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| 00:00.15 | sake | thanks chea1 |
| 00:00.23 | ogum | Shadda:the gateway address i's already configured to the router ip |
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| 00:02.00 | Shadda | look, i've taken /dev/hdb1 completely out of fstab |
| 00:02.02 | Shadda | rebooted |
| 00:02.08 | Shadda | mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) |
| 00:02.08 | Shadda | /dev/hdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here! |
| 00:02.08 | eeyore- | Shadda: well, if kernel says it's mounted it's probably mounted :) |
| 00:02.22 | eeyore- | Shadda: another possibility is your /dev/hdb1 device node is wrong |
| 00:02.29 | eeyore- | Shadda: so, why not "ls -l /dev/hdb1" |
| 00:02.50 | Shadda | Gluttony:~# ls -l /dev/hdb1 |
| 00:02.50 | Shadda | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 65 2005-09-30 09:56 /dev/hdb1 |
| 00:03.56 | Novalis | valdyn: could you review my sources.list again? http://rafb.net/paste/results/IzS7hd78.html |
| 00:03.57 | eeyore- | Shadda: that looks right |
| 00:04.19 | Novalis | valdyn: just want to make sure getting sarge this time :-/ |
| 00:04.37 | Shadda | http://pastebin.com/379214 |
| 00:04.45 | Shadda | eeyore-: take a look at that... |
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| 00:05.35 | eeyore- | Shadda: i suppose you can try "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1000" |
| 00:05.43 | eeyore- | Shadda: and then try to mke2fs it again |
| 00:06.03 | Shadda | Somebody told me to do that earlier |
| 00:06.18 | Shadda | I won't paste it all here... 512000 bytes transferred in 0.040238 seconds (12724289 bytes/sec) |
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| 00:06.29 | eeyore- | Shadda: did it work? :) |
| 00:06.31 | Shadda | nope |
| 00:06.38 | Shadda | still says its in use by the system |
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| 00:06.51 | eeyore- | Shadda: how about "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb bs=512" and zero the entire disk? :-) |
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| 00:07.18 | Shadda | taking its time... |
| 00:08.00 | Shadda | should it take this long? |
| 00:08.01 | nvz | dpkg flw42 is <reply> < tga> -funroll-loops will fix everything < tga> oops, wrong channel |
| 00:08.01 | dpkg | nvz: okay |
| 00:08.03 | eeyore- | Shadda: i'm not waiting around for it :) |
| 00:08.14 | eeyore- | Shadda: of course it'll take a long time. you're writing the *entire* device |
| 00:08.19 | Shadda | ah |
| 00:08.20 | boxerboy29 | im sitting looking at a all black screen with white texts on it asked me for log in this is on fresh install of sarge i logged in and it worked can i install gnome from here |
| 00:08.28 | Shadda | heh 13gb slave drive |
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| 00:09.42 | boxerboy29 | or anyway to get back to the set up packages screen"? |
| 00:09.47 | KD-Misafir981 | ........ |
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| 00:10.00 | eeyore- | oooh, black screen with white texts on it. classic. |
| 00:10.09 | eeyore- | </sarcasm> |
| 00:10.11 | boxerboy29 | lol |
| 00:10.23 | boxerboy29 | i dont know what the screen is called |
| 00:10.30 | Shadda | terminal? |
| 00:10.33 | nvz | boxerboy29: aptitude install gnome x-window-system |
| 00:10.34 | boxerboy29 | no |
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| 00:10.52 | boxerboy29 | its the load screen during boot up |
| 00:10.56 | boxerboy29 | ok ill try that |
| 00:11.07 | nvz | boxerboy29: that installs _all_ of gnome. you may not need/want every last gnome componant that pulls in *shrug* |
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| 00:11.56 | nvz | boxerboy29: could be a sign from the gods.. maybe you should just install screen, irssi-text and links2 and get used to the console. |
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| 00:12.01 | boxerboy29 | it will be fine i can uninstall if i even get gnome and grfical package manager |
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| 00:12.08 | dvs | eeyore-: Better than blue screen with white letters ;-) |
| 00:12.24 | foreyez_ | how come when i make a script file that just runs "ls" it tells me "ls: Command not found." |
| 00:12.24 | foreyez_ | ? |
| 00:12.35 | boxerboy29 | anything better than blue screen with any text |
| 00:12.37 | eeyore- | dvs: i much prefer GURU Meditation to all |
| 00:12.38 | dvs | foreyez_: Scripts don't have a path |
| 00:12.45 | dvs | eeyore-: YYYYYEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! |
| 00:12.47 | boxerboy29 | brb gonna try this |
| 00:12.51 | foreyez_ | dvs; how do i make it so it does? |
| 00:12.53 | eeyore- | even the name rulez |
| 00:13.14 | H2OyJaBoN | is this the link to new stable-debian "sarge" (netinstall) ?---> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 00:13.18 | dvs | foreyez_: Add "PATH="....." to the beginning of the script |
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| 00:13.27 | dvs | foreyez_: Or specify the full pathname |
| 00:13.30 | dvs | of the command |
| 00:13.57 | eeyore- | foreyez_: did you edit this "script" with msdog editor? |
| 00:13.57 | boogie | H2OyJaBoN: looks to be good. |
| 00:14.04 | nvz | I've never had to specify the path to every command I ran in a script |
| 00:14.15 | eeyore- | nvz: my guess, <cr><lf> line ending |
| 00:14.18 | foreyez_ | eeyore-, no just vim |
| 00:14.36 | eeyore- | foreyez_: od -cv /path/to/script |
| 00:14.43 | eeyore- | foreyez_: show me :) |
| 00:14.49 | H2OyJaBoN | boogie ok... so i going to download it =P |
| 00:14.53 | eeyore- | (probably something equally stupid) |
| 00:15.44 | foreyez_ | eeyore, hmmmm nm... it's because i did #!/bin/csh .... i removed it now it works... |
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| 00:16.46 | eeyore- | start a shell war, apt? |
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| 00:18.14 | sched | hi panthera! |
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| 00:18.23 | yel | hello everyone |
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| 00:18.37 | ogum | dvs: any hints? on checking internet connection? |
| 00:18.40 | yel | is there some one here using vim ?? |
| 00:18.51 | eeyore- | yel: me |
| 00:19.00 | nvz | eeyore-: right this second? |
| 00:19.00 | foreyez_ | damn.... i'm trying to write find ./ -name "%1" | xargs grep "$2" .... into a script called "myfind" ... but when i run myfind it says: myfind: No match. wtf? |
| 00:19.04 | yel | im haveing a bit strange issue its not higlithing any thing |
| 00:19.08 | dvs | ogum: What does netstat -r say? |
| 00:19.10 | boxerboy29 | once gnome is installed it will boot to gnome as default from now on right? |
| 00:19.12 | eeyore- | nvz: in another terminal |
| 00:19.25 | yel | eeyore-, do have any indea why ?? |
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| 00:19.35 | eeyore- | yel: :syn on? |
| 00:19.42 | yel | yes |
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| 00:19.48 | nvz | eeyore-: phew, its a good thing. I don't think if he just asked a question _anyone_ could have helped him. |
| 00:20.03 | eeyore- | yel: doesn't know what the file is? |
| 00:20.15 | yel | eeyore-, is right |
| 00:20.28 | yel | i have typed :sny on |
| 00:20.37 | yel | thanks |
| 00:20.38 | eeyore- | right :) |
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| 00:20.54 | curt | ls |
| 00:21.02 | yel | is there a way to set it on for all the vi sessions ?? |
| 00:21.04 | tix64 | pheww, and I wanted to start ranting about terminal settings :/ |
| 00:21.10 | eeyore- | yel: ~/.vimrc |
| 00:21.16 | yel | k |
| 00:21.17 | nvz | ~/.vimrx |
| 00:21.23 | nvz | that too even |
| 00:21.25 | yel | x or c ? |
| 00:21.26 | eeyore- | vim on drugs! |
| 00:21.29 | thingfish | wow, chris fortier live on proton radio from china. |
| 00:21.45 | ogum | dvs: my router ip is 10.1.1.1 netsat -r says: default 10.1.1.1 mask 0.0.0.0 optinos UG irtt 0 Iface eth0 |
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| 00:22.11 | Landslide | i'm trying to install tomcat5 on my debian testing box |
| 00:22.16 | Landslide | how do I get java sdk on it? |
| 00:22.24 | nvz | thingfish: who is Chris Fortier, wtf is a proton radio, and who the hell cares? |
| 00:22.42 | Landslide | i downloaded an x86 install from sun, but it wasn't to install in my home directory |
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| 00:22.58 | Landslide | i thought there was an easier way? |
| 00:22.59 | Gnurdux | i have a little problem |
| 00:23.01 | eeyore- | nvz: you would if it's courtney love on pron radio from ... uh nevermind |
| 00:23.15 | Gnurdux | when i did apt-get updgrade it asked if i want to upgrade libc at the time |
| 00:23.17 | Gnurdux | i saidno |
| 00:23.22 | Gnurdux | since im running GDM |
| 00:23.26 | nvz | Courtney Love is a slut puppy, and not even a cute one. |
| 00:23.29 | Gnurdux | but now i cant install anything |
| 00:23.36 | Gnurdux | until i upgrade libc :( |
| 00:23.38 | BobsGuns | she's not even a hole |
| 00:23.38 | thingfish | nvz: sorry, pardon my enthusiasm. you are the one to talk, btw, oh king of off topic. |
| 00:23.40 | curt | ls |
| 00:23.40 | crispynix-v6 | it's rather repetitious and lousy dance music from http://www.protonradio.com/ |
| 00:23.48 | dvs | ogum: What is your IP address? |
| 00:23.51 | eeyore- | nvz: so, do you have a problem with slut puppy or cuteness? :-) |
| 00:23.57 | nvz | you'd have to be one drop dead gorgeous slut puppy to even get my attention |
| 00:24.09 | tix64 | Landslide: can't you just "apt-get intall tomcat5"? this should install kaffe with it. |
| 00:24.10 | BobsGuns | love's got quite a hole in the butt though |
| 00:24.33 | nvz | last time I seen Cortney Love was watching the Roast of Pam Anderson |
| 00:24.42 | nvz | she swore she was off drugs |
| 00:24.44 | BobsGuns | nvcz-courtney will go ass to mouth on first date - are you kidding ? |
| 00:24.48 | thingfish | yeah right |
| 00:24.58 | thingfish | and the earth is flat. |
| 00:25.01 | nvz | if she wasn't on drugs, she needed to be |
| 00:25.07 | thingfish | she'll always be on drugs. |
| 00:25.09 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 00:25.17 | curt | you know my 3 year old is standing right nect to me.... |
| 00:25.24 | ogum | dvs: 10.1.1.4 |
| 00:25.31 | thingfish | #debian is not the place for children! |
| 00:25.37 | eeyore- | curt: does he actually understand what we're talking about? |
| 00:25.38 | nvz | curt: does she read well? |
| 00:25.42 | eeyore- | curt: if not, what's the problem? |
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| 00:25.50 | Landslide | tix64: nah it complains about unmet dependancy |
| 00:26.05 | curt | just thought that i would point it out to you guys |
| 00:26.10 | nvz | you'd have to be a damn good speed reader to catch conversation in here |
| 00:26.27 | Gnurdux | ya |
| 00:26.27 | yel | i really start to apreciate debian its my first debian installation |
| 00:26.28 | thingfish | yeah, most 3 year olds can't read yet. |
| 00:26.31 | yel | thanks you guys |
| 00:26.36 | Gnurdux | he he |
| 00:26.37 | thingfish | if they can, they're really precocious. |
| 00:26.39 | yel | good night everyone |
| 00:26.42 | curt | you caught that one too huh |
| 00:26.45 | nvz | if your kid is that smart she should not be offended by anything a bunch of idiots are saying |
| 00:26.47 | eeyore- | curt: so, what does it mean when you take a 3 year old with you and talk online with a bunch of complete strangers expounding on courtney love's ... you get the idea |
| 00:26.52 | tix64 | Landslide: paste the whole output of "apt-get install tomcat5" to #flood, please. |
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| 00:27.07 | thingfish | point eeyore- |
| 00:27.24 | curt | well even so, not appropriate was the point there |
| 00:27.39 | booga | it seesm that the power of hardware is not nearly as important as the power of the algorithms employed to solve computing problems |
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| 00:27.44 | booga | for example |
| 00:27.44 | eeyore- | better not mention tubgirl, then |
| 00:27.44 | BobsGuns | it's debian |
| 00:27.48 | dvs | ogum: What does "traceroute www.debian.org" say? Print out the line before the "* * *" part |
| 00:27.54 | ke6isf | curt: It's an interesting note, but I don't always talk about when my cat curls up in my lap and starts purring. |
| 00:28.03 | nvz | I'd say comming to #debian with kids is innopropriate. |
| 00:28.14 | thingfish | it's reckless. |
| 00:28.16 | booga | a simple unix box when configured correctly can do email a relational database webserver dns NFS NIS and run a desktop all at the same time |
| 00:28.17 | BobsGuns | damn straight nvz |
| 00:28.20 | ke6isf | It's scandalous! |
| 00:28.21 | BobsGuns | call child services !~ |
| 00:28.23 | nvz | its certainly not #bzflag |
| 00:28.24 | ogum | dvs: netstat prints two lines: the one i've transcripted and: 10.0.0.0 sunbetmask 255.0.0.0, wich is the router's subnetmask. i think this is the problem the subnet mask is not properly configured |
| 00:28.33 | BobsGuns | curt, I agree witcha |
| 00:28.37 | booga | does anyone hre understand unix permissions? |
| 00:28.40 | BobsGuns | I should watch it more - |
| 00:28.41 | curt | thanks for toning it down though |
| 00:28.43 | nvz | I got yelled at before for talking dirty on #bzflag |
| 00:28.48 | eeyore- | booga: advocacy is best done properly |
| 00:28.49 | BobsGuns | I forget IRC is - indeed - for all ages |
| 00:28.49 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 00:28.49 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:29.00 | Landslide | ok |
| 00:29.01 | booga | like how u have different apps on a box ru a non root and not have them get denied access to directories they need to write to? |
| 00:29.05 | dvs | ogum: The subnetmask is correct for the 10.x.x.x range. |
| 00:29.24 | dvs | ogum: But most home routers I know can't handle that range. |
| 00:29.27 | ogum | dvs: no print |
| 00:29.30 | eeyore- | nvz: oh geez, i got yelled at for using #debian language in #gentoo |
| 00:29.34 | eeyore- | freaks! |
| 00:29.38 | Landslide | tix: done |
| 00:29.49 | ke6isf | booga: The only directories users should be able to write to are their ~, /tmp, and whatever else you designate on other partitions. What are you trying to do? |
| 00:29.51 | Landslide | tix: i've already installed kaffe... |
| 00:29.51 | booga | linux networking |
| 00:29.53 | booga | it's fun |
| 00:29.58 | eeyore- | it's like, "oh, we're tweakers but we can't handle swearing, oh we're so precious". gimme a friggin' break. |
| 00:30.04 | Landslide | i just did apt-get install 'kaffe' |
| 00:30.10 | booga | well i am trying to construct an online store |
| 00:30.22 | booga | with only rudimentary linux skills |
| 00:30.26 | booga | heh |
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| 00:30.33 | ke6isf | booga: Hooboy. |
| 00:30.37 | eeyore- | booga: one short answer, use ACL |
| 00:30.45 | booga | acl? |
| 00:30.51 | booga | what is acl? |
| 00:30.55 | booga | acess control lists? |
| 00:30.56 | nvz | eeyore-: I wouldnt even go into #gentoo without a level 4 biohazard suit |
| 00:30.58 | eeyore- | booga: longer answers, ACL give you finer-grained control over permissions than standard owner/group/other |
| 00:30.59 | ke6isf | booga: OK, where are we, what version of Debian are you using, what have you installed, and ACL is Access Control List. |
| 00:31.03 | tix64 | Landslide: okay, one moment. |
| 00:31.07 | eeyore- | booga: yep |
| 00:31.09 | Shadda` | la la la |
| 00:31.11 | booga | well |
| 00:31.16 | booga | at work I use redhat ent 4 |
| 00:31.23 | booga | but in my own biz its debian 3.1 |
| 00:31.25 | booga | :) |
| 00:31.25 | nvz | Shadda`: are you Ashlee Simpson or something? |
| 00:31.25 | ogum | dvs: traceroute says: unknown host www.debian.org |
| 00:31.32 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:31.32 | booga | running on a 256ram celeron 2600 |
| 00:31.34 | booga | emachine |
| 00:31.38 | Shadda` | nvz: are you calling me a lip syncher? |
| 00:31.43 | ke6isf | !tell booga -about enter |
| 00:31.50 | nvz | Shadda`: heh. no she sings a song called "Lala" |
| 00:31.54 | thingfish | hah! she couldn't even pull that off! |
| 00:32.07 | ke6isf | booga: In short, stick it all on one line. =^_^= |
| 00:32.09 | Shadda` | heh |
| 00:32.10 | dvs | ogum: What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file? Is your nameserver's IP in there? |
| 00:32.42 | booga | ok, what kind of programs do you guys reccomend for buidling an online store and sales andd customer service ssytem on a linux box using debian, I have read some good things about scheme and scsh as well as php, I know some apache basics, and linux adminning |
| 00:32.51 | nvz | I can't really talk smack on Ashlee anymore cause I actually started liking her lack of talent for some reason I guess I finally understood why she's such a looser |
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| 00:33.01 | ke6isf | !scheme |
| 00:33.01 | dpkg | i guess scheme is the most elegant programming language or the language with the most annoying syntax. or something that overuses you () keys. or the language with the smallest defining document, or the language with practically no syntax whatsoever, or http://www.schemers.org |
| 00:33.11 | Tortel | hello |
| 00:33.26 | eeyore- | booga: online store = many and varied, customer service system = way too complex for #debian discussions (you want CRM?) |
| 00:33.30 | thingfish | nvz: those rock stars need the money to fuel their horrible drug habits. |
| 00:33.34 | ke6isf | booga: I'm not sure you want to use scheme, let alone lisp, for web design. |
| 00:33.39 | nvz | I didn't understand until I listened to her music then it all came clean |
| 00:33.44 | eeyore- | booga: and you probably don't want to build it all yourself from scratch, it takes a while to do |
| 00:33.46 | booga | I also heard that APL by iverson is good and that debian has a language based on it called A, and also that haskell and smalltalk are nice |
| 00:33.50 | ke6isf | booga: Tell me this, what are you setting up a store for? |
| 00:33.57 | booga | to like make money |
| 00:34.01 | booga | Im poor as dirt |
| 00:34.12 | webfreak | ... |
| 00:34.13 | ke6isf | booga: No, what are you selling? |
| 00:34.21 | eeyore- | booga: why in the heck do you care about languages? |
| 00:34.30 | thingfish | not that a horrible drug habit is all that bad... |
| 00:34.39 | ke6isf | booga: And semi important, what gives you the idea that old programming languages are for web design? This is like comparing an automotive shop to a library. |
| 00:34.41 | booga | i dunno, they seem cool, and they can power online stores right? |
| 00:34.42 | webfreak | booga: so install a prewritten store manager, like something written in zope |
| 00:34.45 | eeyore- | booga: smalltalk? for web? that's horrible (actually it is for a lot of things, but) |
| 00:34.48 | webfreak | ... |
| 00:34.57 | booga | smalltalk horrible? |
| 00:35.01 | ke6isf | booga: What's your source of this information? |
| 00:35.07 | eeyore- | booga: it is for your target application |
| 00:35.29 | eeyore- | ke6isf: old back issues of BYTE magazine? |
| 00:35.35 | nvz | she's just starved for attention. tired of being Jessica's sister wants to be her own woman. I can understand. No point in wasting my breath pointing out her obvious flaws anymore. |
| 00:35.37 | ke6isf | eeyore-: That or Datamation. |
| 00:36.02 | ogum | dvs: voilá!! had only old ip there. Thanks!! dvs |
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| 00:36.08 | eeyore- | nvz: you have a field day dissecting the olsen twin then? |
| 00:36.16 | dvs | ogum: No problem |
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| 00:36.49 | thingfish | hey, I wish her nothing but the best. If some people like her music - and I must admit I'm not familiar with her stuff - and she can turn out a good album, then she deserves to make money. |
| 00:37.01 | nvz | eeyore-: bah. |
| 00:37.16 | curt | i have to be doing something wrong |
| 00:37.24 | eeyore- | thingfish: i'll give my money to cusco any day :) |
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| 00:37.28 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 00:37.51 | curt | it seems that I have to manually mount my cdrom and manually eject it everytime i change a disk |
| 00:37.51 | eeyore- | though i suspect he doesn't really need my money that badly, seeing how popular he is |
| 00:38.03 | eeyore- | curt: "eject" doesn't work? |
| 00:38.15 | eeyore- | curt: sufficiently recent versions of eject should automatically unmount for you, too |
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| 00:38.26 | curt | not the button on the cdrom but 'eject' command does |
| 00:38.43 | curt | but then i have to mount it again when i put another disk in |
| 00:38.46 | eeyore- | curt: of course, because once the cdrom is mounted, linux kernel "locks" the drive, so eject button doesn't work |
| 00:38.54 | nvz | I kind of like her raspy couldnt hold a tune with the jaws-of-life cause she spent too much time whining to daddy and talking b.s. with her airhead friends all day voice. |
| 00:39.01 | eeyore- | curt: if you want automount, run automounter :) |
| 00:39.04 | curt | is there something I am missing |
| 00:39.11 | curt | why wouldn't it automount |
| 00:39.13 | booga | http://seaside.st/ |
| 00:39.18 | curt | and let me eject it |
| 00:39.25 | booga | on contrairie smalltalk types claim it rocks balls for web |
| 00:39.28 | thingfish | you just want her, nvz. |
| 00:39.40 | curt | I don't get the cdrom icon on the desktop either when a disk is inserted |
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| 00:40.04 | boxerboy29 | this isnt fair |
| 00:40.19 | eeyore- | boxerboy29: it never is |
| 00:40.42 | ke6isf | boxerboy29: Quit using the F word in the channel! |
| 00:40.49 | curt | you mean something like autofs or am-utils |
| 00:40.54 | webfreak | ... |
| 00:41.01 | boxerboy29 | disk 6-7 didnt wanna download for me and the gnome set up gopt me to disk5 if it asks fro 6 what do i sdo |
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| 00:41.12 | ke6isf | booga: Well, seaside certainly is buzzword compliant. |
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| 00:41.16 | eeyore- | boxerboy29: you don't need physical CD's to install debian. you know that. |
| 00:41.29 | webfreak | boxerboy29: check out the network install cds |
| 00:41.36 | boxerboy29 | accrding to this i do |
| 00:41.37 | webfreak | boxerboy29: or cd, rather |
| 00:41.43 | Zarel | Okay, I just installed Debian, and all I got was a bash prompt. |
| 00:41.43 | greg | << new user hello all |
| 00:41.46 | eeyore- | boxerboy29: get a better "this", then, because you don't |
| 00:41.50 | nvz | thingfish: she's not cute at all IMO, but listening to that song Lala makes me want to fold'er and do'er |
| 00:41.58 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:41.58 | dvs | boxerboy29: You don't need all the disks to install |
| 00:42.08 | booga | haskell I'm not so sure it has wash http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~thiemann/haskell/WASH/ about with the web and someone said it doesnt scale well because there are so many functions, and they get too numberous, but hey, and as far as scheme goes I dont know of a framework, but common lisp has ucw or clhp http://common-lisp.net/project/clhp/ http://common-lisp.net/project/ucw/ |
| 00:42.09 | boxerboy29 | netinstall has gnome and kde and stuff? |
| 00:42.09 | thingfish | I don't think she's all that bad looking. |
| 00:42.14 | eeyore- | boxerboy29: you don't even need *any* disk if you can netboot |
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| 00:42.18 | Zarel | Then I installed the desktop environment, and I got a bash prompt with colors. |
| 00:42.20 | booga | now APL im not knowing shit about |
| 00:42.21 | eeyore- | but that's pushing it |
| 00:42.21 | booga | at all |
| 00:42.22 | dvs | boxerboy29: No but it gets it over the net |
| 00:42.27 | thingfish | I mean, her sister is fantastic, but she's not chopped liver. |
| 00:42.28 | webfreak | boxerboy29: netinstall includes the base installation, you select what you want afterwards |
| 00:42.30 | Zarel | How am I supposed to get KDE? |
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| 00:42.52 | ke6isf | booga: Look, in short, EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG. |
| 00:43.04 | boxerboy29 | so instead of looking for cds it uses an ftp or http site |
| 00:43.10 | eeyore- | booga: i have a pretty good idea why you're poor |
| 00:43.13 | nvz | thingfish: Its got an alright beat I guess for f*****, and I can just picture her la la la'ing the whole time out of tune.. heh |
| 00:43.15 | greg | could some one tell me if i need a virus killer for ubuntu |
| 00:43.18 | eeyore- | booga: you get sidetracked easily, no focus |
| 00:43.34 | dondelelcaro | greg: ubuntu could |
| 00:43.43 | dondelelcaro | greg: /join #ubuntu |
| 00:43.49 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 00:44.15 | greg | thanx |
| 00:44.15 | Zarel | How do I get KDE working? |
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| 00:44.35 | webfreak | :\ |
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| 00:44.38 | crispynix-v6 | Zarel: apt-get install kde ? |
| 00:44.46 | eeyore- | nvz: i'd like to buy a vowel please, "e" for the f***** |
| 00:44.50 | thingfish | Zarel: never. |
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| 00:45.27 | crispynix-v6 | webfreak: what's wrong? |
| 00:45.43 | webfreak | crispynix-v6: the repetition of questions over and over. |
| 00:45.55 | webfreak | frequently. |
| 00:45.57 | Shadda` | eeyore-: hey, do you have a timestamp of when you told me to run that command? My clock says its been 40 minutes but I don't believe it :P |
| 00:46.04 | crispynix-v6 | webfreak: heh, you must be new to debian (though not, as I recall, #e :) |
| 00:46.07 | eeyore- | Shadda`: nope |
| 00:46.09 | crispynix-v6 | er, #debian |
| 00:46.14 | webfreak | crispynix-v6: uh, not quite |
| 00:46.15 | eeyore- | Shadda`: it's probably true |
| 00:46.27 | Shadda` | hrm |
| 00:46.32 | Shadda` | well it still hasn't finished yet |
| 00:46.41 | eeyore- | Shadda`: you wanna stop? :-) |
| 00:46.45 | webfreak | crispynix-v6: i've been idling around here for a handful of years |
| 00:46.48 | crispynix-v6 | webfreak: it's the weekend, some people might be drnka and on irc. |
| 00:46.48 | Shadda` | would it screw up? |
| 00:46.52 | webfreak | crispynix-v6: heh |
| 00:46.54 | eeyore- | Shadda`: worth a try :-) |
| 00:46.55 | crispynix-v6 | webfreak: I know; I have too. |
| 00:47.01 | webfreak | crispynix-v6: cool ;) |
| 00:47.11 | eeyore- | Shadda`: if it still doesn't work you can let it dd again overnight or something |
| 00:47.18 | webfreak | crispynix-v6: and i was in #e on efnet since 1998 or so |
| 00:47.18 | Shadda` | bah |
| 00:47.20 | Shadda` | didn't work |
| 00:47.28 | eeyore- | Shadda`: wanna give me root? |
| 00:47.33 | eeyore- | uh no, better not |
| 00:47.36 | Shadda` | killed the process, ran mke2fs again and its still screwed up |
| 00:47.38 | eeyore- | maybe from home, not from work :) |
| 00:47.39 | booga | wow |
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| 00:47.42 | crispynix-v6 | webfreak: I started using E in '98 or '99, don't think I was on the efnet chan tho. |
| 00:47.46 | crispynix-v6 | hf :) |
| 00:47.49 | webfreak | crispynix-v6: ah, cool |
| 00:47.56 | booga | that may be a good psychological observation, I get sidetracked EZ, no focus |
| 00:48.01 | Landslide | i'm trying to install tomcat5 on my debian testing box |
| 00:48.07 | Shadda` | okay, if it was TRUELY in use by the system, wouldn't lsof report it? |
| 00:48.08 | booga | tomcat 5 is simple to install |
| 00:48.12 | booga | I ve done it 0 times |
| 00:48.12 | Shadda` | Gluttony:~# lsof | grep hdb |
| 00:48.13 | webfreak | i need to get back into e, i've been using gnome too much these days |
| 00:48.13 | booga | 40 |
| 00:48.15 | Shadda` | returns nothing |
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| 00:48.20 | Landslide | i have installed kaffe... |
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| 00:48.31 | Landslide | but it still says unmet dependancies when i apt-get install. |
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| 00:48.35 | booga | do you have the tar.gz ball on your debian box? |
| 00:48.35 | ke6isf | booga: Please stop punctuating your lines with enter |
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| 00:48.42 | eeyore- | Shadda`: it's probably something on the partition that's flagging/making mke2fs think it's in use |
| 00:48.57 | booga | do you need a certain version |
| 00:48.59 | crispynix-v6 | ffs, can't even /msg when not registered? jebus. |
| 00:49.06 | Shadda` | eeyore-: hrm there is no partition now |
| 00:49.23 | booga | or just tomcat 5.5.9 because to install it all you do is untar the set the javahome environmental variable |
| 00:49.24 | eeyore- | Shadda`: i know, but doesn't mean the *data* isn't there when the partition is recreated the exact same spot |
| 00:49.30 | booga | kinda simple |
| 00:49.45 | eeyore- | Shadda`: if you want, try making *two* partitions to make sure the superblocks no longer fall in the exact same spots as before |
| 00:49.45 | Shadda` | eeyore-: anything I can do besides the dd thing/ |
| 00:49.53 | eeyore- | shada: sure, see above |
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| 00:50.26 | eeyore- | Shadda`: or, just use "-F" to force :-) |
| 00:50.30 | ke6isf | booga: With all due respect, my advice here is to sit back and observe. Landslide needs help with the Debian way, and while tarballs are great, they aren't necessary. |
| 00:50.38 | eeyore- | Shadda`: (but -F is not geeky enough) |
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| 00:50.51 | Shadda` | k writing two partitions... |
| 00:51.13 | eeyore- | Shadda`: if that still doesn't work, try -F with the only one partition and count yourself lucky :-) |
| 00:51.16 | nvz | thingfish: if she wasnt such an attention whore I might find her attractive. I knew this girl who had some really cute natural features like a little freckle on her lip and other things nobody would ever notice cause she would cover it all up with makeup and dye her hair all the time. We were never more than friends cause she had my attention from the first minute I saw her but would constantly try too hard to get it. All I ever wanted was to s |
| 00:51.36 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:51.41 | Shadda` | eeyore-: mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) |
| 00:51.41 | Shadda` | /dev/hdb2 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here! |
| 00:51.44 | Shadda` | same thing with hdb1 |
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| 00:51.54 | eeyore- | nvz: was to ... what what???? |
| 00:52.12 | eeyore- | is this gonna be pg-13? |
| 00:52.21 | eeyore- | Shadda`: -F then |
| 00:52.33 | Shadda` | on which command? mke2fs or? |
| 00:52.43 | eeyore- | Shadda`: something is screwed with your system :-) (mke2fs -F -j /dev/hdb1) |
| 00:52.59 | nvz | eeyore-: heh client cut-off eh? "see her natural element not what she thinks I will like. Never knew from day-to-day who she was going to be and I dont think she did either." |
| 00:53.07 | Shadda` | wee |
| 00:53.08 | Shadda` | there it goes |
| 00:53.14 | Shadda` | argh |
| 00:53.17 | Shadda` | @#$%@%@ |
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| 00:53.26 | Shadda` | Writing inode tables: done |
| 00:53.26 | Shadda` | Creating journal (32768 blocks): mke2fs: Device or resource busy |
| 00:53.43 | booga | I in fact have an online tutorial for basic tomcat installation http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=14669808&blogID=31536934 |
| 00:53.58 | booga | how do I contribute that to the tomcat jakrta or debian communties? |
| 00:54.16 | booga | btw does that load for you people? |
| 00:54.17 | eeyore- | Shadda`: debsums e2fsprogs |
| 00:54.43 | nvz | my cousin is one of those people who transforms himself everytime he meets someone new. its unattractive to me when people do that. You can never learn who they are cause they just like whatever you like, and they change everything about themselves from day to day. |
| 00:54.44 | Shadda` | sec, installing it |
| 00:55.09 | Shadda` | eeyore-: OK on everything listed |
| 00:55.15 | eeyore- | Shadda`: i'm out of ideas |
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| 00:55.27 | Shadda` | this is nuts |
| 00:55.56 | eeyore- | Shadda`: it's hard to guess unless i have shell, i know how that sounds. i'm not a root whore if that's what you're wondering :-) it's all about bandwidth |
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| 00:56.00 | booga | can anyone see that page? |
| 00:56.00 | Shadda` | there's gotta be some doomsday command that'll just -destroy- everything on the drive and lemme start from scratch |
| 00:56.02 | eeyore- | anyway, gotta go |
| 00:56.10 | booga | http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=14669808&blogID=31536934 |
| 00:56.13 | eeyore- | Shadda`: it might not be the drive |
| 00:56.14 | kingsley__ | Does ~/.kde/cache-$(uname -n) need to be backed up? |
| 00:56.57 | xsquared | hi, im just wondering about filesystems... and which one i should choose for my new install. atm im using ext3 but i heard XFS was faster and more reliable. What about UFS? |
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| 00:57.13 | boxerboy29 | ok now how do i get to gnome it is finished and says i have new mail in /var/mail/name |
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| 00:57.22 | ke6isf | booga: For that URL, I'd suggest checking the Debian mailing lists: http://lists.debian.org |
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| 00:57.37 | booga | checking? I wrote it |
| 00:57.55 | booga | do you mean submit it ot the debian list? can anyone here open it? |
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| 00:58.02 | nvz | boxerboy29: /etc/init.d/gdm restart; exit |
| 00:58.07 | ke6isf | booga: For what you wish to do, they would not only be able to guide you, they could also tell you what you need to do. |
| 00:58.16 | booga | ahh |
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| 00:58.49 | xsquared | which filesystem should i use for my new debian (dualbooted with freebsd) installation? |
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| 00:59.01 | Shadda` | ext3? |
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| 00:59.26 | |sparr| | Why might printf("\a"); beep correctly from the console, but not if i run the app from an xterm? Could this be a WM-specific issue? |
| 00:59.29 | xsquared | Shadda`: i thought ext3 was old just a rip of ext2 with journalling |
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| 01:00.19 | nvz | hmm seen The Longest Yard last night, and the Stewie Griffen Story the night before... /me flips through imdb.com |
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| 01:00.45 | boxerboy29 | it says no such file or directory when i type /ect/init.d/gdm restat; exit |
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| 01:01.19 | xsquared | maybe someone should ban that rn:zurnanet fella? |
| 01:01.48 | boxerboy29 | oops |
| 01:01.53 | boxerboy29 | brb |
| 01:02.01 | nvz | xsquared: maybe you need a nospambot script :P |
| 01:02.09 | xsquared | maybe i do |
| 01:02.16 | nvz | its the ones who stay for a minute or more and change nicks that piss me off |
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| 01:02.29 | nvz | like its doing now |
| 01:02.32 | nvz | dds |
| 01:02.34 | nvz | ffs even |
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| 01:02.46 | xsquared | yeah |
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| 01:03.19 | xsquared | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.19 | xsquared | debian with freebsd dualbooted |
| 01:03.26 | nvz | as you can tell nvz doesnt like shape shifters human or otherwise |
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| 01:03.56 | journey_ | emre_26, hello sis |
| 01:03.57 | boxerboy29 | ok after i type it it logs me out |
| 01:04.24 | boxerboy29 | when i log in it gives me a message stating i have new mail |
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| 01:04.53 | journey_ | boxerboy29, ok |
| 01:05.08 | BobsGuns | so many problems here |
| 01:05.13 | journey_ | hi |
| 01:05.21 | boxerboy29 | should i try rebooting??? and see if i get gnome after that? |
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| 01:05.33 | journey_ | BobsGuns: not problems, user error and challenges |
| 01:05.34 | nvz | journey_: what is the square root of twenty five? |
| 01:05.35 | ogum | Changed kde-> component chooser-> browser from default (konqueror) to mozilla. Had trouble and went back to konqueror. but now konqueror have access to the internet (irc, ping, etc) but no browser access. tried epiphany, etc. More. konqueror opens 59 windows!!! any help? |
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| 01:05.48 | journey_ | nvz: 5 |
| 01:05.57 | nvz | interesting |
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| 01:06.07 | nvz | so you are a trolling bot keeper, not a bot |
| 01:06.10 | thingfish | you know, the debian installer is so easy, I just can't understand how people screw it up. |
| 01:06.14 | journey_ | nvz: what is? |
| 01:06.14 | nvz | like a bot, but squishier. |
| 01:06.23 | BobsGuns | indeed |
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| 01:06.32 | journey_ | nvz: what is interesting? |
| 01:06.45 | nvz | journey_: that you responded correctly to my test. |
| 01:06.45 | journey_ | nvz: im like a bot? |
| 01:06.45 | boxerboy29 | it installed good just no packages :9 |
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| 01:07.12 | journey_ | nvz: well I thought you asked me and so I answered |
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| 01:07.41 | journey_ | nvz: its me, LightVision |
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| 01:08.17 | nvz | LightVision: indeed. though you came into the channel immediatly calling a spambot your "sis" and then seemingly antagonizing people |
| 01:08.55 | LightVision | nvz: antagonizing people? well thats your personal opinion, not fact |
| 01:09.04 | xsquared | why did you call it sis then? |
| 01:09.12 | LightVision | nvz: If I upset you so deeply, simply ignore me |
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| 01:09.53 | nvz | LightVision: indeed. just seemed strange you were responding in such a way to people talking immediatly joining the channel. I suspected you were a chatter bot |
| 01:10.14 | LightVision | nvz: was just beiong friendly |
| 01:10.26 | LightVision | saying hello to someone entering channel |
| 01:10.34 | xsquared | i want to know why you called it sis? |
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| 01:11.48 | nvz | LightVision: ok. staying low tonight? |
| 01:12.15 | LightVision | nvz: not as low as your self-esteem :) |
| 01:12.20 | nvz | heh |
| 01:12.29 | xsquared | pfft |
| 01:12.30 | LightVision | nvz: :) |
| 01:12.43 | LightVision | nvz: jk ;) |
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| 01:15.03 | LightVision | cevizoglu: lol |
| 01:16.00 | schorpp | lol |
| 01:16.13 | nvz | if its before 6am, after 11am or you arent at work.. you are definatly high. |
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| 01:16.15 | LightVision | :) |
| 01:16.29 | LightVision | schorpp: how are you? |
| 01:16.49 | schorpp | fine thx, u ? |
| 01:17.00 | LightVision | nvz: I dont work |
| 01:17.13 | LightVision | schorpp: im great :) |
| 01:17.28 | schorpp | great 2 hear |
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| 01:17.52 | nvz | oh boy History Of Violence got 10 out of 10 stars.. I wonder how one should realistically interpret a 10 star rating system by a bunch of film critics |
| 01:18.42 | LightVision | nvz: I dont believe anything I read. I question and challenge everything for truth and accuracy |
| 01:18.54 | LightVision | and who says the film critics have same taste as me or you? |
| 01:18.56 | thingfish | I bet not everything. |
| 01:19.13 | LightVision | film critics hate everyone and everything, very negative people |
| 01:19.23 | nvz | maybe I should see what they think of movies I've already seen |
| 01:19.41 | LightVision | film critics have given movies 1 out of 10 amd when I saw the movie I loved it |
| 01:19.54 | LightVision | nvz: why? who are they to tell YOU what YOU like? |
| 01:20.16 | nvz | yeah well people can like dumb movies.. depends on why you are watching a movie in the first place |
