| 00:00.58 | dondelelcaro | CasaNova_: yes, it's called linux-image |
| 00:01.17 | CasaNova_ | well that would explain why I couldn't find it:-) |
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| 00:01.38 | CasaNova_ | why linux-image adn kernel-image packages? (or was name changed in etch?) |
| 00:01.41 | my-wife-is-18 | how do I set text console to be say 132x50 on boot up? |
| 00:01.58 | dondelelcaro | CasaNova_: because there are other kernels besides the linux ones |
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| 00:05.29 | CasaNova_ | SO all linux-images are kernels but not all kernel-images are linux ones...? |
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| 00:05.39 | CasaNova_ | Wow too much philosophy |
| 00:05.50 | s1d | dude, fuck off. |
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| 00:06.36 | relaxed | someone's unstable! |
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| 00:06.52 | CasaNova_ | I reckon my question was more what is the major difference between installing a linux-image-2.6.12-686 and a kernel-image-2.6.8-686, the descriptions don't give much detail... |
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| 00:08.24 | whitehorse1 | casanova udev+hal (they manage hardware, usb things more or less) in their new incarnations require a recent kernel version; newer than 2.6.8. For example. |
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| 00:09.54 | CasaNova_ | whitehorse1: thanks that helps... I am running 2.6.8 but the testing udev definetly wants 2.6.12, OK I got it and will try again after reboot. |
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| 00:10.29 | linuxgeekery | Is anyone here useing E17 as their WM? |
| 00:10.39 | dondelelcaro | !tell linuxgeekery -about ask |
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| 00:10.54 | whitehorse1 | Casanova: Mm, exactly what I had to do recently, when grub reboots it shows both versions and I've used the most recent since. I'll remove the older one when I get around to it now it's no longer needed |
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| 00:11.23 | linuxgeekery | E17 is really great, in my opinion. |
| 00:11.54 | CasaNova_ | whitehorse1: Yeah 2.6.8 was the only one I could get vmware kernel modules to compile on , it was compiled with 3.3.5 and the gcc versiion installed was 3.3.6 - close enough for the compile, is 2.6.12 compiled with 4.0 gcc? |
| 00:12.17 | sedeki | i wanna demolish my computer |
| 00:12.21 | sedeki | and kill myself |
| 00:12.33 | stew | sedeki: send it to me, i'll demolish it for you, i promise |
| 00:12.44 | stew | CasaNova_: yes 4.0.2 |
| 00:12.50 | linuxgeekery | CasaNova_: I've had the VMware compile problem too. For some strange reason, it doesn't think I have kernel source even if I point it to the right directory. |
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| 00:13.21 | CasaNova_ | stew: Excellent: 3.6.11 was compiled with a 3gcc and I had 4.0 gcc installed. causing all kinds of gried. |
| 00:13.31 | honschu | How to set the harddrive automatically to sleep or standby if it isn't used for 10minutes? |
| 00:13.47 | CasaNova_ | linuxgeekery: I think I jsut had to grab kernel-headers (I guess it will be linux-headers now) |
| 00:13.50 | Guerin | honschu: man hdparm |
| 00:13.51 | linuxgeekery | Really. VMware needs to work on their kernel mods |
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| 00:14.08 | ivan` | is the unstable branch usable right now? |
| 00:14.09 | linuxgeekery | d |
| 00:14.14 | ivan` | for experimental purposes |
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| 00:14.26 | abrotman | ivan`: define usable :) |
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| 00:14.32 | dondelelcaro | ivan`: it's always usable. The question is, can *you* use it? |
| 00:14.34 | stew | abrotman: go sox |
| 00:14.35 | Guerin | ivan`: it's always usable, if you don't mind things breaking horribly at random intervals |
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| 00:14.46 | abrotman | stew: it will be tied after tonight :) |
| 00:14.49 | ivan` | breaking horribly is OK inside vmware |
| 00:14.54 | g0rd0n | how can i write zeroes to a whole hard disk? |
| 00:14.58 | abrotman | dd |
| 00:15.16 | abrotman | stew: well . if they win |
| 00:15.25 | ivan` | i'm going to have it auto-update every hour and watch it die |
| 00:15.26 | Guerin | g0rd0n: dd if=/dev/zer0 of=/dev/hdx bs=10M |
| 00:15.40 | dondelelcaro | ivan`: uh, that's pointless. Unstable only changes once every 24 hours. |
| 00:15.45 | ivan` | well, 24 hours then |
| 00:16.07 | wireddd | chances are it will only take one update... |
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| 00:16.13 | linuxgeekery | g0rd0n, there is software that will do that, but if you want the easy way, boot from a OS that doesn't use that partition and type dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdxx |
| 00:16.14 | whitehorse1 | CasaNova_: When you eventually want to remove the old kernel once safely using the newer kernel, the details in the Debian Reference documentation may be useful [http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-removeoldkernel |
| 00:16.40 | linuxgeekery | g0rdon: where the first x is which hd and the second is the partition num. |
| 00:16.51 | CasaNova_ | whitehorse1: Oh I always thought it was just apt-get remove or purge.... |
| 00:16.56 | ivan` | can the netinstaller from http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ install unstable? |
| 00:17.02 | linuxgeekery | !google netinstaller |
| 00:17.04 | relaxed | ivan`: yes |
| 00:17.07 | dpkg | Google says netinstaller is at http://www.netinstaller.com/ or http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/netinstaller.html or http://freshmeat.net/projects/ni/ or http://noc.postnuke.com/projects/pnni/ or http://noc.postnuke.com/forum/forum.php?forum_id=326 |
| 00:17.23 | ivan` | thanks |
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| 00:17.28 | linuxgeekery | lol |
| 00:17.37 | abrotman | !d-i ivan` |
| 00:17.38 | dpkg | ivan`, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:17.50 | whitehorse1 | CasaNova_: Me too. Then I saw that though and I assume it's more likely to be accurate and fact-checked by virtue of it's officialness |
| 00:18.09 | whitehorse1 | CasaNova_: Don't think there's any harm caused by the other way tho |
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| 00:18.47 | MegaByte | dondelelcaro, http://rafb.net/paste/results/ncLWHN88.html |
| 00:18.51 | MegaByte | there it is |
| 00:19.00 | Vantage__ | how can i track down a high load average? top doesn't seem to show anything using a lot of CPU... |
| 00:19.22 | MegaByte | I couldn't change the language to English, so I'm sorry |
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| 00:19.42 | abrotman | MegaByte: you're using kurumin ? |
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| 00:20.20 | MegaByte | abrotman, bingo! |
| 00:20.39 | abrotman | MegaByte: then why are you asking us for help? |
| 00:20.42 | abrotman | !kurumin |
| 00:20.43 | dpkg | Kurumin Linux is a Brazilian run-from-CD Linux distribution based on Knoppix. That means it's not debian. Go away.. Ajuda pra Kurumin: http://www.kurumin.com.br |
| 00:20.43 | MegaByte | abrotman, Well, not actually me. A friend of mine is. |
| 00:20.55 | MegaByte | abrotman, Kurumin is Debian-based. |
| 00:20.55 | Vantage__ | top shows CPU use fluctuating between 1 and 7% but load average is constantly over 4... |
| 00:20.57 | abrotman | it's not debian .. we have no idea how to fix it . or why it'd be broken |
| 00:21.01 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 00:21.02 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
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| 00:21.24 | MegaByte | abrotman, but you can tell me an apt command to purge the dependencies |
| 00:21.26 | abrotman | lots of things are based on debian .. we still don't support them here |
| 00:21.31 | MegaByte | can't you? |
| 00:21.31 | dondelelcaro | MegaByte: there isn't such a thing |
| 00:21.40 | dondelelcaro | MegaByte: you fix the dependencies, you don't purge them. |
| 00:21.49 | dondelelcaro | (whatever "purging" them means) |
| 00:22.01 | MegaByte | dondelelcaro, how am I supposed to fix them quickly? |
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| 00:24.39 | ke6isf | MegaByte: It is the job of apt to deal with dependencies. |
| 00:25.19 | albertino_ | I downloaded a gdm package intel i385 what's the command i should right in order to install in on linux debian? |
| 00:25.55 | ke6isf | MegaByte: That said, if you want it to work correctly, you can always just download Debian. |
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| 00:27.36 | dondelelcaro | MegaByte: in this case, it's a bug of kurumin-drivers to provide something that is in the -wlang package; you'll have to get kurumin to fix that bug, since it has nothing whatsoever to do with Debian. You can use --force-overwrite for the time being, but that will probably break something else. |
| 00:27.42 | dondelelcaro | !force-overwrite |
| 00:27.42 | dpkg | The reason you have been told to use --force-overwrite is because some packages in unstable are buggy and either have missing Conflicts: or contain files that they shouldn't. Check the BTS and make sure that a bug has been filed about the package in question (ask me about <bts>) then run dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/.deb or apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <foopackagename>; |
| 00:28.18 | ke6isf | albertino_: What format is the package in? |
| 00:28.19 | wireddd | yeah I think actually using debian is the best solution... |
| 00:28.43 | albertino_ | ke6isf .deb |
| 00:28.51 | albertino_ | miror |
| 00:29.02 | ke6isf | albertino_: Is this package not available on the debian network mirrors? |
| 00:29.22 | albertino_ | yeah it is |
| 00:29.42 | albertino_ | but i dont know how to install in under linux |
| 00:29.49 | ke6isf | albertino_: Then just 'apt-get install packagename'. You don't need the actual .deb in order to do this, it should just pull it in from the mirrors. |
| 00:29.50 | albertino_ | what should i type? |
| 00:29.53 | MegaByte | dondelelcaro, Never mind. I just removed the package. |
| 00:30.00 | wireddd | dpkg -i yourpackagehere |
| 00:30.06 | albertino_ | ok |
| 00:30.24 | albertino_ | thank you guys |
| 00:30.58 | ke6isf | !pal wireddd |
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| 00:32.20 | wireddd | dpkg -i |
| 00:32.23 | mareprost | i just don't get don't understand all you guys complaining testing is not usable. i run it myself and it yields excellent results. and what's this about it crashing at ran |
| 00:32.33 | wireddd | oops |
| 00:32.41 | ke6isf | QED. |
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| 00:33.39 | wireddd | I run testing and it dies every now and then, but for the most part its pretty stable |
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| 00:34.05 | NyteRukh | res |
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| 00:34.27 | ke6isf | Well, there's a reason it's called "testing". No doubt it's stable enough, but I still wouldn't put it in production. |
| 00:34.33 | wireddd | exactly |
| 00:34.34 | jroes | hi, I installed debian and I'm getting "MBR 1234F" at my prompt when I reboot without any CDs or floppies in, anyone know what could be wrong? |
| 00:34.39 | ke6isf | Then again, I get the feeling mareprost was just being silly. |
| 00:34.49 | NyteRukh | something to do with the master boot record |
| 00:34.55 | jroes | right |
| 00:35.04 | ke6isf | jroes: What bootstrap loader did you install, grub or lilo? Where did you install it? |
| 00:35.05 | NyteRukh | google it |
| 00:35.06 | wireddd | yeah I just realized that he quit right after that |
| 00:35.09 | jroes | lilo |
| 00:35.22 | jroes | I installed it to the first block instead of MBR |
| 00:35.31 | jroes | because I get errors if I put it in the MBR |
| 00:35.33 | Guerin | jroes: WHY? |
| 00:35.36 | Guerin | bah |
| 00:35.37 | jroes | and then I let debian install something else into the MBR |
| 00:35.42 | NyteRukh | i use grub..no problems |
| 00:35.42 | ke6isf | jroes: You should install it to /dev/hd0. |
| 00:35.48 | jroes | I've got an older box - celeron 366, etc. etc., very nasty |
| 00:35.52 | ke6isf | jroes: And you really should be using grub. |
| 00:36.02 | ke6isf | joris: A celeron 366 isn't *that* old. |
| 00:36.22 | jroes | ke6isf: it's a woody cd, it never told me about grub. when I used grub in ubuntu it froze loading stage 1 |
| 00:36.33 | ke6isf | !tell jroes -about sarge |
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| 00:36.57 | jroes | with LILO installed on the MBR using ubuntu I got L 99 99 99 99, which isn't even a documented error code in the LILO user docs |
| 00:37.14 | ke6isf | jroes: Download sarge netinst. |
| 00:37.40 | NyteRukh | i got that..but cant install :{ hd dont work |
| 00:37.41 | lemur | no, download freebsd |
| 00:37.47 | NyteRukh | >:o |
| 00:37.50 | ke6isf | !bsdsmite lemur |
| 00:37.54 | Gnea | jroes: that's because lilo sucks :) |
| 00:37.59 | ke6isf | bugger, no bsdsmite. Yet. |
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| 00:38.17 | NyteRukh | lol |
| 00:38.28 | Elly | aptitude doesn't have a package for it |
| 00:38.35 | Elly | so I turned to #debian :\ |
| 00:38.42 | lemur | Good luck |
| 00:38.51 | lemur | we're all rude here and will only insult you |
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| 00:38.56 | Elly | pfft |
| 00:39.01 | Elly | it can't be as bad as ##slackware |
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| 00:39.04 | Gnea | Elly: tried freshmeat.net? |
| 00:39.07 | Elly | nope :D |
| 00:39.10 | ke6isf | !tell elly -about limewire |
| 00:39.35 | Elly | 'Not in debian' |
| 00:39.36 | Elly | ;( |
| 00:39.41 | Gnea | that's right. |
| 00:39.46 | ke6isf | Elly: Well, then, follow the URL that dpkg gave you. |
| 00:39.55 | NyteRukh | lol |
| 00:39.58 | lemur | Elly: You're trying to do something illegal, aren't you? |
| 00:40.03 | Gnea | yeah wtf this isn't windows |
| 00:40.04 | Elly | almost definitely :D |
| 00:40.31 | NyteRukh | the prob i had is installing it..it went to format the drive...and would reboot it self...think i need a new hd for it |
| 00:40.38 | NyteRukh | or at least another one |
| 00:40.52 | Elly | http://www.limewire.com/english/content/downloadfree.shtml <----- hahahaahahaaha |
| 00:40.56 | ke6isf | NyteRukh: What was on the drive before, and how old is this disk? |
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| 00:41.17 | NyteRukh | its a 10gig..hd drive that came with the old hp comp... |
| 00:41.22 | ke6isf | Elly: Cute! =^_^= |
| 00:41.34 | Elly | "No...I won't use it for copyright infringement!" |
| 00:41.35 | NyteRukh | im guessing the sis had win95 on it..since its a 500 mhrz |
| 00:41.44 | ke6isf | NyteRukh: Yeh, could be toast. |
| 00:41.51 | ke6isf | NyteRukh: BUT |
| 00:41.57 | Gnea | Elly: oh, you think it's a joke. |
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| 00:42.07 | Elly | I know it's not |
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| 00:42.09 | NyteRukh | not sure what i can do otehr than get another hd |
| 00:42.11 | Elly | but it's hilarious regardless |
| 00:42.15 | jroes | hmmn. |
| 00:42.21 | jroes | attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 00:42.25 | ke6isf | NyteRukh: If it were physical age issues, you would more likely get bad sector issues scattered during the mkfs portion, rather than a spontaneous reboot. |
| 00:42.33 | jroes | ext2_read_inode unable to read inode block. dang. kernel panic: no init found :( |
| 00:42.44 | lemur | Copyright infringement is like masturbation |
| 00:42.45 | svizzero | anyone knows why after inserting the live cd to boot up debian I get only a blank screen and nothing else? |
| 00:42.49 | NyteRukh | k..than how would i stop it from rebooting while refrormating |
| 00:42.52 | hyperstream | does xmms have any logs for debugging? |
| 00:42.54 | ke6isf | Gnea: As humorous as it isn't, it still seems silly. Look, if you were 13 years old and you were going shoplifting, would you tell your mother? |
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| 00:43.08 | Elly | 'OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE' |
| 00:43.13 | jroes | so apparnetly I can't rescue my little /dev/hda1 |
| 00:43.13 | Elly | stupid JamVM |
| 00:43.31 | Gnea | ke6isf: heh, no, and i sure as hell wouldn't be stupid enough to tell a group of complete strangers either ;) |
| 00:43.44 | NyteRukh | lol |
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| 00:44.14 | ke6isf | Gnea: There you go. =^^= |
| 00:44.48 | ke6isf | Hmm, must get laundry money. bbiab. |
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| 00:44.56 | baikonur | hi |
| 00:45.01 | NyteRukh | hi |
| 00:45.53 | baikonur | after the last update of "initscripts" bootlogd does not work anymore: "bootlogd: cannot find console device 136:1 in /dev". Is this a bug or a configuration problem? |
| 00:46.17 | jroes | will netinst install a base system for me strictly from the CD first? |
| 00:46.18 | BlueLotus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:46.28 | jroes | and then I can install wlan drivers and stuff somehow? |
| 00:47.48 | Gnea | BlueLotus: hahaha |
| 00:47.55 | Elly | wow, Java has stupid license terms |
| 00:48.06 | BlueLotus | T_T |
| 00:48.11 | Gnea | Elly: does it? |
| 00:48.15 | Elly | yes |
| 00:48.19 | Gnea | explain. |
| 00:48.20 | Elly | well...egregious is a better word |
| 00:48.28 | Elly | anything with 15 screens of license |
| 00:48.30 | Elly | is up to no good |
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| 00:48.54 | Gnea | and anything with 15 screens of license has dealt with enough no-gooders to know better |
| 00:48.56 | lemur | In Soviet Russia, license screens YOU |
| 00:49.10 | NyteRukh | lol |
| 00:49.33 | Elly | pfft |
| 00:49.44 | Elly | I think we can all agree that Sun's license < the GPL |
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| 00:50.15 | lemur | I think nobody can agree about anything involving the GPL |
| 00:50.23 | Gnea | Elly: well when you say 'we', you actually mean 'I' - or you, specifically. |
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| 00:50.43 | Guerin | Sun are stupid, AND up to no good |
| 00:50.50 | lemur | Sun are not stupid! |
| 00:50.51 | Gnea | granted, sun's license has issues |
| 00:50.58 | Swat2 | Anyone have any ideas how to create a user in proftpd without giving them shell or any other form of access? |
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| 00:51.13 | Guerin | Swat2: give them /bin/false as a shell? |
| 00:51.24 | Gnea | but if they're so stupid, then they wouldn't have such a reputation for generating some kickass gear and software |
| 00:51.27 | BlueLotus | Anyone know how to get back my root shell? I chsh'ed it away on accident |
| 00:51.32 | Guerin | Swat2: proftpd-doc tells you |
| 00:51.37 | Elly | they aren't stupid |
| 00:51.41 | Elly | they're up to no good though |
| 00:51.43 | Elly | well |
| 00:51.44 | Elly | some good |
| 00:51.46 | Elly | but some bad! |
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| 00:51.55 | Gnea | now that i can agree with |
| 00:51.57 | Gnea | :) |
| 00:51.57 | Swat2 | Guerin: is that secure? |
| 00:51.59 | Guerin | something can simultaneously be stupid and produce kickass gear |
| 00:52.06 | Guerin | Swat2: depends on the admin. |
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| 00:52.17 | Gnea | remmeber, humans are stupid by nature |
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| 00:52.24 | Swat2 | lol |
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| 00:53.00 | mboso | How do you find out what resultion X11 is using? |
| 00:53.09 | jroes | root_: don't irc as root!!! |
| 00:53.22 | Guerin | mboso: xdpyinfo |
| 00:53.28 | Guerin | mboso: or xrandr |
| 00:53.31 | mboso | Guerin : thanks |
| 00:54.04 | NyteRukh | hell ya dont... |
| 00:54.04 | lemur | I'm tired of computers just not working! Make them work! |
| 00:54.28 | Gnea | laziness has a price. |
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| 00:55.29 | ray | anyone here get ati drivers to work with xorg? |
| 00:55.33 | NyteRukh | thought most irc networks would ban ya anyways |
| 00:56.39 | asuffield | lemur: I charge by the hour for that |
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| 00:57.05 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:57.18 | gnulu | i can't login as regular user.. how do i clean out tmp and not screw my pc |
| 00:57.54 | Gnea | gnulu: boot something else and mount it |
| 00:57.59 | baikonur | after the last update of "initscripts" bootlogd does not work anymore: "bootlogd: cannot find console device 136:1 in /dev". Any hints how to solve this? |
| 00:57.59 | Guerin | gnulu: reboot |
| 00:58.13 | Elly | alright, someone name an MP3 player that can handle .m4a files |
| 00:58.18 | Elly | and don't say XMMS, because it doesn't |
| 00:58.19 | Guerin | Elly: cplay |
| 00:58.23 | Guerin | xmms dopes |
| 00:58.25 | Guerin | does |
| 00:58.30 | wireddd | has anyone ever tried to get a poster from lgp printed at kinkos? |
| 00:58.33 | kl0ck | Elly: bob marley |
| 00:58.36 | Guerin | with the correct output plugin |
| 00:58.49 | Gnea | baikonur: what changed? |
| 00:59.04 | Elly | well |
| 00:59.09 | gnulu | >> shouldn't i clean up my cache.. for example when you apt-get too much software... how do you fix that |
| 00:59.10 | Elly | what's the plugin called, and can apt install it? |
| 00:59.19 | baikonur | Gnea: I don't know. How can I find it out afterwards? |
| 00:59.21 | Gnea | apt-cache search xmms |
| 00:59.24 | Gnea | it's there somewhere |
| 00:59.26 | asuffield | Elly: that's not mp3. that's aac |
| 00:59.45 | Gnea | baikonur: sounds like udev got installed - what kernel are you on? |
| 00:59.57 | mboso | I switched from a 15" lcd to a 19". My default depth in Xorg is 24 and it only has two modes "1280x1024" and "1024x768". I thought by restarting X with the new monitor attached it would use 1280x1024 but no dice. |
| 01:00.13 | baikonur | Elly: the plugin is not in unstable afaik. But you can get precompiled packaged on the net |
| 01:00.13 | mboso | how do i force a resolution change? |
| 01:00.21 | Elly | wow, tons of plugins, but none for .m4a |
| 01:00.37 | Gnea | mboso: you need to reconfigure X for it |
| 01:00.43 | Gnea | mboso: this isn't wintendo |
| 01:00.45 | wireddd | mboso set 1280x1024 as the default |
| 01:01.08 | Gnea | mboso: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 01:01.23 | mboso | ah. I did it manually in the xorg.conf file. |
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| 01:01.37 | Gnea | Elly: well it might be on the webpage |
| 01:01.44 | baikonur | Gnea: that would explain it. udev fails too and says it will only work with kernel >= 2.6.12. I'm using 2.6.11-1-k7. |
| 01:01.51 | wireddd | mboso put the depth you want first |
| 01:01.56 | Gnea | baikonur: there ya go |
| 01:02.05 | wireddd | err resolution |
| 01:02.07 | Guerin | Elly: the mp4 plugin isn't in debian. It is at rarewares.org and apt.cerkinfo.be; for sid. |
| 01:02.09 | Gnea | baikonur: look for linux-kernel |
| 01:02.11 | mboso | wireddd : I did. that's what's throwing me off. 1280x1024 is my first depth |
| 01:02.15 | Gnea | baikonur: the name got changed |
| 01:02.26 | Elly | I think I'm using 'etch' |
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| 01:02.45 | Gnea | Elly: yeah, but xmms has a website. just google it |
| 01:03.04 | Guerin | Elly: then it may or may not work. Your other option is to install mpeg4ip-player and add a line to your cplay config, which I can give you |
| 01:03.17 | wireddd | mboso post that section of your xf86config into #flood and let me take a look at it |
| 01:03.29 | baikonur | Gnea: look where? What I don't understand is why it worked before the update. Same kernel and udev installed too. |
| 01:04.01 | Gnea | baikonur: naw it wasn't the same udev - this happened a few weeks ago |
| 01:04.57 | baikonur | Gnea: ah, then it was not the initscripts update but the udev update. So you suggest installing a new kernel version? |
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| 01:05.08 | jroes | rargh!!!! |
| 01:05.11 | Elly | ...wtf, this module is a .tar.bz2.tar |
| 01:05.13 | Gnea | baikonur: yeah |
| 01:05.19 | jroes | GRUB Loading stage1.5. GRUB loading, please wait... |
| 01:05.20 | NyteRukh | ? |
| 01:05.20 | jroes | and then nothing |
| 01:05.24 | jroes | whoa! |
| 01:05.29 | jroes | the computer just beeped a little bit |
| 01:05.31 | jroes | and it's just sitting there |
| 01:05.51 | Guerin | Elly: don't use stuff direct from the xmms sites. If you must, download and build the source from rarewares or cerkinfo |
| 01:06.07 | NyteRukh | mmm dont like someting in the inetd i think |
| 01:06.12 | baikonur | Gnea: thank you |
| 01:06.17 | Gnea | np |
| 01:06.19 | NyteRukh | dont qoute me yet..not a debian expert yet |
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| 01:07.37 | baikonur | Gnea: ah, the package is named linux-image now and not kernel-image |
| 01:07.49 | Gnea | baikonur: :) |
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| 01:08.05 | Gnea | heh |
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| 01:09.35 | sandman | How are these packages going to be any different from eachother?: |
| 01:09.37 | sandman | i A kernel-headers-2.6.8-2 2.6.8-16 2.6.8-16 |
| 01:09.37 | sandman | i A kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686 2.6.8-16 2.6.8-16 |
| 01:10.03 | sandman | Isn't this redundant? |
| 01:10.18 | Gnea | sandman: apt-cache show kernel-headers-2.6.8-2 && apt-cache show kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 01:10.23 | Gnea | no, it is not. |
| 01:11.29 | cycom | is there a way to do a remote install of a stock liveCD? |
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| 01:11.35 | cycom | like through ssh? |
| 01:12.02 | baikonur | Gnea: when I have to install a new kernel I can also compile one myself, but because I have a new mainboard I don't know the correct .config yet. Is there an easy method to figure out the right kernel configuration? The kernel I last compiled didn't had the correct agp-driver so that I only got a blurred screen after loading the kernel. |
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| 01:12.25 | ke6isf | cycom: Well, what are you trying to do? |
| 01:12.49 | cycom | ke6isf, install debian on a machine upstairs while I'm on my laptop watching I robot downstairs. |
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| 01:13.23 | NIghtrunner | IS there a way to tell apt-get to NOT remove a package that's pending? It failed trying to remove earlier and now it's broken, kills any kind of package manager. |
| 01:13.31 | Guerin | cycom: there is no livecd. It is possible to do a stock debian install remotely using debootatrap, though. |
| 01:13.41 | PuckCh | hello. i'm trying to setup mailman + postfix under Debian with virtual domains, using the info from the mailman web site.. And I have now a "Group mismatch error". Anyone may help ? |
| 01:13.42 | ke6isf | cycom: What I would do if I were me is do the first portion of netinst, get sshd installed via apt, and then ssh in at the laptop and use aptitude from there. |
| 01:14.08 | Guerin | cycom: you might as well just put the cd in, boot, hit enter a few times, go watch the movie, come back after half an hour to enter passwords, etc... |
| 01:14.42 | ke6isf | cycom: Besides, your VCR or DVD player does have a 'pause' button. =^_^= |
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| 01:15.12 | cycom | ke6isf, it's actually on HBO, I have a DVR, and I want to do it to a bunch of machines, and was trying to see if it was feasible. |
| 01:15.33 | cycom | all: I figured I'd see if there was an easy way first, and then find a way |
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| 01:16.00 | NIghtrunner | meh, I"ll re-read the HOWTO. I'm pretty sure this is all PEBKAC |
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| 01:16.18 | boris`` | debian sucks |
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| 01:16.33 | ke6isf | Wel,l that was pleasantly simple to deal with. |
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| 01:17.13 | baikonur | how does the "updated kernel packaging system" works? |
| 01:17.39 | Guerin | !tell baikonur about kp mantra |
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| 01:18.25 | NyteRukh | apt-show version will give me the version of my kernel ? |
| 01:18.42 | EdLin | NyteRukh: uname -r |
| 01:18.47 | NyteRukh | k |
| 01:19.24 | baikonur | Guerin: hmm, but make-kpkg is the traditional way to do this, isn't it? However apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 tells me that this package is produced "using an updated kernel packaging system" that "replaces older kernel-image packages" |
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| 01:19.54 | Guerin | !2.6.12 |
| 01:19.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, 2.6.12 is Kernel 2.6.12 has changes which require looking at.udev users need to use 0.58. VMware is known to have patches. Virtual midi alsa is also not included would appear, alsa 1.0.9 modules from alsa-source fixes. the kernel in which the new kernel packaging was introduced. see http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6.html for the list of new binary packages built |
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| 01:19.58 | NyteRukh | is this sarge ? 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 01:20.04 | Guerin | baikonur: i get what you mean, now. |
| 01:20.06 | Elly | sigh |
| 01:20.09 | Elly | this plugin won't make |
| 01:20.13 | Guerin | NyteRukh: yes and no. |
| 01:20.24 | Guerin | NyteRukh: it's sarge, but it's not stable sarge. |
| 01:20.32 | Guerin | it's pre-stable |
| 01:20.43 | NyteRukh | ok..so to get stable i would have to order cds from a vender |
| 01:21.04 | Guerin | NyteRukh: no, you could update/upgrade to it. It might just be your kernel. |
| 01:21.32 | baikonur | Guerin: thanks |
| 01:22.09 | NyteRukh | mm never upgraded or compiled a kernel before |
| 01:22.12 | Elly | :'( |
| 01:22.18 | Elly | I can't play these damned .m4p files |
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| 01:22.31 | Elly | and there's no banshee build |
| 01:22.32 | Elly | dammit |
| 01:22.46 | NyteRukh | mm dont winamp have a linux version i m pretty sure they can do mp4 |
| 01:22.54 | Elly | no, it doesn't |
| 01:22.58 | Elly | XMMS is a clone |
| 01:23.03 | NyteRukh | k |
| 01:23.09 | Elly | but it doesn't support m4a out of the box and the plugin errors when I try to make it |
| 01:23.20 | baikonur | Elly: did you try a precompiled one? |
| 01:23.25 | Guerin | Elly: which plugins are you trying to build, and why won't they build? |
| 01:23.25 | quittt | what the fuck is hapenning with mouse in Debian |
| 01:23.30 | maher | Elly: have youtried marillat's debs? |
| 01:23.38 | Guerin | baikonur: not available for testing, only for unstable |
| 01:23.42 | quittt | it suddenly gets crazy in the monitor and stop answering... it is so strange... |
| 01:23.53 | Guerin | Elly: all things considered, mplayer or xine will play mp4 |
| 01:24.23 | baikonur | Guerin: xmms-mp4plugin works for me. |
| 01:24.28 | Elly | I'm trying to build xmms-mp4plugin |
| 01:24.32 | Elly | but it won't make because of this |
| 01:24.32 | Elly | mp4property.h:61: error: invalid pure specifier (only `= 0' is allowed) before ';' token |
| 01:24.45 | Guerin | baikonur: on testing, from marillat? |
| 01:25.11 | PuckCh | someone here running postfix an mailman under debian ? |
| 01:25.21 | Guerin | Elly: you might neet to use gcc-3.4; pass MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" |
| 01:25.32 | baikonur | Guerin: no on unstable form marillat |
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| 01:25.36 | apprentice | hello |
| 01:26.13 | baikonur | hi apprentice |
| 01:26.21 | ke6isf | NyteRukh: Kernel install is pretty simple, actually. |
| 01:26.25 | Guerin | Elly: marillat probably has some for etch, too. |
| 01:26.26 | apprentice | im curios do you know if linspire uses kde? |
| 01:26.35 | Elly | where? |
| 01:26.37 | ke6isf | apprentice: You might ask in #linspire, actually. |
| 01:26.37 | Guerin | apprentice: why would we? |
| 01:26.44 | Guerin | !tell Elly about marillat |
| 01:26.48 | apprentice | linspire does not exist |
| 01:26.51 | Guerin | wtf |
| 01:26.55 | Guerin | !marillat |
| 01:27.02 | Elly | !tell Elly -about marillat |
| 01:27.02 | ke6isf | !linspire |
| 01:27.02 | dpkg | linspire is, like, a "newbie-friendly" proprietary distribution with some Debian roots, giving KDE and a restricted selection of old packages for $100. it does NOT run windows applications, nor run anyone or anything as root (try Ark Linux for run-as-root) |
| 01:27.08 | NyteRukh | really..? im afraid i would screw it up and have to reinstall the whole shebang |
| 01:27.09 | Guerin | !mplayer |
| 01:27.09 | dpkg | [mplayer] not packaged by debian for licensing issues, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. |
| 01:27.24 | ke6isf | apprentice: I guess it does provide KDE, but by the sound of the factoid there, Linspire pretty much sucks. |
| 01:27.25 | Thaiger | I finally got my X server set up so I don't seem to get any errors with DRI, but my glxgears is as slow as every with a Radeon 9200 I get from about 200 fps to 400. Any advice? |
| 01:28.27 | apprentice | bah. kde sucks |
| 01:28.28 | ke6isf | Where'd the marillat factoid go? |
| 01:28.33 | Elly | so I still don't have a straight answer here, what am I supposed to do? |
| 01:28.38 | NyteRukh | i use gnome |
| 01:28.38 | ke6isf | !start a wm manager |
| 01:28.44 | ke6isf | !start a wm war |
| 01:28.44 | dpkg | emacs sucks! |
| 01:28.51 | Guerin | nvz was fucking with it yesterday |
| 01:28.54 | ke6isf | '...emacs is a wm? |
| 01:28.57 | Guerin | it's still there, just won't come out |
| 01:29.02 | Guerin | !literal marillat |
| 01:29.02 | dpkg | marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 01:29.17 | Gathond | ke6isf: they probably added one:) |
| 01:29.31 | Guerin | ke6isf: it's whatever you want it to be |
| 01:29.42 | Elly | !literal marillat key |
| 01:29.47 | Elly | ;\ |
| 01:29.59 | dpkg | marillat key is <reply> if you are using apt > 0.6 and it is complaining about a missing gpg key for marillat's repository, read here: http://debian.video.free.fr/, or ask me about <apt secure> |
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| 01:30.05 | ke6isf | Gathond: M-x kitchen-sink |
| 01:30.06 | Guerin | nvz: why did you fuck up the marillat factoid? |
| 01:30.06 | ke6isf | =^_^= |
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| 01:32.09 | ray | can anyone help me get fglrx working |
| 01:32.31 | ke6isf | !fglrx |
| 01:32.31 | dpkg | i guess fglrx is see firegl, or see ati drivers, or usually not worth the effort |
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| 01:32.55 | ray | !ati drivers |
| 01:32.55 | dpkg | If you wish to use ATI's closed-source binary fglrx driver, then follow the instructions on http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html - do NOT try to convert the drivers from ATI's website yourself with Alien. These drivers support Radeon 8500 or higher cards. |
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| 01:33.15 | ke6isf | !tell ray -about msg the bot |
| 01:33.23 | Elly | after reading marillat's instructions: W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 01:33.40 | Guerin | Elly: apt-get update |
| 01:33.53 | Elly | I did aptitude update before |
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| 01:33.56 | Elly | that's when that happened |
| 01:33.57 | ke6isf | Elly: Whenever you hand-add stuff to your sources, you have to apt-get update. |
| 01:33.59 | Elly | are they not the same? |
| 01:34.29 | Guerin | they should be |
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| 01:34.45 | Elly | aptitude update gave me that error |
| 01:34.47 | Guerin | i'm not using marillat any more, so I don't know |
| 01:34.51 | Elly | apt-get update and then aptitude update didn't |
| 01:35.02 | ke6isf | Elly: Lemme look at my marillat line... |
| 01:35.22 | Elly | it worked now |
| 01:35.22 | Elly | heh |
| 01:35.53 | ke6isf | Elly: Well then. =^^= |
| 01:35.56 | Thaiger | How do I know if direct rendering is fuctioning properly? |
| 01:36.10 | resiak | Thaiger: glxinfo methinks. |
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| 01:36.42 | Elly | man, I miss banshee |
| 01:36.43 | Thaiger | Thanks |
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| 01:37.36 | Thaiger | I have load DRI in my XF86Config-4 and the log says its loaded but glxinfo says Direct Rendering: No. What do I need to turn Direct Rendering on? |
| 01:37.40 | Guerin | Elly: it's easy enought to build debian packages from source. |
| 01:38.58 | Guerin | Elly: but more tricky would be the fact that, if you want it to play mp4, you'd need to build it againt mp4 libs - which aren't in debian |
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| 01:40.30 | resiak | !tell Nackox -about away |
| 01:40.50 | Nackox | Sorry |
| 01:40.57 | Nackox | wont happen again |
| 01:42.08 | NyteRukh | ? |
| 01:42.34 | resiak | ! |
| 01:42.42 | NyteRukh | lol |
| 01:42.42 | Guerin | ... |
| 01:42.55 | NyteRukh | 8-) |
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| 01:43.42 | resiak | Guerin: It's Sunday. |
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| 01:43.50 | Guerin | oh, so it is. |
| 01:43.54 | ke6isf | resiak: Not here, it's not. Yet. |
| 01:44.01 | ke6isf | It's only a matter of time... |
| 01:44.03 | resiak | Sun Sep 25 02:44:03 BST 2005 |
| 01:44.13 | resiak | It's Sunday in over half the world! |
| 01:44.25 | NyteRukh | go Jacksonville |
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| 01:44.31 | baikonur | re |
| 01:44.32 | ke6isf | resiak: Well, then again, this is #debian. It's always Sunday, somewhere. |
| 01:45.01 | baikonur | now I'm runnig 2.6.12-1-k7, but bootlogd still says "bootlogd: cannot find console device 136:2 in /dev"!? |
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| 01:46.01 | dynaemu | Hi |
| 01:46.18 | dynaemu | When I start up linux, it pauses for a LONG time and then says |
| 01:46.29 | dynaemu | hdi: no response (0xfe) |
| 01:46.33 | dynaemu | how do I fix this? |
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| 01:47.13 | quittt | WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPENNING WITH MOUSE in this xorg |
| 01:47.15 | quittt | damnit |
| 01:47.25 | Xenguy | quittt: STFU |
| 01:47.31 | ke6isf | quittt: Dude, chill! |
| 01:47.35 | quittt | it is simply getting crazy on the scream and clicking everwhere |
| 01:47.38 | quittt | it is strange |
| 01:47.42 | stew | the real question is wtf is happening with the CAPS LOCK |
| 01:47.56 | ke6isf | !drxx quittt |
| 01:47.57 | dpkg | quittt: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:48.09 | ke6isf | quittt: Are you using sid? |
| 01:48.10 | Guerin | quittt: change to a usb mouse. ps/2 is crap. |
| 01:48.15 | stew | quittt: 2.6 kernel? /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
| 01:48.17 | quittt | ke6isf, no |
| 01:48.21 | baikonur | which permissions should have /dev/console? |
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| 01:48.35 | Guerin | quittt: i had this with ps/2 and 2.6 on some machines. It's a hardware/kernel disagreement issue. |
| 01:48.38 | stew | baikonur: 600 |
| 01:49.04 | quittt | now the mouse stopped working |
| 01:49.06 | quittt | shit |
| 01:49.11 | jarango | Is there a program to copy a given amount of randomly selected songs (in MB) from a source directory into a destination directory ? |
| 01:49.15 | Guerin | quittt: get a damn usb mouse |
| 01:49.26 | ke6isf | quittt: Optical by any chance? |
| 01:49.36 | quittt | Guerin, actually I cant do that |
| 01:49.51 | dynaemu | when I start up linux, I get this error hdi: no response (0xfe) how do I fix this? |
| 01:49.52 | quittt | what should I do? |
| 01:49.56 | Guerin | quittt: you might need to go back to a 2.4 kernel then. |
| 01:50.01 | ke6isf | !tell dynaemu -about repeat |
| 01:50.07 | quittt | why? |
| 01:50.14 | baikonur | hmm, why do I get "bootlogd: ioctl(/dev/pts/4, TIOCCONS): Operation not permitted" then? |
| 01:50.15 | quittt | doesnt make sense |
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| 01:50.28 | Guerin | quittt: i had this with ps/2 and 2.6 on some machines. It's a hardware/kernel disagreement issue. |
| 01:50.55 | ke6isf | jarango: Not really, but I'm sure you can make one in perl. |
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| 01:52.42 | Elly | grr >=\ |
| 01:52.48 | quittt | what should I do to get this working now? |
| 01:53.00 | quittt | it stopped working and I dont wanna reboot |
| 01:53.28 | ke6isf | quittt: Perhaps dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
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| 01:53.49 | quittt | ke6isf, it is not only in X... it is the same for all the system |
| 01:53.57 | quittt | gdm doesnt work too =/ |
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| 01:54.18 | ke6isf | quittt: Then restart the mouse service. If that still doesn't work, what Guerin said. |
| 01:54.41 | quittt | ke6isf, which is the mouse service? |
| 01:55.06 | ke6isf | quittt: Console mouse services... you know what, that's separate. Forget what I said about that, I'm losing it. |
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| 01:57.03 | NyteRukh | gnite |
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| 01:57.37 | ivan` | how do i get debian to not run the installer again on bootup? |
| 01:58.15 | liable | take the disk out? |
| 01:58.18 | ivan` | it is out |
| 01:58.20 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:58.22 | ivan` | it wants to run the setup thing |
| 01:58.25 | ivan` | i'm done setting things up |
| 01:58.27 | Guerin | ivan`: finish the setup. |
| 01:58.37 | ivan` | i don't want it to download a million stable packages when i want to install unstable |
| 01:58.48 | Guerin | ivan`: then just bang through it and choose "i'm done" as soon as it gives you the chance |
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| 01:58.53 | Guerin | ivan`: why not? |
| 01:58.58 | RenAndStimpy | yo fuckbags |
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| 01:59.08 | liable | .. |
| 01:59.10 | ivan` | Guerin, i'm installing unstable? |
| 01:59.12 | RenAndStimpy | can anyone see my text? |
| 01:59.35 | resiak | ivan`: So why didn't you feed it Unstable sources? |
| 01:59.36 | RenAndStimpy | wassup my shizzle dawgs |
| 01:59.36 | Guerin | ivan`: if you're installing unstable, you must be 1337 enough to figure this out for yourself |
| 01:59.46 | resiak | Oh, wait, that's right, because you SHOULDN'T BE INSTALLING SID |
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| 01:59.51 | RenAndStimpy | im hangin on da flip side G |
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| 02:00.00 | liable | haha |
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| 02:00.19 | Guerin | heavy c put a cap in his ass, yo |
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| 02:01.03 | quittt | what is hapenning... |
| 02:01.09 | caphuso | sunday |
| 02:01.31 | Guerin | sunday means: americana show and roots&culture on radioactive.fm |
| 02:02.34 | ryon | okay, I'm totally stumped here. I'm installing linux26 from a sarge CD, and any apt-getting, including the initial one performed by setup is leading to an Error about needing to remove e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Predepends loop. Has anyone run into this? I've installed from the same cd on other boxen and never had this problem. |
| 02:02.54 | Elly | hmm, banshee requires gnome 2.12 ;\ |
| 02:02.57 | Guerin | ryon: because you're installing testing, not stable. |
| 02:03.30 | LightVision | anyone know why no sound is in my VOB files? |
| 02:03.47 | resiak | Silent movies |
| 02:03.47 | resiak | ? |
| 02:03.55 | caphuso | LightVision: because it's the 1920 black and wight version? :) |
| 02:03.56 | quittt | what may be causing this? |
| 02:04.10 | Guerin | quittt: I ALREADY FUCKING TOLD YOU |
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| 02:04.41 | Guerin | quittt: some kernel and mainboard combinations don't like ps/2 mice. Deal. |
| 02:04.48 | quittt | Guerin, first do not caps.. second guive me the FUCKING money |
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| 02:05.05 | ryon | right-o. attempting the workaround with APT::Force-LoopBreak doesn't seem to work. Does anyone know where I could find a document detailing a workaround? |
| 02:05.09 | dondelelcaro | quittt, Guerin: use /ignore please. |
| 02:05.12 | Guerin | quittt: what? you can't get $5 together for a usb mouse? |
| 02:05.30 | LightVision | caphuso: lol, not |
| 02:05.56 | LightVision | no sound is in my VOB files only used to happen with old versions of Nero when I was using ms windows |
| 02:06.21 | quittt | Guerin, yep no because I LIVE IN BRAZIL DAMNIT |
| 02:06.33 | Guerin | quittt: you have another option, then: use a 2.4 kernel. |
| 02:06.38 | ke6isf | LightVision: Can you reproduce this problem with other formats or programs? |
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| 02:06.46 | Guerin | quittt: nothing to see here. MOve along. |
| 02:06.50 | quittt | Guerin, I always used 2.6 kernel and never had this problem |
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| 02:07.01 | LightVision | ke6isf: ill try |
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| 02:07.10 | resiak | quittt: Have you changed which 2.6 you are using? |
| 02:07.10 | shift | I've got a wierd one for you guys - When I startx, all keyboard input is going to the console I started X from. |
| 02:07.14 | Neptune | is there any programs like "dvd shrink" for linux? |
| 02:07.23 | quittt | resiak, I updated it |
| 02:07.33 | LightVision | whats the difference between using mount -t msdos and mount -t vfat ? |
| 02:07.35 | ke6isf | Neptune: What is dvd shrink? |
| 02:07.36 | quittt | but hapenns sometimes |
| 02:07.37 | resiak | quittt: So roll back to the older 2.6.x ? |
| 02:07.38 | stew | quittt: do you have psmouse and mousedev modules loaded? |
| 02:07.39 | quittt | not all the time |
| 02:07.51 | ke6isf | LightVision: Perhaps msdos assumes a FAT16 file system? |
| 02:07.52 | LightVision | Neptune: yes there is |
| 02:07.56 | dondelelcaro | shift: sounds like you don't have the keyboard set up properly in your X configuration |
| 02:07.58 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok |
| 02:08.00 | Neptune | ke6isf: it compresses dvd's to iso images that are 4.7 gig |
| 02:08.14 | Neptune | Lightvision: what is it? |
| 02:08.21 | stew | LightVision: i think maybe msdos you get 8.3 filenames only |
| 02:08.25 | gnulu | heya fellas, error message.. last user didn't loginto x for long enough time and won't let my regular user in? |
| 02:08.26 | shift | dondelelcaro - I thought so too, but it's a 104 key keyboard (I'm using the xkb ruleset-thingie) |
| 02:08.54 | resiak | gnulu: What's the error message? Can you log in at a terminal? |
| 02:09.00 | LightVision | ok thanks |
| 02:09.06 | Neptune | Lightvision: what is it? |
| 02:09.11 | quittt | stew, let me see... which was the command?: |
| 02:09.12 | gnulu | yep |
| 02:09.17 | resiak | gnulu: What's the error message? |
| 02:09.48 | shift | dondelelcaro (XkbRules "xorg", XkbModel "pc104", XkbLayout "us") |
| 02:09.51 | stew | quittt: modprobe mousedev ; modprobe psmouse |
| 02:09.58 | quittt | yes I do |
| 02:09.59 | cycom | so what exactly is the installation CD? It's not a liveCD, how does it work? |
| 02:10.05 | LightVision | Neptune: whats what? |
| 02:11.03 | Guerin | cycom: /msg dpkg ig |
| 02:11.03 | Neptune | Lightvision: what is the name of the program that is like dvdshrink? |
| 02:11.04 | caphuso | cycom: it is a very minimal live cd |
| 02:11.04 | liable | dvd:rip? |
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| 02:11.04 | Neptune | no..i think that program only rips it to avi |
| 02:11.10 | dondelelcaro | shift: no, I'm talking about the CoreKeyboard InputDevice; not the setup for the keyboard. |
| 02:11.17 | cycom | Geurin, caphuso, it doesn't have ssh though, right? |
| 02:11.19 | Neptune | i need a program that will compress the disc image to only 4.7 |
| 02:11.25 | caphuso | cycom: no |
| 02:11.56 | shift | dondelelcaro, care to elaborate? |
| 02:11.57 | Neptune | if you have a debian distro, and you have an internet connection..just use apt-get install ssh |
| 02:12.06 | ryon | oh, I get it. Sarge is stable now, but my sarge CD is from when sarge was still |
| 02:12.11 | cycom | caphuso, do you know of a way to add it? could I install the pkg? |
| 02:12.11 | ryon | "testing". |
| 02:12.16 | dondelelcaro | shift: give us your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (or xorg.conf) using the paster bot... |
| 02:12.31 | shift | dondelelcaro: Never used the paster bot before. |
| 02:12.32 | caphuso | cycom: once you installed and booted the base system, sure |
| 02:12.32 | Neptune | caphuso: look at what i said above |
| 02:12.49 | gnulu | i ran out of diskspace |
| 02:12.51 | gnulu | lol |
| 02:12.58 | ryon | so changing the refs in sources.list from "testing" to "sarge" seems to have gotten rid of the error. |
| 02:12.59 | cycom | caphuso, I mean to the liveCD |
| 02:13.00 | shift | dondelelcaro: Besides, I'm running Xorg, not XFree86. |
| 02:13.01 | dondelelcaro | !tell shift -about paster |
| 02:13.04 | gnulu | crap, how do i fix that |
| 02:13.09 | dondelelcaro | shift: so you paste your xorg.conf... |
| 02:13.10 | Guerin | cycom: yoou'll get the change once the first part of the installer is finished |
| 02:13.13 | caphuso | cycom: you'd have to make your own |
| 02:13.14 | quittt | now it is working |
| 02:13.21 | quittt | I killed psmouse |
| 02:13.24 | quittt | and started it again |
| 02:13.55 | cycom | caphuso: could I use something like knoppix to do it? |
| 02:14.12 | shift | dondelelcaro: Gonna be kinda hard to do it all using the mouse... Lemme install a web browser real quick :) |
| 02:14.12 | quittt | what may be causing that?? |
| 02:14.39 | caphuso | cycom: you can run debootstrap from knoppix, but that's only feasible for reasonably advanced people |
| 02:14.41 | Lanix | hey |
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| 02:14.50 | binman180 | hi all |
| 02:15.03 | binman180 | im trying to install UT2003, but i keep getting this error: |
| 02:15.05 | binman180 | Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkEntry' |
| 02:15.05 | binman180 | Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 490 (gtk_entry_get_text): assertion `entry != NULL' failed. |
| 02:15.08 | ryon | I wanna be a reasonably advanced person when I grow up. |
| 02:15.10 | ke6isf | cycom: Where are you in the install process? |
| 02:15.14 | binman180 | anyone know what i should do? |
| 02:15.18 | cycom | ke6isf, nowhere yet |
| 02:15.32 | emha | join #debian |
| 02:15.36 | cycom | ke6isf, here is my goal: drop in a CD, run sshd, then ssh in and run the install as normal |
| 02:15.46 | quittt | Guerin, one thing that you have to learn... simplism sux... it doesnt solve anything |
| 02:15.54 | ke6isf | cycom: OK. Just go through the first phase of netinstall, follow all prompts. The first phase takes maybe five minutes. |
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| 02:16.38 | ke6isf | When one reboots from the first phase of netinst, they are brought directly into a program to allow them to select archives. What is the name of that program? |
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| 02:16.52 | ke6isf | Wait, rephrase question. |
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| 02:17.00 | resiak | binman180: Neither of those are fatal errors. |
| 02:17.02 | ke6isf | !lart ke6isf |
| 02:17.24 | dondelelcaro | ke6isf: apt-setup is basically the name of the program |
| 02:17.37 | ke6isf | dondelelcaro: Lemme try that again. =^_^= |
| 02:17.40 | binman180 | resiak: yes, but the installer does not show license agreement |
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| 02:17.44 | rr72 | when etch comes out all i need to do is change my apt list and dist-upgrade right? |
| 02:17.48 | thingfish | there's base-config... |
| 02:17.56 | binman180 | and i cant accept license if its not displayed |
| 02:17.56 | ke6isf | thingfish: Thank you! |
| 02:17.59 | dondelelcaro | rr72: read the release notes first; but that's the basic idea |
| 02:18.01 | thingfish | :) |
| 02:18.03 | binman180 | so i cant install |
| 02:18.18 | resiak | binman180: oh. Read the readme, see what it depends on, install that stuff, try again. |
| 02:18.26 | resiak | binman180: (at a guess) |
| 02:18.34 | dondelelcaro | rr72: in some cases you may need to upgrade apt/dpkg first; but that'll all be explained in the release notes. |
| 02:18.38 | rr72 | dondelelcaro~ ready in about a month you think? |
| 02:19.19 | ke6isf | cycom: Once you reboot, you'll be brought into that. Select an archive, get out of that; install ssh via 'apt-get install ssh'. Create your username if you haven't already done so (adduser username). Reboot just for grins. Log in remotely. Run 'base-config'. |
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| 02:19.50 | cycom | ke6isf, that would defeat the purpose. I think the best option may be to make my own livecd |
| 02:19.58 | resiak | cycom: Why do you want to do this? |
| 02:20.04 | shift | That program that allows you to use the mouse in the console - It's gpm, right? |
| 02:20.20 | ke6isf | cycom: But, you wanted to do the install while watching a movie, right? This is involved, but it won't take more than a few minutes to prepare it. |
| 02:20.22 | binman180 | resiak: readme aint helping |
| 02:20.25 | rr72 | shift yes |
| 02:20.28 | resiak | binman180: :( |
| 02:20.32 | cycom | because I've got a bunch of machines that can't netboot and I want to install debian on all of them, and not have to go down the line with a keyboard and monitor |
| 02:20.41 | resiak | Disk image ? |
| 02:20.47 | binman180 | ? |
| 02:20.49 | cycom | different hardware |
| 02:20.55 | resiak | So? |
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| 02:21.01 | cycom | not all have floppy drives |
| 02:21.16 | ke6isf | Do all have CD drives? Can all boot from CD drive? |
| 02:21.21 | cycom | ke6isf, yeah |
| 02:21.33 | ke6isf | cycom: Then it's going to be a bit more involved. You have a KVM? |
| 02:21.38 | cycom | yeah, 8 port |
| 02:21.51 | cycom | but again, I'd much rather use ssh |
| 02:21.53 | rr72 | thats one big kvm |
| 02:21.57 | cycom | because they all have a nic |
| 02:21.58 | ke6isf | cycom: OK, wire it up, prep like I described. |
| 02:22.02 | cycom | rr72? |
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| 02:22.16 | rr72 | cycom~ server room or somin? |
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| 02:22.23 | ryon | kvms are cheap. the cables, on the other hand... |
| 02:22.26 | ke6isf | rr72: A little bigger than normal, but not abnormally large. |
| 02:22.30 | cycom | rr72, actually, my room, at the moment |
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| 02:22.43 | wireddd | sounds like my room |
| 02:22.48 | cycom | ke6isf, old school Cybex Commander. Pushbutton switches :) |
| 02:22.49 | ryon | cycom: trying to heat the apartment? |
| 02:22.51 | rr72 | sounds like my basement |
| 02:23.02 | ryon | sounds like my kitchen. |
| 02:23.03 | cycom | ryon, house. and it helps in winter... |
| 02:23.04 | ke6isf | cycom: Not familiar with the model. |
| 02:23.09 | rr72 | the coolest part of webmin is that i can apt-get upgrade from my psp |
| 02:23.21 | ke6isf | !webmin |
| 02:23.21 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 02:23.29 | shift | Is the paster bot lynx-compatible? |
| 02:23.40 | dondelelcaro | shift: it should be |
| 02:23.44 | cycom | ke6isf, I got a few cables, including an extention cable to add another KVM to the same thing |
| 02:23.52 | ke6isf | dondelelcaro: Wow, you really do love webmin, dontcha? =^_^= |
| 02:24.19 | ryon | does radeon support still blow? Is my p1mp all-in-wonder useless to me in debian/GNU? |
| 02:24.21 | dondelelcaro | shift: it doesn't have a file upload field at this point, but if you can get lynx to stick input in from a file it should work |
| 02:24.38 | ke6isf | cycom: No problem for the most part, then - like I sez, wire up the boxen, prep like I described. It'll postpone your viewing of I, Robot a bit (you did mention you have a DVR, right?). |
| 02:24.38 | shift | dondelelcaro: Do you want the whole file, or just the keyboard part? |
| 02:24.48 | dondelelcaro | shift: whole file if it's easiset |
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| 02:25.39 | cycom | ke6isf, this isn't the only time I'm going to do this. I'm not that lazy, I'm talking about for a crapload of machines down the line |
| 02:26.01 | ryon | You should run plan9. And stop shaving and bathing. |
| 02:26.03 | ke6isf | cycom: Lemme think a second. |
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| 02:26.14 | resiak | cycom: Can you really not install the base system and ssh on one hard disk, then image the other disks from it ? |
| 02:26.36 | dondelelcaro | ryon: no clue about the all in wonder, but most of the radeons work fine. |
| 02:26.38 | ke6isf | cycom: You mention different hardware, does this include different NICs? |
| 02:27.00 | resiak | cycom: (I mean, cpio-plus-`grub-install` imaging, if the disks are different sizes.) |
| 02:27.05 | shift | dondelelcaro: Pasted the keyboard part - Copy/pasting using the mouse is a bit beyond me at the moment. (I can only highlight so much of the screen, and have no idea where to go to learn more about it.) |
| 02:27.06 | cycom | ke6isf, thankfully that is one conisistancy |
| 02:27.14 | ryon | dondelelcaro: Oh, sweet. I had always heard nightmare stories about ATI chips and GL support. |
| 02:27.20 | ke6isf | cycom: Also, are these machines on a DHCP network? |
| 02:27.26 | cycom | ke6isf, yes |
| 02:27.34 | ke6isf | cycom: That makes it MUCH easier. |
| 02:27.44 | dondelelcaro | well, I've no clue about GL support since I've no use for 3D crap... but everything else works fine. |
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| 02:28.16 | wireddd | cycom: what do you plan to use them for? |
| 02:28.43 | ke6isf | cycom: This may work then. Do a basic first stage netinst on one disk with the ssh install I described, and the one user that you can log in as. Image the other disks. Boot off of that. |
| 02:28.48 | cycom | wireddd, that's just it. Depends on the machine |
| 02:29.15 | cycom | ke6isf, is there an easy way to just pop in a CD and have it connect to the machine that has the image to start itself? |
| 02:29.33 | rr72 | thx dondelelcaro |
| 02:29.37 | rr72 | l8r all |
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| 02:29.58 | shift | dondelelcaro: Did I forget anything you need? ( http://channels.debian.net/paste/773 ) |
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| 02:30.15 | ke6isf | cycom: That would be easier - but this would be a 'netinst' disk of sorts, that would also add ssh, a root user with a live password, and another user with a live password that you can log in as. Not terribly secure, but functional. |
| 02:30.32 | ke6isf | cycom: I don't think one exists, but I don't see how you can't really make one. |
| 02:31.25 | dondelelcaro | shift: yeah, that looks fine... no other idea here why you're getting what you're seing |
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| 02:32.01 | shift | Yeah. It's wierd. All keyboard input is apparently going to the console, not X. I can't even CTRL-ALT-BKSPC to kill X. |
| 02:33.10 | shift | Hrm. Or, for that matter, CTRL-C or CTRL-Z.... |
| 02:33.11 | Azar | shift use a F1 to F5 key to get in a terminal |
| 02:33.20 | shift | Azar: I'm in a terminal now. |
| 02:33.40 | shift | Azar: But when X is up, the keyboard locks. Not even the numlock key light thing comes on. |
| 02:34.16 | Azar | shift check your XF86Config-4 file see if the keyboard is set |
| 02:34.33 | shift | Azar: xorg.conf, and it is set up correctly, from what I can see. |
| 02:34.37 | Neptune | sounds like you may need to try a new keyboard |
| 02:34.48 | shift | Neptune - Two different keyboard, same problem. |
| 02:34.52 | Azar | shift ah my bad I have no idea about xorg |
| 02:35.01 | Neptune | oh..sorry |
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| 02:35.18 | shift | Yeah. It's rather odd, and annoying. |
| 02:35.21 | eU | hello people? |
| 02:35.30 | Neptune | hello person |
| 02:35.38 | eU | hi... |
| 02:35.42 | eU | sorry! |
| 02:35.43 | shift | I normally use X to load 4 or 5 aterms up at once. Instead, I'm using Alt-F1 - Alt-F5. |
| 02:35.55 | shift | Quite bothersome. |
| 02:36.05 | Azar | xorg is snubbing your keyboard then |
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| 02:36.17 | shift | Is there a package which handles keyboards in Xorg? Should I just give up and install xfree86? |
| 02:36.30 | eU | hi... |
| 02:36.33 | dondelelcaro | shift: in this case, there isn't enough difference between the two to explain that behavoir |
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| 02:36.43 | Azar | shift I would only assume that xorg might have some kind of configurator |
| 02:36.50 | dondelelcaro | (xfree86 and xorg are fairly similar when it comes to keyboards) |
| 02:37.03 | shift | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, maybe? |
| 02:37.15 | shift | Should I try that, or would that not help? |
| 02:37.20 | binman180 | im trying to install UT2003, but i keep getting this error: |
| 02:37.22 | binman180 | Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkEntry' |
| 02:37.25 | binman180 | Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 490 (gtk_entry_get_text): assertion `entry != NULL' failed. |
| 02:37.29 | binman180 | anyone know what i should do? |
| 02:38.04 | eU | desculpe alguma Brazileira qer tc'r? |
| 02:38.06 | eU | rsrsrs |
| 02:38.15 | eU | please! |
| 02:38.15 | Azar | !br |
| 02:38.15 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:38.28 | eU | yes! |
| 02:38.30 | eU | rsrs |
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| 02:39.57 | shift | Fixed it! |
| 02:40.06 | shift | Changed keyboard ruleset to xfree86, pc104, and now it works. |
| 02:40.07 | ke6isf | shift: Curious, how? |
| 02:40.17 | ke6isf | shift: Ah, groovy. =^^= |
| 02:40.31 | eU | h]i some Brazilian is in order to use a keyboard with me? |
| 02:40.41 | shift | Wierd to need to use xfree86 in XkbRules instead of xorg, but it works. |
| 02:40.57 | shift | Thanks for all your help, folks. I'm off to finish setting this bastard up. |
| 02:41.04 | ke6isf | eU: Come again? |
| 02:41.48 | eU | rsrsrs |
| 02:41.58 | eU | olá vc é Brazileiro? |
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| 02:42.17 | ke6isf | !tell eU -about br |
| 02:42.38 | eU | hi? |
| 02:42.48 | ke6isf | eU: /join #debian-br |
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| 02:43.15 | eU | hi... |
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| 02:43.19 | gnulu | hi my disk is full(from a huge apt-get upgrade) and i can't log in as regular user |
| 02:43.26 | zoin | Hey guys |
| 02:43.30 | ke6isf | gnulu: Can you log in as root? |
| 02:43.31 | gnulu | how do i safely remove some files |
| 02:43.32 | gnulu | yes |
| 02:43.36 | ke6isf | gnulu: apt-get clean |
| 02:43.39 | gnulu | aaah |
| 02:43.42 | jobezone | aptitude clean |
| 02:43.56 | MegaByte | I've upgraded from Kurumin (a debian-based distro) |
| 02:43.58 | eU | it forgives me but vc are Brazileira? |
| 02:44.08 | MegaByte | to debian-testing |
| 02:44.14 | ke6isf | MegaByte: Good show. |
| 02:44.24 | MegaByte | the dependencies are broken |
| 02:44.24 | Azar | eU, no somos debianos |
| 02:44.32 | gnulu | if you came to my beer users group, I mean LUG, i'd buy u a killians |
| 02:44.37 | ke6isf | Azar: What did he just ask? =O.o= |
| 02:44.38 | MegaByte | How do I fix them? |
| 02:44.39 | eU | hola...? |
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| 02:44.43 | MegaByte | CLEANLY? |
| 02:44.56 | Azar | ke6isf he wanted to know if we are brasilians |
| 02:45.00 | ke6isf | Azar: Ah. |
| 02:45.03 | eU | tu ablas español? |
| 02:45.10 | maher | MegaByte: its probably simpler if you just install stable |
| 02:45.20 | Azar | eU, no we speak english here |
| 02:45.22 | ke6isf | MegaByte: Did you do netinst for testing? |
| 02:45.29 | MegaByte | maher, I've upgraded FROM stable to testing |
| 02:45.43 | MegaByte | ke6isf, why would I do that? |
| 02:45.47 | eU | yo no ablo muy bien...english... |
| 02:45.49 | maher | MegaByte: no - you changed from a debian derivative to testing |
| 02:45.51 | eU | hahahaha.. |
| 02:46.02 | MegaByte | maher, yes. |
| 02:46.12 | ke6isf | MegaByte: Because it's there and available? Because many people with broadband use netinst? |
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| 02:46.39 | MegaByte | ke6isf, I just want to get my dependencies fixed. How do I do that? |
| 02:46.40 | eU | I well in English not very forgive me but! |
| 02:46.41 | ke6isf | MegaByte: That said, have you run apt-setup yet? |
| 02:46.46 | maher | MegaByte: its probably not worth trying to fix the deps - just install stable |
| 02:47.09 | ke6isf | MegaByte: All these questions aside, maher is right, you might be better off just installing Sarge. |
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| 02:47.48 | Azar | does Sarge comes with aptitude, or you have to install it later ? |
| 02:47.56 | ke6isf | Azar: It comes with aptitude, yes. |
| 02:47.56 | Garda | Hey guys. Does anyone know how many developers and users Ubuntu has taken from Debian |
| 02:48.16 | Azar | thanks ke6isf |
| 02:48.18 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 02:48.18 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 02:48.24 | jobezone | Azar, yes, it does |
| 02:48.25 | eU | e where Country is this room of colloquy? |
| 02:48.41 | ke6isf | eU: America, UK, Canada. |
| 02:49.09 | dondelelcaro | Garda: 0 in the first part, the latter part is unanswerable. |
| 02:49.15 | eU | hahahaha... |
| 02:49.51 | eU | I am in the Brazil... Porto Alegre... you know? |
| 02:49.53 | Azar | eU por favor aqui se hable ingles, mueve-te a #debian-br |
| 02:49.58 | maher | Garda: that would be hard to find out, probably some users, but ubuntu pays people to work on debian, so its probably a net gain there - also ubuntu has probably increased the overal number of people running debian derivaties... |
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| 02:53.23 | tina_m | guys im getting an MD5 error when im trying to install the .12 kernel via synaptic. Is this a bug? Any suggestiions |
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| 02:54.13 | ke6isf | tina_m: What version of Debian? |
| 02:54.38 | tina_m | testing |
| 02:54.56 | liable | tina_m: remove it from cache and try downloading again. |
| 02:55.16 | tina_m | where is the cache file? etc/? |
| 02:55.30 | liable | /var/cache/apt/ |
| 02:55.49 | tina_m | okay will give it a try |
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| 02:56.14 | ke6isf | tina_m: Alternative, try 'apt-get clean'. |
| 02:56.40 | liable | if you want to remove the whole cache, yes. |
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| 02:57.19 | tina_m | i have also noticed every time i upgrade the kernel my audio stops working, do i need to recompile the audio drivers? |
| 02:57.27 | electron_ | Hi, how do I unzip .rar? |
| 02:57.44 | ke6isf | electron_: unrar |
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| 02:58.31 | electron_ | bash: unrar: command not found |
| 02:58.37 | ke6isf | electron_: So install it. |
| 02:58.54 | electron_ | apt-get install unrar (Package not found) |
| 02:58.55 | ke6isf | electron_: You might have to add 'non-free' to the lines in your sources.list. |
| 02:58.58 | jobezone | in my debian system there is no /etc/*release file. Is it installed, or does debian place a text file containing the release version somewhere (other than /etc/motd)? |
| 02:59.15 | jobezone | apt-get install rar ? |
| 02:59.17 | electron_ | oh fuck not again |
| 02:59.21 | maher | jobezone: /etc/debian_version |
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| 02:59.31 | jobezone | maher, ah, thanks |
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| 02:59.58 | ke6isf | electron_: ...what? |
| 03:00.05 | electron_ | ke6isf, do you know of a sample file on the net to show how to add it? |
| 03:00.13 | electron_ | Like exatly which line |
| 03:00.18 | Thaiger | I can't seem to get dri to work, I have a DRM:Radeon_unlock error in dmesg, so I made the agp module for my mobo (VIA) but it can't find the module when I do modprobe via-agp and I still have the error |
| 03:00.35 | liable | !non-free |
| 03:00.36 | dpkg | i guess non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.htm |
| 03:00.39 | maher | electron_: man sources.list |
| 03:00.39 | ke6isf | electron_: join #flood and paste your sources.list. |
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| 03:00.59 | Heimidal | when setting up a new private nameserver, is there anything I need to do beyond binding name 'ns1.domain.com' to the IP given to me by the ISP? |
| 03:01.11 | electron_ | where is the list? |
| 03:01.18 | ke6isf | electron_: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:01.30 | ke6isf | Heimidal: Yeah, you need to set up a zone file. |
| 03:01.39 | liable | electron_: apt-get install debian-reference-en |
| 03:01.53 | ke6isf | Heimidal: Are you looking to set up your own DNS? |
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| 03:02.43 | ke6isf | electron_: OK, you see all those lines that are not commented and end in 'main'? |
| 03:02.54 | deitarion | What's the name of the on-connect script for pppd? I've only used the OpenBSD one. |
| 03:03.08 | Heimidal | ke6isf: yes.. I've got bind installed along with webmin and there is an an A entry in the zone for both of the nameservers binding them to the IPs. that's all I've done, however. what else do I need? |
| 03:03.09 | liable | pon |
| 03:03.18 | jobezone | but doesn't it exist a free rar package? |
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| 03:03.32 | ke6isf | Heimidal: You need a copy of DNS and BIND from O'Reilly Books, that's what else you need. =O.o= |
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| 03:03.40 | deitarion | jobezone: There is a GPLed Unrar, but I believe it doesn't support RAR 3.x compression. |
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| 03:03.54 | liable | jobezone: yes, but it doesnt do the newer format iirc |
| 03:04.03 | Heimidal | ke6isf: well, I don't exactly have the time or money for that :P |
| 03:04.04 | dondelelcaro | yes, it's unrar-free... |
| 03:04.05 | electron_ | ke6isf, which lines does it go one |
| 03:04.06 | deitarion | However, unrar without rar is freeware. |
| 03:04.08 | electron_ | on |
| 03:04.23 | jobezone | that's it, unrar-free |
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| 03:04.37 | ke6isf | electron_: All of them. For each in ends in 'main', replace 'main' with 'main contrib non-free'. Save and exit, then 'apt-get update'. |
| 03:04.45 | Azar | Heimidal, you need to setup your DNS with your ISP if they allow you |
| 03:04.45 | jobezone | What's so special about rar 3.x that everybody's using it... |
| 03:04.56 | dondelelcaro | jobezone: in the future, apt-cache search; would have found it for you... /msg dpkg search; |
| 03:05.06 | deitarion | Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought "pon" was the command you typed to connect. |
| 03:05.06 | Heimidal | Azar: by ISP, I meant our colo provider |
| 03:05.09 | shift | Okay, this one's kinda dumb, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to boot without loading xdm... |
| 03:05.10 | ke6isf | jobezone: Two words: 'bleeding edge'. |
| 03:05.16 | liable | its teh l33t for da w43z |
| 03:05.19 | Azar | Heimidal, yes |
| 03:05.27 | shift | And I can't remove xdm without removing x-window-system for some reason. |
| 03:05.50 | jobezone | dondelelcaro, I wasn't sure if it existed, that's why I asked. But true, I could also have asked apt :) |
| 03:05.52 | ke6isf | shift: /msg dpkg drxx, and it should present you with an auto-start option. |
| 03:05.52 | Azar | shift I had same problem |
| 03:05.57 | dondelelcaro | shift: x-window-system is just a meta package; removing it is no big deal. |
| 03:05.57 | ryon | shift: there's a tool called rcconf or something like that |
| 03:05.57 | Azar | !no dm |
| 03:06.06 | ryon | you can just disable xdm from loading |
| 03:06.14 | nkuttler | Azar: nodm |
| 03:06.18 | liable | shift: its a meta-package |
| 03:06.29 | Azar | !nodm |
| 03:06.29 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 03:06.30 | liable | oh, too slow.. |
| 03:06.35 | Azar | ah :) |
| 03:07.05 | dna_ | what uninstalls .rar |
| 03:07.10 | dna_ | I mean unzips? |
| 03:07.11 | shift | So I don't have to worry about the x-window-system removal, eh? Phew! |
| 03:07.16 | ryon | hrm, I liked my solution. |
| 03:07.19 | ke6isf | dna_: unrar or unrar-free. |
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| 03:07.37 | Warp4 | hi all, was wondering how i can enable imapd after installing uw-imapd? |
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| 03:09.46 | dondelelcaro | Warp4: first off, you probably don't want to run uw-imapd; dovecot or courier work much better. Secondly, it should have installed an initscript to start it itself; simply set up the configuration and start it. |
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| 03:10.47 | lu | hey guys thanks so much for helping me out. apt-get clean rocks |
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| 03:12.28 | Warp4 | dondelelcaro setting up cyrus now |
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| 03:13.33 | electron_ | Is there anyway I can crack the password on a .rar? |
| 03:13.46 | electron_ | why the fuck would someone put a password on it! |
| 03:13.53 | electron_ | it's an album |
| 03:13.56 | liable | electron_: why the fuck are you asking here? |
| 03:14.07 | electron_ | because it's a linux command |
| 03:14.08 | DoppelGanger | ah ah |
| 03:14.11 | DoppelGanger | wtf |
| 03:14.15 | DoppelGanger | mwa ha ah |
| 03:14.15 | sussudio | electron_: die |
| 03:14.23 | electron_ | don't be a fag |
| 03:14.28 | electron_ | cock |
| 03:14.33 | DoppelGanger | electron_: don't be a fucking idiot |
| 03:14.39 | electron_ | WTF |
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| 03:14.49 | electron_ | I asked a simple question |
| 03:14.50 | electron_ | you fuck |
| 03:14.56 | electron_ | I KNOW |
| 03:14.58 | electron_ | of |
| 03:15.04 | electron_ | some program |
| 03:15.10 | electron_ | seen it in apt sources |
| 03:15.13 | DoppelGanger | sorry channel |
| 03:15.16 | DoppelGanger | didn't mean to curse |
| 03:15.18 | JoshH | electron_: sometimes the people here are kinda cranky for some reason. |
| 03:15.18 | electron_ | so don't give me that shit |
| 03:15.24 | sussudio | DoppelGanger: by all means, curse away |
| 03:15.32 | electron_ | yeah, they need a good smack in the face |
