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| 00:00.49 | dondelelcaro | manbox: set iocharset= in the fstab options field; man mount; man fstab; for details. |
| 00:00.52 | magyar | How can i tell the kernel not to load piix module? |
| 00:00.54 | daniminas | can i put to work a paralel por webcam? |
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| 00:01.26 | Azar | hmm created in 01-05-2002 |
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| 00:01.39 | abrotman | Azar: you installed sarge then!?!? |
| 00:01.50 | abrotman | we got spammed again!~ |
| 00:01.52 | Azar | abrotman, I upgraded to sarge 2 months ago |
| 00:02.12 | Azar | and I clearly remember I never created no directory/files on my user account |
| 00:02.34 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: it's a C# keylogger |
| 00:02.43 | Azar | solbo, that is not nice, stop it |
| 00:03.11 | manbox | dondelelcaro, thanks man |
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| 00:04.39 | Azar | might I have done something stupid to get /bin in /home/user? |
| 00:05.10 | abrotman | Azar: it's not a bad thing .. what's in it ? |
| 00:05.31 | magyar | How can i tell the kernel not to load "piix" module? |
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| 00:05.45 | Azar | abrotman, all regular commands programs: cp, ls, chmod, kill, ping, rm... some 60 of them |
| 00:05.48 | daniminas | somebody know if webcams in parports have support? |
| 00:05.53 | abrotman | !tell magyar about blacklist |
| 00:06.06 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:06.06 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 00:06.18 | LightVision | abrotman: really? backports.org is ONLY for woody? i didnt know that |
| 00:06.19 | golly | hey |
| 00:06.25 | Azar | is it safe to have the /bin in user? |
| 00:06.29 | LightVision | abrotman: is there a backports website for Sarge? |
| 00:06.45 | abrotman | LightVision: well .. i'm not going to say only .. but from a quick glance .. everything there is older than what's in sarge .. give it a few weeks .. i'm sure it will change |
| 00:06.46 | magyar | thanks abrotman, did i mention you rock |
| 00:06.49 | magyar | now i do |
| 00:06.51 | magyar | :) |
| 00:07.01 | golly | hey spermite...you here? |
| 00:07.11 | abrotman | magyar: you're welcome :) |
| 00:07.38 | abrotman | we get two ops from #mepis ? |
| 00:07.39 | manbox | dondelelcaro, the only given iocharset value is iso8859-1, how do i change it? what's it called..? |
| 00:07.59 | golly | hey all.......anyone know anything about mdadm raid setup? |
| 00:08.10 | Azar | the tutorial say: : If you've just installed Debian, your home directory may well be empty. If your present working directory is empty, ls will not show anything on the screen. I remember clearly it used to be empty.. |
| 00:08.12 | abrotman | oh .. not .. nm |
| 00:08.16 | daniminas | join #ubuntu-es |
| 00:08.24 | abrotman | it's /join |
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| 00:08.41 | abrotman | golly: using mepis ? |
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| 00:08.53 | dondelelcaro | manbox: well, you really should know the right charset; for most people, the sensible ones are iso8859-1 or utf-8 |
| 00:09.01 | Azar | daniminas escribe esto: /join #unbutu-es |
| 00:09.06 | dondelelcaro | s/utf-8/utf8/ |
| 00:09.29 | Azar | err ubuntu |
| 00:09.35 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:09.38 | Azar | I never got the correct name for that distro |
| 00:10.09 | Azar | so should I move /bin back to root? |
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| 00:10.19 | abrotman | Azar: is it the real /bin ? |
| 00:10.27 | Azar | abrotman it looks like |
| 00:10.28 | abrotman | mentor: off and on |
| 00:10.34 | Azar | hmm checking from root |
| 00:10.38 | mentor | more than usual? |
| 00:10.39 | abrotman | Azar: is it a softlink ? |
| 00:10.45 | abrotman | mentor: not in the last hour or so |
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| 00:11.13 | abrotman | C&C music factory .... |
| 00:11.27 | jbroome | sweat till you bleed |
| 00:11.43 | abrotman | we're all dorks!! |
| 00:12.04 | Azar | is same in root as in user\ |
| 00:12.18 | Azar | Links: 2 |
| 00:12.23 | Azar | it might be a link |
| 00:12.31 | abrotman | ls -l ~ |
| 00:12.53 | stew | LightVision: if you read the news on backports, they say they will have firefox packages soon |
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| 00:13.04 | comex | Does anyone know what this means?: undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)@GLIBCXX_3.4' |
| 00:13.15 | Azar | total 4 |
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| 00:13.37 | JuanCraft | hi |
| 00:13.39 | Azar | drwxr-xr-x azar azar 4096 Jan 5 2002 bin |
| 00:13.43 | abrotman | comex: what are you trying to compile ? |
| 00:13.46 | JuanCraft | i have a problem... somebody can help me? |
| 00:13.55 | abrotman | Azar: you made it 3 years ago ... |
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| 00:14.07 | JuanCraft | the problem its when i try to load a module for my ethernet card, i get the following error. |
| 00:14.23 | Azar | abrotman, :) the install of woody was done 4 months ago, as the sarge upgrade |
| 00:14.24 | CosmoDad | can anyone explain to me what a "native debian package" is? |
| 00:14.27 | JuanCraft | via-rhine: Reset not complete yet trying harder |
| 00:14.30 | stew | comex: what are you strying to do? |
| 00:14.35 | abrotman | Azar: and you restored your home dir ? |
| 00:14.39 | JuanCraft | invalid MAC address for card #0 |
| 00:14.40 | comex | abrotman: avifile |
| 00:14.47 | abrotman | CosmoDad: native how ? |
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| 00:15.02 | comex | Actually, I'm confused about the whole thing: A lot of things are giving me errors about needing slang1, when only libslang1 is available. |
| 00:15.10 | abrotman | comex: are you on sid ? |
| 00:15.11 | Azar | abrotman, no reinstalled from scratch |
| 00:15.14 | stew | CosmoDad: a package for which there is no upstream source, the upstream source contains the debian/ directory. you can tell a debian native package becuase it has no debian revision in the versoin, like 1.0.2 instead of 1.0.2-1 (-1 is the debian revision) |
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| 00:15.18 | abrotman | Azar: that's quite odd |
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| 00:15.28 | JuanCraft | hi... |
| 00:15.30 | sk4b | hello, some years ago, I remember redhat had this install mode, one was able to install a whole system on top of a FAT32 partition, windows would see it as a contigiious file, from there on one could chose lilo ( back then ) or a flooppy to select which OS toboot from. my question is, does the current stable installer for Sarge has something like this? |
| 00:15.33 | stew | CosmoDad: err, skip the "no upstream source" part |
| 00:15.35 | JuanCraft | please help me!!! |
| 00:15.40 | Azar | abrotman yes indeed, it might have been something I done and did not payed attention |
| 00:15.45 | comex | abrotman: Yes, I think. |
| 00:15.49 | abrotman | Azar: but /bin exists and works ? |
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| 00:15.55 | CosmoDad | stew: could you name an example? |
| 00:15.59 | abrotman | comex: maybe your app doesn't compile correctly with gcc4 |
| 00:16.05 | Azar | JuanCraft, the 2.6.x kernel has a bug: do not recognize your ethernet driver |
| 00:16.13 | stew | CosmoDad: base-config |
| 00:16.23 | Azar | JuanCraft try installing with 2.4.x kernel then upgrade kernel afterwards |
| 00:16.27 | comex | abrotman: I did ln -fs gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc (although that's probably the wrong way to do it) and make cleaned, and it gave me the same error |
| 00:16.29 | abrotman | sk4b: not that i know of .. check the install guidce |
| 00:16.30 | abrotman | !ig |
| 00:16.30 | dpkg | i guess ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 00:16.31 | JuanCraft | Azar: but its not only on 2.6, y try with 2.4 and nothing. |
| 00:16.36 | CosmoDad | stew: hm, what about mplayer? it comes with a debian/ directory too. Does this make it a native package already? |
| 00:16.37 | stew | CosmoDad: its generally for something that is in no way usefull outside of debian, (like not even dpkg or apt are packaged as debian native) |
| 00:16.51 | Azar | JUanCraft then you might not setup your connection correctly at installation |
| 00:16.53 | abrotman | comex: i'd ask the peoople who wrote the software |
| 00:17.04 | abrotman | comex: ls -l `which gcc` |
| 00:17.11 | CosmoDad | stew: so I suppose mplayer is non-native then |
| 00:17.21 | abrotman | god damn blue jays |
| 00:17.30 | JuanCraft | Azar: but the card works fine in another pc. and the only diff its the mainboard and proc. |
| 00:17.31 | stew | CosmoDad: some upstream authors include a debian/ directory if they have attempted packaging, but that doens't make it native necessarily |
| 00:17.47 | abrotman | or correct/functional |
| 00:17.50 | sk4b | abrotman: I did,they dont mention anything like that, was wondering maybe a non standard trick or perhaps pointers to some places/links dunno. |
| 00:17.53 | CosmoDad | stew: ok thanks |
| 00:18.09 | JuanCraft | Azar: i have a GBF865 Intel Mainboard, and i trying with diferents ethernet cards |
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| 00:18.13 | Azar | JuanCraft when it comes to Sarge installer I am totally in the dark, I never used it, I upgraded from woody |
| 00:18.24 | daniminas | somebody know if webcams in parports have support? |
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| 00:18.27 | abrotman | sk4b: i haven't seen any such thing .. you could inquire in #debian-boot .. but they might all be sleeping |
| 00:18.38 | Azar | JuanCraft try another OS see if it works, pinpoint the issue |
| 00:18.45 | abrotman | daniminas: stop repeating |
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| 00:19.06 | JuanCraft | Azar: lol... windows works fine |
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| 00:19.12 | JuanCraft | Azar: with all ethernet cards |
| 00:19.19 | JuanCraft | Azar: and when i try on linux.. |
| 00:19.19 | sk4b | abrotman : thanks. |
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| 00:19.26 | Azar | JuanCraft then it must be you are not configuring the ethernet correctly |
| 00:19.39 | JuanCraft | Azar: what's different that modprobe via-rhine |
| 00:19.40 | sk4b | JuanCraft : what do you need to know about Sarge install? |
| 00:19.57 | Azar | via-rhine is rumored to have hiccups with some kernels |
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| 00:20.11 | daniminas | abortman: yea sr-- |
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| 00:20.14 | JuanCraft | well.. then encore card why its the same.. |
| 00:20.23 | JuanCraft | i need to know why my ethernet card doesnt work |
| 00:20.26 | kenboo | isn't via-rhine cheapo cheapo nic? |
| 00:20.36 | JuanCraft | i try to load with sundance module too and dont get nothing. |
| 00:20.38 | bsims | Got it most of the mail was already in maildir in .$folder_name... a simple copy/paste and it worked |
| 00:20.42 | Azar | JuanCraft I use a D-Link System RTL8139 works fine with anything |
| 00:20.46 | sk4b | did u try the extra drivers foppy? |
| 00:20.46 | JuanCraft | and its the module in the floppy disk driver. |
| 00:21.05 | sk4b | it dhould work fine then |
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| 00:21.21 | JuanCraft | yes i try it.. i'm thinking that its the mainboard. i dont know why but when i run linux |
| 00:21.22 | sk4b | U have used RTL8139 based cards and worked fine |
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| 00:21.31 | dvs | Azar: Some people would beg to differ (I'm not one of them though) |
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| 00:21.36 | JuanCraft | no ethernet cards its supported. |
| 00:21.45 | JuanCraft | on knoppix its the same. |
| 00:21.55 | JuanCraft | its like this pc dont want linux.. |
| 00:21.59 | sk4b | JuanCraft : this could be an IRQ conflict / bad config on the BIOS |
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| 00:22.12 | sk4b | JuanCraft : winbloz works fine cuz it remaps these |
| 00:22.18 | Levi- | hm, how can I reach the phpbb2-forum when I installed it with apt-get? |
| 00:22.18 | JuanCraft | mmm |
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| 00:22.30 | jvw | Levi-: /usr/share/doc/phpbb2 |
| 00:22.32 | Azar | dvs, well at least I never got a blink with it not even after 52 installations |
| 00:22.33 | JuanCraft | maybe... |
| 00:22.46 | Levi- | jvw: and how can I reach it from web? |
| 00:22.48 | JuanCraft | so what its your recommend sk4b? |
| 00:22.49 | jvw | Levi-: (README.Debian) |
| 00:23.05 | sk4b | JuanCraft: enter the bios and try to switch its orther or dissable other cards as a tests |
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| 00:23.37 | JuanCraft | i wil try it.. |
| 00:23.38 | JuanCraft | brb |
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| 00:24.00 | sk4b | JuanCraft: sometimes, simply swaping theorder of some cards ( physically ) on the maiboard fixes this. |
| 00:24.19 | stew | CosmoDad: another time you'll see native packages is when they are virtual packages which only exist to pull in other packages, like kde or gnome |
| 00:24.41 | JuanCraft | thanks |
| 00:24.49 | JuanCraft | thanks to everyone |
| 00:24.51 | JuanCraft | brb. |
| 00:24.52 | sk4b | np |
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| 00:25.21 | sk4b | abrotman : thanks |
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| 00:26.03 | Jason-Bourne | reezeh haha did you get booted off too |
| 00:28.01 | LightVision | stew: yeah |
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| 00:29.02 | LightVision | stew: it says You can grab them from the /pending directory on backports.org. mozilla-firefox 1.0.7,! But it doesnt say how exactly I get Firefox 1.0.7 from /pending |
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| 00:29.06 | abrotman | scx: what .. guitar isn't good enough ? |
| 00:29.16 | eshilde | halo |
| 00:29.37 | scx | abrotman: what .. voice isn't good enough ? |
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| 00:29.54 | abrotman | scx: you're the one who specified the combination |
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| 00:30.01 | LightVision | stew: ignorte my last comment |
| 00:30.18 | eshilde | HALOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 00:30.22 | Kovecses | hello |
| 00:30.26 | eshilde | IS ANYBODY HERE??? |
| 00:30.26 | LightVision | stew: I meant to say, I can download firefox 1.0.7 from /pending, but it doesnt tell me what do to once I download it |
| 00:30.35 | bob2 | eshilde: please stop being irritating |
| 00:30.38 | scx | abrotman: I wander the conbination as amaster combination, |
| 00:30.41 | stew | LightVision: dpkg -i |
| 00:30.50 | abrotman | LightVision: ah .. i totally missed that :) |
| 00:30.51 | eshilde | I need help |
| 00:30.59 | Kovecses | is there anything else besides gdm kdm and xdm? |
| 00:31.09 | abrotman | pdm |
| 00:31.09 | bob2 | eshilde: then ask a question instead of annoying 600 people |
| 00:31.10 | abrotman | wdm |
| 00:31.14 | scx | abrotman: ever when seopoarated them r good enough |
| 00:31.14 | LightVision | abrotman: whats DAK setup ? |
| 00:31.28 | abrotman | LightVision: que? |
| 00:31.28 | LightVision | abrotman: click on /pending, and firefox 1.0.7 is there |
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| 00:31.40 | abrotman | LightVision: ah ok .. dunno what DAK is .. |
| 00:31.47 | eshilde | I have IT work, wnt somebody help me? |
| 00:31.48 | abrotman | !dak |
| 00:31.48 | dpkg | dak (also known as The Girls) is the set of scripts that manage the debian archives, including the testing scripts. See http://cvs.debian.org/dak/?cvsroot=dak for the code. |
| 00:31.52 | Kovecses | abrotman, where can i find those |
| 00:31.54 | abrotman | LightVision: there you go :) |
| 00:31.57 | dvs | !tell eshilde about ask |
| 00:32.03 | abrotman | Kovecses: they're in debian |
| 00:32.03 | bob2 | eshilde: please just ask your question |
| 00:32.07 | LightVision | abrotman: it says on website.. I have some backports for sarge ready, which are waiting for the final DAK setup I have to do...You can grab them from the /pending directory on backports.org. Amongst others there are apt 0.6.41, mozilla-firefox 1.0.7... |
| 00:32.15 | eshilde | what ask? |
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| 00:32.17 | abrotman | LightVision: /msg dpkg dak |
| 00:32.26 | LightVision | abrotman: but whats DAK setup ? |
| 00:32.28 | Kovecses | abrotman, i need one that is compatible with fluxbox |
| 00:32.33 | WhiteStone | Hey debian users! |
| 00:32.34 | eshilde | I need information about computer |
| 00:32.49 | LightVision | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.50 | abrotman | LightVision: i assume the script to setup the archives |
| 00:32.53 | LightVision | oops :P |
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| 00:32.58 | LightVision | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.04 | LightVision | oops again :P lol |
| 00:33.17 | abrotman | !tell LightVision about dak |
| 00:33.18 | abrotman | yay :) |
| 00:33.40 | LightVision | abrotman: thankls :) hehe |
| 00:33.52 | abrotman | !tell LightVision about katie |
| 00:33.55 | WhiteStone | how is everybody here |
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| 00:34.02 | eshilde | whats computer consist of? |
| 00:34.02 | LightVision | i need more sleep today, i cant think today |
| 00:34.10 | rapsys | sorry for a such question |
| 00:34.12 | jim | WhiteStone: by their internet connection. |
| 00:34.14 | eshilde | poor lightvision |
| 00:34.28 | rapsys | but I am looking for a firewall for a stupid people under windows |
| 00:34.30 | abrotman | why are all the dak scripts named after women ? |
| 00:34.37 | bsims | abrotman: I got it there are hidden maildirs in Mail that one simply copys and updates the .foo.directory folder |
| 00:34.38 | rapsys | anyone know a opensource one |
| 00:34.40 | rapsys | ? |
| 00:34.44 | LightVision | abrotman: im downloaing firefox 1.0.7 from there now, and then I will dpkg -i |
| 00:34.48 | LightVision | eshilde: :) |
| 00:34.58 | rapsys | (realy sorry for the question) |
| 00:35.06 | jim | rapsys: wrong place... unless you want a free one, install debian and go from there |
| 00:35.06 | dvs | eshilde: lspci |
| 00:35.14 | abrotman | bsims: that's an odd way for kmail to work |
| 00:35.22 | jim | rapsys: if you want easy window support, I' |
| 00:35.25 | LightVision | rapsys: why do you feel you are stupid? |
| 00:35.31 | abrotman | rapsys: windows firewall / zonealarm .. |
| 00:35.33 | eshilde | I dont understaand |
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| 00:35.36 | jim | rapsys: if you want easy window support, I charge $150/hour |
| 00:35.45 | rapsys | jim: I have already debian or mandriva on all my box |
| 00:36.02 | rapsys | abrotman: zonealarm don't support NAT |
| 00:36.05 | LightVision | !xorg-x11 |
| 00:36.06 | eshilde | I need data about computer |
| 00:36.07 | WhiteStone | jim: how much do you charge for mac? |
| 00:36.07 | jim | rapsys: then what's the deal with windows? |
| 00:36.10 | WhiteStone | jim: ER |
| 00:36.12 | WhiteStone | jim: i mean linux |
| 00:36.18 | abrotman | what .. no kde at backports yet? |
| 00:36.23 | bsims | abrotman: I suppose because I told it to create a new folder under a mbox |
| 00:36.32 | abrotman | bsims: odd indeed |
| 00:36.36 | rapsys | and it's for a server of a friend, he want nat some port on his linux box |
| 00:36.46 | jim | WhiteStone: depends on the job, how easy it is, how prepared the person asking is and how fast they learn |
| 00:36.51 | bsims | this folder is like ancient... I beleve it changed defaults sense then |
| 00:36.53 | LightVision | when you say linux, is it "lee nucks", or "lee neecks" with an eeee sound at the end? :) |
| 00:37.00 | bob2 | eshilde: what is your native language? |
| 00:37.06 | cevizoglu | LightVision, depends on what country you're from |
| 00:37.10 | rapsys | the windows server is from his work (he can't replace it, but would be happy to do it if he could) |
| 00:37.10 | bob2 | LightVision: the former |
| 00:37.15 | WhiteStone | LightVision: I usually go for Len Ucks |
| 00:37.15 | bsims | lin-eeks |
| 00:37.19 | eshilde | INDONESIA WHY? |
| 00:37.20 | LightVision | cevizoglu: Australia |
| 00:37.32 | bob2 | eshilde: perhaps try asking on your local LUG list |
| 00:37.46 | LightVision | WhiteStone: so the last part of Linux sounds like "NUTS"? |
| 00:37.48 | bob2 | LightVision: http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/08.11.shtml |
| 00:37.51 | cevizoglu | LightVision, majority rules :) |
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| 00:37.53 | jim | LightVision: google for SillySounds |
| 00:37.55 | bob2 | LightVision: no |
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| 00:38.09 | abrotman | !pronounce linux |
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| 00:38.22 | jim | LEE noooks |
| 00:38.25 | WhiteStone | !dpkg go crazy |
| 00:38.26 | jim | I guess :) |
| 00:38.30 | eshilde | WHATS THE BEST HDD IN THE WORLD???? |
| 00:38.35 | LightVision | bsims: yes, most people say that, but is in-eeks the right way to say it? shouldnt it end with nucks? sounds like nuts? |
| 00:38.37 | abrotman | wtf |
| 00:38.40 | eshilde | GIVE ME THE DATA PLEASE |
| 00:38.40 | jim | the one on MY computer |
| 00:38.46 | LightVision | abrotman: LOL |
| 00:38.48 | bsims | er wasn't there a .wav of torvalds pronouncing it somewhere |
| 00:38.50 | tazman | debian newb here, what is this about? depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 00:38.56 | jim | eshilde: google is your friend |
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| 00:38.56 | WhiteStone | D3vIN asked me to passs a message through, #debian wont let him message, it says "#debian :Cannot send to channel and see if anyone else has a idea", any ideas? |
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| 00:38.58 | cheal | bsims: I think so |
| 00:39.04 | abrotman | !prize bob2 |
| 00:39.08 | cevizoglu | LightVision, I don't call pine trees "peene" trees so I don't pronounce linux leenuks |
| 00:39.17 | LightVision | abrotman: so NUKS sounds like NUTS? |
| 00:39.24 | abrotman | i say it Lin-ucks |
| 00:39.24 | WhiteStone | not nuts |
| 00:39.35 | LightVision | cevizoglu: what country you from? |
| 00:39.37 | abrotman | but .. i'm from the east coast .. adn we don't do anything right |
| 00:39.38 | cevizoglu | LightVision, america |
| 00:39.55 | [Cadet] | amedica |
| 00:39.59 | LightVision | abrotman: when you say LIN, is the I sound like an I or an E? |
| 00:40.05 | abrotman | or more perhaps .. Lin-Ix .. but oh well |
| 00:40.11 | cevizoglu | LightVision, of course your accent is different so you wouldn't pronounce it the same was as me |
| 00:40.12 | WhiteStone | Li-nux |
| 00:40.21 | abrotman | LightVision: i say it .. Tin-Ticks .. Lin-Ix |
| 00:40.24 | WhiteStone | more like len-ux |
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| 00:40.33 | abrotman | but i'm stupid .. we know this |
| 00:40.36 | tazman | lol, sorry this was lame on my part |
| 00:40.41 | LightVision | i wonder how Linus pronounces his name |
| 00:40.50 | WhiteStone | Leye-nus |
| 00:40.51 | WhiteStone | i think |
| 00:40.52 | bob2 | LightVision: that sound file includes him pronouncing it |
| 00:40.53 | abrotman | line-us ? .. ask him |
| 00:41.00 | abrotman | i can't pronounce anything :) |
| 00:41.00 | jim | bsims: yes... you can probably google for SillySounds which is the ftp dir where the sound files are |
| 00:41.00 | bsims | Linus pronounces it as lin-ucks |
| 00:41.03 | [Cadet] | There is a sound file of Linus saying it |
| 00:41.07 | LightVision | WhiteStone: :) |
| 00:41.09 | [Cadet] | Used to be the sound test in RH |
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| 00:41.14 | cevizoglu | LightVision, I pronounce it like abrotman, but that's because of my accent :) |
| 00:41.16 | LightVision | WhiteStone: have you spoken to Linus? :) |
| 00:41.26 | abrotman | i don't have an accent ..! |
| 00:41.27 | WhiteStone | No.. but it was on one of his pages |
| 00:41.32 | bsims | http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav |
| 00:41.34 | WhiteStone | and in a sound test on red hat's sndconfig |
| 00:41.46 | cevizoglu | LightVision, he pronounces it leenux, but he's got a different accent :) |
| 00:41.46 | LightVision | bsims: when you say the lin part is the I sound like an I or an E? |
| 00:41.54 | LightVision | cevizoglu: :) |
| 00:41.55 | bsims | lin |
| 00:41.56 | jim | !pools |
| 00:41.56 | dpkg | ask me about pool |
| 00:42.01 | WhiteStone | len as in length is how i say it |
| 00:42.01 | jim | !polls |
| 00:42.02 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 00:42.09 | abrotman | LightVision: answer your quesion ? |
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| 00:42.23 | LightVision | bsims: the i in lin. do you say it as an i or an e? |
| 00:42.24 | cevizoglu | WhiteStone, you mean like lane-ux? |
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| 00:42.32 | abrotman | LightVision: listen to that wav file |
| 00:42.36 | WhiteStone | cevizoglu: no that's just right out |
| 00:42.45 | LightVision | I say it as leenux |
| 00:42.47 | abrotman | ffs .. |
| 00:42.52 | LightVision | nux sounds like nuts |
| 00:42.54 | abrotman | !kill curt schilling |
| 00:43.03 | LightVision | abrotman: what wave file? |
| 00:43.05 | dvs | ha! |
| 00:43.10 | dvs | abrotman: baseball? |
| 00:43.20 | cevizoglu | dpkg: you sick puppy |
| 00:43.24 | WhiteStone | Anyone find it funny that everyone bashes M$ for stealing everything when Linus made a kernel heavily based on Unix |
| 00:43.34 | bob2 | LightVision: both I and bsims pointed you at files of Linux pronouncing his name and Linux |
| 00:43.35 | WhiteStone | Not saying that linus did a bad job, it's just funny to note |
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| 00:43.51 | LightVision | bob2: yes im loading it now |
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| 00:44.08 | LightVision | WhiteStone: yes but MS wont admit it |
| 00:44.10 | abrotman | LightVision: /lastlog bsims |
| 00:44.10 | tazman | WhiteStone: lol, you think Linus made as much money as SUN, HP or IBM on Unix? |
| 00:44.20 | LightVision | WhiteStone: at least Linus admits it |
| 00:44.21 | abrotman | dvs: yes ... |
| 00:44.26 | WhiteStone | I just find it amusing |
| 00:44.35 | bob2 | WhiteStone: er? |
| 00:44.36 | D3vIN | thanks bob2 sorry for the attiude |
| 00:44.41 | WhiteStone | Although I think Linus did a better job ripping people off :) |
| 00:44.42 | bob2 | every OS is based on previous OS's |
| 00:44.46 | LightVision | Linus lives at home wit his parents, in debt |
| 00:44.50 | abrotman | not ... *every* |
| 00:44.55 | bob2 | linux shares no code with anything else |
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| 00:44.56 | tazman | newer windows is evolving to unix like as well |
| 00:44.59 | cevizoglu | WhiteStone, what's wrong with wanting your OS to behave the tried-and-true way? |
| 00:45.05 | WhiteStone | cevizoglu: I didn't say it was wrong |
| 00:45.07 | jim | LightVision: parents in santa clara? |
| 00:45.10 | WhiteStone | I never said anything bad about either of them |
| 00:45.15 | WhiteStone | I just said it was amusing |
| 00:45.26 | abrotman | jim: i thought he had moved to OSDL in oregon |
| 00:45.28 | bob2 | MS obviously admits windows includes ideas from DOS, CP/M and VMS |
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| 00:45.55 | jim | oh, he might have... but still, did parents come too? |
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| 00:46.28 | WhiteStone | Hello everyone *This post is not intended to ignite any flame wars and is not an attempt to spread zealotry for or against any products related to or against the FSF |
| 00:46.33 | abrotman | did he take the wife and kids ? |
| 00:46.40 | LightVision | that linus wave file was cool :) |
| 00:46.45 | jim | that I don't know |
| 00:46.54 | cheal | WhiteStone: linus didn't find a lottery ticket |
| 00:47.02 | cevizoglu | WhiteStone, but there's countless Unix clones apart from the original... |
| 00:47.06 | bob2 | WhiteStone: I don't think anyone was being zealous, they were merely criticising the facts you stated |
| 00:47.12 | abrotman | jim: maybe he shacked up with a dancer from vegas! :) |
| 00:47.36 | uruguaian | hi |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | 3 |
| 00:47.57 | WhiteStone | 42 |
| 00:48.02 | abrotman | no .. 3 |
| 00:48.18 | abrotman | it's either 3 or grand moff tarkin .. and i hope grand moff tarkin isn't a stripper |
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| 00:48.18 | WhiteStone | !42 |
| 00:48.19 | dpkg | from memory, 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. or 6 * 8 or hexadecimal for ascii 'B' or 10!/86400, or what you get when you multiply 6 by 9. (base 13), or a number that silly people use, or the number of roads a man walks down. in Douglas Adams' book, or *not* the meaning of life |
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| 00:49.00 | Spermite | just installed debian sarge and when i go to start xdm i log in to the beater one> what did i do wrong? |
| 00:49.03 | cevizoglu | or more importantly, Douglas Adam's favorite Earl Grey tea |
| 00:49.12 | cevizoglu | :P |
| 00:49.17 | Kovecses | how do i install a theme in flux?? |
| 00:49.24 | Spermite | beater X that is =0) |
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| 00:49.30 | tazman | anyone have an example of 8021q setup ? |
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| 00:49.50 | tazman | /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples doesn't have one |
| 00:49.57 | loco | please, to make a command param works from my menu on fluxbox I should only add the param after the command on the menu file? |
| 00:50.02 | jim | Spermite: if xdm is installed from the package, normally it starts automatically |
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| 00:50.42 | Gnurdux | ~gnome2.10 |
| 00:50.48 | Kachingo | Howdy |
| 00:50.49 | Spermite | jim it does start and i can login but when when i do log in its not kde its the really ugly X |
| 00:50.51 | rev0 | hi! |
| 00:50.53 | uruguaian | depmod calculate the module dependencies.. but if i've a module to load with dependencies how can help me? |
| 00:50.54 | eshilde | HALOO |
| 00:50.55 | Gnurdux | dpkg gnome2.10 |
| 00:51.01 | Gnurdux | dpkg tell me about gnome2.10 |
| 00:51.09 | Spermite | i wanna be able to log into kde |
| 00:51.20 | rev0 | how to change irq for USB? |
| 00:51.21 | jim | loco: that sounds reasonable... give it a try and see (but! the debian menu system has a generic menu system, learn about that first, edit that, do update-menus and see if fluxbox picks up the change) |
| 00:51.23 | abrotman | Gnurdux: what abou tit ? |
| 00:51.26 | dondelelcaro | Gnurdux: you can /msg the bots |
| 00:51.31 | bob2 | eshilde: please do not start again |
| 00:51.39 | Guerin | Spermite: echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xsession && startx |
| 00:51.40 | loco | jim, right, thanks |
| 00:51.44 | WhiteStone | Spermite: Do you have KDM? |
| 00:51.45 | debiannoobie | Can anyone help with a permissions problem? The permissions I set to a folder as root do not carry over to my user account |
| 00:51.47 | eshilde | sorry |
| 00:51.47 | bob2 | uruguaian: install it properly and let depmod do it |
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| 00:52.02 | Gnurdux | its in etch now right? |
| 00:52.08 | loco | jim, where does debian stores it's menu confs? |
| 00:52.09 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel etch |
| 00:52.10 | jim | I can't help ugly ex's :) |
| 00:52.11 | bob2 | debiannoobie: you'd need to show us "ls -ld foldername" output as both your user and as root |
| 00:52.11 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.2-1 (etch), Packaged size: 363 kB, Installed size: 860 kB |
| 00:52.14 | Gnurdux | i havent upgraded in ages |
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| 00:52.18 | WhiteStone | I think etch is just the name for the unstable version |
| 00:52.24 | Gnurdux | no |
| 00:52.24 | abrotman | WhiteStone: no |
| 00:52.26 | Guerin | WhiteStone: you think wrong |
| 00:52.27 | Gnurdux | its testing |
| 00:52.27 | cheal | !tell WhiteStone about etch |
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| 00:52.31 | WhiteStone | or at least they said thatl ast tim e i was here |
| 00:52.33 | Kachingo | I need some help mounting other harddrives/partitions |
| 00:52.41 | debiannoobie | bob2: I'll paste it in a sec |
| 00:52.43 | dvs | WhiteStone: not in here |
| 00:52.45 | Guerin | WhiteStone: nope, nobody with more than 1/2 a clue ever said that |
| 00:52.46 | jim | where does debian stores it's menu confs? and: does fluxbox use the generic menu package? |
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| 00:52.53 | WhiteStone | Must've been somebody without a clue then |
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| 00:52.57 | Guerin | jim: /usr/share |
| 00:53.01 | bob2 | WhiteStone: etch = testing |
| 00:53.02 | Guerin | WhiteStone: we have those, too |
| 00:53.04 | abrotman | !tell jim about menu |
| 00:53.05 | bob2 | jim: yes |
| 00:53.06 | abrotman | :) |
| 00:53.08 | uruguaian | bob2: if i install it on /lib/modules..../ and i make depmod.. and later modprobe *module*.. joust it? |
| 00:53.09 | griott | buenas |
| 00:53.12 | eshilde | how looking about computer software in google,please give me the website |
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| 00:53.23 | Guerin | eshilde: google.com/linux |
| 00:53.25 | abrotman | oh come om |
| 00:53.26 | uruguaian | griott: buenas.. |
| 00:53.26 | dvs | o_O |
| 00:53.26 | abrotman | on |
| 00:53.28 | bob2 | uruguaian: if it's installed correctly, yes |
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| 00:53.58 | Spermite | WhiteStone yes i have kdm |
| 00:54.05 | uruguaian | installed correctly..?.. in /lib/modules/kernel-version/ |
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| 00:54.09 | uruguaian | ? |
| 00:54.19 | eshilde | yaaa I know that,the website (not the google website) |
| 00:54.44 | rev0 | I use ThinkPad 600e which have (unfortunatly!) acpi BIOS and under kernel 2.6.11 it's sharing irq=9 for BIOS and USB... |
| 00:54.44 | bob2 | eshilde: try explaining what you want, again |
| 00:55.01 | rev0 | and my poor USB gives me errors!!! |
| 00:55.01 | bob2 | acpi in a laptop is a good thing |
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| 00:55.24 | rev0 | and I need my Sandisk cardreader working!!! |
| 00:55.26 | abrotman | i thought the 600s were APM still |
| 00:55.27 | rev0 | :( |
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| 00:55.45 | Spermite | Guerin did ur command and got /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found |
| 00:55.52 | jim | !tell loco about menu |
| 00:56.07 | abrotman | jim: i just told you! .. don't share it all at once! |
| 00:56.24 | jim | loco: also, try this: mozilla file:///usr/share/doc/menu/html/index.html |
| 00:56.31 | rev0 | dmesg sayz: device not accepting adress N, error -110 :( |
| 00:56.42 | debiannoobie | bob2: will runnig ls -ld under SU return the same results as under root? |
| 00:56.43 | jim | you knew I was helping loco :P |
| 00:56.51 | abrotman | no i didn't |
| 00:56.56 | bob2 | rev0: perhaps booting with "acpi=off" would help |
| 00:56.58 | bob2 | debiannoobie: yes |
| 00:56.59 | jim | did too :P |
| 00:57.10 | uruguaian | to install a module i've to only copy it yo the /lib/modules/kernel-version |
| 00:57.13 | uruguaian | ? |
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| 00:57.18 | bob2 | uruguaian: what module is it? |
| 00:57.20 | abrotman | jim: not! |
| 00:57.28 | rev0 | bob2, nope...acpi=off gives me kernel panic during boot... :( |
| 00:57.32 | jim | uruguaian: well... it might work |
| 00:57.43 | jim | too! |
| 00:57.44 | debiannoobie | bob2... they return the same... dr-x----------- 1 root root |
| 00:57.47 | uruguaian | mymodule.ko :P |
| 00:57.52 | macks | is it okay to disable CONFIG_DNOTIFY in 2.6.13 if i enable CONFIG_INOTIFY? will that affect anything? |
| 00:57.55 | abrotman | jim: not! |
| 00:57.57 | loco | jim, I'm already watching how to do it, thanks. |
| 00:58.01 | jim | not! |
| 00:58.06 | bob2 | debiannoobie: cool, so everything's working then |
| 00:58.12 | debiannoobie | but when I look at it under kde logged in as user and root, it's different |
| 00:58.18 | bob2 | uruguaian: if it's your module, you need to unbreak your build system |
| 00:58.23 | abrotman | jim: did! |
| 00:58.23 | bob2 | debiannoobie: define "different" |
| 00:58.25 | rev0 | bob2 I think I should change irq for USB but I don't know how to do that |
| 00:58.26 | uruguaian | and if i add it to /etc/modules ir will be loaded at startup? |
| 00:58.41 | bob2 | macks: I don't think anything uses dnotify aside from fam |
| 00:58.48 | jim | dis iz silly... :) |
| 00:58.51 | griott | uruguaian hi |
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| 00:59.01 | uruguaian | okay |
| 00:59.03 | jim | loco: if you need more, just ask |
| 00:59.04 | debiannoobie | right click, properties, permissions, under root shows the group has read/write access. under the user account, it shows forbidden |
| 00:59.06 | griott | todo bien por uruguay ? |
| 00:59.08 | uruguaian | hello griott |
| 00:59.09 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:59.10 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:59.19 | bob2 | debiannoobie: presumably your user isn't in the root group... |
| 00:59.27 | macks | bob2: i run gnome, so do you think disabling dnotify will break fam currently? |
| 00:59.28 | uruguaian | todo bien.. debiando un poco |
| 00:59.35 | bob2 | debiannoobie: you know your user won't be able to do anything with that dir, right? |
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| 00:59.38 | debiannoobie | and it shouldn't be.. correct |
| 00:59.40 | bob2 | macks: no |
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| 00:59.58 | key2 | hi |
| 01:00.01 | abrotman | does anyone actually use famd? |
| 01:00.06 | debiannoobie | well, it's the mountpoint for my raid... how do I set it so that the user can use it |
| 01:00.10 | bob2 | abrotman: gnome does |
| 01:00.14 | rev0 | abrotman, I'm using famd |
| 01:00.16 | bob2 | debiannoobie: what's on the raid array? |
| 01:00.19 | bob2 | filesystem-wise |
| 01:00.23 | uruguaian | unbreak.. hm.. ok |
| 01:00.29 | key2 | is there any way to mount a cramfs big endian with debian ? |
| 01:00.29 | abrotman | bob2: yes .. gnome does .. but does anyone using gnome use the features that famd provides :) |
| 01:00.35 | debiannoobie | ntfs... all my data backup from when I killed windows |
| 01:00.48 | bob2 | uruguaian: your build system should have an install make target |
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| 01:00.58 | bob2 | debiannoobie: mount it with the umask=000 mount option |
| 01:01.04 | bob2 | debiannoobie: note that you will not be able to modify it |
| 01:01.15 | bob2 | key2: is your system big endian? |
| 01:01.20 | cevizoglu | rev0, what's famd? |
| 01:01.21 | debiannoobie | also, under kde when I set the permissions as root, I set the group ownership to a group my user is part of |
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| 01:01.40 | debiannoobie | is there anyway I can set it up so that the user has rw permission to it |
| 01:01.55 | Spermite | usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found getting this now. any ideas? |
| 01:01.58 | uruguaian | i'm understanding now.. |
| 01:02.01 | bob2 | debiannoobie: no, linux cannot safely write to NTFS |
| 01:02.11 | uruguaian | bob2: TTTHANKS |
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| 01:02.37 | debiannoobie | so all the websites I found that says it can are wrong? |
| 01:03.13 | Azar | sorry to insist, but I still have to ask: is it safe to keep the /bin in my user account, what if I get a break-in ? |
| 01:03.19 | fisious | hmmm. to suse or not to suse |
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| 01:04.18 | Kachingo | why is my max refresh rate 60Hz?!?! How can I change it? |
| 01:04.31 | bob2 | Azar: you mean keeing it in your PATH? |
| 01:04.42 | uruguaian | thanks people.. see ya |
| 01:04.43 | bob2 | fisious: self-flaggelation is a lot less hassle |
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| 01:05.15 | Azar | bob2 : /home/azar/bin |
| 01:05.23 | fisious | bob2 i'm in a loop. yast keeps wanting to update my kernel. |
| 01:06.00 | bob2 | Azar: if someone compromises your user account, you're swcred anyway |
| 01:06.21 | jim | Azar: it should be safe... but what are you thinking here? not everyone will have (forexample) /home/azar/bin in their path |
| 01:07.04 | cevizoglu | fisious: try #suse |
| 01:07.12 | fisious | lol |
| 01:07.16 | fisious | soz thought i was in there |
| 01:07.18 | fisious | oops |
| 01:07.30 | error403 | If i am replacing almost all of my hardware, what do i need to do to get the kernel to load modules for my new hardware, and not the old hardware? |
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| 01:08.00 | jim | are you thinking, for example, that anyone with a user account can store things in a dir called bin located in their home dir, put that dir in their path, and then somehow trick root into running it? |
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| 01:08.28 | jim | it is for this reason that root should always su - not just su |
| 01:08.30 | whm | error403:try boot u computer,and debian will try load them |
| 01:08.55 | Azar | thanks jim, I was only thinking if my user account gets a break-in the /bin contents could be easily reached and used |
| 01:09.29 | jim | Azar: yes, if you mean /home/azar/bin |
| 01:09.39 | Azar | bob2, but can't I remove a user account and create another one without system being damaged? |
| 01:09.43 | error403 | whm, ok, so it wont try to automatically load modules for old hardware? |
| 01:09.52 | bob2 | Azar: sure you can |
| 01:09.56 | error403 | thanks.. |
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| 01:10.45 | jim | but if you mean /bin, that's a different place... and programs in there mostly are for root to run to fix things or help booting or stuff like that |
| 01:11.17 | jim | so /home/azar/bin is not the same dir or same place as /bin |
| 01:11.37 | Azar | jim I have /bin on both, root and user account |
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| 01:11.53 | jim | not sure what you mean there... |
| 01:12.08 | Azar | even if I wished I would not know how to get /bin in my user account |
| 01:12.20 | jim | how do you "have /bin"? |
| 01:12.40 | Azar | my user account was empty when I installed woody, jim. Over the time, not know exactly when and how it just popped up there |
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| 01:12.55 | Azar | I found it only because I was doing some exercises |
| 01:13.06 | whm | error403:i not sure,but if u use the kernel downloaded not compiled you self.i think it won't |
| 01:13.10 | Azar | and I am like wtf is this doing here? |
| 01:13.11 | Estes | Azar, naybe some stuff you've set in /etc/skeleton ? |
| 01:13.21 | jim | oh, you mean: suddenly there came a dir called bin in /home/azar? |
| 01:13.26 | Azar | Estes, no /skeleton here |
| 01:13.32 | Azar | jim yes |
| 01:13.43 | Estes | Azar, you checked your machine for rootkits ? |
| 01:13.44 | Azar | a full /bin directory with all executables there |
| 01:13.47 | jim | did you ever type: mkdir bin |
| 01:13.47 | jim | ? |
| 01:13.54 | Azar | jim, no |
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| 01:13.57 | Azar | never :) |
| 01:14.01 | jim | is it a symlink? |
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| 01:14.12 | Azar | jim it shows LINKS: 2 |
| 01:14.14 | Azar | it might be |
| 01:14.23 | Azar | but I did not got to symlinks practice yet |
| 01:14.25 | jim | if you do ls -l bin |
| 01:14.27 | Azar | so is ahead of time |
| 01:14.53 | Azar | first.sh, ginfo.sh |
| 01:14.58 | jim | have you been practicing copying files |
| 01:15.18 | jim | those are yours :)_ |
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| 01:15.23 | jim | I think :) |
| 01:15.44 | Estes | yeah, or you got hacked and someone owns you... |
| 01:15.53 | jim | well ultimately all the files are yours |
| 01:15.56 | Azar | only in /practice, /mysubdirectory and mv myprofile . |
| 01:16.07 | Azar | never with system files |
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| 01:16.32 | jim | then what I'd do is read that file, umm, howbout, first.sh |
| 01:16.36 | Firefishe | Hello. |
| 01:16.38 | Azar | ls -l bin total 8 |
| 01:16.44 | jim | see if you recognize what's in there |
| 01:16.46 | Azar | ? 8 what |
| 01:16.55 | jim | 8 files or dirs? |
| 01:17.03 | Estes | Azar, ls -ld bin |
| 01:17.26 | error403 | thanks whm ! |
| 01:17.34 | Estes | should give you only one line, can you paste it please ? |
| 01:17.40 | Azar | ah |
| 01:17.43 | Azar | it changed! |
| 01:18.03 | jim | yes, the d refers to something else |
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| 01:18.08 | Azar | when Id do a ls bin it would have all executables, now it only has these two: first.sh and ginfo.sh |
| 01:18.10 | Firefishe | I'm wanting to start enlightenment via kdm at boot time; I installed it and it's attendant packages via aptitude, but it didn't add it to the list of window managers. Ideas? |
| 01:18.17 | Swat2 | anyone have any experience with iroffer, i cant seem to get it to advertise the packets |
| 01:18.27 | Estes | O_o |
| 01:18.29 | Azar | this is amazing, how bin content has changed |
| 01:18.38 | Estes | humm |
| 01:18.49 | Estes | if it really did, guess you are well owned |
| 01:18.49 | jim | Azar: there must be an explanation for this :) |
| 01:18.55 | jim | I'm not sure what it is :) |
| 01:19.18 | jim | what is your pwd? |
| 01:19.30 | Azar | jim : /home/azar |
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| 01:19.36 | Azar | the only thing is there is /bin |
| 01:19.51 | jim | I think I'm getting it |
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| 01:20.04 | jim | Estes: maybe he's not owned |
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| 01:20.08 | Estes | Azar: can you paste the result of the command "w" in #flood please ? |
| 01:20.14 | Estes | jim, maybe |
| 01:20.20 | Estes | jim, as i said, just a guess |
| 01:20.49 | Azar | ok: there are two kind of bin : is bin and /bin |
| 01:20.59 | Azar | each with its own content |
| 01:21.02 | Estes | it's pretty unlikely even that someone sees changes at the moment he's hacked |
| 01:21.09 | Estes | hum |
| 01:21.18 | jim | Azar: OK, I know what it is |
| 01:21.19 | Estes | Azar, of course there is |
| 01:21.25 | Estes | :) |
| 01:21.26 | Estes | ok |
| 01:21.29 | Estes | bbl |
| 01:21.46 | key2 | is there any way to mount a cramfs big endian with debian ? |
| 01:21.49 | jim | imagine you're on the ground by a big tree |
| 01:21.59 | Azar | oh my god sorry everyone: thats from when I started learning bash scripting, I created a bin directory with two files where I started scripting, I have forgotten. |
| 01:22.06 | Azar | my bad sorry everyone |
| 01:22.18 | Estes | Azar, everyone does erros |
| 01:22.22 | Azar | how freaking stupid I can be |
| 01:22.23 | jim | if you look at the bottom of the tree you see someone carved "/" |
| 01:22.26 | Azar | thanks guys |
| 01:22.31 | Estes | Azar, i'm happy you're not owned, have fun |
| 01:22.32 | Azar | ;) |
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| 01:22.48 | Estes | Azar, listen to what jim explains |
| 01:22.57 | Azar | good I did not insert a script that ll way: Youre Pwned |
| 01:23.03 | Azar | Id get wet in an instant |
| 01:23.20 | jim | you see a branch just above you, and someone carved "home" |
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| 01:23.35 | Azar | yes I see it now, jim :) |
| 01:23.36 | Firefishe | can anyone assist me with a kdm issue? |
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| 01:23.43 | jim | you climb that branch |
| 01:24.03 | jim | you see a branch off that one called azar, you climb that |
| 01:24.09 | jim | then you see bin |
| 01:24.17 | jim | you look at that branch |
| 01:24.21 | Daveman | hey Azar :) |
| 01:24.40 | Azar | hi Daveman :) jim is giving me a visual |
| 01:24.46 | jim | you see these two leaves, called first.sh |
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| 01:24.59 | jim | now, you want to look at /bin |
| 01:25.15 | jim | so you look at the bottom of the tree (/) |
| 01:25.30 | Azar | I see bin is sticked to the bottom |
| 01:25.31 | jim | and you see a branch off that called bin with a fair number of leaves |
| 01:25.35 | Azar | err /bin I mean |
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| 01:25.54 | jim | so the bins we're talking about are -two- bins |
| 01:26.13 | jim | two dirs, same name, different parent branches |
| 01:26.14 | LightVision | im about to install firefox 1.0.7! do I first have to remove 1.0.6? |
| 01:26.20 | Azar | :) it should not let me name my working directory with same name as a system directory |
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| 01:26.35 | jim | why not? :) |
| 01:26.52 | jim | a whole linux system could be in a dir off your home dir |
| 01:27.00 | abrotman | LightVision: shouldn't have to |
| 01:27.01 | jim | (called a chroot) |
| 01:27.02 | Spermite | usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found getting this now. any ideas? |
| 01:27.05 | Azar | because accidents might happen, say I havent working with this directory for more than three months, I already forgot what it was about |
| 01:27.05 | LightVision | abrotman: ok |
| 01:27.16 | Azar | hmm |
| 01:27.20 | Firefishe | LightVision, I would think that a higher number would merely be updated fromthe old |
| 01:27.32 | Azar | I should use color coded for them |
| 01:27.34 | Firefishe | I'm wanting to start enlightenment via kdm at boot time; I installed it and it's attendant packages via aptitude, but it didn't add it to the list of window managers. Ideas? |
| 01:27.52 | Azar | say all my directories one color all system directories a distinct one |
| 01:27.55 | jim | oh yeah, the mac-like "red file" "this is a hot one" |
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| 01:28.15 | dondelelcaro | (NOT) |
| 01:28.38 | key2 | Someone has installed a debian with a SPARC ? |
| 01:28.42 | Azar | I work with color coded numbers at work a lot, helps me find things fast |
| 01:28.44 | LightVision | abrotman: I just type " dpkg -i mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0bpo1_i386.deb" |
| 01:28.48 | LightVision | abrotman: right? :) |
| 01:28.51 | jim | Azar: you'll get used to it |
| 01:29.04 | Firefishe | brb |
| 01:29.08 | abrotman | LightVision: well .. you try it :) |
| 01:29.12 | jim | I do that all the time |
| 01:29.15 | LightVision | abrotman: hehe :P ok |
| 01:29.15 | Azar | jim anyways thanks without you I could not get a clue over that stuff |
| 01:29.15 | jim | example: |
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| 01:29.46 | jim | ooh! irc tracheotomy! |
| 01:29.52 | abrotman | why not ... |
| 01:30.00 | Azar | :) |
| 01:30.00 | abrotman | #debian becomes #doctor |
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| 01:30.33 | jim | Azar: this is why you should explore the different system dirs |
| 01:30.42 | abrotman | jim: tune in next week when we perform a vasectomy on nvz .. just to make sure :) |
| 01:30.44 | jim | see what they're about |
| 01:30.56 | jim | hah :) |
| 01:31.05 | LightVision | abrotman: hey. it worked :) I am now running 1.0.7 Firefox on Sarge :) woohoo |
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| 01:31.22 | jim | then will the girls start or stop swarming on him? :) |
| 01:31.23 | LightVision | stew: I am now running 1.0.7 Firefox on Sarge :) |
| 01:31.55 | abrotman | LightVision: backports are good .. but you need to keep track .. and be aware that d-s-a won't always apply to you anymore .. and you *must* remmeber to tell people if you think there is even the slightest chance it could be involved when you ask for help |
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| 01:32.12 | LightVision | abrotman: whats d-s-a? |
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| 01:32.20 | abrotman | !dsa |
| 01:32.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, dsa is Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
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| 01:32.45 | LightVision | scarynetworkguy: lol |
| 01:32.55 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: ][J*#-f run |
| 01:33.16 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yay! |
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| 01:34.04 | dansushi | hello: does anyone here know about some good domain (not webhosting) services that i can talk to and ask some questions about which has certain options, tools, etc.? |
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| 01:34.32 | jim | Azar: to give you a sorta extreme but common example... I might want to get the kernel source for say 2.6.11 from kernel.org, unpack that, get the kernel source for 2.6.11 from its debian package, and find all the differences between the two |
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| 01:36.08 | eye69 | Could somebody give me a few synonyms for "depression" or "being depressed"? |
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| 01:36.21 | gravity | eye69: sad |
| 01:36.28 | jvai | blue |
| 01:36.33 | LightVision | eye69: depression is nothing more than an ungrateful person |
| 01:36.37 | gravity | moribund |
| 01:36.55 | scarynetworkguy | MPE user. |
| 01:37.26 | stew | eye69: http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=depression |
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| 01:37.54 | jim | person who plays BOTH kinds of music... country AND western... |
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| 01:38.52 | jvai | depression .. indention |
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| 01:40.22 | Azar | while viewing a very large directory say ls /usr/bin, how can I get to pause so I can show one screenfull at a time? ls scrolls fast and I only get to see few screens up |
| 01:40.42 | probonic | ls /usr/bin | more |
| 01:40.52 | Azar | thanks probonic |
| 01:41.16 | jim | Azar: ls produces text output... anything that produces text output can be piped to more |
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| 01:42.16 | pixelmonkey | I have an italian list of words in /usr/share/dict, I'm wondering what package contains the English one? Is it freedict? |
| 01:42.40 | Azar | jim, thanks I thought "more" is just listing file contents, interesting it can be used to view large directory contents too |
| 01:42.52 | jim | or ANYTHING |
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| 01:43.15 | jim | if you say "more someFile" |
| 01:43.22 | Azar | works with "less" too :) |
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| 01:43.47 | jim | that's one way of doing it... but, look at this... cat produces text output... |
| 01:43.59 | pixelmonkey | oh I found it, wamerican-large |
| 01:44.03 | joeyy | how do i remove apache2 |
| 01:44.12 | joeyy | i did apt-get remove |
| 01:44.18 | joeyy | but it didnt remove it |
| 01:44.24 | jim | more someFile is almost exactly the same as cat someFile | more |
| 01:44.41 | dondelelcaro | joeyy: apache2 is just a meta package that depends on other packages. |
| 01:44.48 | jim | as far as the end result, it IS exactly the same |
| 01:45.02 | jim | as far as how it works, it's a little different |
| 01:45.09 | joeyy | how do i get it to remove ? |
| 01:45.14 | Azar | jim I have no idea why "cat" does not appeal to me, maybe obscure memories from the times I used to cat binary files :) |
| 01:45.19 | dondelelcaro | joeyy: you're going to want to remove whatever apache2-mpm-*; you've got installed, and probably apache2-common as well. If you were using aptitude, this would have happened already. |
| 01:46.04 | jim | I guess you could also cat binary files, and pipe that to more... not sure how useful that is tho :) |
| 01:46.43 | jim | but do you start to see how things can be pieced together, and how the pieces are fairly well-defined? |
| 01:47.42 | Azar | jim I am drawing the tree as we speak |
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| 01:48.15 | Daveman | Azar :P |
| 01:48.27 | jim | whoDOknow? |
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| 01:50.19 | Azar | Daveman :) |
| 01:52.45 | tazman | to nazwisko smierdzi |
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| 01:53.31 | Daveman | :o |
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| 01:56.15 | lunaphyte | on a system with two network interfaces, how can i determine/control which interface will be used? |
| 01:56.20 | dansushi | hello: does anyone here know about some good domain (not webhosting) services that i can talk to and ask some questions about which has certain options, tools, etc.? (or other channels i could go to to get this info?) |
| 01:56.41 | lunaphyte | dansushi: something like #dns ? |
| 01:56.47 | dansushi | ok |
| 01:56.47 | dansushi | thanks |
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| 01:56.54 | dansushi | crap |
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| 01:59.54 | EvilSporkMan | how do i stop ide-scsi from grabbing my CD/DVD drives? I'm running kernel 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8. I probably need ide-scsi loaded because I have a SATA hard drive, but it shouldn't be needed for CD/DVD drives and it seems to be causing other problems |
| 02:00.11 | EvilSporkMan | i also thought I had this problem taken care of |
| 02:00.34 | bob2 | it's unlikely to cause other problems |
| 02:00.38 | bob2 | what issues are you seeing? |
| 02:00.40 | Azar | man group bugs: As the 4.2BSD initgroups(3) man page says: Noone seems to keep /etc/group up-to-date . wow |
| 02:00.48 | EvilSporkMan | bob2: kernel oops when i try to mount /dev/hdc |
| 02:00.59 | bob2 | that's a whole seperate other thing |
| 02:01.03 | EvilSporkMan | bob2: errors in dmesg |
| 02:01.13 | EvilSporkMan | oh, ok...it's not ide-scsi's fault? |
| 02:01.35 | bob2 | well |
| 02:01.49 | bob2 | it might be, but it's a bug that's independent of you using it or not |
| 02:02.14 | EvilSporkMan | so the fix is to remove 2.6.12 kernel? |
| 02:02.24 | Azar | I allways goofed when I tried to mount my CDRom drive, I had to babble until figure out how it was called hdc or cdrom |
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| 02:02.40 | bob2 | eR? |
| 02:02.47 | bob2 | the fix is to report it so it can be fixed |
| 02:03.00 | bob2 | booting with hdc=ide-cd will stop you using it for now, tho |
| 02:03.10 | EvilSporkMan | bob2: i assumed it was reported because you seemed to have heard about it before |
| 02:03.16 | EvilSporkMan | and i thought ide-scsi was considered harmful anyway |
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| 02:07.02 | EvilSporkMan | well, what package would i report the bug against? |
| 02:07.20 | bob2 | whatever package your kernel image came from |
| 02:07.29 | jim | maybe the kernel you're using |
| 02:07.34 | EvilSporkMan | bob2: even though it's probably not specific to that kernel build? |
| 02:08.11 | jim | like you say tho, what else are you going to report it against? |
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| 02:08.36 | jmg | guys any idea what to do about this |
| 02:08.41 | jmg | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2600 |
| 02:09.03 | jim | find out what ubuntuites say :) |
| 02:09.12 | bob2 | EvilSporkMan: yes |
| 02:09.32 | jim | heya rob |
| 02:10.38 | jmg | jim: heh |
| 02:10.43 | jmg | its punked |
| 02:10.43 | EvilSporkMan | so i just append hdx=ide-cd to my kernel line in grub's menu.lst, right? |
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| 02:11.26 | jim | that should work if hdx=ide-cd at boot does |
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| 02:11.56 | EvilSporkMan | jim: that's really the question, though...i can't find docs to support hdx=ide-cd working |
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| 02:12.27 | shad0w1e | question!! I'm running "woody" and I performed an apt-get update by mistake and now I'm getting all of "sarge's" packages and it's trying to update like my entire system with every install (which i DO NOT WANT). Is there any way to roll back my apt-get database to "woody" (I did not perform ANY installs after doing the apt-get update) Thanks. |
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| 02:13.03 | EvilSporkMan | well, i'm going to reboot and try forcing ide-cd |
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| 02:14.26 | wireddd | shad0w1e well sarge is stable now... |
| 02:14.37 | shad0w1e | wireddd yes but I have a reason why I must stay with what I have |
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| 02:15.09 | bob2 | shad0w1e: if you didn't install anything, then fixing your sources.list is plenty |
| 02:15.19 | D3vIN | I have a question> is there a debian sarge iso that comes with kde.3.4? |
| 02:15.21 | jim | shad0w1e: then have woody in your sources list, NOT stable |
| 02:15.22 | shad0w1e | bob2 what do you mean |
| 02:15.30 | shad0w1e | jim, i thought I can do that |
| 02:15.35 | shad0w1e | then I just do a new apt-get update? |
| 02:15.39 | jim | yes |
| 02:15.49 | shad0w1e | jim, thanks, what do I back up before doing that |
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| 02:15.57 | jim | what happened to you, is sarge became stable |
| 02:15.58 | shad0w1e | If I screw this system, I am DEAD |
| 02:16.07 | bob2 | shad0w1e: you already screwed up |
| 02:16.13 | jim | did things already get installed? |
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| 02:16.17 | bob2 | shad0w1e: if you want to use woody, use woody in your sources.list |
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| 02:16.37 | shad0w1e | so replace all instances of "stable" with "woody", then do apt-get update |
| 02:16.42 | jim | yes |
| 02:16.54 | shad0w1e | I want to back up whatever it is before it gets changed |
| 02:16.56 | jim | and probably comment out the security line |
| 02:16.59 | shad0w1e | which dirs is it |
| 02:17.11 | wireddd | what ever what is? |
| 02:17.29 | shad0w1e | I want to back up the database |
| 02:17.32 | shad0w1e | before I apt-get update |
| 02:17.34 | jim | be a conversation follower :) |
| 02:19.34 | jim | shad0w1e: you already have the -wrong- database if you updated before |
| 02:19.54 | shad0w1e | jim, thats true but the system does work |
| 02:20.06 | jim | I don't think it'd do you any good to back it up |
| 02:20.08 | shad0w1e | i was told that its something to do with /var/lib/dpkg |
| 02:20.24 | shad0w1e | and /var/lib/apt |
| 02:20.39 | Daveman | Azar, still around? :) |
| 02:21.28 | shad0w1e | If I did an apt-get update |
| 02:21.33 | shad0w1e | and then never did anything else with apt-get after |
| 02:21.34 | Azar | Daveman, yes, practicing file settings and stuf |
| 02:21.37 | shad0w1e | it's okay to roll back to "woody" ? |
| 02:21.54 | jim | did any packages get installed? |
| 02:21.59 | shad0w1e | jim, no |
| 02:22.09 | Azar | shad0, you cannot "roll back" just a plain reinstall woody from scratch |
| 02:22.10 | jim | then you should still be running woody' |
| 02:22.12 | shad0w1e | it just downloaded the new database |
| 02:22.23 | shad0w1e | jim, I am |
| 02:22.31 | shad0w1e | just any time I try to apt-get install anything |
| 02:22.37 | shad0w1e | it shows me that its gona be upgrading like 50 packages |
| 02:22.39 | bob2 | shad0w1e: dude |
| 02:22.41 | bob2 | shad0w1e: stop talking |
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| 02:22.43 | shad0w1e | I never did it though |
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| 02:22.55 | bob2 | shad0w1e: if you pointed /etc/apt/sources.list at woody, and ran "apt-get update", you're back wher e you strted |
| 02:22.55 | shad0w1e | lol |
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| 02:23.02 | shad0w1e | bob2, thanks |
| 02:23.02 | Azar | he has "stable' in sources :) going for sarge stuff |
| 02:23.24 | wireddd | should just switch to sarge... |
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| 02:23.33 | shad0w1e | wireddd, NEGATIVE! |
| 02:23.51 | Azar | wow speaking of bad Sarge reputation? |
| 02:24.13 | jim | shad0w1e: as far as I know there's no need to back up (but! sh*t happens... maybe back up everything every once in awhile) |
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| 02:24.45 | jim | meaning your entire hd |
| 02:24.46 | shad0w1e | no I just cant update at this time |
| 02:24.58 | jim | edit the file |
| 02:25.07 | shad0w1e | jim, gotit, thanks a bunch! |
| 02:25.13 | shad0w1e | i thought I could do that but wanted to check first |
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| 02:25.46 | Azar | Daveman you wanted to say something? Im burrying myself on the interactive manuals |
| 02:25.46 | jim | you can, then you update... then you will be back to before you updated with sarge |
| 02:25.47 | shad0w1e | when I try to copy /var/lib/apt to a backup ,it says cp: omitting directory `/var/lib/apt' |
| 02:25.52 | Jimmy07 | hey guys, i use the "&" feature to detach from processes i run.. is there any way i can reattach to them? |
| 02:26.02 | jim | edit the file |
| 02:26.18 | jim | do that first |
| 02:26.23 | jim | get it out of the way |
| 02:26.29 | relaxed | Jimmy07: fg |
| 02:26.34 | shad0w1e | the thing is, others could have logged in and installed stuff |
| 02:26.37 | shad0w1e | im pretty damn sure NOT |
| 02:26.42 | shad0w1e | but I cant take a risk |
| 02:26.48 | jim | as root? |
| 02:26.53 | shad0w1e | yea, as root |
| 02:26.58 | Jimmy07 | fg? |
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| 02:27.05 | abrotman | damn sox |
| 02:27.18 | relaxed | Jimmy07: isn't that what I said? |
| 02:27.43 | Jimmy07 | would you mind elaborating? |
| 02:27.53 | jim | shad0w1e: dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version |
| 02:28.02 | abrotman | yeah .. they're going to lose 6-5 .. and still be tied for the AL East lead!!! |
| 02:28.13 | jim | shad0w1e: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 02:28.26 | relaxed | Jimmy07: man bash |
| 02:28.55 | jim | info bash is better tho, man page may be out of date, more likely be unmaintained |
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| 02:30.39 | jim | shad0w1e: those should produce one line apiece |
| 02:30.45 | jim | please show those lines |
| 02:30.48 | relaxed | if it's out of date it shouldn't be there. I've always thought info was silly. |
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| 02:31.24 | jim | *shrug* talk to the gnu people or to the bash maint |
| 02:31.31 | kl1 | hi any one knows how can i take out a user that is as a root but im also root in terminal? |
| 02:31.51 | jim | m16? |
| 02:32.32 | Azar | kl1, change root password, shut down, reboot, he is out |
| 02:32.51 | kl1 | Azar oh ok thank you :) |
| 02:33.29 | Jimmy07 | relaxed, my understanding is that you use bg to find the joblist and then use fg to attach to a particular job right? |
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| 02:34.07 | jim | well bg and fg are both part of job control |
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| 02:35.09 | jim | but you might also look into what SIGSTOP does, what fg, jobs, "kill %number" does |
| 02:35.18 | bob2 | I'd be pretty surpsied if the manpage was out of date wrt job control |
| 02:35.26 | bob2 | since that hasn't changed since like 1943 |
| 02:36.08 | Daveman | Azar, heh |
| 02:36.16 | Jimmy07 | and reading all that will help me understand how to reattach a process that ive deattached using "&"? |
| 02:36.29 | Azar | Jimmy07: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-basics.html#s-basics-jobs |
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| 02:36.33 | Daveman | nah I just figured I'd pop in and ask about a silly kernel problem I had the other day :) |
| 02:36.46 | jim | yes |
| 02:36.57 | Azar | what kernel you got, Daveman? |
| 02:37.05 | jim | because you'll understand what the commands do and how they relate to each other |
| 02:37.07 | jim | now... |
| 02:37.11 | Daveman | Azar, after upgrading to 2.6, it hangs up on init (when loading usb) :\ |
| 02:37.12 | jim | I'm getting sushi... |
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| 02:37.16 | jim | or pad thai... |
| 02:37.19 | jim | or something :) |
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| 02:37.39 | Azar | Daveman surely it tries to load some usb device find out which one |
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| 02:38.02 | Daveman | :\ |
| 02:38.50 | shad0w1e | okay thanks a lot, fellas |
| 02:38.55 | Daveman | heh, probably... I'll have to check and see :) |
| 02:39.01 | bob2 | Jimmy07: 'jobs' gives you a list of jobs |
| 02:39.02 | shad0w1e | later |
| 02:39.06 | bob2 | Jimmy07: %N resumes the N'th job |
| 02:39.26 | Azar | I was just exploring /var/log and I found some logs showing me the bootup process so I could watch what was burped at bootup |
| 02:39.36 | Azar | some uhci usb modules were too |
| 02:39.45 | Daveman | well yes |
| 02:40.03 | Daveman | well hey, at least it didn't panic on loading usb_core ;p |
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| 02:40.22 | jim | Shotgun wedding |
| 02:40.27 | Azar | Daveman do you use usb devices at all? |
| 02:40.32 | jim | case of wife or death |
| 02:40.38 | Daveman | o.O |
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| 02:40.46 | Daveman | jim, I don't see any man pages for that... |
| 02:41.04 | kl1 | any one knows how can i restart the system? |
| 02:41.25 | astronut | kl1: yes |
| 02:41.31 | Daveman | any number of ways |
| 02:41.34 | Daveman | :P |
| 02:41.36 | astronut | Daveman: shush |
| 02:41.39 | astronut | he didn't ask how |
| 02:41.40 | astronut | just if we knew |
| 02:41.41 | Daveman | :( |
| 02:41.45 | jim | kl1: yes |
| 02:41.46 | astronut | ;-) |
| 02:41.50 | Daveman | ooh ooh, I know :p |
| 02:41.52 | Daveman | heehee |
| 02:42.17 | jim | kl1: seems a lot of people do know :) |
| 02:42.27 | jim | hint: |
| 02:42.29 | jim | !ask |
| 02:42.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 02:42.59 | Guerin | !factinfo ask |
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| 02:42.59 | dpkg | ask -- last modified at Wed Jul 27 21:39:43 2005 by dondelelcaro!~don@archimedes.ucr.edu; it has been requested 360 times, last by jim, 30s ago. |
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| 02:43.09 | Guerin | that is a truly useful factoid |
| 02:43.11 | Daveman | heh |
| 02:43.18 | Azar | k|1: did you telnet and got root on another person machine and now trying to take over it? |
| 02:43.22 | jim | yes, it's much better than before |
| 02:43.29 | Daveman | azar - haha |
| 02:43.47 | astronut | i can think of about 4 different ways right now |
| 02:43.51 | astronut | toggle power switch |
| 02:43.52 | jim | I think everything after Don't should be removed and added to "ask to ask" |
| 02:43.54 | astronut | pull power cord |
| 02:44.04 | jim | destroy sun |
| 02:44.08 | astronut | go downstairs and flip breaker |
| 02:44.20 | astronut | take wirecutters and cut cord (make sure to wear insultaing gloves) |
| 02:44.24 | astronut | run over power box with backho |
| 02:44.48 | Daveman | naughty |
| 02:44.57 | dondelelcaro | jim: yeah, I just stuck all that stuff into one factoid so you could respond with it for the most common situtations |
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| 02:45.06 | dondelelcaro | jim: having to tell people two different factoids gets old fast |
| 02:45.19 | Azar | hmm sounds so 80'sh to get root on the school's principal machine and take it over. |
| 02:45.20 | Daveman | dondelelcaro :) |
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| 02:45.40 | jim | has he asked how already? :) |
| 02:45.41 | Daveman | haha |
| 02:45.42 | astronut | Azar: i dont' bother..the IT dept. will blame me if anything gets hacked..regardless if i do it |
| 02:45.48 | jim | dondelelcaro: *nod* |
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| 02:46.03 | Azar | astronut, sorry I did not hint at you.. |
| 02:46.03 | astronut | did we scare kl1 off? |
| 02:46.13 | EvilSporkMan | tried hdx=ide-cd and hdx=cdrom...neither appears to be helping |
| 02:46.13 | astronut | Azar: oh, i know, was just remarking on your comment |
| 02:46.33 | astronut | kl1: since i'm in a helping mood...use either the command 'reboot' or the command 'shutdown -r now' |
| 02:46.33 | EvilSporkMan | yep, oops again when i try to mount my dvd drive =( |
| 02:46.35 | astronut | if you're in a terminal |
| 02:46.39 | astronut | if you're in gnome it's under logout |
| 02:46.42 | astronut | and i'm not sure about kde |
| 02:47.10 | astronut | i think it's in the K |
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| 02:47.12 | Azar | astronut he can shutdown remotely, but he will not be able to depress the Start button again.. |
| 02:47.14 | jim | and if you're not where the machine is... it would be nice to have someone there |
| 02:47.17 | astronut | Azar: lol |
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| 02:47.27 | Estes | Hey guys ! i receive my configuration through DHCP my problem beeing it's comcast... so... the DNS servers are slow... How can i prevent DHCP client from changing my DNS information and set MY OWN DNS servers ? |
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| 02:47.38 | Azar | its up to the owner to restart tomorrow and have a surprise surprise.. |
| 02:47.46 | Daveman | heh |
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| 02:48.00 | astronut | was he doing something else |
| 02:48.03 | jim | Estes: run your own dhcp behind your gateway |
| 02:48.04 | astronut | i just saw his last comment |
| 02:48.22 | astronut | Estes: meh...how i've tried |
| 02:48.36 | EvilSporkMan | how do i stop ide-scsi from associating itself with my optical drives? |
| 02:48.39 | Estes | jim, can't, I'm just behind the comcast modem |
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| 02:48.53 | astronut | dhclient.conf(5) should help |
| 02:48.54 | Daveman | heh |
| 02:49.00 | jim | Estes: what, no firewall?? :) |
| 02:49.01 | EvilSporkMan | ide-cd _and_ ide-scsi seem to be kicking in, and ide-scsi is giving me oopses and i just want it to go away because it's deprecated anyway |
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| 02:49.32 | astronut | Estes: or you can modify the script that takes it |
| 02:49.33 | astronut | i did it |
| 02:49.34 | astronut | hang on |
| 02:49.36 | astronut | wait |
| 02:49.36 | astronut | nm |
| 02:49.39 | Estes | jim, iptables on localhost... won't help... |
| 02:49.43 | digital-x- | WTT WOW ACC - Profile: @*@*@ http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55615 @*@*@ PM for more info @@@ http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55615 x @@@@@@@@@ |
| 02:49.43 | astronut | i use my own dchp server |
| 02:49.43 | Guerin | Estes: edit /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 02:49.54 | Daveman | haha |
| 02:49.56 | Estes | Guerin, will look, thanks |
| 02:49.57 | Guerin | Estes: or make resolv.conf +i with chattr |
| 02:50.00 | astronut | Estes: i did tell you, man 5 dhclient.conf |
| 02:50.05 | digital-x- | WTT WOW ACC FamaleHumanMage Lvl60 - Profile: @*@*@ http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55615 @*@*@ PM for more info @ http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55615 |
| 02:50.06 | Guerin | my isp poisons my dns as well |
| 02:50.07 | astronut | <astronut> dhclient.conf(5) should help |
| 02:50.13 | Daveman | digital-x-, stop spamming :P |
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| 02:50.20 | digital-x- | its wow trading ! |
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| 02:50.57 | astronut | digital-x-, meet dondelelcaro... dondelelcaro, +q digital-x- |
| 02:51.14 | Daveman | haha, basically ;) |
| 02:51.22 | Daveman | hahaha... +q... |
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| 02:52.42 | Estes | brb..... i hope... |
| 02:53.02 | astronut | has left...requested by? is that how hyperion does kicks? |
| 02:53.18 | mentor | Is it just me, or is using an assignment and an increment/decrement in the same line of C as sure way to madness. |
| 02:53.19 | mentor | ? |
| 02:53.45 | dondelelcaro | nah, you just have to know which of the increment/decrement operators you are using |
| 02:54.34 | Azar | bots activity increasing.. |
| 02:55.08 | mentor | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html#known |
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| 02:56.18 | Kachingo | how do you get the scroll on a mouse to work? |
| 02:56.27 | astronut | mentor: not really |
| 02:56.30 | mentor | Whip it harder! |
| 02:56.32 | astronut | it's good for conciseness |
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| 02:56.39 | astronut | and for removing the need for {} |
| 02:56.40 | mentor | Kachingo: What do you want it to do? |
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| 02:56.51 | astronut | for instance, for(..) blah[x++]=foo; |
| 02:56.59 | xuniluser | What cd burner do you use? |
| 02:57.05 | xuniluser | apps |
| 02:57.06 | Kachingo | mentor: scroll up/down the page |
| 02:57.07 | astronut | instead of for (...) { blah[x]=foo; x=x+1} |
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| 02:58.22 | mentor | astronut: tbh, two lines isn't that much more work, and it preserves the logical seperation in my mind. |
| 02:58.37 | astronut | mentor: each to their own |
| 02:58.38 | mentor | astronut: But I mean things like: i=++i |
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| 02:58.52 | astronut | ok, now that's just screwy |
| 02:58.53 | Kachingo | mentor: ? |
| 02:58.55 | danieldg | Kachingo: add Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" to the mouse section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:58.58 | mentor | i=++i |
| 02:59.04 | mentor | Kachingo: the page in what? |
| 02:59.05 | astronut | hmm, decrements i, then assigns it |
| 02:59.13 | astronut | ++i; is just as effective |
| 02:59.29 | mentor | astronut: Well, you would assume, but that's not what the C spec says. |
| 02:59.31 | astronut | for that mater, so is i++; |
| 02:59.35 | astronut | it isn't |
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| 02:59.41 | astronut | ? |
| 02:59.56 | astronut | wanna explain that one? |
| 03:00.04 | astronut | the ++ operator has precendence over = |
| 03:00.06 | Kachingo | mentor: like in an internet browser, IRC, document etc. |
| 03:00.11 | astronut | i should be decremented |
| 03:00.13 | astronut | then assigned to i |
| 03:00.18 | astronut | err |
| 03:00.20 | astronut | incremented |
| 03:00.39 | astronut | it should be the same as i=i+1 or i+=1 |
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| 03:00.46 | mentor | astronut: OK, how about (++i)*(++i) |
| 03:00.50 | jroes | hm. |
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| 03:00.58 | jroes | does awk print while it processes? |
| 03:01.00 | astronut | and eventually the same as i=i++ |
| 03:01.01 | mentor | astronut: It's probably best you read that url I gave. |
| 03:01.05 | astronut | which sets i to i then increments it |
| 03:01.07 | astronut | mentor: missed it |
| 03:01.13 | northbayrep | hi, how do i look at power management options? |
| 03:01.22 | astronut | got it |
| 03:01.39 | mentor | Kachingo: Yes, then you need to configure X to use the right mouse protocol, and then add a ZAxisMapping clause. The various programs then should pick that automagically. |
| 03:01.47 | redge- | hey, what and where is the default kind of device manager in sarge? |
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| 03:01.54 | mentor | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html#known |
| 03:02.04 | astronut | weird |
| 03:02.14 | astronut | ok, too late to try and grok it |
| 03:02.18 | astronut | i'm off to bed |
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| 03:02.20 | astronut | night all |
| 03:02.32 | northbayrep | night, astronut |
| 03:02.39 | peej | kachingo, danieldg : http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/25/104320/439 :-) |
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| 03:03.25 | northbayrep | how do i look at power management settings? |
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| 03:03.43 | Muffie | UAE is no longer present at apt-get? |
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| 03:06.33 | Muffie | hello? |
| 03:06.37 | Muffie | anyone there? |
| 03:06.39 | nvz | bah forgot my samba passwd |
| 03:06.50 | nvz | wtf is UAE? |
| 03:06.59 | redge- | hello Muffie, sorry can't tell |
| 03:06.59 | Muffie | nvz, Amiga Emulator |
| 03:07.02 | nvz | other than a TLA |
| 03:07.05 | redge- | nice |
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| 03:07.23 | nvz | Muffie: it was just called "UAE" the package name? |
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| 03:08.07 | nvz | !info UAE testing |
| 03:08.10 | Kachingo | Mentor: Where in that file do I add it? Because it appears to be there already |
| 03:08.13 | Muffie | nvz, not sure... At UAE main page its saying that UAE is included in Debian... |
| 03:08.17 | nvz | !info UAE sarge |
| 03:08.19 | dpkg | uae: (The Ubiquitous Amiga Emulator: Base), section contrib/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.8.22-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 590 kB, Installed size: 1968 kB |
| 03:08.25 | mentor | Kachingo: XF86Config? |
| 03:08.28 | nvz | Muffie: its only in stable |
| 03:08.39 | mentor | Kachingo: What kind of mouse do you have? |
