| 00:00.09 | jkern | ekekos, do you get the prompt back again? |
| 00:00.15 | ekekos | I thinking in RESET button!! |
| 00:00.25 | maher | sciboy: i don't think its packaged for debian tho.... |
| 00:00.26 | jkern | ekekos, yep |
| 00:00.42 | abrotman | maher: but .. hotplug is the best thing evar! |
| 00:00.42 | jkern | ekekos, or init 1 |
| 00:00.51 | maher | sciboy: does suspend to disc work on your laptop? |
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| 00:00.59 | ekekos | jkern: not, the terminal no responding |
| 00:00.59 | sciboy | maher: http://opensource.idealcorp.com/debian/hotplug-perl_1.1-1_all.deb |
| 00:01.04 | sciboy | maher: Its packaged. =) |
| 00:01.15 | jkern | ekekos, hit the button I guess |
| 00:01.15 | maher | sciboy: have you tried it? |
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| 00:01.24 | sciboy | maher: I haven't tried suspend2disk, or hotplug-perl. |
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| 00:02.01 | sciboy | maher: Installing hotplug-perl now. |
| 00:02.15 | bronaugh | hmm, does anyone know where to get gcc built as an m68k cross-compiler for raw 68k, not m68k-linux? |
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| 00:02.25 | bronaugh | (doing a bit of dev for a ColdFire processor) |
| 00:02.46 | abrotman | bronaugh: #gcc |
| 00:02.53 | bronaugh | yeah, for debian. |
| 00:02.55 | bronaugh | thus #debian. |
| 00:03.14 | abrotman | so what's wrong with m68k-linux ? |
| 00:03.21 | bronaugh | the board isn't running linux. |
| 00:03.26 | abrotman | hurd? |
| 00:03.32 | secher | Heyas all.. How do I export a remote X display to my local system? Or is it more difficult than it seems? |
| 00:03.41 | bronaugh | no, by the time we're done this code will be just dealing with raw HW. |
| 00:03.48 | abrotman | how is that debian? |
| 00:04.09 | abrotman | !sshx |
| 00:04.09 | dpkg | methinks sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 00:04.14 | abrotman | secher: like that ? |
| 00:04.16 | secher | abrotman: is that to me? |
| 00:04.25 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:04.28 | abrotman | i'm not sure if that's what you're asking or not |
| 00:04.32 | bronaugh | abrotman: I'm building on a debian machine. |
| 00:04.34 | bronaugh | that's how it's debian. |
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| 00:04.39 | bronaugh | the cross-compiler's running on debian. |
| 00:04.46 | abrotman | bronaugh: oh .. isn't it just a compiler target? |
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| 00:05.06 | abrotman | bronaugh: i'm still guessing you'd rather be asking #gcc |
| 00:05.48 | bronaugh | abrotman: looking for something precompiled and packaged so that I don't have to bother building it myself. |
| 00:05.51 | bronaugh | guess I'm lazy. |
| 00:06.01 | abrotman | bronaugh: but you want the target to be somehting other than linux ? |
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| 00:06.28 | bronaugh | abrotman: yeah. I have a cross-compiler I dug up for m68k-linux |
| 00:06.43 | bronaugh | hmm.. you know, it'll just generate ELF files... |
| 00:06.57 | bronaugh | and I've already figured out objdump... so maybe it's not a problem. |
| 00:07.01 | bronaugh | I'll ask #gcc that one. |
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| 00:07.19 | secher | that's exactly what I'm asking, and it's Debian 'cause Debian is all I run, so I guess strictly speaking, it's not "Debian", but it may be "Debian" because there may be a meta-package in need to install that's specific to Debian. Justified enough? <grin> |
| 00:08.01 | secher | And thanks much, by the way. |
| 00:08.06 | jkern | secher, it is not clear exactly what you want to do |
| 00:08.09 | abrotman | secher: say what? |
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| 00:08.22 | secher | abrotman nailed it on the head.. |
| 00:08.49 | secher | abrotman: yo uasked me how my ? was Debian, and I explained it to you. |
| 00:09.05 | abrotman | secher: not you .. bronaugh |
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| 00:09.56 | secher | Oh.. I posted "Was that to me?" and you replied "Yes"... mass confusion reigned in the head of the blonde left handed pollack.... sheesh. |
| 00:10.13 | jkern | secher, happens all the time eh |
| 00:10.33 | abrotman | especially when the lazy person doesn't direct the text at someone :) |
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| 00:11.31 | secher | Ok, anyway, my question was answered succinctly and with a good deal of insight on the part of the answerer. Thanks Gents. |
| 00:11.42 | abrotman | secher: now . back to jersey with you! |
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| 00:12.37 | abrotman | iirc .. secher is from jersey .. some big wifi project |
| 00:12.38 | jkern | secher, is a pollack not a fish? |
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| 00:13.06 | tvn | how do I setup so that my system requires new user to change password upon first login ? |
| 00:13.21 | abrotman | for every newly created user ? |
| 00:13.26 | secher | JJersey??? Nay NAY, mention not that state of nightmare and stench. I was born and bred in Pennsie, thanks. I venture into Jersey only when work demands, and then only for the time required. |
| 00:13.31 | tvn | abrotman: yes |
| 00:13.37 | boloy | hello |
| 00:13.38 | secher | abrotnman ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:13.39 | abrotman | secher: wasn't you with the wifi house? |
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| 00:14.03 | secher | abrotman: wifi house? |
| 00:14.05 | abrotman | tvn: man passwd .. -e |
| 00:14.17 | abrotman | secher: dunno .. i thought it was you .. perhaps not .. |
| 00:14.19 | secher | abrotman: Dude, I live around 5 minutes from you. |
| 00:14.21 | abrotman | :phillysmite secher |
| 00:14.35 | secher | RoFo. |
| 00:14.36 | abrotman | secher: wait .. you're the one from phoenixville ? |
| 00:14.40 | abrotman | !phillysmite secher |
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| 00:15.20 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: Are you on? |
| 00:15.25 | secher | abrotman: lemme guess, youer a graddiate from Springfuerd Hi, rite? |
| 00:15.43 | abrotman | tarzeau: run! |
| 00:15.43 | abrotman | secher: not me .. i wasn't born around here |
| 00:15.44 | RvGaTe | soo, what you guys up to? |
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| 00:15.50 | abrotman | RvGaTe: are you drunk again? |
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| 00:15.56 | RvGaTe | no, im sober now |
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| 00:15.59 | abrotman | ok .. just checking |
| 00:16.04 | RvGaTe | but i did have a hell good time back then :P |
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| 00:16.40 | RvGaTe | ehmm |
| 00:16.41 | RvGaTe | sure |
| 00:16.42 | RvGaTe | :P |
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| 00:16.49 | CasaNova_ | abrptman: nothign to fear here, I only wanted to inquire about linuks.mine.nu. I haven't been here is a while and wondered where it went ( I saw links still present but main site gone :-( |
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| 00:16.59 | abrotman | !faq |
| 00:16.59 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 00:17.12 | bronaugh | link damn you... link. |
| 00:17.20 | secher | Hey, my main malady!! We need to create a charity to pay for personal assistants to follow us around remindding us of things we need to remember. |
| 00:17.30 | secher | Kk.. nuff OT from me.. |
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| 00:17.44 | abrotman | !link bronaugh |
| 00:17.49 | CasaNova_ | abrotman: Right - I know.. just wondered what happened to main site was all... |
| 00:17.50 | abrotman | oh well .. worth a shot |
| 00:17.57 | abrotman | CasaNova_: which main site? |
| 00:18.08 | CasaNova_ | abrotman: linuks.mine.nu |
| 00:18.39 | abrotman | hehe ... |
| 00:18.50 | abrotman | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/tarzeau |
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| 00:19.05 | CasaNova_ | abrotman: Once upon a tiem full of coloful icons and banners of debian openstep and other fantastic things now just " nothing here, move along" ? |
| 00:19.11 | CasaNova_ | OOOh |
| 00:19.36 | CasaNova_ | Nice! |
| 00:20.10 | CasaNova_ | Very tarzan the ape man... |
| 00:20.13 | abrotman | CasaNova_: /debian/ ? |
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| 00:20.14 | CasaNova_ | :-) |
| 00:20.47 | abrotman | tarzeau: i think someone ate your webserver and crapped out all the files in a bad random order |
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| 00:21.21 | CasaNova_ | I was only curious, I have been hitting that site for years (mostly for the debian as workstation, but more recently to read and reread the faq) |
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| 00:21.41 | abrotman | yeah .. no idea .. come back tomorrow when he's awake .. |
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| 00:21.59 | CasaNova_ | abrotman: Ha ok - |
| 00:22.09 | abrotman | CasaNova_: he's uhm .. hours ahead of EST |
| 00:22.27 | billy_dangle | how do i create a directory in debian? |
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| 00:22.44 | maher | billy_dangle: mkdir |
| 00:22.47 | CasaNova_ | Yeah I always forget the international timeline. Darn timelien - If we were back in EST I'd be an hour closer :-) ( or is it an hour later ?) |
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| 00:23.02 | abrotman | CasaNova_: maybe you should try swatch time |
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| 00:23.42 | CasaNova_ | billy_dangle : No offense intended but have you done one Debian tutorial or how to or general Linux tutorial? |
| 00:23.56 | billy_dangle | CasaNova_ no |
| 00:23.57 | CasaNova_ | I ask cuz I have a few web sites I coudl forward you, would walk you right through |
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| 00:23.58 | RvGaTe | lalalaaaa :D i love Sunshine Reggea |
| 00:24.24 | tvn | what do I do to disallow short or easy password when the users wants to change their pw's ? |
| 00:24.34 | CasaNova_ | the old giva a man a fish VS teaching to fish etc etc |
| 00:24.40 | billy_dangle | ok i have another question. im coming over to linux from windows development and im quite new to it. i was wondering if linux supported the pointer data type. |
| 00:24.45 | abrotman | !fundamentals |
| 00:24.45 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
| 00:24.54 | abrotman | billy_dangle: in which language? |
| 00:24.56 | henke | tvn, look into pam and cracklib I think. |
| 00:25.21 | billy_dangle | abrotman D |
| 00:25.25 | abrotman | D? |
| 00:25.28 | RvGaTe | lol |
| 00:25.28 | billy_dangle | yeah |
| 00:25.29 | abrotman | D is a language? |
| 00:25.29 | henke | tvn, I think there is a mention in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 00:25.33 | billy_dangle | yeah there is a D language |
| 00:25.34 | abrotman | !d |
| 00:25.35 | dpkg | it has been said that d is uninterruptible sleep (usually IO), or a letter of the alphabet, or not a substitute for "the". |
| 00:25.35 | maher | abrotman: one better than C |
| 00:25.37 | abrotman | i know there is a D |
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| 00:25.46 | billy_dangle | linux doesnt support D? |
| 00:25.46 | abrotman | but i didn't know anyone actually programmed in D :) |
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| 00:26.21 | RvGaTe | D is a reversed filled C |
| 00:26.24 | RvGaTe | thats it |
| 00:26.28 | abrotman | billy_dangle: http://home.earthlink.net/~dvdfrdmn/d/ |
| 00:26.28 | RvGaTe | i swear |
| 00:26.36 | Shadowcat | !D |
| 00:26.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, d is uninterruptible sleep (usually IO), or a letter of the alphabet, or not a substitute for "the". |
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| 00:26.45 | Shadowcat | hmmm |
| 00:26.47 | Shadowcat | !the |
| 00:26.47 | dpkg | i guess the is full of rotten mash potatoes |
| 00:26.53 | Shadowcat | uhh |
| 00:26.57 | RvGaTe | wtf |
| 00:26.58 | RvGaTe | !wtf |
| 00:27.02 | Shadowcat | !factinfo the |
| 00:27.02 | dpkg | the -- it has been requested 7 times, last by Shadowcat, 15s ago. |
| 00:27.15 | billy_dangle | ok forget that question for now then |
| 00:27.19 | tvn | henke: thanks , I'll check it out , |
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| 00:27.23 | billy_dangle | how do i make a window |
| 00:27.23 | bronaugh | oh, another software question. |
| 00:27.27 | abrotman | billy_dangle: i would imagine it's in debian .. but i have no idea what the package would be called |
| 00:27.45 | bronaugh | is there a generic (doesn't have to be complex) converter from x86 (or better yet, m68k) asm to C code? |
| 00:27.50 | bronaugh | doesn't have to work too well either |
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| 00:28.26 | abrotman | billy_dangle: in what? |
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| 00:28.31 | billy_dangle | C++ |
| 00:28.34 | abrotman | billy_dangle: there is #d that might be able to answer some stuff |
| 00:28.40 | abrotman | billy_dangle: depends on the toolkit |
| 00:29.47 | RvGaTe | abrotman: im bored.. (again), lets play a game ! :D |
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| 00:30.12 | abrotman | RvGaTe: #trvia |
| 00:30.13 | abrotman | err |
| 00:30.15 | abrotman | #trivia |
| 00:30.26 | RvGaTe | no trivia, bah :) old fashioned |
| 00:30.32 | abrotman | bubnbros! |
| 00:30.43 | RvGaTe | wth is that ? |
| 00:31.11 | RvGaTe | nvm |
| 00:31.16 | RvGaTe | saw it on google |
| 00:31.32 | abrotman | !bubnbros |
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| 00:31.38 | abrotman | it's there somewhere |
| 00:31.46 | RvGaTe | !bubbros |
| 00:31.57 | RvGaTe | !bub&bros |
| 00:32.02 | RvGaTe | ? |
| 00:32.09 | RvGaTe | no help on that? hehe |
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| 00:32.28 | abrotman | !listkeys bub |
| 00:32.29 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'bub' by key (7): CMD: bubnbrossmite (.*?) ;; bub-n-bros ;; bubblefishymon ;; frozen-bubble ;; bubbolo ;; bubblebobble ;; bubblebabble. |
| 00:32.35 | abrotman | !bub-n-bros |
| 00:32.35 | dpkg | http://bub-n-bros.sf.net - #bub-n-bros - there is no debian package yet. get the tarball on sf.net, apt-get install python-gtk2 and run BubBob.py |
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| 00:32.56 | RvGaTe | hmm |
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| 00:33.07 | RvGaTe | im afraid i cant install that abrotman :( |
| 00:33.18 | abrotman | why not ? |
| 00:33.21 | RvGaTe | winxp |
| 00:33.23 | RvGaTe | :S |
| 00:33.31 | abrotman | oh .. |
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| 00:33.36 | abrotman | enigma! |
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| 00:33.45 | RvGaTe | got that already, lol |
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| 00:33.55 | abrotman | did i tell you to get it before ? |
| 00:34.00 | RvGaTe | yup, lol |
| 00:34.03 | abrotman | oh |
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| 00:34.23 | abrotman | RvGaTe: welll .. go get in debian |
| 00:34.32 | h3xis | can anyone recommend me a good cd ripper that doesn't use gnome/kde libraries? |
| 00:34.36 | RvGaTe | cant, i only use debian for servers |
| 00:34.42 | RvGaTe | so no gui |
| 00:34.45 | RvGaTe | only ssh |
| 00:35.07 | green_earz | h3xis: grip |
| 00:35.19 | h3xis | green_earz, does it have a gui? |
| 00:35.24 | abrotman | green_earz: does NOT |
| 00:35.26 | abrotman | grip is GTK |
| 00:35.29 | abrotman | if not gnome |
| 00:35.37 | h3xis | ok, is ripperx any good? |
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| 00:36.18 | _quik_ | hey folks |
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| 00:36.34 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 00:36.34 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian> |
| 00:36.55 | _quik_ | I tried for a few hours to install debian yesterday, apt-get was working, then it decided to stop... I threw in ubuntu and it just goes |
| 00:37.17 | _quik_ | frustrating |
| 00:37.39 | maher | h3xis: abcde |
| 00:37.53 | h3xis | alright, thanks |
| 00:38.18 | abrotman | _quik_: do you want help installing debian .. or you're just venting? |
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| 00:38.29 | RvGaTe | i think he's venting |
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| 00:38.47 | _quik_ | I think I'm venting too |
| 00:38.56 | RvGaTe | well, let it all out |
| 00:39.05 | RvGaTe | you can cry on all our shoulders |
| 00:39.09 | host` | alright, last time I post this |
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| 00:39.11 | host` | anyone know what this error means? http://pastebin.com/365552 |
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| 00:39.33 | BACbKA | howdy |
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| 00:39.55 | RvGaTe | yo |
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| 00:40.02 | _quik_ | ubuntu is just a build or debian, more or less, isn'tit? |
| 00:40.09 | host` | yes |
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| 00:40.18 | host` | it's debian pretty much |
| 00:40.34 | abrotman | _quik_: but it's supported in #ubuntu .. not here |
| 00:40.41 | host` | but you'll want to go with ubuntu repos if I'm not mistaken |
| 00:40.44 | abrotman | host`: gcc4? |
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| 00:41.06 | turing | hey all, has anyone seen a problem with tinydns where it refuses to believe it has authority to serve requests? |
| 00:41.09 | abrotman | turing: the cows are at bay! |
| 00:41.16 | abrotman | oh .. he's not a turing test :) |
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| 00:41.31 | HAMM3R | All files I upload using vsftpd are given a chmod of 600. (by vsftpd I assume). Of course 600 is not right for web files. Any ideas on why and how to fix this? |
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| 00:41.39 | turing | im sorry please explain "bay" and "cows" |
| 00:41.40 | BACbKA | I'm doing a dist upgrade of a woody system to sarge. It wants to remove group and user majordom (gid 60 uid 15) and make gid games go 61->60. However, I do have majordomo running here, and it lives in ~majordom. What is the best thing to do? I don't disagree with the other changes it proposes... |
| 00:41.45 | host` | abrotman: what? gcc4? |
| 00:41.46 | abrotman | HAMM3R: change the umask |
| 00:41.52 | HAMM3R | Ok |
| 00:41.59 | abrotman | host`: gcc --version |
| 00:42.01 | turing | :P |
| 00:42.18 | host` | abrotman: what does that mean? |
| 00:42.25 | host` | is that a command? |
| 00:42.32 | abrotman | host`: yes |
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| 00:42.54 | host` | what does it do? |
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| 00:43.01 | abrotman | host`: says which version of gcc you're using |
| 00:43.19 | HAMM3R | (abrotman): 077 or 022 as the umask? Currently that line in the config file is commented. |
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| 00:43.43 | abrotman | you probably want .. 022 .. i think .. that would give it 755 |
| 00:43.51 | HAMM3R | great, thanks |
| 00:43.52 | host` | abrotman: will you knowing that really help me, that means I have to restart |
| 00:44.00 | EdgEy | how can i get an image of a recent kernel? i need to upgrade to 2.6.10 or more, but i can't use apt-get cause it doesn't have internet access |
| 00:44.11 | host` | freak it |
| 00:44.16 | abrotman | host`: just that gcc4 may not be able to correctly compile the ndis stuff .. |
| 00:44.18 | host` | I have no other answers at this time |
| 00:44.21 | EdgEy | tried searching the packages, all i can find are transition packages and i doubt a 7.1kb file is what i need |
| 00:44.26 | host` | alright, thanks |
| 00:44.28 | host` | bbl |
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| 00:44.37 | abrotman | host`: and if that's the case .. you may want to actually use the debian package for ndis |
| 00:44.41 | kapil_away | BACbKA: This removal of majordom may be temporary. Ask it to keep your current file and compare it with /etc/{group,passwd}.dpkg-dist later. |
| 00:44.42 | abrotman | bah .. why do people do that! |
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| 00:44.52 | abrotman | EdgEy: sarge? |
| 00:44.57 | EdgEy | abrotman yes |
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| 00:45.09 | BACbKA | kapil_away: it won't actually touch ~majordom, will it? just the /etc/passwd |
| 00:45.19 | EdgEy | eciadsl is having problems running on 2.6.8, and their homepage says 2.6.10+ should be ok, heh |
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| 00:45.35 | alex323 | hey all |
| 00:45.36 | abrotman | EdgEy: the best answer i can say is to try a kernel from etch |
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| 00:46.01 | EdgEy | etch? |
| 00:46.30 | abrotman | EdgEy: which CPU ? |
| 00:46.33 | kapil | BACbKA: Is this during the installation of base-passwd? In any case the install does not remove files from /home. |
| 00:46.40 | EdgEy | athlon 2500+ (guessing K7?) |
| 00:46.48 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Now now. Be nice. |
| 00:46.54 | BACbKA | kapil: yeah, base-passwd |
| 00:47.13 | abrotman | !info initrd-tools sarge |
| 00:47.16 | dpkg | initrd-tools: (tools to create initrd image for prepackaged Linux kernel), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.81.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 00:47.28 | HAMM3R | (abrotman): A umask of 022 is giving the files 644 rather than 755. Any ideas? |
| 00:47.30 | abrotman | EdgEy: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7_2.6.12-6_i386.deb .. try that |
| 00:47.35 | BACbKA | kapil: 10x |
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| 00:47.52 | Guerin | !10x |
| 00:47.52 | dpkg | well, 10x is TEN times? Why not just do it once, properly? |
| 00:47.52 | EdgEy | ! thanks... how did you find that, lol |
| 00:47.57 | abrotman | EdgEy: packages.debian.org |
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| 00:48.25 | _quik_ | I'm in ubuntu now, is it possible to download a net-install for debian and get it running? |
| 00:48.28 | abrotman | HAMM3R: not that i can think of .. i've not used vsftpd |
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| 00:48.35 | abrotman | !d-i _quik_ |
| 00:48.36 | dpkg | _quik_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:48.37 | EdgEy | i searched for "kernel" and looked through every page, best i found was 2.6.11 for PPC and transition images for k7/386 |
| 00:48.46 | EdgEy | it's probably me being a retard and not searching properly |
| 00:48.50 | maher | _quik: yes - you can also run debootstrap on ubuntu |
| 00:49.15 | HAMM3R | Thanks for your help. Also, is 644 sufficiant enough for a file on a webserver? It needs to be able to be edited only by the owner, and viewable by everyone, Will 644 work? |
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| 00:49.44 | EdgEy | oh, it might be because it's linux-image and not kernel-image |
| 00:49.44 | kapil | _quik_: If you already have a version of GNU/Linux installed *and* have disk-space *and* have a reasonable network connection, then try debootstrap. |
| 00:49.46 | abrotman | HAMM3R: it might be .. it also might depend on the file type |
| 00:49.56 | HAMM3R | Ok |
| 00:49.56 | BACbKA | HAMM3R: as long as the server has enough permissions to transcend all the directories down to the file |
| 00:50.06 | Guerin | HAMM3R: man 2 umask |
| 00:50.13 | abrotman | it's his ftped |
| 00:50.14 | abrotman | bah |
| 00:50.17 | BACbKA | HAMM3R and man chmod |
| 00:50.18 | EdgEy | thanks abrotman, heh gonna try now |
| 00:50.30 | HAMM3R | alright, will do. thanks |
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| 00:53.42 | sciboy | ... |
| 00:53.46 | zouhair | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.54 | Guerin | omglolz |
| 00:54.01 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:54.04 | kapil | me gives zouhair a / |
| 00:54.04 | RvGaTe | ... |
| 00:54.08 | sciboy | hotplug-perl isn't playing nice with the fact my wifi card requires firmware to be loaded. |
| 00:54.08 | Guerin | zouhair: change your password before someone else does |
| 00:54.12 | abrotman | kapil: no .. take his ' ' |
| 00:54.24 | sciboy | Although, besides that, its a BUTTLOAD FASTER. |
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| 00:54.31 | maher | sciboy: fix it and send a patch in so i can use it |
| 00:54.34 | abrotman | sciboy: like .. exlax buttload ? |
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| 00:54.56 | Guerin | !convert buttload to kilograms |
| 00:54.58 | dpkg | buttload cannot be converted to kilograms: Unknown unit 'buttload' |
| 00:55.05 | Guerin | stupid bot |
| 00:55.11 | Guerin | get with the times already |
| 00:55.19 | RvGaTe | !convert 1 euro to pounds |
| 00:55.20 | dpkg | 1 euro cannot be converted to pounds: conformability error |
| 00:55.23 | _quik_ | is there much difference between the business card installer and the regular? |
| 00:55.32 | _quik_ | just means apt-get will download more as required, right? |
| 00:55.37 | kapil | Guerin: try "convert botload to kgs" |
| 00:55.46 | RvGaTe | !convert euro to pounds |
| 00:55.47 | zouhair | :) |
| 00:55.47 | dpkg | euro cannot be converted to pounds: conformability error |
| 00:55.49 | abrotman | Guerin: metric tonnes! |
| 00:55.56 | Guerin | _quik_: yeah. the bizcard has the minimum needed to install, the netinstall has all of base; that being, the minimum needed to have a functional system. |
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| 00:56.17 | _quik_ | hopefully its decent |
| 00:56.32 | sciboy | Boot time went from 1:22 to 57 thanks to hotplug-perl. |
| 00:56.43 | sciboy | =D |
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| 00:57.00 | Guerin | sciboy: as opposed to regular hotplug? |
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| 00:57.09 | sciboy | Guerin: Yup. |
| 00:57.16 | RvGaTe | anyone has Steam togetter with HL1? :) |
| 00:57.16 | Guerin | funky. |
| 00:57.22 | kapil | sciboy: and what did you do for those extra 25 seconds? |
| 00:57.32 | sciboy | I replaced hotplug with hotplug-perl |
| 00:57.33 | Guerin | RvGaTe: some people in #proprietarysoftware probably do |
| 00:57.47 | kapil | s/for/with/ |
| 00:58.00 | sciboy | But like i said, it doesn't seem to want to load my wifi cards firmware. =/ |
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| 00:58.20 | sciboy | Seems i'll have to stick with regular hotplug anyway. |
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| 00:58.42 | host` | gcc4 |
| 00:59.09 | abrotman | host`: yeah .. i don't run sid .. i'm not sure that can be compiled with gcc4 |
| 00:59.22 | host` | I've compiled it before though |
| 00:59.25 | abrotman | host`: see if you can find another person here with sid and ask them to try i guess |
| 00:59.30 | abrotman | or make your compiler gcc3 |
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| 00:59.37 | host` | but, I did have it upgraded to echt |
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| 00:59.52 | host` | to echt from sarge |
| 01:00.08 | host` | would that change it? |
| 01:00.43 | abrotman | you can't go from etch to sarge |
| 01:00.59 | host` | yes you can |
| 01:01.02 | abrotman | no you can't |
| 01:01.12 | abrotman | sarge=stable,etch=testing,sid=unstable |
| 01:01.19 | host` | sid |
| 01:01.24 | host` | unstable |
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| 01:01.35 | host` | I was thinking echt was unstable |
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| 01:01.57 | host` | it was upgraded from stable to unstable |
| 01:01.59 | kapil | host`: sp? echt = etch |
| 01:02.04 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:02.07 | turing | hey all, has anyone seen a problem with tinydns where it refuses to believe it has authority to serve requests? |
| 01:02.12 | host` | etch |
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| 01:02.50 | host` | I'm pretty new to the debian terminology |
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| 01:03.30 | kapil | 's ok. an etch by any other name would be as sweet... |
| 01:03.59 | host` | but not as sweet as my love for you dear |
| 01:04.19 | host` | if you can give advice |
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| 01:05.05 | robertobrandao | turma como qual o comando que utilizo para poder ver o ip da placa de rede e que me mostre o dns e gatway |
| 01:05.05 | yel | hi everyone |
| 01:05.16 | abrotman | !es |
| 01:05.16 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:05.24 | abrotman | err ... |
| 01:05.27 | abrotman | !br |
| 01:05.27 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:06.00 | abrotman | host`: are you using the debian package of the software? |
| 01:06.18 | host` | abrotman: yes |
| 01:06.30 | abrotman | host`: cat /proc/version |
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| 01:06.44 | host` | abrotman: from the unstable listing on debian.org |
| 01:06.52 | abrotman | host`: from your debian box :) |
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| 01:07.01 | host` | this is my debian box |
| 01:07.05 | host` | what does that do? |
| 01:07.15 | abrotman | shows me which versino of gcc your kernel was compiled with |
| 01:07.33 | host` | ahh |
| 01:07.53 | Guerin | versino! is that like centrino? |
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| 01:07.58 | abrotman | yes |
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| 01:08.22 | host` | thenn I'll have to restart |
| 01:08.27 | host` | bbl |
| 01:08.34 | kapil | i think its not the centrino bit of the versino that is being looked for here |
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| 01:09.16 | yel | is there some one of you guys using poweredge 2500 ? |
| 01:09.49 | abrotman | why? |
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| 01:09.57 | scarynetworkguy | !tell yel about ask. |
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| 01:10.24 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Oh wait was that rude? |
| 01:10.31 | abrotman | yeah .. |
| 01:10.50 | yel | abrotman i just screwd my .config and was wondering if someone can provide me a running one ? |
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| 01:11.16 | scarynetworkguy | yel: What .config? |
| 01:11.27 | yel | kernel |
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| 01:12.22 | meff | i have hal/dbus/udev installed.. hwo do i get this combo to automount inserted cd/dvd's ? |
| 01:12.42 | scarynetworkguy | yel: Why not just pull the one for whatever kernel you can boot with from /boot? |
| 01:12.51 | sebo | Any ideas Why this doesn't work?? It should coment out each line starting with 'password' before first one which starts with 'title' $ awk 'BEGIN{fnd=0};{if($0 ~ "^[[:space:]]*title")fnd=1;if(fnd==0 && $0 ~ "^[[:space:]]*password"){print "#",gsub("^[[:space:]]*","",$0)}else print $0}' |
| 01:12.54 | Guerin | yel: debian kernel-source packages come with a functional config, and there are always some in /boot/config-* |
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| 01:13.05 | Guerin | but the real question is |
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| 01:13.10 | Guerin | !wac yel |
| 01:13.14 | Guerin | !wayc yel |
| 01:13.14 | dpkg | yel: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 01:13.29 | abrotman | sebo: #bash |
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| 01:14.06 | abrotman | sciboy: why? |
| 01:14.08 | sciboy | Gonnah miss these boot times. =/ |
| 01:14.14 | abrotman | oh ffs .. |
| 01:14.27 | yel | dpkg its my first debian box and i want to compile it im not familiar with debian at all |
| 01:14.27 | Guerin | sciboy: boot your computer less frequently |
| 01:14.43 | Guerin | yel: don't compile your own kernel. use a debian kernel. |
| 01:14.53 | abrotman | !parallel boot |
| 01:14.53 | dpkg | from memory, parallel boot is http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-boot.html?ca=dnt-437 |
| 01:14.54 | sciboy | Guerin: I got to shut it down when i can, it runs on batteries. =P |
| 01:14.56 | abrotman | sciboy: ^^ |
| 01:15.08 | maher | sciboy: why don't you just fix hotplug perl? |
| 01:15.16 | Guerin | yel: unless you can identify something specific you need which isn't supported in debian kernels |
| 01:15.23 | sciboy | maher: I wouldn't have a clue how. =P |
| 01:15.52 | scarynetworkguy | !ricer |
| 01:15.52 | dpkg | methinks ricer is at gentoo |
| 01:16.01 | abrotman | heh |
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| 01:16.05 | sciboy | maher: I just think it lacks firmware loading support. |
| 01:16.25 | sciboy | abrotman: Thanks, giving it a read now. =) |
| 01:16.45 | maher | sciboy: well i will try it on my laptop at some point - maybe i'll try to fix it... |
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| 01:17.14 | yel | Guerin to be honest i dont know whats debian's kernel is supporting just like i told dpkg im new to debian |
| 01:17.16 | sciboy | maher: More importantly, i should probably send an email to the developer about it. =P |
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| 01:18.02 | computerdude | Does anyone know how to get the packages? It's like something apt-get |
| 01:18.18 | CrocoJet | anyone use xchat here ? |
| 01:18.25 | maher | CrocoJet: me! |
| 01:18.41 | CrocoJet | how do I set to receive many files same time ? |
| 01:18.44 | Guerin | yel: what branch of debian are you using? |
| 01:18.50 | CrocoJet | nowadays only work 1..1 |
| 01:18.50 | sciboy | computerdude, silly newbie, 'apt-get install *name*' |
| 01:18.51 | maher | CrocoJet: no idea! |
| 01:18.55 | Guerin | CrocoJet: #xchat |
| 01:18.59 | CrocoJet | oh ok |
| 01:19.02 | CrocoJet | ok |
| 01:19.02 | CrocoJet | ]thanks |
| 01:19.04 | computerdude | Oh, ok yes I'm a newbie |
| 01:19.08 | computerdude | Thanks |
| 01:19.20 | yel | Guerin sorry what do you mean with branch ? |
| 01:19.21 | sciboy | computerdude, Thats for apt, if you manually downloaded something, its 'dpkg -i' |
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| 01:19.30 | Guerin | yel: stable, testing, unstable ...? |
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| 01:20.13 | yel | ahh i think im using a stable one |
| 01:20.28 | Guerin | yel: what does uname -r; say? |
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| 01:20.54 | meff | can someone clue me in on automounting media on sid with hal/dbus/udev? i have those installed.. |
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| 01:21.18 | maher | meff: do you have gnome-vfs |
| 01:21.24 | yel | Guerin Linux debianbox 2.6.8-2-686-smp #1 SMP Thu May 19 17:27:55 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:21.31 | meff | i dont want a gui to do it maher .. |
| 01:21.56 | malicia | Hey there Guys. I have a Small problem here. i can't compile my kernel. ( it's 2.4.27) When I do : make bzImage : it shows me some error msg's( like C lang.. stuff) and quits. What could it be? |
| 01:22.02 | Guerin | yel: is there a specific reason why you think you need a new kernel? That's the newest and shiniest in stable. |
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| 01:22.06 | meff | i've read ivman does it in gentoo.. ist here nothing like that in debian? |
| 01:22.11 | Guerin | !wayc malicia |
| 01:22.12 | dpkg | malicia: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
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| 01:23.04 | malicia | Well... Uhm I tried that too.. But I want to do OpenMosix so I need a "Clean Kernel". |
| 01:23.25 | scarynetworkguy | malicia: Or at least apt-get install kernel-packge and then read the docs. |
| 01:23.26 | Guerin | malicia: wtf does THAT mean? |
| 01:23.36 | scarynetworkguy | malicia: What does "Clean Kernel" mean? |
| 01:24.12 | malicia | I need to add OpenMosix patch so it will not work with a distro patched kernel.... |
| 01:24.13 | scarynetworkguy | malicia: But if you are going to compile at least do it The Debian Way. |
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| 01:24.36 | malicia | I tried :D But nope... |
| 01:24.44 | Guerin | malicia: ok. install kernel-package, build-essential, libncurses5-dev |
| 01:24.50 | Guerin | !tell malicia about kp mantra |
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| 01:25.16 | Guerin | malicia: if you still get local issues, dpkg-reconfigure locales and make sure yours are generated and set correctly |
| 01:25.52 | malicia | Allright then.. |
| 01:26.37 | malicia | (actually I was trying this the whole day!) |
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| 01:28.03 | host` | abrotman: sorry it took so long |
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| 01:28.12 | abrotman | you got lost eh ? |
| 01:28.28 | host` | I tried a few different things while I was on it |
| 01:28.47 | host` | Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 |
| 01:28.56 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: DO I LOOK LIKE A ROADMAP? |
| 01:29.29 | Guerin | nothing that uses libavcodec* will play anything |
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| 01:29.40 | scarynetworkguy | !lose Guerin. |
| 01:29.41 | dpkg | Guerin.: You Lose. |
| 01:29.44 | Guerin | but libavcodec* is not the problem - it's some other lib which talks to it |
| 01:29.49 | meff | should i use autofs in debian, or some kinda udev/hal setup? |
| 01:29.53 | Guerin | naw, i've sorted out worse than this |
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| 01:30.31 | abrotman | host`: afaik .. you're going to have to compile using gcc3 |
| 01:30.50 | host` | afaik? |
| 01:31.07 | abrotman | !afaik |
| 01:31.07 | dpkg | from memory, afaik is some kind of acronym...but nobody knows what it means, As Far As I Know. ask me about 'imnkatf'. |
| 01:31.45 | Guerin | !imnkatf |
| 01:31.45 | dpkg | hmm... imnkatf is I May Not Know All That Far |
| 01:31.53 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:31.54 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 01:31.59 | host` | nice |
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| 01:32.53 | yel | is there somthing like hwclock on debian ? |
| 01:33.12 | sussudio | ... |
| 01:33.15 | host` | it's funny though |
| 01:33.25 | sussudio | yel: yes, it's called hwclock |
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| 01:33.57 | yel | sussudio in wich packages ?? |
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| 01:34.06 | Guerin | !find bin/hwclock |
| 01:34.15 | Guerin | it's in base |
| 01:34.15 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/hwclock' (1): (/sbin/hwclock) in base/util-linux. |
| 01:34.19 | Guerin | you have it already |
| 01:34.28 | keith | Woody. How can I take the 'space' out of a MS file as in xxx 123.jpg so my woody machine can read and write it? |
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| 01:34.57 | Guerin | keith: woody machines can read and write files with spaces in the names |
| 01:35.03 | danieldg | keith: put the filename in quotes |
| 01:35.37 | doofusdog | hi, trying to do a cd install without internet access, gets to apt configuration and says it has commented the security, on ok it stops responding and just scrolls with no shell |
| 01:35.58 | doofusdog | can still login on ohter ttys |
| 01:36.05 | Guerin | doofusdog: which installer? |
| 01:36.20 | host` | "I may not know all that far" |
| 01:36.24 | paolob | Hi guys! How can I know whether a messagge sent with mail has gnone? Is there a way to know if it is still on my pc? than you! |
| 01:36.27 | doofusdog | first cd from a 12 or so cd set |
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| 01:36.58 | doofusdog | its sarge |
| 01:37.05 | host` | I have to set that as my quit message |
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| 01:37.29 | doofusdog | but a slightly old unstable one |
| 01:37.42 | Guerin | doofusdog: use the official installer. |
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| 01:38.08 | Lilldude | laible |
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| 01:38.22 | Lilldude | liable |
| 01:38.38 | Lilldude | how do i find wireless box |
| 01:40.10 | host` | abrotman: is afaik a command? |
| 01:40.10 | sciboy | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/199 <- Does this technique apply anymore? |
| 01:40.13 | abrotman | no |
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| 01:40.46 | malicia | Guerin: I tried to do what you told me to. But it didn't work either.. |
| 01:40.51 | abrotman | sciboy: it could |
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| 01:40.58 | Guerin | !didn't work |
| 01:40.58 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 01:41.08 | abrotman | sciboy: it's pretty basic .. just instead of being sequential .. starts your stuff in the background |
| 01:41.24 | Guerin | yay, new libc6 |
| 01:41.41 | Guerin | it must be a while since i updated sid on these boxen |
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| 01:41.45 | sciboy | abrotman: I know, but my /etc/init.d/rc doesn't have that line anymore. =P |
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| 01:42.36 | abrotman | sciboy: not all the way at the bottom? |
| 01:43.24 | malicia | Guerin: about the kernel compilation I did what you told me to do ( dpkg-reconf.. loacles) and then I tried with the "make-kpkg" command and non worked just the same msg's about headers and such.. |
| 01:43.44 | sciboy | abrotman: Closest thing i can find is 'startup $ACTION $SCRIPTS' |
| 01:44.03 | abrotman | sciboy: not sarge i guess huh |
| 01:44.16 | sciboy | abrotman: SID. ;) |
| 01:44.48 | abrotman | sciboy: i suppose you could try it |
| 01:45.05 | Guerin | malicia: what are your locales set to? And what is the specific output? (put it on paster, if you like) |
| 01:45.21 | malicia | paster? |
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| 01:45.28 | Guerin | !paster |
| 01:45.28 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 01:45.33 | sciboy | abrotman: I'm just trying to find which line i should apply it to and how. You think the above line i mentioned, is it? |
| 01:45.39 | malicia | I see. |
| 01:46.19 | abrotman | sciboy: paste the whole file in a pastebin |
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| 01:47.02 | sciboy | abrotman: That would be a little difficult considering the wifi card in my laptop is lacking the firmware to connect to my network. ;) |
| 01:47.27 | abrotman | sciboy: oh .. ok |
| 01:47.38 | abrotman | sciboy: do you have a case statement near the end ? |
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| 01:49.21 | sciboy | abrotman: Closest thing i could find was a case statement defining $ACTION |
| 01:49.29 | sciboy | abrotman: Being stop and start. =P |
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| 01:49.51 | abrotman | sciboy: there's nothign like |
| 01:49.52 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.52 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.58 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:50.10 | sciboy | abrotman: Thats what i'm talking about. |
| 01:50.41 | abrotman | sciboy: see the * one ? .. thta's for run levels 1-5 .. try putting it after the $SCRIPTS .. that's all i can say to try |
| 01:50.51 | abrotman | sciboy: i have no sid boxen |
| 01:50.56 | abrotman | or etch for that matter |
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| 01:52.16 | sciboy | abrotman: Done, now to hope that init doesn't die on me. =P |
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| 01:53.07 | abrotman | sciboy: or what? |
| 01:53.41 | malicia | Guerin : Mypasted == http://channels.debian.net/paste/726 |
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| 01:53.50 | sciboy | abrotman: It made a mess of the output. |
| 01:53.56 | dos000 | is there a standard way to make 2 machines work in failover mode ? so the ip is taken over by the backup server ? |
| 01:54.07 | abrotman | sciboy: yes . it will .. |
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| 01:55.12 | sciboy | abrotman: No effect on startup time... Undoing. |
| 01:55.26 | abrotman | sciboy: yeah .. i think the IBM method is better :) |
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| 01:56.02 | Guerin | malicia: 1) do you need all those locales? 2) are you tring to build with gcc4? |
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| 01:57.20 | Lilldude | so what can i do router lost wireless box |
| 01:57.30 | Guerin | malicia: there's no locale error from the make-kpkg output - it just looks to me like you're trying to build old code with a new gcc. |
| 01:58.03 | sciboy | abrotman: Sucks that now i have to switch back to normal hotplug and watch 22 seconds get added onto the startup time. XD |
| 01:58.06 | Guerin | malicia: i presume you're builgin such an ancient kernel as 2.4.26 because that's what the openmosix patch is built for , but I suggest you try .31 or something newer. |
| 01:58.15 | RvGaTe | abrotman: can i ask what you are doing right now?... |
| 01:58.16 | sciboy | abrotman: Brb, grabbing a flashdrive to grab the package. |
| 01:58.41 | malicia | Guerin: Yep! that's right and I know those a bit more... |
| 01:58.53 | abrotman | RvGaTe: watching tv .. why? |
| 01:59.01 | abrotman | sciboy: try the IBM thing |
| 01:59.26 | dannyp | oh man getting spyware is fun |
| 01:59.26 | RvGaTe | abrotman: somehow you are always in here supporting people... i mean, dont you have anything else to do? :P |
| 01:59.27 | sciboy | abrotman: I'm not too comfortable with that cause i don't really understand it. ;P |
| 01:59.36 | malicia | Guerin: so I should... change Gcc for a while and then put it back or try a newer Kernel..? |
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| 01:59.59 | abrotman | RvGaTe: i opted to stay in this evening .. i go out a lot .. or for bike rides .. |
| 02:00.02 | dannyp | all in the name of science |
| 02:00.14 | Guerin | malicia: did you build with the full kp mantra line above? That specifies gcc-3.4, which should work. |
| 02:00.17 | abrotman | RvGaTe: i had a sufficiently long day .. reading docs .. writing code .. i'm beat :) |
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| 02:00.39 | RvGaTe | abrotman: bleh, same here, but only a long day |
| 02:00.43 | malicia | Guerin : Nope :p haha... |
| 02:00.58 | Guerin | malicia: ... |
| 02:00.59 | malicia | Guerin: I try that! then! |
| 02:01.07 | RvGaTe | abrotman: i almost got my ignorant ass in trouble today at school |
| 02:01.21 | abrotman | RvGaTe: i actually wanted to go for a ride tonight .. but i didn't leave work til late |
| 02:01.28 | Guerin | RvGaTe: you should endeavour to keep your donkey out of trouble at all times. |
| 02:01.36 | malicia | Guerin: thanks for the help. ;-) |
| 02:01.40 | RvGaTe | wasn't my fault |
| 02:02.56 | RvGaTe | the teacher was trying to give us lessons in html/php/javascript/mysql... but he completely explained it wrong.. so, to support the community and some respect to the wonderfull work they put in those apps, i corrected him during his presentation |
| 02:03.13 | secureboot | is there any way to detect is someone on a network is using kismet to capture packets? I was assuming no, since kismet is totally passive, as I understand it. |
| 02:03.13 | RvGaTe | he didn't like that |
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| 02:04.02 | Crak_otak | keep your mouth shut |
| 02:04.02 | Crak_otak | D |
| 02:04.04 | Crak_otak | XD |
| 02:04.30 | RvGaTe | i couldn't, he totaly disrespected those languages |
| 02:04.54 | abrotman | anyone teaching mysql is wrong .. right off the bat |
| 02:05.11 | RvGaTe | the student should be learning by itself |
| 02:05.21 | RvGaTe | reading stuff, trying stuff |
| 02:05.48 | RvGaTe | and go to irc for questions |
| 02:05.53 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 02:07.21 | frumious-0 | secureboot: I think there are ways using timing to detect if a NIC is in permiscuous (sp?) mode. |
| 02:07.31 | Guerin | promiscuous |
| 02:07.57 | frumious-0 | secureboot: I was reading about this recently but can't find the article. |
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| 02:08.54 | RvGaTe | im going to bed guys, cya tomorrow ! |
| 02:09.12 | secureboot | frumious-0: odd. What do you time, exactly? |
| 02:09.26 | frumious-0 | secureboot: Ah, yes, it was "AntiSniff" from Lopht. |
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| 02:10.21 | frumious-0 | http://seclists.org/lists/nmap-hackers/1999/Jan-Mar/0282.html |
| 02:12.43 | frumious-0 | A message in that thread mentions "hunt" (in debian) can do this. |
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| 02:13.38 | frumious-0 | Finally, this explains how AntiSniff uses timing to detect promiscuous (thanks Guerin) mode nics: http://seclists.org/lists/ids/1999/Sep/0071.html |
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| 02:15.00 | secureboot | frumious-0: thanks - i'll have a look at that now. |
| 02:15.04 | frumious-0 | I don't know how this all applies to wireless... |
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| 02:19.13 | secureboot | frumious-0: most of it doesn't apply to things like kismet |
| 02:19.28 | Landslide | i can't seem to get my graphics card in 1280x1024.. it is sticking to 800x600. |
| 02:19.35 | secureboot | frumious-0: the only thing is the timing attack, which is of dubious usefulness, at best, especially in a wireless setting |
| 02:19.39 | grego2 | how can I figure out which stable release I have installed? |
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| 02:19.59 | Landslide | originally i modified the /etc/X11/XF86Config4 file manually, then did the md5sum thing in /var and ran dpkg-reconfigure but the file did not get modified. |
| 02:20.01 | secureboot | frumious-0: it basically floods the network, then says, "Hey, the response is slow, the host must be processing things not intended for it" |
| 02:20.51 | secureboot | frumious-0: of course, the response is slow much of the time in wireless (even wired) because the network is flooded, not because of extra processing time. |
| 02:20.51 | Guerin | Landslide: check the md5sum |
| 02:21.03 | tvn | anyone familiar with TEX ? if I want some special mark ~ on top of a char c use \~c but when I want 2 special marks to appear on top of each other then on top of char c it won't work as \~\^c |
| 02:21.07 | secureboot | frumious-0: actual passive (not just partially passive) sniffers really aren't detected by this |
| 02:21.14 | Guerin | Landslide: #latex |
| 02:21.15 | Guerin | bah |
| 02:21.19 | Guerin | tvn: #latex |
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| 02:21.46 | abrotman | #s&m ? |
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| 02:22.20 | frumious-0 | secureboot: yes, it still requires the host OS to respond to broadcast pings. |
| 02:22.25 | [tD]LegionXIV | this channel has a lot of people on it, and i realize that this isnt appropriate place to ask this, but anyways. Is it possible to write a script/program that will play flash games for you? |
| 02:22.59 | secureboot | frumious-0: even then, it seems quite dubious. |
| 02:23.03 | Landslide | guerin: the md5 is the same |
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| 02:24.52 | nvz | [tD]LegionXIV: wtf are you talking about "play flash games for you"? |
| 02:25.09 | abrotman | [tD]LegionXIV: no |
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| 02:26.10 | nvz | I need to write a program to play GTA-SA for me. fuckin game is cheating :P |
| 02:26.23 | abrotman | nvz: it's easy |
| 02:27.44 | nvz | I started a new game on PS2 last night and today I got all 100 tags and it only said 99, so I went to gtasanandreas.net and used their map to go around and spray em all again several times, then just walked through gta-sanandreas.com's numbered tag map and sprayed them all again.. and its still not giving me my reward or saying I've sprayed all 100 yet there are none left to spray |
| 02:28.11 | [tD]LegionXIV | okay, but then how do people get impossibly high scores that you see on high score tables? |
| 02:28.21 | Phated | Practice and hard work? |
| 02:28.24 | [tD]LegionXIV | i must sound like a total n00b... |
| 02:28.47 | nvz | they have no life and play incredibly dumb flash games all day |
| 02:28.48 | abrotman | and OT |
| 02:28.53 | [tD]LegionXIV | no thats not true, because some games its humanly impossible to be that good... |
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| 02:29.03 | Phated | Humanly impossible for you. |
| 02:29.22 | kasper | i've got the hostap-modules, and utils installed, when i insert my pcmcia card hostap_cs and hostap load. but not hostap_crypt_wep and it won't connect to ANY Access Point, although kismet works w/ hostap installed. any ideas? |
| 02:29.34 | [tD]LegionXIV | wow they must be robots or something then |
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| 02:29.52 | abrotman | [tD]LegionXIV: it doesn't matter .. it's OT here |
| 02:30.22 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:30.52 | nvz | since when is 3rd party non-free software off topic :P |
| 02:30.59 | abrotman | no .. |
| 02:31.02 | abrotman | it was the script to play it |
| 02:31.06 | nvz | or I guess its contrib |
| 02:31.18 | Phated | Was it even that? |
| 02:31.23 | nvz | flash is non-free the games arent really |
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| 02:31.33 | abrotman | nvz: the SCRIPT! |
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| 02:31.46 | nvz | abrotman: the script doesnt even exist |
| 02:32.12 | abrotman | nvz: best google hack .. EVAR! |
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| 02:33.25 | nvz | aside from playing gta-sa again and already getting pissed at it glitching and cheating me.. I am listening to a lot of shitty music lately |
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| 02:34.18 | abrotman | nvz: prince? |
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| 02:35.03 | nvz | not prince.. worse probably.. I am listening to Faith Hill atm.. got cplay on random |
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| 02:39.06 | abrotman | oh ffs |
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| 02:39.14 | nvz | what? |
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| 02:39.31 | abrotman | nvz: you need to move back to pittsburgh .. living in tennessee is affecting your taste in music |
| 02:39.40 | nvz | abrotman: heh |
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| 02:40.31 | Unununium | How do I set up X for a "3DLabs Sun XVR-500 Graphics Accelerator"? |
| 02:42.42 | rrk | debian installer question -- how or where can i see |
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| 02:42.44 | rrk | apt errors for desktop task selection |
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| 02:43.20 | shingouz | rrk: on the third console i think. alt-F3 |
| 02:43.35 | rrk | no i tried that |
| 02:44.08 | neobie | Is it possible to install the msttcorefonts? i tried using apt-get to install it.. but that doesnt seem to work. |
| 02:44.46 | shingouz | rrk: you can always install without the "desktop" and install it later. i find it easier to do it that way myself. do you get anything relevant on the third console? |
| 02:44.56 | rrk | did that |
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| 02:45.19 | rrk | nothing on the 3rd console |
| 02:45.22 | Unununium | Is my graphics problem a lost cause? |
| 02:45.36 | shingouz | Unununium: probably not. have you tried to set it up already? |
| 02:45.43 | grego2 | is there a decent GUI to configure X? |
| 02:45.53 | Unununium | Yes, but I can't find any drivers for it |
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| 02:46.08 | shingouz | grego2: /msg dpkg drxx |
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| 02:46.30 | shingouz | grego2: not really a need for a gui to do that. most of the stuff is numbers in anycase |
| 02:46.40 | Unununium | grego2: how could you have a GUI before you had X? |
| 02:46.45 | shingouz | Unununium: tried vesa? |
| 02:46.55 | Unununium | This is not a PC. |
| 02:47.03 | grego2 | Unununium, I do it all the time, but I'm not historicly a debian user. |
| 02:47.07 | Unununium | It's a SunBlade 1500 machine (SPARC 64 processor) |
| 02:47.07 | rrk | i tried rerunning base-config but it errors out with no way to check the error |
| 02:47.31 | shingouz | rrk: what about installing without the desktop and then install the desktop goodies later? |
| 02:47.38 | rrk | i select desktop envrio -- it starts then errors |
| 02:47.42 | Unununium | And yes, I tried vesa. (Maybe I configured vesa wrong?) |
| 02:47.43 | shingouz | Unununium: hmmm.... that makes it a bit tougher |
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| 02:47.57 | Seb | sup y'all |
| 02:48.08 | shingouz | rrk: do not pick the desktop environment in that case. is your system already running? |
| 02:48.26 | rrk | system is up |
| 02:48.33 | Seb | pbuilder says: "Someone else has lock over /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz.tmp, waiting" -> where is the lock, I need to remove it manually, no other pbuilder is actually running... |
| 02:48.38 | Unununium | Its super-slow terminal is driving me nuts. Plus it's a bit buggy. (My display is mildly corrupted and I need to ^L often) |
| 02:48.41 | rrk | i managed to get kde installed |
| 02:48.42 | shingouz | Unununium: possibly a misconfig. check the logs for more information, maybe there is something that helps |
| 02:49.04 | shingouz | rrk: there you go then |
| 02:49.18 | Unununium | (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa |
| 02:49.18 | Unununium | (EE) No devices detected. |
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| 02:49.25 | rrk | looks like no x no kdm and what not |
| 02:49.27 | Unununium | Well, it's using VESA... |
| 02:49.43 | cuban | whats this channel about |
| 02:49.45 | shingouz | Unununium: hm. not fun then. so you do not get any X at all i think |
| 02:49.52 | shingouz | cuban: /topic |
| 02:50.00 | rrk | if i could see the apt error i could fix it |
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| 02:50.26 | rrk | i need x and kde |
| 02:50.26 | shingouz | rrk: you already *have* the desktop environment installed. what is missing? |
| 02:50.35 | shingouz | rrk: do you get a gui? |
| 02:50.40 | rrk | no |
| 02:50.52 | shingouz | rrk: try startx |
| 02:50.52 | abrotman | shingouz: my debian accidentally installed suse .. can you help? |
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| 02:51.13 | rrk | yep tried that |
| 02:51.19 | shingouz | abrotman: sure i can. put in the winduhs rescue cd and reboot |
| 02:51.21 | rrk | x is not installed |
| 02:51.23 | Unununium | shingouz: I guess I'll just do everything by ssh'ing in from a remote machine |
| 02:51.33 | rrk | kdebase did install |
| 02:51.47 | liable | rrk: install x-window-system. |
| 02:51.58 | abrotman | shingouz: but it's a mac |
| 02:52.02 | shingouz | Unununium: that sounds like a pretty good idea too. unless you can slap in some other graphics card in the box? |
| 02:52.20 | shingouz | abrotman: i can send you Mac OS 6.0.0 if you like :p |
| 02:52.21 | kapil_away | Unununium: I seem to recall that the Sun machines worked with a frame buffer driver. Not "vesa" but "fbdev". |
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| 02:52.33 | abrotman | shingouz: ok |
| 02:52.50 | shingouz | abrotman: you need caffeine. you definitely need caffeine :p |
| 02:52.59 | abrotman | shingouz: i need sleep :) |
| 02:53.12 | shingouz | abrotman: sleep is a cheap substitute for caffeine |
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| 02:54.00 | kapil_away | some people *looks around meaningfully* need to go-fer-cofee :-) |
| 02:54.12 | kapil_away | sorry. that was rude. |
| 02:54.14 | abrotman | shingouz: i suppose |
| 02:54.21 | timgoh0 | kapil_away: You're right |
| 02:54.26 | shingouz | abrotman: how the hell have you been in anycase? |
| 02:54.29 | timgoh0 | I can't think straight. |
| 02:54.34 | abrotman | shingouz: waiting for you |
| 02:54.39 | abrotman | shingouz: how's the wife2.0 ? |
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| 02:54.51 | _quik_ | hey folks. |
| 02:55.34 | _quik_ | I've got the business card netinstaller for debian, running it and the installer is giving me an error that says that the kernel/base system is having major issues |
| 02:55.35 | shingouz | abrotman: heh (and to answer your question, the new version is $appropriate_adjective) |
| 02:55.39 | _quik_ | why the hell is that? |
| 02:55.48 | rrk | is there no way to find debian installer errors (log) or some way to see the package list for desktop envrio |
| 02:55.59 | abrotman | shingouz: crappy ? |
| 02:56.15 | shingouz | rrk: did you already install the x-window-system? |
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| 02:56.26 | shingouz | abrotman: nope. the opposite of that :) |
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| 02:56.38 | kapil | rrk: look at /root/install.log |
| 02:56.42 | rrk | it is down loading 78 megs |
| 02:56.51 | abrotman | shingouz: peey ? |
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| 02:56.57 | rrk | did that is the base files |
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| 02:57.12 | shingouz | abrotman: <sigh> you *do* need some sleep :) |
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| 02:57.31 | rrk | no mention of what it does not like about the desktop task |
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| 02:57.33 | kapil | rrk: are you in the installer at this point? in which case alt-F3 or alt-F4 might give you some idea of what's going on. |
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| 02:57.42 | abrotman | shingouz: there's only #1 and #2 ... |
| 02:58.05 | rrk | checked f3 nothing had to log in |
| 02:58.11 | _quik_ | debian base system isn't installing properly from the business card net installer... whats the deal??! |
| 02:58.12 | shingouz | abrotman: hehehe... Wife 2.0 is a very sweet thing :$ |
| 02:58.26 | shingouz | rrk: f4 |
| 02:58.32 | abrotman | shingouz: did wife1.0 try to kill 2.0 yet? |
| 02:58.34 | rrk | ok |
| 02:58.51 | kapil | _quik_: isn't installing properly isn't enough information |
| 02:58.59 | shingouz | rrk: *and* if you are already apt-getting stuff in, you can stop worrying about the "desktop task" |
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| 02:59.22 | shingouz | abrotman: nope. and i doubt she will, not that type at all |
| 02:59.30 | _quik_ | the base system keeps erroring, I'm running it again now to get the error code |
| 02:59.36 | greg02 | hoorah, X is working much better now |
| 02:59.42 | abrotman | shingouz: oh .. maybe they will get together .. and like .. threesome! |
| 02:59.47 | greg02 | now I need to figure out what's up with wireless |
| 03:00.01 | rrk | no nothing on f4 |
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| 03:00.18 | shingouz | abrotman: that is doubtful too. besides i am an old fart already, i do not think i could keep up with two |
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| 03:00.31 | kapil | rrk: alt-f2 will give you a shell. |
| 03:00.34 | shingouz | rrk: are you still in the installer then? |
| 03:00.37 | rrk | the base install is ok -- x errored out |
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| 03:01.06 | geoffb | How can I determine what packages are part of a given task? |
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| 03:01.14 | abrotman | shingouz: maybe they won't use you! |
| 03:01.28 | rrk | the base install is ok this is in the second stage of the install -- task selection |
| 03:01.30 | shingouz | abrotman: still... :p |
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| 03:01.49 | abrotman | shingouz: oh well .. |
| 03:02.01 | shingouz | rrk: so *are you in the installer now or have you logged on after a normal boot?* |
| 03:02.05 | nvz | wife 2.0 conflicts with wife 1.0 in some countries |
| 03:02.09 | rrk | yes |
| 03:02.12 | shingouz | nvz: like here |
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| 03:02.35 | shingouz | rrk: in that case *forget about the "desktop task* and install x-window-system |
| 03:02.47 | abrotman | nvz: that's why i'm moving to kentucky .. i can make daughter0.5 into wife2.0 |
| 03:02.49 | nvz | sometimes you can pivot_root wife 2.0 and she wont know the difference |
| 03:02.58 | rrk | tried it is erroring out with timestamp issues |
| 03:03.18 | shingouz | rrk: can you possibly give us some information about the "issues"? |
| 03:03.21 | rrk | on frame buffer package |
| 03:03.27 | rrk | ok |
| 03:03.32 | shingouz | rrk: stop |
| 03:03.36 | nvz | abrotman: heh, incest is the best from what my West Virginian cousin says |
| 03:03.47 | rrk | going to start ssh on that box brb |
| 03:04.05 | abrotman | nvz: what happened to starfish ? |
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| 03:04.40 | rue_more | !apt find dio |
| 03:04.41 | nvz | abrotman: well he got into a fight with a lawn mower about a week ago.. lost his toes |
| 03:04.47 | shingouz | rrk: first of all, if you answer someone perticular on the channel, please start your line with the nick (/msg dpkg nicktab). second, do not use the enter as much (/msg dpkg enter) and third, please answer the questions we ask, do not make us guess |
| 03:05.06 | rue_more | anyone know anything about the dio for php4? |
| 03:05.16 | abrotman | nvz: the one with the baby? |
| 03:05.23 | shingouz | !find dio |
| 03:05.25 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'dio' (15 of 61): agistudio ;; audiolink ;; audiooss ;; diogenes ;; exult-studio ;; gkrellm-radio ;; gnome-audio ;; gnomoradio ;; gnuradio-doc ;; gnuradio-examples ;; gr-audio-alsa ;; gr-audio-oss ;; gradio ;; gstreamer0.8-audiofile ;; gstreamer0.8-polypaudio. |
| 03:05.39 | rue_more | :/ |
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| 03:05.51 | shingouz | rue_more: what are you really looking for? |
| 03:06.15 | shadow98 | how do i find out what package QT is in? i tried doing apt-get install qt |
| 03:06.18 | rue_more | I want to use the DIO functions in php4 |
| 03:06.19 | shadow98 | but that didnt work |
| 03:06.30 | nvz | abrotman: ever since GWB got into office having kids has been the thing to do.. nobody knows if tomorrow is comming or if we are going to get bombed.. everyone is gettin it while they can |
| 03:06.41 | shingouz | shadow98: /msg dpkg search (apt-cache search foo) |
| 03:06.44 | kapil | shadow98: try apt-cache search qt |
| 03:06.54 | abrotman | nvz: your cousin .. starfish . the one that just had a baby .. right ? |
| 03:07.00 | nvz | abrotman: just about everyone I know just had a baby |
| 03:07.10 | shingouz | rue_more: you too, apt-cache search helps you |
| 03:07.43 | abrotman | nvz: answer the question! |
| 03:07.58 | shingouz | abrotman: he is playing the vague game :p |
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| 03:08.10 | shadow98 | apt-cache search returned a lot of packages |
| 03:08.16 | abrotman | no shit |
| 03:08.19 | shingouz | abrotman: maybe you should vaguenesssmite ;) |
| 03:08.23 | nvz | abrotman: yes he had a kid. its not that big of a deal.. even roaches have kids, right?! |
| 03:08.32 | shingouz | shadow98: apt-cache search foo | grep bar |
| 03:08.36 | nvz | !yinzersmite shingouz |
| 03:08.46 | shingouz | !camelsmite nvz |
| 03:08.48 | rue_more | shingouz already did, cant find anything about it |
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| 03:09.02 | rue_more | from what I can tell there is no php4 binary with teh dio anabled |
| 03:09.06 | geoffb | Question: How can I determine what packages are part of a given task? |
| 03:09.23 | geoffb | (apt-cache show desktop-task, for instance, doesn't work) |
| 03:09.24 | shingouz | rue_more: hmmm... out of my depth then |
| 03:09.32 | spearsjc | shadow98: 'apt-cache search libqt' is more specific and should give you a short list |
| 03:09.35 | rue_more | http://www.klevze.si/php_manual/function.dio-tcsetattr.php |
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| 03:11.49 | shingouz | geoffb: maybe man tasksel would help to point you in the right direction? i am not really sure where the information would be jotted down. |
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| 03:13.37 | geoffb | shingouz, thx for the clue by four. Apparently tasksel has a number of useful options to give task info to stdout . . . I had just assumed it was dialog interface only. |
| 03:13.38 | geoffb | Sigh |
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| 03:13.51 | shingouz | geoffb: np :) |
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| 03:14.52 | shingouz | geoffb: you just told me information i did not know. i have not used tasksel in years, i do not even have it installed anywhere even when i install a fresh system |
| 03:14.54 | fisious | hello |
| 03:14.57 | rrk | shingouz there is a problem with the timestamps on xserver-common has an error -f install won't clear it |
| 03:15.04 | fisious | what is best channel for basic debian help? |
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| 03:15.27 | shingouz | fisious: probably this one |
| 03:15.41 | geoffb | shingouz, :-) |
| 03:15.49 | shingouz | rrk: and the error is? |
| 03:15.51 | kapil | rrk: will dpkg --purge xserver-common work for you? perhaps. |
| 03:16.06 | rrk | will try purge |
| 03:16.11 | fisious | shingouz thx. i have an NFS share on my Mac that i want my linux box to auto mount when available. any pointers? i don't even know how to mount. usually get my friend over |
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| 03:16.17 | fisious | but i do know my way around |
| 03:17.23 | shingouz | fisious: usually just ask on the channel, do not point your question to someone particular in the first place. in this case the only things i can tell you is to man fstab and mount |
| 03:17.32 | kapil | fisious: the usual auto mount is "when accessed" not "when available". |
| 03:17.44 | fisious | okay that's a start. thx all |
| 03:18.02 | fisious | ima irc nublette |
| 03:18.07 | kapil | fisious: to make an NFS mount work when available try the "bg" option for NFS mounts. |
| 03:18.14 | shingouz | fisious: you'll learn :) |
| 03:18.29 | fisious | thx kapil |
| 03:18.40 | _quik_ | the net installer errors with "no installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" |
| 03:18.44 | fisious | fstab scares me |
| 03:18.49 | shingouz | fisious: just sit here and lurk, you'll learn things even by that |
| 03:18.55 | fisious | cheers |
| 03:18.58 | rrk | shingouz the error for xserver-common is in the preinstall script --the time stamp is in the future |
| 03:19.00 | shingouz | @comfort fisious |
| 03:19.01 | ravenbird | There, there, fisious. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 03:19.10 | _quik_ | "the current default package is 'kernel-image-2.4.686 |
| 03:19.13 | fisious | :) i'll go ge the oil |
| 03:19.26 | kapil | fisious: note however that the bg only works the "first time". After that you'll run into NFS server not responding error logs. |
| 03:19.28 | shingouz | rrk: sounds like your system clock is somehow weird |
| 03:19.40 | rrk | ok will check |
| 03:19.43 | _quik_ | "You may try to continue, though this rather strange error is probably fatal" |
| 03:19.48 | _quik_ | what the hell does that mean> |
| 03:19.54 | kapil | fisious: Should have said that the error logs happen if the NFS server goes offline. |
| 03:20.04 | fisious | kapil what i'm intending is having this NFS mount made to a virtual web dir so it is accessed via apache2 |
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| 03:20.32 | shingouz | _quik: what are you trying to do? and lose the enters, enter is not punctuation |
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| 03:20.52 | shingouz | fisious: will that be over the internet? |
| 03:20.57 | fisious | yeah |
| 03:21.07 | shingouz | fisious: one word: don't |
| 03:21.17 | fisious | why? |
| 03:21.24 | fisious | it is not a root dir |
| 03:21.26 | kapil | fisious: im nodding sagely without understanding. do you want NFS or Web-based file access a la DAV? |
| 03:21.35 | shingouz | fisious: nfs is highly insecure, you will have all kinds of pron etc in it in about two seconds if you do that |
| 03:21.38 | rrk | shingouz -- yes booting live cd to set time |
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| 03:21.44 | fisious | oh okay |
| 03:22.04 | shingouz | fisious: what do you want to accomplish with it? |
| 03:22.06 | fisious | even if nfs isn't made available outside my subnet? |
| 03:22.28 | Ryushin | Hi all. I've been using unstable on a box. And I want to take it back down to testing. How can I do that? apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't seem to do it. |
| 03:22.32 | shingouz | fisious: on your local network it is ok, over the internet is is most definitely not |
| 03:22.44 | _quik_ | shingouz -- ever seen those errors? |
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| 03:22.46 | shingouz | Ryushin: reinstall |
| 03:23.04 | fisious | well. not being in the loop of all this, i expected NFS to be the best filesystem to attache a linux and a MacOSX box together |
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| 03:23.12 | shingouz | _quik: yes. your sources.list is somehow weird |
| 03:23.14 | kapil | Ryushin: your best bet would be to find some space and do a debootstrap. Or re-install. |
| 03:24.03 | shingouz | fisious: not sure about the best but at least one very useable way to do it. so what do you want to do with it, use the mac as a remote filesystem? |
| 03:24.14 | fisious | yes |
| 03:24.14 | Ryushin | I remember a couple of years ago, when I just changed the sources and it worked fine. Hmmmm.... I think I used dselect back then too. |
| 03:24.20 | fisious | shingouz yes |
| 03:24.23 | kapil | fisious: waters are still murky here. Are the mac and the linux box on the same lan? |
| 03:24.30 | fisious | yes |
| 03:24.41 | fisious | linux box =.1.1 mac is .1.10 |
| 03:25.22 | shingouz | fisious: on private ip's or public ip's? |
| 03:26.02 | fisious | private |
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| 03:26.20 | shingouz | fisious: if they really are on the same lan, go for it. man fstab is the best point to start really. it is not too hard to make a nfs mount |
| 03:26.25 | fisious | peeps have ip to my linux box on pp0(eth0) |
| 03:26.28 | kapil | Ryushin: downgrade can be attempted but things may come crashing down (the grade). |
| 03:26.42 | _quik_ | shingouz -- what can I do to fix that? |
| 03:26.53 | shingouz | !tell fisious about nfs |
| 03:27.00 | shingouz | fisious: maybe that helps a bit? |
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| 03:27.05 | fisious | so they click on a link to see all the stuff on my NFS . . . thx |
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| 03:27.20 | mith | um |
| 03:27.38 | mith | kawfee wants to be unbanned or something |
| 03:27.41 | fisious | i've made the NFS share. just want to mount it on the liux box. i don't have anything important on my network. |
| 03:27.42 | mith | not that I care |
| 03:27.48 | fisious | this is all for fun and interest sake |
| 03:27.51 | shingouz | fisious: people? as in anyone? or just the people on your lan? |
| 03:27.59 | fisious | anyone |
| 03:28.17 | shingouz | fisious: in that case *no nfs* unless you know absolutely what you do |
| 03:28.23 | fisious | but they will be accessing the files as read only via a web broswer |
| 03:28.25 | kapil | fisious: *buld lights up somewhere*. You have a web server on the Linux box and you want the files from the Mac to become accessible via this server. |
| 03:28.35 | fisious | you got it |
| 03:28.38 | kapil | s/buld/bulb/ |
| 03:29.05 | shingouz | _quik: apt-setup perhaps? |
| 03:30.05 | kapil | fisious: there should be no problem with the NFS access in that case...unless the MAC goes offline. |
| 03:30.19 | mith | why are you using nfs to do that? just turn on apache on the mac and use mod_rewrite or mod_proxy (if you really want to serve it through the linux box) |
| 03:30.42 | _quik_ | i;m still in the installer shingouz |
| 03:30.50 | fisious | kapil that's what i thought. what happens when the mac goes offline. does the linux box have a cow? or is all fine when it comes back up? |
| 03:30.59 | _quik_ | I'm sure I've had more luck with other distributions of nix |
| 03:31.29 | kapil | fisious: if that is a problem for you then have a look at rsync or unison to synchronise directories. You need space to store the files on the linux box and you need to have a mechanism to perform the sync. |
| 03:31.36 | shingouz | _quik: is that a fresh version of the installer btw? |
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| 03:31.48 | fisious | no thx. 10gig on linux box 250 on mac |
| 03:32.01 | fisious | it's not a prob if peeps can't see it when it's shutdown |
| 03:32.13 | kapil | fisious: there is also "coda" which is a kind of offline/online NFS. but i've never used it. |
| 03:32.17 | _quik_ | shingouz - downloaded it this morning |
| 03:32.42 | kapil | shingouz: yes. a big problem those shifty types :) |
| 03:33.04 | shingouz | john__: :) |
| 03:33.14 | john__ | sorry |
| 03:33.26 | shingouz | good catch, man :) |
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| 03:33.41 | shingouz | nice to see someone pays attention here |
| 03:33.47 | abrotman | what? |
| 03:33.59 | john | okay, sorry about that guys |
| 03:34.18 | kapil | shingouz: did i hear someone mention "pay"? |
| 03:34.27 | shingouz | !beer John |
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| 03:34.36 | abrotman | i saw atten .. oh .. shiny! |
| 03:34.56 | shingouz | _quik: have you tried to install with a 2.6? |