| 03:15.33 | liable | electron_: /j warez |
| 03:16.06 | liable | this a debian support channel, not a fucking warez channel |
| 03:16.18 | electron_ | Yes.. |
| 03:16.26 | electron_ | ANd I need support with debian |
| 03:16.30 | DoppelGanger | translation electron_ you are a homo |
| 03:16.31 | electron_ | rar isn't warez you fuck |
| 03:16.37 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: could you get rid of warezboy? |
| 03:16.41 | electron_ | DoppelGanger, you are terminated! |
| 03:16.53 | electron_ | I IZ VERY IMPRESSED |
| 03:17.03 | DoppelGanger | you need english lessons |
| 03:17.03 | electron_ | BUT MESS WITH THE BEST, DIE LIKE THE REST |
| 03:17.07 | quittt | electron_, calm down... |
| 03:17.07 | DoppelGanger | ha ah |
| 03:17.10 | DoppelGanger | mwa ha ah |
| 03:17.15 | quittt | electron_, or your will fuck yourself |
| 03:17.19 | DoppelGanger | electron_: when did you become the best |
| 03:17.27 | DoppelGanger | electron_: i am very scared right now |
| 03:17.35 | Azar | electron_ no there is no way to crack pasword in a .rar, your question was answered |
| 03:17.35 | quittt | electron_, stop arguing with nerds... be calm and try to read the manual |
| 03:18.01 | electron_ | stupid nerds |
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| 03:18.18 | nkuttler | great, people in #debian calling each other nerds... |
| 03:18.42 | Garda | nkuttler: lol |
| 03:19.10 | DoppelGanger | ha ah |
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| 03:19.24 | Garda | Has anyone here seen thebroken |
| 03:19.36 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 03:19.42 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@203-217-49-9.dyn.iinet.net.au] by dondelelcaro |
| 03:19.43 | sussudio | Garda: what? |
| 03:19.44 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 03:19.53 | sussudio | ktnx |
| 03:19.57 | Warp4 | GAH! |
| 03:20.00 | ryon | thebroken is kind of dumb. |
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| 03:20.13 | ryon | I like ramzi though. |
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| 03:20.25 | Warp4 | ok cyrus is running, but when i go to log ito squirrelmail i get a message saying i am entering the wrong username and password, when i know they are correct. |
| 03:20.34 | sussudio | Garda: you mean SID? |
| 03:21.06 | Garda | sussudio: check out thebroken.org. |
| 03:21.08 | nkuttler | Warp4: sounds like a #squirrelmail question... /usr/share/doc/squirrelmail |
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| 03:21.41 | Elly | what package is traceroute in? |
| 03:21.57 | RoundQube | Garda: thebroken everyone's heard of by now |
| 03:21.58 | underdog | Guys, is anyone aware of an unofficial gnome 2.12 debian build? |
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| 03:22.05 | nkuttler | Elly: /msg dpkg search |
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| 03:22.40 | Elly | aptitude was lying to me :( |
| 03:23.13 | bob2 | no it wasn't |
| 03:23.24 | liable | tells me when i ask it.. |
| 03:24.11 | nkuttler | Elly: surprisingly the package is traceroute |
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| 03:24.28 | Elly | I know |
| 03:24.38 | Elly | it was like '0 packages installed' when I tried 'aptitude install traceroute' |
| 03:24.43 | Elly | so I thought it wasn't in there :\ |
| 03:24.56 | JoshH | probably because you already had it |
| 03:25.01 | nkuttler | Elly: no, you didn't understane the message |
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| 03:25.28 | Elly | yeah |
| 03:25.56 | Garda | when are there going to be pcs running on ibm's cell processors |
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| 03:27.17 | Garda | cos if they are supposed to be like 10 times faster than regular intel pcs then everyone will be using them and because windows doesn't as yet run on cell. eveyone will have to use linux |
| 03:27.42 | wireddd | garda its not that simple |
| 03:27.50 | RoundQube | what are the only OSes running on cell processors? |
| 03:28.29 | liable | great, a mass migration of windows users, a million sundays roll into each other... |
| 03:28.55 | dondelelcaro | Has anything replaced mozex? or is that still the right way to spawn an external editor to edit textareas and the ilk in firefox? |
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| 03:29.34 | phil0u | hello |
| 03:29.55 | Garda | i think ibm asked apple to port osx to cell and they weren't too interested. i read that the ps3 is going to be really easy to run linux under. |
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| 03:30.21 | dondelelcaro | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:31.25 | positrix | Garda: i thought the ps3 would have linux pre-installed on the HD? |
| 03:31.29 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.32 | sussudio | !win me |
| 03:31.34 | dpkg | Congratulations, sussudio! You have won a one way ticket to Charlotte, North Carolina ... YeeHaw!! |
| 03:31.41 | phil0u | i'm having hard times to understand why i can't get xrandr to work. X logs says it's enabled but xrandr says : Xlib extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". Any idea ? thx |
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| 03:32.34 | darkcmd | how hard is it to keep a debian stable machine up to date with the times, and possibly keep using it and not update to the new stable when it comes out |
| 03:32.45 | Garda | positrix: i think you're going to have to buy an extra hard drive or something like that. i don't think that it comes just like that |
| 03:33.05 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: uh, you almost definetly want to update to the new stable within 6 months of its release. |
| 03:33.13 | darkcmd | yeah? |
| 03:33.37 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: yes; otherwise you're pretty much on your own for security updates. |
| 03:33.39 | jbroome | by the time a new stable comes out, the old stable is well... OLD |
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| 03:33.53 | Azar | darkcmd, if you talk about woody the only way to keep it not updated is to use "woody" in the sources.list |
| 03:34.19 | darkcmd | dondelelcaro, crap... slackware supports updates in security for 7.x |
| 03:34.22 | Azar | darkcmd, or, if you use sarge, keep "sarge" in the sources |
| 03:34.40 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: when was 7.x released? |
| 03:34.50 | darkcmd | let me check |
| 03:34.58 | maher | darkcmd: you could volunteer to do security, or pay some one else... |
| 03:35.04 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: if it was released less than 3 years ago, you pretty much don't have an argument. |
| 03:35.21 | dondelelcaro | since there has been security support for woody for longer than that. |
| 03:35.29 | darkcmd | 1999 |
| 03:35.42 | darkcmd | possibly before that |
| 03:35.50 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: when was the last security update for slackware 7.x? |
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| 03:36.04 | phil0u | so no one is using RANDR ? :) google didnt shown any useful answer, or maybe is there a more specific debian channel for those issues ? thanks |
| 03:36.59 | darkcmd | when was woody released? |
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| 03:38.01 | maher | darkcmd: i don't see any security updates for 7 just for 8... |
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| 03:38.21 | darkcmd | ok |
| 03:38.24 | darkcmd | oops :) |
| 03:38.26 | darkcmd | nvm then |
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| 03:38.50 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: woody was released in 2002. |
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| 03:39.14 | darkcmd | so distro releases for debian are usually about 3-4 years |
| 03:39.35 | maher | darkcmd: you have some period of time ( 6 months? ) to upgrade from one stable to the next - this is usually relatively painless... |
| 03:39.49 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: depends; we don't set time schedules for releases. |
| 03:40.03 | darkcmd | dondelelcaro, I mean on average |
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| 03:40.15 | dondelelcaro | darkcmd: there are goals for the release; when they're met and the bugs are fixed, we release. |
| 03:40.19 | darkcmd | maher, could you upgrade painlessly a year later |
| 03:40.48 | cio | Hi all. I'm using postfix and created a UNIX user called 'webmaster'. But the wembaster account won't receive mail, the mail ends up going to /var/mail/nobody. Is there something special that has to be done to give a user a UNIX mailbox? |
| 03:40.52 | maher | darkcmd: yes - but you don't want to sit around without security updates for 6 months |
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| 03:41.04 | darkcmd | true |
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| 03:41.20 | ke6isf | cio: adduser, usually, but all you need to do is map webmaster to root in aliases. |
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| 03:41.54 | ke6isf | cio: Is there a reason you created a separate webmaster account? |
| 03:41.58 | cio | Yea, I got that, but I want a seperate account so I can check it with pop3 (dovecot). Weird, that's all I did was adduser. |
| 03:42.12 | cio | Is webmaster a reserved name somewhere? |
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| 03:42.32 | Heimidal | how do I set the IPs of the NIC card on boot? |
| 03:42.37 | ke6isf | cio: It is one of the canonical names you're supposed to have on a system. I can't remember what RFC dictates that, but it's standard, I think. |
| 03:42.56 | cio | Ahh. Let me try a different name then, thanks. |
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| 03:45.09 | pabs3 | eew, pornbots |
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| 03:45.17 | ke6isf | pabs3: Read the /topic. |
| 03:45.29 | ke6isf | !tell pabs3 -about spambots |
| 03:45.37 | pabs3 | thanks |
| 03:45.40 | cio | Sure nuff, another account worked just fine. |
| 03:46.02 | ke6isf | cio: Groovy. |
| 03:46.02 | cio | Anybody here use postfix virtual alias domains and catch-alls? |
| 03:46.15 | ke6isf | !anybody |
| 03:46.16 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:47.12 | zxsykco | Do you like popcorn dpkg? |
| 03:47.19 | zxsykco | I do! |
| 03:47.24 | zxsykco | Unless you don't! |
| 03:47.34 | zxsykco | Then I don't. |
| 03:48.37 | zxsykco | Nyah! =P |
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| 03:52.28 | mareprost | does anyone know how i can add an all-in-wonder 7500 tv tuner kernel module (phillips module). bttv doesn't seem to support my card, and gatos has support for old versions of xorg and i don't think they would work. i run xorg 6.8.2 |
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| 03:52.41 | darkcmd | I'm considering just constantly tracking testing, is this a bad idea? |
| 03:52.44 | schiros | hi, i'm trying to get xfree86 running on my box, and for some reason, when it loads, all I get are these grey squiggly lines across the screen |
| 03:52.50 | schiros | i think i have my horizontal and vsync set correctly, but i'm on a laptop, so that may be incorrect |
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| 03:54.17 | positrix | schiros: do you have a window manage running? it could be the normal defaul background that you're seeing |
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| 03:54.43 | zeeeee | hi all, i always need to specify -Y when i ssh into my machine for trusted x11 forwarding. adding "ForwardX11Trusted yes" to my ssh config didn't work. what else do i need to do? (see http://rafb.net/paste/results/vbBPGj78.html for what my config looks like) |
| 03:54.46 | schiros | positrix: no, it's garbled text that I can't quit out of. the lines are moving, so it's clearly i display problem, i think |
| 03:55.13 | schiros | a display problem even |
| 03:55.15 | Goldfisch | My system (2.6.13.2 custom/AMD Athlon 64) boots up missing the /dev/ttyS0 etc devices. On a previous boot up, I somehow ran /etc/init.d/setserial, and got them up, but they didn't survive through a reboot. |
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| 03:55.21 | HellDragon | debian |
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| 03:55.48 | Goldfisch | I try /etc/init.d/setserial this time, and all I get is "/dev/ttyS0 doesn't exist.../dev/ttyS1 doesn't exist..." |
| 03:56.35 | HellDragon | ok |
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| 03:56.52 | HellDragon | it's fun , man |
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| 03:57.09 | Alzabar | hi |
| 03:57.10 | shift | Anyone here use vncserver? I cannot for the life of me figure out how to have it load fluxbox on start. It's ignoring my .xinitrc file... |
| 03:57.22 | jobezone | darkcmd, I'm not sure, but I think I read that there would start to exist security support for testing. Previously, I went to unstable because there weren't security updates for testing. was what led me to unstable. |
| 03:57.32 | Goldfisch | zeeee: I tried that setup, but since I was using graphics-intense stuff, I found vnc over ssh more efficient. Here is some info on that option... http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~luo/tightvnc_ssh.html |
| 03:57.39 | kataklsym7413 | hey people, i got pointed at yesterday for asking an ubuntu question, even though it was reasonable, i done you all a favor and installed sarge on my other pc :D |
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| 03:58.21 | tina_m | guys is there anyway to resolve (or force package dependancies) when installing software. (e.g im trying to install wxwindows and then have to install dependancies, and then dependancies of dependancies, and so on!) |
| 03:58.26 | jobezone | Goldfisch, what about freenx ? It uses X's networking display capabilities, which makes it faster. |
| 03:58.43 | ryon | ubuntu is kind of cool. I don't understand why people think it's so "easy" though. It uses the freaking debian installer, which everyone thinks to be "hard". |
| 03:58.46 | pabs3 | whats a good dns cacher for desktop systems? |
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| 03:59.09 | pabs3 | ryon: that was the old debian installer which was hard iirc |
| 03:59.09 | Alzabar | ubuntu dont see my network but debian does |
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| 03:59.29 | ryon | mm... macha |
| 03:59.30 | Goldfisch | jobezone: Is freenx an alternate vnc product? alternate X product? Never heard of it before in my life. |
| 03:59.32 | Alzabar | but I need help getting X on Debian |
| 04:00.26 | ryon | apt-get install x-window-system? |
| 04:01.08 | ryon | I need help with not playing wizardry 8 all goddamn day. |
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| 04:01.35 | pabs3 | ryon: fix some bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 04:01.43 | pabs3 | ;) |
| 04:02.07 | ryon | Hrm, I think I'm too perma-n00b to do that. |
| 04:02.16 | ryon | I'm like a pro-sumer. |
| 04:02.19 | jobezone | Goldfisch, it uses both protocols, VNX and X network protocol. If used to acess a linux computer, it's prefered (i.e. faster) to use the X protocol (which suposedly is fast enough to use in a dial connection), if it's a windows machine, vnc is used. I'm not sure I got the terms right, but anyway the homepage is at http://freenx.berlios.de/ |
| 04:02.56 | Goldfisch | pabs3: Yikes! Call the Orkin man!!! |
| 04:03.21 | ryon | I do beat up Suse users though, so that counts as advocacy I think. |
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| 04:03.55 | pabs3 | heheh |
| 04:04.01 | pabs3 | Goldfisch: eh? |
| 04:04.18 | cio | I'm using samba3 as a simple domain controller for my lan. The logon performance is really slow, from the time you enter your password until the time it actually logs you on can be 15-30 seconds. Is this typical for samba? Anyone had luck using it as a simple domain controller? I'm also using it as a WINS server. |
| 04:04.26 | pabs3 | oh, google says pest control |
| 04:05.00 | cio | My clients are XPsp2 |
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| 04:05.24 | Goldfisch | pabs3: Well, that bug report you posted. I clicked on it. The bugs are taking over the world! |
| 04:06.00 | ryon | US- Centric joke. Flag on the play. |
| 04:06.21 | Goldfisch | jobezone: I skimmed through that website. Interesting. We'll have to see. I see X and vnc as solving two different types of problems. |
| 04:06.55 | Goldfisch | jobezone: We use vnc to drive remote workstations at a backup facility during cutover while the replacement team flies up there to man it. |
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| 04:08.15 | Goldfisch | jobezone: X seemed pretty slow over the WAN connection, but vnc configured to only send changes instead of EVERYTHING was pretty efficient. |
| 04:08.17 | Thaiger | I did an apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27 but when I try to bunzip the file it says its corrupt |
| 04:08.31 | jobezone | Goldfisch, actually it's the X protocol plus compression, so it's faster than normal X operations. |
| 04:08.46 | Guerin | Thaiger: delete it and download again |
| 04:08.48 | zeeeee | hi all, i always need to specify -Y when i ssh into my machine for trusted x11 forwarding. adding "ForwardX11Trusted yes" to my ssh config didn't work. what else do i need to do? (see http://rafb.net/paste/results/vbBPGj78.html for what my config looks like) |
| 04:08.49 | nkuttler | cio: you may want to ask in #samba, and it is slow |
| 04:08.57 | Thaiger | Guerin: Did that about 5 times now |
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| 04:09.14 | By-Tor | Man, installing windows 98 under qemu is pretty slow. |
| 04:09.16 | Guerin | Thaiger: what specific error do you get? |
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| 04:09.23 | cio | nkuttler: I did, nobody seems to be monitoring. So it is slow? (sigh) that sucks. I was hoping to use it as a perm solution. |
| 04:09.28 | Goldfisch | jobezone: That sounds good to me. The sources I red actually recommend running VNC over SSH, because the encryption algorithm does pre-compression phase itself. Getting that into the X protocol would be great improvement. |
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| 04:09.45 | mouse11 | Hey anyone out there that can help a poor moron? |
| 04:09.51 | jobezone | Goldfisch, as far as I understood, X sends messages to the client X, which then draws what is requested. With compression of the data sent, they managed to make it a lot faster than anything that was available before. |
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| 04:09.52 | nkuttler | cio: get the samba-doc package and read it... are you profiles like really really big? |
| 04:10.02 | cio | I'm not using profiles ... |
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| 04:10.08 | ryon | mouse11: don't ask to ask. Just ask your question... |
| 04:10.09 | Guerin | Goldfisch: ssh doesn't do compression unless you tell it to |
| 04:10.11 | alistair | Hey what are the programs called in gnome for system moniters (eg how much memory is in use etc) |
| 04:10.12 | Thaiger | Guerin: Data Integrity Error while Decompressing. It is possible the file has become corrupted |
| 04:10.34 | Guerin | Thaiger: check the hash against what packages.debian.org says |
| 04:10.35 | ryon | alistair: Gkrellm? |
| 04:10.40 | alistair | sounds good |
| 04:10.52 | cio | In my Windows 2000 domain, when I hit enter after putting in my password, it authenticates immediately and logs me in, in samba it seems like a long pause and eventually logs me in. |
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| 04:11.12 | darkcmd | Would you guys recommend just tracking debian testing |
| 04:11.33 | Guerin | darkcmd: in preference to what? |
| 04:11.45 | Guerin | cio: #samba |
| 04:11.47 | darkcmd | for a desktop user |
| 04:11.55 | darkcmd | instead of running sarge |
| 04:11.56 | mouse11 | Ok I need some help setting up this dumb webserver... I got lost from the installation.. I'm not sure how to setup the DNS and I keep getting Hostname is incorrect, and something about FQDN |
| 04:12.01 | alistair | gkrellm isnt that nice :! |
| 04:12.10 | Guerin | darkcmd: testing should be ok. Stable is safer. |
| 04:12.24 | jobezone | Goldfisch, I've tested freenx to acess my linux machine from a windows computer, and was very impressed. In the real life, I have no use of it, though :) |
| 04:12.26 | darkcmd | what would you recommend me running |
| 04:12.31 | Guerin | darkcmd: stable. |
| 04:12.44 | alistair | guerin, do you live in texas? |
| 04:12.52 | Guerin | alistair: nope. |
| 04:12.58 | darkcmd | and just updating when etch goes stable? |
| 04:12.58 | alistair | oh ok, my uncle has your name |
| 04:13.16 | Guerin | darkcmd: yeah. |
| 04:13.27 | Thaiger | Guerin: Where do I find the hash? I went to packages.debian.org/kernel-source-2.4.27 but I don't find the has. I looked in the dsc but it has the hash for a tar.gz file |
| 04:13.29 | darkcmd | is it possible to mix testing and stable |
| 04:13.33 | ryon | freenx for windows? wow. do they have it for macOS as well? |
| 04:13.54 | mouse11 | Looking for some help setting up DNS for a webserver |
| 04:13.56 | ryon | yes, they do. sweet. |
| 04:13.57 | Guerin | Thaiger: huh, no hash for the bz2? |
| 04:14.05 | alistair | www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/22765-1.png what are the name(s) for them programs at the bottem of that desktop? |
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| 04:14.19 | Guerin | mouse11: don't run your own dns, use your registrar or host's. |
| 04:14.29 | Thaiger | Guerin: Not that I can find |
| 04:14.37 | ryon | alistair: lgn |
| 04:14.40 | alistair | mousell: do you have a router or modem or both? |
| 04:14.44 | alistair | thanks! |
| 04:14.55 | Guerin | Thaiger: that error you get trom tar/bzip2, right? |
| 04:15.07 | ryon | alistair: no, by lgn I meant "link goes nowhere". |
| 04:15.20 | ryon | ie your gnome-look link gave me a 404\ |
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| 04:15.29 | alistair | ah lmao, hold on |
| 04:15.29 | tbm_ | hello :) |
| 04:15.35 | Thaiger | Guerin: yes |
| 04:15.38 | alistair | i cant copy and paste it you in epic4 |
| 04:15.42 | jobezone | darkcmd, if you're not content to staying with sarge, I would recommend Unstable, knowing that sometimes it lives up to its name :) although it should be rare for grave problems to appear. |
| 04:15.43 | alistair | let me get in a better irc client |
| 04:15.46 | Thaiger | Guerin: The only hash I can find is for the source packages |
| 04:15.53 | Guerin | Thaiger: download the package manually from p.d.o |
| 04:16.02 | Guerin | Thaiger: also check the BTS. |
| 04:16.04 | m4k0 | alistair: use cp and past rafb.net |
| 04:16.10 | alistair | name some irc linux clients for me please |
| 04:16.14 | alistair | apart from epic4 |
| 04:16.23 | alistair | GUI interface |
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| 04:16.23 | m4k0 | xchat |
| 04:16.25 | m4k0 | bitchx |
| 04:16.25 | Guerin | !best irc client |
| 04:16.26 | dpkg | it has been said that irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
| 04:16.26 | m4k0 | irssi |
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| 04:16.29 | alistair | thanks |
| 04:16.35 | Guerin | oh |
| 04:16.37 | Guerin | gui interface |
| 04:16.39 | m4k0 | !version m4k0 |
| 04:16.40 | m4k0 | lol |
| 04:16.40 | alistair | xchat, thats the one... |
| 04:16.41 | m4k0 | =D |
| 04:16.46 | alistair | =D! |
| 04:16.48 | kuraiten | My cdrom drive cant be found |
| 04:16.50 | Guerin | xterm -e irssi |
| 04:16.50 | m4k0 | xchat is nicer i think =D |
| 04:16.58 | m4k0 | i use aterm |
| 04:16.59 | ryon | I just use BitchX |
| 04:17.00 | m4k0 | :D |
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| 04:17.06 | alistair | kurai ten, mount it |
| 04:17.06 | m4k0 | i use everything |
| 04:17.17 | kuraiten | how do I do that |
| 04:17.27 | ryon | right now I'm using some POS called Colloquy on my pb, though. |
| 04:17.28 | Guerin | jobezone: don't recommend unstable, ever, to anyone. |
| 04:17.31 | alistair | Hey guys, i have the non steam counter strike with patch to 1.3 in an iso, im willing to send it off my P4 Laptop to you ;) |
| 04:17.34 | m4k0 | anybody know of a good manual for securing debian :D |
| 04:17.45 | m4k0 | alistair: sure |
| 04:17.49 | alistair | on the website they have some |
| 04:17.49 | m4k0 | i just need the cdkey :D |
| 04:17.51 | Guerin | jobezone: if you MUST recommend something other than stable, recommend testing. |
| 04:18.01 | m4k0 | alistair: i need the cdkey |
| 04:18.07 | m4k0 | alistair: and i can reg to steam |
| 04:18.08 | m4k0 | =D |
| 04:18.12 | m4k0 | i dont have one :( |
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| 04:18.16 | jobezone | Guerin, Isn't that actually worse, as security fixes take longer to enter testing than unstable? |
| 04:18.17 | m4k0 | i like cs but i cant buyz |
| 04:18.19 | alistair | m4k0: you can get a half life one off crackspider, it doesnt work with wine, you will need to torrent cedega, i ahvent tried point 2 play |
| 04:18.20 | alistair | no no no. |
| 04:18.26 | alistair | steam doesnt work with wine etc anymore |
| 04:18.34 | m4k0 | oh.. |
| 04:18.36 | m4k0 | crackspider ? |
| 04:18.40 | alistair | but i have the non steam version from my friends disc when he got it back in 1999, we lan all the time |
| 04:18.46 | Guerin | jobezone: that is true, but it also doesn't break horribly. |
| 04:18.48 | gobeavs | does anyone know of a non-interactive email app? So I can send email in a script. |
| 04:18.52 | m4k0 | alistair: does it come with cdkey |
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| 04:18.55 | alistair | brb |
| 04:19.00 | mouse11 | I need some help setting up the hostname and FQDN anyone able to help? |
| 04:19.00 | liable | err, theres security for etch now.. |
| 04:19.01 | m4k0 | without a cdkey you dont have nothing -_- |
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| 04:19.17 | alistair | m4k0, i'll get you one but you cant play online, it wont work |
| 04:19.18 | Guerin | jobezone: unless you're prepared to provide exclusive support to people when their machines break, which they eventually will, don't be recommending unstable. |
| 04:19.29 | m4k0 | i need to play online what is the point of cs without online -_- |
| 04:19.31 | alistair | but you can lan on it with linux B) |
| 04:19.32 | Guerin | gobeavs: mailx |
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| 04:19.39 | m4k0 | oh |
| 04:19.41 | Guerin | m4k0: we don't care. |
| 04:19.44 | m4k0 | i dont have friends in the middle of hawaii |
| 04:19.45 | m4k0 | ._. |
| 04:19.45 | jobezone | liable, true, with that "fixed" It's easier for me to prefer it over unstable. |
| 04:19.48 | gobeavs | Guerin: thanks, I'll check it out |
| 04:19.48 | alistair | m4k0,. dude! cs rocks on a lan with linux working on it |
| 04:19.51 | jobezone | Guerin, ok |
| 04:19.53 | m4k0 | yea |
| 04:19.53 | Guerin | m4k0: this is not a warez channel. |
| 04:19.59 | alistair | it is now |
| 04:20.00 | alistair | >:D |
| 04:20.01 | m4k0 | why are you telling me this Guerin ? |
| 04:20.06 | ryon | I got da quake beta |
| 04:20.09 | m4k0 | alistair: was the one who mentioned it :D |
| 04:20.12 | Guerin | m4k0: because you appear not to realise. |
| 04:20.13 | alistair | =D |
| 04:20.14 | ryon | PM me for infoz |
| 04:20.24 | m4k0 | oh ? |
| 04:20.26 | alistair | IM OFFERING XDCC CHANNEL BUT FOR WAREZ HALF LIFE |
| 04:20.27 | alistair | XD |
| 04:20.32 | m4k0 | stfu fag |
| 04:20.32 | ryon | heheh |
| 04:20.34 | alistair | that should annoy some people |
| 04:20.37 | m4k0 | ! |
| 04:20.42 | alistair | :] |
| 04:20.46 | Guerin | alistair: feel like a ban? |
| 04:20.46 | Gu3rin | stop it |
| 04:20.47 | alistair | XD. |
| 04:20.49 | Gu3rin | stop it alistair |
| 04:20.52 | liable | alistair: stop being an idiot please. |
| 04:20.56 | alistair | sure thing |
| 04:20.57 | Gu3rin | ok |
| 04:20.58 | darkcmd | does testing break often? |
| 04:21.07 | Azar | get them out of the channel please |
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| 04:21.13 | Guerin | darkcmd: not often. |
| 04:21.22 | darkcmd | if it does, is it really easy to fix |
| 04:21.25 | Gu3m4k0 | >:D |
| 04:21.27 | Guerin | darkcmd: not always. |
| 04:21.32 | Thaiger | Guerin: I downloaded the deb manually, the hash was fine for that, installed it then tried to bunzip the resulting file, still says corrupt |
| 04:21.38 | darkcmd | like how hard does it get some times |
| 04:21.45 | Guerin | Thaiger: what branch of debian? |
| 04:21.52 | ryon | this channel is on a collision course with wackiness all of a sudden. |
| 04:21.53 | Thaiger | Guerin: Sarge |
| 04:22.01 | jobezone | darkcmd, it shouldn't ever break, as a number of automatic check's are made to packages before being allowed to move to testing (from unstable) |
| 04:22.10 | Guerin | darkcmd: if you have to ask, you need to use stable. |
| 04:22.13 | greenteapowder | quake,doom,half-life... those just are expensive test programs |
| 04:22.26 | Guerin | Thaiger: pure sarge? what packagename again? |
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| 04:22.29 | m4k0 | i still use debian 1.0 |
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| 04:22.38 | Guerin | m4k0: there was no debian 1.0 |
| 04:22.42 | Guerin | you fucking imbecile |
| 04:22.50 | m4k0 | dude stfu yes there was |
| 04:22.52 | Thaiger | Guerin: Don't know about pure sarge, but I'm trying to use kernel-source-2.4.27 |
| 04:22.58 | dondelelcaro | well, there was something that was labeled as 1.0, but it wasn't a real release. |
| 04:22.59 | Guerin | Helpless: don't message me |
| 04:23.02 | Azar | Guerin he is not here for debian help, he is here to troll |
| 04:23.06 | darkcmd | if I compile a vanilla kernel, it will have the modules that the debian kernel leaves out |
| 04:23.09 | Guerin | Azar: i'm aware of this |
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| 04:23.18 | Thaiger | Guerin: I've had those sources for a while, but I accidently messed it up, so I thought I'd get it again |
| 04:23.24 | m4k0 | Azar: lol.. i wasnt here to troll.. |
| 04:23.34 | mareprost | are gainward tv tuners suported by debian? i'm really skeptic as they implement hardware mpeg... |
| 04:23.43 | Azar | m4k0 go back to homoarmy, leave us alone |
| 04:23.44 | Helpless | Looking for help setting up DNS.. Hostname and FQDN |
| 04:23.52 | m4k0 | Azar: came here to ask about securing debian, and Guerin has to stick his nose in someone elses buisness without understand the whole situation |
| 04:23.58 | alistair | whats purple and mows the lawn? |
| 04:24.19 | nkuttler | m4k0: /msg dpkg securing debian |
| 04:24.26 | alistair | my nigga, i'll paint him whatever colour i want |
| 04:24.28 | Guerin | m4k0: you were talking about how to get a cd-key so you could play counterstrike. that's not debian. |
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| 04:24.29 | liable | jesus.. tard day.. |
| 04:24.41 | m4k0 | Guerin: i told u before i was playing with alistair |
| 04:24.51 | Guerin | m4k0: sure you were, pal. |
| 04:24.53 | liable | heh, dondelelcaro must have been poised ready for that one :) |
| 04:24.57 | dondelelcaro | m4k0: that has nothing to do with #debian at all. |
| 04:25.00 | m4k0 | i already have CS i dont need another one. |
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| 04:25.45 | martman | anyone know why x11vnc would just hang? |
| 04:26.03 | ryon | Hey, I was wondering if anyone could teach me how to aim my desert eagle? I keep getting pwnt. This is debian related, I swear. |
| 04:26.05 | martman | (i know its not finished sicne i cant VNC into it) |
| 04:26.12 | Guerin | Thaiger: which specific version? kernel-source-2.4.27 2.4.27-10? |
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| 04:26.35 | Thaiger | Guerin: I just did apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27 |
| 04:26.43 | HAMM3R | How can i make mbmon be able to be run by a user other than root? |
| 04:26.46 | Thaiger | Guerin: umm... p.d.o says its 2.4.27-111 |
| 04:26.51 | Thaiger | 2.4.27-11 |
| 04:26.54 | Guerin | ok. |
| 04:26.57 | ryon | heh, I just like pressing my luck. And dumb jokes. |
| 04:28.33 | m4k0 | hi Guerin |
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| 04:32.44 | Guerin | !info kernel-source-2.4.27 sarge |
| 04:32.50 | dpkg | kernel-source-2.4.27: (Linux kernel source for version 2.4.27 with Debian patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.4.27-10 (sarge), Packaged size: 30295 kB, Installed size: 30424 kB |
| 04:32.59 | Guerin | Thaiger: you're not running sarge. |
| 04:33.08 | m4k0 | Linux bonenet 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 04:33.20 | Thaiger | Guerin: I thought I was....How do I figure out what I am running? |
| 04:33.25 | Guerin | m4k0: could you explain why we might give a fuck? |
| 04:33.27 | m4k0 | type uname -a |
| 04:33.30 | Guerin | Thaiger: why don't you know? |
| 04:33.34 | m4k0 | Thaiger: type /exec -o uname -a |
| 04:33.39 | Guerin | m4k0: stop. |
| 04:34.41 | Thaiger | Guerin: I thought I did, I had a broken system a while ago, and so I did the dist-upgrade to sarge |
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| 04:35.20 | Guerin | Thaiger: paste your sources.list and the output os cat /etc/debian_version; and dpkg -l libc6; to paster |
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| 04:36.30 | Thaiger | Guerin: I'm sorry, paster? |
| 04:36.43 | Guerin | !paster |
| 04:36.43 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 04:39.29 | csheppard | what is a good dvd player |
| 04:39.43 | dondelelcaro | csheppard: xine or mplayer. |
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| 04:39.48 | Guerin | csheppard: xine and vlc are supposed to be good |
| 04:39.50 | Thaiger | Guerin: http://channels.debian.net/paste/774 |
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| 04:40.27 | dondelelcaro | Thaiger: you're running testing |
| 04:40.27 | csheppard | have u heard of videoland |
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| 04:40.49 | dondelelcaro | it's not packaged in Debian, sono. |
| 04:40.50 | Guerin | Thaiger: you're running testing, aka etch. Remove all the lines from your sources.list which say 'stable' |
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| 04:41.04 | Guerin | csheppard: videolan, aka vlc |
| 04:41.28 | dondelelcaro | ah.. hadn't seen vlc before... |
| 04:41.42 | Thaiger | Guerin: OK, did that |
| 04:41.43 | Guerin | Thaiger: and file a bug against kernel-source-2.4.27-11 |
| 04:42.02 | csheppard | my friend put it on my comp but will only show the dvd menu thats it |
| 04:42.13 | Guerin | Thaiger: nothing much you can do, now. If you still want a source package, -10 works. |
| 04:42.23 | Guerin | !dvd |
| 04:42.23 | dpkg | well, dvd is use xine, vlc or ogle (or okle for KDE) to play video DVDs, or ask me about decss |
| 04:42.52 | nvz | Guerin: I didnt fuck it up I appended it to refer to the marillat key factoid |
| 04:43.02 | Guerin | nvz: and now it doesn't work |
| 04:43.06 | Guerin | !marillat |
| 04:43.14 | nvz | !literal marillat |
| 04:43.15 | dpkg | marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 04:43.23 | Guerin | see? |
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| 04:43.32 | nvz | maybe the unmatched > could be it, dondelelcaro ? |
| 04:43.40 | csheppard | k |
| 04:44.14 | dondelelcaro | what about it? |
| 04:44.30 | Entranced | Hello people |
| 04:44.30 | dondelelcaro | oh, you mean the fact that it's eating the factoid |
| 04:44.33 | nvz | dondelelcaro: the factoid wont display after I appended it |
| 04:44.35 | Thaiger | Guerin: Bah, this whole thing started with trying to get DRI to work with my radeon |
| 04:44.44 | csheppard | im on my friends comp right now without using apt how do i install a dvd player if i put it on a cd |
| 04:44.51 | csheppard | im new to debian |
| 04:45.00 | Thaiger | Guerin: So, I probably switched to etch when I did the dist-upgrade before? |
| 04:45.22 | Guerin | Thaiger: right. |
| 04:45.45 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's really weird. |
| 04:45.53 | nkuttler | csheppard: what are you talking about? |
| 04:45.54 | nvz | yep I didnt know I fucked it up |
| 04:45.56 | Guerin | csheppard: you need to use apt. Talk to your friend, whose computer it is. |
| 04:46.14 | Entranced | I've been having major problems with Sid since the upgrade to 2.6.12 kernel... My X is not starting anymore and I can't figure out what is going on.. I suspect udev, since my /dev/input devices are not being initialised |
| 04:46.18 | Thaiger | Guerin: OK thanks a lot for all the help |
| 04:46.54 | csheppard | the comp im on right now has windows my comp is back at my house and i dont have internet right now |
| 04:46.56 | Guerin | Thaiger: have fun with your shiny new stuff! |
| 04:47.41 | nkuttler | csheppard: that's not a question. what do you mean by install a dvd player? |
| 04:48.05 | nvz | dpkg marillat =~ s/apt >= 0.6/(apt >= 0.6)/ |
| 04:48.05 | dpkg | that doesn't contain 'apt >= 0.6', nvz |
| 04:48.25 | nvz | I think its that unmatched > for some reason |
| 04:48.31 | csheppard | i need a player to watch my dvds |
| 04:48.31 | nvz | wont even chage it |
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| 04:48.37 | csheppard | like mplayer |
| 04:48.38 | Entranced | When I boot 2.6.11 kernel which doesn't use udev I don' seem to have any issues with X |
| 04:48.48 | nkuttler | csheppard: what is your _question_? |
| 04:49.08 | nvz | I dont know why its even interpreting those chars if thats the reason |
| 04:49.08 | Entranced | Does anyone have any suggestions ? |
| 04:49.27 | john | anybody know a "minimal" gui irc client? |
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| 04:50.10 | csheppard | ok i have a dvd drive but i need a player to watch the dvds |
| 04:50.18 | nkuttler | csheppard: install mplayer or xine |
| 04:50.29 | nvz | ah someone is fucking with it in /msg |
| 04:50.30 | liable | Entranced: roll it back and put it on hold, although its supposed to work with 2.6.12, check bts for the whole story |
| 04:50.31 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.35 | csheppard | how do i install the program if i put it on a cd |
| 04:50.41 | nkuttler | csheppard: vls even |
| 04:50.50 | Thaiger | Guerin: Never filed a bug report before, what severity do I give it? |
| 04:50.57 | nkuttler | csheppard: that's kind of complicated... |
| 04:51.08 | maher | Entranced: stick with the ones that work |
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| 04:51.25 | nkuttler | csheppard: go to packages.debian.org, chose a player, get all dependencies? not even a modem? |
| 04:51.38 | Entranced | Hey liable |
| 04:51.38 | nkuttler | csheppard: man dpkg, dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 04:51.52 | liable | Entranced: didnt we go through this already.. ? |
| 04:51.55 | maher | Thaiger: normal |
| 04:51.56 | Entranced | yup |
| 04:52.02 | nvz | dondelelcaro: you still working on it? would digging out my modification string help any? |
| 04:52.03 | Guerin | Thaiger: read the instructions. Use bugreport. |
| 04:52.05 | csheppard | i dont have any kind of internet |
| 04:52.05 | shift_ | Anyone care to assist with unzipping some GKRellm skins? I've got the tarball, now I want to know, where do they go, and how do you untar multiple .tgz's? |
| 04:52.14 | csheppard | i dont even have a phone |
| 04:52.16 | Entranced | I tried to remove udev and dpkg -i older version... |
| 04:52.19 | nkuttler | csheppard: :( |
| 04:52.32 | Guerin | Thaiger: since it renders the package unusable, serious or above is probably appropriate. Make sure to check there's no bug listed already. |
| 04:52.35 | Thaiger | Guerin: Doing that, but since theres only one file in the package and it doesn't work I guess it breaks the package |
| 04:52.36 | csheppard | i know it sucks |
| 04:52.38 | Entranced | the thing is that it aptitude wants to remove whole gnome with it |
| 04:52.42 | Guerin | Thaiger: right. |
| 04:52.54 | liable | Entranced: no, dpkg -r it.. |
| 04:52.58 | dondelelcaro | nvz: I know what the string is already; I'm just not sure why it's failing. |
| 04:53.16 | Entranced | I'll give that a try |
| 04:53.19 | Entranced | thnx |
| 04:53.29 | dondelelcaro | nvz: that whole codebase is insane.. |
| 04:53.49 | liable | Entranced: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317332 for the whole sordid story :) |
| 04:54.01 | Entranced | I'v eread it many times :) |
| 04:54.13 | liable | Entranced: the resolved one? |
| 04:54.15 | Entranced | I was looking for the same bug that I'm experiencing |
| 04:54.46 | csheppard | whats a good site to goto to for someone new to linux |
| 04:55.21 | Entranced | liable: I'm running Sid with 0.070-2 version |
| 04:55.23 | liable | csheppard: start with debian-reference, tldp.org, and debian.org |
| 04:55.29 | shift_ | How would one untar twenty or so .tgz files without typing in all the filenames? |
| 04:55.40 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I was thinking maybe it was something in the way I said "dpkg, marillat =~ s#.fr/#.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>#" |
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| 04:55.54 | liable | Entranced: i am running quite happily with 6.0-1 with .12 and .11 and .8 kernels.. |
| 04:55.57 | nkuttler | shift_: for a in *tgz; do tar xvzf $a; done? |
| 04:56.08 | Entranced | liable: I need to try this |
| 04:56.12 | nkuttler | shift_: you may need to quote $a |
| 04:56.21 | Entranced | I've been going crazy for past few days |
| 04:56.53 | csheppard | thanks |
| 04:56.56 | Entranced | I was able to boot to 2.6.12 once before..don't know which udev vers. it was though |
| 04:57.10 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I have no idea whats wrong. I'd like to know so I don't do it again though ;) |
| 04:57.51 | dondelelcaro | nvz: nah, it hass nothing to do with that change... something is freaking out the factoid parser, and need to figure out what it is |
| 04:58.01 | csheppard | i like debian alot better than windows |
| 04:58.09 | shift_ | nkuttler: Would this work? for a in ~/GKrellM-skins/*tgz; do tar xvzf ./$a; |
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| 04:58.51 | Entranced | liable: dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of udev: |
| 04:58.52 | Entranced | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.52 | nkuttler | shift_: no |
| 04:58.53 | shift_ | nkuttler: I'm afraid I know precisely nothing about shell scripting. |
| 04:59.12 | Guerin | shift_: help for |
| 04:59.15 | nvz | dondelelcaro: seems to be triggering on that syntax somehow cause other factoids are still working. have you looked to see if the actual entry in your db matches the literal? |
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| 04:59.23 | liable | Entranced: --force-depends, and downgrade hal too, and prolly alsa shit too... |
| 04:59.32 | Entranced | hehe |
| 04:59.50 | nvz | makes me think somehow that db entry is fucked |
| 05:00.04 | nkuttler | shift_: just try and learn from the mistakes you make |
| 05:00.13 | shift_ | Doin' some research now. |
| 05:00.51 | Entranced | liable: that worked just fine...lemme reboot now and see what's going to happen |
| 05:00.58 | Entranced | thnx |
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| 05:04.11 | nvz | in unrelated news I can't figure out why this tobacco product cupon says valid only for people over 21, when you only have to be 18 do buy the product |
| 05:05.18 | nkuttler | nvz: ask an md or, more probably, a lawyer. |
| 05:05.27 | nvz | heh |
| 05:05.51 | nvz | I already left the lawyers house. its 1am now |
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| 05:06.43 | nvz | also in the news, I found out what my friend had to tell me that she didn't want to tell me on the phone. |
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| 05:07.19 | dondelelcaro | oh, i know what the fuck it is... damn broken ass code |
| 05:07.26 | nvz | heh |
| 05:07.41 | Azar | nvz /me already blushed at that thought |
| 05:07.55 | nvz | Azar: eh? |
| 05:07.55 | Garda | does anyone know when etch will be released |
| 05:08.03 | Guerin | Garda: when it's ready. |
| 05:08.03 | Thaiger | Guerin: OK, one more thing, you said 2.4.27-10 works right? But thats stable isn't it? So I have to add the stable lines back into my sources.list? |
| 05:08.05 | nvz | Garda: whenever its ready |
| 05:08.11 | Dewi | in the "CPU" line of "top", what does "90.6% wa" mean? |
| 05:08.17 | Guerin | Thaiger: just download it manually from packages.debian.org |
| 05:08.24 | Guerin | Dewi: i/o wait |
| 05:08.29 | Thaiger | Guerin: OK, but its still in stable right? |
| 05:08.35 | Guerin | Dewi: a disk is really insanely busy |
| 05:08.37 | nvz | Garda: sarge just released like 3 months ago so it probably wont be anytime soon |
| 05:08.44 | Guerin | Thaiger: stable doesn't change, so yeah. |
| 05:08.45 | Dewi | Guerin: I'm md5ing a directory |
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| 05:08.52 | Thaiger | Guerin: I just thought that would cause problems |
| 05:08.53 | Guerin | Dewi: that'll do it. |
| 05:08.54 | Garda | is the current testing using x.org |
| 05:08.59 | Dewi | Guerin: it does seem kind of slow |
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| 05:09.05 | Guerin | Thaiger: grabbing source from stable won't hurt. |
| 05:09.06 | dondelelcaro | !marillat |
| 05:09.07 | dpkg | marillat is, like, an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 05:09.12 | Guerin | huzzah! |
| 05:09.14 | Dewi | Guerin: windows was far faster md5ing the same dir on the same type of drive on an only marginally faster hardware |
| 05:09.14 | nvz | Garda: it goes more by release critical bugs though see http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 05:09.18 | Thaiger | Guerin: OK Thanks |
| 05:09.30 | Guerin | Dewi: there are many possible issues to think about. |
| 05:09.31 | Thaiger | dondelelcaro: What is with the obsession with marillat tonight? |
| 05:09.34 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: marillat =~ s/greater than/>=/ |
| 05:09.35 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 05:09.40 | dondelelcaro | Thaiger: ? |
| 05:09.53 | nvz | Thaiger: I broke the factoid |
| 05:09.55 | liable | hrm i gotta keep rebooting my stupid router, the wireless slows down for some reason... |
| 05:09.56 | Thaiger | dondelelcaro: I just have seen that like 10 times to night |
| 05:10.03 | Dewi | Guerin: the most obvious one to me (coming from a windows background) is that I might be in PIO mode. Is that likely? |
| 05:10.04 | Thaiger | nvz: ah, just wondering, thanks |
| 05:10.13 | dondelelcaro | Thaiger: yes, that'd be because dpkg was puking on the 'you are' in the factoid |
| 05:10.15 | Guerin | Dewi: possible, sure. |
| 05:10.27 | Guerin | Dewi: check with hdparm |
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| 05:10.40 | nvz | dondelelcaro: what? wtf would it interpret "you are" for? |
| 05:11.23 | dondelelcaro | nvz: http://channels.debian.net/paste/775 |
| 05:12.05 | dondelelcaro | it would just return undef if the factoid contained 'you are' for $DEITY only knows what reason |
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| 05:12.18 | shift_ | I'm having a bit of an issue with a for loop, can anyone assist? I'm attempting to untar multiple .tgz files - Here's what I've got so far: |
| 05:12.19 | shift_ | for i in 'ls ~/GKrellM-skins/'; do 'tar -zxvf ~/GKrellM-skins/$i ./'; don |
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| 05:13.03 | nkuttler | shift_: cd into the dir and use the exact command i gave you earlier |
| 05:13.06 | dondelelcaro | shift_: just find ~/GKrellM-sinks -type f -iname '*.tar.gz' -o -iname '*.tgz' -print0 |xargs -0 -n 1 tar zxf; |
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| 05:13.23 | nvz | dondelelcaro: thats dumb. you mean to tell me I am the first one to use "you are" in a damn factoid? |
| 05:13.24 | nkuttler | or that |
| 05:13.28 | Guerin | shift_: cd ~/GKrellM-skins ; for file in *; do tar zxvf $file ; done |
| 05:13.51 | dondelelcaro | nvz: no, probably not... it's just one of those bugs that no one probably ever noticed since they reverted the change when it got screwed up |
| 05:14.01 | dondelelcaro | !listvals you are |
| 05:14.02 | shift_ | Guerin - Can you not do it without being in that directory? |
| 05:14.04 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'you are' by value (15 of 126): CMD: reduce (.*?) lameness ;; CMD: shun (.*?) ;; air ;; can ;; flashplug ;; fractional t1 ;; i'm a fucking retard ;; kernel version ;; knoppixquestion2 ;; marillat key ;; reseller ;; royharper ;; uber ;; xf86config-4 ;; your. |
| 05:14.25 | dondelelcaro | granted, it had to be ' you are ' |
| 05:14.33 | Guerin | shift_: you can, yeah, but it'd be easier to just move them all out after. |
| 05:14.50 | dondelelcaro | (with spaces, so the 'your' factoid's 'you are' wouldn't trigger it) |
| 05:15.10 | nvz | dondelelcaro: though the marillat key factiod is worded exactly the same and didnt seem to affect it |
| 05:15.13 | kamaraju | Using sid, 3.4.2. When kde starts (ie after logging in and executing startx), it plays a sound file. How can I ask kde to not do this? |
| 05:15.45 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yeah, but it's got <reply> in it, so it doesn't activate that stretch of code |
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| 05:15.56 | nvz | oh |
| 05:16.11 | nvz | dondelelcaro: you file a bug? |
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| 05:16.18 | shift_ | Guerin - I'm trying to learn about shell scripting a bit while I'm here. Can you put a directory in front of the $file? |
| 05:16.34 | shift_ | Like, cd ~/GKrellM-skins ; for file in *; do tar zxvf ~/$file ; done |
| 05:16.40 | dondelelcaro | nvz: I probably should just commit the fix, since I've got CVS access... I just hate wrestling with CVS and sourceforge's cvs server |
| 05:16.46 | nvz | dondelelcaro: or at least hand of the fix to Andrew |
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| 05:17.01 | nvz | dondelelcaro: ah, well if you got access that works |
| 05:17.04 | nkuttler | shift_: god... man tar, man find, man xargs |
| 05:17.15 | nkuttler | shift_: google bash scripting howto |
| 05:17.20 | nvz | dondelelcaro: figure there are lots of other blootbots out there with this problem |
| 05:17.51 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yeah; I really need to find another 48 hours in the day so I can rewrite it to use PoCo::IRC... but I haven't had time. |
| 05:18.02 | nkuttler | shift_: if you are in the directory anyways, why adding a path? |
| 05:18.19 | shift_ | nkuttler - I'm extracting the files without being in that directory. |
| 05:18.29 | chance2105 | Okie dokie .. is there a way to get the UI fonts in firefox / mozilla to look decent on Gnome? |
| 05:18.30 | nkuttler | *plonk* |
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| 05:18.54 | shift_ | I'm in /mnt/a, for example, trying to extract all the .tgz's from /mnt/b |
| 05:18.54 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yeah I know what you mean. days just getting shorter this time of year. not that they are ever long enough. |
| 05:19.17 | Dewi | chance2105: indecent fonts? are they wearing overly revealing clothes or something? |
| 05:19.35 | chance2105 | heh |
| 05:19.55 | nvz | Dewi: maybe none at all. |
| 05:20.06 | mareprost | chance2105: http://bit13.no-ip.com/index.php?d=02&m=09&y=05&category=3 |
| 05:20.08 | chance2105 | Dewi: a capital M just gave me the finger |
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| 05:21.17 | dondelelcaro | are you sure that wasn't a capital ..I. . ? |
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| 05:22.03 | nvz | I guess a piece of code is worth at least as many words if not in some cases more than a picture |
| 05:22.06 | dondelelcaro | or maybe nnDn n would be better... |
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| 05:24.58 | Stricklin | Anybody able to answer questions about planet? |
| 05:25.08 | nvz | which planet? |
| 05:25.15 | Dewi | Guerin: my drive is SATA... hdparm doesn't give me very detailed information |
| 05:25.20 | Stricklin | planetplanet.org |
| 05:25.22 | Dewi | msg dpkg sata |
| 05:25.35 | nvz | I've only visited earth, so I cant really comment on the rest of them |
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| 05:25.52 | kuraiten | Him KDEs font is really big, is there a way to make it smaller? |
| 05:26.00 | Stricklin | Okay, I just thought it was worth asking |
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| 05:27.13 | Jerub | does anyone remember the name of the package that will allow you to see in real-time the images being transferred over the network. |
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| 05:27.30 | Jerub | it's a network sniffing program of some sort, that displays the images in an X window. |
| 05:27.48 | john | Jerub: driftnet? |
| 05:27.55 | Jerub | thats the one! |
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| 05:27.59 | Jerub | I was thinking 'dragnet' |
| 05:28.02 | john | hehe |
| 05:28.26 | Dewi | Jerub: hi |
| 05:28.54 | Jerub | hello |
| 05:29.24 | Jerub | Dewi: I knew you were around here somewhere :) |
| 05:29.25 | nvz | I wanted to do a similar thing.. but I want to learn how to basically say run Gaim on that box then use the bridge thats in promisc mode to easily run say gaim on there to intercept the messages or something. without having to use tcp dump and parse packets.. the traffic already is floating around there and the nics are already in promisc |
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| 05:30.10 | nvz | just learn how to spoof or eavsdrop on different client app traffic or whatever the term for it is |
| 05:30.37 | Jerub | nvz: which gaim protocol? |
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| 05:30.52 | Jerub | nvz: you can sometimes just use ethereal and snarf the right port, and read the datastream |
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| 05:31.05 | renga | someone knows why I can install openoffice.org pakage in amd64 testing? |
| 05:31.07 | nvz | I didnt have one in mind just want to learn to do it in general with any client apps |
| 05:31.16 | renga | can't |
| 05:31.28 | chance2105 | Well, now the webpages look better in firefox .. |
| 05:31.43 | nvz | once I ran yahoo messenger on here and was getting my brothers messages by accident somehow when we were both logged on as different names |
| 05:31.54 | chance2105 | When I say "indecent", I mean the UI font .. they look like something out of bad sci-fi flick |
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| 05:32.14 | nvz | was apperently a router mishap at the time. but I want to learn how to do it properly without disrupting the flow to the right destination |
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| 05:33.14 | chance2105 | I have mod points on slashdot .. I need good UI fonts to use 'em |
| 05:33.19 | chance2105 | :) |
| 05:33.21 | nvz | I got two boxes as a synergy station here to test the shit. and one is bridging its connection to the other so it should be a good setup to do it |
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| 05:35.44 | ke6isf | chance2105: indecent like that weird MICR-like font you see on shows like Buck Rodgers and Space 1999? |
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| 05:41.41 | swappa | hey vorsprung (and guys) ,the guy at 'dick smith electronics said today that wireless was the only way to do that thing too -but that he didn't know much... yeah, I'm totally bummed 4the moment |
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| 05:45.20 | HaNazir | anyone familiar with mutt the e-mail client. How do I add a pop3 account, like gmail? |
| 05:45.26 | nvz | I swear this damn dude on this game keeps calling me "Asshole" in spanish. |
| 05:45.40 | swappa | "haha!" |
| 05:45.50 | ke6isf | nvz: What is the word he's using? |
| 05:45.52 | bob2 | HaNazir: normally you'd use fetchmail or such |
| 05:45.56 | nvz | sounds like he's saying cabrone |
| 05:46.11 | HaNazir | bob2: oh so i need to use both together? |
| 05:46.15 | ke6isf | nvz: Yep. =^_^= |
| 05:46.17 | bob2 | HaNazir: but according to "man muttrc", you can use them directly |
| 05:46.24 | swappa | loL! |
| 05:46.26 | nvz | though he's stressing the first syllable |
| 05:46.33 | ke6isf | nvz: That, or he's very drunk and calling you 'shrimp'. =^_^= |
| 05:46.35 | nvz | I took 5 years of spanish |
| 05:47.15 | chance2105 | oh yeah we have screenshots now: Good Gnome font example: http://chance.freeshell.org/screen1.jpg .. Bad Firefox UI fonts: http://chance.freeshell.org/screen2.jpg |
| 05:47.16 | nvz | thats the word I always used when calling someone an asshole |
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| 05:47.25 | swappa | "cool" means ass-ring, in brazil -if that helps |
| 05:47.30 | swappa | lol |
| 05:47.39 | nvz | heh |
| 05:47.49 | swappa | "cool" |
| 05:48.32 | swappa | i kept saying that when I was working with a brazilian guy and He was fully pissed @ me |
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| 05:49.01 | nullman | i thought it was pronounced "cavrone" |
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| 05:49.13 | chance2105 | I don't know if those UI fonts are something I'll just have to live with .. I do notice they're a "feature" of both firefox and vanilla Mozilla |
| 05:49.24 | ke6isf | The 'v' is generally pronounced as a 'b' if memory serves. |
| 05:49.33 | HaNazir | bob2: but u dont know how to set it up right? |
| 05:50.05 | bob2 | HaNazir: er? |
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| 05:50.24 | nvz | I dont know how to spell in english... and I've been speaking it for like 20 years (about 10 in school learning it). what makes you think I could spell in spanish after only like 10 (about 5 in school learning it) |
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| 05:50.59 | bob2 | HaNazir: set the username and password, then hit it up like you would imap |
| 05:51.05 | cGc | where can i find a good list for my apt sources.list |
| 05:51.33 | streuner | cGc: apt-setup |
| 05:51.35 | bob2 | cGc: you already have one, it came with Debian |
| 05:51.40 | ke6isf | nvz: Oh, well, obviously, if you can speak a language, you can spell it too! </sarcasm> |
| 05:51.50 | HaNazir | bob2: ok i;m clueless i'll read the man :) |
| 05:51.52 | cGc | bob2, yeah but...i want some internet sources i had it use the CD |
| 05:52.01 | bob2 | cGc: apt-setup then, like streuner said |
| 05:52.32 | chance2105 | apt-setup is the shiz |
| 05:52.55 | cGc | bob2, how many do you think i should add? |
| 05:53.25 | ke6isf | cGc: Two, maybe three. |
| 05:53.31 | cGc | k i'll do 3 |
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| 05:53.43 | cGc | see i used gentoo for a while but now im back to debian so i forgot a few things |
| 05:53.43 | ke6isf | cGc: If anything, it's a redundancy for failsafe. |
| 05:54.00 | bob2 | wtf |
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| 05:55.23 | HaNazir | fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified. |
| 05:55.35 | HaNazir | how do i do that? i cant find it in the man. |
| 05:55.50 | cGc | how do i get the latest kernel? can i use apt-get? |
| 05:56.09 | streuner | cGc: why do you think you need the latest? |
| 05:56.17 | bob2 | HaNazir: you need to configure it... |
| 05:56.24 | bob2 | HaNazir: also, as I said, mutt can access pop3 directly now |
| 05:56.35 | HaNazir | bob2: i figured but i dont have fetchmailconf |
| 05:56.38 | cGc | streuner, what is the command to see which kernel i have currently? |
| 05:56.38 | bob2 | if you're going to use fetchmail, fetchmailconf might be useful |
| 05:56.51 | bob2 | if you don't know how to find out what kernel you're using atm, you probably don't need a newer one |
| 05:56.55 | bob2 | (uname -r) |
| 05:57.16 | gaasfet | I just cvs-compiled ALSA over my debian stuff I hope I did not clobber it |
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| 05:59.16 | bcc_ | is there a reason why mawk is installed by default instead of gawk? |
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| 05:59.55 | chance2105 | How do you tell what all packages a package depends on? |
| 06:00.20 | lakcaj | chance2105: apt-cache show packagename? |
| 06:00.21 | HaNazir | bob2: man. how do i setup a pop3 account in mutt? i'm trying all this silly things and nothing. |
| 06:00.40 | HaNazir | bob2: mutt -m specify mailbox type |
| 06:00.45 | bob2 | HaNazir: no |
| 06:01.03 | bob2 | HaNazir: mor like: mutt -f pop3://user@host/ |
| 06:01.39 | HaNazir | bob2: umm. thanx. |
| 06:02.41 | HaNazir | bob2: mutt -f pop3://user:password@host/? |
| 06:02.51 | HaNazir | bob2: or password wont work? |
| 06:03.16 | jessNZ | does anyone know how to share mailboxes between a windows/linux dual-boot system with thunderbird? |
| 06:04.03 | cGc | how do i enable the APT::Force-LoopBreak option? |
| 06:04.11 | nvz | jessNZ: locate them in the same location on a vfat partition |
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| 06:04.33 | nvz | jessNZ: other than that no idea. I dont use email or thunderbird |
| 06:05.04 | jessNZ | nvz: should I make the linux ones links to the windows ones? |
| 06:05.27 | bob2 | HaNazir: should work |
| 06:05.29 | bob2 | cGc: don't |
| 06:05.38 | nvz | jessNZ: only works if its vfat else you cant write to em from linux |
| 06:05.40 | bob2 | cGc: it it's complaining about e2fstools or whatever, it's your fault |
| 06:05.45 | bob2 | cGc: upgrade to sarge before trying to go to sid |
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| 06:06.10 | jessNZ | nvz: yes it's vfat |
| 06:06.27 | cGc | bob2, i have sarge |
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| 06:06.49 | jessNZ | nvz: I just wondered if there would be problems with permissions or something |
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| 06:07.05 | nvz | jessNZ: there arent any :) |
| 06:07.32 | cGc | bob2, so what do i do about the e2fstools error? |
| 06:07.43 | nvz | jessNZ: vfat doesnt have privlages |
| 06:07.48 | jessNZ | nvz: I know and in linus there are and I thought that might be a problem |
| 06:08.49 | cGc | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 06:08.49 | HaNazir | ok i'm not getting this mutt stuff, do i need to creat some kind of mailbox file? |
| 06:08.49 | nvz | jessNZ: not really when you mount the partition you specify which user/group linux will make owner of all files on that partition |
| 06:09.21 | jessNZ | nvz: ok cool so I could give access to all users if I wanted to |
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| 06:09.51 | streuner | cGc: read /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 06:09.59 | nvz | jessNZ: well you could give access to all users belonging to a certain group |
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| 06:10.47 | jessNZ | nvz: thanks for your help, I'll try it out |
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| 06:11.17 | bob2 | cGc: you're not using sarge then |
| 06:11.23 | bob2 | cGc: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood |
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| 06:12.21 | nvz | I am surprised I can be considered any help as tired as I am |
| 06:12.42 | nvz | especially when I havent used email in this millenium |
| 06:13.29 | streuner | nvz: there is another alternative vs. helping here... |
| 06:14.18 | cGc | bob2, its there |
| 06:15.02 | streuner | you said you are tired? |
| 06:15.07 | streuner | You Are! |
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| 06:15.42 | bob2 | cGc: so, the problem is that you have apt pointed at testing, not sarge |
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| 06:15.50 | bob2 | cGc: point it at sarge, dist-upgrade, then go to testing |
| 06:16.20 | nvz | as my little brother would say "no duh, poindexter" |
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| 06:16.32 | cGc | bob2, can i pm? |
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| 06:16.39 | HaNazir | is there a gaim like app for console? |
| 06:16.54 | nvz | HaNazir: irssi + bitlbee |
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| 06:17.15 | nvz | HaNazir: though afaik only supports chats for irc not sure though I havent used it in along time |
| 06:17.19 | HaNazir | nvz: i mean so i can use aol msn and yahoo..possible? |
| 06:17.27 | bob2 | cGc: no |
| 06:17.33 | nvz | !info bitlbee |
| 06:17.38 | dpkg | bitlbee: (An IRC to other chat networks gateway), section net, is optional. Version: 0.92-2 (sid), Packaged size: 309 kB, Installed size: 792 kB |
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| 06:17.39 | bob2 | cGc: please just ask questions in here |
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| 06:17.51 | bob2 | HaNazir: pork is another console IM application |
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| 06:18.10 | nvz | pork is also the other white meat |
| 06:18.19 | cGc | bob2, just change where it says 'Testing' to 'Sarge'? |
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| 06:20.11 | ke6isf | HaNazir: I use pork occasionally, works pretty well and has an IRC like syntax. |
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| 06:20.58 | schiros | I don't have a /dev/psaux or /dev/mice, and I MAKEDIR doesn't seem to work |
| 06:21.07 | schiros | it doesn't error out, but it doesn't actually make the devices |
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| 06:21.32 | bob2 | cGc: sarge, yes |
| 06:21.37 | nvz | I use pork sometimes for breakfast or even dinner. |
| 06:22.05 | lakcaj | schiros: /dev/inpute/mice? |
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| 06:22.23 | schiros | lakcaj: no, /dev/input only has something called event0 in it |
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| 06:22.57 | joeljkp | i need a little help figuring out exim |
| 06:23.06 | ke6isf | joel: Ask away. |
| 06:23.07 | nvz | schiros: are you using udev? do you have input, hid, ... draws a blank |
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| 06:23.35 | schiros | nvz: sorry, but I'm kind of new at this. udev is what? |
| 06:23.40 | cGc | bob2, how do i 'dist-update'? |
| 06:23.45 | joeljkp | well, i have exim4 handling my mail recieving and sending |
| 06:23.47 | bob2 | cGc: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 06:23.54 | nvz | dpkg, udev? |
| 06:23.55 | dpkg | hmm... udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
| 06:23.57 | ke6isf | !tell cGc -about dist-upgrade |
| 06:24.02 | joeljkp | do i also need an imap server to handle remote access for users? |
| 06:24.15 | schiros | let me try that |
| 06:24.17 | ke6isf | joel: If you want them using imap, yeah. |
| 06:24.32 | joeljkp | ke6isf: is there a recommended one? |
| 06:24.47 | ke6isf | joeljkp: 'apt-cache search imapd', pick one. |
| 06:25.12 | cGc | bob2, after the dis-upgrade is finished...then switch the sources.list back to testing? |
| 06:25.14 | joeljkp | ke6isf: the reason i ask is because i looked at courier, and its site mentioned smtp as well |
| 06:25.32 | joeljkp | ke6isf: so it seems like it would be invading on exim's turf or something |
| 06:25.32 | ke6isf | joeljkp: If you want to use courier go for it, but it has a pretty steep learning curve. |
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| 06:26.00 | schiros | nvm: udev isn't installed, so I assume I'm not using it |
| 06:26.02 | bob2 | cGc: yes, and run dist-upgrade again |
| 06:26.05 | ke6isf | joeljkp: FWIW, I use postfox for my MTA, Qpopper for POP3, and uw-imapd for IMAP. |
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| 06:26.12 | ke6isf | s/postfox/postfix |
| 06:26.22 | joeljkp | ke6isf: ok, great, thanks |
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| 06:27.03 | joeljkp | ke6isf: since you seem to know a thing or two about mail, i have a series of users on my server, and i'd like to give them email addresses like 'firstname.lastname@server' |
| 06:27.08 | mlalkaka | hi everyone |
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| 06:27.11 | joeljkp | ke6isf: how would i go about that? |
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| 06:27.56 | ke6isf | joeljkp: Take a gander at /etc/aliases. Your answer lies therein. If you're running exim, check to see if you have to recompile the aliases file when you alter it. |
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| 06:28.12 | joeljkp | ke6isf: cool, thanks a lot |
| 06:28.46 | joeljkp | ke6isf: whoops, one more thing; is there a recommended webmail package? |
| 06:28.51 | ke6isf | joeljkp: I will point out that these will not be logins, they will be mail aliases. If you want to give new users the syntax firstname.lastname, you might be able to do that with adduser - never tried that. |
| 06:29.04 | joeljkp | ke6isf: right, i understand that |
| 06:29.10 | ke6isf | joeljkp: I don't run webmail, but I've seen people use squirrelmail. Again, apt-cache search webmail. |
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| 06:29.25 | joeljkp | ke6isf: thanks for the help, off to set stuff up |
| 06:29.31 | Phated | schiros: Have you checked if your mouse modules are loaded? psmouse, mousedev, etc.? |
| 06:29.32 | ke6isf | joeljkp: No problem. |
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| 06:32.28 | schiros | Phated: how do i tell if they are? an apt-cache search didn't return anything for those two words |
| 06:32.46 | Phated | schiros: lsmod |
| 06:33.19 | arma | does sarge include any mp3 encoders? or were they not stable enough / not free enough? |
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| 06:33.34 | schiros | psmouse is, but mousedev isn't |
| 06:33.50 | bob2 | arma: /msg dpkg lame |
| 06:33.53 | Phated | Try loading it. |
| 06:34.13 | bob2 | arma: mp3 encoding (and decoding, sadly) are allegedly covered by patents owned by Fraunhoffer, who appear to enforce them |
| 06:34.16 | bob2 | (sometimes) |
| 06:34.31 | schiros | Phated: ugh, i hate being stupid, but how do I do that? |
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| 06:34.39 | Phated | schiros: modprobe. |
| 06:34.47 | arma | google points to rarewares (and so does dpkg). i guess it's the patents that kept them out of sarge? whee. |
| 06:35.27 | arma | thanks. maybe one day monty will succeed. |
| 06:35.46 | schiros | Phated: excellent, that created the devices |
| 06:35.52 | litage | i've used tinydns' add-ns, add-mx, add-host, and add-alias commands, but `dnsip somedomain` on the tinydns server returns nothing. any suggestions? |
| 06:35.55 | Phated | schiros: No problem. |
| 06:36.15 | lakcaj | arma: there are plenty of mp3 encoders/decoders available. |
| 06:36.21 | schiros | well, it created the psaux device, but not /dev/mice |
| 06:36.45 | Phated | Well, you have psaux. cat /dev/psaux and move your mouse around. If rubbish appears, you can use it. |
| 06:37.04 | schiros | yeah, tried that |
| 06:37.06 | schiros | no dice |
| 06:37.12 | schiros | it's a touchpad on a laptop |
| 06:37.14 | lakcaj | arma: look at lame, or grip which can rip from from CD to mp3. |
| 06:37.32 | arma | lakcaj: grip seems to want an external encoder. right? |
| 06:37.36 | schiros | and in other distro installs, that's usually where I find it |
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| 06:37.51 | lakcaj | arma: lame |
| 06:37.54 | Phated | Urgh. I've not done laptops. |
| 06:38.04 | arma | yea. ok. so by 'or' you mean 'and'. |
| 06:38.31 | schiros | Phated: but mdetect returns what my mouse is |
| 06:38.35 | lakcaj | well, grip can use various mp3 encoders, AFAIK |
| 06:38.50 | streuner | sure |
| 06:39.04 | Phated | schiros: Ah. If it detects it, you might just want to try using it. |
| 06:39.16 | schiros | even though cat /dev/psaux doesn't output anything? |
| 06:39.27 | Phated | schiros: It can't hurt. :) |
| 06:39.33 | schiros | tru dat |
| 06:40.29 | lakcaj | arma: I don't actually encode myself, I only really listen to shoutcast, but I think lame is pretty much the defacto encoder for linux. |
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| 06:42.43 | schiros_ | yah, no luck on that |
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| 06:44.55 | liable | must be time for a beer.. |
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| 06:46.59 | schiros | argh |
| 06:47.02 | schiros | still nothing |
| 06:47.55 | Phated | Not a clue. :/ You might need something else, but I'm not sure what that might be. |
| 06:48.03 | arma | schiros: thinkpad? dell? |
| 06:48.22 | schiros | arma: hp\ |
| 06:48.40 | arma | oh. is it enabled in the bios? (some laptops have two mouse-like-things) |
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| 06:49.03 | liable | schiros: exactly, and do you know for sure it works? |
| 06:49.10 | schiros | arma: i doubt it. i have a windows partition, adn the mouse works fine there |
| 06:49.14 | arma | on the thinkpad, the trackpad is disabled in linux and you need to use the little nub thing. |
| 06:49.24 | schiros | oh, no, only one mouse here |
| 06:49.30 | arma | i heard rumors of kernel patches that enabled the trackpad on thinkpads. |
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| 06:49.36 | liable | arma: i can use both if i wish |
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| 06:49.55 | arma | (i think they've become kernel modules or something by now. cleaner but still a bit scary.) |
| 06:50.02 | liable | schiros: so paste your xfree config to a paster |
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| 06:50.38 | schiros | liable: i can't get a cat of /dev/psaux to output anything. that's something other than my x config, no? |
| 06:51.15 | arma | but mdetect thinks it's /dev/psaux? |
| 06:51.17 | liable | schiros: can you just paste the file somewhere? right protocol? |
| 06:51.27 | liable | should be psaux.. |
| 06:51.29 | schiros | arma: yeah |
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| 06:52.21 | schiros | liable: umm, i'll try. i gotta figure out how to do it with no gui web |
| 06:52.22 | schiros | brb |
| 06:53.05 | liable | schiros: hrm, try installing gpm for shits and giggles. |
| 06:53.44 | schiros | k |
| 06:53.56 | liable | schiros: and check the xfree log, look for EE /var/log/xfreeblah |
| 06:54.23 | liable | schiros: less /var/log... |
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| 06:56.17 | schiros | ahhh |
| 06:56.17 | schiros | ok |
| 06:56.20 | schiros | so i ran GPM |
| 06:56.29 | schiros | and now psaux outputs something |
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| 06:56.37 | ice_1963 | what is gpm ? |
| 06:56.55 | schiros | some virtual mouse server, apparently |
| 06:56.55 | liable | schiros: make sure protocol is PS2 |
| 06:57.06 | liable | ice_1963: apt-cache show gpm |
| 06:57.09 | schiros | liable: in my xconfig? |
| 06:57.12 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 06:57.14 | liable | schiros: yes |
| 06:57.17 | schiros | k |
| 06:57.42 | billdarrow | I have this nightly job that's very intensive, it involves backing up a number of files from drive to drive (scsi to ide) during which I notice my computer's clock begins to lag, why is this? Is there a way to fix this besides just running ntpd or crontabbing ntpdate more often? |
