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| 00:00.10 | darkcmd | I get nervous about asking questions in here, because I always seem to get put down :( |
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| 00:00.14 | Anthro | Stormy: Are you looking to configure some extra LVM storage? Or are you trying to put your root filesystem on LVM? |
| 00:00.28 | yel | azeem, i have a question please i added deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/java/debian/ sarge non-free to my source.list and i apt-get update and i apt-get install j2sdk1.4 which runs without problem too but i still can't not use java any idea what i could be doing wrong ? |
| 00:00.32 | Stormy | Anthro I'm configuring extra in an existing machine |
| 00:00.33 | Anthro | darkcmd: It's mostly good-natured, with a little bit of exasperation with EVERYBODY ELSE. |
| 00:00.38 | Stormy | i already know how to do the latter |
| 00:00.53 | darkcmd | thanks guys, I'll try to be more specific |
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| 00:01.13 | azeem | yel: sorry, I don't have much experience with java sdk |
| 00:01.22 | Anthro | Stormy: Well, I've never used any kind of configuration tool for LVM other than the pv, vg, and lv commands. |
| 00:01.30 | Stormy | when you install Sarge |
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| 00:01.32 | Anthro | Stormy: I can help you with those, though. |
| 00:01.33 | yel | anyone of you guys have an idea ?? |
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| 00:01.50 | Stormy | there is a curses gui that makes it easy as shit |
| 00:01.55 | SJr|Tecra | How can I get SSH to not allow execution of any programs, but allow port tunneling. |
| 00:01.56 | azeem | yel: does your browser show java among the plugins? |
| 00:01.57 | darkcmd | I'm making a cool debian XDM theme :D |
| 00:02.13 | Anthro | yel: How are you trying to use java? |
| 00:02.16 | yel | azeem, its nongraphical system |
| 00:02.16 | dvs | yel: about:plugins |
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| 00:02.34 | yel | Anthro, i only try to call java -version |
| 00:02.46 | yel | command unknown :s |
| 00:02.46 | Anthro | SJr|Tecra: Setting the user's shell to /bin/false might do it. |
| 00:02.55 | orbweaver | last call for more help before nuking failed sarge upgrade |
| 00:02.59 | Anthro | yel: What shell are you using? |
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| 00:03.06 | Anthro | orbweaver: What's the issue? |
| 00:03.08 | Stormy | Anthro can you give me the quick command list in a priv msg to create the pv, vg, lv commands |
| 00:03.28 | SJr|Tecra | Anthro the connection will just die right away. I tried something else, but I here that allegedly, ssh has like an exec() command anyway that would still work. |
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| 00:03.41 | [bono] | OT Question: how can i have a url path such as "/abc" point to "/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi" ? Anyone can help? |
| 00:03.44 | azeem | orbweaver: what's the status? |
| 00:03.54 | orbweaver | anthro .. tried to upgrade woody to sarge .. apparently dependencies screwed .. lots of libs, xlib, perl. |
| 00:03.57 | yel | Anthro, bash |
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| 00:04.11 | Anthro | SJr|Tecra: They would need to use -N on their clients, which does not attempt to start a command. |
| 00:04.14 | Stormy | Sjr|Tecra look at rbash or the bash restricted shell |
| 00:04.27 | azeem | orbweaver: did you run out of disk space perhaps? |
| 00:04.29 | Stormy | will do exactly what you want |
| 00:04.31 | orbweaver | azeem .. screwed |
| 00:04.32 | tga | eth%d: NE2000 found at 0x220, using IRQ 10. :) |
| 00:04.54 | Anthro | yel: dpkg -L j2sdk1.4 | grep bin should show you where it installed the binaries. |
| 00:05.02 | orbweaver | azeem now at 72% .. just about as when I started |
| 00:05.03 | SJr|Tecra | Anthro OHHHHHH |
| 00:05.06 | Anthro | Stormy: I'd rather keep it on the channel, actually. |
| 00:05.13 | SJr|Tecra | So if I set the shell to |
| 00:05.22 | SJr|Tecra | I get it |
| 00:05.27 | SJr|Tecra | when I try and execute a remote command |
| 00:05.29 | Anthro | SJr|Tecra: I'm not certain it will work, but I think so. Try it and see. |
| 00:05.30 | Stormy | whatever hit me with the cheat sheet for lvm2 |
| 00:05.32 | SJr|Tecra | it gets executed with that Shell |
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| 00:05.40 | SJr|Tecra | if I set to /bin/false |
| 00:05.43 | orbweaver | I'd like to be able to boot on hdb .. but I haven't figured out how. |
| 00:05.44 | SJr|Tecra | I'd have to use ssh -N |
| 00:05.50 | Stormy | SJr|Tecra, look at rbash |
| 00:05.53 | Anthro | Stormy: First off, you need to have the lvm2 package installed. I assume you do...? |
| 00:05.59 | Stormy | yes |
| 00:06.07 | yel | Anthro, yes i can see it but shall i add it manually to the system path ? iam new to debian :s |
| 00:06.07 | SJr|Tecra | Stormy I don't want ANY shell access at ALL. |
| 00:06.11 | Anthro | SJr|Tecra: I believe so, yes. Don't take my word for it. Try it and see. |
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| 00:06.23 | Stormy | so what do you want ssh to do? |
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| 00:06.31 | SJr|Tecra | Stormy just forward ports. |
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| 00:06.37 | Stormy | for what |
| 00:06.39 | Stormy | like X? |
| 00:06.43 | SJr|Tecra | sort of |
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| 00:06.46 | mark_ | Hello, all! I amkind of new to Debian (but not Linux.) I added a few new sites to my "sources.list" file & updated accordingly to kde3.4.2.... but it won't install the Kaffeine Media player. I tried installing from source and it says my QT version is to high! How doI revert to an old version? |
| 00:06.49 | Stormy | well elabortae yourself please |
| 00:06.51 | SJr|Tecra | rsync actually. |
| 00:06.55 | Anthro | Stormy: Do you understand the LVM concepts of physical volumes, volume groups, and logical volumes? |
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| 00:06.58 | orbweaver | azeem, anthro .. I've tried reinstall, force-depends, etc .. can't get 40 some packages fixed |
| 00:07.07 | SJr|Tecra | Its for dirvish |
| 00:07.21 | SJr|Tecra | Its a linux project for backing up remote system. |
| 00:07.23 | SJr|Tecra | remotesystems. |
| 00:07.27 | Anthro | orbweaver: I assume you've tried apt-get -f install? |
| 00:07.29 | Stormy | Anthro, I wouldn't have asked for just the cheat sheet if i haven't done this already enough times with the gui I just don't want to spend 6 hours learning the syntax again |
| 00:07.38 | SJr|Tecra | It currently uses rsync, but it requires root access on the server. |
| 00:07.41 | SJr|Tecra | And well sucks.. |
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| 00:07.45 | Anthro | Stormy: Ah, okay, good. Just trying to assess your level. |
| 00:07.46 | SJr|Tecra | well the program is good |
| 00:07.51 | SJr|Tecra | but I don't like giving shell access |
| 00:07.53 | Stormy | SJr|Tecra, chroot your ssh |
| 00:07.59 | orbweaver | anthro yes .. with individual packages and .. everything |
| 00:08.01 | Stormy | use rbash |
| 00:08.03 | SJr|Tecra | Stormy then it can't backup files outside of the jail :P |
| 00:08.05 | SJr|Tecra | Stormy nah |
| 00:08.05 | Stormy | and private keys |
| 00:08.10 | Stormy | yes you can |
| 00:08.14 | virgomoon | Guys, I am having a terrible time trying to set up a small network. I'm trying to us a Debian box as the gateway. Outbound link on the Deb box is fine, all works well (eth0). eth1 however, can't even ping the Windows machine or vice versa. The hub doesn't even flicker where it's trying. I'm relatively astute, but can't see what I'm missing. |
| 00:08.16 | azeem | orbweaver: just "apt-get -f install", not aptitude or anything |
| 00:08.17 | Stormy | you have a daemon that runs server side |
| 00:08.19 | Stormy | like a sorter |
| 00:08.22 | SJr|Tecra | hmmmm |
| 00:08.26 | Stormy | i'd tell you more |
| 00:08.32 | Stormy | but i'm disclosed by an NDA |
| 00:08.39 | SJr|Tecra | are you joking? |
| 00:08.44 | SJr|Tecra | Well thats fine this method will work. |
| 00:08.44 | Stormy | no |
| 00:08.47 | SJr|Tecra | And I like it more :) |
| 00:08.54 | zirikili | should I use apt-get dist-upgrade instead apt-get upgrade to keep packages upgraded? |
| 00:08.56 | Stormy | Private keys are much much more secure |
| 00:08.57 | SJr|Tecra | I don't want an automated program to get more access then it needs. |
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| 00:08.59 | Anthro | Stormy: So first you want to use pvcreate on the physical volumes: pvcreate /dev/<disk or partition> |
| 00:09.01 | SJr|Tecra | Stormy thats different. |
| 00:09.04 | orbweaver | azeem .. apt-get -f install what? |
| 00:09.05 | SJr|Tecra | It does use private keys. |
| 00:09.10 | azeem | orbweaver: uhm |
| 00:09.12 | SJr|Tecra | But the point is that if the backup server were to be comprimised. |
| 00:09.16 | SJr|Tecra | they could ssh anywhere. |
| 00:09.21 | azeem | orbweaver: just "apt-get -f install" |
| 00:09.24 | Stormy | see no |
| 00:09.24 | darkcmd | how do you guys manage installing non apt/deb software semi painlessly? |
| 00:09.27 | Stormy | you build a chroot |
| 00:09.30 | Stormy | that has sshd |
| 00:09.31 | Stormy | but no ssh |
| 00:09.34 | Stormy | you use rbash |
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| 00:09.40 | SJr|Tecra | no no no |
| 00:09.43 | Stormy | to make it close to like a ftp client |
| 00:09.45 | Anthro | darkcmd: We rarely do, but when we need to we install it in /usr/local |
| 00:09.46 | SJr|Tecra | different systems. |
| 00:09.46 | azeem | darkcmd: we ignore it :) |
| 00:09.47 | Stormy | rather than a shell |
| 00:10.04 | darkcmd | hehe... it would be cool if there was the ultimate 3rd party repo that had everything |
| 00:10.10 | Stormy | alright well whatever its your system |
| 00:10.12 | darkcmd | it would eliminate the need for compiling :D |
| 00:10.12 | azeem | darkcmd: it's called ftp.debian.lorg |
| 00:10.16 | Stormy | Anthro, one second |
| 00:10.20 | azeem | eh, .org |
| 00:10.29 | orbweaver | azeem .. yes .. doens;t work .. says /usr/bin/perl: relocation error: .... undefined symbol |
| 00:10.36 | SJr|Tecra | Stormy. okay I have a backup server. That right now connects via ssh to various system. From teh console it then runs rsync thru SSH. |
| 00:10.41 | darkcmd | ok.. my awesome debian themed icewm desktop with xdm theme is done |
| 00:10.43 | azeem | orbweaver: aha |
| 00:10.51 | SJr|Tecra | In order to backup all the files on the system it has to have root access. |
| 00:10.53 | SJr|Tecra | What I want to do |
| 00:11.00 | Stormy | rsync isn't the most efficent method for what you want to do |
| 00:11.01 | Anthro | Stormy: Once you've created all of your physical volumes, you need to create a volume group with vgcreate: vgcreate <VG name> /dev/<disk or partition> /dev/<disk or partition> ... |
| 00:11.07 | orbweaver | azeem Faiulure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure |
| 00:11.13 | SJr|Tecra | Stormy hmmmmmm this is part of the dirvish project |
| 00:11.21 | SJr|Tecra | This isn't really stuff I can change. |
| 00:11.22 | azeem | orbweaver: so your perl is fucked |
| 00:11.23 | SJr|Tecra | Its just how it works. |
| 00:11.29 | SJr|Tecra | and rsync gives us some benifits. |
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| 00:11.35 | azeem | orbweaver: can you boot from something like knoppix? |
| 00:11.36 | orbweaver | azeem - seems so |
| 00:11.44 | azeem | or maybe install perl via dpkg |
| 00:11.57 | azeem | from /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 00:12.15 | orbweaver | azeem I don't know knoppix .. I have a tar-ed copy on a second hard drive (hdb) but can't boot from it |
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| 00:12.54 | quik | I installed gnome using apt-get install gnome, how do I start it now that it has installed? xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session doesn't work |
| 00:13.17 | azeem | orbweaver: try dpkg -i on the various perl *debs you find in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 00:13.19 | SJr|Tecra | Anyway thanks everyone. |
| 00:13.31 | secureboot | what do i need to do to make querybts display the pending bugs on a package? right now, it just returns. Aircrack won't install in sarge, and I'm trying to file a bug about it. |
| 00:13.37 | rking | quik: something should go in your ~/.xsession - i'm not sure what it should be for gnome, but it's something. |
| 00:13.37 | cockroach | hi. i'm using a laptop with an intel graphics chip (915GM) but no fb devices are created when I load the intelfb (2.6.13.1) module - am I correct in assuming that the driver probably just doesn't support that chip yet, even though 915G is listed in the docs? Or is there some other explanation? |
| 00:14.00 | Anthro | Stormy: Ready for more? |
| 00:14.03 | Stormy | ok Anth |
| 00:14.04 | Stormy | yea |
| 00:14.21 | darkcmd | where can I get a list of services that debian starts by default |
| 00:14.25 | secureboot | querybts reports 14 bugs for aircrack, but it doesn't display anything about them |
| 00:14.27 | Stormy | 915 does work with vesafb |
| 00:14.27 | ke6isf | bleah |
| 00:14.33 | azeem | quik_: check /usr/share/doc/gnome-session/README.Debian |
| 00:14.34 | secureboot | i used to get a curses interface on my older debian install |
| 00:14.43 | rking | darkcmd: /etc/rc2.d/*, or ps |
| 00:14.49 | cheal | cockroach: better ask #kernel |
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| 00:15.05 | darkcmd | ok thanks :D |
| 00:15.09 | test34 | any debian packages available for firefox 1.5 ? |
| 00:15.09 | orbweaver | azeem .. looking at things now .. just a minute |
| 00:15.16 | cockroach | Stormy: hmm, okay, i'll try that. the last time i tried i just got a blank screen - maybe i gave up too early |
| 00:15.26 | Anthro | Stormy: Once you have the volume group created with the physical volumes you need to start the VG with vgchange: vgchange -a y <VG name> |
| 00:15.30 | Stormy | what laptop do you have? |
| 00:15.37 | cockroach | Stormy: thinkpad x41 |
| 00:15.44 | cockroach | cheal: okay, i will. thanks. |
| 00:15.45 | Stormy | oh |
| 00:15.47 | Stormy | yea that runs linux |
| 00:15.52 | Stormy | err |
| 00:15.53 | Stormy | x41 |
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| 00:15.57 | Stormy | i was thinking t41 |
| 00:15.59 | Anthro | Stormy: Actually, I think you can set up logical volumes without the volume group started, but I'm not sure. |
| 00:16.01 | Stormy | one second cock |
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| 00:16.42 | Stormy | i need to make an lv |
| 00:16.54 | Stormy | desk:/home/scott# vgchange -a y storage |
| 00:16.54 | Stormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.54 | overflow | hey, what happened with Print option in Gimp (etch) |
| 00:16.55 | h3xis | i have an irritating issue where i have to manually press the power button on my system to turn it off whenever everything shuts down (it'll just say Power Down and that's it). anyone know how to fix this? |
| 00:17.06 | overflow | hey, what happened with Print option in Gimp (etch)? |
| 00:17.17 | Stormy | gimp-print ? |
| 00:17.23 | ke6isf | !tell h3xis -about power down |
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| 00:17.47 | cheal | test34: yes, as long as you understand that 1.5 isn't released yet |
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| 00:17.59 | Anthro | Stormy: To create logical volumes on which you can actually have a filesystem you use lvcreate: lvcreate -L <size, e.g. 16G> -n <LV name> <VG name> |
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| 00:18.01 | test34 | cheal, 1.5 beta1 I meant |
| 00:18.09 | cheal | test34: right |
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| 00:18.15 | Stormy | can i do 100% for -L? |
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| 00:18.34 | test34 | cheal, so where can I get it ? |
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| 00:18.39 | overflow | staniel, staniel what? |
| 00:18.43 | overflow | Stormy, what? |
| 00:18.52 | cheal | !tell test34 about info mozilla-firefox experimental |
| 00:18.54 | orbweaver | azeem . first one I tried .. perl_5.6.1.-8.7_i386.deb .. dependency problems .. depends on perl-base ... |
| 00:19.21 | Stormy | desk:/home/scott# lvcreate -L 133.95 -n media storage |
| 00:19.21 | Stormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.21 | Stormy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.21 | Stormy | desk:/home/scott# |
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| 00:19.29 | quik_ | azeem, If I run startx or initx there is no such command, and gnome-session appears to just error with gtk-warning, cannot open display |
| 00:19.45 | orbweaver | azeem .. I'm now on a mac with a terminal session to the Linux box .. I could email you any logs or output if that would help |
| 00:19.53 | Anthro | Stormy: I don't think you can specify it as a percentage. Hang on a sec. |
| 00:20.21 | HyperStream | hey ive just used http://easyfwgen.morizot.net to make a iptables script , since ive jjust recently needed to open more ports, how do i go about updateing it . what command am i looking to use |
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| 00:20.42 | azeem | orbweaver: install them all in one row, like dpkg -i perl*5.6.1* |
| 00:20.45 | test34 | thanks cheal |
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| 00:21.09 | azeem | quik_: which command? |
| 00:21.26 | quik_ | "startx" |
| 00:21.28 | prjktdtnt | ok i'm an idiot where on the filesystem is most of the *-*-*-doc stuff stored on debian systems? |
| 00:21.36 | yel | n8 every 1 |
| 00:21.42 | orbweaver | azeem ok .. I'll try . what if there are several versions .. seems like I have 3 versions of each .. perl, libs |
| 00:21.44 | quik_ | or /usr/bin/gnome-session errors with that error up there ^ |
| 00:21.45 | Anthro | prjktdtnt: /usr/share/doc |
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| 00:21.53 | prjktdtnt | Anthro: thx |
| 00:21.55 | HyperStream | anyone? |
| 00:22.26 | azeem | orbweaver: determine the latest one, and install that |
| 00:22.38 | Anthro | HyperStream: I don't understand. You want to update a script? Use a text editor. |
| 00:22.41 | azeem | quik_: so your problem is to start X rather than GNOME |
| 00:22.57 | quik_ | oh right |
| 00:23.05 | azeem | orbweaver: like dpkg -i perl*5.8.7-3*deb |
| 00:23.22 | azeem | quik_: did you install x-window-system-core? |
| 00:23.39 | quik_ | I didn't realise I had to |
| 00:23.48 | HyperStream | Anthro, no like i used this when i first got into debian, there was a command like iptables -i file.name |
| 00:23.52 | quik_ | I thought apt-get install gnome would install all requirements |
| 00:24.00 | HyperStream | and it kinda adds the settings from the file into my iptables |
| 00:24.05 | orbweaver | azeem .. for perl -modules .. dpkg -i *perl*5.8.7-3*deb ? |
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| 00:24.21 | prjktdtnt | X( ok anyone work with the postgresql package? |
| 00:24.32 | dvs | !polls |
| 00:24.32 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 00:24.35 | azeem | orbweaver: perl* will install perl, perl-base and perl-modules |
| 00:24.43 | azeem | or else I don't undestand your question |
| 00:24.56 | quik_ | can I run apt-get install x-window-system-core? |
| 00:25.09 | HyperStream | well whats the command to open a port range for tcp and udp, on like 4590 - 5000 |
| 00:25.14 | azeem | quik_: it does not, you might want to install GNOME on a server which does not have a display at all |
| 00:25.21 | azeem | in order to server X termintals |
| 00:25.24 | prjktdtnt | !ask |
| 00:25.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 00:25.25 | azeem | terminals |
| 00:25.47 | kasper | how do i set a path to a certian dir. (i.e i need to set a path so that javac is recongized from cosole insid of /usr/local/jdkbalhablah....)?? |
| 00:25.47 | orbweaver | azeem errors were encountered while processing:perl-suid |
| 00:25.57 | azeem | orbweaver: which errors? |
| 00:26.07 | azeem | they are usually further up |
| 00:26.12 | azeem | (I think) |
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| 00:26.34 | prjktdtnt | ok be that way so here's my question with the postgresql package what is the default user/pass combination (ex from mysql: root no pass) |
| 00:26.45 | azeem | kasper: that depends on your sheel |
| 00:26.48 | azeem | shell, even |
| 00:26.52 | orbweaver | azeem .. perl -suid depends on libperl5.8 |
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| 00:27.01 | kasper | azeem: bash |
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| 00:27.19 | azeem | orbweaver: ah, so *perl*5.8.7-3* is what you need :) |
| 00:27.21 | azeem | sorry |
| 00:27.58 | azeem | kasper: man bash, there is a section called "ENVIRONMENT" |
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| 00:28.37 | adriana | hola buenas noches |
| 00:28.53 | saidin | anyone got link for a floppy install >.>? |
| 00:28.56 | orbweaver | azeem .. OK! .. no errors |
| 00:28.59 | prjktdtnt | ok nevermind ignore the idiot here<< |
| 00:29.01 | saidin | or boot whatever |
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| 00:29.13 | azeem | orbweaver: no try apt-get -f install again |
| 00:29.17 | azeem | s/no/now/ |
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| 00:29.33 | orbweaver | azeem .. yes . was going to try |
| 00:29.47 | adriana | algien habla spaņlol |
| 00:29.53 | azeem | prjktdtnt: did you see whether /usr/share/doc/postgresql/README.Debian exists/is helpful? |
| 00:29.53 | cheal | !es |
| 00:29.54 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:30.14 | prjktdtnt | azeem: one sec |
| 00:30.29 | adriana | de donde es este canal |
| 00:30.33 | azeem | prjktdtnt: I don't use postgresql |
| 00:30.38 | adriana | soy espaņola |
| 00:30.43 | piem_ | adriana: /join #debian-es |
| 00:31.04 | azeem | prjktdtnt: maybe there is a postgresql-doc package with more help |
| 00:31.06 | orbweaver | azeem .. error .. problems with libxt and xlibmesa-glu |
| 00:31.12 | prjktdtnt | azeem: its gzipped |
| 00:31.22 | prjktdtnt | would more get around that or do i need to unzip |
| 00:31.23 | orbweaver | azeem .. maybe I should do what I did for perl? |
| 00:31.31 | dvs | prjktdtnt: zless or zmore |
| 00:31.35 | azeem | prjktdtnt: most editors/pagers like vim or emacs or less can read .gz files fine |
| 00:31.38 | prjktdtnt | dvs: thanks |
| 00:31.45 | prjktdtnt | azeem: thx also |
| 00:31.51 | azeem | orbweaver: depends on the specific error |
| 00:31.52 | dvs | prjktdtnt: no prob |
| 00:32.01 | azeem | try apt-get install xlibmesa-glu first |
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| 00:33.28 | saidin | soo thanks <.< |
| 00:33.32 | redmoth | ok, point taken, i reinstalled and stayed with stable |
| 00:33.50 | redmoth | now, i still have a similar problem |
| 00:33.50 | orbweaver | azeem ^&*&^*&^*&^ - tired that and got errors of abiword-common and gnome-control-center have unmet dependencies |
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| 00:33.54 | factor | yeah stable is really good version right now. |
| 00:34.27 | saidin | sooooo does anyone have the link to a floppy boot version <.< |
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| 00:34.33 | redmoth | i cannot change my resolution beyond 800x600 |
| 00:34.41 | dvs | saidin: yeah, the debian installation instructions |
| 00:34.43 | soto | I installed mplayer and codecs .now i would like to listen to music online(windows media player format)using my browser.How should i proceed,? |
| 00:34.49 | azeem | orbweaver: maybe fallout from the gnome-2.10 move to etch |
| 00:34.57 | saidin | >.>.....?? |
| 00:35.23 | redmoth | I edited the XF86Config-4 file so that it included the higher resolutions and restarted X, but it still does not allow me to change resolutions |
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| 00:35.38 | azeem | orbweaver: another strategy would by to run apt-get upgrade, letting as much upgrade as possible without issues, and then revisit the held back packages |
| 00:35.42 | azeem | anyway, going to bed now |
| 00:35.44 | azeem | good night |
| 00:35.46 | orbweaver | azeem .. is it possible to boot off of my second hard drive ? I tried setting the bios to D but that didn't work |
| 00:35.46 | saidin | uh ya im using redhat right now <.< |
| 00:35.47 | azeem | orbweaver: good luck |
| 00:35.58 | redmoth | is there something that im doing wrong? |
| 00:35.58 | azeem | orbweaver: you said you had a tarball on it? |
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| 00:36.31 | dodgyville | Hello |
| 00:36.34 | orbweaver | azeem .. I copied to the hdb by using tar and then untaring .. don't have the tarball |
| 00:36.35 | soto | I installed mplayer and codecs in my debian sarge .now i would like to listen to music online(windows media player format)using my browser.How should i proceed,? |
| 00:36.45 | azeem | orbweaver: I can't help you with that, sorry. Depends on your bootloader as well |
| 00:37.02 | orbweaver | ok .. thanks for the help azeem . good night |
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| 00:38.26 | factor | redmoth:so you cant ctrl - alt - + or -? |
| 00:38.53 | redmoth | only between 800x600 and 600x480 |
| 00:39.06 | factor | vga 16 colors or 256 or higher. |
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| 00:39.25 | dvs | redmoth: Look in your /var/log/XFree86.0.log file to see what resolutions it supports. |
| 00:39.44 | factor | what desktop are you using? |
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| 00:40.01 | factor | if kde you can check the infocenter, but you can check the logs as well. |
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| 00:40.10 | redmoth | gnome |
| 00:40.13 | linuxDebian | salut |
| 00:40.16 | factor | you may need to change your driver. |
| 00:40.16 | Erpo | Hi all. My wireless router will respond to dhcp requests from my laptop when I'm using windows xp, but now when I'm running Debian. When I set a static IP in linux, it works fine. What gives? |
| 00:40.29 | factor | redmoth:what video card ? |
| 00:40.41 | Erpo | s/but now/but not/ |
| 00:40.49 | redmoth | ATi Radeon 9100 |
| 00:41.00 | cockroach | Stormy: btw: I did some minor hacking in the intelfb driver which apparently just didn't know the correct pci id - looking forward to some major fuckups ;) |
| 00:41.23 | factor | yeah you prolly need a special driver for that. |
| 00:41.24 | linuxDebian | sorry al chreche ATI X600 driver video for Linux Debian pls |
| 00:41.31 | factor | not familiar with that setup |
| 00:41.39 | factor | but have sen it in the kernel configs. |
| 00:41.45 | factor | sen seen |
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| 00:41.50 | phliver | hello |
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| 00:42.40 | phliver | i was just installing debian and while i was trying to upgrade from stable to unstable..it stopped with an error processing libncurses5 "illegal instruction" |
| 00:42.44 | phliver | anybody have any ideas? |
| 00:43.07 | phliver | i didnt come up with anything doing google searches |
| 00:43.09 | quik_ | !anyone |
| 00:43.10 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> consider the answer to be "yes" if the program is actually in Debian.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:43.10 | factor | redmoth:nice card though, you most likly are running in 16 or 256 |
| 00:43.13 | quik_ | ha |
| 00:43.24 | factor | until you get a driver for it . |
| 00:43.27 | quik_ | finally I get to act like a bitchy 14-year old linux user |
| 00:43.44 | quik_ | and use the stupid bot commands to bitch at people for me |
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| 00:44.06 | robotics | l |
| 00:44.08 | robotics | l |
| 00:44.15 | dvs | j |
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| 00:46.15 | virgomoon | Guys, I am having a terrible time trying to set up a small network. I'm trying to us a Debian box as the gateway. Outbound link on the Deb box is fine, all works well (eth0). eth1 however, can't even ping the Windows machine or vice versa. The hub doesn't even flicker where it's trying. I'm relatively astute, but can't see what I'm missing. |
| 00:46.48 | hogmeat | after i purged 2.4 kernel packages, on screen messages said "you many need to re-run lilo", there is no lilo util, so what should i do? |
| 00:47.06 | dvs | hogmeat: grub-update? |
| 00:47.14 | dvs | or update-grub |
| 00:48.05 | cockroach | virgomoon: what if you try it the other way round (eth0 for the lan, eth1 for the uplink)? that way you could rule out hardware issues... |
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| 00:48.28 | virgomoon | cockroach: now that would just make sense |
| 00:48.44 | virgomoon | all the lights are on like it's connecting, though |
| 00:48.51 | virgomoon | would that happen and still not transmit? |
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| 00:49.13 | kilra | alguem tem um minuto de cultura pra mi dar, tem alguma solucao para eu bloquer no firewall somente alguns contatos do msn |
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| 00:49.22 | hogmeat | where can i get a splash image? |
| 00:49.43 | cockroach | virgomoon: i think i had a similar situation years ago with two identical cards - the driver just wasn't able to operate them both correctly. might be something completely different, though :) |
| 00:49.50 | roby | My hostname is assigned by my isp, it's a cryptic serial#... i hate it, if i wanted to change it, is it ok if i just specify so in the /etc/hostnme and /etc/hosts file? |
| 00:50.12 | roby | or will some internet stuff not work so well? |
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| 00:50.55 | saidin | im just curious <.< does it raelly matter which thing i use for http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 00:51.02 | dvs | roby: It doesn't matter what you do on your computer. The ISP sets the outside internet name. |
| 00:51.14 | roby | dvs: cool |
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| 00:52.00 | virgomoon | I switched them and it failed. Guess it is hardware |
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| 00:52.06 | virgomoon | I'll see if I can find another NIC |
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| 00:52.13 | trollboy | someone changed my rootpass |
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| 00:52.23 | dvs | trollboy: Reinstall |
| 00:52.35 | cheal | saidin: are you talking about the architecture? |
| 00:52.39 | dvs | saidin: You probably want the i386 verions (Intel based) |
| 00:53.05 | saidin | ok |
| 00:53.07 | saidin | ty |
| 00:53.16 | trollboy | dvs no other way to change it from console? |
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| 00:53.29 | saidin | Intel x86 that one? |
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| 00:53.34 | karsten | Anyone got a good way of logging a kernel boot over serial, if the standard serial options don't work? |
| 00:53.34 | dvs | saidin: yes |
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| 00:53.39 | saidin | ok ty |
| 00:53.43 | karsten | Eg: # kernel /vmlinuz-2.6-native ro root=/dev/hda3 console=ttyS0,38400 |
| 00:53.44 | dvs | trollboy: I don't know. I never tried. |
| 00:53.48 | adar | I'm having woes with my software raid array, which channels/mailing lists should I use for help? |
| 00:53.54 | karsten | ... noting it's commented at the moment, won't actually log to serial. |
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| 00:54.28 | karsten | adar: If it's debian related, there's a list of lists at http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 00:54.42 | roby | exit |
| 00:54.54 | karsten | adar: ... I'd likely start at debian-user or an appropriate kernel newsgroup if it's Linux kernel SW raid. |
| 00:54.55 | adar | karsten: it's not debian related, this is just the only place I know about for support :P |
| 00:55.09 | karsten | adar: /query chanserv list *expr* |
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| 00:55.37 | karsten | adar: ... which doesn't show much, but is a good recipie to kow. |
| 00:55.38 | deadcat | drac: whats this ~/.drirc instead of /etc/drirc? |
| 00:56.14 | deadcat | karsten: what up.. |
| 00:56.16 | karsten | deadcat: /msg. |
| 00:56.21 | deadcat | k |
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| 01:04.56 | saidin | ummm uhhh |
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| 01:05.13 | saidin | anyone have any clue why my floppy drive says its 56gb large.. |
| 01:05.27 | aleoje | is it? |
| 01:05.38 | aleoje | just kidding.... |
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| 01:06.23 | saidin | lol |
| 01:07.59 | gentgeen__ | How can I find/ does anyone know the current # of packages in Testing? |
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| 01:08.07 | Erpo | test? |
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| 01:09.16 | tga | gentgeen__, dpkg -l | wc -l :) |
| 01:09.24 | MoodGladeGal | I'm using iptables and can't login to my machine on the LAN, but can from the outside. any ideas? |
| 01:09.26 | gentgeen__ | thanks tga |
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| 01:10.03 | tga | MoodGladeGal, then you're probably rejecting connections from the LAN addressess.. fix your firewall |
| 01:10.31 | MoodGladeGal | in hosts.allow ? |
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| 01:11.43 | gentgeen__ | tga, that only returned 1496 -- that shows what I have installed right? |
| 01:12.38 | saidin | soo any help <.<? |
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| 01:12.56 | saidin | im trying to write to my floppy drive <.< but it says it has 56gb of stuff on it.. |
| 01:13.09 | saidin | and i can see it all >.> but its noting readable |
| 01:13.51 | virgomoon | Well, I got the new card in. The Windows machine can ping the Debian machine, but not the other way around. I've turned off the Windows firewall |
| 01:13.59 | gentgeen__ | saidin, that is a really big floppy!!!!! |
| 01:14.06 | saidin | lol i know |
| 01:14.09 | saidin | the thing is |
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| 01:14.16 | saidin | i dont even have a disk in it |
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| 01:14.36 | gentgeen__ | are you sure that /dev/floppy is pointing to the right thing then? |
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| 01:15.08 | saidin | no clue <.< |
| 01:15.12 | saidin | and its /mnt/floppy |
| 01:15.38 | gentgeen__ | saidin, from command line -- type "mount" |
| 01:15.50 | gentgeen__ | what does it say on the /mnt/floppy line |
| 01:16.03 | saidin | /dev/fd0 on /mnt/floppy type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=saidin) |
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| 01:17.25 | gentgeen__ | do a 'du -h', what does it say about the floopy? |
| 01:17.34 | gentgeen__ | s/o/p |
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| 01:17.53 | ysothoth | df -h |
| 01:18.13 | gentgeen__ | ysothoth, right,,,, sorry saidin |
| 01:18.14 | twentyone | how else can I remove rivafb support from my kernel, I've already tried deleting rivafb.ko to no avail |
| 01:18.33 | Guerin_ | !test |
| 01:18.33 | dpkg | No, guerin_, you're not online any more. |
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| 01:19.06 | saidin | /dev/fd0 713K 476K 237K 67% /mnt/floppy |
| 01:19.10 | gentgeen__ | twentyone, is it compiled in, or a module? |
| 01:19.39 | gentgeen__ | saidin, that looks ok -- only says there is 713K, not the 56gb you mentioned earlier |
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| 01:19.57 | saidin | well when i click the floppy drive button |
| 01:20.04 | lanannn | how can i change my $TERM in screen? |
| 01:20.09 | saidin | it shows it as 56gb |
| 01:20.43 | saidin | 59.9gb excuse me |
| 01:20.44 | gentgeen__ | saidin, which GUI are you using? |
| 01:20.54 | saidin | KDE |
| 01:20.58 | gentgeen__ | O-NO its growing ......... |
| 01:21.03 | Dathon | lanannn A guess would be #export TERM=xterm |
| 01:21.53 | gentgeen__ | saidin, I know next to nothing about KDE -- can you try writing to it using the command line? |
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| 01:22.24 | saidin | i did try |
| 01:22.25 | twentyone | I don't know gentgeen - possibly compiled in because module-assistant says "Your kernel was configured to use rivafb support!" "The rivafb driver conflicts with the NVIDIA drivers, please reconfigure your kernel and *disable* rivafb support, then try installing the NVIDIA kernel module again." "*** Failed rivafb sanity check. Bailing out!" |
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| 01:22.31 | saidin | thats how i figured out something was wrong |
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| 01:22.50 | saidin | was trying to write the boot.img file to it |
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| 01:23.57 | gentgeen__ | saidin, 'dd=boot.img if=/dev/floppy' I think that is what you should do |
| 01:24.00 | gentgeen__ | after unmounting it |
| 01:24.21 | gentgeen__ | twentyone, try 'modprobe -r rivafb' as root |
| 01:24.23 | CosmoDad | can anyone explain me why there's no more "localeconf" on my debian system even though I do have the package installed (according to dpkg -l)? |
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| 01:24.33 | saidin | i did that |
| 01:24.53 | saidin | $ dd if=filename of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync |
| 01:24.54 | saidin | well that |
| 01:25.00 | saidin | is what it said to write on the page |
| 01:25.19 | twentyone | I got this error: FATAL: Module rivafb not found |
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| 01:26.00 | gentgeen__ | twentyone, probably compiled in then, you would have to recompile without it |
| 01:26.06 | twentyone | I'll try to find out if it's called something else |
| 01:26.08 | twentyone | ooh |
| 01:26.17 | cheal | CosmoDad: why do you say there's no more "localeconf" on your system then? |
| 01:26.25 | twentyone | so that's something I need to do while running another kernel isn't it? |
| 01:26.29 | gentgeen__ | Are you using Debian... or a Debian child.... |
| 01:26.38 | twentyone | then gcc make this one |
| 01:26.48 | CosmoDad | cheal: I said: even though I *do* have the package installed |
| 01:26.55 | gentgeen__ | saidin, really stupid quetion.... you mentioned that the disk was not in, is it now?? |
| 01:26.58 | twentyone | I'm using Debian |
| 01:27.07 | cheal | twentyone: what's your kernel? |
| 01:27.09 | CosmoDad | cheal: the package is installed, but I cannot find the binary |
| 01:27.10 | ke6isf | twentyone: What version? |
| 01:27.12 | saidin | it is now |
| 01:27.20 | rixth | Whenever I install a kernel deb (that I've made) I always get 'FATAL: Module sata_via not found.' even though I have CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y |
| 01:27.20 | saidin | and it was at the time i tried before |
| 01:27.31 | twentyone | 3.1 |
| 01:27.37 | cheal | CosmoDad: because the localeconf package doesn't provide a localeconf binary? |
| 01:27.43 | gentgeen__ | saidin, then maybe a different floppy?? |
| 01:27.50 | HAMM3R | How can I remove xfree from the startup so that debian will run just with the console? |
| 01:27.59 | cheal | twentyone: if you have a 3.1 kernel, you're not using linux |
| 01:28.07 | CosmoDad | cheal: well no matter whether it's a script or a binary, trying to execute "localeconf" in bash fails |
| 01:28.10 | gentgeen__ | saidin, can't think of much else=== sorry |
| 01:28.10 | deadcat | !tell HAMM3R nodm |
| 01:28.21 | deadcat | !tell HAMM3R about nodm |
| 01:28.26 | twentyone | oh sorry - I thought you meant debian version |
| 01:28.39 | jbroome | !nodm |
| 01:28.39 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 01:28.40 | cheal | CosmoDad: right, since localeconf doesn't provide any localeconf command |
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| 01:29.05 | gentgeen__ | twentyone, 'uname -a' |
| 01:29.06 | twentyone | my linux kernel is 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp |
| 01:29.25 | flipmcf | hi. 'sudo who' returns nothing. I should at least see my self, shouldn't I? Has 'who' been compromised or am I paranoid? |
| 01:29.35 | CosmoDad | cheal: apt-cache show localeconf looks like it does |
| 01:29.53 | gentgeen__ | twentyone, if that is a Debian stock kernel (which it sounds like it is) I don |
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| 01:30.06 | twentyone | it is |
| 01:30.09 | AbsolutZer0 | whoot |
| 01:30.16 | gentgeen__ | sorry -- don't think rivafs is compiled in |
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| 01:30.40 | CosmoDad | cheal: I used to use "localeconf" before by installing that package |
| 01:30.41 | gentgeen__ | s/s/b |
| 01:30.44 | cheal | CosmoDad: what about you try # dpkg-reconfigure localeconf |
| 01:31.09 | twentyone | well - if module-assistant is just screwing up with it's detection - perhaps there is some way I can disable it's detection of rivafb |
| 01:31.20 | CosmoDad | cheal: me stupid... |
| 01:31.36 | CosmoDad | cheal: thanks for helping a dork |
| 01:31.49 | cheal | CosmoDad: heh. it happens to everyone. more than once :) |
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| 01:32.12 | gentgeen__ | TDS -- Temporary Dork Syndrome ??? |
| 01:32.17 | cheal | twentyone: you're trying to compile nvidia, right? |
| 01:32.25 | flipmcf | is it my turn to be a dork (see above ^^^^) |
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| 01:32.29 | flipmcf | ? |
| 01:32.32 | twentyone | right cheal |
| 01:32.46 | CosmoDad | cheal: I don't like the fact that there're some *conf binaries while some are just to be dpkg-reconfigure'd |
| 01:32.47 | twentyone | I've been trying to do this for about a week |
| 01:33.10 | gentgeen__ | twentyone, did you try the debian packages? |
| 01:33.23 | twentyone | bitchx and lynx are nice clients though |
| 01:33.33 | flipmcf | I'm in the middle of grabbing a new 'who' binary atm. Someone can stop me at any time. (save me work!) |
| 01:33.35 | gentgeen__ | I forget now what exactly I did, but I did not have to compile and everything worked fine.... |
| 01:33.37 | cheal | CosmoDad: it's that way. nobody is old enough to have built an entire OS by itself |
| 01:33.40 | twentyone | I didn't know there was a .deb for anything nvidia |
| 01:33.43 | gentgeen__ | been a while ago though |
| 01:34.02 | rixth | I'm tearing my hair out! Paste here: http://pastebin.com/366768 Whenever I install a kernel deb (that I've made) I always get 'FATAL: Module sata_via not found.' even though I have CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y |
| 01:34.25 | gentgeen__ | twentyone, 'apt-cache search nvidia' |
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| 01:35.01 | AbsolutZer0 | anyone know of a good text-only(console) ssh client for fro NTFS? |
| 01:35.01 | CosmoDad | cheal: true |
| 01:35.04 | twentyone | yeah my brother didn't need to recompile either - but the driver which comes with debian supports nVIDIA cards up to NV39 and my card is an NV43 |
| 01:35.11 | cheal | twentyone: don't tell me you're trying nvidia-installer? |
| 01:35.17 | twentyone | yup that found a bunch of things |
| 01:35.26 | twentyone | cheal nope but I did try it first |
| 01:35.33 | twentyone | then I tried dpkg's one liner |
| 01:35.38 | CosmoDad | cheal: Linus should never have handed over :) |
| 01:35.39 | twentyone | which is where I'm at at the moment |
| 01:35.53 | AbsolutZer0 | Also, how does one go about determining which Hardware is installed on your Linux system |
| 01:35.57 | cheal | CosmoDad: heh. Linus...will die soon |
| 01:36.17 | CosmoDad | cheal: ? |
| 01:36.29 | gentgeen__ | AbsolutZer0, open the box <GRIN> |
| 01:36.35 | AbsolutZer0 | lol |
| 01:36.48 | AbsolutZer0 | I know what hardware I have installed |
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| 01:37.10 | AbsolutZer0 | but for some reason KDE won't run higher 800x600 |
| 01:37.20 | virgomoon | Well, I got the new card in. The Windows machine can ping the Debian machine, but not the other way around. I've turned off the Windows firewall |
| 01:37.38 | virgomoon | I'm trying to set up a Debian gateway, but not having any luck |
| 01:37.42 | cheal | CosmoDad: Linus must have written a small portion of linux. and linux is a mini portion of debian. |
| 01:37.44 | AbsolutZer0 | and in my NT box the same card can manage 1024x768x32 |
| 01:37.57 | saidin | ummm |
| 01:38.05 | rixth | AbsolutZer0, lspci for hardware information and cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:38.05 | CosmoDad | cheal: yeah I know, what did you mean by dieing? |
| 01:38.10 | CosmoDad | cheal: dying even |
| 01:38.12 | saidin | dd=boot.img if=/dev/fd0 does nothing |
| 01:38.18 | saidin | or it shows it doing nothing |
| 01:38.18 | rixth | AbsolutZer0, look at your X server config |
| 01:38.21 | cheal | AbsolutZer0: what does that mean "anyone know of a good text-only(console) ssh client for fro NTFS?"? |
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| 01:38.44 | AbsolutZer0 | I have found SSG clients that use a UI |
| 01:38.48 | AbsolutZer0 | but they suck |
| 01:39.02 | gentgeen__ | saidin, if it works, you get an "in/out" message |
| 01:39.06 | twentyone | where would I find out which grub commands my nvidia kernel needs to boot? |
| 01:39.09 | AbsolutZer0 | I want a console based SSH client for NTFS i.e comand line only |
| 01:39.14 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: you could try a network sniffer and check whether the icmp packet actually leaves the windows box |
| 01:39.18 | netcat | saidin: you have the syntax wrong |
| 01:39.19 | AbsolutZer0 | where do i find the X server vonfig? |
| 01:39.22 | gentgeen__ | if it fails, it tells you why (kindof) |
| 01:39.23 | twentyone | !nvidia grub |
| 01:39.29 | saidin | that was syntax i was given lol |
| 01:39.32 | cheal | CosmoDad: he'll die before debian looks consistent |
| 01:39.41 | saidin | dd: reading `/dev/fd': Is a directory |
| 01:39.41 | saidin | 0+0 records in |
| 01:39.41 | saidin | 0+0 records out |
| 01:39.43 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: I mean the other way around |
| 01:39.45 | saidin | thats what i did before |
| 01:39.47 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: hmm... Doesn't Windows have a tcpdump style command? |
| 01:39.47 | AbsolutZer0 | crap |
| 01:39.48 | netcat | saidin: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/path/to/filename |
| 01:39.55 | cheal | twentyone: no bot will guess that |
| 01:39.59 | AbsolutZer0 | Gnome won't install...I hat KDE |
| 01:40.09 | AbsolutZer0 | it has telnet |
| 01:40.15 | AbsolutZer0 | I have Netcat installed |
| 01:40.18 | cheal | !drxx AbsolutZer0 |
| 01:40.19 | dpkg | AbsolutZer0: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:40.23 | CosmoDad | cheal: oh ok *phew* happy to hear said you meant _that_, you sounded crazy for a moment :) |
| 01:40.46 | AbsolutZer0 | thnakyou dpkg |
| 01:41.12 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: not sure, I haven't used Windows for years. But I think you're right |
| 01:41.15 | virgomoon | There's all kinds of crap out there about setting up iptables, but I need to be able to at least ping everyone |
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| 01:41.35 | AbsolutZer0 | but netcat just shows the SSH version when i login and thhen it disconnects |
| 01:41.45 | netcat | saidin: I use dd all of the time to make backups of my master boot record on the hard drive. |
| 01:41.46 | CosmoDad | cheal: s/said// |
| 01:41.53 | gentgeen__ | AbsolutZer0, do you know that dpkg is a BOT? |
| 01:42.09 | saidin | ok |
| 01:42.09 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: did you check iptables -L? |
| 01:42.18 | AbsolutZer0 | now I feel stupid |
| 01:42.31 | gentgeen__ | AbsolutZer0, now you have the TDS..... |
| 01:42.45 | gentgeen__ | <GRIN> |
| 01:42.46 | redmoth | how silly |
| 01:42.47 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: it would make more sense if I knew what I was looking at, lol |
| 01:42.49 | cheal | AbsolutZer0: you want a SSH client for a specific filesystem? |
| 01:42.54 | CosmoDad | gentgeen__: it's not a guy waiting for people to start typing "!" ? ;) |
| 01:42.57 | AbsolutZer0 | yes |
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| 01:43.01 | saidin | dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/saidin/download/boot.img |
| 01:43.05 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: can't I just clear all that until I get them both talking? |
| 01:43.08 | saidin | dosnt do anything just goes blank |
| 01:43.11 | cheal | AbsolutZer0: how's that supposed to be useful? |
| 01:43.16 | saidin | nevermind it worked |
| 01:43.31 | saidin | dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error |
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| 01:43.35 | quadrata | *boing* |
| 01:43.38 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: well you have to make sure no iptables rule is actually prohibiting ICMP from leaving your Linux box |
| 01:43.40 | gentgeen__ | CosmoDad, ;-) |
| 01:43.42 | AbsolutZer0 | NTFS i.e Windows 200 Professional/Windows XP Pro |
| 01:43.45 | rixth | I could relaly use some help you guys. Everyone must have me on ignore or something. I can't use any compiled kernel because sata_via doesn't get built. |
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| 01:44.22 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: ok ... REJECT all -- anywhere anywhere reject-with icmp-port-unreachable ... ?? That one? |
| 01:44.31 | virgomoon | under Chain FORWARD |
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| 01:44.37 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: possibly |
| 01:44.55 | gentgeen__ | saidin, that command you typed -- that says to use the floppy as the "in" and boot.img as the "out" |
| 01:44.59 | gentgeen__ | I think you want it the other way |
| 01:44.59 | virgomoon | if you just clear the whole table, won't that make it easier to debug? |
| 01:45.07 | cheal | rixth: it's normal that there's no module if you have CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y |
| 01:45.41 | gentgeen__ | saidin, and your error tells me (1) bad floppy or (2) no floppy |
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| 01:45.57 | lakcaj | rixth, I think there is an option in code maturity to only build modules that are expected to compile cleanly |
| 01:46.09 | quadrata | Agrajag-, lol |
| 01:46.11 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: are those machines connected directly? I mean without any other machine inbetween? |
| 01:46.14 | lakcaj | maybe worth taking a look |
| 01:46.15 | prjktdtnt | what is the url (or apt source) for the unofficial repositories? |
| 01:46.17 | quadrata | man, I should have stole that nick |
| 01:46.19 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: or is there a router or something? |
| 01:46.27 | lakcaj | prjktdtnt, apt-get.org? |
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| 01:46.34 | cheal | prjktdtnt: which unofficial repositories? |
| 01:46.43 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: it does if you don't have to rely on any rule you just cleared |
| 01:46.52 | prjktdtnt | cheal: uhh i marillat or something like that (sp?) |
| 01:47.02 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: no, they're going through a Netgear Hub |
| 01:47.02 | cheal | !tell prjktdtnt about marillat |
| 01:47.11 | prjktdtnt | cheal: thx |
| 01:47.13 | cheal | prjktdtnt: which is *one* unofficial repository |
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| 01:47.32 | saidin | soo if i change the if and of in the command it changes the in and out? |
| 01:47.33 | rixth | lakcaj, thanks, I'll check it out. cheal why do you say that? If I say i want it, shouldn't it be built |
| 01:47.34 | lakcaj | prjktdtnt, you could find that repo by going to apt-get.org and searching for mplayer |
| 01:47.36 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: ok but apart from that no additional *machine* inbetween? |
| 01:47.42 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: can you ping the 'doze box now? |
| 01:47.53 | gentgeen__ | virgomoon, do you have them both on the correct ports (i.e. none on the WAN port) |
| 01:47.56 | cheal | rixth: yes, but not as a module if you set it to "y" |
| 01:47.57 | virgomoon | nope and nope, but the Windows can ping the Debian |
| 01:48.01 | netcat | saidin: if="input file" of="output file" |
| 01:48.13 | rixth | virgomoon, have you disabled the Xp 'firewall' |
| 01:48.18 | virgomoon | rixth: yes |
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| 01:48.26 | rixth | cheal, does it need to be built as a module |
| 01:48.29 | virgomoon | gentgeen__: you mean the right ports on the hub? |
| 01:48.30 | gentgeen__ | saidin, yes, but you might have just messed up your image for the command you gave earilier |
| 01:48.34 | gentgeen__ | virgomoon, yes |
| 01:48.43 | virgomoon | gentgeen__: yes, both lights green |
| 01:48.46 | cheal | rixth: no idea. |
| 01:48.48 | rixth | lakcaj, CLEAN_COMPILE is set to N |
| 01:48.53 | gentgeen__ | virgomoon, mine has 5 ports, 1 for WAN and 4 for "inside" |
| 01:49.01 | gentgeen__ | all yours on "inside" |
| 01:49.04 | gentgeen__ | ?? |
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| 01:49.19 | virgomoon | gentgeen__: this one is port 8 can be either depending on the uplink/normal switch |
| 01:49.40 | saidin | dd: opening `/dev/fd0': Read-only file system |
| 01:49.55 | virgomoon | would this have something to do with the routing table? |
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| 01:50.05 | gentgeen__ | saidin, is the floppy still mounted? |
| 01:50.09 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: yeah, could be |
| 01:50.17 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: route -n might help |
| 01:50.18 | saidin | yes |
| 01:50.20 | lakcaj | rixth, try setting it to yes and see if you can get past that compile error. Do you need the module that the compile is barfing on? If that is the case, CLEAN_COMPILE might not suite your needs. |
| 01:50.24 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: or just route |
| 01:50.25 | netcat | saidin: Did you check to see if the write protect was enabled? |
| 01:50.25 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: checked that, but it 'looks' fine |
| 01:50.31 | gentgeen__ | saidin, don |
| 01:50.33 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: pastebin? |
| 01:50.36 | gentgeen__ | UGH sorry |
| 01:50.44 | gentgeen__ | don't mount if you are doing dd |
| 01:50.57 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: standby, I'll have to prep it as I can't paste from this term window ... |
| 01:51.29 | saidin | the little tab is off |
| 01:51.40 | rixth | lakcaj, no no! The compile is successful, it just ignores builidng that module. |
| 01:51.47 | virgomoon | !dpkg pastebin |
| 01:51.47 | dpkg | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca |
| 01:51.54 | netcat | needs to be closed to write |
| 01:52.11 | gentgeen__ | theres that dpkg guy again -- he is fast ;-) |
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| 01:52.27 | gentgeen__ | saidin, and not mounted |
| 01:52.35 | WiFiTux | heya, will debian work fine on a SPARCII box? |
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| 01:52.44 | jlj_ | we have a suspiciously behaving machine that has 100% cpu usage although top only shows normal values, is there any way to check if there are any hidden processes running? |
| 01:52.59 | lakcaj | rixth, ok, nm what I suggested then... I should be paying more attention :) |
| 01:53.07 | WiFiTux | jlj_: check the top information of top, not the %'s |
| 01:53.18 | virgomoon | http://pastebin.ca/23237 |
| 01:53.20 | saidin | ? |
| 01:53.36 | prjktdtnt | does anyone know what other unofficial repositories have the w32codec packages for amd64 |
| 01:53.41 | gentgeen__ | saidin, if you are going to use dd, then the floppy should not be mounted |
| 01:53.42 | prjktdtnt | marillat for amd64 is down |
| 01:53.53 | gentgeen__ | you mentioned to me that it was mounted |
| 01:53.54 | netcat | saidin: If you were trying to copy the boot.img file to the floppy then you have corrupted the boot.img file using the dd command the wrong way. |
| 01:53.56 | saidin | eeh... |
| 01:54.02 | jlj_ | WiFiTux: load average is 1.00 1.00, the colums add upp to about 1% usage..hm |
| 01:54.05 | saidin | <.< |
| 01:54.13 | gentgeen__ | saidin, and what netcat just said |
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| 01:54.50 | netcat | saidin: You need to delete that corrupted boot.img file and copy a new one in its place. |
| 01:54.51 | host` | now, this is fun stuff |
| 01:54.55 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: yeah looks ok |
| 01:55.03 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: have you tried using a different port? |
| 01:55.09 | saidin | well i redownloaded the boot.img |
| 01:55.11 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: to make sure it's not an hardware issue.. |
| 01:55.13 | virgomoon | on the hub? |
| 01:55.17 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: yeah |
| 01:56.19 | virgomoon | same results, Windows can ping Deb, but not other way around |
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| 01:56.45 | saidin | now it gives this |
| 01:56.46 | saidin | 1441+0 records in |
| 01:56.46 | saidin | 1440+0 records out |
| 01:57.05 | soto | Can someone tell me how to unninstall mplayer? |
| 01:57.15 | sputnik_ | rm |
| 01:57.23 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: can you paste iptables -L content? |
| 01:57.24 | sputnik_ | or make uninstall |
| 01:57.36 | lakcaj | soto, how did you install it? |
| 01:57.38 | netcat | I think it should be OK to use. I would try it. |
| 01:57.38 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: or would you have to type it all in? |
| 01:57.41 | deadcat | apt-get remove mplayer |
| 01:57.50 | virgomoon | no, just a couple steps, hold on |
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| 01:58.14 | hogmeat | how do i mount an ftp site as if it were a local directory? |
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| 01:58.24 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: oh and I'm not sure whether Windows needs to be rebooted to make the disabled firewall take effect, maybe you wanna check that too |
| 01:58.24 | prjktdtnt | apt-get --purge remove mplayer |
| 01:58.27 | saidin | whats the command to format the floppy then |
| 01:58.34 | prjktdtnt | err that was for soto |
| 01:58.35 | soto | i did both ways,apt-get remove mplayer and rm mplayer.then installed again and gmplayer doesn load! |
| 01:58.55 | deadcat | mformat a: |
| 01:59.00 | soto | i used that too prjkdtnt |
| 01:59.11 | prjktdtnt | soto: check the dpkg manpage |
| 01:59.17 | paolob | Hi guys! How can I enable vino (gnome remote desktop) via ssh? thank you! |
| 01:59.22 | prjktdtnt | soto: should have the dpkg-remove equiv |
| 01:59.40 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: http://pastebin.ca/23238 |
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| 01:59.58 | buu | Would anyone mind giving me the commands I need for ipconfig to forward a specific port to another box? |
| 02:00.07 | saidin | keeps saying device busy even when i take out disk |
| 02:00.10 | buu | Er, not ipconfig, iptables, or whatever it's using |
| 02:00.36 | saidin | also when i look into it theres a bunc of files all with the lock symbol on it |
| 02:00.56 | virgomoon | buu: what are you doing over here? |
| 02:01.01 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: do you have any nat-table entries? iptables -L -t nat |
| 02:01.11 | netcat | sounds like it was still mounted |
| 02:01.18 | buu | virgomoon: Sacrificing small children |
| 02:01.23 | saidin | oh ya ill try to unmount lol |
| 02:01.42 | saidin | forgot to unmount |
| 02:01.44 | netcat | put the disk back in the drive first |
| 02:01.45 | prjktdtnt | soto: dont feel bad I need some codecs but the amd64 marillat repository is down and no-one answered my question as to wether or not there was another repository with the windows32 codecs package |
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| 02:02.22 | buu | virgomoon: So how do I do port forwarding? |
| 02:02.23 | netcat | the disk does not need to be mounted if you are using dd |
| 02:02.24 | kane_ | How do I install x11-base in debian? |
| 02:02.48 | kane_ | I have a debian system ready to go, but I can't find the package to get the base install of x11 |
| 02:02.52 | kane_ | I searched with apt-cache |
| 02:02.54 | fisious | buu what do you want to forward? |
| 02:03.14 | buu | fisious: I have a linux box acting as a nat gateway for a windows box. I wish to make the windows box available on a specific port. |
| 02:03.15 | virgomoon | buu: stick around, that's what we're trying to figure out, lol |
| 02:03.27 | buu | kane_: x-windowing-system, I think |
| 02:03.28 | prjktdtnt | kane_: which x server do you like xorg or xfree86? |
| 02:03.36 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: http://pastebin.ca/23239 |
| 02:03.37 | fisious | buu do you have iptables running and dnsmasq etc? |
| 02:03.43 | buu | fisious: ipchains I think |
| 02:03.48 | soto | prjktdtnt i just used it and worked fine.10 min ago. deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 02:03.56 | kane_ | I am using sarge 3.1.. is Xorg good on that? |
| 02:04.00 | kane_ | or should I just stick with X11 |
| 02:04.07 | prjktdtnt | soto: thats the i386 repos i need amd64 |
| 02:04.22 | buu | fisious: No, wait, I'm running iptables. |
| 02:04.25 | fisious | i'm only familiar with iptabes rules. i'll put a script that appends to my firewall rule on my box for you to look at. otherwise someone else may answer your question |
| 02:04.39 | fisious | buu okay. give me a moment |
| 02:04.43 | prjktdtnt | kane_: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 x-window-system |
| 02:04.57 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: can't see no error... |
| 02:05.07 | virgomoon | weird |
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| 02:05.29 | fisious | buu do you understand your iptables setup? |
| 02:05.34 | soto | i know only the unstable one.want it? |
| 02:05.35 | abookateeka | hello |
| 02:05.39 | saidin | dd: writing to `/dev/fd0': Input/output error |
| 02:05.40 | saidin | 409+0 records in |
| 02:05.40 | saidin | 408+0 records out |
| 02:05.45 | saidin | >< |
| 02:05.59 | virgomoon | is there some other way to check for traffic going to the windows box? |
| 02:06.02 | deadcat | saidin: buy new floppies and stop pasting your dd output |
| 02:06.12 | saidin | srry |
| 02:06.16 | virgomoon | There's a yahoo IM on it I can see from tcpdump is trying to get out, but no back traffic |
| 02:06.25 | buu | fisious: Well, I thought I did. But when I do iptables -L, it doesn't list my nat rules. |
| 02:06.26 | gentgeen__ | saidin, all really needed was the first line ;-) |
| 02:06.35 | saidin | i didnt know lol |
| 02:06.37 | prjktdtnt | soto: anything that has the windows32 codec package for amd64 |
| 02:06.39 | virgomoon | it's orginating from a private IP address though, so that makes sense |
| 02:06.45 | soto | this is the stable for amd64 not sure if the link is down deb http://cyberspace.ucla.edu/marillat/ sarge main |
| 02:06.56 | prjktdtnt | soto: down till october |
| 02:06.57 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: you have internet connectivity on that deb box do you? try ethereal and see if the package leaves correctly |
| 02:06.58 | fisious | okay. i have to go out. but this is one of the scripts i run when i want the rules open |
| 02:07.00 | buu | fisious: Oh wait, there it goes. |
| 02:07.11 | fisious | buu http://fisious.homeip.net/buu/ |
| 02:07.23 | fisious | see if you understand that |
| 02:07.27 | soto | try the unstable then deb http://cyberspace.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main |
| 02:07.30 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: lol, you're loosing me, let me check for that one |
| 02:07.41 | buu | fisious: Seems simple enough. |
| 02:07.45 | prjktdtnt | soto: all of cyberspace.ucla is down untill october |
| 02:08.02 | prjktdtnt | soto: thats what i have been trying to explain is that none of them work right now |
| 02:08.07 | fisious | buu you can copy and paste that into your iptables-firewall and obvisouly change the ports udp/tcp and destinations to act for other services |
| 02:08.17 | gentgeen__ | prjktdtnt, just curious, do you know why/ |
| 02:08.17 | buu | fisious: Yep, thanks |
| 02:08.34 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: it's downloading now ... |
| 02:08.36 | fisious | buu but i don't always want my pports forwarded so i have that as a script. i think it's set to 655 |
| 02:08.41 | soto | i c.have a lokk in here.there are lots of morrios for amd64.one of then should have win32codecs http://amd64.debian.net/README.mirrors.html |
| 02:08.41 | fisious | it must be executeable |
| 02:08.49 | fisious | buu. good luck. i have to go out |
| 02:08.49 | buu | fisious: Hrm. Why do you need prerouting and forward? |
| 02:08.51 | buu | =/ |
| 02:09.01 | prjktdtnt | gentgeen__: not a clue as to why but it wont get those in apt-get update and i read the marillat page and it says down till october |
| 02:09.03 | fisious | buu i don't know. it just works for me. |
| 02:09.03 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: did you see my "windows reboot" question before? |
| 02:09.06 | buu | fisious: heh, ok |
| 02:09.09 | buu | thanks again. |
| 02:09.09 | virgomoon | no |
| 02:09.11 | fisious | if someone tells me different i won't do it |
| 02:09.18 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: oh and I'm not sure whether Windows needs to be rebooted to make the disabled firewall take effect, maybe you wanna check that too |
| 02:09.23 | karma1 | I currently have gaim 1.2.1 installed, but would like to upgrade to the latest version, 1.5.0... however, apt-get tells me I have the latest version, so how can I go updating to the latest version? |
| 02:09.30 | gentgeen__ | prjktdtnt, thanks |
| 02:09.40 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: that one, I'm reltively certain that it doesn't |
| 02:10.01 | Guerin_ | karma1: you can't, unless you change to a different release of debian, find a backport, or build it yourself. |
| 02:10.09 | Guerin_ | karma1: why do you want to upgrade? |
| 02:10.10 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: ok |
| 02:10.19 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: is this WinXP? |
| 02:10.20 | gentgeen__ | karma1, either compile yourself or wait till it is in the repository |
| 02:10.47 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: goddamn Norton |
| 02:10.52 | Guerin_ | gentgeen__: which may be never, if he's using stable |
| 02:10.55 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: disabled that and it worked |
| 02:10.56 | karma1 | Guerin_: just figured I was doing something wrong which was causing it to come up as the latest version, so I was curious to see if I should update |
| 02:11.11 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: lol |
| 02:11.16 | prjktdtnt | ok does anyone know any other UNofficial deb servers for amd64 (cause the official ones do NOT have the w32codecs package)? |
| 02:11.16 | Guerin_ | karma1: unless you need some specific functionality which is in the new version, don't bother. |
| 02:11.20 | gentgeen__ | Guerin_, never is a long time... NEXT to never ;-) |
| 02:11.26 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: yeah Norton is notorious for doing these kinds of things |
| 02:11.29 | karma1 | Guerin_: ahh gotcha, ty sir |
| 02:11.30 | Guerin_ | gentgeen__: no... never, in the case of sarge. |
| 02:11.41 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: ok, did those iptables entries look like NAT is configured? |
| 02:11.57 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: by bad, I concentrated too much on the network layer so I forgot to ask you for freakish windows apps ;) |
| 02:12.02 | Guerin_ | ugh, people still use norton? |
| 02:12.09 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: same here |
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| 02:12.38 | prjktdtnt | Guerin_: norton = yuck...then again anything that is requiring windows = yuck period |
| 02:12.41 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: quiet |
| 02:13.04 | virgomoon | quiet? |
| 02:13.28 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: yeah NATing should wor |
| 02:13.29 | CosmoDad | k |
| 02:13.34 | CosmoDad | quite :) |
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| 02:13.37 | virgomoon | ah |
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| 02:13.40 | prjktdtnt | well i guess i will never know the answer to muh question...will return at another time |
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| 02:14.29 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: hmm, it's not though, let me go back to one of these 'tutorial' pages and try to config from there |
| 02:14.48 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: did you set up your windows box to use the linux box as router? |
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| 02:15.18 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: yeah, static IP, gateway points to Linux box, etc |
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| 02:15.34 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: have you set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to 1 ? |
| 02:15.52 | virgomoon | that's the echo 1 > /proc .. etc? |
| 02:16.13 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: right |
| 02:16.21 | virgomoon | I think, but I'll do it again |
| 02:17.16 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: remember to use IP names for masquerading testing unless you have DNS set up on Windows |
| 02:17.25 | lemur | step back, jack, do it again |
| 02:17.26 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: sry numbers, _not_ names |
| 02:18.02 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: It worked!! ... I love you |
| 02:18.14 | lemur | I now pronounce you, user and support |
| 02:18.25 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: ;) |
| 02:18.38 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: what did you change? the "1" ? |
| 02:18.45 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: yeah |
| 02:18.55 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: awesome, man. :) |
| 02:18.55 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: Thank you for all the help. |
| 02:18.59 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: np |
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| 02:20.04 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: check /etc/networking/options to make the echo 1 > ... command be permanent |
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| 02:20.20 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: otherwise, after next reboot your ip_forward setting will be back to 0 |
| 02:20.46 | virgomoon | CosmoDad: alrighty .. I've seen a lot of tutorials on this that have scripts and such. I just wasn't getting past step 1. Now I can go back and actually figure out what they were talking about |
| 02:21.06 | CosmoDad | virgomoon: that's a Good Thing |
| 02:21.19 | gentgeen__ | !beer CosmoDad |
| 02:21.48 | gentgeen__ | !dpkg beer CosmoDad |
| 02:21.57 | gentgeen__ | CRAP -- I can't remember now :-) |
| 02:22.07 | CosmoDad | :) |
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| 02:24.30 | legind | hello, im wondering why there's no package for esddsp, and the best way to get a program like totem that doesn't have inbuilt esd support to conform to esd |
| 02:26.20 | Bac9 | legind: there is esddsp, it's in esd-tools or somesuch |
| 02:26.33 | Bac9 | legind: go see @ packages.debian.org |
| 02:27.23 | gentgeen__ | legind, esound-clients |
| 02:28.47 | legind | ok great, thanks! |
| 02:28.57 | gentgeen__ | legind, for next time -- http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents |
| 02:29.10 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.12 | gentgeen__ | ;) |
| 02:29.31 | gentgeen__ | Guerin, thinking the same thing... |
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| 02:31.25 | gentgeen__ | totem is a movie player for the GNOME desktop. Through use of the xine backend -- since Xine has esd support, I assume totem does... |
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| 02:32.39 | gentgeen__ | from the man page |
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| 02:33.05 | Guerin | stupid gnome |
| 02:33.10 | lemur | Do I have to install an ntp server to update through ntp? |
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| 02:33.30 | Guerin | lemur: no |
| 02:33.36 | Guerin | lemur: install ntpdate |
| 02:33.41 | lemur | Guerin: thanks |
| 02:34.18 | netcat | lemur: You can also use ntpd with the -q (I think) option. |
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| 02:34.45 | lemur | what's a good ntp server? |
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| 02:34.51 | Guerin | pool.ntp.org |
| 02:34.58 | Bac9 | lemur: the one closest to you |
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| 02:35.25 | lemur | Bac9: true enough, but I don't plan to update very often |
| 02:35.42 | netcat | One that is easy to remember: 128.100.100.128 |
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| 02:35.51 | lemur | ah, setting up debian was so easy |
| 02:35.51 | Bac9 | lemur: it's not the upfdates but the rtt that matters |
| 02:36.23 | lemur | Bac9: Yeah, but I trust the algorithm, and I don't require accuracy to the millisecond |
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| 02:36.31 | YaleR | hello everyone, I'm trying to get more language support so I reconfigured locales, I still don't get any new fonts or anything and I can't seem to find any packages for them - any suggestions? |
| 02:36.55 | Bac9 | lemur: algorithm depends on rtt |
| 02:37.10 | lemur | Bac9: yes |
| 02:37.33 | Bac9 | YaleR: fonts != locales |
| 02:37.45 | YaleR | Bac9: thanks, makes sense now |
| 02:37.51 | YaleR | :p |
| 02:37.58 | Bac9 | YaleR: you're welcome |
| 02:38.03 | YaleR | Bac9: so what is locales about? |
| 02:38.23 | YaleR | just like... the money symbol? and heyboard maps? |
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| 02:38.48 | Schiz0 | Anyone know if there is a package for ssl support with apache2 ? |
| 02:39.00 | gentgeen__ | and the language, dates formats, etc (from what I understand) |
| 02:39.01 | Bac9 | YaleR: how things look, e.g. does a thousand get seperated by a comma or space, what order date written in, if it's 8bit locale then what's upper 128 characters look like, etc |
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| 02:39.13 | Garda | hey guys |
| 02:39.15 | YaleR | Bac9: ah, so what should I do for fonts? |
| 02:39.27 | Bac9 | YaleR: install the fonts packages |
| 02:39.34 | Garda | got a questions. how do i turn off an ipod mini. it's playing a song and i can't turn it off |
| 02:39.47 | ysothoth | rip out the battery |
| 02:39.48 | YaleR | Bac9: are they all randomly named? |
| 02:39.57 | ysothoth | what does that have to do with debian |
| 02:40.04 | gentgeen__ | Throw it against a wall?! |
| 02:40.05 | Schiz0 | Garda- Erm..why are you asking this here? and you hold down the stop or pause button or one of them |
| 02:40.32 | Bac9 | YaleR: just search for packages containing word "font", most of them are xfont or ttf or somesuch |
| 02:40.34 | Garda | Well, i'm here so why not ask. if you guys know |
| 02:40.49 | YaleR | Garda: er... hit stop button twice? |
| 02:40.57 | YaleR | I'm not really sure... I don't have an ipod |
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| 02:41.49 | Schiz0 | Is there a mod_ssl package for apache2? I could only find one for apache1, but its kinda hard to imagine that apache2 doesn't have ssl support |
| 02:41.50 | makad | YaleR: unicode-howto. |
| 02:41.54 | Garda | which one is the stop button. there is the one in the middle. next song. previous song, pause and the menu button. the menu button does nothing |
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| 02:42.01 | gentgeen__ | Bac9, what are you looking for/want to do??? |
| 02:42.01 | _gass_ | hello |
| 02:42.10 | Schiz0 | Garda- Just hold a button down, or RTFM |
| 02:42.18 | makad | Schiz0: ssl module in apache2 --- fully automatic. |
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| 02:42.20 | Garda | wait. i figured it out. locked the keypad. i am such a newb |
| 02:42.23 | _gass_ | after installing amule, i only see small fonts, almos unreadable |
| 02:42.31 | _gass_ | almost* |
| 02:42.36 | soto | anyone know how do i completely remove mplayer from my system? |
| 02:42.39 | Schiz0 | makad- So it comes built in? |
| 02:42.41 | Bac9 | gentgeen__: me? nothing, YaleR wants fonts |
| 02:42.44 | _gass_ | does anyone knows the solution? |
| 02:42.46 | Schiz0 | soto- apt-get remove --purge mplayer |
| 02:42.49 | rnN | how can I see all packages have installed? |
| 02:42.55 | EdLin | !anyone |
| 02:42.55 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> consider the answer to be "yes" if the program is actually in Debian.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 02:42.55 | Schiz0 | rnN- aptitude |
| 02:42.56 | gentgeen__ | Bac9, sorry |
| 02:43.03 | Bac9 | gentgeen__: :-) |
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| 02:43.10 | makad | rnN: dpkg -l |
| 02:43.14 | YaleR | gentgeen__: get all of the fonts in tne world |
| 02:43.19 | netcat | rnN: dpkg -l | less |
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| 02:43.41 | _gass_ | soto: apt-get remove --purge? |
| 02:43.48 | soto | schizo i compiled the program by my self,i got it from the official home page |
| 02:43.51 | rnN | thnks |
| 02:44.03 | Schiz0 | soto- then updatedb then do locate mplayer |
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| 02:44.08 | Schiz0 | and rm all the files? |
| 02:44.11 | _gass_ | soto: make uninstall |
| 02:44.15 | gentgeen__ | YaleR, silly question -- does amule have a font size setting? |
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| 02:44.30 | gentgeen__ | Don't use it, but since P2P I assume it is a GUI app |
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| 02:44.57 | soto | gass i got put parameters right? |
| 02:45.04 | soto | like -rm or something |
| 02:45.09 | makad | soto: re-install mplayer. only this time running script. now you will get list of all files installed. remove them. |
| 02:45.32 | _gass_ | soto: like you mkae "make install" to install it, write "make uninstall" |
| 02:45.33 | YaleR | gentgeen__: amule?? lol.... |
| 02:45.46 | netcat | soto: Next time you want to use a non Debian source package, you might want to investigate "checkinstall". |
| 02:45.46 | legind | hm, even esddsp doesn't work for totem, and i can't find any esd options in totem. any suggestions? |
| 02:46.28 | makad | legind: what is actual problem? |
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| 02:46.52 | legind | i want to integrate video-playing software with the esd sound daemon |
| 02:46.59 | gentgeen__ | YaleR, I got your font question messed with _gass_ amule post and commented to Bac9 about what you wanted ....sorry |
| 02:47.11 | YaleR | gentgeen__: its' no prob |
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| 02:47.24 | VolVE | hey all, so, I've read conflicting reports regarding XFS; is there a matching 'shrink' utility such as xfs_growfs? :) |
| 02:47.31 | makad | legind: please note that Mr. Alan Cox has declared esd is bad. |
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| 02:48.09 | soto | Actually i want to have it on my pc,the problem is that it doens load.when i type gmplayer it says :command not found.osure there was a problem on the instalation.Any clueon what should i do now? |
| 02:48.09 | legind | makad, do you know of any better program for multiple programs using the same sound card simultaneously? |
| 02:48.28 | makad | legind: ah. the real problem. playing multiple sounds. |
| 02:48.31 | gentgeen__ | legind, not really sure that you need esd -- since totem is a GNOME app |
| 02:48.33 | mfrisch | soto try mplayer.. |
| 02:48.40 | Bac9 | legind: alsa |
| 02:48.43 | YaleR | legind: you need a software mixer? |
| 02:48.59 | soto | mfrisch what u mean? |
| 02:49.10 | makad | legind: if you are using alsa (if you are using linux ver 2.6 the you are using alsa). then this is in-built. |
| 02:49.31 | soto | the command is gmplayer |
| 02:49.40 | mfrisch | soto mplayer is my command. type it and then it calls gmplayer |
| 02:49.43 | legind | gentgeen__, well totem sends sounds to the onboard sound controller, rather than my pci sound card |
| 02:50.02 | makad | legind: in #flood i am pasting a file which you keep as .asoundrc. Then *all* sound playing simultaneously. |
| 02:50.02 | soto | it doesn work in my pc |
| 02:50.25 | YaleR | makad: I messaged legind a link to an .asoundrc file |
| 02:50.31 | YaleR | I don't know if he got it... |
| 02:50.35 | legind | makad: unfortunately i have a 2.4 kernel |
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| 02:51.09 | legind | YaleR, yes i got it, thanks |
| 02:51.12 | gentgeen__ | legind, what are you trying -- are you trying to use 2 different sound cards for different apps? |
| 02:51.28 | Bac9 | legind: esd, nas, arts, rplay, ysound |
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| 02:51.47 | legind | gentgeen__, no i'm trying to use just my pci sound card for everything |
| 02:52.16 | gentgeen__ | sounds like a config problem then, not a totem (or esd) problem |
| 02:52.31 | makad | legind: but is there /proc/asound? |
| 02:52.42 | gentgeen__ | I only have an on board, so sorry, can't help much :( |
| 02:52.55 | Garda | i'm wanting to setup a server for chat/file sharing on a small network. what would you guys remommend. i want something open and with clients for heaps of architectures. a guy recommended opendchub on linux. is there anything else |
| 02:52.59 | legind | makad: ls: /proc/asound: No such file or directory |
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| 02:53.19 | gentgeen__ | Garda, jabber maybe |
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| 02:53.37 | Bac9 | legind: /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp2 <- check which of those is your pci card, then config your app to use correct device |
| 02:53.39 | makad | legind: ok. so lets try esd. |
| 02:53.45 | christor | Hi |
| 02:53.57 | christor | Please is ti possible to install a NFS master and slave? |
| 02:54.04 | makad | legind: have you enabled startup of esound daemon on GNOME desktop? |
| 02:54.05 | Garda | does jabber allow file sharing? |
| 02:54.16 | lemur | Garda: it has a file transfer protocol |
| 02:54.26 | legind | Bac9, will i have to use the "esddsp totem -d /dev/dsp" command, or is esddsp redundant in this case |
| 02:54.31 | lemur | you can share files, but not passively |
| 02:54.39 | legind | makad: yes i added it to init.d |
| 02:54.55 | makad | christor: both. |
| 02:55.18 | Garda | lemur: what does passively mean |
| 02:55.21 | Bac9 | legind: get esd to use correct dsp device |
| 02:55.23 | makad | legind: is esd running? (ps -ax | grep esd) |
| 02:55.24 | legind | makad: which is funny cause first i just put the "esd" command and not "esd &" in startup and the system halted at that point. |
| 02:55.38 | legind | yes it is |
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| 02:55.48 | legind | makad: yes, esd is running as a daemon |
| 02:55.48 | nvz | Garda: means to offer shares that anyone can get to at any time like FTP, as opposed to just selecting a file and a destination and sending it |
| 02:55.55 | lemur | Garda: its a word that I have chosen in this sense to mean that you can't just be open for downloads all the time...you have to actually send the file (ie active) |
| 02:56.11 | mfrisch | how fast is tftp? |
| 02:56.19 | makad | legind: esdplay some.wav file |
| 02:56.26 | YaleR | mfrisch: fast, like ftp for me |
| 02:56.47 | legind | makad: it's definitely working, xmms is using the daemon right now. |
| 02:56.47 | makad | mfrisch: faster thant light. |
| 02:56.51 | mfrisch | YaleR so multicasting is no prob? |
| 02:56.54 | gentgeen__ | makad, just fyi esd=esound daemon ;) |
| 02:57.07 | makad | legind: so only problem is totem? |
| 02:57.11 | legind | yes |
| 02:57.14 | YaleR | mfrisch: I maxed my upload (80kb/s) with it..... it isn't like samba or anything... |
| 02:57.25 | YaleR | multicasting? |
| 02:57.50 | mfrisch | YaleR cool THANKS...is that localnet? |
| 02:57.55 | makad | legind: what aabout preferences menu for totem? |
| 02:58.00 | YaleR | mfrisch: nope, interweb |
| 02:58.01 | legind | makad: and checking the totem man page, there's no way to specify the sound device totem uses |
| 02:58.22 | YaleR | mfrisch: let me try local, its a good question |
| 02:58.23 | legind | makad: doesn't specify anything, not the sound device or wheather to use esd |
| 02:58.27 | astronut | what's a good linux wifi pcmcia card? |
| 02:58.31 | astronut | 802.11g |
| 02:58.34 | astronut | i think mine is going |
| 02:58.42 | nvz | localnet and interweb are not proper teminology as far as I am concerned. its Internet and Intranet |
| 02:59.02 | deadcat | astronut: prism54 chipsets |
| 02:59.04 | makad | legind: then im in deep water here --- can't swim. |
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| 02:59.09 | astronut | deadcat: over orrinco? |
| 02:59.12 | astronut | and who makes one with it? |
| 02:59.14 | astronut | and what model? |
| 02:59.15 | soto | can someone tell me where mplayer is locatted after running apt-get install mplayer-686? |
| 02:59.18 | deadcat | astronut: orinoco is shit. and its b |
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| 02:59.26 | astronut | soto: /usr/bin |
| 02:59.29 | astronut | deadcat: ah |
| 02:59.31 | deadcat | astronut: search online. |
| 02:59.35 | soto | cheers |
| 02:59.35 | hogmeat | folks i tried apt-get install build-essential, and received 'unmet dependencies' errors. http://pastebin.ca/23243 anyone know how to fix? |
| 02:59.36 | nvz | soto: dpkg -L mplayer-686 |
| 02:59.40 | mfrisch | nvz :-)~ its been a long day...you are correct |
| 03:00.07 | mwilson | nvz: You don't actually expect him to look for himself, do you? |
| 03:00.12 | Lilldude | liable |
| 03:00.20 | legind | makad, ok thanks anyway |
| 03:01.21 | cosmo_ | anyone in here former gentoo users? |
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| 03:01.37 | YaleR | mfrisch: connecting to a 200mhz box locally with slow drives I usually get 1-3 mb/s with ftp with sftp I get 700-900 kb/s I assume because of the encryption |
| 03:01.39 | gentgeen__ | legind, did you turn up the volume in Totem.... (I know silly, but a thought) |
| 03:01.42 | mwilson | cosmo_: Why would it matter? |
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| 03:01.53 | makad | hogmeat: you are haivng mixed sarge/etch/sid install. |
| 03:02.02 | ysothoth | hehe.. |
| 03:02.05 | nvz | mwilson: what was I thinking, of course not. |
| 03:02.07 | ysothoth | former gentoo support group? |
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| 03:02.24 | mfrisch | YaleR It could easily do what I want...THANKS |
| 03:02.31 | YaleR | np |
| 03:02.33 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
| 03:02.36 | ZeR0_ | please |
| 03:02.59 | lemur | Even though I'm running stable, is it practical to install a particular app from testing? |
| 03:03.06 | nvz | mwilson: spoon feeding information is too much, I should have chewed and regurgitated it. |
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| 03:03.15 | mwilson | ZeR0_: Wow, that's about the lamest exploit attempt I've seen in a while. |
| 03:03.35 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
| 03:03.45 | host` | problem, I get this error when I try to make a deb package http://pastebin.com/366802 |
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| 03:04.00 | ZeR0_ | MĩhåMĩhåMĩhoaHððåååRhåhåhåHðahohohåhåhåMĩhåhå |
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| 03:04.06 | astronut | deadcat: linuxcompatible.org seems to suck, didn't used to |
| 03:04.17 | lemur | ZeR0_: j00 r t3h n3wb |
| 03:04.26 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
| 03:04.30 | makad | lemur: completely practical. put the line "APT::Default-Release "stable"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf and then update package list with testing |
| 03:04.31 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
| 03:04.32 | cheal | lemur: which app? |
| 03:04.48 | host` | can we at least get a k/b? |
| 03:05.00 | lemur | cheal: for example, gaim |
| 03:05.34 | cheal | lemur: it may be practical, but it's not really feasible. for binary packages, anyway |
| 03:05.37 | makad | lemur: gaim is pulling lot of librarires with it. possible chaos. |
| 03:05.45 | lemur | eek |
| 03:05.53 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
| 03:05.59 | lemur | I guess I'll continue using psi...xmpp doesn't change much :) |