| 03:08.40 | Kachingo | Mentor: The very same |
| 03:08.43 | nvz | Muffie: may have lost its maintainer or something |
| 03:09.11 | keko_ | mentor: a je shqiptar ? |
| 03:09.25 | Kachingo | Mentor: just a PS/2 Mouse |
| 03:09.41 | wang | anyone know if there are any clients that support the google talk feature yet? |
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| 03:09.56 | mentor | Kachingo: What's your mouse protocol set to? Have you got a 2.6 kernel? |
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| 03:10.17 | Kachingo | Mentor: ... |
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| 03:10.28 | mentor | Kachingo: !!! |
| 03:10.39 | keko_ | mentor: .. |
| 03:10.48 | redge- | can anyone please tell me how is called the "device manager" in sarge? |
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| 03:10.57 | mentor | Kachingo: In your XF86Config...what do you have your mouse protocol set to... |
| 03:11.02 | mentor | redge-: er? |
| 03:11.16 | northbayrep | where do you set power management options? |
| 03:11.27 | redge- | mentor, like the tv show? ;> |
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| 03:11.42 | nvz | doh! I forgot to put in my username as a mount option :P |
| 03:11.44 | keko_ | read the fuqin manuals! |
| 03:11.51 | keko_ | :D haha |
| 03:12.02 | Kachingo | Mentor: Its Xf86Config-4 I'm meant to be looking in eh> |
| 03:12.14 | nvz | I;ve really got to setup my boxes statically. after cleaning I turned them back on and they all got new ips and it fucked all kinds of shit up |
| 03:12.24 | sgeigerbot | redge-: is that a windows term? |
| 03:12.28 | rking | nvz: dyndns? |
| 03:12.42 | mentor | Kachingo: POssibly xorg.conf |
| 03:12.52 | nvz | rking: dyndns is way overkill on a private network. |
| 03:13.09 | rking | nvz: ohhh, i see |
| 03:13.11 | mentor | nvz: What' wrong with a bit of overkill? |
| 03:13.15 | redge- | sgeigerbot, i dunno but i have put the term in "s, so i d'ont get that answer :> |
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| 03:13.52 | sgeigerbot | redge-: what? I don't understand you. |
| 03:14.00 | Kachingo | Mentor: Theres 2 mouse sections. One says configured, and one says generic. |
| 03:14.25 | mentor | Kachingo: What does your server layout reference? |
| 03:14.34 | Kachingo | Mentor: ? |
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| 03:14.38 | nvz | I started the DHCP pool at 10.0.0.11 so I got 10.0.0.2/8 and 10.0.0.20/234 for static IPs |
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| 03:15.05 | mentor | Kachingo: There should be a server layour section in you r x confirutaiton file. |
| 03:15.14 | [Cadet] | nvz: Why not just dhcp but with your dhcp server handing out specific IPs for specific MAC addresses |
| 03:15.28 | redge- | sgeigerbot, you know when you don't know the exact term of something.. you put "<term>"? |
| 03:16.18 | nvz | [Cadet]: yeah I could do that too. But if I change cards I got to login to the modem and change the mac IDs. this way the configuration is as perminant as possible |
| 03:16.48 | [Cadet] | ok, cards never seem to go out here ;) |
| 03:16.48 | Kachingo | Mentor: Ah yip, I see it. What do you want to know out of the server layout section? |
| 03:17.01 | mentor | Kachingo: Which mouse is it using? |
| 03:17.24 | Kachingo | Mentor: Both. How odd... |
| 03:17.31 | [Cadet] | Are there any tricks to get airport express working? I haven't really researched lately but I don't mind reading if anybody has links |
| 03:17.43 | [Cadet] | airport extreme that is |
| 03:18.18 | EdLin | [Cadet]: airport extreme is known to not work, tell them to open up their specs. |
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| 03:18.49 | [Cadet] | EdLin: I know but I was not sure if anybody had come up with anyting like ndis or something like that lately |
| 03:18.57 | EdLin | [Cadet]: Debian runs on Emacs, or is it the other way around? ;-) |
| 03:19.18 | EdLin | M-x Debian |
| 03:19.30 | [Cadet] | Closest rj45 is upstairs |
| 03:19.36 | Kachingo | Mentor: It says that both "Configured Mouse" and "Generic Mouse" are imput devices |
| 03:20.01 | mentor | Kachingo: Look in the logs to see which one it was using? |
| 03:20.22 | Kachingo | Mentor: Okie Dokie. Where are they located again? |
| 03:20.29 | mentor | /var/log/? |
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| 03:21.47 | Narg | What tool might you use to copy/manipulate iso fs's? |
| 03:21.49 | Narg | dd? |
| 03:22.08 | peterS | Narg: to do what with them? |
| 03:22.19 | peterS | Narg: you can certainly use 'cp' and 'dd' on the raw images, but is that what you want? |
| 03:22.38 | Narg | I want to take an iso from a fs and put it on my hdd, in iso form |
| 03:22.47 | Narg | from a cd* |
| 03:22.48 | Narg | :p |
| 03:22.49 | peterS | Narg: cp /dev/cdrom /tmp/my.iso |
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| 03:23.00 | peterS | Narg: that's the simple way, dd syntax is a bit harder |
| 03:23.09 | Kachingo | mentor: it seems to open both |
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| 03:23.37 | mentor | Kachingo: I should give up on one, and configure the other correctly? |
| 03:24.02 | Kachingo | mentor: You want me to delete one? |
| 03:24.15 | mentor | Kachingo: Well, the reference to one |
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| 03:25.55 | Daveman | hey PeterS :) |
| 03:25.57 | Kachingo | mentor: actually, in the log it fails to boot Generic Mouse, and just boots Configured mouse instead |
| 03:26.11 | peterS | burma shave man |
| 03:26.12 | mentor | Kachingo: Excellent, is that configured correctly? |
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| 03:27.14 | Kachingo | mentor: Yes, it seems to be fine |
| 03:27.25 | mentor | Kachingo: Still doesn't work? |
| 03:27.39 | mentor | Kachingo: You have restarted the X server? |
| 03:27.50 | Narg | peterS: cp doesnt work, I added a -R flag, and it started at least. We'll see how it turns out. |
| 03:27.53 | Kachingo | Mentor: No |
| 03:28.05 | mackbeer | i know you probably get this alot nowdays, but any idea when security.d.o will be back to normal again? |
| 03:28.06 | peterS | Narg: huh? it certainly should have worked, without -R |
| 03:28.17 | mentor | Kachingo: Well, you need to do that for the confiugration to change :) |
| 03:28.23 | peterS | Narg: note I said /dev/cdrom, not /cdrom or /media/cdrom |
| 03:28.37 | Narg | hrm, |
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| 03:28.45 | Kachingo | mentor: but i havent actually changed the configuration. It already has Zaxis mapping |
| 03:29.05 | mentor | Kachingo: OK, so which mouse protocol does it have? |
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| 03:29.09 | TraceGreen | Hello, i try to mount my windows partition(fat32)with rw, and i can delete files. but, when i am deleting large files, mount become ro, i can't delete anymore, Does anyone know why? |
| 03:29.19 | Kachingo | mentor: PS/2 |
| 03:29.38 | peterS | Kachingo: if 'generic mouse' fails it should be just a warning, not an error |
| 03:30.02 | peterS | Kachingo: but you can suppress even the warning by loading the kernel 'mousedev' module |
| 03:30.03 | mentor | Kachingo: There's no scroll wheel information in that protocol, you need to use imPS/2 at least |
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| 03:30.52 | Kachingo | mentor: Generic mouse is imPS/2, but it fails to load |
| 03:31.18 | peterS | Kachingo: this is kernel 2.4 and a PS/2 mouse? |
| 03:31.30 | peterS | Kachingo: if so, ignore the 'generic mouse' entry, it will do nothing for you |
| 03:31.46 | nedz | activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 03:31.49 | Kachingo | how do you check what kernel it is? |
| 03:31.51 | nedz | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 03:31.57 | mentor | Feh, getting hit by the 'invalid lvalue in increment' bug in arch/i386/kernel/emu.c in Linux. Does anyone know a workaround? |
| 03:32.04 | peterS | Kachingo: uname -r |
| 03:32.10 | danieldg | TraceGreen: the drive is probably being remounted readonly because of an error, mount -o remount,rw will change it back. How large is 'large'? |
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| 03:32.40 | Kachingo | yeah, its 2.4 |
| 03:32.59 | Kachingo | and ps/2 |
| 03:33.30 | peterS | Kachingo: so ignore the 'generic mouse' entry then. the 'configured mouse' should be device "/dev/psaux" and protocol "ImPS/2" probably |
| 03:34.04 | mentor | "What's a workaround?", even. |
| 03:34.10 | peterS | Kachingo: and if the mouse is less than about 4 years old, you can use protocol "ExplorerPS/2" instead, which lets you use up to 5 buttons (ImPS/2 has a limit of 3 buttons and a wheel) |
| 03:34.23 | Kachingo | no. configured mouse is PS/2, not imPS/2, can i just change it in the file? |
| 03:34.38 | peterS | Kachingo: easiest to do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 03:34.47 | peterS | Kachingo: but either way |
| 03:34.48 | Kachingo | yeah, thats wat i was thinking |
| 03:34.57 | Kachingo | ok,. so change the protocol? |
| 03:35.14 | Kachingo | iv got to go now, thanks for the help peter2 & mentor |
| 03:35.16 | Kachingo | bye |
| 03:35.26 | mentor | er |
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| 03:38.43 | reter | how can i configure x? |
| 03:38.52 | deadcat | !drxx |
| 03:38.53 | dpkg | drxx is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 03:45.10 | mentor | return i++ seems wrong to me |
| 03:45.32 | peterS | mentor: if i is a local variable, it *is* wrong, in that it's confusing (it's equivalent to return i) |
| 03:46.31 | reter | hi peter |
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| 03:46.47 | peterS | aloha |
| 03:47.16 | tawfik | Could you please tell me how to use my pendrive with debian? |
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| 03:47.30 | deadcat | tawfik: mount |
| 03:47.53 | tawfik | yes, but what? |
| 03:48.07 | deadcat | tawfik: cat /proc/partitions |
| 03:48.16 | tawfik | and, can it handle it if it is FAT? |
| 03:48.22 | peterS | tawfik: sure |
| 03:48.24 | deadcat | tawfik: if you load the module |
| 03:48.38 | bob2 | tawfik: if you use gnome or kde, all you need to do is plug it in |
| 03:49.06 | tawfik | i plugged it in(i'm using gnome), but nottin seems to happen |
| 03:49.11 | deadcat | bob2: thats not a distro thing? its a gnome/kde thing? |
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| 03:49.49 | peterS | deadcat: it's a collaboration of several pieces of software |
| 03:50.04 | deadcat | peterS: ah. |
| 03:50.13 | bob2 | deadcat: the kernel tells udev that there's a device, who tells hal who tells gnome-volume-manager who mounts it |
| 03:50.15 | peterS | the kernel, hotplug, dbus, gnome-volume-manager |
| 03:50.23 | peterS | right, or something like that |
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| 03:51.13 | tawfik | hmm, so, I do cat /proc/partitions and it shows me some volumes |
| 03:51.18 | tawfik | what's next? |
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| 03:51.40 | deadcat | tawfik: usually mount /dev/sda1 /mnt |
| 03:51.54 | peterS | now now, that only works if you already have the vfat module loaded |
| 03:52.07 | deadcat | thats why i said usually (= |
| 03:52.19 | peterS | why would a unix user "usually" have vfat loaded, then? |
| 03:52.26 | tawfik | and, how do i load it? |
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| 03:53.05 | peterS | tawfik: you can load it implicitly by specifying the filesystem type: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt |
| 03:53.53 | tawfik | it says: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block drive |
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| 03:54.20 | hailey | Can someone tell me how to search for a flash toom? |
| 03:54.22 | hailey | room? |
| 03:54.33 | tawfik | do you know how i can fix that please? |
| 03:54.35 | deadcat | hailey: /list flash |
| 03:54.41 | hailey | thank you! |
| 03:55.00 | peterS | tawfik: what kernel version? |
| 03:55.03 | peterS | (uname -r) |
| 03:55.17 | deadcat | tawfik: modprobe vfat |
| 03:55.25 | fjkadfooo | I want to host files off of my Linux box to people on the Internet. I have Apache installed but don't understand it. Any help/ |
| 03:55.25 | nvz | will the kernel module autoloader f.e. load the filesystem module when you mount and its not loaded, or is that only for loading module dependancies? |
| 03:55.30 | peterS | deadcat: that's not his problem |
| 03:55.47 | peterS | nvz: yeah, when you say '-t foobar' it will attempt to load a module 'foobar' |
| 03:55.47 | tawfik | it think it is 2.64 |
| 03:55.53 | bob2 | fjkadfooo: what part confuses you? |
| 03:56.23 | tawfik | no |
| 03:56.28 | peterS | tawfik: well, 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 are the most likely possibilities. but I only care whether it is 2.4.something or 2.6.something |
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| 03:56.29 | tawfik | kernel: 2.47 |
| 03:56.42 | deadcat | tawfik: make sure. dont guess |
| 03:56.45 | tawfik | damn, i missed: 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 03:56.49 | tawfik | this is for sure |
| 03:57.04 | peterS | tawfik: so. you'll need to load the USB host controller driver, which depends on your hardware. so run this: lspci -v | awk '/USB/{print $NF}' |
| 03:57.05 | fjkadfooo | I don't know how to set it up. I'm not even going to mess with DNS right now, I want to be able to host files and have some people download them. Do I just make user www, chmod the directory, and then everything in that folder is the website? |
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| 03:57.24 | peterS | tawfik: it will tell you UHCI or OHCI, and possibly it will mention EHCI as well |
| 03:57.27 | nestea | why is it in gnome you cant find anything you need? |
| 03:57.34 | deadcat | fjkadfooo: did you install the apache2 package? |
| 03:57.39 | bob2 | fjkadfooo: no, first install apache or apache2 |
| 03:57.46 | deadcat | nestea: ask #gnome |
| 03:57.50 | tawfik | yeah, it did, mention all the names you mentioned |
| 03:57.52 | bob2 | fjkadfooo: then go to that machine's ip in your web browser |
| 03:57.53 | nestea | lol k:P |
| 03:58.02 | peterS | tawfik: no it didn't. it either said UHCI or OHCI, not both. |
| 03:58.26 | tawfik | let my copy/paste them to you on private |
| 03:58.42 | peterS | tawfik: no, just tell us whether it said UHCI or not, whether it said OHCI or not, whether it said EHCI or not |
| 03:59.03 | tawfik | it said OHCI for USB |
| 03:59.20 | peterS | tawfik: well, if it *did* say both OHCI and UHCI, then you must have an extra USB card in your computer. this is not common. |
| 03:59.20 | nvz | fjkadfooo: if you just want to host files apache is probably way overkill. its for hosting webpages and is highly extensible for doing so |
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| 03:59.40 | fjkadfooo | Apache2 is already installed, I can go to 192.168.0.100 but it just says that I can set up a page. Also, that's only for internal machines...how do I make it so external machines can communicate? Should I forward port 80? But then, forwarding port 80 doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do. |
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| 03:59.59 | deadcat | fjkadfooo: make sure your router is pointing to the right machine |
| 04:00.13 | tawfik | so, what can I do about that? |
| 04:00.18 | peterS | tawfik: so, we'll assume you have all of the above, no real harm done if you don't. do this: 'modprobe usb-ohci' then 'modprobe usb-uhci' then 'modprobe ehci_hcd' |
| 04:00.19 | deadcat | fjkadfooo: if you dont think its a smart thing. the dont do it. |
| 04:00.31 | fjkadfooo | What should I use for just files? I'd like to learn to make and configure and use web servers too, so I think it'd be cool to learn how to use Apache. |
| 04:01.03 | fjkadfooo | Is there a good website that walks me through all this? I looked for about thirty minutes and I didn't find anything good ;( |
| 04:01.09 | deadcat | fjkadfooo: then use it.. |
| 04:01.09 | dizzy | joj |
| 04:01.13 | nimak | how do i go about removing a user? |
| 04:01.18 | peterS | nimak: deluser |
| 04:01.28 | nimak | thanks |
| 04:01.34 | tawfik | it says: modprobe: Can't locate module ehci_hcd |
| 04:01.39 | deadcat | nimak: userdel -r |
| 04:01.48 | peterS | tawfik: maybe it's called ehci-hcd with a hyphen, I can't remember now |
| 04:02.07 | tawfik | ok, no errors whatsoever now |
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| 04:02.28 | peterS | tawfik: so anyway, now your USB ports should work. next you need support for USB disks: |
| 04:02.37 | peterS | tawfik: 'modprobe usb_storage' and 'modprobe sd_mod' |
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| 04:03.00 | Shadda | Hey, does anyone have any link or tip on setting up a vps on an existing linux installation? I'm not finding what I want on google...just guides for installing software ON a vps |
| 04:03.17 | tawfik | ok |
| 04:03.19 | tawfik | it workd |
| 04:03.34 | peterS | tawfik: ok so now /dev/sda1 should be available. 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt' |
| 04:03.40 | witless | has anyone gotten jabber1.4 with TLS working on sarge? |
| 04:03.48 | tawfik | same problem |
| 04:03.52 | nvz | peterS: they were calling them *hci-hcd but I think that sounded too redundant to them so they went with usb-*hci because Universal Serial Bus Host Controller Interface sounds better than Host Controller Interface Host Controller Dervice or whatever it was |
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| 04:04.02 | tawfik | mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 04:04.24 | peterS | nvz: other way around. usb-uhci and usb-ohci became uhci-hcd and ohci-hcd between kernel 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 04:04.38 | peterS | tawfik: does 'cat /proc/partitions' mention anything about /dev/sda? |
| 04:04.59 | roler | I am looking for a very cool, transparent possibly type theme for my gnome/metacity desktop. I am bored with the ones on art.gnome.org, www.themes.org, www.gnome-look.org etc.... Anyone know of any other sources for themes, maybe even an independent developer ? |
| 04:05.21 | nvz | peterS: no it was uhci (2.4) -> uhci-hcd (early 2.6) -> usb-uhci (circa 2.6.7 IIRC) |
| 04:05.42 | tawfik | no, all of them except one(which says 'hdc') say: ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/ |
| 04:05.47 | peterS | nvz: no, 'uhci' and 'usb-uhci' are two competing drivers in kernel 2.4 - they were combined into uhci-hcd in kernel 2.6 |
| 04:05.50 | nvz | peterS: no wait you are right |
| 04:05.55 | tawfik | and: scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc |
| 04:06.30 | peterS | tawfik: bah, I thought that bug was fixed |
| 04:06.39 | nvz | peterS: for some reason I though I still had 2.6 kernels on these computers |
| 04:06.47 | tawfik | so there's a bug? |
| 04:06.59 | tawfik | is there anything i can do about it? |
| 04:07.02 | peterS | tawfik: it's a bug in the reporting of /proc/partitions, it uses devfs names rather than non-devfs names |
| 04:07.26 | nvz | tawfik: you can run around screaming. I don't know how productive it would be though |
| 04:07.34 | tawfik | :)) |
| 04:07.39 | dizzy | tawfik: you are missing a kernel module, usb or filesystem such as vfat probably |
| 04:07.54 | peterS | dizzy: scroll up, we covered that |
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| 04:08.06 | dizzy | sorry ;-) |
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| 04:08.34 | tawfik | any other ideas? :D |
| 04:08.38 | peterS | tawfik: so there are just one or two scsi entries at the bottom of the list? or how many scsi entries? |
| 04:08.40 | tawfik | non-screaming ideas |
| 04:08.50 | tawfik | 1, at the top of the list |
| 04:08.52 | peterS | I do like nvz's suggestion, but it might not help you use your usb drive very fast |
| 04:09.09 | peterS | tawfik: and that's what, again? make sure to type all the numbers correctly |
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| 04:09.28 | tawfik | PeterS: 8 0 246912 scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 2 3 10 160 0 0 0 0 0 160 160 |
| 04:09.55 | peterS | tawfik: ugh, with the disk stats and everything. I wonder about "host1", I don't understand why it is not "host0". but anyway. |
| 04:10.01 | nvz | peterS: worked for me, but mine was my little memorex mp3 player. has internal flash and a flash drive for MMC/SD cards it worked without a problem though, and I just ran around screaming anyhow cause I had headphones on and tunes playing |
| 04:10.17 | peterS | tawfik: so, try it: mount -t vfat /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc /mnt |
| 04:10.46 | tawfik | PeterS: mount: special device /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc does not exist |
| 04:11.06 | peterS | tawfik: hmmph. so, mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt |
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| 04:11.11 | peterS | tawfik: I should have suggested that earlier |
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| 04:12.04 | tawfik | ok |
| 04:12.06 | tawfik | it works |
| 04:12.08 | tawfik | thanks :D |
| 04:12.16 | tawfik | thank you very much |
| 04:12.19 | peterS | tawfik: there you go. now, to avoid all this trouble next time you boot....... |
| 04:12.19 | tawfik | it works now |
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| 04:12.24 | tawfik | ok |
| 04:12.40 | nvz | you should mount your removable media to /media/ somewhere make a dir if you must inside there and perhaps add it to fstab with desired options |
| 04:12.48 | peterS | tawfik: you can add several lines to /etc/modules: usb-uhci usb-ohci ehci-hcd usb_storage sd_mod |
| 04:13.00 | peterS | tawfik: those are all separate lines. it makes those modules load automatically at boot time |
| 04:13.04 | tawfik | explain please |
| 04:13.11 | nvz | most desktop environments will interact with removable media mounted to /media/ better like showing it on the desktop and such |
| 04:13.21 | tawfik | ok, so which option is best? |
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| 04:13.35 | tawfik | and how do I use that option, step by step? |
| 04:13.51 | guevolt | Hi. I'm looking for a synonymous for chairman. Any idea? |
| 04:13.55 | peterS | tawfik: right, you probably want to do as nvz says: 'mkdir /media/usb' and then add a line to /etc/fstab: "/dev/sda /media/usb vfat user,noauto 0 0" |
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| 04:14.33 | nvz | you want more options that that or else its user mountable but wont be writable and maybe not even readable |
| 04:14.35 | peterS | guevolt: in context of a meeting? or meaning "a group leader" or "a communist party leader"? |
| 04:14.35 | tawfik | how do I add those lines? |
| 04:14.40 | deadcat | peterS: his next response is "i am a newb" |
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| 04:14.49 | peterS | tawfik: using a text editor such as nano |
| 04:14.52 | tawfik | ok |
| 04:14.54 | deadcat | tawfik: with an editor |
| 04:14.55 | nvz | or echo |
| 04:15.04 | tawfik | will AbiWord work? |
| 04:15.09 | peterS | ecco i ligni |
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| 04:15.23 | peterS | tawfik: maybe but abiword is pretty huge for that sort of purpose |
| 04:15.23 | deadcat | nvz: dont confuse him with echo |
| 04:15.26 | guevolt | peterS: humm. thanks. |
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| 04:15.55 | nvz | deadcat: he's liable to do more damage with abiword. provided he even figures out how to do such a thing. |
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| 04:16.00 | peterS | guevolt: I just asked you which kind of chairman |
| 04:16.17 | peterS | nvz: if only abiword would refuse to run as root. but it probably will run |
| 04:16.20 | guevolt | peterS: no exist a word for chairman in portuguese. chairman = president in portuguese. |
| 04:16.25 | nvz | at least with echo you can be sure you are just appending a line and that you keep a newline at the end of the file easily |
| 04:16.26 | blah123 | I know I'm going to be bitch at, but is there a proper way to install rpm on debian and not have that error saying to use alien? |
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| 04:16.45 | deadcat | nvz: my advise for him is not to use debian at all but if i say that, some bitchy ops will tell me to shutup |
| 04:16.47 | nvz | nothing worse than hand editing and forgetting to leave a newline |
| 04:16.47 | guevolt | peterS: a group leader |
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| 04:17.14 | nvz | deadcat: we will all tell you to shut up. in fact lets just do it anyhow :P |
| 04:17.17 | nvz | shut up, deadcat |
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| 04:17.52 | deadcat | )= |
| 04:17.59 | blah123 | anyone? |
| 04:18.04 | peterS | guevolt: well, it depends on what type of group, but a group could have a president, or a chairman/chairwoman/chairperson, or an organizer, or a group representative..... |
| 04:18.04 | nvz | dpkg, anyone? |
| 04:18.05 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 04:18.12 | gravity | tawfik: You should really learn a real editor like vim or emacs. At the very least, nano for things like that |
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| 04:18.29 | delcides | hi - does anyone here use gkrellmss || alsa ? |
| 04:18.39 | gravity | tawfik: You should google around for the difference between a text editor and a word processor. Abiword is a word processor, and it's totallly inappropriate for this sort of thing. |
| 04:18.40 | deadcat | delcides: maybe some |
| 04:18.41 | peterS | blah123: why do you want to? |
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| 04:19.02 | tawfik | I used pico |
| 04:19.08 | nvz | some people have a natual desire to be difficuly |
| 04:19.08 | blah123 | to build a basic rpm distro |
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| 04:19.13 | peterS | blah123: the whole point of rpm is to keep track of packages and not let different overlapping packages be installed at once. on debian, rpm without alien does not accomplish this |
| 04:19.14 | cheal | libc5 was removed from sid!! :) |
| 04:19.15 | nvz | s/y/t/ |
| 04:19.16 | blah123 | using uml, xen, or vserver |
| 04:19.17 | tawfik | gravity: I have used pico |
| 04:19.23 | tawfik | I like it more |
| 04:19.31 | peterS | cheal: w00t! I heard people talking about that a couple weeks ago, I wondered if it would ever happen |
| 04:19.32 | gravity | tawfik: pico is nano on Debian. |
| 04:19.45 | gravity | tawfik: pico itself is non-free, and nano is a clone of it that is Free. |
| 04:19.53 | deadcat | gravity: 6.9 out in experimental yet? |
| 04:19.54 | tawfik | i just typed pico, it worked :D |
| 04:19.56 | delcides | deadcat: alsa works fine for xmms and mplayer but gkrellmss ( VU meter plugin) has problems |
| 04:19.58 | gravity | deadcat: Yes |
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| 04:20.03 | gravity | deadcat: A while ago |
| 04:20.08 | peterS | blah123: if you really want to build an rpm distro you probably want to use the 'rpmstrap' debian package |
| 04:20.12 | blah123 | ls -al /usr/bin/pico its prolly symlinked |
| 04:20.17 | deadcat | delcides: i said some, i dont use gkrellm <- shit |
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| 04:20.20 | blah123 | rpmstrap? |
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| 04:20.21 | blah123 | hmmm |
| 04:20.22 | gravity | readlink `which pico` :-) |
| 04:20.24 | deadcat | gravity: but not ppc right? |
| 04:20.25 | blah123 | sounds promosing |
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| 04:20.28 | peterS | blah123: which apparently doesn't exist in unstable *quite* yet, though it's coming real soon now |
| 04:20.28 | blah123 | promising |
| 04:20.29 | nvz | tawfik: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 17 12:35 /usr/bin/pico -> /bin/nano |
| 04:20.37 | blah123 | omg |
| 04:20.37 | gravity | deadcat: No, not yet. I haven't fixed the build yet. Soon hopefully, it's near the top of my list. |
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| 04:20.42 | blah123 | you suck, get my hopes all up |
| 04:20.45 | gravity | I want to put 6.8 away forever |
| 04:20.45 | deadcat | gravity: cool. |
| 04:20.47 | blah123 | lol |
| 04:20.53 | peterS | blah123: well, I thought it was in unstable, then I just now checked and it's not |
| 04:21.01 | peterS | blah123: it was announced a week or two ago |
| 04:21.02 | blah123 | is there source code? |
| 04:21.10 | blah123 | shti I'll compile from source, it doesn't have to be a .deb |
| 04:21.24 | peterS | blah123: http://bugs.debian.org/327081 |
| 04:21.25 | gravity | So I'm on the last q&a bits I'm going to do for 6.8, and then go full force in to getting 6.9 up on all arches. Then on to 7.0 in the meantime. |
| 04:21.28 | tawfik | ok, thanks guys, thanks a lot :D |
| 04:21.38 | tawfik | I was really helpless |
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| 04:21.53 | inkypinky | has anyone been sucessful in using fbsplash with amd64 debian kernel |
| 04:22.09 | cheal | peterS: how long do you think libc6 stays? :) |
| 04:22.27 | peterS | cheal: ha. they removed it from the alpha architecture *years* ago |
| 04:22.33 | peterS | cheal: (on alpha the package is named libc6.1) |
| 04:22.39 | blah123 | not worth not worth |
| 04:22.41 | cheal | ah, didn't think about that |
| 04:22.42 | blah123 | +ys |
| 04:22.43 | peterS | hehe |
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| 04:22.43 | blah123 | :) |
| 04:22.49 | blah123 | this looks awesome |
| 04:23.30 | peterS | blah123: yeah, I guess the reason it's not in unstable yet is the controversy stirred up about whether it's copied from debootstrap without attribution to AJ Towns |
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| 04:24.21 | rwong | greets |
| 04:24.31 | rwong | looking for a .deb ninja who wants to make a few bucks |
| 04:25.01 | peterS | rwong: what's the gig? |
| 04:25.05 | deadcat | rwong: no recruiting here |
| 04:25.12 | rwong | deadcat: what's the best way to do so? |
| 04:25.24 | deadcat | rwong: craigslist.org |
| 04:25.31 | deadcat | rwong: or just ask for help |
| 04:25.39 | cheal | no ninja, but who knows if mafiaboy used debian... he was a hacker after all |
| 04:25.56 | rwong | deadcat: I don't have time to do what #debian tells me I should do in this instance |
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| 04:26.28 | deadcat | rwong: i see. well i guess thats where your $$ comes in then. $ will solve all your linux problem |
| 04:26.46 | rwong | s/linux/debian/ :) |
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| 04:30.32 | tawfik | Peters: one more thing, do you know how I delete files on the usb drive? |
| 04:30.54 | peterS | tawfik: once it is mounted on /mnt or /media/usb you just remove files in that location, same as you would anywhere else on your filesystem |
| 04:31.16 | maher | rwong: if you tell us your problem we may give you more useless advice |
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| 04:31.37 | tawfik | it doesn't have the "move to wasteless" option, or cut, or anything like that |
| 04:31.40 | tawfik | I am using gnome, btw |
| 04:31.41 | rwong | maher: haha |
| 04:31.46 | peterS | Daveman: ha. believe it or not I don't |
| 04:31.58 | Daveman | wow, really? -- I would have thought... |
| 04:32.09 | tawfik | PeterS: I think, I foun the problem |
| 04:32.16 | peterS | tawfik: you really should be able to use the same tools you use on other filesystems. if nothing else, the 'rm' command |
| 04:32.51 | gravity | tawfik: You have to empty the trash before unmounting your USB drive if you simply move the file to the trash in gnome |
| 04:33.00 | tawfik | PeterS: I need to modify permissions, thanks, u helped me a lot |
| 04:33.05 | chealer_ | I could do more debugging and wait to have better diagnosis, but since I can't reproduce at will, I'm asking about a PPPoE excessive ping problem. I have 1 sarge and 1 etch box at home. sometimes the average ping to the PPPoE concentrator jumps by about 50 ms (70 ms instead of 20). |
| 04:33.44 | chealer_ | until now I've always solved the problem with some hacking, like /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 04:33.47 | chealer_ | bbl |
| 04:33.55 | peterS | tawfik: you can't modify permissions with the usual tools. what you *can* do is add that line to /etc/fstab, then *as the normal user* mount the drive |
| 04:34.20 | peterS | tawfik: when you do that, the 'mount' command lets that user own all the files on the USB drive. since the FAT filesystem doesn't have a concept of 'file owner'. |
| 04:35.17 | Wyzard | peterS: Probably not necessary ... GNOME auto-mounts devices using pmount |
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| 04:35.28 | peterS | Wyzard: it didn't though, we had him mount it by hand |
| 04:35.46 | gravity | g-v-m is love when it's not hate |
| 04:35.56 | tawfik | When I installed the drive, I did it as root, now, I already added those commands, but anyways, I was operating as root from terminal, else I am a user |
| 04:36.01 | Wyzard | It depends on udev, which depends on 2.6 |
| 04:36.07 | Wyzard | but it seems to me that it works fine |
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| 04:36.20 | chealer_ | about my problem, I'm not sure it's Debian yet but does someone suspect something Debian? |
| 04:36.48 | chealer_ | ping average could increase (bug) say twice a day |
| 04:37.00 | peterS | tawfik: if you added the /etc/fstab line the way I typed it, you can 'umount /mnt' as root then, as your normal user, 'mount /media/usb' |
| 04:37.23 | tawfik | I know, thanks :) |
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| 04:39.15 | guevolt | Hi. have diference between chairman and president ? |
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| 04:41.15 | Jimmy07 | guys ive read the man pages but still dont understand |
| 04:41.58 | Jimmy07 | ive ran some processes in background using the & command |
| 04:42.05 | Jimmy07 | how do i bring them back into foreground? |
| 04:42.07 | nvz | fg |
| 04:42.23 | chealer_ | president is more experimental |
| 04:42.23 | Jimmy07 | ive looked into that |
| 04:42.28 | peterS | Jimmy07: 'jobs' to list the jobs, then 'fg %1' to bring %1 to the foreground, etc. |
| 04:42.37 | peterS | Jimmy07: or just '%1' for short, it means the same as 'fg %1' |
| 04:42.53 | Jimmy07 | jobs doesnt display anything |
| 04:42.58 | Jimmy07 | thats whats confusing me |
| 04:43.11 | peterS | Jimmy07: if jobs displays nothing, then those '&' processes must have exited already, or perhaps they're in a different terminal |
| 04:43.15 | nvz | Jimmy07: did you close the shell you ran them from? |
| 04:43.22 | Jimmy07 | yes |
| 04:43.23 | guevolt | chealer: just this ? |
| 04:43.30 | nvz | Jimmy07: did you run them with nohup? |
| 04:43.35 | peterS | Jimmy07: once you've closed the shell you launched a job from, it is disconnected from all terminals |
| 04:43.41 | Jimmy07 | no? |
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| 04:43.44 | peterS | Jimmy07: so you can't use job control on them anymore |
| 04:43.51 | Jimmy07 | so i cant bring them back up at all? |
| 04:43.53 | nvz | Jimmy07: they are dead probably if you ran them without nohup |
| 04:43.54 | peterS | correct |
| 04:44.02 | Jimmy07 | nvz no theyre running |
| 04:44.03 | chealer_ | guevolt, you're asking at the wrong place |
| 04:44.06 | Jimmy07 | they are hlds servers |
| 04:44.22 | guevolt | hhe. ok |
| 04:44.25 | peterS | Jimmy07: what you probably wanted to do instead was to run them inside a 'screen' process. so for example 'screen -S hlds1' then inside that, run the job in the foreground |
| 04:44.39 | peterS | Jimmy07: then hit ctrl-a ctrl-d to disconnect, and 'screen -x hlds1' later to reconnect |
| 04:45.04 | Jimmy07 | hmm |
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| 04:45.14 | Jimmy07 | ill read the man pages for screen and see how i go |
| 04:45.16 | Jimmy07 | thanks guy |
| 04:45.16 | peterS | Jimmy07: also, you can run multiple foreground windows in a single screen process, but that's a more advanced topic so maybe you can learn about that later |
| 04:45.18 | Jimmy07 | s |
| 04:45.24 | b|ackwo|f | im having trouble with alsa |
| 04:45.38 | nvz | screen is your terminal's mama |
| 04:45.39 | b|ackwo|f | i cant get it to configure properly. |
| 04:46.11 | Jimmy07 | but will i be able to close the shell and still bring it to foreground later? |
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| 04:46.38 | nvz | Jimmy07: you dont close the shell you run them in the foreground all the time inside a screen session. |
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| 04:46.54 | peterS | Jimmy07: you don't close the shell, you close the screen window. when you do that, screen and your job are still running and you can reconnect later with 'screen -x' |
| 04:47.13 | peterS | Jimmy07: or 'screen -ls' to see what running screen sessions you have |
| 04:47.22 | nvz | Jimmy07: screen will let you run multiple shells and toggle between them, copy/paste between them, detach them, reattach them, multi-attach them..etc |
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| 04:48.02 | tawfik | listen, I've got an odd question |
| 04:48.03 | aboyousif | hi all |
| 04:48.27 | tawfik | when I want to delete a file which has a compound name, how do I do that through the terminal? |
| 04:48.46 | nvz | tawfik: a compound name? heh |
| 04:48.48 | peterS | tawfik: you can put "" around a name |
| 04:48.55 | aboyousif | tawfik: ya3ny eah compund? |
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| 04:49.11 | tawfik | ok, thanks :) |
| 04:49.11 | peterS | tawfik: and if you hit tab while typing the name the shell will complete it for you, including the closing " if you had an opening " |
| 04:49.16 | nvz | tawfik: use the tab key, ffs :P |
| 04:49.50 | nvz | my shell just uses escape sequences, no "" crap |
| 04:50.01 | Jimmy07 | so to turn things in screen itd be "screen -s hlds1 commandtostarthldshere" then i can press ctrl-a ctrl-d to disconnect and later on type "screen-x hlds1" to bring it to foreground? |
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| 04:50.08 | Jimmy07 | run* |
| 04:50.23 | aboyousif | guys, what is the difference between debian and ubuntu ? |
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| 04:50.44 | peterS | aboyousif: ubuntu uses debian as a base but makes their own bugfixes and releases |
| 04:51.17 | chealer_ | aboyousif, there are many. debian is 100% free |
| 04:51.19 | peterS | aboyousif: they are similar in many ways, different in many ways. it's hard to explain. primarily, they use different release processes (and thus release criteria and timetables) and different developers |
| 04:52.05 | Shadda | bah |
| 04:52.24 | peterS | aboyousif: ubuntu is funded commercially and is beholden to its parent company for all its decisions. debian isn't. this has lots of effects. |
| 04:52.29 | Shadda | Anyone know the search criteria for user-mode-linux offhand? I can't seem to find it on the package lists |
| 04:52.45 | peterS | Shadda: apt-cache search kernel uml |
| 04:52.54 | Shadda | danke |
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| 04:53.46 | aboyousif | peterS: but ubuntu is still free, even if it is a commercial distro. |
| 04:54.04 | chealer_ | aboyousif, debian is free, not only as in beer |
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| 04:54.15 | peterS | aboyousif: in a sense, yes. not everything in ubuntu is free software. they *do* make it available without having to pay for it, kind of like Microsoft Internet Explorer |
| 04:55.23 | bob2 | everything in ubuntu-main is Free. the cd includes some non-free drivers in the restricted section, but that's it |
| 04:55.31 | aboyousif | i'm puzzled between ubuntu and debian... some adviced me " if you like debian use ubuntu it is enhanced version of debian." but it seems a different one to me. |
| 04:55.32 | peterS | bob2: ah, thanks for the clarification |
| 04:55.57 | peterS | aboyousif: many things are exactly the same, practically speaking. one difference is the support community: they say #ubuntu is somewhat less helpful than #debian. |
| 04:56.08 | chealer_ | bob2, ^^peterS |
| 04:56.47 | maher | aboyousif: they are different - the main difference is if you use debian ask for help in #debian, if you use ubuntu ask for help in #ubuntu :) |
| 04:56.50 | Pfated | peterS: I thought it was the other way around. :) |
| 04:57.15 | aboyousif | maher: are you arabian :) ? |
| 04:57.16 | peterS | aboyousif: ubuntu picks a fairly small subset of debian packages to support fully, so if you want a choice of lots of esoteric packages, they'll probably be better supported in debian. but the packages ubuntu *does* support, it seems to support quite well |
| 04:57.52 | myren | how do i pattern match the dictionary for regex? |
| 04:57.54 | maher | aboyousif: i'm from the uk, but my surname is irish... |
| 04:58.34 | aboyousif | peterS: so it is debian :) |
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| 04:59.12 | peterS | aboyousif: ubuntu is derived from debian - they couldn't have put together what they have without debian packaging to use as a base. but they sometimes make arbitrary changes to the packages before they ship them. so it's not *really* debian anymore. |
| 04:59.58 | aboyousif | maher: you name sounds like arabic name which means (skillful) |
| 05:00.14 | aboyousif | peterS: i got that, thanks alot for your help |
| 05:00.32 | maher | aboyousif: well - that's better than what in means in irish :) |
| 05:00.33 | Shadda | la la la la la |
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| 05:00.41 | maher | s/in/it/ |
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| 05:01.39 | aboyousif | maher: what is that? |
| 05:03.10 | maher | aboyousif: actually it should really be o'maher which is descendent of maher - but maher probably means hospitable or something like that... |
| 05:03.42 | b|ackwo|f | can anyone give me some more information on alsa, I really cant figure out how to get it configured properly |
| 05:03.45 | peterS | is it pronounced 'mayor'? |
| 05:04.02 | maher | peterS: no - rhymes with car |
| 05:04.07 | peterS | ah, ok |
| 05:04.10 | peterS | that would have been my next guess |
| 05:04.12 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: alsaconf |
| 05:04.55 | Jimmy07 | guys, when trying to run screen i get "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check." |
| 05:05.04 | b|ackwo|f | k thx |
| 05:05.37 | peterS | Jimmy07: possibly this is because you have run 'su' on that terminal, or similar. su has strange interactions with things like screen, which I don't want to explain just now |
| 05:05.49 | b|ackwo|f | k |
| 05:05.54 | b|ackwo|f | its not finding my stuff |
| 05:05.55 | b|ackwo|f | k thx |
| 05:06.11 | Psih0MAN | hi! i just installed debian on a production server and i installed dhcpd. i took a working dhcpd.conf file from another server (for setup speed reasons) and did not work! it complained about some of the configuration options. after that i downloaded dhcpd server from isc and compiled it and it started with my dhcpd.conf file. but does not log to system log. please help urgent. this server is for a shool and it's very important to work! |
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| 05:06.52 | nvz | dpkg, hurry |
| 05:06.52 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
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| 05:07.22 | xixor | ha ha |
| 05:07.26 | bob2 | Psih0MAN: er, shouldn't you look into why it complained about config options? |
| 05:07.27 | Jimmy07 | so i cant su when i want to run screen? lol |
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| 05:07.42 | kenboo | i guess it's a difference of dhcp and dhcp3 |
| 05:07.46 | aboyousif | peterS: it seems like you are a debian guru here. :) |
| 05:07.52 | Psih0MAN | bob2: options were not recognized |
| 05:07.55 | peterS | Jimmy07: you can't 'su' then run screen inside the 'su' session, no, sorry |
| 05:08.09 | bob2 | Psih0MAN: how useful |
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| 05:08.39 | peterS | Jimmy07: I think you can get around this by doing a 'chmod 666' on $(tty) before you 'su'. but that might not be desirable either |
| 05:08.43 | bob2 | Psih0MAN: you know no one else can see your screen, right? |
| 05:08.47 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: copying a working dhcpd.conf from a different build or version may not work. I suggest you read the documentation for the config file and rewrite the config from there |
| 05:08.52 | bob2 | Psih0MAN: you'd need to post your config file and your log files |
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| 05:09.09 | nvz | or take off your tin foil hat so we can read your mind |
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| 05:09.22 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: look in /usr/share/doc/dhcpd-foo/examples |
| 05:09.25 | bob2 | bah vmware |
| 05:09.49 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: also, don't use a custom source build - use the debian package. it does work. |
| 05:09.58 | Psih0MAN | i installed dhcpd with the apt-get command |
| 05:10.12 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: then you installed a source build of it. Uninstall the latter. |
| 05:10.13 | bob2 | dhcp3-server has a far less confusing config file |
| 05:10.14 | bob2 | or did, for me |
| 05:10.22 | Psih0MAN | i have the original debian CDs |
| 05:10.34 | nvz | damn they must be old |
| 05:10.43 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: did you even read what I said about the config file, above? |
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| 05:11.33 | Psih0MAN | i wrote the config file from scratch for dhcpd-3.0 |
| 05:11.49 | Psih0MAN | but another tine |
| 05:11.54 | Psih0MAN | *time |
| 05:12.04 | Guerin | oh |
| 05:12.33 | Psih0MAN | *and my config works well with all other distros i use |
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| 05:12.38 | Guerin | so you're using the same version of dhcpd 3 as the config was written for? How about build options? |
| 05:12.47 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: none of this is relevant. |
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| 05:13.05 | b|ackwo|f | when I start debian it says something like No Volume Controller/Devices, how Do I fix this? |
| 05:13.07 | Psih0MAN | also if i build dhcpd myself from isc sources, it works without complaining |
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| 05:13.19 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: NONE OF THIS IS RELEVANT |
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| 05:13.32 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: the debian package CLEARLY requires something different from what you have. |
| 05:13.32 | Psih0MAN | what is relevant? |
| 05:13.56 | servus | !moo |
| 05:13.56 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 05:13.59 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: it's important that your config file matches the program it's supposed to work with. Yours doesn't. Change one or the other. |
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| 05:14.11 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: start by telling us what the real error is without paraphrasing. |
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| 05:14.28 | b|ackwo|f | k one sec ill be back then I cant remember the exact error |
| 05:14.40 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: i suggest you write a config file for whatever you have installed. If you'd started back when I initially suggested it, you'd probably be halfway done by now. |
| 05:14.56 | nvz | its no wonder so many dell tech support calls end in a zztop |
| 05:15.04 | Guerin | zztop? |
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| 05:15.21 | nvz | thats what they told me one time.. its some program that wipes your shit out and restores it |
| 05:15.33 | mwilson | Ah, reconstruction. :) |
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| 05:16.19 | nestea | No Volume Control Elements and/or devices found. |
| 05:16.36 | nestea | cept none of the upcase letters except for The:) |
| 05:16.48 | Psih0MAN | i have to uninstall the dhcpd and install a deb version and rewrite the config. for that i have to read the 1 km long debian docs about dhcpd.conf from its manual. and the server must be up and running from 16 minutes ago... :( |
| 05:16.58 | nvz | Guerin: you work in the saltmines :P |
| 05:17.11 | mwilson | Psih0MAN: What's so hard about configuring a dhcpd? |
| 05:17.29 | mwilson | Psih0MAN: And why would you have to rewrite the configuration? |
| 05:17.52 | Psih0MAN | mvilson: it's not hard, but the version i have *works* on other platformes |
| 05:18.14 | bob2 | Psih0MAN: configuring dhcp3-server takes about 2 minutes |
| 05:18.38 | mwilson | ISC dhcpd works on just about every platform you can name. |
| 05:18.44 | dondelelcaro | unless you're doing something complicated... |
| 05:18.55 | bob2 | fucking aptitude |
| 05:19.08 | bob2 | "sure, I'll remove that, but first let me remove 50 unrelated packages" |
| 05:19.11 | mwilson | bob2: Yes, it is crap, isn't it? |
| 05:19.12 | Psih0MAN | let me pastebin my file: it has ~ 16 line |
| 05:19.16 | Psih0MAN | lines |
| 05:19.32 | b|ackwo|f | thats the error I get |
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| 05:20.25 | mwilson | hm, three skips on asphalt... that's not bad. |
| 05:20.29 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: ok? this is a single line error I presume from a whole log file of messages? |
| 05:20.53 | b|ackwo|f | no i dont know where the log file is. |
| 05:20.54 | Psih0MAN | here is my dhcpd.conf: http://pastebin.com/376521 |
| 05:21.18 | b|ackwo|f | sec ill see if i can find it |
| 05:21.48 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: is it showing up as the kernel boots? |
| 05:22.02 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: why do you think we're going to debug this for you? |
| 05:22.02 | mwilson | Looks simple enough. |
| 05:22.14 | mwilson | Why're you doing bootp? |
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| 05:22.32 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: what version of dhcpd are you running on a box which works, and which doesn't? The same version? |
| 05:22.33 | maher | help! my installations of debian work just fine! can I have some abuse anyway? |
| 05:22.39 | Guerin | maher: fuck off. |
| 05:22.48 | Guerin | :) |
| 05:22.52 | mwilson | You don't do any setup for it, but you define it. |
| 05:23.04 | peterS | maher: report to Guerin's salt mine for your 12-hour shift |
| 05:23.05 | Psih0MAN | now i don't have debian dhcpd installed: i removed it to install isc-dhcpd |
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| 05:23.23 | b|ackwo|f | nvz: it goes by way to fast for me to read when it boots up |
| 05:23.24 | peterS | Psih0MAN: why? |
| 05:23.26 | mwilson | "debian dhcpd" is a nonsense statement. "Debian dhcpd" *is* ISC dhcpd. |
| 05:23.29 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: you continually refuse to answer my question or take my advice |
| 05:23.46 | b|ackwo|f | nvz: im not gonna claim to know alot about linux but this is kinda weird..^^; |
| 05:23.56 | Psih0MAN | Guerin: i compiled and run the latest version (3.0.3) of dhcpd on slackware and gentoo |
| 05:24.00 | mwilson | Psih0MAN: Why're you doing 'dynamic-pootp' ? |
| 05:24.02 | Guerin | it appears my shift in the salt mines has been cancelled: one of the .. um formen is in there doing a demonstration to some ... mining corporation officials |
| 05:24.08 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: its in /var/log/dmesg and does the machine boot, and is there anything other than that message wrong? |
| 05:24.16 | peterS | Psih0MAN: why were you not satisfied with debian's own packaging of ISC dhcpd? |
| 05:24.16 | mwilson | bootp, even. |
| 05:24.17 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: ok, and your configu file works with those? |
| 05:24.21 | Psih0MAN | yes |
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| 05:24.47 | b|ackwo|f | everything else seems to work fine |
| 05:24.54 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: now, what PRECISE and SPECIFIC version are you running on debian, and if you can handle that, what differs as regards the options and patches it was compiled with? |
| 05:24.56 | b|ackwo|f | sec |
| 05:25.06 | Psih0MAN | peterS: because it complaines about the standard config file |
| 05:25.11 | Guerin | peterS: his config file doesn't work with it, for reasons unknown |
| 05:25.16 | mwilson | 'allow booting' is ignored when not in a host declaration. |
| 05:25.18 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: well what did you do to cause the "error" and "who cares" ? |
| 05:25.23 | mwilson | Why do you have it as a global? |
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| 05:25.30 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: yeah, a file that you wrote is a STANDARD, sure it is. |
| 05:25.44 | mwilson | Or at all, since it's the default? |
| 05:26.04 | Psih0MAN | Guerin : i have debian sarge installed with the standard method |
| 05:26.05 | b|ackwo|f | it doesnt tell me to do anything |
| 05:26.14 | b|ackwo|f | it just tells me that and says "Close" on the buttonm |
| 05:26.16 | b|ackwo|f | button* |
| 05:26.34 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: so this happens in X? |
| 05:26.35 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: bah,. Just answer the freaking question. |
| 05:26.41 | mwilson | 'ping-check true' is also the default. |
| 05:26.53 | Psih0MAN | debian sarge stable |
| 05:26.55 | b|ackwo|f | ya |
| 05:26.57 | b|ackwo|f | gnome |
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| 05:27.04 | Guerin | !info dhcpd sarge |
| 05:27.09 | b|ackwo|f | i log into gnome and it pops up |
| 05:27.18 | Guerin | <dpkg> Package 'dhcpd' does not exist. |
| 05:27.21 | mwilson | And why in the world are you using 'server-identifier' ? |
| 05:27.24 | Psih0MAN | after installing debian i did apt-get install dhcpd |
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| 05:27.30 | Psih0MAN | installed successfully |
| 05:27.33 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: so, do I have to guess? It seems YOU are guessing. |
| 05:27.36 | mwilson | Man, *I* know more about configuring dhcpd than you do. |
| 05:27.55 | mwilson | That this configuration file works is purely accidental. |
| 05:27.57 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: open gnome-terminal and run "killall gnome-panel" and tell me if the error happens again |
| 05:28.02 | peterS | does 'dhcpd' exist on any debian version? you should be using 'dhcp3-server' |
| 05:28.10 | b|ackwo|f | k |
| 05:28.16 | Guerin | but he DOESN'T KNOW |
| 05:28.17 | Psih0MAN | i did't care what version of dhcpd debian tried to install, i cared about to work |
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| 05:28.25 | Guerin | !moron Psih0MAN |
| 05:28.27 | dpkg | Psih0MAN: You are moron #62 |
| 05:28.35 | peterS | Psih0MAN: we want to know what you installed. if you didn't install dhcp3-server, we want to know what you did install |
| 05:28.45 | Psih0MAN | when it didn't, i removed it and compiled from sources |
| 05:28.45 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: and how, exactly, will it work if it's the wrong fucking version for your config file? |
| 05:28.52 | peterS | Psih0MAN: if *you* don't know what package you installed which failed to work, I'm afraid we can't do much to help you |
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| 05:29.22 | b|ackwo|f | yes |
| 05:29.26 | b|ackwo|f | popped up again |
| 05:29.43 | Psih0MAN | are there more than one version of dhcpd for debian sarge? |
| 05:29.51 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: sounds to me like your volume control applet is complaining due to misconfiguration of some sort |
| 05:29.51 | Guerin | YES |
| 05:29.56 | Psih0MAN | on debian CDs |
| 05:29.56 | Guerin | !info dhcp sarge |
| 05:29.58 | dpkg | dhcp: (DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0pl5-19.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 304 kB |
| 05:29.59 | b|ackwo|f | i see |
| 05:30.03 | Guerin | version 2 |
| 05:30.08 | Guerin | you have a config file for version 3 |
| 05:30.22 | Guerin | AS I SAID about 20 minutes ago |
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| 05:30.56 | Psih0MAN | maybe then i should try to get the 3'rd version |
| 05:31.09 | peterS | Psih0MAN: right. uninstall the one you built from source, and install 'dhcp3-server'. |
| 05:31.14 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: it cannot find any sound devices. you will either have to remove it from your panel or configure it properly for whatever sound system you have |
| 05:31.28 | peterS | Psih0MAN: then if *that* doesn't work, fix your config file - mwilson seems to have plenty of suggestions for things in it that are not correct or not optimal |
| 05:31.30 | b|ackwo|f | intel |
| 05:31.36 | b|ackwo|f | intergrated stuff |
| 05:31.37 | b|ackwo|f | -_-; |
| 05:31.47 | nvz | b|ackwo|f: thats not what I am talking about |
| 05:31.52 | b|ackwo|f | i know |
| 05:31.56 | b|ackwo|f | i gotta configure it |
| 05:32.10 | b|ackwo|f | thats jsut what i got and its going to be a pain |
| 05:32.11 | Psih0MAN | what other files do i need to modify besides dhcpd.conf, for the packaged version to work? |
| 05:32.12 | b|ackwo|f | :) |
| 05:32.30 | peterS | Psih0MAN: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf is all you normally need |
| 05:32.35 | Guerin | Psih0MAN: the packaged version will work without you modifying ANY files whatsoever |
| 05:32.43 | teapak | intel? is intel still alive? |
| 05:32.52 | b|ackwo|f | unfortunatly |
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| 05:32.56 | peterS | Psih0MAN: when you install dhcp3-server, a skeleton dhcpd.conf is put in place. you may wish to just use that, modified for your local setup |
| 05:32.59 | nvz | its never been alive, its been inside |
| 05:33.24 | peterS | nvz: every CPU they ship has the blue man group in it, dancing and doing techno music |
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| 05:33.44 | Psih0MAN | thak you all for help and called names :) |
| 05:33.56 | nvz | peterS: ah, thats with my bridge is so noisy |
| 05:34.05 | peterS | nvz: yep |
| 05:34.06 | teapak | little blue man vs. green man? |
| 05:34.33 | teapak | where is the red man? |
| 05:34.42 | peterS | teapak: intel uses the Blue Man Group in some of their TV ads. I don't know about red and green men |
| 05:34.51 | nvz | he's probably getting high with method man |
| 05:34.52 | teapak | I know |
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| 05:35.05 | Guerin | method man and the blue man group? Can't see it. |
| 05:35.06 | peterS | maybe the Dave man knows |
| 05:35.27 | teapak | the red man will beat blue/green men |
| 05:35.29 | tawfik | grepper: I finished installing KDE, how do I run it? cause, if I logoff and type startx it still starts gnome directly |
| 05:35.34 | Guerin | ah, I get to watch the Scorsese documentary on bob dylan tonight |
| 05:35.44 | b|ackwo|f | should be under session |
| 05:35.57 | b|ackwo|f | log out and goto session and KDE should be in the list |
| 05:36.10 | Guerin | b|ackwo|f: wtf is "session"? |
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| 05:36.21 | b|ackwo|f | oh hes probally using KDM:0l |
| 05:36.22 | b|ackwo|f | lol |
| 05:36.26 | b|ackwo|f | i use gdm |
| 05:36.38 | b|ackwo|f | its what you choose for enviroments |
| 05:36.45 | Guerin | tawfik: comment out whatever line is starting gnome, and replace it with exec startkde |
| 05:36.45 | b|ackwo|f | gnome, enlightenment, kde, blackbox, etc |
| 05:37.05 | Guerin | b|ackwo|f: if you actually think about it, he's using neither. Can you do 'startx' from kdm? I can't. |
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| 05:37.44 | Guerin | tawfik: in .xsession or .xinitrc, i mean |
| 05:38.57 | jbroome | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:39.00 | jbroome | sorry |
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| 05:42.02 | Psih0MAN | how do i restart a service in "debian way"? |
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| 05:42.25 | sussudio_ | Psih0MAN: while holding a badger |
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| 05:42.59 | coreid | help topic |
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| 05:44.02 | coreid | help |
| 05:44.08 | vhuren | when trying to build a package I get the error dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: sysutils how can If ix this |
| 05:44.09 | vhuren | ? |
| 05:44.43 | sussudio_ | vhuren: take a wild guess |
| 05:45.01 | sussudio_ | !b-e vhuren |
| 05:45.02 | dpkg | vhuren: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 05:45.34 | vhuren | ok thnx sussudio :) |
| 05:46.15 | vhuren | still I get the error |
| 05:46.28 | jbroome | Psih0MAN: /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart |
| 05:46.39 | mwilson | sysutils is a dep of build-essentials¿ |
| 05:46.48 | mwilson | ok, where'd THAT come from? |
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| 05:48.00 | vhuren | ii build-essentia 10.1 informational list of build-essential packag |
| 05:48.03 | vhuren | i have that installed |
| 05:48.16 | mwilson | vhuren: Gee, do you think... just maybe... since it's saying that it doesn't have sysutils... perhaps if you INSTALL that... the problem will go away? |
| 05:48.19 | Guerin | vhuren: apt-get build-dep whateverpackageyouwanttoinstall |
| 05:48.31 | vhuren | ahh.. k |
| 05:48.38 | vhuren | sorry I am new to this |
| 05:48.54 | mwilson | vhuren: I know it's a really hard concept to grasp... actually READING the message... but I'm sure you can do it. |
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| 05:49.59 | vhuren | ahh.. thjank you sir ;) |
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| 05:50.14 | vhuren | was typing in the wrong terminal |
| 05:50.14 | vhuren | hehe |
| 05:50.26 | justin420 | hi, i am trying to get my hp psc 500 to work; i can get just the scanning part to work, or just the printing part. i get the scanning to work with hpoj and xsane, and for just printing just the hplip works... anyone have any ideas?? |
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| 05:51.18 | greyson | I'm lost: Trying to find the debian configurator for grub on an already-working system which currently uses lilo. |
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| 05:51.37 | greyson | (sarge, btw) |
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| 05:51.50 | mwilson | Then grub isn't installed. |
| 05:51.57 | greyson | I just apt |
| 05:51.59 | greyson | -got it. |
| 05:52.19 | Guerin | greyson: there is none, and none is necessary |
| 05:52.19 | mwilson | So look at the list of files included in the package. |
| 05:52.40 | mwilson | Guerin: What does he think he means by "Debian configurator"? |
| 05:52.44 | Guerin | greyson: you want to look at grub-install and update-grub |
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| 05:52.58 | Guerin | mwilson: i think he thinks he means a debconf widget or three |
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| 05:53.33 | greyson | mwilson: I've been doing installs on other systems, and I meant the boot configuration near the very beginning. |
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| 05:53.36 | mwilson | Ah, another one who thinks it's appropriate to invent his own terminology for things. |
| 05:53.45 | greyson | Guerin: That's possible. |
| 05:53.51 | WhiteStone | mwilson: What'd I miss? |
| 05:54.03 | Guerin | greyson: dpkg-reconfigure base-config; should run all that guff again |
| 05:54.17 | Guerin | greyson: but the easier way is just to do what I said. |
| 05:54.23 | greyson | mwilson: It configures... therefore, it is a configurator... |
| 05:54.58 | greyson | Guerin: alright. Will do. Sorry to have been a pain, I'm just very tentative to do this on a system with 242 days of uptime. |
| 05:55.11 | greyson | Cheers all. |
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| 05:55.29 | Guerin | bah, why is uptime important? I leave my boxen up because it's convenient, not because it's 1337 |
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| 05:55.47 | WhiteStone | Guerin: Server maybe? |
| 05:56.04 | Guerin | WhiteStone: i run servers. |
| 05:56.23 | Guerin | it takes about 60 seconds to bring one down and back up again |
| 05:56.31 | WhiteStone | You using ext3 or reiser? |
| 05:56.47 | Guerin | WhiteStone: ext3 ... reiser, eew. |
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| 05:56.55 | WhiteStone | Ext3 pwns |
| 05:57.03 | WhiteStone | I made the mistake of going with JFS |
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| 05:57.14 | Guerin | oh, a mistake? I heard it wasn't bad. |
| 05:57.18 | dabaR | how would I make gdm start at boot up? I can start it once I boot with invoke-rc.d gdm start |
| 05:57.19 | WhiteStone | JFS is not as stable as IBM says it was |
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| 05:57.31 | Guerin | dabaR: dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 05:57.31 | WhiteStone | Guerin: I lost a good amount of data (my home directory) because of a crash' |
| 05:57.36 | WhiteStone | That never happened with Ext3 |
| 05:57.45 | WhiteStone | I lost data to reiser also... Ext3 has never let me down |
| 05:57.54 | Guerin | WhiteStone: hrm, nasty. I've never lost meaningful amounts of data on ext3, either. |
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| 05:58.11 | WhiteStone | I lost my home dir once due to the file system being a mess |
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| 05:59.25 | justin420 | anyone point me in the right direction be it an different irc chat room or someone elses genius as to getting a hp psc 500 to work correctly? |
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| 06:00.11 | Guerin | justin420: so, you reckon the print function and the scan function work ... what else does it do? |
| 06:00.37 | justin420 | Guerin: copies, but i dont need a |
| 06:00.42 | justin420 | puter for that |
| 06:00.50 | Guerin | so what's the problem? |
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| 06:01.13 | justin420 | Guerin: the problem is that either one or the other work, not both at the same time. |
| 06:01.15 | justin420 | go fish. |
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| 06:02.12 | justin420 | Guerin: works with hpoj and xsane, and printing works with hplip, using synaptic it makes me uninstall either one depending which one i have installed. |
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| 06:03.17 | Guerin | justin420: oh ... they conflict? |
| 06:03.27 | justin420 | Guerin: Yes sir. |
| 06:03.34 | Guerin | justin420: tricksy. |
| 06:04.05 | Guerin | justin420: ok, there are ways around this. The one which seems easiest to me would be to build one to live in /usr and one to live in /usr/local |
| 06:04.14 | justin420 | Guerin: tell me about it.... its starting to make me just want to give up on one or the other, but I know linux can do this, its prolly me just being a dumb newbie |
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| 06:04.32 | Guerin | justin420: that way, it'd be possible to have the \m both on the machine, and not conflicting, and still have access tpo both binaries. |
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| 06:05.16 | Guerin | justin420: for one, you'd use the basic debian package - for the other, you'd build the debian source, being careful to make sure it didn't conflict: with the one you're using the debian package for |
| 06:05.22 | Guerin | capiche? |
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| 06:05.45 | justin420 | what?? :) |
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| 06:06.38 | justin420 | Guerin: just download one of them from the synaptic thingie, then just download the other and make make install right? or no. |
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| 06:07.03 | Guerin | justin420: packages usually conflict: because they both contain some of the same files. This means you can't install them both at the same time, because one would overwrite the others' files. |
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| 06:07.26 | Guerin | justin420: if this is the case, you could install them in different locations. |
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| 06:07.44 | myren | what is a unicode/UTF8 capable terminal program? |
| 06:07.51 | myren | besides fscking hideous gnome terminal |
| 06:08.02 | myren | i'd rather kill babies |
| 06:08.07 | Guerin | justin420: you'd use synaptic for one, but for the other, you'd need to get a source package and edit the makefile, among other things, to tell it where to install |
| 06:08.09 | justin420 | Guerin: I figured something along those lines, just dont know exactly to go about it... |
| 06:08.18 | Guerin | myren: rxvt-unicode-ml |
| 06:08.23 | justin420 | Guerin: sounds pretty simple... |
| 06:08.24 | Guerin | myren: or uxterm |
| 06:08.30 | Guerin | justin420: it's not hard. |
| 06:08.41 | myren | thanks much, i was wondering wth was going on here. ;) |
| 06:08.44 | wireddd | can anyone tell me why udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.12 |
| 06:08.55 | Guerin | wireddd: because it does. |
| 06:08.58 | Guerin | !2.6.12 |
| 06:08.58 | dpkg | i guess 2.6.12 is Kernel 2.6.12 has changes which require looking at.udev users need to use 0.58. VMware is known to have patches. Virtual midi alsa is also not included would appear, alsa 1.0.9 modules from alsa-source fixes. the kernel in which the new kernel packaging was introduced. see http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6.html for the list of new binary packages built |
| 06:09.13 | Guerin | bah, that's no use. |
| 06:09.16 | justin420 | Guerin:Thanks for the help, I'll try to get'r'dun. thx |
| 06:09.30 | Guerin | justin420: have fun. |
| 06:09.39 | justin420 | Guerin: yeah no kidding |
| 06:10.06 | wireddd | should I just build a vanilla one? |
| 06:10.19 | Guerin | wireddd: no, install linux-image-2.6.12 |
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| 06:10.24 | Kachingo | howdy |
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| 06:10.46 | Guerin | Kachingo: you're a new zealand gambling game! |
| 06:10.53 | Guerin | wtf |
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| 06:11.17 | Kachingo | haha, yeah. Are you from NZ too? |
| 06:11.28 | Guerin | I am. |
| 06:11.34 | Guerin | !kiwismite Kachingo |
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| 06:12.02 | Kachingo | ?? |
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| 06:13.17 | Kachingo | Guerin: Where in NZ are you? |
| 06:14.14 | Guerin | Kachingo: I'm not, but I was most recently in the beautiful Harbour Capital |
| 06:14.36 | Guerin | bah, another shift in the mines cancelled, this one on account of a fire drill, which everyone already seems to know about |
| 06:14.38 | Kachingo | Ah yip. |
| 06:14.42 | Guerin | except me |
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| 06:16.53 | MrFarts | hi |
| 06:16.55 | MustangMatt | Wow have you guys seen zimbra yet? |
| 06:16.57 | MrFarts | any ldap gurus in here ? |
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| 06:20.44 | deadcat | is Schizophrenia consider insanity or just a disease? |
| 06:20.44 | golly | hey I'm trying to mount a raid array md0 and it keeps telling me that my mount point doesn't exist! |
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| 06:20.44 | golly | deadcat, disease |
| 06:20.44 | deadcat | thanks |
| 06:20.44 | Kachingo | wtf? I can't access my disc drive. Damn Linux's oily hide! |
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| 06:20.45 | Erpo | For the first time I found a linux program mentioned on the internet and it's not in Debian. What do I do? |
| 06:20.45 | deadcat | golly: can you give me an example of an insane person? |
| 06:20.45 | golly | anyone|?? I'm trying to mount a raid array md0 and it keeps telling me that my mount point doesn't exist! |
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| 06:20.47 | Erpo | I mean, I know I can download and compile it myself, but how do I get it into debian? |
| 06:20.57 | golly | insane is someone doingsomething irrational, schizophrenia is dual personalitoies |
| 06:21.06 | golly | or triple |
| 06:21.09 | deadcat | ah |
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| 06:21.56 | maher | deadcat: schiz is a mental illness - not the same as multiple personality disorder - its not usuall called a disease, but it dependson your definition of disease.... |
| 06:21.59 | Kachingo | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, |
| 06:21.59 | Kachingo | missing codepage or other error |
| 06:21.59 | Kachingo | In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try |
| 06:22.01 | Kachingo | dmesg | tail or so |
| 06:22.01 | Kachingo | Please check that the disk is entered correctly. |
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| 06:22.20 | maher | golly: does the mount point exist? |
| 06:22.25 | teapak | lol |
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| 06:22.58 | Azar | be nice to your kids they will choose your nursing home |
| 06:22.58 | maher | Erpo: you could file a rfp but there's probably one already... |
| 06:23.05 | golly | maher, how do I find out? |
| 06:23.18 | maher | golly: what command are you typing? |
| 06:23.23 | deadcat | maher: i am doing a definition of insanity.. the class example is language, in order to be a lang, it has to be: 1 potential to communicate, 2 symbolic, 3 floolows semi-regular rules, 4 reflects cognition intention, 5 ability to express new information.. any idea like this for insanity? |
| 06:23.38 | golly | maher : mount /dev/md0 /mnt/md0 |
| 06:23.54 | Guerin | Kachingo: don't paste |
| 06:24.03 | Kachingo | sorry |
| 06:24.14 | maher | deadcat: i don't think there's any widely accepted definition of insanity - i would define it as behaviour that gets you locked up in an instituion... |
| 06:24.16 | Guerin | Kachingo: you also need to mount a partition, not a volume. /dev/hdc1 is likely. |
| 06:24.18 | Erpo | maher: How do I do that? |
| 06:24.30 | maher | golly: what does ls -ld /mnt/md0 say |
| 06:24.39 | deadcat | maher: (=.. maybe i picked the wrong term to do.. doh. |
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| 06:24.44 | Kachingo | guerin: How the hell do you mount the disc drives? |
| 06:25.01 | golly | maher, no such file or directory |
| 06:25.03 | Guerin | Kachingo: cd drives? the plain device typically works for those. |
| 06:25.05 | Kachingo | guerin: Ooooo, i got ya |
| 06:25.06 | Azar | you find their assigned codenames first |
| 06:25.09 | vhuren | Please enable crypto API. how could i enable that? |
| 06:25.11 | Guerin | maher: but that said, |
| 06:25.13 | Guerin | bah |
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| 06:25.18 | golly | maher... do I mkdir /mnt/md0 ? |
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| 06:25.26 | Guerin | Kachingo: but that said, it has to be a real filesystem |
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| 06:25.31 | Kachingo | guerin: actually, neither of my disc drives or floppy drive work |
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| 06:25.45 | Guerin | eew, floppy drives |
| 06:25.53 | Kachingo | guerin: how do you mean a real file system? |
| 06:26.00 | ilpavox | anyone know of a good site to stay up to date on security issues? |
| 06:26.09 | ostehovel | Wha tis the best to use on a Laptop? (Linux or Windows) |
| 06:26.15 | ostehovel | *what is |
| 06:26.22 | golly | maher... do I mkdir /mnt/md0 ? |
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| 06:26.33 | Kachingo | you're asking in a linux forum whether windows or linux is better? |
| 06:26.33 | vineet | ostehovel: debian |
| 06:26.37 | Azar | ilpavox: apt-get update /upgrade if you have your security source in sources.list |
| 06:26.37 | ilpavox | haha |
| 06:26.39 | maher | Erpo: i dunno offhand - see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ |
| 06:26.47 | ilpavox | azar: i mean a blog or something |
| 06:26.52 | maher | golly: yes |
| 06:27.04 | Guerin | Kachingo: not just random stuff. |
| 06:27.06 | ostehovel | Are Linux best on a Laptop or a Stationary pc? |
| 06:27.10 | Azar | ilpavox oh security rumors: cnet |
| 06:27.16 | Kachingo | guerin: I dont follow |
| 06:27.17 | ostehovel | (linux == Debian) |
| 06:27.22 | Guerin | ostehovel: either. |
| 06:27.36 | Guerin | ostehovel: it depends on the machine in question. |
| 06:27.51 | Guerin | ilpavox: security.debian.org, securityfocus.net |
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| 06:28.06 | ilpavox | guerin: ty.. that is what i was looking for |
| 06:28.10 | Guerin | Kachingo: i can't just mount any random old thing - it has to contain a real filesystem |
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| 06:28.21 | scanwinder | anyone know how i can minimize america's army? |
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| 06:28.27 | Kachingo | guerin: how do I even play a cd from the disc drive? |
| 06:28.30 | aboyousif | hi |
| 06:28.38 | Kachingo | guerin: an audio cd, i mean |
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| 06:28.46 | aboyousif | is last stable debian is 14cd ? |
| 06:28.47 | maher | scanwinder: don't join up? encourage people to desert? |
| 06:28.53 | Guerin | Kachingo: using a player. An audio cd is an example of something without a filesystem |
| 06:28.59 | golly | how do I find out what file system I'm using on a partition? |
| 06:29.00 | Azar | maher :) |
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| 06:29.02 | Guerin | aboyousif: 14 binary, 14 source. |
| 06:29.14 | deadcat | scanwinder: why? are you planning an attack? |
| 06:29.14 | scanwinder | maher, america's army is good |
| 06:29.23 | nkuttler | golly: mount |
| 06:29.28 | Kachingo | guerin: So you can't just click on a discdrive and expect it to play or whatever? its madness I tells ya! |
| 06:29.29 | deadcat | scanwinder: shame on you |
| 06:29.31 | aboyousif | guerin: cann't understand. |
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| 06:29.34 | maher | aboyousif: if you have a fast interent connection you can do a netinstall - read the install guide? |
| 06:29.42 | FaBaUs | ... |
| 06:29.49 | maher | scanwinder: shouldn't you be maximizing it then? |
| 06:29.53 | aboyousif | don't have a faster one. sorry |
| 06:29.54 | deadcat | s/attack/invasion/ |
| 06:29.55 | Guerin | Kachingo: xmms has a cd plugin |
| 06:29.58 | nkuttler | Kachingo: kde/gnome should be able to handle that i expect |
| 06:30.16 | scanwinder | maher: when im dead, i want to be able to do other stuff on my computer |
| 06:30.19 | FaBaUs | algum brasileiro???? |
| 06:30.22 | Guerin | !br |
| 06:30.22 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 06:30.41 | Azar | scanwinder like.. ghosting? |
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| 06:31.01 | scanwinder | Azar: how do u meant ghosting? |
| 06:31.11 | Erpo | scanwinder: If it takes over the entire display, it takes over the entire display. Try reading the documentation. There's usually a command line switch in games that lets you run in windowed mode. |
| 06:31.16 | maher | scanwinder: umm... what are you going to do with your computer when you're dead? |
| 06:31.18 | deadcat | maher: for the language test cases, the instructor gave: sri lankan, sign lang, painful cry, baby talk. what test case can i do with insanity? |
| 06:31.22 | Azar | scanwinder, when you are dead are you planning to do some ghosting with your computer? |
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| 06:31.44 | deadcat | Azar: time to invest in norton (= |
| 06:31.45 | scanwinder | Azare: what is ghosting? |
| 06:31.53 | Guerin | deadcat: cthulhian gibbering and meeping at the mooon |
| 06:31.58 | Guerin | !:E |
| 06:31.59 | dpkg | Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! |
| 06:32.03 | maher | deadcat: does your behaviour cause the men in white coats to lock you up? :) do you have a definition? |
| 06:32.10 | Azar | scanwinder, coming in irc and kicking other nicks out with stolen passwords |
| 06:32.35 | scanwinder | Azar: no, i dont plan on doing that |
| 06:33.00 | deadcat | maher: i currently have 1 unfit for legal obligation, 2 permanent disorder to the mind, 3 physical disturbance, 4, irregular behaviors (from you an golly) |
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| 06:33.08 | scanwinder | Azar, whats the got to do with america's army anyway? |
| 06:33.21 | peterS | deadcat: in that case, my good sir, you are insane |
| 06:33.21 | jmg | hey guys |
| 06:33.24 | Azar | scanwinder, whats to do america's army with Debian? |
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| 06:33.32 | Kachingo | how in god's name do you turn up the volume? |
| 06:33.45 | peterS | Kachingo: run a mixer application such as 'alsamixer' or 'aumix' |
| 06:33.51 | Guerin | Kachingo: alsamixer-* |
| 06:33.51 | jm_ | find the largest knob on your amplifier |
| 06:33.52 | scanwinder | Azar: good point |
| 06:33.54 | Guerin | in alsa-utils |
| 06:34.04 | deadcat | peterS: i dont want to use me as a test case (=. currently i have 1 bum, criminals who plea insanity.. need 2 more i guess |
| 06:34.15 | maher | deadcat: i think irregular behaviour is the best defn - it makes it clear that insane behaviour depends on your social setting |
| 06:34.22 | Azar | and to complete jm_ ... use earphones while you turning up the volume at max |
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| 06:34.47 | vineet | I don't think it's out of line to ask about how best to run a popular app on his debian system, even if that app didn't come from debian |