| 06:58.10 | billdarrow | in fact, the job takes about 30 minutes and my clock becomes desynched by 13 minutes or so on average |
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| 06:59.33 | ice_1963 | mouse lol |
| 06:59.37 | billdarrow | Even more interesting, this didn't used to happen |
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| 07:00.14 | schiros | liable: it was set to ImPS/2 |
| 07:00.32 | ice_1963 | that get's installed with the kernel |
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| 07:03.53 | liable | schiros: less /var/log/XFree86.0.log |grep EE |
| 07:04.02 | billdarrow | hmm |
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| 07:04.50 | billdarrow | the performance of the drives on my ide controller is unusually slow, I wonder if something is botched there, I believe the clock is somewhat related to DMA or something I read a long time ago |
| 07:04.58 | cahoot | billdarrow: outof curiosity - what kernel? apic enabled? |
| 07:05.08 | billdarrow | cahoot: 2.6.6 |
| 07:05.17 | billdarrow | I doubt apic is enabled |
| 07:05.19 | billdarrow | let me check |
| 07:05.34 | liable | where did you get that kernel? what distro? |
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| 07:05.45 | billdarrow | I built this kernel from scratch |
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| 07:06.30 | billdarrow | orion:/usr/src/newlinux/linux-2.6.6# cat .config| grep APIC |
| 07:06.30 | billdarrow | CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y |
| 07:06.30 | billdarrow | # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set |
| 07:06.43 | liable | billdarrow: and what version are you running? upgraded woody or ... |
| 07:06.49 | billdarrow | liable: sid |
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| 07:08.03 | deeLer | how to install an AMD64 netinst on a Dell PowerEdge SC1420 SCSI ??? debian can't find any disk ! help! |
| 07:08.08 | cahoot | billdarrow: checked dma setting? |
| 07:08.22 | billdarrow | cahoot: indeed, according to hdparm they are on udma6 |
| 07:08.27 | billdarrow | cahoot: but i'm suspect |
| 07:08.43 | billdarrow | cahoot: you see, performance on buffered disk reads is slower than i ever remember |
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| 07:09.26 | billdarrow | cahoot: this operation is taking longer than ever before, and the clock is becoming far more desynched than i ever remember |
| 07:09.27 | mlalkaka | how can i check if there are any known problems with the latest debian testing kernel (2.6.12-1)? |
| 07:10.02 | liable | mlalkaka: bts? |
| 07:10.19 | mlalkaka | liable, what's the website again? |
| 07:10.24 | liable | !tell mlalkaka about bts |
| 07:10.40 | billdarrow | I might take this machine down and play around with the cables and stuff, see if i can figure out what the slowness is about |
| 07:10.42 | cahoot | billdarrow: no error msgs in the logs I take it |
| 07:10.49 | billdarrow | cahoot: nada |
| 07:11.14 | mlalkaka | liable, thanks. i'll check it out. i'm having some problems printing to my parallel port printer. it worked fine when i was using an older kernel version. i just hope there's a fix for it :S |
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| 07:11.30 | billdarrow | well, thanks for your help |
| 07:11.43 | billdarrow | i'm going to halt, so i'm getting off IRC now |
| 07:11.46 | billdarrow | later. |
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| 07:13.04 | ice_1963 | i'm running kernel 2.6.12-1 |
| 07:13.36 | ice_1963 | with sid |
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| 07:16.32 | lakcaj | !tell dna_ about marillat |
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| 07:27.17 | mjk64 | mornin |
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| 07:29.10 | my-wife-is-18 | speaking of mp3 encoding, are there any packaged encoder with adaptive mode support?(not vbr) |
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| 07:31.06 | joeljkp | i'm running into trouble trying to allow plaintext imap logins with uw-imapd |
| 07:31.16 | joeljkp | can anyone help? |
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| 07:35.54 | Firefishe | hello |
| 07:37.01 | xophEr | Could someone help me, where can I find my bus, disk and filesystem drivers in menuconfig? Im trying to compile a new kernel.. |
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| 07:37.39 | craigbroz | resiak, aroundp? |
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| 07:38.12 | Firefishe | what is the command for updating dpkg? |
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| 07:38.25 | bob2 | xophEr: asking ubuntu questions in here is not approriate |
| 07:38.25 | Firefishe | to update the database |
| 07:38.37 | liable | heh |
| 07:38.49 | Firefishe | heya liable |
| 07:38.53 | liable | Firefishe: apt-get update |
| 07:39.06 | Firefishe | liable, for dpkg? |
| 07:39.10 | liable | yes |
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| 07:39.15 | Firefishe | thanks |
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| 07:40.23 | Firefishe | just re-installed 3.1, liable...got my network problems solved. |
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| 07:41.00 | Firefishe | gads..compared to suse, 3.1 seems.....somewhat faster |
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| 07:43.43 | wersh | mozilla-mplayer wont install :( |
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| 07:45.02 | deitarion | Does anyone know the name of the rsync-like tool that can synchronize two directories when both of them have changed since they diverged? |
| 07:45.21 | wersh | says 'the following packages have unmet dependencies'.. broken packages.. :/ |
| 07:45.57 | nkuttler | deitarion: unison? |
| 07:46.02 | Guerin | wersh: apt-get -f install; |
| 07:46.09 | wersh | Guerin: done that. |
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| 07:46.35 | Guerin | deitarion: rsync |
| 07:46.35 | deitarion | That's it. Thanks. |
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| 07:46.40 | deitarion | Unison |
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| 07:46.45 | Guerin | rsync can |
| 07:46.55 | wersh | Guerin: i did apt-get -f install, then i keep trying.. same thing |
| 07:47.04 | Guerin | wersh: paste output to a httpd |
| 07:47.17 | wersh | 1sec. |
| 07:47.18 | deitarion | Two-way rsync? since which version? |
| 07:47.54 | wersh | Guerin: www.datafear.com/output.txt |
| 07:47.59 | Guerin | deitarion: one after the other? |
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| 07:48.27 | deitarion | Ahh yes, it would work that way if I used --update to prevent older files from overwriting newer ones. |
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| 07:48.57 | Guerin | deitarion: and didn't use --delete :) |
| 07:48.59 | sn00p | what fs type to do I mount a music cd as? iso9660 gives me wrong fs type |
| 07:49.03 | deitarion | of course. |
| 07:49.11 | liable | wersh: and you have mplayer installed? |
| 07:49.12 | Guerin | sn00p: you don't mjount audio cd |
| 07:49.26 | Guerin | !tell wersh about mplayer |
| 07:49.34 | bob2 | unison is written in ocaml or something |
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| 07:49.44 | bob2 | don't trust things written in languages yo ucan't pronounce |
| 07:49.50 | wersh | when i try to install mplayer, it says E: package mplayer-386 has no installation candiate. |
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| 07:50.12 | deitarion | I already have Objective CAML on my machine for something else I use. |
| 07:50.24 | liable | wersh: wtf are you trying to install mozilla-mplayer when you dont have mplayer? |
| 07:50.26 | sn00p | mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source) |
| 07:50.27 | sn00p | mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org |
| 07:50.27 | sn00p | xmms-xmmplayer - XMMS plugin that uses MPlayer to play video files |
| 07:50.30 | sn00p | Thats all I f ind |
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| 07:50.41 | wersh | liable: mplayer won't install? |
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| 07:50.44 | bob2 | sn00p: you can't mount audi ocds |
| 07:50.53 | bob2 | not without a dodgy kernel module, anyway |
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| 07:50.56 | liable | !tell wersh about marillat |
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| 07:51.27 | sn00p | Why isn't mplayer installable |
| 07:51.38 | nkuttler | !tell sn00p about mplayer |
| 07:51.41 | liable | !tell sn00p about marillat |
| 07:51.55 | bob2 | it is installable |
| 07:52.12 | sn00p | hmmm |
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| 07:53.24 | nkuttler | Cran: /msg the bot |
| 07:53.25 | wersh | thanks |
| 07:53.28 | streuner | sn00p: what's the error? |
| 07:54.03 | liable | apt-get error: people cant fucking use google :) |
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| 07:54.55 | streuner | marillat do a great job - there are rarely errors |
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| 07:55.03 | Guerin | s/do/does/ |
| 07:55.05 | liable | !tell Cran about msg the bot |
| 07:55.08 | streuner | Cran: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 07:56.18 | liable | ffs.. |
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| 07:56.51 | streuner | Cran: if you use a 'special' irc-client which doesn't support /msg feel free to just use irssi or X-Chat... |
| 07:57.42 | streuner | X-Chat is avaiable for windows too... |
| 07:57.45 | Cran | !tell Cran about mysql |
| 07:57.54 | liable | Cran: stop it! |
| 07:58.02 | streuner | Cran: are you a bot? |
| 07:58.18 | Cran | i want to know |
| 07:58.21 | liable | Cran: you already have a window open with dpkg, just ask it! |
| 07:58.30 | Cran | oh |
| 07:58.37 | Guerin | Cran: why do you want to know? you clearly can't read. |
| 07:59.23 | Cran | ii can read |
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| 07:59.54 | Cran | i want to knw everything |
| 08:00.11 | streuner | Cran: get dpkg's db then |
| 08:00.24 | pureone | or use google :P |
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| 08:01.44 | sn00p | how do I give use sn00p to access /dev/hdd for winamp? |
| 08:01.52 | streuner | heh |
| 08:02.03 | streuner | winamp? |
| 08:02.10 | sn00p | xmms |
| 08:02.12 | streuner | you mean xmms? |
| 08:02.16 | sn00p | yea |
| 08:02.27 | streuner | adduser <user> audio |
| 08:02.38 | streuner | man fstab |
| 08:02.41 | streuner | man mount |
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| 08:02.59 | sn00p | it says i'm already a user |
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| 08:03.10 | sn00p | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.16 | streuner | good |
| 08:03.24 | streuner | you don't mount audio CDs |
| 08:03.28 | Guerin | sn00p: as i already fucking told you, you D NOT MOUNT AUDIO CDS |
| 08:03.31 | sn00p | But the user wont still let me access the audio cd |
| 08:03.35 | sn00p | i am fucking not |
| 08:03.38 | sn00p | shut your face |
| 08:03.48 | Guerin | sn00p: please endeavour to be less stupid. |
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| 08:04.00 | sn00p | Guerin: please be less rude |
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| 08:04.11 | sn00p | refrain yourself from the channel |
| 08:04.12 | [LocK] | hi |
| 08:04.16 | Phated | Says Mr Shut-Your-Face. |
| 08:04.33 | Guerin | sn00p: as root: chgrp /dev/hdd audio |
| 08:04.46 | [LocK] | does someone known how to install new linux kernel on ppc ? |
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| 08:04.50 | Guerin | sn00p: don't try to mount it |
| 08:05.01 | Guerin | sn00p: just log out, log back in, and it ought to work. |
| 08:05.12 | sn00p | Guerin: I didn't I was asking how can I make user sn00p accessible to /dev/hdd |
| 08:05.28 | paivakil | [LocK]: read the kernel HOWTO |
| 08:05.33 | Guerin | sn00p: 17:02:27 < sn00p> I cant mount an audio cd |
| 08:05.38 | Guerin | !swym |
| 08:05.38 | dpkg | [swym] Say What You Mean. See also MWYS. |
| 08:05.43 | sn00p | that was 8 minutes ago |
| 08:05.46 | Phated | Ehm... If you want to get to a CD, you need your user to be able to access the disc drive. |
| 08:05.51 | sn00p | this is what I said a minute go |
| 08:05.59 | sn00p | how do I give use sn00p to access /dev/hdd for winamp? |
| 08:06.17 | Guerin | no, that was about a minute bfefore |
| 08:06.18 | nkuttler | sn00p: man mount, man fstab |
| 08:06.26 | Guerin | but nevertheless, you now have your answer |
| 08:06.30 | Guerin | !date |
| 08:06.30 | dpkg | The current date is Sun Sep 25 08:06:30 2005 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 08:06.31 | [LocK] | paivakil => ok, good idea ;) |
| 08:06.38 | Guerin | damnit, my clock is wrong again |
| 08:06.47 | timgoh0 | Guerin: NTP. |
| 08:06.54 | streuner | Guerin: sarge? ntpdate? |
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| 08:07.16 | sn00p | Guerin: Its ok, but chgrp says audio doesn't exist |
| 08:07.29 | Guerin | sn00p: it lies. |
| 08:07.41 | Guerin | sn00p: oh, my syntax is wrong |
| 08:07.51 | Guerin | sn00p: chgrp audio /dev/hdd |
| 08:07.54 | sn00p | ok |
| 08:08.07 | Guerin | timgoh0: i have it, but there's some fuckup in my init which doesn't bring the nic up automatically |
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| 08:08.34 | timgoh0 | Guerin: Ah. So manually NTP sync after the interface comes up? |
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| 08:11.16 | sn00p | guerin: hhmm it recongnize the cd but some reason it doesn't show any files in /media/cdrom |
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| 08:13.19 | sn00p | Guerin: it says no cd in /dev/audio |
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| 08:14.53 | timgoh0 | sn00p: Where is your CDROM device? |
| 08:15.01 | sn00p | its /dev/hdd |
| 08:15.03 | timgoh0 | And why the hell would there be a CD in /dev/audio? |
| 08:15.11 | sn00p | BuI dont know |
| 08:15.19 | sn00p | that what xmms says no cd in /dev/audio |
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| 08:16.49 | sn00p | but in preferences i have it /dev/hdd and /media/cdrom |
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| 08:17.52 | Guerin | sn00p: no idea, then. i don't use audio cds, except to rip them. |
| 08:17.53 | [LocK] | paivakil => i cant anything interesting in kernel howto :( |
| 08:18.09 | Cran | i want to install qt3 and i dont know how :apt-get install ???????????? |
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| 08:18.21 | sn00p | there we go |
| 08:18.25 | sn00p | I got it to work |
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| 08:18.38 | Guerin | Cran: apt-cache seatch qt3 dev |
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| 08:19.49 | Cran | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.02 | Cran | i need thhe name |
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| 08:21.11 | timgoh0 | Cran: See the command that the very nice guy above just gave you? |
| 08:21.16 | timgoh0 | Cran: Use it. |
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| 08:23.09 | peterS | well, after s/seatch/search/ anyway |
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| 08:23.23 | timgoh0 | peterS: Ah. Right. Missed that. |
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| 08:24.08 | timgoh0 | Cran: http://packages.debian.org/ ? |
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| 08:32.22 | liable | aycan^: die! |
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| 08:34.48 | sn00p_ | how you doing today liable? |
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| 08:35.39 | liable | fine thanks. |
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| 08:36.45 | lordknow1 | i have kde |
| 08:36.49 | lordknow1 | and i dont like it |
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| 08:36.59 | lordknow1 | where can i set it to not load it at boot up |
| 08:37.03 | lordknow1 | and load blackbox? |
| 08:37.07 | lordknow1 | .xsession? |
| 08:37.09 | dondelelcaro | lordknow1: yes. |
| 08:37.17 | lordknow1 | there is no xsession file though |
| 08:37.18 | dondelelcaro | lordknow1: then use the Debian session instead of the KDE one. |
| 08:37.21 | dondelelcaro | lordknow1: so make one. |
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| 08:37.37 | lordknow1 | will it orverride whatever kde is using to boot with? |
| 08:37.48 | lordknow1 | how do i use the debian session instead of the kde one? |
| 08:38.08 | dondelelcaro | lordknow1: you choose it in your DM if you're using one; startx will use it automatically. |
| 08:38.17 | lordknow1 | ahhh |
| 08:38.22 | lordknow1 | where are the settings for this? |
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| 08:38.30 | lordknow1 | i have made my xsession btw |
| 08:38.43 | lordknow1 | ima restart x |
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| 08:43.09 | dondelelcaro | !tell delerivm -about away |
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| 08:43.48 | litage_ | when replicating data from tinydns1 to tinydns2 using rsync-over-ssh, the transferred file is owned by root:root and chmod'd 644. for the replication to be automatic, i need public key authentication. but to overwrite a root-owned, 644 file, root would have to run the rsync command, which is unsafe. what can i do? |
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| 08:45.33 | dondelelcaro | litage_: why do you need root to own the files in question? |
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| 08:45.55 | litage_ | dondelelcaro: i don't, but that's the way djbdns sets itup |
| 08:45.59 | mantep | hai |
| 08:46.08 | HaNazir | i'm using mutt so i start, then press c and then enter pops://username@gmail.com/ and it says connecting all the time any ideas? |
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| 08:47.02 | mantep | he |
| 08:47.11 | nkuttler | HaNazir: does it work with other clients? |
| 08:47.27 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: have you set your pop_host properly in your muttrc? |
| 08:48.12 | mantep | pussy where are you |
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| 08:48.31 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, all i know is that pop and ssl is enabled. where wuld muttrc be? |
| 08:48.36 | mantep | im a 213243 |
| 08:48.40 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: in ~/.muttrc |
| 08:48.43 | HaNazir | nkuttler, i dont thin so |
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| 08:49.03 | dondelelcaro | mantep: let me know if you actually have a #debian related question to ask |
| 08:49.10 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, doesnt exist |
| 08:49.15 | Gnea | !tell HaNazir about fetchmail |
| 08:49.15 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: well, create it |
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| 08:49.23 | HaNazir | Gnea, thanx |
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| 08:49.30 | Gnea | np |
| 08:49.40 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, what do i need to put in it. |
| 08:49.43 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 08:49.52 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, what would u recommend for a console e-mail client then for pop3? |
| 08:50.12 | Gnea | HaNazir: do you know how to use fetchmail? |
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| 08:50.19 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: imap |
| 08:50.36 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: I personally use offlineimap+dovecot+mutt; but that's just my setup. |
| 08:50.44 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, that works with pop3? |
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| 08:50.50 | HaNazir | Gnea, nope |
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| 08:50.51 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: no, it works with IMAP. |
| 08:51.12 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, i want to get my g-mail though :( |
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| 08:51.35 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: well, you can get it using fetchmail to a local maildir collection, and then read it using mutt. |
| 08:51.47 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, can i create my own pc based mail server, where the e-mail address is my domain? |
| 08:51.50 | Gnea | HaNazir: fetchmail rocks - you can use it as a gateway to download and check your pop mail remotely - it downloads it to your local machine and you can use mutt to read and send email with it - just need to configure your mta to use google as a smarthost for sending |
| 08:51.53 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: sure |
| 08:52.19 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, how? any links? |
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| 08:52.52 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: uh... you set up a domain name, you set up an MTA, you receive mail, you send mail. If any of that is new; well, you'll have to do a bit of reading about it. |
| 08:52.56 | drac | Whats the default cfq in vanilla kernels.. ? |
| 08:53.06 | dondelelcaro | drac: depends on your architecture. |
| 08:53.12 | drac | dondelelcaro: i386 |
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| 08:53.25 | Gnea | drac: look at /boot/config-<kernelversion> |
| 08:53.29 | drac | Well, default cfq in debian i386 kernels. |
| 08:53.35 | HaNazir | dondelelcaro, very new :) |
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| 08:53.53 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: right; I'd just stick with using fetchmail to pull the mail from gmail, and then using mutt to read it locally. |
| 08:54.01 | dondelelcaro | HaNazir: worry about the more complex setups later. |
| 08:54.03 | HaNazir | :) |
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| 08:54.59 | mwilson | ZzZzZz |
| 08:55.32 | liable | what can i use to play streaming audio without x? |
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| 08:55.33 | mwilson | ouch |
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| 08:55.45 | drac | liable: mplayer |
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| 08:56.23 | liable | drac: ah thanks, any others? |
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| 08:56.35 | drac | dunno about others |
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| 08:57.21 | sweety_kai2000 | hi asl pls |
| 08:57.50 | liable | drac: can i capture it too? |
| 08:58.09 | sweety_kai2000 | hi |
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| 08:58.41 | nkuttler | liable: try streamripper, maybe mplayer can do it too |
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| 08:59.06 | drac | liable: I'm sure you can, since redirecting to file is possible with mplayer. I just don't know syntax out of memory. |
| 08:59.22 | liable | ok cheers guys. |
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| 08:59.31 | Terraniux | hello, I have just setup samba but whenever I try to access that computer in windows XP it prompts for a password, I click okay and it just asks for the password still... I know I am entering the credentials correctly |
| 09:00.05 | cahoot | liable: you can use arecord to pick it up directly from hw:0 f ex |
| 09:00.09 | nkuttler | Terraniux: apt-get install samba-doc |
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| 09:00.28 | Terraniux | ive done that |
| 09:00.41 | Terraniux | thats why im here |
| 09:00.44 | sweety_kai2000 | hi |
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| 09:00.59 | nkuttler | Terraniux: well installing alone isn't enough, you need to read the docs. what does the log say? |
| 09:01.18 | liable | cahoot: thanks |
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| 09:03.36 | sweety_kai2000 | hi |
| 09:03.38 | sweety_kai2000 | l;mljk |
| 09:03.41 | sweety_kai2000 | lkpk; |
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| 09:03.57 | Terraniux | where is the log located? |
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| 09:04.15 | simonrvn | /var/log/samba as per default |
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| 09:05.28 | Terraniux | this is just one line |
| 09:05.29 | Terraniux | NOTE: Service homes is flagged unavailable. |
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| 09:05.46 | Terraniux | which is weird |
| 09:05.46 | streuner | simonrvn: why does everyone needs nowadays wikis? |
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| 09:06.11 | simonrvn | how should i know? :) |
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| 09:06.13 | Terraniux | I set to available |
| 09:06.29 | streuner | simonrvn: ok :-) and why do you need a wiki? |
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| 09:06.50 | Terraniux | says all my resources are flagged unavailable when they're available |
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| 09:09.28 | simonrvn | it's useful for sharing info, and having people edit / add the info as needed |
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| 09:09.48 | streuner | ic |
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| 09:11.09 | binman180 | dudes can i have some help? |
| 09:11.20 | dondelelcaro | !tell binman180 -about ask |
| 09:11.32 | binman180 | ? |
| 09:12.06 | dondelelcaro | binman180: see what the bot told you; aka: just ask. |
| 09:12.27 | binman180 | k |
| 09:12.33 | sussudio | and don't paste in here |
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| 09:13.34 | Orborde | He really wanted the help. |
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| 09:13.47 | nkuttler | w |
| 09:13.47 | GeNeSiS | hello |
| 09:13.51 | servus | apt-get just moo'd at me o.o |
| 09:13.53 | nkuttler | hm |
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| 09:14.01 | dondelelcaro | !moo |
| 09:14.02 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 09:15.15 | andrearodriguez1 | ouch, too bored |
| 09:15.46 | dondelelcaro | andrearodriguez1: fix bugs or file bugs. |
| 09:15.59 | dondelelcaro | there are only a couple thousand open |
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| 09:17.04 | _Hug[o]_ | is it recommended to install the aRts server? |
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| 09:17.33 | Terraniux | anyone know what Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer) means in my samba log? |
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| 09:18.08 | dondelelcaro | Terraniux: exactly what it says; the peer that samba was talking to closed the connection |
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| 09:18.38 | Terraniux | got any idea what that could be in windows? perhaps a firewall? |
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| 09:18.52 | andrearodriguez1 | i just want to chat andrearodriguez1988@hotmail.com |
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| 09:19.15 | lord_rob | hi ! is marillat's server down (nerim.net) ? I keep getting a gzip error code when "'apt-get updating" ... |
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| 09:20.02 | sussudio | lord_rob: you should read what's on marillat's page |
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| 09:24.41 | lord_rob | hmmmm ok |
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| 09:26.07 | Firefishe | I just installed sarge 3.1 stable. what is the file to edit that tells apt-get where to download it's files? |
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| 09:26.28 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: /etc/apt/sources.list; man 5 sources.list |
| 09:26.47 | Firefishe | thanks |
| 09:26.52 | Firefishe | I've been away for a while ;) |
| 09:26.52 | glut | apt-setup should do the trick |
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| 09:27.11 | Firefishe | where can I get a list of servers? |
| 09:27.16 | dondelelcaro | !mirrors |
| 09:27.16 | dpkg | well, debian mirrors is # apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 09:27.34 | NightLord | Can anyone tell me how to mount my usb drive and get it to automatically mount when i plug it in? |
| 09:27.40 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: mirrors =~ s/#/use/ |
| 09:27.40 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: that doesn't contain '#' |
| 09:27.44 | Firefishe | thanks all |
| 09:27.47 | dondelelcaro | !literal mirrors |
| 09:27.47 | dpkg | mirrors is <reply> see debian mirrors |
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| 09:28.13 | lordknow1 | hey |
| 09:28.34 | nkuttler | NightLord: do you use a debian kernel? |
| 09:28.35 | lordknow1 | i had KDE on my system and changed my .xsession so it doesnt load but there is still the ghey login screen |
| 09:28.42 | NightLord | yep, debian sarge |
| 09:28.51 | lordknow1 | how do i get it to not load any X by default? |
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| 09:29.02 | nkuttler | NightLord: dmesg should tell you which device it is, mount it, look into the automount package |
| 09:29.06 | lord_rob | lordknow1: apt-get remove kdm xdm gdm |
| 09:29.08 | NightLord | ok |
| 09:29.12 | lordknow1 | nice |
| 09:29.19 | lordknow1 | thanx |
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| 09:29.39 | lordknow1 | ill still have xwindows though right? |
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| 09:29.45 | lordknow1 | ill just have to load it via startx |
| 09:29.47 | nkuttler | what kind of log is this: IN=eth1 OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=192.168.1.38 LEN=576 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL...? |
| 09:29.53 | lord_rob | lordknow1: yes, startx |
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| 09:29.57 | lordknow1 | siiick |
| 09:29.59 | lordknow1 | thanx a bunch |
| 09:30.02 | lordknow1 | kde is so gaudy |
| 09:30.08 | riki | any uk user here? |
| 09:30.09 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: bind logs |
| 09:30.13 | nkuttler | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 09:30.17 | dondelelcaro | riki: just ask your question |
| 09:30.18 | lordknow1 | looks like a mix between osx and windows xp T_T |
| 09:30.23 | fragske | where can i find xserver-xorg package? |
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| 09:30.47 | NightLord | I don't like KDE |
| 09:30.49 | fragske | i tried apt-get install xserver-xorg but he says he can't find it, im not sure wich repository i should put in sources.list cause i have no clue |
| 09:30.49 | the1_ts | nkuttler: That looks like iptables logs |
| 09:30.54 | Firefishe_editin | apt-setup doing fine...this is easier than a lot of distros |
| 09:30.57 | lord_rob | fragske: it's on sid |
| 09:31.03 | NightLord | I used to love it, but then I used gnome for a bit and fell in love :P |
| 09:31.11 | fragske | on sid? |
| 09:31.13 | riki | It's not debian related, but it's the only IRC channel that I used in my life, so well I can't imagine other about this argument |
| 09:31.16 | Firefishe_editin | I still like kde overall |
| 09:31.30 | lord_rob | fragske: /msg dpkg sid |
| 09:31.41 | nkuttler | the1_ts: will look into that as well, thanks |
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| 09:31.54 | riki | i am going to transfert to uk, well I was searching for and ADSL ISP in UK and I can't find one specifing the Upload speed, every ISP specify the download speed, but not upload |
| 09:31.58 | NightLord | woo! usb drive works! |
| 09:32.07 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: erg; my bad... it's probably iptables... named has output like that too. |
| 09:32.08 | the1_ts | nkuttler: You have some rule in iptables set to log |
| 09:32.10 | fragske | cheers |
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| 09:32.35 | riki | could any UK user tell me what upload speed are associated with 1Mb download usully? |
| 09:32.47 | lord_rob | fragske: also in testing (etch) |
| 09:33.00 | the1_ts | riki: 256 is the usual |
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| 09:33.04 | mr_blue | hello all |
| 09:33.05 | dondelelcaro | riki: it's totally dependent on your connection type, I'd guess either 128K or 256K. |
| 09:33.09 | lord_rob | fragske: but not in stable (sarge, prolly what you are using) |
| 09:33.14 | fragske | yeah |
| 09:33.23 | NightLord | oooh, thats not good :| |
| 09:33.33 | NightLord | why does it think my folders are files |
| 09:33.46 | mr_blue | if i want my dhcp server to give me a fixer ip adress, how to do that ? |
| 09:34.02 | nkuttler | mr_blue: man dhcpd.conf |
| 09:34.04 | riki | thank you guys, so is like in italy.... I think a 512 dowload would have a 128 upload and a 1000 download would have a 256 right? |
| 09:34.04 | dondelelcaro | mr_blue: set up a fixed address for it in your dhcpd.conf. |
| 09:34.12 | fragske | right now i have deb http://ftp.belnet.be/debian sarge main |
| 09:34.34 | the1_ts | mr_blue: Set up a host section with your mac address |
| 09:34.58 | mr_blue | is there some url about that ? |
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| 09:35.27 | riki | dondecarlo, the1_ts: thank you guys |
| 09:35.36 | mr_blue | or example of dhclient.conf ? |
| 09:35.40 | sts | any experienced cyrus/sieve users around? i'm trying to get sieve working: its starting, i installed sample scripts but nothing ever happens when a mail arrives that matches the conditions of my script. |
| 09:35.47 | the1_ts | mr_blue: depends on your dhcp server. Take a look in the docs /usr/share/doc/dhcp |
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| 09:36.52 | dondelelcaro | mr_blue: the dhcpd.conf manpage has examples on how to do it. You're going to specify a fixed-address declaration for the host. |
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| 09:37.51 | dede | bonjour |
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| 09:39.03 | sagarp | where is gnome installed in debian?? |
| 09:39.21 | mr_blue | ok, so i'll add a send ??? the_id_i_want in my /etc/dhclient.conf. What is the option for the '???' ? |
| 09:39.51 | dondelelcaro | mr_blue: no, you don't even need to send an id. Static ips are usually done based on mac addresses. |
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| 09:40.00 | dondelelcaro | sagarp: dpkg -L gnomepackageyoucareabout; |
| 09:40.10 | the1_ts | mr_blue: Do you run the dhcp server ? |
| 09:40.13 | dondelelcaro | sagarp: visit packages.debian.org if you don't have them installed. |
| 09:40.14 | liable | sagarp: err, there isnt just a 'gnome' but look in /usr/bin.. |
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| 09:40.55 | sagarp | okay..well i wanted to install gnome2.12 using jhbuild, and i didnt know where to install it to...the default is /opt/gnome2 |
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| 09:41.00 | the1_ts | sagarp: Can't you just "pick it" from your login screen? |
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| 09:41.05 | mr_blue | the1_ts, it is not me |
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| 09:41.23 | dondelelcaro | sagarp: ugh. Just use the Debian packages of gnome 2.10 |
| 09:41.35 | the1_ts | mr_blue: Static IP's are part of the servers responsibility not the clients. |
| 09:41.38 | liable | dondelelcaro: its too old! :) |
| 09:41.44 | dondelelcaro | riiiight. |
| 09:41.54 | sagarp | it is :( i want 2.12 |
| 09:41.57 | sagarp | lol |
| 09:42.07 | sagarp | otherwise i'd have to wait like 1 year for it to come as a deb |
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| 09:42.18 | the1_ts | sagarp: Try garnome instead, its a build environment. |
| 09:42.26 | mr_blue | the1_ts, no way for me to tell the server : give me that ip ? |
| 09:42.28 | lord_rob | if I get an updated classpath, is it automatically integrated into gcj ? or do I need another free jre ? |
| 09:42.37 | dondelelcaro | blech. |
| 09:42.43 | sagarp | ok..isn't garnome actually some kind of minor fork of gnome ors omething liek that |
| 09:42.51 | the1_ts | mr_blue: Unless the server is holding an IP for you it will reuse it for someone else. |
| 09:43.25 | dondelelcaro | sagarp: see http://oskuro.net/blog/2005/09/13/ |
| 09:43.38 | the1_ts | mr_blue: Perhaps what you want is dynamic dns ? http://www.dyndns.org for example |
| 09:43.43 | dondelelcaro | and please, don't suggest garnome or unofficial packages here unless you plan on supporting them yourself. |
| 09:43.44 | usn | good morning |
| 09:44.21 | mr_blue | the1_ts, thx but no |
| 09:44.26 | the1_ts | sagarp: Just a build environment like jhbuild. Some minor changes to allow compilation on all distros and OS's |
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| 09:45.44 | sagarp | dondelecaro =/ |
| 09:45.47 | liable | sagarp: do you actually have a valid reason for wanting 2.12? |
| 09:46.13 | liable | sagarp: maybe one of the more bleeding edge distro's is for you.. |
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| 09:46.38 | sagarp | liable, well yeah...a lot of little things that i like are in 2.12 which i've been waiting for |
| 09:46.51 | sagarp | liable and i have the time and bandwidth to get 2.12, so i might as well not wait aroudn |
| 09:47.30 | callois | bye |
| 09:47.32 | callois | exit |
| 09:47.34 | callois | help |
| 09:47.39 | callois | ?help |
| 09:47.44 | liable | callois: /exit |
| 09:47.48 | sagarp | and HAL is cool |
| 09:48.00 | usn | did you REALLY say hal? |
| 09:48.20 | dondelelcaro | sagarp: so help with the 2.12 packaging effort |
| 09:48.21 | sagarp | 2k1 |
| 09:48.24 | fragske | oh btw how do i look for packages? |
| 09:48.29 | dondelelcaro | !tell fragske -about search |
| 09:48.30 | sagarp | how do i help |
| 09:48.49 | liable | fragske: install apt-howto-en |
| 09:48.50 | fragske | aha , it was with apt-cache |
| 09:48.52 | fragske | now i remember :) |
| 09:48.58 | peterS | there's a question of whether HAL in this case means a fictional computer, or a Windows NT hardware abstraction layer, or the Linux subsystem that has little to do with the NT one but uses the same acronym expansion |
| 09:49.08 | dondelelcaro | sagarp: see http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-gnome/ |
| 09:49.51 | sagarp | woot |
| 09:50.16 | GeNeSiS | I have a problem with ALSA. The ALSA-OSS-emulation and alsamixer works, but when I try to use the ALSA-Output-Plugin in XMMS, Beep Media Player, aplay, ... I get an error. |
| 09:50.51 | dondelelcaro | also, see the various bugs.debian.org/gnome packages; You can also ask Jordi Mallach what he needs assistance with. |
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| 09:51.27 | dondelelcaro | he'd probably greately appreciate someone going through the bugs page trying to replicate bugs and/or closing them if they no longer apply. |
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| 09:52.14 | liable | !be a gnome barbie |
| 09:52.15 | dpkg | Aww, gnome is hard! Let's go shopping, liable |
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| 09:53.11 | Lilldude_ | hey laible |
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| 09:53.23 | liable | hi |
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| 09:54.03 | Lilldude_ | every thing set to shared |
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| 09:54.53 | poncha|work | guys i need someone experienced in img->video conversion and specifically with mjpegtools ;) anyone like this by chance here now ? |
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| 09:55.15 | poncha|work | (sorry asking in wrong place probably but i dont know where else :)) |
| 09:55.49 | GeNeSiS | I have a problem with ALSA. The ALSA-OSS-emulation and alsamixer works, but when I try to use the ALSA-Output-Plugin in XMMS, Beep Media Player, aplay, ... I get an error. |
| 09:55.51 | liable | poncha|work: take a look at doom9.org, not much linux stuff, but good site for that sort of thing.. |
| 09:56.03 | poncha|work | liable, thanks! |
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| 09:56.34 | liable | poncha|work: sorry, .net.. |
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| 10:03.01 | Lilldude_ | liable you evor get games like doom3 fro linux? |
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| 10:05.44 | powdergreentea | hello? |
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| 10:06.14 | poncha|work | Lilldude_, doom9.net is unrelated to gaming in general and to doom3 in particular |
| 10:06.30 | albertino_ | hello, I downloaded the gdm (.deb format) package for X system and burned it on a cd.. once i mounted the cdrom and apt-get instal gdm_2.6.0.8-1_i386.deb it said E:invalid operation gdm_2.6.0.8-1_i386.deb why is that? |
| 10:07.01 | poncha|work | liable, that site is less informative to me than i thought though :(( it (mostly) speaks of vid<->vid conversions and dvd descrambling |
| 10:07.03 | peterS | albertino_: apt doesn't understand individual package files, it wants you to work through repositories |
| 10:07.19 | peterS | albertino_: instead, you want 'dpkg --unpack gdm_2.6.0.8-1_i386.deb' then 'apt-get -f install' |
| 10:07.24 | liable | poncha|work: *shrug* sorry.. |
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| 10:07.51 | poncha|work | liable, no prob :) thanks anyway, it's a good placde in general and definitely goes into bookmarks :) |
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| 10:11.53 | simonrvn | i wonder why someone would waste a cd like that. one .deb? |
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| 10:11.54 | poncha|work | in general, my problem is some error i am getting from png2yuv (part of mjpegtools) that it has an unknown color value in png (png file format is ok according to pngcheck)... and only reference i can find to that error message is in mjpegtools src tree :)) like noone hit this thing before me |
| 10:13.48 | poncha|work | and in src it's simple... the func ( called png_separation ) returns that value *unless* png_struct->color_type on of PNG_COLOR_TYPE_GRAY | PNG_COLOR_TYPE_RGB |
| 10:14.01 | _Hug[o]_ | does anyone know a program to split mp3 files |
| 10:14.03 | poncha|work | so i wonder what is color format of my png hehe :) |
| 10:14.13 | simonrvn | file can tell you, or gimp |
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| 10:14.40 | poncha|work | simonrvn, 1e43108e7b5ecdf3eae83fdb628cc3cd.png: PNG image data, 128 x 128, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced |
| 10:14.47 | liable | _Hug[o]_: split? funnily enough.. |
| 10:14.57 | _Hug[o]_ | why so |
| 10:15.08 | simonrvn | it's a command |
| 10:15.12 | poncha|work | mm... i guess i need to create the png as rgb |
| 10:15.26 | poncha|work | looking for gif2png options :) |
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| 10:15.29 | liable | _Hug[o]_: man split |
| 10:15.30 | simonrvn | that 8-bit implies rgb, but not necessarily |
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| 10:15.36 | _Hug[o]_ | sure |
| 10:15.38 | SonicK | hi |
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| 10:15.43 | peterS | liable: split is inadequate if you want to produce valid mp3 files |
| 10:15.51 | liable | peterS: oh |
| 10:15.54 | simonrvn | that's true |
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| 10:16.09 | simonrvn | there's a header you have to watch out for |
| 10:16.12 | peterS | liable: for that matter, if you want to produce valid *any* files, pretty much |
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| 10:16.24 | EdgEy | .txt files would work |
| 10:16.25 | EdgEy | :) |
| 10:16.29 | liable | right. |
| 10:16.32 | SonicK | i'm alone with a conflict between udev and alsa-utils in stable ? |
| 10:16.45 | peterS | EdgEy: right, split has special support for ascii text files, since you can split by "line" rather than by byte |
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| 10:16.57 | simonrvn | well for storage or whatever split/join is ok, but if you want to *use* those files, well use join... ;p |
| 10:17.10 | simonrvn | then use it |
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| 10:17.30 | Blokey | after an unscheduled reboot last night, mplayer + friends all of a sudden cause xorg to crash when using the xv output driver. anyone else experienced this? |
| 10:17.32 | _Hug[o]_ | simonrvn, I want to use them while they are split =/ |
| 10:17.33 | peterS | wishing to chop an mp3 file into smaller mp3 files of sub-ranges is a sensible thing to want to do, without recoding the content |
| 10:17.39 | lamp__ | do you know why i get this error when i try to start esd /dev/dsp: No such file or directory i can play music with xmms (alsa plugin) my soundcard is configured by alsaconf |
| 10:17.39 | peterS | we just don't know of any tools that will do it |
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| 10:17.50 | simonrvn | audacity ;) |
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| 10:18.14 | peterS | audacity probably expands and recodes the file when saving smaller chunks of it |
| 10:18.22 | gnetux | hi every one |
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| 10:19.09 | gnetux | someone knows an e-amil server opensource for win??? |
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| 10:19.34 | peterS | gnetux: sendmail, inc. sells supported sendmail for windows NT |
| 10:19.36 | simonrvn | yeh, but then the resultant mp3 files - when you exprt or save as - actually work, as opposed to just being 'data' like file would report it as if you used split on it |
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| 10:20.00 | simonrvn | gnetux: we don't do windoze here |
| 10:20.10 | gnetux | peterS:thanks |
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| 10:20.19 | simonrvn | only windows i have is the one my wm are showing me |
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| 10:20.28 | gnetux | simonrvn;it's not for me |
| 10:20.30 | poncha|work | damn :) gif2png does not have any options forcing target to be rgb or not |
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| 10:20.42 | cat | damn sid is freaking out on meh |
| 10:20.45 | cat | freaking Sid |
| 10:20.46 | gnetux | simonrv:it's not for me |
| 10:20.51 | simonrvn | doesn't matter, ask in a windoze channel |
| 10:20.59 | peterS | poncha|work: the png spec is quite insistent that all implementations have to support all 'required' features, including different color spaces |
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| 10:21.45 | poncha|work | peterS, obviousely mjpegtools png2yuv does not support color type 3 (which is i am not sure what :)) |
| 10:21.54 | simonrvn | google it |
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| 10:22.10 | peterS | poncha|work: oh, who knows then. that's a bug, at least if it claims to support the png spec (: |
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| 10:23.47 | eddan | I've changed both /etc/X11/XF86Config and XF86Config-4 to use the "no" (norwegian) keymap, but I always need to run "setxkbmap no" to make it work. Also tried the keybconf utility without luck. After a reboot I always need to do it manually.. Of course I could just have it run "setxkbmap no" at startup but I'd like to do it "properly". |
| 10:23.51 | poncha|work | how can i transform gif to jpeg? :) |
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| 10:23.59 | poncha|work | that would solve my problem probably :) |
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| 10:24.11 | poncha|work | as mjepegtools can make yuv from either png or jpg |
| 10:24.28 | albertino_ | peterS thanks.. I also want to enable th0 i am on Wifi i did ifdown but when i ifup th0 it sais it is already configures |
| 10:24.34 | albertino_ | configured* |
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| 10:24.41 | peterS | poncha|work: probably with netpbm |
| 10:24.56 | peterS | poncha|work: giftopnm ... | pnmtojpeg ... |
| 10:25.02 | simonrvn | or imagemagick |
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| 10:25.24 | poncha|work | peterS, trying ;) thx |
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| 10:27.33 | schiros | i'm trying to get the nvidia module installed, but I apparently don't have the proper repository in my sources.list. I've checked google, but everything there seems to be out of date. any idea where I could get that? |
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| 10:27.52 | [sr] | howdy |
| 10:27.54 | [sr] | boot on raid |
| 10:27.56 | [sr] | anyone?:P |
| 10:27.56 | lord_rob | schiros: add contirb and non-free |
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| 10:28.11 | simonrvn | /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 10:28.17 | asmodaiii | shinu: follow this how-to: http://www.le-vert.net/howto/nvidia_deb/ |
| 10:28.27 | simonrvn | schiros: ^^^ after you've edited sources.list |
| 10:28.32 | asmodaiii | copy-paste only :-) |
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| 10:28.40 | asmodaiii | and it will be working :-) |
| 10:28.50 | shinu | huh? |
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| 10:29.49 | djp | does the default desktop install of debian 3.1 sarge not include an unzip program? file-roller does not work by default it seems, even though it is installed. |
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| 10:30.11 | liable | schiros: mouse works? |
| 10:30.13 | poncha|work | INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Now generating YUV4MPEG stream. YEAH!! good ;) |
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| 10:30.20 | cat | djace_ yes it does |
| 10:30.26 | cat | well not the unzip |
| 10:30.27 | asmodaiii | djp: apt-get install unzip.. |
| 10:30.29 | liable | djp: no, install unzip |
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| 10:30.47 | poncha|work | thanks peterS simonrvn liable ;) |
| 10:30.55 | simonrvn | np |
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| 10:31.09 | djp | thanks asmodaiii and liable |
| 10:31.19 | asmodaiii | np :-) |
| 10:31.19 | schiros | liable: yes, it does, thank you |
| 10:31.49 | [sr] | come on |
| 10:31.54 | [sr] | no one uses linux raid? |
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| 10:32.30 | liable | [sr]: maybe by asking a coherent question you will get more help.. |
| 10:32.40 | [sr] | [11:27:50] <[sr]> howdy |
| 10:32.40 | [sr] | [11:27:53] <[sr]> boot on raid |
| 10:32.40 | [sr] | [11:27:54] <[sr]> anyone?:P |
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| 10:32.49 | [sr] | more explicit than this cannot be |
| 10:32.50 | [sr] | :P |
| 10:32.53 | liable | thats a question? |
| 10:33.00 | schiros | simonrvn: is there a version of that page in english somewhere? |
| 10:33.08 | [sr] | but if you don't what is it... just leave |
| 10:33.09 | [sr] | :P |
| 10:33.11 | simonrvn | what page? |
| 10:33.14 | djp | cat, what was the unzip program that is intalled by default that you were referring to? |
| 10:33.25 | cat | none sorry i read wrong, |
| 10:33.30 | simonrvn | [sr]: raid howto |
| 10:33.48 | dondelelcaro | [sr]: what question about root raid did you have? What type of raid are you even talking about? |
| 10:33.53 | djp | oh, ok. cheers cat. |
| 10:33.56 | simonrvn | [sr]: and no, that question wasn't clear |
| 10:34.07 | [sr] | for me it was |
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| 10:34.19 | simonrvn | we're not in your head |
| 10:34.19 | [sr] | anyone knows what's boot on raid |
| 10:34.25 | [sr] | ya i know |
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| 10:34.38 | dondelelcaro | [sr]: you mean booting from raid? or what? |
| 10:34.48 | [sr] | yes boot on raid |
| 10:34.48 | liable | [sr]: whats your native language? |
| 10:34.54 | [sr] | portuguese |
| 10:34.56 | [sr] | why? |
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| 10:35.28 | liable | try #debian-br |
| 10:35.39 | vbhanu | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.41 | [sr] | no man... |
| 10:35.45 | [sr] | i have brazilians :( |
| 10:35.49 | [sr] | have=hate |
| 10:35.52 | djp | any other programs that need installing that are not (like unzip), by a default desktop debian install? |
| 10:36.06 | n00b | [sr]...i love them |
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| 10:36.13 | n00b | they have nicec shemales....XD |
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| 10:36.20 | liable | omg... |
| 10:36.25 | [sr] | not my opinion |
| 10:36.28 | lordknow1 | same with thai |
| 10:36.29 | lordknow1 | ;P |
| 10:36.35 | [sr] | but everyone has its own |
| 10:36.36 | [sr] | :p |
| 10:36.39 | lordknow1 | its true |
| 10:36.58 | liable | wow, this seems to be a particularly bad sunday.. |
| 10:37.05 | lordknow1 | ? |
| 10:37.05 | [sr] | lol |
| 10:37.05 | [sr] | nah |
| 10:37.15 | [sr] | but i think it's gonna be a rainny day here:| |
| 10:37.20 | lordknow1 | i hope its rainyt] |
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| 10:37.41 | poncha|work | liable, yeah especially cause sunday is first working day of the week here ;)) and saturday was so good.. ;) |
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| 10:37.55 | lordknow1 | i ran dselect |
| 10:38.04 | lordknow1 | and i think its installing every debian package |
| 10:38.05 | lordknow1 | :P |
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| 10:38.10 | lordknow1 | its taking forever |
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| 10:38.26 | poncha|work | lordknow1, you selected everything with dselect ? :) |
| 10:38.37 | poncha|work | :P |
| 10:38.39 | lordknow1 | im not sure |
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| 10:38.43 | lordknow1 | alot of stuff was selected |
| 10:38.44 | n00b | ok...i just installed debian on my aspire laptop...i get a long call trace then 975 segmentation fault in /etc/rcS.d/S36discover: line 204.... |
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| 10:38.50 | lordknow1 | i didint bother going through them one by one |
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| 10:38.52 | n00b | modprobe $MODULE |
| 10:38.55 | lordknow1 | i think that was a mistake |
| 10:38.55 | lordknow1 | :P |
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| 10:39.05 | n00b | can anyone help me please? |
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| 10:39.19 | n00b | i am try to install debian on my laptop since yesterday |
| 10:39.23 | n00b | trying* |
| 10:39.28 | lordknow1 | what kinda laptop |
| 10:39.31 | dondelelcaro | n00b: right, the question is why did discover segfault... |
| 10:39.35 | lordknow1 | i got debian on my ibm thinkpad t21 |
| 10:39.37 | n00b | acer aspire 1681 |
| 10:39.40 | EdgEy | i dont like aptitude... remove one package and bam its took x and gdm out |
| 10:40.03 | dondelelcaro | n00b: you may need to disable discover |
| 10:40.07 | n00b | ok |
| 10:40.11 | n00b | how? |
| 10:40.16 | n00b | could u tell me please? |
| 10:40.26 | dondelelcaro | n00b: but it should boot regardless assuming some discover command segfaulted. |
| 10:40.34 | n00b | this is my first time to install linux |
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| 10:40.50 | n00b | dondelelcaro....it doesnt |
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| 10:41.05 | n00b | i have to hard turn off and ON to restart.... :( |
| 10:41.12 | liable | n00b: boot a live cd and run memtest first. |
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| 10:41.18 | n00b | i can boot with pci=off |
| 10:41.21 | n00b | but thats not good.... |
| 10:41.26 | n00b | i wont get sound or network |
| 10:41.30 | n00b | nor agp |
| 10:41.38 | n00b | it have ati9700 |
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| 10:42.02 | n00b | liable...mem works fine on xp...it is a new laptop... |
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| 10:42.14 | [sr] | damm you, iu have an old voodoo 3500 :p |
| 10:42.20 | n00b | oh...XD |
| 10:42.24 | [sr] | lol |
| 10:42.25 | [sr] | jokin' |
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| 10:42.42 | dondelelcaro | n00b: you mean with acpi=off? |
| 10:42.43 | EdgEy | n00b, just cause it works fine doesn't mean it is |
| 10:43.01 | n00b | dondelelcaro...i tried that....doesnt work |
| 10:43.05 | n00b | i mean pci=off |
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| 10:43.20 | n00b | and yeah...if i dont use acpi=off...i get acpi problems too |
| 10:43.27 | n00b | but i dont neeed acpi now... |
| 10:43.39 | n00b | i am connecting from old computer now... : |
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| 10:43.48 | n00b | rusky dusty kbd... |
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| 10:44.53 | [sr] | ppl who used wireless |
| 10:45.05 | [sr] | the best wireless tool to configure the nic? |
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| 10:45.57 | n00b | booting with pci=off now... |
| 10:46.07 | ezerhoden | [sr]: iwconfig |
| 10:46.16 | n00b | i hope xfree86 wont hang when starting gdm |
| 10:46.17 | [sr] | oh hum |
| 10:46.21 | [sr] | instead of the console one |
| 10:46.26 | [sr] | a grafical one |
| 10:46.43 | eddan | I've changed both /etc/X11/XF86Config and XF86Config-4 to use the "no" (norwegian) keymap, but I always need to run "setxkbmap no" to make it work. Also tried the keybconf utility without luck. After a reboot I always need to do it manually.. Of course I could just have it run "setxkbmap no" at startup but I'd like to do it "properly". Any ideas? |
| 10:46.43 | dondelelcaro | [sr]: just use an editor and /etc/network/interfaces; it's simple enough. |
| 10:47.07 | [sr] | but i want something with stats of the signal lengh and those things.. |
| 10:47.13 | [sr] | but grafical |
| 10:47.20 | [sr] | graphical |
| 10:47.23 | [sr] | whatever |
| 10:47.24 | [sr] | :P |
| 10:47.24 | eddan | [sr]: wavemon? |
| 10:47.30 | eddan | ah |
| 10:47.35 | eddan | instead of a console one, sorry |
| 10:47.43 | [sr] | yes |
| 10:48.04 | mjk64 | !tell [sr] -about enter |
| 10:48.20 | lordknow1 | . |
| 10:48.29 | lordknow1 | !tell lordknow1 -about everything |
| 10:48.38 | lordknow1 | !tell lordknow1 -about happiness |
| 10:48.58 | lordknow1 | !tell lordknow1 -about the meaning of life |
| 10:49.09 | lordknow1 | !tell lordknow1 |
| 10:49.16 | drac | !tell lordknow1 about msg |
| 10:49.28 | gnetux | thanks to everyone |
| 10:49.45 | lordknow1 | hahaha |
| 10:49.53 | lordknow1 | man i love dpkg |
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| 10:50.37 | gnetux | simonrvn: thanks for all |
| 10:50.38 | n00b | is there a standard driver for video card to use in linux with x window server? |
| 10:50.56 | [sr] | i wanna samba 3.0.20 in debian:( |
| 10:50.56 | n00b | in winxp we have Standard VGA |
| 10:50.58 | streuner | VESA |
| 10:51.02 | n00b | ok |
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| 10:51.25 | streuner | n00b: if you can't find a driver just use VESA |
| 10:51.26 | pr0nbot | go to www.iwonderifpplwillreadthisbeforetheyrealiseimnotarealpornbotandkickme.com for free porn!!! |
| 10:51.35 | beardy | !we love you |
| 10:51.35 | dpkg | Shame, I hate non-bots. |
| 10:51.48 | streuner | n00b: but most videocards are supported and it exist a driver for them |
| 10:51.48 | EdgEy | lol |
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| 10:51.56 | poncha|work | lol @pr0nbot ;) |
| 10:52.00 | n00b | streuner i have ati card...i see it in the list |
| 10:52.05 | pr0nbot | wow, that actually didnt make sense |
| 10:52.09 | pr0nbot | meh |
| 10:52.10 | n00b | but agpgart will hang on boot... :( |
| 10:52.37 | streuner | n00b: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
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| 10:52.59 | n00b | i dont know...where i can see that? |
| 10:53.05 | n00b | when it hangs? |
| 10:53.14 | beardy | n00b: Run the command that streuner told you. |
| 10:53.23 | lordknow1 | in a term |
| 10:53.26 | n00b | wtf...thats a cmd?....XD |
| 10:53.29 | n00b | sorry.. |
| 10:53.33 | n00b | i thought it is a dir |
| 10:53.37 | lordknow1 | ;P |
| 10:53.42 | beardy | n00b: man cat |
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| 10:54.18 | poncha|work | isnt it much like uname -a ? :) |
| 10:54.26 | SerajewelKS | i've an idea for a program, or audio editor plugin. maybe it's been written already, and if not i'd like some guidance as to what tools/language to use to make it easier. to compare audio codec formats, it'd be handy to decode two different audio files to a WAV, downsample both to mono, and put both on a different stereo channel, switching every X seconds. |
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| 10:54.51 | lordknow1 | uh oh |
| 10:54.56 | lordknow1 | i think i broke my dselect |
| 10:55.02 | EdgEy | yay |
| 10:55.09 | lordknow1 | its hanging half way through setting up the packages |
| 10:55.17 | lordknow1 | what will happen if i force quit out of it |
| 10:55.18 | lordknow1 | ? |
| 10:55.25 | Liroy | Hey all where can I copy paste my error too? |
| 10:55.25 | lordknow1 | will i be able to start again from where i left off |
| 10:55.38 | EdgEy | lordknow1, NO. yes. maybe |
| 10:55.38 | beardy | Liroy: a pastebin or #flood |
| 10:55.42 | lordknow1 | hehe |
| 10:55.42 | poncha|work | you will have packages partually installed/broken... try apt-get -f install then |
| 10:55.46 | nkuttler | lordknow1: not really, but it's ok to interrupt it |
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| 10:56.33 | lordknow1 | what should i do after i force quit it |
| 10:56.38 | nkuttler | lordknow1: which package is not installing correctly? are you running stable? |
| 10:56.48 | lordknow1 | it was a modem thingy |
| 10:56.57 | lordknow1 | trying to autodetect my modem |
| 10:56.59 | nkuttler | modem thingy... |
| 10:57.01 | beardy | lordknow1: Be specific. |
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| 10:57.06 | lordknow1 | wvdial |
| 10:57.07 | nkuttler | wvdial probably |
| 10:57.09 | lordknow1 | yup |
| 10:57.13 | Liroy | This is my error: http://pastebin.com/373581 any ideas what to do =( |
| 10:57.19 | nkuttler | lordknow1: just wait until the autodetection finishes... |
| 10:57.19 | SerajewelKS | or maybe someone can direct me to a better channel to ask |
| 10:57.23 | lordknow1 | Scanning your serial ports for a modem. |
| 10:57.24 | lordknow1 | ircomm0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed at 9600 and 19200 baud. |
| 10:57.31 | lordknow1 | its been stuck here for about 5 minutes |
| 10:57.36 | lordknow1 | should i wait longer? |
| 10:57.37 | nkuttler | SerajewelKS: #somemusiceditingapp? |
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| 10:57.49 | nkuttler | lordknow1: probably not |
| 10:57.53 | SerajewelKS | nkuttler, wow, helpful |
| 10:57.54 | EdgEy | liroy try apache2? ;) |
| 10:57.56 | EdgEy | lol |
| 10:58.15 | nkuttler | SerajewelKS: a pleasure |
| 10:58.18 | lordknow1 | well |
| 10:58.23 | lordknow1 | ima force quit outa it |
| 10:58.34 | Rogue`` | :o |
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| 10:58.38 | lordknow1 | hehe |
| 10:58.39 | EdgEy | :O |
| 10:58.43 | lordknow1 | it just kept on going |
| 10:58.45 | lordknow1 | :D |
| 10:58.45 | Rogue`` | :O |
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| 10:58.54 | lordknow1 | i love debian |
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| 10:58.59 | n00b | m 2 |
| 10:59.00 | Guerin | !cu |
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| 10:59.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, cu is short for "see you", or does not r0x0rz, or "call unix", the uucp modem-dialing program. Cuba A ductile malleable reddish-brown corrosion-resistant iamagnetic metallic element; occurs in various minerals ut is the only metal that occurs abundantly in large masses. Atomic number 29. |
| 10:59.03 | mernil | Greetings and salutations fellow friend of free and open software |
| 10:59.05 | n00b | but i hope it will work with me |
| 10:59.09 | Guerin | cuba has internet!!?!11/ |
| 10:59.18 | nkuttler | lordknow1: you will need to run wvdialconfig (iirc) later |
| 10:59.29 | SerajewelKS | nkuttler, care to give an example? |
| 10:59.33 | lordknow1 | i just wana remove it anyway |
| 10:59.37 | peterS | Guerin: not necessarily but they do have an iso639 country code (: |
| 10:59.44 | Guerin | peterS: heh. |
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| 10:59.50 | nkuttler | SerajewelKS: i don't do audio editing. maybe you should learn which apps exist before coding plugins? |
| 11:00.05 | SerajewelKS | nkuttler, i know what editors exist. none have channels here. |
| 11:00.13 | Guerin | they mostly use .jp addresses, in purest irony |
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| 11:00.22 | peterS | Guerin: /usr/share/iso-codes/iso_693.tab should tell you |
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| 11:00.31 | ryanakca | does anyone know where I could find a telnet daemon that works properly... I know they're insecure, but I'm only using it to telnet to localhost |
| 11:00.40 | peterS | Guerin: that is, if you have the 'iso-codes' package installed. if not, if you have 'miscfiles', look in /usr/share/misc/countries.gz |
| 11:00.40 | SerajewelKS | nkuttler, hence my sarcastic response about yours being helpful |
| 11:00.41 | lordknow1 | telnetd? |
| 11:00.42 | nkuttler | SerajewelKS: you may want to discuss your idea on a mailing list then |
| 11:00.44 | beardy | ryanakca: Use ssh. |
| 11:00.53 | lordknow1 | apt-get install telnetd |
| 11:01.00 | lordknow1 | ssh is just as easy though |
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| 11:01.10 | Rich43 | I want to move a load of files from one folder to another folder with the FTP command. I want to a recursive RNFR and RNTO. |
| 11:01.12 | peterS | I mean iso639.tab of course |
| 11:01.16 | Rich43 | How can i do this? |
| 11:01.36 | Rich43 | do a* |
| 11:01.37 | peterS | or iso_639.tab even. bleh. |
| 11:02.00 | dondelelcaro | Rich43: use lftp and it's mirror command |
| 11:02.09 | beardy | Rich43: Why not mv(1). |
| 11:02.15 | beardy | !folder |
| 11:02.17 | Rich43 | k ty |
| 11:02.19 | dpkg | folder is probably a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet, or what ya do before ya doer |
| 11:02.33 | peterS | *bleh*. iso639 is languages, as I should know very well. check that other file, iso_3166.tab |
| 11:02.47 | n00b | . |
| 11:02.55 | Guerin | peterS: haha |
| 11:03.11 | Guerin | peterS: aptitude is still installing it :) |
| 11:03.16 | peterS | hehe |
| 11:03.46 | ryanakca | beardy, thats not possible for me at the moment, unless you can adapt the command from this site to ssh |
| 11:04.00 | ryanakca | http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/test.html |
| 11:04.06 | beardy | ryanakca: command? |
| 11:04.07 | ryanakca | the part for testing the postfix |
| 11:04.15 | ryanakca | telnet localhost 25 |
| 11:05.05 | timmeh_ | !test |
| 11:05.05 | dpkg | Sorry, timmeh_, I didn't get your test. |
| 11:05.06 | beardy | ryanakca: You don't need telnetd for that. Your mailserver answers at port 25, by itself, without telnetd, do not install telnetd for this. |
| 11:05.31 | Guerin | peterS: KP |
| 11:05.45 | ryanakca | then how do I test it? |
| 11:05.53 | peterS | Guerin: hehe |
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| 11:06.14 | peterS | Guerin: I wasn't quite sure what your 4-letter acronym expanded to, but thanks to those files I know now |
| 11:06.14 | beardy | ryanakca: Just 'telnet localhost 25' haven't you tried before asking? |
| 11:06.27 | Guerin | ryanakca: you don't need a telnetd to use a telnet client |
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| 11:07.00 | ryanakca | DEBIAN:/etc/init.d# telnet localhost 25 |
| 11:07.00 | ryanakca | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| 11:07.01 | ryanakca | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 11:07.01 | ryanakca | DEBIAN:/etc/init.d# |
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| 11:07.06 | timmeh_ | !spank Rich43 |
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| 11:07.10 | timmeh_ | oops |
| 11:07.16 | beardy | haha.. |
| 11:07.20 | Guerin | ryanakca: don't fucking paste |
| 11:07.23 | ryanakca | sorry |
| 11:07.32 | timmeh_ | !spank ryanakca |
| 11:07.35 | Guerin | ryanakca: and now you know your MTA is not running. |
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| 11:08.59 | beardy | lamp__: #ubuntu |
| 11:09.01 | [sr] | how to install the apxs2 toe apache2 ? |
| 11:09.07 | [sr] | or in what package is it in? |
| 11:09.50 | dondelelcaro | [sr]: it's in apache-dev |
| 11:09.54 | dondelelcaro | !tell [sr] -about search |
| 11:09.55 | [sr] | ah |
| 11:09.58 | [sr] | i see |
| 11:10.15 | [sr] | i have apxs for apache1 but didn't remembered how i did installed it |
| 11:10.17 | [sr] | tks |
| 11:10.25 | beardy | !enter |
| 11:10.25 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
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| 11:15.48 | mjk64 | What is the device node for a normal 3-button-PS/2 mouse using udev with devfs.rules? There is neither /dev/psaux, nor /dev/mice/psaux, nor /dev/input/mice. I'm using Debian 3.1 r0a. |
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| 11:16.15 | timmeh_ | how much would i download listening to a 128k stream over 24 hours? |
| 11:16.33 | drac | !psmouse |
| 11:16.33 | Rich43 | Alot |
| 11:16.45 | Rich43 | Get yer calculator out |
| 11:16.52 | peterS | timmeh_: do the math yourself. 128 kbit is 16 kbyte, and there are 86400 seconds in a day |
| 11:17.08 | dspstv | hia, im trying to run as root an opengl application and get this error: freeglut (fluxus): failed to open display ' ' |
| 11:17.19 | dspstv | libglut3 and freeglut3 and its devs are installed... |
| 11:17.28 | Rich43 | 1.3GB :) |
| 11:17.29 | mjk64 | drac: dpkg has no answer for me on "psmouse" :-} Also, its words on "gpm" don't help me. :-/ |
| 11:17.39 | timmeh_ | dpkg: 16*86400 |
| 11:17.39 | dpkg | 1382400 |
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| 11:17.53 | drac | mjk64: Well, it's /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice should also work if correct modules are loaded. |
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| 11:18.02 | Guerin | mjk64: modprobe psmouse |
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| 11:18.09 | dspstv | could my problem opening display ' ' be related to permisions? |
| 11:18.19 | drac | dspstv: Why run it as root? |
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| 11:18.32 | mjk64 | drac, Guerin: psmouse is loaded |
| 11:18.35 | dspstv | cuase it doesnt run as user neither |
| 11:18.59 | dspstv | i m just testing to see if theres a misplaced permission somewhere |
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| 11:19.02 | DarkRaven | does somebody use suspend with file writer? |
| 11:19.10 | drac | dspstv: export DISPLAY=":0.0" or something .. |
| 11:19.11 | peterS | timmeh_: that's right, 1.3 GB |
| 11:19.23 | timmeh_ | ouch.. |
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| 11:19.57 | svizzero | anyone knows why after booting the debian install cd without framebuffer support the system hangs after booting the kernel? |
| 11:19.57 | dspstv | but...like if i say, i try to run glxgears as root an get: couldn't open display '(null)' |
| 11:19.59 | peterS | timmeh_: think of it this way, you could download 1.3 GB of pr0n in a day just by pulling down a steady stream at a mere 16 kbyte / sec |
| 11:20.03 | mjk64 | drac, Guerin: there's /dev/mouse -> gpmdata, but gpm doesn't seem to accept that, either. gpm always silently exits (exit code 0), independent from the mouse-device I tell it to use. |
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| 11:20.29 | peterS | mjk64: you want gpm to use /dev/input/mice then |
| 11:20.34 | peterS | mjk64: with protocol 'exps2' |
| 11:20.42 | peterS | mjk64: dpkg-reconfigure gpm will let you do that |
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| 11:20.59 | timmeh_ | peterS: hrm, interesting.. |
| 11:21.03 | peterS | mjk64: also, you may as well tell it not to bother with the repeater, since you're using /dev/input/mice |
| 11:21.04 | mjk64 | peterS: I'll try |
| 11:21.13 | ptlis | Is there a switch one can use so that when one greps the files contained in a directory the line number the string was found on is output too. |
| 11:21.18 | peterS | mjk64: instead of the repeater you can just tell X to also use /dev/input/mice, and protocol ExplorerPS/2 |
| 11:21.19 | marstewel | does debian package strong swan ? |
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| 11:21.35 | mjk64 | peterS: And it doesn't matter that /dev/input/mice doesn't exist at all? |
| 11:21.42 | timmeh_ | maybe i should upgrade to unlimited downloads... |
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| 11:21.45 | peterS | mjk64: it doesn't? I wonder why not |
| 11:21.55 | peterS | mjk64: what kernel version have you got? are you using udev? |
| 11:22.15 | mjk64 | peterS: I'm using udev, normal Sarge kernel (2.6.8, I think) |
| 11:22.19 | peterS | mjk64: oh never mind, you're using a 2.6 kernel, I see now |
| 11:22.23 | dspstv | drac, the export display thing did the trick...but i will like to learn or understand why i have to export display as user so to allow root to run a program? |
| 11:22.23 | marstewel | the only *swan packages I found are free- and openswan... |
| 11:22.27 | peterS | mjk64: you need to also load the 'mousedev' module |
| 11:22.32 | peterS | mjk64: that's what actually provides /dev/input/mice |
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| 11:23.04 | peterS | mjk64: psmouse is a 'backend', mousedev is a 'frontend', they talk to each other through the input layer |
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| 11:23.07 | SynrG | marstewel: then that's your answer. you can also check the wnpp to see if anyone has requested it or is working on it |
| 11:23.39 | SynrG | marstewel: www.debian.org/devel/wnpp |
| 11:23.42 | mjk64 | peterS: wow ... the mousedev module ... can't believe it - where should I have read about /that/? :-} I'm new to kernel 2.6, to be honest ... |
| 11:23.55 | mjk64 | peterS: Hah, the device is there! |
| 11:24.06 | peterS | mjk64: not sure where you're supposed to learn things like this. I learned it while following linux kernel 2.5 development directly... |
| 11:24.12 | n00b | can i use nic in debian if i boot with pci=off |
| 11:24.12 | mjk64 | peterS: okay, the mouse doesn't work yet, but gpm has loaded using "gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t ps2" |
| 11:24.23 | rss | Hi! How to terminate a X session through a command... without ruining the window manager's integrity(that would be damaged by losing its session) |
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| 11:24.30 | rss | I use Window Maker |
| 11:24.34 | mjk64 | peterS: Okay, maybe I should have read the "post-halloween-2.6.txt" doc |
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| 11:24.43 | peterS | mjk64: that should have worked. are you trying to get gpm to work (mouse on console) or is this an intermediate step to getting the mouse to work in X or something? |
| 11:25.00 | timmeh_ | rss: log out? |
| 11:25.12 | rss | A command. |
| 11:25.17 | marstewel | SynrG: hmm not on wnpp page... |
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| 11:25.19 | mjk64 | peterS: console only ... maybe the mouse is broken, I'm switchin off now and getting a different mouse to test |