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| 03:35.12 | mith | !mith shingouz |
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| 03:35.24 | Ryushin | I figured out what I did wrong. I needed to pin testing over 1000. 1001 and it's downgrading nicely. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks guys. |
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| 03:36.17 | _quik_ | 2.6? |
| 03:36.30 | _quik_ | no |
| 03:36.31 | abrotman | you know . windows 2.6 |
| 03:36.33 | abrotman | err |
| 03:36.34 | shingouz | _quik: kernel. try it |
| 03:36.42 | _quik_ | how do I do that? |
| 03:36.53 | kapil | _quik_: what stage of the installer has jammed on you? |
| 03:36.55 | _quik_ | :> |
| 03:37.02 | shingouz | _quik: did you read the install manual? |
| 03:37.24 | _quik_ | Base system installation error |
| 03:37.49 | _quik_ | the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) |
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| 03:38.25 | shingouz | _quik: check in consoles three and four for errors |
| 03:38.37 | Barbzerdry | I am of German internetting siteweb |
| 03:38.40 | kapil | _quik_: Oh. all this while I thought you were with the debian installer. |
| 03:38.46 | Barbzerdry | please to be in the helping me of out |
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| 03:38.56 | kapil | _quik_: are you in debootstrap then? |
| 03:39.16 | _quik_ | I'm using the business card netinstall disk |
| 03:39.22 | shingouz | Barbzerdry: what is your native language btw? |
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| 03:39.29 | Bac9 | great app bootchard, now can someone tell me why portmap starts twice (once in rcS.d and second time in rc2.d)? |
| 03:40.25 | abrotman | shingouz: verizon.net ? |
| 03:40.52 | kapil | Bac9: fresh install or upgrade? |
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| 03:41.15 | shingouz | abrotman: so? native language has nothing to do with the isp. of course trollish is spoken fluently anywhere in the world. just point and grunt |
| 03:41.34 | abrotman | shingouz: andgone already .. |
| 03:41.37 | Bac9 | kapil: upgrade, why? |
| 03:41.49 | Bac9 | kapil: upgraded a long time ago |
| 03:41.52 | shingouz | abrotman: not a very good troll that |
| 03:41.56 | abrotman | aye |
| 03:42.02 | kapil | Bac9: perhaps one of the links is a left over. |
| 03:42.19 | shingouz | ....and i still have a bag of trollfodder here... |
| 03:42.20 | Bac9 | kapil: any clue as to how to find out which one is valid? |
| 03:42.42 | kapil | Bac9: brb. I'll check with the portmap package. |
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| 03:43.08 | Bac9 | kapil: where/how to check rc*.d links? |
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| 03:43.58 | shingouz | Bac9: ls -l the rc?.d/ and update-rc.d to work on them |
| 03:44.17 | kapil | Bac9: actually. i was wrong and you were right. both links *are* part of the fresh install as well. |
| 03:44.36 | _quik_ | so 2.6 is an older kernel? |
| 03:44.51 | shingouz | _quik: no. newer |
| 03:44.55 | kapil | Bac9: mysterious behaviour of portmap startup scripts .... *scratches head* |
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| 03:45.38 | Bac9 | kapil: yeah and the scripts have a "sleep" inside, slows down boot process, not to mention that both rcS.d and rc2.d point to same script |
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| 03:46.33 | liable | why not remove portmap? you use nfs/ |
| 03:46.49 | fisious | fisious: mount -t nfs server:/sharename/etc ... waiting .. waiting .. waiting... why? |
| 03:46.53 | shingouz | Bac9: stop complaining, i get the 90 secs spinning up the disks on the raid |
| 03:47.22 | abrotman | shingouz: maybe you should get off the fastscsi2 crap :) |
| 03:47.34 | Bac9 | shingouz: hahaha :-) |
| 03:47.44 | shingouz | abrotman: :p |
| 03:47.52 | shingouz | Bac9: you too ;) |
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| 03:48.13 | cyzie | anyone have the experience upgrade from sarge to etch where you cannot start applicaitions like firefox and openoffice? |
| 03:48.13 | Bac9 | shingouz: is it wrong to want debian to boot at least as fast as win95? |
| 03:48.18 | Bac9 | shingouz: preferably faster |
| 03:48.20 | shingouz | abrotman: of course the amount of drives does have something to do with how long it boots |
| 03:48.30 | abrotman | shingouz: 10? |
| 03:48.35 | shingouz | Bac9: win95? on smp computers? eugh |
| 03:48.36 | Bac9 | cyzie: my upgrade went smoothly |
| 03:48.37 | shingouz | 18 |
| 03:48.58 | Bac9 | shingouz: win95 boots on smp? wow |
| 03:49.04 | cyzie | Bac9, now i cannot start openoffice :? |
| 03:49.06 | kapil | Bac9: it is not a crime to ask for more from debian. However, if things go well you should not need to boot your machine so often with debian. |
| 03:49.20 | Bac9 | kapil: it's a dual-boot |
| 03:49.29 | shingouz | Bac9: it should boot, just that it is even more pointless to run on a smp than it is normally.... |
| 03:49.37 | rrk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.45 | shingouz | !drxx |
| 03:49.45 | dpkg | i heard drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 03:49.55 | Bac9 | shingouz: dos/smp :-) |
| 03:49.56 | shingouz | rrk: no but dpkg does ;) |
| 03:49.58 | kapil | Bac9: also consider that 2 seconds (which is what you will gain by altering the scripts) is not much. |
| 03:50.13 | shingouz | Bac9: interesting idea... |
| 03:50.40 | Bac9 | kapil: 2s here and 2s there and it might only take half the time to boot, 5s of the entire boot process is spent in sleeps |
| 03:50.48 | Bac9 | kapil: that's over 5% |
| 03:50.54 | kapil | Bac9: finally. as liable said. what is the service that you use that depends on portmap. perhaps "fam". |
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| 03:51.04 | Bac9 | kapil: nfs |
| 03:51.36 | Bac9 | liable: woops missed your earlier post |
| 03:51.46 | Bac9 | liable: yeah I use nfs |
| 03:52.19 | Bac9 | and why does "test -L /dev/MAKEDEV || ln -fs /sbin/MAKEDEV /dev/MAKEDEV" take 1.5 seconds to execute? |
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| 03:52.25 | kapil | Bac9: nfs will not start without portmap working. and the maintainer has given a hint that portmap may not work properly without the sleep. |
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| 03:52.31 | foo | I am having some weird problems in firefox. I try to add a bookmark and get this problem: "XML Parsing Error: not well-formed\nLocation: chrome://browser/content/bookmarks/addBookmark2.xul/nLine Number 1, Column 1: //home.netscape.com/NC-rdf#Name" /> ^ ... and when I right click on an image and go to properties I get this: "XML Parsing Error: not well-formed\nLocation: chrome://browser/content/metaData.xul\nLine Number 2, Column 1: }\n^" ... any ideas on this s |
| 03:52.44 | fisious | so happy to be on microsoft site to learn how to mount ouch |
| 03:53.01 | Bac9 | kapil: because he's trying to configure portmap asynchronously from starting it |
| 03:53.17 | Bac9 | kapil: there must be a better way then sleeping and waiting for the daemon to start up |
| 03:53.21 | cheal | foo: which firefox version? |
| 03:53.34 | foo | cheal: 1.0.4 |
| 03:53.55 | Bac9 | kapil: like say wrapping it inside a script then launching the script as a daemon? |
| 03:54.09 | kapil | Bac9: so you could remove portmap from the rc2.d but then also remove the stop link from rc1.d |
| 03:54.11 | Bac9 | kapil: oh wait that might not work, but some other way might exist |
| 03:54.14 | cheal | foo: I doubt that fixed, but get 1.0.4-sarge3 |
| 03:54.20 | cheal | s/fixed/fixes |
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| 03:54.48 | Bac9 | kapil: true, that'd save me 1s of boot |
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| 03:54.59 | prohna | okay |
| 03:55.10 | zbalart | hello |
| 03:55.12 | prohna | someone want to walk a total noob through installing debian? |
| 03:55.17 | kapil | Bac9: the alternative is to use alternatives to init like "runit" that give a "requires". |
| 03:55.36 | fisious | what's command structure for mount with username? |
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| 03:55.55 | kapil | Bac9: for example it would then say "nfs requires portmap" so you need not sleep waiting for portmap. Once it starts, the nfs startup can run. |
| 03:55.58 | Bac9 | kapil: there are apps that retrurn when a process has started (at least for X) |
| 03:56.06 | LordNazgul | ive got a bunch of avi files i want to burn to a video dvd. anyone know of a decent encoder program? im hoping to use my linux box to encode them and then burn them on my windows machine. my windows machine simply doesnt have the processing power to do it without it taking forever |
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| 03:56.09 | prohna | i dont have any cdrs |
| 03:56.14 | Bac9 | kapil: I do agree with you |
| 03:56.18 | prohna | is it a bad idea to try booting from a floppy? |
| 03:56.26 | shingouz | !rube goldberg install |
| 03:56.26 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 03:56.39 | shingouz | prohna: nope, you can use two floppies to install it |
| 03:56.43 | kapil | LordNazgul: try vcdimager. |
| 03:56.50 | Bac9 | kapil: feel like rebooting a box, try running bootchartd and see what it comes up with |
| 03:56.52 | LordNazgul | thanx much |
| 03:57.03 | prohna | shingouz: is it more difficult? |
| 03:57.19 | shingouz | prohna: no. did you read the install manual? |
| 03:57.39 | prohna | parts of it |
| 03:57.49 | prohna | i got to where it said i could use a floppy and couldnt decide |
| 03:57.51 | zbalart | I'm trying to install linx-wlang-ng, it can't find hardirq.h as it is not present, which kernel module do I need to compile to have it ? |
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| 03:58.18 | prohna | im afraid to start cause im gonna have to format this hd meaning if i get stuck i wont be able to get online for help |
| 03:58.22 | shingouz | prohna: if you do not have a cd-r there, use floppies. anything goes, the install is the same in anycase |
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| 03:59.15 | abrotman | sleep! :) |
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| 03:59.31 | _quik_ | shingouz, fingers crossed, I think its finally going |
| 03:59.52 | kapil | prohna: fear nothing but fear itself :) |
| 04:00.06 | prohna | seriously though |
| 04:00.13 | prohna | if i do that and something goes wrong ill be screwed |
| 04:00.39 | kapil | prohna: what is the O/S currently on your machine? |
| 04:00.40 | _quik_ | yeah you'll be screwed the debian install phase for me so far has blown ass |
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| 04:00.56 | prohna | xp |
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| 04:01.15 | _quik_ | worse than blown ass, more like tossin salads |
| 04:01.24 | LightVision | i keep getting WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! |
| 04:01.26 | LightVision | WARNING: Local version: 0.86.2 Recommended version: 0.87! How can I fix this please? |
| 04:01.52 | jcole | i've been banging my head trying to figure out how to write a shell script that parses "ps -ef" and gives me a ps tree... this is for "another unix" box that does not have pstree, ps -efH, etc... anyone got a script justa-layin-around to do this? |
| 04:02.01 | prohna | windows xp and no boot disc for it |
| 04:02.16 | LightVision | has anyone been able to update to ClamAV version: 0.87? |
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| 04:02.38 | _quik_ | so ah, download one |
| 04:02.38 | kapil | prohna: you should (in principle) not run into any problems with a boot floppy (or two). |
| 04:02.40 | LightVision | jcole: did you really bang your head? |
| 04:02.48 | shingouz | _quik: i have suspected for some time you have not read the install manual before you started the install |
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| 04:02.58 | kapil | prohna: there are two places where critical changes will be made to your hard disk. |
| 04:03.01 | jcole | LightVision: ya, both of them |
| 04:03.04 | _quik_ | shingouz, right and why is this? |
| 04:03.27 | shingouz | _quik: because you never thought to try the other install kernel in the first place |
| 04:03.37 | fisious | fisious is now crying |
| 04:03.39 | kapil | prohna: first when parted resizes your xp/nt partition. second when the new bootloader is installed. |
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| 04:03.57 | LightVision | jcole: you sick mutha |
| 04:04.00 | kapil | prohna: the first one is unavoidable. you need not use the second. |
| 04:04.01 | shingouz | fisious: try typing *me is crying' :) |
| 04:04.05 | shingouz | bah |
| 04:04.17 | shingouz | fisious: '/me is crying' |
| 04:04.17 | _quik_ | shingouz, I'm a linux newb, what do you expect? |
| 04:04.31 | _quik_ | my main terminal experience is with os x |
| 04:04.41 | prohna | if all goes well will i be able to get back online? or how much more work is there after that? |
| 04:04.59 | shingouz | _quik: i expect you to stop badmouthing the installer when you have not even bothered to read the manual to be quite plain |
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| 04:05.22 | fisious | that's it i'm reformatting everything to wfw311 |
| 04:05.23 | shingouz | prohna: not a lot more, the install should just work |
| 04:05.27 | woodland | is there separate channel for debian wireless users ? |
| 04:05.33 | shingouz | fisious: ? |
| 04:05.37 | LightVision | jcole: how is your sister after friday night? |
| 04:05.42 | fisious | :p |
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| 04:06.00 | _quik_ | shingouz, only debian has ever given me this much pain |
| 04:06.05 | shingouz | fisious: wfw 311 is not an o/s, it is just a gui :) |
| 04:06.13 | fisious | true |
| 04:06.16 | woodland | i have to set up wireless on debian sarge 2.4 |
| 04:06.17 | LightVision | fisious: ms dos 5.1 is better suited to your temparement and IQ :) |
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| 04:06.28 | fisious | oooh that's low |
| 04:06.31 | _quik_ | I'll learn though, I'm sure |
| 04:06.44 | LightVision | debian sarge 2.4??? |
| 04:06.46 | fisious | !tissue |
| 04:06.48 | shingouz | LightVision: there *is* no 5.1. there is 5.0.... |
| 04:06.49 | LightVision | fisious: ;) |
| 04:06.51 | litage | i'm naming my servers after animals. Eg: file = camel, mail = albatross, ldap = owl. any suggestions for what to call the DNS server? |
| 04:07.01 | LightVision | !hug fisious |
| 04:07.01 | kapil | _quik_: no pain no gain |
| 04:07.04 | woodland | lightvision, kernel 2.4 |
| 04:07.09 | _quik_ | thats right |
| 04:07.14 | shingouz | litage: umm... bantha? |
| 04:07.19 | LightVision | shingouz: thats funny for im looking at the DOS 5.1 book right now |
| 04:07.23 | litage | shingouz: what's a bantha? |
| 04:07.34 | LightVision | woodland: ahh :) |
| 04:07.35 | woodland | can u guys tell me how to set up wireless on debiaan |
| 04:07.41 | woodland | light, hi |
| 04:07.54 | shingouz | litage: you got to be kidding me? never seen star wars? :o |
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| 04:08.06 | litage | shingouz: i have, but i've no idea wht a bantha is |
| 04:08.15 | shingouz | woodland: install wireless-tools |
| 04:08.18 | woodland | when i do 'iwconfig' it says 'no wireless extensions' but i have wireless broadcom card |
| 04:08.19 | LightVision | litage: a bantha is a banana with a bandana wrapped around it |
| 04:08.29 | woodland | ok i will install that |
| 04:08.32 | litage | hah |
| 04:08.34 | prohna | lit on fire running across the freeway |
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| 04:08.43 | LightVision | woodland: try wireless-tools |
| 04:08.46 | woodland | ok |
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| 04:08.49 | shingouz | litage: ok ok, name it tauntaun then :p |
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| 04:09.17 | LightVision | litage: :) |
| 04:09.23 | jcole | LightVision: lisa and kelly are fine |
| 04:09.24 | litage | -P |
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| 04:09.44 | LightVision | jcole: cool ;) |
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| 04:10.14 | LightVision | i downloaded clamav-0.87.tar.gz for ClamSCan. But how do I now install clamav-0.87.tar.gz? do I type ./configure ? |
| 04:10.35 | litage | LightVision: read the install instructions |
| 04:10.38 | shingouz | LightVision: how about just apt-get install clamav? |
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| 04:10.56 | sportman | hey |
| 04:11.02 | sportman | im trying to install java on debian |
| 04:11.07 | sportman | i ran the .bin installer |
| 04:11.08 | shingouz | !java |
| 04:11.08 | dpkg | methinks java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 04:11.09 | LightVision | shingouz: when I type apt-get install clamav it says latest version! but when I run clamscam it says OLD version |
| 04:11.12 | sportman | and got this folder on desktop |
| 04:11.17 | hyperstream | is there a bittorrent console command line app in debian,that can run as a demon and have no output ? |
| 04:11.28 | LightVision | shingouz: WARNING: Local version: 0.86.2 Recommended version: 0.87 |
| 04:11.33 | sportman | but where do i put this folder |
| 04:11.38 | sportman | its called jre something |
| 04:11.40 | shingouz | LightVision: you still should get the latest signatures in anycase |
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| 04:11.45 | Guerin | hyperstream: bt*headless |
| 04:11.57 | prohna | does the installer set up kde or something? |
| 04:11.59 | shingouz | !tell sportman about java |
| 04:12.01 | LightVision | shingouz: it says: WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! |
| 04:12.04 | shingouz | !tell sportman about install java |
| 04:12.10 | woodland | how do i check if particular package is already installed on my system ? |
| 04:12.30 | shingouz | LightVision: do you get the latest signatures even with the warnings? |
| 04:12.34 | fisious | oops. this looks wrong... "firewall:/#mounts" presses enter gets "192.168.1.10:/Users/fisious/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music on /mnt type nfs (rw)" |
| 04:12.44 | fisious | mount* |
| 04:12.45 | shingouz | woodland: dpkg -L packagename |
| 04:12.52 | woodland | ok |
| 04:12.53 | LightVision | shingouz: what you mean? |
| 04:12.54 | kapil | woodland: dpkg -l 'packagename' |
| 04:13.04 | woodland | thanx kapil |
| 04:13.22 | woodland | kapil, can i use apt-cache for this purpose |
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| 04:13.34 | shingouz | LightVision: the virus signatures is what you want. the actual software that uses them is not that meaningful. do you get all the latest signatures? |
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| 04:13.54 | kofj | hi ,all ping dstorm.mine.nu and give me the ip, thanks,best regards :) |
| 04:13.59 | LightVision | shingouz: when I type dpkg -L clamscan it says package is NOT installed! YET I can run clamscan on my systen |
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| 04:14.14 | LightVision | shingouz: how do I get all the latest signatures? |
| 04:14.21 | fisious | how do i remove that from my mounts ? |
| 04:14.23 | prohna | does the installer set up kde or something? |
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| 04:14.36 | woodland | lghtvision, so can i use apt-cache to see if package is installed ? |
| 04:14.44 | kapil | woodland: not quite. but apt-cache policy 'packagename' will give you some info. |
| 04:14.56 | shingouz | LightVision: how did you install it in the first place? apt-get? |
| 04:15.00 | LightVision | dpkg -l 'packagename' always says packs not installed |
| 04:15.00 | dpkg | ii 'packagename' always says packs not installed 1.5-5 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 04:15.05 | LightVision | shingouz: yes |
| 04:15.29 | LightVision | cute bot ;) |
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| 04:15.42 | shingouz | LightVision: apt-cache search clamav, look for the proper name for the package |
| 04:15.51 | shingouz | !botsnack |
| 04:15.59 | kapil | LightVision: apt-get install clamav-freshclam and then run freshclam. |
| 04:16.16 | LightVision | shingouz: proper name is clamav |
| 04:16.22 | shingouz | wtf? botsnack does not work anymore? |
| 04:16.38 | LightVision | kapil: that says : clamav-freshclam is already the newest version. |
| 04:16.49 | llama32 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.53 | LightVision | kapil: but then when I run clamscan it says WARNING OLD version |
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| 04:17.02 | llama32 | as in from a C program |
| 04:17.04 | woodland | gcc --version |
| 04:17.19 | kapil | LightVision: you need to run freshclam to get the newer database. |
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| 04:17.44 | LightVision | kapil: and when I run freshclam it says: WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! |
| 04:17.51 | LightVision | kapil: did that |
| 04:18.07 | LightVision | kapil: and when I run freshclam it says: main.cvd is up to date (version: 34, sigs: 39625, f-level: 5, builder: tkojm) |
| 04:18.08 | LightVision | daily.cvd is up to date (version: 1084, sigs: 572, f-level: 6, builder: ccordes) |
| 04:18.23 | LightVision | kapil: BUT it also says: WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! |
| 04:18.39 | LightVision | kapil: weird eh? |
| 04:18.51 | woodland | hi kapil, i did 'dpkg -l kde' and it says Not/Installed but i have it installed |
| 04:18.53 | LightVision | kapil: it said WARNING: Local version: 0.86.2 Recommended version: 0.87 |
| 04:19.04 | shingouz | LightVision: looks like your signatures are up to date then. if that warning comes from the website you get the signatures from, disregard it |
| 04:19.08 | LightVision | woodland: yeah, it never reports properly |
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| 04:19.14 | woodland | yea, |
| 04:19.17 | LightVision | woodland: dont use 'dpkg -l' |
| 04:19.30 | diclophis | hello everyone |
| 04:19.32 | woodland | lightvision that's right, hurraaaayy |
| 04:19.37 | LightVision | shingouz: ok but latest version is 0.87 |
| 04:19.43 | diclophis | anyone know how to clear out exim's outgoing queue? |
| 04:19.45 | LightVision | shingouz: I hjad to download it manutally |
| 04:20.00 | LightVision | shingouz: so how do I now manually install clamav-0.87.tar.gz? |
| 04:20.04 | woodland | lightvision, so what should i use for checking if package is installed |
| 04:20.04 | kapil | LightVision: that explains it. Get version 0.87 then. By the way how did you get to 0.86.2. The current version on stable is 0.84. |
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| 04:20.14 | hyperstream | is there any xdcc irc scripts for linux ? |
| 04:20.27 | LightVision | kapil: i updated to 0,86.2 using apt-get |
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| 04:20.41 | shingouz | LightVision: read the readme on the source. and remember that you will screw up the package management when you install something from source |
| 04:20.43 | kofj | who can do me a favor ? ping dstorm.mine.nu , and show me the ip ,thanks........... |
| 04:20.47 | kapil | woodland: you need to know the package name. otherwise a regex for the package name. Try dpkg -l '*kde*' |
| 04:20.56 | shingouz | kofj: and why not ping it yourself? |
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| 04:21.01 | hyperstream | like a xdcc bot for linux |
| 04:21.06 | _quik_ | shingouz, initrd-tools errored on install |
| 04:21.07 | woodland | ok |
| 04:21.13 | kofj | shingouz: my ipc cut it |
| 04:21.18 | streuner | dpkg clamav sarge |
| 04:21.26 | kofj | shingouz: I can get the correct ip |
| 04:21.32 | LightVision | shingouz: screw up the package management? |
| 04:21.39 | shingouz | _quik: why are you seking me? |
| 04:21.46 | kofj | shingouz: my isp ,not ipc ,sorry |
| 04:22.01 | _quik_ | haha |
| 04:22.03 | shingouz | LightVision: yes. apt-get does not like to update the clamav after that |
| 04:22.06 | _quik_ | sorry shingouz |
| 04:22.12 | shingouz | asking dammit... |
| 04:22.19 | shingouz | grr.... i need caffeine |
| 04:22.59 | _quik_ | I can tell |
| 04:23.06 | LightVision | shingouz: ok |
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| 04:23.13 | LightVision | shingouz: and how can I install install zlib and zlib-devel packages? |
| 04:23.35 | shingouz | LightVision: with apt-get of course |
| 04:23.43 | kapil | LightVision: 'apt-cache search zlib' |
| 04:23.56 | LightVision | shingouz: when I type apt-get install install zlib, it says not found |
| 04:24.18 | shingouz | !tell LightVision about search |
| 04:25.16 | LightVision | shingouz: ok thanks |
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| 04:28.49 | GibsonPure | what device name and mount point do i use in fstab to mount my ipod? |
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| 04:29.05 | Guerin | eew, ipod |
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| 04:29.12 | Snow_ | NetWork Admin ? |
| 04:29.27 | GibsonPure | yes, i have full admin rights |
| 04:29.56 | Snow_ | Who is an Admin of this network ? |
| 04:29.57 | fisious | my nfs did a nice round of port spamming. |
| 04:30.14 | GibsonPure | what must i put into fstab to mount my ipod? |
| 04:30.24 | Guerin | !test |
| 04:30.25 | dpkg | Sorry, guerin, I didn't get your test. |
| 04:30.29 | Guerin | stupid bot |
| 04:30.48 | Guerin | can someone nmap hell.feayn.org |
| 04:30.49 | Guerin | ? |
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| 04:31.24 | GibsonPure | what device do i use to mount my ipod, im on 2.6.12 |
| 04:31.38 | Guerin | !repeat |
| 04:31.39 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 04:31.56 | Guerin | GibsonPure: if nobody's answering, it's a good indication that nobody knows |
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| 04:32.33 | GibsonPure | Guerin: in my past experiences sometimes ppl need time to think/take interest |
| 04:32.46 | salmenara | hello |
| 04:33.15 | salmenara | I have installed Debian for the first time... but I want to use sid |
| 04:33.21 | salmenara | how can I install it? |
| 04:33.44 | Guerin | salmenara: you don't want to use sid. |
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| 04:34.11 | salmenara | Guerin: why not? |
| 04:34.13 | Guerin | salmenara: sid is for debian developers and experienced testers; since it's your first use of debian, i suggest you stick to stable. |
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| 04:35.00 | salmenara | Guerin: It's my first time in Debian, not in Linux... and I want to have the last of the last (it's my home computer) |
| 04:35.12 | salmenara | Guerin: but thanks for your advice! |
| 04:35.32 | salmenara | Guerin: could you help me? |
| 04:35.33 | Guerin | salmenara: you get to figure out how to run sid for yourself; people don't tell you how. |
| 04:35.53 | salmenara | Guerin: I'll google around! |
| 04:35.56 | Guerin | !sid faq |
| 04:35.57 | dpkg | i heard sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 04:36.02 | Guerin | start there ^^ |
| 04:36.07 | poncho | Hello. |
| 04:36.13 | salmenara | Guerin: Thanks! |
| 04:36.22 | kapil_away | salmenara: try running etch. |
| 04:36.27 | salmenara | !sid faq |
| 04:36.27 | dpkg | hmm... sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 04:36.38 | LightVision | what file do I open and edit to change the default shell? |
| 04:36.58 | salmenara | Guerin: Can I use sax2 in Debian? |
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| 04:37.16 | streuner | salmenara: no |
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| 04:37.34 | salmenara | streuner: :( |
| 04:37.34 | kapil_away | salmenara: etch is the latest stuff that is Known To Work Sometimes (TM). |
| 04:37.49 | dannyp | how do I open a microsoft CAB file? |
| 04:38.04 | kapil_away | LightVision: "chsh" should do it. |
| 04:38.07 | zer0formds | wasnt gentoo the big OS where did this thing come from? |
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| 04:38.23 | salmenara | Guerin: Thanks a lot |
| 04:38.24 | salmenara | see you |
| 04:38.29 | salmenara | bye |
| 04:38.36 | LightVision | kapil_away: yes but I want to do it permantly |
| 04:38.44 | unix_infidel | hey guys. having problems with fstab. |
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| 04:38.51 | unix_infidel | //omega/music /mnt/music smbfs credentials=/home/superman/.smbpasswd,user 0 0 |
| 04:38.53 | dannyp | cabextract. got it |
| 04:38.55 | unix_infidel | line from fstab ^^^^^ |
| 04:39.02 | unix_infidel | $ mount /mnt/music/ |
| 04:39.02 | unix_infidel | cannot mount on /mnt/music: Operation not permitted |
| 04:39.02 | unix_infidel | smbmnt failed: 1 |
| 04:39.08 | kapil | LightVision: "chsh" *is* permanent. |
| 04:39.12 | unix_infidel | error msg ^^^^^ |
| 04:39.20 | LightVision | kapil: ah ok |
| 04:39.38 | kapil | LightVision: until you run "chsh" again of course :) |
| 04:40.01 | LightVision | kapil: I installed clamav-0.87_0.87-1_i386.deb, but clamscan still said to upgrade to 0.87 |
| 04:40.24 | unix_infidel | any ideas....some kinda permission errors? |
| 04:40.56 | kapil | LightVision: (note that I have absolutely no experience running clam so this is just a guess). You probably also want to get freshclam 0.87 |
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| 04:41.51 | kapil | LightVision: in other words keep your entire clam stuff in sync. |
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| 04:43.31 | unix_infidel | does anyone see a reason for the error above? |
| 04:43.37 | kapil | unix_infidel: what are the permissions on the directory /mnt/music? |
| 04:44.10 | unix_infidel | # ls -l /mnt/music/ |
| 04:44.10 | unix_infidel | total 0 |
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| 04:44.18 | Guerin | ... |
| 04:44.19 | LightVision | kapil: do you run linux aantivirus at all? |
| 04:44.29 | unix_infidel | kapil: ^^^^ |
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| 04:44.38 | kapil | unix_infidel: ls -ld /mnt/music |
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| 04:44.55 | unix_infidel | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-09-16 23:22 /mnt/music/ |
| 04:45.05 | unix_infidel | kapil: ^^^ |
| 04:45.08 | kapil | LightVision: actually...I confess...I do not. |
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| 04:46.34 | kapil | unix_infidel: permissions seem to be fine. |
| 04:46.56 | unix_infidel | kapil: i can mount it in /home/ via smb4k |
| 04:47.05 | unix_infidel | just not in /mnt/music/ |
| 04:47.19 | kapil | LightVision: I was basing my statements on what I have seen of automated installers of downloaded .tar.gz files. |
| 04:47.27 | unix_infidel | kapil: maybe issues with /usr/bin/smbmnt?? |
| 04:47.45 | unix_infidel | how do i change permissions on smbmnt to correctly have a user be able to use it. |
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| 04:48.19 | LightVision | kapil: okl, ty |
| 04:48.36 | kapil | unix_infidel: I don't think you should tinker with permissions set by the package maintainer unless you are sure you know what you are doing. |
| 04:48.40 | LightVision | kapil: im using Sarge, i dont need to worry about being affected by virus do I? |
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| 04:50.50 | unix_infidel | kapil: well, i get the same error when i try to do smbmount manually as a regular user. |
| 04:50.54 | unix_infidel | so i've narrowed it down to that. |
| 04:50.57 | kapil | LightVision: Wait a minute. I think clamav is a virus scanner for mail attachments. |
| 04:51.00 | Azar | LightVision, viruses no such a worry, penetration and rooting yes |
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| 04:51.58 | kapil | LightVision: I think it is mostly to protect the windows machines that you serve. |
| 04:52.10 | john | kapil: i just joined the convo, so im unsure if you mentioned this, but i do believe clamav is only for windows based viruses to scan offa linux machines to make sure they're not getting mailed. i |
| 04:52.15 | john | yeah nevermind :) haha |
| 04:52.34 | almsway | anyone familiar with the boot hang "usb-uhci.c: high bandwidth mode enabled" ? |
| 04:52.44 | Guerin | LightVision: not about windows viruses, no - and since there aren't any gnu/linux viruses in the wild that i'm aware of, you're safe from those, too. |
| 04:52.44 | Guerin | !test |
| 04:52.44 | dpkg | No, guerin, you're not online any more. |
| 04:52.52 | john | kapil: got any money? I recommend Debian/GNU Linux 3.1 Bible :) |
| 04:53.13 | mwilson | almsway: How is that a "boot hang"? |
| 04:53.21 | mwilson | almsway: That's a message from a driver. |
| 04:53.24 | almsway | I suppose I'm not exactly being accurate |
| 04:53.27 | Guerin | woah, laggage |
| 04:53.31 | xixor | i suppose |
| 04:53.34 | almsway | has anyone ever dealt with a boot hanging on... |
| 04:53.48 | almsway | i'm trying to get 3.1 up on my laptop |
| 04:54.01 | kapil | john: someone mentioned "pay" around here recently. That would get me enough money to buy the book. |
| 04:54.12 | lakcaj | almsway, have you tried booting with linux26 at the first prompt? |
| 04:54.17 | Azar | almsway a boot hanging means a driver is not found, or not working properly at boot up |
| 04:54.33 | john | kapil: "pay"? |
| 04:54.34 | almsway | I figured as much, but I'm still a relative newb and I'm not sure how to bypass it |
| 04:54.40 | almsway | I've never tried that boot param |
| 04:55.00 | almsway | do you mean through grub with the linux26? |
| 04:55.24 | lakcaj | almsway, sorry, I thought you were in the initial install phase. Are you using a 2.6 series kernel? |
| 04:55.25 | Azar | almsway reboot in console mode and watch the process, it will tell you what is going on |
| 04:55.43 | almsway | okay |
| 04:55.49 | almsway | I'll give that a shot |
| 04:56.14 | beidon | what's going on? it sounds like evil base something |
| 04:56.24 | kapil | almsway: try booting with "nousb". That's the sledgehammer that ought to do it. |
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| 04:57.23 | Dullindal | hello! |
| 04:57.31 | almsway | sounds perfect actually |
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| 04:57.51 | Dullindal | I have installed grub (apt-get install grub) |
| 04:58.08 | dannyp | so I'm sniffing HTTP traffic |
| 04:58.17 | Dullindal | Tried to install it with grub-install... but it says it can find menu.lst |
| 04:58.22 | dannyp | and I've saved a request and a response |
| 04:58.26 | kapil | dannyp: hope it smells nice. |
| 04:58.33 | Dullindal | how can grub-install generate a menu.lst file? |
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| 04:58.54 | dannyp | it comes back with a mime content-type and then data... what's the easiest way to extract that data? |
| 04:59.59 | liable | Dullindal: you have lilo and now you want grub? or you re-installed grub? |
| 05:00.05 | tcsetattr | the data is the part after the headers. |
| 05:00.20 | kapil | Dullindal: run update-grub |
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| 05:00.28 | almsway | Kapil: do you mind if I pm you? |
| 05:00.50 | mernil | *i'm only here cuz i'm banned in #slackware ;) |
| 05:01.11 | mernil | but debian is a great distro! |
| 05:01.18 | Guerin | ... |
| 05:01.36 | dannyp | tcsetattr: yes, but in the case where it's mime data of the type, say, application/octet-stream, I need a way to actually save it. The easiest way that's come to mind so far would be to make a PHP script that essentially serves it up |
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| 05:01.41 | dannyp | but surely there's an easier way |
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| 05:01.47 | kapil | almsway: (1) I can't be reached "direct" (2) maybe you want more eyes to make your bugs shallow. |
| 05:01.57 | dannyp | something like uudecode, but for mime |
| 05:02.00 | almsway | cool |
| 05:02.08 | almsway | well, I just hate sounding like a moron publicly |
| 05:02.49 | almsway | what command do I use with the nousb option you mentioned? |
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| 05:03.19 | tcsetattr | dannyp, application/octet-stream means nothing. literally it tells you nothing about the data at all. |
| 05:03.20 | kapil | almsway: you give the "nosub" as a kernel parameter while booting. |
| 05:03.44 | almsway | okay, that's what I thought, what else do I specify in that command? |
| 05:04.07 | dannyp | tcsetattr: right. but the data currently has an ASCII representation |
| 05:04.17 | kapil | alsway: that way you prevent usb from starting up. Of course, this can be a serious problem if some critical device is usb. |
| 05:04.21 | dannyp | and I'm trying to save it |
| 05:04.28 | tcsetattr | dannyp, maybe you need to look at the Content-Transfer-Encoding header then. |
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| 05:05.12 | kapil | almsway: (sorry for the sp.) later once you have booted the system try to disable the uhci module. |
| 05:05.14 | dannyp | hmm. it didn't send the header. |
| 05:05.16 | dannyp | err |
| 05:05.22 | dannyp | send the content-transfer-encoding field in the header |
| 05:05.28 | llama32 | i need a small example of a multi-client server, something that shows how to simultaneously wait for new connections and wait for data from existing ones, preferably less than 1000 lines... anyone? |
| 05:05.36 | kapil | almsway: also as someone suggested. perhaps 2.6 will support your USB better. |
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| 05:05.48 | jr_astig01 | hi |
| 05:06.02 | almsway | kapil: Thanks for the help. I think I need to read a grub tutorial |
| 05:06.12 | LightVision | Guerin: sounds good :) |
| 05:06.23 | jr_astig01 | hi |
| 05:06.43 | almsway | I don't know how to specify my kernel |
| 05:07.12 | liable | almsway: append it to the end of your kernel line, press e when grub comes up |
| 05:07.17 | mernil | almsway: yeah.. you should always consult the manual before asking questions! |
| 05:07.17 | nvz | dropped my pop on da concreek now I cant open it :P |
| 05:07.51 | almsway | that's where I am |
| 05:07.54 | tcsetattr | dannyp, what are you using to grab data and what makes you think it needs decoding then? |
| 05:08.05 | almsway | I'm trying to specify root, but it won't accept anything I enter |
| 05:08.15 | kapil | almsway: you cannot specify kernel 2.6 unless you installed it! |
| 05:08.38 | Azar | specify root? what do you mean? |
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| 05:08.58 | almsway | i'm at grub command prompt |
| 05:09.05 | mernil | to specify the kernel is a breeze.. just point grub to the correct file |
| 05:09.12 | almsway | I want to boot, it says I need a kernel |
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| 05:09.30 | almsway | I want a kernel, it says I need path |
| 05:09.33 | dannyp | tcsetattr: I'm using ethereal to sniff the packet, and it's displaying and saving it for me as ASCII representation of the data |
| 05:09.34 | kapil | almsway: type esc and see if you get a menu. |
| 05:09.34 | Azar | ah editing the grub file |
| 05:09.37 | liable | almsway: you dont want a promt, you just want to edit the kernel line.. |
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| 05:09.54 | almsway | cool |
| 05:10.01 | dannyp | I suppose THAT is what I'm trying to undo. and I just had a "well, duh" moment and am realizing that I haven't saved the exact content of the packet |
| 05:10.06 | almsway | esc doesn't work, but I'll reboot |
| 05:10.07 | tcsetattr | dannyp, you mean as a hexdump? |
| 05:10.28 | almsway | aha, e not c silly me |
| 05:10.28 | dannyp | I was saving it as an ASCII dump. totally just saw the radio buttons now, and see where "raw" dump is ;) |
| 05:10.32 | tcsetattr | dannyp, it'll be much easier if you do a raw capture instead of a hex dump :) see tcpick, or tcpdump -w |
| 05:10.33 | kapil | almsway: reboot---that you can do from the grub prompt. |
| 05:10.44 | LightVision | how can you play MIDI files? |
| 05:11.04 | tcsetattr | apt-get install playmidi ? |
| 05:11.11 | dannyp | tcsetattr: yes, yes, I've realized :) |
| 05:11.25 | kapil | LightVision: apt-get install timidity may be better if you don't have a midi card. |
| 05:11.25 | dannyp | well it's doing raw capture and I was, at the "last step," so to speak, making an ASCII dump of it |
| 05:11.30 | dannyp | which obviously isn't what I wanted |
| 05:11.36 | lakcaj | LightVision, playmidi, pmidi |
| 05:11.44 | LightVision | ok thanks :) |
| 05:11.47 | almsway | okay, I'm there, and I've appended nousb to the end of my kernel string |
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| 05:12.13 | dannyp | tcsetattr: perhaps the fundamental problem is that I'm spending my friday doing rseearch instead of relaxing |
| 05:12.23 | almsway | i'm attempting to boot |
| 05:12.38 | lakcaj | LightVision, for future reference, apt-cache search midi | grep midi would have found all these solutions. |
| 05:12.53 | LightVision | lakcaj: ok thanks. noted |
| 05:13.37 | almsway | now I'm hung on usb.c: registered new driver hub |
| 05:14.30 | kapil | almsway: so the nousb clearly did not work! Sorry about that. |
| 05:15.03 | kapil | almsway: by the way is this linux kernel version 2.4 or 2.6? |
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| 05:15.30 | almsway | 2.4 |
| 05:15.32 | almsway | =( |
| 05:15.51 | derek[] | Hello! |
| 05:16.04 | Azar | almsway when did you installed Debian and what distro is? Woody? Sarge? |
| 05:16.24 | derek[] | after downloading the 100 MB minimal install.. how much more data will be downloaded during the net-install, anyone knows? |
| 05:16.30 | almsway | I got the isos today |
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| 05:16.41 | Manoj` | shit. my laptop display just went black |
| 05:16.47 | nkuttler | derek[]: depends on what you choose to install |
| 05:16.47 | Azar | almsway, the CDs? Sarge? |
| 05:17.01 | almsway | not sure, just a sec |
| 05:17.11 | derek[] | nkuttler, what do I need for the minimum? |
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| 05:17.20 | derek[] | or how much ? |
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| 05:17.47 | nkuttler | derek[]: nobody can answer that question but you |
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| 05:17.54 | almsway | wow, I'm such a newb. |
| 05:17.54 | jr_astig01 | hello |
| 05:18.03 | xixor | bonjour |
| 05:18.09 | kapil | almsway: i think the CD's should have a 2.6 kernel available. |
| 05:18.10 | almsway | i don't know which |
| 05:18.16 | derek[] | well I don't know linux much |
| 05:18.28 | Azar | version 3.0 or version 3.1, almsway? |
| 05:18.28 | derek[] | I'm a graphic designer, going to migrate to linux |
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| 05:18.48 | nkuttler | derek[]: if you install gnome or kde a few 100 MB i guess |
| 05:18.49 | derek[] | I'll be using gimp, inkscape and blender in linux mostly |
| 05:19.02 | derek[] | nkuttler, I don't need gnome or kde |
| 05:19.08 | derek[] | I'll use fluxbox |
| 05:19.08 | Guerin | derek[]: somewhere between 500MB and a gig depending on what you need |
| 05:19.12 | derek[] | or pek |
| 05:19.17 | Guerin | derek[]: oh, somewhere less than 500MB then |
| 05:19.22 | derek[] | cool |
| 05:19.23 | nkuttler | derek[]: you thing that you don't need them, those apps will pull in their libs |
| 05:19.46 | derek[] | whose libs? |
| 05:19.54 | nkuttler | derek[]: just install... |
| 05:20.20 | derek[] | and how large is xfce? |
| 05:20.30 | nkuttler | derek[]: apt-cache show packagename |
| 05:20.49 | Azar | almsway you will have some hard reading to do then try to install again when you feel more familiar with Debian: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html and http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ |
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| 05:21.04 | derek[] | nkuttler, and do that where? |
| 05:21.33 | nkuttler | derek[]: look, if 500MB are no problem for you you don't have to worry |
| 05:21.47 | kapil | almsway: you could check one of the "live" CD's. |
| 05:21.56 | nkuttler | derek[]: in a shell |
| 05:22.08 | nkuttler | !tell derek[] about faq |
| 05:22.10 | kapil | almsway: that would point to your hardware problems. |
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| 05:22.57 | unix_infidel | kapil: ok, so i got A LOT of my samba problems resolved. |
| 05:23.07 | derek[] | 500 MB |
| 05:23.12 | unix_infidel | i even went as far as to test it out to see if it would mount in a dir owned by my user. |
| 05:23.19 | derek[] | what do you guys say about ubuntu? |
| 05:23.28 | derek[] | its debian based |
| 05:23.30 | unix_infidel | it worked, but NOWW, it wont mount as a normal user in the /mnt/music dir. |
| 05:23.30 | nkuttler | !ubuntu |
| 05:23.31 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian> |
| 05:23.33 | deadcat | derek[]: 2 rooms down the hall |
| 05:23.42 | kapil | unix_infidel: great. tell me more. |
| 05:24.01 | unix_infidel | it wont mount as normal user in /mnt/music |
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| 05:24.18 | unix_infidel | nor can i just do mount /mnt/music as a normal user using the fstab entry. |
| 05:24.19 | kapil | unix_infidel: in other words it works if you try it as root but not as a regular user? |
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| 05:24.36 | unix_infidel | kapil: it works a both a normal users and root |
| 05:24.37 | derek[] | well, how much debian is ubuntu? |
| 05:24.48 | unix_infidel | but it only work as a normal user when i moun it on /home/username |
| 05:24.54 | unix_infidel | again the fstab entry is //omega/music /mnt/music smbfs credentials=/home/superman/.smbpasswd,user 0 0 |
| 05:25.11 | unix_infidel | $ mount /mnt/music/ |
| 05:25.11 | unix_infidel | cannot mount on /mnt/music: Operation not permitted |
| 05:25.11 | unix_infidel | smbmnt failed: 1 |
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| 05:25.26 | derek[] | "Boss: Ubububtoo Huh?? ...you're fired!" |
| 05:25.27 | almsway | kapil: sorry about that, damned gf called |
| 05:25.28 | derek[] | lol |
| 05:25.47 | nkuttler | almsway: aw, we're sorry for you |
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| 05:26.25 | almsway | heh. |
| 05:26.34 | almsway | so... the 2.6 kernel, eh? |
| 05:27.00 | kapil | unix_infidel: still trying to understand. anyone can mount on /home/username but only root can mount on /mnt/music? |
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| 05:27.14 | unix_infidel | kapil: yes. |
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| 05:27.40 | almsway | azar: I think you're right about reading up |
| 05:27.45 | kapil | unix_infidel: what is the output of 'cat /proc/mounts' or 'mount' |
| 05:27.47 | chickboiec | i have question ? |
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| 05:27.53 | chickboiec | how can i install winex |
| 05:27.58 | chickboiec | wineX |
| 05:28.02 | almsway | mandrake was so simple, but debian is not so dumbed down |
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| 05:28.10 | larrikin | does anyone happen to know when the libata/ata_piix driver modules began to support pata on an ICH6 chipset (IDE controller 8086:266f) ? |
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| 05:28.24 | nkuttler | chickboiec: get it from their website? |
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| 05:28.34 | unix_infidel | kapil: nothing that mentions samba. |
| 05:28.36 | looneybird_77590 | Help! I was editing "xf866config-4" I did something wrong. Already tried " dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 " (nvidia) didnt work. stuck on command prompt. |
| 05:29.00 | kapil | chickboiec: apt-get install xwine perhaps. |
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| 05:29.19 | kapil | unix_infidel: but something that mentions /mnt perhaps. |
| 05:29.20 | chickboiec | how 2 dat?? |
| 05:29.24 | shingouz | !tell looneybird_77590 about xmd5 |
| 05:29.26 | nkuttler | kapil: xwine != winex |
| 05:29.31 | chickboiec | how 2 do dat can u msg me |
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| 05:29.43 | unix_infidel | /dev/hda3 /mnt/shared vfat rw,nodiratime,nosuid,nodev,noexec,fmask=0000,dmask=00 |
| 05:29.44 | dannyp | wow, that's obnoxious |
| 05:29.46 | derek[] | kapil, where in India are you? |
| 05:29.46 | nkuttler | chickboiec: apt-cache search pattern; apt-get install package |
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| 05:29.49 | unix_infidel | that's an excample from there. |
| 05:29.51 | nkuttler | chickboiec: /msg dpkg faq |
| 05:29.52 | ngmlinux | anyone know any good sites that explain how to write Java (or C) programs that can read and right to serial ports? |
| 05:30.07 | kapil | nkuttler, chickboiec: sorry. thought they were the same! |
| 05:30.25 | almsway | is nopci not the grub kernel option to side step hotplug pci subsystem? |
| 05:30.26 | kapil | derek[]: chennai. |
| 05:30.37 | derek[] | ok |
| 05:30.47 | derek[] | too far away |
| 05:30.53 | unix_infidel | :P |
| 05:30.55 | looneybird_77590 | xmd5 ? |
| 05:31.01 | derek[] | I needed to buy debian CDs |
| 05:31.07 | shingouz | looneybird_77590: read what dpkg told you |
| 05:31.11 | Azar | looneybird_77590 : If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated again, run the following commands as root: cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >/var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum |
| 05:31.16 | kapil | derek[]: how far away is far away? |
| 05:31.30 | chickboiec | anybody use ubuntu??? |
| 05:31.37 | derek[] | kapil, Bhopal city, MP |
| 05:31.38 | shingouz | !polls |
| 05:31.38 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 05:31.38 | unix_infidel | heh, jungle land in the center :P |
| 05:31.45 | ngmlinux | i use ubuntu |
| 05:31.51 | shingouz | !tell chickboiec about ubuntu |
| 05:32.04 | LightVision | kapil: fyi, i installed timidity and its NOT a midi player |
| 05:32.05 | ngmlinux | it's tough to use ubuntu at first |
| 05:32.05 | john | Anybody else get their hands on the debian/gnu linux 3.1 bible yet? |
| 05:32.13 | ngmlinux | same with debian |
| 05:32.21 | ngmlinux | because you have to learn the sudo stuff |
| 05:32.22 | chickboiec | @ngm - were u able to run wineX? |
| 05:32.24 | Azar | john, no need there is free documentation online |
| 05:32.24 | chickboiec | or wine |
| 05:32.37 | ngmlinux | haven't tried chickboiec, sorry |
| 05:32.39 | nkuttler | ngmlinux: wow, that's hard |
| 05:32.47 | john | Azar: that is true.. but it's still nice to have a book at your disposal. |
| 05:32.52 | JoshH | Azar: some people prefer reading actual paper instead of staring at a monitor. |
| 05:32.53 | ngmlinux | nkuttler not really but anoying at fist |
| 05:32.55 | kapil | LightVision: timidity - Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player) |
| 05:32.55 | ngmlinux | first |
| 05:33.04 | Azar | that for printers are |
| 05:33.07 | kapil | LightVision: it plays midis for me. |
| 05:33.10 | shingouz | chickboiec: two things. do not use the @ when you speak to people, it is a bot trigger. second. this is not #ubuntu, join #ubuntu for support |
| 05:33.12 | LightVision | kapil: it doesnt play midi files, only converts them |
| 05:33.17 | chickboiec | ok |
| 05:33.24 | chickboiec | sorry man |
| 05:33.38 | JoshH | Azar: would you rather read a novel online/print it, or have a nice book? |
| 05:33.55 | Azar | JoshH you are right |
| 05:34.14 | JoshH | online docs are fine and all, but i could still see the benefits of a book |
| 05:34.20 | kapil | LightVision: you do need a sound card to "play" the output. But once there is one it should work fine. |
| 05:34.25 | JoshH | i would much rather read programming books on paper than online |
| 05:34.35 | kapil | LightVision: check for the output device. |
| 05:34.41 | JoshH | besides, most of the online docs for debian suck. :P |
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| 05:34.48 | LightVision | kapil: it wants to open /dev/sequencer! |
| 05:34.49 | JoshH | the official ones anyway |
| 05:34.53 | grubber | I have installed grub |
| 05:35.06 | shingouz | excellent |
| 05:35.09 | LightVision | kapil: I have a sound card, i could always play midi in XP |
| 05:35.38 | grubber | how can I configure the system so when I update the kernel-images, it updates the menu.lst and not lilo.conf ? |
| 05:35.39 | kapil | LightVision: why would it want to open /dev/sequencer? Puzzled. what is your command line for timidity? |
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| 05:36.06 | LightVision | kapil: I typed "timidity mus1.midi" |
| 05:36.07 | shingouz | grubber: do you have lilo on your computer? |
| 05:36.08 | Azar | LightVision I am an .mod fan , midi also can be listened with xmms with right midi plugins |
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| 05:36.19 | LightVision | Azar: Ok |
| 05:36.45 | grubber | shingouz: I don't have lilo installed, but apt-get tell me to re-run lilo after a kernel upgrade |
| 05:36.47 | tcsetattr | you need to use the appropriate -O option to timidity to select an output device. |
| 05:36.59 | grubber | shingouz: I don't want that! |
| 05:37.04 | LightVision | Azar: whats the command to install midi support for xmms? |
| 05:37.27 | kapil | LightVision: still puzzled. is this a default 'apt-get install timidity'? |
| 05:37.34 | shingouz | grubber: it *should* work on the grub configs... have you had lilo on the computer before? |
| 05:38.02 | grubber | shingouz: fresh install... never have lilo |
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| 05:38.20 | LightVision | kapil: yes |
| 05:38.31 | kapil | LightVision: what is your sound device? alsa? OSS? |
| 05:38.40 | cantona | can I have kernel manual? eg. man put_user |
| 05:38.41 | shingouz | grubber: see if you even have the lilo.conf there, you should also check the config for grub is it looks like it should |
| 05:38.47 | LightVision | tcsetattr: how would you know the appropriate -O option? |
| 05:38.58 | LightVision | kapil: how can I tell? |
| 05:39.15 | shingouz | s/is/if |
| 05:39.21 | kapil | LightVision: check for /proc/asound. If it exists then it is alsa. |
| 05:39.27 | tcsetattr | LightVision, you know the appropriate -O option by reading the man page |
| 05:39.52 | grubber | shingouz: Comparing to a old Ubuntu installation... I should add 2 lines about running update-grub |
| 05:39.57 | grubber | thanks |
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| 05:40.11 | tcsetattr | cantona, there were section 9 man pages documenting kernel functions long ago, but they're way obsolete now. The only up to date documentation is in the kernel source code, and occasionally in the Documentation directory of the kernel tarball |
| 05:40.29 | tcsetattr | cantona, put_user copies data from kernel memory to user process memory |
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| 05:41.25 | cantona | tcsetattr: the first parameter is kernel memory, and second is user process memory? |
| 05:41.29 | LightVision | kapil: I have no /proc/asound |
| 05:41.58 | LightVision | Azar: i searched xmms cache and no midi support |
| 05:42.44 | almsway | is there a way to specify the 2.6 kernel with the sarge installation? |
| 05:42.56 | almsway | I mean to say, when you're installing |
| 05:43.12 | almsway | ah |
| 05:43.18 | shingouz | almsway: when you boot the installer, hit F2, F3, F4 etc and read what they say |
| 05:43.38 | almsway | thank you. I apologize for my newpidness |
| 05:43.43 | shingouz | :) |
| 05:44.00 | tcsetattr | cantona, try reading the code to figure it out. As far as I can tell, the first arg is a value that is put directly into the userspace memory address pointed to by the second argument. put_user() only copies a single integer-sized value. But beware, this is the type of thing that gets redesigned every few years, so it'll be different in different kernel generations |
| 05:44.09 | kapil | LightVision: did you manage to generate a wav file out of the midi file? |
| 05:45.09 | cantona | tcsetattr: i see, thanks |
| 05:45.42 | LightVision | kapil: im trying that now! trying to convert it! just trying to figure out what command and switches to use :P |
| 05:46.22 | kapil | LightVision: at least 'timidity -Ow -o out.wav mus1.mid' should work without a problem. |
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| 05:46.37 | LightVision | kapil: hmm now it says: timidity: Can't read any configuration file. |
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| 05:47.51 | Azar | LightVision: http://www.xmms.org/effect.php |
| 05:48.08 | LightVision | kapil: weird eh? no configuratin file |
| 05:48.17 | Azar | LightVision assuming you are running alsa, and xmms player.. |
| 05:48.32 | almsway | Just out of curiousity, how many here run dual-boot systems? |
| 05:48.35 | kapil | LightVision: mystery deepens. ls -l /etc/timidity |
| 05:48.45 | LightVision | Azar: thanks, but it says: $10.00/plugin |
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| 05:48.55 | dannyp | almsway: as of yesterday, me. Dual boot freebsd and debian |
| 05:49.02 | Azar | LightVision maybe is something new, I got them free |
| 05:49.06 | almsway | cool. |
| 05:49.09 | LightVision | kapil: it said: 781 2005-01-23 10:42 timidity.cfg |
| 05:49.15 | shingouz | almsway: please do not poll here, 600+ people in the channel and if everyone answered your question... mayhem results |
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| 05:49.29 | almsway | heh |
| 05:49.31 | almsway | good point |
| 05:49.35 | LightVision | kapil: weird eh? configuratin file exists, but it says it doesnt :P |
| 05:49.52 | kapil | LightVision: type -path timidity |
| 05:49.54 | shingouz | ...not that this channel is not mayhem already...... |
| 05:50.14 | kapil | LightVision: to make sure that there is no old timidity hanging around. |
| 05:50.16 | LightVision | kapil: -path: command not found |
| 05:50.25 | almsway | allright, so the 2.6 kernel disliked my usb as much as the 2.4 |
| 05:50.35 | kapil | LightVision: no. no. the command is 'type -path timidity' |
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| 05:50.47 | Azar | almsway, better start reading from the links I gave you then come back with questions when you are done |
| 05:50.52 | shingouz | almsway: what happened? |
| 05:51.00 | LightVision | kapil: heeh ok :P |
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| 05:51.12 | LightVision | kapil: /usr/bin/timidity |
| 05:51.14 | almsway | Azar: good point |
| 05:51.29 | Azar | almsway obviously you have not performed a correct installation and your usb is not correctly read by the system |
| 05:51.33 | kapil | LightVision: also I hope you installed freepats. timidity won't work with that. |
| 05:51.38 | Azar | read, learn and reinstall |
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| 05:51.45 | LightVision | kapil: what? |
| 05:51.50 | kapil | LightVision: also I hope you installed freepats. timidity won't work without that. |
| 05:51.57 | almsway | azar: I will, I was just hoping to bypass it and get the system going without |
| 05:52.05 | dannyp | anyone have specific advice for how to get a computer infected with adware/spyware? |
| 05:52.16 | LightVision | kapil: whats freepats? |
| 05:52.24 | Azar | almsway, debian requires patience, study and discipline, this is not mandrake |
| 05:52.26 | almsway | shingouz: not a clue, I think it's a wetware issue |
| 05:52.30 | shingouz | almsway: also, lsmod and see if you have the usb modules in the kernel in the first place |
| 05:52.52 | almsway | all, thanks all. Back to the manuals |
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| 05:53.14 | kapil | LightVision: Midi files depend on "instrument patches" or "sound fonts". You need to have those to play midi files. |
| 05:53.24 | shingouz | almsway: in that case, get some programming fluid and lubricate the wetware. install some treeware and reconfigure/reinstall the software :p |
| 05:53.45 | LightVision | kapil: installing freepats now |
| 05:54.02 | almsway | heh. no joke. I think my system might need a reboot though, it's been running full on for about twenty hours now |
| 05:54.18 | kapil | LightVision: 'apt-get install freepats' will install some rudimentary patches. |
| 05:54.19 | tcsetattr | dannyp, go porn surfing with Micros~1 Internet Exploder, that'll get you infected pretty quick. |
| 05:54.26 | LightVision | kapil: installing freepats now |
| 05:54.27 | shingouz | almsway: reboot? why? uptimes in excess of a few years is normal on linux |
| 05:54.30 | dannyp | tcsetattr: it's really a bit harder than it sounds |
| 05:54.33 | dannyp | I've been doing it |
| 05:54.35 | tcsetattr | you have to be running Windoze of course. |
| 05:54.40 | LightVision | shingouz: really? years? |
| 05:54.45 | almsway | shingouz: sorry, it was a bad joke. I was referring to my wetware system |
| 05:54.49 | shingouz | LightVision: that happens |
| 05:54.53 | almsway | shingouzL i.e. me |
| 05:54.55 | dannyp | tcsetattr: don't worry, I installed debian last night so I could run windows (vmware) |
| 05:54.56 | LightVision | shingouz: wow, amazing |
| 05:55.06 | shingouz | almsway: oh. a short downtime should help that a bit |
| 05:55.19 | kapil | LightVision: To get better instrument sounds look for sound fonts on the lilypond site. |
| 05:55.19 | almsway | =) |
| 05:55.22 | LightVision | dannyp: how much did vmware cost you? |
| 05:55.22 | Azar | whatever this message on xmms site means? : Hello Debian and Debian users Want to rant about mp3patents? Sure, 2002 called and want their august news back. We love everyone. |
| 05:55.30 | LightVision | kapil: ok |
| 05:55.32 | dannyp | LightVision: trial license, nothing |
| 05:55.43 | shingouz | LightVision: reboots are needed when you upgrade the kernel or hardware (unless you have hotpluggable hardware that is) |
| 05:55.44 | dannyp | I'm using it for academic purposes so if I need it beyond 30 days I can get it fairly cheaply |
| 05:55.48 | almsway | thanks again kapil, shingouz, azar |
| 05:55.49 | LightVision | dannyp: where can you get it for Sarge? |
| 05:55.53 | shingouz | np |
| 05:55.56 | dannyp | LightVision: I just got it from vmware.com |
| 05:55.58 | LightVision | shingouz: makes sense |
| 05:56.14 | LightVision | dannyp: ok, and how lon is your trial? |
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| 05:56.41 | tcsetattr | dannyp, also install as many shareware file-sharing programs as possible... then search the file-sharing nets for .exe, .com, and other executable suffixes |
| 05:56.43 | LightVision | dannyp: 30 dats ok |
| 05:56.54 | dannyp | ooh, good call tcsetattr |
| 05:57.01 | thorie | hi, my computer has been locking up lately and i think it's a hardware problem - what kind of diagnosis tools can i run for debian for memory, hard disk drive (s.m.a.r.t?), cpu, etc to help me determine the problem? |
| 05:57.11 | dannyp | this is actually some of the most amusing research I've done |
| 05:57.15 | LightVision | thorie: check memory |
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| 05:57.24 | dannyp | you get to download and click all sorts of random and irresponsible links and things |
| 05:57.32 | thorie | bash: check: command not found |
| 05:57.35 | tcsetattr | they'll be named things like "1000 Cracked Game Serial Numbers.txt<100 spaces>.exe" |
| 05:58.04 | kapil | thorie: try to run memtest. |
| 05:58.06 | shingouz | thorie: memtest86, crashme, smartmontools |
| 05:58.30 | thorie | cool |
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| 05:58.40 | concept10 | I need help on accomplishing something: How do I start a process over ssh on my server and log out and still have it running? When I close the terminal, the process stops... |
| 05:59.03 | dannyp | concept10: screen is the preferred way to do that (as you can reattach it later) but nohup will work |
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| 05:59.48 | concept10 | dannyp: what is screen and how do you do that? |
| 06:00.13 | shingouz | concept10: install screen |
| 06:00.31 | tcsetattr | log in to your server. apt-get install screen. then type "screen". Do whatever you want. If your terminal window dies, ssh to the server again and type "screen -r" and you'll be right back where you were, nothing lost! |
| 06:01.33 | looneybird_77590 | puttin my waterwaders on here think i am in deep shit. the commands didnt work, |
| 06:02.08 | concept10 | dannyp: tcsetattr shingouz: thanks for the suggestion |
| 06:02.12 | shingouz | looneybird_77590: and the commands were? |
| 06:02.14 | tcsetattr | and that's just the tip of the screen iceberg. It does much other cool stuff. |
| 06:02.55 | looneybird_77590 | what u show me in dpkg |
| 06:03.33 | shingouz | looneybird_77590: so i should scroll up umpteen lines to see what happened? i love the idea |
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| 06:03.50 | nkuttler | shingouz: ever heard about lastlog? |
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| 06:04.03 | shingouz | nkuttler: yes. but i am lazy :p |
| 06:04.05 | tcsetattr | I don't even have that much scrollback, nor do I remember seeing him before |
| 06:04.13 | tcsetattr | *** Current value of LASTLOG is 100 |
| 06:04.16 | concept10 | screen has the longest man page EVAR |
| 06:04.20 | nkuttler | don't nvidias do vesa? |
| 06:04.27 | shingouz | looneybird_77590: which command "didn't work" and what happened when it "didn't work"? |
| 06:04.33 | f0rt3hm3h | when booting i get a "/sbin/init:432:cannot open dev/console: No such file" error, what should i do? |
| 06:04.48 | shingouz | concept10: mplayer is bad too... ;) |
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| 06:05.13 | kapil | concept10: for once (with screen) you don't *have* to start with the man page. Just remember 'screen -r'. |
| 06:05.26 | shingouz | nkuttler: they should do. nv should work as well but you do not get 3d accel |
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| 06:06.20 | f0rt3hm3h | when booting i get a "/sbin/init:432:cannot open dev/console: No such file" error, what should i do? |
| 06:06.24 | nkuttler | looneybird_77590: use nv oder vesa as x drivers for a start |
| 06:06.58 | concept10 | Im about to get streamripper running on my server and rip the entire world |
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| 06:07.49 | f0rt3hm3h | can anyone here help me? |
| 06:07.53 | cat | try asking |
| 06:07.53 | LightVision | dannyp: im using Debian Sarge, should I download the VMware Workstation 5.0? |
| 06:08.01 | dannyp | f0rt3hm3h: no, sorry. try #linpeople |
| 06:08.11 | shingouz | f0rt3hm3h: custom kernel? |
| 06:08.16 | Guerin | LightVision: i thought you were using mepis? |
| 06:08.20 | f0rt3hm3h | shingouz: yeah |
| 06:08.24 | dannyp | f0rt3hm3h: that was an attempt at humor, given that you didn't ask the question. |
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| 06:08.41 | LightVision | Guerin: no no no! i USED to use mepis, now I use Sarge for about 3 weeks now |
| 06:08.44 | f0rt3hm3h | dannyp: i did twice.... |
| 06:08.47 | Guerin | oh |
| 06:08.47 | shingouz | f0rt3hm3h: reconfigure, recompile, reinstall or install a debian kernel (like you really should do) |
| 06:08.56 | LightVision | Guerin: however, I still have mepis on my older computer in the other room :) |
| 06:08.59 | dannyp | f0rt3hm3h: oh. So I'm just an idiot AND a smartass |
| 06:09.03 | dannyp | hope that provides you some comfort |
| 06:09.07 | LightVision | Guerin: but I only use Sarge now |
| 06:09.11 | HyperStream | Guerin, stilling trying to get a headless torrent client |
| 06:09.14 | HyperStream | any suggestions |
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| 06:09.36 | LightVision | Guerin: may I suggest you ear more vegies to enhance your memory ;) |
| 06:09.37 | f0rt3hm3h | shingouz: when i downloaded and installed a kernel 2.6.8 from debia.org, i get the same error... |
| 06:09.37 | cat | HyperStream: qtorrent |
| 06:09.38 | aire | are there any free alternatives to VMWare? |
| 06:09.44 | LightVision | Guerin: ear = eat :P |
| 06:09.54 | HyperStream | cat: does it have any console output ? can it run as a deamon?? |
| 06:09.56 | f0rt3hm3h | shingouz:debian.org* |
| 06:10.03 | john | f0rt3hm3h: i checked google.com/linux for similar problems, and somebody posted this |
| 06:10.05 | nkuttler | aire: qemu? |
| 06:10.06 | looneybird_77590 | tried 2 times md5sum /ect/x11/xf86config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/xf86config-4.md5sum got: /ect/x11/xf86config-4: no such file or directory |
| 06:10.08 | john | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.09 | dannyp | aire: qemu, xen |
| 06:10.11 | Guerin | HyperStream: why can't you .. and why headless? |
| 06:10.12 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: Maybe you don't have a /dev/console?! |
| 06:10.14 | aire | oo ok thanks guys |
| 06:10.18 | john | so you may want to check that out |
| 06:10.24 | shingouz | f0rt3hm3h: i find that hard to believe. apt-get install kernel-image-whateveryoulike should do it |
| 06:10.25 | dannyp | neither is as featureful as vmware |
| 06:10.28 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: then why is kernel 2.4.27 booting fine? |
| 06:10.32 | HyperStream | Guerin, its for my server in auckland |
| 06:10.37 | Guerin | HyperStream: both are freer than vmware |
| 06:10.38 | LightVision | dannyp: im using Debian Sarge, should I download the VMware Workstation 5.0? |
| 06:10.39 | john | f0rt3hm3h: read what i wrote |
| 06:10.41 | cat | HyperStream: apt-cache search torrent |
| 06:10.45 | Guerin | HyperStream: so why do you need it to be headless? |
| 06:10.46 | dannyp | LightVision: that's what I downloaded |
| 06:10.50 | f0rt3hm3h | john: i did, thanks |
| 06:10.52 | HyperStream | it doenst run a x session |
| 06:10.56 | LightVision | dannyp: and its hard to install? |
| 06:10.57 | HyperStream | and i dont want any output |
| 06:10.57 | Guerin | HyperStream: so? |
| 06:11.00 | looneybird_77590 | second time i added ( - ) to end of command same thing |
| 06:11.03 | shingouz | looneybird_77590: so so you have the file there in the first place? |
| 06:11.12 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: Perhaps the initrd.img for 2.6 is is "bad" |
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| 06:11.17 | Guerin | HyperStream: run the ncurses client of your choice in a screen session and adminiter it over ssh |
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| 06:11.27 | nkuttler | looneybird_77590: wrong filename |
| 06:11.27 | Guerin | HyperStream: like I do - i recommend rtorrent. |
| 06:11.41 | HyperStream | so they i dont have to have the ssh open? i can close it |
| 06:11.48 | Guerin | HyperStream: sure. |
| 06:11.50 | HyperStream | wake up in the morning and it'll still be running? with no gui |
| 06:11.58 | looneybird_77590 | thats what i kinda thought |
| 06:12.05 | Guerin | HyperStream: that's what screen does - just run screen -r when you log in again and it'll reattach |
| 06:12.10 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: cant quite get what you mean... =P |
| 06:12.14 | nkuttler | looneybird_77590: you know, file.txt != File.txt |
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| 06:12.25 | john | screen is nice :) |
| 06:12.36 | ke6isf | !screen |
| 06:12.36 | dpkg | screen is probably like, allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and let's you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or apt-get install screen |
| 06:12.36 | HyperStream | ahh. hmm nevermind still not what im looking fo |
| 06:12.44 | Azar | LightVision I found this read people's comments you might find the solution to your issue: http://www.xmms.org/plugins.php?details=42 |
| 06:12.44 | Guerin | screen is one of the things i absolutely cannot survive without in unix |
| 06:12.45 | HyperStream | just trying to find a dead plain torrent downloader |
| 06:12.58 | nkuttler | HyperStream: you have been told. apt-cache search torrent |
| 06:13.01 | HyperStream | pure console |
| 06:13.04 | Azar | Debian is not providing torrents |
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| 06:13.08 | Guerin | HyperStream: btdownloadcurses, btlaunchmanycurses, rtorrent, etc... |
| 06:13.14 | john | HyperStream: rtorrent |
| 06:13.22 | bouma | hey, guys, hmm, i'm just wondering if gnome-2.12 is in any unstable debian distributions? is ubuntu based on debs? |
| 06:13.24 | HyperStream | bbs googling your info. thanks guys |
| 06:13.29 | Zugschlus | diclophis: use expick | exim -Mrm |
| 06:13.32 | marculix | Guerin: if you like screen(1) Guerin, tell me if you like that: |
| 06:13.32 | marculix | http://freshmeat.net/projects/screenie/ |
| 06:13.32 | Zugschlus | diclophis: use exipick | exim -Mrm |
| 06:13.40 | Zugschlus | with appropriate options to exipick |
| 06:13.44 | Guerin | rtorrent is awesome, but versions newer than 0.3.0 are a bit flakey |
| 06:13.52 | Azar | bouma we are not doing ubuntu here |
| 06:14.16 | kapil | bouma: yes. ubuntu uses debs. |
| 06:14.21 | Guerin | bouma: it's not; you can try installing non-debian packages if you can find them, but you're working at your own risk. |
| 06:14.45 | Guerin | clarity: it IS based on deb; gnome 2.12 is NOT in debian |
| 06:15.58 | finite | is it possible to use ubuntu's bleeding edge gnome packages on a sarge system? |
| 06:16.46 | Guerin | anything's possible |
| 06:16.46 | nkuttler | finite: we don't know and won't help you to try, and probably no |
| 06:16.47 | Guerin | but it's unwise |
| 06:17.15 | kapil | finite: is there a good reason for you to want to bleed on the the edge? |
| 06:17.30 | kapil | s/the the/the/ |
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| 06:17.46 | nvz | I wish I could figure out how this damn mp3 player organized music... so far all I know is that it numbers the tracks and not by filename or timestamps cause there is no consistancy if I load 12 ZZTop songs then put on 3 Ashlee Simpson its not going to be in any certain order :P those 3 could end up anywhere between the others it seems |
| 06:17.58 | finite | kapil, the "spatial" view looks really cool, for one |
| 06:18.09 | finite | i miss the old mac os |
| 06:18.25 | finite | and it looks like gnome is doing a decent job immitating it |
| 06:18.29 | deadcat | finite: whats stopping you from using the old mac os? |
| 06:18.49 | finite | no modern programs run on it? |
| 06:18.56 | deadcat | bullshit |
| 06:19.07 | finite | what browser would i use? |
| 06:19.13 | kapil | finite: looks aren't everything. |
| 06:19.52 | concept10 | maybe you guys could use Garnome to install the latest GNOME.... |
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| 06:20.42 | Azar | LightVision see if you can apt-get : xmms-mikmod, xmms-modplug xmms-dumb, xmms-xmp |
| 06:20.55 | kapil | There is supposed to be a GNOME CD that gives you the bleeding edge GNOME desktop----live! |
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| 06:21.24 | kapil | They even change the programs while you are working with them! Now that's sharp sharp bleeding edge. |
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| 06:21.34 | finite | kapil, funny |
| 06:21.57 | concept10 | kapil: The GNOME live cd is nice..very nice. |
| 06:22.12 | derek[] | Is it true that debian is good for those who have access to unlimited high speed internet? |
| 06:22.20 | kapil | finite: no. seriously. (and I need a coffee after this). There *is* a GNOME Live CD with the latest and greatest GNOME. |
| 06:22.30 | finite | i'm on a new breezy system right now and i'm trying hard to convince myself to keep my other systems on sarge, but i'm not sure why |
| 06:22.46 | HyperStream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.54 | kapil | finite: and the guys who put it together have tried to make sure that everything *just works*. |
| 06:23.03 | concept10 | Anyone know a good application that completes tags on .mp3 files? |
| 06:23.04 | john | derek[]: it's true that debian is good for anybody, hehe ;p |
| 06:23.12 | concept10 | kapil: :) |
| 06:23.36 | nkuttler | derek[]: i used it with a modem for years |
| 06:23.43 | nvz | concept10: amarok does. |
| 06:23.46 | derek[] | ok |
| 06:23.48 | deadcat | problem with the marillat repo? |
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| 06:24.05 | Phated | What's wrong with it? |
| 06:24.28 | deadcat | Phated: cant get the Packages.gz file.. |
| 06:24.32 | looneybird_77590 | how do i view directories from command prompt? i tried cd /xxx/xxx didnt work |
| 06:24.46 | deadcat | looneybird_77590: ls /xxx/xxx |
| 06:24.49 | concept10 | I going to write the developers of Easytag and tell them to change the name. Its misleading! The app is robust but not userfriendly |
| 06:24.51 | Phated | deadcat: Here too. I suppose it is. |
| 06:24.56 | looneybird_77590 | ok |
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| 06:25.03 | nkuttler | looneybird_77590: ls /x<tab>x<tab> even |
| 06:25.07 | nvz | concept10: I wouldnt use it on a real low-end pc though as its bloated with music related features. |
| 06:25.14 | deadcat | Phated: check out conky, pretty fancy. (= |
| 06:25.54 | Phated | deadcat: Conky? Whassit do? |
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| 06:26.02 | concept10 | nvz: I just want a program that will go and check gracenote or whatever and complete the tags for me. I know its out there, I dont use KDE apps though. |
| 06:26.17 | deadcat | Phated: heard of torsmo? improvement to it. displays system infos |
| 06:26.31 | concept10 | I guess it wouldnt hurt to install amarok for a try... |
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| 06:27.20 | GullyFoyle | hey this opera IRC client aint bad |
| 06:27.31 | Phated | deadcat: Ah. |
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| 06:27.52 | GullyFoyle | i'm used to xchat but this works |