| 06:35.05 | maher | deadcat: for example hearing strange voices in the past meant that the gods were talking to you - nnow it sometime means you are insane |
| 06:35.25 | Kachingo | arghj, cd is playing but no sound |
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| 06:35.44 | Azar | maher , now I start wondering who is acually dead and typing messages on irc.. |
| 06:35.52 | deadcat | maher: ya. i have that under "permanent disorder to the mind", is that correct? |
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| 06:36.01 | Kachingo | who isn't dead? |
| 06:36.06 | Kachingo | this is the ghost channel |
| 06:36.07 | maher | Azar: on the internet no one knows you are dead |
| 06:36.12 | Azar | Kachingo, you have a point there |
| 06:36.37 | Kachingo | indeed I do, but more importantly, why can't I hear my cd! |
| 06:36.50 | deadcat | Kachingo: bad cd |
| 06:37.03 | ke6isf | Kachingo: Is it plugged in? Turned on? |
| 06:37.04 | maher | deadcat: hearing voices is a permanent disorder? what about the internal conversations with themselves/others many people have continually/intermittently |
| 06:37.05 | peterS | Kachingo: for a CD player to work that way, you have to have a cable running from the drive to your sound card. not all computers have this. you also need to turn up the CD input volume as explained earlier (alsamixer or aumix) |
| 06:37.12 | Azar | Kachingo there are many issues you will be finding like for example your xmms might run on oss instead of alsa? |
| 06:37.28 | Erpo | There are RFPs older than three years. Is there a faster way of getting vncrec into debian? |
| 06:37.30 | deadcat | maher: i am not sure. let me change it then. |
| 06:37.57 | Guerin | Erpo: build it yourself and get a sponsor to upload it for you. #debian-mentors |
| 06:38.18 | jm_ | vncrec? sounds like something that captures the screen - there's xvidcap/gvidcap in Marillat's repository, hopefully it works better for you than it does for me |
| 06:38.18 | Guerin | Erpo: short answer: insufficient demand. |
| 06:38.29 | Azar | Kachingo one time after a whole night of tormenting with alsa and xmms settings I just found the speakers cable was not connected properly... |
| 06:38.49 | Kachingo | peterS: ARghj, i think that cable is pulled out, coz in windows it never needed it. How does that work if you have 2 disc drives? |
| 06:38.50 | maher | deadcat: if you call yourself a performance artist you can get away with all sorts of behaviour that would otherwise get you committed |
| 06:38.53 | ke6isf | Erpo: Package it and set up a separate archive like was done for Pine? |
| 06:39.08 | deadcat | maher: (=.. |
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| 06:39.25 | peterS | Kachingo: CD playing is done in 2 different ways. the simple way is just to send a command to the drive "play this track etc." and it sends the audio straight to the sound card using the cable |
| 06:39.49 | Erpo | ke6isf: That sounds like a lot of work. Are you a ham, btw? |
| 06:39.52 | Guerin | oh, seems the fire alarm really is taking place |
| 06:39.57 | peterS | Kachingo: the other way is to extract the CD audio from the disc and play it as, basically, a wav file. this is more CPU-intensive and sometimes slower, but it works even if you don't have a cable attached in there |
| 06:40.02 | Guerin | should I wait until someone comes to fetch me? |
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| 06:40.18 | peterS | Kachingo: perhaps your Windows app does the second one. Linux can too, with some apps, such as the xmms-cdread plugin |
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| 06:40.30 | maher | deadcat: sitting in a room writing all day for years and producing a novel is considered not insane, but typing the same phrase over and over would be - what about writing finegans wake? |
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| 06:40.39 | Kachingo | I'm too lazy to take the side of my computer off and plug it back in. Is there a program that plays music off the disc, but not straight from it? Like Windows media player, only linuxier! |
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| 06:40.57 | peterS | Kachingo: see above, the 'xmms-cdread' plugin is intended to do exactly that |
| 06:41.10 | peterS | Kachingo: for other media player apps, I don't know the answer |
| 06:41.12 | Guerin | sorry, no, there's nothing like windows media player in debian |
| 06:41.12 | maher | Kachingo: xmcd, or use abcde to convert it into oggs |
| 06:41.15 | Guerin | thank goodness. |
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| 06:41.23 | deadcat | maher: haha. thats a good example. |
| 06:41.23 | Kachingo | will apt-get install xmms-cdread magically find it? |
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| 06:41.33 | peterS | Kachingo: yes |
| 06:41.45 | peterS | Kachingo: as for configuring xmms to *use* this plugin, I don't remember if you have to do anything special inside xmms, or not |
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| 06:42.23 | vineet | peterS, Kachingo: I think you just point xmms at a directory that has an entry in fstab for the cdrom drive |
| 06:42.28 | chant | Hey, I think there's a big problem in the ssh package, at least on amd-64 |
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| 06:42.30 | vineet | e.g. /media/cdrom |
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| 06:42.48 | chant | even when you have PasswordAuthentication no, it allows password authentication |
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| 06:42.55 | peterS | vineet: you're saying the xmms-cdread plugin overrides the xmms default cd player plugin automatically? |
| 06:42.57 | vineet | chant: check UsePAM? |
| 06:42.57 | Kachingo | hmmm, can you not apt-get 2 things at the same time? |
| 06:43.03 | peterS | Kachingo: sure |
| 06:43.04 | chant | UsePAM = yes. |
| 06:43.08 | maher | deadcat: in fact now i think about it the wake is a good example, if joyce had only written that and not ulysses etc. before it mayeb people would have thought him mad |
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| 06:43.10 | chant | is that the bad part? |
| 06:43.21 | peterS | chant: UsePAM will enable PAM's own password authentication, which isn't the same as ssh's password authentication |
| 06:43.25 | chant | if that is the case, the config file is very misleading. |
| 06:43.26 | vineet | chant: it's using PAM's keyboard-interactive auth |
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| 06:43.38 | peterS | chant: you can probably get around this by editing /etc/pam.d/ssh |
| 06:43.44 | vineet | peterS: no, maybe I'm just confusing the 2 |
| 06:43.49 | chant | I'll just kill usePAM. |
| 06:44.04 | jmg | arrhg |
| 06:44.05 | peterS | chant: ssh does not know what pam will be doing, whether it uses interactive authentication or other stuff. pam can do a wide variety of things. |
| 06:44.25 | chant | peterS : a warning in the config file would probably be handy. |
| 06:44.37 | chant | UsePAM seems pretty harmless. |
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| 06:44.54 | Kachingo | watch me electrocute myself while trying to plug that cable in... |
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| 06:45.00 | jm_ | why? it's supposed to be used by people who know what they're doing - average joe has no place running ssh server |
| 06:45.07 | vineet | Kachingo: don't do it hot! |
| 06:45.13 | chant | jm_ that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. |
| 06:45.23 | kenboo | chant, the annoying thing is that ssh package put the UsePam = YES back silently when you update it |
| 06:45.25 | vineet | Kachingo: you should power down before you go plugging in cables |
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| 06:45.29 | jm_ | chant: keep thinking that |
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| 06:45.48 | kenboo | i thought the bug was fixed but it's there when i checked last |
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| 06:45.59 | yahalom | anyone find mozilla working better than firefox? |
| 06:46.02 | chant | The system is non-obvious: solution: only experts should use it? uh...no. |
| 06:46.10 | chant | especially when it comes to security. |
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| 06:46.16 | chant | security features should be *easy* to use. |
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| 06:46.22 | chant | hence secure-by-default? |
| 06:46.23 | Kachingo | vineet: powering down & using antistatic straps while working on sensative equipment is for pussies. |
| 06:46.24 | jm_ | bwahaha |
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| 06:46.53 | vineet | chant: I agree -- a warning wouldn't hurt; something in the spirit of: "debian's default PAM config enables passwords, so if you want to disable passwords, you'll have to disable or reconfigure PAM support" |
| 06:46.58 | Azar | :) why suddenly smelled like burned hair? |
| 06:47.13 | chant | I agree with you |
| 06:47.17 | softrat | Why does gnome take five minutes to start up under the 'testing' thingydooger? |
| 06:47.24 | chant | or "warning: could allow password authentication depending on PAM settings? |
| 06:47.56 | Azar | yahalom, links for me looks more secure than any of them |
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| 06:48.18 | peterS | chant: as it happens, the original openssl doesn't support pam at all. that's an add-on for "portable openssh", the kind that runs on non-openbsd platforms |
| 06:48.45 | chant | :-/ |
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| 06:48.54 | chant | well, thanks for the pointers. |
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| 06:49.09 | chant | I bet there are a bunch of admins out there thinking they've got only public key auth on though. |
| 06:49.17 | madradrone | anyone notice anything weird with the internet? |
| 06:49.27 | chant | heh. understatement of the year. |
| 06:49.28 | softrat | Just the people on it! |
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| 06:49.45 | madradrone | i cannot resolve www.debian.org although other sites resolve fine |
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| 06:49.58 | madradrone | also guardian.co.uk won't resolve |
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| 06:50.13 | kenboo | 192.25.206.10 |
| 06:50.14 | Kachingo | hm, they've got the internet on computers now! |
| 06:50.19 | MrFarts | madradrone, your computer is infested with ghosts |
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| 06:50.52 | madradrone | odd |
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| 06:51.17 | vineet | madradrone: try dig against other name servers, and other queries on that name server |
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| 06:52.22 | softrat | AGAIN: Why does gnome take five minutes to start up under the 'testing' thingydooger? |
| 06:53.03 | Azar | softrat, because is a bloated app? try openbox |
| 06:53.06 | Aim_Here | softrat, because it's bloated and evil? |
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| 06:53.12 | Azar | :) |
| 06:53.21 | softrat | What is 'openbox'? |
| 06:53.21 | Aim_Here | heh |
| 06:53.31 | Aim_Here | openbox is a window manager for X |
| 06:53.31 | softrat | Does it have an IRC app? |
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| 06:53.35 | Azar | openbox is a light and elegant desktop manager |
| 06:53.43 | madradrone | vineet: dig @65.106.1.196 www.debian.org connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 06:53.45 | vineet | softrat: check your ~/.xsession-errors file for any warnings/errors |
| 06:53.53 | softrat | hahahahaha! |
| 06:53.59 | softrat | i GOTS LOTS! |
| 06:54.27 | softrat | How do I setup to use openbox instead of gnome? |
| 06:54.28 | madradrone | vineet: but dig @12.127.17.71 www.debian.org works fine |
| 06:54.28 | Azar | madradone it could be your connection internet is just ok |
| 06:54.35 | madradrone | Azar: its perfect |
| 06:54.43 | Azar | softrat, remove gnome then install openbox |
| 06:54.47 | madradrone | looks like the NS is weird |
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| 06:55.08 | softrat | As in 'Aptitude remove gnome' ???? |
| 06:55.12 | softrat | Ooops |
| 06:55.17 | softrat | As in 'aptitude remove gnome' ???? |
| 06:55.24 | madradrone | yeah, it definitely was. i switched it and all is ok |
| 06:55.31 | dondelelcaro | softrat: please don't use excess punctuation here. |
| 06:55.40 | softrat | OK |
| 06:55.46 | softrat | As in 'aptitude remove gnome' |
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| 06:56.00 | questi | hi.. |
| 06:56.11 | yahalom | is there a pdf viewer for console, or does that need x? |
| 06:56.16 | vhuren | Makefile.inc:94: *** KERNELPATH must be defined. Stop. |
| 06:56.20 | questi | i installed all nvidia things and fixed .. but i can't use nvidia driver |
| 06:56.23 | vhuren | could someone tell me how I can fix this? |
| 06:56.44 | questi | i use "nv" driver now and there isn't any problem.. but when i use "nvidia" driver i'm geting only black screen |
| 06:56.51 | questi | what should i do :( |
| 06:56.54 | mackbeer | with security.debian.org being unavailable for the moment, are there other sites or mirrors i can use? |
| 06:57.06 | Aim_Here | questi, use the nv driver? :) |
| 06:57.06 | softrat | OK: How do I remove 'gnome'? |
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| 06:57.35 | vineet | yahalom: pstotext might do it |
| 06:57.51 | questi | Aim_Here: nv driver doesn't have 3d support.. so i can't play nexuiz with nv driver |
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| 06:58.16 | Aim_Here | questi, ah |
| 06:58.31 | maher | mackbeer: works for me |
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| 06:58.59 | questi | anyone help me please :(? |
| 06:59.18 | softrat | quesit: Forgeddahbowdit! |
| 06:59.34 | softrat | questi: Wait your turn on line. |
| 06:59.37 | mackbeer | maher, hangs on 46% for me then tries to reconnect until it gives up |
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| 07:00.03 | vineet | !anyone |
| 07:00.03 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 07:00.04 | questi | softrat: what ? |
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| 07:00.09 | questi | i didn't understand |
| 07:00.29 | softrat | Forget About It! Wait your turn in line. |
| 07:00.51 | softrat | The line is moving very slowly tonight. |
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| 07:01.37 | questi | :s |
| 07:01.46 | softrat | Somebody told me to remove gnome and now they won't tell me how to remove gnome. |
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| 07:01.57 | Azar | softrat, yes you remove packages with aptitude remove <packagename> |
| 07:02.14 | softrat | Thank you Azar. NEXT!! |
| 07:02.21 | vhuren | Makefile.inc:94: *** KERNELPATH must be defined. Stop. I currently get this error could someone tell me how I can fix? |
| 07:02.35 | questi | there was a command to kernel configuration for debian.. what was it ? |
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| 07:02.51 | Azar | questi: modconf |
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| 07:03.11 | gromgull | hey, i did a apt-get upgrade last night, and it upgraded lots of x and init-scripts and udev... now upon booting the keyboard doesnt work! |
| 07:03.14 | gromgull | any ideas? |
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| 07:03.32 | kenboo | gromgull, testing? |
| 07:03.43 | gromgull | nope... stable |
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| 07:03.48 | gromgull | but with my own kernel |
| 07:03.51 | gromgull | 2.6.13... |
| 07:03.54 | kenboo | uh |
| 07:04.02 | Azar | groovy |
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| 07:04.37 | shingouz_ | gromgull: you did not happen to upgrade the kernel at the same time? |
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| 07:04.52 | Kachingo | How does KsCD work when you have 2 disc drives? |
| 07:05.03 | peterS | Kachingo: I do believe I explained that already |
| 07:05.06 | peterS | Kachingo: *plonk* |
| 07:05.41 | Kachingo | peterS: Really? Hmm... i shouldn't have left the computer to have dinner |
| 07:05.42 | gromgull | shingouz_: no... it's been running for ages |
| 07:05.45 | gromgull | well, wekks |
| 07:05.46 | gromgull | weeks |
| 07:05.48 | ghatak | hi, i am looking for some sort of tool which can keep record of total data downloaded from my cable interface based on daily, weekly, monthly etc. any help on that ? |
| 07:06.04 | gromgull | I just tried booting again, and the keyboard works up until i start X, maybe it's just a config problem... |
| 07:06.07 | gromgull | X fonfig |
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| 07:06.15 | kenboo | ghatak, mrtg |
| 07:06.16 | peterS | Kachingo: if your IRC client supports highlighting replies, scroll up and you'll see where I typed a nice long explanation about the two ways of playing audio CDs |
| 07:06.27 | wireddd | gromgull, thats what it sounds like |
| 07:06.27 | shingouz_ | gromgull: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 07:06.28 | peterS | Kachingo: I'm not going to retype it though |
| 07:07.00 | ghatak | kenboo: ok thanks |
| 07:07.15 | deeLer | day 3 of the Dell-misery, finally got Debian installed , but on boot nothing more theb : GRUB Loading stage1.5Read Error. Can someone give me some clues how to handle this problem |
| 07:07.22 | deeLer | i'm running a scsi controller |
| 07:07.26 | harves | is it possible to get copies of debian packages listed on http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html ? |
| 07:07.34 | Kachingo | peterS: I can't scroll up that far :( |
| 07:07.39 | deeLer | btw: goodmorning debianppl |
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| 07:08.11 | mwilson | Sure. Don't bother with grub. |
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| 07:08.23 | Kachingo | peterS: Can you just give me the gist of it? |
| 07:08.25 | deeLer | mwilson, lilo ? |
| 07:08.37 | madradrone | man the debian postix package seems strange |
| 07:08.49 | mwilson | It's usually far more trougble than it's worth. |
| 07:08.50 | peterS | Kachingo: I don't think this was while you were away. it was while I explained what xmms-cdread does, and I know you saw that |
| 07:09.01 | madradrone | what is this postfix-files crap in /etc/postfix? |
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| 07:09.25 | mwilson | madradrone: "crap"? You have somewhere better for postfix to keep its configuration? |
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| 07:09.46 | madradrone | mwilson: that file relates to the installer, not to postix configuration |
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| 07:09.59 | mwilson | madradrone: If you say so. |
| 07:09.59 | kenboo | my postfix works fine |
| 07:10.03 | madradrone | mwilson: it is basically a manifest of installed files that the packager uses |
| 07:10.07 | Kachingo | peterS: Oh, are you sure the 2-disc-drive-ness was covered? |
| 07:10.25 | peterS | Kachingo: I didn't mention two CD drives specifically but it's obvious enough from what I did say |
| 07:10.41 | madradrone | mwilson: ah, maybe i misinterpreted the meaning of "postfix-install script" |
| 07:11.04 | madradrone | maybe its part of the upstream |
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| 07:11.16 | mwilson | Would it matter if it were? |
| 07:11.35 | madradrone | to me it would |
| 07:12.03 | madradrone | it means that its hacked somehow and if i try to alter the config i have to decipher what the maintainer did |
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| 07:12.31 | takahiro | hi |
| 07:12.32 | madradrone | mwilson: also, it would mean that using the upstream documentation might be irrelevant or even cause breakage |
| 07:12.34 | mwilson | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:12.51 | deeLer | GRUB Loading stage1.5Read Error. Can someone give me some clues how to handle this problem ?????? |
| 07:13.07 | takahiro | my debian pc's hdd is failing... how do I backup everything and restore it onto a new hdd with minimal effort? should i just use Norton Ghost? |
| 07:13.08 | mwilson | deeLer: I did. |
| 07:13.16 | Kachingo | vineet: Thanks :) |
| 07:13.19 | jm_ | install GRUB using install command without stage1.5 |
| 07:13.19 | mwilson | takahiro: If you like. |
| 07:13.25 | gromgull | shingouz_: the keyboard section in my current xorg.conf and the generated one are identical... |
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| 07:13.39 | deeLer | mwilson, sorry, can u repeat that |
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| 07:13.51 | mwilson | !u |
| 07:13.51 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 07:17.18 | jim | !m |
| 07:17.18 | dpkg | i heard m is (lower case) a metric thousandth or (upper case) a metric million or (greek) a metric millionth, or compile as a module in a kernel configuration. And also James Bond's boss. MUMPS, A programming language with extensive tools for the support of database management systems. |
| 07:17.27 | maher | takahiro: obtain new hard disc - plug it in - partition and make filesystems - rsync across - boot to boot disk to fix bootloader |
| 07:17.32 | gromgull | should i have a keyboard device in /dev somewhere? like /dev/input? |
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| 07:18.14 | kenboo | gromgull, USB keyboard? |
| 07:18.21 | gromgull | nope |
| 07:18.27 | takahiro | maher: ok |
| 07:18.32 | gromgull | built in laptop or external ps2, both no love... |
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| 07:19.56 | jim | deeLer: you must grok the wisdom and the metaphysical nature of your irc client's scrollback key... then, if there is made the sound of a master explaining to no one (also one hand clapping), there will not need to be a heard sound because it will come to pass that you have grokked |
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| 07:21.07 | omega4728 | hey, simple question: how do i restart proftpd without rebooting the whole machine? |
| 07:21.12 | deeLer | jim: wth are u talking about |
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| 07:21.17 | dondelelcaro | omega4728: /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 07:21.20 | vineet | omega4728: /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
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| 07:21.28 | omega4728 | thx alot :-) |
| 07:21.38 | questi | how can i list all installed pkgs with dpkg ? |
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| 07:21.42 | jim | or in earthling terms, use the key assigned to the scrollback function in order to "hear" things that have went down :) |
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| 07:21.50 | sim_ | hi |
| 07:21.51 | kenboo | dpkg -l |
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| 07:22.10 | deeLer | :-p |
| 07:22.14 | questi | hm |
| 07:22.16 | sim_ | i'm looking for some nfs related help. i couldn't find any specialized channel ? |
| 07:22.32 | kenboo | sim_, what's the question? |
| 07:22.33 | mwilson | sim_: Do you actually have a question? |
| 07:22.42 | marculix | questi: all INSTALLED packages: dpkg -l | egrep ^ii | more |
| 07:22.45 | questi | kenboo: thanks but i want to remove sendmail* pkgs.. how can i |
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| 07:23.29 | kenboo | dpk --purge ? |
| 07:23.29 | sim_ | yes, i'm having trouble with the lock thing i think. it's sound like that : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102402 |
| 07:23.33 | kenboo | dpkg |
| 07:23.45 | sim_ | the 19 and 20 comments |
| 07:24.06 | ice_1963 | dpkg -purge |
| 07:24.10 | sim_ | mounting nfs is fine, but graphical login hangs up. |
| 07:24.38 | omega4728 | me again - tried it but i get fatal socket operation. checked the conf and servertype is inetd instead of the suggested standalone. should i change it? |
| 07:25.09 | vineet | Is the server a debian system? what kernel version? |
| 07:25.15 | questi | thanks thanks :) i was trying with nonsuper user :) |
| 07:25.19 | myren | how do i get unicode in xterm? |
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| 07:25.31 | vineet | myren: try rxvt-unicode |
| 07:25.39 | myren | i rather like xterm. :/ |
| 07:25.40 | vineet | myren: or uxterm |
| 07:25.47 | myren | well,aterm |
| 07:25.58 | myren | xterm is a hideous beast, aterm is light and good |
| 07:26.14 | vineet | urxvt is good too |
| 07:26.34 | kenboo | sim_, you have installed nfs-common package , right? |
| 07:26.39 | mwilson | How is xterm a hideous beast? |
| 07:26.58 | vineet | myren: so which are you asking about? aterm? |
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| 07:27.01 | myren | rediculous mem footprint |
| 07:27.18 | mwilson | myren: Which you've never measured, so you wouldn't actually know, would you? |
| 07:27.18 | myren | aterm, but aterm was meant to behave as close to xterm as humanely possible minus the memory usage nastiness |
| 07:27.29 | questi | :s |
| 07:27.29 | questi | rc rmail 8.13.5-1 MTA->UUCP remote mail handler |
| 07:27.35 | questi | how will i uninstall this.. |
| 07:27.46 | questi | this is "sendmail" but i can't remove it |
| 07:27.54 | mwilson | myren: If that's what aterm was meant to do, you'd better tell the afterstep people, as they seem to have a different idea. |
| 07:27.59 | kenboo | questi, --purge should remove config files as well |
| 07:28.06 | questi | i try but it dont |
| 07:28.11 | kenboo | hmm weird |
| 07:28.16 | questi | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove --purge which isn't installed. |
| 07:28.22 | kenboo | uh |
| 07:28.26 | kenboo | dpkg --purge rmail |
| 07:28.32 | vineet | questi: it has to come before the package name |
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| 07:29.45 | sim_ | kenboo: yes, plus nfs-->kernel. i might try the nfs user... |
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| 07:29.53 | christianp | hi all |
| 07:29.58 | myren | Ohh, no linear B fonts on this system. :/ |
| 07:29.58 | sim_ | rcpinfo sounds fine on both computers. |
| 07:30.16 | vineet | myren: actually aterm is based on rxvt (which was actually trying to be smaller than xterm) but aterm got some stuff thrown in |
| 07:30.19 | kenboo | sim_, how about rpcinfo -p hostname |
| 07:30.22 | sim_ | i also tried with the nolock option, but doesn't help |
| 07:30.28 | kenboo | hmm |
| 07:30.38 | b33r | when im booting (grub- raid0) my raid controller is found, then I get :VFS cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block(8,3) |
| 07:30.39 | questi | http://pastebin.com/376568 |
| 07:30.42 | sim_ | kenboo: yes, it sounds ok. wanna a paste ? |
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| 07:30.44 | questi | can you check this url please.. |
| 07:31.08 | kenboo | sim_, er not necessary if lock manager is running |
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| 07:31.09 | b33r | how can i force it too look at block (0,3) |
| 07:31.13 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:31.40 | jm_ | b33r: you have no idea what that means, right? |
| 07:31.42 | sim_ | kenboo: it defenitvly is. |
| 07:31.49 | b33r | jm_ nope |
| 07:31.52 | kenboo | sim_, pls check both direction. from server to client, client to server |
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| 07:32.03 | b33r | all i know is last night it was (0,0) so now atleast it can see my array |
| 07:32.04 | vineet | questi: you can't just remove sendmail, since other packages depend on there being an MTA on the system |
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| 07:32.31 | jm_ | b33r: you're probably confusing (0,0) in GRUB against rootfs for kernel |
| 07:32.38 | vineet | questi: you have to install another MTA in its place, or remove all packages which depend on mail-transport-agent as well (which is probably not practical) |
| 07:32.41 | questi | vineet: i want to remove all mta pkgs.. |
| 07:32.47 | b33r | i think my grub is setup right |
| 07:32.53 | b33r | root(0,0) |
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| 07:32.59 | b33r | boot = /dev/sda3 |
| 07:33.01 | christianp | strange thing: i installed my new gnome 2.10, install foomatic-db from unstable and adding my printer, i found no driver for epson Aculaser C2000 between gutenprint. I now can't display gimpprint (in my laptop it contains right driver). If i try uninstalling gutenprint (i want gimpprint) it uninstall gimpprint either. What's the matter? |
| 07:33.14 | sep | questi, you mean you want to install an mta from source ? |
| 07:33.14 | mwilson | questi: No, you do not. |
| 07:33.21 | sim_ | kenboo: the ports are pretty differents, but all services are running |
| 07:33.31 | jm_ | boot=/dev/sda3 in GRUB? no it's definitely not configured correctly |
| 07:33.36 | questi | no i don't want a mta :( |
| 07:33.37 | sim_ | (32768 vs 100x) |
| 07:33.39 | questi | must i have ? |
| 07:33.44 | mwilson | christianp: gutenprint *is* gimpprint. |
| 07:33.51 | dondelelcaro | questi: yes, you must have an mta if you have anything that requires one installed. |
| 07:34.00 | questi | hm |
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| 07:34.09 | questi | sendmail has many problem when starting system |
| 07:34.26 | dondelelcaro | questi: there's pretty much no reason not to have one either; install nullmailer, ssmtp, or similar if you don't actually plan on receiving mail there. |
| 07:34.26 | sep | questi, use the debian default mta it's there for a reason |
| 07:34.28 | tarzeau | say i do this and get that error, isn't that a bug of something? http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/bug-ckermit.txt |
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| 07:34.30 | mwilson | questi: sendmail is only there because you installed it. |
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| 07:34.47 | sim_ | what about the lockd.udpport=# and lockd.nlm_tcpport=# ? i dunno where this belongs |
| 07:34.59 | mwilson | tarzeau: How is that a bug? |
| 07:35.05 | christianp | mwilson, but gimpprint has ALC2000 driver, while gutenprint hasn't |
| 07:35.19 | vhuren | how could I display what the value of certain variables are. eg kernelpath, what they point to? |
| 07:35.34 | dondelelcaro | echo $kernelpath; FE |
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| 07:35.57 | christianp | mwilson, where does driver .ppd are stored (i copy and paste it from laptop)? |
| 07:35.58 | questi | how can i see errors when startup messages ? |
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| 07:36.10 | dondelelcaro | questi: they're usually logged. |
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| 07:36.13 | vhuren | dondelelcaro: how do I set that variable? |
| 07:36.13 | litage | what might cause dnscache and tinydns to act slowly when resolving names? |
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| 07:36.23 | sim_ | brb |
| 07:36.24 | mwilson | litage: They're crap? |
| 07:36.33 | tarzeau | mwilson: you mean if i feed the debconf-set-selections for it, it won't happen anymore? |
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| 07:36.47 | questi | dondelelcaro: where ? |
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| 07:37.04 | dondelelcaro | vhuren: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 07:37.06 | litage | mwilson: why are they crap? |
| 07:37.08 | dondelelcaro | !real question |
| 07:37.08 | dpkg | Please tell us what the real problem is instead of wasting our time asking questions about things that you think are related to the problem. If you don't, you're just wasting your time and ours. [Far to often what you think is related to the problem actually isn't or won't help you solve your problem at all.] |
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| 07:37.28 | peterS | !real question =~ s/to often/too often/ |
| 07:37.28 | dpkg | peterS: that doesn't contain 'to often' |
| 07:37.29 | mwilson | tarzeau: I have no idea. But the behavior you pasted is certainly no bug. |
| 07:37.33 | sim_ | ok so no idea about that nfs stuff ? no nfs channel to suggest ? |
| 07:37.34 | vhuren | dondelelcaro: make kernelpath point to a specific location |
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| 07:37.53 | dondelelcaro | vhuren: I ask again, what are you actually trying to do? |
| 07:37.54 | tarzeau | mwilson: ok thanks |
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| 07:38.08 | peterS | !real problem =~ s/to often/too often/ |
| 07:38.08 | dpkg | peterS: OK |
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| 07:39.16 | questi | how can i remove sendmail from startup ? |
| 07:39.33 | dondelelcaro | questi: install a different MTA and sendmail will be removed. |
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| 07:39.52 | questi | i only want to remove from startup :( |
| 07:40.00 | vhuren | dontelelcaro: well when I try to install something it says kernelpath not defined so I can trying to define it? |
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| 07:40.08 | dondelelcaro | vhuren: what are you trying to install? |
| 07:40.38 | b33r | kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 root=/dev/sda3 |
| 07:40.42 | dondelelcaro | questi: no, you don't. You want to install a different MTA or fix your sendmail configuration... |
| 07:40.46 | b33r | ^^ grub.cof line |
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| 07:40.51 | shingouz_ | questi: you will get constant errors or the system will just stop |
| 07:41.00 | b33r | oops didnt coppy that right |
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| 07:41.01 | b33r | wrong config |
| 07:41.04 | Kachingo | peterS: I still don't follow why its only reading cd's from one disc drive |
| 07:41.11 | jm_ | gentoo? you're asking in wrong channel |
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| 07:41.55 | vhuren | dondelelcaro: madwifi its for my aethros card |
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| 07:42.21 | peterS | Kachingo: xmms-cdread selects the drive in the particularly non-obvious way of correlating the path you type with a mount point present in /etc/fstab, and using the corresponding device name |
| 07:42.30 | peterS | Kachingo: create two such mount points for your two drives and you can use either |
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| 07:42.43 | dondelelcaro | !tell vhuren -about madwifi-install |
| 07:42.47 | dondelelcaro | vhuren: follow those instructions |
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| 07:43.03 | vhuren | ok thanx |
| 07:43.26 | b33r | i needed the expertise of a debian user |
| 07:43.28 | b33r | :P |
| 07:43.30 | Kachingo | peterS: Aha, I got ya. So, how do you create a mount point? :P |
| 07:43.40 | dondelelcaro | Kachingo: with mkdir... |
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| 07:43.51 | peterS | Kachingo: create an entry in /etc/fstab and make sure the mount point exists as an empty directory |
| 07:43.55 | shingouz_ | !tell b33r about d-i |
| 07:43.58 | shingouz_ | b33r: ;) |
| 07:44.57 | Kachingo | to the googlemobile!!! |
| 07:45.02 | EdLin | b33r: if you want distro-agnostic advice, go to ##linux or something. #debian is too croweded to do anything more than Debain support. |
| 07:45.03 | peterS | Kachingo: this is all explained, at least to some degree, in 'man 5 fstab' |
| 07:45.09 | EdLin | s/Debain/Debian/ |
| 07:45.13 | vhuren | i love you dondelelcaro |
| 07:45.31 | EdLin | s/croweded/crowded/ |
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| 07:45.47 | Chrysali_ | morning fellas |
| 07:45.49 | b33r | EdLin: its more a scsi issue than anything |
| 07:45.58 | b33r | i dont know how to force it to use a lun |
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| 07:46.15 | b33r | and i DO have a debian box runmning right next to me :) |
| 07:46.35 | Kachingo | more of a overview of the file... |
| 07:47.09 | EdLin | b33r: what makes you think we're required to ask your non-debian questions here? |
| 07:47.14 | EdLin | s/ask/answer |
| 07:47.15 | EdLin | ugh |
| 07:47.19 | dondelelcaro | vhuren: see how much easier it is when you ask your real question? ;-) |
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| 07:47.42 | b33r | i dont |
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| 07:48.59 | EdLin | b33r: /join #gentoo or ##linux. If they can't answer your question use google. If none of those work reconsider the usage of a distribution without good support. |
| 07:49.04 | Kachingo | peterS: Both the disc drives already have a thingy in fstab |
| 07:49.12 | toonX | how can i change my locale, i want to set it to en_US |
| 07:49.22 | questi | where startup messages logged ? |
| 07:49.42 | peterS | Kachingo: so you should be able to play then using xmms-cdread by just trying to play the respective mount point directories |
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| 07:50.23 | EdLin | toonX: dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 07:50.29 | fireba11 | !tell toonX about locale |
| 07:50.29 | emin | hi, I try to boot from network (by bootp), has anyone experience about it? |
| 07:50.49 | fireba11 | ah, crap .. wrong one |
| 07:51.01 | toonX | yeah |
| 07:51.17 | cafuego_ | emin: The documentation that comes with 'diskless' should get you started. Probably need pxeboot etc. |
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| 07:51.26 | toonX | fireba11 it was something dpkg-reconfigure locales , but it doesn't work on this debian |
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| 07:52.00 | fireba11 | toonX EdLin said it alread ... and its locale not locales |
| 07:52.06 | toonX | fireba11 btw, do i need to install en_US before i can user it ? locale -a doesn't show en_US |
| 07:52.17 | litage | the real question is: "when i run `wget http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/d/dvdrtools/dvdrtools_0.1.5-4_i386.deb`, wget waits for 5+ seconds while my dnscache server plays fetch. if i re-download the file, dnscache performs the whole lookup all over again |
| 07:52.17 | toonX | fireba11 oh sorry |
| 07:52.19 | litage | http://rafb.net/paste/results/hOty5224.html |
| 07:52.29 | toonX | EdLin thanks |
| 07:52.36 | EdLin | toonX: np |
| 07:52.54 | prjktdtnt | sighs ftpd bites me again. I was told by my sources that i should try switching to the vsftpd server for security issues so I did but i cannot for the death of me figure out how to enable ssl (do i need to to have full secure ftp connections enabled on my server?) |
| 07:53.06 | emin | cafuego, my server gets message from clients, but after a while, client start to boot from hd |
| 07:53.13 | toonX | EdLin dpkg-reconfigure locale , says locale no such package installed |
| 07:53.31 | questi | apt-get install locale |
| 07:53.50 | toonX | questi package not found .. |
| 07:54.00 | questi | apt-get update |
| 07:54.13 | EdLin | toonX: should be locales, sorry. |
| 07:54.38 | fireba11 | ups |
| 07:54.39 | toonX | EdLin oh .. |
| 07:54.42 | questi | (: |
| 07:54.58 | fireba11 | litage: 5 secs sounds awfully slow for DNS anyway .. |
| 07:55.01 | Kachingo | peterS: so do I do that through the xmms player? |
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| 07:55.21 | fireba11 | EdLin: guess i need soem more tea to wake up |
| 07:55.25 | peterS | Kachingo: I can't imagine what other interpretation of my last line one could possibly come to |
| 07:55.34 | vhuren | !tell vhuren -about madwifi-install. |
| 07:55.35 | vhuren | !tell vhuren -about madwifi-install |
| 07:55.37 | toonX | EdLin dpkg-reconfigure locales executes with no errors but i get nothing , it just bails out in a sec |
| 07:55.54 | Kachingo | peterS: You'd have thought that |
| 07:56.15 | Kachingo | peterS: Yeah, xmms aint working for some retarded reason |
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| 07:56.41 | dondelelcaro | vhuren: you can just /msg dpkg madwifi-install |
| 07:56.56 | peterS | Kachingo: I haven't used xmms in almost 2 years |
| 07:57.08 | Kachingo | peterS: what do you use? |
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| 07:57.14 | yangtsecn | \join #debian-zh |
| 07:57.14 | peterS | Kachingo: cplay, which does not play audio CDs |
| 07:57.15 | StuckMojo | where does dpgk --unpack put the files? |
| 07:57.26 | peterS | StuckMojo: same place dpkg --install puts them |
| 07:57.34 | Kachingo | peterS: How do you play audio cd's? |
| 07:57.38 | StuckMojo | what's the diff then? |
| 07:57.47 | myren | i want an opteron system. these 8 minute kernel compiles are too long. |
| 07:57.50 | dondelelcaro | StuckMojo: --unpack doesn't run the configure scripts. |
| 07:57.50 | peterS | StuckMojo: whether it finishes the install, or just dumps the files into the filesystem |
| 07:57.51 | Azar | Kachingo, xmms is not so easy to get running, there are several reasons, starting with alsa installation and configuration, it takes several tries to get a sound out of your machine |
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| 07:58.03 | StuckMojo | ah |
| 07:58.10 | StuckMojo | thx |
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| 07:58.14 | dondelelcaro | or at least, not all of them |
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| 07:58.24 | EdLin | toonX: what happens when you apt-get install locales? |
| 07:58.38 | peterS | Kachingo: using cdtool, but I honestly don't play audio CDs often, most of the time I just play them from my hard drive after converting them to ogg files |
| 07:58.39 | prjktdtnt | Ok I need an answer to a question I asked above. My question is this: With VSFTPD do you need ssl enabled for it to send fully secure (as in encryption for login and everything?) if so how do you get the RSA key it needs to work? |
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| 07:58.44 | toonX | does anyone have any idea why might dpkg-reconfigure locales not work , i do have the locales package installed |
| 07:58.53 | dondelelcaro | toonX: it doesn't work in what way? |
| 07:58.55 | toonX | EdLin says it's installed |
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| 07:59.50 | toonX | dondelelcaro it should open some dialog , and let me choose the locale i want and than generate them , but it doesn't do anything , just bails out with no errors at all |
| 08:00.21 | dondelelcaro | toonX: run dpkg-reconfigure -fdialog locales; to start with |
| 08:00.35 | toonX | dondelelcaro ok |
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| 08:01.15 | toonX | dondelelcaro same thing , nothing , apt says dialog it's installed too |
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| 08:02.09 | toonX | dondelelcaro maybe i'm missing some packages .. who knows |
| 08:02.38 | dondelelcaro | toonX: do a debconf-show locales; and make sure that it prints output |
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| 08:03.04 | toonX | dondelelcaro im on it :) |
| 08:03.34 | toonX | dondelelcaro it print's this , locales/default_environment_locale: valencia_ES.UTF-8@euro , and i want en_US |
| 08:04.10 | toonX | dondelelcaro it's some strange spanish dialect :) |
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| 08:04.30 | EdLin | toonX: are you sure you're running Debian? |
| 08:04.33 | litage | fireba11: yes, that's why i'm asking about it :) |
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| 08:05.46 | toonX | EdLin it's a custom debian build by the local university here , anyway it uses debian's repossitories |
| 08:05.48 | fox-boy | hi, all... i'm looking at a Squid log and see a date stamp 1127091831.671. How do I read this? |
| 08:05.56 | EdLin | !based on Debian |
| 08:05.56 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
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| 08:06.17 | dondelelcaro | toonX: uh... that sure sounds like they've broken locale's configure script then |
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| 08:06.30 | toonX | dondelelcaro it seems so .. |
| 08:06.37 | dondelelcaro | toonX: dpkg -l locales; |
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| 08:07.04 | qzio | is there a way to stop a module from loading autmaticly? it's not in /etc/modules and i've put the module_name in /etc/hotplug/blacklist without results |
| 08:07.08 | dondelelcaro | toonX: and then md5sum /var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.configure; [after looking at it first.] |
| 08:07.28 | toonX | dondelelcaro ok |
| 08:07.54 | sep | qzio, also put it as skip in discover, and verify it's not in your initrd |
| 08:08.03 | toonX | dondelelcaro well , md5sum /var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.configure doesn't exist !! |
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| 08:08.23 | Dewi | toonX: which? |
| 08:08.30 | Dewi | md5sum of locales.configure? |
| 08:08.32 | Dewi | or |
| 08:08.32 | Azar | yep me too I removed via82cxx_audio from /etc/modules but when I reboot it still loads it |
| 08:08.42 | prjktdtnt | Uhh I guess I am out of luck considering I have asked a question twice and no-one replied? |
| 08:08.45 | xuniluser | How do i cancel/remove print jobs? |
| 08:08.47 | toonX | locales.configure |
| 08:08.48 | dondelelcaro | toonX: sorry, locales.config |
| 08:08.49 | toonX | :) |
| 08:08.52 | toonX | ah |
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| 08:09.21 | toonX | dondelelcaro no luck with this one either |
| 08:09.35 | toonX | locales.config it doesn't exist on this linux |
| 08:09.38 | Azar | prjktdtnt, I saw your question but I am just a newbie |
| 08:09.47 | prjktdtnt | dondelelcaro: would it be under locales.conf? |
| 08:09.56 | Dewi | prjktdtnt: I'm afraid I have never heard of using RSA/SSL for FTP. Most people use https. |
| 08:09.58 | dondelelcaro | toonX: well, then your distribution is broken |
| 08:10.10 | toonX | dondelelcaro that's the best bet |
| 08:10.12 | dondelelcaro | toonX: and dpkg-reconfigure locales; isn't going to work at all because of it |
| 08:10.18 | sep | prjktdtnt, have you read /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/README.ssl ??? |
| 08:10.26 | CoffeeBreaks | hardening ssh: is there any way to refuse login tries from clients who do not send identification strings? |
| 08:10.41 | prjktdtnt | sep: no but thanks for mentioning SOMETHING |
| 08:10.48 | bob2 | CoffeeBreaks: if you're going to do that, just use RSA keys |
| 08:10.53 | toonX | dondelelcaro i guess they didn't included support for other languages |
| 08:11.08 | dondelelcaro | who knows? |
| 08:11.19 | dondelelcaro | it's broken, and not really my problem... |
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| 08:11.23 | CoffeeBreaks | bob2: I only use keys, and I also restrict user names |
| 08:11.24 | toonX | thank you all for the support , especially dondelelcaro :) |
| 08:11.26 | sep | prjktdtnt, there are also a few other docs in the same directory worth taking a look at |
| 08:11.30 | Kachingo | dammit, the cable aint coming out without a fight. |
| 08:11.36 | Kachingo | I'll be back |
| 08:11.42 | bob2 | CoffeeBreaks: how do you think other restrictions would help? |
| 08:11.48 | bob2 | if RSA is broken, everyone is utterly fucked |
| 08:11.56 | litage | if i use mkisofs to burn a dvd+r, will i be able to write to the dvd+r later? |
| 08:11.57 | CoffeeBreaks | bob2: but I also see that "Illegal user steven from ::ffff:81.169.181.103" in my logs (actually this is happening right now) |
| 08:12.07 | prjktdtnt | sep: i noticed thx though |
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| 08:12.41 | sep | prjktdtnt, no i need a new amplifier to be thx compliant |
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| 08:13.38 | jm_ | litage: man growisofs |
| 08:13.49 | litage | thanks jm_ |
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| 08:13.53 | jm_ | litage: mkisofs doesn't burn anything |
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| 08:14.09 | nova | hi, how can i start ipop? there is not a file in /etc/init.d |
| 08:14.10 | CoffeeBreaks | bob2: and before each breaking attempt, I see that the host doesn't send identificaiton string. So I wonder if these breaking attemps could just be ignored. |
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| 08:14.30 | sep | nova, it could also happen to be running from inetd |
| 08:14.42 | litage | jm_: so i'd use -Z for the first session, and -M for each subsequent session? |
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| 08:14.52 | nova | sep: ok ty will look futher for that |
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| 08:15.49 | nova | sep: another little question. if i want to set it in hosts.allow is the service name inid then ? |
| 08:16.06 | nova | inetd* |
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| 08:16.24 | jm_ | litage: see Examples section |
| 08:17.13 | guven | hi, is there also a sid netinstall-iso available? |
| 08:17.24 | EdLin | guven: no |
| 08:17.26 | litage | thanks |
| 08:18.11 | EdLin | guven: install netinstall using expert mode and edit sources.list to point to unstable. Not that I recommend that though. |
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| 08:19.52 | sep | nova, iirc you should use the daemon name itself eg: in.tftpd |
| 08:20.00 | guven | EdLin: what would you recommend? install etch and upgrade to sid? |
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| 08:20.10 | prjktdtnt | sep: the reason I asked the question earlier was because my local linux sysadmin instructor suggested I used something that went atop ssh or ssl so that the clear-text password authentication wasnt intercepted therefor posing a security hole |
| 08:20.22 | EdLin | guven: iyntays |
| 08:20.24 | sep | prjktdtnt, good advice |
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| 08:20.37 | guven | ?? |
| 08:20.48 | EdLin | guven: if you need to ask you shouldn't |
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| 08:20.59 | prjktdtnt | sep: so basically since it obviously needs the key for that but when i did the keygen in the exact spot that is listed in /etc/vsftpd.conf it says that it cant find the key...any ideas? |
| 08:21.04 | christianp | i find .ppd for my epson ALC2000. In cups-manager i add a new printer, add ppd driver but in driver list can't say this driver. Now adding .ppd it says Error: this ppd is already installed, but i can't find this driver in the drop-down menu. Can anyone help me please? i need printing!! |
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| 08:21.09 | sep | prjktdtnt, even better advice is to use scp and forget about ftp alltogether :) |
| 08:21.24 | prjktdtnt | sep: have any good info on scp? |
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| 08:21.48 | guven | EdLin: yes maybe |
| 08:22.03 | guven | just want to try out |
| 08:22.24 | sep | prjktdtnt, install the package ssh , say you want to run the server, and thats it |
| 08:22.51 | prjktdtnt | sep: uhh one sec... |
| 08:23.01 | EdLin | guven: you shouldn't install using the testing d-i anyway, its experimental and regularly broken. dist-upgrade from Sarge's netinstall. |
| 08:23.19 | prjktdtnt | prjtkdtnt is equal to pebkac! |
| 08:23.31 | EdLin | guven: I'd reccomend not using sid though untill you get used to sarge and have a *reason* for using sid. |
| 08:24.08 | EdLin | s/untill/until |
| 08:24.25 | guven | EdLin: okay thx |
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| 08:25.18 | EdLin | !thx |
| 08:25.18 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 08:26.07 | guven | thanks EdLin |
| 08:26.19 | EdLin | guven: you're welcome |
| 08:26.21 | takahiro | thx edlin |
| 08:26.44 | EdLin | takahiro: don't make me !thx you. ;-) |
| 08:26.49 | takahiro | lol |
| 08:26.54 | EdLin | !lol |
| 08:26.54 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 08:26.55 | sep | !lol |
| 08:26.56 | qzio | sep: ok, put it in discover.conf same result. I'm guessing it's in initrd, how do i verify/remove ? |
| 08:27.11 | qzio | it's ide_cd if it is to any help :( |
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| 08:27.25 | takahiro | u gies r weered |
| 08:27.33 | sep | qzio, and you have sane reasons for not wanting it ? |
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| 08:27.42 | EdLin | !u |
| 08:27.43 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 08:27.43 | EdLin | !r |
| 08:27.43 | dpkg | methinks r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
| 08:27.43 | Kachingo | Yay, the cable is in the right drive. Stupid thing was in there so tight |
| 08:28.01 | qzio | sep: yeah, plextor dvd-burner cdrecord -scanbus dont find it as long as ide_cd is loaded, if i do rmmod ide_cd it works just ifne |
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| 08:28.07 | qzio | ifne = fine |
| 08:28.09 | prjktdtnt | dangit ok I have an ftp working I just really wish to generate a WORKING rsa key to have it be a secure connection. When I tried using openssh to generate it was unrecognised by vsftpd |
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| 08:28.37 | Kachingo | thank god, it works. Music at last ! |
| 08:28.58 | bob2 | ftp/ssl is only really useful for legacy stuff |
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| 08:29.26 | sep | prjktdtnt, and you made a pem file ? and the pem file have restrictive permisions, and are pointed to in the vsftpd.conf and you have sslenebales true in same config ? |
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| 08:30.16 | prjktdtnt | sep: ok somewhere in there i got TOTALLY lost |
| 08:30.27 | prjktdtnt | sep: rephrase for an idiot |
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| 08:31.13 | prjktdtnt | !prjktdtnt |
| 08:31.13 | dpkg | hmm... prjktdtnt is an idiot |
| 08:31.28 | EdLin | heh |
| 08:31.30 | prjktdtnt | see even dpkg knows |
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| 08:33.27 | fireba11 | now how do i get a searchable list of installed packages ? *wondering* |
| 08:33.42 | EdLin | fireba11: aptitude |
| 08:33.49 | peterS | fireba11: 'dpkg -l' is a list, I don't know what you mean by searchable |
| 08:34.00 | peterS | fireba11: aptitude is an interactive application so maybe that's what you want |
| 08:35.25 | sep | prjktdtnt, your vsftpd.conf contains a path to the pem file, is this path correct for the key you made earlier ? also make sure thefile is not world readable |
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| 08:36.31 | BriajWrk | hi all |
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| 08:38.35 | charolastra | hi everyone |
| 08:38.46 | Kachingo | howdy |
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| 08:40.56 | charolastra | on sid there is freetype (2.1.10-1) put aqsis wants libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.10-2); whats up with that? is this an error on aqsis site? |
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| 08:51.21 | softrat | AHA! Found you!!! |
| 08:51.46 | ledet | wookienz: sounds like wrong permissions on the keys |
| 08:51.55 | softrat | Why does 'openbox' take three minutes to initialize? |
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| 08:52.17 | wookienz | ledet: ok ill look into it, thanks |
| 08:52.34 | pablob | Chrysalid: maybe with hdparm? |
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| 08:53.39 | Chrysalid | pablob: what's that? |
| 08:53.41 | debnewbie | when I try to umount a device created with mdadm I get "umount: /mnt/md0: device busy", and if I try to stop it with mdadm -S I get the same. how can I know why it is busy? or am I doing something wrong? |
| 08:53.44 | Chrysalid | hmm wait I can use google |
| 08:53.56 | softrat | Well, it has been fun! |
| 08:54.44 | AeonFlux | My ISP don`t have DNS server what i have to do ? |
| 08:54.49 | zet | hello, I have 12 cd of Debian Sarge and since I don't have access to internet I want to create a local repository of packages on my computer. I thought that I might copy all packages to /var/cache/apt/archive/ directory, but since on the cds the packages are in separate directories it seems to be tedious work. What would you recommend me in this case? |
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| 08:56.01 | AeonFlux | get debian on 2 DVD`s |
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| 08:57.23 | AeonFlux | My ISP don`t have DNS server what i have to do ? |
| 08:57.35 | dondelelcaro | AeonFlux: either run your own, or find a public one. |
| 08:57.54 | dondelelcaro | my university allows recursive queries to it from external ips for some reason... others probably do as well |
| 08:58.10 | charolastra | zet: debian should take care of the cds if it knows what's on them; then it will prompt you to instert them when required |
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| 09:00.18 | zet | charolastra: I know, but I want to create local archive from these cds on my computer. |
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| 09:00.45 | charolastra | zet: why waste that much disk space? |
| 09:03.14 | Kachingo | haha ^^^ |
| 09:03.24 | sep | AeonFlux, use you'r isp's isp's dns server |
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| 09:03.36 | zet | charolastra: I have a large hard drive and this is much convenient than inserting cds each time I install a package. |
| 09:05.04 | charolastra | well, you are on your own then |
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| 09:05.41 | litage | i ran used growisofs to burn a directory to dvd. at the end, growisofs gave an error about failing to close the session, and the dvd is not mountable. any suggestions? output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WEStRy72.html |
| 09:06.06 | yang | Is there a package to maintain GPRS connections? |
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| 09:06.24 | shingouz_ | yang: what do you mean "maintain"? |
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| 09:07.18 | obouillet | hello everybody |
| 09:07.39 | yang | shingouz_: to setup |
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| 09:07.51 | shingouz_ | yang: i like wvdial |
| 09:07.55 | obouillet | someone how know well debian boot please ? |
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| 09:08.13 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: it boots, which is generally well enough. |
| 09:08.21 | Chrysalid | lol |
| 09:08.45 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: :/ |
| 09:08.48 | yang | shingouz_: is it for GPRS too? |
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| 09:09.08 | yang | shingouz_: in description says PPP |
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| 09:09.39 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: do you know why, when my debian boot, it stop at the end of level1 (rcS script) |
| 09:10.01 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: and don't go to rc2.d ? |
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| 09:10.44 | obouillet | it's not a usually installed debian, but a copy of an other .. |
| 09:10.48 | obouillet | (with lilo) |
| 09:10.58 | obouillet | but the same with grub .. |
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| 09:11.10 | shingouz_ | yang: yes it works for gprs too, i run it on mine |
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| 09:12.54 | yang | shingouz_: which gprs card you have |
| 09:13.17 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: what is the last output from the rcS script? have you modified your inittab to change the default runlevel? |
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| 09:15.00 | obouillet | I didn't change the inittab ... and the last output of rcS is: "setting up the ICE directory" |
| 09:15.26 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: there is no probleme with it .. |
| 09:16.02 | wookienz | hi, how do i transfer keys so i can scp into a box adn not have to you a password... ie add it to a cron job? |
| 09:16.28 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: I try to put rc2.d script in rcS.d directory but it creates bad error like "cannot write in /dev/null" durring postgres start |
| 09:16.37 | pablob | wookienz: ssh-copyid |
| 09:16.38 | dondelelcaro | !tell wookienz -about ssh without password |
| 09:16.39 | mackbeer | can anyone throw me a pointer on what i have to do when getting this error while trying to install packages using apt on stable? http://pastebin.com/376616 |
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| 09:17.07 | bhanu | Hi, suppose i want to run an application on my system which wants RAM not less than 512MB and i have just 256Mb then is there a way that i can make the app beleive that i indeed have 512 by chagin somehting ,like the paging |
| 09:17.08 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: moving stuff into rcS.d is the totally wrong thing to do. |
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| 09:17.23 | Chrysalid | mackbeer: install perl? |
| 09:17.28 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: indeed, ICE probably shouldn't be there at all; since that's the last thing that ran, most likely the init script isn't exiting. |
| 09:17.49 | yang | bhanu: you have to make bigger swap |
| 09:17.53 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: I think so but I don't know what to do .. |
| 09:17.54 | pablob | bhanu: do you have swap? |
| 09:18.03 | mackbeer | Chrysalid, then it asks for perl-basics |
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| 09:18.11 | bhanu | yang: i have swap |
| 09:18.14 | wookienz | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 09:18.18 | bhanu | does that do the job |
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| 09:18.26 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: the script rcS finich (I put an echo "end rcS" at the end of it ..) |
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| 09:18.34 | Stabilisator | hi |
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| 09:18.57 | mackbeer | it's crying about unmet dependencies no matter what i try to install |
| 09:18.58 | bhanu | yang: do the apps look at swap as RAM |
| 09:19.30 | yang | yes |
| 09:19.31 | Stabilisator | know anyone a little app that can autocopy pictures from a cd to a special folder when i insert a cd. |
| 09:19.35 | nkuttler | mackbeer: already tried apt-get -f install? |
| 09:19.50 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: is it /sbin/init which launch scripts /etc/init.d/rcS end rc ? |
| 09:20.16 | mackbeer | nkuttler, that's a new one for me. i'll try that, thanks :) |
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| 09:20.21 | knj | Anyone knows when MySQL5 can be found in the testing-packages? |
| 09:21.21 | mackbeer | nkuttler, same thing happens |
| 09:21.23 | streuner | Why is 'vagabund' banned? |
| 09:21.28 | nkuttler | mackbeer: join #flood |
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| 09:22.50 | foo | How can I mount a floppy disk in debian? |
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| 09:23.15 | streuner | foo: man mount ? |
| 09:23.21 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: via inittab, yes. |
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| 09:23.38 | EdLin | streuner: vagabund was some sort of flaming bot, IIRC. |
| 09:23.42 | Chrysalid | [12:22] <foo> How can I mount a floppy disk in debian? |
| 09:23.47 | streuner | dondelelcaro: why is 'vagabund' banned? |
| 09:23.57 | Chrysalid | mount -t <whatever fs> /dev/fda /mnt/mountpoint |
| 09:24.16 | Chrysalid | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:24.19 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: ok ... but I have copy the inittab from a source machine which boot .. |
| 09:24.41 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: you don't need to copy inittab; you need to figure out which script is failing to finish, and fix it. |
| 09:24.55 | rdjurovich | is it possible to install 3.1r0a onto a system with ICH7r SATA raid 0+1? Any hints appreciated :D |
| 09:24.57 | dondelelcaro | streuner: because it was spewing random garbage to the channel |
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| 09:25.37 | foo | debian:/mnt# mount -t msdos /dev/fda /mnt/floppy/ |
| 09:25.37 | foo | mount: special device /dev/fda does not exist |
| 09:25.39 | dondelelcaro | if some user has a question about why they were banned, have them /msg me. |
| 09:25.42 | foo | Chrysalid: Hmm, any ideas? |
| 09:26.02 | midg3t | Chrysalid: try /dev/fd0 |
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| 09:26.08 | midg3t | foo ^ |
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| 09:26.17 | rdjurovich | Hmm, maybe a better question - anyone here had any Sarge experience with RAID? O |
| 09:26.21 | streuner | s(he) didn't ask me, i was interested in, because i was offline about 7 hours yesterday. |
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| 09:26.28 | midg3t | oh, DON'T MOUNT AS MSDOS! |
| 09:26.29 | midg3t | use vfat instead |
| 09:26.33 | questi | can i use nvidia driver with 2.4 kernel ? |
| 09:26.35 | emergo | I just added I printer to cups through the localhost:631 interface. But when I write lpq in bash its the old printer showing, why? |
| 09:26.36 | midg3t | otherwise you run the risk of hosing your lovely long filenames |
| 09:26.52 | foo | debian:/mnt# mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ |
| 09:26.53 | foo | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, |
| 09:26.54 | foo | midg3t: ^ |
| 09:26.55 | foo | Hmm |
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| 09:27.03 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: ok but ... rcS finish and rc2.d don't start ... |
| 09:27.28 | EdLin | questi: yes |
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| 09:27.32 | foo | rofl |
| 09:27.41 | midg3t | sounds like the floppy isn't formatted then |
| 09:27.56 | Chrysalid | mke2fs then :P |
| 09:27.56 | Guerin | yay, vagabund was banned |
| 09:28.01 | foo | midg3t: I see. Can I format it under linux? |
| 09:28.09 | Chrysalid | mke2fs /dev/fd0 |
| 09:28.11 | Chrysalid | if i am right |
| 09:28.19 | foo | Chrysalid: I think I need to put vfat somewhere in there :0 |
| 09:28.28 | midg3t | mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0 |
| 09:28.33 | foo | thanks |
| 09:28.38 | Guerin | i'd be inclined to lift the ban if he signed in from an @betty-ford-clinic.com account |
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| 09:28.43 | Chrysalid | lol |
| 09:28.45 | midg3t | that way it will be readable on non-linux systems |
| 09:28.46 | questi | emergo: did you make default your new printer :s |
| 09:28.51 | foo | midg3t: mkfs.vfat: No such file or directory |
| 09:28.51 | streuner | foo: what kernel do you have? cat /proc/version |
| 09:28.53 | midg3t | otherwise leave out "-t vfat" and you'll get an ext2 floppy |
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| 09:29.07 | midg3t | maybe; mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd0 |
| 09:29.17 | foo | streuner: Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 09:29.19 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: how do you know that rcS is finishing? the output you've given so far indicates that the last script that is running isn't returning. |
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| 09:29.32 | streuner | foo: nevermind, i didn't see your message before, so a custom kernel... |
| 09:29.42 | dondelelcaro | obouillet: boot using init=/bin/bash; and run through the init process manually. |
| 09:29.43 | foo | midg3t: mkfs.msdos: No such file or directory - hmm. Whack |
| 09:29.49 | midg3t | ok, just go with the default |
| 09:29.50 | foo | I suppose I could get on Windows if needed |
| 09:29.52 | Stabilisator | hmm any ideas to make an autocopy from cd to a path? |
| 09:29.53 | rdjurovich | hey guys, how do I get someone smarts attention? lol - I need help with raid, and my boss wont donate money to the Debian project until I can actually get it going lol |
| 09:30.05 | foo | midg3t: Will the default work on Windows? |
| 09:30.05 | EdLin | midg3t: e2fs is a bad choice for a floppy. If you need a Unix-like fs on a floppy try minix. |
| 09:30.15 | midg3t | foo: probably not |
| 09:30.17 | dondelelcaro | rdjurovich: you ask a specific question, and someone will answer. If you need a consultant, see debian.org/consultants |
| 09:30.23 | obouillet | dondelelcaro: thanks, I with try this and comme back later ;) |
| 09:30.25 | foo | me goes to a windows box |
| 09:30.28 | midg3t | EdLin: in 100 words or less, what's wrong with ext2 on floppy? |
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| 09:30.56 | coffeepak | rdjurovich, you can ask for skin to a tiger |
| 09:31.24 | rdjurovich | dondelelcaro: thanks - I already asked a question, but no-one responded. I need help installing 3.1r0a on a machine with ICH7r software raid |
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| 09:31.38 | Guerin | software raid is pointless |
| 09:31.41 | dondelelcaro | rdjurovich: don't use software raid |
| 09:31.45 | rdjurovich | :( |
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| 09:31.51 | rdjurovich | what do I do then? |
| 09:31.54 | dondelelcaro | rdjurovich: if you need to use it at all, use the software raid built into the kernel. |
| 09:31.56 | hutgyrr | if I want to backup to multiple disks (DVDs or Hard Drives). Can I get external arrays, and can they be controlled simultaneously from linux? |
| 09:31.59 | Guerin | just ignore it and make your own raid in real software |
| 09:32.07 | midg3t | consider LVM |
| 09:32.08 | rdjurovich | i have 4 hdd's ready for raid 0+1 but can't use them |
| 09:32.14 | coffeepak | softraid is just a game/joke |
| 09:32.22 | wookienz | dondelelcaro: had al ook through that bot help file...but still no joyed.. get permissioned denied... unless i log in as root on the client machine and try and scp... |
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| 09:32.27 | Guerin | rdjurovich: you can, you just can't use the cheap hunk o' shite on the motherboard as the controller |
| 09:32.51 | rdjurovich | dondelelcaro: what software raid is built into the kernel? |
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| 09:33.03 | rdjurovich | Guerin: what do I have to buy for my box then? |
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| 09:33.21 | rdjurovich | Guerin: is there a cheap hardware-raid controller I can buy (I.e around $200)? |
| 09:33.22 | Guerin | rdjurovich: nothing, for software. For real raid you'd need a raid controller. |
| 09:33.23 | liable | rdjurovich: its actually an option in the installer |
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| 09:33.42 | rdjurovich | liable: where abouts in the installer? expert? |
| 09:33.50 | Guerin | rdjurovich: i have no idea how much hardware raid controllers cost, but as I understand, there are two kinds: expensive and shit. |
| 09:33.52 | coffeepak | even it's a joke which is onboard ata raid |
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| 09:34.05 | liable | no, partitioning |
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| 09:34.21 | dondelelcaro | rdjurovich: the kernel has its own implementation of software raid; it's relatively robust. If you want hardware raid, 3ware cards can generally be had for ~$200 and they're fairly decent.. |
| 09:34.37 | midg3t | dondelelcaro: is there a name for it? |
| 09:34.38 | rdjurovich | liable: when I get to the partitioning section, the installer recognises no disks and goes all red n ugly :( |
| 09:34.52 | dondelelcaro | midg3t: for what? |
| 09:35.05 | midg3t | the kernel's own implementation of software raid |
| 09:35.07 | rdjurovich | dondelelcaro: is there a site I can find these cards on? |
| 09:35.13 | coffeepak | ata raid = no processor,bad multi-task,poor bandwidth |
| 09:35.21 | Guerin | !fgi 3ware+raid+controller |
| 09:35.27 | Guerin | !fgi rdjurovich 3ware+raid+controller |
| 09:35.28 | dpkg | rdjurovich: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=3ware+raid+controller |
| 09:35.28 | dondelelcaro | rdjurovich: www.3ware.com |
| 09:35.31 | coffeepak | +poor protocol |
| 09:35.42 | rdjurovich | lol sorry guys, i'm just being lazy |
| 09:35.52 | dondelelcaro | coffeepak: there are hardware implementations of ata raid, surprisingly enough... |
| 09:35.52 | coffeepak | useless at all |
| 09:36.04 | rdjurovich | thanks for the help. man it's like a whole world of fellow nerdy ppl over here |
| 09:36.10 | rdjurovich | lol |
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| 09:36.27 | questi | (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) |
| 09:36.30 | questi | :s |
| 09:36.31 | EdLin | !lol |
| 09:36.31 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 09:36.32 | coffeepak | dondelelcaro, I wish there was a toy raid,too |
| 09:36.42 | dondelelcaro | coffeepak: ? |
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| 09:36.58 | rdjurovich | well, i can't wait to become a debian expert (hopefully) and then come back here and help. haha/heh/hah/bwahahaha :D |
| 09:36.59 | coffeepak | ata hardware raid ~= toy |
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| 09:37.18 | dondelelcaro | coffeepak: not hardly... |
| 09:37.29 | rdjurovich | so will hardware raid just emulate the disks as like a single PATA disk, or will I need a driver? |
| 09:37.52 | coffeepak | if you know what the computer is |
| 09:37.53 | spb_nick | ok, if it came to software raid. there is my, a bit, tough question: how to start lvm on software raid0 on software raid1 from initrd? And don't laugh, please :)! |
| 09:37.57 | petemc | rdjurovich: you'll need a driver for your raid controller |
| 09:38.15 | dondelelcaro | rdjurovich: yes, you'll need a driver, but the installer has the drivers for 3ware on it |
| 09:38.20 | rdjurovich | I am hoping that sarge has it up her sleeve |
| 09:38.27 | rdjurovich | ok, 3ware it is :D |
| 09:38.37 | spb_nick | sarge is HER? |
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| 09:38.51 | rdjurovich | lol, him her, wateva, it's a beast of a wicked distro |
| 09:38.57 | rdjurovich | whoops, i mean haha |
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| 09:39.14 | rdjurovich | well, thanks to all! i'm off. |
| 09:39.15 | coffeepak | sarge -> general... a long long way |
| 09:39.26 | liable | rdjurovich: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html |
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| 09:40.45 | spb_nick | coffeepak: I knew that:) |
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| 09:41.28 | hutgyrr | we have about 6 or 7 macs here in the office and two linux servers. The files are quite large (average is about 60-70mb). Files will need to be backed up every week from the macs. We were going to do it onto DVD and archive them that way. For this to work, I was going to create an index available thru the web browser so users could find out what disk to find certain files on |
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| 09:42.02 | Guerin | 60-70GB files to dvd? Are you insane? |
| 09:42.07 | Guerin | oh wait |
| 09:42.08 | Guerin | mb |
| 09:42.12 | Guerin | as you were... |
| 09:42.12 | hutgyrr | the reason we were going to use DVD is because we thought it would be the cheapest and the boss wants to be able to take a physical copy of the files home with him |
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| 09:42.34 | hutgyrr | incase of fire or whatever. |
| 09:42.35 | dondelelcaro | hutgyrr: why not just make an updated find . -type f; listing of each disk and let the users grep it? |
| 09:42.37 | Eclipser | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:42.46 | dondelelcaro | far simpler |
| 09:42.56 | wookienz | when i generate keys so i can scp from one box to another....i get permission denied when i try and scp after copying the keys across to the host box from the client.... what name should the key being transferred have ? "authorized_keys", "authorized_keys2" ??? |
| 09:42.56 | debnewbie | How can I know why I get this "mdadm: fail to stop array /dev/md0: Device or resource busy"? |
| 09:43.09 | dondelelcaro | wookienz: authorized_keys |
| 09:43.19 | spb_nick | so, there is no answer here, or is my question (about RAID) just overlooked? In former case, is there any software-raid channel? |
| 09:43.27 | antgel | debnewbie: because you are trying to stop the array when it's busy |
| 09:43.35 | dondelelcaro | spb_nick: repeat the question, please... |
| 09:43.42 | hutgyrr | im just wondering what would be the best system to do this, im beginning to doubt the idea of backing up on all DVD |
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| 09:43.54 | Kachingo | what do I change in grub to make windows the default boot instead of debian? |
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| 09:43.59 | dondelelcaro | wookienz: fe: cat ~/.ssh/identity.pub |ssh foohost 'mkdir ~/.ssh && cat - >> .ssh/authorized_keys' |
| 09:44.05 | antgel | spb_nick: read around. lots of docs on this |
| 09:44.10 | debnewbie | antgel: all right. the thing is why it is busy? who or what is using it? how can I know it? |
| 09:44.15 | antgel | Kachingo: have you read the grub docs? |
| 09:44.16 | Guerin | Kachingo: read /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 09:44.33 | antgel | debnewbie: it's probably mounted |
| 09:44.37 | Kachingo | guerin: yeah, I have. I don't quite get it |
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| 09:44.56 | hutgyrr | i dunno about using tape |
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| 09:45.10 | coywolf | what is hardwall? |
| 09:45.13 | debnewbie | antgel: it is. and when i try to umount it I get "device busy"... so I can't umount it... |
| 09:45.20 | hutgyrr | maybe backing it up onto multiple hard disks that are hotpluggable.... |
| 09:45.23 | Guerin | coywolf: bang your head against it and see |
| 09:45.25 | antgel | debnewbie: what's the mount point? |
| 09:45.28 | linuxfreck | hutgyrr: did you think about hot-swappable hard-disks? |
| 09:45.31 | Guerin | debnewbie: lsof, fuser |
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| 09:45.44 | debnewbie | Guerin: let's... |
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| 09:45.53 | emergo | n/quit |
| 09:46.04 | debnewbie | antgel: /mnt/md0 and noone is there... |
| 09:46.09 | linuxfreck | hutgyrr: or even external usb/firewire harddisks |
| 09:46.10 | spb_nick | antgel: Thanks :) Sorry, I've tried this for a while but to no avail. Neither mkinitrd nor yaird are able to detect correctly my partitionable raid devices (and they ARE partitionable) :( |
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| 09:46.45 | visi | hi |
| 09:47.04 | visi | I've a problem |
| 09:47.09 | visi | running make-kpkg |
| 09:47.18 | visi | it doesn't create debian/changelog |
| 09:47.23 | spb_nick | antgel: and I'm facing a lot of difficulties making my own script for mkinitrd |
| 09:47.24 | visi | kernel-package 9.007 |
| 09:47.28 | visi | (testing) |
| 09:47.45 | visi | here is the error: |
| 09:47.50 | visi | install -p -o root -g root -m 644 debian/changelog debian/tmp-image/usr/share/doc/kernel-image-2.6.13.2/changelog.Debian |
| 09:47.53 | visi | install: cannot stat `debian/changelog': No such file or directory |
| 09:47.55 | visi | make[1]: *** [real_stamp_image] Error 1 |
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| 09:47.58 | visi | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13.2' |
| 09:48.00 | visi | make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 2 |
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| 09:48.01 | Dewi | Kachingo: I don't know much about grub, but if you specify exactly what you didn't get in the docs, these guys might help |
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| 09:48.06 | visi | since yesterday it works correctly |
| 09:48.12 | visi | now it doesn't work anymore |
| 09:48.16 | spb_nick | dondelelcaro: how to start lvm on software raid0 on software raid1 from initrd? There is a tiny detail, which is a showstopper - this is partitionable raid1. |
| 09:48.16 | dondelelcaro | visi: do *not* paste here; and stop overusing enter. |
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| 09:48.26 | litage | when growisofs burns /home/user/, how do i tell it to create /home/user/ on the cd/dvd, rather than simply burning /home/user/* to the cd/dvd? |
| 09:48.29 | Kachingo | guerin: can I just swap different ones around so windows is at the top of the list? |
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| 09:48.39 | visi | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 09:48.45 | dondelelcaro | visi: you haven't run make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg YOUROPTIONS clean; |
| 09:49.04 | dondelelcaro | visi: /msg dpkg kp mantra; for details. |
| 09:49.05 | jm_ | litage: that's up to mkisofs |
| 09:49.17 | Guerin | Kachingo: um ... that's what it says |
| 09:49.20 | antgel | spb_nick: does it _need_ to be so complicated? anyway, complicated problems need to be broken down into little, easy-to-manage problems |
| 09:49.38 | visi | dondelelcaro: I start make-kpkg with a clean kernel only the .config |
| 09:49.45 | Kachingo | guerin: What does the chainload do? I don't think it sez anything there |
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| 09:50.00 | Guerin | Kachingo: apt-get install grub-doc |
| 09:50.12 | dondelelcaro | visi: that's fine; you still need to run those two steps. |
| 09:50.18 | smartbhai | hi people .. i m using xchat and i have registered my nick now how do i log on with it |
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| 09:50.38 | Dewi | smartbhai: ask nickserv for help (it's the identify command) |
| 09:50.40 | Guerin | smartbhai: /msg nickserv help identify |
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| 09:50.45 | visi | dondelelcaro: I already run a clean |
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| 09:50.56 | Guerin | visi: JUST DO IT |
| 09:51.01 | visi | again ? |
| 09:51.07 | Guerin | yes |
| 09:51.09 | visi | ok |
| 09:51.12 | Guerin | it's not there for no reason |
| 09:51.20 | dondelelcaro | visi: exactly like I gave it; yes. At the end of those two steps, debian/changelog should exist. |