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| 11:25.31 | peterS | rss: I was always fond of 'kill -1 -1' but that doesn't exit "cleanly", exactly |
| 11:25.34 | marstewel | I doubt that no debian users are using strongswan |
| 11:25.38 | rss | That could be invoked through a launcher |
| 11:25.44 | timmeh_ | rss: why? |
| 11:25.54 | rss | kill -SIGTERM to works... but again... |
| 11:25.54 | SynrG | marstewel: another search strategy is google, site:lists.debian.org |
| 11:25.55 | peterS | mjk64: ah ok. the kernel input layer is very nearly foolproof once you've loaded the right modules, unless you have weird or malfunctioning hardware. |
| 11:26.12 | SynrG | marstewel: this would give you an indication if it were discussed. some things are not on the wnpp for good reasons. |
| 11:26.15 | rss | I am taking part in a desktop beautification contest |
| 11:26.18 | peterS | mjk64: thus the mere fact of loading 'psmouse' and 'mousedev' is supposed to be the only thing you have to worry about |
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| 11:26.29 | rss | for that I using Window Maker with gdesklets |
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| 11:27.06 | rss | with all dockapps, appicons and mini-windows disabled. A launcher from gdesklets |
| 11:27.19 | peterS | rss: perhaps window maker has a command you can use to signal it to log out nicely. that'll be window manager specific, I am pretty sure there isn't anything in ICCCM about it |
| 11:27.24 | n00b | streuner...i ran 'cat /proc/version' command...it says Linux version 2.6.8-2-38/\6 |
| 11:27.29 | n00b | 386* |
| 11:27.35 | rss | That is what I trying to find |
| 11:28.01 | linuxg0d | lol |
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| 11:28.25 | resiak | rss: If you were to use xfce4-session, you could use `xfce4-session-logout`, for instance. |
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| 11:28.45 | Mardus | Hi. |
| 11:28.54 | EdgEy | Hi. |
| 11:29.00 | resiak | Moo. |
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| 11:29.06 | timmeh_ | !moo |
| 11:29.06 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 11:29.10 | Mardus | resiak: Moo back :D |
| 11:29.13 | rss | I know... my tweaking has come really eye-candy yet fully usable even with 32MB of RAM |
| 11:29.34 | rss | I can't replace the window manager |
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| 11:29.41 | Zedman | hallo. somebody has an idea how to enable a medion saa7134 tv-card? |
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| 11:29.48 | jc-denton | hi all |
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| 11:29.56 | jc-denton | i have a question concerning tetex 3? |
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| 11:30.05 | jc-denton | when will it come into debian? |
| 11:30.05 | resiak | rss: Use xfce4-session and only that, with no other bits of xfce4 |
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| 11:30.19 | jc-denton | is there already an inoffical/experimental package? |
| 11:30.35 | peterS | Zedman: don't know, but there exists a 'saa7134' series of kernel modules |
| 11:30.37 | ryanakca | it says to install with dselect, will apt work? |
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| 11:30.47 | Mardus | Anyways, I'm in the process of setting up a newer version of chkrootkit. Its setup asks, whether I'd like to have it run every day. Which would be a favourable action? |
| 11:30.49 | mjk64 | peterS: Works *perfectly* with the new mouse! So just the "mousedev" module was missing and the old mouse was broken. Damn, now I know why I put that large (but unlabelled) sticker on the mouse! Thanks, Peter! |
| 11:30.54 | caphuso | jc-denton: yes |
| 11:30.55 | peterS | Zedman: including saa7134, saa7134-dvb and saa7134-empress. I don't know what they do |
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| 11:31.15 | Zedman | peterS: yeah, thats right. modprobe saa7134 works. |
| 11:31.22 | peterS | mjk64: ha. mouse broken. nice to know you solved it. as I said, in X configuration just use "/dev/input/mice" and protocol "ExplorerPS/2" |
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| 11:31.40 | mjk64 | peterS: Why must it be ExplorerPS/2? |
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| 11:31.51 | mjk64 | peterS: Just to support a wheel? (I hate mouse wheels) |
| 11:31.51 | jc-denton | caphuso: where? |
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| 11:32.00 | peterS | mjk64: doesn't have to be, it can be "PS/2" or "ImPS/2" if you prefer |
| 11:32.14 | peterS | mjk64: the kernel /dev/input/mice is really a mouse *emulator* device, and can emulate any of those three protocols |
| 11:32.16 | mjk64 | peterS: Ah, ok! |
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| 11:32.31 | peterS | mjk64: no harm done if your physical mouse or mice do not have wheels, the kernel emulated device will pretend it does |
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| 11:32.41 | mjk64 | peterS: A mouse emulator? Wow, how perverted ... and abstract ... and good! |
| 11:32.42 | caphuso | jc-denton: experimental |
| 11:32.50 | jc-denton | ok |
| 11:32.55 | jc-denton | but why not in unstable |
| 11:33.06 | peterS | mjk64: it eliminates guesswork from configuration of userspace programs like X and gpm. the kernel takes care of what the mouse really does, and presents a single unified mouse type via /dev/input/mice |
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| 11:33.18 | caphuso | probably because the maintainers think it's not ready yet for unstable |
| 11:33.37 | peterS | mjk64: so if you use the 'sermouse' kernel module, you can have a serial mouse. if you use 'usb-hid', you can have a USB mouse. and gpm / X need never be the wiser |
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| 11:33.49 | mjk64 | peterS: Very cool, indeed! |
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| 11:34.23 | Mardus | Question: Should I enable chkrootkit to run daily or not? |
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| 11:34.42 | resiak | Answer: Do you want it to run daily or not? |
| 11:34.52 | peterS | mjk64: the problem is that while the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer PS/2 protocol is featureful enough to cover most mice (up to 5 buttons plus a wheel), it doesn't cover all mouse types. so there are times when this is a limitation. fortunately there is another emulated protocol you can use instead, which I won't get into, but you can go read up on 'evdev' if you really care (: |
| 11:34.54 | timmeh_ | Mardus: should you shower daily? personal choice i gues.. |
| 11:35.06 | caphuso | omega, for example, is broken |
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| 11:35.35 | mjk64 | peterS: :-) Btw.: Is there a kind of generic hardware abstraction layer in kernel 2.6? |
| 11:35.39 | Mardus | resiak: I don't know. I know what chkrootkit does, but I'd need some advice on whether it's a favourable action or not to run it daily. That's why I'm here, otherwise, if I knew, I wouldn't ask. |
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| 11:35.52 | Mardus | timmeh_: Mostly, I do shower daily. |
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| 11:36.13 | peterS | mjk64: the input layer is a hardware abstraction layer for keyboards, mice, joysticks, touchscreens, and the like. there isn't an overarching unified hardware abstraction thing, though, just individual models for individual subsystems |
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| 11:36.46 | timmeh_ | Mardus: just say yes.. why not run it daily? it only takes about 1 min.. |
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| 11:36.55 | peterS | mjk64: for example, scsi disks are scsi disks and this has been true since the beginning of time. that's an abstraction layer of sorts. (scsi disks also include USB drives, firewire drives, etc.) |
| 11:37.07 | Mardus | timmeh_: Ah well, then I'll put "yes"... |
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| 11:37.43 | mjk64 | peterS: Ah, okay ... so Linux is still evolving ;-) |
| 11:37.49 | peterS | mjk64: always |
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| 11:38.16 | Liroy | If you want something from another debian package tree how would you apt-get it? apt-get install testing package? for example? |
| 11:38.32 | peterS | mjk64: there *has* been talk of bringing scsi and non-scsi disks together under a "disks" umbrella. it didn't happen for 2.6 but it will probably happen for kernel 2.8 if that ever comes to pass. or for later 2.6 iterations, at some point, if not |
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| 11:38.46 | dondelelcaro | Liroy: use the -t foodist or /foodist options to apt-get; see pinning for examples on how to do it. |
| 11:38.49 | caphuso | Liroy: on a stable or on an unstable box? |
| 11:38.56 | Liroy | stable |
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| 11:39.07 | dondelelcaro | Liroy: of course, you should realize that that sort of thing is likely to lead to a very broken system if you do it haphazardly |
| 11:39.09 | mjk64 | peterS: I'd looking forward to seeing that in the kernel - or better a generic HAL, if that ever happens |
| 11:39.16 | peterS | mjk64: devices do use a more or less unified device tree now, in sysfs. this was done to support sane power management, like suspend/resume |
| 11:39.36 | caphuso | Liroy: then you don't, generally speaking. look for a backport or do your own |
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| 11:39.49 | Liroy | dondelelcaro: Yes I understand, of course I dont want EVERY single package just one or two that I would like to test. |
| 11:39.53 | peterS | mjk64: you can explore this in the /sys filesystem if you wish |
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| 11:40.03 | mjk64 | peterS: Haven't bothered with power management yet - I'm happy if everything simply works ;-) |
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| 11:40.30 | Mardus | Liroy: Look into backports.org and apt-get.org (if you have woody, look for woody builds, but woody is old. If you have sarge, look for sarge builds (sarge=stable). |
| 11:40.35 | dondelelcaro | Liroy: right, but often you can't just install those specific packages; the sane way to do this is to use a backport. |
| 11:40.36 | mjk64 | peterS: Have had a little peek in/upon/to(?) it already |
| 11:40.41 | peterS | mjk64: right, /sys was created to make power suspend/resume and things like that easier (knowing what devices to shut down in what order), but is also useful as an organization and configuration tool in its own right |
| 11:41.43 | Liroy | Thanks for your Help |
| 11:41.45 | Mardus | Thanks for advice. |
| 11:41.49 | mjk64 | peterS: I'm really keen on reporting the many bugs and peculiarities I've found in using Debian for two days ... I hope this "reportbug" stuff works well ... |
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| 11:42.15 | peterS | mjk64: reportbug usually works pretty well, if your outgoing mail works smoothly |
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| 11:42.31 | peterS | since it just shoves a bug report into your outgoing mail queue and leaves it at that |
| 11:42.41 | timmeh_ | mjk64: err. make sure you check google and bts before going crazy with reportbug.. |
| 11:42.50 | mjk64 | peterS: Good! Ah, btw: How can I see in the Debian bug tracking system, whether a bug is OPEN/CLOSED/FIXED/RE-blahed/whatever? |
| 11:42.53 | peterS | timmeh_: fortunately reportbug *does* check the bts |
| 11:42.58 | mjk64 | timmeh_: 8-) |
| 11:43.03 | mjk64 | timmeh_: I will. |
| 11:43.17 | timmeh_ | oh |
| 11:43.19 | peterS | mjk64: the web interface is the most straightforward, just http://bugs.debian.org/packagename for a nice index |
| 11:43.46 | dondelelcaro | or just do the following: |
| 11:43.49 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 300000 |
| 11:43.52 | dpkg | DONE:#300000:M[libcrypt-ssleay-perl] libcrypt-ssleay-perl: package description typo(s) and the like; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:07:20 UTC |
| 11:43.56 | peterS | mjk64: the debbugs software is way dialed down compared to bugzilla, and we like it that way. 32000 display options and 14000 state flags are not our idea of fun |
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| 11:44.05 | mjk64 | dondelelcar: dpkg is cool! |
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| 11:44.22 | dondelelcaro | it's actually quite a bit more complex than bugzilla is in some other ways... |
| 11:44.36 | hcy | anyone know of a tool for creating a udf filesystem to burn to a dvd, similar to mkisofs for iso's ? |
| 11:44.43 | peterS | dondelelcaro: well, perhaps, but the UI is so much simpler. though with the javascript footers everywhere now, it's a bit less so |
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| 11:44.45 | mjk64 | peterS: But e.g. in <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276840>, how can I see if this issue has been resolved already? |
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| 11:44.54 | caphuso | zsh: abort (core dumped) sysctl -N dev.cdrom |
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| 11:45.41 | mjk64 | dondelelcaro: More complex than bugzilla? Oh ... I hope this doesn't scare away too much ppl reporting bugs |
| 11:45.45 | peterS | mjk64: 'resolved' is 'closed' in debian bugs terminology. or 'fixed' if it's fixed in the archive but the maintainer hasn't closed it yet, for one reason or another |
| 11:46.11 | mjk64 | peterS: Okay, and where can I see this status on e.g. <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276840> ? |
| 11:46.27 | Rogue` | u know when ur building somthing, with ./configure make and make install....which part should i be su? |
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| 11:46.33 | dondelelcaro | mjk64: that bug is still open |
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| 11:46.39 | peterS | mjk64: it doesn't say it's closed so it's not closed. check an old bug like 10000 or so |
| 11:46.48 | mjk64 | peterS: okay, testing |
| 11:46.51 | peterS | mjk64: you'll see the difference in a header right near the top of the page |
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| 11:47.13 | mjk64 | peterS: Aaaaaaaah! I can see it now! |
| 11:47.13 | peterS | mjk64: the "Done: Branden Robinson" is actually what it says to mean closed |
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| 11:47.44 | j0bezone | Rogue`, only the "make install" . This is if you want to install the program system-wide (so all users can acess it). |
| 11:48.20 | mjk64 | peterS: But inconsistent terminology: in #100000, it's "done", and in #100840, it's "Fixed" (which I'd prefer). Should I prefer terminology inconsistencies as a bug? ;-) |
| 11:48.28 | timmeh_ | gelignite: what are you? |
| 11:48.43 | peterS | mjk64: that's the result of a recently added feature to track which version(s) a bug is present in and which version(s) it was finally fixed in |
| 11:48.47 | j0bezone | Rogue`, make does the actual compilation, so after you finish it, you can already use the program (whose executable is usually place inside a "bin" directory in the source directory) |
| 11:48.48 | mjk64 | peterS: Hmm ... I'd really prefer a kind of *flag* or so ... not human prose. |
| 11:48.52 | peterS | mjk64: some old bugs have had this metadata added to them, some have not |
| 11:49.27 | mjk64 | peterS: I see ... so in future, there will be such formalized metadata like "fixed" etc. for all packages? |
| 11:49.33 | peterS | mjk64: you can get machine-parseable flags with an LDAP gateway to the BTS. but that requires LDAP query code to make use of |
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| 11:49.52 | peterS | mjk64: scraping web pages is somewhat less fun but it's also easier to hack together |
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| 11:50.29 | mjk64 | peterS: Okay, thx, it's good to know that there is such an interface. |
| 11:50.41 | mjk64 | peterS: Yeah =) |
| 11:51.07 | peterS | mjk64: BTS metadata includes: versions the bug exists in, versions the bug no longer exists in (it's implied that later versions are also fixed), tags applied to the bug, a flag for whether the bug is still open at all |
| 11:51.33 | peterS | mjk64: the tags include a tag called 'fixed' which means someone other than the package maintainer has uploaded a fix. the maintainer is supposed to acknowledge the validity of the fix before the bug is actually closed. |
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| 11:51.52 | Rogue` | k, thnx j0bezone |
| 11:51.53 | mjk64 | peterS: Aaaaah, good! |
| 11:52.06 | peterS | mjk64: this is, I suppose, confusing for end-users, who don't care much about the difference between the official maintainer and whoever-last-uploaded-a-version-of-this-package |
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| 11:52.38 | mjk64 | peterS: At least I'd prefer verified fixes from the official maintainer. |
| 11:53.12 | peterS | mjk64: that's why it's rude to actually close a bug "belonging" to a different maintainer. because a non-maintainer presumably doesn't know the package as well, so he could falsely believe an issue to be completely dealt with |
| 11:53.13 | mjk64 | peterS: The older I get, the more I value stability and consistency. |
| 11:53.23 | peterS | hence the 'fixed' tag |
| 11:54.01 | mjk64 | peterS: I promise to never close other people's bug's. :-) |
| 11:54.04 | peterS | heh |
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| 11:54.37 | peterS | you're free to close a bug *you* submitted, btw, if you know it no longer applies. like if it turns out to be user error, or the maintainer uploaded a fix that you verify |
| 11:55.39 | peterS | it's interesting how much mileage debian has gotten from the BTS interface not having any authentication procedures *at all*. random anonymous people can close or otherwise manipulate bugs, but there are surprisingly few problems with this |
| 11:56.15 | peterS | presumably most vandals wouldn't want to go to the trouble of figuring out an email interface to the thing. clicking forms on web pages is another matter, and one debbugs doesn't support. |
| 11:57.33 | mjk64 | peterS: Interesting ... even Wikipedia works perfectly without authorization |
| 11:57.55 | peterS | well, not perfectly. people have to police it actively |
| 11:58.04 | peterS | and same with bugs.debian.org, but very very little, it seems to me |
| 11:58.04 | Guerin | mjk64: you need to have an account and sign into wikipedia, do you not? |
| 11:58.17 | mjk64 | peterS: Yeah, but what is perfect these days ... |
| 11:58.37 | Guerin | fluffybunnygirl92@hotmail.com could close all the RC bugs the day before a release if she figured out how... |
| 11:58.41 | mjk64 | Guerin: No. I have one, but you don't need one. Just your IP address is being used when you edit an article. |
| 11:58.48 | Guerin | mjk64: oh, ok. |
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| 12:00.29 | resiak | Guerin: Maybe she should some day... |
| 12:00.33 | midas | \q |
| 12:00.38 | midas | ay.... |
| 12:00.44 | resiak | midas: /quit |
| 12:00.55 | midas | thnx resiak ! |
| 12:01.02 | resiak | hthhand. |
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| 12:03.35 | timmeh_ | !hi |
| 12:03.35 | dpkg | hello, timmeh_ |
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| 12:07.19 | resiak | Now, I know about /msg dpkg free memory, and understand it, but surely my system shouldn't thrash swap when switching between workspaces which contain only a single terminal each, with only X.org, XFce4 and musicpd running on a machine with 256MB of RAM. This smacks of breakage --- any thoughts as to what I should poke? (Yes, this is an open-ended question, so shoot me. :)) |
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| 12:07.36 | mjk64 | peterS: When I choose to not use GPM as repeater, will the mouse work perfectly on both console and X simultaneously? |
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| 12:08.23 | peterS | mjk64: yes, since it's an emulated device. the kernel just keeps two such things in its memory |
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| 12:09.42 | mjk64 | peterS: Perfect, thanks! |
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| 12:10.22 | peterS | mjk64: the gpm repeater was designed for use with non-emulated mouse hardware, the kind it is possible to confuse horribly by having two different programs both talking to it each thinking it is in charge |
| 12:10.39 | peterS | mjk64: the kernel deals with keeping multiple state machines just fine, so /dev/input/mice makes the gpm repeater obsolete |
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| 12:10.54 | klemzi | hi, can somebody tell me if i can install ASP.NET and mssql under debian ? tnx |
| 12:11.01 | resiak | ...\ |
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| 12:11.07 | mjk64 | peterS: Okay, this sounds too good to be true. ;-) |
| 12:11.23 | peterS | heh |
| 12:11.25 | peterS | (sorry) |
| 12:11.28 | mjk64 | ;-)) |
| 12:11.34 | mjk64 | *lol* (sorry, too) |
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| 12:11.52 | rutski89 | klemzi: I don't think so :-p |
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| 12:12.01 | rutski89 | klemzi: try mono and MySQL |
| 12:12.09 | resiak | rutski89: itym postgresql. |
| 12:12.18 | rutski89 | resiak: sure, thats good too |
| 12:12.20 | klemzi | but asp works under debian ? |
| 12:12.28 | rutski89 | klemzi: maybe, I'm no expert |
| 12:12.39 | resiak | rutski89: You say that as if MySQL was good. |
| 12:12.49 | rutski89 | klemzi: but I can pretty surely tell you that mssql won't work under *nix |
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| 12:13.11 | rutski89 | resiak: hehe, I don't really have enough experience to say either is good |
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| 12:13.32 | klemzi | aham.. |
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| 12:13.40 | Deek | MySQL doesn't suck much, but pgsql is pretty sweet. |
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| 12:14.20 | SerajewelKS | oh god, not more db wars |
| 12:14.24 | klemzi | i have now server on windows 2003, and i run some asp pages.. and i will migrate everything to some |
| 12:14.26 | klemzi | *nix |
| 12:14.34 | klemzi | and im asking if this will work :\ |
| 12:14.56 | rutski89 | SerajewelKS: lol |
| 12:14.56 | Rich43 | its possible |
| 12:15.00 | Rich43 | Apache::ASP |
| 12:15.05 | Rich43 | :) |
| 12:15.10 | rutski89 | Rich43: sweet |
| 12:15.12 | klemzi | Rich43 what about mssql ? :D |
| 12:15.22 | Deek | klemzi: not a chance. |
| 12:15.23 | Rich43 | well theres mysql :-/ |
| 12:15.28 | SerajewelKS | after the mysql bigots and the pgsql bigots have exhausted themselves, maybe we'll have a decent discussion about the facts |
| 12:15.30 | rutski89 | klemzi: i second that |
| 12:15.54 | Deek | Hey, I did say MySQL doesn't suck much. |
| 12:16.00 | rutski89 | SerajewelKS: but someone will probably bring up hilter first :-p |
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| 12:16.15 | klemzi | dunno if asp.net will work with mysql ;\ |
| 12:16.17 | Deek | (that's a pretty high compliment coming from me) |
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| 12:16.28 | SerajewelKS | Deek, it doesn't suck at all. you use one or the other depending on what you need. |
| 12:16.31 | pkern | Please ban [L][A][D][Y] for on-join spamming. |
| 12:17.01 | Rich43 | they usually ask for evedence right? |
| 12:17.13 | Deek | SerajewelKS: Now now, they all suck. |
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| 12:17.34 | Deek | SerajewelKS: Just in different areas and ways. |
| 12:17.44 | pkern | Anyway: Is there a way to let Qt applications look nicer aka how to switch qt themes without touching KDE? |
| 12:17.46 | SerajewelKS | Deek, so you view the glass as half empty then ;) |
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| 12:18.09 | pkern | Rich43: Nevermind, I recalled the way to contact ops after my short-circuit action. (: |
| 12:18.13 | flux | hello :) i've got an X problem sometimes ; sometimes, every things in X is real-real small (pictures-icons and text ....) . after a reboot, it could be fix, or again very small, no-readable.... |
| 12:18.20 | Deek | SerajewelKS: MySQL is a pretty well-rounded DBMS for light-to-medium duty. |
| 12:18.26 | rutski89 | pkern: I'd assume theres some build into function in the Qt libraries, I'm no expert though |
| 12:18.43 | flux | somebody have had the problem, or know where i could find a clue to fix it please ? |
| 12:18.43 | sn00p | i have a mp3 player and its usb how do I mount the usb in linux? is it sda? |
| 12:18.49 | pkern | The Qt apps look so ugly (: |
| 12:19.01 | SerajewelKS | Deek, which is my point. you use mysql for fast and small things, and you use pgsql when you need stored procedures (among other things). |
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| 12:19.20 | dondelelcaro | just use postgresql always. you'll be happier. |
| 12:19.32 | peterS | right, there's no reason you can't use postgresql for fast and small things |
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| 12:19.39 | SerajewelKS | flux, i used to have that problem when i used redhat. i don't remember how i got it to stop, or if it just magically fixed itself. |
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| 12:19.55 | peterS | except for third-party php applet support, which for some reason is still weighted toward mysql |
| 12:20.17 | dondelelcaro | it's PHP... they've been insane for quite some time |
| 12:20.20 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro, no i won't, because i'd have to migrate everything and i would only gain a bunch of features that i won't be using. that would not be a happy experience. |
| 12:20.33 | rutski89 | peterS: Thats probably because phpMyAdmin is so cool 8) |
| 12:20.44 | Rich43 | mysql is fast enough for me :P |
| 12:20.45 | peterS | SerajewelKS: if it's a matter of migrating something that already exists, then obviously you have to determine whether there's any benefit |
| 12:20.46 | Deek | I wouldn't use pgsql for small stuff. |
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| 12:21.03 | Deek | It's like swatting a fly with a jackhammer. |
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| 12:21.03 | SerajewelKS | peterS, exactly. there isn't any benefit at all. |
| 12:21.06 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: clearly I'm talking about new code where you have a choice. |
| 12:21.10 | Rich43 | dont big websites use mysql |
| 12:21.15 | Rich43 | like wikipedia |
| 12:21.18 | Rich43 | mayb? |
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| 12:21.30 | flux | SerajewelKS: ok, thanks ... ; would you have the keyword in english for google to search if someone talk about it, because i didn't find... |
| 12:21.30 | Deek | Rich43: That's still medium-duty. |
| 12:21.42 | cyrius | hi |
| 12:21.45 | Deek | Maybe even light duty. |
| 12:21.50 | SerajewelKS | from what i have read, mysql is more stable and scales better, while pgsql has a lot of cutting-edge features. so you pick and choose what you need. |
| 12:21.58 | cyrius | someone speak spanish? |
| 12:21.59 | xnet | i'm looking to buy a joystick for game play, what should i watch out for? |
| 12:22.10 | SerajewelKS | flux, nah, it's a pretty broad range of keywords unfortunately |
| 12:22.19 | peterS | more stable? scales better? I have never heard either of those w/r/t mysql |
| 12:22.22 | flux | ... |
| 12:22.27 | Deek | Yo vaya con jamon y savoyas. |
| 12:22.34 | cyrius | muy bien deek |
| 12:22.38 | dondelelcaro | cyrius: #debian-es |
| 12:22.44 | cyrius | te puedo hacer una pregunta |
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| 12:23.05 | SerajewelKS | i think a bug just flew up my nose |
| 12:23.06 | Deek | d'oh! vayo |
| 12:23.07 | shay | cyrius, no acó, te acaban de decir que vayas a preguntar en español en #debian-es |
| 12:23.14 | shay | s/acó/acá/g |
| 12:23.24 | cyrius | sorry bye bye |
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| 12:24.10 | peterS | SerajewelKS: use reportbug to report it |
| 12:24.15 | OleMoudi | a friend of mine can't type <> chars with his keyboard on debian, is this a common issue? I haven't experienced that problem |
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| 12:24.39 | SerajewelKS | peterS, Getting status for nose... No matching source or binary packages. |
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| 12:24.42 | dondelelcaro | OleMoudi: no, it's not... sounds like they didn't select the right keyboard mapping for their keyboard. |
| 12:24.42 | peterS | OleMoudi: it used to be common with an old release of XFree86. I thought that particular keymap issue was solved at least a year ago, though |
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| 12:25.19 | SerajewelKS | flux, what X server and version are you using? |
| 12:25.22 | pkern | qt3-qtconfig... |
| 12:25.30 | flux | sarge's one |
| 12:25.46 | SerajewelKS | !info xserver-xfree sarge |
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| 12:26.06 | flux | in fact, it's not me, but a friend of me who experiences this problem... |
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| 12:26.21 | peterS | that's what they all say (: |
| 12:26.23 | SerajewelKS | !info xserver-xfree86 sarge |
| 12:26.27 | Stipey | I'm running on testing, but I would like to have a package from unstable (php5). I RTFA and found out how to install a specific package from unstable, but will I be able to switch back when that package reaches testing? (How?) |
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| 12:26.32 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 (sarge), Packaged size: 5607 kB, Installed size: 15616 kB |
| 12:26.57 | peterS | Stipey: if that particular package reaches testing, you won't need to "switch back", it's the same package anyway |
| 12:27.05 | SerajewelKS | flux, oh i think i remember. ask the friend if he's running xfs (x font server) |
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| 12:27.19 | peterS | Stipey: if it doesn't, but a newer package eventually reaches testing, a normal upgrade will pull it down normally |
| 12:27.30 | mjk64 | peterS: Why should I set a sample rate in GPM when the (PS/2) mouse generates interrupts? I'm slightly confused ... |
| 12:27.34 | flux | if yes, i tell him to apt-get remove ? |
| 12:27.37 | Stipey | peterS> But won't unstable always have a newer version? |
| 12:27.52 | SerajewelKS | flux, no, you tell me "yes" =) |
| 12:28.11 | peterS | mjk64: you normally ignore that. with some mouse hardware it's possible to tell the mouse to change its sample rate. with a kernel emulated mouse device I don't think there's any point |
| 12:28.19 | peterS | Stipey: no, sometimes it has the same version as testing |
| 12:28.34 | flux | well, i don't know when i'll be able to tell you "yes"... i phone him to see if he awake... |
| 12:28.35 | mjk64 | peterS: Okay, thx! |
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| 12:28.49 | Stipey | ok, thanks |
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| 12:29.28 | p{3}s | hi |
| 12:29.33 | GSF_nothing | weee |
| 12:29.40 | p{3}s | hello! everyone |
| 12:29.45 | GSF_nothing | debian n00b here needing a little help :) |
| 12:29.58 | dondelelcaro | !tell GSF_nothing -about ask |
| 12:30.21 | GSF_nothing | linux in-jokes go right over my head so don't bother :P |
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| 12:30.30 | shay | hi nakeee |
| 12:30.35 | SerajewelKS | GSF_nothing, joke? |
| 12:30.51 | nakeee | hey Shay:) what's up? |
| 12:31.13 | shay | nakeee, everything's just cool :) beregila ;D, you? |
| 12:31.34 | GSF_nothing | SerajewelKS - it's something that makes you laugh |
| 12:31.36 | nakeee | shay, need to take a long vecation from work;) |
| 12:31.37 | GSF_nothing | ;-) |
| 12:31.45 | GSF_nothing | anyway, can anyone tell me how to fix my IP? |
| 12:31.46 | peterS | GSF_nothing: the point is, we won't just jump up and say "how can I help you", the right thing to do is just ask your question and see what happens |
| 12:31.47 | SerajewelKS | GSF_nothing, yeah um, i didn't see any joke |
| 12:31.57 | SerajewelKS | GSF_nothing, fix your ip? wtf? |
| 12:32.07 | SerajewelKS | !tell GSF_nothing about smart questions |
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| 12:32.15 | Phr0zenKore_ | LOL |
| 12:32.20 | Phr0zenKore_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.20 | Phr0zenKore_ | XD |
| 12:32.25 | GSF_nothing | I've just barely installed debian and every time it boots, it queries my router for ip info |
| 12:32.28 | peterS | Phr0zenKore_: we don't care |
| 12:32.38 | peterS | GSF_nothing: and this isn't what you want it to do? |
| 12:32.40 | Phr0zenKore_ | alright sorry |
| 12:32.47 | GSF_nothing | and for some reason I haven't worked out, that seems to reset the connection to THIS system |
| 12:32.51 | GSF_nothing | correct. |
| 12:32.55 | shay | GSF_nothing, edit /etc/network/interfaces then |
| 12:32.56 | nkuttler | GSF_nothing: man interfaces |
| 12:33.05 | peterS | GSF_nothing: what should it be doing? a static IP address? |
| 12:33.10 | GSF_nothing | yeah |
| 12:33.20 | GSF_nothing | static |
| 12:33.25 | peterS | GSF_nothing: run 'etherconf' if it's on your system |
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| 12:33.52 | GSF_nothing | syntax for running that? |
| 12:34.07 | peterS | just type etherconf |
| 12:34.16 | peterS | it's an interactive program that asks you about network settings |
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| 12:36.33 | n00b | in debian...where can i set my laptop ip,subnet,gateway,pri.dns and sec.dns? |
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| 12:36.44 | Jerub | n00b: in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:36.48 | n00b | ty |
| 12:36.49 | Jerub | n00b: man interfaces |
| 12:37.03 | n00b | i type that in term? |
| 12:37.25 | Jerub | uhh, the second one is a manual for how to configure the first. |
| 12:37.35 | Jerub | and yes, the second you type in a terminal. |
| 12:37.42 | ULTRA-noob | ok |
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| 12:37.59 | squishy | okay |
| 12:38.04 | squishy | this is GSF_nothing |
| 12:38.16 | peterS | squishy: so, what's new? |
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| 12:38.38 | ULTRA-noob | nano /etc/network/interfaces... :D |
| 12:38.39 | squishy | can't run etherconf OR edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:38.48 | squishy | I'll try that ;-) |
| 12:38.58 | rutski89 | ULTRA-noob: do you know how to use nano? :-p |
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| 12:39.02 | ULTRA-noob | no |
| 12:39.03 | peterS | squishy: yeah by 'edit' we meant to use an editor, such as nano |
| 12:39.04 | ULTRA-noob | XD |
| 12:40.01 | ULTRA-noob | in the file there is a comment talking about resolvconf |
| 12:40.07 | ULTRA-noob | where is that"? |
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| 12:40.53 | squishy | peterS - when I say n00b, I mean COMPLETE n00b. |
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| 12:41.11 | squishy | :D |
| 12:41.15 | Phated | FFS, STOP changing your nick. |
| 12:41.18 | COMPLETE-n00b | i am too... :( |
| 12:41.25 | Phated | COMPLETE-n00b: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 12:41.27 | COMPLETE-n00b | sorry |
| 12:41.31 | COMPLETE-n00b | ty |
| 12:41.42 | caphuso | or apt-cache show resolvconf |
| 12:41.43 | squishy | anyway. In /etc/network/interfaces, under Primary Network Connection or whatever |
| 12:41.46 | squishy | I get the lines |
| 12:41.49 | squishy | auto eth0 |
| 12:41.55 | peterS | /nick NICK-COMPLETION-n00b |
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| 12:42.04 | squishy | iface eth0 ined dhcp |
| 12:42.18 | COMPLETE-n00b | mine is static |
| 12:42.22 | COMPLETE-n00b | not dhcp |
| 12:42.27 | peterS | squishy: right, instead of 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' you want 'iface eth0 inet static' and then a couple more lines |
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| 12:42.38 | COMPLETE-n00b | btw...i am not really that noob...i am mcsd.net... :D |
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| 12:42.59 | peterS | squishy: lines like 'address 10.4.4.44' and 'netmask 255.255.255.0' and 'gateway 10.4.4.250' |
| 12:42.59 | COMPLETE-n00b | i fix these problems in winxp while my eyes are closed...XD |
| 12:43.11 | Deek | <yoda>You must unlearn what you have learned...</yoda> |
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| 12:43.39 | peterS | Deek: now now. he usually uses VOS or so, no? |
| 12:43.41 | squishy | gotcha peterS, that's exactly what I need :D |
| 12:44.02 | peterS | squishy: you still need the 'auto lo' and 'iface lo inet loopback', mind you |
| 12:44.09 | Phated | COMPLETE-n00b: You feel that this is relevant when you're trying to fix it on Debian... why? :) |
| 12:44.15 | jochensp | Hi, I've just updated my mdadm package on testing and it sayed, that I probably have to exec "mdadm --zero-superblock" but I didn't find any docu about it |
| 12:44.28 | COMPLETE-n00b | i dont know |
| 12:44.31 | COMPLETE-n00b | do u knopew |
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| 12:44.51 | COMPLETE-n00b | sorry for typos...i am on old pc...with bad kbd... |
| 12:44.56 | peterS | jochensp: really? that's a pretty rare case |
| 12:45.03 | Phated | COMPLETE-n00b: Could you explain that further? |
| 12:45.41 | COMPLETE-n00b | Phated...how to set my primary and secondry dns address in linux/debian? |
| 12:45.45 | jochensp | peterS: the message or that I have to execute it? |
| 12:45.56 | COMPLETE-n00b | so i can join this room from my linux laptop...:D |
| 12:46.05 | peterS | jochensp: I don't know why it would have given you that message. having to run that is a pretty rare thing, I believe |
| 12:46.11 | peterS | !room |
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| 12:46.11 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 12:46.12 | Phated | COMPLETE-n00b: Enter them in /etc/resolv.conf. Didn't I... tell you this, a few minutes back? |
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| 12:46.21 | nothing_GSF | christ |
| 12:46.23 | nothing_GSF | can I not stay connected for 3 minutes?! |
| 12:46.26 | nothing_GSF | :( |
| 12:46.27 | COMPLETE-n00b | i missed that line...sorry |
| 12:46.28 | Phated | Apparently not. |
| 12:46.35 | nothing_GSF | anyway, I've edited the file... how do I save changes? |
| 12:46.42 | jochensp | peterS: can I test if I have to do it? |
| 12:46.55 | peterS | jochensp: did it tell you *why* you might have to? |
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| 12:47.12 | COMPLETE-n00b | nothing_GSF...wont nano ask u wethere if u want to save the file or not when exiting? |
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| 12:47.26 | nothing_GSF | probably... how do you exit? :D |
| 12:47.31 | COMPLETE-n00b | :D |
| 12:47.33 | Phated | COMPLETE-n00b: Can you elaborate on that? |
| 12:47.33 | nothing_GSF | esc? |
| 12:47.34 | jochensp | peterS: "If you are using hard disks which have a md superblock from an earlier installation.." |
| 12:48.13 | peterS | jochensp: that means if you've put hard disks in which were used as raid arrays on a different system |
| 12:48.29 | Deek | COMPLETE-n00b: ^O to save, ^X to exit. |
| 12:48.42 | Phated | Deek: Think that's nothing_GSF who needs to know. |
| 12:48.43 | nothing_GSF | ^ being shift+6? |
| 12:48.49 | _SerhaT_ | nothing_GSF: control |
| 12:48.51 | peterS | or you've reinstalled the system and are using a different raid configuration from before, and some partitions might still have old raid superblocks on them to confuse mdadm |
| 12:48.54 | nothing_GSF | aha |
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| 12:49.04 | Deek | oops |
| 12:49.05 | lama_ | hi |
| 12:49.05 | Deek | :) |
| 12:49.23 | COMPLETE-n00b | Phated...i have this line in resolv.conf: nameserver 195.226.224.72 |
| 12:49.24 | jochensp | peterS: oh ok.. haven't done that; they where created with the debian installer about two month ago.. and where jetzt running till then |
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| 12:49.35 | COMPLETE-n00b | how do i add a secondary dns server address |
| 12:49.35 | peterS | jochensp: you're fine, then |
| 12:49.46 | jochensp | peterS: ok, thank you very much |
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| 12:50.05 | streuner | uhm, its right in the screen of nano :-) (how to save files) |
| 12:50.11 | COMPLETE-n00b | i just add the same line again with the other address? |
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| 12:50.14 | shingouz | COMPLETE-n00b: newline and another 'nameserver ip.add.re.ss' |
| 12:50.16 | Phated | COMPLETE-n00b: Yes. |
| 12:50.22 | COMPLETE-n00b | ok |
| 12:50.26 | nothing_GSF | ok, now I think I might be getting somewhere |
| 12:50.40 | nothing_GSF | cheers, you guys are a lot more helpful than the quakenet #linux channel :D |
| 12:50.51 | streuner | heh |
| 12:50.55 | peterS | nothing_GSF: heh |
| 12:50.59 | lama_ | i have question, i recompiled my kernel and after reebot my system stopping in ttyS0$ at port 0x4080(irq=11) is a 16550A, what is wrong? |
| 12:51.00 | shingouz | are we? wow |
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| 12:51.17 | lama_ | i have question, i recompiled my kernel and after reebot my system stopping after line ttyS0$ at port 0x4080(irq=11) is a 16550A, what is wrong? |
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| 12:51.44 | streuner | lama_: what's wrong with an official kernel? |
| 12:52.01 | COMPLETE-n00b | OMG...i get [ Could not open file for writing: Permission denied ]... :( |
| 12:52.12 | lama_ | streuner: sorry, my english is poor, what do you mean? |
| 12:52.19 | _SerhaT_ | COMPLETE-n00b: try with root ? |
| 12:52.22 | COMPLETE-n00b | ok |
| 12:52.24 | nothing_GSF | rofl |
| 12:52.26 | streuner | COMPLETE-n00b: read FAQ about permissions |
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| 12:52.41 | nothing_GSF | I'm beginning to understand why the t-shirt saying "got root?" is funny |
| 12:52.46 | streuner | !tell COMPLETE-n00b about faq |
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| 12:53.14 | streuner | lama_: just use an official kernel |
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| 12:54.00 | nothing_GSF | ok, so now I've updated my kernel, got a static IP... what's next? |
| 12:54.00 | lama_ | streuner: i download linux-2.4.31.tar.gz from kernel.org archives :/ |
| 12:54.02 | streuner | dpkg, custom kernel |
| 12:54.02 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
| 12:54.15 | Phr0zenKore_ | nothing_GSF: now i get it (the t-shirt joke) too! XD |
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| 12:54.35 | COMPLETE-n00b | ty for the faqs |
| 12:54.40 | NyteRukh | morning |
| 12:54.44 | COMPLETE-n00b | i started to like debian...:D |
| 12:54.46 | Cyberax | guys channel topic "xorg in sid, etch" makes it sound like xorg is in etch, but according to dpkg it aint, someone clarify for me? |
| 12:54.54 | peterS | Cyberax: it is |
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| 12:55.23 | nothing_GSF | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/sysadmin/280d/ |
| 12:55.23 | Cyberax | peterS: cheers, Im doing an apt-get dist-upgrade now ya see |
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| 12:55.32 | peterS | Cyberax: see http://packages.debian.org/xserver-xorg |
| 12:55.35 | nothing_GSF | everyone must get that shirt :D |
| 12:55.47 | lama_ | streuner: i testing more configuration options in kernel but always my system stop after line ttyS0$... |
| 12:55.51 | asg | nothing_GSF: I'm wearing it right now in fact |
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| 12:55.58 | nothing_GSF | dammit |
| 12:55.59 | peterS | asg: yeah but you're asg |
| 12:56.00 | knoppix1234 | is this working_ |
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| 12:56.12 | nothing_GSF | heh asg, you should see the t-shirt I got that makes my girlfriend laugh |
| 12:56.15 | nothing_GSF | it says |
| 12:56.15 | Cyberax | peterS: will do |
| 12:56.15 | streuner | lama_: have fun, there are more than 500 options to configure kernel nowdays... |
| 12:56.18 | asg | peterS: heh, mine is now grey with age (like my hair and goatee) |
| 12:56.21 | nothing_GSF | Roses are #FF0000 |
| 12:56.26 | knoppix1234 | sorry just check |
| 12:56.31 | nothing_GSF | Violets are #0000FF |
| 12:56.37 | nothing_GSF | All of my base |
| 12:56.41 | nothing_GSF | Are Belong To You |
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| 12:56.58 | Phr0zenKore_ | all, what should i use? emacs or vim? |
| 12:57.03 | lama_ | streuner: what have i do to run this kernel? download another version of kernel? |
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| 12:57.05 | SerajewelKS | !start an editor war |
| 12:57.05 | resiak | !start an editor war |
| 12:57.06 | dpkg | "cat >" bites |
| 12:57.07 | COMPLETE-n00b | nano |
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| 12:57.14 | peterS | Phr0zenKore_: they're both fine choices. I think emacs is more n00b-friendly but they each have plenty of fans |
| 12:57.15 | asg | Phr0zenKore_: whichever is most comfortable and useful to you. |
| 12:57.18 | SerajewelKS | resiak, lol |
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| 12:57.27 | lama_ | strenuer: linux-2.4.<another>?:)) |
| 12:57.33 | Phr0zenKore_ | i use vim now, but i always press wrong keys and then stuff happens which i don't want. |
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| 12:57.51 | SerajewelKS | Phr0zenKore, not vim's fault that you hit wrong keys =P |
| 12:57.57 | Phr0zenKore_ | :P |
| 12:58.07 | Phr0zenKore_ | i mean, i think i'm in input mode, i'm not |
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| 12:58.09 | Reilithion | Ok, why is the 2.6.12 kernel image not recognizing my Atheros wifi card? Do I have to get a new version of the madwifi driver or what? |
| 12:58.14 | Phr0zenKore_ | then all is completely *** up |
| 12:58.15 | Phr0zenKore_ | :p |
| 12:58.20 | peterS | IN SOVIET RUSSIA, vim hits wrong keys and *you* beep |
| 12:58.22 | resiak | Phr0zenKore_: So run vimtutor |
| 12:58.24 | nothing_GSF | I need a t-shirt that says "My other system is a Linux" |
| 12:58.32 | SerajewelKS | Phr0zenKore, i do that a lot too. |
| 12:58.38 | Phr0zenKore_ | resiak: do i really have to spend my time with that? :P |
| 12:58.39 | asg | nothing_GSF: join cafepress.com, print your own |
| 12:58.42 | SteveLab | nothing_GSF: lol wonder what Mr Bill was thinking posin for this http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/sysadmin/280d/action/2103d50/ |
| 12:58.55 | resiak | Phr0zenKore_: If you want to use vim, it _really_ helps. |
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| 12:59.04 | Phr0zenKore_ | alrightj |
| 12:59.06 | Phr0zenKore_ | alright* |
| 12:59.21 | Phr0zenKore_ | i did that a while ago, but i only learned the basics |
| 12:59.26 | nothing_GSF | Steve - that image is disturbing |
| 12:59.28 | Phr0zenKore_ | and some things i forgot |
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| 12:59.45 | nothing_GSF | so, gents |
| 12:59.47 | Phated | The basis will get you editing a file. <shrug> To each his own, and to everyone else, use nano. |
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| 12:59.57 | nothing_GSF | if I want to get a GUI running |
| 13:00.01 | asg | !drx nothing_GSF |
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| 13:00.11 | asg | hmmm |
| 13:00.13 | nothing_GSF | what do I do, after getting a static IP |
| 13:00.19 | nothing_GSF | and updating kernel? |
| 13:00.19 | peterS | nothing_GSF: install 'x-window-system-core' and 'gnome', I guess |
| 13:00.48 | nothing_GSF | that's all it needs? |
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| 13:01.02 | asg | nothing_GSF: for a minimal gnome, yes. |
| 13:01.20 | abrotman | that's not the minimal gnome metapackage |
| 13:01.23 | Phated | gnome isn't exactly... minimal. Not with that package name. |
| 13:01.32 | asg | though 'gnome' and 'minimal' don't belong in the same sentacne |
| 13:01.35 | asg | eep |
| 13:01.43 | asg | *sentence |
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| 13:02.15 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 13:02.15 | dpkg | somebody said install gnome was to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-session to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 13:02.17 | peterS | he didn't say minimal. is there a more minimal one he ought to use? I don't run gnome at the moment |
| 13:02.23 | peterS | ahh |
| 13:02.37 | linoleum | hello, what is the difference between using , for exemple : "apt-build install lyx", and "apt-get build-deb lyx" then "apt-get -b source lyx" ??? I dont understand |
| 13:02.41 | abrotman | though .. that doesn't seem quite right either . but oh well |
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| 13:03.12 | peterS | linoleum: 'apt-get -b source' builds from source. 'apt-get install' installs a pre-built binary |
| 13:03.31 | peterS | linoleum: practically, the only difference is disk space and CPU time |
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| 13:04.00 | ryanakca | in the Web-Cyradm on debian Woody HOWTO, it says to dpkg -i webcyradm_0.5.3-1_all.deb |
| 13:04.07 | ryanakca | Where can I optain such a file? |
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| 13:04.19 | peterS | ryanakca: if the howto doesn't explain where to get the file, it's probably a bug in the howto |
| 13:04.22 | Phated | peterS: apt-build install, though? |
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| 13:04.46 | peterS | Phated: I don't use apt-build install, or for that matter apt-get -b source, so I'm not sure what they do differently, as a technical matter |
| 13:04.58 | Phated | peterS: Ah, fair enough. and how are you this fine day? |
| 13:05.08 | linoleum | peterS, no sorry, I wrote : apt-BUILD install lyx :) .. I dont understand the difference between apt-build and apt-get build-deb + apt-get -b source |
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| 13:05.22 | COMPLETE-n00b | i am going to try and install CORE... :D |
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| 13:05.26 | asg | peterS: good job on nospambot.pl btw. |
| 13:05.26 | COMPLETE-n00b | with X.ORG |
| 13:05.36 | peterS | Phated: great, thanks. I should sleep some, it being 8 in the morning, but I did so little of consequence yesterday (and slept in so late) that it doesn't feel all that necessary |
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| 13:05.44 | abrotman | !install gnome =~ s/gnome-session/gnome-core/ |
| 13:05.45 | dpkg | OK, abrotman |
| 13:05.46 | peterS | asg: heh, it's a very simple script. simple yet effective. |
| 13:05.52 | asg | peterS: indeed |
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| 13:06.10 | Phated | peterS: Heh. Well, if you don't need to, don't bother, eh. :) |
| 13:06.18 | Mr_Morden | anyone knows here Total Commander for Windows? I'd like to know if something similar exists for KDE |
| 13:06.30 | peterS | Phated: I do feel as though I should have more to show for a weekend than what I have so far |
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| 13:06.44 | Phated | peterS: Feh, weekends aren't meant to have things to show for. :) |
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| 13:07.20 | peterS | Phated: that's the other way of looking at it. but it was such a fine Saturday in which to accomplish things. or should've been. |
| 13:07.39 | Phated | peterS: True. I did not accomplish much, though, so I'm not bothered. :) |
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| 13:08.39 | peterS | Phated: oh well - some time late last night I fixed some english translations of the description and rules for a game to be uploaded to debian. that is something at least. (the guy doing the upload is a French speaker so his English sounded pretty French-influenced) |
| 13:09.15 | asuffield | but does the game blow? |
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| 13:09.29 | peterS | haven't tried it yet |
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| 13:09.48 | peterS | the rules of the game are still a bit unclear even after my editing because I wasn't sure what it was actually trying to say in places |
| 13:10.02 | Phated | Heh. |
| 13:10.07 | peterS | it's a strategy board game that sounds vaguely similar to chinese checkers |
| 13:10.12 | Juanjo-ar | Hi, I need somehelp installing a usb-epson-C63 printer at a debian sarge box |
| 13:10.13 | Phated | cool. |
| 13:10.31 | asuffield | so the rules were written by a guy who doesn't speak english and a guy who doesn't know what the rules are |
| 13:10.32 | peterS | 'biloba' by name, I hadn't heard of it |
| 13:10.42 | peterS | asuffield: that's one way of putting it |
| 13:10.57 | resiak | Mr_Morden: mc ? |
| 13:10.58 | NyteRukh | (saliva) |
| 13:10.58 | Juanjo-ar | can you drop me some lines? |
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| 13:11.17 | peterS | actually I understand he took an existing 'RULES.fr' file and translated it, imperfectly. whether the original RULES.fr is any clearer, I haven't bothered to check |
| 13:11.24 | abrotman | modprobe usblp |
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| 13:11.47 | lama_ | FUCK |
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| 13:12.07 | abrotman | that'd be nice |
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| 13:12.11 | asuffield | not right now, thanks |
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| 13:12.34 | lama_ | FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK |
| 13:12.44 | resiak | :screw lama_ |
| 13:12.47 | resiak | !screw lama_ |
| 13:12.48 | nkuttler | lama_: that will get you kicked really fast |
| 13:12.48 | mjk64 | lama_: Whom? |
| 13:12.49 | resiak | EBOT |
| 13:12.51 | Juanjo-ar | abrotman: |
| 13:12.57 | Juanjo-ar | sarge:/home/juanjo# modprobe usblp |
| 13:12.57 | Juanjo-ar | sarge:/home/juanjo# |
| 13:12.58 | asuffield | foursome? |
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| 13:13.17 | Juanjo-ar | throws nothing, is ti good? |
| 13:13.31 | peterS | Juanjo-ar: that's normal |
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| 13:13.45 | peterS | Juanjo-ar: could be good or bad, but a module saying nothing as it is installed is normal |
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| 13:14.00 | abrotman | lsusb might help |
| 13:14.02 | Juanjo-ar | peterS: so what should I do to put my printer to word? |
| 13:14.13 | lama_ | nkuttler: no, sorry, i'm very angry:/ |
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| 13:14.31 | asuffield | that's "horny", not "angry" |
| 13:14.34 | peterS | Juanjo-ar: I've not been following what type of printer it is or anything. I also have no experience with USB printers in Linux, so I am not certain what the app support entails |
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| 13:14.58 | asuffield | C6x is completely trivial, throw cups at it and go |
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| 13:15.41 | Juanjo-ar | asuffield: I have installed it a cups, but it doesn't work |
| 13:15.53 | asuffield | SAY THAT FIRST |
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| 13:16.01 | Juanjo-ar | should I need something like grimpprints? |
| 13:16.15 | buehler011 | im new to exim. what is the equivalent of sendmal.mc i need to know where to put blacklist entries |
| 13:16.16 | Juanjo-ar | asuffield: sorry |
| 13:16.27 | abrotman | buehler011: #exim |
| 13:16.33 | buehler011 | thx |
| 13:16.36 | peterS | buehler011: read /etc/mail/exim.conf and see where it's looking for stuff |
| 13:16.42 | Mr_Morden | anyone knows where Opera does store the user information (cookies/wand)? |
| 13:16.42 | abrotman | buehler011: or use one you know |
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| 13:16.58 | peterS | buehler011: right, that's the other option - debian *does* still have sendmail in it |
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| 13:17.03 | asuffield | somebody walk him through finding the errors in the logs, I've got stuff to do |
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| 13:17.47 | Juanjo-ar | asuffield: thanks, no prob |
| 13:18.05 | Juanjo-ar | which error logs should I read? |
| 13:18.09 | COMPLETE-n00b | where to get etch cd image? |
| 13:18.09 | abrotman | peterS: wrong emphasis :) |
| 13:18.12 | COMPLETE-n00b | it is not on this page |
| 13:18.13 | COMPLETE-n00b | http://www.us.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 13:18.23 | abrotman | install sarge and upgrade |
| 13:18.35 | COMPLETE-n00b | abrotman...cant make it work... :( |
| 13:18.45 | abrotman | can't make WHAT work ? |
| 13:18.48 | COMPLETE-n00b | i am installing it on laptop |
| 13:18.53 | abrotman | so what? |
| 13:18.59 | COMPLETE-n00b | it hangs |
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| 13:19.01 | abrotman | i installed sarge on more than one laptop |
| 13:19.04 | COMPLETE-n00b | and i get segmentation fault |
| 13:19.08 | abrotman | with linux24 and linux26 ? |
| 13:19.13 | COMPLETE-n00b | linux26 |
| 13:19.15 | COMPLETE-n00b | now |
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| 13:19.18 | COMPLETE-n00b | but both hangs |
| 13:19.23 | abrotman | did you try linux (which is 2.4)? |
| 13:19.26 | COMPLETE-n00b | uunless i boot with pci=off |
| 13:19.29 | abrotman | did you ask #debian-boot ? |
| 13:19.33 | COMPLETE-n00b | yes i did |
| 13:19.37 | COMPLETE-n00b | no i didnt ask there |
| 13:19.38 | abrotman | and what did they say ? |
| 13:19.43 | abrotman | make up your mind |
| 13:19.49 | COMPLETE-n00b | i will ask there... |
| 13:19.50 | COMPLETE-n00b | 1 min |
| 13:19.58 | COMPLETE-n00b | didnt know that channel exists... :D |
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| 13:20.11 | shingouz | !tell COMPLETE-n00b about laptop |
| 13:20.14 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 13:20.14 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/ |
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| 13:20.24 | shingouz | !beer abrotman |
| 13:20.26 | abrotman | i'm a dirty bot! |
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| 13:20.54 | shingouz | jfc, wtf is that "beer" then? |
| 13:21.13 | COMPLETE-n00b | !acpi |
| 13:21.14 | dpkg | it has been said that acpi is Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or http://acpi.sf.net/ |
| 13:21.22 | abrotman | !apic |
| 13:21.22 | dpkg | hmm... apic is Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller, a new PIC, and about time too... Can be disabled on boot by adding noapic (and nolapic for local apic) to your boot parameters. |
| 13:21.35 | simonrvn | @fartfish |
| 13:21.36 | ravenbird | fartfish |
| 13:21.37 | abrotman | shingouz: dogfish is a brewery .. in Delaware iirc |
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| 13:22.02 | shingouz | abrotman: sounds good... fishy |
| 13:22.03 | abrotman | shingouz: http://www.dogfish.com/ |
| 13:22.10 | abrotman | though .. dogfish may not be dogfishhead |
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| 13:22.29 | abrotman | of course .. don can't spell so well :) |
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| 13:23.02 | abrotman | oh .. it's Dogfish Head .. oh well |
| 13:23.02 | roberto | hallo! |
| 13:23.04 | simonrvn | shit, GTG soon. need coffee though. *sigh* |
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| 13:23.12 | roberto | i'm itaian! |
| 13:23.26 | roberto | speak italian? |
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| 13:23.54 | abrotman | !it |
| 13:23.54 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 13:25.31 | simonrvn | blah. then i killfile all of 'em :) |
| 13:25.43 | NyteRukh | killfile? |
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| 13:26.34 | darky | hello, Does anyone know how to make a logitech quickcam work ? |
| 13:26.39 | peterS | NyteRukh: inside joke. he killfiled all my kawfees. |
| 13:26.44 | asg | NyteRukh: /msg dpkg plonk |
| 13:26.46 | HaNazir | what is a good console based chat like aim or icq, much like gaim? |
| 13:26.49 | peterS | NyteRukh: he said he needed coffee, but kawfee is quite a different animal |
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| 13:26.58 | asg | HaNazir: bitlbee + irssi-text |
| 13:26.59 | NyteRukh | okies |
| 13:27.01 | Jerub | HaNazir: centericq or irssi |
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| 13:27.04 | abrotman | HaNazir: centericq |
| 13:27.10 | simonrvn | eh, 14C this morning |
| 13:27.16 | priest | darky, which cam? |
| 13:27.17 | By-Tor | darky: What does google have to say about it? |
| 13:27.23 | peterS | I wish it were 14C here |
| 13:27.29 | HaNazir | i can irssi for aol and msn? |
| 13:27.34 | By-Tor | centericq rulez. |
| 13:27.40 | Jerub | HaNazir: no, but you can use centericq |
| 13:27.41 | asg | HaNazir: yes if you use bitlbee (irc -> im gateway) |
| 13:27.47 | abrotman | peterS: isn't it raining ? |
| 13:27.51 | simonrvn | peterS: how hot is it then? (or cold?) |
| 13:27.52 | mjk64 | peterS: Where are you located? |
| 13:28.03 | linoleum | please, what is the difference between apt-build and apt-src ??? |
| 13:28.06 | peterS | abrotman: not yet. we're thinking it'll rain at some point here, thanks to hurricane rita |
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| 13:28.08 | HaNazir | asg, bitlbee works with msn and aol? what about this pork thing? |
| 13:28.09 | peterS | mjk64: central US |
| 13:28.24 | asg | HaNazir: pork thing? |
| 13:28.29 | mjk64 | peterS: and what's your temperature there right now? |
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| 13:28.39 | abrotman | peterS: i blame n00bs! |
| 13:28.40 | HaNazir | asg, yeah pork thats what its called |
| 13:28.41 | asg | HaNazir: oh that, I've no idea |
| 13:28.56 | HaNazir | asg, but centercq is more than just icq? |
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| 13:29.08 | Jerub | HaNazir: yes |
| 13:29.18 | peterS | mjk64: I don't know, 'metar -d kict' says it is 19C but it feels warmer |
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| 13:29.28 | asg | HaNazir: bitlbee is an irc server that listens on localhost and connects to multiple IM services that you define. You then use your favorite IRC client to access bitlbee so everything has the same nice interface. |
| 13:29.30 | peterS | (metar is a handy debian package) |
| 13:30.03 | mjk64 | peterS: Hey, metar is nice! Alas, not for German weather servers (if there's such a thing, I only now websites) |
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| 13:30.08 | HaNazir | Jerub, msn? |
| 13:30.11 | priest | darky: I'm using the spca5xx-driver to my Quickcam, but there is many diffrent quickcams from Logitech. |
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| 13:30.27 | Jerub | HaNazir: yes. |
| 13:30.29 | peterS | mjk64: I thought metar supported european weather stations as well. hmmm. |
| 13:30.32 | Jerub | HaNazir: please read about it yourself. |
| 13:30.47 | NyteRukh | brb |
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| 13:30.51 | mjk64 | peterS: I just read the package description, nothing else yet |
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| 13:31.33 | mjk64 | peterS: "Metar is a small utility that will download meteorological reports for aviation from the NOAA FTP server" |
| 13:31.41 | NyteRukh | going to see if i can get a cheap hd for the other comp (jim) |
| 13:31.49 | COMPLETE-n00b | is it possible for me to know the content of a debian iso image before downloading?...like what packages it contains.... |
| 13:31.53 | peterS | mjk64: right but I think that server keeps weather data from airports all over the world |
| 13:32.11 | asg | COMPLETE-n00b: /msg dpkg cd contents |
| 13:32.15 | mjk64 | peterS: I'll check that |
| 13:32.15 | simonrvn | mjk64: it fetches .ca data, e.g. montreal, dorval |
| 13:32.16 | COMPLETE-n00b | ok...ty |
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| 13:32.35 | simonrvn | (FYI, CYUL) |
| 13:32.43 | mjk64 | simonrvn: okay, I'll give it a try =) |
| 13:33.15 | peterS | mjk64: from the manpage: http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_bbsss.txt - if your city is listed there, you can use the 4-letter code in the third column |
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| 13:33.56 | simonrvn | @wb mentor |
| 13:33.57 | mjk64 | Are packages automatically fetched by "aptitude install <blah>" marked as automaticall installed, so that a following "aptitude remove <blah>" will remove these packages (semi)automatically? |
| 13:33.57 | ravenbird | Welcome back mentor, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
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| 13:34.02 | mjk64 | peterS: thx! Looking up ... |
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| 13:34.30 | resiak | mjk64: That's kinda the whole point of aptitude :) |
| 13:34.49 | penguin42 | auto module loading: I've just upgraded a machine to sarge and it is refusing to autoload a driver on access to /dev/sg2 (I've kept the old kernel that Iw as using before - a 2.4.22) - any suggest debug for this, the entry in /etc/modutils.conf looks right |
| 13:35.01 | mjk64 | resiak: :-) Okay, hope it works. Hate the package management to leave unused packages behind. |
| 13:35.07 | HaNazir | what is the mp3 app for console? |
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| 13:35.21 | HaNazir | btw centericq rocks, thanx :) |
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| 13:35.24 | peterS | mjk64: yes, aptitude does 'auto-installed' tracking from the command line as well as the UI. of course the package you specify at the command line is not 'auto', but its dependencies are. |
| 13:35.28 | _Emanuel_ | isn't there any xchat 2.4.5 version for debian package? |
| 13:35.30 | _Emanuel_ | ffs |
| 13:35.33 | mjk64 | peterS: At least there's Frankfurt / M., which is 60 km from here, that should do. |
| 13:35.38 | peterS | HaNazir: mpg123, cplay |
| 13:35.48 | mjk64 | peterS: Perfect, thx! |
| 13:35.51 | peterS | HaNazir: I mean mpg321. there is also mp3blaster but I haven't heard about it in awhile |
| 13:35.52 | penguin42 | mjk64: It is hard to know what an unused package is; I mean just because nothing depends on frozenbubble doesn't mean it should be uninstaleld |
| 13:35.56 | HaNazir | peterrooney, wanst there another one? |
| 13:36.16 | HaNazir | peterS, right mp3blaster |
| 13:36.21 | asg | peterS: last time I tried mp3blaster, it SEGV'd a lot. I use mpd + mpc now for everything audio. |
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| 13:36.26 | resiak | penguin42: aptitude keeps track of what you explicitly install and what is merely pulled in as a dependency. |
| 13:36.27 | greenman | hi folks |
| 13:36.34 | mjk64 | penguin: If it got installed /automatically/, then it's unused, if nothing else depends on it. |
| 13:36.37 | penguin42 | resiak: Neat! |
| 13:36.37 | peterS | mjk64: 60 km is a lot if you just want to know the exact temperature outside, though |
| 13:36.40 | greenman | does anybody knows a good howto about how this apt-key stuff works? |
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| 13:36.49 | greenman | where do i get the keys from? |
| 13:36.54 | Phr0zenKore_ | argh |
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| 13:37.12 | peterS | greenman: individual apt download sites should tell you where to get their keys |
| 13:37.18 | Phr0zenKore_ | i'm trying to install Windows XP (i know, shame on me, but i need it for some things (like testing exploits (A)), on qemu |
| 13:37.21 | HaNazir | last thing what is the best text based browser with ssl support? and is there a gkt-gnutella console equivalent? |
| 13:37.22 | peterS | greenman: the key used by the main debian archive should already come with apt |
| 13:37.23 | mjk64 | peterS: Yes, actually simply opening the window would do, too. :-} But I like command line interfaces. =) |
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| 13:37.31 | resiak | Phr0zenKore_: That's nice. |
| 13:37.38 | Phr0zenKore_ | but err.. |
| 13:37.42 | Phr0zenKore_ | now i need to login |
| 13:37.48 | Phr0zenKore_ | i didn't set any pass |
| 13:37.57 | peterS | mjk64: I'm not good at estimating temperature. the METAR report from the airport 15 km away is more accurate than my skin |
| 13:38.03 | Phr0zenKore_ | and i waited for like 3 hours |
| 13:38.04 | Phr0zenKore_ | -_- |
| 13:38.19 | mjk64 | peterS: I'm not good at estimating *anything* :-/ |
| 13:38.22 | asg | Phr0zenKore_: if you didn't enter a password, just hit enter instead of entering one. |
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| 13:38.37 | greenman | peterS: for example for ftp.de.debian.org, where can i get this key from? afaik there is no certain website for this server |
| 13:38.40 | Phr0zenKore_ | asg: "Access Denied" |
| 13:38.41 | penguin42 | hmm 'alias char-major-21-2 epst' looks ok - what kicks off the autoload |
| 13:38.42 | Phr0zenKore_ | stuff like that. |
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| 13:38.53 | peterS | greenman: that's just a mirror of ftp.debian.org, and that key should already come with apt |
| 13:38.54 | abrotman | isn't there a #qemu ? |
| 13:38.58 | asg | Phr0zenKore_: then ask a #windows channel I guess. |
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| 13:39.01 | Phr0zenKore_ | oh sorry |
| 13:39.03 | Phr0zenKore_ | didn't see that |
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| 13:39.18 | asg | abrotman: it's not related to qemu, it's a Windows question. qemu runs XP just fine. |
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| 13:39.33 | abrotman | yay |
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| 13:39.52 | peterS | greenman: you can see what keys you've got now: gpg --homedir /tmp --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --list-keys |
| 13:40.02 | abrotman | peterS: sleep ? |
| 13:40.14 | asg | !be bob2 |
| 13:40.14 | peterS | abrotman: me? |
| 13:40.14 | dpkg | asg: I'm going to bed now, really |
| 13:40.28 | abrotman | peterS: didn't you say you were going to bed .. like 30 minutes ago ? |
| 13:40.46 | peterS | abrotman: I said I *ought* to. I didn't say I would. in fact I also said it didn't feel as though I had to |
| 13:40.54 | abrotman | oh |
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| 13:41.06 | peterS | I'm starting to get a little bit heavy-lidded now though |
| 13:41.30 | greenman | peterS: ok, i got 2 keys from ftpmaster@debian.org, this includes also security.debian.org right? |
| 13:41.32 | peterS | who is arma? |
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| 13:41.45 | abrotman | peterS: it is arma! |
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| 13:41.49 | peterS | are you implying that I used to arma-whore on slashdot? |
| 13:41.53 | nerve | hey guys, does anyone here use sylpheed with their gmail account? |
| 13:42.13 | abrotman | peterS: no .. he's a developer .. |
| 13:42.15 | peterS | greenman: yes. they generate a new key every year, so you should have the ones for 2004 and 2005 |
| 13:42.27 | greenman | ok, thank you very much peterS :) |
| 13:42.44 | peterS | keys 1024R/1DB114E0 and 1024D/4F368D5D |
| 13:43.11 | _roberto | help! |
| 13:43.18 | _roberto | non riesco a registrarmi |
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| 13:43.28 | _roberto | vome faccio a chattare in privato? |
| 13:43.30 | abrotman | !it |
| 13:43.30 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 13:43.31 | asg | !tell _roberto about it |
| 13:43.39 | peterS | non parliamo italiano |
| 13:44.24 | krassy1809 | my ISP do not have a DNS , what i have to do ? |
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| 13:44.37 | simonrvn | later folks. off to the pow-wow |
| 13:44.39 | asg | krassy1809: run your own |
| 13:44.41 | abrotman | get a new ISP |
| 13:44.42 | asg | simonrvn: later |
| 13:44.50 | abrotman | powwow ? |
| 13:44.51 | krassy1809 | how ? |
| 13:44.59 | peterS | krassy1809: yeah you can always run bind9 yourself, pointing straight to the root servers |
| 13:45.01 | asg | krassy1809: apt-get install bind-doc (read), consult #dns |
| 13:45.01 | abrotman | !dns |
| 13:45.44 | mjk64 | Is there a tool which tells the current time on different locations? Something like: "showtime montreal/canada" or "showtime berlin/germany" or just "showtime berlin" |
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| 13:45.53 | linoleum | hello , I dont understand : I run apt-build install lyx, and at the end, it say segmentation fault .... ?? why?? |
| 13:45.56 | peterS | krassy1809: I *believe* a default install of 'bind9' will set you up as a caching nameserver. then just put 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' in resolv.conf |
| 13:45.58 | asg | krassy1809: it is possible your ISP does have one though; install dnsutils and 'dig <isp.domain> ns'. See if any of the resultant ones work |
| 13:46.28 | asg | linoleum: bad memory, overheating CPU? |
| 13:46.32 | peterS | mjk64: TZ=Canada/Eastern date |
| 13:46.42 | peterS | mjk64: you can do 'ls /usr/share/zoneinfo' for the possible values of TZ |
| 13:46.47 | mjk64 | peterS: Hey, not bad! |
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| 13:47.17 | peterS | not a particularly "friendly" interface, but it works well enough |
| 13:47.18 | linoleum | asg, lol no, everythings run great |
| 13:47.23 | mjk64 | peterS: I *love* solving problems using "onboard tools" (is that the appropriate expression in English?) |
| 13:47.44 | asg | linoleum: if you have segfaults when compiling, it usually indicates memory issues. |
| 13:47.52 | mjk64 | peterS: I might write a little script for that ... although the interface is nearly perfect already |
| 13:47.55 | peterS | mjk64: not sure what you mean by 'onboard tools' exactly. maybe "tools already installed"? |
| 13:48.18 | faked | I want to have my usb-harddisc automatically mounted after booting, so my fstab entry looks like the following: /dev/sdf1 /mnt/extern ntfs auto,users,uid=fake,ro 0 0 |
| 13:48.19 | pablob | hi, I have this deb line in my sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~fenio/warzone/, but it doesnt work? what do i have to put? |
| 13:48.23 | mjk64 | peterS: Exactly. In German "Bordmittel". |
| 13:48.25 | peterS | mjk64: the problem is that you have to browse through /usr/share/zoneinfo to see what the valid timezone names are. an interface that would let browse them through menus or something would be nice |
| 13:48.35 | faked | but it doesn't work, so whats wrong with my fstab-entry? |
| 13:49.05 | mjk64 | peterS: Oh, I was too fast ... Hmm ... yeah, that's only the time zone ... I'll see what I can do with it ... |
| 13:49.05 | pablob | faked: what happens when you do mount -a? |
| 13:49.06 | asg | faked: does it mount manually after boot? |
| 13:49.22 | faked | pablob: mount -a works, also mount /mnt/extern |
| 13:49.32 | faked | asg: yes, manually it works |
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| 13:49.36 | aksn` | faked, it's user, not users :P |
| 13:49.46 | asg | faked: then it is likely that non-root partitions are being mounted before usb support has been configured. |