| 06:27.57 | nkuttler | GullyFoyle: it's not in debian and therefor off-topic |
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| 06:27.58 | deadcat | Phated: fits pretty well with a window manager (= |
| 06:28.11 | GullyFoyle | yuh okay |
| 06:28.29 | GullyFoyle | even if i'm running it under debian |
| 06:28.32 | concept10 | what the hell is going on |
| 06:28.39 | Phated | deadcat: Excellent. I'll check it out when I get home. |
| 06:28.50 | deadcat | Phated: school? |
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| 06:29.18 | Erpo | Hi all. I'm having trouble connecting to a WPA encrypted wireless network. There don't seem to be any problems with the driver and wpa_supplicant seems happy, but when I try to ifup the interface, my dhcp client doesn't get an IP address. A log of all the important stuff is pasted at http://pastebin.com/366148 -- any suggestions? |
| 06:29.31 | Phated | deadcat: Not on a saturday. Over at someone's. |
| 06:29.33 | concept10 | this lady on TV won a $750,000 settlement ... and she says that she cant live off of that --- I could for 15 years |
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| 06:29.50 | GullyFoyle | sound like the frigin tool who gave me crap about installing Sun's JRE with java-package just because it wasn't in debian |
| 06:30.04 | deadcat | Phated: oh right.. sat.. (=.. i lost track on dates |
| 06:30.26 | nkuttler | Erpo: check the dhcp server log |
| 06:30.30 | shingouz | !tell kijjaz about ask |
| 06:30.42 | Phated | deadcat: Heh. |
| 06:30.51 | liable | Erpo: you tried restarting wpa-supplicant? rechecked key (sorry to point the ovious) and is ssid broadcast enabled? |
| 06:30.52 | jakelo | I'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget. Anyone know how I would resolve this? |
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| 06:30.57 | tcsetattr | only if you are talking over irc with that same person, who is downstairs. |
| 06:31.02 | Phated | nvz: And when the person is next to you and also on IRC on HIS box. |
| 06:31.11 | timgoh0 | Hello nvz. Hello Phated |
| 06:31.17 | nvz | hello strange |
| 06:31.19 | nvz | r |
| 06:31.30 | Phated | tcsetattr: DOWNSTAIRS? |
| 06:31.30 | timgoh0 | nvz: I am just next to Phated. |
| 06:31.33 | Phated | Hello, timgoh0. |
| 06:31.38 | nvz | timgoh0: lucky you |
| 06:31.41 | nvz | :P |
| 06:31.42 | scarynetworkguy | Hi timgoh0! |
| 06:31.45 | tcsetattr | in the same room? |
| 06:31.52 | Phated | Yeh. |
| 06:31.53 | timgoh0 | tcsetattr: Yes |
| 06:31.56 | Erpo | liable, Several times, yes, and yes. And it's not a signal issue because everything works fine in windows xp on the same machines. |
| 06:31.58 | Phated | About... a foot away. |
| 06:31.59 | Erpo | *machine. |
| 06:32.00 | timgoh0 | About 1ft away |
| 06:32.31 | nvz | close enough to tickle |
| 06:32.44 | Phated | And prodding! |
| 06:32.51 | shingouz | Phated, timgoh0: just so you know it, there are other things in life than computers and irc ;) |
| 06:32.54 | Azar | jakelo check your apt sources they might be incorrect written |
| 06:33.12 | Phated | shingouz: Life... I have heard of this... When will it be packaged? |
| 06:33.20 | nvz | heh |
| 06:33.23 | timgoh0 | shingouz: There ARE? Wow. That must explain the big blue room outside. |
| 06:33.23 | GullyFoyle | har |
| 06:33.31 | jakelo | Azar, they were copied from another system on the same network which is working. |
| 06:33.37 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: In two releases. So what 20 years give or take? |
| 06:33.37 | shingouz | timgoh0: outside? |
| 06:33.42 | Phated | Bloody HELL! |
| 06:33.47 | kijjaz | I've just install Demudi from AGNULA project for the first time (A GNU/Linux Audio distribution). still can't figure out how to set up my audio interface. |
| 06:33.50 | timgoh0 | shingouz: Ooh. It has a name. |
| 06:33.56 | scarynetworkguy | timgoh0: Is that where they keep the daystar? |
| 06:34.03 | deadcat | !seen gravity |
| 06:34.04 | dpkg | gravity <n=david@pool-141-149-187-226.bos.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 2h 4m 31s ago, saying: 'Bhaal: Good luck'. |
| 06:34.05 | timgoh0 | scarynetworkguy: The yellow face? |
| 06:34.06 | jakelo | Azar, also that wouldn't affect wget |
| 06:34.07 | Azar | jakelo then you might have a connection issue on that machine |
| 06:34.10 | Phated | fucking daystar. It's got a fucked brightness adjust. |
| 06:34.10 | scarynetworkguy | timgoh0: Yeah. |
| 06:34.17 | kijjaz | Anyone can give me some advise on setting up an audio interface? Thanks ^^" |
| 06:34.23 | scarynetworkguy | Damn fucked up thing. |
| 06:34.26 | nkuttler | kijjaz: /msg dpkg faq |
| 06:34.53 | kijjaz | nkuttler: oh thanks very very much ^^". that's cool. |
| 06:34.58 | deadcat | anyone having xorg with ppc? |
| 06:34.59 | Azar | jakelo check your /etc/network/interfaces file see if you have assigned a proper address to your machine |
| 06:35.09 | shingouz | kijjaz: so are you running debian in the first place? sounds like you are running something else |
| 06:35.28 | liable | deadcat: thought you did.. |
| 06:35.38 | deadcat | liable: ya (= |
| 06:35.48 | deadcat | liable: need to find another one just to make sure its not just me |
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| 06:36.00 | jakelo | azar, posting file in #flood |
| 06:36.07 | tcsetattr | jakelo, can you strace it? EADDRNOTAVAIL is a weird error.. |
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| 06:36.33 | looneybird_77590 | knuttler: dont know if they r even or not. several times response was "directory not found" but! in 1 of the " dir. not found" i also got an identical |
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| 06:36.42 | nvz | I need to invent a cool set of shades for women.. they will change color with her mood on the outside to give everyone fair warning, but they will look the same from the inside :P |
| 06:36.51 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 06:36.54 | liable | damn, spilt sugar on the keyboard, now it crunches when i type. :( |
| 06:36.56 | jakelo | tcsetattr, how do you strace?... sorry never done this deep before. |
| 06:37.18 | liable | nvz: heh, you'll make millions! |
| 06:37.28 | nkuttler | looneybird_77590: i don't understand you, rephrase. |
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| 06:37.38 | tcsetattr | jakelo, like run "strace -o /tmp/tracefile wget http://www.debian.org/" and then look at the last few lines of /tmp/tracefile to see what happened. |
| 06:38.16 | jakelo | strace command not found :( |
| 06:38.27 | Phated | So install it. |
| 06:38.45 | f0rt3hm3h | ok so i download "kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386", i do "dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386.deb", everything looks fine, when i reboot and i choose to boot the new kernel form the grub boot loader i get the following errors while booting: "pivot_root: No such file or directory", "/sbin/init:432:cannot open dev/console: No such file", "kernel panic: Attempted to kill init" |
| 06:38.53 | liable | Erpo: tried with a static ip? |
| 06:39.02 | nvz | liable: shiiit.. I wouldnt market it.. if I mass-market they will catch on :P |
| 06:39.06 | jakelo | I can't get a job because I have no exp... I can't get exp.... :P |
| 06:39.28 | jakelo | BTW I seem to be able to ssh into the box but not out. |
| 06:39.47 | shingouz | f0rt3hm3h: why the fsck did you not install it with 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386'? |
| 06:40.01 | Erpo | liable, No. Worth a shot, though. I'm a little worried about the "Missed beacon" section of the iwconfig output, but I don't know enough about wireless networking yet to interpret that. |
| 06:40.04 | ke6isf | nvz: There's the same stuff that mood rings are made of, but it's not really that reliable. |
| 06:40.07 | f0rt3hm3h | shingouz: no internet on the linux box ;( |
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| 06:40.25 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: looks like the installation of the kernel did *not* go fine. The possible problems are: (a) check menu.lst for grub (if grub) (b) check initrd.img (c) check root device. |
| 06:40.46 | shingouz | f0rt3hm3h: you went from a 2.4 to a 2.6, right? did you happen to install the module-init-tools too? |
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| 06:41.06 | f0rt3hm3h | shingouz: yeah |
| 06:41.12 | shingouz | yeah what |
| 06:41.18 | nvz | ke6isf: yeah well I'll talk to the people who made the crotch sniffing wrist watch early warning system.. sure they can figure something out |
| 06:41.21 | Erpo | I'm going to try the static IP thing. brb |
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| 06:41.29 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: menu.lst is good, what do i have to check about initrd.img |
| 06:41.29 | jakelo | I was suggested that it might be a firewall... what firewall applications are out there so I can try uninstalling them? |
| 06:41.32 | liable | Erpo: you can get a dhcp lease without wpa running? |
| 06:41.37 | ke6isf | nvz: crotch sni... wtf?! |
| 06:41.42 | f0rt3hm3h | shingouz: i installed module-init-tools |
| 06:41.57 | jakelo | tcsetattr, any other ideas? |
| 06:41.59 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: was it created when you installed the new kernel? |
| 06:42.07 | Erpo | liable: Haven't tried. Wouldn't wpa_supplicant be mandatory given that the network requires WPA? |
| 06:42.19 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: yeah |
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| 06:42.24 | f0rt3hm3h | shingouz: do i need module-init-tools-udeb too? |
| 06:42.27 | liable | Erpo: says, security mode open in iwconfig output.. |
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| 06:42.56 | dannyp | jakelo: the actual packet filtering gets done in the kernel [in any sane OS], so you can't simply "uninstall a firewall" [in, e.g., Linux] |
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| 06:43.04 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: what to check about root device? |
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| 06:43.19 | _quik_ | hey folks |
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| 06:43.37 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: most probably the initrd.img is not succeeding in mounting the root device. |
| 06:43.43 | Erpo | liable, I'm not entirely sure that's a bad thing. It does list an encryption key, and wpa_supplicant does say that key negotiation was completed successfully. |
| 06:43.45 | Guerin | jakelo: if you haven't installed a firewall, you aren't running one, since debian doesn't have one running by default |
| 06:43.49 | tcsetattr | jakelo, run iptables -L -n to see if you have any firewall rules. I don't think that's it though. |
| 06:43.53 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: how should i fix that? |
| 06:43.56 | Azar | jackelo your router firewall ( if you have any ) has nothing to do with Debian settings |
| 06:44.10 | _quik_ | I've got a new install of debian, the apt-get will not install anything, all the http/ftp sources appear as 1.0.0.0 for ip address, do I need to edit the sources list> |
| 06:44.12 | _quik_ | ? |
| 06:44.32 | ke6isf | _quik_: well, first, can you change to a less annoying nick? |
| 06:44.33 | Guerin | _quik_: can you ping debian.org? |
| 06:44.37 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: do you have a standard root device like /dev/hda<n> with an ext2/ext3 file system? |
| 06:44.51 | jakelo | all looks well in iptables ... all accept |
| 06:44.56 | liable | Erpo: stop wpa-supplicant and try, just for shits and giggles. or look in the router config and turn off wpa just to check to make sure it gets a lease |
| 06:44.58 | _quik_ | ke6isf, why is this annoying? |
| 06:45.01 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: i have /dev/hde3 with ext3 FS |
| 06:45.04 | Azar | jakelo are you using a D-Link router? |
| 06:45.04 | _quik_ | yes, I can ping debian.org |
| 06:45.11 | Guerin | _quik_: what ip address? |
| 06:45.13 | ke6isf | _quik_: the prefixing underbar. BTW, run apt-setup. |
| 06:45.17 | tcsetattr | jakelo, how about netstat -tan, are there any connections? |
| 06:45.35 | Erpo | liable: I'll try that, and use a static IP to see what happens. brb |
| 06:45.41 | _quik_ | 192.25.206.10 |
| 06:45.42 | liable | _quik_: because people have to hit the shift key and underscore for tab completion.. which *is* annoying. |
| 06:45.42 | Erpo | liable: Thanks. |
| 06:45.46 | nvz | _quik_: for people with crippled tab-completion or small brains its a PITA to type the _ |
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| 06:45.58 | jakelo | tcp6 0 132 ::ffff:192.168.0.80:22 ::ffff:192.168.0.6:1307 ESTABLISHED |
| 06:46.01 | Guerin | _quik: apt-setup |
| 06:46.04 | ke6isf | quik: Thank you. |
| 06:46.07 | jakelo | tcp 0 0 192.168.0.80:445 192.168.0.65:1284 ESTABLISHED |
| 06:46.10 | nvz | much better, now I can get it on one tab instead of 4 |
| 06:46.11 | liable | quik: thanks |
| 06:46.28 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: so what should i do? |
| 06:46.29 | jakelo | everything else is listen |
| 06:46.29 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: and does the grub command line have the correct info? root=/dev/hde4 rootfstype=ext3 (latter is not necessarily required) |
| 06:47.41 | looneybird_77590 | ok running this command: md5sum /ect/x11/xf86config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/xf86config-4.md5sum - |
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| 06:48.08 | tcsetattr | try it without the typos |
| 06:48.09 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: it has kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-386 root=/dev/hde3 ro , do i need initrd /initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 root=/dev/hde3 |
| 06:48.12 | quik | apt-setup is locked by the base system configuration tool that runs after install |
| 06:48.27 | eXistenZ | Does anyone know where can I get cedega for debian? |
| 06:48.47 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: no. initrd /initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 is enough. |
| 06:48.47 | nvz | looneybird_77590: wtf do you expect that to do |
| 06:48.48 | shingouz | looneybird_77590: xf86config-4 is not the same as XF86Config-4 |
| 06:48.50 | valdyn | eXistenZ: buy it? |
| 06:48.54 | shingouz | eXistenZ: yes. from cedega |
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| 06:48.59 | eXistenZ | valdyn: I thought it was free =/ |
| 06:49.01 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: so what to do? |
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| 06:49.04 | liable | f0rt3hm3h: you have initrd-tools installed too? try re-install.. |
| 06:49.07 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: does it detect /dev/hde at boot time? |
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| 06:49.39 | zamolxes | wasn't cedega opensource? i mean the binary was not gratis, but there was a cvs online a while ago |
| 06:49.50 | f0rt3hm3h | kapil: well, i think it does, i dont get any error about that, and if i get it passes too fast on the screen and i cant see it =( |
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| 06:50.12 | f0rt3hm3h | liable: i have initrd-tools |
| 06:50.18 | kapil | liable: you probably mean for f0rt3hm3h to re-install the kernel-package. |
| 06:50.47 | liable | kapil: corrct! |
| 06:50.55 | liable | correct too. |
| 06:51.06 | nvz | I don't understand what cedega has to do with the price of smuggled arms in Gazza |
| 06:51.07 | zamolxes | !nickometer f0rt3hm3h |
| 06:51.07 | dpkg | 'f0rt3hm3h' is 99.9256% lame, zamolxes |
| 06:51.14 | zamolxes | dpkg: thanks |
| 06:51.14 | dpkg | zamolxes: no, no ... thank YOU! |
| 06:51.25 | looneybird_77590 | is the command case sensitive? |
| 06:51.28 | nvz | Mandriva? |
| 06:51.42 | liable | looneybird_77590: everything is case sensitive in linux.. |
| 06:51.51 | nvz | looneybird_77590: of course commands are case sensitive as are filenames and everything else |
| 06:51.52 | ke6isf | nvz: Unfortunately. Couldn't get sb16 working well under Debian, so she is sticking with Mandribble until we can afford a new sound card. |
| 06:52.12 | kapil | f0rt3hm3h: could you also check /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf? |
| 06:52.20 | nvz | ke6isf: did you try different drivers or kernels? |
| 06:52.25 | ke6isf | nvz: At least the package manager is *semi* intelligent. |
| 06:52.27 | ke6isf | nvz: Yep. |
| 06:52.47 | looneybird_77590 | shit! didnt know that. to many years of windows + dos |
| 06:52.56 | quik | Guerin, apt-get is locked, I guess by the installer app |
| 06:53.02 | nvz | ke6isf: mandriva runs on linux too. you apperently didnt try hard enough |
| 06:53.03 | ke6isf | looneybird_77590: Takes a bit of getting used to. |
| 06:53.17 | looneybird_77590 | tell me bout it |
| 06:53.31 | nvz | looneybird_77590: the tab key is your friend |
| 06:53.35 | ke6isf | nvz: Well... until we get a new sound card, I'm not gonna argue with her. |
| 06:53.36 | jakelo | quik, are you running apt-get as root? |
| 06:53.43 | quik | but either way, any of the mirrors produce a ip address of 1.0.0.0 |
| 06:53.46 | shingouz | !tell looneybird_77590 about nicktab |
| 06:53.53 | quik | yes, its during the installer |
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| 06:53.58 | shingouz | looneybird_77590: the tab works in similar ways even in bash.... |
| 06:54.01 | zamolxes | ke6isf: eh, it's pretty intelligent, don't be a troll. |
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| 06:55.29 | quik | why would all the mirrors produce 1.0.0.0? |
| 06:55.38 | nvz | quik: sounds like your dns server is doing that not the mirrors |
| 06:55.47 | stek_ | "X server doesn't support YV12 overlays" this error why? |
| 06:55.54 | tcsetattr | some clever admin put bogus 1.0.0.0 records in the nameserver for Debian mirrors, so you wouldn't be able to install it, thus saving lots of his precious bandwidth :) |
| 06:55.57 | looneybird_77590 | ok doing command over |
| 06:55.58 | quik | ahh |
| 06:56.01 | ke6isf | quik: What's in /etc/hosts? |
| 06:56.02 | nvz | quik: maybe you should stop making assumptions and provide more information about your setup specifically the network |
| 06:56.19 | ke6isf | quik: For that matter, what's in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 06:56.30 | quik | just localhost setup stuff |
| 06:56.50 | ke6isf | quik: So you're not set up to resolve hames? |
| 06:57.06 | stek_ | my operating system:debian |
| 06:57.07 | ke6isf | s/hames/names |
| 06:57.22 | quik | no |
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| 06:57.37 | deadcat | no ppc users tonight? |
| 06:57.39 | quik | I just added the right dns' to resolv.conf, do I need to restart networking? |
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| 06:57.47 | ke6isf | quik: No, it should work immediately. |
| 06:57.49 | Phr0zenKore | WtF.../. |
| 06:57.50 | jakelo | Does anyone know why my system can only ping out and not ssh nor http? SSH works into the system. |
| 06:57.52 | Phated | quik: Use 204.152.191.7 as your server. |
| 06:57.59 | Phr0zenKore | kicked offline from MSN all the time |
| 06:58.03 | timgoh0 | deadcat: Phated and I are PPC users. |
| 06:58.09 | nvz | deadcat: better asked in #debian-ppc |
| 06:58.10 | Phated | timgoh0: No Debian! |
| 06:58.14 | deadcat | timgoh0: you guys using xorg? |
| 06:58.21 | deadcat | nvz: ya. no one there.. |
| 06:58.26 | stek_ | xine-check command output "X server doesn't support YV12 overlays" |
| 06:58.34 | timgoh0 | deadcat: Take it to #debian-ppc |
| 06:58.40 | quik | Phated, as the nameserver? |
| 06:58.44 | deadcat | timgoh0: NOBODY THERE! |
| 06:58.50 | Phated | quik: As your repos. |
| 06:58.52 | timgoh0 | deadcat: I'm there now |
| 06:59.01 | tcsetattr | jakelo, have you checked dmesg to see if there are any complaints from the kernel? |
| 06:59.04 | deadcat | timgoh0: you using xorg on your ppc? |
| 06:59.07 | quik | I don't know what repos is? |
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| 06:59.17 | Phated | quik: You're trying to use a Debian mirror, no? |
| 06:59.23 | tcsetattr | plenty of people on #debianppc, without the hyphen... |
| 06:59.29 | ke6isf | stek_: Which Debian version, and are you using xorg or xfree? |
| 06:59.32 | quik | yes |
| 06:59.35 | deadcat | tcsetattr: aint nobody talking |
| 06:59.42 | deadcat | Phated: you on ppc? |
| 06:59.42 | stek_ | okey |
| 06:59.49 | timgoh0 | deadcat: No. But i should be able to help. Take it to either #debian-ppc or #debianppc. Your call. |
| 06:59.52 | jakelo | tcsetattr, nothing that looks like an error |
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| 07:00.01 | nvz | !yinzersmite deadcat |
| 07:00.04 | deadcat | timgoh0: jesus |
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| 07:00.23 | Phated | quik: So, use that IP address as the server. |
| 07:00.29 | nvz | somehow I dont think Jesus was a PPC user |
| 07:00.31 | Phated | deadcat: Not using Debian on it, no. |
| 07:00.31 | quik | right |
| 07:00.47 | ke6isf | nvz: Nah, they came a little after the ascension. |
| 07:00.55 | quik | if I can ping anything on the web, I don't understand why apt-get/setup will not get any action |
| 07:01.24 | ke6isf | quik: Have you run apt-setup? |
| 07:01.41 | jakelo | nvz, no but Jesus did "emerge" after 3 days. |
| 07:01.47 | quik | yes, the servers simply try to hit 1.0.0.0 |
| 07:01.54 | ke6isf | !gentoosmite jakelo |
| 07:02.07 | nvz | jakelo: hmm.. hints that Jesus may have been a Gentoo user |
| 07:02.14 | looneybird_77590 | got no such fil or directory on first half of command second half says differ |
| 07:02.26 | ke6isf | Man, I've heard of religious issues, but this is just insane! |
| 07:02.32 | nvz | heh |
| 07:02.32 | jakelo | yeah... something about emerge world |
| 07:02.36 | kapil | quik: what do you mean by "I can ping anything on the web". Does "ping http.us.debian.org" work? |
| 07:02.45 | quik | yes, it does |
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| 07:02.58 | tcsetattr | hmm.. BSD has "make world". |
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| 07:03.13 | jakelo | Yeah... bsd was before gentoo |
| 07:03.28 | nvz | I dont think there is a doubt in anyones mind that God is a BSD user |
| 07:03.34 | kapil | quik: in that case just put "http.us.debian.org" as the source in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. |
| 07:03.49 | ke6isf | BAH! God uses OS/2! |
| 07:03.52 | quik | "deb http.us.debian.org" ? |
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| 07:03.56 | ke6isf | Just to be different! |
| 07:03.58 | Phated | quik: Run apt-setup, select HTTP as protocol, select Enter Information Manually, use the ip address that I just gave you as the server, and use all other default options. |
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| 07:04.59 | jakelo | Can anyone help me with my apt-get issues? |
| 07:05.09 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 07:05.10 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> consider the answer to be "yes" if the program is actually in Debian.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 07:05.13 | quik | sweet |
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| 07:05.20 | timgoh0 | jakelo: What is the issue? |
| 07:05.22 | ke6isf | jakelo: Depends, what *are* your apt-get issues? |
| 07:05.38 | nvz | I set out a while back to write an RPG engine and wrote a few type definitions and some other insignificant shit and gave up :P |
| 07:05.39 | quik | I wonder why it was trying to hit 1.0.0.0 anyway? |
| 07:05.39 | kapil | quik: I'll paste a sample sources.list file in #flood. |
| 07:05.44 | jakelo | I'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget. |
| 07:05.46 | neobie | Just out of curiosity, which program do you guys use to listem to mp3s? |
| 07:05.56 | quik | itunes |
| 07:06.06 | Phated | quik: DNS. B0rked. |
| 07:06.22 | jakelo | I can ssh into the system and http into the system but once in the system I cannot ssh out nor run apt-get nor access a website. |
| 07:06.27 | ke6isf | !tell neobie -about polls |
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| 07:07.04 | nimak | polls are just fine |
| 07:07.04 | jakelo | Been looking for 3 days and haven't been able to fix it. |
| 07:07.12 | concept10 | polls are great |
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| 07:07.15 | Phated | mp3blaster |
| 07:07.15 | timgoh0 | mpg123 |
| 07:08.15 | ke6isf | neobie: That said, I burn mine to CD and use an MP3 CD player. |
| 07:08.29 | kapil | jakelo: firewall maybe? |
| 07:08.44 | liable | jakelo: behind a router? |
| 07:08.48 | tcsetattr | jakelo, you do have something really strange going on. do you have any idea what you were doing before this error showed up? |
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| 07:09.36 | nvz | neobie: mpg321, or madplay doesnt seem to make a difference |
| 07:09.45 | jakelo | not usre about the firewall, I have another system on the same netowrk that can upgrade without issues. |
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| 07:10.04 | nvz | neobie: one is the same as the other afaict |
| 07:10.05 | timgoh0 | neobie: decode the file into wav, cat filename.wav > /dev/audio |
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| 07:10.36 | nvz | timgoh0: what do you think an mp3 player does? :P |
| 07:10.37 | jakelo | tcsetattr, As far as I know the system was functional and upgrading without issues about 4 months ago. |
| 07:10.57 | timgoh0 | nvz: But Real Men use file redirection and pipes. |
| 07:10.59 | tcsetattr | jakelo, the question is What Did You Change |
| 07:11.09 | concept10 | does sarge come with some type of cron that cleans the /tmp directory daily? |
| 07:11.12 | Phated | Four months. Quite a lot can happen in four months, you know. |
| 07:11.31 | nvz | timgoh0: yeah, ok. you sit there and pick at the encoded data.. I'll dance with the girl |
| 07:11.38 | neobie | thanks |
| 07:12.11 | timgoh0 | nvz: I have Phated in the room. And she just suggested the redirection thing. |
| 07:12.12 | jakelo | tcsetattr, last thing I remember doing on the system was run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. |
| 07:12.21 | tcsetattr | real men cp foo.mp3 /dev/audio and decompress mentally! or something. |
| 07:12.41 | liable | jakelo: so you cant ping out? can you ping the router? |
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| 07:12.46 | timgoh0 | tcsetattr: Real Men don't need audio hardware. Real Men cat it to the console. |
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| 07:13.09 | concept10 | Real men make thier own music then encode it |
| 07:13.20 | liable | wenas! |
| 07:13.26 | Phated | Real Men play live. |
| 07:13.27 | jakelo | liable, yup and www.yahoo.com |
| 07:13.28 | timgoh0 | concept10: Real men hum. |
| 07:13.34 | Phated | They WHISTLE! |
| 07:13.42 | concept10 | I use a Kazoo |
| 07:13.54 | HyperStream | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.00 | liable | jakelo: but you cant use a browser? |
| 07:14.03 | quik | to install gnome, is it fine to use apt-get install gnome? |
| 07:14.19 | nvz | I wish I had a Les Paul. they are the best for beatings |
| 07:14.32 | nvz | heavy and solid |
| 07:14.39 | jakelo | liable, no browser installed... server system consol onloy. |
| 07:14.48 | liable | jakelo: wget? |
| 07:14.51 | ke6isf | nvz: Even better if you can paint the word "LART" onto the side in contrasting paint. |
| 07:14.55 | jakelo | liable, can't use lynx nor wget nor apt-get |
| 07:15.03 | timgoh0 | ke6isf: On a guitar? |
| 07:15.04 | Phated | Where contrasting == neon? |
| 07:15.11 | Azar | jakelo how about links? |
| 07:15.20 | Phated | elinks. |
| 07:15.24 | timgoh0 | Phated: (contrasting==neon)=true; |
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| 07:15.32 | liable | jakelo: then if ping goes through but http or ftp cant, i would look to the router.. |
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| 07:15.39 | ke6isf | timgoh0: Well, if you're going to use it as a LART, then why not? |
| 07:15.39 | timgoh0 | Wait. I can't technically assign that. |
| 07:15.40 | tcsetattr | jakelo, as an experiment, try this command and tell me if it says anything: perl -MIO::Socket -e '$s=IO::Socket::INET->new(Listen=>1) or die $!' |
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| 07:16.16 | jakelo | links not working either. |
| 07:16.41 | jakelo | tcsetattr, Address already in use at -e line 1. |
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| 07:16.59 | tcsetattr | jakelo, you got some WEIRD crap going on :) |
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| 07:17.13 | ke6isf | Heck, even my wife says it's appropriate. She says "lart" sounds like the name of a musical instrument manufacturer. |
| 07:17.23 | tcsetattr | jakelo, cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range |
| 07:17.31 | concept10 | for some reason I am intrigued with the /tmp directory.. I wonder how stuff disapears from it .. does this get cleaned by some process? |
| 07:17.40 | nvz | would be nice to have a beat and vocals on track to play to instead of playing over a whole band with an acoustic. I am not yet coordinated enough to play and sing |
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| 07:18.13 | jakelo | tcsetattr, 1024 4999 |
| 07:18.26 | aeronadix | how do I add a new fat partition for linux to use, and have it writeable by any user |
| 07:18.27 | timgoh0 | nvz: That's why they have things like Cubase. Or Abelton Live |
| 07:18.43 | liable | !tell aeronadix about vfatrw |
| 07:18.50 | tcsetattr | jakelo, what kernel version are you running? (uname -r) |
| 07:18.52 | ke6isf | aeronadix: Is this a previously existing FAT partition, or are you creating a brand new partition? |
| 07:19.07 | nvz | takes all I got to either carry a rythm or a tune. they both degrade horribly if I try to do both |
| 07:19.12 | concept10 | timgoh0: Abelton sucks |
| 07:19.12 | jakelo | 2.6 |
| 07:19.25 | ke6isf | nvz: Takes much practice, it does, yes. |
| 07:19.26 | aeronadix | It is already on my system, and I can mount it, but I can't write to it with a regular user, only root can write to it |
| 07:19.38 | timgoh0 | concept10: I agree. But most people here seem to use it. |
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| 07:19.51 | nvz | I can play even simple things and cant talk along much less sing |
| 07:20.01 | Phated | Siiiing. |
| 07:20.16 | jakelo | tcsetattr, that's what I get running kernelversion |
| 07:20.19 | concept10 | timgoh0: I used ableton in the studio the other day and I just dont get the interface, seems like a good idea but .... |
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| 07:20.43 | nvz | well maybe its all in my head.. cause I was just doing it alright |
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| 07:20.51 | timgoh0 | concept10: It was intended for use with an external midi trigger device. |
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| 07:21.51 | tcsetattr | jakelo, I am really getting stumped here :) |
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| 07:22.12 | looneybird_77590 | ok, what am i doing wrong? I typed " ls /ect/X11 " no such file or directory |
| 07:22.15 | jakelo | tcsetattr, thanks for your time either way |
| 07:22.21 | nvz | hmm I wonder if I could do that with a more difficult song that that |
| 07:22.37 | liable | looneybird_77590: err /etc.. |
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| 07:22.43 | Phated | looneybird_77590: Learn tab-complete. |
| 07:22.46 | tcsetattr | jakelo, try this one: perl -MIO::Socket -e '$s=IO::Socket::INET->new(Listen=>1,LocalPort=>20101) or die $!' |
| 07:22.55 | concept10 | timgoh0: I know that. im staking about dragging and dropping acidtized audio tracks from the browser to the track list. it took me a minute to accomplish but initially i didnt like the interface. |
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| 07:23.16 | jakelo | tcsetattr, nothing |
| 07:23.16 | timgoh0 | looneybird_77590: Tab complete makes you strong. Strength crushes enemies. |
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| 07:23.41 | timgoh0 | concept10: But for live performances, i haven't seen any other software that comes close to it. |
| 07:23.47 | tcsetattr | jakelo, how many lines do you get with netstat -tln ... more than a screenful? |
| 07:24.06 | looneybird_77590 | ls |
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| 07:24.14 | looneybird_77590 | shit |
| 07:24.29 | jakelo | tcsetattr 13 line... most of 0.0.0.0:### |
| 07:24.43 | ke6isf | Off to bed. Here's to weekend hell. |
| 07:25.00 | jakelo | tcsetattr 13 line... 2 are :::### |
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| 07:25.20 | looneybird_77590 | only been trying to learn this system for bout a week now |
| 07:25.21 | jakelo | tcsetattr, all are listening |
| 07:25.28 | tcsetattr | jakelo, this doesn't make any sense, but it couldn't hurt... try echo 30000 60000 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range then try doing your apt-get update really quickly afterward |
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| 07:25.57 | tcsetattr | jakelo, your system is acting like all the TCP ports are in use... |
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| 07:26.09 | jakelo | tcsetattr, WTF it worked |
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| 07:26.13 | Azar | I think he did not edit his router configuration for this new machine |
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| 07:26.28 | aeronadix | when I make changes to fstab, Is there something I can restart of do I just mount the drive? Or do the changes automatically take affect |
| 07:26.29 | Erpo | I'm back. The network seems to work fine when I set a static IP address, but dhcp still doesn't work. I've verified that dhclient is asking on the right interface, but the router doesn't respond. It does, however, send out SSDP packets. |
| 07:26.32 | concept10 | timgoh0: hmmm...I will just stick to cubase SX .. BTW, do you use any sequencers in Linux? I havent seen one that isnt close to a nightmare |
| 07:26.39 | tcsetattr | jakelo, you have something eating up a LOT of ports. How many lines do you get with netstat -tan |
| 07:27.03 | timgoh0 | concept10: Haven't seen one. |
| 07:27.04 | jakelo | one sec apt-getting |
| 07:27.36 | jakelo | tcsetattr18 lines |
| 07:27.55 | tcsetattr | jakelo, if my theory is correct, the trouble will soon spread to cover the hole we just opened up... you haven't solved anything just temporarily got around it |
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| 07:28.27 | aeronadix | that didn |
| 07:28.33 | jakelo | tcsetattr, okay what should I look out ofr? |
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| 07:28.51 | Phated | aeronadix: Just mount the drive. |
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| 07:29.00 | aeronadix | that didn't work, I made the changes to fstab that dpkg said, but still only root can write to it |
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| 07:29.28 | Phated | aeronadix: In what? What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 07:29.29 | aeronadix | Phated, I see, it will be mounted on reboot auto I guess, anyway, still only root can write to it |
| 07:29.36 | jakelo | tcsetattr, 74 day up time |
| 07:29.56 | liable | aeronadix: did you remount it? |
| 07:30.02 | aeronadix | Phated, I am trying to be able to write to the drive using my regular system user, but I can only write as root |
| 07:30.06 | tcsetattr | jakelo, I'm still a little confused. Maybe the problem was that your upgrade lowered the port range in ip_local_port_range, and the kernel didn't like that... maybe you won't have any more trouble... maybe we'll never know what the hell that problem was |
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| 07:30.17 | Phated | aeronadix: umount, remount. |
| 07:30.22 | aeronadix | liable, yeah I remounted, let me try to umount and mount again, 1 sec |
| 07:30.52 | looneybird_77590 | <----- sees a new light here! |
| 07:31.04 | jakelo | tcsetattr, either way if the issue is that the ports are being used... a reboot could resolve it right? |
| 07:31.07 | aeronadix | Phated, only root can mount it also, so maybe thats why only root can write to it |
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| 07:31.49 | liable | aeronadix: did you put the right group id in? |
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| 07:31.57 | tcsetattr | jakelo, if netstat doesn't show a zillion ports in use, then either they are not in use, or netstat is lying which would mean there's a rootkit... |
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| 07:32.29 | aeronadix | liable, yeah, I ran $id, and put the values in just like dpkg said |
| 07:32.36 | jakelo | tcsetattr, that's not good |
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| 07:33.04 | aeronadix | which file is it that I was supposed to edit, I edited /etc/fstab |
| 07:33.06 | ripple | don't know if last msg made it through so will try again.. Was wondering if bad CPU could be cause of a lot of segfaults and FPU type errors?? If so... How could I verify that?? |
| 07:33.07 | liable | aeronadix: mount -o remount -a |
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| 07:33.29 | jakelo | what is the package that checks for rootkits. |
| 07:33.34 | jakelo | ? |
| 07:33.53 | Phated | aeronadix: /dev/device /mount/point vfat rw,users,noauto 0 0 |
| 07:33.59 | Phated | aeronadix: That WFM. |
| 07:34.05 | timgoh0 | jakelo: chkrootkit |
| 07:34.21 | tcsetattr | jakelo, I wouldn't worry about it. I don't think that's it. I think someone or something monkeyed with the ip_local_port_range, and managed to confuse the kernel. So setting it to 30000 60000 un-fucked it |
| 07:34.29 | liable | or rkhunter (not packaged though) |
| 07:34.41 | Phated | rkhunter IS packaged. in unstable. |
| 07:34.47 | liable | oh |
| 07:35.05 | jakelo | tcsetattr, okay a test will make me feel better |
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| 07:35.56 | timgoh0 | jakelo: What makes you think that chkrootkit is not compromised |
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| 07:36.06 | liable | aeronadix: you could set umask=000 if you want 'anybody' to be able to write to it.. |
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| 07:36.26 | aeronadix | ok, let me try that |
| 07:37.26 | Azar | so at any moment any Debian box in the wild can be rooted without a whisper to alert the user? |
| 07:37.31 | jakelo | timgoh0, apt-get first |
| 07:37.47 | Azar | I guess majority of user don't even care |
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| 07:38.16 | timgoh0 | Azar: Of course. Any box can be compromised. It's just the amount of effort. Better be safe than sorry. |
| 07:38.23 | liable | Azar: sarge is a safe bet, but there will always be vulnerabilities found, and if they arent fixed quickly... |
| 07:39.04 | Azar | liable, that means that the security packages will protect against intrusion? worry free there? |
| 07:39.27 | timgoh0 | Azar: Tripwire and a CD burner. |
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| 07:39.32 | liable | Azar: thats the idea.. |
| 07:39.45 | Azar | I am asking because majority of new linux users are totally confident that a linux machine is safe: no viruses, no penetration |
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| 07:40.12 | Azar | timgoh0 what is Tripwire? |
| 07:40.51 | timgoh0 | Azar: It creates hashes of every file on your system. |
| 07:40.58 | Azar | at this moment, if I get rooted and the system becomes unstable for some reason, my only defence line is a reinstall |
| 07:41.00 | aeronadix | ok, guys, you did, I can write to it now, thanks a lot for your help |
| 07:41.06 | timgoh0 | Azar: You can then verify if anything has been changed. |
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| 07:41.32 | timgoh0 | Azar: Of course you will want to burn the sigs to a write once media to ensure that they are not tampered with |
| 07:41.48 | timgoh0 | Azar: And boot from a known good CD to verify signatures. |
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| 07:42.25 | Azar | timgoh0 I see, if I have the Woody CD but I use Sarge will that work or I have to get the Sarge CD? |
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| 07:42.48 | ripple | would there be any way to find out if your cpu is causing segfault and/or FPU errors?? usually it's software but my system even burps and snorts when I boot a live linux cd!! DARN.. :-( |
| 07:43.19 | dannyp | could be a lot of things. memory is one thing that's fairly easy to test |
| 07:43.22 | concept10 | ripple: maybe its dying |
| 07:43.25 | timgoh0 | Azar: No. You roll your own known good boot cd with tripwire and you burn the sigs onto another CD. You store these in a secure location and you verify every now and then the machine's integrity. |
| 07:43.28 | dannyp | burn an memtest86 CD and boot it up |
| 07:43.33 | Revie | bad memory, bad overclocking... |
| 07:43.35 | ripple | memtest passes with flying colors.. |
| 07:43.50 | Azar | timgoh0, thanks :) |
| 07:44.07 | concept10 | ripple: overheating maybe? |
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| 07:44.55 | ripple | concept10: so maybe could be cpu fan? |
| 07:45.04 | Erpo_ | My wireless gateway/router responds to dhcp requests when I'm running windows on my wireless laptop but not when I'm running linux. Everything works fine when I use a static IP under linux. What gives? |
| 07:45.08 | timgoh0 | ripple: Yank everything? PCI cards, ISA cards. Run at the minimum needed to boot and see if there are any problems. |
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| 07:45.16 | dannyp | you would probably know if it were heat |
| 07:45.27 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: What does dhclient say? |
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| 07:45.32 | dannyp | starting cold, it would fail after being on for awhile |
| 07:45.38 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Run |
| 07:45.44 | dannyp | and then it would fail more and more quickly and reliably |
| 07:45.47 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Run dhclient. |
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| 07:46.10 | dannyp | and would need to cool down to become halfway stable |
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| 07:46.19 | liable | Erpo_: the thing does wpa under windows? |
| 07:46.20 | ripple | man... the last thing i want to do is get into a marathon hardware debug session.. :-( |
| 07:46.23 | dannyp | if there's no clear correlation between uptime and stability, I'd test memory first |
| 07:46.23 | ripple | lol.. |
| 07:46.30 | liable | dannyp: checked for dust? heatsink? |
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| 07:46.36 | HyperStream | using xchat when ever i try to dcc files or dcc chat i get: DCC Send from hyperstream rejected (invalid parameters) |
| 07:46.41 | liable | dannyp: er sorry |
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| 07:46.52 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: I can't; I'm running windows right now since it connects ok (no DNS setup in linux without dhcp). However, the gist of the output from dhclient is that it's sending out requests but not getting any responses. Finally it times out. |
| 07:46.57 | ripple | yup ... dust inside of box quite often.. i love caned air.. |
| 07:47.14 | dannyp | if the memory is good, your northbridge or southbridge |
| 07:47.17 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: But a static setup works? |
| 07:47.24 | Erpo_ | liable: Yes, and WPA works with linux now too when I set a static IP. |
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| 07:47.35 | Revenger | firewall in the way ? |
| 07:47.43 | ripple | dannyp: would that be MB or cpu problem? |
| 07:47.53 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: You can try leaving it in static as a workaround. Which distro are you using? |
| 07:48.31 | Erpo_ | timgoh0, liable: When I set a static IP address in linux, I can plug the router's IP address into my web browser and access its configuration page, so I know for a fact that the link works. |
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| 07:48.51 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: And does dhclient work after that? |
| 07:48.58 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: I'm using debian, but I'd rather have thinks work properly than set up a static IP all the time. |
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| 07:49.26 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: No. Once I've set a static IP I can ping the router, but dhclient still times out trying to get an IP address. |
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| 07:49.44 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: But windows can connect fine using dhcp. (???) |
| 07:49.53 | liable | Erpo_: unusual, if you have authenticated, then it should work.. |
| 07:49.58 | Erpo_ | Here's the odd thing... |
| 07:50.09 | blkrose | Can anyone tell me how to reconfigure mplayer |
| 07:50.23 | blkrose | I mean, is there a specific command? |
| 07:50.34 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Something is blocking the dhcp broadcast messages. I have no idea what though. |
| 07:50.41 | Erpo_ | When I fire up ethereal and then run dhclient, it shows my machine firing off dhcp requests that go unanswered, and the router sending out SSDP packets on the wireless interface. |
| 07:50.47 | azeem | blkrose: no, I think you need to read the manpage and edit the config file |
| 07:50.59 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Hmm. So the request messages go out. |
| 07:51.09 | blkrose | I've tried to find the config file.. but I can't find it :( |
| 07:51.20 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Wait, where is this ethereal box running from? |
| 07:51.23 | Erpo_ | I'm thinking that maybe the router is remembering that my MAC has already leased an IP using UPnP and is trying to remind my computer of that. |
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| 07:51.29 | dannyp | ripple: MB. CPUs, if they're ever good, don't typically develop failure in the absence of heat problems |
| 07:51.40 | dannyp | and unless your behavior is as described above, it's not really consistent with heat |
| 07:51.40 | liable | Erpo_: does ethereal show the negotiation when you start it? |
| 07:51.51 | liable | Erpo_: when you start wpa i mean.. |
| 07:51.54 | Erpo_ | Ethereal is running on the laptop. It's the only device on the network other than the access point. |
| 07:52.16 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Do you have any other devices on the wireless network that you can run ethereal on? |
| 07:52.30 | azeem | blkrose: it's mentioned in the FILES section of the manpage |
| 07:52.30 | Erpo_ | liable: I haven't tried starting ethereal before wpa_supplicant. However, I know the wpa negotiation is going fine since I can connect with a static IP. |
| 07:52.38 | azeem | blkrose: you might need to create it, if it does not exit |
| 07:52.38 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: It could be that the dhcp request message is not going out. |
| 07:52.41 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: Nope. :( |
| 07:52.43 | azeem | s/exit/exist/ |
| 07:52.57 | looneybird_77590 | AAAALLLLL Right!! Up and running. Nvidia logo came up too. |
| 07:53.05 | bob2 | does WPA authenticate before or after you get an IP? |
| 07:53.10 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: It _could_ be, but everything else is going out, and when I start ethereal on eth0, it shows the packets going out. |
| 07:53.14 | timgoh0 | bob2: Before. |
| 07:53.21 | blkrose | ok.. THANKS! |
| 07:53.36 | bob2 | hm |
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| 07:53.51 | bob2 | I somewhat feel llike I should setup ipsec or something on my wireless network |
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| 07:53.54 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Ethereal is running on your local machine. It will recieve the packets before it gets sent out. |
| 07:54.00 | bob2 | tho I can use ssh or tinc for anyting I care about |
| 07:54.15 | tcsetattr | gg/ |
| 07:54.17 | Erpo_ | And in the very same ethereal capture session where I see the dhcp requests getting sent, I see messages from the wireless router. |
| 07:54.47 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Ah. But upnp shoudn't interfere with the dhcp process |
| 07:55.21 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: No, it shouldn't, but I can't think of any other reason why dhcp won't work. |
| 07:55.33 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Disable WPA. Does that work? |
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| 07:56.16 | Erpo_ | I can disable it. Then I get the exact same situation. Windows gets and IP dynamically assigned just fine, but linux's dhclient times out. |
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| 07:56.54 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Release the lease manually on the router and try to obtain a lease again via dhclient? |
| 07:57.08 | liable | Erpo_: is your router set to retricted access? or mixed mode? i am wondering if the negotiation is actually working, can you see text in ethereal from your irc client? |
| 07:57.37 | liable | err, thats prolly not worth anything.. |
| 07:58.16 | Erpo_ | liable: It has to be working. Setting a static IP after WPA negotiation allows me to ping the router. |
| 07:58.39 | blkrose | whomever wrote mplayer ought to be dragged into an ally and beat to death! |
| 07:58.49 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Tried the release thing? Maybe your router does not allow repeated leases from the same host. |
| 07:59.05 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: I don't think I can release the lease on the router directly. There's only a web configuration page and I don't see that option. |
| 07:59.18 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Power down the router and power it back up? |
| 07:59.25 | liable | Erpo_: only saying that because your iwconfig output showed mode open.. |
| 07:59.38 | liable | should be restricted.. |
| 07:59.56 | nkuttler | blkrose: yeah. write a better player while you're at it. |
| 07:59.57 | Erpo_ | timgoh0, liable: I'll try releasing my IP with ipconfig /release in windows before I reboot into linux. Maybe then it will hand me out another IP. |
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| 08:00.45 | Erpo_ | timgoh0: Worth a shot. It's my girlfriend's router and she's downloading patches right now, so it'll have to wait. |
| 08:01.11 | Erpo_ | liable: Why shouldn't the mode be open. What does that mean? |
| 08:01.13 | bob2 | blkrose: it's shitty code, but it works really well |
| 08:01.29 | liable | Erpo_: access mode |
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| 08:02.47 | Erpo_ | liable: What does the access mode do? |
| 08:02.55 | blkrose | sigh |
| 08:03.22 | liable | Erpo_: its in the routers config somewhere, take a look. |
| 08:03.35 | Erpo_ | looking... |
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| 08:05.04 | Erpo_ | liable: Don't see it in any of the configuration sections. |
| 08:05.27 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Exactly what brand and model is this router? |
| 08:05.33 | liable | Erpo_: i dunno, i would first try shutting down wpa-supp, and no security on the router and see if dhclient works. |
| 08:05.40 | Erpo_ | Linksys WRT54G |
| 08:05.54 | liable | Erpo_: then it is in there somewhere, i got one.. |
| 08:06.06 | Erpo_ | liable: I tried it. It doesn't. |
| 08:06.21 | liable | Erpo_: it does! |
| 08:06.31 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: Wireless tab, under advanced wireless settings. |
| 08:06.42 | timgoh0 | liable: The open/shared thing is for WEP only. |
| 08:06.49 | Erpo_ | liable: No, I mean I tried disabling WPA and it doesn't solve the problem. |
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| 08:06.56 | liable | Erpo_: oh |
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| 08:07.25 | timgoh0 | Erpo_: I have the exact same model and WPA works fine with DHCP here. What firmware revision are you using? |
| 08:07.35 | liable | Erpo_: stop wpa-supp, take down and bring up the interface and run dhclient |
| 08:07.53 | Erpo | liable: I've tried that. I get the same problem. |
| 08:07.56 | timgoh0 | Erpo: See the upper right corner of the web config page. |
| 08:08.09 | Erpo | v4.20.6 |
| 08:08.20 | timgoh0 | Erpo: Same version here. |
| 08:08.41 | timgoh0 | Erpo: You should be able to release leases under the Status tab |
| 08:08.45 | liable | Erpo: try another client.. pump or something. |
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| 08:09.05 | timgoh0 | Erpo: See "Local Network" under Status. |
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| 08:09.57 | Zak- | I've got a hard question to ask... seeing as many smart people exist here.. maybe somebody here can answer this puzzle. |
| 08:10.00 | Zak- | Complete the series: 5 2 1 7 5 2 4 6 3 3 7 3 8 4 4 3 5 ? (Give answer + explaination). |
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| 08:10.18 | Erpo | timgoh0: Found it. I'll try rebooting into linux, nuking the lease for my windows system, and bringing up the interface. |
| 08:10.22 | timgoh0 | Zak-: This is #debian, the debian support channel. You know that, don't you? |
| 08:10.28 | nkuttler | Zak-: 0ff-topic |
| 08:10.29 | timgoh0 | Erpo: Good luck |
| 08:10.45 | Erpo | timgoh0, liable: Thanks again. :) brb |
| 08:10.57 | Zak- | i know its off-topic... but perhaps somebody was able to demonstrate their intelligence |
| 08:11.05 | kokkoo | hi i have a serious problem... i added a third ide controller, and when i try to boot it, Grub hangs ..... any advice of how i can solve this? (ive tried with holding shift in but nothing happens).. |
| 08:11.06 | Zak- | or lack of haha |
| 08:11.10 | timgoh0 | Zak-: /join #debian-offtopic |
| 08:12.24 | liable | buggered if i can work it out. :( must be stue pid.. |
| 08:13.08 | nkuttler | kokkoo: try #grub |
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| 08:14.03 | nkuttler | kokkoo: can you start grub's command line mode? |
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| 08:14.38 | kokkoo | nkuttler : hmm no? |
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| 08:14.56 | nimak | often when i play videos using either totem or VLC, it inserts this nasty greenish, blurry blob, on the right of the video, i have an nvidia card |
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| 08:15.11 | nkuttler | kokkoo: use a rescue/live cd and inspect the system |
| 08:15.14 | kokkoo | nkuttler : i mean, if i remove the third ide controller, its all normal. |
| 08:15.15 | Dadu | shalom |
| 08:15.47 | nkuttler | kokkoo: just a guess, you may need to reinstall grub after adding a controller |
| 08:16.02 | Dadu | can you help me plz to encode xvid under Debian? |
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| 08:16.44 | HyperStream | using xchat when ever i try to dcc files or dcc chat i get: DCC Send from hyperstream rejected (invalid parameters) |
| 08:17.48 | tcsetattr | HyperStream, try to send me something right now |
| 08:18.14 | kokkoo | nkuttler : maybe, i dont know.. arent there any other cmd i can parse to grub before it hangs ? |
| 08:18.15 | HyperStream | did it pop up? |
| 08:18.20 | tcsetattr | whoa! |
| 08:18.23 | HyperStream | ? |
| 08:18.26 | tcsetattr | that was weird. |
| 08:18.31 | HyperStream | that long text of unknown characters |
| 08:18.44 | nkuttler | kokkoo: does it load stage 2? |
| 08:18.53 | HyperStream | ? |
| 08:19.04 | tcsetattr | the IP addres is a bunch of non-ASCII characters, and the port number is 259265! |
| 08:19.21 | Dadu | áðàòóõè, ïîìîãèòå ïåðåêîäèòü xvid âèäåî èç êîíñîëè. |
| 08:19.21 | Dadu | åñòü ôèëüì, ðàçðåøåíèå 600x400, à íóæíî ñäåëàòü 320x240 |
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| 08:19.48 | kokkoo | nkuttler : no. it says 1.5 and then hangs.. |
| 08:20.19 | HyperStream | tcsetattr, can you show me the line exactly plz |
| 08:20.20 | nkuttler | kokkoo: i would: insert controller, boot from cd/floppy, install grub |
| 08:20.25 | HyperStream | may help me on my debugging journeys |
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| 08:20.32 | liable | damn lappy hard locked.. |
| 08:20.46 | kokkoo | nkuttler : could you point me to a good rescue\live cd ? tnx :) |
| 08:20.47 | tcsetattr | uh, I lost it you'll have to do it again |
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| 08:20.54 | Mugsy_ | I installed a program with a .deb file, how do I remove it? |
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| 08:21.03 | nkuttler | kokkoo: i use knoppix for such tasks |
| 08:21.17 | nkuttler | kokkoo: but it's pretty overkill for your needs |
| 08:21.18 | BlueBeret | where are mixer settings saved? once I muted the sound in Kanotix, it is always set to zeroes after bootup. |
| 08:21.24 | kapil | kokkoo: dsl |
| 08:21.28 | tcsetattr | *** DCC SEND (ballpic.jpeg.JPG) request received from HyperStream [¥¥¥ðz¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥ðz:59954] |
| 08:21.35 | kokkoo | kapil : dsl ? |
| 08:21.35 | valdyn | BlueBeret: #kanotix |
| 08:21.38 | HyperStream | thanks man |
| 08:21.42 | tcsetattr | hey, 59954 is at least a legal port number |
| 08:21.53 | kapil | kokkoo: damn small linux |
| 08:21.54 | liable | sysrescuecd is minimal and has a fair set of tools.. |
| 08:22.03 | kokkoo | kapil : ooo.. url ? |
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| 08:22.13 | tcsetattr | maybe you got some broken IRC NAT helper in the way, or maybe this is some new ipv6 version of DCC? |
| 08:22.17 | BlueBeret | valdyn: is there so much difference? |
| 08:22.30 | kapil | kokkoo: dunno. www.dsl.org? |
| 08:22.33 | nimak | does this happen to anyone else? |
| 08:22.35 | Mugsy_ | How do I find out what packages are installed? |
| 08:22.38 | nkuttler | kokkoo: www.google.com? |
| 08:22.43 | valdyn | !kanotix |
| 08:22.43 | dpkg | kanotix is probably not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) |
| 08:22.48 | liable | Mugsy_: dpkg -l |
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| 08:25.53 | Erpo | Ok, serious weirdness. |
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| 08:26.47 | Mugsy_ | Whats the proper way to uninstall a program? |
| 08:26.55 | Erpo | Deleting my old lease from the router did nothing. However, I booted into linux and assigned a static IP so I could monitor the router's lease page while running dhclient to try to get a dynamic IP address. |
| 08:27.02 | valdyn | Mugsy_: you mean ' a debian package ' ? |
| 08:27.03 | tcsetattr | Mugsy_, apt-get remove is usually good enough. |
| 08:27.06 | liable | Mugsy_: apt-get install apt-howto-en |
| 08:27.15 | HyperStream | tcsetattr, not sure |
| 08:27.17 | Mugsy_ | I didn't use apt-get to get it though |
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| 08:27.21 | HyperStream | im thinking of downgrading |
| 08:27.32 | Mugsy_ | Thats what I want to do, uninstall it, then use apt-get to install it |
| 08:27.36 | valdyn | Mugsy_: read the docs from that software then, debian cant know it.. |
| 08:27.42 | nkuttler | Mugsy_: of course you won't tell us what you did |
| 08:27.46 | Erpo | Each time my laptop sent out a dhcpdiscover request, a 60 second lease showed up on the router's status page for my MAC. wtf? |
| 08:27.49 | Mugsy_ | But I installed it from a .deb file |
| 08:27.55 | tcsetattr | HyperStream, most days you'd have won the prize for weirdest program misbehavior of the night, but it's hard to beat jakelo this time |
| 08:27.59 | nkuttler | Mugsy_: then you can apt-get remove it |
| 08:28.00 | TurffHogg | can somone help me with a telnet/shell quistion |
| 08:28.04 | Mugsy_ | Okay |
| 08:28.11 | valdyn | !tell TurffHogg -about ask |
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| 08:28.34 | HyperStream | LOL |
| 08:28.36 | valdyn | Mugsy_: apt-get can remove debian packages, even if you installed them via dpkg -i |
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| 08:28.39 | liable | Erpo: hmm, check your dhclient conf. or try pump. can you plug it in and get a lease from cable? |
| 08:28.42 | TurffHogg | ok here it goes |
| 08:29.15 | Erpo | liable, Unfortunately, there are no cables handy. I'll try looking at my dhclient conf, though |
| 08:29.16 | nkuttler | fuck. i bought a power supply from ebay and it doesn't correspond to the producers specs and is useless. |
| 08:29.18 | Mugsy_ | valdyn: Okay, how do I get the name of the package that I use after apt-get remove |
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| 08:29.30 | valdyn | Mugsy_: how was the *deb file called? |
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| 08:29.49 | Mugsy_ | Installed? pkg - |
| 08:29.54 | Mugsy_ | pkg -i* |
| 08:29.57 | valdyn | Mugsy_: how the hell am I to guess what you installed anyhow? |
| 08:29.58 | Mugsy_ | dpkg -i* |
| 08:30.07 | TurffHogg | i have got shell on a server through telnet and hace found a pwd file and net to transfer it to me so i can crackit |
| 08:30.15 | Erpo | I'm running debian now, btw. I managed to get on irc after setting a static IP and adding a default route. |
| 08:30.20 | tcsetattr | everyone point at Mugsy and laugh. |
| 08:30.21 | Mugsy_ | valdyn: I dont know what you mean by called |
| 08:30.23 | maakad | what is name of programme? |
| 08:30.29 | nkuttler | Mugsy_: muahahah |
| 08:30.32 | valdyn | Mugsy_: you installed a file, WHICH FILE |
| 08:30.33 | maakad | Mugsy_: what is name of programme? |
| 08:30.45 | Mugsy_ | Its armagetron |
| 08:31.06 | valdyn | Mugsy_: dpkg -l | grep armagetron |
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| 08:31.24 | tcsetattr | TurffHogg, what are you, Unfrozen Cave Man Hacker/Kiddie? |
| 08:31.28 | Mugsy_ | ii armagetron-exe 0.2.6.1-15 A tron lightcycle game in 3D |
| 08:31.30 | Mugsy_ | Thats what I get |
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| 08:31.43 | TurffHogg | no im playing a game |
| 08:31.44 | valdyn | Mugsy_: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep armagetron |
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| 08:32.05 | Erpo | dhclient.conf is filled with comments and nothing else. The comments say that shouldn't matter. |
| 08:32.05 | maakad | Mugsy_: dpkg --purge armagetron |
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| 08:32.22 | valdyn | maakad: that obviously wont work |
| 08:32.30 | Mugsy_ | ii armagetron-executable |
| 08:32.33 | maakad | Erpo: what is matter? never mind. |
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| 08:32.42 | valdyn | Mugsy_: apt-get remove amragetron-executable |
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| 08:32.49 | Mugsy_ | I see, I think that was the problem, I couldn't get the full name of the package |
| 08:32.50 | maakad | valdyn: why for not? |
| 08:32.55 | tcsetattr | in the old days, when passwd files were not shadowed and people still used telnet to log in to things, you'd probably have used sz (Zmodem) or something like that to download files through your VT100 emulator running in MSWindows 3.1 |
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| 08:33.05 | valdyn | maakad: just b/c the package isnt called "armagetron" |
| 08:33.14 | Erpo | maakad, My dual boot system gets an IP via dhcp in windows but not in linux. |
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| 08:33.49 | valdyn | !interfaces |
| 08:33.49 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 08:33.57 | maakad | Erpo: looks like a conspiracy against linux. |
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| 08:34.25 | valdyn | Erpo: look what dpkg said.. |
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| 08:34.50 | valdyn | Erpo: or just read the faq |
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| 08:35.18 | Erpo | valdyn, /etc/network/interfaces is set up exactly how it should be, and there are no problems at the kernel level or lower. This is not a common problem AFAIK. |
| 08:36.00 | maakad | Erpo. Is DHCP server running linux? |
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| 08:36.09 | valdyn | Erpo: run ifdown <iface> && ifup <iface> and you might get useful debugging output |
| 08:36.44 | Erpo | maakad, The dhcp server/router/gateway is a Linksys WRT54G running some kind of linux. |
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| 08:36.59 | maakad | Erpo. If DHCP server is running on windhos... |
| 08:37.09 | Erpo | valdyn, ifdown says the iface isn't configured. ifup tries to run dhclient and times out. |
| 08:37.12 | maakad | Erpo. OK. Friendly DHCP server it is. |
| 08:37.13 | Erpo | maakad, It's not. |
| 08:37.20 | Erpo | maakad, :) |
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| 08:37.33 | valdyn | Erpo: on the correct interface? |
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| 08:37.45 | maakad | Erpo. What is log on DHCP server saying? |
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| 08:38.17 | Erpo | valdyn: Yes. I'm certain because it's the same interface I |
| 08:38.22 | tcsetattr | if you can't run tcpdump on the DHCP server, it ain't _that_ friendly |
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| 08:38.25 | Erpo | 'm configuring for wireless access. |
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| 08:39.03 | valdyn | Erpo: so the error might actually be below dhcp level, try setting the ip statically |
| 08:39.19 | Erpo | maakad: It's handing out 24 hour leases to windows. The log says it's handing out 60 second leases every time it gets a dhcpdiscover packet from my laptop, but my laptop never gets any dhcpoffers. |
| 08:39.19 | maakad | Linksys router is creating web interface. Are you having a second way of looking at that while attempting DHCP? |
| 08:39.35 | Erpo | valdyn: I have a static IP right now. It works. |
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| 08:40.05 | Erpo | maakad: I have a static IP while I'm trying to run dhclient. I have the configuration web interface open in a browser windows. |
| 08:40.14 | valdyn | Erpo: ah, alright, leaves me clueless, you could try the alternative dhcp client ( there's dhcp-client / dhcp3-client and more ) |
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| 08:41.05 | maakad | Erpo. Maybe Linux is insulted by quicky (60 seconds) and wants it to go on for longer. :) Sorry. bad joke. |
| 08:41.07 | nimak | does anyone have any idea whats causing my problem? |
| 08:41.31 | nimak | it really sucks eggs |
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| 08:41.50 | maakad | Erpo. Also "pump" which is serious name for DHCP client also. |
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| 08:42.02 | nimak | i can play the videos just fine, i just cant see what is being show |
| 08:42.03 | nimak | n |
| 08:42.15 | valdyn | nimak: /msg dpkg marillat, install mplayer, play with the -vo option, 'mplayer -vo help' or 'mplayer -vo gl some.avi' etc.. |
| 08:42.22 | tcsetattr | nimak, maybe you have an astigmatism. Consult an optometrist. |
| 08:42.44 | maakad | nimak. Hrrm. What is meaning? It is playing videos fine but nothing showing? |
| 08:42.58 | nimak | often when i play videos using either totem or VLC, it inserts this nasty greenish, blurry blob, on the right of the video |
| 08:43.19 | nimak | valdyn: it plays fine with mplayer |
| 08:43.43 | nimak | but mplayer doesnt provide some features that i need |
| 08:43.45 | kingsley__ | Are logs of #debian available, which are two months old? |
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| 08:43.55 | valdyn | nimak: mplayer uses X11 output by default iirc, totem will use xv by default if available iirc, not sure how to change that. |
| 08:44.00 | Phated | kingsley__: Someone, somewhere. |
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| 08:44.16 | nimak | can i just get xv to work |
| 08:44.17 | nimak | ? |
| 08:44.21 | valdyn | nimak: and i dont use vlc, but iirc you can change output method for it too |
| 08:44.46 | quitte | valdyn: the mplayer package asks on installation. dpkg-reconfigure should help |
| 08:45.09 | caphuso | mplayer is missing features? |
| 08:45.14 | valdyn | quitte: ah,neat, never tried that. |
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| 08:45.29 | maakad | nimak. In gvlc you are finding nice menu interface to select the video and audio output. Please select advanced configuration option first. |
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| 08:45.51 | yang26 | Where is font type defined for icewm windows? |
| 08:45.55 | Erpo | Testing? |
| 08:45.57 | Erpo | Can anyone still see me? |
| 08:45.59 | valdyn | nimak: your driver / hardware is probably broken, no idea what you can do. |
| 08:46.05 | yang26 | yes Erpo |
| 08:46.30 | valdyn | !test Erpo |
| 08:46.32 | dpkg | Testing Erpo... ROM BASIC NOT FOUND$#$ |
| 08:46.50 | nimak | nvidia sucks rocks |
| 08:46.59 | maakad | Erpo. Cogtio Epro Sam. |
| 08:47.24 | maakad | nimak. nvidia having good teeth no? |
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| 08:48.14 | nimak | maakad: no, theyre all rotten from the enamel being removed by the sharp rocks, and all exposed at the bases from gingivitis |
| 08:48.24 | maakad | nimak. Are you having tip-top nvidia card only? |
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| 08:48.37 | nimak | i have an older model |
| 08:48.45 | maakad | nimak. Are you running nv driver or vesa driver? |
| 08:48.54 | nimak | nvidia |
| 08:49.13 | valdyn | that error sounds nearly like static electricity |
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| 08:49.27 | valdyn | maybe you can provide a screenshot.. |
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| 08:49.29 | maakad | nimak. O. you are running proprietary non-free nvidia driver. Sorry for you. |
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| 08:50.06 | nimak | none of the other drivers worked, i couldnt get past 640x480 |
| 08:50.07 | deadcat | interesting. seems xorg hangs my ibook when splashy is installed. |
| 08:50.51 | maakad | nimak. Second thoughts. Helping. What about nvidia-glx stuff. Are you loading? |
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| 08:51.35 | nimak | yes |
| 08:51.44 | maakad | deadcat. Making cat live! Keeping splashy out. |
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| 08:52.15 | maakad | nimak. Are you seeing good response from glxinfo? |
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| 08:52.51 | liable | fuck it, my laptop is giving me no end of grief at the moment :( |
| 08:53.21 | nimak | maakad: nothing that i unerstand |
| 08:53.32 | maakad | nimak. Also checking output of xvinfo to see whether xv is working. |
| 08:53.43 | liable | hanging at post, hanging at grub, modem dropping out, hard lockups... |
| 08:54.18 | asmodaiii | hi folks |
| 08:54.19 | maakad | liable. life is liable to go wrong all at once. Sorry. Bad joke. :) |
| 08:54.41 | liable | maakad: indeed, bud pun :P |
| 08:55.10 | tcsetattr | Hello Cleveland! ha ha ha... JOKE! |
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| 08:55.32 | nimak | does direct rendering have anything to do with it? |
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| 08:55.39 | maakad | nimak. running 'glxinfo | head -10' to see whether direct rendering is working. Not for movies but for glxgears. |
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| 08:56.08 | Mugsy__ | apt-get cant resolve ftp.debian.org, but I can go to http://ftp.debian.org in my browser, do you know why? |
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| 08:56.12 | Lra_ | hi |
| 08:56.25 | nimak | hello |
| 08:56.36 | Lra_ | when using apt-get i've been told to enforce the APT:Force-Loopbreak option. how? |
| 08:56.36 | maakad | nimak. running 'vinfo | head -10' to see whether Xv adopter available. |
| 08:56.38 | valdyn | Mugsy__: if you are using a proxy then the proxy will do nslookups for you |
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| 08:56.57 | nimak | vinfo isnt found |
| 08:57.09 | nimak | do you mean xv? |
| 08:57.10 | Mugsy__ | valdyn: proxy in my browser? |
| 08:57.14 | valdyn | Mugsy__: yes |
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| 08:58.18 | Lra_ | any ideas? |
| 08:58.27 | maakad | nimak. yes xvinfo. |
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| 08:58.37 | Mugsy__ | valdyn: No, im not using a proxy |
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| 08:59.05 | nimak | it looks good, but i dont understand most of it |
| 08:59.12 | valdyn | Mugsy_: type 'nslookup ftp.debian.org' or 'dig ftp.debian.org' |
| 08:59.28 | nimak | what does "operations supported: PutImage" mean? |
| 08:59.43 | bob2 | "halcyon on and on" is still a top song, ten years later |
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| 09:00.03 | deadcat | maakad: hehe.. i journey with bootsplash->fbsplash->splash->NONE (= |
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| 09:00.22 | kokkoo | nkuttler : im back again :) with the rescue cd, can i just run grub and its all good ? |
| 09:00.35 | nimak | time for me to do some tv-watching |
| 09:00.45 | Mugsy_ | valdyn: Yea that worked |
| 09:01.01 | deadcat | bob2: so i have xorg+vga on the ibook problem seems solved.. i think its splash and the framebuffer stuff that hangs during reboot/shutdown |
| 09:01.02 | valdyn | Mugsy_: then you probably have a type in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 09:01.24 | valdyn | Mugsy_: or you are just imagining that apt-get cant resolve ftp.debian.org while the error is something else |
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| 09:01.36 | nkuttler | kokkoo: not sure, man grub, probably need to add some options |
| 09:01.40 | valdyn | s/type/typo/ |
| 09:01.46 | nimak | stupid weekend scheduling, my favourite show doesnt play |
| 09:01.52 | nimak | isnt playing |
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| 09:02.53 | Mugsy_ | Wait, now "host ftp.debian.org" isn't working |
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| 09:04.11 | toon_ | hey when i do startx there comes cannot exec /usr/bin/kde3 as i put startkde in the xinitrc |
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| 09:04.36 | deadcat | damn screen crashed (= |
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| 09:04.40 | Mugsy_ | valdyn: It has worked before, but now its not working |
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| 09:06.10 | liable | apart from memtest, what else can i use to try and track down hardware problems? |
| 09:06.24 | Guerin | liable: what sort of hardware problems? |
| 09:07.12 | liable | Guerin: its started hanging at post, hangs at grub, the modem is giving me grief and the cd drive is playing up as well! |
| 09:07.38 | liable | cant even boot from cd at the moment :( |
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| 09:08.17 | Guerin | liable: motherboard |
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| 09:08.30 | Guerin | that's the only thing all those components connect to |
| 09:08.57 | Mugsy_ | If I use "host ftp.debian.org" it resolves, but when I use apt-get, it says it cant resolve |
| 09:09.12 | Mugsy_ | Do you know why? |
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| 09:09.41 | aeronadix | man rpm sucks, but all business and schools, always choose rpm way |
| 09:09.51 | liable | Guerin: thats what i am thinking, was thinking only ide controller, untill the modem, but it works fine in windows, but in sid and etch, i have to bring down slmodem and up again, otherwise it gives no dial tone, then the fucker hangs up after negotiation.. |
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| 09:11.14 | Mugsy_ | Wait, aparantly any software cant look up hosts, maybe it has something to do with the DNS servers im using? |
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| 09:11.31 | Erpo | Well, still no luck with dhcp. Pump doesn't get a response from the dhcp server either. |
| 09:11.46 | Guerin | Mugsy_: likely. |
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| 09:12.23 | bob2 | deadcat: ahh |
| 09:12.52 | Mugsy_ | It always says: Temporary failure in name resolution |
| 09:12.59 | Mugsy_ | How do I find out what DNS servers im using? |
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| 09:13.10 | Guerin | Mugsy_: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:13.42 | Mugsy_ | Is there a program that will set that up for me? |
| 09:14.06 | Erpo | Mugsy_: In most cases it should be set up automatically. How are you connecting to you network? |
| 09:14.14 | Mugsy_ | In resolv.conf that DNS servers start with: nameserver? |
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| 09:14.28 | Mugsy_ | Ethernet |
| 09:14.37 | Mugsy_ | nameserver: 192.168.2.1 |
| 09:14.50 | Erpo | Mugsy_: dhcp? |
| 09:15.02 | Mugsy_ | Yea, but I want to change that |
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| 09:15.31 | Mugsy_ | Does the host command use a different nameserver then whats in resolv.conf? |
| 09:16.10 | toon_ | Needhelp, when i use apt-get install kde |
| 09:16.14 | Erpo | Mugsy_: Not as far as I know. |
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| 09:16.26 | toon_ | after the install kde3 is not in my usr/bin folder |
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| 09:16.41 | davi | What package has I to install to heard a ".ram" internet radio format ? |
| 09:16.52 | tcsetattr | mplayer can play it! |