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| 09:51.29 | Kachingo | argh, how do I give myself permission to alter the file? |
| 09:51.36 | smartbhai | Guerin : what next |
| 09:51.37 | Dewi | Guerin: that's news to me. I wish I understood makefiles. |
| 09:51.42 | Guerin | Kachingo: sudo or su |
| 09:51.50 | Dewi | smartbhai: nickserv just told you |
| 09:52.04 | Guerin | smartbhai: follow instructions. Ask in #freenode if you need more help |
| 09:52.12 | smartbhai | guerin :yes got it |
| 09:52.53 | visi | ok thanks guys |
| 09:52.55 | Dewi | Guerin: why do we ask silly questions do you think? Fingers faster than brains? |
| 09:53.11 | Kachingo | how do I do that outside of the console? |
| 09:53.31 | antgel | Dewi: once you get used to sucking that nipple, you never want to stop :) |
| 09:53.31 | smartbhai | guerin : /msg <my_nick> identify <my_passowrd> right?? |
| 09:53.32 | Dewi | Kachingo: outside of the console? do you mean in gnome or something? |
| 09:53.42 | Kachingo | yeah. |
| 09:53.47 | Kachingo | well. kde |
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| 09:54.07 | antgel | Kachingo: why are we helping you make windows boot by default? we should be ashamed of ourselves |
| 09:54.21 | Dewi | Kachingo: well, gnome is set up in such a way that programs that need root have "gksu" in the reference |
| 09:54.38 | visi | sorry for bother you |
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| 09:54.44 | Dewi | Kachingo: so it just asks you as needed |
| 09:55.13 | Dewi | Kachingo: su and sudo start a sort of "child context" within which you are root - but that concept doesn't make sense in a GUI |
| 09:55.23 | Dewi | unless there was some kind of "root window" or something |
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| 09:55.45 | D3vIN | hey i got a question, i just installed debian for the first time. and i went to start kdm then loged in , but im in the really beater looking X. but i wanna boot in to kde |
| 09:55.47 | Kachingo | antgel: haha, yeah. I'm not the only one who uses the computer. I'll annoy other people when it boots into linux |
| 09:56.24 | Dewi | D3vIN: you're in the really better looking X instead of KDE? do you mean gnome? |
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| 09:57.04 | Kachingo | dewi: it doesnt ask me as needed in KDE, just says I don't have permission |
| 09:57.11 | Dewi | Kachingo: todo what? |
| 09:57.36 | Kachingo | to edit stuff like grub |
| 09:57.37 | D3vIN | Dewi no im in some crappy looking thing i gotta right click to get windows to pop up =( |
| 09:57.40 | Dewi | Kachingo: you might need to start a new KDE session as root. I don't think I can help. |
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| 09:57.48 | hutgyrr | linuxfreck: have you nay pointers as to the kind of system I should be looking at? |
| 09:57.55 | hutgyrr | *an |
| 09:57.58 | hutgyrr | *any |
| 09:58.05 | Kachingo | dewi: It doesn't let me login as root |
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| 09:58.37 | hutgyrr | is it some sort of RAID array? |
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| 09:58.57 | Ronin | Kachingo: nor should it |
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| 09:59.07 | Dewi | Ronin: how does he act as root in KDE? |
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| 09:59.14 | Dewi | for synaptic or whatever |
| 09:59.24 | spb_nick | antgel: ok, may be there is no need for such complication, but I already simplified it a bit :) There is a bunch of reasons: 1. I need cheap, fast and dependable RAID (so it's software raid 1+0); 2. I need root to be on the RAID (so it's initrd); 3. I need swap to be on the RAID and it needs to be on two raid1's, because the kernel will do it better on two partitions, than on one raid0 (so it's partitionable raid1); there is no way to make more than four |
| 09:59.26 | antgel | Kachingo: can't you use su(do)? |
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| 09:59.38 | linuxfreck | hutgyrr: there are lots of vendors that have external harddisk systems |
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| 09:59.45 | Ronin | you dont, you either open a term and su, or what happens if you run synaptic as a user? does it not say put in root password |
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| 09:59.58 | linuxfreck | hutgyrr: what you need depends on the amount of data, your backup strategy, budget, etc |
| 10:00.10 | antgel | spb_nick: that's a lot of reasons. 2 is false afaik. |
| 10:00.11 | hutgyrr | mmmm |
| 10:00.44 | Kachingo | antgel: yeah, i can. How do you edit stuff like grub in the command console? |
| 10:00.49 | hutgyrr | well alot of the data might never need to be accessed again more than once or twice |
| 10:00.50 | spb_nick | antgel: mmm... why do you think that? |
| 10:01.00 | Ronin | Kachingo: you su to root and use your editor of choice is one way |
| 10:01.09 | nkuttler | mackbeer: /topic, you probably just have to wait longer |
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| 10:01.12 | antgel | Kachingo: you use any unix editor such as vi or emacs |
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| 10:01.30 | Dewi | Kachingo: you can start KDE apps from the terminal provided you are IN kde |
| 10:01.34 | mackbeer | nkuttler, that's what i was thinking |
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| 10:01.39 | antgel | spb_nick: because if the raid modules are compiled into the kernel directly, not as modules, you don't need the initrd |
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| 10:01.51 | Kachingo | how do you start the apps? |
| 10:01.58 | Dewi | Kachingo: type the name |
| 10:02.04 | Ronin | Kachingo: write the name usually |
| 10:02.06 | smartbhai | how do i register a channel |
| 10:02.13 | Dewi | smartbhai: ask nickserv |
| 10:02.13 | Ronin | smartbhai: /msg chanserv help |
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| 10:02.18 | antgel | Kachingo: _please_ go and get a good book on *nix |
| 10:02.18 | hutgyrr | linuxfreck: Who are the best vendors for this type of thing |
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| 10:02.35 | Herben | Hey, how can I generate an encrypted password to use with htaccess files? |
| 10:02.46 | Dewi | antgel: do good unix books even discuss KDE? :P |
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| 10:03.11 | antgel | Dewi: i hope not. they should cover typing a program name at the shell prompt. jeez. |
| 10:03.17 | Dewi | antgel: I've been using unix for like a decade, but I still haven't figured out gksu properly myself |
| 10:03.17 | spb_nick | Herben: man htpasswd |
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| 10:03.24 | linuxfreck | hutgyrr: I didn't do any market survey lately, sorry |
| 10:03.40 | hutgyrr | thanks anyway |
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| 10:03.58 | Dewi | antgel: I'm sure Kachingo knows that. He's just not engaging that knowledge because he's in KDE. |
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| 10:04.40 | Kachingo | fine, I'll download gnome |
| 10:04.42 | spb_nick | antgel: I knew that. But I need root on RAID, for reliability, not for module loading. |
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| 10:04.56 | antgel | Dewi: i don't know _what_ Kachingo knows |
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| 10:06.23 | spb_nick | antgel: And, BTW, I can't autostart raid0 on raid1 even with the modules compiled in, because raid autodetection code does not check raid devices for raid devices. |
| 10:06.28 | antgel | spb_nick: so what? i told you that you can have root on raid with no initrd if your raid modules are built straight into the kernel. |
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| 10:07.31 | spb_nick | spb_nick: I mean, it does not check the devices which it just created. |
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| 10:07.44 | spb_nick | antgel: I mean, it does not check the devices which it just created. |
| 10:08.05 | Kachingo | antgel: first time using linux ever :P |
| 10:08.07 | antgel | spb_nick: you could consider raid 5 |
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| 10:10.15 | spb_nick | antgel: Thanks, maybe, but it is not that reliable, and I don't have much CPU power to calculate all that XOR's :( BTW, there is raid10 in 2.6.11, but it's marked EXPERIMENTAL, and i'm not going to use experimental feature on unstable kernel :) |
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| 10:10.43 | antgel | spb_nick: why is it not that reliable? have you tried it with your cpu? |
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| 10:11.08 | r3tex | how do i turn off the auto dhcpclient on bootup? |
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| 10:11.26 | Chrysalid | remove the symlink from /etc/init.d ? |
| 10:11.31 | streuner | r3tex: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 10:11.32 | r3tex | hmm |
| 10:11.33 | antgel | r3tex: man interfaces |
| 10:11.41 | streuner | r3tex: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 10:11.43 | antgel | Chrysalid: worst advice ever |
| 10:11.49 | Chrysalid | :| |
| 10:12.01 | antgel | Chrysalid: maybe, not _ever_ |
| 10:12.04 | liable | !iydkdg Chrysalid |
| 10:12.05 | dpkg | Chrysalid: If You Don't Know, Don't Guess... |
| 10:12.12 | Chrysalid | damn. |
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| 10:12.45 | spb_nick | antgel: because it will not survive 2 out of 4 disk failure, and I have only 2 diferrent types of drives for my 4 disk array. No I've not tested it yet, my bad. |
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| 10:13.16 | antgel | spb_nick: ever heard the phrase "champagne taste, beer pocket"? |
| 10:13.28 | smartbhai | hi people when i try to register a channel it says im not the channel operator |
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| 10:13.39 | liable | smartbhai: #freenode |
| 10:13.47 | r3tex | antgel: thanx |
| 10:13.49 | spb_nick | antgel: nope, i'm not that experienced in english sayings, i'm russian, sorry :) |
| 10:14.05 | smartbhai | liable : im not able to send messages to freenode |
| 10:14.20 | liable | smartbhai: wait untill they give you voice |
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| 10:14.27 | r3tex | smartbhai: someone beat you to it =P |
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| 10:14.51 | smartbhai | r3tex : i didnt get u |
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| 10:15.00 | antgel | !tell smartbhai about u |
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| 10:15.10 | bowyakka | i have a debian box i am maintaining |
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| 10:15.19 | r3tex | smartbhai: someone registered it before you? |
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| 10:15.28 | r3tex | bowyakkacool |
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| 10:15.34 | liable | smartbhai: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml |
| 10:15.49 | bowyakka | is there an easy way to update all the packages on the box, i come from the evil gentoo users so what i am looking for is the debian version of emerge -U world |
| 10:16.04 | dondelelcaro | bowyakka: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; |
| 10:16.08 | r3tex | isn't it apt-get upgrade? |
| 10:16.23 | nkuttler | r3tex: man apt-get |
| 10:16.42 | r3tex | apt seems a lot cooler, portage puts in lots of "dependencies" automatically that aren't really necessary |
| 10:16.50 | r3tex | but it's hard to find packages in apt imo |
| 10:16.51 | r3tex | =( |
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| 10:17.01 | nkuttler | r3tex: apt-cache search pattern is hard? |
| 10:17.07 | bowyakka | r3tex, i aint getting into that war ..... |
| 10:17.16 | antgel | bowyakka: hope you have familiarised yourself with debian releases |
| 10:17.19 | r3tex | nkuttler: yea, how do i find ati drivers there? i don't +P |
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| 10:17.28 | nkuttler | r3tex: /msg dpkg faq |
| 10:17.33 | nkuttler | r3tex: /msg dpkg ati even |
| 10:18.12 | r3tex | great i didn't know debian had an official irc channel bot to replace apt-cache |
| 10:18.35 | bowyakka | antgel, no whats the coup on this, i assume the stable branch is currently sarge and then that has two other branches being untested and unstable of which untested rolls into the next realse ? |
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| 10:18.51 | spb_nick | antgel: ok, i've looked it up in the dictionary, but couldn't catch it fully, anyway. sorry. May be some time later:) Thanks for helping :) |
| 10:18.57 | antgel | !tell bowyakka about releases |
| 10:19.12 | bowyakka | ok well all apt-get update did was update the pacakge list no what ? |
| 10:19.16 | bowyakka | *now sorry |
| 10:19.49 | dondelelcaro | bowyakka: apt-get upgrade. |
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| 10:20.09 | antgel | bowyakka: please go and read the releases page before you do anything like this |
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| 10:20.34 | smartbhai | how do i know if a channel is already registered |
| 10:20.44 | dondelelcaro | smartbhai: /msg chanserv help |
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| 10:21.04 | dondelelcaro | smartbhai: you're looking for info. And these questions are all answered on freenode.net's webpage. |
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| 10:23.57 | spb_nick | antgel: Ah, I got it:) Well, It's open source, and it's free still, so, yes - "champagne taste, beer pocket", but this champagne is worth less than beer (in money, I mean, not in usefullness, greatness, etc.), and we could afford it :) |
| 10:24.27 | antgel | spb_nick: i meant more in terms of being limited in terms of your disks etc |
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| 10:25.01 | spb_nick | antgel: Ok :) I got it, thanks :) |
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| 10:26.33 | spb_nick | antgel: Anyway, there is a reason for mkinitrd/yaird bugreport. |
| 10:26.40 | jue | may have a deb server to download oo2 |
| 10:26.43 | jue | please |
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| 10:27.00 | spb_nick | antgel: Oh, better call it "feature request" |
| 10:27.15 | antgel | spb_nick: *nod* |
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| 10:27.21 | dondelelcaro | jue: it's only in experimental. If you have to ask about that, you're probably better off waiting for it to hit the more mainstream archives. |
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| 10:28.31 | jue | testing isn t a pb |
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| 10:28.48 | antgel | jue: please speak english |
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| 10:29.54 | seb__ | I have problems booting my new 2.6.x-kernel in Debian. I get this error message: VFS: Cannot open root device "hde1" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - Not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 10:29.54 | pablob | what's sudoedit for? |
| 10:30.04 | seb__ | Anybody has an idea? |
| 10:30.18 | pablob | seb__: is it SATA? |
| 10:30.27 | jue | sorryi m french i do what i can |
| 10:30.33 | antgel | seb__: did you build this kernel yourself |
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| 10:30.40 | antgel | !tell jue about fr |
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| 10:30.53 | seb__ | antgel: yes, I did... |
| 10:31.01 | antgel | seb__: did you need to? |
| 10:31.17 | seb__ | antgel: I run grsecurity patches on all my boxes, that's why |
| 10:31.23 | pablob | seb__: maybe if the drive now uses the libata driver, it has changed from hde to sd?. It happened to me |
| 10:31.24 | antgel | seb__: aha |
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| 10:31.56 | antgel | seb__: just asking. lot of people come here and don't need to compile |
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| 10:32.57 | seb__ | well ... problem is I'm remote currently, with the customer on phone |
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| 10:33.08 | seb__ | would 2.6.x cause them to change name from hd to sd? |
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| 10:33.17 | liable | hde1? (0,0)? |
| 10:33.27 | seb__ | yeah hd(0,0) |
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| 10:33.46 | seb__ | it's an ATA |
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| 10:34.09 | maka | Hi there. After some time of having mounted a ext3 partition it just turns Read-Only.Why does this happen?--I leave some anime downloading and when I come back I find that nothing has gone right. Nothing has been written to that partition. |
| 10:34.33 | blackhole | @find c language |
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| 10:34.35 | Kempston_ | how do i create devices above hdh ? (hdj, hdi, etc) |
| 10:34.38 | seb__ | maybe I missed something in the kernel config? My friend had the same problem (same error message), and his problem was he didn't enable JFS-support in the kernel, and that fixed the issue. |
| 10:34.40 | liable | the 'e' was what i was wandering about. |
| 10:34.58 | seb__ | liable? |
| 10:35.03 | liable | hde |
| 10:35.08 | antgel | seb__: is this a move from 2.4 to 2.6? |
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| 10:35.14 | seb__ | antgel: yep |
| 10:35.28 | antgel | seb__: what pablob said? |
| 10:35.47 | r3tex | seb__: are you sitting in 2.4 now? |
| 10:36.12 | seb__ | liable: yeah, it's kinda strange. The computer has an IDE controller card and the disks on the card get hda and hdb, and then the disks mounted directly to the motherboard gets the latter letters (e and f) |
| 10:36.14 | ravenbird_ | Debian Desc Search of 'c language' (2): groovy ;; groovy-doc. |
| 10:36.22 | jm_ | Kempston_: mknod, MAKEDEV |
| 10:36.26 | seb__ | antgel: can you paste again? I can't scroll here... :/ |
| 10:36.40 | r3tex | seb__: are you sitting in 2.4 right now? |
| 10:36.44 | seb__ | r3tex: yes |
| 10:37.04 | r3tex | seb__: it might be that when the 2.6 boots you get different harddrive notations =/ |
| 10:37.18 | r3tex | so when you write hde there 2.6 gets confused |
| 10:37.22 | antgel | < pablob> seb__: maybe if the drive now uses the libata driver, it has changed from hde to sd?. It happened to me |
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| 10:37.49 | r3tex | antgel: isn't sd only for scsi emulated or scsi drives? |
| 10:38.01 | Kempston_ | jm they requre parameters, ism't there automatic way ? |
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| 10:38.34 | r3tex | seb__: too bad you can't boot from a 2.6 CD and see if the harddrives are notated in the same manner |
| 10:39.13 | seb__ | any ideas? |
| 10:39.28 | sussudio_ | !any ideas |
| 10:39.28 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of condoms, a little vegemite, and a handful of sex-crazed hamsters. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 10:39.49 | pablob | r3tex: all sata controllers I tried appear as sd? |
| 10:40.06 | seb__ | pablob: but it's ata |
| 10:40.08 | maka | seb__: Did you configured your Bootloader? Did you tell the kernel where your rootdir is? |
| 10:40.09 | antgel | seb__: WHAT PABLO SAID? |
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| 10:40.20 | liable | seb__: as a guess, i would try (2,0) or even (4,0) |
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| 10:40.23 | r3tex | pablob: yeah but seb__ has ide drives |
| 10:40.38 | antgel | r3tex: ah, i thought he had sata |
| 10:40.54 | peterS | pabs3: if you got spam right after channel join, please report it on channel: "!ops some_nick onjoin spammer" |
| 10:40.58 | jm_ | Kempston_: of course they require parameters, and no, there's no automatic way if you're not using udev |
| 10:41.11 | seb__ | root (hd0,0) |
| 10:41.11 | seb__ | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11.12-grsec root=/dev/hde1 ro |
| 10:41.14 | pabs3 | peterS: thanks |
| 10:41.20 | r3tex | antgel: PABLO HAS SATA DRIVES? |
| 10:41.28 | seb__ | antgel: why? This kernel boots under hd0,0 |
| 10:41.31 | r3tex | antgel: sorry =P |
| 10:41.35 | r3tex | read after |
| 10:41.36 | r3tex | crappo |
| 10:41.36 | Kempston_ | ok thnx |
| 10:41.39 | pabs3 | !ops _victor_ onjoin spammer |
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| 10:41.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: _victor_ onjoin spammer |
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| 10:41.53 | seb__ | liable: why? This kernel boots under hd0,0, why wouldn't 2.6 also do so? |
| 10:41.57 | pabs3 | !ops {V}{e}[K]{i}{L} onjoin spammer |
| 10:41.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: {V}{e}[K]{i}{L} onjoin spammer |
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| 10:42.44 | Kempston_ | jm would you recommend to use udev ? |
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| 10:43.11 | dondelelcaro | pabs3: you can mention them both in one message... |
| 10:43.20 | r3tex | what are the standard patches on the "debianised" kernel? |
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| 10:43.27 | r3tex | say 2.6.12? |
| 10:43.29 | r3tex | ;P |
| 10:43.31 | liable | seb__: usually hda1 is 0,0 and so one.. i dunno why hde1 is 0,0 on that box, sounds a bit strange. |
| 10:43.33 | pabs3 | dondelelcaro: oops, ok |
| 10:43.43 | dondelelcaro | r3tex: those in linux-patche-debian-2.6.12 |
| 10:43.44 | peterS | r3tex: you can read /usr/share/doc/kernel-image-2.6.12-1-k7/changelog.Debian.gz or equivalent |
| 10:43.49 | X4 | Added lamer *!*@gentoo/user/doc-007 |
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| 10:44.08 | peterS | I mean .../linux-image-2.6.12-1-*/... |
| 10:44.19 | r3tex | peterS: thanx =) |
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| 10:44.38 | maka | Hi there. After some time of having mounted a ext3 partition it just turns Read-Only.Why does this happen?--I leave some anime downloading and when I come back I find that nothing has gone right. Nothing has been written to that partition. |
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| 10:45.41 | pablob | liable: it may be the BIOS option 'OnBoard ATA first?' |
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| 10:46.12 | jm_ | Kempston_: no |
| 10:46.25 | dondelelcaro | maka: you've got errors=remount-ro set, and there were errors. |
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| 10:46.54 | dondelelcaro | maka: check dmesg|less; to see what they were. |
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| 10:47.47 | EdLin | maka: if your hard drive is experiencing errors and it's IDE, it's time to save up to buy a new hard drive - something's seriously wrong. |
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| 10:47.49 | Kempston_ | jm can you please say way ? maybe devfs then ? |
| 10:47.54 | RichiH_ | jo |
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| 10:47.58 | doc|work | ,leave |
| 10:47.58 | RichiH_ | that was a fat kline |
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| 10:48.10 | RichiH_ | n=atfytoha@62.162.213.57 <- those one |
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| 10:48.46 | jm_ | Kempston_: because it's one more thing that gets in the way and because I am used to static dev, don't use devfs, it's unmaintained and apparnetly broken |
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| 10:49.06 | pablob | Kempston_: devfs is going to be removed from the kernel in 2.6.14 |
| 10:49.06 | X4 | Lamer for *!*@gentoo/user/doc-007 expired |
| 10:49.11 | Gandalf_the_grey | ,leave |
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| 10:49.40 | doc|work | heh |
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| 10:49.48 | doc|work | that's his bot |
| 10:49.57 | doc|work | I banned him from gentoo |
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| 10:49.59 | Kempston_ | "one more thing that gets in the way" can you please help me to translate that ? |
| 10:50.01 | dondelelcaro | right... but... to ban or not to ban... |
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| 10:50.45 | peterS | Kempston_: his point is that with a static /dev directory, he is in control of it. with devfs and udev, he has to control it somewhat indirectly, and it's hard to know whether to trust the automated processes that maintain /dev in those cases |
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| 10:52.44 | Scimmione | hi all |
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| 10:52.59 | Scimmione | may i ask you a question? |
| 10:53.07 | peterS | Scimmione: yes |
| 10:53.09 | antgel | Scimmione: was that it? |
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| 10:53.32 | Scimmione | problem with tv out |
| 10:53.46 | Scimmione | i see in black and white |
| 10:53.52 | Kempston_ | peterS thank you very much |
| 10:53.58 | Scimmione | i have geforce 4 |
| 10:54.23 | Scimmione | do u want me to post my XF86config-4? |
| 10:54.50 | jm_ | that's probably a matter of selecting VHS vs SVHS |
| 10:55.00 | Scimmione | # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X Window System server configuration file) |
| 10:55.00 | Scimmione | # |
| 10:55.00 | Scimmione | # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using |
| 10:55.00 | Scimmione | # values from the debconf database. |
| 10:55.01 | Scimmione | # |
| 10:55.11 | doc|work | hrh |
| 10:55.13 | doc|work | *heh |
| 10:55.24 | antgel | at least he posted the good bit |
| 10:55.28 | peterS | and let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls |
| 10:55.29 | doc|work | :) |
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| 10:55.58 | peterS | next time you try to paste a 150-line file, you too will go away |
| 10:56.07 | doc|work | one way or the other ;) |
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| 10:56.55 | dondelelcaro | Scimmione: see /topic, and don't paste here. |
| 10:57.01 | Scimmione | sorry |
| 10:57.01 | SlayerXP | what's the bettiong that the idiot tries that again? |
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| 10:57.29 | kurumin | oi |
| 10:57.35 | Scimmione | is TVOUT off topic? |
| 10:57.45 | liable | hah |
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| 10:57.47 | Scimmione | i have debian |
| 10:57.52 | doc|work | Scimmione: no, you pasted when you should have pastebinned |
| 10:57.56 | dondelelcaro | Scimmione: no, pasting here is. use the paster bot. |
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| 10:58.00 | dondelelcaro | !tell Scimmione -about paster |
| 10:58.10 | Scimmione | -about paster |
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| 10:58.48 | EdLin | !sing sunday |
| 10:58.48 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
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| 10:59.12 | Scimmione | ok, |
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| 10:59.33 | Scimmione | i have this BW trouble with my nvidia TVOUT signal. |
| 11:00.22 | Scimmione | i see colors during boot but when it comes to the session start it gets black and white |
| 11:00.50 | Scimmione | #flood |
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| 11:01.12 | asd | cheese burger |
| 11:01.18 | asd | why is #cheese-burger empty |
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| 11:01.31 | peterS | asd: this is #debian and it is far from empty |
| 11:01.55 | peterS | asd: it's for user support of the Debian operating system |
| 11:02.03 | EdLin | asd: most people from .il don't eat them? |
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| 11:02.21 | asd | no we prefer , chuarma or phalapel |
| 11:02.34 | peterS | EdLin: meat and dairy in the same sandwich? |
| 11:02.34 | hagarke | hi |
| 11:02.37 | petemc | Scimmione: the nvidia driver has options for specifying the output device and tv standard etc, have you configured those? |
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| 11:02.47 | antgel | not true, most of .il does |
| 11:02.48 | EdLin | peterS: right. |
| 11:02.49 | M23 | When I change font sizes using the gnome control pannel in KDE, it doesn't change the font size for GTK apps. Is there something else I should check? |
| 11:02.53 | asd | phalaphel and shuarma , shuarma is meat |
| 11:03.07 | hagarke | can anybody tell me where I can see why a package is still in unstable and not in eg. testing. I forgot where it is on the web |
| 11:03.11 | asd | in lafa or pita bread |
| 11:03.22 | peterS | hagarke: /msg dpkg why is packagename not in testing |
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| 11:03.44 | EdLin | shwarma is better than cheese burgers. :) |
| 11:04.01 | antgel | we need abrotman before we can discuss food |
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| 11:04.26 | peterS | antgel: but if abrotman were here he'd tell me to go to bed |
| 11:04.28 | asd | it's more filling more meat |
| 11:04.42 | hagarke | peters: Isn't it somewhere on the web too ? Without IRC ? |
| 11:04.49 | petemc | its nan bread with a meat filling, no? |
| 11:04.59 | peterS | !why is hagarke not in testing |
| 11:04.59 | dpkg | hagarke is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=hagarke |
| 11:05.01 | resiak | hagarke: /msg dpkg why is foo not in testing, remember the URL he gives you. |
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| 11:05.34 | locloc | Hello @all! I've got a Debian server (version 3.1) in a misced network (Windows and linux) and want to send an email via terminal from the Debian server. Dns is available and running on another server. I tried |
| 11:05.35 | antgel | peterS: not nan, nan is indian |
| 11:05.36 | locloc | mail -s test -v user@test.com |
| 11:05.38 | locloc | but the connection to the mail-server times out. Any idea? Or do I need to install a debian-mail-user somewhere? |
| 11:05.46 | asd | pita |
| 11:06.00 | petemc | locloc: ident perhaps |
| 11:06.00 | antgel | locloc: can you telnet to the mail server smtp port? |
| 11:06.07 | asd | or Lafa , very tasty |
| 11:06.10 | peterS | locloc: possibly your ISP is blocking outgoing port 25. mine does. |
| 11:06.20 | peterS | locloc: this is an anti-spam measure |
| 11:06.44 | peterS | locloc: is this home internet service or business-class service? |
| 11:06.56 | Scimmione | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:07.13 | hagarke | peters: tnx |
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| 11:07.36 | Scimmione | If anyone can help me or give suggestions on how to configure XF86config-4 to give color to my TV-OUT |
| 11:08.51 | beardy | Scimmione: Test with composite instead of s-video, or the other way around, or check your tv. |
| 11:09.11 | hagarke | I'm running Kubuntu livecd for the moment on a Mac Powerbook G4. I tried setting the keyboard to Macintosh, Macintosh old, Powerbook ps/2, ... Some keys still don't work. Does anybody know a solution for this ? I think this is Debian general and not (K)ubuntu only. |
| 11:09.20 | beardy | hagarke: #kubuntu |
| 11:09.34 | peterS | beardy: well, he *does* say he gets color output during boot, just not from X. so it's probably not composite vs. s-video, right? |
| 11:10.06 | beardy | peterS: Ok, I haven't read/followed what he has said. |
| 11:10.38 | beardy | peterS: IIRC, X has it's own (at least the nvidia driver) setting of composite or s-video. |
| 11:10.49 | hutgyrr | is it possible to get a dvd changer you can hook up to your server similiar to a cd changer for you car? |
| 11:11.01 | peterS | beardy: ok then, I'm sure you know better than I do. I don't use the non-free nvidia driver and I don't have a TV output |
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| 11:11.33 | beardy | peterS: I don't do that either at the moment, and it's been a while. |
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| 11:11.46 | peterS | hutgyrr: that's a question for google rather than for #debian. debian would probably support it without difficulty, since it would probably use the same ATAPI commands as a CD changer does |
| 11:12.02 | beardy | peterS: Did he have tv-out from the start, from when he boots? |
| 11:12.07 | hutgyrr | ok |
| 11:12.08 | peterS | beardy: apparently |
| 11:12.10 | Scimmione | yes |
| 11:12.39 | Scimmione | winshit display all the colors... |
| 11:12.54 | beardy | Scimmione: winshit? |
| 11:13.00 | locloc | antgel: can you give me the exact command to do that? thanx |
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| 11:13.16 | locloc | peterS: business |
| 11:13.43 | beardy | Scimmione: When you turn on your computer, with the power button, do you see the startup messages, and the "Press Del to enter BIOS" and so on? |
| 11:14.05 | beardy | Scimmione: On the TV |
| 11:14.11 | peterS | locloc: anyway, as someone else suggested, try this: 'host -t mx example.com' then 'telnet mailserver.example.com smtp' where mailserver.example.com is a MX entry for example.com |
| 11:14.32 | peterS | locloc: if outgoing port 25 is being blocked, the second command will just hang for awhile, and a couple minutes later it will say connection timed out |
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| 11:15.03 | hagarke | beardy: same problem exists on Debian |
| 11:15.06 | peterS | locloc: if your internet connectivity is unfiltered, the second command will print a banner line starting with "250 " |
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| 11:15.20 | peterS | locloc: I mean starting with 220 |
| 11:16.26 | TyreseJones | If I have about 20 debian workstations, and i want to run the same command on each of them, is there a way I can do that from a central console? |
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| 11:16.38 | hagarke | Is there any time set for the release of KDE 3.4 in testing ? |
| 11:16.56 | beardy | hagarke: Perhaps. But you should at least start asking in the channel of what you are running. |
| 11:17.02 | antgel | TyreseJones: clusterssh but i haven't tried it myself (yet) |
| 11:17.13 | hagarke | beardy: I did. No answer there. |
| 11:17.18 | peterS | hagarke: it'll be awhile, as you probably noticed by checking 'kdelibs' on that site |
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| 11:17.34 | bowyakka | sorry guys another quick question |
| 11:17.46 | bowyakka | how can i force a package to be removed ignoring deps |
| 11:17.58 | antgel | bowyakka: why would you want to do that? |
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| 11:18.19 | peterS | bowyakka: dpkg --remove --force-depends, but as antgel says, why? |
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| 11:18.24 | bowyakka | antgel, to remove esound-common, i dont belive that junit requires it |
| 11:18.30 | beardy | hagarke: /msg dpkg they don't know, but ok, perhaps someone knows here.. You could try #debian-ppc perhaps? |
| 11:18.54 | hagarke | PeterS: yes. I saw that .... |
| 11:18.55 | TyreseJones | clusterssh? |
| 11:18.58 | antgel | bowyakka: be careful. the package maintainers probably know more than you |
| 11:19.09 | Scimmione | ok |
| 11:19.13 | bowyakka | antgel, ok |
| 11:19.16 | Scimmione | THANK YOU TO BEARDY |
| 11:19.25 | hagarke | Beardy: Well, one of the problems with my keyboard is that I can't type the railroad-cross character ;-) |
| 11:19.26 | peterS | hagarke: your guess is as good as ours about when those dependencies will untangle themselves. lots of fun happening there. |
| 11:19.49 | beardy | hagarke: ####### use one :) |
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| 11:19.58 | locloc | peterS: I#m still waiting... still trying to connect...ok, unable to connect. Tmed out.. :( |
| 11:20.00 | locloc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:20.33 | peterS | locloc: you can ask your ISP to unblock it. sometimes they will do that for a business customer when they ask - but then they'll watch your usage patterns closely to make sure you aren't a spammer |
| 11:20.59 | peterS | locloc: alternatively, you can set up your MTA to send outgoing mail through a smarthost. this takes a bit of effort, but works very well for me. |
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| 11:21.15 | hagarke | Hi all, I have a problem with the keyboard on a Powerbook G4. The # is not typing the #. I use a PB with Belgian keyboard. How should I set my keyboard settings in KDE ? |
| 11:21.31 | HaNazir | how do i turn off xserver for one user and allow it for another? |
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| 11:22.18 | locloc | peterS: doesn't sound easy... do you have an instruction for me to do that? |
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| 11:22.37 | bwana147 | locloc: what is your internet connection ? is it DSL ? |
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| 11:23.09 | beardy | hagarke: Have you choosen the correct keyboard and variant? /msg dpkg drxx (now see what happens when asking here, the answer will probably not work..) |
| 11:23.21 | bwana147 | you want your MTA to send mail directly to the destinee's mail server ? |
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| 11:23.26 | resiak | beardy: Particularly since hagarke is using Kubuntu :) |
| 11:23.38 | beardy | resiak: I know, that's what I meant. |
| 11:23.41 | hagarke | beardy: I chose Azerty and Macintosh. What variant should I use ? |
| 11:23.44 | resiak | beardy: Ah, yeah. |
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| 11:24.20 | peterS | locloc: just to make sure: try 'telnet bugs.debian.org smtp' - that is a mail server that should always succeed |
| 11:24.22 | locloc | bwana147: why? Don't know, I'm new at this concern... |
| 11:24.44 | hagarke | beardy: there's no keyboard variant to specify, I just took a look |
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| 11:24.50 | beardy | hagarke: You proably need to tell it that it's a belgian layout too. Somewhere. |
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| 11:25.05 | hagarke | beardy: I did. It's Belgian, Macintosh |
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| 11:25.38 | beardy | hagarke: Can you type all the characters you want in the virtual consoles? |
| 11:25.50 | Yoe | hagarke: on a 2.6-running Mac? |
| 11:25.53 | bwana147 | locloc: usually, for a home machine, your local MTA should send all outgoing traffic to the smart host provided by your ISP. |
| 11:26.08 | hagarke | beardy: no |
| 11:26.31 | hagarke | yoe: Yes, Kubuntu Breezy Preview CD for the moment. But same problem with Debian |
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| 11:26.38 | Yoe | hagarke: if so, then please use the 'french' layout, that'll resemble more what's printed on your keyboard |
| 11:26.45 | peterS | bwana147: well, he said it's a business-class Internet connection |
| 11:27.29 | bwana147 | peterS: I must have not read my backlog correctly. sorry |
| 11:27.59 | hagarke | Yoe: indeed. That solves it :-) |
| 11:28.14 | Yoe | thought so :) |
| 11:28.26 | beardy | But if there is a belgian layout to choose, how come it's not working? |
| 11:28.37 | hagarke | All keys seem to work now with French |
| 11:28.49 | Yoe | beardy: because apple doesn't have Belgian keyboards |
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| 11:29.05 | beardy | They could at least copy the french one to the belgian one then.. to start with. |
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| 11:29.13 | Yoe | beardy: Belgian and French PC keyboards are both AZERTY, but not the same |
| 11:29.29 | Yoe | beardy: and on 2.6, everything uses an input layer that maps it as if they were PC keyboards |
| 11:29.38 | hagarke | Beardy: you can't. They are 90% the same but some keys are not |
| 11:29.47 | beardy | Yoe: Ok. |
| 11:29.55 | Yoe | so the Belgian keyboard layout still needs to exist (for PC), but it makes no sense on Macs |
| 11:30.03 | xcyborg | is there a way to hide details such as "(Postfix, from userid 1000)" when sending mail locally ? |
| 11:30.07 | beardy | hagarke: Well, at least it works now then? :) |
| 11:30.17 | peterS | locloc: anyway ... I do not know how to tell exim4 to send mail through a smarthost. I set up postfix to do so - that was a bit annoying but I can probably write up what I did |
| 11:30.24 | hagarke | Yoe and beardy: thnx, it indeed works now. I had never thought of it |
| 11:30.32 | bobesponja | what happened to dpkg bot? |
| 11:31.00 | Yoe | locloc: setting up exim4 to use a smarthost involves modifying your SMTP router to use the 'manualroute' driver instead of the 'dnslookup' one, |
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| 11:32.05 | locloc | peterS: doesn't work with telnet bugs.debian.org smtp |
| 11:32.06 | locloc | What does that mean? |
| 11:32.09 | Yoe | locloc: and to give it a 'route_list' parameter that looks like '* <name of your smarthost' |
| 11:32.20 | hagarke | Now, next question: I use distrowatch.com to check the availability of some of the latest packages. They have a list of the major packages. Is there a site out there that has this for a lot more packages ? I would like to see whether I will take Ubuntu to run on a desktop or Debian testing. For the server, I see most packages are in testing, so there I will take Debian |
| 11:32.23 | peterS | locloc: your ISP is blocking attempts to send mail directly, in case you are a spammer. |
| 11:32.24 | liable | bobesponja: you can /msg ravenbird_ or apt |
| 11:32.48 | peterS | locloc: listen to Yoe, he is telling you how to set up exim4 (the mail server debian normally comes with) to relay mail through a smart host |
| 11:33.00 | Yoe | peterS: s/is telling/just told/ |
| 11:33.23 | deeLer | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.26 | peterS | locloc: your ISP tech support can tell you what smart host to use. if it requires authentication, you can probably use the same username/password as your connection setup uses |
| 11:33.37 | antgel | hagarke: if you're new to debian, testing may not be for you |
| 11:33.45 | Yoe | except that I made a typo -- a working route_list would be "route_list = * smarthost.domain.com", provided smarthost.domain.com exists |
| 11:33.47 | beardy | hagarke: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 11:33.58 | hagarke | antgel: why not ? |
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| 11:34.27 | Yoe | locloc: (see my last line, in case you missed it -- should add more nicks ;-) |
| 11:34.31 | antgel | hagarke: have you read the debian documentation, especially relating to releases? |
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| 11:34.37 | hagarke | beardy: I want to check the packages in the distribution against the latest stable mentionned by the developers |
| 11:34.40 | hagarke | antgel: yes |
| 11:34.44 | antgel | deeLer: how about telling us what you did? |
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| 11:35.43 | beardy | hagarke: That's some 15-17k packages to check.. I don't understand what you mean really.. |
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| 11:35.51 | locloc | peterS and Yoe: thank you so much for your support. |
| 11:35.53 | locloc | try to use yoe's suggestion now |
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| 11:36.10 | SuperNinjaKitty | i am running etch how often should i upgrade? and good morning |
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| 11:36.20 | deeLer | angtel installed the sarge amd64 netisntall |
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| 11:36.41 | deeLer | installation went fine |
| 11:36.42 | hagarke | beardy: take a look at eg. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian |
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| 11:36.48 | deeLer | booting gives this error |
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| 11:36.59 | hagarke | You will see there, the current version of the package, and the package in the distribution |
| 11:37.00 | deeLer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:37.34 | KimHansen | How do I prevent my server from supporting ipv6 ? Is there a config-file I can use? |
| 11:37.46 | Yoe | KimHansen: make sure the ipv6 module is not loaded |
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| 11:38.05 | KimHansen | Yoe: But it is autoloaded |
| 11:38.23 | hagarke | You see it beardy ? |
| 11:38.23 | Yoe | KimHansen: one way to do that would be to remove it from file, another is to add a line like "alias net-pf-6 null" to /etc/modules, or something |
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| 11:38.34 | KimHansen | I could delete it, but then I would have to remember to do that after the next kernelupgrade |
| 11:38.37 | Yoe | KimHansen: uh, /etc/modutils |
| 11:38.50 | Yoe | though I'm not entirely sure about the exact alias name |
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| 11:39.41 | Yoe | if you remove the module, the kernel will complain about not being able to load a certain module (indeed, net-pf-something). That's the one you'll need to alias to null, then. |
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| 11:40.00 | KimHansen | I use 2.6, shouldn't it be changed in /etc/modprobe.d/ instead? |
| 11:40.11 | Yoe | yeah, sure. I said "or something", for a reason ;-) |
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| 11:40.47 | KimHansen | ok, and I think it should be net-pf-10 also :) |
| 11:40.59 | Yoe | right, possibly. Like I said, I wasn't too sure. |
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| 11:41.12 | antgel | hagarke: deeLer #debian-amd64 |
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| 11:42.44 | antgel | doh |
| 11:42.59 | antgel | deeLer: #debian-amd64 |
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| 11:44.34 | jonathan_ | hello - can anyone help me with an install issue ? |
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| 11:46.00 | liable | just ask your question.. |
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| 11:46.32 | cyteen | This ones got me puzzled, I get "/usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/perl: undefined symbol: PL_use_safe_putenv" whenever I try to install a package. I thought it might be a broken perl but how do you install a new perl when perl is broken? |
| 11:46.52 | Eclipser | uhm |
| 11:46.56 | Eclipser | how do I remove a user?-p |
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| 11:47.09 | liable | deluser |
| 11:47.14 | Eclipser | ah |
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| 11:47.35 | cyteen | or userdel |
| 11:47.36 | beardy | Eclipser: deluser(8) read the manual. |
| 11:47.42 | Eclipser | yes I'm reading it :p |
| 11:48.09 | hagarke | does anybody know why Ubuntu is not releasing the KDE 3.4 packages within Debian ? They seem to have solved the dependency problems with KDE Libs ? |
| 11:48.20 | jonathan_ | OK, thanks - I am trying a 3.1/stable install, but I have hit a number of problems. The machine is an HP ProLiant ML110 server, with SATA disks; it came with one but I have added a second so as to do RAID. The 2.6 kernel won't get past the Detect CD-ROM stage ... |
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| 11:48.56 | SuperNinjaKitty | hagarke because KDE isnt ready for all architectures yet |
| 11:49.10 | dspstv | re, could anyone here help me define the word "universal" in the context of: Universal Software...what will that mean? yea,, kindda OT, but phps someone has a fast definition |
| 11:49.26 | liable | !info kde-base |
| 11:49.37 | liable | @info kde-base |
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| 11:50.45 | liable | @info kde-core |
| 11:50.52 | Dewi | dspstv: never heard of it |
| 11:50.56 | liable | meh.. |
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| 11:51.12 | beardy | dspstv: dict universal |
| 11:51.20 | petemc | dspstv: the dictionary definition doesnt help? |
| 11:51.28 | dspstv | Dewi, yea wikipedia doesnt have an entry nither |
| 11:51.41 | Dewi | dspstv: maybe it's software that is universal |
| 11:51.45 | jonathan_ | ... so I am using the 2.4 kernel on the CD set. It does the first stage of the install but I'm completely stuck on the second stage. Either atp'ing from the CDset or HTTP from a mirror, it chokes on uw-imapd - it either can't or won't install it and it doesn't matter how may times I go round. |
| 11:51.45 | dspstv | ) |
| 11:51.52 | resiak | hagarke: For instance: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=akregator # see? |
| 11:52.32 | liable | kde 3.4 is in sid.. |
| 11:52.35 | dspstv | i tend to understand it like multiplatform and controlable by commercial and GPL software |
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| 11:53.00 | Dewi | dspstv: who uses this terminology? |
| 11:53.22 | dspstv | Dewi, is a question from a teacher |
| 11:53.33 | Dewi | !homework |
| 11:53.37 | dspstv | hehe |
| 11:53.38 | dspstv | ) |
| 11:53.44 | beardy | dspstv: "universal software" should mean a piece of software that works everywhere, and can do anything, with anything, to anything |
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| 11:53.59 | beardy | @homework |
| 11:54.00 | ravenbird_ | Given at strip joint, and the time for strip joint is during a recession. |
| 11:54.12 | jonathan_ | It says: imap3 isn't supported locally, then gets a hostname lookup error and dpkg drops out. What does it mean and what can I do ? |
| 11:54.16 | beardy | ~homework |
| 11:54.17 | apt | methinks homework is something really really boring :) |
| 11:54.25 | dspstv | beardy, will you call SQL "universal software" |
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| 11:54.36 | dspstv | oke i go out |
| 11:54.42 | dspstv | no stressss |
| 11:55.04 | beardy | dspstv: With the definition I gave you above (which I just made up now, but something like that perhaps) does not exist, and never will. |
| 11:55.05 | resiak | liable: Not on all archs, AIUI. |
| 11:55.06 | Dewi | dspstv: I agree with beardy. Read the textbook and find out its answer; that's what your teacher wants. I don't think that term is in use in the real world. |
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| 11:55.51 | dspstv | kool |
| 11:56.11 | beardy | dspstv: Can your SQL cook me dinner now, and clean the plate afterwards, using cold water? |
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| 11:56.36 | dspstv | sure, give ssh access |
| 11:57.06 | beardy | dspstv: And then answer a sql query? If it can do that, and whatever else, I would call it universal. |
| 11:57.23 | coffeepak | sure, SQL ~= a lot of money |
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| 11:57.57 | Dewi | coffeepak: I'm pretty sure none of the major SQL vendors include meal cooking |
| 11:58.09 | Dewi | this is a chance for the open source sector to get ahead |
| 11:58.12 | dspstv | bahh, universal will be when other life forms, use it also..be it SQL or LOGO |
| 11:58.51 | beardy | If it existed, there wouldn't be anything else. That's why different things exist, if something were universal, only it would exist. |
| 11:59.09 | beardy | dspstv: I'm talking larger than some program or language now. |
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| 11:59.24 | Dewi | I can't even think of a non-trivial piece of software that has been ported to every machine I've used in the last 15 minutes, let alone doing anything else. |
| 11:59.36 | ircops | good morning |
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| 12:01.02 | Dewi | beardy: the operating system that runs the laws of physics, that might qualify |
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| 12:01.35 | Dewi | as in |
| 12:01.43 | KimHansen | Yoe: Thanks for hints, I will reboot now and see if this works |
| 12:01.44 | Dewi | bash$ entropy |
| 12:01.46 | Dewi | Please wait... |
| 12:02.14 | antgel | SELECT food FROM fridge WHERE owner LIKE 'Beardy'; |
| 12:02.15 | dspstv | beardy i think u understand universal as totalitarian |
| 12:02.21 | antgel | DROP egg; |
| 12:02.25 | Dewi | Now that's universal software. |
| 12:02.31 | Dewi | Although it looks a lot like gentoo. |
| 12:02.36 | antgel | !tell dspstv about u |
| 12:03.00 | beardy | Dewi: Which physics? "physics" might be something entirely different in another galaxy far away, or another dimension, in a paralell universe that perhaps exists in my computers left speaker. |
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| 12:03.17 | Dewi | dspstv: totalitarianism is a form of government. |
| 12:03.33 | Dewi | beardy: still part of physics |
| 12:03.35 | beardy | But now I'll have something to eat, because the universal "something" hasn't served me yet.. |
| 12:03.38 | Dewi | beardy: maybe physics we haven't written down yet |
| 12:03.52 | petemc | this conversation is going nowhere.. |
| 12:03.52 | dspstv | and this is exactly the kind of power that he is giving to the word universal |
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| 12:04.16 | beardy | petemc: Is it meant to be? |
| 12:04.17 | Dewi | dspstv: right. |
| 12:04.26 | dspstv | yea is over, thanks for the feedback ) |
| 12:04.29 | Dewi | petemc: sure it is. Heat-death of the universe. |
| 12:04.45 | petemc | you should all meditate on inevitable death |
| 12:04.46 | Dewi | dspstv: you're messing up my parser with all those closing brackets |
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| 12:05.17 | roo9 | hi, I have a system that has 1.5GB ram, the ram is recognised properly by the BIOS but after booting linux only shows 1.0GB ram in the system, any ideas how to fix that? |
| 12:05.22 | beardy | petemc: doesn't sound that positive.. |
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| 12:05.40 | petemc | beardy: depends on your perspective on death |
| 12:05.50 | beardy | petemc: Ah, yeah. |
| 12:06.01 | Dewi | beardy: I'm going to a better place. |
| 12:06.11 | beardy | Dewi: Bye then. :) |
| 12:06.13 | Dewi | /dev/null |
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| 12:06.32 | Dewi | beardy: oh, not now. Now I'm going back to my code window to write some godawful ASP. |
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| 12:07.20 | TyreseJones | how do i get the mac address of a machine on my localnetwork - without actually having to log into that machine - i just tried nmap, but for some reason it didn't return the mac address, which i was pretty sure it did |
| 12:07.26 | jc__ | Good Morning |
| 12:07.37 | key2 | anyone has an idea of how to mount a cramfs big endian with ??? |
| 12:07.52 | jc__ | Please, someone uses shell restrict under chroot ? |
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| 12:08.04 | jonathan_ | jc__: and the top of the morning to you too |
| 12:08.14 | peterS | key2: indirectly: convert it to little-endian with 'cramfsswap', which is in unstable |
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| 12:08.41 | peterS | key2: ahh, it's in stable as well |
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| 12:08.52 | Dewi | TyreseJones: arp <hostname> |
| 12:08.55 | felipefg | TyreseJones, you can try using tcpdump to monitor the trafic that the machine gives to you, but you'll need root on your current machine.. |
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| 12:10.09 | jonathan_ | What does the package uw-imap do ? |
| 12:10.27 | petemc | jonathan_: the secret is in the name |
| 12:10.50 | Dewi | petemc: underworld internet message access protocol? |
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| 12:11.02 | petemc | univ washington, i believe |
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| 12:11.22 | petemc | and its missing a d |
| 12:11.22 | jonathan_ | petemc: is it a 'must-have' for an install ? |
| 12:11.29 | petemc | jonathan_: certainly not |
| 12:11.30 | Dewi | jonathan_: doesn't sound like it |
| 12:11.34 | felipefg | has someone tried to build the latest GARNOME in debian stable already? Mine is dying when compiling glib.. |
| 12:11.41 | Yoe | jonathan_: it's a must-no-have for an install, actually |
| 12:11.42 | Dewi | jonathan_: maybe you chose the "mail server" task during install |
| 12:12.09 | jonathan_ | Dewi: yes, you're right, I did. Was that a mistake ? |
| 12:12.14 | Dewi | jonathan_: sounds like it was |
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| 12:12.26 | Dewi | jonathan_: you can always set your mail server up how you'd like later if you're having difficulty |
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| 12:12.44 | Dewi | jonathan_: or even run tasksel again later when you're in a better position to fix the problem |
| 12:12.46 | nandan | where do i get java to install in sarge? |
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| 12:12.54 | jonathan_ | Dewi: so can I repeat that package selection phase somehow ? |
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| 12:13.02 | nandan | like apt-get install " "? |
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| 12:13.11 | Gijs` | jonathan_: tasksel |
| 12:13.15 | TyreseJones | Dewi- felipefg Thanks for the tips, it's working! |
| 12:13.33 | Dewi | nandan: java-package will let you turn the sun download into a .deb |
| 12:13.47 | jonathan_ | Gijs`: but I'm still in installation-phase-2 ... |
| 12:13.51 | antgel | nandan: that's easy. you read the topic |
| 12:13.59 | beardy | jonathan_: aptitude |
| 12:14.22 | Gijs` | The bots got back around 2:30. |
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| 12:14.29 | Gijs` | But immediately got G-lined. |
| 12:14.38 | Dewi | what?! no bots?! |
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| 12:14.38 | jonathan_ | beardy: how do I get to that when the installation isn't complete yet ? |
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| 12:14.50 | nandan | Dewi, i tried apt-get install java-package got error not found package |
| 12:14.59 | Gijs` | errr |
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| 12:15.04 | Gijs` | Wrong channel. |
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| 12:15.14 | Dewi | jonathan_: you go back to it when it is complete, of course |
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| 12:15.57 | jonathan_ | Dewi: but it won't complete without uw-impad - it keeps coming up with the red failure screen and won't let me go on |
| 12:15.57 | Dewi | jonathan_: oh, how to resume your broken install? I don't know. I always just start over. |
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| 12:16.37 | Dewi | other people here probably feel differently |
| 12:16.52 | nandan | Dewi, i tried apt-get install java-package got error not found package |
| 12:17.12 | Dewi | nandan: debian version? |
| 12:17.14 | jvw | nandan: add contrib to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:17.17 | Dewi | was it sarge? |
| 12:17.31 | Dewi | aah yeah, it's in contrib |
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| 12:17.55 | nandan | Dewi, debian sarge |
| 12:18.13 | mixmatch | Dewi: same as stable |
| 12:18.26 | Dewi | mixmatch: I know. |
| 12:19.29 | jonathan_ | Dewi: i backstepped to selecting the APT sources and reran without selecting any tasks, but it still insists that I must have uw-imapd |
| 12:19.31 | mixmatch | Dewi: I'm dislexic |
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| 12:20.27 | Dewi | jonathan_: you probably need to deselect the packages. |
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| 12:20.49 | Dewi | jonathan_: or just start over; which might be better than leaving broken stuff lying around on your nice new install |
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| 12:21.22 | Dewi | Yoe: "it's a must-no-have for an install" ? |
| 12:21.28 | jonathan_ | Dewi: OK - I'll try that - I can just reboot at this stage, can't I and it will restart Stage 2 ? |
| 12:21.29 | lestest | hi there ... How do I tell syslog to store dhcpd messages in a separate file? |
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| 12:21.40 | Yoe | Dewi: uw-imap? absolutely, you don't want that |
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| 12:21.56 | Dewi | Yoe: is there a better imap? |
| 12:22.03 | Yoe | Dewi: dovecot, or courier |
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| 12:22.20 | Dewi | jonathan_: well, your disk will still have broken files on it |
| 12:22.21 | Yoe | preferably dovecot, actually. |
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| 12:22.40 | Dewi | jonathan_: but it might resume okay. I meant the whole process. |
| 12:22.43 | KimHansen | Is there anything good to say about uw-imap ? |
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| 12:22.56 | Dewi | KimHansen: you hate it too? |
| 12:23.00 | casualite | I could need some help with building a deb here. I want one special file to be dropped in a given folder inside the deb... Anyone? |
| 12:23.24 | KimHansen | I hate that I have to recompile it to change where it gets the mail on the server |
| 12:23.53 | Dewi | KimHansen: pity it's in the "mail server" task and is breaking people's installs then... |
| 12:24.27 | jonathan_ | Dewi: OK, I'll start again. BTW, do 2.6 kernels have a problem with SATA disks and an IDE/ATAPI CR-ROM ? |
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| 12:24.46 | Dewi | jonathan_: I installed 2.6 with SATA HD and an IDE CD-ROM |
| 12:24.48 | sep | jonathan_, running that without any issues. |
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| 12:24.52 | Dewi | jonathan_: and 2.4 didn't even work |
| 12:24.52 | asuffield_ | KimHansen: no, it's shit. never use uw. use courier, cyrus, or dovewhatsit |
| 12:24.54 | Dewi | jonathan_: so yes :) |
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| 12:25.24 | jonathan_ | Dewi: that's *really* strange - this h/w fails on 2.6 but does run 2.4 |
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| 12:25.41 | Dewi | jonathan_: these guys all think uw-imap is terrible. You might want to avoid that mail server task and choose more fine-grained packages yourself using apt |
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| 12:26.02 | nandan | Dewi, i tried apt-get install java-package got error not found package |
| 12:26.05 | Yoe | asuffield_: cyrus is shit, too |
| 12:26.15 | Dewi | nandan: yes, you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:26.20 | Yoe | asuffield_: wouldn't be the first time I heard people who're using cyrus talking about lost mail |
| 12:26.27 | Yoe | asuffield_: even uw gets *that* right |
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| 12:26.31 | Dewi | nandan: and add some contrib sources. This usually means adding "contrib" after where it says "main" |
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| 12:26.50 | asuffield_ | maybe, but with uw, *everybody* gets your mail. and your server |
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| 12:27.11 | Yoe | asuffield_: I didn't deny that uw is shit, I only said that cyrus is as well ;-) |
| 12:27.19 | asuffield_ | personally I use courier |
| 12:27.38 | Dewi | nandan: the sources list on this page has main, contrib, and non-free. http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11185-0.html?forumID=90&threadID=179944&start=0 |
| 12:27.48 | Yoe | asuffield_: me too |
| 12:28.05 | Yoe | asuffield_: but I've been hearing many good things about dovecot, been wanting to try it out for a while |
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| 12:28.29 | Dewi | nandan: if you add the word "contrib" in the right spot(s), then do apt-get update, then you can get your java-package |
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| 12:28.50 | asuffield_ | I've never been able to think of a good reason to bother. courier does everything I could possibly want from an imap server, namely, serving imap |
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| 12:29.04 | asuffield_ | it's not like there's a lot of scope for improvement here |
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| 12:29.58 | chris_ | did anyone get plantronics headset working in debian? |
| 12:30.03 | chris_ | i'm confused |
| 12:30.03 | chris_ | :/ |
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| 12:30.35 | Dewi | chris_: plug it in? what's the problem? |
| 12:30.43 | chris_ | lol its plugged in |
| 12:30.48 | chris_ | alsa picks it up |
| 12:30.51 | Anthro | !lol |
| 12:30.54 | chris_ | the plantronics usb headset |
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| 12:31.07 | chris_ | but i cant get it working in xmms |
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| 12:31.24 | Anthro | Argh! Where's dpkg, our favorite blootbot? |
| 12:31.45 | chris_ | debian is too sexy |
| 12:31.58 | chris_ | i just want my usb headset to work :) |
| 12:32.08 | antgel | dpkg: where are you |
| 12:32.22 | nandan | Dewi, hey apt-get is working now :-) thnx |
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| 12:32.51 | Yoe | chris_: define "it doesn't work"? |
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| 12:33.10 | Yoe | chris_: do your apps complain about not finding hardware, or do you just not hear anything? |
| 12:33.15 | Dewi | I'm pretty sure the debian project is doomed with dpkg |
| 12:33.19 | chris_ | not hear anything ^^ |
| 12:33.24 | Dewi | he's the only sane robot in this crazy world |
| 12:33.36 | chris_ | its something to do with xmms's configuration |
| 12:33.46 | Dewi | chris_: if you have several audio devices, is it playing to the wrong one? |
| 12:33.49 | Yoe | chris_: have you ran alsamixer and opened up the sound levels? (by default, they're completely down) |
| 12:34.17 | chris_ | stupid question |
| 12:34.23 | chris_ | how do i run alsamixer |
| 12:34.38 | Yoe | chris_: you open up a terminal and type "alsamixer", followed by <enter> |
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| 12:34.54 | chris_ | lol no dice |
| 12:35.32 | nandan | Dewi, well whts next :-) it got installed |
| 12:35.35 | Rasko|nikov | hi ppl |
| 12:35.41 | Rasko|nikov | i've got a problem with apt-get |
| 12:35.43 | chris_ | could it be that alsa is f'ed up |
| 12:35.46 | Dewi | nandan: man java-package |
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| 12:35.55 | dawg | chris_, might want to install alsa-utils then |
| 12:35.56 | Dewi | chris_: apt-get install gnome-alsamixer? |
| 12:35.59 | Yoe | then you may need to install it first; the package is alsa-utils |
| 12:36.03 | Dewi | chris_: do what dawg said |
| 12:36.05 | Yoe | or that |
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| 12:36.13 | Rasko|nikov | the first time per boot i run apt-get update i get errors like this: |
| 12:36.16 | Rasko|nikov | Failed to fetch http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz Bad header lin |
| 12:36.21 | Rasko|nikov | i get it with all servers |
| 12:36.37 | chris_ | <3 |
| 12:36.49 | Rasko|nikov | the next time i run it it works ok |
| 12:36.54 | Rasko|nikov | does anybody know why? |
| 12:37.00 | Yoe | Rasko|nikov: have you tried a different mirror? |
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| 12:37.25 | chris_ | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 12:37.28 | Dewi | nandan: overview: you need to download the linux java distribution from java.sun.com, run java-package to convert it to a .deb, and then install the .deb using dpkg |
| 12:37.32 | Rasko|nikov | Yoe, yes I did... |
| 12:37.46 | Dewi | chris_: sounds like you don't have a default audio device. |
| 12:37.59 | Rasko|nikov | ...i'll try some more |
| 12:38.02 | Dewi | Rasko|nikov: do you have a crazy router or something? |
| 12:38.03 | chris_ | :o |
| 12:38.50 | Dewi | Rasko|nikov: you could try FTP sources instead of HTTP, although they are slower... |
| 12:38.50 | Rasko|nikov | Dewi, It used to work with the same router |
| 12:38.53 | chris_ | how would i go about setting up a default audio device |
| 12:38.58 | chris_ | alsa confuses me |
| 12:38.59 | chris_ | :/ |
| 12:39.09 | Rasko|nikov | ok, lets try ftp... |
| 12:39.23 | Dewi | Rasko|nikov: I used to have problems with transparent HTTP caches and debian, my ISP used to corrupt apt. |
| 12:39.32 | Dewi | Rasko|nikov: I can't think of anything else; that's an odd problem you have there |
| 12:39.57 | Rasko|nikov | ok |
| 12:40.04 | Dewi | anyway, night guys |
| 12:40.06 | nandan | Dewi, i got rpm package from sun ? |
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| 12:40.17 | Dewi | nandan: no |
| 12:40.18 | Rasko|nikov | good morning Dewi lol |
| 12:40.24 | chris_ | :( |
| 12:40.24 | Dewi | nandan: read the man page |
| 12:40.33 | Dewi | nandan: I'm pretty sure it needs the non-rpm one |
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| 12:42.01 | _dishwasher | Howdy, does anyone know whether it's possible to move from a 32bit install to a 64 bit architecture... the HOW-TO files I've ready are rather dated, and say apt-get arch-upgrade isn't possib.e |
| 12:42.03 | chris_ | how would i go about setting up a default audio device on alsa |
| 12:42.12 | EdLin | nandan: you don't want the rpm |
| 12:42.53 | Dewi | nandan: java-package is going to build you a .deb, which is the debian equivalent of an RPM. So you want the raw package. |
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| 12:43.15 | Dewi | anyway, bye chaps |
| 12:43.18 | _dishwasher | Anyone know? |
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| 12:43.30 | antgel | _dishwasher: no, or #debian-amd64 |
| 12:43.34 | chris_ | sigh |
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| 12:44.44 | chris_ | anyone have an answer to my question? |
| 12:44.52 | petemc | 7 |
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| 12:45.14 | antgel | chris_: stop moaning. you haven't told us what you have tried to get alsa working, and what errors you got |
| 12:45.21 | chris_ | ,, |
| 12:45.34 | chris_ | i just told you what error i got when i tried to run alsamixer |
| 12:45.45 | chris_ | now i have to configure a default audio device |
| 12:45.48 | petemc | chris_: have you contacted plantronics to ask about a driver? |
| 12:45.50 | hutgyrr | how is it that if your copying files over the network or using tar to create an archive from the command line, you can never see progress??? |
| 12:46.10 | Dewi | chris_: you said it looked like ALSA detected it... |
| 12:46.14 | hutgyrr | just a blinking cursor |
| 12:46.19 | chris_ | you shouldn't have to "contact plantronics" for a driver |
| 12:46.21 | antgel | hutgyrr: have you read the man pages? |
| 12:46.22 | petemc | hutgyrr: the apps dont have that facility |
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| 12:46.27 | chris_ | somehow i got it to work in fedora core 4 |
| 12:46.48 | chris_ | yes, on boot alsa detected it as snd-usb-audio |
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| 12:46.57 | chris_ | i'm just trying to get it to work in xmms |
| 12:47.02 | antgel | chris_: if you don't know what you did, how are we supposed to know. just make sure the right kernel modules is inserted. simple as that |
| 12:47.10 | Dewi | chris_: have you looked at alsa configuration? |
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| 12:47.17 | petemc | chris_: did you check which output plugin xmms is using? |
| 12:47.36 | chris_ | xmms is using the alsa output plugin |
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| 12:47.46 | chris_ | but i dont know what to do from there |
| 12:47.49 | chris_ | to configure that |
| 12:48.08 | Dewi | chris_: try to configure alsa. I haven't used it but you should probably attempt that. |
| 12:48.18 | TyreseJones | if i make an identical clone of my debian installation onto another computer, what info do i need to change? Or, how do I get it to regenerate it's SSH keys? |
| 12:48.30 | jm_ | man ssh-keygen |
| 12:48.44 | jm_ | I would also change its hostname and IP if it's static |
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| 12:49.34 | fireba11 | *am back* |
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| 12:50.45 | cr3 | which lightweight program is commonly used to view images (png, gif, jpg, etc.)? |
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| 12:51.47 | zinx | cr3: which toothbrush is commonly used to brush teeth? |
| 12:51.55 | EdLin | cr3: I used to rely on xv but it's non-free. |
| 12:52.10 | antgel | cr3: i use display but not sure if it's lightweight |
| 12:53.27 | vorsprung | cr3, display |
| 12:54.44 | vorsprung | cr3, the package for "display" is imagemagick |
| 12:54.55 | cr3 | EdLin: aha! xv is what I was looking for, but thanks for specifying it's nonfree. I think I'll switch to display then. |
| 12:54.55 | Anthro | cr3: display is very lightweight. kuickview is my new favorite for slideshows and the like, however. |
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| 12:55.15 | Anthro | cr3: And xv can still be found at apt-get.org |
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| 12:55.41 | cr3 | vorsprung: thanks, that wasn't obvious. how would I go about determining that display is in that package, if I don't already have display installed and if I don't ask on irc :) |
| 12:55.48 | vorsprung | cr3, I think xv is nicer in many ways than display |
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| 12:56.03 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 12:56.23 | vorsprung | cr3, I usually use the website for that. There is a "packages" link in the LH menu |
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| 12:56.50 | antgel | cr3: you use apt-file. you read the Debian Reference. |
| 12:56.51 | cr3 | vorsprung: it might be technically nicer but the license makes it overall worse in my list of requirements :) |
| 12:57.12 | yoo | mt -f /dev/st0 compression is not good |
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| 12:57.30 | deeptaz | i have configured wireles usb nic on debian sarge kerne l2.6.13 |
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| 12:57.51 | deeptaz | sorry installed the module |
| 12:58.26 | cr3 | yoo: I've never used mt (magnetic tape) before, what are you using it for? |
| 12:58.26 | deeptaz | now whien i iconfigure i through iwconfig |
| 12:58.36 | deeptaz | itsaysnowireless extensions |
| 12:58.46 | yoo | cr3 :: to make backup |
| 12:59.06 | deeptaz | when i give iwlist iface frequency |
| 12:59.15 | deeptaz | it gives a warning |
| 12:59.37 | azeem | deeptaz: does dmesg/the logs say anything about a found nic when you load the module/bootup? |
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| 13:00.09 | deeptaz | i can see the module loaded |
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| 13:00.23 | azeem | deeptaz: but does it detect your nic? |
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| 13:01.19 | deeptaz | yes i have compiled that nic driver and loaded it specifically |
| 13:01.46 | deeptaz | it is giving me output for iwlist eth1 frequency |
| 13:02.01 | deeptaz | however with a warning |
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| 13:02.42 | deeptaz | driver has been compiled with version 18 of wireless extensions while the program supports upto version 17 |
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| 13:02.48 | deeptaz | azeem:????? |
| 13:03.08 | syntaxx | i just wanna know if in debian sarge have a autoconfiguration for networking just like ubuntu? |
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| 13:03.59 | beauter19 | salut |
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| 13:04.16 | deeptaz | azeeem:????????????????/ |
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| 13:04.18 | jjazz | syntaxx: You might get a better answer to that question in #ubuntu |
| 13:04.29 | llama32 | how do i check statistics (time online?) for my PPP connection? |
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| 13:05.24 | azeem | deeptaz: uhm, what? |
| 13:05.45 | azeem | deeptaz: I don't know about your problem, I just suggested to check whether you get success messages from the logs |
| 13:06.10 | hutgyrr | is there a diff between a tar & a tarball |
| 13:06.11 | deeptaz | azeem:yes it says registered nnew driver |
| 13:06.46 | azeem | cool then, I don't know about the rest of your issue, sorry |
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| 13:07.06 | pi_ | can someone help me with ftp config? |
| 13:07.28 | pi_ | i'm trying to find out where to configure what permissions are set on a file that is uploaded |
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| 13:10.50 | hutgyrr | chmod ### /var/www/whateverfileis.html |
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| 13:12.07 | jm_ | pi_: some FTP daemons let you configure the umask setting |
| 13:12.32 | Anthro | hutgyrr: A tarball is a tar file. Just tar generally refers to the program itself. |
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| 13:12.55 | abrotman | dpkg? |
| 13:13.02 | abrotman | no badgers either |
| 13:13.25 | Kernel-Kris | can someone tell me how to give user rights to a folder......... |
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| 13:14.08 | Yoe | Kernel-Kris: uh, "chmod u+<whatever rights you want> folder" |
| 13:14.17 | Yoe | Kernel-Kris: if that doesn't help, please explain in more detail what you want |
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| 13:14.27 | Kernel-Kris | Yoe: i want it to be users specific |
| 13:14.39 | questi | hi.. i've a swap partition but how will i mount it ? |
| 13:14.49 | Yoe | Kernel-Kris: give an example, please |
| 13:15.06 | Yoe | questi: use swapon (swap space isn't mounted, it's activated) |
| 13:15.23 | llama32 | Kernel-Kris: add users you want access to it to a group |
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| 13:15.42 | Kernel-Kris | i want only root and a certain user to have full rights to it and no one else.........its a web directory...... |
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| 13:15.56 | llama32 | questi: look in fstab, for other swap partitions, and add another similar entry for the new one |
| 13:16.09 | Yoe | Kernel-Kris: then what llama32 said -- create a group for that folder, |
| 13:16.12 | llama32 | its not reall mounted |
| 13:16.12 | llama32 | *really |
| 13:16.14 | Yoe | add the webserver and that user to the group, |
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| 13:16.24 | llama32 | but i think swap is defined in fstab |
| 13:16.26 | Yoe | run "chgrp -R group folder", |
| 13:16.35 | Yoe | and say "chmod -R o-a folder" |
| 13:16.48 | pi_ | Yoe, i know how to change the permissions after the upload, |
| 13:17.14 | pi_ | but like.. I've got users that might publish web pages using say,... publisher, or something like that, where it automatically uploads to the server via ftp. |
| 13:17.14 | Yoe | that will ensure the web server and that one specific user will be able to do anything with it (and also root, because root can do everything), but nobody else |
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| 13:17.39 | pi_ | now, when it does that upload, it automatically gives it the permissions u+rw g+r, where can I change those defaults? |
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| 13:17.44 | Yoe | pi_: yes, and? |
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| 13:18.21 | Yoe | pi_: ah, sorry, missed your last line |
| 13:18.30 | Guerin | pi_: in your ftpd |
| 13:18.45 | Guerin | pi_: or your default umask |
| 13:18.53 | pi_ | yea, where's that set? |
| 13:18.56 | pi_ | in my ftpd? |
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| 13:19.01 | Yoe | pi_: if some part of your path does not have +x permissions, then people will not be able to go there anyway |
| 13:19.11 | pi_ | Yoe, i know that. |
| 13:19.16 | Yoe | pi_: okay |
| 13:19.52 | casualite | Can someone please help me build a deb out of the source of tasksel. I've need help to find out how I can make the deb to install programs into /usr/lib/packages... |
| 13:20.11 | hutgyrr | if i wanted to search for the term verbose in a man page what command would I use? |
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| 13:20.28 | Coke | casualite: there's a HUGE pile of documents describing that, including policies and guidelines. |
| 13:20.34 | resiak | man foo; then type /verbose<ENTER> |
| 13:20.47 | Coke | casualite: read the right-hand column http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 13:21.06 | hutgyrr | ah thanks resiak |
| 13:21.09 | deeptaz | i get this warning when i give iwlist iface frequency:driver has been compiled with version 18 of wireless extensions while the program supports upto version 17 |
| 13:21.30 | hutgyrr | how could I use grep in this situation? |
| 13:21.32 | casualite | Coke: thanks, but is what I described written about there? |
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| 13:21.40 | deeptaz | i have debian sarge 2.6.13 |
| 13:21.54 | Coke | casualite: everything you need to know to build any package is there |
| 13:22.06 | shadowc4t | Sarge doesn't have the 2.6.13 kernel |
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| 13:22.15 | cahoot | hutgyrr: man <page>|grep <term> |
| 13:22.16 | shadowc4t | so either you're not running Sarge |
| 13:22.25 | shadowc4t | or you're not running a debian kernel |
| 13:22.26 | casualite | ok thanks Coke |
| 13:22.31 | Guerin | apart from anything else, 2.6.13 is nothing even remotely like a sarge version |
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| 13:22.57 | shadowc4t | and we don't troublesort custom kernels here >:) |
| 13:23.06 | peterS | debian? postfix? ISP blocks outgoing mail so you need to use their smarthost? http://p12n.org/kb/smarthost.html - feedback appreciated (email or /msg) |
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| 13:23.31 | deeptaz | shadowc4cat:i have downloaded it from kernel.org |
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| 13:23.43 | Coke | peterS: Excellent. Now write one for Exim4. :) |
| 13:23.51 | shadowc4t | deeptaz: then it's your custom kernel configuration, aka your problem |
| 13:23.52 | peterS | Coke: if I used it I would |
| 13:23.53 | shadowc4t | not ours |
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| 13:24.01 | pi_ | anyone know where to change the default umask in ftpd-0.17-20 |
| 13:24.02 | pi_ | ? |
| 13:24.08 | Coke | peterS: oh, it would be a bible just to describe the directory structure, hehe. |
| 13:24.09 | hutgyrr | cahoot: that took ages |