| 13:49.52 | peterS | hmmmmmm. so /usr/share/zoneinfo/iso3166.tab is yet another copy of /usr/share/iso-codes/iso_3166.tab and /usr/share/misc/countries.gz |
| 13:49.56 | peterS | neat |
| 13:50.06 | nothing_GSF | hey peterS |
| 13:50.08 | Juanjo-ar | I am still configurating my epson c63 at debian with cups, I have 2 USB ports, How can I know if mi printer is at USB #1 or #2? |
| 13:50.11 | peterS | nothing_GSF. |
| 13:50.28 | faked | asg: hmm.. so what can I do? |
| 13:50.32 | nothing_GSF | I installed gnome and window-system-core |
| 13:50.36 | penguin42 | Juanjo-ar: my experience is that if you only have one printer then it is #1 |
| 13:50.54 | nothing_GSF | how do I get a desktop now? :) |
| 13:51.07 | pablob | can anyone help mw with this line? http://people.debian.org/~fenio/warzone/ . . should work? There are just a bunch of packages together, not 2 level directories |
| 13:51.07 | dvs | nothing_GSF: startx |
| 13:51.10 | peterS | nothing_GSF: ah, also install 'gdm' if that did not get installed already |
| 13:51.22 | asg | faked: well, verfiy if my theory is correct. See where mount is called in /etc/rc* and also when the usb modules are called. If the former happens before the latter, you will need to arrange to call mount -a again afterwards. |
| 13:51.23 | nothing_GSF | gdm? kay |
| 13:51.33 | faked | aksn`: it doesn't make a difference If I write "users", "user", or none of this both |
| 13:51.34 | Juanjo-ar | penguin42: independient of wich usb-jack I have plugged my printer? |
| 13:51.35 | nothing_GSF | also, I think I accidentally skipped the mouse driver install |
| 13:51.37 | peterS | I thought it should have been installed as part of 'gnome' but maybe not |
| 13:51.49 | peterS | Juanjo-ar: yes, should be independent of that |
| 13:52.00 | nothing_GSF | what sort of problems is that going to create? |
| 13:52.07 | penguin42 | Juanjo-ar: I think so; I did my first usb printer ysterday, an epson c86 and it was asking me whether it was usb printer 1, or 2 - note that is pritner 1 or 2 , not usb port 1 or 2 |
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| 13:52.19 | faked | asg: hmm.. sounds logically, ok I'll check this out, thank you for your tipps |
| 13:52.27 | asg | faked: you're welcome |
| 13:52.28 | peterS | nothing_GSF: if you're lucky, none. if you aren't, it means you'll have to do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
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| 13:52.42 | Juanjo-ar | penguin42: cool, did you use cups? |
| 13:52.47 | penguin42 | Juanjo-ar: Nod |
| 13:52.50 | EfaistOs | how to convert a flac in mp3 ? |
| 13:53.06 | linoleum | Well, nothing is working : apt-build install lyx gives me an error (seg fault) , apt-get -b source lyx gives me an error too ... so , I'm under sid. is there a way to install lyx ??? I really need to use it, It's been almost 1 month I'm wainting to be able to install it. |
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| 13:53.12 | SerajewelKS | EfaistOs, use faad and lame |
| 13:53.14 | peterS | EfaistOs: producing an mp3 file requires software which is not in debian |
| 13:53.20 | peterS | EfaistOs: such as 'lame' |
| 13:53.23 | Juanjo-ar | penguin42: what did you use? |
| 13:53.27 | asg | linoleum: apt-get install lyx |
| 13:53.36 | SerajewelKS | EfaistOs, ask dpkg about marillat to get lame |
| 13:53.37 | linoleum | asg, no , dependencies problems |
| 13:53.41 | peterS | EfaistOs: I do not know if third-party packages of 'lame' include the ability to read flac files, or not |
| 13:53.42 | penguin42 | Juanjo-ar: Well it is being driven by the gimp-print stuff - seems to do pretty good |
| 13:53.44 | asg | linoleum: then don't use sid |
| 13:53.54 | SerajewelKS | peterS, i told him to use faad already |
| 13:54.00 | linoleum | asg, that's really help me |
| 13:54.01 | peterS | SerajewelKS: ok |
| 13:54.13 | Juanjo-ar | penguin42: could you guide me? |
| 13:54.20 | asg | linoleum: you've waited a month to use it. You could just have easily reinstalled with sarge or even etch and had it working by now. |
| 13:54.40 | linoleum | asg, yea I could install lyx under windows too :) |
| 13:54.41 | penguin42 | Juanjo-ar: I can try not sure I can remember it that well! |
| 13:54.48 | asg | linoleum: if you wish |
| 13:55.18 | asg | linoleum: or just learn LaTeX and use command line tools. |
| 13:55.54 | Juanjo-ar | ok, let's start! |
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| 13:56.23 | linoleum | and , is there a way, from sid, to install the stable or testing version of lyx ??? |
| 13:56.30 | asg | linoleum: in a chroot |
| 13:56.34 | linoleum | maybe dependances will be ok |
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| 13:57.32 | abrotman | pablob: i just downloaded the two packages .. but they don't rrun for me anyways |
| 13:57.35 | kuraiten | Hi |
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| 13:58.12 | kuraiten | im trying to install xchat, but I need to install gtk... but when I install ATK (required file) it says that GLIB is not installed, even though I installed it. |
| 13:58.29 | Ronin | kuraiten: apt-get install xchat isnt working for you? |
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| 14:03.44 | krassy1809 | where i can read my default kernel configuration ? |
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| 14:03.54 | asg | krassy1809: /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 14:03.56 | HaNazir | how to i switch contacts in centericq? like how do i choose another contact on the list to chat with? |
| 14:04.09 | flux | SerajewelKS: i found for my problem .... |
| 14:04.10 | kl1 | hi, any one knows how do i change the resolution? |
| 14:04.11 | ULI | i'm new in this forum |
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| 14:04.20 | flux | in /etc/kd3/kdm/Xservers |
| 14:04.27 | flux | he had : :0 local@tty1 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 150 -nolisten tcp |
| 14:04.27 | flux | :0 local@tty1 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 150 -nolisten tcp |
| 14:04.35 | flux | without " -dpi 150" ... |
| 14:04.36 | pablob | abrotman: but you installed them manually or with apt? |
| 14:04.43 | flux | now he has it, it works. |
| 14:04.57 | asg | kl1: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 14:05.05 | flux | thank you for help :) |
| 14:05.06 | abrotman | pablob: manually . it's only two packages :) |
| 14:05.32 | kl1 | ok |
| 14:05.34 | abrotman | pablob: i tried a number of combinations for the apt source line .. didn't get it |
| 14:05.59 | SerajewelKS | flux, that's what xfs was doing - sometimes X wouldn't connect to xfs or something, and it would screw up the dpi |
| 14:06.09 | SerajewelKS | flux, for me anyway |
| 14:06.11 | pablob | abrotman: but they should have lots of dependencies |
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| 14:06.18 | flux | SerajewelKS: ok |
| 14:06.19 | Eggplant | Morning all |
| 14:06.37 | abrotman | pablob: well ..i might already have the SDL requirements installed |
| 14:06.44 | Eggplant | What is the name of the package that contains patch? |
| 14:06.53 | asg | Eggplant: patch |
| 14:07.07 | Eggplant | asg, aptitude, searched for it, no dice |
| 14:07.14 | asg | Eggplant: apt-get install patch |
| 14:07.19 | Eggplant | k |
| 14:07.21 | asg | !info patch sarge |
| 14:07.29 | dpkg | patch: (Apply a diff file to an original), section utils, is standard. Version: 2.5.9-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 94 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 14:07.35 | kuraiten | how do you check what version you have of something? |
| 14:07.38 | abrotman | pablob: you dpkg -i .. if they don't work . then apt-get -f install |
| 14:07.44 | asg | kuraiten: dpkg -l <something> |
| 14:07.57 | fantomas | Hi. I want to install latest stable LICQ which is available only in debian "unstable" while I'm on sarge. backports.org also doon't contain licq 1.3.0. Is there a way to get it other then building from sources? |
| 14:08.20 | asg | fantomas: /msg dpkg simple sid backport (you'll have to build it but it might work) |
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| 14:08.21 | peterS | fantomas: dotdeb.org and apt-get.org are other third-party repositories. I have no idea if they are any good or up-to-date |
| 14:08.30 | Eggplant | asg, ty ty |
| 14:09.39 | asg | !ty is also the company that creates Beanie Babies(TM) |
| 14:09.39 | dpkg | asg: okay |
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| 14:10.09 | peterS | maybe .ty is in between taiwan and tanzania |
| 14:10.14 | abrotman | asg: that's just wrong |
| 14:10.33 | asg | abrotman: yes, I'm waiting for the german scat collection myself |
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| 14:10.54 | abrotman | asg: you're into scat ? |
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| 14:11.09 | Eggplant | X_X |
| 14:11.15 | Phated | Eurgh? |
| 14:11.16 | asg | abrotman: peripherally |
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| 14:11.20 | abrotman | asg: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scat |
| 14:11.24 | Phated | TMI... |
| 14:11.25 | abrotman | asg: first definitnion |
| 14:11.32 | Guerin | he likes to me surrounded by shit? |
| 14:11.42 | NyteRukh | back |
| 14:11.45 | Guerin | or is there another meaning of peripheral? |
| 14:11.46 | HaNazir | how do i get mplayer -vo aa to play in color? |
| 14:11.56 | abrotman | !qotd151 is <asg> abrotman: yes, I'm waiting for the german scat collection myself |
| 14:11.56 | dpkg | ...but qotd151 is already something else... |
| 14:12.02 | abrotman | !qotd153 is <asg> abrotman: yes, I'm waiting for the german scat collection myself |
| 14:12.03 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 14:12.05 | abrotman | yay |
| 14:12.06 | fantomas | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.08 | fantomas | ö) |
| 14:12.12 | asg | abrotman: def. 4 |
| 14:12.18 | abrotman | asg: i know .. |
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| 14:12.32 | abrotman | even though i thought that was skat .. but whatever |
| 14:12.34 | peterS | we can all pretend he really just wanted to hear jazz improv vocalisations |
| 14:12.53 | asg | abrotman: iirc, both are used. |
| 14:13.06 | abrotman | asg: for future reference .. use skat .. not scat :) |
| 14:13.07 | asg | scoobedy skoo cha! |
| 14:13.54 | asg | abrotman: in SOVIET RUSSIA, skat references you |
| 14:13.58 | abrotman | though .. urban dictionary says skat and scat are synonamous .. even for the shitty definition .. oh well |
| 14:14.01 | pablob | HaNazir: that may be related to libcaca |
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| 14:15.38 | asg | interesting that we come back to Debian with a mention of 'libcaca' |
| 14:15.44 | peterS | pablob: did you arrive at that conclusion by process of ... elimination? |
| 14:16.40 | peterS | or, put another way, what exactly did you pull that answer out of? |
| 14:17.16 | pablob | uh eh ... dont understand you guys? afaik libaa just plays in b&w ascii |
| 14:17.30 | peterS | sorry, s/pablob/asg/ there |
| 14:17.39 | peterS | well, directed to both |
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| 14:18.13 | peterS | I assumed the libcaca reference was on purpose |
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| 14:18.29 | asg | peterS: I think he referenced it in regards to getting aa to play in color |
| 14:18.45 | peterS | asg: I didn't even notice that until he played confused just now |
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| 14:19.01 | asg | peterS: :) I was being silly, he was being serious |
| 14:19.05 | pablob | ah! you meant the previous 'scat' thing ... I didnt noitce |
| 14:19.11 | pablob | :) |
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| 14:19.53 | Skywind | juix, 看å°çª— |
| 14:19.58 | ryanakca | how do you reset the password so that you can log into cyradm |
| 14:20.14 | asg | !china |
| 14:20.14 | dpkg | [china] a country, or what you eat from on holidays |
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| 14:20.18 | asg | bah |
| 14:20.35 | asg | !tell Skywind about cn |
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| 14:20.46 | dpy | hi |
| 14:20.50 | asg | !china is also ask me about <cn> |
| 14:20.50 | dpkg | asg: okay |
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| 14:20.59 | dpy | does anyone here know which version of dar is stable enough to use ? |
| 14:21.03 | dpy | or are they all unstable |
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| 14:21.21 | asg | !info dar stable |
| 14:21.26 | dpkg | dar: (Disk ARchive: Backup directory tree and files), section utils, is optional. Version: 2.2.1-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB |
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| 14:21.32 | ryanakca | is it saslpasswd2? |
| 14:21.38 | dpy | yes and then you install that and do this: |
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| 14:21.50 | dpy | dar -c - thy-0.9.4 | dar -l - |
| 14:21.50 | dpy | Reading config file: /root/.darrc |
| 14:21.50 | dpy | FATAL error, aborting operation |
| 14:21.50 | dpy | corrupted data read on pipe |
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| 14:21.53 | asg | hmmm, wasn't Dar also a character in Beastmaster |
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| 14:22.11 | ryanakca | !spank dpy |
| 14:22.13 | peterS | asg: sounds familiar |
| 14:22.19 | fbi | yes. dar was the big muscular man who could communicate with animals. |
| 14:22.19 | dpy | sorry |
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| 14:22.25 | fbi | dar == sexy |
| 14:22.33 | asg | ah yes, Mark Singer as Dar (1982) |
| 14:22.47 | dpy | but okay, so no version of dar can read from stdin ? |
| 14:22.57 | dpy | although it is advertised |
| 14:23.00 | asg | fbi: in 1982 perhaps, dunno about now. |
| 14:23.02 | zinosat | anybody knows how to fit "\<word\>" in a xml document? |
| 14:23.05 | ryanakca | *rethinks his question* |
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| 14:23.23 | peterS | come to think of it, I don't know that I ever lusted after Dar |
| 14:23.26 | fbi | oh yeah, i forgot they made a television series from that film |
| 14:23.31 | fbi | i've never seen it |
| 14:23.35 | asg | zinosat: use CDATA containers or use < and > |
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| 14:23.37 | dpy | *sigh* |
| 14:23.40 | dark-helmet | peterS: convo |
| 14:23.41 | ryanakca | do you use saslpasswd2 to reset your password so you can login to cyradm when you have root access or is it some other program? |
| 14:23.45 | dpy | you all still use tar ? |
| 14:23.48 | zinosat | asg, thanx |
| 14:23.50 | ryanakca | I do |
| 14:23.52 | asg | dpy: or pax |
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| 14:23.58 | dpy | what's pax ? |
| 14:24.00 | peterS | dark-helmet: you should stick to one nick, with small variations |
| 14:24.02 | asg | !pax |
| 14:24.02 | dpkg | [pax] http://pageexec.virtualave.net/ |
| 14:24.07 | asg | grrr |
| 14:24.11 | ryanakca | most linux source packages are tarballs |
| 14:24.27 | peterS | dark-helmet: you should read /var/log/XFree86.0.log to see what your X problems are. lines that do not start with (EE) you can *probably* ignore |
| 14:24.39 | asg | !pax is also Portable Archive Interchange (apt-get install pax) |
| 14:24.39 | dpkg | asg: okay |
| 14:24.45 | zinosat | asg, works fine |
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| 14:25.55 | ryanakca | any other channels that might know about cyradm? |
| 14:25.59 | Ale_Ryu | hey |
| 14:26.07 | Ale_Ryu | hi everyone |
| 14:26.15 | fbi | hi. |
| 14:26.15 | Ale_Ryu | I've got a question |
| 14:26.19 | fbi | so ask it. |
| 14:26.25 | peterS | I don't believe you |
| 14:26.38 | Ale_Ryu | how can I configure my mozilla to use free-java-sdk? |
| 14:26.43 | mixmatch | Is there a good program in the debian repositories that I can send all my web traffic through as a proxy and be able to read the packet info? |
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| 14:26.51 | fbi | you lost me after 'mozilla' |
| 14:26.55 | mixmatch | something geared more to http than ethereal |
| 14:26.56 | Yulia | hi all |
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| 14:27.14 | Ale_Ryu | hehe |
| 14:27.23 | Guerin | Ale_Ryu: ask #mozilla or the vendors of the particular free java implementation you want to use |
| 14:27.33 | Guerin | i'm pretty sude gcj don't work |
| 14:27.36 | Ale_Ryu | okay |
| 14:27.38 | fbi | mozilla/galeon are still crashing after the recent x-window updates and i can't figure out why |
| 14:27.43 | Ale_Ryu | thanks |
| 14:28.06 | Henry_Bean | hello, anybody could tellme how to build a deb package from a tarball? |
| 14:28.18 | Guerin | !nm guide |
| 14:28.18 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ There is also an additional guide that the Debian Women subproject has put together which may be useful: http://women.alioth.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 14:28.20 | peterS | Henry_Bean: step one, port it to debian.... |
| 14:28.26 | Eggplant | oh goody, makeinfo missing |
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| 14:28.43 | Guerin | Henry_Bean: that's the long guide - the quick and dirty version is sudo checkinstall; |
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| 14:29.14 | peterS | Eggplant: yeah, you kind of need the 'texinfo' package installed for that |
| 14:29.27 | Henry_Bean | ok, i'll read, thanks |
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| 14:29.44 | Eggplant | peterS, ah thanks |
| 14:30.04 | peterS | Eggplant: note that 'texi2html' claims to be nicer if you really wanted HTML output |
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| 14:30.38 | Eggplant | peterS, i dont need/want it all ;-) but the buildroot does |
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| 14:31.37 | Eggplant | weee down to just a dozen errors =-) |
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| 14:31.56 | gsnedders | hi |
| 14:32.25 | gsnedders | for sma |
| 14:32.32 | gsnedders | *for samba |
| 14:32.38 | debianuser | hello, how can i kill a zombie process |
| 14:32.41 | darkarchon | hey, does anyone has experience with xorg and "real" transparency for apps? is there another way than to use transset? |
| 14:32.42 | gsnedders | it just users the system users? |
| 14:32.46 | penguin42 | TToTD: When trying to find a fault on a newly upgraded system don't assume that it ever worked on the original system, and in particular try and remember the gratuitous hack you had to put in to make it work and what the upgrade will have removed it |
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| 14:33.54 | gsnedders | time to correct by far to fastly typing english: does samba just use the system users? |
| 14:34.05 | roods | anyone know how to save a .rm as a .mpeg? |
| 14:34.16 | asg | roods: mencoder can probably do it |
| 14:34.17 | GSF|nothing | Error loading keymap /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/server-0.xkm |
| 14:34.21 | GSF|nothing | what does that tell me? |
| 14:34.28 | Guerin | roods: sure, just rename it to .mpeg |
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| 14:36.06 | GSF|nothing | anyone? |
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| 14:36.29 | MegaManX | Hi there guys! I'm trying to install Debian on a Ultra Sparc 1 Creator, but I can't configure the Xserver right. Does anyone have experience with this architecture? |
| 14:36.40 | asg | MegaManX: #debian-sparc might |
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| 14:36.52 | MegaManX | thank you asg ;) |
| 14:37.16 | penguin42 | MegaManX: I've got an Ultra1 - but its a headless one |
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| 14:39.39 | penguin42 | MegaManX: You probably could do with knowing which type of video head you've got, normally Suns use 1152x900 res I think |
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| 14:40.18 | GSF|nothing | where do I find the X server config file? |
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| 14:40.26 | asg | GSF|nothing: /etc/X11 |
| 14:40.31 | GSF|nothing | thanks |
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| 14:40.52 | asg | GSF|nothing: better to let Debian do it though (/msg dpkg drxx) |
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| 14:42.07 | MegaManX | penguin42: thanks your your help. I'm trying to figure which card I've on google, but it's no easy task so far. running xf86config can be difficult to determine the amount of video RAM. running xf86cfg start the xserver, but it pratically freezes the machine aftewards. Caps key, for example, goes to key "T"... very werid stuff |
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| 14:42.29 | bmann | hi |
| 14:42.34 | MegaManX | hello |
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| 14:43.05 | asg | MegaManX: try 'lspci | grep VGA'. That should give you a chipset you can google for. |
| 14:43.15 | peterS | asg: only if he's got PCI, which he doesn't |
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| 14:43.29 | asg | peterS: ah, cripes. Forgot. |
| 14:43.29 | peterS | MegaManX: there's a device tree buried somewhere in /proc/openprom/ I think |
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| 14:43.56 | darkarchon | hm when i turn on composite in xorg, the whole transparency in fluxbox is gone :/ |
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| 14:44.15 | peterS | darkarchon: there is a *reason* the debian xorg package doesn't enable that stuff by default |
| 14:45.02 | MegaManX | thanks guys. I will take a look. lspci returns error: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci. Cannot find any working access method |
| 14:45.03 | darkarchon | hm, i mean when i use xcompmgr its transparent, partly. |
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| 14:45.13 | asg | MegaManX: yeah, that was my mistake. Disregard that. |
| 14:45.21 | darkarchon | the toolbar is transparent. but not the menu |
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| 14:45.37 | MegaManX | No no, thanks for trying asg ;) |
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| 14:46.25 | darkarchon | i like the transparent composite effect, its nice, but i dont want to make transset for every window :/ |
| 14:46.32 | darkarchon | id like to make it global or so. |
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| 14:47.14 | peterS | MegaManX: does 'prtconf' tell you anything about your devices? |
| 14:47.24 | peterS | MegaManX: I don't have access to a sparc so I can't check to see what it prints |
| 14:47.34 | peterS | MegaManX: I seem to remember it prints a sbus device tree, but I don't know for sure |
| 14:47.57 | penguin42 | MegaManX: Don't worry about the amount of RAM; also try an X -configure |
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| 14:48.21 | peterS | penguin42: I do believe he's still working on what graphics card he has |
| 14:48.25 | fbi | darkarchon: what do you mean 'global" and what value are you setting in transset |
| 14:48.41 | penguin42 | peterS: Yes but X -configure often finds it out for itself |
| 14:48.59 | peterS | penguin42: sometimes. I wouldn't count on it. |
| 14:49.19 | MegaManX | thanks guys. prtconfig returns a lot of interesting things. Looks like he correct driver is ffb.... very weird stuff... I'm not familiar with sparc :\ |
| 14:49.27 | penguin42 | peterS: Indeed, it often gets me out of a whole though |
| 14:49.38 | peterS | ffb? hmmm. |
| 14:49.44 | asg | framebuffer? |
| 14:49.56 | penguin42 | probably is framebuffer actually |
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| 14:50.35 | MegaManX | yeah, it was framebuffer :) |
| 14:50.43 | peterS | yes, it's a frame buffer driver, but for the kernel, not specifically for X |
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| 14:52.32 | Jamie_85 | I have installed unrar how do you extract rar files unrar -(letter) file.rar but what letter(s) is it? |
| 14:52.42 | tarzeau | Jamie_85: x |
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| 14:52.48 | peterS | is it x? I'm thinking e |
| 14:53.03 | tarzeau | peterS: x also works |
| 14:53.07 | tarzeau | Jamie_85: and drop the - |
| 14:53.08 | Jamie_85 | tarz - It just gives me commands |
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| 14:53.19 | tarzeau | Jamie_85: it doesn't want -x just x or e |
| 14:53.22 | MegaManX | It worked guys, thanks a bunch. I did a X -configure and a new file was created, I've moved that file to /etc/X11/ and it seems to be working ;) |
| 14:53.28 | tarzeau | Jamie_85: this is an anti-unix tool |
| 14:53.29 | peterS | MegaManX: good, good |
| 14:53.39 | Jamie_85 | Ah Thanks Tarzeau worked :) |
| 14:53.40 | tarzeau | Jamie_85: it adds inconsistency because it hates users |
| 14:54.05 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 14:54.05 | dpkg | hmm... qotd90 is <rituraj> which disks have probs? sata? <directhex|work> rituraj, whatever's in my laptop, and i've heard people with i915 desktops failing installation <jim> then buy a controller put it in the pci slot and be done with it <directhex|work> jim, what a fucking useless waste of time and money for all concerned <directhex|work> jim, and handily, there are hundreds of pci disk controllers for laptops, aren't there |
| 14:54.06 | peterS | why is .rar called .rar anyway? should be called .war, which would be short for .warez |
| 14:54.08 | MegaManX | I mean, the Xserver works great. I am not getting any response from the mouse or keyboard, so I guess I've to edit XF86Config :) |
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| 14:54.59 | penguin42 | MegaManX: Interesting - now, take your favorite config file from a different auto config tool and mix and match :-) |
| 14:55.23 | Guerin | peterS: someone told me it was roshal archive, after the bloke who made it up |
| 14:55.24 | darkarchon | fbi, i mean that every window has the same transparency |
| 14:55.39 | Guerin | but i don't know if that's true, or even if roshal actually made it up |
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| 14:55.42 | darkarchon | i dont want to use transparency for each window :/ |
| 14:55.50 | peterS | better yet, just look in XF86Config-4 at the Driver "" line and remember that when dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 asks |
| 14:55.51 | darkarchon | the're too many of them |
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| 14:56.30 | peterS | of course, having used X -configure, dpkg-reconfigure won't want to have anything to do with the file, you'll have to do the stupid md5sum trick |
| 14:56.31 | MegaManX | Great idea guys. Lemme see what happens ;) |
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| 14:57.07 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 14:57.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
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| 14:59.15 | fbi | darkarchon: i'm not following you. transset only affects windows you open after you start xcompmgr, it doesn't make every window on your desktop transparent when you start it |
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| 15:00.17 | darkarchon | yeah |
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| 15:00.28 | darkarchon | but that is what i want |
| 15:00.48 | darkarchon | brb, killing x server |
| 15:01.11 | tarzeau | darkhmet: wait |
| 15:01.26 | tarzeau | why do they close irc when they kill x servers? |
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| 15:01.45 | fbi | tarzeau: they've never heard of screen, or they use graphical irc clients |
| 15:01.46 | tarzeau | and why does xmms Segmentation fault |
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| 15:03.22 | resiak | fbi: s/clients/clients, and have not done apt-cache show xmove/ :) |
| 15:03.25 | ryanakca | how do you create an email account in courier? |
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| 15:04.13 | tarzeau | ryanakca: you want a gmail account? |
| 15:04.27 | fbi | whoa, i didn't even know that package existed |
| 15:04.32 | fbi | cheers resiak |
| 15:04.39 | resiak | fbi: Never used it, ymmv, etc |
| 15:04.54 | ryanakca | no thanks |
| 15:05.26 | ryanakca | I installed courier onto my system and would like to be able to create an email account for each of my users, how do I go by that |
| 15:05.39 | tarzeau | ryanakca: adduser ? |
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| 15:06.18 | ryanakca | I allready have the user created. when I try to log into the mail thingy, it tells me invalid user or password |
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| 15:06.49 | tarzeau | ryanakca: what's the username? password and mailserver name? |
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| 15:07.46 | NightLord | Why won't debian let me mount my music CDs? |
| 15:07.52 | Alzabar | well my luck with linux has reached a new low |
| 15:07.57 | tarzeau | NightLord: you can't mount audio cds |
| 15:08.07 | tarzeau | NightLord: better ask the other why they mount audio cds |
| 15:08.21 | tarzeau | Alzabar: which low? where? |
| 15:08.27 | NightLord | ok, well, if it won't mount, how do i listen to them? |
| 15:08.32 | Alzabar | I fianlly got debian working good |
| 15:08.35 | tarzeau | NightLord: apt-get install cdcd |
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| 15:08.44 | Alzabar | installed gnome and X |
| 15:08.49 | ryanakca | tarzeau: Are you sure, I can mound audio cds |
| 15:08.55 | Alzabar | when I reboot I couldnt type my password |
| 15:08.56 | peterS | NightLord: you use apps that play audio CDs. lots of these exist. cdcd, cdtool, xmms, etc. |
| 15:09.01 | tarzeau | ryanakca: please |
| 15:09.13 | NightLord | i tried using GNOME cd plyaer and it said drive error |
| 15:09.16 | ryanakca | what? |
| 15:09.17 | peterS | ryanakca: in IRIX you can. in Windows you can. if you get a special kernel patch, you can in Linux. |
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| 15:09.40 | ezerhoden | NightLord: maybe your symlink is bad |
| 15:09.41 | ryanakca | aaah, ok, sorry |
| 15:09.42 | peterS | ryanakca: but there's very little point. just use an audio CD player or ripper instead |
| 15:09.43 | tarzeau | !audio cd |
| 15:09.44 | dpkg | 0. run the cable from the CD-ROM to the sound card 1. 'chgrp cdrom /dev/hdc' or whatever your device is (only for IDE) 2. adduser username cdrom 3. don't forget to log out and relogin |
| 15:09.55 | Alzabar | it wouldnt let me typ my password even in console mode |
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| 15:10.10 | NightLord | o.o |
| 15:10.10 | NightLord | ok |
| 15:10.18 | resiak | Alzabar: Define "wouldn't let", and /msg dpkg enter. It's really hard to read what the hell you're saying. |
| 15:10.30 | tarzeau | ryanakca: see the /topic for 1.3 at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/AudioVideo |
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| 15:10.59 | ryanakca | ok |
| 15:11.03 | Alzabar | when it came to type my password it did nothing |
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| 15:11.48 | Alzabar | I typed it nothing showed up like my keyboard was disconnected |
| 15:11.54 | Ircownik | can anyone help me with my 'ethernet not work' problem pls? after upgrade packages in sarge my pcmcia eht not working. first was problem with acpi, i had to boot with acpi=force. now is problem with APIC witch cannot be enable. what i can handle that? |
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| 15:12.03 | ryanakca | now, back to my question, is the a program to create email accounts on courier. I tried login into my squirrelmail with my linux username and password, but I couldnt. And I checked the configurations, everything is ok. |
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| 15:12.19 | moret | hello!! |
| 15:12.24 | moret | I need help with NFS |
| 15:12.51 | moret | I need help with NFS |
| 15:13.03 | moret | I can't write with root in a shared directory |
| 15:13.27 | peterS | moret: it's called rootsquashing and you can disable it if you *really* need to |
| 15:13.32 | peterS | moret: 'man exports' for details |
| 15:13.41 | resiak | Alzabar: Erm, is this at a terminal? Nothing is _meant_ to show for each character. |
| 15:13.43 | tarzeau | no_root_squash, really |
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| 15:14.12 | Alzabar | well **** these should at least appear but they dont |
| 15:14.16 | moret | with no_root_squash in etc/exports will I write? |
| 15:14.25 | peterS | moret: why don't you RTFM and try it? |
| 15:14.33 | Phr0zenKore_ | can anybody point me too a good P2P client? |
| 15:14.33 | moret | RTFM? :S |
| 15:14.40 | peterS | Read The Fine Manual |
| 15:14.44 | moret | Phr0zenKore_: mldonkey |
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| 15:14.48 | moret | aaamm :P oks |
| 15:14.50 | Phr0zenKore_ | moreon: not in apt? |
| 15:14.51 | tarzeau | Phr0zenKore_: gtk-gnutella |
| 15:14.54 | Phr0zenKore_ | moert* |
| 15:14.58 | Phr0zenKore_ | moret* <-- damn |
| 15:15.01 | tarzeau | moret: man 5 exports |
| 15:15.03 | moret | I read it but I did not find the solution |
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| 15:15.12 | peterS | moret: I told you, 'man exports' |
| 15:15.29 | moret | yeah |
| 15:15.33 | moret | I find it now |
| 15:15.54 | Ircownik | anyone have problem with APIC and can help? |
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| 15:16.22 | Alzabar | is it a bug or something? |
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| 15:16.38 | moret | peterS: to take effect, do I need reboot NFS? |
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| 15:16.49 | peterS | moret: you have to export your filesystems again |
| 15:16.58 | moret | oks |
| 15:16.59 | resiak | Phr0zenKore_: Friends who have CDs. |
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| 15:17.11 | peterS | moret: 'exportfs' is the command, maybe 'exportfs -a' |
| 15:17.42 | Alzabar | well I give up god is telling me something |
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| 15:18.07 | moret | oh yeah! thaaanks!! :D |
| 15:18.27 | peterS | Alzabar: in unix, most password prompts do not let other people read your password on the screen |
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| 15:18.40 | peterS | Alzabar: and they don't even let other people know how long your password is, by printing "*" or anything |
| 15:18.43 | peterS | this is normal |
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| 15:19.28 | Alzabar | ohhh |
| 15:19.34 | Alzabar | I am an idiot |
| 15:20.05 | macks | how do you assign eth0/eth1 to specific network cards, say, if the automatic assignment is wrong? will an alias in /etc/modprobe.d do it? |
| 15:20.21 | peterS | macks: simplest way is to add your driver modules to /etc/modules in the order you want them |
| 15:20.25 | resiak | macks: apt-cache show ifrename |
| 15:20.36 | Alzabar | ok guy what do you recommend kde or gnome |
| 15:20.38 | peterS | macks: that forces the modules load early in the boot process, in the order you specify, so as to claim eth0 and eth1 in that order |
| 15:20.40 | resiak | !start a dm war |
| 15:20.41 | dpkg | xdm is the one true way! |
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| 15:20.47 | _Hug[o]_ | does this image containt the 2.6.8 image or the 2.4? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 15:20.57 | resiak | Alzabar: Some will recommend one, others will recommend the other, still others will say neither. TRY THEM! |
| 15:21.06 | abrotman | _Hug[o]_: both |
| 15:21.07 | macks | ok thanks both of you |
| 15:21.09 | resiak | _Hug[o]_: Both. Get rid of your leading _ please, it's really annoying. |
| 15:21.14 | peterS | macks: you can also use ifrename as resiak says, but just ordering the modules is usually easier |
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| 15:21.32 | resiak | peterS: But this way I have eth -> cow0 and wlan -> pigeon0 ! |
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| 15:21.40 | Alzabar | I have they are both the same |
| 15:21.44 | peterS | resiak: that sounds really useful |
| 15:21.51 | resiak | Alzabar: They really aren't... |
| 15:21.59 | resiak | peterS: Oh it is. |
| 15:22.15 | Alzabar | one reminds me of mac and one reminds me of windows |
| 15:22.34 | abrotman | Alzabar: there are more than two |
| 15:22.47 | resiak | Alzabar: Look, we don't care. Use whatever software you're most comfortable with. |
| 15:23.03 | peterS | oh, there's abrotman, maybe I should 'be bob2' after all |
| 15:23.06 | me_here | does one of you know how to make xmms connect to a remote host in order to get some streams played ? |
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| 15:23.34 | abrotman | peterS: SLEEP! |
| 15:23.36 | Alzabar | sorry |
| 15:23.42 | fbi | me_here: Play Location -> enter url:port |
| 15:23.45 | me_here | i get always "could not connect to remote host" messages |
| 15:24.31 | fbi | me_here: if you're attempting to connect to a stream that has 'listen.pls' or something else ridiculous, drop it and just enter url:port |
| 15:24.41 | me_here | fbi: yes, but what about this backslash thing, i have to add a \ everytime |
| 15:25.07 | bob2 | abrotman: go to bed, or such. |
| 15:25.40 | abrotman | bob2: not me .. peterS .. i just woke 4 hours ago :) |
| 15:26.12 | MegaManX | Oh my... I can't get the Sun keyboard to work :'( |
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| 15:26.45 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 15:26.46 | dpkg | i guess sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 15:26.57 | peterS | MegaManX: a type 5 vs type 6 thing? |
| 15:27.28 | dabreegster | Hey. I installed a new version of some package today (Think it was crawl) and it upgraded some packages like libstdc++6. Then when I tried to login to X using gdm, it said the session quit before 10 seconds and the log showed this: ls: relocation error: /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0: symbol errno, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference |
| 15:28.24 | dabreegster | I have done a bit of symlinking with .so's to get various games to work, but this has never happened and I haven't really done anything today besides upgrading libstc++6. I'm on testing with a 2.6.8-1-386 kernel. |
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| 15:28.49 | peterS | dabreegster: do not "do a bit of symlinking with .so's", that is never a good idea |
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| 15:29.03 | dabreegster | peterS: It's usually just minor stuff regarding sdl. |
| 15:29.20 | MegaManX | Good question. On the bottom of my keyboard, it stands "type6". However, google tells me that all type6 are actually USB's, but this one is not. I've changed the keyboard "Rules" on my XF86Config with both "xf86" and "sun". Sun worked better, the keycodes almays matched, except that Q=W. W=E, R=T, etc. |
| 15:29.36 | MegaManX | and on the top of it, Ive a swedish layout :) |
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| 15:30.00 | grendal_prime | oops |
| 15:30.02 | grendal_prime | heheeh |
| 15:30.10 | dabreegster | peterS: But anyway, everything has been working fine recently up until I upgraded crawl and: "The following extra packages will be installed: gcc-4.0-base libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libstdc++6 The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.0-base The following packages will be upgraded: crawl libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libstdc++6" |
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| 15:30.23 | peterS | MegaManX: fun, fun. there exists a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/sun/se, I notice |
| 15:30.33 | abrotman | peterS: i got you a warm blankie! |
| 15:31.01 | MegaManX | great!!! hold a sec! |
| 15:31.02 | peterS | w00t |
| 15:31.42 | peterS | MegaManX: Option "XkbRules" "sun" Option "XkbLayout" "se" I am guessing |
| 15:31.45 | bob2 | spot the former cambridge student! |
| 15:31.51 | peterS | bob2: haha |
| 15:32.01 | resiak | ? |
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| 15:32.06 | dabreegster | This is scaring me. I can't even do an ls without getting a "relocation error: /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0: symbol errno, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference" error. I'm not going to reboot. |
| 15:32.16 | peterS | resiak: cambridge assigns usernames as 'abcNN' with your initials and a 2-digit number |
| 15:32.21 | bob2 | dabreegster: are you using kernel 2.4.18 with sid? |
| 15:32.29 | resiak | peterS: Aaah. |
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| 15:32.34 | peterS | resiak: see if you can find a nick like that who has spoken here recently |
| 15:32.34 | dabreegster | bob2: No, 2.6.8-1-386 with testing |
| 15:32.42 | resiak | peterS: Yes, I have now seen it. |
| 15:33.04 | bob2 | dabreegster: hm, maybe disk corruption? can you try debsums? |
| 15:33.13 | dabreegster | bob2: Don't think it's disk corruptions. |
| 15:33.13 | peterS | resiak: in debian circles the best known example would be matthew garrett, whom everyone knows as mjg59 |
| 15:33.21 | resiak | I see. |
| 15:33.32 | dabreegster | This isn't good. I can't run any command except those that're already running. |
| 15:33.42 | jelly | dabreegster: do you have sash or any kind of useful statically linked binary installed? ;-) |
| 15:33.48 | mjk64 | dabreegster: You can still run "sln" :-} |
| 15:33.48 | dabreegster | jelly: Don't think so.. |
| 15:34.05 | resiak | dabreegster: Do you have an emacs running? It's an OS in itself :) |
| 15:34.06 | dabreegster | mkl1525: I don't have that command |
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| 15:34.15 | bob2 | dabreegster: is "dmesg" showing anything odd? |
| 15:34.21 | dabreegster | resiak: No. This isn't funny. I just have a few instances of bash, irssi, and elinks |
| 15:34.22 | jelly | dabreegster: Oh, so this is the first time something like this happened for you. ;-) |
| 15:34.24 | peterS | he probably can't run that either (: |
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| 15:34.29 | bob2 | hah |
| 15:34.29 | dabreegster | bob2: Nothing unusual |
| 15:34.34 | dabreegster | No, dmesg works. |
| 15:34.42 | dabreegster | Anything requiring pthreads, it seems, is failing. |
| 15:35.00 | resiak | dabreegster: I'm aware that it's not funny, and I was actually fairly serious. |
| 15:35.06 | jelly | dabreegster: do things work if you mv /lib/tls away? |
| 15:35.08 | bob2 | as a temporary workaround, you can try "sudo mv /lib/tls{,.broken} |
| 15:35.09 | dabreegster | resiak: OK, sorry. |
| 15:35.13 | dabreegster | jelly: Let me try a mv |
| 15:35.17 | bob2 | heh |
| 15:35.24 | jelly | bob2: indeed |
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| 15:35.32 | dabreegster | mv works. I tried on dummy files though, not anything in /lib/tls/ |
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| 15:36.20 | jelly | dabreegster: rename the directory and see if that makes other things work. |
| 15:36.21 | dabreegster | I'm sure it must have something to do with the packages that were upgraded this morning. |
| 15:36.22 | bob2 | dabreegster: no, moving that dir enables TLS |
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| 15:36.36 | dabreegster | bob2: rename tls temporarily? Alright.. |
| 15:36.48 | bob2 | er |
| 15:36.49 | bob2 | disables |
| 15:36.52 | dabreegster | yes. It works. |
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| 15:36.54 | dabreegster | ls works. |
| 15:36.57 | dabreegster | what is tls? |
| 15:37.02 | rking | tls = thread local storage? |
| 15:37.04 | jelly | NPTL enabled libc6 |
| 15:37.09 | peterS | yes, thread-local storage |
| 15:37.10 | jelly | rking: yes |
| 15:37.30 | dabreegster | Ok. Things are working. This is better, thanks. But how do I fix whatever problem is there? |
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| 15:38.13 | peterS | dabreegster: take it as a lesson not to track unstable in the future? |
| 15:38.24 | dabreegster | peterS: I'm running testing. |
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| 15:39.18 | baz | how long is considered polite to wait before chasing up a bug on the BTS? centericq has been broken for about a month now |
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| 15:39.29 | kuraiten | hi, how do you burn a ISO image on console? |
| 15:39.30 | Rawplayer | 3 years |
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| 15:39.34 | resiak | kuraiten: man cdrecord |
| 15:39.36 | baz | kuraiten: cdrecord |
| 15:39.46 | baz | Rawplayer: wouldn't surprise me :) |
| 15:39.46 | jelly | dabreegster: If you don't actually need nptl or something else in /lib/tls, you can remove libc6-i686 package (assuming you're running on i386) |
| 15:40.13 | dabreegster | jelly: I dunno if I'm using it or not. Could I just reinstall that package? |
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| 15:40.34 | bob2 | jelly: you're using a pentium pro+ cpu, right? |
| 15:40.41 | bob2 | (ie i386, and not a c3) |
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| 15:41.07 | jelly | bob2: did you mean to ask dabreegster? |
| 15:41.13 | NightLord | damn, still can't get audio cds to work ~_~ |
| 15:41.19 | dabreegster | I think I found the problem. libc.so.6 in /usr/lib points to ./libc.so.5. |
| 15:41.50 | dabreegster | bob2: I'm running an AMD-K6 processor. |
| 15:42.01 | bob2 | oops |
| 15:42.06 | bob2 | jelly: yes, sorry |
| 15:42.08 | jelly | dabreegster: ugh. that so shouldn't be there. |
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| 15:42.21 | jelly | dabreegster: libc.so.6 should be in /lib |
| 15:42.22 | dabreegster | jelly: I removed the symlink, but the problem persists when I move tls back. |
| 15:42.25 | dabreegster | jelly: OK |
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| 15:42.33 | fbi | NightLord: 1) open cdrom tray 2) insert cd 3) close cdrom tray 4) play cd in your preferred player |
| 15:42.34 | bob2 | you shouldn't be using TLS on a k6 anyway, afaik |
| 15:42.37 | bob2 | which is odd |
| 15:42.38 | fbi | it's really not rocket science |
| 15:42.39 | mjk64 | NightLord: Haven't followed the discussion - have you tried cdda2wav? |
| 15:42.45 | jelly | debhelper: I'd run "debsums libc6" for starters |
| 15:42.59 | dabreegster | libc.so.6 in /lib points to libc-2.3.2.so, which seems slightly odd to me. |
| 15:43.05 | dabreegster | jelly: OK. |
| 15:43.16 | kuraiten | it said no possible targets when I tried to buirn the CD |
| 15:43.17 | peterS | dabreegster: libc-2.3.2.so is correct. libc.so.5 is *incorrect*. |
| 15:43.21 | NightLord | also, fbi: duh, but that doesn't work ~_~ |
| 15:43.22 | dabreegster | peterS: OK |
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| 15:43.54 | kuraiten | I tried cdrecord -scanbus but it didnt find anything |
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| 15:44.14 | pabs3 | hi all, I was hit by this, anyone know a workaround? http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/5/22/103 |
| 15:44.15 | dabreegster | /usr/lib/libc.so.5 -> /lib/libc.so.6 |
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| 15:44.28 | dabreegster | There's also a libc.so in /usr/lib that isn't a symlink at all. |
| 15:44.31 | peterS | dabreegster: now that will not work at all. if you need libc5, install it. |
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| 15:44.37 | bob2 | kuraiten: there's no need for that anymore |
| 15:44.45 | lifeengineer | hi |
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| 15:44.49 | jelly | dabreegster: those things you have in /usr/lib are bad, mkay |
| 15:45.13 | dabreegster | jelly: Alright. I'll move em temporarily. |
| 15:45.21 | lifeengineer | wich reasons to use Debian? |
| 15:45.22 | jelly | dabreegster: you might want to do something like dpkg -S /usr/lib/* and find out what else is extraneous there. |
| 15:45.32 | baz | guess I should write a followup to this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=325456 |
| 15:45.34 | resiak | !tell lifeengineer -about why debian |
| 15:45.38 | baz | can't you do that on the site anymore? |
| 15:46.07 | resiak | baz: You never could AFAIK |
| 15:46.20 | dabreegster | Crap. I just renamed libc.so.6 in /lib on accident and now mv is failing. |
| 15:46.20 | NightLord | i got a really long error message, which site can i use to paste it in? |
| 15:46.22 | baz | resiak: must be thinking of something else |
| 15:46.44 | dabreegster | What possessed me to do that? |
| 15:46.46 | jelly | dabreegster: shouldn't have done that. It's not good. ;-) |
| 15:46.55 | SJr|Tecra | How do I alter the default keymap on a system |
| 15:47.00 | resiak | !keymap |
| 15:47.00 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev |
| 15:47.06 | dabreegster | jelly: For some reason, I thought I was in /usr/lib, even though /lib was staring me right in the face.. |
| 15:47.07 | NightLord | what GUI you in SJr? |
| 15:47.11 | SJr|Tecra | no |
| 15:47.13 | SJr|Tecra | console |
| 15:47.13 | SJr|Tecra | thanks |
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| 15:47.33 | lifeengineer | hey please tell me? |
| 15:47.37 | dabreegster | Is there some other mv replacement that doesn't require libc.so.6 to be in the place it should be? :) |
| 15:47.42 | resiak | !tell lifeengineer -about why debian |
| 15:47.55 | resiak | lifeengineer: Read what the bot just told you? |
| 15:48.00 | dabreegster | It's a good thing I already had elinks, wvdial, and irssi running. |
| 15:48.08 | lifeengineer | resiak: thank you for assistance ;) |
| 15:48.15 | jelly | dabreegster: pretty much everything depends on libc6 being in its rightful place. |
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| 15:48.26 | dabreegster | jelly: And I just moved it. Crap. |
| 15:49.10 | xtof | hi! unstable here, gnome 2.10.2. Do you know how I can use metacity as wm for gnome? |
| 15:49.12 | jelly | dabreegster: does bash have internal "more" or "cat" command? |
| 15:49.14 | dabreegster | I don't have a Knoppix CD with me, but I could probably get one. I realize rebooting or closing any helpful programs I already have running is stupid. But I'll have to soon. |
| 15:49.30 | dabreegster | jelly: Nope. |
| 15:49.40 | lifeengineer | some poeple advise me to use Fedora, others say Gentoo .. |
| 15:49.44 | NightLord | ok, i'm in the uk, but my keyboard is set to US, when i try to change it (or any other keyboard settings) I get this error: |
| 15:49.45 | NightLord | http://pastebin.com/373763 |
| 15:49.56 | dabreegster | resiak: it's possible... |
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| 15:50.02 | coldtea | someone=you |
| 15:50.08 | dabreegster | I dunno how to write an irssi plugin, but it shouldn't be tough. |
| 15:50.12 | dabreegster | I know a bit of perl. |
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| 15:50.26 | resiak | dabreegster: You'd have to use echo > foo to write it all, since you haven't got an editor :) |
| 15:50.43 | dabreegster | resiak: Rewrite libc.so.6? Ah, no problem... |
| 15:51.02 | resiak | dabreegster: No, to write the plugin that calls rename. |
| 15:51.03 | dabreegster | The irssi-perl idea won't work. I'd have to be root. |
| 15:51.07 | resiak | Ah, point :) |
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| 15:51.20 | dabreegster | Why doesn't bash have a builtin cat command? |
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| 15:51.40 | Ircownik | how to remove APIC and back to APM? |
| 15:51.40 | dabreegster | Wait, it might. But it requires libc.so.6. |
| 15:51.49 | caphuso | dabreegster: while read a; do echo "$a"; done < /some/file |
| 15:52.00 | dabreegster | caphuso: I'll try it, thanks. |
| 15:52.22 | peterS | or even: cat () { local a; while read a; do echo "$a"; done; } |
| 15:52.27 | dabreegster | -su: libc.so.6: No such file or directory |
| 15:52.34 | dabreegster | while read libc.so.6.goaway; do echo "$a"; done < libc.so.6 |
| 15:52.39 | dabreegster | Wait. That's backwards. |
| 15:52.52 | caphuso | you wanted a cat command... |
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| 15:52.58 | dabreegster | while read libc.so.6; do echo "$a"; done < libc.so.6.goaway # not a valid identifier |
| 15:53.20 | caphuso | don't use dots |
| 15:53.22 | peterS | dabreegster: you need to learn some shell. you want read a, not read libc.so.6 |
| 15:53.26 | dabreegster | I think it's working. |
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| 15:53.39 | dabreegster | peterS: I know. I'm used to perl. |
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| 15:53.54 | dabreegster | I'm using that replacement cat, but I don't think it's working. |
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| 15:53.59 | jelly | while read; do echo ... done < libc.so.6.goaway > libc.so.6 |
| 15:54.01 | dabreegster | It's just sitting there. |
| 15:54.04 | alzabar | at least things are working now |
| 15:54.31 | dabreegster | They aren't. Only builtin commands that don't need libc.so.6 |
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| 15:55.03 | MegaManX | How can I stop the xdm to load? Because my keymaps are all wrong and if xdm starts, I can't kill X :S |
| 15:55.11 | resiak | !tell MegaManX -about nodm |
| 15:55.31 | dabreegster | The replacement cat isn't reading in the first place. Is my only option a Knoppix CD I don't have? |
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| 15:55.52 | dabreegster | Actually, now that I think about it, there's a smaller emergency system thing using floppies. |
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| 15:56.06 | goccia | tomstrtb |
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| 15:56.12 | jelly | dabreegster: bah, it won't work here, probably because of nulls. |
| 15:56.15 | peterS | you mean tomsrtbt |
| 15:56.16 | kuraiten | how do you search for programs to terminate? |
| 15:56.21 | Elly | shudder |
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| 15:56.26 | dabreegster | peterS: that's it. |
| 15:56.27 | Elly | what IDE should I use to code C# on Linux? |
| 15:56.30 | kuraiten | Because I cant eject my CD or anything |
| 15:56.32 | goccia | ops : sorry |
| 15:56.33 | resiak | Elly: vim |
| 15:56.45 | dimir | :-) |
| 15:56.47 | Elly | there isn't an IDE? |
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| 15:56.50 | MegaManX | thanks resiak |
| 15:56.52 | caphuso | for C#? /bin/ed |
| 15:56.53 | peterS | Elly: dunno, try them all. I use xemacs for everything, but that's not an IDE |
| 15:56.54 | dabreegster | If it can mount an ext3 fs and let me rename a file, I'll be fine. |
| 15:57.11 | peterS | Elly: at a guess, eclipse can probably do the job ok |
| 15:57.13 | metaperl | famd - The File Alteration Monitor (FAM) daemon is taking up 80-99% of my CPU... how can I find what package installed this? |
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| 15:57.20 | caphuso | metaperl: fam |
| 15:57.21 | dimir | Elly: monodevelop |
| 15:57.23 | peterS | metaperl: dpkg -S famd |
| 15:57.32 | dimir | Elly: and you will need mono |
| 15:57.41 | Elly | I have mono |
| 15:57.44 | metaperl | ecb.sf.net Elly |
| 15:57.52 | dimir | Elly: try monodevelop then |
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| 15:58.08 | shay|wifi | hi |
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| 15:58.47 | dabreegster | Whoa. elinks seems to be downloading data to disk correctly. |
| 15:58.52 | jelly | dabreegster: so you have irc client running on this machine? |
| 15:59.09 | dabreegster | jelly: Yes. Several instances of bash, plus irssi and elinks |
| 15:59.23 | jelly | dabreegster: you could download sash |
| 15:59.25 | MegaManX | The problem is... I did a X -configure and moved the new generated file to my /etc/X11/. Now, when I boot Debian, xdm loads and if X is started, my keys goes all mad and I can't do anything. I need to fix the X-Server, but if it loads, I can't do anything, not even kill it because my keymad is all weird. Is there anything I can do during boot to stop that? |
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| 15:59.29 | Elly | no package named monodevelop |
| 15:59.29 | dabreegster | If only elinks was running as root! |
| 15:59.31 | Elly | and no eclipse? |
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| 15:59.44 | aedwards | folks, which log file will contain info on a system crash..I already checked syslog and nothing shows up but the kernel starting up? |
| 15:59.44 | jelly | dabreegster: not sure about executable permissions though. |
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| 15:59.50 | dabreegster | jelly: But I don't think I'd be able to start it |
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| 16:00.06 | caphuso | MegaManX: boot into single user mode, remove the xdm link in /etc/rc2.d/ and reboot regularily |
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| 16:00.22 | lord_rob | Elly: eclipse is coming very soon, there are experimental packages available somewhere (but don't remember where) |
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| 16:00.25 | dabreegster | Maybe I can just grab tomsrtbt on another machine and try to get libc back in place from there. |
| 16:00.27 | Elly | oh :( |
| 16:00.37 | dimir | Elly: monodevelop is in unstable |
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| 16:00.46 | jelly | dabreegster: its a statically linked shell with lots of builtin commands, just what you need when you break libc6.so ;-) |
| 16:00.47 | Elly | oh, rats |
| 16:00.48 | dabreegster | But I really don't want to disconnect this machine from the net (I'm on dialup) because I don't think I'd be able to run wvdial any time soon. |
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| 16:00.58 | dabreegster | jelly: And I conveniently don't have it. |
| 16:01.06 | MegaManX | thanks caphuso, I will try that ;) |
| 16:01.15 | jelly | dabreegster: didn't you say you're able to download stuff |
| 16:01.17 | dabreegster | And I don't think I could get tar and gzip to work. |
| 16:01.26 | dabreegster | jelly: elinks is downloading to disk. But that's all. |
| 16:01.43 | Elly | how soon will eclipse be ready? |
| 16:01.46 | lord_rob | Elly: http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2005/08/msg00077.html |
| 16:01.47 | dabreegster | I can't even do an ls on it, I'm relying on tab-completion. |
| 16:01.49 | jelly | dabreegster: who needs tar and gzip, download the binary. ;-) |
| 16:02.00 | dabreegster | jelly: But could I even execute it? |
| 16:02.01 | lord_rob | Elly: very soon |
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| 16:02.17 | jelly | dabreegster: yes if it's statically linked. |
| 16:02.20 | dabreegster | I'm pretty sure even sash would need libc to start up |
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| 16:02.24 | dabreegster | jelly: It won't need libc? |
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| 16:02.47 | NightLord | http://pastebin.com/373763 i get this error when i try to change keyboard settings, why? |
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| 16:02.57 | jelly | dabreegster: it's linked in, it does not need the dinamically loaded libc. |
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| 16:03.07 | dabreegster | jelly: Awesome. Now I just have to find a binary. |
| 16:03.48 | jelly | dabreegster: I only worry that if you download it it won't be executable. |
| 16:03.59 | dabreegster | jelly: Oh crap. True. |
| 16:04.14 | dabreegster | From within sash, can I even su? |
| 16:04.17 | peterS | that's no obstacle |
| 16:04.27 | peterS | you just run '/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /your/executable' |
| 16:04.37 | dabreegster | chmod isn't running. |
| 16:04.40 | peterS | no need for /your/executable to have the x bit set |
| 16:04.47 | dabreegster | Oh, cool. |
| 16:04.48 | peterS | so long as /lib/ld-linux.so.2 does |
| 16:05.01 | dabreegster | OK, now I just have to find a sash binary. |
| 16:05.17 | crashbg | do anyone know there i can get a list of the blizzard game server's ips? |
| 16:05.26 | peterS | dabreegster: I can dcc you one if you wish |
| 16:05.34 | dabreegster | peterS: Yes, that'd be great, thanks |
| 16:05.47 | peterS | of course that means running a binary downloaded from a random ircer |
| 16:05.52 | dabreegster | That's fine. |
| 16:05.53 | peterS | as root, even |
| 16:05.59 | dabreegster | I'm willing to take the risk at this point. |
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| 16:06.18 | dabreegster | peterS: Thanks. I'm going on gut here, trusting you. |
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| 16:06.26 | dabreegster | I realize I should not do this under most circumstances. |
| 16:06.30 | peterS | heh |
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| 16:07.03 | jelly | peterS: hey, I have a nicer rootkit here: http://gnjilux.srk.fer.hr/~jelly/sash |
| 16:07.06 | mjk64 | dabreegster: That's the perfect situation for peterS to exploit you. :-) |
| 16:07.08 | dabreegster | It is such a good thing I already have elinks and irssi running. |
| 16:07.12 | linoleum | hello, how can I remove KDE desktop ??? if I do aptitude purge kde, that's not working |
| 16:07.27 | peterS | mjk64: yes, if I were paying attention 1 hour ago and realised that he would be needing a sash binary soon, so I could prepare such a thing |
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| 16:07.48 | dabreegster | mjk64: I know that. But I don't have much choice. Getting knoppix or tomrtbt on another machine is tedious. |
| 16:07.53 | mjk64 | peterS: :-) |
| 16:07.58 | caphuso | linoleum: remove the kdelibs* package(s) |
| 16:07.59 | jelly | dabreegster: hey, I have a nice exploit... umm... sash binary here: http://gnjilux.srk.fer.hr/~jelly/sash |
| 16:08.00 | dabreegster | Segfault. Crap. |
| 16:08.01 | peterS | dabreegster: hmmm, since sash is statically linked, I'm not sure if /lib/ld-linux.so.2 will run it |
| 16:08.10 | peterS | ...seems not |
| 16:08.11 | dabreegster | peterS: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ~dabreegster/sash segfaulted. |
| 16:08.31 | mjk64 | dabreegster: peterS has been too helpful already today, so that he cannot possible be a criminal. :-) |
| 16:08.39 | dabreegster | mjk64: True. |
| 16:08.50 | drac | jelly: huh? spreading unknown binaries here without source code to it.. ? |
| 16:09.00 | drac | reason to get banned *imho* |
| 16:09.03 | dabreegster | drac: If only I could compile at the moment. |
| 16:09.19 | jelly | drac: if he got md5sum or debsums, he could check it. |
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| 16:09.52 | jelly | so now there the slight executable permission problem, |
| 16:09.54 | dabreegster | tomrtbt will be able to mount a ext3 fs and let me move files that're owned by root, right? |
| 16:09.55 | peterS | dabreegster: I suppose I should give you some speech about the GPL and how you can request source code for this binary I sent you, if you want it, and my offer is good for up to 3 years |
| 16:10.15 | dabreegster | peterS: I like source code when I'm able to compile it, usually. |
| 16:10.16 | caphuso | peterS: i want the source code |
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| 16:10.28 | peterS | caphuso: I didn't send you the explo^Wbinary (: |
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| 16:10.55 | caphuso | peterS: but i've seen the written offer :-P |
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| 16:11.04 | jelly | peterS: you can sell'im the binary w/ the source if he wants it so badly. ;-) |
| 16:11.11 | dabreegster | So, besides /lib/ld-linux.so.2, is there another way to execute a file without executable permissions? |
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| 16:11.31 | Elly | make it executable, execute it, make it non-executable |
| 16:11.39 | _Hug[o]_ | is there a log for kdm |
| 16:11.44 | Elly | klogd? |
| 16:11.47 | dabreegster | Elly: If only chmod worked. |
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| 16:12.00 | dabreegster | Elly: You have that roguelike source still, right? Somebody should have a backup. |
| 16:12.08 | Elly | dabreegster, uhh, I might |
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| 16:12.17 | peterS | dabreegster: save to floppy disk, I think vfat mounts give you +x permission everywhere |
| 16:12.23 | Elly | yas |
| 16:12.25 | dabreegster | peterS: OK |
| 16:12.27 | me_here | how do i add sourceforge into sources.list ? as deb-src ? |
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| 16:12.30 | Elly | http://rukh.ca/Elly/rl.tgz |
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| 16:12.36 | dabreegster | peterS: Um, I can't quite mount. |
| 16:12.39 | peterS | dabreegster: that does leave the question of how you'll run 'mount', yeah |
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| 16:12.52 | jelly | peterS: is it possible to define a library path with arguments to /lib/ld.so? |
| 16:12.59 | caphuso | dabreegster: overwrite a file with executable permissions |
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| 16:13.05 | Elly | dabreegster: there's your source |
| 16:13.12 | dabreegster | Elly: Thanks. |
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| 16:13.19 | dabreegster | caphuso: That'd work.. |
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| 16:13.32 | peterS | jelly: the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH is the easiest |
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| 16:13.53 | jelly | something like /lib/ld-2.3.5.so --library-path /usr/lib/libc.so.6.moved mv this that |
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| 16:13.56 | dabreegster | I don't think cat is working though. |
| 16:13.58 | peterS | jelly: so like: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/tmp /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /tmp/foo |
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| 16:14.53 | jelly | Hrm. actually LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libc.so.6.moved /bin/ls |
| 16:15.09 | dabreegster | tomrtbt is my only hope now. |
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| 16:15.44 | jelly | dabreegster: yeah, you could have probably fixed it by now. ;-) |
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| 16:15.55 | dabreegster | jelly: True. |
| 16:15.55 | Juz_visiting | if a dvd drive reads cd's but not dvd's (and both media are readable on another machines) what do I need to change so the dvd's will read |
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| 16:16.15 | peterS | Juz_visiting: possibly your drive hardware itself has gone bad |
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| 16:16.28 | dabreegster | Before I disconnect, is that all I should have to do? Boot with tomrtbt and rename my libc? Then I can carefully fix the old tls problem. |
| 16:16.32 | peterS | CDs are ever so much easier to read than DVDs, after all |
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| 16:17.27 | Juz_visiting | is there any mount -t ????? that may be different or are dvd's also iso9660's |
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| 16:18.33 | dabreegster | I'll assume so. Bye. Thanks for all the help. I hope to be back soon.. |
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| 16:18.52 | kania | hi |
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| 16:20.37 | _Hug[o]_ | when my computer shows my kdm, it doesn't show a background though my settings are well-adjusted, here is my kdm.log, can anyone help me with me? http://pastebin.com/373784 |
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| 16:21.20 | jelly | ho hum |
| 16:21.35 | jelly | "LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libc.so.6.moved mv" works here |
| 16:21.39 | kuraiten | how come when I try to CDrecord |
| 16:21.52 | jelly | dabreegster: you still here? |
| 16:21.53 | kuraiten | I get these errors - http://rafb.net/paste/results/oBL8cZ96.html and http://rafb.net/paste/results/oBL8cZ96.html |
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| 16:22.37 | peterS | jelly: I reckon right about now he's puzzled about how to write a tomsrtbt disk image significantly greater than 1440k, without a working 'cp' or 'cat' or 'dd' command |
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| 16:23.11 | jelly | peterS: I think he's got another machine for that. |
| 16:23.35 | peterS | jelly: hope it's linuxesque. dealing with large floppy formats on windows is not a whole lot of fun |
| 16:23.45 | jelly | setting env. variable works though. |
| 16:23.56 | peterS | *nod* |
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| 16:25.09 | jelly | I remember using things called "fdformat" or "800k" or "2M" on DOS, but Windows didn't like those strangely formatted floppies |
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| 16:25.32 | peterS | 2M is evil |
| 16:25.41 | peterS | it gets some extra capacity but only by selling its soul |
| 16:26.02 | jelly | what, mixing sector sizes is a nice hack. ;-) |
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| 16:26.16 | peterS | mixing sector sizes is of the devl |
| 16:26.17 | peterS | devil |
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| 16:26.26 | jelly | and who needs that extra FAT copy. |
| 16:26.47 | pinucset | somebody knows the webs wich says the number of developers in the projects? (kde, gnome, gimp...) |
| 16:26.58 | peterS | six. |
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| 16:28.01 | peterS | spencer and matthias on the gimp, havoc and jdub on gnome, carsten on KDE, and rasterman as sort of a free agent. |
| 16:28.53 | peterS | I misspelled at least two of those names, oh well |
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| 16:32.31 | abrotman | peterS: hello .. sleep? |
| 16:33.09 | peterS | $tell abrotman about /whois peterS | grep -i away |
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| 16:33.15 | abrotman | hehe |
| 16:33.56 | mjk64 | peterS: Are you sitting, err lying at your bed terminal or what? :-) |
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| 16:35.32 | dspstv | i use gimp for capturing screenshots, is there any other application for screen capturing? |
| 16:35.41 | mjk64 | dspstv: xv |
| 16:35.42 | djp | a strange question porbably, but i was just wondering why a debian default desktop install does not include unzip? are there license issues? |
| 16:35.47 | pinucset | are you using kde dspstv? |
| 16:35.52 | dspstv | no |
| 16:35.57 | dspstv | enlightenment |
| 16:36.03 | dspstv | is what i have |
| 16:36.10 | pinucset | i dont know, sorry |
| 16:36.13 | dspstv | k |
| 16:36.14 | stew | dspstv: import from imagemagick |
| 16:36.19 | mjk64 | dspstv: ? That doesn't matter, the program "xv" will happily make screenshots of the root window. |
| 16:36.26 | Whitman | scrot works |
| 16:36.26 | dspstv | ok |
| 16:36.37 | dspstv | merci |
| 16:36.37 | peterS | mjk64: I declared myself to be /away but my terminal still beeps when someone yells at me |
| 16:36.42 | stew | mjk64: xv is non-free and not in debian though iirc |
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| 16:37.09 | mjk64 | stew: oh, damn ... sorry, didn't think of licensing issues (I'm new to Debian :-) |
| 16:37.31 | mjk64 | peterS: Which is quite often as helpful as you are, so that you'll never get to sleep ;-) |
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| 16:37.49 | HaNazir | is there a gtk-gnutella console equivalent? |
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| 16:37.57 | peterS | mjk64: ha, thanks. but once I actually lie down, I'm almost always able to ignore such things |
| 16:38.06 | resiak | peterS: /whois peterS | grep -i away --> There is no such nick | |
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| 16:38.30 | mjk64 | peterS: I'll give you a few ^Gs from time to time ;-) |
| 16:38.35 | peterS | resiak: you have a very un-bourne-like irc client then |
| 16:38.55 | resiak | peterS: Apparently so. |
| 16:39.02 | abrotman | HaNazir: apt-cache search gnutella |
| 16:39.05 | peterS | which is not to say I know of any bourne-like ones |
| 16:39.20 | peterS | guess they just aren't bourne yet |
| 16:39.22 | mjk64 | dspstv: How about "xwd"? |
| 16:39.23 | HaNazir | abrotman: thanx |
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| 16:40.34 | mjk64 | dspstv: "xwd" is part of package "xbase-clients" |
| 16:40.44 | peterS | no, resiak, you don't get to know what I run. never mind that irssi plugin I'm believed to have written at one point |
| 16:41.09 | resiak | peterS: I was mildly intrigued to see if you were using some horrific zsh-irc device :) |
| 16:41.13 | HaNazir | abrotman: mutella? |
| 16:41.22 | HaNazir | abrotman: or u recommend something better? |
| 16:41.30 | abrotman | i used to use another .. but it's not in sarge |
| 16:41.32 | peterS | resiak: the example syntax I told abrotman to use will not work in any known client |
| 16:41.38 | abrotman | it was uhm .. |
| 16:41.42 | abrotman | grut? |
| 16:41.45 | abrotman | no ... |
| 16:41.53 | abrotman | gnut ? |
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| 16:42.14 | resiak | peterS: Right. I was wondering if you knew something I didn't. |
| 16:42.15 | abrotman | !info gnut oldstable |
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| 16:42.24 | cmdKeen | I've finally installed x.org and i've heard radeon cards are supported... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg found my card, correctly name it, but when I restart X it dont work :-/ Any useful links ? I haven't googled anything useful... |
| 16:42.30 | dpkg | gnut: (A command-line based client compatible with Gnutella-net), section net, is optional. Version: 0.4.28-1 (woody), Packaged size: 141 kB, Installed size: 397 kB |
| 16:42.30 | peterS | similar effects may be possible to achieve using the emacs irc clients, of course (erc, zenirc). those are inherently scary |
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| 16:42.55 | resiak | peterS: Isn't emacs itself inherently scary? |
| 16:43.03 | peterS | yes |
| 16:43.06 | abrotman | !bloat |
| 16:43.07 | dpkg | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see <emacs> or <emacs disease> |
| 16:43.08 | peterS | but in a good way |
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| 16:44.08 | HaNazir | how on earth do i use mutella? |
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| 16:44.21 | resiak | Read its fine manual? |
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| 16:47.29 | drp | what's the command to get a list of all packages currently installed |
| 16:47.30 | HaNazir | anyone here use mutella? |
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| 16:48.06 | stew | drp: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
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| 16:48.21 | drp | stew: thanks |
| 16:48.24 | djp | anyone have any idea why unzip is not included in a default desktop install of debian? i just wondered if it was to do with licensing... |
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| 16:48.37 | caphuso | djp: because it's hardly useful? |
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| 16:49.41 | gass | hello ... |
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| 16:50.21 | djp | true caphuso :), although it is the only program that can handle zip files though isn't it? |