| 01:20.37 | LightVision | film critics are pessimistic, hate everyone and everything, very negative people indeed. Who cares what they think? |
| 01:20.39 | nvz | you can be broke, lost your wife and your job and watch Jerry Maguire 100 times and love it. |
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| 01:21.06 | nvz | thats happened to me all except the loosing my wife because I was never merried |
| 01:21.14 | LightVision | who are they to be a navigational guide to my life and what I like and watch? |
| 01:21.14 | nvz | married even |
| 01:21.33 | LightVision | i am not a robot |
| 01:21.41 | nvz | oh yeah the loosing part too.. thats funny typo there |
| 01:21.41 | LightVision | i think for myselfd |
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| 01:22.58 | LightVision | too many people are guided like zombies without brains by people in the media etc! They allow them to think for them, and they dont think for themselves, and never question and challenge anything they read for accuracy and truth |
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| 01:23.14 | LightVision | no wonder we have so many misled and deceived robots walking the Earth :P |
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| 01:23.31 | caphuso | or whining on IRC how bad the world is |
| 01:23.37 | reticent | lol |
| 01:24.08 | rukos_ | how can I get bitchx to highlight messages to me. (It highlights them if I get on irc with my linux user name.) |
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| 01:25.01 | LightVision | so few people have leadership skills, so they just blindly follow the crowd into the ditch |
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| 01:25.18 | LightVision | rukos_: who you calling a bitch? :P |
| 01:25.32 | thingfish | LightVision: why don't you just come out with your evangelical fundamentalist agenda/ideology and be up front about it? |
| 01:25.46 | nvz | heh |
| 01:26.01 | LightVision | thingfish: hello there, didnt see you. how is your weekend so far? |
| 01:26.14 | rukos_ | LightVision: hehe, there it did it! Did you make it do that? |
| 01:26.25 | LightVision | its a long weekened here in Australia |
| 01:26.34 | nvz | rukos_: he typed your nick name |
| 01:26.43 | caphuso | rukos_: like this |
| 01:26.45 | Presently42 | Hi, I have a problem. I recently got a new laptop and WiFi is not working properly. It will connect but the connection is always weird. Sometimes it gives me normal high speed, sometimes pages load after a good 15 seconds of waiting, and sometimes they just ping timeout. Wired internet works properly. Any ideas? |
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| 01:27.26 | LightVision | nvz: why? you can sleep all you want when you are dead. So in meantime, stay awake and enjoy your journey :) |
| 01:27.28 | rukos_ | right, lot's of people were doing that, it wasn't working earlier (I made a small change in my .bitchxrc - it worked) |
| 01:27.29 | rukos_ | thanks |
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| 01:27.35 | citricoder | hi all |
| 01:27.47 | LightVision | rukos_: cool :) |
| 01:27.50 | Presently42 | Anyone think they could help me? |
| 01:27.51 | LightVision | citricoder: hello sis |
| 01:27.55 | nvz | LightVision: go directly to hell, do not pass go or collect $200 |
| 01:28.05 | webfreak | hmm.. for ispell there's iamerican and ibritish, where's irobot? ;) |
| 01:28.06 | citricoder | i have a sound problemin sarge, when i run alsamixer i got: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 01:28.08 | LightVision | Presently42: there are many experienced people here that can help |
| 01:28.14 | citricoder | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 01:28.20 | LightVision | nvz: there is no literal hell |
| 01:28.21 | citricoder | sry |
| 01:28.22 | cevizoglu | webfreak, it went to /dev/null |
| 01:28.38 | Presently42 | LightVision: Thanks, did you see my problem? It is with WiFi. |
| 01:28.42 | nvz | LightVision: thats what everyone says when they are going to hell |
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| 01:29.08 | LightVision | nvz: no, thats what people who know the real truth say |
| 01:29.14 | cevizoglu | nvz: you've heard people say stuff when they're going to hell? creepy |
| 01:29.19 | webfreak | that's so far from the real truth it isn't even funny. |
| 01:29.30 | LightVision | Presently42: sorry no, nvz would know |
| 01:29.32 | schorpp | @%&$#! |
| 01:29.33 | nvz | cevizoglu: yeah I've got a sixth sense |
| 01:29.39 | citricoder | now listening Apples & Oranges (pink floyd) |
| 01:29.42 | cevizoglu | nvz, I C |
| 01:29.46 | webfreak | this isn't the place for such discussions though |
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| 01:30.14 | Presently42 | nvz: could you help me? I am having a problem with WiFi. I said what it was before, i could repeat it if you missed it. Would you be able to help me |
| 01:30.15 | Gnea | hrm |
| 01:30.15 | LightVision | webfreak: what makes you think you have all the truth? |
| 01:30.22 | nvz | webfreak: feel free to take him elsewhere ;) |
| 01:30.25 | cevizoglu | webfreak, no, it's much better to talk about the robotic languages here ;) |
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| 01:30.35 | schorpp | how do You do this <user>: abcdeftzhjk ? |
| 01:30.38 | webfreak | LightVision: what makes you think you do? |
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| 01:30.48 | webfreak | LightVision: i'm not starting a debate in here, or anywhere else right now. |
| 01:30.59 | LightVision | webfreak: I dont, I could be wrong about a lot of things! could you? |
| 01:31.07 | Gnea | webfreak: hey man |
| 01:31.16 | Gnea | webfreak: ltns |
| 01:31.18 | nvz | Presently42: not really. we have similar issues here.. but its because they keep the pcs in little cupboards with the antennas behind a bunch of metal |
| 01:31.19 | webfreak | Gnea: yo |
| 01:31.33 | webfreak | Gnea: yeah |
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| 01:31.54 | Presently42 | nvz, what does that mean |
| 01:32.21 | LightVision | Presently42: ignore him :P |
| 01:32.29 | Presently42 | Bastard. :P |
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| 01:32.35 | schorpp | ? |
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| 01:32.47 | xsquared | fellas, i want to dualboot linux and freebsd. what filesystem should i use that is compatiable? |
| 01:32.48 | nvz | Presently42: means sticking a pc with an antenna comming out the back facing the oppisite direction of the base with a big metal pc inbetween it and solid metal doors.. doesnt help the signal get through much |
| 01:33.16 | LightVision | xsquared: what about ext3? |
| 01:33.32 | egon_spengler | xsquared: ext2 is only thing FreeBSD will understand |
| 01:33.35 | cevizoglu | xsquared, hfs+ |
| 01:33.36 | lukewarm | hi, I just did a fresh netinstall of sarge, I'm doing a dist-upgrade now and apt is warning me that e2fsprogs shouldn't be removed... |
| 01:33.59 | xsquared | what about bsds filesystem? |
| 01:34.03 | Presently42 | nvz, you're a bastard. Remind me to go to the Ubuntu people next time, they actually help others |
| 01:34.07 | lukewarm | I've apparently got some dependancies hosed but don't know how to find out what or how to resolve it |
| 01:34.08 | xsquared | is that compatiable with linux? |
| 01:34.20 | egon_spengler | xsquared: Only if kernel is compiled to support it |
| 01:34.21 | cevizoglu | Presently42, go to the ubuntu people |
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| 01:34.25 | Presently42 | I shall. |
| 01:35.50 | cevizoglu | xsquared, on what arch? |
| 01:36.12 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:36.45 | xsquared | cevizoglu: x86, soon to be amd64 |
| 01:36.55 | cevizoglu | xsquared, nevermind on hfs+ then :P |
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| 01:38.07 | lukewarm | can anyone recommend how to resolve a "Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop"? |
| 01:38.35 | xsquared | can i use UFS in linux? |
| 01:38.44 | mith | read only |
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| 01:41.54 | LightVision | blackchat: hello black cat |
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| 01:43.01 | Romano | hi there ! anyone able to help me sharing my cups printer via samba ? |
| 01:43.01 | lukewarm | oh wonderful, D-I put 'testing' in my sources.list for this mirror instead of sarge |
| 01:43.11 | Romano | getting an error on my windows client |
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| 01:43.22 | citricoder | I'm using a Sarge, but i can't find 'zlib' package, i need it to compile aMule |
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| 01:43.32 | citricoder | is zlib in sarge? |
| 01:43.43 | mwilson | citricoder: For many years. |
| 01:43.56 | Goran_ | Romaro: you might be able to use a lpd printer directly in windows. i don't know about cups |
| 01:44.04 | citricoder | my apt-cache search zlib doesn't find it |
| 01:44.20 | mwilson | citricoder: If you say so. |
| 01:44.35 | citricoder | i have main/contrib/non-free from rediris, but zlib isn't there |
| 01:44.49 | mwilson | It's not even remotely worth arguing about. |
| 01:44.59 | lukewarm | mwilson, you're a dick. |
| 01:45.04 | lukewarm | the package isn't called zlib |
| 01:45.04 | mwilson | lukewarm: Oh? |
| 01:45.11 | mwilson | lukewarm: No kidding. |
| 01:45.14 | Romano | Goran_: the printer is working fine in cups |
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| 01:45.26 | Romano | it seems to be only permissions problem |
| 01:45.27 | foo | Anyone play counterstrike on debian? Can I apt-get it ? Don't think so |
| 01:45.30 | mwilson | lukewarm: And apt-cache wouldn't have found it either way? |
| 01:45.34 | tix64 | citricoder: oh, come on. don't tell us that "apt-cache search zlib" doesn't print anything? |
| 01:45.56 | citricoder | excuse me, it shows a lot of lines |
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| 01:46.06 | citricoder | but what line is the correct? |
| 01:46.40 | citricoder | what is the name of the package that contains zlib? |
| 01:46.43 | mwilson | citricoder: Gee, probably the ones at the bottom of the list that say 'zlib'. That *is* what you said you were looking for. |
| 01:46.49 | thingfish | probably zlib1g |
| 01:47.14 | Goran_ | Romaro: i meant, that you might be able to use the printer on a windows pc without samba |
| 01:47.44 | tix64 | citricoder: and probably -- as you want to compile a program against it -- you need a -dev package |
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| 01:48.16 | citricoder | tix64 ok |
| 01:48.25 | Romano | Goran_: i don't understand, how to access it via the network ? |
| 01:48.35 | citricoder | tix64: checking for zlib >= 1.1.4... no |
| 01:48.35 | citricoder | checking for zlib in peer directory... no |
| 01:48.35 | citricoder | configure: error: unable to use zlib - no peer found |
| 01:48.56 | citricoder | This message is from aMule, ./configure |
| 01:49.04 | mwilson | citricoder: Yes, until you actually install the packages, you will in fact get that error, or others like it. |
| 01:49.32 | liable | hrm, wpa supplicant reckons i dont have a config file.. |
| 01:49.35 | tix64 | citricoder: and now? you did install the zlib development package? |
| 01:49.47 | lukewarm | citricoder, install zlib1g-dev |
| 01:49.48 | Goran_ | Romano: which windows do you have? in mine, you can go to "add printer" then select "network printer", and it allows entering an url (although i don't know what a cups URL is supposed to be like) |
| 01:50.02 | Romano | XP |
| 01:50.29 | Romano | Goran_: and i can add the printer, the thing is its state is "Access denied. Can't connect" |
| 01:50.44 | mwilson | Romano: But can you send a job to it? |
| 01:50.46 | citricoder | zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.2.2-4) but 1:1.2.2-4.sarge.2 going to be instaled. |
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| 01:51.03 | citricoder | broken packages. |
| 01:51.11 | Romano | mwilson: from windows no, but the printer works fine (printing a test page via cups admin) |
| 01:51.33 | tix64 | citricoder: apt-get upgrade your system first |
| 01:51.35 | mwilson | Romano: How do you know you can't send a job from Windows? |
| 01:51.48 | Romano | i'm getting an error message |
| 01:51.53 | citricoder | apt-get upgrade? sure? ok |
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| 01:51.55 | Romano | and cups admin doesn't show any job |
| 01:51.58 | mwilson | When you try to do what? |
| 01:52.23 | cmatheson | hey guys, i'm trying to get tvout on my nvidia geforce2 working... when i try to start x it says 'screen(s) found, but none have a useable configuration' |
| 01:52.32 | cmatheson | is there anyway i can get more output as to what the problem is? |
| 01:52.32 | Romano | to print something from windows to this printer :) |
| 01:52.33 | citricoder | tix64: 0 packages to upgrade! |
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| 01:52.39 | citricoder | ans same trouble :( |
| 01:52.42 | mwilson | Yes, and above that in the log, it actually tells you what it thinks is wrong. |
| 01:52.58 | cmatheson | mwilson: no there is no other EE lines |
| 01:53.04 | Romano | [2005/10/01 03:41:46, 0] printing/printing.c:print_job_start(2303) |
| 01:53.04 | Romano | print_job_start: insufficient permissions to open spool file /var/spool/samba/smbprn.00000018.eHDYvj. |
| 01:53.11 | Romano | (sorry for pasting 2 lines :)) |
| 01:53.19 | mwilson | cmatheson: Except that there are, of course. |
| 01:53.32 | cmatheson | mwilson: like MIT-X-SCREENSAVER |
| 01:54.03 | cmatheson | mwilson: no other lines contain EE |
| 01:54.15 | cmatheson | there aren't even any warning's except for some crap about defoma fonts |
| 01:54.15 | cheal | cmatheson: what about "WW"? |
| 01:54.22 | tix64 | citricoder: what do the commands "dpkg -l zlib1g|grep ^ii" and "apt-cache show zlib1g-dev|grep ^Version" produce? |
| 01:54.28 | cmatheson | cheal: just the fonts... if i switch it back to my monitor it works fine |
| 01:54.30 | Goran_ | Romano: doesn't cups run as root? |
| 01:54.41 | Romano | cups apt-getted, i don't know :) |
| 01:54.47 | cmatheson | cheal: i added the lines for "TVStandard" and "ConnectedMonitor" and what not... still no luck |
| 01:54.58 | cheal | cmatheson: consider posting your log somewhere |
| 01:55.05 | Romano | 03:55:44 [root@tankjr][/home/romano]# ps aux | grep cupsd |
| 01:55.05 | Romano | root 21034 0.0 1.3 8608 2624 ? Ss Sep28 0:55 /usr/sbin/cupsd -F |
| 01:55.23 | cmatheson | cheal: yeah... i'd like to do that except i have no network down here by my tv :( (i'm using my laptop for the irc) |
| 01:56.17 | cmatheson | cheal: the only semi-relevant line i can think of is "(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are not supported on this GPU |
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| 01:56.32 | citricoder | tix64: ii zlib1g 1.2.2-4.sarge. compression library - runtime |
| 01:57.00 | mwilson | citricoder: And he's told you twice now to install the -dev package. |
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| 01:57.13 | citricoder | tix64: Version: 1:1.2.2-4 |
| 01:57.30 | citricoder | mwilson: I got error, broken packages. |
| 01:57.43 | Romano | (666 users on the channel, brrrr :p) |
| 01:57.54 | Tortel | reinstall the package |
| 01:57.55 | golly | hey all.....how would I pipe the output of locate into a change directory command..... locate file | cd?? |
| 01:58.14 | Romano | Goran_: no idea ? |
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| 01:58.58 | cheal | cmatheson: that looks relevant indeed |
| 01:59.10 | Goran_ | no idea how can it not have access when it's root. maybe you need login/password, or to enable the windows pc's ip in the cups configuration? |
| 01:59.27 | nvz | the critics on IMDB are either mostly male, or females like really shitty movies. nearly all the top movies by women that arent also on the mens list are less than or equal to 3 out of 10 stars :P |
| 01:59.55 | Romano | Goran_: i saw many smb.conf files trying to solve my problem |
| 01:59.59 | tix64 | citricoder: you had security.debian.org temporarily in your /etc/apt/sources.list, but now you haven't anymore? |
| 02:00.07 | Romano | it seems that there is no need to add special rights |
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| 02:01.00 | golly | anyone ......how would I pipe the output of locate into a change directory command..... locate file | cd?? |
| 02:01.24 | nvz | golly: pipe it to a while loop |
| 02:01.49 | Guerin | nvz: s/on imdb// |
| 02:01.59 | nvz | golly: while read pathname; do cd $pathname; ...etc...; done |
| 02:02.08 | Goran_ | Romano: so error log is from samba, or cups? |
| 02:02.11 | Romano | samba |
| 02:02.38 | golly | nvz: cheers |
| 02:02.43 | Romano | Goran_: cups error log is empty |
| 02:02.54 | citricoder | tix4: I deleted that line. |
| 02:03.33 | Goran_ | that's strange - if samba creates it's own spool file, how can it not have access to it. does samba run as root? |
| 02:03.36 | tix64 | citricoder: readd it, run "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get install zlib1g-dev" and be done with it. |
| 02:03.56 | Romano | 04:04:43 [root@tankjr][/var/log/cups]# ps aux | grep smbd |
| 02:03.56 | Romano | root 31927 0.0 1.9 9132 3688 ? S Sep30 0:00 smbd |
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| 02:04.20 | citricoder | tix64: ok, great. |
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| 02:05.21 | sparr_ | the debian packaged program "beep" is capable of beeping my system speaker setuid root, from within X. a simple C program main(){printf("\a");} is not, and neither is another X app i have. the C program works from a virtual terminal. what in X could be stopping my non-root beeps? |
| 02:05.27 | Romano | Goran_: i'm going to bed, thank u for ur help |
| 02:05.27 | golly | nvz: why doesn't locate file | cd work? |
| 02:05.30 | Romano | see ya :) |
| 02:05.58 | zinx | sparr_: X allows you to set the volume/frequency/duration of X beeps |
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| 02:06.26 | citricoder | Diference between upgrade & dist-upgrade' |
| 02:06.28 | citricoder | ? |
| 02:06.37 | mwilson | citricoder: The man page says...? |
| 02:06.50 | citricoder | lol |
| 02:06.56 | golly | nvz: forget it....figgered it already......locate output is a file, not a directory. |
| 02:07.02 | mwilson | sparr_: What's that little C program supposed to do without a STDOUT to send the BEL to? |
| 02:07.24 | mwilson | citricoder: Why is that amusing? |
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| 02:08.04 | sparr_ | zinx: where, how? |
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| 02:08.17 | sparr_ | mwilson: very good question, i dont know. |
| 02:09.45 | citricoder | All i have to say is good bye! |
| 02:09.53 | citricoder | All i have to say to you is good bye! |
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| 02:16.20 | foo | If I halt my system and it doesn't shut off.. but just say "Power down" .. what do I need to do to turn it off? I forget. Has to do with ACPI or something |
| 02:16.23 | foo | I am using grub |
| 02:16.39 | nvz | APM Poweroff |
| 02:16.56 | nvz | its a kernel driver |
| 02:17.09 | Gnea | erm |
| 02:17.11 | foo | nvz: How do I enable it? |
| 02:17.16 | Guerin | nvz: could be apm or acpi |
| 02:17.26 | Guerin | foo: depends on your chipset. |
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| 02:17.38 | tix64 | hmm. mentioning a boot loader in a question about poweroff is just ... strange. |
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| 02:18.02 | Gnea | it's ACPI, there's a kernel line for that that'll make it shutdown properly... *Tries to remember it* |
| 02:18.17 | nvz | !be apm barbie |
| 02:18.17 | dpkg | Pressing the power button is HARD! |
| 02:18.20 | Guerin | tix64: heh. I can't turn my car's ignition off. Do you think the battery is ok? |
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| 02:18.46 | tix64 | Guerin: yep. sort of. |
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| 02:21.20 | nvz | does bittornado-gui work in sarge? IIRC last time I used this damn thing it wasnt implemented yet.. or maybe that was the jigdo gui :P |
| 02:21.25 | Thanatermesis | OT: Its posible to connect a TFT screen of a "portable computer" in another video conection ? for example vga ? |
| 02:21.29 | dregan_ | hi - is there someone on line who can help out with some questions about debian - install of exim4 and courier - particularly apt-get courier install |
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| 02:21.57 | Gnea | !tell dregan_ about ask |
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| 02:22.31 | Wyzard | Thanatermesis: There might be some laptops which support that, but none that I've ever seen |
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| 02:22.53 | Guerin | nvz: if you want a gui for bittornado, use ABC |
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| 02:23.44 | Guerin | dregan_: courier releases a mta, a pop server, an imap server and some other mail stuff. Which do you mean? Clearly not the mta, since exim4 is one of those. |
| 02:23.45 | nvz | Guerin: main reason I want a gui is for something to oogle progress, and I noticed last time I tried this, it can eat the shit out of your bandwidth.. want a clicky-clicky dodad to adjust the suckage |
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| 02:24.00 | Thanatermesis | not exactly Wyzard ... the conection of the TFT, internal conection to mainboard... I have a portable computer and not works, but the screen works good, I like to use it if is posible... |
| 02:24.15 | Guerin | nvz: abc is just a queueing system and a gui on top of bittornado. |
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| 02:24.38 | dregan_ | My installation of exim4 was done when I installed debian, I am now trying install courier so that I can get my email ( imap ) and I encounterd some errors - I wil post them as a past but I cannot remember how? |
| 02:25.04 | nvz | Guerin: ah. torrents are kind of like trying to blow a wad of paper into a bottle. you are just increasing the air pressure inside and blowing it out instead :P |
| 02:25.04 | Guerin | Thanatermesis: usually you can connect your laptop's video-out to another display, but not the other way |
| 02:25.19 | Guerin | nvz: wtf? |
| 02:25.23 | nvz | heh |
| 02:25.31 | Guerin | nvz: step away from the bong |
| 02:25.41 | Gnea | rofl |
| 02:25.56 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, I don't like to put this TFT portable screen in the trash :/ |
| 02:25.58 | nvz | when I d/l a well seeded torrent it just goes at like 1,000,000,000kb/s and my pc choaks to death |
| 02:26.04 | Wyzard | Thanatermesis: You could probably build an adapter from DVI (or with a bit more work, VGA) to that LCD's interface |
| 02:26.13 | foo | I am trying to install the NVIDIA Linux-x86 driver on Debian Sarge .. but I get this after I agree to the TOS: "No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel from the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? |
| 02:26.14 | Wyzard | Thanatermesis: if you have EE/CompE skills |
| 02:26.18 | foo | Any ideas? |
| 02:26.21 | nvz | I am using old pcs here I cant have data moving that fast |
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| 02:26.32 | Guerin | nvz: that's why you do ratelimiting. I get that, too, at around 3 megabytes/sec |
| 02:26.33 | Wyzard | !tell foo about nvidia |
| 02:26.41 | mwilson | nvz: At which time you avail yourself of the capability of just about every BT client out there and limit the download speed. |
| 02:26.47 | Guerin | actually, that was just on my cel500 - my p4 can do way faster |
| 02:27.12 | foo | nvidia installer |
| 02:27.13 | Guerin | !nvidia one liner |
| 02:27.13 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 02:27.16 | foo | oops.. my bad. |
| 02:27.20 | Guerin | foo: don't use the nvidia installer |
| 02:27.26 | Guerin | foo: do the oneliner above |
| 02:27.28 | foo | I know .. I got it in PM |
| 02:27.31 | foo | oh, ok. |
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| 02:27.46 | dregan_ | My apt-get install problems are at http://channels.debian.net/paste/817 |
| 02:28.09 | Thanatermesis | yes Wyzard ? this is posible ? I don't know the "standard" of this strange conection... any page, link or similar ? |
| 02:28.17 | Thanatermesis | the name of the TFT conection ? |
| 02:28.34 | Wyzard | Thanatermesis: I doubt it's standard |
| 02:28.41 | resiak | dregan_: /topic |
| 02:28.48 | nvz | !find bin/abc$ |
| 02:28.57 | Wyzard | Thanatermesis: It's not meant to be a user-serviceable interface |
| 02:29.34 | Thanatermesis | yes... |
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| 02:31.43 | nvz | oh well dpkg crapped out I think |
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| 02:32.16 | quittt | Rolling On Fat Lesbians ROFL |
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| 02:32.22 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/abc' returned no results. |
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| 02:33.41 | foo | Guerin: Hmm, I got a build error ... so I don't think it worked. I am getting 1220 frames in 5 seconds =244.000 FPS ... on my geforce 4, I don't think that's right |
| 02:33.49 | dregan_ | Please explain to relative irc newbie why I have been told /topic - I have read help but am sorry to say I am still ignorant! |
| 02:33.51 | foo | Guerin: Any ideas? |
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| 02:34.54 | Guerin | foo: output of the build error |
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| 02:35.58 | Guerin | nvz: it's just a bunch of p[ython scripts; if it's not in debian, just untar it and run ~/ABC/abc.py |
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| 02:35.58 | Wyzard | foo: I get around 175 on a GeForce6200 |
| 02:35.59 | SuperNinjaKitty | what is the command to configure sound? |
| 02:35.59 | Wyzard | foo: mostly because I run in 1600x1200 so just updating the screen is slower |
| 02:35.59 | resiak | dregan_: If you type /topic into your IRC client, it should display the channel's topic. The non-us thing is explained in the channel's topic. |
| 02:36.24 | foo | Guerin: http://xhost.ath.cx:81/build.txt - see that? |
| 02:36.33 | resiak | dregan_: You should always read the topic on channels that you use on IRC before asking the channel questions --- chances are that your question is frequently asked and is answered in the topic. |
| 02:36.33 | Guerin | !tell SuperNinjaKitty about sound |
| 02:37.26 | Wyzard | foo: apt-get install gcc-3.3 |
| 02:37.47 | Wyzard | foo: (though that should've been done automatically by module-assistant; I'd consider it a bug) |
| 02:38.29 | Guerin | foo: which kernel are you using? |
| 02:38.35 | foo | Guerin: 2.6.8.2 |
| 02:38.41 | SuperNinjaKitty | guerin nice page but didnt answer my question |
| 02:38.43 | Guerin | foo: that's not a debian kernel |
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| 02:38.47 | Guerin | SuperNinjaKitty: yes it did. |
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| 02:39.05 | SuperNinjaKitty | no it doesnt tell me the command anywhere |
| 02:39.19 | foo | Guerin: 2.6.8-2 ... I installed it via apt-get |
| 02:39.36 | dregan_ | Thank you - what does [NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main”] mean |
| 02:39.51 | foo | I am getting 1250ish frames in 5 seconds = 240ish FPS ... does that sound better? Hmm |
| 02:40.03 | foo | nah, not really |
| 02:40.03 | foo | hmm |
| 02:40.09 | Guerin | foo: ok, -2 is different from .2 - as you were |
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| 02:40.28 | foo | Guerin: My bad |
| 02:40.35 | resiak | dregan_: It means that non-us is no more, and that you should type "/msg dpkg crypto in main" into your irc client, which will send a private message to dpkg, one of the channel's bots. It will respond with more information |
| 02:40.35 | Guerin | SuperNinjaKitty: did you ask dpkg about all the things he told you to ask about? |
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| 02:40.49 | foo | Guerin: I don't see nvidia at the end of /etc/modules .. weird. |
| 02:41.04 | dregan_ | resiak: thank you |
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| 02:41.56 | resiak | dregan_: Not a problem. |
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| 02:43.51 | foo | Guerin: Hmm, update: I loaded the module .. when I run glxgears I get: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". \n glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual - any ideas? |
| 02:43.55 | foo | Wyzard: ^ |
| 02:44.16 | Guerin | foo: do the oneliner again |
| 02:44.30 | foo | hmm.. won't hurt anything, eh? |
| 02:45.04 | Guerin | no |
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| 02:46.09 | foo | Guerin: Do I want to use kernel framebuffer device interface? |
| 02:46.16 | Guerin | foo: absolutely not |
| 02:46.51 | boxerboy29 | in sarge is there a grfical updater like ubuntu or libranet? |
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| 02:47.40 | wobbler | boxerboy29: there is synaptic |
| 02:48.09 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: Any idea on how to deal with m-a giving the error Warning, /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12 seems to contain unconfigurred kernel source! |
| 02:48.34 | boxerboy29 | yeah i know that but that is just a grafical installer im looking for an updater so i dont have to do apt-get update or upgrade |
| 02:48.47 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: If you're using a precompiled kernel, install its corresponding kernel-headers package |
| 02:48.48 | foo | Guerin: Everything goes good .. but I get this at the end of the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg: xserver-xorg postint warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200509301949 ... System startup links for /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg already exist. - -- is this ok ? |
| 02:48.52 | liable | there is no usable config? try copying it over |
| 02:48.54 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: and use that rather than a full source tree |
| 02:49.08 | Guerin | foo: ok. |
| 02:49.17 | TwistedEmotions | wtf |
| 02:49.22 | TwistedEmotions | I was just orooted |
| 02:49.28 | TwistedEmotions | Message from root@Twisted on pts/2 at 19:49 ... |
| 02:49.28 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.28 | TwistedEmotions | --<Fri Sep 30/07:49 PM>-</dev/pts/3>-<~>-- |
| 02:49.32 | Wyzard | boxerboy29: Synaptic can update too |
| 02:49.33 | TwistedEmotions | --<linux@Twisted>-<(=>-- i am on your box... |
| 02:49.33 | TwistedEmotions | EOF |
| 02:49.40 | foo | heh |
| 02:49.42 | foo | who |
| 02:49.43 | TwistedEmotions | help |
| 02:49.45 | boxerboy29 | oh ok i didnt know that |
| 02:49.45 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: pwn3d |
| 02:49.47 | mwilson | boxerboy29: When did synaptic become any sort of "installer"? Exactly what do you think Ubuntu uses, anyway? |
| 02:49.53 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: unplug the ethernet |
| 02:50.02 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: fucker... |
| 02:50.07 | foo | Guerin: Still get the same thing when running glxgears .. is that normal? |
| 02:50.12 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: reinstally! |
| 02:50.19 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: why are you still online? |
| 02:50.29 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: Disconnect your network cable, and if you don't have an audit trail or tripwire hashes or something to identify which files have been tampered with, format and reinstall |
| 02:50.37 | boxerboy29 | i cant remember what it uses but a lil red dot shows up when updates are there and u click it and it updates after selecting |
| 02:50.46 | mwilson | Even if you do, format and reinstall. |
| 02:51.01 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: you've probably been pwn3d for weeks or months without knowing it |
| 02:51.12 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: But before you do so, copy all your logs to another computer for later analysis |
| 02:51.29 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: this is the first time I have booted in linux in like a week |
| 02:51.40 | foo | Guerin: I was just using glxgears to test to see if the driver works .. is there another way to test maybe? |
| 02:51.45 | Wyzard | TwistedEmotions: as well as any non-executable personal files you want to save |
| 02:51.52 | wobbler | boxerboy29: debian is for the nonlazy maybe you need to go back to ubuntu |
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| 02:52.16 | Wyzard | wobbler: There's nothing wrong with wanting a convenient tool |
| 02:52.18 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: also take down and analyse any machines you might have shelled into, and reinstall anymachines you have keys for |
| 02:52.26 | TwistedEmotions | kk forget it |
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| 06:56.42 | nvz | you dont want to be in any of the even middle class neighborhoods after 8 O'clock without a smooth talking local cause we can tell you arent from around here real fast |
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| 06:57.34 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.45 | cahoot | peterS: other produces the bulk qualities at a lower proce |
| 06:57.52 | cahoot | price |
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| 06:58.20 | kdomb | I'm trying to use mp3blaster within gnome-terminal, but F1 is always intercepted by gnome to launch their useless help thing... how can I disable it, please? |
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| 06:58.42 | ColonelKernel | is ther eany way to specify make options for make-kpkg? |
| 06:59.08 | cahoot | meh |
| 06:59.10 | peterS | kdomb: gnome-terminal has setup screens, they let you change keybindings and disable stuff. I forget the details as I stopped using gnome-terminal a long time ago |
| 06:59.10 | usn | good morning all |
| 06:59.20 | nvz | peterS: you would probably get by just singing that song. |
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| 06:59.41 | nvz | peterS: as long as you can pull of a good yinzer accent |
| 06:59.48 | peterS | nvz: I don't know if it has a tune, it's just a cute poem I heard a long time ago. but don't I need a bit more repertoire than that? |
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| 07:00.18 | frumious-0 | nvz: what if I come around to the neighborhood with my stupid horse, what happens? |
| 07:00.37 | liable | meh, i seem to have fucked my usb key with cfdisk, cant mount the damn thing now.. |
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| 07:00.47 | nvz | frumious-0: heh you would attract the police and they are worse than the other criminals |
| 07:00.49 | peterS | liable: does /proc/partitions show any partitions? |
| 07:00.56 | peterS | liable: I mean like sda1 sda2 sda5 etc |
| 07:01.03 | frumious-0 | nvz: same everywhere |
| 07:01.09 | nvz | frumious-0: because they have both sides of the law working for them :P |
| 07:01.22 | kdomb | peterS, aha, thanks.. I had tried setting it in the gnome/panel/preferences/settings section with no effect. |
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| 07:01.27 | Phr0zenKore | hi |
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| 07:01.30 | Phr0zenKore | ^^ |
| 07:01.56 | liable | peterS: yep, fdisk even shows it as the right fs type, but mount pukes on it. |
| 07:02.33 | zeeble | hi. am planning to get a HP notebook. Presario v4103AP.. never tried anything from HP before, anyone got bad issues with HP laptops and linux? |
| 07:02.35 | peterS | liable: you have to mke2fs or mkdosfs or whatever, before you can mount something. creating a partition of a given type does not do this for you |
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| 07:02.57 | peterS | liable: (mkdosfs is in the 'dosfstools' package, if you're wanting vfat here) |
| 07:03.00 | liable | peterS: doh, /me slaps head :) |
| 07:03.03 | nvz | frumious-0: a horse is definatly something you don't see much of around here. a few people have them in the more rural areas, and you might see one at Kennywood or something. |
| 07:03.04 | bartden | hi, how can i view a windows share in linux , my windows box is a member of a PDC (samba), and my linux box is a member of the network |
| 07:03.55 | zeeble | bartden: use something like linneighborhood |
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| 07:04.47 | nvz | bartden: do you use a desktop environment like GNOME or KDE? |
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| 07:05.05 | bartden | nvz i use xfce |
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| 07:05.54 | nvz | zeeble: HP/Compaq as well as most any laptop will have issues with a non-commercial OS. they cut corners anywhere possible in the design trying to compete in the marketplace for the lightest, fastest..blah..blah blah. |
| 07:06.13 | nvz | zeeble: usually the corners cut involve many hardware bugs that are masked by software patches |
| 07:06.25 | zeeble | bartden: hm, does'nt your xfce4 file browser look for network shares? |
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| 07:06.38 | nvz | zeeble: with time, patience, and effort any laptop can handle it |
| 07:06.43 | roby | I just got the iPod Shuffle, i can just plug it in and use regular usb and mass storage modules of kernel to use it right? |
| 07:06.48 | nvz | bartden: yeah xffm should handle it fine |
| 07:06.48 | zeeble | nvz: :| i want something newer, lighter, faster, more storage, than my old dell |
| 07:07.30 | zeeble | nvz: and something that does'nt give too much trouble. i homed in on a model, but cant seem to find any reviews on the www. |
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| 07:08.43 | nvz | zeeble: my last compaq/hp laptop had interesting flaws like the Enter key registered as a keypad enter, which was minute.. you wouldnt really notice it in normal day-to-day use. had nastier bugs like some problem properly assigning IO ports to the IDE controller. so when I would modprobe drivers for sound or USB the controller would go off-line timing out my HD and eating up my filesystem.. |
| 07:09.08 | zeeble | ... scary. |
| 07:09.29 | nvz | zeeble: had a similar issue with ACPI and the Sound device. |
| 07:09.43 | nvz | zeeble: 500 or so kernels later and a few patches I had it mostly working |
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| 07:11.12 | zeeble | looks like my laptop search is going to be extended. |
| 07:11.17 | nvz | zeeble: if you have the ability to research and plan in advance I would look for something well documented. I didnt have a choice I got stuck with a Presario 906US and luckily someone came before me with a 905EA that was very similar and had a very well documented site with thier trials and tribulations. |
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| 07:11.27 | mwilson | Ew, Presario. |
| 07:11.45 | mwilson | NC6000, please... only decent HP/Compaq laptop. |
| 07:12.06 | nvz | zeeble: with time all hardware can be supported.. just most new things especially when they dont release specs, take time to develop and mature. |
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| 07:12.35 | frumious-0 | zeeble: there are a few of good "no name" amd64 laptops. I got one from "hypersonic-pc" ~1/2 year ago that I'm mostly happy with. |
| 07:12.41 | mwilson | Pentium M, Atheros .11g (so it's supported), Bluetooth... can't go wrong. |
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| 07:12.59 | nvz | its just like I said though laptop design as well as any PC design in the competitive market today has corners cut and its usually masked by software which is much cheaper to develop and duplicate. |
| 07:13.37 | crispynix | mwilson: hmm, is that the integrated wireless I've heard about? |
| 07:13.58 | nvz | this was evidant when single DSP chips started being used as sound cards, and often also software modems. |
| 07:14.20 | nvz | they realized its cheaper and easier to develop the software and minimize the hardware |
| 07:15.25 | nvz | and the market at large are stupid windows users that watch tv. |
| 07:15.47 | bartden | can i make linux join a PDC ? |
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| 07:16.15 | nvz | They can be sold a piece of shit as a cell phone, and they would buy it. They would try to use it as a cell phone, they would get shit in their ear and like it. |
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| 07:16.55 | nvz | They would be satisfied with what they bought. because the corporate masters that own their sorry asses told them they would. |