| 03:06.02 | gentgeen__ | lemur, maybe try backports.org -- or switch to testing... |
| 03:06.19 | legind | gentgeen__, nope its all the way up |
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| 03:06.52 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
| 03:06.56 | makad | legind: just a thought. is totem complaining "no sound device" or some such? |
| 03:07.14 | lemur | gentgeen__: I don't know how to switch to testing. I asked about it earlier, and I got the impression that it wasn't safe to update to testing from an existing stable install |
| 03:07.36 | makad | ZeR0_: please please quitting and restarting your chat client. |
| 03:07.41 | mwilson | lemur: Exactly what other way is there to "get there"? |
| 03:07.44 | gentgeen__ | there is a howto -- it was written when Sarge was testing -- it is what I used without a problem |
| 03:08.14 | lemur | well, I'm quite satisfied with stable, so I'll stick with it for the time being |
| 03:08.26 | makad | lemur: why wanting "testing" version of gaim? |
| 03:08.34 | host` | I'm havbing a problem with unstable |
| 03:08.38 | lemur | makad: if a protocol changes or something |
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| 03:08.44 | lemur | host`: go figure |
| 03:08.56 | mwilson | host`: Everyone gets to guess what that problem is, of course. |
| 03:08.59 | host` | er.. think we're talking about differnt things |
| 03:09.07 | makad | lemur: not worrying. if such problems coming then stable/updates will solve. |
| 03:09.08 | host` | you're talking about gaim |
| 03:09.11 | deadcat | !ops ZeR0_ spamming |
| 03:09.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: ZeR0_ spamming |
| 03:09.13 | host` | I'm talking about debian |
| 03:09.14 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
| 03:09.16 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
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| 03:09.21 | ZeR0_ | /server -m irc.brvip.org |
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| 03:09.36 | legind | makad: nope, nothing of the sort |
| 03:09.38 | gentgeen__ | lemur, I think your the second that wants to 'update' gaim in just the last few hours |
| 03:09.39 | deadcat | nice work helix |
| 03:09.53 | host` | ty |
| 03:10.01 | cheal | gaim is planned for volatile |
| 03:10.05 | host` | I just joined the channel and he annoyed me |
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| 03:10.11 | host` | that quickly |
| 03:10.13 | deadcat | host`: who are you? |
| 03:10.26 | cheal | I don't think there have been big changes in protocols to justify a upload yet though |
| 03:10.29 | gentgeen__ | host`, he showed up the same time you did :-) |
| 03:10.36 | host` | oh |
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| 03:10.53 | azure | legind: which version of totem are you using (gstreamer or xine)? |
| 03:10.55 | gentgeen__ | but yes, he was annoying |
| 03:11.00 | deadcat | whats up with mplayer not showing the output on my external monitor? using xv |
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| 03:11.15 | badb0y | anyone here use scite editor? i want to know how do i change its background |
| 03:11.17 | host` | deadcat: who am T? |
| 03:11.19 | host` | I* |
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| 03:11.37 | cheal | deadcat: #mplayerhq ? |
| 03:11.46 | lemur | the apt description for wine is "windows emulator". WTF |
| 03:11.54 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 03:11.54 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 03:11.55 | makad | host`: the correct command is "whoami" . |
| 03:12.01 | deadcat | cheal: damn you (= |
| 03:12.12 | host` | ehh? |
| 03:12.13 | deadcat | makad: who am i IS a command |
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| 03:12.35 | host` | WHOAMI Unknown command |
| 03:12.48 | deadcat | host`: lowercase moron |
| 03:12.52 | host` | I did |
| 03:12.56 | host` | that's what IRc showd me |
| 03:13.01 | host` | is that a linux command? |
| 03:13.04 | legind | azure, Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.0 |
| 03:13.11 | gentgeen__ | host`, yes |
| 03:13.28 | host` | I can't get on linux at the moment, I would have to restart |
| 03:13.34 | host` | tell me what it does |
| 03:13.36 | makad | host`: yes. im noob at irc so not knowing irc command only linux command. |
| 03:13.49 | gentgeen__ | host`, guess!! :-) |
| 03:13.53 | deadcat | host`: boot to linux and find out yourself.. lazy bastard |
| 03:14.04 | host` | it takes minutes and minutes |
| 03:14.09 | makad | host`: konnecting to #debian from non-free os is not permitted :) |
| 03:14.25 | Pfated | 'konnecting'? |
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| 03:14.35 | azure | legind: I'd assume that your xine settings determine which audio output is used (that's how the gstreamer version works) |
| 03:14.36 | gentgeen__ | makad must use KDE |
| 03:14.37 | host` | I'm lazy, but I don't like sitting and looking at a load screen either |
| 03:14.42 | makad | host`: robot version of connect |
| 03:14.44 | lemur | I can't find mplayer in my apt repo, is it hiding somewhere? |
| 03:14.52 | Guerin | !mplayer |
| 03:14.53 | dpkg | i heard mplayer is not packaged by debian for licensing issues, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. |
| 03:14.57 | Pfated | lemur: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 03:14.57 | host` | robots are cool maked |
| 03:15.10 | makad | kde = robot version of cde. Sorry to kde folks just a joke :) |
| 03:15.15 | host` | but robot version? |
| 03:15.51 | host` | whoami sounds.. well.. stupid |
| 03:15.55 | makad | KDE= Kolossal Disk Eater. CDE = Colossal Disk Eater. Still joking. not flaming :) |
| 03:15.55 | host` | I am host` |
| 03:16.00 | nvz | who am I is the name of a Jackie Chan movie |
| 03:16.22 | gentgeen__ | host`, you got it !!!! |
| 03:16.23 | Furio_G | Vista sounds stupid if you ask me |
| 03:16.26 | host` | whoami.. I'm root |
| 03:16.31 | legind | azure, ok ill tinker with that |
| 03:16.37 | gentgeen__ | it tells you who you currently are logged in as |
| 03:16.42 | host` | actually, I'm host, but I can't have that nick on this server |
| 03:16.48 | gentgeen__ | you prob not used to multi user systems |
| 03:17.00 | deadcat | whats the irssi command to ignore all message about a user? |
| 03:17.11 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.18 | deadcat | i have to start using /ignore instead of screaming at these morons |
| 03:17.27 | deadcat | mwilson: including replies to host` (= |
| 03:17.35 | host` | :/ |
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| 03:18.00 | makad | deadcat: not shouting. speaking softly and carrying big stick. |
| 03:18.08 | jbroome | deadcat: i think i saw the format for that /ignore on the irssi page |
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| 03:18.13 | host` | replies to host? so that means you're talking to me but not listening to my replies |
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| 03:18.28 | host` | what a dweeb |
| 03:18.28 | Pfated | No, it means, shortly, he won't see anything you say or anything anyone says to you. |
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| 03:18.56 | host` | ahh |
| 03:18.57 | makad | host`: trying to teach you but not learning anything from you. |
| 03:19.15 | beti5 | can I learn from you? |
| 03:19.27 | host` | yeah, that statement made sense maked |
| 03:19.35 | makad | those who listen will learn --- old jungle saying. |
| 03:19.50 | gentgeen__ | host`, you might want to just sit back and listen for a while, learn something |
| 03:19.57 | beti6 | hi ciaron |
| 03:19.59 | Furio_G | who said that, cap.t obvious? :P |
| 03:20.02 | host` | I am trying to learn |
| 03:20.10 | beti5 | hey can I join? |
| 03:20.20 | deadcat | host`: no. just trying to ignore anything that contains your nick |
| 03:20.24 | host` | actaully, let me rephrase "I am learning" |
| 03:20.25 | jbroome | beti5: that'll be $5 |
| 03:20.26 | makad | those who talk will get high blood pressure on sixtieth birthday --- young doctor saying. |
| 03:20.41 | beti6 | hi |
| 03:21.06 | deadcat | host`: shutup |
| 03:21.07 | makad | beti5, beti6: your are steadily incrementing. |
| 03:21.12 | host` | damn |
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| 03:21.19 | host` | I'm getting herassed |
| 03:21.19 | beti6 | hi 2 all of u |
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| 03:21.27 | Guerin | !2 |
| 03:21.27 | dpkg | It's TO, not '2'. This is not l33t3 sp34k nor is this AOL. |
| 03:21.32 | mfrisch | host` not yet... |
| 03:21.32 | Guerin | !u |
| 03:21.32 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:21.36 | host` | :) |
| 03:21.39 | Dewi | I'm running testing, and a bunch of updates came through for gnome and so on, but it all depends on "hal" which depends on a recent "udev". However, this "udev" requires a kernel >= 2.6.12, and the latest kernel image on testing is a 2.6.8 |
| 03:21.45 | Dewi | how can I fix my system? |
| 03:21.55 | Guerin | Dewi: install an up-to-date kernel |
| 03:21.55 | beti6 | this |
| 03:21.58 | host` | bring it, bring it on, talk all the crap you can, I'll take it |
| 03:22.02 | beti5 | why you stupid jerk |
| 03:22.08 | Dewi | Guerin: there aren't any available in testing |
| 03:22.09 | beti6 | yahh |
| 03:22.10 | makad | Guerin: but 2 is most important number. |
| 03:22.22 | makad | unlike 5 and 6 |
| 03:22.24 | Guerin | Dewi: linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 is in unstable |
| 03:22.26 | Dewi | Guerin: I guess I could grab a deb from sid |
| 03:22.33 | Guerin | !info linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 etch |
| 03:22.38 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.12-1-386: (Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on 386-class machines), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-6 (etch), Packaged size: 15449 kB, Installed size: 45276 kB |
| 03:22.39 | Dewi | Guerin: but is that.... a really Bad Idea? |
| 03:22.41 | cheal | !tell Dewi about 2.6.12 |
| 03:22.43 | gentgeen__ | makad, but 0 is the most import |
| 03:22.45 | gentgeen__ | :-) |
| 03:22.46 | Guerin | Dewi: it is in etch |
| 03:22.50 | Guerin | just install it |
| 03:22.55 | mwilson | Guerin: I thought someone was going to file an RC bug to stop d'Itri from breaking testing? |
| 03:22.59 | makad | Dewi: not problem at all in etch. |
| 03:23.00 | gentgeen__ | s/import/important |
| 03:23.06 | Guerin | mwilson: the hell I know. |
| 03:23.15 | host` | I just don't understand the error I'm getting, I have the directory, I've checked it three times to make sure it's right, and it is, but it's saying no such file or directory |
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| 03:23.34 | Dewi | Guerin: what is in etch? a 2.6.12 image? |
| 03:23.43 | Guerin | Dewi: as I demonstrated above |
| 03:23.46 | gentgeen__ | host`, maybe cause you are in that non-free os that you mentioned about earlier |
| 03:23.48 | Leandr0 | rnN, hello |
| 03:23.54 | rnN | hi |
| 03:24.00 | mwilson | <shrug> He gratuitously breaks unstable, and no one does anything. Now apparently he's broken testing? |
| 03:24.26 | Guerin | mwilson: there should be something which hauls in linux-image-* as required |
| 03:24.27 | host` | gentgeen__, I wasn't in it when I tried making the .deb file though |
| 03:24.32 | Guerin | mwilson: yeah, neither |
| 03:24.34 | makad | not understanding. is testing broken? |
| 03:24.35 | soto | Can someone tell me if it is possible to play windows media files from the browser? |
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| 03:24.43 | mwilson | Guerin: And if there isn't one, like there wasn't one for unstable? |
| 03:24.45 | Dewi | Guerin: hmmm... if I search for that in aptitude, it tells me it doesn't exist. But apt-cache search finds it. Any idea why? |
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| 03:24.46 | soto | Can someone tell me if it is possible to play windows media files from the browser using mplayer? |
| 03:24.51 | host` | gentgeen__, I wasn't in it when I succesfully compiled that program the first time |
| 03:24.53 | deadcat | xserver-xfree86 points to xserver-xorg in sid.. thats what i know |
| 03:24.53 | Guerin | soto: why on earth would you use a web browser to play audio? |
| 03:25.00 | Guerin | Dewi: nope. |
| 03:25.05 | makad | !tell soto about repeat |
| 03:25.07 | Leandr0 | rnN, What your name?! |
| 03:25.08 | Leandr0 | :X |
| 03:25.13 | EdLin | Guerin: I just dist-upgraded from stable to etch a couple of days ago - it did download the new kernel but I had to upgrade kernel-headers manually. |
| 03:25.26 | EdLin | Guerin: (or whatever they're calling kernel-headers now) |
| 03:25.27 | Guerin | EdLin: oh, ok. |
| 03:25.27 | findme | any one used maxtor 200gb external hard drive with debian |
| 03:25.30 | soto | guerin because i can see the link for live radio....it? a java script |
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| 03:25.50 | Guerin | soto: use mozilla-mplayer or similar to spawn a player |
| 03:25.51 | soto | canīt i mean |
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| 03:26.13 | Guerin | soto: but the fact is that things like that are totally fucked, and probably won't work if you're not running windows and ie |
| 03:26.26 | beti5 | hi whats your name |
| 03:26.50 | Guerin | beti5: my name is "Do you have anything valuable to add? If not, please fuck off." |
| 03:26.51 | makad | !tell findme about use |
| 03:27.11 | mfrisch | :-) |
| 03:27.16 | Guerin | soto: the most reliable way is to view the source of the page and copy/paste the urls directly into a player |
| 03:27.17 | beti5 | hey hey what a bad word |
| 03:27.27 | Dewi | bloody aptitude. why won't it show all packages? |
| 03:27.40 | cheal | mwilson: sid is there to be broken |
| 03:27.46 | makad | Guerin: come. come. what about save link as? or copy link to clipboard? |
| 03:27.47 | Guerin | Dewi: updated? |
| 03:27.59 | Guerin | makad: javascript breaks those. |
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| 03:28.09 | soto | guerin that would be great,but is not possible once i can see the links...they are java scripts |
| 03:28.20 | Dewi | Guerin: yeah. apt-cache is up to speed, but I'm hesitant to use the command line tools for "severe" updates because it's harder to see what it's going to do |
| 03:28.41 | gentgeen__ | javascript links suck |
| 03:28.43 | Guerin | soto: it is if you view source. In firefox, you can select the links you'd normally click to play them, and do "view selection source" |
| 03:28.52 | beti5 | hi where do you live |
| 03:29.13 | hogmeat | shitcreek without a paddle |
| 03:29.20 | mfrisch | beti5 you in the wrong channel |
| 03:29.42 | beti5 | ok |
| 03:29.53 | ke6isf | !lart beti5 |
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| 03:30.10 | beti5 | shut your big mouth |
| 03:30.11 | soto | guerin u right...i forgot that |
| 03:30.20 | ke6isf | beti5: No, I won't. |
| 03:30.20 | gentgeen__ | lol -- I'm gonna have to write that down |
| 03:30.23 | ke6isf | !lart beti5 |
| 03:30.27 | beti5 | you should |
| 03:30.30 | Dewi | Guerin: actually, no, amend that - apt-cache isn't showing any 12 packages either. Maybe my mirror is out of date. |
| 03:30.56 | mfrisch | there should be an age limit here |
| 03:31.02 | beti5 | why stop talking |
| 03:31.02 | ke6isf | Hmm... methinks !lart is broken. |
| 03:31.23 | Guerin | beti5: seriously. This is a free software channel. Nobody is going to tell you their name or where you live. I suggest you read the topic. |
| 03:31.24 | Dewi | if I want to avoid problems with mirror staleness, would it be a good idea to have everything twice in my apt sources? first local (australia) then a more central mirror? |
| 03:31.24 | beti5 | yuo dammit |
| 03:31.26 | ke6isf | beti5: Feh. You're not worth my time. *PLONK* |
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| 03:31.34 | webfreak | ... |
| 03:31.49 | beti5 | ok I appologized for what I did |
| 03:31.56 | Garda | is there matlab for linux |
| 03:32.11 | ke6isf | Garda: What's matlab? |
| 03:32.14 | Guerin | Dewi: no. |
| 03:32.17 | mfrisch | Garda maxima |
| 03:32.33 | Guerin | Dewi: they're not normally far behind, just run apt-setup again. |
| 03:32.33 | webfreak | Garda: google it |
| 03:32.40 | Garda | matlab is a scripting program for maths |
| 03:32.40 | Hazel | im using debian stable and a compiled kernel (2.6.13.1)... and my rules for iptables doesnt works! why?? |
| 03:33.03 | Guerin | !wayc Hazel |
| 03:33.04 | dpkg | Hazel: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 03:33.09 | beti5 | what can I do if my computer always debugging |
| 03:33.23 | Guerin | beti5: strip all your binaries |
| 03:33.23 | deadcat | Hazel: maybe you didnt compile your iptables support? |
| 03:33.29 | Hazel | yes |
| 03:33.34 | gentgeen__ | ke6isf, you wouldn't happen to know why "lart" is the command? |
| 03:33.39 | fisious | buu how did you go? |
| 03:33.40 | Hazel | iptables is IN the kernel |
| 03:33.45 | beti5 | I can't understand that word |
| 03:33.48 | Hazel | and the rules doesnt fail |
| 03:33.50 | Guerin | Hazel: why are you not using a debian kernel? |
| 03:33.51 | nvz | debian stable is a loose term especially around a release date.. any of bo, rex, buzz, slink, potato, woody, or sarge could be considered stable :P |
| 03:33.52 | ke6isf | gentgeen__: Well, you do know what 'lart' is, right? |
| 03:34.07 | webfreak | beti5: http://www.urbandictionary.com |
| 03:34.10 | Hazel | Guerin, because i think these kernels are too old |
| 03:34.11 | Guerin | Hazel: and what do you mean by stable? |
| 03:34.18 | Guerin | Hazel: then you're wrong. |
| 03:34.19 | Dewi | Guerin: http://packages.debian.org/testing/allpackages |
| 03:34.24 | Dewi | Guerin: that page has no 2.6.12 |
| 03:34.26 | Garda | there is a version for suse and redhat but i don't know if it comes with the text book |
| 03:34.42 | gentgeen__ | I just google linuxed, all I seem to see is a "The LART is a small yet powerful embedded computer capable of running Linux" |
| 03:34.48 | Hazel | but why it doesnt works? |
| 03:34.53 | mfrisch | Garda maxima is complete. |
| 03:34.58 | simonrvn | @lart |
| 03:35.01 | ke6isf | gentgeen__: Try http://www.urbandictionary.com instead. Gives a better definition. |
| 03:35.04 | Hazel | how can i make i work |
| 03:35.07 | gentgeen__ | thanks |
| 03:35.08 | deadcat | Hazel: whats the diff between the apt-get kernel and the one you compiled? diff as in changlog |
| 03:35.11 | ke6isf | !dict lart |
| 03:35.12 | simonrvn | try it |
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| 03:35.14 | dpkg | Dictionary 'lart' (2): Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool ;; 220 aspen.miranda.org dictd 1.9.15/rf on Linux 2.4.27-2-k7 <auth.mime> <7602007.30192.1127014513@aspen.miranda.org> 150 1 definitions retrieved 151 "lart" foldoc "The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (27 SEP 03)" LART. |
| 03:35.16 | Pfated | nvz: Technically, everything before woody is obsolete stable, while woody is oldstable. |
| 03:35.18 | beti5 | my computer has been virused |
| 03:35.20 | ke6isf | Ah, there it is. |
| 03:35.31 | nvz | Hazel: what does age have to do with kernels? some things get better with age. |
| 03:35.33 | gentgeen__ | lol -- ok, that makes sense |
| 03:35.36 | Guerin | Hazel: because you fucked your build up. Use a debian 2.6.11 or .12 kernel, or sort your own issues out. |
| 03:35.40 | simonrvn | beti5: #windows is on another network |
| 03:35.49 | deadcat | simonrvn: my xorg working on ibook.. it was fucking splashy that hangs when xorg is installed. |
| 03:35.53 | Hazel | ok |
| 03:35.56 | simonrvn | *nods* |
| 03:36.00 | Hazel | you dont know why |
| 03:36.03 | beti5 | Im from philippines |
| 03:36.05 | ke6isf | And thus, gentgeen__ was enlightened. =^_^= |
| 03:36.12 | legind | yay, i got totem to work with esd. I had to modify ~/.gnome2/totem_config, and change "# audio.device:auto" to "audio.device:esd" |
| 03:36.16 | legind | works perfectly! |
| 03:36.19 | ke6isf | beti5: We don't support Windows on this channel. |
| 03:36.24 | Guerin | Hazel: we can't possibly know why, because you haven't goiven us any meaningful information. |
| 03:36.28 | Dewi | is anyone here actually running testing, with a kernel >= 2.6.12? |
| 03:36.34 | deadcat | simonrvn: i have to give up fbsplash because of mol, give up splashy because of xorg (= |
| 03:36.36 | cheal | Dewi: yes |
| 03:36.43 | gentgeen__ | Now I can work on the meaning of life ^_^ |
| 03:36.45 | Hazel | im tring to know if its a known issue |
| 03:36.49 | Dewi | cheal: how? I can't see such a kernel in any package lists |
| 03:36.49 | ke6isf | !dict life |
| 03:36.51 | simonrvn | beti5: yes, that still doesn't change the fact windows isn't open source, not is it free software, therefore has no place here |
| 03:36.52 | beti5 | Only Linux? |
| 03:36.54 | deadcat | Hazel: no. you fucked u |
| 03:36.56 | dpkg | Dictionary 'life' (2 of 53): 13. Enjoyment in the right use of the powers; especially, a spiritual existence; happiness in the favor of God; heavenly felicity. ;; 220 aspen.miranda.org dictd 1.9.15/rf on Linux 2.4.27-2-k7 <auth.mime> <7602043.30231.1127014610@aspen.miranda.org> 150 3 definitions retrieved 151 "life" foldoc "The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (27 SEP 03)" Life. |
| 03:36.57 | nvz | BOFH are known issues |
| 03:37.00 | deadcat | s/ed u/ed up/ |
| 03:37.03 | nvz | heh |
| 03:37.06 | Guerin | Hazel: no, iptables is one of those things which, if it broke, the kernel wouldn't be released. |
| 03:37.06 | ke6isf | beti5: Not only Linux, but Debian Linux at that. |
| 03:37.14 | cheal | !tell Dewi about linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 etch |
| 03:37.19 | cheal | sorry |
| 03:37.20 | ke6isf | gentgeen__: There you go. |
| 03:37.23 | gentgeen__ | Well, I guess I can call it a day now :-) |
| 03:37.24 | cheal | !tell Dewi about info linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 etch |
| 03:37.25 | beti5 | what is the difference between that? |
| 03:37.37 | gentgeen__ | What am I going to do tomorrow??!! |
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| 03:37.50 | pingouin | gentgeen__: where you from ? |
| 03:37.56 | ke6isf | !tell beti5 -about debian |
| 03:38.05 | Dewi | cheal: that's great. But apt can't see it, and it's not here: http://packages.debian.org/testing/allpackages |
| 03:38.08 | simonrvn | beti5: bsd of various sorts, linux, and related projects. can even have FS/OS on windows. but windows itself, no |
| 03:38.09 | Dewi | cheal: do I need to download a .deb myself? |
| 03:38.23 | nvz | gentgeen__: I was wondering the same thing.. only about what I was going to do, not you |
| 03:38.30 | beti5 | please tell mme more |
| 03:38.32 | cheal | Dewi: yourself? well, depends what you mean. I let synaptic do it. |
| 03:38.40 | Dewi | cheal: it's not in the packages list for etch |
| 03:38.41 | ke6isf | beti5: Everything you want to know is on http://www.debian.org |
| 03:38.59 | beti5 | are you sure |
| 03:39.00 | Dewi | cheal: so how does synaptic just... find it? |
| 03:39.01 | simonrvn | beti5: see what ke6isf said. that'll help a lot |
| 03:39.06 | Guerin | Dewi: ok, hold up. You are searching on ***linux***-image, not kernel-image, right? |
| 03:39.06 | gentgeen__ | could somone please kick beti5 -- he/she is accually a bot |
| 03:39.10 | beti5 | thank you |
| 03:39.13 | gentgeen__ | or at least an anoying kid |
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| 03:39.14 | Dewi | Guerin: sigh. |
| 03:39.14 | cheal | Dewi: linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 (2.6.12-6) Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on AMD K7 machines |
| 03:39.16 | simonrvn | beti5: give you a good idea on what this all about |
| 03:39.25 | Dewi | Guerin: nope :P |
| 03:39.32 | Guerin | Dewi: ... |
| 03:39.45 | Dewi | did they stop being called kernel-image? |
| 03:39.50 | cheal | yes |
| 03:39.52 | Guerin | Dewi: linux is not the only kernel |
| 03:39.54 | gentgeen__ | nvz, arn't your the PGHer? |
| 03:39.56 | cheal | !tell Dewi about 2.6.12 |
| 03:39.56 | Octayv | anyone got an idea why a boot would hang on agpgart? |
| 03:39.59 | beti5 | plese give tips on how to use linux because Im a new user |
| 03:40.01 | simonrvn | beti5: in the mean time i would suggest some adware removal tools, plus some a freeware anti-virus or 2 |
| 03:40.01 | nvz | gentgeen__: yep |
| 03:40.12 | Maneit | Guerin: are there any other kernel-images for Debian at the moment? |
| 03:40.14 | gentgeen__ | Thought I remembered you -- Hello :-) |
| 03:40.21 | pingouin | beti5: shutdown -h now |
| 03:40.22 | Guerin | Maneit: other than what? |
| 03:40.26 | beti5 | whats the name of that antivirus |
| 03:40.28 | deadcat | Maneit: apt-cache search images |
| 03:40.29 | Maneit | Guerin: other than the linux kernel? |
| 03:40.30 | Guerin | Maneit: other than linux? |
| 03:40.40 | Dewi | Guerin / cheal : well, if the 'kernel' packages no longer contain the word 'kernel' then I suppose that explains it |
| 03:40.45 | Octayv | No arpgart gurus in the house? |
| 03:40.51 | Guerin | i think there might be a kfreebsd one, but I'm not sure. |
| 03:41.07 | nvz | gentgeen__: if I stay up about 20 more minutes I will know what I am going to do tomorrow, cause it will be tomorrow, but I am going to sleep momentarily |
| 03:41.09 | cheal | there is |
| 03:41.18 | Octayv | Anyone here familiar with the intel i810 laptop chipset and Debian installation? |
| 03:41.28 | ke6isf | !tell Octayv -about laptop |
| 03:41.29 | john | Guerin: Hurd Kernel |
| 03:41.31 | john | for debian |
| 03:41.34 | ke6isf | Fark. Sunday got an early start. |
| 03:41.36 | john | not "readily" available yet |
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| 03:41.37 | beti5 | what shutdown |
| 03:41.52 | Octayv | ke6isf: ? |
| 03:42.04 | gentgeen__ | nvz, well I'll be up, so I will be sure to let you know ... <GRIN> |
| 03:42.10 | Guerin | john: nice. |
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| 03:42.34 | beti5 | hey anybody knows Manny Pacquaio |
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| 03:43.10 | nvz | oh well off to bed.. dream happy thoughts for a while |
| 03:43.24 | gentgeen__ | nvz, later |
| 03:43.41 | NewPray | i'm stuck with the ppc installer can anyone possibly help me ? |
| 03:44.00 | cheal | NewPray: #debianppc, possibly |
| 03:44.12 | deadcat | NewPray: stuck where? |
| 03:44.28 | gentgeen__ | NewPray, with tape? with glue? |
| 03:44.47 | ysothoth | hehehe |
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| 03:45.38 | kingtux | How to use 2 nic in one machine on same subnet |
| 03:45.39 | gentgeen__ | NewPray, I think we are all just having some fun at your expense -- nothing personal :-) |
| 03:45.45 | kingtux | 2 nics |
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| 03:46.00 | Guerin | kingtux: why would you? |
| 03:46.17 | gentgeen__ | kingtux, that does not make much sense |
| 03:46.27 | Octayv | Is there a boot argument or kernel argument I can use to bypass arpgart? |
| 03:46.35 | kingtux | Becuase I'm installing vmware and I want my virtrule machine to have it own eth |
| 03:46.39 | Octayv | noagp produces same hang |
| 03:46.49 | kingtux | 100b instead of bridge |
| 03:46.50 | Guerin | agpgart is a kernel module, is it not? you could blacklist it... |
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| 03:47.00 | Octayv | I don't know how to do that |
| 03:47.05 | gentgeen__ | kingtux, is that really necessary? |
| 03:47.09 | Pfated | !blacklist |
| 03:47.09 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present) |
| 03:47.11 | Guerin | kingtux: #vmware |
| 03:47.14 | Pfated | Bleh, discover. |
| 03:47.27 | kingtux | better proformance |
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| 03:47.54 | Guerin | kingtux: if you wanted better perfoormance, you wouldn't use vmware, you'd just install debian natively |
| 03:47.56 | cheal | simonrvn: I think you're late :) |
| 03:47.56 | Pfated | simonrvn: What happened to SimonRaven? |
| 03:48.12 | cheal | SimonRaven: what happened to simonrvn? |
| 03:48.28 | simonrvn | oh i just forgot to change nick... if i sign onwith my new nick, my xloak doesn't get set |
| 03:48.29 | kingtux | I do have debain installed as my host and cent0.S as gust O.S |
| 03:48.31 | simonrvn | cloak* |
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| 03:48.50 | simonrvn | debain? #debain is over there >> |
| 03:49.13 | Pfated | simonrvn: Register SimonRaven, link SimonRaven to simonrvn, and ident. |
| 03:49.17 | Octayv | Pfated: I can't keep up here, when you say !blacklist, what do you mean? |
| 03:49.19 | NewPray | maybe if i ask in channel it would help it's not really a ppc problem persay i try to start the installer and there is no cdrom drive detected though according to the dmesg it was found as hda and when i check /dev there is no hda device anyone got any ideas ? |
| 03:49.21 | SimonRaven | already done |
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| 03:49.22 | Pfated | Octayv: Ignore. |
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| 03:49.48 | SimonRaven | 'per se' |
| 03:49.56 | gentgeen__ | Octayv, when you see the ! that tells a BOT to answer |
| 03:50.23 | Octayv | gentgeen: Thanks |
| 03:50.32 | Pfated | And unless you have discover or hotplug, what dpkg said doesn't really help. Which you might. |
| 03:50.56 | SimonRaven | newmanbe: not a problem. if you're using the 2.4 booting it use devfs, and devfs uses fucked up names for devices |
| 03:51.07 | SimonRaven | newmanbe: woops, wrong nick |
| 03:51.16 | Octayv | I do have a hotplug pci subsystem |
| 03:51.22 | SimonRaven | NewPray: ^^^^ |
| 03:51.25 | Octayv | !blacklist |
| 03:51.25 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present) |
| 03:51.28 | gentgeen__ | NewPray, what media is the installer? |
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| 03:51.49 | gentgeen__ | Octayv, there you go ^_^ |
| 03:51.55 | Octayv | =) |
| 03:52.04 | Octayv | except that I can't even get the system to boot |
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| 03:52.33 | Pfated | single-user? |
| 03:52.42 | gentgeen__ | boot with a floppy/knoppix/etc and edit the file |
| 03:52.47 | Octayv | yeah |
| 03:52.47 | SimonRaven | no, double user |
| 03:52.50 | SimonRaven | ;p |
| 03:52.56 | Octayv | well... |
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| 03:53.21 | Pfated | SimonRaven: :P |
| 03:53.33 | gentgeen__ | double user = two timer ??? |
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| 03:54.47 | Octayv | genteen: so, you're saying I need to boot from a live disk and make the changes from the file? |
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| 03:55.00 | gentgeen__ | yes-ish |
| 03:55.15 | Octayv | gentgeen: I guess I still don't understand then |
| 03:55.30 | gentgeen__ | the from part confuses me --- not sure if you ment that or not |
| 03:55.32 | Octayv | all I know is that I've read the install manual about four times and I'm not getting anywhere that way |
| 03:55.33 | Dewi | Guerin / cheal : thanks guys, packages are now unbroken |
| 03:55.41 | SimonRaven | NewPray: not a problem. if you're using the 2.4 booting it use devfs, and devfs uses fucked up names for devices |
| 03:56.02 | Octayv | oh, I suppose boot with a live disk would be more accurate |
| 03:56.04 | gentgeen__ | boot from liveCD, mount your HD (if not mounted already) then edit the file |
| 03:56.13 | Octayv | cool |
| 03:56.27 | gentgeen__ | I forget the file--- /etc/discovery???? or something like that |
| 03:56.27 | Octayv | assuming my damned laptop hardware will work with the livedisk |
| 03:56.32 | Octayv | =) |
| 03:56.43 | gentgeen__ | for you it would be /mnt/hda#/etc/discovery |
| 03:57.02 | Octayv | okay |
| 03:57.52 | gentgeen__ | 'du -h .xsession-errors' 28K .xsession-error |
| 03:58.00 | gentgeen__ | No problem here :-) |
| 03:58.01 | Octayv | thanks, I'm going to give that a shot. But what does this mean in the long run for my system if I'm bypassing the agp drivers for the graphics card? |
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| 03:58.52 | gentgeen__ | I personally don't have a clue on that one :) |
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| 03:59.26 | gentgeen__ | dpkg, beer |
| 03:59.35 | Octayv | gentgeen: heh heh. me either. I think this linux-laptop adventure I've set out upon with my high level of ignorance might've been ill-fated from the get go |
| 03:59.39 | Pfated | gentgeen__: You want to say dpkg, beer someone. |
| 04:00.01 | gentgeen__ | Pfated, Thank you -- I was trying to remember that one earlier today -- I thought I had it :-) |
| 04:00.14 | xoz | !berr gentgeen__ |
| 04:00.19 | Pfated | Yeesh. |
| 04:00.21 | Pfated | !beer gentgeen__ |
| 04:00.23 | Octayv | =) |
| 04:00.23 | xoz | :) |
| 04:00.41 | Pfated | Blokes, eh. Can't even get their own !beers. |
| 04:00.46 | NewPray | damn that thing has a lot of triggers |
| 04:01.00 | SimonRaven | !status |
| 04:01.00 | dpkg | Since Sat Sep 17 03:10:29 2005, there have been 0 modifications, 536 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 134 commands. I have been awake for 1d 50m 31s this session, and currently reference 26295 factoids. I'm using about 15408 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 195.64/8.84 child 161.91/8.52 |
| 04:01.15 | Octayv | how do you access a list of the triggers? |
| 04:01.28 | NewPray | u use !list normally |
| 04:01.29 | Pfated | You don't, because the power they hold would drive you MAD, MAD, I tell you! |
| 04:02.08 | Octayv | I've no doubt there. |
| 04:02.08 | SimonRaven | ...and probably flood you off the network... |
| 04:02.10 | gentgeen__ | It can be hard pouring a beer with a 3 year old on your lap :-) |
| 04:02.19 | NewPray | hehe |
| 04:02.38 | shuning | depends, are you pouring for him/she or yourself? :P |
| 04:02.38 | Pfated | That would be irresponsible parenting. |
| 04:02.53 | NewPray | o_O |
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| 04:03.25 | gentgeen__ | Hmm, maybe I should let her do the pouring |
| 04:03.28 | ke6isf | !u |
| 04:03.29 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 04:03.49 | shuning | thats reponsible parenting - teaching your kids how to reponsibly server alcohol from a young age |
| 04:04.10 | Pfated | Server alcohol? BEER over TCP/IP? :O |
| 04:04.20 | ke6isf | server alcohol? Is somebody running a still in the colo or something? |
| 04:04.23 | shuning | damn it, i keep doing that |
| 04:04.48 | Pfated | Heh. |
| 04:04.54 | cheal | !get xorg |
| 04:04.55 | dpkg | xorg recently entered unstable. EXPECT MAJOR BREAKAGE. if you were previously running xorg debs from any other source you must remove all traces of xorg packages before you install the official xorg packages, or currently nvidia-glx is not working with xorg. so if you need 3d accel with an nvidia card, don't migrate to xorg, or see <xorg-nvidia>, or <xorg sarge> |
| 04:05.00 | cheal | dpkg: no, get xorg is <reply> X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 04:05.00 | dpkg | okay, cheal |
| 04:05.02 | gentgeen__ | when then stop doing it shuning |
| 04:05.18 | shuning | when or well gentgeen__ ? |
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| 04:05.25 | Octayv | beer should only be served over ssl |
| 04:05.31 | gentgeen__ | sorry well -- |
| 04:05.41 | shuning | in case some one spikes the drink through a man in the middle attack |
| 04:05.43 | Pfated | SSL? Dude. Lag. |
| 04:05.50 | Guerin | yeah |
| 04:05.52 | Pfated | The ONLY way to do it is LIVE. |
| 04:05.57 | Guerin | can't have lagged beer |
| 04:06.02 | gentgeen__ | maybe I should let my 3yo do the drinking too :) |
| 04:06.04 | Octayv | heh, i was hoping no one would notice |
| 04:06.07 | shuning | lagged is ok, but it must be cold |
| 04:06.16 | Pfated | All the encryption heats it up. |
| 04:06.21 | ke6isf | I wonder if you could get a beer over CPIP. |
| 04:06.34 | xoz | beer me up, scotty |
| 04:06.38 | Guerin | maybe you could use a VBN |
| 04:06.42 | SimonRaven | carrier pigeon over ip ;) |
| 04:06.47 | cheal | !xorg |
| 04:06.47 | dpkg | i guess xorg is X.Org X11, implementation of the X Window System, code from XFree86 4.4RC2 plus many improvements. The current release is X11R6.8.2. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/svn/xfree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for info. Now in unstable. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/07/msg00683.html, or see <get xorg> |
| 04:06.59 | cheal | dpkg: no, xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R6.8.2. ask me about <get xorg> |
| 04:06.59 | dpkg | okay, cheal |
| 04:07.08 | Pfated | Not BLOODY likele. You really want your beer under a bird's butt while being flown? |
| 04:07.09 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: No, carrier pigeon internet protocol. Sending a CP over IP would require you to decompose it into 1s and 0s. |
| 04:07.11 | Dewi | cheal: hmm. the one in etch...how broken would you say? I'm not having much luck with it :/ |
| 04:07.20 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: Then you gotta reconstitute the thing. |
| 04:07.33 | cheal | Dewi: not very broken. I only have a bug with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:07.34 | SimonRaven | indeed. would mean transporter... |
| 04:07.41 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: True dat. |
| 04:07.45 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 04:07.46 | NewPray | wht are the bots fighting o_O |
| 04:08.00 | Octayv | gentgeen: what were you telling me about the etc/discover/ additions |
| 04:08.02 | Dewi | cheal: when I run gnome-session I get nothing but a patterned background and the old "X" cursor |
| 04:08.07 | gentgeen__ | and what if the transporter messed up a few 1s and 0s |
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| 04:08.08 | NewPray | oh nm i can't read >< |
| 04:08.11 | Guerin | Dewi: that's gnome, not X |
| 04:08.15 | Dewi | cheal: (this is on vncX) |
| 04:08.18 | Guerin | oh |
| 04:08.20 | Dewi | Guerin: upgrading to xorg caused it |
| 04:08.20 | Guerin | or vnc |
| 04:08.20 | ke6isf | gentgeen__: Well, hopefully there's some sort of error correction. |
| 04:08.21 | shuning | gentgeen__, then you get a softdrink |
| 04:08.26 | shuning | *gasp* |
| 04:08.28 | Octayv | or worse... |
| 04:08.30 | Octayv | o'douls |
| 04:08.35 | gentgeen__ | lol |
| 04:08.42 | shuning | haha |
| 04:08.46 | ke6isf | Octayv: O'Douls is not beer. |
| 04:08.50 | Octayv | ha ha |
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| 04:09.05 | cheal | Dewi: I doubt that's an X problem |
| 04:09.13 | SimonRaven | calling piss water 'beer' is insulting real beer |
| 04:09.25 | Dewi | cheal: could be a problem with this new kernel I suppose. |
| 04:09.37 | cheal | Dewi: most VNC servers in debian do that. they have low quality doc, so I just use krfb |
| 04:09.39 | Dewi | but numerous updates have come through |
| 04:09.43 | Dewi | new gnome as well now that I think |
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| 04:09.51 | Guerin | ... |
| 04:09.55 | cheal | Dewi: I rather think like Guerin (VNC) |
| 04:10.15 | Guerin | i have beer |
| 04:10.20 | Dewi | vnc worked better than this yesterday, and I don't think it has changed |
| 04:10.23 | Guerin | but i should make lunch first |
| 04:10.32 | xoz | Dewi: are you using vnc4server? |
| 04:10.34 | SimonRaven | yeh. eat then beer |
| 04:10.37 | Dewi | xoz: no |
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| 04:10.47 | Dewi | xoz: I'm using the tightvnc one |
| 04:10.47 | sean_micken | hiya |
| 04:11.01 | sean_micken | i need to get the apache2 source, how do i fetch that? |
| 04:11.18 | cheal | sean_micken: apt-get -d source apache2 |
| 04:11.20 | gentgeen__ | beer before lunch -- must be Irish+ |
| 04:11.25 | sean_micken | cheal: ah, ty. |
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| 04:16.25 | Dewi | okay, does linux 2.6.12 support "keyboard"? I know it's outdated hardware and all... :P |
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| 04:17.00 | cheal | Dewi: didn't you switch to human-computer interface yet? |
| 04:17.19 | Dewi | I wish I was kidding. my keyboard doesn't work under 2.6.12 :D |
| 04:17.20 | DetectiveInspekt | what is a way to lockup my videos? |
| 04:17.36 | cheal | the one that doesn't use anything under the head, obviously |
| 04:17.45 | ke6isf | DetectiveInspekt: Define "lockup" |
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| 04:19.52 | DetectiveInspekt | like a breifcase or somesort a file that requires a password so people can't see into it |
| 04:20.17 | gentgeen__ | chmod or chown maybe |
| 04:20.28 | ke6isf | DetectiveInspekt: chmod and chown come to mind immediately. |
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| 04:21.15 | DetectiveInspekt | ok |
| 04:21.17 | Henry_Bean | hello, how could change the gcc version to compile? my default is 4 and i want to use 3.4 |
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| 04:21.19 | gb0x | hello all |
| 04:21.29 | gb0x | what p2p programs are avliable via apt-get? |
| 04:21.30 | ke6isf | !all |
| 04:21.51 | ke6isf | gb0x: apt-cache search p2p |
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| 04:22.13 | gb0x | ke6isf, which one do you recommend bro |
| 04:22.18 | EvanCarroll | What is the name of the linux, vista like product |
| 04:22.23 | ke6isf | gb0x: I don't use p2p. |
| 04:22.25 | cheal | EvanCarroll: ??? |
| 04:22.30 | EvanCarroll | err what ever the microsoft uml thingy is |
| 04:22.45 | Dewi | haha. visio? |
| 04:22.47 | gentgeen__ | ke6isf did you know he was your brother ? :) |
| 04:22.48 | EvanCarroll | yes |
| 04:22.50 | EvanCarroll | visio |
| 04:22.53 | Dewi | a lot of people use dia |
| 04:22.56 | EvanCarroll | Dewi: Thanks! |
| 04:23.00 | Dewi | but it's not nearly as good as visio |
| 04:23.06 | Dewi | I don't think it does UML |
| 04:23.06 | ke6isf | gentgeen__: Cute. |
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| 04:23.13 | EvanCarroll | I remember one of the products i tried on linux sucked, the other one didn't look to bad |
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| 04:23.33 | RoundQube | 23:17 < EvanCarroll> Dewi: Thanks! |
| 04:23.38 | RoundQube | whoops |
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| 04:23.45 | Dewi | RoundQube: yeah, I'm awesome |
| 04:24.04 | Dewi | does anyone know how to get off the screen that says "GDM failed to start"? |
| 04:24.12 | Dewi | because my keyboard seems to be completely locked |
| 04:24.16 | Dewi | not even ctrl-alt-delete works |
| 04:24.22 | RoundQube | reboot? |
| 04:24.31 | Dewi | reboot brings me to this screen |
| 04:24.37 | timgoh0 | Dewi: Do any other of the consoles respond? |
| 04:24.40 | RoundQube | why are you going directly into X? |
| 04:24.43 | Dewi | timgoh0: how would I get to them? |
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| 04:24.43 | gb0x | ke6isf, is opendchub dc++ ? |
| 04:24.44 | timgoh0 | Or boot into single user |
| 04:24.46 | cheal | Dewi: *without* a keyboard? ssh? |
| 04:24.52 | Dewi | cheal: yeah, ssh is fine |
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| 04:25.03 | RoundQube | Dewi: change your /etc/inittab to boot into anything other than level 5 |
| 04:25.04 | timgoh0 | Dewi: Try alt+f1 through f6 |
| 04:25.04 | Dewi | the machine's running under there, the keyboard is just completely locked when I'm on this gdm screen |
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| 04:25.12 | Dewi | I mashed some random keys and I got off this screen once |
| 04:25.17 | Dewi | but now I'm back and I can't get off it |
| 04:25.21 | Dewi | timgoh0: no |
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| 04:25.30 | Acids | hello a friend of mine has a problem he just switched to testing and well now his system appears to be screwed up |
| 04:25.31 | Acids | it says this |
| 04:25.35 | Acids | mv: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied |
| 04:25.47 | Acids | is there a way to fix without having to reinstall? |
| 04:25.49 | RoundQube | Acids: welcome to testing |
| 04:25.50 | jlil | hello |
| 04:25.53 | gb0x | hey guys what p2p do oyu guys use for music? |
| 04:25.59 | jlmb | Dewi: ctrl + atl + backspace ? |
| 04:26.05 | RoundQube | gb0x: get it off newsgroups or irc like everyone else |
| 04:26.06 | Dewi | gb0x: this isn't a piracy channel |
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| 04:26.12 | RoundQube | gb0x: and shut up also |
| 04:26.21 | gb0x | wtf |
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| 04:26.45 | Acids | so you are telling me there is no fix? |
| 04:26.46 | jlil | how do edit kde start up items |
| 04:26.47 | Dewi | jlmb: nah, I'm not actually in X. I'm staring at a GDM error screen |
| 04:26.49 | RoundQube | anyone know if there is any newsreader that supports message-id's in linux now? i know the popular pan does not so im asumming no |
| 04:26.59 | gb0x | why dnot you be nice like Dewi |
| 04:27.00 | gb0x | fag |
| 04:27.01 | timgoh0 | Dewi: Edit inittab such that X does not start |
| 04:27.09 | Dewi | Acids: I don't think anyone has heard of the problem |
| 04:27.10 | cheal | Acids: did you try to google it? |
| 04:27.12 | ke6isf | !ops gb0x is being a twat... |
| 04:27.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: gb0x is being a twat... |
| 04:27.15 | RoundQube | gb0x: im a fag because im not helping you pirate music? |
| 04:27.16 | Acids | yes |
| 04:27.18 | jlil | liable hello |
| 04:27.21 | Acids | I didn't see a fix |
| 04:27.22 | helix | umm |
| 04:27.27 | gb0x | no |
| 04:27.38 | RoundQube | gb0x: get over the whole p2p crap, it sucks |
| 04:27.44 | gb0x | your a fag for telling me to shut up, when you couldve just said "we dont help with piracy so dont talk about it" |
| 04:27.46 | ke6isf | gb0x: bubye. |
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| 04:27.51 | RoundQube | gb0x: shut up |
| 04:27.56 | cheal | ugh |
| 04:27.57 | jlil | can edit kde start up? |
| 04:27.58 | Dewi | gb0x: get used to it |
| 04:28.01 | gb0x | your sad. |
| 04:28.01 | timgoh0 | Dewi: And try look for the cause of the error |
| 04:28.06 | ke6isf | gb0x: It takes a fag to know a fag, sir. |
| 04:28.07 | RoundQube | gb0x: its "you're" |
| 04:28.16 | Dewi | gb0x: for a fearsome pirate you sure are sensitive |
| 04:28.21 | RoundQube | lol |
| 04:28.26 | jlil | crap in start up kde |
| 04:28.33 | helix | ok, I'm about to ban all of you |
| 04:28.33 | gb0x | RoundQube, it's 'internet', moreover, 'irc' not "english class" retard. |
| 04:28.37 | cheal | jlil: perhaps you want to make a script in $HOME/.kde/Autostart |
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| 04:28.40 | jlmb | Dewi: boot into single user |
| 04:28.40 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@CPE0080c6ea1e5c-CM0012253de026.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] by helix |
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| 04:28.40 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 04:28.47 | ke6isf | Azar: Not yet. |
| 04:28.50 | ke6isf | !beer helix |
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| 04:28.58 | helix | RoundQube, ke6isf: if you two misbehave anymore, you're both out of here |
| 04:29.01 | RoundQube | education doesn't stop because we are on the internet, but it apparently does for you |
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| 04:29.15 | RoundQube | im not here to fight |
| 04:29.41 | RoundQube | so anyhow, anyone know about message-id support for any linux newsreaders? |
| 04:29.47 | Dewi | helix: um... could I ask how they misbehaved? I'm not being patronising, I really can't tell. |
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| 04:29.50 | RoundQube | it would be a nice project actually, i haven't seen any |
| 04:29.52 | Azar | ok somebody start asking Debian questions again please |
| 04:30.02 | Dewi | helix: just the impoliteness? |
| 04:30.07 | helix | Dewi: feeding the troll; being impolite |
| 04:30.13 | Dewi | k |
| 04:30.21 | helix | the preference is to /ignore offensive people and call the ops |
| 04:30.30 | RoundQube | helix: noted for future reference |
| 04:30.42 | ke6isf | helix: Thank you for the reminder. |
| 04:30.48 | jlmb | how we know who are ops? |
| 04:30.54 | helix | thank you both for your continued patronage :P |
| 04:31.00 | Gnea | heh |
| 04:31.03 | helix | jlmb: you can type: !ops foo is a problem |
| 04:31.07 | RoundQube | jlmb: act up, get kicked, the one who kicked you is an op |
| 04:31.09 | jlmb | helix: coool |
| 04:31.10 | Dewi | jlmb: "[exclamation-mark]ops" seemed to work well |
| 04:31.11 | helix | jlmb: and it will yell at the ops via nick hilighting :) |
| 04:31.21 | ke6isf | jlmb: You see that list that came from dpkg when I invoked !ops back there? That's a list of ops. |
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| 04:31.40 | jlmb | ke6isf: only you saw it. |
| 04:31.49 | RoundQube | !ops |
| 04:31.49 | dpkg | Please invoke '! ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
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| 04:31.58 | ke6isf | jlmb: Um, no, it was visible to the entire channel. |
| 04:31.58 | RoundQube | ok |
| 04:32.06 | Pfated | dpkg: ops =~ s/! /!/ |
| 04:32.07 | dpkg | that doesn't contain '! ', Pfated |
| 04:32.08 | RoundQube | ke6isf: i didn't see it |
| 04:32.11 | Pfated | Does SO! |
| 04:32.15 | Pfated | Oh well. |
| 04:32.18 | ke6isf | Meh. |
| 04:32.28 | jlmb | ke6isf: Me neither |
| 04:32.45 | jlmb | Dewi: you fixed your problem yet? |
| 04:33.06 | Dewi | jlmb: no... |
| 04:33.36 | helix | Pfated: where did your 'h' go? |
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| 04:33.48 | helix | you should get rid of the 'a' too and just be Pffted |
| 04:33.53 | Pfated | helix: Different client, different nick. |
| 04:33.58 | ke6isf | helix: He turned German. =^^= |
| 04:34.05 | jlmb | Dewi: why don't you boot into single user mode? |
| 04:34.06 | helix | ke6isf: "she" |
| 04:34.09 | Pfated | I am not German. Nor am I a he. |
| 04:34.12 | ke6isf | helix: That too. |
| 04:34.14 | Dewi | jlmb: what would I do then? |
| 04:34.16 | ke6isf | Pfated: My bad. |
| 04:34.16 | jlil | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.19 | helix | she could be german though |
| 04:34.24 | jlmb | Dewi: Fix gdm? |
| 04:34.28 | buu | HELX |
| 04:34.28 | Pfated | Chinese! I can't... TURN german. |
| 04:34.32 | helix | BU |
| 04:34.33 | Dewi | jlmb: well, thing is, I'm sshed in now |
| 04:34.36 | buu | =] |
| 04:34.41 | buu | helix: I got positive karma |
| 04:34.41 | Dewi | jlmb: I don't see much use in going to single if I can get to it via ssh. |
| 04:34.43 | helix | Pfated: your people are making me support chinese games |
| 04:34.45 | Pfated | Dewi: You can stop gdm while SSHed in. |
| 04:34.47 | helix | buu: I know, I checked the other day |
| 04:34.51 | cheal | I think we're approaching sunday. |
| 04:34.52 | Pfated | helix: MY people? I have PEOPLE now? :D |
| 04:34.53 | Dewi | Pfated: good point |
| 04:34.53 | buu | helix: Hurray |
| 04:34.55 | timgoh0 | Pfated: You've just disappointed a lot of people. |
| 04:34.58 | helix | Pfated: your .sg people |
| 04:35.00 | cheal | oh wait, we're there already. that explains |
| 04:35.15 | Pfated | helix: Bloody hell, seriously? Get your people to call my people. |
| 04:35.21 | helix | ok |
| 04:35.22 | Pfated | timgoh0: You don't count as 'a lot'. |
| 04:35.24 | timgoh0 | helix: I don't think she sees herself as part of .sg people. |
| 04:35.30 | helix | they will be speaking a mixture of cantonese and singlish |
| 04:35.34 | Pfated | Bahahaahha, |
| 04:35.38 | Pfated | hahahah. |
| 04:35.40 | ppcuser | hello,I just got finished with the debian install but I do not have x11.How can I get it with apt? |
| 04:35.47 | Dewi | is there a sensible way to just disable GDM service from starting at boot? |
| 04:35.49 | timgoh0 | helix: We have a stereotype now? Yay. |
| 04:35.55 | Pfated | Dewi: Remove gdm. :) |
| 04:35.56 | helix | timgoh0: ? |
| 04:35.57 | Dewi | I don't think apt-get remove is appropriate |
| 04:36.00 | timgoh0 | Dewi: Remove the symlinks |
| 04:36.03 | cheal | ppcuser: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 04:36.04 | Dewi | Pfated: yeah that's what they all say :P |
| 04:36.06 | timgoh0 | in rc.$runlevel |
| 04:36.12 | Pfated | Dewi: Well, it's a method. |
| 04:36.21 | ppcuser | cheal: thanks |
| 04:36.24 | jlmb | Dewi: update-rc.d |
| 04:36.29 | helix | timgoh0: these people actually do speak a mixture of cantonese and singlish -- I'm not talking about imaginary people here |
| 04:36.38 | Pfated | Heh, imaginary people. |
| 04:36.52 | Pfated | helix: It's not a problem, though, is it? I mean, you speak Chinese and stuffs, don't you? |
| 04:36.58 | timgoh0 | helix: Nah. Just a random musing. I -am- from singapore. Just not really aware that we had a stereotype. |
| 04:37.01 | helix | I don't have to speak to them, luckily |
| 04:37.09 | Dewi | timgoh0: you do lah |
| 04:37.09 | Pfated | helix: Quite honestly, though, even if I had people, I can't really do anything. Sucks to be you. :) |
| 04:37.17 | helix | timgoh0: oh :) well, the singlish is sort of a stereotype, but not a well known one, afaik |
| 04:37.39 | timgoh0 | helix: So, what is your general opinion of "my people". Purely academic. No offense will be taken. |
| 04:38.03 | helix | timgoh0: the ones I've dealt with have seemed nice and hard working, but that's umm.. not really a very large sample |
| 04:38.49 | timgoh0 | helix: ...and underpaid. |
| 04:38.58 | helix | I don't know anything about their salaries :) |
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| 04:39.04 | Dewi | okay, in the gdm error screens, "8" works like TAB, "d" works like enter, sometimes "w" works like enter |
| 04:39.11 | Pfated | SOMETIMES? |
| 04:39.19 | Dewi | yes |
| 04:39.26 | Pfated | Cool. |
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| 04:39.28 | Dewi | actually d works pretty well |
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| 04:39.34 | timgoh0 | Dewi: Keymap? |
| 04:39.44 | cheal | Dewi: do you see "Microsoft" written on your keyboard? |
| 04:39.48 | Dewi | timgoh0: more detail? :P |
| 04:39.52 | Dewi | cheal: no, it's an old PS2 |
| 04:39.52 | jlmb | Dewi: broken keyboard? |
| 04:40.04 | Dewi | jlmb: works in grub :P |
| 04:40.07 | Dewi | and in console |
| 04:40.15 | Dewi | just all remapped on the "GDM can't start" screen |
| 04:40.54 | timgoh0 | Dewi: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or whatever xserver you are using |
| 04:41.17 | Dewi | timgoh0: I don't know what I'm using. How do I search installed packages? |
| 04:41.20 | cheal | Dewi: so, it's just a matter of finding which key is enter when it happens? |
| 04:41.23 | Dewi | timgoh0: I just switched to xorg you see |
| 04:41.28 | Dewi | timgoh0: and a new kernel. and a new gnome. |
| 04:41.37 | Dewi | cheal: it's D |
| 04:41.42 | Dewi | cheal: 8 is tab |
| 04:41.51 | Dewi | I think xorg maybe migrated my old X settings *really badly*? |
| 04:41.54 | Pfated | You know, if you used xorg... wouldn't you be using the xorg xserver? |
| 04:41.58 | cheal | Dewi: let's say you fix X, will there still be a problem? |
| 04:42.02 | timgoh0 | Dewi: Xorg? It should be xserver-xorg then |
| 04:42.03 | hile | Dewi: you have written your own config? |
| 04:42.07 | Dewi | hile: no |
| 04:42.19 | hile | check xorg.conf anyway ... |
| 04:42.23 | Pfated | !drxx Dewi |
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| 04:42.25 | dpkg | Dewi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 04:42.25 | hile | keyboard -> kbd in drivers |
| 04:42.26 | Dewi | Pfated: I don't really understand the difference |
| 04:42.43 | jlmb | How much longer will it take to gnome 2.12 to get in unstable? |
| 04:42.47 | cheal | according to what Dewi says he's not running X at that point anyway |
| 04:42.55 | Pfated | Dewi: <shrug> I'm on Xfree. And TBH, I've not experienced your issue. |
| 04:42.55 | Dewi | yeah, it can't start |
| 04:43.31 | timgoh0 | Dewi: It doesn't really matter. Just run dpkg-reconfigure for the appropriate package. In your case, this would be xserver-xorg |
| 04:43.33 | hile | as I said shortly, Section "InputDevice" -> Driver "keyboard", it's now Driver "kbd" - but dpkg-reconfigure should create you a new file anyway |
| 04:43.35 | cheal | Dewi: you'll have to fix X's problem anyway |
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| 04:43.53 | Dewi | it claims not to know what my video card is |
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| 04:44.00 | Dewi | and starts to ask really tough questions |
| 04:44.06 | cheal | Dewi: try vesa temporarily maybe |
| 04:44.14 | Dewi | is it safe to ctrl-c out of debconf? |
| 04:44.19 | hile | yes |
| 04:44.25 | cheal | I'm not sure that works |
| 04:44.32 | Dewi | you're right it doesn't |
| 04:44.36 | Dewi | I want to change my answer! |
| 04:44.41 | hile | but it's safe ;) |
| 04:44.43 | Dewi | I don't want to enter my video card's bus id |
| 04:44.46 | cheal | finish, then run it again |
| 04:44.52 | hile | Dewi: you don't need to |
| 04:44.56 | cheal | Dewi: just leave blank, as it says |
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| 04:45.28 | Dewi | it wasn't blank. But I'm just hitting enter :P |
| 04:45.31 | Pfated | You know, on that screen, the last line is 'Most people can leave this blank', or something to that effect. |
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| 04:45.33 | hile | and if the configuration doesn't work you can just run it again |
| 04:46.07 | hile | the configuration is really 'press enter if you don't want to change default', it's quite good guessing correct values with new hardware |
| 04:46.17 | Dewi | btw |
| 04:46.20 | Dewi | it's a geforce4 |
| 04:46.22 | Dewi | not exactly obscure |
| 04:46.37 | cheal | Dewi: which driver did you use? |
| 04:46.41 | Dewi | nv |
| 04:46.53 | cheal | hum, nv should work. if not, try vesa |
| 04:48.07 | hile | I think you really need to check what debconf asks if you're running something reeeaally old stuff, never seen any trouble with recent hardware |
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| 04:48.26 | Dewi | gf4 isn't that old |
| 04:48.29 | hile | and, whatever, it just writes /etc/X11/xorg.conf, nothing else is changed |
| 04:48.37 | ke6isf | feh, this headache is killing me... time for sleep. |
| 04:48.47 | hile | yeah I'm talking about cards from last millenium ;) |
| 04:48.54 | cheal | that's hard to generalize. X is a pain to configure |
| 04:49.22 | Dewi | the ironic thing here is that I don't care about xfree or xorg |
| 04:49.25 | hile | cheal,not these days, because almost everything can be reasonably well autodetected |
| 04:49.28 | Dewi | I just want vncserver to work again |
| 04:49.36 | Azar | it was a pain for me at the beginning but after trying several variants, I got the sequence steps and now it goes ok |
| 04:49.36 | Dewi | but it's broken too |
| 04:49.37 | cheal | hile: I disagree |
| 04:49.48 | Octayv | okay... how the hell do I chmod a file on a mounted disk from a livedisk? |
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| 04:50.07 | hile | well, I've written modelines to XFree configuration with calculator, _that_ was pain to configure ;) |
| 04:50.11 | liable | Octayv: what live disk |
| 04:50.15 | cheal | Octayv: it's monted rw, right? |
| 04:50.28 | Octayv | it;s knoppix std |
| 04:50.33 | Octayv | the only one i could find |
| 04:50.57 | Octayv | cheal: yeah |
| 04:51.03 | makad | Octayv: cdrom = Compat Disk Read Only Medium. |
| 04:51.09 | cheal | Octayv: what's the issue? |
| 04:51.19 | cheal | hah |
| 04:51.23 | Octayv | I'm trying to modify the files on my hard disk |
| 04:51.25 | dogmeat | ive been trying to compile kernel headers with gcc-4.0, but as from buildinfo.gz, the headers ought to be compiled with gcc-3.3.5. i have it installed already, along with gcc-4.0. how can i cause the correct gcc to be used? |
| 04:51.29 | Octayv | it won't boot |
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| 04:52.00 | makad | dogmeat: CC=gcc-3.4 |
| 04:52.01 | cheal | Octayv: and what keeps you from chmoding them? |
| 04:52.01 | Octayv | cheal: I want to say it's ed 3? |
| 04:52.15 | cheal | Octayv: what? |
| 04:52.27 | hile | Octayv: check once more that it's actually mounted rw, there is nothing special with live discs and mounting |
| 04:52.42 | Octayv | cheal: oh, misspoke, it's 2.4.2 |
| 04:52.53 | Octayv | I didn't think there was |
| 04:53.01 | Octayv | lemme unmount and remount just to be sure |
| 04:53.02 | cheal | Octayv: what 2.4.2? |
| 04:53.13 | Octayv | that's the release |
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| 04:53.23 | makad | Octayv: that is not point. 2.4.2 400.500.100 waht are numbers? |
| 04:53.28 | cheal | Knoppix 2.4.2 :? |
| 04:53.39 | Octayv | apparently |
| 04:53.41 | makad | Octayv: rw = read-write |
| 04:54.00 | cheal | did you get that from your grandmother ? |
| 04:54.03 | Octayv | yeah, it's -rwx across the board |
| 04:54.07 | hile | no no |
| 04:54.14 | Octayv | I've had it forever |
| 04:54.26 | makad | Octayv: in mount you must give rw option. |
| 04:54.29 | hile | check if mount says (rw) for the filesystem |
| 04:54.39 | hile | mount -orw /dev/hdan /foo |
| 04:54.51 | makad | Octayv: what is type of fs? |
| 04:54.57 | hile | if the filesystem is not clean you might need run fsck on it first |
| 04:55.29 | makad | Octayv: what are you trying to do? |
| 04:55.58 | makad | Octayv: s/you trying/you really trying/ |
| 04:56.03 | hile | and btw, if you're modifying ntfs or ufs filesystems: those don't have write enabled on the driver level by default |
| 04:56.11 | Octayv | hile, you' |
| 04:56.15 | Octayv | re my hero |
| 04:56.28 | Octayv | that was the ticket |
| 04:56.38 | makad | !beer hile |
| 04:56.38 | hile | ;) |
| 04:56.42 | Octayv | thanks all |
| 04:56.59 | hile | funny it didn't mount it rw in the first place |
| 04:57.02 | Dewi | what is /dev/input/mouse? |
| 04:57.04 | hile | or did you run fsck? |
| 04:57.05 | Octayv | Yeah I know |
| 04:57.12 | hile | Dewi: it's just fine, use it |
| 04:57.12 | makad | im liking these ! calls. who is writing? |
| 04:57.15 | Octayv | na, I just went straight into it |
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| 04:57.34 | cheal | makad: writing? |
| 04:57.37 | Octayv | so whatever knoppix decided was best |
| 04:57.44 | hile | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.54 | makad | who is writing these ! calls on the #debian irc? |
| 04:57.57 | Dewi | so it does |
| 04:58.02 | Dewi | it was the mouse stopping x from starting |
| 04:58.06 | hile | ack |
| 04:58.07 | Dewi | I had to plug in a mouse and reboot |
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| 04:58.26 | cheal | makad: anyone |
| 04:58.43 | makad | no i know why #debian is a fun place. |
| 04:58.44 | cheal | dpkg: makad is a beer drinker that doesn't know how to create factoids |
| 04:58.45 | dpkg | cheal: okay |
| 04:58.53 | makad | s/no/now/ |
| 04:59.42 | Octayv | exit |
| 04:59.47 | Octayv | whoops... wrong screen |
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| 05:00.29 | makad | Dewi: Option AllowMouseOpenFail |
| 05:00.35 | webfreak | gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 1:2.10.2.3) but it is not going to be installed |
| 05:00.38 | webfreak | nice |
| 05:00.54 | webfreak | i guess that's what i get for using unstable |
| 05:01.15 | cheal | webfreak: oh, that's just a small part |
| 05:01.20 | makad | webfreak: try 'apt-get -t unstable' |
| 05:01.52 | makad | webfreak: on the other hand. dont. i dont want to deal with instability on sunday morning. |
| 05:02.06 | webfreak | makad: i'm not worried about it |
| 05:02.09 | makad | webfreak: try 'apt-get -t testing' |
| 05:02.13 | webfreak | makad: it'll get fixed whenever it does |
| 05:03.02 | webfreak | also, both of those just spit out the help text |
| 05:03.13 | makad | webfreak: unstable is rolling down the hill on its way to stable. |
| 05:03.26 | webfreak | makad: ok |
| 05:03.26 | Pfated | Uhm? Unstable stays unstable. |
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| 05:03.32 | makad | webfreak: oh. no. it crushed a lot of people on its way! |
| 05:03.38 | webfreak | haha |
| 05:03.40 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:03.41 | webfreak | right |
| 05:03.45 | Dewi | makad: it's *up* the hil. |
| 05:03.47 | Dewi | l |
| 05:04.03 | webfreak | like i said, it's just an annoyance |
| 05:04.04 | makad | Dewi: ah. you are sisyphus. |
| 05:04.09 | Azar | I remember last year I went up to unstable from woody. Honestly, everything was running nice and smooth, got my sound, my X my desktop manager, feh, xmms, firefox, gaim.. everything woked without a flaw for about 2 months then suddenly desktop programs stopped responding, thats about all I had with unstable, eventually I reinstalled |
| 05:04.14 | webfreak | i know about the headaches that come with it ;) |
| 05:04.56 | webfreak | i hate it when people talk in paragraphs on irc. |
| 05:05.08 | Azar | it is a pitty to work , upgrade and install with love then after a while everything gets fucked |
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| 05:05.35 | makad | webfreak: but sometimes with slow clients separate lines come on separate screens. |
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| 05:06.05 | Azar | good day honorable liable |
| 05:06.12 | makad | Azar: did you file bug report? unstable is for those love the bts. |
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| 05:06.19 | webfreak | Azar: no offense of course |
| 05:06.58 | Azar | makad, if I would be a guru I would at least know what it was, simply the browser, xmms, feh stopped responding, or were closing and dissapearing |
| 05:07.13 | Azar | I assume it was something with dependencies |
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| 05:07.43 | makad | Azar: ah. when everything not obeying then whom to blame? like traffic in India. |
| 05:07.48 | rixth | I can't unmount a partition because gam_server keeps accessig it! How can I unmount it? |
| 05:08.04 | Azar | I would fill a bug if I could give a decent description of the issue, but also I feel my newbiness got something to do with the stuff |
| 05:08.05 | makad | rixth: killall -9 gam |
| 05:08.24 | makad | s/$/_server/ |
| 05:08.49 | rixth | makad, it just starts back up immediatley. I've been trying that |
| 05:09.06 | Azar | makad, in my short experience with Debian, if a newbie like me goes on a rampage using unstable and start install all non-debian stuff around, I would expect the system to make faces at me |
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| 05:09.43 | makad | rixth: probably gnome session manager which restarts. open menu about session applications or some such. |
| 05:09.54 | Azar | makad plus I was upgrading kernels in a totally non-debian manner, a gentoo friend was teaching me to upgrade kernels |
| 05:10.01 | rixth | makad, don't use gnome. Openbox3 & fbpanel |
| 05:10.16 | rixth | I'll just rename the gam_server binary for a moment |
| 05:10.40 | Azar | wow openbox went 3 |
| 05:10.40 | makad | Azar: have you tried "testing"? |
| 05:10.55 | makad | rixth: that is a clever idea. |
| 05:11.04 | Azar | makad, no, at the moment I am fixed on learning security and bash scripting |
| 05:11.23 | makad | rixth: but don't forget to name it back. |
| 05:11.26 | webfreak | Azar: bash scripting is fun. |
| 05:11.27 | grendal_prime | i cant for the life of me remember in postgressql to get the current time is it now() |
| 05:11.29 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 05:11.38 | makad | Azar: oh. for that stable is just fine. |
| 05:11.44 | rixth | makad, it started itself back up as the file I renamed it to. Ahhh! |
| 05:11.45 | grendal_prime | cause that seems to do nothen |
| 05:11.51 | Azar | webfreak, I reserve bash scripting as desert, now I had to eat the spinach: tcp/ip |
| 05:12.04 | webfreak | Azar: i had a class last semester that taught shell scripting and regular expressions, awk, sed, etc |
| 05:12.28 | makad | all: rixth has virus called gam_server on his machine. please help. |
| 05:12.29 | webfreak | Azar: heh, that's fun too... i've learned a little of that through reading my CCNA study book |
| 05:12.39 | Azar | webfreak, lucky you, I cannot afford school, teachers, so I struggle myself with the books |
| 05:12.48 | webfreak | Azar: :( |
| 05:12.48 | grendal_prime | sed rocks |
| 05:12.50 | Azar | I am reading Comer's book |
| 05:13.02 | grendal_prime | its so frigging fast it scares the shit out of me sometimes |
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| 05:13.07 | rixth | makad, wait, I never actually removed the binary gam_server I just copied it but never deleted the original. Unmounted now! |
| 05:13.16 | webfreak | Azar: at least you're taking the initiative to learn it though |
| 05:13.25 | makad | Azar: tcp/ip very tasty. Install "socat" and enjoy playing with sockets. |
| 05:13.46 | Azar | webfreak, frustrating is that I need more time but with the job I can't afford more than 3 hours of reading |
| 05:13.48 | makad | rixth: use "mv". |
| 05:13.56 | webfreak | Azar: *nod*, i understand |
| 05:14.17 | Azar | makad, I love learning, that is all I have left as joy for now |
| 05:14.17 | webfreak | Azar: i'm busy enough with 15 hours of classes |
| 05:14.47 | makad | grendal_prime: friend i knew did all editing from command line in "sed". |
| 05:14.51 | Dewi | if I start gnome throught gdm and log in, my keyboard works. if I tell gnome-session to run on a vnc X server, however, gnome pops and and tells me there is a keyboard conflict between X and gnome. But no matter which I choose, my keyboard is totally bizarre and broken. |
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| 05:15.10 | Guerin | makad: i think there's a wiki written in awk |
| 05:15.23 | cheal | muahaha |
| 05:15.32 | Dewi | is there some way I can see which keyboard type gnome and X claim to be using? |
| 05:15.38 | cheal | wiki follows hello world |
| 05:15.39 | Azar | Dewi try openbox, is way easier than gnome |
| 05:15.54 | makad | Dewi: xset -q |
| 05:16.09 | Dewi | makad: how? |
| 05:16.10 | cheal | !drxx Dewi |
| 05:16.11 | dpkg | Dewi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 05:16.12 | hile | Dewi: if you select from the conflict dialog 'use X settings' it will use whatever you configured |
| 05:16.13 | Dewi | makad: I can't type |
| 05:16.19 | Dewi | makad: and that needs a display |
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| 05:16.41 | makad | Dewi: DISPLAY=name of display xset -q. |
| 05:16.46 | Dewi | cheal: what's your point? I've done that 3 times today and only ever selected "us keyboard" |
| 05:16.56 | Azar | off topic anyone seen 99 bottles of beer programming site? |
| 05:17.05 | grendal_prime | sed..you can change ever file with .html to php i mean...every one on a huge site...in a matter of seconds |
| 05:17.20 | cheal | Dewi: ah, sorry, I think I understand what you mean, but I guess it uses us then |
| 05:17.22 | Dewi | hile: well, I've never configured anything but "us keyboard" and the letter L is some kind of backquote |
| 05:17.35 | grendal_prime | and on top of that you can change the href's in the docs themselfs so that they point to the new files |
| 05:17.44 | makad | Dewi: xset is a command line utility that uses teh environment variable DISPLAY providing the user has the relevant authority to connect to the X server. |
| 05:17.44 | hile | yeah, but when you start gnome it can select different keyboard if you've configured it so |
| 05:18.15 | hile | and the question about conflicting types is just that you _have_ different configuration in X-server and in gnome-keyboard-properties |
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| 05:19.08 | makad | hile: i think Dewi's problem is that Xvnc has perhaps no configuration file for specifying keybd. |
| 05:19.14 | hile | yep |
| 05:19.17 | Dewi | oh great |
| 05:19.20 | Dewi | suddenly it works |
| 05:19.24 | Dewi | on the 4th startup! |
| 05:19.37 | hile | don't know about Xvnc configuration, never used |
| 05:19.50 | makad | Dewi: dont stop now. figure out why. |
| 05:20.30 | dings | and end up reading stacktraces :) |
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| 05:21.12 | Dewi | gnome-keyboard-properties says unknown model |
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| 05:21.26 | revenger_ | is there any tool available that determines the external ip address of a network? |
| 05:21.27 | makad | Dewi: actually the command is not "xset" its "xmodmap". |
| 05:21.29 | Dewi | but us layout is in the list |
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| 05:22.01 | Dewi | makad: not much there, a handful of bindings |
| 05:22.06 | dings | revenger_: ssh out somewhere and who or w, perhaps? |
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| 05:22.16 | makad | revenger_: question not making sense. There are *no* IP addresses outside of internet. |
| 05:22.31 | enryibm | hola |
| 05:22.35 | dings | makad: outside NAT it seemed to me |
| 05:22.41 | Dewi | makad: there are IPs designated by IANA as private, non-world-routable |
| 05:22.43 | Guerin | he's talking about a private subnet |
| 05:22.44 | revenger_ | dings: makad well I'm looking for a prewritten script or so.. maybe something that accesses a website which prints the ip or so |
| 05:23.16 | Guerin | revenger_: visiting http://iplookup.flashfxp.com/ should tell you, if you have internet access |
| 05:23.22 | hile | makad: xmodmap is Old Stuff, these days you should use setxkbmap |
| 05:23.25 | makad | revenger_: ah. you want to go to some site and have it tell you where you are coming from. |
| 05:23.26 | revenger_ | hopefully something apt-gettable :-) if it doesn't exist I'll write it by my own... |
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| 05:23.41 | revenger_ | makad: only something that determines the extern ip |
| 05:23.46 | Guerin | but not necessarily reliable, depending on how the nat host is set up |
| 05:23.48 | dings | revenger_: if this is a dsl router with NAT, you usualy can telnet to them and ask (at least on one I once had) |
| 05:23.54 | revenger_ | I need it for dyndns... |
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| 05:24.14 | sobersabre | hi all |
| 05:24.16 | Guerin | revenger_: do you have shell access to the NAT machine? |
| 05:24.17 | hile | xmodmap is fine for tweaking a certain key, but for generic configuration setxkbmap is better |
| 05:24.26 | revenger_ | Guerin: sure |
| 05:24.28 | Guerin | revenger_: oh, wait |
| 05:24.33 | Guerin | !dyndns.org |
| 05:24.33 | dpkg | dyndns.org is probably a nice, free service that lets you map a dns name to your ip address. there are many programs to update this service automatically. "apt-get install ddclient" kinda explains itself. feel free to correct this text and make it sound better |
| 05:24.35 | revenger_ | wonder why dyndns wants to know the ip actually... |
| 05:24.36 | sobersabre | what's the difference of category5E and category6 cables for gigabit network ? |
| 05:24.39 | Guerin | revenger_: there's a dyndns client in debian |
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| 05:24.46 | sobersabre | i understand both will work... |
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| 05:25.03 | revenger_ | ddclient resolves the ip of an interface .. |
| 05:25.07 | makad | hile: thanks. i learnt a new command today setxkbmap. |
| 05:25.13 | revenger_ | but doesn't take the routers external ip |
| 05:25.21 | sobersabre | higher rates/lower latencies or is it just "chance to have" them ? |
| 05:25.24 | revenger_ | well I'll take iplookup.flashfxp.com |
| 05:25.28 | revenger_ | thanks .. |
| 05:25.31 | Guerin | revenger_: that's what I use |
| 05:25.53 | streuner | revenger_: that's usually the 'work' of your router... |
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| 05:26.23 | revenger_ | streuner: the router has no accessable operating system on it.. |
| 05:26.30 | revenger_ | it's a hardware device.. |
| 05:26.41 | dings | revenger_: some of them have telnet access |
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| 05:26.56 | streuner | revenger_: well, those router have mostly dyndns in firmware |
| 05:26.57 | rixth | http://www.google.co.nz/preferences?hl=en Google easter egg? I'm probably not the first to notice. Look in the "Display Google tips and messages in" select box |
| 05:27.09 | revenger_ | dings: but nothing that I know runs on it (not even perl or so..) I'd have to flash the whole thing.. |
| 05:27.15 | revenger_ | since it's not even my router I won't touch it... |
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| 05:27.43 | dings | revenger_: :) |
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| 05:28.05 | Azar | xuxa read here maybe you find your issue: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/309612 |
| 05:28.13 | xuxa | Azar: thank you! |
| 05:28.18 | helix | my mom has a cat named xuxa |
| 05:28.38 | makad | helix: my mom has a cat named felix |
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| 05:28.56 | helix | well, I call my mom's cat sushi |
| 05:29.12 | xuxa | helix: hehe. It was my nickname in spanish class |
| 05:29.22 | HunterX | oh |
| 05:29.37 | helix | yeah, I think there was some woman who had a talk show |
| 05:29.39 | helix | and her name was xuxa |
| 05:29.58 | revenger_ | ddclient -ip `lynx --dump iplookup.flashfxp.com` will do :) |
| 05:30.26 | xuxa | helix: that's right. As I understand it she used to be a porn star and now does children's tv shows. (Note: my life is not nearly so exciting. :) |
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| 05:30.37 | helix | xuxa: yeah, entirely possible |
| 05:30.40 | xuxa | :) |
| 05:30.46 | chquite | ÔõÃīÃŧČËËĩššŨÖ |
| 05:30.51 | helix | though I am curious how you ended up with a female nickname |
| 05:31.01 | streuner | revenger_: clever ! |
| 05:31.24 | xuxa | helix: I'm not exactly sure either... somehow it stuck. (You're right to guess I'm male) |
| 05:31.35 | helix | I didn't guess, you have your name in /whois :) |
| 05:31.39 | xuxa | ha! |
| 05:32.05 | helix | I named my mother's cat after the talk show lady |
| 05:32.12 | helix | maybe there aren't many xuxas in the world |
| 05:32.27 | xuxa | Azar: hrm... I can't tell if that page will solve my issue... nor how to actually do what it says if it would... :) |
| 05:32.32 | xuxa | helix: I think you're probably right |
| 05:32.51 | xuxa | Is anyone using debian on RAID 1 SATA drives here? I'm a bit stuck... |
| 05:33.20 | Dewi | xuxa: I'm using SATA, but no RAID |
| 05:33.24 | Azar | xuxa, reading more on google I see people get around the issue by configuring the BIOS |
| 05:33.26 | hile | it's nv-specific problem, not raid 1 |
| 05:33.31 | xuxa | Azar: oh really?! |
| 05:33.35 | xuxa | Azar: that sounds promising |
| 05:33.36 | hile | neither generic sata... |
| 05:33.42 | Azar | xuxa, is a nv mobo issue |
| 05:34.01 | xuxa | Azar: wow, great... I'm looking too but I don't seem to be finding the gems you are... |
| 05:34.03 | xuxa | any links? |
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| 05:34.12 | Azar | holdon |
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| 05:34.28 | xuxa | Dewi: I assume you've never had any "nv_sata: primary device added" errors... ? |
| 05:34.43 | Azar | xuxa browse and see if you get an idea http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nv_raid |
| 05:34.43 | Dewi | xuxa: not that I've noticed |
| 05:34.50 | xuxa | Azar: thank you so much |
| 05:34.58 | xuxa | Dewi: ok, thanks very much anyway |
| 05:35.07 | Dewi | xuxa: although I'm using an NV chipset, I don't know if nv_sata existed per se on my board... it's old and I think the SATA stuff is purely silicon image |
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| 05:36.25 | xuxa | Dewi: gotcha |
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| 05:36.46 | cheal | damn, is there a way to reply to a mail on alioth (pipermail) when you didn't get it (see it in the archives). without breaking threading |
| 05:36.52 | xuxa | Azar: all sorts of good stuff searching "nv_raid" thanks! |
| 05:37.33 | nvz | man its only 1:30 am and I am up and feel like I slept all night or something |
| 05:37.39 | Azar | good luck xuxa |
| 05:38.15 | nvz | 1hr is hardly a nights sleep but oh well :P |
| 05:38.35 | nvz | no point in laying in bed awake, right.. |
| 05:38.37 | hile | just had my sunday morning coffee (8:38am here) |
| 05:39.32 | nvz | have one for me too, I dont drink coffee |
| 05:39.39 | hile | I woke up by dropping from my bed, directly over my laptop ... luckily neither broke ;) |
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| 05:40.30 | jlil | hey |
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| 05:41.23 | sputnik | lo |
| 05:41.42 | nvz | I was tired around 7pm and purposly stayed up until almost midnight so I wouldnt end up waking up at 3am.. and then I wake up at 20 till 2 anyhow |
| 05:41.49 | jlil | liable |
| 05:41.59 | nvz | this is rediculous :P |
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| 05:43.01 | sobersabre | can somebody tell me how viewable is the difference of gigabit interconnection with cat5e vs cat6 ? any measures on the net ? |
| 05:43.30 | xuxa | Dewi: do you have a guess whether dma should be enabled for the sata drives in the bios or not? |
| 05:43.35 | sobersabre | I only got the data - bandwidth etc. is cat6 worth it at all ? |
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| 05:43.54 | sobersabre | (I'm sure cat6 will cost more) |
| 05:44.06 | Dewi | xuxa: I'd venture a yes? what's the alternative? port I/O? |
| 05:44.06 | nvz | I've never seen or heard of cat6 *shrug* |
| 05:44.19 | Dewi | xuxa: port I/O is slow and dodgy |
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| 05:44.51 | xuxa | Dewi: the bios has an "enable / disable" option for DMA on sata drives |
| 05:44.53 | sobersabre | nvz, I've never SEEN, but heard. there's specifications, but, i wanted to see some real life experience... guess it won't work. |
| 05:45.01 | xuxa | Dewi: it was off by default but I'm with you... I think it should be on |
| 05:45.05 | xuxa | Dewi: thanks! |
| 05:45.06 | hile | sobersabre: afaik cat6 _cable_ isn't so much more expensive, it's the connectors... |
| 05:45.17 | Dewi | xuxa: odd that it would be off by default |
| 05:45.27 | xuxa | hile: oh really?.. I didn't know that the connectors were different... |
| 05:45.27 | sobersabre | hile, and what's the "performance boost" I can expect ? |
| 05:45.30 | xuxa | Dewi: indeed |
| 05:45.42 | hile | just higher quality, methinks |
| 05:45.57 | hile | sobersabre: well, I use fibre only with gigabit so can't really say ;) |
| 05:46.10 | sobersabre | bastard ... ;) |
| 05:46.28 | bob2 | cat-6 is only a little more expensive |
| 05:46.34 | xuxa | hile: gotcha |
| 05:46.40 | sobersabre | but copper is more flexible :) |
| 05:47.14 | sobersabre | and it can be melted for other use... fiber - polluts.. muhahaha |
| 05:47.27 | sobersabre | s/ts/tes/g |
| 05:47.38 | jlil | liable it lost my reg name |
| 05:48.02 | liable | jlil: /msg nickserv help |
| 05:48.20 | jlil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:49.25 | zenum | hey, does anyone know how to get debian wondershaper to not filter local traffic? |
| 05:49.38 | zenum | or rather to not shape local traffic? |
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| 05:49.48 | bob2 | if it doesn't have an option for that ,yo ucan do it yourself with iptables + tc |
| 05:49.55 | hile | well, at home I just have whatever cat5 I find in corners, really don't care even if all ports are gigabit copper, where it matters at work we have fibre for everything |
| 05:50.57 | zenum | bob2: unfortunately i don't understand iptables :s they confuse me too much |
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| 05:52.54 | lildude2005 | liable do you msn |
| 05:52.58 | lildude2005 | or gaim |
| 05:53.00 | liable | no |
| 05:53.12 | lildude2005 | caus cant mssg it wont take pass or user |
| 05:53.16 | liable | lildude2005: /nick jlil |
| 05:53.32 | lildude2005 | were do i put that |
| 05:53.34 | liable | lildude2005: /msg nickserv identify password |
| 05:53.39 | lildude2005 | were |
| 05:53.44 | liable | lildude2005: in your irc client... |
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| 05:54.03 | lildude2005 | kirsk clinet were i put it in kirsk |
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| 05:54.10 | liable | yes.. |
| 05:54.21 | liable | just type it.. |
| 05:54.26 | nvz | in gaim you can type irc commands into any IRC window |
| 05:54.28 | lildude2005 | liable were i putt it? |
| 05:54.48 | liable | exactly where you put everything in irc.. |
| 05:54.55 | lildude2005 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.55 | lildude2005 | <lildude2005> were |
| 05:55.06 | zenum | lildude2005: in the text box where you are typing now |
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| 05:55.43 | lildude2005 | lildude2005: /msg nickserv identify password |
| 05:55.52 | lildude2005 | wont take it liable |
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| 05:56.34 | liable | lildude2005: dude, first, /nick jlil |
| 05:57.04 | nvz | dude, whats mine say? |
| 05:57.07 | nvz | heh |
| 05:57.20 | liable | !phillismite nvz |
| 05:57.26 | liable | fuck it. |
| 05:57.34 | lildude2005 | > lildude2005: dude, first, /nick jlil |
| 05:57.41 | nvz | !yinzersmite liable |
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| 05:57.49 | liable | lildude2005: please stop doing that. |
| 05:57.55 | streuner_ | lilodud: /msg nickserv help set |
| 05:58.05 | lildude2005 | ok liable il stop |
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| 05:58.21 | liable | lildude2005: just type in, /nick jlil |
| 05:58.23 | lildude2005 | i tried it not work kirsk must died |
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| 05:58.47 | liable | yay! |
| 05:58.52 | streuner_ | -NickServ- PASSWORD Reset your nickname password |
| 05:58.54 | nvz | ffs :P |
| 05:59.25 | jlil | .msg nickserver jlill lilldude |
| 05:59.29 | liable | jlil: now type, /msg nickserv identify yourpasswaord |
| 06:00.08 | willfullrivatune | ls |
| 06:00.35 | liable | if it still exists.. |
| 06:02.14 | jlil | liable took it msg me |
| 06:02.44 | streuner_ | !congratulate jlil |
| 06:02.45 | dpkg | Good show jlil, you did it! |
| 06:03.06 | jlil | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.19 | jlil | hey |
| 06:04.30 | jlil | liable key is cranky must o died |
| 06:05.43 | willfullrivatune | what is must load modules to uses usb disk.... now is load usbhid and usbcore but i can't uses usb disk |
| 06:06.05 | liable | usb mass storage. |
| 06:06.05 | streuner_ | !usb-storage |
| 06:06.05 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 06:06.51 | willfullrivatune | ya i can't see sda or sdb in /dev |
| 06:07.10 | streuner_ | willfullrivatune: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 06:07.15 | liable | willfullrivatune: see what dmesg says about it when plugged in.. |
| 06:07.50 | willfullrivatune | Linux version 2.6.11.12-grsecnoobu (root@debian) (gcc version 3.4.4 20050314 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.3-13)) #2 Tue Jul 5 22:05:12 CST 2005 |
| 06:07.51 | willfullrivatune | root@debian:/home/biosedit# |
| 06:08.34 | streuner_ | well, use an official linux-image or kernel-image then |
| 06:08.58 | willfullrivatune | linux-image |
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| 06:12.56 | black_13 | i want to experiment with sid how do modify the sources.list file to update to sid |
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| 06:13.20 | Gnea | !sarge->sid |
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| 06:13.25 | Gnea | !sarge-sid |
| 06:13.27 | streuner | black_13: read that first |
| 06:13.30 | Gnea | urk |
| 06:13.31 | streuner | !sid faq |
| 06:13.31 | dpkg | it has been said that sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 06:13.32 | willfullrivatune | if i can copy usb-storage and sd_mod from other computer and modprobe ,is it all right..... |
| 06:13.43 | streuner | no |
| 06:13.51 | liable | black_13: well, if you dont know how to do that, do you think you can fix it when dpkg dies or something similar |
| 06:14.24 | black_13 | !sarge-sid |
| 06:15.38 | streuner | !tell black_13 about sid faq |
| 06:15.38 | Gnea | black_13: if you can deal with small and large package installations failing and giving errors on a regular basis and banging your head against the wall because things break randomly like that, go for it |
| 06:15.38 | black_13 | liable its only a computer man |
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| 06:15.40 | liable | black_13: well, go ahead then. |
| 06:15.59 | black_13 | hey can i ask you all a question why all the angst? |
| 06:16.35 | Gnea | cuz i'm hungry and eating and people piss me off when i'm hungry :) |
| 06:17.06 | Gnea | black_13: but seriously, sid has had some major instability issues lately |
| 06:17.10 | liable | @nnoy Gnea |
| 06:17.17 | liable | hah |
| 06:17.21 | Gnea | lol |
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| 06:17.22 | liable | @annoy Gnea |
| 06:17.22 | ravenbird | Gnea: HOW TO THIS????? |
| 06:17.36 | liable | thats betterer |
| 06:17.41 | Gnea | much :) |
| 06:18.05 | liable | now |
| 06:18.05 | black_13 | have something to eat and some kind of and some fiber |
| 06:18.11 | silverton_ | is it safe to do a dist-upgrade in testing? last I did it, it broke my system, but then it put xorg on my system, this time round, it's upgrading xfree |