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| 16:50.27 | caphuso | djp: so? |
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| 16:52.52 | djp | caphuso, gunzip and gzip are included by default i gather. i suppose .zip files are considered more windows based. would that be a fair comment? |
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| 16:53.08 | caphuso | djp: well, gzip is being used to compress .deb packages |
| 16:53.18 | caphuso | so, not having it would be quite fatal |
| 16:53.26 | djp | caphuso, ah, i see. |
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| 16:53.31 | caphuso | unzip isn't used at all, except by maybe a handful of packages |
| 16:53.43 | caphuso | so, installing it by default would be a waste |
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| 16:54.08 | djp | caphuso, i see. fair enough. thanks for the answer by the way. |
| 16:54.11 | darkness2 | Anyone know how to install ymessenger? |
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| 16:55.45 | resiak | darkness2: You install a client that does Y!, such as Gaim or Kopete. |
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| 16:59.15 | SupIAmMike | !ipw2200 |
| 16:59.15 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-source-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200 |
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| 16:59.45 | tarzeau | caphuso: same with mutt |
| 16:59.58 | caphuso | tarzeau: huh? |
| 17:00.06 | tarzeau | i wonder who decided to put so much crap into debian default base install |
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| 17:00.19 | cleit0n | hi, how i get photo of one finepix(fuji) in debian |
| 17:00.21 | tarzeau | default inclusions are bloat |
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| 17:00.36 | caphuso | tarzeau: go look up the definition of "bloat" someday |
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| 17:01.48 | tarzeau | i remember potato fitted below 100 mb |
| 17:01.56 | tarzeau | woody doubled, sarge doubled again |
| 17:02.02 | caphuso | bullshit |
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| 17:02.10 | caphuso | sarge base install is _not_ 400MiB |
| 17:02.24 | tarzeau | but 300? |
| 17:02.29 | asuffield | mutt is in the default install because we got sick of having to install it on everything :P |
| 17:02.29 | Debianiac | Four in 24 hours... I was running the installed: KnoppixV3.9 Unstable-then fully installed Debian Sarge 3.1 (but, it insisted upon Kernel 2.4), so, wnet over to Debian Sarge - Testing, but, couldn't effect Kernel 2.6.11, so, here am I, on Ubuntu Hoary. Wow! the sound works GREAT! So, question is: |
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| 17:02.33 | bucky | the install manual says it's less than 256 |
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| 17:03.19 | bucky | Debianiac, question is why don't you ask in #ubuntu |
| 17:03.36 | takatumi | Debianiac: change you nick as well. |
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| 17:03.44 | Debianiac | How do lI get back to Debian, (as installed upon ANOTHER drive partition) BUT, with a newer kernel? |
| 17:04.03 | takatumi | ah, then you can keep it. |
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| 17:04.31 | Debianiac | Yeah, I like really nice, and helpful, 'experts'! They are GREAT for advocasy! |
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| 17:04.55 | Debianiac | Thanks, takatumi! |
| 17:05.08 | takatumi | Debianiac: boot the installer with 'linux26' for a 2.6 kernel, or install one after the base install. |
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| 17:05.23 | Debianiac | Accidently had hit the return before the completed question... |
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| 17:05.45 | caphuso | oh, you don't actually have to install mutt |
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| 17:06.41 | Debianiac | Not to be too noob, been here since 1997, on FOSS, but, the phraseology passed me by, for me to ask for install26... what format do I use? |
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| 17:07.34 | Debianiac | The sign-in screen? |
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| 17:08.02 | dabreegster | I am eternally in debt of tomsrtbt. Thanks everybody who helped me a little while ago. First thing I'm doing now is installing sash. :) |
| 17:08.35 | resiak | Debianiac: If you're installing Debian from scratch, type linux26 at the first screen rather than just hitting enter. If you're not installing from scratch, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6 |
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| 17:09.18 | resiak | Debianiac: If you want a newer 2.6 than 2.6.8 on Sarge, you'll be compiling your own. Etch (which is the current testing) might have a later 2.6 --- I don't know for sure, though --- so you may have more luck with that. |
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| 17:11.14 | thingfish | last I checked, etch has kernels as high as 2.6.12 |
| 17:11.21 | abrotman | yes |
| 17:11.54 | macks | anyone ever had a problem where your network connection hiccups when your AC or refrigerator turns on? |
| 17:12.09 | mixmatch | how long does it take a kernel version to make it to sid? |
| 17:12.34 | mixmatch | usually... |
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| 17:13.26 | Debianiac | I am running 2.6.10 in Ubuntu, 2.6.11 in Knoppix, both installed on 7Gb partitions, while the Debian DVD from LinuxPro Magazine September 2005 issue installs 4.2.24(?), and, I wnat to get it up to speed to see my newer peripherals, devices, & etc. Thanks! |
| 17:13.53 | resiak | Debianiac: Read what I _just_ _said_ to you? |
| 17:14.04 | hawg | i'm trying to install debian on a laptop, and the base system install is failing. anyone have any ideas why? thanks :) |
| 17:14.36 | pipeline | hawg: You'll have to be more specific. |
| 17:14.39 | mixmatch | whats the error? |
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| 17:14.49 | hawg | "installation step failed" |
| 17:14.56 | abrotman | mixmatch: there's a problem this time for 2.6.13 involvoing initrd and the removal of devfs |
| 17:15.02 | hawg | that's all the info it's giving me :/ |
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| 17:15.11 | Debianiac | Macks, what is lhappening is that your AC mains are ''sagging' or 'drooping' under load, because that house circuit is loaded... switch your router, mmodem, computer power to another circuit! |
| 17:15.21 | dabreegster | hawg: try dmesg on a terminal |
| 17:15.30 | dabreegster | hawg: What was the last thing it was doing? |
| 17:15.39 | takatumi | Debianiac: hit the function keys F1 through 5 or 6, you have all the options there, at your initial prompt. the install guide helps as well. |
| 17:16.06 | hawg | dabreegster: this is the first time i've ever tried to install any Os other than windows, last thing it did was configure the network |
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| 17:16.14 | hawg | then it failed on "detect hardware" too |
| 17:16.32 | Debianiac | Thanks, resiak, and takatumi! |
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| 17:16.44 | vipe | is't possible for a user/group to save files in a writable directory without begin able deleting the files again, using acls ? |
| 17:16.52 | abrotman | mixmatch: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/09/msg00217.html |
| 17:16.57 | mixmatch | abrotman, does this affect kernels I compile myself? |
| 17:16.59 | dabreegster | hawg: Hmm. Switch to the prompt (think it's alt+f2 on the installation thing) and try the 'dmesg' command. What're the last things it's saying? |
| 17:17.00 | vipe | setfacl -m m::rx,u:leech-user:rwx,g:ftp-leech:rwx,o::rx ftp-leech/ |
| 17:17.09 | takatumi | Debianiac: if you want .11 or .12 you'll need testing, sarge will give you .8 |
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| 17:17.14 | homework | #flood |
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| 17:18.09 | abrotman | mixmatch: only if you want to use initrd and devfs :) |
| 17:18.17 | hawg | dabreegster: looks like file system errors, "primary boot sector is invalid" |
| 17:18.25 | abrotman | but since 2.6.13 doesn't include devfs .. i think you would have noticed already :) |
| 17:18.58 | resiak | vipe: You can allow a user to only delete files that they themselves created. |
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| 17:19.05 | linoleum | damn : I got a problem , I removed everything from KDE , with Synaptic ... and now, when I want to do an aptitude dist-upgrade, it wants to reinstall everything for KDE ... !! how can I fix it? |
| 17:19.07 | dabreegster | hawg: I dunno, sorry. |
| 17:19.15 | resiak | linoleum: aptitude remove kde |
| 17:19.20 | hawg | dabreegster: ok, thanks anyway |
| 17:19.20 | resiak | linoleum: (or similar) |
| 17:19.23 | mixmatch | abrotman, does sarge by default? |
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| 17:19.43 | takatumi | !remove kde |
| 17:19.43 | dpkg | hmm... remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 17:19.50 | abrotman | mixmatch: sarge does yes |
| 17:19.56 | vipe | resiak: it's a generic user, they must be able to create files, but delete them again |
| 17:19.56 | Debianiac | takatumi: Almost anything 2.6.x beats 2.4.x for my purposes! |
| 17:19.59 | abrotman | mixmatch: rather . .the sarge kernels prepared by debiand o |
| 17:20.01 | linoleum | resiak, no, it doesn't work |
| 17:20.02 | abrotman | err do |
| 17:20.21 | mixmatch | abrotman, ok, thanks |
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| 17:20.31 | resiak | vipe: I don't think you can do that, no. But why? I mean ... are they allowed to change files after they create them? |
| 17:20.35 | Debianiac | abrotman: Thanks for the great link! |
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| 17:21.04 | abrotman | Debianiac: que? |
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| 17:21.45 | abrotman | Debianiac: ?? |
| 17:22.04 | resiak | abrotman: Thanks for the great link!" |
| 17:22.10 | Debianiac | abrotman: the URl you gave to mixmatch, helps us all to know the newsstuff! |
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| 17:22.34 | abrotman | Debianiac: ah .. ok .. |
| 17:22.35 | vipe | resiak: some one from a game clan came to me to have a look, it's just an [up|down]load server. |
| 17:22.38 | abrotman | resiak: what link! |
| 17:22.41 | vipe | resiak: thx anyway :) |
| 17:22.45 | resiak | abrotman: !!! |
| 17:22.56 | resiak | vipe: Some ftp servers can do this ... hang on |
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| 17:23.49 | caphuso | tarzeau: a debootstrap installation of sarge uses 110MiB after cleaning /var/cache/apt/ |
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| 17:24.12 | Debianiac | Have all the books, O'reilly seems best, but have Sams, McMillian, etc. and, in my LUGs are three authors... but, here, at XChat, is wherewe get better clues... some of us just aren't able to deduce solutions form a dry discussion in a book... |
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| 17:24.33 | resiak | !confuse Debianiac |
| 17:24.34 | dpkg | No, what is our bacon tomorrow, Debianiac? pants of the people's republic of micronesia with extra herring |
| 17:24.57 | takatumi | !agi debian-reference |
| 17:24.58 | dpkg | aptitude install debian-reference |
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| 17:25.08 | Debianiac | abrotman: link is: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/09/msg00217.html |
| 17:25.21 | abrotman | Debianiac: about kernel2.6.13 |
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| 17:25.33 | vipe | resiak: I think proftpd might be able |
| 17:25.35 | linoleum | damn , when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade, everything's ok , but when I want to try aptitude dist-upgrade , it wants to install KDE !! why ??? how can I fix it? |
| 17:25.40 | vipe | resiak: thx for your help |
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| 17:25.47 | abrotman | kde is a virus |
| 17:25.49 | resiak | linoleum: Tell aptitude to remove various kde metapackages! |
| 17:25.50 | linoleum | tes |
| 17:26.02 | linoleum | resiak, but I 've removed already everythings |
| 17:26.15 | resiak | linoleum: But aptitude != synaptic and keeps its own records! |
| 17:26.20 | Debianiac | abrotman: always nice to have aaclue! I might have jumped over to the 'latest' kernel, 2.6.13, and then, would have lost /devfs and initrd?! |
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| 17:26.25 | resiak | vipe: Someone I know has managed it with proftpd |
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| 17:26.33 | abrotman | Debianiac: i'm sure they'll fix you up |
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| 17:27.19 | mixmatch | abrotman, I hope so, because that explains my inability to boot to 2.6.13... |
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| 17:27.36 | linoleum | resiak, yes, that's the problem, how can aptitude and synaptic share the same records??? |
| 17:27.37 | abrotman | mixmatch: are you trying to use initrd and devfs ? |
| 17:27.41 | resiak | linoleum: They don't |
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| 17:27.47 | linoleum | :( |
| 17:27.49 | Phr0zenKore_ | Phr0zenKore: wtf? |
| 17:27.54 | Phr0zenKore_ | why are you respawning forever? |
| 17:28.05 | empty | Wow, what a cool tool- I just discovered 'monit' |
| 17:28.07 | Phr0zenKore_ | Phr0zenKore B gone, ur not the real one... |
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| 17:28.09 | resiak | linoleum: Aptitude does special magical things. You're best off using only aptitude, or anything but. |
| 17:28.24 | linoleum | resiak, ok , I understand |
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| 17:28.26 | loco | Please, how do I search to online debian packages with apt-*? |
| 17:28.35 | abrotman | apt-cache search |
| 17:28.37 | abrotman | apt-file search |
| 17:28.39 | abrotman | packages.debian.org |
| 17:28.40 | empty | loco - apt-cache search foo |
| 17:28.44 | mixmatch | abrotman, I copied the config from 2.6.12 and ran menuconfig... to adjust some devices... from a sarge box |
| 17:28.54 | loco | abrotman, but mine is only searching on my local debian CD |
| 17:28.57 | abrotman | mixmatch: that doesn't seem like a good idea |
| 17:29.03 | abrotman | loco: then update your apt sources |
| 17:29.03 | mixmatch | my drives are non-ide |
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| 17:29.06 | empty | loco - you need to change your apt sources then |
| 17:29.11 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 17:29.24 | loco | abrotman, ok, thanks |
| 17:29.25 | linoleum | and, do you think it's better to use synaptic or aptitude?? |
| 17:29.38 | mixmatch | abrotman, how so? |
| 17:29.48 | empty | linoleum, aptitude > synaptic |
| 17:29.58 | abrotman | mixmatch: because devfs was in 2.6.12 and not in 2.6.13 :) |
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| 17:30.08 | loco | abrotman, thanks you so much :D |
| 17:30.12 | empty | linoleum, in my heart i know aptitude is better than apt but I prefer plain ol' apt |
| 17:30.13 | abrotman | does your 2.6.13 even boot ? |
| 17:30.41 | mwilson | empty: "plain old apt" would have to exist, first. |
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| 17:30.48 | mixmatch | abrotman, until the point where it has to get my sata drives up... |
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| 17:31.09 | abrotman | mixmatch: which sata controller ? |
| 17:31.19 | empty | mwilson, $pedantic++ |
| 17:31.24 | mixmatch | nv and sil |
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| 17:31.36 | abrotman | mixmatch: they don't work in 2.6.8 ? |
| 17:31.42 | mixmatch | both compiled into kernel... |
| 17:31.59 | mixmatch | abrotman, they do |
| 17:32.00 | cmdKeen | which X driver can I use in xorg fo radeon 9250 ? (except fglrx) ? |
| 17:32.06 | loco | anybody here works with gambas? |
| 17:32.11 | abrotman | mixmatch: uhm .. so you're playing with 2.6.13 why ? |
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| 17:32.29 | mwilson | empty: Pedantic, my a**... be precise. You expect a cluebie asking what he should use in the first place to be able to figure out what you're talking about? |
| 17:32.32 | linoleum | if I understand : apt, synaptic, share the same record, and Aptitude shade a different record |
| 17:32.46 | abrotman | seems right |
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| 17:32.52 | mwilson | linoleum: You understand incorrectly. |
| 17:33.06 | mwilson | linoleum: They all use the same records. Aptitude has *additional* records. |
| 17:33.07 | linoleum | arrrggg! |
| 17:33.18 | mixmatch | abrotman, I'm trying to get my marvell network card working, amoung other things |
| 17:33.28 | abrotman | oh lovely :) |
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| 17:33.39 | fken | hello |
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| 17:33.48 | mixmatch | abrotman, quite the contrary |
| 17:33.53 | fken | i still have the same trouble with my cdrom |
| 17:33.58 | fken | its amazing |
| 17:34.21 | empty | mwilson, fine then, plain ol' 'apt' |
| 17:34.27 | mixmatch | abrotman, and I cant get my sata cdrom drive working |
| 17:34.39 | abrotman | jeez .. all kinds of issues |
| 17:34.40 | mwilson | empty: Which doesn't exist. |
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| 17:34.44 | fken | but i have a new information about that : when i change fs from iso9660 to auto the cdrom try to load |
| 17:34.52 | empty | apt - Advanced front-end for dpkg |
| 17:34.58 | empty | according to apt-cache |
| 17:35.08 | empty | But hey, who am I to argue |
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| 17:35.12 | mjk64 | <H1>Online-USV IMV Victron 1.500 VA</H1> <!-- title --> |
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| 17:35.38 | mixmatch | abrotman, I should have known that since it wasn't available it would cause problems |
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| 17:36.07 | empty | mwilson, what would you call it then? "The stock apt-* suite"? |
| 17:36.12 | mjk64 | Dman. |
| 17:36.16 | mjk64 | Damn, even. |
| 17:36.35 | loco | man, Debian rulez.. |
| 17:36.47 | loco | God bless Debian ^^ |
| 17:36.57 | fbi | debian for president! |
| 17:37.06 | loco | dpkg is the best idea ever! |
| 17:37.06 | mwilson | empty: I wouldn't call it anything. I'd never tell a cluebie to use apt-get. |
| 17:37.26 | empty | mwilson, so by "be precise" you mean "be silent" |
| 17:38.05 | pipeline | mwilson is snarky. |
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| 17:38.08 | fbi | empty: trust me, it's useless. (if you catch my drift) |
| 17:38.09 | mwilson | empty: No, if I'd meant that, I'd have said that. Just because *I* would never tell someone to use it, doesn't mean you can't, or won't, or shouldn't. |
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| 17:38.15 | mwilson | empty: That's *your* problem. |
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| 17:38.38 | pipeline | empty: And "apt" does indeed exist -- it's the name of a library that things like apt-get use |
| 17:38.43 | mwilson | empty: But telling someone to use "apt", when there is no tool named "apt", is useless. YOU know what you mean, but he won't. |
| 17:38.59 | mwilson | pipeline: libapt |
| 17:39.04 | empty | mwilson, So in other words you take issue with me calling "apt", "apt", but only because "apt" is something you don't like |
| 17:39.18 | empty | mwilson, 'man apt' works, and |
| 17:39.21 | empty | !apt |
| 17:39.21 | dpkg | hmm... apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. Apt kicks ass. Unless you referring to Sun's 'Annotation Processing Tool', which ... does not 'kick ass.' |
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| 17:39.27 | pipeline | mwilson: libapt is the name of the package. It's common to call libraries by their name. Nobody calls Boost "libboost" |
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| 17:39.40 | ryanakca | what are virtual domains? |
| 17:39.50 | empty | pipeline, unless glibc is the lib in question ;) |
| 17:40.08 | pipeline | glibc is horrible |
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| 17:40.18 | mwilson | pipeline: Dunno. I have no idea what boost is. |
| 17:40.39 | pipeline | mwilson: It's a library that is intended to make C++ bearable. |
| 17:40.49 | mngrif_ | is it possible to force an ide reset on a specific drive? |
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| 17:41.12 | pipeline | mwilson: It's rather common, really. Its most notable feature is bizarre pointer handling that you can use to do ad-hoc garbage collection more easily than simply using new and delete |
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| 17:41.28 | mwilson | empty: Like? What does what I "like" have to do with anything? The fact remains that a cluebie is going to go off looking for a binary named "apt", and not find one. |
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| 17:42.43 | mwilson | empty: He's going to find quite a few with "apt" in their name, though, and then we get treated to the "run random binaries as root to see what they do" problem. |
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| 17:44.47 | EvilBastard | I was sent to the overflow I did not pass go and didnt collect $200 |
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| 17:45.30 | empty | mwilson, OK, whatever- someone who can't use man is a great point, I will now refer to it as "man apt" |
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| 17:47.08 | denn__ | anyone know how to fix the panel problem when you first log into gnome and get "Panel has quit unexpectedly" |
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| 17:51.14 | mixmatch | I just went to the Kubuntu page, and they are alread on version 5. How does this happen??? I think everybody is just using the version that is debial stable and adding to it for every minor release or something |
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| 17:53.43 | abrotman | !moo |
| 17:53.43 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 17:54.00 | abrotman | denn__: start it again ? |
| 17:54.12 | EvilBastard | lol |
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| 17:55.03 | sandman | What's a good way to slow up boot-times? |
| 17:55.08 | sandman | er, speed up rather |
| 17:55.26 | abrotman | start less services |
| 17:55.29 | nksen | build your custom kernel |
| 17:55.33 | abrotman | parallel boot |
| 17:55.39 | EvilBastard | get a faster computer har har |
| 17:55.41 | sandman | parallel boot? |
| 17:55.53 | mixmatch | cut down the wait at the bootloader menu |
| 17:55.57 | abrotman | !parallel boot |
| 17:55.57 | dpkg | rumour has it, parallel boot is http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-boot.html?ca=dnt-437 |
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| 17:56.38 | mixmatch | Linux Journal had a good article on this... |
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| 17:58.46 | abrotman | bots suck |
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| 17:58.59 | abrotman | debhelper: kill! |
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| 17:59.21 | bucky | !dpkg you suck |
| 17:59.21 | dpkg | Dream on, bucky. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
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| 17:59.41 | thingfish | I'll second that. |
| 17:59.42 | bsims | This is wierd kdcop works as expected, but when I start kmail none of the icons or menus work... any ideas what broke? |
| 18:00.09 | abrotman | that's not broken .. that's just how KDE works :) |
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| 18:00.20 | thingfish | hehe |
| 18:00.29 | EvilBastard | lol |
| 18:00.33 | mixmatch | lol |
| 18:00.56 | bsims | abrotman: heh that's why I run my kde apps in Wmaker as God Intended |
| 18:01.05 | abrotman | oh .. cause that makes it all better |
| 18:01.30 | bsims | it looks like dcop isn't playing nicely |
| 18:01.41 | dpy | dcop rules |
| 18:01.50 | abrotman | and it's broken! |
| 18:02.00 | dpy | that's bad |
| 18:02.03 | dpy | but it rules |
| 18:02.12 | dpy | it's like a good invention reinvented |
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| 18:02.16 | dpy | (Amiga ARExx) |
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| 18:02.25 | abrotman | oh ffs .. all of kde is broken .. get over it :) |
| 18:02.27 | rivaldo | hi |
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| 18:02.40 | dpy | don't use unstable |
| 18:02.41 | dpy | :) |
| 18:02.41 | EvilBastard | hallo |
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| 18:02.45 | abrotman | kde is unstable |
| 18:02.48 | abrotman | always |
| 18:02.52 | dpy | unstable = unstable |
| 18:02.59 | abrotman | dumbass |
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| 18:07.55 | Mr_Rock | where can i download the best debian??? |
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| 18:08.29 | abrotman | best? |
| 18:08.32 | Mr_Rock | yes |
| 18:08.33 | oskar__ | Mr_Rock, thats a funny question lol |
| 18:08.36 | Mr_Rock | :P |
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| 18:08.40 | Mr_Rock | i mean |
| 18:08.43 | abrotman | !d-i Mr_Rock |
| 18:08.43 | mixmatch | debian.org |
| 18:08.44 | dpkg | Mr_Rock, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:08.47 | Mr_Rock | the most reciently |
| 18:08.49 | bsims | OK WTF a reboot and kde works again |
| 18:08.52 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.02 | bsims | KDE is taking the windows emulation thing a bit far |
| 18:09.04 | abrotman | bsims: as noted before . kde is krap |
| 18:09.06 | bucky | etch is pretty good.. try etch |
| 18:09.07 | nvz | naturally newer is the best :P |
| 18:09.12 | nvz | dpkg, sns syndrome |
| 18:09.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 18:09.23 | Mr_Rock | ok thankz bye |
| 18:09.31 | Mr_Rock | saludos desde Chile!! |
| 18:09.44 | bucky | pella mi chile |
| 18:09.56 | Mr_Rock | xD |
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| 18:10.14 | Mr_Rock | adios |
| 18:10.19 | Mr_Rock | gracias por la ayuda!!! |
| 18:11.02 | fken | someone to help me with a cdrom fs issue ? |
| 18:11.26 | bucky | iso is the answer.. what was the question |
| 18:11.55 | nvz | heh |
| 18:12.05 | abrotman | bucky: <fken> someone to help me with a cdrom fs issue ? |
| 18:12.10 | abrotman | bucky: and it's a yes/no question :) |
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| 18:13.09 | mixmatch | sandman, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7544 |
| 18:13.20 | abrotman | holy crap .. like hours later :) |
| 18:13.23 | nvz | its a gramatically incorrect question. that could not possibly gain the information (s)he's looking for |
| 18:13.51 | sandman | If I could just get standby to work |
| 18:14.05 | sandman | I run windows on my laptop simply for power management support :( |
| 18:14.07 | mixmatch | time it takes to find an asshole who thinks hes funny in the #debian channel? |
| 18:14.09 | sandman | I don't want to, that's for sure |
| 18:15.01 | nvz | I'd rather run debian with no pm. |
| 18:15.01 | fken | abrotman bucky iso or iso9660 ? |
| 18:15.01 | nvz | then I could use it for a hot plate too |
| 18:15.04 | bucky | fken, are you trying to mount a cd ? |
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| 18:15.12 | nvz | goto a flash site and it'll heat up enought to cook me an omlet |
| 18:15.29 | lunaphyte | why would a disk have to be manually re-added to a RAID1 raidset after a single disk boot? |
| 18:15.58 | fken | bucky yeah |
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| 18:16.17 | fken | yes i meant |
| 18:16.25 | nvz | fken: a data cd? |
| 18:16.31 | fken | yes |
| 18:16.41 | nvz | because you don't mount audio, dvd, or blank discs |
| 18:16.53 | fken | its mp3 cd |
| 18:16.59 | nvz | mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom |
| 18:17.09 | bucky | fken, should be able to just - mount /media/cdrom |
| 18:17.17 | nvz | probably already in fstab and just mount /media/cdrom would work |
| 18:17.50 | bucky | or mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt |
| 18:18.09 | bucky | if you only have one cdrom |
| 18:18.09 | mixmatch | sandman, part II http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7594 |
| 18:18.20 | fken | bucky: then the cdrom dont try to read it and send back : mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so |
| 18:18.31 | mixmatch | sandman, part III http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7857 |
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| 18:21.14 | bucky | fken, it's not an audio cd is it? |
| 18:21.14 | nvz | fken: is the iso9660 filesystem driver loaded? |
| 18:21.14 | ke6isf | Whee, netsplit! |
| 18:21.15 | nvz | usually the kernel autoloader would take care of that |
| 18:21.15 | fken | nvz: i dunno |
| 18:21.15 | fken | bucky: it is a data cd |
| 18:21.15 | nvz | fken: well check :P with lsmod | grep iso9660 | wc -l |
| 18:21.15 | fken | 0 |
| 18:21.15 | fken | lol |
| 18:21.15 | nvz | then its not loaded |
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| 18:21.16 | mixmatch | sandman, did you get the links? |
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| 18:21.16 | fken | but why sometimes the system load it and sometime not |
| 18:21.16 | nvz | I like using that grep | wc -l for people who appear clueless |
| 18:21.16 | nvz | fken: if you want it loaded all the time add it to the list in /etc/modules and modprobe it |
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| 18:21.22 | fken | nvz: but sometimes it works... why sometimes and not another ? |
| 18:21.32 | nvz | apperently you either dont have kernel module autoloader, or its not functioning |
| 18:23.48 | nvz | or you got hotplug or something which isnt doing its job either |
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| 18:33.59 | fken | the lsmod command return the same thing |
| 18:33.59 | valdyn_ | Osiris: apt-proxy or approx |
| 18:33.59 | abrotman | nvz: i was scared .. hold me! |
| 18:33.59 | fken | the lsmod command return the same thing |
| 18:33.59 | Osiris | or maybe is there an other technique.. ? |
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| 18:34.00 | krassy1809 | How i can install more fonts ? |
| 18:34.00 | Osiris | valdyn_, ok, thanks, i'll have a look at this |
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| 18:34.00 | nvz | fken: what the hell are you talking about |
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| 18:34.01 | abrotman | not fair! |
| 18:34.01 | ryanakca | !netsplit |
| 18:34.01 | dpkg | well, netsplit is A deliberate disconnection between (at least) two servers on one IRC network. Usually occurs when the output-queue for the link has filled up too much to make a timely (re)sync likely, so it's preferred to maintain sanity (and lag-freeness) for both parts of the network. Occurs anywhere where links between IRC-servers have too little bandwidth (available/allocated). |
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| 18:34.02 | nvz | Howsabout dem Stillers?! |
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| 18:34.02 | nvz | heh |
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| 18:34.03 | fken | nvz:Ades:/home/fken# modprobe iso9660|Ades:/home/fken# lsmod | grep iso9660 | wc -l|0 |
| 18:34.03 | ke6isf | abrotman: Sunday isn't complete without the weekly netsplit. =^_^= |
| 18:34.03 | darkness2 | Anyone had trouble installing ymessenger? dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb |
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| 18:34.03 | abrotman | weekly ? |
| 18:34.04 | abrotman | darkness2: oh .. i hate those errors! |
| 18:34.04 | dvs | hourly |
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| 18:34.04 | nvz | fken: did the modprobe give any output? |
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| 18:34.04 | ke6isf | abrotman: Well, seems like weekly - that was the trend when I first started showing up here. Always seemed to happen on Sunday. |
| 18:34.04 | fken | nvz: no output |
| 18:34.04 | ke6isf | darkness2: Use gaim. |
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| 18:34.05 | nvz | fken: should have either output to dmesg that it was loaded or given an error on the console |
| 18:34.05 | krassy1809 | How i can install more fonts ? |
| 18:34.05 | fken | nvz i think something is broken but what is it? i dunno |
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| 18:34.05 | streuner | krassy1809: ttf? |
| 18:34.05 | krassy1809 | yes |
| 18:34.05 | ZEA | hi. I've configured my scanner using sane (backend: niash, scanner: hp 3400c). also added myself to the scanner group. why do I get "Failed to open device 'niash(...)': Device busy" as myself but not as root? |
| 18:34.05 | darkness2 | ke6isf: I have just installed gaim. Guess some tim doing the configs is needed. |
| 18:34.05 | streuner | krassy1809: /msg dpkg xf4 ttf |
| 18:34.05 | nvz | fken: no idea paste the output of /var/log/dmesg in a pastebin |
| 18:34.06 | ke6isf | darkness2: What time? I just put in my userid and password and it worked. |
| 18:34.06 | fken | nvz: nothing : the last line is UDF-fs: No partition found (1) because someone adviced me to try udf fs |
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| 18:34.06 | darkness2 | ke6isf: talk.google.com connects but i can't get chat rooms etc? |
| 18:34.07 | nvz | darkness2: yeah when I did that I had a bunch of old men with no pants trying to talk to me. |
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| 18:34.07 | darkness2 | nvz: :-P |
| 18:34.07 | fken | nvz: is it the same thing as what dmesg command return? |
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| 18:34.08 | nvz | fken: I am not talking about the dmesg command |
| 18:34.08 | fken | oh ok |
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| 18:34.09 | fken | wait i do it |
| 18:34.09 | nvz | fken: I am talking about the full context of the kernel output at boot |
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| 18:34.09 | ke6isf | darkness2: That would be google talk/jabber. I have even less experience with that than the Yahoo portion in gaim, but near as I can tell it's pretty much the same. |
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| 18:34.10 | Yulia | hi... |
| 18:34.10 | fken | konqueror refuse to work |
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| 18:34.10 | Yulia | i have unistalled mysql-common and server,and when i try to install it again, this is what it says:http://pastebin.com/373902 |
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| 18:34.11 | nvz | fken: I figured this out. User error, replace user and bang head off keyboard. |
| 18:34.11 | Yulia | cant connect to socket, cause threre is no socket |
| 18:34.11 | krassy1809 | how i can install debian package ? |
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| 18:34.11 | abrotman | man apt-get ; man dpkg |
| 18:34.12 | nvz | s/keyboard./keyboard to continue./ |
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| 18:34.12 | ke6isf | Yulia: Have you taken a look at the syslog, like it suggests in line 5? |
| 18:34.12 | fken | nvz: i am sorry i dont understand |
| 18:34.12 | ke6isf | krassy1809: apt-get, of course. |
| 18:34.13 | esa | hello, is there possible to make with bash-coding that font what you type in shell is invisible like login with ssh to system.. i'm making script where user type his password and i want it to not be showed.. |
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| 18:34.13 | SupIAmMike | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/ieee80211 |
| 18:34.13 | nvz | dpkg, pebkac |
| 18:34.13 | dpkg | somebody said pebkac was Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, or PEBCAK. PEBMAC, PICNIC. PEBRHAL, or http://pebkac.ubergoth.net/ |
| 18:34.13 | SupIAmMike | why doesnt apt-get install ieee80211 or apt-get install ieee80211-source work? |
| 18:34.13 | SupIAmMike | no package found |
| 18:34.13 | ZEA | I've configured my scanner using sane+niash+libusb. all works fine as root. why do I get device busy as a normal user? ps: I added that user to group scanner |
| 18:34.13 | fken | nvz: lol |
| 18:34.14 | nvz | ZEA: and did you log out and then log back in again as that user? |
| 18:34.14 | ZEA | ops, not here, sorry about the parrot |
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| 18:34.14 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: Possibly because there are no packages for this. |
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| 18:34.14 | ZEA | nvz: yes, I did that, still get the same |
| 18:34.15 | fken | nvz: ok i understand but the problem is certainly famd another time |
| 18:34.15 | ke6isf | !info ieee80211 |
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| 18:34.15 | ke6isf | !info ieee80211-source |
| 18:34.15 | dpkg | ieee80211-source: (Source for the 802.11 (wireless) network stack for Linux), section net, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 59 kB, Installed size: 140 kB |
| 18:34.15 | Yulia | ke6isf, http://pastebin.com/373918, i do not see any information ussefull |
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| 18:34.16 | solemnwarning | hi all |
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| 18:34.16 | solemnwarning | when i staticly set an ip how do i set gateway? |
| 18:34.16 | SupIAmMike | ke6isf, see dpkg knows ieee80211-source and so does that site http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/ieee80211 |
| 18:34.16 | fken | nvz : killall famd and the konqueror windows open itself |
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| 18:34.17 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: I concur, but it doesn't seem to exist in Sarge. Testing... dunno. |
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| 18:34.18 | nvz | hmm its working but so slow its timing out more often than not. that would explain why I got no images on nfl.com the first time |
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| 18:34.20 | ke6isf | Yulia: Try engaging the daemon by way of mysqld_safe. What does that do? |
| 18:34.20 | ke6isf | Yulia: Mind you, it's been a bit since I ran mysql. |
| 18:34.20 | abrotman | or he could ask #mysql |
| 18:34.20 | ke6isf | abrotman: Good point. |
| 18:34.20 | Yulia | i did it. |
| 18:34.20 | SupIAmMike | ke6isf, how do i find out if it will exist eventually or whats up with it? |
| 18:34.20 | Yulia | no help |
| 18:34.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yahoo! |
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| 18:35.02 | abrotman | google! |
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| 18:35.10 | scarynetworkguy | Lycos! |
| 18:35.14 | abrotman | excite! |
| 18:35.19 | xinming_Beijing | hmm, /msg dpkg wmv gives me an url which can't be opened. So anyone else here can give me another url for accessing the win32codecs? |
| 18:35.26 | solemnwarning | when i staticly set an ip how do i set gateway? |
| 18:35.27 | scarynetworkguy | Dogpile! |
| 18:35.28 | ke6isf | abrotman: Excite?! Don't talk so dirty in here! =^_^= |
| 18:35.29 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 18:35.29 | dpkg | somebody said marillat was an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
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| 18:35.35 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: msn! |
| 18:35.43 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: Google, of course. Check debian.org as well, or ask on the mailing list. |
| 18:36.04 | nvz | da iggles are gettin stomped right now |
| 18:36.05 | sean_micken | i want to run unstable on one of my boxes... i've just installed the sarge and haven't touched it yet.. should i just put "unstable" in the sources.list and do a dist-upgrade? |
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| 18:36.20 | ke6isf | !iyhtays sean_micken |
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| 18:36.20 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Gopher! |
| 18:36.20 | dpkg | sean_micken: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
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| 18:36.31 | Yulia | ke6isf, really do not to do. i unistall mysql-common, mysql-server, and phpmyadmin, and idem |
| 18:36.32 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: that's not a search engine .. that's a protocol! |
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| 18:36.39 | nvz | ask jeeves isnt even a search engine. |
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| 18:37.02 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Hehe. Yes it is. |
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| 18:37.04 | nvz | all it does is submit all the other search urls |
| 18:37.21 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: But isn't msn a fucked up ISP or something? |
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| 18:37.31 | nvz | making it more difficult to find what you are looking for. |
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| 18:37.36 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: msn.com |
| 18:37.41 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: gopher is like dealtime |
| 18:37.43 | nvz | abrotman: northernlight |
| 18:37.48 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Ahh. I had forgetn about that. |
| 18:37.49 | ke6isf | scarynetworkguy: It's a fucked up ISP, search, and email thing, and IM thing, all rolled into one. Oh, and it's news too. |
| 18:37.50 | sean_micken | ke6isf, well, this is going to be just for testing out e17... is that all i will need to do to upgade the system to sid? |
| 18:38.08 | ke6isf | sean_micken: I say it again. If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 18:38.27 | ke6isf | !tell sean_micken -about dist-upgrade |
| 18:38.29 | sean_micken | ke6isf, tell me what i have to lose. |
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| 18:38.39 | abrotman | !dr17 |
| 18:38.41 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 18:38.44 | ke6isf | !tell sean_micken -about why not dist upgrade |
| 18:38.57 | solemnwarning | hello?? |
| 18:39.02 | solemnwarning | i need to set this fast |
| 18:39.05 | solemnwarning | when i staticly set an ip how do i set gateway? |
| 18:39.16 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Does nmap count as a search engine? |
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| 18:39.25 | nvz | looks like northernlight as a public web search engine is no more |
| 18:39.26 | Yulia | ke6isf, any help for me? |
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| 18:39.37 | ke6isf | Yulia: Unfortunately, no, I'm stumped. Sorry. |
| 18:39.45 | Daedalus_ | solemnwarning: are you using the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 18:39.46 | ke6isf | Yulia: Like I said, I haven't run mysql in a while. |
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| 18:39.49 | Alzabar | hi people |
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| 18:39.58 | Daedalus_ | solemnwarning, or by hand? |
| 18:39.59 | SupIAmMike | how do i know if i am stable, unstable, or testing |
| 18:40.01 | nvz | looks like they are trying to be ebsco host now |
| 18:40.05 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: only if you're searching for machines to h4xx0r6 |
| 18:40.05 | solemnwarning | Daedalus_: yes, /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 18:40.06 | Yulia | thx u anyway ke6isf |
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| 18:40.15 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: You look in your /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 18:40.15 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Hehe. |
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| 18:40.29 | Alzabar | I just installed kde but the sound driver dont load what do I do |
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| 18:40.30 | sean_micken | ke6isf, if there's a way to run e17 w/out running an otherwise unstable system, please let me know. |
| 18:40.30 | abrotman | nvz: that was dead a while ag |
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| 18:40.32 | abrotman | ago |
| 18:40.33 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: And if I remember correctly, you're stable. |
| 18:40.36 | Daedalus_ | solemnwarning, under the iface ethX line, you need a gateway XX.XX.XX.XX line |
| 18:40.44 | solemnwarning | thanks |
| 18:40.47 | nvz | only difference is ebscohost has way more information and I have free access to it. |
| 18:40.47 | ke6isf | sean_micken: No idea, I don't run enlightenment. |
| 18:40.54 | SupIAmMike | do i want to be stable? |
| 18:41.11 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I only use open relays for evil. So it's all good, right? |
| 18:41.11 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: If you ahve to ask, yes. |
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| 18:41.37 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: since they are evil .. and two evils make a good .. i think .. yes .. you're going to heaven! |
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| 18:41.46 | abrotman | god my spelling is getting bad |
| 18:41.47 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yay! |
| 18:41.49 | nvz | abrotman: I wasnt aware. I always hated it. our dumb librarian at school thought it was one of the best search engines. |
| 18:41.49 | SupIAmMike | is unstable or testing less stable? |
| 18:41.49 | scarynetworkguy | :win me. |
| 18:41.52 | xiz | how can i get back to the monitor setup after i did apt install x-window-system |
| 18:41.56 | scarynetworkguy | !win me. |
| 18:41.57 | dpkg | Congratulations, me.! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 18:42.15 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: Mu. |
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| 18:42.22 | nvz | someone should sue AOL for littering |
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| 18:42.49 | lakcaj | !tell xiz about drx |
| 18:42.53 | ke6isf | nvz: That reminds me, I wonder what happened to those guys who were going to truck a load of mailed out AOHell disks back to AOL HQ. |
| 18:43.01 | SupIAmMike | ke6isf, what is Mu? |
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| 18:43.07 | ke6isf | !mu |
| 18:43.07 | dpkg | When asked by a monk if a dog had Buddha Nature, Joshu said "Mu." |
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| 18:43.31 | nvz | even the cds that are used are eventually thrown away and not properly recycled and the materials they are made from are all synthetic. they are a hazard to the environment |
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| 18:43.55 | SupIAmMike | ke6isf, if i want to switch from stable to unstable do i just change my sources.list |
| 18:43.56 | SupIAmMike | ? |
| 18:43.59 | nvz | and probably 99.9% of them are unsolicited and never used for anything. |
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| 18:44.05 | ke6isf | SupIAmMike: If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
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| 18:44.38 | nvz | the other 0.1% are used for cupholders, frisbees, and the occational signon for a few free weeks of internet |
| 18:44.40 | ke6isf | nvz: I use mine for coasters. They don't work that well though. |
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| 18:44.51 | nvz | yeah coasters I mean |
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| 18:45.06 | ke6isf | nvz: A cup holder is that retractable tray that comes out of the front of your computer, remember? =^_^= |
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| 18:45.23 | fken | nvz:http://pastebin.com/373936 |
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| 18:45.41 | nvz | yeah they have a program for winodws that is similar to the eject program that is called cupholder |
| 18:45.45 | fken | nvz : sorry for the time it required but i was speaking on another channel |
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| 18:46.13 | Alzabar | my sound driver wont load I dont know what to do |
| 18:46.25 | dvs | Alzabar: panic? ;-) |
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| 18:46.43 | dvs | Alzabar: Which kernel are you using? |
| 18:46.52 | Alzabar | 2.4 |
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| 18:47.02 | SupIAmMike | does anyone else know if changing stable to unstable in sources.list that will take me to unstable or if there are some dependancy problems and i will need to do a distro update? |
| 18:47.06 | dvs | Alzabar: Do you want ALSA or OSS? |
| 18:47.14 | naoliv | What is the problem with the guy that filled bug number #330031??? |
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| 18:47.27 | Alzabar | I am not sure I am new to linux |
| 18:47.56 | dvs | Alzabar: Ok. Let's go ALSA then. Do "apt-get install alsa-modules-$(uname -r)" as root |
| 18:48.05 | Alzabar | it says in sarge OSS is already loaded but when I log into kde says there is no such device and cant load the sound driver |
| 18:48.20 | Alzabar | ok |
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| 18:49.18 | Alzabar | ok apt is getting it now |
| 18:49.27 | fbi | why not just install a 2.6 kernel and forget about 2.4 alsa-modules? |
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| 18:49.51 | dvs | fbi: Upgrading a kernel is a bit more of a hassle. |
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| 18:50.05 | Alzabar | yeah especially for a newb like me |
| 18:50.17 | dvs | fbi: Unless he's willing to install from scratch but that's a bit extreme just to get sound working. |
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| 18:50.36 | g0rd0n | i have a problem, the backspace key is not correctly mapped everywhere... on plain console it works, but in nano or kernel make menuconfig it doesnt, also, the arrow keys dont work correctly in the kernel menuconfig... where are those settings made? |
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| 18:50.43 | ke6isf | dvs: kernel upgrade isn't *that* hard. 'apt-get kernel-image-blablabla', reboot. Boom, done. |
| 18:50.52 | fbi | using apt-get to install a new kernel and rebooting is a hassle? |
| 18:51.09 | Rydekull | hrms, noone got a good tip on a great guide for openldap with ssl-support to manage users? |
| 18:51.15 | dvs | ke6isf: Between minor revisions, I'd agree. |
| 18:51.17 | Alzabar | well |
| 18:51.19 | nvz | fken: grep ISO9660_FS /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 18:51.24 | Alzabar | I guess I could do that |
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| 18:51.46 | fken | CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=m |
| 18:51.50 | nvz | fken: note also that your are using an experimental kernel that is not officially supported. |
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| 18:51.58 | Alzabar | is this normal depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o |
| 18:52.02 | dvs | Alzabar: You want to upgrade your kernel? |
| 18:52.03 | nvz | fken: I was hoping you werent going to say that |
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| 18:52.11 | fken | nvz: the 2.6.12-1 ? |
| 18:52.15 | nvz | fken: I have no idea why the module isnt loaded |
| 18:52.21 | Alzabar | sure |
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| 18:52.22 | dumezil | hmm... i can't get my cdrom to eject... when i push the button, nothing happens, and when i execute 'eject' i get not an sg device, or old sg driver\n eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument" any ideas? |
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| 18:52.42 | nvz | fken: thats not what kernel you are using. you are using 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 |
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| 18:52.45 | dvs | Alzabar: Then "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6" then |
| 18:52.48 | Alzabar | but will it affect anything I installed |
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| 18:53.00 | fken | nvz : ps: ide-cd and ide_scsi are working together creating two devices |
| 18:53.03 | dvs | Alzabar: Yes, your system may not boot |
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| 18:53.18 | Alzabar | so what do I do |
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| 18:53.32 | Alzabar | fresh install of sarge? |
| 18:53.38 | fken | nvz: yeah i am using the one of my amd64 testing |
| 18:53.42 | ke6isf | Alzabar: What kernel are you looking to upgrade to? |
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| 18:53.45 | nvz | fken: ide_scsi should be asked to ignore your cdrom if you need it for the sata for some reason |
| 18:53.46 | dvs | Alzabar: up to you. Either upgrade your kernel or just use your existing 2.4 kernel |
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| 18:54.06 | dvs | Alzabar: A fresh install is also an option but that's a bit extreem |
| 18:54.10 | nvz | fken: there is no longer _any_ reason to be scsi emulating IDE ATAPI cdroms |
| 18:54.18 | dvs | *extreme* |
| 18:54.28 | Alzabar | well I just did that only thing I installed was kde and x |
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| 18:54.40 | fbi | Alzabar: if you are using grub, and the 2.6 kernel gives you any problems, you will still have the option to boot the 2.4 kernel |
| 18:54.50 | nvz | fken: that still doesnt explain why your modprobe returns no output as you say and iso9660 isnt being loaded |
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| 18:55.01 | Alzabar | yeah grub is installed |
| 18:55.03 | dvs | Alzabar: Personally, I'd upgrade the kernel |
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| 18:55.07 | nvz | I would tail the dmesg command and be absolutly sure that nothing is getting loaded |
| 18:55.09 | Alzabar | alright |
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| 18:55.26 | dvs | !info kernel-image-386-2.6 sarge |
| 18:55.28 | ryanakca | how do you force a copy. I get this error when trying to copy a folder: cp: omitting directory `sqwebmail' |
| 18:55.29 | fken | nvz: ill try again now famd is killed |
| 18:55.47 | ke6isf | !info kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 sarge |
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| 18:55.54 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.8-16 (sarge), Packaged size: 13722 kB, Installed size: 41240 kB |
| 18:56.07 | ke6isf | Alzabar: What flavor processor are you on? |
| 18:56.14 | nvz | fken: actually my fucking machine is doing the same thing. |
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| 18:56.17 | Lilldude_ | how do you format linux hd fat 16? |
| 18:56.21 | Alzabar | ok so whats the dif between 386 and 686 |
| 18:56.23 | dvs | Alzabar: Try "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386" as root |
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| 18:56.30 | Alzabar | ok |
| 18:56.33 | dvs | Alzabar: 686 would work too |
| 18:56.33 | ke6isf | Alzabar: Commpiler optimazation. |
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| 18:56.40 | nvz | fken: I did modprobe iso9660 and id showed no output in dmesg or on console, then when I did rmmod iso9660 it says its not loaded |
| 18:56.44 | ke6isf | Lilldude_: You don't, if you know what's good for you. =^_^= |
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| 18:56.54 | nvz | fken: I have no idea what that shit is about |
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| 18:56.58 | quitttt | # Appears as DAN |
| 18:56.58 | Alzabar | ok I did 386 |
| 18:57.04 | quitttt | (#G110E110M1) hey |
| 18:57.09 | ke6isf | Alzabar: What kind of processor are you running? |
| 18:57.25 | quitttt | (#G210E410M1) hey |
| 18:57.33 | Alzabar | celeron |
| 18:57.33 | quitttt | (#G:10E710M1) well |
| 18:57.37 | quitttt | (#G110E<10M1) Microsoft Chat rox |
| 18:57.41 | dvs | Alzabar: GET 686 |
| 18:57.43 | quitttt | (#G210E110M1) it is great... really great |
| 18:57.46 | Lilldude_ | ke6if what you mean? |
| 18:57.46 | dvs | sorry, caps lock |
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| 18:57.51 | Alzabar | too late |
| 18:57.51 | fken | nvz: tell me how to ask ide_scsi to not load cdrom emulation please |
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| 18:57.59 | dvs | Alzabar: Never too late ;-) |
| 18:58.03 | quitttt | (#G:10E410M1) why there isn't a opensource clone of it? |
| 18:58.07 | fbi | wtf |
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| 18:58.10 | ke6isf | Alzabar: You answered, 'celeron'. That's what I mean. Follow dvs' instructions. |
| 18:58.10 | fken | nvz:no one was able to do that before |
| 18:58.16 | dvs | Alzabar: "apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6-386" |
| 18:58.17 | Alzabar | so I guess I apt-get it again huh |
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| 18:58.22 | ke6isf | !ops quitttt is flooding the channel with gibberish.... |
| 18:58.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: quitttt is flooding the channel with gibberish.... |
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| 18:58.29 | quitttt | (#G110E:18M1) :) |
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| 18:58.51 | ke6isf | !beer caphuso |
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| 18:59.26 | Alzabar | ok installing |
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| 18:59.39 | madclicker | need help with firefox on debian and themes or extension. I can install neither |
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| 18:59.54 | ke6isf | Alzabar: You'll want to remove the 2.6.8-2-386 kernel you installed, if anything. |
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| 19:00.02 | ke6isf | madclicker: What are the symptoms? |
| 19:00.04 | Alzabar | yes I removed it |
| 19:00.22 | dvs | Alzabar: Is the 2.6.8-2-686 installed? |
| 19:00.24 | ke6isf | Alzabar: OK, good show. Once you're done installing, reboot and select that kernel. Should work cleanly. |
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| 19:00.47 | dvs | Alzabar: If the new one doesn't work, choose the old one from the grub menu |
| 19:00.49 | Alzabar | yeah should is the key word |
| 19:00.53 | foxman | how do i install the scsi drivers for my cdrom drive so i can write cds? |
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| 19:00.54 | Alzabar | ok no problem |
| 19:01.03 | madclicker | ke6isf, it tells me do you want to install , i say yes and nothing happens |
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| 19:01.14 | Alzabar | ugh I need to get gnome instead |
| 19:01.20 | Blissex | foxman: you only need to do that with kernel 2.4, not anymore with kernel 2.6 |
| 19:01.22 | nvz | that makes no sense to me |
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| 19:01.41 | Alzabar | or some other x desktop |
| 19:01.41 | nvz | fken: I have no idea I would read the kernel documentation |
| 19:01.42 | Blissex | foxman: also, there is a very nice CD recording HOWTO that explains the 'ide-scsi' issue in detail. |
| 19:01.44 | ke6isf | madclicker: What tells you do want to install? Firefox or apt-get? |
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| 19:02.15 | foxman | thanks |
| 19:02.21 | Alzabar | ok |
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| 19:02.28 | Alzabar | lets reboot brb peeps |
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| 19:02.35 | dvs | hopefully |
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| 19:02.36 | ke6isf | Alzabar: See you in a minute. |
| 19:02.55 | fken | nvz:omg in english |
| 19:03.10 | nvz | *plonk* |
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| 19:03.59 | madclicker | ke6isf, i go to "Tools/Extensions" "Get Extensions" takes me to a mozilla extension page; I select the extension than press "Install Now" |
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| 19:04.18 | ke6isf | madclicker: OK, so this is Firefox telling you. |
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| 19:05.01 | madclicker | ke6isf, yes from firefox, on any other system i get installation happening but on debian nada |
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| 19:05.32 | ke6isf | madclicker: What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 19:05.52 | madclicker | ke6isf, i tried sarge now sid none of them work |
| 19:05.53 | foxman | whats the best channel for cd rw help? i need to make the scsi driver things work... |
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| 19:06.20 | nvz | foxman: scsi is no longer used for ide atapi burners |
| 19:06.20 | grendal_prime | that was werid |
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| 19:06.36 | ke6isf | foxman: Use a 2.6. kernel. |
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| 19:06.39 | foxman | how do i get it to write cds then with my ide cd writer? |
| 19:06.39 | dvs | foxman: Which kernel |
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| 19:06.45 | foxman | dont i have to edit the kernel? |
| 19:06.47 | grendal_prime | ok dri...is there some way of getting the module load results of x in a like logfile? |
| 19:06.49 | foxman | 2.6 |
| 19:06.55 | dvs | ok |
| 19:06.56 | nvz | foxman: usage of ide-scsi is deprecated from that purpose you use ide-cd instead |
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| 19:06.59 | grendal_prime | cause the usual log fille for x is helping me none |
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| 19:07.12 | foxman | what do i do to make it work then? |
| 19:07.29 | dvs | foxman: Add yourself to the cdrom group. |
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| 19:07.45 | foxman | what just =cdrom? |
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| 19:07.50 | foxman | #cdrom? |
| 19:08.01 | dvs | foxman: adduser <user> cdrom |
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| 19:08.15 | dvs | foxman: as root |
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| 19:09.17 | foxman | adduser: No more than two names.??? |
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| 19:09.59 | herlix | hello all |
| 19:10.16 | foxman | oh wait, im already a member of cdrom! |
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| 19:10.51 | dvs | foxman: How are you trying to burn the CD image? |
| 19:11.07 | foxman | with nero linux |
| 19:11.08 | dumezil | is there an easy way to see how much ram your video card has? |
| 19:11.17 | ke6isf | foxman: Why not just use k3b? |
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| 19:11.32 | fbi | i didn't even know nero had a linux app |
| 19:11.37 | foxman | k3b? |
| 19:11.43 | dvs | fbi: You don't want to know ;-) |
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| 19:11.44 | ke6isf | dumezil: why? |
| 19:11.47 | ke6isf | foxman: Yeah, k3b. |
| 19:12.02 | fbi | dvs: somehow i already knew it sucked heh |
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| 19:12.14 | dumezil | ke6isf: i have another video card and i know how much ram it has, and i want to see if its worth it to switch |
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| 19:12.33 | ke6isf | dumezil: You might be able to get the information in question from lspci. |
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| 19:12.39 | dumezil | nope... tried |
| 19:12.43 | mwilson | dumezil: Why would the amount of RAM on the card be a measure of whether or not you'd switch? |
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| 19:13.52 | foxman | what is k3b? |
| 19:13.59 | foxman | ive got gnome cd baker |
| 19:14.03 | foxman | that wont work either |
| 19:14.03 | dumezil | cause as far as i know they are almost identical in gpu and ram is the only thing separating them |
| 19:14.04 | ke6isf | foxman: It's a CD burning package. |
| 19:14.06 | mwilson | A crappy KDE cdrecord front-end. |
| 19:14.06 | john | k3b is a cd burning software |
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| 19:14.09 | dvs | foxman: Something ten times better than nero for linux |
| 19:14.18 | Mrbear | back |
| 19:14.21 | john | mwilson: why "crappy"? |
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| 19:14.23 | mwilson | dumezil: Then why switch? |
| 19:14.23 | Mrbear | its Alzabar |
| 19:14.25 | herlix | i'am use ImacG3 with debian sarge, but function in the keyboard not make |
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| 19:14.50 | dvs | Alzabar: /exec -o uname -r |
| 19:14.50 | Alzabar | kernel 2.6 is working |
| 19:14.50 | fbi | dumezil: you could try booting a live cd, knoppix is good about showing your video hardware info during the boot process |
| 19:14.52 | mwilson | john: It's a KDE application. What else could it be? Functionality is never high on the KDE requirements list. |
| 19:14.53 | foxman | when i do cdrecord and list the devices, my atapi ide cd writer does not show up! |
| 19:14.56 | nvz | john: because he already knows how to use cdrecord and doesnt like kde |
| 19:15.00 | dvs | !beer Alzabar |
| 19:15.01 | john | mwilson: hehe true. |
| 19:15.02 | mwilson | foxman: Correct. |
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| 19:15.15 | john | nvz: yeah sure! it's a nice GUI for cdrecord though. :/ |
| 19:15.24 | Alzabar | whats was the last command for> |
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| 19:15.40 | dvs | Alzabar: Prints the kernel version in your irc client |
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| 19:15.43 | nvz | john: I agree. I use it sometimes when I feel like doing the clicky-clicky way |
| 19:15.50 | foxman | so what do i do, i have to get the scsi drivers for my cd writer and edit my kernal, or use a module? or something else? |
| 19:15.56 | Alzabar | 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 19:16.01 | dvs | yay |
| 19:16.04 | ke6isf | !coffee Alzabar |
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| 19:16.08 | Alzabar | woot |
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| 19:16.13 | herlix | help me O.o |
| 19:16.35 | dvs | Alzabar: Try "apt-get install alsa-base" to see if it's installed |
| 19:16.45 | Alzabar | herlix you need to be descritive |
| 19:16.57 | Alzabar | ok |
| 19:16.57 | foxman | so what do i do, i have to get the scsi drivers for my cd writer and edit my kernal, or use a module? or something else?!!! |
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| 19:17.13 | ke6isf | Alzabar: s/he posted earlier, having trouble with an imacg3 keyboard or somesuch. |
| 19:17.13 | dvs | foxman: scsi drivers are no longer needed for 2.6 |
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| 19:17.18 | foxman | ok |
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| 19:17.23 | foxman | dvs what do i do? |
| 19:17.27 | mwilson | Other than for SCSI devices. |
| 19:17.30 | mwilson | :) |
| 19:17.32 | Alzabar | its already installed |
| 19:17.33 | herlix | i'am use IMac G3 with debian sarge, but function of the mouse no make |
| 19:17.34 | foxman | its not listed in my cd record thing, how do i make it list? |
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| 19:17.42 | dvs | foxman: cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI |
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| 19:17.45 | fbi | Alzabar: run alsaconf, as root |
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| 19:17.58 | dvs | Alzabar: what fbi said |
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| 19:18.18 | orangey | hey all! |
| 19:18.23 | ke6isf | !ar |
| 19:18.23 | dpkg | hmm... ar is argon or a program to create, modify, and extract from archives (man ar), or in binutils, or argentina |
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| 19:18.29 | foxman | scsibus0: |
| 19:18.29 | foxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.36 | Alzabar | umm says it cant find any sounds cards |
| 19:18.42 | fbi | doh! |
| 19:18.51 | ke6isf | Alzabar: What kind of sound card are you running? |
| 19:18.54 | orangey | would somebody here happen to know much about RAID? I have 2 250gb hds, and I wonder if it's worth trying to raid them in some way.. |
| 19:18.56 | fbi | Alzabar: i think we found your sound issue. |
| 19:19.02 | herlix | Alzabar: 'am use IMac G3 with debian sarge, but function of the mouse no make |
| 19:19.03 | dvs | Alzabar: Well, at least you got a shiny new kernel out of it. ;-) |
| 19:19.05 | Alzabar | I have a Sound blaster 24bit live |
| 19:19.21 | x86jimmy | orangey: do you want a 500 meg raid or a mirroring raid? |
| 19:19.28 | Alzabar | I have also a onboard one |
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| 19:19.48 | ke6isf | herlix: If people don't know, they generally won't respond. |
| 19:19.48 | orangey | x86jimmy, well, I want some redundancy, but I think that full mirroring isn't desirable. |
| 19:19.49 | ke6isf | !repeat |
| 19:19.49 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 19:20.00 | orangey | I understand, though, that RAID gives the in-betweens, but I'm not sure if it's possible with 2 HDs. |
| 19:20.10 | x86jimmy | orangey: with two drives, your only option would be raid0 or raid1 |
| 19:20.16 | ke6isf | dpkg: You might follow dpkg's instructions (above). |
| 19:20.19 | Alzabar | wants to know if it wants to probe legacy IS sound cards |
| 19:20.24 | Alzabar | ISA* |
| 19:20.25 | ke6isf | oops.... |
| 19:20.28 | tarzeau | is there some debian developer feeling like sponsoring a bunch of things? |
| 19:20.30 | x86jimmy | orangey: if you got another 250 meg drive then you could raid5 |
| 19:20.32 | orangey | x86jimmy, neither of those really appeal to me.. if I add a third HD, the options increase? |
| 19:20.34 | ke6isf | herlix: You might follow dpkg's instructions (above). |
| 19:20.39 | foxman | there is no real point in raidunles your hd is full of valuble data, if you back up regulary, then dont bother |
| 19:20.40 | dvs | Alzabar: Well, it ain't a legacy card, that's for sure. |
| 19:20.45 | Alzabar | yeah |
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| 19:20.49 | Alzabar | so what do I do now |
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| 19:21.21 | herlix | yes.. i use gpm and dpkg-reconfigure... |
| 19:21.23 | mwilson | foxman: And you figure that how, exactly? RAID is in no way any sort of substitute for backups. |
| 19:21.29 | x86jimmy | orangey: check this site out - http://www.acnc.com/raid.html |
| 19:21.34 | dvs | Alzabar: I think that's the snd_emu10k1 driver but I'm not sure |
| 19:21.49 | ke6isf | orangey: Why raid? |
| 19:21.57 | alan | how do i get grub-install to re-auto-detect the installed kernels? |
| 19:22.06 | herlix | ke6isf: yes.i use gpm and dpkg-reconfigure |
| 19:22.11 | dvs | alan: update-grub |
| 19:22.13 | Alzabar | how do I check that driver |
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| 19:22.24 | ke6isf | !tell herlix -about repeat |
| 19:22.28 | orangey | x86jimmy, woah! that's a great site.. all the others do a terribly generic (and generally terrible) job of explaining it! |
| 19:22.30 | alan | dvs, thanks... something so simple.... >.< |
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| 19:22.35 | fbi | Alzabar: is that the 7.1 live card? if so, i believe it uses a different driver |
| 19:22.39 | fbi | check the alsa page |
| 19:22.39 | ke6isf | herlix: While it's not totally relevant, the 'repeat' factoid also contains other suggestions for getting more help. |
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| 19:22.46 | orangey | ke6isf, well, I haven't decided to go with RAID, but people are talking about it, and I understand it gives fault tolerance, so that's what I want.. |
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| 19:22.50 | thingfish | there's no #debian op named sagan, is there? |
| 19:22.54 | herlix | ke6isf: my mouse one buton. |
| 19:22.55 | x86jimmy | orangey: i'd go raid5 if you can get another 250 gig hdd |
| 19:22.55 | Alzabar | hmm |
| 19:22.58 | dvs | !alsa-project |
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| 19:23.09 | Alzabar | yes it is |
| 19:23.13 | ke6isf | orangey: OK, simply put, ask on debian-users list. |
| 19:23.15 | orangey | If I lose 100gb on 500 to give myself great tolerance, I'm down with that. |
| 19:23.15 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: is it possible to start a linux install from mol? like the way i did with osx |
| 19:23.16 | Alzabar | lucky I kept the box |
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| 19:23.20 | x86jimmy | orangey: otherwise, raid0 if you want space, or raid1 if you want redundency |
| 19:23.23 | ke6isf | orangey: No, strike that. Wrong person. |
| 19:23.27 | ke6isf | herlix: : OK, simply put, ask on debian-users list. |
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| 19:23.31 | fbi | Alzabar: go to the alsa homepage, look for the correct driver for that card |
| 19:23.31 | ke6isf | orangey: ...sorry. |
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| 19:23.38 | Alzabar | alright |
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| 19:24.13 | thingfish | dondelelcaro: excuse me, but did you by any chance ban this person: ip68-224-126-226.lv.lv.cox.net? He's bugging me to get unbanned. |
| 19:24.13 | ke6isf | orangey: Thing is, you probably don't need a raid if you just have two disks. Three or four...well, there you go, that's a good start, and even then, I've seen software RAIDs self destruct. |
| 19:24.15 | ryanakca | I'm confused. If I can send mail, it means postfix is working, but if I cant receive mail its because courier isnt working... right? |
| 19:24.20 | xeon_ | how can i change grub bootloader settings? |
| 19:24.23 | Phr0zenKore_ | [AMSG] Have to go, bed, mom, angry, pissed off, pulling me off pc [AMSG] |
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| 19:25.02 | orangey | x86jimmy and ke6isf: getting a third is definitely an option, so I'll look into that and then try for raid 5 |
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| 19:25.13 | orangey | ke6isf, what should I watch out for in terms of "self destructing" software raids? |
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| 19:25.36 | x86jimmy | orangey: self destructing? |
| 19:25.37 | insta | Anybody have experience with pptpd in Etch? |
| 19:25.54 | ke6isf | orangey: Let's put it this way. I admin an anime image archive that pretty much went kablooey about a year or so ago because of a software raid glitch. Fortunately, I have backups.... |
| 19:26.04 | Alzabar | its snd-ca0106 driver |
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| 19:26.10 | alan | Erm, one more question - how do i get grub to update its damn device map? |
| 19:26.10 | orangey | x86jimmy, ke6isf said he has "seen software raids self destruct" |
| 19:26.10 | ke6isf | orangey: But, the machine owner also lost his mp3s that were stored on the raid. Owes to the same glitch. |
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| 19:26.28 | orangey | ke6isf, how rampant are these glitches? |
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| 19:26.29 | Alzabar | now how do I get that |
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| 19:26.33 | ke6isf | orangey: Don't know. |
| 19:26.37 | orangey | ke6isf, but having off-site backup seems reasonable.. |
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| 19:26.48 | orangey | ke6isf, I just want to minimize risk.. I know it'll always be there. |