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| 07:17.39 | mwilson | crispynix: Not sure what you mean by "integrated". It's a mini-PCI card... you can either have the Atheros in it, or a Cisco something, or another one I forget what. It's not a Centrino laptop, no. |
| 07:17.50 | frumious-0 | nvz: But, if I didn't buy a DELL, would I still get that cool "Intel Inside" sticker? |
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| 07:17.56 | frankie | zeeble: thinkpad |
| 07:17.57 | syntaxx | what is the command for selecting a new mirror in apt-get? |
| 07:17.58 | nvz | those who would call to seek support, would be served with the EULA and bent over to read it while the support representitive approached them from behind, and began to *service their account* |
| 07:18.08 | mwilson | syntaxx: There isn't one, of course. |
| 07:18.12 | caphuso | syntaxx: apt-setup or editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:18.24 | Miesco | How do I make it so Mozilla Firefox saves .run files instead of opening them in the browser? |
| 07:18.28 | syntaxx | thanks |
| 07:18.29 | mwilson | crispynix: This guy has gigabit ethernet too, which will be nice if I ever upgrade the house ethernet. :) |
| 07:18.38 | mwilson | Miesco: Right-click the link. |
| 07:18.40 | crispynix | mwilson: heh |
| 07:18.51 | caphuso | Miesco: by changing the download action and hoping that this steaming pile of shit listens |
| 07:19.11 | nvz | they would be left crying and bleeding from the asshole and with nothing but a piece of shit in their hand and they would like it, they would be satisfied with what they have purchaced. |
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| 07:19.18 | mwilson | And people wonder why I still use Mozilla... |
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| 07:19.24 | caphuso | i don't |
| 07:19.38 | mwilson | crapfox is just that... crap. |
| 07:19.43 | nvz | Thank you boys and girls, that was Marketing 101, and I am your professor nvz. |
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| 07:19.54 | Miesco | caphuso, wont work, it downloads a .html file |
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| 07:20.19 | frumious-0 | nvz: please tell us what you really feel. |
| 07:20.26 | nvz | heh |
| 07:20.40 | frumious-0 | mwilson: what browser do you prefer? |
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| 07:22.03 | nvz | I need to write a series of books |
| 07:22.31 | frumious-0 | nvz: _The World According to NVZ_ ? |
| 07:22.45 | nvz | unrelated books of course as I don't do transitional material as you may have noticed |
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| 07:22.49 | cahoot | Don Q is already done |
| 07:22.55 | nvz | heh |
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| 07:22.57 | peterS | so like a collection of short stories |
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| 07:23.19 | frumious-0 | or, maybe Zen koans. Very angry Zen koans. |
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| 07:23.40 | caphuso | epic haikus |
| 07:23.45 | kataklysm- | is there an mp3 plugin to support mp3 copying in serpentine? |
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| 07:24.03 | mwilson | frumious-0: links2 |
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| 07:24.22 | nvz | I'm not sure how long that heater has been off, but I am sure its cold. |
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| 07:25.32 | Miesco | What do I do with a .gz.sh file? |
| 07:25.51 | servus | Run it? |
| 07:25.58 | Miesco | How |
| 07:26.08 | marculix | do a file <your .gz.sh> file to check if it's a shell script or what |
| 07:26.20 | servus | And if it is, then: sh foo.gz.sh |
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| 07:26.56 | nvz | I should have went to bed at least 3 hours ago |
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| 07:27.12 | frumious-0 | nvz: me, at least 4. |
| 07:28.46 | nvz | sooner or later the sun is peeking the horizon on the eastern side of the Quaker Valley and its like whats the point in sleeping now? |
| 07:28.59 | nvz | oh boy here comes a train. |
| 07:29.10 | nvz | got a lot of damn trains all through this area |
| 07:29.35 | frumious-0 | airport here. |
| 07:29.43 | nvz | I spent the past few years traveling around and every place I went they got like one train track, and a train may come through once a day or something. |
| 07:30.06 | nvz | we got 4 tracks and get over 35 trains a day. |
| 07:30.18 | kataklysm- | how come Serpentine Audio CD Creator says my mp3s arent supported format?? the serpentine website says that it supports mp3 files... is there a patch for this? |
| 07:30.46 | nvz | we got airports and air force bases too the moon air force base is right over the river. |
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| 07:31.32 | frumious-0 | mwilson: thanks. I usually use w3m for text mode but links2 looks interesting. |
| 07:31.46 | servus | Links2 has JavaScript support. |
| 07:31.59 | sartan | hey folks.. i came here earlier with some umask issues.. apparently i tracked it down to an undocumented/unfiled gnome bug. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317664 |
| 07:32.21 | nvz | kataklysm-: probably just need an mp3 encoder which is most likely the issue. mp3 doesnt have a debian compatible lisc |
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| 07:32.54 | nvz | kataklysm-: apps like grip, audacity..etc prefer OGG or something more free in debian |
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| 07:33.27 | kataklysm- | nvz: most all my apps work fine with mp3 though, serpentine however doesnt |
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| 07:33.55 | nvz | kataklysm-: I dont know wtf serpintine is.. but playing an mp3 and making one is 3 different things. |
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| 07:34.00 | warhead | hi to all |
| 07:34.03 | warhead | :-) |
| 07:34.14 | nvz | !info serpentine |
| 07:34.25 | cheal | my ISP's spam filter is worth a copy of Win XP. I put the same message about 10 times in spam, and the new copies still get in inbox |
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| 07:34.28 | kataklysm- | nvz: serpentine is like k3b/gnomebaker |
| 07:34.36 | nvz | kataklysm-: doesnt seem like that package exists in debian |
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| 07:35.08 | kataklysm- | nvz: its a non-free |
| 07:35.14 | nvz | !find bin/serpentine |
| 07:35.25 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/serpentine' returned no results. |
| 07:35.53 | nvz | kataklysm-: is it even in debian's non-free or is it 3rd party non-free? |
| 07:36.48 | nvz | kataklysm-: I am not understanding why you are asking generally non-debian-specific questions about non-debian software here. |
| 07:37.10 | nvz | must be trying to be more off-topic than me or something. |
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| 07:37.33 | kataklysm- | nvz: im just asking a question because i figured someone here could answer |
| 07:37.34 | nvz | all I can say, is don't hold your breath waiting for that one to happen :P |
| 07:37.59 | kataklysm- | im not trying to be pointed to another room that is of no help, because by far #debian is the best chan in here and my dist of choice at that |
| 07:38.15 | kataklysm- | i didnt think it was against the rules to just ask for help on a simple issure |
| 07:38.23 | kataklysm- | issue* |
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| 07:38.35 | nvz | kataklysm-: try ask a question that we know about then. I still dont know where to find this serpentine or what your real problem is |
| 07:38.50 | nvz | I got an unknown issue I can not reproduce at this point |
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| 07:39.28 | nvz | debian isnt a good channel, just has some good people that hang out here. and occationally get tired of catering to people who think we are some kind of wizards |
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| 07:39.56 | nvz | we just have a tightly knit community and a damn good OS.. makes us seem like wizards |
| 07:39.59 | Shadda | err...damn, I was about to ask for some courage |
| 07:40.09 | frumious-0 | (more playing....) links2 is way cool. Debian always has surprises up its sleeves! |
| 07:40.24 | nvz | another satisfied customer :P |
| 07:40.58 | kataklysm- | well dont brag bout that |
| 07:40.59 | nvz | frumious-0: oh wait, you have to send money before you can be a satisfied customer |
| 07:41.08 | nvz | I am not bragging I am just kidding |
| 07:41.15 | kataklysm- | debian is good all around and debian is the source of all info on any other linux distro if ya ask me |
| 07:41.16 | kataklysm- | heh |
| 07:41.26 | nvz | waiting for you to enlighten me on wtf you expect me to do |
| 07:41.33 | kataklysm- | i dunno really man |
| 07:41.36 | kataklysm- | im really high |
| 07:41.37 | kataklysm- | lol |
| 07:41.39 | nvz | heh |
| 07:41.51 | kataklysm- | ive done like 25 lortabs and about 12 blue xanax |
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| 07:41.53 | frumious-0 | nvz: Hey! I already paid for my Debian 0.93r6 gold CD, what do you want, blood? |
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| 07:42.06 | kataklysm- | and just tryin to get my damn serpentine to make mp3s compatable to burn |
| 07:42.06 | kataklysm- | lol |
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| 07:42.25 | nvz | frumious-0: hmm. kataklysm- might need some, cause I dont think he can pass a drug test. |
| 07:42.56 | nvz | kataklysm-: so you want to burn mp3s as CD Digital Audio ? |
| 07:43.06 | frumious-0 | Of course, Perens, probably pocketed the profits from that deal (jk). |
| 07:43.06 | nvz | not rip CD Digital Audio to mp3 |
| 07:43.55 | caphuso | this apparently non-free serpentine comes with a LICENSE file that starts with "GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE" |
| 07:44.11 | nvz | caphuso: hmm? |
| 07:44.34 | caphuso | nvz: i'm browsing it's svn repository |
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| 07:45.47 | kataklysm- | nvz: i just want serpentine to work |
| 07:45.56 | kataklysm- | i have k3b/ gnome baker, and something else |
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| 07:46.02 | kataklysm- | but i just want serpentine to be 100% |
| 07:46.06 | kataklysm- | i hate broken stuff ya know |
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| 07:46.11 | nvz | kataklysm-: mp3s have to be decoded into a compatible wav format to be read by a CDDA player if this is what you are trying to do. K3b just works (tm) for me. even easier than that is mp3burn, which you cam feed an m3u playlist of mp3s and it will burn it directly to Audio CD |
| 07:46.15 | kataklysm- | but i put lame on here, that is supposedly suppose to do the trick |
| 07:46.29 | nvz | kataklysm-: lame is for encoding mp3 |
| 07:46.36 | kataklysm- | nvz: thats not hte point of it |
| 07:46.37 | kataklysm- | heh |
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| 07:46.41 | kataklysm- | its the point of it needing to do it |
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| 07:46.50 | kataklysm- | it supports ogg, wma, etc |
| 07:47.02 | nvz | I still dont know what you are trying to do. But I do know it has absolutly nothing to do with the crime rate in Da Burgh |
| 07:47.04 | kataklysm- | mp3 just isnt a supported codec, but someone told me lame would do the trick, im fixing to try |
| 07:47.19 | kataklysm- | yea ith as a lot to do with crime rate wherevre |
| 07:47.27 | nvz | :P |
| 07:47.31 | kataklysm- | im gonna go off and kill the developers that live there |
| 07:47.32 | kataklysm- | hahaha |
| 07:47.54 | frumious-0 | I smell garlic. |
| 07:48.25 | nvz | do you smell Mancini's too? |
| 07:48.42 | nvz | garlic is lonely without Mancini's fresh baked italian bread |
| 07:48.50 | nvz | and a nice big plate of pasta |
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| 07:49.41 | frumious-0 | Also, I have too many damn crickets in my basement, err, I mean my network operation center. |
| 07:50.04 | nvz | though what would you know about fresh Mancini's you're too far from Stowe Rox to ever taste a hot slice of Mancini's Italian bread. |
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| 07:50.49 | frumious-0 | sadly, I do not recognize any of those proper nouns. I am out in the Lawn Guy Land. |
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| 07:53.46 | subgv_ | Is there a debian way of install ATI Radeon 9600? |
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| 07:53.57 | nvz | Mancini's Bakery McKees Rox, PA one of the great wonders of the Pittsburgh Regional history |
| 07:54.39 | nvz | !ati |
| 07:54.40 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
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| 07:54.42 | nvz | !ati drivers |
| 07:54.42 | dpkg | If you wish to use ATI's closed-source binary fglrx driver, then follow the instructions on http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html - do NOT try to convert the drivers from ATI's website yourself with Alien. These drivers support Radeon 8500 or higher cards. |
| 07:56.06 | lordknow1 | shes so awesome |
| 07:56.28 | nvz | dpkg, gender? |
| 07:56.28 | dpkg | I'm pregnant |
| 07:56.37 | lordknow1 | yup |
| 07:56.42 | lordknow1 | dpkg is hot |
| 07:56.51 | lordknow1 | i met her at the last defcon |
| 07:57.01 | nvz | dpkg, you're sexy |
| 07:57.02 | dpkg | Awww yeah. |
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| 07:57.06 | lordknow1 | haha |
| 07:57.14 | mud | i have debian installed on one big partition, can i shrink it with parted and install windows 2000 without killing grub? |
| 07:57.20 | frumious-0 | dpkg, you're easy |
| 07:57.27 | lordknow1 | you must KILL grub |
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| 07:57.28 | lordknow1 | with a knife |
| 07:57.33 | lordknow1 | in one on one battle |
| 07:57.33 | nvz | !yinzersmite frumious-0 |
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| 07:59.10 | mud | i want to dual boot |
| 07:59.13 | lordknow1 | !dpkg sex |
| 07:59.14 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 07:59.14 | billions_ | dpkg: are these boys treatin you right honey |
| 07:59.29 | nvz | mud: you got more problems than you think |
| 07:59.48 | nvz | dpkg, do billions_ |
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| 07:59.56 | billions_ | YES |
| 08:00.00 | lordknow1 | thats my wooman |
| 08:00.00 | lordknow1 | ! |
| 08:00.00 | tam99 | no :) |
| 08:00.02 | mud | nvz: enlighten me |
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| 08:00.18 | lordknow1 | !dpkg debian |
| 08:00.19 | dpkg | [debian] http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 08:01.19 | nvz | mud: well windows especially older versions won't generally install when linux is present. they think you may be using an old DOS compressed volume or something and will error out in the early stage 1 install. best to install windows first, then linux. |
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| 08:01.38 | lordknow1 | mmhmm |
| 08:01.40 | billions_ | indeed nvz |
| 08:01.49 | billions_ | and spank dpkg while you're at it |
| 08:01.49 | lordknow1 | installing grub can be a pain anyways |
| 08:01.51 | mud | nvz: thanks much |
| 08:01.55 | lordknow1 | brb |
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| 08:02.05 | nvz | mud: also if you are using ext3 its probably not going to be safe to resize either, and it will definatly wipe out your grub even if you succeed otherwise |
| 08:02.26 | mud | nvz: i am using ext3 |
| 08:02.30 | nvz | is it just me, or did anyone else find that strange. |
| 08:02.32 | unique311 | how can i remove kde completely from my system...I tried apt-get remove --purge kde, it just removed kde, i still see kde packages still around. |
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| 08:03.00 | frumious-0 | unique311: It's like kudzu. Once there, it will not leave. |
| 08:03.06 | unique311 | man |
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| 08:03.12 | nvz | lordknow1: you are not in any way affiliated with that billions_ character are you? |
| 08:03.19 | lordknow1 | ... |
| 08:03.20 | unique311 | so a reinstallation is the only way out. |
| 08:03.23 | lordknow1 | maybe |
| 08:03.24 | nvz | dpkg, remove kde |
| 08:03.24 | dpkg | i guess remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 08:03.35 | lordknow1 | ew |
| 08:03.36 | lordknow1 | kde |
| 08:03.42 | lordknow1 | i just got ird of that |
| 08:03.48 | nvz | dpkg is the package manager it knows how to remove packages :) |
| 08:03.55 | nvz | oops |
| 08:04.02 | unique311 | wrong command. |
| 08:04.08 | nvz | its a good thing I didnt confuse dpkg |
| 08:04.21 | lordknow1 | yeah billions is a friend of mine |
| 08:04.25 | unique311 | the comma belongs? |
| 08:04.28 | lordknow1 | we just installed debian on our thinkpads |
| 08:04.42 | lordknow1 | its running great |
| 08:04.47 | lordknow1 | got blackbox going |
| 08:05.00 | lordknow1 | although im think i could get a better color depth |
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| 08:05.40 | unique311 | i installed xfce4, but kde is not being nice, on being removed |
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| 08:06.17 | nvz | lordknow1: I just found it curious you both have the same ident response, similar typing charactaristics, on the same ISP and you both left at the same time.. though you talked as if you were different people and even use different clients |
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| 08:07.23 | lordknow1 | yeah |
| 08:07.27 | lordknow1 | we are on the phone right now |
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| 08:08.03 | frumious-0 | lordknow1: I think nvz is asking you to hit the enter key more frequently. |
| 08:08.11 | lordknow1 | nvz good opservations though |
| 08:08.21 | lordknow1 | hehe sorry ;) |
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| 08:08.55 | nvz | I even very often make unconcious observations |
| 08:09.27 | nvz | I used to think I was fuckin psychic or something, and I dont believe in that shit. I come to find out I am more observant than I am conciously aware of most of the time |
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| 08:09.32 | da_bon_bon | hi all |
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| 08:09.36 | da_bon_bon | i just installed debian |
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| 08:09.39 | da_bon_bon | i have some confusions |
| 08:09.47 | nvz | da_bon_bon: yeah I can see that. |
| 08:09.57 | lordknow1 | nvz yeah i find the same thing true with myself |
| 08:10.03 | nvz | da_bon_bon: let me help you, the enter key is not used for punctuation in debian. |
| 08:10.10 | da_bon_bon | nvz: can you ?! |
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| 08:10.18 | frumious-0 | I can! |
| 08:10.19 | da_bon_bon | nvz: i hope you are not trying to be funny. |
| 08:10.26 | da_bon_bon | why cant i install irssi ? |
| 08:10.27 | nvz | there you go, punctuation is working. Now lest try complete sentances. |
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| 08:10.29 | caphuso | that's one fine piece of sarcasm going to waste |
| 08:10.38 | zeeble | da_bon_bon: apt-cache search irssi |
| 08:10.43 | nvz | da_bon_bon: because you didnt type apt-get install irssi-text? |
| 08:10.47 | lordknow1 | hehe |
| 08:10.54 | da_bon_bon | zeeble package irssi has no install candidate |
| 08:10.57 | nvz | caphuso: heh |
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| 08:11.22 | da_bon_bon | hell! how do i change channel windows in bitchx ? |
| 08:11.33 | da_bon_bon | and how do i get dhcpcd ? |
| 08:11.35 | lordknow1 | cntrl X |
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| 08:11.42 | lordknow1 | da_bon_bon cntrl X |
| 08:11.45 | zeeble | heh. |
| 08:11.46 | nvz | why would you want dhcpcd? |
| 08:11.59 | nvz | do we even have dhcpcd... |
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| 08:12.24 | da_bon_bon | nvz: i am accustomed to it. i dont like dhclient |
| 08:12.25 | nvz | !find sbin/dhcpcd$ |
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| 08:12.34 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'sbin/dhcpcd' (1): (/sbin/dhcpcd) in net/dhcpcd. |
| 08:12.40 | nvz | imagine that |
| 08:12.54 | nvz | da_bon_bon: apt-get install dhcpcd |
| 08:13.19 | da_bon_bon | thanks nvz |
| 08:13.22 | unique311 | seems i'm going to have to reinstall debian. |
| 08:13.23 | zeeble | and how can you not get irssi? |
| 08:13.35 | da_bon_bon | zeeble sorry didnt know about irssi text and scripts |
| 08:13.36 | unique311 | at least it doesn't take the amount of time gentoo does. |
| 08:13.37 | nvz | I was accustomed to pump after using deadhat and mandike but didnt make it a good fucking idea to use the non-standard piece of garbage when I finally found debian |
| 08:13.38 | da_bon_bon | brb from irssi |
| 08:13.45 | zeeble | da_bon_bon: ah ok,. good luck |
| 08:13.48 | dregan__ | I have been trying to get exim4 working and use ' exim4 -bt dannyr@realtek.net.au and get an error R: dnslookup for dannyr@realtek.net.au - dannyr@realtek.net.au is undeliverable: all relaqvant MX records poing to non-existent hosts ::: If I dig www.realtek.net.au the MX records seems to be there - I am trying from a pc on a Local LAN. |
| 08:13.49 | da_bon_bon | hehe |
| 08:13.50 | da_bon_bon | brb |
| 08:14.18 | dregan__ | poing=going |
| 08:14.46 | Zugschlus | dregan__: www.realtek.net.au does not have an MX record |
| 08:14.49 | nvz | I knew the debian developers wanted to have certain things and I didnt know enough to think my preference was any better.. so I fell in line |
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| 08:15.11 | bob2 | dregan__: you need to "dig realtek.net.au mx", which has a MX record |
| 08:15.12 | da_bon_bon | back |
| 08:15.16 | bob2 | dregan__: how long ago did you add it? |
| 08:15.41 | dregan__ | bob2 - about 3 months ago! |
| 08:15.44 | nvz | vi and nano that come with debian base however I know enough to know that they both suck my ass in their spare time, and installed an editor I can tolerate |
| 08:15.55 | sandman_ | What's an easy tool to use for placing my system in standby mode? |
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| 08:16.09 | frumious-0 | pico! |
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| 08:16.21 | da_bon_bon | sandman_: www.suspend2.net ? |
| 08:16.29 | nvz | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 17 12:35 /usr/bin/pico -> /bin/nano |
| 08:16.34 | Azardix | hello |
| 08:16.43 | dregan__ | When I dig realtek.net.au mx locally I get a MX record |
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| 08:16.54 | bob2 | dregan__: 202.164.198.116 is not a valid mailserver, tho |
| 08:16.59 | bob2 | dregan__: which is another big issue |
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| 08:17.24 | dregan__ | hmmm ... not sure what to do now |
| 08:17.26 | da_bon_bon | why cant i use page up and page down to scroll through man pages ? |
| 08:17.27 | lordknow1 | whats a good fast non intensive web browser thats not lynx? |
| 08:17.47 | bob2 | lordknow1: w3m, links, dill if you have X |
| 08:17.55 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: because you didn't install "less" |
| 08:18.12 | nvz | oh well #debian is comming back to life.. I guess I will take a rest and let it resume its natural course |
| 08:18.12 | da_bon_bon | bob2: ok.. thanks. |
| 08:18.16 | zeeble | does'nt less install with the base? |
| 08:18.28 | bob2 | dregan__: mail.realtek.net.au isn't reachable at all, afaict |
| 08:18.33 | bob2 | nvz: adios |
| 08:18.34 | lordknow1 | bob2: thanx alot |
| 08:18.42 | frumious-0 | lordknow1: wget |
| 08:18.47 | lordknow1 | hehe |
| 08:18.50 | lordknow1 | wget does rock |
| 08:19.08 | nvz | bob2: you missed my lecture on Marketing shit. :P |
| 08:19.11 | da_bon_bon | why was kde upgraded in sarge ? isnt sarge frozen ? |
| 08:19.30 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: security update, presumably |
| 08:19.34 | deadcat | security fix |
| 08:19.42 | da_bon_bon | bob2: all of kde is updated .. ok.. |
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| 08:20.01 | deadcat | da_bon_bon: did you edit sources.list recently? |
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| 08:20.22 | da_bon_bon | deadcat: no.. i just installed debian 5 minutes back |
| 08:20.27 | abel | hi all, do u know if there is a french debian channel and what is his name ? |
| 08:20.28 | deadcat | oh |
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| 08:20.30 | mustafa | hey, does anybody know why I have a Permission Denied message when I try /etc/fstab although I am logged in as root? |
| 08:20.34 | nvz | Bonne Journ?e Debians |
| 08:20.38 | da_bon_bon | abel: #debian-fr ? |
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| 08:21.36 | bob2 | mustafa: what does "touch /etc/fstab" say? |
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| 08:21.55 | pacman | I get the feeling that mustafa is trying to _execute_ /etc/fstab. |
| 08:22.10 | pacman | because I've seen people do dumb stuff like that, and then be surprised when it doesn't work. |
| 08:22.23 | sparr_ | there a command, starting with x, to set the tone and length of the system bell. can anyone help me out? |
| 08:22.30 | sandman_ | da_bon_bon: So should I use apt-get install hibernate? |
| 08:22.30 | caphuso | sparr_: xset |
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| 08:22.44 | bob2 | sparr_: xset does it in X |
| 08:22.44 | sparr_ | caphuso: you rock |
| 08:22.48 | bob2 | sparr_: setterm in the terminal |
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| 08:23.06 | mustafa | bob2: nothing, no error even |
| 08:23.15 | da_bon_bon | sandman_: i dont know. never used hibernate on debian. on other linux-es, yes i have used it |
| 08:23.17 | mwilson | sparr_: *STILL*!? |
| 08:23.20 | bob2 | mustafa: then it's fine, the problem is whatever you're trying to do |
| 08:23.27 | bob2 | mustafa: what is the exact command you ran? |
| 08:23.39 | marculix | mustafa: /etc/fstab is not a binary and not a shell script |
| 08:23.58 | mustafa | i wanna mount my NTFS harddisk and i am tolded to do it by fstab. what is the way |
| 08:24.05 | kataklysm- | how can i make a .deb package from a tar.gz file so i can install the tar source properly in debian? |
| 08:24.16 | caphuso | kataklysm-: /msg dpkg mg |
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| 08:24.24 | bob2 | mustafa: by editing it however you normally edit config files |
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| 08:24.33 | da_bon_bon | i uncommeneted bell-style line in inputrc, still it beeps on tab completion .. any idea why ? |
| 08:24.34 | Flendor | mustafa - If you want, I can give Turkish help |
| 08:24.47 | caphuso | da_bon_bon: set bell-style to none |
| 08:24.50 | mustafa | Flendor: its better thanks :) |
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| 08:24.54 | da_bon_bon | caphuso: i did that |
| 08:25.05 | caphuso | da_bon_bon: no, you uncommented the bell-style line |
| 08:25.11 | mwilson | da_bon_bon: And restarted the shell? You did that? |
| 08:25.12 | frumious-0 | pacman: don't be so rude, haven't you read the new world order: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/25/104320/439 |
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| 08:25.29 | da_bon_bon | mwilson: yes. restarted the computer. |
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| 08:25.37 | mustafa | Flendor: I think i should register first to send priate messages |
| 08:25.45 | caphuso | mwilson: hint: ctrl-x ctrl-r |
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| 08:25.53 | lordknow1 | how do you send files via bitchx? |
| 08:25.58 | pacman | I don't like being spoken to in URLs. I rarely read them. |
| 08:25.58 | Flendor | Oh. :/ You can receive mine though, right? |
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| 08:26.10 | bob2 | lordknow1: /help dcc, I'd think |
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| 08:26.16 | lordknow1 | ahhh dcc |
| 08:26.18 | lordknow1 | thanx a bunch |
| 08:26.19 | mwilson | da_bon_bon: You did something silly like restart the computer because...? |
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| 08:26.25 | frumious-0 | pacman: sorry, just a little sarcasm |
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| 08:26.59 | da_bon_bon | mwilson: i had to restart for other reasons |
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| 08:28.45 | pacman | let me know if I called it correctly though |
| 08:28.54 | mwilson | I so need to go see Serenity again. |
| 08:29.02 | bob2 | cafuego: kataklysm- asked in both channels |
| 08:29.11 | cafuego_ | mwilson: Was it good? (/me is seeing it in teh morning) |
| 08:29.23 | da_bon_bon | whats the best way to get rid of the terminal beep ? |
| 08:29.24 | bob2 | hm, I was going to go see it |
| 08:29.31 | bob2 | since everyone oes on about firefly |
| 08:29.36 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: xset -b, in X |
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| 08:29.46 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: setterm -beeplength0, or so, in shell |
| 08:29.54 | mwilson | cafuego_: Yes, I think it's very good. Does a good job of introducing things too, if you're not familiar with the series, and not too much that people who ARE, would get bored. |
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| 08:30.08 | cafuego_ | firefly rocks; i HARDY HAR HAR-ed it when it was showing in the us |
| 08:30.26 | mwilson | You learn how Simon got River out almost immediately. |
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| 08:30.45 | pacman | I don't understand people who want to turn off the terminal bell. How do you live without it? So many programs use it as an essential part of their communication with the user! |
| 08:31.01 | cafuego_ | mwilson: drugs! |
| 08:31.02 | mwilson | pacman: Visual bell. Been using it for years. |
| 08:31.16 | da_bon_bon | bob2: thanks again. |
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| 08:31.17 | pacman | vi uses a bell, and ONLY a bell, to signal dozens of different errors, some of which are completely indistiguishable from "it's just thinking about it for a long time" |
| 08:31.17 | bob2 | pacman: I turn it off so zsh doesn't deafen me when I bounce on my tab completion |
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| 08:31.20 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: np |
| 08:31.26 | mwilson | Lots of good dialog. |
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| 08:31.42 | magick211 | Hello i have a question |
| 08:31.44 | cafuego_ | bob2: foxtel is showing firefly atm, actually. |
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| 08:31.56 | mwilson | Couple of "woah, can they say that in a PG-13 film?" moments, too. |
| 08:32.01 | pacman | vbell can't summon my attention to tty2 when I'm working on tty6, or when I'm paying more attention to the TV than the monitor... |
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| 08:32.10 | cafuego_ | it's 'M" here |
| 08:32.30 | magick211 | What is linux? I heard is some sort of operating system that does things like steal peoples music with some sort of program called mp3. Is that true |
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| 08:32.35 | bob2 | cafuego_: heh, wonder if I can run a cable from my neighbours dish to here |
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| 08:32.59 | bitumen | magic211: your`e compleatly right... |
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| 08:33.12 | mwilson | You find out where the Reavers came from, too. |
| 08:33.22 | da_bon_bon | whoa! sarge has no mplayer with gui ? |
| 08:33.28 | pacman | I'd rather have a terminal that can't display the letter "m" than one that can't sound an audible bell... |
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| 08:33.34 | mwilson | Sarge has no mplayer *at all*. |
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| 08:33.50 | mwilson | Neither does Etch, neither does Sid. |
| 08:33.50 | da_bon_bon | mwilson: oh.. then it must the debian unofficial repo. |
| 08:33.54 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: mplayer is not in any version of Debian |
| 08:33.58 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 08:33.59 | da_bon_bon | bob2: why so ? |
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| 08:34.06 | da_bon_bon | oh |
| 08:34.06 | da_bon_bon | ok |
| 08:34.09 | mwilson | There are no "Debian unofficial repos". |
| 08:34.13 | bob2 | da_bon_bon: /msg dpkg mplayer legal oddyssey |
| 08:34.14 | bob2 | or so |
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| 08:35.11 | cafuego_ | bob2: If they're nice they might tape it.. |
| 08:36.01 | magick211 | kla;lkjaskj;lsdjkl;sdjl;sjkdfjksdfdfksdafkjsadf;lkdjf;ldskjfsl;akdfjsdlk;fjds |
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| 08:36.51 | bob2 | awesome |
| 08:36.57 | cafuego_ | whoopsy |
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| 08:39.36 | soar | iptables rules restore to the orginal at reboot. |
| 08:39.48 | pacman | so what's the equivalent of "cp foo.au /dev/audio" if you're using ALSA? |
| 08:40.05 | soar | is it possible to save my iptables rules permentally |
| 08:40.14 | bob2 | soar: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian |
| 08:40.24 | hackeron_ | hey, how do I compile a kernel for a pentium4 32bit from an athlon64? - I can only seem to be able to choose 64bit architecture in menuconfig. |
| 08:40.27 | bob2 | pacman: sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss ; cat foo.au > /dev/audio |
| 08:40.29 | bitumen | soar: scripting? |
| 08:40.39 | bob2 | hackeron_: make ARCH=i386 menuconfig |
| 08:40.47 | magick211 | I heard apt-get cannot compare to portage |
| 08:40.52 | hackeron_ | bob2: ah, thanks. |
| 08:40.53 | pacman | bob2, I mean without cheating :) |
| 08:40.59 | bob2 | magick211: seriously, this is pathetic |
| 08:41.11 | pacman | which one of the /dev/snd/* files is the speaker output? |
| 08:41.14 | liable | magick211: bye bye. |
| 08:41.22 | bob2 | pacman: none, really |
| 08:41.40 | bob2 | pacman: aiui /dev/snd/pcm* requires more work than just dumping a waveform into it |
| 08:42.06 | pacman | mandatory ioctls? |
| 08:42.26 | bob2 | I dunno, I've never really looked into it |
| 08:42.57 | pacman | so ALSA still isn't up to the simplest task, without its OSS emulation |
| 08:43.45 | bob2 | if you say so |
| 08:44.06 | pacman | well, cat foo.au>/dev/audio is the basic sound player... |
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| 08:44.23 | pacman | anyway, this brings me to the main question: why does /dev/dsp say "Device busy"? Wouldn't it be nicer to allow me to play multiple simultaneous sound streams? |
| 08:44.34 | bob2 | what a great idea |
| 08:44.40 | bob2 | amazing no one ever thought of that |
| 08:44.40 | da_bon_bon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.23 | pacman | all this great modern ALSA stuff and new hardware and I still have the same 1-channel capability that sound cards had 12 years ago? |
| 08:45.43 | bob2 | if you say so |
| 08:45.48 | bob2 | (hint: google: dmix) |
| 08:46.06 | magick211 | use arts sound server |
| 08:46.17 | bob2 | arts is a pretty shitty solution |
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| 08:46.32 | bob2 | the Real Fix is to use dmix with libasound; dmix is the default with recent versions, no less |
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| 08:46.50 | pacman | magick211, that's as useless as the other stuff you've been saying :) |
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| 08:47.12 | magick211 | Ive been a ass tonight i know :) im sorry |
| 08:47.26 | Flendor | Does Creative supply official Linux drivers? |
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| 08:47.59 | bob2 | Flendor: not anymore |
| 08:48.07 | liable | more official than the official kernel ones? :P |
| 08:48.08 | da_bon_bon | are there any unofficial sources for latest version of kde ? |
| 08:48.14 | Flendor | Oh. :/ |
| 08:48.18 | bob2 | Flendor: long ago they paid someone to write Free sblive drivers, and that code is now in the kernel itself |
| 08:48.23 | bob2 | Flendor: so just use the normal kernel ones |
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| 08:48.38 | pacman | I feel pretty strongly that the inability to handle multiple outputs is a bug, and I'd like to know the cause and fix it rather than kludge around it with daemons that emulate the missing features |
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| 08:48.46 | Flendor | bob - I'm doing so. I just wanted to know if there are non-free drivers out therre |
| 08:48.53 | bob2 | Flendor: not that I know of |
| 08:49.09 | bob2 | pacman: the cause is that you haven't written a mixer and got it accepted into the kernel |
| 08:49.14 | Flendor | OK, thank you. |
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| 08:49.17 | liable | Flendor: you *want* to defile your debian? |
| 08:49.39 | magick211 | pacman: Im pretty new with linux but i have not been able to have multiple sounds go trough the card unless im using som sort of sound daemon |
| 08:49.45 | Flendor | liable - Sooner or later I will have to install NVidia drivers.. |
| 08:49.54 | magick211 | not saying there isnt a way but ive tried all sorts of things |
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| 08:50.24 | pacman | I know I'm running into a big obstacle here, but I don't know what it is |
| 08:50.26 | Flendor | liable - I don't want to use propriatery (duh, sp?) drivers when there are free ones out there |
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| 08:50.48 | magick211 | pacman: Im running a 2.6 kernel now with alsa built into it |
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| 08:50.59 | magick211 | ive also tried loading alsa as a module |
| 08:51.01 | Flendor | But I feel the Live drivers in the kernel cannot give full potential of my sound card. |
| 08:51.12 | bob2 | pacman: because no one has written the code to do so, and got it accepted into the kernel |
| 08:51.29 | bob2 | pacman: it seems extremely unlikely linus would accept something so complicated into the kernle, when it's already available in userspace |
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| 08:51.54 | pacman | we have multiple terminals on the console, we can even run multiple X servers, we can open thousands of file descriptors referring to regular files on disk simultaenously, but only ONE sound channel? I don't get it |
| 08:51.54 | drac | Is there a way to attach x11 applications to "screen", and with "screen" I mean somekind of temporary X server that would take the application, and give it back to actual X server when requested..? ;) |
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| 08:52.08 | caphuso | pacman: then buy hardware that doesn't suck |
| 08:52.12 | bob2 | drac: xmove |
| 08:52.28 | bob2 | pacman: note that emu10k1-based cards do it in hardware, so it Just Works, too |
| 08:52.30 | drac | bob2: great! |
| 08:52.36 | caphuso | hell, even my cheap ass on board via crap chip has four outputs |
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| 08:54.51 | spear | hi there ! |
| 08:55.15 | spear | did anybody aver test zsplit ??? |
| 08:55.18 | spear | ever |
| 08:55.19 | unique311 | nvz: just got back alot of space by removing kde complete via synaptic |
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| 08:56.45 | pacman | well, I guess this is another case where I can't find anyone to go along with me |
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| 08:56.48 | [sr] | hi there |
| 08:56.55 | spear | hi ! |
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| 08:57.54 | raz0 | pacman, I'm with you. :) |
| 08:58.00 | grexk | Did anyone experience Xfree86 freezing upon boot up? |
| 08:58.09 | Flendor | pacman - I agree that sound server in Linux should be better - However, I cannot code a better one, so I mostly keep silent about it. |
| 08:58.27 | bob2 | getting rid of the sound server is the key |
| 08:58.31 | bob2 | which is what dmix does |
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| 08:58.48 | spear | who ever used, with success, symantec ghost, acronys Drive image to successfully restore a disk image without having to handle the bootloader once restored ? |
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| 08:59.22 | Flendor | bob2 - Do you know if Debian uses dmix by default? |
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| 08:59.31 | pacman | I just think the kernel should handle the multiplexing of sounds to a speaker port, the same way it handles the multiplexing of ttys on the console, /dev/tty{1..63} don't require hardware support. |