| 06:18.13 | liable | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb |
| 06:18.21 | liable | doh |
| 06:18.29 | liable | one of those days... |
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| 06:22.47 | black_13 | i have change stable to testing next step would be apt-get update correct? |
| 06:23.47 | nvz | black_13: I would first apt-get install apt-listbugs and maybe apt-listchanges. then apt-get update |
| 06:23.48 | liable | yep |
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| 06:24.29 | TermaKill | hello |
| 06:24.46 | nvz | hello |
| 06:24.47 | liable | !hi TermaKill |
| 06:24.48 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai TermaKill! |
| 06:24.54 | TermaKill | :D |
| 06:25.30 | black_13 | wouldnt apt-get update then cause replacement ... |
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| 06:25.47 | saik0 | If I wanted to setup a cross platform, stable, secure VPN that doesn't take heroic effort to setup on a debian server where would you recommend i begin? |
| 06:25.48 | nvz | !confuse black_13 |
| 06:25.49 | dpkg | Yes, where is our gerbil today, black_13? trousers of the monarchy of tibet with extra herring |
| 06:27.01 | nvz | saik0: you would start by hiring an admin. I am sure someone around here will start out at about $120/hr or so |
| 06:27.04 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.05 | black_13 | are debian user naturally nasty or does debian cause them to be? |
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| 06:27.20 | nvz | black_13: you are making no sense to me at all |
| 06:27.27 | liable | oh dear, where is manoj |
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| 06:27.34 | black_13 | neither are you |
| 06:27.35 | nvz | black_13: apt-get update causes "replacement" of the apt cache |
| 06:27.38 | dings | black_13: used to be a bit friendlier |
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| 06:27.57 | nvz | no, I make perfect sense to me. |
| 06:27.58 | black_13 | dings me or this place? |
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| 06:28.14 | dings | black_13: this channel |
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| 06:28.33 | prohna | hurray i got debian installed |
| 06:28.38 | liable | black_13: before you start slagging us, how about doing, apt-get install apt-howto-es |
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| 06:28.49 | liable | err en |
| 06:28.51 | dings | hehe |
| 06:29.03 | dings | I was wondering a bit there |
| 06:29.06 | saik0 | nvz, and if I'm the closest thing to an admin we can afford =\ |
| 06:29.10 | prohna | okay i got debian installed and i managed to install xchat |
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| 06:29.29 | maskmon | =] |
| 06:29.39 | liable | black_13: also, apt-get install debian-reference-en |
| 06:29.43 | maskmon | i like irssi |
| 06:29.46 | prohna | but my screen resolution is set at 640 x 480 and looks horrid |
| 06:29.47 | coolball | !tell coolball about drxx |
| 06:29.49 | black_13 | thanks |
| 06:29.49 | prohna | what can i do? |
| 06:29.59 | vineet | prohna: do you have get |
| 06:30.04 | vineet | prohna: do you have get-edid installed? |
| 06:30.05 | prohna | apt-get yes |
| 06:30.06 | black_13 | it seems to be working |
| 06:30.12 | maskmon | prohna edit your Xfree86 config or Xorg config |
| 06:30.17 | maskmon | depending on which ur using |
| 06:30.26 | prohna | i dont know anything about what im doing really |
| 06:30.33 | prohna | this is a learning experience as a whole |
| 06:30.45 | coolball | !tell coolball about dcxx |
| 06:30.51 | prohna | to the point that i didnt know how to get to root for hours this morning |
| 06:30.56 | maskmon | ok well |
| 06:31.02 | vineet | prohna: the package is called read-edid. Once you have that, try "get-edid | parse-edid" (as root) |
| 06:31.04 | dings | prohna: thats the best and most confusing way to go about it :) |
| 06:31.06 | maskmon | prohna: go to /etc/X11 |
| 06:31.08 | maskmon | as root |
| 06:31.09 | maskmon | =] |
| 06:31.22 | liable | no dont hand edit it.. |
| 06:31.26 | maskmon | and you will see your XFree86 config |
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| 06:31.43 | nvz | saik0: heh, I am just messin with you. IPsec should work, networking is not really my bag though. |
| 06:31.43 | prohna | a friend tried to talk me through editting something in /etc/X11 earlier and all it did was make me not be able to get into anything again |
| 06:31.46 | maskmon | your right liable you could run the config |
| 06:31.51 | prohna | i ended up having to redo the install |
| 06:32.07 | dings | maskmon: didn't they just do some md5 trick with it so it forces dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 06:32.19 | vineet | prohna: the edid output will tell you what values to use for horizsync and vertrefresh for your monitor |
| 06:32.31 | prohna | he had me get into that config file and delete the parts that said 640 x 480 |
| 06:32.44 | maskmon | u wanna add not delete :) |
| 06:32.49 | vineet | prohna: write down those numbers and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 06:32.49 | prohna | im i in x right now? |
| 06:32.56 | prohna | is that what this gui is called? |
| 06:33.14 | dings | prohna: jepp |
| 06:33.24 | prohna | okay so apt-get read-edid? |
| 06:33.34 | vineet | prohna: apt-get install read-edid |
| 06:33.38 | prohna | okay |
| 06:33.49 | vineet | it may already be there |
| 06:33.57 | maskmon | conky is huring my cpu |
| 06:34.06 | prohna | the friend that i spoke with earlier ended up trying to get me to go with freeBSD |
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| 06:34.59 | maskmon | freeBSD is nice |
| 06:35.09 | kenboo | how do i check what drivers are statically compiled in a stock kernel? |
| 06:35.09 | maskmon | but I love debian |
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| 06:35.46 | nimak | i heard freebsd is fun |
| 06:35.51 | cat | hey how do i check hard drivers errors? |
| 06:36.22 | liable | kenboo: look in /boot/config-2.blah |
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| 06:36.43 | kenboo | uh thanks. |
| 06:36.44 | liable | kenboo: iirc non or not many are in a stock debian kernel.. |
| 06:36.52 | kenboo | ok... |
| 06:37.05 | liable | should do.. |
| 06:37.12 | liable | fuck |
| 06:37.54 | nimak | what do you mean, cat? |
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| 06:38.19 | cat | for example when u turn of the computer inpropertly |
| 06:38.29 | dings | cat fsck |
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| 06:38.49 | dings | cat but you are probably running a jurnaling filesystem |
| 06:38.57 | cat | yeah ext3 |
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| 06:39.27 | jacksparrow | 'hi all |
| 06:39.29 | jacksparrow | sziasztok |
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| 06:39.38 | nimak | my debian does it automatically every 30 boots/when i shutdown improperly |
| 06:39.43 | SerajewelKS | is http.us.debian.org down? |
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| 06:39.59 | cat | yeah so i want to fixed all the errors |
| 06:40.07 | dings | cat: so you shouldn't have to run fsck |
| 06:40.13 | jacksparrow | I'm sorry, Hi all |
| 06:40.21 | cat | dings, what do i run? |
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| 06:40.27 | dings | fsck |
| 06:40.29 | bob2 | ESSENTIAL |
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| 06:40.46 | SerajewelKS | dings, if the filesystem you're checking is mounted, you need to unmount it first |
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| 06:40.49 | vineet | SerajewelKS: huh, can't ping it from here |
| 06:40.51 | kenboo | SerajewelKS, there're 6 servers. i experience one of the six is down quite often |
| 06:41.06 | nimak | cat: it shouldnt be necessary to check for errors when you shutdows improperly |
| 06:41.10 | dings | cat: se SerajewelKS's post |
| 06:41.14 | nimak | ext3 corrects for it |
| 06:41.17 | SerajewelKS | dings, which means if you want to check / then you need to remount it read-only, which usually requires rebooting into single-user mode |
| 06:41.44 | SerajewelKS | :< |
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| 06:41.45 | dings | SerajewelKS: can't you just change init |
| 06:41.57 | SerajewelKS | dings, maybe.. i usually just reboot |
| 06:42.05 | prohna | okay get-edid | parse-edid made the moniter turn off |
| 06:42.52 | nimak | mirrors.kernel.org is always up, and quite fast |
| 06:42.59 | bob2 | php is so utterly terrible |
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| 06:43.07 | Pfated | Yeah, m.k.o is nice. |
| 06:43.13 | prohna | get-edid | parse-edid made the moniter turn off |
| 06:43.16 | TermaKill | does anyone have any tips for getting X to work wit |
| 06:43.22 | nimak | bob2: i like php |
| 06:43.28 | TermaKill | does anyone have any tips for getting X to work with sarge on a g3 imac |
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| 06:43.53 | dings | bob2: agreed |
| 06:44.02 | vineet | prohna: doh! sorry -- I guess the monitor doesn't support edid |
| 06:44.11 | prohna | im on a compaq |
| 06:44.20 | prohna | from what im told thats the cause of most of my problems |
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| 06:44.20 | bob2 | nimak: $foo = 10 + "5 bar"; // = 15 |
| 06:44.24 | vineet | prohna: do you have the monitor's model number? |
| 06:44.32 | dings | bob2: mod-python |
| 06:44.38 | prohna | compaq presario MV700 |
| 06:44.40 | prohna | its not new |
| 06:44.45 | Guerin | !start a language war |
| 06:44.45 | dpkg | Java is faster than LITHP |
| 06:44.57 | bob2 | dings: I wish |
| 06:45.08 | nimak | bob2: ok, i dont mind php that much |
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| 06:45.23 | dings | I just hope the jungle of python web solutions would converge |
| 06:45.28 | nimak | !start a wm war |
| 06:45.29 | dpkg | GNOME sucks! |
| 06:45.36 | bob2 | nimak: hah |
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| 06:45.42 | vineet | prohna: try 30-70 / 50-100 |
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| 06:45.46 | nimak | !start a media player war |
| 06:45.47 | dpkg | mplayer ownz you, and xine sucks ass! |
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| 06:45.59 | nimak | !start an irc channel war |
| 06:46.02 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 06:46.11 | vineet | prohna: (I googled it, came up with this: http://www.wijnberger.com/tiki-cms/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=XonPvr350TvOut&diff=1&PHPSESSID=15aa0baaf5caca11b984460ad8dc6027) |
| 06:46.18 | Guerin | nimak: we get the idea. |
| 06:46.20 | ice_1963 | i like gnome :0) |
| 06:46.24 | dings | !start hippies and peace |
| 06:46.29 | vineet | prohna: so that's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 06:46.36 | vineet | and choose the "advanced" monitor configuration |
| 06:46.36 | saik0 | !start an !start a war war |
| 06:46.39 | liable | !bot abuse |
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| 06:46.40 | dpkg | Leave me alone.. I feel abused and molested. |
| 06:46.40 | Guerin | gnome doesn't like me |
| 06:46.40 | dings | sorry, I'll go sleep |
| 06:46.41 | saik0 | didnt work... |
| 06:46.46 | nvz | got too much crap on my desk anymore :P I just now realized I have this stand that holds a monitor for an ibm thinkpad and dont have a laptop, so I could always put this ps2 under there and get it the hell out of my way |
| 06:46.48 | vineet | it will ask for the horizontal sync and vertical refresh |
| 06:47.08 | vineet | put in 30-70 for horiz and 50-100 for vert |
| 06:47.21 | prohna | what about the resolution |
| 06:47.31 | Pfated | 800x600 shouldn't explode anything. |
| 06:47.49 | prohna | and if it doesnt work? |
| 06:47.52 | vineet | check 1024x768 and everything below |
| 06:47.59 | prohna | last time i screwed with this stuff i couldnt get back into x |
| 06:47.59 | Guerin | !hwinfo |
| 06:48.00 | dpkg | from memory, hwinfo is your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 06:48.05 | Guerin | don't guess |
| 06:48.09 | Guerin | use the toold |
| 06:48.13 | Guerin | tools |
| 06:48.28 | vineet | prohna: if that happens, just install irssi-text and you can rejoin irc from the text console at least |
| 06:49.10 | kingsley__ | What's a good way to print a text file with long lines in landscape mode? |
| 06:49.19 | vineet | prohna: and try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again, and uncheck the highest mode, then try again. You should at least get it working in 640x480 again |
| 06:49.29 | bob2 | kingsley__: a2ps |
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| 06:50.29 | vineet | kingsley__: or enscript |
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| 06:52.15 | prohna | okay i did hwinfo and got the numbers |
| 06:52.28 | kingsley__ | vineet: Thanks. enscript handled the long lines well. |
| 06:53.01 | vineet | prohna: cool, were they different than the ones I found on the web? |
| 06:53.02 | liable | wow, i think i have mold growing under my keys.. |
| 06:53.41 | prohna | 640x480 @60,70,75,85Hz |
| 06:53.59 | prohna | 1280x1024 @60Hz |
| 06:54.04 | prohna | that would be the best right? |
| 06:54.18 | vineet | yeah, that's pretty good |
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| 06:54.32 | ice_1963 | that's bad |
| 06:54.32 | vineet | 60Hz might be too flickery -- depends on your eyes |
| 06:54.35 | prohna | 1024x768 @60,75,85 |
| 06:54.49 | vineet | 1024@85 will probably look much nicer |
| 06:55.11 | prohna | okay ill try that |
| 06:55.54 | prohna | so leave it on vga? |
| 06:56.32 | vineet | prohna: you mean for the video driver? |
| 06:56.35 | prohna | yes |
| 06:56.46 | vineet | prohna: do you know what type of card it is? |
| 06:56.50 | Zugschlus | I'd like to have something (preferably in user space) which allows me to transparently mount a crypto loop device: User types mount /media/crypto, system transparently does the correct losetup and cryptsetup calls, asks user for passphrase, mounts loopback. Does Debian have a beast like that? |
| 06:56.52 | prohna | i think its vga |
| 06:57.01 | liable | no |
| 06:57.13 | vineet | prohna: try lspci |
| 06:57.18 | prohna | i did |
| 06:57.47 | vineet | prohna: it should list the maker of the video card |
| 06:57.51 | prohna | VGA compatible controller is what it says |
| 06:57.55 | liable | prohna: vga compatible.. whats the rest.. |
| 06:58.07 | vineet | prohna: if you can use a more specific driver, you'll get better results |
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| 06:58.18 | vineet | prohna: for example, mine is: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M |
| 06:58.20 | liable | or at least vesa first. |
| 06:58.26 | vineet | prohna: so I use the ATI driver |
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| 06:58.42 | vineet | prohna: yours might say intel, or nvidia, or something else |
| 06:58.51 | prohna | intel corp |
| 06:58.59 | vineet | prohna: so try the i810 driver |
| 06:59.03 | prohna | okay |
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| 06:59.49 | vineet | prohna: if this doesn't work, try setting it to vesa; at least that should work (though maybe not the best video mode) |
| 07:00.11 | prohna | when it says identifier for the video card can i leave it as generic video card or should i be specific there too |
| 07:01.11 | liable | you can leave it.. |
| 07:01.12 | dings | prohna: just a name, no significanse |
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| 07:01.26 | prohna | what about the bus identifier? |
| 07:01.40 | liable | empty |
| 07:01.45 | prohna | kk |
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| 07:02.04 | prohna | and the ammount of memory i want it to use? |
| 07:02.13 | liable | empty again |
| 07:02.22 | prohna | sorry if im being too specific this is like the 6th time today that ive tried to fix this |
| 07:02.45 | vineet | prohna: better too specific than not enough |
| 07:03.19 | vineet | prohna: it's really hard to fix a problem when the other person leaves out important things, and it can be hard for them to know what's important and what's not |
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| 07:03.53 | prohna | understood |
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| 07:04.47 | prohna | so everything under 1024 or just that one? |
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| 07:06.11 | vineet | check the lower ones too |
| 07:06.18 | vineet | it will default to the highest one it can use |
| 07:06.26 | prohna | okay what about the color? |
| 07:06.28 | prohna | 24? |
| 07:06.32 | vineet | and you can use ctrl alt kp+/kp- to switch modes |
| 07:06.35 | prohna | thats the highest option |
| 07:06.39 | vineet | yeah, try that |
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| 07:07.17 | prohna | k it finished |
| 07:07.25 | prohna | should i see the changes now or do i need to reboot? |
| 07:07.43 | vineet | prohna: just log out of X |
| 07:07.52 | vineet | then at the login screen hit ctrl alt backspace |
| 07:08.02 | prohna | and then what |
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| 07:08.13 | vineet | that kills the X server and it should restart itself with the new config |
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| 07:08.19 | prohna | okay ill try |
| 07:08.21 | vineet | (assuming you're using a graphical login) |
| 07:08.27 | prohna | yes |
| 07:08.46 | vineet | if it doesn't work, you can do ctrl alt f1 |
| 07:09.10 | Azardix | anybody talk spanish |
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| 07:09.33 | Guerin | !es |
| 07:09.33 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 07:10.00 | bob2 | I always forget how great "psyence fiction" is |
| 07:10.37 | Azardix | hola |
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| 07:10.54 | prohna | huzzah! |
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| 07:11.07 | prohna | how come when it looks better it all seems to run smoother? |
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| 07:13.19 | Pfated | Generally, it's a good thing. Don't question it. |
| 07:13.37 | prohna | lol |
| 07:13.55 | vineet | prohna: good times |
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| 07:14.28 | prohna | seriously the way it looks now made before look even worse to me than it did at the time |
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| 07:14.49 | Azardix | andate a la chucha |
| 07:14.53 | prohna | k what are my chances of getting soulseek to work? |
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| 07:15.03 | bob2 | high |
| 07:15.10 | Guerin | people still use soulseek? |
| 07:15.15 | prohna | i dont know |
| 07:15.20 | prohna | bittorent a better idea? |
| 07:15.25 | vineet | prohna: did you install nicotine? |
| 07:15.27 | bob2 | it used to be a good place to get live mixes |
| 07:15.27 | prohna | no |
| 07:15.31 | Guerin | aren't they totally different? |
| 07:15.34 | prohna | i havent installed anything but xchat |
| 07:15.41 | Guerin | bittorrent is easy peasy |
| 07:15.48 | vineet | prohna: I did apt-cache search soulseek |
| 07:15.59 | nimak | i like BT |
| 07:15.59 | prohna | anything show up? |
| 07:16.06 | vineet | prohna: try it |
| 07:16.27 | vineet | prohna: I've never used nicotine, but it sounds like what you want to try |
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| 07:16.34 | Guerin | 101982629648 # bytes transferred over bittorrent in the past 24 hours |
| 07:16.38 | prohna | well what do you know |
| 07:16.42 | prohna | this is nifty |
| 07:16.49 | bob2 | Guerin: you have entirely too much bandwidth |
| 07:16.54 | prohna | actually first |
| 07:17.00 | prohna | what about getting xmms to work |
| 07:17.06 | vineet | prohna: you can get a longer descripion with apt-cache show nicotine |
| 07:17.07 | Guerin | bob2: at least i'm putting it to ... use. If not good use. |
| 07:17.14 | vineet | (or dpkg -p nicotine) |
| 07:17.20 | bob2 | hah |
| 07:17.32 | bob2 | need to make for all those years of internet poverty in .nz |
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| 07:17.39 | Guerin | definitely |
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| 07:17.54 | vineet | prohna: do you have alsamixer? |
| 07:17.57 | Guerin | i was on 56k right up until i left, at the start of 2003 |
| 07:18.03 | Guerin | 2003! 56k! wtf? |
| 07:18.12 | vineet | prohna: pull up a terminal and try to run alsamixer |
| 07:18.15 | Pfated | We were about to say that. :) |
| 07:18.20 | vineet | prohna: by default, everything's muted |
| 07:18.22 | Pfated | Guerin: ^ |
| 07:18.29 | liable | Guerin: dont whinge, i only got adsl like 2 months ago! |
| 07:18.36 | vineet | you probably just have to unmute and turn it up |
| 07:18.54 | Guerin | Pfated: at least our government doesn't prosecute us for saying bad things about people. |
| 07:19.07 | Pfated | Eh, #d does it now. |
| 07:19.11 | Pfated | So neener. |
| 07:19.19 | bob2 | zing! |
| 07:19.23 | liable | hehe |
| 07:19.57 | Guerin | Pfated: when BenC arrests me and puts me in the slammer on $10 grand bail for cussin' someone out, then you'll have a case. |
| 07:20.09 | Pfated | Heh. Touche. |
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| 07:20.26 | nvz | benc? |
| 07:20.35 | Guerin | until then ... you don't get to dis on the bandwidth limitations of the free world :) |
| 07:20.52 | prohna | apt-get isnt finding alsamixer |
| 07:21.02 | Pfated | Heh. |
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| 07:21.09 | Guerin | alssa-utils |
| 07:21.12 | Guerin | s/ss/s/ |
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| 07:21.15 | liable | nvz: visit tarzues site. |
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| 07:21.32 | prohna | apt-get install alssa-utils? |
| 07:21.39 | Pfated | alsa-utils. |
| 07:21.45 | prohna | okey dokey |
| 07:21.48 | nvz | I've seen tarzeau's site. you cant even spell tarzeau :P |
| 07:21.53 | Guerin | it is well known that I am an appalling typist |
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| 07:22.07 | prohna | i type at work and im still bad at it sometimes |
| 07:22.11 | nvz | !yinzersmite liable |
| 07:22.12 | liable | !bite nvz |
| 07:22.17 | prohna | i think im really fast at finding backspace though |
| 07:22.25 | prohna | so it still seems like i type fast |
| 07:23.16 | liable | nvz: if you visited it lately, you would have a clue! :P |
| 07:23.33 | prohna | okay install |
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| 07:24.03 | doomster | Hi! |
| 07:24.08 | prohna | alsamixer comes back with function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device |
| 07:24.11 | vineet | well I'm going to sleep now |
| 07:24.19 | liable | is it possible to catch dyslexia? |
| 07:24.37 | nvz | liable: last 100 times I went there it was like a collage of photos its hard to tell whats on there unless you are linked directly to it |
| 07:25.16 | zupole | wazzup w the free-bsd kernel i saw in the new packages section? could it REPLACE the linux kernel in a debian install? |
| 07:25.20 | doomster | I need an advise, what is the easiest way to install udev from testing (which requires Linux 2.6.12) considering that said kernel is not available for testing? |
| 07:25.25 | liable | nvz: hmm, the faq page. |
| 07:25.31 | Guerin | zupole: i suggest you read the documentation for it |
| 07:25.47 | prohna | alsamixer comes back with function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device |
| 07:25.53 | zupole | its only source - i go hunting elsewhere |
| 07:25.56 | liable | nvz: its linked off of that. |
| 07:25.58 | subgv | my GRUB setting timeout is set to 0, what button do I push to get that menu list in startup? |
| 07:26.20 | subgv | I know lilo can get the list by pushing the CTRL and SHIFT |
| 07:26.35 | doomster | subgv, what do the docs say? |
| 07:26.52 | doomster | subgv, assuming there is no way, create a grub bootdisk with different settings. |
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| 07:26.58 | nvz | heh I must have the wrong url, it says "Nothing here, move along" |
| 07:27.13 | Guerin | doomster: it is - linux-image |
| 07:27.33 | nvz | !tarzeau: |
| 07:27.34 | nvz | !tarzeau |
| 07:27.35 | dpkg | i heard tarzeau is http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
| 07:27.41 | nvz | bah liar :P |
| 07:27.59 | doomster | Guerin, thanks. Makes perfect sense now.... |
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| 07:28.29 | nvz | linuks.mine.nu just says "Nothing here, move along" I am not sure if I am remembering incorrectly or what |
| 07:29.01 | prohna | anyone use nicotine? |
| 07:29.01 | liable | nvz: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/GreyCat?action=show&redirect=greycat |
| 07:29.34 | Guerin | prohna: it's quite poisonous in high doses |
| 07:29.35 | liable | yes, going to get some into me now.. :P |
| 07:29.38 | nvz | hmm I guess I was right, he's just being a smart ass :P |
| 07:29.56 | prohna | Guerin, i just installed it but connect is greyed out |
| 07:29.58 | prohna | cant connect |
| 07:29.58 | RoundQube | <-- camel filters |
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| 07:30.19 | Guerin | prohna: i have no idea what is this 'nicotine' of which you speak |
| 07:30.23 | doomster | <-- spam filters |
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| 07:30.27 | prohna | nvm |
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| 07:31.01 | nvz | I dont know that I've ever seen or heard of BenC before |
| 07:31.20 | Guerin | nvz: stfw |
| 07:31.36 | liable | stfw? |
| 07:31.41 | Guerin | !stfw |
| 07:31.42 | dpkg | from memory, stfw is Search The Fucking Web, a modern incarnation of RTFM. <http://google.com/>, <http://google.com/linux>, <http://www.google.com/help/index.html>, <http://groups.google.com/>, <http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/bart.gif>, <http://tldp.org/>. |
| 07:31.48 | Guerin | ... |
| 07:31.49 | liable | oh.. |
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| 07:33.18 | prohna | sweet just got adom and crawl* |
| 07:34.21 | nvz | the debian fable is pretty funny I never read that before |
| 07:34.43 | prohna | whats the best way to untar stuff here? |
| 07:34.59 | prohna | right click and extract? |
| 07:35.02 | eobanb | tar -x? |
| 07:35.03 | liable | with tar? |
| 07:35.18 | prohna | i dont know how to use tar more than likely |
| 07:35.28 | eobanb | tar -x filename |
| 07:35.30 | liable | !tell prohna about tar |
| 07:35.33 | eobanb | er |
| 07:35.35 | eobanb | -xf |
| 07:35.55 | bob2 | nvz: debian fable? |
| 07:36.04 | liable | !fable |
| 07:36.04 | dpkg | [fable] http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
| 07:36.12 | nvz | bob2: yeah its amusing |
| 07:36.18 | bob2 | ah, yeah, greycat wrote it last week |
| 07:36.25 | nvz | heh |
| 07:36.32 | nvz | greycat is hilarious |
| 07:36.41 | liable | well written.. |
| 07:37.16 | nvz | I raised half a dozen parse errors on "Debian began to prosper and to spread its ideas far and wide, and the population of Debianland grew, as populations of the breathing-and-eating kinds of people are wont to do." before ignoring it and moving on |
| 07:37.51 | eobanb | har, allegedly thought |
| 07:37.58 | nvz | the tokens "are wont to do" make no sense to me in that order. in fact 'wont doesnt compute in any form |
| 07:38.28 | liable | picky! |
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| 07:38.36 | Guerin | nvz: that's probably because you were educated in the USA, where they don't teach you proper english. |
| 07:38.37 | deadcat | i am trying to get vga=791 or vga=0x317 in /etc/yaboot.conf, but no luck so far. |
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| 07:38.43 | bob2 | hah |
| 07:39.00 | Guerin | !yinzersmite nvz |
| 07:39.10 | nerdy2 | hey i live in the us and use the word wont |
| 07:39.15 | mwilson | Gods, but that's funny. |
| 07:39.20 | nerdy2 | and people i know understand it |
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| 07:39.37 | nvz | hehe |
| 07:39.39 | bob2 | nvz: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wont |
| 07:39.43 | nerdy2 | nvz's failure is his own [or his lack of a dictionary], not the educational systems |
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| 07:39.49 | Guerin | nerdy2: yeah: "he wont have enough money" |
| 07:39.56 | Pfated | Heh. |
| 07:40.09 | nerdy2 | Guerin, i also use punctuation :) |
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| 07:40.15 | nvz | no, it has a lot to do with the educational system. and that I learned to speak in Texas |
| 07:40.19 | Zap-W | anyone have a 1.4.5 patch for squirrelmail in sarge debian? |
| 07:40.29 | Guerin | nerdy2: omglol, u must b cnadian |
| 07:40.32 | nerdy2 | i learned to speak in texas |
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| 07:41.07 | nvz | then I spent most of my speaking and learning life around dahntahn Picksburgh |
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| 07:41.47 | bob2 | I hear cheesesteaks > learnin' |
| 07:42.01 | mwilson | cheesesteak > * |
| 07:42.08 | eobanb | well it's a nice fable. |
| 07:42.13 | eobanb | if slightly inconsistent :P |
| 07:42.15 | Guerin | i disagree |
| 07:42.26 | eobanb | i mean, opn became freenode long before ubuntu came about |
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| 07:42.29 | Guerin | I say bacon sandwich > cheesesteak |
| 07:42.29 | liable | wtf are cheeseteaks? |
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| 07:42.33 | eobanb | just a small detail, there :) |
| 07:42.35 | Pfated | Baaacon. |
| 07:42.39 | bob2 | eobanb: lots of people ignore the change |
| 07:42.39 | liable | mmmm\ |
| 07:42.53 | bob2 | e.g. |
| 07:42.54 | bob2 | 17:42:44 [OPN] ---| eobanb [n=eoban@iub-vpn-72-19.noc.indiana.edu] |
| 07:42.56 | mwilson | Feh, bacon. |
| 07:43.01 | bob2 | I'm not changin' my irssi config |
| 07:43.09 | DannyB1954 | <Newbie with install question |
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| 07:43.14 | electron_ | Hi |
| 07:43.17 | nvz | yeah I like it. its humorous tone makes it easier to grok whats going on. |
| 07:43.25 | electron_ | II need some help |
| 07:43.33 | mwilson | DannyB1954: And will he get around to asking it, or will it have to be beaten out of him? |
| 07:43.34 | Guerin | DannyB1954: electron_: ask |
| 07:43.37 | prohna | tar isnt working |
| 07:43.46 | eobanb | prohna, what's the file |
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| 07:43.50 | valdyn | !sing sunday |
| 07:43.50 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
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| 07:44.00 | prohna | for some reason the folder the file was in is locked |
| 07:44.06 | mwilson | prohna: Oh, yes, you'd be the only person who's noticed that tar is broken somehow. |
| 07:44.13 | electron_ | What do I have to do on debian to make it share the dialup internet connection? pm me with help please |
| 07:44.13 | mwilson | "locked"? |
| 07:44.23 | liable | !pm |
| 07:44.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, pm is private message, or post meridiem, or prime minister, or perl mongers, or pathetic moron: when you see someone say pm, they're asking if you think that they're a pathetic moron, or something you don't do without asking permission |
| 07:44.25 | bob2 | electron_: install the ipmasq package |
| 07:44.27 | prohna | i tried to delete the folder and i dont have permission |
| 07:44.33 | electron_ | okay |
| 07:44.34 | mwilson | prohna: And...? |
| 07:44.45 | eobanb | wtf does that have to do with tar |
| 07:44.47 | DannyB1954 | I can install and run Knoppix with a gui, but when I install Sarge 3.1 I get an error message that device not found no screens. Any Ideas? |
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| 07:44.49 | electron_ | then what? |
| 07:44.57 | valdyn | !wikifaq prohna Permissions |
| 07:44.58 | dpkg | prohna: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 07:45.01 | electron_ | it should work? |
| 07:45.03 | bob2 | DannyB1954: X is misconfigured; are you using sarge? |
| 07:45.10 | Guerin | electron_: aptitude install ipmasq |
| 07:45.12 | bob2 | electron_: then come back if it doesn't work |
| 07:45.14 | electron_ | I have configured ifconfig |
| 07:45.16 | prohna | http://www.adom.de/adom/download.php3 |
| 07:45.17 | prohna | this |
| 07:45.18 | electron_ | okay |
| 07:45.23 | electron_ | it's downloading now |
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| 07:45.31 | eobanb | it's gzipped. |
| 07:45.36 | eobanb | tar -zxf filename |
| 07:45.58 | prohna | the dpkg bot said xzf |
| 07:46.06 | eobanb | dude |
| 07:46.09 | prohna | where should i download too? |
| 07:46.09 | eobanb | zxf |
| 07:46.09 | DannyB1954 | Yes. I looked at the config files for both Knoppix and Sarge 3.1 and find no differences for the video card and monitor |
| 07:46.10 | eobanb | xzf |
| 07:46.12 | electron_ | hey also, when I try to get on this server using irssi it doesn't work, but bitchx does |
| 07:46.12 | eobanb | same thing |
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| 07:46.16 | valdyn | DannyB1954: '/msg dpkg noscreensfound' |
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| 07:46.21 | bob2 | prohna: your home directory |
| 07:46.22 | electron_ | same thing with dalne |
| 07:46.24 | prohna | kk |
| 07:46.25 | eeyore-- | doesn't matter (xzf), as long as "f" is right next to file name |
| 07:46.42 | eeyore-- | xfz won't work, because tar thinks file name is "z" (it's right next to f) |
| 07:47.01 | DannyB1954 | First it shows <ee> device not found and then no screens |
| 07:47.02 | valdyn | eeyore--: tar xfz works with gnu tar |
| 07:47.03 | Zap-W | does FreeSWAN add overhead to packets in l2tp tunnel? |
| 07:47.04 | nksen | where is the time defined my monitor switches off? |
| 07:47.14 | prohna | adom/adom cannot open file exists |
| 07:47.16 | eeyore-- | valdyn: did you verify? :) |
| 07:47.25 | mwilson | nksen: man xset |
| 07:47.26 | valdyn | eeyore--: sure... |
| 07:47.29 | Flendor | I was a bit surprised to see the fable end like that, I was expecting a happy ending :/ |
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| 07:47.45 | valdyn | eeyore--: tar -xfz does not work though. |
| 07:47.48 | liable | Flendor: and they all lived happliy ever after.. |
| 07:47.57 | Flendor | Thanks, liable :) |
| 07:48.05 | electron_ | okay, the other box running debian also can't access the net |
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| 07:48.22 | electron_ | still don't work |
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| 07:48.53 | bucky | electron_, you need to forward http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway.html and then set up static ip address on your other box |
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| 07:48.58 | Zap-W | Mem: 282 278 4 |
| 07:49.03 | electron_ | eeek |
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| 07:49.11 | electron_ | can you pm me please bucky |
| 07:49.18 | electron_ | I'll need a bit more help |
| 07:49.25 | bucky | electron_, example #1 |
| 07:49.32 | bucky | http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway.html |
| 07:49.34 | valdyn | electron_: apt-get install firestarters <- colorful clicky gui to get internet connection sharing |
| 07:49.40 | valdyn | electron_: apt-get install firestarter <- colorful clicky gui to get internet connection sharing |
| 07:49.40 | electron_ | cool |
| 07:49.50 | eeyore-- | did you guys try "initng"? it drastically cut my boot time from 1:41 down to :16 (not counting gdm login) |
| 07:49.52 | liable | electron_: or shorewall, theres a good walk through.. |
| 07:50.06 | eobanb | 1:41 to 16 seconds? |
| 07:50.06 | eobanb | wow. |
| 07:50.09 | valdyn | eeyore--: maybe because it just doesnt doesnt most of your services? |
| 07:50.15 | bob2 | eeyore--: wow |
| 07:50.19 | valdyn | eeyore--: maybe because it just doesnt start most of your services? |
| 07:50.25 | liable | electron_: 1:41? |
| 07:50.26 | electron_ | wow, 8mb download for firestarter |
| 07:50.27 | eeyore-- | valdyn: it runs the services i want it to run, and yes it does |
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| 07:50.37 | eeyore-- | valdyn: it just starts them in parallel where it can |
| 07:50.51 | eeyore-- | valdyn: whereas the classical init starts things in serial |
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| 07:50.57 | Guerin | eeyore--: that's pretty flash |
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| 07:51.02 | prohna | so how do i delete that folder if i dont have permission? |
| 07:51.02 | valdyn | eeyore--: yea , i looked at it, but i was to lazy to set up the 'missing' services and purged it again. |
| 07:51.04 | eeyore-- | do a bootchart of your boot and you'll see it :) |
| 07:51.06 | Guerin | eeyore--: what hardware? |
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| 07:51.23 | eeyore-- | Guerin: pentium iii 600, laptop |
| 07:51.30 | bob2 | eeyore--: does it work with debian's regular init scripts? |
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| 07:51.50 | eeyore-- | bob2: no, it supply its own scripts :) |
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| 07:51.53 | Guerin | eeyore--: nice. |
| 07:51.54 | valdyn | bob2: no, you have to write your own for all services that have no initscript included |
| 07:51.55 | eeyore-- | bob2: you'll probably hate that |
| 07:52.04 | bob2 | eep |
| 07:52.15 | RoundQube | i have my user 'qube' in the cdrom group but when trying to burn cds with k3b, i get i/o error, not more verbose message. Anyone wanna take a shot? it use to work |
| 07:52.18 | RoundQube | i can't burn cds or dvds |
| 07:52.23 | prohna | so how do i delete that folder if i dont have permission? |
| 07:52.24 | valdyn | bob2: which is most services, it doesnt include that many |
| 07:52.34 | bob2 | I'll just stick with suspend, I guess |
| 07:52.38 | eeyore-- | anyhow, even if you're not interested in initng, do check out "bootchart" |
| 07:52.38 | valdyn | prohna: did you read the faq? |
| 07:52.41 | bob2 | it takes ~5s to come out of acpi sleep |
| 07:52.46 | liable | prohna: you cant. |
| 07:52.48 | prohna | it mostly talked about binaries and what not |
| 07:52.49 | prohna | confusing |
| 07:52.55 | eeyore-- | you'll be interested to know what goes on in your boot :) |
| 07:52.56 | prohna | well why dont i have permission? |
| 07:52.59 | prohna | i just made the folder |
| 07:53.07 | liable | bob2: power drain in sleep? |
| 07:53.07 | eeyore-- | in one nice, easy to see single-page chart |
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| 07:53.34 | nksen | mwilson: ok. and how do I set it to default ot keep the setting after restart? |
| 07:53.44 | bob2 | liable: lasts a few days |
| 07:53.58 | bob2 | prohna: "that folder" = ? |
| 07:54.00 | liable | bob2: mine sucks a fair bit, its one of the ones that doesnt like sleep.. :( |
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| 07:54.08 | prohna | i made a folder for the game i was gonna install |
| 07:54.12 | bob2 | liable: ah, dang :( |
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| 07:54.28 | bob2 | liable: suspend to disk seems to work just about everywhere, but takes as long as a normal boot for me |
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| 07:54.37 | prohna | now i need to get rid of said folder and contents |
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| 07:54.41 | liable | bob2: yep, here too. |
| 07:54.45 | eeyore-- | mine likes sleep almost 100% ... sometimes the video is off and i can't get it back on :-p |
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| 07:55.06 | eeyore-- | when the lid is closed for "too long" then the video doesn't come back on again after lid open |
| 07:55.10 | bob2 | prohna: and the location is... |
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| 07:55.36 | quik | hey folks |
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| 07:55.47 | eeyore-- | an hour or two seems fine, overnight and there's a good chance it won't come back on again (video), but the computer is alive |
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| 07:55.50 | SimonRaven | in a yet undisclosed location to be revealed at a later time |
| 07:55.52 | prohna | /home/prohna |
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| 07:55.53 | nksen | where do I set the time my monitor goes blank and finally switches of? xset seems just be able to define it for the actual x-session |
| 07:55.55 | Danar | i can't eject my cd |
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| 07:56.07 | Danar | it won't unmount it. says it's in use |
| 07:56.13 | Danar | lsof turns up nothing |
| 07:56.15 | nksen | Danar: lsof /dev/cdrom |
| 07:56.17 | quik | I just got debian running kde, how do I edit the X config to allow display resolutions above 800*600? |
| 07:56.25 | bob2 | prohna: so rm -r /home/prohna/whatever/ |
| 07:56.33 | nksen | quik: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 07:56.39 | mwilson | quik: With the text editor of your choice. |
| 07:56.41 | Danar | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev |
| 07:56.41 | Danar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:56.58 | prohna | bob2, thank you |
| 07:57.23 | bob2 | yay udev |
| 07:57.26 | valdyn | nksen: probably your 'xscreensaver-command -prefs' or from your debian menu -> screen -> ... |
| 07:57.34 | mastx | hello friends/msg ChanServ |
| 07:57.34 | Danar | and with sudo there's no output |
| 07:57.42 | liable | Danar: tried "eject"? |
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| 07:57.51 | Danar | liable: many times |
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| 07:58.00 | mastx | problem with boot! Do you help me? |
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| 07:58.09 | Guerin | mastx: do you ask a question? |
| 07:58.18 | eobanb | what's the issue |
| 07:58.26 | mastx | yes! |
| 07:58.29 | electron_ | lol |
| 07:58.34 | EdLin | !lol |
| 07:58.34 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 07:58.34 | eobanb | o.....k. |
| 07:58.36 | liable | Danar: lsof /dev/hdc? |
| 07:58.40 | bob2 | Danar: sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom |
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| 07:59.08 | quik | I just got debian running kde, how do I edit the X config to allow display resolutions above 800*600? |
| 07:59.14 | electron_ | Danar: umount /dev/cdrom |
| 07:59.16 | prohna | okay i did apt-get install crawl |
| 07:59.17 | electron_ | that works |
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| 07:59.19 | valdyn | Danar: you can ignore that warning. |
| 07:59.20 | prohna | and it got it and installed it |
| 07:59.26 | prohna | shouldnt "crawl" run it? |
| 07:59.27 | electron_ | and to mount mount /dev/cdrom |
| 07:59.28 | liable | !factinfo lol |
| 07:59.28 | dpkg | lol -- last modified 5d 8h 9m 51s ago by dondelelcaro!n=don@archimedes.ucr.edu; it has been requested 9 times, last by EdLin, 54s ago; it has been locked by dondelelcaro. |
| 07:59.31 | mwilson | quik: You've been told twice. Will you actually listen if you're answered a third time? |
| 07:59.31 | EdLin | looks like jim re-wrote !lol again |
| 07:59.34 | SimonRaven | !drxx quik |
| 07:59.35 | dpkg | quik: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:59.37 | nksen | mwilson: you shouldn't edit the x-file with a text-editor |
| 07:59.40 | EdLin | hmm, not jim |
| 07:59.42 | electron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:59.51 | mwilson | nksen: Oh, really. And why might that be? |
| 07:59.51 | Danar | now i get: eject |
| 07:59.51 | Danar | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
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| 08:00.05 | nksen | mwilson: because dpkg will overwrite those settings |
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| 08:00.17 | SimonRaven | nksen: wrong person |
| 08:00.27 | nksen | SimonRaven: me? |
| 08:00.27 | mwilson | nksen: Except that it won't, of course. |
| 08:00.35 | electron_ | Danar: did you type umount /dev/cdrom ? |
| 08:00.38 | SimonRaven | no the other dude with the same nick... |
| 08:00.39 | Guerin | nksen: no, the point is that dpkg WON'T overwrite those settings. |
| 08:00.44 | valdyn | nksen: wrong, dpkg-reconfigure does not ever overwrite custom configuration. |
| 08:00.47 | Danar | electron_: more than once |
| 08:00.48 | nksen | oh i see simon ;) |
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| 08:01.02 | EdLin | nksen: read the top of the frigging control file and it'll mention unless you do something it keeps your file |
| 08:01.09 | electron_ | what version of debian are you running? |
| 08:01.11 | Danar | 'sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom' got it unmounted, but now eject doesn't work |
| 08:01.16 | electron_ | ./exec -o uname -a |
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| 08:01.29 | quik | can I be seen? |
| 08:01.33 | liable | fat fingers.. |
| 08:01.34 | electron_ | I take it it's an old version |
| 08:01.38 | liable | quik: no |
| 08:01.47 | mwilson | quik: You've been given an answer three times now. |
| 08:01.55 | SimonRaven | you have to specifically state that your config be moved aside and the maintainer's version be replaced... you know it helps to actually read what's on your screen durin installation |
| 08:01.59 | mwilson | quik: You really need to try paying attention. |
| 08:02.00 | nksen | so now anyone can help me out with setting the time my monitor goes blank and finally switches off? |
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| 08:02.14 | SimonRaven | er, maintainer's version be put in place, sorry |
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| 08:02.23 | valdyn | nksen: did you look at xscreensaver preferences? |
| 08:02.26 | valdyn | !dpms |
| 08:02.27 | dpkg | hmm... dpms is know as VESA Power Saving or Energy Star. In X4.0.X add Option "DPMS" "on" to config monitor setting. After that it can be configured by using 'xset dpms <standby-sec> <suspend-sec> <off-sec>' or config file options (ServerFlag section). |
| 08:02.27 | quik | hello? |
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| 08:02.31 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 08:02.33 | lakcaj | nksen, xscreensaver-demo? |
| 08:02.33 | SimonRaven | quik: olleh |
| 08:02.34 | eobanb | quik, what is it |
| 08:02.43 | mwilson | You're assuming that he's using xscreensaver. |
| 08:02.44 | pingouin | nksen: xset -h no ? |
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| 08:02.48 | liable | quik: ffs, you *can* be seen.. |
| 08:02.52 | electron_ | mwilson, how do this people expect to ever learn *nix if they do not have the patience or time to pay attention and apply things.. |
| 08:02.56 | nksen | valdyn: do those settings take effect when I restart? |
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| 08:03.06 | SimonRaven | quik: you were told 4 times what to do about it. set your irc client to NOT have lack on black and maybe you can see what we say |
| 08:03.17 | mwilson | electron_: They don't expect to learn, of course. They're not interested in learning. |
| 08:03.22 | valdyn | nksen: assuming you use the xscreensaver then immediately and after a restart too. |
| 08:03.28 | electron_ | haha |
| 08:03.43 | electron_ | good answer. |
| 08:03.43 | Alex_BO | HELLO! Is there somebody who can help me to install irda connection?I have an Acer Aspire |
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| 08:03.50 | mwilson | electron_: Apparently you think I'm joking. |
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| 08:04.03 | electron_ | The only want it to work like windows then they will never bother learning anything important. |
| 08:04.08 | Danar | eject -v runs through different types of eject commands, all fail. last error is 'eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument' |
| 08:04.10 | liable | !tell Alex_BO about laptop |
| 08:04.12 | nksen | valdyn: well actually I don't. i did not install any special packages. I just installed x-window-system-core, but the monitor goes blank though |
| 08:04.13 | eobanb | alex_bo, why are you asking in both #debian and #ubuntu |
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| 08:04.30 | pingouin | xset +dpms sorry |
| 08:04.35 | electron_ | sif use X |
| 08:04.37 | pingouin | man xset to control time |
| 08:04.39 | bob2 | Alex_BO: questions about Ubuntu are not appropriate here |
| 08:04.41 | EdLin | !tell Alex_BO about ubuntu |
| 08:04.46 | Danar | anyone know why eject wouldn't work? |
| 08:04.49 | electron_ | X has too many expolits and bugs |
| 08:04.51 | Alex_BO | sorrrrrrrrry |
| 08:05.00 | valdyn | nksen: so use xset.. nothing wrong with putting it in your x session script |
| 08:05.11 | nksen | valdyn: oh I see. thx! |
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| 08:05.19 | Guerin | electron_: are you quite finished with the crack pipe, there? |
| 08:05.21 | SimonRaven | electron_: right. so all those security updates are for naught? |
| 08:05.22 | liable | Danar: its unmounted now/ |
| 08:05.28 | Danar | liable: yes |
| 08:05.30 | pingouin | xset dpms force off |
| 08:05.34 | liable | grr damn shift key |
| 08:05.41 | liable | Danar: tried as root? |
| 08:05.45 | Danar | bob2's suggestion worked for that |
| 08:05.46 | prohna | do i have to do something to be able to run executables? |
| 08:05.47 | SimonRaven | sheesh. someone learns a term without knowing what it means.... |
| 08:05.47 | Danar | liable: many times |
| 08:05.52 | liable | Danar: you a member of cdrom? |
| 08:05.55 | valdyn | nksen: if you use gnome / kde ( probably xfce ) or whatever "desktop environment" you're probably better off using their method |
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| 08:05.58 | bob2 | Danar: yeah, I dunno why that works, but it seems to |
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| 08:06.04 | electron_ | SimonRaven, it's still valnurable |
| 08:06.11 | bob2 | prohna: you need to use the right path to them |
| 08:06.13 | electron_ | Guerin, I'm no crack whore. |
| 08:06.14 | Danar | bob2: but it still won't eject :( |
| 08:06.17 | bob2 | prohna: and they need to be marked executable |
| 08:06.22 | bob2 | Danar: even with eject? |
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| 08:06.27 | Danar | bob2: right |
| 08:06.28 | Guerin | electron_: everything is vulnerable. |
| 08:06.32 | prohna | i found the folder the game is in |
| 08:06.36 | electron_ | There is a remote buffer overflow found |
| 08:06.48 | SimonRaven | electron_: dude. not for the reasons you think. |
| 08:06.50 | prohna | but when i double click it it asks me what program i want to run the executabl |
| 08:06.53 | Guerin | electron_: proof? |
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| 08:07.07 | Guerin | electron_: few things have a usefulness:vulnerability ratio as high as X does |
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| 08:07.18 | nksen | valdyn: hm. dunnow if enlightenment has an own one |
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| 08:07.28 | bob2 | prohna: did you mark it as executable? |
| 08:07.30 | electron_ | A friend of mine descovered it. |
| 08:07.32 | bob2 | prohna: chmode a+x ./blah |
| 08:07.38 | Danar | bob2: any suggestions? |
| 08:07.38 | prohna | i did apt-get install for it |
| 08:07.44 | electron_ | I'll get him to post the finding on a url |
| 08:07.45 | valdyn | nksen: probably not, its just a window manager |
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| 08:07.49 | electron_ | and link yo to it later. |
| 08:08.16 | liable | Danar: paperclip! |
| 08:08.24 | electron_ | Anyone here from Sydney going to Ruxcon? |
| 08:08.26 | Danar | liable: shouldn't have to... :/ |
| 08:08.36 | bob2 | Danar: does eject say anything? |
| 08:08.38 | bob2 | haha ruxcon |
| 08:08.43 | eeyore-- | electron_: you must be the only person who doesn't use X because it "has vulnerabilities" |
| 08:08.43 | Danar | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
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| 08:08.53 | Azardix | irc.cl |
| 08:08.56 | eeyore-- | electron_: news flash --- many things do |
| 08:08.57 | SimonRaven | electron_: and don't go making unfounded claims of remote buffer overflows or what not without proof. and why haven't you posted it to various security sites including debian, if this is so? instead of shooting off your mouth in a fricking irc channel? |
| 08:09.13 | SimonRaven | "show me the money" |
| 08:09.20 | eeyore-- | SimonRaven: (because it sounds cool, what else?) |
| 08:09.23 | liable | $$$$$ |
| 08:09.30 | electron_ | lmao |
| 08:09.38 | SimonRaven | eeyore--: hehe |
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| 08:09.46 | electron_ | I don't play well with others. |
| 08:09.53 | quik | sorry my irc client/internet was going crazy for a minute there |
| 08:10.05 | SimonRaven | i don't suffer fools for very long either |
| 08:10.38 | Danar | aha, got it |
| 08:10.40 | Guerin | electron_: your friend just discovered a buffer overflow in ... what exactly? |
| 08:10.44 | Guerin | HAHA |
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| 08:10.47 | Guerin | riight |
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| 08:11.26 | SimonRaven | *plonk* |
| 08:11.27 | Danar | bob2: tried eject -s and got 'operation not permitted' so used 'sudo eject -s' and it worked :) |
| 08:11.31 | eeyore-- | side note ... one time it took me 45 minutes (and i still didn't spot it) to spot a simple bug, sizeof(foo)-1 vs sizeof(foo-1) |
| 08:11.45 | eeyore-- | it took another pair of eyes to spot that one |
| 08:11.58 | valdyn | Danar: man eject, it will tell you which devices it tried in what order. |
| 08:12.21 | Danar | valdyn: yeah, i tried with -v and it went through all of them... didn't work though |
| 08:12.22 | baboo | Danar: is your user in the cdrom group ? |
| 08:12.25 | liable | Danar: it failed as root, but sudo worked? |
| 08:12.48 | Danar | liable: no, i used sudo |
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| 08:12.56 | Danar | the thing that worked was using -s |
| 08:13.00 | dna | how do I install xml from apt-get install ? |
| 08:13.02 | liable | um. |
| 08:13.05 | dna | what am I looking for specfically |
| 08:13.13 | Danar | even though it tried the scsi one with -v |
| 08:13.16 | valdyn | dna: what the hell would package called 'xml' do? |
| 08:13.21 | Guerin | dna: that's a good question. You can't install xml. |
| 08:13.29 | Guerin | !wayttd dna |
| 08:13.30 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, dna? |
| 08:13.44 | Danar | hrm, but now eject -v does work... |
| 08:13.47 | Danar | i dunno what changed |
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| 08:14.36 | dna | I am tyring to do ./configure for ices |
| 08:14.37 | dna | and ti says |
| 08:14.38 | Danar | oh well. thx for the help |
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| 08:14.45 | dna | configure: error: XML configuration could not be found |
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| 08:14.55 | Guerin | !wayc dna |
| 08:14.56 | dpkg | dna: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 08:15.05 | dna | ices is not for apt-get |
| 08:15.20 | SimonRaven | eeyore--: sure, but making serious claims about stuff without backing them up is spreading fud, not knowledge. i'm tired of assholes lying to others to making themselves feel better, or to make themselves look better, or both, or to gain power over others, or what-the-fuck-ever reason |
| 08:15.28 | valdyn | dna: ices2 - Ogg Vorbis streaming source for Icecast 2 |
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| 08:15.34 | valdyn | !info ices2 |
| 08:15.37 | dpkg | ices2: (Ogg Vorbis streaming source for Icecast 2), section sound, is optional. Version: 2.0.1-4 (sid), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 196 kB |
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| 08:15.50 | valdyn | !info ices2 sarge |
| 08:15.51 | dna | whoa that was simple |
| 08:15.53 | dpkg | ices2: (Ogg Vorbis streaming source for Icecast 2), section sound, is optional. Version: 2.0.1-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 196 kB |
| 08:15.54 | dna | thank you |
| 08:16.00 | Guerin | dna: you have a couple of options: 1) figure out which library the configure script wants and install it, 2) install and use auto-apt and have it figure same out for you |
| 08:16.12 | Guerin | !valdyn++ |
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| 08:16.31 | dna | I did apt-get install ices2 |
| 08:16.33 | liable | !nickometer e13c7r0n |
| 08:16.33 | dpkg | 'e13c7r0n' is 99.9263% lame, liable |
| 08:16.37 | dna | and blam that did it good |
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| 08:17.19 | TermaKill | any g3 imac users in here? |
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| 08:17.33 | eobanb | termakill, whats the problem |
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| 08:17.50 | jcohen85 | i shipped my debian system and now it's |
| 08:17.51 | TermaKill | im trying to get the xserver to work |
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| 08:18.04 | e13c7r0n | Electron is my name is use, but is take on here, so this is the only other alternative, don't give me shit mate. |
| 08:18.07 | cld | hello:) do You know some application like gnome-open or kfmclient, but not for kde and gnome, something independent... ? |
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| 08:18.27 | eobanb | the only other alternative? haha |
| 08:18.39 | e13c7r0n | stfu |
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| 08:19.14 | jcohen85 | my system isn't starting up properly. it stops at "lp0: using paraport0: interupt-driven" |
| 08:19.27 | jcohen85 | what does this error mean |
| 08:19.49 | eobanb | cld, dont gnome-open and kfmclient do different things |
| 08:20.16 | liable | jcohen85: try unplugging it? |
| 08:20.38 | eobanb | jcohen85, you have a printer? |
| 08:20.40 | jcohen85 | unplugging what? i've plugged in a keyboard, a monitor and an ethernet cable |
| 08:20.52 | liable | printer? |
| 08:20.54 | jcohen85 | eobanb, not hooked up to this machine |
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| 08:21.28 | liable | jcohen85: nothing in the parallel port? |
| 08:21.46 | jcohen85 | no |
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| 08:22.11 | eobanb | id try disabling the parallel port in bios, if this is x86 |
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| 08:22.23 | cld | eobanb: i need some app to handle downloaded files in browser, do you know some ? |
| 08:22.26 | jcohen85 | this just started happening |
| 08:22.30 | jcohen85 | it was fine before i shipped it |
| 08:22.37 | eobanb | 'handle downloaded files'? |
| 08:22.40 | eobanb | can you be more specific |
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| 08:23.48 | jcohen85 | eobanb, ok, i disabled it |
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| 08:23.52 | eobanb | and? |
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| 08:24.20 | cld | eobanb: hmm.. app that direct file with some extension to open with specific application for example, wmv with xine, when i click on wmv file |
| 08:24.26 | Oliver123 | somebody instaled lm_sensors in debian ? I tried to compile but it say that it need some version. |
| 08:24.45 | eobanb | oliver123, use apt? |
| 08:24.56 | Guerin | !lm_sensors |
| 08:24.56 | dpkg | well, lm_sensors is a hardware health monitoring package that performs CPU temperature, fan speed monitoring, etc. via kernel modules. apt-get install lm-sensors. For kernel 2.4 see the package description or lm-sensors-source. http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/ |
| 08:25.01 | Oliver123 | no, source code from lm_sensors site |
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| 08:25.07 | eobanb | oliver123, dont do that. |
| 08:25.09 | valdyn | Oliver123: uname -r |
| 08:25.16 | Guerin | use the debian-packaged version |
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| 08:25.41 | Oliver123 | I am totaly new in debian , how to usee that apt or what else |
| 08:25.48 | eobanb | ugh.. |
| 08:25.58 | eobanb | !lm_sensors |
| 08:25.58 | dpkg | somebody said lm_sensors was a hardware health monitoring package that performs CPU temperature, fan speed monitoring, etc. via kernel modules. apt-get install lm-sensors. For kernel 2.4 see the package description or lm-sensors-source. http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/ |
| 08:25.59 | jcohen85 | eobanb, now it stops at "lp0: driver loaded but no device found" |
| 08:26.08 | jcohen85 | *devices |
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| 08:27.09 | azeem | Oliver123: synaptic or maybe aptitude are nice apt frontends |
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| 08:27.50 | Pfated | Synaptic is more... intuitive. |
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| 08:28.14 | Oliver123 | azeem . do I put lm_sensors on hard drive with aptitude and now what ? |
| 08:28.15 | liable | hmm. |
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| 08:28.26 | eobanb | oliver123, no |
| 08:28.31 | eobanb | open a term |
| 08:28.32 | eobanb | and type |
| 08:28.36 | eobanb | apt-get install lm_sensors |
| 08:28.43 | eobanb | er |
| 08:28.46 | eobanb | apt-get install lm-sensors |
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| 08:29.12 | Oliver123 | yes I done that and it say : lm-sensors is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 08:29.19 | Dewi | Oliver123: so run it |
| 08:29.22 | eobanb | well then you already have it |
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| 08:29.28 | jcohen85 | eobanb, any ideas? it |
| 08:29.30 | Oliver123 | how to use it ?? |
| 08:29.33 | Dewi | Oliver123: by typing its name or something |
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| 08:29.37 | theD3viL | Anyone nows how to change to iso9885-2 in xmms?? |
| 08:29.37 | nksen | which file manager do you advice? |
| 08:29.44 | Dewi | Oliver123: or try "man lm_sensors" to read a manual |
| 08:29.46 | jcohen85 | eobanb, it completely stops the boot process- and i've already disabled the parallel port |
| 08:29.50 | Dewi | Oliver123: if you don't know how to use it |
| 08:29.54 | liable | nksen: mc is ok. |
| 08:29.58 | EdLin | nksen: /bin/bash |
| 08:30.10 | nksen | liable: nah. more what graphical file manager do you use |
| 08:30.11 | azeem | nksen: nautilus |
| 08:30.22 | kenboo | where can i ask about NFS ROOT? |
| 08:30.25 | Oliver123 | but I am not sure that lm_sensors is compiled for kernel or something |
| 08:30.26 | eobanb | jcohen85: i really dont know. all i can think of is loading a different kernel from your bootloader, otherwise re-install |
| 08:30.31 | Guerin | kenboo: what's to ask? |
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| 08:30.50 | Guerin | kenboo: there are howtos on tldp.org; a lot depends on your hardware. |
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| 08:31.01 | eobanb | i'm glad the latest gnome goes back to non-spatial by default. |
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| 08:31.20 | azeem | eobanb: ugh, that's how Ubuntu molested it |
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| 08:31.34 | Guerin | nksen: gentoo |
| 08:31.43 | Guerin | nksen: it's not shiny, but it IS functional |
| 08:31.51 | Guerin | unlike the distro of the same name |
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| 08:32.19 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: i don't think the lp thing is stopping your boot ... it might be what came after it (but no output was displayed on the screen) --- just a guess |
| 08:32.19 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: but just in case it is, why don't you boot with kernel parameter, "init=/bin/bash", then go edit out wherever you have set to load lp module |
| 08:32.22 | Guerin | azeem: you like thre spatial nautilus? |
| 08:32.33 | Dewi | Oliver123: look, what does it say if you type lm_sensors at a terminal prompt? |
| 08:32.39 | eobanb | i dont know *anyone* that likes spatial nautilus. |
| 08:32.43 | Dewi | Oliver123: (don't paste it if it's hugely spammy) |
| 08:32.57 | valdyn | the command is 'sensors' actually |
| 08:33.03 | Guerin | yeah |
| 08:33.14 | azeem | Guerin: it makes sense, IMO |
| 08:33.18 | eobanb | and if you dont like bloated file managers, nksen, there's always mc :) |
| 08:33.19 | nvz | the only thing I like about it is remembering the settings on each dir but I much prefer the browser mode |
| 08:33.22 | Guerin | Dewi: ideally you wouldn't guess about things you don't know. |
| 08:33.24 | eeyore-- | Guerin: gentoo has a file manager? |
| 08:33.27 | Dewi | Guerin: sorry |
| 08:33.34 | Guerin | eeyore--: gentoo IS a filemanager. |
| 08:33.35 | eobanb | eeyore, stfu |
| 08:33.38 | Dewi | Guerin: just trying to nudge in the right direction |
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| 08:33.48 | Guerin | eeyore--: just the same name, no relation. |
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| 08:33.52 | valdyn | Oliver123: which kernel are you using? |
| 08:33.54 | Guerin | eobanb: ...? |
| 08:33.56 | kenboo | Guerin, i installed initrd-netboot-tools package, and fixed a minor bug in /etc/mkinitrd/scripts/netboot. then run mkinitrd -o initrd.img. the resulting initrd.img with stock kernel actually boots fine. but at the point of nfs root mounting it gets RPC: failed to contact portmap error. |
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| 08:34.08 | eeyore-- | Guerin: i don't get it |
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| 08:34.11 | liable | eobanb: um, carefull. |
| 08:34.16 | nvz | !info gentoo |
| 08:34.19 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (sid), Packaged size: 741 kB, Installed size: 2356 kB |
| 08:34.21 | azeem | eobanb: apt-cache show gentoo |
| 08:34.25 | eeyore-- | eobanb: eh? |
| 08:34.26 | Guerin | kenboo: do the troubleshooting section of the tldp.org nfs howto. |
| 08:34.29 | jcohen85 | eye69, any idea what would cause an error like this? it was fine before and i haven't changed anything inside the machine |
| 08:34.32 | Guerin | !info gentoo |
| 08:34.35 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (sid), Packaged size: 741 kB, Installed size: 2356 kB |
| 08:34.38 | henke | kenboo, do you have nfs-common installed? |
| 08:34.40 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, any idea what would cause an error like this? it was fine before and i haven't changed anything inside the machine |
| 08:34.40 | jcohen85 | Guerin !info gentoo |
| 08:34.41 | eeyore-- | eobanb: what's your problem, dude? |
| 08:34.43 | azeem | s/eobanb/eeyore--/ |
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| 08:34.51 | eobanb | azeem: :) |
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| 08:35.01 | kenboo | Guerin, ok. thank you. |
| 08:35.01 | Guerin | man |
| 08:35.14 | nvz | What manual page do you want? |
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| 08:35.21 | eeyore-- | jcohen9: well, could be stuff falls off of your motherboard :) it happened to me |
| 08:35.27 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: ^^^ |
| 08:35.44 | kenboo | henke, yes. the problem is that the portmap is not runnig at the client side |
| 08:35.56 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: so if you actually have a defective board (say, a crack or something) then you might wanna work around it (don't load the driver, then) |
| 08:36.16 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, ok, thanks |
| 08:36.40 | eeyore-- | eobanb: would you mind telling me why you told me to stfu? |
| 08:36.45 | henke | kenboo, nfs-common should install portmap for you. |
| 08:36.45 | EdLin | nksen: seriously, if I were into such things, GWorkspace is nice. |
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| 08:37.21 | Guerin | henke: whether it's running or not is another matter |
| 08:37.51 | henke | Guerin, that should be taken care of by the startup scripts, should it not? |
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| 08:38.20 | eobanb | eeyore-- nm, i just thought you were talking about gentoo linux |
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| 08:39.23 | Guerin | henke: should be, yeah. |
| 08:39.54 | \usr\i386 | Hello, I am trying to use this debian box as a gateway to share the internet, but this box cannot ping my other box and vice vercer. |
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| 08:40.32 | Guerin | \usr\i386: 1) change your nick to make it easier to type 2) what OS is on your other box? |
| 08:40.32 | \usr\i386 | Then I was doing it the otherway, I had the modem on the windows box using winproxy and that worked fine. |
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| 08:40.49 | \usr\i386 | haha |
| 08:40.55 | \usr\i386 | You don't like my name? |
| 08:41.03 | marculix | \usr\i386: change your nick from backslash to slash :-) |
| 08:41.05 | Guerin | !leading punctuation |
| 08:41.05 | dpkg | if your nick begins with leading punctuation, nobody is going to want to help you, because typing your nick is a HUGE FUCKING PAIN IN THE ASS, even with tab completion |
| 08:41.14 | Guerin | cheers :) |
| 08:41.23 | eeyore-- | usr: test |
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| 08:41.31 | riv3t | Okay |
| 08:41.32 | eeyore-- | yeah, ok. there goes one. |
| 08:41.33 | riv3t | so |
| 08:41.35 | marculix | riv3t: better |
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| 08:41.50 | Guerin | riv3t: so windows on the client. Is either box firewalled? |
| 08:41.53 | riv3t | This is debian, the other debian too and I have windows on the other partition |
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| 08:42.08 | riv3t | This is, using firestarter |
| 08:42.10 | Guerin | riv3t: ok. Are they both on the same subnet? |
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| 08:42.12 | eobanb | they are behind a NAT device? |
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| 08:42.21 | eeyore-- | RiverRat: define the machines involved. "this box" doesn't tell us much about which box you're talking about. |
| 08:42.28 | eeyore-- | riv3t: ^^^ |
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| 08:43.00 | riv3t | This box is the gateway, debian, I have done apt-get nat, but not set it up, I do not know how |
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| 08:43.12 | eobanb | riv3t, no, dont do that |
| 08:43.12 | eobanb | gahh |
| 08:43.16 | riv3t | and the other box has debian, but they both cannot ping each other |
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| 08:43.30 | eobanb | can you maybe explain your basic network setup, here |
| 08:43.34 | riv3t | So need to remove nat? |
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| 08:43.51 | riv3t | the gateway was a dialup modem |
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| 08:43.58 | riv3t | then goes to a 10mbit hub |
| 08:43.59 | rigel | is there some way i can back up this fat32 hd under debian easily? |
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| 08:44.09 | rigel | using, say, dd and k3d? |
| 08:44.11 | theD3viL | Why BMP use ALSA 0.9.7, XMMS ALSA 1.2.10? |
| 08:44.14 | eobanb | the modem goes right to a hub? |
| 08:44.17 | rigel | <--noob |
| 08:44.18 | eeyore-- | rigel: sure, mount it, tar it. or, dd and compress |
| 08:44.19 | riv3t | and the client is connected to the hub |
| 08:44.27 | Guerin | riv3t: dd or tar for just the files |
| 08:44.28 | riv3t | The modem is connected to this pc |
| 08:44.37 | riv3t | and I want to share the connection to my other pc |
| 08:44.39 | eobanb | er, okay |
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| 08:44.43 | riv3t | which is on the hub |
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| 08:44.54 | eobanb | so if you do an ifconfig what is the IP address of each box |
| 08:44.57 | rigel | eeyore-- please elucidate or point me to a howto. my google-fu is inferior. |
| 08:45.06 | riv3t | 192.168.0.1 for this |
| 08:45.07 | eeyore-- | rigel: dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=512 | gzip > hda1-<start-cylinder>-<end-cylinder>-<block-count>.dd.gz |
| 08:45.09 | riv3t | and .2 for the other |
| 08:45.12 | Guerin | riv3t: what precisely happens when you try to ping from one to the other? |
| 08:45.19 | riv3t | ping time out |
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| 08:45.29 | riv3t | no connectivity |
| 08:45.30 | Guerin | riv3t: with the firewall off? |
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| 08:45.34 | eeyore-- | rigel: reason you want to write the start/end/block count is if you happen to want to restore on a different device, you know the physical characteristics |
| 08:45.40 | rigel | eeyore-- but dont i have to have enough space for a whole dvd worth of data on another hd for that? |
| 08:45.41 | eobanb | so which box is the DHCP server? |
| 08:45.46 | eeyore-- | rigel: the start/end probably don't matter as much as the block count |
| 08:45.47 | Guerin | riv3t: and you're pinging by ip address, yeah? |
| 08:45.52 | riv3t | I don't have a dhcp server |
| 08:45.55 | eobanb | ... |
| 08:45.56 | riv3t | yes |
| 08:46.05 | eeyore-- | rigel: eh? dvd? |
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| 08:46.06 | riv3t | should I setup the network with dhcp? |
| 08:46.11 | eobanb | you surely do have a dhcp server, or you wouldnt be getting those addresses |
| 08:46.11 | riv3t | I done it manual |
| 08:46.14 | Guerin | riv3t: no |
| 08:46.14 | eobanb | oh, okay |
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| 08:46.25 | Guerin | static is much easier to not break than dhcp |
| 08:46.27 | eobanb | yeah i still dont understand how you've set this up |
| 08:46.29 | rigel | oh when i said "backup" i meant "backup to dvd" |
| 08:46.32 | Eludias | Are there any Firefox-with-talkback builds in Debian (unstable) ? |
| 08:46.33 | rigel | my bad |
| 08:46.34 | Guerin | eobanb: um, no. |
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| 08:46.42 | riv3t | grr |
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| 08:46.49 | riv3t | I done the deb net install |
| 08:46.52 | Guerin | Eludias: i don't think talkback is in any debain mozilla stuff. |
| 08:47.01 | Eludias | Guerin: Ok, thanks... |
| 08:47.03 | eobanb | so the modem is plugged into one of the boxes |
| 08:47.07 | riv3t | it asked for network settings, DHCP, DHCP host, Manual |
| 08:47.08 | eobanb | and how is the other box connected |
| 08:47.10 | riv3t | I done manual |
| 08:47.16 | Guerin | good, manual is fine |
| 08:47.18 | eeyore-- | rigel: you mean in one go? sorry. don't know of one. however, *if* you do the gzip step, you'd likely compress the partition down quite nicely (esp. if you compact the partition beforehand) |
| 08:47.23 | riv3t | The modem is on this box |
| 08:47.28 | eobanb | yes, i get that part |
| 08:47.29 | Guerin | i think we have too many cooks here, i'll bow out |
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| 08:47.33 | eobanb | what about the OTHER box |
| 08:47.34 | riv3t | this box also has a NIC |
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| 08:47.38 | rigel | oh no, i cant do that |
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| 08:47.42 | riv3t | which is plugged into a hub |
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| 08:47.48 | rigel | my main drive is a 6 gig thing |
| 08:47.50 | eeyore-- | rigel: i regularly backup my friend's dad's partition (30GB) down to about 2 or 3GB file (because most of the drive is empty) |
| 08:47.56 | riv3t | and my other box is also plugged into the hub |
| 08:48.04 | rigel | and the drive i want to back up is a 120 gig fat32/ntfs |
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| 08:48.22 | rigel | lots of multimedia, i.e. compression = miniscule |
| 08:48.26 | eobanb | is one of them plugged into the uplink port on the hub? |
| 08:48.29 | eeyore-- | rigel: that's ridiculous. you want to back up 120GB to DVD's? no preprocessing? |
| 08:48.34 | Guerin | rigel: tar or dd and split |
| 08:48.36 | riv3t | no |
| 08:48.39 | riv3t | I'm not that lame. |
| 08:48.40 | rigel | eeyore: yep |
| 08:48.43 | eobanb | both are downlink? |
| 08:48.52 | riv3t | yes |
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| 08:48.55 | eeyore-- | rigel: go buy an external firewire drive ... seriously |
| 08:48.58 | riv3t | It's an old 10mbit hub |
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| 08:49.05 | rigel | its only what, 30 dvds or so |
| 08:49.11 | rigel | its a 16x burner |
| 08:49.15 | riv3t | Everything is the same as it was when I was using windows as the server |
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| 08:49.36 | eobanb | you could supply a connection? |
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| 08:49.44 | eobanb | with both plugged into the downlink? |
| 08:49.48 | riv3t | what? |
| 08:50.05 | riv3t | eobanb, if I give you a shell, can you take a look for me please? |
| 08:50.05 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, how do i find out what's loading lp? |
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| 08:50.27 | eobanb | no, listen for a sec |
| 08:50.27 | rigel | guerin: please elaborate, i was asking because i am a n00b |
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| 08:50.30 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, it's not in /etc/modules |
| 08:50.33 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: coldplug, hotplug, or maybe stuff in /etc/modules? |
| 08:50.34 | rigel | and cant find any howtos or whatever |
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| 08:50.49 | eobanb | which one was running windows before? |
| 08:50.54 | eobanb | and what was it 'serving' |
| 08:50.54 | riv3t | the other |
| 08:50.59 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, how would i tell hotplug not to load it? |
| 08:51.03 | jcohen85 | ...what's coldplug? |
| 08:51.05 | eobanb | okay.. |
| 08:51.08 | tarzeau | rigel, TEH RIGEL? |
| 08:51.11 | riv3t | was sharing the net to this debian box with winproxy |
| 08:51.14 | riv3t | that worked fine |
| 08:51.18 | rigel | tarzeau: ? |
| 08:51.19 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: kind of like hotplug but runs only once during cold boot |
| 08:51.22 | riv3t | then I put the modem on this box |
| 08:51.25 | tarzeau | rigel: ok, just another rigel |
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| 08:51.26 | riv3t | and dialed up |
| 08:51.29 | eobanb | yeah you have to mention that kind of stuff |
| 08:51.34 | pingouin | jcohen85: there is a file..somewhere to list what you dont want hotplug load at start |
| 08:51.36 | riv3t | installed deb on the other box |
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| 08:51.43 | Guerin | rigel: dd can make an image of the drive - an image you can split up into dvd-sized hunks using 'split' or similar, and then you can rejoin them with 'cat' later. |
| 08:51.43 | riv3t | and now they can't ping each other |
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| 08:51.46 | eobanb | you're going to need to set up nat on whichever box has the net connection |
| 08:51.53 | riv3t | yes |
| 08:51.58 | riv3t | Thats what I was trying to do |
| 08:52.03 | riv3t | this has the connection |
| 08:52.11 | riv3t | that is why I am on irc |
| 08:52.12 | eobanb | but that's not going to work if they're both plugged into the downlink ports on the hub |
| 08:52.14 | eobanb | do you understand? |
| 08:52.17 | Guerin | rigel: or you can use tar to just get the files, which will be 1) much faster and 2) much more portable |
| 08:52.25 | riv3t | wtf? downlink ports? |
| 08:52.27 | rigel | guerin: i understand that, but i need to be spoonfed. i.e. please give me a commandline i can punch in, i'll look at the manpages to verify whats going on and then do it. |
| 08:52.31 | mastx | I install Debian to my Apple powerbook, but yaboot not installed! Do you help me? |
| 08:52.40 | rigel | <--noob |
| 08:52.43 | eeyore-- | rigel: you can't do it because you don't have enough space to preprocess |
| 08:52.44 | riv3t | It just has 4 ports |
| 08:52.49 | riv3t | and a daisy chain port |
| 08:52.52 | Guerin | yeah |
| 08:52.55 | eobanb | it must be auto-sensing then. |
| 08:53.07 | eeyore-- | Guerin: he wants to do it all on the fly. he's got 6GB drive and 120GB partition to back up |
| 08:53.09 | Guerin | there are technical difficulties with backing up this much data to dvd |
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| 08:53.14 | Guerin | eeyore--: wtf |
| 08:53.16 | Guerin | ok |
| 08:53.16 | rigel | not a 120gb partition |
| 08:53.18 | rigel | a 120gb drive |
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| 08:53.24 | rigel | several smaller partitions |
| 08:53.28 | riv3t | so how do I setup nat then? |
| 08:53.31 | riv3t | what do I have to do? |
| 08:53.34 | eeyore-- | Guerin: not gonna happen. go buy an external drive and be happy :) |
| 08:53.37 | rigel | technical difficulties like? |
| 08:53.46 | Guerin | rigel: add forward rules to firestarter |
| 08:53.53 | Guerin | riv3t: ^^ |
| 08:53.58 | eobanb | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-bridge-fw.en.html |
| 08:53.58 | rigel | guerin:? |
| 08:54.03 | Guerin | rigel: i tend to agree with eeyore-- |
| 08:54.06 | riv3t | what? |
| 08:54.08 | Guerin | that last line was a typo |
| 08:54.08 | riv3t | in english |
| 08:54.16 | riv3t | Why can't I ping without nat? |
| 08:54.25 | rigel | guerin: but see, i intend on getting a larger hd |
| 08:54.31 | rigel | but that wont be for several weeks |
| 08:54.37 | Guerin | riv3t: you should get connectivity bvefore you set up firewalling of any sort |
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| 08:54.48 | rigel | i want to just dump all this data to dvd so at least i can sift through it later in case the drive dies completely |
| 08:54.49 | riv3t | I know, why isn't it working? |
| 08:55.02 | Guerin | rigel: your 6G drive is barely enough to make one 4.7G dvd image |
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| 08:55.17 | rigel | so theres no way to do that on the fly? |
| 08:55.21 | riv3t | fkn pice of shit |
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| 08:55.26 | Guerin | rigel: do you have more than 5G ram? |
| 08:55.30 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, i think i need to add lp to /etc/hotplug/blacklist but when i add init=/bin/bash to the grub line it loads / read-only so i can't write to the file |
| 08:55.32 | rigel | heh |
| 08:55.41 | eobanb | hahahaha |
| 08:55.43 | rigel | thats a no then? |
| 08:55.48 | Guerin | rigel: the data has to go someplace before it gets put on dvd |
| 08:55.56 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: "mount -o rw,remount /" |
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| 08:56.17 | Guerin | rigel: my advice: delete some porn (you don't need it anyway) and make do with the space you have. |
| 08:56.29 | Guerin | oh |
| 08:56.29 | mastx | yaboot problem! |
| 08:56.35 | eeyore-- | Guerin: no! not the porn! they took years to collect |
| 08:56.36 | rigel | holdup |
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| 08:56.51 | Guerin | eeyore--: and it'll take days to download again |
| 08:56.59 | rigel | /dev/hda1 5905972 1850756 3755204 34% / |
| 08:57.03 | Pfated | Heh. |
| 08:57.05 | rigel | feh |
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| 08:57.13 | rigel | this is a fresh install |
| 08:57.15 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, thanks, that worked |
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| 08:57.17 | rigel | i havent downloaded a damn thing |
| 08:57.20 | eeyore-- | tarzeau: oh oops, i bet you have +E right? i can't be identified now cuz i forgot and left a screen running at work, and i can't vpn in to disconnect :-p i sent you some /msg |
| 08:57.21 | riv3t | I can't understand why the 2 computers can't ping each other? |
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| 08:57.31 | Phr0zenKore_ | how do i get mldonkey on my install?> |
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| 08:57.59 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, i also noticed that it's not loading the driver for my nforce onboard ethernet because it can't sync to the ntp server on boot. It can't be a hardware problem since i can get online fine in windows |
| 08:58.01 | Guerin | bah, riv3t was the moron electron_ who though X was insecure because "his mate" foun d a "remote buffer overflow", but who now reveals that until recently he was using a windows box as a NAT gateway. |
| 08:58.04 | eeyore-- | riv3t: are we talking firewall or no firewall? |
| 08:58.11 | Guerin | oh |
| 08:58.12 | Guerin | he's back |
| 08:58.17 | Guerin | !moron riv3t |
| 08:58.18 | dpkg | riv3t: You are moron #46 |
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| 08:58.36 | tarzeau | eeyore--: i what /msg ? |
| 08:58.37 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: "forcedeth"? |
| 08:58.43 | tarzeau | eeyore--: i don't remember having gotten anything |
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| 08:58.59 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, yes |
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| 08:59.04 | eeyore-- | tarzeau: right, because you probably have your usermode +E (ignore /msg from anyone but identified users) |
| 08:59.10 | eeyore-- | tarzeau: it's not important :) |
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| 08:59.32 | tarzeau | eeyore--: can i remove the +E ? |
| 08:59.35 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: does it work reliably? :) |
| 08:59.39 | tarzeau | eeyore--: tell me anways |
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| 08:59.47 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, yeah, it works fine. i haven't had a problem until today |
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| 08:59.59 | eeyore-- | tarzeau: nah, +E is good. i told you my kid's name is also Rigel. said "must be lots of trekkies dads grew up and have kids" |
| 09:00.07 | Phr0zenKore_ | does anybody know a good gnutella client? |
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| 09:00.20 | john | Phr0zenKore: gtk-gnutella |
| 09:00.21 | liberfiasco | I've got a simple question.. |
| 09:00.22 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: no idea. don't have nvidia chip at home ... at work we use RHEL |
| 09:00.23 | Guerin | Phr0zenKore_: giFTcurs |
| 09:00.44 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, it still says lp0: lp driver loaded but no device found |
| 09:00.49 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, how do i stop coldboot |
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| 09:01.07 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: i don't think you have one (coldboot). could be the kernel? is this from early on in boot? |
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| 09:01.19 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, no, it's quite late |
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| 09:01.24 | Phr0zenKore_ | cool, thnx Guerin |
| 09:01.27 | Phr0zenKore_ | cuz i hate gtk-gnutella |
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| 09:01.36 | skadeour | hello, anybody know any channel for debian in spanish? |
| 09:01.45 | jcohen85 | after hotplug is run and the file systems, and networking, and mysql, mythbackend etc. |
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| 09:01.59 | Guerin | skadeour: #debian-es |
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| 09:02.05 | liberfiasco | I am downloading businesscard 30MB installation CD from debian.org and am gonna attempt to install from it.. however, my modem needs kernel sources to install drivers for it which probably aren't included with the 30MB iso.. |
| 09:02.07 | skadeour | guerin thanks |
| 09:02.14 | Guerin | skadeour: you're welcome |
| 09:02.14 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: do you have CUPS? |
| 09:02.28 | Guerin | liberfiasco: nothing is included in the 30MB iso |
| 09:02.31 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: why don't you remove hotplug for the time being? :) (just remove it from runlevels) |
| 09:02.40 | Yokalosh | hey, is there anything for ripping dvd's to avi? |
| 09:02.44 | liberfiasco | so.. can I just download the deb of the kernel sources from here (same exact version) and install it manually in the new installation to make the modem work, and then just proceed further |
| 09:02.48 | Guerin | liberfiasco: only the installer. You should get all of CD1 - and check it has kernel headers etc. on it |
| 09:02.48 | Yokalosh | oh, and that has a gui |
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| 09:03.08 | Guerin | liberfiasco: you'll need a toolchain as well. |
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| 09:03.10 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, yeah, i have cups |
| 09:03.16 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, should i disable cups? |
| 09:03.24 | liberfiasco | hm |
| 09:03.26 | eeyore-- | jcohen85: maybe cups is the one that's causing the lp module to be loaded |
| 09:03.26 | Guerin | Yokalosh: doom9.org |
| 09:03.46 | liberfiasco | well.. I can't download whole CD on modem.. I better get Damn Small Linux then and install from there.. |
| 09:03.48 | skadeour | Guerin can you said me, where i can obtain the last version of Debian in spanish? |