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| 19:26.59 | ke6isf | orangey: Strike 'reasonable', and replace it with 'mandatory'. Wise idea, though. |
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| 19:27.17 | orangey | ke6isf, : ) |
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| 19:27.35 | insta | Anyone? :( |
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| 19:27.46 | Alzabar | its snd-ca0106 driver how do I get this driver |
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| 19:28.00 | ke6isf | !anyone insta |
| 19:28.04 | ke6isf | hrmm.. |
| 19:28.06 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 19:28.06 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 19:28.22 | dvs | Alzabar: You could try "modprobe snd-ca0106" but I dont think it's part of the kernel |
| 19:28.24 | fbi | Alzabar: the new kernel you booted _should_ already have it |
| 19:28.28 | fbi | i have to go eat |
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| 19:28.36 | Alzabar | ok |
| 19:28.45 | insta | *shrug* okay. |
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| 19:29.08 | Alzabar | says its not found |
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| 19:29.19 | Alzabar | crap |
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| 19:29.33 | insta | I'm using pptpd on a Debian Etch box. I'm trying to connect a windows XP Pro machine to it (as a VPN). The XP box gets to the point of logging in, succeeds that, and then dies shortly thereafter with no useful information (that I can discern) in its error message or the logs. |
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| 19:30.02 | bucky | insta, afaik you need kernel-patch-mppe for M$ RAS |
| 19:30.11 | insta | bucky: I've got it :) |
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| 19:30.25 | emcebob | Witam. Jestem swiezym uzytkownikiem Debiana i bardzo bym prosil o jakas strone z przewodnikiem dla kogos takiego jak ja. Mialem juz niewielki kontakt z Mandrakiem, ale Debiana nie czaje wcale |
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| 19:30.34 | abrotman | !pl |
| 19:30.34 | dpkg | i guess pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
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| 19:30.40 | bucky | insta, the poptop page has a lot of good docs.. i've done it but it's been a long time ago |
| 19:30.50 | ke6isf | emcebob: /join #debian-pl |
| 19:31.02 | abrotman | .pl ? |
| 19:31.07 | emcebob | thx |
| 19:31.08 | ke6isf | abrotman: poland. |
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| 19:31.18 | abrotman | ke6isf: see what you said . and what dpkg said |
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| 19:31.57 | ke6isf | abrotman: Indeed. |
| 19:32.00 | g0rd0n | what should i write in console to send a test mail to the 'root' user? |
| 19:32.20 | ke6isf | sackafrackin.... =O.o= |
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| 19:32.31 | abrotman | echo "crap" | mail root |
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| 19:32.42 | Alzabar | so what do I do now the sound driver is not there |
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| 19:34.11 | Alzabar | and now I am alone |
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| 19:34.21 | djp | a big fat thank you to all those here who have helped me install debian 3.1 on my system. i know irc etiquette doesn't really like this type of message, but i really do appreciate the great help that is given here. thanks one and all. |
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| 19:35.28 | tarzeau | Alzabar: does it not exist? or why is it not there? |
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| 19:35.43 | dvs | tarzeau: Sound Blaster Live 24-bit |
| 19:35.49 | tarzeau | djp: i can't think of any irc rule that's make you not liked when being thankful |
| 19:35.50 | dvs | tarzeau: too new |
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| 19:36.01 | tarzeau | djp: besides irc is local to servers/channels, no rule covers them all |
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| 19:36.28 | Alzabar | its not there |
| 19:36.37 | djp | tarzeau, that's ok then :) |
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| 19:38.12 | whitehorse1 | I'm having trouble altering permissions on a partition/folder (/dev/hda6 - mounted under /windows). I've tried using Konqueror via gksu and changing user/group access to read+write instead of just read, the owner is root. But it refuses to set chroot permissions. Why? :-( The /windows mounted drive is just a scratch disk to say save webpages/files to, so I can reboot into Windows and share files between XP and DebianEtch |
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| 19:38.45 | abrotman | whitehorse1: vfat ? |
| 19:38.50 | ivan` | is this non-us line broken? apt-get does return some 404 errors |
| 19:38.54 | ivan` | deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free |
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| 19:38.58 | abrotman | ivan`: /topic |
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| 19:39.03 | ivan` | ah |
| 19:39.06 | whitehorse1 | permissions apparently are rwxr-xr-x. owner and group are root. || abrotman: Yes it's vfat :) |
| 19:39.14 | abrotman | !vfatrw |
| 19:39.14 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS. |
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| 19:39.34 | whitehorse1 | ooh thank you abrotman |
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| 19:40.18 | ivan` | so, just one line needed for unstable? |
| 19:40.20 | whitehorse1 | Err I assume the Debian Installer that set it up would've mounted it using fstab - yes? |
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| 19:40.27 | tarzeau | "girl, you'll be a woman soon" *sing* |
| 19:40.42 | whitehorse1 | ivan I don't believe non-us is needed anymore :) |
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| 19:40.49 | ivan` | ok thanks |
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| 19:41.01 | tarzeau | ivan`: two! if you want sources |
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| 19:41.12 | ivan` | no sources right now |
| 19:41.17 | whitehorse1 | [re non-us] I'm using testing but same applies to Sarge so I assume unstable as well |
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| 19:41.26 | tarzeau | ivan`: with sources it feels so much more like gentoo |
| 19:41.34 | tarzeau | ivan`: very l337 |
| 19:41.35 | ivan` | heh |
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| 19:41.50 | Alzabar | how do I do this? |
| 19:42.10 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar Erm...? how do you do what? |
| 19:42.21 | EdgEy | you can write to ntfs? |
| 19:42.25 | tarzeau | EdgEy: sure |
| 19:42.36 | tarzeau | EdgEy: last time i did, it wasn't usable anymore :) (so glad it wasn't mine) |
| 19:42.44 | EdgEy | without fucking everything up royally ;) |
| 19:42.46 | ivan` | you can use the ntfs dlls from windows to write |
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| 19:42.51 | ivan` | through some wine-type thing |
| 19:42.53 | ivan` | it works rather well |
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| 19:43.13 | whitehorse1 | Edgey But be careful - Debian has a package w/utility to fix it before you reboot; if you've written to it. There's a better way... |
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| 19:43.27 | EdgEy | i'm not gonna bother, just thought wtf |
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| 19:44.14 | whitehorse1 | EdgEy: Easier to create a vfat partition on existing drive and mount it under debian. additionally, under say winxp/98 install the gpl'd ext2fs device driver togive readonly access to your ext3 partition in windows |
| 19:44.14 | welson | make gconfig asks me 'You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0' , i've tried apt-cache searching and installing the appropriate packages but can someone tell me what the package is for glib-2.0 ? |
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| 19:45.35 | resiak | welson: libgtk2.0-dev , libglib2.0-dev. apt-cache search --names-only glib |
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| 19:45.46 | madclicker | how do i purge a package? |
| 19:45.58 | dvs | madclicker: dpkg -P <package-name> |
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| 19:46.27 | madclicker | dvs, thks, is it the same as apt-get remove ? |
| 19:46.30 | Alzabar | can someone help me with my sound |
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| 19:46.55 | dvs | madclicker: Yes, but it gets rid of the config files as well |
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| 19:47.40 | lunaphyte | why would a disk have to be manually re-added to a RAID1 raidset after a single disk boot? |
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| 19:47.50 | madclicker | dvs, roger. Would there be a mighty command the would compare to dpkg -P but with apt-get ? |
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| 19:48.08 | dvs | madclicker: apt-get --purge remove <package-name> |
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| 19:48.43 | resiak | madclicker: Yes. It's called man apt-get ;) |
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| 19:49.15 | khermans_ | Can someone here tlel me how to change the default shell I am being dropped into via SSH? I want BASH but I am getting KSH |
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| 19:49.36 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: It can be quite an involved thing, trying to get sound working properly. It might be more effective asking via a mailing list such as debian-user, also at the newsgroup linux.debian.user. Just my $0.02. I don't know how to troubleshoot it myself @ my experience level so can't help directly unfortunately |
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| 19:49.53 | Alzabar | well back to windows |
| 19:49.56 | whitehorse1 | er I mean that mailing list is also automatically acessible via that |
| 19:50.06 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: Giving up so soon? :) |
| 19:50.06 | mwilson | khermans_: You are getting whatever your /etc/passwd entry defines as your shell, same as if you logged in locally. |
| 19:50.13 | madclicker | dvs: bahhh, and i keep on trying "apt-get --purge" amd wondering whats going on, it keeps complaining. |
| 19:50.14 | snow | Hello, I have a problem here, my box was counting uptime to 498 and suddenly the uptime got to 0, the proccess are up, the eggdrops shows that it is up for 498 and the root is idliing in the pty for 30 days, but 'w' 'uptime' says it's 2 days ;)) |
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| 19:50.28 | Alzabar | its been 3 months I been playing around with linux |
| 19:50.28 | khermans_ | mwilson, and i cant change that entry in the passwd file? |
| 19:50.29 | dvs | madclicker: apt-get --purge remove |
| 19:50.31 | mwilson | snow: Correct. |
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| 19:50.42 | snow | mwilson so, what should I do, what is this problem? |
| 19:50.43 | resiak | snow: The uptime counter wraps around. |
| 19:50.45 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: Just saying I didn't know since I'm quite new to linux, maybe someone else will be able to help. |
| 19:50.49 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: Sarge or Etch? |
| 19:50.50 | Gathond | snow: not a problem, a know issue, the counter overflowed at that time in older kernels |
| 19:50.52 | resiak | snow: Patch the kernel, if you really care. |
| 19:50.56 | Alzabar | Sarge |
| 19:51.03 | snow | and when you patch the kernel |
| 19:51.08 | snow | you have to reboot the box , yeah? |
| 19:51.09 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: And did you send in an installation-report, out of interest? |
| 19:51.09 | welson | resiak, not sure why, I do have those -dev packages, make gconfig still fails :( |
| 19:51.11 | madclicker | dvs: sweet, thx |
| 19:51.13 | Gathond | snow: yes |
| 19:51.16 | mwilson | khermans_: You can run whatever shell you like. |
| 19:51.19 | empty | When I try to use start-stop-daemon in an init.d script to manage a pid file for something that does not make one I seem to be getting a pid one less than the pid of the server- anyone seen this before? |
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| 19:51.27 | khermans_ | mwilson, no i mean change the degfault shell |
| 19:51.28 | Alzabar | no |
| 19:51.33 | snow | ant nothin' to do now yeah? |
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| 19:51.41 | mwilson | khermans_: As I said, you can run whatever shell you like. |
| 19:51.42 | khermans_ | mwilson, can i edit that passwd entry shomehow? |
| 19:51.44 | welson | khermans_, skel |
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| 19:51.59 | caphuso | khermans_: chsh |
| 19:52.03 | Gathond | snow: correct, a kernel that old has enough security holes for that to warrant an update anyway though |
| 19:52.09 | resiak | welson: What packages does it need, and why not use menuconfig instead anyway? |
| 19:52.12 | snow | and the uptime wraps around everytime at 498 ? |
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| 19:52.27 | Gathond | snow: at 498days and something yes |
| 19:52.33 | Alzabar | why do they make it so complicated |
| 19:52.41 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: probably would've been worth it; in my opinion it isn't made easy for users though. :) Here's a link with details of the mailing list via google; many users are there helping others it's very good http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/about |
| 19:52.46 | snow | but then I will loose the 500 days uptime if i'll patch the kernel :) |
| 19:52.51 | snow | and the box is out from the worldwide |
| 19:52.52 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: What, the installation-report? |
| 19:52.53 | dvs | Alzabar: blame the hardware manufacturers who won't make drivers for Linux |
| 19:52.54 | welson | resiak, because I know, menuconfig, I'm curious why it's not working-- menuconfig is no problem.. it still asks the same lables, doesn't mention packanames explicitly.. |
| 19:53.11 | snow | so nothin' to be done to 'uptime' command toshow the real uptime in this kind'a of thing without rebooting? |
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| 19:53.22 | resiak | welson: What were the three? |
| 19:53.23 | empty | Alzabar, with great power comes great complexity ;) |
| 19:53.23 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: yep dvs is kinda right. all about money & a vicious circle of market share |
| 19:53.36 | mwilson | snow: What did you not understand about "the counter wraps around"? |
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| 19:53.39 | whitehorse1 | er ok maybe like empty says it's about zen too ;) |
| 19:53.42 | welson | resiak: * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that |
| 19:53.42 | welson | * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... |
| 19:53.42 | welson | * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0 |
| 19:53.54 | Alzabar | I dont want power I just want a simple desktop that plays music and video |
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| 19:54.00 | Billionaire | Is there a mirror with debian package xcompmgr and transset? |
| 19:54.10 | mwilson | Billionaire: No. |
| 19:54.16 | Billionaire | mwilson, tnx |
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| 19:54.32 | resiak | welson: And you have installed libglade2-dev, libgtk2.0-dev and libglib2.0-dev ? |
| 19:54.40 | welson | resiak, y |
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| 19:54.46 | empty | Alzabar, try a distro geared for that then like Ubuntu or something- debian is more generalist for people that like have the flexibility |
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| 19:54.51 | welson | resiak, not sure what else to install |
| 19:54.58 | resiak | welson: Oh. WORKSFORME(TM). |
| 19:55.04 | Alzabar | Ubuntu dont see my network |
| 19:55.11 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: Kubuntu is an alternative distro you might be interested in. video works fine on my new debian setup; though still working on getting sound sorted |
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| 19:55.29 | empty | Alzabar, don't get me wrong it is every bit as capable as such a distro, just takes more tweaking whereas those distros are geared to work "out of the box" |
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| 19:55.43 | Alzabar | well its either sound or video |
| 19:55.49 | Alzabar | I never get both working |
| 19:55.57 | EdgEy | what does the uptime wrap over at in newer kernels then ? :) |
| 19:56.02 | whitehorse1 | Would alzabar be better off using etch, or sarge? |
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| 19:56.18 | dvs | EdgEy: It's not the kernel, it's the 32-bit architecture |
| 19:56.19 | resiak | EdgEy: 49.7 days, according to netcraft's faq. |
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| 19:56.23 | Alzabar | I been though all the mainstream distros either sound dont work or video |
| 19:56.30 | EdgEy | um |
| 19:56.40 | nkuttler | Alzabar: so why don't you fix it... |
| 19:56.47 | EdgEy | c[20:50:50] <Gathond> snow: not a problem, a know issue, the counter overflowed at that time in older kernels |
| 19:56.52 | welson | resiak, ok, libglade2-- ok-- it's doing that last one I oversighted.. i've tried asmiliar one..trying it now.. |
| 19:56.56 | EdgEy | so they decreased it from 498 to 49? . |
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| 19:56.59 | EdgEy | ... |
| 19:57.08 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: you have video working now? |
| 19:57.10 | Gathond | EdgEy: ? |
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| 19:57.12 | welson | resiak, ok good, thanks :) |
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| 19:57.21 | resiak | welson: And, bizarrely, when you actually install the packages it asks for, it works? |
| 19:57.24 | Alzabar | no neither work on this distro |
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| 19:57.38 | Gathond | EdgEy: ahhh, something larger:) |
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| 19:57.44 | EdgEy | lol |
| 19:57.52 | Alzabar | Ubuntu hoary I had video working but alsa wasnt working |
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| 19:57.59 | thefillm | hi all |
| 19:58.01 | Alzabar | breezy it was the other way around |
| 19:58.03 | Gathond | EdgEy: I think the went from a 32 bit int to a 64 bit int ... so we are talking something seriously larger:) |
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| 19:58.07 | deadcat | whats the fastest way to check a file's line 3 field 3? every second. |
| 19:58.14 | nkuttler | Alzabar: are you running debian now? |
| 19:58.18 | Alzabar | yes |
| 19:58.20 | thefillm | can anyone help me with mkinitrd? |
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| 19:58.34 | welson | resiak, no, i'm not using anything like auto-apt.. |
| 19:58.35 | nkuttler | Alzabar: /msg dpkg faq and try to fix video/audio |
| 19:58.39 | Ajeet | Hello, if I leave 20GB on my hardrive unallocated, will the Debian installer detect it, so I don't have to go through the partitioning? |
| 19:58.44 | ke6isf | deadcat: What file, and what exactly are you looking for? |
| 19:58.48 | tarzeau | thefillm: nobody can read the details from your mind |
| 19:58.59 | dvs | Ajeet: It will detect it but it will also partition it |
| 19:59.01 | thefillm | :) |
| 19:59.03 | thefillm | sorry |
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| 19:59.07 | tarzeau | deadcat: awk |
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| 19:59.25 | Ajeet | dvs: What do you mean? It partitions it further? |
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| 19:59.35 | whitehorse1 | Alzabar: well i'm sure it'll work fine on your machine, (hmm is hoary or warty the newer of the two?) anyway, I grant you it mightn't be a single line we can give you to enter into a terminal in sarge. But, once you fix it - it's done! :) the mailing-list where you can give system info which is less easy here, might be useful. up to you tho. and that dpkg faq is a good idea too |
| 19:59.39 | dvs | Ajeet: The drive must be partitioned in order to use it |
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| 19:59.49 | deadcat | ke6isf: /proc/net/wireless, the link sygnal field(3). |
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| 19:59.57 | tarzeau | deadcat: watch -n1 "awk '{if (NR==3) print $3}' thefile" |
| 19:59.58 | thefillm | i recompiled the 2.6.1 kernel with a systrace patch and now i need to create initrd image but unsuccesfully |
| 20:00.02 | Ajeet | dvs: Ah, you mean like swap and all that? |
| 20:00.21 | dvs | Ajeet: Anything. It depends what you want to put on it. |
| 20:00.24 | deadcat | tarzeau: faster than say perl or php or python? i also need to $var * 100 / 92 |
| 20:00.24 | resiak | welson: At what point did I suggest that you were? |
| 20:00.37 | Ajeet | dvs: Sah-weet! |
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| 20:01.04 | tarzeau | deadcat: they also just fopen() the file and read from it |
| 20:01.12 | welson | resiak, no, it's fine-- :) libglade2-dev was the package, but packagenames are not given /* */ |
| 20:01.14 | Ajeet | Can't wait until my laptop comes, gonna be cool trying Debian for the 1st time!!! |
| 20:01.31 | resiak | welson: apt-cache search --names-only is your friend. |
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| 20:01.41 | kamaraju | Hi, I am unable to play any songs on http://www.telugufm.com/modules/music/MovieDetail.aspx?MID=10046 (It is a telugu music website) using mozilla-firefox (1.0.6) . But the site works perfectly fine in mozilla-firefox windows. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong in debian? |
| 20:01.45 | thefillm | btw its my first kernel compilation |
| 20:01.50 | deadcat | tarzeau: ya. i am using file_get_contents() right now |
| 20:01.51 | resiak | welson: (oh, and the fact that dev libraries in debian are libfooX.Y-dev) |
| 20:02.04 | tarzeau | deadcat: i don't have that function |
| 20:02.10 | deadcat | tarzeau: php |
| 20:02.14 | tarzeau | deadcat: but i'd guess PHP is the slowest of them all |
| 20:02.18 | ke6isf | kamaraju: Sounds like a plugins issue. My suggestion would be to copy the stream URL into your favorite player. What format is the stream? |
| 20:02.20 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: er do you have sound working in debian period? |
| 20:02.21 | welson | resiak, well there are always 1+ ways.. i'm not a total newbie-- it's been several months since i've done this-- just forget they were -dev files and not runtime |
| 20:02.21 | deadcat | DOH |
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| 20:02.38 | tdk650m | how do i check for the current shell I am in UNIX |
| 20:02.40 | resiak | welson: Sure, and I'm helping you out :) |
| 20:02.43 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: sound is working fine. Only the above website |
| 20:02.51 | deadcat | tarzeau: ok. i;ll do it with bash then. |
| 20:02.52 | welson | resiak, you've tried autoapt ? |
| 20:02.59 | resiak | welson: I don't really see the point of it. |
| 20:03.01 | ke6isf | tdk650m: chsh |
| 20:03.03 | tarzeau | deadcat: why not awk? |
| 20:03.13 | welson | resiak, that supposedly supposed to install packages as you need them.. too scared to test it |
| 20:03.23 | kamaraju | ke6isf: the link is a javascript. So there is no actual URL. |
| 20:03.29 | tarzeau | deadcat: bash is 600k, perl 1000k and awk only 300k |
| 20:03.30 | ke6isf | kamaraju: crud. |
| 20:03.43 | ke6isf | !autoapt |
| 20:03.46 | tarzeau | tdk650m: echo $SHELL ? |
| 20:03.48 | deadcat | tarzeau: got ya. |
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| 20:04.14 | welson | ke6isf, actually its auto-apt |
| 20:04.14 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: I checked the site, do you have realplayer installed? or an alternative suitable application? |
| 20:04.17 | welson | !auto-apt |
| 20:04.17 | dpkg | somebody said auto-apt was very cute. Run a shell under auto-apt and start doing something. If you access a missing file, and auto-apt can install a package that would provide that file, it does. http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/admin/auto-apt.html |
| 20:04.34 | Alzabar | well the dpkg faq dont help me |
| 20:04.39 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: realplayer and mplayer etc work fine on my computer. I installed them through marillat's website. |
| 20:04.40 | ke6isf | !info auto-apt sarge |
| 20:04.42 | nkuttler | Alzabar: then ask here |
| 20:04.43 | welson | has anyone ever used auto-apt? just curious... i'm just afraid it would auto-nuke :) |
| 20:04.45 | dpkg | auto-apt: (package search by file and on-demand package installation tool), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.3.20 (sarge), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
| 20:04.51 | deadcat | tarzeau: i am gonna use awk to run that command every second for screen, will that be crazy? |
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| 20:04.57 | ke6isf | Yep, it's in sarge. Seems like a bit of a hole though. |
| 20:04.59 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: ah right; I'd been going to suggest that site :) |
| 20:05.00 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: Does it play for you? |
| 20:05.03 | Alzabar | I just did |
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| 20:05.15 | tarzeau | deadcat: no that's fine |
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| 20:05.18 | MrRei | Good evening. :) |
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| 20:05.25 | nkuttler | Alzabar: did you already say what graphics card you have? |
| 20:05.26 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: it starts playing; but I don't have sound working @ the mo on mine so can't tell soz |
| 20:05.30 | tarzeau | deadcat: i've done much funnier things a few more times a second ;) |
| 20:05.36 | Alzabar | no I want sound to work first |
| 20:05.41 | deadcat | tarzeau: love you (= |
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| 20:05.49 | tarzeau | deadcat: until you don't get the load higher than 1 (per cpu) that's fine |
| 20:06.01 | tarzeau | deadcat: a/s/l? |
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| 20:06.16 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: For me there is a pop window and it keeps saying loading ... and it stops there. |
| 20:06.24 | deadcat | tarzeau: a/s/l? |
| 20:06.25 | Alzabar | xtasy 9200se ati radeon |
| 20:06.29 | tarzeau | !ASL |
| 20:06.30 | dpkg | tarzeau, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
| 20:06.39 | tarzeau | deadcat: really means age, sex, location |
| 20:06.52 | nkuttler | Alzabar: /msg dpkg set up x, try the ati driver, if it's not supported use vesa |
| 20:06.53 | tarzeau | deadcat: there's some criteria you need to fulfill before you can love me |
| 20:06.55 | deadcat | tarzeau: oh. i dont get it. |
| 20:07.02 | deadcat | ohhhhhhhhh (= |
| 20:07.29 | ke6isf | And then deadcat was enlightened. |
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| 20:07.34 | deadcat | tarzeau: let you know when i go for a sex change i suppose (= |
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| 20:07.50 | whitehorse1 | abrotman: When changing the settings (to get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab) in /etc/fstab, will anything I insert just get overwritten on reboot by fstab-sync+hal ? |
| 20:08.22 | thefillm | uz-2.2.14-5.0 |
| 20:08.22 | thefillm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:08.30 | c_olin | what is the best VPN client/server fo linux? |
| 20:08.39 | tarzeau | !best |
| 20:08.40 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
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| 20:09.03 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: try checking you allow firefox to open the opo up window & it isn't blocked; also check javascript is enabled in yr browser |
| 20:09.05 | c_olin | most features? |
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| 20:09.12 | abrotman | whitehorse1: i don't use hal to do that stuff .. dunno |
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| 20:09.22 | c_olin | then what is a _good_ vpon client/server for linux |
| 20:09.27 | c_olin | vpn* |
| 20:09.29 | jelly | c_olin: what features should a VPN client have anyway? |
| 20:09.31 | thefillm | I recompiled the 2.6.1 kernel with a systrace patch and now i need to create initrd image with mkinitrd. Whats the best way to do that on debian? Anyone? |
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| 20:09.38 | c_olin | works with e17? |
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| 20:09.53 | whitehorse1 | abrotman: I don't know if I do either (I know my system uses hal, just dunno about whether it adjsts fstab) still, I guess the easiest thing is to try it and see |
| 20:09.59 | tarzeau | jelly: i'd prefer one "WORK!" button, and maybe "FIGURE OUT ALL SETTINGS YOURSELF"-button |
| 20:10.00 | Gnea | thefillm: 2.6.1? |
| 20:10.08 | thefillm | Gnea: yeah |
| 20:10.17 | Gnea | thefillm: sorry, that's too old, can't help ya |
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| 20:10.30 | thefillm | :( |
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| 20:10.32 | tarzeau | jelly: nothing really |
| 20:10.40 | Gnea | come on! 2.6.12 is the latest |
| 20:11.06 | thefillm | Gnea: I know but the patch I need is only available for 2.6.1 |
| 20:11.07 | nkuttler | Gnea: The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.13.2 |
| 20:11.09 | Gnea | thefillm: well, there's an initrd howto... |
| 20:11.20 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: The javascript was already enabled and I checked in the pop up window blocker and this site is not blocked. |
| 20:11.29 | jelly | Although a button might be nicer than an alias for "sudo vpnclient connect provider". |
| 20:11.30 | Gnea | nkuttler: yeah but it's not really as supportive as 2.16.11 or .12 |
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| 20:11.40 | streuner__ | nkuttler: he surely means official kernels |
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| 20:11.58 | Gnea | !tell thefillm about initrd |
| 20:12.04 | nkuttler | that could be. i'm mostly happy with 2.4 |
| 20:12.05 | tarzeau | streuner__: you mean debian built stoneage kernels? |
| 20:12.11 | allan__ | hi |
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| 20:12.13 | thefillm | Gnea: I have seen it but it is quite complex for me at this moment. Been using Linux for a week only |
| 20:12.16 | streuner__ | tarzeau: haha |
| 20:12.16 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: ok lemme try it now and see what I get (altho sound isn't active so I won't go so far as to hear audio) |
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| 20:12.40 | allan__ | i'm brazilian and my english is very bad, can i help me please? |
| 20:12.46 | tarzeau | !br |
| 20:12.47 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 20:12.58 | tarzeau | allan__: feel free to help yourself, nobody's gonna stop you |
| 20:13.00 | jelly | c_olin: I don't know about any "good" vpn clients. I know of one or two that work, though. |
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| 20:13.01 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: ok right. it says loading for me for a while; then i just pressed the play button visible and now it says playing |
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| 20:13.21 | allan__ | I have a server that he does not have I modulate for kernel. I insert it in floppy and I load it manual, you give goes. As to modify the System-Map, it does not have mkinitrd |
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| 20:13.39 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: That means it is working for you. Which firefox are you using? version? |
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| 20:14.04 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: Firefox 1.0.6 |
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| 20:14.34 | tarzeau | oh these join spammers suck |
| 20:14.36 | thefillm | ok, thanx everyone, i'll keep on searching and trying :) |
| 20:14.50 | allan__ | please |
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| 20:14.54 | snd | I installed debian sarge, which comes with firefox 1.04, I would like to be able to use 1.06 or 1.07 how can I do this? |
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| 20:15.04 | nkuttler | allan__: i don't think anybody understood what you mean |
| 20:15.06 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: I am also using firefox 1.0.6 . I tried mozilla-firefox -safe-mode just to be sure that my extensions are not doing any creepy things. The site does not work even with the -safe-mode option. |
| 20:15.07 | tarzeau | snd: haha |
| 20:15.13 | snd | ? |
| 20:15.20 | tarzeau | snd: wait wait , now it gets funny |
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| 20:15.31 | snd | whats funny |
| 20:15.32 | tarzeau | snd: you already *have* 1.0.6 but debian calls it 1.0.4 |
| 20:15.33 | resiak | allan__: What is your native language? |
| 20:15.34 | madclicker | is there a way to "enable numlock" for X sessions? |
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| 20:15.41 | resiak | madclicker: Press it? |
| 20:15.44 | tarzeau | snd: because you only *think* you have 1.0.4 |
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| 20:15.48 | snd | wtf? |
| 20:15.50 | deadcat | tarzeau: can awk test to make sure if /proc/apm exist? |
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| 20:15.55 | tarzeau | snd: yeah, welcome to the shit :) |
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| 20:16.05 | madclicker | resiak, eheehh... how about auto-on? |
| 20:16.05 | jelly | Bless them Security Teams that couldn't have called it 1.0.6-0sarge1 or something. |
| 20:16.06 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: hmm don't know what to suggest. I can tell you that at my experience level I haven't done anything specialto Firefox in Linux nor perhaps would I be able to ;) |
| 20:16.09 | Gnea | thefillm: yeah, systrace looks like a dead project |
| 20:16.11 | allan__ | I have a server that he does not have I modulate for kernel. I insert it in floppy and I load it manual, you give goes. As to modify the System-Map, it does not have mkinitrd |
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| 20:16.24 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: How did you install java? |
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| 20:16.32 | thefillm | Gnea: yeah shame |
| 20:16.43 | nkuttler | allan__: try #debian-br |
| 20:16.48 | tarzeau | allan__: what driver do you need? |
| 20:16.49 | takatumi | thefillm: use the --initrd option with make-kpkg (install kernel-package if you are not using it, read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz) |
| 20:16.50 | snd | I don't though, because i have gaim installed which is 1.2.x... latest version of gaim is 1.5... it doesn't have the same features as 1.5 so how are they the same? |
| 20:17.01 | nkuttler | snd: they are not |
| 20:17.06 | tarzeau | snd: hehe :) |
| 20:17.07 | resiak | madclicker: not a clue :) |
| 20:17.08 | nkuttler | snd: firefox is an exception |
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| 20:17.23 | snd | ok, so how would I go about getting the latest version of gaim on sarge? |
| 20:17.28 | tarzeau | snd: now it gets fun, if every user starts asking himself debian says it's version 1.2 , but is it 1.5 maybe? |
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| 20:17.35 | tarzeau | snd: haha cracks me so up ;) |
| 20:17.38 | thefillm | takatumi: thx, i'll give it a try |
| 20:17.39 | nkuttler | snd: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 20:17.50 | leleobhz | some one have problems installing pine on sarge? |
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| 20:17.57 | streuner__ | snd: or just /msg dpkg backports |
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| 20:18.02 | nkuttler | snd: any reasons why you need the latest version of anything? |
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| 20:18.04 | tarzeau | has debian fixed mount yet? |
| 20:18.09 | tarzeau | (umount, i mean) |
| 20:18.10 | resiak | tarzeau: "fixed" it? |
| 20:18.21 | tarzeau | resiak: it's gotten a security bug last week or longer before |
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| 20:18.26 | resiak | tarzeau: Oh. Probably not :) |
| 20:18.28 | tarzeau | resiak: local root |
| 20:18.29 | snd | bug fixes and features |
| 20:18.29 | scarynetworkguy | !fix resiak. |
| 20:18.30 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: I installed it via the repository; sun JRE. took two mins if that :) want the apt line? |
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| 20:18.49 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: yes please |
| 20:18.49 | tarzeau | leleobhz: which version of pine? |
| 20:18.56 | jelly | tarzeau: umm... is that in util-linux? |
| 20:19.03 | resiak | leleobhz: Use mutt instead? |
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| 20:19.09 | resiak | leleobhz: And define "problems". |
| 20:19.12 | tarzeau | jelly: no, in mount |
| 20:19.14 | leleobhz | i dont like mutt |
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| 20:19.18 | ke6isf | leleobhz: What kind of problems are you having? |
| 20:19.22 | tarzeau | leleobhz: same here. tried nail? |
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| 20:19.23 | leleobhz | apt-get install pine |
| 20:19.26 | tarzeau | jelly: why? |
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| 20:19.38 | tarzeau | leleobhz: but who built the package? |
| 20:19.39 | leleobhz | (py apt is in portuguese_ |
| 20:19.40 | resiak | !tell leleobhz -about non-free |
| 20:19.41 | ke6isf | leleobhz: Oh, OK. Pine is not in the debian archives. |
| 20:19.49 | resiak | Oh, sorry, I thought Pine was in non-free. |
| 20:19.54 | jelly | tarzeau: I remember seeing some fixes for util-linux for other distros |
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| 20:19.55 | jelly | ... |
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| 20:20.04 | streuner__ | !pine |
| 20:20.04 | dpkg | pine: a non-DFSG-free (read: evil!) POP3, IMAP, and USENET reader; modified binaries are illegal to distribute. Alternatives include elm, mutt, spruce, sylpheed, balsa, and many other FREE readers. binaries are not included in Debian because of licensing problems. To get pine debs: apt-get -b source pine (or pine4) or if you just want pico, ask about "nano", or there MAY be additional help in #pine |
| 20:20.07 | jelly | it IS util-linux source, though. |
| 20:20.12 | tarzeau | jelly: maybe they have it in there (hmm) |
| 20:20.20 | ke6isf | tarzeau: There's an easier way. GIYF. |
| 20:20.21 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free |
| 20:20.27 | tarzeau | jelly: well you can build several binary packages from one source package |
| 20:20.28 | leleobhz | but the source non free are here |
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| 20:20.31 | ke6isf | leleobhz: Lemme locate the archive, hang on. |
| 20:20.34 | tarzeau | !GIYF |
| 20:20.34 | dpkg | Google Is Your Friend, or see also: STFW, and see http://fuckinggoogleit.com/ |
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| 20:20.44 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: no need to alter the sarge part; even if on etch, in this case. there's only one afaik |
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| 20:20.54 | jelly | Shut the Fine Web? |
| 20:21.00 | tarzeau | ke6isf: did i ask something? |
| 20:21.00 | resiak | Just use mutt, as nature intended.... |
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| 20:21.10 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: Which one are you using? Sid/Etch/Sarge? |
| 20:21.24 | ke6isf | leleobhz: http://src.braincells.com/debian/woody/pine/ and follow directions. |
| 20:21.25 | allan__ | who insert modulos, or genereta new System.map if new modulo |
| 20:21.26 | allan__ | ? |
| 20:21.31 | leleobhz | ok! |
| 20:21.33 | jelly | mutt is harder for the beginner. |
| 20:21.35 | tarzeau | allan__: you don't need System.map |
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| 20:21.41 | whitehorse1 | what's the difference between read & write where rwxrwxr-x and rwxr-xr-x ? |
| 20:21.48 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: Etch |
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| 20:22.00 | tarzeau | whitehorse1: group can write on first, but not on second? |
| 20:22.02 | allan__ | i need, because need load new module in boot |
| 20:22.06 | ke6isf | whitehorse1: The second set is group. |
| 20:22.12 | joeljkp | i'm having some trouble understanding how uw-imapd works |
| 20:22.16 | tarzeau | allan__: nah you don't need it. what module are you missing? |
| 20:22.19 | joeljkp | anyone have any experience? |
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| 20:22.27 | joeljkp | ke6isf: ah, you're here |
| 20:22.31 | streuner__ | whitehorse1: so group-members aren't allowed to write |
| 20:22.39 | kamaraju | whitehorse1: Thanks a lot for your time. I will try your apt line and see if it works. |
| 20:22.41 | ke6isf | joeljkp: Yep. Near as I can tell, though, it Just Works for me. |
| 20:22.52 | jelly | leleobhz: pine installed worked fine last I tried it. That was on sarge, I think. |
| 20:22.58 | jelly | s/installed/installer/ |
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| 20:23.05 | joeljkp | ke6isf: ok, so mail gets put into a file called /var/mail/<username> |
| 20:23.20 | leleobhz | well |
| 20:23.31 | nkuttler | joeljkp: what is wrong with that? |
| 20:23.31 | whitehorse1 | kamaraju: :) |
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| 20:23.43 | leleobhz | so, i have used pine a lot and i cant use mutt, what is recomendated |
| 20:23.44 | joeljkp | ke6isf: i'm confused about what uw-imapd does with it, and where its imap folders are stored |
| 20:23.45 | leleobhz | ? |
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| 20:23.59 | jelly | joeljkp: INBOX is in /var/mail/<username>. other folders are in users' homes. |
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| 20:24.15 | whitehorse1 | streuner__: the uid and group id for my loginname are both 1000 - does that mean it doesn't make a difference which of the two I choose then? |
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| 20:24.19 | joeljkp | jelly: are these other folders managed by the imap clients? |
| 20:24.19 | ke6isf | leleobhz: Use pine if it's familiar. I do. |
| 20:24.21 | resiak | leleobhz: Why can't you use mutt? mutt is awesome. |
| 20:24.32 | whitehorse1 | SquirrelMail? |
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| 20:24.35 | leleobhz | resiak, to hard access functions |
| 20:24.39 | jelly | joeljkp: they can be. |
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| 20:24.45 | whitehorse1 | Kmail? Thunderbird (ugh to that one)? |
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| 20:24.54 | leleobhz | whitehorse1, is console? |
| 20:24.59 | leleobhz | i need one for console |
| 20:25.00 | joeljkp | jelly: ok, i have squirrelmail set up, and i have it set to use ~/mail/* for its folders |
| 20:25.06 | jelly | joeljkp: if you're just installing a IMAP daemon, consider something else other than uw-imapd. |
| 20:25.13 | ke6isf | leleobhz: If you're console only, pine is great. Are you looking for graphical? |
| 20:25.17 | joeljkp | jelly: oh, why? |
| 20:25.20 | leleobhz | no |
| 20:25.27 | leleobhz | graphic i have on another machine |
| 20:25.33 | nkuttler | joeljkp: imap support has been remove from uw-imapd in sarge afaik |
| 20:25.36 | whitehorse1 | leleobhz: Ah, misunderstood. just have mutt on mine |
| 20:25.37 | leleobhz | but where i am i need text client |
| 20:25.40 | resiak | leleobhz: But it's got a really good manual and help! |
| 20:25.42 | jelly | joeljkp: It has a history of unwieldiness. |
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| 20:25.55 | joeljkp | jelly: hmm... any suggestions? |
| 20:25.56 | ke6isf | leleobhz: OK, then if it ain't broke, dont' fix it. Just add the lines that that URL says to your sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install pine. |
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| 20:26.09 | leleobhz | ok! |
| 20:26.11 | jelly | joeljkp: we're planning to switch our 200 installations to dovecot. |
| 20:26.40 | streuner__ | jelly: 200? where do you work? |
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| 20:27.03 | joeljkp | jelly: i'm just managing a single server for a small group; is dovecot simple to set up? |
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| 20:27.29 | jelly | streuner__: package management for the university network. |
| 20:27.35 | streuner | ic |
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| 20:28.11 | xeon__ | how can i reconfigure my grub |
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| 20:28.23 | jelly | joeljkp: I'm told it is, unfortunately I'm not directly involved with imap. |
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| 20:28.30 | nkuttler | xeon__: vi /boot/grub/menu.list? |
| 20:28.41 | nkuttler | xeon__: vi /boot/grub/menu.lst even |
| 20:28.42 | joeljkp | jelly: do you have experience with evolution? |
| 20:28.47 | xeon__ | thanks was wonderin where it was |
| 20:28.54 | nkuttler | xeon__: man locate |
| 20:28.56 | jelly | joeljkp: I do keep our SquirrelMail config in one piece though. |
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| 20:29.16 | jelly | joeljkp: nope. Using mutt. |
| 20:29.17 | wiler | i need to remove the exact string "(1994)" or rather files which contain that string in the name, this string is not consistantly placed in the file name either..been having problems making rm do this, ideas? |
| 20:29.38 | joeljkp | jelly: well, my problem is that uw-imapd defaults to ~ for its folder location |
| 20:29.47 | joeljkp | jelly: i have squirrelmail set to use ~/mail |
| 20:29.50 | jelly | joeljkp: two ways you can fix that. |
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| 20:29.59 | whitehorse1 | after altering /etc/fstab then do I need to reboot for the changes to take effect? |
| 20:30.00 | joeljkp | jelly: and now i want to use evolution on my own box, but i don't know how to set it up |
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| 20:30.17 | nkuttler | wiler: rm "*(1994)*"? |
| 20:30.18 | jelly | joeljkp: do you already have users using imap (that is ssquirrelmail)? |
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| 20:30.28 | felipe_ | whitehorse1, no |
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| 20:30.40 | joeljkp | jelly: i have it set up for multiple users, but i don't think any have used it yet |
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| 20:31.05 | jelly | joeljkp: if not, tell uw-imap itself to change the location. /etc/c-client.cf |
| 20:31.21 | joeljkp | jelly: i guess i'm confused at the interaction between the two |
| 20:31.29 | whitehorse1 | felipe hmm. then the changes to allow write access to the vfat partition by users that I made isn't working then :/ |
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| 20:31.34 | jelly | joeljkp: It's a nice mess. |
| 20:31.38 | joeljkp | jelly: what's the relationship between uw-imapd's folder location and squirrelmail's folder location? |
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| 20:32.30 | roods | i just tried to install debian from a minimal cd, but can't get the cd to bood on my desktop. what's strange is that my laptop has the debian splash screen. |
| 20:32.37 | xdr_ | anyone wanna help me? |
| 20:32.38 | xdr_ | when I run "chroot" i get "/bin/sh" no such file or directory ....what does that meen? |
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| 20:33.04 | wiler | nkuttler: this makes rm tell me that (1994) no such file or dir |
| 20:33.09 | caphuso | xdr_: that you don't have a /bin/sh in your chroot |
| 20:33.22 | joeljkp | jelly: i'm guessing that any imap clients will use the default uw-imapd folder location unless told otherwise, right? |
| 20:33.22 | roods | caphuso: any advise for me? |
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| 20:33.33 | jelly | joeljkp: squirrelmail can use a subset of existing IMAP folders. If this is a fresh install, you don't really want to do that, but you want to change what UW-imapd uses as folder location. |
| 20:33.36 | caphuso | roods: not without hell of a lot more information about what exactly you are doing |
| 20:33.40 | nkuttler | wiler: what is the exact error? |
| 20:33.42 | jelly | joeljkp: yes |
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| 20:33.53 | jelly | joeljkp: take a look at /usr/share/doc/libc-client2002edebian/FAQ.txt.gz |
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| 20:34.00 | roods | caphuso: i'm trying to install debian and can't get the cd to boot off my desktop |
| 20:34.04 | joeljkp | jelly: and if i want all my clients using the same folders, i either need to set it in c-client.cf, or set them all to use the same folder manually |
| 20:34.08 | joeljkp | jelly: k, i'll take a look |
| 20:34.09 | jelly | joeljkp: question 3.4 |
| 20:34.19 | lemur | roods: Check your bios to see if you can boot from the CD drive |
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| 20:34.23 | caphuso | roods: because of that chroot error message? |
| 20:34.26 | wiler | rm can not remove `(1994)? not such file or directory |
| 20:34.35 | roods | lemur: ya i just did that |
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| 20:34.45 | lemur | roods: Does it actually boot, or what? |
| 20:34.52 | roods | nope |
| 20:34.54 | caphuso | wiler: what does ls say about it? |
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| 20:35.12 | jelly | joeljkp: yes. configure uw-imap (or another imapd) and leave the SquirrelMail settings at default. They're just a workaround. |
| 20:35.14 | lemur | roods: Did you test the disc on another machine to see if it's bootable? |
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| 20:35.31 | roods | lemur: it seems bootable from my laptop |
| 20:35.32 | nkuttler | wiler: rm *\(1994\)* |
| 20:35.41 | joeljkp | jelly: k, i'll look into it, thanks a lot |
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| 20:35.51 | jelly | joeljkp: np |
| 20:36.00 | lemur | roods: You could also make debian boot floppies and then run the install from the CD after you boot from the floppies |
| 20:36.15 | roods | damn i don't have a floppy |
| 20:36.23 | lemur | You'd probably need two anyway |
| 20:36.29 | jlil | am i going to need flppy? |
| 20:36.36 | lemur | jlil: Depends |
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| 20:36.58 | jlil | hope not cause i have to go plug it in |
| 20:37.29 | jlil | debain is to big for lappy |
| 20:37.34 | jelly | joeljkp: blah, that FAQ entry is not really useful. O:-) |
| 20:37.54 | lemur | jlil: Debian? Too big!? Maybe you should try slackware. |
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| 20:38.07 | jlil | 500 meg hd |
| 20:38.11 | wiler | that seemed to work, thanks |
| 20:38.21 | jlil | 32 meg ram |
| 20:38.31 | joeljkp | jelly: heh, yeah, i saw that |
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| 20:38.38 | joeljkp | jelly: i'm installing dovecot right now, btw |
| 20:38.40 | lemur | sounds like my laptop, but I upgraded the hd to 2g a long time ago, which turned out to be a good idea |
| 20:38.56 | ke6isf | jlil: You're not going to get much of a WM on 32 MB. |
| 20:39.09 | lemur | ke6isf: windowmaker is a great wm |
| 20:39.09 | RvGaTe | yoooo party people ! :D |
| 20:39.19 | ke6isf | !start a wm war |
| 20:39.20 | dpkg | enlightenment sucks! |
| 20:39.25 | jlil | dam small is the best for it |
| 20:39.27 | lemur | dpkg: word |
| 20:39.28 | dpkg | word to your mutha! |
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| 20:39.33 | jelly | joeljkp: yeah, that's better for a fresh install. |
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| 20:41.25 | jelly | jlil: you can probably install anything on 2GB, but installing debian is going to be ... slow. |
| 20:41.43 | xdr_ | caphuso: but I have a /bin/sh there |
| 20:42.02 | NightLord | does anybody know why, whenever i try to change my keyboard settings i get this error: http://pastebin.com/373763 |
| 20:42.05 | caphuso | xdr_: then you're chrooting the wrong dir |
| 20:42.17 | caphuso | or maybe the /bin/sh is a dangling symlink |
| 20:42.25 | ivan` | trying to install vmware tools on unstable is soo much fun |
| 20:42.30 | ivan` | i think i'm getting there though |
| 20:42.40 | lemur | ivan`: You're a crazy man |
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| 20:43.10 | joeljkp | jelly: wow, this is a really long conf file |
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| 20:43.20 | ivan` | lemur, yep |
| 20:43.30 | ivan` | it needs gcc-3.3 and some kernel headers |
| 20:43.33 | ivan` | and then some more stuff |
| 20:43.35 | jlil | flux wm wil work fine |
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| 20:43.44 | jelly | joeljkp: I _think_ dovecot works out of the box... |
| 20:43.46 | lemur | no, windowmaker! |
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| 20:43.57 | joeljkp | jelly: well, you just need to tell it to accept imap |
| 20:44.07 | joeljkp | jelly: i'm looking to see where it defines the folder location... |
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| 20:44.27 | ivan` | hahaha, vmware tools installed! |
| 20:44.29 | ivan` | pwnage |
| 20:44.38 | lemur | what are you going to do with it? |
| 20:44.53 | ivan` | me? |
| 20:44.57 | lemur | yes you |
| 20:45.03 | ivan` | i'm testing some dangerous programs |
| 20:45.14 | lemur | see, if you had solaris, you could use zones |
| 20:45.18 | sgeigerbot | I would have sworn that this simple bash script would echo the URL and then the contents of the page. What am I forgetting? echo "$1"; /usr/bin/links -dump $1 > /tmp/foo |
| 20:45.28 | ivan` | yeah, well i'm stuck with XP |
| 20:45.40 | lemur | oh, so you're running XP on vmware? |
| 20:45.50 | ivan` | XP->vmware->debian unstable |
| 20:45.59 | ivan` | so no my desktop is running XP |
| 20:46.06 | lemur | ah, sorry |
| 20:46.23 | lemur | I didn't realize you were installing unstable on vmware...you made it sound like you were installing vmware on usntable :p |
| 20:46.45 | ivan` | haha |
| 20:46.47 | ivan` | that would be funny |
| 20:46.48 | deadcat | can i use awk to test if the file /proc/apm exist before i do anything with it? |
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| 20:47.05 | jelly | lemur: "vmware tools" are helpers run inside the virtual machine |
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| 20:47.25 | lemur | jelly: Yeah, I re-read what he wrote and thought it was something like that |
| 20:47.36 | lemur | jelly: But what functions might helper tools provide? |
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| 20:49.07 | jelly | lemur: not much really for Linux. I hve the opposite situation, and they provide drivers for VGA, copy/paste support, time sync and some dhcp related scripts. |
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| 20:49.36 | jelly | lemur: I'm running XP under vmware, on an unstable host. ;-) |
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| 20:49.58 | lemur | jelly: You should change your nick to 'navi then ;D |
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| 20:53.09 | welson | anyone ever hear about ktoon? |
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| 20:53.29 | lemur | welson: Sure...I used to watch those every saturday morning |
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| 20:53.33 | Carlao | I have windows xp and debian 3.1 installed in my pc.I would like to work with both operating systems and for that i installed vmware.do i have to install windows again in order to use linux and windows xp at the same window,or i can make vmware recognize the winxp installed in my machine? |
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| 20:53.51 | Ramendik | Hello |
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| 20:54.03 | ivan` | is there an easy way to install all suggested and recommended packages in apt-get? |
| 20:54.04 | caphuso | Carlao: that's a question for the vmware support, not #debian |
| 20:54.06 | ivan` | i'm installing X right now |
| 20:54.10 | caphuso | ivan`: no |
| 20:54.13 | ivan` | :( |
| 20:54.18 | caphuso | use a real package management tool |
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| 20:54.28 | ivan` | is there a replacement? |
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| 20:54.37 | Ramendik | I have a complete copy of Sarge on my hard drive. I have resized the ext3 partition and want to make sure files are not corrupt. Is there a ready script that would check all the sizes and MD5 sums? |
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| 20:54.55 | welson | nah, really, it looks like a good prog for debian (http://ktoon.toonka.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewsdownload&sid=6) |
| 20:54.56 | ivan` | heh, filesystems don't keep md5 sums |
| 20:54.58 | caphuso | ivan`: dselect, aptitude, synaptic, kpackage, ... |
| 20:55.00 | ivan` | ok |
| 20:55.05 | hns | ivan`, i think aptitude can do that |
| 20:55.17 | lemur | Ramendik: It's kind of hard to check the sums AFTER you've changed the filesystem |
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| 20:55.24 | lemur | Unless you've also done it before |
| 20:55.28 | Ramendik | Well, the files SEEM intact |
| 20:55.36 | Ramendik | But there are those Packages and Sources files |
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| 20:55.43 | Ramendik | with the MD5 sums for all the other files |
| 20:55.50 | jelly | Ramendik: use debsums for that |
| 20:55.50 | caphuso | uh, no |
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| 20:55.55 | Ramendik | I want to check the MD5 sums against the lists in Packages/Sources |
| 20:56.08 | Ramendik | jelly: thanks! I'll go google for debsums now |
| 20:56.12 | caphuso | not every file has a MD5 sum stored |
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| 20:56.18 | jelly | Ramendik: d'oh, install debsums. |
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| 20:56.48 | Ramendik | debsums seems to check files from installed packages? |
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| 20:56.53 | XaRz | I¡m having a weird problem in sid |
| 20:56.53 | Ramendik | I want to check the packages themselves |
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| 20:57.00 | joeljkp | jelly: what's with "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"? |
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| 20:57.02 | XaRz | it's about cups an gtklp |
| 20:57.17 | caphuso | Ramendik: erm, you're confused, i think |
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| 20:57.32 | XaRz | could cups detect a printer and gtklp or xpp don't detect it? |
| 20:57.38 | Ramendik | I may be |
| 20:57.40 | jelly | joeljkp: You can delete it if you don't use uw-imapd or pine any more. |
| 20:57.47 | joeljkp | jelly: k |
| 20:57.48 | ke6isf | joeljkp: It comes up sometimes if you use things like pine. |
| 20:58.07 | Ramendik | I could write the script in 10 minutes... |
| 20:58.11 | jelly | joeljkp: it's libc-client's additional junk. |
| 20:58.17 | caphuso | Ramendik: the md5 sum of a package is the md5 sum of the .deb file |
| 20:58.19 | joeljkp | jelly: cool, done |
| 20:58.22 | Ramendik | yes. |
| 20:58.26 | Carlao | I have windows xp and debian 3.1 installed in my pc.I would like to work with both operating systems and for that i installed vmware.do i have to install windows again in order to use linux and windows xp at the same window,or i can make vmware recognize the winxp installed in my machine? |
| 20:58.32 | Ramendik | That's what I want to check, against the listing in Packages |
| 20:58.40 | me_here | which branch is k3dsurf located in? testing or unstable ? |
| 20:58.43 | caphuso | Ramendik: which means it's totally useless to someone who wants to check that the files on his system are intact |
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| 20:58.58 | Ramendik | but I want to check if the .deb files themselves are intact |
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| 20:59.32 | Ramendik | I don't even have Sarge installed yet (a different distro is on). Somebody brought me Sarge and I want to make sure it's all right now |
| 20:59.39 | joeljkp | jelly: is having the folders be called INBOX.something a squirrelmail thing? |
| 20:59.42 | jlil | how do you mount iso on desk top so u can send it to another os? |
| 20:59.43 | caphuso | Ramendik: so all you have on that resized file system is a bunch of .deb files? |
| 20:59.46 | joeljkp | jelly: instead of having them be their own folders? |
| 20:59.49 | jelly | Carlao: you can use the "raw disk" but it's not recommended. It's easy to do something wrong. |
| 21:00.08 | Ramendik | pretty m,uch so... also .tar.gz files actually, and Sources and Packages and the complete shebang :) |
| 21:00.10 | jelly | joeljkp: I think so, it makes three default folders. |
| 21:00.24 | Ramendik | and debian-securoty to go with it |
| 21:00.36 | Ramendik | just acopy of a mirror, nothing more |
| 21:00.36 | jelly | $trash_folder = 'INBOX.Trash'; |
| 21:00.37 | jelly | $sent_folder = 'INBOX.Sent'; |
| 21:00.37 | jelly | $draft_folder = 'INBOX.Drafts'; |
| 21:01.06 | Ramendik | I'll install Sarge from that soo, but first I want to make sure the files did not get garbled in the resize |
| 21:01.20 | Ramendik | They probably didn't but I want a check anyway |
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| 21:01.31 | Ramendik | so yes it's the DEBs I need to check |
| 21:01.40 | kamaraju | I followed http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 to install java on sid machine. But when I went to http://serios.net/content/applets/viewinfoawt.php it still shows that the java plugin is missing. I have already linked /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ . Is there anything else I need to do? |
| 21:01.50 | caphuso | Ramendik: then you need to write a simple script |
| 21:02.06 | Ramendik | ok |
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| 21:02.15 | nkuttler | kamaraju: what browser do you use? |
| 21:02.16 | stew | kamaraju: if you used java-package, you shouldn't have to make any symlink, it should be made for you |
| 21:02.24 | Ramendik | so it's not yet written. I'll take my python (I don't speak shell well enough) and do it |
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| 21:02.34 | lord_rob | kamaraju: apt-get install java-package |
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| 21:02.52 | docelic | Howdy folks |
| 21:02.59 | kamaraju | nkuttler: I am using mozilla-firefox. |
| 21:03.22 | xixor | howdy |
| 21:03.24 | kamaraju | stew: It was already made. But I did it again, thinking that there could be some problem. |
| 21:03.25 | jlil | how do you mont iso |
| 21:03.37 | Ramendik | thanks |
| 21:03.40 | kamaraju | lord_rob: I installed java-package. What else? |
| 21:03.48 | stew | kamaraju: and it doesn't show up when you go to about:plugins ? |
| 21:03.50 | jelly | joeljkp: I think it's just their names are prefixed with "INBOX.". |
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| 21:04.24 | resiak | jlil: mount path-to-iso /mnt/somewhere -t iso9660 -o loop |
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| 21:04.31 | alabastos | hi |
| 21:04.36 | resiak | jlil: man mount. It's all in there. |
| 21:04.39 | alabastos | somebody runs roxen3 webserver ??? |
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| 21:04.42 | joeljkp | jelly: k |
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| 21:04.52 | kamaraju | stew: When I went about:plugins, It says java script is enabled. What is it supposed to show? |
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| 21:05.12 | jelly | docelic: ola |
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| 21:05.42 | stew | kamaraju: you should see a lot of stuff about java on that page if the plugin is working |
| 21:05.54 | resiak | kamaraju: javascript has exactly nothing to do with java. |
| 21:06.11 | docelic | oj jelly kako je |
| 21:06.24 | jelly | docelic: same old, same old |
| 21:06.26 | gass | who use gnome-art, please see this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=330087 for gnome-look.org support |
| 21:06.28 | kamaraju | stew: resiak: No nothing shows up there other than java script is enabled messages. What should I do now? |
| 21:06.30 | stew | kamaraju: wait you are you suing mozilla or firefox? |
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| 21:06.37 | stew | using* |
| 21:06.54 | kamaraju | stew: mozilla-firefox 1.0.7 |
| 21:07.25 | stew | kamaraju: then you should be putting the plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox not /usr/lib/mozilla |
| 21:07.48 | bucky | kamaraju, you could go here and see if your applets are enabled http://www.help4web.net/webmaster/Java/ |
| 21:07.50 | stew | kamaraju: however as long as firefox was installed from the debian package, the link should already be ther |
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| 21:08.07 | joeljkp | jelly: cool, looks like things are good |
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| 21:08.47 | alabastos | somebody runs roxen3 webserver ??? |
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| 21:08.57 | deadcat | can i use awk to test if the file /proc/apm exist before i do anything with it? |
| 21:08.59 | Jenetik | does sarge come with a default firewall installed? |
| 21:09.07 | Jenetik | I can ssh locally, but not from another machine |
| 21:09.11 | Jenetik | (remote machine) |
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| 21:09.18 | deadcat | Jenetik: iptables |
| 21:09.19 | Jenetik | nevermind |
| 21:09.21 | stew | Jenetik: no firewll |
| 21:09.22 | kamaraju | stew: there are already libjavaplugin_oji.so links in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins |
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| 21:09.38 | lemur | I need a soda |
| 21:09.46 | xixor | I need a beer |
| 21:09.51 | Jenetik | it took a while to login for some reason |
| 21:10.00 | Jenetik | I need a hit |
| 21:10.05 | kamaraju | stew: But there is also /usr/lib/mozilla/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so Should I remove it or is it supposed to be there? |
| 21:10.15 | stew | deadcat: why would you want to use awk? how about just test -e? |
| 21:10.41 | deadcat | stew: dont work inside .screenrc |
| 21:10.45 | Jenetik | Is there a HOWTO to get vmware working under debian? kernel 2.6.8 |
| 21:11.02 | priest | Jenetik, what is the problem? |
| 21:11.03 | caphuso | deadcat: but awk does? that's, uhm, interesting... |
| 21:11.12 | Jenetik | priest: vmware-config.pl errors out at the end |
| 21:11.14 | deadcat | caphuso: dont know. thats why i am asking |
| 21:11.22 | stew | kamaraju: oh, you didn't install firefox from the debian package then, so i'm not sure which you should be using |
| 21:11.28 | caphuso | deadcat: what exactly are you trying to achieve? |
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| 21:11.35 | Jenetik | priest: won't even install from their site or warezed version, same problem, some script |
| 21:11.40 | kamaraju | stew: I installed firefox from debian only. |
| 21:11.44 | Jenetik | priest: is there a debian packagae |
| 21:11.46 | bucky | kamaraju, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so it's probably just a soft link.. i'd leave it |
| 21:12.01 | deadcat | caphuso: backtick 1 10 10 awk '$7 !~ /^-/ {printf "%s ", $7}' /proc/apm |
| 21:12.03 | stew | kamaraju: the debian package didnt' put files in /usr/mozilla/firefox |
| 21:12.08 | stew | kamaraju: afaict, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=mozilla-firefox&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
| 21:12.33 | priest | Jenetik, paste the error in #flood |
| 21:12.55 | kamaraju | ls -al /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Apr 10 16:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so |
| 21:13.54 | caphuso | deadcat: ah, write a shell script, and execute that instead of inlining everything in ~/.screenrc |
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| 21:14.28 | priest | Jenetik, which version of vmware is it? 5? |
| 21:14.30 | deadcat | caphuso: ya. thats what i used to have. but i figure i dont want anything attach to .screenrc |
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| 21:14.44 | caphuso | deadcat: "attach to .screenrc"? |
| 21:14.48 | Jenetik | VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz |
| 21:15.08 | resiak | deadcat: What does that do? |
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| 21:15.29 | deadcat | caphuso: i just dont think .screenrc should require another script. |
| 21:15.37 | Jenetik | I have tried it from rpm, alien (.deb), and even some shitty warezed version, which is basically the same thingon the vmware site except they give you serials |
| 21:15.39 | resiak | deadcat: (that is to say, what are you pulling from /proc/apm?) |
| 21:15.43 | Jenetik | all of them fail out on the config.pl script |
| 21:15.46 | Jenetik | with that error |
| 21:15.53 | deadcat | resiak: displays the bat life on the status inside screen |
| 21:15.55 | priest | Jenetik, and there was no other errors when you installed it? |
| 21:15.58 | Jenetik | no |
| 21:16.01 | Jenetik | that is the error |
| 21:16.07 | resiak | deadcat: Cunning |
| 21:16.08 | iron_donut | hi |
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| 21:16.11 | Jenetik | at the very end, it is supposed to finish out and I get that |
| 21:16.15 | deadcat | resiak: let me shw you screenshot |
| 21:16.20 | Jenetik | I have installed vmware on slackware |
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| 21:16.33 | caphuso | deadcat: well, if you like to make your life harder than necessary, be my guest |
| 21:16.43 | Jenetik | hence the need for someone to point me at a howto, because the thing obviously doesn't work for debianm |
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| 21:16.56 | priest | Jenetik, i'm running vmware5 on Debian Sarge right now, and have installed it many times. |
| 21:16.59 | Jenetik | I have tried google |
| 21:17.07 | Jenetik | priest: what did you do? |
| 21:17.13 | Jenetik | d/l from site? |
| 21:17.17 | Jenetik | I get that error every time |
| 21:17.19 | Jenetik | and I run sarge |
| 21:17.23 | Jenetik | and everything up to date |
| 21:17.24 | deadcat | resiak: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/ibook/xwd_20050922_14156.png notice the terminal with pandora on the lastline |
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| 21:17.53 | priest | Jenetik, yes, I download it from their site, and just installed it. |
| 21:18.04 | deadcat | caphuso: i just dont feel like keeping track on so many files. they are used on multiple machines |
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| 21:18.22 | resiak | deadcat: Neat. |
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| 21:18.49 | servus | What is the rubber duckie doing, deadcat? |
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| 21:19.00 | resiak | servus: apt-cache show wmbubble |
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| 21:19.36 | servus | The frothing bubbles look so CPU-intensive as to cause more and more bubbles until water spills out my monitor casing. No thank you. |
| 21:19.47 | deadcat | servus: oh ya. wmbubble |
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| 21:20.12 | greyson | Hey all... quick question: What is the appropriate way to find the stock kernel config? I need to patch my kernel, but I don't want to start from scratch, since the stock kernel is working fine as is. |
| 21:20.12 | kl0ck | yo, after I compiled my new kernel, at boot the kernel panics because it cant find the root partition, at /dev/hda3, but it is most definately there |
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| 21:20.29 | greyson | kl0ck: Is it marked as bootable? |
| 21:20.37 | kl0ck | greyson: yeah |
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| 21:21.07 | fjkadfooo | How do I run KDE applications as root? |
| 21:21.07 | Yulia | anyone knows where i cant find acpi sources for compile ? |
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| 21:21.15 | servus | greyson: In the kernel source dir: `make oldconfig` |
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| 21:21.51 | servus | Then you can make menuconfig or whatever... |
| 21:21.51 | deadcat | fjkadfooo: sudo kcrap |
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| 21:22.05 | resiak | greyson: /boot/config-* |
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| 21:23.01 | greyson | resiak + servus: Thank you! |
| 21:23.27 | greyson | kl0ck: Sorry, no clue at this point... you can mount it from a recovery cd? |
| 21:23.32 | green_earz | greyson: copy the kernel config from /boot to /usr/src/linux/.config then make oldconfig |
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| 21:24.02 | kl0ck | greyson: yeah |
| 21:24.17 | kl0ck | greyson: i still have the old kernel to boot from, its just a pain |
| 21:25.11 | servus | greyson: Using grub boot loader? |
| 21:25.12 | green_earz | greyson: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html |
| 21:25.19 | salloka | any j2me developers here? |
| 21:25.23 | servus | If so, you can set up the kernel boot parameters at boottime. |
| 21:25.39 | greyson | servus: Yeah... Not by choice -- fresh install. |
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| 21:26.26 | servus | Well then when you get to the kernel selection menu, select your kernel, press "e" to edit the boot params, hope that you know what it should be, edit them thusly, and press "b" to try to boot :) |
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| 21:26.54 | lemur | in Soviet Russia, colonel selects YOU |
| 21:26.57 | lemur | *kernel |
| 21:27.33 | servus | Slashdot loses its mystique after you read all the idiotic comments about one of your articles by people that did not read it : o) |
| 21:27.39 | docelic | interesting lapsus :) |
| 21:27.42 | kl0ck | greyson: i think i figured it out |
| 21:27.45 | kl0ck | i will return |
| 21:27.58 | lemur | Slashdot is for amusement only...like Windows XP |
| 21:28.28 | joeljkp | jelly: how do you have your squirrelmail set up? |
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| 21:28.30 | Jenetik | slashdot is retarded |
| 21:28.35 | joeljkp | jelly: your squirrelmail folders, i mean |
| 21:28.37 | Jenetik | its not even a news site |
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| 21:28.41 | Jenetik | its an advertisement |
| 21:28.42 | servus | Windows XP is a fine OS. |
| 21:28.45 | lemur | Slashdot is -1:Offtopic |