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| 08:59.44 | bob2 | Flendor: it should on sid |
| 08:59.51 | bob2 | pacman: you're welcome to submti a patch |
| 09:00.03 | bob2 | pacman: imagine how complicated mixing arbitrary sound streams in the kernel will be, tho |
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| 09:00.48 | Spritee | Hi, a program (btdownloadheadless) has crashed on me, but I can't seem to find a pid for it. Any suggestions how I might be able to kill it? |
| 09:01.01 | liable | where is this magical boot.img.gz, the installer talks about for making a bootable usb stick? |
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| 09:01.19 | bob2 | Spritee: ps aux | grep bt |
| 09:01.21 | bob2 | produces nothing? |
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| 09:02.10 | liable | nm |
| 09:02.17 | Spritee | Got it thanks bob2 |
| 09:02.24 | Spritee | Now to find out what ps, aux, and grep mean :) |
| 09:02.29 | spear | bye ! |
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| 09:03.25 | Flendor | ps lists the processes, aux makes it lists all processes by all users; and grep filters to "bt" |
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| 09:05.43 | sandman | I'd like to scale my CPU frequency down. I've a celeron 1.6GHz, pentium4 core |
| 09:06.00 | bob2 | does that really support scaling? |
| 09:06.02 | sandman | What to do? Just install cpudyn? |
| 09:06.06 | bob2 | my 2.8ghz p4 does not appear to |
| 09:06.08 | sandman | bob2: Yes: I can scale it from windows |
| 09:06.09 | bitumen | sadman, i have done the same thing... |
| 09:06.25 | sandman | bitumen: How did you do it? |
| 09:06.26 | bitumen | sandman, just enable p4 frequency scaling in your kernel |
| 09:06.48 | bitumen | and then play with /proc or /sys |
| 09:06.55 | sandman | You mean p4 clock modulation? |
| 09:07.01 | bitumen | exactly |
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| 09:07.29 | bob2 | default debian kernels should support it |
| 09:07.46 | bitumen | I have a stupid desktop celeron in my notebook, linux is the only os wich can scale down the freq... |
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| 09:08.12 | Flendor | Hmm, I wonder if Linux can break the multiplier lock on my Barton 2600+ ;) |
| 09:08.23 | Flendor | (I know it won't) |
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| 09:09.22 | Flendor | Guerin - Heheh.. Mine's not a good overclocker, so I would have loved to lower the multiplier :/ |
| 09:09.31 | Guerin | heh |
| 09:09.36 | sandman | Where'sthe module for p4 clock modulation? |
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| 09:09.49 | Guerin | i had to run my p4 at 3/4 clock speed until i went and bought a new HSF |
| 09:09.55 | Guerin | stupid intel |
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| 09:10.14 | pacman | I may have the wrong minor numbers on my devices in /dev/snd... |
| 09:10.22 | Flendor | LOL :) |
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| 09:10.58 | Flendor | (that was to Guerin) |
| 09:11.15 | Flendor | OK, breakfast calls.. |
| 09:11.58 | pacman | oh, no I don't... those are the OSS device numbers. Interesting how reading the ALSA documentation you can learn the OSS device numbers but not the ALSA ones... |
| 09:12.26 | bitumen | sandman, have a look at /lib/modules |
| 09:13.20 | sandman | bitumen: I found it |
| 09:13.58 | sandman | bitumen: I'm looking @ the proper sys dir with all the cpufreq stuff in it |
| 09:14.05 | sandman | So what shall I do? I want to scale it right now |
| 09:14.09 | bitumen | brb |
| 09:14.13 | sandman | Just echo "somefrequency" into a file? |
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| 09:15.25 | bitumen | "/sys/devives/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed" |
| 09:15.38 | sandman | Wel it looks like I just set the maxscale to 200MHz |
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| 09:15.54 | bitumen | echo numbers in there, but not the frequency.... |
| 09:15.59 | sandman | I don't have a scaling_setspeed. I used scaling_max_freq instead |
| 09:16.12 | bitumen | did it work? |
| 09:16.14 | sandman | I just ran echo "200000" > scaling_max_freq |
| 09:16.16 | sandman | Yip. |
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| 09:16.48 | bitumen | I have a really nice script, but it is to big to post it here... |
| 09:17.13 | dondelelcaro | bitumen: so use the paster bot |
| 09:17.50 | sandman | Now if I can just get 3d acceleration working (or at least 2d, that'd be nice too) for my ATI Radeon 340M |
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| 09:18.06 | bitumen | dondelelcaro, I would use my webserver, but my f*cking provider has filtered :80 last week |
| 09:18.28 | hackeron_ | sandman: I think you need the gatos drivers |
| 09:18.53 | hackeron_ | sandman: thats what I used to get acceleration on my Radeon Mobility |
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| 09:19.47 | sandman | hackeron_: Mornin |
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| 09:20.34 | sandman | Is there anything more I can do, like reduce the powerstate to C1 permanently? |
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| 09:20.44 | sandman | I want to reduce the CPU to almost nothing |
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| 09:20.59 | hackeron_ | sandman: suspend the machine :) |
| 09:20.59 | sandman | Becausefrankly, I don't need it. I need battery power |
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| 09:21.08 | sandman | Suspend is broken here |
| 09:21.17 | sandman | both to RAM and to disk |
| 09:21.33 | hackeron_ | sandman: well, you can get a transmeta based lappy like me and get around 17 hours battery life ;) |
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| 09:21.46 | sandman | hackeron_: Or, I could just stick with what I got and scale it down |
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| 09:22.01 | hackeron_ | sandman: yeah, and get 3 hours instead of 2.5 |
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| 09:22.09 | [sr] | freenode doesn't support the /list command? |
| 09:22.14 | Analyser | how i do to configure the mouse in the frame buffer? |
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| 09:22.35 | saloxin | Analyser: gpm? |
| 09:22.35 | hackeron_ | Analyser: you mean in the terminal? -- if so, gpm |
| 09:23.17 | bitumen | sandman, thermal throttling (hope spelled correctly...) |
| 09:23.17 | hackeron_ | [sr]: it does, if you're having problems, join #freenode |
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| 09:23.55 | [sr] | tks :P |
| 09:24.10 | [sr] | but i can't talk to the channel:| |
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| 09:25.00 | Analyser | saloxin: gpm are already configure without fb |
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| 09:25.15 | Analyser | saloxin: but when i activated the fb |
| 09:25.24 | Analyser | it doesnt works fine more |
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| 09:25.38 | dondelelcaro | [sr]: yes, wait for someone to voice you there. |
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| 09:25.50 | sandman | bitumen: I want to statically set the powerstate to C1, ad not C2/C3 |
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| 09:26.12 | sandman | Right now it's stuck @ C2 |
| 09:26.12 | [sr] | dondelelcaro ya i've saw the +m:| |
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| 09:27.16 | Miesco | Is it possible to minimize a full screen game? |
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| 09:28.04 | sandman | I cannot get my CPu to stay below 52C |
| 09:28.13 | [sr] | dondelelcaro can you past this to the # ? |
| 09:28.13 | [sr] | p 0 staff members |
| 09:28.13 | [sr] | End of /STATS report |
| 09:28.14 | [sr] | heeh |
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| 09:28.21 | sandman | Even when it's scaled down from 1.6GHz to 200MHz |
| 09:28.25 | trueno | sandman: turn if off ;-DD |
| 09:28.30 | sandman | This celeron still just sucks the life out of my batteries |
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| 09:28.43 | hackeron_ | sandman: yup, thats to be expected :) |
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| 09:29.25 | sandman | I just want to know how to scale down my CPU to the fullest |
| 09:29.35 | sandman | Reduce its power state permanently, lower its clock, throttle it, etc |
| 09:29.48 | hackeron_ | sandman: 200mhz is likely the maximum |
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| 09:30.07 | sandman | hackeron_: The power state isn't @ its lowest |
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| 09:30.42 | hackeron_ | sandman: my highest and lowest powerstate on this P4 is C1 |
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| 09:31.15 | hackeron_ | sandman: C3 is suspend I think, cant remember, but you dont want to change it |
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| 09:32.09 | hackeron_ | sandman: look in acpi settings in the bios, it will tell you what the states mean, its soft or hard suspend where different parts of the system switch off |
| 09:32.17 | yang | Someone knows how is that plug called which goes into digital camera? on the other side its usb |
| 09:32.57 | dondelelcaro | yang: depends on the camera |
| 09:33.19 | yang | i have the standard plug |
| 09:33.31 | yang | i saw the same on other cameras |
| 09:33.54 | xelam | it's called USB |
| 09:34.12 | xelam | probably USB mini connector :P |
| 09:34.58 | xelam | http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:_Vc48bSHHYUJ:http://www.atmarkit.co.jp/fsys/cableconnect/06usb_1394/03usb_mini_b-box-l.jpg |
| 09:35.01 | xelam | ? |
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| 09:35.50 | Jamie_85 | Hey does anyone know how to disable recrusive lookups? Can't seem to find it anywhere =( |
| 09:36.01 | yang | yes, but that plug is on camera, on the cable its different |
| 09:36.13 | yang | that is a female plug, on cable is male |
| 09:36.51 | xelam | yes |
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| 09:36.56 | xelam | it's a mini usb plug |
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| 09:38.29 | yang | http://www.pccables.com/cgi-bin/orders6.cgi?action=Showitem&id=ID725804&partno=70567&search=USB&rsite=pccables.com&rcode= |
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| 09:39.00 | sandman_ | 3That was cool. |
| 09:39.13 | sandman_ | Don't scale a 1.6GHz CPU down to 200MHz and then throttle it by 87% |
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| 09:40.24 | yang | but i would need a mini USB -> RS232 cable, i dont know where to order that |
| 09:41.06 | soar | the iptables rule i modified is always lost at reboot. |
| 09:41.22 | soar | "service iptables save " does not help it |
| 09:42.30 | shadowcat | that may be because the "service" command is red hat specific |
| 09:43.23 | soar | i see |
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| 09:49.02 | liable | meh, cant even make a bootable usb thing :( |
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| 09:49.44 | sandman_ | cpudyn looks useful |
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| 09:56.36 | nerval | Question ; How do I mount my other hard disk ? This is the situation, I've installed ubuntu on my second harddisk, but now can't reach to the files at the first one. Thinking that my file folder is "hda1" , how do I reach there ? Move files to hdb etc. ? Thanks. |
| 09:57.32 | liable | nerval: man mount, man fstab |
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| 09:57.44 | debugger | hello |
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| 09:59.46 | debugger | when I quit the "less" command on debian it restores the screen to it previous contents (this does not happen on FreeBSD), but I don't want that, how can I change this behaviour? I don't seem to find that mentioned on the less man page :( |
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| 10:00.19 | liable | debugger: use more, i think that does it. |
| 10:00.23 | sandman | Where are teh kernel patch debs for suspend2? |
| 10:00.29 | dondelelcaro | debugger: less -X will probably also do it |
| 10:01.05 | debugger | dondelelcaro, ah thats it! thx :) |
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| 10:07.51 | nerval | Question : I'm sorry again i tried to understand the 700 lines of explanation but couldn't understand it from "man mount" or "man fstab" . Installing a second linux distro, on a second hard disk. Afterwards I can't reach to hda1, how do I mount it ? |
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| 10:08.42 | mutante | nerval: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/something |
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| 10:09.15 | nerval | thank you so much, finally :) |
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| 10:12.44 | NyteRukh | morning |
| 10:13.04 | Jeff_s_cat | bye |
| 10:14.04 | NyteRukh | anyone awake |
| 10:14.22 | xelam | fraid not :( |
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| 10:14.54 | Aim_Here | IF there's anyone still moving, you should shoot them in the head before they eat your brains |
| 10:15.02 | Jeff_s_cat | me |
| 10:15.18 | xelam | a cat :D |
| 10:15.29 | NyteRukh | lol i got a problem and i cant fix it..anyone knowhow to change screen resolution? |
| 10:15.47 | NyteRukh | i know what the screen can handle ..just cant get x to do it |
| 10:15.47 | darkness | Hi, i'm after installing the latest sarge distro with the latest stable kernel.Which do i need seeing i'm using an amd athelon? |
| 10:16.20 | xelam | darkness: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 maybe |
| 10:16.25 | NyteRukh | :-$ |
| 10:16.36 | xelam | NyteRukh: umm edit your XF86Config |
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| 10:17.03 | NyteRukh | yea i done that dpkg-reconfigure xfree86 right? |
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| 10:17.27 | xelam | well there's a better program for detecting settings |
| 10:17.29 | NyteRukh | for some reason its stuck on the lowest one |
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| 10:17.37 | NyteRukh | oh ? |
| 10:17.43 | xelam | press ctrl-alt-+ or - |
| 10:17.50 | xelam | should cycle between resolutions |
| 10:17.58 | NyteRukh | (pb) |
| 10:18.20 | darkness | When i've installed sarge.Can i setup my dhcp by ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up && route add default gw 192.168.0.1 && echo "nameserver 192.168.0.1" >> /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 10:18.48 | NyteRukh | nope |
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| 10:19.28 | paivakil | darkness: sarge sets up networking for you during installation itself |
| 10:19.48 | NyteRukh | it should at leats |
| 10:19.59 | darkness | paivakil: Hope so wood didn't. |
| 10:20.21 | emRick | how do I get the source of package k3d? "apt-cache show k3d" will show it but "apt-get source k3d" says "E: Unable to find a source package for k3d". |
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| 10:20.46 | paivakil | emRick: you mean k3b? |
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| 10:21.01 | xelam | darkness: if you're using dhcp why do you want to specify manually? |
| 10:21.19 | emRick | paivakil: k3d - 3D modeling and animation system |
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| 10:21.51 | paivakil | emRick: does sources.list contain deb-src line? |
| 10:21.54 | darkness | xelam: i'm planing ahead from experiance installing woody. |
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| 10:22.55 | dds | I want to find a package owning a file that I do not have on my system (and thus the package is not installed). Is there a tool or a website that can provide that info? |
| 10:22.59 | paivakil | darkness: what is your problem? dhcp is set up automatically by sarge. |
| 10:23.00 | emRick | paivakil: I installed other sources and I currently have this line: |
| 10:23.00 | emRick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.30 | paivakil | did you do an apt-get update? |
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| 10:23.37 | dds | wasn't there some apt-auto-install that uses some database like that? |
| 10:23.46 | emRick | paivakil: all my other deb-src lines are commented out |
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| 10:23.56 | ToMMY2k | hello all, apt-get has broken after an apt-get install kde failed to complete. Im not missing libXft.so.2 so I can no longer run the likes of vim or apt-get. Could someone point me in the right direction please? |
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| 10:24.08 | ToMMY2k | s/not/am |
| 10:24.09 | paivakil | the server which carried k3d should have the sources too; check |
| 10:24.18 | darkness | paivakil: Thanks. I don't have a problem.I just like to sort things out before i install, |
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| 10:24.35 | ToMMY2k | Im using a 2.6 kernel on debian 3.1 |
| 10:25.29 | emRick | paivakil: how do I determine which server carried k3d? |
| 10:26.11 | paivakil | emRick: dunno. Try to uncomment the deb-src lines. ;( |
| 10:26.14 | emRick | paivakil: is that information stored somewhere during a "apt-get update"? |
| 10:26.35 | frankie | ToMMY2k: paste the error on a paste server and let us see it |
| 10:26.42 | ToMMY2k | ok |
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| 10:28.32 | Eiscreme | hi |
| 10:28.53 | Eiscreme | my digital camera is plugged to my PC with an USB Cable |
| 10:28.59 | Eiscreme | how can I access the images, please? |
| 10:29.01 | ToMMY2k | ok http://channels.debian.net/paste/818 |
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| 10:29.12 | emRick | Does /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin register the the server from which a package comes? If so, how do I read those files? (They are currently in some binary format.) |
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| 10:29.48 | trueno | Eiscreme: mount it as if it were a scsi drive |
| 10:29.52 | emRick | paivakil: thanks for your tips. I think you've got me pointed in a more useful direction than befoer. |
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| 10:30.18 | trueno | Eiscreme: usually /dev/sd{a,b}1 |
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| 10:30.56 | ToMMY2k | frankie: the log is at http://channels.debian.net/paste/818 |
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| 10:31.11 | frankie | ToMMY2k: what happened to libXft.so.2? |
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| 10:31.21 | ToMMY2k | your asking me :) |
| 10:31.37 | paivakil | ToMMY2k: libXft.so.2 is concerned with font rendering in X |
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| 10:31.40 | frankie | ToMMY2k: it has been removed or is corrupted |
| 10:31.50 | ToMMY2k | well I tried to install kde |
| 10:31.52 | ToMMY2k | but it failed |
| 10:31.59 | ToMMY2k | and since has broken my system |
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| 10:32.30 | ToMMY2k | it did try to install x as well, which is where I think it actually failed |
| 10:32.31 | frankie | ToMMY2k: try reinstalling libxft2 |
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| 10:32.40 | NyteRukh | sorry had tech problems |
| 10:32.43 | frankie | ToMMY2k: via dpkg |
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| 10:32.59 | rutski89 | Is there a place to get "lib c" docs |
| 10:33.03 | rutski89 | I love the javadocs |
| 10:33.05 | rutski89 | but I'm learning c |
| 10:33.21 | caphuso | glibc-doc |
| 10:33.57 | ToMMY2k | frankie: ok that got me on a little bit, now Im missing libXcursor.so.1: |
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| 10:34.26 | frankie | ToMMY2k: libxcursor1 too and so on :) |
| 10:34.48 | ToMMY2k | ok Ill do my best |
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| 10:35.04 | frankie | ToMMY2k: wtf kde package were you trying to install? |
| 10:35.13 | ToMMY2k | apt-get install kde |
| 10:35.17 | ToMMY2k | as far as I can remember |
| 10:35.28 | ToMMY2k | and the rest was automated |
| 10:35.30 | NyteRukh | :-? |
| 10:35.39 | frankie | ToMMY2k: not on sarge i suppose |
| 10:35.58 | ToMMY2k | Im on 3.1, so I think thats sarge |
| 10:36.05 | ToMMY2k | Im also using a 2.6 kernel |
| 10:36.14 | Norbert | hramrach: hey, for some reason, after booting my machine (I had it down during sleeping) it now runs with all the alsa stuff after all, and "lsmod|grep snd" now shows all kinds of snd-drivers; only problem is: it's playing, but the volume is on 0 and I can't set it any louder; any idea what to do? |
| 10:36.32 | ToMMY2k | I like to think of myself as the blind leading the sighted with this linux box |
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| 10:37.30 | NyteRukh | lol |
| 10:37.45 | NyteRukh | im seeing large right now |
| 10:38.07 | ToMMY2k | ok |
| 10:38.09 | ToMMY2k | I think Im all fixed |
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| 10:38.21 | ToMMY2k | frankie: thanks for your help |
| 10:38.27 | frankie | u r welcome |
| 10:38.36 | Mo3 | how do i configure the iptables firewall in debian? |
| 10:38.36 | ToMMY2k | my eyes are slowly opening :) |
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| 10:39.10 | ToMMY2k | you need to create a firewall script and load it at startup to load firewall rules into ip tables when you boot up |
| 10:39.12 | NyteRukh | yep so anyone got any ideas on the resolution |
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| 10:39.28 | ToMMY2k | man iptables has all you need |
| 10:39.32 | frankie | Mo3: add a suitable pre-up rule to your eth /etc/network/interfaces stanza |
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| 10:39.47 | frankie | Mo3: that's the suggested way |
| 10:39.57 | Mo3 | okay, thanks |
| 10:40.04 | ToMMY2k | yeah ignore me..youll end up breaking things if you follow my directions :) |
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| 10:40.34 | NyteRukh | well dpkg reconfigure cant seem to change the resolution of the screen |
| 10:41.09 | frankie | NyteRukh: resolution or size? |
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| 10:41.22 | NyteRukh | resoultion |
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| 10:41.38 | frankie | NyteRukh: you mean the 75/100dpi thingy? |
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| 10:41.41 | NyteRukh | im stuck at the lowest one and i want to go to 1024x768 |
| 10:41.53 | NyteRukh | 75mhz frequency |
| 10:41.59 | NyteRukh | mmm no |
| 10:42.18 | frankie | NyteRukh: that can be changed by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and running dexconf |
| 10:42.39 | frankie | NyteRukh: if you use debconf to manage things of course |
| 10:42.41 | NyteRukh | dexconf ? just type that in at a command prompt? |
| 10:42.48 | frankie | yup |
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| 10:42.54 | NyteRukh | as root? |
| 10:43.12 | frankie | sure |
| 10:43.19 | NyteRukh | k i'll try that |
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| 10:43.37 | frankie | NyteRukh: and man dexconf explains the ratio |
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| 10:43.54 | valdyn | Norbert: why cant you set up the volume? |
| 10:44.00 | rutski89 | glibc-doc looks OK |
| 10:44.08 | rutski89 | but that's not what i wanted |
| 10:44.15 | Norbert | valdyn, dunno |
| 10:44.29 | valdyn | Norbert: run 'alsamixer' |
| 10:44.33 | rutski89 | I simply want a list of the .h files in glibc with a brief description of their functions |
| 10:44.35 | NyteRukh | mm |
| 10:44.39 | valdyn | Norbert: or *some* mixer that supports alsa |
| 10:44.40 | Norbert | valdyn: I know ;-), but it's not allowing me to set the volume above 0... |
| 10:44.58 | NyteRukh | k im missing something |
| 10:45.03 | frankie | rutski89: you can have a posix man for that |
| 10:45.04 | rutski89 | although glibc-doc does look awesome |
| 10:45.29 | NyteRukh | debconf or dexconf |
| 10:45.33 | valdyn | Norbert: 'modprobe snd-mixer-oss' and run some random oss mixer |
| 10:45.38 | frankie | rutski89: see manpages-posix-dev for that |
| 10:45.42 | frankie | rutski89: in non-free |
| 10:45.53 | valdyn | Norbert: you also might want to check that you are in the audio group 'groups' |
| 10:45.57 | Eiscreme | trueno? |
| 10:45.58 | frankie | NyteRukh: dexconf |
| 10:46.02 | Eiscreme | I am sorry trueno I got a call |
| 10:46.08 | Norbert | valdyn: I'm in that group, I'll try modprobe snd-mixer-oss |
| 10:46.13 | Eiscreme | how do you mean the SCSI stuff with the braces? |
| 10:46.14 | Frostbite | Is anyone else having dep problems with stable? mainly python2.3-dev. I've updated multiple times and it still relies on an older version of python - python2.3-dev: Depends: python2.3 (= 2.3.5-3sarge1) but 2.3.5-6 is to be installed |
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| 10:46.19 | frankie | NyteRukh: and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 before |
| 10:46.25 | Norbert | valdyn: no effect |
| 10:46.38 | NyteRukh | k |
| 10:46.39 | valdyn | Norbert: what are you using to change volume? |
| 10:46.43 | Norbert | alsamixer |
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| 10:46.50 | Norbert | the master is currently muted |
| 10:46.51 | dondelelcaro | does anyone know if irssi's config file happens to have an include statement? |
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| 10:47.01 | valdyn | Norbert: and you cant unmute it? |
| 10:47.09 | Norbert | using "M" works, but I can't change the volume |
| 10:47.27 | valdyn | Norbert: cursor up and down doesnt work? |
| 10:47.35 | Norbert | nope |
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| 10:47.43 | rutski89 | frankie: umm... sweet!! |
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| 10:47.56 | rutski89 | frankie: this is perfect, thanks :) |
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| 10:48.49 | Norbert | valdyn: lsmod|grep snd shows: snd-via82xx , snd-pcm-oss, snd-mixer-oss , snd-ac97-codec, snd-pcm, snd-timer, gameport , snd-mpu401-uart, snd-rawmidi , snd-seq-device, snd, snd-page-alloc, soundcore |
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| 10:49.38 | Norbert | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2005-09-30 22:03 /dev/mixer -> /dev/mixer0 |
| 10:49.38 | Norbert | crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 0 2005-09-30 22:03 /dev/mixer0 |
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| 10:50.04 | NyteRukh | i typed dexconf but nothing happened |
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| 10:50.44 | frankie | that's the way it works, returns prompt |
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| 10:51.16 | frankie | NyteRukh: now you should have a new resolution set into your X config |
| 10:51.24 | NyteRukh | k but stll the res hasnt changed..or do i have toreboot in order to restart x and get the res |
| 10:51.26 | NyteRukh | okies |
| 10:51.36 | frankie | NyteRukh: just need to reload x of course |
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| 10:51.53 | NyteRukh | so stopx then startx or restart x |
| 10:51.54 | frankie | NyteRukh: just zap, crtl-alt-backspace |
| 10:52.32 | frankie | NyteRukh: yes |
| 10:52.32 | Frostbite | Python2.4 seems fine; will everything be moving deps to python2.4 soon? |
| 10:52.32 | kokkoo | hi im having bit performance trouble with r8169 module.. transferring FROM the device is excellent, but TO the device is not good, only 3-4mb\sek.. anyone ? |
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| 10:52.40 | frankie | Frostbite: not in sarge of course |
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| 10:53.00 | darkness | Can someone please give me a link where i can d/load disk one bootable of distro sarge? |
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| 10:53.17 | Muffie | hello all. I have created some directories inside /mnt: win_c, win_d, ... and added them to fstab. Two of them were NTFS, and the permissions are like this (dr-x------). So, only root can read them. When I try to use chmod og=r /mnt/win_d, it returns me the following error: chmod: changing permissions of `win_d/': Read-only file system. But I'm not trying to make it writeable... Anyone knows what I am doing wrong? |
| 10:53.32 | Frostbite | frankie: this is my problem... python2.3-dev: Depends: python2.3 (= 2.3.5-3sarge1) but 2.3.5-6 is to be installed |
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| 10:53.38 | frankie | kokkoo: transferring how? |
| 10:53.40 | Muffie | bjour keikoz |
| 10:53.45 | keikoz | :) |
| 10:53.58 | frankie | Frostbite: you mixed package from different sources |
| 10:54.08 | frankie | Frostbite: now you are on your own |
| 10:54.11 | kokkoo | frankie : by ftp, proftpd server. |
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| 10:54.26 | Muffie | anyone knows something about the chmod issue? |
| 10:54.26 | Frostbite | frankie: I'm using main/contrib from ftp.uk.debian.org and security.debian.org That's it |
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| 10:54.30 | keikoz | Muffie to give right rights you have to indicate them in /etc/fstab |
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| 10:55.11 | Muffie | keikoz : can you point me where I can set them? |
| 10:55.12 | frankie | Frostbite: 2.3.5-6 is in testing |
| 10:55.26 | Frostbite | frankie: odd... can I downgrade? |
| 10:55.33 | abel | hi all, any user of valknut by here ? |
| 10:55.44 | Muffie | keikoz : win_d is declared this way inside fstab: /dev/hdc1 /mnt/win_d ntfs defaults 0 0 |
| 10:55.45 | trueno | Muffie: Have you checked your fstab for mount options |
| 10:55.54 | keikoz | Muffie i think you can put umask=0222 |
| 10:55.55 | migiel | when i do dpkg-reconfigure locales and i install "en_US", i get this error when i typ 'locale': cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: no such file or directory... what can be wrong? |
| 10:55.59 | frankie | Frostbite: yes, if supported by all packages, specify /stable or =version in apt-get |
| 10:56.02 | Muffie | trueno : checking now! :) |
| 10:56.05 | keikoz | that's a ntfs related pbl |
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| 10:56.15 | frankie | Frostbite: generally downgrade is _not_ supported |
| 10:56.22 | frankie | Frostbite: but you can try |
| 10:56.28 | Muffie | keikoz : where? at options, like defaults,umask=0222 |
| 10:57.00 | Frostbite | frankie: can you be more specific, i.e. example cmd? |
| 10:57.02 | frankie | kokkoo: see #proftpd, anyway performances are a lot variable |
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| 10:57.33 | keikoz | Muffie yes |
| 10:57.36 | frankie | Frostbite: apt-get install python2.3=2.3.5-3sarge1 after adding stable repo to sources.list and update |
| 10:57.39 | kokkoo | frankie : there are two eth's, the only one having problems is the r8169 one. |
| 10:57.40 | keikoz | but you can take "defauls" away |
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| 10:58.14 | valdyn | Norbert: i see no soundcard driver loaded |
| 10:58.17 | frankie | kokkoo: nice, are you sure it's a 100mb ;-) ? |
| 10:58.35 | Muffie | keikoz, nice. Another question should be: I need to restart the machine for changes to take effect? |
| 10:58.40 | Frostbite | frankie: E: Version '-2.3.5-3sarge1' for 'python2.3' was not found I've definately been running stable for ages. |
| 10:58.44 | valdyn | Norbert: ops, nm, i was blind |
| 10:58.44 | kokkoo | frankie : hehe its a 100mbit and a 1gbit card :P |
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| 10:59.07 | Frostbite | frankie: worked |
| 10:59.12 | frankie | eh |
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| 10:59.33 | keikoz | Muffie nope |
| 10:59.37 | keikoz | juste mount -a |
| 10:59.43 | keikoz | (being root) |
| 10:59.49 | Muffie | nice! thanks. let me try |
| 10:59.55 | Frostbite | frankie: thank you... it's working now :) |
| 10:59.57 | keikoz | good luck :o) |
| 11:00.12 | keikoz | hum but umount it before |
| 11:00.22 | Muffie | keikoz : nice! hehe (mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc1 is already mounted on /mnt/win_d) |
| 11:00.35 | majnoon | ok got an interesting question is there a way to reset/restore default settings for a user ?? |
| 11:00.38 | Norbert | valdyn: is there an easy way for me to go back to the OSS-stuff? (I apt-get installed the alsa stuff) |
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| 11:00.56 | darkness | Hi, can you download from a mirror site a minimal cd disk for sarge? |
| 11:01.13 | Norbert | valdyn: will apt-get remove enable the OSS-drivers again? |
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| 11:01.36 | fox-boy | hey all.... i'm entering a few more mirrors in my /etc/apt/sources.list and was wondering what "contrib" meant. Can someone help please :-) |
| 11:01.37 | xelam | darkness: yes |
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| 11:02.05 | darkness | xelam: Do you have a link please? |
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| 11:02.58 | xelam | well, I use this: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 11:03.04 | xelam | as it's hosted where I work |
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| 11:03.14 | majnoon | fox-boy it mean it not a "part" of debian but it under their catagoriy for "free" |
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| 11:03.34 | darkness | Cool xelam. Pay good? |
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| 11:04.00 | xelam | erm it's ok o.O |
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| 11:04.15 | ircops | lol |
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| 11:04.30 | darkness | xelam: Says only 108mb? |
| 11:04.30 | Skoll | bueno, hay buenas y malas noticias |
| 11:04.31 | ircops | "In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?" |
| 11:04.36 | Skoll | ya estoy como user |
| 11:04.41 | Skoll | pero es problema de permisos |
| 11:04.41 | ircops | !es |
| 11:04.41 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:04.45 | fox-boy | maajnoon: thanks :-) |
| 11:04.46 | Skoll | el chown no ha hecho nada |
| 11:04.47 | Skoll | :S |
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| 11:04.52 | Skoll | sorry |
| 11:05.00 | frankie | fox-boy: it's free software depending on non-free one |
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| 11:05.35 | fox-boy | frankie: thanks |
| 11:05.38 | valdyn | Norbert: yea |
| 11:05.49 | xelam | darkness: yes it's minimal :P |
| 11:05.55 | xelam | the network install CD |
| 11:06.06 | valdyn | Norbert: alsa-base enables/disables alsa |
| 11:06.12 | Muffie | thank you all! Another issue closed |
| 11:06.14 | valdyn | Norbert: but there used to be a linux-sound package too or somesuch |
| 11:06.18 | drac | xmove seems to be killed by upstream, and debian one of last distros distributing that software. Is there anything look'n'feel a-like that can move running x11 applications between X servers (displays) ? |
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| 11:06.33 | drac | Something that is still alive.. |
| 11:06.44 | valdyn | Norbert: dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base |
| 11:07.02 | valdyn | Norbert: no package removal required |
| 11:07.33 | Norbert | it says the package is unavailable... Package `linux-sound-base' is not installed and no info is available. |
| 11:07.34 | valdyn | Norbert: ah hold on, im not sure that package is in sarge |
| 11:07.42 | valdyn | Norbert: alright, just remove alsa-base then |
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| 11:08.14 | valdyn | !contrib |
| 11:08.14 | dpkg | contrib is, like, debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free packages To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need contrib on the end. |
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| 11:09.22 | valdyn | Norbert: that via soundchip of yours is excellently supported by alsa however. |
| 11:09.36 | Norbert | valdyn: okay, everything back to normal ;-) - thanks for the help |
| 11:09.46 | majnoon | ok got an interesting question is there a way to reset/restore default settings for a user ?? |
| 11:09.53 | valdyn | Norbert: welcome |
| 11:10.04 | valdyn | majnoon: which settings? |
| 11:10.18 | majnoon | like path etc. |
| 11:10.31 | nkuttler | majnoon: log out, log in? |
| 11:10.42 | nkuttler | majnoon: resource your shellrc? |
| 11:10.55 | majnoon | THAT i can do |
| 11:11.25 | majnoon | when try to run most commands it says <command> not found |
| 11:11.27 | valdyn | majnoon: patch is set via 'export $PATH blah, that is done by various dotfiles ( /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc ( globally ) and ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc, see the faq ) |
| 11:11.37 | valdyn | majnoon: ops, PATH, not patch |
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| 11:12.04 | majnoon | example |
| 11:12.09 | majnoon | troy@ip68-97-32-224:/$ mc |
| 11:12.09 | majnoon | bash: mc: command not found |
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| 11:12.19 | valdyn | majnoon: echo $PATH |
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| 11:12.33 | majnoon | not inthat in a live cd |
| 11:12.49 | valdyn | majnoon: this channel doesnt support livecds |
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| 11:13.10 | majnoon | trying to fix from a live cd |
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| 11:13.22 | majnoon | it says /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/games |
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| 11:13.30 | majnoon | dooing a chroot |
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| 11:14.00 | valdyn | majnoon: that path looks fine, mc is in /usr/bin/ if its installed, and that is contained in your $PATH |
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| 11:14.17 | nkuttler | majnoon: is mc even installed? |
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| 11:14.19 | valdyn | majnoon: ls -l /usr/bin/mc |
| 11:15.19 | majnoon | i get this :: ls: /usr/bin/mc: Permission denied |
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| 11:15.47 | nkuttler | majnoon: why are you using a rescue cd? and why the hell do you need mc? |
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| 11:16.10 | majnoon | mc VERY handy |
| 11:16.21 | nkuttler | majnoon: to do what? edit lilo.conf? |
| 11:16.37 | majnoon | because all i can get in installed system is root |
| 11:16.54 | Lorvija | hey, can i make nano start always with -w flag? so i dont need to specify it in the start.. |
| 11:16.55 | nkuttler | majnoon: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
| 11:17.11 | nkuttler | Lorvija: in bash? |
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| 11:17.17 | majnoon | THAT easy to fix |
| 11:17.19 | Lorvija | nkuttler yes |
| 11:17.25 | Anders | Lorvija, edit /etc/nanorc |
| 11:17.29 | Anders | there is a nowrap setting |
| 11:17.38 | Anders | or put alias nano="nano -w" in your .bashrc :) |
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| 11:17.58 | nkuttler | majnoon: please, try to write complete sentences. i have no idea what you are talking about. |
| 11:17.59 | user_ | ia65 |
| 11:18.10 | Lorvija | Anders okay thanks! |
| 11:18.40 | majnoon | easy to change root pass with rescue cd just chroot and do passwd |
| 11:18.41 | solemnwarning | hi all |
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| 11:19.02 | solemnwarning | does anyone here have courier + MySQL setup and courier is actually connecting to MySQL/ |
| 11:19.03 | grexk | what is the package for xdmcp |
| 11:19.16 | nkuttler | majnoon: so why are you distracting yourself with mc? concentrate on the problem |
| 11:19.38 | liable | grexk: /msg dpkg search |
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| 11:20.29 | majnoon | me THINK i found problem but it even wierder then me thought |
| 11:20.49 | valdyn | majnoon: its 'weird' taht your permissions are fucked? |
| 11:21.15 | majnoon | eg doing ls -al i got this drwx------ 16 root root 4096 2005-10-01 03:17 usr |
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| 11:21.39 | majnoon | i DON'T think that right |
| 11:21.43 | valdyn | majnoon: how the hell did you mess with permissions like that? |
| 11:21.52 | valdyn | majnoon: you used 'cp' to copy a system? |
| 11:21.52 | majnoon | no know |
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| 11:22.11 | majnoon | nope tried a dit-upgrade though |
| 11:22.17 | majnoon | *dist |
| 11:22.27 | valdyn | majnoon: nothing to do with distr-upgrade |
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| 11:22.35 | majnoon | then i no know |
| 11:22.51 | valdyn | majnoon: well, permissions dont change themselves, you did something |
| 11:23.06 | majnoon | that much i do know |