| 09:17.12 | amphi | Mugsy_: you can tell host to use a particular nameserver |
| 09:17.24 | war- | how do I make it so I can choose another mirror with apt-get? |
| 09:17.28 | war- | with the dialog menus etc |
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| 09:17.49 | davi | thanks tcsetattr |
| 09:17.56 | Mugsy_ | amphi: I know, it works with the one in resolv.conf |
| 09:18.12 | Mugsy_ | Maybe apt-get uses a differen't name server? |
| 09:18.36 | Guerin | no |
| 09:18.48 | nksen | which video player do you use since mplayer is not in the standart apt-sources in sarge? |
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| 09:19.08 | Guerin | nksen: i use mplayer anyway, but both vlc and xine are reasonable |
| 09:19.23 | liable | so, is there any apps to try and diagnose hardware problems |
| 09:19.23 | nksen | Guerin: so you compile from source? |
| 09:19.47 | Guerin | nksen: no, i use packages from marillat (ask dpkg) or apt.cerkinfo.be |
| 09:19.56 | nksen | Guerin: nice, thx a lot |
| 09:20.24 | davi | tcsetattr, Why mplayer is not in the main repository ? |
| 09:20.39 | amphi | Mugsy_: I meant you can specify a nameserver on the cmd line |
| 09:20.42 | nkuttler | liable: look into ultimate boot cd. the manufacturers of some components may provide some tools. |
| 09:21.05 | liable | nkuttler: cheers. |
| 09:21.09 | Mugsy_ | amphi, I know, thats how I figured out, host ftp.debian.org 192.168.2.1 |
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| 09:21.42 | liable | nkuttler: if i can get the thing to boot from cd :) |
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| 09:23.16 | Mugsy_ | If I use gftp it says it cant resolve host, if I use ftp (command line) it works |
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| 09:23.42 | yang26 | Where is font type defined for icewm windows? |
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| 09:25.11 | yel | good morning everyone! |
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| 09:26.05 | yel | is there something like emerge --search "packagename" on debian ?? |
| 09:26.13 | tengulre | hehe... |
| 09:26.26 | yang26 | yel: apt-cache search package |
| 09:26.31 | davi | yel apt-cache search package |
| 09:26.32 | blackpit | apt-cache search pkgname |
| 09:26.34 | tengulre | now is 17:27:12 |
| 09:26.56 | yel | yang26, davi thanks :) |
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| 09:27.14 | davi | yel, I use gentoo too, and I can say it sucks. The gentoo stable has a good set of bugs :) |
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| 09:27.36 | davi | yel, Debian stable is great |
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| 09:27.46 | yel | davi, its my first migration :) |
| 09:27.56 | davi | good luck |
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| 09:28.05 | yel | iv never works with debian before |
| 09:28.12 | Safari_Al | Hi all. I've a debian "testing" system, up-to-date as of today, and whenever I try to start bind9, named just segfaults. |
| 09:28.19 | Safari_Al | Can anyone suggest a way to debug this problem? |
| 09:28.43 | yel | davi i am glad its not like gentoo installing its quite a bit easierer |
| 09:28.43 | bob2 | Safari_Al: what kernel? |
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| 09:29.10 | Safari_Al | bob2, 2.4.29-linode39-1um -- a kernel for the user-mode-linux suppoort needed on linode |
| 09:29.16 | svente | Hi there. |
| 09:29.36 | Mugsy_ | Maybe restarting my computer will fix it? |
| 09:29.58 | bob2 | Safari_Al: check the bts, I guess |
| 09:30.03 | Safari_Al | Mugsy_: I did a dist-upgrade and just rebooted, no joy. |
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| 09:30.27 | Mugsy_ | Safari_Al: You have the same problem? |
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| 09:30.51 | Mugsy_ | Safari_Al: Wait nvm lol |
| 09:30.54 | svente | Hi folks. I got a big problem after an apt-get update yesterday. Now dpkg crashes with a segfault |
| 09:31.00 | Safari_Al | Mugsy_: heh :) |
| 09:31.10 | Mugsy_ | Safari_Al: I was asking if it might fix my problem |
| 09:31.31 | maakad | svente: running sarge? etch? sid? |
| 09:31.35 | bob2 | svente: check dmesg |
| 09:31.35 | svente | I can't install or uninstall anything reight now |
| 09:31.42 | svente | unstable |
| 09:31.47 | Shorty` | hahaah |
| 09:31.53 | Shorty` | unstable is fun :> |
| 09:32.01 | svente | Not really atm |
| 09:32.04 | bob2 | svente: what kernel? |
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| 09:32.19 | svente | 2.6.10-kanotix-8 |
| 09:32.23 | bob2 | er |
| 09:32.28 | Shorty` | that's |
| 09:32.28 | Shorty` | not |
| 09:32.30 | maakad | svente: not running unstable. tending to roll down hill. |
| 09:32.30 | Shorty` | debian :/ |
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| 09:32.52 | kokkoo | oh well can anyone help me with reinstalling grub please? |
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| 09:33.05 | bob2 | why would you reinstall it? |
| 09:33.06 | svente | Well, it's not pure debian. But most packages come from debian.org |
| 09:33.10 | bob2 | you mean on the mbr? |
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| 09:33.20 | bob2 | svente: if you can reproduce it with debian, it's a debian problem |
| 09:33.26 | bob2 | if not, I'd be looking at #kanotix |
| 09:33.38 | svente | The told me to ask here ;-) |
| 09:33.48 | bob2 | they're useless then |
| 09:33.49 | asmodaiii | $> grub \n root (hd0,0) \n setup (hd0) \n exit |
| 09:33.52 | bob2 | mixing systems = your problem |
| 09:34.03 | maakad | kokkoo. in case of problem with grub. rename menu.lst. running grub-install, update-grub. |
| 09:34.15 | phar0z | hi |
| 09:34.28 | bob2 | which isn't being urde, just realistic; you can't expect us to know about whatever weird combination of other distrbutions other people might run |
| 09:34.34 | svente | It's not a mix. Kano only builds his own kernel, like I did before too. Never ran a debian kernel, alway needed something new. |
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| 09:34.47 | maakad | kokkoo. also remove /boot/grub/device.map. |
| 09:34.48 | bob2 | in what way is "kanotix" a distribution then? |
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| 09:34.59 | svente | or special. Kano has this in his default-kernel. That's all. The rest is pure debian |
| 09:35.18 | maakad | bob2. being unkind. with only kanotix kernel system is 95% debian. |
| 09:35.24 | svente | But that doesn'nt help. What can I do to reinstall a working dpkg-package? |
| 09:35.28 | bob2 | maakad: no, sorry |
| 09:35.30 | kokkoo | maakad : problem is that i have to remove the cdrom to put in the two last hdds when doing this, will this affect the device.map ? |
| 09:35.43 | bob2 | maakad: this channel is for Debian support, not for random other distributions that may be based on Debian |
| 09:36.01 | svente | dpkg is a debian tool. That's why I ask |
| 09:36.26 | svente | The packages come, like the libs from debian.org |
| 09:36.40 | maakad | svente. ok. giving dpkg version. if dpkg not running then check for status file. |
| 09:36.42 | liable | but its *not* debian.. |
| 09:36.43 | svente | Any Ideas except setting up a Debian-System |
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| 09:37.01 | Shorty` | how can you re-install dpkg if the dpkg package is fucked? |
| 09:37.03 | svente | Debian GNU/Linux »dpkg« Paketmanagement-Programm Version 1.13.9 (i386) |
| 09:37.10 | Shorty` | short of extracting the package manually. |
| 09:37.11 | svente | I installed it manually |
| 09:37.24 | liable | Shorty`: exactly, from a rescue cd. |
| 09:37.28 | maakad | svente. download dpkg deb for unstable and install it.. |
| 09:37.32 | Shorty` | re-install. |
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| 09:38.22 | maakad | svente. ok. to install dpkg on system where dpkg is broken. (1) cd /tmp |
| 09:38.35 | svente | Okay. 1.13.9 is the latest, did so. That worked. |
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| 09:38.39 | svente | Interessting |
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| 09:39.01 | maakad | svente. (2) mkdir /tmp/jangal. (3) cd /tmp/jangal |
| 09:39.16 | nkuttler | maakad: he already said he know how to do that |
| 09:39.22 | svente | maakad, dpkg itself seems to work |
| 09:39.35 | maakad | svente. ok. I stop. |
| 09:39.42 | svente | I just used it to install another version - wondering |
| 09:39.42 | maakad | svente. dpkg --version? |
| 09:39.51 | svente | Debian GNU/Linux »dpkg« Paketmanagement-Programm Version 1.13.11 (i386). |
| 09:40.08 | maakad | svente. then why saying dpkg is seg faulting? |
| 09:40.31 | svente | Beacuse of this, moment please: |
| 09:40.51 | maakad | svente. careful. pl. not pasting here. |
| 09:41.03 | maakad | svente. pl. pasting in #flood. |
| 09:41.14 | Dewi | could anyone give me a hint where to configure APM in debian? I want soft-off to "shutdown -h now" rather than do nothing.... |
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| 09:41.23 | svente | done |
| 09:41.27 | kokkoo | asmodaiii : tried to do grub \n root (hd0,0) \n setup (hd0) \n exit.. but still locks up |
| 09:41.31 | svente | Were only 4 lines |
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| 09:41.40 | nkuttler | Dewi: what do you mean? apm -s/-S? |
| 09:41.55 | svente | dpkg -r avifile-player crashes with seg-fault |
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| 09:42.11 | maakad | svente. missed the pasting. pl. giving me a pasting again. |
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| 09:42.15 | nkuttler | kokkoo: you can create a grub floppy that will boot anything |
| 09:42.33 | Dewi | nkuttler: I don't have an "apm" command |
| 09:42.39 | nkuttler | Dewi: there you go |
| 09:42.48 | kokkoo | nkuttler : there is no floppy on this server. only 10hdds :P |
| 09:42.59 | Dewi | nkuttler: when I shutdown debian powers itself off so it must have some awareness of power management |
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| 09:43.22 | svente | Sorry, localized shell |
| 09:43.24 | Dewi | nkuttler: also the fact that it is ignoring the soft-off button |
| 09:43.24 | svente | Error 139 |
| 09:43.31 | nkuttler | Dewi: could be acpi |
| 09:43.35 | Dewi | nkuttler: true... |
| 09:44.12 | Dewi | nkuttler: I don't have an ACPI command or manual either... |
| 09:44.17 | nkuttler | kokkoo: could you install grub? do you get to stage2? |
| 09:44.28 | nkuttler | Dewi: ... |
| 09:44.42 | maakad | svente. pl. running apt-get -f install. |
| 09:44.44 | svente | maakad, seen it? |
| 09:44.52 | kokkoo | nkuttler : i ran grub and installed on hd0,0 but it doesnt get to stage 2.. |
| 09:45.07 | maakad | svente. seen it but in less known language. |
| 09:45.13 | maakad | svente. pl. running apt-get -f install. |
| 09:45.26 | svente | Crashes, already tried |
| 09:45.48 | svente | strace ends with perl messages |
| 09:45.57 | liable | kokkoo: is the /boot dir on hda1? |
| 09:46.27 | liable | kokkoo: and is there stuff in /boot? |
| 09:46.33 | kokkoo | liable : yes. |
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| 09:47.18 | maakad | svente. pl. reinstalling apt-utils. |
| 09:47.23 | yel | davi, am i good with free-java-sdk for the sdk ?? |
| 09:47.35 | liable | kokkoo: so the install goes ok? |
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| 09:48.07 | svente | Always first wants to uninstall abiword-common and avifile-player, then crashes |
| 09:48.08 | kokkoo | liable : yes no problem, it identifies that its a bootable device and finds which filesys etc |
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| 09:48.32 | maakad | svente. dpkg --purge abiword-common avifile-player. |
| 09:48.36 | liable | kokkoo: you are replacing lilo i take it? |
| 09:48.40 | Dewi | could anyone tell me where acpi is configured in debian? |
| 09:48.41 | kokkoo | liable : but i cant get past stage 1.5 'GRUB loading, please wait' |
| 09:48.52 | yel | maakad, to be able to run tomcat am i good with free-java-sdk ?? |
| 09:48.54 | davi | yel, search the package blackdown at the http://www.apt-get.org unofficial web packages. And add the line to /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 09:49.12 | yel | okay thanks davi |
| 09:49.13 | svente | gives /var/lib/dpkg/info/avifile-player.postrm: line 14: 8285 Segmentation fault update-mime |
| 09:49.18 | kokkoo | liable : no, grub and the system itself is working perfectly when i remove the 3rd hdd controller. |
| 09:49.24 | davi | yel, then use aptitude or deselect to update the package list and install the blackdown package |
| 09:49.59 | davi | yel, for java I add this lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 09:50.01 | nkuttler | kokkoo: you may want to read http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Installation |
| 09:50.02 | davi | # java |
| 09:50.02 | davi | ### deb http://www.landshut.org/members/db1ras/debian woody all |
| 09:50.02 | davi | ### deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/freemind/ ./ |
| 09:50.02 | davi | ### deb http://fiasko.dyndns.org/~thomas/debian/ stable non-free |
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| 09:50.06 | liable | kokkoo: oh. |
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| 09:50.32 | davi | yel, uncommnet the last three lines |
| 09:50.43 | yel | okay thanks man! |
| 09:50.47 | liable | kokkoo: and you have / on the new controller, it doesnt work? |
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| 09:51.05 | kokkoo | liable : the boot device and the 3 other hdds are not moved in any way, they are on the mb. |
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| 09:51.21 | maakad | svente. possible problem with perl corruption. try 'update-mime' from command line. |
| 09:51.25 | davi | yel, check if this lines are good. Maybe they are outdated. |
| 09:51.31 | svente | Segmentation-fault |
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| 09:51.34 | kokkoo | liable :; thats correct. i guess there must be something with device.map ? |
| 09:51.46 | svente | Seems like the prob is more with update-mime |
| 09:51.51 | nkuttler | maakad: you're aware he's not running debian? |
| 09:52.18 | maakad | svente. corruption of perl <= corruption of bash. so your situation is better. |
| 09:52.29 | svente | grumble. /me feels like I'm running debian |
| 09:52.39 | Dewi | nkuttler: I don't seem to have an /etc/acpi directory, but I have detailed acpi information in /proc/acpi |
| 09:52.49 | svente | Wha5t would you suggest? |
| 09:53.10 | maakad | nkuttler. before v r thru he *will* be running debian! |
| 09:53.11 | nkuttler | Dewi: i see |
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| 09:53.37 | nkuttler | maakad: if you say so |
| 09:53.39 | AiglouNoir | hello |
| 09:53.42 | svente | I ran debian for 5 years. |
| 09:53.48 | kokkoo | liable : id probably be better off with reinstalling sarge, but id try and fix grub before that. |
| 09:53.59 | maakad | svente. perl --version |
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| 09:54.17 | svente | This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi |
| 09:54.42 | liable | kokkoo: just explain exactly what you do, that make grub barf. you change drives and controllers around..? |
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| 09:55.00 | maakad | svente. surprise. perl is not fully gone. |
| 09:55.07 | AiglouNoir | qui est francais svp? |
| 09:55.11 | nkuttler | !fr |
| 09:55.11 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 09:55.18 | AiglouNoir | thx |
| 09:55.19 | AiglouNoir | :) |
| 09:55.21 | svente | Don't understand that maakad |
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| 09:56.35 | kokkoo | liable : ok i have server, with 8 hdds, and it runs fine, but when i add the 3rd controller, and the last 2 hdds, grub does not make it past 1.5. hangs. |
| 09:56.40 | maakad | svente. perl at least giving version even tho. update-mime (which is perl script ) is seg faulting. |
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| 09:57.00 | svente | okay, manually replaces 5.8.7-5 by 5.8.7-3 now it ran through |
| 09:57.00 | kokkoo | liable : the original hdds and controller is not moved. |
| 09:57.09 | svente | Strange, stranger, the trangest.... |
| 09:57.11 | liable | kokkoo: ok, so ou dont move any others, just add new ones? |
| 09:57.16 | liable | right.. |
| 09:57.17 | maakad | svente. bravo. |
| 09:57.18 | kokkoo | liable : correct. |
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| 09:57.56 | AiglouNoir | hi, i have a problem with serverX > http://membres.lycos.fr/ddelec24/XFree86.0.log |
| 09:58.01 | AiglouNoir | can you help me please :) |
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| 09:58.22 | svente | Thank you very much maakad. You're a real open mind. Helped someone, who's not running a real debian ;-) |
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| 09:58.24 | maakad | holycow. pranaam. |
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| 09:58.59 | maakad | svente. v r the murgh. u will be converted. |
| 09:59.03 | maakad | :) |
| 09:59.05 | svente | Wondering, if everthing will be okay after dist-upgrade. Thanks an CU |
| 09:59.11 | liable | kokkoo: strange. dont see why it would do that. |
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| 09:59.27 | kokkoo | liable : me neither. |
| 09:59.34 | svente | I will be re-converted ;-) As I said I ran pure Debian for 5 years but found kanotix much faster to install |
| 09:59.38 | maakad | svente. pl. inform. on this channel. your system will remain a q. mark. until then. |
| 09:59.56 | svente | and with some usefull kernel-patches |
| 09:59.59 | svente | LOL |
| 09:59.59 | kokkoo | liable : could it be something with device.map? |
| 10:00.08 | Guerin | but you only have to install debian once... |
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| 10:01.23 | svente | Alright, I'll leave. Thanks again |
| 10:01.24 | liable | kokkoo: dont think so, i would look in bios for anything. theres actually bugger all in device.map |
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| 10:02.40 | maakad | off-topic query. in tirc suddenly screen has split. How to unsplit? |
| 10:03.24 | kokkoo | liable : bios is just fine. only option there is boot hdd0 |
| 10:03.39 | liable | maakad: /help window?.. |
| 10:03.52 | AiglouNoir | an idea for my problem? :( |
| 10:04.04 | maakad | liable. thanks. actually /help win. |
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| 10:04.31 | lindsay | hello, how can I access my samba shares via the konsole? |
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| 10:04.34 | liable | kokkoo: buggered if i know. |
| 10:04.39 | lindsay | well shares on the network |
| 10:04.44 | liable | lindsay: smbclient |
| 10:04.55 | pudo | hi all. is there a nice way to create a user's homedir dynamically upon his first login? |
| 10:04.58 | lindsay | smbclient <hostname> ? |
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| 10:05.25 | maakad | kokkoo. what is problem? |
| 10:05.46 | liable | lindsay: list, or mount and access? |
| 10:05.46 | lindsay | like in KDE I can go smb://computername |
| 10:05.55 | lindsay | and itll list the shares |
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| 10:06.08 | lindsay | I want to access the share |
| 10:06.25 | pudo | yeah, but ftp-style or as a mount? |
| 10:06.26 | liable | smbmount i think.. |
| 10:06.35 | lindsay | umm as a mount |
| 10:06.43 | maakad | AiglouNoir: what is problem? |
| 10:07.02 | AiglouNoir | i have a problem with serverX > http://membres.lycos.fr/ddelec24/XFree86.0.log |
| 10:07.08 | pudo | is there any script that is executed w/ root priv upon a users login? |
| 10:07.13 | liable | lindsay: man smbmount |
| 10:07.32 | lindsay | no man entry for smbmount |
| 10:07.37 | nkuttler | pudo: why don't you create the dir when you do adduser? |
| 10:07.44 | slept | lindsay, mount -t smbfs |
| 10:07.49 | lindsay | I can access it through KDE |
| 10:07.51 | pudo | nkuttler: mysql ... |
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| 10:08.23 | pudo | nkuttler: aka i don't have adduser |
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| 10:08.43 | pudo | and cron sucks |
| 10:08.49 | maakad | AiglouNoir: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and select correct video card. vesa not working for you. |
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| 10:09.11 | lindsay | got an example on using smbclient? |
| 10:09.37 | AiglouNoir | maakad: i have try VESA, nv, VGA and trident, always this errors :( |
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| 10:11.12 | Guerin | !noscreensfound |
| 10:11.12 | dpkg | [noscreensfound] probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. |
| 10:11.36 | Guerin | AiglouNoir: also /msg dpkg x md5 |
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| 10:11.40 | maakad | lindsay. smbclient like ftp client. |
| 10:11.50 | kokkoo | liable : does Your device.map file contain (hd0) /dev/hda or ...hda1 ? |
| 10:12.01 | liable | lindsay: the man page is pretty comprehensive |
| 10:12.01 | AiglouNoir | k ;) |
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| 10:12.19 | liable | kokkoo: /dev/hda |
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| 10:12.36 | kombi | there was something to be installed for make menuconfig to work, I got ncurses and ncurses-dev, but there was something else.. |
| 10:12.56 | Guerin | build-essential and libncurses5-dev |
| 10:12.58 | liable | kombi: libncurses5-dev |
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| 10:13.16 | kombi | Guerin/liable: I think I got those.. |
| 10:13.30 | kombi | let me check again.. |
| 10:13.43 | Guerin | !think |
| 10:13.43 | dpkg | Don't think. KNOW. |
| 10:13.46 | maakad | kombi. kernel source also! :) |
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| 10:13.58 | kokkoo | liable : please look here in #dumpdump |
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| 10:14.59 | kombi | all of it is there.. strange.. |
| 10:15.46 | kombi | "previos declaration of 'current-menu' follows non-static declaration" |
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| 10:15.58 | kombi | whatever that means.. |
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| 10:17.04 | maakad | kombi. cp .config .config.save. make mrproper |
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| 10:17.15 | kombi | makaad: I'll try that.. thx |
| 10:17.53 | kombi | makaad: ahem.. where is .config? |
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| 10:18.10 | liable | in the source... |
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| 10:18.52 | kombi | liable: which dir? |
| 10:19.04 | ozzloy | yay! i'm back! grub is once again the bootloader |
| 10:19.05 | kombi | ..might as well find -name it |
| 10:19.06 | liable | its a . file |
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| 10:19.15 | ozzloy | stupid windows |
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| 10:19.49 | kombi | find /usr/src/kernel-source -name .config: nothing found |
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| 10:20.13 | maakad | kombi. if .config not found then no problem. |
| 10:20.22 | liable | kombi: copy one from /boot and rename it .config. why are you compiling? |
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| 10:20.30 | kombi | maakad: ok, i just do make mrproper then? |
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| 10:20.59 | maakad | kombi. very important query from liable. why compiling? |
| 10:21.00 | kombi | oh, ok. Compiling because of >1Gig of ram |
| 10:21.02 | mousex | hi :)O |
| 10:21.17 | ozzloy | hi mousex |
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| 10:21.30 | maakad | kombi. very good reason. yes. make mrproper should work. |
| 10:21.38 | mousex | I just noticed that there are now two kernel packages: linux-kernel, and kernel-image. What's the difference? |
| 10:22.08 | nkuttler | mousex: the name is different |
| 10:22.17 | petrf | hello, can I increase screen resolution to 1280x1024 on knoppix 3.9? |
| 10:22.18 | ozzloy | they both say "kernel" so they can't be that different. same thing? |
| 10:22.32 | maakad | mousex. no such package linux-kernel. |
| 10:22.39 | ozzloy | petrf, does your monitor support it? |
| 10:22.39 | nkuttler | it's because there will be other kernels in debian in the future |
| 10:22.58 | mousex | sorry, linux-image |
| 10:23.00 | petrf | yes, I have Acer TM 660 |
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| 10:23.20 | mousex | nkuttler, suchas hurd, etc.? |
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| 10:23.32 | liable | mousex: yes |
| 10:23.42 | nkuttler | mousex: i guess bsd will be ready earlier |
| 10:23.51 | maakad | mousex. name change for political reasons. in stable kernel-image. later linux-image. |
| 10:24.04 | ozzloy | petrf, knoppix should get that for you. you might try /join #knoppix |
| 10:24.14 | mousex | If I want a newer kernel, then, should I choose the linux-image kernel package right now? |
| 10:24.15 | nkuttler | maakad: i wouldn't call that a political reason, rather technical |
| 10:24.28 | maakad | mousex. linus not liking debian giving credit to GNU but calling kernel kernel. :) |
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| 10:25.10 | petrf | ozzloy, thank you very much |
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| 10:25.33 | maakad | mousex. no. no. please not upgrading your nicely running stable system. |
| 10:25.39 | ozzloy | petrf, sorry not to be more helpful on that |
| 10:25.40 | kombi | maakad: hmm, that didn't seem to do it, copied /boot/config-2.6 to /usr/src/kernel-source/.config, ran make mrproper but no luck.. |
| 10:26.17 | maakad | kombi. perhaps kernel source corrupted in some way. |
| 10:26.27 | kombi | possibly.. |
| 10:26.30 | liable | kombi: you have of course untared the source, yes? |
| 10:26.42 | kombi | liable: lol, yes I have |
| 10:26.50 | kombi | good one though |
| 10:27.10 | mousex | maakad: I'm using testing anyway, and I can't do a dist-upgrade anymore because udev and other packages now require at least a 2.6.12 kernel, which is only in the linux-image section. |
| 10:27.19 | maakad | kombi. you can re-use /usr/src/kernel-source-x...tar.bz2 after removing kernel-source directory. |
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| 10:27.52 | maakad | mousex. ok. testing is good for testing out next debian. bts improves this way. |
| 10:28.01 | mousex | :) |
| 10:28.02 | kombi | maakad: you mean just untar it again? I'll do that next.. |
| 10:28.24 | maakad | kombi. pl. removing /usr/src/kernel-source first!! :) |
| 10:28.35 | mousex | thanks, guys. Got to get to class . . . |
| 10:28.48 | kombi | maakad: of course |
| 10:29.58 | kombi | makaad: hrmpf, still the same.. I promised I would do everything strictly debian on this box.. |
| 10:30.31 | maakad | petrf. istr xvidtune is on knoppix. all available resolutions available that way. |
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| 10:31.25 | maakad | kombi. still the debian way to build kernel. apt-get install kernel-source-xxx. cd /usr/src/kernel-source... ;make-kpkg --configure=menuconfig and so on. |
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| 10:31.50 | kombi | make-kpkg!.. |
| 10:32.10 | maakad | kombi. you are installing kernel-package are you not? |
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| 10:32.23 | maakad | kombi. apt-get install kernel-package. |
| 10:32.38 | slept | what can I do to know all the files I have to remove when I want to uninstall src which I installed with make install , or is there an easy way to make a .deb ? |
| 10:33.21 | maakad | slept. please wake up before asking question. It is still somewhat fuzzy. :) |
| 10:33.54 | fox-boy | odd thing... I'm installing kav2svcd and ./configure runs OK - says start make now... but when I type in ./make it says No such file or directory. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 10:34.02 | mejo | hello |
| 10:34.25 | kombi | maakad: kernel-package is there.. |
| 10:34.30 | maakad | fox-boy. not ./make only make |
| 10:34.52 | fox-boy | ok - i'll give this a try |
| 10:35.12 | slept | maakad, I don't want to do 'make install' for some src I downloaded from sf unless I know how to remove it |
| 10:35.24 | mejo | i use debian/testing on several machines, and on all of them i get a glibc error with recent (2.3.5-6) libc6 at upgrading several packages. for example at upgrading iptables to 1.3.3-2: |
| 10:35.27 | maakad | friends. are you familiar with old teco (editor) joke? type "make love" it says "not war?". |
| 10:35.33 | mejo | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0876e8a8 *** |
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| 10:35.57 | mejo | i cannot find a appropriative bugreport against libc6. |
| 10:36.12 | liable | slept: you can run make-install -n to see where it places packages.. |
| 10:36.17 | maakad | slept. agreed. just run make. or better still run make as a user or better still run make as a user in a chroot. |
| 10:36.18 | valdyn | mejo: is this a warning or an error? |
| 10:36.46 | kombi | maakad/liable: is this more telling: scripts/konfig/mconf.c:91: error: previous declaration.. etc. ? |
| 10:36.46 | slept | is there an easy way to create a .deb |
| 10:37.09 | valdyn | slept: 'checkinstall' is easy, works for some purposes |
| 10:37.29 | maakad | kombi. gcc -v. |
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| 10:37.50 | liable | kombi: what kernel source? |
| 10:37.51 | kombi | 4.0.1 |
| 10:37.58 | maakad | kombi. kernel source not proof against gcc 4. |
| 10:37.59 | kombi | 2.6.8 |
| 10:38.09 | slept | thanks |
| 10:38.10 | kombi | huuhhh.. |
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| 10:38.24 | kombi | what next.. |
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| 10:38.36 | liable | this is makemenuconfig anyway, nothing to do with gcc.. |
| 10:38.45 | kombi | true°! |
| 10:39.03 | maakad | kombi. install gcc 3.3 for compiling kernel. |
| 10:39.04 | valdyn | kernels < 2.6.12 cannot be compiled w/ gcc-4.0.1, nor make menuconfiged |
| 10:39.06 | liable | and 4 does compile anyway.. |
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| 10:39.20 | kombi | relieved.. |
| 10:39.38 | liable | Vixenos: no menuconfig? |
| 10:39.45 | liable | valdyn: ^^ |
| 10:40.06 | kombi | mais ca me gonfle.. If only I knew what causes the errer |
| 10:40.09 | kombi | or |
| 10:40.14 | maakad | istr README in kernel sources still recommending gcc 2.95. |
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| 10:40.23 | Guerin | just use 3.4 |
| 10:40.38 | Guerin | maakad: not any more - 2.6 won't build with it now |
| 10:41.02 | kombi | Guerin/maakad: how do you downgrade? |
| 10:41.14 | Guerin | kombi: you don't. |
| 10:41.20 | kombi | aham.. |
| 10:41.22 | Guerin | kombi: just use CC=gcc-3.4 |
| 10:41.25 | maakad | kombi. no need to downgrade. gcc many versions living together in peace. |
| 10:41.33 | Guerin | or MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4 |
| 10:41.34 | Guerin | " |
| 10:41.38 | xmas | kembi = francais ? |
| 10:41.39 | kombi | I like peace. |
| 10:41.46 | biosedit | whether gcc-4 |
| 10:41.46 | drac | makeflags does it for make/make-kpkg for sure |
| 10:41.50 | maakad | kombi. apt-get install gcc-3.4 |
| 10:41.51 | kombi | pas vraiment |
| 10:42.10 | Guerin | !kp mantra |
| 10:42.10 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is export MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4 HOSTCC=gcc-3.4"; make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image; |
| 10:42.12 | biosedit | whether gcc-4.0 is more faster than gcc3.4.3 |
| 10:42.16 | Guerin | !wayc kombi |
| 10:42.17 | dpkg | kombi: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
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| 10:42.31 | xmas | kombi je parlais de la langue hein ! :p |
| 10:42.34 | Guerin | biosedit: speed < quality |
| 10:42.50 | maakad | Guerin. kombi has explained. His ram is too big. |
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| 10:43.05 | kombi | thanks, you type faster than I.. |
| 10:43.18 | kombi | I'll try the mantra now |
| 10:43.42 | yang | I was told that it is good to unplug the UPS backup power supply here and there, to extend battery life, how true is that? |
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| 10:43.51 | Guerin | highmem 4G is built in ... he has more than 4G? |
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| 10:44.16 | Guerin | yang: google battery life |
| 10:44.25 | kombi | Guerin: Really? |
| 10:44.29 | Guerin | yang: summary: depends what kind of battery |
| 10:44.31 | maakad | biosedit: faster not better. newer not better. working = better. |
| 10:44.38 | Guerin | kombi: what kernel are you running now? |
| 10:44.43 | kombi | Guerin: 2.6.8 |
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| 10:45.02 | Guerin | kombi: grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 10:45.08 | kombi | cat /proc/meminfo sees only 1 Gig |
| 10:45.11 | kombi | wait.. |
| 10:45.24 | mejo | valdyn: it's an error. but i found bugreports now, and it seems to be a bug in libterm-readline-gnu-perl from testing. |
| 10:45.29 | Guerin | debian 2.6.11 kernels have it, anyways |
| 10:45.32 | yang | Guerin: i think those are ni-cd batteries |
| 10:46.05 | kombi | config nohighmem=yes |
| 10:46.16 | Guerin | hrm |
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| 10:46.20 | biosedit | i am hear my friends said gcc-4.0 is speed is very frighten so they uses the FC4 first for GCC-4.0 but now i uses gcc-3.4 |
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| 10:46.24 | kombi | 4G not set |
| 10:46.27 | Guerin | get the 2.6.11 or 12 kernel from etch or sid |
| 10:46.48 | kombi | Guerin: with apt-get? |
| 10:47.07 | Guerin | kombi: wget and dpkg -i will do it |
| 10:47.16 | biosedit | a lot difficult over 4.0 and 3.4 that like kernel 2.4 to 2.6 |
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| 10:47.20 | kombi | let me try that.. |
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| 10:48.31 | Mugsy_ | Right now my nameserver is my router, can I change it? |
| 10:48.42 | Mugsy_ | Or does it have to be my router |
| 10:48.49 | kombi | Guerin: spank me, but where is etch or sid.. |
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| 10:49.22 | liable | !spank kombi |
| 10:49.32 | bouma | Mugsy_: you want to change your nameserver or your router ?? |
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| 10:49.50 | kombi | you couldn't that one go by, could you.. |
| 10:50.04 | liable | course not.. |
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| 10:50.27 | kombi | where does one go though? |
| 10:50.35 | liable | kombi: google. |
| 10:50.46 | kombi | googling already.. |
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| 10:50.47 | maakad | kombi. just adding etch to apt-get sources and putting 'APT::Default-Release "sarge"' in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
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| 10:51.14 | Mugsy_ | bouma: I want to change my nameserver |
| 10:51.16 | maakad | kombi. then apt-get update. apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.11-.... |
| 10:51.22 | liable | esier to just get the image.. |
| 10:51.26 | Mugsy_ | Also where is my IP and stuff setup? |
| 10:51.45 | liable | Mugsy_: man interfaces |
| 10:51.50 | Guerin | kombi: packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 |
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| 10:51.58 | Guerin | kombi: it's not rocket science, mate |
| 10:52.02 | biosedit | Canada |
| 10:52.14 | liable | England! |
| 10:52.22 | Guerin | Beer! |
| 10:52.30 | liable | mmmmm |
| 10:52.32 | kombi | Pint! |
| 10:52.41 | maakad | liable. what-if problems with dependencies? |
| 10:52.53 | liable | maakad: such as? |
| 10:52.56 | Guerin | maakad: should be none, |
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| 10:53.22 | maakad | good. just worried. |
| 10:53.37 | jhaig | I've just installed Debian Sarge and I am trying to upgrade it to testing. During the apt-get dist-upgrade it stops with and error while replacing udev - "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1". Can anyone help? |
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| 10:54.30 | Mugsy_ | How do I change my IP to a static IP |
| 10:54.34 | Guerin | jhaig: that's not an error. |
| 10:54.35 | liable | jhaig: its ok, udev wont upgrade unless you have 2.6.12 or higher. (i think..) |
| 10:54.38 | Guerin | maakad: man interfaces. |
| 10:54.43 | Guerin | Mugsy_: ^^ |
| 10:54.46 | nkuttler | Mugsy_: man interfaces, man ifconfig |
| 10:54.51 | Guerin | maakad: sorry, i expect you know already. |
| 10:54.57 | Mugsy_ | Is there a GUI setup for it though? |
| 10:54.59 | ozzloy | i want to edit a file on my computer and have someone else be able to edit it at the same time from their computer as though we are both typing on the same keyboard. is this already available in some program? |
| 10:55.07 | Guerin | Mugsy_: yeah, your editor of choice :) |
| 10:55.13 | Guerin | Mugsy_: or you can use etherconf |
| 10:55.17 | Mugsy_ | Okay |
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| 10:55.29 | ozzloy | so when i type, they see it on their computer, and when they type, i see it on mine in the same document |
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| 10:55.35 | maakad | Mugsy_: under gnome you are having some netconfig applet or some such. |
| 10:55.39 | jhaig | OK, maybe it isn't an error, but it is stopping anything else from getting upgraded. |
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| 10:55.42 | Mugsy_ | Damb, dont have etherconf |
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| 10:55.54 | Guerin | jhaig: what kernel are you using? |
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| 10:56.05 | liable | !depends udev sarge |
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| 10:56.19 | jhaig | Sorry, no it isn't - everything else did get upgraded. Sorry to bother you. |
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| 10:56.28 | kaouete | yo |
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| 10:56.41 | Mugsy_ | What file is my IP settings saved in? |
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| 10:56.56 | liable | Mugsy_: read the damn man pages already! |
| 10:57.17 | Mugsy_ | Okay |
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| 10:57.31 | maakad | Mugsy_: if you are wanting GUI and under gnome go to system tools. You will find network config applet. |
| 10:57.37 | Guerin | bah |
| 10:57.40 | liable | Mugsy_: also, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ |
| 10:57.43 | Guerin | !gui tools |
| 10:57.44 | dpkg | Don't use gui tools for diagnostics unless you have absolutely no choice. Console-based tools give much more useful and sane feedback, and often are more configurable. |
| 10:57.49 | kaouete | Hi, is sid actually usable or should i wait a little more before upgrading it ? (because of breakoge with c++ api and things like that) |
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| 10:58.09 | streuner | kaouete: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 10:58.15 | kaouete | ok thanks :] |
| 10:58.16 | jhaig | Guerin: I'm using 2.6.8 but I am planning to get 2.6.12 built when everything else is set up. |
| 10:58.30 | maakad | Guerin: bah is right. but users are wanting. gnome team is putting effort. users are becoming like windhows users. |
| 10:58.32 | Guerin | jhaig: that should solve your udev issues. |
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| 10:58.47 | biosedit | /etc/network/interfacs you can't change it? |
| 10:58.59 | liable | jhaig: carefull doing that, cause if you upgrade udev with 2.6.12, then 2.6.8 wont work anymore.. |
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| 10:59.04 | Guerin | biosedit: you can make a symlink |
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| 10:59.22 | dpkg | udev: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), hotplug (>= 0.0.20040329-17), initscripts (>= 2.85-16), makedev (>= 2.3.1-77), sed (>= 3.95) |
| 10:59.33 | liable | dpkg: wake up! |
| 10:59.34 | dpkg | liable: I'm already awake! :) |
| 10:59.56 | maakad | dpkg. I am opinionated that like wayc you should have wayu (why are you upgrading). |
| 11:00.18 | Guerin | maakad: good idea |
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| 11:00.39 | kaouete | streuner: in fact i'm already using sid since 2 or 3 years, but i stopped upgrading it when there was breakage problem, so my question is not a general question but more a question about the c++ api transition that was happening |
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| 11:01.01 | maakad | upgrade is not like mt. everest. or nanga parbat. climbing becos its there. sorry their. (sp?) |
| 11:01.05 | Guerin | kaouete: the answer is "depends what you have installed" |
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| 11:01.14 | Guerin | there |
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| 11:01.25 | kaouete | Guerin: ok, so there is still some problems if i understand well |
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| 11:01.44 | streuner | kaouete: it will take months, so don't expect that those problems are solved in next future, effected is KDE |
| 11:01.44 | Guerin | kaouete: there are ALWAYS problems. |
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| 11:02.00 | Guerin | is kde3.4 installable yet? |
| 11:02.15 | kaouete | ooh ok, i am using kde, so i guess i will continue with etch |
| 11:02.24 | maakad | kaouete: running sid for 2 or 3 years. i am in your gratitude. you are going through so much pain for early alpha testing of debian. |
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| 11:02.40 | kaouete | hoho, it worked really good |
| 11:02.45 | Guerin | kde is all c++, so ... |
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| 11:02.53 | kaouete | hehe |
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| 11:03.09 | liable | Guerin: yeah, it seems ok. |
| 11:03.10 | Guerin | sid has never yet thrown anything at me I couldn't solve with four or five hours of painstaking effort |
| 11:03.25 | kaouete | yes and even that is rare |
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| 11:03.47 | siki | hey |
| 11:03.57 | kaouete | but maybe now etch is enough to have a good desktop |
| 11:03.57 | Guerin | siki: been tryin' to meet you |
| 11:04.03 | siki | hmm |
| 11:04.14 | Guerin | must be the devil between us ... |
| 11:04.15 | kaouete | Guerin: there is the official unnoficial package for kde 3.4.1 |
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| 11:04.23 | Guerin | kaouete: can't be arsed |
| 11:04.29 | maakad | Guerin, kaouete. and that is why we are grateful. because of your painstaking efforts. this is very serious. |
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| 11:04.36 | siki | Guerin, why do you wanna meet me?? |
| 11:04.41 | kaouete | maakad: ok :] |
| 11:04.42 | Mugsy_ | test |
| 11:04.53 | Guerin | siki: it's a famous song lyric you clearly aren't familiar with. |
| 11:04.58 | kombi | Guerin: dpkg -i, did that just install & link a new kernel? boy, that kewl.. |
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| 11:05.05 | siki | guess not :) |
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| 11:05.15 | Guerin | !pixiessmite siki |
| 11:05.21 | kaouete | ^^ |
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| 11:05.24 | kombi | let me rebouth.. |
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| 11:05.41 | siki | i want to install debian on my server but i dont know what version i need to pick |
| 11:05.51 | streuner | !d-i siki |
| 11:05.52 | Guerin | siki: stable. |
| 11:05.52 | dpkg | siki, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 11:06.02 | siki | the only demand i got is there are php5 mysql 4x |
| 11:06.13 | siki | dpkg k |
| 11:06.14 | dpkg | It's OK. OK stands for Zero Killed. If you keep on saying k, there won't be zero killed for much longer. |
| 11:06.14 | Guerin | siki: php5? why? |
| 11:06.16 | HyperStream | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.32 | siki | Guerin, i like it |
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| 11:06.40 | kaouete | siki: you can still use php5 package from unstable or maybe testing |
| 11:06.41 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 11:06.41 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 11:06.51 | ozzloy | is there a program that allows two people to work on the same document at the same time from different computers and see the other's changes in real time? |
| 11:06.53 | Guerin | HyperStream: dcc send is for child porn traders and warez kiddies. Use a real transfer protocol. |
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| 11:07.10 | Guerin | ozzloy: emacs can do this |
| 11:07.11 | HyperStream | no its a common protocol in alot of irc clients. |
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| 11:07.20 | kaouete | ozzloy: yes but i forgot the name |
| 11:07.20 | _Hug[o]_ | streuner: I got kdm installed here and set up right, and a background is configured, still I cannot see a background when kdm launches. How can I fix this? |
| 11:07.21 | HyperStream | i dont wish to use any other protocol's |
| 11:07.21 | Guerin | HyperStream: that doesn't make it unshit |
| 11:07.26 | maakad | siki: no. no. who is asking php5? Telling php4 is much better. |
| 11:07.29 | HyperStream | its not the point. |
| 11:07.42 | Guerin | ozzloy: screen and $editor can allow multiple people to use the same editor window |
| 11:07.53 | HyperStream | people wish to dcc to me. and i wish to dcc to people. |
| 11:07.54 | ozzloy | screen? |
| 11:07.55 | mernil | greetings and saluations fellow friends of free software :) |
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| 11:08.05 | Guerin | !screen |
| 11:08.05 | streuner | _Hug[o]_: run 'kcontrol |
| 11:08.05 | dpkg | screen is, like, like, allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and let's you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or apt-get install screen |
| 11:08.07 | ozzloy | are these available for windows too? |
| 11:08.15 | siki | kaouete is there a major difference between stable an unstable? |
| 11:08.23 | Guerin | ozzloy: emacs is ... screen might be, with cygwin. |
| 11:08.25 | kaouete | siki: ooh yes, just look at the name |
| 11:08.29 | kombi | that booted like a charm, still only one gig in meminfo.. |
| 11:08.33 | HyperStream | Guerin, and what protocol do you think is a good one. thru irc?!? |
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| 11:08.51 | siki | kaouete i mean how unstable is is unstable? |
| 11:08.59 | ozzloy | Guerin, what about vim, does vim do that? |
| 11:09.01 | Guerin | ozzloy: otherwise, you could do a fake-realtime sort of thing, saving the file after edits to a common webdav or ftp dir. |
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| 11:09.06 | streuner | _Hug[o]_: try 'dpkg -L kdm' to see if there is a kdemconfig thingie, it exists for GNOME... |
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| 11:09.10 | Guerin | ozzloy: i don't know about vim - probably. |
| 11:09.14 | HyperStream | siki, unstable = latest sources, and could be buggy |
| 11:09.17 | kaouete | siki: for example actually it is not even usable if you want kde |
| 11:09.18 | Guerin | HyperStream: http is good |
| 11:09.21 | ozzloy | interesting |
| 11:09.24 | HyperStream | heh http thru irc |
| 11:09.26 | HyperStream | nice one. |
| 11:09.37 | siki | kaouete, i want a server |
| 11:09.41 | siki | so no need for kde |
| 11:09.43 | _Hug[o]_ | kdemconfig? |
| 11:09.46 | Mugsy_ | How do I make resolv.conf be re-read? |
| 11:09.47 | ozzloy | Guerin, do you know the specifics of how emacs does it? what i would have to look for to get that going? |
| 11:09.47 | HyperStream | hey non httpd owner, host your file for m |
| 11:09.49 | HyperStream | me* |
| 11:09.52 | streuner | _Hug[o]_: kdm-config |
| 11:10.01 | HyperStream | not everyone has http, therefore they'd like to use dcc? |
| 11:10.01 | kombi | Guerin: 2.6.12 has nohighmem=y also.. |
| 11:10.01 | Guerin | HyperStream: http://feayn.org/~lewis/FCCSong.mp3 # worksforme |
| 11:10.05 | kaouete | siki: hehe, but dont use unstable on a server, you can just use php5 from unstable and the rest from stable or testing |
| 11:10.14 | siki | k |
| 11:10.14 | kaouete | i do this |
| 11:10.17 | liable | Mugsy_: you dont need to do anything |
| 11:10.25 | siki | thx :) |
| 11:10.25 | Guerin | kombi: 2.6.11 definitely has 4g highmem support |
| 11:10.26 | HyperStream | Guerin, so your gonna provide my friends that dont have any hosting with hosting? |
| 11:10.28 | _Hug[o]_ | streuner: nothing in: existenz:/home/emurz# dpkg -L kdm | grep kdm-config |
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| 11:10.50 | Guerin | HyperStream: no, i'm going to say to them "stop being useless and run a httpd or ftpd" |
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| 11:10.53 | ozzloy | thanx Guerin |
| 11:10.58 | HyperStream | windows users. |
| 11:11.00 | HyperStream | gamers. |
| 11:11.01 | kombi | Guerin: I'll try and find that then |
| 11:11.02 | HyperStream | girlies |
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| 11:11.18 | HyperStream | so i would have to disagree about the dcc :) |
| 11:11.33 | HyperStream | and why is it a stupid protocol ? and not a real one ? |
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| 11:11.47 | Guerin | HyperStream: for the reasons you're experiencing now |
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| 11:11.54 | HyperStream | its a xchat bug |
| 11:11.58 | Guerin | HyperStream: it's badly implemented and poorly documented and flakkey |
| 11:12.00 | ozzloy | speaking of girlies, i found one earlier today who knows more about gentoo than i do. not that i know a whole lot about linux in general, but to my knowledge, she's a first |
| 11:12.03 | kombi | Guerin: but come to thing of it, would it be completely against debian codexes to compile one from kernel.org (like I usually do)? |
| 11:12.03 | HyperStream | the reason for this is the developers of xchat |
| 11:12.05 | Guerin | HyperStream: so don't use xchat |
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| 11:12.09 | siki | is mysql version 4x in stable? |
| 11:12.11 | HyperStream | grr |
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| 11:12.17 | streuner | _Hug[o]_: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kdm&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
| 11:12.18 | Guerin | kombi: it's just a waste of time and energy |
| 11:12.25 | Guerin | siki: yes |
| 11:12.26 | ozzloy | as far as i know i've never met another girl who knew more than me about unix-ness |
| 11:12.31 | siki | good :) |
| 11:12.34 | siki | i love debian |
| 11:12.38 | kombi | Guerin: well, I would have got it by now though.. |
| 11:12.40 | streuner | _Hug[o]_: usr/bin/kdm_config sounds promising |
| 11:12.40 | Guerin | ozzloy: you don't hang out with the right crowd |
| 11:12.45 | liable | !love siki |
| 11:12.48 | xwolf | HyperStream: that has most likely nothing to do with xchat, i have used dcc with xchat as millions of others, too |
| 11:12.48 | kombi | but I keep going debian now.. |
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| 11:12.53 | siki | hmm |
| 11:12.57 | siki | im not into bots |
| 11:13.01 | siki | sorry |
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| 11:13.02 | HyperStream | xwolf, thats what im thinking |
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| 11:13.04 | nerdy2 | in addition to guerin's valid complaints, it's a pain to dcc from behind NAT |
| 11:13.07 | HyperStream | so it must be a issue on my box |
| 11:13.17 | HyperStream | perhaps because im using the latest unstable? |
| 11:13.28 | liable | perhaps? |
| 11:13.28 | ozzloy | Guerin, really? where should i hang out then? cuz this is a welcome change |
| 11:13.39 | xwolf | more likely some nat firewall, cause as you have experienced, its a shitty protocol |
| 11:13.44 | HyperStream | Guerin, what irc client do you prefer? |
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| 11:13.54 | maakad | siki. ask not for who the bots, belle! The bots are for thee. |
| 11:14.03 | ozzloy | oh wait, i guess i should specify "in real life". i'm sure i've gotten help from many girlies on the irc |
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| 11:14.29 | HyperStream | ozzloy, if you did, problerly not the most best looking |
| 11:14.33 | ozzloy | holy schnikeys, i need to go to sleep |
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| 11:14.36 | HyperStream | if thats what your chasing ofcourse |
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| 11:14.50 | liable | HyperStream: why do you say that? |
| 11:14.53 | HyperStream | Guerin, ? |
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| 11:15.00 | ozzloy | HyperStream, best looking == who cares? |
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| 11:15.22 | HyperStream | liable, i guess i should take that back |
| 11:15.23 | HyperStream | :/ |
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| 11:15.40 | maakad | i would like to learn to use curl for irc. |
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| 11:15.58 | liable | HyperStream: indeed, it is an unfounded stereotipic comment :P |
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| 11:16.11 | HyperStream | liable, dammit i dont even understand them words:/ |
| 11:16.18 | liable | haha |
| 11:16.18 | ozzloy | HyperStream, best looking doesn't really do anything for me. seriously, it can be a turn off because to me its associated with skinny waif empty headedness. even though that's unfair to assume, it's hard not to |
| 11:16.29 | nerdy2 | anyways it's silly to ask for free hosting anyways, this has existed for a very long time [geocities?] |
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| 11:16.39 | nerdy2 | if you must |
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| 11:16.54 | maakad | ozzloy. the thinner the wire the greater the resistance. |
| 11:17.00 | Guerin | bah. fuckign network |
| 11:17.07 | HyperStream | liable, i have been out showen by a female yet again -_- |
| 11:17.11 | ozzloy | hehe, that's an electrical engineering joke |
| 11:17.25 | ozzloy | good times |
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| 11:17.34 | liable | HyperStream: you havent met enough then :P |
| 11:17.46 | Dewi | ozzloy: I know plenty of hot women who are very intelligent. Not computer geeks though, unfortunately. |
| 11:17.47 | HyperStream | well that would be correct |
| 11:17.48 | HyperStream | :) |
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| 11:17.50 | Guerin | HyperStream: irssi-text is the best irc client, bar none |
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| 11:17.58 | nirr | hi.. my box got a worm and im trying to kill the perl scrip it is running but kill doesnt kill it. any other way? |
| 11:18.08 | HyperStream | unfortunately there doesnt seem to be many |
| 11:18.11 | maakad | Guerin: what about curl? |
| 11:18.11 | kaouete | kill -9 ? |
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| 11:18.14 | Mugsy_ | I can either get a game in glibc, or libc5, what one works with Debian? |
| 11:18.20 | HyperStream | cept msn. *shivers* |
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| 11:18.36 | streuner | nirr: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 11:18.58 | HyperStream | Guerin, it has a interface? |
| 11:19.02 | maakad | Mugsy_: stick with glibc. |
| 11:19.05 | HyperStream | gui i should say |
| 11:19.13 | nirr | streuner: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 11:19.15 | liable | HyperStream: no, its telepathic.. |
| 11:19.21 | nirr | kaouete: worked :) |
| 11:19.26 | HyperStream | liable, got a pic ? like hosted ? just wondering about my thoery |
| 11:19.30 | maakad | HyperStream: thats a gui thing. |
| 11:19.33 | Dewi | HyperStream: no, it's text based |
| 11:19.35 | eXistenZ | streuner: I even tried re-installing kdm, still, however, I cannot get my background done =/ |
| 11:19.38 | Guerin | maakad: hah |
| 11:19.39 | liable | HyperStream: of me? |
| 11:19.41 | HyperStream | yeah i prefer gui |
| 11:19.48 | HyperStream | liable, yeah |
| 11:19.53 | kaouete | nirr: good :] |
| 11:19.54 | Dewi | HyperStream: blasphemer! |
| 11:19.59 | liable | HyperStream: i am not a woman.. |
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| 11:20.00 | HyperStream | blasphemer? |
| 11:20.02 | HyperStream | meaning |
| 11:20.05 | ozzloy | Dewi, what is it about computers? i know nearly no women who know computers |
| 11:20.06 | Dewi | irssi is better than any GUI-based irc, that's for sure |
| 11:20.06 | HyperStream | liable, eek |
| 11:20.10 | maakad | HyperStream: you prefer gui's? I thought you just said something different. |
| 11:20.11 | HyperStream | i should die now thnx |
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| 11:20.30 | nathan__ | hay |
| 11:20.33 | Dewi | ozzloy: same. and I went to university. Even the girls in my course kind of... don't actually like computers. |
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| 11:20.56 | nathan__ | im a woman |
| 11:21.00 | ozzloy | yeah! what's up with that? that's why i was so surprised earlier |
| 11:21.24 | nathan__ | woman are coo |
| 11:21.26 | nathan__ | cool |
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| 11:21.34 | HyperStream | liable, just the defense you put up |
| 11:21.35 | charolastra | hello |
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| 11:21.38 | maakad | laible: you are too polite. besides lia-belle. and so on. |
| 11:21.38 | HyperStream | a common woman thing |
| 11:21.39 | HyperStream | :) |
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| 11:21.43 | ozzloy | biologically male though |
| 11:21.44 | HyperStream | AHAHAHHA |
| 11:21.56 | HyperStream | maakad, you made me laugh. not again please |
| 11:22.15 | maakad | Real Men like curl(s). |
| 11:22.17 | ozzloy | wait, liable is a woman? |
| 11:22.25 | HyperStream | ozzloy, were not sure |
| 11:22.25 | ozzloy | kidding |
| 11:22.26 | xwolf | liable: you know, anybody on irc who has a not clearly male nick like foo_m is female ;) |
| 11:22.29 | streuner | nathan_: ok, did you read /topic yet? |
| 11:22.41 | liable | xwolf: sure, wanna date? |
| 11:22.47 | HyperStream | lol |
| 11:22.53 | nathan__ | no what is it? |
| 11:22.55 | ozzloy | did nathan pm someone? |
| 11:23.02 | kombi | any woman on here for real? |
| 11:23.10 | maakad | xwolf: i think you confuse nick with the other word *ick. |
| 11:23.11 | streuner | nathan_: you are in a debian help channel |
| 11:23.20 | kombi | right.. |
| 11:23.20 | Dewi | since when does curl have anything to do with irc? |
| 11:23.42 | maakad | we curl(s) can do anything you gui's can. |
| 11:23.50 | ozzloy | har har har |
| 11:23.54 | liable | oh dear.. |
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| 11:24.07 | Dewi | this is getting out of hand |
| 11:24.08 | kombi | people, I give up on recompiling my kernel debian style, it just does not happen.. |
| 11:24.10 | Dewi | somebody DOS freenode |
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| 11:24.12 | HyperStream | LoL |
| 11:24.23 | xwolf | liable: sure, when ;) |
| 11:24.30 | ozzloy | kombi, i did it once! |
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| 11:24.34 | maakad | kombi: read the help files for kernel-package very carefully. |
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| 11:24.46 | kombi | so did I, but this time it's tough |
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| 11:25.05 | liable | kombi: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=make+menuconfig+gcc4&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 11:25.10 | HyperStream | kombi, what issues you having? |
| 11:25.18 | maakad | kombi: for the time being forget menuconfig. |
| 11:25.43 | kombi | liable: if only I could paste from epic, what does it say there? |
| 11:25.52 | ozzloy | i'm off now. thanx all. it was a fantastic discussion |
| 11:25.58 | HyperStream | bye |
| 11:25.59 | Mugsy_ | Is there a debian package for .rar files? |
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| 11:26.08 | HyperStream | apt-get install unrar |
| 11:26.08 | streuner | Mugsy_: rar |
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| 11:26.18 | streuner | !info rar |
| 11:26.19 | dpkg | rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (sid), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 419 kB |
| 11:26.21 | kombi | makaad: and do what instead? |
| 11:26.22 | liable | Mugsy_: dude, learn apt-cache search.. |
| 11:26.36 | streuner | eXistenZ: i don't use KDE |
| 11:26.41 | eXistenZ | streuner: gnome? |
| 11:26.45 | streuner | no |
| 11:26.47 | liable | Mugsy_: or google or something. |
| 11:27.00 | maakad | kombi: just copy the config that came with the kernel or an older kernel and run make-kpkg. |
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| 11:27.13 | Mugsy_ | liable: I did search for it in apt-cache search, nothing |
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| 11:27.23 | liable | Mugsy_: in non-free |
| 11:27.23 | maakad | kombi: cp /boot/config-2.6.xxx /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.../.config |
| 11:27.30 | liable | !info unrar sarge |
| 11:27.31 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-0.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
| 11:27.36 | streuner | _Hu: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kdm&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
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| 11:27.50 | liable | !tell Mugsy_ about search |
| 11:28.11 | streuner | eXistenZ: etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc - take a look into that file then |
| 11:29.27 | streuner | eXistenZ: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 11:29.51 | Mugsy_ | Should I have unrar in my apt-cache? |
| 11:29.55 | liable | !epic |
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| 11:31.05 | Mugsy_ | Can someone tell me a deb package dir I can put in my sources.list that should have unrar? |
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| 11:31.07 | eXistenZ | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 11:31.26 | liable | Mugsy_: non-free |
| 11:31.41 | liable | Mugsy_: append it to your source line, contrib too.. |
| 11:32.00 | kombi | makaad: hrmpf, that fails as well [stamp-kernel-configure].. |
| 11:32.13 | liable | Mugsy_: deb ftp;blah blah main contrib non-free |
| 11:32.17 | streuner | eXistenZ: and you are running the KDE version out of sarge or a backport? |
| 11:32.21 | Mugsy_ | Okay |
| 11:32.31 | liable | Mugsy_: then update.. |
| 11:32.34 | eXistenZ | sarge |
| 11:32.36 | maakad | kombi: have you been using gcc-3.4 as suggested? |
| 11:32.43 | eXistenZ | streuner: this problem has started lately, out of the blue. |
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| 11:32.48 | liable | Mugsy_: apt-get install apt-howto-en |
| 11:32.54 | kombi | maakad: yip.. |
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| 11:33.01 | djp | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.12 | streuner | eXistenZ: what did you change? |
| 11:33.18 | liable | djp: just for system mail. |
| 11:33.20 | eXistenZ | nothing! |
| 11:33.28 | Dewi | Mugsy_: you may need to add a "contrib" or "non-free" source to your apt sources list. |
| 11:33.33 | eXistenZ | I don't know what has happened. |
| 11:33.45 | kombi | people: could I please hand-roll my very own customized kernel straight from Linus while we all still stay friends? |
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| 11:33.51 | Dewi | Mugsy_: but as I read scrollback, you've already learned this. |
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| 11:34.03 | djp | liable, ah, so for a stand-alone desktop it would be pretty much unnecessary right? |
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| 11:34.10 | liable | kombi: you need a 2.6.12 for gcc-4 |
| 11:34.25 | maakad | kombi: this is just as a test so you should be able to do make-kpkg. |
| 11:34.30 | Zugschlus | djp: even on a stand-alone desktop, local processes might want to sent out e-mail |
| 11:34.32 | liable | djp: yeah, just have it listen on localhost for system mail |
| 11:34.43 | Zugschlus | this is, however, one of the most-discussed items in e-mail nowadays |
| 11:34.45 | maakad | kombi: just for safety do a 'make oldconfig'. |
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| 11:34.52 | kombi | liable: understood.. |
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| 11:34.56 | kombi | maakad: ok.. |
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| 11:34.56 | eXistenZ | streuner: I think it doesn't have anything to do with configs, there is something different =/ |
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| 11:35.22 | djp | thanks liable. i believe that is what i chose when i did my install of debian. i think it was the default or recommended choice. |
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| 11:35.32 | liable | kombi: is epic a term irc client? |
| 11:35.49 | streuner | !info epic4 |
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| 11:35.51 | dpkg | epic4: (epic irc client, version 4), section net, is optional. Version: 1:2.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 422 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB |
| 11:36.08 | streuner | liable: like irssi |
| 11:36.14 | liable | ah |
| 11:36.21 | liable | kombi: install gpm. |
| 11:36.28 | maakad | liable: indeed. epic4 is a text-based client. |
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| 11:36.56 | maakad | streuner: no. not like irssi. much worse^H^H^H^H^Hbetter. |
| 11:37.26 | kassnadra | hola |
| 11:37.36 | kassnadra | alguien que hable en español? |
| 11:37.42 | liable | hola |
| 11:37.52 | streuner | !es |
| 11:37.52 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:38.01 | kassnadra | hola, de done eres |
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| 11:39.00 | Dewi | epic and bitchx are just horrible horrible hacks of the old ircii |
| 11:39.04 | Dewi | they are nasty and should be avoided |
| 11:40.09 | kombi | Dewi: is that so? I only know epic, is ircii comand line as well? |
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| 11:40.25 | liable | !best irc client |
| 11:40.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
| 11:40.41 | Dewi | kombi: ircii is like... the original irc client |
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| 11:40.47 | Dewi | kombi: as far as I know. it's veeery old. |
| 11:40.57 | kombi | (spending my time while 2.6.13 downloads) so command line? |
| 11:40.57 | streuner | !start a IRC-client war |
| 11:41.08 | liable | kombi: anyway, install gpm to paste from console.. |
| 11:41.11 | Dewi | kombi: yes. it predates X windows by a long time |
| 11:41.17 | moreon | using ircii for IRC is like using Internet Explorer v3 to browse the web. |
| 11:41.23 | Mugsy_ | How do I find out if I have libc5? |
| 11:41.44 | kombi | liable: but that only makes sense when you have x also, right? |
| 11:41.52 | liable | kombi: no |
| 11:41.53 | maakad | Mugsy_: 'apt-get install libc5'. |
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| 11:42.02 | Dewi | speaking of paste... does anyone have any idea why "xclipboard" would be the only program for which VNC clipboard sharing actually works? nothing in gnome works and I have to manually transfer everything via xclipboard... |
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| 11:42.07 | liable | !info gpm |
| 11:42.10 | dpkg | gpm: (General Purpose Mouse Interface), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.19.6-21 (sid), Packaged size: 202 kB, Installed size: 496 kB |
| 11:42.24 | maakad | Dewi: what about vino? |
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| 11:42.35 | Dewi | maakad: not using vino because I don't have a monitor |
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| 11:42.54 | kombi | liable: I get it, the thing is just that the next browser (besides lynx of course) is on a different machine.. |
| 11:42.55 | Phated | You can use gnome without a monitor now? |
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| 11:43.05 | liable | gotta feed the worms, brb |
| 11:43.08 | Dewi | Phated: if you ssh in and start gnome on a VNC xserver, yeah |
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| 11:43.14 | kombi | ah, there it is.. |
| 11:43.16 | maakad | Dewi. much impressed. using vnc without monitor. |
| 11:43.17 | Pfated | Ah, fair enough. |
| 11:43.18 | liable | kombi: well install one! |
| 11:43.19 | Dewi | Phated: it has a few problems. like it doesn't "log out" properly, and clipboard won't work for me |
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| 11:43.38 | Dewi | maakad: yeah, I just added "gnome-session" to the "xstart" script in the .vnc folder. it's nifty. |
| 11:43.40 | kombi | liable: no desktop here.. |
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| 11:43.55 | liable | kombi: links..et al |
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| 11:43.56 | Dewi | maakad: so I just "ssh user@host vncserver" and then vnc works |
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| 11:44.27 | maakad | Dewi: fantooshtic. |
| 11:44.30 | Dewi | maakad: but when I log off the whole X session doesn't pull down, I get some ghost processes |
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| 11:44.55 | Dewi | not that I log off often - only when a reboot is coming |
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| 11:45.04 | maakad | Dewi: you can past using xsel too. |
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| 11:45.30 | maakad | s/past/paste/ |
| 11:45.34 | mernil | how big is dropline? it says you need 1Gb free diskspace.. but isn't that a little much? |
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| 11:45.40 | Dewi | maakad: hmmm. I'll have a look at that. I have never used it. |
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| 11:50.45 | Mugsy_ | How do I install a package with dpkg so that it is verbose? |
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| 11:51.13 | abrotman | !moo |
| 11:51.13 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 11:51.34 | abrotman | Mugsy_: man dpkg shows nohitng? |
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| 11:56.21 | mentor | hmmm, how do I define which MAC address an ethernet bridge uses under linux. |
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| 12:00.39 | Mugsy_ | How do I check if I have libc5? |
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| 12:01.17 | mfrisch | Mugsy_ locate libc5...dpkg -l|grep libc5 |
| 12:01.18 | streuner | Mugsy_: the usual command you use always, dpkg -l package |
| 12:01.23 | maakad | Mugsy_: you can get libc5. 'apt-get install libc5' |
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| 12:02.06 | maakad | folks. serious problem. forgot password for nickserv. how to get back? |
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| 12:02.51 | eXistenZ | maakad: pray for god. |
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| 12:03.00 | streuner | maakad: /msg nickserv help |
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| 12:03.36 | eXistenZ | maakad: you may ask in the staff channel. msg some irc op. |
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| 12:05.10 | streuner | -NickServ- PASSWORD Reset your nickname password |
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| 12:13.07 | ttl- | hi |
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| 12:16.04 | HtmlForm | anyone has experience in mixing arabic and english in HTML? |
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| 12:16.29 | ttl- | I'm getting a strange error while trying to install pan "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs" |
| 12:16.54 | ttl- | i'm using debian testing |
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| 12:17.17 | ttl- | happens when i try to apt-get upgrade too |
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| 12:17.41 | liable | ttl-: check bts |
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| 12:17.53 | ttl- | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. |
| 12:17.58 | nkuttler | when i ssh -X into a box and x apps timeout, can it be a firewall issue? i though the x traffic goes through the ssh tunnel. |
| 12:18.08 | ttl- | This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
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| 12:19.28 | mario__ | q |
| 12:19.39 | liable | p |
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| 12:20.59 | liable | !talk to me |
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| 12:21.13 | liable | !hi |
| 12:21.13 | dpkg | hello, liable |
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| 12:21.59 | HtmlForm | hi? |
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| 12:22.10 | Whitman | Can anyone point me to a good tutorial for setting up key based ssh authentication on debian? |
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| 12:22.50 | mfrisch | Whitman openssh.org |
| 12:22.59 | me_here | Whitman: there is a manual on "google pgp" "google ssh" :) |
| 12:23.08 | tarzeau | Whitman: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/ |
| 12:23.10 | saloxin | Whitman: ssh-keygen -t dsa; scp .ssh/identity.pub target:.ssh/authorized_keys; ssh target |
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| 12:24.27 | thohal | kann mir jemannd helfen -.suche evolution-x?! |
| 12:24.38 | abrotman | !de |
| 12:24.38 | dpkg | i guess de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 12:24.46 | mfrisch | will running strip * in my bins save space? |
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| 12:25.06 | thohal | where can i get evolution-x?? |
| 12:25.19 | pabs3 | mfrisch: no, its already run during package building |
| 12:25.23 | tarzeau | mfrisch: it'll also cause some binaries to not work anymore |
| 12:25.32 | danixer_ | how can i remove kdelibs4-dev hen they collide with ef2fsprogs and make loop? |
| 12:25.35 | tarzeau | mfrisch: just like with gzexe some bins |
| 12:25.35 | mfrisch | pabs3 thought so |
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| 12:25.55 | danixer_ | is it possible to run amarok 1.3.x on debian? |
| 12:26.02 | tarzeau | danixer_: heh, that's not sarge, right? |
| 12:26.08 | mfrisch | tarzeau is there live compression that doesnot lose data |
| 12:26.10 | danixer_ | yes |
| 12:26.16 | HtmlForm | a |
| 12:26.26 | pabs3 | danixer_: sid breaks, you should expect that |
| 12:26.38 | tarzeau | mfrisch: gzexe doesn't lose data, heh |
| 12:26.40 | HtmlForm | is this channel blocked for unregistered users? |
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| 12:26.49 | tarzeau | HtmlForm: it shouldn't be |
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| 12:27.40 | mfrisch | tarzeau is that on Debian...does not ring a bell, but I don't want it right ;-) |
| 12:27.50 | HtmlForm | ah, ok, then private messages are blocked ok!! |
| 12:27.58 | tarzeau | mfrisch: yes |
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| 12:28.09 | nkuttler | HtmlForm: they are blocked in the whole network, see /topic |
| 12:28.11 | liable | HtmlForm: yes, unless registered |
| 12:28.14 | HtmlForm | tarzeau: I was receiving a strange message from the server |
| 12:28.16 | mfrisch | THANKS |
| 12:28.17 | tarzeau | mfrisch: i've tried gzexe and strip on my /usr/bin, and /bin and the sbins, and quite a few things haven't worked anymore |
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| 12:28.35 | tarzeau | mfrisch: but it's fun, to do, i'd not stop anyone from trying |
| 12:28.52 | tarzeau | HtmlForm: #freenode (it sucks then) |
| 12:29.06 | HtmlForm | has someone experience in mixing english and arabic in webpages? I have some problems |
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| 12:29.11 | cusco | its a big topic |
| 12:29.25 | petemc | plenty of scope |
| 12:29.49 | tarzeau | HtmlForm: try #arabeyes |
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| 12:29.52 | mfrisch | tarzeau I do not need space that much.. |
| 12:30.08 | HtmlForm | tarzeau: thankyou!!! |
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| 12:30.28 | DocTomoe | Is anyone aware of a htdig tutorial for debian sarge? |
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| 12:31.12 | nkuttler | DocTomoe: tutorial? htdig is really not complicated to set up. |
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| 12:31.22 | sciboy | G'day, i was wondering if i could get alsa to output mono audio, i got some stereo music but only one of the composite output cables can be connected, so i'm only getting the left channel. |
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| 12:31.33 | DocTomoe | nkuttler ... well ... I've got it installed with apt-get ... now what ;) |
| 12:31.44 | nkuttler | DocTomoe: /usr/share/doc/htdig/ |
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| 12:33.43 | sciboy | well? =| |
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| 12:34.09 | Starry | hello, anyone there? |
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| 12:34.15 | rogue | hi |
| 12:34.19 | Starry | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 12:34.21 | Starry | how to fix that"? |
| 12:34.27 | nkuttler | sciboy: i'm not sure, does xmms not support that? |
| 12:34.35 | DocTomoe | Starry: apt-get install build-essential ? |
| 12:34.36 | petemc | libc6-dev |
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| 12:34.44 | sciboy | nkuttler: I see no setting in it to allow it. =/ |
| 12:34.47 | petemc | but even, build essential |