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| 21:28.56 | lemur | servus: ...for me to poop on |
| 21:29.11 | servus | Just because you're in a Linux room doesn't mean you have to be zealous ;-) |
| 21:29.11 | Jenetik | slashdot used to be cool, before they posted 500 new stories every 5 minutes |
| 21:29.23 | Jenetik | and you didn't get 5000 worthless stories mixed in |
| 21:29.31 | Jenetik | with 5000 stupid comments |
| 21:29.31 | lemur | servus: I know, I just can't resist a horrible joke opportunity ;) |
| 21:29.36 | joeljkp | jenetik: they post a story every 30 min |
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| 21:29.45 | servus | OK Fair enough |
| 21:29.54 | Jenetik | slashdot isn't even worth reading |
| 21:29.58 | servus | The world is just getting more interesting, joel! |
| 21:30.03 | joeljkp | jenetik: sorry, every hour |
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| 21:30.11 | _kron_ | hi.. somebody knows a better program to download files than mldonkey? |
| 21:30.16 | Jenetik | limewire? |
| 21:30.20 | lemur | Actually, I wanted to get XP on this machine, but it won't do it. I have no idea why--the installer just locks up at the same point every time. |
| 21:30.20 | Jenetik | qtorrent? |
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| 21:30.22 | docelic | _kron_, amule ? |
| 21:30.22 | Jenetik | newzbin? |
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| 21:30.33 | lemur | It's like years of linux/BSD have made it allergic to Windows |
| 21:30.35 | servus | Isn't Newzbin a website?.. |
| 21:31.07 | leks | to download try amule |
| 21:31.18 | joeljkp | jenetik: they've actually slowed news postings since this time 2 years ago |
| 21:31.24 | green_earz | _kron_: bittornado-gui |
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| 21:31.58 | leks | yes torrent::!! goog idea |
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| 21:33.10 | _kron_ | thanks green im apt getting bittornado.. to test it.. |
| 21:33.14 | CrippsFX | 'ello folks. |
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| 21:33.32 | green_earz | _kron_: and then http://thepiratebay.org/ |
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| 21:34.44 | CrippsFX | I just installed debian for the first time in over a year, and I did an apt-get kernel-image-2.6 to upgrade the kernel from the stock 2.4.x kernel, and in my new kernel, my DLink dfe-530tx ethernet card does not work. I can't remember how to fix this, so I was wondering if I could get just a little bit of help. |
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| 21:38.47 | snd | Anyone ever get this? I am seeing vertical stripe lines across my screen |
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| 21:39.21 | CrippsFX | snd, I would assume that it means something is wrong with your refresh/horiz sync in your xorg.conf. |
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| 21:40.06 | CrippsFX | try looking up the exact specs for your monitor from the manufacturer, and placing those values in your xorg.conf |
| 21:40.06 | docelic | snd it is visible on any background or on the plain "dotted" one that's the standad background of the X server? |
| 21:40.16 | joeljkp | i have a server with a set of users, what's the best way to define an alias (like all@server.org) for an email to all users? |
| 21:40.20 | me_here | how do i reinstall a package with apt-get ? |
| 21:40.25 | joeljkp | using exim4, btw |
| 21:40.30 | snd | well i am using xfree86, but i also have another linux distro running on xorg with a 128mb video card on digital and its fine, but my 4mb on analog is giving me this, and i've used the same sync specs for both |
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| 21:40.45 | docelic | joeljkp, an entry in /etc/aliases: allusers: user1,user2,user3,.... |
| 21:40.51 | A[D]minS | i want to install serga from harddisk ...and will download it by rsync |
| 21:40.52 | snd | docelic: visible on fluxbox and the grayish x background |
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| 21:40.56 | joeljkp | docelic, k |
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| 21:41.09 | A[D]minS | so i have to rsync all in http://www.linorg.usp.br/debian/dists/sarge/ ? |
| 21:41.16 | roods | is jigdo the best way to get debian? |
| 21:41.22 | docelic | snd, do you know what is "moire" effect ? |
| 21:41.29 | snd | no |
| 21:41.33 | docelic | roods, no |
| 21:41.47 | roods | what is the best way |
| 21:41.50 | snd | i googled it... |
| 21:41.53 | snd | what about it? |
| 21:41.54 | A[D]minS | roods: can´t find any thing about which to download :) |
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| 21:42.06 | the1_ts | me_here: apt-get --reinstall install package should do it |
| 21:42.34 | docelic | snd do you think it's the moire effect or something else? |
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| 21:42.58 | docelic | snd (the first hit on google isn't exactly best for computer understanding) |
| 21:43.15 | snd | i dont think its a moire effect since it has to be the same background placed ontop each other but one is titled at another angle correct? i just see vertical lins that differ in color |
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| 21:43.21 | docelic | snd, http://discover.edventures.com/images/termlib/m/moire_effect/support.gif |
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| 21:43.33 | snd | like if my background is blue, one line would be light blue, the other is blue next column its light blue, etc. |
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| 21:44.12 | docelic | snd does it move over the screen as you move the mouse or is always at the same position? |
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| 21:44.19 | snd | it doesn't look like that, its just straight lines with no real "illusion" type of effect |
| 21:44.27 | Cran | hi |
| 21:44.30 | snd | its static |
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| 21:44.54 | snd | does not come out on screenshots... and i can see it on everything, wallpaper... on firefox |
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| 21:45.14 | Cran | which is the command tto close the computer from teminal??????? |
| 21:45.34 | snd | i guess im pretty sure its my xfree86 config, because i havent seen it always... just dont know why since im using the same sync rates as my other linux desktop connected to the same monitor |
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| 21:46.27 | Cran | which is the command tto close the computer from teminal??????? |
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| 21:46.41 | servus | shutdown now -h is probably what you mean. |
| 21:46.42 | green_earz | Cran: to shutdown the dox login as su and then the command halt |
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| 21:47.20 | docelic | Cran, don't repeat yourself and don't use more than one ? |
| 21:47.20 | green_earz | box not dox |
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| 21:47.47 | sn00p | i've got vmware running windows xp on top of linux how do I move files from my virtual partition for windows xp to my linux file system anybody have any idea? |
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| 21:48.45 | docelic | sn00p, is windows installation on its own partition or inside a single file on Linux? |
| 21:49.16 | sn00p | docelic: inside a single file on lnux |
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| 21:49.18 | sn00p | linux |
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| 21:49.42 | docelic | sn00p, well anyway you can mount that file under linux... mount -o loop win_file some_directory |
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| 21:50.19 | mperry | sn00p, you can also have vmware setup a share between the guest xp and host linux system |
| 21:50.32 | sn00p | mperry: how? |
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| 21:50.46 | mperry | sn00p, its in the preferences for the vmware session |
| 21:50.52 | mperry | enable sharing or some such |
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| 21:52.31 | feni1 | Hi all |
| 21:53.02 | sn00p | mperry: cant find it |
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| 21:53.55 | sn00p | mperry: i'm using 5.0 |
| 21:54.02 | mperry | sn00p, I've used it before. Its in one of the options. I use 5.0 on windows and linux |
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| 21:54.33 | mperry | may have to poke around a bit either in settings or options or preferences somewhere |
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| 21:54.40 | ray | !marrillat |
| 21:54.46 | ray | !marillat |
| 21:54.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
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| 21:56.36 | sn00p | mperry: it says enabled share folder is on |
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| 21:56.47 | ray | brb |
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| 21:57.39 | sn00p | Mperry: ok, i found it |
| 21:57.41 | CosmoDad | how come fuser /dev/dsp* doesn't return any PIDs even when my sound device is being used? |
| 21:57.53 | CosmoDad | I need to find out the process id.. |
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| 21:59.32 | antgel_ | CosmoDad: is /dev/dsp alsa or oss? |
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| 22:00.20 | sn00p | mpeery |
| 22:00.24 | sn00p | mperry |
| 22:00.35 | sn00p | I cant find the shared directory |
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| 22:00.51 | Helpless | Hey I keep getting bad hostname errors while trying to setup cpanel on Debian can someone help? |
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| 22:04.43 | dregan | bye |
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| 22:08.07 | sn00p | football is stupid |
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| 22:08.43 | hypersphere-ish | I have a samba server and need a utility to regularly back up all the files on the server (just the files, not the OS or anything) to a secondary internal IDE drive (removed each night via a tray). I've looked around but can't figure out how to do this. Any ideas? Please help... |
| 22:08.54 | teebonez | sn00p, wich one? the foot or the ball :P |
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| 22:09.23 | mwilson | hypersphere-ish: You mean you want someone to write it for you. |
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| 22:10.01 | mwilson | hypersphere-ish: Samba doesn't have anything to do with it. |
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| 22:11.02 | bhearsum | how do i disable shadow passwords? |
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| 22:12.04 | teebonez | bhearsum, ehm.. why would you do that? |
| 22:12.06 | bhearsum | teebonez: because i'm trying to find the source of a problem with NIS |
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| 22:12.14 | LightVision | bhearsum: there are no problems, only challenges |
| 22:12.29 | teebonez | lol |
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| 22:12.41 | bhearsum | LightVision: no, i have problems |
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| 22:12.59 | teebonez | no.. you have a challenge your mind isn't ready for yet |
| 22:13.00 | teebonez | :P |
| 22:13.13 | bhearsum | anyone want to help me out, or are you just going to be smartasses? |
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| 22:14.41 | LightVision | bhearsum: there are no problems, only challenges. kids have problems, mature adults have challenges. so you need to ask yourself,. are you a kid or adult |
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| 22:14.59 | LightVision | teebonez: good point :) |
| 22:15.13 | LightVision | teebonez: he is not ready |
| 22:15.14 | bhearsum | LightVision: thanks |
| 22:15.16 | bhearsum | thanks very much |
| 22:15.25 | LightVision | bhearsum: welcome |
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| 22:15.26 | bhearsum | you're so helpful. |
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| 22:15.35 | snd | what should i apt-get to get the kernel source so i can configure my own kernel? |
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| 22:15.46 | LightVision | snd: kernel.org |
| 22:15.54 | mwilson | snd: You have no reason to do that. |
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| 22:16.03 | snd | why? |
| 22:16.12 | lemur | mwilson: You don't know that, jerk |
| 22:16.12 | LightVision | snd: and if you are asking that, you are not ready to compile your own kernel |
| 22:16.30 | snd | I've configured my own linux kernel before |
| 22:16.41 | mwilson | lemur: If he truly needed to build his own kernel, he'd know where to get the necessary. |
| 22:16.45 | LightVision | snd: there are only a few reasons why you want to do that! so tell us all, why? |
| 22:16.54 | LightVision | mwilson: good point |
| 22:16.57 | snd | I am running on an old PC, i want to maybe get back a few bytes of memory |
| 22:16.58 | lemur | mwilson: That's not true at all. |
| 22:17.09 | snd | also the boot time is incredibly slow right now |
| 22:17.09 | LightVision | snd: forget about it :) |
| 22:17.26 | resiak | !tell snd -about d-r |
| 22:17.36 | resiak | snd: Read the section on compiling a kernel on Debian. |
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| 22:17.44 | mwilson | lemur: Actually, it is. |
| 22:17.49 | mryaggi | hi all |
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| 22:18.02 | lemur | mwilson: Prove it. |
| 22:18.03 | teebonez | alloh |
| 22:18.04 | snd | thank you for not discouraging someone who wants to tinker and learn as oppose to others :) |
| 22:18.07 | resiak | !debian kernel image |
| 22:18.08 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
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| 22:18.32 | snd | well i take back my comment :) |
| 22:18.51 | snd | I dont know what the big deal is I've compiled my own custom kernel for linux 2.6.x before as well the freebsd kernel |
| 22:18.58 | outlaw84 | I am looking for a console mp3 that shutsdown once it has fnished playing the file... thus allowing me of queue a command after it |
| 22:18.59 | lemur | A true need to build a custom kernel could be, "Boss: I need you to configure a custom kernel for our new servers." The fact of whether or not he knows how to do it is completely unrelated. |
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| 22:19.07 | LightVision | snd: np. you are welcome |
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| 22:19.33 | mwilson | lemur: No, that's a need to become educated. |
| 22:19.36 | mryaggi | well.. anybody got 2min in private for a simple question on samba ? |
| 22:19.37 | LightVision | lemur: relax dude, you will get a stroke |
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| 22:19.47 | mwilson | outlaw84: mpg123 |
| 22:19.49 | bucky | i had to recompile mine because initrd loads every available disk controler and ignores blacklist on those |
| 22:19.51 | lemur | I am relaxed :) |
| 22:19.53 | snd | its more tedious than it is hard, and besides im not dumb enough to not use my current kernel image as a backup incase the one i customized goes wrong |
| 22:19.55 | NightLord | does anybody know why, whenever i try to change my keyboard settings i get this error: http://pastebin.com/373763 |
| 22:20.00 | roods | what determines if you cd-rom is bootable, your motherboard or your cd drive? |
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| 22:20.36 | cGc[2] | roods, the data on the CD determines if it is bootable |
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| 22:20.43 | bucky | snd, apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 22:20.59 | mryaggi | "NT_STATUS_NETWORK_ACCESS_DENIED", does it sounds familiar to anybody ? |
| 22:20.59 | roods | i can't get my one computer to boot with this cd, but my laptop can |
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| 22:21.22 | cGc[2] | roods, go into the bios and set the CDrom as the first boot device..and if it still doesnt work then set it as the only boot device |
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| 22:21.27 | lemur | besides, we come on #debian to help and share info, I hope, not belittle those that don't know something we think is obvious |
| 22:21.31 | streuner | mryaggi: sounds like a #samba problem |
| 22:21.43 | roods | cGc[2]: i tried that already |
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| 22:21.51 | bucky | snd and do it this way http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html#s-kernel-debian |
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| 22:21.53 | cGc[2] | roods, hmm |
| 22:22.36 | lemur | a glass of vodka for everyone! |
| 22:22.52 | NyteRukh | hi |
| 22:23.02 | mwilson | mryaggi: <shrug> Use a correct username and password. |
| 22:23.17 | snd | ty, brb |
| 22:23.40 | mryaggi | i did. i can mount, but cant have browse list by smbclient |
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| 22:24.01 | LightVision | roods: does your bios support it? |
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| 22:24.13 | mwilson | mryaggi: As I said, use a correct username and password. |
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| 22:24.31 | hogmeat | is it possible to have two functional "default" routes? |
| 22:24.32 | me_here | what may cause a segmentation fault in xmms (testing version) in a debian stable release, as far as i know everything needed is updated and installed |
| 22:24.35 | mwilson | mryaggi: You do not have one that enables you to browse. |
| 22:24.38 | LightVision | roods: did you say you saved your bios as booting from CD as first? |
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| 22:25.39 | roods | ya |
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| 22:25.47 | mryaggi | i even open the smb port on the web. you can mount the shares. but smblcient wont list them. |
| 22:25.53 | roods | is it weird that this cd has an autorun.bat file on it |
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| 22:25.55 | mryaggi | what should i enable according to you? |
| 22:26.05 | roods | it look like it should run, but maybe it only runs if you have windows installed |
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| 22:26.21 | mwilson | mryaggi: I didn't tell you to enable anything. |
| 22:26.23 | cGc[2] | well a batch file is a windows file |
| 22:26.25 | LightVision | roods: then the CD is faulty! try another bootable CD |
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| 22:26.39 | mwilson | mryaggi: I said you don't have the proper username and/or password. |
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| 22:27.20 | mryaggi | "mount //192.168.1.5/orn -t smbfs /tmp/aaa -o username=orn" [OK] ls /tmp/aaa return correct values |
| 22:27.22 | madclicker | is there a reasone why .bashrc is not being sourced in sarge ? |
| 22:27.37 | mwilson | mryaggi: Therefore the browse master won't give you access to IPC$, thereforeyou can't retrieve the browse list. |
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| 22:27.41 | mryaggi | " smbclient -L 192.168.1.5 -U orn" |returns NT_STATUS_NETWORK_ACCESS_DENIED |
| 22:27.47 | wireddd | is flightgear the best linux flight sim? |
| 22:27.47 | mwilson | madclicker: man bash, read the INVOCATION section. |
| 22:27.49 | mryaggi | u c ? |
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| 22:27.51 | LightVision | roods: dont tell me you only tried one bootable CD |
| 22:28.05 | madclicker | mwilson, roger |
| 22:28.14 | roods | i don't see any others on the http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ page |
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| 22:28.23 | phar0z | hi |
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| 22:30.14 | LightVision | roods: go and buy a magazine that comes with a bootable CD, and you will find it WORKS |
| 22:30.32 | cGc[2] | roods, just download from another mirror |
| 22:30.33 | phar0z | i've got first 6 debian sarge cd's |
| 22:30.41 | LightVision | roods: the reason its not working now is because the "bootable" cd you are trying is not a true bootable CD or corrupted |
| 22:30.54 | cGc[2] | phar0z, why? |
| 22:31.04 | roods | LightVision: where can i find a bootable cd? |
| 22:31.07 | phar0z | well I use Sarge now for 2 months |
| 22:31.15 | phar0z | well the first 6 cd's are enough :) |
| 22:31.19 | outlaw84 | mwilson: thanks for tips about mpg123, Needed to verify it first :) |
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| 22:31.31 | cGc[2] | phar0z, the first 1 cd is enough =P |
| 22:31.40 | phar0z | hehe :p |
| 22:31.41 | cGc[2] | the rest can be gotten from apt-get |
| 22:31.47 | phar0z | I know |
| 22:31.53 | LightVision | roods: go and buy a magazine that comes with a bootable CD, and you will find it WORKS |
| 22:31.53 | phar0z | by changing /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:32.06 | phar0z | but I didn't knew that when I was installing debian :p |
| 22:32.12 | roods | LightVision: that idea sucks |
| 22:32.20 | LightVision | phar0z: i use Sarge and only have 1 CD :) |
| 22:32.24 | cGc[2] | roods, just download from a different place |
| 22:32.26 | phar0z | nice |
| 22:32.29 | cGc[2] | LightVision, me too |
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| 22:32.36 | LightVision | roods: then dont and complain all day! your choice |
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| 22:33.04 | phar0z | hehe you download everything online now with apt-get ? |
| 22:33.10 | LightVision | i use Sarge and only ever needed 1 CD :), then used apt-get install for anything else I wanted! |
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| 22:33.21 | cGc[2] | phar0z, yeah..pretty easy |
| 22:33.22 | pinglapringla | hepp... where can i download more 'graphical greetings' for gnome/gdm |
| 22:33.27 | phar0z | yeah I know .. but I didn't knew that when I installed it :) |
| 22:33.29 | LightVision | cGc[2]: exactly |
| 22:33.32 | Helpless | I'm having a problem with setting up a hostname on Debian I keep getting message unable to determine hostname.. can someone help? |
| 22:33.37 | elnath | hello world :) |
| 22:33.48 | phar0z | :) |
| 22:33.53 | LightVision | phar0z: that way you can install whatever you want and not install what you dont need |
| 22:33.55 | cGc[2] | phar0z, i know im not criticizing you =) |
| 22:34.00 | phar0z | hehe |
| 22:34.30 | phar0z | yeah I was suprised with the unique great package system |
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| 22:34.43 | mryaggi | c ya all |
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| 22:35.05 | LightVision | phar0z: I bought the linux format magazine :) came with 2 Sarge CD, and I only needed the first one |
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| 22:35.16 | phar0z | linux format magazine? :) |
| 22:35.18 | phar0z | never heard of it :$ |
| 22:35.25 | pinglapringla | anyone? |
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| 22:35.53 | cGc[2] | pinglapringla, just make them |
| 22:35.57 | nvz | pinglapringla: perhaps you mean gdm themes |
| 22:36.05 | phar0z | i've got nice theme |
| 22:36.15 | phar0z | http://linux.be/gfx.use/linux.screenshot.1254.1.jpg |
| 22:36.23 | LightVision | phar0z: yeah, great linux magazine |
| 22:36.25 | pinglapringla | hehe, probably... where can i find more? |
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| 22:36.33 | phar0z | www.gnome-look.org |
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| 22:36.41 | roods | cGc[2]: where can i download cds? |
| 22:36.46 | mwilson | Gods, that's ugly. |
| 22:36.50 | phar0z | omg :/ |
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| 22:37.01 | LightVision | phar0z: http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/ |
| 22:37.12 | LightVision | roods: you are trolling now and wont listen |
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| 22:37.18 | phar0z | here you got linux magazine (netherlands) www.linuxmag.nl |
| 22:37.20 | jair | how can I change my password in irc.freenode |
| 22:37.21 | jair | ? |
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| 22:37.27 | pinglapringla | cool... thanx phar0z |
| 22:37.39 | phar0z | np |
| 22:37.51 | phar0z | I like the MAC OS x theme |
| 22:37.56 | phar0z | that gui |
| 22:38.07 | jair | anyone have an idea of how to change the password in the irc? |
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| 22:38.18 | chealer | can scp [simply] copy directories? |
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| 22:38.22 | mwilson | IRC doesn't have passwords. |
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| 22:38.30 | infoB | help with driver installation needed! |
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| 22:38.34 | jair | mwilson, I mean for my irc nick |
| 22:38.40 | chealer | jair, /msg nickserv help |
| 22:38.53 | phar0z | nice magazine =) |
| 22:39.08 | jair | chealer, thanks |
| 22:39.15 | infoB | CAN anyone HELP with driver installation? |
| 22:39.23 | abrotman | wrong emphasis |
| 22:39.26 | nvz | pinglapringla: have you tried installing the gdm-themes package ? |
| 22:39.46 | abrotman | infoB: CAN you BE less vague? |
| 22:39.51 | madclicker | mwilson: i read the man page, but am still having issues. I got three systems. All three have the same .bashrc and .bash_profile, two out of three systems work okay but the thirdone doesn't |
| 22:39.56 | cGc[2] | roods, ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/debian-cd/ |
| 22:40.00 | infoB | abrotman, sis 650 |
| 22:40.08 | abrotman | not to me |
| 22:40.10 | infoB | abrotman, graphics driver |
| 22:40.13 | abrotman | and that's not any less vague |
| 22:40.16 | LightVision | phar0z: which magazine? |
| 22:40.27 | phar0z | well linux format rocks i C :p |
| 22:40.30 | abrotman | do you know which driver it needs? Does X start? |
| 22:40.35 | abrotman | does it work with vesa |
| 22:40.36 | phar0z | but our linux magazine (www.linuxmag.nl) is also nice :p |
| 22:40.36 | roods | thanks, i was hoping for a minimal cd, but thanks |
| 22:40.40 | lemur | there ought to be a linux magazine for the rest of us |
| 22:40.41 | abrotman | !d-i roods |
| 22:40.42 | dpkg | roods, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 22:40.45 | LightVision | phar0z: linux format imho is the best linux magazine around :) |
| 22:40.49 | cGc[2] | roods, oh, one second |
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| 22:40.53 | phar0z | in the uk? |
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| 22:41.02 | infoB | abrotman, X works correctly but opengl does not |
| 22:41.06 | LightVision | phar0z: released worldwide |
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| 22:41.17 | abrotman | !d-i roods ? |
| 22:41.18 | dpkg | roods, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 22:41.19 | abrotman | bah |
| 22:41.23 | abrotman | infoB: did you check dri.sf.net for the troubleshooting ? |
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| 22:41.28 | phar0z | nice |
| 22:41.32 | cGc[2] | roods, where did you get your other one? so i dont send you to the same place |
| 22:41.33 | madclicker | need help with sourcing .bashrc and .bash_profile |
| 22:41.52 | nvz | pinglapringla: you can download some from the web at places such as http://www.customize.org/list/ggdm, http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/991/, or http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150 |
| 22:41.53 | roods | debian.org |
| 22:42.09 | elnath | Does anyone know how far in development is debian for amd64 ? |
| 22:42.14 | resiak | !amd64 |
| 22:42.15 | dpkg | somebody said amd64 was See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 22:42.16 | ke6isf | roods: Minimal disk would be 'netinst'. Doesn't get much more minimal than that. |
| 22:42.20 | abrotman | !tell elnath about amd64 |
| 22:42.20 | ke6isf | !tell roods -about netinst |
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| 22:42.53 | infoB | abrotman, i downloaded driver from manufactor but i do not now how one can install driver |
| 22:43.08 | abrotman | !unichrome |
| 22:43.08 | dpkg | hmm... unichrome is the graphics core found on many recent VIA chipsets. Namely, VIA CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400. See http://unichrome.sf.net/ or bother libv. |
| 22:43.08 | cGc[2] | roods, http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/ |
| 22:43.13 | abrotman | nope ... |
| 22:43.23 | cGc[2] | roods, this is a different section then where you got your first one |
| 22:43.27 | madclicker | bahhhh, /bin/bash /etc/passwd |
| 22:43.28 | infoB | infoB, hi |
| 22:43.30 | abrotman | infoB: i've never used a SiS board .. i thought the driver in X/kernel worked fine |
| 22:44.07 | infoB | abrotman: i am asking for genereal knowledge help. how one instalss *.o file in linux? |
| 22:44.18 | infoB | infoB: test |
| 22:44.21 | abrotman | http://xfree86.org/4.4.0/sis.4.html |
| 22:44.32 | abrotman | infoB: put it where the other X drivers are |
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| 22:45.12 | resiak | infoB: Why are you talking to yourself? |
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| 22:45.22 | infoB | abrotman, thnx for the page. where are other X drivers? |
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| 22:45.27 | nvz | dpkg, gdm themes is <reply>Graphical Greeter Themes for the Gnome Display Manager can be found in the gdm-themes package or online at http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150 , http://www.customize.org/list/ggdm , or http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/991/ |
| 22:45.27 | dpkg | okay, nvz |
| 22:45.32 | elnath | arbotman: thanx |
| 22:45.35 | infoB | resiak, i want to produce red letters |
| 22:45.53 | infoB | resiak, do you see red letters when i talk to you? |
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| 22:46.15 | resiak | infoB: They are, of course, disabled in this channel, precisely because of irritating people like yourself :) |
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| 22:46.28 | powadha | hola |
| 22:46.38 | abrotman | /usr/lib/X11/ ... maybe ? |
| 22:46.41 | infoB | resiak, why am i irritating? |
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| 22:47.05 | resiak | infoB: For trying to use red text. It's a circular definition :) |
| 22:47.10 | powadha | you've started to irritate me and I'm only here for 4 seconds |
| 22:47.16 | powadha | ;) |
| 22:47.20 | mwilson | People who think it's cute to use color codes are irritating. |
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| 22:47.24 | jbroome | a new record! |
| 22:47.32 | infoB | abrotman, i shall give it a shot. tell me, file named sis_drv.o is driver? |
| 22:48.05 | infoB | resiak, but i see red letters when you are talking to me |
| 22:48.07 | abrotman | infoB: X already has a driver .. i suspect you're going at it the hard way .. check dri.sf.net |
| 22:48.19 | infoB | abrotman, ok thnx |
| 22:48.21 | resiak | ... |
| 22:48.44 | nvz | dpkg, gdm themes =~ s#1/#1/ see also http://www.jirka.org/gdm-documentation/x1259.html for reference material on Graphical Greeter Themes.# |
| 22:48.44 | dpkg | nvz: OK |
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| 22:50.58 | NyteRukh | how does the dbian installer partition the hd locally or thru the net |
| 22:51.50 | nvz | dpkg, gdm themes =~ s#http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150#http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/ , http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150# |
| 22:51.50 | dpkg | nvz: OK |
| 22:51.53 | nvz | NyteRukh: locally of course |
| 22:52.26 | NyteRukh | k then how come it keeps rebooting while partitioning the hd...i even put a different one in. |
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| 22:53.18 | abrotman | because your ide controller is a pile of doggie doo ? |
| 22:53.26 | nvz | try being more vague so I can give you a dumb response |
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| 22:53.38 | *** part/#debian zTrope (n=zTrope@ool-4352c0fc.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:53.46 | nvz | nevermind abrotman beat me to it |
| 22:53.54 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:54.14 | Lilldude_ | trying to install dam samll i get error |
| 22:54.29 | nvz | thats damn small, and this is #debian |
| 22:54.36 | Lilldude_ | cool |
| 22:54.42 | nvz | not cool |
| 22:54.45 | nvz | shoe |
| 22:54.58 | abrotman | sock! |
| 22:55.01 | Lilldude_ | i get cant find knoppix error |
| 22:55.06 | NyteRukh | mmm |
| 22:55.07 | *** join/#debian floe (n=konversa@i577B02C0.versanet.de) |
| 22:55.18 | dondelelcaro | Lilldude_: none of that has anything to do with #debian at all... |
| 22:55.24 | abrotman | Lilldude_: this is not a channel that supports Damn Small Linux or Knoppix |
| 22:55.32 | Lilldude_ | ok |
| 22:56.33 | Lilldude_ | yeah isnt dam small debian bassed? |
| 22:56.41 | dondelelcaro | I am going to be removing ~91 lines of bans shortly. /ignore #debian MODES; or your client's equivalent is strongly encouraged. |
| 22:56.50 | dondelelcaro | Lilldude_: who cares? it's not Debian. |
| 22:57.02 | Lilldude_ | ok |
| 22:57.05 | *** part/#debian Oliver-Beograd (n=Gost@195.252.88.23) |
| 22:57.05 | phar0z | eu |
| 22:57.09 | *** join/#debian madclicker (n=Ondrash@206-248-137-43.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:57.25 | LightVision | Lilldude_: what can knoppix do that debian cant? :) so why not use Debian for it can do more |
| 22:57.35 | phar0z | :D |
| 22:57.47 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: hello, good morning :) |
| 22:57.51 | dondelelcaro | sup |
| 22:58.05 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 22:58.07 | dondelelcaro | *** UNBANNING BEGINS *** |
| 22:58.13 | abrotman | no STOP! |
| 22:58.16 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@p508BC5F9.dip.t-dialin.net *!*@pool-70-20-119-183.pitt.east.verizon.net *!*@CPE0080c6ea1e5c-CM0012253de026.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.17 | abrotman | ok .. carry on |
| 22:58.17 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: things are wet here in Sydney Australia :) other than that, things are great :) |
| 22:58.20 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@200.96.149.179 *!*@dsl081-071-172.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net *!*@219.95.84.133] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.21 | nvz | heh |
| 22:58.22 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@kkt.iks.ru *!*@200.207.81.173 *!*@213.180.126.99] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.25 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@65.201.194.116 *!*@dialup-4.225.180.230.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net *!*@bb219-74-16-194.singnet.com.sg] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.28 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@bb219-74-22-170.singnet.com.sg *!*@p549F38F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de *!*@dyn-83-156-203-54.ppp.tiscali.fr] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.31 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@12-217-159-91.client.mchsi.com *!*@201.22.211.46.adsl.gvt.net.br *!*@200.187.23.193] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.34 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@cpe-24-58-63-20.twcny.res.rr.com *!*@200.66.39.113 *!*@202.137.23.141] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.36 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@85.101.214.167 *!*@219.95.219.107 *!*@210.213.144.61] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.39 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@ccnat01.satxpress.net *!*@82.201.174.190 *!*@tdds-gw.Moscow.gldn.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.41 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@80.70.16.13 *!*@202.152.170.254 *!*@adsl-69-224-181-32.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.44 | *** join/#debian Rogue` (n=Tupac@rogueb0p.plus.com) |
| 22:58.44 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@219.95.140.154 *!*@60.49.148.166 *!*@cm66124.red.mundo-r.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.45 | LightVision | woohoo, this looks fun! :) |
| 22:58.47 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@210.213.140.68 *!*@83.230.235.138 *!*@ip123-51.cbn.net.id] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.49 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@83.103.165.231 *!*@202.153.240.185 *!*@85.186.18.17] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.52 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@85.186.87.5 *!*@62.29.102.9 *!*@203.115.158.213] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.54 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@83.103.165.217 *!*@212.156.189.194 *!*@adsl196-77-203-206-196.adsl196-7.iam.net.ma] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:58.57 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@ip124-220.cbn.net.id *!*@194.54.49.53 *!*@202.154.235.154] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.00 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@62.217.133.194 *!*@buddha.sv3.net.ua *!*@S01060050bf916deb.vf.shawcable.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 701] by debhelper |
| 22:59.02 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@62.162.209.127 *!*@ti112220a080-15594.bb.online.no *!*@210.5.111.119] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.05 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@202.150.80.206 *!*@203.215.95.95 *!*@210.1.87.30] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.07 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@210.213.153.88 *!*@p549330D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de *!*@s55932c5b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.10 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@ip70-178-64-118.ma.dl.cox.net *!*@209-112-222-134-cdsl-rb1.sol.acsalaska.net *!*@81.192.117.135] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.12 | *** join/#debian Stormbringer (n=Stormbri@101.192.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 22:59.13 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@207.226.20.175 *!*@210.213.212.236 *!*@toronto-HSE-ppp4324209.sympatico.ca] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.16 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@p548D5897.dip.t-dialin.net *!*@p5493191A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de *!*@ppp-48-007.atnr.ro] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.19 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@217.64.20.146 *!*@201.132.98.83 *!*@cable82a140.usuarios.retecal.es] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.21 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@acr-as3-14.cytanet.com.cy *!*@81.181.192.137 *!*@201.132.101.5] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.24 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@67.71.118.230 *!*@HSE-Montreal-ppp346269.sympatico.ca *!*@213.91.227.119] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.26 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@62.176.72.73 *!*@84.243.65.79 *!*@MTL-HSE-ppp190263.qc.sympatico.ca] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.29 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@2.51.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch *!*@adsl196-250-215-206-196.adsl196-7.iam.net.ma *!*@lyk-as2-191.cytanet.com.cy] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.32 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@AToulouse-152-1-7-22.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr *!*@62.162.243.88 *!*@c3eea0831.cable.wanadoo.nl] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.35 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@86.104.125.72 *!*@86.104.125.81 *!*@193.25.104.90] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.37 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@86.104.125.2 *!*@80.97.210.144 *!*@p5086688C.dip.t-dialin.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.40 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@193.230.222.151 *!*@184.245.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch *!*@83.222.186.132] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.41 | Rogue` | :o |
| 22:59.41 | resiak | abrotman: Hah. |
| 22:59.42 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@nsc69.38.18-226.newsouth.net *!*@86.34.125.34 *!*@62.248.50.241] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.45 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@213.152.71.202 *!*@82.79.182.133 *!*@82.77.188.164] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.47 | kadigibox | woh mass unbans |
| 22:59.47 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@66.197.48.29 *!*@d51A55860.access.telenet.be *!*@83.225.25.134] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.47 | LightVision | abrotman: hello, how you been? |
| 22:59.50 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@201009037185.user.veloxzone.com.br *!*@202.133.80.244 *!*@62.162.236.241] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.52 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@82.152.188.94 *!*@202.133.80.246 *!*@202.133.80.248] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.55 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@202.78.203.242 *!*@p5488E05C.dip.t-dialin.net *!*@tachev.ddns.HomeLan.BG] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:59.56 | LightVision | kadigibox: really? we didnt notice :P |
| 22:59.57 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@203.135.62.88 *!*@82.78.193.39 *!*@168.226.131.110] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@219.83.16.11 *!*@62.29.101.211 *!*@81.213.234.20] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.02 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@194.146.155.2 *!*@82.145.230.63 *!*@222.124.20.51] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.04 | abrotman | boring weekend .. stayed out of trouble :) |
| 23:00.05 | NyteRukh | k one more question |
| 23:00.05 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@86.105.29.113 *!*@80.97.17.77 *!*@81.181.186.6] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.05 | ryanakca | whats going on.... |
| 23:00.07 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@86.105.240.2 *!*@83.228.72.238 *!*@85.101.45.246] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.10 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@mihpanet-bt.botosani.rdsnet.ro *!*@80.97.106.165 *!*@ubr-cpe-108.pat-pool.nsad.sbb.co.y] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.13 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@home-213646.galati.astral.ro *!*@81.180.13.78 *!*@83.103.198.197] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.14 | RvGaTe | something is going wrong here |
| 23:00.15 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@85.97.187.193 *!*@85.186.206.65 *!*@81.196.191.34] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.16 | resiak | ryanakca: 23:56 dondelelcaro : I am going to be removing ~91 lines of bans shortly. /ignore #debian MODES; or your client's equivalent is strongly encouraged. |
| 23:00.16 | abrotman | ryanakca: op is undoing a large number of bans |
| 23:00.18 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@62.162.228.109 *!*@216-138-038-190.adams.net *!*@68.98.18.98] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.19 | ivan` | ryanakca, an evil op is removing all bans omg lolol |
| 23:00.20 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@81.198.93.117 *!*@213-140-6-121.ip.fastwebnet.it *!*@bl5-135-35.dsl.telepac.pt] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.22 | kadigibox | LightVision, I said it just for you. I didnt think you noticed |
| 23:00.23 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@gamestar.iseek.com.au *!*@58.163.136.32 *!*@210.22.80.74] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.24 | RvGaTe | !mods look at this please, whats going on? |
| 23:00.24 | astronut | woah |
| 23:00.26 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@202.152.26.26 *!*@202.83.78.17 *!*@203.131.92.13] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.28 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@dialup-4.234.33.210.Dial1.Miami1.Level3.net *!*@dialup-4.234.90.124.Dial1.Miami1.Level3.net *!*@194.116.195.25] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.28 | caphuso | RvGaTe: dumbass |
| 23:00.30 | LightVision | kadigibox: heeh ;) |
| 23:00.31 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@200.24.127.19 *!*@host92.200-45-148.telecom.net.ar *!*@12-220-231-186.client.insightBB.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.31 | astronut | dondelelcaro: lots of messages |
| 23:00.33 | resiak | RvGaTe: Scroll up, you fool. |
| 23:00.33 | abrotman | RvGaTe: DONT |
| 23:00.33 | ryanakca | ok |
| 23:00.34 | *** join/#debian jmspeex (n=jmspeex@idefix.CeNTIE.NET.au) |
| 23:00.34 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@62.162.14.48 *!*@cpe-24-31-179-173.columbus.res.rr.com *!*@194.165.133.210] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.37 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@adsl-68-255-70-192.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net *!*@81.213.229.62 *!*@cpe-24-208-247-116.twmi.res.rr.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.40 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@208.254.143.55 *!*@210.213.89.249 *!*@029.a.003.pth.iprimus.net.au] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.41 | *** join/#debian iapaiiou (n=satuooy@d80-170-8-114.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 23:00.42 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@c-24-7-40-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net *!*@adsl-68-92-55-232.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net *!*@81-178-13-208.dsl.pipex.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.45 | jdhutchin1 | RvGaTe, dondelelcaro is a mod |
| 23:00.45 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@216-55-132-174.dedicated.cedant.com *!*@lns-vlq-25-ren-82-254-139-184.adsl.proxad.net *!*@adsl-68-91-101-12.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.48 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@200.93.150.182 *!*@p54A13EB0.dip.t-dialin.net *!*@c-24-98-181-122.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.49 | caphuso | geez, who let's those people on IRC? |
| 23:00.50 | *** part/#debian iapaiiou (n=satuooy@d80-170-8-114.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 23:00.51 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@213.186.176.89 *!*@dsl-47-161.nas.com *!*@69.88.3.141] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.54 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@n219078222206.netvigator.com *!*@n219079050055.netvigator.com *!*@cpe-24-90-4-220.nyc.res.rr.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.55 | kadigibox | LightVision, my appologies if you did notice and I was just pointing the ovious to you |
| 23:00.56 | NyteRukh | gonna do a netinstall the box will go thru this box to the net anything special i got to do..for the dhcp |
| 23:00.57 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@adsl-68-88-20-32.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net *!*@195.142.137.168 *!*@210-246-0-9.paradise.net.nz] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.58 | RvGaTe | sorry guys, :S |
| 23:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@bspark2dsl.claranet.co.uk *!*@adsl-68-74-106-242.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net *!*@customer-192.143.livas.lv] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.03 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@gw5.m-lan.ru *!*@216-138-43-178.adams.net *!*@host09.nerunet.airotech.c2pro.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.04 | resiak | caphuso: Geez, who let's these people speak English? :) |
| 23:01.05 | don_inlab | you know, you could read what I said earlier, and /ignore #debian MODES; |
| 23:01.06 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@200.92.67.63 *!*@toronto-HSD-ppp4059632.sympatico.ca *!*@toronto-HSE-ppp4059632.sympatico.ca] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.09 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@12.155.48.178 *!*@210.213.141.219 *!*@210.5.111.171] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.11 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@67.71.25.21 *!*@ipdial-181-158.tri-isys.com *!*@roerbak.student.utwente.nl] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.14 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb *!*@83.228.23.1 *!*@218.212.49.162 %*!*@62-15-97-226.inversas.jazztel.es] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.16 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@203.115.160.128 %*!*@a83-132-101-228.cpe.netcabo.pt %*!*@81.222.177.1] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.18 | don_inlab | (or whatever your client's equivalent is |
| 23:01.19 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@193.108.103.89 %*!*@p54A86DA3.dip.t-dialin.net %*!*@p508BE9C5.dip.t-dialin.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.20 | abrotman | yay |
| 23:01.21 | ivan` | heh IRC is a stupid protocol announcing all unbans |
| 23:01.22 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@219.95.100.204 %*!*@203.87.177.150 %*!*@adsl-69-234-147-10.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.25 | *** join/#debian liable (n=linux@203-49-184-167.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 23:01.25 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@bb219-74-24-116.singnet.com.sg %*!*@bb219-74-16-194.singnet.com.sg %*!*@bb219-74-23-117.singnet.com.sg] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.28 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@203.168.9.97 %*!*@bb219-74-23-149.singnet.com.sg %*!*@Toronto-HSE-ppp3921244.sympatico.ca] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.29 | caphuso | don_inlab: that wouldn't be the #debian sunday way ;-) |
| 23:01.31 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@ip503d4396.speed.planet.nl %*!*@218.76.233.191 %*!*@eacb01-00-gwntga-69-164-235-110.atlaga.adelphia.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.34 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@85.99.214.153 %*!*@201.236.16.42 %*!*@pool-70-111-47-146.nwrk.east.verizon.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.35 | abrotman | sussudio: hehe |
| 23:01.37 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@bb219-74-25-145.singnet.com.sg %*!*@warlurdz.net %*!*@132.248.90.253] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.39 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@58.163.134.153 %*!*@host81-154-142-92.range81-154.btcentralplus.com %*!*@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.42 | kadigibox | I never seen so many bans before |
| 23:01.42 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@pool-71-108-136-53.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net %*!*@c-67-161-203-243.hsd1.co.comcast.net %*!*@071.a.001lg.syd.iprimus.net.au] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.43 | resiak | ivan`: No, you are stupid for ignoring the suggestion to /ignore them temporarily. |
| 23:01.46 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@bal-broadband2-ws-208.dsl.airstreamcomm.net %*!*@m815f36d0.tmodns.net %*!*@ip68-224-126-226.lv.lv.cox.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.48 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@d21.tipp-topp.co.yu %*!*@202.95.133.142 %*!*@ool-18be3986.dyn.optonline.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.51 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@189.minneapolis-01rh15-16rt.mn.dial-access.att.net %*!*@forum.pikenet.ru %*!*@217.15.48.38] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.53 | ivan` | resiak, my client doesn't support it |
| 23:01.54 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net %*!*@p508BC58B.dip.t-dialin.net %*!*@cpc1-stev1-3-1-cust58.lutn.cable.ntl.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.58 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@pcp01039936pcs.mtdra01.fl.comcast.net %*!*@68-184-158-168.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com %*!*@d5152B1F3.access.telenet.be] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:01.59 | resiak | ivan`: Then your client is shite. |
| 23:02.01 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@82.198.111.215 %*!*@ip44-163-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl %*!*@host67.200-43-199.telecom.net.ar] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:02.01 | ivan` | nope |
| 23:02.03 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@202.153.240.134 %*!*@64.39.162.248 %*!*@60.48.90.242] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:02.04 | ivan` | it's pretty awesome |
| 23:02.05 | caphuso | ivan`: then use one that isn't completely shit |
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| 23:02.13 | liable | woah, whats the ban list full? |
| 23:02.14 | resiak | ivan`: It clearly is not even vaguely awesome. |
| 23:02.15 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %*!*@c-24-2-69-204.hsd1.ut.comcast.net %*!*@85.137.144.153 %*!*@69-161-101-250.bflony.adelphia.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:02.15 | abrotman | unban fieldy! :) |
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| 23:02.21 | RvGaTe | is there any reason for the unbans? |
| 23:02.23 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@host-87-74-16-26.bulldogdsl.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:02.28 | ivan` | resiak, if you haven't used it it must suck |
| 23:02.29 | caphuso | HydraIRC... OMFG |
| 23:02.31 | abrotman | RvGaTe: they take 'space' |
| 23:02.36 | resiak | *plonk!* |
| 23:02.47 | ivan` | this isn't usenet |
| 23:02.47 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:02.48 | ryanakca | yay! |
| 23:02.57 | *** part/#debian Stormbringer (n=Stormbri@101.192.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 23:02.58 | ryanakca | its done! |
| 23:03.03 | kadigibox | are we done now? |
| 23:03.10 | sussudio | well, at least kawfeh is still in there |
| 23:03.18 | caphuso | that's the one IRC client that rivals the bitchx programmers |
| 23:03.18 | RvGaTe | abrotman: mkay.. what about all the bots that got banned, they will be coming back.. ? or is it a selected unban? |
| 23:03.19 | liable | heh |
| 23:03.22 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: fieldy will never be unbanned? |
| 23:03.22 | dondelelcaro | you can /unignore #debian modes; if you had ignored it |
| 23:03.27 | abrotman | RvGaTe: hopefully not |
| 23:03.29 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: not in the near future, no |
| 23:03.38 | LightVision | abrotman: it seems your ban was removed :) |
| 23:03.44 | abrotman | but i did see jetscreamer's IP i think .. yay :) |
| 23:03.56 | LightVision | abrotman: who is fieldy? |
| 23:04.05 | liable | why did fieldy get banned? |
| 23:04.15 | abrotman | LightVision: fieldySnuts .. |
| 23:04.17 | caphuso | liable: because we can't shoot him |
| 23:04.20 | abrotman | liable: care to guess? :) |
| 23:04.36 | LightVision | if dondelelcaro banned him, there must be a really good reason for it |
| 23:04.48 | abrotman | i don't think don did .. but i oculd be wrong |
| 23:04.50 | Lilldude_ | hello liable |
| 23:04.54 | dondelelcaro | if you're abusive, you're going to get banned. There's not much to it. |
| 23:05.14 | dondelelcaro | If you can't deal with someone, use /ignore instead of abusing them |
| 23:05.15 | RvGaTe | somehow, i feel bored again.. pff |
| 23:05.16 | liable | oh please.. |
| 23:05.19 | LightVision | abrotman: do you still take proscar? |
| 23:05.22 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: what if i asked to be abused? :) |
| 23:05.29 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: do it somewhere else... |
| 23:05.42 | resiak | abrotman: Let's get a room^Wchannel. |
| 23:05.42 | RvGaTe | abrotman: #abuseme |
| 23:05.46 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: a by-the-hour hotel room eh? :) |
| 23:05.56 | jair | how can I chnage my password in nickserv? for freenode? |
| 23:05.59 | LightVision | abrotman: you used to abuse me daily, but then you stopped :) |
| 23:06.02 | caphuso | jair: /msg nickserv help |
| 23:06.04 | dondelelcaro | #debian-ot or some other channel is probably appropriate |
| 23:06.19 | abrotman | we don't abuse each other! |
| 23:06.25 | resiak | abrotman: You lie. |
| 23:06.31 | RvGaTe | i second that |
| 23:06.33 | jair | caphuso, I tryed that do no tell me anything about change password |
| 23:06.34 | abrotman | fluffle hurts! |
| 23:06.59 | LightVision | abrotman: you used to abuse me every single day for 3 weeks. but then you stopped last week, and all is good :) |
| 23:07.10 | dondelelcaro | jair: /msg nickserv help set password |
| 23:07.12 | abrotman | i can start again if you like :) |
| 23:07.45 | jair | dondelelcaro, ok thank you |
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| 23:08.18 | dondelelcaro | kadigibox: ? |
| 23:08.29 | kadigibox | dondelelcaro, ? |
| 23:08.44 | LightVision | abrotman: NO, thanks :) |
| 23:10.00 | ryanakca | how can you tell wich version of debian you are running, ex: potato, woody, sarge, etch, etc? |
| 23:10.15 | dondelelcaro | ryanakca: cat /etc/debian_version; apt-cache policy; |
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| 23:11.04 | ryanakca | ty |
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| 23:11.32 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: is all that one command? we type "cat /etc/debian_version; apt-cache policy;" ? |
| 23:11.53 | jair | dondelelcaro, thank you very much it works |
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| 23:12.48 | dondelelcaro | LightVision: try it and see. |
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| 23:13.01 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: I did, great command :) |
| 23:13.12 | LightVision | :) |
| 23:13.19 | Squarepants | anyone has a debian splash screen for grub? |
| 23:14.11 | LightVision | how can I install the latest firefox on Sarge? |
| 23:14.44 | liable | is firefox in volatile? |
| 23:15.03 | dondelelcaro | the latest actual release has been basically backported to fix a security problem |
| 23:15.13 | lemur | can someone explain to me more about this "volatile"? |
| 23:15.23 | dondelelcaro | !volatile |
| 23:15.23 | dpkg | i guess volatile is debian-volatile, a project aiming to gather fast moving targets in an own "release" system. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.net/ |
| 23:15.23 | liable | lemur: yes google can. |
| 23:15.28 | lemur | fair enough |
| 23:15.45 | lemur | sup don |
| 23:15.52 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 23:19.34 | lemur | there are no volatile repositories in the US? |
| 23:19.43 | JohnTitor | hi |
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| 23:20.17 | me_here | Squarepant: me! |
| 23:20.56 | me_here | Squarepants: biosplash.xpm.gz |
| 23:21.07 | Squarepants | er.. hi me_here |
| 23:21.34 | me_here | Squarepants: hi, why do you ask, don't you have splashimages in grub ? |
| 23:23.46 | Squarepants | i have one from mepis, but i'd prefer one made for debian ;p |
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| 23:24.20 | me_here | Squarepants: if you have debian at hand, you should get some if you install the package grub-splashimages |
| 23:24.25 | liable | Squarepants: trust me, its not worth the hassle, how often do you boot it anyway? |
| 23:24.38 | liable | !splashy |
| 23:24.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, splashy is a basic userspace bootsplash package which is currently in experimental but works in sarge all right. |
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| 23:25.43 | Rogue` | one day, im gonna look through my log of this chan and learn allot of stuff :D |
| 23:26.21 | Squarepants | several times per day, and i am using knoppix (installed), dont have a debian distro cd |
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| 23:26.46 | me_here | Squarepants: do you have apt available on knoppix ? |
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| 23:26.57 | Squarepants | yes |
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| 23:27.47 | me_here | Squarepants: and do you boot with grub ? |
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| 23:27.58 | Squarepants | yes |
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| 23:28.29 | me_here | Squarepants: then you can get the grub-splashimages package! what's the problem? |
| 23:28.55 | me_here | Squarepants: you don't have sources.list? |
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| 23:29.44 | nipra | help plz...when log into debian after enterin my user name and password ,i get a blue screen with a cursor.i'm not able to boot into graphical desktop. |
| 23:29.49 | quittt | Sep 25 19:52:12 localhost kernel: psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away. |
| 23:29.49 | quittt | Sep 25 19:54:58 localhost kernel: psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - bad parity |
| 23:29.49 | Squarepants | i am new |
| 23:29.50 | quittt | Sep 25 19:54:58 localhost last message repeated 379 times |
| 23:29.55 | quittt | what may be causing this? |
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| 23:30.35 | me_here | Squarepant: then read on in the manual for apt (man apt) in knoppix, i think you'll find some useful info therein |
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| 23:33.19 | powadha | hola |
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| 23:33.50 | ryanakca | is there a way to install php5 using apt? |
| 23:33.50 | NyteRukh | dom da dee |
| 23:34.14 | me_here | quittt: maybe you have the false drivers or the false /dev devices specified for your mouse |
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| 23:34.20 | resiak | !tell ryanakca -about php5 |
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| 23:35.02 | quittt | me_here, or my mouse is just broken |
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| 23:35.34 | ryanakca | ok, can you install unstable packages on stable... ie, add the debian unstable repository to apt |
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| 23:35.48 | CrippsFX | alright, I'm trying to figure out how to set up my reg user account so that when I plug in my usb thumb drive, it will automatically mount it, and put an icon on the desktop. Can anyone help me do this, or point me to the right documents? |
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| 23:36.32 | me_here | quittt: lol, maybe that too, but you can check this first by feeding you X server with alternate mouse drivers (protocols etc.) and then testing it awhile, if noone will work then it's your mouse |
| 23:36.50 | quittt | it is the same thing in Windows |
| 23:36.59 | quittt | again it stopped |
| 23:37.30 | quittt | it stopped |
| 23:37.31 | quittt | again |
| 23:37.33 | me_here | quittt: then the probability that your mouse is defect is high |
| 23:37.41 | quittt | fuck this mouse |
| 23:37.42 | me_here | quittt: what mouse do you have ? |
| 23:37.52 | quittt | Genius |
| 23:37.59 | quittt | PS |
| 23:38.03 | me_here | quittt: some very new ? usb ? ps/2 |
| 23:38.06 | me_here | ah |
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| 23:38.11 | Guerin | quittt: have I been telling you to get a new mouse for about three days? |
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| 23:38.16 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.23 | quittt | Guerin, you said to buy a USB |
| 23:38.27 | quittt | USB mouse |
| 23:38.30 | quittt | not a new mouse |
| 23:38.34 | me_here | quittt: get a usb mouse |
| 23:38.45 | Guerin | quittt: since you don't HAVE a mouse, a usb mouse would necessarily be new. |
| 23:38.57 | Guerin | and usb mice are superior to ps/2 in all respects |
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| 23:39.15 | resiak | Guerin: Except for working in machines with no usb ports. |
| 23:39.32 | Guerin | resiak: in which case you use the supplied usb->ps/2 adaptor |
| 23:39.40 | resiak | Guerin: Heh. *waves* |
| 23:39.46 | liable | yes, you need a good pair of pliers to get it to fit into the ps2 port.. :) |
| 23:39.54 | CrippsFX | any ideas? any at all? |
| 23:39.58 | Ether_Man | Guerin: And why spend the extra money for an usb mouse if he aint supposed to use it? |
| 23:40.29 | Guerin | Ether_Man: because a usb mouse isn't any more expensive than a ps/2 in this day and age, so the extra money is approximately 0? |
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| 23:41.02 | Azar | question: if someone fucks really bad during kernel upgrade, x-server install , nvidia setup and desktop installation, is there any means to go back and redo the sequence, or an install from scratch will be better? |
| 23:41.03 | webfreak | just get the freaking usb mouse and stop questioning the logic behind it already. |
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| 23:41.20 | Ether_Man | Guerin: Not if he's supposed to buy a usb->ps2 converter as well... |
| 23:41.28 | nipra | help plz...when log into debian after enterin my user name and password ,i get a blue screen with a cursor.i'm not able to boot into graphical desktop. |
| 23:41.36 | CompWizrd | every usb mouse i've bought lately came with a usb-ps2 converter |
| 23:41.40 | CompWizrd | preconnected, even |
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| 23:41.42 | webfreak | Ether_Man: most usb mice have a converter with them |
| 23:41.43 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:41.45 | Guerin | Ether_Man: i have never, not once, seen a usb mouse which didn't come with a ps/2 converter. |
| 23:42.00 | webfreak | someone's obviously still living in the ps/2 stone age |
| 23:42.01 | CompWizrd | microsoft's mice have it plugged into the adapter arleady, i have a small pile of green adapters in a drawer on my desk |
| 23:42.05 | Fuko | Hi there. I was trying to install gnome and I got a problem. It says that I need remove e2fsprogs in order to install gnome. How can I get true this? (seems something bad) |
| 23:42.14 | LightVision | webfreak: whats a ps/2? :) |
| 23:42.15 | Guerin | !e2fsprogs |
| 23:42.16 | CompWizrd | at least he's not trying to get a usb mouse to work in a serial port |
| 23:42.18 | delire | anyone here know which distribution uses a /sysdeps or /usr/sysdeps ? i'm working through a complex makefile here and see regular references to this. |
| 23:42.22 | Guerin | bah |
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| 23:42.30 | Ether_Man | Actually.. I havnt seen any usb mouse the last two years that HAS had a ps2 converter with it.. but guess that differs from place to place ^_^; |
| 23:42.30 | CompWizrd | i had someone at work try to do that |
| 23:42.31 | webfreak | dpkg: tell LightVision about ps2 |
| 23:42.52 | liable | Fuko: you trying to upgrade from woody to sid or something? |
| 23:43.02 | me_here | Fuko: force e2fsprogs to be removed like apt-get remove e2fsprogs then continue upgrading or installing |
| 23:43.15 | emRick | How can I display a raw man page? (I have a Debian source package which I'm not going to install.) |
| 23:43.36 | Fuko | liable:yeah kinda... |
| 23:43.37 | delire | emRick: if less has *.gz support, just use that or zcat |
| 23:43.42 | me_here | Fuko: had the same problem once, and nothing would install before i get rid of e2fsprogs |
| 23:43.49 | dondelelcaro | emRick: man ./foo/bar/baz.1.gz |
| 23:43.50 | powadha | Fuko: doing a clean install? |
| 23:43.52 | Guerin | zless |
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| 23:44.02 | Guerin | alias less=zless |
| 23:44.05 | liable | Fuko: upgrade to sarge first, then go from there.. |
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| 23:44.45 | Fuko | Okay I will try all those..:) (this ircii is hard:p) |
| 23:44.49 | Azar | Fuko install aptitude while on woody, then go for SArge with aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 23:45.02 | me_here | delire: zcat, zmore and zless ??? |
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| 23:45.03 | emRick | dondelelcaro/delire: tnx |
| 23:45.05 | caphuso | eval $(lessfile) |
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| 23:45.11 | webfreak | delire: i actually just tried to run zlez ;( |
| 23:45.17 | delire | me_here: good but just not as funny |
| 23:45.18 | webfreak | accidentally that is |
| 23:45.23 | delire | webfreak: ;) |
| 23:45.25 | Fuko | xit |
| 23:45.31 | caphuso | you can even less .deb/.tar.gz/.png/... files |
| 23:45.44 | LightVision | whats the difference between volatile and backports? |
| 23:45.44 | krassy1809 | how i can enable ip forwarding from konsole ? |
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| 23:45.56 | Guerin | LightVision: read about them. |
| 23:46.00 | me_here | krassy1809: with sysctl |
| 23:46.07 | LightVision | webfreak: thanks, I thought it was a playstation |
| 23:46.08 | Guerin | krassy1809: aptitude install ipmasq |
| 23:46.16 | LightVision | !backports |
| 23:46.16 | dpkg | somebody said backport was a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 23:46.33 | Guerin | !tell LightVision about message the bots |
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| 23:46.37 | Ether_Man | webfreak: I never said that usb mice isnt better usually.. But to tell someone to buy one without knowing if they actually HAVE a ps/2 port is stupid.. Given I didnt know that other countries gave away the converters together with the mouse for here they certainly dont.. |
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| 23:46.55 | Ether_Man | *an USB port |
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| 23:48.15 | krassy1809 | which file i need to edit to enable ip forwarding ? |
| 23:48.36 | emRick | !tell emRick about message the bots |
| 23:48.37 | delire | krassy1809: you do that on your router no? |
| 23:49.07 | krassy1809 | yes on my router |
| 23:49.10 | liable | krassy1809: do what Guerin said.. |
| 23:49.56 | delire | krassy1809: well there is no 'file' on your router as such. do you have a web administration page for it? if so check there for the relevant interface. |
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| 23:50.16 | delire | s/interface/page |
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| 23:51.39 | madclicker | where can i get cdrdao package for amd64? |
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| 23:52.10 | Azar | when installing woody, apt is downloading and installing stuff... how can I avoid this so to get the chance first to edit the /sources.list before downloading anything? |
| 23:52.17 | liable | who killed dpkg? |
| 23:52.27 | dashdmcc | are there packages for debain for the openoffice 2 betas |
| 23:52.32 | Azar | liable give me a workaround, please |
| 23:52.33 | Guerin | Azar: it needs to install base. Just let it. |
| 23:52.37 | Guerin | dashdmcc: no. |
| 23:52.55 | Azar | Guerin, I cannot, it will install Sarge stuff.. since woody has in sources "stable" |
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| 23:53.08 | adrakoa | hi |
| 23:53.10 | Guerin | Azar: oh. |
| 23:53.13 | me_here | dashdmcc: get the sources and compile |
| 23:53.13 | liable | Azar: why dont you stop using that old woody cd, and get a net installer? |
| 23:53.31 | Azar | liable, the net installer did not work |
| 23:53.45 | liable | Azar: you can uplug your ethernet.. |
| 23:53.45 | Azar | sorry to say this but maybe it is my machine |
| 23:53.48 | Guerin | Azar: use a woody netinstaller, which will install base from cd, |
| 23:53.56 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 23:54.20 | Azar | cool thanks, do I need to use all 7 disks or the 1st one is enough? |
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| 23:54.54 | Azar | .. I guess is left to be seen |
| 23:55.13 | me_here | i'm soo happy not to use cd installs anymore, lol |
| 23:55.15 | metaperl | all together now... 1, 2, 3... I LOVE DEBIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:55.26 | azeem | Azar: you need the ~ 128 MB netinstall ISO |
| 23:55.33 | me_here | I LOVE DEBIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:55.35 | Rogue` | I LUB DEBIAN |
| 23:55.38 | ke6isf | Ah, new Debian addicts. =^_^= |
| 23:55.43 | Guerin | Azar: you only need the netinstall. Woody will install base, then you can tell it to stop, change your sources to 'oldstable' and go from there. |
| 23:55.55 | Guerin | Azar: though why you'r einstalling woody is beyond me. |
| 23:56.31 | me_here | Guerin: once i installed woody too, had a dvd from a pc magazine with it |
| 23:56.48 | Guerin | me_here: no good reason to not want sarge, though. |
| 23:57.01 | me_here | Guerin: but i am on sarge :) |
| 23:57.12 | SteveLab | metaperl: no fair I wasn't ready |
| 23:57.19 | me_here | Guerin: though im goin to etch |
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| 23:57.27 | metaperl | SteveLab: shall we try again? you lead this time. |
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| 23:57.39 | Rogue` | I LUB DEBIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 23:57.45 | metaperl | we really need to take time out to give some thanks for such a wonderful distro.... |
| 23:57.46 | SteveLab | metaperl: I can't lead, I'm a president |
| 23:58.01 | Rogue` | oops, topo early? :/ |
| 23:58.01 | metaperl | I luuuuuuuv Debian... |
| 23:58.09 | Rogue` | -p |
| 23:58.14 | metaperl | ok Rogue you lead |
| 23:58.17 | CrippsFX | okay, I upgraded from the default 2.4.x kernel to a 2.6.x kernel. and now when I boot into the new kernel, I can't access the internet. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this problem? |
| 23:58.21 | Rogue` | :O |
| 23:58.29 | metaperl | CrippsFX: what does ifconfig -a say? |
| 23:58.33 | Rogue` | I LOVE DEBIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? |
| 23:58.38 | metaperl | no, like tihs: |
| 23:58.39 | metaperl | 1 |
| 23:58.41 | metaperl | 2 |
| 23:58.42 | metaperl | 3 |
| 23:58.43 | ke6isf | metaperl: We do too, that's why we're here. |
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| 23:58.56 | CrippsFX | ifconfig -a ... hold on ... I'll use another machine and boot this one into the old kernel so I can do this. be back in a minute. |
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| 23:59.16 | metaperl | my boss spent 1.5 days compiling FreeBSD KDE from scratch.. it was funny... all the time I was thinking: in Debian I would've been done in 1 hour max |
| 23:59.30 | me_here | CrippsFX: prolly you have to add the default route by hand, do a route -v and look if you have some link to your router |
| 23:59.34 | LightVision | dpkg: tell webfreak about kde |
| 23:59.38 | metaperl | Rogue`: just watch the 1 and the 2 go by... then type |
| 23:59.50 | metaperl | 1... |
| 23:59.52 | metaperl | 2... |
| 23:59.58 | Rogue` | I LOVE DEBIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:59.58 | metaperl | i lvoe debian |
| 23:59.58 | SteveLab | I LOVE DEBIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