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| 11:24.53 | majnoon | is there a url on what they SUPPOSED to be?? |
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| 11:25.06 | valdyn | majnoon: just reinstall |
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| 11:25.16 | valdyn | !reinstall |
| 11:25.16 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 11:25.34 | valdyn | majnoon: but probably even better to reinstall completely from scratch |
| 11:25.57 | nkuttler | majnoon: well are all your pesmission broken? or only /usr/? |
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| 11:25.58 | migiel | when i do dpkg-reconfigure locales and i install "en_US", i get this error when i typ 'locale': cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: no such file or directory... what can be wrong? |
| 11:26.08 | majnoon | LOOKS like all |
| 11:26.22 | nkuttler | majnoon: yeah, reinstall and don't play with chmod as root |
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| 11:26.53 | valdyn | migiel: you have to relogin if you didnt create your current locale |
| 11:27.15 | migiel | valdyn: i did... same problem |
| 11:27.32 | majnoon | this do it then ?? COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install |
| 11:27.35 | migiel | valdyn: do you know where these locales are saved ? |
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| 11:28.16 | dondelelcaro | migiel: what is LC_CTYPE set to? |
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| 11:28.49 | migiel | dondelelcaro "en_US" |
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| 11:29.03 | tonfox | halllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr |
| 11:29.04 | dondelelcaro | migiel: then it sure sounds like you haven't actually built the en_US locale. |
| 11:29.17 | simonrvn | uh, must've closed the window by mistake... duh me |
| 11:29.30 | migiel | dondelelcaro: i did.. |
| 11:29.40 | dondelelcaro | migiel: after dpkg-reconfigure locales; you should have seen the locales being built by localegen |
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| 11:29.55 | dondelelcaro | s/eg/e-g/ |
| 11:30.00 | migiel | dondelelcaro: yes i've seen that.. |
| 11:30.20 | tonfox | wat/////////////??????????????? |
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| 11:30.47 | dondelelcaro | migiel: and it built en_US.ISO8859-1, right? |
| 11:30.52 | majnoon | !reinstall |
| 11:30.52 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
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| 11:31.37 | migiel | dondelelcaro: en_US ISO-8859-1 indeed |
| 11:32.09 | dondelelcaro | migiel: right; export LC_CTYPE="en_US"; then type locale; again |
| 11:32.20 | Analyser | someone know what package provides lite necessary for dbfterm? i searched it with apt-cache and auto-apt, i found a lot of packages with lite in the name. |
| 11:32.35 | box-boy | sorry for jumping in but could someone help with respect to my need to update my /etc/apt/sources.list file... |
| 11:32.38 | migiel | dondelelcaro: same problem.. |
| 11:32.48 | valdyn | !tell Analyser -about search |
| 11:33.06 | box-boy | i vi'd the /etc/apt/sources.list direct with new mirrors but when i started Synoptic i got errors |
| 11:33.24 | liable | box-boy: use apt-setup |
| 11:33.24 | box-boy | it didn't recognize my entries (I've read the man page and followed the formats) |
| 11:33.25 | dondelelcaro | migiel: give the full output of locale; cat /etc/locale.gen and sudo locale-gen; then... [use the paster bot] |
| 11:33.51 | box-boy | liable: thanks. Do i type apt-setup at the system prompt? |
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| 11:33.56 | nkuttler | box-boy: update? |
| 11:34.00 | migiel | dondelelcaro: it's only one line.. |
| 11:34.01 | nkuttler | hm |
| 11:34.14 | alan_ | Why is there no 'kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-k7' package in ANY of the sections of the repos? |
| 11:34.18 | dondelelcaro | migiel: uh... on Debian it should be a whole lot more than one line. |
| 11:34.38 | valdyn | !info kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-k7 |
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| 11:34.49 | migiel | dondelelcaro: it only says: en_US ISO-8859-1 |
| 11:35.02 | valdyn | alan_: its called linux-headers... now |
| 11:35.15 | alan_ | valdyn: ah.... i see.... |
| 11:35.22 | xzu | ppl, how do i check what packages provide a certain filename? |
| 11:35.34 | valdyn | alan_: since debian is at least starting to support non-linux kernels |
| 11:35.35 | xzu | s/packages/package/ |
| 11:35.43 | azeem | xzu: packages.debian.org can do that |
| 11:35.55 | dondelelcaro | migiel: it should have the line # XXX GENERATED XXX in it. |
| 11:35.57 | resiak | xzu: apt-file, or dpkg -S, depending on whether you want to search all packages or only those you have installed |
| 11:36.07 | xzu | resiak: thanks! |
| 11:36.07 | dondelelcaro | migiel: if it doesn't, then you're either not running Debian, or you've munged that file. |
| 11:36.33 | migiel | dondelelcaro: it has some comments in it, but not that one |
| 11:36.43 | migiel | dondelelcaro: i didnt touch it.. |
| 11:36.56 | dondelelcaro | migiel: well, give me the whole output, including the comments using channels.debian.net/paste |
| 11:37.18 | alan_ | valdyn: apt-cache search linux-headers doesnt give me anything... |
| 11:37.40 | valdyn | alan_: no such thing in sarge |
| 11:37.55 | alan_ | valdyn: ah, i need the testing/unstable repos? |
| 11:37.55 | valdyn | alan_: sarge doesnt have kernels above 2.6.8 at all |
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| 11:38.08 | migiel | dondelelcaro: i'll try... but i only have terminal access |
| 11:38.09 | alan_ | valdyn: ok, makes sense - i got my kernel from unstable |
| 11:38.32 | valdyn | alan_: just grab the headers from http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 11:38.59 | majnoon | !reinstall |
| 11:38.59 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
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| 11:39.16 | dondelelcaro | majnoon: you can /msg the bot. |
| 11:39.21 | liable | majnoon: you can /msg dpkg. |
| 11:40.04 | migiel | how can i copy paste in a terminal ? :P |
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| 11:40.20 | alan_ | valdyn: thats what i'm doing... however, there arent 2.6.11 headers, only 2.6.12 |
| 11:40.24 | liable | migiel: gpm |
| 11:40.34 | alan_ | valdyn: there seems to be a gap where there are NO packages |
| 11:40.41 | resiak | alan_: 2.6.11 was still kernel-* I think |
| 11:41.02 | valdyn | alan_: yea right ^^^ |
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| 11:41.16 | alan_ | resiak: can't find kernel-headers for 2.6.11 or linux-headers |
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| 11:41.43 | chedabob | sup |
| 11:41.49 | chedabob | does debian have ntfs support? |
| 11:42.00 | dondelelcaro | chedabob: the kernel does, yes. |
| 11:42.07 | chedabob | which means? |
| 11:42.10 | chedabob | :P |
| 11:42.12 | dondelelcaro | chedabob: which means that the kernel does. |
| 11:42.14 | alan_ | valdyn: ? you think i lie? |
| 11:42.29 | dondelelcaro | chedabob: NTFS support has everything to do with the kernel, and very little to do with anything else. |
| 11:42.36 | valdyn | alan_: no i think what resiak said |
| 11:42.42 | chedabob | so if the kernel supports it when i use konqueror i will see my ntfs drives? |
| 11:42.43 | resiak | valdyn: I appear to be wrong. |
| 11:42.56 | valdyn | resiak: iyou arent wrong |
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| 11:43.00 | chedabob | sorry linux is totally new to me |
| 11:43.10 | alan_ | valdyn: i tried kernel-headers-2.6, and looked through them |
| 11:43.11 | dondelelcaro | chedabob: you can mount your NTFS partitions, yes. |
| 11:43.15 | valdyn | resiak: err uh oh, i shouild look better |
| 11:43.17 | chedabob | kk |
| 11:43.18 | alan_ | valdyn: all 2.6.8 |
| 11:43.18 | chedabob | thanks |
| 11:43.23 | chedabob | does it support wireless adaptors? |
| 11:43.27 | resiak | valdyn: Exactly, that's what I thought to myself. |
| 11:43.31 | alan_ | and linux-headers start at 2.6.12 |
| 11:43.39 | valdyn | alan_: looks to me like 2.6.11 isnt in debian at all anymore |
| 11:43.53 | alan_ | but there is a 2.6.11 kernel :S |
| 11:44.00 | alan_ | time to upgrade methinks... |
| 11:44.09 | drac | There is no 2.6.11 in Unstable. |
| 11:44.12 | alan_ | valdyn: i only upgraded to 2.6.11 last night |
| 11:44.14 | valdyn | alan_: nah, there was only when you installed it, isnt anymore |
| 11:44.15 | drac | Only 2.6.8 and 2.6.12. |
| 11:44.19 | dondelelcaro | chedabob: the kernel does, yes. |
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| 11:44.36 | chedabob | linksys wrt54gs or will i have to get ndiswrapper running? |
| 11:44.40 | alan_ | valdyn: just unlucky? |
| 11:45.24 | chedabob | oops not wrt54gs |
| 11:45.28 | chedabob | wusb54g |
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| 11:45.34 | valdyn | alan_: in a way yea |
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| 11:47.35 | dpy | hi guys |
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| 11:47.39 | chedabob | hi |
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| 11:48.11 | dpy | does anyone here know of cheap PCI type remote administration (remote console) boards for i386 hardware |
| 11:48.54 | dpy | e.g. I have a generic i386 PC and I want to be able to access it via remote console, dus boot/failure/BIOS etc.. |
| 11:49.03 | dpy | only need text IO, no gfx |
| 11:49.16 | valdyn | alan_: this probably has something to do with the udev changes as the new udev that is in etch and sid does not support kernels below 2.6.12 |
| 11:49.18 | dpy | dus=so |
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| 11:49.23 | chedabob | rt..assuming that all my stuff works with debian, can i format my linux partitions (got rh9 on them) with the net installation? |
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| 11:49.50 | valdyn | alan_: so consequently neither etch nor sid can support kernels below 2.6.12 anymore |
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| 11:53.38 | majnoon | how can i get a list of EVERYTHING i have installed |
| 11:53.47 | simonrvn | man dpkg |
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| 11:54.07 | marstewel | dpkg --get-selections |
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| 11:55.01 | simonrvn | eh, simpler would be dpkg -l |
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| 11:57.01 | simonrvn | getting a lot of asy206.as253205.sol.superonline.com and 83.103.168.202 |
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| 11:58.11 | spear | hi ! |
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| 12:01.06 | chedabob | if i use net install and i only install stuff i need , how can i add stuff later? |
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| 12:01.31 | Guerin | chedabob: man aptitude |
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| 12:02.18 | chedabob | can i format my linux partitions with the net cd? |
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| 12:04.08 | ircops | hey bootsplash is stuck in the "broken installation" state and keeps wanting to install everytime I do anything in apt, but when I try to remove it it is giving me errors: "bootsplash-theme-newlinux: Depends: bootsplash (>= 3.0.0) but it is not installable" -- all I want to do is get rid of it and never hear about it again. |
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| 12:05.08 | ircops | sorry that error is the one for the installation, not removal |
| 12:05.47 | valdyn | chedabob: sure |
| 12:06.29 | valdyn | ircops: apt-get remove --purge bootsplash |
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| 12:09.07 | ircops | okay it's actually saying that it's not installed. It's still trying to install it though. |
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| 12:09.55 | kataklysm- | is there anyway to add soulseek connections to gtk-gnutella? |
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| 12:10.05 | alan_ | Am i right in saying a 2.6.12 kernel is much more likely to support my onboard LAN than a 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 12:10.32 | azeem | for varying values of 'much' |
| 12:10.38 | xoz | depends what changes were made in the kernel |
| 12:10.45 | alan_ | lol |
| 12:11.03 | alan_ | well, I'm assuming newer kernels support newer hardware |
| 12:11.28 | Tortel | probably |
| 12:11.31 | Tortel | cyas |
| 12:11.33 | alan_ | and i know for a fact my 2.6.8 kernel DOESNT support the onboard LAN on nForce 4 mobos |
| 12:12.14 | xoz | check the changelogs |
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| 12:14.36 | mutante | alan_: http://wiki.debian.net/?Mainboards |
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| 12:15.02 | spear | did anybody ever find a truly reliable " hard disk image " software ??? |
| 12:15.37 | alan_ | thanks mutante |
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| 12:16.10 | Guerin | spear: dd is pretty damn reliable |
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| 12:17.15 | spear | i've trie ghost & true image : i always get some matters with Grub, it doesn't work and you have to fix it ... boring |
| 12:17.30 | spear | i've seen that zsplit tool, seems to be nice too ? |
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| 12:17.43 | alan_ | mutante: so what you are trying to say is, if its not there, its unlikely to work? |
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| 12:18.28 | kain_ | hi, there was some heavy changes today on sid packages, now my server won't log me in ssh anymore.. any ideas? |
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| 12:18.56 | Guerin | kain_: don't run sid. |
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| 12:19.10 | kain_ | i know, but now i've this problem. |
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| 12:19.13 | Guerin | kain_: particularly not on a remote server. |
| 12:19.17 | Guerin | kain_: ssh -vvv |
| 12:19.17 | ircops | kain_: start over |
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| 12:19.38 | Guerin | ircops: how? |
| 12:19.48 | mutante | alan_: yes,but you are also asked to add your own info,if its not there |
| 12:19.49 | spear | why do so many people pop in and leave ???? |
| 12:19.51 | ircops | Guerin: magnet to the hard drive |
| 12:19.52 | ircops | hehe |
| 12:20.01 | EdgEy_ | spear, fucking spambots |
| 12:20.05 | kain_ | it's almost a year that i run sid, never had a problem, only today it won't log me in |
| 12:20.05 | spear | i see |
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| 12:20.10 | mutante | alan_: its a wiki,be part of it |
| 12:20.14 | Guerin | ircops: soounds like he doesn't have local access. |
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| 12:20.26 | Guerin | kain_: it's always just a matter of time until sid self-destructs. |
| 12:20.34 | alan_ | mutante: fair enough... |
| 12:20.35 | spear | so, you think dd would work perfectly and keep the bootloader in good shape after restoration ? |
| 12:20.36 | xelam | maybe someone hacked the server ;) |
| 12:20.40 | kain_ | i know the risks, i know debian |
| 12:20.51 | kain_ | xelam, no, until the upgrade i was logged in |
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| 12:20.57 | xelam | I see |
| 12:21.01 | kain_ | i switched back using scp after the upgrade |
| 12:21.03 | kain_ | et voilŕ |
| 12:21.11 | alan_ | spear: dd the partition, mount it, chroot, then grub-install |
| 12:21.15 | xelam | switched back? |
| 12:21.26 | spear | et voilŕ quoi ? |
| 12:21.27 | kain_ | logged out and logged it with winscp |
| 12:21.34 | kain_ | no more logins |
| 12:21.39 | kain_ | with any user |
| 12:21.41 | spear | k |
| 12:21.46 | bni | how can i kill -9 all processes having amarok in it command string? |
| 12:21.47 | Guerin | !unix lessons |
| 12:21.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 12:21.48 | xelam | can you reboot it? |
| 12:21.59 | Guerin | kain_: see less on #10 |
| 12:22.01 | mutante | bni: tried "killall amarok"? |
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| 12:22.03 | xelam | and yes, ssh -v |
| 12:22.04 | kain_ | xelam, no, since it's a remote server |
| 12:22.07 | LinuxMafia | hi all |
| 12:22.11 | LinuxMafia | all :any one knows how can i resize an ext3 partition , without deleting any data? |
| 12:22.18 | xelam | kain_: well I can reboot my reboot server |
| 12:22.18 | syntaxx | when im trying to browse my ntfs file system using my user but it says permission denied how to fix it? |
| 12:22.23 | kain_ | ok, i will try to identify a problem with -vvv |
| 12:22.33 | xelam | sounds like you're screwed if you can't access it |
| 12:22.35 | EdgEy_ | syntaxx put permissions in /etc/fstab |
| 12:22.40 | bni | mutante: yes but doesnt kill everything becouse that only kills all processes having exactly the command amarok |
| 12:22.41 | kain_ | xelam, yep |
| 12:22.54 | Guerin | kain_: it could be something as trivial as a broken postinstall script, which means sshd failed to install. |
| 12:22.55 | kain_ | I'm here just to know if someone else have my problem today on sid |
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| 12:23.05 | EdgEy_ | kain ill upgrade and check |
| 12:23.05 | EdgEy_ | ;) |
| 12:23.09 | kain_ | ghgh |
| 12:23.10 | solemnwarning | Oct 1 13:19:48 rei imaplogin: chdir /vmail/anime12.com/solemnwarning/: Permission denied |
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| 12:23.22 | solemnwarning | why wont courier change uid and gid to access? |
| 12:23.24 | syntaxx | EdgEy_: yeah but i forgot the line that i need to put in there |
| 12:23.28 | Guerin | solemnwarning: #courier |
| 12:23.29 | solemnwarning | i configured it to change uid |
| 12:23.33 | solemnwarning | #courier == dead |
| 12:23.46 | alan_ | are there currently any issues with gcc4? |
| 12:23.58 | EdgEy_ | syntaxx, umask=0222 uid=user gid=group |
| 12:24.03 | alan_ | or is it ok to install it from testing/unstable on a stable system? |
| 12:24.06 | EdgEy_ | should wokr |
| 12:24.08 | EdgEy_ | work |
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| 12:24.13 | Guerin | !they aren't there |
| 12:24.13 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel aren't helping with your non-debian problem , it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 12:24.17 | mutante | bni: kill -9 `ps aux | grep amarok | cut -f2 -d " "` ? |
| 12:24.19 | Guerin | solemnwarning: ^^^ |
| 12:24.39 | bni | mutante: thanks a lot, will try it :-) |
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| 12:25.19 | syntaxx | EdgEy_: should i restart after? |
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| 12:25.40 | Guerin | alan_: don't think it can build kernels prior to 2.6.13 |
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| 12:26.02 | Guerin | alan_: but since you're installing a debian kernel, that won't be an issue. |
| 12:26.05 | EdgEy_ | synax or use mount |
| 12:26.15 | EdgEy_ | i think it's mount -a that mounts according to fstab |
| 12:26.30 | syntaxx | EdgEy_: mounts by my user? |
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| 12:26.43 | alan_ | Guerin: i need it to build my nvidia module... |
| 12:27.02 | Guerin | alan_: you need to build your module with the compiler which was used to build your kernel. |
| 12:27.06 | alan_ | Are there issues with PCI-Express nVidia cards where you need to manually install a new kernel? |
| 12:27.08 | alohomora | i need to upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.13 |
| 12:27.08 | Guerin | !nvidia one-liner |
| 12:27.08 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 12:27.15 | alohomora | can anybody help me |
| 12:27.23 | alan_ | Guerin: i know all about that |
| 12:27.31 | Guerin | ok. |
| 12:27.34 | alan_ | Guerin: and the module says i need gcc4 |
| 12:27.53 | alan_ | Guerin: but the 2.6.12 kernel has an nvidia module already |
| 12:27.59 | alan_ | wondering if that works... |
| 12:28.05 | Guerin | should do |
| 12:29.03 | kain_ | mmm.. no useful info from ssh -v, only connection closed by remote host |
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| 12:29.29 | syntaxx | EdgEy_: is this correct /dev/hda5 /mnt/ntfs auto ro,umask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 |
| 12:29.37 | EdgEy_ | no |
| 12:29.48 | EdgEy_ | uid=user you want, like if your user is syntax make it syntax |
| 12:29.48 | dpy | does anyone here know if there are "Lights Out Management" PCI cards for sale without vendor lock-in solutions (e.g. HP LOM for HP h/w, DELL LOM for DELL h/w) |
| 12:30.01 | syntaxx | ok |
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| 12:30.23 | EdgEy_ | i have uid=efgey,gid=edgey |
| 12:30.24 | EdgEy_ | ;) |
| 12:30.26 | EdgEy_ | edgey( |
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| 12:30.27 | EdgEy_ | blah w/e |
| 12:31.08 | syntaxx | EdgEy_: still having permissiond denied =/ |
| 12:31.29 | mutante | bni: for pid in `ps aux | grep amarok | cut -f2 -d " "`; do kill -9 $pid; done |
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| 12:31.46 | ircops | syntaxx: remount it |
| 12:32.02 | syntaxx | ircops: already did |
| 12:32.03 | EdgEy_ | do mount -a |
| 12:32.17 | syntaxx | i try mount -a -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/ntfs |
| 12:32.30 | ircops | ntfs... yuck |
| 12:32.33 | syntaxx | still having permission denied =/ |
| 12:32.35 | xelam | you don't want -a |
| 12:33.33 | alohomora | i get an err like this "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0). Please append a correct "root=" boot option" |
| 12:33.33 | syntaxx | ack.. still having xelam |
| 12:33.38 | alohomora | any idea |
| 12:34.00 | alohomora | i tried to compile kernel 2.6.13 |
| 12:34.11 | resiak | alohomora: You got your bootloader entry wrong. Why are you building a kernel from source? |
| 12:34.14 | mutante | syntaxx: either just "mount -a" (then it reads from /etc/fstab and you need to add it there) OR .. -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/ntfs |
| 12:34.27 | syntaxx | ok |
| 12:34.38 | alohomora | resiak: i have 915 onboard souncard |
| 12:34.40 | alan_ | Well fuck me sideways with a broom!!! |
| 12:34.43 | syntaxx | there thanks |
| 12:34.51 | imageek | o_0 |
| 12:34.51 | ircops | haha |
| 12:34.52 | alan_ | Built-in, WORKING nvidia support? |
| 12:34.54 | alan_ | :O |
| 12:34.55 | alohomora | and that needs a module from this kernel |
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| 12:35.45 | resiak | alohomora: I see. Read the Debian reference's section on compiling kernels the Debian way. |
| 12:35.48 | xelam | speaking of mounting, is it possible to allow non-root to mount using loopback? e.g. ISO files |
| 12:35.49 | resiak | !tell alohomora -about d-r |
| 12:36.04 | resiak | xelam: Add them to fstab, or do dirty tricks with pmount |
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| 12:36.23 | valdyn | xelam: sure you could simple change permissions on /dev/loopX |
| 12:36.33 | xelam | I can't put them in fstab as it's not specific files |
| 12:36.36 | xelam | valdyn: ah thanks |
| 12:36.38 | bni | mutante: it doesnt work becouse some pids are "32512" and some are " 3245" |
| 12:36.42 | resiak | valdyn: Oh, that works? |
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| 12:36.45 | spear | bye ! |
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| 12:36.55 | valdyn | resiak: yea |
| 12:37.01 | resiak | valdyn: I seeeeeee |
| 12:37.10 | cahoot | xelam: sudo? |
| 12:37.36 | resiak | valdyn: Of course, with udev the permissions will be reset all the time ;) |
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| 12:38.20 | mutante | bni: hmm, how to strip whitespace in bash? in php there would be "trim" |
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| 12:38.32 | resiak | mutante: Pipe it through sed |
| 12:38.57 | mutante | bni: there you go, add another | sed |
| 12:39.08 | bni | ok, thanks |
| 12:39.30 | resiak | bni: Of course, you have to _tell_ sed to strip the whitespace |
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| 12:40.17 | resiak | `| sed` doesn't magically know what y ou want to do :) |
| 12:40.30 | valdyn | xelam: ops, sorry, I mixed something up, its not that simple |
| 12:40.39 | mutante | bni: sed 's/^[ \t]*//' |
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| 12:40.55 | resiak | bni: You're trying to kill all processes that mention amarok, aren't you? |
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| 12:40.55 | mutante | "# delete leading whitespace (spaces, tabs) from front of each line" from http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt (handy sed one-liners) |
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| 12:41.03 | kittenbot | [[:space:]] |
| 12:41.05 | resiak | bni: What's wrong with `killall amarok` or `pkill amarok`? :) |
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| 12:41.28 | mutante | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:43.30 | bni | resiak: killal ldidnt work becouse the process command is not exactly amarok, it has som paths switches etc also so it doesnt finid all processes, however pkill seems to work, thanks |
| 12:43.38 | mutante | bni: are we down to this now? for pid in `ps aux | grep amarok | cut -f2 -d " " | sed 's/^[ \t]*//'`; do kill -9 $pid; done |
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| 12:44.22 | xzu | bni: why don't you just "kill -9 (ps axuww |grep -i amarok | awk '{print $2}')" or am i missing something? |
| 12:44.26 | mutante | if it works you could make it "alias killamarok" or something |
| 12:44.34 | bni | mutante: als works probably but pkill seems to do the job :-) |
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| 12:45.43 | valdyn | xelam: change the permissions on the loopback device you want to use, losetup the disk image, mount the loopbackdevice and have all the loopback devices you intend to use listed in /etc/fstab |
| 12:45.47 | resiak | bni: pkill is wonderful :) |
| 12:45.59 | xzu | uhm s/\(/\`/g |
| 12:46.09 | Althaser | i'm creating partitions and I have sda1 / sda2 / sda3 and when I create one more it give me the sda5 why sda5 and not sda4 ?? please |
| 12:46.48 | valdyn | Althaser: partitions on extended partitions start counting at 5 |
| 12:46.50 | resiak | xelam: You could probably abuse pmount, but I don't know |
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| 12:47.21 | Althaser | valdyn it is normal ? |
| 12:47.28 | valdyn | Althaser: sure |
| 12:47.59 | Althaser | sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 is for OS ? |
| 12:48.05 | Althaser | that's it ? |
| 12:48.09 | Guerin | Althaser: no |
| 12:48.11 | valdyn | Althaser: any partition is for OS |
| 12:48.22 | Guerin | Althaser: you can only have four real partitions |
| 12:48.36 | Guerin | if you want more than four, the fourth real one gets split into many fake ones |
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| 12:48.51 | Guerin | hda1, 2 and 3 would be 'primary' partitions |
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| 12:49.07 | Guerin | hda5,6,7,8,9,etc are called 'locigal' partitions |
| 12:49.12 | Guerin | logical |
| 12:49.13 | Guerin | BAH |
| 12:49.21 | Oliver-BeograD | sorry ppl , what does men WOODY in package name ? |
| 12:49.40 | Althaser | humm oky thanks a lot Guerin and valdyn :D |
| 12:49.42 | valdyn | Oliver-BeograD: that its a package for debian/woody |
| 12:49.47 | Guerin | if you have hda1,2,3 and 4 (four primary partitions) you can't have any logical partitions |
| 12:49.58 | Guerin | Oliver-BeograD: and that it's from security.debian.org |
| 12:50.03 | Oliver-BeograD | MaY I use WOODY package on SARGE debian ? |
| 12:50.08 | Guerin | Oliver-BeograD: no. |
| 12:50.13 | Oliver-BeograD | no ? |
| 12:50.15 | Oliver-BeograD | OOOo GOd |
| 12:50.36 | Guerin | Oliver-BeograD: debian.org/releases explains |
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| 12:51.33 | ZeNiTude | salut |
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| 12:51.56 | Althaser | Guerin got it -:) |
| 12:52.02 | ZeNiTude | hello |
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| 12:52.38 | cahoot | Althaser: it might be outside your need but there are ways/tools to let you create more than 4 primary partitions |
| 12:52.59 | mutante | Althaser: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Partition.html#numbers |
| 12:53.19 | xelam | resiak: k thanks |
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| 12:54.26 | Althaser | cahoot hum ok ;) |
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| 12:56.17 | Althaser | mutante thanks |
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| 12:59.00 | mutante | Althaser: here's another one http://wiki.debian.net/?Partition |
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| 13:00.50 | Althaser | nice |
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| 13:03.05 | ircops | okay this is pissing me off.. I can't get apt to forget about installing a certain package... it's a broken package (unofficial bootsplash) and it's giving dependencies unmet errors on anything I try to install. |
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| 13:04.16 | ircops | wow nm got it... wicked weird |
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| 13:04.35 | ircops | DAH |
| 13:04.36 | laurens_ | hi. |
| 13:04.37 | ircops | no... I didn't get it |
| 13:04.39 | ircops | shit |
| 13:04.52 | laurens_ | I've got several debian boxes. One of them is a file server |
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| 13:05.09 | laurens_ | What's the easiest way to read a pdf on a client that's located on the file server? |
| 13:05.19 | laurens_ | and no, I don't want to copy everytime :P |
| 13:05.23 | ircops | samba |
| 13:05.30 | simonrvn | pdf2txt or such |
| 13:05.30 | Guerin | laurens_: pdftotext |
| 13:05.38 | laurens_ | Guerin: Hm? |
| 13:05.46 | Guerin | ircops: because samba wouldn't require copying |
| 13:05.48 | laurens_ | how does that work? :-) |
| 13:05.58 | Guerin | laurens_: it converts the pdf to text and shows you that |
| 13:06.11 | Guerin | laurens_: no images, layout is sometimes a bit messy, but it does work |
| 13:06.11 | laurens_ | Guerin: And the text can be non-local? |
| 13:06.15 | Guerin | laurens_: sure. |
| 13:06.25 | Guerin | laurens_: it's just text spewed to stdout |
| 13:06.33 | ircops | Guerin: you can open files directly with samba as far as I can remember. |
| 13:06.37 | laurens_ | Guerin: What I really want however, is that I simply feed xpdf a remote link instead of file:///foo |
| 13:06.40 | simonrvn | pipe it to as pager |
| 13:06.47 | simonrvn | s/as/a/ |
| 13:06.48 | Guerin | ircops: and how do they get from there to here? |
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| 13:06.57 | Guerin | laurens_: oh. nfs or samba, then. |
| 13:07.11 | ircops | data transfer... righto |
| 13:07.24 | ircops | nm |
| 13:07.26 | laurens_ | Guerin: and mount the stuff as a samba share? |
| 13:07.30 | laurens_ | samba would be easiest :-) |
| 13:07.58 | ircops | lol |
| 13:07.58 | CAiRO | how can i get sed to only work on the first line of a file? eg if have several files where i want to remove the first character, but sed -e 's/^.//' works on all lines |
| 13:08.00 | ircops | samba's not bad with swat |
| 13:08.01 | Sepero1 | ircops, need help with apt? |
| 13:08.11 | ircops | Sepero1: YES! lol |
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| 13:08.31 | Sepero1 | ircops, PM me |
| 13:08.40 | rutski89 | is there anyway to monitor the ammount of raw data transfered over my NIC? |
| 13:08.47 | simonrvn | no AM me? |
| 13:08.53 | ircops | haha |
| 13:08.55 | kittenbot | CAiRO: Tell it to only operate on the first line :P |
| 13:08.57 | kittenbot | echo -e 'meow\nmeow' | sed 1s/meow/woof/ |
| 13:09.01 | laurens_ | rutski89: sure, plenty :-) where would you like the data to be outputted |
| 13:09.19 | rutski89 | laurens_: into a file would be nice |
| 13:09.29 | CAiRO | kittenbot: ahh, thx |
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| 13:10.04 | Guerin | rutski89: set up a couple of iptables rules and awk the amount out of iptables -L -n -v -x |
| 13:10.29 | Guerin | rutski89: that's the low-tch, low-maintenance way |
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| 13:11.36 | rutski89 | Guerin: can you explain that a bit more? |
| 13:12.01 | Sepero1 | ircops, Are you getting my PM's? |
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| 13:12.31 | Asa | inc|freaky |
| 13:12.31 | simonrvn | probably not registered nor identified |
| 13:12.33 | Asa | ^^ |
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| 13:12.47 | jsn | Could I get a link, or just a quick explanation, of how to flush /var/cache/apt? This machine is quite small. |
| 13:12.57 | faked_ | I want to use an other gcc-version for building a new kernel, how can I do that? |
| 13:12.59 | Guerin | rutski89: iptables -I OUTPUT -j and iptables -I INPUT -j; then you should see a lone which logs the total amount of data in and out |
| 13:12.59 | inc|freaky | Asa: ^^ |
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| 13:13.07 | drac | jsn: HOWTO: apt-get clean |
| 13:13.08 | Guerin | rutski89: run it and see |
| 13:13.13 | jsn | Thanks, drac |
| 13:13.15 | simonrvn | man apt-get, search for (auto-)clean |
| 13:13.26 | Althaser | which diference in 0B W95 FAT32 | 0C W95 FAT32 (LBA) ? please |
| 13:13.48 | rutski89 | iptables -I -j |
| 13:13.48 | rutski89 | ? |
| 13:13.49 | xoz | faked_: use ln -s |
| 13:14.00 | jsn | ciao! |
| 13:14.01 | Sepero1 | apt-get clean |
| 13:14.01 | xoz | faked_: or update-alternatives |
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| 13:14.15 | Henry_Bean | hello, anyone could tell me how to compile a tarball (with the diff, and dsc), downloaded from the package section in the debian.org site, the package doesn't contain any tools/debian folder |
| 13:14.25 | faked_ | xoz: update-alternatives? |
| 13:14.27 | valdyn | Henry_Bean: man dpkg-source |
| 13:14.40 | Sepero1 | apt-get autoclean to only erase outdated packages. |
| 13:14.43 | xoz | faked_: man it |
| 13:14.55 | valdyn | Henry_Bean: or add a deb-src line to /etc/apt/sources.list and use apt-get -b source |
| 13:14.57 | Henry_Bean | valdyn, thanks a lot |
| 13:15.13 | xoz | faked_: but ln -s is much easier |
| 13:15.21 | Sepero1 | Henry_Bean, "apt-get install apt-build" |
| 13:15.30 | faked_ | xoz: ok, thank you for your tip |
| 13:15.33 | valdyn | apt-build is a piece of trash |
| 13:15.40 | ircops | Hello... I am having issues with apt-get... I was originally trying to install an snes emulator, and this is what happened: http://channels.debian.net/paste/819 |
| 13:15.40 | faked_ | xoz: s/tip/help |
| 13:15.46 | Sepero1 | lol |
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| 13:15.59 | Henry_Bean | yeah, thanks, but it's the hunspell lib that it's only in experimental... which is the amd64 experimental repository? |
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| 13:16.42 | Sepero1 | ircops, Did you get my PM? |
| 13:16.51 | valdyn | Henry_Bean: doesnt exist, experimental packages are whatever the maintainer uploads |
| 13:16.59 | valdyn | Henry_Bean: since most use i386 that is most oftenly used |
| 13:17.05 | xoz | faked_: cd /usr/bin/, then ln -s g<whatever version> gcc or g++ |
| 13:17.10 | ircops | Sepero1: no |
| 13:17.29 | faked_ | xoz: ok, thank you |
| 13:17.30 | xoz | faked_: remove the old link if it's present before linking the version you want |
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| 13:17.57 | valdyn | Henry_Bean: sources however are arch independent so a sources line works for any arch and amd64 too |
| 13:18.07 | Sepero1 | ircops, type /join #sepero1 |
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| 13:18.12 | Bluemaengrup | hi together |
| 13:18.28 | Bluemaengrup | dpkg, guidelines |
| 13:18.28 | dpkg | 1) Read the /topic, the FAQ, and google before asking us. 2) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 3) Don't repeat; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 4) Reading docs (man/info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill. Practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots (not the people). See <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood or <paster>, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. |
| 13:18.35 | Bluemaengrup | ohoh |
| 13:18.41 | Bluemaengrup | sorry |
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| 13:20.48 | changwufei | locale just died for me in the last couple of days, im running unstable. all my locale settings are empty when i run it in the console. i have the correct settings in /etc/environment but nothing is being set. any ideas? |
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| 13:21.45 | changwufei | the main reason i need them setting up is cause aspell in gaim is checking everying for en_US and not en_GB which is quite annoying |
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| 13:22.06 | yyp | heloo |
| 13:22.12 | changwufei | hi |
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| 13:28.00 | Benbread[away] | Hey there, i'm about to undertake dual booting Debian (Etch) and XP home, and want to make sure of a couple of things before i go ahead. Firstly: i intend to install XP first (so it doesn't screw up my partition table), and then install Debian - will Grub/Lilo see my Windows partition and auto add to the boot list (also, what partitions should have bootable flags?) and secondly should i write Grub/lilo to the MBR? |
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| 13:28.49 | davis | hello |
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| 13:29.14 | Sepero1 | Benbread, Linux doesn't really acknowlegde partition bootflags anyway. |
| 13:29.22 | cahoot | Benbread: 2 weeks ago I installed sarge for my daughter - installed grub to mbr- no probs dual booting - the installer took care of it all and did it right |
| 13:29.28 | changwufei | Benbread, yes it will |
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| 13:30.02 | Ignacio | hi |
| 13:30.04 | xoz | Benbread: use grub and if the install happens without a hitch, it should be able to add you win partition. grub needs to be installed in MBR but it's not a problem... much better than using lilo. if it cannot detect you XP, you can configure grub to boot XP later. |
| 13:30.06 | Sepero1 | Benbread, Just put the kernels and stuff in the bootloader and it'll take care of the rest. |
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| 13:30.57 | Ignacio | some body can help me? |
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| 13:31.13 | sussudio_ | Ignacio: weasels! |
| 13:31.17 | Benbread | All: Thanks all :D I'll get going now and tell you how I get on (I was a little weary because this is a family machine - i've never had any problems on my machine but i wanted to make sure i was doing everything right :)) |
| 13:31.20 | xelam | that would depend what the problem is :P |
| 13:31.26 | Ignacio | I want add a soucer to my ubuntu |
| 13:31.32 | simonrvn | Ignacio: need to ask your question first |
| 13:31.33 | sussudio_ | !ubuntu |
| 13:31.33 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian> |
| 13:31.34 | Sepero1 | What's your Q Ignacio |
| 13:31.40 | fbi | this isn't #ubuntu. |
| 13:31.58 | Sepero1 | Benbread, goodluck. The adventure awaits. |
| 13:32.08 | Ignacio | i want to add a source in my linux |
| 13:32.15 | sussudio_ | Ignacio: leave |
| 13:32.21 | Ignacio | but the debian source!!! |
| 13:32.23 | simonrvn | badgers, weasels, and 'shrooms, oh my! |
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| 13:32.35 | simonrvn | Ignacio: apt-setup |
| 13:32.43 | Sepero1 | Ignacio, Add it to the file /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:34.03 | Ignacio | but what is the line to add? |
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| 13:34.51 | Ignacio | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted |
| 13:34.51 | Ignacio | deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted |
| 13:34.56 | tam99 | lol sussudio_ |
| 13:34.59 | simonrvn | #ubuntu |
| 13:35.02 | Ignacio | this is the only lines |
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| 13:35.09 | thingfish | man, this guy just doesn't get it, does he. |
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| 13:35.14 | Ignacio | i want to add the debian.org |
| 13:35.21 | simonrvn | no, you don't |
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| 13:35.38 | xoz | want is different possible |
| 13:35.40 | linucks | hey, I was just wondering what the latest version number of debian is |
| 13:35.41 | simonrvn | you won't get debian+ubuntu, you'll get broken |
| 13:35.47 | Sepero1 | Ignacio, all of them? |