| 09:03.48 | Yokalosh | cheers guerin |
| 09:04.00 | liberfiasco | which brings me to another question.. |
| 09:04.03 | Guerin | liberfiasco: you can; it'll take less than a day. |
| 09:04.05 | Dewi | I have a printer for which no linux driver exists. Nevertheless, can I still attempt to share the printer to windows clients? Since the client has a driver with windows network printing it should in theory be possible, I think? |
| 09:04.14 | jcohen85 | eeyore-, i'll try turning it off |
| 09:04.22 | Guerin | skadeour: debian is multi-language - you get to choose your language, keyboard, etc. on install. |
| 09:04.25 | eeyore-- | Dewi: probably not |
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| 09:04.26 | Guerin | !install debian |
| 09:04.26 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 09:04.30 | Guerin | skadeour: ^^^ |
| 09:04.30 | pingouin | Dewi: printing under linux is so painfull....almost impossible |
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| 09:04.38 | eeyore-- | Dewi: linux still needs to know how to talk to it to a certain degree |
| 09:04.41 | liberfiasco | Guerin, yeah.. seen that.. |
| 09:04.42 | Oliver123 | is there other command to configure alsa exept alsaconf ? |
| 09:04.50 | Guerin | liberfiasco: that was for skadeour |
| 09:04.51 | Dewi | eeyore--: it should just be common USB printing stuff, I would think |
| 09:04.56 | skadeour | ok and where i can obtain de last version |
| 09:05.01 | pingouin | Dewi: whatever you're printer is..good luck |
| 09:05.02 | Guerin | skadeour: see above. |
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| 09:05.04 | liberfiasco | oh |
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| 09:05.20 | eeyore-- | Dewi: if it's USB printer and you're talking about fancy output options, sure, that should be fine |
| 09:05.22 | Dewi | pingouin: I seem to remember reading ages ago about "pass-through" configurations but I can't remember where |
| 09:05.26 | skadeour | thanks guerin |
| 09:05.29 | Guerin | liberfiasco: easiest way is just to get a real modem |
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| 09:05.42 | eeyore-- | Dewi: but if you're talking about an oddball windows-only printer (no smarts) then you're in trouble :) |
| 09:05.45 | liberfiasco | Guerin, well, not really.. :D |
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| 09:05.52 | Dewi | eeyore--: it's a canon. |
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| 09:05.55 | Guerin | liberfiasco: but dsl and debootstrap could be doable. Does DSL have a doolchain? |
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| 09:05.58 | Dewi | eeyore--: need I say more? :P |
| 09:06.00 | Dewi | eeyore--: I'm screwed |
| 09:06.04 | pingouin | Dewi: it's really something painfull to try to make a printer work..running nvidia graphic card is more easy ;) |
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| 09:06.07 | eeyore-- | Dewi: possibly OK :) |
| 09:06.07 | liberfiasco | Guerin, a sec.. let me check.. |
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| 09:06.16 | Dewi | pingouin: heh. not in my experience :) |
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| 09:06.25 | skadeour | liberfiasco.com? |
| 09:06.25 | pingouin | Dewi: just wait...try to print ;) |
| 09:06.26 | eeyore-- | pingouin: cups/foomatic does a good job |
| 09:06.36 | jcohen85 | setting up printing isn't hard in linux...it's actually easier in linux than in windows for supported printers |
| 09:06.37 | pingouin | eeyore--: yeah yeah ... in you're dreams surely ;) |
| 09:06.39 | eeyore-- | pinguoi: i print just fine onto epson printers |
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| 09:06.56 | eeyore-- | pingouin: epson photo 7xx, 9xx |
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| 09:07.03 | Dewi | jcohen85: and for non-supported printers? know anything about a "pass through" style of operation? |
| 09:07.04 | eeyore-- | 4x6, borderless |
| 09:07.08 | pingouin | eeyore--: i still grab mine to the neighbour computer |
| 09:07.08 | row2 | Hi there, I downloaded the debian source of courier-maildrop and compiled a deb from deb source but maildrop does not seem to deliver mail in maildir format but instead mbox is there a flag that debian/rules does not use that I must enable? |
| 09:07.12 | pingouin | eeyore--: windows... :/ |
| 09:07.17 | pingouin | eeyore--: what a shame ;) |
| 09:07.29 | jcohen85 | Dewi, no, sorry |
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| 09:07.34 | eeyore-- | pingouin: really, it works |
| 09:07.35 | Guerin | row2: why are you not using the debian build? |
| 09:07.36 | pingouin | eeyore--: but that's ok...XXI century..still not able to print... |
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| 09:07.43 | Guerin | row2: which definitely DOES use maildir |
| 09:07.47 | liberfiasco | Guerin, it doesn't seem to... except if it's in base-files http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html |
| 09:07.52 | pingouin | eeyore--: really it doesnt ;) |
| 09:07.54 | Guerin | liberfiasco: definitely not |
| 09:07.56 | liberfiasco | skadeour, libervis.com is the site |
| 09:07.57 | row2 | Guerin: I need sql support, have to wait for authlib version which is exp atm. |
| 09:08.01 | Guerin | liberfiasco: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 09:08.03 | pingouin | eeyore--: and i stoped try to make it works |
| 09:08.03 | skadeour | ahh ok Guerin, your link appear hide |
| 09:08.07 | Guerin | row2: oh, nasty. |
| 09:08.07 | eeyore-- | Dewi: it ought to work, then. |
| 09:08.07 | eeyore-- | pingouin: i don't wanna say this ... but ... maybe it's just you :-) |
| 09:08.13 | pingouin | eeyore--: lost toooo much time/hairs on it |
| 09:08.20 | pingouin | eeyore--: yeah that'ok ;) |
| 09:08.22 | skadeour | can you repeat please |
| 09:08.24 | pingouin | eeyore--: that's me ;) |
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| 09:08.41 | Guerin | skadeour: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer |
| 09:08.51 | pingouin | eeyore--: i'm not upset by this ;) i'm so lame ;) |
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| 09:09.04 | row2 | Guerin: do you know of a setting in maildroprc that would enable maildir format? |
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| 09:09.17 | pingouin | eeyore--: that you're surely right, the problem with printing under linux..is the user first |
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| 09:09.21 | Guerin | row2: i don't use maildrop myself. |
| 09:09.25 | pingouin | eeyore--: and the place of the moon in the sky also |
| 09:09.26 | eeyore-- | Dewi: i know that i can share epson photo printers on the net (via samba) but i am hesitant to put the drivers on windows machine, because the drivers are freaking stupid it's not funny. they (drivers) seem geared towards desktop-situation where the printer is attached to the local machine |
| 09:09.29 | dna | late night live mix |
| 09:09.30 | dna | http://ayradio.gamingbeacon.com:8000/ |
| 09:09.33 | row2 | Guerin: ah k :/ cheers anyhow |
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| 09:09.41 | eeyore-- | Dewi: assuming your cannon drivers are not brain-dead, you ought to be able to share the printer via samba |
| 09:09.57 | pingouin | Dewi: call a priest ;) |
| 09:09.58 | Guerin | eeyore--: that's an unwise thing to assume about canon software |
| 09:10.04 | pingouin | Dewi: and wait the full moon day |
| 09:10.10 | libervisio | connection broke |
| 09:10.20 | Guerin | !hr |
| 09:10.20 | dpkg | i heard hr is Croatia |
| 09:10.21 | pipatron | Hey ho.. Has anyone here put files in /etc under some revision manager like SVN or CVS? Any comments about it? |
| 09:10.31 | Guerin | liberfiasco: sorry ... that's a really big file |
| 09:10.36 | libervisco | Guerin, yeah |
| 09:11.13 | libervisco | if there would only be any livecd that has the toolchain and is lightweight.. |
| 09:11.18 | Guerin | liberfiasco: it has all the kernel-headers packages and the toolchain on it... might be your best bet, unless you feel like resolving the dependencies manually. |
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| 09:11.48 | riv3t | Oi |
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| 09:12.30 | riv3t | This is box's ip WAS 192.168.0.2 but when I put the modem on it, I done ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 to change it |
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| 09:12.52 | Guerin | riv3t: ... |
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| 09:12.55 | eeyore-- | PEBCAK |
| 09:12.59 | libervisco | Guerin, yeah, but that would take a couple of days if not more on modem.. I better buy a whole CD set then.. |
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| 09:13.22 | riv3t | is that correct? |
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| 09:13.28 | Guerin | libervisco: internet cafe? |
| 09:13.37 | eeyore-- | Guerin: local libraries |
| 09:13.43 | Dewi | pipatron: actually I've done that |
| 09:13.48 | Guerin | eeyore--: that could work too. |
| 09:13.51 | eeyore-- | Guerin: friend's place |
| 09:14.00 | eeyore-- | Guerin: or go wardriving ... |
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| 09:14.11 | Guerin | eeyore--: haha |
| 09:14.15 | Dewi | pipatron: on one of my machines (an openbsd one) I rsync the /etc directory to an SVN checkout |
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| 09:14.23 | Dewi | pipatron: then I commit my changes nicely with comments |
| 09:14.28 | Guerin | eeyore--: or he could just buy a real mode ... |
| 09:14.29 | Guerin | m |
| 09:14.30 | libervisco | Guerin, I am at home.. |
| 09:14.32 | Dewi | pipatron: so later I can see exactly what I was doing and why |
| 09:14.45 | Dewi | pipatron: unfortunately there's a lot of system configuration stuff that isn't in /etc, so it's not ideal |
| 09:14.51 | Guerin | libervisco: yeah. You might be in for a wait, then. |
| 09:15.16 | libervisco | maybe Feather has a toolchain |
| 09:15.18 | eeyore-- | pipatron: i just cron something to tar up /etc, then have another cron on the backup machine to scp the file, put them in 52-week rotation based on week number |
| 09:15.27 | pipatron | Dewi: That's why I wanted to do it, but I just tried putting the whole /etc under SVN on a "sandbox" machine, but it broke a lot of the permission flags so for example SSH refused to start |
| 09:15.39 | valdyn | !dirvish |
| 09:15.39 | dpkg | Dirvish is a fast, disk based, rotating network backup system. With dirvish you can maintain a set of complete images of your filesystems with unattended creation and expiration. A dirvish backup vault is like a time machine for your data. See http://www.dirvish.org |
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| 09:15.44 | Dewi | pipatron: yeah, don't make your /etc directly into a working copy |
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| 09:15.52 | Dewi | pipatron: I rsync it to a neutral location first |
| 09:15.56 | pipatron | Dewi: Ah.. |
| 09:15.58 | eeyore-- | pipatron: (it was backing up more than just /etc, though) |
| 09:16.00 | valdyn | eeyore--: basically rewrote that above ^^^? |
| 09:16.11 | eeyore-- | valdyn: hmm? |
| 09:16.22 | Dewi | pipatron: which is a bit of a hassle but I didn't want SVN messing directly with my system config |
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| 09:16.31 | pipatron | eeyore--: I see |
| 09:16.32 | Genome_host_2342 | hey ya losers |
| 09:16.33 | eeyore-- | valdyn: oh no, it's a very stupid, simple-minded script |
| 09:16.34 | skadeour | Guerin i have a pc compatible, what is the version that i have to download? |
| 09:16.37 | pipatron | Dewi: Yeah, good point |
| 09:16.41 | eeyore-- | valdyn: four lines of bash or so :) |
| 09:16.43 | Genome_host_2342 | who's got the headache over tech |
| 09:16.43 | Guerin | skadeour: i386 |
| 09:16.46 | skadeour | thanks |
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| 09:17.05 | Guerin | i use rsnapshot |
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| 09:17.08 | pipatron | Dewi: I'm very new to SVN too so I didn't really know what to expect. But now I know. :) |
| 09:17.09 | Guerin | which is just sh and rsync |
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| 09:17.24 | Dewi | Guerin: how does it differ from rsync? |
| 09:17.29 | Guerin | i don't put it in svn, it does versioning for me |
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| 09:17.42 | Guerin | Dewi: it doesn't, it's a bunch of shell scripts which use rsync. |
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| 09:17.49 | eeyore-- | pipatron: it's not that i mind CVS, i just don't see the point for /etc under CVS. esp. since some files in there are binaries |
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| 09:17.54 | Guerin | Dewi: and a config file |
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| 09:18.25 | Dewi | Guerin: I meant, what does it offer on top of what an rsync one-liner offers? |
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| 09:19.01 | Dewi | rync has a nice "backup" option so it'll move anything it would destructively change to a specified (so easily timstamped) location |
| 09:19.04 | eeyore-- | Dewi: i suppose if you can condense things into one-liners, no |
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| 09:19.29 | pipatron | eeyore--: The point is that I want a simple way to see what I have changed since a certain date, without having to diff different old versions etc |
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| 09:20.07 | Guerin | Dewi: runs at arbitrary intervals, doesn't require you to learn rsync, easily automated, keeps arbitrary versions and deletes them at specified times |
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| 09:20.16 | libervisco | Guerin, I have woody on CD's, all of it.. do you think I could use it to bootstrap myself and download the whole new toolchain, kernel and everything I wish later on to turn my base system fully into sarge? |
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| 09:20.25 | Guerin | libervisco: oh, sure thing. |
| 09:20.27 | libervisco | I think that should do it |
| 09:20.30 | eeyore-- | pipatron: i suppose ... i can see how you will be conscientius about commenting changes to source code you commit ... but /etc config files? are you gonna be as conscientious about putting in commit messages? |
| 09:20.37 | Guerin | libervisco: no problem at all with that. |
| 09:20.40 | eeyore-- | pipatron: so you might know it's changed, but the reason? |
| 09:20.44 | Erpo | What's a good gui tool for picking and connecting to wireless networks? |
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| 09:20.50 | libervisco | Guerin, okay.. will try that then :) |
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| 09:20.56 | libervisco | Guerin, thanks for the help :) |
| 09:21.03 | Guerin | libervisco: be advised that woody and 2.6 kernels don't mix, and you'd need to upgrade wholesale before using one. |
| 09:21.04 | Dewi | eeyore--: I do it, but only on openbsd. I don't do it in debian because it's so much bigger and more complicated |
| 09:21.04 | valdyn | Erpo: in gnome? |
| 09:21.08 | pipatron | eeyore--: Of course I would add comments with every commit, that would be the whole point :) |
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| 09:21.21 | libervisco | Guerin, you mean, first to 2.4 and then 2.6? |
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| 09:21.34 | Erpo | I'm using gnome, but if it works and it's user friendly I don't particularly care what toolkit it uses. |
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| 09:21.43 | Dewi | pipatron: incidentally, I log in as root and rsync it to root@localhost:/root/etc |
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| 09:21.57 | Guerin | libervisco: build your own 2.4 kernel on woody, for your modem, then upgrade wholesale to sarge and start installing new stuff thataway |
| 09:21.58 | Dewi | pipatron: permissions do get lost, but it's not a big deal |
| 09:22.03 | pipatron | Dewi: And then you commit from there? |
| 09:22.05 | valdyn | Erpo: alright, apt-cache show netapplet |
| 09:22.07 | Dewi | pipatron: yep |
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| 09:22.17 | valdyn | Erpo: that requires gnome, its alright |
| 09:22.18 | Guerin | permissions getting lost is a deal-breaker for me and a backup sstem |
| 09:22.23 | Guerin | i'd use tar to prevent that |
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| 09:22.29 | libervisco | Guerin, ok.. yeah.. 2.4 is included as testing in woody.. |
| 09:22.29 | Dewi | Guerin: it's more for reference than backup. |
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| 09:22.30 | pipatron | But it's not for backup |
| 09:22.31 | libervisco | cool.. |
| 09:22.38 | libervisco | Guerin, thanks.. cya |
| 09:22.38 | Guerin | Dewi: ok. |
| 09:22.42 | Dewi | Guerin: I'm a newb who forgets what I changed after 5 mins |
| 09:22.43 | Guerin | libervisco: g'luck. |
| 09:22.48 | Guerin | Dewi: haha |
| 09:22.59 | Guerin | Dewi: i comment things out before changing them |
| 09:23.05 | Guerin | so i can roll back easily |
| 09:23.07 | eeyore-- | all this effort? learn to concentrate :-) |
| 09:23.12 | Dewi | Guerin: I mean, you see how newbish my questions are in here, and I've been using debian for... urgh... a decade! |
| 09:23.17 | Guerin | I use a complex system involving # maeks |
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| 09:23.22 | Guerin | # original |
| 09:23.27 | Guerin | ## first change |
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| 09:23.32 | Guerin | ### second change |
| 09:23.33 | Guerin | etc. |
| 09:23.39 | eeyore-- | Guerin: eeew |
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| 09:23.49 | Dewi | Guerin: that's all backwards. Should be more #'s the older it is :P |
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| 09:23.57 | Guerin | eeyore--: it is disgusting to read, yeah, bvut it allows me to backtrack easily :) |
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| 09:24.09 | Guerin | Dewi: but that would be more effort |
| 09:24.15 | eeyore-- | Guerin: mine would be like #, ## seems like a good idea, ### no, not so hot, #### another try, ##### dammit, still not working |
| 09:24.27 | Dewi | eeyore--: hehehe |
| 09:24.27 | Guerin | eeyore--: funnily enough... |
| 09:24.31 | Dewi | eeyore--: that's kind of what I do |
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| 09:24.41 | Dewi | with stuff like VOIP which I can't get working |
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| 09:25.11 | Guerin | my first meaningful insight into comments in code was when larking through some of the resource files of carmageddon, which were in plain text |
| 09:25.21 | Guerin | when I discovered # this had better fucking work |
| 09:25.28 | pipatron | Yeah, like, "Hum, why the hell doesn't my server boot this time??" :D |
| 09:25.29 | Erpo | This netapplet looks interesting... |
| 09:25.29 | Guerin | apparently it did |
| 09:25.32 | eeyore-- | Guerin: but putting more #'s screws up alignment :) i'm anal retentive and i *like* to have # <description> line up with parameters, like this |
| 09:25.35 | eeyore-- | # blah blah |
| 09:25.43 | eeyore-- | # foo=bar |
| 09:25.48 | Guerin | eeyore--: haha |
| 09:25.58 | Dewi | I can't decide if being anal retentive hinders or helps with linux |
| 09:26.03 | Dewi | I think it helps |
| 09:26.17 | Dewi | but only just |
| 09:26.30 | Dewi | actually, if I wasn't anal retentive, I'd probably just use windows |
| 09:26.50 | Guerin | and if you were really anally retentive, you'd use OSX |
| 09:27.07 | Dewi | Guerin: urgh. I dunno. |
| 09:27.14 | eeyore-- | Guerin: i even go into smb.conf file and fix their as-shipped file to read |
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| 09:27.16 | skadeour | Guerin i have a problem i try download at my hdd and in this put "lost + found" and this is blocked to download, can i disbloqued? |
| 09:27.20 | eeyore-- | # description |
| 09:27.23 | eeyore-- | ;foo=bar |
| 09:27.24 | eeyore-- | into |
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| 09:27.26 | eeyore-- | # description |
| 09:27.28 | eeyore-- | ; foo=bar |
| 09:27.30 | Phr0zenKore_ | giFTcurs 0wnz |
| 09:27.31 | eeyore-- | imagine that |
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| 09:27.36 | valdyn | !confuse skadeour |
| 09:27.37 | skadeour | unbloqued |
| 09:27.50 | dpkg | No, them are our mushroom yesterday, skadeour? wellies of the monarchy of micronesia with extra herring |
| 09:27.55 | Dewi | eeyore--: resist the urge. doing that makes machine-parsing so much harder |
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| 09:27.57 | Guerin | skadeour: don't download stuff to /lost+found, put it in /home/yourusername/ |
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| 09:28.18 | eeyore-- | Dewi: it's too overpowering. i'm a victim. |
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| 09:28.29 | Dewi | valdyn: hahahaha. that's awesome. I love dpkg more and more each day. |
| 09:28.33 | Dewi | dpkg: you are HOT |
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| 09:28.53 | skadeour | i donwload from knoppx, RAM-home |
| 09:28.53 | skadeour | the file is too large |
| 09:28.53 | dpkg | Dewi: what are you talking about? |
| 09:28.56 | liable | !love Dewi |
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| 09:29.14 | Dewi | oh. ..................................... |
| 09:29.15 | Dewi | :) |
| 09:29.16 | rigel | meh |
| 09:29.21 | Guerin | skadeour: what OS do you have installed on the machine now? |
| 09:29.22 | eeyore-- | Dewi: got caught talking to a bot? |
| 09:29.29 | skadeour | none |
| 09:29.35 | skadeour | only live cd knoppix |
| 09:29.44 | skadeour | i want donwlad debin for have one |
| 09:29.45 | Dewi | eeyore--: caught? I don't bother with non-bots |
| 09:29.47 | Guerin | skadeour: can you clear the hard disk? |
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| 09:30.27 | Dewi | eeyore--: dpkg gives me everything I desire |
| 09:30.38 | Dewi | dpkg: don't you darling? |
| 09:30.50 | eeyore-- | i should go. it's late. and i wanna warm up some mongolian beef for a little midnight snack before i turn in :-) |
| 09:30.54 | eeyore-- | yummy |
| 09:31.21 | Dewi | eeyore--: don't stay up until dawn on saturday night configuring debian like I just did |
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| 09:31.31 | quik | I need to configure X to handle resolutions higher than 800*600, how can I do that? |
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| 09:31.54 | Dewi | quik: dpkg-reconfigure will ask that question |
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| 09:32.01 | Dewi | quik: ... eventually, along with many others |
| 09:32.08 | eeyore-- | Dewi: nah, kids are asleep ... this is about the only time i have to myself |
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| 09:32.26 | skadeour | my hard disk is formatted for knoppix |
| 09:32.26 | skadeour | is clean |
| 09:32.27 | skadeour | but don have save the file in the hdd |
| 09:32.27 | skadeour | i haven got permise |
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| 09:33.05 | eeyore-- | quik: edit X config file. put in something other than "800x600" (but watch your horizsync and vertrefresh values, they ultimately restrict how hight you can go) |
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| 09:33.55 | eeyore-- | quik: you can't pick arbitrary resolutions that are not supported by HorizSync and VertRefresh, see /var/log/XFree*log to see modes that are discarded, and reasons why |
| 09:34.07 | Guerin | !hwinfo |
| 09:34.13 | quik | so to edit it to display, 1280*1024 @ 70hz, could could I do? |
| 09:34.15 | quik | ah |
| 09:34.34 | Guerin | dpkg: hello? |
| 09:34.37 | dpkg | i guess hwinfo is your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 09:34.41 | dpkg | Hi, guerin! |
| 09:34.44 | Guerin | good on ya mate |
| 09:34.44 | miag | yes 85hz also do |
| 09:34.51 | deadcat | drac: nv doesnt support dual monitor no? |
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| 09:35.22 | Dewi | Guerin: do you rsnapshot to a remote host? if so, I assume that host must have the same set of usernames so that permissions are preserved? |
| 09:35.24 | drac | deadcat: maybe with plain old xinerama extension.. not sure |
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| 09:35.40 | nvz | I dont undersand fully the mental processes that impede sleep when you are tired.. they are like running with nohup or something |
| 09:35.50 | deadcat | drac: i am man'ing nv but dont see anything about dual mon |
| 09:35.51 | Guerin | Dewi: actually, i'm not sure how that works. |
| 09:36.03 | drac | deadcat: yeah, it's not in the driver, xinerama is x server extension |
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| 09:36.17 | drac | deadcat: like setupping 2 section monitors, 2 section devices, and so on |
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| 09:36.34 | drac | deadcat: like what you would do with 2 cards |
| 09:36.37 | deadcat | drac: but i only have 1 card. vga and dvi out |
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| 09:36.51 | Dewi | Guerin: the great thing about tar is that you get perfect copy, but I don't know of any way to use it incrementally |
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| 09:37.07 | pkern | [LVM(2) question]: How are the logical volumes aligned in a physical volumes? In any case contiguous? Can they be moved within a physical volume if the free space is sufficient? |
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| 09:37.16 | drac | deadcat: trade it to decent card, like ati *grin* :) |
| 09:37.25 | deadcat | drac: (= |
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| 09:37.48 | nvz | pkern: yes there is a program called lvmove or something |
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| 09:37.56 | pkern | nvz: Thanks. |
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| 09:38.08 | fox-boy | can anyone suggest a good package to use to convert avi file to svcd format? |
| 09:38.08 | pkern | nvz: But doesn't it move the LV between to PVs? |
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| 09:38.18 | deadcat | drac: later. i am dead sleepy.. and i have shit loads of school work to do before monday )= |
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| 09:38.29 | Dewi | ATI lame |
| 09:38.42 | Dewi | there must be some way to get nv to do dual, deadcat . I just don't know it. |
| 09:38.50 | nvz | pkern: actually lvreduce and pvmove |
| 09:39.01 | drac | deadcat: night :) |
| 09:39.13 | eobanb | fox-boy: ffmpeg |
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| 09:39.23 | nvz | pkern: pvmove changes the physical extents of the volume |
| 09:39.23 | drac | Dewi: yeah, like I said. maybe with xinerama. |
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| 09:39.53 | Dewi | drac: it's something I plan to try soon. I'll keep that in mind. |
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| 09:40.15 | nazgul | After moving from XF86 to Xorg gdm does not seem to come up any more. all I see is "startding gdm..." and then the ugly grey X screen. the other problem: it seems to attempt to start up two X servers. that will fail on the same terminal number, of course. |
| 09:40.25 | pkern | nvz: Hm. And the physical extents where it should be put in could be freely specified as long as they're free? Nice. But still I need a filesystem which could shrink then. |: |
| 09:40.25 | nazgul | I am using testing |
| 09:40.28 | fox-boy | eoband: thanks! I take it you've successfully installed.... I tried kavi2svcd and ran into all kinds of extra steps to install... couldn't get it to start |
| 09:40.33 | Dewi | nazgul: I had some problems similar |
| 09:40.44 | Dewi | nazgul: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 09:41.06 | nazgul | Dewi, already did that. and dpkg-reconfigure gdm. to no avail :( |
| 09:41.11 | nvz | pkern: only if you intend on keeping it intact :P you can shrink a volume without shrinking the filesystem, you just risk data loss |
| 09:41.13 | Dewi | nazgul: answer all the questions again and get fresh config (I think maybe the migrator from xf86 -> org is less than perfect) |
| 09:41.27 | quik | "(II) NV(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)" what exactly does that mean? |
| 09:41.36 | makad | nazgul: have you removed xfree86 server? |
| 09:41.49 | nazgul | Dewi, yes I had to s/keyboard/kbd in the config file |
| 09:41.50 | pkern | nvz: I had XFS and wanted to shrink it. You can't even mount it when you reduced the size of the partition, even if you're pretty sure that there is no /user/ data. |
| 09:41.59 | Dewi | quik: it might be outside the range of resolutions allowed by your vert and horiz sync limits |
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| 09:42.29 | Dewi | nazgul: in the end I had two remaining problems: 1) I had no mouse plugged in and that was killing gdm |
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| 09:42.58 | Dewi | (I use vnc X server so I normally don't have a mouse plugged in) |
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| 09:43.20 | Dewi | nazgul: I also had a bunch of problems relating to keyboard layouts which I still don't understand but eventually just... er... stopped happning |
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| 09:43.33 | nazgul | Dewi, well the Xserver *does* start up, but only the grey screen is visible. gdm is not invoked. |
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| 09:43.55 | nvz | yeah I was tired as hell at 7pm, stayed up until 11:40pm and then woke up again at 1:40am and havent been able to sleep since got something on my mind and cant let it off I guess... its annoying the shit out of me :P |
| 09:44.10 | Dewi | nazgul: yeah, I was getting that at one point. it fixed eventually, sorry I can't be more specific about what I did, but a lot of stuff was broken at the time |
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| 09:44.28 | nvz | its 5:40am now and I am in for another day to figure it out it seems |
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| 09:44.36 | Dewi | nazgul: what kernel you running? |
| 09:44.37 | liable | nazgul: so it doesnt drop you into gnome? |
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| 09:44.53 | nazgul | Dewi, Debian-2.12 |
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| 09:45.09 | nazgul | liable, yes, gdm is not invoked as it seems. |
| 09:45.12 | Dewi | nazgul: is that... the hurd? |
| 09:45.23 | nazgul | Dewi, no, the LInux |
| 09:45.31 | Dewi | nazgul: linux 2.1? |
| 09:45.32 | makad | Dewi: I think he means 2.6.12 |
| 09:45.37 | nazgul | arg 2.6.12 |
| 09:45.41 | Dewi | right :) |
| 09:46.03 | Dewi | just checking in case you had broken deps like I did when my kernel was sub 2.6.12 |
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| 09:47.03 | Dewi | well, I've offered enough half-baked advice for now. wr0k time. |
| 09:47.07 | Dewi | have fun, guys. |
| 09:47.36 | nvz | that half-baked comment made me recall something.. |
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| 09:47.50 | yang | Would DDR2 533mhz RAM fit into my machine, I use DDR 400mhz now |
| 09:47.53 | nazgul | nvz, your pizza? |
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| 09:48.02 | nvz | no, they have pre-cooked twice baked potatos they sell now... |
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| 09:48.28 | liable | yang: #hardware |
| 09:48.43 | nvz | well if they are pre-cooked twice baked potato, doesnt that make them trice-baked when you put them in the oven to heat em up? |
| 09:49.03 | nazgul | lol I'd say so |
| 09:49.09 | nvz | this has kept me up all night.. heh hj/k |
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| 09:49.33 | Dewi | nvz: I... made you think all that? |
| 09:49.39 | Dewi | nvz: I'm terribly sorry! |
| 09:50.10 | nvz | hey my mind wanders.. comes with having high intellect and nothing to do |
| 09:50.29 | nvz | if I had a little better sense of humor I would make a hell of a comedian |
| 09:50.49 | nvz | character and pesonality help too |
| 09:50.52 | liable | nvz: well, why dont you do something! |
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| 09:51.19 | nvz | well its not even 6am yet and I dont think the neighborhood is ready for me to start playing guitar yet |
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| 09:51.58 | nvz | and as for "do'n" somthin.. all the girls are asleep at this time of day :P |
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| 09:52.16 | nvz | I was hoping to be just waking up about now. |
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| 09:52.30 | liable | maturbate.. should help you sleep.. :P |
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| 09:52.53 | nvz | na, I could pull it off before that would work |
| 09:53.11 | nvz | I tried playing video games.. usually makes me tired |
| 09:53.12 | nazgul | liable, lol |
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| 09:53.27 | Dewi | ouch. remind me never to enter into homosexual congress with you, nvz . |
| 09:53.29 | fox-boy | eoband: Is ffmpeg command line driven... no gui? |
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| 09:53.43 | nvz | but here it is 4 hours later and I had to get out of bed again cause I am just sitting there |
| 09:53.49 | nazgul | fox-boy, isnt that a library? |
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| 09:54.20 | halmetti | what's "RAMDISK"? |
| 09:54.22 | fox-boy | nazgul: don't think so. |
| 09:54.27 | liable | there is a homosexual congress? |
| 09:54.32 | nvz | heh |
| 09:54.34 | nazgul | !ramdisk |
| 09:54.34 | Dewi | liable: probably. I've never looked. |
| 09:54.34 | dpkg | methinks ramdisk is a method of using a portion of your ram as if it were another hard drive partition. See http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html |
| 09:54.59 | fox-boy | nazgul: I loaded the app using the Sarge cds |
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| 09:55.30 | fox-boy | I was hoping to find a gui based application that'll convert avi files to dvd, svcd, etc., format |
| 09:55.42 | Dewi | fox-boy: ffmpeg is a decoder |
| 09:55.50 | liable | grip? |
| 09:55.52 | Dewi | fox-boy: normally you use it in a media player |
| 09:56.00 | halmetti | dunno why but my installer freezes after "RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0" |
| 09:56.01 | liable | mencoder..? |
| 09:56.04 | Dewi | fox-boy: but yes, it could help with that |
| 09:56.11 | Dewi | fox-boy: I don't know what app though |
| 09:56.22 | maakud | fox-boy: vlc can "play to a file" |
| 09:56.57 | liable | fox-boy: doom9.org |
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| 09:57.29 | maakud | halmetti: not enough space for the compressed ram to uncompress? |
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| 09:57.37 | nvz | as Fiona Apple had said, I got my feet on the ground, and I don't go to sleep to dream. |
| 09:57.44 | fox-boy | liable: doom9.org has what I'm looking for? |
| 09:58.03 | liable | fox-boy: well, its just a click away... |
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| 09:58.10 | liable | why dont you see. |
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| 09:58.16 | smains | fox-boy, download kavi2svcd, it's a gui app that does what you want |
| 09:58.24 | maakud | fix-boy: try the program "vlc" |
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| 09:58.35 | liable | mencoder! |
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| 09:58.49 | fox-boy | smains: I tried installing kavi2svcd but couldn't get it to work |
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| 09:59.19 | smains | fox-boy, did you have trouble compiling it ? |
| 09:59.41 | fox-boy | smains: everything ran ok... ./configure, make, etc.. but nothing came up when I typed in kavi2svcd |
| 09:59.43 | liable | fox-boy: its .net anyway if your interested.. |
| 10:00.04 | smains | fox-boy, strange |
| 10:00.14 | fox-boy | liable: thanks... I'll look into it |
| 10:00.31 | fox-boy | smains: yea, very strang :-( |
| 10:00.42 | fox-boy | smains: i had my hopes on getting it to work |
| 10:01.45 | fox-boy | I'm trying to break away from Windows based applications but so much stuff on the market forces you at least to use their stuff up front |
| 10:01.50 | monster | I make my brother to use debian recently :) |
| 10:01.54 | smains | fox-boy, I have no idea what is wrong with the software as I have only used it a couple of times, so I can't help you, sorry :/ |
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| 10:02.03 | fox-boy | like my Canon camera that captures avi files |
| 10:02.23 | maakud | monster: what did you make hime use debian for? |
| 10:02.28 | theD3viL | Please tell me if i can set xmms to use iso-8895-2 ? |
| 10:02.29 | fox-boy | smains: no worries... some way I'll eventually get something to work |
| 10:02.33 | smains | fox-boy, I agree, a lot of stuff are so much harder on linux, and a couple of things are easier, but not manny |
| 10:02.38 | maakud | fox-boy: avi is not propreitary format. |
| 10:02.39 | EdLin | fox-boy: you can view avi files in GNU/Linux |
| 10:02.40 | smains | fox-boy, thats the spirit :) |
| 10:02.53 | monster | He can connect to the internet only trough the vnc on my debian :) |
| 10:03.28 | maakud | monster: now you can watch what he watches. |
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| 10:03.40 | monster | He uses VNC on his w2k to use internet |
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| 10:04.08 | monster | Yes but i'm not so bad :P |
| 10:04.30 | monster | Maybe he will like this distro and linux finally |
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| 10:05.33 | maakud | monster: but he will miss opengl! no opengl for vnc! |
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| 10:06.19 | monster | When he would like to use opengl he wuld have to install it on his box |
| 10:06.24 | maakud | smains: what in makes it harder for you? |
| 10:06.28 | monster | And that's the point |
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| 10:07.19 | maakud | smains: s/in makes/in linux makes/ |
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| 10:08.08 | smains | maakud, hmm... all those small things I'm used to do in windows that I now have to search google for, thats not too bad, but when I want to download binary stuff from usenet I have a lot of different options on windows but in Linux i only have one decent one, Klibido |
| 10:08.52 | smains | In windows there are a lot of different torrent-gui programs but on Linux I have to use Azureus |
| 10:09.20 | maakud | smains: not knowing anything about downloading binary stuff from usenet. didn't they use uuencode for that? |
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| 10:09.54 | liable | smains: err, theres a few torrent programs.. |
| 10:10.12 | smains | liable, with gui's like azureus ? |
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| 10:10.19 | maakud | smains: qtorrent? |
| 10:10.21 | ma3x | umount: /media/usb0: device is busy |
| 10:10.21 | liable | !search torrent |
| 10:10.22 | smains | s/gui's/guis |
| 10:10.23 | ma3x | how can i find out what's using it? |
| 10:10.32 | ma3x | lsof | grep usb0 shows nothing |
| 10:10.34 | Eulex | smains, bittorrent? bittornado |
| 10:10.50 | maakud | smains: mldonkey? |
| 10:11.12 | row2 | Does anyone know of a setting/flag for maildrop to tell it its a maildir format and not mbox cause even when I set a folder in config.h/maildroprc it just fails on can't open mailbox. |
| 10:11.15 | smains | bittornado isn't exactly multi-torrent |
| 10:11.21 | liable | ma3x: lsof /media/usb0? |
| 10:11.40 | liable | multi torrent? |
| 10:11.44 | smains | maakud, i don't know theese two |
| 10:11.48 | Guerin | smains: yes, it is. |
| 10:11.57 | smains | liable, more torrents in the same gui window |
| 10:11.57 | Guerin | rtorrent is better, though. |
| 10:12.34 | Guerin | smains: if you want a gui client, use ABC, which is based on bittornado. rtorrent is the best of the ncurses clients, though. |
| 10:12.34 | row2 | smains you tried btdownloadmany? |
| 10:13.04 | smains | row2, It lacks features |
| 10:13.07 | row2 | ah gui, azureus is feature full but dirty, uses that for gui stuff in debian |
| 10:13.15 | row2 | -s |
| 10:13.33 | Guerin | eew, javaware |
| 10:13.50 | smains | row2, that's what I'm saying, in Windows i can choose between a lot of bloated gui apps, also some non-java |
| 10:13.54 | row2 | yeah its dirty but lots and lots of features a mutli torrent client needs to be honest. |
| 10:13.56 | maakud | what is row2? |
| 10:14.08 | smains | maakud, Azureus |
| 10:15.39 | row2 | like its ratio cut offs etc, you can basicly let it manage your ratios etc with no worry, I know of no other client well nix client that will do that. |
| 10:15.39 | Guerin | row2: that's a bad thing anyway |
| 10:15.39 | row2 | Guerin: why is that bad you set it how you like got nice queue rules |
| 10:15.52 | Guerin | row2: it encourages people to sshare less than they potentially could. |
| 10:16.07 | maakud | how about bittornado-gui? |
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| 10:17.00 | Fox_1_ | listen i forgot my icq password and questions. how can i get it? |
| 10:17.04 | row2 | Guerin: not true, I set my to ratio of 2 I am on 2mbit/256kbit and frankly ratio of 2 is hard enough to keep, and you have to set the rule, and if someone is uploading double what they download that will normally mean someone anit sharing so to be honest if everyone did not cheat system with be fine with near 1:1. |
| 10:17.08 | Guerin | Fox_1_: you can't |
| 10:17.18 | Fox_1_ | and i have not data |
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| 10:17.36 | row2 | talking of passwords, how do you get nickserv to drop your account or reset pass on freenode? |
| 10:17.36 | Yokalosh | how can i mount an iso of a dvd? |
| 10:17.36 | Fox_1_ | i have reinstalled my os |
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| 10:17.41 | maakud | Fox_1_: same problem here. so i filed affidavit and changed my name to maakud. |
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| 10:18.08 | Guerin | row2: most of your statement made no sense |
| 10:18.17 | Guerin | row2: but i think i see what you're getting at. |
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| 10:18.21 | maakud | Yokalosh: you not mount an iso of a dvd. |
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| 10:18.38 | Guerin | maakud: you CAN |
| 10:18.42 | liable | Yokalosh: on loop, -t udf |
| 10:18.45 | Guerin | Yokalosh: mount -loop |
| 10:18.52 | row2 | Guerin: sorry trying to beat maildrop at the moment, its effecting my other brain functions ;) |
| 10:18.58 | Guerin | some dvds are udf, others are iso9660 |
| 10:19.22 | liable | oh. |
| 10:19.29 | maakud | orry. my mistake |
| 10:19.30 | hile | row2: /msg nickserv help tells it you: /msg nickserv drop and /msg nickserv help set |
| 10:19.44 | row2 | hile ta mate. |
| 10:20.23 | Yokalosh | okay |
| 10:20.25 | Yokalosh | thanks |
| 10:20.38 | liable | Yokalosh: man mount.. |
| 10:21.05 | Fox_1_ | can i get new icq id from web? (without installing icq program) |
| 10:21.22 | Guerin | Fox_1_: just stop using icq and use jabber |
| 10:21.28 | Yokalosh | lol |
| 10:21.46 | row2 | hile: you need to be logged into your nick for that tho... and I don't have my pass :) |
| 10:21.56 | hile | oh ;) |
| 10:21.58 | Fox_1_ | jabber? |
| 10:22.02 | Guerin | !jabber |
| 10:22.02 | dpkg | [jabber] a GPLed cross-platform, multi-protocol, extremely extensible instant messaging system that is server based and uses XML for communication. Check it out at http://jabber.org or #jabber., or gabber, or available via the apt-get sources.list line "deb http://eliot.landrum.cx/packages frozen main", or simply amazing! |
| 10:22.45 | Yokalosh | fox_1_: you could use the icq2go thing |
| 10:22.48 | Fox_1_ | Guerin: does it use icq servers? |
| 10:22.50 | Yokalosh | that doesnt require download |
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| 10:23.14 | [sr] | hi |
| 10:23.14 | Fox_1_ | Yokalosh, thanks, i have found it:) |
| 10:23.15 | Yokalosh | :D |
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| 10:23.17 | Yokalosh | cool |
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| 10:23.23 | Eulex | Guerin, -o loop, not -loop |
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| 10:24.30 | Guerin | Eulex: ah, right you are |
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| 10:24.32 | maakud | icq/jabber/etc. too complex. irc is easier. |
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| 10:24.44 | Guerin | maakud: bitlbee |
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| 10:26.36 | maakud | Guerin: thanks. installing bitlbee. |
| 10:27.48 | Guerin | maakud: you needn't install it |
| 10:27.54 | Guerin | just connect to im.bitlbee.org |
| 10:28.00 | f00d | i'm working on my server and find that there are some files i can rm or mv and there are others i can't despite the fact they have identical permissions. ls -l says two files are '-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data' yet i can only remove one. why/how is this? |
| 10:28.19 | Guerin | f00d: lsattr say anything? |
| 10:28.28 | f00d | hmm, thanks will check |
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| 10:28.54 | host` | why would I get this error if the file is there? http://pastebin.com/366802 |
| 10:28.54 | f00d | Guerin: hmm ;) ----------------- |
| 10:29.08 | host` | make[2]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/build' |
| 10:29.13 | Guerin | f00d: what filesystems? |
| 10:29.17 | Guerin | the same? |
| 10:29.19 | host` | make[2]: Makefile: No such file or directory |
| 10:29.36 | f00d | Guerin: yes. |
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| 10:29.56 | Guerin | host`: do you know precisely which makefile it's looking for? |
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| 10:30.39 | host` | Guerin: both Makefile's are there |
| 10:30.50 | row2 | if I want postfix to use maildrop should I just compile maildrop package or courier-maildrop could that be my problem? |
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| 10:30.53 | host` | the one in the source I'm compiling and the one in my kernel headers |
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| 10:31.30 | Guerin | host`: read the output log to see which file exactly it'as looking for |
| 10:31.37 | Guerin | it might be something entirely different |
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| 10:31.45 | yoo | Hi all ! |
| 10:31.50 | host` | ouput log? |
| 10:31.52 | f00d | Guerin: what is the difference between 'file attributes' and permissions? the manpage is pretty sparse. |
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| 10:31.55 | maakud | !tell row2 wayc |
| 10:31.58 | host` | output* log |
| 10:32.10 | maakud | !tell row2 about wayc |
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| 10:32.20 | maakud | !wayc |
| 10:32.26 | Dazgard | hi |
| 10:32.35 | row2 | that does not work :/ |
| 10:32.53 | Guerin | f00d: all i know is what's in man chattr |
| 10:32.56 | Dazgard | how can i setup the debian horde3 package to work with apache2 please |
| 10:32.56 | Dazgard | ? |
| 10:32.57 | maakud | row2. any way why are you compiling? |
| 10:32.58 | host` | Guerin: how can I see the output log? |
| 10:33.06 | Guerin | f00d: and the only one I've ever used is 'i' |
| 10:33.14 | Dazgard | i don't find any conf file for apache in th epackage |
| 10:33.21 | maakud | row2: why no apt-get install maildrop |
| 10:33.35 | row2 | maakud: need sql/authlib support |
| 10:33.37 | Guerin | host`: is there one in .? |
| 10:33.42 | nkuttler | Dazgard: dpkg -L the package |
| 10:33.51 | Dazgard | nkuttler: done yet |
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| 10:34.05 | f00d | Guerin: ahah ok. someone has installed a fileserver on my server to move data around using the DCC protocol. i'm trying to remove the bloody thing. |
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| 10:34.13 | nkuttler | Dazgard: /usr/share/doc/horde3 or look at horde.org |
| 10:34.17 | Guerin | f00d: evilness. |
| 10:34.21 | f00d | Guerin: bandwidth is totally hosed ;) |
| 10:34.38 | Dazgard | nkuttler: yes im gonna read some other stuff, thanks |
| 10:34.50 | host` | Guerin: don't know, I'll have to restart to find out |
| 10:34.55 | maakud | Dazgard: horde conf file in /etc/horde linked to /etc/apache/conf.d |
| 10:35.09 | Dazgard | maakud: simple as that ? |
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| 10:35.47 | maakud | Dazgard: at least starting point. |
| 10:35.55 | Dazgard | maakud: lol |
| 10:36.03 | Dazgard | not working |
| 10:36.16 | Dazgard | there should be a apache conf file |
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| 10:36.26 | Dazgard | i'll make my own :( |
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| 10:36.54 | maakud | Dazgard: sorry. was thinking of horde2. |
| 10:36.58 | host` | one more question, I have the kernel headers for 2.6.8 stable, would everything be the same if I upgraded to unstable? |
| 10:37.09 | host` | would those same headers work |
| 10:37.10 | maakud | Dazgard: perhaps horde3 is not similar. |
| 10:37.24 | EdLin | host`: iyntays |
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| 10:37.34 | Dazgard | maakud: yes i remember for horde2 it was easy, just "ln -s" |
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| 10:37.42 | Dazgard | the config file was enought |
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| 10:37.54 | Dazgard | seems things have change alittle bit |
| 10:37.56 | host` | iyntays |
| 10:38.00 | host` | ? |
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| 10:38.12 | Guerin | !iyhtays host` |
| 10:38.13 | dpkg | host`: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 10:38.26 | novice_ubuntu_us | help anyone |
| 10:38.32 | Guerin | novice_ubuntu_us: #ubuntu |
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| 10:38.39 | host` | :/ |
| 10:38.40 | xxxpixie | hi. how do i build a debian source package for i686 instead of i386 ? |
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| 10:38.49 | EdLin | host`: why do you want to run unstable? |
| 10:38.49 | f00d | does anyone here know how it is that i have two files of identical permissions, one of which i can't delete? they are both |
| 10:38.50 | f00d | -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data |
| 10:38.57 | maakud | host`: kernel headers are of two types. |
| 10:38.59 | Guerin | xxxpixie: why would you? |
| 10:39.10 | novice_ubuntu_us | #unbuntu |
| 10:39.11 | xxxpixie | Guerin: to optimize it for that arch |
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| 10:39.21 | Eulex | f00d, did you try lsattr on the files? |
| 10:39.30 | Dazgard | EdLin: why running unstable on a desktop using debian ??? |
| 10:39.33 | Dazgard | lol |
| 10:39.33 | host` | EdLin: I've been told it's stable |
| 10:39.36 | Dazgard | funny |
| 10:39.40 | Guerin | xxxpixie: the answer, naturally enough, is to pass options to your compiler, but if you need to ask how, you don't need to do it. |
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| 10:39.44 | EdLin | !topicsmite host` |
| 10:39.45 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon host`. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 10:39.52 | f00d | Eulex: yes they are *both* '-----------------' |
| 10:39.59 | SimonRaven | maakud: yeh. fucked and not fucked ;p |
| 10:40.00 | Guerin | host`: go and find the person who told you that and break a whiskey bottle over their head |
| 10:40.01 | Eulex | f00d, hmm |
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| 10:40.18 | Eulex | host`, unstable != stable :P |
| 10:40.23 | Guerin | !sid faq |
| 10:40.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 10:40.28 | EdLin | host`: sorry about that, unstable's stability is not in the /topic anymore. |
| 10:40.55 | host` | well, this seems like insanity, because obviously it's not stable |
| 10:40.57 | SimonRaven | or lack thereof |
| 10:41.03 | Yiroon | What's the trick to type special chars in a terminal? Holding down the alt-key + numeric combo? |
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| 10:41.07 | host` | if I'm having this problem |
| 10:41.09 | f00d | Eulex: i've been hacked and i'm trying to remove the fileserver they've installed on my server. |
| 10:41.14 | xxxpixie | Guerin: how to do it for a debian package? |
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| 10:41.17 | host` | I got it installed with sarge |
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| 10:41.30 | Guerin | f00d: oh, you've actually been hacked? Reinstall. |
| 10:41.33 | SimonRaven | Yiroon: that's windoze. use compose like a good *nix person |
| 10:41.36 | theD3viL | Why msttcorefonts not in amsn? |
| 10:41.43 | Yiroon | SimonRaven: compose? |
| 10:41.50 | SimonRaven | google it |
| 10:41.57 | Yiroon | I seem to have the command installed. |
| 10:42.08 | f00d | Guerin: not that simple, there are around 50 other people with ~/'s on the same server. i am not the administrator. |
| 10:42.09 | Yiroon | No it's something that has to do with mail. |
| 10:42.17 | Guerin | f00d: the reason you can't remove those files is likely because whoever hacked you altered rm, or mv, or your kernel. |
| 10:42.36 | nkuttler | theD3viL: ms doesn't distribute them any more afaik, you can get them from sf iirc |
| 10:42.40 | Guerin | f00d: restore from backups. There's no wa to recover a rooted server. And if you're not the admin, why are you doing this? |
| 10:42.52 | Guerin | xxxpixie: the same way as for any other program or package. |
| 10:42.56 | SimonRaven | you can do it in vim,with ^v. but you said terminal |
| 10:43.03 | Guerin | xxxpixie: if you don't know, you don't need to. |
| 10:43.13 | Eulex | f00d, I'd do a complete reinstall and plug whatever security hole they came in through |
| 10:43.33 | Eulex | f00d, and run stable, if you aren't doing that |
| 10:43.39 | f00d | Guerin: because i just discovered a folder called 'iroffer' in my ~/ and a really big log of traffic and connections. see http://iroffer.org |
| 10:43.41 | SimonRaven | nkuttler: msttcorefonts will fetch them from that site |
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| 10:43.46 | xxxpixie | Guerin: what... you mean CFLAGS=-march=i686 dpkg-buildpackage ... ? |
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| 10:44.08 | f00d | Guerin: i'm waiting for the admins to wake up and read their email. |
| 10:44.12 | Guerin | xxxpixie: debian packages use a makefile, typically. |
| 10:44.17 | Guerin | f00d: bring the host down |
| 10:44.28 | SimonRaven | rules file is a makefile script |
| 10:44.29 | green_earz | f00d: and look at using tripwire on a new install |
| 10:44.37 | f00d | green_earz: yes, wise. |
| 10:44.38 | SimonRaven | (usually ;) |
| 10:45.05 | maakud | f00d: have you as user been hacked or your server? |
| 10:45.22 | Guerin | maakud: if he's not root, he won't have any way of knowing. |
| 10:45.22 | f00d | makuud: just me, the user. i'm just one of 50 users on this server. |
| 10:45.34 | f00d | i *believe* |
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| 10:46.26 | liable | takes me back to a great old techno track.. |
| 10:46.29 | xxxpixie | what? is there really no easy way to specify that? |
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| 10:46.35 | maakud | f00d: if you are not super user you cannot (i think) change attributes of files. |
| 10:46.39 | Yiroon | liable: which one? |
| 10:46.49 | liable | i believe? |
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| 10:47.04 | EdLin | maakud: not true |
| 10:47.06 | Guerin | xxxpixie: man gcc - come on, get it together. Editing a makefile is not hard. |
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| 10:47.18 | f00d | liable: i believe it's just me, the user that has been hacked though not sure. |
| 10:47.21 | xxxpixie | i think i've been misunderstood |
| 10:47.21 | liable | Yiroon: going back to *early* 90's |
| 10:47.23 | xxxpixie | anyway |
| 10:47.28 | xxxpixie | thanks for answering |
| 10:47.29 | xxxpixie | bye |
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| 10:47.39 | SimonRaven | maakud: what? and which ones are you talking about? strange, i can use chmod and chattr just fine as a normal user |
| 10:48.17 | f00d | maakud: i see it's possible with chattr as user, but it seems no attributes have been set on these files? i just simply cannot remove them even though they have the same permissions |
| 10:48.21 | maakud | sorry. just 'touch test; chattr +i test' and it gave error message. |
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| 10:48.31 | f00d | .. the same permissions as others i *can* remove/mv |
| 10:48.36 | caphuso | Laney: f00d |
| 10:48.38 | caphuso | damn |
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| 10:48.40 | caphuso | Laney: sorry |
| 10:48.58 | SimonRaven | ooh, the exception... |
| 10:49.04 | SimonRaven | *sigh* |
| 10:49.17 | Lorvija | hey, does debian have such program that I could test if diskette works.. ie if it has badsectors or something? preferrably command line |
| 10:49.38 | Genome_host_2342 | ha |
| 10:49.39 | Genome_host_2342 | you lose |
| 10:49.43 | Genome_host_2342 | go throw pots |
| 10:49.47 | Genome_host_2342 | debian |
| 10:49.49 | Genome_host_2342 | program |
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| 10:49.50 | Genome_host_2342 | test |
| 10:49.53 | Genome_host_2342 | come one |
| 10:49.57 | Genome_host_2342 | if it WORKS |
| 10:49.59 | Genome_host_2342 | who needs to test |
| 10:50.00 | halmetti | debian installer freezes after this http://pastebin.com/366952 |
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| 10:50.04 | f00d | what this hacker has actually done i don't know. their files are -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data and so are mine but i can't touch theirs! |
| 10:50.04 | Genome_host_2342 | if it DOESN'T work |
| 10:50.05 | Guerin | Genome_host_2342: i suggest you fuck off before you get fucked off. |
| 10:50.17 | Genome_host_2342 | f00d - get read |
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| 10:50.19 | Genome_host_2342 | f00d - get real |
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| 10:50.23 | nkuttler | !ops Genome_host_2342 |
| 10:50.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Genome_host_2342 |
| 10:50.42 | Guerin | f00d: you, as a user, have www-data group privileges!!?!?!1? |
| 10:50.46 | Genome_host_2342 | f00d - you can ALWAYS touch theirs - you need to last case get a job with their ISP - get their address -and go get a baseball bat |
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| 10:50.49 | Genome_host_2342 | and THAT will solve it |
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| 10:51.01 | Guerin | f00d: you shouldn't be able to delete any of those files unless you;'re root |
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| 10:51.13 | SimonRaven | wtf - baaad crack habit there.... |
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| 10:51.22 | EdLin | !caphuso++ |
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| 10:51.42 | Guerin | or www-data |
| 10:51.44 | Dewi | re: apt... shouldn't it install dependancies before installing dependant packages? |
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| 10:52.11 | SimonRaven | Lorvija: badblocks works on any block device |
| 10:52.16 | nkuttler | Dewi: sure |
| 10:52.18 | Lorvija | SimonRaven okay thanks |
| 10:52.25 | f00d | Guerin: well it's weird. i installed a php system on this box and it created some files www-data www-data. quite weird i thought. strangely i can do what i like with these files. |
| 10:52.26 | Gathond | f00d: owning the directory the files are in might allow you to delete them |
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| 10:52.31 | Dewi | it just seems odd that today I ended up with huge numbers of packages happily upgrading, and then right at the end "by the way, udev didn't install because your kernel was old" |
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| 10:52.38 | SimonRaven | um, the dir... |
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| 10:52.59 | Egy | hello, can anyone help me with qmail setup? |
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| 10:53.03 | Dewi | surely udev should fail and halt the rest of the update |
| 10:53.05 | SimonRaven | #qmail |
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| 10:53.14 | Dewi | not have it continue on and leave my system inconsistent... |
| 10:53.15 | Egy | thanks SimonRaven |
| 10:53.16 | f00d | Gathond: hmm good thought. why isn't that reflected in the permissions for those files in the folder (that ls -l gives me)? |
| 10:53.21 | Eulex | Dewi, yeah, you should install apt-listchanges -- if you had, you would have been told |
| 10:53.40 | maakud | f00d: what is output of "id" command |
| 10:53.48 | SimonRaven | i recommend that even on stable boxen |
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| 10:54.09 | Dewi | it's bad enough that udev even allowed itself to become selected if my kernel was too old, but I'd let that slide |
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| 10:54.23 | Gathond | f00d: because you are just looking at the files at that point, the directory is another entity (im not sure how much owning the directory lets you do, perhaps only delete not actually read/write to anything) |
| 10:54.24 | Dewi | s/udev/the new udev/ |
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| 10:54.35 | f00d | maakud: just a mo |
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| 10:54.43 | SimonRaven | the maintainers can't do anything if it isn't actually on the system |
| 10:54.48 | nkuttler | Dewi: get apt-listbugs, if there is no bug and you think it should be reported, report it |
| 10:54.51 | Eulex | SimonRaven, yeah, and apt-listbugs too |
| 10:54.53 | f00d | Gathond: weird, that doesn't seem very sensible to me. |
| 10:54.55 | SimonRaven | yeh |
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| 10:55.31 | Dewi | nkuttler: how is listchanges used? I daresay the hundred or so packages I installed this morning would have a very long list of changes |
| 10:55.49 | nkuttler | Dewi: just install it |
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| 10:55.59 | SimonRaven | lists debian changelog entries |
| 10:56.01 | f00d | maakud: inside that folder, the one hackers put there i get 'uid=1601(f00d) gid=1601(f00d) skupine=1601(f00d)' |
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| 10:56.23 | halmetti | anyone knows what's wrong since debian installer freezes? http://pastebin.com/366952 |
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| 10:56.39 | lide | I have problem, my server has been using 70 days and came blackout. And then some programs not works, like my eggdrop give many erros of tcl codes |
| 10:56.42 | SimonRaven | i assume "skupine" is "groups" |
| 10:56.45 | maakud | f00d: then look at directory permissions. |
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| 10:57.43 | nibbler | I need to make a vfat partition usable as my /home directory... I can't work out what options to use in fstab for chown to work (atm I get access diened when I try to change it) |
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| 10:57.58 | nkuttler | halmetti: is that the stable installer? |
| 10:58.23 | meredydd | nibbler: From what I understand, chown will never work on vfat, because vfat doesn't support ownership. |
| 10:58.34 | nibbler | ah I see... |
| 10:58.34 | SimonRaven | f00d: well, they managed to crack your account, and may very well have been trying to escalated their privs, and frankly i wouldn't trust that host with anything until it's reinstalled / wiped fetched known good backups |
| 10:58.36 | lide | errors looks this: http://lide.lautatarha.com/egg.txt |
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| 10:58.41 | [sr] | who knows a good ipv6 host calculator?:P |
| 10:58.47 | nibbler | so I can't use a vfat partition as my /home? |
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| 10:58.56 | halmetti | nkuttler yes it's |
| 10:59.01 | SimonRaven | nibbler: why would you want that? |
| 10:59.09 | halmetti | netinst |
| 10:59.11 | nkuttler | halmetti: did you check the md5 sum of your image? |
| 10:59.13 | meredydd | nibbler: Wouldn't recommend it - it all has to be owned by one person |
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| 10:59.41 | meredydd | nibbler: You could mount your home directory (/home/nibbler) from a vfat partition, with mount options so everything's owned by you |
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| 10:59.45 | nibbler | SimonRaven, heh, to help ease the conversion of family to linux - if I can keep documents in the one place for a few weeks so dual boot still works nicely |
| 10:59.47 | f00d | SimonRaven: hmm ok thanks |
| 10:59.49 | Dewi | Eulex: my updates are going to be amazingly spammy now, aren't they? |
| 10:59.55 | halmetti | nkuttler well many times and even downloaded like 20times from different mirrors, also burned to different cd-r or cd-rw disks =) |
| 10:59.58 | maakud | nibbler. if you want files shared between doze and linux create a separated directory for that share. |
| 11:00.00 | cam^ | hi all ! I've setup a mail service on my debian, i would like to test if it can handle heavy loads ... any opensource mail "bomber" |
| 11:00.16 | halmetti | every friggin time same error, so anyone see something wrong in that? |
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| 11:00.28 | SimonRaven | nibbler: i don't see why the documents won't be the same whether they're on fat32 or jfs... |
| 11:00.29 | Eulex | Dewi, no, not particularly |
| 11:00.30 | nkuttler | halmetti: well the log is not really useful. do you know the hardware is ok? |
| 11:00.33 | nibbler | maakud, that was my original goal, though the hard drive on this specific laptop is small (the others had huge hdds so it was easy) |
| 11:00.37 | maakud | cam^: you are inviting a disaster to see if your disaster system is sound? |
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| 11:00.56 | SimonRaven | but sharing the docs is another story ... :) |
| 11:01.06 | Eulex | Dewi, it will just list critical bugs, and the most important changes |
| 11:01.12 | nibbler | I think I'll move all the documents to another pc, then partition off windows as well... then have a big chunk for documents shared between them |
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| 11:01.20 | green_earz | halmetti: did you check the image integrity from the installer ? |
| 11:01.26 | SimonRaven | @tell root__ -about root |
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| 11:01.54 | halmetti | green_earz integrity? what's that |
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| 11:02.06 | SimonRaven | nibbler: yeh. much better than having /home as fat32... eeek |
| 11:02.11 | Py | hello! |
| 11:02.14 | nibbler | also ... I'm on a compaq evo n160 and every thing is working nicely driver wise... though the battery status indicator doesn't accurately work (NA information) ... is there any tricks to get it all working? |
| 11:02.18 | Py | what's the proper clean way to change a sarge box hostname? |
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| 11:02.37 | nkuttler | Py: man hostname, /etc/hostname |
| 11:02.41 | nibbler | SimonRaven, yeah, though it will take a lot longer - and be more complicated for family :P |
| 11:02.46 | green_earz | halmetti: run a dummy install and get to the main menu of the installer and use the option " check cd integrity " |
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| 11:02.57 | meredydd | nibbler: Put a symlink in their home directory. |
| 11:02.57 | cam^ | maakud euh, i just wanna see how my system will react with multiple mails at a time :/ doing the tests locally |
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| 11:03.00 | nibbler | oh well, after this pc I'm left with no windows only pc's :P |
| 11:03.06 | nibbler | meredydd, yes I will do that |
| 11:03.18 | SimonRaven | nibbler: eh, that so much, it'll get them used to the idea of shared file storage / files servers |
| 11:03.26 | SimonRaven | nibbler: not so much, sorry |
| 11:03.42 | SimonRaven | good idea |
| 11:03.47 | nibbler | SimonRaven, they are already used to network drives and the like, just under windows :P |
| 11:03.54 | SimonRaven | ok :) |
| 11:03.59 | nibbler | smbmount will be handy too :P |
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| 11:05.17 | nibbler | thanks for your suggestions guys :D |
| 11:05.22 | halmetti | green_earz dummy install? and after it main menu of the installer? how if i'm trying to get installer to open but it freezes to that position? |
| 11:05.25 | SimonRaven | np. have fun |
| 11:05.28 | halmetti | what i pasted... |
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| 11:06.29 | halmetti | and am i understood this correct this means(RAMDISK driver initalized: 16 RAM disks of 10240K size 1024 blocksize) that i got 16mb ram? or is it something else |
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| 11:06.45 | Py | thnks nkuttler |
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| 11:07.01 | SimonRaven | that's the ramdisk the installer sets up for itself |
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| 11:07.10 | green_earz | halmetti: can you boot knoppix on the box ? |
| 11:07.21 | SimonRaven | ramdisk == ram based filesystem |
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| 11:08.21 | Dewi | Eulex / nkuttler : there do seem to be bugs filed against udev for these breakages, but the package maintainer denies they exist and I'm not sure but I think the bugs are closed |
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| 11:09.26 | kokkoo | hi ive got some spam in dmesg. these are two new hdds. i am running debian sarge. (when transferring TO server i get dma_intr: status=0x51 and dma_intr: error=0x84) these are new hdds and they are running on a 800w psu. please advice |
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| 11:09.52 | davi | What does the .la extension of a library mean ? |
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| 11:10.16 | halmetti | green_earz dunno |
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| 11:10.46 | f00d | davi: afaik it contains information about linking |
| 11:10.55 | davi | thanks f00d |
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| 11:11.12 | miag | f00d: thanks |
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| 11:11.40 | f00d | miag: umm, anytime! |
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| 11:12.27 | green_earz | halmetti: the reason to boot a copy of knoppix is just to see if the box will boot, say if konppix will not boot it more looking like a box problem. |
| 11:12.34 | Dewi | so is there some way to get apt/dpkg to stop installing/updating heaps of dependant packages where a dependancy has failed to install? |
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| 11:13.03 | Dewi | surely it can install deps first and if that fails, stop the process of installing dependants |
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| 11:16.26 | green_earz | halmetti: if knoppix dose boot check out a different media for the debian iso burn, |
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| 11:18.28 | f00d | ..i have 63 assholes currently moving warez via my server. when are these admins going to wake up.. |
| 11:18.38 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 11:18.45 | maakud | Dewi: Ctrl-c ? seriously. If the configuration of a package has failed then the dependencies will not be configured either. |
| 11:19.11 | maakud | f00d: why can you not kill the iroffer server? |
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| 11:19.36 | miag | f00d: 63? it's gnome lagno score of mine, level 3. ;) |
| 11:19.38 | f00d | maakud: no i can't. also permissions |
| 11:19.38 | Dewi | maakud: didn't happen that way this morning |
| 11:19.47 | f00d | miag: hehe |
| 11:19.55 | miag | me:63 level3: 0 |
| 11:20.01 | Dewi | maakud: all of gnome was reliant on udev, and it was "B" broken |
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| 11:20.28 | Dewi | maakud: although now that I think about it, maybe all of gnome was compatible with the previous non-broken udev |
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| 11:20.44 | Dewi | maakud: which was still present |
| 11:21.03 | maakud | Dewi: why can you not downgrade udev? |
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| 11:21.28 | Dewi | maakud: I ended up installing a new kernel so it's okay now |
| 11:21.36 | Dewi | maakud: but |
| 11:21.48 | ^buggy^ | is the ability to write to NTFS a feature of the kernel, and if so, is there a kernel out there now that lets me do it? |
| 11:21.48 | Dewi | maakud: I would be interested to know how to downgrade back to my working version should an update fail like that again |
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| 11:22.25 | kokkoo | hi ive got some spam in dmesg. these are two new hdds. i am running debian sarge. (when transferring TO server i get dma_intr: status=0x51 and dma_intr: error=0x84) these are new hdds and they are running on a 800w psu. please advice |
| 11:22.30 | Dewi | ^buggy^: I have a suspicion that current kernls have been able to do that for a while now |
| 11:22.48 | maakud | Dewi: no idea. |
| 11:22.50 | ^buggy^ | thanks dewi |
| 11:23.09 | Dewi | ^buggy^: for what? :P |
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| 11:23.19 | Dewi | ^buggy^: to be honest I haven't tried it from debian |
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| 11:23.45 | Dewi | ^buggy^: but I think it Just Worked last time I tried knoppix. I assume debian's kernels would be similar. But they might be wildly different. |
| 11:23.48 | ^buggy^ | debian (unless you're referring to the thanks, in which case it's thanks for answering the question and clearing it up) |
| 11:23.51 | meredydd | ^buggy^: Nothing can write NTFS yet, it would appear |
| 11:23.51 | Guerin | ^buggy^: ntfs write is downright dangerous. Don't use it unless you hate your data and want to lose it. |
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| 11:24.13 | Guerin | ^buggy^: and in the linux kernel it's very limited. |
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| 11:24.28 | Guerin | !captive |
| 11:24.28 | dpkg | captive is, like, The first kind of free if you squint NTFS read/write filesystem for GNU/Linux. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 11:24.39 | meredydd | There is a way to write NTFS reliably, "Captive NTFS", but it's just a wrapper around the Win drivers |
| 11:24.49 | meredydd | The others are read only |
| 11:24.56 | meredydd | (see linux-ntfs.sf.net) |
| 11:24.58 | JohnnyST | Hmm is setting up raid1 on sarge working? I can't setup it up on two identical drives. |
| 11:25.03 | maakud | ntfs write is supported at last. ... almost. |
| 11:25.41 | maakud | actually ext2fs is better supported on XP via cygwin. |
| 11:25.53 | Dewi | ^buggy^: it appears everyone disagrees with me. I'd go with their advice. :P |
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| 11:26.12 | ^buggy^ | heh. thanks everyone |
| 11:26.31 | maakud | ^buggy^: however ntfs resize works. |
| 11:26.34 | Dewi | I certainly haven't trusted my NTFS data to linux |
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| 11:26.55 | Dewi | but I did get the feeling that some people felt it was getting pretty stable now |
| 11:27.09 | green_earz | JohnnyST: check out the link for a software raid1 install using the debian installer > http://nepotismia.com/debian/raidinstall/ |
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| 11:27.25 | maakud | personally. i have rsized ntfs from linux so small that xp cannot d oanything. |
| 11:27.26 | Dewi | (I think I remember knoppix mounting NTFS drive r/w automatically without even asking me) |
| 11:27.41 | maakud | this way other users of computer have switched to linux mode. |
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| 11:27.50 | Guerin | Dewi: if that's the case, then knopper has finally gone completely insane |
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| 11:28.12 | meredydd | Dewi: That'll be Captive. |
| 11:28.19 | Yiroon | It'd be nice if ntfs write support was stable the day WinFS comes out :) |
| 11:28.30 | JohnnyST | green_earz: Ok thanks. |
| 11:28.37 | Dewi | meredydd: really? wouldn't sticking bits of windows into knoppix be seriously... illegal? |
| 11:28.40 | meredydd | IIRC recent Knoppix has native Captive support - automatically snags the DLLs off your Windows partition, if it can find them, using the old driver, and then uses those |
| 11:28.43 | green_earz | np and all the best |
| 11:28.51 | Dewi | meredydd: oh, I see |
| 11:28.54 | Dewi | meredydd: that's devious |
| 11:29.00 | meredydd | It's very clever :) |
| 11:29.24 | Dewi | still probably EULA-violating |
| 11:29.37 | Dewi | but not... obviousl illegal |
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| 11:29.42 | meredydd | No more so than WINE |
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| 11:30.26 | maakud | wine is illegal in some countries. |
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| 11:33.19 | solemnwarning | how can i make x-window-system install all of its deps? |
| 11:33.25 | Dewi | maakud: believed to maybe be in danger of being illegal, or confirmed? |
| 11:33.36 | solemnwarning | apt-get install x-window-system aint installing its deps |
| 11:33.45 | Eulex | solemnwarning, it should |
| 11:33.50 | solemnwarning | its not |
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| 11:33.54 | Eulex | solemnwarning, what is it not installing? |
| 11:33.55 | maakud | Dewi: sorry. it was joke :) even beer illegal in some countries. |
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| 11:34.08 | solemnwarning | really big list of x packages |
| 11:34.28 | solemnwarning | etch using sarge repo btw |
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| 11:34.45 | Dewi | maakud: that joke was illegal in my country. prepare to be extradited. |
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| 11:34.52 | maakud | solemnwarning: apt-get -t etch install |
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| 11:35.03 | solemnwarning | i need it from sarge |
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| 11:35.26 | Eulex | solemnwarning, it depends on x-window-system-core, lbxproxy, proxymngr, twm, xdm, xfs, xfwp, xnest, xprint, xterm, xvfb -- does it install these? |
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| 11:35.35 | solemnwarning | no |
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| 11:36.03 | maakud | solemnwarning: apt-get -t etch install x-window-system |
| 11:36.14 | solemnwarning | i need it from sarge |
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| 11:36.33 | maakud | s/etch/sarge/ |
| 11:37.01 | solemnwarning | ive already configured apt to use the sarge repo |
| 11:37.05 | Zap-W | will i go to jail if i install "testing's" package of squirrelmail ver 1.4.5 in sarge? |
| 11:37.08 | solemnwarning | but its not installing deps |
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| 11:37.43 | maakud | Zap-W: no. but you will go nuts :) |
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| 11:37.58 | maakud | Zap-W: apt-get -t testing install squirrelmail |
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| 11:38.48 | maakud | solemnwarning going to fast. you are current running testing and wanting to install x-window-system from sarge? |
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| 11:38.58 | solemnwarning | yeah |
| 11:38.59 | Zap-W | but what if it breaks , what if it breaks! |
| 11:39.04 | fbi | ehm. why not just install sarge. |
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| 11:39.23 | Zap-W | i am using sarge |
| 11:39.29 | maakud | Zap-W:then you are definitely going to jail :) |
| 11:39.31 | fbi | not you Zap-W |
| 11:39.57 | fbi | i was wondering why solemnwarning wants to use stable packages on a testing system. |
| 11:39.59 | Zap-W | maakud: you dont recommend doing it? |
| 11:40.15 | maakud | Zap-W: running install inside "script". Then uninstall all the packages that were installed. |
| 11:40.16 | solemnwarning | i need xfree86, xorg is no good |
| 11:40.44 | liable | solemnwarning: install it from your apt cache..\ |
| 11:40.56 | solemnwarning | liable: ? |
| 11:40.59 | maakud | solemnwarning: it is unusual request. pl. looking at frontports.org :) |
| 11:41.00 | hid3 | Hello everyone.. I've got an ftp server on my lan and I'd like to set up subnet-based bandwidth shaper for lan users on it (using HTB). Maybe anyone has any good how-tos/examples for such thing? |
| 11:41.05 | liable | in the cache?? |
| 11:41.07 | Zap-W | maakud: what? |
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| 11:41.42 | maakud | solemnwarning: more seriously. you can get the source of xfree86. apt-get source and compile. |
| 11:41.44 | liable | solemnwarning: you know /var/cache/apt.. |
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| 11:41.54 | liable | eww |
| 11:42.10 | fbi | solemnwarning: going back to xfree86 after installing xorg is a tedious task, unless you backed up /etc/X11 while you were still running xfree86 |
| 11:42.30 | solemnwarning | fbi: only just installed etch |
| 11:42.37 | maakud | Zap-W: two way.s first way. run "script". this will keep a record of everythin that happened while doing the squirellmail install. If it doesn;t work just uninstall all the packages. |
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| 11:42.45 | liable | the xfree config is left there, all you relly need to do is install xserver-xfree.. |
| 11:43.01 | solemnwarning | no config |
| 11:43.12 | fbi | liable: xserver-xorg needs a lot more than just the config, it also installs a new xerver-common, doesn't it? |
| 11:43.14 | solemnwarning | i need to whole x-window-system of sarge |
| 11:43.16 | Zap-W | maakud: what's the second way |
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| 11:43.37 | fbi | he would have do downgrade xserver-common as well |
| 11:43.43 | fbi | s/do/to/ |
| 11:43.44 | liable | fbi: yeah, xserver-common. |
| 11:43.46 | maakud | Zap-W: second way. touch /var/lib/dpkg/info/timestamp. after squirrelmail install does not work remove all packages with /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list later than timestamp. |
| 11:43.47 | Eulex | and lots of small things |
| 11:44.07 | fbi | solemnwarning: if you really need xfree86, i suggest a fresh sarge install |
| 11:44.24 | maakud | Zap-W: of course. if you are currently using squirrelmail sarge version then life becomes more complicated. |
| 11:44.34 | Zap-W | maakud: why |
| 11:44.34 | drac | he probably doesn't really need it, just can't fix his xorg |
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| 11:44.45 | solemnwarning | xorg wont use my video card |
| 11:44.50 | fbi | either that or he borked everything with nvidia crap |
| 11:44.55 | solemnwarning | it keeps using the onboard card |
| 11:45.03 | maakud | Zap-W: in that case you install dpkg-repack. then repack all of squirrelmail and the list of packages that its installation would upgrade. |
| 11:45.07 | drac | so, make BusID point at other card?! |
| 11:45.09 | drac | hell |
| 11:45.11 | drac | it's just one line |
| 11:45.32 | liable | hmm, is there not even xserver-xfree in etch now? |
| 11:45.37 | solemnwarning | i wish i knew where my sarge cd is |
| 11:45.44 | maakud | Zap-W: when/if installation fails. you install the repackaged packages. |
| 11:45.52 | solemnwarning | liable: thats why im using sarge repo |
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| 11:45.58 | quik | hey folks |
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| 11:46.03 | fbi | solemnwarning: just install the business card size iso |
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| 11:46.07 | fbi | it's like 40mb |
| 11:46.14 | maakud | Zap-W: perhaps my instructions are complicated. |
| 11:46.17 | quik | how can I force my resolution to 1280*1024? is there a tool to do it? |
| 11:46.18 | drac | or just add _one line_ in xorg.conf so it will use whatever card you want. |
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| 11:46.28 | fbi | quik: X resolution? |
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| 11:46.34 | solemnwarning | drac: how? |
| 11:46.42 | maakud | quik: if monitor not liking do not force or .... bang! :) |
| 11:46.43 | drac | solemnwarning: first look at "lspci -X" |
| 11:46.52 | drac | solemnwarning: You get BusID's in example, PCI:1:0:0 |
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| 11:46.54 | liable | solemnwarning: i find it difficult to believe xorg doesnt work when xfree does.. |
| 11:46.59 | Zap-W | maakud: ye, in my case the last choice is what i need ah? |
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| 11:47.06 | drac | solemnwarning: And add BusID "PCI:x:x:x" to xorg.conf's Section "Device" |
| 11:47.13 | solemnwarning | liable: xfree uses my AGP card, xorg uses onboard |
| 11:47.13 | Zap-W | i have sarge squirrelmail installed |
| 11:47.19 | solemnwarning | ok |
| 11:47.35 | liable | solemnwarning: listen to drac, he is pretty clued up with the x stuff.. |
| 11:47.35 | maakud | Zap-W: OK. so Im telling very carefully. |
| 11:47.35 | manu | How do i debianize 2.6.13.1 kernel |
| 11:47.37 | manu | ? |
| 11:47.49 | quik | xresprobe reports 1280*1024 |
| 11:48.00 | quik | and I use that monitor at that res every day already.. |
| 11:48.07 | maakud | Zap-W: first do apt-get -d install -t testing squirrelmail and record names of packages that would be upgraded. |
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| 11:48.43 | maakud | Zap-W: then dpkg-repack all those packages. little debs are being created which you must save. |
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| 11:49.13 | maakud | Zap-W: then do your apt-get -t testing squirrelmail. and test new squirrelmail. |
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| 11:49.37 | maakud | Zap-W: if lucky everything fine. otherwise. install all the debs you created with dpkg-repack |
| 11:49.50 | quik | so are there any tools that I can use to set the resolution as required? |
| 11:50.01 | maakud | quik: xvidtune. |
| 11:50.45 | quik | it sets the X11 config files etc? |
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| 11:50.51 | quik | is it GUI? |
| 11:51.06 | brench_14 | hi |
| 11:51.15 | maakud | quik: no. it is only temporary. and yes it is gui. |
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| 11:51.20 | asmodaiii | hi all folks |
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| 11:51.29 | Zap-W | maakud: do i need to add the testing "deb ..." link to /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 11:51.33 | fbi | quik: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 11:51.36 | brench_14 | hi 2 u |
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| 11:51.46 | brench_14 | cn i join? |
| 11:51.49 | manu | How do i debianize 2.6.13.1 kernel ? |
| 11:52.08 | liable | manu: what do you actually mean by that? |
| 11:52.10 | maakud | Zap-W: yes. you need that link but also remember to edit /etc/apt/apt.con and add APT::Default-Release "stable"; |
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| 11:52.21 | liable | brench_14: please speak english. :) |
| 11:52.25 | asmodaiii | manu: i dont think 2.6.13.1.deb is out |
| 11:52.31 | quik | what server driver should I use? |
| 11:52.34 | brule | im having problems upgrading to unstable |
| 11:52.53 | liable | !tell brule about sid faq |
| 11:52.59 | maakud | Zap-W: for mixed testing/stable you should make sure that *only* required packages from testing are dragged into stable. |
| 11:53.00 | ma3x | liable |
| 11:53.00 | fbi | quik: are you running xfree86 or xorg? |
| 11:53.04 | quik | nv - nVidia? |
| 11:53.04 | liable | ma3x: |
| 11:53.07 | quik | xfree, I think |
| 11:53.12 | ma3x | can you umount: /media/usb0: device is busy |
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| 11:53.20 | ma3x | i mean how can i umount it? |
| 11:53.22 | ma3x | what's using it? |
| 11:53.24 | ma3x | i've closed everything |
| 11:53.26 | maakud | quik: yes nv supports nvidia. |
| 11:53.34 | asmodaiii | <brule> im having problems upgrading to unstable << what happened? |
| 11:53.37 | liable | ma3x: lsof doesnt show whats using it? |
| 11:53.41 | drac | ma3x: fuser -v /media/usb0 show anything? |
| 11:53.42 | ma3x | liable, nope |
| 11:53.44 | brule | libc6 wont configure |
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| 11:54.04 | ma3x | drac, /media/usb0 root kernel mount /media/usb0 |
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| 11:54.24 | drac | ma3x: nothing else? no pid's? |
| 11:54.24 | maakud | ma3x: occasionally happens with usb device. be patient can take about 5 minutes. |
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| 11:54.32 | ma3x | drac, nope, no pids |
| 11:54.34 | asmodaiii | :/ is your /etc/apt/sources.list ok? |
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| 11:54.39 | asmodaiii | apt-get update |