| 13:24.09 | Guerin | pi_: man ftpd |
| 13:24.11 | peterS | heh |
| 13:24.19 | hutgyrr | is grep really slow in general? |
| 13:24.31 | Coke | hutgyrr: grep is really fast |
| 13:24.35 | hutgyrr | mmmm |
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| 13:24.58 | hutgyrr | maybe its because im creating two large archives at the same time |
| 13:24.58 | Shadur | hutgyrr: grep is exactly as fast as your file access/stream throughput |
| 13:25.03 | pi_ | thanks |
| 13:25.04 | hutgyrr | oh |
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| 13:25.14 | caphuso | grep can be terribly slow |
| 13:25.24 | hutgyrr | in what circumstances? |
| 13:25.40 | caphuso | hutgyrr: bugs.debian.org/grep/ |
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| 13:26.01 | hutgyrr | what is grep most useful for? |
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| 13:26.14 | Guerin | grepping |
| 13:26.21 | caphuso | err, bugs.debian.org/grep |
| 13:26.23 | yoo | Somebody know how active the compression on my travan 4/8GB device: st0 ? please |
| 13:26.23 | Guerin | in fact |
| 13:26.29 | Guerin | that's all it's good for |
| 13:26.30 | Yoe | hutgyrr: finding occurrances of a specific string in files |
| 13:26.41 | caphuso | s/string/pattern/ |
| 13:26.51 | Yoe | well, yeah. |
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| 13:29.00 | morluk | hi |
| 13:29.15 | riemensc | what is the best package for apache webserver with php,mysql extension in debian sarge? |
| 13:29.34 | Yoe | riemensc: depends on your requirements. They all support php and mysql |
| 13:29.50 | Guerin | riemensc: there is no one package. You want apache, php4 and mysql-server |
| 13:30.01 | yangsx | hi, I'm trying to make a debian package using dpatch, |
| 13:30.11 | Yoe | Guerin: or apache2, or apache-ssl |
| 13:30.13 | hutgyrr | is there not some LAMP server available? |
| 13:30.25 | yangsx | but when build, it says "makefile does not exist." |
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| 13:30.34 | yangsx | does anybody know why? |
| 13:30.41 | Yoe | hutgyrr: there is not one package that provides all LAMP functionality, as the functionality is also useful in other circumstances |
| 13:30.41 | Guerin | Yoe: unspecified still gets plain old apache 1.3 in sane company |
| 13:30.54 | Guerin | at least |
| 13:31.02 | Guerin | in what *I* consider to be sane company :) |
| 13:31.05 | Yoe | hutgyrr: that doesn't mean LAMP functionality isn't available |
| 13:31.12 | yangsx | it says one of my patch not applied to ./ . |
| 13:31.13 | Guerin | Yoe: does the makefile exist? |
| 13:31.16 | Yoe | Guerin: personally, I prefer apache2 |
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| 13:31.34 | Yoe | Guerin: I presume you mean s/Yoe/yangsx/ :) |
| 13:31.38 | Levi- | how do I change cgi-bin in the default apache2.conf? |
| 13:31.44 | Guerin | Yoe: i haven't used it much; 1.3 works for me, so I see no reason to change. |
| 13:31.56 | Levi- | I can't find any place where it is mentioned anything about cgi-bin |
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| 13:32.00 | Yoe | Levi-: you open it with an editor and you change the configuration... |
| 13:32.02 | Guerin | but I suppose new setups should be the new one |
| 13:32.06 | Yoe | Levi-: ah, right. Sorry. |
| 13:32.17 | Yoe | /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 13:32.27 | abrotman | hutgyrr: more than one .. which LAMP do you mean? |
| 13:32.28 | Yoe | Guerin: IME, apache2 is a fair bit faster |
| 13:32.32 | yangsx | I include dpatch.make in my debian/rules file |
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| 13:32.46 | Guerin | Levi-: apache2 hauls in a bunch of additional config files, rather than using one mainline file |
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| 13:33.01 | prock | if I set my stack size limit (via setrlimit), does it take effect immediately for the current process or is it only for child processes? |
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| 13:33.04 | Guerin | Yoe: i've seen arguments both ways, but it does seem that way. |
| 13:33.14 | yangsx | and dpatch is already installed to my system |
| 13:33.28 | Levi- | Yoe: Thanks a lot. Just what I needed :) |
| 13:33.38 | Yoe | Guerin: ... and in any case, "it works for me" is a perfectly valid reason to stick with the old. "If it ain't broken, ..." |
| 13:33.45 | abrotman | dpkg: come back! |
| 13:33.49 | one2one | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:34.35 | Guerin | one2one: are you talking about onboard raid? |
| 13:34.37 | bobw_ | can someone help me install a debian DHCP server? |
| 13:34.49 | Guerin | bobw_: aptitude install dhcp3-server; done |
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| 13:34.52 | one2one | Guerin yes |
| 13:34.55 | saintiss | hi |
| 13:34.57 | saintiss | I'm trying to install libapache-mod-ssl here, and it wants to remove my kernel! how did I deserve this? |
| 13:35.12 | Guerin | one2one: give up. Either use proper hardware raid, or in-kernel raid. |
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| 13:35.21 | Guerin | saintiss: why? |
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| 13:35.26 | Guerin | saintiss: what reason does it give? |
| 13:35.30 | yangsx | the source is clean, and make unpatch raises the error. But I don't know how to fix it. |
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| 13:35.40 | one2one | uhm |
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| 13:35.55 | one2one | i dont care about raid i just want to install debian |
| 13:36.04 | saintiss | Guerin, it doesn't really... I just do apt-get install libapache-mod-ssl, and it lists the kernel-image-2.6.8 under the packages which will be removed |
| 13:36.09 | Guerin | one2one: oh. |
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| 13:36.20 | saintiss | Guerin, it's sarge btw |
| 13:36.34 | Guerin | saintiss: is another kernel going to be installed? And is it pure sarge? |
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| 13:36.56 | saintiss | Guerin, no, it does not want to install another kernel, but it does want to install e.g. e2fsprogs |
| 13:37.02 | saintiss | it is pure sarge, yes |
| 13:37.06 | Guerin | !e2fsprogs |
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| 13:37.14 | Sebbb | hi there |
| 13:37.15 | Guerin | bah, this is a known issue |
| 13:37.21 | Sebbb | antgel: there? |
| 13:37.30 | Guerin | but dpkg appears to not be in the house, and I haven't encountered it |
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| 13:37.39 | saintiss | Guerin, known issue? is there anything I can do to resolve that? |
| 13:37.39 | resiak | apt: e2fsprogs? |
| 13:37.41 | apt | Ext2 Filesystem Utilities. URL: http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/e2fsprogs.html |
| 13:37.41 | stew | saintiss: what does apt-cache policy libapache-mod-ssl say for Candidate: ? |
| 13:37.53 | resiak | :( |
| 13:37.56 | Guerin | saintiss: doesn't it tell you to use force-loopbreak or soemthing? |
| 13:37.59 | Sebbb | First I had this problem: |
| 13:37.59 | Sebbb | VFS: Cannot open root device "hde1" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 13:37.59 | Sebbb | Please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 13:38.00 | Sebbb | Kernel panic - Not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 13:38.02 | Guerin | saintiss: check the BTS |
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| 13:38.11 | Sebbb | then I made an initrd and put in grub, and now it says |
| 13:38.16 | stew | i'll bet it's not pure sarge |
| 13:38.16 | Guerin | Sebbb: use a debian kernel. |
| 13:38.18 | hutgyrr | how would I set up my server to make tarballs out of all the directorys on one drive over the night... |
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| 13:38.23 | saintiss | stew, 2.8.24-1 |
| 13:38.31 | Guerin | hutgyrr: man cron; man tar |
| 13:38.32 | stew | !info libapache-mod-ssl sarge |
| 13:38.35 | saintiss | Guerin, it does tell me to use force-loopback, but that looked unsafe to me |
| 13:38.41 | Yoe | hutgyrr: are you sure you want to do that? it's probably going to take a _lot_ of time... |
| 13:38.42 | stew | saintiss: you aren't running pure sarge |
| 13:38.49 | Guerin | saintiss: it probably is, but so is uninstalling your running kernel. |
| 13:38.50 | Sebbb | UDF-FS: No partition found |
| 13:38.55 | stew | saintiss: you cannot mix stable and testing |
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| 13:39.07 | Yoe | hutgyrr: it may be far more interesting to create something that will make you a tarball on the fly... |
| 13:39.07 | saintiss | stew, hmm, I must admit there is a repo for iTunes which is not sarge, but that's all |
| 13:39.09 | stew | @info libapache-mod-ssl sarge |
| 13:39.10 | Sebbb | Kernel panic: No syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 13:39.15 | Sebbb | Anybody has an idea? |
| 13:39.17 | hutgyrr | mmmm, it will. But I want t archive it all and get it off the disk so I can use it for other stuff |
| 13:39.29 | Yoe | ah, you just want to make backups :) |
| 13:39.30 | helix | tarzeau: ping |
| 13:39.35 | Sebbb | Guerin: I wanna run the grsecurity patch |
| 13:39.36 | Yoe | I thought you were talking about something else :) |
| 13:39.41 | stew | saintiss: well the version of libapache-mod-ssl you are trying to install is from etch not sarge |
| 13:39.43 | deeLer | could anyone help me setup an installaiton with LVM ? |
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| 13:39.53 | Sebbb | Guerin: Should I get the Debian kernel sources, in other words? |
| 13:39.53 | Yoe | deeLer: don't ask to ask, just ask |
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| 13:40.00 | Guerin | Sebbb: then you're almost certainly paranoid enough to want a non-modular kernel, too. |
| 13:40.04 | Guerin | Or you should be. |
| 13:40.11 | saintiss | stew, hmm, it says the package will come from: ftp://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages |
| 13:40.13 | tarzeau | helix: pong |
| 13:40.16 | saintiss | stew, looks like sarge to me, no? |
| 13:40.22 | helix | tarzeau: could you translate something into turkish for me? |
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| 13:40.29 | stew | saintiss: no, testing is etch, sarge is stable |
| 13:40.32 | helix | I would be forever indebted to you :) |
| 13:40.35 | Sebbb | Guerin: do you know what the problem is? |
| 13:40.42 | hutgyrr | sure cron will start a job at a certain time, but I want the comp to make two archives at a time and as soon as its done them, go onto the next one |
| 13:40.49 | tarzeau | helix: i can try, gruezi btw |
| 13:40.50 | Guerin | Sebbb: debian kernels may have grsec patches, but I'd just use a vanilla source and build what I need (and only what I need) into the kernel; no modules. That would solve the filesystem issues, for one thing. |
| 13:40.51 | deeLer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.57 | helix | tarzeau: gruezi! |
| 13:40.58 | stew | saintiss: what does apt-cache policy libc6 say for Installed: and Candidate: |
| 13:41.04 | Yoe | hutgyrr: how many directories are we talking about? |
| 13:41.14 | Guerin | Sebbb: I haven't seen the DUF issue, but the first one is that you have rootfs or root device controller built as modules. |
| 13:41.15 | helix | tarzeau: hang on one second while I get it |
| 13:41.16 | saintiss | stew, |
| 13:41.17 | saintiss | Installed: 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
| 13:41.17 | saintiss | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.22 | hutgyrr | about 30 |
| 13:41.32 | Guerin | saintiss: you're running sarge, but you have etch in sources. |
| 13:41.40 | Yoe | hutgyrr: and do they change often? |
| 13:41.49 | saintiss | Guerin, so the solution is to change the sources to sarge? |
| 13:42.05 | Yoe | (i.e., could you maintain a file with them listed, without going insane) |
| 13:42.09 | hutgyrr | nope, old file systems that aren't in use any more. |
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| 13:42.32 | Yoe | hutgyrr: then just create two cronjobs, with 15 directories each |
| 13:42.42 | Guerin | saintiss: the solution would have been to not change them to etch in the first place. You might get away with changing to sarge and pretending nothing bad ever happened. |
| 13:42.51 | Yoe | (or "half of them", if they're not all similarly-sized) |
| 13:43.03 | hutgyrr | and will it finish onw before starting the other? |
| 13:43.07 | hutgyrr | *one |
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| 13:43.25 | saintiss | Guerin, I never changed them, but I used a snapshot sarge netinstall, so it probably set them to testing because of that |
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| 13:43.30 | Yoe | hutgyrr: it will if you write it properly |
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| 13:43.37 | Guerin | saintiss: right. |
| 13:43.47 | hutgyrr | jez, ive never wrote one b4 |
| 13:43.49 | Yoe | as in, a "for" loop, or just 15 "tar" command lines under eachother |
| 13:44.02 | beardy | hutgyrr: Write a script that runs a number of things until they are finished, and then starts with the other things, if that's what you want to do. Then run the script via cron. |
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| 13:44.05 | Yoe | hutgyrr: it's never too late to learn |
| 13:44.20 | Guerin | !abs guide |
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| 13:44.28 | Guerin | ~abs guide |
| 13:44.34 | Guerin | ... |
| 13:44.35 | hutgyrr | yeah i no |
| 13:44.36 | Yoe | Guerin: dpkg is b0rken ATM |
| 13:44.40 | Guerin | @abs guide |
| 13:44.49 | Guerin | so are apt and ravenbird |
| 13:45.02 | Yoe | heh |
| 13:45.06 | deeLer | debinstall keeps telling me i have to reboot before doing anything to /dev/mapper/dellvol-dellogvol |
| 13:45.09 | Sebbb | Guerin: what's the root device controller? |
| 13:45.10 | Guerin | #debian's triple-bot redundancy has failed!!1 |
| 13:45.24 | stew | @test |
| 13:45.24 | ravenbird_ | Yes, stew, you're still online. |
| 13:45.27 | Guerin | Sebbb: it's whatever chipset your harddisk is plugged into; usually an ide controller. |
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| 13:46.07 | badcoder | how do you send a carriage return ? |
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| 13:46.18 | jimmyxx | hi, whats the apt-get install package I need to install mysql for apache2 ? |
| 13:46.20 | Anthro | badcoder: What context? |
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| 13:46.37 | badcoder | is it /cr ? |
| 13:46.47 | Anthro | jimmyxx: mysql and apache2 do not have anything to do with one another. |
| 13:46.47 | Guerin | !acs apache2 mysql |
| 13:46.48 | antgel | jimmyxx: what do you want to do? there is no mysql for apache. there is mysql for php |
| 13:46.52 | Guerin | BAH |
| 13:46.54 | Guerin | stupid bot |
| 13:46.59 | Anthro | !pal Guerin |
| 13:47.09 | antgel | !seen dpkg |
| 13:47.10 | Guerin | jimmyxx: apt-cache search apache2 mysql |
| 13:47.12 | jimmyxx | ow - how do I install mysql then? lol |
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| 13:47.15 | antgel | doh |
| 13:47.19 | beardy | :) |
| 13:47.19 | Guerin | Anthro: joke's on you, bub - the bot's dead |
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| 13:47.31 | Anthro | Guerin: That's the point, isn't it? Irony! |
| 13:47.40 | Guerin | Anthro: not at all. |
| 13:47.52 | Sebbb | Guerin: <*> VIA82CXXX chipset support |
| 13:47.53 | Sebbb | you mean that? |
| 13:48.06 | beardy | dpkg died 13:24, the time here now is 15:47. |
| 13:48.12 | Guerin | Sebbb: yeah, could be. |
| 13:48.16 | Guerin | Sebbb: rootfs too. |
| 13:48.39 | Guerin | Sebbb: but you SHOULD be building a monolithic kernel if you're paranoid enough to use grsec... |
| 13:48.45 | Sebbb | rootfs = ext2fs according to grub, but when I boot with the old kernel, the "mount" command says it's an ext3 |
| 13:48.50 | Sebbb | my / is /dev/hde1 |
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| 13:49.04 | NP_complete | hi all |
| 13:49.08 | beardy | ~seen dpkg |
| 13:49.18 | apt | dpkg <n=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2h 44m 19s ago, saying: 'hagarke is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=hagarke'. |
| 13:49.19 | stew | jimmyxx: you want mysql-server /mysql-client | mysql-sever-4.1 / mysql-client-4.1 |
| 13:49.27 | KimHansen | How do I clean the man page cache? |
| 13:49.47 | syntaxx | in debian sarge is there a tool who auto configure the network like in ubuntu? |
| 13:49.54 | Yoe | KimHansen: why would you want to do that? |
| 13:50.00 | Guerin | syntaxx: etherconf |
| 13:50.04 | NP_complete | I've installed sarge, now, hot to istall X system, there's a lot of packages! |
| 13:50.10 | NP_complete | wich to install? |
| 13:50.25 | Yoe | NP_complete: x-window-system |
| 13:50.25 | Guerin | NP_complete: x-window-system and your windowmanager of choice |
| 13:50.27 | Sebbb | Guerin: I'll try rebooting again then |
| 13:50.30 | Yoe | that will pull in whatever you need |
| 13:50.33 | Guerin | NP_complete: if you don't know, check xwinman.org |
| 13:50.53 | Guerin | otherwise you'll be stuck with twm; and that's not good, hackers, that's not good. |
| 13:51.03 | NP_complete | i prefer gnome XD |
| 13:51.11 | Sebbb | Guerin: is there a problem for grub to detect that / is ext3 and not ext2fs which it says when I type "root (hd0,0)" in grub? |
| 13:51.15 | Guerin | no accounting for taste |
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| 13:51.35 | Guerin | Sebbb: grub likes ext3 |
| 13:51.40 | KimHansen | Yoe: I did a 'man at' and it showed me the manpage even though I had removed the command, I find that confusing |
| 13:51.52 | Guerin | Sebbb: ext3 filesystems are mountable as ext2 if need be, also. |
| 13:52.17 | Sebbb | Guerin: so how come grub says "ext2fs" when I type "root (hd0,0)" then? |
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| 13:52.36 | Guerin | Sebbb: no idea. |
| 13:52.37 | dna_ | when I am writing my partition tables for a fat32 File system it says |
| 13:52.39 | dna_ | There is no *BSD partition on /dev/hdb. |
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| 13:52.52 | Sebbb | is there any fs directive? |
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| 13:53.02 | Guerin | Sebbb: don't believe so. |
| 13:53.09 | syntaxx | Guerin: after configuring it? what will i do next to check if it has a connection between the two pcs? |
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| 13:53.44 | Guerin | syntaxx: ping |
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| 13:54.05 | syntaxx | thanks Guerin |
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| 13:54.41 | Yoe | KimHansen: that would be a bug in either the at or man package. Please report it (to man; if that's not right, I'm sure the maintainer will reassign it) |
| 13:54.41 | golya | Hi! What can I do, if I just want fortune to be installed, but use my own fortunes? in sid fortune-mod depends on fortune cookies |
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| 13:54.56 | Rendergraf | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29039&vote=good&tan=37819917 |
| 13:55.01 | Sebbb | Guerin: cause this kernel works on my other system where I run lilo |
| 13:55.01 | Guerin | golya: you can tell it to use a fortune package of your choice |
| 13:55.06 | Yoe | golya: use the "equivs" package to install a package that Provides fortune cookies |
| 13:55.17 | Guerin | Sebbb: it may be something to do with grsec. I don't know. |
| 13:55.30 | Guerin | Sebbb: use lilo, or ask on a mailing list or somesuch. |
| 13:55.33 | golya | Yoe: sounds ok, but I don't have a package from my fortunes. Should I make one? |
| 13:55.36 | Yoe | or of course package your own cookies inside a Debian package that provides the right virtual package name, that might work too |
| 13:55.41 | Sebbb | Guerin: what kernel do you suggest using otherwise? |
| 13:56.02 | Yoe | golya: for equivs, that's not necessary -- it just creates an empty package to make sure any provides/conflicts/whatnot are satisfied |
| 13:56.07 | Guerin | Sebbb: stock debian. |
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| 13:56.19 | Guerin | Sebbb: debian kernels are SELinux now |
| 13:56.31 | Sebbb | okay |
| 13:56.41 | Yoe | golya: of course, that's something you _only_ want to use if whatever you "install" that way is provided in a different way |
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| 13:57.51 | TuxMeister | hey guys... |
| 13:58.07 | golya | Yoe: thanks. Doing man equiv :) |
| 13:58.11 | TuxMeister | i need some help... how could i rename a bunch of files in a folder, all at the same time? |
| 13:58.17 | TuxMeister | i mean, rename the extension |
| 13:58.27 | golya | TuxMeister: rename |
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| 13:58.29 | amphi | TuxMeister: you could use rename |
| 13:58.55 | TuxMeister | yep, but it uses regular expressions, and have no idea... |
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| 13:58.56 | KimHansen | How can I dump the contents of /var/cache/man/fsstnd/index.db ? |
| 13:59.00 | golya | TuxMeister: It's a perl script, so you should know a little about regular expressions :) |
| 13:59.07 | beardy | TuxMeister: extensions does not exist, only filenames (with a dot . in them if you wish) |
| 13:59.11 | Dewi | TuxMeister: how else did you expect to do a mass replace? |
| 13:59.13 | golya | KimHansen: cat >( |
| 13:59.25 | golya | KimHansen: I mean cat :) |
| 13:59.26 | Guerin | mmv can do it too |
| 13:59.28 | TuxMeister | Dewi, dunno, that's why i'm askin ;) |
| 13:59.28 | Sebbb | Guerin: well, it didn't work |
| 13:59.33 | Guerin | but rename is better. |
| 13:59.40 | Dewi | TuxMeister: learning regexp is worth your while :) |
| 13:59.40 | KimHansen | golya: I meant in a readable format |
| 13:59.41 | Sebbb | Guerin: where's the newest SELinux debian kernel? |
| 13:59.44 | Guerin | Sebbb: when dpkg comes back, ask him about "didn't work" |
| 13:59.53 | Guerin | Sebbb: on packages.debian.org, naturally. |
| 13:59.59 | Guerin | Sebbb: search for 'linux' |
| 14:00.18 | Sebbb | unstable? |
| 14:00.20 | TuxMeister | i'll check out some docs |
| 14:00.21 | TuxMeister | thanks |
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| 14:00.45 | z00m | hello. how can I create O-line password for dancer-ircd in Debian ? |
| 14:00.50 | Dewi | TuxMeister: a perl-regexp tutorial might be a better starter than a man page |
| 14:00.59 | Dewi | TuxMeister: gentler. |
| 14:01.00 | KimHansen | It is probably a 'dbm' file, is there some commandline tool to look into those files? |
| 14:01.22 | Guerin | z00m: same way as in dancer on any other platform. I suggest asking #freenode, since this network (used to?) run on dancer. |
| 14:01.26 | Yoe | KimHansen: to "look" into them, sure. To make sense of them, the app that made it |
| 14:01.34 | amphi | TuxMeister: or for i in *.foo; do mv $i ${i/.foo/.bar}; done to rename *.foo to *.bar |
| 14:01.39 | caphuso | Dewi: how about "man perlretut"? :) |
| 14:02.04 | abrotman | there should be a sleepcat tool to dump the DB |
| 14:02.17 | golya | amphi: what about a file called moofoo |
| 14:02.19 | Guerin | bah |
| 14:02.28 | Dewi | caphuso: gentle introductions in a man page?! what's the world coming to? |
| 14:02.32 | caphuso | amphi: what happens if he has a file 123.foo.456.foo? |
| 14:02.34 | Guerin | rename 's/.foo$/.bar$/' * |
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| 14:02.54 | caphuso | 's/\.foo$/.bar/' |
| 14:03.04 | abrotman | like .. dbmmanage ? |
| 14:03.13 | Guerin | oh, escape the . |
| 14:03.15 | Guerin | right |
| 14:03.21 | golya | ok, what about `basename $i .foo`.bar |
| 14:03.48 | bwana147_ | or ${i%.foo}.bar |
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| 14:03.55 | amphi | caphuso: true |
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| 14:04.06 | Yoe | bwana147_: that can be shorter -- ${i%foo}bar |
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| 14:04.14 | Yoe | whee, two characters less :-) |
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| 14:04.48 | bwana147_ | Yoe: only if you also want moofoo changed to moobar |
| 14:04.56 | TyreseJones | how do i empty the apt-cache |
| 14:05.04 | Yoe | bwana147_: sure |
| 14:05.06 | Guerin | TyreseJones: apt-cache clean |
| 14:05.10 | Guerin | bah |
| 14:05.12 | Guerin | apt-get clean |
| 14:05.13 | Dewi | Yoe: bah. |
| 14:05.17 | Guerin | where is my mind? |
| 14:05.18 | caphuso | bwana147_: you can avoid that by only looping over *.foo files |
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| 14:05.40 | bwana147_ | caphuso: good point |
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| 14:07.42 | bwana147_ | ls *.foo | perl -nle '/\.foo$/ and rename $_,"$`.bar"' |
| 14:08.10 | caphuso | bwana147_: good. that one wins the prize for the most obnoxious way |
| 14:08.12 | Dewi | jesus. no lack of choice for renaming approaches here. |
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| 14:08.34 | Guerin | bwana147_: go on, make one with pipe and while read |
| 14:08.37 | Dewi | caphuso: mine probably would have involved perl and xargs |
| 14:08.44 | Dewi | caphuso: and would have won on obnoxiousness |
| 14:08.49 | golya | bwana147_: bruhaha, why not rename? |
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| 14:09.32 | llama32 | am i here? |
| 14:09.39 | Dewi | llama32: not even a bit |
| 14:09.47 | llama32 | ok thanks |
| 14:09.56 | Guerin | llama32: your statement can never return false. |
| 14:09.58 | golya | ok, good, so llamas are here :) |
| 14:10.02 | kadigibox | could someone tell me what I use to errase a DVD RW? |
| 14:10.09 | Guerin | since 'here' is relative to the speaker |
| 14:10.10 | bwana147_ | golya: I was about to say "because I haven't got it installed" |
| 14:10.21 | golya | kadigibox: no need to erase sucha a medium |
| 14:10.22 | llama32 | Geurin: it can if xchat didnt magically stay connected when my dialup died |
| 14:10.23 | bwana147_ | but I do have it. Only I didn't know it existed. |
| 14:10.42 | Dewi | golya: there isn't? |
| 14:10.53 | kadigibox | golya, I need to burn a new ISO to the disk |
| 14:10.56 | golya | bwana147_: yes, that was the point >( |
| 14:11.05 | golya | kadigibox: then go ahead, and burn |
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| 14:11.33 | kadigibox | will that just overwrite then? |
| 14:11.33 | golya | bwana147_: sorry, stupid keyboard, :) at the end |
| 14:11.40 | golya | kadigibox: yes |
| 14:11.49 | golya | AFAIK |
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| 14:12.44 | syntaxx | Guerin: is linneigborhood is a good network browser? |
| 14:12.50 | stew | kadigibox: iirc you use growisofs -Z, read the growisofs manpage |
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| 14:13.16 | Guerin | syntaxx: no idea. I doubt it, based on the name. |
| 14:13.33 | KimHansen | abrotman: No, it wasn't dbmmanage, but I found a way to do it with Perl: |
| 14:13.48 | KimHansen | perl -MData::Dumper -MGDBM_File -e'tie %hash, "GDBM_File", "/var/cache/man/fsstnd/index.db", &GDBM_READER, 0640;print Dumper \%hash' |
| 14:14.00 | syntaxx | Guerin: will u suggest a good or a normaly used network browser? |
| 14:14.25 | Guerin | syntaxx: i use /bin/bash, myself. |
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| 14:15.17 | syntaxx | aww |
| 14:15.40 | golya | Guerin: really, for browsing? |
| 14:16.00 | Guerin | golya: well, since I know the layout of my network, I don't much have a need for browsing. |
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| 14:16.29 | tgkjer | syntaxx, i always use linneigborhood,not bad |
| 14:16.35 | Guerin | but basically, I have no idea, and am quite happy to remain in the dark on this one. |
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| 14:16.56 | syntaxx | tgkjer: i have a little problem in it.. cant browse but it detects |
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| 14:17.36 | tgkjer | yes sometime when that happen i use smbmount and fireup mc hehe |
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| 14:18.48 | resiak | syntaxx, tgkjer: The best I have found, oddly, are Nautilus and Konqueror. |
| 14:19.05 | syntaxx | tgkjer: when i try to browse it says cant load /etc/samba/smb.conf but when i check the smb.conf no file in /etc/samba =/ |
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| 14:19.26 | tgkjer | indeed, but i rarely use kde or gnome,beside im minimalist |
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| 14:20.11 | m4lu7 | not necessarily a debian question, but, off hand, does anyone here know how to eliminate the cursor in X? |
| 14:20.23 | caphuso | m4lu7: "eliminate"? |
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| 14:21.05 | m4lu7 | caphuso, yeah, as in "i don't want a cursor" |
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| 14:21.09 | abrotman | KimHansen: okeedokee |
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| 14:21.22 | Guerin | m4lu7: the mouse cursor? |
| 14:21.40 | m4lu7 | Right. |
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| 14:21.41 | caphuso | m4lu7: this is going out on a limb, but will unclutter do what you want? |
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| 14:22.08 | Guerin | m4lu7: without knowing anything much about it, I'd make a cursor theme consisting of one mid-grey pixel |
| 14:22.15 | m4lu7 | caphuso, tried it already, just want to know if there's an x config directive to eliminate the cursor, |
| 14:22.29 | m4lu7 | allowmouseopenfail , one would think, "Oh, well, no mouse, no cursor." |
| 14:22.32 | pablob | m4lu7: Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "boolean" |
| 14:22.44 | pablob | m4lu7: in ServerFlags Section |
| 14:22.46 | m4lu7 | pablob, i do that already, but there's still a cursor |
| 14:22.48 | caphuso | you can still use the mouse cursor, even without a mouse |
| 14:22.55 | tgkjer | syntaxx, try typing smbtree |
| 14:22.58 | m4lu7 | caphuso, aye, as i discovered :) |
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| 14:23.12 | caphuso | so it'd be rather daft to disable it just because you don't have a mouse |
| 14:23.16 | pablob | that option actually means "dont crash if no mouse found" |
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| 14:23.25 | syntaxx | tgkjer: then to connect? smbmount? |
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| 14:23.43 | pablob | if you want to disable the mouse, comment it out |
| 14:23.45 | libervisco | heya |
| 14:23.58 | m4lu7 | caphuso, in some situations, perhaps. but in mine, not daft. |
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| 14:24.31 | libervisco | I've just installed debian sarge and I see it's using Xfree86.. can I just replace that with xorg? |
| 14:24.48 | tgkjer | syntaxx, no,does it display all shared disk at your network? |
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| 14:24.56 | Guerin | libervisco: no. |
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| 14:25.36 | syntaxx | tgkjer: no, it just only displays MSHOME \\PATRICK |
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| 14:25.44 | Sebbb | Guerin: is it the kernel-image I should download? |
| 14:25.59 | libervisco | Guerin, how come? |
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| 14:26.17 | CosmoDad | is there any documentation on how to use a beamer under Debian? |
| 14:26.24 | Guerin | libervisco: sarge doesn't have xorg. You'd have to go outside the debian repos. |
| 14:26.30 | syntaxx | tgkjer: and timeout connecting to ip:445 |
| 14:26.36 | Guerin | libervisco: this is a case of "if you have to ask, you shouldn't" |
| 14:26.51 | syntaxx | and 139 |
| 14:27.36 | Guerin | Sebbb: the new ones are linux-image, in testing and up. |
| 14:27.37 | libervisco | Guerin, so I can, but only from testing for example? |
| 14:27.37 | stew | libervisco: /topic |
| 14:27.37 | Guerin | libervisco: no, you can't install testing stuff on stable. |
| 14:27.42 | libervisco | ok.. i see the topic.. sorry |
| 14:28.11 | Guerin | libervisco: there's no point, anyway - the composite manager etc. aren't in debian, so you won't get transsparency and useless shit like that which most people covet xorg for. |
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| 14:29.26 | libervisco | Guerin, actually I'm not looking for composite manager.. I'm just used to xorg.. but I guess it doesn't really matter.. |
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| 14:29.40 | Guerin | libervisco: i sincerely doubt you will see any difference. |
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| 14:29.48 | Virus-work | hi... can someone tell me how big a Debian mirror is? |
| 14:29.56 | stew | libervisco: i've switched a couple of machines and honestly cannot tell any difference at all |
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| 14:30.27 | libervisco | well... never mind then.. |
| 14:30.49 | ajeet | Hello, how do I get the icons on my gnome desktop to go away? |
| 14:30.58 | antgel | ajeet: don't use gnome |
| 14:31.05 | libervisco | but for that installing stuff from testing to stable.. everyone was saying that is possible.. I just add it to my sources list.. isn't that right? |
| 14:31.08 | Guerin | Virus-work: ~8G per branch, per arch; source is same again. |
| 14:31.18 | ajeet | I can't seem to delete the "wastebasket", "floppy" and "computer" shortcuts?! |
| 14:31.36 | Virus-work | Guerin, u sure??? |
| 14:31.50 | stew | libervisco: there have been a few abi changes that make the two releases inocmpatible. for instance it wont work for any c++ programs, or any qt programs |
| 14:31.51 | bibe | libervisco : it's not that simple, you have to create or edit /etc/apt/preferences file |
| 14:31.56 | Guerin | Virus-work: so binary+source, stable+testing+unstable for i386 = ~8G*6 = ~48G, allow about 60. |
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| 14:32.17 | Guerin | Virus-work: no, i used one significant figure. That's an estimate, dawg. |
| 14:32.40 | libervisco | stew, bibe, ah I see.. |
| 14:32.46 | ajeet | Anyone? I would go into the gnome IRC channel, but their server is down... |
| 14:33.04 | stew | ajeet: kill nautilus |
| 14:33.10 | Virus-work | Guerin, so 20G will suffice for sarge bins? :) |
| 14:33.26 | Guerin | Virus-work: for one arch, yeah. |
| 14:33.28 | stew | @dstats sarge |
| 14:33.36 | Virus-work | Guerin, yo :) thanks |
| 14:33.40 | ajeet | Seriously, surely Gnome isn't so crap that you can't remove certain desktop icons... |
| 14:33.45 | ravenbird_ | Debian Distro Stats on sarge... 706 packages, 264 maintainers, 1859 MB installed size, 509 MB compressed size. |
| 14:33.58 | stew | that aint right |
| 14:34.00 | Guerin | ravenbird_: you are full of shit |
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| 14:35.03 | Virus-work | lol |
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| 14:36.21 | boguh | how can i start gkrelmm without windows decorations? |
| 14:36.27 | abrotman | ~dstats sarge |
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| 14:36.43 | stew | boguh: depends on your winodw manager |
| 14:36.50 | boguh | stew fvwm |
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| 14:37.45 | abrotman | uhm .. where are don and dpkg /. |
| 14:37.46 | abrotman | ? |
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| 14:37.54 | Guerin | abrotman: riverside, californai |
| 14:37.57 | stew | donde el dpkg |
| 14:37.59 | abrotman | thanks |
| 14:37.59 | fluor- | is anyone here running scponly within a vserver? |
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| 14:39.56 | Sebbb | Guerin: and when you want to use SELinux you have to download a kernel from kernel.org and patch it yourself and config it? |
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| 14:40.28 | Guerin | Sebbb: i reckon debian kernels have it in. |
| 14:40.40 | Sebbb | # uname -a |
| 14:40.40 | Sebbb | Linux anna 2.6.12-1-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 21:23:21 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 14:40.47 | Sebbb | this kernel has SELinux built-in? |
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| 14:40.53 | Guerin | Sebbb: grep the config |
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| 14:41.19 | Sebbb | ok |
| 14:41.55 | Sebbb | this is an unstable kernel (not testing), but let's see |
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| 14:42.42 | Stabilisator | hmm i have problems with acpi. After x minutes the tft will be black. How can i disable that? |
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| 14:43.39 | amphi | Stabilisator: try setterm to set the power saving |
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| 14:43.58 | Estes2 | Hi everyone ! :) |
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| 14:44.36 | bobw_ | can someone help me with my DHCP server, dchp3-server, my dhcp server is on a different subnet than the leases i need to distrobute |
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| 14:44.43 | RickTux | hi, someone experienced with debian sparc installation? |
| 14:44.48 | Stabilisator | hmm setterm? |
| 14:44.50 | bobw_ | my error message in syslog says, "no free leases" |
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| 14:44.58 | RickTux | cramfs: wrong magic |
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| 14:45.04 | fireba11 | bobw_: where is your problem `? |
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| 14:45.08 | RickTux | i cannot mount the root fs |
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| 14:45.39 | Estes2 | This is the end of my dmesg... i'd like to know why it ran out of memory and had to kill mysql... the server has 1GB or sdram... http://rafb.net/paste/results/EdKXJP65.html |
| 14:45.45 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 14:45.48 | abrotman | bah |
| 14:45.53 | abrotman | RickTux: #debiansparc |
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| 14:46.03 | xjp | lol, EdKXJP65.html |
| 14:46.07 | bobw_ | fireba11, i have a server with the ip of 192.168.220.7, dishing out IP's for a bunch of PC's on a 192.168.200.0/24 network |
| 14:46.09 | RickTux | abrotman: thx, sorry for bother you |
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| 14:46.19 | abrotman | RickTux: it's ok .. but hopefully they'd know more :) |
| 14:46.20 | abrotman | damn ! |
| 14:46.23 | Sebbb | yeah it has SELinux default |
| 14:46.35 | bobw_ | fireba11, but it dosent seem to be distrobuting leases for the right network |
| 14:46.37 | antgel | bobw_: think you need dhcp relay. don't know how it works |
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| 14:46.59 | RickTux | abrotman: no-one on #debiansparc :-( |
| 14:47.00 | abrotman | RickTux: no? |
| 14:47.03 | abrotman | ~sparc |
| 14:47.04 | apt | [sparc] the name of Sun's line of microprocessors, or a risc processor |
| 14:47.07 | abrotman | @sparc |
| 14:47.08 | ravenbird_ | rumour has it, sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html, Type make vmlinux (not kernel, bzImage, lilo, anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with ... |
| 14:47.11 | abrotman | nice |
| 14:47.13 | Stabilisator | ahh thank you -> setterm -powersave off |
| 14:47.15 | fireba11 | bobw_: should not be a problem .. jsut set the subnet in /etc/dhcp3/chspd.conf |
| 14:47.15 | abrotman | ravenbird_: tell me about sparc |
| 14:47.27 | abrotman | ravenbird_: ? |
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| 14:47.45 | Aspirine | where to buy a MB for the sparc cpu? |
| 14:47.49 | bobw_ | fireba11, i did |
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| 14:48.00 | RickTux | abrotman: tha page cannot be found |
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| 14:48.08 | abrotman | RickTux: ah .. it's #debian-sparc :) |
| 14:48.11 | abrotman | RickTux: sorry about that |
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| 14:48.17 | RickTux | abrotman: no prob |
| 14:48.23 | abrotman | RickTux: not many people there though |
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| 14:48.31 | Pita | What's a good mail server to put on my Debian box? |
| 14:48.38 | jharrisonwk | any ideas why a slave bind server wont refresh zone data after the serial number on the master is incremented? |
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| 14:49.03 | jharrisonwk | however when I delete the slaves records and restart the server it transfers everything fine |
| 14:49.03 | RickTux | abrotman: i see |
| 14:49.07 | RickTux | abrotman: :-) |
| 14:49.10 | bobw_ | fireba11, so where do i need to put my machines subnet and mask, as opposed to the lease subnet and mask? |
| 14:49.17 | pablob | Pita: like postfix? |
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| 14:49.58 | Ronin | Pita: qmail although some have problems with it, postfix, exim, heck some use and like sendmail |
| 14:49.59 | abrotman | RickTux: did you use a daily or the sarge installer ? |
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| 14:50.14 | Pita | ok |
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| 14:50.22 | RickTux | abrotman: sarge installer |
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| 14:50.39 | abrotman | RickTux: you at least glanced at the install guide .. right? :) |
| 14:50.42 | RickTux | abrotman: i get "cramfs: wrong magic" |
| 14:50.56 | RickTux | abrotman: of course, no explanation about my error |
| 14:50.57 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Maybe you don't have the "notify yes" statement in the Master's configuration? |
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| 14:51.07 | RickTux | abrotman: i found a bug but declared solved |
| 14:51.09 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: notify is suppose to be on by default |
| 14:51.14 | abrotman | RickTux: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/03/msg00428.html |
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| 14:51.30 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: and I see notify send and receives in the logs on both master and slave server |
| 14:51.32 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Not in my experience. |
| 14:51.34 | RickTux | abrotman: already read, no work |
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| 14:52.12 | abrotman | RickTux: next stop .. #debian-boot :) |
| 14:52.21 | fireba11 | bobw_: i got a subnet defined there .. with nameservers, router etc... it takes adresses from that network |
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| 14:52.33 | abrotman | RickTux: if i still had a sparc .. i'd try it :) |
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| 14:52.40 | hobon | Hi, I'm running debian unstable, and am wondering how to test for usb devices? |
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| 14:52.47 | abrotman | lsusb ? |
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| 14:52.55 | KimHansen | What is the normal extension to use for a tcpdump-file ? |
| 14:53.04 | hobon | thanks abrotman |
| 14:53.36 | abrotman | hobon: not sure what kind of test you mean |
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| 14:53.41 | Shadur | KimHansen: unix doesn't give a damn about extensions. |
| 14:53.42 | abrotman | KimHansen: i don't think there is one |
| 14:53.49 | antgel | hobon: you can't dust for vomit |
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| 14:54.03 | lhirgi | i use debian woody and kde doesnt appear on the top of the screen and there is garbage on the bottom. how can i resolve this problem? |
| 14:54.08 | hobon | well lsusb found it, am now tring to configure the usb adsl modem with it |
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| 14:54.14 | abrotman | oh jeez |
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| 14:54.26 | KimHansen | Shadur: I care about them, it is easyer to recognice files if I use extensions |
| 14:54.31 | abrotman | !punish the person who invented usb network devices |
| 14:54.32 | hobon | with it, i mean with adsl/pppoe configuartion tool |
| 14:54.41 | hobon | oh no |
| 14:54.47 | bob2 | hah |
| 14:54.49 | RickTux | abrotman: i'm trying to ask someone there but no-one is talking.. :-( |
| 14:54.54 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: well it makes no difference |
| 14:55.11 | bob2 | hobon: lsusb finds anything pysically connected, regardless of whether it has a driver or not |
| 14:55.14 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: it still does not work and I still see the same sent notify/received notify in the logs |
| 14:55.16 | abrotman | RickTux: in which channel ? |
| 14:55.23 | RickTux | abrotman: debian-boot |
| 14:55.24 | bob2 | hobon: usb adsl devices are going to require crappy out-of-tree drivers |
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| 14:55.27 | llama32 | if i want to pretend Helvetica is available but make it use eg FreeSans, how do i do that? |
| 14:55.31 | abrotman | RickTux: they might be napping :) .. give them a bit |
| 14:55.54 | hobon | bob2: grooooovy. |
| 14:55.55 | abrotman | RickTux: is it for a server? |
| 14:56.05 | Roldyx | i need install cpanel but it is propietary, y need install soft free |
| 14:56.10 | Roldyx | i need install cpanel but it is propietary, i need install soft free |
| 14:56.12 | lhirgi | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.19 | RickTux | abrotman: for a WS |
| 14:56.23 | RickTux | abrotman: sunblade 150 |
| 14:56.31 | abrotman | RickTux: you could try a daily .. but it owuld install debian/testing .. not debian/stable |
| 14:56.36 | RickTux | abrotman: i think i'll try with daily installer |
| 14:56.42 | stew | lhirgi: have you considered upgrading to sarge, (the current stable release)? |
| 14:56.46 | abrotman | RickTux: check here for current issues http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstallerToday |
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| 14:56.54 | RickTux | abrotman: anyway I was planning to use testing/unstable |
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| 14:57.03 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Are the logs showing errors? |
| 14:57.09 | abrotman | RickTux: ah ok .. the issuesToday .. does show an issue for sparc |
| 14:57.15 | bob2 | Roldyx: a) your question makes no sense, b) www.cpanel.com |
| 14:57.18 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: no |
| 14:57.46 | lhirgi | stew: yes, but i dont like the name "sarge" very much. you are surely right. |
| 14:57.47 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: So the notifications are being sent to the right IP/hosts? |
| 14:58.14 | fireba11 | lhirgi: wait for etch then :-) |
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| 14:58.30 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: yes it appears so |
| 14:58.42 | stew | lhirgi: ok, forget sarge. have you considered upgrading from oldstable to stable? |
| 14:59.01 | Roldyx | bob2, where is the licency? |
| 14:59.07 | tgwj | anyone know a good guide on how to install gnome from source if it is already installed via dpkg/apt without uninstalling gnome ? |
| 14:59.23 | bob2 | tgwj: use jhbuild to install it to /usr/local |
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| 14:59.39 | bob2 | Roldyx: if you want cpanel, you need to pay for it |
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| 14:59.53 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Ok, so the master comes up/uses and incremented zone file, sends a notify to the slave. Does the Slave acknowledge the notifcation? |
| 14:59.55 | RickTux | abrotman: maybe I'm getting blind... I cannot find the daily installer for sparc :-) |
| 15:00.12 | Roldyx | bob2, well, i cant pay |
| 15:00.14 | abrotman | RickTux: another option is to try the floppies |
| 15:00.28 | abrotman | RickTux: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/sparc/current/ |
| 15:00.29 | Roldyx | bob2, do you know a similar software? |
| 15:00.34 | bob2 | Roldyx: no |
| 15:00.39 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: yes the slave acknowledges that it received the notification |
| 15:00.45 | bob2 | Roldyx: learning to actually admin a machine is a lot less hassle |
| 15:00.48 | llama32 | what package is Helvetica in? |
| 15:00.59 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: But the transfer never actually takes place? |
| 15:01.00 | abrotman | RickTux: look at debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 15:01.04 | RickTux | abrotman: do you think in that version the FS is included? |
| 15:01.06 | cbr | is there a possibility that KDE 3.5beta will be in debian unstable/experimental? |
| 15:01.08 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: right |
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| 15:01.19 | Roldyx | bob2, its not for me, it is for a client |
| 15:01.32 | abrotman | RickTux: you mean cramfs ?.. probably .. but i have better luck with the floppies for some stuff i have here(alphas and old i386) |
| 15:01.37 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Permissions on the slave's zone files OK? |
| 15:01.38 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: unless I delete the records from the slave and then restart the server on the slave then the slave will get the zone transfer |
| 15:01.38 | bob2 | Roldyx: then they should pay for it |
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| 15:01.57 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: -rw------- 1 bind bind |
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| 15:02.34 | dimir | Hey hey. Who knows why and when is apt is storing packages in cache/atp/archives with % sings in filenames? Like: /var/cache/apt/archives/zlib1g_1%3a1.2.2-4.sarge.2_i386.deb |
| 15:02.35 | Roldyx | bob2, of course, but my client want that i install a similar software |
| 15:02.46 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: That's the way mine are too. |
| 15:02.59 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: What about the directory. |
| 15:03.01 | bob2 | dimir: %3a = : |
| 15:03.09 | bob2 | dimir: for some reason it URL-encodes filenames on disk |
| 15:03.25 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: drwxrwxr-x 2 root bind 80 Sep 16 10:47 bind |
| 15:03.32 | zignig | bob2: bleh! |
| 15:03.41 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Same here. |
| 15:03.44 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 240 Sep 15 15:12 cache |
| 15:03.45 | dimir | bobw_: damn, you're right, thanks! |
| 15:03.53 | dimir | bob2, I mean. |
| 15:03.55 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 336 Sep 15 15:09 var |
| 15:04.06 | bobw_ | dimir, i was like, "What did i do" |
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| 15:04.08 | jharrisonwk | I just dont get it |
| 15:04.19 | jharrisonwk | you update the serial on the master and then the slave should update |
| 15:04.26 | jharrisonwk | there are no firewalls between the two |
| 15:04.30 | dimir | bobw_: sorry ;-) |
| 15:04.40 | jharrisonwk | it makes no sense why the zone transfer should not take place |
| 15:04.57 | RickTux | abrotman: ok, i'm burning the iso |
| 15:04.58 | bob2 | zignig: blehlo! |
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| 15:05.16 | bob2 | jharrisonwk: your logs on the master say it happens, but the slaves see nothing at all? |
| 15:05.21 | abrotman | RickTux: good luck .. and don't forget that issue [1 Aug 05] sparc netboot image needs to be passed ramdisk_size=16000 to boot the 2.4 kernel properly |
| 15:05.31 | jharrisonwk | bob2: the slave sees the notify fine |
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| 15:05.38 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Here's my conf for one of my slaves: |
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| 15:05.45 | zignig | bob2: what's the go? still groovin ? |
| 15:05.51 | ScatterBrain | zone "bmcgregor.org" { |
| 15:05.51 | ScatterBrain | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.51 | ScatterBrain | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.51 | ScatterBrain | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.51 | ScatterBrain | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.52 | ScatterBrain | }; |
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| 15:05.55 | jharrisonwk | in debian bind only logs to /var/log/syslog right? |
| 15:06.02 | bob2 | jharrisonwk: no, daemon.log |
| 15:06.05 | jharrisonwk | cause I cannot find bind logs anywhere else |
| 15:06.08 | bob2 | jharrisonwk: what isnt working then? |
| 15:06.26 | jharrisonwk | bob2: I update the serial on the master but the slave does not update |
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| 15:06.34 | dimir | bob2: goddamn. so, like, maybe you know straight from the head some app which is translating URL-encoding to ascii? |
| 15:06.37 | RickTux | abrotman: what is the ramdisk_size default value in that cvase? |
| 15:06.39 | RickTux | case |
| 15:06.57 | zignig | jharrisonwk: from the slave try 'dig AXFR <zone> @<master_IP>' |
| 15:06.57 | abrotman | RickTux: no idea .. but i'd at least try what it tells you :) |
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| 15:07.18 | zignig | jharrisonwk: if you get a transfer failed then the master config is borked |
| 15:07.19 | bob2 | zignig: same ol', same ol'. how's the west coast? |
| 15:07.42 | caphuso | dimir: perl -le '$_ = shift; s/%([[:xdigit:]]{2})/pack "C", hex($1)/eg; print' |
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| 15:07.55 | zignig | bob2: further away from john W howard than you , thank goodness. |
| 15:07.57 | jharrisonwk | zignig: the dig transfers work |
| 15:08.02 | jharrisonwk | zignig: ive tried it before |
| 15:08.05 | zignig | jharrisonwk: hmmmm. |
| 15:08.06 | bob2 | zignig: hah, yeah |
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| 15:08.11 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 15:08.16 | bob2 | dimir: hah, what caphuso said if I knew more perl |
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| 15:08.27 | finley | i have one machine with IPs _only_ in /etc/exports, but those get translated to hostnames in /var/lib/nfs/etab. Why? How do I prevent it? |
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| 15:08.31 | bob2 | dimir: otoh, : is probably the only url-encoded char in those filenames |
| 15:08.35 | solemnwarning | last time i installed mbmon i could /etc/init.d/mbmon start to open port 411 for mbmon |
| 15:08.35 | stew | jharrisonwk: do you get the new serial number on the axfr? |
| 15:08.36 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: I assume you have an "allow-transfer" statement on the master, right? |
| 15:08.38 | jharrisonwk | I have this in the deamon.log |
| 15:08.39 | zignig | jharrisonwk: the slave is not picking up the new zone ? |
| 15:08.45 | solemnwarning | but this time /etc/init.d/mbmon isnt there |
| 15:08.49 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: hhmmmm |
| 15:08.51 | solemnwarning | what should i do to get it? |
| 15:08.55 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: I think so let me check |
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| 15:09.07 | zignig | ScatterBrain: that is what the AXFR commands does ;) |
| 15:09.10 | bob2 | ScatterBrain: dig axfr won't work if transers aren't enabled |
| 15:09.14 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: yes I sure do |
| 15:09.29 | dimir | caphuso: will try that, thanks |
| 15:09.32 | zignig | bob2: my auto debian box is down to 18 min. |
| 15:09.35 | dimir | bob2: I assume that, yes. |
| 15:09.36 | jharrisonwk | Sep 28 10:55:30 web1 named[6274]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 |
| 15:09.37 | jharrisonwk | Sep 28 10:55:30 web1 named[6274]: command channel listening on ::1#953 |
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| 15:09.42 | jharrisonwk | thats in daemon.log |
| 15:09.42 | zone17 | Hi, how do I set cron to run every second hour? "* /2 * * * " was my idea, but doesn't seem to work. |
| 15:09.43 | ScatterBrain | bob2: I didn't see the AXFR success. sorry. |
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| 15:09.45 | jharrisonwk | does that mean anything? |
| 15:09.46 | zignig | bob2: complete with packages and setup out of ldap and configs from svn. |
| 15:10.01 | stew | jharrisonwk: 953 is for rndc |
| 15:10.05 | jharrisonwk | zignig: yes that is correct the slave does not pick up the zone updates frmo the master |
| 15:10.11 | bob2 | jharrisonwk: that's unrelated to axfr |
| 15:10.12 | zignig | zone17: 0 */2 * * * |
| 15:10.14 | spayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.14 | bob2 | zignig: oh, wow |
| 15:10.25 | bob2 | zignig: fast disks, I bet |
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| 15:10.30 | stew | jharrisonwk: did you reload the zone since you changed the serial number |
| 15:10.41 | jharrisonwk | stew: what do you mean reload? |
| 15:10.50 | jharrisonwk | stew: I have restarted the master server a couple times |
| 15:10.52 | solemnwarning | what should i do to get it? |
| 15:10.53 | RickTux | abrotman: shit, it boots with 2.6 kernel but got "Remapping the kernel... Fast Instructions Access MMU miss" |
| 15:10.55 | stew | jharrisonwk: either restart bind or rndc reload zone ; or rndc reload |
| 15:10.56 | stew | ok |
| 15:10.58 | zignig | bob2: nope , ultra minimal packages. ( no "standard" install ) |
| 15:11.02 | RickTux | abrotman: what the hell is it? |
| 15:11.05 | jharrisonwk | stew: but according to the book bind should see the mtime change on the zone file |
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| 15:11.27 | jharrisonwk | stew: of course I was not into waiting for the master to see the mtime change so I restarted bind myself |
| 15:11.30 | zignig | jharrisonwk: are you letting TCP dns through your firewall ? |
| 15:11.36 | abrotman | RickTux: holy wow .. your computer hates debian :) |
| 15:11.38 | zignig | jharrisonwk: not UDP. |
| 15:11.46 | jharrisonwk | zignig: there is no firewall between the two servers |
| 15:11.46 | abrotman | RickTux: i assume it's not booting correctly? |
| 15:11.49 | bob2 | jharrisonwk: reload is plenty, you don't need to restart |
| 15:11.52 | abrotman | RickTux: did you try a 2.4 ? |
| 15:12.15 | zignig | jharrisonwk: does the master log show a transfer request ? |
| 15:12.20 | zone17 | zignig, are you sure its 0 at minutes and not *? |
| 15:12.29 | RickTux | abrotman: that's why I hate Sun Machines |
| 15:12.30 | jharrisonwk | also if I delete the slaves zone records and restart the server it WILL do a zone transfer and get the updated records |
| 15:12.37 | RickTux | abrotman: I'm trying right now |
| 15:12.45 | jharrisonwk | zignig: no just notifies from what I can see |
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| 15:12.54 | jharrisonwk | zignig: I have not seen any zone transfer requests |
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| 15:12.58 | zignig | jharrisonwk: just a mo. |
| 15:13.00 | abrotman | RickTux: i love sun mahcines .. can i have yours? :) |
| 15:13.02 | stew | jharrisonwk: when you dig zone SOA @master ; do you see the new serial number? |
| 15:13.08 | RickTux | abrotman: no way |
| 15:13.10 | bob2 | ah-hah |
| 15:13.11 | jharrisonwk | stew: trying |
| 15:13.16 | abrotman | RickTux: oh .. ok :) |
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| 15:13.20 | RickTux | abrotman: neither with 2.4 |
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| 15:13.38 | resiak | Where does one set up what's on tty1-12? I can't remember offhand. |
| 15:13.47 | abrotman | RickTux: i think you're giong to either have to email the debian-boot mailing list or wait in #debian-boot |
| 15:13.48 | stew | resiak: inittab? |
| 15:13.50 | petemc | resiak: inittab |
| 15:13.59 | abrotman | RickTux: make sure you tell them you've tried the sarge and a daily .. and neither work |
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| 15:14.08 | resiak | *foreheadslap* Of course. Cheers, stew and petemc. |
| 15:14.12 | zignig | jharrisonwk: AX |
| 15:14.14 | zignig | FR-style IXFR started |
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| 15:14.26 | jharrisonwk | stew: yes I see the new serial |
| 15:14.34 | zignig | jharrisonwk: should be in your logs if it is requesting the zone. |
| 15:14.42 | jharrisonwk | the new serial is 2005092801 |
| 15:14.48 | RickTux | abrotman: ok thx for your help |
| 15:14.51 | jharrisonwk | the old one is 2005091602 |
| 15:15.02 | abrotman | RickTux: sorry i couldn't help more .. this is what i get for giving away my sparc box :) |
| 15:15.18 | abrotman | (though it was ... uber-old) |
| 15:15.26 | RickTux | abrotman: are there SILO options to bypass this prob? |
| 15:15.30 | jharrisonwk | I have AXFR started in the log files |
| 15:15.41 | RickTux | abrotman: i mean, something that force to not use cramfs |
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| 15:16.02 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: That means that the transfers are starting. |
| 15:16.16 | abrotman | RickTux: not that i'm aware of .. |
| 15:16.17 | zignig | that was fun to work out WTF was going on. |
| 15:16.19 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: but the serial on the slave is not updated |
| 15:16.24 | zignig | *public |
| 15:16.25 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: and that log is because of the dig I did |
| 15:16.31 | abrotman | RickTux: as another option(like you need more chances to explain this) .. there is a #sparc |
| 15:16.40 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: but you did that from the slave, right? |
| 15:16.53 | abrotman | zignig: you're a dork :) |
| 15:16.54 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: yes |
| 15:17.08 | abrotman | RickTux: i'd say #debian-boot and #debian-sparc are your best bets though |
| 15:17.09 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Weird. |
| 15:17.17 | zignig | abrotman: I didn't do it. |
| 15:17.24 | abrotman | zignig: i know |
| 15:17.39 | zignig | abrotman: :P GEEK , not dork :P |
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| 15:19.51 | RickTux | abrotman: thx |
| 15:20.46 | abrotman | RickTux: i'm watching in -boot :) |
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| 15:22.14 | solemnwarning | last time i installed mbmon i could /etc/init.d/mbmon start to open port 411 for mbmon |
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| 15:22.16 | solemnwarning | but this time /etc/init.d/mbmon isnt there |
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| 15:22.21 | solemnwarning | what should i do to get it? |
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| 15:22.56 | jim | solemnwarning: try purging/reinstalling |
| 15:23.01 | solemnwarning | tried |
| 15:23.10 | jim | -purge-? |
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| 15:23.17 | solemnwarning | --purge |
| 15:23.24 | solemnwarning | i did: |
| 15:23.36 | solemnwarning | apt-get --purge remove mbmon && apt-get install mbmon |
| 15:23.48 | jim | hmm, then the package you purged doesn't have the startup script? |
| 15:23.58 | solemnwarning | no startup script |
| 15:24.02 | solemnwarning | no config file either |
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| 15:24.53 | jim | you could pull the deb apart (and the data.tar.gz inside) and verify that it doesn't exist in the tarball |
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| 15:25.49 | jim | you could also do dpkg -S etc/init.d/mbmon |
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| 15:26.38 | Roxport | hello |
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| 15:27.13 | Roxport | anyone here? |
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| 15:27.45 | Daveman | -_- |
| 15:27.57 | valdyn_ | !test Roxport |
| 15:27.58 | abrotman | Roxport: about 725 people/bots/lurkers |
| 15:27.59 | jim | I'm here... |
| 15:28.12 | jim | everyone else is -there-.... |
| 15:28.13 | rebodeb | hallo zusammen, kann mir jemand sagen, wie man per bootp einen rechner booten kann? |
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| 15:28.31 | valdyn_ | !de |
| 15:28.33 | valdyn_ | ~de |
| 15:28.34 | apt | somebody said de was deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 15:28.38 | kattbjorn | i have built libapache2-mod-php5 from source, having modified the debian/rules file to include the built-in form of GD instead of the GD shared module. i used dpkg-buildpackage and then installed the result with dpkg -i and it worked fine: i am now running my modified libapache2-mod-php5. I now want to hack in the GD source and rebuild frequently, but I don't really want the 20-minute builds dpkg-buildpackage gives me. how do i chang |
| 15:28.38 | kattbjorn | e my procedure to just build the one thing i care about: the apache2 php5 module? |
| 15:29.06 | bwana147_ | rebodeb: you may get more answers if you speak English here :-) |
| 15:29.08 | kattbjorn | i should clarify: i built "php5" with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 15:29.16 | rebodeb | hi all, can anybody tell, how I can boot with bootp? |
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| 15:29.44 | jim | kattbjorn: split it out as its own package |
| 15:29.51 | kattbjorn | further clarification: this gives me a dozen .deb files. |
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| 15:30.35 | kattbjorn | jim: okay, can you point me to instructions for doing that that don't assume i know anything about debian but can handle the fact that i've been writing code for 20 years? |
| 15:30.50 | KimHansen | Shouldn't it be "... sie sind manchmal ..." instead of "... die sind manchmal .." ?" |
| 15:31.02 | jim | it would build-depend on (among other things) something like apache2-dev |
| 15:31.20 | Roxport | a newbie has install question... |
| 15:31.20 | JediMaster | I used to have apache2 on a machine with php4, but I've removed it and put original apache on there (long story) , but I can't get php4 to install itself to apache, it still has the libs/config for apache2 though, any ideas? Ive tried --purge and reinstalling |
| 15:31.41 | jim | kattbjorn: there is a packaging manual |
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| 15:32.38 | hutgyrr | anybody burn a dvd recently here. how long did it take. It seems to take about 45mins here to burn about 3.5gb . Is this correct |
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| 15:32.39 | jim | kattbjorn: but you should also look thru apache2 and module packages that are produced by building the apache2 package(s) and also those that are separate |
| 15:32.53 | kattbjorn | okay. i see that as part of dpkg-buildpackage that it reconfigures php four times to build four variants. i suppose what would be the simplest thing for me to do would be to tell it to stop doing that, i just want the libapache2-mod-php5 result. any thoughts on restricting what dpkg-buildpackage produces? |
| 15:33.31 | Roxport | "NO ROM BASIC" appears when i try for the first time to install Debian business card i386 booty |
| 15:33.35 | Roxport | boot i mean. |
| 15:33.36 | jim | hmm, debian/rules is a makefile |
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| 15:34.09 | jim | so maybe the targets for the individual packages are in debian/rules |
| 15:34.09 | kattbjorn | jim: good point. |
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| 15:34.17 | cahoot | kattbjorn: maybe this page can be of help: http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/?page=debcustomize |
| 15:34.57 | kattbjorn | cahoot: this looks interesting. |
| 15:35.18 | jim | look at www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 15:35.46 | jim | I think that's developers corner, and the packaging manual and lots of other stuff are linked from there |
| 15:35.47 | valdyn_ | hutgyrr: it depends on your burner |
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| 15:35.58 | valdyn_ | hutgyrr: 45 mins is probably 2.3x speed |
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| 15:36.44 | valdyn_ | hutgyrr: modern burners are alot faster anyway |
| 15:37.07 | jim | anyways tho... very best of luck to you... maybe with all that exp you'd consider helping debian from time to time |
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| 15:37.14 | djay | hi |
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| 15:38.00 | hutgyrr | valdyn_: max speed is 4x on the drive |
| 15:38.06 | jim | also, you might look into a different web toolkit, Arsdigita Community System (defunct) and openacs (current) |
| 15:38.08 | hutgyrr | thats the higest they go I think |
| 15:38.12 | hutgyrr | *highest |
| 15:38.13 | valdyn_ | hutgyrr: maybe 4x max read |
| 15:38.27 | kattbjorn | cahoot: yes, this is information that would have been exactly what i was looking for this morning. i figured most of it out on my own, though. |
| 15:38.34 | valdyn_ | hutgyrr: assuming that was its maximum write speed, then that speed wasnt used when burning |
| 15:38.40 | RiverRat | Is there any chance I could get someone to paste their /etc/inittab for me to peak at? |
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| 15:38.47 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 15:38.52 | djay | hej, anyone ever had trouble with grub hanging on "loading stage1.5 plz wait..and then nothing ??" |
| 15:38.54 | grendal_prime | nfs through openvpn |
| 15:39.10 | jim | RiverRat: mostly everyone's inittab is the same |
| 15:39.14 | kattbjorn | jim: i think your reminder that rules is a makefile might be the key. |
| 15:39.19 | kattbjorn | thanks, folks. you've been helpful |
| 15:39.22 | valdyn_ | djay: guess that means grub isnt finding the files it uses on disk |
| 15:39.25 | hutgyrr | is there any way to find out the max burning speed w/out documentation? |
| 15:39.26 | grendal_prime | i have the openvpn working..but i cant seem to get nfs ...actually the pormapper to work throught he tunnel |
| 15:39.38 | RiverRat | jim: I'm looking for differences in distributions. :) |
| 15:39.42 | jim | RiverRat: assuming you run debian, you have it right there :) |
| 15:39.43 | grendal_prime | burn something in k3b |
| 15:39.54 | grendal_prime | and set speed for auto |
| 15:39.56 | valdyn_ | djay: grub is 2 parts at least, 1 on the mbr, one in your filesystem |
| 15:40.02 | jim | !find inittab |
| 15:40.04 | djay | valdyn_, cant be |
| 15:40.11 | hutgyrr | well I set speed to max |
| 15:40.13 | valdyn_ | djay: why cant that be? |
| 15:40.29 | RiverRat | jim: Any chance you could be nice to a fellow GNU/Linux user that uses Gentoo? |
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| 15:40.35 | bob2 | ha ha ha |
| 15:40.38 | djay | valdyn_, well its just after reinstallation of knoppix ... |
| 15:40.39 | bob2 | xbm-x[A]: turn that off |
| 15:40.44 | abrotman | RiverRat: they're all pretty much the same unless you do something to it |
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| 15:40.51 | abrotman | ~tell xbm-x[A] about away |
| 15:40.52 | grendal_prime | RiverRat, gento lover |
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| 15:40.54 | valdyn_ | djay: so? |
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| 15:40.59 | djay | so grub is filled with detection, and the menu.lst is good |
| 15:41.04 | bob2 | surely with the awesome support in #gentoo, someone can show you theirs |
| 15:41.10 | djay | so i dont see whats wrong :/ |
| 15:41.10 | bob2 | xbm-x: turn that off |
| 15:41.23 | RiverRat | abrotman: There was an update to Gentoo's that I don't agree with and I'd like to have another example. |
| 15:41.26 | valdyn_ | djay: whatever 'filled' with detecton might mean, its not finding your stage1_5 file |
| 15:41.29 | xbm-x | just testing |
| 15:41.33 | xbm-x | bye |
| 15:41.34 | grendal_prime | gentoo...= "ill show you mine if you show me yours" distro |
| 15:41.38 | jim | xbm-x: you're posting away messages on the channel... they want you to turn it off |
| 15:42.22 | djay | valdyn_, ok ..so i should reboot on livecd, mount my root, check if stage1_5 file is in /boot/grub/ |
| 15:42.32 | djay | and then ..what if all seems alright ? :) |
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| 15:42.40 | RiverRat | Is there a cvs that I could look in for the /etc/inittab ? |
| 15:42.41 | valdyn_ | djay: i cant give support for knoppix, i dont use it, i dont know it |
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| 15:42.47 | abrotman | !find etc/inittab |
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| 15:43.02 | valdyn_ | djay: beside that it would be offtopic |
| 15:43.05 | jim | !info sysvinit |
| 15:43.07 | grendal_prime | abrotman, ever tunnel nfs |
| 15:43.08 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 15:43.16 | nksen | what was that app to make screenshot from commandline? |
| 15:43.22 | djay | valdyn_, no problem..but knoppix is debian based ... :p |
| 15:43.33 | jim | ~info sysvinit |
| 15:43.36 | abrotman | stupid dpkg |
| 15:43.43 | abrotman | grendal_prime: no .. i'm sane :) |
| 15:43.43 | valdyn_ | ~based on debian |
| 15:43.45 | apt | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 15:43.45 | jim | gone dpkg |
| 15:43.46 | RiverRat | !find /etc/inittab |
| 15:43.50 | djay | i just reinstalled my dual boot and 2 os almost ten times now ...and still same error and i have no clue of whats wrong :p |
| 15:43.55 | abrotman | RiverRat: moment .. dpkg is ded |
| 15:43.56 | abrotman | dead |
| 15:44.08 | grendal_prime | poor dpkg |
| 15:44.09 | jim | RiverRat: it's in package sysvinit |
| 15:44.12 | valdyn_ | djay: and ozone is based on oxygen, still i'd rather not breath it |
| 15:44.15 | Roxport | BIOS question: advanced cmos setup -> what does C000, 16k, shadow mean? there are other values there too. |
| 15:44.16 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Did you get your slave updating right? |
| 15:44.23 | grendal_prime | its times like these we realize how important bots like that really are to us |
| 15:44.24 | djay | valdyn_, lol :) |
| 15:44.26 | dimir | caphuso: thanks, that worked! \o/ |
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| 15:44.49 | abrotman | RiverRat: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.ds1-1_i386.deb ... ar x <pkgname> .. look for the file |
| 15:44.57 | JediMaster | hmm how come after an "apt-get --purge remove apache2" apache2 is still running and all the files and config are still there, yet apt thinks it's uninstalled |
| 15:45.05 | JediMaster | I can reinstall it and uninstall it again, and it's still working |
| 15:45.12 | abrotman | RiverRat: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=sysvinit&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 15:45.16 | djay | ok so |
| 15:45.29 | djay | lets see whats wring with stage1.5 |
| 15:45.31 | KimHansen | JediMaster: Someone installed apache from source? |
| 15:45.32 | djay | :/ |
| 15:45.35 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: no |
| 15:45.35 | valdyn_ | JediMaster: apache2 is just a metapackage as far as i know |
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| 15:45.54 | jim | ~info sysvinit sarge |
| 15:45.55 | RiverRat | jim: Thanks but my apt-get is on the fritz. Thanks much abrotman. :) |
| 15:45.57 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: ive taken the slave and thrown it off the roof of the building |
| 15:46.01 | JediMaster | KimHansen: I don't think so, it's a fresh install an engineer just did on a co-lo machine from a debian net-inst cd |
| 15:46.18 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: That usually helps... |
| 15:46.30 | jim | RiverRat: but your web browser/wget is not :) you just get the .deb file and pull it apart with ar |
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| 15:46.32 | valdyn_ | JediMaster: so you want to run dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep apache2 |
| 15:46.34 | jharrisonwk | ScatterBrain: yes I find it calms me |
| 15:46.43 | valdyn_ | !remove apache2 |
| 15:46.47 | valdyn_ | ~remove apache2 |
| 15:46.50 | abrotman | RiverRat: use wget |
| 15:46.57 | RiverRat | Thanks. I got it now. |
| 15:47.04 | NP_complete | how to purge my worng builded kernel? |
| 15:47.06 | abrotman | valdyn_: remove apache2-common or whatever |
| 15:47.12 | valdyn_ | apt, remove apache2 is remove apache2-common |
| 15:47.14 | apt | valdyn_: okay |
| 15:47.15 | valdyn_ | abrotman: aye |
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| 15:47.49 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: Does the named daemon on slave stay running after a failed transfer? |
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| 15:48.12 | Roxport | When i'm trying to install, bootin' from cd-rom, i get NO ROM BASIC on the screen. one beep. i got first boot order in BIOS set to CD-ROM |
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| 15:48.24 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: it's almost like the daemon dies just before it write the zone files |
| 15:48.36 | ScatterBrain | jharrisonwk: or something like that. |
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| 15:48.46 | Levi- | why is it when I install mysql-server exim4 is coming with it? and when I remove exim4 it removes mysql-server? |
| 15:49.06 | valdyn_ | Levi-: you need an MTA, but you can install any other MTA too |
| 15:49.17 | Levi- | I'm using qmail |
| 15:49.26 | Levi- | and I want to completely remove exim4 |
| 15:49.27 | valdyn_ | Levi-: does dpkg know about that? |
| 15:49.31 | Roxport | I think I made my CD-R wrong....nevermind. |
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| 15:49.37 | valdyn_ | ~equivs |
| 15:49.39 | apt | well, equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell dpkg you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/* |
| 15:49.39 | abrotman | ~tell Levi- about equivs |
| 15:49.49 | abrotman | ~qmail |
| 15:49.51 | apt | . URL: http://www.qmail.org/ |
| 15:49.58 | abrotman | apt: that was horrible |
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| 15:50.19 | jahi | Hi, i have a *.deb, how can i install it? |
| 15:50.26 | djay | cd grub |
| 15:50.27 | hutgyrr | whats the best way to search for a file across my entire system. Ive tried grep but it seems to hang |
| 15:50.39 | djay | oops wrong keyboard |
| 15:51.01 | NP_complete | how to remove my worng builded kernel package? |
| 15:51.04 | bob2 | hutgyrr: be more specific |
| 15:51.09 | bob2 | jahi: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb |
| 15:51.15 | Pfated | hutgyrr: updatedb; locate filename |
| 15:51.16 | bob2 | jahi: in practice, tho, you very rarely need to do that |
| 15:51.20 | thingfish | jahi: dpkg -i foo |
| 15:51.24 | jahi | ah thx |
| 15:51.25 | KimHansen | hutgyrr: Do you need to find a file with som special content or a special name? |
| 15:51.45 | hutgyrr | I installed a program and i cant find the config file. Its not where its supossed to be |
| 15:51.53 | hutgyrr | config.pl is the name of the file |
| 15:51.54 | nkuttler | hutgyrr: dpkg -L package |
| 15:51.59 | brynjarh | Debian uses "en_US ISO-8859-1" as the default locale(that's what it's called right?) right? If I install Debian Stable, upgrade it to Testing, change the default locale to "en_US.UTF-8 UTF8" but also generate the "en_US ISO-8859-1" and install a GNOME desktop enviorment on top of that, would there be any known problems I might expirience? |
| 15:52.01 | jahi | bob2 and uninstalling is pkdg -u foo.deb? |
| 15:52.02 | Pfated | hutgyrr: updatedb; locate filename |
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| 15:52.20 | hutgyrr | what does the updatedb part do Pfated? |
| 15:52.26 | bob2 | jahi: -r |
| 15:52.30 | jahi | ok thx |
| 15:52.37 | nkuttler | hutgyrr: man updatedb :) |
| 15:52.40 | Pfated | I don't recall the exact explanation, but it... heck, can someone else explain it? |
| 15:52.48 | bob2 | hutgyrr: find / -name config.pl |
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| 15:53.19 | hutgyrr | bob2: Thanks |
| 15:53.23 | dannyp | is gcc/cpp broken in testing? Installing both doesn't seem to install the appropriate cc1 |
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| 15:53.42 | asuffield | updatedb basically runs find / and saves the output for later searching |
| 15:53.44 | bob2 | dannyp: install build-essential |
| 15:54.28 | hutgyrr | so it caches it to make future searches faster? |
| 15:54.35 | grendal_prime | man...whats the word......fuck...that is |
| 15:54.47 | KimHansen | hutgyrr: yes, a lot faster |
| 15:54.54 | scarynetworkguy | hutgyrr: It rebuilds the database of what is on your HDD that locate uses to look for files. man locate should explain it. |
| 15:55.32 | grendal_prime | updatedb runs everytime you do anything on redhat systems i know whtat much |
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| 15:55.47 | grendal_prime | sure slows the os down alot |
| 15:56.01 | grendal_prime | sneeze...updatdb runs |
| 15:56.02 | dannyp | bob2: I don't believe that does it, on testing |
| 15:56.11 | win | what is the linux command that is like windows chkdsk? |
| 15:56.14 | grendal_prime | fart...same thing |
| 15:56.26 | nkuttler | win: what does it do? |
| 15:56.33 | asuffield | win: probably /bin/true, but I expect you're looking for fsck |
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| 15:56.48 | grendal_prime | ya fsck i believe |
| 15:56.57 | win | yep fsck |
| 15:57.00 | dannyp | chkdsk, at least back in the days of DOS, would print helpful filesystem statistics as well |
| 15:57.02 | grendal_prime | your are going to find you dont need to do it nearly as often as you do on windows though |
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| 15:57.09 | dannyp | I assume they didn't change it that much over the years |
| 15:57.10 | win | it correct the bad sector right? |
| 15:57.21 | asuffield | dannyp: that's df on unix |
| 15:57.39 | guiss | anyone knows how to get debian installed in those motherboards with sis chipset and unrecognized sata drives? |
| 15:57.47 | dannyp | asuffield: no, I disagree. it would display filesystem statistics beyond free space |
| 15:57.56 | KimHansen | Hah. aptitude doesn't like to uninstall an essential package :) |