| 13:35.56 | Ignacio | yes!!! |
| 13:35.58 | Ignacio | all |
| 13:36.03 | thingfish | linucks: 3.1 |
| 13:36.05 | simonrvn | linucks: www.debian.org |
| 13:36.15 | linucks | yeah I know but.. |
| 13:36.17 | simonrvn | Ignacio: you won't get debian+ubuntu, you'll get broken |
| 13:36.21 | linucks | I can't find where to download it |
| 13:36.21 | thingfish | 3.1r0a, actually. |
| 13:36.23 | linucks | no |
| 13:36.26 | linucks | 3.1r0a is testing |
| 13:36.30 | linucks | I installed it the other day |
| 13:36.30 | Sepero1 | Ignacio, simonrvn is right. Debian and Ubuntu are not very compatible. |
| 13:36.32 | simonrvn | no, stable |
| 13:36.32 | Ignacio | Âż? |
| 13:36.33 | thingfish | no it's not |
| 13:36.36 | linucks | yes it is. |
| 13:36.39 | simonrvn | no, stable |
| 13:36.43 | Ignacio | really? |
| 13:36.45 | linucks | yup |
| 13:36.48 | linucks | I installed it the ohter day |
| 13:36.50 | linucks | it's testing |
| 13:36.51 | Ignacio | ok thanks |
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| 13:36.52 | linucks | I can say that for sure |
| 13:36.57 | simonrvn | Ignacio: yes. b.r.o.k.e.n. |
| 13:37.06 | Ignacio | :( |
| 13:37.07 | thingfish | man, it's *worse* than a sunday in here right now. |
| 13:37.15 | simonrvn | linucks: then go away and get some real info |
| 13:37.24 | Sepero1 | Ignacio, what you need to do is enable Ubuntu "universe" and "multiverse" |
| 13:37.27 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 13:37.30 | linucks | simonrvn, what? I'm trying to find 3.1 |
| 13:37.36 | linucks | simonrvn, but I can't find it anywhere. |
| 13:37.40 | thingfish | *plonk* |
| 13:37.41 | linucks | only 3.1r0a |
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| 13:37.47 | pngwn | Sepero1, ubuntu is off topic in here |
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| 13:38.06 | thingfish | it's stupid to come into a channel and then reject what information you're given. |
| 13:38.07 | foo_s4g | I've got a problem with RAID-1 + Samba. When I delete files via my samba share, the files are re-restored asap. What permissions do I need to set in my.cnf so I can completely delete via samba? |
| 13:38.16 | EdgEy_ | 3.1r0 is sarge |
| 13:38.42 | Althaser | Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed. Reboot to update table. why this ? |
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| 13:38.48 | linucks | excuse the paste: |
| 13:38.50 | linucks | root@bitch:~# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 13:38.50 | linucks | testing/unstable |
| 13:38.54 | linucks | taht's my 3.1r0a box |
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| 13:38.59 | linucks | explain that. |
| 13:39.00 | drac | linucks: no it's not. |
| 13:39.02 | EdgEy_ | r0a probably isn't r0 |
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| 13:39.04 | linucks | wanna bet? |
| 13:39.13 | Benbread | One last thing, what are peoples experiance with the Etch snapshots? I had no problem with Sarge when it was in testing so i'm assuming it shouldn't be too buggy - Has the installer interface dramatically changed? |
| 13:39.14 | drac | sure. |
| 13:39.18 | linucks | Linux bitch 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 15:28:25 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:39.22 | linucks | any way I can check the version number? |
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| 13:39.35 | drac | cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:39.54 | linucks | deb http://debian.mines.inpl-nancy.fr/debian/ testing main con |
| 13:39.57 | linucks | that's one line for example |
| 13:39.59 | drac | testing is Etch |
| 13:40.04 | drac | that's not 3.1 or stable |
| 13:40.05 | EdgEy_ | so you put testing in |
| 13:40.10 | EdgEy_ | thats why it's testing, lol... |
| 13:40.14 | linucks | I pout 3.1r0a on |
| 13:40.18 | linucks | put* |
| 13:40.21 | drac | and upgraded to testing |
| 13:40.25 | EdgEy_ | yep |
| 13:40.25 | linucks | no. |
| 13:40.30 | EdgEy_ | yes. |
| 13:40.32 | drac | version number unknown, codename Etch |
| 13:40.46 | linucks | so how did that work? |
| 13:40.47 | linucks | :o |
| 13:40.51 | linucks | I installed it from http |
| 13:40.55 | linucks | using the cd to boot |
| 13:41.00 | linucks | the 3.1r0a cd. |
| 13:41.06 | linucks | ;o |
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| 13:41.27 | linucks | I may have selected the wrong apt source to install from or something? |
| 13:41.32 | drac | and somewhere you picked testing instead of stable, or that installer was old. |
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| 13:42.14 | dawg | linucks, you chose testing sources so you ended up with testing, simple. |
| 13:42.54 | linucks | thanks |
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| 13:43.09 | dawg | linucks, if you did get 3.1r0a then you have the stable CD though, just a mix up with your sources list |
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| 13:43.55 | valdyn | Benbread: better to use the sarge installer and upgrade to etch. |
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| 13:44.12 | drac | nothing bad about running testing though.. I mean, I wouldn't reinstall cause of that. Specially if it's an desktop machine. |
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| 13:44.39 | simonrvn | *unplonk* |
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| 13:45.20 | quittt | is there a mp3 player that let me listen to my music without stops |
| 13:45.24 | beardy | simonrvn: unplonking what? |
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| 13:45.33 | quittt | a continuous playing |
| 13:45.38 | valdyn | quittt: 'stops' ? |
| 13:45.39 | simonrvn | someone from /ig list |
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| 13:45.55 | dawg | quittt, xmms + xmms-crossfade for example? |
| 13:45.56 | beardy | quittt: Turn on repeat for the entire playlist in your favourite player. |
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| 13:46.21 | beardy | quittt: plus what dawg said. |
| 13:46.23 | resiak | quittt: mpd |
| 13:46.33 | quittt | valdyn, I dont know how to tell this in English... when you change the music there is a little space between the last music and next one |
| 13:46.35 | resiak | beardy, dawg: crossfading is the wrong answer. |
| 13:46.36 | Benbread | OK, the time has come, wish me luck :P - Thanks all for your help :) |
| 13:46.48 | resiak | quittt: mpd. I have tried about 15 players, and it is the _only_ one that does it. |
| 13:46.52 | sepero1 | gl ben_d |
| 13:46.53 | beardy | resiak: Correct us then? |
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| 13:47.00 | sepero1 | gl Benbread |
| 13:47.02 | quittt | resiak, oh |
| 13:47.10 | dawg | resiak, well xmms-crossfade also has gapkiller it doesn't *have* to crossfade the tracks (i use just it's gapkiller myself) |
| 13:47.11 | quittt | resiak, is it great? |
| 13:47.28 | resiak | dawg: Oh, my bad, sorry. I thought it was just "let's overlap the tracks to make there be no silence!!" |
| 13:47.38 | resiak | quittt: Yes, yes it is. Check out gmpc for a client. |
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| 13:47.49 | webfreak | resiak: like some online streams do |
| 13:47.51 | webfreak | resiak: ;( |
| 13:48.14 | resiak | webfreak: gapless playback is one of my pet irritations. :) |
| 13:48.27 | webfreak | resiak: heh, same here |
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| 13:51.40 | linucks | hmm it's 1:51am and it's 9 minutes to 3am :P |
| 13:51.56 | hackeron_ | I've stopped some services to move /var to a different partition, but how do I start all services for the runlevel? -- I tried init 5 but that didnt do anything. |
| 13:52.07 | ke6isf | linucks: Australia? |
| 13:52.14 | linucks | ke6isf, new zealand ;) |
| 13:52.22 | ke6isf | linucks: I was close. =^^= |
| 13:52.31 | solemnwarning | does debian use an older version of bash then other distros? |
| 13:52.37 | asg | hackeron_: 2 is Debian's default runlevel |
| 13:52.44 | webfreak | nz is purdy. i'd like to go there someday. |
| 13:52.52 | ke6isf | solemnwarning: Not really, but bash3 is there if you want bash3. |
| 13:52.55 | linucks | ke6isf, hehe ;) |
| 13:52.57 | hackeron_ | asg: well, init 2 doesnt do anything either |
| 13:52.58 | asg | solemnwarning: which version of debian are you talking about? |
| 13:53.01 | linucks | webfreak, thank you |
| 13:53.08 | webfreak | linucks: :) |
| 13:53.11 | solemnwarning | becase on debian if i log into root it get systemname:~# |
| 13:53.15 | ke6isf | !runlevels |
| 13:53.15 | dpkg | read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d, or if you don't understand that, consider installing 'rcconf' or 'file-rc' instead, |
| 13:53.27 | solemnwarning | on other distros i get root@systemname:~# |
| 13:53.32 | sepero1 | /etc/init.d/rc 5 |
| 13:53.39 | solemnwarning | asg: sarge |
| 13:53.43 | asg | hackeron_: if you manually stopped services, you are probably still in runlevel 2. What does runlevel say |
| 13:53.47 | asg | !info bash sarge |
| 13:53.47 | webfreak | solemnwarning: it just has a different default prompt |
| 13:53.50 | resiak | solemnwarning: Why do you need root@ when you have the # to tell you that already? |
| 13:53.55 | solemnwarning | lol |
| 13:53.56 | hackeron_ | sepero1: ah, thanks |
| 13:53.58 | dpkg | bash: (The GNU Bourne Again SHell), section base, is required. Version: 2.05b-26 (sarge), Packaged size: 611 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB |
| 13:53.58 | quittt | dawg, I installed xmms-crossfade... where is the damn plugin |
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| 13:54.04 | ramzez | hello people |
| 13:54.08 | solemnwarning | was just wondering why its printed diff in deb |
| 13:54.10 | ke6isf | solemnwarning: the # is an indicator as root, 'root@' is a redundancy. |
| 13:54.13 | sepero1 | hackeron_, welcome ;) |
| 13:54.14 | asg | !info bash3 sarge |
| 13:54.16 | dpkg | bash3: (The GNU Bourne Again SHell (Version 3)), section shells, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (sarge), Packaged size: 662 kB, Installed size: 1200 kB |
| 13:54.16 | webfreak | solemnwarning: bash --version |
| 13:54.17 | hackeron_ | asg: /etc/init.d/rc 2 worked :) |
| 13:54.25 | ke6isf | solemnwarning: If you want it different, change it in bashrc. |
| 13:54.29 | webfreak | spewing out bash info bits isn't really necessary. |
| 13:54.29 | dawg | quittt, audio I/O plugins, it's an output plugin on that screen |
| 13:54.30 | asg | hackeron_: *nod* |
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| 13:54.47 | sepero1 | hackeron_, had that problem myself a few times b4. Mainly with a chroot enviro. |
| 13:54.49 | asg | webfreak: it was in response to a question and is entirely relevant |
| 13:55.06 | quittt | what is its name? |
| 13:55.09 | ramzez | do you know how I could remove an extension (always the same, .part) from several files in one time ? I try with the command find : I know how to add an extension but I don't know how to remove one |
| 13:55.10 | hackeron_ | sepero1: well, no chroot here, but oh well :) |
| 13:55.14 | quittt | dawg, I just cant find it |
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| 13:55.18 | webfreak | asg: right, you could also have them sent to the user via query instead of in here :) |
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| 13:55.42 | asg | webfreak: of course but channel traffic is light at the moment; had it been heavier, I would have, of course. |
| 13:55.50 | webfreak | asg: *nod* |
| 13:56.27 | quittt | found it da |
| 13:56.29 | quittt | dawg, |
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| 13:58.01 | dawg | quittt, play with the values a bit, the defaults aren't great iirc |
| 13:58.32 | quittt | ahh |
| 13:58.38 | quittt | what a stupid way to kill gap |
| 13:58.51 | quittt | it starts the next music before it finishes |
| 13:59.10 | vipercokkies_ | sorry, not lenguage inglish, my problem is http://www.esdebian.org/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=10&showtopic=51950 |
| 13:59.21 | kittenbot | ramir3z_: man rename |
| 13:59.21 | ke6isf | !es |
| 13:59.21 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:59.31 | davis | which lame should i install? toolame? |
| 13:59.53 | vipercokkies_ | ok |
| 14:00.01 | vipercokkies_ | gracias, tanks |
| 14:00.07 | kittenbot | ramir3z_: Sorry you, I meant ramzez :P |
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| 14:00.44 | ke6isf | vipercokkies_: Good luck. |
| 14:01.05 | ramzez | kittenbot: thanks, I look at rename ;) |
| 14:01.13 | quittt | dawg, I want only that I said to you |
| 14:01.19 | quittt | no damn crossfader |
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| 14:01.40 | davis | i am trying to use abcde to convert ogg to mp3 |
| 14:01.51 | davis | it complains that lame is not in my path |
| 14:02.00 | davis | i have installed toolame and glame. |
| 14:02.15 | ke6isf | !tell davis -about enter |
| 14:02.15 | quittt | well I think resiak is better |
| 14:02.17 | dawg | quittt, just uncheck the boxes on the crossfader tab with "enable" on them and enable gap killer |
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| 14:03.36 | ke6isf | davis: 'apt-get install lame' then. |
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| 14:03.45 | dawg | quittt, or change the type to none, which is probably better in some interal way or something *shrugs* |
| 14:04.21 | quittt | dawg, you cant change the time of the music while you play it |
| 14:04.22 | davis | does not exist. its either glame or toolame. |
| 14:04.42 | ke6isf | davis: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 14:04.51 | asg | davis: marillat provides lame debs (/msg dpkg marillat) |
| 14:04.52 | dawg | quittt, change the time of the music? I don't understand |
| 14:05.07 | ke6isf | !tell davis -about marillat |
| 14:05.11 | ma3x | hello |
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| 14:05.18 | quittt | dawg, when you play it move the playing bar to other time in the music |
| 14:05.20 | quittt | it doesnt work |
| 14:05.26 | ma3x | can you explain me if I buy a TV card, can I watch tv? |
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| 14:05.39 | pumpkin0 | ma3x: sure |
| 14:05.45 | dawg | quittt, it works just fine for me |
| 14:05.48 | ruwen | hi |
| 14:05.53 | ma3x | pumpkin0, but should I connect it to antenna, or how? |
| 14:06.03 | sepero1 | I thought Tv cards were for listening to the radio...? ;) |
| 14:06.19 | ruwen | is there atm a exploit for ssh? |
| 14:06.35 | quittt | dawg, it takes time to work |
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| 14:06.40 | quittt | tell me dawg |
| 14:06.42 | Krupz_ | hi |
| 14:06.46 | quittt | help me to configure like yours |
| 14:06.54 | pumpkin0 | ma3x: well.... you wil need some kind of antenna. What is available at your site ? |
| 14:07.05 | hate29 | pumpkin0: Which tv card do you have? I have pinnacle pctv stereo and can't make it work. |
| 14:07.09 | asg | ruwen: there hasn't been a DSA for one |
| 14:07.34 | asg | ruwen: that doesn't mean there isn't one, just that if there is, Debian's security team hasn't mentioned it. |
| 14:07.46 | ma3x | pumpkin0, I have nothing. I want to buy this card with antenna http://www.neckermann.de/index1.mb1?mb_f020_id=Go48HpNvyfes12E7lBlpN1PjLHWQjja9&vkh=0416&linktracking_nr=ufjyr5kOYxK5q6S-4F_4t-sLPDaPLQ8&p_id=10500067&nav_id=10279231&mb_v301_ch=8a242 |
| 14:07.47 | pumpkin0 | hate29: something with a bt848-chip. I think it was from haupage... |
| 14:07.55 | quittt | dawg, tell me how all parts of your crossfade configuration |
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| 14:08.02 | quittt | dawg, pvt |
| 14:08.34 | hate29 | pumpkin0: ok, can you give any advice? tvtime gives video but no sound.. |
| 14:08.42 | pumpkin0 | ma3x: germany ? You have a problem. DVB-T is a exotic, not-so-well-working system |
| 14:08.51 | dawg | quittt, it's instant for me. I use the alsa output plugin with it (default settings there), no effects, crossfader/transition set to none, gap killer 1000ms 512 level with trailing locked to leading and that's really about it |
| 14:09.22 | pumpkin0 | hate29: have you tried to connect headphones to the audio jack of the tv-card ? |
| 14:09.23 | dawg | quittt, i've hardly changed a thing except turning crossfading off as far as i can tell |
| 14:10.12 | pumpkin0 | ma3x: that is a PCMCIA-card. That's asking for trouble. |
| 14:10.40 | hate29 | pumpkin0: yes. it only gives the same sound when tv has no picture at all, if you know what i mean.. |
| 14:11.25 | ma3x | pumpkin0, so how can I watch tv on my laptop in germany? |
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| 14:11.35 | pumpkin0 | hate29: what chip does the pinnacle use ? |
| 14:11.54 | fbi | jesus |
| 14:12.00 | fbi | what are you doing |
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| 14:12.14 | Sepero1 | jesus is now know as satan |
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| 14:12.58 | pumpkin0 | ma3x: The german wy of implementing DVB-T is very, very special. I don't think it will be supported in linux for a long time. But try the german debian-channel, they may know more |
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| 14:13.28 | davis | asg: hmm. i tried to apt-get update with the ftp.nerim.net update for marillat but it says the public key is not available. Is there a way to access the packages without trying to authenticate them or something? |
| 14:13.41 | hate29 | pumpkin0: im not sure.. not know much of tv cards. |
| 14:13.59 | drac | davis: or what about if you read first lines in http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html |
| 14:14.36 | drac | davis: sorry, nevermind. it's been removed from that page. ;( |
| 14:14.52 | pumpkin0 | hate29: there are 2 ways to get sound working: get a digital copy of the audio-stream from the card and put it into the sound-system. Or connecting the audio-jack to the in-line (soundcard) and switching the in-line on and off at the right times. |
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| 14:15.22 | pumpkin0 | hate29: the frst way is working via btaudio, the 2. can be forced via aumix |
| 14:15.27 | davis | yah i was looking i didnt see anything. it just has boxes which say what to add in your sources.list depending upon which version or arch you are using. |
| 14:15.43 | hate29 | pumpkin0: ok, i try |
| 14:16.14 | asg | davis: /msg dpkg marillat key |
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| 14:18.40 | klaus | hello everyone |
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| 14:19.06 | quittt | dawg, it is pretty laggy when I change the music |
| 14:19.41 | asg | davis: the key is down near the bottom of the page |
| 14:20.14 | davis | im looking but i dont see it. |
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| 14:20.38 | dawg | quittt, i've not had that, maybe you should increase the size of the buffer or try a different output plugin |
| 14:20.52 | quittt | my outplugin is alsa |
| 14:21.02 | davis | there is a gpg key link for the ppc repository. is that the one? |
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| 14:21.20 | klaus | i've got a kind of tricky sarge boot problem, kernel 2.6.13.1 |
| 14:21.31 | klaus | can anybody help me? |
| 14:21.57 | paivakil | klaus: ask |
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| 14:22.37 | klaus | Gokee2: i'm at moving things to LVM2, but my root out of LVM; |
| 14:23.28 | klaus | i did copy my root fs to another disk partition, and when i try to boot with this new root fs, i get the following errors: |
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| 14:23.54 | Trewas | ma3x: btw there are usb dvb-t devices, at least some of them work in linux |
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| 14:24.09 | useruser | is ftp.us.debian.org down? |
| 14:24.33 | dvs | useruser: security.debian.org is damn slow |
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| 14:24.59 | klaus | my root fs seems to be ro, and /dev/ devices cannot be created; there's also a weird message saying "devfs: unknown filesys" though i'm running udev |
| 14:25.01 | pumpkin0 | Trewas: the german DVB-T is using another standard then the rest of the world. Are you sure these usb's are OK with that signal ? |
| 14:25.18 | ebrooks | hi. i was wondering if this was the right place to get soem help with a printer install issue???? |
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| 14:25.45 | pumpkin0 | ebrooks: sure. What printer is it ? |
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| 14:27.01 | ebrooks | thanks pumpkin0. its an epson stylus cx6400. I installed it throught the cups browser interface. gimp can print to it using lp -s -DCX6400 -oraw but nothing else prints to it, and if you take the oraw off gimp won't print either |
| 14:27.25 | Trewas | pumpkin0: no, I assumed that dvb-t is close enough the same everywhere... though I'd guess that germany is large enough to have their own standard and probably all kinds of devices using it |
| 14:27.29 | Anthro | So I'm trying to install on a Dell Latitude D810. It can't detect my HD. I believe it doesn't have the driver for the IDE controller, but because the available shell doesn't have lspci I don't know what the IDE controller actually is. BTW, I'm using the expert26 install. |
| 14:28.10 | paivakil | ebrooks: is cupsys-bsd installed? |
| 14:29.00 | ebrooks | pumpkin0: dselect reports it as installed. |
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| 14:30.14 | paivakil | ebrooks: what about cupsys-client? |
| 14:30.15 | smacnay | Which packages does one need to install a .deb kernel from the sources? The kernel-image and kernel-headers? |
| 14:30.24 | dvs | Anthro: Do you at least know what chipset it uses? |
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| 14:30.35 | pumpkin0 | ebrooks: epson is a bit strange and that printer is even for epson-standards stranger... which kernel are you using ? |
| 14:30.43 | Anthro | dvs: Nope. I don't have any way to tell from within the installer, it seems. |
| 14:30.48 | dvs | smacnay: kernel-package |
| 14:30.59 | dvs | Anthro: From the documentation? |
| 14:31.27 | ebrooks | pumpkin0: cupsys-client is reported intalled. i reinstalled them both anyway. |
| 14:31.29 | Anthro | dvs: I was hoping to avoid aborting the install and booting with knoppix or something to check. And I have no documentation. This laptop was issued by my work. |
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| 14:32.05 | dvs | Anthro: I'd do the Knoppix thing so you can see what everything is. |
| 14:32.08 | pumpkin0 | ebrooks: have you followed this: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_CX6400 |
| 14:32.12 | klaus | sorry, maybe i should type everything on one line: my problem is: after having copied my root fs do another disk partition, and trying to boot from this with the same 2.6.13.1 kernel, the root fs seems to be ro, at least there are messages saying: "unable to create /dev/console: read-only filesystem". I tried with grub, lilo, and alot of options to get the root fs rw, but the problem seems to be related to udev - devfs, the latter one |
| 14:32.53 | ebrooks | pumpkin0: i didn't follow that link. i'll take a look. thanks. |
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| 14:32.58 | pumpkin0 | klaus: what config-lines are you using in grub ? |
| 14:33.09 | EfaistOs | hi |
| 14:33.09 | neko | hello? |
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| 14:33.25 | EfaistOs | is it possible to load windows xp on a dual boot if its on hdb ? |
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| 14:33.34 | Anthro | dvs: So the other worrisome thing is that I tried loading each of the modules in /lib/modules/2.6.8-1-386/kernel/drivers/ide/pci and it didn't help. |
| 14:33.35 | dvs | EfaistOs: no. |
| 14:33.49 | EfaistOs | dvs, it must be on hda1 ? |
| 14:33.53 | pumpkin0 | efaist0s: sure. What bootmanager are you using ? |
| 14:33.59 | dvs | EfaistOs: It must be hda1-4 |
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| 14:34.05 | useruser | dvs: yes, but ftp.us.debian.org doesn't respond at all for me |
| 14:34.05 | EfaistOs | grub |
| 14:34.06 | ke6isf | neko: Hi. We're not here right now. Please leave a message at the tone. *BEEEEEP* |
| 14:34.10 | dvs | Anders: Is it a new laptop? |
| 14:34.11 | Sepero1 | dvs: I thought it was. |
| 14:34.19 | EfaistOs | pumpkin0, grub |
| 14:34.23 | neko | ke6isf, ? |
| 14:34.25 | Anthro | dvs: I assume that was directed at me. Yes, quite new. |
| 14:34.28 | Sepero1 | XP is based on the nt kern |
| 14:34.31 | pumpkin0 | efaist0s: wait a sec... |
| 14:34.39 | useruser | dvs: neither does ftp.debian.org |
| 14:34.42 | ke6isf | neko: Being silly, don't mind me. =^_^= |
| 14:34.49 | dvs | Anders: The kernel in debian probably doesn't recognize it yet. |
| 14:34.51 | ke6isf | hmm, time to get the bus. |
| 14:34.56 | klaus | i hope this can be read here: title Debian GNU/Linux k2.6.13.1 LVM;root (hd0,0);kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.13.1 root=/dev/hda1;initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.13.1;savedefault;boot; |
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| 14:35.04 | Anthro | useruser: Yes, I had the same problem. I'm using mirrors.kernel.org |
| 14:35.09 | takatumi | Anthro: there are a few installs of 810s here, http://tuxmobil.org/dell.html |
| 14:35.21 | useruser | Anthro: i'm going transatlantic :) |
| 14:35.36 | Anthro | useruser: In that case, use ftp.de.debian.org or something. |
| 14:35.53 | curt | i installed win200 yesterday as a backup, I had an infestation of viruses and spyware in munites after connecting the internet.... |
| 14:35.56 | pumpkin0 | efaist0s: follow this guide: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html#ss2.3 |
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| 14:36.12 | neko | Sepero1, no,xp is based on "mouth" |
| 14:36.12 | neko | Sepero1, the mouth kernel |
| 14:36.13 | neko | >^_^< |
| 14:36.27 | Anthro | takatumi: Ah, thanks. Given that I'm dealing with just an ssh connection, could you tell me how they dealt with the IDE controller? |
| 14:36.29 | EfaistOs | pumpkin0, thnaks i gonna see what's is this about .... |
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| 14:36.48 | curt | not really a question but thought that it was interesting as I have yet to see anything like that in linux |
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| 14:37.15 | Sepero1 | EfaistOs: search "xp hdb" on google |
| 14:37.41 | pumpkin0 | klaus: i think your kernel and/or your initrf is missing the LVM-modules. have you recreated initrd with mkinitrd ? |
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| 14:39.50 | takatumi | Anthro: one of them mentioned problems with 2.6, installed 2.4 and then upgrade, the rest seem to be pretty straight forward. |
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| 14:40.16 | klaus | in fact, i did not: my root partition is ext3 not managed by LVM, and the kernel panics very early when setting up devices - LVM is out of sight at that time. I also did try to omit the initrd image from booting, but did see no difference. |
| 14:40.25 | pumpkin0 | curt: that's kind of normal. w/o NAT or firewall windows is f**k-up within minutes. |
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| 14:41.00 | simonrvn | yeh, if those things aren't behind a well set up gateway, they're toast |
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| 14:41.15 | curt | ya I knew that but really over 50 spyware and 400 registery hacks and 5 or 6 malware in one hour |
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| 14:41.45 | simonrvn | i know one guy he'd installed winxp, and the SPs, and he'd gotten taken over in 15 minutes. on dial-up |
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| 14:42.11 | Sepero1 | simonrvn: lol |
| 14:42.15 | simonrvn | i don't remember the number of crapware he got |
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| 14:42.28 | curt | i do have a real question here in a bit |
| 14:42.28 | pumpkin0 | klaus: change that. i think your kernel cannot mount a initrd-image and crashing on that. |
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| 14:42.54 | Sepero1 | simonrvn: It's tough being a Linux fan on 56k. ;) |
| 14:43.12 | simonrvn | heh, esp. on sid ;) |
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| 14:43.17 | Zugschlus | Sepero1: it is touch to be _anything_ on 56K |
| 14:43.25 | Zugschlus | tough |
| 14:43.44 | Sepero1 | I'm on 56k |
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| 14:44.02 | Sepero1 | I'm trying to apt-get update right now. :) |
| 14:44.13 | dvs | Sepero1: How many days? ;-) |
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| 14:44.39 | smacnay | Is gcc 4.0 in testing borked atm? |
| 14:44.50 | Sepero1 | Up until recently I've been trying to hold out by staying on Sarge |
| 14:44.52 | klaus | ok, i'll give it a try! thanks a lot for helping me - that's another reason why I DID switch form Windose XP to sarge ;-) |
| 14:44.53 | pumpkin0 | curt: for more information: http://isc.sans.org/survivalhistory.php |
| 14:44.56 | smacnay | I cannot run make menuconfig in /usr/src/kernel-source.XX |
| 14:45.19 | pumpkin0 | smacnay: what about make xconfig ? |
| 14:45.20 | resiak | !faq smacnay |
| 14:45.21 | dpkg | smacnay: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:45.21 | simonrvn | libncurses5-dev |
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| 14:49.59 | aliumalik | is there any way I can use 'tahoma bold' font when 'tahoma' is bold instead of making 'tahoma' bold? I know sounds kinda confusing :P |
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| 14:50.15 | simonrvn | CSS? |
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| 14:50.26 | simonrvn | 'tahoma bold' |
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| 14:51.16 | simonrvn | or just font: "medium bold tahoma, serif" (i think it's a serif?) |
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| 14:51.36 | simonrvn | err |
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| 14:51.46 | ircops | rre |
| 14:51.47 | simonrvn | "font: medium bold tahoma, serif" |
| 14:51.49 | thingfish | tahoma is sans-serif |
| 14:51.53 | simonrvn | ok |
| 14:51.58 | aliumalik | simonrvn, not when making webpages but when reading them |
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| 14:51.59 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 14:52.22 | simonrvn | use a client style sheet |
| 14:52.29 | Punko | hi everybody |
| 14:52.31 | Punko | have a problem with gcc |
| 14:52.32 | Punko | checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no |
| 14:52.33 | aliumalik | the problem is when xfs applies faux bold to tahoma the effect is kinda rough :P |
| 14:52.35 | Punko | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 14:52.36 | simonrvn | a lot of modern browsers support that |
| 14:52.54 | simonrvn | Punko: please don't paste here |
| 14:53.02 | thingfish | !faq Punko |
| 14:53.03 | dpkg | Punko: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:53.03 | Punko | i`m sorry |
| 14:53.05 | simonrvn | !b-e Punko |
| 14:53.06 | dpkg | Punko: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 14:53.26 | tarzeau | simonrvn: a lot of other modern browsers don't support that |
| 14:53.44 | simonrvn | i know. like 99% of the text browsers ;p |
| 14:54.02 | tarzeau | simonrvn: there's at least two graphical browsers that don't support it either, that come to my mind |
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| 14:54.13 | tarzeau | simonrvn: one more if we count non-free ones |
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| 14:55.41 | Terra-Niux | Hello, how can I update my version of MySQL through apt-get? |
| 14:55.41 | scanwinder | ive got a weird problem where i cant seem to get two pcmcia cards to work at the same time........its always just one or the other |
| 14:55.44 | dvs | Terra-Niux: update to what version? |
| 14:55.48 | Terra-Niux | 4.1 |
| 14:55.51 | scanwinder | anyone know what may cause that? |
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| 14:55.59 | dvs | !info mysql sarge |
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| 14:56.18 | lord_rob | hi ! I've fux0red my mbr, and I'd like to put grub back on it. I have no floppy drive, how can I fix the problem ? |
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| 14:56.36 | Terra-Niux | lord_rob put the CD in you used to install |
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| 14:56.40 | tarzeau | lord_rob: cdrom drive? netboot? |
| 14:56.41 | Terra-Niux | there should be option to install grub |
| 14:56.47 | lord_rob | cdrom drive |
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| 14:56.52 | Terra-Niux | without installing anything else |
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| 14:57.03 | thingfish | also, grub-install should already be on your drive, if you're booted. |
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| 14:57.10 | lord_rob | isn't there a debian rescue cd, like there was with old woody install cd ? |
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| 14:57.40 | sanxiyn | Is packages.debian.org down? |
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| 14:58.15 | soldier_tyrkey | HÝ |
| 14:58.18 | soldier_tyrkey | HEYYYYY |
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| 14:58.27 | soldier_tyrkey | CHANNEL |
| 14:58.30 | tarzeau | sanxiyn: yes |
| 14:58.35 | soldier_tyrkey | EVERBADY HÝÝ :) |
| 14:58.38 | thingfish | sanxiyn: seems to be here |
| 14:58.47 | soldier_tyrkey | <thingfish> HÝÝ |
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| 14:58.57 | dvs | soldier_tyrkey: Do you acutally have a question? |
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| 14:59.37 | soldier_tyrkey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:59.44 | soldier_tyrkey | ým turkey |
| 14:59.44 | soldier_tyrkey | you |
| 14:59.45 | soldier_tyrkey | ? |
| 14:59.48 | ircops | no |
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| 14:59.53 | tarzeau | soldier_tyrkey: #debian.tr |
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| 15:00.11 | sanxiyn | !tr |
| 15:00.19 | dpkg | trke yardm iin #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 15:00.19 | soldier_tyrkey | debian city ??? |
| 15:00.24 | tarzeau | dpkg forget tr |
| 15:00.24 | dpkg | i forgot tr, tarzeau |
| 15:00.40 | tarzeau | dpkg tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 15:00.40 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 15:00.44 | sanxiyn | tarzeau: Ah, you were from Turkey. |
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| 15:02.03 | t0mas | hm |
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| 15:02.23 | t0mas | is there some-one around with knowledge about the setup boot procedure? |
| 15:02.31 | t0mas | I have some sort of bug I think |
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| 15:02.39 | t0mas | checked the md5 of my .iso |
| 15:02.39 | ircops | !someone |
| 15:02.39 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 15:02.57 | ircops | hmm not what I expected |
| 15:03.07 | t0mas | ok, problem: sarge install doesn't boot |
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| 15:03.22 | ircops | that's very vague |
| 15:03.24 | tarzeau | t0mas: i386? |
| 15:03.24 | t0mas | it comes up with a boot prompt, there I have chosen linux26, linux and expert26 |
| 15:03.27 | t0mas | neither of em worked |
| 15:03.31 | t0mas | yes i386 |
| 15:03.31 | tarzeau | t0mas: then it boots |
| 15:03.33 | t0mas | (celeron 400) |
| 15:03.44 | t0mas | it starts loading /install/vmlinuz |
| 15:03.46 | tarzeau | t0mas: where does it hang exactly? |
| 15:03.47 | t0mas | and it hangs there |
| 15:03.55 | t0mas | with the 2.6 versions |
| 15:04.05 | tarzeau | t0mas: did you check if the cd iso image you downloaded was ok? and the burned cd too? |
| 15:04.07 | t0mas | the normal one comes to loading /install/initrd... and stops there |
| 15:04.18 | t0mas | yes, I've checked the md5 of the iso |
| 15:04.24 | tarzeau | t0mas: does any other cd boot on that? |
| 15:04.30 | t0mas | yes |
| 15:04.33 | t0mas | gentoo live cd boots |
| 15:04.42 | alohomora | can anybody say how to upgrade kernel2.6.8 to 2.6.13? |
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| 15:04.49 | sanxiyn | Hm, linux26 hangs while "Okay, loading /install/vmlinuz (many dots)", and plain linux get to initrd? |
| 15:04.56 | t0mas | yes |
| 15:05.01 | dvs | alohomora: for sarge, you have to compile it yourself |
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| 15:05.04 | tarzeau | alohomora: apt-cache search kernel image 2.6.13 ? then apt-get install the right one? |
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| 15:05.15 | t0mas | plain linux hangs on loading /install/initrd and then 4 to 8 dots |
| 15:05.21 | Thanatermesis | any way for look with "apt" the reason of one package not are posible to install ? |
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| 15:05.36 | tarzeau | Thanatermesis: apt-get will tell you |
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| 15:05.43 | t0mas | so I assumed it has something todo with the size? |
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| 15:05.51 | sanxiyn | t0mas: No idea. |
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| 15:05.55 | t0mas | plain linux's /install/vmlinuz is smaller? |
| 15:06.05 | alohomora | tarzeau: i have Intel 915 motherboard. 2.6.8 doesnt support its onboard sound card |
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| 15:06.09 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, for example tarzeau , xine-ui not is installable in debian testing (dont exists) |
| 15:06.19 | t0mas | I think it hangs after loading X mb |
| 15:06.23 | tarzeau | Mortalman: 3,5" 1,44mb? |
| 15:06.23 | sanxiyn | alohomora: Which distribution of Debian are you using? |
| 15:06.24 | t0mas | but I can't test that |
| 15:06.28 | alohomora | can i do an apt-get install to kernel 2.6.13 |
| 15:06.32 | Mortalman | tarzeau: yep. |
| 15:06.34 | t0mas | some ideas on what's wrong there? |
| 15:06.35 | tarzeau | Thanatermesis: so? |
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| 15:06.38 | tarzeau | Thanatermesis: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 15:06.42 | sanxiyn | t0ffel: No idea. |
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| 15:06.55 | sanxiyn | Eh, was to t0mas. |
| 15:06.56 | alohomora | sanxiyn: i use debian 3.1 sarge |
| 15:07.05 | tarzeau | alohomora: debian sarge doesn't have that kernel |
| 15:07.08 | t0mas | :( |
| 15:07.10 | sanxiyn | alohomora: You can compile one. |
| 15:07.15 | tarzeau | alohomora: and it's not likely to get it, so you'll have to do it yourself or leave it |
| 15:07.23 | tarzeau | sanxiyn: i'm not sure, if he can |
| 15:07.24 | Thanatermesis | sid ? :/ |
| 15:07.24 | alohomora | sanxiyn: i had probs while doing that |
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| 15:07.29 | tarzeau | sanxiyn: can you? |
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| 15:07.40 | t0mas | hm... is there a download link to sarge bootfloppys? |
| 15:07.45 | takatumi | t0mas: if nothing else works, try debootstrap from the gentoo live cd. |
| 15:07.46 | t0mas | for a 2.6 kernel :) |
| 15:07.53 | tarzeau | sanxiyn: i can give you a 2.4.31 one if you want |
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| 15:08.07 | t0mas | takatumi: is there some manual for debootstrap? |
| 15:08.14 | sanxiyn | tarzeau: Thanks but no thanks. |
| 15:08.18 | t0mas | I've seen it mentioned before... but I don't know how it works |
| 15:09.01 | Mortalman | Anyone know whether it was the floppy interface or if it was the drives that limited floppies so much ? I mean, why isn't there other media for the floppy interface on the motherboard? |
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| 15:09.05 | groton | hello all |
| 15:09.13 | takatumi | t0mas: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
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| 15:09.22 | t0mas | tnx |
| 15:09.35 | dvs | Mortalman: Mainly because it's dead slow by today's standards |
| 15:09.45 | groton | how to test sound? i recompiled the kernel to get sound support, i added ALSA support indeed, and all the sound programs runs just fine, but i cant hear nothing :) any hint? |
| 15:09.47 | sanxiyn | debootstrap sarge /sarge |
| 15:09.51 | sanxiyn | chroot |
| 15:10.11 | Mortalman | dvs: How slow we talking? Transfering a 23kb letter doesn't take too long. |
| 15:10.12 | dvs | Mortalman: The only other device that I can think of that worked on a floppy drive was some tape drives. |
| 15:10.20 | sanxiyn | groton: You don't have zero volume? |