| 11:54.42 | asmodaiii | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:54.46 | brule | yep |
| 11:54.47 | ma3x | maakud, i already wait 2 hours |
| 11:54.48 | drac | ma3x: and you are not in that directory? :P |
| 11:54.48 | asmodaiii | :/ |
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| 11:54.52 | ma3x | drac, nope |
| 11:54.54 | brule | it's a clean install |
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| 11:54.58 | quik | how can I work out the video card's BUS identifier? |
| 11:54.59 | brule | and then it says |
| 11:55.08 | liable | quik: leave it empty |
| 11:55.09 | drac | quik: Leave it empty, if it's only card in your machine. |
| 11:55.10 | fbi | quik: just hit Enter if you don't know |
| 11:55.20 | ma3x | drac, i got |
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| 11:55.21 | ma3x | i got it |
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| 11:55.25 | quik | same with ram etc |
| 11:55.27 | quik | ? |
| 11:55.28 | ma3x | i had one img file mounted from that drive |
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| 11:55.37 | fbi | you need to know how much ram your video card has on-board |
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| 11:55.41 | brule | "inetd: stopping.../var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst: line 423: 2670 Illelgal instruction sleep 2 |
| 11:55.41 | riv3t | Hi |
| 11:55.45 | drac | quik: yeah, only i810 intel chip and some old matrox card needs to spesify ram |
| 11:55.51 | riv3t | how do I change the ip address for eth0 ? |
| 11:55.52 | ma3x | thanks |
| 11:55.54 | drac | quik: autodetection should be good |
| 11:55.59 | brule | ifconfig |
| 11:56.02 | fbi | drac: you don't need to enter anything for a radeon there? |
| 11:56.03 | riv3t | when I do ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 |
| 11:56.06 | riv3t | and reboot |
| 11:56.08 | drac | fbi: nope |
| 11:56.09 | asmodaiii | what distrib did you install? sarge? |
| 11:56.14 | fbi | hah. i always have anyway |
| 11:56.14 | maakud | brule: you are in serious trouble. |
| 11:56.16 | riv3t | I goes back to 192.168.0.2 |
| 11:56.20 | riv3t | :/ |
| 11:56.21 | brule | haha |
| 11:56.26 | brule | I should just reinstall? |
| 11:56.27 | brule | ;) |
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| 11:56.34 | asmodaiii | :-) |
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| 11:56.52 | riv3t | so how do I set the ip so it stays when I reboot? |
| 11:57.02 | brule | is there a hostname.eth0 |
| 11:57.07 | maakud | riv3t: ifconfig settings not preserved on reboot. Please to edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:57.08 | brule | like in other unixes |
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| 11:57.10 | brule | ahh |
| 11:57.14 | asmodaiii | riv3t: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:57.15 | brule | my bad :// |
| 11:57.20 | riv3t | cheers |
| 11:57.33 | brule | ugh |
| 11:57.34 | brule | that sucks |
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| 11:57.44 | liable | riv3t: man interfaces, man ifconfig, /usr/share/ifupdown/examples/ |
| 11:57.54 | brule | I was trying to go from woody->unstable |
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| 11:58.00 | liable | eww |
| 11:58.03 | quik | do I need to restart after running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
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| 11:58.16 | solemnwarning | drac: ive edited config and x wont start |
| 11:58.17 | maakud | brule: when taking such a long step always make sure rope attached! :) |
| 11:58.29 | asmodaiii | maakud: 1+ |
| 11:58.31 | fbi | quik: restart X, yes |
| 11:58.32 | maakud | brule: too late. |
| 11:58.33 | solemnwarning | ive uploaded xorg.conf to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
| 11:58.34 | brule | i should get something newer then? |
| 11:58.37 | liable | quik: no, just x, ctrl+alt+back |
| 11:58.44 | asmodaiii | brule: sarge or etch |
| 11:58.45 | drac | solemnwarning: moment |
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| 11:58.56 | brule | I just used what I already had |
| 11:58.57 | brule | hah |
| 11:58.58 | brule | :) |
| 11:59.08 | asmodaiii | but its too old :/ |
| 11:59.30 | drac | solemnwarning: It's wrong. It's BusID "PCI:1:0:0" |
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| 11:59.37 | brule | are there security releases for unstable |
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| 11:59.39 | solemnwarning | erm |
| 11:59.39 | riv3t | Okay |
| 11:59.39 | maakud | brule: your best bet i(in order to avoid re-install) is to install libc6 "by hand". |
| 11:59.41 | solemnwarning | drac....... |
| 11:59.44 | liable | brule: no |
| 11:59.45 | brule | or is unstable patched directly |
| 11:59.46 | riv3t | I have the network working |
| 11:59.48 | fbi | whoa is it even possible to upgrade from woody to sid? |
| 11:59.51 | solemnwarning | PCI:1:0:0 is my onboard |
| 11:59.56 | asmodaiii | brule: SID |
| 11:59.58 | riv3t | now how do I share the internet connection? |
| 12:00.00 | drac | solemnwarning: Ok, so what is your non-onboard? |
| 12:00.04 | riv3t | both computers are running debian |
| 12:00.15 | drac | solemnwarning: lspci, paste me that line. where is your non-onboard |
| 12:00.15 | solemnwarning | according to lspci its 0000:01:00.0 |
| 12:00.15 | liable | riv3t: ipmasq or similar |
| 12:00.16 | asmodaiii | riv3t: man iptables :-) |
| 12:00.24 | riv3t | :( |
| 12:00.29 | asmodaiii | lol |
| 12:00.31 | riv3t | I'm not good at man pages |
| 12:00.32 | drac | solemnwarning: 0000:01:00.0 is 1:0:0 |
| 12:00.43 | riv3t | But I'll give it a go |
| 12:00.48 | maakud | fbi: brule has taken the bold step of finding out for us. and the answer is no :) for us :( for brule. |
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| 12:00.54 | asmodaiii | go to seek on board |
| 12:01.00 | solemnwarning | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 741/741GX/M741 Host (rev 03) |
| 12:01.05 | solemnwarning | oops |
| 12:01.07 | solemnwarning | dammit |
| 12:01.13 | solemnwarning | hold on |
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| 12:01.31 | drac | solemnwarning: 0000:00:00.0 is not same as 0000:01:00.0, PCI:1:0:0 |
| 12:01.34 | fbi | he probably could have upgraded woody to sarge, and then sarge to sid though... |
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| 12:01.59 | ma3x | with K3b I get this error : i Some filenames should be shortened due to the 64 char restriction of the J..., what should I do? |
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| 12:02.31 | solemnwarning | drac: |
| 12:02.33 | solemnwarning | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) |
| 12:02.42 | drac | solemnwarning: That's PCI:1:0:0 |
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| 12:03.03 | solemnwarning | but PCI:1:0:0 comes out on onboard |
| 12:03.18 | theD3viL | Which program to p2p ? |
| 12:03.20 | Eulex | ma3x, change the fs settings to one that allows longer filenames |
| 12:03.36 | ma3x | Eulex, do you know which one? |
| 12:03.50 | ma3x | Eulex, maybe generate UDF structures? |
| 12:03.56 | fken | hello, does anyone know if there is a free software GNU/GPL about philately? |
| 12:04.01 | drac | solemnwarning: Post your log somewhere? brb. |
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| 12:04.24 | lide | Here was blackout and server dropped and then i tried start my eggdrop bot but it give error from tcl. error: http://lide.lautatarha.com/egg.txt |
| 12:04.25 | Eulex | ma3x, maybe -- there should be descriptions of them |
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| 12:05.28 | fken | or does anyone know where i could meet someone who can solve my question ? |
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| 12:05.39 | ma3x | Eulex, now it's showing the same error but with 103 chars |
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| 12:05.53 | quik_ | right, the display doesn't appear to work now |
| 12:06.12 | quik_ | not the screen being dead, but it just doesn't work, must be out of range |
| 12:06.21 | quik_ | what was that config command again? |
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| 12:06.36 | fbi | quik_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 12:06.45 | Eulex | ma3x, ok, I dunno, I was gonna install k3b and check myself, but some kde stuff seems to be b0rked in testing |
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| 12:07.58 | quik_ | anyway to stop X from init when botting the machine? |
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| 12:08.11 | quik_ | I can get to a grub command, but thats about it, no bash |
| 12:08.22 | CosmoDad | ok this has been bugging me since ever: every now and after I upgraded my box, X takes over a minute to show KDM. On a later major upgrade, it returns to the normal latency of about 3-5 seconds. |
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| 12:08.29 | CosmoDad | what could cause this behavior? |
| 12:08.34 | fbi | quik_: you mean you *don't* want your system to boot straight into a graphical login screen? |
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| 12:08.58 | fbi | i don't understand what you are asking |
| 12:09.15 | quik_ | I do, but seeing as the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 command left me with a video mode that isn't working properly..? |
| 12:09.17 | Eulex | !nodm quik_ |
| 12:09.23 | Eulex | hmm |
| 12:09.25 | Eulex | !nodm |
| 12:09.25 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 12:09.52 | RichiH | Eulex: !tell foo about bar |
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| 12:10.15 | Eulex | RichiH, I know |
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| 12:13.26 | quik_ | right, cool.. I'll try again ;-) |
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| 12:13.49 | ma3x | how can I burn filenames with K3b about 120 chars? |
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| 12:14.37 | fbi | 120 characters? why can't you just do something ridiculous like rename them. |
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| 12:16.53 | quik_ | yay, X is running again |
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| 12:17.34 | ma3x | can you give me an example how to zip everything in a folder? |
| 12:17.34 | ma3x | like zip file.zip destination/* ? |
| 12:17.37 | quik_ | is there some kind of server software to configure things like ftp, sshd and all those kinds of tools? like a stand out one that is |
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| 12:18.17 | fbi | ma3x: man zip ? |
| 12:18.29 | malicia | Hi everybody :). I'm a bit confused here. I have compiled a kernel to boot via the network ( using a .config file from a working netbootble kernel) and after using mknbi and I tried booting it I just can't. It says that the nfsroot is missing in someway.(I have booted with other kernel just fine) Do you guys have a idea what I might be doing wrong? |
| 12:18.45 | riv3t | how do I share my dialup connected from 192.168.0.1 > 192.168.0.2 ? |
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| 12:20.12 | herfo | riv3t: use ip masquerading |
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| 12:20.30 | rhalff | hi is it possible to compile an extra module for the kernel, without rebuilding the entire kernel ? |
| 12:20.37 | rhalff | I need an extra soundcard driver |
| 12:20.47 | riv3t | herfo, can I msg you for specific assistance? |
| 12:20.52 | quik_ | my debian install has apache2 installed.. which was a default package for when I selected web server |
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| 12:21.03 | herfo | riv3t sure |
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| 12:21.17 | quik_ | when I hit localhost in the browser on that local machine, it takes quite a LONG ASS TIME to go to the default apache page |
| 12:21.20 | herfo | rhalff u sure can |
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| 12:21.22 | quik_ | is this a common thing? |
| 12:21.34 | rhalff | herfo, how :) do you know any docs on how to do this ? |
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| 12:21.38 | herfo | rhalff: just make sure you have the kernel headers for your specific version |
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| 12:22.19 | rhalff | herfo, I just download the kernel source tree and then activate the module, and then how to compile only that module ? |
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| 12:22.59 | Incubus | wat kind of OS in linux is good for begginers? can any1 suggest? |
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| 12:23.20 | riv3t | Incubus, Use Windows XP |
| 12:23.25 | rhalff | Incubus, maybe slackware :) |
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| 12:23.27 | riv3t | thats good for beginners :p |
| 12:23.32 | riv3t | Or Mandrake |
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| 12:23.44 | Incubus | r u joking XP? |
| 12:23.45 | Incubus | hehe |
| 12:23.56 | Incubus | ic.. |
| 12:24.01 | riv3t | You asked a silly question. |
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| 12:24.17 | riv3t | Check out Mandrake Linux if it's you're first time using *nix. |
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| 12:24.58 | Incubus | sory coz im jst a noob |
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| 12:26.01 | orchid | it isnt a stupid question at all |
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| 12:26.03 | herfo | rhalff i am not sure 100% of the specifics |
| 12:26.10 | ircdevil | what is the name of the file with the X11 color namess ? |
| 12:26.17 | riv3t | Incubus, Linux is a multi-user open source OS. |
| 12:26.21 | CosmoDad | is there anything I must take care of when switiching from xfree86 to xorg? |
| 12:26.31 | CosmoDad | or a website listing relevant points... |
| 12:26.41 | herfo | rhalff i've done it before in my case with a specific module.c (part of donald becker's ethernet adapter modules) and it had example of how to do it, the nvidia modules also have examples |
| 12:26.44 | riv3t | It takes a fair bit of time to learn and familiarise yourself with the commands. |
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| 12:27.09 | Incubus | ok |
| 12:27.15 | herfo | rhalff but u dont need to have the whole kernel source tree, just the headers for your exact kernel version u are currently running (if you want to load the module into that running kernel) |
| 12:27.57 | herfo | rhalff then the module code will use the kernel headers to compile it into a .o then u can go ahead and load it etc |
| 12:28.00 | rhalff | Incubus, I would really suggest slackware here is the book http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html and the site is here http://www.slackware.org, at least you are kinda forced to know the basic commands then. |
| 12:28.04 | riv3t | herfo look in pm |
| 12:28.10 | riv3t | :p |
| 12:28.20 | rhalff | herfo, ok thanks, will try that then. |
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| 12:28.37 | Incubus | ok.. tnx rhalff |
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| 12:29.06 | rhalff | herfo, I think the way debian builds kernels is somewhat more complex then the normal way :) |
| 12:29.14 | Mugsy_ | How can I run a GUI program as root? |
| 12:29.23 | herfo | riv3t: sorry i cannot privmsg due to spamming or something, my nick is registered |
| 12:29.31 | riv3t | Mugsy_ why do you want to do that? |
| 12:29.44 | riv3t | you have to register your nick |
| 12:29.46 | ircdevil | Mugsy_: xhost + as user to disable control |
| 12:29.48 | riv3t | then you can |
| 12:30.01 | fken | hello i installed libmpcdec3 but i dunno how to read a mpc file |
| 12:30.22 | riv3t | herfo: did you register you're handle? |
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| 12:30.57 | ircdevil | ah, /etc/X11/rgb.txt |
| 12:31.06 | herfo | riv3t nah mate |
| 12:31.16 | secher | Heyas all, I'm trying to do a build of e17, and am running into problems. Yes, I know I should be asking on #e, however, there's no one answering, and google is giving me nothing. I'm getting - configure:6359 /lib/cpp -I/usr/local/include conftest.cc <crlf> cc1plus: error: invalid option `tune=i486` <crlf> configure:6365: ?$ - 1 <crlf> configure: failed program was: <crlf> | /* confdefs.h. */ any ideas? I've been be |
| 12:31.16 | riv3t | register it |
| 12:31.19 | herfo | riv3t join #ipmasq |
| 12:31.23 | riv3t | Okay |
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| 12:33.06 | nvz | secher: just because the people in the other channel don't answer doesnt mean you can ask here. not to mention that message was cut short on most peoples clients as they have limits |
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| 12:33.29 | fken | see ya |
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| 12:34.10 | herfo | rhalff its actually easier: check out the docs on ummm |
| 12:34.51 | herfo | kernel-package |
| 12:34.59 | rhalff | ok thanks herfo |
| 12:35.25 | secher | nvz: Thanks for the help, I appreciate the kind words. |
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| 12:35.46 | PEACEYALL` | hi |
| 12:35.57 | sobersabre | hid3, guys... I've got a strange problem. UDP packets get lost. |
| 12:36.00 | sobersabre | hmm |
| 12:36.08 | PEACEYALL` | how do i disable a daemon from starting at boot? |
| 12:36.10 | sobersabre | completion completed hi to hid3 |
| 12:36.10 | Mugsy_ | marcel: QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used |
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| 12:36.18 | PEACEYALL` | i want to disable mysqld from starting at boot |
| 12:36.23 | granden | Anyone ehre who have got s-video to work on there nvidia card? |
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| 12:36.27 | noble- | can anyone give me the name of a web browser built into debian? |
| 12:36.28 | granden | I need help |
| 12:36.45 | nvz | secher: its way off-topic you asked about compiling random code from the internet in a channel for debian |
| 12:37.02 | Gathond | noble-: define build in, mozilla, firefox, galeon, links, lynx, w3m and more are included |
| 12:37.07 | nvz | dpkg, test |
| 12:37.07 | dpkg | No, nvz, you're not online any more. |
| 12:37.28 | noble- | well, I'm trying to access some webpages from my shell and I can't seem to get anything with lynx, or mozilla |
| 12:37.30 | nvz | I asked you to tell me what the latest version of enlightenment was like 4 minutes ago fool |
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| 12:37.41 | noble- | says command not found |
| 12:37.49 | Gathond | noble-: mozilla is X only |
| 12:37.50 | PEACEYALL` | can anyone help |
| 12:37.51 | PEACEYALL` | ? |
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| 12:38.02 | Gathond | noble-: so install it? its in the online archives and the CD set |
| 12:38.05 | noble- | I tried lynx too |
| 12:38.05 | nvz | Enlightenment 1:0.16.7.2-1 (sid) |
| 12:38.06 | Mugsy_ | This is what I get when I try to setup my printer: Unable to load the requested driver: Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Brother-HL-5040,hl1250]. Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation. |
| 12:38.08 | secher | nvz: are you speaking to me when asking about the latest version of E? |
| 12:38.15 | Gathond | noble-: if by included you mean always there then there are none I think |
| 12:38.18 | nvz | secher: no I was asking the bot |
| 12:38.29 | Mugsy_ | Im not root, do you think thats the problem? |
| 12:38.34 | nvz | secher: latest version in debian is 1:0.16.7.2-1 (sid) |
| 12:38.43 | Mugsy_ | How can I give a user permission to load drivers? |
| 12:38.50 | secher | nvz: I think it's slick as can be, I just want to try 17. |
| 12:39.14 | noble- | do you know if I can use apt-get to download and install lynx |
| 12:39.18 | Mugsy_ | Or how do I make a user a super user |
| 12:39.20 | manu | How do i debianize 2.6.13.1 kernel ? |
| 12:39.24 | nvz | secher: the error seems to be related to the specification of an invalid arch its a problem to be taken up with the upstream developers |
| 12:39.25 | manu | How do i debianize 2.6.13 kernel ? |
| 12:39.28 | Gathond | noble-: you can |
| 12:39.29 | fbi | noble-: of course you can |
| 12:39.33 | dvs | !tell manu -about kp |
| 12:39.57 | noble- | ok, I've been away from linux for awhile, so I'm trying to get back up to speed |
| 12:39.59 | Gathond | noble-: althoug I prefer elinks myself |
| 12:40.17 | fbi | Mugsy_: man su, man sudo |
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| 12:40.36 | secher | nvz: the utility on 16.7 has not changed from earlier versions, still useful as hell, and imho superior to everything else. Kk.. I'll hit up #e more. just was hoping someone here has encountered the same hassle here.. |
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| 12:41.25 | noble- | can you give me an example of what the command would be for using apt-get to download/install a web browser, I've tried apt-get lynx, apt-get mozilla, etc |
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| 12:41.45 | dvs | noble-: Try "apt-cache search lynx" first |
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| 12:41.56 | secher | nvz: and please don't call me fool, I'm neither a noob nor lazy, and undeserving of derision. |
| 12:41.58 | pkern | noble-: And it's apt-get install <pkgname> |
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| 12:41.59 | jmmv | hi |
| 12:42.03 | noble- | I only have one monitor, so I'm using SSH to control debian from my main pc |
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| 12:42.14 | fbi | noble-: you really should read the man page for apt-get, it does a lot more than just install packages |
| 12:42.18 | huanghai | quit |
| 12:42.23 | dvs | !quit |
| 12:42.24 | dpkg | try /quit |
| 12:42.24 | jmmv | do I have to do anything special to install gnome under unstable? some packages seem to be missing |
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| 12:42.56 | nvz | secher: I've done no such thing. You are just projecting insecurities |
| 12:43.01 | riv3t | jmmv, use Blackbox |
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| 12:43.09 | dvs | jmmv: it's probably in an uninstallable state right now. |
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| 12:43.40 | jmmv | riv3t no, I know what I want to use (and fwiw I'm in ion right now) |
| 12:43.43 | jmmv | dvs: ok |
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| 12:43.54 | secher | nvz: you called me fool, and projection has nothing to do with it. Nevermind, forget I said anything, this is not the place or the time. |
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| 12:44.16 | fbi | he was talking to the bot, jackass |
| 12:44.35 | jmmv | dvs I see that, e.g., libsoup2.2-{dev,dbg} are available, but not the library itself |
| 12:44.48 | noble- | thanks guys, I'm getting it now |
| 12:44.56 | nvz | secher: I did no such thing |
| 12:44.56 | herfo | anyone know how to get md to auto start on boot up with debian? :-) |
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| 12:45.20 | herfo | all the array elements are returning perfect state, active but the md0 device itself is not |
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| 12:45.58 | gromgull | i've just done an install through a running gnoppix cd... when I try to apt-get a new kernel in my chroot'ed installation I get: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd neither /dev/fd or /proc/self/fd exists |
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| 12:46.07 | secher | ok, perhaps I misread something. again, nevermind, and my apologies, |
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| 12:46.26 | nkuttler | herfo: it should... /etc/init.d/mdadm iirc |
| 12:46.41 | gromgull | proc is mounted, but there is nothing there... |
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| 12:47.00 | hid3 | How can I flush all `tc` rules? |
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| 12:47.11 | herfo | nkuttler: well init.d/mdadm and mdadm-raid read /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf but yea its not coming up automatically and not producing any errors |
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| 12:47.39 | noble- | is there a shortcut for logging in as root, from a normal user account? basically, so I don't have to exit my ssh shell everytime I need more permissions |
| 12:47.52 | fbi | noble-: man su, man sudo |
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| 12:48.27 | herfo | nkuttler: the only discrepancy i can see may be it, compared to docs is that im using whole devices not partitions, ie- /dev/sd[a-d] not /dev/sd[a-d]1 ; ARRAY="/dev/md0" devices="/dev/sd[a-d]" |
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| 12:48.48 | noble- | fbi, thanks |
| 12:48.51 | nkuttler | herfo: can you mount it manually? |
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| 12:49.33 | herfo | well i aint got that far yet, i can't do mdadm -D or -Q or -E /dev/md0 after reboot |
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| 12:50.07 | Mugsy_ | What do I need in order to set up a SMB printer? |
| 12:50.15 | herfo | i have to "mdadm -C /dev/md0 -l5 -x0 -n4 /dev/sd[a-d]" after every reboot |
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| 12:52.05 | riv3t | herfo! |
| 12:52.06 | secher | ls |
| 12:52.13 | secher | dpkg test |
| 12:52.13 | dpkg | No, secher, you're not online any more. |
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| 12:55.20 | noble- | hmm, things have changed |
| 12:55.23 | noble- | which is good |
| 12:55.52 | gromgull | I'm trygin to install grub... but grub-install /dev/hda says "Could not find device for /boot" |
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| 12:57.12 | Zugschlus | I need to have an expression which is true whenever two address lists share at least a common address. Any idea how to do this? |
| 12:57.16 | Zugschlus | argh, sorry |
| 12:57.19 | Zugschlus | wrong channel |
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| 12:59.09 | Skaag | where do I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in Debian so that it is in effect system-wide? |
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| 12:59.41 | sobersabre | guys.... i have a problem with UDP |
| 12:59.51 | Skaag | sobersabre: you don't like it? |
| 13:00.00 | sobersabre | 2 scenarios are inspected: 1. packets are sent, but on the server side not processed, and then suddenly ( after a very long while they are processed) |
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| 13:00.10 | sobersabre | scenario 2: No packets at all |
| 13:00.27 | sobersabre | I have ran now a netcat attempt of many zeroes via UDP. |
| 13:00.35 | sobersabre | client sent. server got NADA |
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| 13:00.48 | sobersabre | I suspect the switch. |
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| 13:00.58 | Skaag | sobersabre: sounds like something that happened to me a long time ago, it's probably the switch or router |
| 13:00.58 | Dewi | sobersabre: how many did you send? |
| 13:01.09 | sobersabre | 1 Megabyte... |
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| 13:01.23 | sobersabre | Skaag, what was the reason ? |
| 13:01.44 | Skaag | sobersabre: misconfigured router |
| 13:01.56 | Skaag | that was in my scenario... may not be the same. |
| 13:02.00 | sobersabre | Skaag, I am under internal switch in non routed net block... |
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| 13:02.24 | Skaag | interesting |
| 13:02.37 | Skaag | what if you connect a crossed cable between the two machines? |
| 13:02.50 | sobersabre | Skaag, I cannot do this.. |
| 13:02.57 | Skaag | remote setup? |
| 13:03.01 | sobersabre | no. |
| 13:03.07 | sobersabre | JS20 |
| 13:03.15 | Skaag | wazaat? |
| 13:03.28 | sobersabre | blade servers. |
| 13:03.31 | Skaag | oh |
| 13:03.37 | sobersabre | yep. |
| 13:03.52 | Skaag | hm. |
| 13:03.52 | gromgull | where do the /boot/grub/stageX files come from in debian? they were not in the grub package... |
| 13:03.57 | sobersabre | so what was wrong with the router the other time ? |
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| 13:04.12 | Skaag | you have an alternate FIO for the switch? |
| 13:04.17 | fbi | Skaag: you can use /etc/profile for system-wide environment variables |
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| 13:04.23 | Skaag | fbi: thanks |
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| 13:04.43 | fra | hi all |
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| 13:04.48 | sobersabre | Skaag, no currently. |
| 13:04.55 | sobersabre | only 1 switch. |
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| 13:05.15 | sobersabre | Skaag, but what was the misconf in the router ? |
| 13:05.22 | fra | anyone has a gmail account invitation to spare? |
| 13:05.36 | fra | seems like I'm the only one not having an account there :-/ |
| 13:05.40 | fbi | isn't gmail available to the public now? |
| 13:05.46 | fbi | i have like 99 invites if you need one |
| 13:05.47 | fra | fbi: nope |
| 13:05.53 | Skaag | sobersabre: some CISCO setting, maybe MTU or I don't know what else it was... I think it was something to do with their loop discovery thing |
| 13:05.57 | fra | yes, if you can |
| 13:05.59 | fbi | give me your email address |
| 13:06.20 | Skaag | I have 100 invites as well, for some reason |
| 13:06.26 | Skaag | on both my accounts |
| 13:06.47 | fbi | fra wait, i had msgs off |
| 13:06.54 | fbi | try again |
| 13:07.08 | Skaag | sobersabre: You know switches now have this feature where they can discover if a cabling loop exists |
| 13:07.42 | Skaag | Eulex: I guess they really expanded their systems, if the quota is now 2.6gb and I can invite 100 people on each account ;-) |
| 13:07.45 | noble- | damn, is gmail spamming or what? |
| 13:08.03 | Skaag | no way |
| 13:08.07 | Skaag | I never got mail from gmail |
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| 13:09.17 | manu | How do i debianize 2.6.13 kernel downladed from kernel.org |
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| 13:09.31 | manu | I need to apply the debian patches |
| 13:09.37 | noble- | oh, I was jking, I don't even know what gmail is |
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| 13:10.19 | sobersabre | Skaag, so what about that feature ? |
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| 13:11.16 | fra | I can't send private messages, oh well :-/ |
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| 13:11.27 | fbi | fra: register your nick |
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| 13:11.39 | fra | for the invite: my email is fra@fra1.ath.cx |
| 13:12.00 | fbi | fra: sent |
| 13:12.02 | Dewi | just kidding. |
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| 13:12.04 | manu | How do i debianize 2.6.13 kernel downladed from kernel.org I need to apply the debian patches |
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| 13:12.16 | fra | fbi: thks very much fbi |
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| 13:12.25 | fbi | no problem |
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| 13:12.32 | fbi | not like i need '99' invites |
| 13:12.41 | fra | eheh |
| 13:12.42 | fbi | i don't even use this account |
| 13:12.43 | ady | iiijm |
| 13:12.49 | ady | ffhhgkjdfhgkd |
| 13:12.54 | noble- | seems like gmail is free to the public now |
| 13:13.12 | Blissex | manu: with the kernel package maker? |
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| 13:13.48 | Blissex | noble-: GMail is a scheme to attach real names to cookies and IP addresses... Very clever. |
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| 13:14.33 | Blissex | noble-: put another way it is a way to correlate web server logs with 'From:' and 'To:' lines. |
| 13:14.41 | mooniT0R | gez |
| 13:14.58 | noble- | yeah I was just reading about it, cool |
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| 13:15.47 | manu | Blissex: So how do i do it apply debian patches to 2.6.13 |
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| 13:15.53 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 13:16.10 | mooniT0R | any one eard about swap_linux ? |
| 13:16.13 | Blissex | manu: you get those for 2.6.12 and hope they ''just work''. |
| 13:16.16 | noble- | what's the best way to configure security on a newly-installed debian system? |
| 13:16.18 | tombs | just a simple question: is it possible to burn a dual layer dvd using k3b? |
| 13:16.33 | noble- | best == most efficient/easy |
| 13:16.34 | Blissex | noble-: define ''security'' in less than 10,000 words :-) |
| 13:16.39 | noble- | lol |
| 13:16.50 | noble- | basic security I guess |
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| 13:17.09 | Blissex | noble-: let's call it ''not doing obviously unsafe things'' more than ''security''... |
| 13:17.19 | mooniT0R | is a state of mind |
| 13:17.24 | noble- | yeah |
| 13:17.26 | mooniT0R | :-) |
| 13:17.27 | Blissex | noble-: well, there are several simple _precautions_ you can take... |
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| 13:17.41 | noble- | I guess I was referring more to obvious exploits, or possible patches/installs |
| 13:17.44 | cradze | hello |
| 13:17.46 | Gathond | security is a simple matter, just remove the network cable and its secured:) |
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| 13:17.48 | Blissex | noble-: like installing the ''harden'' packages and monitors like 'tiger'. |
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| 13:18.09 | cradze | i am a new linux user |
| 13:18.13 | Blissex | Gathond: not as simple as that -- parasitic radiation is like broadcasting on WiFi :-). |
| 13:18.26 | manu | Blissex: Where do i get patches for 2.6.12 |
| 13:18.27 | manu | ? |
| 13:18.27 | cradze | anybody who wants to help me? |
| 13:18.36 | noble- | I'm just running a little box on my network for fooling around, practicing shell scripting, etc.. (i'm bored) |
| 13:19.05 | noble- | so it's on a router, I'm not running any servers from it (that I know of), besides ssh for my controlling purposes |
| 13:19.12 | Blissex | cradze: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask better questions. |
| 13:19.18 | Mugsy_ | What extention do printer drivers have? |
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| 13:19.29 | noble- | so I just need to take the basic precautions, as I don't want it being compromised and used for something malicious |
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| 13:19.31 | Blissex | noble-: as I was saying, install the various 'harden-*' packages and 'tiger' |
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| 13:19.53 | noble- | Blissex, I'll check those out, thanks ;) |
| 13:19.58 | Blissex | noble-: then consider installing a simple firewall package. |
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| 13:20.33 | Blissex | Mugsy_: well, perhaps '.so' or '.ppd', but under GNU/Linux there are really no ''printer drivers'' as such. |
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| 13:20.46 | noble- | since I'm the only one accessing it and there's no webservers, mail, etc. It should theoretically be simple enough to secure |
| 13:20.53 | EdgEy | ... anyone know why when i mount a filesystem to any folder it seems to change the permissions |
| 13:20.55 | noble- | this is your cue to laugh |
| 13:20.58 | gromgull | hmm... can grub not boot from ext3? |
| 13:21.01 | Blissex | manu: the 2.6.12 patches are in a very obviously named package youcan just install. |
| 13:21.29 | Blissex | EdgEy: You see the permission of the root directory of the mounted filesystem. |
| 13:21.48 | EdgEy | the filesystem is read only |
| 13:22.02 | Blissex | EdgEy: and this changes what? |
| 13:22.06 | EdgEy | so i can't change it once it's mounted.. before it's mounted anyone can access the folder, after it is noone can |
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| 13:22.16 | EdgEy | argh i'm a noob |
| 13:22.31 | mooniT0R | *CliCK* #trance *ClicCK* |
| 13:22.38 | EdgEy | hold on i'll try and paste it somewhere to show what i mean |
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| 13:23.07 | Dewi | mooniT0R: that makes you look a lot like a spam bot |
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| 13:23.30 | henke | noble-, did somebody already point you to the securing debian howto? |
| 13:23.34 | mooniT0R | im a boot . . . |
| 13:23.38 | Gathond | EdgEy: if its a fat or NTFS filesystem the permissions need to be configured at mount time as options for mount, see man mount under the actual filesystem for the specific options to each |
| 13:23.46 | noble- | henke, no |
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| 13:24.04 | maakud | Mugsy_, Blissex: cups and foomatic are reasonable complete as a print system. Has web-based configuration as well. http://localhost:631/ |
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| 13:24.27 | Blissex | EdgEy: pointless to paste |
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| 13:24.30 | henke | noble-, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
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| 13:24.38 | maakud | mooniT0R: if you are a boot. then shoe. |
| 13:24.39 | Blissex | EdgEy: what you describe is exactly how things are supposed to work. |
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| 13:24.45 | noble- | henke, thanks |
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| 13:25.08 | mooniT0R | @ |
| 13:25.20 | manu | Blissex: Where do i get patches for 2.6.12 |
| 13:25.24 | Blissex | EdgEy: when you mount a filesystem on a directory, the top directory of the filesystem ''overrides'' the mount-on directory |
| 13:25.32 | ExitMenu | lo I am about to install Debian , having previously used Fedora Core and Gentoo are there any big differences that people can give me a heads up on |
| 13:25.33 | maakud | gromgull: grub can boot from ext3. it just thinks of it as ext2! |
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| 13:25.45 | Blissex | EdgEy: so the mount-on directory and the mounted directory can have different permissions. |
| 13:25.46 | EdgEy | Blissex, ah |
| 13:25.52 | EdgEy | i'm looking at man mount now |
| 13:26.09 | gromgull | maakudi : hmm... i get all sorts of odd errors when installing it and it doesn't boot :( |
| 13:26.16 | Blissex | EdgEy: usually, the mount-on directory should be read-only, and the mounted directory should be writable. |
| 13:26.23 | fbi | ExitMenu: yes, Debian doesn't suck. |
| 13:26.26 | mooniT0R | im gona try out T2 |
| 13:26.28 | maakud | ExitMenu: welcome. There are differences but like siblings. |
| 13:26.38 | halmetti | how to make that floppy installer to boot correct? =) |
| 13:26.45 | fbi | ExitMenu: Debian's package management is superior to both of those. |
| 13:26.50 | maakud | ExitMenu: as you can see from fbi. sometimes the siblings fight. |
| 13:27.03 | ExitMenu | lol |
| 13:27.24 | ExitMenu | its ok each distro has its fanboys / fangirls |
| 13:27.25 | maakud | maakudi: strange. ext3 is just ext2 with journal. |
| 13:27.35 | EdgEy | is umask=550 the same as chmod 550 folder |
| 13:27.37 | fbi | unless of course, you like watching KDE compile |
| 13:27.38 | fbi | for six hours. |
| 13:27.39 | halmetti | as it founds boot record but NTDLR is missing =/ |
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| 13:28.10 | Blissex | manu: 'apt-cache search debian kernel patch' will list things that might interest you |
| 13:28.19 | ExitMenu | fbi while gentoo may take a very long time to compile the big packages it does not keep you in the house, you can go out and do other thn |
| 13:28.26 | ExitMenu | ings while its running lol |
| 13:28.28 | timo | EdgEy, no. man 2 umask |
| 13:28.39 | gromgull | so it's probably a differnet problem... |
| 13:28.39 | EdgEy | i have that open now, quite confusing. :( |
| 13:28.40 | mooniT0R | u really a fed ? |
| 13:29.04 | mooniT0R | Wow |
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| 13:29.07 | Blissex | ExitMenu: the biggest differences are perhaps the 'update-...' packages and of course the enormous number of APT related commands. |
| 13:29.09 | sts | hello folks |
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| 13:29.25 | ExitMenu | kewl I will read up on thouse ta |
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| 13:30.51 | granden | Anyone who can help me with my TV-Out I dont get any picture on the TV |
| 13:31.02 | sts | I installed horde with imp, kronolith and turba and it installed horde2 and horde3. is this a bug, or correct behavior? |
| 13:31.15 | mooniT0R | some one help me find my glasses |
| 13:31.16 | gromgull | hmm... Do I NEED a separate partition for /boot? |
| 13:31.22 | gromgull | can it not just be on the / partition? |
| 13:31.28 | granden | it can |
| 13:31.42 | vogon | it can indeed |
| 13:31.51 | fbi | gromgull you can do it either way, if you only have / you need to make sure it's marked as bootable |
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| 13:32.27 | mooniT0R | any one using TOR ? |
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| 13:32.44 | sts | brbr |
| 13:32.49 | sts | brb |
| 13:33.00 | gromgull | fbi: that is one VERY good point... |
| 13:33.11 | Blissex | granden: consider reading on how to ask questions http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 |
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| 13:33.40 | Blissex | gromgull: a '/boot' partition is not needed _except_ to work around BIOS limitations |
| 13:33.42 | sts | anybody in who knows horde? |
| 13:33.55 | mooniT0R | what questions to ask ? |
| 13:34.00 | Blissex | sts: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions... |
| 13:34.06 | Barnes | How do i get my debian to work with nvidia card? |
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| 13:34.23 | Blissex | Barnes: depends what you mean by ÂŦto work withÂŧ |
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| 13:34.30 | charolastra | Barnes: you install the nvidia drivers ... |
| 13:34.34 | gromgull | barnesi, download the NVIDIA linux drivers |
| 13:34.39 | gromgull | and follow the instructions... |
| 13:34.46 | Barnes | and how do i install them? |
| 13:34.47 | sts | Blissex, Barnes: ok sorry |
| 13:34.51 | Blissex | gromgull: thats not necessarily a good idea. |
| 13:34.53 | halmetti | hmm |
| 13:35.06 | mooniT0R | whats the hord like ? |
| 13:35.10 | gromgull | why not? |
| 13:35.12 | halmetti | kernel panic, while trying to install sarge from floppies |
| 13:35.25 | charolastra | Barnes: reading some documentation will get you far in life |
| 13:35.30 | Barnes | if i startx now it says Fatal server error no screens found |
| 13:35.36 | Zap-W | halmetti: lo nora |
| 13:35.44 | Barnes | i have read the whole internet soon |
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| 13:35.56 | Blissex | gromgull: because if he does not need 3D accelt the builtin drivers are a lot easier, and if he does using precompiled 'deb's with the propriterary drivers is a lot easier than the NVIDIA installer. |
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| 13:36.12 | Zap-W | i must make a system backup |
| 13:36.17 | CoesPost | Barnes: look in your /var/log/XFree86.0.log for the reasons behind your errors |
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| 13:36.27 | Barnes | i have looked there |
| 13:36.29 | Blissex | Barnes: so do you need 3D acceleration or is it just a case of getting the X GUI to start? |
| 13:36.31 | Zap-W | when is the right time to make a backup |
| 13:36.39 | Blissex | Zap-W: all the times... |
| 13:36.40 | granden | Is there any good tutiroal/guide on how to get the TV-OUT to work on a nvidia card? |
| 13:36.42 | halmetti | Zap-W? |
| 13:36.43 | Dewi | Zap-W: before your system crashes |
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| 13:36.53 | abcd__ | Can anyone help me adding a command somewhere so it will autostart at boot |
| 13:36.59 | Blissex | granden: no, there isn't really, but there are several bits here and there. |
| 13:37.03 | Barnes | Blissex all i want is to get x and the gui to start atm |
| 13:37.24 | Dewi | Zap-W: I guess it might be best to take one when system load is low so as to avoid snapshotting half-complete transactions |
| 13:37.26 | Blissex | granden: have a look for example at a simple example here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ |
| 13:37.44 | Blissex | Barnes: then what you need to do is to generate a suitable X configuration. |
| 13:37.50 | znx | abcd__: update.d ... or similar |
| 13:37.55 | znx | i forget |
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| 13:38.13 | Sirrow | hello, somebody can help me, i've some problems with my internet conection (labtop) |
| 13:38.14 | Blissex | Barnes: there are several programs that will generate one for you. Debian has a special one which is 'dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server' |
| 13:38.16 | Barnes | Blissex ok i have tried it but it dosent work |
| 13:38.16 | Zap-W | yes, it isnt really necessary backing up everything ah? , just /etc/ /boot /var is enouth no? |
| 13:38.19 | fbi | it's update-rc.d |
| 13:38.21 | Dewi | Barnes: one possible hint from my experience - if you're attempting to use framebuffer, stop doing that |
| 13:38.37 | znx | ty fbi i knew it was close :) |
| 13:38.38 | Blissex | Barnes: but you can also use 'xf86config' or 'xf85cfg' for example. |
| 13:38.42 | Barnes | i have tried both with and whit out |
| 13:38.49 | fbi | abcd__: what 'command' are you trying to start at boot |
| 13:38.57 | Blissex | Barnes: or you can use one of the sample configs here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/X11/ and modify it. |
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| 13:39.03 | abcd__ | its a program, the ventrilo server |
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| 13:39.11 | Blissex | Barnes: or you can try to be more specific as to ''does not work''. |
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| 13:39.49 | Barnes | Blissex it says "fatal server error no screens found fatal IO error 104 |
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| 13:40.11 | Dewi | Barnes: any warnings or errors before that? |
| 13:40.27 | Blissex | Barnes: that simply means you haven't given the right values for the monitor or the graphics card. |
| 13:40.45 | Blissex | Barnes: also try 'X -configure' |
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| 13:40.59 | Barnes | Dewi faled to load module "nvidia" and no drivers found |
| 13:41.04 | abcd__ | fbi, do you know how I do it? |
| 13:41.07 | Zap-W | dpkg -l is enouth to make a record of all packages installed? |
| 13:41.10 | dpkg | No packages found matching is enouth to make a record of all packages installed |
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| 13:41.19 | Blissex | Barnes: the NVIDIA driver is called 'nv', not 'nvidia'. |
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| 13:41.39 | Blissex | Zap-W: yes, there is also a specific FAQ about that. |
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| 13:41.52 | fbi | abcd__: i don't know what that is or how you installed it, read the man page for update-rc.d |
| 13:41.52 | Zap-W | Blissex: where? |
| 13:41.53 | Barnes | Blissex ok some page said nvidi |
| 13:41.54 | Barnes | a |
| 13:42.03 | Duke_Nuke | how can i see the options that the debian developer had used to "./configure --..." a package? |
| 13:42.10 | Blissex | Zap-W: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ should have it. |
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| 13:42.32 | charolastra | hm, i just tried an apt-get update and end up with "Failed to fetch http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release.gpg Bad header line" |
| 13:42.35 | Blissex | Duke_Nuke: usually you cannot unless you download the source package and look into its Debian config file. |
| 13:42.38 | charolastra | whats going on with apt? |
| 13:42.47 | Zap-W | Blissex: but dpkg -l lists everything yes? |
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| 13:43.08 | Blissex | Zap-W: yes, with some output format limitations. |
| 13:43.12 | Zap-W | what you mean |
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| 13:43.18 | Blissex | Zap-W: try it :-) |
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| 13:43.25 | Zap-W | looks good |
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| 13:43.28 | Blissex | Zap-W: or read the docs... |
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| 13:43.38 | Zap-W | it looks good to me |
| 13:43.51 | Blissex | Zap-W: then it is fine :-). |
| 13:44.01 | Duke_Nuke | Blissex, ok, i've downloaded the src package, i must search the "config" file? (the name is exactly "config"?) |
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| 13:44.07 | Blissex | Duke_Nuke: no. |
| 13:44.12 | TecnoVM64 | hello everybody, i have a little problem with debian right now, apt-get is stuck on installing e2fsprogs but seems like it can't |
| 13:44.15 | Zap-W | what switches to pass for cp , for doing backups? |
| 13:44.16 | Zap-W | cp -a? |
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| 13:44.19 | Sirrow | i have configure ifconfig and route but my internet connection still not work, when i ping on the routeur or on a local machine or on the DNS of my provider it's ok but i can't go on internet. a solution ? |
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| 13:44.40 | charolastra | TecnoVM64: what happens if you do a apt-get update? |
| 13:44.41 | Blissex | Zap-W: 'cp -a --sparse=auto' may be better. |
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| 13:44.47 | Duke_Nuke | Blissex, so, what i must search? |
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| 13:44.57 | TecnoVM64 | charolastra: E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
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| 13:45.08 | charolastra | hmm |
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| 13:45.21 | gromgull | has anyone ever had grub do NOTHING at boot? It claims to install fine when I run "grub", (root, setup)... |
| 13:45.26 | mohkohn | Hi. I just installed Debian From Scratch. Everything seems good except sound. |
| 13:45.36 | Zap-W | Blissex: what does --sparse=auto do? |
| 13:46.01 | charolastra | TecnoVM64: maby try to dpkg -r it |
| 13:46.04 | mohkohn | When I modprobe snd_intel8x0 FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 not found.FATAL: Error running install command for snd_intel8x0 |
| 13:46.18 | sander | do I get the debian stable release.. when downloading the debian iso from linuxiso.org?.. and is the 2.6.x kernel included in that release? |
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| 13:46.21 | TecnoVM64 | charolastra: This is an essential package - it should not be removed. |
| 13:46.28 | TecnoVM64 | :/ |
| 13:46.30 | fbi | mohkohn: what kernel did you install with |
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| 13:46.40 | mohkohn | fbi 2.6.11 |
| 13:46.45 | Blissex | Duke_Nuke: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html |
| 13:46.46 | fbi | testing? |
| 13:46.52 | mohkohn | my card Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) |
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| 13:47.01 | mohkohn | stable |
| 13:47.15 | Blissex | Zap-W: 'man cp' might help |
| 13:47.16 | charolastra | TecnoVM64: hmm, i have my own issues with apt now; it doesn't want to update and complains about "Bad header line" |
| 13:47.25 | fbi | i thought sarge installed the 2.6.8 |
| 13:47.26 | TecnoVM64 | ah :( |
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| 13:47.31 | mohkohn | But it was the Custom Debian from Scratch cd |
| 13:47.36 | fbi | oh |
| 13:47.39 | fbi | never mind |
| 13:47.49 | fbi | i need coffee, back later |
| 13:48.08 | mohkohn | Enjoy your caffiene |
| 13:48.20 | noble- | I only ask this because it will be easier (for me) than searching through documentation. What is the command for switching a program to the background, back and forth. Like if I'm running bitchx and I want to switch it to background (staying connected), then recall it later |
| 13:48.47 | Blissex | noble-: ^Z (usually) and 'fg'/'bg' |
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| 13:49.04 | sander | which release is "Debian 3.0r4"? |
| 13:49.08 | noble- | Blissex, many thanks |
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| 13:49.18 | meredydd | Or, if you want to stay connected (^Z will cause buffers to fill up), use "screen" |
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| 13:49.26 | mohkohn | sander I think woody |
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| 13:49.44 | Blissex | noble-: there is an introduction to the shell including job management here: http://tille.xalasys.com/training/tldp/ |
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| 13:49.55 | sander | mohkohn, aint sarge.. debian's stable release theese times? |
| 13:49.57 | meredydd | to start a virtual terminal, which you can then leave with ^A d, and resume with screen -r |
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| 13:50.16 | EdgEy | it is woody |
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| 13:50.21 | Blissex | sander: Sarge is 3.1 |
| 13:50.22 | noble- | thanks guys, trying to get back into the swing of things |
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| 13:50.32 | hid3 | for shaping from my ftp server I used "tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip u32 match ip dst xxxxxxx flowid 1:20" command. However, there are other services on that machine which don't need traffic being shaped. What must I change in that rule so the shaping applies only for ftp (21) port? |
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| 13:50.36 | sander | Blissex, okay... |
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| 13:50.43 | mohkohn | thats right sander I think 3.0r4 was the final woody release. Sarge is 3.1 . Could someone correct me if wrong |
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| 13:50.50 | sander | but the question is.. does woody include a 2.6.x kernel? |
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| 13:51.13 | Blissex | sander: not as such, there are backports. |
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| 13:51.52 | Blissex | hid3: if you are trying to do that kind of stuff and you cannot answer that question yourself, danger danger. |
| 13:51.54 | sander | well.. I want the easiest solution with getting a 2.6.x kernel.. and I dont like backports.. then I want to compile my own kernel instead |
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| 13:52.05 | mohkohn | I am starting to wonder if upgrading to testing fix my sound. |
| 13:52.13 | Blissex | sander: nice backport is much better than doing your own. |
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| 13:52.33 | noble- | holy |
| 13:52.41 | p8r_ | Hi, i just switched to udev from devfsd and have severe problems finding/creating a cdrom drive in /dev. (testing/ppc) |
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| 13:52.44 | Blissex | mohkohn: almost surely not. Leave testing alone for anohter 6 months to a year while it semi-stabilizes. |
| 13:52.53 | sander | Blissex, okay.. but cant I use sarge.. for a production server? |
| 13:52.57 | Blissex | mohkohn: rather read the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 |
| 13:53.12 | halmetti | hmm what i should do for this http://pastebin.com/367043 ? |
| 13:53.26 | Blissex | sander: Well, Sarge right now is much better than Woody for a production server, after all Sarge is the officially maintained edition. |
| 13:53.42 | mohkohn | thanks I will look Blissex |
| 13:53.49 | sander | Blissex, yes.. thats what I was wondring about.. |
| 13:54.05 | p8r_ | i heard that there are some bugs in udev concerning cdroms, has anyone else had this experience? |
| 13:54.06 | sander | Blissex, but where can I get the latest iso for sarge? |
| 13:54.20 | ma3x | when I zip, I get this error File size limit exceeded |
| 13:54.27 | ma3x | how can I tell zip to archive those big files? |
| 13:54.34 | ma3x | I didn't find anything in man zip |
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| 13:55.06 | Skaag | anyone here knows how to make /usr/lib/paxtest/execstack work under grsecurity? ;-) |
| 13:55.42 | Blissex | sander: there are _very many_ places where to get Sarge ISOs. The download section of Debian.org lists them. I recommend using BitTorrent or RSYNC to get ISOs, as they checksum the images as they get downloaded. |
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| 13:56.00 | Blissex | ma3x: bad news. |
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| 13:57.01 | pandrew | Hello. I am using debian sarge, and the icewm window manager. How can i change my kayboard layout to hungarian? |
| 13:57.12 | sander | Blissex, ok.. thx.. i'll do that |
| 13:57.20 | madscienitit | hmm |
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| 13:57.49 | Blissex | pandrew: you need to reconfigure the X server to have a default hungarian layout, thats the best way. |
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| 13:58.04 | sander | wow.. I see there is 14 cd's.. which ones is recommended to download of them? |
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| 13:58.09 | sander | only the first one? |
| 13:58.23 | Blissex | pandrew: however even better is to change your non X console layout to hungarian, and then X will take that as a hint. |
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| 13:58.29 | pandrew | Blissex - i don't want the hungarian to be default, i want it to be changeable.... |
| 13:58.37 | Blissex | pandrew: alternatively you can do it every time from X using 'setxkbmap' |
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| 13:58.52 | Blissex | sander: the last N are for sources. |
| 13:58.56 | charolastra | any idea on how i can finde out when a package got installed through apt? |
| 13:59.09 | Blissex | sander: and the packages are in the CDs in ''popularity order''. |
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| 13:59.45 | Blissex | sander: so usually only the first one is essential. The first two-three usually have all that most want for a GUI too. |
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| 13:59.52 | Blissex | charolastra: yes. |
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| 14:00.16 | sander | Blissex, ok.. I only need the first one then.. |
| 14:00.34 | Blissex | sander: most likely. Then you can add things online. |
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| 14:00.53 | Blissex | sander: but I would get the second too, just in case. |
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| 14:01.27 | charolastra | Blissex: so, how? |
| 14:01.28 | sander | Blissex, I'm not going to set up a grafical interface |
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| 14:01.37 | sander | Blissex, why's that? |
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| 14:02.05 | Blissex | sander: but the second disc is not just about GUIs. Remember, the package are listed in popularity order, and many people don't necessarily install server :-). |
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| 14:02.31 | EdgEy | popularity order eh |
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| 14:02.45 | EdgEy | so if noone ever used x11 it'd end up falling off cd1 |
| 14:02.48 | EdgEy | :) |
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| 14:03.09 | Gathond | EdgEy: yes |
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| 14:03.18 | EdgEy | :D |
| 14:03.31 | blastmanu | hi |
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| 14:03.37 | blastmanu | comment traduiriai vous "plusieurs forme de discrmination" en anglais ? |
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| 14:03.52 | Gathond | blastmanu: english please |
| 14:03.54 | steve938 | hi guys, i had a crash and now many of the apps get segmentation fault. is there a way to find out what's causing it or which libs should i try to reinstall first? |
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| 14:04.22 | Gathond | steve938: strace and/or gdb can probably help you to determine where it segmentation faults |
| 14:04.27 | asg | steve938: did you fsck your filesystems? |
| 14:04.30 | steve938 | yep |
| 14:04.36 | steve938 | fsck says everything is ok |
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| 14:04.46 | sander | Blissex, okay.. but I can add things I need later.. I dont need that many programs for a start. :-) |
| 14:04.46 | steve938 | is there a way to force a check? |
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| 14:04.56 | asg | steve938: touch /forcefsck ; reboot |
| 14:05.01 | blastmanu | How to traduct you "plusieurs formes de discrimination" in encglish ? |
| 14:05.02 | Gathond | steve938: no need if it cleared it already |
| 14:05.05 | EdgEy | how can i get out of x without it restarting |
| 14:05.11 | EdgEy | :/ |
| 14:05.12 | steve938 | weird thing |
| 14:05.20 | asg | EdgEy: Ctrl+F1 |
| 14:05.28 | steve938 | i had >=$1.3.... in dpkg's available file |
| 14:05.30 | Blissex | blastmanu: "many types of discernment/choices/discrimination'' |
| 14:05.35 | Gathond | steve938: fsck would only check the consistency of the filesystem thoug, if any filecontent has been corrupted it wont fix that |
| 14:05.38 | steve938 | $ in front of the number |
| 14:05.43 | steve938 | and other weird stuff like that |
| 14:05.52 | fbi | asg: wouldn't shutdown -Fr now do the same thing? |
| 14:06.01 | steve938 | read di $dir instead of readdir($dir) in File Path of perl libs |
| 14:06.07 | pandrew | ok, i tried setxkbmap, it works well, thank you. I only have one more question - how can i xchange the z and y characters? |
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| 14:06.16 | charolastra | Blissex: thank you for beeing an asshole .... |
| 14:06.17 | asg | fbi: yes, there's more than one way to do it ;) |
| 14:06.27 | Gathond | EdgEy: close whatever login manager (kdm, gdm ..) that keeps restarting it then logout |
| 14:06.31 | halmetti | installing sarge from floppies and i get this error http://pastebin.com/367043 |
| 14:06.47 | hashar | hello there ) |
| 14:06.54 | steve938 | do i just ran an app like strace appname? |
| 14:06.59 | steve938 | and wait for it to crash? |
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| 14:07.12 | Gathond | steve938: basically:) |
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| 14:07.27 | Gathond | steve938: is it random crashes? or is it the same place every time? |
| 14:07.28 | asg | halmetti: how much memory does that machine have? |
| 14:07.42 | steve938 | Gathon: yeah, about fsck, that's the problem. it fixed the inode counts and other stuff, but i guess a lot of file data got corrupted |
| 14:07.50 | steve938 | Gathon: random |
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| 14:07.57 | halmetti | and with netinst cd images i get this http://pastebin.com/366952 |
| 14:08.00 | Blissex | charolastra: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on suggestions on how to ask questions. And how to be more patient. |
| 14:08.03 | steve938 | aptitude crashes after 5 or 6 runs |
| 14:08.03 | Gathond | steve938: then I would test the systems memory |
| 14:08.06 | hashar | i got a problem with installing linux-image-2.6.12 , it requests udev >= 0.063 , and udev require kernel 2.6.12 so I am in an unresolvable dependencie loop :/ |
| 14:08.06 | blastmanu | ok merci |
| 14:08.08 | Zap-W | most mobos today have option to power up the computer from LAN no? |
| 14:08.10 | steve938 | firefox crashes too |
| 14:08.31 | Blissex | hashar: entirely your fault for dealing with the devil's packages. |
| 14:08.32 | steve938 | Gathon: it just started happening after a file system crash |
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| 14:08.40 | hashar | p; |
| 14:08.47 | asg | Zap-W: many do (look for wake-on-lan in the bios) |
| 14:08.52 | rnN | hashar, haha. Here have this error too. I was trying to do a update and udev just works with 2.6.12 >=, but my kernel is 2.6.11 :T |
| 14:08.54 | Gathond | steve938: in general if it was some library that is corrupted it would happen at every call of the corrupted function |
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| 14:09.17 | hashar | rnN> i guess it s just some unstable stuff so ) |
| 14:09.17 | steve938 | Gathon: yeah, i just reinstalled a few. maybe that will help |
| 14:09.24 | noble- | hmmm |
| 14:09.28 | steve938 | Gathon: rsync seems to be working now |
| 14:09.38 | steve938 | Gathon: i want to back up all my stuff before doing anything else |
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| 14:09.44 | rnN | hashar, i just changed the lines of source.list for "sarge" |
| 14:09.52 | asg | halmetti: if that machine has only 16M of ram, you won't be able to install sarge |
| 14:09.54 | Gathond | steve938: I would let the machine run the complete memtest86 suite for a while (long while) and have it confirm the memory is good anyways |
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| 14:10.11 | Zap-W | asg: wake-on-lan isnt this for waking up only from standby state? |
| 14:10.17 | steve938 | Gathod: do you think bad memory could cause a file system crash? |
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| 14:10.38 | Gathond | steve938: bad memory can cause just about anything, if you are unlucky enough |
| 14:11.00 | Gathond | steve938: think random bits of data shifting values in memory |
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| 14:11.03 | steve938 | Gathon: yeah, i had some reall weird stuff here |
| 14:11.04 | mohkohn | Anybody know what may cause these during a kernel compile? |
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| 14:11.08 | asg | Zap-W: it may also just boot the machine. If you power the machine down, you should still see link lights on the nick. That should allow you to force the box to boot regardless. |
| 14:11.08 | mohkohn | make[3]: *** [arch/i386/kernel/cpu/intel.o] Error 1 |
| 14:11.08 | mohkohn | make[2]: *** [arch/i386/kernel/cpu] Error 2 |
| 14:11.08 | mohkohn | make[1]: *** [arch/i386/kernel] Error 2 |
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| 14:11.28 | Blissex | hashar: I have stopped using 'hotplug' and 'udev' long ago... |
| 14:11.37 | Gathond | steve938: if you are lucky stuff crashes, if you are unlucky it will run but make random errors in your data |
| 14:11.38 | steve938 | Gathon: how long would a memtest take on 1.5g? |
| 14:11.43 | Blissex | hashar: and then you use 'unstable' as you noticed. |
| 14:11.48 | meandrain | elirips |
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| 14:12.01 | Blissex | steve938: about 8-10 hours at least -- you need it to run _many_ times. |
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| 14:12.09 | Gathond | steve938: depends on the machine, but probably long, it runs several tests (it does run them in a loop though, so it wont as such finish) |
| 14:12.38 | steve938 | is it ok to use the box at that time or should it be run in a single user mode? |
| 14:12.38 | hashar | Blissex> well i use testing and some packages from unstable :) |
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| 14:12.51 | Gathond | steve938: memtest86 is something you boot:) |
| 14:13.01 | Gathond | steve938: so the machine cant do anything else at the time |
| 14:13.06 | Blissex | hashar: do you also like to stab your hand with fork to check how it feels? |
| 14:13.12 | steve938 | Gathon: oh, i see |
| 14:14.17 | Gathond | steve938: only real way to test memory, as you cant test memory if something else uses it |
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| 14:14.17 | steve938 | Gathon: yeah, i get it. |
| 14:14.18 | Blissex | hashar: at the beginning of a release cycle 'unstable' and especially 'testing' are a mess, especially as there are several ABI transitions going on at the same time... |
| 14:14.18 | H0ld | Hello for everybody! |
| 14:14.18 | steve938 | Gathon: i think it's just my old 3ware playing tricks on me |
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| 14:14.35 | steve938 | Gathon: but with memtest are we talking 20 minutes long or 20 hours long? |
| 14:14.35 | hyardley | how do you get an added hard drive to mount on boot? fstab and mtab seem okay |
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| 14:14.36 | Blissex | steve938: 3ware stuff is wonderful, the memory is more likely to cause trouble. But do update the 3ware firmware... |
| 14:14.46 | hyardley | bios recognizes hdd |
| 14:14.46 | Blissex | steve938: at least overnight (8-10 hours). |
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| 14:14.57 | steve938 | Blissex: that sucks |
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| 14:15.02 | Blissex | hyardley: partition and format the partitions. |
| 14:15.04 | Eulex | hyardley, remove noauto |
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| 14:15.10 | Blissex | steve938: it sucks indeed. |
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| 14:15.43 | H0ld | Iīm having problems to probe the sb audigy. anyone can help me? |
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| 14:15.54 | hyardley | Blissex: data is on there, and i can manually mount it |
| 14:16.05 | Blissex | steve938: when memory sizes got above 32MB/64MB everybody should have switched to ECC motherboards and sticks, that cost only a very little more than unchecked memory. But the market is made of utter morons. |
| 14:16.10 | hyardley | Eulex: will do, removing noauto |
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| 14:16.17 | Blissex | hyardley: then do as Eulex says... |
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| 14:16.22 | mohkohn | If I do "modprobe snd_intel8x0" and it is not there does it mean I need to compile the kernel? |
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| 14:16.38 | Blissex | mohkohn: if you use a Debian kernel it is there. |
| 14:16.41 | halmetti | asg machine got 384mb ram |
| 14:16.46 | hyardley | gawd that was easy, how |
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| 14:17.01 | asg | halmetti: what type of machine is it? |
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| 14:17.15 | Zap-W | does anyone know of any common packages that keep configuration files in /usr/share ? |
| 14:17.17 | steve938 | Blissex: will i be able to know which of the dimms is bad by using memtest? |
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| 14:17.53 | Blissex | charolastra: BTW, the easiest way to check install times is to look at the 'c' file time of the relevant files in '/var/lib/dpkg/info/' |
| 14:18.07 | halmetti | asg i386, 384mb ddr ram, 8gb hdd, 16mb voodoo3, 450mhz amd k6-2 |
| 14:18.16 | charolastra | Blissex: thanks |
| 14:18.22 | Blissex | steve938: yes, it gives the faulty address, and then tere is a little util that computes the DIMM number. |
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| 14:18.27 | asg | halmetti: because the error you pasted showed '14M LOWMEM' available which doesn't sounds right. You might need to pass a mem= option to the boot kernel. |
| 14:18.41 | Blissex | asg: that is a very old machine... |
| 14:19.02 | asg | Blissex: agreed (better than my gateway though) :) |
| 14:19.03 | steve938 | could somebody please tell me what you got in /var/lib/dpkg/available on line 11047? |
| 14:19.12 | hyardley | Eulex: noauto, currently isn't an entry |
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| 14:19.32 | asg | steve938: /msg dpkg available (to fix it if you have corruption) |
| 14:19.42 | Blissex | however I agree that trying 'mem=384M' might be a good try. |
| 14:19.53 | maakud | charolastra: ls -altr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list |
| 14:20.10 | Lilldude | has any bok linksys speed boster router |
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| 14:20.19 | asg | Lilldude: ENOPARSE |
| 14:20.20 | EdgEy | -.- |
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| 14:20.32 | Blissex | asg: basically LOWMEM is the memory that can be accessed directly by DMA without bounce buffers. On an ISA machine that is indeed the memory below 16MB IIRC. |
| 14:20.37 | azeem | s/any bok/anybody a/ |
| 14:20.38 | Lilldude | wht enoparse mean? |
| 14:20.38 | azeem | I guess |
| 14:20.48 | pandrew | -topic |
| 14:20.50 | charolastra | maakud: yes, thanks |
| 14:20.50 | asg | Blissex: right |
| 14:20.52 | azeem | Lilldude: please rephrase your question, we did not undestand |
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| 14:21.06 | asg | Lilldude: it means we haven't a clue what you just said. Please rephrase it in the form of a question. |
| 14:21.07 | EdgEy | if i apt-get linux-source where does it go to? -.- |
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| 14:21.19 | kilojoule | Hello |
| 14:21.22 | Lilldude | i gota liksys speed booster id like to maybe isnstall linux firm ware |
| 14:21.26 | maakud | EdgEy: /usr/src |
| 14:21.28 | solemn-laptop | how can i make nvidia actually work under debian with a custom kernel |
| 14:21.32 | EdgEy | ok, thanks |
| 14:21.34 | Blissex | maakud: charolastra: thats almost OK, but that lists the last modified time of the '*list' files, which is the time when the apckage was _made_ not installed. To see when the package was installed you need to look at the ctime, with option 'c'. |
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| 14:21.43 | asg | solemn-laptop: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 14:21.50 | solemn-laptop | already tried |
| 14:21.53 | h3xis | i just recompiled my kernel (same kernel version as before) and before i did this i had nvidia drivers installed and working but now after i boot into the recompiled kernel they don't work. do i need to reset something? |
| 14:21.57 | solemn-laptop | IT ONLY WORKS WITH KERNELS FROM APT |
| 14:22.02 | Blissex | EdgEy: usually in '/usr/src' :-) |
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| 14:22.16 | maakud | Blissex: actually the *list files are created at installation time. |
| 14:22.27 | EdgEy | :P nvidia drivers seem to want the source for some reason |
| 14:22.33 | Blissex | maakud: Ahhhh, that would work then. |
| 14:22.34 | EdgEy | not sure if this is gonna work but meh |
| 14:22.49 | kilojoule | Hello, I'm trying to update my kernel in debian sarg to 2.6.x, I was wondering if anyone has a good guid or How To |
| 14:22.54 | solemn-laptop | how can i make debian work with nvidia like other distros do? |
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| 14:23.08 | asg | kilojoule: apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install one from the list presented.) |
| 14:23.08 | Blissex | EdgEy: yes. But if you use a Debian kernel you can use precompiled NVIDIA '.deb's for most versions. |
| 14:23.20 | asg | solemn-laptop: it does, use a debian kernel image. |
| 14:23.26 | solemn-laptop | why? |
| 14:23.31 | halmetti | asg tnx alot now i finally figured it out =) |
| 14:23.32 | solemn-laptop | custom kernels run faster |
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| 14:23.46 | asg | solemn-laptop: boot faster yes, run faster no. |
| 14:24.05 | Blissex | solemn-laptop: I suspect that if you think that custom kernels run faster you need a lot more reflection and experience... :-) |
| 14:24.07 | EdgEy | Blissex where would i get those? |
| 14:24.13 | solemn-laptop | how can i make debian actually use a nvidia driver like other distros do? |
| 14:24.17 | halmetti | ffs i'm stupid, there was "memory hole" on bios what was 14-15mb, so it was maeby the problem, now i got that installer to work =) |
| 14:24.20 | asg | !nvidia one-liner |
| 14:24.20 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 14:24.33 | asg | halmetti: :) |
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| 14:24.42 | solemn-laptop | THAT ONLY WORKS WITH APTS |
| 14:24.47 | EdgEy | ouch now i gotta copy that all out :D |
| 14:24.50 | halmetti | that memory hole is now disabled and installer started |
| 14:24.51 | maakud | solemn-laptop: really! starting faster != running faster. running faster != running longer. it is said that Real Men Have Stamina :) |
| 14:24.52 | asg | solemn-laptop: then ask #nvidia |
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| 14:25.01 | asg | solemn-laptop: we only support debian kernel images here |
| 14:25.04 | asg | !custom kernel |
| 14:25.04 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
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| 14:25.10 | solemn-laptop | http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html and none of that is any use either |
| 14:25.15 | dawg | solemn-laptop, it works fine even without a debian image.. |
| 14:25.20 | steve938 | should i use memtest86 or memtest86+? |
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| 14:25.24 | kilojoule | thanks asg |
| 14:25.24 | Blissex | EdgEy: in the 'non-free' repositories, or for the latest and greatest: http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/ |
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| 14:25.59 | EdgEy | hold on, will that work with xorg |
| 14:26.09 | EdgEy | the nvidia one-liner that is |
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| 14:26.53 | dawg | solemn-laptop, otherwise download nvidia-kernel-source and use make-kpkg, install deb and celebrate |
| 14:27.00 | fken | see ya |
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| 14:27.11 | solemn-laptop | dawg: already tried |
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| 14:27.30 | solemn-laptop | Modprobe: module "nvidia" not found |
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| 14:27.55 | ma3x | hi |
| 14:27.58 | ma3x | how can i rar a folder? |
| 14:28.01 | ma3x | rar -a folder? |
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| 14:28.08 | dawg | solemn-laptop, tried what? kernel-source and make-kpkg? |
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| 14:28.21 | solemn-laptop | yes |
| 14:28.26 | maakud | solemn-laptop: please reading docs on module-assistant and kernel-package. |
| 14:28.31 | streuner | ma3x: why not just use tar? |
| 14:28.34 | dawg | solemn-laptop, did you install the deb that was created of the module? |
| 14:28.41 | solemn-laptop | yes -_- |
| 14:28.45 | streuner | !tell ma3x about tar |
| 14:28.47 | charolastra | so whome should i contact if apt-get fails for my offizial local apt mirror but works for others? (the error is "Bad header line" since updating apt) |
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| 14:28.53 | ma3x | streuner, because I want to archive zip or rar for some guy with windows |
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| 14:29.03 | ma3x | i know tar |
| 14:29.04 | streuner | ma3x: man zip |
| 14:29.13 | ma3x | streuner, I know zip, it's having some problems |
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| 14:29.17 | Blissex | EdgEy: ÂŦwill that work with xorgÂŧ if you are 'unstable' you are on your own... |
| 14:29.19 | shingouz | ma3x: use zip in that case and lart the windows luser for using rar |
| 14:29.20 | ma3x | when I zip, I get this error File size limit exceeded |
| 14:29.30 | maakud | charolastra: perhaps your local mirror admin. |
| 14:29.39 | streuner | ma3x: what kind of file? |
| 14:29.41 | kilojoule | is there a command to see what kernel your running? I'm looking for the version |
| 14:29.50 | ma3x | shingouz, this guy has some rar's in the files, so it's giving me that error |
| 14:29.51 | streuner | kilojoule: cat /proc/version |
| 14:29.53 | dawg | solemn-laptop, then maybe you should do a dpkg -c foo.deb and see what files are in it and make sure it's all in order |
| 14:29.58 | ma3x | streuner, all kind of files (win stuff) |
| 14:30.04 | kilojoule | thanks streuner |
| 14:30.14 | shingouz | war3z.... or pr0n :p |
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| 14:30.22 | ma3x | I don't know |
| 14:30.27 | Blissex | ma3x: most MS Windows archive programs can do 'tar' |
| 14:30.31 | ma3x | some kind of photos |
| 14:30.37 | ma3x | and java progs |
| 14:30.43 | ma3x | but he .rar'ed some of them |
| 14:30.46 | halmetti | cya guys |
| 14:30.48 | ma3x | so zip can't handle them |
| 14:30.51 | Blissex | ma3x: and ZIP cannot IIRC do files larger than 2GiB |
| 14:30.55 | saibot | Hello guys! I'm trying to install Debian Sarge Netinstaller to a friends computer, and the netcard isnt working |
| 14:31.04 | saibot | Its a Via Rhine II |
| 14:31.05 | maakud | folks: when windows users are sending .doc files FLOSS people are flossing away :) in order to produce abiword and openoffice to read these files. |
| 14:31.06 | hiux | yea, i'm using debian 4.0 |
| 14:31.07 | hiux | Linux version 2.6.12-1-686 (dilinger@mouth) (gcc version 4.0.2 20050821 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-6)) #1 Tue Sep 6 15:10:40 UTC 2005 |
| 14:31.16 | saibot | I tried modprobe via-rhine and it didnt work either |
| 14:31.17 | asg | hiux: that's the version of gcc |
| 14:31.21 | streuner | !listkeys rhine |
| 14:31.23 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'rhine' by key returned no results. |
| 14:31.30 | hiux | asg, no |
| 14:31.31 | asg | !via |
| 14:31.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, via is see /dev/null, or see linux/drivers/pci/quirks.c, aka via-bug-fixes.c, or evil ! evil i tell you!! |
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| 14:31.33 | asg | hiux: yes |
| 14:31.44 | maakud | folks: then why windows users are not working in orderto learn to read tar.gz files? |
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| 14:31.52 | hiux | gcc 4.0.2 and debian 4.0.1 |
| 14:32.13 | saibot | maakud, Most Windoze users are lazy |
| 14:32.17 | asg | hiux: dpkg -l | grep gcc |
| 14:32.40 | saibot | oh guys, the via netcard is onboard! |
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| 14:32.45 | moparfan90 | hello |
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| 14:33.06 | saibot | Do you know what can i do to get it working? |
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| 14:33.12 | moparfan90 | i am installing debian right now and am going to need help soon |
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| 14:33.19 | hiux | asg, ok ,i'm defeated |
| 14:33.26 | streuner | !hurry |
| 14:33.26 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 14:33.27 | maakud | saibot: seems like many FLOSS programmers like linux-ntfs, samba, etc. are hard-working support group for lazy windoze users. |
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| 14:33.33 | hiux | asg, you are right |
| 14:33.34 | asg | hiux: it is odd that the version is 4.0.2 but the package 4.0.1 |
| 14:33.35 | slack7384 | moparfan90 - which release? |
| 14:33.41 | jasperB | hi |
| 14:33.42 | blastmanu | what equl in french of "to lag behind" ? |
| 14:33.51 | asg | blastmanu: #debian-fr would know |
| 14:33.55 | moparfan90 | stable |
| 14:34.01 | kilojoule | exit |
| 14:34.14 | slack7384 | moparfan90 - I have stable installed as well |
| 14:34.27 | reezeh | any .debs for nvidia drivers ... specially older hardware - i am using a gf2 ultra |
| 14:34.36 | EdgEy | failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module :/ argh |
| 14:34.49 | saibot | maakud, I dont think so! I think they are supporters for Linux/Windoze users! and if you're a Linux/win user you're not in the same level of the only windoze lazy user |
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| 14:34.51 | blastmanu | I can't acces |
| 14:34.57 | blastmanu | s |
| 14:34.59 | maakud | reezeh: any reason why nv driver is not good enough for you? |
| 14:35.17 | reezeh | well... running slow |
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| 14:35.35 | reezeh | mebbe might be able to get a bit more oomph with hardware accel |
| 14:35.38 | maakud | saibot: true enough. also pain of sysadmins whose bosses use windoze. |
| 14:35.51 | saibot | maakud, Of course! heheheh! |
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| 14:35.57 | saibot | maakud, And family who uses windoze |
| 14:36.05 | Ronin | blastmanu: cant access what? |
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| 14:36.16 | saibot | maakud, Or the college who just use M$ technology |
| 14:36.18 | jasperB | hi, anybody could tell me how well are PCIe graphic cards supported under debian? |
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| 14:36.51 | blastmanu | I banned of this chan near two-three month :/ |
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| 14:37.11 | maakud | saibot: sad fact. cannot escape the clutches of NT. |
| 14:37.42 | Eulex | jasperB, my ati x300 works fine (it's PCI-express) |
| 14:37.43 | saibot | maakud, Linux is better than any windoze... The problem are the winusers. hehehehe! |
| 14:38.18 | Dewi | right. is that enough anti-windows wanking yet? |
| 14:38.26 | dawg | reezeh, the current version in debian should support gf2 (but support for gf2s has been discontinued after this version afaik) so just grab the appropriate deb |
| 14:38.34 | moparfan90 | is it possibvle to install xorg on stable... with only the cdebian core installed? |
| 14:38.38 | saibot | maakud, I was giving a seminary about Linux in my college and there was 3 or 4 students calling me names and cursing Linux |
| 14:38.44 | fbi | saibot: backports |
| 14:38.49 | fbi | err |
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| 14:38.59 | fbi | moparfan90: backports |
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| 14:39.08 | asg | moparfan90: /msg dpkg x.org |
| 14:39.23 | charolastra | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.37 | reezeh | that is what i want the deb - anyone got a link? i don't fancy using the .run files |
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| 14:39.47 | jasperB | and does it offer full support, or, as I can suppose, agp support is much better? |
| 14:39.50 | reezeh | trying not to break my system |
| 14:40.08 | asg | reezeh: try /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 14:40.18 | moparfan90 | ok thanks |
| 14:40.24 | dawg | reezeh, apt-cache search nvidia-kernel |
| 14:40.31 | reezeh | ta |
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| 14:42.57 | reezeh | :/ |
| 14:43.39 | saibot | Damn cheap onboard netcard!!! |
| 14:43.40 | jasperB | and sata devices are also supported? |
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| 14:43.50 | saibot | I give up! I'll install Conectiva for him |
| 14:43.50 | jasperB | both 150 & 300? |
| 14:43.53 | saibot | :/ |
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| 14:47.21 | javi_ | someone speak spanish? |
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| 14:47.45 | shingouz | !es |
| 14:47.45 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 14:48.09 | javi_ | ok |
| 14:48.14 | javi_ | thank |
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| 14:48.19 | javi_ | bye |
| 14:48.24 | orbweaver | azeem .. hi .. things are better now but not totally fixed |
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| 14:48.52 | ekeko | hello!, i have a 5GB size ext3 FS into a 9GB partition, how can i resize the FS to 9GB? |
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| 14:49.27 | orbweaver | hi .. I was here last night trying to get help to fix sarge installation |
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| 14:49.42 | orbweaver | still some problems .. xserver |
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| 14:49.55 | herfo | ekeko: check out 'parted' |
| 14:50.05 | shingouz | !tell orbweaver about ask |
| 14:50.08 | shingouz | !tell orbweaver about drxx |
| 14:50.10 | herfo | ekeko: qt_parted, system-rescue-cd has it included also 2 x gui versions i think |
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| 14:50.46 | ekeko | herfo: but parted only resize partition, partition is OK, I only need resize FS |
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| 14:51.16 | fbi | wtf |
| 14:51.20 | fbi | what are you talking about, dude |
| 14:51.30 | shingouz | ekeko: i find it hard to believe you have a fs smaller than the partition, afaik that is impossible |
| 14:51.40 | Gathond | shingouz: its not |
| 14:51.56 | Gathond | shingouz: most filesystem contains the size of it |
| 14:52.22 | Gathond | shingouz: try dd'ing a filsystem from a small partition onto a larger and then mount it sometime:) |
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| 14:52.23 | shingouz | i stand corrected in that case, Gathond |
| 14:52.31 | ekeko | shingouz: parted failed and it did resulted |
| 14:52.46 | shingouz | Gathond: yes, that is another thing again if there is dd involved |
| 14:52.51 | orbweaver | I get gnome screen after boot .. but login panel fails .. and returns to login screen .. try simple defaults on gnome panel but they fail |
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| 14:53.17 | orbweaver | I have done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:53.18 | Gathond | ekeko: parted probably does the trick, but ext2/3 should have som command for iet I believe |
| 14:53.18 | dawg | ekeko, backup your data (you should have already), recreate the filesystem and copy it back |
| 14:53.39 | Eulex | orbweaver, define "fails" |
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| 14:54.03 | Gathond | shingouz: no its not, the reason using dd to move /dev/hda1 to /dev/hda2 will retain the size information of the filesystem is because it actually copies the filesystem not the contents |