| 12:35.02 | sciboy | nkuttler: Just "Mono" and "Stereo" but i can't change it. =P |
| 12:35.22 | sciboy | nksen: Tells me what type of file i am playing. =) |
| 12:35.23 | rogue | can anybody tell me the name of the config-program wich runs during installation of deb 3.1 ?? |
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| 12:35.28 | malicia | HI there folks. I'm having some trouble compiling a kernel-(it's a 2.4.27 ).I have tried doing it the debian way also I tried the :make bzImage:-way. And I have changed to an early version of GCC but it's just the same.. What should I do? |
| 12:35.41 | petemc | rogue: to do what? |
| 12:35.49 | Starry | thanks buddy |
| 12:35.49 | nkuttler | rogue: base-config? |
| 12:35.57 | rogue | i've done some bad things ;) |
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| 12:36.05 | mfrisch | malicia use kpkg |
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| 12:36.29 | malicia | mfrisch: I tried it allready :-) |
| 12:36.35 | rogue | just have to correct them and wanne be sure i didn't left anything ^^ |
| 12:36.41 | sciboy | nkuttler: |
| 12:36.45 | mfrisch | malicia need to read the help files or man maybe? |
| 12:36.52 | sciboy | nkuttler: You would think such a simple feature would be available. =/ |
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| 12:37.07 | nkuttler | sciboy: i'd look into the alsa documentation |
| 12:37.33 | malicia | mfrisch: Like what kinda reading do you suggest? |
| 12:37.40 | mfrisch | malicia did it create a .deb? |
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| 12:37.45 | rogue | nkuttler: well, do you remember the name of the program? |
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| 12:37.58 | nkuttler | rogue: google alsa documentation |
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| 12:38.16 | rogue | i don't have sound-probs |
| 12:38.23 | malicia | mfrisch: Well nope it didn't create non- it showed me some error around ASM and then quit. |
| 12:38.29 | rogue | that was another lost soul in here ;) |
| 12:38.33 | nkuttler | rogue: base-config |
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| 12:38.41 | nkuttler | rogue: as i told you |
| 12:38.43 | rogue | ah yes thx |
| 12:38.46 | secher_ | whoami |
| 12:38.54 | liable_ | secher_: |
| 12:39.11 | mfrisch | malicia ASM? is that patched? |
| 12:39.20 | malicia | mfrisch: some Like this standard input}: Assembler messages: |
| 12:39.21 | malicia | {standard input}:659: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' |
| 12:39.23 | malicia | Uhm.. |
| 12:39.27 | malicia | assembly |
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| 12:40.02 | sciboy | nkuttler: I can add another software mixing device to do it. |
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| 12:40.19 | sciboy | nkuttler: Just set the virtual device to only 1 channel. |
| 12:40.24 | secher_ | hrm.. wierd. I've used the same nick ( secher, secher_ secher__ ) for years now with the same password, and now nickserv is telling me that my pw is wrong.. wierd. |
| 12:40.25 | mfrisch | Is anybody up who groks kpkg ?? malicia needs help |
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| 12:40.37 | sciboy | nkuttler: But i would be sure they'd have this feature somewhere... |
| 12:41.48 | mfrisch | malicia are you on testing/or/unstable? |
| 12:42.22 | malicia | Uhm.. stable I guess. But I use test and unstable apps on the machine. |
| 12:42.31 | thohal | can anybody help me? i am searching for evolution-x? i found no downloads?! |
| 12:42.33 | malicia | The base is stable I guess |
| 12:42.39 | mfrisch | malicia gcc4? |
| 12:43.07 | pabs3 | thohal: what is evolution-x? |
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| 12:43.14 | liable_ | thohal: what is evolution-x/ |
| 12:43.22 | thohal | linux os for xbox |
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| 12:43.31 | malicia | mfrisch: yeah some one told me to change to an older version of gcc and I did and it went nicer and further then before . |
| 12:43.51 | pabs3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-X |
| 12:43.54 | malicia | But stops at some point... |
| 12:43.59 | ttl- | liable: don't find anything in the bts |
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| 12:44.50 | liable_ | ttl-: funny, i have seen that here a few times in the last couple o days.. |
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| 12:44.57 | mfrisch | malicia ok..is your kpkg from unstable? it could maybe made from gcc4?.? |
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| 12:45.26 | malicia | mfrisch: Thing is I need a clean kernel ( one that isn't distro patched) to patch it with openmosix (so openmosix can work) and I need to get an bzImage to do network booting - But I can't even build it the kpkg way |
| 12:45.28 | malicia | Uhm.... |
| 12:45.36 | malicia | lets see... |
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| 12:46.28 | ttl- | does anybody know how to fix the apt-get "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs" ? |
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| 12:47.03 | mfrisch | malicia you need to add patchs to the kpkg command, man kpkg would help for that..I have no experiance there, but others do. |
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| 12:48.21 | nkuttler | ttl-: paste the output of apt-cache policy e2fsprogs in #flood |
| 12:48.59 | malicia | mfrisch: well I'm trying to do it without any patch for now. compleetly the "Debian Way". But na.. Anyway Thanks for the Help. I will try compiling on other PCs.. and see it goes.. |
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| 12:49.42 | ]]udOn[[ | hi |
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| 12:49.58 | malicia | BAKA - I don't have any memory left on any of those PCs :p |
| 12:50.01 | mfrisch | malicia kpkg is well worth learning. I had three or four bad compiles before I got a good .deb. |
| 12:50.28 | ttl- | nkuttler: done |
| 12:51.03 | malicia | Well : I did it some months ago and it went well - ( BUt I compiled bad and got no sound:p so I left that alone But no I need it.) |
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| 12:51.17 | nkuttler | ttl-: what version of debian are you running? |
| 12:51.42 | ttl- | nkuttler: Sarge |
| 12:51.54 | ttl- | nkuttler: Unstable |
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| 12:52.05 | nkuttler | ttl-: no, you e2fsprogs is ancient, pre-sarge |
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| 12:52.13 | nkuttler | s/you/your/ |
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| 12:52.42 | nkuttler | in sarge i have 1.37-2sarge1, you have 1.35 |
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| 12:53.05 | ]]udOn[[ | im a japanese |
| 12:53.06 | liable_ | ttl-: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=362194 |
| 12:53.18 | EdgEy | anyone know if there's an irc chan for eciadsl help |
| 12:53.23 | nkuttler | !nickometer ]]udOn[[ |
| 12:53.24 | dpkg | ']]udOn[[' is 99.860% lame, nkuttler |
| 12:53.34 | EdgEy | haha |
| 12:53.38 | nkuttler | !japanese |
| 12:53.38 | dpkg | japanese is, like, #debian-japanese Turning japanese i think i'm turning japanese i really think so! |
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| 12:53.58 | mfrisch | !nicometer mfrisch |
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| 12:54.07 | EdgEy | !nickometer EdgEy |
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| 12:54.15 | EdgEy | 0.000% very nice |
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| 12:54.26 | cusco | !nickometer |
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| 12:54.30 | cusco | !nickometer cusco |
| 12:54.32 | ]]udOn[[ | im in tokyo |
| 12:54.33 | nkuttler | !msg the bot |
| 12:54.33 | dpkg | please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood |
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| 12:54.48 | mfrisch | dpkg !nicometer mfrisch |
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| 12:54.54 | EdgEy | nick |
| 12:54.56 | EdgEy | not nic |
| 12:54.58 | frood | hey all |
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| 12:55.01 | cusco | lol |
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| 12:55.13 | cusco | I don't quite understand that one |
| 12:55.25 | frood | dcoes anyone know whether the hauppauge wintv usb card works under linux yet> |
| 12:55.25 | ttl- | nullman: I'm running testing not stable, and i installed it when sarge was still 'testing' |
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| 12:55.30 | cusco | !nickometer ]]udOn[[ |
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| 12:55.37 | cusco | lol |
| 12:56.00 | ]]udOn[[ | what is !nickometer? |
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| 12:56.42 | __naquad__ | hello erveryone |
| 12:56.44 | nkuttler | it means that your name sucks because it's unnecessary hard to type |
| 12:57.06 | abrotman | ily |
| 12:57.14 | nkuttler | ttl-: talking to me? |
| 12:57.27 | ]]udOn[[ | it doesnt mater you typ only udon |
| 12:57.52 | __naquad__ | people, tell me please some apt repositories with the lastest kernel |
| 12:58.01 | ttl- | nkuttler: yes, i installed sarge when it was still in testing |
| 12:58.23 | nkuttler | ttl-: so you're not running sarge, you're running some ancient testing |
| 12:58.29 | nkuttler | ttl-: upgrade to sarge, then to sid |
| 12:58.46 | ttl- | liable: would it be a good idea to set the APT::Force-LoopBreak option ? |
| 12:59.05 | nkuttler | ttl-: bugs.debian.org/e2fsprogs as well |
| 12:59.10 | liable | ttl-: follow that thread and see how you go.. |
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| 13:02.49 | ttl- | nkuttler: ok thanks |
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| 13:04.35 | darkness1 | Hi, i'm looking for aptitude install harden.doc but get "unknown cmd". Am i missing something? |
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| 13:06.05 | znx | darkness1: are you root? |
| 13:06.13 | darkness1 | Yes. |
| 13:06.26 | lakcaj | are you typing harden-doc? |
| 13:06.30 | lakcaj | or harden.doc |
| 13:06.42 | lakcaj | it is harden-doc |
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| 13:07.13 | lakcaj | it's not a word file, it's documentation. |
| 13:07.13 | darkness1 | I'm typing aptitude install harden-doc. |
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| 13:07.28 | znx | darkness1: try: apt-get install harden-doc |
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| 13:08.59 | darkness1 | Okay, It works. Gueran must have been on the drink last night :-P |
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| 13:09.28 | lakcaj | darkness1, if you want to use aptitude, but don't have it, apt-get install it. |
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| 13:09.47 | liable | its standard in base.. |
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| 13:09.59 | darkness1 | lakcaj: What advantages does it have? |
| 13:10.17 | liable | logging for a start.. |
| 13:10.23 | liable | !aptitude |
| 13:10.23 | dpkg | well, aptitude is a powerful and flexible package manager which is not afraid to experiment with new ideas. http://aptitude.sourceforge.net, or 'apt-get install aptitude', or http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg11344.html. But be careful boys'n'grilfs: Bug# 299009 |
| 13:10.23 | d0s4gw | i'm having a problem where i cannot connect to certain webpages. things in particular like credit card websites, yahoo mail, and editting wiki's. anyone have any idea what the problem could be? |
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| 13:10.54 | scanwinder | can someone give me a repository which has GTK+-2.4 headers and libraries? |
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| 13:11.42 | ttl- | nkuttler: going to upgrade to sarge now |
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| 13:11.54 | ttl- | bye |
| 13:12.00 | liable | d0s4gw: have you upgraded lately? |
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| 13:12.12 | abrotman | scanwinder: which version of debian are you using ? |
| 13:12.20 | granden | Hi |
| 13:12.22 | d0s4gw | liable: yes, just last night. this has been ongoing since my install |
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| 13:12.42 | granden | I got a strange problem when Im writing make menuconf I get this http://granden.homelinux.com/~granden/test |
| 13:12.48 | d0s4gw | liable: the strangest part is that i have a windows machine on the same network that can connect to those pages |
| 13:12.50 | granden | any ideas? |
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| 13:13.16 | scanwinder | abrotman: im using damn small linux..........not getting much response on #damnsmalllinux ...........but its debian-based rite? |
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| 13:13.22 | mfrisch | What is a good small gigabit switch? |
| 13:13.40 | abrotman | scanwinder: you still have to ask there .. libgtk2.6 is in sarge .. i have no idea which gtk DSL uses |
| 13:13.42 | liable | d0s4gw: hmm there was a problem with ssl a while back, but i think its fixed.. |
| 13:14.01 | abrotman | mfrisch: dlink,netgear,linksys .. look at thier websites |
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| 13:14.12 | scanwinder | abrotman: so i cant just get a repository with it in it and install it from there? |
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| 13:14.22 | d0s4gw | liable: is there any sort of system wide configuration that could cause this? |
| 13:14.24 | abrotman | scanwinder: dunno .. i've never used DSL .. |
| 13:14.33 | abrotman | scanwinder: why not just isntall debian ? |
| 13:14.36 | d0s4gw | liable: because it happens in all of my browsers |
| 13:14.43 | granden | anyone who can help me Why I cant run make menuconfig |
| 13:14.45 | mfrisch | abrotman they are linux compatitable..one is not more supported than others? |
| 13:14.56 | lakcaj | d0s4gw, could it be a DNS issue? |
| 13:15.17 | abrotman | mfrisch: it's a switch |
| 13:15.22 | abrotman | granden: using sid ? |
| 13:15.41 | asuffield | those would be "cheap switches", not "good switches" |
| 13:15.41 | d0s4gw | lakcaj: is there there a way to investigate that? |
| 13:15.49 | mfrisch | abrotman ok THANKS, |
| 13:15.51 | abrotman | asuffield: he also said small |
| 13:16.06 | asuffield | yes, that's more of a problem |
| 13:16.11 | granden | Yes testing |
| 13:16.12 | abrotman | asuffield: i assumed he meant 4/8 port .. i don't htink cisco makes a small gigabit swtich |
| 13:16.13 | lakcaj | d0s4gw, you could look in /etc/resolv.conf and make sure you have the same nameservers as when in Windows. |
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| 13:16.19 | liable | granden: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=make+menuconfig+gcc4&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
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| 13:16.23 | asuffield | abrotman: HP might... |
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| 13:16.28 | abrotman | asuffield: and dlink/netgear do make 'decent' gigabit switches |
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| 13:16.31 | EdgEy | http://channels.debian.net/paste/727 anyone know why this would happen with eciadsl? i can't ping, after a few seconds it seems to just disconnect |
| 13:16.49 | granden | liable: I cant google with links its so fucking hard to get a good picture then |
| 13:16.52 | d0s4gw | so the nameserver = the ip of my switch? |
| 13:16.54 | granden | cant you try to help me? |
| 13:16.59 | abrotman | asuffield: somehow i would guess someone looking for small finds 'good' a secondary requirement :) |
| 13:17.10 | d0s4gw | lakcaj: so the nameserver = the ip of my switch? |
| 13:17.16 | mfrisch | asuffield HP.. |
| 13:17.22 | liable | granden: trying to compile < 2.6.12 kernel with gcc4? |
| 13:17.27 | abrotman | asuffield: HP is also not cheap |
| 13:17.31 | abrotman | same as cisco |
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| 13:17.43 | abrotman | mfrisch: how many ports? |
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| 13:17.48 | granden | I downloaded kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 13:17.49 | asuffield | cheaper than cisco, better than linksys |
| 13:17.51 | abrotman | mfrisch: and is there a budget? |
| 13:17.55 | granden | and then tried to make menuconfig |
| 13:17.59 | granden | and yes I got gcc4 |
| 13:18.06 | abrotman | asuffield: better than linksys isn't saying much :) |
| 13:18.11 | lakcaj | d0s4gw, nope. A name server is a separate server, usually provided by your isp, that takes a url and translates it into an ip addy. That way, when you type www.google.com, the DNS determines what ip addy that actually is. |
| 13:18.15 | wishie | i just installed debian on my new SATA drive, but the installation installed grub into the MBR of my first IDE drive.. how can i install grub on the SATA drives MBR ? |
| 13:18.23 | abrotman | granden: last i knew .. gcc4 couldn't compile a kernel |
| 13:18.24 | asuffield | indeed, but an HP switch has a good chance of delivering full gigabit throughput |
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| 13:18.41 | liable | it can, just not older ones.. |
| 13:18.43 | abrotman | asuffield: yes ... and he probably has cat5 not cat5e/6 :) |
| 13:18.45 | asuffield | dlink/linksys/netgear have an irritating habit of topping out at around 2/3 what they should be |
| 13:18.52 | d0s4gw | lakcaj: i dont suppose you know where to get the nameserver info on a windows machine... |
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| 13:18.55 | granden | wtf but how shall I do then I did get gcc4 with the uptading of stable to testing |
| 13:19.00 | lakcaj | d0s4gw, sorry, no. |
| 13:19.01 | granden | and I need to compile a kernel |
| 13:19.03 | granden | what shall I do+ |
| 13:19.04 | granden | ? |
| 13:19.07 | EdgEy | d0s4gw try ipconfig /all |
| 13:19.08 | abrotman | granden: why are you compiling a kernel ? |
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| 13:19.11 | mfrisch | abrotman I saw a netgear 8 port for 60$, I was going to look around today, but wanted to get some input first. |
| 13:19.17 | wishie | granden: i compile kernels with gcc4 |
| 13:19.18 | EdgEy | (on windows) |
| 13:19.21 | granden | cause I have to get the nvidia driver to work |
| 13:19.24 | wishie | ive done it on 2 machines today. |
| 13:19.33 | liable | wishie: 2.6.8? |
| 13:19.35 | granden | and when trying to compile them with gcc4 it doesnt work |
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| 13:19.40 | abrotman | mfrisch: as asuffield said .. they work 'ok' .. but you rarely get a full 1Gb out of the switch .. but certainly better than 100Mb |
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| 13:19.46 | wishie | liable: 2.6.12 and 2.6.13.1 |
| 13:19.47 | d0s4gw | EdgEy: nameserver = default gatway? |
| 13:19.52 | abrotman | !tell granden about nvidia one-liner |
| 13:19.54 | liable | wishie: right.. |
| 13:19.57 | lakcaj | d0s4gw, no |
| 13:20.00 | d0s4gw | EdgEy: or dns server |
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| 13:20.05 | EdgEy | hold on |
| 13:20.13 | abrotman | mfrisch: make sense ? |
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| 13:20.19 | EdgEy | DNS Servers |
| 13:20.24 | abrotman | mfrisch: do you even have cat 5e/6 cabling ? |
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| 13:20.27 | granden | abrotman: I want to use the ones from the official page |
| 13:20.31 | wishie | how do i find out the grub device name for my /dev/sda1 ? |
| 13:20.37 | EdgEy | default gateway is your ip... or at least it is for me |
| 13:20.38 | liable | d0s4gw: if you can visit other web sites, but not certain ones, i doubt its a dns issue.. |
| 13:20.40 | d0s4gw | EdgEy: crap, they are the same... |
| 13:20.44 | EdgEy | weird |
| 13:20.44 | granden | wishie: can I pm you? |
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| 13:20.59 | abrotman | granden: then i'm not sure .. i'm not sure you even have to compile a kernel to use them .. but this is why i don't buy nvidia garbage |
| 13:21.01 | mfrisch | abrotman I have nothing now, but thought I should goto a decent switch..yes 5e, but I do need new nics as well. |
| 13:21.07 | wishie | granden: if you want to. |
| 13:21.12 | d0s4gw | liable: its really frustrating because I have no idea what the problem is |
| 13:21.18 | granden | need help with compilign kernel |
| 13:21.26 | granden | thats why I have to |
| 13:21.35 | liable | granden: get the source for 2.6.12 and try.. |
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| 13:21.37 | abrotman | mfrisch: cat5e is the minimum .. and with that .. you may not get a full Gb either .. are you actually going to use the full capacity of Gb switch ? |
| 13:21.50 | granden | liable: could you give me the source |
| 13:21.55 | granden | from the net a link or so |
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| 13:21.56 | liable | d0s4gw: this is sarge? |
| 13:22.01 | granden | cant surf with links |
| 13:22.04 | d0s4gw | liable: yep |
| 13:22.05 | granden | its uuh |
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| 13:22.21 | liable | granden: google linux-souce-2.6.12 |
| 13:22.29 | abrotman | it should be in etch by now |
| 13:22.35 | granden | yeah but in links that isnt nice to do |
| 13:22.43 | asuffield | gigabit cards should be intel e1k chips of some description. not broadcom. absolutely not realtek. |
| 13:22.43 | granden | hate link |
| 13:22.50 | abrotman | granden: apt-get update;apt-cache search linux-source-2.6 |
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| 13:23.02 | d0s4gw | Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 15:28:25 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:23.08 | Nurbs_ | mfrisch: you'll probably want to look out for a switch that does jumbo frames, too, at least. |
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| 13:23.29 | abrotman | mine does gargantuan frames! |
| 13:23.52 | liable | granden: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-6_all.deb |
| 13:23.54 | mfrisch | abrotman well I would like to try and in time will. I am looking to add a couple of boxes to my net. |
| 13:23.59 | mfrisch | Nurbs_ ok |
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| 13:24.07 | Nurbs_ | mfrisch: and _really_ forget about realtek, yeah. |
| 13:24.09 | stumbles | hello |
| 13:24.28 | abrotman | mfrisch: a Gb is a lot of data .. constantly flowing |
| 13:24.41 | liable | d0s4gw: so its only encrypted pages you cant view? and whats the error/ |
| 13:24.51 | abrotman | mfrisch: and i mean *a lot* |
| 13:24.52 | tarzeau | has someone got 2.6.13 debian kernel packages with gdt/scsi in and yukos/e1000 as modules? |
| 13:25.01 | d0s4gw | liable: it just hangs and hangs |
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| 13:25.09 | d0s4gw | liable: usually never even times out |
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| 13:25.20 | abrotman | isn't e1000 always a module ? |
| 13:25.29 | liable | d0s4gw: but its encrypted pages that do it? |
| 13:25.51 | mfrisch | abrotman but for twenty dollars isn't it worth it not to upgrade in the future or is support not worth it? |
| 13:25.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: no idea, but it's giving me problems , that's why i want the yukos one, but my 2.6.13 hangs at boot with the last line "PCI: Bridge: somenubmers" |
| 13:25.54 | d0s4gw | liable: it seems so, except it also happens when i try to edit my wiki |
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| 13:26.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/kernel-2.6/config-2.6.13 |
| 13:26.22 | wishie | can someone help me get grub into the MBR of my /dev/sda1, as the debian install cd installed it in /dev/hda1's MBR |
| 13:26.23 | abrotman | mfrisch: yes .. but i'm not sure i'd be springing for an HP/Cisco switch until you're maxing out whatever little switch you buy |
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| 13:27.06 | mfrisch | abrotman your opinion is greatly apprecieated |
| 13:27.07 | asuffield | doesn't look like there are procurve gigabit switches in anything less than a rack profile anyway |
| 13:27.28 | asuffield | all their 8" models are 100Mbit |
| 13:27.29 | abrotman | tarzeau: same config work with .12 ? |
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| 13:27.48 | abrotman | asuffield: well . if he has a rack ..why not :) |
| 13:27.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: 2.4.31 works fine |
| 13:27.57 | mfrisch | asuffield THANKS |
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| 13:28.08 | asuffield | you can just screw those things to the wall directly, racks aren't actually required |
| 13:28.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: but that's 2.4 .. you're triyng to compile 2.6 :) |
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| 13:28.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: well the same 2.6.13 works on other machines, just not on that dual xeon 3,2ghz w/ 4tb disks |
| 13:28.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: ah .. ok .. |
| 13:28.27 | asuffield | the mounting brackets invert for surface mount |
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| 13:29.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're compiling your own kernel but left all that garbage in there :) |
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| 13:29.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: i only compiled it myself to have yukos driver and gdth/scsi |
| 13:29.53 | wishie | argh! grub is a pain in the arse to install |
| 13:29.58 | tarzeau | wishie: no it's not |
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| 13:30.17 | wishie | tarzeau: it is when the installation cd installed it on hda1, instead of sda1 |
| 13:30.17 | abrotman | grub-install /dev/bootdrive ? |
| 13:30.29 | tarzeau | wishie: don't use the install cd to fix things |
| 13:30.39 | wishie | tarzeau: im not |
| 13:30.48 | tarzeau | wishie: debian install cd's are only good for installing it, nothing else |
| 13:30.52 | wishie | abrotman: that is all i need to do ? what about the stage1/2 stuff ? |
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| 13:31.08 | wishie | tarzeau: i installed with it, and grub got installed into hda1, not sda1 |
| 13:31.11 | abrotman | wishie: did you come from gentoo ? |
| 13:31.15 | wishie | tarzeau: im not using the cd to fix anything |
| 13:31.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: the machine boots with a normal debian kernel ? |
| 13:31.50 | wishie | abrotman: no. i mean the bootloader stages, ie, files in /boot/grub/ |
| 13:32.06 | tarzeau | abrotman: nope, debian kernels don't have gdth compiled in |
| 13:32.22 | abrotman | wtf is gdth ? |
| 13:32.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: icp vortex raid controller |
| 13:32.36 | abrotman | oh .. lovely |
| 13:32.38 | tarzeau | linux driver name |
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| 13:33.04 | tarzeau | i wouldn't be able to use 25 computers with stock debian kernels... |
| 13:33.08 | liable | d0s4gw: not using a proxy? |
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| 13:34.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: you tried a 2.6.12 ? |
| 13:34.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, should i? |
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| 13:35.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: i can't remember the stupid kernel numbering scheme now ... but it's worth a shot |
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| 13:36.09 | Adri2000 | hi |
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| 13:36.32 | stumbles | i'm having issues with poor dvd playback - the display is slightly choppy on an athlon 2800. The CPU load is under 30% and the problem is occuring in both totem and VLC. Is DMA being off the problem? |
| 13:37.08 | abrotman | ok .. that's it .. US Cartoons have hit an all time low .. i'm watching one where a coconut is the hero .. and he has two banana friends .. named Slip and Slide |
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| 13:37.10 | Adri2000 | how can i run some shell commands at boot with debian sarge ? (it's for a game server), there is no windowsmanager installed |
| 13:37.18 | mwilson | Why is DMA off? |
| 13:37.27 | abrotman | Adri2000: /etc/init.d/README |
| 13:37.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i could also try 2.6.13.1 .. |
| 13:37.46 | elther | hello everybody.I know it's OT but I need competent people...i've bought in Germany an adsl router siemens se515 and here in italy it can't get the carrier...is there any way to fix it? |
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| 13:37.57 | tarzeau | Adri2000: you could also use cron with @restart |
| 13:38.13 | tarzeau | elther: ask your isp |
| 13:38.14 | abrotman | tarzeau: i don't see anything blatantly wrong with yoru config .. but i don't know how your patch/driver works .. |
| 13:38.19 | Adri2000 | ok abrotman |
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| 13:38.27 | jcuk | erm |
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| 13:38.42 | stumbles | mwilson: not sure but i don't seem to be able to turn it on - HDIO_SET_DMA failed: operation not permitted |
| 13:38.50 | jcuk | dunno if someone can help me. i had setup my systme to run with my geforce 2 card then tryed to play a demo of quake 3.. |
| 13:38.59 | jcuk | in which it threw up multiple errors |
| 13:39.00 | tarzeau | !tryed |
| 13:39.00 | dpkg | it has been said that tryed is not English. I think you meant to say 'tried'. "tryed" _is_ English, just middle / old English. |
| 13:39.18 | elther | tarzeau: I'll do...I hope someone competent will answer me! |
| 13:39.25 | jcuk | so i tried on KDE, and it changed my resolution |
| 13:39.27 | mwilson | stumbles: So you built your own kernel, huh? |
| 13:39.35 | abrotman | mwilson: isn't it a bit early for you ? |
| 13:39.36 | jcuk | then i restarted system as it 'crashed' |
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| 13:39.46 | jcuk | xserver wouldent start |
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| 13:39.54 | stumbles | mwilson: upgraded to 2,6,12 |
| 13:39.54 | jcuk | somehow, im now running xorg |
| 13:39.59 | dannyp | stumbles: you should check your kernel configuration options and turn on the specific driver for your IDE controller |
| 13:40.07 | jcuk | but xfree86 is installed |
| 13:40.09 | mwilson | stumbles: That's not what I asked you. |
| 13:40.20 | jcuk | my nvidia card is uninstalled now also |
| 13:40.21 | stumbles | mwilson: stock 2.6,12 |
| 13:40.32 | mwilson | stumbles: Again, that's not what I asked you. |
| 13:40.43 | jcuk | how do i get rid of xorg xserver and get back to Xfree86? |
| 13:41.04 | d0s4gw | liable: no proxy |
| 13:41.07 | jcuk | can i just get rid of the xorg conf and use xf86? |
| 13:41.14 | stumbles | mwilson: no i did not build my own kernel, i'm using the debian stock kernel 2.6.12 |
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| 13:41.42 | Dexter | hi |
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| 13:41.44 | d0s4gw | liable: it was having this problem the day i installed debian |
| 13:41.45 | Dexter | everyone |
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| 13:42.14 | liable | d0s4gw: hmm. |
| 13:42.20 | Lilldude | laible |
| 13:42.21 | TobiX | Hi! |
| 13:42.39 | liable | Lilldude: |
| 13:42.40 | Lilldude | can you help me set up linux on old lap top? |
| 13:42.45 | hiux | does debian surport usf partitions? |
| 13:42.49 | liable | dunno.. |
| 13:42.50 | d0s4gw | liable: yea, i know. its exceptionally confusing,huh |
| 13:42.53 | Dexter | anybody who's good at vi and emacs ? |
| 13:43.00 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 13:43.01 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 13:43.06 | Lilldude | and what pci wireless works better than mine |
| 13:43.28 | hiux | i use mount -t ufs /dev/hda1 /mnt, but it did not work |
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| 13:44.06 | Dexter | I wanna know which editor's better for programming c/c++ |
| 13:44.07 | hiux | how to mount freebsd partitions in debian? |
| 13:44.31 | hiux | should i recompile the kernel? |
| 13:44.33 | Lilldude | linux wire card who uses one? |
| 13:44.39 | tarzeau | hiux: what command did you try? |
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| 13:44.55 | hiux | mount -t ufs /dev/hda1 /mnt |
| 13:44.56 | tarzeau | hiux: with ufs you should say what type of ufs |
| 13:45.07 | stumbles | mwilson, dannyp: thanks, seems pretty clear that i'll need to rebuild or go back to the previous kernel i was using |
| 13:45.22 | tarzeau | hiux: like ufstype=44bsd |
| 13:45.22 | liable | Lilldude: can you even replace the card in the laptop? or you gonna use pcmcia/ |
| 13:45.40 | tarzeau | hiux: i've tried openstep and nextstep-cd successfully with ufs |
| 13:45.41 | Lilldude | pcmia in lap top d link 650 |
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| 13:46.04 | hiux | tarzeau, i used mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/hda1 /mnt too,but does not work |
| 13:46.10 | TobiX | I have a very strange problem here: Yesterday I started formatting (with superformat) a bunch of old floppys and wondered why all aparently had some errors. I tried the same on another PC which formatted them just fine. So I thought, "must be the drive then" - I swapped the drive today, but the error persisted. Out of curiosity I tried fdformat, which worked flawlessly, I also tried to format the same disk with a dual-booted WinXP and with VGACopy... So: How d |
| 13:46.15 | tarzeau | hiux: which error msg did you get? |
| 13:46.23 | tarzeau | hiux: what shows cfdisk fdisk on /dev/hda1 ? |
| 13:46.27 | Lilldude | liable need one that is better for pci tower |
| 13:46.29 | hiux | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, |
| 13:46.31 | hiux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.31 | hiux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:46.36 | Lilldude | and i got 20 gig slave driver too |
| 13:46.38 | Dexter | plz somebody give me ur personal opinion about choosing best editor for proramming in linux |
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| 13:46.49 | tarzeau | hiux: try asking in #gnu-kbsd they might have better/patched tools for this, maybe |
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| 13:47.15 | hiux | tarzeau, thanks |
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| 13:47.54 | liable | Lilldude: whats wrong with the one you got? |
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| 13:48.13 | Lilldude | has habbit of loosing conection |
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| 13:48.40 | Lilldude | liable can you transfer os to slave in linux? |
| 13:48.50 | Lilldude | liable its noisy master |
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| 13:49.00 | TobiX | Dexter: Personally I'm with the VIM-fanatists ;) But as I know some people who program with Emacs, that would probably also work |
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| 13:49.19 | mattt | where can i find x86_64 iso's for stable? |
| 13:49.53 | debianuser | how can i tell the cause of a server reboot ? are there any cluest that the server was down from a power problem or other problem ? |
| 13:49.55 | liable | Lilldude: yeah its possible.. |
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| 13:50.12 | streuner | mattt: what CPU do you have? |
| 13:50.17 | mattt | streuner: opterons |
| 13:50.21 | Lilldude | cool liable when drive comes i maybe do that |
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| 13:50.23 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 13:50.23 | dpkg | amd64 is probably See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 13:50.40 | Lilldude | laible nevor got rid o o clock yet |
| 13:50.48 | mattt | ahh, not official yet ... thanks guys |
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| 13:50.55 | Lilldude | liable some day il swamp drives |
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| 13:51.35 | jcuk | when doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i get the following error.. |
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| 13:51.47 | nazgul | * I am using sarge. moved to xserver-xorg but now gdm does not come up any more. All I see is the grey X background and the mouse cursor in cross shape. Any idea what went wrong when upgrading? |
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| 13:51.50 | jcuk | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree86 is broken or not fully installed |
| 13:52.11 | Lilldude | liable got any ideas? |
| 13:52.19 | jcuk | im currently running xf86 now after renaming the xorg.conf to stop it booting xsession |
| 13:52.34 | liable | Lilldude: for what? |
| 13:52.48 | Lilldude | how to make dlink work stable |
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| 13:53.01 | malicia | CooolssS XDS I manage o get my kernel compiled! I made a bzImage can you believe it.. thanks to ASM patch :D |
| 13:53.06 | Lilldude | maybe run with no ndiswrapper driver |
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| 13:53.27 | liable | Lilldude: the wireless card? not really. it doesnt use ndiswrapper.. |
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| 13:54.16 | Lilldude | ok then what does it use than not ndisswrapper |
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| 13:54.55 | liable | Lilldude: its a linux driver, ndiswrapper uses windows drivers. |
| 13:55.25 | Lilldude | ok liable |
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| 14:00.41 | Lilldude | libale ok i do not touch drivers only read on google it uses ndis rapper |
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| 14:01.49 | liable | Lilldude: no, you have a linux driver for it. maybe you could try ndiswrapper and it may work better |
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| 14:02.31 | Lilldude | maybe |
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| 14:03.13 | comp10 | hello |
| 14:03.29 | Lilldude | liable pesky |
| 14:03.50 | Lilldude | liable does wpa work on debian? |
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| 14:04.10 | liable | Lilldude: yes |
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| 14:04.30 | tarzeau | hiux: what says cat /proc/filesystems ? can you modprobe ufs ? |
| 14:04.39 | Lilldude | ok il maybe use that its wep 128 key now whats better |
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| 14:05.40 | liable | Lilldude: wpa is more secure. |
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| 14:06.27 | Lilldude | ok |
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| 14:06.55 | Logtime | someone know a client ftp gui with SSL??? |
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| 14:08.40 | steven_Laptop | hello all does anyone no how to set up running levels in debian? I wanted to boot options 1=default the 2nd being running level 4 = same as default expt no networks, cups and ext... |
| 14:08.50 | Lilldude | bye liable thanks for the help |
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| 14:09.01 | granden | I upgraded to testing shouldnt I be able to isntall xorg then? |
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| 14:09.16 | tarzeau | granden: no |
| 14:09.31 | granden | fuck |
| 14:09.33 | liable | Lilldude: bye |
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| 14:09.45 | drac | tarzeau: why? |
| 14:09.50 | Lilldude | liable armen coming bye to fix router |
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| 14:10.01 | granden | tarzeau: is it possible anyway to get xorg isntalled any toher way? |
| 14:10.01 | drac | !info xserver-xorg testing |
| 14:10.02 | tarzeau | i've seen people who were able to change their sources.list to sid and experimental, but not able to do other things |
| 14:10.07 | liable | Lilldude: you dont have it working yet?? |
| 14:10.12 | tarzeau | granden: i have no idea. i've never had the need for xorg |
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| 14:10.21 | tarzeau | drac: because some people are able to do x, but not y? |
| 14:10.22 | hcy | is there a way to make my user 'invisible' so that others won't know I'm online if they run 'users'? (I have root access) |
| 14:10.23 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 (etch), Packaged size: 5563 kB, Installed size: 15696 kB |
| 14:10.33 | Lilldude | liable it crashed |
| 14:10.39 | tarzeau | drac: i've never seen anyone use testing besides for fixing sid |
| 14:10.47 | granden | xserver-xorg where could I get that? |
| 14:11.07 | liable | Lilldude: bugger, piece of shit.. |
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| 14:11.13 | thingfish | granden: it should be available, you just might have to manually select it. |
| 14:11.23 | drac | granden: If you run testing (etch), just "apt-get install x-window-system xserver-xorg" |
| 14:11.37 | granden | ok |
| 14:11.41 | thingfish | x-window-system-core isn't it? |
| 14:11.54 | granden | if I search for xserver-xorg |
| 14:11.57 | granden | I cant fint it |
| 14:12.00 | granden | with apt-get search |
| 14:12.04 | Lilldude | right liable |
| 14:13.01 | drac | granden: Then fix your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 14:13.02 | granden | drac know any good sources? |
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| 14:13.02 | drac | granden: Use debian sources. |
| 14:13.10 | Lilldude | liable linksys is hit |
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| 14:13.52 | liable | granden: you arent running etch if you dont have xorg available.. |
| 14:14.26 | granden | liable: I changed everyhting in my sources.list to tesitng and did apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 14:14.57 | hile | well, you didn't obviously do apt-get update |
| 14:15.03 | granden | yes I did |
| 14:15.11 | granden | apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 14:16.31 | granden | now its there |
| 14:16.33 | granden | :P |
| 14:16.36 | hcy | is there a way to make my user 'invisible' so that others won't know I'm online if they run 'users'? (I have root access) |
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| 14:17.43 | Quibus | hi all, any idea how I can persuade GNOME to use Metacity in stead of Sawfish as a window manager? |
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| 14:18.02 | Quibus | my x-window-manager alternative is set to metacity already, but it keeps using Sawfish |
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| 14:25.20 | rhalff | hi I get this error when upgrading: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/readline-common_5.0-11_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 14:25.21 | rhalff | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.34 | rhalff | how can I fix this, the error seems trivial |
| 14:25.46 | granden | If I get (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX when typing startx what is wrong? |
| 14:26.07 | Ydef | can anyone explain why after returning to a normal terminal session after su'ing that the backspace/delete is once again fuxxored and how to correct for this? |
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| 14:27.13 | Quibus | Ydef: does 'reset' fix it? |
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| 14:27.43 | Ydef | quibus: nope |
| 14:27.43 | Quibus | rhalff: are you running sid? Or are you using non-standard repositories? |
| 14:28.56 | xwolf | Quibus: its most likely in your gnome-session |
| 14:29.15 | xwolf | try removing it from there, there is some gui for that i think |
| 14:29.24 | Quibus | xwolf: I couldn't find it... |
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| 14:29.52 | rhalff | Quibus, unstable, that is sid right ? and I have used non-standard repositories ever, they are not in my sources.list anymore though |
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| 14:30.31 | Quibus | rhalff: well, you have 2 packages that have files in common |
| 14:30.43 | jcuk | can someone give me the link to the info site on installing nvidia drivers for debian? |
| 14:30.51 | Quibus | hi goedson |
| 14:31.05 | Quibus | xwolf: where exactly should I remove it? .gnome2/session? |
| 14:31.13 | goedson | Hi Quibus. |
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| 14:32.14 | rhalff | Quibus, can I force libreadline to be uninstalled ? |
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| 14:32.18 | jcuk | !dpkg nvidia |
| 14:32.18 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia was DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
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| 14:32.57 | Quibus | rhalff: it could be a bug in sid |
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| 14:33.17 | goedson | !dpkg nvidia-howto |
| 14:33.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia-howto is http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Etch. Warning : follow the instructions with some care. in particular, if you don't know better, set NVDIST=stable instead of testing or unstable |
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| 14:33.30 | jcuk | goedson, /msg dpkg |
| 14:33.32 | xwolf | Quibus: i believe the program is called gnome-session-properties |
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| 14:34.01 | goedson | jcuk: I sent it here so you could see the answer. |
| 14:34.18 | xwolf | Quibus: there is your current session, and sawfish is probably there with a auto-respawn entry |
| 14:34.30 | Quibus | xwolf: it is in the current session indeed |
| 14:34.45 | xwolf | quittt: so remove it and start metacity |
| 14:34.50 | Quibus | xwolf: with 'restart' |
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| 14:34.58 | Quibus | xwolf: OK, I'll try that |
| 14:35.01 | xwolf | but beware, as you remove it your current windowmanager will die |
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| 14:35.07 | quittt | xwolf, what the fuck |
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| 14:35.27 | xwolf | quittt: sorry, my nick completion fucked up :) |
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| 14:35.55 | Quibus | xwolf: I let it die and started metacity, which already has 'Restart' enabled. But when I log out, I get sawfish again (at least, that happened last time) |
| 14:35.59 | quittt | hehe |
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| 14:36.18 | Skaag | A friend's box was 0wned, i want to take it back... i'm logged in, I want to install a fresh debian in a chroot, then somehow swap between the two, any quick way or a ready made script for this? |
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| 14:36.42 | p30n_ | easy question, how do i set a static ip and dns in shell ? |
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| 14:36.57 | Skaag | p30n_: echo nameserver 1.2.3.4 > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:36.58 | Quibus | p30n_: edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:37.08 | xwolf | Quibus: then something else could be starting it |
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| 14:37.30 | xwolf | Quibus: some other .x* blarf |
| 14:37.33 | almsway | Does anyone know what could cause boot to hang on agpgart? |
| 14:37.33 | liable | p30n_: man ifconfig |
| 14:37.37 | p30n_ | is it hard to configure in shell a box to be a dhcp server ? |
| 14:37.47 | Skaag | p30n_: very easy |
| 14:37.54 | p30n_ | quick guide ? |
| 14:38.01 | Skaag | included with the package |
| 14:38.02 | Quibus | xwolf: I don't have some .xsession or so |
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| 14:38.29 | Skaag | p30n_: the sample configuration file that is included in the package contains the instructions you need to quickly have one up |
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| 14:38.37 | Skaag | brb |
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| 14:38.51 | xwolf | Quibus: try creating a fresh session? |
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| 14:38.58 | almsway | I'm trying to get debian up on my laptop, but I keep running into hardware snags |
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| 14:39.56 | secher_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.12 | Quibus | xwolf: sounds not nice :) |
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| 14:40.50 | hablandocontigo | My guess is this is the nfs port for Mac 548afpovertcp but my distro 2049 port is open for NFS. I've had problems connecting this Tiger to the nfs share. Can someone help troubleshoot my problem? |
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| 14:41.39 | xwolf | Quibus: what gnome version are you running |
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| 14:41.48 | Quibus | xwolf: in my .gnome2/session file I still see 3,Program=sawfish |
| 14:41.58 | Quibus | xwolf: the GNOME from etch, 2.10 |
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| 14:42.21 | xwolf | Quibus: then logout, kill all processes of the user, especially gconf stuff and edit the file by hand |
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| 14:42.40 | Quibus | xwolf: I suppose I can replace it with metacity or x-window-manager |
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| 14:43.12 | xwolf | Quibus: probably |
| 14:43.20 | almsway | Does anyone know how to correct bad communication between kernel level arp gart and graphics hardware? |
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| 14:44.01 | Quibus | xwolf: but, I'm a bit unceratin about the other entries that mention sawfish: 3,DiscardCommand=rm -f /home/me/.sawfish/xessions/somebignumber and 3,CloneCommand=sawfish and 3,RestartCommand=sawfish --sm-client-id somenumber etc |
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| 14:44.15 | xwolf | Quibus: but who knows with gnome nowadays :) i did the kill sawfish, start metacity thing a couple of times without problems |
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| 14:44.39 | xwolf | Quibus: uh, maybe kill the thing altogether |
| 14:44.44 | secher_ | I'm sorry, my cell started ringing as soon as I hit enter, and any response has scrolled out of buffer, reposting: Hrm.. I'm trying to run an autogen.sh, and it's returning it cannot find aclocal. I found /usr/share/aclocal/, but there is not a file "aclocal" per se. Is there somethign wrong with my configuration, or am I doing something wrong? |
| 14:44.47 | Quibus | xwolf: unintall it? :) |
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| 14:44.59 | Quibus | xwolf: maybe I should do 'save session' in the logout screen |
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| 14:45.08 | xwolf | Quibus: ummmm, that _might_ help ;) |
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| 14:45.26 | Quibus | xwolf: I'll try that :) |
| 14:45.30 | Quibus | xwolf: bbl |
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| 14:45.43 | Quibus | brb even |
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| 14:51.19 | Quibus | xwolf: OK, that helps |
| 14:51.25 | xwolf | Quibus: nice |
| 14:51.33 | Quibus | xwolf: but I do get some error window now whenI log in saying that Panel already is running |
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| 14:52.02 | xwolf | Quibus: huh? |
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| 14:52.07 | Quibus | xwolf: yeah, weird |
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| 14:52.14 | xwolf | Quibus: your session is somehow fubared :) |
| 14:52.21 | Quibus | xwolf: I'll try to edit that session manually :) |
| 14:52.29 | xwolf | Quibus: make a new one, it only affects the started programs anyway |
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| 14:52.37 | xwolf | Quibus: not the other settings |
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| 14:52.52 | Quibus | xwolf: I'll just edit it manually and back it up first |
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| 14:53.03 | xwolf | ok, good luck then |
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| 14:53.20 | Quibus | thanks :) |
| 14:53.23 | Quibus | brb |
| 14:53.23 | xwolf | Quibus: although i guess when the sessino file is somehow invalid it will make a new session anyway |
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| 14:53.39 | p30n_ | anyone familiar with the "ipcop" distro in here ? |
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| 14:53.54 | Quibus | xwolf: it's not completley invalid, I except for that error window, I get everything as it should |
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| 14:54.16 | asg | p30n_: /msg dpkg ipcop |
| 14:54.32 | fbi | is there a way to make the -R sticky when you chmod a directory? if i mv/cp any files into the directory afterwards, they don't have the permissions that i assigned |
| 14:54.32 | xwolf | Quibus: no i mean, if you break the session file by manually editing it |
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| 14:54.44 | Quibus | xwolf: ah OK |
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| 14:56.01 | asg | fbi: set gid on the directory, use a correct umask |
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| 14:57.01 | RichiH | we have a spamflood |
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| 14:57.16 | asg | RichiH: time to get some bread and mayo |
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| 14:57.45 | thorie | how do i run apache as www-user? |
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| 14:57.54 | RichiH | asg: heh |
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| 14:57.59 | asg | thorie: it runs as www-data, what's wrong with that. |
| 14:58.10 | thorie | sorry i meant www-data |
| 14:58.21 | thorie | thorie:/home/tak# su www-data |
| 14:58.21 | thorie | thorie:/home/tak# whoami |
| 14:58.21 | thorie | root |
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| 14:58.35 | asg | thorie: give www-data a shell in /etc/password, not /bin/false |
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| 14:58.54 | thorie | www-data:x:0:0:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh |
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| 14:59.26 | asg | thorie: what does 'id' return? |
| 14:59.37 | thorie | thorie:/home/tak# id |
| 14:59.38 | thorie | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
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| 14:59.55 | asg | thorie: wait, why does www-data have uid 0 and gid 0? |
| 15:00.02 | thorie | asg: i don't know |
| 15:00.08 | asg | thorie: is this a debian machine? |
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| 15:00.12 | thorie | yes |
| 15:00.22 | Yiroon | Does anyone know why special characters in the console show as question marks, but when autocompleting the filenames on the command line it does show the real characters. |
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| 15:00.26 | asg | thorie: a real one, not a cheap knockoff like kanotix? |
| 15:00.31 | thorie | a real one |
| 15:00.32 | fbi | that worked, thank you asg |
| 15:00.36 | asg | fbi: you're welcome |
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| 15:01.06 | asg | thorie: paste the output of 'grep www-data /etc/passwd' |
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| 15:01.34 | thorie | thorie:/home/tak# grep www-data /etc/passwd |
| 15:01.35 | thorie | www-data:x:0:0:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh |
| 15:01.42 | drac | owned? |
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| 15:01.49 | asg | thorie: that is very wrong. Do you also have a root entry? |
| 15:01.51 | aeroflot | how can one tell witch version of xorg is installed in a debian system? |
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| 15:02.05 | thorie | thorie:/home/tak# grep root /etc/passwd |
| 15:02.05 | thorie | root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash |
| 15:02.05 | asg | aeroflot: X -version |
| 15:02.07 | drac | thorie: lastlog | grep www-data |
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| 15:02.16 | aeroflot | asg, merci |
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| 15:02.23 | thorie | www-data **Never logged in** |
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| 15:02.45 | drac | it's still dead wrong.. |
| 15:02.51 | asg | drac: agreed |
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| 15:03.01 | aeroflot | asg, is there a way to see the historial of the package? witch versions have been installed and when? |
| 15:03.04 | thorie | hmm that's weird |
| 15:03.15 | thorie | my web server was working until only 3 days ago |
| 15:03.18 | asg | aeroflot: if you use sid, yes. If not and use aptitude, yes. Otherwise, no. |
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| 15:03.27 | thorie | it stopped working and i haven't even logged into the machine |
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| 15:03.43 | asg | thorie: then someone probably cracked that machine. What debian version? |
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| 15:03.46 | thorie | i didn't change any of the settings on that debian box |
| 15:03.49 | drac | thorie: It's very hard to imagine it just chaging uid and gid to 0 by itself, and if you are only root, and you didn't do it.. I think that box is compromised. |
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| 15:04.19 | thorie | asg: how do i check the debian version? i think it's 3.0 but im not sure |
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| 15:04.27 | asg | thorie: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:04.39 | thorie | 3.1 |
| 15:04.44 | asg | thorie: also, see if stable, testing, unstable, woody, sarge, etch, or sid exists in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:05.15 | thorie | it says "sarge" |
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| 15:05.36 | asg | thorie: when was the last time you did an upgrade? do you have security sources also in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 15:05.42 | thorie | my root password is easy to guess and i have ssh open |
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| 15:05.59 | asg | thorie: anything in /var/log/auth.log, /root/.bash_history? |
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| 15:06.12 | asg | thorie: also maybe /var/log/apache/* |
| 15:06.27 | drac | thorie: grep -i permitroot /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 15:07.27 | thorie | asg: yeah i have security sources, and bash history doesn't show anything weird |
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| 15:07.56 | thorie | there's a ton of stuff in auth.log |
| 15:07.57 | thorie | Sep 17 03:09:05 thorie sshd[2783]: Failed password for illegal user armand from 82.194.71.124 port 59044 ssh2 |
| 15:08.00 | thorie | Sep 17 03:09:06 thorie sshd[2787]: Illegal user romeo from 82.194.71.124 |
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| 15:08.06 | thorie | error messages like those go on forever |
| 15:08.11 | thorie | there must be a million |
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| 15:08.28 | asg | thorie: you'll see those due to automated bot attacks. You need to find ones that show access granted, especially at odd times. |
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| 15:09.50 | thorie | i see |
| 15:10.00 | thorie | maybe ssh isn't as secure as i thought |
| 15:10.04 | drac | thorie: grep -i permitroot /etc/ssh/sshd_config should be No |
| 15:10.15 | liable | not with an easy password.. |
| 15:10.24 | thorie | etc/ssh/sshd_config:PermitRootLogin yes |
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| 15:10.37 | liable | its yes by default |
| 15:10.40 | asg | thorie: it is provided you have good password policy. However, since www-data is the affected user, I'd start looking for intrustion there also. |
| 15:10.44 | drac | liable: really? that's stupid |
| 15:10.44 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 15:10.50 | asg | abrotman: morning |
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| 15:11.04 | abrotman | yeah .. it is |
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| 15:11.30 | thorie | asg: could these problems also be caused by a dying hard disk drive? |
| 15:11.33 | liable | drac: sure is. |
| 15:11.52 | asg | thorie: I doubt it. |
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| 15:12.52 | thorie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.54 | thorie | 952 |
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| 15:13.08 | thorie | i ran that smart tool |
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| 15:13.16 | thorie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.20 | thorie | 50 |
| 15:13.32 | asg | thorie: corruption rarely manifests itself by setting both the uid and gid of www-data in /etc/password to 0. |
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| 15:13.39 | thorie | i see |
| 15:13.53 | thorie | i have't run apt-get update in a while, with security sources |
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| 15:13.57 | liable | how about checking the timestamp of password/ |
| 15:13.58 | asg | thorie: also, does grep www-data /etc/group return uid 0 or 33 |
| 15:13.59 | thorie | maybe someone found a hole |
| 15:14.21 | thorie | thorie:/root# grep www-data /etc/group |
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| 15:14.22 | thorie | www-data:x:33:tak,egach |
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| 15:14.37 | drac | why do you have other people in www-data group? |
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| 15:14.55 | abrotman | because |
| 15:14.57 | thorie | i forgot exactly but i think i wanted to let others modify the files in /var/www |
| 15:15.01 | fken | hello is there a way to unzip ace and rar files? |
| 15:15.07 | abrotman | !unrar |
| 15:15.07 | dpkg | unrar is probably a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about unrar-free |
| 15:15.09 | asg | fken: unace |
| 15:15.15 | fken | thanks |
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| 15:15.21 | asg | fken: or unp |
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| 15:15.30 | fken | btw hello abrotman |
| 15:15.51 | asg | thorie: do other users on your machine have shell access besides yourself? |
| 15:15.58 | abrotman | hi |
| 15:16.01 | fken | !unrar-free |
| 15:16.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, unrar-free is an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about unrar for 3.0). in main unstable |
| 15:16.03 | thorie | not really |
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| 15:16.35 | asg | thorie: if you haven't updated in a while, there have been a number of security fixes. That might have allowed an avenue of attack. |
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| 15:16.55 | thorie | i think someone hacked it once because i made a special ssh access account called: files/files so that people could SCP files to me |
| 15:17.07 | thorie | and then the files/files account password changed for some reason |
| 15:17.15 | thorie | so i had to change it back |
| 15:17.32 | asg | thorie: you had better just wipe that box and start again. It is probably now infiltrated with a lot of backdoors and cannot be trusted. |
| 15:17.34 | fken | will these command lines be compatible with ark or other guis ? |
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| 15:18.32 | thorie | asg: ah okay. and i might give it a new hard drive |
| 15:18.44 | asg | thorie: probably a good idea also |
| 15:19.03 | fbi | fken: i believe ark uses unrar, so yeah |
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| 15:19.14 | fken | and for winace ? |
| 15:19.25 | fken | hum... oups ace i meant |
| 15:19.37 | TobiX | unace? |
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| 15:19.54 | fken | yeah unace 3rd try was the good one |
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| 15:20.14 | champ | hi every body |
| 15:20.18 | thorie | what's the apt-get command to install security updates? |
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| 15:20.20 | fken | hey |
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| 15:20.24 | shuning | hi doctor champ |
| 15:20.37 | champ | fine shuning? |
| 15:20.45 | champ | hey fken? |
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| 15:21.20 | fken | champ: hello i you rrefer or good day |
| 15:21.27 | fken | *prefer |
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| 15:21.32 | champ | who is interest to be a moderator? |
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| 15:22.23 | Quibus | xwolf: Hmm, I can't get it right completely. When I remove certain lines from the session, it seems to work, but when I then choose 'save session' in the logout dialog, it gets back :/ |
| 15:22.32 | fken | champ: i would if i had enough of time to do a good job |
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| 15:22.38 | orchid | thorie: you have something like: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free in your sources? |
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| 15:22.43 | champ | what of fken? |
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| 15:22.45 | Skaag | some explot is holding my /usr/bin/pstree hostage, I can't erase it or move it, and its size is strange: 12340 |
| 15:23.01 | Skaag | How do I find what's running and holding this file? |
| 15:23.09 | wsmith | Skaag, lsof, fuser? |
| 15:23.15 | asg | Skaag: also, lsattr |
| 15:23.15 | thorie | orchid: yes |
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| 15:23.35 | fken | champ: I will go away soon : i just needed an information |
| 15:23.44 | champ | what for ? |
| 15:23.47 | thorie | orchid: but i dont know the command to download and install all security updates |
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| 15:23.53 | Skaag | s---ia----------- pstree |
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| 15:24.10 | Skaag | wsmith: there was some process listening on a high port when I did lsof | grep LISTEN |
| 15:24.11 | gromgull | Hi, is it possible to do an install over a wireless network? |
| 15:24.20 | Skaag | wsmith: however I stupidly killed it before I could lsof | grep <pid> |
| 15:24.22 | yang26 | I found one old card, but dont know exactly what it uses for...Its Creative labs DXR3 DVD decoder card. But what does it do? |
| 15:24.34 | kombi | how do I grub about a new kernel? |
| 15:24.35 | wsmith | Skaag, man rpc services listen on high ports. could have been one of those |
| 15:24.35 | abrotman | gromgull: if the card works from the debian kernel .. yes .. that's how i did mine |
| 15:24.37 | Skaag | wsmith: now i'm trying to somehow trigger that exploit again to find out where it is |
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| 15:24.49 | Skaag | wsmith: I find it hard to believe, that box was 0wned for sure.. :\ |
| 15:24.51 | orchid | thorie: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade is what I do every now and then (well weekly at least) |
| 15:24.53 | fken | champ: for finding a unrar and a unace tool and gui |
| 15:24.53 | gromgull | abrotman: So there is some wifi in the debian kernel? |
| 15:25.05 | champ | http://membres.lycos.fr/meesirichatphon MY home PAGE |
| 15:25.31 | asg | orchid: it should be done each time there is a DSA |
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| 15:26.15 | abrotman | gromgull: yes .. depends on the card though |
| 15:26.30 | thorie | orchid: are you sure about dist-upgrade? it says i need to download 140 MB of files |
| 15:26.40 | gromgull | ok, i'll have a look for a list of supported cards... mine is a dlink... |
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| 15:27.04 | fken | pfff I ask debian to open kwrite one minute ago and its still not open |
| 15:27.07 | orchid | thorie: this is Sarge yes? |
| 15:27.11 | thorie | orchid: yes, sarge |
| 15:27.17 | abrotman | gromgull: matters more with the chipset .. is it 11b or 11g ? |
| 15:27.28 | gromgull | G |
| 15:27.32 | gromgull | G650... |
| 15:27.33 | thorie | 207 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 15:27.33 | thorie | Need to get 143MB of archives. |
| 15:27.35 | abrotman | chances are slim |
| 15:27.40 | Talky | hey guys |
| 15:27.43 | Talky | hello |
| 15:27.44 | Talky | :) |
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| 15:27.45 | abrotman | especially with dlink |
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| 15:28.22 | Talky | let me know how can i configure Hsf modem in debian |
| 15:28.37 | abrotman | !winmodem |
| 15:28.37 | dpkg | GPL driver and info can be found in http://www-124.ibm.com/acpmodem/ http://www.linmodems.org, or http://linux.nf/lesbell.htm or here is a black list of known to be winmodems: http://start.at/modem/ and http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. See also: winmodem-trick, or a 3Com/USRobotics trademark, or see <slmodem> |
| 15:28.46 | Talky | yes abrotman |
| 15:29.06 | fken | Talkyhello |
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| 15:29.32 | Talky | hi fken |
| 15:29.35 | fken | Talky: is it an old olitec one ? |
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| 15:29.52 | Talky | fken its an zoltrix k56flex |
| 15:29.53 | abrotman | !hsf |
| 15:29.53 | dpkg | from memory, hsf is the Conexant SoftModem. Need it to work on Linux/Debian? Try here: http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/ |
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| 15:30.37 | fken | abrotman: connexant drivers werent free the last time i heard about them |
| 15:30.44 | orchid | Talky: I used http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/downloads-installer.php for Conexant modem chipsets |
| 15:31.04 | Talky | orchid |
| 15:31.07 | Talky | i did the same |
| 15:31.14 | Talky | but they aren't working |
| 15:31.17 | fken | abrotman:paying 15¤ to be able to use a modem that cost something like 10¤ today... its a shame |
| 15:31.25 | Talky | they timeout after 45 secs |
| 15:31.28 | abrotman | don't complain to me . i didn't buy the thing |
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| 15:31.42 | orchid | Talky: the modem dials? |
| 15:31.59 | Talky | orchid it dials the string ATDT13154321 |
| 15:32.06 | Talky | as i see it using plog |
| 15:32.16 | Talky | and i do hear a clicky sound |
| 15:32.17 | fken | abrotman: nor me : I was forced to use ADSL ... :D good excuse isnt it ? |
| 15:32.27 | Talky | but after 45 secs or so its says |
| 15:32.29 | Talky | alarm |
| 15:32.38 | Talky | and script faild |
| 15:32.49 | Talky | how to go about it? |
| 15:33.25 | Talky | i also used wvdial and its does the same by saying no carrier found |
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| 15:33.59 | fken | hum... does someone know why my i386 debian sarge/testing (when i first install it, Sarge was still the testing release) didnt install a floppy disk ? |
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| 15:34.13 | gromgull | hmm... where do i find files suitable for a USB key installation? Network install pages only gives me CD or floppy images... |
| 15:34.14 | fken | is there a recursive error |
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| 15:34.22 | azeem | fken: what do you mean "install a floppy disk"? |
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| 15:34.43 | fken | azeem: debian simply doesnt recognize the peripheral |
| 15:35.07 | azeem | fken: maybe you need to load a kernel module |
| 15:35.09 | orchid | Talky: is no carrier found the same as a timeout? |
| 15:35.10 | Talky | orchid do you know any setting about timeout or so..... |
| 15:35.14 | fken | but windows was able to use it |
| 15:35.27 | Talky | yes orchid i assume |
| 15:35.37 | fken | azeem which one ? |
| 15:36.03 | orchid | Talky: try it in minicom maybe, that will rule out the modem and drivers |
| 15:36.20 | Talky | minicom? |
| 15:36.22 | azeem | fken: I don't know, I don't have a floppy drive |
| 15:36.23 | Talky | what is it |
| 15:36.27 | fken | and unfortunately i still havent installed any network... here I am using my amd64 and its my laptop which has no floppy disk |
| 15:36.35 | orchid | apt-get it, its a communication app |
| 15:36.51 | gromgull | ah... the page does have all the info, never mind... |
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| 15:37.08 | fken | azeem could the installation of the latest etch kernel (2.6.12-1) helps me ? |
| 15:37.29 | Talky | oh ic |
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| 15:37.45 | Talky | thnx orchid |
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| 15:38.00 | azeem | fken: really, you should adress the whole chan, I have no idea |
| 15:38.10 | stew | fken: whatever kernel you are running will already have floppy support |
| 15:38.13 | fken | azeem:ok |
| 15:38.14 | stew | fken: modprobe floppy |
| 15:38.21 | orchid | Talky: apart from that I'm not sure how else to fix your problem :-\ |
| 15:38.52 | fken | stew: ok i boot my laptop and tell you whats will happen |
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| 15:39.37 | Talky | well i hope i find it soon |
| 15:39.39 | Talky | orafu |
| 15:39.42 | Talky | orchid |
| 15:39.51 | Talky | thnx anyway |
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| 15:40.07 | H202 | hello. is there some document that helps upgrading woody to sarge, what problems to except etc... it wants to remove cyrus-imap if i want to do an upgrade, but i don't know how to avoid that. |
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| 15:40.16 | H202 | expect |
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| 15:40.37 | stew | H202: /msg dpkg woody->sarge ; http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/releasenotes |
| 15:40.38 | Daller | hi, im kinda new to linux and debian, i need to know how to turn the screensaver off in console.. anyone?? |
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| 15:41.23 | Daller | no-one??? |
| 15:41.23 | Skaag | so how do I find out why my /usr/bin/pstree is locked? |
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| 15:41.34 | Skaag | I mean something is not letting me erase that file |
| 15:41.41 | H202 | thanks stew, that's it! |
| 15:41.44 | asg | Skaag: lsattr /usr/bin/pstree |
| 15:41.46 | stew | Daller: /msg dpkg screen blanking |
| 15:42.02 | Skaag | asg: s---ia----------- /usr/bin/pstree |
| 15:42.08 | fken | another question : its about usb key /mp3 ; writing mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /removable makes me able to see and write on my usbkey BUT sometimes the key refuses to umout and anyway konquror report me strange uploading time |
| 15:42.13 | Daller | okey, thx, ill try that |
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| 15:42.29 | fken | is it normal or do i change my way to mount it |
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| 15:42.41 | asg | Skaag: man chattr |
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| 15:42.59 | H202 | fken: lsof | grep "removable" will show you what files are open |
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| 15:43.09 | stew | fken: if you can't umount it, it's becuase some file is open on it |
| 15:43.14 | fken | what i called strange uploading time is something like 5seconds to send 50Mb |
| 15:43.28 | Skaag | asg: thanks |
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| 15:44.01 | H202 | fken: also remember that you should not be located in /removable when trying to unmount |
| 15:44.26 | fken | H202: lol off course |
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| 15:44.35 | fken | H202: thanks for the command |
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| 15:45.18 | fken | H202: is it normal that my usb key is /dev/sdb and that my camera is /dev/sdb1 ? |
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| 15:46.08 | RhinozAFK | I have a database error posted in flood how do I correct this |
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| 15:46.55 | RhinozAFK | I tried logging in as root |
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| 15:46.58 | Blissex | RhinozAFK: think carefully how #flood works... And try to ask better worded questions. |
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| 15:47.28 | netman1 | After chaining through several ssh boxes, I want to connect directly to the original machine from which the session started. How do I find out the name or ip-address from that box? |
| 15:47.29 | H202 | we missed that flood |
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| 15:48.08 | fken | stew: perfect modprobe floppy was enough thank you |
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| 15:48.29 | fken | will it modprobe it automatically at boot or not ? |
| 15:48.42 | RhinozAFK | posted again |
| 15:48.50 | plan9 | is any one working for adsl/dsl service provider for security |
| 15:48.55 | H202 | RhinozAFK: try #mysql, is the file there and owned by mysql.mysql ... |
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| 15:49.05 | valdyn | fken: "echo floppy >> /etc/modules", then it will |
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| 15:49.54 | RhinozAFK | thanks I will try #mysql and not sure if there is a file owned by mysql.mysql I'll check |
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| 15:50.22 | fken | valdyn : so the command echo write something in a file... does it change a line too ? or not ? |
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| 15:50.59 | H202 | fken: one > creates a new file, two >> will add to the end of the file |
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| 15:51.31 | sdschulze | Hi; how do I use dpkg's --root/--admindir/--instdir? |
| 15:51.34 | H202 | plan9: what do you need to know? |
| 15:52.03 | sdschulze | I have a GNU/Hurd system mounted in /gnu. |