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| 15:10.36 | dvs | Morph: 500 kilobits a second |
| 15:10.41 | groton | no, alsaplayer shows it at 100% |
| 15:11.15 | dvs | groogs: alsamixergui |
| 15:11.21 | dvs | groton: alsamixergui |
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| 15:11.36 | groton | dvs, i have only alsamixer |
| 15:11.54 | dvs | groton: That'll do. Unmute the channels. |
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| 15:12.24 | scanwinder | On my laptop, in debian, it seems only one of my pcmcia devices will work at a time - i cant get two cards to work at once, if i have two in, only 1 works................anyone have any ideas on what might cause that? or what i should do to try and get the problem resolved |
| 15:12.25 | scanwinder | ? |
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| 15:12.32 | ibob | Hi, I would like to ask about USB sticks and linux support. In some e-shops I see that some support Win only and others Win and 2.4 kernel and up. Is this true? |
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| 15:12.48 | ibob | How about debian? |
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| 15:12.53 | curt | ls |
| 15:13.20 | groton | dvs, still nothing :\ |
| 15:13.35 | azeem | ibob: USB sticks are usually supported by Linux, as usb-storage devices |
| 15:14.27 | ibob | I thought that too... I was just surprised bu that specific note... |
| 15:14.46 | dvs | groton: Did you compile the snd_pcm_oss module into the kernel. |
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| 15:15.04 | pumpkin0 | ibob: there are USB-stick with additional feat. liek encryption... these need windows |
| 15:15.06 | groton | maybe not, should it be in lsmod? |
| 15:15.07 | azeem | ibob: well, they don't know better. Product description of random hardware is rarely accurate when it comes to Linux support |
| 15:15.17 | ma3x | one question: why when I max. my PCM volume, I get bad sound in the high tones? |
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| 15:15.26 | dvs | groton: If you compiled it as a module, yes. |
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| 15:15.56 | groton | dvs, IIRC, i compiled alsa with *s, ie not as modules |
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| 15:16.37 | pumpkin0 | ma3x: not-so-hifi soundcard ? most consumer-cards don't do all tones in all volumes ... |
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| 15:16.50 | dvs | groton: There are many sections to alsa. Did you compile that option as a module or in the kernel (or at all) |
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| 15:17.06 | groton | dvs, now i check |
| 15:17.30 | ibob | Ok, thanks a lot! |
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| 15:18.35 | groton | dvs, it should be compiled in the kernel, i.e. <*> OSS PCM API |
| 15:18.39 | dvs | groton: It's called OSS PCM (digital audio) API |
| 15:18.43 | Thanatermesis | the repositories of debian are down ? im not posible to connect.. |
| 15:18.48 | groton | dvs, exactly, it is in the kernel |
| 15:18.56 | thingfish | yeah, seems so, Thanatermesis, at least here. |
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| 15:19.17 | dvs | groton: Are you part of the audio group? |
| 15:19.24 | groton | maybe not! lemmecheck |
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| 15:19.30 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, strange... any person knows why ? |
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| 15:19.44 | sanxiyn | Thanatermesis: Which Debian website? |
| 15:19.51 | groton | dvs, yes, i am 29(audio) |
| 15:19.53 | sanxiyn | Thanatermesis: It seems that packages.debian.org is indeed down. |
| 15:20.00 | ircops | hmmm |
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| 15:20.22 | thingfish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:20.28 | pumpkin0 | Thanatermesis: use a mirror.... any of the >> 100. |
| 15:20.52 | Thanatermesis | pumpkin0 yes.. I have tried... |
| 15:20.53 | changwufei | locale just died for me in the last couple of days, im running unstable. all my locale settings are empty when i run it in the console. i have the correct settings in /etc/environment but nothing is being set. any ideas? |
| 15:20.57 | Thanatermesis | ftp.us.debian.org |
| 15:20.59 | Thanatermesis | ftp.debian.org |
| 15:21.01 | Thanatermesis | same problem |
| 15:21.22 | sanxiyn | Thanatermesis: ftp.us.debian.org works for me. |
| 15:21.25 | kpanic | hi people, is pppd 2.4.3-20050321+2 (in unstable) mppe-enabled? |
| 15:21.26 | dvs | groton: Then I think it's an alsamixer issue. Both the Master and PCM sliders should be unmuted. |
| 15:21.31 | pumpkin0 | ftp://ftp.debian.de/ |
| 15:21.31 | groton | dvs, in dmesg my audio ctrl gets listed as: #0: NVidia nForce2 with ALC650F at 0xe6002000, irq 22 |
| 15:21.34 | Thanatermesis | sanxiyn , no, I trying simple "apt-get install"... or update.. any |
| 15:21.45 | sanxiyn | Thanatermesis: Works for me. |
| 15:21.53 | Thanatermesis | sanxiyn for me rest in "conecting"... |
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| 15:22.05 | Thanatermesis | 66% [Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (128.101.80.133)] |
| 15:22.06 | groton | dvs, oh, you are right, the master is 100%, but it is mute :) |
| 15:22.11 | Thanatermesis | not continue |
| 15:22.11 | qwertz | Hi, does anybody know if it is problematic to delete qmail messages from /var/spool/qmail/mess/ ? I need to remove some messages based on their content. |
| 15:22.13 | groton | dvs, how to unmute it? |
| 15:22.20 | changwufei | Thanatermesis, have you tried traceroute/ |
| 15:22.21 | changwufei | ? |
| 15:22.25 | pumpkin0 | Thanatermesis: change /etc/pat/sources to use aother server |
| 15:22.27 | Thanatermesis | sanxiyn try apt-ge tupdate |
| 15:22.29 | Thanatermesis | no changwufei ... |
| 15:22.30 | dvs | groton: With alsamixer, Hit "M" |
| 15:22.35 | sanxiyn | Thanatermesis: I did. |
| 15:22.37 | groton | yeah |
| 15:22.37 | cahoot | changwufei: reconfiguring locales has been of no help? |
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| 15:22.48 | changwufei | no, cahoot :/ |
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| 15:23.02 | groton | dvs, you rock, lot of thanks for the help :) |
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| 15:23.07 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, traceroute works good changwufei |
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| 15:23.16 | dvs | groton: no problem |
| 15:23.40 | sanxiyn | By the way, ftp.debian.org too is just a mirror. Real "origin" is ftp-master.debian.org. |
| 15:24.02 | curt | ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian doesn't work for me either |
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| 15:24.17 | sanxiyn | curt: Yeah, it seems to be down. |
| 15:24.36 | pumpkin0 | will you all please stop beating a dead server ? |
| 15:24.40 | curt | no problem for me just wanted to verify for than* |
| 15:24.41 | changwufei | hahaha |
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| 15:24.57 | sanxiyn | ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ works. |
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| 15:25.41 | sanxiyn | (Suck, ftp.kr.debian.org doesn't work -- it used to be the fastest mirror from here...) |
| 15:25.53 | sanxiyn | (Mailed FTP admin. They said they have some disk problem. :( ) |
| 15:26.02 | Thanatermesis | ok, the update are finalized... and I try to apt-get install... but the "conecting" is really slow... |
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| 15:27.14 | changwufei | cahoot, is there a way i can put "export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8" in a script which is run when gdm starts? |
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| 15:27.36 | dvs | changwufei: /etc/environment |
| 15:27.40 | sanxiyn | changwufei: /etc/environment works. |
| 15:27.43 | changwufei | it doesnt work for me |
| 15:27.49 | sanxiyn | Too bad. Works for me. |
| 15:27.52 | changwufei | it died |
| 15:27.54 | changwufei | lol |
| 15:27.55 | simonrvn | sh rc files |
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| 15:29.55 | TPC | hm.. is it possible to remove all packages except for the base packages so I can start from the beginning? I've installed so many things that I've tried a few times and stopped using it that I can't remember them all, and I need to free the diskspace that all those packages use up. |
| 15:30.16 | changwufei | simonrvn, what do you mean exactly? add a file in my /etc/rc3.d or something? |
| 15:30.18 | TPC | and I don't want to re-do the debian install because I don't want to loose some files that are too big to backup |
| 15:30.29 | CrazyEddy | How long has ftp.debian.org been dead? |
| 15:30.50 | kittenbot | TPC why not install a new base system in a chroot, and configure that to your heart's content -- and when you're ready, switch over to it... |
| 15:30.52 | pumpkin0 | TPC: remove all xserver. That should clean the system |
| 15:30.57 | kittenbot | The magic command is: debootstrap |
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| 15:31.19 | TPC | kittenbot, like I said.. I'm low on diskspace |
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| 15:31.35 | TPC | kittenbot, only got about 150mb free |
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| 15:31.52 | pumpkin0 | TPC: have you tried deborphan ? |
| 15:32.03 | TPC | pumpkin0, yes, but not recently |
| 15:32.21 | fowler | I've gotten sarge up and running on my SATA HDD by installing using expert mode. How do I get the CD drive working now it's installed? |
| 15:32.23 | kittenbot | Sorry, didn't read that bit... my chroot is currently 234MB... |
| 15:32.29 | pumpkin0 | TPC: what about localepruge |
| 15:32.52 | TPC | pumpkin0, nope |
| 15:33.06 | dvs | fowler: Make a softlink from /dev/hdc (or whatever) to /dev/cdrom |
| 15:33.16 | pumpkin0 | TPC: cleaned 200MB first go for me. |
| 15:33.21 | curt | fowler: i am in the same boat, i use mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom |
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| 15:33.28 | changwufei | dvs, sanxiyn, what calls the /etc/environment file from init.d? |
| 15:33.35 | curt | but that was after somechecking about the drive and stuff |
| 15:33.47 | fowler | It's not a symlink issue. It's that the SATA driver masks out the IDE driver for some reason. I don't have a /dev/hda or /dev/hdc etc |
| 15:33.48 | sigma957 | it seems my Debian install won't load .Xdefaults on bootup. I have to load it manually. Any ideas on how to get it to load automatically? |
| 15:33.48 | kittenbot | I assume that /var/cache/apt/archives/ has been nuked ? |
| 15:33.50 | curt | I was about to ask about automount |
| 15:33.57 | curt | not sure how to set it up |
| 15:34.15 | dvs | fowler: Load the ide-cd module |
| 15:34.20 | fowler | During the Sarge install to my SATA disk I needed to use expert mode as per the Install Errata |
| 15:34.22 | TPC | pumpkin0, but there should be a way to get a list of all packages I have installed except for those in the base system and just apt-get remove those, but I don't know much about the inner workings of apt/dpkg so I don't know how |
| 15:34.30 | fowler | dvs - first thing I load via /etc/modules |
| 15:34.51 | dvs | fowler: And the IDE controller is compiled into the kernel? |
| 15:34.59 | fowler | It's the stock debian kernel |
| 15:35.10 | lord_rob | if i am on a knoppix live cd, and have read write access to my debian partition, can I use debootstrap to start the system installed on this partition ? |
| 15:35.26 | dvs | fowler: Load the iso9660 module? |
| 15:35.27 | pumpkin0 | TPC: no, not really. But if you try to remove anything important, apt-get will warn you in a very, very clear way. |
| 15:35.29 | fowler | It happens with 2.6.8 and 2.6.12 - both Debian stock. Yes I could recompile but I'm not in the mood to |
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| 15:35.40 | fowler | dvs. It's not a filesystem issue |
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| 15:36.42 | TPC | pumpkin0, ok, I'll just try to remove stuff and see what happens then |
| 15:36.55 | pumpkin0 | TPC: start with xserver. that's a pretty sure hit. |
| 15:37.05 | dvs | fowler: What chipset are you using? |
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| 15:37.36 | fowler | 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02) |
| 15:37.37 | dvs | Ah. the bots are back |
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| 15:38.16 | fowler | This problem is listed in the Install Errata and a workaround for the install is given. It mentions offhand that the CD might not work after the install but offers no fix for it |
| 15:38.32 | dvs | fowler: You don't have 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02) |
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| 15:38.57 | fowler | nope |
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| 15:39.44 | dvs | fowler: and it's a stock kernel? I've never seen that before. |
| 15:39.50 | fowler | Yup it's stock |
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| 15:40.02 | md`` | hi |
| 15:40.09 | changwufei | where can you get the stock 2.6.12? |
| 15:40.16 | fowler | I just found a German website detailing a problem |
| 15:40.17 | changwufei | i only have 2.6.11 in my sources |
| 15:40.22 | fowler | changwufei, unstable |
| 15:40.27 | changwufei | thats what im running |
| 15:40.28 | md`` | what can i do if i have a package installed that depends on another package, but i dont wanna install the other package? |
| 15:40.35 | dvs | changwufei: etch (testing) |
| 15:40.42 | takatumi | lord_rob: you don't need debootstrap for that, chroot should do. |
| 15:40.45 | changwufei | oh |
| 15:40.47 | pumpkin0 | md'': just don't do it |
| 15:40.50 | changwufei | thanks |
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| 15:41.01 | fowler | "Der für libata werkelnde Chipsatz-Treiber ata-piix ist AFAIK br0ken" |
| 15:41.06 | fowler | Looks like a libata problem |
| 15:41.09 | md`` | like, i have confixx-premium installed and it depends on exim4...but i dont want exim4 installed...instead i use something else |
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| 15:41.24 | md`` | pumpkin0: that's not a solution :/ |
| 15:41.29 | fowler | Oh well. Time for a custom kernel I suppose. |
| 15:41.42 | fowler | md' make a dummy package for exim4 |
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| 15:41.58 | md`` | fowler: can i somewhere read how to do that? |
| 15:42.10 | fowler | md' dpkg-dev docs probably |
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| 15:42.55 | sbk | here's my problem: in my stupidity, a machine that was periodically updating dyndns stopped doing its thing, and now I can't figure out what its IP address is. Is there a tool to quickly "probe" port 22 on a slew of machines? Want to avoid writing a script if it's already available |
| 15:43.09 | pumpkin0 | md'': these dependanies all have a reason. If you break them, be prepared for some problems.. |
| 15:43.12 | sbk | er, s/slew of machines/slew of IP addresses |
| 15:44.14 | fowler | Time to recompile the kernel I suppose. I was really hoping to keep this machine as stock as possbile so It was nearly 0 maintenance |
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| 15:44.58 | fowler | sbk, nmap |
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| 15:45.18 | sbk | fowler: ah, thanks. |
| 15:45.28 | N0S3 | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages it not working! |
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| 15:45.43 | N0S3 | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages no search! |
| 15:46.36 | azeem | N0S3: packages.debian.org is down |
| 15:46.43 | azeem | saens.debian.org, really |
| 15:46.52 | N0S3 | azeem wow !! why? |
| 15:46.55 | xai | anyone have an example of host "cryptsetup reload" works? its hung my server a few times already. |
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| 15:47.14 | azeem | 16:24 < Joey> Umh... the machine pings, must have crashed. |
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| 15:49.11 | davis_ | which channel could I visit so i could get help using lame? |
| 15:49.25 | md`` | pumpkin0: yes i know, but confixx just depends on courier cause it needs mail, but i have another mail system installed, so that wont be a problem... |
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| 15:50.32 | Zugschlus | md``: equivs |
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| 15:51.53 | pumpkin0 | md'': are you sure these to will get along ? mail != mail. |
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| 15:53.13 | Benbread | Hey all, dual booting went like a charm :) but i have a little problem |
| 15:53.54 | Benbread | I'm using Etch and would like to use KDE 3.4 but apt-get refuses to install it - does anyone know of an entry i can add to my sources list that includes a KDE version that will work with etch? |
| 15:53.59 | tarzeau | davis_: ask here? |
| 15:54.25 | davis_ | lame foo.ogg foo.mp3 did not produce usable files for me. |
| 15:54.35 | tarzeau | davis_: which version of lame? |
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| 15:54.58 | davis_ | newest |
| 15:55.07 | davis_ | err, one older than beta |
| 15:55.19 | cahoot | davis: you don't have the original wavs? |
| 15:55.24 | tarzeau | davis_: same here, i got a file only 10% of the original file size |
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| 15:55.41 | tarzeau | davis_: did you read "Assuming raw pcm input file" |
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| 15:56.15 | tarzeau | davis_: i've used it like this xmp --stereo -f 44100 -b 16 -d file -o - the.xm | lame -x -r -s 44.1 --bithwidth 16 -m s - the.mp3 |
| 15:56.16 | davis_ | no i missed that |
| 15:56.26 | tarzeau | davis_: read the manual (again?) |
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| 15:56.36 | md` | pumpkin0: yes i'm pretty sure |
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| 15:58.24 | quittt | is anyone here having problems with new Gnome 2.10 with doubled Debian menu entries: |
| 15:58.24 | davis_ | hmm. |
| 15:58.24 | quittt | ? |
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| 15:58.46 | tarzeau | quittt: i've had the problem with wmaker |
| 15:59.01 | tarzeau | quittt: can you make screenshots? and tell what version of menu you have? |
| 15:59.09 | rooti | hi! is there an equivalent of libqt3-mt-dev for libqt3c102-mt? |
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| 15:59.16 | Servo888 | Anybody experiance I/O Errors / and "scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device" with uSB 2.0 harddrives? |
| 15:59.26 | changwufei | nope |
| 15:59.32 | Servo888 | Seems when writting large files my drive just dies =\. |
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| 15:59.45 | changwufei | what FS is it? |
| 15:59.47 | quittt | tarzeau, menu is 2.1.25 and menu-xdg is 0.2 |
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| 16:00.31 | changwufei | Servo888, im using vfat with my usb2 drive, thats ok, havent tried over 4gb though, as that would die for obvious reasons |
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| 16:00.52 | Servo888 | changwufei, any one - It did it in ext3, and did it when I was dd'ing the entire drive with zeros. It could be shot - so I'm going to get it exchanged - but still I can't confim it being a driver or hardware issue |
| 16:01.02 | quittt | tarzeau, I cant make screenshots |
| 16:01.06 | quittt | it is in the menu |
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| 16:01.13 | Smerdyakov | Can anyone point me to documentation on what format argument the --gecos flag to Debian adduser takes? |
| 16:01.39 | tarzeau | Smerdyakov: try it, and look at /etc/passwd ? |
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| 16:01.45 | tarzeau | Smerdyakov: otherwise man 5 passwd |
| 16:01.55 | tarzeau | Smerdyakov: if it's missing, complete it, and file a bugreport with patch |
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| 16:02.59 | Smerdyakov | Ah, OK. So this goes into that field of /etc/passwd. A shame the adduser docs can't just say that. :) |
| 16:02.59 | xnet | is there a command line ftp option in debian? |
| 16:03.16 | pumpkin0 | xnet: ncftp ? |
| 16:03.18 | tarzeau | xnet: lftp |
| 16:03.27 | xnet | does are downloads or build in? |
| 16:03.31 | tarzeau | xnet: and there's .netrc |
| 16:03.45 | tarzeau | xnet: search google for ftp netrc |
| 16:03.46 | pumpkin0 | xnet: apt-get install ncftp |
| 16:03.55 | xnet | dig it, thanks |
| 16:04.20 | jim | xnet: and the original... ftp |
| 16:04.42 | jim | it's hysterically historical |
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| 16:07.22 | N0S3 | http://packages.debian.org not working! no search !!! please repair it!!!!! |
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| 16:07.29 | tarzeau | N0S3: we know |
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| 16:08.03 | N0S3 | tarzeau repair please ! im need this page! |
| 16:08.25 | tarzeau | N0S3: i can't |
| 16:08.26 | kevin06 | has the dependency issue in the repos been fixed regarding GNOME? |
| 16:08.32 | pumpkin0 | N0S3: why ? |
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| 16:08.45 | tarzeau | kevin06: which? |
| 16:09.02 | kevin06 | apt-get install gnome leads to a chain of unending broken dependencies. |
| 16:09.12 | N0S3 | pumpkin0 unknown! |
| 16:09.19 | kevin06 | Or via synaptic. |
| 16:09.20 | tarzeau | kevin06: in sid? |
| 16:09.45 | N0S3 | tarzeau do you can repair this problem? |
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| 16:09.53 | tarzeau | N0S3: i just said i can't |
| 16:09.57 | kevin06 | I'm not sure whne I used it last, actually. It might have been Sid. |
| 16:10.04 | kevin06 | Sid works correctly? |
| 16:10.06 | N0S3 | tarzeau ok |
| 16:10.10 | tarzeau | kevin06: mind reading /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 16:10.13 | pumpkin0 | N0S3: what can that page do that apt-get, dpkg and aptitude can't solve ? |
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| 16:10.21 | smacnay | Can anyone recommend a stable 2.6.xx kernel? 2,6,8? |
| 16:10.23 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: a few things |
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| 16:10.41 | N0S3 | pumpkin0 im need seed description |
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| 16:10.50 | N0S3 | pumpkin0 im need see description |
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| 16:11.03 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: you can read changelogs and check versions available s,t,u,e |
| 16:11.12 | tarzeau | N0S3: apt-cache show package |
| 16:11.18 | pumpkin0 | N0S3: start aptitude, search the package ... |
| 16:11.38 | N0S3 | tarzeau pumpkin0 OK ! thks! |
| 16:11.57 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: if i change /etc/apt/sources, do a apt-get update .... OK, it stinks. But it works. |
| 16:12.01 | rooti | what's the problem with packages.debian.org? |
| 16:12.12 | rooti | i can't access it |
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| 16:12.16 | tarzeau | rooti: that's the problem |
| 16:12.18 | pumpkin0 | rooti: server is dead. |
| 16:12.22 | ircops | hah |
| 16:12.23 | rooti | ouch |
| 16:12.29 | kingtux | bout to start net install anything I should know |
| 16:12.30 | simonrvn | it doesn't like the smell of your tcp packets ;p |
| 16:12.42 | simonrvn | ouch :( |
| 16:12.45 | kingtux | on my lap top |
| 16:12.52 | smacnay | well, something is wrong here... I am typing blind and will not have read any responses to my question... sorry. Something gone wrong with framebuffer. reboot |
| 16:13.09 | simonrvn | fbset... |
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| 16:13.20 | ircops | kingtux: yeah, don't install unstable (sid) |
| 16:13.20 | simonrvn | i'll tell him when he comes back |
| 16:13.27 | thingfish | kingtux: pick a non-debian.org mirror. |
| 16:13.38 | kingtux | in stalling sarge |
| 16:13.46 | ircops | good |
| 16:13.59 | kingtux | why non-debain mirror |
| 16:14.12 | dvs | kingtux: Pick a non ftp.debian.org or http.debian.org mirror, like simonrvn says |
| 16:14.23 | simonrvn | eh? |
| 16:14.24 | kingtux | ok |
| 16:14.24 | pumpkin0 | because the main server behind all debian.org-servers is down. |
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| 16:14.32 | ircops | dvs: that was thingfish |
| 16:14.32 | jim | well |
| 16:14.40 | jim | pick the closest mirror |
| 16:14.43 | dvs | ircops: close enough. ;-) |
| 16:14.46 | ircops | heh |
| 16:14.47 | simonrvn | jim: pump |
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| 16:15.02 | jim | that's a dhcp client :) |
| 16:15.06 | LinuxMafia | all :any one knows how can i resize an ext3 partition , without deleting any data? |
| 16:15.16 | simonrvn | jim: well pump ;p |
| 16:15.28 | simonrvn | who's all? |
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| 16:15.44 | jim | simonrvn: you are, for one :) |
| 16:16.01 | jim | cmon, can't people just understand? |
| 16:16.06 | simonrvn | all what? toasty and warm inside, like danish? |
| 16:16.11 | simonrvn | like a |
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| 16:16.34 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia: remove the ext3-journal, use ext2resize, change the partition-table and add the journal again. |
| 16:16.50 | Bac9 | is something the matter with packages.debian.org? it's horibly slow |
| 16:17.04 | simonrvn | scroll up |
| 16:17.04 | jim | LinuxMafia: back up the data in the partition onto some media like a cd or tape, delete the partition, create a new partition the size you want, restore the data |
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| 16:17.35 | pumpkin0 | Bac9: one server at debian.org is down. and it is slowing down everything... |
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| 16:17.42 | jim | but NOTE, any time you alter the partition table there's a risk there, so back up either the entire drive (safest) or just the partition table |
| 16:17.53 | G2 | Anyone remember what the name is of the project that works on putting linux on wrieless routers, like dlink ones? thanks. |
| 16:18.09 | Loevborg | Anyone know a video player that can seek to arbitrary non-keyframe time positions? |
| 16:18.14 | Bac9 | pumpkin0: how fast is that one server that it can outperform all the rest? |
| 16:18.24 | simonrvn | use a mirror ffs |
| 16:18.39 | LinuxMafia | pumpkin0: it wont delete the data? |
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| 16:18.47 | pumpkin0 | Bac9: well... kill the loadbalancer and everything is down. I think it's the DB... |
| 16:19.04 | jim | if you're going to use the resize thing, then you likely want to back up the entire drive (incl. partition table/mbr) and then do the resize operation as suggested by the others |
| 16:19.11 | Bac9 | pumpkin0: ah, loadbalancer, gotcha |
| 16:19.13 | jim | LinuxMafia: one would hope :) |
| 16:19.21 | Bac9 | pumpkin0: any eta on it going back up? |
| 16:19.23 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia: if done right: no. But the odds are against you ... and backups are a fine thing. |
| 16:19.39 | kittenbot | Loevborg: You always convert your video to a sequence of jpgs... :) |
| 16:19.44 | kittenbot | +could |
| 16:19.45 | LinuxMafia | pumpkin0: is there any how to? |
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| 16:20.24 | jim | LinuxMafia: so... no guarantees... if you care about your data, you should back it up |
| 16:20.25 | Loevborg | kittenbot, I need an intelligent player that keeps track of the last few seconds or something. |
| 16:21.02 | chimp_ | question: I have an apache2 hosted site from my machine, just1primate.dyndns.org a friend can see it by IP, and on DNS lookup, but can't bring it up in his browser, any ideas? |
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| 16:21.38 | jim | hmm, lilo wants a loan... |
| 16:21.44 | LinuxMafia | jim: i mostly care about OS , i have data back up |
| 16:21.47 | simonrvn | let the dns propagate |
| 16:22.06 | ircops | vonage is yummy. |
| 16:22.08 | chimp_ | can anyone see the site? |
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| 16:22.18 | jim | LinuxMafia: so... back it up |
| 16:22.21 | chimp_ | just1primate.dyndns.org |
| 16:22.39 | tarzeau | can someone run grub-update and tell me how to |grep vmlin |head -1 and only get one line? |
| 16:22.47 | tarzeau | and kill the "Searching for .*" line? |
| 16:22.52 | Dewi | Loevborg: if you seek to a non-keyframe position, won't it calculate from the last keyframe up to that point? |
| 16:22.58 | simonrvn | chimp_: works fine |
| 16:23.01 | Dewi | Loevborg: sure, it can be slow... |
| 16:23.03 | ircops | chimp_: what does that have to do with debian? |
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| 16:23.05 | jim | tarzeau: | head -1 will always get you one line |
| 16:23.17 | chimp_ | I run Apache 2 on my Debian box...;-)\ |
| 16:23.18 | tarzeau | jim: run the command, it won't |
| 16:23.29 | ircops | =D |
| 16:23.30 | jim | describe |
| 16:23.46 | LinuxMafia | jim: humm i ok i got it |
| 16:23.46 | chimp_ | thanks |
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| 16:24.00 | tarzeau | jim: update-grub |grep vmlin |head -1 |
| 16:24.01 | ircops | chimp_: working here |
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| 16:24.06 | tarzeau | jim: it gets me two lines |
| 16:24.17 | chimp_ | cool |
| 16:24.19 | chimp_ | thanks |
| 16:24.20 | Dewi | tarzeau: if you are getting more then is one of them on stderr? |
| 16:24.24 | jim | tarzeau: maybe one of those lines is not coming from stdout |
| 16:24.32 | chimp_ | serves my friend for using an M$ box... |
| 16:24.39 | tarzeau | jim: yes, that's why i ask how i can only get the one i want |
| 16:24.41 | Dewi | tarzeau: programs output to stdout and stderr; a pipe only grabs the stdout output |
| 16:24.54 | jim | 2> /dev/null |
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| 16:24.58 | Dewi | tarzeau: define "get"? |
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| 16:25.25 | jim | that's not guaranteed, because it could be using something other than stderr |
| 16:25.26 | Dewi | if something is on stderr you're not "getting" it in your stdout at all, but you will see it on the terminal |
| 16:26.31 | Dewi | and normally that's a good thing |
| 16:26.47 | Loevborg | Dewi, yes, the delay should be negligible on today's cpus. |
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| 16:27.16 | Loevborg | Dewi, yet it seems that mplayer can't do it. |
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| 16:27.35 | Dewi | Loevborg: unfortunately my experience with seeking around in videos in xine hasn't been overwhelmingly positive. |
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| 16:27.47 | mgh0^ | I have just installed the latest version of JDK (1.5) from the sun site but when trying to ./configure a package i get this: |
| 16:27.47 | mgh0^ | checking for java... /usr/bin/java |
| 16:27.48 | mgh0^ | checking the installed JDK... configure: error: JDK is too old, you need at least 1.3 |
| 16:27.55 | Dewi | Loevborg: I can in fact seek to between keyframes but it literally just starts playing from there - so I see corruption until next keyframe |
| 16:27.59 | mgh0^ | how can i work around this? |
| 16:28.10 | simonrvn | make-jpkg |
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| 16:28.19 | simonrvn | ? |
| 16:28.25 | Loevborg | Dewi, doesn't sound so exciting.. |
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| 16:28.48 | Dewi | Loevborg: windows' video framework, however, will properly decode from last key to current frame whenever you seek |
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| 16:29.29 | Dewi | Loevborg: there's a couple of different underlying frameworks of course, in debian. xine is only one. mplayer is independant and I have no idea what it does for seeking to non-keys |
| 16:29.34 | mgh0^ | simonrvn, it seems to have installed 1.5 fine, can i force it to recognise that I have installed it? |
| 16:29.48 | curt | how do i create an automount map for automounter for my cdrom |
| 16:29.51 | simonrvn | i don't mess around with java much |
| 16:29.58 | mgh0^ | me either :/ |
| 16:30.00 | Loevborg | Dewi, maybe gstreamer is better |
| 16:30.03 | Dewi | Loevborg: I get a fair bit of instability when I seek around in xine too :/ |
| 16:30.18 | student | Hi Im running sarge, when I put in my usb flash drive and mount it to media/flash the only way I can umount is by right clicking on the icon and selecting unmount. If I do it manually i.e., umount /media/flash I get device is busy I tried eject /dev/sda1 I also get device busy. So what's up how can I stop this device and umount |
| 16:30.22 | Dewi | Loevborg: oh... is that another framework? again, I have no experience. |
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| 16:30.49 | dvs | student: I bet you're in the directory when you try to umount it. |
| 16:31.07 | paulliu | ftp.debian.org down?? |
| 16:31.07 | student | dvs: no I thought that also |
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| 16:31.14 | Dewi | mgh0^: change your paths so 1.5 is dominant? |
| 16:31.16 | jim | student: what are all the reasons the device could be busy? |
| 16:31.21 | Loevborg | Dewi, you'd think that would be an area that developers improve... |
| 16:31.24 | Dewi | mgh0^: or rename/remove the old java |
| 16:31.25 | Dewi | ? |
| 16:31.26 | student | jim: how can I tell |
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| 16:31.30 | thingfish | student: do you cd out of /media/flash before you umount? |
| 16:31.38 | jim | well experience might tell you |
| 16:31.42 | student | thingfish: yes |
| 16:31.48 | mgh0^ | Dewi, how do I change the paths, I am still learning |
| 16:31.54 | Phr0zenKore | anybody know some good lightweight alternatives to things? |
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| 16:32.03 | iaido | having trouble forwarding ports. could someone please check out my iptables ? http://pastebin.ca/24370 |
| 16:32.07 | Phr0zenKore | like dillo, centericq and stuff like that |
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| 16:32.20 | ParAdoX | sellam |
| 16:32.28 | iaido | port scan connects to 443/1741/1742 fine from the NAT-ing system, but I can't access them from the outside |
| 16:32.31 | Phr0zenKore | .. are you THE paradox? |
| 16:32.34 | student | jim: is there a way to tell what is using the /dev/sda1? |
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| 16:32.54 | Gathond | student: lsof or fuser |
| 16:33.01 | ParAdoX | znal ko bosnanski |
| 16:33.02 | ParAdoX | od vas |
| 16:33.06 | Phr0zenKore | ... |
| 16:33.06 | student | Gathond: thanks |
| 16:33.46 | simonrvn | !bosnia |
| 16:34.10 | ParAdoX | he |
| 16:34.27 | simonrvn | !ba |
| 16:34.27 | dpkg | [ba] Bosnia & Herzegovina |
| 16:34.33 | simonrvn | *sigh* |
| 16:34.37 | nkuttler | ParAdoX: do you speak english? |
| 16:34.40 | curt | re: automounter: no automount maps defined. ~ how do i set map point up for my cdrom for autofs |
| 16:34.48 | ParAdoX | little |
| 16:34.49 | jim | it would be nice to have something that can tell you "why is this dir busy" but it's sometimes files in the dir that make it busy... other than that, it could be you're CDed into the dir or dirs inside there |
| 16:34.54 | paulliu | ftp ftp.debian.org shows ftp: connect: Connection timed out |
| 16:35.01 | Dewi | mgh0^: well, PATH is an environment variable which your shell uses to search for programs when you try to run something |
| 16:35.10 | nkuttler | ParAdoX: feel free to ask questions in english |
| 16:35.16 | simonrvn | paulliu: pick a mirror. one of the machines there is down |
| 16:35.16 | dvs | paulliu: It's dead, Jim |
| 16:35.19 | Dewi | mgh0^: I'm not sure what that "checking for java" script is doing and whether it's using PATH |
| 16:35.24 | jim | it is?? |
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| 16:35.31 | dvs | jim: For now |
| 16:35.36 | simonrvn | jim seems ok to me |
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| 16:35.52 | Dewi | Loevborg: yeah, sounds like it's worth filing a bug |
| 16:35.57 | ParAdoX | jebiga |
| 16:36.02 | jim | I think they know :) |
| 16:36.09 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 16:36.29 | jim | it would be nice to know that for sure |
| 16:36.32 | curt | I just want my cdrom to work without having to maually mount and eject it... any suggestions |
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| 16:37.02 | simonrvn | curt: set up the auto.master and auto.misc files. docs in /usr/share/doc/autofs/ |
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| 16:37.23 | jim | curt: -directly- speaking... that's not how unix-alikes like linux work... you mount filesystems, you unmount them then you can remove the media |
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| 16:38.01 | jim | curt: having said that, there do exist programs/daemons/thingys that try to give you that kind of functionality |
| 16:38.10 | curt | but the 2.4 kernel i had before would mount it automaically and put a little cdrom icon on the desktop |
| 16:38.23 | mgh0^ | Dewi, Can i edit the /user/bin/java file to point to JDK 1.5? |
| 16:38.24 | curt | now with 2.6 i have to mount it myself |
| 16:38.31 | jim | the kernel didn't put any icons on your desktop |
| 16:38.43 | jim | I think some other program did that |
| 16:38.49 | Dewi | mgh0^: is /usr/bin/java a symlink or an actual program code object file? |
| 16:39.01 | mgh0^ | how do i tell? |
| 16:39.06 | curt | auto.misc has "cd-fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev:/dev/cdrom" but /etc/init.d/autofs status gives no mount points |
| 16:39.14 | Dewi | mgh0^: ls -l /usr/bin/java |
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| 16:39.41 | iaido | anyone know why these ports aren't forwarding in iptables? http://pastebin.ca/24370 |
| 16:39.50 | mgh0^ | Dewi, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2005-10-01 14:44 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java |
| 16:39.56 | Tortel | whats the command to convert a .bin to a .deb? |
| 16:39.56 | jim | curt: how did you get this 2.6? |
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| 16:40.12 | curt | installed testing |
| 16:40.16 | nkuttler | Tortel: what bin? |
| 16:40.21 | paulliu | mgh0^ It should be kaffe... |
| 16:40.23 | Dewi | mgh0^: aah, it is a symlink after all. Yes, you could easily just delete that link and create a new one with "ln -s" that points to a java of your choice |
| 16:40.26 | curt | then changed to unstable for a few packages i wanted |
| 16:40.32 | InitMass | got this error when trying to login to gnome. "Configuration is not correct. The configuratino contains av invalid command line for the login dialog...." which file should i look into? |
| 16:40.34 | jim | Tortel: you'd have to build it yourself and figure out in the process what's in the bin... |
| 16:40.35 | Tortel | nkuttler: a java .bin |
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| 16:40.41 | Tortel | :( |
| 16:40.46 | jim | !install java |
| 16:40.46 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 16:40.46 | nkuttler | Tortel: /msg dpkg java |
| 16:41.09 | r3tex | what is a good ftp server program? |
| 16:41.21 | jim | r3tex: would have to be good! |
| 16:41.22 | r3tex | and good != l33t |
| 16:41.35 | jim | so what's good mean? |
| 16:41.39 | mgh0^ | Dewi, how do I do this? sorry for the barrage of questions |
| 16:41.50 | r3tex | jim: like tried and tested good =) |
| 16:42.06 | jim | usually most debian packages are tested |
| 16:42.12 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia: (if you are still here): if you need a how-to => forget it. just backup the data, includeing the OS and repartition the disk |
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| 16:42.32 | jim | I like proftpd, but there are others |
| 16:42.41 | jim | why do you want ftp anyway? |
| 16:42.45 | r3tex | jim: i'm sure, but like if i ask what webserver do you reccomend, you say apache for example |
| 16:42.53 | jim | it's an insecure protocol |
| 16:42.57 | jim | no. I say aolserver. |
| 16:43.00 | r3tex | jim, cause i don't feel like messing around with sftp |
| 16:43.04 | r3tex | =P |
| 16:43.08 | jim | apache is ok |
| 16:43.09 | r3tex | er ssh |
| 16:43.16 | jim | well ok |
| 16:43.17 | r3tex | IIS is better? |
| 16:43.20 | r3tex | heh |
| 16:43.31 | r3tex | aolserver =0 |
| 16:43.35 | pumpkin0 | jim: and dam usefull to setup networkinstalls. |
| 16:43.35 | jim | iis? does that run in debian? |
| 16:43.48 | mgh0^ | is there an i386 distro that uses the 2.6.12-1 kernel? |
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| 16:44.06 | dvs | mgh0^: etch |