| 14:54.08 | ekeko | dawg: i thinking about it, but is not another solution? |
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| 14:54.18 | Mugsy_ | Has anyone setup a SMB printer? |
| 14:54.36 | Gathond | ekeko: parted should be able to do it, or ext2resize perhaps |
| 14:54.38 | shingouz | Gathond: i know dd does that |
| 14:54.46 | shingouz | !tell Mugsy_ about ask |
| 14:55.11 | orbweaver | sorry .. fails means box appears - "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds .. try loggin in with one of the failsafe sessions" |
| 14:55.11 | ekeko | Gathond: ext2resize? on ext3? i will see it? |
| 14:55.14 | Gathond | shingouz: but if the filesystems size was only dependant on the partition its size would just match the new partition |
| 14:55.22 | Gathond | ekeko: ext3 is jsut ext2 and a journal |
| 14:55.29 | herfo | ekeko: ext3 is just ext2 plus more features |
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| 14:55.35 | azeem | orbweaver: check ~/.xsession-errors |
| 14:55.41 | Gathond | ekeko: if it cant resize it, you can always remove the journal do it then add the journal again |
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| 14:55.48 | shingouz | Gathond: i know what dd does, that is why i said odd things can happen when dd is involved |
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| 14:56.23 | ekeko | Gathond: how can i remove journal? |
| 14:56.28 | tuomas_ | oops |
| 14:56.41 | stew | ekeko: /msg dpkg ext3->ext2 |
| 14:56.41 | orbweaver | azeem ... Xllib: connection to ":0.0: refused by server, Xlib Protocol not supported by server |
| 14:56.47 | dawg | ekeko, why would you want to do that? |
| 14:57.02 | Dewi | dawg: wants to resize fs |
| 14:57.03 | tuomas_ | my debian mini laptop will be ready in october-november if my budget holds |
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| 14:57.04 | Gathond | shingouz: but those odd things only happen because the size of the filesystem is indeed stored in the filesystem, not the partition its on, therefore its possible to have a smaller filesystem than the partition size (the reverse might be possible as well, although I would hope something safeguards against that |
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| 14:57.09 | tuomas_ | yes! |
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| 14:57.19 | ekeko | dawg: i thinking parted have problems with ext3 |
| 14:57.21 | azeem | orbweaver: ugh |
| 14:57.22 | tuomas_ | it'll also be a kind of a gaming console... |
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| 14:57.30 | dawg | dewi, doesn't explain why the journal would have to be removed |
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| 14:57.39 | orbweaver | azeem .. "no session manager, no window manages, .. found |
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| 14:57.44 | shingouz | Gathond: yes yes, relax, man :) |
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| 14:57.52 | dawg | ekeko, it doesn't matter, the journal is just a file on an ext2 filesystem |
| 14:57.56 | orbweaver | azeem .. yes . ugh |
| 14:57.58 | Gathond | shingouz: I am relaxed:) |
| 14:57.59 | azeem | orbweaver: install one, put it in your ~/.xsession for testing |
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| 14:58.07 | azeem | like exec wmaker |
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| 14:58.18 | fbi | shouldn't gdm have been installed as a gnome dependency? |
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| 14:58.52 | Dewi | fbi: does gnome depend on gdm? |
| 14:59.05 | fbi | obviously i don't know... |
| 14:59.09 | fbi | hence the question |
| 14:59.14 | stew | gnome depends on gnome-desktop-environment which depends on gdm |
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| 14:59.17 | ekeko | I'm reading man of ext2resize, i think is my solution |
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| 14:59.26 | dawg | fbi, only if you installed gnome via gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 14:59.50 | stew | dawg: and g-d-e is installed when you install "gnome" |
| 14:59.57 | orbweaver | azeem .. lots seems to be missing after upgrade .. is there a way to force a reinstall of important packages |
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| 15:00.30 | azeem | orbweaver: apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, or something |
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| 15:00.50 | stew | orbweaver: what version of debian are you running? |
| 15:01.01 | azeem | orbweaver: and you could use aptitude or dselect to mark/install all required, important and standard packages |
| 15:01.09 | orbweaver | azeem . thanks |
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| 15:01.56 | herfo | is there any specific configuration that is necessary to get md0/software raid/mdadm to automagically manage my software raid array from bootup apart from adding raid5 to /etc/modules and editing /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf? |
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| 15:02.09 | orbweaver | I've "upgraded" from woody to sarge .. yes .. I should use aptitude but I'm not so familar with it as with apt-get |
| 15:02.38 | Eulex | orbweaver, then that's your problem |
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| 15:02.59 | stew | orbweaver: if you used apt-get then you might very well be only partially upgraded. run apt-get dist-upgrade and/or apt-get -f install until it doesn't want to upgrade anything else |
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| 15:04.06 | ekeko | Thanks, solution did ext2resize, good bye to all |
| 15:04.10 | orbweaver | stew .. I did the repeated installs till no more wanted to be installed. I first tried aptitude for upgrade but ran into serious problems. |
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| 15:05.11 | orbweaver | I think I have a better idea of how to proceed .. installing gnome stuff now .. will then look at aptitude again |
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| 15:06.52 | abrotman | yay bots! |
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| 15:07.04 | EdgEy | yay! |
| 15:07.22 | vagabund | np Dire straits - Why Worry |
| 15:07.28 | granden | How do I change Screen 0 "Screen[0]" Screen 1 "Screen[1]" LeftOf "Screen[1]" so it gets cloned isntead? |
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| 15:08.14 | abrotman | vagabund: we dont' care TURN IT OFF |
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| 15:09.28 | Mugsy_ | Should I use apsfilter? |
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| 15:09.55 | Mugsy_ | Or do you recommend another program to setup my printer on Debian |
| 15:09.57 | jethro | abrotman: why worry? it's sunday! |
| 15:10.06 | bob2 | haha |
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| 15:10.28 | Mugsy_ | Well, when I select my driver I get this: |
| 15:10.29 | Mugsy_ | Error: Your gs version doesn't have driver "hl1240" compiled in... |
| 15:10.29 | Mugsy_ | Select another driver or build a new gs version with complete or customized |
| 15:10.29 | abrotman | who was worrying? |
| 15:10.30 | Mugsy_ | driver support. |
| 15:10.46 | dawg | granden, option "clone" "on" |
| 15:11.03 | Amarande | okay, is or isn't PostScript a cross-platform standard |
| 15:11.03 | Mugsy_ | How do I build a new gs version? |
| 15:11.13 | Amarande | I always thought it was, but this font store is selling both 'Windows' and 'Mac' PS fonts |
| 15:11.32 | Amarande | is there actually a difference in the font files, or is the whole thing going to be something silly like the Windows ones come in a zip file and the Mac ones in an HQX? |
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| 15:12.19 | jjazz | sudo cdrecord -scanbus tells me it "Cannot open SCSI driver". cat /proc/scsi/scsi says "No such file or directory" I know the device is at /dev/hdd because I can read it. cdrecord dev=help shows no supported transports. Where do I start in getting this DVRW to burn a disc? |
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| 15:12.55 | Thanaway | I have constructed a serial port IR receptor/transmitter for use with lirc... but not have any idea of how to configure it... any person recomends any doc ? |
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| 15:13.04 | bob2 | jjazz: dn't use -scanbus |
| 15:13.14 | bob2 | jjazz: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd foo.iso |
| 15:13.29 | jcdubacq | hi |
| 15:13.56 | bob2 | the cdrecord help is sadly crap because the author is a crackfiend |
| 15:13.58 | jcdubacq | is there a channel to ask questions about debian's openoffice? |
| 15:14.06 | bob2 | #debian-oo |
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| 15:14.23 | jcdubacq | thanks |
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| 15:14.50 | jjazz | bob2, it's burning. I can't believe it's that easy. I've been googling and reading for over an hour. |
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| 15:15.04 | dawg | jjazz, growisofs is nice |
| 15:15.28 | jjazz | dawg, thanks. I'll give it a look. |
| 15:15.38 | EdgEy | growisofs, lol |
| 15:15.47 | EdgEy | grow iso grow! |
| 15:15.48 | EdgEy | :D |
| 15:16.14 | bob2 | jjazz: heh |
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| 15:16.32 | bob2 | jjazz: sadly the cdrecord author ha a massive axe to grind against IDE and Linux, so he makes it look hard |
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| 15:17.32 | jjazz | bob2, sad indeed. |
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| 15:20.39 | vagabund | !seen destiny |
| 15:20.39 | dpkg | destiny <n=lisa@229.a.001lg.syd.iprimus.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 30d 9h 11m 32s ago, saying: 'JimButton: you are as cute as a button, aren't you? :)'. |
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| 15:26.13 | jjazz | dawg, does growisofs write CDs? Or just DVDs? |
| 15:26.33 | fgatsu | hi there all |
| 15:26.53 | fgatsu | i have some linux experience, but am new to debian |
| 15:26.59 | abrotman | cdrecord is sufficient for CDs |
| 15:27.10 | fgatsu | im trying to install tomcat |
| 15:27.15 | dawg | jjazz, i've only ever used it for dvds so I'm not sure |
| 15:27.26 | jjazz | k |
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| 15:27.29 | fgatsu | but apt on my machine for some reason can't find the tomcat package |
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| 15:27.42 | abrotman | fgatsu: in sarge? |
| 15:27.42 | fgatsu | the command im using is "apt-cache search tomcat" |
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| 15:27.53 | fgatsu | abrotman: yes in sarge |
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| 15:27.56 | abrotman | fgatsu: in sarge it's called tomcat4 |
| 15:28.03 | abrotman | fgatsu: apt-cache search tomcat |
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| 15:28.23 | fgatsu | abrotman: that's the exact command i used |
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| 15:29.06 | fgatsu | abrotman: i get about 5 results, but none for tomcat4 |
| 15:29.15 | abrotman | !info tomcat4 sarge |
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| 15:29.23 | Om | Newbie question alert: How can I start a process so that it won't die when I close the terminal it's started from? |
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| 15:29.28 | abrotman | nohup |
| 15:29.42 | asg | Om: or the superior screen |
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| 15:29.46 | Phated | screen. |
| 15:29.57 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 15:29.57 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 15:30.00 | Om | Okay, thanks :) |
| 15:30.00 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 15:30.22 | fgatsu | abrotman: any ideas? |
| 15:30.24 | Phated | Might need to install screen before actually being able to use it. |
| 15:30.25 | abrotman | fgatsu: it's in contrib |
| 15:30.30 | abrotman | !tell fgatsu about contrib |
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| 15:30.47 | abrotman | fgatsu: have you already installed a jdk/jre ? |
| 15:31.05 | stumbles | hi, i'm trying to reinstall grub after an xp install onto my SATA drive. I've mounted the root drive and chrooted to that (strange - it's /dev/hde when is normally /dev/sda) but grub install fails - /dev/hde no corresponding BIOS drive |
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| 15:31.13 | fgatsu | abrotman: no actually i haven't |
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| 15:31.24 | abrotman | fgatsu: /msg dpkg install java |
| 15:31.24 | fgatsu | abrotman: that will be something i have to install as well |
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| 15:32.08 | Eulex | fgatsu, maybe it's contrib or non-free? if so, are your sources.list set up for that? |
| 15:32.23 | dpkg | tomcat4: (Java Servlet 2.3 engine with JSP 1.2 support), section contrib/web, is optional. Version: 4.1.31-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 340 kB |
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| 15:32.29 | fgatsu | Eulex: yeah i think that's teh problem |
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| 15:32.41 | fgatsu | Eulex: my sources.list hasn't been set up for that yet |
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| 15:33.21 | Phated | It's not hard to. Edit sources.list, chuck in contrib right after main, apt-get update, apt-get install tomcat4. |
| 15:33.52 | fgatsu | ahh ic |
| 15:34.23 | fgatsu | abrotman, Eulex, Phated: thanks for the guys |
| 15:34.37 | abrotman | send me some gals! |
| 15:34.39 | mohkohn | Sound is working. CD is linked and I am chilling with some Nine Inch Nails. |
| 15:34.39 | asg | thanks for the guys? |
| 15:34.48 | fgatsu | hahah |
| 15:34.49 | fgatsu | oops |
| 15:34.49 | Phated | Gal right here. |
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| 15:34.57 | bob2 | chilling to NiN sounds non-trivial ;) |
| 15:34.58 | fgatsu | oops |
| 15:35.01 | abrotman | in a cage? |
| 15:35.03 | asg | bob2: no doubt |
| 15:35.03 | Eulex | haha |
| 15:35.04 | fgatsu | thanks for the help ladies and gentleman |
| 15:35.09 | fgatsu | hehe |
| 15:35.11 | Phated | BAHAHAHAAH. |
| 15:35.20 | Phated | You might mean lady and gentlemen there. |
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| 15:35.25 | bob2 | 'no doubt' sounds easier to chill to |
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| 15:35.36 | bob2 | unless they make you want to throw knives at gwen setfani |
| 15:35.36 | Phated | No Doubt is perfectly chillable. |
| 15:35.42 | mohkohn | Has anybody else here installed using the Debian from Scratch .iso as opposed to the Official Sarge Installer |
| 15:35.45 | mohkohn | ? |
| 15:36.10 | bob2 | I have a DFS iso here |
| 15:36.12 | bob2 | I should try it |
| 15:36.22 | Phated | Yeh, do it and doc it. |
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| 15:36.53 | mohkohn | It was the only way I could get Sarge installed. The regular installer just wouldn't boot. |
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| 15:37.14 | bob2 | you're trying to trick me into writing documentation |
| 15:37.14 | bob2 | no fair |
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| 15:37.32 | Om | Hrm, I have screen now but how can I start screen itself without the screen process being attached to the terminal I start it from? |
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| 15:37.51 | Phated | It detaches and keeps running as long as there's at least one 'terminal' within screen. |
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| 15:38.17 | Phated | Just do Ctrl-A Ctrl-D to detach it and then you can gleefully log out from your terminal. |
| 15:38.19 | mohkohn | Actually it the CD would boot but after partitioning and installing it would not do the initial boot. |
| 15:38.29 | asg | Om: -d -m |
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| 15:38.39 | Om | So it does that when it gets the HUP from the parent terminal closing? |
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| 15:38.45 | Phated | No. |
| 15:38.46 | asg | abrotman: they had any to begin with? |
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| 15:38.56 | bob2 | mohkohn: with the 2.6 sarge kernel? |
| 15:39.17 | mohkohn | DFS just worked. Maybe he has a different kernel than stock Debian. Yep Bob2 linux26. |
| 15:39.19 | Phated | Om: Simple HOWTO - 1. Log in. 2. screen 3. run command. 4. Ctrl-A Ctrl-D, you should see [screen detached] 5. Log out. |
| 15:39.21 | abrotman | asg: i just saw a commercial .. "Have a happy period .. Always" .. now i don't have much experience there .. but my undersatnding is .. they just aren't a happy experience |
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| 15:39.31 | Phated | Oops, sorry, you just see [] |
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| 15:39.33 | Phated | detached. |
| 15:39.35 | Phated | Argh. |
| 15:39.35 | Om | Okay, thanks :) |
| 15:39.37 | Phated | Bugger. |
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| 15:39.42 | Phated | No problem. Enjoy. |
| 15:39.43 | mohkohn | So if the Sarge installer doesn't work try Debian from Scratch. |
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| 15:39.53 | asg | abrotman: nutty |
| 15:39.58 | Phated | abrotman: I'm contributing to you understanding. They're not. |
| 15:40.00 | Phated | your. |
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| 15:40.12 | abrotman | ok .. just checking .. |
| 15:40.21 | Rhinoz | I am trying to install sldap and when it starts it says Unrecognized database type (ldbm) can someone point me in the right direction |
| 15:40.22 | Mugsy_ | How do I set up a SAMBA printer? |
| 15:40.23 | abrotman | bad commercial .. |
| 15:40.29 | Phated | I concur |
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| 15:40.37 | abrotman | slapd ? |
| 15:40.38 | asg | Mugsy_: www.oreilly.com/openbook (read Using Samba 2nd Ed.) |
| 15:40.40 | stew | mohkohn: what is debian from scratch? |
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| 15:41.54 | tourist_alej | not supported by the ati driver) |
| 15:42.11 | tourist_alej | my ati7500 |
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| 15:42.27 | TurffHogg | can somone help me with a rpm? |
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| 15:42.36 | tourist_alej | i have installed xorg6.8.2 |
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| 15:42.42 | asg | TurffHogg: #redhat can |
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| 15:43.22 | jonaskoelker | I have a question about interpreting the output of apt-listbugs (run by apt-get): exactly what does `<done>' and `<open>' mean? |
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| 15:43.33 | TurffHogg | im not sure what the [install options] is for |
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| 15:43.44 | TurffHogg | im on debian |
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| 15:43.48 | mohkohn | stew http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_DFS/ |
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| 15:44.11 | abrotman | TurffHogg: why are you installing an RPM ? |
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| 15:44.14 | fbi | TurffHogg: install alien, and pray |
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| 15:44.18 | asg | TurffHogg: ask #redhat, debian doesn't use rpms nor does #debian support their creation. |
| 15:44.35 | TurffHogg | i did install alien |
| 15:44.41 | abrotman | what are you trying to install ? |
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| 15:45.36 | TurffHogg | limewire |
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| 15:45.48 | abrotman | isn't limewire in debian ? |
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| 15:45.54 | tazman | debian newb, running 3.1, how does one list the files that are in a package? |
| 15:45.56 | Phated | jonaskoelker: <done> is generally fixed. <open> is still, well... open. |
| 15:45.58 | asg | !info limewire |
| 15:46.03 | abrotman | it used to! |
| 15:46.04 | mohkohn | Stew Those DFS docs worked pretty good...except before you logout you need to "apt-get install discover hotplug" |
| 15:46.23 | tourist_alej | if i have xorg6.8.2 what else do i have to install to get DRI enabled? |
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| 15:46.36 | Phated | tazman: dpkg -L <package> |
| 15:46.41 | tazman | thanks |
| 15:46.48 | tazman | man dpkg time :-) |
| 15:46.53 | nkuttler | abrotman: a few months ago the version in sid was like one year old |
| 15:47.00 | mohkohn | Plus I had to modprobe 8139too then ifup eth0...then tasksel or you can do individual packages |
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| 15:47.07 | abrotman | nkuttler: ah ok |
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| 15:47.30 | jonaskoelker | Phated: so that means that the version of <package> I'm upgrading *to* has had that bug closed/fixed since the last version. Correct? |
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| 15:48.12 | tazman | hmm, don't see "L" option in man page for dpkg |
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| 15:48.18 | Phated | jonaskoelker: Yes. |
| 15:48.26 | jonaskoelker | Phated: great. Thank you. |
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| 15:48.50 | asg | tazman: on line 213 |
| 15:48.51 | Phated | tazman: And yet, oddly enough, it will work. Think it's only on an installed packages, though. If you want to examine contents of packages before installing them, do a search on p.d.o. |
| 15:48.55 | Phated | jonaskoelker: No problem. |
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| 15:49.03 | tazman | maybe my xen console again |
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| 15:50.28 | mohkohn | stew, incidentally if the regular Sarge installer works for you stick with that. |
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| 15:54.11 | basix | hi people. i am trying to configure named. I wanted to add a zone. I am following this tut. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/network-administrator/ch-bind.html But the problem is that there is no directory /var/named! Should I create it? |
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| 15:54.32 | setnf | basix, you can create it. |
| 15:54.41 | Phated | Yes, and you need to edit the config to point to it, appropriately. |
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| 15:54.50 | basix | setnf, shouldn't named have created it? |
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| 15:55.06 | moparfan90 | hello. i just installed debian. i have xorg and gdm and gnome and i cant get into gdm i get a eroor and then the computer locks up... anyone know what to do? |
| 15:55.09 | basix | setnf, i am working on Debian 3.1 sarge |
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| 15:55.23 | Phated | You can really have your zonefiles anywhere, as long as named knows where to find them. Follow the tute. |
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| 15:55.41 | sett | anyone installed gimpshop package for debian? |
| 15:55.46 | setnf | basix, not necessary. you can create it or choice another directory anywhere in the system, change the config, sure. |
| 15:55.57 | sett | http://mirror.suramya.com/redirect.php?id=3 this one |
| 15:56.21 | basix | setnf, but there is no mention of /var/named in my /etc/bind/named.conf |
| 15:56.31 | abrotman | basix: what are you putting in there? |
| 15:56.51 | setnf | you must configure your directive for zones directory. |
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| 15:57.17 | abrotman | basix: is this for your zone files ? |
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| 15:58.04 | abrotman | oKPHzPnIo: we don't want any! |
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| 15:58.16 | basix | abrotman, yeah. |
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| 15:58.29 | abrotman | basix: you can put those anywhere you want .. they don' thave to be in /var/named/ |
| 15:58.38 | Phated | Does the line "directory "/var/named";" not exist in named.conf? |
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| 15:59.04 | basix | Phated, yep. it doesnt |
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| 15:59.29 | Phated | chuck it in, then. Although I think it exists in the examples. |
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| 15:59.38 | stumbles | can someone help me out installing grub back onto my sata drive (after xp install)? having some a strange issue where the drive which is normally /dev/sda is being recognised as /dev/hde by the boot disk |
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| 15:59.52 | basix | Phated, it exists in examples >.< |
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| 15:59.54 | Phated | Check /usr/share/doc/bind[9]/examples or something along the lines. |
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| 16:00.01 | abrotman | stumbles: you booted a 2.4 kernel |
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| 16:00.31 | Phated | Look, really, I kind of refuse to install bind just to see if it has example configs in /usr/share/doc/. :) |
| 16:00.37 | stumbles | abrotman: ooooh so a 2.6 should give me /dev/sda |
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| 16:00.46 | abrotman | stumbles: probably |
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| 16:00.53 | abrotman | stumbles: they chnaged the naming |
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| 16:01.17 | stumbles | abrotman: i was booting using DSL, can i recover using a sarge CD? |
| 16:01.22 | Phated | basix: You're on sarge? |
| 16:01.24 | basix | Phated, no examples in there |
| 16:01.27 | basix | Phated, yeah |
| 16:01.31 | Phated | Hang on. |
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| 16:01.39 | abrotman | stumbles: uhm .. i think so |
| 16:01.43 | Phated | basix: bind or bind9? |
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| 16:01.45 | stumbles | abrotman: as in Damn Small Linux |
| 16:01.46 | basix | Phated, this IRC client aint on :P |
| 16:01.52 | abrotman | stumbles: and i think you could just skip to the GRUB install thingie |
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| 16:02.12 | basix | Phated, bind and not bind9 |
| 16:02.15 | Phated | Thank you. |
| 16:02.25 | abrotman | bind9! |
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| 16:02.47 | stumbles | abrotman: thanks! |
| 16:02.49 | Phated | Ah, apparently, there are no examples. Well, follow the tute, then. I doubt you can really go very far wrong. |
| 16:02.50 | TurffHogg | can i apt-get a new file extractor? |
| 16:02.51 | abrotman | more holes .. bind8 or sendmail .. an epic battle! |
| 16:03.10 | noble- | anyone have any idea why bitchx wouldn't be handling DCCs correctly? |
| 16:03.18 | abrotman | because it's bitchx |
| 16:03.18 | Phated | TurffHogg: To extract what kind of files, precisely? |
| 16:03.19 | asg | abrotman: the holes have mostly been patched, it's the sordid history that's scary |
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| 16:03.26 | TurffHogg | .zip |
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| 16:03.33 | abrotman | asg: i know .. it was a long horrible history though :) |
| 16:03.36 | asg | TurffHogg: apt-cache search |
| 16:03.40 | abrotman | asg: for both of them |
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| 16:03.58 | Phated | !info unzip |
| 16:04.04 | abrotman | !unzip |
| 16:04.04 | dpkg | from memory, unzip is a program to unzip (stangely enough) zip files. apt-get install unzip will install unzip-crypt, or you need non-us sources to get it because it has crypto stuff. |
| 16:04.06 | dpkg | unzip: (De-archiver for .zip files), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.52-3 (sid), Packaged size: 141 kB, Installed size: 276 kB |
| 16:04.06 | Phated | Oh, come on. |
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| 16:04.10 | Phated | There we go! |
| 16:04.13 | abrotman | Phated: i think he's dying |
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| 16:04.15 | abrotman | he's been slow |
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| 16:04.28 | Phated | Prolly. dondelelcaro should be notified. |
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| 16:04.37 | Phated | !stats |
| 16:04.37 | dpkg | Since Sat Sep 17 03:10:29 2005, there have been 4 modifications, 715 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 184 commands. I have been awake for 1d 12h 54m 8s this session, and currently reference 26295 factoids. I'm using about 15528 kB of memory. With 1 active fork. Process time user/system 291.91/13.21 child 246.84/14.13 |
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| 16:04.46 | TurffHogg | damn i have us |
| 16:04.49 | Phated | He has forked! :O |
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| 16:05.07 | asg | Phated: forked up |
| 16:05.12 | Phated | Heh. |
| 16:05.56 | pif | hi, I can't compile kernels anymore on "unstable": 'sound/built-in.o:(.rodata+0x5504): undefined reference to `__compound_literal' |
| 16:06.01 | pif | sound familiar? |
| 16:06.18 | pif | 2.6.12 or any other version is the same |
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| 16:06.39 | abrotman | does gcc4 compile kernels yet? |
| 16:06.49 | pif | it used to a few days ago |
| 16:06.58 | Mugsy_ | How come when I try to print it says this: lpr: cannot open /var/spool/lpd/tmpprinter_wy9k9yY3/.seq: Permission denied |
| 16:07.00 | pif | then I dist-upgraded and no more |
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| 16:07.19 | asg | pif: then check the bts |
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| 16:07.28 | sts | how can i resolve apt-errors like this: /usr/sbin/cyrus-makedirs: unable to read configuration file /etc/imapd.conf. Aborting... |
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| 16:08.14 | Phated | Unable to read. Permissions? Does the file exist? |
| 16:08.22 | Phated | And then apt-get -f install. |
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| 16:08.52 | ma3x | how can I export .jpg with GIMP? |
| 16:09.02 | asg | ma3x: save as |
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| 16:09.18 | ma3x | I set the compression to level 9 but it increases the file from 500 KB to 1,7 MB |
| 16:09.18 | ma3x | how is that possible? |
| 16:09.24 | ma3x | asg save as and then what format? |
| 16:09.28 | ma3x | i tried png and gif |
| 16:09.47 | Phated | Doesn't compression level 9 mean best quality or something? |
| 16:09.49 | maakud | ma3x: you have increased the picture dimensions perhaps |
| 16:09.49 | asg | ma3x: .jpg since that is what you said you wanted |
| 16:09.58 | ma3x | Phated, no |
| 16:10.08 | Phated | Dunno, I can't recall now. |
| 16:10.10 | ma3x | asg, it doesnt matter for me what format |
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| 16:10.19 | ma3x | I want to reduce it from 500 Kbytes to 100 |
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| 16:10.22 | noble- | I'm trying to send files to my other computer via IRC. This computer is windowsXP, the other is debian, anyone have any ideas as to how I can accomplish this? |
| 16:10.33 | Phated | Crop, cut, trim, compress. |
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| 16:10.47 | Phated | noble-: DCC, prolly. |
| 16:10.48 | abrotman | resample |
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| 16:11.13 | noble- | I'm trying DCC, but bitchx is, well, bitching... |
| 16:11.14 | maakud | ma3x: pngcrush and docs that come with it. |
| 16:11.21 | cahoot | ma3x: what device created the original? |
| 16:11.21 | Phated | noble-: But really, if you have ssh on that box and can get psftp on the Windows XP on, you can just sftp them over. |
| 16:11.23 | asg | noble-: a firewall issue most likely |
| 16:11.29 | noble- | it autogets the file, then it says unable to open |
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| 16:11.37 | basix | ok now this DNS stuff is too complicated for me :| Anyone have a good tut for setting up DNS for my private network so I dont have to type IPs all the time? Also, I don't want to edit "hosts" on each comp :( |
| 16:11.52 | Phated | basix: Edit hosts, copy it around. :) |
| 16:12.05 | mwilson | basix: Run dnsmasq. |
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| 16:12.15 | abrotman | or use filezilla |
| 16:12.20 | ma3x | cahoot, my camcorder |
| 16:12.20 | maakud | basix: install resolvconf. |
| 16:12.20 | basix | Phated, look at the last sentence |
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| 16:12.39 | abrotman | basix: she did .. you're not editing .. you're copying! :) |
| 16:12.41 | maakud | basix: also pdnsd |
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| 16:12.50 | mwilson | maakud: What's resolvconf supposed to do for him, rather than nothing? |
| 16:13.01 | scarynetworkguy | basix: Read the how to on http://www.tldp.org |
| 16:13.08 | moparfan90 | hello i just installed debian and everythime xorg load it crashes |
| 16:13.11 | moparfan90 | what dom do |
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| 16:13.15 | basix | but i want to cache DNS records too :) |
| 16:13.16 | ARMIND | can someone please send me KDE's default logon sound? |
| 16:13.23 | maakud | mwilson: help him manage resolv.conf which he is too lazy to do. |
| 16:13.27 | asg | basix: if you are into djbware, lifewithdjbdns.org is a good resource |
| 16:13.29 | scarynetworkguy | basix: Or get a 14 day free trail for Safari and read the ORA books. |
| 16:13.36 | Phated | basix: Duh. :) |
| 16:13.46 | asg | scarynetworkguy: 45 day trials with newer books |
| 16:13.48 | maakud | basix: pdnsd is a DNS cacher |
| 16:13.49 | basix | scarynetworkguy, tdlp.org is Scarry! :O http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lame/LAME/linux-admin-made-easy/domain-name-server.html |
| 16:13.51 | scarynetworkguy | basix: Or google. Not like docs on DNS are sparse. |
| 16:13.55 | mwilson | maakud: Why does it need to be managed? |
| 16:14.08 | moparfan90 | can someone help me i just instaklled debian and when i rty to load X it crashes |
| 16:14.18 | bob2 | basix: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/zeroconf_networking_in_debian-2005-08-25-04-25.html |
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| 16:14.25 | maakud | mwilson: sorry. just rying to help. |
| 16:14.25 | asg | moparfan90: type 'X' at a console. What errors do you get. |
| 16:14.34 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Wouldn't know. I've had a subscription for close to 5 years. |
| 16:14.40 | basix | asg, nope. but i'll check it out anyway |
| 16:14.55 | moparfan90 | asg, bash when i type X |
| 16:14.55 | maakud | basix: pdnsd will work fine. |
| 16:15.24 | asg | scarynetworkguy: It would be useful if you could download them as pdfs. I often read in an unconnected environment so it's useless to me. A good idea, granted. |
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| 16:15.35 | Guerin | !info pdnsd |
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| 16:15.40 | dpkg | pdnsd: (Proxy DNS Server), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.2par-1 (sid), Packaged size: 231 kB, Installed size: 596 kB |
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| 16:15.50 | scarynetworkguy | asg: You CAN. |
| 16:16.06 | asg | scarynetworkguy: you can download certain chapters and are limited to a certain number though right? |
| 16:16.11 | moparfan90 | i am in recovery terminal thing |
| 16:16.12 | basix | bob2, thanks |
| 16:16.16 | mwilson | basix: All of them are overkill versus something like dnsmasq. |
| 16:16.18 | basix | maakud, i'll check it out |
| 16:16.25 | moparfan90 | bob2, can you please help me |
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| 16:16.53 | Mugsy_ | How come I get this: lpr: cannot open /var/spool/lpd/hp/.seq: Permission denied |
| 16:16.57 | Mugsy_ | When I try to print |
| 16:16.59 | basix | mwilson, fine |
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| 16:17.30 | asg | Mugsy_: permissions. Dunno if lpr is sgid but if you installed bastille or similar, it may not now be. |
| 16:17.30 | mwilson | Mugsy_: Gee, probably because the permissions say so. Did you actually look to see what they were? |
| 16:17.49 | Mugsy_ | The file isn't there |
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| 16:18.09 | AciD | oi |
| 16:18.15 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Yes. I've never wanted for download tokens though. YMMV. |
| 16:18.18 | mwilson | Mugsy_: <sigh> And what are the permissions on the /hp directory? |
| 16:18.19 | noble- | anyone here have experience with VNC, tight VNC |
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| 16:18.31 | asg | scarynetworkguy: not a big deal, I buy the books and write them off as a business expense. |
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| 16:18.38 | mwilson | noble-: What about it? I use it with our church. |
| 16:18.44 | Mugsy_ | drwxr-sr-x 2 root lp 4096 2005-09-18 12:14 hp |
| 16:18.53 | AciD | what would be the best imap/mail/ldap server combinaison for you ? |
| 16:18.54 | maakud | noble-: me and vnc real tight. :) |
| 16:19.05 | ducbian | I've managed to disable tty switching in kdm/kde3.3/xfree86 after a dist-upgrade. I know the ttys themselves are running and I can switch if I drop back to a console login, I know my alt key is working so its not a kb layout problem, any sugestions of where to look? |
| 16:19.05 | mwilson | Mugsy_: And now you know why you can't write to it. |
| 16:19.06 | bob2 | moparfan90: no |
| 16:19.07 | noble- | can I msg one of you guys and ask you some questions |
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| 16:19.18 | asg | noble-: just ask in channel and benefit from peer review. |
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| 16:19.25 | bob2 | moparfan90: not unless you provide a ton more information that I'm not going to be bothered to convince you to give |
| 16:19.27 | mwilson | noble-: Certainly not. If you have questions, that's what the channel is for. |
| 16:19.46 | maakud | aciD: cant understand imap is for mail where does ldap come into it? |
| 16:19.54 | Mugsy_ | mwilson: But I was root when I was printing |
| 16:19.59 | mwilson | Mugsy_: So? |
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| 16:20.07 | mwilson | Mugsy_: lpd isn't. |
| 16:20.19 | noble- | well, I installed Tightvncserver and I'm getting some errors upon trying to execute it.. this is my first time using it. Someone suggested it since I have no monitor on my debian box and I'm currently using SSH to remotely control it |
| 16:20.19 | moparfan90 | bob2, ok i installed debian, change it to "testing"" installed xorg xserverthing, then gdm, then gnome. |
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| 16:20.42 | asg | AciD: I use cyrus + exim + ldap (Active Directory accessed via pam_ldap) to provide 100k student mail boxes (Squirrelmail provides the web interface) |
| 16:20.43 | AciD | maakud > I'm installing my new debian server, I just want some names of good server appz, there is too much choice.. :) |
| 16:20.43 | mwilson | Mugsy_: Not that I'd guarantee you that I'm right... that's why you actually investigate what's going on. |
| 16:20.44 | moparfan90 | and when i try to load x it crashes and locks up on the error mesasage |
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| 16:21.01 | AciD | ok thx for the info asg |
| 16:21.06 | mwilson | noble-: Does anyone get to know what errors you get? |
| 16:21.17 | noble- | it's several lines long, can I paste? |
| 16:21.17 | asg | AciD: you might want to try courier, dovecot, or binc instead of cyrus though. |
| 16:21.21 | moparfan90 | bob2, is that good |
| 16:21.22 | mwilson | noble-: No. |
| 16:21.27 | titi | what's up with vnc noble ? |
| 16:21.55 | mwilson | noble-: That's what #flood, or a pastebot is for. |
| 16:22.00 | noble- | titi, I just installed it and I'm getting some errors |
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| 16:22.16 | Mugsy_ | Should it work if I make the owner lp? |
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| 16:22.26 | noble- | the main error is Fatal server error: Could not open font "fixed" |
| 16:22.34 | AciD | asg > is this your website appearring first in google when typing "cyrus" ? |
| 16:22.35 | mwilson | noble-: Oh, THAT. |
| 16:22.36 | maakud | noble-: install vnc on monitor less box. then you run vncserver on it. then from box with monitor you ssh to the box without monitor with command line switch '-L 5900:localhost:5900' . no on the box with monitor you run vncviewer. |
| 16:22.43 | rking | noble-: hey, i totally, totally have you covered. |
| 16:22.44 | asg | AciD: no |
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| 16:23.04 | rking | noble: vncserver -geometry 900x700 -depth 16 -alwaysshared -fp unix/:7100 |
| 16:23.17 | rking | noble-: that last part is the key - you are running xfs, right? |
| 16:23.18 | asg | AciD: though that is the cyrus-imap project that I use currently as an IMAP server. |
| 16:23.30 | mwilson | rking: You assume he's using a font server. |
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| 16:23.35 | noble- | rking, xfs? I'm not sure |
| 16:23.44 | rking | noble-: pstree | grep xfs |
| 16:24.13 | noble- | nothing |
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| 16:24.17 | maakud | noble-: did you install xfonts? |
| 16:24.22 | mwilson | You know, I could have sworn there was a changelog entry in tight that said that problem had been dealt with. |
| 16:24.36 | noble- | no |
| 16:24.44 | noble- | I don't "think" so.. hehe |
| 16:24.49 | asg | AciD: asg is the name of one of their servers iirc |
| 16:24.55 | moparfan90 | bob2, please |
| 16:25.09 | mwilson | This should be amusing... maakud, WHICH xfonts-* package? |
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| 16:25.42 | bob2 | moparfan90: try the debian-user list |
| 16:25.43 | noble- | no, I wasn't worried about fonts |
| 16:25.46 | maakud | noble-: you need xfonts on monitor less box. |
| 16:25.55 | moparfan90 | whats that |
| 16:26.00 | noble- | ok, that's an apt-get away |
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| 16:26.21 | bob2 | moparfan90: /msg dpkg d-u |
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| 16:26.57 | noble- | this is gonna get real difficult isn't it? |
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| 16:27.10 | drac | noble-: meh, apt-get install x-window-system-core (or just xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable) |
| 16:27.12 | maakud | noble-: the monitor less box runs an xserver called Xvnc. so it need some xfonts. |
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| 16:27.41 | maakud | noble-: vnc4server recommends xfonts-base. |
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| 16:27.58 | maakud | noble-: that should be enough to start with. |
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| 16:28.11 | noble- | ok, it's installing x-window-system-core |
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| 16:28.15 | Mugsy_ | How do I find out what files a program depends on? |
| 16:28.26 | mwilson | maakud: No, it needs to know where to GET some fonts, if what is in its default fontpath isn't enough. |
| 16:28.28 | maakud | noble-: that is too much! |
| 16:28.44 | noble- | is there a way to cancel? |
| 16:29.01 | maakud | mwilson: sure. if it can connect to xfs on some machine that is good enough. |
| 16:29.06 | noble- | oh well, I ^C'd out of it |
| 16:29.16 | bob2 | Mugsy_: you can't, in general |
| 16:29.20 | bob2 | Mugsy_: what do you mean specifically? |
| 16:29.31 | noble- | ok, installing xfonts-base |
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| 16:30.18 | noble- | cool, VNC is running now |
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| 16:30.28 | ayCaramba | hi folks |
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| 16:31.57 | maakud | noble-: you may need to give some more fonts or connect to a font server for "real" applications to run. |
| 16:32.16 | moparfan90 | hello. if anyone can help me pplease. i cant load X i get a eroor and my computer crashes |
| 16:32.20 | moparfan90 | help meplease |
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| 16:32.24 | ayCocoJambo | hola |
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| 16:32.33 | DoppelGanger | ha ah moparfan90 keep saying help |
| 16:32.49 | moparfan90 | why |
| 16:32.58 | noble- | I have plenty of HD space, how can I make sure that all Font related things I need are installed? |
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| 16:33.13 | DoppelGanger | cause eventually someone will say we need more info, or reconfig X or rtm |
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| 16:33.24 | maakud | moparfan90: computer crashes when X starts is serious bug in xfree86! :) what you mean is X crashes. please being calm and giving proper error messages. |
| 16:33.48 | bob2 | DoppelGanger: please stop being useless |
| 16:33.50 | moparfan90 | i am usaing xorg |
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| 16:34.07 | Mugsy_ | When I try to run a program I get this: libXxf86dga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:34.11 | DoppelGanger | :p |
| 16:34.13 | therealdantheman | Hi everyone. |
| 16:34.13 | maakud | noble-: what fonts you need depend on appl. you run. most appl. will drag in whatever fonts they want. and GNOME or FDE will drag in a lot of fonts in general. |
| 16:34.22 | maakud | s/FDE/KDE? |
| 16:34.26 | maakud | s/FDE/KDE/ |
| 16:34.30 | moparfan90 | it just says that there was a eroror while loadinbg X and then everything frezzes |
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| 16:34.38 | Mugsy_ | That file is suppost to come with Xfree86? |
| 16:34.38 | bob2 | Mugsy_: that seems pretty clear |
| 16:34.42 | moparfan90 | cant type and the keyboard light go out |
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| 16:34.47 | Mugsy_ | bob2: What do I do |
| 16:34.49 | bob2 | Mugsy_: punch it in to packages.debian.org and find out what package it's in |
| 16:35.19 | noble- | so now that vncserver is running on the debian box, is there anything special I need to do from windows to connect to it? |
| 16:35.19 | maakud | moparfan90: that does sound serious. boot in run level without X. |
| 16:35.36 | moparfan90 | how? |
| 16:36.02 | moparfan90 | recovery mode? |
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| 16:36.17 | moparfan90 | maakud, recovery mode? |
| 16:36.18 | gouvernator | hi fans :) |
| 16:36.22 | moparfan90 | hello |
| 16:36.28 | maakud | noble-: run vnc client for windows. |
| 16:36.31 | elirips | if i do an 'aptitude update; aptitude upgrade', it wants to remove 82 packages (a lot of kde apps like ark, ksnapshot, kaddressbook, etc.). anybody knows why aptitude thinks they are unused? because things like ark, ksnapshot are used almost every day by me.. |
| 16:36.49 | maakud | moparfan90: is there a recovery mode. then sure thats the right one. |
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| 16:36.54 | moparfan90 | ok |
| 16:37.01 | moparfan90 | im in that |
| 16:37.04 | moparfan90 | then what |
| 16:37.23 | maakud | elirips: you never used aptitude or used it before you used kde perhaps. |
| 16:37.40 | maakud | moparfan90: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:38.06 | moparfan90 | maakud, im not using that i am using xorg xserver |
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| 16:38.10 | elirips | maakud: indeed, this is the first time i'm using aptitude. until now i only used apt-get. so what to do if i would like to use it now.. i dont want it to remove those things. |
| 16:38.48 | Mugsy_ | bob2: It couldn't find it |
| 16:38.49 | maakud | elirips: probably rename /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates (just for safety) and then restart aptitude. |
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| 16:39.33 | moparfan90 | maakud, ???? what sould i do??? |
| 16:39.44 | gouvernator | what is going on with those 'honeypot' channels? |
| 16:39.44 | moparfan90 | maakud sorry for buggin you |
| 16:39.50 | gouvernator | what are they for? |
| 16:39.53 | Mugsy_ | bob2: I think its in this package: XFree86-libs-4.0.3-9.s390x |
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| 16:39.59 | bob2 | Mugsy_: no, it's not |
| 16:40.03 | maakud | moparfan90: did you try dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86? |
| 16:40.06 | bob2 | Mugsy_: since that package is not in Debian |
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| 16:40.10 | elirips | maakud: thanks, that worked. now it doesn't want to remove anything. thanks for your help. |
| 16:40.12 | dogmeat | bob2: hey i discovered when i was apt-get upgrading my sarge install that i was using a sources.list that included "testing" releases. thus the strange error messages i was receiving |
| 16:40.12 | moparfan90 | no sould i |
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| 16:40.15 | bob2 | Mugsy_: and I really really doubt you have an s/390 |
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| 16:40.29 | bob2 | dogmeat: testing != sarge |
| 16:40.34 | maakud | moparfan90: definetely. |
| 16:40.40 | mwilson | maakud: Oh, now THAT was intelligent. |
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| 16:40.49 | dogmeat | bob2: yes i discovered that after reading the apt-howto more carefully |
| 16:40.55 | bob2 | hah |
| 16:41.01 | maakud | mwilson: thanks. we do our best. |
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| 16:41.08 | Mugsy_ | bob2: s/390? |
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| 16:41.10 | dogmeat | bob2: but my other system is somewhat hosed because of that |
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| 16:41.34 | mwilson | maakud: There some particular reason you told him how to host aptitude rather than fix it? |
| 16:41.43 | moparfan90 | maakud, it said package not installed |
| 16:41.48 | drac | Mugsy_: architechture, not like powerpc, not like amd, not like intel |
| 16:41.51 | mwilson | s/host/hose/ |
| 16:41.57 | drac | Mugsy_: cpu type |
| 16:42.04 | bob2 | Mugsy_: exactly, that package has nothing to do with your solution |
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| 16:42.17 | maakud | maakud: how is it that xserver is not installed? |
| 16:42.22 | bob2 | Mugsy_: that is also presumably an RPM, since Debian packages are all lower-case |
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| 16:42.37 | Mugsy_ | bob2: Yea it is |
| 16:42.37 | maakud | mwilson: his problem *was* fixed. you saw his message. sorry if my solution was wrong. |
| 16:42.57 | dogmeat | bob2: when i try and apt-update or install other packages i find that there are failed dependencies... what is the best way to sort it out? |
| 16:43.05 | Mugsy_ | bob2: I couldn't find it on packages.debian.org so I searched google |
| 16:43.05 | mwilson | maakud: By deleting aptitude's entire package state cache. |
| 16:43.15 | bob2 | dogmeat: sounds like you partially upgraded to testing |
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| 16:43.20 | bob2 | Mugsy_: right, which doesn't help at all |
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| 16:43.30 | mwilson | maakud: That's the equivalent of killing a flea by smacking an asteroid into the planet. |
| 16:43.30 | Mugsy_ | bob2: So what should I do? |
| 16:43.31 | bob2 | Mugsy_: what are you tryign to run? |
| 16:43.38 | Mugsy_ | Nexuiz |
| 16:43.53 | Mugsy_ | http://www.nexuiz.com I think |
| 16:43.56 | moparfan90 | maakud, it said package not install. |
| 16:43.58 | maakud | mwilson: aptitude had not been used before or incorrectly. if there is no /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates then aptitude is creating it out of /var/lib/dpkg/status. I think... |
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| 16:44.23 | maakud | moparfan90: look for xserver on your system. which is the xserver? |
| 16:44.24 | dogmeat | bob2: so ... i could look through the packages.gz from sarge versus testing, as well as the currently installed packages on my system and try and fix it by substitution etc? |
| 16:44.37 | mwilson | My gods, *I* don't use it and I know more about it than the people that do. |
| 16:44.41 | moparfan90 | xserver xorg i think |
| 16:44.46 | bob2 | dogmeat: I don't know what you broke or what your aim is, so I don't know |
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| 16:44.57 | moparfan90 | i already reconfirgured it 3 time and that doesnt do anythin |
| 16:45.19 | maakud | moparfan90: oh. then run dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg |
| 16:45.27 | moparfan90 | ok |
| 16:45.58 | maakud | moparfan90: oh. if it doesnt work with reconfiguring then perhaps your video card is not supported. you're out of luck. |
| 16:46.01 | dogmeat | bob2: mainly it is to correct the discover which testing packages are on my system, fix failed dependencies so that the system is back in line. it's causing all sorts of install problems |
| 16:46.19 | Mugsy_ | bob2: Do you know what I should do? |
| 16:46.30 | drac | maakud: bah, almost everything is supported. and if not, they use vesa. |
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| 16:46.48 | moparfan90 | but i had gnome working with ubuntu |
| 16:46.59 | Teemu_K | goatse. boobs, tits.. and everyones irssi hilights |
| 16:47.04 | maakud | mwilson: debian primary package database is /var/lib/dpkg/status. if that is gone then system *is* hosed. aptitude is merely helper for users. |
| 16:47.04 | Teemu_K | no. Im not bored |
| 16:47.11 | Mugsy_ | I have this file: libXxf86dga.a |
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| 16:47.33 | Mugsy_ | Just not libXxf86dga.so.1 |
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| 16:47.37 | gozz | can i get the non US packages without reinstalling? |
| 16:47.40 | mwilson | maakud: I think you'd better try actually learning something about aptitude. |
| 16:47.46 | bob2 | Mugsy_: you can't do much, aside from ask them to build you a static version |
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| 16:48.04 | mwilson | maakud: Especially if you're going to be making statements like THAT one. |
| 16:48.04 | bob2 | dogmeat: apt-show-versions will help you find esting packages |
| 16:48.08 | moparfan90 | maakup, i had gnome owrking with ubuntu? sould i try anotyher x server? |
| 16:48.13 | maakud | moparfan90: why not running gnome with ubuntu? others may not agree but what is working is best even if debian is better :) |
| 16:48.14 | bob2 | dogmeat: but downgrading may not be possible, nonetheless |
| 16:48.31 | dogmeat | bob2: thanks ... will try |
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| 16:49.00 | EdLin | gozz: /topic |
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| 16:49.38 | rac | hello, please, can you tell if you can reach my web server at http://nature-auvergne.homelinux.org |
| 16:49.42 | moparfan90 | maakup, sould i try another X thing? |
| 16:49.47 | Mugsy_ | bob2: What do you mean static version, whats wrong? |
| 16:49.48 | moparfan90 | xfree86? |
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| 16:49.57 | sentinel | hi there, is it possible to force a user to logout? |
| 16:49.58 | maakud | mwilson: please make a debootstrap system to test and try to remove /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates on it. life will go on. |
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| 16:50.27 | SlayerXP | hi. i have a problem installing ia32-libs. I've reported the problem to the package maintainer and I've had no response in 65 days. I'd like to find out exactly why the package fails to install but I don't know dpkg well enough to work it out. Anyone up for giving me some pointers? |
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| 16:50.38 | gasper | hello |
| 16:50.51 | SlayerXP | sentinel: skill -9 <username> |
| 16:50.52 | moparfan90 | yello |
| 16:51.01 | bob2 | Mugsy_: whatever it is, it's not built for debian |
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| 16:51.16 | bob2 | sentinel: or slay |
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| 16:51.18 | EdLin | SlayerXP: wow, I was about to suggest an awk script. gnu tools rock. |
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| 16:51.23 | gasper | i'm installing amsn cvs, and returns me: configure: error: stdc++ library not found |
| 16:51.24 | gozz | well how can i use debian if it cant extract files so they can be installed? |
| 16:51.32 | gasper | could anyone help me pleaseŋ? |
| 16:51.33 | moparfan90 | maakup, sould i try another x server? maybe xfree86? |
| 16:51.37 | bob2 | gasper: so don't do that |
| 16:51.41 | bob2 | gasper: or install build-essential |
| 16:51.57 | gasper | ok i try it now |
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| 16:52.24 | bob2 | SlayerXP: does dpkg-deb -c on the .deb show ./emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 is in it? |
| 16:52.34 | webfreak | so i fixed that gnome issue |
| 16:52.38 | Mugsy_ | bob2: Okay, but I have XFree86 version 4.3, maybe it will work if I upgrade to 4.4? |
| 16:52.43 | EdLin | gozz: have you read the /topic ? It answers your question. |
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| 16:53.03 | webfreak | i just had to manually install libsoup 2.2-7 2.2.3 from the pool |
| 16:53.21 | SlayerXP | bob2: yes. |
| 16:53.27 | bob2 | Mugsy_: haha |
| 16:53.31 | EdLin | !topicbadger gozz |
| 16:53.31 | moparfan90 | bob2, do you have any suggesion? i dont know wht to do |
| 16:53.32 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that gozz didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 16:53.37 | Supaplex | how can I extract os X dmg files? (and/or create them for that matter) |
| 16:53.43 | Mc1brew | something tells me I should read /topic. |
| 16:53.47 | maakud | moparfan90: how did you install xserver-xorg. debian stable has xserver-xfree86. |
| 16:53.48 | webfreak | um... heh |
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| 16:53.54 | bob2 | moparfan90: I suggest asking on the debian-user list, or not using Debian until you're more comfortable with it |
| 16:53.54 | gozz | NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 16:53.55 | nightmaster | hello |
| 16:53.57 | bob2 | Supaplex: use mac os X |
| 16:53.59 | noble- | hmm, I'm having problems getting the VNC client to connect to the debian box |
| 16:54.06 | Supaplex | I don't have a freakin mac :P |
| 16:54.07 | gozz | means i cant get it correct |
| 16:54.14 | moparfan90 | im using "testing" version |
| 16:54.14 | sobersabre | hi guys... is cat6 cable ok to be pressed with plier to the male rj45 plug from both sides ? |
| 16:54.15 | EdLin | gozz: it means its in main |
| 16:54.20 | sandman | What does it mean when a processes status is "D"? Most of my others are "S" |
| 16:54.22 | SlayerXP | bob2: it shows the file itself, and three symlinks |
| 16:54.24 | bob2 | SlayerXP: does it have all the parent dirs? |
| 16:54.26 | sandman | I can't kill the process |
| 16:54.28 | Yulia | I wanna ask the reason why running a script wchich mounts smbs unit from /etc/rc5.d/S60sctipt asks me for password, and if i run oit in session it does not ask for it?? |
| 16:54.32 | sobersabre | i heard they're used to only connect to a socket, not the jack. |
| 16:54.37 | SlayerXP | bob2: I don't know what you mean |
| 16:54.37 | EdLin | gozz: which you'd figure out if you did the /msg dpkg command |
| 16:54.46 | mwilson | sobersabre: Of course not. |
| 16:54.57 | maakud | moparfan90: very serious q. please think carefully why you are running debian testing instead of debian stable or ubuntu. |
| 16:55.07 | mwilson | Yulia: Because you're doing it with a different set of user credentials, I'd imagine. |
| 16:55.12 | hogmeat | bob2: http://pastebin.ca/23287 this is the response from apt-get install commands ... |
| 16:55.15 | sobersabre | mwilson, sounded fishy for me from the start... fscking salesmen... |
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| 16:55.46 | moparfan90 | maakup, because someone else was trying to help me and tht what yhe told me to do |
| 16:55.51 | thecoolestcow | hey, i'm having trouble deciding between KDE and Gnome, what do you all suggest? i like eye candy, i run an x86 machine, 2.4 ghz 512 RAM |
| 16:55.53 | sobersabre | if you buy sockets, you will also have to buy more cables and 2 times more plastic connectors.... :) |
| 16:55.58 | chrio | sandman: D means Disk |
| 16:56.07 | nightmaster | SANDMAN. i love u |
| 16:56.16 | Yulia | mwilson, in /etc/rc5.d/ i am doing it as root, and as root too, but once i am in, it does not ask for password. |
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| 16:56.39 | maakud | moparfan90: you can choose. i chose debian stable. but if you absolutely latest video card from intel you may need xserver-xorg... |
| 16:56.42 | basix | why does named give this error? I have used the same configuration file that was given at debian.org's tut. foo.db Line 15: Unknown type: www. |
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| 16:56.59 | SlayerXP | bob2: http://channels.debian.net/paste/731 |
| 16:57.04 | bob2 | SlayerXP: in the listing from dpkg-deb -c, does it show each of the directories that file is in? |
| 16:57.04 | paolob | Hi guys! What packets should I install in order to have all greek fonts? thank you!! |
| 16:57.13 | thecoolestcow | hey, i'm having trouble deciding between KDE and Gnome, what do you all suggest? i like eye candy, i run an x86 machine, 2.4 ghz 512 RAM |
| 16:57.14 | mwilson | basix: You were given more than a few nice, simple examples of systems you could use. Why did you hit on using named? |
| 16:57.16 | maakud | basix: have you now installed bind? instead of pdnsd? |
| 16:57.30 | sobersabre | paolob, you should install the packets with SYN and ACK. |
| 16:57.31 | bob2 | basix: that's pretty useless if you don't show us foo.db |
| 16:57.35 | sobersabre | ;) |
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| 16:57.43 | EdLin | !tell thecoolestcow about repeat |
| 16:57.45 | mwilson | thecoolestcow: Uh, you wouldn't try both of them and choose the one you like because...? |
| 16:57.48 | moparfan90 | maakup. i think my card id detected and stuff it know the model nm\umber name and driveres so i dont know why its not working |
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| 16:57.52 | SlayerXP | bob2: yes, it appears to |
| 16:58.03 | sobersabre | seriously, run: apt-cache search greek |
| 16:58.07 | basix | mwilson, because thats what i have. atleast for now. |
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| 16:58.17 | basix | maakud, i already have bind |
| 16:58.17 | thecoolestcow | mwilson: i dont know enough about either. what will happen if i switch to KDE? |
| 16:58.18 | maakud | basix: (good name!) pdnsd satisfies most desktop/laptop requirements from dns. |
| 16:58.18 | sobersabre | and apt-cache search hella |
| 16:58.26 | mwilson | basix: No, that's what you have because that's what you installed. |
| 16:58.27 | sobersabre | and the chances are you find them.. |
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| 16:58.32 | bob2 | SlayerXP: does touch'ing that file manually, then trying to install help? |
| 16:58.36 | moparfan90 | i am installing xfree86 now to see if that works |
| 16:58.39 | mwilson | thecoolestcow: Uh, you'll be running KDE? |
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| 16:58.57 | SlayerXP | bob2: i tried unpacking the .deb, copying all the files into the location manually, and then installing, no joy. |
| 16:59.01 | moparfan90 | dont think it wl; |
| 16:59.05 | maakud | basix: even simplere is to find out the name server used by your ISP and put it in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 16:59.26 | bob2 | SlayerXP: hmm |
| 16:59.37 | mwilson | maakud: Which, of course, will do him exactly zero good, if you remember the *actual* problem he's trying to solve. |
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| 16:59.47 | Yulia | mwilson, i am mount them so-->mount -t smbfs -o username=yulia //192.168.1.2/datos /mnt/ficheros_makina/datos |
| 16:59.50 | maakud | basix: like so. nameserver my-isps-name.server. |
| 16:59.51 | EdLin | thecoolestcow: there are many different Linux desktops and window managers, asking which one is the "best" is liable to give you a bunch of uninformative answers. Try several out. |
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| 17:00.00 | fbi | i'm guessing 'thecoolestcow' can't grasp the idea of having more than one window manager installed |
| 17:00.00 | paolob | sobersabre: could you explain better? thanx! |
| 17:00.04 | moparfan90 | maakup, do you know if nvidia GeFource FX 5200 is supposted? |
| 17:00.13 | bob2 | SlayerXP: I'm outta ideas, sorry; maybe #debian-amd64 or the debian-amd64 list? |
| 17:00.25 | maakud | mwilson: im sorry. I thought he is trying to solve problem with www.yahoo.com name lookup failure. |
| 17:00.27 | hogmeat | bob2: should I go thru with the apt-get -f install ? it's recommending i remove 375 packages, including apt... |
| 17:00.29 | sobersabre | apt-cache search gives you the list of packages. you see them and short descriptions, and decide what you need. |
| 17:00.41 | bob2 | hogmeat: sounds like you're screwed then |
| 17:00.42 | sobersabre | later you can install them with apt-get install |
| 17:00.54 | darky | Has anyone ever been able to make a logitech quickcam work on debian ??? |
| 17:01.01 | Yulia | mwilson, and problem is sistem file mounted is root owner and i wanted to change it to user, but it fails |
| 17:01.11 | maakud | moparfan90: actually. no. i know that some GeForce cards are supported. |
| 17:01.13 | hogmeat | bob2: well maybe i can re-install them by hand if necessary.. ? |
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| 17:01.23 | moparfan90 | ok |
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| 17:01.30 | bob2 | hogmeat: if apt gets removed, you're pretty fucked |
| 17:01.35 | bob2 | that shows something went terribly wrong |
| 17:01.41 | sobersabre | paolob, are you ok ? |
| 17:01.47 | xnet | on my router i have a peticular port set for azureus and azureus set to listen on that port, does anyone know why i still get an NAT error? |
| 17:01.50 | bob2 | hogmeat: pinning to sarge and running dist-upgrade is probably simpler; man apt_preferences |
| 17:01.54 | basix | bob2, here you go http://channels.debian.net/paste/732 |
| 17:02.11 | moparfan90 | maakup, do you know what i can do? |
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| 17:02.33 | emergo | sane-find-scanner finds my hp5200c with libus..., but only as root, why ? |
| 17:02.41 | gozz | so how do i jump through the hoops? that link is dead |
| 17:02.44 | paolob | sobersabre: no, I couldn't understand your answer about SYN and ACK. What are you referring to? |
| 17:02.48 | mwilson | Yulia: You asked for a reason, I offered a possible one. That does not mean I offered to diagnose the problem for you. I have no idea why you think you need to write a script to mount a SMB share, rather than letting the system handle it itself via fstab. |
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| 17:03.11 | sandman | What's the opposite of scroll_end in irssi? |
| 17:03.14 | Oliver123 | somebody know where is locatet QT Libraries and Headers in Debian ?? ( I instaled it) |
| 17:03.20 | sobersabre | paolob, that part was a joke. because it is "packages" and not "packets", in russian it is also "packets" |
| 17:03.37 | bob2 | Oliver123: install libqt3-mt-dev, read /usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt-dev/README.Debian |
| 17:03.44 | EdLin | !tell gozz about crypto in main |
| 17:03.48 | SlayerXP | bob2: the dpkg error is: unable to create `./emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2': No such file or directory |
| 17:04.02 | sobersabre | do you have X installed ? |
| 17:04.09 | sobersabre | paolob, |
| 17:04.10 | sobersabre | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.19 | EdLin | gozz: read it a bit more carefully |
| 17:04.21 | sandman | I have a copy process that apparently died. |
| 17:04.21 | bob2 | SlayerXP: yeah, which made me think it was puking on one of paths above it not existing, but yo usaid creating them naully did not help |
| 17:04.26 | bob2 | so I dunno what dpkg is complaining about |
| 17:04.30 | sandman | And I cannot kill it, and I forced an unmount while it was going on |
| 17:04.47 | sandman | The filesystem cp was working with is now unmounted, but it's still trying to copy the file. |
| 17:04.49 | paolob | sobersabre: but you can help me with greek packets? |
| 17:04.50 | sandman | Definately quite strange |
| 17:04.53 | SlayerXP | bob2: "mkdir -p" changes nothing |
| 17:05.03 | bob2 | SlayerXP: yeah, so I'm pretty lost, sorry |
| 17:05.08 | SlayerXP | np |
| 17:05.08 | Yulia | mwilson, cause with fstab does not know how to do it |
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| 17:05.25 | mwilson | bob2: Didn't I see a bug report recently from someone complaining about packages installing with dot-paths? I remember it ending with "all debs have paths like that in them", but other than that... |
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| 17:05.53 | maakud | moparfan90: there is somewhere a list of supported hardware. ask around someone may know. |
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| 17:06.07 | mwilson | Yulia: Except that it does, of course. |
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| 17:06.25 | moparfan90 | does anyone know where there is list of suppoted hard ware for debian? |
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| 17:06.52 | SlayerXP | moparfan90: there's a list of supported hardware for linux. |
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| 17:07.28 | maakud | i think moparfan90 wants a list of supported video hardware for xserver in debian stable. |
| 17:07.30 | sobersabre | paolob, you need to install fonts packages. to find names, run this command: "apt-cache search greek" |
| 17:07.35 | Yulia | mwilson, so know how to mount it using fstab? |
| 17:08.03 | sobersabre | then see what you think you may need, choose ( copy into some file ) |
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| 17:08.14 | sobersabre | paolob, do you already have X installed ? |
| 17:08.15 | mamar | Hi |
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| 17:08.56 | mwilson | Yulia: man mount, man fstab |
| 17:09.16 | maakud | moparfan90: also check the debian web site for installation manual. it may have a pointer to such a list. |
| 17:09.29 | moparfan90 | ok |
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| 17:10.25 | maakud | moparfan90: best of luck with debian stable. i don;t think you'll need it (the luck I mean---things are pretty smooth). |
| 17:10.30 | gozz | how do i change my sources? |
| 17:10.38 | moparfan90 | ok thanks maakup |
| 17:10.46 | xnet | does debian come with a firewall? |
| 17:10.49 | moparfan90 | //// |
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| 17:10.57 | sobersabre | yes, xnet |
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| 17:11.12 | xnet | how do i change its settings? |
| 17:11.16 | bob2 | xnet: not one that does anything |
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| 17:11.19 | maakud | xnet: debian comes with a number of firewall configuration utilities. |
| 17:11.20 | bob2 | xnet: by default it does nothing |
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| 17:11.33 | xnet | dig thanks guys |
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| 17:11.49 | bob2 | "time becomes a loop" by orbital is possibly the most annoying song, ever |
| 17:11.57 | DeathStorm | hmmm, is there a way to use .run files with debian? |
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| 17:12.13 | maakud | bob2: switch to worldspace. this is not an ad. |
| 17:12.14 | sobersabre | bob2, no, there's this group, with those terrible songs really... |
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| 17:12.49 | whatever | bob2: "halcyon and on and on" by orbital is probably my favorite song of all time.... and can't say I can remember "time becomes a loop" |
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| 17:13.13 | bob2 | whatever: yeah, listening to a live version of that atm, it makes up for the loop one |
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| 17:13.34 | whatever | bob2: there is a live version? :O <3 |
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| 17:13.47 | maakud | gozz: whats your problem? |
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| 17:14.12 | bob2 | whatever: from "In Sides" |
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| 17:14.20 | cantona | anyone use ltsp? |
| 17:14.21 | maakud | DeathStorm: what are .run files? |
| 17:14.38 | cantona | i boot from PXE but TFTP Error - Access violation ?? |
| 17:14.40 | Yulia | mwilson, would be possoble fot mount vfat fs using nfs? |
| 17:14.40 | quittt | wtf hapenned with debian menu? |
| 17:14.43 | maakud | cantona: as far as i know a lot of people use ltsp. |
| 17:14.44 | quittt | everything is two times |
| 17:14.55 | quittt | I have two icons for each applications |
| 17:14.57 | darkness1 | I know this is not poilcy for debian.But is getting banned from a network talking about people who have committed suicide ban-able.I mean people have to help these guys who have been ignored and killed themselfs surely? |
| 17:14.57 | sobersabre | bob2, got it "the Shaggs" ... have you ever heard of them ?!? |
| 17:15.11 | DeathStorm | it's a binary file for a game I'm trying to, I got it to run, but it says I need the Dialog program |
| 17:15.12 | cantona | maakud: can you help? |
| 17:15.15 | quittt | wtf? |
| 17:15.19 | bob2 | sobersabre: haha |
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| 17:15.32 | whatever | bob2: sweet. hopefully I can track it down. |
| 17:15.33 | bob2 | sobersabre: as of last week, yeah; apparently everyone who hears them loves them or hates them |
| 17:15.34 | sobersabre | bob2, if we're talking about "nasty" music... |
| 17:15.35 | maakud | cantona: this means that your are trying to load image from network server and it is not willing to permit you. |
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| 17:16.00 | cantona | maakud: but why? i miss something? |
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| 17:16.31 | maakud | cantona: are you trying to boot from network server? |
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| 17:16.37 | sobersabre | bob2, so what's your opinion ? |
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| 17:16.44 | cantona | maakud: yes |
| 17:16.44 | quittt | WTF! |
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| 17:16.56 | whatever | sobersabre: ...what style of music are they? |
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| 17:17.08 | hogmeat | is fuse the best way to mount an ftp site? |
| 17:17.08 | maakud | cantona: then that server has to be properly set up to allow you access the tftp files. |
| 17:17.08 | noble- | I still can't seem to get the VNCviewer to connect to the debian box. can anyone help? |
| 17:17.16 | quittt | wtf hapenned with debian menu |
| 17:17.17 | bob2 | sobersabre: I'm yet to hear them |
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| 17:17.44 | sobersabre | bob2, i can send you a song... |
| 17:17.47 | sobersabre | do you want ? |
| 17:17.50 | cantona | maakud: i set the server myself.......and even I tftp 127.0.0.1 , get /tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.26-ltsp-3 dont work |
| 17:17.53 | maakud | hogmeat: until we get to the Debian/GNU/Hurd! |
| 17:17.54 | timlinux | hi can someone remind me the name of the apt that offers to let you install package selections (it usually appears at teh end of the initial install process with options like 'desktop' 'fileserver' etc) |
| 17:17.57 | quittt | can you answer my fucking question? |
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| 17:18.05 | whatever | nothings coming up on isohunt for "the shaggs" "shaggs" or any other version :P |
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| 17:18.25 | maakud | cantona: no. it is not tftp from local host. it is tftp from the remote host that is the problem. |
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| 17:18.43 | thecoolestcow | hey guys, i just installed KDE, i'm a n00b: how do i switch over to it, and/or back to gnome when i want |
| 17:18.44 | black_13 | is there a debian prog that will take the file list and remove the files post deb package install? |
| 17:18.55 | bob2 | timlinux: tasksel |
| 17:18.57 | cantona | maakud: i think i miss the setting of inetd.conf? |
| 17:19.03 | bob2 | black_13: no |
| 17:19.06 | maakud | cantona: im sorry but i cannot help you further as i do not have repcise knowledge about ltsp. i just diagnosed your error message on general principles. |
| 17:19.09 | DeathStorm | okay I got it, just had to install dialog from synpatic and use sh to run it |
| 17:19.09 | hogmeat | maakud: ok i built fuse-source, then discovered that the module was already a deb package (:/). i had to deinstall the gcc which partially hosed my sys (im good at that!) |
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| 17:19.13 | bob2 | black_13: not unless you hack the dpkg file list for that package |
| 17:19.14 | EdLin | thecoolestcow: that depends upon which display manager you're using |
| 17:19.16 | timlinux | thecoolestcow: there should be an option on your initial login screend name 'session' |
| 17:19.23 | timlinux | bob2: thanks! |
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| 17:19.33 | black_13 | bob2 i would have to write a script |
| 17:19.36 | slack7384 | thecoolestcow - click the session option and choose the d.e. of your choice |
| 17:19.37 | l0l0 | thecoolestcow: Are you using a window manager a la kdm/gdm ? It should be possible to select your session while logging in |
| 17:20.01 | thecoolestcow | ok i have Gnome installed, so when i log-in, i'll have the option to switch to KDE? |
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| 17:20.09 | maakud | maakud: why did you remove gcc? useful tool. |
| 17:20.16 | bob2 | black_13: or just have them removed by the postrm |
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| 17:20.25 | maakud | s/maakud/hogmeat/ |
| 17:20.27 | gozz | "gedit" wont work what do i edit my sources.list with? |
| 17:20.27 | fr4nkster | Anybody know why discover causes loads of modules to panic when it runs? |
| 17:20.32 | black_13 | bob2 postrm? |
| 17:20.35 | robin_sz | maakud: removingit from servers is a common thing to do |
| 17:20.41 | slack7384 | thecoolestcow - should be gdm per se on a default install, you have to choose at the login screen: choose session -> choose KDE ->OK -> Login |
| 17:20.49 | bob2 | black_13: the post-removal script |
| 17:20.52 | maakud | robin_sz: oh. security from programmers. |
| 17:20.53 | gozz | i cant find emacs |
| 17:21.01 | whatever | bob2: "Live at Dancevalley 2001 Holland August 04, 2001" ? |
| 17:21.01 | thecoolestcow | slack7384: ok i'll try it |
| 17:21.01 | bob2 | gozz: emacs21 |
| 17:21.12 | EdLin | gozz: nano, vi |
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| 17:21.26 | cantona | maakud: it is ok :) |
| 17:21.30 | robin_sz | maakud: yeah, and virii .. most of the recet attacks have relied on compiling some source fragments on the compromised machine |
| 17:21.31 | slack7384 | gozz: vim |
| 17:21.35 | maakud | gozz: there is always ed. no that is a joke. :) |
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| 17:21.58 | slack7384 | gozz: Xemacs |
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| 17:22.11 | maakud | hogmeat: fuse or lufs can mount network services as file systems. |
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| 17:22.24 | EdLin | maakud: it's handy to know a bit about ed so that you can fix things if your termcap gets hosed. |
| 17:22.28 | hogmeat | maakud: thanks |
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| 17:22.51 | sobersabre | bye all |
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| 17:23.32 | maakud | robin_sz: so the viruses are achieving defeat of open source. if no compiler then how will people compile the source? it is a very small joke. |
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| 17:23.54 | xirjs | i look for a tool to savely convert text-files from iso to utf8 and/or from utf8 to any iso ... charencoding ... gedit does not work in this way ... any other ideas? |
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| 17:24.02 | hogmeat | maakud: oh i needed to replace the gcc-3.3.6 with gcc-3.3.5 because the fuse.ko module that was being built from fuse-source was incompatiable resulting in modprobe fuse not working. i downgraded to gcc-3.3.5, which has caused all sorts of havok with apt |
| 17:24.06 | fr4nkster | im having a problem where discover causes numerous kernel panics on startup as it probes all the modules. Does anybody have any idea why this might be happening? |
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| 17:24.41 | hogmeat | maakud: but i was able to build fuse-source. the irony was the fuse module was already a package in the apt system. |
| 17:24.43 | maakud | xirjs: apt-get install unicode |
| 17:24.53 | noble- | does the Tightvncserver need to be run from root? |
| 17:25.01 | EdLin | fr4nkster: there's no such thing as numerous kernel panics on start-up. A kernel panic makes a system halt in its tracks |
| 17:25.23 | maakud | hogmeat: i get it. fuse source and lufs source a little on the unmaintained side. |
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| 17:27.30 | fr4nkster | EdLink: I get this happening, followed by a stackdump: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 |
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| 17:27.57 | Evil_Devil | hi |
| 17:27.57 | Evil_Devil | how can i delete the previously saved session because evrey time i log in it is loading the old session |
| 17:28.17 | emergo | I can run xsane on my hp 5200C scanner as root only. how can I fix this kernel 2.6 ... |
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| 17:28.26 | EdLin | fr4nkster: strange |
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| 17:29.00 | cahoot | emergo: let user join the scanner group? |
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| 17:29.49 | emergo | cahoot: proc/usb/002/003 is owned by root.root, so I guess it doesnt help |
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| 17:31.05 | noble- | I still can't seem to get the VNCviewer to connect to the debian box. can anyone help? |
| 17:31.12 | Evil_Devil | can someone help me? |
| 17:31.14 | Yulia | mwilson, it should go but it fails: /192.168.1.2/datos /mnt/ficheros_makina/datos smbfs rw,user=yulia,noauto,password='' |
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| 17:32.09 | slack7384 | Evil_Devil - I would if I knew the answer ;-) |
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| 17:32.17 | emergo | cahoot: thank you. I looked at the wrong place ... uhummmm |
| 17:32.18 | cahoot | emergo: read the info in /usr/share/doc/libsane |
| 17:32.22 | Evil_Devil | :) |
| 17:32.31 | cahoot | ok |
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| 17:33.10 | Yulia | what i am doing wrong to mount smbs fs?? 192.168.1.2/datos /mnt/ficheros_makina/datos smbfs rw,user=yulia,noauto,password='' |
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| 17:33.31 | emergo | cahoot: when I chane the group do I have to login again ? |
| 17:33.35 | Evil_Devil | well if anybody dont know the answer then where can i search for it? |
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| 17:34.15 | cahoot | emergo: thats' the simplest way |
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| 17:35.16 | Yulia | is not ok? |
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| 17:38.06 | ma3x | grave bugs of kdebase (4:3.4.2-2 -> 4:3.4.2-3) <done> |
| 17:38.07 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.07 | ma3x | should i install it anyway? |
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| 17:38.20 | ma3x | what means <done>? |
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| 17:38.38 | gromgull | why oh why doesn't 2.6.8. compile with gcc4... |
| 17:39.00 | bob2 | because its old |
| 17:39.03 | Bac9 | gromgull: gcc4 is default compiler |
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| 17:39.27 | gromgull | I know it's the default, but it still doesn't compile |
| 17:39.27 | ma3x | gcc4 rules! |
| 17:39.31 | gromgull | in fact it doesn't even config |
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| 17:39.40 | Bac9 | ma3x: <done> means solved |
| 17:39.47 | ma3x | Bac9, means no more bug? |
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| 17:39.52 | Bac9 | ma3x: yes |
| 17:40.07 | argand | hi!, how can learn whether i need a kernel rebuild to enable framebuffer for console (i use sarge and i am a pretty newbie), i installed fbset but when i try tu change the console resolution i get "open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory" message |
| 17:40.08 | Bac9 | ma3x: <open> means more bug |
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| 17:40.31 | Bac9 | argand: did you load fb modules? |
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| 17:40.54 | ma3x | Bac9, so why is it still displaying during the installation? |
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| 17:41.15 | Bac9 | ma3x: it's new stuff since last version on your box |
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| 17:41.18 | argand | i see vesafb module in the /dev.... directory |
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| 17:41.51 | Bac9 | argand: vesafb is not what you probably want unless you don't have a recent (5yo or less) card |
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| 17:41.59 | ma3x | Bac9, if I submit a bug, will it say <open>, or somebody should review the bug and put it there? |
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| 17:42.11 | ma3x | i.e. are the bugs of every user listed during the installation? |
| 17:42.11 | ma3x | or some dude is reviewing them firsst, and then decides what to put there |
| 17:42.11 | ma3x | Bac9, what are you tyalking about? |
| 17:42.16 | noble- | cany anyone help me with tightvncserver? |
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| 17:42.25 | Bac9 | ma3x: ?? |
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| 17:42.46 | argand | bac9: my card is very old actually, , use a geforce mx 2 |
| 17:42.51 | Bac9 | ma3x: all bugs are for a package, not for a user |
| 17:42.53 | pzn | Hi! Can you recommend a package where I can edit the bounding box of a PostScript file? I need to remove blank margins |
| 17:43.14 | pzn | noble-, yes, please describe your problem/what you want to do... |
| 17:43.22 | Bac9 | argand: hm, check the fb modules available, is ther one for geforce? |
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| 17:43.48 | Bac9 | argand: my card is probably 7yo and there's an fb module for it |
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| 17:44.06 | noble- | pzn, I have the tightvncserver running on my debian box, I'm trying to connect from my windows box. It's connecting, but the window is a solid grey. blank of any info what so ever |
| 17:44.31 | ma3x | Bac9, when you install a package, it warns you of a bug, right? |
| 17:44.50 | kimo | noble-, in ur ~/.vnc/xstartup, launch xterm before starting X |
| 17:44.52 | ma3x | Bac9, so that bug has been submited by a user, and reviewed by package staff and put there? |
| 17:44.55 | argand | Bac9: i read that nvida had problems with its native modules because of that i want to use vesafb |
| 17:45.19 | pzn | noble-, check kimo hint. that is the problem. no xterm is running... |
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| 17:45.32 | yang | I got a big list of words, I would like that it display just those that have 3 letters in the word, is there a way i could do that? |
| 17:45.37 | quittt | what is hapenning with debian? |
| 17:45.39 | noble- | ok, checking |
| 17:45.43 | quittt | it has lots of problems in testing |
| 17:45.53 | quittt | fbsetbg: Something went wrong while setting the wallpaper. |
| 17:45.53 | quittt | Run 'display -geometry 1024x768+0+0 -window root /home/pedro/.fluxbox/backgrounds/BeyondTheGraceOfGod1-0.jpg' from an xterm to find out what. |
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| 17:45.56 | kimo | noble-, u might wanna start someting useful like "gnome-session" or "startkde" instead of the xterm |
| 17:46.19 | subgv | my GRUB setting timeout is set to 0, what button do I push to get the menu list in startup? I know in lilo that pushing CTRL or SHIFT will direct me to the boot menulist. |
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| 17:46.22 | noble- | hmm, I don't think xterm is installed |
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| 17:46.39 | noble- | I figured I'd get an error from tightvncserver if there was a problem |
| 17:46.40 | reddi | can someone help me in configuring tvout ? |
| 17:46.56 | reddi | as i know there is a file called "XF86...." in X11 |
| 17:46.58 | argand | cd /lib/modules/2.8.11-bla bla /kernel/drivers/video here i see "vesafb.ko" is this the module |