| 15:57.57 | asuffield | dannyp: df does pretty much all of them |
| 15:57.57 | dannyp | an equivilent would show things like free inodes |
| 15:58.05 | asuffield | dannyp: df -i |
| 15:58.16 | abrotman | guiss: use a 2.6 kernel ? |
| 15:58.20 | bob2 | dannyp: the whole time I've been using Debian, build-essential has been neccessary to build things |
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| 15:58.55 | dannyp | bob2: Yes. But I think it's broken in testing. |
| 15:58.59 | guiss | abrotman, i am using sarge netinstall with 2.6.8 and doesn't recognizes the driver. the motherboard is an asus k8s-mx |
| 15:59.26 | KimHansen | tune2fs -v can show info about a ext filesystem |
| 15:59.38 | dannyp | bob2: let me phrase it to you this way- what actual package installs /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.1/cc1 ? |
| 15:59.57 | hutgyrr | if you burn a dvd from the command line, can you force it to burn at the maximum speed. What implications could this have, ? |
| 16:00.08 | asuffield | KimHansen: you mean dumpe2fs, but that's hugely more detailed |
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| 16:00.20 | win | cause i have a problem with ghost error "Application error 29004" in linux partition, i have found out that it is because of bad sector, someon suggest HD regenerator, but i prefer native command, fsck should work , right? thx |
| 16:00.38 | wersh | i went to install kplayer, it removed my KDE.. now I goto install again, It brings up alot of stuff about Depending on things. i do apt-get -f install, then try apt-get install kde... dep errors. |
| 16:00.58 | bob2 | ~+find i486-linux-gnu/4.0.1/cc1 |
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| 16:01.45 | brynjarh | Is Debian Testing recommended for general desktop use since it now has security updates? |
| 16:01.55 | KimHansen | asuffield: No, I meant "tune2fs -l dev" |
| 16:01.58 | wersh | http://pb.datafear.com/16 |
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| 16:02.13 | Blissex | brynjarh: NO |
| 16:02.26 | wersh | can anyone help |
| 16:02.31 | thingfish | brynjarh: testing can still be pretty buggy; I wouldn't. |
| 16:02.33 | dannyp | KimHansen: And I'd argue that much more resembles chkdsk than df. Except it's been a long time since I've used dos. |
| 16:02.34 | asuffield | KimHansen: that's a synonym for dumpe2fs -h |
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| 16:02.49 | Blissex | brynjarh: Debian Testing, called Etch, is in the middle of some major ABI transitions, and it is dangerous. |
| 16:03.08 | asuffield | dannyp: all chkdsk ever showed was the same six numbers that df does, modulo vfat weirdness that doesn't apply |
| 16:03.13 | bob2 | !+find i486-linux-gnu/4.0.1/cc1 |
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| 16:03.32 | KimHansen | asuffield: Ok, I had never heard about dumpe2fs |
| 16:03.36 | win | any comment on my last question? thx nkuttler, asuffield and dannyp also |
| 16:03.39 | brynjarh | Blissex, thingfish: hmm, but is there any work being done to make Debian better for desktop use? Cause Stable get's to old and testing and unstable are too unstable. |
| 16:03.57 | antgel | brynjarh: why is stable too old for you? |
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| 16:04.08 | wersh | can anyone help me |
| 16:04.10 | Blissex | brynjarh: Debian Stable, called Sarge, was released only a few weeks ago, and it is pretty current. |
| 16:04.18 | guiss | is there any way to get a 2.6.13 netinstall or put a 2.6.13 on a netinstall i have? |
| 16:04.24 | Shucknet | Any Courier-MTA experts in here? I just sent an e-mail to my new courier-mta based system and it has vanished into thin air. No error message returned, nothing. |
| 16:04.40 | Blissex | brynjarh: perhaps you are thinking of when Woody was the ''stable'' version, and that is indeed too old noawadays. |
| 16:04.45 | antgel | Shucknet: check the mx record |
| 16:05.06 | brynjarh | Blissex, antgel, it's not to old at the moment but it will get old, it wont be kept up to date with current software development except security updates. |
| 16:05.11 | ice_1963 | i'm running sid |
| 16:05.15 | Shucknet | antgel: I'm sending it directly to the machine, not the domain. |
| 16:05.18 | NP_complete | If I want to make my kernel initrd, which modules must contain as * ?? |
| 16:05.26 | Blissex | brynjarh: yes, thats exaqctly the deal. Thats how Debian works. |
| 16:05.37 | Blissex | brynjarh: thats intentional that is. |
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| 16:06.19 | Blissex | brynjarh: if you want six monthly releases, but less support for older stuff, Ubuntu seems a better bet, and it is very similar. |
| 16:06.35 | valdyn_ | NP_complete: why would you want to make your kernel initrd? |
| 16:06.36 | grendal_prime | heheheeh i got it |
| 16:06.39 | Shucknet | oh, this is interesting, the postmaster just got a message saying the mail loops back to itself. I think I might know the problem |
| 16:06.41 | Blissex | Shucknet: look at the logs... |
| 16:06.45 | wersh | kde wont install |
| 16:06.49 | grendal_prime | this is soo.....cool...hold on......yep...i got a hard on |
| 16:07.06 | resiak | wersh: Are you using Sid and/or Etch? If so, you wait till its fixed. |
| 16:07.10 | petemc | grendal_prime: first time |
| 16:07.11 | resiak | s/its/it's/ |
| 16:07.11 | petemc | ? |
| 16:07.15 | NP_complete | valdyn_ i don't know! i used to make that way a long time ago |
| 16:07.15 | grendal_prime | abrotman, |
| 16:07.30 | grendal_prime | petemc, practically....well first hardon related to vpn |
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| 16:07.36 | wersh | resiak: ? |
| 16:07.38 | antgel | NP_complete: why are you building a kernel? |
| 16:07.39 | Shucknet | Blissex: I think the problem lies somewhere in that I've told this mail it's the MX for a domain, but it isn't yet - it's the replacement |
| 16:07.47 | resiak | wersh: I asked you a question. |
| 16:07.54 | wersh | sid? |
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| 16:08.04 | resiak | wersh: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 16:08.11 | wersh | sarge. |
| 16:08.15 | NP_complete | antgel: To use nvidia, nforce, and optimize it for Athlon |
| 16:08.32 | antgel | NP_complete: please use a kernel image |
| 16:08.35 | valdyn_ | wersh: so, kde refuses to install? what does kde say about that? |
| 16:08.43 | brynjarh | Blissex, okay sounds resonable, I think I'll use stable then. What about a backport repository? Does that mean I can get newer software on to the stable release? Is it known how stable the backport repository is (it exists right? and is unofficial?)? |
| 16:08.45 | wersh | http://pb.datafear.com/16 |
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| 16:08.56 | Blissex | brynjarh: if something very imprecise but reasonable helps you, Debian is a bit like RH Enterprise and Ubuntu is a bit like RH Fedora. |
| 16:09.08 | NP_complete | antgel: If i use a kernel-image i'll have troubles with nvidia |
| 16:09.19 | antgel | brynjarh: usually, one backport is okay. more than one, you're on your own? |
| 16:09.23 | antgel | NP_complete: pray explain |
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| 16:09.29 | grendal_prime | abrotman, I was havving a problem with the iptables blocking the ....well all the ports that are required for nfs to work...portmapper, and whatnot |
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| 16:09.45 | Blissex | brynjarh: there used to be a backports for Woody, I haven't seen much in the way of backports for Sarge as the latter does not really need backports yet. |
| 16:09.57 | NP_complete | what the hell is initrd? |
| 16:10.00 | grendal_prime | was trying to figer out how to open them to just the vpn then realized its using tun0 |
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| 16:10.15 | antgel | NP_complete: if you don't know that there is even more reason why you shouldn't be using a kernel |
| 16:10.17 | Blissex | brynjarh: I am actually using for a couple of things Ubuntu Hoary as the backport source for Sarge :-). It is mostly safe :-). |
| 16:10.20 | resiak | wersh: Can you put your sources.list into a pastebin please? |
| 16:10.26 | valdyn_ | wersh: run 'apt-get update' and paste the whole output on pastebin |
| 16:10.29 | wersh | yeah, hold on |
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| 16:11.00 | valdyn_ | ..nm |
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| 16:11.03 | antgel | Blissex: is it a good idea to recommend that to somebody who doesn't know much about debian? |
| 16:11.09 | grendal_prime | who is using that dist...Ubuntu?? sounds like its doing for debian what madrake does for redhat? |
| 16:11.11 | Shucknet | If I'm sending e-mail directly to a machine, I shouldn't need an MX record in the DNS server, correct? |
| 16:11.24 | dannyp | hrm, perhaps you're right, bob2. Some of my packages got really fubared, and I'm not sure why, but was able to fix it. |
| 16:11.27 | Blissex | antgel: I am not recommending, I am just mentioning it, that;'s why I used smileys :-). |
| 16:11.28 | petemc | Shucknet: an A record would work |
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| 16:11.37 | Shucknet | petemc: ok, I've got that |
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| 16:11.47 | wersh | resiak: http://pb.datafear.com/17 |
| 16:11.48 | Shucknet | but when I send mail to the user at this machine, I get " configuration error: mail loops back to myself " |
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| 16:11.53 | NP_complete | antgel: I need to recompile, ok? and i have did it sometimes |
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| 16:12.01 | grendal_prime | anyway... abrotman i got the nfs working over openvpn now...if your interested i can summerize for ya |
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| 16:12.07 | Dete | indio |
| 16:12.14 | grendal_prime | its really not as crazy as it sounds |
| 16:12.14 | indio | oi carneiro |
| 16:12.15 | petemc | Shucknet: it seems to think it has to send it on elsewhere, rather than deliver it locally |
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| 16:12.22 | Dete | fala dete |
| 16:12.24 | grendal_prime | and actually quite sane |
| 16:12.25 | hutgyrr | can you force the maximum writing speed with growisofs without an implications? |
| 16:12.25 | antgel | NP_complete: from what you told me, you don't need to recompile |
| 16:12.36 | indio | ai dentro |
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| 16:12.38 | Shucknet | petemc: it knows its name... |
| 16:12.38 | thingfish | !br |
| 16:12.43 | Dete | da sua telinha |
| 16:12.46 | Blissex | brynjarh: if it is for work and servers, I'd go with Debian; if it is for home and desktop I'd go with Ubuntu, waiting for Breezy which will be released in 2-3 weeks. |
| 16:12.46 | resiak | wersh: You're using an alioth KDE mirror. you get to pick upt the pieces. Sorry.e |
| 16:12.48 | brynjarh | Blissex, okay I think I'm getting the picture now how Debian works with the whole Stable, Testing, Unstable thing. But it would be cool if Debian would also work on doing something like "Server, Desktop, Testing, Unstable" or something along those lines, cause the requirements for a server are not the same as for a desktop. Ubuntu seams to be doing great work on the Desktop thing but it's getting less compatible with Debian with every release (I |
| 16:12.48 | brynjarh | have heard). |
| 16:12.51 | indio | so da sua |
| 16:12.51 | Shucknet | petemc: let me look at the reply a little deeper here. |
| 16:12.56 | petemc | Shucknet: "knows" it ambiguous |
| 16:12.56 | thingfish | Dete: #debian-br |
| 16:12.59 | petemc | s/it/is/ |
| 16:13.22 | antgel | brynjarh: debian is not interested in being "cool" |
| 16:13.23 | wersh | oh ok |
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| 16:13.25 | Blissex | brynjarh: yes, that has been discussed a lot of times, and it has gotten nowhere. |
| 16:13.29 | Shucknet | petemc: correct. More accurately, Courier-MTA has the hostname set to what it should be |
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| 16:13.34 | Dete | voce e brasileiro |
| 16:13.38 | grendal_prime | thingfish, you fallu de portuguise? |
| 16:13.39 | wersh | so i guess to save me 5283 hours ot my time, I'll just install gentoo. |
| 16:13.41 | mikeX | brynjarh, like ubuntu there are many debian-based distributions, each one fit for a particular task |
| 16:13.51 | thingfish | Dete: no I'm not, but I speak it. |
| 16:13.52 | petemc | Shucknet: i know nothing about courier, but with exim you would put the domain in "local_domains" |
| 16:13.56 | brynjarh | antgel, I'm not really interested in Cool, I'm more interested in having Debian work as a desktop system. |
| 16:14.01 | thingfish | grendal_prime: yes, a little. |
| 16:14.03 | antgel | brynjarh: which it does |
| 16:14.17 | Blissex | brynjarh: the Debian philosophy in practice is: we do _one_ distribution, the stable edition, mostly oriented to business/server uses, and then anybody else is free to use our repositories to put together something with a different orientation. |
| 16:14.28 | grendal_prime | aeo fallu umpuco de portugise |
| 16:14.30 | mikeX | brynjarh, don't you think it's better to provide a broad base and let the use customize, than to try and do 'everything' |
| 16:14.36 | hutgyrr | which makes it cool :-) |
| 16:14.38 | grendal_prime | muto umpuco |
| 16:14.42 | mikeX | s/use/user |
| 16:14.43 | Shucknet | petemc: Courier has the same thing, but I removed my domain from the local domain because I don't want it to think it should be accepting mail for the domain yet |
| 16:14.49 | thingfish | hehe muito pouco |
| 16:14.53 | indio | alquem fala portugues |
| 16:14.59 | petemc | Shucknet: so, when you send mail to it, what should it do? |
| 16:15.05 | Blissex | brynjarh: this means that there are more cool derivatives of Debian than of any other distro. Debian, like free sw, is mostly about choice. |
| 16:15.06 | Dete | sim |
| 16:15.12 | klync | brynjarh: here's the thing... the debian developers do what they want, the Unbuntu developers do what they want, and you do what you want ... but telling them what they should be doing is just not fair, unless you're going to hire them |
| 16:15.13 | Dete | eu falo portugues |
| 16:15.20 | brynjarh | antgel, maybe I'll give stable a try, it might not be so bad (for desktop use) both now and 6 months from now. |
| 16:15.23 | Shucknet | petemc: only accept mail addressed to the specific hostname |
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| 16:15.47 | wersh | i don't know what to do about k de, I'll be damned if i'll sit here and install everything one by one. windows can do better than that. |
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| 16:15.49 | Blissex | brynjarh: note that practically none of the Debian derivatives is business/server oriented, for some reason :-) most of them are desktop oriented... |
| 16:15.49 | thingfish | um montao de gente fala portugues. mas so usamos ingles neste canal. |
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| 16:15.59 | abrotman | grendal_prime: yeah .. i can imagine new,established,related might help :) |
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| 16:16.09 | Estes2 | i got an issue with the debian installer, i must have missed something about mount or so... mount -t ext3 /dev/rd/host0/target0/disc /mnt/ returns "invalid argument".... Why ? |
| 16:16.12 | petemc | Shucknet: you've lost me |
| 16:16.17 | abrotman | big surprise |
| 16:16.20 | ice_1963 | i love Debian |
| 16:16.34 | Blissex | brynjarh: yes, using Sarge now and for the next 6 months/1 year, it is going to be still pretty current. |
| 16:16.34 | valdyn_ | wersh: you are using half a dozen unsupport unofficial sources, your problem, dont expect support here ( or probably anywhere unless you pay ) |
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| 16:16.47 | petemc | abrotman: i wasnt sure if thats a slur against me or him |
| 16:16.55 | petemc | i now suspect the former |
| 16:16.56 | abrotman | it was a joke! |
| 16:16.59 | petemc | :) |
| 16:17.01 | wersh | valdyn_: i used sources from apt that i selected, i added more when it didnt wanna work. |
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| 16:17.04 | abrotman | i miss dpkg |
| 16:17.12 | wersh | and, before paying for anything with debian. I think i'd go back with windows. |
| 16:17.22 | petemc | abrotman: do i remember you chastising me about unfunny jokes... :) |
| 16:17.23 | panthera | wersh: have fun :) |
| 16:17.26 | Shucknet | petemc: sorry. What I'm trying to do is test the installation of Courier on my new, but not yet implemented, mail server. So what I have done is sent a message directly to user@newmailserver.domain.com to test it. It is when I send this message |
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| 16:17.33 | valdyn_ | wersh: anything, but dont talk about that here, its offtopic |
| 16:17.38 | libervisco | abrotman, me too |
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| 16:17.43 | wersh | valdyn_: may be, but truth. |
| 16:17.47 | abrotman | petemc: i have no humor ... |
| 16:17.49 | abrotman | libervisco: que? |
| 16:17.54 | petemc | Shucknet: and you've told courier that newmailserver.domain.com is local, yes? |
| 16:18.00 | libervisco | missing dpkg :) |
| 16:18.00 | Shucknet | that it was vanishing into thin air. I now am getting replies ( had the domain confi messed up ) |
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| 16:18.06 | petemc | abrotman: dont be so hard on yourself |
| 16:18.10 | Shucknet | petemc: I think I had missed that and am checking now |
| 16:18.14 | abrotman | wersh: don't tell us about it .. either start over with debian .. and ask for help here .. or go to the channel for the distro you're going to use |
| 16:18.18 | abrotman | libervisco: ah ok |
| 16:18.22 | wersh | start over with debian? |
| 16:18.24 | wersh | are you a fucking moron? |
| 16:18.25 | brynjarh | Blissex, I'm just looking at distribution to see what fits my needs, I want to do some PHP/SQL/C#(Mono)/GTK/Reading/Writing and also important that I know what's running on my system and that it's secure and stable, new software is a bonus. |
| 16:18.27 | abrotman | are you? |
| 16:18.30 | wersh | no |
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| 16:18.39 | abrotman | apparently .. you've botched debian .. that's hard to do :) |
| 16:18.43 | valdyn_ | ~troll wersh |
| 16:18.44 | apt | ACTION hereby declares wersh a troll |
| 16:18.48 | klync | lol |
| 16:18.50 | libervisco | I am still wondering about installing packages from etch on a sarge installation.. |
| 16:18.50 | wersh | should've known not to come here asking fucking faggots from another country to help. |
| 16:18.56 | wersh | fucking porch monkeys |
| 16:18.58 | abrotman | are you done? |
| 16:18.58 | Ronin | ahh poor baby wersh |
| 16:19.00 | libervisco | like getting a new KDE version |
| 16:19.01 | Gijs` | wersh: please behave. |
| 16:19.13 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 16:19.15 | libervisco | would it be safe |
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| 16:19.19 | abrotman | yay |
| 16:19.23 | Shucknet | petemc: got it! |
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| 16:19.24 | Ronin | whats a porch monkey anyhow? that some sort of insult? |
| 16:19.28 | jharrisonwk | trolling is something like... |
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| 16:19.31 | jharrisonwk | hey debian sucks |
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| 16:19.32 | thingfish | I'm the only faggot I know of in the channel, and I wasn't even talking to him. |
| 16:19.34 | brynjarh | Blissex, I think I'll try Sarge for 6 months and see how it goes. :) |
| 16:19.34 | jharrisonwk | mandrake is better |
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| 16:19.41 | panthera | thingfish :) |
| 16:19.41 | Gijs` | ;) |
| 16:19.42 | klync | lol thingfish |
| 16:19.44 | thingfish | :) |
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| 16:19.49 | jharrisonwk | but well thats more of a joke that gets annoying after a while |
| 16:19.55 | alrs | Ronin: "porch monkey" is an antiquated slur against African-Americans |
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| 16:20.05 | jharrisonwk | alrs: yes its from the south |
| 16:20.10 | abrotman | odd .. since he's from north carolina |
| 16:20.12 | Blissex | brynjarh: that sounds OK. |
| 16:20.12 | abrotman | what a dipshit |
| 16:20.13 | abrotman | oh well .. |
| 16:20.15 | Ronin | alrs: ahh thanks |
| 16:20.15 | abrotman | carry on |
| 16:20.23 | grendal_prime | abrotman, on the new establised related .....actually i just used accept all from tun0 i mean its only the vpn.. |
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| 16:20.37 | abrotman | grendal_prime: that will work too :) |
| 16:20.45 | flacsplit | is there any tool to split a flac file using cue sheet? |
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| 16:21.29 | jharrisonwk | ive got to stop calling people who put their phone numbers on their dns registration |
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| 16:21.37 | Shucknet | LOL |
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| 16:22.05 | jharrisonwk | maybe I will send them postcards to their mailbox instead |
| 16:22.25 | flacsplit | I have a CD image as a flac cue, is there any tool to split the flac into several files using cue indexes? |
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| 16:24.25 | valdyn_ | flacsplit: if at all, then only after you unpack that flac again |
| 16:24.50 | RickTux | abrotman: bug 595610 :-( |
| 16:24.59 | flacsplit | valdyn_: which way sorry? |
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| 16:25.07 | ice_1963 | have a good day i'm going to bed |
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| 16:25.29 | flacsplit | valdyn_: if I unpack the flac I obtain a HUGE wav |
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| 16:25.39 | Estes2 | i got an issue with the debian installer, i must have missed something about mount or so... mount -t ext3 /dev/rd/host0/target0/disc /mnt/ returns "invalid argument".... Why ? Any idea please ? |
| 16:25.59 | valdyn_ | flacsplit: yep |
| 16:26.18 | flacsplit | valdyn_: ok, but how do I split this? |
| 16:27.01 | flacsplit | valdyn_: I see, there is a wavsplit but not a flacsplit |
| 16:27.12 | flacsplit | what a waste |
| 16:27.20 | valdyn_ | flacsplit: i dont know of a tool that does that directly following a cue index |
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| 16:27.51 | valdyn_ | flacsplit: manually however any sample editor could do that then |
| 16:27.57 | flacsplit | valdyn_: thanks, I downloaded something from emule, and it arrived this way |
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| 16:31.36 | LSorensen | Estes2: you usually mount partitions, not whole discs |
| 16:34.10 | KimHansen | Estes2: What is /dev/rd/ for ? |
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| 16:34.35 | morky | hi |
| 16:34.47 | morky | van itt olyan aki tud magyarul? |
| 16:35.28 | bibe | morky : did you try #debian-hu? |
| 16:35.51 | morky | not yet |
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| 16:37.00 | System- | ok i stuck the first cd iso image on a cd, and copied the iso to disk, ive stuck the disk in the cd drive, and started up the computer, but nothings happened? |
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| 16:37.46 | TTT | hi, is it possible to boot and install sarge into software (BIOS) SATA mirror raid? or will it need a lot of tweeking to run this way? |
| 16:38.20 | antgel | TTT: use software raid |
| 16:38.24 | thingfish | System-: how did you transfer the iso to CD? |
| 16:38.36 | antgel | System-: booting from cd in bios? |
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| 16:39.00 | TTT | antgel: I can't, dual-boot system |
| 16:39.08 | TTT | and I mean boot from CD, install, then boot from raid |
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| 16:39.22 | Shucknet | Is there a Debian pine for sarge? |
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| 16:39.45 | xoz | Shucknet: there are better alternatives |
| 16:40.05 | hutgyrr | if I want to search a config file called config.pl and I wanto to find a string but I want to be able to edit it through nano. Is this correct nano config.pl | grep $Conf{XferMethod} |
| 16:40.12 | TTT | Shucknet: not in standart sarge, you might switch to mutt or maybe check out apt-get.org or compile it yourself |
| 16:40.28 | Shucknet | xoz: I know, but I am really used to the pine interface, so I like to have it on my server for use from a shell |
| 16:40.36 | morky | is there anyone how can help me how to config apache on debian? |
| 16:40.39 | Shucknet | TTT: How is mutt to use? |
| 16:40.55 | TTT | Shucknet: it takes getting used to, but it's powerful |
| 16:41.09 | Shucknet | TTT: can it work with maildirs? |
| 16:41.21 | KimHansen | TTT: does mutt have "zoom" like pine does? |
| 16:41.21 | Estes2 | KimHansen, raid |
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| 16:41.30 | TTT | morky: apache1 or apache2? and how is configuring it on debian any different from configuring it on other os? |
| 16:41.32 | xoz | Shucknet: pine-tracker? |
| 16:41.32 | Estes2 | LSorensen, stupid me, thanks |
| 16:41.40 | TTT | Shucknet: it works with maildir |
| 16:41.43 | morky | apache2 |
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| 16:41.57 | TTT | KimHansen: huh? what zoom, never heard about zoom in pine :-\ |
| 16:41.58 | Lloyd__ | error403, ..... |
| 16:41.59 | Shucknet | xoz: I was referring to mutt. I know pine requires some massaging to work with maildirs |
| 16:42.02 | xoz | Shucknet: but mutt is way better than pine |
| 16:42.10 | TTT | morky: what do you want to do with it? |
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| 16:42.34 | Shucknet | hmm... I might have to become a convert. I've just been using the pine/pico package for 10 years |
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| 16:42.43 | TTT | bah, this is always this way, i come to #debian asking for help, and end up helping others :-\ |
| 16:42.44 | error403 | Lloyd__, /stats G, find mine, then /gline -<host> |
| 16:42.46 | KimHansen | TTT: you mark some messages and press z, and the pine only shows these messages in the folder and next and prev only jomps between these messages |
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| 16:43.11 | _pitombera_ | Hi guyz |
| 16:43.15 | _pitombera_ | ^^ |
| 16:43.15 | TTT | KimHansen: hmm, i think it might have something similar, i'm not a mutt power-user though |
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| 16:43.30 | plshelp | hey my iso image doesnt seem to boot |
| 16:43.35 | Lloyd__ | errr ... little trouble there error403 |
| 16:43.40 | KimHansen | it is great if you get 10 messages from a script and you want to check that they are the same and then delete/archive them |
| 16:43.45 | Lloyd__ | I type stats and my crappy lemmings plugin takes over |
| 16:43.58 | TTT | plshelp: um, by your you mean you made it? so probably a broken iso image. Or misconfigured BIOS maybe? |
| 16:44.04 | plshelp | i copied the first cd iso image to disk, and copied it to cd, stuck it in my laptop etc |
| 16:44.20 | plshelp | i got the boot set to hard drive in the bios |
| 16:44.28 | TTT | plshelp: you mean debian installer image? |
| 16:44.32 | TTT | so, set the boot to CD |
| 16:44.33 | _pitombera_ | plshelp, do u extract the iso? or u burn? |
| 16:44.54 | plshelp | i used isoburner to get it burned on as a image |
| 16:45.16 | plshelp | how do u check a iso image? |
| 16:45.21 | TTT | does your compter boot other CDs? |
| 16:45.28 | TTT | i think your bios settings are messed up |
| 16:45.34 | _pitombera_ | plshelp, try use the md5sum |
| 16:45.36 | plshelp | yes i can boot knoppix, kanotix etc |
| 16:45.55 | plshelp | im on a windows machine at the mo, how do i check the md5sum on it? |
| 16:45.57 | nkuttler | plshelp: when you look at the cd, what is on it? an iso file? |
| 16:46.05 | Lloyd__ | error403, try reconnecting. It's only meant to be a 2 min gline |
| 16:46.16 | plshelp | nkuttler i burnt it on |
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| 16:46.30 | _pitombera_ | plshelp, exist programs for windows too |
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| 16:46.35 | nkuttler | plshelp: _what_ did you burn? the .iso _file_ or the filesystem it contains? |
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| 16:46.39 | abrotman | RickTux: huh? |
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| 16:46.57 | abrotman | RickTux: invalid bug number |
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| 16:47.30 | plshelp | when i stick the burnt cd into this computer, it tries to auto play |
| 16:47.35 | morky | so: if i add a new user i want to see its site if i put in thair public_html but it says: The requested URL /test was not found on this server. |
| 16:47.37 | Shucknet | is there any reason I don't have a .muttrc file? |
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| 16:47.41 | _pitombera_ | plshelp, if your cd burned correct, try hability the boot CD option in the BIOS |
| 16:47.52 | nkuttler | plshelp: do not autoplay, open it |
| 16:47.58 | plshelp | hability? |
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| 16:48.02 | plshelp | yea i didnt open play it |
| 16:48.10 | plshelp | *auto |
| 16:48.16 | _pitombera_ | plshelp, turn on |
| 16:48.22 | _pitombera_ | my english is sux |
| 16:48.27 | _pitombera_ | ^^ |
| 16:48.28 | TTT | Shucknet: um, maybe it's your first time running mutt? |
| 16:48.32 | TTT | or was that an error? |
| 16:48.42 | Shucknet | TTT: even after I ran it - no .muttrc |
| 16:48.42 | _pitombera_ | TTT, what is mutt? |
| 16:48.46 | nkuttler | plshelp: now, when you open it, what do you see? |
| 16:48.54 | nkuttler | _pitombera_: apt-cache show mutt |
| 16:48.59 | TTT | _pitombera_: text-mode mail client ala pine |
| 16:49.00 | plshelp | files and folders |
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| 16:49.11 | _pitombera_ | hum.... thanx TTT |
| 16:49.16 | nkuttler | plshelp: good. that means you need to set your bios to boot from cdrom |
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| 16:49.31 | nkuttler | plshelp: did you read the install guide? |
| 16:49.32 | Shucknet | TTT: I expected it to create one when I ran it, but it didn't |
| 16:49.36 | plshelp | it is set to boot from cdrom |
| 16:49.49 | xoz | Shucknet: goto /usr/share/doc/mutt/ |
| 16:49.50 | TTT | Shucknet: it didn't create it for me too |
| 16:49.51 | plshelp | i bin booting kanotix from it all week |
| 16:50.06 | Shucknet | xoz: ok - thanks |
| 16:50.10 | morky | is there anybody who can help me in configing apache2??? |
| 16:50.12 | nkuttler | plshelp: do you mean "i have been"? |
| 16:50.17 | valdyn_ | Shucknet: only stuff that deviates from defaults gets into muttrc, so there's no need for a 'default' muttrc |
| 16:50.20 | nkuttler | morky: /usr/share/doc/apache2 |
| 16:50.27 | plshelp | yes |
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| 16:50.39 | TTT | morky: what do you want to do with your apache2? |
| 16:50.51 | TTT | what configuration changes do you want to make? |
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| 16:51.01 | TTT | morky: and I asked that 10 minutes ago |
| 16:51.05 | _pitombera_ | plshelp, the iso don't burned correctly |
| 16:51.08 | morky | it seems everything is ok but it doesnt work:((( |
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| 16:51.08 | Shucknet | valdyn_: ok - I'm going to have to make a default for my server that sets it to maildir automatically, but I assume the documentation will tell me how to do that |
| 16:51.15 | _pitombera_ | i think this |
| 16:51.22 | nkuttler | morky: look into /var/log/apache2 |
| 16:51.23 | TTT | um, morky, WHAT EXACTLY does not work? |
| 16:51.25 | xoz | Shucknet: try the /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/ especially the ones with fancy colors |
| 16:51.32 | plshelp | well it must have been burnt correctly, because when i stick it in this computer it tries to autoplay |
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| 16:51.45 | nkuttler | plshelp: what happens when you boot from it? |
| 16:51.46 | TTT | Shucknet: there can be a global muttrc in /etc, RTFM for more |
| 16:51.56 | plshelp | i cant boot from it |
| 16:51.59 | _dishwasher | NFS is causing me all kinds of headaches. Whenever I mount it, I try to get into it and the terminal hangs. Anyone seen this before? |
| 16:52.07 | nkuttler | plshelp: what does that mean? |
| 16:52.10 | plshelp | i havnt tried on this computer |
| 16:52.27 | plshelp | but it wont boot on the laptop, that i know is capible of booting iso's |
| 16:52.40 | nkuttler | plshelp: the bios writes booting from cdrom or something similar? |
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| 16:53.00 | valdyn_ | Shucknet: that would be /etc/Muttrc |
| 16:53.02 | plshelp | no it just does _ in the top corner |
| 16:53.07 | plshelp | and nothing happens |
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| 16:53.29 | nkuttler | plshelp: and you used the live cds on the laptop? |
| 16:53.31 | BioNik_ | is there any menu based commandline gui for editing groups and users? |
| 16:53.36 | plshelp | yes |
| 16:53.37 | morky | i said, i want to portray users sites what in thair public_HTML directory |
| 16:53.40 | darkness1 | Say how stable is sid atm? |
| 16:53.53 | plshelp | i just stuck one in as we speak and its worked |
| 16:53.55 | nkuttler | plshelp: sounds like the iso is broken |
| 16:54.05 | nkuttler | plshelp: or not burned correctly |
| 16:54.09 | nkuttler | plshelp: /msg dpkg netinst |
| 16:54.10 | plshelp | even though it tries to autoplay on this computer? |
| 16:54.14 | xoz | BioNik: what you wanna do for example? |
| 16:54.19 | nkuttler | plshelp: doesn't mean everything is correct on the cd |
| 16:54.28 | BioNik | xoz: manage groups easily |
| 16:54.35 | BioNik | i'm bofh. |
| 16:54.36 | valdyn_ | darkness1: you think wrong, sid is defined as unstable b/c it changes every day, prophets could know the changes of tomorrow, not me ;) |
| 16:54.37 | BioNik | :P |
| 16:54.38 | TTT | morky: i.e. you want users to be able to see their public_html in www.some-host.tld/~user ? |
| 16:54.47 | xoz | BioNik: for example? |
| 16:54.51 | morky | yes |
| 16:54.57 | plshelp | il attempt to burn it again i guess, whats better to install using netinst, or cd1? |
| 16:55.09 | TTT | morky: hmm, default config does that by default as far as i know |
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| 16:55.19 | BioNik | xoz: add users to groups by choosing them in a menu and stuff |
| 16:55.20 | ke6isf | plshelp: Yes. |
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| 16:55.31 | plshelp | yes? |
| 16:55.36 | nkuttler | morky: you need the userdir module |
| 16:55.37 | morky | yes, but it doesnt work |
| 16:55.37 | xoz | BioNik: like adduser <user> <group> |
| 16:55.39 | ke6isf | plshelp: netinst is a little more efficient, though, if you have broadband. |
| 16:55.49 | BioNik | xoz: well yeah |
| 16:55.51 | bartden | hi, any good suggestions for a CAD program like autocad but under linux |
| 16:55.52 | nkuttler | plshelp: if you have a fast connection use the netinst image |
| 16:56.03 | ke6isf | bartden: cycas3 |
| 16:56.17 | morky | it seems ok but if i brows: www.xyz.hu/user i it say 404 error |
| 16:56.17 | plshelp | well i havnt got a internet connection on the laptop that im trying to install debian on |
| 16:56.32 | ke6isf | plshelp: Do you have an internet connection, and a NIC for the laptop? |
| 16:56.42 | valdyn_ | plshelp: CD1 is good, might have all you need |
| 16:56.44 | nkuttler | plshelp: hm, then get cd 1 |
| 16:57.00 | plshelp | ok thanks, thats what im trying to use, but it aint booting lol |
| 16:57.02 | ke6isf | bartden: Note, it doesn't seem to be on the mirrors. Google it up. |
| 16:57.09 | plshelp | il try and burn the iso again i guess :-/ |
| 16:57.22 | nkuttler | plshelp: either the iso is not correct or you didn't burn it correctly |
| 16:57.26 | TTT | morky: nkuttler might be right, check mods-enabled for userdir.conf |
| 16:57.33 | TTT | in /etc/apache2 |
| 16:57.34 | xoz | BioNik: you can try usermin but it's not really advisable due to security issues |
| 16:57.34 | plshelp | how do i check the iso? |
| 16:57.45 | BioNik | xoz: ok |
| 16:57.48 | ke6isf | plshelp: md5sum |
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| 16:58.05 | morky | ok a min:) |
| 16:58.11 | _dishwasher | I have a weird problem where the mount command won't work because I have a 686 SMP kernel... it says the mount command is older than the kernel, so I'm left trying to figure out how to resolve this situation. |
| 16:58.21 | BioNik | xoz: thanks |
| 16:58.23 | plshelp | dont have that on the windows machine im using ke6isf |
| 16:58.34 | _dishwasher | I've tried everything... the only thing I can think to do is re-install with a 64 bit native debian. |
| 16:58.49 | nkuttler | plshelp: there probably are tools to check md5sums for windows, do a google search |
| 16:58.52 | _dishwasher | Anyone have any experience with this problem? NFS is causing me pain and suffering. |
| 16:59.04 | ke6isf | _dishwasher: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 16:59.10 | plshelp | i tried one earlier and it just froze my computer lol |
| 16:59.24 | nkuttler | plshelp: it takes some time |
| 16:59.25 | ke6isf | plshelp: Cygwin is your answer then |
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| 16:59.34 | valdyn_ | _dishwasher: why would 64 bit debian have anything to do with it or why should it be able to fix nfs issues? |
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| 16:59.46 | ke6isf | plshelp: And yeah, for an ISO, it can take a little while for an md5sum to calculate. |
| 16:59.50 | plshelp | the program stopped responding |
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| 17:00.09 | _dishwasher | well, the problem is older dependent packages, right? |
| 17:00.29 | ke6isf | _dishwasher: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 17:00.34 | _dishwasher | I'm not sure how to upgrade the 32 bit mount stuff (and it's resultant dependencies) so I can run the SMP kernel, without re-installing. |
| 17:00.39 | _dishwasher | Latest |
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| 17:00.45 | ke6isf | _dishwasher: Latest what? |
| 17:00.58 | ke6isf | _dishwasher: Stable? Unstable? Testing? |
| 17:00.59 | _dishwasher | Linux web1 2.6.8-11-em64t-p4-smp #1 SMP Mon May 30 22:45:17 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:01.01 | shad0w1e | question, any time I try to back up /var/lib, I get an "omitting directory" when using cp command |
| 17:01.07 | _dishwasher | stable |
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| 17:01.11 | shad0w1e | how do I back it up? |
| 17:01.35 | _dishwasher | did a straight linux64 install... |
| 17:01.35 | abrotman | which directory? |
| 17:01.46 | shad0w1e | the /var/lib |
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| 17:02.05 | abrotman | you used -R ? |
| 17:02.14 | thrthr | Hi guys, which file do i edit to make KDE my default WM when i start X?(debian sarge) |
| 17:02.17 | shad0w1e | whats -R ? |
| 17:02.25 | TTT | um, so is there a FAQ or a howto about installing sarge with dmraid on SATA-mirror-raid? Or at least anyone here with experience doing that? |
| 17:02.26 | ke6isf | shad0w1e: recurse. |
| 17:02.27 | shad0w1e | ohhh |
| 17:02.32 | shad0w1e | i thought that was automatic |
| 17:02.48 | ke6isf | shad0w1e: cp won't recurse unless explicitely told to at command line or in an alias. |
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| 17:03.21 | TTT | shad0w1e: also, if doing backups, check other switches for cp to preserve timestamps and user rights |
| 17:03.30 | TTT | or use tar |
| 17:03.35 | ke6isf | shad0w1e: Also, why use cp? Why not tar or cpio? |
| 17:03.46 | shad0w1e | I'm just trying to copy a directory over |
| 17:03.56 | r3v | why can't I /msg dpkg? |
| 17:04.02 | _dishwasher | I read The Debian GNU/Linux AMD64 HOW-TO, and it said I couldn't do something like apt-get arch-upgrade from an already installed i386 install, so the only options I have are to force the package install, or? |
| 17:04.05 | shad0w1e | how would I tar up the /var/lib ? |
| 17:04.06 | darkness1 | Say doesn't this chan exist of the back of there isn't enough time in the world? I mean isn't there enough linux tuts to cobble dogs with for anyone with enough time on their hands? |
| 17:04.25 | morky | re, it doesnt work... The requested URL /test was not found on this server. |
| 17:04.29 | ke6isf | r3v: Looks like he fell off at 04:24 PDT. |
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| 17:04.47 | r3v | ke6isf: arrg, I needed his assistance |
| 17:05.02 | xoz | ~ping |
| 17:05.03 | apt | pong |
| 17:05.07 | ke6isf | r3v: No answer here, sorry. Be patient, I shall return. |
| 17:05.11 | ke6isf | s/I/he |
| 17:05.13 | TTT | morky: um, /~test ? and is there an user test with an accessible public_html? |
| 17:05.14 | xoz | r3v: try apt |
| 17:05.40 | morky | yes |
| 17:05.43 | xoz | apt, are you there? |
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| 17:06.02 | ke6isf | xoz: apt is there, just msg the bot. |
| 17:06.08 | TTT | and there is a symlink/config file userdir.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ? |
| 17:06.15 | shad0w1e | ok thanks, fella |
| 17:06.16 | shad0w1e | s |
| 17:06.19 | shad0w1e | take care |
| 17:06.22 | shad0w1e | -R worked! |
| 17:06.26 | TTT | cya |
| 17:06.28 | plshelp | how do i know what the md5 hash should be? |
| 17:06.42 | abrotman | plshelp: in that directory should be an md5sum file |
| 17:06.44 | morky | yeh |
| 17:06.47 | abrotman | where you downloaded form |
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| 17:07.16 | plshelp | its just a iso file? |
| 17:07.16 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS |
| 17:07.18 | morky | ttt can u help if i give u my pass...? |
| 17:07.30 | plshelp | thanks |
| 17:07.36 | TTT | morky: um, nope, sorry |
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| 17:07.52 | TTT | i gotta go in ~10 minutes |
| 17:07.56 | morky | :( |
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| 17:08.00 | ke6isf | morky: Dude, never give your password to anybody. Ever. |
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| 17:08.17 | plshelp | abrotman, will that be the hah for where ever you download it from? |
| 17:08.18 | abrotman | morky: if you can't strange the person .. don't give them your passwords |
| 17:08.29 | morky | there isnt any important thing on it... |
| 17:08.31 | abrotman | plshelp: they should all be identical .. no matter which server you get the ISO from |
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| 17:08.41 | abrotman | morky: no .. but they could do something *bad* |
| 17:08.43 | TTT | morky: just for fun, apt-get remove --purge apache2; rm -rf /etc/apache2; apt-get install apache2, this should restore default config, which should work |
| 17:08.44 | ke6isf | morky: Doesn't matter. Just don't. |
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| 17:08.46 | plshelp | ah, ic, damn fuck balls! |
| 17:08.48 | morky | so thets why i can give it... after it i would change it... |
| 17:08.50 | plshelp | it dont match... |
| 17:08.55 | ircops | Can I get Debian to cook me pizza? |
| 17:09.02 | abrotman | ~feed ircops |
| 17:09.03 | apt | offers ircops some |
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| 17:09.11 | TTT | morky: after, you should reinstall :) there are always chances of traps/backdoors |
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| 17:09.42 | ke6isf | morky: Giving your password is suicidal if you don't know the person very well. If you do anything like that, give them an account and put them in /etc/sudoers so you can track their movements. |
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| 17:10.09 | RichiH_ | !test |
| 17:10.14 | ke6isf | morky: To give you an idea, even my wife doesn't have my root password. |
| 17:10.15 | RichiH_ | hrmph |
| 17:10.15 | TTT | plshelp: use rsync to get a new image ontop of the old image |
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| 17:10.19 | ircops | "The all new pizza oven controlled completely by IBM X10 modules, controlled by your computer! You can even set a timer to have your pizza ready whenever you want! Only $7.999.95!" |
| 17:10.22 | ke6isf | RichiH_: Use apt, dpkg is off for the moment. |
| 17:10.23 | RichiH_ | sussudio_: badger is needed |
| 17:10.26 | plshelp | rsync works with windows? |
| 17:10.32 | TTT | plshelp: it will only download the changes, not the entire image, if you have rsync available |
| 17:10.35 | RichiH_ | ke6isf: i know. i was checking if badger took the place |
| 17:10.35 | abrotman | badgers |
| 17:10.37 | abrotman | iirc |
| 17:10.39 | TTT | um, plshelp, it does on cygwin I think |
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| 17:11.01 | plshelp | ah, anything i can use instead of cygwin? |
| 17:11.13 | grendal_prime | whats the quickest way to get a list of whats using what files in a particular file... |
| 17:11.22 | TTT | boot kanotix or some-such stuff, it should have rsync :-\ |
| 17:11.24 | abrotman | grendal_prime: say what? |
| 17:11.24 | grendal_prime | i cant seem to umount this remote dir now |
| 17:11.27 | abrotman | grendal_prime: fuser/lsof |
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| 17:11.36 | TTT | or knoppix, you said you had it |
| 17:11.49 | mixmatch | tar -xpf file.tar /var/lib |
| 17:11.51 | TTT | grendal_prime: fuser, check -m and -k |
| 17:12.08 | TTT | grendal_prime: -m for entire mount, -k kills any process using it |
| 17:12.40 | plshelp | i cant copy files over like that, dont have a cd rewriter on the other computer, or a way to bring a improved version bk to this pc |
| 17:13.08 | TTT | plshelp: get 4 floppies, boot from floppy disk and then transfer the rest over network |
| 17:13.37 | plshelp | cant network it, dont have network set up, and dont have a NIC |
| 17:13.51 | _dishwasher | what port does portmap actually run on? |
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| 17:13.54 | _dishwasher | 139? |
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| 17:14.07 | _dishwasher | 369? |
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| 17:14.10 | _dishwasher | anyone? |
| 17:14.15 | grendal_prime | hmmm still says its busy |
| 17:14.16 | grendal_prime | werid |
| 17:14.18 | TTT | _dishwasher: /etc/services ? |
| 17:14.31 | TTT | grendal_prime: what does fuser -m /mount_point say? |
| 17:14.45 | _dishwasher | 111? |
| 17:15.08 | grendal_prime | shawng/calaveras_drive: 23250c |
| 17:15.26 | TTT | _dishwasher: dunno, run portmap, then do netstat -l maybe or lsof -nP |grep portmap |
| 17:15.27 | xoz | _dishwasher: /etc/services |
| 17:15.27 | grendal_prime | dont know what.....23250c |
| 17:15.30 | TTT | probably 1111 |
| 17:15.36 | TTT | i mean 111 |
| 17:15.50 | xoz | 111 |
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| 17:16.03 | xoz | for sunrpc |
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| 17:16.13 | TTT | grendal_prime: 23250 is a pid of some process. ps -ef |grep 23250 for more info |
| 17:16.16 | grendal_prime | portmap is 111 |
| 17:16.36 | xoz | grep portmap /etc/services |
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| 17:16.59 | _dishwasher | thanks TTT |
| 17:17.10 | migiel | how can i make a complete copy from a ext2 partition to a reiserfs partition ? |
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| 17:19.03 | morky | továbbra is kerestetik egy magyar emberke |
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| 17:19.13 | roel- | hm.. the mbmon tool has 'stalled' output since a few days, the temperatures are suddenly constant.. does anyone have a clue why? |
| 17:19.14 | Rawplayer | how can i print a package list of my installed packages on my system |
| 17:19.18 | kotek951 | hi |
| 17:19.34 | roel- | Rawplayer: dpkg -l |
| 17:19.35 | morky | hi |
| 17:19.39 | TTT | migiel: i think i used tar do do that, something like 'tar clf - | (cd /mount_point; tar xf -)' |
| 17:19.53 | TTT | migiel: also, add switches to preserver permissions, timestamps and stuff |
| 17:20.25 | kotek951 | does anybody know how can I compile a program using gcc, to have an exe file(dorry for my bad english:)) |
| 17:20.32 | migiel | TTT: ok i'll look into that |
| 17:20.47 | TTT | kotek951: gcc -o exe_file program.c |
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| 17:21.08 | TTT | migiel: there are also other ways, i'm not sure if my way is the best |
| 17:21.12 | ke6isf | kotek951: What exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 17:21.24 | kotek951 | but so, I will have a linux file, only with the name of *.exe |
| 17:21.54 | TTT | kotek951: liunx files are not usually named with .exe |
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| 17:22.00 | xoz | kotek951: what are you going to do with those *.exe? |
| 17:22.01 | Ether_Man | linux doesnt use file extionsions the way win does.. |
| 17:22.19 | ipso | Any ideas why run-parts for /etc/cron.daily only executes about half the scripts that it should? It doesn't seem to ever run logrotate, but other scripts such as modlogan seem to run fine. Does every script have to exit 0 before the next one will run perhaps? |
| 17:22.34 | kotek951 | I have a source program, and I want to compile it so, that i can run it on the windows |
| 17:22.47 | xoz | plonk |
| 17:22.49 | Ether_Man | ah.. a cross-compile then.. |
| 17:22.52 | Gnea | migiel: make a backup of everything on the partition: cp -rP /mount/point/ /backup/dir/ |
| 17:22.54 | TTT | kotek951: it is quite difficult, and it's called cross-compiling |
| 17:23.19 | kotek951 | do I need any program ffor this? |
| 17:23.21 | xoz | kotek951: what program? |
| 17:23.22 | ke6isf | kotek951: I'd recommend installing gcc under Windows and compiling it therein. Beyond that, I'm out - I don't do Windows. |
| 17:23.25 | TTT | kotek951: it is easier to get cygwin or mingw32 on windows and compile stuff there if you are new |
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| 17:23.44 | Ether_Man | I would suggest getting MinGW and compile the program in that instead.. much easier.. |
| 17:23.45 | migiel | Gnea: will it also copy the permissions correct? |
| 17:23.54 | Gnea | migiel: yes. |
| 17:23.55 | kotek951 | but i'd like to do it on linux |
| 17:23.56 | Thanatermesis | I have look a lot of "cannot open Display:0.0" with launch a program with root (testing)... this is caused from xorg transition ? |
| 17:24.08 | mixmatch | migiel: if you don't have space, you can use gar and gzip |
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| 17:24.17 | Gnea | migiel: if you read the manpage for cp, you'll get a full idea of what those options do |
| 17:24.18 | mixmatch | migiel: tar that is |
| 17:24.20 | ke6isf | Thanatermesis: You're not trying to run as root from su -, are you? |
| 17:24.42 | kotek951 | bay |
| 17:24.45 | kotek951 | exit |
| 17:24.49 | kotek951 | quit |
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| 17:25.00 | migiel | mixmatch: i just need a full backup, since my old harddisk is giving errors.. |
| 17:25.01 | xoz | plonk-plonk |
| 17:25.04 | TTT | kotek951: you still here? |
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| 17:25.09 | TimMosley | I just ran out of inodes on my ext3 partition. Is recreating it with mkfs.ext3 the only option to fix this? |
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| 17:25.19 | migiel | Gnea: ok, i'll check the manpage |
| 17:25.20 | ke6isf | Wow, never seen plokta in IRC before. |
| 17:25.23 | carcrashnights | Does anyone happen to know which package contains freetype-config? |
| 17:25.45 | Gnea | migiel: the idea is this: backup all of the files on the partition to a safe place, unmount the partition cleanly, format it (mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdXY), mount it (after establishing ext3 or whatever in /etc/fstab) copy thefiles back over to it |
| 17:25.49 | xoz | carcrashnights: apt-file search <??> |
| 17:25.50 | TimMosley | carcrashnights, libfreetype6-dev |
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| 17:26.16 | carcrashnights | Thank you both very much. |
| 17:26.26 | migiel | ok Gnea |
| 17:26.30 | migiel | thx |
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| 17:26.35 | Gnea | np |
| 17:26.41 | TTT | ok, gotta go, bye |
| 17:26.41 | Thanatermesis | ke6isf "su -" != "su" ? |
| 17:27.04 | xoz | != |
| 17:27.16 | Gnea | equals-not |
| 17:27.23 | ke6isf | Thanatermesis: Yes. 'su' just carries over the variables of the user you su'd from. 'su -' starts afresh with the new user's environment. |
| 17:27.25 | Gnea | the-difference-being |
| 17:27.31 | ke6isf | s/variables/environment |
| 17:27.42 | ke6isf | Thanatermesis: If you gotta run an x app as root, just 'su'. |
| 17:27.45 | xoz | inheritance vs born again |
| 17:28.01 | Thanatermesis | ok, thanks ke6isf |
| 17:28.01 | xoz | i suggest sudo |
| 17:28.03 | ke6isf | xoz: Much more concise than I did. =^_^= |
| 17:28.07 | ke6isf | !beer xoz |
| 17:28.08 | xoz | heh |
| 17:28.17 | ke6isf | ~beer xoz |
| 17:28.19 | apt | ACTION pours a pint of Franziskaner Hefeweizen for xoz |
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| 17:28.37 | purplebob | I compiled the latest 2.6 kernel on my laptop running etch. when I boot into that kernel the keyboard input lags or ignores completly ignores keystrokes for quite a while then starts wokring again. the standard kernel works fine. |
| 17:28.37 | Gnea | Thanatermesis: yeah if you are user 'homie', and if you su to root, and run a mail program, such as mutt or pine, you will be reading homie's email, but with su -, you would be reading root's email |
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| 17:28.50 | ke6isf | ~wayc purplebob |
| 17:28.55 | purplebob | any idea what option needs selected/deselected to correct that. |
| 17:29.00 | ke6isf | buggers. |
| 17:29.08 | ke6isf | purplebob: Why compile when you can just apt-get? |
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| 17:29.19 | inwx | does anybody know if mit kerberos support multiple nics? |
| 17:30.15 | stouse1 | I realize this is entirely the wrong channel for this, but is there a way in LaTeX to have a literal carat? I've got a line of code I'm trying to paste into a LaTeX document, but it's choking on a ^. I can't use a \verb or \begin{verbatim}, because it's inside of a table :P |
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| 17:31.04 | brynjarh | What are the main reason(s) someone might want to use UTF-8 instead of ISO-Something? |
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| 17:31.13 | brynjarh | On a Debian system.. |
| 17:31.14 | Anthro | stouse1: $\hat{}$ |
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| 17:31.27 | stouse1 | Anthro: Doesn't look good for normal text. Squishes everything together. |
| 17:31.27 | purplebob | ..... i just weird like that.... really amateur radio support and QoS/ivp6/ipvs stuff im working with |
| 17:31.43 | stouse1 | Anthro: If I had a way of doing a \verb or something similar inside of a table, that would be GREAT. |
| 17:32.07 | Anthro | stouse1: What do you mean by "squishes everything together"? Maybe $\hat{~}$ |
| 17:32.13 | stouse1 | brynjarh: Wanting to support multiple character sets that aren't included in an ISO-* encoded file. |
| 17:32.16 | ke6isf | purplebob: Have you thought about asking in #kernel? |
| 17:32.53 | stouse1 | brynjarh: Wanting to reduce the complexity of text across the web by eventually eliminating all of the ISO-* encodings and just have unicode encoded in UTF-8/16 or UCS-2. |
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| 17:33.14 | stouse1 | Anthro: Ah, great! |
| 17:33.17 | abrotman | dunno about reduce complexity .. but to have a single encoding might be good :) |
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| 17:33.22 | stouse1 | Anthro: The last one works. |
| 17:33.28 | Anthro | stouse1: Good |
| 17:33.38 | brynjarh | stouse1, okay thanks! But would you know why Debian uses ISO-* by default? |
| 17:33.41 | stouse1 | abrotman: Well, for every character set out there, that's yet another character set that whatever your low-level library has to support. |
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| 17:34.12 | abrotman | stouset: yes .. but i'm sure it makes it a bit more complicated .. unless yes .. you support tons of locales |
| 17:34.15 | stouset | brynjarh: It's a sane default that everything and it's mother supports. |
| 17:34.38 | abrotman | brynjarh: not everything is UTF-safe |
| 17:35.19 | abrotman | or perhaps .. i should rephrase .. it's not good to assume everything is UTF-safe |
| 17:35.22 | brynjarh | abrotman, stouset any idea when everything and it's mother will support UTF-8? |
| 17:35.31 | abrotman | brynjarh: 2043 ? |
| 17:35.35 | Anthro | brynjarh: The various ISO-* locales all assume single-byte characters. UTF-8 only has single-byte characters for those symbols in 7-bit ascii. Anything else is multibyte. |
| 17:35.51 | Anthro | brynjarh: Don't hold your breath. |
| 17:36.12 | brynjarh | abrotman, Anders damn.. |
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| 17:37.08 | brynjarh | abauer, Anders, stouset but in an ideal world everyone would use UTF-8 right? |
| 17:37.17 | Anthro | brynjarh: I'm not Anders |
| 17:37.19 | abrotman | ideally .. it would be easier for many things .. |
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| 17:37.26 | abrotman | Anthro: i'm not abauer either :) |
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| 17:37.27 | brynjarh | Anthro, woops |
| 17:38.08 | brynjarh | abrotman, need to keep my fingers of the TAB.. |
| 17:38.13 | brynjarh | off* |
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| 17:38.25 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 17:39.11 | Anthro | brynjarh: That would make life easier in a variety of ways, though UTF-8 is really a hack. UTF-16 is easier to deal with. UTF-8 is popular because it's largely the same as ASCII and anything only (or almost only) in English saves a bunch of space by encoding in UTF-8. |
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| 17:40.01 | Ether_Man | isolatin wins ^_~ |
| 17:40.07 | KimHansen | How do I tell ps2pdf that my default papersize is a4 ? |
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| 17:40.23 | KimHansen | Anthro: there is an UTF-9 |
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| 17:40.38 | Anthro | KimHansen: Um? Ew. Why? |
| 17:40.54 | abrotman | sounds like an MS invention :) |
| 17:41.10 | Anthro | sounds like it's targeted at old, crusty mainframes. |
| 17:41.19 | KimHansen | it is an aprilsfool, there is an RFC for it |
| 17:41.34 | Anthro | Ah, excellent. |
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| 17:42.23 | KimHansen | but it is really nice, both utf-8 and -9 is really simple |
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| 17:45.02 | brynjarh | Anthro, abrotman: text encoding sound complicated.. So let's say for example I want to name files with English and Icelandic characters using ISO-* (so I'm safe from all harm done by UTF-8), I need to generate the "en_US ISO-8859-1" text encoding/locale (which is generated by default) and the "is_IS ISO-8859-1"? And if I have files named using a UTF-8 character encoding I need to rename them so they display right? right? |
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| 17:45.33 | abrotman | brynjarh: you can only use one encoding at a time realisitcally |
| 17:45.41 | inwx | does anybody know if mit kerberos support multiple nics? |
| 17:46.22 | abrotman | wow .. so with no dondelelcaro .. we have no dpkg or debhelper |
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| 17:47.00 | brynjarh | abrotman, so I can't name my files in arabic and icelandic at the same time except I use UTF-8? But I can with english and icelandic characters using is_IS ISO-8859-1? |
| 17:47.16 | nvz | abrotman: and no yinzersmite |
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| 17:47.33 | abrotman | only if the icelandic charset includes 'normal' english characters .. at least that's my understanding |
| 17:47.36 | abrotman | @yinzersmite nvz |
| 17:47.37 | nvz | abrotman: which is the real tragedy in all of this |
| 17:47.38 | cheal | what happened to dondelelcaro? |
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| 17:47.44 | abrotman | cheal: off the net i guess |
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| 17:47.52 | ke6isf | abrotman: Wonder where dondelelcaro went. |
| 17:47.54 | jason^ | hmm my ls -la sorts without the period on my debian machine but another linux distro sorts it with the dots first (which i prefer)... is there a way to make it do that on my debian box? |
| 17:48.12 | abrotman | sorts them first on mine |
| 17:48.22 | brynjarh | abrotman, okay I think I understand this a bit better now, this has been an informing conversation. :) |
| 17:48.24 | beardy | ~seen dondelelcaro |
| 17:48.25 | apt | dondelelcaro <n=don@archimedes.ucr.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 6h 50m 25s ago, saying: '!tell Scimmione -about paster'. |
| 17:48.26 | hackeron | hey, I'm trying to set up cyrus-imapd on my debian box, and I'm a little lost. Firstly, apt-get install cyrus-imapd installed version 1.5.19 which I couldnt find any documentation other than the 1998 release date. Any help? |
| 17:48.32 | ke6isf | jason^: There are various sort options to be found if you do ls --help | more. |
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| 17:48.55 | beardy | cheal: He probably disappeared the same time as dpkg. (He runs it, doesn't he?) |
| 17:49.06 | cheal | beardy: yes |
| 17:49.23 | ke6isf | That's about when dpkg fell off - 04:24 PDT. |
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| 17:49.48 | ke6isf | They'll be back. |
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| 17:51.37 | abrotman | brynjarh: i'm not even sure where you'd read more about it .. maybe /usr/share/doc/locales .. not sure |
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| 17:56.30 | ScottMac | Anyone got a high quality debian logo? |
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| 17:56.48 | ScottMac | I managed to find a 1.3meg Gentoo Logo and I was wondering if there is a similar debian one |
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| 17:58.39 | liran_ | there's a command to show open ports links to programs so if say 22 shows up open in netstat you can see which program is runing it. i forgot whats the tool for that. anyone? |
| 17:59.17 | nvz | liran_: netstat |
| 17:59.39 | timo | netstat with -p |
| 17:59.56 | KimHansen | ScottMac: http://www.debian.org/logos/ |
| 18:00.07 | ScottMac | KimHansen: they're all low quality |
| 18:00.24 | nvz | he didnt ask for the command, he asked what the tool was. and thats netstat |
| 18:00.26 | KimHansen | Not the .pdf/.ps/gimp ones |
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| 18:00.47 | liran_ | oh right |
| 18:00.48 | liran_ | thanks |
| 18:00.55 | liran_ | but there's a tool for doing that i forgot it's name :p |
| 18:00.58 | timo | nvz, I provided it anyway |
| 18:01.42 | Aim_Here | lsof shows what proces is attached to what file, it might show tcp ports too |
| 18:02.21 | ScottMac | KimHansen: forgot they were vector based :) |
| 18:02.30 | nvz | ScottMac: http://people.debian.org/~che/presentation/mgp/tlug-2001-11/debian.orig.png |
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| 18:02.58 | nvz | ScottMac: debian logo 1525x1304 63k |
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| 18:03.25 | ScottMac | nvz, ideal. Its for desktop images on some demo machines for my talk tomorrow |
| 18:03.28 | ScottMac | Gentoo vs Debian :) |
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| 18:04.26 | nvz | ScottMac: http://www.glatozen.org/wallpaper/debian.php |
| 18:04.36 | hyksos | hi, someone knows the hex-code for space (empty sign)? |
| 18:04.56 | nvz | ScottMac: take your f'in pick :P |
| 18:05.16 | roel- | hyksos: www.asciitable.com |
| 18:05.36 | ScottMac | 32 is space |
| 18:05.43 | ScottMac | ah thats decimal |
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| 18:05.49 | roel- | 32=20 |
| 18:06.25 | JuanCraft | HI |
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| 18:06.50 | ella_ | Hi. Printer trouble. I just installed Debian Sarge + Gnome. X session error says "(gnome-cups-manager:3146): CRITICAL **: gnome_cups_request_new_for_printer: assertion `gnome_cups_printer_get_attributes_initialized (printer)' failed" |
| 18:06.50 | JuanCraft | Can somebody help me? |
| 18:07.02 | ke6isf | JuanCraft: Just ask your question. |
| 18:07.09 | roel- | don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 18:07.15 | ella_ | I don't know how to fix it. |
| 18:07.58 | Anthro | ella_: Sounds like GNOME is messed up. The printer probably isn't, though. Try directing a browser at http://localhost:631/printers |
| 18:08.03 | JuanCraft | thanx, how can i mount another win_files? |
| 18:08.04 | ke6isf | JuanCraft: With the current question, the answer is "don't jump, it's not worth it!". |
| 18:08.26 | ke6isf | ~sicco |
| 18:08.27 | apt | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about research and cooperation in asking for help. |
| 18:08.47 | ella_ | i have gone through that already, Anthro. I even reinstalled the printer using localhost:631 |
| 18:09.03 | Anthro | ella_: And it doesn't print, or GNOME won't deal with it? |
| 18:09.14 | ella_ | i am thinking it's Gnome |
| 18:09.27 | ella_ | it doesn't print |
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| 18:10.07 | Anthro | ella_: Sounds likely. You have a GNOME problem. You may or may not have a printing problem. They are largely unrelated. I can help with the printing problem. GNOME... I have no interest in nor significant knowledge of GNOME. |
| 18:10.24 | Anthro | ella_: Do you want to tackle the printing problem? |
| 18:10.40 | ella_ | yes. Anthro. :-) |
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| 18:11.00 | Anthro | ella_: Okay, basics then. What kind of printer, how is it connected to the machine? |
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| 18:11.16 | ella_ | HP600C lp0 |
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| 18:11.39 | Anthro | ella_: lp0 meaning a parallel port? |
| 18:11.43 | ella_ | yes |
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| 18:11.53 | Anthro | ella_: And how were you trying to print? |
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| 18:12.04 | erroneous | anyone know what package sources I should use to install Azureus on Sarge Testing? |
| 18:12.20 | ella_ | well. i tried to print a test page from the localhost:631 |
| 18:12.22 | ella_ | that didn't work |
| 18:12.23 | Ronin | erroneous: azureus most likely |
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| 18:12.38 | abrotman | erroneous: sarge isn't testing |
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| 18:12.58 | erroneous | no, like what package source sites (http, ftp) I should use that include everything for azureus and java |
| 18:13.26 | Anthro | ella_: Okay. First things first. We'll work within the browser interface. What does the printer status say? Is it stopped? |
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| 18:13.44 | ella_ | it says "ready" |
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| 18:15.08 | Anthro | ella_: Okay. And is the test page listed in the list of jobs? |
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| 18:15.15 | rking | how do i make my backspace send ^H and my delete send ^? ? i've read through HOWTO/BackspaceDelete, and it seems busy assuming that such a configuration is "deviant" that it doesn't show any clear way to do so. I've also played with xkeycaps, and can't seem to figure out what's up. and, i've done stty erase ^H and a little xterm Xresource tinkerage |
| 18:15.25 | ella_ | i'm sorry. it says idle, accepting jobs |
| 18:15.36 | ella_ | let me see |
| 18:15.39 | Anthro | ella_: That is as it should be. |
| 18:15.41 | Rawplayer | hmm whats better for a router a 2.4 or a 2.6 kernel? |
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| 18:16.26 | Fleck | Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing. << what can i do? |
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| 18:16.48 | ella_ | Anthro. when i clicked the printer name just now. it changed to "idle, rejecting jobs" |
| 18:17.26 | ella_ | oh never mind |
| 18:17.31 | Rawplayer | Fleck: apt-get update |
| 18:17.36 | Anthro | ella_: ? |
| 18:17.58 | ella_ | it's accepting jobs right now. i clicked the "accept jobs" button |
| 18:18.06 | ella_ | but it still wont print |
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| 18:18.40 | Anthro | ella_: Okay. So it's a Deskjet 600C? Are you sure it isn't just a 600 or a 610C or something? |
| 18:18.44 | Fleck | Rawplayer yep whan i do apt-get update i get that error |
| 18:19.06 | ella_ | i'm sure it's 600c |
| 18:19.21 | nkuttler | Fleck: create the directory. why did you remove it? |
| 18:19.23 | ella_ | i have the printer right here on the desk |
| 18:19.47 | nkuttler | Fleck: the error is pretty obvious, isn't it? |
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| 18:20.54 | takatumi | erroneous: add 'contrib' to your sources.list, install java-package, man make-jpkg. |
| 18:20.58 | Rawplayer | Fleck: delete archives |
| 18:21.01 | Rawplayer | then run update again |
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| 18:22.01 | sgeigerbot | Fleck: don't delete something that someone on IRC tells you to delete. ;-) Just move it out of the way (rename it) |
| 18:22.09 | nkuttler | Rawplayer: wtf are you talking about? |
| 18:22.15 | Rawplayer | ? |
| 18:22.20 | Rawplayer | that works for me |
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| 18:23.06 | sgeigerbot | Fleck: is it fixed? |
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| 18:23.29 | Anthro | ella_: Hang on. |
| 18:23.37 | Anthro | ella_: Is it a deskjet? |
| 18:23.45 | ella_ | yes :) |
| 18:23.49 | Fleck | yep thanks guys :) |
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| 18:24.08 | ella_ | printer name: HP DeskJet 600/600C - CUPS+Gimp-Print v4.2.7 |
| 18:24.08 | ella_ | (I have 600C) Default Destination: lp0 Device URI: parallel: /dev/lp0 |
| 18:24.16 | megatronx | i got a quick question...is it possible to have both realplayer & helix-player in debian or no??? |
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| 18:24.28 | sgeigerbot | Fleck: So, just to be sure: What exactly did you end up doing? |
| 18:24.33 | sgeigerbot | ..to fix it? |
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| 18:24.49 | Fleck | sgeigerbot mkdir ..../partial |
| 18:24.50 | ella_ | Anthro: thank you for helping me, btw. |
| 18:24.50 | Fleck | :) |
| 18:24.58 | Anthro | ella_: Sure. |
| 18:25.14 | takatumi | megatronx: why would you need both? |
| 18:25.35 | megatronx | just wanted to know...one for streaming... |
| 18:25.53 | Anthro | ella_: Okay, according to http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_600 you want to use the hpijs driver. Do you have it installed? |
| 18:26.01 | scx | Hello there ! |
| 18:26.08 | ella_ | yes. i got that installed :) |
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| 18:27.07 | xaero | how can i check how many days it has been since accounts have been logged into? |
| 18:27.29 | xaero | i wanna write a script to disable accounts after like 60 days of inactivity |
| 18:27.30 | nkuttler | xaero: lastlog |
| 18:27.30 | scx | ps -u |
| 18:27.53 | scx | ooops |
| 18:27.59 | scx | top -u |
| 18:28.02 | sgeigerbot | xaero: lastlog, lastb, wuzzah, last, sudo cat /var/log/auth.log (lastlog for ssh and scp) |
| 18:28.19 | liran_ | how can i check a version of a package and whether its installed or not? |
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| 18:28.49 | takatumi | liran_: dpkg -l <package> |
| 18:29.48 | pumpkin0 | liran_: aptitude => serach the pachage |
| 18:29.48 | sepski | liran_, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l package |
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| 18:30.02 | xaero | awesome thanks guys |
| 18:30.11 | xaero | any of you in here good with security ans such? |
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| 18:30.21 | xaero | i could suse someone to give me some advise on security as well |
| 18:30.52 | sepski | xaero, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
| 18:30.53 | nkuttler | xaero: install and read harden-doc as a start |
| 18:31.09 | xaero | (i have a shell server setup for my self and some friends and i dont think they would do anything to retarded but i would still like the box as secure as possible without losing functionality |
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| 18:31.52 | scx | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62121 |
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| 18:32.16 | scx | xaero: here lots of security links |
| 18:32.26 | sepski | xaero, your starting wrong already, assume the worst of everyone! |
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| 18:32.57 | Anthro | ella_: It looks like you aren't using it, though, if you are using the CUPS+Gimp-Print driver |
| 18:32.58 | abrotman | you know .. i can't put a lot of faith in a forum when someone uses this in thier personal info "Distribution: Gentoo 2004 from stage 1 baby!" |
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| 18:33.20 | ella_ | you mean the driver? |
| 18:33.27 | Anthro | ella_: Yes. |
| 18:33.39 | Anthro | ella_: You need to be using the hpijs driver to have it work well. |
| 18:33.44 | Anthro | ella_: Or possibly at all. |
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| 18:33.56 | ella_ | how do i set the driver to hpijs? |
| 18:34.14 | ella_ | i've tried to do that before thinking that's the problem |
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| 18:34.32 | ella_ | i don't know how |
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| 18:34.49 | xaero | sepski: well i assume they are dumb and if something bad would happen it owuld only be cause they dont know what they are doing |
| 18:34.50 | xaero | lol |
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| 18:34.53 | Anthro | ella_: click on Modify Printer. It basically takes you through the whole setup again. |
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| 18:35.07 | Anthro | ella_: You just choose what you had, except the driver. |
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| 18:35.25 | ella_ | ok |
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| 18:36.45 | ella_ | Anthro: i don't see it in the list |
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| 18:37.32 | Anthro | ella_: That's a problem. Are you sure you have the hpijs drivers installed? Does dpkg -l hpijs show them as installed? |
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| 18:37.56 | ella_ | yes but i will double check now |
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| 18:39.54 | pumpkin0 | network problem: ifconfig output is OK, route looks good. nevertheless pinging the other side (WLAN-AP) does not work. What other points to check ? |
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| 18:40.05 | Anthro | ella_: Sorry, you actually need foomatic-db-hpijs |
| 18:40.12 | Anthro | ella_: My mistake |
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| 18:41.32 | ella_ | Anthro: i have the foomatic-db-hpijs installed already. as well as hpijs. but hpijs is : Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
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| 18:42.12 | pumpkin0 | ella_: run "apt-get check". any messages ? |
| 18:42.12 | abrotman | pumpkin0: netmask |
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| 18:42.28 | Anthro | ella_: That's just the header line. What's the line that actually has hpijs on it? |
| 18:42.55 | ella_ | apt-get check has no messages |
| 18:43.08 | ella_ | ii hpijs 2.1.2+0.9.2-2 HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS drive |
| 18:43.50 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: ? You mean the networkmask in ifconfig ? 255.255.255.0 for the IP 192.168.1.5 (192.168.1.1 is the AP) |
| 18:43.59 | Anthro | ella_: Hrmph. It appears to be installed. It may be that the installation didn't restart cups, and it needs to be. Not sure. Try /etc/init.d/cupsys restart then start over with the Modify Printer thing. |
| 18:44.06 | abrotman | pumpkin0: and you can't ping the AP? |
| 18:44.31 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: no ping, no dns, no http.... nothing. |
| 18:44.40 | abrotman | pumpkin0: and you'er using static IPs ? |
| 18:44.54 | ella_ | o.k. i'll try that. |
| 18:44.58 | abrotman | pumpkin0: is it possible someone setup IP/MAC filtering on the AP ? |
| 18:45.47 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: yes. iwconfig looks good too.... Yes MAC-filter is enable. After rebooting with another kernel the pinging works, so is MAC should be in the ACL |
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| 18:46.12 | abrotman | pumpkin0: so you'er saying just your custom compiled kernel doesn't work ? |
| 18:46.40 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: 2 stock kernels. 2.6.09 and 2.6.11 |
| 18:46.50 | abrotman | stock from where? .. debian or your own ? |
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| 18:47.02 | pumpkin0 | debian. |
| 18:47.09 | abrotman | and neither work ? |
| 18:47.16 | S4nD3r | hi there, I delete some files, is possible to recover them :::: |
| 18:47.19 | abrotman | no |
| 18:47.20 | S4nD3r | hi there, I delete some files, is possible to recover them ? |
| 18:47.23 | pumpkin0 | 2.6.11 works, 2.6.09 doesnt. |
| 18:47.31 | abrotman | pumpkin0: so why not just use 2.6.11 ? |
| 18:47.39 | S4nD3r | Im in 2.6.5 |
| 18:47.44 | abrotman | no |
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| 18:47.47 | abrotman | gone is gone |
| 18:47.49 | abrotman | use your backup |
| 18:47.50 | ella_ | Anthro: it didn't work :( |
| 18:48.02 | abrotman | S4nD3r: and upgrade your kernel |
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| 18:48.22 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: I just want to find out why. i'm interessed in understanding why these things happen. |
| 18:48.31 | abrotman | pumpkin0: it could just be a crummy driver .. |
| 18:48.40 | abrotman | pumpkin0: are oyu using ndis wrapper ? |
| 18:49.07 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: no, ndis is not used. |
| 18:49.09 | Anthro | ella_: Hrmph. I'm kind of at a loss. I'd suggest using the KDE configuration tool, except you're GNOME-oriented. |
| 18:49.49 | Estes2 | Hey everyone... i got problem, i boot on an smp kernel and.... it only see one cpu... any idea ? |
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| 18:50.01 | abrotman | it's not an SMP kernel ? |
| 18:50.05 | abrotman | or you only have one CPU ? |
| 18:50.06 | Estes2 | t is |
| 18:50.15 | abrotman | pumpkin0: then which driver? .. does it require firmware ? |
| 18:50.20 | Estes2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.26 | abrotman | Estes2: is the system runnign right now ? |
| 18:50.31 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: ipw2XXX ... wait a sec. |
| 18:50.32 | Estes2 | abrotman, it is |
| 18:50.37 | abrotman | Estes2: uname -a |
| 18:50.44 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: ipw2200 |
| 18:50.47 | Estes2 | not yet in production so i can reboot it or whatever... |
| 18:50.49 | abrotman | Estes2: and then use `dmesg` ... does it see both |
| 18:50.58 | Estes2 | abrotman, i did, it's definitly an smp |
| 18:50.59 | abrotman | pumpkin0: you might get better answers from #ipw2100 |
| 18:51.04 | Estes2 | a sec.. |
| 18:51.13 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: will try that, thx |
| 18:51.15 | abrotman | pumpkin0: you used the debian ipw2100 packages ? |
| 18:51.27 | abrotman | Estes2: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:51.32 | ircops | hey what's the debian package name for mldonkey? |
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| 18:51.53 | abrotman | ~find mldonkey |
| 18:52.21 | ircops | k |
| 18:52.22 | abrotman | ircops: apt-file and packages.debian.org are good places to look too |
| 18:52.25 | Estes2 | abrotman, cat /proc/cpuinfo won't show it |
| 18:52.35 | Estes2 | abrotman, may it be because acpi is off ? |
| 18:52.38 | abrotman | Estes2: does the BIOS even see them both? .. |
| 18:52.40 | ircops | thanks |
| 18:52.40 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: ipw2220-source from apt. it compiles to a module for 2.6.11 and 2.6.09 kernel. |
| 18:52.46 | abrotman | Estes2: is it P4 HT cpu ? |
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| 18:52.56 | abrotman | pumpkin0: yeah .. that's a bit odd :) |
| 18:52.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: you are a !debstats whore, ain't you? |
| 18:53.00 | petykoo | hello |
| 18:53.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: fuck off and die! |
| 18:53.15 | Estes2 | from dmesg: Processors: 1 |
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| 18:53.20 | abrotman | tarzeau: i can't be .. no !debstats |
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| 18:53.33 | Estes2 | abrotman, i dono about the bios... i think i'll look at it |
| 18:53.33 | abrotman | Estes2: is it a P4 HT cpu ? |
| 18:53.45 | Estes2 | abrotman, no, PIII copermine |
| 18:53.51 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 18:53.57 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 18:54.02 | abrotman | Estes2: i'm not sure if SMP requires ACPI .. but it might |
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| 18:54.11 | Estes2 | abrotman, i'll try |