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| 15:52.23 | lkthomas | bd2 |
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| 15:52.24 | lkthomas | hey |
| 15:52.28 | lkthomas | I found something interesting |
| 15:52.29 | fken | H202: i need to learn the basic command line because im using linux since 1998/1999 and i still dunno that... its a shame |
| 15:52.36 | sdschulze | Now I want to check which package /gnu/hurd/ext2fs.static belongs to. |
| 15:52.39 | lkthomas | I use the rule that you just given to me |
| 15:52.45 | sdschulze | (The GNU/Hurd system is Debian, too.) |
| 15:52.46 | lkthomas | and I try to do iptables -L |
| 15:52.50 | lkthomas | it doesn't shows up |
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| 15:52.56 | lkthomas | is that means something wrong ? |
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| 15:53.14 | lkthomas | paste in here |
| 15:53.14 | lkthomas | # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p udp --dport 6901 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.22 |
| 15:53.15 | lkthomas | # iptables -L | grep 6901 |
| 15:53.15 | lkthomas | # |
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| 15:53.22 | lkthomas | oopps |
| 15:53.23 | lkthomas | wrong windows |
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| 15:53.24 | H202 | lkhtomas: iptables -L -t nat |
| 15:53.25 | sdschulze | But 'dpkg --root=/gnu -S ext2fs.static' doesn't work. |
| 15:53.39 | lkthomas | thanks :) |
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| 15:53.58 | SimonRaven | might want to use -vn too. iptables --help for what they do |
| 15:54.07 | fken | how to give right to user when you mount without using the fstab ? |
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| 15:54.35 | SimonRaven | -o option. man mount |
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| 15:54.59 | Saafirosz | hello |
| 15:55.10 | SimonRaven | hi |
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| 15:55.22 | Saafirosz | someone knows how can I set up X server for ssh |
| 15:55.23 | Saafirosz | ? |
| 15:55.50 | SimonRaven | /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 15:56.01 | SimonRaven | or /msg dpkg tell me about sshx |
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| 15:57.05 | Konky | i just upgraded my debian sarge, and now my system seems to be almost dead |
| 15:57.21 | Konky | half of the libraries now suddenly require executable stack *SHOCK* |
| 15:57.47 | fbi | Konky: put your pc on a boat, put the boat in some water, burn the boat |
| 15:57.53 | fbi | have a viking funeral |
| 15:57.57 | Konky | anyone with a clue ? |
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| 15:58.24 | azeem | Konky: do you have a pxe kernel or something? |
| 15:58.29 | Konky | ofcourse |
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| 15:58.36 | Konky | grsecurity |
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| 15:59.18 | Konky | i doubt the system will survive a reboot |
| 15:59.18 | SimonRaven | pxe != gresec(2) |
| 15:59.22 | Konky | ye i mean grsec |
| 15:59.23 | sdschulze | Or is this rather a #debian-devel question? |
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| 15:59.31 | fken | and the famous subsidiary question : does anyone know how to install a wacom graphical tablet ? |
| 15:59.33 | Konky | 2.4 kernel |
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| 16:00.03 | azeem | Konky: which one exactly? |
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| 16:00.25 | Konky | sec |
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| 16:00.50 | Konky | 1.9.14 |
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| 16:01.21 | azeem | uhm, the kernel version I mean |
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| 16:01.37 | fken | azeem:lol |
| 16:01.45 | Konky | 2.4.25 |
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| 16:02.28 | asg | Konky: 2.4.31 is current and there are grsecurity patches for it |
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| 16:02.46 | Konky | and this will fix the issues with the new sarge ? |
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| 16:03.03 | azeem | I say it's worth a try |
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| 16:03.07 | asg | Konky: I run a custom 2.4.31 + grsec2 patches on some of my sarge production machines without problem |
| 16:03.25 | asg | Konky: Linux sysmon-central 2.4.31-grsec #1 SMP Fri Jul 1 11:26:26 EDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:03.32 | Konky | i ran it too until today ^^ |
| 16:03.37 | fken | so guys you solve a lot of questions i had thanks ! |
| 16:03.39 | Konky | after a upgrade -> dead |
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| 16:03.42 | Konky | i'll update kernel now, thanks |
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| 16:04.10 | asg | Konky: make sure you get the paxctl or deprecated chpax utility (if you compile your grsec kernels with pax support) |
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| 16:04.41 | Konky | yea, as long as i don't have to disable protection for all binaries? |
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| 16:05.32 | asg | Konky: I never had to, only for java vms |
| 16:05.44 | p30n_ | anyone familiar with SNORT ? |
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| 16:05.51 | Konky | ye java and x usually require it |
| 16:05.57 | p30n_ | what is it ? |
| 16:06.14 | asg | Konky: I don't run X on my servers so I don't know there. |
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| 16:06.42 | asg | p30n_: an Intrusion Detection Service |
| 16:06.45 | Konky | same here |
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| 16:07.10 | fken | hmmm in fact ark still doesnt open rar files : i installed unrar-free but i dunno how to change the configuration of ark |
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| 16:07.55 | bartden | with what player can i play .asx files |
| 16:08.03 | asg | p30n_: apt-cache show snort (for the package description) |
| 16:08.13 | asg | bartden: mplayer probably (/msg dpkg mplayer) |
| 16:08.14 | Saafirosz | xauth there is no suck package? |
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| 16:08.50 | asg | Saafirosz: it's in xbase-clients |
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| 16:09.16 | Saafirosz | aham |
| 16:09.18 | Saafirosz | yhanks |
| 16:09.25 | fken | is there a way to include unrar and unace in the konqueror navigator ? |
| 16:09.31 | fken | like zip ones |
| 16:09.32 | asg | fken: #debian-kde might know |
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| 16:09.49 | Saafirosz | I am installing xbase-clients at the moment |
| 16:09.59 | fken | asg:sure youre right |
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| 16:12.46 | RhinozAFK | I am setting up a computer to be a web server on my old server I had a seperate /var partition is that still a good idea or does it matter as much |
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| 16:12.53 | ferris1 | I have taken my laptop to a local hotspot where everyone can connect to the internet wirelessly (for free)... what do i have to do to connect to their router? |
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| 16:13.05 | asg | RhinozAFK: it is, at least to prevent logs from overflowing / and causing issues. |
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| 16:13.36 | asg | ferris1: get their ESSID and or key, man 7 wireless, man 5 interfaces. (provided you have support for your wireless card.) |
| 16:13.49 | H202 | RhinozAFK: maybe also mount that partition with noatime parameter |
| 16:14.14 | cahoot | hmm what's the trigger for the nvidia instruction? |
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| 16:14.21 | asg | !nvidia one-liner |
| 16:14.22 | dpkg | i heard nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 16:14.38 | cahoot | thanks |
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| 16:14.57 | RhinozAFK | ok are there any other partitions I should create? |
| 16:15.11 | Saafirosz | asg I've installed the xbase-clients |
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| 16:15.26 | Saafirosz | and how can i set up the X server now |
| 16:15.27 | asg | RhinozAFK: /tmp, /usr, /boot, /usr/local, and /home are often suggested. |
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| 16:15.46 | asg | Saafirosz: what are you trying to do? |
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| 16:16.06 | Saafirosz | to set up X server (for ssh) |
| 16:16.10 | Saafirosz | asg |
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| 16:16.11 | asg | Saafirosz: /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 16:16.54 | megabit | Hi. |
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| 16:19.19 | Saafirosz | asg I ve put the X11 forwarding to yes ...and now how can i restsrt sshd |
| 16:19.19 | Saafirosz | ? |
| 16:19.21 | Konky | lol @ asg , the kernel can not be compiled anymore |
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| 16:19.34 | Konky | /usr/src/linux-2.4.31/include/asm/processor.h:75: error: array type has incomplete element type |
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| 16:20.11 | Konky | my last ssh session ^^ the others died off because system is unstable since upgrade |
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| 16:21.52 | orbweaver | hi .. need help with upgrade to sarge!!! |
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| 16:22.37 | Konky | i suggest not to do that ^^ |
| 16:22.41 | Konky | since i did it my sys is dead |
| 16:23.01 | Konky | glibc is incompatible with my grsecurity version, gcc is incompatible with latest kernel source tree |
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| 16:23.29 | orbweaver | followed instructions for sarge upgrade .. did aptitude install aptitude .. process stopped .. cant read Xserver directory |
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| 16:23.46 | orbweaver | any way to recover before reboot |
| 16:23.49 | orbweaver | ? |
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| 16:23.57 | paxed | how do i force remove a package? |
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| 16:24.12 | orbweaver | I guess . paxed |
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| 16:24.20 | ttl- | orbweaver: i just upgraded to sarge with no problems |
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| 16:24.52 | paxed | orbweaver: what? |
| 16:25.13 | orbweaver | I thought no problems but aptitude install aptitude removed 5 pkgs .. then screwed up on xserver-rage128 |
| 16:25.19 | ttl- | orbweaver: i just changed all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list to sarge |
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| 16:25.39 | ttl- | orbweaver: then ran apt-get update |
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| 16:25.45 | orbweaver | ttl that's probably my problem .. |
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| 16:25.50 | ttl- | orbweaver: then ran ap-get dist-upgrade |
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| 16:26.36 | dvs | orbweaver: How did you upgrade tot sarge then? |
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| 16:27.01 | danieldg | paxed: dpkg --force-all -r packagename but beware of breaking other packages |
| 16:27.25 | orbweaver | I installed aptitude .. as instructions recommend .. then did "aptitude install aptitude" again as recommended |
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| 16:27.45 | fken | see ya |
| 16:27.49 | dvs | orbweaver: Yeah, that's fine. But that doesn't upgrade to sarge yet |
| 16:28.17 | orbweaver | that's where the problem is .. upgrade on aptitude tried to install all sorts of libraries. |
| 16:28.30 | paxed | danieldg: thank you. (dpkg --force-help is a bit... verbose ;) |
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| 16:28.42 | dvs | orbweaver: Why is that a problem? |
| 16:28.47 | orbweaver | so now I have woody with some things changed for aptitude |
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| 16:29.21 | dvs | orbweaver: Now change the /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to sarge then update |
| 16:29.29 | orbweaver | dvs .. aptitude upgrade left my woody system in a weird state .. |
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| 16:29.58 | dvs | orbweaver: Weird enough that you can't upgrade? |
| 16:30.01 | Zugschlus | I'd like to have something (preferably in user space) which allows me to transparently mount a crypto loop device: User types mount /media/crypto, system transparently does the correct losetup and cryptsetup calls, asks user for passphrase, mounts loopback. Does Debian have a beast like that? |
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| 16:30.38 | orbweaver | ok dvs .. I'll try that .. I have stable main contrib non-free now .. change stable to sarge? |
| 16:30.52 | dvs | orbweaver: That would be good ;-) |
| 16:31.02 | danieldg | Zugschlus: just put the cryptoloop mount in /etc/fstab with user option |
| 16:31.06 | orbweaver | ok . thanks dvs |
| 16:31.13 | paxed | danieldg: that doesn't work. i get: dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting 'foo' with different file 'bar', not allowed. |
| 16:31.17 | dvs | orbweaver: no problem |
| 16:31.59 | orbweaver | dvs .. think I should try the "aptitude install aptitude" again???? |
| 16:32.09 | dvs | orbweaver: No need to |
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| 16:32.36 | dvs | orbweaver: After you change the sources.list file, just "aptitude update" |
| 16:33.19 | cahoot | asg: never tested module assistant before - it is a beauty |
| 16:33.34 | Area-51 | i just plugged in a usb memory card reader for digi cams and the kernel picked it up, but i dont want it to. i cant use it in vmware if its used. also, ive got a usb hdd, so i guess if i remove the usb mass storage device modules that both wont work... can someone help me out? (debian testing, custom kernel 2.6.11.11) |
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| 16:34.37 | Area-51 | hmm, lspci only shows 11 modules loaded... |
| 16:34.37 | orbweaver | dvs .. aptitude update seemed to go fine |
| 16:34.39 | Area-51 | erm |
| 16:34.42 | Area-51 | lsmod |
| 16:34.52 | dvs | orbweaver: Now, "aptitude dist-upgrade" |
| 16:35.26 | orbweaver | dvs .. instructions recommend aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade |
| 16:35.45 | orbweaver | dvs .. think I should do that? |
| 16:35.52 | dvs | orbweaver: If it says so.... |
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| 16:36.58 | orbweaver | ok .. upgrading .. should take awhile .. dvs .. I'll be back if something weird happens again .. thanks!!!! |
| 16:37.11 | dvs | orbweaver: No problem |
| 16:37.23 | Schmock | hi i would like to know if it's possible to install debian from harddisk, when i copied the dvds to harddisk |
| 16:37.25 | _zap_ | hi. does anyone know a sniffer/tool/approach which allows to dump data (text in my case) in several files where each file represents a connection. tcpick almost does it but not exactly |
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| 16:37.55 | Area-51 | anyone have any recomendations on my usb device problem? |
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| 16:39.35 | ke6isf | !tell Schmock -about d-i |
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| 16:41.47 | ke6isf | Schmock: There are instructions in how to install from a hard disk in the msg that dpkg sent you. |
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| 16:42.20 | Schmock | yes i'm searching on this site^^ |
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| 16:44.20 | rss | Hi, anyone with a Sony Vaio Laptop here? |
| 16:44.30 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 16:44.30 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> consider the answer to be "yes" if the program is actually in Debian.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 16:44.50 | rss | it is not a "program"! |
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| 16:44.56 | ke6isf | ok, fine... |
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| 16:44.58 | ke6isf | ~polls |
| 16:45.01 | apt | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or our army of rabid weasels will hurt you. Usually, people other than those with the exact same set up can help you and those who have sometimes will not be able to help you. Also see <ask> |
| 16:45.01 | ke6isf | !polls |
| 16:45.01 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 16:45.05 | dvs | ha |
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| 16:45.19 | rss | well asking a specific question |
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| 16:45.20 | clavner | is there anyway I can use gcc switches like march while using make-kpkg? |
| 16:45.27 | abrotman | clavner: yes |
| 16:45.32 | abrotman | well . dunno about marc h |
| 16:45.33 | abrotman | march |
| 16:45.37 | abrotman | but there are some |
| 16:45.44 | abrotman | man kernel-pkg.conf iirc |
| 16:45.53 | stew | clavner: march is set depending on what choice for processor you choose in .config |
| 16:45.55 | clavner | abrotman, thanks |
| 16:46.10 | rss | curse me... but i need to know how to change the monitor settings |
| 16:46.24 | abrotman | stew: is it nice enough out for a ride? |
| 16:46.26 | abrotman | !drxx rss |
| 16:46.27 | dpkg | rss: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:46.32 | stew | abrotman: it is |
| 16:46.35 | orbweaver | dvs .. My download is showing 14.9kB/sec .. 8 hours to go .. seems really slow for my DSL .. wonder if it is the http://http.us.debian org |
| 16:46.37 | rss | no sir |
| 16:46.55 | rss | real monitor |
| 16:46.56 | stew | abrotman: i'll be going in a couple of hours |
| 16:47.06 | abrotman | stew: it's really cloudy here |
| 16:47.16 | rss | output unit as they teach in schools |
| 16:47.18 | dvs | orbweaver: Maybe. But a mirror may not have everything you need. |
| 16:47.30 | rss | not xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:47.46 | ke6isf | !enter |
| 16:47.47 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 16:47.50 | abrotman | did you read the whole thing ? |
| 16:48.08 | abrotman | and who calls it an output unit? |
| 16:48.29 | sunkan_ | I am running "etch" on my workstations, with some packages from unstable when I don't want to wait for it to enter into etch. But I also have the deb's for sarge in my sources.list, my thought was that maybe some packages are not in etch but are found in sarge/sid. So my question is... can I skip sarge's deb's and still get the same amount of useful packages from etch deb's? |
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| 16:48.37 | rss | that is what my fabulous teacher taught me |
| 16:48.44 | orbweaver | dvs . should I be using ftp in the sources file? can I stop the upgrade download and try another connection .. or just be patient? |
| 16:48.48 | abrotman | !tell sunkan_ about pinning |
| 16:49.02 | dvs | orbweaver: At this point, I'd just be patient |
| 16:49.16 | orbweaver | thanks for the advice dvs |
| 16:49.24 | rss | please tell me the secret of changing the monitor settings in a sony vaio laptop |
| 16:49.24 | orbweaver | I'll go have lunch! |
| 16:49.35 | orbweaver | bye |
| 16:49.40 | ke6isf | rss: Try asking Sony yet? |
| 16:49.40 | dvs | ttyl |
| 16:49.47 | rss | my good old amd k6 machine is conked up |
| 16:49.51 | Daedalus_ | rss: define "monitor settings" |
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| 16:50.06 | rss | change brightness, contrast and a |
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| 16:50.20 | ke6isf | !tell rss -about enter |
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| 16:50.24 | ke6isf | oy.... |
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| 16:50.37 | rss | change brightness, contrast and sorry for the enter |
| 16:50.59 | plb | Is there a way to see what configure options were used to build a pkg? |
| 16:51.04 | rss | pressed enter instead of backspace |
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| 16:51.08 | sandman | So what's the consensus on the Preemptive kernel? |
| 16:51.11 | sunkan_ | abrotman: Thanks, the pinning I'm using is working ok I'm just wondering if there is any possibility that I'm missing some good packages if I remove sarge from sources.list |
| 16:51.12 | sandman | Good, bad, neither? |
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| 16:51.27 | rss | ke6isf, any idea? |
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| 16:51.44 | ke6isf | rss: No. That's why I suggested you contact Sony. |
| 16:51.49 | stew | plb: apt-get source pkgname ; that will download the source and unpack it, then look at debian/rules in the source dir |
| 16:51.50 | rss | that is why I asked for gentlemen with that brand of laptops |
| 16:51.50 | ke6isf | !tell rss -about laptop |
| 16:52.01 | rss | did it no response at all |
| 16:52.01 | plb | stew: thanks |
| 16:52.03 | ke6isf | rss: Follow the link that dpkg told you. That might help you. |
| 16:52.19 | amphi | rss: what laptop? |
| 16:52.25 | ke6isf | amphi: Vaio. |
| 16:52.38 | amphi | uhuh |
| 16:52.40 | rss | I have got sarge up and running without any issues |
| 16:53.07 | amphi | rss: no useful info at linux-laptop.net ? |
| 16:53.10 | rss | sony refuses to help me as I am not the buyer |
| 16:53.14 | rss | nope\ |
| 16:53.18 | Daedalus_ | rss: There's a viao kernel module and associated utility |
| 16:53.41 | ke6isf | rss: Well, who is the buyer of the laptop? |
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| 16:53.46 | Daedalus_ | rss: I've used it with success. |
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| 16:54.03 | rss | yes sir... I am running sarge here but want to know simple thing as changing monitor's brighteness and contrast |
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| 16:54.29 | rss | ke6isf, my uncle's friend's far relative |
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| 16:54.51 | Daedalus_ | rss: Your monitor's brightness is controlled by a proprietary chip that sony refuses to open the API for. So, someone's reverse engineered the windows one. |
| 16:54.52 | ke6isf | rss: Do 'apt-cache search vaio'. |
| 16:55.15 | Daedalus_ | rss: things are as 'simple' as the originating company wants them |
| 16:55.16 | rss | so it needs to be changed through software |
| 16:55.24 | rss | unlike good old CRT monitors |
| 16:55.40 | abrotman | aren't those Fn-keys? |
| 16:55.46 | rss | yes |
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| 16:56.00 | rss | there is Fn key |
| 16:56.06 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: some of the viaos have software controlled fn combo keys |
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| 16:56.18 | rss | and brightness contrast motifs etched on function keys |
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| 16:56.33 | rss | it is an antique piece |
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| 16:56.41 | rss | 133 mhz |
| 16:56.45 | Daedalus_ | rss: I assume you've tried to use those keys and it hasn't worked |
| 16:56.57 | Daedalus_ | Hmm... that's old enough that it should be in hardware |
| 16:57.01 | rss | Fn+f4 ... kind? |
| 16:57.06 | Daedalus_ | right |
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| 16:57.19 | rss | wow |
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| 16:57.39 | rss | i get a eggplant coloured box |
| 16:57.49 | ircops | lol |
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| 16:57.59 | ke6isf | !lol |
| 16:57.59 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 16:58.07 | ircops | yes yes I know... |
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| 16:58.11 | rss | it comes and goes |
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| 16:58.24 | rss | dpkg: LoL! |
| 16:58.24 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 16:58.57 | Daedalus_ | rss: Alright, so play around with your function keys and see what you have and do not have. |
| 16:58.59 | reezeh | is dpkg an eggdrop bot? |
| 16:59.06 | goron | Is there a CAD program which understands DWG files for *n*x (except for AutoCAD)? |
| 16:59.07 | ke6isf | !what are you |
| 16:59.07 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 16:59.13 | rss | now how to change it ... to maximise and minimise brightness |
| 16:59.16 | ke6isf | goron: Try cycas3 |
| 16:59.24 | Quibus | dpkg: you rule |
| 16:59.36 | ke6isf | goron: I don't know if it does .dwg files (I think it does), but it's worth a shot. |
| 16:59.38 | rss | it was little stubborn with sticky coffee remains stuck inside |
| 16:59.49 | rss | f |
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| 17:00.37 | rss | I get what those keys stand for... now how to change!? |
| 17:00.40 | Quibus | xwolf: still here? |
| 17:00.42 | DarkNeo | hi |
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| 17:00.58 | ke6isf | rss: Does this model of vaio by any chance have a jog dial on it? |
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| 17:01.19 | rss | what is jog dial... how does it look like? |
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| 17:01.40 | ke6isf | rss: A knob or other spinney thing with a finger hole in it so you can wheel it around. |
| 17:01.43 | rss | no dial or wheel |
| 17:01.44 | rss | no |
| 17:01.47 | DarkNeo | sorry for this stupid question, but i'm already install debian end for default my wm is gnome where i can comment gnome for to put fluxbox? |
| 17:01.48 | ke6isf | rss: fark. |
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| 17:02.23 | goron | ke6isf: It seems it doesn't. |
| 17:02.25 | ke6isf | DarkNeo: apt-get install fluxbox && apt-get remove gnome, I suspect. |
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| 17:02.29 | ke6isf | goron: Damn. |
| 17:02.39 | DarkNeo | i installed gnome |
| 17:02.41 | megabit | I have got a problem. When i type aptz-get update and hit enter it write: var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.070-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) How can I remove this misstake? |
| 17:02.43 | DarkNeo | *fluxbox |
| 17:02.45 | rss | DarkNeo: in .xinitrc put a line saying exec fluxbox |
| 17:02.46 | DarkNeo | sorry |
| 17:02.56 | DarkNeo | i don't have in my home .xinitrc |
| 17:03.05 | rss | create a file called .xinitrc |
| 17:03.13 | DarkNeo | ok thanks |
| 17:03.15 | rss | in your favourite editor |
| 17:03.20 | DarkNeo | let my try |
| 17:03.30 | Flimzy | What are the most robust content management systems out there right now for managing a community web site w/ forums, questionaires, and organization of research type data? |
| 17:03.55 | ke6isf | megabit: Need the complete output of the apt-get command. Paste it into #flood please. |
| 17:04.02 | Daedalus_ | rss: http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/vaiolinux.html#jogdial <-- jogdial (which you don't have) and screen brightness stuff |
| 17:04.07 | rss | Flimzy, Drupal for control, Civicspace(a drupal derivative) for the polish |
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| 17:04.17 | rss | Daedalus_ it is not there |
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| 17:04.34 | Flimzy | rss: thanks |
| 17:04.45 | ke6isf | *headdesk* |
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| 17:05.38 | ke6isf | megabit: Take two, eh? =^^= |
| 17:05.42 | Daedalus_ | rss: .... you need the sonypi module. I dunno if debian has it stock now, but it's pretty simple to roll your own. Dpkg has good info on that. |
| 17:05.44 | megabit | ke6isf, What is flood? |
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| 17:06.00 | ke6isf | megabit: #flood is another channel. /join #flood please, and paste your output from the apt-get command. |
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| 17:06.17 | slept | is there a way to use newer lib than the ones installed on the system for a specific programm without breaking the system ? |
| 17:06.23 | rss | Daedalus_, this is a old vaio so it is working without tweaking so I need to know how to use it |
| 17:06.29 | Daedalus_ | And then you need to use the utility they reference. I suggest you google around |
| 17:06.45 | rss | or can not I change it without the kernel/software support? |
| 17:06.57 | Daedalus_ | rss: and I'm telling you that what you want to do will not work without tweaking. |
| 17:07.09 | rss | oh fine |
| 17:07.18 | rss | i understood |
| 17:07.23 | Daedalus_ | *nods* |
| 17:07.31 | goron | ke6isf: I found a java lib and a python lib though, but no userspace application. |
| 17:07.35 | megabit | ke6isf, I done it. |
| 17:07.43 | goron | ke6isf: I guess there's a real market for it. |
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| 17:07.56 | meff | is there an equivalant to ivman for debian? i want something thats not dependant on a gui to automount my drives |
| 17:07.58 | ke6isf | megabit: I see it. Second line pasted is your answer - kernel version issue. |
| 17:08.06 | ke6isf | megabit: Are you running Sarge? |
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| 17:08.13 | Anthro | Is it new policy that what used to be kernel-image is now linux-image? |
| 17:08.17 | megabit | ke6isf, No sid. |
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| 17:08.25 | dvs | Anthro: yes |
| 17:08.38 | ke6isf | megabit: Install a 2.6.12 or better kernel and retry. Other than that, I don't do sid. |
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| 17:08.55 | Konky | alright |
| 17:08.57 | Anthro | dvs: Was there an announcement I missed? |
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| 17:09.03 | Konky | i installed latest grsecurity and latest 2.4 kernel |
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| 17:09.04 | Konky | error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied |
| 17:09.09 | Konky | and still it's not working |
| 17:09.17 | megabit | ke6isf, But I can find it in synaptic. |
| 17:09.17 | dvs | Anthro: I don't think there was an announcement. |
| 17:09.29 | Konky | so debian is not PAX compatible anymore??? |
| 17:09.33 | ke6isf | megabit: Did you install the new kernel and reboot into it? |
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| 17:09.38 | rss | there are only applications which control the jog dial... i don't have it :( |
| 17:09.38 | Anthro | dvs: Is this to better support NetBSD and HURD, or is it just gratuitous? |
| 17:09.41 | Konky | i've been using debian for all the servers for years now ;/ |
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| 17:10.01 | rss | i mean deb packages |
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| 17:10.17 | azeem | Konky: did you check the but tracking system? |
| 17:10.23 | dvs | Anthro: It's mainly for HURD and the like, yes |
| 17:10.31 | Konky | i found a few bugs |
| 17:10.36 | Konky | but they say it's a fault of glibc |
| 17:10.37 | Konky | (lol) |
| 17:10.44 | megabit | ke6isf, I cant find this kernel in synaptic. |
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| 17:11.02 | rss | sorry people I found it |
| 17:11.14 | ke6isf | megabit: Couldn't help you then. I won't touch Sid. |
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| 17:11.32 | rss | Who is Sid?? ;) |
| 17:11.38 | ke6isf | megabit: Look for a 2.6 kernel. |
| 17:11.39 | dvs | !sid |
| 17:11.39 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
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| 17:11.41 | dvs | ;-) |
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| 17:11.52 | ke6isf | dvs: Damn, I'm slow this morning. =^^= |
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| 17:12.20 | rss | I knew that someone would do that :) |
| 17:12.21 | ircops | *chug* |
| 17:12.24 | azeem | Konky: see bugs.debian.org/321720 |
| 17:12.29 | dvs | ke6isf: Yeah, you're so slow it's the afternoon now. ;-) (At least in the Eastern time zone) |
| 17:12.29 | sunkan_ | I have pinned testing to "650" and when I added the new testing-security repo I noticed that it didn't prefer them over my installed packages. I solved it by pinning them on origin to "660" but I wonder should I pin differently to make i behave better? I was thinking maybe pinning testing/unstable to numbers below 500? |
| 17:12.39 | megabit | ke6isf, Thank you for your time. |
| 17:12.44 | ke6isf | dvs: Well, hey, blame me for being in Pacific. =^^= |
| 17:12.49 | ke6isf | megabit: Sorry I couldn't help. |
| 17:12.52 | azeem | Konky: I think we are in a transitional period here, it might take a while until sarge works fine with grsecurity et al. |
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| 17:13.12 | Konky | what shall i do now ? |
| 17:13.19 | Konky | disable pax for all the daemons? :/ |
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| 17:13.29 | rss | stupid Sony! Hear all ye! I do not recommend Sony Vaio Laptops to anyone! |
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| 17:13.41 | dvs | rss: I could have told you that. |
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| 17:13.54 | rss | dvs, you are aslo slow |
| 17:13.59 | ke6isf | rss: I try and avoid proprietary crap for this very reason. |
| 17:14.04 | nkuttler | rss: that's why you do research before you buy a laptop |
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| 17:14.29 | rss | nkuttler, please don't get me started yet again(I did |
| 17:14.36 | rss | not buy that!) |
| 17:14.47 | rss | !enter |
| 17:14.47 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 17:14.51 | azeem | Konky: well, I would recommend to stay with stable for servers |
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| 17:14.58 | ke6isf | !tell rss -about msg the bot |
| 17:14.59 | nkuttler | rss: ok, don't worry, i'm happy with my notebook |
| 17:15.00 | Konky | bit late ^^ |
| 17:15.16 | azeem | Konky: but in this case, better disable grsecurity for now and monitor things closely |
| 17:15.19 | rss | It was meant to be a joke! |
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| 17:15.43 | ysothoth | xsdg: Nevar! |
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| 17:15.54 | ke6isf | rss: My humor circuitry doesn't engage until such time that I have finished my 2nd or 3rd cup of coffee. Since I only got five hours of sleep ,it might not even happen. =^^= |
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| 17:16.17 | ke6isf | xsdg: There's a such thing as too much coffee? |
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| 17:16.41 | Anthro | Does anyone know if LVM is endian-specific? |
| 17:16.41 | xsdg | ke6isf: well... I dislike coffee in the first place, so... |
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| 17:17.36 | dogmeat | how do i filter out the "left" "join" messages. it's annoying! i use mIRC |
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| 17:17.51 | ke6isf | !windowssmite dogmeat |
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| 17:18.02 | ke6isf | ...you'd think there was a windowssmite. |
| 17:18.04 | rss | dogmeat: switch over to a less annoying irc client |
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| 17:18.18 | rss | dogmeatm are you kidding? |
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| 17:18.54 | rss | dogmeat, switch over to xchat |
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| 17:19.00 | shingouz | dogmeat: please do not say you are running it on wine |
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| 17:19.13 | ke6isf | dogmeat: You do realize that you're ina channel whose purpose in life is supporting a Linux distro, yesno? I don't think you're going to get a lot of help for a Windows application. |
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| 17:19.24 | stew | dogmeat: try /ignore #channel JOINS PARTS QUITS |
| 17:19.26 | dogmeat | shingouz: name of my computer is beer |
| 17:19.47 | shingouz | dogmeat: so? |
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| 17:19.51 | ke6isf | shingouz: He's not running it on W(h)ine. |
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| 17:20.12 | dogmeat | ke6isf: my server runs debian |
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| 17:20.19 | rss | !mirc |
| 17:20.19 | dpkg | it has been said that mirc is http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/mirc/exploit.html |
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| 17:21.31 | ke6isf | rss: And they say the first step to overcoming your issues is to admit you have them. =^_^= |
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| 17:22.06 | rss | dogmeat, mirc is too dangerous for your computer's health and so is the operating system that you are using |
| 17:22.26 | rss | ke6isf, what issues? |
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| 17:22.28 | shingouz | winblowze is not an operating system, it is a virus |
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| 17:22.40 | rss | !windows |
| 17:22.41 | dpkg | hmm... windows is PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows they don't work. |
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| 17:22.42 | ke6isf | rss: Well, you just confessed you're a !junkie.... |
| 17:22.48 | elirips | anyone knows what happened to nerim.net, where this nice mplayer repository was? i only get 'Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, .. file not found..' |
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| 17:23.10 | ducbian | they changed the name of the packages from testing / stable to sid / sarge |
| 17:23.17 | nkuttler | elirips: file not found... isn't that clear? |
| 17:23.25 | rss | check in apt-get.org again |
| 17:23.27 | nkuttler | elirips: ftp into the server and find what you need |
| 17:23.42 | elirips | ducbian: thanks. |
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| 17:23.50 | ducbian | except with the right names |
| 17:23.58 | ducbian | sid is unstable. |
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| 17:24.23 | rss | poor sid, I pity him |
| 17:24.24 | elirips | nkuttler: i thought it makes no difference for apt if using stable/sarge.. now i know it. |
| 17:24.39 | Konky | hmm a stupid question^^ when i apt-get source then there is a debian subdir and a rules file in there. how can i make the package so it "uses" these rules ? |
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| 17:25.03 | tarzeau | Konky: debuild ? |
| 17:25.08 | elirips | there are quite many updates available for kde in sarge right now.. what happened? |
| 17:25.13 | stew | Konky: /msg dpkg source |
| 17:25.18 | nkuttler | elirips: it should not, obviouls the server is not configured properly |
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| 17:25.38 | cheal | elirips: security issues? |
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| 17:25.47 | stew | elirips: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/debian-security-announce-2005/msg00205.html |
| 17:25.48 | elirips | nkuttler: well, i changed my line from stable to sarge, now it's working again. |
| 17:26.01 | elirips | stew: thanks. |
| 17:26.05 | Konky | ah |
| 17:26.06 | Konky | ty |
| 17:26.11 | nkuttler | elirips: security.debian.org, there's a mailing list to subscribe to |
| 17:26.15 | rss | elirips: congratulations |
| 17:26.16 | Anthro | Does anyone know when I should expect the 2.6.13 kernel to be packaged? |
| 17:26.48 | Cope | ~siyh |
| 17:26.51 | apt | well, siyh is Sooner If You Help, or see "wir" and "rsn" |
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| 17:27.04 | cheal | Anthro: in some time. read debian-kernel if you want better estimation |
| 17:27.04 | delysid | i would like to know why all of a sudden after updating testing i have oss instead of alsa |
| 17:27.20 | Anthro | Cope: What help is needed? I know very little about Debian's kernel packaging process. |
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| 17:27.35 | Cope | Anthro: sorry - just a flippant answer. |
| 17:27.40 | Philosophy | Hello |
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| 17:27.56 | xixor | hello everybody |
| 17:27.57 | cheal | Anthro: work on d-i adaptation to devfs removal, most importantly |
| 17:28.00 | nkuttler | delysid: what are you talking about? kernel modules? |
| 17:28.04 | rss | I don't understand Philosophy |
| 17:28.22 | Philosophy | Ohh really..? |
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| 17:28.49 | delysid | nksen> well, i have the alsa modules loaded for my card but all the mixers show me running oss...this is even the case under root |
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| 17:28.58 | rss | autocomplete feature of my irc client tempted me to to type it |
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| 17:29.30 | petykoo | hi |
| 17:29.33 | Philosophy | Hello |
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| 17:30.07 | badb0y | Is it worth using debian testing yet people? |
| 17:30.24 | nkuttler | badb0y: why do you ask? |
| 17:30.36 | shingouz | badb0y: that is a question you only can answer |
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| 17:30.43 | badb0y | nkuttler: because i think sarge is a bit old |
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| 17:30.46 | badb0y | oh |
| 17:30.48 | rss | Vaiostat-source is taking very long time to come... i'll ask some great questions and answer some great answers. |
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| 17:30.58 | delysid | well, things like gnome volume control, but alsamixer seems to work |
| 17:31.03 | rss | badb0y, just wait till etch. |
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| 17:31.16 | shingouz | a bit old... dammit ... released June 6th this year and it is already "old".... |
| 17:31.18 | badb0y | ok, thx :) |
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| 17:31.20 | nkuttler | delysid: alsa has an oss emulation layer |
| 17:31.28 | EdgEy | what is etch |
| 17:31.32 | EdgEy | next release name? |
| 17:31.33 | shingouz | !etch |
| 17:31.33 | delysid | maybe i have to configure gnome volume control to control alsa? |
| 17:31.33 | dpkg | [etch] the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 17:31.34 | Anthro | cheal: Yeah, looks like initrd problems. Damn. I really need 2.6.13 and I really don't feel like messing with initrd on my own. |
| 17:31.35 | rss | badb0y, you will definitely see it before we perish |
| 17:31.37 | bartden | hi, how can i apply a .diff file to an other file |
| 17:31.40 | EdgEy | hehe thanks |
| 17:31.46 | shingouz | bartden: man patch |
| 17:31.53 | nkuttler | delysid: why do you care if it uses alsa or the emulation? |
| 17:31.54 | Anthro | cheal: Is devfs gone from 2.6.13 or just deprecated? |
| 17:32.08 | badb0y | rss, lol |
| 17:32.10 | stew | Anthro: deprecated in 2.6.12 and gone in 2.6.13 |
| 17:32.20 | Anthro | stew: Replaced by sysfs and udev? |
| 17:32.26 | stew | yes |
| 17:32.35 | rss | how about using alsa-oss package? |
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| 17:32.47 | Anthro | stew: Thanks |
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| 17:32.56 | cheal | Anthro: it's kind of "technically" deprecated in 2.6.13 |
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| 17:33.05 | delysid | nksen> i have a lot more audio controls under alsa......why would gnome volume controls not list the alsa controls for audio anymore? |
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| 17:33.16 | nkuttler | delysid: you talking to me? |
| 17:33.47 | delysid | yeah, sorry....trying to type and hold my baby at the same time |
| 17:33.48 | shingouz | nkuttler: do you drive a cab? |
| 17:33.50 | shingouz | ;) |
| 17:34.03 | nkuttler | shingouz: not until i finish my studies :) |
| 17:34.26 | rss | after downloading a kernel source deb package... how is it built? |
| 17:34.39 | shingouz | !tell rss about k-p |
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| 17:34.47 | shingouz | !tell rss about kp |
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| 17:34.57 | delysid | well, now i have two hands....i will just use alsamixer |
| 17:34.59 | nkuttler | rss: dpkg-buildpackage? but kp is better |
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| 17:37.26 | rss | please do apt-cache show vaiostat-source ... how to compile it with make-kpkg? |
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| 17:37.43 | roby | the otherosfs/cdrecord package, does it support dvd creation? or ist there another package for that? I remember there being this cdrecord tool that could do both CDs and DVDs? |
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| 17:37.46 | theD3viL | how to set up xmms to use iso8895-2 ? |
| 17:38.13 | stew | rss: install it and read /usr/share/doc/viostat-source/* |
| 17:38.39 | rss | ok |
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| 17:39.19 | xixor | Hey everyone, is it safe for a sid dist-upgrade right now? |
| 17:39.35 | ke6isf | !iyhtays xixor |
| 17:39.36 | dpkg | xixor: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 17:39.49 | xixor | ha ha |
| 17:39.55 | delysid | i think i may have figured out my problem |
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| 17:40.06 | xixor | ke6isf, : that is awesome.. thanks |
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| 17:41.17 | rss | ke6isf, how on the earth do you remember that acronym!? |
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| 17:41.42 | ke6isf | rss: They kind of get stuck in my head. It's the same way I remember FedEx station IDs. |
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| 17:41.59 | nkuttler | rss: do you really consider it hard to remember? |
| 17:42.04 | rss | oh it is a mnemonic |
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| 17:42.10 | rss | no |
| 17:42.11 | nkuttler | !win rss |
| 17:42.12 | dpkg | Congratulations, rss! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 17:42.14 | kahelas | Hello. I've been working on this problem for a few days now, and I have realized that this is beyond my Linux knowledge. I am hoping someone can help me here. Basically I am finding that root does not have permission to do anything in /etc/texmf. find, ls -l, touch etc... do not work. Does anyone know what went wrong and how to fix it? |
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| 17:42.23 | talky | is there some time out settings for modem based dialing? |
| 17:42.32 | rss | yay! lifetime supply of frisbees!!! |
| 17:42.33 | talky | how can we alter them |
| 17:42.36 | rss | !thanks |
| 17:42.36 | dpkg | rss: no problem d00d |
| 17:43.07 | stew | kahelas: read only filesystem? does lsattr /etc/texmf show anything other than -------------? |
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| 17:44.11 | kahelas | stew: I'm getting for a few of the enteries something like: ----------------- /etc/texmf/cyrplain However, others I'm getting "Permission denied" |
| 17:44.25 | rss | does not dpkg -L package ... show all the contents and it paths of a package? |
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| 17:44.56 | stew | rss: it does, except it doens't include files that are generated by postinst or debconf |
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| 17:45.30 | stew | talky: that would be an "S" setting that you set with an at command. google for at command set. |
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| 17:45.56 | talky | thnx stew |
| 17:46.02 | stew | kahelas: are you positive that you are root? |
| 17:46.07 | talky | i am just looking at the At command |
| 17:46.22 | talky | whats the mo carrier msgs? |
| 17:46.26 | talky | no* |
| 17:46.31 | kahelas | stew: yes. I'm positive. whoami gives me "root" |
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| 17:46.36 | talky | what does it mean? |
| 17:46.39 | darkness1 | Say is it true what my friend says that bsd is the best? |
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| 17:46.53 | stew | darkness1: troll elsewhere |
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| 17:47.07 | ke6isf | talky: "NO CARRIER" means exactly that. The data carrier has dropped and failed to exist. |
| 17:47.22 | stew | talky: it means "I didn't hear another modem to talk to" |
| 17:47.23 | ke6isf | !troll darkness1 |
| 17:47.46 | talky | aah ic |
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| 17:48.31 | darkness1 | I was asking a real question. |
| 17:48.45 | stew | !best |
| 17:48.45 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
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| 17:49.05 | ke6isf | darkness1: Doesn't look like you were asking for Debian help to me. |
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| 17:49.35 | dogmeat | !pastebin |
| 17:49.35 | dpkg | pastebin is probably a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca |
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| 17:49.53 | xixor | Hey everyone. make dist isn't working on my system for some reason. I get errors of: automake: Makefile.am: AM_GNU_GETTEXT in `configure.in' but `ALL_LINGUAS' not defined. and Makefile.am:6: AM_GNU_GETTEXT in `configure.in' but `po' not in SUBDIRS. Anyone else seen something like this? |
| 17:49.54 | Kernel-Kris | i believe BSD is the best for webservers.......as the results show......... |
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| 17:50.07 | TheCreeep | hello. why do i "get E: Couldn't find package java-package" when trying to install java-package? |
| 17:50.16 | dentista | op me |
| 17:50.22 | stew | talky: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 17:50.24 | stew | err |
| 17:50.26 | stew | TheCreeep: ^^^ |
| 17:50.29 | netphreak | can i use debian-31r0a-amd64-binary-1.iso for x86 too ? |
| 17:50.31 | ke6isf | !tell TheCreeep -about java |
| 17:50.32 | dentista | stew: shut up |
| 17:50.38 | ke6isf | dentista: Yeah, right. |
| 17:50.54 | dentista | ke83ákedik9, shut up too |
| 17:50.55 | TheCreeep | right, stupid question... |
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| 17:51.17 | ke6isf | !ops dentista is smarting off to the channel... |
| 17:51.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: dentista is smarting off to the channel... |
| 17:51.22 | cheal | netphreak: no |
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| 17:51.57 | netphreak | is there debian release tat support x86_64 ? |
| 17:51.57 | Sylwae | hello all |
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| 17:52.05 | netphreak | that* |
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| 17:52.28 | Sylwae | how can i login automaticly on a user with xdm ? |
| 17:52.30 | cheal | netphreak: uh...when I said no I meant no for 486, 586, etc. |
| 17:52.34 | Kernel-Kris | darkness1, are you still there? |
| 17:52.46 | cheal | netphreak: of course it should work for amd64/em64t |
| 17:52.55 | mentor | dentist: when you have something useful to say do tell us |
| 17:53.24 | netphreak | well, im asking is there any release that support both, amd64 and x86 |
| 17:53.31 | netphreak | i'm* |
| 17:53.47 | cheal | netphreak: i386 does |
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| 17:54.02 | drc | you mean run it in 32-bit mode? |
| 17:54.17 | EdgEy | amd64 can run 32bit code, x86 can't run 64bit |
| 17:54.18 | EdgEy | ;p |
| 17:54.21 | netphreak | drc, yes |
| 17:54.29 | drc | yes EdgEy |
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| 17:55.24 | netphreak | so cheal is wrong then? |
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| 17:56.04 | harleyg | heyhey |
| 17:56.04 | ctp | hi folks. anyone here can say me if there were critical bugs in unstable for productive employment last weeks/months? i have to install 32 machines next week. i never give suse, fedora, mandrake & co a chance anymore. so i think between debian and gentoo. i have experiences with both but not in productive employment. would you recommend unstable for these workstations. they're for j2ee development. |
| 17:56.24 | harleyg | can gcc compile ncurses files.... or what compiler does |
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| 17:56.41 | ke6isf | ctp: I wouldn't recommend unstable for production environments. iyhtays. |
| 17:56.55 | netphreak | i should download debian-31r0a-amd64-binary-1.iso then. |
| 17:57.07 | netphreak | it will work on x86 too |
| 17:57.12 | netphreak | right? |
| 17:57.25 | cheal | ctp: #debian will never recommend you unstable |
| 17:57.33 | thingfish | boy really |
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| 17:57.42 | Dewi | how can I configure acpi in debian? |
| 17:57.49 | thingfish | sarge, on the other hand, is great for a production environment. |
| 17:57.50 | cheal | netphreak: only on [some] 64 bits CPUs |
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| 17:58.08 | Sylwae | how can i login automatically on a user with xdm ? |
| 17:58.11 | drc | netphreak: it depends on the kernel you install |
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| 17:58.23 | nkuttler | Dewi: try /usr/share/doc/acpi* |
| 17:58.34 | setog3 | HI , I have no sound in flashplayer with firefox, I think it's about a misconfigured option for the sound output , I don't remember wich packet can provide me the way to reconfigure with dpkg-reconfigure ! |
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| 17:59.47 | ctp | cheal: ok, so i must work with backports. most of the packages i need arent provided by stable/testing. |
| 17:59.49 | kahelas | so I take it that no one has any idea how to fix my problem with root permissions in /etc/texmf ? |
| 17:59.49 | netphreak | ok, i have amd64 on my pc and intel pentium 2 on the other. I need i debian release that will work on both |
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| 18:00.22 | crashbg | guys, what was the command to view which user is doing something on a particular file? |
| 18:00.22 | EdgEy | netphreak |
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| 18:00.32 | cipherz | hello, anyone have experience with swraid and the new sarge installer ? |
| 18:00.33 | EdgEy | get the 386/x86 one |
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| 18:00.41 | cipherz | getting some funny problems, think it might be because of devfs.. |
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| 18:00.57 | EdgEy | not sure why you can't put 64 on one and x86 on the other, but yeah |
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| 18:01.41 | charolastra | are there ati drivers in apt? searching for "ati" is quite excessive ;) |
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| 18:01.53 | quist | Is there currently a problem with the gome packages in unstable ? |
| 18:01.53 | cipherz | charolastra: yup fglx is there |
| 18:02.03 | quist | gnome |
| 18:02.15 | quist | I can't perform an install... |
| 18:02.16 | tonsofpcs | kde |
| 18:02.28 | cheal | ctp: "most of the packages" you need?? you must need a ton of packages |
| 18:02.34 | netphreak | EdgEy, yes but 386/x86 will work as 32 bit on amd64 |
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| 18:02.45 | quist | apt-get install gnome fails |
| 18:02.47 | charolastra | cipherz: thanks |
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| 18:02.54 | netphreak | i need x86+64 release |
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| 18:03.02 | netphreak | x86_64* |
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| 18:03.23 | cheal | !tell quist about bts |
| 18:03.31 | quist | bts ? |
| 18:03.41 | cheal | quist: the bot should have told you about it |
| 18:03.42 | Q-FUNK | anybody who's using Debian on Mac/PPC and who has ALSA problems, please contribute data to this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.net/?PowerpcSoundcards |
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| 18:04.09 | quist | hmm. the bot scrolled off my xchat screen |
| 18:04.18 | cheal | quist: then /msg dpkg bts |
| 18:04.22 | quist | thanks! |
| 18:04.28 | quist | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.31 | saloxin | cipherz: yup |
| 18:05.07 | Konky | someone an idea how to make exim and popa3d work together ? |
| 18:05.29 | Konky | popa3d checks /var/mail/ but exim ignores that |
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| 18:07.09 | nkuttler | Konky: configure your popd to look there? |
| 18:07.44 | danieldg | Konky: where does exim deliver the mail to? |
| 18:08.01 | darkness1 | I hate being called a troll. All i was asking as a woody/sarge fan is does bsd have more to offer? |
| 18:08.07 | Konky | popa3d is not configurable ^^ |
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| 18:08.25 | harleyg | when using the example file: http://www.paulgriffiths.net/program/c/curhell2src.html, i get http://pastebin.com/366492 |
| 18:08.26 | nkuttler | Konky: switchh |
| 18:08.28 | Konky | /etc/exim4/conf.d/transport/30_exim4-config_mail_spool << this file lists /var/mail/*local_part |
| 18:08.29 | nkuttler | gah |
| 18:08.37 | Konky | switchh ? |
| 18:08.43 | danieldg | exim is - it can deliver to /var/mail/* |
| 18:08.49 | cheal | darkness1: why don't you try it? |
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| 18:09.15 | darkness1 | cheal: i have a bsd shell account. |
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| 18:10.37 | nkuttler | Konky: 1. configure exim to work with your popd or 2. use other popd |
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| 18:11.10 | Konky | exim does not seem to store the mail correctly, but what popd is simple to install ? i just wanna host 1 tiny domain |
| 18:11.15 | crashbg | how can i view if someone is using some file? i forgot the command :( |
| 18:12.09 | RhinozAFK | is apache2 part of standard install now? |
| 18:12.09 | chops | crashbg: lsof |
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| 18:12.09 | cheal | RhinozAFK: no |
| 18:12.10 | cipherz | saloxin: I found a link that explains it but thanks :) |
| 18:12.10 | crashbg | thanks RhinozAFK :) |
| 18:12.11 | BusMaster | i am using sarge and trying to use dmix..what oputput plugin do i set in xmms output plugins? |
| 18:12.11 | john | crashbg: ps -u username |
| 18:12.12 | john | i think |
| 18:12.18 | RhinozAFK | crash I didn't help you hehe |
| 18:12.21 | Konky | ooh |
| 18:12.27 | Konky | exim requires the homedir to exist! |
| 18:12.28 | Konky | doh |
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| 18:15.20 | paxed | any ideas what could be wrong when x.org won't start with nvidia and glx? (nv+glx works, nvidia w/o glx works) |
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| 18:18.25 | cheal | paxed: perhaps the X log would know |
| 18:18.42 | paxed | ha. |
| 18:19.07 | paxed | that log is useless. |
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| 18:21.32 | roby | In /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.DVD.Debian it says that I should re-compile cdrtools to have dvd write support in cdrecord, does this mean i should un-install cdrecord first? |
| 18:21.40 | Sylwae | option autologin exists with XDM ? |
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| 18:21.59 | bob2 | roby: dvdrecord is also in Debian |
| 18:22.10 | bob2 | so is growisofs, which I gather is the prefered command line cd burning app |
| 18:22.14 | bob2 | Sylwae: no, that would be silly |
| 18:22.23 | bob2 | xdm is a simple and secure login manage |
| 18:22.24 | roby | bob2: but will xcdroast make use of it? |
| 18:22.30 | Sylwae | bob2, why ? |
| 18:22.50 | bob2 | roby: I'd be pretty surprised if xcdroast didn't Just Work with the version of things in Debian |
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| 18:22.59 | bob2 | ie it shouldn't depend on you recompiling cdrtools |
| 18:23.05 | roby | ok |
| 18:23.08 | roby | let me tr burning a dvd here |
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| 18:23.30 | bob2 | tho, I just use nautilus to burn cds, it magically worked |
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| 18:23.46 | bob2 | Sylwae: because autologin is silly, especially in places using xdm |
| 18:24.11 | RhinozAFK | right now my server says x-httpd-php download can anyone give me an idea where to start to fix this I have php4 installed |
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| 18:24.25 | bob2 | be more specific |
| 18:24.30 | bob2 | e.g. what verion of apache? |
| 18:24.35 | bob2 | did you read the documentation? |
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| 18:24.57 | Sylwae | bob2, i want to put my pc on a tv |
| 18:25.01 | Dewi | bob2: autologin doesn't seem all *that* silly. x-windows is fairly silly to begin with. |
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| 18:25.19 | bob2 | Sylwae: then xdm is clearly not for you |
| 18:25.19 | Sylwae | bob2, without keyboard ... how can i do to login ??? |
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| 18:25.28 | bob2 | Dewi: if you say so |
| 18:25.46 | bob2 | Sylwae: you really found *nothing* on google for "Debian X autologin"? |
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| 18:26.04 | bob2 | Sylwae: the 4rd hit explains how to do it for mythv, no less |
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| 18:26.15 | bob2 | er, 3rd |
| 18:26.17 | bob2 | so does the 4th |
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| 18:28.10 | Sylwae | bob2, thanks, it appears use an other , gdm or other ... |
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| 18:29.20 | bob2 | Sylwae: it's pretty easy to get going with gdm, I gather |
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| 18:29.38 | _soto_ | . |
| 18:29.51 | _soto_ | anyone in hre? |
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| 18:30.01 | _soto_ | here |
| 18:30.02 | jason^ | nope |
| 18:30.08 | _soto_ | duh |
| 18:30.09 | jason^ | nobody at all |
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| 18:30.17 | Dewi | "Irssi: #debian: Total of 664 nicks" |
| 18:30.18 | Dewi | hmmmm. |
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| 18:30.57 | _soto_ | Can anyone help me configuring the sound over debian? |
| 18:31.24 | ke6isf | !ask |
| 18:31.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:31.33 | paxed | any ideas what could be wrong when x.org won't start with nvidia and glx? (nv+glx works, nvidia w/o glx works) |
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| 18:32.44 | _soto_ | ok here it goes.when i log in as root,my sound works fine,but now i have gdm installed(xdm b4)and can log in as root anymore.then the sound doesn´t work |
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| 18:33.05 | Mask | _soto_, it sounds like normal users don't have permission to write to /dev/dsp |
| 18:33.06 | LSorensen | paxed: works fine here and at work |
| 18:33.08 | bob2 | _soto_: so add your user to the audio group |
| 18:33.10 | us | Where channel is best for distribution discussion and choices? |
| 18:33.19 | bob2 | #linpeople or something |
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| 18:33.25 | bob2 | bear in mind everyone has their own agenda |
| 18:33.36 | DoppelGanger | mine is to take over the world |
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| 18:33.41 | us | What channel, that is. Excuse me. |
| 18:33.45 | cheal | paxed: no. we won't help you without your X log |
| 18:33.56 | bob2 | us: #linpeople, #nothere |
| 18:33.57 | LSorensen | paxed: did you use the debian packaes to install the nvidia driver? |
| 18:33.58 | _soto_ | i have got this line on /etc/audio audio:x:29: |
| 18:34.12 | _soto_ | what should i write then? |
| 18:34.12 | LSorensen | _soto_: adduser username audio |
| 18:34.24 | LSorensen | social_study_bot: on next login the user will have sound working too |
| 18:34.24 | us | thanks bob2 |
| 18:34.29 | LSorensen | er _soto_ |
| 18:34.35 | DoppelGanger | _soto_: man gpasswd or usermod |
| 18:34.44 | kasper | i've got the hostap-modules, and utils installed, when i insert my pcmcia card hostap_cs and hostap load. but not hostap_crypt_wep and it won't connect to ANY Access Point, although kismet works w/ hostap installed. any ideas? |
| 18:34.55 | _soto_ | ok i will try lsorensen |
| 18:34.59 | _soto_ | brb |
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| 18:36.18 | paxed | cheal: http://bilious.homelinux.org/~paxed/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:37.06 | paxed | LSorensen: yes |
| 18:37.18 | cheal | paxed: how does it not start? |
| 18:37.26 | LSorensen | paxed: not sure. it has worked fine for me so far |
| 18:37.46 | LSorensen | paxed: anyting interesting error wise in the Xorg.0.log? |
| 18:38.17 | paxed | cheal: i think it flashes the nvidia logo, but then returns back to the tty |
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| 18:38.39 | paxed | LSorensen: no, afaics |
| 18:38.51 | _soto_ | should i do something else in order to make the sound works lsorensen?i already did this command:adduser user audio |
| 18:38.57 | cheal | paxed: does it crash? anything in /var/log/messages ? |
| 18:38.59 | LSorensen | paxed: check the log. it usually says why it didn't start |
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| 18:39.30 | LSorensen | paxed: where user is the name of your normal user. then log out and back in as the user and then sound should work for that user (may have to play with mixer to set volme and such |
| 18:40.10 | LSorensen | paxed: all i ever do is add snd-blah to /etc/modules, and modprobe snd-blah and adduser normalusers audio and things work. where lah is sound chip specific |
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| 18:40.28 | LSorensen | pex: or that wa for soto |
| 18:40.31 | paxed | LSorensen: wrong nick. |
| 18:40.32 | takatumi | kasper: do you have hostap_crypt_wep in /etc/modules? |
| 18:40.49 | paxed | cheal: nothing in there. |
| 18:40.58 | kasper | takatumi: let me check |
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| 18:41.38 | petekaz | could someone help explain to me the rules that APT uses when a distribution is pinned? I'm reading apt_preferences which is pretty clear, but clearly I am not understanding something. |
| 18:41.42 | iskywalker | hi! howcan i install kppp_3.3.2-5_x86.deb |
| 18:41.45 | petekaz | http://pastebin.com/366526 |
| 18:41.54 | iskywalker | just atp-get install kppp_3.3.2-5_x86.deb ? |
| 18:42.33 | iskywalker | #ahh kppp_3.3.2-5_i386.deb |
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| 18:42.44 | cheal | iskywalker: dpkg -i foo.deb |
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| 18:43.03 | takatumi | or just apt-get install kpp |
| 18:43.04 | cheal | paxed: maybe ask #nvidia, or try debugging X |
| 18:43.05 | takatumi | p |
| 18:43.18 | kRASS | Hello is it possibel to remove all words from a file that has < at the begining of the word and > at the end?.. How can this be done thrue sed.. I cant find out how |
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| 18:43.29 | kasper | takatumi: nope. not in /etc/modules, and theres also no hostap_cs or hostap in there either. |
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| 18:44.30 | iskywalker | cheal: thx |
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| 18:45.25 | bob2 | kRASS: not trivially |
| 18:45.29 | kasper | takatumi: do i need to all them all to /etc/modules? |
| 18:45.31 | nkuttler | kRASS: s/<[^>]*?>//g ? i think that would do it in perl, info sed |
| 18:45.33 | bob2 | kRASS: especially if you have to take into account word wrapping |
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| 18:46.08 | kRASS | nkuttler: sed s/<[^>]*?>//g test.txt > new.txt ? |
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| 18:46.18 | nkuttler | kRASS: i said that's perl |
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| 18:46.33 | nkuttler | kRASS: cat file | perl -pe 'regexp' > new.txt |
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| 18:46.55 | kRASS | nkuttler: sorry regexp? |
| 18:47.12 | nkuttler | kRASS: hm, why do you want to do it? |
| 18:47.25 | da_bon_bon | hi all |
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| 18:47.43 | da_bon_bon | is there any plugin so that i can view openoffice documents in mozilla ? |
| 18:47.49 | kRASS | nkuttler: automatic progress where i want to remove some words from a file thats gonna be updated every 5minutes. What is 'regexp' ? |
| 18:48.00 | nkuttler | kRASS: google "regular expressions", look into perl or sed specifically |
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| 18:48.07 | takatumi | kasper: I have those there, works here. |
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| 18:48.37 | nkuttler | kRASS: what is your motivation to do it? maybe you should buy some good programming book. |
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| 18:48.55 | kasper | takatumi: i'll add them (all 3?) thanks!! |
| 18:49.04 | nkuttler | kRASS: the s/foo/bar/ thing is called a regexp |
| 18:49.06 | kRASS | nkuttler: It must be possibel thrue sed without a perl script. Somehow... Motivation is not big |
| 18:49.09 | Area-51 | i accidentally hit ctrl+z and irssi went into the background... how do i get it back? |
| 18:49.18 | nkuttler | kRASS: so you're being lazy? |
| 18:49.21 | da_bon_bon | Area-51: you terminated it. |
| 18:49.25 | nkuttler | kRASS: is that your homework or something? |
| 18:49.29 | Area-51 | da_bon_bon: oh, heh, oops |
| 18:49.29 | kRASS | nkuttler: no but this is just a small script. |
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| 18:49.31 | bob2 | Area-51: %1 |
| 18:49.36 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: no, he/she did not |
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| 18:49.46 | nkuttler | kRASS: if you want to do it in sed, learn sed |
| 18:49.55 | bob2 | Area-51: (%N returns the N'th job to the foreground; 'jobs' shows you all the current jobs) |
| 18:50.05 | kRASS | nkuttler: just forget it |
| 18:50.13 | da_bon_bon | bob2: ctrl-z doesnt stop or terminate a job ? |
| 18:50.18 | takatumi | kasper: I actually have six hostap related ones there, might not need all of 'em though. :) |
| 18:50.20 | nkuttler | !lazy |
| 18:50.20 | dpkg | Well, we don't service lazy people, sorry. |
| 18:50.24 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: no, it puts it in the background |
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| 18:50.33 | kRASS | nkuttler: or wait |
| 18:50.33 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: ctrl-c by deffault terminates things |
| 18:50.35 | zerve_the_death | lol |
| 18:50.36 | bob2 | tho apps can ignore i |
| 18:50.37 | Area-51 | bob2: thanks |
| 18:50.38 | bob2 | t |
| 18:50.45 | da_bon_bon | bob2: ok.. keep learning things :( |
| 18:50.47 | kRASS | nkuttler: i can just remove the words. Can i cut a specified word out of the file? |
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| 18:51.01 | abrotman | with sed |
| 18:51.04 | nkuttler | kRASS: google sed tutorial |
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| 18:51.17 | abrotman | the bot knows some |
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| 18:51.35 | nkuttler | !tell kRASS about sed |
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| 18:51.49 | abrotman | sed cheats? |
| 18:51.54 | nkuttler | cheats? |
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| 18:52.03 | f0rt3hm3h | does someone know what is the function i have to enable in menuconfig NOT to get this error : pivot_root: "No such file or directory", "/sbin/init:432:cannot open dev/console: No such file" ? |
| 18:52.06 | abrotman | !sed cheats |
| 18:52.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, sed cheats is see http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line52.txt |
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| 18:52.18 | deter | hi |
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| 18:52.29 | deter | anyone got eaccelarator running ? |
| 18:52.42 | deter | i have severe problems compiling it |
| 18:52.51 | bob2 | f0rt3hm3h: do you really need to compile your kernel? |
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| 18:53.12 | deter | i have tried the following command : |
| 18:53.13 | deter | ./configure --enable-eaccelerator=shared --with-php-config=$PHP_PREFIX/bin/php-config |
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| 18:53.24 | f0rt3hm3h | bob2: yeah... =( |
| 18:53.28 | bob2 | f0rt3hm3h: for? |
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| 18:53.32 | Dewi | for some reason gnome now stops responding whenever I click "log out" under the vnc Xserver. |
| 18:53.40 | deter | result is : -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory |
| 18:53.46 | deter | what do i do wrong ? |
| 18:53.49 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: er, that's pretty clear |
| 18:53.50 | bob2 | deter: |
| 18:53.54 | deter | yes |
| 18:53.55 | bob2 | the file doesn't exist |
| 18:53.58 | abrotman | f0rt3hm3h: why? |
| 18:53.59 | f0rt3hm3h | bob2: becouse when i download the kernel image from debian.org i get the same error |
| 18:54.13 | hyardley | any substitute for libdvdcss? xine complains |
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| 18:54.15 | abrotman | you used apt-get ? |
| 18:54.22 | abrotman | libdvdread .. for some dvds |
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| 18:54.24 | deter | bob2 : i followed the instructions for downloading the source |
| 18:54.25 | bob2 | f0rt3hm3h: did you tell your bootloader to use the initrd? |
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| 18:54.33 | Dewi | is there a way to run X from a server with no monitor... which doesn't suck? |
| 18:54.34 | bob2 | deter: then they're wrong, or you didn't follow them correctly |
| 18:54.35 | deter | bob2 : how do i get further on |
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| 18:54.40 | hyardley | abrotman: tks |
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| 18:54.45 | deter | bob2 ... pls look here : |
| 18:54.46 | bob2 | deter: that error means exactly what it says: 'configure' does not exist |
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| 18:54.58 | deter | hmmm.... |
| 18:55.02 | robin_sz | so .. is there a nice debian pacage for monitoring servers, reporting if they crap themselves etc? |
| 18:55.09 | deter | an older version then |
| 18:55.13 | deter | one second pls |
| 18:55.24 | bob2 | robin_sz: nagios, aiui |
| 18:55.25 | f0rt3hm3h | bob2:yeah |
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| 18:55.34 | robin_sz | ta |
| 18:55.36 | bob2 | Dewi: ssh in? |
| 18:56.01 | kRASS | sed -e '/debug/d' < log --- Hmm that delete all the lines where debug is in. But how do i just remove the word debug and not the whole line where debug is in |
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| 18:56.17 | deter | bob2 : is there a problem installing a php5 debian package for php 4 ? |
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| 18:56.31 | nkuttler | kRASS: try sed -e 's/debug//g' |
| 18:56.39 | bob2 | deter: I don't know what that question means |
| 18:56.40 | Dewi | bob2: I'd like to be able to start an X application, and have it remain running, accessible from other networked machines. |
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| 18:56.59 | Dewi | bob2: vnc's x server was working sort of okay for this, but it just isn't stable |
| 18:57.00 | bob2 | Dewi: apt-cache show xmove |
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| 18:57.10 | pipeline | Dewi: xmove |
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| 18:57.31 | emRick | OT: anyone with PalmOS on a Windows's partition, please msg me (where is plugin directory)? |
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| 18:57.56 | _Soto_ | . |
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| 18:58.06 | rudenstam | anyone that could help me with an ADSL thingy.. I just changed ISP and ADSL modem and now I want to start using the new one.. but my computers DHCP still gets an ip from the old ISP.. can I controll this myself ? |
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| 18:58.56 | empty | rudenstam, that means they have not repointed your line yet |
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| 18:59.10 | valdyn | rudenstam: run pppoe-discover and check which access concentrators you really have |
| 18:59.12 | Dewi | bob2 / pipeline : is xmove actually usable these days? last time I tried it, it was very basic stuff |
| 18:59.21 | prjktdtnt | how do I reconfigure my display settings (via the DPKG origional preconfigure style) |
| 18:59.24 | bob2 | Dewi: I don't know |
| 18:59.30 | bob2 | Dewi: it sounds like screen for me |
| 18:59.38 | bob2 | prjktdtnt: did you screw your X config manually? |
| 18:59.40 | _Soto_ | anyone can help me with the installation of MPlayer.when i run configur,i get an error message that says:Failed to find a Win32 codecs directory! (default: /usr/local/lib/codecs/) |
| 18:59.41 | _Soto_ | Create it and copy the DLL files there! |
| 18:59.47 | valdyn | rudenstam: im not sure if having 2 on the same line is even possible |
| 18:59.48 | prjktdtnt | bob2: no |
| 18:59.55 | bob2 | prjktdtnt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:00.05 | nkuttler | !tell _Soto_ about mplayer |
| 19:00.06 | bob2 | _Soto_: that's not an error |
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| 19:00.14 | pipeline | Dewi: Well yes, it's very basic stuff. |
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| 19:00.23 | f0rt3hm3h | so bob2 can you help me? |
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| 19:00.36 | _Soto_ | what shoud i do bob? |
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| 19:00.44 | valdyn | !tell _Soto_ -about marillat |
| 19:00.44 | rudenstam | empty: so it's just to wait for the isps to repoint the connection from my old to my new ? |
| 19:00.50 | rudenstam | valdyn: what packet is that part of ? |
| 19:00.51 | bob2 | _Soto_: get mplayer from marillat's repository |
| 19:00.52 | _Soto_ | to install the codecs |