| 17:47.01 | Bac9 | ma3x: probably |
| 17:47.01 | kimo | noble-, there is no problem. It's just that nothing useful is running |
| 17:47.20 | noble- | well, which would you recommend? |
| 17:47.21 | reddi | how do i change lines in that file and test it out without rebooting? |
| 17:47.24 | pzn | noble-, you may also try to run /usr/bin/x-session-manager in ~/.vnc/xstartup |
| 17:47.27 | noble- | gnome or startkde? |
| 17:47.30 | Bac9 | argand: vesafb is slow, I wouldn't recomend its user unless nothing else works |
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| 17:47.48 | ma3x | Bac9, Rock`n`n` rollll |
| 17:48.01 | kimo | noble-, kde |
| 17:48.21 | gozz | i just added full access for my user account and the editors keep opening read only how can i fix this? |
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| 17:48.43 | Oliver123 | somebody use FFmpeg ?? |
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| 17:48.50 | argand | Bac9: should i look for nvidia modules?, i read many problems about them |
| 17:48.55 | noble- | whew, that's gonna take awhile to download |
| 17:48.58 | quittt | what is hapenning |
| 17:49.00 | quittt | WHAT IS HAPENNING |
| 17:49.02 | noble- | 585mb |
| 17:49.24 | kimo | noble-, whats that! |
| 17:49.28 | noble- | kde |
| 17:49.38 | kimo | noble-, r u installing it |
| 17:49.43 | noble- | using apt-get |
| 17:50.01 | argand | and here what i get when i modeprobe: modprobe vesafb.ko FATAL: Module vesafb.ko not found. |
| 17:50.04 | kimo | noble-, ahh, if u just wanna test, u could try icewm or fluxbox |
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| 17:50.23 | nightmaster | im bored |
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| 17:50.31 | jbroome | !dance |
| 17:50.33 | noble- | I installed the minimal bootable iso, so I'm having to download everything that I find out I need, lol |
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| 17:50.36 | robin_sz | quittt: did anyone answer your "fucking question"? |
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| 17:51.07 | jbroome | nightmaster: did that help? |
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| 17:51.21 | nightmaster | lol. it did |
| 17:51.26 | jbroome | excellent |
| 17:51.31 | gozz | i cant use my root account cause the gnome deshktop manager wont let me login as root and wont let me exit to shell |
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| 17:51.45 | nightmaster | why is dpkg not busy unzipping packages |
| 17:51.50 | nkuttler | gozz: su in a shell |
| 17:51.51 | robin_sz | i was bored too, but I resolved to solve that problem by winding up quittt :) |
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| 17:52.32 | Bac9 | argand: donno about nvidea problems since I don't have nvidia card |
| 17:52.46 | nightmaster | lets do something,. can everyone say the WM/DE you se |
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| 17:53.17 | hogmeat | bob2: still here? |
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| 17:53.34 | riv3t | hello |
| 17:53.40 | jbroome | Aqua :P |
| 17:53.50 | nightmaster | AQUA????!!!!!! |
| 17:53.51 | riv3t | when I startx I get this error "unable to initalize core devices" |
| 17:54.04 | riv3t | Is that something to do with my video card? |
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| 17:54.18 | bob2 | hogmeat: ? |
| 17:54.22 | nightmaster | like os x aqua? |
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| 17:54.36 | jbroome | yeah |
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| 17:54.43 | jbroome | debian is my mail/web server though |
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| 17:55.12 | argand | Bac9: because of that problems i wanted to use vesafb, i need a high-res non-flickering console (it works i think under 60hz default), thx for your help i ll google more |
| 17:55.22 | nightmaster | oh so ur on osx? |
| 17:55.33 | hogmeat | bob2: i was able to get apt-show-versions install. i ran the util, if you could advise please ... http://channels.debian.net/paste/733 |
| 17:55.37 | riv3t | hello? |
| 17:55.52 | riv3t | hmm |
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| 17:55.56 | kimo | anyone knows why I cant have remote display on xorg!! I tried xhost/setenv DISPLAY/nolisten tcp/ !! Any other thing |
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| 17:56.03 | bob2 | hogmeat: great |
| 17:56.08 | riv3t | when I startx I get this error "unable to initalize core devices" |
| 17:56.08 | JohnFlux | " Lucovsky said in a sworn statement that after he told Ballmer about his plans to move to Google, the beefy CEO threw a chair and cursed Google's chief executive. "F__ing Eric Schmidt is a f__ing pussy. I'm going to f__ing bury that guy.... I'm going to f__ing kill Google," Ballmer said, according to Lucovsky. In a statement, Ballmer calls Lucovsky's account "a gross exaggeration of what actually took place."" |
| 17:56.11 | bob2 | kimo: ssh instead |
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| 17:56.21 | sandman | What's the significance of CHOST? |
| 17:56.21 | JohnFlux | riv3t: it didn't detect your mouse |
| 17:56.23 | deadcat | riv3t: what card? |
| 17:56.24 | kimo | bob2, cant do, we have tons of scripts using rsh |
| 17:56.26 | gozz | when i su root in shell i start the editor and my keyboard does not function correctly |
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| 17:56.32 | bob2 | kimo: then you've already lost |
| 17:56.35 | riv3t | Gforce2 32mb pci |
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| 17:56.41 | riv3t | Is that to do with my mouse? |
| 17:56.42 | JohnFlux | deadcat: isn't "core devices" always refereing to the mouse? |
| 17:56.44 | riv3t | is that all? |
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| 17:56.46 | kimo | bob2, ! why, rlogin should work |
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| 17:56.53 | pzn | any hint about removing blank borders of eps/ps figures? I have about 30 figures to do it... any package? |
| 17:56.54 | riv3t | okay, I will try again |
| 17:56.54 | nkuttler | gozz: what are you doing? |
| 17:56.55 | riv3t | brb |
| 17:57.09 | deadcat | JohnFlux: no clue (= |
| 17:57.15 | nkuttler | pzn: imagemagick can do that iirc |
| 17:57.18 | gozz | im trying to edit the apt sources.list |
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| 17:57.26 | deadcat | JohnFlux: usually i assume the problem is the card. not the mouse hehe |
| 17:57.43 | nkuttler | gozz: are you in x? |
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| 17:57.49 | m0rtix | hi, what is the file what i must modify for have a screen resolution to 1024 x 768 ? |
| 17:57.50 | gozz | yes |
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| 17:58.00 | nkuttler | gozz: what terminal do you use? |
| 17:58.10 | gozz | konsole |
| 17:58.21 | kimo | m0rtix, /etc/X11/xorg/xorg.conf |
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| 17:58.29 | m0rtix | thx U |
| 17:58.31 | nkuttler | gozz: and when you are not root, your keyboard works correctly in konsole? |
| 17:58.34 | pzn | nkuttler, will it convert to bitmap? all the files are vector based drawings... |
| 17:58.37 | bob2 | kimo: you have got to be kidding |
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| 17:58.42 | gozz | yes |
| 17:58.52 | riv3t | I still get the same error |
| 17:58.57 | riv3t | It's only a ps/2 mouse |
| 17:58.57 | kimo | bob2, why |
| 17:59.02 | riv3t | I have tred auto and ps/2 |
| 17:59.08 | bob2 | kimo: people actually use rlogin in the real world, still? |
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| 17:59.11 | nkuttler | pzn: you can convert to anything, i don't know if you can do what you want with ps though |
| 17:59.21 | m0rtix | kimo: i have xfree :/ |
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| 17:59.24 | gozz | it works as root in console but not once i start the editor |
| 17:59.27 | deadcat | what video driver do you guys use to play movie which displays to external output(projector) |
| 17:59.28 | riv3t | It's a Gforce2 32mb pci |
| 17:59.32 | nkuttler | pzn: search the man pages for shove (iirc) |
| 17:59.37 | fbi | riv3t: ever thought about reading the log for the actual error? |
| 17:59.45 | riv3t | how? |
| 17:59.46 | nkuttler | gozz: which editor? |
| 17:59.47 | kimo | bob2, and in major corporations if I may add |
| 17:59.51 | bob2 | haha |
| 17:59.53 | gozz | gvim |
| 18:00.00 | nkuttler | gozz: ... |
| 18:00.01 | riv3t | I'm a n00b |
| 18:00.01 | fbi | rive3t: it should give you the filepath to the log right after it errors |
| 18:00.08 | m0rtix | hi, what is the file what i must modify for have a screen resolution to 1024 x 768 ? (xfree86) |
| 18:00.13 | deadcat | riv3t: that makes you invinsible? |
| 18:00.15 | nkuttler | gozz: gvim opens its own window, doesn't it? |
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| 18:00.24 | gozz | ya |
| 18:00.28 | kimo | m0rtix, /etc/X11/XFree86 |
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| 18:00.35 | nkuttler | gozz: think about that |
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| 18:00.46 | Phated | That would be /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 18:00.53 | kimo | bob2, any idea what would actually stop a remote X connection? |
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| 18:00.58 | nkuttler | gozz: hint: use vim |
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| 18:01.14 | bob2 | kimo: sure, Debian disables it for security reasons |
| 18:01.21 | bob2 | kimo: grep -r nolisten /etc/X11 |
| 18:01.36 | riv3t | I can't really see an erro |
| 18:01.44 | riv3t | what should I be looking for? |
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| 18:01.49 | m0rtix | Phated: XF86Config-4 doesn't want give me a 1024x768... |
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| 18:01.53 | fbi | riv3t: anything (EE) |
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| 18:02.07 | Phated | m0rtix: <shrug> |
| 18:02.09 | Phated | !drxx m0rtix |
| 18:02.10 | dpkg | m0rtix: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:02.19 | lila | is there a program to help me configure my mouse? it's a normal ps2 mouse with two buttons, but it's acting weird in X. |
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| 18:02.35 | kimo | bob2, I already squashed the nolisten option, anything else? I doubt xauth cookies are refusing to be stored on NFS homes! Is this relevant |
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| 18:02.47 | nkuttler | lila: select a different protocol, mdetect might help |
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| 18:02.56 | EdLin | lila: dpkg-reconfigure it, this time telling it to use /dev/psaux |
| 18:03.04 | riv3t | The only errors I can see are about fonts? |
| 18:03.12 | m0rtix | SubSection "Display" |
| 18:03.12 | m0rtix | Depth15 |
| 18:03.13 | m0rtix | Modes"800x600" "640x480" "768x1024" |
| 18:03.19 | fbi | riv3t: hmm, might be your fonts then? |
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| 18:03.29 | m0rtix | it's same to before... |
| 18:03.39 | m0rtix | i have add 768x1024 |
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| 18:03.42 | Phated | Ehm... 1024x768... |
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| 18:03.50 | pzn | m0rtix, 1024x768! |
| 18:03.53 | Phated | And you want to put it BEFORE 800x600. |
| 18:03.55 | m0rtix | lOl |
| 18:04.03 | lila | nkuttler: where do I specify this protocol, cant see something like that in XF86Config-4 |
| 18:04.04 | Phated | That makes it the default. |
| 18:04.07 | jbroome | heh |
| 18:04.09 | ma3x | !tell m0rtix about lol |
| 18:04.19 | quittt | WTF HAPENNED WITH DEBIAN |
| 18:04.21 | quittt | gnome |
| 18:04.23 | quittt | in debian menu it show two times the same app |
| 18:04.23 | riv3t | ohh |
| 18:04.25 | riv3t | found it |
| 18:04.27 | valdyn | !drxx lila |
| 18:04.27 | quittt | !tell quittt about lol |
| 18:04.28 | dpkg | lila: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 18:04.31 | riv3t | cannot open /dev/mouse |
| 18:04.31 | bob2 | quittt: stop being so annoying |
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| 18:04.34 | riv3t | no such device |
| 18:04.42 | chealer | quittt, WTF!!!!! |
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| 18:05.00 | riv3t | no core pointer |
| 18:05.01 | fbi | riv3t: reconfigure X, and stop lying to debconf about your input devices |
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| 18:05.10 | quittt | bob2, do you have those problems? |
| 18:05.12 | riv3t | it's only a acer ps/2 mouse |
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| 18:05.16 | Phated | /dev/input/mice? |
| 18:05.21 | riv3t | what should I choose? |
| 18:05.24 | Phated | //dev/psaux? |
| 18:05.28 | riv3t | okay |
| 18:05.30 | Phated | Ehm, single slash there. |
| 18:05.31 | reddi | can someone help me in configuring tvout in XF86Config-4 ? |
| 18:05.36 | riv3t | I done ps2 and auto before |
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| 18:05.41 | halmetti | lo |
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| 18:06.09 | riv3t | I should do xf86config as root? |
| 18:06.22 | valdyn | riv3t: no, dont do it at all |
| 18:06.28 | riv3t | what then? |
| 18:06.29 | EdLin | riv3t: no, because then dpkg won't be able to update things |
| 18:06.31 | valdyn | !drxx riv3t |
| 18:06.32 | m0rtix | i reboot X |
| 18:06.32 | dpkg | riv3t: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:06.46 | abrotman | !tell m0rtix-BNC about away |
| 18:06.53 | valdyn | !tell m0rtix-BNC -about away |
| 18:07.05 | EdLin | GMTA |
| 18:07.10 | reddi | i what about using different resolutions on monitor and tv? |
| 18:07.14 | reddi | is that possible under unix? |
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| 18:07.32 | bob2 | it's not a unix question |
| 18:07.33 | bob2 | it's an X one |
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| 18:07.50 | valdyn | reddi: "unix" isnt the deciding factor, X does support anything, your gfx cards driver might or might not |
| 18:07.51 | halmetti | what was that easiest way to add apt-get sources? where was list from main mirrors |
| 18:08.05 | valdyn | halmetti: run apt-setup |
| 18:08.06 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 18:08.18 | reddi | valdyn and how do i find out if my gfx card driver might support that? |
| 18:08.21 | halmetti | tnx |
| 18:08.30 | jbroome | reddi: GTFW |
| 18:08.38 | valdyn | reddi: read the manual? |
| 18:08.47 | Supaplex | study the source |
| 18:08.51 | Supaplex | </smirk> |
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| 18:09.15 | reddi | valdyn: i dont have any manual, bought the card without manual etc.... |
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| 18:09.33 | valdyn | reddi: im not talking about your cards manual but the X docs |
| 18:09.38 | riv3t | YESSSS |
| 18:09.41 | riv3t | oh yeah baby! |
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| 18:09.43 | valdyn | reddi: http://www.xfree86.org I guess |
| 18:09.47 | riv3t | I got the sucker working! |
| 18:09.48 | riv3t | :) |
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| 18:09.52 | riv3t | cheers guys |
| 18:10.02 | Supaplex | riv3t: flavored lube? ;) |
| 18:10.08 | riv3t | :p |
| 18:10.17 | valdyn | reddi: or just google for card and 'tvout' |
| 18:10.20 | riv3t | whats to command to point blackbox to X? |
| 18:10.20 | lila | valdyn: I have indeed modified XF86Config-4 by hand, what's this xmd5? |
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| 18:10.29 | riv3t | something like echo blacbox > ???? |
| 18:10.29 | valdyn | lila: read it? |
| 18:10.32 | valdyn | !xmd5 |
| 18:10.32 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
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| 18:10.46 | reddi | valdyn: that does not answer the question if my card does support different resolutions or not !? |
| 18:10.57 | victor__ | >> ~/.xinitrc |
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| 18:11.04 | ke6isf | reddi: What flavor of card is this? |
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| 18:11.09 | valdyn | reddi: you asked about tvout.. |
| 18:11.31 | reddi | valdyn: yes, with an addition comment about different resolutions |
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| 18:12.03 | lila | valdyn: the other way around, can I recover the original XF86Config-4 file instead of copying the new md5sum under /var/lib? |
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| 18:12.09 | valdyn | reddi: modern cards do support the tv like an independent display, my glass bowl is dark today so i cant tell if yours does |
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| 18:12.39 | valdyn | lila: if you backed it up, sure |
| 18:12.49 | reddi | valdyn: is there no command like dpkg reconfigure... -> so i have to edit the file by hand? |
| 18:12.55 | lila | valdyn: haven't, so I'll do the md5sum thing. thanks a lot. |
| 18:13.07 | noble- | pzn, now I'm getting a new error I didn't get before |
| 18:13.09 | riv3t | hmm |
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| 18:13.15 | villy_ | wow |
| 18:13.18 | riv3t | It's a heaps shit resolution :/ |
| 18:13.28 | riv3t | Do I need to get the nvidia drivers? |
| 18:13.33 | valdyn | lila: using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will anyway restore an "original" XF86Config-4 |
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| 18:13.37 | riv3t | It's only like 1024x768 |
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| 18:13.42 | valdyn | lila: ( after the xmd5 step |
| 18:13.56 | EdLin | reddi: that's one program, dpkg-reconfigure, if you don't like typing it in tab complete it. |
| 18:14.04 | Villy | i'm first time here |
| 18:14.10 | sandman | Everything in debian is compiled for i386, yes? (unless specifically specified by teh package name) |
| 18:14.20 | Villy | :) |
| 18:14.30 | valdyn | sandman: nope it isnt, its compiled for 586 |
| 18:14.45 | yang | I need to sort these domains by letter size, now they are sorted by name, how could i do that? http://pastebin.com/367266 |
| 18:14.46 | valdyn | sandman: debian does not even run on true 386 |
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| 18:14.52 | Villy | is there just linuxoids? |
| 18:15.08 | EdLin | sandman: the kernel, libc6, and some scientific software offers non-386 packages |
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| 18:15.43 | EdLin | sandman: if you run the kernel and libc6 as 686 or whatever's appropriate you get most of the performance boost you need. |
| 18:15.57 | riv3t | how many kb would 32mb be? |
| 18:16.03 | reddi | ok and what about a hotkey like it is on a notebook (fn+Fx) do change between tv and monitor? |
| 18:16.09 | ke6isf | riv3t: 32*1024 |
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| 18:16.16 | Supaplex | reddi: 1024kb = 1mb |
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| 18:16.25 | valdyn | !32*1024 |
| 18:16.25 | dpkg | 32768 |
| 18:16.35 | riv3t | cheers |
| 18:16.38 | lila | valdyn: is there a way to have X re-read the configuration? I'm running gdm at starting, just in case that makes a difference? |
| 18:16.47 | lila | valdyn: perhaps kill -HUP X-process? |
| 18:17.00 | Villy | is there just linuxoids? |
| 18:17.02 | kimo | valdyn, may be kill -USR not sure |
| 18:17.04 | EdLin | lila: control-alt-backspace |
| 18:17.06 | cheal | valdyn: really? so 486 can run 586 code? |
| 18:17.06 | ke6isf | !repeat Villy |
| 18:17.11 | valdyn | lila: ctrl-alt-backspace or alt-f1, log in, run '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' |
| 18:17.12 | ke6isf | argh |
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| 18:17.16 | ke6isf | !tell Villy -about repeat |
| 18:17.28 | Eulex | lila, what config? XF86Config-4/xorg.conf or something else? |
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| 18:18.24 | ke6isf | Villy: What do you mean about "linuxoids"? |
| 18:18.24 | valdyn | lila: use the 2nd thing, not entirely sure if ctrl-alt-backspace will work, you can try |
| 18:18.25 | riv3t | grr |
| 18:18.25 | riv3t | It's still not changing resolution |
| 18:18.25 | Villy | people who use linux - linuxoids |
| 18:18.25 | riv3t | It looks like it's 800x600 or 1024x768 |
| 18:18.26 | gozz | what is the command to get the non us packages? |
| 18:18.26 | valdyn | lila: oh typo above alt-f1 should be ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 18:18.26 | EdLin | Villy: people who call people names - trolls |
| 18:18.35 | lila | Eulex: XF86Config-4 |
| 18:18.38 | ke6isf | Villy: For the purpose, yes - we only support Debian in here. |
| 18:18.41 | EdLin | juvinile ones at that |
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| 18:19.01 | lila | valdyn: that's alright, I tried ctrl-alt-backspace and it worked. I managed to preserve my irssi session thanks to screen. gotta love screen. |
| 18:19.01 | riv3t | any idea why I can't set a higher reolution? |
| 18:19.14 | lila | valdyn: also, the configuration of my mouse is all good now. thanks a lot. |
| 18:19.20 | Villy | cool! i'm Debian user too |
| 18:19.31 | ke6isf | Villy: Also, the question should read "Are there only". "Is" connotes a singular, not a plural, as your subject. |
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| 18:19.32 | valdyn | cheal: optimised for 586, should still run in 486 |
| 18:19.51 | Villy | but Villy - my nick |
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| 18:20.01 | Villy | VIL - my initials |
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| 18:20.04 | Villy | :) |
| 18:20.09 | ke6isf | !tell Villy -about enter |
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| 18:20.16 | badcoder | how do i change with what wmanager do i start? |
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| 18:20.25 | Eulex | lila, you need to restart X -- kill your dm and restart it |
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| 18:20.37 | EdLin | badcoder: # update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 18:21.00 | lila | Eulex: right, ctrl-alt-backspace did the trick. |
| 18:21.09 | riv3t | badcoder: echo wmyouwanttouse >> /home/yourusername/.xinitrc |
| 18:21.26 | Eulex | lila, ok, that works too |
| 18:21.34 | quittt | my debian menu in gnome has each application shown twice |
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| 18:21.42 | quittt | what may be causing this? |
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| 18:21.48 | riv3t | lol |
| 18:21.52 | EdLin | riv3t: that's likely to start more than one wm if he already has one in .xinitrc |
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| 18:22.16 | riv3t | EdLin, how do I set a higher resolution? |
| 18:22.29 | badcoder | i have no .xinitrc in debian |
| 18:22.33 | riv3t | It wont change from 800x600 or what ever shit it is on |
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| 18:22.40 | nkuttler | badcoder: use ~/.xsession |
| 18:22.45 | fbi | riv3t: why don't you check XF86Config-4 and make sure the resolutions you selected are even in there |
| 18:22.46 | badcoder | i just found the answer update-alternatives |
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| 18:23.01 | fbi | riv3t: did you edit that file while borking with your mouse? |
| 18:23.01 | riv3t | how? |
| 18:23.03 | Villy | how to select nicks in XChat??? e.g. "Villy | some_nick: how are you? |
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| 18:23.09 | fbi | guess not. |
| 18:23.15 | fbi | riv3t: with an editor? |
| 18:23.16 | riv3t | no |
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| 18:23.31 | ke6isf | Villy: type it. There also exists tab completion. |
| 18:23.36 | EdLin | riv3t: make the higher resolution the default, and make sure your horizontal sync and vertical refresh are correct for your monitor. |
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| 18:23.47 | compDo | hippie, by accident I created a file called "-ndd". How can I remove it? "rm -f \-ndd" issues an error message: "rm: invalid option -- n" |
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| 18:23.57 | riv3t | I set it as the ONLY res |
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| 18:24.03 | Eulex | !drxx riv3t |
| 18:24.04 | dpkg | riv3t: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:24.07 | EdLin | Villy: type part of the nick and hit tab. |
| 18:24.08 | cheal | valdyn: isn't anything supposed to be faster than 586 code, except on 586 machines? |
| 18:24.18 | Villy | ke6isf, cool!!! |
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| 18:24.26 | abrotman | compDo: rm -- -ndd |
| 18:24.28 | riv3t | Do you think I need to get the Nvidia drivers? |
| 18:24.35 | riv3t | me thinks it should still work without |
| 18:24.45 | Villy | EdLin, its work! |
| 18:24.59 | Eulex | riv3t, well, what driver are you currently using? |
| 18:25.01 | compDo | abrotman, thank you, worked ;) |
| 18:25.08 | riv3t | nv |
| 18:25.19 | mohkohn | I am having a problem with KDE and Gnome. Neither will start. |
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| 18:25.20 | EdLin | riv3t: if you want hardware acceleration on nvidia you'll need to get nvidia drivers. Install them with m-a |
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| 18:25.22 | riv3t | I done xf86config the first time |
| 18:25.26 | riv3t | maybe I have to do that again to fix it |
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| 18:25.37 | riv3t | m-a? |
| 18:25.42 | Eulex | riv3t, *NO*, *don't* run xf86config |
| 18:25.46 | fbi | riv3t: your XF86Config-4 is borked |
| 18:25.47 | mohkohn | Fluxbox and XFCE both work ok. |
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| 18:25.48 | riv3t | apt-get install m-a ? |
| 18:25.50 | quittt | can someone tell me why kernel 2.6.11 is obsolete????? |
| 18:25.51 | abrotman | Eulex: too late |
| 18:25.53 | ke6isf | !tell riv3t -about drxx |
| 18:25.54 | fbi | riv3t: you need to fix that |
| 18:25.56 | Villy | test |
| 18:25.57 | abrotman | !Nvidia one-liner |
| 18:25.57 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 18:26.03 | riv3t | :( |
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| 18:26.06 | moparfan90 | which source thing can i get k3b from |
| 18:26.21 | Eulex | riv3t, scroll up to drxx |
| 18:26.21 | abrotman | moparfan90: apt-get install k3b |
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| 18:26.23 | mohkohn | I have used KDE and Gnome on this laptop before. |
| 18:26.23 | riv3t | eww |
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| 18:26.27 | cheal | moparfan90: k3b? |
| 18:26.34 | Eulex | !tell riv3t about xmd5 |
| 18:26.36 | moparfan90 | yeah thanks |
| 18:26.37 | ke6isf | Eulex: Sent him a privmsg on that. |
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| 18:27.09 | mohkohn | In KDE it just gets to the point where the Banner is telling you KDE is initialising services. |
| 18:27.30 | Villy | do you know the word "linuxoid"? |
| 18:27.42 | abrotman | Villy: no .. we don't |
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| 18:27.49 | mohkohn | In Gnome it gets to the point where the Debian banner has appeared...then it gets stuck. |
| 18:27.51 | Eulex | riv3t, read what dpkg told you and do it, then, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg if you've got xorg) as root |
| 18:27.55 | riv3t | my xf86config is borked |
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| 18:28.10 | Eulex | Villy, No definitions found for "linuxoid" |
| 18:28.12 | ke6isf | riv3t: Did you get the message from dpkg about xmd5? |
| 18:28.18 | lila | I have a slave drive which came from a mac (as slave too). when I run fdisk, I get: Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table |
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| 18:28.32 | Villy | I live in Ukraine. "Linuxoids" - people who use Linux in our language |
| 18:28.32 | abrotman | lila: it won't |
| 18:28.32 | ke6isf | Villy: Maybe you could enlighten us to its origins? |
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| 18:28.35 | lila | so basically, I can't find the partitions on the drive so can't mount anything from it. any ideas? |
| 18:28.39 | fbi | riv3t: it tells right at the top of the actual XF86Config-4 file, what you have to do to fix it. |
| 18:28.40 | ke6isf | Villy: Ah, OK. |
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| 18:28.50 | riv3t | hang on |
| 18:28.52 | EdLin | Villy: well, to us it's insulting. |
| 18:29.03 | riv3t | I need to do this in x fo I can copy and paste |
| 18:29.05 | lila | abrotman: I've been looking all over google groups, any keywords I should be looking for? |
| 18:29.06 | riv3t | brb, then paste to me again |
| 18:29.10 | riv3t | soz |
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| 18:29.16 | quittt | why hell kernel-image-2.6.11 is obsolete? |
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| 18:29.25 | lila | abrotman: or is there no way in hell I'll be able to mount this drive? |
| 18:29.30 | ke6isf | quittt: Which version of Debian? |
| 18:29.35 | quittt | testing |
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| 18:29.39 | moparfan90 | quitt, theres a newwer kernel |
| 18:29.43 | Villy | bye! |
| 18:29.44 | SmallR2002[lpt-d | hullo all |
| 18:29.46 | ke6isf | Is testing using linux-image-foo yet? |
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| 18:29.48 | quittt | moparfan90, which? |
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| 18:29.58 | quittt | I see only old 2.6.8 |
| 18:30.02 | moparfan90 | i dont know go to kernel.org |
| 18:30.21 | EdLin | quittt: the package name has changed, its now linux-image or somesuch. |
| 18:30.22 | cheal | ke6isf: partly |
| 18:30.34 | abrotman | lila: did you fdisk it ? in linux |
| 18:30.34 | rec_ | i'm getting error "failed to install the base system" during installation. Is this a known problem? Is there a work around? |
| 18:30.59 | SmallR2002[lpt-d | just making a celebratory entry to say that I finaly got debian to install on my Asus A6U, and I will be writing a how to soon, thanks to all debian developers |
| 18:31.02 | EdLin | rec_: check your CD |
| 18:31.12 | ke6isf | !beer SmallR2002[lpt-d |
| 18:31.17 | Eulex | rec_, it must give you more than just "failed to install the base system" |
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| 18:31.30 | riv3t | Okay, please tell me about |
| 18:31.35 | riv3t | about how to fix it, I edited it by hang |
| 18:31.35 | riv3t | hand |
| 18:31.37 | lila | abrotman: yes, there's no partition table on it. |
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| 18:31.44 | riv3t | dpkg |
| 18:31.45 | abrotman | lila: so .. create one ? |
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| 18:31.50 | Eulex | riv3t, we have, I can do it again |
| 18:31.51 | ke6isf | !xmd5 |
| 18:31.52 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 18:31.57 | SmallR2002[lpt-d | cyall] |
| 18:31.58 | ke6isf | riv3t: What dpkg just said. |
| 18:31.58 | abrotman | lila: from what i remember .. you delete the old partitions . then create a new one |
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| 18:32.02 | Eulex | !tell riv3t about drxx |
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| 18:32.11 | lila | abrotman: there were partitions already, I could see them on my mac. |
| 18:32.15 | riv3t | hello? |
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| 18:32.32 | moparfan90 | quittt, the newwest kernel is 2.6.13.2 |
| 18:32.34 | moparfan90 | stable |
| 18:32.37 | abrotman | lila: do you want the data on them ? |
| 18:32.47 | ke6isf | riv3t: Are you not seeing any text on your screen in this channel? |
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| 18:32.49 | lila | abrotman: this drive actually had one hfs partition and one ext2 partition from which debian-powerpc booted |
| 18:32.54 | moparfan90 | and there s 2.13.4. non stable |
| 18:32.54 | ke6isf | Hooboy, there's a rhetorical question. |
| 18:32.55 | lila | abrotman: ideally, yes |
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| 18:33.09 | EdLin | moparfan90: its best to not run a vanilla 2.6 kernel however, according to the kernel developers themselves. |
| 18:33.15 | abrotman | lila: fdisk -l /dev/<drivedevice> |
| 18:33.22 | cheal | moparfan90: really? |
| 18:33.36 | quittt | moparfan90, I mean in debian |
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| 18:33.49 | EdgEy | if someone is connected to my box with openssh can i view the session |
| 18:33.49 | lila | abrotman: returns: Disk /dev/hdb doesn't contain a valid partition table |
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| 18:33.53 | riv3t | Files /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum and - are identical |
| 18:34.00 | moparfan90 | quitt, you can update the kernel manualy to the newest one |
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| 18:34.07 | riv3t | ? |
| 18:34.10 | riv3t | is that good? |
| 18:34.12 | abrotman | lila: and if you put the drive back in your mac ? |
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| 18:34.18 | EdLin | riv3t: yes. Now drxx |
| 18:34.20 | riv3t | I done that as root |
| 18:34.26 | riv3t | okay |
| 18:34.31 | ke6isf | !tell riv3t -about enter |
| 18:34.32 | lila | abrotman: that might be a problem. the reason the drive is now in my pc is that my mac died :( |
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| 18:34.37 | quittt | and nvidia kernel? |
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| 18:35.09 | lila | abrotman: the problem wasn't the drive though, the mac drive is still in the machine and the mac is still dead. |
| 18:35.17 | riv3t | but I already done this |
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| 18:35.26 | lila | abrotman: I sincerely doubt the mac whiped out the boot partition from my slave drive. |
| 18:35.45 | abrotman | lila: maybe #debianppc can help you? .. i thought it was a pretty standard filesystem on macs |
| 18:35.47 | lurfagrin | Slightly annoying question, how do you convert an XML docbook to PDF without using docbook-utils/docbook2pdf (which gives way too many entity errors)? |
| 18:35.49 | EdLin | lila: macs don't even use the DOS partition system |
| 18:36.02 | lila | abrotman: I thought there would at least be a partition table :( |
| 18:36.08 | abrotman | EdLin: he says fdisk -l says the partition table doesn't exist |
| 18:36.20 | mwilson | There is. Just not an IBM PC BIOS partition table. |
| 18:36.32 | lila | EdLin: is there a way I could extract whatever partitioning info macs keep? |
| 18:36.36 | EdLin | abrotman: it wouldn't if he was using it in a Mac, they have a different partition table setup |
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| 18:36.47 | EdLin | lila: not that I know of. Check out #debianpppc |
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| 18:37.04 | abrotman | #debianppc .. not pppc |
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| 18:37.10 | EdLin | s/pppc/ppc/ |
| 18:37.15 | mwilson | The kernel can read a Mac HD, if the proper options are compiled into it. |
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| 18:37.45 | mwilson | That should be obvious, since PPC Linux runs on a Mac. |
| 18:38.08 | EdLin | mwilson: unless the Mac is a 68K one. :-) |
| 18:38.08 | riv3t | okay I have to quit X to do that last command |
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| 18:38.54 | reddi | do i have to set horizontalfrequenz etc. for tvout !? or are the lines Option "TwinView" Option "TVStandard" "PAL" |
| 18:38.54 | mwilson | EdLin: When did Linux stop supporting 68k machines? |
| 18:38.55 | reddi | ? |
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| 18:39.00 | lila | mwilson: I don't mind recompiling my kernel, but I'll way for feedback from #debianppc before going through the whole ordeal. |
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| 18:39.13 | EdLin | mwilson: ppc linux doesn't support it. 68K does. That's what I meant. |
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| 18:39.33 | mwilson | EdLin: You'd be wrong, but that's your problem. |
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| 18:39.46 | aizak | i upgraded to latest unstable, and now i cannot compile mplayer.. nor can I use my older mplayer(gives me blue screen) .. any clues guys ? debian-marillat seems down |
| 18:39.48 | EdLin | mwilson: wrong in what way? |
| 18:40.07 | sandman | Is there a way to have applications launched from a chroot appear in an X session which is running in the root above the chroot? |
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| 18:40.11 | sandman | if that makes any sense at all |
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| 18:40.22 | kimo | anyone suggests a method to debug remote X connection problems! Any log file, anything ? |
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| 18:40.45 | tazman | tcpdump |
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| 18:41.12 | tazman | ssh -XY may help |
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| 18:41.20 | mwilson | EdLin: The idea that only 68k Linux supports reading a Mac-partitioned HD is amusing, but false. |
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| 18:41.34 | fbi | aizak: you can try changing 'unstable' to 'sid' in your marillat repo, this morning i couldn't connect until i changes 'stable' to 'sarge' |
| 18:41.35 | EdLin | mwilson: I never said that |
| 18:41.46 | rec_ | Eulex, the error message is "The base system installation into /target/ failed" "Check /var/log/messages or se virtual console 3 for the details" |
| 18:41.59 | mwilson | [11:39] <EdLin> mwilson: ppc linux doesn't support it. 68K does. That's what I |
| 18:41.59 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:42.18 | EdLin | mwilson: refering to Mac 68K support, not partition support. |
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| 18:42.37 | EdLin | mwilson: if you take a look at /lastlog you'll realize you're only arguing with yourself. |
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| 18:43.18 | aizak | fbi: ok.. |
| 18:43.20 | [TACO] | YES |
| 18:43.24 | [TACO] | this is great |
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| 18:43.41 | rec_ | /var/log/messages says: "umount: /target/dev/pts: No such file or directory" "umount: /target/dev/shm: No such file or directory" "umount: /target/proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument" and "Segmentation fault" |
| 18:43.45 | [TACO] | I reboot the system due to problems I was having |
| 18:43.46 | [TACO] | then I get |
| 18:43.58 | [TACO] | "mounting local filesystems... FAILED" |
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| 18:44.13 | aizak | fbi: heh.. looks to be updating.. thankx.. |
| 18:44.24 | fbi | no problem |
| 18:44.32 | fbi | i don't know why marillat does that now |
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| 18:44.44 | riv3t | Hey, it's still a shit resolution. |
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| 18:45.05 | fbi | riv3t: can your monitor even display a higher resolution? |
| 18:45.08 | mwilson | "now"? It's been that way for a very long time. |
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| 18:45.19 | riv3t | Yes, it's an LG Studioworks 700s |
| 18:45.21 | riv3t | 17" |
| 18:45.26 | rec_ | does the fact that i'm installing in a VMWare VM matter? I wouldn't think so, but... |
| 18:45.30 | EdgEy | hmm |
| 18:45.35 | fbi | mwilson: i don't use marillat every day to know, i usually have it commented out until i need it |
| 18:45.47 | EdgEy | for K7 which package should i get from marillat, -586 or -k6? there's no k7 |
| 18:45.51 | riv3t | I think it looks even worse now... :( |
| 18:46.02 | riv3t | whats the thing to get the nvidia drivers? |
| 18:46.17 | EdLin | riv3t: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 18:46.44 | EdgEy | :/ |
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| 18:48.04 | rec_ | does anyone else have any idea why i can't install the base system? |
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| 18:48.19 | arpwatch | This isn't really debian related but I was hoping someone could tell me if its possible to retrieve my forgotten passphrase for PGP or someone retrieve the encrypted data? I have my pubkering and securering files sitting here if that would help any... |
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| 18:48.34 | arpwatch | someone/somehow |
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| 18:49.01 | rec_ | arpwatch, there's always a brute-force password cracker |
| 18:49.08 | riv3t | what do I need to get to ./configure and make |
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| 18:49.13 | jbroome | and lots and lots of time |
| 18:49.14 | arpwatch | guess that would have to do... |
| 18:49.18 | riv3t | some compiler |
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| 18:49.42 | Gathond | riv3t: some compiler and whatever libraries and header files the stuff you are trying to compile needs |
| 18:50.05 | riv3t | c |
| 18:50.11 | riv3t | Is that gcc ? |
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| 18:50.24 | arpwatch | if I knew half of the passphrase that would help alot wouldn't it? |
| 18:50.33 | riv3t | and whats the depenency thing |
| 18:50.39 | arpwatch | I've tried all my normal use passwords but apparently I tried to trick myself .. |
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| 18:50.47 | riv3t | the most command libaries use to compile |
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| 18:50.51 | Gathond | riv3t: gcc is a C compiler yes, it probably does the trick as long as whatever you compile is made in C |
| 18:51.00 | riv3t | Someone told me this before but I forgot |
| 18:51.08 | riv3t | okay |
| 18:51.20 | Gathond | riv3t: the minimum requirements should be coverd by the build-essential package |
| 18:51.46 | riv3t | apt-get build-essential ? |
| 18:51.51 | rec_ | arpwatch, yes it would help exponentially, but it may still take more than your lifetime for your computer to crack it, depending on the length of the phrase. |
| 18:51.52 | riv3t | I think thats what he told me.. |
| 18:52.03 | arpwatch | ow.. |
| 18:52.06 | sandman | Will compiling for 386 go any faster than compiling for amd64? |
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| 18:52.11 | Gathond | riv3t: apt-get install packagename (or aptitude isntall packagename) |
| 18:52.14 | arpwatch | I think it was somewhere in the 12 character range... |
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| 18:52.24 | jbroome | arpwatch: you're boned |
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| 18:52.40 | arpwatch | oh well, it was just my porn that I encrypted, but I still wanted to keep it :( |
| 18:52.46 | vineet | haha |
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| 18:52.57 | Mik0 | A quick question...the cable line for the internet was accidentally cut in my yard..is it possible for me to hook it back up or do i need a cable guy? |
| 18:52.58 | rec_ | arpwatch, why did you encrypt porn? |
| 18:52.59 | arpwatch | glad I didn't decide to encrypt my entire home folder |
| 18:52.59 | vineet | I guess you're /not/ boned =p |
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| 18:53.15 | arpwatch | rec_, just to try it out, I made the key in sept 2004 and forgot I had pgp |
| 18:53.15 | jbroome | Mik0: call the damn cable guy |
| 18:53.17 | riv3t | lol |
| 18:53.22 | Mik0 | i dont feel like waiting |
| 18:53.25 | Mik0 | is it something i can do myself? |
| 18:53.30 | arpwatch | so I went to use it and I guess I forgot the pw |
| 18:53.48 | riv3t | Mik0: give it a go, I've wired up phone lines. |
| 18:53.54 | rec_ | encrypted porn doesn't do anything for me, personally. |
| 18:53.55 | riv3t | Look for a howto |
| 18:53.58 | [TACO] | in the last few days I ran into no problems with running my system, what would cause the local filesystems to fail to mount? |
| 18:54.05 | jbroome | maybe you'll get lucky and find a power line too |
| 18:54.16 | Mik0 | what should i search for, for the howto |
| 18:54.17 | riv3t | lmao |
| 18:54.18 | jbroome | s/you'll/we'll |
| 18:54.31 | [TACO] | first noticed when running KDE it was majoryly gimped, also the authentication system failed to work and told me to kill it |
| 18:54.40 | riv3t | is it a telephone line? |
| 18:54.41 | [TACO] | then I rebooted after I shut KDE down because it failed to launch twice |
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| 18:55.11 | [TACO] | then when I came back it said failed when mounting local filesystems, however, I am still able to log in and do most stufff |
| 18:55.13 | [TACO] | -f |
| 18:55.19 | EdgEy | can i watch someone who's connected to my machine via ssh |
| 18:55.20 | EdgEy | -.- |
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| 18:55.40 | nkuttler | EdgEy: 'watch'? |
| 18:55.49 | EdgEy | well, have a window open to see what they're doing.. |
| 18:55.50 | Eulex | rec_, sorry, was away -- did you check console 3 |
| 18:55.54 | EdgEy | something like that |
| 18:56.03 | rec_ | Eulex, i checked /var/log/messages |
| 18:56.09 | rec_ | /var/log/messages says: "umount: /target/dev/pts: No such file or directory" "umount: /target/dev/shm: No such file or directory" "umount: /target/proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument" and "Segmentation fault" |
| 18:56.11 | vineet | it should be possible to monitor their tty |
| 18:56.13 | nazgul | ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libxml2mod.so: undefined symbol: xmlParseURIRaw (debian testing, compiling gnome-panel cvs) |
| 18:56.35 | nkuttler | EdgEy: watch their processes, look into screen if the users would cooperate |
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| 18:57.00 | EdgEy | how? :\ |
| 18:57.04 | rec_ | Eulex, also "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/util-linux_2.12p-4_i386.deb (--unpack):" "subprocess pre-installation script killed by signal (Sementation fault) |
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| 18:57.43 | Eulex | rec_, hmm -- did you md5 check the cd? |
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| 18:58.15 | digirap | hello can anybody help me how to install the yahoo msgr for mepis |
| 18:58.29 | rec_ | Eulex, would "check the CDROM for integrity" on the menu suffice? |
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| 18:58.39 | Eulex | rec_, yes |
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| 18:58.50 | rec_ | yes, it checks out |
| 18:59.26 | rec_ | Eulex, this is a VMWare VM, btw |
| 18:59.28 | jbroome | digirap: /j #mepis |
| 19:00.00 | vineet | EdgEy: dpkg -p ttysnoop |
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| 19:00.17 | cheal | digirap: #mepis, possibly |
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| 19:00.41 | riv3t | "checking for vanilla coke in fridge" |
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| 19:00.52 | vineet | digirap: I think yahoo has a .deb you can download |
| 19:01.03 | vineet | digirap: try to get that and then sudo dpkg -i filename.deb |
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| 19:01.26 | vineet | digirap: or just try gaim |
| 19:01.32 | riv3t | I can't do sudo, sudo not found? |
| 19:01.37 | EdgEy | vineet, how do i use that? it can't connect |
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| 19:01.43 | nkuttler | riv3t: install it |
| 19:02.02 | vineet | EdgEy: I haven't used it, so I don't really know. You are root? You would need to be |
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| 19:02.10 | riv3t | apt-get install sudu not found |
| 19:02.19 | EdgEy | yeah i'm root, it doesn't have a --help |
| 19:02.31 | EdgEy | but it does have a man page :) |
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| 19:02.36 | apprentice | ban me |
| 19:02.39 | apprentice | v |
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| 19:02.41 | EdgEy | wtf |
| 19:02.41 | apprentice | ban me |
| 19:02.43 | apprentice | ban me |
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| 19:02.43 | nkuttler | riv3t: sudo |
| 19:02.45 | apprentice | ban me |
| 19:02.47 | apprentice | v |
| 19:02.49 | apprentice | ban me |
| 19:02.56 | EdgEy | lol |
| 19:03.00 | vicky | :) |
| 19:03.03 | cheal | EdgEy: please don't break debhelper's kick |
| 19:03.10 | nkuttler | some people have too much time |
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| 19:03.22 | Rogue` | EdgEy :o |
| 19:03.28 | EdgEy | cheal, sorry |
| 19:03.33 | mwilson | oooh, new everythingisnt hosts file |
| 19:03.40 | vineet | riv3t: it's sudo |
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| 19:03.40 | EdgEy | hi Rogue` |
| 19:03.42 | cheal | EdgEy: hehe, you could do worst :-P |
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| 19:04.10 | Rogue` | hey:) |
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| 19:04.50 | digirap | is gaim another OS? |
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| 19:05.02 | digirap | apart from mepis? |
| 19:05.04 | towy71 | no |
| 19:05.05 | cheal | !tell digirap about gaim |
| 19:05.07 | vineet | digirap: no, it's an IM client, and it can speak yahoo |
| 19:05.13 | cheal | digirap: ask #gaim |
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| 19:05.15 | digirap | ahh |
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| 19:05.24 | Eulex | !info gaim |
| 19:05.27 | dpkg | gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 2028 kB |
| 19:05.32 | Zap-W | "WARNING: mysqlcheck has found corrupt tables" "warning : 1 client is using or hasn't closed the table properly" |
| 19:05.34 | Zap-W | is this bad? |
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| 19:05.46 | vineet | Zap-W: not necessarily |
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| 19:05.55 | digirap | !info gaim |
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| 19:05.58 | dpkg | gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 2028 kB |
| 19:06.05 | Zap-W | it was mailed to me |
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| 19:06.19 | vineet | Zap-W: that happens on boot sometimes if mysql didn't shut down properly |
| 19:06.20 | cheal | digirap: please use /msg dpkg info gaim to avoid channel spam |
| 19:06.30 | vineet | Zap-W: but the tables are most likely fine |
| 19:06.32 | digirap | ok sorry and thx |
| 19:06.36 | Zap-W | vineet: how do i check for tables intergrity? |
| 19:06.41 | Zap-W | integrity |
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| 19:06.58 | digirap | thx for the help! |
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| 19:07.15 | carlinhos | Zap-W, mysql email you about that? |
| 19:07.26 | quittt | !nvidia |
| 19:07.26 | dpkg | i guess nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 19:07.36 | quittt | !nvidia one-liner |
| 19:07.37 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 19:07.38 | vineet | Zap-W: the easiest way is probably to use the mysql administrator gui |
| 19:07.54 | vineet | Zap-W: otherwise google "mysql check table syntax" |
| 19:08.09 | cheal | !tell quittt about msg the bot |
| 19:08.48 | gozz | where can i find a list of all the sources i need to add? |
| 19:09.08 | cheal | gozz: need to do what? |
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| 19:09.36 | Eulex | gozz, sources for what? you don't just go add a lot of apt sources, you just add those you really need |
| 19:09.42 | gozz | apt |
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| 19:11.41 | mohkohn | I am having a wierd problem with OpenOffice1.1. It just gets to a banner. Then freezes |
| 19:11.41 | EdgEy | why does apt-get install mozilla with gnome.. |
| 19:11.55 | mohkohn | Same with KDE and Gnome. |
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| 19:12.29 | Eulex | mohkohn, start it in a console and see what it tells you |
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| 19:12.47 | mohkohn | Thanks Eulex |
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| 19:13.54 | mike23 | greetings |
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| 19:14.25 | mike23 | anyone know of a linux plot program which does inequaliteis? |
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| 19:14.59 | sjwalter | hello, i'm doing some development but i just dont know what packages to install to get gcc + all the libraries i need |
| 19:15.04 | sjwalter | is there just one package i can get? |
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| 19:15.39 | nkuttler | sjwalter: start with build-essential |
| 19:16.35 | Zap-W | is xorg in sarge? |
| 19:16.49 | vineet | Zap-W: nope |
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| 19:17.26 | valdyn | sjwalter: apt-get install build-essential |
| 19:17.29 | Zap-W | is there any reason to run X in a sarge server? |
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| 19:17.37 | valdyn | sjwalter: we cant guess however which libraries you need |
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| 19:18.44 | whatever | bob2: what track on "in sides" was the live version on? :P |
| 19:19.28 | sjwalter | waldyn thanks |
| 19:19.38 | sjwalter | i just needed gnu stdlib for c |
| 19:19.44 | sjwalter | got it |
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| 19:20.16 | quittt | is someonge having the same problems that I do? |
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| 19:20.31 | quittt | in debian menu in gnome |
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| 19:20.39 | quittt | it is duplicated |
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| 19:20.44 | EdLin | !tell quittt about polls |
| 19:20.46 | quittt | every applications appers two times |
| 19:20.49 | cheal | quittt: which release? |
| 19:20.58 | quittt | etch |
| 19:21.10 | quittt | EdgEy, it is not a poll, I am asking if someone else has the same problem |
| 19:21.12 | cheal | yes, others had that |
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| 19:21.36 | quittt | what should I do? |
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| 19:21.48 | quittt | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08050a78 *** |
| 19:21.48 | quittt | Aborted |
| 19:21.50 | quittt | and this one? |
| 19:22.02 | EdgEy | :P |
| 19:22.11 | nkuttler | !tell quittt about flood |
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| 19:22.28 | quittt | two lines is flood? |
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| 19:22.44 | nkuttler | !tell quittt about enter |
| 19:22.52 | nkuttler | quittt: i wasn't precise, sorry |
| 19:22.57 | whatever | hey, I know this isn't quite like....debian related....but anyone in here do any c/c++ coding? |
| 19:22.58 | quittt | aaa stop anoying meee |
| 19:23.06 | Coweater | quittt: context for the second one? |
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| 19:23.16 | valdyn | !anyone |
| 19:23.17 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> consider the answer to be "yes" if the program is actually in Debian.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 19:23.33 | whatever | ............... |
| 19:23.34 | valdyn | whatever: you can be sure that debian is used for c/c++ development by some people, why even ask? |
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| 19:23.45 | nkuttler | quittt: google debian menu system or run the stable distribution |
| 19:24.03 | quittt | cheal, what should I do? |
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| 19:24.35 | valdyn | quittt: running 'update-menus' has no effect on your issue i guess? |
| 19:24.41 | quittt | no |
| 19:24.44 | whatever | I know the core OS and everything is in c/c++, I was asking if anyone on right now is familliar with it, as I was going to ask a general programming question, something NOT related with debian |
| 19:24.53 | quittt | it isnt problem with the menus... it is with gnome |
| 19:25.02 | valdyn | !metaquestion |
| 19:25.03 | quittt | in fluxbox it works very well |
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| 19:25.24 | Unix-Wanted | anyone know how to use a bot? |
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| 19:25.55 | valdyn | quittt: this is probably related to the transition gnome 2.8->2.10? |
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| 19:26.03 | quittt | yeah |
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| 19:26.16 | vineet | whatever: if you ever get around to asking, I'm sure you'll get an answer |
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| 19:26.24 | elephantman | Hi all |
| 19:26.43 | quittt | it is so stupid hehee |
| 19:27.05 | valdyn | quittt: i'd just wait a few days till this fixes itself |
| 19:27.09 | whatever | anyways, I havn't dealt with strings in a while... not caracter strings, but type string ... trying to recall how to compare them, as strcmp, etc all compare character strings (arrays)... but don't like to handle type string |
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| 19:27.22 | quittt | valdyn, oh it is a bug |
| 19:27.26 | elephantman | Is it possible to use "dd" (to copy a .img file) on a remote partition accessible via "smbmount" ? |
| 19:27.26 | valdyn | whatever: C has no string type |
| 19:27.29 | quittt | I thought I didnt know how to use Linux hahaha |
| 19:27.30 | vineet | you mean c++ std::string, right? |
| 19:27.49 | whatever | .......... |
| 19:27.53 | whatever | vineet: yep |
| 19:27.57 | vineet | s1.compare(s2) |
| 19:28.08 | whatever | vineet: oh geeze... |
| 19:28.13 | valdyn | quittt: this problem was in some way in sid a while ago, i didnt pay attention to it, and it wasnt "all" was just a few apps for me |
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| 19:28.38 | quittt | here it is alll |
| 19:28.40 | quittt | hehe |
| 19:28.40 | whatever | vineet: well, that makes total sense, but I was expecting something like string::compare(a1,a2) |
| 19:28.46 | quittt | valdyn, I am using etch |
| 19:28.46 | whatever | vineet: thanks |
| 19:28.47 | valdyn | !bts |
| 19:28.47 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 19:29.00 | valdyn | quittt: yea i know, but etch packages come from sid.. |
| 19:29.01 | vineet | no problem |
| 19:29.04 | quittt | pedro@quitete:~$ display -geometry 1024x768+0+0 -window root /home/pedro/.fluxbox/backgrounds/BeyondTheGraceOfGod1-0.jpg |
| 19:29.04 | quittt | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08050a78 *** |
| 19:29.04 | quittt | Abortado |
| 19:29.07 | quittt | and this one? |
| 19:29.08 | riv3t | how do I change the window for btichx using xterm? |
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| 19:29.17 | quittt | woops |
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| 19:29.37 | azeem | riv3t: use screen |
| 19:29.40 | quittt | valdyn, this one happens when I start fluxbox |
| 19:29.47 | vineet | whatever: you can just use the == operator if that's all you want |
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| 19:29.55 | whatever | vineet: no you can't |
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| 19:30.06 | riv3t | ./screen ? |
| 19:30.14 | azeem | riv3t: it's a package |
| 19:30.21 | azeem | a terminal multiplexer |
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| 19:30.29 | riv3t | k |
| 19:30.33 | valdyn | quittt: check the bts for that one |
| 19:30.42 | quittt | bts? |
| 19:30.46 | valdyn | !bts |
| 19:30.46 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 19:30.47 | azeem | riv3t: maybe I misunderstood your question, so check whether screen is what you want |
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| 19:30.54 | vineet | whatever: why not? |
| 19:31.06 | quittt | aaa |
| 19:31.26 | azeem | quittt: is display mentioned in ~/.xsession? In that case, you could remove that and live without a wallpaper but with X |
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| 19:32.28 | valdyn | !wallpaper |
| 19:32.28 | dpkg | somebody said wallpaper was at digitalblasphemy.com, or http://www.desktopgirls.com, or looroll.com |
| 19:32.28 | mohkohn | After several experiments. OpenOffice loads quickly from the shell but takes forever from the xfce menu |
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| 19:32.54 | mohkohn | k3b takes forever. In fact it just freezes. |
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| 19:33.12 | whatever | vineet: because strings are classes, you can't just compare classes like that and expect it to act normal... most likely also because the == hasn't been overloaded in the function either. in reality what it does when trying to compare them is it adds the first argument on to the end of the second argument |
| 19:33.13 | valdyn | mohkohn: kde applications dont exactly run nicely outside kde |
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| 19:33.33 | riv3t | Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed. |
| 19:33.33 | riv3t | Ignoring this package. Maybe you need to add something |
| 19:33.33 | riv3t | sources.list, |
| 19:33.37 | riv3t | maybe the contrib and non-free archives. |
| 19:33.37 | valdyn | mohkohn: since you're using xfce, consider using a gtk2 burning app, like graveman, gnomebaker |
| 19:33.51 | riv3t | wtf? |
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| 19:34.05 | phreak | Got any ideas of a small non-caching http-proxy, with the ability to alter the contents with regexps or similar? |
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| 19:34.12 | vineet | vineet: std::string has a "bool operator==" function defined |
| 19:34.18 | valdyn | riv3t: thats one useful error message, do what it sais. |
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| 19:34.28 | vineet | I meant to say that to whatever, not myself =p |
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| 19:34.33 | whatever | lol |
| 19:34.37 | riv3t | ? |
| 19:34.40 | riv3t | how? |
| 19:34.50 | riv3t | I don't even know what I am doing |
| 19:34.50 | valdyn | phreak: like an ad blocker? |
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| 19:34.58 | ranson | I am actually having difficulties with Mepis |
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| 19:35.13 | elephantman | How can i write a .img file on a partition that is on another computer on the network ? |
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| 19:35.20 | riv3t | I just done that nvidia onliner command and i got that at the end. |
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| 19:35.27 | phreak | valdyn: No, I just want to be able to try changeing all foo with bar's for example. |
| 19:35.28 | valdyn | elephantman: man scp |
| 19:35.34 | riv3t | oneliner* |
| 19:35.43 | elephantman | valdyn: can "dd" do the job ? |
| 19:35.47 | mohkohn | valdyn, I am having problems with gnome, kde, openoffice and k3b. Everything is taking forever to start up. |
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| 19:35.49 | phreak | valdyn: So I can have the page dynamic, but with my changes. Instead of downloading a copy and changeing it. |
| 19:35.52 | whatever | vineet: well you may think it works, but from what I just did, it truncated the end of the first string to the end of the second, so I don't think it liked that |
| 19:35.56 | valdyn | elephantman: dd isnt network transparent |
| 19:36.04 | ranson | #join mepis lovers |
| 19:36.06 | rking | i'm running screen + ssh, and some spammer has managed to get my terminal in a state where characters aren't being removed from the screen - they're only added. how can i restore everything short of restarting screen? |
| 19:36.06 | valdyn | elephantman: what's the problem with scp? |
| 19:36.08 | elephantman | valdyn: ok thanx |
| 19:36.20 | gozz | is there a source i can add for JRE ? |
| 19:36.22 | rking | i forgot to mention: i've already tried "reset" and echo ^[c |
| 19:36.28 | lemurek | hello, what is simplest package on debian, that provides acces to mail via http? |
| 19:36.35 | badcoder | im trying to use a index.php thats takes makes querys to a mysql db , but i cannto get apache to work , when i point my browser to my localhost it just odwnloads the file |
| 19:36.42 | riv3t | so what do I do? |
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| 19:36.52 | Gnea | rking: what spammer? |
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| 19:37.08 | danieldg | rking: did you try ^A l |
| 19:37.09 | whatever | vineet: it totally barfed in the if statement |
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| 19:37.12 | elephantman | valdyn: cause i have a "dd" command as an example => dd tiger-macosx86.img bs=16k |
| 19:37.13 | rking | Gnea: somebody who doesn't understand proper mail encodings. |
| 19:37.17 | valdyn | lemurek: squirrelmail? |
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| 19:37.32 | cadu | hello! how can i set my keyboard to dvorak under xorg?? thanks...., btw, loadkeys dvorak on console worked nicely...but on X it's with some parts fscked up....maybe i`m doing something wrong :P |
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| 19:37.40 | rking | danieldg: good though, but nope. |
| 19:37.41 | Gnea | rking: so the terminal now has all sorts of garbled characters? |
| 19:37.44 | lemurek | valdyn: ok, i'll check this thanks |
| 19:37.56 | mohkohn | gozz, #Java deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/java/debian/ sarge non-free |
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| 19:38.42 | valdyn | elephantman: scp file.img username@host: ( easy uh? ) |
| 19:38.42 | riv3t | Hello> |
| 19:38.55 | elephantman | valdyn: cool thanx a lot |
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| 19:39.10 | petemc | or even username:host:. |
| 19:39.17 | riv3t | stuff this, im going to bed |
| 19:39.17 | petemc | gah@host |
| 19:39.27 | cadu | any dvorakers |
| 19:39.28 | cadu | ?? |
| 19:39.31 | rking | Gnea: not quite garbled - that sounds like you're describing the "graphical mode" escape that the terminal sometimes gets into - and that one i can always fix with "Reset". but instead what's happening is it's showing the whole screen, then, say, i view an email, and anything in the email that's blank still has the old content from the index |
| 19:39.33 | Coweater | cadu: edit the x config or reconfigure X, there are some gui switchers available as well, search in apt |
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| 19:40.04 | Gnea | rking: using what client? |
| 19:40.16 | cadu | Coweater: one thing is strange... |
| 19:40.17 | rking | Gnea: cvs mutt |
| 19:40.21 | Coweater | cadu: i believe gnome or kde let you change it in their control panels |
| 19:40.25 | cadu | Coweater: my dvorak layout seems to be a bit fscked up |
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| 19:40.39 | cadu | Coweater: ctrl-alt-f1...f2..f3 is spitting P Q R S... |
| 19:40.46 | lemurek | and another question, what is the most multilanguage cms ? |
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| 19:40.47 | themusicgod1 | kdeinit keeps spawning like 50 processes which don't seem to be doing anything. Is there a way to determine their purpose? |
| 19:40.49 | Gnea | rking: so just quit mutt |
| 19:41.00 | Coweater | cadu: are you running testing? |
| 19:41.02 | noble- | if there is a program in /usr/share/, how do I install it into my home dir? |
| 19:41.17 | Gathond | themusicgod1: read the KDE source, everyone assumingly does something sometimes:) |
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| 19:41.19 | cadu | Coweater: yeah, and switched to dvorak yesterday |
| 19:41.22 | groton | hello all. Does anyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf gets deleted each time i reboot, and i have to rewrite in it "nameserver x.x.x.x"? |
| 19:41.23 | rking | Gnea: hrm... i think i might've got it - i Ctrl+MiddleClick'd on the xterm, and went to "Full Reset". so far so good. |
| 19:41.24 | cheal | themusicgod1: ask #debian-kde |
| 19:41.26 | Gnea | rking: try another mail client or 4 and see if the problem persists in those as well |
| 19:41.29 | valdyn | noble-: why the hell would a "program" be in /usr/share ? |
| 19:41.30 | cadu | Coweater: consolemode worked FINE...loadkeys `dvorak` does the trick |
| 19:41.32 | petemc | noble-: there should be a binary in usr |
| 19:41.33 | cadu | Coweater: but on X...jeez |
| 19:41.33 | themusicgod1 | Gathond: lol |
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| 19:41.35 | petemc | shouldnt |
| 19:41.37 | Gnea | rking: hrm |
| 19:41.40 | noble- | well yes, a binary |
| 19:41.44 | whatever | vineet: valdyn might be able to explain better as to why it dosen't work |
| 19:41.49 | Coweater | cadu: i belive there's a problem with the xorg-keymap, it's not related to dvorak (the ctrl-alt-fn) |
| 19:41.51 | themusicgod1 | Gathond: I'll add that to the to do list then :) |
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| 19:42.05 | themusicgod1 | ChanServ: thanks |
| 19:42.08 | themusicgod1 | er |
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| 19:42.13 | themusicgod1 | cheal: rather |
| 19:42.14 | noble- | I used apt-get to get eggdrop and I can't figure out how to install it to my home dir. basically |
| 19:42.17 | Gathond | themusicgod1: more approachable one could hope the KDE people documented it somewhere:) |
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| 19:42.27 | noble- | I'm used to doing it the old fashioned way |
| 19:42.37 | whatever | vineet: wtf, I take that back man..... s1.compare(s2) is having the same result as == |
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| 19:42.41 | noble- | downloading the tar.gz directly to my shell, untarring, etc |
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| 19:42.54 | cadu | Coweater: coz ctrl-alt-fn is working nicely on console mode |
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| 19:43.13 | whatever | I give up on programming. |
| 19:43.24 | valdyn | noble-: run ./configure --help, look for 'prefix' |
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| 19:43.41 | whatever | I'll become a nun or something... |
| 19:43.50 | Coweater | cadu: yes, the problem is the xorg keymap, and the bug i checked that reported it was ignored saying it was already fixed |
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| 19:44.08 | Coweater | nothing to do with dvorak i'm almost sure |
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| 19:45.30 | quittt | does anybody use etch with gnome? |
| 19:45.34 | noble- | valdyn, ./configure = no such file or directory/command not found |
| 19:45.37 | quittt | at it is updated |
| 19:45.48 | valdyn | noble-: where did you try it? |
| 19:45.56 | cadu | Coweater: so i`m fscked up? |
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| 19:46.01 | valdyn | noble-: tar.gz source packages usually do come with the configure script.. |
| 19:46.08 | noble- | from my home dir, in my shell |
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| 19:46.20 | noble- | ohhh |
| 19:46.42 | mohkohn | When I log into gnome i get the following: |
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| 19:46.59 | Coweater | cadu: until it gets fixed somehow, it shouldn't be hard, but i didn't have time to investigate the difference in the files to see what caused it |
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| 19:47.54 | mohkohn | Could not look up internet address to . This will prevent gnome from operating correctly. It may be possible to corret the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts. |
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| 19:47.59 | noble- | I'm trying it from the dir where eggdrop it is and it's still saying no such file/dir |
| 19:48.10 | Coweater | cadu: if you want to take a look at it check bug #319895 |
| 19:48.11 | mohkohn | Anybody know what that is about? |
| 19:48.22 | valdyn | mohkohn: do what it said? |
| 19:49.08 | mohkohn | Don't fully understand? I need to give the computer a name and add it to /etc/hosts? |
| 19:49.22 | mohkohn | I am googling as well. |
| 19:49.31 | valdyn | mohkohn: man hosts |
| 19:49.38 | mohkohn | thanks |
| 19:50.45 | valdyn | mohkohn: cat /etc/hostname |
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| 19:53.45 | Gary_1963 | hello |
| 19:54.17 | Supaplex | lo' |
| 19:54.35 | noble- | valdyn, I didn't download a tar.gz. I used apt-get install eggdrop. It put it in /usr/share/ and nothing seems to be working as far as retrieving it to my home dir, or installing it |
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| 19:55.07 | valdyn | noble-: i see, dont try then. read the docs in /usr/share/eggdrop i guess ( never used that thing ) |
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| 19:55.22 | valdyn | noble-: /usr/share/doc/eggdrop even |
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| 19:59.12 | DrRighteous | Hey guys... I've got a colo'd deb box that ssh seems to be locking me out (upgraded and now wont authenticate me, but does respond on the port)... I can still get in via FTP (root account), any suggestions on how I can get telnet or something working so I can get in? or disable passwords so I can at least get in? |
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| 19:59.18 | riv3t_ | hi |
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| 19:59.31 | donald | Does anyone know, if i can record the traffic with "gkrellm"? So that it told me 50 MB tx and 60 MB rx for example? |
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| 19:59.47 | riv3t_ | to make aterm transparent is #aterm -t But how do I make it always start with transparency? |
| 19:59.58 | riv3t_ | aterm -tr I mean |
| 19:59.59 | valdyn | DrRighteous: is there a user that you never logged in with before? |
| 20:00.29 | DrRighteous | not really.. put I could upload a modified passwd or shadow file |
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| 20:00.30 | mwilson | riv3t_: That's how. |
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| 20:00.41 | abrotman | did he say .. via FTP .. root account ? |
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| 20:00.46 | valdyn | DrRighteous: alright, try logging in from a different host then |
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| 20:00.53 | DrRighteous | yes... tried that... |
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| 20:01.07 | quittt | hahaha |
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| 20:01.15 | mwilson | riv3t_: Or you set the appropriate X resource, which is why aterm has that mysterious thing called "documentation", which you have to actually READ. |
| 20:01.17 | valdyn | DrRighteous: really locked yourself out then... |
| 20:01.20 | quittt | is someone having the same problems that I do? |
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| 20:01.51 | rec_ | Eulex, installing without using linux26 works great. Apparently the linux26 installation process needs help. |
| 20:01.52 | abrotman | he did say FTP .. and root .. didn't he? |
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| 20:02.28 | Frem | Hey, what kernel module does the xircom RealPort Ethernet 10/100 pcmcia card use? |
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| 20:03.18 | asg | Frem: find /lib/module/$(uname -r) -type f -name '*xircom*' |
| 20:03.19 | Frem | oh, never mind, it just auto detected. cool. |
| 20:03.28 | groton | so, anyone know which package overwrite resolv.conf? |
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| 20:03.39 | asg | groton: your dhcp client probably |
| 20:03.40 | mwilson | groton: Several. |
| 20:03.46 | quittt | hey who is using etch with gnome?: |
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| 20:03.56 | donald | groton: when you get an ip via dhcp |
| 20:04.02 | Coweater | quittt: survey... |
| 20:04.03 | groton | asg: i checked, dhcp-client is not installed |
| 20:04.13 | asg | groton: is pump? or dhclient? |
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| 20:04.22 | groton | pump is not installed either |
| 20:04.27 | asg | groton: what symptom are you getting and under what condition? |
| 20:04.57 | groton | asg: basically i have to create the resolv.conf file each time i reboot |
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| 20:05.17 | vineet | groton: does /etc/network/interfaces mention dhcp? |
| 20:05.18 | valdyn | DrRighteous: try removing ~/.ssh/known_hosts, that is all i know you could do, looks to me like the source of eror is something else though |
| 20:05.24 | groton | vineet: let me check |
| 20:05.27 | asg | groton: then create it, use chattr(1) to make it immutable, look in the logs for something complaining that it can't futz with it. |
| 20:05.42 | abrotman | valdyn: well .. given he has been FTPing in as root .. |
| 20:05.42 | vineet | groton: you can also check syslog to see if there's anything about dhcp |
| 20:05.46 | groton | vineet: not at all |
| 20:06.11 | groton | vinn, asg: ok, i will check , many thanks |
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| 20:06.32 | quittt | Coweater, it is really anoying me |
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| 20:06.58 | abrotman | quittt: #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
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| 20:08.04 | groton | huh? i found that there is a link: resolv.conf->/etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf in /etc. What is that? |
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| 20:08.47 | vineet | you must have the resolvconf package installed |
| 20:08.52 | vineet | that would be the culprit |
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| 20:09.03 | Eulex | rec_, maybe you got your hands on a release candidate cd? and yes, the 2.6 kernel on the install cd ain't perfect |
| 20:09.05 | groton | have i to remove it? or just to reconfigure it? |
| 20:09.19 | gozz | can somone tell me how to start jre ? it dosent say how on the website and limewire isnt detecting it |
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| 20:09.23 | vineet | groton: either one -- if you don't want it, just get rid of it |
| 20:09.24 | quittt | abrotman, there is no one there |
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| 20:09.30 | groton | vineet: thx a lot |
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| 20:09.33 | abrotman | quittt: bullshit |
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| 20:09.43 | valdyn | groton: resolvconf is used to set your nameserver from dhcp, if you dont want that and dont specify your nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces, feel free to remove it. |
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| 20:10.18 | groton | ok |
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| 20:10.30 | mwilson | Uh, no, dhcp is used to set your nameserver from DHCP. resolveconf manages changes across differing networks. |
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| 20:11.46 | Oryn | anyone know if there is a fix for xine-ui? |
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| 20:12.12 | streuner | Oryn: try mplayer or vlc |
| 20:12.15 | gozz | i know on windows java automaticly starts must i reboot or somthing? |
| 20:12.22 | mwilson | Oryn: Anyone other than you know what it is that you might be thinking is broken about xine-ui? |
| 20:12.25 | valdyn | groton: alright, as mwilson sais i was wrong, resolvconf does what I said not "for dhcp" but for ppp connections |
| 20:12.41 | streuner | mwilson: it won't start in unstable |
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| 20:12.44 | win_DoubleHP | how to TRY to recover just deleted files on ext3 fs ? |
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| 20:12.59 | mwilson | streuner: And that's bad? |
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| 20:13.15 | streuner | mwilson: no, we have alternatives in debian ;-) |
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| 20:13.39 | mwilson | I think I'd do without before using crap like xine. |
| 20:13.45 | groton | valdyn: wel, i remove resolvconf package anyway, i dont need it i think. now im rebooting to see. if it does get overwritten again. |
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| 20:14.33 | foo | How can I find out some of the programs that are taking up the most room? I forget |
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| 20:14.52 | Oryn | mwilson: I take it you dont like xine then |
| 20:15.06 | me_here | why libdvdcss2 in debian fails to mount some dvds ? |
| 20:15.33 | mwilson | libdvdcss has nothing to do with mounting a DVD. |
| 20:15.39 | valdyn | me_here: video dvd do not get mounted to be viewed, nor has libdvdcss2 anything to do with mounting |
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| 20:16.29 | me_here | valdyn: i don't understand that, one minutes before it wouldn't even recognize the dvd in the drive, now it plays, as soon as i told you lol |
| 20:16.39 | me_here | pah |
| 20:16.40 | whatever | does anyone know of a good program or website resource (I guess kinda like MSDN from MS?) for standard class refferences and calls? |
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| 20:16.55 | me_here | real magic xine |
| 20:16.55 | valdyn | win_DoubleHP: you could try e2undel and recover, dont get your hopes up though |
| 20:17.16 | shingouz | me_here: it takes a while for the system to decrypt the dvd |
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| 20:17.30 | valdyn | whatever: apt-cache search devhelp |
| 20:17.37 | whatever | valdyn: ty |
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| 20:17.52 | win_DoubleHP | valdyn: I dont hope that much ... just try ... |
| 20:18.05 | ma3x | hey |
| 20:18.12 | ma3x | how can i remove the k3b splash logo? |
| 20:18.14 | ma3x | it's bothering me |
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| 20:18.45 | mwilson | It's a KDE app. It's supposed to be annoying. |
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| 20:18.52 | ldexter | heh |
| 20:19.04 | ma3x | mwilson, it's a great app |
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| 20:19.34 | mwilson | Since when? It is, after all, a KDE app. |
| 20:19.53 | Gary_63 | k3b is a good ap |
| 20:20.01 | ma3x | that's right |
| 20:20.01 | me_here | shingouz: you maybe right, i never considered that, thx all :) |
| 20:20.04 | ma3x | tell that mwilson |
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| 20:20.11 | ma3x | he's a DOS fan |
| 20:20.15 | valdyn | win_DoubleHP: i recall this devhelp and c++ stdlib docs too, not sure in which package, libstdc++6*doc packages might be that |
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| 20:20.26 | mwilson | Or maybe it accidentally is. Functionality has never been particularly high on the KDE feature list. |
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| 20:21.41 | rking | what's the rule on email headers? everything gets \r\n's until the body, or just the separator between the header and body? |
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| 20:21.58 | mwilson | What's the RFC say? |
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| 20:22.15 | win_DoubleHP | valdyn: not vital files ... just gonna train in case tomorrow I loose more ... |
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| 20:24.29 | mfrisch | lag 34?? |
| 20:24.39 | ma3x | yes you want more? |
| 20:24.41 | a13s | hi, can you give some hint ? : kernel panic - not syncing. No init found. Try passing init = option to kernel |
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| 20:25.08 | mohkohn | Solved the hostname problem. Now Gnome gets to a banner and freezes, while kde gets to the banner where it says "Initialising System Services" |
| 20:25.37 | asg | mfrisch: your packets need a pick-me-up |
| 20:26.01 | mfrisch | asg ;-) |
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| 20:27.06 | dvs | !root |
| 20:27.07 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 20:27.23 | me_here | bye now |
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| 20:28.25 | spock_ | moin |
| 20:28.27 | mek__ | i have a stupid dependency problem with udev. Apt says it needs to install udev 0.068, but udev wants at least kernel 2.6.12. o i go for installing 2.6.12 image but it requires the problematic version of udev. |
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| 20:30.49 | Gary_63 | were did you get kernel 2.6.12? |
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| 20:32.07 | maffelu | what is the mkisofs command to convert a .bin file to a .iso? |
| 20:32.15 | maffelu | the man page doesn't help me |
| 20:32.32 | Fluten | i am using ppp-ssh to set up a secure vpn link, and have to connect through a gateway; once i get connected through the gateway, is there a way to change the vpn link to be the default gateway? |
| 20:32.42 | mwilson | maffelu: There isn't one, of course. |
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| 20:32.47 | Eulex | maffelu, try bchunk |
| 20:32.48 | maffelu | oh |
| 20:33.05 | maffelu | what is the command in bchunk then? |
| 20:33.14 | Fluten | when i try to change my gateway to the vpn link and restart the network interfaces, the vpn goes down because it can't reach the internet |
| 20:33.14 | asg | Fluten: man route |
| 20:33.21 | Eulex | maffelu, man bchunk |
| 20:33.24 | Gary_63 | use k3b or gnomebaker |
| 20:33.30 | mwilson | What does the bchunk documentation say it is? |
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| 20:34.10 | maffelu | Eulex, I'm a retard, and my english is horrible, man pages with advanced stuff kills me twice |
| 20:34.11 | mek__ | Gary_63: i did not get it. Here is the problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328981 |
| 20:34.18 | mwilson | Awwww |
| 20:34.33 | maffelu | bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo2.iso? |
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| 20:35.34 | Eulex | nah, bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo2 |
| 20:35.47 | maffelu | ah |
| 20:35.48 | maffelu | thanks |
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| 20:36.25 | Eulex | the last one is the basename -- bchunk adds numbers and .iso to it (because a .bin can contain several .isos) |
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| 20:39.16 | mage | hello |
| 20:39.33 | foo | Can I clear /var/cache on my debian system? |
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| 20:39.43 | mage | why is my RAID 5 ten times slower on a 2.6 kernel than on a 2.4 kernel ? |
| 20:39.54 | pipeline | mage: Tried changing schedulers? |
| 20:40.00 | slack7384 | mage: udev possibly? |
| 20:40.07 | mage | I haven't installed udev |
| 20:40.16 | asg | foo: try 'apt-get clean' first |
| 20:40.17 | slack7384 | mage: or as pipeline suggested then |
| 20:40.42 | slack7384 | mage: maybe cron is running at the wrong times? |
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| 20:40.49 | mage | mh no |
| 20:41.09 | mage | I'me running the dead... scheduler |
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| 20:41.47 | madradrone | does disabling HT in the bios cut P4 performance? if so, how much? |
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| 20:42.29 | dvs | madradrone: If you're not using an smp kernel, it won't make a difference. |
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| 20:42.44 | madradrone | dvs: assuming an SMP kernel of course |
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| 20:43.10 | shevek | I want to use a nice font in LaTeX (where I haven't decided what I want exactly). Is there some way to get an overview of available fonts? Should I install some packages to get a bigger selection? |
| 20:43.20 | dvs | madradrone: Then you won't get multi processing. |
| 20:43.28 | asg | shevek: ctan.org, #latex |
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| 20:43.44 | shevek | asg: Thanks |
| 20:43.46 | madradrone | dvs: uh, i sort of guessed that. my question is, how much if any of a performance hit |
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| 20:43.50 | azeem | hi shevek |
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| 20:44.01 | foo | asg: Thanks |
| 20:44.02 | shevek | azeem: Hey |
| 20:44.07 | dvs | madradrone: I'm not sure |
| 20:44.25 | shingouz | madradrone: theoretically it should lose 50% on a real smp, on a HT cpu like the P4 the theoretical loss should be about 40%. YMMV though |
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| 20:45.08 | madradrone | shingouz: but when HT is off then isn't the "single" remaining CPU more powerful than the 2 HT ones? |
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| 20:45.24 | shingouz | madradrone: no idea, i use real smp :p |
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| 20:45.49 | asg | madradrone: I've heard that but have no evidence. Try ##kernelnewbies perhaps or ##linux |
| 20:46.03 | shingouz | madradrone: try it for the hell of it. take some benchmarks and see what happens |
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| 20:47.50 | mohkohn | The problem turned out to be the loopback lo |
| 20:47.55 | madradrone | shingouz: aside from checking the bogomips, i'm not sure what precise benchmarks i can run. i can try subjective stuff like opening apps. |
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| 20:48.48 | madradrone | actually, i guess i could run some complex imagemagick transform on a large image as a benchmark |
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| 20:49.07 | dotfle | how do I kill xserver and run just from a console?? |
| 20:49.21 | asg | dotfle: Ctrl+F1 (kill *dm or X) |
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| 20:49.22 | madradrone | and some cpuburn stuff |
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| 20:49.49 | asg | dotfle: to do it permanently, /msg dpkg nodm |