| 18:54.15 | abrotman | tarzeau: dpkg died .. along with debhelper and dondelelcaro |
| 18:54.16 | tarzeau | apt debstats |
| 18:54.18 | apt | debstats is probably taken over by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 18:54.18 | DarKnesS_WolF | how to reconfig network in debian ? i need a network configuration tool |
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| 18:54.28 | abrotman | DarKnesS_WolF: etherconf |
| 18:54.29 | Estes2 | abrotman, it was disabled because the bios is from 2000, i'll acpi=force |
| 18:54.39 | r3tex | how do i remove something from /etc/rc.X ? what's the correct tool? |
| 18:54.40 | abrotman | Estes2: the SMP was disabled ? |
| 18:54.47 | abrotman | Estes2: have you tried updating the bios |
| 18:54.48 | nkuttler | r3tex: update-rc.d |
| 18:54.48 | Estes2 | abrotman, no, acpi |
| 18:54.52 | abrotman | r3tex: update-rc.d |
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| 18:54.56 | r3tex | thanx |
| 18:55.07 | Estes2 | abrotman, i'll enable acpi to check out |
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| 18:55.11 | Estes2 | abrotman, thanks :) |
| 18:55.24 | abrotman | np |
| 18:55.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: you know what that means if there's no debhelper? |
| 18:55.41 | r3tex | nkuttler: how do i list the programs in the rc:s? |
| 18:55.47 | nvz | what is the proper way to bring up an ethernet bridge at boot? right now its been up for over 2 weeks, but if it were to reboot I have to type brctl commands manually to add the bridge, and all 3 interfaces. is this to be done in a random init script, or what? |
| 18:55.49 | Estes2 | brb |
| 18:55.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: the bot or the tool? |
| 18:55.53 | abrotman | f |
| 18:55.53 | abrotman | ; |
| 18:55.55 | abrotman | o |
| 18:55.55 | abrotman | d |
| 18:55.59 | abrotman | whoops .. missed one |
| 18:56.06 | tarzeau | ohhh :) |
| 18:56.08 | abrotman | tarzeau: the bot |
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| 18:56.35 | abrotman | nvz: i'd gues the if-up.d stuff |
| 18:56.38 | Anthro | ella_: Still there? |
| 18:56.40 | J8T5X8 | hi |
| 18:56.50 | tarzeau | sussudio_: there? |
| 18:56.55 | ella_ | Anthro: yes |
| 18:57.07 | abrotman | i don't even remember who asked anymore |
| 18:57.09 | nvz | abrotman: ? put them in /etc/init.d/ifupdown ? |
| 18:57.11 | Anthro | ella_: It might be possible to fix this in /etc |
| 18:57.15 | abrotman | ircops: ^^ |
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| 18:57.21 | ella_ | o.k. |
| 18:57.24 | abrotman | nvz: /etc/networking/if-up ? |
| 18:57.40 | abrotman | err network .. |
| 18:58.00 | abrotman | god ... /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
| 18:58.11 | abrotman | or if-pre-up.d |
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| 18:58.16 | abrotman | nvz: but just a guess |
| 18:58.36 | cougar` | Hey all |
| 18:58.39 | abrotman | nvz: i've never done such a thing .. so .. my brain is trying to keep up with your yinzer speak |
| 18:58.45 | cougar` | How do I see whop is connected to my server via sftp? |
| 18:58.51 | nvz | abrotman: I think I found it. /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/bridge |
| 18:58.54 | abrotman | yay |
| 18:59.07 | Anthro | ella_: In /etc/cups/ppds there should be something named <printer>.ppd where <printer> is the name of your printer. Is therE? |
| 18:59.20 | stew | still no dpkg? crap |
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| 19:00.01 | J8T5X8 | Im coming from the debian-de channel and they aren't very nice to me. I dont't know what I made wrong but they said, that I have to shut up... Now I'm asking you, if it is normal that debian-users aren't very nice... I hope that only the German Debianusers are like this, because I don't like to use a System when the users aren't nice... (fu** I can't speak english very good. I hope you understand what i've written) |
| 19:00.03 | stew | anyone know the "your factoids" link for dpkg? |
| 19:00.15 | nkuttler | !de |
| 19:00.17 | abrotman | ~your factoids |
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| 19:00.21 | nkuttler | ~de |
| 19:00.22 | apt | i guess de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 19:00.22 | abrotman | @your factoids |
| 19:00.23 | ravenbird_ | dpkg/apt's factoids are at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg. mine aren't on the web yet |
| 19:00.31 | LSorensen | J8T5X8: people seem nice to me. |
| 19:00.34 | abrotman | stew: but down .. you know .. offline :) |
| 19:00.37 | cougar` | rotflol |
| 19:00.39 | cougar` | OKAY |
| 19:00.40 | cougar` | How do I see whop is connected to my server via sftp? |
| 19:00.50 | nkuttler | J8T5X8: #debian-de is known for being rude |
| 19:00.54 | LSorensen | J8T5X8: it only takes one or two cranky people to make a channel very unfriendly of course. |
| 19:00.59 | stew | abrotman: oh, hrm.. |
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| 19:01.11 | surrounder | hey people |
| 19:01.12 | J8T5X8 | ok thanks than i can use debian... |
| 19:01.16 | cratos | How do I fix the allignment of my postscript printer using CUPS? |
| 19:01.22 | cougar` | lets go to debian-de and yell at them |
| 19:01.28 | LSorensen | cratos: which printer model? which driver did you pick? |
| 19:01.28 | abrotman | J8T5X8: it does happen sometimes .. the best thing to do if you're offended is to leave and go back in an hour or so(don't make a big stink about it in the channel or you'll be marked for life!) :) |
| 19:01.35 | noble- | heh |
| 19:01.44 | LSorensen | cratos: I used to have problems on mine until I picked a different driver for it |
| 19:01.47 | By-Tor | Is there a way to play something on one desktop, and have the sound pop up on another? |
| 19:01.47 | nkuttler | cougar`: rather 1. learn german 2. be nice on #debian-de |
| 19:01.51 | abrotman | J8T5X8: of course .. that's just my opinion .. which .. have been wrong once or twice :) |
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| 19:02.01 | J8T5X8 | ok |
| 19:02.03 | cougar` | hehe |
| 19:02.06 | J8T5X8 | I will leave it |
| 19:02.15 | cougar` | OKay, serisouly tho |
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| 19:02.20 | abrotman | J8T5X8: and if your english is good enogh .. you can try here |
| 19:02.29 | cougar` | Can I get a list of who is connected to my server via SFTP? |
| 19:02.31 | S4nD3r | drwxr-xr-x+ How put this + off ? |
| 19:02.32 | ircops | ~lagging |
| 19:02.33 | apt | Uhm, maybe. |
| 19:02.34 | abrotman | w/who don't do it ? |
| 19:02.34 | J8T5X8 | I hope its good enough *G* |
| 19:02.40 | nkuttler | J8T5X8: apt-get install ding |
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| 19:02.50 | abrotman | J8T5X8: just don't be offended if we tell you your english stinks :) |
| 19:02.53 | ella_ | Anthro: ppds.dat, you mean? |
| 19:03.05 | cratos | LSarensen: I have a hp 5mp, with the driver from foomatic |
| 19:03.11 | noble- | anyone know when dpkg will be back? |
| 19:03.12 | abrotman | stew: simonrvn might have a different spot for ravenbird_'s stuff |
| 19:03.22 | ella_ | oh |
| 19:03.24 | abrotman | noble-: seeing as how dondelelcaro isn't here either .. |
| 19:03.41 | noble- | I wasn't sure who ran him |
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| 19:04.05 | ella_ | ppd :p |
| 19:04.06 | nvz | hmm I guess them README.Debian.gz files are pretty important :P |
| 19:04.14 | ircops | apt: you're just as good as dpkg |
| 19:04.15 | apt | Yes, I know. |
| 19:04.17 | abrotman | nvz: sometimes |
| 19:04.29 | sepski | nvz, but read them allways just in case! |
| 19:05.14 | nvz | abrotman: it explains exactly how to setup a bridge from /etc/network/interfaces on debian. |
| 19:05.23 | abrotman | nvz: ah .. good thing you can read then |
| 19:05.24 | Jimmymaniac | Hi. Quick question: which of the log analizers available in sarge is the best for the "i wantto know the instant something happens but don't care about all those text lines" types? somebody asked me about it after i helped him install a firewall |
| 19:06.13 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac : That's not the job for a log analyzer, I think. They usually do things after it's happened.. by analyzing, you see, the logs. |
| 19:06.21 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac : But I've been wrong before. |
| 19:06.30 | nvz | though it doesnt mention if I should still put static routes for each eth interface pointing to 0.0.0.0 or whatever :P |
| 19:06.41 | cratos | LSorensen: I have a hp 5mp, with the driver from foomatic |
| 19:06.42 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac : Iptables should have the ability to send packets to an external program, which can fire off a mail. |
| 19:06.43 | nvz | I dont want to reboot to test it thats for sure |
| 19:06.47 | sepski | Jimmymaniac, something happenes ??? liek what a dropes package ? |
| 19:07.06 | ella_ | Anthro: i have *ModelName: "HP DeskJet 600/600C" (Sorry i took so long) |
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| 19:07.24 | nvz | I do however want to set it up in case it does go down, it will come back up automatically and I also want to change the bridge interface to static from dynamic configuration |
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| 19:07.32 | Jimmymaniac | i have the feeling that what he wants is something akin to the "alarms blaring and red lights flashing along with a big "INTRUDER ALERT" sign somewhere" :) |
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| 19:07.41 | Estes2 | abrotman, acpi didn't fix it, i still have only one cpu... now, the shit is... i went into the bios setup, it's only 3 choices... enable bios, enable cdrom boot, disk geometry. |
| 19:07.42 | DoM | hi all |
| 19:07.43 | Estes2 | heh |
| 19:07.44 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac : Right, that's not a log analyzer's job. |
| 19:07.46 | r3tex | what is this atd program that starts on bootup? |
| 19:07.50 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac: That's a system administrator's job. :P |
| 19:07.51 | Anthro | ella_: Where are you finding that? What's the full path to the file? |
| 19:07.54 | abrotman | Estes2: does the bios see both CPUs ? |
| 19:08.09 | sepski | Jimmymaniac, that's not a firewall thing, if the firewall could detect someone getting past the firewall illegaly... they woudn't... |
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| 19:08.27 | Jimmymaniac | Octalthorpe: i know, but he's stil kinda n00b-ish, and reading docs and all, and wanted his sugar-coating :) |
| 19:08.32 | Estes2 | abrotman, how could i even know ? the bios setup has nothing about all this |
| 19:08.38 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac : Just smack him and make him buy me beer. |
| 19:08.38 | S4nD3r | Hey |
| 19:08.39 | DoM | i have a problem when i run apt-get update or dselect.I setup ipv6 on my pc and when debian should update it try to contact ipv6 mirror and not ipv4 mirror.Any idea ? |
| 19:08.41 | S4nD3r | I have a problem |
| 19:08.41 | sepski | Jimmymaniac, you mean someting like an IDS system ? you can spend a few days on snort+acid+smssend or something :) |
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| 19:08.55 | ircops | S4nD3r: alot of us do |
| 19:08.56 | S4nD3r | I have a server running NIS, and my DEBIAN theres no NIS client... |
| 19:09.02 | abrotman | Estes2: uhm .. i'd enable the bios ? .. no idea here .. sonuds like a horrible mother board :) |
| 19:09.05 | Jimmymaniac | sepski: heh, had snort in mind too :) |
| 19:09.06 | abrotman | S4nD3r: yes there is |
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| 19:09.25 | Estes2 | abrotman, bios is enabled.... motherboard is a mylex |
| 19:09.26 | sepski | S4nD3r, and the package nis is just for show you think ? |
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| 19:09.40 | abrotman | motherboard is a mylex? .. mylex makes raid controllers |
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| 19:09.43 | J8T5X7 | ok Im back |
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| 19:09.47 | nvz | I guess when I setup interfaces, I can just ifupdown to test it without rebootings :P |
| 19:09.48 | S4nD3r | ypbind is the package |
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| 19:09.50 | J8T5X7 | and I hate WLan |
| 19:09.51 | Octalthorpe | abrotman : Shhh, don't tell his motherboard. |
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| 19:10.04 | Estes2 | abrotman, the mobo has raid.... |
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| 19:10.04 | abrotman | Octalthorpe: heh |
| 19:10.05 | Jimmymaniac | r3tex: atd is for doing stuff like "echo apt-get update | at 2:30 am" |
| 19:10.09 | Estes2 | hardware raid |
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| 19:10.18 | abrotman | Estes2: are you sure you're in the motherboard bios .. and not the SCSI bios ? |
| 19:10.21 | Estes2 | well, brb, maybe i mistaken |
| 19:10.27 | abrotman | S4nD3r: apt-cache show nis |
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| 19:10.36 | Estes2 | abrotman, no, it's not the scsi ios and not the raid one |
| 19:10.39 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac : I used to use atd as part of my alarm clock stuff. |
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| 19:10.45 | Estes2 | abrotman, bbs, i'll check again |
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| 19:11.07 | abrotman | Estes2: ok ... you're going to have to really check .. because if your Mobo doesn't have simple bios functions(like updating the clock) .. i'd toss the motherboard :) |
| 19:11.10 | S4nD3r | Conflicts: netstd (<= 1.26) |
| 19:11.15 | S4nD3r | how solve that |
| 19:11.18 | J8T5X7 | is it allowed to have smalltalks here? or will I get kicked? |
| 19:11.21 | brynjarh | How do you speed up CD-Ripping in Debian? It's rather slow and I think it's a common problem, I've found multiple guides on how to do it and each one has some different ideas on how to do it, isn't there one "debian way" of doing it? |
| 19:11.22 | jcohen85 | my debian system is failing to start up properly. After loading bttv "bttv0: PLL can sleep, using XTAL" it just sits there without an error |
| 19:11.30 | Estes2 | abrotman, what do think i' thinking about ? :P |
| 19:11.33 | cratos | LSorensen: Did the foomatic driver fix it for you? |
| 19:11.39 | ella_ | Anthro: /etc/cups/ppd/Deskjet-600_600C.ppd. Am I looking for a driver? |
| 19:11.42 | nkuttler | brynjarh: you don't want it to be fast, you want it to be correct |
| 19:11.45 | Jimmymaniac | Octalthorpe: heh, i've mostly used it to fire wget in strategic moments :) |
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| 19:11.51 | abrotman | Estes2: or at least open the case and get a part number off the mobo |
| 19:12.05 | sepski | brynjarh, a good rule of thumb is make sure you have dma enabled |
| 19:12.10 | Noxious | Can someone point me to some help setting up ssmtp as a local network email relay? |
| 19:12.12 | cougar` | Damn |
| 19:12.15 | Anthro | ella_: No, that's what I was hoping you'd find. How large a file is it? What does wc -l tell you about it? |
| 19:12.15 | Estes2 | abrotman, i'll have a deep look into this... :) |
| 19:12.18 | cougar` | HOW DO I list SFTP sessions |
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| 19:12.19 | Estes2 | abrotman, thanks |
| 19:12.20 | cougar` | Grrrr |
| 19:12.20 | abrotman | Estes2: good plan ... |
| 19:12.31 | abrotman | Estes2: i know those smp kernels work .. i use them :) |
| 19:12.36 | madclicker | what is famd? |
| 19:12.41 | Octalthorpe | Jimmymaniac : Like to send the maps to the rebels just before the bunker is stormed...? |
| 19:12.41 | abrotman | !fam |
| 19:12.42 | abrotman | bah |
| 19:12.45 | abrotman | @fam |
| 19:12.45 | ravenbird_ | [fam] a piece of software that monitors changes in inodes to track missing or deleted files. It is required by efm, and it is a bitch to compile with g++., or http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/, or something that requires an apt-get install portmap |
| 19:12.46 | ella_ | Anthro: 32.2kb |
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| 19:12.57 | Jimmymaniac | Octalthorpe: more or less ;) |
| 19:13.05 | Anthro | ella_: Okay, good. |
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| 19:13.07 | Estes2 | abrotman, i'm more used to run clusters usually to get this but now i make a cluster of smp machines... |
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| 19:13.22 | Estes2 | bbs |
| 19:13.26 | brynjarh | how do you talk to the bot here? The one with all the standard information.. |
| 19:13.33 | Noxious | @bot? |
| 19:13.34 | ravenbird_ | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 19:13.45 | Noxious | @help |
| 19:13.46 | Octalthorpe | !lart ravenbird_ |
| 19:13.51 | Octalthorpe | ~lart ravenbird_ |
| 19:13.53 | madclicker | i got famd using 99.9 % of cpu resources. and no applications would launch.etch |
| 19:13.53 | sepski | cougar`, i guess it depends on what ftp server your running |
| 19:13.55 | nvz | bah I am confused again. |
| 19:13.55 | Octalthorpe | There it is. |
| 19:14.15 | Noxious | !ravenbird |
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| 19:14.21 | Octalthorpe | ~ravenbird |
| 19:14.22 | apt | methinks ravenbird is so cool, or simonrvn's blootbot |
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| 19:14.27 | jcohen85 | is there any kind of rescue option for a debian system. i don't know why my system isn't booting properly. i don't get an error |
| 19:14.29 | sepski | brynjarh, and you should talk to it in msg |
| 19:14.43 | cougar` | I'm allowing friends of mine to log into my server via SFTP. SSH subsystem. BUT I can't see if there are active connections. |
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| 19:14.51 | Octalthorpe | cougar` : 'netstat' |
| 19:14.56 | madclicker | anyone "famd" what is it? |
| 19:15.07 | brynjarh | sepski, is "apt" the bot? |
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| 19:15.16 | cougar` | Octalthorpe : That's alot of info |
| 19:15.21 | Octalthorpe | cougar` : netstat -t |
| 19:15.25 | sepski | brynjarh, ravenbird_, |
| 19:15.44 | Noxious | Anyone want to help me with my SMTP problem? |
| 19:15.48 | ella_ | Anthro: i did a "name" text search and it comes up with : StpDriverName:"pcl-600" , *PCFileName:"STP00199.PPD", *ModelName: "HP DeskJet 600/600C" in the file. |
| 19:15.51 | cougar` | okay, sftp runs on port 22 |
| 19:15.55 | questi | are there any application that has tab system without "konsole"? |
| 19:15.59 | Octalthorpe | cougar` : Yes. |
| 19:16.00 | cougar` | How do I see which ports the connections are on Octal? |
| 19:16.05 | sepski | cougar`, tried who ? |
| 19:16.05 | Anthro | ella_: Sure. Hang on. |
| 19:16.07 | Octalthorpe | cougar` : netstat -t | grep ssh |
| 19:16.15 | Octalthorpe | cougar` : Or netstat -tn | grep :22 |
| 19:16.23 | nvz | br0 and eth1 (bridge uplink to gateway) to both have dynamic IPs right now. if I change network interfaces to iface br0 inet static and give it address 10.0.0.10 network 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.255 bridge_ports eth0 eth1 eth2. do I 1) have to specify somewhere also the gateway? 2) have to specify somewhere either statically or dynamically eth1 ? |
| 19:16.39 | Octalthorpe | cougar` : Some ps magic will probably get your info, too, since the ssh process will be running as the logged-in user. |
| 19:16.41 | brynjarh | sepski, mm he doesn't answear me. |
| 19:17.04 | sepski | brynjarh, answers me. /msg ravenbird_ test |
| 19:17.15 | Octalthorpe | brynjarh : Why not just use apt? |
| 19:17.21 | nvz | I am moving from manually built bridge following /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/HOWTO to automatic bridge in the interfaces following /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/README.Debian.gz |
| 19:17.21 | Octalthorpe | Apt is your friend. Apt loves you. |
| 19:17.23 | Octalthorpe | ~botsnack |
| 19:17.23 | apt | Octalthorpe: thanks |
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| 19:17.35 | cougar` | That's cool! |
| 19:17.38 | Octalthorpe | nvz : There's your problem there; you're nvz, not confused. |
| 19:17.49 | nvz | Octalthorpe: :( |
| 19:18.05 | nvz | no i am confused and I need some advice :P |
| 19:18.19 | J8T5X7 | Do somebody know how to install the NVidia driver of Nvidia.com? |
| 19:18.19 | Octalthorpe | nvz : Be yourself, and always wear sunscreen. |
| 19:18.32 | Octalthorpe | nvz : BTW, I'm only being glib because I have no idea what the solution to your problem is. |
| 19:18.38 | olczyk | Hey. For the first time I am installing linux on a box with a network connection. What advice can you give me about firewalls. |
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| 19:18.46 | brynjarh | Octalthorpe, sepski nether apt or ravenbird_ answear me, don't I just say nvidia and it will give me information on nvidia? |
| 19:18.54 | sepski | nvz, you have an ip on eth1 while also having that interface in the bridge ?? that's not entierly sane is it ? |
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| 19:19.06 | Octalthorpe | brynjarh : Apt doesn't seem to know the bit you want to know about nvidia. |
| 19:19.16 | Anthro | ella_: Move that .ppd file aside and run the following: foomatic-ppdfile -d hpijs -p HP-DeskJet_600 > /etc/cups/ppd/Deskjet-600_600C.ppd |
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| 19:19.21 | J8T5X7 | I installed the kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386 but the NVdriver installation cant found it |
| 19:19.25 | J8T5X7 | *find it |
| 19:19.34 | nvz | Octalthorpe: solution to future problem is to leave it the fuck alone until I have a problem :P cause its been working for 2 weeks. I just want to configure it now so that if it should go down, it can bring itself back up |
| 19:19.37 | Anthro | ella_: Then /etc/init.d/cupsys restart |
| 19:19.45 | Anthro | ella_: Then try printing again. |
| 19:19.45 | brynjarh | oh I see now --> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
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| 19:19.50 | Octalthorpe | nvz : Why not just make a simple initscript? |
| 19:19.51 | rwong | Hi; is there a better (more new) or different version of the new maintainer's guide? |
| 19:20.00 | rwong | it seems like a few of the steps are dated |
| 19:20.05 | Octalthorpe | nvz : Sometimes the Wrong way is easiest. :) Actually, a lot of the time the wrong way is easiest... |
| 19:20.07 | cheal | J8T5X: nobody can help without knowing what command you're talking about |
| 19:20.12 | Octalthorpe | nvz : That, or just use some post-ups in /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 19:20.20 | cheal | J8T5X7: nobody can help without knowing what command you're talking about |
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| 19:20.35 | By-Tor | Never mind, I got it |
| 19:20.37 | J8T5X7 | yeah just a moment. i will write the problem |
| 19:21.00 | ella_ | Anthro: done |
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| 19:21.07 | By-Tor | export DISPLAY=10.1.1.10:1; mplayer -vo xv whatever.avi |
| 19:21.10 | nvz | sepski: I dont know eth1 has 10.0.0.11 and br0 has 10.0.0.18. I've followed the HOWTO and did brctl addbr br0, brctl addif eth[0-2], ifconfig eth[0-2] 0.0.0.0, dhclient br0 and its been bridging for 2 weeks. I want to set it up right now so its perminant |
| 19:21.13 | TheGoatMan | hi, how do I install window maker? |
| 19:21.15 | Anthro | ella_: Did it work? |
| 19:21.16 | abrotman | Estes2: okeedokee |
| 19:21.23 | ella_ | no :-( |
| 19:21.27 | Tzan | I have a parse error in /var/lib/dpkg/available when I do an "apt-get upgrade". How can I fix that? |
| 19:21.28 | nvz | sepski: thats what I am asking for help on.. the two ips is confusing me too :P |
| 19:21.48 | sepski | nvz, you just add a br0 interface stanca in interfaces with bridge_ports whatever. and put all the network info on thatone, and leave the interfaces that are part of the bridge unconfigured. that works for me, |
| 19:22.06 | sepski | you should never have an ip on a bridge member |
| 19:22.19 | nvz | sepski: do I need to say gateway 10.0.0.1 in the bridge stanza? the README.Debian.gz didnt mention it |
| 19:22.24 | sepski | nvz, if you need additional ip's for your box then use several ip's on the br0 interface |
| 19:22.33 | J8T5X7 | I need to install the NVdriver from NVidia.com. I downloaded it. And tried to install it. But the installation said, that it can't find the Kernel-sources. But I Installed the kernel-headers package for my Kernel version. But it cant find it. So it cant compile the NVdriver. |
| 19:22.43 | sepski | nvz, only if your box should have a default gateway, |
| 19:22.45 | TheGoatMan | !ask window maker |
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| 19:23.06 | nvz | sepski: my bridge has 3 nics one connects to the gateway and the other two connect with crossovers to my other systems. |
| 19:23.11 | sepski | nvz, eg if you have a interface ppp0 that is not part of the bridge that have the gateway then you should not (obviously) |
| 19:23.12 | TheGoatMan | hello? |
| 19:23.17 | ella_ | Anthro: testpage printing says, client-error-not-possible.. |
| 19:23.24 | nvz | sepski: they are all one big workstation I am using. I only have one net cable in here |
| 19:23.24 | cheal | !tell J8T5X7 about nvidia-installer |
| 19:23.27 | Anthro | ella_: Hrmph. |
| 19:23.28 | antgel | sepski: you can have an ip on a bridge for ssh maintainence purposes |
| 19:23.37 | sepski | nvz, then yes you want a gateway. your bridge will function without, but your bridge box wont have internet |
| 19:23.39 | TheGoatMan | I done apt-cache search for window maker but it just found apps |
| 19:23.42 | cheal | J8T5X7: #debian won't help you to break your box *that* badly |
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| 19:24.19 | sepski | J8T5X7, use the nvidia one liner instead easier safer and it works |
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| 19:24.49 | J8T5X7 | the nvidia one liner? what is that? |
| 19:24.54 | ella_ | i had the printer working great with kde what is different this time except i installed gnome..? |
| 19:25.02 | cheal | J8T5X7: it won't help you |
| 19:25.05 | nvz | sepski: oh, well yeah the bridge needs internet, cause thats what I run my critical services on cause I shut everything else down. I've got Irssi uptime: 24d 15h 33m 49s on this box :P |
| 19:25.09 | petykoo | bye |
| 19:25.09 | cheal | !tell J8T5X7 about nvidia-howto |
| 19:25.17 | By-Tor | TheGoatMan: apt-get install wmaker |
| 19:25.17 | Octalthorpe | cheal : dpkg is MIA. |
| 19:25.22 | cheal | hum |
| 19:25.30 | cheal | !smite cheal |
| 19:25.40 | sepski | @tell J8T5X7 about nvidia one-liner |
| 19:26.02 | J8T5X7 | do you mean the nvidia driver howto on debian.org? cheal? |
| 19:26.03 | nvz | this is the minor problems I will be dealing with today. next I need to get an email address, and try recreating a kernel bug |
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| 19:26.31 | cheal | J8T5X7: I don't know of such a thing. Andrew Schulman's Debian-nVidia HOWTO will help you |
| 19:26.46 | Octalthorpe | nvz : Want gmail? |
| 19:26.56 | nvz | Octalthorpe: should I? |
| 19:27.01 | J8T5X7 | can you give me the link to the howto? |
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| 19:27.05 | Octalthorpe | nvz : It's what I use; works pretty well. |
| 19:27.12 | Octalthorpe | nvz : I can't promise privacy, though. |
| 19:27.13 | sepski | nvz, well that means your interfaces file should have just 1 stanca the br0 one nothing about eth[0-2], with all the network information and bridge_ports all |
| 19:27.14 | Anthro | nvz: gmail is good for funneling mailing lists. |
| 19:27.21 | cheal | J8T5X7: google for "Debian-nVidia HOWTO" |
| 19:27.27 | J8T5X7 | ok thanks |
| 19:27.36 | Anthro | nvz: I run all my public mailing lists through it, then suck it down with fetchmail. |
| 19:27.48 | nvz | gmail seems strange you have to be invited. sounds like you can be thrown out too |
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| 19:28.04 | green_earz | J8T5X7: checkout the link for the nvidia howto > http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ |
| 19:28.07 | hns | J8T5X7, http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/index.html |
| 19:28.15 | nvz | I dont need additional hassles tied into the already annoying email crap |
| 19:28.28 | sepski | nvz, i tend to leave the configuration for eth interfaces in place, just comment away the auto eth[0-2] lines that way i can easily bring up an interface if i should need it. |
| 19:28.29 | Anthro | nvz: You don't have to be invited anymore, as long as you have a way to receive an SMS message. |
| 19:28.31 | MacNamera | gmail works indeed fine, but is it safe? I guess it is 'spying' all your mails and use this for advertising purpuses |
| 19:28.51 | abrotman | that's ok .. becuase gmail is where i send my spam :) |
| 19:28.53 | cheal | nvz: give a redirection address. I use hotpop, but others may be better |
| 19:28.57 | Anthro | MacNamera: It's safe for things that are public anyway, like mailing lists. |
| 19:28.57 | J8T5X7 | thanks to all... you where very nice... instead of the debian-de guys ^^ |
| 19:29.18 | nvz | I havent used email in like 5 years because of how annoying it is. I considered it an unnessicary stress and stoped trying to use it as a useful form of communication |
| 19:29.24 | Estes2 | abrotman, i missed the setup key appearing since it disappear very fastly... it seems it doesn't read the cache and such of the second cpu... i'll open the box... |
| 19:29.35 | mixmatch | spying, oh god. they are gonna know I'm cheating on my girlfriend, or that I hate my boss, or that I'm building a competing site |
| 19:29.38 | Estes2 | and i understand why it sucks, seems the mobo is an intel |
| 19:29.40 | nvz | Anthro: and wtf is an SMS message? |
| 19:29.42 | mixmatch | ahhhhhhhhhhh, must bo cancel |
| 19:29.44 | MacNamera | Antrhro: lets stick to the subject OK |
| 19:29.51 | abrotman | Estes2: hrm .. that's not good |
| 19:30.00 | abrotman | Estes2: normally the intel boards are good .. maybe you're missing the VRM ? |
| 19:30.02 | Octalthorpe | nvz : Cellphone text message. |
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| 19:30.12 | Estes2 | what's vrm ? |
| 19:30.21 | nvz | Octalthorpe: thats stupid |
| 19:30.21 | abrotman | Voltage Regulator Module |
| 19:30.24 | abrotman | ~vrm |
| 19:30.25 | apt | somebody said vrm was You need to make sure that you have a VRM matched ot your processor,that the VRM supports VID (Voltage IDentification). |
| 19:30.26 | Octalthorpe | nvz : *shrugs* |
| 19:30.30 | Estes2 | intel boards are the worse i ever been working with in personal comps anyways |
| 19:30.31 | Octalthorpe | nvz : Better than a weak captcha. |
| 19:30.49 | abrotman | Estes2: the server boards are different |
| 19:30.52 | Anthro | MacNamera: That was sticking to the subject. I'm talking about safe usage of an insufficiently private resource. |
| 19:31.08 | Estes2 | oki |
| 19:31.14 | nvz | oh well I am going to blow the bridge and allow it to reconstruct itself now |
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| 19:31.30 | green_earz | nvz: do you still use a " carriage pigeon " |
| 19:31.34 | nvz | stand clear, any packets travelling the bridge may be killed |
| 19:32.09 | MacNamera | Anthro:k, got it, but that also counts for almost the whole internet IMHO |
| 19:32.13 | nvz | I use personal relations |
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| 19:32.32 | nvz | beats telephone, snail mail, email.. all of em |
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| 19:33.15 | nvz | if someone takes the time to bring it to your face, you've got a better chance of it being worth listening to |
| 19:33.17 | simonrvn | nvz++ |
| 19:33.49 | mess-mate | hi, anyone could tell me how setup a ultra-minimum base to compile and setup a debian from scratch ? |
| 19:33.55 | EdgEy | can i stop firefox/flash from outputting sound |
| 19:33.55 | cheal | my favorites are TV, POTS and email |
| 19:33.58 | Anthro | MacNamera: It's a matter of degree. For truly private communication you can only rely on whispering in someone's ear while the two of you are sequestered in a windowless room shielded by a few meters of lead in every direction. And even then you can't be certain. |
| 19:34.04 | mess-mate | ...can.. |
| 19:34.06 | nvz | bah wtf |
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| 19:34.15 | simonrvn | EdgEy: easiest is to just rmove flash ;) |
| 19:34.22 | Jimmymaniac | heh, found a nice flashy-lights add-on for snort, too bad it's in java, but oh well... |
| 19:34.24 | nvz | getting major lag and I havent even wired the explosives yet |
| 19:34.33 | EdgEy | simonrvn, would be nice but i want flash to work still ;) |
| 19:34.54 | simonrvn | why? :). just teasing... :) |
| 19:35.34 | Octalthorpe | nvz : The packets are all trying to get over before it blows up? |
| 19:35.43 | simonrvn | been trying to get irssi svn to build, but if it's not one thing, it's another... |
| 19:35.47 | Jimmymaniac | http://freesoftware.lookandfeel.com/samjr/ and screenshots here: http://freesoftware.lookandfeel.com/samjr/screenshots.html <-- that should be it :) |
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| 19:35.50 | Anthro | EdgEy: You can stop firefox from emitting sound by setting the dsp wrapper to something custom that doesn't output sound. |
| 19:36.03 | Jimmymaniac | still, i'll try to get him to leart to not depend on that stuff |
| 19:36.08 | antgel | simonrvn: am i right in thinking that you're a mac man? |
| 19:36.10 | simonrvn | like /dev/null =) |
| 19:36.10 | MacNamera | Anthro: that is a good point! but there was an article in the newspaper that the mob loves to use PGP to communicate...I feel this is saying a lot |
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| 19:36.14 | NP_complete | hi all |
| 19:36.22 | simonrvn | antgel: yeh |
| 19:36.33 | Anthro | MacNamera: Do they use PGP or GPG, that's what I want to know. |
| 19:36.45 | antgel | simonrvn: don't suppose you happen to know what format the dvd-rw in a g4 uses? need to replace one |
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| 19:37.08 | simonrvn | antgel: not a clue |
| 19:37.09 | Octalthorpe | Anthro : PGP.. but the copies they have fell off the back of a truck. |
| 19:37.12 | MacNamera | Anthro: PGP |
| 19:37.18 | Anthro | Octalthorpe: Heh. Very nice. |
| 19:37.22 | NP_complete | I dont want to start the X automaticly, i want to remove xdm, gdm.. how, tell me! |
| 19:37.27 | nkuttler | antgel: what do you mean what format? get the specs? |
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| 19:37.40 | MacNamera | Octalthorpe: hihihihi...that is a good one! |
| 19:37.41 | Anthro | NP_complete: apt-get remove xdm gdm kdm |
| 19:37.55 | NP_complete | no. |
| 19:38.02 | Octalthorpe | NP_complete : Uhm, yes. |
| 19:38.04 | antgel | simonrvn: i know there's different dvd write formats, but take little interest in it, and i don't want to put the wrong one in for my customer. no bother, i'll look it up :) |
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| 19:38.21 | NP_complete | ok ok |
| 19:38.24 | Anthro | NP_complete: That is the answer to your question. Would you like to try asking another one to see if you get a different answer? |
| 19:38.38 | NP_complete | ok, excuse me please |
| 19:38.51 | MacNamera | Quite a pity for teflon don Gotti that there wasn't pgp at his time... |
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| 19:38.55 | J8T5X7 | I think he wants to kill it from init |
| 19:39.09 | Noxious | So any help on setting up sstmp? |
| 19:39.26 | J8T5X7 | that gdm kdm xdm dont start automatically, but you can start it manually |
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| 19:39.29 | Octalthorpe | NP_complete rm -rf /etc/rc*.d/*gdm etc. |
| 19:39.42 | nkuttler | J8T5X7: /msg apt nodm |
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| 19:39.45 | Gnea | uhm |
| 19:39.47 | nkuttler | Octalthorpe: no |
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| 19:40.21 | sepski | @sstmp |
| 19:40.21 | J8T5X7 | hö? |
| 19:40.23 | Gnea | update-rc.d -f remove gdm |
| 19:40.23 | J8T5X7 | oh sry |
| 19:40.27 | NP_complete | If i run "apt-get remove xdm" it want to remove my x-system!! |
| 19:40.28 | Noxious | @sstmp |
| 19:40.30 | Noxious | ? |
| 19:40.34 | sepski | Noxious, what is sstmp ? some kind of tmpfs ? |
| 19:40.39 | Octalthorpe | NP_complete : It's probably just removing the metapackage. |
| 19:40.47 | Noxious | It's a just a simple smtp server. |
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| 19:40.51 | Noxious | As far as I can tell. |
| 19:41.03 | Anthro | NP_complete: No, it just wants to remove the virtual package that depends on all sorts of X stuff. It won't remove the X server. |
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| 19:41.09 | MacNamera | does anyone know if there is a minimum of memory to let knoppix live dvd 4.0 run fluently? |
| 19:41.15 | NP_complete | ok |
| 19:41.17 | Noxious | I am trying to set up an email relay so my old software can connect to an SMTP server that won't ask for authentication. |
| 19:41.19 | cheal | MacNamera: ask #knoppix |
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| 19:41.26 | sepski | Noxious, you ask for help, but give no detail what so ever what you want it to do, or what your problem is at all.. |
| 19:41.28 | Octalthorpe | MacNamera : Probably around 64-128, my guess. |
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| 19:41.42 | Anthro | Noxious: What's wrong with exim4? |
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| 19:41.53 | Octalthorpe | Anthro : Lots of stuff, actually... |
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| 19:42.00 | Zugschlus | Noxious: are you talking about an open relay? |
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| 19:42.05 | J8T5X7 | MacNamera! you need a bit of memory to run KDE |
| 19:42.05 | Levi- | when I run /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/imapd.rc start I get this error: ll_daemon_start: Resource temporarily unavailable. What does that mean, and how can I fix it? |
| 19:42.06 | Anthro | Octalthorpe: Works For Me (tm) |
| 19:42.10 | Noxious | yes. Essentially. |
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| 19:42.22 | Noxious | Though I would only want to allow this one computer to use it. |
| 19:42.25 | sepski | Noxious, any mta in debian can do that, but nullmailer is nice accets mail from your localhost and sends it onward it a smathost |
| 19:42.33 | Anthro | Levi-: Why are you trying to start courier-imap that way? |
| 19:42.48 | sepski | Noxious, not nullmailer if the aplication isn't on localhost that is |
| 19:42.49 | MacNamera | Octalthorpe: my pc has 512 mb but it isn't running as I had expected, but hey...what an amazing amount of software you got on this dvd! |
| 19:42.58 | ella_ | Anthro: I had the printer name changed to lp in the browser few minutes ago. i did "foomatic-ppdfile -d hpijs -p HP-DeskJet_600 > /etc/cups/ppd/lp.ppd" and then restarted the "cupsys". |
| 19:43.00 | Noxious | Yes, it's on a different server. |
| 19:43.00 | Anthro | Levi-: /etc/init.d/courier-imap start |
| 19:43.07 | Levi- | Anthro: same failure there.. |
| 19:43.11 | ella_ | Anthro: it works now. you're great!! |
| 19:43.19 | ella_ | Thanks |
| 19:43.20 | Anthro | ella_: Ah, excellent! |
| 19:43.25 | Anthro | ella_: Glad I could help. |
| 19:43.32 | ella_ | :-D |
| 19:43.36 | BlueLotus | I have a linksys wireless card and a d=link wrieless router. They do work fine together, but when I first turn on my laptop with the card in it, and it cuts into the frequency and obtains an ip, the router won't accept it. I have to reboot my router and then dhcpcd and everything works fine. Any idea why this is? |
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| 19:44.26 | J8T5X7 | BlueLotus: Do you have a mac filter?? (is it filter in english???) |
| 19:44.27 | EtherNet_Work | how do I upload a file to an ftp with USER, PASSWD, by just a command line.. for e.g. ftp -u user -p passwordofitsuser /home/file/to/upload /remotedirectorytoputfile |
| 19:44.30 | Rasko|nikov | hi |
| 19:44.46 | Rasko|nikov | am i the only who is having problems with anjuta since today? |
| 19:45.04 | BlueLotus | I'm not sure, J8T5X7 |
| 19:45.10 | BlueLotus | How do I find out? |
| 19:45.25 | NP_complete | anjuta? i prefer emacs |
| 19:45.25 | J8T5X7 | Oh it works when you reboot it? |
| 19:45.28 | madclicker | hello, i am usng etch and a process "famd" is killing my system. What is famd? |
| 19:45.30 | TheGoatMan | how do I change the window maker theme? |
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| 19:45.47 | J8T5X7 | ok BlueLotus then it cant be the mac filter |
| 19:46.04 | ella_ | i can print using gnome applications now. this is awesome. |
| 19:46.13 | ella_ | thanks again Anthro. |
| 19:46.16 | ella_ | :-) |
| 19:46.17 | Anthro | madclicker: It watches the filesystem for changes and provides programs subscribing to it with notifications. |
| 19:46.19 | ella_ | bye now |
| 19:46.20 | Anthro | ella_: No problem. |
| 19:46.22 | nkuttler | TheGoatMan: iirc there are no themes, just styles |
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| 19:46.33 | sepski | madclicker, it's something that monitor filesystems for alterations, i'v had issues with it on removeable devices |
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| 19:46.39 | antgel | TheGoatMan: it's in the menu |
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| 19:46.42 | nkuttler | TheGoatMan: click on the clip or whatever icon is in one of the corners |
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| 19:46.43 | BlueLotus | Oh. Okay. I set my laptop up to have a static ip address, thinking this would solve the problem, but it still does not. I'm very vexed. |
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| 19:47.00 | madclicker | sepski, can i kill it? |
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| 19:47.10 | nvz | was the channel under attack or is the limit just not being updated since debhelper isnt around? |
| 19:47.21 | sepski | madclicker, sure |
| 19:47.23 | questi | do you know a good terminal emulator for debian kde |
| 19:47.28 | antgel | urxvt |
| 19:47.28 | madclicker | i cant launch any applications , everything is very slow |
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| 19:47.33 | Anthro | questi: xterm? |
| 19:47.35 | questi | i want tabbing system with shortkey :s |
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| 19:47.45 | nkuttler | nvz: probably the latter |
| 19:47.46 | Anthro | questi: konsole? |
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| 19:47.50 | J8T5X7 | BlueLotus: I dont know what it can be. |
| 19:47.59 | BlueLotus | ty J8T5X7 thx |
| 19:47.59 | sepski | !ops up the channel limit manualy ? |
| 19:48.01 | questi | Anthro: i couldn't find shortkey for konsole tabs.. |
| 19:48.03 | sepski | @ops up the channel limit manualy ? |
| 19:48.04 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: up the channel limit manualy |
| 19:48.07 | J8T5X7 | try to call the DLink hotline BlueLotus! |
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| 19:48.39 | Anthro | questi: I'm pretty sure it's there. You should be able to configure it. |
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| 19:49.04 | madclicker | sepski, wow , what a diff, would you know why it is taking up 99/9 procent of CPU time. Is etch broken? |
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| 19:49.35 | J8T5X7 | does etch work good? or is it a really testing edition? |
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| 19:49.46 | S4nD3r | How to know if my client is running NIS Client correctelly ? |
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| 19:50.18 | nkuttler | S4nD3r: read /usr/share/doc/nis? |
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| 19:50.38 | TheGoatMan | I cant see themes in there anywhere |
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| 19:50.50 | nkuttler | TheGoatMan: search for style |
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| 19:50.58 | nvz | anyhow my bridge is now only allowing me to ping the local network. I can ping the gateway (10.0.0.1) and nodes behind the bridge (10.0.0.5 on eth0) and 10.0.0.14 (windows box on the other side of the bridge. my network interfaces is at http://pastebin.com/377127 and the output of route is http://pastebin.com/377131 |
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| 19:51.02 | TheGoatMan | search where? |
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| 19:51.11 | nkuttler | TheGoatMan: doh! in the menu |
| 19:51.21 | sepski | madclicker, no but i have had issues with famd on sarge and etch. ususaly involving usb storage or smb mounted filesystems |
| 19:51.26 | antgel | TheGoatMan: workspace->appearance->themes |
| 19:51.38 | nvz | what I done was tear down the bridge and then type ifup br0 allowing it to come up the debian way.. so something must be misconfigured |
| 19:51.38 | dmacdonald111 | Hi all. Can anyone point me in the right direction to getting bcmwl5 to use with ndiswrapper? I have been trawling the internet and cannot find it. |
| 19:51.44 | sepski | madclicker, should be a way to tell it to skip certain mountpoints |
| 19:51.56 | nvz | because it was working before that :P |
| 19:51.57 | Rasko|nikov | mmm, does anybody know of a nice text file format converter? |
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| 19:52.13 | Romano | hi there ! i'm trying to share a cups printer (tested and working) via samba. |
| 19:52.18 | S4nD3r | How to know if my client is running NIS Client correctelly ? |
| 19:52.20 | antgel | Rasko|nikov: your question is pointless and meaningless |
| 19:52.24 | nkuttler | Rasko|nikov: convert from what to what? fmt? |
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| 19:52.42 | Romano | my windows client sees the printer, can connect to it, but Status is "Access denied. Can't connect" |
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| 19:52.56 | EtherNet_Work | how do I upload a file to an ftp with USER, PASSWD, by just a command line.. for e.g. ftp -u user -p passwordofitsuser /home/file/to/upload /remotedirectorytoputfile |
| 19:53.08 | Rasko|nikov | nkuttler, for example, from unix to windows |
| 19:53.11 | nvz | if someone could help me and my network bridge and clients reach the internet again it would be nice :) |
| 19:53.18 | antgel | Romano: have you tried just printing to it? |
| 19:53.24 | sepski | Ether_Man, depends on yourt ftp client program, and a lot easier with scp anyway |
| 19:53.27 | antgel | Rasko|nikov: unix2dos |
| 19:53.32 | nkuttler | Rasko|nikov: apt-cache search convert dos unix |
| 19:53.35 | Romano | antgel: yes, it doesn't work |
| 19:53.38 | Rasko|nikov | ok, thanx |
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| 19:53.49 | Romano | antgel: but i can print a test page via the cups admin |
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| 19:53.50 | EtherNet_Work | sepski, some ftp client for console which does it |
| 19:53.52 | TheGoatMan | ahh yeah found i |
| 19:53.54 | TheGoatMan | thanks |
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| 19:53.57 | Anthro | questi: konsole does, indeed, have hotkeys. You can change them from Configure Shortcuts but they default to Shift-Left and Shift-Right. |
| 19:54.00 | ralf | sed s/\r\n/\n/ |
| 19:54.05 | TheGoatMan | I've got a cool predator theme |
| 19:54.15 | antgel | Romano: *nod* try going start -> run, typing in a share, authenticating, then try to print again |
| 19:54.29 | Rasko|nikov | flip is my solution |
| 19:54.45 | Condector | hey, anyone run a doom3 in debian with sound??? |
| 19:54.57 | antgel | !tell Condector about anyone |
| 19:55.02 | antgel | doh |
| 19:55.03 | Anthro | nvz: What is your bridge issue? |
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| 19:55.09 | Romano | antgel: i can transfer files using samba, i'm already authenticated |
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| 19:55.20 | J8T5X7 | Condector: do you run it with wine? |
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| 19:55.25 | Anthro | antgel: We have to flame *manually*! It's terrible! |
| 19:55.31 | nvz | Anthro: cannot reach the internet after bringing up the bridge via ifup br0 |
| 19:55.33 | antgel | Romano: then no idea. i get this when a win machine boots up, before i authenticate to a file share |
| 19:55.41 | Romano | :/ |
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| 19:55.51 | Anthro | nvz: Ah. Sadly, I can't help you. |
| 19:55.56 | antgel | Anthro: i'll have to program my F-keys :) |
| 19:56.02 | Anthro | nvz: No, wait, I can. |
| 19:56.09 | nvz | heh |
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| 19:56.27 | Romano | antgel: i read on a french tutorial ('cause i'm french) that i had something like "cupsaddsmb -a", it doesn't work |
| 19:56.36 | Anthro | nvz: It's almost certainly a routing problem. Have you looked at the difference between route's output before and after bringing it up? |
| 19:56.41 | Anthro | nvz: That should be telling. |
| 19:56.59 | Noxious | Here is the whole problem.... An old application on a windows server needs to connect to SMTP server, that doesn't require any authentication. I have a nice new Debian server doing samba sitting here. I thought to myself. Maybe I could just set up a simple oneway SMTP server. Here is the question, how do I do that? I need a good example setting one up. |
| 19:57.00 | nvz | Anthro: route output is in one of the pastebins I posted |
| 19:57.18 | Anthro | nvz: I haven't been paying much attention to your issue until now. |
| 19:57.22 | nvz | http://pastebin.com/377131 |
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| 19:58.09 | Noxious | I have tried using ssmtp and it seems to work well for local machine mail, but I can't seem to find how I let others connect to the machine as an SMTP server. |
| 19:58.09 | nvz | my bridge only allows me to ping the local network. I can ping the gateway (10.0.0.1) and nodes behind the bridge (10.0.0.5 on eth0) and 10.0.0.14 (windows box on the other side of the bridge). my network interfaces is at http://pastebin.com/377127 and the output of route is http://pastebin.com/377131 |
| 19:58.37 | Anthro | nvz: That would be be before or after bringing up br0? |
| 19:58.52 | nvz | Anthro: after thats right now |
| 19:59.04 | Anthro | nvz: Do you have a before? |
| 19:59.07 | elorco | I've got a problem with my apt-get :( when i try to update (Sorry but i dont remember if it's correct) first it tries to conect to all servers at the same time and... it doesnt work; not only i dont get de packeages.gz lists but i get disconected from the internet (no de lan area network... I can conect with vnc to my mac and my mac have internet :/) |
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| 20:00.00 | nvz | Anthro: nope but I am sure I could ifdown br0 and build the bridge manually again |
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| 20:00.20 | nvz | Anthro: before both br0 and eth1 had IPs now only br0 does |
| 20:00.20 | Anthro | nvz: I'd like to see it in a working condition. |
| 20:00.25 | J8T5X7 | oh I will be back in a few minutes... bye |
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| 20:00.41 | Anthro | nvz: I don't know WTF chadmin is. |
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| 20:01.00 | nvz | Anthro: its all greek to me |
| 20:01.07 | elorco | hurmm... ¿can anyone help me :'(? |
| 20:01.10 | nvz | ah fuck! heh |
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| 20:01.18 | nvz | forgot I cant ifdown br0 from ssh |
| 20:01.20 | nvz | :P |
| 20:01.21 | elorco | oh, sorry for the "¿" I'm spanish :$ |
| 20:01.29 | nvz | now I got to go set it up again |
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| 20:01.56 | J8T5X7 | back |
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| 20:02.19 | error403 | Im planning on editing my partition table of my main hard drive, do i need to do this from a liveCD distro, or can i do it via parted while still running Debian? |
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| 20:03.36 | Mr-R | error403: it would not be wise to change mounted partitions... |
| 20:03.39 | relbs | I'm using ext2resize to shrink one of my ext3 partitions, and it appears to complete successfully, but when I reboot, the partition size doesn't look like it's changed at all. I'm booting to a live linux cd when I do the resize... anyone know what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 20:04.34 | J8T5X7 | I edited the partition table while debian was running. but I only killed the home partition. But i saved the files before. Then I created a new, smaller home partition and moved the files on the new partition. then I restartet the Computer.. It does work |
| 20:04.50 | error403 | Mr-R, not changing any mounted partitions, just turning my old windows partition into ext3 ... |
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| 20:05.40 | Mr-R | error403: that should work without the live-cd. |
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| 20:06.09 | J8T5X7 | error403: but dont destroy the boot patition! ^^ |
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| 20:06.20 | johey | I have a problem with lm-sensors. I have ran sensors-detect, and that one recommends me some modules to load. After loading them, I run sensors. It says "No sensors found!". What can I do? I have an Asrock mobo and sensors-detect recommends the following modules: w83627hf, w83781d, eeprom, i2c-isa and i2c-viapro. |
| 20:06.28 | Levi- | when I run /etc/init.d/courier-imap start I get this error: ll_daemon_start: Resource temporarily unavailable. What does that mean, and how can I fix it? |
| 20:06.28 | johey | I have loaded all the recommended modules. |
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| 20:06.50 | error403 | Mr-R, ok - is there any way to remount / as read-only, because i need to dd my root drive to the new partition afterwards... |
| 20:07.25 | error403 | J8T5X7, boot partition? as in boot sector of the drive, or the actual partition it has the bootloader in? |
| 20:07.35 | S4nD3r | How do I run a backup in my server in way that the backuped file be saved in my machine ? |
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| 20:08.09 | J8T5X7 | I was talking about /boot but it was only a joke error403 |
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| 20:08.20 | error403 | J8T5X7, oh, ok... |
| 20:08.23 | error403 | hehe |
| 20:08.45 | error403 | are there any graphical partition managers available in the debian repos? |
| 20:08.56 | abrotman | qpartd .. maybe ? |
| 20:09.01 | Mr-R | error403: ops. for the dd i would recommend the root partition to be offline. such as booting from the live.cd |
| 20:09.12 | error403 | Mr-R, oh, ok, thanks |
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| 20:09.46 | error403 | abrotman, cant find that in the repos... |
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| 20:10.08 | S4nD3r | How do I run a backup in my server in way that the backuped file be saved in my machine ? |
| 20:10.09 | abrotman | !find partd |
| 20:10.15 | abrotman | rsync |
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| 20:10.17 | abrotman | tar |
| 20:10.20 | abrotman | cpio |
| 20:10.21 | abrotman | mv |
| 20:10.22 | abrotman | cp |
| 20:10.34 | error403 | ? |
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| 20:10.40 | abrotman | bah |
| 20:10.41 | abrotman | ~find partd |
| 20:11.02 | elorco | abrotman, i've got a problem with my apt-get :( |
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| 20:11.07 | abrotman | don't we all |
| 20:11.11 | error403 | i did apt-cache search for partd |
| 20:11.12 | RogueDopple | ha ah |
| 20:11.15 | error403 | and for parted |
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| 20:11.24 | abrotman | error403: nothing ? |
| 20:11.27 | error403 | and i even have debian backports and stuff |
| 20:11.29 | error403 | and nothing |
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| 20:11.39 | error403 | apart from libparted and parted itself... |
| 20:11.46 | abrotman | in sarge? |
| 20:11.51 | error403 | abrotman, yes |
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| 20:12.03 | elorco | I've got a problem with my apt-get :( when i try to update (Sorry but i dont remember if it's correct) first it tries to conect to all servers at the same time and... it doesnt work; not only i dont get de packeages.gz lists but i get disconected from the internet (no de lan area network... I can conect with vnc to my mac and my mac have internet :/) -- sry for the repeat |
| 20:12.05 | error403 | and i have debian backports, and a couple of extra repos |
| 20:12.06 | abrotman | error403: you looked at apt-get.org ? |
| 20:12.10 | error403 | plus contrib and non-free |
| 20:12.14 | error403 | hmm, ill take a look |
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| 20:12.53 | J8T5X7 | I cant remember correctly but i think there was a grafical fdisk version... but i dont know the name of it |
| 20:12.57 | lars | hi all |
| 20:13.01 | elorco | ouaaaaaaaaa noone can help me? |
| 20:13.16 | lars | elorco what kind of prob you've got ? |
| 20:13.25 | olczyk | Hey I have questions about linux firewalls. The first one is, are there different firewalls for Linux? |
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| 20:13.49 | lars | i don't know ;) i've got no firewall :P |
| 20:13.50 | lars | haha |
| 20:14.00 | elorco | lars can i say you in a priv? i think its no correct to repeat it three times ;) |
| 20:14.13 | lars | yes |
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| 20:14.16 | lars | tell me |
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| 20:14.32 | error403 | abrotman, nothing on apt-get.org either... |
| 20:14.43 | Elly | how do I get bash not to beep when I tab complete? |
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| 20:15.08 | outlaw84 | I wanto try my softmodem by making a call with it anyone here that has got a suggestion on what application to use? |
| 20:15.51 | J8T5X7 | error403: try cfdisk /dev/hd... |
| 20:16.34 | error403 | thanks J8T5X7, that will do for now! |
| 20:16.36 | error403 | hehe |
| 20:16.52 | error403 | nicer interface than parted or fdisk... |
| 20:17.26 | abrotman | error403: SoL ? |
| 20:17.32 | abrotman | ~simple sid backport |
| 20:17.34 | apt | it has been said that simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :) |
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| 20:17.55 | elorco | lars ¿?¿? |
| 20:18.15 | nvz | well when I do ifdown br0, then brctl addbr br0; brctl addif br0 eth1; ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0; dhclient br0, I get this http://www.pastebin.com/377153, but if I just ifup br0 from my /etc/network/interfaces file at http://pastebin.com/377127 I can only ping local hosts gateway, and hosts on either side of the bridge no internet hosts (though dns seems to resolve) and route output is http://pastebin |
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| 20:18.17 | nvz | .com/377131 |
| 20:18.23 | error403 | abrotman, i'm trying to stay away from unstable at the moment... |
| 20:18.33 | abrotman | it's a backlport |
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| 20:18.50 | SexyKen | Hey guys, how would I set my linux time to EST? |
| 20:18.57 | finley | is there an nfs specific irc channel? |
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| 20:19.05 | nvz | I need help getting my bridge to work properly from config files instead of having to set it up manually all the time :( |
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| 20:19.43 | finley | SexyKen: try "tzconfig" |
| 20:19.54 | SexyKen | Dont have it. |
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| 20:20.33 | nvz | cause with this not working I have to sit on a windows pc with chatzilla :P nobody should have to suffer this agony |
| 20:20.37 | finley | ls -l /etc/localtime |
| 20:21.00 | elorco | lars, im goin' to reboot |
| 20:21.10 | finley | rm /etc/localtime ; ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST /etc/localtime |
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| 20:21.19 | La_mano | any one can help me ??? |
| 20:21.32 | elorco | La_mano, depende.. xD |
| 20:21.37 | finley | assuming that /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST exists, and /etc/localtime currently points elsewhere. |
| 20:21.46 | La_mano | i need to change my terminal type to ansi....who con i do that ??? |
| 20:21.57 | J8T5X7 | I have to sit on a windows pc too... because it is the onliest computer who have an analog modem (is it modem in english?) |
| 20:22.09 | saloxin | nvz: bridge under which kernel? |
| 20:22.12 | theD3viL | Why i have white menus when i go on it with mouse in mozilla firefox? iam using sarge. |
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| 20:22.51 | La_mano | ??????????? |
| 20:22.53 | ircops | anybody know a good place to get factpacks for a blootbot? |
| 20:23.18 | SexyKen | finley, that worked -- but my server now thinks it's 15:22 EST -- itsn't it really 16:22? |
| 20:23.21 | flankk | I'm searching for a password management GTK application which functions similar to kwallet. I have a USB thumb I need to use as an additional authentication method. |
| 20:23.29 | nvz | saloxin: its the 2.4.25-1 kernel from the sarge d-i beta right now. I am upgrading the kernels today they are really old. just trying to do network stuff first so I dont have to bring them down all at once anymore today |
| 20:23.32 | johey | Solved my problem with lm-sensors. |
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| 20:23.47 | saloxin | nvz: isn't simply echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/proxy_arp ? |
| 20:23.57 | La_mano | someone help me please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:24.04 | finley | SexyKen: yes, it is. |
| 20:24.12 | nkuttler | La_mano: well what terminal do you use? |
| 20:24.16 | saloxin | nvz: and same for ip_forwarding or whatchamacallit |
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| 20:24.42 | finley | try this: "sudo rdate -s time.nist.gov", if you think your time is actually off. |
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| 20:24.58 | S4nD3r | Which is the best way to make backup automatically, and send this backup.tar.gz to another machine using ssh ? |
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| 20:25.02 | resiak | ircops: Yeah, I do. You put it in your channel with people who add them. |
| 20:25.04 | finley | and if it's not off, shouldn't hurt anything either |
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| 20:25.09 | La_mano | i dont know....im connecting to a remote server but it say that my term is unknow to it... |
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| 20:25.11 | finley | what do you get now? |
| 20:25.13 | ircops | resiak: sweet. |
| 20:25.15 | ircops | :D |
| 20:25.17 | J8T5X7 | rdate? cool i dont know this command |
| 20:25.26 | J8T5X7 | is it for time too? |
| 20:25.30 | SexyKen | finley, Still shows 15:2x |
| 20:25.32 | ircops | I just remember that infobots had fact packs, but I dunno about blootbots |
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| 20:25.58 | SexyKen | finley -- could it be some sorta daylight saving things? |
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| 20:26.22 | finley | yes. that's the next thing to address |
| 20:26.24 | flankk | Nobody uses a password manager, or even a USB drive in a secure keyring? |
| 20:26.35 | nvz | saloxin: those two commands alone changed nothing |
| 20:26.48 | SexyKen | finley -- how do I address that? |
| 20:26.50 | nvz | saloxin: except the value of two sysctls |
| 20:27.05 | nvz | saloxin: that I have no idea what they are or why I need them on |
| 20:27.11 | saloxin | you're setting up a bridge right? so you need box to to do arp proxying? |
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| 20:27.48 | saloxin | nvz: so this way it would answer arp's on on side if it is known on other side |
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| 20:28.56 | nvz | saloxin: I have no idea. I setup the bridge exactly how it says in the bridge-utils HOWTO and it worked for 2 weeks. thats the brctl addbr br0, brctl addif [0-2], ifconfig eth[0-2] 0.0.0.0, dhclient br0. and it works. but with ifup br0 it does not, so I figured its either my network/interfaces or something in my route |
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| 20:29.37 | nvz | I provided my interfaces file and a before/after of the route command |
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| 20:29.46 | ScottMac | Is it possible to install something from etch without updating everything? I only want one package |
| 20:29.50 | finley | try linking to this instead: /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern |
| 20:30.06 | saloxin | nvz: aj, oki missed the first part.. /ignore me :-/ |
| 20:30.08 | ony | hello, i want a program that can draw a graphic map of my ethernet network on a web server and can monitor the computers for up/down stats. can someone recomand such a program.. i can't find anything like it |
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| 20:30.29 | resiak | Psycho275: Turn that script off, please. |
| 20:30.30 | valdyn | !info libc6 etch |
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| 20:30.34 | valdyn | !info libc6 sarge |
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| 20:30.37 | RogueDopple | no the time is 16:30 damn it |
| 20:30.39 | RogueDopple | he he |
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| 20:30.40 | priest | ScottMac, it's possible. |
| 20:30.46 | Gnea | hrm |
| 20:30.52 | J8T5X7 | oh i will try, if the guys on debian-de are nicer now... ;) |
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| 20:30.57 | S4nD3r | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.57 | S4nD3r | no crontab for root |
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| 20:31.15 | S4nD3r | How to add a event in my one ^ |
| 20:31.21 | mz_work | ony: maybe etherape |
| 20:31.21 | finley | SexyKen: try linking to this instead: /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern |
| 20:31.22 | resiak | S4nD3r: man crontab |
| 20:31.25 | nvz | I know I am clueless but I got it to work following /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/HOWTO .. WTF cant I get it to work following /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/README.Debian.gz!! heh |
| 20:31.37 | nvz | I want it to be perminant now |
| 20:32.00 | Gnea | this wireless router is pissing me off, it's an airlink, i'm kinda sure it's a 54G... the admin password appears to have been changed and i can't get the firmware to reset itself... has anyone ever encountered one of these things? |
| 20:32.01 | ScottMac | priest: easily? |
| 20:32.02 | finley | it and EST differ (according to diff), but it and /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York are identical. |
| 20:32.05 | nvz | I dont want to have to type 8 commands to bring up my bridge every time :P |
| 20:32.09 | La_mano | i need to change my type of terminal to ansi...how can i do that ???????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 20:32.22 | nvz | @ep |
| 20:32.23 | ravenbird | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:32.31 | Gnea | La_mano: export TERM=ansi |
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| 20:32.58 | mz_work | Gnea: a wrt54g? there is a reset switch on the back |
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| 20:33.07 | La_mano | thankx..... |
| 20:33.30 | nvz | oh well I am going to have to build the bridge manually again and submit to d-u I guess |
| 20:33.37 | vladster | has anyone worked with Squid,tor and privoxy in conjunction? |
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| 20:34.04 | nvz | sucks everyone is as clueless as me on bridging matters :P |
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| 20:34.13 | JuanCraft | hi |
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| 20:34.19 | vladster | bridging on what? |
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| 20:34.28 | nvz | ethernet bridging |
| 20:34.44 | vladster | nvz: in regards to what |
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| 20:36.21 | vladster | I know that can be set up on a router but as to doing it in Linux, I am not too familiar with the handling of ethernet interfaces |
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| 20:36.52 | azol | hi all. how can I make my daughter able to login without entring a password? |
| 20:37.00 | saloxin | nvz: i used this for my bridge - no brctl involved: http://www.linuxguruz.com/iptables/howto/2.4routing-16.html |
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| 20:37.14 | nvz | I built a bridge following /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/HOWTO doing "brctl addbr br0; brctl addif br0 eth[0-2]; ifconfig eth[0-2] 0.0.0.0; dhclient eth0" and it worked for the past two weeks, when following /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/README.Debian.gz and writing an interfaces file, and doing ifup br0 I cannot reach internet hosts. |
| 20:37.17 | J8T5X7 | are you using gdm/kdm azol? |
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| 20:37.49 | azol | J8T5X7: kdm |
| 20:37.55 | JuanCraft | hi... |
| 20:38.01 | J8T5X7 | then go into the kcontrol |
| 20:38.08 | J8T5X7 | to the configuration of kdm |
| 20:38.11 | boo | How do I get the newest stable kernel with apt-get? |
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| 20:38.31 | Anthro | boo: You mean 2.6.13? |
| 20:38.33 | JuanCraft | someone knows if the ntfs partition its unable to read from a user? |
| 20:38.33 | resiak | boo: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
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| 20:38.36 | J8T5X7 | and then go to the last tab |
| 20:38.51 | boo | thanks resiak |
| 20:38.52 | J8T5X7 | there you can allow login without password |
| 20:38.56 | JuanCraft | cuz i try and i cant. |
| 20:39.02 | resiak | boo: Unless you mean 2.6.13 ? |
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| 20:39.07 | Anthro | JuanCraft: your grammar opaque sentence makes |
| 20:39.16 | resiak | boo: I was assuming (probably unhelpfully) that you mean the newest kernel in Sarge. |
| 20:39.18 | J8T5X7 | sry azol: my english isn't very good ^^ |
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| 20:39.44 | JuanCraft | Anthro: Because i try and i cant. |
| 20:39.52 | Anthro | JuanCraft: Cant what? |
| 20:40.01 | boo | resiak: I suppose that depends. Which will the 2.6-386 get me? |
| 20:40.06 | nvz | saloxin: ok. but I dont know what any of that shit is. all I know is what works and what doesnt. I am following debian specific files here. if nobody here knows I will wrap it all up and submit to d-u |
| 20:40.17 | resiak | boo: 2.6.8, which is Sarge's 2.6 kernel. |
| 20:40.21 | Anthro | JuanCraft: There's something involving an ntfs partition, but I can't figure out what you're trying to do to it. |
| 20:40.22 | JuanCraft | Anthro: read a ntfs part. from a user. |
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| 20:40.32 | saloxin | nvz: yeah, do that. |
| 20:40.35 | JuanCraft | Anthro: i can mount it.. |
| 20:40.43 | Anthro | JuanCraft: So you've mounted an ntfs partition as root and you can't read it as a user? |
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| 20:41.03 | azol | J8T5X7: thanks |
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| 20:41.40 | nvz | saloxin: the only difference I see between my brctl commands and my interfaces is that I declare eth[0-2] with 0.0.0.0 in the manual way, and I get different route output |
| 20:41.54 | nvz | why one works and the other doesnt or what its called..and all that I have no idea |
| 20:42.11 | Mxyzpltk | child bridge interfaces should be ipless |
| 20:42.38 | Mxyzpltk | all ip addys go in brN where N is the bridge number |
| 20:42.55 | nvz | thats great mine too |
| 20:43.12 | dspstv | libsndfile.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, but the directory is there...what could this be? |
| 20:43.18 | nvz | the point is here it only does its job when I type 8 commands to build the bridge manually |
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| 20:43.27 | nvz | doesnt work automatically from ifup |
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| 20:43.53 | Mxyzpltk | post your interfaces file |
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| 20:44.24 | Anthro | dspstv: It may be there but not where it can find it. |
| 20:44.42 | nvz | I have posted the interfaces file and the before/after of the route like 4 times now http://pastebin.com/377127 , 337131 , 337153 |
| 20:44.57 | dspstv | Anthro, uhmm i've runned ldconfig |
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| 20:45.13 | Mxyzpltk | good, not everybody is reading what happens... relax |
| 20:45.13 | Anthro | dspstv: Uh-huh. And where is libsndfile.so.1? |
| 20:45.15 | dspstv | Anthro, im sure i have solved this one before..i just dont remember |
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| 20:46.02 | S4nD3r | Is it possible the OS send a message to a remote machine ? |
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| 20:46.12 | dspstv | Anthro is here: # ls -la /usr/local/lib/libsndfile.so.1 |
| 20:46.12 | dspstv | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 20 Sep 25 15:00 /usr/local/lib/libsndfile.so.1 -> libsndfile.so.1.0.11 |
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| 20:47.46 | saloxin | dspstv: add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig -v |
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| 20:48.38 | Anthro | dspstv: Yeah, what saloxin said. ldconfig doesn't look in /usr/local/lib by default, I believe. |
| 20:48.57 | dspstv | uhmm merci, i will try it |
| 20:50.05 | nvz | this chatzilla makes it real hard to relax, its fugly as hell and difficult for an irssi user to use. |
| 20:50.27 | resiak | nvz: Get irssi then |
| 20:51.09 | dspstv | saloxin, Anthro.. thanks it worked and now i can run the program! |
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| 20:51.20 | saloxin | dspstv: :) |
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| 20:51.35 | Electron | how do I untar .tar? |
| 20:51.47 | Rogue` | whats the best cd/dvd burning app? |
| 20:52.00 | Electron | Rogue`, k3b |
| 20:52.19 | Rogue` | just removed all kde stuff :/ |
| 20:52.31 | saloxin | nvz: tried declaring each interface staticly with a 0.0.0.0 address in interfaces? |
| 20:52.45 | saloxin | Electron: tar xvf file.tar |
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| 20:53.25 | saloxin | tar --usage cracks me up.. alphabetsoup! |
| 20:53.44 | nvz | resiak: I have irssi, but I am leaving my bridge in a state where it cannot reach the internet so people can act like they know what the problem is :P If people would just be honest and say they dont know, I would build it manually again, eat lunch and happily reach a wider audence with my issue by submitting to a mailing list |
| 20:54.36 | RogueDopple | nvz: i don't know |
| 20:54.38 | RogueDopple | :) |
| 20:54.45 | RogueDopple | well not in linux OS |
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| 20:54.57 | resiak | nvz: I meant get irssi on Windows :) I'm sorry, I can't help with your bridging problem... |
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| 20:55.40 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: when you start it with ifup does the child interfaces have the UP flag? |
| 20:55.52 | ak70 | hi,does anyone have some news about gnome2.12? |
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| 20:56.17 | Estes2 | abrotman, was a bios setting.... Thanks man, got smp enabled now |
| 20:56.19 | Anthro | ak70: It isn't as good as you hope, and you are missing nothing by not having it. Nothing to see here. Move along. |
| 20:56.45 | nvz | resiak: they have irssi for windows now? |
| 20:56.52 | resiak | nvz: Cygwin. |
| 20:57.33 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: yes all interfaces br0, lo, eth0, eth1, eth2 are all UP |
| 20:57.40 | clif4d | Hi, how do I get id3 tag support in krename (proberly some kfile or kio plugin missing i would guess) ? |
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| 20:58.10 | ak70 | really? how does the cairo-powered interface look like? |
| 20:58.10 | Electron | mm, window maker is a really nice wm |
| 20:58.18 | Electron | Hey I want to report a bug |
| 20:58.26 | nvz | resiak: its not my pc.. I can install chatzilla in firefox without anyone knowing its there |
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| 20:58.32 | abrotman | Estes2: i win? |
| 20:58.33 | Electron | X kept crashing before, it stopped now |
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| 20:58.47 | Electron | but I crashed afew times earlyer |
| 20:58.50 | nvz | I am ssh into my bridge right now.. its still lets me use it this way.. just doesnt reach the internet |
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| 21:00.05 | S4nD3r | My ? doesnt work... snif |
| 21:00.05 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: are routes beeing set? default gateway? |
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| 21:00.34 | resiak | nvz: Huh, fair enough. |
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| 21:00.49 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I posted the output of route before and after |
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| 21:01.32 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: http://pastebin.com/377153 is what I get with ifup br0 |
| 21:01.33 | bucky | ak70, if you really got to have it you could try garnome http://cipherfunk.org/garnome/faq.html |
| 21:02.16 | S4nD3r | My (?) key doesnt work... Who setup this ? |
| 21:02.20 | ak70 | i tried, but it is really unstable. |
| 21:02.31 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: when you do a traceroute to the internet, where does it stop? |
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| 21:03.11 | S4nD3r | my keyboard doesnt work the ? key |
| 21:03.13 | bucky | ak70, that's prolly why it's not in any of the apt repos... i have 2.10.2.3 in etch and i like it |
| 21:03.34 | resiak | S4nD3r: Then how are you typing "?" ? |
| 21:03.45 | S4nD3r | copy/past |
| 21:03.49 | nvz | apt, find bin/traceroute$ |
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| 21:05.23 | S4nD3r | please, help me |
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| 21:05.59 | finley | RogueDopple: does rogue now make a dopplebock? |
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| 21:06.25 | RogueDopple | what |
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| 21:06.48 | finley | RogueDopple: Rogue brewery. They make a Dopple Bock beer? |
| 21:06.59 | RogueDopple | really i did not know that |
| 21:07.02 | nvz | it says on p.d.o that the only match is remstats-bintools |
| 21:07.09 | nvz | that doesnt sound right to me |
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| 21:07.19 | finley | RogueDopple: see, rogue's beers are pretty good, and I'd be interested in their dopplebock if they made one. I'll check... |
| 21:07.25 | nvz | what package is traceroute in? |
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| 21:07.41 | RogueDopple | thanks finley let me know, for now din din time |
| 21:07.55 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: "traceroute" in etch, probably the same for all |
| 21:07.58 | saloxin | nvz: traceroute |
| 21:08.14 | finley | RogueDopple: nope. here's the beer list: http://www.rogue.com/brews.html |
| 21:08.19 | abrotman | http://www.rogue.com/brews.html |
| 21:08.21 | abrotman | doh! |
| 21:08.29 | user12 | can someone help me in configuring a laserjet series II printer? cups and foomatic do not detect that the printer is attached? It was not plugged in during sarge installation - how do I get sarge to detect the printer? |
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| 21:08.35 | finley | RogueDopple: they do have a "Dopple Mogul" though..., heh. |
| 21:08.37 | JuanCraft | hi |
| 21:08.43 | finley | abrotman: cheers. |
| 21:08.52 | JuanCraft | i have a little problem... |
| 21:08.52 | abrotman | finley: though .. i don't see much of any real variety |
| 21:09.12 | nvz | ah fuck. thats a small problem |
| 21:09.12 | JuanCraft | when i try to read my ntfs partition i get the following error. |
| 21:09.15 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:~$ mount /mnt/win_c/ |
| 21:09.15 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:~$ cd /mnt/win_c/ |
| 21:09.15 | JuanCraft | bash: cd: /mnt/win_c/: Permiso denegado |
| 21:09.24 | nvz | not online, so fetching traceroute isnt going to be easy |
| 21:09.24 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:~$ cat /etc/fstab |grep win_c |
| 21:09.25 | JuanCraft | /dev/sda1 /mnt/win_c auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 21:09.25 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:~$ |
| 21:09.30 | abrotman | debhelper!!!!! |
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| 21:09.53 | thingfish | wow, no debhelper. |
| 21:10.06 | thingfish | it's so hard to get good help these days. |
| 21:10.10 | thingfish | <sigh> |
| 21:10.16 | Aim_Here | JuanCraft, the obvious thing to check is the permissions on /dev/sda1 and /mnt/win_c |
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| 21:10.35 | Mr-R | JuanCraft: never mount ntfs rw |
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| 21:11.19 | Aim_Here | JuanCraft, once that's all been checked, try setting the umask option in your fstab |
| 21:11.20 | nvz | apt, info traceroute sarge |
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| 21:11.26 | abrotman | finley: my local is http://slyfoxbrew.com/ .. yum yum stuff |