| 19:01.04 | bob2 | f0rt3hm3h: if Debian kerensl aren't booting either, I don't know what is wrong with your system |
| 19:01.05 | _Soto_ | i got it already |
| 19:01.28 | bob2 | _Soto_: so why are you compiling it? |
| 19:01.36 | Dewi | pipeline: it doesn't really solve the problem with X being incredibly slow over LAN, either. |
| 19:01.36 | f0rt3hm3h | bob2: well the one installed with the base system 2.4.27 is booting fine... ={ |
| 19:01.43 | valdyn | rudenstam: oh its called pppoe-discovery, part of 'ppp' |
| 19:01.53 | _Soto_ | i want to learn |
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| 19:02.02 | Dewi | pipeline: I wish I knew why this VNC setup is so unstable |
| 19:02.09 | prjktdtnt | bob2: what would the dpkg-reconfigure be for the origional DHCP (as in how it was done at system install) |
| 19:02.11 | bob2 | _Soto_: you won't learn from thi |
| 19:02.12 | valdyn | Dewi: slow over lan? maybe over wlan. |
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| 19:02.30 | bob2 | prjktdtnt: I don't know what "original DHCP" means |
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| 19:02.35 | Dewi | pipeline: I think gnome relies on "assumptions" that it is running under xfree86 or something |
| 19:02.41 | bob2 | tho my xterm fonts are fucked, so I don't know if you really said DHCP |
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| 19:02.52 | rudenstam | valdyn |
| 19:02.52 | rudenstam | Interface eth0 has MTU of 1000 -- should be 1500. You may have serious connection problems. |
| 19:02.52 | rudenstam | Timeout waiting for PADO packets |
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| 19:03.04 | prjktdtnt | bob2: how it attempts to auto-configure during install |
| 19:03.08 | bob2 | Dewi: it would be running under xfree86, still |
| 19:03.09 | Dewi | valdyn: even tightvnc looking like a horrible jpeg is quite a bit slower than, say, windows remote desktop |
| 19:03.14 | prjktdtnt | bob2: before reboot |
| 19:03.17 | bob2 | prjktdtnt: sorry, you've lost me |
| 19:03.30 | Dewi | bob2: xfree86 draws to VGA. I have no monitor. |
| 19:03.43 | valdyn | Dewi: i can watch dvd in realtime over lan, note sure what you're doing there.. |
| 19:03.47 | azeem | prjktdtnt: you mean the networking setup during install? |
| 19:03.49 | Dewi | unless you mean the xfree86 on the remote machine |
| 19:03.54 | azeem | I don't think you can reconfigure that |
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| 19:04.22 | Dewi | valdyn: you watch DVD... over X-windows... in real time? |
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| 19:04.29 | prjktdtnt | azeem: yes!...there isnt a command to type (or a deb to get) that will allow you to go through the process again? |
| 19:04.29 | Dewi | valdyn: uncompressed, on a LAN? |
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| 19:04.44 | Dewi | valdyn: that's... a heck of a long way above the theoretical limits of 100kbps LAN |
| 19:04.51 | BACbKA | i've upgraded a machine from woody to sarge, and sendmail refuses to work now. When I try to talk to the server via SMTP, when the data is finished, I get smth like 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfj8HJ2MR1021343 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied. /var/spool/mqueue and mqueue-client permissions are rwxr-s--- and rwxrws--- respectively. Tried making the former group writeable, didn't help. Any clue, please? |
| 19:04.53 | azeem | prjktdtnt: maybe there is. I know of none, though |
| 19:04.59 | Dewi | DVD *compressed* approaches the limits of 100mbps LAN |
| 19:05.01 | valdyn | Dewi: who the hell has a 100kbps lan? |
| 19:05.09 | Dewi | mbps I mean |
| 19:05.16 | valdyn | Dewi: 1000mbit lan ) |
| 19:05.28 | Dewi | I still doubt it would be enough |
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| 19:05.44 | deter | anyone using something like eaccelerator ? |
| 19:05.48 | prjktdtnt | bob2: the thing i was looking for was the networking setup that is done during install can that be redone |
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| 19:06.05 | valdyn | !nomachine |
| 19:06.06 | dpkg | it has been said that nomachine is see nx |
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| 19:06.10 | valdyn | !nx |
| 19:06.11 | dpkg | i heard nx is http://www.nomachine.com/ NX terminal server client/server. Like VNC but faster, with security, multi-client. Partially non-free. #nx |
| 19:06.20 | valdyn | Dewi: that is supposedly the fastest solution ^^^ |
| 19:06.33 | prjktdtnt | brb need to restart x |
| 19:06.35 | Dewi | valdyn: yeah, but not available for testing debian |
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| 19:06.52 | secureboot | what's a particularly good tool to capture wireless packets from ONLY my network for wep cracking? I'd use kismet, but i don't see how to only get stuff from my AP. |
| 19:07.12 | nkuttler | BACbKA: try making the spools chown smmta:smmsp |
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| 19:07.47 | Dewi | valdyn: and I'd probably have the same problems I'm having with the vnc X-server, which is that it's currently hanging the entire gnome session if I just click "log out" |
| 19:07.55 | Dewi | not even confirming my log out, just clicking it and everything dies |
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| 19:08.10 | BACbKA | they're already as follows: mqueue is smmta:smmsp, mqueue-client smmsp:smmsp |
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| 19:08.24 | technos | Someone have a clue which raid controller the Abit KN8 (NF4) ships with? |
| 19:08.32 | BACbKA | nkuttler: do you want me to switch the client queue from smmsp to smmta? |
| 19:08.41 | nkuttler | BACbKA: oh right. i was wrong |
| 19:08.49 | BACbKA | nkuttler: ok |
| 19:08.52 | bob2 | technos: a pretend one, I'd think |
| 19:09.01 | bob2 | technos: lspci should tell you for sure |
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| 19:09.13 | nkuttler | BACbKA: drwxrwxrwt for mqueue and drwxrws--- for mqueue-client here, but i didn't configure it (i'd remove sendmail) |
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| 19:09.17 | prjktdtnt | bob2: thanks for the xserver help I can now finally have a decent resolution |
| 19:09.18 | valdyn | Dewi: if you log out then the vnc server quits |
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| 19:09.35 | bob2 | prjktdtnt: there isn't a simple way to rerun the network thing, perhaps try etherconf |
| 19:09.39 | bob2 | or edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:09.41 | Dewi | valdyn: no, all my processes live but nothing responds |
| 19:09.49 | Dewi | valdyn: so I have to slay myself basically |
| 19:09.50 | technos | bob2: Just one of the fakies like the older Abit boards did? That's what I assumed, but I dont have a board here to lspci to know for sure and the boards are too new for Google to return anything meaningful. |
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| 19:10.13 | Dewi | valdyn: back when logout used to "work" it would get to the last 4 processes and then stop |
| 19:10.16 | prjktdtnt | bob2: that's what killed my connection to the internet lasttime...i used etherconf once but was never able to get back to it after the origional configuration |
| 19:10.24 | BACbKA | nkuttler: I'll try doing o+rwxs on mqueue and see if it helps |
| 19:10.47 | bob2 | technos: ah, ok |
| 19:10.48 | kasper | how do i configure my sound. i've downloaded alsa-base and all the alsa stuff but dice |
| 19:10.53 | Dewi | valdyn: I'm running firefox over my LAN uncompressed now, btw. it takes 2-4 seconds to page-down |
| 19:10.56 | bob2 | kasper: ignore all that |
| 19:10.59 | bob2 | kasper: what sound card? |
| 19:11.07 | MOTD_ADMIN | kasper, dont use sound |
| 19:11.08 | nkuttler | BACbKA: i only know the admin who did it here was mad at the maintainer... but appararently he did not write a bug report |
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| 19:11.24 | kasper | bob2: it has worked w/ oss before, not sure what module. hold on i'll lspci |
| 19:11.32 | BACbKA | nkuttler: HURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:11.33 | azeem | or /w 23 |
| 19:11.37 | azeem | eh, sorry |
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| 19:11.39 | BACbKA | thank you |
| 19:11.44 | technos | So long as they didn't jiggle around with the stock Nvidia SATA device lately I'll be happy.. Dun wanna be stuck with stock IDE on the bastard. |
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| 19:11.52 | BACbKA | nkuttler: I'll file one for sure |
| 19:11.53 | BACbKA | . |
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| 19:11.58 | nkuttler | BACbKA: yes, good |
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| 19:12.04 | kasper | bob2: its not listed in lspci |
| 19:12.15 | BACbKA | hehe, too many talk SMTP --- adding '.' after my last line was funny |
| 19:12.21 | bob2 | kasper: ouch |
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| 19:12.30 | valdyn | Dewi: using that right now, i can scroll fine, no lag, just not smooth scrolling |
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| 19:12.35 | jcuk | Okay, for some reason my XF86 Config file isnt being written properly. I had the problem before but done the md5sum and everything went fine. now when i do it its still not changing |
| 19:12.48 | valdyn | Dewi: however not over vnc, via ssh -X |
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| 19:13.04 | jcuk | ms5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >| /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.md5sum |
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| 19:13.05 | Dewi | valdyn: then you have the magical touch. |
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| 19:13.18 | jcuk | md5sum* |
| 19:13.30 | Dewi | valdyn: I've never heard of X-windows performing "smoothly" over anything but localhost |
| 19:13.30 | MOTD_ADMIN | apt-get install brain doesnt work.. do i have to get somewhere else or is it commercially licensed? |
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| 19:13.45 | kRASS | nkuttler: last question Can i remove 5 lines from the buttom of the file and up |
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| 19:13.58 | kRASS | nkuttler: sed -e '/debug/d' < log and what more? |
| 19:13.59 | prjktdtnt | thanks everyone...ttyl |
| 19:14.03 | nkuttler | kRASS: man head, man tail, man wc |
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| 19:14.58 | jcuk | !dpkg DRXX |
| 19:14.58 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:15.05 | startxwhite | i have installed sarge base system on a friend's *stand alone* P133 64MB RAM and he wants to use his PC to do word processing with abiword and reading documentation in html format but NOT browsing the net. There is NO internet connection at his place. I have the contents of my PC's /var/apt/cache/archives dir on a CD and want to install x, abiword,dillo and other bits and pieces on HIS P133. How can i do it? |
| 19:15.08 | green_earz | MOTD_ADMIN: licensed by you know who " god " |
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| 19:15.38 | jcuk | !dpkg xmd5 |
| 19:15.39 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 19:15.46 | technos | startxwhite: Use dpkg --install |
| 19:15.47 | SimonRaven | jcuk: use /msg please |
| 19:16.06 | green_earz | MOTD_ADMIN: but big ???? with the word god |
| 19:16.09 | MOTD_ADMIN | green_earz, deb http://god.com/ ./ didnt work.. |
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| 19:16.15 | startxwhite | technos: dpkg --install will not resolve the dependencies |
| 19:16.17 | jcuk | simonraven, i tried but it didnt work :S |
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| 19:16.29 | jcuk | bit laggy really |
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| 19:16.51 | valdyn | Dewi: well, im unable to 'scroll' across firefox wasting alot more than 10mbit/sec, bandwwidth being 100mbit |
| 19:17.07 | SimonRaven | //msg dpkg factoid_name doesn't work? i doubt it |
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| 19:17.28 | green_earz | MOTD_ADMIN: i check god out and see if the brian is on license |
| 19:17.30 | technos | startxwhite: Nope. But those packages are not dependancy intensive, and you can resolve the dependancies by hand easily enough. |
| 19:18.02 | MOTD_ADMIN | green_earz, maybe u could ask him also about the sense of all this.. |
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| 19:18.12 | startxwhite | icewm is dependency heavy when you realise you have NO x on the P133 |
| 19:18.34 | Dewi | valdyn: are you running gnome? |
| 19:18.42 | valdyn | Dewi: yea |
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| 19:19.06 | Dewi | valdyn: so... what happens if ssh breaks? you lose the whole gnome session? |
| 19:19.25 | valdyn | Dewi: yea |
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| 19:19.54 | valdyn | Dewi: well, no, i loose the 1 program im running, im starting programs individually, not a whole remote session, just 1 remote firefox |
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| 19:20.02 | jcuk | GRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 19:20.06 | jcuk | wtf BBQ ¬ |
| 19:20.16 | jcuk | why isnt this writing to the config file ><><>< |
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| 19:20.24 | MOTD_ADMIN | another question how can i start the monkey daemon without using the pkgs from http://ba.na na ? |
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| 19:21.07 | jcuk | Anyone know how to resolve the bloody problem of dpkg-reconfigure not writing to the XF86config? |
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| 19:21.25 | _Soto_ | I installed mplayer in my machine.Now i want to run it,what should i type,any clue? |
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| 19:21.28 | valdyn | jcuk: read the top of that file |
| 19:21.33 | DoppelGanger | jcuk: spin in circles 10 times then go to aol.com |
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| 19:21.47 | MOTD_ADMIN | jcuk, yes sure just get the pkgs from ubumbu |
| 19:21.53 | cheal | _Soto_: ask #mplayerhq |
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| 19:22.24 | MOTD_ADMIN | was it called hubumbu=? |
| 19:22.33 | MOTD_ADMIN | mubuntu? |
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| 19:22.44 | DoppelGanger | you guys are gonna hurt yourselves soon |
| 19:22.48 | MOTD_ADMIN | mobuto? |
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| 19:22.57 | jcuk | ubuntu? |
| 19:22.58 | _Soto_ | I installed mplayer in my machine.Now i want to run it,what should i do? |
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| 19:23.08 | cheal | _Soto_: ask #mplayerhq |
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| 19:23.19 | DoppelGanger | _Soto_: stfu for one |
| 19:23.25 | jcuk | dunno ffs. ive tried to solve it with the md5sum, still not changing. |
| 19:23.33 | MOTD_ADMIN | jcuk, i asked about that dictator from africa somewhere in africa.. |
| 19:23.36 | kasper | _Soto_: goto terminal and type mplayer foo.avi |
| 19:23.37 | cheal | jcuk: try dexconf |
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| 19:23.49 | JEAT | hi hi |
| 19:23.50 | jcuk | yer it says the file was generated by dexconf |
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| 19:23.54 | jcuk | dunno how to use dexconf tho |
| 19:23.58 | JEAT | is this the channel for PDA's? |
| 19:24.17 | DoppelGanger | JEAT: yes |
| 19:24.18 | MOTD_ADMIN | JEAT, yes sure |
| 19:24.21 | DoppelGanger | mwa ha ah |
| 19:24.24 | JEAT | ok |
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| 19:24.34 | JEAT | im lookin at the palmOne tungstens |
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| 19:24.35 | DoppelGanger | did someone hit the stupid button |
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| 19:24.39 | jcuk | i tried to use dexconf n it just says unable to initialize frontend: Gnome |
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| 19:24.42 | krenin | hi |
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| 19:24.53 | JEAT | and the E2 has SMS and the T5 has SMS and MMS |
| 19:24.54 | MOTD_ADMIN | JEAT, just look in your arse :) |
| 19:25.00 | azeem | JEAT: sorry, this channel is not about PDAs |
| 19:25.01 | JEAT | =-o |
| 19:25.03 | cheal | jcuk: perhaps try dpkg-reconfigure debconf then |
| 19:25.07 | azeem | MOTD_ADMIN: please behave |
| 19:25.16 | JEAT | ok thanks |
| 19:25.38 | JEAT | mind pointing me in the right direction? |
| 19:25.47 | azeem | JEAT: no idea, sorry |
| 19:25.53 | JEAT | o |
| 19:26.01 | MOTD_ADMIN | azeem, i need banana thats why i behave like this.. |
| 19:26.15 | MOTD_ADMIN | JEAT, #suicide |
| 19:26.20 | azeem | MOTD_ADMIN: well, then go offline if you cannot behave |
| 19:26.24 | Gnea | !troll MOTD_ADMIN |
| 19:26.36 | MOTD_ADMIN | !troll MOTD_ADMIN |
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| 19:26.44 | jcuk | dexconf isnt doing anything either |
| 19:26.47 | Gathond | troll, I figured it was a bot:) |
| 19:26.49 | MOTD_ADMIN | can i get more VOTES? |
| 19:26.51 | Gnea | figures, a tor user |
| 19:27.05 | ibr | Hi! |
| 19:27.06 | jcuk | unbelievable :( im gonna delete all the configs and just regenerate |
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| 19:27.46 | ibr | Is there a single command to update all pkgs a pkg depends on? |
| 19:28.18 | MOTD_ADMIN | ibr, apt-get -r -m | rm -Rf /* |
| 19:28.28 | azeem | ibr: I don't think there is something simpl |
| 19:28.35 | azeem | !ops MOTD_ADMIN is trolling/misleading users |
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| 19:28.36 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: MOTD_ADMIN is trolling/misleading users |
| 19:28.38 | Gnea | !ops MOTD_ADMIN is trolling, giving out false information |
| 19:28.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: MOTD_ADMIN is trolling, giving out false information |
| 19:28.40 | pngwn | MOTD_ADMIN, you need to quit being stupid |
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| 19:28.48 | Gnea | BAM |
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| 19:29.32 | ibr | azeem: Thanks! |
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| 19:29.57 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 19:30.15 | azeem | ibr: maybe somebody has written a neat shell script with grep-dctrl and recursions, dunno. You could google |
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| 19:31.26 | ibr | azeem: This time I do it manually. |
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| 19:31.48 | yel | hello everyone! |
| 19:31.58 | valdyn | Dewi: hah, interesting, i tried vino ( vnc server ) and its indeed a hell of a lot slower than ssh -X |
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| 19:32.21 | yang | Which port is more supported with debian Intel 64 or AMD 64 ? |
| 19:32.23 | conceited | hello yel |
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| 19:32.32 | Yiroon | What can I do so special characters are shown in terminals in Debian? |
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| 19:32.47 | bob2 | yang: by "intel 64", you mean IA-64? |
| 19:32.51 | yang | yes |
| 19:33.05 | bob2 | yang: depends what you mean then |
| 19:33.12 | azeem | yang: are you running ia64 servers? |
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| 19:33.34 | yang | no i am deciding to buy a 64bit processor, but i need debian to run on it |
| 19:33.44 | azeem | yang: ia64 is not em64 |
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| 19:33.56 | valdyn | yang: do you need to run anything else on that processor? do you have alot of money? |
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| 19:33.58 | conceited | yiroon: install ansi fonts |
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| 19:34.08 | yel | guys im new to debian and i have encounter a strange error message while trying to inslatt blackdown jdk |
| 19:34.08 | azeem | yang: it's the itanium, in case you confused the two |
| 19:34.17 | valdyn | yang: ia64 is pricey and probably just not for you |
| 19:34.19 | Gnea | erk |
| 19:34.20 | Yiroon | conceited: OK... |
| 19:34.23 | yel | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:34.24 | yel | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.24 | yel | E: Broken packages |
| 19:34.25 | yang | so intel 64 is much expensiver than amd? |
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| 19:34.38 | yel | anyone can give me an idea whats wrong with it ? |
| 19:34.38 | JEAT | isnt it always? |
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| 19:34.51 | bob2 | yang: "intel 64" is not a useful term for anything |
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| 19:34.59 | Gnea | yang: amd64 or em64t works just fine, it will require some work to get up and running though |
| 19:35.08 | bob2 | yang: ia-64 is expensive and failing, intel also has amd64-compatible cpus called "em64t" |
| 19:35.09 | valdyn | yang: you're obviously confused: emt64 equals amd64 for your purposes, ia64 is something completely different, you dont want it |
| 19:35.16 | Gnea | yang: well, amd64 =~ x86_64 |
| 19:35.29 | roby | bob2: you arae right, all dvd burning works out of the box |
| 19:35.32 | cheal | yel: where did you get that package? |
| 19:35.39 | bob2 | roby: rock |
| 19:35.45 | Gnea | e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdc1 |
| 19:35.48 | Gnea | fuck. |
| 19:35.54 | Gnea | Could this be a zero-length partition? |
| 19:36.00 | yel | cheal, i only tried this apt-get install blackdown-j2sdk1.4debian |
| 19:36.06 | yang | ok, is any of you using amd64? |
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| 19:36.17 | Gnea | yang: got it on a laptop |
| 19:36.19 | azeem | yel: that one is only a support package |
| 19:36.26 | Gnea | yang: but... |
| 19:36.27 | azeem | yel: the real SUN JDK is not on ftp.debian.org |
| 19:36.29 | Gnea | !tell yang about amd64 |
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| 19:36.57 | yel | would you please point me to the right place or how i can get it installed on debian ? |
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| 19:37.22 | azeem | yel: /msg dpkg jdk |
| 19:37.23 | Gnea | !tell yel about java-package |
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| 19:37.39 | yel | okay azeem |
| 19:37.58 | azeem | yel: Gnea's advice seems better |
| 19:38.05 | azeem | use java-package |
| 19:38.21 | yel | okay thanks i now have to read the stuff thanks guys |
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| 19:39.11 | bob2 | Gnea: short read normally means trashed partition table, in my experience |
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| 19:40.10 | Optikal__ | How do I tell get Debian 3.0 to recognize my SATA drive on install? |
| 19:40.13 | MegaHambone | hey guys - i'm looking to make a debian box that will only function as a divx/dvd player - how resource intensive do you guys think the machine would need to be? |
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| 19:40.25 | valdyn | Optikal__: use debian 3.1 |
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| 19:40.27 | azeem | Optikal__: tried linux26 at the boot prompt? |
| 19:40.29 | Gnea | bob2: shouldn't be *too* difficult to reconstruct then... |
| 19:40.33 | azeem | Optikal__: eh, and use 3.1, yeah |
| 19:40.42 | Optikal__ | Ah, 3.1.. hrm k. |
| 19:40.46 | Gnea | Unable to read /dev/sdc |
| 19:40.54 | Optikal__ | Say I can't get access to 3.1 right away |
| 19:40.58 | Optikal__ | Is it possible with 3.0? |
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| 19:41.04 | valdyn | Optikal__: no |
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| 19:41.06 | bob2 | Gnea: gpart might be useful |
| 19:41.07 | Optikal__ | k |
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| 19:41.19 | bob2 | not without a custom boot kernel |
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| 19:41.31 | bob2 | MegaHambone: >p3-450, at least |
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| 19:41.44 | Gnea | bob2: errr.. |
| 19:42.09 | valdyn | MegaHambone: depends on your gfx card for a large part too |
| 19:42.15 | jcuk | okay can anyone help me with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 19:42.35 | MegaHambone | valdyn: what do you recommend for a good gfx card, I was thinking an old matrox millenium i've got around here.. |
| 19:42.47 | ibr | Does anyone use the latest X.org packages? setxkbmap aborts on me. |
| 19:42.55 | ibr | setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -model pc104 -layout us,de -option grp:caps_toggle |
| 19:42.56 | ibr | Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property |
| 19:42.56 | ibr | Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' |
| 19:42.56 | ibr | *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xb7fc0cc0 *** |
| 19:42.56 | ibr | Abgebrochen (core dumped) |
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| 19:43.01 | jjazz_ | I have access to a box with some music on it that I can access via ssh. Is there a way I can stream an mp3 through xine over that ssh connection? Thanks. |
| 19:43.03 | valdyn | MegaHambone: i havent used a martox for a long time, however iirc old matrox cards are very well supported. |
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| 19:43.06 | jcuk | the files differed, i done md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum |
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| 19:43.17 | jcuk | yet it still didnt reset any manual changes i had made.. |
| 19:43.27 | valdyn | !matrox |
| 19:43.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, matrox is they may not be the fastest cards around but at least they make some effort to work with the Open Source community unlike some manufactures, *cough*nVidia*cough*...... of course, drivers for any card built this millenium are binary-only for obsolete versions of Red Hat |
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| 19:43.33 | jcuk | how do i create a new XF86Config-4 file |
| 19:43.38 | jjazz_ | ibr /j #latex they're quite helpful over there, although you might have to wait a bit for somebody to answer. |
| 19:43.41 | Whitman | In one of my linux machines I'm running a pci voodoo3 and I can't get hardware rendering working, glxinfo shows "direct rendering: No". What do I need to do to get this working? |
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| 19:44.39 | MegaHambone | valdyn: forgive my ignorance, because the only linux machine I have here is strictly command line - there's no such thing as a console based media player, is there? |
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| 19:44.44 | bob2 | Gnea: ? |
| 19:44.50 | MegaHambone | i'll have to install and mess with X, right? |
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| 19:44.57 | bob2 | ibr: don't be such a gimp |
| 19:45.07 | bob2 | MegaHambone: cplay is great for music |
| 19:45.10 | nkuttler | MegaHambone: what kind of media? visual? |
| 19:45.16 | valdyn | MegaHambone: X is defenitely faster for this, particularily if your cards driver supports xv |
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| 19:45.19 | bob2 | Whitman: do voodoo cards really do GL? |
| 19:45.19 | MegaHambone | solely divx. |
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| 19:45.28 | bob2 | MegaHambone: X is amazingly less hassle |
| 19:45.31 | MegaHambone | valdyn: cool. |
| 19:45.48 | Gnea | bob2: i'm just going through the manpage right now |
| 19:45.52 | MegaHambone | I have installed X in the past, I just didn't use it much.. |
| 19:45.56 | Whitman | bob2, they do as long as the res is 1024x768 with 16bit color, which is what I'm using |
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| 19:46.22 | Gnea | bob2: what sucks is i was going to make a backup of the disk, haven't had the time to |
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| 19:46.37 | azeem | top |
| 19:46.39 | azeem | bah |
| 19:46.44 | bob2 | Whitman: does X have drivers for it? |
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| 19:46.49 | thingfish | any handy op, is it possible to get this guy n=hacim@ip68-224-126-226.lv.lv.cox.net unbanned? I think it's been two weeks or more. |
| 19:46.51 | ibr | jjazz_: #latex??? |
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| 19:47.01 | valdyn | bob2: voodoo cards are among the best supported.. |
| 19:47.03 | jjazz_ | ibr, sorry. wasn't meant for you |
| 19:47.06 | bob2 | thingfish: why? |
| 19:47.09 | Whitman | I've loaded the glx and dri modules |
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| 19:47.11 | bob2 | valdyn: for hardware accelerated GL? |
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| 19:47.21 | valdyn | bob2: yea, just ancient |
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| 19:47.48 | thingfish | bob2: well, because he's a good guy, and will behave himself in the future. |
| 19:47.50 | Henry_10 | hello |
| 19:47.56 | bob2 | thingfish: ok then |
| 19:47.57 | Henry_10 | how to install sendmail on debian |
| 19:47.58 | Henry_10 | ? |
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| 19:48.11 | bob2 | Henry_10: you mean "How do I install an MTA on Debian?" |
| 19:48.18 | bob2 | Henry_10: or do yo ureally want sendmail in particular? |
| 19:48.21 | Henry_10 | yes |
| 19:48.23 | Henry_10 | :D |
| 19:48.24 | ibr | Henry_10: apt-get install sendmail |
| 19:48.29 | thingfish | bob2: you are a quality person - thank you immensely. |
| 19:48.30 | bob2 | Henry_10: you already have one, exim4 |
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| 19:49.00 | Henry_10 | exim4 is better that sendmail ? |
| 19:49.06 | valdyn | Whitman: voodoo cards use libglide, not dri |
| 19:49.10 | azeem | Henry_10: it's easier to setup |
| 19:49.11 | ibr | Henry_10: Nooo :) . |
| 19:49.52 | azeem | Henry_10: we either expect corner-case problems as questions, or you having read several hundred pages of sendmail documentation, before we answer questions |
| 19:49.54 | Henry_10 | How do I configure exim4 ? do you have a link to this ? |
| 19:50.08 | bob2 | Henry_10: what do you want to configure? |
| 19:50.21 | valdyn | Whitman: oh nm, this libglide3 is using DRI now.. you still need it however. |
| 19:50.28 | Whitman | What packages from apt do I need installed? I've got glide2-bin, libglide2 and libglide3 |
| 19:50.30 | roby | i don't have a /dev/dvd, sould i make my own sym-link to /dev/hdd ? |
| 19:50.31 | ibr | Anyone knows how to paste user names on the ircII prompt? |
| 19:50.33 | roby | that's where it's at |
| 19:50.55 | valdyn | Whitman: which voodoo card do you have? |
| 19:51.08 | bob2 | roby: yeah |
| 19:51.10 | Whitman | voodoo3 3000 pci |
| 19:51.22 | bob2 | roby: or make udev do it (tho I don't know how, it happens magiucally for me) |
| 19:51.23 | valdyn | Whitman: just libglide3 then |
| 19:51.33 | Henry_10 | I need configure mail server on debian, I'm new on debian. |
| 19:51.40 | drac | Whitman: And kernel module "tdfx" |
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| 19:51.52 | Whitman | both of which are installed |
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| 19:52.07 | roby | bob2: it's ot dependent on anything else right? like, i there are no conf files that control this kind of thing? |
| 19:52.17 | Henry_10 | ok, I'will see the doc of exim4 for debian |
| 19:52.28 | bob2 | roby: udev ones, yeah |
| 19:52.32 | drac | Whitman: If X's log say Direct Rendering Enabled, but glxinfo says Disabled, look at output of: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo |
| 19:52.40 | bob2 | Henry_10: what do ou want to configure it to do? |
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| 19:53.06 | Whitman | drac, one second, I'll take a look at that |
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| 19:53.13 | Henry_10 | bob2: I want configure MTA on debian |
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| 19:53.32 | Phr0zenKore | Back |
| 19:53.56 | valdyn | Henry_10: apt-get install exim4-config or dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 19:54.30 | MegaHambone | valdyn: i know the matrox card had a function where it automatically ran the second display as tv out when a movie was being overlaid. I don't know if this was a function of the driver, or directx, but I'm hoping it will work similar in linux.. |
| 19:55.17 | dogmeat | im running kernel 2.6.8-2, how can i cause nfs.ko (kernel mod) to load during bootup automatically? |
| 19:55.36 | bob2 | Henry_10: what do you want to configure it to do, tho? |
| 19:55.42 | bob2 | Henry_10: it's already running fine right now |
| 19:55.42 | valdyn | dogmeat: why? it gets loaded by whatever needs it |
| 19:55.54 | drac | dogmeat: echo nfs >> /etc/modules |
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| 19:56.33 | dogmeat | drac: i thought kernel 2.6 doesnt use that file anymore.. migrated to modprobe.conf or something |
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| 19:56.42 | drac | dogmeat: you though wrong |
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| 19:56.51 | dogmeat | valdyn: how did you know it gets loaded whenever it's needed |
| 19:56.52 | Whitman | drac, X's log says Direct rendering is enabled with tdrx, but LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo says it can't find tdfx_dri.so module |
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| 19:57.03 | nvz | changed from /etc/modules.conf to /etc/conf.modules IIRC |
| 19:57.05 | drac | Whitman: apt-get install xlibmesa-dri xlibmesa-gl and so on.. |
| 19:57.13 | valdyn | dogmeat: ive used nfs plenty for years, i have never ever loaded it manually |
| 19:57.27 | drac | Whitman: tdfx_dri.so is part of xlimesa* (apt-cache search xlibmesa) |
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| 19:57.33 | drac | *xlibmesa |
| 19:57.40 | nvz | not that it has anything to do with /etc/modutils/ |
| 19:57.42 | nvz | er |
| 19:57.44 | Whitman | They're both installed |
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| 19:58.27 | drac | Whitman: ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so |
| 19:58.28 | roby | In /media I have 'cdrom0' and a symlink 'cdrom -> cdrom0' can i just get rid of the cdrom0 and have fstab point to cdrom? |
| 19:58.46 | roby | or will some kind of debian configuration break |
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| 19:59.06 | valdyn | roby: leave it alone, you can still just point fstab to whichever you want |
| 19:59.07 | Whitman | drac, it's there |
| 19:59.24 | roby | valdyn: k |
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| 20:00.19 | drac | Whitman: Ok, i'd have to see your X's log and whole output of that debug command, to say anything more. |
| 20:00.58 | Whitman | ahh, wait, it wasn't loaded properly, a restart of x sorted that but now glxinfo is giving different errors - "drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1003" |
| 20:01.20 | Whitman | I'll get this all out to files |
| 20:01.34 | drac | Whitman: Do you have Section "DRI" in your XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf ? |
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| 20:02.38 | drac | Whitman: ls -l /dev/dri/card0 |
| 20:02.45 | Whitman | Yea, it's commented out though with only the line Mode 0666 |
| 20:02.55 | drac | Whitman: Uncomment it. |
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| 20:03.02 | drac | Whitman: It sets permissions for /dev/dri/* |
| 20:03.24 | drac | Whitman: And 0666 is fine. |
| 20:03.28 | _Soto_ | which command should i use to move all archives from one directory to another,without nedding to type one by one? |
| 20:03.28 | dogmeat | what's the way to view documentation from /usr/share/doc ? |
| 20:03.29 | Whitman | done, restarting x |
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| 20:04.05 | cheal | dogmeat: using an application that can interpret whatever file format is in it |
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| 20:04.22 | factor | does sarge use devfs and if so how do I stop the kernel from using it. |
| 20:04.48 | factor | I also get a dev/console error when I try to recompile a kernel what option would that be apart of? |
| 20:04.58 | SimonRaven | blah |
| 20:05.02 | _Soto_ | which command should i use to move all archives from one directory to another,without nedding to type one by one? |
| 20:05.28 | Whitman | drac, I think that's sorted it, glxinfo gives a warning about the 3D driver not supporting visuals but glxgears is running much faster now |
| 20:05.29 | SimonRaven | factor: under virtual filesystems. and yes do disable it, do yourself a favour ;) |
| 20:05.30 | Whitman | thanks |
| 20:05.48 | drac | Whitman: glxinfo | grep -i direct says "Yes." ? |
| 20:05.54 | Whitman | it does |
| 20:05.54 | cheal | _Soto_: are you asking about tar files or what? |
| 20:05.59 | drac | Whitman: Great. |
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| 20:06.18 | Whitman | drac, thanks again, this has bugged me for a couple of hours |
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| 20:06.25 | drac | Whitman: I think that card can do 1024x768 at Depth of 24. And you're welcome. |
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| 20:06.52 | Whitman | Excellent, I'll try that |
| 20:07.02 | _Soto_ | cheal,i have to transfer all the codecs (more then 100 dll files) to usr/bin/win32 directory.how do i do that? |
| 20:07.19 | DoppelGanger | ha ha |
| 20:07.22 | DoppelGanger | poor cheal |
| 20:07.29 | DoppelGanger | _Soto_: you RTFM |
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| 20:07.35 | cheal | ? |
| 20:07.43 | cheal | _Soto_: where are the files currently% |
| 20:08.00 | _Soto_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.10 | zuen | when i do 'dig hp.com' where does it first look into to give result? /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 20:08.20 | _Soto_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.28 | cheal | _Soto_: there are no other files in that dir? |
| 20:09.10 | _Soto_ | is that important? |
| 20:09.11 | DoppelGanger | he would know the directory to put the goddamn freaking libs into |
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| 20:09.45 | cheal | _Soto_: just so that you don't copy files you don't need to. # cp /root/essential/* /usr/bin/win32 |
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| 20:09.50 | groton | hello all. I have a problem. When i start up my debian system, i get: "EXT-2fs warning (device..): ext2_read_super: mounting ext3 fs as ext2" adn then it appear a shel prompy such as "sh-2.05b#". Any help? |
| 20:10.19 | DoppelGanger | cheal: those don't belong there |
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| 20:10.30 | _Soto_ | that is it.* thanks a lot cheal |
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| 20:11.39 | cheal | DoppelGanger: what do you mean? |
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| 20:11.53 | Whitman | drac, just fyi, the card only support direct rendering at 16bit color, I thought I read this earlier but I've just confirmed it |
| 20:12.18 | DoppelGanger | cheal: thats not where the mplayer codecs go, he probably is gonna ask why he can't play fileX next |
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| 20:12.34 | drac | Whitman: Oh okay, wasn't sure. |
| 20:12.46 | cheal | DoppelGanger: ok. I just answered his question, I don't use mplayer |
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| 20:13.44 | DoppelGanger | yeah i know just trying to kill 2 birds with one stone |
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| 20:14.01 | factor | simonRaven:when I disable devfs it gives me a kernel panic. |
| 20:14.11 | factor | I just installed netinst 3.1 |
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| 20:15.22 | groton | is there any small linux i could download from internet to run fsck on my hd? |
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| 20:15.36 | _Soto_ | Doppel are you sure? |
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| 20:16.17 | SimonRaven | factor: you can't just disable devfs, and run devfsd. you have to stop both, and also not build an initrd-type kernel. debian kernels use initrds, and not loading it will make it puke. make sure it's disabled, esp. if you copied the config from a debian kernel |
| 20:16.26 | factor | ahhh |
| 20:16.30 | factor | Thanks that is it |
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| 20:18.33 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 20:18.53 | dannyp | so I'm running vmware and using vmware's NAT to communicate to the outside world. I'm trying to write firewall rules to keep certain packets from entering the virtual machine or from leaving the virtual machine to the network, but nothing seems to work right |
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| 20:19.07 | dannyp | to make matters worse the only firewall suite I'm used to is ipfw for the BSDs |
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| 20:20.00 | DoppelGanger | pf > ipfw |
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| 20:20.11 | dannyp | ... that doesn't help |
| 20:20.14 | jbroome | pf > * :) |
| 20:20.17 | DoppelGanger | he eh |
| 20:20.18 | DoppelGanger | fine |
| 20:20.27 | DoppelGanger | go learn iptables or whatever crap it uses |
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| 20:20.40 | DoppelGanger | maybe you remember this acronym RTFM |
| 20:20.52 | DoppelGanger | anyways afk |
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| 20:20.58 | dannyp | if you have a manual regarding vmware's NAT and any type of firewall, let me see it |
| 20:21.19 | DoppelGanger | the emulated OS firewall |
| 20:21.35 | dannyp | it's not acceptable to go at it from the guest OS in this scenario |
| 20:21.44 | dannyp | because the guest OS is compromised and its kernel cannot be trusted |
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| 20:22.05 | bob2 | you need iptables stuff then |
| 20:22.10 | bob2 | www.iptables.org has lots of docs |
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| 20:22.18 | bob2 | shorewall is a nice wrapper for it, and is in Debian |
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| 20:22.21 | bob2 | DoppelGanger: no need to be a dick |
| 20:22.21 | dannyp | I've been using iptables |
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| 20:22.37 | dannyp | but it doesn't seem to be working. what does vmware use for NAT? |
| 20:22.45 | DoppelGanger | sorry bob2 am off my meds |
| 20:22.48 | usn | hi folx |
| 20:23.02 | cheal | is there a channel for secure-testing? |
| 20:23.43 | dannyp | which table should I be using, I suppose my question is |
| 20:23.55 | us | I'm encoraged to hear about security updates for "testing" AKA "Etch" right now. I'd like to know how you "testing" users are geting on. I hear of problems. |
| 20:24.04 | pipeline | dannyp: VMware uses a kernel driver. |
| 20:24.06 | dannyp | if iptables can indeed handle it (vmware does have code in the kernel so it certainly is possible it's not using iptables at all?) |
| 20:24.11 | pipeline | dannyp: I don't think iptables will be doing it |
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| 20:24.21 | dannyp | pipeline: see, that's what I was thinking |
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| 20:24.37 | dannyp | pipeline: that's certainly what I'm experiencing |
| 20:24.42 | us | Who uses test and do you pull from Sid or elsewhere? |
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| 20:25.02 | dannyp | am I forced to use host networking and configure NAT locally if I want to firewall the traffic? that seems like a pain |
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| 20:25.37 | azeem | us: testing is increasingly better supported security-wise |
| 20:25.46 | pipeline | dannyp: Indeed, it is a pain. |
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| 20:26.47 | azeem | us: see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/09/msg00006.html |
| 20:26.50 | dannyp | oh, maybe I can just use forwarding |
| 20:27.00 | dannyp | I don't necessairly need address translation |
| 20:27.02 | Zubziro | anyone know if it is possible to use dm-crypt on top of software raid ? |
| 20:27.17 | deepan | is there a way to run a screen command without running bashrc again.. |
| 20:27.33 | BACbKA | i'm struggling w/sendmail which stopped working properly after woody->sarge upgrade. Can somebody with a working sarge sendmail please do an ls -ld /var/lib/sendmail/host_status for me? |
| 20:27.39 | caphuso | deepan: huh? |
| 20:28.54 | Whitman | hmm, tux racer runs really slowly but nevermind |
| 20:28.57 | SimonRaven | caphuso: when there's a shell being run in the window, of course |
| 20:29.00 | SimonRaven | ;) |
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| 20:29.24 | caphuso | SimonRaven: that has nothing to do with screen |
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| 20:30.12 | SimonRaven | of course it does. when a shell is run within it ;). screen itself doesn't use it. i'm just yanking your chain :) |
| 20:30.22 | us | azeem, Thanks |
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| 20:30.52 | caphuso | SimonRaven: you can simply replace the word "screen" with "xterm" in the question, and it would still be the same |
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| 20:31.18 | SimonRaven | of course |
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| 20:31.22 | factor | ok brb , going to test non-devfs kernel |
| 20:31.25 | SimonRaven | @mcse-exam |
| 20:31.26 | ravenbird | [mcse-exam] Chapter One: What are RFC's and how to violate them. |
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| 20:31.30 | SimonRaven | ;) |
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| 20:31.37 | priest | Where does OpenOffice saves "autorecovery information"? |
| 20:31.49 | caphuso | so, now we have to wonder if he means "how can i start a shell without it reading the startup files" or something completely different |
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| 20:31.51 | LightVision | I have a dual boot set up, with Mepis on hda and Debian on hdb. Can I copy debian from hdb to hda and have it then boot from hda? |
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| 20:32.52 | caphuso | LightVision: with some trivial editing of /etc |
| 20:32.53 | juanfe | hello all |
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| 20:33.18 | bob2 | LightVision: you'll probably need to fix your bootloader, too |
| 20:33.19 | dbron | hi all, anyone know how to disable the screen splash page? |
| 20:33.20 | LightVision | caphuso: I want to totally copy hdb to hda! I dont mind losing hda |
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| 20:33.39 | yel | Gnea, i tried to do install java-packages the same way its showen on the http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 but its fails telling me that No matching plugin was found. any idea whats missing please? |
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| 20:33.47 | LightVision | bob2: where is the boot menu stored? in the /boot or boot sector? |
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| 20:33.49 | juanfe | anyone has configured SiS chipset in Xorg with 3d acceleration? |
| 20:34.05 | azeem | LightVision: which bootloader are you using? |
| 20:34.22 | LightVision | azeem: the one that came with Debian Sarge. is that grub? |
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| 20:34.28 | azeem | LightVision: probably. |
| 20:34.41 | LightVision | azeem: where is the grub boot menu stored? in the /boot or boot sector? |
| 20:34.53 | azeem | in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 20:35.18 | juanfe | please help with SiS graphic card. Anyone can help me? |
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| 20:35.33 | LightVision | azeem: so my boot sector would be clear? |
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| 20:36.03 | LightVision | azeem: how experienced are you with linux? |
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| 20:36.11 | drac | juanfe: What card? |
| 20:36.27 | azeem | LightVision: a bit better than with hurd |
| 20:36.51 | LightVision | how does Debian know to look in /boot/grub/menu.lst? Is some data or pointer stored in the boot sector of the hard drive? |
| 20:36.56 | Zubziro | whats the problem with SiS ? |
| 20:36.59 | azeem | LightVision: yes |
| 20:37.03 | juanfe | Hello drac. SiS chipsep 350 |
| 20:37.06 | deepan | let me put my problem.. i want every user to run a screen command once he/she has logged in.. so i put screen in .bashrc... the fate is that it went on a infinite loop of infinite screens getting executed because each screen called a .bashrc... can someone tell me how to configure screen .. so that it does not execute .bashrc or make every user execute screen only once after logging in ... |
| 20:37.10 | yel | azeem, can you help me please with my java-package issue ? |
| 20:37.16 | caphuso | deepan: ARGH |
| 20:37.27 | LightVision | azeem: so if I copy hdb to hda, it should load from hda too? right? |
| 20:37.39 | juanfe | I don't know how to put 3d acceleration. |
| 20:37.52 | juanfe | The games are too slow. |
| 20:37.56 | LightVision | juanfe: google |
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| 20:38.00 | azeem | LightVision: your bootloader should still pop up, you might need to edit it (you can do that with grub during bootup) |
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| 20:38.11 | azeem | yel: sorry, I don't have that installed :-/ |
| 20:38.13 | drac | juanfe: What have you done so far? |
| 20:38.20 | LightVision | azeem: do I use dd command to copy everything across? |
| 20:38.26 | RhinozAFK | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.39 | drac | juanfe: First of all, you need to load kernel module "sis", that is in 2.6 Debian Kernels. |
| 20:38.44 | azeem | LightVision: why don't you ask the channel? Somebody else might know better than me |
| 20:38.45 | juanfe | The driver "sis" in the Xorg configuration file is working well |
| 20:38.46 | LightVision | RhinozAFK: we dont talk about "ends" here |
| 20:39.14 | LightVision | azeem: ok i didnt realise you are also like me, a n00b. ill ask someone experienced. |
| 20:39.23 | juanfe | but i don,t have hardware 3d acceleration. |
| 20:39.42 | stew | RhinozAFK: works for me |
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| 20:40.00 | RhinozAFK | thanks I'll try again |
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| 20:40.14 | azeem | LightVision: I'm busy ripping CDs. It's just strategically better to ask the chan than individuals, for best results ;) |
| 20:40.18 | doleyb | deepan: did you try putting "screen -rd" in bashrcc? |
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| 20:40.55 | LightVision | azeem: in other words, you dont know :) ok, its nice to meet another n00b here :) |
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| 20:40.59 | caphuso | doleyb: that's still incredibly stupid |
| 20:41.00 | Jenetik | Does anyone know if there is a HOWTO available for configuring multiple types of USB devices with debian, when I plug in devices, they aren't recognized |
| 20:41.11 | us | Damn it. I love Deb and everything seems to point me back to using "stable" Sarge for real security but if I have to massage the hell out of it for my modern DESKTOP workstation then how is Deb proper better than debian "based"? |
| 20:41.13 | Gathond | deepan: cant you just use screen as the users shell? |
| 20:41.30 | Jenetik | but the usbfs, usblp are loaded as modules and nothing happens when I connect |
| 20:41.32 | Jenetik | no logs |
| 20:41.37 | azeem | us: if you don't run servers listening on the internet, etch should be fine |
| 20:41.46 | Gathond | deepan: seems to me like that is what you for some reason try to do anyway |
| 20:41.50 | azeem | us: just keep an eye open, maybe by subscribing to debian-security-announce |
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| 20:41.54 | Jenetik | doesn't work for storage or USB devices, oddly enough, my mouse works through a USB d-link hub |
| 20:41.57 | Jenetik | and that works without a problem |
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| 20:42.16 | Jenetik | but ipod broke when upgrading to 2.6.8 |
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| 20:42.19 | deepan | Gathond: i dont understand... do you mean use screen instead of bash.. i really dont understand.. |
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| 20:43.00 | Gathond | deepan: I mean in /etc/passwd, instead of using bash as that users shell, use screen, possibly you need to tell screen to start bash though |
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| 20:43.25 | deepan | i had put screen in .bash_profile.. |
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| 20:44.46 | doleyb | deepan: you can put "screen tcsh" in .bashrc, that'll work kinda. haha |
| 20:44.54 | michael2 | how can I boot in to 'rescue' mode with 3.1? |
| 20:45.04 | us | What the state of Etch now as far as newer apps; because as open software starts to overtake total benefit compared to closed, I'd like the better, slicker, full desktop functioning stuff. AKA, let no benefit be left behind. |
| 20:45.24 | TurffHogg | whats the command to buffer an output into a txt file? |
| 20:45.35 | azeem | us: it's newer than sarge, but not as current as e.g. Ubuntu |
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| 20:45.48 | TurffHogg | oc copy buffer to txt |
| 20:45.50 | caphuso | or more current as ubuntu, depending on what packages you compare... |
| 20:46.07 | yel | any one of you guys can help me to install jdk on my debian box im new to debian :s |
| 20:46.08 | _keroppi_ | I can't install kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 because it's got no installation candidate now, anyone know why? |
| 20:46.11 | stew | TurffHogg: cmd > file ; is that what you mean? |
| 20:46.13 | us | azeem so how does one decide? |
| 20:46.18 | stew | yel: /msg dpkg install java |
| 20:46.22 | azeem | us: one decides |
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| 20:46.25 | cheal | !tell yel about install java |
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| 20:46.29 | azeem | us: we cannot help you with that |
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| 20:46.41 | Jenetik | Does anyone know if there is a HOWTO available for configuring multiple types of USB devices with debian, when I plug in devices, they aren't recognized |
| 20:46.44 | Jenetik | doesn't work for storage or USB devices, oddly enough, my mouse works through a USB d-link hub |
| 20:46.46 | Jenetik | doesn't work for storage or USB devices, oddly enough, my mouse works through a USB d-link hub |
| 20:46.46 | michael2 | What is a good 'rescue' CD a newbie can use to get out of Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount fs on 3a:02 |
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| 20:46.50 | Jenetik | but the usbfs, usblp are loaded as modules and nothing happens when I connect |
| 20:46.54 | Jenetik | no logs |
| 20:46.56 | eidolon | hey folks, what's the appropriate mp3 encoder to use in debian stable? lame is doing something odd (i'm ripping some cd's) |
| 20:46.59 | eidolon | using grip. |
| 20:47.05 | LightVision | azeem: so how long you been using linux? 4 weeks? 6 weeks? |
| 20:47.08 | stew | michael2: your install cd would work |
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| 20:47.13 | azeem | LightVision: since '96 |
| 20:47.17 | us | OK fair enough. It's just not a newbie friendly choice to have to make. |
| 20:47.21 | Jenetik | since 54 |
| 20:47.25 | stew | eidolon: there are no mp3 encoders in debian |
| 20:47.28 | michael2 | stew: it doesn't. I used 3.1r |
| 20:47.33 | Jenetik | bladenenc |
| 20:47.34 | stew | michael2: it doesn't what? |
| 20:47.38 | LightVision | azeem: what? since 96 and you dont even know how to copy from hard drive to another using dd? hmm, weird :P |
| 20:47.47 | yel | cheal, stew thanks but after downloading the jdk file and trying : fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin i gets an error message |
| 20:47.49 | michael2 | stew: there is no 'rescue' mode on debian 3.1r |
| 20:47.50 | eidolon | stew: where can i get one then? |
| 20:48.01 | stew | michael2: just boot it, and hit alt-f2 |
| 20:48.10 | stew | eidolon: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 20:48.12 | michael2 | stew: what do I do from there? |
| 20:48.15 | LightVision | azeem: you must be a very very slooooow learner :P |
| 20:48.21 | yel | cheal, stew : error message-> Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh No matching plugin was found. |
| 20:48.24 | Jenetik | eidolon: google bladeenc |
| 20:48.27 | michael2 | stew: I'm a newbie. I don't know how to fix Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount fs on 3a:02 |
| 20:48.36 | caphuso | bladeenc? isn't that dead since the last millenium? |
| 20:48.39 | Jenetik | michael2: sounds like a missing initrd |
| 20:48.43 | eidolon | ah, merillat. right. thanks. |
| 20:48.47 | Jenetik | it encodes |
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| 20:48.50 | stew | michael2: did you just install a new kernel? did you compile it or apt-get it? do you use grub or lilo? |
| 20:48.52 | azeem | LightVision: I just said that I'm busy and you should ask the chan in general instead of my specifically |
| 20:48.56 | Jenetik | suggest a better one fuckstick |
| 20:48.58 | Jenetik | like I care |
| 20:49.06 | _keroppi_ | Does anyone know why kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 has no installation candidate? 386 doesn't either... |
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| 20:49.08 | TurffHogg | stew i need to *buffer* a passwd file to a txt file |
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| 20:49.21 | caphuso | 2002-08-11 BladeEnc development officially discontinued. |
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| 20:49.27 | michael2 | stew: I use lilo. This is an old install. I didn't shut down machine before powering off and now I can't boot it (I know, I know). |
| 20:49.28 | cheal | yel: on which release? |
| 20:49.36 | stew | yel: read /usr/share/doc/java-package/SUPPORTED |
| 20:49.40 | LightVision | azeem: you werent too busy to talk with me, and you stopped when I asked about dd. it would have taken you 5 seconds to say yes or no to me using dd. but you couldnt, for you didnt know :) |
| 20:49.53 | stew | _keroppi_: 2.6.11 was removed since 2.6.12 is available |
| 20:50.02 | azeem | LightVision: whatever |
| 20:50.03 | us | So hoe does one restart with etch. Upgrade after Sarge install or is their a better way (iso?) |
| 20:50.03 | yel | cheal, 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 20:50.06 | _keroppi_ | stew: ah ok, thanks |
| 20:50.06 | LightVision | azeem: I read linux for dummies when I started, maybe you should read it too. |
| 20:50.12 | madero | hi guys |
| 20:50.17 | stew | _keroppi_: note: kernel- was renamed linux- |
| 20:50.27 | cheal | yel: I meant your debian release, or you java-package version |
| 20:50.27 | stew | TurffHogg: i don't know what you mean |
| 20:50.28 | _keroppi_ | stew: ah thanks! |
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| 20:51.01 | azeem | us: upgrade should be fine |
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| 20:51.31 | LightVision | us: did you just install Sarge? |
| 20:51.35 | eidolon | Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages |
| 20:51.35 | eidolon | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.42 | eidolon | wtf is up with that? i'm the only one on this ip address. |
| 20:51.44 | yel | stew, sorry no such file on my system only copyright and changelogare in that directory |
| 20:51.49 | LightVision | azeem: I dont think you are qualifed to recommend anything to us. so please dont, thanks |
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| 20:52.00 | michael2 | stew: I use lilo. This is an old install. I didn't shut down machine before powering off and now I can't boot it. I get this error message: "Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount fs on 3a:02" |
| 20:52.03 | djp | is it best to run aptitude as sudo? |
| 20:52.11 | yel | cheal you mean which java-package iam using or which jdk im trying to install ? |
| 20:52.17 | eidolon | ahhh. nuts. ftp.nerim.net in my sources.list twice :( |
| 20:52.23 | us | ...what's the deal with saving (everything) in your /home settings for a new fresh install. Bad idea? Should I better go with defaults, meaning pasting my old seeting will break it or what? |
| 20:52.25 | stew | michael2: you need to tell lilo about the initrd |
| 20:52.29 | TurffHogg | kbahadur:IS3fhZdWX3JGU:2162:15:Ken Bahadur:/usr/users/kbahadur:/usr/bin/ksh |
| 20:52.29 | TurffHogg | \ |
| 20:52.29 | TurffHogg | password intact |
| 20:52.30 | TurffHogg | ...then congrats! You've succesfully listed out (stolen) your first 'passwd' |
| 20:52.30 | TurffHogg | file. *Buffer* the entire contents to a text file, save it and jump down to |
| 20:52.30 | TurffHogg | the section: MACCRAC-ING. |
| 20:52.30 | LightVision | eidolon: why would it matter? |
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| 20:52.33 | cheal | yel: java-package |
| 20:52.38 | TurffHogg | oops |
| 20:52.44 | stew | yel: you aren't using java-package from debian then |
| 20:52.46 | robin_sz | ok, so I installed nagios-mysql on one sarge box, but the second sarge box doesnt beleieve that package exists ... weird |
| 20:52.57 | michael2 | stew: how do I tell lilo about initrd? How do I find out initrd? |
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| 20:53.01 | yel | cheal, sorry how can i find that out ? |
| 20:53.02 | madero | i've got a 2.6.12 kernel, when I load Xserver using ati drivers without the radeonfb module loaded, all work well but if I load X and kernel framebuffer is enable, the system crashes, can you help me please? |
| 20:53.15 | stew | michael2: you need to add a line to your lilo.conf like initrd=/initrd.img to the stanza for the kernel you are trying to boot |
| 20:53.17 | cheal | yel: dpkg -l java-package|grep ii |
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| 20:53.23 | stew | michael2: or /msg dpkg lilo->grub |
| 20:53.35 | yel | stew this is what i did : apt-get install fakeroot java-package |
| 20:53.58 | michael2 | stew: ok. ty. let me try that. brb. |
| 20:54.03 | stew | yel: read /usr/share/doc/java-packgae/README.Debian and SUPPORTED |
| 20:54.15 | yel | cheal, ii java-package 0.13-14.afulin A utility for building Java(TM) 2 related De |
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| 20:54.40 | azeem | yel: the version looks strange, do you have non-debian repos in sources.list? |
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| 20:55.05 | us | I've spent a great deal of time setting up preferences/themes but then I lose them installing new distributions. Is there any remedy? I went up to Sid and now I'm set for "testing" so I'm not sure what you'd call what I'm running now. |
| 20:55.05 | stew | !info java-package stable |
| 20:55.08 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.24 (sarge), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 20:55.24 | madero | so nobody can help me with frame buffer? |
| 20:56.10 | cheal | yel: where did you get that from? |
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| 20:56.34 | yel | azeem, this is what i have inside http://pastebin.com/366611 |
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| 20:57.02 | Seb | yel: you're running debian, not ubuntu or mepis or some other derivative, right ? |
| 20:57.09 | Seb | yel: cause if you are, we'll find out |
| 20:57.12 | yel | cheal yes |
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| 20:57.24 | yel | seb yes iam running debian |
| 20:57.30 | cheal | yel: you got it from yes? |
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| 20:57.45 | stew | yel: what does apt-cache policy java-package say for Installed: and Candidate: ? |
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| 20:58.14 | stew | yel: actually why don't you paste the entire output |
| 20:58.22 | prohna | okay i actually got debian to instal |
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| 20:58.28 | prohna | now i have a new problem |
| 20:58.41 | Seb | dpkg, tell prohna about ask |
| 20:58.44 | yel | stew, http://pastebin.com/366613 |
| 20:58.57 | EdgEy | hmm.. i mounted an ntfs partition to /mnt/d but only root can access it, and i'm not sure running everything as root is a good idea ;) how can i make it accessible to other users |
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| 20:59.13 | EdgEy | i can get into the folder, just there's nothing inside unless i'm root |
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| 20:59.20 | azeem | EdgEy: check the mount manpage for umask, AFAIK |
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| 20:59.28 | Seb | EdgEy: man mount, fmsdk, dmask |
| 20:59.34 | doleyb | EdgEy: put a line for it in /etc/fstab, including "users", then mount it as someone else |
| 20:59.37 | Seb | EdgEy: man mount -> fmask/dmask |
| 20:59.38 | djp | is it best to run aptitude with sudo? |
| 20:59.42 | prohna | okay i installed, wasnt sure what kinda video card is in my compaq so i picked vga |
| 20:59.43 | EdgEy | doleyb i think i did put users in fstab |
| 20:59.45 | EdgEy | let me check |
| 20:59.53 | prohna | it started but the resolution and color is all wacky |
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| 21:00.07 | Seb | prohna: use lspci to figure out what card you're using |
| 21:00.10 | doleyb | EdgEy: if you put it in fstab already, then umount it as root, log out as root, and then mount it again as a normal user |
| 21:00.15 | Seb | prohna: then reconfigure X accordingly |
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| 21:00.21 | uml | hi, where could i download pine to access newsgroups on linux? |
| 21:00.21 | LightVision | prohna: define whacy |
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| 21:00.37 | Seb | uml: you would use slrn, pine being evil ;) |
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| 21:01.09 | gratuit | has anyone gotten sound-jiucer to be able to rip to mp3? |
| 21:01.12 | uml | does slrn have a gui interface? |
| 21:01.15 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 21:01.17 | stew | yel: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 21:01.19 | Seb | EdgEy: stop listening to doleyb |
| 21:01.21 | gratuit | sound-juicer even |
| 21:01.26 | Seb | uml: no, a curses one, like pine |
| 21:01.29 | prohna | LightVision: the color isnt right, probably because has something to do with me telling debian VGA |
| 21:01.31 | yel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:01.36 | Seb | uml: for something GUI based, you prolly want thunderbird |
| 21:01.38 | LightVision | gratuit: why use sound juicer? |
| 21:01.40 | solemnwarning | everytime i reboot i have to reinstall the nvidia kernel module otherwise startx fails |
| 21:01.45 | solemnwarning | why is this? |
| 21:01.47 | LightVision | prohna: using vesa? |
| 21:01.49 | gratuit | LightVision: a nice gtk-interface |
| 21:01.54 | doleyb | Seb: why do you hate freedom? |
| 21:01.58 | pusling | is there a way to see what gcc I have used compiling my kernel ? |
| 21:02.01 | azeem | gratuit: mp3 encoders are not included in debian |
| 21:02.06 | Seb | doleyb: you're not answering his question, holmes |
| 21:02.08 | prohna | LightVision |
| 21:02.19 | prohna | LightVision: thats the option that was highlighted |
| 21:02.28 | Seb | prohna: why not do what I recommended ? |
| 21:02.29 | prohna | LightVision: but i didnt pick it should i have? |
| 21:02.37 | LightVision | gratuit: kaudioeditor has that too |
| 21:02.41 | prohna | Seb: i wrote it down the box is in the other room |
| 21:02.50 | Seb | k |
| 21:02.58 | LightVision | prohna: vesa will play everything slow and choppy |
| 21:03.06 | LightVision | prohna: whats your video card? |
| 21:03.08 | Seb | pusling: there is one, cannot remember it atm though |
| 21:03.25 | prohna | i dont know |
| 21:03.33 | prohna | what ever is in a standard compaq |
| 21:03.43 | Seb | l-s-p-c-i |
| 21:03.49 | LightVision | prohna: damn! you using comcrap? |
| 21:03.59 | prohna | LightVision: lol yea hand me down |
| 21:04.11 | LightVision | prohna: comcrap = rubbish, so please dont expect the best |
| 21:04.18 | prohna | i know |
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| 21:04.29 | LightVision | prohna: all the best wishes to you using that :) |
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| 21:04.35 | Seb | LightVision: proliant rings a bell ? |
| 21:04.36 | prohna | i know it should at the very least be able to function correctly |
| 21:04.50 | LightVision | Seb: what? |
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| 21:04.57 | Seb | prohna: it will, once you do what I said |
| 21:05.03 | eidolon | interesting. marillat doesn't have bladeenc either? |
| 21:05.03 | prohna | other thing was i tried to install xchat right away so i could just get help from that box |
| 21:05.06 | Seb | LightVision: have you heard of compaq proliant servers ? |
| 21:05.21 | prohna | but sudo apt-get xchat tells me my user name isnt in the sudoers file |
| 21:05.22 | Seb | eidolon: dev. was stopped, you can use lame |
| 21:05.29 | LightVision | prohna: you will get linux to run on compaq, but dont expect to make it run at peak performance and dont expect to be able to do any tweaking etc |
| 21:05.30 | Seb | prohna: su, then visudo |
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| 21:05.44 | cheal | pusling: $ cat /proc/version |
| 21:05.45 | Seb | LightVision: you're talking out of your ass |
| 21:05.51 | eidolon | lame is giginv gme an odd error from grip. |
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| 21:06.00 | pusling | cheal: thx |
| 21:06.03 | Seb | LightVision: as I pointed, the Proliant servers are some of the best to run linux on. |
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| 21:06.09 | eidolon | 'invalid encoder executable' 'check your encoder config' |
| 21:06.11 | prohna | Seb: su, then visudo? what do you mean |
| 21:06.14 | Seb | and I'm not asscoiated to compaq in any way |
| 21:06.23 | LightVision | Seb: thats personal opinion, not fact |
| 21:06.24 | Seb | prohna: su to root, then use visudo to add your name to the sudoers file |
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| 21:06.31 | caphuso | eidolon: did you check your encoder config? |
| 21:06.32 | EdgEy | ok, as root i did "mount -t ntfs -o ro,users /dev/hda5 /mnt/d"... and now as any other user, i still get an "only root can do that" error trying to mount, and now i can't dir/ls in /mnt/d at all |
| 21:06.33 | prohna | oh okay |
| 21:06.35 | LightVision | Seb: do you work for compaq? |
| 21:06.37 | eidolon | yes. |
| 21:06.38 | prohna | im really new to linux |
| 21:06.38 | Seb | LightVision: google it up for facts, but stop spreading bullshit around |
| 21:06.41 | EdgEy | :/ |
| 21:06.44 | Seb | LightVision: 14:06:34 Seb | and I'm not asscoiated to compaq in any way |
| 21:06.47 | prohna | only experience i have is with mandrake and it was already set up |
| 21:06.48 | robertbb | ahaha |
| 21:06.49 | robertbb | http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/240989_pdcmono16.html |
| 21:06.55 | prohna | so i couldnt even remember how to get to root |
| 21:07.00 | caphuso | EdgEy: man mount, read about the uid/gid/umask options |
| 21:07.19 | Seb | caphuso: good luck there |
| 21:07.24 | anibal | EdgEy, what are the permissions of /mnt/d? |
| 21:07.25 | malicia | Hi folks. I was wondering if someone could use a kernel patch that has an older patch-number than the kernel patch-number?( Like o say I have a patch that is labeled :MR.Patch 2.4.30-1: And I had a kernel 2.4.31).Uhm it's openMosix. So would it not work? Or should I get a kernel that matches it? |
| 21:07.31 | LightVision | Seb: thats your personal opinion that the Proliant servers are some of the best to run linux on. its opinion only, NOT fact! not 100% of experts in this field agree with you! And truth is never dependent on consensus of opinion |
| 21:07.34 | Seb | anibal: they are *irrelevant* |
| 21:07.49 | caphuso | Seb: you too ;-) |
| 21:07.55 | EdgEy | sorry :/ i'll read up on mount now |
| 21:07.56 | Seb | caphuso: haha :) |
| 21:07.56 | prohna | with that logic LightVision you are just as wrong as him |
| 21:07.57 | eidolon | oh that's annoying. youy have to put the full path to lame in the encoder config. |
| 21:07.59 | eidolon | bleah |
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| 21:08.29 | EdgEy | quite hard to read irc from terminal, everything seems more complicated haha |
| 21:08.30 | Seb | LightVision: my version of the truth is much closer to actual truth than "compaq is crap". Ask "linu xcompaq" to google, and see for yourself. Serious people have don eserious reviews. |
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| 21:08.35 | asg | malicia: you can try but there are no guarantees |
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| 21:08.43 | prohna | Seb: im gonna go try that ill brb |
| 21:08.44 | LightVision | Seb: just because many people disagree with your opinion, doesnt mean they are talking rubbish! your personal opinions are just that, personal opinions and not fact. and are you quaified in this field? |
| 21:09.03 | azeem | 23:00 < LightVision> prohna: comcrap = rubbish, so please dont expect the best |
| 21:09.14 | Seb | LightVision: yes I am qualified in this field, since you ask |
| 21:09.14 | LightVision | Seb: in MY opinion, Compaq = CRAP! and we all know you work for Compaq, so give it up :) |
| 21:09.26 | Seb | LightVision: right. Whatever. |
| 21:09.32 | malicia | asg: I see. : -) So it will be done. and if not I will get what it needs from kernel.org. |
| 21:09.54 | madero | if I load kernel framebuffer, Xserver (with ati drivers) crashes while loading |
| 21:10.06 | asg | malicia: right, even if the patch applies without error, it may not work. Some patches, however, are not as invasive and might work. YMMV. |
| 21:10.09 | LightVision | Seb: no need to deny it :) we all can tell by how you are very defensive, that you are affiliated in some way to Compaq, :) so give it up son ;) |
| 21:10.14 | Seb | LightVision: at least I was able to sorta substantiat emy claims, using the proliant servers as an example. You haven't. |
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| 21:10.29 | LightVision | Seb: thats personal opinion, not fact |
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| 21:10.48 | LightVision | Seb: And I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers! |
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| 21:11.20 | LightVision | Seb: here is my advice for you. Question and challenge EVERYTHING you hear and read for accuracy! and even then, realise your conclusions could be based on limited, incomplete and innacurate data and information. Your "reference source" that you are comparing your information with could be wrong. Hence, you come to wrong conclusions that you think is truth. |
| 21:11.28 | madero | It's possible to run console in framebuffer mode and Xserver with atidrivers at the same time? |
| 21:11.32 | malicia | asg: O I see. Well then I have allready compiled one that isn't matching... :-p hope it works... |
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| 21:12.02 | LightVision | Seb: are you Serbian? |
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| 21:12.36 | Yulia | hi... |
| 21:12.45 | madero | .... |
| 21:12.47 | madero | hi |
| 21:12.50 | Seb | sup Yulia |
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| 21:13.21 | Yulia | anyone can tell me how to do for enable key "final {" in keyboard instead of ç ?? |
| 21:13.32 | Yulia | i am not able to |
| 21:13.58 | asg | Yulia: did you consult #debian-es yet? |
| 21:14.35 | Yulia | asg, i did |
| 21:14.39 | Yulia | no help there |
| 21:15.02 | Yulia | just loadkeys es.kmap.gz with no success |
| 21:15.17 | Yulia | it is on console either X |
| 21:15.32 | LightVision | Seb: you display ego and stubborness like an old man from Serbia :) |
| 21:15.50 | djp | should i run aptitude as sudo? |
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| 21:16.13 | azeem | djp: if you want |
| 21:16.15 | LightVision | djp: I do |
| 21:16.18 | Seb | Yulia: what are you trying to achieve exactly ? |
| 21:16.24 | asg | djp: you can if you wish. It needs to run with equivalent root privileges however you runig. |
| 21:16.31 | asg | s/runig/run it/ |
| 21:16.41 | Yulia | i want to close { Seb |
| 21:16.43 | djp | cheers all |
| 21:16.53 | Yulia | the which one to close |
| 21:17.00 | asg | Seb: he needs to type '}' |
| 21:17.01 | LightVision | !cheers |
| 21:17.02 | dpkg | No Probs! |
| 21:17.06 | Yulia | asg, yes |
| 21:17.22 | LightVision | !hug Seb |
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| 21:17.40 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 21:17.43 | asg | !tell Yulia about keymap |
| 21:17.48 | asg | Yulia: that might help |
| 21:17.50 | LightVision | ozzloy: wb |
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| 21:17.59 | prohna | okay |
| 21:18.02 | yoo | somebody know how resolve this error |
| 21:18.03 | ozzloy | how do i get my usb camera automounted in debian? hi LightVision ! |
| 21:18.05 | solemnwarning | !kernal |
| 21:18.05 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
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| 21:18.11 | yoo | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified |
| 21:18.15 | prohna | how do i actually change the video card setting i picked in the install? |
| 21:18.17 | yoo | because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