| 20:50.20 | dotfle | i dont want to do it perminantly... im just trying to install something that wants xserver not running. |
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| 20:50.50 | cadu | Coweater: /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xorg doesn`t has `dvorak` but xorg.lst has it...why??? |
| 20:50.53 | cadu | Coweater: any tips??? |
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| 20:50.55 | mwilson | Translation... he thinks he needs to use nVidia's installer. |
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| 20:51.07 | shingouz | madradrone: do a kernel compile with time |
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| 20:52.34 | user_ | hi |
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| 20:53.47 | asg | dotfle: rather ctrl+alt+f1 |
| 20:53.51 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 20:53.58 | asg | !b-e kuser |
| 20:53.58 | dpkg | kuser: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 20:54.00 | kuser | on debian testing |
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| 20:54.02 | quittt | is anybody here having problems with gnome and debian menu? |
| 20:54.07 | kuser | asg, thanks :) |
| 20:54.22 | sether | quittt: no, are you? |
| 20:54.24 | spoopin | asg: hi |
| 20:54.27 | asg | spoopin: hiya |
| 20:54.30 | kuser | Setting up build-essential (11.1) ... |
| 20:54.30 | kuser | debian:/atcacl/csource# gcc -o idown idown.c |
| 20:54.30 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 20:54.33 | kuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.37 | asg | spoopin: things appear to be back to normal |
| 20:54.40 | kuser | still got the problem |
| 20:54.52 | spoopin | asg: yep. drive checks are a long story |
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| 20:55.05 | quittt | sether, |
| 20:55.08 | quittt | with etch |
| 20:55.17 | spoopin | asg: but fixed... |
| 20:55.17 | quittt | the menu is doubled |
| 20:55.21 | Smerdyakov | My identd seems to be returning random names. Anyone know what I would change so it returns correct usernames? |
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| 20:55.36 | asg | spoopin: cool, shoot me some mail with an explanation. M will want to know. |
| 20:55.37 | sether | quittt: what do you mean by doubled? which menu? |
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| 20:56.00 | Oryn | mwilson: (regarding xine-ui) looks like something changed in glibc building from source (apt-get source xine-ui -b) creates a working deb (tested here on 2 machines that both had broken xine-ui before) I might add its the ui not libxine thats at fault gxine is unaffected |
| 20:56.07 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
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| 20:56.10 | spoopin | asg: about the drive checks? or the general outage? |
| 20:56.12 | azeta | someone has tried to compile (sarge)openafs modules for kernel 2.6.13 in powerpc? |
| 20:56.24 | quittt | sether, debian menus are duplicated |
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| 20:56.29 | azeem | kuser: run gcc -v and perhaps with strace |
| 20:56.29 | quittt | each application appers two times |
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| 20:56.44 | soulse- | hi |
| 20:56.55 | sether | quittt: that's probably an issue because you're not running stable. i'm running stable and not having that issue. |
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| 20:57.05 | c_olin | what is the plugin for xmms to be able to play .mpc files? |
| 20:57.15 | soulse- | is there any chan about networking related packages in debian? |
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| 20:57.36 | asg | spoopin: drive checks. If you have any info about the general outage, that would be helpful as well. It looks from here like TW had a major issue (last trace I did sent me to Chicago before timing out for a bit and sending me back through Atlanta ;) |
| 20:57.37 | azeem | soulse-: I don't think there's another one than this |
| 20:57.39 | Egy | hello. Can you think of an efficient way of backing up a vpopmail homedir, which currently is ~800 MB, and I want that backup made on regular basis? |
| 20:58.01 | mwilson | Oryn: Why do you tell me this? Did you bother filing a bug, so that the problem could be corrected? |
| 20:58.06 | soulse- | azeem: k ... |
| 20:58.10 | spoopin | asg: yeah. lemme call you... |
| 20:58.16 | asg | spoopin: k |
| 20:58.35 | quittt | sether, stable is old |
| 20:58.47 | abrotman | no it's not |
| 20:58.48 | soulse- | t |
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| 20:58.51 | abrotman | stable is just fine |
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| 20:59.06 | gromgull | right, i've built a new kernel using make-kpgk, but I have no initrd file... where does that come from? |
| 20:59.20 | quittt | abrotman, it doesnt have applications that I need |
| 20:59.24 | mwilson | Does the kernel you've created need one? |
| 20:59.26 | abrotman | quittt: like what? |
| 20:59.26 | Oryn | mwilson: no, whats the point of filling out a bug report if I have no usefull information to put in it? Yes I know I do now have such info and will duely go and fill out a bug |
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| 20:59.36 | Oryn | report |
| 20:59.36 | jbroome | quittt: then run something else.. or run testing |
| 20:59.37 | quittt | lots |
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| 20:59.39 | abrotman | like? |
| 20:59.48 | quittt | I am running testing |
| 20:59.50 | abrotman | quittt: what doesn't it have? |
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| 20:59.56 | mwilson | abrotman: Oh, you meanie... expecting him to actually have EXAMPLES! |
| 21:00.02 | abrotman | oh .. shame on me |
| 21:00.04 | quittt | abrotman, I dont know |
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| 21:00.14 | shingouz | lart, anyone :p |
| 21:00.15 | abrotman | quittt: you don't know .. you just fuck up your box because ... you're cool ? |
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| 21:00.23 | abrotman | cause .. you're smart? |
| 21:00.27 | quittt | I didnt fucked up |
| 21:00.36 | abrotman | aren't your menus fucked up ? |
| 21:00.39 | gromgull | mwilson, yes it doesn't boot without one |
| 21:00.45 | abrotman | right .. thought so .. |
| 21:00.49 | quittt | they arent fucked up... they are duplicated |
| 21:00.54 | abrotman | that's fucked up |
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| 21:01.06 | shingouz | duplicated = fucked up |
| 21:01.13 | abrotman | why use perfectly functional software .. let me use stuff that's broken .. yay! |
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| 21:01.33 | quittt | abrotman, because they are old and I need some things to do what I want |
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| 21:01.40 | shingouz | yeah.. how much do you like to bleed on the edge |
| 21:01.42 | quittt | I had problems with Sarge |
| 21:01.45 | abrotman | quittt: your menus are old? |
| 21:01.49 | mwilson | quittt: But you have no idea what those things are, apparently. |
| 21:01.55 | shingouz | and now you have problems with etch... |
| 21:01.57 | abrotman | quittt: you haven't told me a single application that you *need* from etch |
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| 21:02.09 | quittt | it doesnt mather |
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| 21:02.18 | jbroome | just run fc4 and leave us alone. :) |
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| 21:02.27 | mwilson | If it doesn't matter, then you can as easily use stable. |
| 21:02.34 | abrotman | hehe ... |
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| 21:02.41 | quittt | it is not possible |
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| 21:02.47 | jbroome | and experience the pain of apt4rpm |
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| 21:02.51 | abrotman | your honor .. i have exhibit A here .. the defendent is obviously guilty |
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| 21:03.19 | tonsofpcs | abrotman - you are the defendant. |
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| 21:03.25 | abrotman | no i'm not |
| 21:03.25 | shingouz | sunday. definitely sunday |
| 21:03.29 | quittt | abrotman, it is just a problem |
| 21:03.30 | mwilson | quittt: And why is it not possible? |
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| 21:03.43 | quittt | mwilson, because I dont wanna download whole debian again |
| 21:03.47 | abrotman | quittt: you don't know what the problem is .. you've broken your machine now . for apparently no good reason |
| 21:04.01 | abrotman | he can't even find #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
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| 21:04.06 | quittt | abrotman, I DIDNT BROKEN MY MACHINE |
| 21:04.16 | mwilson | quittt: Of course you did. |
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| 21:04.23 | abrotman | quittt: what is wrong wiht your menus then? |
| 21:04.26 | mwilson | quittt: Deliberately, even. |
| 21:04.35 | abrotman | oh .. that's right .. they're broken |
| 21:04.39 | jbroome | it's not dead yet |
| 21:04.50 | abrotman | don't advocate anything other than sarge if you can't get your own machine working correctly |
| 21:04.52 | jbroome | it's getting better |
| 21:05.08 | shingouz | jbroome: nope, still twitching (but i think it is just some residual binary action.....) |
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| 21:05.41 | quittt | abrotman, if you helped me instead finding who is guilty would help everyone |
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| 21:05.56 | abrotman | quittt: i already told you were to go .. you can't find your way there |
| 21:05.58 | abrotman | where |
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| 21:06.11 | bcc | Gathond: hey man, are you there? |
| 21:06.31 | shingouz | quittt: to put it plainly. you need to give us something to diagnose the system with. if you have no idea what the hell happens on the system, we cannot help you |
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| 21:06.54 | abrotman | shingouz: his menus in gnome are duplicated .. |
| 21:07.07 | c_olin | I'm trying to install an xmms plugin, but there when running ./configure it claims it cant find 'xmms-config'... so i looked for it manually, but i didnt even find it... any ideas? |
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| 21:07.20 | gromgull | what determines if a kernel needs a initrd? |
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| 21:07.28 | abrotman | if it's an initrd kernel :) |
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| 21:07.35 | gromgull | thanks! :) |
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| 21:07.40 | shingouz | abrotman: yup. and he has been given hints and clues all day now. even a few clue-by-fours |
| 21:07.41 | abrotman | gromgull: was your kernel compiled with the initrd options ? |
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| 21:07.49 | abrotman | shingouz: i know .. |
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| 21:08.05 | mwilson | quittt: You were given excellent help. You choose to ignore it. |
| 21:08.06 | madradrone | shingouz: is there some way to keep track of the time of a kernel compile? |
| 21:08.08 | Mr-R | c_olin: install xmms-dev |
| 21:08.09 | eck | what does an initrd do? |
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| 21:08.13 | c_olin | thanks |
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| 21:08.16 | abrotman | !initrd |
| 21:08.17 | dpkg | i heard initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
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| 21:08.27 | shingouz | madradrone: time make-kpkg yadayadayada |
| 21:08.28 | eck | thanks ;) |
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| 21:08.44 | madradrone | shingouz: right on. will do that |
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| 21:08.55 | shingouz | madradrone: man time ;) |
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| 21:09.30 | mua | Good day fellows.. |
| 21:09.56 | GenNMX | Hey, I am using Sarge and got stuck with a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop w/ e2fsprogs. I've been fiddling with apt-get for a while now trying to fix it. Anyone encountered this problem before? |
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| 21:10.18 | abrotman | shingouz: well .. guess he found some advice :) |
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| 21:10.31 | drc | how can I block several IP's or the way how some people try to sneak in my computer with random usernames / root passwords? |
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| 21:10.48 | jbroome | move ssh to a non-standard port |
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| 21:11.00 | shingouz | drc: man hosts.deny |
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| 21:11.07 | jbroome | that too |
| 21:11.10 | drc | I saw some ssh2 connections to weird port |
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| 21:11.19 | Ether_Man | or telnet.. or whatever service they are now trying to login to ^_^ |
| 21:11.23 | drc | jbroome: so it's actually recommended to move ssh's port? |
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| 21:11.28 | shingouz | drc: iptables has some cool tools too for that matter. and remove telnetd |
| 21:11.29 | john | yeah, /etc/hosts.allow/.deny and move your ssh offa 22. |
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| 21:11.41 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 21:11.43 | kuser | help |
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| 21:11.54 | jbroome | the dinky script they're using is only looking for ssh on 22 |
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| 21:12.23 | drc | I've never had telnetd |
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| 21:12.53 | shingouz | drc: some do... and they should be larted for having it (as we all know) |
| 21:12.57 | drc | jbroome: ok, so I'll just move the port. |
| 21:13.03 | Ether_Man | Neither have I.. But I do have an ftpd that ppl are trying to access like crazy ^_^ |
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| 21:13.13 | MegaByte | For anyone that wants to see, my new playmidi version is out. |
| 21:13.16 | MegaByte | http://freshmeat.net/projects/playmidi_megabyte_release/ |
| 21:13.25 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 21:13.28 | kuser | help!!!! |
| 21:13.39 | streuner | !b-e kuser |
| 21:13.40 | shingouz | !tell kuser about repeat |
| 21:13.40 | dpkg | kuser: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 21:14.05 | drc | btw, can I use any port I want or do you have any suggestions between some port ranges? just wondering |
| 21:14.22 | shingouz | drc: any port that is not used on your system already |
| 21:14.36 | drc | okay |
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| 21:14.47 | jbroome | i usually use 2222 just b/c that's easy for me to remeber |
| 21:14.53 | kuser | dpkg kuser: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 21:14.54 | kuser | I did |
| 21:14.56 | drc | another question comes to my mind.. do these scripters ever succeed on getting on someones comp? |
| 21:15.06 | drc | my passwords are so hard that they would never succeed :P |
| 21:15.06 | kuser | Unpacking build-essential (from .../build-essential_11.1_i386.deb) ... |
| 21:15.06 | kuser | Setting up build-essential (11.1) ... |
| 21:15.06 | shingouz | drc: just be smart and make it something you can actually remember, it is a pain in the ass to nmap the box just to see where the ssh really lurks |
| 21:15.13 | Ether_Man | Sooner or later.. probably.. |
| 21:15.14 | jbroome | yeah, if you've got user accounts with weak-ass pws |
| 21:15.16 | shingouz | drc: yes they do |
| 21:15.17 | drc | shingouz: hehe |
| 21:15.23 | drc | shingouz: how often? |
| 21:15.29 | quittt | abrotman, I DIDNT BROKE ANYTHING... it is a gnome bug |
| 21:15.35 | jbroome | hahah, he's back |
| 21:15.39 | drc | shingouz: how is it even possible, there are so many alternatives |
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| 21:16.00 | drc | of course it is possible but |
| 21:16.11 | Oryn | mwilson: bug submited |
| 21:16.18 | shingouz | drc: how often do they pwnz0r someones computer? often. real often. just look at all the bots on warez channels |
| 21:16.20 | jbroome | drc: i'm sure there are boxes out there with a username of bob and pw of bob. just a matter of time before a script finds it |
| 21:16.22 | abrotman | quittt: funny .. i don't have that problem in stable/sarge .. maybe you shouldn't be using testing |
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| 21:16.46 | kuser | Setting up build-essential (11.1) ... |
| 21:16.51 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 21:16.51 | kuser | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:16.55 | kuser | still won't work |
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| 21:18.21 | abrotman | !update-menus |
| 21:18.22 | dpkg | update-menus is, like, a utility used in the Debian Menu System. Originally inspired by the install-fvwm2-menu program from the old fvwm2 package; it tries to provide a somewhat more general inteface for menu building for the X Window System. |
| 21:19.17 | De_Mon | [odd.. I just dist-upgraded and lost my uw-imapd /etc/inetd.conf lines |
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| 21:19.53 | jbroome | sounds like the universe wants you to use courier |
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| 21:20.26 | drc | hmm, I couldn't find sshd in init.d, how do I restart it? :P |
| 21:20.52 | De_Mon | drc it may not be installed as a daemon (you don't have to restart it) |
| 21:21.07 | drc | De_Mon: so the configs take place immediately? |
| 21:21.18 | drc | doesn't look like it |
| 21:21.22 | shingouz | drc: with a -SIGHUP perhaps? |
| 21:21.27 | De_Mon | the next time someone logs in anyway |
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| 21:23.08 | larrikin | can somebody tell me how a devfs system that names hda as /dev/discs/disc0 (possibly unique to deb-installer) would name the various partitions of /dev/discs/disc0 ? |
| 21:23.17 | dotfle | wow. even the bot is ingoring me. |
| 21:24.05 | EdLin | shingouz: you mean -HUP |
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| 21:26.07 | shingouz | EdLin: i think so. i need both sleep and caffeine already :( |
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| 21:27.01 | Heimidal | code: Bad EIP value |
| 21:27.01 | Heimidal | <0> Kernal panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 21:27.11 | Heimidal | can anyone offer any clue as to what that means? |
| 21:27.12 | shingouz | !kernal |
| 21:27.13 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 21:27.20 | drc | hmm, I figured it out, had to restart ssh not sshd :P |
| 21:27.26 | shingouz | Heimidal: custom kernel? |
| 21:27.33 | Heimidal | yes, sorry, I just copied/pasted |
| 21:27.49 | EdLin | shingouz: the system call syntax is SIGKILL I think, maybe that's what made you think that. |
| 21:28.02 | shingouz | Heimidal: if that is a custom, reconfigure and recompile |
| 21:28.06 | GenNMX | Alright, I'm thoroughly confused. I activated the APT::Force-LoopBreak option in /etc/apt/apt.conf to allow me to upgrade e2fsprogs, but apt-get is trying to remove kernel-image-2.4.27-1-386 and initrd-tools without upgrading them! |
| 21:28.08 | dotfle | how do I stop xserver?? I just killed it as root and that just restarted it.... |
| 21:28.13 | Heimidal | shingouz: it doesn't even get to a login prompt. |
| 21:28.13 | shingouz | EdLin: sec. i'll rtfm a bit :p |
| 21:28.32 | shingouz | Heimidal: *is* it a custom kernel? |
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| 21:30.29 | shingouz | EdLin: man kill (1), description, third sentence... we both are right |
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| 21:31.07 | quittt | what is a great email program for Debian? |
| 21:31.24 | Heimidal | shingouz: all I did was install apt-get Apache and PHP... then I sent it off to the datacenter |
| 21:31.32 | rhalff | quittt, wine + outlook express |
| 21:31.37 | dotfle | i tried cntl+alt+backspace, kill process, runlevel3, it WONT DIE!!! How do I stop X!? |
| 21:31.45 | quittt | rhalff, roftlmao |
| 21:31.56 | paulswm | quittt: depends what you want, if you want an all-in-one email client, Thunderbird should fit the bill nively |
| 21:32.00 | shingouz | rhalff: *what*? you better lay off the crack |
| 21:32.02 | mwilson | dotfle: Why do you need to stop X? |
| 21:32.02 | quittt | a command text |
| 21:32.02 | paulswm | nicely |
| 21:32.27 | dotfle | because this nvidia installer says stop X. |
| 21:32.27 | mwilson | dotfle: And why would you expect changing runlevels to do it? |
| 21:32.35 | shingouz | !tell dotfle about nodm |
| 21:32.36 | mwilson | Figured as much. |
| 21:32.37 | dotfle | because thats what a tutorial said |
| 21:32.45 | Mr-R | dotfle: try as the in X logged in user: "kill -1 -1" and after that (dangerous) "kill -9 -1" |
| 21:32.58 | mwilson | No Debian tutorial told you to mess with the runlevel. |
| 21:33.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 720] by debhelper |
| 21:33.06 | mwilson | Don't use the nVidia installer. |
| 21:33.09 | EdLin | shingouz: man 7 signal |
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| 21:33.18 | shingouz | sec |
| 21:33.21 | dotfle | mwilson:... |
| 21:33.23 | quittt | paulswm, I mean a without X |
| 21:33.25 | EdLin | shingouz: there's a method to your madness. ;-) |
| 21:33.36 | quittt | EdLin, madness is a good ska band |
| 21:33.51 | dotfle | kill works fine but then X just springs back to life again. |
| 21:34.01 | shingouz | EdLin: i guess we both are right in a way |
| 21:34.10 | shingouz | dotfle: stop the dm then |
| 21:34.12 | abrotman | paulswm: my debian accidentally installed suse!! |
| 21:34.30 | shingouz | dotfle: you didn't happen to read what dpkg told you? |
| 21:34.37 | EdLin | shingouz: kill(1) though lists them without SIG |
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| 21:35.00 | dotfle | yes... |
| 21:35.02 | quittt | shingouz, do you know how? |
| 21:35.16 | Mr-R | dotfle: try "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" and "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" :) |
| 21:35.26 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 21:35.29 | paulswm | abrotman: And I suppose you traded in your CD reader :) |
| 21:35.36 | shingouz | EdLin: read the description on man kill. third sentence. you either kill -9, kill -KILL or kill -SIGKILL :p |
| 21:36.06 | EdLin | shingouz: oops, missed that one. :-) |
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| 21:36.12 | dotfle | Mr-R: thank you. |
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| 21:36.36 | TermaKill | hello,I am having trouble getting the xserver to run on my g3 imac.Anyone have any ideas? |
| 21:36.37 | paulswm | BTW, there are two kills: the bash builtin, and the standalone one |
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| 21:36.49 | shingouz | EdLin: i just hate to say this: rtfm ;) |
| 21:36.55 | mememe | hi |
| 21:37.05 | mememe | I have the following situation, I'm in a closed env which allows output traffic to very few ports (21, 23, 80, 110, 143, 443, and little more) |
| 21:37.06 | TermaKill | hello |
| 21:37.11 | Heimidal | anyone have any clue? |
| 21:37.13 | quittt | what is the name of a complete shell email program? |
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| 21:37.33 | abrotman | paulswm: heh |
| 21:37.48 | mememe | do you people know if I configured my home server as a vtund server and my computer inside the env as a client |
| 21:38.12 | Mr-R | quittt: pine, mutt, emacs. i dunno |
| 21:38.14 | shingouz | quittt: how about apt-cache search mail ? |
| 21:38.25 | mememe | I could get to use my computer at that env normally (I mean, with no port restrinction) |
| 21:38.50 | mrrangerman | hey all |
| 21:38.54 | TermaKill | hello |
| 21:39.00 | Rawplaye1 | j0j0 nigga p1mp wazzaaap |
| 21:39.13 | rhalff | quittt, mutt is available in debian, pine isn't I think by default. |
| 21:39.14 | TermaKill | haha |
| 21:39.21 | EdLin | quittt: you probably already have mutt installed |
| 21:39.21 | paulswm | EdLin: the bash builtin kill can be with or without the SIG prefix (see man bash), and the standalone one also |
| 21:39.49 | EdLin | paulswm: cool |
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| 21:41.24 | rhalff | pine is part of fetchmail or something ? |
| 21:41.30 | rhalff | why is there pine-docs and no pine :) |
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| 21:41.40 | nkuttler | rhalff: /msg dpkg pine |
| 21:41.44 | EdLin | rhalff: pine is non-free |
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| 21:41.55 | kuser | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 21:41.58 | TermaKill | does anyonw know how to get the xserver to run on a g3 imac? |
| 21:42.00 | kuser | how do I fix this |
| 21:42.10 | kuser | I have build-essencal in |
| 21:42.28 | kuser | I'm on debian testing |
| 21:42.28 | streuner | kuser: show us the full error in paster (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 21:42.29 | rhalff | EdLin, ah ok |
| 21:42.33 | mrrangerman | can someone tell me how to unzip a .deb file, im a noob at this stuff. do I use tar? |
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| 21:42.54 | nkuttler | mrrangerman: ar |
| 21:42.55 | azeem | mrrangerman: no, a .deb is an ar archive of tar.gz's |
| 21:42.56 | streuner | mrrangerman: man ar, man dpkg |
| 21:43.08 | azeem | mrrangerman: or man dpkg-deb |
| 21:43.37 | mwilson | Why do you think you need to extract a deb file? |
| 21:45.07 | kuser | http://channels.debian.net/paste/734 |
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| 21:45.52 | mrrangerman | i downloaded a kernel-doc.deb file and am trying to open it |
| 21:45.57 | kuser | streuner http://channels.debian.net/paste/734. |
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| 21:46.06 | azeem | kuser: what about gcc -v? |
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| 21:46.38 | nkuttler | mrrangerman: why don't you apt-get or dpkg -i it? |
| 21:47.18 | Blebleman | Hi, I'm really new to using linux, and especially X, and I'd like some help with configuring it. |
| 21:47.46 | pandrew | Hello! I have a problem: when i start printing a page from kword my printer starts printing text (garbage) that starts like this: %!PS-Adobe-1.0 (does it think that my printer is a postscript printer?). Wath can i do? (I have an epson ActionPrinter5000 esc/p2) |
| 21:47.49 | nkuttler | Blebleman: just ask your questions |
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| 21:48.17 | Blebleman | I need to know how to change my screen's config. Right now, it only shows up to 800x600, but I know it can go much higher...I want it at least at 1024. |
| 21:48.32 | EdLin | !drxx Blebleman |
| 21:48.33 | dpkg | Blebleman: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 21:48.53 | mrrangerman | would i do like apt-get /path/ file? |
| 21:49.12 | nkuttler | mrrangerman: man apt-get, man dpkg, dpkg for this |
| 21:49.20 | kuser | azeem, http://channels.debian.net/paste/735 |
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| 21:51.18 | Blebleman | Wow. Thanks. |
| 21:51.33 | uebe | hello everibody |
| 21:51.40 | TermaKill | hello |
| 21:51.46 | uebe | :) |
| 21:51.46 | pandrew | hello! how can i configure my printer correctly with lp? (i have an epson ap 5000 esc/p2 matrix printer) |
| 21:51.59 | coolpix | gn8 |
| 21:52.02 | vagabund | laalala - Dire Straits - WWhy Worry - |
| 21:52.06 | slack7384 | pandrew: do you mean lpr? |
| 21:52.21 | uebe | I using Kurumin Linux, a brasilian version of Knoppix |
| 21:52.45 | uebe | Unfortunally I trying to play midi sounds and I can |
| 21:52.53 | uebe | Anyone knows why |
| 21:52.56 | uebe | ? |
| 21:52.58 | Blebleman | How do I know what package I need to reconfigure? Right now, only thing left to fix is sound. |
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| 21:53.04 | fbi | uebe: you aren't going to get a lot of support for that here. |
| 21:53.04 | uebe | What I need to configure |
| 21:53.04 | kuser | http://channels.debian.net/paste/735 |
| 21:53.14 | pandrew | i'm not sure, it appears "lp" in kword, and i think that i get postscript this way to my printer |
| 21:53.43 | pandrew | my printer does not support postscript |
| 21:53.57 | slack7384 | pandrew: sorry, I can't help you there :( |
| 21:54.18 | slack7384 | pandrew: I setup my Epson printer with CUPS |
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| 21:56.57 | Snadder | hi.. I got "yield_connection: tdb_delete for name failed with error Record does not exist." when i'm trying to start my samba server.. anyone know what could be wrong? |
| 21:57.11 | mwilson | pandrew: lp is CUPS' command-line printing application. |
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| 21:58.07 | lilgg | hello does any1 know if there are any packages out for e17? |
| 21:58.14 | honschu | Why isn't there the Kernelmodule saa7134 in debian's 2.4 kernel? |
| 21:58.21 | honschu | Do I need to use 2.6 ?? |
| 21:58.25 | mwilson | !any1 |
| 21:58.25 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 21:58.36 | mwilson | honschu: Why should there be? |
| 21:58.57 | honschu | I do not know - do you know? can you do a "locate saa7134"? |
| 21:58.57 | kuser | http://channels.debian.net/paste/735 |
| 21:59.01 | kuser | HELP |
| 21:59.19 | mwilson | lilgg: Looks like you'll have to wait for someone named 'any1' to join the channel. |
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| 21:59.52 | azeem | kuser: make sure cpp-4.0 and gcc-4.0 and related packages are up to date |
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| 22:00.10 | mwilson | kuser: Why would you need to compile such a silly application? |
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| 22:00.14 | lilgg | mwilson sorry i meant anyone :P |
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| 22:00.23 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 22:00.23 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> consider the answer to be "yes" if the program is actually in Debian.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 22:00.48 | ke6isf | lilgg: What is e17? |
| 22:01.04 | greycat | dpkg, anyone =~ s/consider the answer to be "yes" if the program is actually in Debian./ask me about <popcon> instead./ |
| 22:01.04 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 22:01.10 | mwilson | ke6isf: Enlightenment. |
| 22:01.14 | lilgg | ke6isf didnt ask if anyone uses the program or so. dont try to be a smart butt |
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| 22:01.30 | lilgg | ke6isf enlightenment version 17 |
| 22:01.33 | vagabund | mach das nochmal du schlampe ich töte dich - |
| 22:01.36 | mwilson | ke6isf: He's another one that thinks it'd be 'leet to use it. |
| 22:01.45 | azeem | vagabund: ECHAN |
| 22:01.45 | abrotman | !de |
| 22:01.46 | dpkg | well, de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 22:01.48 | kuser | mwilson: it's a test |
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| 22:01.57 | greycat | kuser: did you pass? |
| 22:01.58 | kuser | mwilson: to see if the compiler works, which it doesnt |
| 22:01.59 | ke6isf | lilgg: I'll be a smartass if I feel like it, and yes, enlightenment is in the repos. |
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| 22:02.04 | abrotman | i thought #d.de was unfriendly? |
| 22:02.05 | [sr] | hi |
| 22:02.11 | vagabund | jo its english - |
| 22:02.13 | [sr] | need some help with SQLlog from proftpd |
| 22:02.15 | [sr] | anyone? |
| 22:02.18 | kuser | greycat: the compiler failed :) |
| 22:02.20 | azeem | abrotman: his line was unfriendly as well |
| 22:02.23 | azeem | so hey... |
| 22:02.27 | kuser | cpp-4.0 is not available in testing |
| 22:02.28 | mwilson | kuser: No, printf("Hello, world.") is a test. This is something else. What is it? |
| 22:02.33 | abrotman | azeem: i don't speak german . i can't tell :) |
| 22:02.34 | lilgg | i know its cvs thats why im askin if there are any cvs packages out there for debian. |
| 22:02.42 | kuser | wait nm |
| 22:02.46 | azeem | "do that again bitch, and I'll kill you" |
| 22:02.46 | kuser | cpp-4.0 is already the newest version. |
| 22:02.54 | greycat | mwilson: "a confession that I'm too incompetent to write a hello world program", I'd guess. |
| 22:03.06 | kuser | Reinstallation of cpp-4.0 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 22:03.24 | greycat | !info cpp-4.0 etch |
| 22:03.26 | dpkg | cpp-4.0: (The GNU C preprocessor), section interpreters, is standard. Version: 4.0.1-2 (etch), Packaged size: 1990 kB, Installed size: 4424 kB |
| 22:03.32 | kuser | mwilson, a wrapper program so that some perl scripts can be su'd |
| 22:03.33 | greycat | !lose kuser |
| 22:03.34 | dpkg | kuser: You Lose. |
| 22:03.37 | kuser | *suid |
| 22:03.43 | [sr] | anyone? :P |
| 22:03.55 | abrotman | why does vagabund keep announcing his music preferences? |
| 22:03.55 | greycat | kuser: perl already has that facility. look for suidperl or perlsuid. I forget the name. |
| 22:03.57 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 22:03.57 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 22:04.03 | [sr] | lol |
| 22:04.04 | [sr] | ok.. |
| 22:04.08 | drac | !lol |
| 22:04.08 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 22:04.10 | [sr] | who can give a help? |
| 22:04.12 | ke6isf | lilgg: Why use the cvs version? |
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| 22:04.19 | kuser | greycat: anyway they work, I compile them on a diff box |
| 22:04.21 | ke6isf | !ask |
| 22:04.21 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 22:04.27 | kuser | but gcc in testing does not work |
| 22:04.33 | greycat | kuser: it's not OUR fault if YOU broke YOUR sources.list. |
| 22:04.42 | [sr] | who has good experience on using SQLLog from proftpd ? |
| 22:04.43 | lilgg | ke6isf because i want to try it. |
| 22:04.46 | kuser | ... |
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| 22:04.56 | ke6isf | lilgg: Well, why CVS when you can just apt-get? |
| 22:04.58 | mwilson | lilgg: So build it. |
| 22:05.13 | mwilson | ke6isf: E17 isn't released, isn't packaged. |
| 22:05.20 | ke6isf | mwilson: Ah, good point. |
| 22:05.23 | mwilson | ke6isf: Only e16 is. |
| 22:05.52 | lilgg | mwilson if i had the skills i would do that. |
| 22:06.05 | ke6isf | lilgg: Even that in mind, asking if there's a CVS or source version for Debian is like asking if there is water compatible with a Dr. Pepper bottle. Debian isn't *taht* different. |
| 22:06.08 | abrotman | mwilson: !dr17 ? |
| 22:06.13 | lilgg | also only if i had the skills i would talk in here tryin to help ppl |
| 22:06.18 | kuser | greycat, is this a fucking valid source: |
| 22:06.18 | Gnea | !dr17 |
| 22:06.19 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 22:06.20 | kuser | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main |
| 22:06.20 | kuser | deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main |
| 22:06.22 | kuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.30 | vagabund | das nächste mal stirbst du schatz - |
| 22:06.33 | kuser | it's not MY fault you broke the fucking packages |
| 22:06.37 | kuser | asshole |
| 22:06.37 | lilgg | Gnea thx ill check it |
| 22:07.05 | Gnea | kuser: are you a package maintainer? |
| 22:07.12 | kuser | Gnea, no |
| 22:07.15 | kuser | greycat is |
| 22:07.17 | kuser | fuck him |
| 22:07.18 | Gnea | kuser: then shut your hole. |
| 22:07.24 | abrotman | kuser: no he's not |
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| 22:07.27 | abrotman | idiot |
| 22:07.28 | Gnea | !ops kuser is abusive. |
| 22:07.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: kuser is abusive. |
| 22:07.31 | azeem | kuser: are you mikeusa? |
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| 22:07.35 | kuser | abrotman, so shouldn't he shut his hole? |
| 22:07.41 | greycat | kuser: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/ |
| 22:07.48 | abrotman | kuser: maybe you should be nice to people trying to help you? |
| 22:07.48 | azeem | kuser: my sister knows Linux better than you |
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| 22:08.05 | ke6isf | !ops Last quote from vagabund, translated by babelfish.altavista.com: "the next time you die treasure" |
| 22:08.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Last quote from vagabund, translated by babelfish.altavista.com: "the next time you die treasure" |
| 22:08.11 | helix | umm |
| 22:08.24 | mentor | kill kill kill |
| 22:08.30 | mentor | ahem |
| 22:08.33 | azeem | ke6isf: eh, s/treasure/bitch/, but anyway |
| 22:08.34 | gozz | is there a cd bruning app in debian? |
| 22:08.37 | Gnea | helix: what's with these tor users thinking they can get away with this? |
| 22:08.38 | abrotman | ke6isf: that's actually better than his last one that azeem translated |
| 22:08.40 | greycat | !faq gozz |
| 22:08.40 | dpkg | gozz: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 22:08.41 | abrotman | gozz: many |
| 22:08.46 | kuser | abrotman, I tried being nice, and got ignored |
| 22:08.52 | ke6isf | azeem: blame altavista. I don't sprechen. =^^= |
| 22:08.54 | azeem | abrotman: but he was using google, and I'm a native speaker |
| 22:08.55 | abrotman | kuser: oh .. good plan .. be abusive |
| 22:09.06 | kuser | azeem, your sister also knows alot of people better then you |
| 22:09.10 | kuser | Death To women's Rights |
| 22:09.11 | kuser | Death To women's Rights |
| 22:09.12 | *** kick/#debian [kuser!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 22:09.15 | azeem | hehe |
| 22:09.20 | mentor | haha |
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| 22:09.20 | greycat | TOR?!?!? |
| 22:09.21 | abrotman | wow .. it was mikeusa |
| 22:09.23 | abrotman | err is |
| 22:09.23 | vagabund | try it never ever - so i love you -- |
| 22:09.24 | Ronin | wow another day another dumb ass i see |
| 22:09.25 | ke6isf | abrotman: certainly sillier. |
| 22:09.25 | Gnea | what a piece of dog turd |
| 22:09.27 | greycat | WHAT the FUCK was a TOR user doing in here? |
| 22:09.27 | kuser | Death To women's Liberties |
| 22:09.29 | mentor | </nelson> |
| 22:09.29 | kuser | Death To women's Liberties |
| 22:09.32 | *** mode/#debian [+o asuffield] by ChanServ |
| 22:09.32 | *** kick/#debian [kuser!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 22:09.34 | azeem | helix: kuser is mikeusa |
| 22:09.35 | Gnea | please |
| 22:09.36 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@tor/*] by asuffield |
| 22:09.38 | Gnea | kill that thing |
| 22:09.41 | asuffield | duly un-tored |
| 22:09.47 | asuffield | somebody changed the stupid hostmask |
| 22:09.49 | greycat | !asuffield++ |
| 22:09.50 | ke6isf | !beer asuffield |
| 22:09.50 | helix | how did tor get unbanned? |
| 22:09.52 | *** mode/#debian [-o asuffield] by ChanServ |
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| 22:09.57 | abrotman | because it was too vague i think |
| 22:09.58 | asuffield | it didn't. tor hostmasks changed |
| 22:10.02 | helix | ah right |
| 22:10.06 | Gnea | greycat: there was another one on a day or two ago |
| 22:10.07 | vagabund | try it never - so I love you - |
| 22:10.08 | abrotman | it's been unbanned for a long time |
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| 22:10.14 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
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| 22:10.14 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 22:10.16 | greycat | 18:10 Ignoring MSGS from mikeeusa |
| 22:10.21 | abrotman | !beer helix |
| 22:10.25 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 22:10.27 | ke6isf | !helix++ |
| 22:10.29 | abrotman | !veggie helix :) |
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| 22:10.50 | abrotman | that worked well |
| 22:10.52 | streuner | haha, and i thought this sunday is boring :-) |
| 22:10.53 | helix | hm it came back |
| 22:10.54 | beardy | Good evening/day/morning/night, still sunday in many parts of the world, as everyone can tell.. |
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| 22:11.14 | ke6isf | streuner: One could hope. |
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| 22:11.41 | vagabund | try it never I never will help you - |
| 22:11.47 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 22:11.47 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@p508BC5F9.dip.t-dialin.net] by helix |
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| 22:12.00 | abrotman | is he quoting a song? |
| 22:12.02 | asuffield | t-dialin.net, what a surprise |
| 22:12.08 | greycat | wow, that's impressive. 10 minutes from /j #debian to being trolled by mikeeusa. |
| 22:12.30 | streuner | asuffield: about 90 % using it... |
| 22:12.39 | streuner | of all germans :-) |
| 22:12.48 | asuffield | yeah, the stupid, troll-infested 90% |
| 22:12.48 | Mr-R | hmpf. afaik vagabund is female. |
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| 22:13.00 | abrotman | does it matter? |
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| 22:13.05 | ke6isf | I get this feeling that t-dialin is the AOL of Germany or something? |
| 22:13.16 | asuffield | ke6isf: more like wanadoo, but more or less |
| 22:13.22 | Mr-R | abrotman: the orig quote was quite macho from her... |
| 22:13.23 | beardy | Mr-R: And that is an excuse of some kind, or what? |
| 22:13.34 | abrotman | Mr-R: it really doesn't matter |
| 22:13.35 | jeff01 | hey, i just installed a new motherboard/proc, and when i go to boot, it hangs up on, "Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order; 0, 4096 bytes)" |
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| 22:13.38 | greycat | Mr-R: are we supposed to put up with more shit from women than from men? |
| 22:13.45 | Mr-R | beardy: depends |
| 22:13.48 | Mr-R | nope. |
| 22:13.53 | Deep6 | anyone here run an NWN server on Debian? |
| 22:13.57 | greycat | !anyone |
| 22:13.57 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 22:14.00 | strevi | is there a known critical bug within mod_ssl (and apache2) which makes it crash after a while (not at once, but after a couple of requests) ? |
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| 22:14.17 | Deep6 | greycat, I think anyone is an appropriate q' ;) |
| 22:14.21 | abrotman | iirc .. apache2 has mod_ssl builtin |
| 22:14.22 | greycat | !polls |
| 22:14.22 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 22:14.39 | jeff01 | hey, i just installed a new motherboard/proc, and when i go to boot, it hangs up on, "Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order; 0, 4096 bytes)" |
| 22:14.39 | prott3r | there is an italian help channel? |
| 22:14.43 | greycat | !it |
| 22:14.44 | dpkg | somebody said italian was per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 22:14.47 | prott3r | tnx |
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| 22:14.53 | asuffield | greycat: you're married. why are you even asking? |
| 22:15.00 | Deep6 | grey, I love yah man...I really do...but sometimes! |
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| 22:15.08 | Deep6 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.11 | greycat | !bad polls |
| 22:15.11 | dpkg | The reasons we hate polls are because: 1) they are a massive waste of IRC and bandwidth and screen real estate when asked in a 700 person channel. Did you want 700 answers? 2) They're often a prelude to isolating one helper and barraging him or her in /msg. BAD! |
| 22:15.27 | strevi | abrotman: i have created the symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and created a test site and faced problems after a couple of requests. apache seems to crash and SSL seems to be COMPLETLY unavailable afterwards |
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| 22:15.51 | abrotman | strevi: the only machine i've used it on .. works fine .. do you need apache2 for a reason? |
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| 22:15.57 | Deep6 | I am getting a segfault when trying to run nwserver, has anyone else had this issue? |
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| 22:16.04 | abrotman | strevi: is this etch/sid ? |
| 22:16.06 | dererk | Hi! Greetings to everyone! |
| 22:16.09 | strevi | sarge |
| 22:16.19 | sussudio | ... |
| 22:16.24 | prott3r | mhh |
| 22:16.25 | strevi | well the other package requires apache2-mpm-prefork... |
| 22:16.32 | abrotman | strevi: what other package? |
| 22:16.35 | strevi | vhcs |
| 22:16.35 | prott3r | i don't find help in italian channel :( |
| 22:17.18 | strevi | (not officially in the archive yet) |
| 22:17.18 | greycat | then ask here, in english. |
| 22:17.18 | ke6isf | Is stevens-tech down or something? |
| 22:17.19 | thecoolestcow | hey, i've got KDE running and i want to install the Native Window Decoration "Crystal". can i download the source and compile it (will that work?), or must i search for a debian package? |
| 22:17.19 | sussudio | !tasso prott3r |
| 22:17.19 | dpkg | prott3r: tasso tasso tasso tasso fungo fungo serpente oooh serpenteeee! |
| 22:17.19 | dererk | Have anyone experiment problems with the dist-upgrade of Etch??? |
| 22:17.19 | prott3r | ? |
| 22:17.19 | strevi | it's just a set of php scripts (web frontend) |
| 22:17.19 | ke6isf | Never mind, it finally went. |
| 22:17.20 | abrotman | strevi: did you have problems before you went to apache2-mpm ? |
| 22:17.20 | abrotman | err -prefork |
| 22:17.26 | strevi | well it works fine WITHOUT ssl |
| 22:17.33 | gozz | what kernel is standerd in debian? |
| 22:17.40 | strevi | but when enabling the ssl stuff it crashed after a couple of requests |
| 22:17.43 | prott3r | 2.6.8 ? |
| 22:17.45 | dererk | More exactly, with the package upgraded "Udev"? |
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| 22:18.00 | abrotman | strevi: but it's not mod_ssl |
| 22:18.06 | ke6isf | sussudio: You are wiser than I, sir. =^^= |
| 22:18.10 | abrotman | strevi: it's part of the apache2 packages |
| 22:18.14 | strevi | what is a bit strange is that https:// is not possible afterwards but http:// is |
| 22:18.27 | greycat | dererk: you probably need linux-image-2.6.12-* |
| 22:18.52 | strevi | okay then its not mod_ssl but the ssl plugin or whatever it is called ;) |
| 22:18.52 | dererk | greycat, But it's a requierement? |
| 22:18.55 | thecoolestcow | i would like to install the window decoration named "crystal", am i able to simply compile the source or do i have to look for a debian package for it? |
| 22:19.04 | abrotman | i dn't even remember explicitly enabling ssl .. i just setup the directives |
| 22:19.15 | abrotman | strevi: check the BTS |
| 22:19.25 | strevi | do you use apache 1 or 2? |
| 22:19.28 | prott3r | i try to talk english :P |
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| 22:19.37 | prott3r | google translator rulez :P |
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| 22:20.15 | ke6isf | !z |
| 22:20.16 | dpkg | z is probably (in grapics programming al least) the 3rd dimension, used in such terms as z-buffering. And a formal specification notation based on settheory and first order predicate logic. the last letter of the alphabet |
| 22:20.59 | beardy | gozz: In stable for x86, 2.4.27 or 2.6.8-2 or 2.6.8-11 for amd64 it seems. |
| 22:21.27 | ke6isf | hmm, looks like a bunch of kde updates today. |
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| 22:21.53 | gozz | what would be somthing equivalent to NERO for linux? |
| 22:22.00 | fbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.01 | greycat | k3b |
| 22:22.01 | prott3r | k3b |
| 22:22.04 | prott3r | :) |
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| 22:22.17 | malicia | Hi people. I want to boot via NFS - and I have compiled a kernel to do so. Now the thing is about mkinitrd to get the NFS mounted. And there's where I chash I have searched for a while and it's kinda hard to find info on it. I don't know what files to edit ( and howto :p )(BAKA--NFS is TRiCkY!!) Can someone Help me? |
| 22:22.18 | abrotman | gnomebaker! |
| 22:22.34 | krassy1809 | hi all |
| 22:22.40 | thecoolestcow | i just downloaded a .deb file, how do i install it? |
| 22:22.45 | strevi | gnomebaker sounds cute ;) |
| 22:22.56 | nkuttler | thecoolestcow: which one? |
| 22:22.58 | strevi | thecoolestcow: dpkg -i <filename> |
| 22:23.03 | beardy | thecoolestcow: Why aren't you using apt-get, aptitude or synaptic? |
| 22:23.05 | streuner | hm |
| 22:23.06 | greycat | malicia: man 5 exports |
| 22:23.15 | greycat | malicia: make sure portmap is running on both sides |
| 22:23.17 | badcoder | i cannot get get mysql php4 working Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() and i did apt-get php4-mysql |
| 22:23.29 | krassy1809 | help pls |
| 22:23.39 | beardy | !tell krassy1809 about ask |
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| 22:23.44 | strevi | badcoder: mysql-server-4.1 ? |
| 22:23.46 | strevi | or 4.0 ? |
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| 22:24.05 | prott3r | i have installed debian etch on my intel-notebook but i have problems with wireless and the energetic saving (sorry for my english!!!) |
| 22:24.13 | krassy1809 | How i applay patch i have .diff file |
| 22:24.21 | thecoolestcow | beardy: it's a window decoration off kde-look.org |
| 22:24.30 | malicia | greycat: So ... this is where the machine boots and asks for module loads and Nics and NFS-server adrresses right? what should I look for in exports? |
| 22:24.32 | greycat | krassy1809: man patch |
| 22:24.41 | greycat | malicia: I can't help you with *booting* over it. |
| 22:24.45 | strevi | krassy1809: probably: patch -p0 < <filename> |
| 22:25.00 | abrotman | badcoder: did you uncomment the extension in the php.ini ? |
| 22:25.05 | malicia | greycat: no prob :p |
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| 22:25.17 | strevi | abrotman: uncomment? I never did that ;) |
| 22:25.25 | prott3r | someone can help me? |
| 22:25.34 | abrotman | strevi: some people don't need it done .. some do .. don't ask me the difference .. but it's happened before |
| 22:25.47 | strevi | oh that's really strange |
| 22:25.48 | krassy1809 | but i don't have directory linux in /usr/src/ |
| 22:25.49 | streuner | prott3r: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 22:25.51 | beardy | thecoolestcow: 'man dpkg' 'info dpkg' dpkg --install or -i |
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| 22:25.59 | strevi | krassy1809: you are missing the kernel sources |
| 22:26.02 | thecoolestcow | beardy: yeah, i did dpgk -i |
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| 22:26.26 | krassy1809 | how i get the kernel sources |
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| 22:26.37 | strevi | krassy1809: what are you trying to do ? |
| 22:26.42 | greycat | krassy1809: you don't really want them. |
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| 22:26.52 | dererk | greycat, But it's a requierement, to have udev with new updates? |
| 22:26.56 | strevi | probably headers are enough |
| 22:26.56 | abrotman | what the hell is that ? |
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| 22:27.13 | greycat | dererk: I do not use udev. I do not use GNOME. I do not use Linux2.6. |
| 22:27.15 | abrotman | he didn't even talk |
| 22:27.29 | strevi | heh, I have to use Linux 2.6 |
| 22:27.36 | dererk | greycat, You dont use Debian? :P |
| 22:27.43 | thecoolestcow | crap, i just xkilled the taskbar (heheh...), what's the command to restart it... |
| 22:27.51 | greycat | dererk: I gave you a hint. I even thought it was a *good* one. |
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| 22:27.55 | saturne | hi |
| 22:27.58 | thecoolestcow | yo |
| 22:28.13 | abrotman | dererk: just because he doens't use 2.6 doesn't mean he doesn't use Debian ... sarge has a 2.4 kernel that works just fine |
| 22:28.25 | azeem | or he could use Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 22:28.32 | abrotman | mmm .. spinach and artichoke dip ... |
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| 22:28.40 | strevi | dererk: my sata controller doesnt work with 2.4 |
| 22:28.46 | strevi | ahm abrotman I meant |
| 22:28.47 | saturne | it is possible, with sftp or ssh, to accept without confirmation, the key (as an option -f)? |
| 22:28.48 | strevi | :P |
| 22:28.52 | gozz | is k3b included ? |
| 22:28.54 | mwilson | You were doing fine until you mentioned the "a" word. |
| 22:28.58 | abrotman | strevi: yes .. well .. that happens |
| 22:29.13 | beardy | gozz: In Debian? Yes it is. /msg dpkg search |
| 22:29.14 | strevi | latest 2.4.x works though |
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| 22:29.23 | dererk | abrotman, Heyyy, it was a joke man, didn't you see the ":P" ? 8) |
| 22:29.23 | strevi | but debootstrapping is ... well ... not fun ;) |
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| 22:29.45 | khanman | i did '/msg dpkg madwifi-install' and was given a repository to add to my /etc/apt/sources.list ...however they seem to only be for woody and sarge..im running etch....if i add the sarge repo and try and install it ..will it break my system ? |
| 22:30.00 | abrotman | dererk: don't joke with me ... i'll kick your butt!!! :) |
| 22:30.13 | strevi | khanman: you shouldn't mix releases |
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| 22:30.25 | dererk | greycat, Ein? |
| 22:30.36 | dererk | abrotman, Ein? |
| 22:30.45 | khanman | i know you shouldnt..but i really hate to have to reinstall....unless i must...thats what im asking....do i have to? |
| 22:30.48 | strevi | khanman: what dependencies does it have ? |
| 22:30.57 | krassy1809 | how i get the the kernel sources ? |
| 22:31.03 | strevi | krassy1809: apt-get |
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| 22:31.13 | krassy1809 | and then |
| 22:31.18 | dererk | greycat, Well, I don't use gnome either, so I'm going to look why is udev so important |
| 22:31.24 | pepsi__ | whats that program called that generates a sources.list for ya |
| 22:31.27 | pepsi__ | ?? |
| 22:31.28 | dererk | greycat, Thanks man |
| 22:31.32 | strevi | pepsi__: apt-setup |
| 22:31.40 | greycat | strevi: hmm, interesting. maybe if we just answer his questions *literally* for a day or two he'll eventually come to understand why they were the wrong questions. I hope you have the patience for it. |
| 22:31.44 | khanman | strevi, dunno just says i have to install module-assistant and the kernel-headers for my system |
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| 22:31.53 | abrotman | right |
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| 22:32.13 | khanman | i havent add the source to my sources.list yet..guess ill do that and check the depends |
| 22:32.21 | strevi | greycat: i am not here everyday so ;) |
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| 22:32.33 | strevi | and changing a nickname is as easy as nothing else :-D |
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| 22:33.06 | pepsi__ | strevi: thx! |
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| 22:33.38 | green_earz | krassy1809: uname -a then aptitude search to track down the source then aptitude install package-name |
| 22:34.00 | strevi | aptitude? I purged that package ;) |
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| 22:35.33 | strevi | I wonder why exim is the default MTA which ships with debian, I dont know anybody running exim ... all ppl seem to like postfix |
| 22:35.48 | greycat | exim was chosen over sendmail before postfix existed. |
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| 22:35.59 | strevi | well sendmail is another story |
| 22:35.59 | strevi | ;) |
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| 22:36.27 | strevi | hmm there is a "Debian Core Consortium" ... and those choose postfix ;) |
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| 22:37.06 | strevi | exim makes the system startup hang if no network cable is attached |
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| 22:37.15 | greycat | so use postfix. |
| 22:37.18 | strevi | I do |
| 22:37.24 | strevi | but for first startup ... |
| 22:37.45 | greycat | well, you have a network attached on the first startup, because you're installing. |
| 22:37.57 | khanman | strevi, seems the source depends only on sharutils and make...albeit the version from sarge |
| 22:37.58 | greycat | and you didn't buy crazy whacked shit like wifi. |
| 22:37.58 | strevi | but sometimes it laggs even then |
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| 22:38.09 | strevi | no wifi |
| 22:38.15 | strevi | onboard nic |
| 22:38.18 | greycat | and nforce motherboards. |
| 22:38.23 | strevi | 3com gigabit one |
| 22:38.25 | greycat | and broadcom. |
| 22:38.32 | strevi | heh |
| 22:38.38 | strevi | no broadcom shit ;) |
| 22:38.40 | asuffield | strevi: you've got dns checks turned on |
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| 22:39.03 | streuner | strevi: /etc/hosts |
| 22:39.09 | strevi | asuffield: well i have not even HAD a chance to touch the configuration prior first startup (besides checking the 2nd console and adjusting it) |
| 22:39.16 | greycat | exim reads hosts(5)?? |
| 22:39.17 | gozz | i cant find it anywhere under debian-apps |
| 22:39.29 | greycat | gozz: what, k3b? |
| 22:39.35 | greycat | !info k3b sarge |
| 22:39.36 | asuffield | I'm pretty sure the installer even asks you if you want to, warning you that having them turned on would cause the system to hang if the network isn't connected |
| 22:39.39 | strevi | i dont care since on first startup package is purged after postfix install ;) |
| 22:39.39 | dpkg | k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.20-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2231 kB, Installed size: 4740 kB |
| 22:39.40 | streuner | greycat: comes to mind with NFS |
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| 22:40.01 | strevi | asuffield: at which debconf priority level ? |
| 22:40.10 | asuffield | don't remember that |
| 22:40.18 | strevi | well at default level it doesnt |
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| 22:41.03 | strevi | god damn this apache2 ssl prob is driving me nuts |
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| 22:41.38 | strevi | is there a specific log directive for ssl which is not documented? |
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| 22:42.28 | gozz | im a dumb a$$ i put apt-get install kb3 :) |
| 22:42.29 | streuner | strevi: did you ask #apache? |
| 22:42.33 | stew | strevi: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 22:42.45 | stew | oh ssh |
| 22:42.49 | stew | err ssl not ssh |
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| 22:43.14 | strevi | streuner: not yet |
| 22:43.16 | timday | Argh. Trying to install linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 and new udev, but udev install complains if 2.6.12 isn't running yet and stops the grub menu getting updated. Any simple solution ? |
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| 22:43.45 | greycat | install the kernel, reboot. |
| 22:43.49 | liable | timday: just install the 2.6.12 kernel |
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| 22:44.28 | strevi | let's see if they can help :D |
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| 22:45.16 | oc | I get a bunch of nested exception is javax.mail.MessagingException: Unknown SMTP host: localhost && UnknownHostExceptions: localhost.. anybody know of a quickfix? |
| 22:45.25 | timday | liable: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-k7 complains of unmet dependencies (hal depending on udev>0.063 but 0.056-3 is to be installed) |
| 22:45.43 | oc | I have added 127.0.0.1 localhost on top of /etc/hosts |
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| 22:46.13 | greycat | !pal linux2.6 and udev |
| 22:46.35 | ma3x | how can i burn ape/cue files? |
| 22:46.48 | stew | ma3x: cdrdao |
| 22:47.11 | greycat | you probably need something that can decode APE to PCM audio |
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| 22:47.42 | ma3x | stew, for DVD too? |
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| 22:48.09 | stew | ma3x: actually it looks like ape isn't what i thought it was, so nm |
| 22:48.29 | ma3x | stew, so how? |
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| 22:48.47 | timday | Heck, this is the only system here with udev... I've no idea why it got on there. Can I just remove it and all the normal /dev entries will somehow get created ?? |
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| 22:48.51 | stew | ma3x: i dunno |
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| 22:49.02 | liu7 | just wondered if I could somehow get a package for /lib/modules/make |
| 22:49.03 | ma3x | stew, find out and tell me! |
| 22:49.05 | liu7 | or something similar |
| 22:49.06 | greycat | if you don't want it, by all means, purge it. |
| 22:49.07 | ma3x | haha :) |
| 22:49.08 | ma3x | just kiddin |
| 22:49.10 | ma3x | keep cool |
| 22:49.14 | liu7 | i wanted to compile a module, but it wanted that directory |
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| 22:49.29 | ma3x | hey have you guys tried Mac? |
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| 22:49.43 | stew | timday: most people that have hal/udev and dont know why, its uaully becuase of gnome / gnome-volume-manager |
| 22:49.50 | greycat | ma3x: no, I tried Hank, and he was a hunk-a-burnin-love |
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| 22:50.01 | ma3x | greycat, wtf is that? |
| 22:50.22 | greycat | ma3x: I heard Bubba is really handsome, too |
| 22:50.46 | timday | stew: seems gnome-volume-manager can use magicdev instead (which is what I see on my other gnome machines) |
| 22:50.47 | ma3x | greycat, I pumped all of them! |
| 22:50.47 | oc | anybody know of unknown host localhost exceptions on Debian? i have set up bind9 to resolve localhost, ive set it in /etc/hosts.. nothing seem to help.. |
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| 22:51.18 | greycat | oc: if "ping localhost" works, then it's a java problem. |
| 22:51.22 | stew | !conflicts gnome-volume-manager |
| 22:51.24 | dpkg | gnome-volume-manager: magicdev |
| 22:51.38 | oc | greycat: sure does... how can i correct the java problem? |
| 22:51.40 | stew | timday: it seems not |
| 22:51.48 | greycat | ask #java? |
| 22:51.50 | liu7 | can't you just use that 127.0.0.1 ip |
| 22:51.52 | liu7 | or whatever |
| 22:51.59 | liu7 | instead of trying to resolve it |
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| 22:52.18 | oc | liu7: can do.. but that involves me refactoring a huge amount of code |
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| 22:52.27 | oc | would be easier to fix the problem :) |
| 22:53.09 | oc | *bash programmers for not using properties/xml* |
| 22:53.17 | liu7 | it's looking for /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/build |
| 22:53.29 | greycat | liu7: and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) didn't provide it? |
| 22:53.31 | liu7 | any idea if there's a package for that kernel |
| 22:53.49 | argand | hi!, how can i check if my kernel supports framebuffer? if it is frame buffer enabled? (i use sarge, kernel is 2.6.11-1-686) |
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| 22:54.08 | liu7 | ahh |
| 22:54.12 | liu7 | I just got the kernel src package |
| 22:54.15 | liu7 | thanks greycat |
| 22:54.27 | gozz | k3b dosent supprot all the files so is their a debian codec package? |
| 22:54.33 | liu7 | im amazed at sid |
| 22:54.40 | liu7 | I haven't run linux in a while |
| 22:54.40 | gozz | doesnt |
| 22:54.46 | greycat | !ape |
| 22:54.46 | liu7 | man, linux kicks ass on old machines |
| 22:54.46 | dpkg | well, ape is see http://monkeysaudio.com - an inefficient and non-free lossless audio compression scheme which seems like it really was written by a monkey, and was developed on and for windows (and it shows). Sid debs are available from <rarewares>, but since there's only a decoder, not a player, it's basically only useful for decoding and re-encoding as flac. Did I mention how shit this is yet? |
| 22:54.50 | liu7 | compared to win2k |
| 22:54.52 | timday | stew: apt-get remove udev hal gnome-volume-manager magicdev+ seems to keep apt happy (ie it doesn't want to get rid of gnome completely) |
| 22:55.01 | stew | argand: 2.6.11-1 does support frame buffer, but it is not in sarge. you could verify that it does support frambuffer but looking in /boot/config-2.6.11-1-686 |
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| 22:56.43 | argand | stew: thank u, kernel is not the default one yes, thanks a lot |
| 22:56.54 | stew | timday: right, it probably removed the gnome-desktop-environment which is just a virtual package anyway |
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| 22:57.36 | ma3x | can i install suse or slackware packages? |
| 22:58.08 | streuner | why do you think you need those packages at all? |
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| 22:58.19 | ma3x | because there is a monkey audio plugin for k3b |
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| 22:59.08 | ma3x | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 22:59.10 | ma3x | what's that error? |
| 22:59.13 | streuner | there is surely a deb as well |
| 22:59.18 | greycat | !faq ma3x |
| 22:59.19 | dpkg | ma3x: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 22:59.55 | ma3x | greycat, I didn't see anything about X includes? |
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| 23:00.02 | ma3x | maybe that's just one alias? |
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| 23:00.08 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.09 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.31 | ma3x | thanks |
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| 23:02.55 | ma3x | checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 23:03.34 | streuner | ma3x: ./configure --help |
| 23:03.43 | ma3x | libqt3-headers ? |
| 23:03.58 | streuner | ma3x: if you have those libs installed its easy |
| 23:04.15 | streuner | you just use configure to give the path as well |
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| 23:04.38 | streuner | often it just find those libs... |
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| 23:04.47 | streuner | doesn't |
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| 23:05.22 | bonez39 | what do the characters mean at the far left, when running dpkg -l packagename? some have 'ii' while others show 'rc'? |
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| 23:05.25 | ma3x | what package is for the qt libraries? |
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| 23:05.41 | streuner | uhm, there are several |
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| 23:05.55 | streuner | depends on the app, look at the install or README file |
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| 23:06.35 | streuner | bonez39: man dpkg, 'ii' = installed for example |
| 23:07.26 | ma3x | checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support! |
| 23:07.30 | fbi | ma3x: apt-cache search libqt3 |
| 23:07.42 | ma3x | fbi i got it already. it's installed. |
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| 23:07.53 | fbi | you will probably need to set the QTDIR environment variable too for ./configure to see it |
| 23:07.58 | streuner | ma3x: sounds like libqt3-mt-dev or such |
| 23:08.18 | ma3x | i'll try that too |
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| 23:09.09 | gozz | what is ARK? |
| 23:09.18 | ma3x | !ark |
| 23:09.25 | ma3x | archiver I guess |
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| 23:09.59 | JoshR | Anyone want to help a newbie? I've looked through all the documentation I could find on the Debian website... After installing from the minimal CD, and after creating a user account, and getting my internet connection working, how do I continue with the install or load a desktop environment? (If there's a URL you could refer me to, I'd appreciate it.) |
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| 23:10.31 | streuner | JoshR: read /msg dpkg wm |
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| 23:10.39 | streuner | JoshR: /msg dpkg xsession |
| 23:10.54 | ma3x | checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix! |
| 23:11.02 | ma3x | now what package is that ? |
| 23:11.06 | streuner | JoshR: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 23:11.13 | ma3x | libktnef1-dev ? |
| 23:11.19 | JoshR | Thank you all. |
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| 23:12.17 | streuner | ma3x: dpkg -L <package> to see where the libs are installed, ./configure --lib or such to tell configure where they are |
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| 23:13.25 | ma3x | streuner, dpkg -L kde or what? |
| 23:13.41 | streuner | ma3x: no, libqt3-mt-dev or such |
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| 23:13.50 | green_earz | JoshR: if you problem with seting up the xserver the command to reconfigure it is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree > also bookmark the link its a very handy debian doc > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html |
| 23:13.51 | streuner | depends what lib you need |
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| 23:14.20 | streuner | ma3x: dpkg -l | grep libqt |
| 23:14.21 | green_earz | JoshR: sorry dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:14.24 | ma3x | streuner, I already installed that . Now it wants KDE libs |
| 23:14.43 | ma3x | streuner, I mean KDE headers |
| 23:14.46 | streuner | ma3x: libqt's are KDE libs |
| 23:15.01 | streuner | ma3x: and headers are usually in -dev packages... |
| 23:15.38 | ma3x | streuner, so i have installed this libqt3-mt-dev |
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| 23:15.58 | streuner | yes, but ./configure didn't find it ... |
| 23:16.12 | streuner | so just tell configure where it should look for |
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| 23:16.51 | fbi | ma3x: i told you. edit ~/.bash_profile or /etc/profile and set the QTDIR environment variable |
| 23:17.02 | fbi | you won't need to use any option with ./configure |
| 23:17.26 | ma3x | fbi when did you tell me? |
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| 23:18.21 | ma3x | I specified the extra option, but still fails |
| 23:18.27 | ma3x | I get the same error |
| 23:18.40 | ma3x | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix! |
| 23:18.47 | ma3x | --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/ |
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| 23:19.04 | fbi | ma3x: that is not where they are. |
| 23:19.29 | fbi | try putting these two lines in ~/.bash_profile |
| 23:19.36 | fbi | export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 |
| 23:19.37 | fbi | export PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH |
| 23:19.41 | fbi | log out, and log back in |
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| 23:20.39 | ma3x | okay |
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| 23:20.43 | ma3x | anyway bash rulez |
| 23:20.52 | ma3x | i can't figure out why those freebsd losers use /bin/sh |
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| 23:21.32 | streuner | usr/include/qt3/qconfig.h |
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| 23:21.45 | streuner | NOT /usr/lib |
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| 23:21.57 | ma3x | streuner, fbi said /usr/share/qt3 |
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| 23:22.02 | neiljp | does anyone know the current status of udf support in debian? there doesn't seem to have been much work recently, from the searches I've done, but most suggests that packet writing (which I assume means ability to mount and write files like a hard disk) requires an extra patch - if the links actually work :| |
| 23:22.04 | ma3x | so which one is it from those 2? |
| 23:22.08 | streuner | so the correct path would be /usr/include/qt3 |
| 23:22.09 | ma3x | I guess streuner's |
| 23:22.29 | streuner | both are correct |
| 23:22.30 | fbi | ma3x: export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 worked for the app i compiled, you might need something different |
| 23:22.50 | ma3x | ok |
| 23:22.51 | ma3x | headers |
| 23:22.51 | fbi | i was just making a suggestion, i don't even know what you are compiling. |
| 23:22.56 | ma3x | what exactly does that mean? |
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| 23:23.22 | ma3x | is it includes or libraries? |
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| 23:23.45 | strevi | anybody knows the status of samba 3.2 in etch/sid ? |
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| 23:23.48 | ma3x | let's see if streuner's right |
| 23:23.53 | ke6isf | !anybody |
| 23:23.54 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 23:23.59 | strevi | lol |
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| 23:24.38 | ma3x | that failed too ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 |
| 23:24.46 | ma3x | oh shit |
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| 23:24.57 | ma3x | wasted 40 mins for one dumb plugin |
| 23:25.00 | ma3x | and didn't get it working |
| 23:25.13 | nkuttler | strevi: apt-get install apt-listbugs |
| 23:25.20 | liable | !comfort ma3x |
| 23:25.21 | dpkg | There, there, ma3x. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 23:26.06 | ma3x | i don't trust you |
| 23:26.08 | petersen | hi, can somebody tell mi the command for installing xfree86? |
| 23:26.11 | ma3x | heh |
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| 23:26.18 | ma3x | you're not here for me |
| 23:26.21 | ke6isf | petersen: Who is mi? |
| 23:26.21 | maher | ma3x: what are youtrying to compile? |
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| 23:26.40 | petersen | i ment "me" |
| 23:26.45 | ke6isf | petersen: Ah, ok. |
| 23:26.59 | ke6isf | !tell petersen -about install x |
| 23:27.04 | ma3x | maher, k3bmonkeyaudioplugin-2.0 |
| 23:27.06 | streuner | he is trying to compile an xmms plugin which could use ape |
| 23:27.21 | theccsscontact | againsttcpa.com for all those that wana ask me what it is plz just read it, im off to post more about it else where |
| 23:27.23 | streuner | bah |
| 23:27.30 | ma3x | nope, xmms would have been much easier |
| 23:27.35 | ma3x | i'm dealing with k3b here |
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| 23:27.53 | ke6isf | !ops theccsscontact is spamming the channel |
| 23:27.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: theccsscontact is spamming the channel |
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| 23:28.28 | maher | ma3x: k3b writes cds - why does it need a plugin? |
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| 23:28.30 | theccsscontact | ke6isf with all seriosnes f u |
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| 23:28.36 | theccsscontact | read the damn thing |
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| 23:28.45 | ke6isf | !beer helix |
| 23:28.45 | helix | ew, auto-rejoin |
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| 23:29.09 | streuner | http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable/k3b-plugin-monkeysaudio_1.0-4_i386.deb |
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| 23:29.36 | ke6isf | Yep. It's Sunday. |
| 23:29.38 | streuner | ma3x: that's for unstable |
| 23:29.41 | ma3x | hey streuner you're a genius!! |
| 23:29.50 | ma3x | did you just google it? |
| 23:29.51 | matu | Hy |
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| 23:30.02 | ExitMenu | hi I have just downloaded and burnt all 14 cds of sarge. Are there any thing else that would be good to have. |
| 23:30.10 | streuner | ma3x: well, you need to make a deb for stable then |
| 23:30.15 | ExitMenu | *replace are with is please |
| 23:30.19 | compguymac | no ones talking in #debianppc, anyone to help with a ibook problem with debian installed on it? |
| 23:30.33 | compguymac | cant get the laptop to go to sleep when i close the lid |
| 23:30.43 | ke6isf | ExitMenu: Are you on a broadband connection by any chance? |
| 23:30.51 | ExitMenu | yeh just a bit |
| 23:31.01 | ke6isf | !tell ExitMenu -about netinst |
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| 23:32.22 | ExitMenu | Problem is the machine I am installing it on does not have a good net connection so I was hoping to gather all things in advanced |
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| 23:32.45 | liable | ExitMenu: the 14 should be more than enough. |
| 23:32.48 | HAMM3R | I had to put a line into "acpi=off" into grub in order ofr my server to boot. Otherwise, it will come up with a wierd USB error then freeze. This used to work. But starting today, I added "acpi=off" and it still wouldnt boot. I tried everything i could think of, but it still froze on a usb error. What do I need to do now? |
| 23:33.00 | ExitMenu | ok do they have the nvidia packages on them |
| 23:33.02 | maher | ExitMenu: you have everything you need if you can boot the machine off a cd - probably a lot more than you need |
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| 23:34.02 | streuner | ma3x: the interesting part is _IN_ the deb itself, "control" file tell you which libs you need... |
| 23:34.13 | ke6isf | ExitMenu: You'll need to do something else for nvidia. |
| 23:34.16 | ke6isf | !nvidia |
| 23:34.16 | dpkg | methinks nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 23:34.34 | fbi | HAMM3R: what happens if you disable ACPI in the BIOS |
| 23:34.49 | HAMM3R | I dont know how to do that. |
| 23:35.03 | petersen | hmm dont works like dpkg tells me |
| 23:35.05 | HAMM3R | I could look around in the settings for it |
| 23:35.12 | HAMM3R | What exactly is acpi ? |
| 23:35.15 | ma3x | streuner, I can't install it, too much dependency problems ( i.e not broken or packages) |
| 23:35.29 | fbi | Google might know. |
| 23:35.35 | ke6isf | petersen: What are the symptoms? |
| 23:35.44 | maher | HAMM3R: what did you change? |
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| 23:35.53 | streuner | ma3x: extract the deb via 'ar x' and look into control file |
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| 23:36.01 | streuner | ma3x: install those packages |
| 23:36.05 | HAMM3R | well the only thing i can think of is I uninstalled the xserver |
| 23:36.07 | HAMM3R | thats all |
| 23:36.08 | matu | Y have a problem, cause of a recent "dist-upgrade" y lost some functionalisy of my keyboard, such as accents, Ctrl + Alt + Fx to switch to a console, etc |
| 23:36.08 | ma3x | streuner, they are not installable |
| 23:36.16 | petersen | tells me that the pakage is a virual pakage, and its providet by xorg server |
| 23:36.18 | matu | somebody knows the reason? |
| 23:36.24 | ma3x | streuner, i.e. kdelibs4: Depends: libarts1 (>= 1.3.2) but it is not installable |
| 23:36.36 | streuner | ma3x: testing? |
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| 23:36.44 | ma3x | streuner, unst. |
| 23:36.45 | ke6isf | petersen: What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 23:36.57 | streuner | ma3x: so you running unstable? |
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| 23:37.11 | petersen | none, im running, äh, better i try to run ubuntu |
| 23:37.18 | ma3x | streuner, don't pall me, i'll ya? |
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| 23:37.33 | streuner | ma3x: pardon? |
| 23:37.47 | streuner | petersen: #ubuntu |
| 23:37.51 | WiFiTux | I have setup an email server. Everything works, but when i send an email the domain for the sender is the full domain name. i.e abonilla@debian.wifitux.com |
| 23:37.54 | petersen | k thx |
| 23:37.54 | ke6isf | petersen: #ubuntu is over there --> |
| 23:37.57 | ma3x | streuner, *!pal |
| 23:38.05 | streuner | oh |
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| 23:38.12 | WiFiTux | anyidea? |
| 23:38.24 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: You haven't told us what MTA you're running. |
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| 23:38.42 | ma3x | streuner, how do you use that ar x option, dpkg arx ? |
| 23:38.48 | streuner | ma3x: that's too compilicated then, just find something which convert it to wav then... |
| 23:38.53 | zapada | how long would a dvd-r last that's from pretty decent media? |
| 23:39.00 | streuner | ma3x: ar x foo.deb |
| 23:39.43 | streuner | ma3x: you could just use 'mc' |
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| 23:40.04 | zapada | MC Hammer |
| 23:40.04 | ma3x | streuner, midnight commander? |
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| 23:40.10 | streuner | yep |
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| 23:40.32 | ma3x | for what? |
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| 23:40.39 | ma3x | browsing the files? :p |
| 23:40.43 | streuner | to see contents of a deb |
| 23:40.44 | streuner | yes |
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| 23:40.58 | ma3x | streuner, there is just one file debian-binary |
| 23:41.12 | ma3x | oh data.tar.gz too |
| 23:41.13 | streuner | no, there is a control file as well |
| 23:41.32 | ma3x | ah right |
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| 23:41.39 | ma3x | i've got so many files, i got blind |
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| 23:42.17 | ma3x | streuner, so what about it now? I still can't install it |
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| 23:42.24 | ma3x | beacuse of the deps problems |
| 23:42.34 | streuner | !pal ma3x |
| 23:42.38 | ma3x | ah come o |
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| 23:42.52 | streuner | if you running unstable be prepared |
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| 23:43.10 | ma3x | there are like 6 packages which are not installable and depend on kdelibs4: |
| 23:43.16 | ma3x | well yeah |
| 23:43.25 | ma3x | i guess i'll have to wait another 3 months |
| 23:43.25 | streuner | so just convert them to wav |
| 23:43.34 | ma3x | but the other apps are working splendid too |
| 23:43.44 | ma3x | so what after, I'd be able to burn the cd with the cue file? |
| 23:44.10 | ma3x | streuner, with 'dd' ? |
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| 23:44.20 | streuner | no, cdrecord? |
| 23:45.07 | ma3x | that has too big docu |
| 23:45.23 | ma3x | probably gonna take me one and a half hour till i read it |
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| 23:46.00 | lenux_box | is there a apt get chat? |
| 23:46.01 | ma3x | streuner, is the ape not convertable to wav with dd// |
| 23:46.08 | ma3x | oh shit my keyboard |
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| 23:46.18 | streuner | *shrug* |
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| 23:46.35 | ma3x | *shrug* and shrink |
| 23:46.39 | streuner | lenux_box: if you running debian you are in the right channel |
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| 23:47.26 | ma3x | damn im too tired |
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| 23:47.29 | ma3x | bye |
| 23:47.33 | ma3x | couldn't make this shit workk |
| 23:47.35 | lenux_box | im running libranet but that channel is dead even tho i think its a good distro. |
| 23:47.40 | Goran_ | anyone using 64bit debian on amd64? |
| 23:47.41 | g8se | Hi everyone. I'm trying to write a script that'll install some debs. Is there a way of adding some pre-seeding before doing the install? |
| 23:47.42 | ExitMenu | I wish I could sleep |
| 23:47.48 | RvGaTe | helloooo people ! :) |
| 23:47.49 | Gnea | !tell Goran_ about amd64 |
| 23:47.49 | ExitMenu | I have been up since 10 and working all day |
| 23:47.53 | ma3x | ExitMenu, go sleep you idiot |
| 23:47.55 | ma3x | :p |
| 23:48.09 | RvGaTe | abrotman... and yet again, you are here... :P |
| 23:48.24 | ma3x | g8se, yes type a bunch of characters and finish with the # |
| 23:48.29 | ExitMenu | I cant I am at work |
| 23:48.32 | ma3x | :) |
| 23:48.34 | Goran_ | Gnea: didn't work |
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| 23:48.54 | ma3x | ExitMenu, quit the work |
| 23:48.55 | g8se | ma3x: huh? |
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| 23:48.57 | ExitMenu | Overseeing a new system going up and if its not working at 9am the shit hits the fan |
| 23:49.03 | Gnea | Goran_: not my problem. |
| 23:49.09 | ma3x | g8se, was just kiddin, not for real |
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| 23:49.26 | g8se | ma3x: Ah, should have paid closer attention to the smiley |
| 23:49.39 | lenux_box | has anyone else ever ran libranet and if they have whats there thought on it compared to debian being there kinda similiar.. |
| 23:49.46 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: well, I did that setup a long time ago. Which is the most common? ;-) |
| 23:49.50 | WiFiTux | postfix? |
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| 23:50.06 | ma3x | g8se, that's what it's saying when you boot freebsd for the first time. kinda stupid |
| 23:50.30 | steve44 | hello peoples |
| 23:50.51 | ma3x | peoples? |
| 23:50.57 | g8se | ma3x: yeah. I know the debian installer can be pre-seeded. But that's not what I want. |
| 23:50.59 | steve44 | persons? :) |
| 23:51.22 | Gnea | all of the morons are coming out of the woodwork here today |
| 23:51.22 | g8se | steve44: Or just 'hi everyone' |
| 23:51.23 | ma3x | g8se, good night dude, i really gotta sleep |
| 23:51.24 | ExitMenu | lo |
| 23:51.31 | g8se | ma3x: no worries! |
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| 23:51.38 | steve44 | that's to common |
| 23:51.59 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: ? |
| 23:52.02 | Goran_ | gnea: i get an error message "cant use #privmsg" |
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| 23:52.54 | g8se | steve44: How about, "Helloooo, all of you that are detestable an unscruitable. As for the rest, I mearly grunt in your direction" |
| 23:53.05 | maher | g8se: dpkg-repack |
| 23:53.20 | steve44 | g8se: cutting that one for later use, ty :D |
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| 23:53.31 | maher | g8se: unless you want to vary the chnages per installation or something... |
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| 23:54.25 | steve44 | g8se: thought I think I'd change it to 'I mearly fart in your general direction' per monty python |
| 23:54.42 | g8se | maher: Want to use standard debs though. In this case, want to set the base name in the libnss-ldap.conf file as it's installed. Doing it in a script, so would rather preseed it than have the user have to mistype it. |
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| 23:55.03 | maher | g8se: is it the same name for each install? |
| 23:55.04 | g8se | steve44: Always good to mix some of the 'classic' literature into our quotes. :) |
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| 23:55.29 | g8se | maher: Yes. Same script running each time, in same orgranisation, so same base name each time |
| 23:55.38 | maher | g8se: ok - use dpkg-repack then |
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| 23:55.58 | vulcanoid | i have a rsync qn. suppose i have /foo/bar.txt where /foo is a symlink; i want to rsync it to a remote machine but there i want /foo/bar.txt to be created as normal directory+file under say /datafiles (so in the end: /datafiles/foo/bar.txt). |
| 23:56.07 | vulcanoid | how do i do this? i tried -R --copy-links but that doesnt work |
| 23:56.19 | abrotman | RvGaTe: but not really |
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| 23:57.07 | vulcanoid | hi |
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| 23:57.20 | g8se | maher: Then I have to maintain the package then, somewhat. I guess if I dpkg-repack one version, an apt-update will upgrade it if needed. |
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| 23:57.33 | vulcanoid | can someone help me with a rsync problem |
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| 23:57.51 | liu7 | is .config part of the kernel package |
| 23:57.55 | liquidangle | anyone in the northwest US ? |
| 23:58.17 | maher | g8se: is the change in a conf file? conf files shouldn't get overwritten |
| 23:58.26 | g8se | maher: Just found dpkg-preconfigure(8) in debconf-doc. That looks like it will do what I want. |
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| 23:58.40 | g8se | maher: yes, change happens in a conf file |
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| 23:58.54 | sparr_ | what linux app might be able to extract .ACE archives newer than those supported by plain old unace? |
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| 23:59.11 | maher | vulcanoid: -av --copy-links worked for me - does the link oint outside the base dir for the rsync? |
| 23:59.19 | g8se | maher: I could just script to overwrite the conf file, but then the user still gets prompted by debconf, and it's probably going to be more brittle. |
| 23:59.21 | maher | vulcanoid: s/oint/point/ |
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| 23:59.39 | vulcanoid | but maher i need -R too because i need to create the /foo directory under the /datafiles remote directory |
| 23:59.56 | khanman | sparr_, have you tried unrar? i know the windows version can handle .ace |