| 21:11.29 | finley | abrotman: but their chocolate stoute is definitely worth a try. |
| 21:11.54 | abrotman | finley: warning!!!!!!!!!!! it's flash :) |
| 21:12.13 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: wait.. |
| 21:12.15 | finley | abrotman: no prob -- i'm running linux. |
| 21:12.30 | abrotman | finley: and i usually go to the phoenixville one |
| 21:12.39 | Wibble- | hi - I'm looking at installing a 2.6 kernel image... and I just noticed there is a "transition" package - I assume I shouldn't use that one? (i.e. install which? kernel-image-2.6-686 or linux-image-2.6-386 or linux-image-2.6.12.1.686 ?) |
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| 21:13.22 | abrotman | linux-image-2.6-686 probably |
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| 21:13.40 | Wibble- | why probably? :P when might that not be the one? |
| 21:13.54 | thingfish | I wish I could enjoy those heavier beers, but I just can't. About the strongest I can go is an ale, like Anchor Steam or Sam Adams or Chimay. |
| 21:13.59 | abrotman | because then if the kernel gets updated .. it would pull it |
| 21:14.07 | abrotman | thingfish: sly fox is the place for you! |
| 21:14.23 | thingfish | ok, thanks abrotman. |
| 21:14.24 | finley | bah, i'm in chicago. no local distribution. |
| 21:14.27 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: ok... look |
| 21:14.35 | abrotman | thingfish: they have a good variety .. IPA,stouts,porter, ale .. hefeweizen .. yummy stuff |
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| 21:14.43 | abrotman | finley: you'll just have to go to philly :) |
| 21:14.43 | Wibble- | ok |
| 21:14.44 | Wibble- | thanks |
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| 21:14.48 | finley | heh |
| 21:14.48 | thingfish | sound good, abrotman. |
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| 21:14.53 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:/mnt$ cat /etc/group |grep tux |
| 21:14.54 | JuanCraft | disk:x:6:tux |
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| 21:15.01 | finley | say, i've got a misbehaving rpc.mountd |
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| 21:15.07 | Jacky^ | hi |
| 21:15.11 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:/mnt$ ls -l /dev/sda1 |
| 21:15.11 | JuanCraft | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2004-07-22 14:54 /dev/sda1 |
| 21:15.12 | finley | takes like 99% cpu when a client does a mount |
| 21:15.20 | stefanin_ | I'm trying to get SOUND working. If I play a CD, I can hear it (barely) on the pc speaker. What should I do? Thanks in advance... |
| 21:15.22 | thingfish | oh cool, suburban philadelphia. I have a lot of relatives in norristown. |
| 21:15.25 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:/mnt$ ls -l /mnt/ |
| 21:15.25 | JuanCraft | total 8 |
| 21:15.25 | JuanCraft | drwxrwxr-x 2 root disk 4096 2005-09-27 18:51 win_c |
| 21:15.25 | JuanCraft | drwxrwxr-x 2 root disk 4096 2005-09-27 18:51 win_d |
| 21:15.27 | finley | can't figure out why |
| 21:15.32 | JuanCraft | and still have the same problem... |
| 21:15.35 | abrotman | thingfish: my office is about 5 minutes from norristown |
| 21:15.36 | finley | any ideas? |
| 21:15.40 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: well its saying network unreachable |
| 21:15.41 | JuanCraft | any ideas? |
| 21:15.44 | thingfish | heh neat |
| 21:15.47 | Jacky^ | cant get apt-upgrade working: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/ncurses-base_5.4-9_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:15.55 | Jacky^ | any idea ? |
| 21:16.02 | abrotman | thingfish: and norristown is about .. 10-15 min from sly fox |
| 21:16.12 | thingfish | cool |
| 21:16.25 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: did u see? |
| 21:16.33 | thingfish | If I ever get around to visiting them, I'll have someplace to check out. |
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| 21:16.47 | abrotman | thingfish: yay! |
| 21:16.52 | thingfish | :) |
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| 21:17.17 | abrotman | thingfish: if you actually really like beer .. i can name 3-4 breweries within .. 30 minutes of norristown that are worth trying |
| 21:17.20 | NP_complete | how to tell grub tham my root filesystem is at hda6? where is menu.list? |
| 21:17.34 | abrotman | maybe 5 |
| 21:17.40 | Aim_Here | JuanCraft, shouldn't /dev/sda1 have o+rw permissions too? |
| 21:17.41 | finley | NP_complete: ls /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:17.45 | thingfish | abrotman: wow, sounds like the place to be if you like beer. |
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| 21:17.52 | abrotman | thingfish: no .. i hate beer! |
| 21:17.56 | abrotman | hehe |
| 21:18.01 | thingfish | hehe |
| 21:18.03 | abrotman | @buckabeer |
| 21:18.07 | abrotman | oh well |
| 21:18.09 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: seems normal considering there is no route to the gateway |
| 21:18.24 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: though why am I logged in to it remotely through ssh if thats true |
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| 21:18.38 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: no route to the gateway? |
| 21:18.40 | finley | NP_complete: you prolly want your ^root entry to say: root (hd0,5) |
| 21:18.47 | wossname | CUPS! USBFDS>?// ??? |
| 21:18.47 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: there is one in your pastebin |
| 21:18.48 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: wait.. |
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| 21:19.49 | finley | (?does grub go by part # or readable fs#?...) |
| 21:19.52 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: ok.. |
| 21:19.55 | JuanCraft | engine:/dev# ls -l sda1 |
| 21:19.55 | JuanCraft | brw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 8, 1 2004-07-22 14:54 sda1 |
| 21:20.00 | JuanCraft | but the same.. |
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| 21:20.09 | JuanCraft | tux@engine:~$ cd /mnt/win_c/ |
| 21:20.09 | JuanCraft | bash: cd: /mnt/win_c/: Permiso denegado |
| 21:20.22 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: doh, thats the pastebin from before when I set it up manually this is what it looks like currently http://pastebin.com/377131 |
| 21:20.25 | wossname | he;lp how do i printed |
| 21:20.28 | jmg | doogie: ping |
| 21:20.45 | Aim_Here | Now man mount, and pay attention to the umask bit |
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| 21:21.02 | nkuttler | finley: partition nr, but starts with 0 |
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| 21:21.07 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: actually _now_ it only shows |
| 21:21.08 | nvz | 10.0.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 br0 |
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| 21:21.49 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: the umask bit its the same used in chmod? |
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| 21:22.15 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: in octal? owner,group,others? |
| 21:22.16 | Aim_Here | I think it's octal 777 minus the chmod number |
| 21:22.21 | wossname | please how do i make cups see my usb printed |
| 21:22.28 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: thanks |
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| 21:22.48 | felipefg | actually is the bitwise negation of the chmod |
| 21:22.51 | Aim_Here | I suggest you check the man mount page though |
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| 21:23.13 | Aim_Here | Heh, Isn't that what I said, felipe? |
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| 21:23.24 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: my buffer got full and I lost your pastebin for the interfaces file, can you tell it to me again |
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| 21:23.32 | wossname | my cups has holes it will not print usb |
| 21:23.36 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I can ping 10.0.0.10 (bridge) and 10.0.0.5 (behind bridge) from here on 10.0.0.14 which is in front of the bridge. |
| 21:23.40 | NP_complete | I got kernel panic :( |
| 21:23.41 | felipefg | yeah, that is :-) |
| 21:23.51 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: http://pastebin.com/377127 |
| 21:23.51 | Aim_Here | Just checking |
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| 21:24.28 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: thanks |
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| 21:26.56 | user12 | is there a special package I need to install to get sarge to detect printers? I already have printconf and foomatic installed - neither one recognizes that there is any printer connected |
| 21:27.09 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: do you get any output from ifup? |
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| 21:27.38 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: no errors, just says something about brining up the bridge and it will wait for 32seconds |
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| 21:28.35 | NP_complete | Kernel panic: Can't open root device "hda6" or unknown block. |
| 21:28.37 | NP_complete | why? |
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| 21:28.45 | NP_complete | my root fs is there! |
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| 21:28.59 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: ok... |
| 21:29.03 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: is the machine close to you? try this just for the kick of it, add the default gw manually, then ifdown -a, then ifup -a or even better, /etc/init.d/networking stop and then start... |
| 21:29.03 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: look.. |
| 21:29.08 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: i have sometime wrong? |
| 21:29.10 | JuanCraft | engine:/etc# cat /etc/fstab |grep sda1 |
| 21:29.10 | JuanCraft | /dev/sda1 /mnt/win_c auto uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0777,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 21:29.15 | JuanCraft | something.. |
| 21:29.16 | JuanCraft | soryr |
| 21:29.18 | JuanCraft | sorry |
| 21:29.22 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I dont uderstand what is going on. it seemingly has no route to the gateway, yet its working properly all except that the bridge and all connected boxes have no internet. all interal services are still working. I am ssh into it right now. |
| 21:29.32 | abrotman | debhelper .. come back! .. we miss your anti-flooding powers! |
| 21:29.35 | vjacob | do people buy ipods due to itunes and/or the design alone? and how well is the ipod support on linux? |
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| 21:29.55 | abrotman | vjacob: no .. it's because there's a little vial of Steve Jobs sperm in each box! |
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| 21:30.10 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: I've had bad experience with ifup when I play with stuff manually and then try to use it, it gets funky when it trys to bring down something is not there or bring up something it doesn't exist anymore, things like that |
| 21:30.17 | abrotman | @itunes |
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| 21:30.24 | abrotman | vjacob: there is some itunes support in linux |
| 21:30.37 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: so I always bring it back to sane state before I use ifup/ifdown |
| 21:30.43 | NP_complete | Kernel Panic, it says: "Please append the correct "root=" boot option |
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| 21:30.52 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I dont want to reboot this machine. and the end goal here is to have the damn thing working automatically. if I add a route manually here and it doesnt work in the even of a power outage I've wasted my time and gained a false sense that it works |
| 21:31.06 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: I understand, don't reboot anything yet |
| 21:31.14 | nvz | I am not rebooting anything ever |
| 21:31.21 | nvz | heh |
| 21:31.24 | JuanCraft | hi??? |
| 21:31.30 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: i have sometime wrong? |
| 21:31.32 | nkuttler | NP_complete: so do that |
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| 21:31.34 | JuanCraft | /dev/sda1 /mnt/win_c auto uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0777,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 21:31.37 | JuanCraft | something.. |
| 21:31.41 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: just bring it to normal with a little manual help... then take it down, and see if everything goes down correctly, then bring it back up and see what happens |
| 21:32.05 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: how do I add the gateway route? |
| 21:32.07 | Myon | tarzeau: hi, did you get my mail (NM)? |
| 21:32.14 | abrotman | route add gw IP |
| 21:32.16 | finley | nkuttler: thx. |
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| 21:32.17 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: ip route add default gw via <ip> |
| 21:32.20 | vjacob | abrotman nice line. |
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| 21:32.22 | abrotman | and add the word default if it is the default |
| 21:32.40 | abrotman | nvz: man route explains all! |
| 21:32.42 | nvz | I should be able to /etc/init.d/networking restart from here |
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| 21:32.55 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: first bring it to a sane state |
| 21:32.57 | finley | NP_complete: i'm afraid i misread your original question. |
| 21:33.06 | finley | there are two root settings |
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| 21:33.41 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: eh? sane state? I am logged in to 10.0.0.10:22 (ssh) from 10.0.0.14 right now on windows |
| 21:33.42 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: add the route, "route add default gw 10.0.0.1" if my first line fails... I tend to think everyone has iproute installed |
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| 21:33.57 | finley | the one i described to you tells grub what it should consider it's root (where it finds it's supporting files, etc.) |
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| 21:34.14 | scx | If you find your computer hacked and an user called ROOT additionally to root ? |
| 21:34.19 | finley | the other is on the same line with each of your kernel instances, and is a kernel append parameter |
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| 21:34.20 | nvz | says SIOCADDRT: No such device |
| 21:34.21 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: by sane I mean get it to what it should be according to your interfaces file, from what you said all you're missing from that is the def gw |
| 21:34.29 | JuanCraft | somebody know why i cant read a ntfs partition from user |
| 21:34.37 | JuanCraft | i have the fstab like that |
| 21:34.42 | tarzeau | Myon: hi. yes i got it. |
| 21:34.42 | JuanCraft | /dev/sda1 /mnt/win_c auto uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0777,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 21:34.43 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: wow... |
| 21:34.45 | NP_complete | how to append the correct "root=" option? |
| 21:34.45 | Aim_Here | JuanCraft, try umask=000 |
| 21:34.51 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: what line did you use? |
| 21:34.51 | Myon | tarzeau: ok |
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| 21:35.02 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: route add 10.0.0.1 |
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| 21:35.10 | tarzeau | Myon: i've got some busy days, i hopefully can answer it next week (this weekend's gonna be druggy) |
| 21:35.12 | finley | NP_complete: i believe you need to adjust the kernel append parameter to root=/dev/hda6, but have the grub "root (0,5)" back the way it was before |
| 21:35.21 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: "route add default gw 10.0.0.1" |
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| 21:35.35 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: thankkkkkkkksssssssssssssssssss |
| 21:35.40 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: a lot of thanks... |
| 21:35.51 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: it's works |
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| 21:35.56 | Aim_Here | yay! |
| 21:36.04 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: how its the umask settings? |
| 21:36.09 | finley | NP_complete: which should work like this: root ($disk_instance_starting_at_zero,$/boot_partition_minus_1) |
| 21:36.13 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: that puts me back to the situation of having default chadmin 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 br0 in route as well now |
| 21:36.14 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: not its like chmod settings? |
| 21:36.22 | Aim_Here | It's the bitwise negation of the chmod setting you want |
| 21:36.31 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: ok good, that should give you internet right? |
| 21:36.37 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: oooooohhhhhhhh .. thanks |
| 21:36.40 | Aim_Here | So subtract the chmod setting you want from 777 |
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| 21:36.43 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: i'm happing now.. |
| 21:36.45 | Aim_Here | that's 777 octal |
| 21:36.47 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: i'm happy now |
| 21:36.55 | Aim_Here | glad to hear it |
| 21:36.57 | finley | NP_complete: so, if you need to get the box booted in order to _make_ that change, hit escape soon as you see grub start at boot time, |
| 21:37.01 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: nope I still get dns resolution when pinging google.com but no replies |
| 21:37.01 | JuanCraft | Aim_Here: thanks a lot.. |
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| 21:37.10 | finley | and arrow down to the entry you want to boot with, |
| 21:37.10 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: traceroute? |
| 21:37.13 | finley | hit "e" for edit |
| 21:37.19 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: are you sure your gateway is 10.0.0.1 ? |
| 21:37.37 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: yes |
| 21:37.38 | finley | and change the root= append parameter to point to your filesystem root (/dev/hda6) |
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| 21:37.46 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: ok, traceroute then and see where it gets you |
| 21:38.11 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: its giving me all * * * |
| 21:38.21 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: ping 10.0.0.1 ? |
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| 21:38.33 | NP_complete | finely, i'm gonna try it |
| 21:38.36 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: yes |
| 21:38.45 | Myon | tarzeau: np, I just wondered because the first mail is not that hard to answer |
| 21:39.04 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: says chadmin in the route output, not 10.0.0.1 |
| 21:39.19 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: route -n |
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| 21:39.43 | nvz | 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 br0 |
| 21:39.54 | wossname | hello sirs; am needing udev. new kernel ?? |
| 21:39.59 | nvz | 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 br0 |
| 21:40.14 | Gnea | wossname: yes |
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| 21:40.48 | nvz | shouldnt the IP of br0 be in there somewhere? |
| 21:41.04 | wossname | how do i compiled new kernel ?? |
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| 21:41.12 | Gnea | in a routing table? |
| 21:41.16 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: log in locally as you'll loose net, then /etc/init.d/networking stop, it should finish cleanly with no errors of any kind, if yes, then the same but with "start" |
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| 21:41.31 | Anthro | Christ! I was looking at an electronic paper display prototype kit (as seen on Slashdot!) and thinking I could do something interesting with it, but it's $3000! |
| 21:41.35 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: no, those are routes, IPs you'll see with ifconfig |
| 21:41.42 | barney | I have a slow connection (28.8kbs) -- is there a way for me to download packages elswhere to install from cd? |
| 21:41.52 | Gnea | wossname: see the kernel howto at www.tldp.org |
| 21:42.03 | wossname | thank you kind sirs;; |
| 21:42.08 | Mat972 | Hi guys! I've a trouble with postfix ... could anyone help me ? |
| 21:42.19 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I can't just do restart and not have to goto the machine? restart runs start/stop and I could even do it from screen and reattach |
| 21:42.21 | Gnea | !tell Mat972 about ask |
| 21:42.26 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: or use && |
| 21:42.27 | Gnea | oops |
| 21:42.34 | Gnea | Mat972: just explain the problem |
| 21:42.45 | Gnea | Mat972: someone will help if they can |
| 21:42.45 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: stop start are better in this case, you want to see if there's any output |
| 21:42.57 | NP_complete | I have the original sarge kernel, and my own compiled version, but in menu.lst i have the same parameters. |
| 21:43.01 | JuanCraft | does the i810 soundcard module have supported to 6 channel audio? |
| 21:43.09 | NP_complete | my own kernel isn't initrd |
| 21:43.21 | LSorensen | JuanCraft: I believe snd-intel8x0 does yes |
| 21:43.24 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: if I run /etc/init.d/networking stop && /etc/init.d/networking start in screen should be the same thing |
| 21:43.27 | LSorensen | JuanCraft: at least on some boards |
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| 21:43.38 | NP_complete | original kernel boots fine, but not mine. |
| 21:44.05 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: output will probably end up in messages or syslog and you won't see it, if you want to do it your way, check those files for output |
| 21:44.06 | NP_complete | finley: I have the original sarge kernel booting fine |
| 21:44.49 | NP_complete | finley: But my own build doesn't boot, (isn't initrd) and grup options in menu.lst are the same |
| 21:44.52 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: when you run stop, see if you still have any routes or if any interface is left up, they shouldn't |
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| 21:45.03 | Mxyzpltk | (if you go to the machine) |
| 21:45.08 | Mat972 | Cool. I try to forward all mails received to whatever@mydomain.com to an_address@another_domain.com . For this, i try to use canonical maps, but it does not work. I keep on getting messages like "User unknown in local recipient table;" |
| 21:45.09 | JuanCraft | LSorensen: so what u reccomend.. because actually i have the i810_audio and only 2 channel audio.. |
| 21:45.14 | psytek | whats a good erp for linux? |
| 21:45.28 | JuanCraft | LSorensen: do i have to install alsa? |
| 21:45.37 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: so far its not woring.. bitching about mounted shares :P |
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| 21:45.53 | EmleyMoor | Is there a good way to see the region codes of my DVD drives? |
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| 21:46.05 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: unmount them? |
| 21:46.06 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: working now says Deconfiguring network interfaces...Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. |
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| 21:46.12 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: duh :) |
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| 21:46.33 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I think thats all I get, it disconnected my ssh now I think |
| 21:46.55 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: is the internet by any chance connected to eth1? |
| 21:47.38 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: by that I mean 10.0.0.1 |
| 21:47.43 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: yes eth1 is the uplink to the gateway eth0 and eth2 are crossovers to the other boxes behind the bridge |
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| 21:48.02 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: brb, going down to look at it, wont let me back in via ssh |
| 21:48.13 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: that's your problem, when the bridge started eth1 was not added for some reason, probably it had an IP or it was UP or similar |
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| 21:48.23 | JuanCraft | LSorensen: so what u reccomend.. because actually i have the i810_audio and only 2 channel audio works.. |
| 21:48.25 | JuanCraft | LSorensen: do i have to install alsa? |
| 21:48.57 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: take everything out, delete the bridge, remove any IPs from the interfaces, bring them down with ifconfig and when you're sure everything is down, then networking start |
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| 21:49.52 | recklessgeeza | hi ppl |
| 21:50.01 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: probably messages or syslog have some info on why eth1 was not added to the bridge |
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| 21:50.33 | _skal_ | howdy |
| 21:50.33 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: ok, it said lo was already up, then waiting for br0, and its back up still same state and problem |
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| 21:51.06 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: "brctl show" does that shows all child interfaces in the bridge? |
| 21:51.22 | Electron | anyone around? |
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| 21:52.07 | resiak | Electron: No. |
| 21:52.09 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: I'll repeat in case you missed it: |
| 21:52.12 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: shows eth0, eth1, eth2 |
| 21:52.12 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: take everything out, delete the bridge, remove any IPs from the interfaces, bring them down with ifconfig and when you're sure everything is down, then networking start |
| 21:52.16 | nipra | Electron:yes |
| 21:52.34 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I've done that many times already before I even came in here asking for help |
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| 21:52.47 | Mat972 | gnea : I try to forward all mails received to whatever@mydomain.com to an_address@another_domain.com . For this, i try to use canonical maps, but it does not work. I keep on getting messages like "User unknown in local recipient table;" |
| 21:52.47 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: can you ping 10.0.0.1 now? |
| 21:52.57 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I could always ping 10.0.0.1 |
| 21:53.16 | Mxyzpltk | do you have a default route added? |
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| 21:53.33 | scx | * scx wants some popcorn |
| 21:53.34 | nvz | default chadmin 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 br0 |
| 21:53.36 | nvz | same as before |
| 21:54.24 | scx | * french fries would be fine also |
| 21:54.49 | _skal_ | sorry for the dumb question, but: how can i get the list of available packages? e.g.: i'm searching for the X11 headers. How can i guess the name of the package for `apt-get install`? |
| 21:55.02 | resiak | _skal_: man apt-cache |
| 21:55.03 | _skal_ | a RTFM + URL would do |
| 21:55.14 | resiak | _skal_: (but apt-cache search search terms blah blah) |
| 21:55.25 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: all ethN are UP? |
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| 21:55.35 | _skal_ | resiak: thanks! |
| 21:55.41 | resiak | _skal_: No problem. |
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| 21:56.34 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: all are "UP BROADCAST MULTICAST" |
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| 21:57.58 | Mat972 | nobody can help me withmy postfix problem :( ? |
| 21:57.58 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: "RUNNING" is also there right? |
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| 21:58.44 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: only on br0, eth1, and eth2 |
| 21:58.48 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: the "ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1" is what we're looking to pinpoint... |
| 21:58.53 | stocma | there is a software as filezilla with debian??? |
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| 21:59.38 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: eth1 is the uplink to the gateway 10.0.0.1, eth0 and eth2 are crossovers to other clients that are sharing connection with the bridge 10.0.0.10, only one of them is turned on at the time, has ip 10.0.0.5 |
| 21:59.59 | Mxyzpltk | I understand... ok |
| 22:00.03 | _skal_ | also, while i'm here: the 'hald' (Hardware Abstraction Layer) service is freezing my Samsung P28 laptop |
| 22:00.11 | _skal_ | in case it's of some interest |
| 22:00.15 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I am connected to the gateway on a windows pc 10.0.0.14 I can reach 10.0.0.10 and 10.0.0.5 and even login to them |
| 22:00.20 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: traceroute still goes nowhere? |
| 22:00.30 | Mxyzpltk | s/now/no |
| 22:01.29 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: yes, if I use an IP from the internet. traceroute to 10.0.0.1 or internal address works |
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| 22:02.15 | stocma | there is a software as filezilla with debian??? |
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| 22:03.12 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: br0 has the correct ip and netmask right? |
| 22:03.28 | nvz | I am going to look at my gateway maybe for some weird reason its not liking the static route and has some firewall rule blocking me |
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| 22:04.01 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: are all others using dhcp or something? |
| 22:04.01 | scx | * scx thinks: chopain has only one good opus, and generally, he sucks |
| 22:04.11 | nvz | dhcp pool is 10.0.0.11/9 and those addresses are outside dhcp pool and statically setup. maybe the firewall only has a rule for 10.0.0.11/9 |
| 22:04.23 | _skal_ | bye! |
| 22:04.42 | nvz | firewall is completly disabled |
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| 22:04.48 | nvz | oh well |
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| 22:04.52 | stew | stocma: /msg dpkg search |
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| 22:05.02 | amorph_ | does anyone can help me woth a sound-problem ? playback from console is perfect but with every gnome or kde-application the playback is interrupted every few seconds |
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| 22:05.47 | stocma | stew: ok but i've ever done it and i don't find software as useful than filezilla |
| 22:06.09 | stew | stocma: i have no idea what filezilla is |
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| 22:07.05 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: what if I set iface br0 inet dhcp, to test that? can you do that and do I remove all but the bridge_ports? |
| 22:07.08 | stocma | stew: it's a ftp client |
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| 22:08.14 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I can set static ips in the gateway by mac ID if I had to. maybe for some reason my router doesnt want to let IPs not in the dhcp lease table get outside the network |
| 22:08.20 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: is your gateway also a linux box? if not, what is it? can you snif on it? |
| 22:08.20 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: you don't have any iptables rules in your bridge box do you? |
| 22:08.29 | just1primate | Apache question: I can see my served site by IP address, but not by FQHN |
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| 22:08.44 | Mxyzpltk_ | nvz: sorry, my link died |
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| 22:11.25 | Mat972 | still nobody for a littly funny session with postfix ? |
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| 22:12.27 | Jacky^ | hi all |
| 22:12.30 | Jacky^ | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 22:12.34 | Jacky^ | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 22:12.39 | Jacky^ | can i do something ? :\ |
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| 22:12.47 | stew | Jacky^: /msg dpkg force loopbreak |
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| 22:14.30 | stew | Jacky^: err, no dpkg bot, /msg ravenbird force loopbreak |
| 22:15.03 | Jacky^ | stew: thanks |
| 22:17.20 | scx | * scx has popcorns now, and now she's a little less bored |
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| 22:18.53 | linoleum | hello. I dont know why , but my debian sudently change the default language (it was french). now, it's all in english. |
| 22:18.54 | Hauswand | is there a file like /etc/conf.d/local.start from gentoo for debian??? where can i put commands like alsactl restore, if i don't want the alsa script? |
| 22:18.55 | nvz | well I figured out the problem was my router and not my configuration |
| 22:18.59 | linoleum | is it a bug?? |
| 22:19.15 | nvz | apperently anyhow.. cause with br0 dhcp it works |
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| 22:20.09 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: so your gateway only nats ppl who ask him for dhcp? |
| 22:20.21 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: seems that way |
| 22:20.30 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: piece of shit :P |
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| 22:20.56 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: you could check by stoping bridge and assign eth1 the ip and route manually, when nobody is using it and you feel like it |
| 22:21.01 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I am going to work on setting up everyone with a statically assigned dhcp address based on mac ids |
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| 22:22.43 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: what kind of gateway is it? |
| 22:22.44 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: the bridge only exists because we have a Motorolla SBG900 Modem/Router/Wireless dodad and all clients other than me are wireless windows boxes. the bridge allows me to share the single internet port on the modem with my other debian boxes and to form one big networked cluster with them. |
| 22:22.58 | EmleyMoor | When I'm using growisofs to write to DVD[+-]RW, apart from the fact that my drive does +RW faster than -RW, is there any practical difference? |
| 22:23.15 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I am going to use the bridge not only as a hub I dont have, but also as another layer of protection against the windows pcs and the shitty SBG |
| 22:23.21 | D3vIN | how would i switch from xdm to kdm? |
| 22:23.35 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: good enough, enjoy ebtables |
| 22:23.46 | Hauswand | apt-get install kdm !? |
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| 22:24.01 | _gass_ | hello there |
| 22:24.12 | Mxyzpltk | nvz: I was about to send you read /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/bridge and call an exorcist :) |
| 22:24.24 | _gass_ | i can't use any usb devices in debian testing/unstable |
| 22:24.41 | _gass_ | they are there in lsusb, but i can't use them |
| 22:24.41 | nvz | Mxyzpltk: I read that earlier. it directed me to /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/README.Debian.gz |
| 22:24.51 | _gass_ | any lights on this? |
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| 22:25.41 | _gass_ | anyone? |
| 22:25.42 | Hauswand | isn't there a file where i can put commands, which should executed on startup ? |
| 22:26.02 | nvz | Hauswand: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh or make your own boot script and link it |
| 22:26.56 | _gass_ | every programs exit with error that they cannot read |
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| 22:27.17 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... there's 3.4Gb in /var/spool/sa-exim/SAtempreject - what happens if I get rid of stuff from there? |
| 22:27.17 | _gass_ | or, like printers, i hit the print command and nothing happens |
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| 22:27.27 | Hauswand | i dont't want a init script ... i can't creat one (i'm a noob) ... |
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| 22:28.24 | dondelelcaro | Hauswand: there's an example in /etc/init.d/skeleton |
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| 22:29.47 | Hauswand | mhm i put it into bootmisch after a chmod command :) |
| 22:30.57 | nvz | dondelelcaro: welcome back. how nice of you join us |
| 22:30.57 | nvz | dondelelcaro: where are the others? |
| 22:30.57 | dondelelcaro | nvz: that machine doesn't turn on automatically... it's too old |
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| 22:30.57 | nvz | dondelelcaro: get a monkey |
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| 22:32.22 | thingfish | gnomebaker seems nice. |
| 22:32.58 | nvz | I've been having no problems baking with my pringles can bong |
| 22:33.23 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 22:33.35 | nvz | its so nice I wish it wasnt made largly of cardboard and going to fall apart |
| 22:33.45 | thingfish | doesn't that give a salty, potatoey flavor to the hit? |
| 22:33.57 | D3vIN | how would i unapt-get kdm? |
| 22:34.08 | thingfish | !remove kde |
| 22:34.17 | thingfish | oops that's right, dpkg is out. |
| 22:34.17 | D3vIN | =0 |
| 22:34.21 | thingfish | ~remove kde |
| 22:34.22 | apt | i heard remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 22:34.54 | _gass_ | i can't find where to give permissions for users to use usb devices, printers and cameras. already have the camera group |
| 22:35.01 | ralf | wtf |
| 22:35.03 | ralf | why don't using debfoster?? |
| 22:35.11 | ralf | also plugdev and usb? |
| 22:35.12 | D3vIN | i want kde i just wanna remove kdm and try something else |
| 22:35.26 | ralf | D3vIN: use kdm |
| 22:35.35 | _gass_ | ralf: plugdev? |
| 22:35.39 | ralf | otherwise you couldn't reboot |
| 22:36.17 | D3vIN | ralf lol i want to use it, but i dont know how to make it my default display manager, fir some reason xdm is and i dont like it =0( |
| 22:36.32 | ralf | dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
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| 22:37.23 | D3vIN | ralf thank you very much |
| 22:37.34 | ralf | np |
| 22:38.32 | libervisco | A quickie.. Is /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf in effect the same as would be /etc/apt/apt.conf ? |
| 22:39.00 | libervisco | as I didn't have /etc/apt/apt.conf and when I create it and put something in it it only gives a syntax error |
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| 22:40.17 | stew | libervisco: man apt.conf ; man apt_preferences |
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| 22:41.06 | stew | libervisco: but yes, apt.conf.d/* are the same format as apt.conf |
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| 22:41.45 | libervisco | stew, ok.. thanks |
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| 22:42.32 | libervisco | I've added testing repo to sources and set the conf file to have stable as default still.. so I can install some packs of newer versions from testing |
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| 22:42.53 | michal_ | hi. can anyone recommend a wiki well suited to technical documentation? |
| 22:42.57 | ago73 | Hi all, my shell(s) get stucked when I do tab autocompletion. What could it be? I do not see anything strange with top, ps, dmesg... |
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| 22:43.42 | EmleyMoor | How does one get round an argument list being too long for rm? |
| 22:43.45 | RogueDopple | mixing packages always a smart idea huh libervisco |
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| 22:43.58 | EdLin | EmleyMoor: xargs |
| 22:44.04 | Someone343 | lol, slashdot linking to goatse images right on the frontpage...how nice |
| 22:44.25 | libervisco | RogueDopple, well.. what can I do.. I can't stay with sarge for the next two years :P |
| 22:44.43 | EmleyMoor | EdLin: Not very useful in this situation, I think |
| 22:44.51 | nvz | libervisco: you can, you just won't |
| 22:44.56 | daEAGLEmon | hi i just installed from the netinstall cd, i have a usb mouse but x won't start so i installed gpm to see if the mouse worked, then realized i don't have /dev/input/mice? any ideas? |
| 22:44.57 | EdLin | EmleyMoor: why not, that's precisely what it's for. |
| 22:45.03 | nvz | you have shiny new software syndrome |
| 22:45.05 | libervisco | nvz, well.. right |
| 22:45.36 | libervisco | alot of people do :) |
| 22:45.40 | RogueDopple | libervisco: its not #debians fault if you mess up your system or can't figure out how to do something that will hoze your system |
| 22:45.45 | daEAGLEmon | lsmod lists usbcore and uhci-hcd |
| 22:46.01 | libervisco | RogueDopple, sure isn't.. it never would be |
| 22:46.02 | nvz | you crave higher and higher version numbers regaurdless of the costs to security, functionality or fitness to any purpose |
| 22:46.02 | EdLin | libervisco: a lot of people use windows too, that doesn't mean you have to do what they do too. |
| 22:46.07 | thingfish | in my experience, shiny new software just means bugs galore. |
| 22:46.10 | EmleyMoor | EdLin: How does one rm * when * is too much with it? |
| 22:46.26 | EdLin | EmleyMoor: use find and xargs rm in a pipe. |
| 22:46.28 | libervisco | Hm.. but I see alot of people saying they run etch? |
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| 22:46.37 | RogueDopple | libervisco: your libervis site still sucks by the way mwa ha ha |
| 22:46.40 | KirbyMeister | wow these are some updates on the testing branch |
| 22:46.51 | libervisco | RogueDopple, noted :P |
| 22:46.52 | nvz | "alot" is not a word. A lot of people are also really fucking stupid. |
| 22:46.55 | thingfish | libervisco: I think a lot of people run selected items from etch. |
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| 22:46.59 | RogueDopple | libervisco: maybe you should stick to ubuntu |
| 22:47.01 | stew | libervisco: check if a backport exists for whatever you are wanting from etch. /msg dpkg backports ; or backport it yourself, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 22:47.20 | KirbyMeister | ooh xserver-xorg |
| 22:47.22 | NP_complete | hi all |
| 22:47.25 | KirbyMeister | I'm gonna have to reconfigure THAT |
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| 22:47.31 | comfrey | my bash blue is too dark to read against the black background... |
| 22:47.31 | thingfish | but running etch or sid is really only for bug chasers. |
| 22:47.36 | stew | mixing sarge and etch is a bad idea these days |
| 22:47.43 | comfrey | any tips on changing it? |
| 22:47.51 | NP_complete | My xmms, and amule, show a very little font type, waaaa!!! wich packet to install? |
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| 22:48.22 | EdLin | !smite NP_complete |
| 22:48.39 | KirbyMeister | woot inkscape .42 |
| 22:48.47 | EdLin | !test |
| 22:49.00 | EdLin | phoey |
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| 22:49.07 | libervisco | stew, thanks.. I'll look elsewhere though, no dpkg here yet and ravenbird "hasn't a clue" |
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| 22:49.42 | EdLin | libervisco: one place to look for backports is apt-get.org |
| 22:49.45 | stew | libervisco: backports.org |
| 22:49.49 | scx | *scx loves travis |
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| 22:50.03 | stew | libervisco: and ravenbird knows about simple sid backport |
| 22:50.50 | dizzy321 | . |
| 22:51.12 | NP_complete | EdLin: ¿? |
| 22:51.24 | stew | comfrey: i'm not sure exactly, but man dircolors might get you started |
| 22:51.54 | EdLin | NP_complete: it's a website, apt-get.org, that offers a searchable list of a huge number of backport repositories. |
| 22:52.06 | RogueDopple | NP_complete: what packet would you like and i mean "packet" |
| 22:52.27 | michal_ | anybody understand dns here? i hhave an ip which reverse resolves to the incorrect hostname (on my isp's dns servers only) how would i ask for that to be removed? is it the PTR record for that ip? |
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| 22:53.55 | stew | michal_: are you sure its only on your ISP servers, or is it on any servers that are not your own? |
| 22:54.24 | daEAGLEmon | 31r0a-i386 netinstall cd is what i used |
| 22:54.25 | michal_ | stew: i'm not 100% sure of anything as i'm not sure what i should be checking for.. |
| 22:54.55 | michal_ | stew: what does 210.11.32.97 resolve to for you? |
| 22:55.14 | stew | michal_: in general, to change the reverse dns, you need to contact the netblock owner which is usually your isp, "whois ipaddress" should tell you who that is |
| 22:55.21 | stew | 97.32.11.210.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail.mulford.com.au. |
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| 22:55.39 | abrotman | stew: to add to your CD contents http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 22:55.41 | toxygen | hi there |
| 22:55.52 | michal_ | stew: well it's me.. and my isp.. but they seem to think i want to change the A record for mail.mulford.com.au |
| 22:56.23 | michal_ | stew: ok.. so it's wrong everywhere. |
| 22:56.37 | michal_ | stew: have a look at what mail.mulford.com.au resolves to.. that's the correct ip |
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| 22:57.17 | daEAGLEmon | should there be a usb script in /etc/udev/scripts |
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| 22:57.33 | stew | mail.mulford.com.au has address 210.0.75.162 |
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| 22:57.52 | NP_complete | The probles is in aMule font, ans xmms font, they have a very little font, i can't even read |
| 22:58.01 | michal_ | stew: so you see things are a little screwed up |
| 22:58.10 | stew | yes |
| 22:58.28 | NP_complete | I guess there is a package with bigger fonst size, ain't? |
| 22:58.37 | michal_ | stew: what is the technical term for stopping 210.11.32.97 from resolving to mail.mulford.com.au ? |
| 22:58.38 | stew | michal_: so it looks like you need to contact routing@connect.com.au |
| 22:58.41 | NP_complete | what's the name of that package? |
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| 22:59.31 | KirbyMeister | heh the XF86 -> XORG upgrade preserved my custom X config |
| 22:59.38 | michal_ | stew: hostmaster actually. they THINK I want to do the following.. "R384646 The summary is: New A record for www.mulford.com.au" |
| 23:00.21 | comfrey | stew: yeah, sifting through info thanks |
| 23:00.32 | michal_ | stew: that doesn't sound right to me though. |
| 23:00.53 | kasper | how do i add /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_05/bin/javac as a path (so that i don't have to type the whole dir to run the command?)?? |
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| 23:01.21 | michal_ | stew: i guess what I;m trying to find out is what sort of a record i am trying to get rid of/change |
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| 23:02.02 | stew | michal_: there are several things wrong |
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| 23:02.21 | stew | michal_: sounds like you want them to change the PTR record for 210.11.32.97 |
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| 23:02.35 | key2 | hi |
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| 23:02.47 | key2 | is it possible to install a debian from tftp/bootp ? |
| 23:02.50 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:02.53 | abrotman | ~ig |
| 23:02.57 | apt | methinks install guide is http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ or http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst or if you're totally clueless read http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016&page=1 too |
| 23:03.02 | stew | michal_: www.mulford.com.au -> 203.63.53.104 -> cca_web_hosting_service.connect.com.au., but cca_web_hosting_service.connect.com.au. doesn't resolv |
| 23:03.05 | abrotman | that's bad |
| 23:03.11 | stew | michal_: thats another problem |
| 23:03.16 | shingoki | where is dpkg? |
| 23:03.18 | abrotman | key2: the install guide for sarge at debian.org has a section about it |
| 23:03.22 | abrotman | shingoki: napping |
| 23:03.31 | shingoki | ah |
| 23:03.31 | michal_ | stew: yeah but that's THEIR problem.. we don't host them anymore :P |
| 23:03.36 | abrotman | shingoki: notice don and debhelper aren't here either |
| 23:03.39 | shingoki | can anyone give me nvidia one liner? |
| 23:03.40 | key2 | abrotman: do you know what I need if I wanna boot it from a windows ? |
| 23:03.51 | abrotman | key2: you need a tftp server on windows |
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| 23:04.03 | stew | michal_: the most important this is that when you look up a reverse dns (look up the name for a number) that name better point back to the same number |
| 23:04.32 | abrotman | key2: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en .. reading is good :) |
| 23:04.34 | stew | so 203.63.53.104 should probably be pointing somewhere else |
| 23:04.49 | abrotman | key2: and i wish you the best of luck .. i had never gotten it working with alphas |
| 23:06.00 | michal_ | stew: i just want to free up our ip.. i had problems using it because of the reverse lookup |
| 23:06.08 | litage | if i want to burn /foo/bar/1 and 2/ using growisofs, if i use "-root /foo/bar", the contents of 1/ and 2/ will be put in /foo/bar/ rather than /foo/bar/1/ and /foo/bar/2/. how can i keep the full paths? |
| 23:06.10 | stew | michal_: i dont know which is yours |
| 23:06.18 | key2 | abrotman: how would I deal with the arp/rarp packet then ? |
| 23:06.27 | michal_ | stew: 210.11.32.97 |
| 23:06.36 | abrotman | key2: see .you know more about it than i do :) |
| 23:06.48 | abrotman | key2: i know that it's "possible" .. but as i've said .. i've never gotten it to work |
| 23:06.52 | key2 | abrotman: I wanna install a debian on a SUN |
| 23:06.53 | stew | michal_: is that mail.mulford..? |
| 23:07.04 | key2 | abrotman: so I need it to deal with arp/rarp packets |
| 23:07.27 | daEAGLEmon | hi i just installed from the 31r0a-i386 netinstall cd, i have a usb mouse but x won't start so i installed gpm to see if the mouse worked, then realized i don't have /dev/input/mice but lsmod lists usb stuff i need for it (usbcore, uhci-hcd) any ideas? |
| 23:07.27 | LinuxGold | where can I download netinst for Debian Etch? |
| 23:07.32 | LinuxGold | the iso image for CD |
| 23:07.36 | LinuxGold | so I can install over Internet. |
| 23:07.56 | michal_ | stew: it USEd to be mail.mulford.com.au but it hasn'tt been for a few months |
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| 23:08.11 | abrotman | LinuxFire: debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 23:08.16 | abrotman | Rez: bring back dpkg! :) |
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| 23:08.31 | Rez | abrotman: can't. |
| 23:08.31 | abrotman | daEAGLEmon: mousedev ? |
| 23:08.32 | z1ng3r | LinuxGold http://cdimage.debian.org/pub isn't good enough for you? |
| 23:08.37 | michal_ | man.. there are SO many wiki's but none of them seem optimized for technical documentation :/ |
| 23:08.37 | abrotman | Rez: do yuo know what happened ? |
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| 23:08.49 | abrotman | hey .. look .. paster! |
| 23:09.01 | daEAGLEmon | abrotman, hmmm... didn't think of that one |
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| 23:09.04 | stew | michal_: then you need to tell them to set a new PTR record for 210.11.32.97 to point to some other name that actually does resolve to 210.11.32.97 |
| 23:09.21 | daEAGLEmon | am in doze atm i'll have to reboot and look, heh |
| 23:09.27 | scx | Hey guys: where I find uemacs for Debian ? |
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| 23:09.45 | scx | it's not in my sources |
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| 23:09.48 | michal_ | stew: nothing at the moment.. os just delete the ptr record for 210.11.32.97 I guess |
| 23:09.50 | abrotman | dpkg: wb |
| 23:09.53 | dpkg | thanks, abrotman. It's good to be back. |
| 23:10.10 | key2 | when I wanna joing a multicas channel (239.1.x.x) do I need to set the route ? |
| 23:10.27 | stew | michal_: that might get rid of some errors but not others. for instance, you wouldn't be able to send mail to many servers from that box |
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| 23:10.36 | abrotman | key2: you really should read those docs .. |
| 23:10.45 | electron | how do I extract .xpm.gz? |
| 23:10.54 | daEAGLEmon | bbl, hopefully in debian :) hmmm... does irrsi or bitchx install by default? |
| 23:11.02 | abrotman | electron: man gzip or man gunzip |
| 23:11.12 | abrotman | daEAGLEmon: nope ... |
| 23:11.22 | key2 | abrotman: nothing to see |
| 23:11.25 | michal_ | stew: which box? if you mean mail.mulford.com.au then i don't care :P it's their responsibility not mine. |
| 23:11.27 | abrotman | daEAGLEmon: but if your internet works ... |
| 23:11.28 | daEAGLEmon | ok so apt-get install bitchx will cover it? |
| 23:11.30 | abrotman | key2: those docs don't help ? |
| 23:11.35 | key2 | abrotman: i'm talkin about mpeg multicasting with vlc for example |
| 23:11.35 | abrotman | daEAGLEmon: apt-get install irssi-text |
| 23:11.36 | stew | michal_: i mean 210.11.32.97 |
| 23:11.43 | abrotman | key2: oh .. no idea then :) |
| 23:11.50 | daEAGLEmon | abrotman, ok ty |
| 23:12.18 | michal_ | stew: it's normal for a host with just an ip address and no name to not reverse resolve to a name from an ip though :P how coould it be a problem? |
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| 23:12.37 | stew | michal_: if that machine were to contact my smtp server, my server would hang up on it |
| 23:12.57 | abrotman | go sox ... |
| 23:13.21 | abrotman | stew: and it's on ESPN :) |
| 23:13.25 | stew | abrotman: i didn't mind that the sox lost last night, becuase it was made up for by the yankees loosing by a much larger margin |
| 23:13.40 | abrotman | stew: they got creamed .. but the sox should have won damn it .. |
| 23:13.48 | abrotman | stew: it's going to be an interesting weekend |
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| 23:14.12 | stew | abrotman: yeah, now no matter what it won't be decided until they play eachother |
| 23:14.18 | abrotman | stew: yeah .. pretty much |
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| 23:14.27 | abrotman | stew: and the AL Central is the same |
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| 23:14.53 | stew | if its on espn, i'm going to assume my wife has already setup myth to record it |
| 23:14.55 | cougar` | Hey all |
| 23:14.59 | abrotman | stew: ah .. ok |
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| 23:15.13 | cougar` | How do I upgrade all packages currently installed on my debian system |
| 23:15.13 | tyranix | Does secure-testing-master.d.n update immediately with security updates? I'm curious because all of the mirrors for stable/testing/unstable update at a certain time during the day, correct? |
| 23:15.22 | shingoki | Has anyone thought about putting the info from dpkg into a page? or is it on a page somewhere? |
| 23:15.24 | abrotman | stew: so i shouldn't ruin the game for you ? |
| 23:15.28 | Estes2 | Hey guys, i got a strange thing here... i got two DNS servers, a primary and a secondary. Now the fact is, i can telnet 53 to the master from the secondary but it seems i got an issue when loading the datas.. i get this when i do a bind reload : rndc: connect failed: connection refused Any idea ? there's more than an hour i try to figure out |
| 23:15.28 | r3tex | i've installed xserver-xfree how come i don't have an xinit or startx command =P |
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| 23:15.46 | abrotman | !tell cougar` about refcard |
| 23:16.06 | Estes2 | i can even dig -t AXFR ..... |
| 23:16.08 | cougar` | SWEET! |
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| 23:16.38 | thingfish | msg dpkg refcard |
| 23:16.42 | abrotman | thingfish: / |
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| 23:16.50 | michal_ | stew: whoever said that there's ever going to be a mailserver on that ip though? :P |
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| 23:16.52 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:17.39 | thingfish | that's what gin & tonics'll do to ya. |
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| 23:21.30 | stew | abrotman: hmm, not recording becuase of conflicts |
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| 23:21.59 | abrotman | stew: guess what .. they're losing :) |
| 23:22.09 | abrotman | stew: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=250928102 |
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| 23:22.19 | MustangMatt | Any recommendations on a true hardware sata raid controller that's supported and stable under sarge? Also needs to be low profile for a 1u case. |
| 23:22.36 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 23:22.36 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html , or http://linux.yyz.us/sata/ |
| 23:22.42 | dondelelcaro | MustangMatt: 3ware |
| 23:22.51 | abrotman | MustangMatt: first URL will give you true hardware .. low profile .. dunno |
| 23:22.53 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: what happened ? |
| 23:22.54 | hfly | how can I install a manually downloaded .deb package using apt ? |
| 23:22.55 | dondelelcaro | MustangMatt: and you generally just stick those things on reiser cards |
| 23:22.55 | Estes2 | abrotman, can you please have a little look at my secondary dns problem ? |
| 23:23.01 | MustangMatt | dondelecaro: I'll check i tout. |
| 23:23.02 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: what happened with what? |
| 23:23.04 | Estes2 | if you're not too busy... |
| 23:23.05 | amphi | hfly: use dpkg |
| 23:23.11 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: your .. connectivity :) |
| 23:23.15 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: power outage |
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| 23:23.26 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ouch .. like .. brownout .. or just totally gone ? |
| 23:23.29 | hfly | amphi: thanks let me try that |
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| 23:23.33 | dondelelcaro | figures that after not having had a serious outage in *years*, we have 2 in the space of a week |
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| 23:23.45 | abrotman | Estes2: maybe |
| 23:23.50 | daEAGLEmon | heh that was odd, when i booted into debian mouse works fine |
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| 23:24.05 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: nah, it was flipped off; I'm pretty sure it was scheduled, but they weren't supposed to turn off this building |
| 23:24.11 | Estes2 | abrotman, i got a strange thing here... i got two DNS servers, a primary and a secondary. Now the fact is, i can telnet 53 to the master from the secondary but it seems i got an issue when loading the datas.. i get this when i do a bind reload : rndc: connect failed: connection refused Any idea ? there's more than an hour i try to figure out |
| 23:24.12 | abrotman | MustangMatt: i do know adaptec makes hardware sata cards that work in sarge .. dunno about low profile |
| 23:24.19 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: whoops :) |
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| 23:24.24 | daEAGLEmon | abrotman, ty again |
| 23:24.27 | Estes2 | i can do a dig -t AXFR on it btw |
| 23:24.31 | abrotman | daEAGLEmon: all working ? |
| 23:24.34 | daEAGLEmon | yep |
| 23:24.36 | Estes2 | just bind won't update from the master |
| 23:24.46 | abrotman | Estes2: udp ? |
| 23:24.55 | abrotman | Estes2: is there a firewall at all ? |
| 23:25.03 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Thanks I'll check those out too. That link has a lot of good info. Cost is not an issue at this point. |
| 23:25.05 | abrotman | Estes2: and did you check the logs on *both* machines |
| 23:25.23 | hfly | amphi: got it thanks |
| 23:25.24 | abrotman | MustangMatt: ah .. must be nice :) |
| 23:25.32 | MustangMatt | Using software mdadm raid my CPU is pegging when I try to delete 20 gb of data. I'm hoping a true hardware raid controller will fix that. |
| 23:25.41 | Estes2 | abrotman, firewall but tcp and udp are opened |
| 23:25.43 | abrotman | MustangMatt: i think i got a .. 2410SA from adaptec fro like .. 300$ |
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| 23:25.57 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Is that one low profile? |
| 23:26.09 | MustangMatt | I don't even mind manually modifying the brackets if the card itself will fit. |
| 23:26.13 | abrotman | MustangMatt: no .. wasn't looking for one either .. it went in a monster supermicro case :) |
| 23:26.24 | abrotman | MustangMatt: well .. let me look at the picture |
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| 23:26.30 | MustangMatt | Actually wait a sec... I may not even need low profile. These things are on a riser and they might be full height. I'll go peek. |
| 23:26.46 | jroes | what's a really conservative setting for X with respect to monitors? I've tried knoppix on two diff machines with the same monitor, and the monitor just shuts off when X starts |
| 23:26.53 | sn00p | whats the latest version of firefox for debian? |
| 23:26.58 | Estes2 | abrotman, nothing i can see in the logs |
| 23:27.04 | abrotman | Estes2: the logs should say .. either that someone is trying to copy that isn't authorized .. or can't contatct .. or something |
| 23:27.25 | MustangMatt | Ah sweet, I do have a full height slot. Room in front of the card is probably the biggest issue. Does your adaptec have it's connectors on the end of the card by chance? |
| 23:27.29 | abrotman | Estes2: iirc .. there are different log files |
| 23:27.31 | stew | abrotman: ok they are both recording now :) |
| 23:27.33 | abrotman | err log levels |
| 23:27.33 | sn00p | whats the latest version of firefox for debian? |
| 23:27.35 | abrotman | stew: yay |
| 23:28.06 | thingfish | sn00p: do /mst dpkg sarge firefox |
| 23:28.12 | thingfish | *msg |
| 23:28.12 | abrotman | MustangMatt: http://adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=English+US&prodkey=AAR-2410SA&cat=%2fTechnology%2fSerial+ATA+Products%2fRAID+Controllers .. was what i had .. weird thing was .. at the time .. the stupid monitoring stuff wouldn't work on Opteron(AMD64) for debian .. though .. i didn't play with it that much |
| 23:28.12 | stew | myth rules |
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| 23:28.34 | Estes2 | abrotman, nothing in syslog, nothing in daemon.log |
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| 23:29.25 | thingfish | sn00p: you can also always look at packages.debian.org |
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| 23:29.25 | thingfish | my my |
| 23:29.25 | abrotman | Estes2: uhm .. no bind.log ? |
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| 23:29.32 | Estes2 | hum |
| 23:29.32 | Estes2 | no |
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| 23:29.33 | Estes2 | abrotman, nothing like this |
| 23:29.33 | thingfish | oh the humanity! |
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| 23:29.42 | abrotman | Estes2: cat /var/log/syslog | grep named |
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| 23:29.53 | d0ne | is this where to ask question if having problems installing debian? |
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| 23:30.47 | d0ne | hi |
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| 23:31.22 | thingfish | d0ne: it's as good a place as you're going to find. |
| 23:31.22 | abrotman | d0ne: you can try here |
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| 23:31.23 | d0ne | thanks :) |
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| 23:31.25 | abrotman | karsten: you've been quiet lately! |
| 23:31.25 | MustangMatt | Ah darn it. Someone messaged me but my buffer ran out. Can someone with a big buffer paste the last line to me? |
| 23:31.27 | MustangMatt | As I figure out how to increase my buffer :) |
| 23:31.28 | d0ne | I have an acer travelmate 4402 and I'm trying to install debian sarge.. |
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| 23:31.29 | shingoki | how can anyone survive without dpkg? |
| 23:31.29 | Estes2 | abrotman, i got stuff but it's unrelated |
| 23:31.29 | abrotman | MustangMatt: http://adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=English+US&prodkey=AAR-2410SA&cat=%2fTechnology%2fSerial+ATA+Products%2fRAID+Controllers .. was what i had .. weird thing was .. at the time .. the stupid monitoring stuff wouldn't work on Opteron(AMD64) for debian .. though .. i didn't play with it that much |
| 23:31.30 | abrotman | MustangMatt: probably me |
| 23:31.31 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Thank you sir! |
| 23:31.33 | r3tex | what apt package contains xinit? |
| 23:31.38 | d0ne | I'm having problems getting x to start |
| 23:31.41 | abrotman | Estes2: you've told your master that you have a secondary .. and told the secondary to pull form the master? |
| 23:31.42 | d0ne | can anyone help? |
| 23:31.45 | r3tex | i have installed xfree86 i think |
| 23:31.48 | abrotman | d0ne: need more details .. |
| 23:31.55 | abrotman | !find bin/xinit |
| 23:31.57 | Estes2 | abrotman, told the secondary to take from the master |
| 23:32.03 | sn00p | i uninstalled xdm but it keeps installing itself wh y? |
| 23:32.07 | abrotman | Estes2: and told the master to let the secondary pull ? |
| 23:32.09 | d0ne | abrotman: what kind of details do you need? |
| 23:32.24 | Estes2 | abrotman, i didn't know i was supposed to tell the master i got a secondary |
| 23:32.25 | r3tex | abrotman: do you know what package? |
| 23:32.28 | abrotman | d0ne: check /var/log/XFree86.0.log for EE lines and check the end of the file |
| 23:32.29 | Estes2 | humm |
| 23:32.32 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/xinit' (2): (/usr/X11R6/bin/xinit) in x11/xbase-clients ;; (/usr/lib/maxdb/devtools/bin/{xinitdst|xinitdst.pl}) in devel/maxdb-buildtools. |
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| 23:32.36 | abrotman | r3tex: ^^ |
| 23:32.46 | abrotman | Estes2: absolutely |
| 23:32.52 | Estes2 | hummm |
| 23:32.53 | r3tex | abrotman: what command would i use to find that, in debian? apt-file search didn't work |
| 23:33.13 | abrotman | Estes2: allow-transfer { } .. etc |
| 23:33.18 | rutski89 | My friend needs diggs :-p http://www.digg.com/links/Free_Host_with_MySQL_ |
| 23:33.27 | abrotman | r3tex: apt-file update;apt-file search xinit |
| 23:33.50 | r3tex | abrotman: ahaaaa |
| 23:33.53 | abrotman | Estes2: might want notify too |
| 23:34.09 | Estes2 | abrotman, ok, looking at this, thank you :) |
| 23:34.14 | abrotman | Estes2: yay :) |
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| 23:34.44 | abrotman | MustangMatt: of coruse .. you should read reviews and decide for yourself .. i just picked adaptec because i like them .. many people *love* 3ware stuff |
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| 23:35.10 | d0ne | hmm..my hdd is making weird noise and grub complains that no os found...I have this problem on if debian is installed..no problem with windows |
| 23:35.11 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Yah I'm reading about both of them. The 3ware one currently looks like a winner. |
| 23:35.12 | maatttt | I have python2.4 installed, and want to try python-htmlgen, this requires python2.3, can i tell it to use 2.4 instead ? |
| 23:35.52 | abrotman | MustangMatt: i chose the adaptec because it says it was better at random IO .. and the server it was going into serves 100s of sites .. and does mail .. and all kinds of other random crap :) |
| 23:36.02 | abrotman | maybe just dozens of sites |
| 23:36.09 | MustangMatt | abrotman: I'm serving a single high volume site. |
| 23:36.18 | abrotman | MustangMatt: and the battery backup is always nice :) |
| 23:36.27 | MustangMatt | abrotman: No mail, but I am moving a lot of data around. |
| 23:36.30 | abrotman | MustangMatt: well .. with enough RAM .. might not matter |
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| 23:36.48 | abrotman | MustangMatt: the one i did was a decently high traffic/use server .. |
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| 23:37.25 | abrotman | MustangMatt: i mean .. if you want .. i can paste you some stats from the box |
| 23:37.35 | dsfas | Hello. |
| 23:37.48 | MustangMatt | abrotman: This site is about 32gb/month. Lots of small requests. Mostly html and gif files. I should have all the stats on their page. |
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| 23:38.14 | abrotman | MustangMatt: like is aid ... a single site .. might not need better random IO |
| 23:38.23 | invisibility | hi all, how can i change my date setting from EEST to UTF system? |
| 23:38.41 | abrotman | base-config |
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| 23:40.52 | bob2 | invisibility: are they timezones? |
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| 23:40.56 | r3tex | i'm missing dev support in my kernel but i don't seem to have udev installed (thought it was standard) but everything still works, what's going on? |
| 23:40.56 | abrotman | i suppose tzconfig would work eh? |
| 23:40.57 | jlil | hey any news abought sarge? |
| 23:40.57 | abrotman | what about it ? |
| 23:40.57 | bob2 | r3tex: "dev support"? |
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| 23:41.05 | jlil | no news that any changed? |
| 23:41.08 | r3tex | bob2: dev-fs |
| 23:41.14 | abrotman | jlil: what any what changed? |
| 23:41.32 | dsfas | !list |
| 23:41.32 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 23:41.35 | jlil | like wifi lan bug |
| 23:41.38 | bob2 | r3tex: devfs != udev |
| 23:41.39 | dsfas | @list |
| 23:41.40 | ravenbird | one warez list being sent |
| 23:41.45 | bob2 | dsfas: please? |
| 23:41.45 | dsfas | how do I get a list of all the channels? |
| 23:41.50 | bob2 | dsfas: /list |
| 23:41.53 | dsfas | k |
| 23:41.54 | dsfas | thanks |
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| 23:42.52 | abrotman | jlil: ok .. no idea what you're tlaking about .. you're being vague |
| 23:42.53 | bob2 | dsfas: which is useless, since there are thousands |
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| 23:42.54 | r3tex | bob2: exactly that's why i wrote, when i'm missing dev-fs, and i don't have udev installed, whats populating my /dev at bootup? |
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| 23:42.59 | bob2 | r3tex: it's a a static bunch of files on disk |
| 23:42.59 | dsfas | pooooooooop |
| 23:42.59 | dsfas | I have to poop |
| 23:42.59 | r3tex | bob2 ahaaaa |
| 23:42.59 | bob2 | r3tex: MAKEDEV created them at install time |
| 23:43.00 | jlil | abortman ok il figue it |
| 23:43.00 | dsfas | ive gone like 7 times today |
| 23:43.00 | bob2 | dsfas: we don't care |
| 23:43.00 | dsfas | is that normal? |
| 23:43.00 | mhsbaseba | HEY YOU FUCKERS EAT FUCKING SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS. FUCK SHIT ASS DICK FUCKING MONKEY FUCKING SHIT NIGGER ASSHOLE FUCKING MOTHERFUCKERS |
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| 23:43.00 | invisibility | thank you... both commands worked and solved my problem |
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| 23:43.14 | r3tex | bob2: fast =P |
| 23:43.23 | abrotman | bob2: misfire on the other guy |
| 23:43.29 | dsfas | bob2 I'm serious |
| 23:43.32 | abrotman | oh .. never mind |
| 23:43.40 | bob2 | dsfas: I don't care |
| 23:43.43 | jlil | god what a jerk |
| 23:43.58 | scx | * damn Debian users are a lot ! |
| 23:44.05 | abrotman | lilo: we noticed! :) |
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| 23:45.54 | Estes2 | abrotman, it's set but doesn't works :( |
| 23:45.57 | Estes2 | i've set the also-notify.... |
| 23:45.58 | Estes2 | nothing |
| 23:45.58 | Estes2 | and nothing in logs |
| 23:46.15 | abrotman | Estes2: did you restart both bind services ? |
| 23:46.15 | d0ne | I installed sarge and then this kernel kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 on a turion 64 cpu. Is that good pratice? |
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| 23:46.17 | abrotman | d0ne: it's not horrible |
| 23:46.17 | d0ne | practice |
| 23:46.17 | Estes2 | abrotman, yes |
| 23:46.17 | Estes2 | well |
| 23:46.17 | Estes2 | reload actualy |
| 23:46.18 | Estes2 | restarting would empty my cache |
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| 23:46.19 | abrotman | so? |
| 23:46.19 | Estes2 | abrotman, should i restart |
| 23:46.19 | Estes2 | ? |
| 23:46.19 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Was the 2410SA plug in and go under sarage or did you have to compile any additional modules? |
| 23:46.19 | Estes2 | ok... |
| 23:46.19 | Estes2 | a sec... |
| 23:46.19 | abrotman | MustangMatt: plug and go |
| 23:46.21 | d0ne | abrotman: what should i do to improve the performance? |
| 23:46.26 | abrotman | MustangMatt: and it was with amd64 for sarge |
| 23:46.33 | abrotman | d0ne: that's good enough |
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| 23:46.56 | abrotman | MustangMatt: we did not use RAID5 with it .. so i can't comment on that |
| 23:46.58 | Estes2 | abrotman, WORKS !! |
| 23:47.00 | Estes2 | :) |
| 23:47.03 | Estes2 | damn |
| 23:47.12 | abrotman | Estes2: see .. i'm smart :) |
| 23:47.16 | d0ne | :) |
| 23:47.18 | Estes2 | abrotman, thanks again man, you keep on saving my life :P |
| 23:47.22 | Estes2 | haha |
| 23:47.27 | Estes2 | never doubted of this :P |
| 23:47.34 | MustangMatt | abrotman: I'm only going to be mirroring. |
| 23:47.40 | Estes2 | there's a whlie i know you, i just changed nick |
| 23:47.40 | abrotman | MustangMatt: that's what we did .. |
| 23:47.46 | Estes2 | while * |
| 23:47.51 | Estes2 | brb |
| 23:47.54 | Estes2 | thanks again |
| 23:47.55 | abrotman | Estes2: you are gravity? |
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| 23:47.59 | Estes2 | no |
| 23:48.12 | abrotman | ok |
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| 23:48.17 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Although according to the site it looks like it's a somewhat painless process to switch from a mirror to raid 5 later if we wanted to. |
| 23:48.19 | Estes2 | i don't know you *personnaly, i just kept hanging around* |
| 23:48.27 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 23:48.34 | maatttt | I have python2.4 installed, and want to try python-htmlgen, this requires python2.3, can i tell it to use 2.4 instead ? |
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| 23:48.40 | Estes2 | brb... |
| 23:48.51 | d0ne | who in here likes windows? |
| 23:48.55 | abrotman | MustangMatt: i doubt we'd ever switch .. i had a hell of a time convincing the other people to go with hardware raid instead of swraid .. but that was mostly concerning raid5 |
| 23:49.11 | petemc | d0ne: what relevance does that have to debian? |
| 23:49.12 | amphi | d0ne: everyone |
| 23:49.12 | abrotman | maatttt: there might be a python-htmlgen-2.4 |
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| 23:49.17 | Estes2 | abrotman, i been Ox0F0-0FF and unixdruid |
| 23:49.21 | abrotman | Estes2: ah ok |
| 23:49.37 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Can I run Outlook Express under OpenVMS on a Vax cluster? |
| 23:49.46 | abrotman | maatttt: nope .. i lied .. ignore me |
| 23:49.47 | d0ne | petemc: i'm just wondering if people who like linux will not like windows |
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| 23:49.52 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: only on tuesday |
| 23:50.10 | petemc | d0ne: its a diverse group of people who use linux |
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| 23:50.21 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Fair enough. I'll wait till next week then. |
| 23:50.23 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:50.31 | maatttt | i like both. |
| 23:50.35 | d0ne | petemc yeah |
| 23:50.38 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: though you might want to try wine on openvms :) |
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| 23:51.10 | SternOfDeath | Hi |
| 23:51.11 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Well you made the right choice. I'm quickly finding out that even on nice hardware, software raid isn't a replacement for hardware raid. |
| 23:51.25 | abrotman | MustangMatt: i'm a hardware raid bigot :) |
| 23:51.50 | abrotman | stew: this came is .. bad |
| 23:51.52 | abrotman | er game |
| 23:52.00 | petemc | MustangMatt: its not? |
| 23:52.09 | abrotman | petemc: depends on your usage |
| 23:52.20 | buu | Hrm. What package is the aclocal utility in? |
| 23:52.39 | azeem | buu: the respective automake package |
| 23:52.46 | buu | Ah, thanks |
| 23:53.27 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Did you have to order your battery separate? I keep seeing it referred to as "optional" and vendors don't seem to specify. |
| 23:53.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Is wine the same thing as cygwin? |
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| 23:54.47 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: cygwin = Can't You Get Windows Into Neverneverland ? |
| 23:54.52 | d0ne | abrotman: end of log file = ATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected! (EE) no devices detected |
| 23:54.54 | bruna | alguem poderia me ajudar com o gdesklets:::/ |
| 23:54.57 | abrotman | MustangMatt: you do |
| 23:55.03 | abrotman | MustangMatt: that i found anyways |
| 23:55.09 | abrotman | !br |
| 23:55.10 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:55.25 | buu | Ok, another question. Is there any sega genesis emulator for linux/debian that actually installs? |
| 23:55.27 | abrotman | MustangMatt: though .. you might find it a waste if you have an UPS |
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| 23:55.31 | EdLin | scarynetworkguy: cygwin is an environment for Windows to run POSIX / GNU programs. |
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| 23:55.36 | abrotman | buu: yes .. i have used it |
| 23:55.42 | abrotman | buu: dgen |
| 23:55.50 | EdLin | scarynetworkguy: WINE is a program to run Windows programs on *nix. |
| 23:56.04 | abrotman | d0ne: don't specify a BUS id |
| 23:56.16 | d0ne | abrotman: how? |
| 23:56.23 | abrotman | !drxx d0ne |
| 23:56.25 | dpkg | d0ne: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:56.28 | scarynetworkguy | EdLin: apt-get install sense-of-humour. |
| 23:56.29 | buu | abrotman: Yay! |
| 23:56.34 | MustangMatt | abrotman: We do have several UPS but I don't trust them. hehe. Any recommendations on UPS while we're discussing it? I've been using APC SU1400 and 2400 etc. |
| 23:56.50 | MustangMatt | abrotman: I wouldn't mind going bigger but the cost seems to skyrocket. |
| 23:56.51 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I *knew* I could get somebody to give a serious answer. Hehe. |
| 23:56.59 | abrotman | MustangMatt: depends on lots of stuff for UPS .. how many things hooked to it .. and how much hardware in each etc |
| 23:57.20 | abrotman | MustangMatt: iirc .. apcc.com has a decent configurator |
| 23:57.28 | buu | abrotman: Hrm. I try to install the package but it gives me the apt error about not being available? |
| 23:57.28 | abrotman | MustangMatt: and they usually overshoot by quite a bit |
| 23:57.36 | abrotman | stew: should i not fill you in ? |
| 23:57.55 | EdLin | scarynetworkguy: SDNWOTN |
| 23:57.59 | MustangMatt | abrotman: Well currently I have it setup so that three servers (each with dual power supplies) share two upses. So three power supplies go to one ups and three go to the other. I'll check out apcs configurator. |
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| 23:58.12 | ircops_home | whatup. |
| 23:58.15 | abrotman | MustangMatt: apcc.com |
| 23:58.17 | scarynetworkguy | EdLin: What? |
| 23:58.29 | EdLin | scarynetworkguy: Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Net |
| 23:58.40 | abrotman | neither do obscure acronyms |
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| 23:58.59 | EdLin | abrotman: it's not that obscure, at least, it's not one I made up. :P |
| 23:59.07 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Hehe. |
| 23:59.08 | abrotman | !SDNWOTN |
| 23:59.08 | dpkg | it has been said that sdnwotn is Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Net |
| 23:59.12 | abrotman | holy shit! |
| 23:59.15 | ircops_home | lol |
| 23:59.17 | abrotman | dpkg: you know everything |
| 23:59.23 | ircops_home | dpkg: good bot |
| 23:59.24 | dpkg | Thank You! |
| 23:59.28 | ircops_home | :D |