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| 21:18.25 | asg | yoo: /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 21:18.30 | ozzloy | yoo, what are you doing to get that error? |
| 21:18.31 | Seb | prohna: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:18.46 | yoo | ozzloy, apt-get update |
| 21:19.07 | ozzloy | oh nevermind... yeah, asg has you covered |
| 21:20.12 | LightVision | ozzloy: im sorry I dont know about that. |
| 21:20.41 | ozzloy | i found it, apt-get usbmount looks like it'll do the trick |
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| 21:21.00 | LightVision | ozzloy: cool :) |
| 21:21.07 | azeem | ozzloy: GNOME and (probably KDE) do it automatically for you |
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| 21:22.54 | robin_sz | peem! |
| 21:23.18 | m0rtix | there is not dkpg |
| 21:23.26 | asg | !kick m0rtix |
| 21:23.30 | asg | m0rtix: yes there is |
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| 21:23.32 | m0rtix | for help about mass storage |
| 21:23.33 | m0rtix | ahh |
| 21:23.34 | m0rtix | yes |
| 21:23.35 | m0rtix | :P |
| 21:23.39 | ozzloy | azeem, it's not happening here. even after apt-get install usbmount |
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| 21:23.43 | m0rtix | asg, good exemple |
| 21:23.46 | asg | m0rtix: what type of 'mass storage' are you referring to? |
| 21:23.54 | m0rtix | key usb |
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| 21:24.00 | asg | m0rtix: /msg dpkg usb storage |
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| 21:24.06 | LightVision | ozzloy: reboot? |
| 21:24.07 | m0rtix | thx |
| 21:24.12 | asg | m0rtix: you're welcome |
| 21:24.44 | ozzloy | LightVision, maybe. probably restart some service or something, but i don't know what so i'll reboot |
| 21:24.56 | crashbg | someone just took the ip of my internal gateway, can i do somethin until i unplug him? some iptables rule to limit the lost packets caused by the changing packets? |
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| 21:25.24 | asg | crashbg: you could do some serious arpsoofing. Or just hit the person with a stick. |
| 21:25.25 | crashbg | *changing gw ip i meant... |
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| 21:25.42 | yel | stew, i did it but nothing works :s |
| 21:26.07 | crashbg | i think it's some king of a router and it's local ip address is appearing in my network |
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| 21:26.19 | crashbg | *kind, sorry |
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| 21:28.02 | mlopes | hi. does anyone know what to change to the NFS configuration so it can be accessible by another machine with iptables? |
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| 21:29.46 | solemnwarning | everytime i reboot i have to reinstall the nvidia kernel module otherwise startx fails |
| 21:29.48 | solemnwarning | why is this? |
| 21:30.04 | solemnwarning | modprobe loads it fine but i still need to remove it then install it again |
| 21:30.57 | solemnwarning | hello?? |
| 21:31.05 | azeem | solemnwarning: is it being loaded on bootup? |
| 21:31.09 | solemnwarning | yes |
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| 21:31.19 | solemnwarning | even if i manually modprobe it startx fails |
| 21:31.29 | solemnwarning | i have to remove the module and reinstall it |
| 21:31.35 | henke | solemnwarning, what does the log say? |
| 21:31.39 | ozzloy | no dice3. usb no mounting |
| 21:31.41 | solemnwarning | which log? |
| 21:31.51 | CosmoDad | I've added some users to an additional group. Is there a way to update each user's group affiliation without re-logging in? |
| 21:31.53 | ozzloy | which is the usb device? /dev/? |
| 21:32.14 | streuner | ozzloy: depends what you need... |
| 21:32.30 | streuner | ozzloy: mouse, usb storage? |
| 21:32.30 | ozzloy | streuner, digital camera "mass storage" device |
| 21:32.34 | solemnwarning | henke: which log? |
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| 21:32.56 | azeem | solemnwarning: /var/log/kern.log, for example |
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| 21:32.56 | henke | solemnwarning, well, using startx, it should show up on the console for you. |
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| 21:33.11 | streuner | ozzloy: if your camera support usb storage /dev/sda1 or such, run 'cdrecord -scanbus' or cat /proc/scsi/scsi |
| 21:33.40 | solemnwarning | shift+pgup wont work |
| 21:33.42 | solemnwarning | so i dont know |
| 21:33.55 | solemnwarning | has anyone else got problem of havint to reinstall nvidia? |
| 21:33.59 | azeem | solemnwarning: /var/log/X* |
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| 21:35.11 | solemnwarning | its not in log |
| 21:35.22 | solemnwarning | only startx is from several days ago |
| 21:35.30 | solemnwarning | argh |
| 21:35.43 | LightVision | ozzwhen I run freshclam I get this :WARNING: Local version: 0.86.2 Recommended version: 0.87. How can I update? |
| 21:35.56 | solemnwarning | why do working nvidia drivers have to be so hard under debian?? |
| 21:36.08 | prohna | okay i did dpkg-reconfigure and went through it all |
| 21:36.16 | cheal | solemnwarning: because they're non-free? |
| 21:36.21 | prohna | nothings different |
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| 21:36.28 | azeem | solemnwarning: there is no log, or there is nothing in the log? |
| 21:36.42 | solemnwarning | theres no recent entrys in log |
| 21:36.42 | prohna | when i open xchat the resolution is so off its too big to even see all of the buttons |
| 21:37.10 | LightVision | how do I update freshclam to version: 0.87? |
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| 21:37.41 | azeem | solemnwarning: but you started X recently? |
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| 21:37.57 | solemnwarning | today |
| 21:38.03 | timte | How do I find out what package /etc/mailname belongs to? |
| 21:38.04 | prohna | when i do lspci where does it say what kinda video card i HAVE or just what i picked during install? |
| 21:38.05 | solemnwarning | afer i reinstalled nvidia |
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| 21:38.31 | azeem | prohna: what you have |
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| 21:38.44 | prohna | okay cause after i did that |
| 21:38.48 | azeem | timte: dpkg -S /etc/mailname, in theory |
| 21:38.48 | SlayerXP | evening |
| 21:38.57 | azeem | timte: though I don't think it belongs to any |
| 21:39.01 | prohna | and did dpkg reconfigure it didnt help |
| 21:39.06 | timte | azeem: without installing it first |
| 21:39.09 | prohna | and changed the resolution and everything |
| 21:39.18 | azeem | timte: http://packages.debian.org |
| 21:39.19 | timte | azeem: oh, funny :) |
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| 21:39.37 | timte | azeem: yeah been there, but it doesnt find it |
| 21:39.44 | solemnwarning | does anyone else have the problem of having to reinstall nvidia on reboot? |
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| 21:40.38 | cheal | solemnwarning: show us a log of when startx fails |
| 21:40.46 | solemnwarning | i dont have one |
| 21:41.19 | SlayerXP | /kick m0rtix-BNC there's no way that you're so important that we need to know that you're not here |
| 21:41.22 | SlayerXP | oops |
| 21:41.23 | cheal | solemnwarning: you should. if you can't generate one, your system is broken |
| 21:41.35 | solemnwarning | howdo i generate log? |
| 21:41.43 | cheal | solemnwarning: by starting x |
| 21:41.54 | solemnwarning | ive already reinstalled nvidia |
| 21:42.06 | cheal | solemnwarning: reboot then? |
| 21:42.09 | solemnwarning | argh |
| 21:42.12 | solemnwarning | ffs |
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| 21:42.22 | solemnwarning | who made debian hate nvidia drivers?!? |
| 21:42.26 | azeem | solemnwarning: are you dunning xfree or xorg? |
| 21:42.29 | solemnwarning | xfree |
| 21:42.29 | cheal | solemnwarning: NVIDIA |
| 21:42.29 | azeem | eh, running |
| 21:42.50 | solemnwarning | ? |
| 21:42.51 | azeem | solemnwarning: and your /var/log/XFree86.0.log is several days old? |
| 21:42.57 | solemnwarning | yeah |
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| 21:43.35 | LightVision | is aegis a good virus scanner for Debian? |
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| 21:43.59 | SlayerXP | LightVision: i've never heard of it. |
| 21:44.06 | deadcat | how do i display the video output on the VGA output? i can see it on the laptop. but not on the external monitor. |
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| 21:44.20 | key2 | hi |
| 21:44.24 | azeem | deadcat: maybe you need to press a fn+key combination |
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| 21:44.34 | key2 | is there any Winamp like for linux (debian) |
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| 21:44.41 | lonewolff | key2: xmms |
| 21:44.47 | deadcat | key2: fn key for what? |
| 21:44.48 | Yikes- | Anybody here ever compiled glibc? |
| 21:44.51 | factor | how can you get a kernel to compile an ata driver in these days , it seems I cant boot to my root partition. |
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| 21:44.59 | azeem | Yikes-: that's not a reasonable question |
| 21:45.03 | SlayerXP | Yikes-: few people are that dumb |
| 21:45.04 | pem3v78 | deadcat: fn is a special blue/green key on laptops |
| 21:45.04 | azeem | Yikes-: what's the problem |
| 21:45.10 | yalgebra | how can install superadduser on debian please ? |
| 21:45.17 | factor | I have an nfoce chipset, but it is only available in module in the 2.6.8 kern |
| 21:45.19 | LightVision | SlayerXP: aegis is an anti virus scanner that is available on debian servers |
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| 21:45.30 | SlayerXP | yalgebra: apt-get install superadduser |
| 21:45.44 | SlayerXP | LightVision: i've still never heard of it# |
| 21:45.46 | deadcat | pem3v78: how will that help me with video? as in movie video |
| 21:45.53 | deadcat | yalgebra: apt-cache search |
| 21:45.56 | Yikes- | I am trying to compile a new version of libc6-i686 for Xen-based VPS. But it seems that I have to compile the whole glibc. |
| 21:45.59 | yalgebra | SlayerXP, E: Couldn't find package superadduser |
| 21:46.07 | SlayerXP | yalgebra: bad luck |
| 21:46.16 | osiris | hello people, id like to use debian on my laptop but i have no idea about how to set up a wireless card. any help would be really appreciated the card is a buffalo 54g (texas instruments) chipset |
| 21:46.18 | azeem | Yikes-: yikes |
| 21:46.19 | LightVision | SlayerXP: then again, you havent heard of everything available for Debian. |
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| 21:46.33 | LightVision | SlayerXP: are you a developer for Debian? |
| 21:46.37 | azeem | Yikes-: well, you probably have to. What did you expect instead? |
| 21:46.45 | SlayerXP | LightVision: nope. |
| 21:46.46 | pem3v78 | deadcat: this is general swichting between lcd and external output |
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| 21:47.01 | LightVision | SlayerXP: thats why you havent heard of everything that is available for Debian :) |
| 21:47.23 | Yikes- | The funny is... I just needed to compile with "-DNO_TLS_DIRECT_SEG_REFS" flag on gcc. |
| 21:47.43 | nksen | strange issue with mplayer. If I try to play a file "mplayer foo.avi" it it not possible to make it fullscreen. this is caused, due to starting mplayer 2 times, though I just hit the command one time. any ideas are welcome. |
| 21:47.46 | SlayerXP | LightVision: i don't recall making any judgements or claims to knowledge other than "I've never heard of it" wrt aegis AV |
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| 21:47.48 | pem3v78 | deadcat: are you taking about vga output or tv output ? |
| 21:47.50 | Yikes- | It's been compiling for a few hours now... and I'm not even sure if I added the flag correctly. |
| 21:48.09 | LightVision | SlayerXP: do you use ms xp? |
| 21:48.15 | deadcat | pem3v78: vga out. its gonna go to a projector in class |
| 21:48.24 | SmokinWeed_420 | http://www.planetbattleground.com/recruit.php?id=273 |
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| 21:48.28 | SlayerXP | LightVision: however given that I designed, build and sell smtp servers with AV capability, that's one area of knowledge I think I know more than most about |
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| 21:48.34 | pem3v78 | so definitly you got the press the buttons |
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| 21:48.49 | pem3v78 | this is the same as external monitor |
| 21:48.51 | LightVision | nksen: try this; mplayer -vo xv -cache 8192 foo.avi |
| 21:48.52 | SlayerXP | LightVision: see http://www.clues.ltd.uk/ |
| 21:49.02 | LightVision | SlayerXP: cool |
| 21:49.07 | factor | is it posible to boot to an ata drive without initrd? |
| 21:49.09 | LightVision | SlayerXP: ok |
| 21:49.12 | deadcat | pem3v78: fn and what key now? |
| 21:49.17 | azeem | Yikes-: the Debian package makes several passes |
| 21:49.23 | SlayerXP | LightVision: and, yes, right now I'm using Windows XP (home edition) service pack 2 |
| 21:49.31 | nksen | LightVision: -vo xv works. why the hell does it not use xv as default? :/ |
| 21:49.32 | LightVision | nksen: did it work? |
| 21:49.34 | SlayerXP | thankyou for your inquiry. |
| 21:49.35 | Yikes- | azeem: Ah, is that what it's doing... :-) |
| 21:49.39 | LightVision | SlayerXP: why would you xp? |
| 21:49.48 | ozzloy | streuner, cdrecord gave an error, cat gave me http://channels.debian.net/paste/729?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21 |
| 21:49.51 | nksen | LightVision: anyway, thx a lot you really helped me out! |
| 21:49.52 | LightVision | nksen: its a mystery :) |
| 21:50.02 | pem3v78 | you should have about 8 blue buttons, press the screen :) |
| 21:50.04 | LightVision | nksen: love to help anytime |
| 21:50.05 | SlayerXP | LightVision: because my wife would go ballistic if I nuked her laptop, I suspect |
| 21:50.15 | azeem | Yikes-: I wouldn't try to outsmart the build system, it's pretty complicated |
| 21:50.18 | LightVision | SlayerXP: hehe ;) get a new wife, a linux chick :) |
| 21:50.38 | azeem | Yikes-: a build log is being kept in the same dir debian/ is in, you could check that whether your flags are set correctly |
| 21:50.44 | streuner | ozzloy: ok, just use 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mountpoint' then |
| 21:50.45 | deadcat | pem3v78: i can use -vo x11, but it lags. xv dont but xv is blank |
| 21:50.54 | Yikes- | I pulled the glibc source using apt-build, then edited debian/rules to add the '-DNO_TLS_DIRECT_SEG_REFS' flag to BUILD_CFLAGS... |
| 21:51.18 | azeem | Yikes-: sounds reasonable, but I don't know for sure |
| 21:52.03 | SlayerXP | LightVision: I use clam at the smtp layer and f-prot on the desktop for all my anti-virus needs |
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| 21:52.05 | azeem | Yikes-: grep -DNO_TLS_DIRECT_SEG_REFS log-build-i486-linux-libc should tell you |
| 21:52.06 | Yikes- | azeem: I'm using 'script' to capture the compiling progress into anothe file, and grep 'TLS_DIRECT' from the log file. So far, it doesn't seem to get passed to a lot of files. |
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| 21:52.23 | azeem | Yikes-: but to some? |
| 21:52.29 | ozzloy | streuner coolly.. just did it and came back here and saw your confirmation. how do i get this to happen auto-magically? |
| 21:52.54 | solemnwarning | how can i make nvidia work normally under deb? |
| 21:53.02 | Yikes- | azeem: yeah, it's weird... I can see the 'gcc' statements fly by, but almost none has the '-DNO_TLS_DIRECT_SEG_REFS' flags. |
| 21:53.03 | LightVision | SlayerXP: fprot for linux? |
| 21:53.14 | SlayerXP | LightVision: and windows. |
| 21:53.20 | ozzloy | umount /media/usb says the device is busy... how do i find out what's using it? |
| 21:53.30 | osiris | hi im thinking of using debian on my laptop but i have a wireless network card, i am familiar with linux but i have no idea how to install the card, the card is a buffalo 54g pcmicia card with a texas instruments chipset, any help would be much appreciated |
| 21:53.37 | ozzloy | i'm no longer in the directory |
| 21:53.41 | SlayerXP | ozzloy: fuser or lsof |
| 21:53.41 | solemnwarning | how can i make nvidia work normally under deb? |
| 21:53.41 | LightVision | SlayerXP: is fprot available for Sarge? |
| 21:53.48 | azeem | Yikes-: well, if some have, it should be fine |
| 21:53.54 | timte | Does postfix use /etc/mailname ? |
| 21:54.08 | azeem | Yikes-: the guy who wrote the glibc build system also wrote GNU make, so he probably knew what he did... |
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| 21:54.19 | Yikes- | azeem: I hope so... I hate to recompile after a few hours of this. :-) |
| 21:54.19 | gaasfet | why is there not a colonel-sauce for 2.6.11 ?? ?? |
| 21:54.28 | LightVision | solemnwarning: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:54.30 | azeem | Yikes-: undestandable :) |
| 21:54.34 | azeem | understandable, even |
| 21:54.46 | ozzloy | thanx SlayerXP |
| 21:54.47 | solemnwarning | ARGH |
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| 21:55.00 | solemnwarning | x conf is fine |
| 21:55.03 | SlayerXP | LightVision: no idea. |
| 21:55.16 | solemnwarning | but i need to reinstall the nvidia module on every reboot |
| 21:55.26 | LightVision | SlayerXP: I thought you said you ise fprot on linux! no? |
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| 21:56.00 | SlayerXP | LightVision: yes. it comes with its own non-distro-specific installer. |
| 21:56.14 | Yikes- | azeem: thanks for listening.. :-) |
| 21:56.15 | LightVision | SlayerXP: where can I get that? |
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| 21:56.24 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: what x server? xorg or xfree ?? |
| 21:56.31 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: waht kernel ? |
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| 21:56.44 | solemnwarning | xfree |
| 21:56.47 | solemnwarning | 2.6.13.1 |
| 21:56.56 | luisencar | alguien español |
| 21:57.10 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: vanilla kernel |
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| 21:57.16 | solemnwarning | what? |
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| 21:57.29 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: the NVidia scripeted drivers should work |
| 21:57.37 | solemnwarning | erm, what? |
| 21:57.43 | solemnwarning | im confused |
| 21:57.52 | valdyn | solemnwarning: echo nvidia >> /etc/modules |
| 21:57.53 | SlayerXP | f-prot-installer - F-Prot(tm) Antivirus installer package |
| 21:57.54 | azeem | luisencar: #debian-es |
| 21:58.04 | SlayerXP | LightVision: http://www.f-prot.com/ |
| 21:58.09 | solemnwarning | valdyn: I NEED REINSTALL NOT LOAD |
| 21:58.11 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: you did not get the kernel from the debian repository? |
| 21:58.15 | LightVision | SlayerXP: ty |
| 21:58.15 | solemnwarning | no |
| 21:58.21 | valdyn | solemnwarning: so? |
| 21:58.21 | solemnwarning | deb never has up to date kernel |
| 21:58.28 | LightVision | solemnwarning: relax, or you will get a stroke |
| 21:58.31 | valdyn | solemnwarning: what do you think reinstall does? |
| 21:58.35 | solemnwarning | ern |
| 21:58.49 | solemnwarning | even if i manually modprobe it then startx it fails |
| 21:59.03 | solemnwarning | and its configured to load at boot anyway |
| 21:59.16 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: did you use the drivers from ftp.nvidia.com ?? |
| 21:59.21 | solemnwarning | no |
| 21:59.21 | theD3viL | for what is "start feedback" ? |
| 21:59.34 | SlayerXP | nvidia and ati should be thoroughly ashamed of the state of their support for linux these days |
| 21:59.36 | azeem | theD3viL: hmm? |
| 21:59.37 | solemnwarning | gaasfet: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
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| 21:59.57 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 21:59.58 | dpkg | i heard nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 21:59.59 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: not a trusted source to mr |
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| 22:00.04 | gaasfet | me |
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| 22:00.31 | solemnwarning | so how should i install? |
| 22:00.44 | theD3viL | azeem, what is wrong? when i start programm, programm wants to open twice? |
| 22:00.49 | solemnwarning | according to dpkg drivers from nvidia.com dont work under deb |
| 22:01.01 | gaasfet | valdyn: the one-liner does not work with x.org |
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| 22:01.17 | valdyn | gaasfet: works for me on xorg |
| 22:01.18 | azeem | theD3viL: sorry, no idea what you are talking about |
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| 22:01.28 | anthony | Hey |
| 22:01.30 | anthony | Can someone help me? |
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| 22:01.34 | anthony | Im trying to add an ip to a box |
| 22:01.43 | anthony | It keeps trying to use DHCP though I dont know why |
| 22:01.48 | anthony | can someone help me add the ip address? |
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| 22:02.01 | azeem | anthony: edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:02.03 | solemnwarning | gaasfet: how do you install nvidia? |
| 22:02.04 | fbi | anthony: man interfaces |
| 22:02.05 | valdyn | gaasfet: what should change except changing the dpkg-reconfigure command? |
| 22:02.08 | theD3viL | azeem, double click programm (icon on desktop) and programm starts, and wants to start twice..just cursor and icon of programm |
| 22:02.16 | SlayerXP | anthony: did you stop the dhcp client? |
| 22:02.17 | anthony | im in a rush |
| 22:02.20 | anthony | any help would be appreciated |
| 22:02.33 | anthony | hm |
| 22:02.36 | anthony | no |
| 22:02.37 | anthony | I didnt |
| 22:02.39 | anthony | how do I? |
| 22:02.45 | anthony | and what do i put in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 22:02.48 | fbi | dude, you were just told what file to look at |
| 22:02.59 | gaasfet | valdyn: the one-liner would have to be edited of course, and importantly, Nvidia's own installer breaks some debian conventions |
| 22:02.59 | deadcat | dont help him.. hes in a rush. !! (= |
| 22:03.02 | SlayerXP | anthony: err, you're in a hurry, so you've decided that doing any kind of thinking is not a viable solution to your problem? |
| 22:03.10 | anthony | well |
| 22:03.12 | anthony | im willing to think |
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| 22:03.16 | anthony | im just at a datacenter |
| 22:03.19 | anthony | and my mom is sick |
| 22:03.20 | anthony | ;/ |
| 22:03.20 | SlayerXP | anthony: sorry, I can't help you, I'm in a rush. |
| 22:03.20 | yalgebra | please guys im really confused with this how should i set my source.list ( using apt-setup) or is there an other way doing that ? i get each time im trying to install some stuff package not availble :s |
| 22:03.34 | anthony | arghh |
| 22:03.35 | anthony | okat |
| 22:03.39 | anthony | I will be back in a few minutes |
| 22:03.41 | valdyn | gaasfet: hmm? what has that one-liner to do with nvidias own installer? |
| 22:03.44 | anthony | I wont be in a rush then |
| 22:03.45 | anthony | Heh ;) |
| 22:03.49 | fbi | stop using enter as your spacebar. |
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| 22:03.53 | SlayerXP | anthony: which idiot let someone who hasn't a Scooby into a datacentre? |
| 22:04.10 | dannyp | is there an easy way (as in, without rewriting my rules) to see how many times a given iptables rule has been matched? |
| 22:04.17 | gaasfet | valdyn: the NVidia installer contains an uninstaller that has to be used first |
| 22:04.54 | gaasfet | valdyn: the script does nothing if Nvidia's own installer has beeen applied |
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| 22:05.09 | gaasfet | the one-liner I mean |
| 22:05.26 | valdyn | gaasfet: it does nothing in w/o X either or in redhat, its not the holy grail either ;) |
| 22:05.31 | ubuntu | hola |
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| 22:06.12 | gaasfet | valdyn: nor does it speak german |
| 22:06.18 | Yikes- | azeem: arg... just found another CFLAGS (HOST_CFLAGS), so I have to add '-DNO_TLS_DIRECT_SEG_REFS' to it and restart. :-( |
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| 22:06.56 | azeem | Yikes-: are you sure that define isn't controlled by some configure flag? |
| 22:07.03 | xsdg | did marillat's stuff move again? (I read the factoid; just wondering if I should keep the nerim one around) |
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| 22:07.53 | Yikes- | azeem: Hm... no, I'm not sure. The documentation on compiling glibc is 'sketchy'. :-) |
| 22:08.06 | valdyn | !marillat |
| 22:08.06 | dpkg | i guess marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 22:08.27 | valdyn | xsdg: nope didnt move |
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| 22:08.58 | scuffe | Is sid eventhough unstable that much better than sarge? |
| 22:09.10 | azeem | scuffe: depends on your use-case |
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| 22:09.11 | valdyn | scuffe: who sais its better at all? |
| 22:09.19 | caphuso | stupid people do |
| 22:09.28 | xsdg | valdyn: well, I get a 404 with the one that was in my sources |
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| 22:09.49 | valdyn | xsdg: change 'stable' to 'sarge', release state to codename.. |
| 22:10.07 | xsdg | (referring to caphuso's statement) |
| 22:10.09 | factor | my SCSI drive died and I installed debian netinst. but when I try to recompile the kenrel and boot I get a Kernel Panic. why would this be... I dont have initrd hooks in it that I know of. |
| 22:10.16 | nksen | is there any need to configure alsa on debian? I just did a fresh sarge install and the sound works quite fine |
| 22:10.20 | factor | I am trying to install on an ata now. |
| 22:10.40 | factor | SCSi had always worked fine. not the NForce ata now though |
| 22:10.48 | SlayerXP | factor: you forgot to include support fot your root file system or the type of device your root fs is located on |
| 22:10.56 | SlayerXP | for your |
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| 22:11.08 | factor | I did but it is only in module form |
| 22:11.13 | factor | M |
| 22:11.14 | SlayerXP | or you did, but you included them as modules |
| 22:11.15 | factor | not * |
| 22:11.18 | SlayerXP | there you go then |
| 22:11.28 | factor | it wont let me do a * |
| 22:11.33 | azeem | Yikes-: |
| 22:11.34 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.34 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.35 | factor | can I force it to? |
| 22:11.58 | SlayerXP | factor: i don't believe you |
| 22:12.19 | Yikes- | azeem: so either '-DNO_TLS_DIRECT_SEG_REFS' or '-mno-tls-direct-seg-refs'? |
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| 22:12.53 | gaasfet | is it spelled Colonel-Sauce or Kernel-source ? |
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| 22:12.56 | azeem | hrm |
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| 22:13.16 | xsdg | gaasfet: :o) |
| 22:14.09 | yoo | somebody know where i can put this option in apt ? |
| 22:14.09 | yoo | APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true"; |
| 22:14.20 | caphuso | yoo: man apt.conf |
| 22:14.23 | yoo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:14.32 | scuffe | so how many people here are running sid? |
| 22:14.39 | xsdg | ooh! me!!! |
| 22:14.43 | Yikes- | azeem: Hm... maybe I should do both to be safe? :-) |
| 22:15.02 | factor | the ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support will compile in at the top of the ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support section but not the AMD and nVidia IDE support option. |
| 22:15.19 | factor | which the later is what I need compiled in. |
| 22:15.22 | scuffe | right now i have sid but i'm thinking about going back to sarge |
| 22:15.28 | xsdg | factor: does it let you compile it in for another driver? |
| 22:15.28 | factor | just M or no M |
| 22:15.42 | factor | nope |
| 22:15.44 | xsdg | scuffe: sarge? not etch? |
| 22:15.50 | SlayerXP | factor: then you have set an "M" in a layer above |
| 22:15.55 | scuffe | what's etch? |
| 22:15.59 | xsdg | scuffe: testing |
| 22:16.02 | azeem | Yikes-: -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs should be enough I guess, but yeah, maybe |
| 22:16.21 | SlayerXP | factor: i.e. if you have A->B->C and B is set M, then C will only be available as M too |
| 22:16.22 | factor | SlayerXP:layer above? |
| 22:16.32 | scuffe | how well does etch run? |
| 22:16.40 | xsdg | scuffe: I dunno; I use SID :o) |
| 22:16.42 | factor | SlayerXP:hum |
| 22:16.44 | SlayerXP | scuffe: this well <-----> (not to scale) |
| 22:17.04 | factor | YE HAWWW! |
| 22:17.12 | factor | SlayerXP:thanks thats it |
| 22:17.19 | factor | it was another option I had to check. |
| 22:17.24 | factor | not like it told me . |
| 22:17.33 | factor | I just randomly had to check and uncheck stuff. |
| 22:17.35 | factor | thanks |
| 22:17.37 | gaasfet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.04 | scuffe | i've been messing around with e17 and have been having issues with compiling some of the modules, hense the thought to change |
| 22:18.21 | HyperStream | hey ive just used http://easyfwgen.morizot.net to make a iptables script , since ive jjust recently needed to open more ports, how do i go about updateing it . what command am i looking to use |
| 22:18.25 | gaasfet | scuffe: always testing |
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| 22:18.57 | gaasfet | scuffe: some stuff not available, like cinelerra |
| 22:19.14 | scuffe | what's cinelerra? |
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| 22:19.49 | gaasfet | scuffe: then you won't miss it |
| 22:20.06 | scuffe | ah... |
| 22:20.23 | gaasfet | scuffe: its "google cinelerra" , its faster |
| 22:20.30 | scuffe | already there |
| 22:20.38 | gaasfet | :) |
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| 22:20.50 | solemnwarning | now x wont start |
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| 22:21.03 | solemnwarning | and some remove the +q on root!*@* |
| 22:21.23 | SlayerXP | solemnwarning: you can't make me |
| 22:21.35 | solemnwarning | im getting some crap about x module version not matching module version |
| 22:21.36 | SlayerXP | *thptptptpt* *taunt* |
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| 22:21.54 | scuffe | on my laptop cinelerra would be as bad a quake on a 486.... |
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| 22:22.38 | solemnwarning | how can i make debian accept nvidia? |
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| 22:22.46 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: did you do the one-liner |
| 22:22.48 | gaasfet | ? |
| 22:22.50 | solemnwarning | YES |
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| 22:23.55 | solemnwarning | what do i do now? |
| 22:24.12 | zerve_the_death | i have a problem too solemnwarning |
| 22:24.18 | solemnwarning | buy a non nvidia card since deb is the only distro that nvidia breaks on? |
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| 22:24.45 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: can you start x with "nv" instead of "nvidia" |
| 22:24.54 | solemnwarning | probably |
| 22:25.04 | solemnwarning | but that driver supports very little |
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| 22:25.08 | gaasfet | nvidia rocks on Linux |
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| 22:25.14 | gaasfet | even debian |
| 22:25.18 | solemnwarning | why cant debian just accept the damm nvidia driver? |
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| 22:25.49 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: did you try the installer from Nvidia.com ? |
| 22:25.50 | DoppelGanger | ha ha |
| 22:25.52 | zerve_the_death | white screen problem here |
| 22:25.54 | solemnwarning | yes |
| 22:25.56 | factor | yeah the nvidea stuff is really good. I get some good speeds out of it. I wish they merged the source code into thte kernel though. |
| 22:26.03 | solemnwarning | ive tried official and one-liner |
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| 22:26.18 | factor | I hate having to recompile every time I boot into a diff kernel. |
| 22:26.23 | factor | just to get X |
| 22:26.30 | Ryushin | Is udev a all or nothing thing? I'm starting alsa, but it doesn't make a /dev/dsp device. udev is new to me and I'm not sure if I like it yet. I'm use to a static /dev directory. |
| 22:26.37 | solemnwarning | and now i have some crap about module versions not matching |
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| 22:27.08 | solemnwarning | Ryushin: alsa does not make /dev/dsp |
| 22:27.17 | factor | gaasfet:did you download the drivers for nvida? |
| 22:27.18 | solemnwarning | thats an OSS thing, not alsa |
| 22:27.19 | Blissex | Ryushin: you need the ALSA OSS compatibility modules too |
| 22:27.41 | Blissex | Ryushin: if you want OSS compatible devices that is. |
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| 22:27.43 | Ryushin | Yea, I compiled those as well. |
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| 22:27.51 | Blissex | Ryushin: all the terrifying details here: http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 |
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| 22:28.01 | Ryushin | Eeck! |
| 22:28.06 | gaasfet | factor: I had problem with debian-2.6.11 + xorg + nvidia |
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| 22:28.22 | solemnwarning | gaasfet: how did you setup nvidia drivers to actually work under debian? |
| 22:28.23 | gaasfet | factor: but I got it running fine now |
| 22:28.27 | factor | not to mention all my sound stuff works on debian 3.1 bu default. they did a good job on setting up al the goodies. |
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| 22:29.19 | gaasfet | factor: solemnwarning the first key thing was to use the nvidia uninstaller since I always used the Nvidia's original driver |
| 22:29.19 | solemnwarning | gaasfet?? |
| 22:29.20 | factor | my setup under debian with nvidea worked fine. I end up having it recompile each time, but that is ok it works well. |
| 22:29.21 | m2 | solemnwarning: if you state youur problem beyond "it doesn't work" someone will be able to help. |
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| 22:29.56 | solemnwarning | gaasfet: nvidia uninstaller? |
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| 22:30.14 | gaasfet | factor: the problem with debian 2.6.11 is that I could not find the kernel-source for it |
| 22:30.20 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: yes |
| 22:30.24 | solemnwarning | where? |
| 22:30.40 | factor | I am finding that the gcc and later kernels are not jibing very well. |
| 22:30.43 | gaasfet | http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 22:30.55 | solemnwarning | erm |
| 22:30.59 | solemnwarning | i cant open an url |
| 22:31.05 | factor | latest gcc . I had to downgrade to an older version |
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| 22:31.23 | solemnwarning | how do i uninstall? |
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| 22:31.41 | factor | uninstal what? |
| 22:31.42 | m2 | solemnwarning: how did you install? |
| 22:31.49 | factor | ahh |
| 22:31.55 | solemnwarning | nvidia installer and nvidia ome-liner |
| 22:31.56 | factor | reading url |
| 22:31.58 | solemnwarning | tried both |
| 22:32.07 | m2 | solemnwarning: see, that's your problem! |
| 22:32.15 | solemnwarning | gaasfet: how do you uninstall? |
| 22:32.21 | ruipb | g night all |
| 22:32.25 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: nvidia-installer --uninstall |
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| 22:32.30 | factor | it will uninstall automatically, dont do it manually it will fsck up its mind. |
| 22:32.33 | solemnwarning | m2: i tried with only one-liner and i needed to reinstall every boot |
| 22:32.41 | cheal | solemnwarning: yes, debian "is the only distro that nvidia breaks on". NVIDIA would be perfect otherwise |
| 22:32.48 | cheal | solemnwarning: you can try windows too |
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| 22:32.49 | solemnwarning | k |
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| 22:32.53 | factor | I made a mess when I tried it manually |
| 22:32.55 | solemnwarning | gotta quit to remove |
| 22:32.57 | malicia | Hi there (again) - One thing if I had a server that is connected to a router(ADSL-using DHCP) and the server is also connected to the and I wanted to connect to the web via the PCS connected to the server how can I do it? I have tried this on the clients ( route add default /*server==192.168.1.1*/ gw 192.1681.1) and it didn't work- what should I do? |
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| 22:33.04 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: the Nvidia install and the Debian fight each other |
| 22:33.09 | factor | but then I ran it and it uninstalled when I had a newer version. |
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| 22:33.33 | malicia | I'm a error Typo server is conected to the LAN |
| 22:33.35 | malicia | :p |
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| 22:33.58 | m2 | solemnwarning: rm /usr/lib/libGL.* /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.* /usr/lib/libGLcore.* /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.* |
| 22:33.59 | factor | ok going to try to reboot so it will use the nforce mb brb |
| 22:34.10 | cheal | m2: he's not there anymore |
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| 22:34.17 | m2 | bah. |
| 22:34.35 | henke | malicia, you will have to set up NAT on the server. |
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| 22:35.45 | malicia | henke: Oh...why is that? |
| 22:35.50 | dogmeat | can i mount an ftp site? |
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| 22:36.38 | m2 | dogmeat: apt-get install fuse-source fuse-utils |
| 22:36.53 | malicia | Okay so I will learn NAT : ) ! it will be done... |
| 22:36.55 | dogmeat | m2: i thought nfs would work |
| 22:37.40 | m2 | dogmeat: if the ftp server exports an NFS filesystem, sure. Most nowadays don't. |
| 22:37.44 | henke | malicia, the clients connecting through the server need to have their packet's adresses translated |
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| 22:39.04 | malicia | henke : I see.. well then - back to the Howto's... chii.... |
| 22:39.21 | henke | malicia, good luck :) |
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| 22:41.39 | CosmoDad | is there a regular timespan after which unstable packages will go into testing? |
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| 22:42.03 | cheal | CosmoDad: more or less. it depends on the upload's urgency, for one thing |
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| 22:42.15 | cheal | it's more less than than more |
| 22:42.27 | m2 | CosmoDad: in principle after 10 days. There's a lot of stuff that can change that. |
| 22:42.41 | AbsolutZer0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.46 | solemnwarning | #ive uninstalled the nvidia module compltly and installed one-liner, still wont startx |
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| 22:43.01 | AbsolutZer0 | I have a question concerning TelnetD |
| 22:43.01 | solemnwarning | what should i do now?? |
| 22:43.02 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, do us a favor: |
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| 22:43.10 | m2 | solemnwarning: see, that's your problem! |
| 22:43.30 | CosmoDad | ok... asked because easytag unstable solves a bug but installing into into my testing system results into k3b being kicked |
| 22:43.35 | wishie | was sysv updated recently ? bootsplash patches for /etc/init.d/rc and rcS no longer seem to apply cleanly.. |
| 22:43.36 | CosmoDad | so I'll just sit and wait here.. |
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| 22:44.03 | m2 | solemnwarning: rm /usr/lib/libGL.* /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.* /usr/lib/libGLcore.* /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.* |
| 22:44.09 | azeem | wishie: during the last couple of weeks, yes, IIRC |
| 22:44.14 | m2 | solemnwarning: do that please |
| 22:44.16 | solemnwarning | ok |
| 22:44.19 | solemnwarning | hold on |
| 22:44.22 | AbsolutZer0 | Every time I try to start the Telnet Daemon (telnetd) I get a socket error |
| 22:44.26 | wishie | azeem: was the update anything important ? |
| 22:44.47 | us | Is the new security for "testing" automatic in upgrades or does one have to change repositores? |
| 22:44.51 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 22:44.54 | azeem | wishie: it had a pretty long changelog, but dunno about importance |
| 22:44.59 | AbsolutZer0 | tel;netd: getpeername: Socket opertaion on non socket |
| 22:45.30 | AbsolutZer0 | does that mean anything to anyone? |
| 22:45.36 | wishie | azeem: where can i find this changelog ? (sorry for being a pain) but i just want to check if i _need_ this new sysv, or not, cause i want my patches to apply still |
| 22:45.50 | azeem | packages.debian.org/sysvinit |
| 22:45.57 | wishie | thanks |
| 22:46.04 | azeem | there's a link to the changelog on the respective distribution pages |
| 22:46.21 | AbsolutZer0 | hello? |
| 22:46.35 | AbsolutZer0 | Is my message getting into the chat room lol, I am on console |
| 22:46.40 | webfreak | ... |
| 22:46.40 | azeem | AbsolutZer0: yes |
| 22:46.51 | AbsolutZer0 | Thank for the confrim Azeem |
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| 22:47.24 | azeem | us: google for debian testing-security, I think they have a comprehensive webpage with the details |
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| 22:49.04 | AbsolutZer0 | anywho... does this "telnetd: getpeername: socket operation on non socket mean anything to anyone? |
| 22:49.21 | AbsolutZer0 | I have tried reinstalling the package but it's still won't start |
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| 22:50.34 | azeem | AbsolutZer0: try running it with strace and see which node it tries to operate on |
| 22:50.40 | solemnwarning | deleting those files made startx work |
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| 22:50.52 | solemnwarning | but i still need to remove and reinstall the module on reboot |
| 22:50.53 | AbsolutZer0 | k |
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| 22:51.03 | AbsolutZer0 | how do i run it with strace? |
| 22:51.19 | scarynetworkguy | AbsolutZer0: It means that the verse hates people who try to run telentd and that you should use ssh. |
| 22:51.32 | AbsolutZer0 | lol |
| 22:51.36 | m2 | solemnwarning: patience... |
| 22:51.43 | AbsolutZer0 | I understand |
| 22:51.53 | AbsolutZer0 | I am using the telnet server for my LAN only |
| 22:52.07 | LightVision | solemnwarning: you come across as very impatient and anxious. pls relax, or you will get a stroke |
| 22:52.11 | AbsolutZer0 | Okay I ran strace in.telnetd and it gave me a dump |
| 22:52.15 | solemnwarning | STFU |
| 22:52.17 | AbsolutZer0 | what am i looking for? |
| 22:52.17 | wishie | ok, seems this 'parallel' startup in sysv-rc is what breaks the bootsplash patches.. oh well, im sure they'll get updated, eventually. |
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| 22:52.37 | azeem | AbsolutZer0: the error message, and accompaninying suspicious entries |
| 22:52.39 | m2 | solemnwarning: now do this (and don't restart yet!): cd /usr/share/doc/ ; apt-get remove nvidia* |
| 22:52.39 | solemnwarning | IVE BEEN TRYING TO GET DEB TO ACTUALLY USE NVIDIA NORMALLY FOR 3HOURS NOW |
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| 22:52.42 | AbsolutZer0 | okay |
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| 22:52.45 | AbsolutZer0 | I see thre node |
| 22:53.05 | AbsolutZer0 | the node is "DeadHead" which is my computer name |
| 22:53.26 | LightVision | solemnwarning: DONT forget, people here DONT GET PAID to help! its 100% voluntary, so please be kind! people do their best, but they cant help a person OUT OF CONTROL and someone who doesnt listen |
| 22:53.39 | solemnwarning | m2: done |
| 22:53.42 | AbsolutZer0 | should I change the node to an IP adress? or localhost? |
| 22:53.53 | wishie | using the nvidia drivers the 'debian way' is more of a pain than anything else. i just download an run the nvidia installer, and everything works fine. |
| 22:54.04 | LightVision | wishie: well done :) |
| 22:54.06 | solemnwarning | nope |
| 22:54.14 | cheal | solemnwarning: wow. you do realize that some of us spent tens of hours on this and didn't get any help from the channel, right? |
| 22:54.17 | solemnwarning | someone made debian wreck nvidia |
| 22:54.28 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, now: apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-gl-dev |
| 22:54.29 | cheal | solemnwarning: yes. now go back to windows |
| 22:54.36 | m2 | wishie: *sush* |
| 22:54.46 | solemnwarning | cheal: stfu you go back to windows |
| 22:54.51 | azeem | AbsolutZer0: dunno |
| 22:54.58 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: look for the tab with my nick |
| 22:55.03 | AbsolutZer0 | Azeem? I tried canginf the hostname using 'hostname localhost' yet my prompt still says user@DeadHead |
| 22:55.13 | scarynetworkguy | AbsolutZer0: So why would you struggle with telentd as opposed to just installing SSH which will almost certainly "just work" in particular because "it's just on my LAN" is the *wrong* answer? |
| 22:55.15 | solemnwarning | gaasfet: ? |
| 22:55.15 | LightVision | solemnwarning: I dont think linux is for you! linux is for people with patience and a maturity and desire to test, experiment, get errors, and keep going and being persistent! I dont feel you have any of these character strengths |
| 22:55.27 | azeem | AbsolutZer0: uhm, don't change your hostname because of that |
| 22:55.32 | cheal | solemnwarning: *i* solved my problem, without losing reason on the channel |
| 22:55.40 | LightVision | cheal: well said! |
| 22:55.41 | azeem | and anyway, you'll see it on the next login the earliest |
| 22:55.52 | solemnwarning | m2: dnoe |
| 22:55.55 | solemnwarning | *done |
| 22:55.55 | scarynetworkguy | AbsolutZer0: Seriouls all joking aside ssh just works but because nobody with a clue uses it telentd tends to have problems one way just makes sense the other does'nt. |
| 22:55.57 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: can you get X to run with nv ? |
| 22:56.01 | solemnwarning | yes |
| 22:56.10 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: Ok |
| 22:56.12 | solemnwarning | but supports barly anything |
| 22:56.27 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, now edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and look for a line that says: Driver "nvidia" |
| 22:56.30 | AbsolutZer0 | hmm, maybe I should just install SSH |
| 22:56.36 | m2 | solemnwarning: change that to: Driver "nv" |
| 22:56.38 | azeem | AbsolutZer0: good choice |
| 22:56.38 | jbroome | you think? |
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| 22:56.46 | solemnwarning | WHAT?? |
| 22:57.01 | AbsolutZer0 | SSH, is it extensible as telnet? |
| 22:57.03 | kingtux | How do i get kernel src..../usr/src/linux |
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| 22:57.06 | cheal | m2: please don't recommend people to manually edit X config |
| 22:57.07 | scarynetworkguy | AbsolutZer0: Much more. |
| 22:57.13 | m2 | solemnwarning: I'm trying to give you a working x server before installing the nvidia driver. please bear with me. |
| 22:57.13 | solemnwarning | debian does not support nvidia working like its supposed to? |
| 22:57.15 | kingtux | what is the package |
| 22:57.21 | solemnwarning | i have x up now |
| 22:57.24 | gaasfet | solemnwarning: did you edit the config file ? |
| 22:57.25 | m2 | cheal: *shush* you, too. |
| 22:57.27 | AbsolutZer0 | and it allows user to logion remotley and utilize programs on the SSH server? |
| 22:57.32 | solemnwarning | switching to nv...... |
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| 22:57.41 | cheal | kingtux: kernel-source-foo, or linux-source-foo |
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| 22:57.42 | AbsolutZer0 | such as GCC and Nethack? |
| 22:57.51 | caphuso | such as anything |
| 22:57.58 | AbsolutZer0 | hmm |
| 22:58.00 | solemnwarning | done |
| 22:58.00 | kingtux | that gives me the C header files right |
| 22:58.01 | kingtux | that |
| 22:58.16 | scarynetworkguy | AbsolutZer0: That's not telentd. That's the telnet client which you already have. Two different things. |
| 22:58.20 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, now your X server should start up without any hardware acceleration for OpenGL. |
| 22:58.33 | AbsolutZer0 | well |
| 22:58.37 | solemnwarning | now what? |
| 22:58.42 | gaasfet | brb |
| 22:58.43 | AbsolutZer0 | I know this difference between a server and a client |
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| 22:58.53 | solemnwarning | still got no nvidia driver that actually works |
| 22:58.53 | m2 | solemnwarning: restart the x-server please. Just to make sure. |
| 22:58.56 | AbsolutZer0 | I need a working Telnet Server |
| 22:59.02 | scarynetworkguy | AbsolutZer0: Why? |
| 22:59.02 | m2 | social_study_bot: we'll get there. |
| 22:59.03 | AbsolutZer0 | or SSH server |
| 22:59.06 | orbweaver | please help - I upgrade from woody to sarge and now there seems to be lots of broken dependencies .. perl, xlib, ... about 40 packages |
| 22:59.09 | azeem | AbsolutZer0: so install ssh |
| 22:59.18 | scarynetworkguy | AbsolutZer0: apt-get install ssh and be happy. |
| 22:59.19 | SimonRaven | you don't want telnetd running.... install ssh |
| 22:59.21 | azeem | orbweaver: how did you upgrade? |
| 22:59.27 | azeem | orbweaver: did you read the release notes? |
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| 22:59.36 | SimonRaven | @kill telnetd |
| 22:59.39 | solemnwarning | x wont start |
| 22:59.47 | DoppelGanger | he he |
| 22:59.54 | LightVision | m2: why bother helping him., he doesnt listen and is out of control like a 2 year old child |
| 23:00.07 | tombs | please, does someone has dual boot(debian+winXP)with two hd's ? |
| 23:00.11 | dna_ | Is Bellhaven from scottland or ireland |
| 23:00.14 | m2 | solemnwarning: hmm... ok, you can IRC from the console? |
| 23:00.14 | dna_ | bellhaven the beer |
| 23:00.28 | LightVision | orbweaver: who told you to upgrade to sarge? |
| 23:00.29 | solemnwarning | m2: obviosly -_- |
| 23:00.31 | orbweaver | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.33 | SimonRaven | 'scotland'. have no idea otherwise |
| 23:00.39 | orbweaver | sorry ... |
| 23:00.51 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, now try the one liner... |
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| 23:00.58 | orbweaver | Light vision .. I thought of it all by myself |
| 23:01.04 | solemnwarning | erm |
| 23:01.06 | LightVision | orbweaver: bad thought :P |
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| 23:01.25 | solemnwarning | i need x since its about 50million commands to copy into terminal |
| 23:01.29 | SimonRaven | ircing as www-data? wtf |
| 23:01.33 | LightVision | orbweaver: go and get the sarge CD's |
| 23:01.35 | solemnwarning | and i only have 1 tty |
| 23:01.51 | orbweaver | I did an aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade |
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| 23:02.00 | LightVision | orbweaver: bad thought |
| 23:02.23 | orbweaver | any ideas how to recover from the bad thought |
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| 23:02.41 | LightVision | orbweaver: yes. get sarge on cd |
| 23:02.46 | m2 | solemnwarning: do this then: module-assistant prepare; module-assistant a-i nvidia |
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| 23:03.10 | LightVision | orbweaver: I hope you backed everything up before upgrade. yes? :) |
| 23:03.46 | orbweaver | I have a backup on a second hard drive |
| 23:03.54 | orbweaver | but .. I |
| 23:03.54 | orbweaver | ' |
| 23:03.54 | dob1 | anyway know if it is possible to compile samba-vscan on stable? i have problem with the samba version on stable, maybe there is a patch? |
| 23:04.08 | LightVision | orbweaver: great! so get sarge on cd and install fresh |
| 23:04.09 | dob1 | s/anyway/anybody |
| 23:04.20 | jbroome | !netinst |
| 23:04.20 | dpkg | methinks netinst is a small cd or set of floppy images which install the base Debian system. For sarge, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ For boot floppies see http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ For etch see http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/i386/current/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso for x86, or see dialup install. Also see d-i. |
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| 23:04.31 | jbroome | holy crap. sorry about that |
| 23:04.32 | orbweaver | I would have to boot on the second hd then restore .. I never figured that one out |
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| 23:04.57 | orbweaver | do I set boot on the second hard drive via bios |
| 23:04.59 | LightVision | jbroome: why did you apologise? |
| 23:05.14 | SimonRaven | orbweaver: no |
| 23:05.15 | jbroome | LightVision: i had no idea that the netinst from the bot was so large |
| 23:05.23 | jbroome | almost flood-esque |
| 23:05.27 | LightVision | orbweaver: no |
| 23:05.35 | azeem | orbweaver: what is actually broken? |
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| 23:06.06 | LightVision | orbweaver: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:06.16 | LightVision | jbroome: hehe ;) |
| 23:06.24 | orbweaver | azeem lots of package dependencies .. perl but also xlibs |
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| 23:06.41 | solemnwarning | still no x |
| 23:06.49 | LightVision | azeem: can someone actually upgrade from woody to Sarge? |
| 23:06.54 | dna_ | configure:2260: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 23:06.56 | azeem | LightVision: yes |
| 23:06.56 | orbweaver | light .. what is boot/grub |
| 23:06.57 | dna_ | why does that happen? |
| 23:07.00 | LightVision | solemnwarning: user error |
| 23:07.04 | solemnwarning | -_- |
| 23:07.09 | azeem | orbweaver: and another aptitude run does not help? |
| 23:07.10 | LightVision | azeem: how? |
| 23:07.11 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, what did you do? |
| 23:07.17 | solemnwarning | what you said |
| 23:07.19 | azeem | LightVision: read the release notes |
| 23:07.24 | orbweaver | azeem .. nope .. same errors |
| 23:07.25 | m2 | solemnwarning: only the module-assistant bits? |
| 23:07.29 | solemnwarning | yes |
| 23:07.35 | LightVision | azeem: I dont want to read it. im already using Sarge |
| 23:07.58 | azeem | orbweaver: apt-get -f install does not help either? |
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| 23:08.14 | azeem | or apt-get install <package_which_is_broken> one after the other? |
| 23:08.15 | m2 | solemnwarning: modprobe -r nvidia ; apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings ; modprobe nvidia |
| 23:08.19 | LightVision | azeem: what does "apt-get -f install" do? |
| 23:08.31 | orbweaver | azeem .. with each package ? or dist-upgrade |
| 23:08.45 | azeem | LightVision: read the manpage |
| 23:08.50 | LightVision | azeem: I dont want to read it. im already using Sarge |
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| 23:08.58 | azeem | LightVision: it works on sarge as well |
| 23:09.06 | LightVision | azeem: ok |
| 23:09.07 | kingtux | how can I display back X to my laptop |
| 23:09.16 | azeem | orbweaver: well, if dist-upgrade does not work, doing it for the individual packages might |
| 23:09.20 | LightVision | orbweaver: havent you done a dist-upgrade already? |
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| 23:09.23 | kingtux | i've tried export DISPLAY=host |
| 23:09.27 | kingtux | that doesn't work |
| 23:09.28 | azeem | orbweaver: except if there is an unrelated error you did not quote yet |
| 23:09.41 | kingtux | also tried set DISPLAY=mylaptop |
| 23:09.46 | kingtux | that doesn't work also |
| 23:10.00 | azeem | kingtux: where is your display now? |
| 23:10.08 | orbweaver | light .. yes .. I keep doing the aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade .. |
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| 23:10.26 | robin_sz | kingtux: dead simple ssh -X some.remote.host |
| 23:10.33 | azeem | orbweaver: maybe just do aptitude dist-upgrade first, then |
| 23:10.40 | kingtux | that doesn't work robin_sz |
| 23:10.44 | kadigibox | Does anyone know where I can get a touch screen X Terminal? |
| 23:10.53 | kingtux | tried that |
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| 23:11.02 | kingtux | thats what I use for other linux distros |
| 23:11.02 | robin_sz | kingtux: yes it does, but check the sshd config on the remote |
| 23:11.17 | kingtux | let me check |
| 23:11.19 | robin_sz | needs to be explicitly enabled |
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| 23:11.21 | LightVision | azeem: is apt-get -f install same as aapt-get upgrade ? |
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| 23:11.25 | azeem | kingtux: do you have xabse-clients installed on both ends |
| 23:11.30 | orbweaver | azeem .. so I get a list of problem packages |
| 23:11.45 | azeem | orbweaver: which are held back? |
| 23:11.50 | kingtux | server is debian and laptop is suse |
| 23:12.05 | azeem | kingtux: you need xauth on both, I believe |
| 23:12.16 | LightVision | azeem: Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place. |
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| 23:12.32 | kingtux | what do i need to have set in sshd_config |
| 23:12.33 | kingtux | ?? |
| 23:12.35 | solemnwarning | no x |
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| 23:12.43 | LightVision | azeem: is it good to run apt-get -f install daily? |
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| 23:12.47 | orbweaver | azeem .. it says follwoing packages kept back : mc |
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| 23:12.58 | azeem | kingtux: usually, you don't need to change the config, AFAIK |
| 23:13.01 | orbweaver | azeem .. says mc is kept back |
| 23:13.08 | azeem | nothing else? |
| 23:13.12 | kingtux | don't know why its not working |
| 23:13.16 | solemnwarning | m2: still no x |
| 23:13.22 | m2 | solemnwarning: what does cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version say? |
| 23:13.22 | azeem | kingtux: do you have xauth on both ends? |
| 23:13.29 | azeem | kingtux: try ssh -vvvv -X |
| 23:13.44 | solemnwarning | NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-7174 Tue Mar 22 06:44:39 PST 2005 |
| 23:13.44 | solemnwarning | GCC version: gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13) |
| 23:14.00 | orbweaver | azeem it says errors while processing .. debconf-i18n, perl, libdbd-mysql .. keeps going |
| 23:14.05 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, and what does ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so.* say? |
| 23:14.23 | kingtux | let me check |
| 23:14.29 | azeem | orbweaver: what error? |
| 23:14.29 | solemnwarning | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2005-09-18 00:15 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.0.7174 |
| 23:14.29 | solemnwarning | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 482256 2005-04-07 10:47 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.7174 |
| 23:14.38 | azeem | orbweaver: there must be an error message |
| 23:14.53 | orbweaver | azeem - debconf-i18n, perl .. and a list of about 40 packages .. have errors encountered in processing |
| 23:14.58 | azeem | orbweaver: paste the full dpkg output to a web-pastebin and quote the url here |
| 23:15.00 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, that looks good. Please do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 23:15.08 | solemnwarning | m2: already done |
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| 23:15.49 | kingtux | that command prints out alot of stuff |
| 23:15.57 | m2 | solemnwarning: uhm, please paste /var/log/XFree86.0.log to http://pastebin.com/ |
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| 23:16.07 | solemnwarning | m2: how?? |
| 23:16.16 | orbweaver | azeem .. not so easy to do a paste .. I'm on irc on my mac ibook .. don't know how to easily get list to you |
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| 23:16.30 | lemur | !tell lemur about x.org |
| 23:16.43 | m2 | solemnwarning: sorry, to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; that lets you upload a file. |
| 23:16.57 | m2 | solemnwarning: uhm, links http://pastebin.ca/upload.php should do it. |
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| 23:17.12 | azeem | orbweaver: well, in that case, you need to figure out the crucial part of the dpkg output yourself, but that can be hard |
| 23:17.45 | kingtux | what do i check with verbose on sssh azeem |
| 23:18.04 | lemur | the installer automatically chose stable, but I'd like my sytem to be "testing"... I tried to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but I get errors, so maybe I'm editting them wrong |
| 23:18.06 | azeem | kingtux: why -X fails |
| 23:18.13 | azeem | kingtux: dunno, it helped me once |
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| 23:18.56 | azeem | lemur: there might be upgrading issues to testing currently, who knows |
| 23:19.06 | orbweaver | azeem - I've had a lot of minor upgrade and install problems over the years but this is about the most frustrating .. don't know what to do |
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| 23:19.14 | lemur | azeem: does that mean I should just sit tight? |
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| 23:19.30 | kingtux | can't figure this crap out |
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| 23:19.44 | orbweaver | azeem .. how can I boot off the second hard drive? |
| 23:19.51 | azeem | orbweaver: I suggest trying to install one package a time, try apt-get install perl, e.g. |
| 23:19.59 | solemnwarning | posted |
| 23:20.00 | azeem | that should give you a better error message |
| 23:20.11 | azeem | orbweaver: dunno about the hard disk |
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| 23:20.41 | azeem | lemur: no idea, but you did not mention a specific error, so we cannot suggest a specific solution |
| 23:20.45 | revenger_ | hmm is the wikipedia wiki free downloadable somewhere? |
| 23:20.51 | orbweaver | azeem .. it says unmet dependencies .. lots of libs |
| 23:20.56 | georgej | Hello, I installed debian on a server ( kernel 6.2.12) but dont know how to get the promise sata150 sx4 working. The sata_sx4 driver is loaded, but instead of the Raid1 volume, I see twoo satadisks |
| 23:21.03 | solemnwarning | m2: posted |
| 23:21.17 | azeem | orbweaver: so try to apt-get install the libs one by one first |
| 23:21.18 | fbi | kernel 6.2.12 ??? |
| 23:21.23 | m2 | solemnwarning: gimme a sec |
| 23:21.31 | azeem | fbi: a typo, obviously |
| 23:21.36 | fbi | i know ;p |
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| 23:22.00 | georgej | sorry 2.6.12-8-286 |
| 23:22.03 | dna_ | sdf |
| 23:22.04 | fbi | orbweaver: why didn't you just put 'sarge' in sources.list and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:22.14 | viator | hello I need your help! |
| 23:22.34 | LightVision | fbi: good point |
| 23:22.41 | m2 | solemnwarning: ah, in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 look for the line that says Driver "nv" and change it back to Driver "nvidia". It looks like the "nv" driver doesn't like your card. |
| 23:22.54 | solemnwarning | i have set it to nvidia |
| 23:22.55 | viator | I need a string manipulation: "I like beer!" to change it to "!reeb ekil I" how to do it in command? |
| 23:23.19 | solemnwarning | that must be part of log from when i tried startx with nv |
| 23:23.25 | m2 | solemnwarning: the log says "NV" instead of "NVIDIA" |
| 23:23.28 | orbweaver | azeem .. trying that now .. thanks for helping .. i'll be paying attn to the install |
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| 23:23.50 | azeem | solemnwarning: check again, if you changed XF86Config-4 manually, you cannot change it back via dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 23:24.00 | solemnwarning | hold on |
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| 23:26.46 | m2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:26.53 | m2 | weird, that should be supported by "nv" |
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| 23:27.28 | solemnwarning | changed to nvidia |
| 23:27.33 | solemnwarning | startx still wont work |
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| 23:27.41 | kingtux | where are the C header files in debain |
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| 23:27.51 | m2 | solemnwarning: can you paste the log again please? |
| 23:27.52 | kingtux | /usr/src/linux |
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| 23:28.00 | m2 | solemnwarning: and just to check, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, too. |
| 23:28.00 | kingtux | does not have kernel |
| 23:28.20 | Gathond | kingtux: in a seperate kernel-headers package iirc |
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| 23:28.46 | Anthro | viator: /usr/bin/rev |
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| 23:29.12 | solemnwarning | posted |
| 23:29.12 | antgel | am experimenting with ratpoison for first time. i usually have, say 40 apps running over say 8 desktops in wmaker. is this do-able with ratpoison, or is ratpoison meant for those who have a smaller number of apps running? clearly i'm new to it, so i might not quite be "into" it yet |
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| 23:30.21 | solemnwarning | m2: posted |
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| 23:30.46 | m2 | solemnwarning: lsmod | grep nvidia |
| 23:31.00 | solemnwarning | nvidia 3916796 0 |
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| 23:32.33 | m2 | solemnwarning: uhm, I hate to do this, but can you please reboot? The server says the kernel module is not loaded, but the output you have pasted here says it is loaded and it is the right version. |
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| 23:32.53 | tga | hello. I have some trouble with ipmasq.. I added a .rul file with my interfaces but at boot time it does not initialize properly and it DROPs everything.. if I restart ipmasq everything works fine |
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| 23:32.56 | solemnwarning | m2: i just tried reboot |
| 23:32.58 | dnann | I have a linksys router which routes an ip address to my comptuer and I want to broadcast live with this computer, but I do not know what port my router is using to send me the routed IP address, can anyonehelp me? |
| 23:33.14 | m2 | solemnwarning: ok, then find /lib/modules -iname nvidia\* |
| 23:33.41 | solemnwarning | find: paths must precede expression |
| 23:33.41 | solemnwarning | Usage: find [path...] [expression] |
| 23:33.46 | solemnwarning | /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko |
| 23:33.46 | solemnwarning | /lib/modules/2.6.13.1-solemnwarning/nvidia |
| 23:33.46 | solemnwarning | /lib/modules/2.6.13.1-solemnwarning/nvidia/nvidia.ko |
| 23:33.48 | Anthro | I'm looking for a tool to stress test a disk and check it for bad blocks. I'll be doing this to two new disks, which will be used in a RAID1, so there is no concern for any data currently on them. Once I've found any bad blocks, I'd like to be able to tell md to avoid them. Does anyone know how to go about this? |
| 23:34.07 | redmoth | ok, i installed stable, upgraded to unstable, and for some reason I cant get it to use xorg, what could I be doing wrong? |
| 23:34.38 | antgel | tga: so at boot, iptables -L -t nat is dropping all? |
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| 23:34.59 | antgel | dnann: don't understand |
| 23:35.18 | tga | antgel, not only nat.. I can't get to that machine at all, I have to use the console |
| 23:35.29 | antgel | Anthro: man badblocks. but i wouldn't worry if they're new disks. the point is that the raid (mdadm) will tell you when it fails |
| 23:35.57 | antgel | redmoth: two things. 1. using unstable when you can't fix problems. 2. /msg dpkg vague |
| 23:36.13 | caphuso | if you see bad blocks on a new disk, then you get it replaced with a non-broken one |
| 23:36.17 | m2 | solemnwarning: dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.13.1-solemnwarning/nvidia/nvidia.ko |
| 23:36.21 | antgel | tga: so you have confirmed from the console that default policy is drop? |
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| 23:36.38 | tga | antgel, let me reboot and I'll tell you for sure |
| 23:36.53 | solemnwarning | : /lib/modules/2.6.13.1-solemnwarning/nvidia/nvidia.ko |
| 23:37.22 | antgel | !ratpoison |
| 23:37.22 | dpkg | hmm... ratpoison is the window manager for people who don't like apps taking up any less than the entire screen; http://ratpoison.sourceforge.net for more info The WM with No Flashy Wank! |
| 23:37.29 | Anthro | antgel: mdadm will tell me when the entire disk fails, and will consider it failed if there is a single bad block it can't deal with. I'd like to sort of break them in before mdadm gets to them, unless there is some way to tell mdadm to reserve some percentage of blocks for remapping. |
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| 23:38.09 | m2 | solemnwarning: dmesg > dmesg.log and paste dmesg.log to the pastebin |
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| 23:38.59 | redmoth | gee, thanks |
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| 23:39.25 | antgel | Anthro: i think you are overcomplicating matters. i don't know if you are using ide disks, but i have a _feeling_ that modern ide controllers take care of badblocks for you. badblocks don't stay static over a disk's life, they increase, so even if you could mark them somehow, get another one tomorrow, and mdadm fails the disk anyway. i think you're trying to fix something that's not a problem |
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| 23:39.35 | chealer | redmoth, if you can't diagnose better, you'Re using the wrong release |
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| 23:40.00 | Anthro | antgel: You may be right. The disks are IDE in Firewire enclosures, incidentally. |
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| 23:40.09 | caphuso | antgel: the disks take care of it, until they run out of spare blocks. and then you buy a new one |
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| 23:41.22 | antgel | caphuso: *nod* NB all - we have a pile of dead maxtor disks here reaching halfway to the moon. i don't usually indulge in pros/cons of mass production manufacturers, but the threat is real! |
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| 23:41.54 | aleutian | Problem: I'm currently running the latest version of Debian. When I try to './configure' the mplayer-plugin source, I get the following error: "configure: error: Unable to find mozilla or firefox development files" How do I fix this? |
| 23:42.10 | antgel | aleutian: please install mplayer from marillat |
| 23:42.24 | caphuso | antgel: my last maxtor died after 6 weeks :) |
| 23:42.54 | solemnwarning | ive never had a maxtor die |
| 23:43.00 | solemnwarning | wtf do you do with them?! |
| 23:43.08 | m2 | solemnwarning: what does "cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version" say again? |
| 23:43.27 | solemnwarning | NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-7174 Tue Mar 22 06:44:39 PST 2005 |
| 23:43.27 | solemnwarning | GCC version: gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13) |
| 23:43.28 | caphuso | sold the replacement to a friend, it works like charm |
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| 23:44.28 | m2 | solemnwarning: ls -l /dev/nvidia* |
| 23:44.57 | Anthro | caphuso: I haven't used a Maxtor for nearly a decade. I guess they've gone downhill. They were pretty good at the time. |
| 23:45.03 | factor | yeah, got my nvidea all working up in xinerama mode with my new kernel. whew. |
| 23:45.10 | solemnwarning | no output |
| 23:45.12 | factor | nvidia even |
| 23:45.20 | solemnwarning | since when is there a /dev/nvidia? |
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| 23:45.27 | antgel | caphuso: it's very annoying. bought in good faith, install in customer machines, we look like amateurs. whilst mr maxtor sits there bathing in porsche-flavoured caviar, no doubt |
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| 23:45.36 | m2 | solemnwarning: no output? not even a file not found? |
| 23:45.43 | solemnwarning | nope |
| 23:45.47 | antgel | modern ide disks seem to run hot enough to fry an egg on |
| 23:45.50 | solemnwarning | otherwise it would be in chan |
| 23:45.56 | solemnwarning | im using /exec -o |
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| 23:46.15 | m2 | solemnwarning: is there a /dev/nvidia0 on your system? |
| 23:46.26 | caphuso | antgel: /dev/hda: WDC WD800JB-00FMA0: 36°C |
| 23:46.29 | solemnwarning | nope |
| 23:46.38 | solemnwarning | ls aint returning anything |
| 23:47.34 | antgel | caphuso: what you using? is that a smart thing? |
| 23:47.43 | caphuso | antgel: hddtemp |
| 23:47.46 | m2 | solemnwarning: ls -la /dev/ | grep dev |
| 23:47.51 | factor | here is what I have. |
| 23:47.54 | factor | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 0 Sep 17 18:10 /dev/nvidia0 |
| 23:47.54 | factor | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 1 Sep 17 18:10 /dev/nvidia1 |
| 23:47.54 | factor | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 255 Sep 17 18:10 /dev/nvidiactl |
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| 23:48.05 | factor | I have the nvidias devices listed in dev |
| 23:48.10 | solemnwarning | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 13260 2005-09-18 00:33 .udevdb |
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| 23:49.14 | m2 | solemnwarning: mknod /dev/nviida0 c 195 0 |
| 23:49.23 | m2 | solemnwarning: mknod /dev/nviidactl c 195 255 |
| 23:49.34 | solemnwarning | : Permission denied |
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| 23:49.46 | m2 | solemnwarning: mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0 |
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| 23:50.03 | m2 | oh, right. udev. |
| 23:50.05 | solemnwarning | i cant |
| 23:50.08 | m2 | grrr. |
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| 23:50.32 | m2 | wait... |
| 23:50.32 | solemnwarning | some idiot set this chan to +q root!*@* so i had to su to user level access |
| 23:50.34 | Anthro | antgel, caphuso: Mine are made by Magnetic Data Technologies. Should I be worried? |
| 23:50.35 | m2 | solemnwarning: as root? |
| 23:50.50 | m2 | solemnwarning: you need to run mknod as root. |
| 23:50.54 | solemnwarning | yes |
| 23:50.57 | caphuso | Anthro: don't know them |
| 23:50.58 | solemnwarning | im not root |
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| 23:51.06 | solemnwarning | who set the +q on root?? |
| 23:51.10 | Anthro | solemnwarning: That was not accidental, incidentally. |
| 23:51.16 | ysothoth | none of your business |
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| 23:51.19 | antgel | caphuso: interesting. just measured some disks on servers etc, and get similar figures. |
| 23:51.36 | antgel | ysothoth: what? |
| 23:51.38 | m2 | solemnwarning: and note the typo. it's "nvidia" not "nviida" or whatever I wrote. |
| 23:51.44 | antgel | Anthro: you should always be worried :) |
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| 23:55.07 | antgel | !sunday |
| 23:55.08 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
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| 23:55.57 | Anthro | antgel: Is it Sunday where you are, then? It's Saturday here. |
| 23:56.12 | darkcmd | hello |
| 23:56.17 | darkcmd | any people using icewm in here? |
| 23:56.41 | Anthro | Can someone remind me whether I'm supposed to use dev=ATAPI or dev=ATA with cdrecord? |
| 23:56.55 | Anthro | !poll |
| 23:56.55 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 23:57.56 | darkcmd | ok, I was wondering if anyone was using it, because I'm looking for some setup suggestions |
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| 23:58.22 | azeem | darkcmd: my boss is using it, but he's not around to ask |
| 23:58.30 | darkcmd | ok |
| 23:58.46 | rking | darkcmd: you still managed to not ask a question |
| 23:58.47 | dvs | Anthro: Either but ATAPI is safer (with DMA) |
| 23:58.55 | azeem | IMHO icewm is for people who can't decide between GNOME and ion |
| 23:58.59 | darkcmd | Ok, sorry.. flame me |
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| 23:59.23 | rking | darkcmd: i'm definitely not flaming. i'm just letting you know the protocol is to just ask questions |
| 23:59.23 | Anthro | !flame darkcmd |
| 23:59.24 | dpkg | darkcmd: YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 23:59.30 | azeem | rking: the question was: "Does anybody have any icewm setup suggestions?" |
| 23:59.32 | Stormy | how do I get to the lvm2 config that I saw on install in an existing system? |
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| 23:59.55 | rking | azeem: in general? just like, "I recommend you use green for the background, because green is the prettiest." |