| 16:44.08 | r3tex | jim: no hehe, just didn't consider aolserver or others ;P |
| 16:44.09 | nerdy2 | IIS is microsofts virus vector which sometimes serves web pages |
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| 16:44.21 | r3tex | mgh0^: yes! LFS |
| 16:44.22 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: hello |
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| 16:44.31 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: this is what i am gonna do |
| 16:44.38 | jim | r3tex: blows apache into the weeds... threaded, massively rescalable, originally designed as an application server |
| 16:44.50 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: i have 2 hard drive |
| 16:44.51 | mojowerks | When hotplug detects an external hard drive being plugged in, what process automagically creates the mount point /dev/sdax ? |
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| 16:45.07 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: so i am gonna copy the Os to one drive |
| 16:45.15 | jim | but it's different, its config is different and it takes awhile to learn it |
| 16:45.18 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: good idea. copy everything with cp -rp / |
| 16:45.19 | Hariboboutch | J'aime lécher des escargots |
| 16:45.20 | mgh0^ | r3tex, LFS? |
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| 16:45.29 | ircops | !fr |
| 16:45.29 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 16:45.44 | Hariboboutch | Waw |
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| 16:45.47 | jim | snailheads? |
| 16:45.48 | Hariboboutch | Balaiiiise |
| 16:45.49 | r3tex | mgh0^: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ |
| 16:45.50 | Dewi | mgh0^: where is your new installation of java located anyway? |
| 16:45.51 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: and don't forget to reinstall grub/lilo afterwards. |
| 16:45.53 | joaopaulo | after an upgrade this week the fonts of X got wierd, some ideia about it ? |
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| 16:46.01 | r3tex | jim: howcome noone uses it ;P |
| 16:46.12 | jim | r3tex: photo.net |
| 16:46.21 | mojowerks | leave |
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| 16:46.40 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: yeah i have to do that , but i dont know i have 80GB harddrive , i see only 63GB , i dont know where is the rest |
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| 16:47.00 | jim | r3tex: scorecard.org, wgbh.org, greenpeace.org, berkleemusic.com |
| 16:47.04 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: try (as root) df -h |
| 16:47.06 | jim | not used? :P |
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| 16:47.34 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: i did |
| 16:47.51 | jim | I'm sorry, the statement you've made is not quite accurate, please check the number and try again :) |
| 16:48.01 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: what does it say (do you know http://channels.debian.net/paste/ ?) |
| 16:48.09 | mgh0^ | Dewi, its in /home/mathew is there a specific place to which i should install it? |
| 16:48.24 | Dewi | mgh0^: follow the installation instructions |
| 16:48.32 | jim | probably it's because it's fairly differnt than apache config-wise |
| 16:48.34 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: yes i will use raftb |
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| 16:48.39 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: just a sec |
| 16:48.47 | Dewi | mgh0^: or use java-package to build a .deb that will install for you |
| 16:48.50 | mgh0^ | i did, it said nothing about a location to install to |
| 16:49.04 | mgh0^ | I did that, created a .deb i men |
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| 16:49.15 | jim | mgh0^: so now, install that deb :) |
| 16:49.26 | mgh0^ | yes, I have doen |
| 16:49.28 | mgh0^ | done |
| 16:49.42 | jim | ok, so you should have that java |
| 16:49.50 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: http://rafb.net/paste/results/f1yKdD17.html |
| 16:49.51 | pumpkin0 | mgh0^: and now try "which java" |
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| 16:50.03 | Dewi | mgh0^: well, when I do that, it installs a symlink just like the one you have |
| 16:50.15 | Dewi | mgh0^: only it points to the version of java I just installed |
| 16:50.19 | Dewi | mgh0^: not some old one |
| 16:50.23 | jim | it installs it and tries to follow the debian file location standards (fhs too I guess) |
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| 16:50.47 | mgh0^ | mathew@debian:~$ which java |
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| 16:50.48 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: start cfdisk and look for free space. |
| 16:50.48 | mgh0^ | /usr/bin/java |
| 16:50.51 | Dewi | mgh0^: what does "java -version" say? |
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| 16:51.06 | simonrvn | debian does follow fhs, for the most part IIRC |
| 16:51.11 | pumpkin0 | mgh0^: ls -la /usr/bin/java |
| 16:51.18 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: i hope so if i have that will be great |
| 16:51.27 | Dewi | pumpkin0: we did all this before, it's a symlink to /etc/alternatives/java |
| 16:51.43 | paulliu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.43 | pumpkin0 | Dewi: sorry.... |
| 16:51.46 | mgh0^ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2005-10-01 14:44 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java |
| 16:51.55 | Dewi | mgh0^: what does "java -version" say? |
| 16:52.01 | simonrvn | it should be still a symlink |
| 16:52.05 | mgh0^ | mathew@debian:~$ java -version |
| 16:52.06 | mgh0^ | SableVM version 1.11.3 |
| 16:52.06 | mgh0^ | - compile date and time: 2005-08-29 00:07:21 UTC |
| 16:52.06 | mgh0^ | - gcc version: 4.0.2 20050821 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-6) |
| 16:52.06 | mgh0^ | - 'real life brokenness' features enabled |
| 16:52.06 | mgh0^ | - copying garbage collection |
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| 16:52.16 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 16:52.19 | Dewi | sigh. |
| 16:52.23 | simonrvn | don't paste here |
| 16:52.26 | Dewi | mine really isn't that long. |
| 16:52.28 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: cfdisk wont show any free space |
| 16:52.32 | mgh0^ | i'll use pastebin next time :) |
| 16:52.38 | simonrvn | @paster |
| 16:52.40 | ravenbird | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste select #debian, and paste away. |
| 16:52.46 | Smerdyakov | What's the best way to script interaction with 'adduser', so that I can add a user programmatically without having to send anything to stdin? |
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| 16:52.59 | Dewi | Smerdyakov: TO stdin? |
| 16:53.09 | Gijs` | Can I get KDE 3.4 packages from http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ? |
| 16:53.09 | simonrvn | Smerdyakov: i think there's stuff for that in /usr/share/doc/adduser no? |
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| 16:53.18 | mgh0^ | http://pastebin.com/379723 |
| 16:53.21 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, I don't really know what the convention is, but I hope you know what I mean. :) |
| 16:53.24 | simonrvn | (various little useful bits and pieces) |
| 16:53.28 | Smerdyakov | simonrvn, oh, I only checked the man page. |
| 16:53.28 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vpNMQz30.html |
| 16:53.31 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: try cat /proc/ide/hda/model |
| 16:53.33 | jim | r3tex: but seriously, I like it because there's an application framework I like where you have these package things you can add to it (like... powerpoint-alike thing, forums, workflow, content management, dotlrn (-huge- e-learning framework), ecommerce, and you can make your own packages) |
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| 16:54.02 | simonrvn | else you could try 'adduser debian' in google/linux |
| 16:54.11 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: i use gentoo , i hope it works |
| 16:54.18 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: that's OK and shows a 80GB disc. |
| 16:54.25 | simonrvn | (other distros have adduser, but they all suck in some horrid way) |
| 16:54.28 | Dewi | mgh0^: are you sure the new .deb package installed correctly? |
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| 16:54.36 | Phr0zenKore | damnit, aptitude is behaving weird, it wants to install KDE so i try to purge it and it wants to remove CVS, vim and stuff like that! |
| 16:54.38 | jim | r3tex: you would install the package, go to the site map, add a url location, create an instance of the package and mount it on the url location |
| 16:54.39 | Phr0zenKore | wtf man?! o_O |
| 16:54.41 | mgh0^ | I'll run the .deb again |
| 16:54.45 | jim | very -very- nice |
| 16:54.47 | paulliu | why not remove sablevm, kaffe, gij... and re-install Sun's JDK |
| 16:54.53 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: WDC WD400EB-11CPF0 |
| 16:54.54 | Smerdyakov | simonrvn, I'm still looking, but it looks like, while adduser.local lets you automate many things, it is no help with programmatic password setting. |
| 16:55.08 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: try "df -H" "H" not "h". still missing some GB ? |
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| 16:55.12 | r3tex | jim: hmm *researching* |
| 16:55.13 | Dewi | mgh0^: if you already ran it, you can't really "run it again" |
| 16:55.21 | jim | openacs.org |
| 16:55.26 | Tortel | ok, one more question, how do I make firefox my default browser?? |
| 16:55.44 | simonrvn | Smerdyakov: scripted pwgen or makepassword + adduser maybe, or my google search mentioned above ... *shrug* |
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| 16:56.01 | jim | it uses tcl; some people don't like tcl, originally I didn't like it much, now I'm conversant |
| 16:56.01 | iaido | number 1 #debian stumping question of the day: why aren't these ports forwarding? http://pastebin.ca/24370 |
| 16:56.04 | Smerdyakov | simonrvn, I am already generating the passwords. I just need to send them to adduser in the easiest way possible. |
| 16:56.12 | simonrvn | *nods* |
| 16:56.13 | dvs | smacnay: pass the beer to me!!!!! ;-) |
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| 16:56.25 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Gp9t1J66.html |
| 16:56.29 | smacnay | dvs: hmm, mine is almost empty. |
| 16:56.36 | smacnay | dvs: do you like backwash? |
| 16:56.37 | simonrvn | smacnay: oh, i was going to tell you something when you came back, but i forgot now :/ |
| 16:56.37 | Dewi | Smerdyakov: useradd? |
| 16:56.48 | dvs | smacnay: I'm sure it's going to be easy to find this month. ;-) |
| 16:56.51 | smacnay | simonrvn: about recommended kernel version to use? |
| 16:56.53 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, but I like the extra stuff that adduser does. |
| 16:57.02 | smacnay | dvs: yes. It will. |
| 16:57.05 | mgh0^ | Dewi, ao what can i do? |
| 16:57.12 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, it's perfect, except for the password input method. |
| 16:57.13 | simonrvn | smacnay: thing .. oh, fbset, if you're using framebuffer video |
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| 16:57.34 | jim | iaido: with ipmasq? you have to change one of the rules or add a rule.. or uncomment a line or something liek that |
| 16:57.40 | smacnay | simonrvn: I don't think fbset will run with vesafb, will it? |
| 16:57.40 | simonrvn | smacnay: when mine does what yours did, i use that, then start x up, and it usually restores the video |
| 16:57.41 | Dewi | mgh0^: maybe you should remove all the installed javas before you install the new one |
| 16:57.52 | smacnay | simonrvn: I can try, thanks. |
| 16:57.56 | iaido | jim, the 443,1741,1742 ports aren't forwarding |
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| 16:57.59 | simonrvn | smacnay: hmmm, good question |
| 16:58.00 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: aaaahhhh you have 8GB swap-space. That's not showing up in df. |
| 16:58.07 | simonrvn | anyway, GTG |
| 16:58.11 | jim | iaido: are you using ipmasq? |
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| 16:58.19 | Smerdyakov | What's the easiest command-line that functions like "double echo", i.e., writes the input string twice to stdout? I hope this will let me use adduser programmatically |
| 16:58.22 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: wow it is to much right? |
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| 16:58.27 | jim | the debian package named "ipmasq"? |
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| 16:58.35 | smacnay | simonrvn: I am getting some strange errors now, on shutdown, errors about the swap partition and some lsb links |
| 16:58.37 | iaido | not sure.. I don't think so |
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| 16:58.55 | pumpkin0 | LinuxMafia_: for workstations: yes. for big servers: no. |
| 16:58.59 | jim | hmm, ignore me then :) |
| 16:59.00 | Dewi | Smerdyakov: why do you need that? |
| 16:59.13 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, to produce input for adduser. (The password and its confirmation) |
| 16:59.15 | iaido | the system's got 3 NICs. two are bridged with an external IP. the third one is independant with ip 192.168.3.105 |
| 16:59.22 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: ok doky thanks alot |
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| 16:59.28 | LinuxMafia_ | pumpkin0: thanks so much |
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| 16:59.33 | iaido | I need to forward those three ports from the bridge's external IP to internal nic |
| 16:59.37 | mgh0^ | Dewi, http://pastebin.com/379733 |
| 16:59.39 | Dewi | Smerdyakov: just output it twice? |
| 16:59.51 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, I'm asking for a _command-line_ that achieves that. |
| 16:59.54 | rooti | what is the name of the package with the development headers for libqt3c102-mt? |
| 17:00.05 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, presumably one using only standard tools. |
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| 17:00.36 | smacnay | simonrvn: I am also using an nForce2 mobo that may not be 100% supported yet. Who knows. |
| 17:00.40 | Dewi | Smerdyakov: "cat hello.txt hello.txt" |
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| 17:00.45 | jim | r3tex: there is/was a course at MIT, 6.916, which included ArsDigita Community System (acs), then oracle-only... now, openacs can also use postgres so all pieces of it are free |
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| 17:00.59 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, it's not in a file. |
| 17:01.09 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, and it would be best if I can avoid putting it in one. |
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| 17:01.14 | yff | hi |
| 17:01.15 | Dewi | I suppose so. |
| 17:01.20 | yff | anyone using vhcs ? |
| 17:01.21 | r3tex | jim: aolserver seems to have had 10000 users steady since 1997 |
| 17:01.22 | r3tex | =P |
| 17:01.24 | r3tex | odd |
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| 17:01.37 | Dewi | Smerdyakov: you might have to live without the comforts of adduser, and go with useradd. I don't have any ideas. |
| 17:01.51 | smacnay | simonrvn: I also wonder if gcc-4.0 was at issue with some problems (kernel re-compiles) etc. |
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| 17:02.01 | jim | otoh, if you want to learn oracle, I think you can still get the oracle media free to play/learn with from otn |
| 17:02.02 | Smerdyakov | Dewi, it's easy to write a program that does this; the only challenge is doing it with a single command-line. |
| 17:02.19 | AMDfanboy | hi, everone, i just did the deb net install sucessfully and now i've got a text promt. i can't find any docs to set up from here, i figured it would install kde or gnome or something? can anyone point me to some docs and explain whats up? |
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| 17:02.20 | Dewi | mgh0^: that paste is of an openoffice ./configure. Like it says, you probably need to get that old sableVM out of your way. |
| 17:02.34 | dvs | AMDfanboy: apt-get install kde |
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| 17:02.57 | jim | r3tex: one caveat... openacs is wide-ranging and learning curve is steep for some parts |
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| 17:03.07 | AMDfanboy | ahh, thats all i gotta do? i could also do gnome? |
| 17:03.11 | jim | but it's self-documenting too |
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| 17:03.15 | dvs | AMDfanboy: You should have picked "Desktop environment" during the install by the way. |
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| 17:03.26 | mgh0^ | Dewi, how do i do this? |
| 17:03.31 | dvs | AMDfanboy: Yup, you can do gnome as well |
| 17:03.40 | AMDfanboy | dvs: what does that mean, desktop envrio? |
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| 17:03.51 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: you can repeat the part of the install that asked you that by saying "tasksel" |
| 17:03.56 | yff | hi |
| 17:03.56 | hackeron_ | I created a raid1 storage partition by copying md0 from /dev/.static/dev to /dev/ and doing mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-disks=2 /dev/sda6 /dev/sdb6 - it created and synced, but now I rebooted my machine and its gone. I thought mdadm did a persistent superbloack? -- How do I stop the partition from disappearing? |
| 17:03.56 | trace_ | Anyone play Terminus here? |
| 17:03.57 | dvs | AMDfanboy: It means Debian will install a GUI environment |
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| 17:04.19 | Dewi | mgh0^: I don't know how to remove the sableVM. Reverse however you installed it. :P |
| 17:04.19 | yff | how do you reach a slave harddisc on your debian system ? |
| 17:04.33 | pumpkin0 | yff: /dev/hdb |
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| 17:04.48 | Dewi | dvs: I disagree. Desktop is way more specific. |
| 17:04.52 | AMDfanboy | dvs: sure, i figured thats waht it was, but is this some kind of basic environment like CDE or something? |
| 17:04.52 | mgh0^ | hell, I don't know how i installed it |
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| 17:04.53 | yff | pumpkin > what else.. im new to debian ? |
| 17:05.12 | astronfestmon | hy |
| 17:05.19 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: "desktop environment" task installs gnome, or at least it did last time I did it |
| 17:05.21 | dvs | AMDfanboy: Huh? KDE is "on par" with GNOME. |
| 17:05.36 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: it also starts gdm on boot so you can log straight into gnome |
| 17:05.52 | pumpkin0 | yff: test as root: "mkdir /mnt/slave" "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/slave" "ls -la /mnt/slave" |
| 17:06.00 | astronfestmon | anyone can send me debian dvd please |
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| 17:06.07 | paulliu | Dewi: why gnome is default?? |
| 17:06.18 | astronfestmon | because in portugal we only have cd links |
| 17:06.36 | jim | r3tex: you might install this thing and decide you hate it... but... at least it's free... and there are alternatives like soap and stuff like that |
| 17:06.38 | dvs | paulliu: It's "freer" than KDE which uses a commercial GUI framework (Qt) |
| 17:06.41 | Dewi | paulliu: I don't know. One of them has to be. |
| 17:06.46 | AMDfanboy | huh, so i selected the desktop setting during the install, i figure youre right that it probbably installed on of the two, so you think it already installed gnome? |
| 17:06.52 | hackeron_ | anyone using software raid here who can help me? |
| 17:07.10 | dvs | AMDfanboy: If it started on a black and white screen, it was not selected. |
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| 17:07.28 | AMDfanboy | right i am just in text |
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| 17:07.40 | AMDfanboy | so i should run the install again? and do what differently? |
| 17:07.46 | pumpkin0 | AMDfanboy: or your graficcard is not supported out of the box.... |
| 17:07.50 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: did you get a debconf-looking thing popping up complaining it couldn't start GDM? |
| 17:07.58 | dvs | AMDfanboy: No need to run the install again, just as root type "apt-get install gnome" |
| 17:08.10 | AMDfanboy | sorry, brb |
| 17:08.24 | jim | r3tex: one thing, it doesn't use cgi (which is a horrible waste of resources... every hit you get would involve a disk access to get the binary loaded and a fork to start it)... there are MUCH better ways to do that, and they're integrated, and the API is pretty nice |
| 17:08.35 | Lorvija | Hey, to use all of my 1024mb of ram i should compile the new kernel and when doing "make menuconfig" select prosessor type and features > High memory support > 4gb. Is that right? |
| 17:09.11 | Dewi | Lorvija: 1024 mb is 1gb, not 4 |
| 17:09.12 | pumpkin0 | Lorvija: nope. Everything < 4GB is supported out-of-the-box |
| 17:09.15 | dvs | Lorvija: That's right but don't bother if you only have 1GB |
| 17:09.35 | Lorvija | dvs well then i got ~100mb ram which is not being used? (: |
| 17:09.42 | paulliu | dvs: maybe I should use gnome, not KDE.... |
| 17:09.46 | AMDfanboy | back |
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| 17:09.56 | jim | Lorvija: does free report your total ram |
| 17:09.57 | jim | ? |
| 17:09.59 | Lorvija | Dewi but there's only "off" "4gb" and "64gb" |
| 17:10.06 | dvs | Lorvija: Is it worth the extra overhead? |
| 17:10.09 | dvs | ;-) |
| 17:10.10 | Dewi | Lorvija: "off" |
| 17:10.19 | pumpkin0 | Lorvija: how did came up with 100MB wasted .. |
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| 17:10.27 | Lorvija | jim it says a bit under 900mb |
| 17:10.38 | jim | so it does see your ram |
| 17:10.39 | Dewi | Lorvija: is AGP stealing some? |
| 17:10.41 | jim | you're all set |
| 17:10.47 | Lorvija | Dewi shouldnt |
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| 17:10.59 | Lorvija | jim but where's that 100mb? (: |
| 17:11.00 | EdgEy | do you have 1GB of ram or 1GiB |
| 17:11.07 | dvs | Lorvija: Under 900MB? It should be about 960MB unless you're using built-in video. |
| 17:11.11 | Lorvija | EdgEy 2 512mb bars |
| 17:11.15 | Dewi | Lorvija: what's the exact number? |
| 17:11.16 | caphuso | grrr.. 2005 and people still think the only difference between iso-8859-1 and iso-8859-15 would be the euro sign |
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| 17:11.26 | Lorvija | Dewi Mem: 906736 |
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| 17:11.37 | dvs | caphuso: I do. What else is different? |
| 17:11.40 | AMDfanboy | right so when i installed it asked me is this a file server, a print server, etc., or a desktop machine. i selected desktop machine, in which case i would expect that it would install that stuff. but it brings me up to a basic prompt. its possible it might not recognize my gfx card, but thats unlikely, its a GF ti-4200 |
| 17:11.44 | pumpkin0 | Lorvija: is it a notebookor a cheap desktop-board ? |
| 17:11.53 | Lorvija | pumpkin0 custom build server (: |
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| 17:12.01 | caphuso | dvs: man iso-8859-foo |
| 17:12.02 | Mr-R | Lorvija: what version of the kernel do you use? |
| 17:12.06 | pumpkin0 | Lorvija: which board ? |
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| 17:12.09 | Lorvija | pumpkin0 well not "server" but works as server |
| 17:12.10 | drac | Err, I'm pretty sure Debian kernels have High Memory support. |
| 17:12.17 | drac | Except maybe 386 kernels. |
| 17:12.18 | drac | or 2.4 |
| 17:12.19 | Lorvija | Mr-R Linux tux 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 17:12.20 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: how did you select? just hitting enter? |
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| 17:12.29 | AMDfanboy | yeah, i think so |
| 17:12.37 | drac | Lorvija: What CPU ? |
| 17:12.44 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: it's a checkbox list. you need to select the items with space. |
| 17:12.48 | dvs | caphuso: Finnish and French? I don't care about that. ;-) |
| 17:13.00 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: try running tasksel again, maybe? |
| 17:13.04 | Lorvija | pumpkin0 ati kt4a-v ok it's not real server but normal built from workstation pieces to be "server".. |
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| 17:13.13 | Lorvija | drac 2.8ghz amd sempron |
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| 17:13.18 | drac | Lorvija: Try kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 then. |
| 17:13.21 | AMDfanboy | dewi: so you think i might haev not selected anything and just got the super basic install |
| 17:13.27 | drac | Lorvija: You should be using it anyway, instead of 386. |
| 17:13.33 | r3tex | jim: cool =) |
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| 17:13.41 | Lorvija | drac what's that k7? |
| 17:13.45 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: yeah. it's no big problem, it ran right at end of install and you can run it again. You'll soon find out if you run it. |
| 17:13.49 | RHluvr | i installed debian and x not working |
| 17:13.51 | drac | Lorvija: k7 = amd duron/athlon/sempron/and so on. |
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| 17:14.05 | Dewi | RHluvr: "not working" |
| 17:14.10 | Lorvija | drac ah okay.. so does stable have highmem enabled by default? |
| 17:14.27 | pumpkin0 | Lorvija: does it have a onBoard gfx ? |
| 17:14.28 | drac | Lorvija: I'm pretty sure it should have it. |
| 17:14.38 | gnufan | Yo - error from thunderbird refers to chrome://messenger/...../am-identities-list.xul - anyone know where this file is actually stored (is it compressed somewhere as the obvious dpkg -L and things failed me). |
| 17:14.42 | AMDfanboy | dewi: i'm running it right now, i think ur right! why does it come with mail server selected? |
| 17:14.44 | Lorvija | pumpkin0 nope, some ati radeon card if i recall right |
| 17:14.55 | jim | r3tex: to get the platform necessary to install openacs you need aolserver, postgresql and a driver that goes between the two (so that aolserver can talk to postgres, send it queries and get results) |
| 17:15.02 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: I don't know. Just how it is. |
| 17:15.04 | drac | Lorvija: Doesn't hurt to apt-get install it, and boot, and see. |
| 17:15.06 | Lorvija | drac hmm okay.. (: i just remember someone said stable doesnt have it enabled yet.. |
| 17:15.13 | Lorvija | drac yep i'll test |
| 17:15.22 | jim | then you unpack openacs, edit some config files and start aolserver |
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| 17:15.41 | jim | oh, and create a database |
| 17:15.50 | RHluvr | yeah ppl told me debian was tge best linux.. but x is broken |
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| 17:16.02 | r3tex | jim: ok |
| 17:16.05 | jim | don't worry about loading the data model... the web installer will do that :) |
| 17:16.10 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: once you have those broad tasks set up, you'll probably want to use synaptic or aptitude on a package-by-package basis |
| 17:16.28 | Dewi | AMDfanboy: or just apt-get from prompt |
| 17:17.07 | r3tex | allright |
| 17:17.10 | Dewi | RHluvr: that's very interesting. Works for me. Do you have a question? |
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| 17:17.38 | memin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.57 | Phr0zenKore | can somebody help me with removing kde? and i mean removing it COMPLETELY |
| 17:18.05 | G2 | anyway to clean up swap to flush out things not getting used? |
| 17:18.07 | jim | you fill out a little web form, hit start, and the data model will be loaded, and aolserver will terminate... when it's restarted (by you or by something like daemontools), you'll have a running (if plain-looking) web site |
| 17:18.12 | cheal | Phr0zenKore: ask #debian-kde |
| 17:18.21 | Phr0zenKore | cheal: they don't answer |
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| 17:18.24 | RHluvr | Amdzealot, amd sux bcos i had an amd and it got too hot |
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| 17:18.41 | takatumi | Phr0zenKore: /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 17:18.51 | AMDfanboy | dewi: during the install is there anyway to use rieser4 instead of 3.6? i hear it has some bug fixes in it |
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| 17:19.01 | Phr0zenKore | takatumi: that ain't removing it completely |
| 17:19.08 | drp | suggestions for a vnc client? |
| 17:19.09 | jim | RHluvr: then you did the installation of the cpu wrong... |
| 17:19.10 | Phr0zenKore | aptitute still says kde is there |
| 17:19.17 | Phr0zenKore | although apt-get does not. |
| 17:19.21 | cheal | Phr0zenKore: they did answer |
| 17:19.22 | jim | yes, you're right, they do run hot |
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| 17:19.40 | Phr0zenKore | cheal: yea but only removing arts doesn't do it whole.. |
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| 17:19.47 | memin | Hello which is the best ISO Image to install Debian Aon a nforce2 mobo? |
| 17:20.02 | Dewi | Phr0zenKore: maybe you care too much about its complete destruction |
| 17:20.03 | jim | and therefore you have to run a good heat sink/fan and squirt the thermal goop on there |
| 17:20.11 | cheal | memin: i386 ? |
| 17:20.20 | memin | cheal yes |
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| 17:20.34 | Phr0zenKore | well cheal, when i run aptitude it wants to install kde |
| 17:20.37 | Phr0zenKore | woopz |
| 17:20.46 | cheal | memin: what do you mean? the i386 netinstall? |
| 17:20.55 | Smerdyakov | What's the easiest way to run a shell command such that neither it nor its child processes show up in ps? For example, the command lines may contain passwords. |
| 17:20.58 | cheal | Phr0zenKore: that's an aptitude bug |
| 17:21.02 | RHluvr | so fck4ng what if it works 4 u?! it not work 4 me and it works in linspire |
| 17:21.09 | Phr0zenKore | cheal: how do i get rid of it? |
| 17:21.27 | memin | cheal what ISO Image can detect my netcard? |
| 17:21.30 | takatumi | RHluvr: /msg dpkg x problem |
| 17:21.39 | cheal | Phr0zenKore: you don't. aptitude is broken |
| 17:21.41 | AMDfanboy | is there a way to select rieserfs 4 instead of 3.6 during the install? |
| 17:21.46 | cheal | !tell Phr0zenKore about aptitude |
| 17:21.53 | Phr0zenKore | cheal: why is it installed on default, then? |
| 17:21.55 | cheal | AMDfanboy: no |
| 17:21.56 | Dewi | !tell dewi about aptitude |
| 17:21.57 | Phr0zenKore | by* |
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| 17:22.21 | cheal | Phr0zenKore: because other package managers have problems too |
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| 17:22.37 | AMDfanboy | cheal: thanks |
| 17:22.37 | Dewi | Phr0zenKore: were you expecting debian, one of the largest software systems in the world, to have zero bugs? |
| 17:22.44 | Phr0zenKore | Dewi: no |
| 17:22.49 | sandman | Anyone here use cpudyn? |
| 17:23.01 | Phr0zenKore | brb, dinner |
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| 17:23.13 | sandman | I need to change the sensitivity for when it changes frequencies... mine keeps switching my cpu from 1.6GHz to 200MHz every second |
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| 17:23.19 | sandman | So there's definately something wrong here |
| 17:23.34 | Dewi | Phr0zenKore: personally synaptic seems to work very well for me. |
| 17:23.37 | sandman | Also: Where can I put local commands? |
| 17:23.47 | sandman | Is there an /etc/init.d/local or some such? |
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| 17:24.05 | Lorvija | uhm did apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 17:24.06 | yff | pumpkin : > gives me an error : |
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| 17:24.11 | yff | pumpkin : unknown:/# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/slave |
| 17:24.11 | yff | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 17:24.11 | Lorvija | and when restarted it used the old one |
| 17:24.12 | RHluvr | your all ghey |
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| 17:24.20 | memin | cheal I download an ISO image but it doesn't autodect my eth0 so I am wandering which will detect it? |
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| 17:24.28 | tug | register <p18ser> |
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| 17:24.38 | sandman | RHluvr: Debian pwns j00, deadrat lu53r |
| 17:24.47 | Caelum | memin: try loading a module |
| 17:24.57 | memin | yes |
| 17:24.59 | RHluvr | fucking debian zelaot fagz |
| 17:25.09 | Dewi | !ops thingfish |
| 17:25.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: thingfish |
| 17:25.22 | cheal | memin: sorry. all ISOs detect my card here. |
| 17:25.24 | Dewi | !ops forget that, I meant RHluvr |
| 17:25.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: forget that, I meant RHluvr |
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| 17:25.27 | sandman | RHluvr: Also, you mean to spell it "you're", not your, as it is a contraction |
| 17:25.28 | memin | but it asks for the IRQ and I don't know that |
| 17:25.36 | cheal | memin: did you try installing with kernel 2.6? |
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| 17:25.41 | Caelum | memin: just press enter |
| 17:25.41 | Dewi | damn it. How did I typo that? I obviously need sleep. |
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| 17:25.43 | yff | how do i mount a second slave harddisc.... |
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| 17:25.54 | memin | Caelum yes |
| 17:26.10 | Dewi | thingfish: sorry about that dude :/ |
| 17:26.11 | Caelum | memin: so you loaded the wrong module then |
| 17:26.27 | Dewi | that's my cue to get some needed sleep, I guess. |
| 17:26.30 | Dewi | night guys. |
| 17:26.31 | sandman | "You feel the ground shake under your feet as caphuso's awesome power thunders across the land" |
| 17:26.33 | Manny | !seen Erich Schubert |
| 17:26.34 | dpkg | Manny: i haven't seen 'erich schubert' |
| 17:26.39 | thingfish | hehe no problem, Dewi. |
| 17:26.42 | Caelum | yff: does it show up on cfdisk /dev/hdb ? |
| 17:26.43 | Lorvija | uhm did apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 and when restarted it didnt use that image but the old one, checked lilo.conf and doesnt even mention the new kernel image. Also on kern.log it complains "using only 896mb ram, enable highmem. 896 lowmem available". I got 1024mb ram.. So why didn't apt modify the lilo? (: |
| 17:26.52 | thingfish | but you had me wondering there for a second. |
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| 17:26.56 | nite613 | is /srv important for anything? |
| 17:26.57 | yff | caelum one second ill look |
| 17:27.04 | Manny | !seen erich |
| 17:27.04 | dpkg | erich <n=erich@debian/developer/erich> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 23d 16h 11s ago, saying: 'etchian: my DSL modem has SIP built in. you can plug in three analog devices and a full ISDN s0 bus, and it will route over the normal phone (or ISDN) line or the internet via SIP, whichever you prefer...'. |
| 17:27.07 | memin | Caelum no I did not I loaded the rightone |
| 17:27.15 | Dewi | thingfish: yeah. th<tab> instead of rh<tab> without a proofread. Pathetic. See you later :P |
| 17:27.17 | yff | caelom : cannot open diskdrive |
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| 17:27.30 | Caelum | yff: check your /var/log/kern.log, see which disks it detects |
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| 17:27.45 | sandman | Where do I put commands I want executed upon boot? |
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| 17:27.46 | Caelum | memin: then it should work. Did you try going into a shell and doing ifconfig -a ? |
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| 17:28.05 | Caelum | sandman: see /etc/init.d/skeleton and man update-rc.d |
| 17:28.08 | AMDfanboy | memin: the net install does pick up an nf2 NIC |
| 17:28.14 | AMDfanboy | memin: i just did it |
| 17:28.16 | sandman | I need to have "iwconfig wlan0 channel 6 && iwconfig wlan0 essid f00" run @ startup before networking init script is run |
| 17:28.25 | Dewi | thingfish: it's people like me who dd over their root drive thinking it was "that other block device" |
| 17:28.28 | memin | Caelum no I did not |
| 17:28.30 | Caelum | sandman: see man interfaces |
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| 17:28.57 | Caelum | sandman: you can add "up" scripts to interfaces |
| 17:29.00 | takatumi | sandman: also man 7 wireless (part of wireless-tools iirc) |
| 17:29.22 | memin | Caelum I will try that to see if it works |
| 17:29.40 | Gijs` | Somebody knows a nice tool to draw network diagrams ? |
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| 17:30.05 | Dewi | Gijs`: people use "dia" to draw diagrams. I haven't used it. |
| 17:30.08 | yff | caelom : only one is detected |
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| 17:30.20 | Caelum | yff: then you have the cabling wrong |
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| 17:30.54 | Gijs` | Dewi: Thanks. It seems to support network diagrams! :) |
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| 17:31.00 | sandman | So I should place up iwconfig wlan0 channel 6 and the other stuff on the line after auto wlan0? |
| 17:31.02 | yff | Caelum : im on a hosted server..... |
| 17:31.09 | sandman | Or does Debian parse the entire file, then execute things in proper order anywho |
| 17:31.13 | AMDfanboy | memin: net install picks up the NF2 NIC |
| 17:31.15 | yff | they told be they would put it back on |
| 17:31.22 | yff | shitty service.... |
| 17:31.27 | Caelum | yff: heh, ouch |
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| 17:34.39 | ali4728 | Newbie needs help, I cant logon to my computer (only Failsafe Terminal ) got this Error http://pastebin.com/379718 I deleted ".ICEauthority" but still the same Any suggestions appreciated. |
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| 17:37.21 | xoz | ali4728: goto console. ctrl-alt-f1 |
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| 17:37.27 | yff | caelum : i ordered the DC to find a solution on the missing harddisc... lets see what happens |
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| 17:37.46 | ali4728 | xoz, I need the desktop Term OK |
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| 17:38.13 | xoz | ali4728: troubleshoot it in the console. |
| 17:38.16 | beardy | ali4728: Ctrl-Alt-F1 - F6 |
| 17:38.24 | chedabob | kk some more questions...ntfs support?i downloaded all the packages containing ntfs but cant mount my ntfs drives. any ideas? |
| 17:38.29 | ali4728 | xoz, yeah but how?? |
| 17:38.48 | nvz | what the hell is with this widescreen view on movies anyhow.. god.. so stupid :P |
| 17:38.53 | xoz | ali4728: are you in the console and have logon? |
| 17:39.01 | ali4728 | yeap |
| 17:39.14 | themusicgod1 | w00t I found it nm |
| 17:39.21 | xoz | ali4728: kill your gdm or kdm or xdm |
| 17:39.42 | ali4728 | xoz, can u write exact command pls thx |
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| 17:39.56 | ali4728 | xoz, I am a newbie |
| 17:40.02 | xoz | ali4728: /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 17:40.06 | xoz | ali4728: /etc/init.d/gsm stop |
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| 17:40.08 | xoz | ali4728: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 17:40.15 | ali4728 | xoz, OK let me try |
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| 17:40.33 | xoz | ali4728: and /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
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| 17:40.38 | joaopaulo | after an upgrade this week the fonts of X got wierd, some ideia about it ? |
| 17:40.55 | drac | joaopaulo: With those details.. |
| 17:40.56 | drac | !any idea |
| 17:40.57 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of rutabagas, a little WD-40, and 42 starving dairy cows. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 17:41.04 | xoz | joaopaulo: weird in what sense? |
| 17:41.16 | chedabob | LOL |
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| 17:41.45 | ali4728 | xoz, it stopped it now ? |
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| 17:41.51 | joaopaulo | drac, xoz, i don't remeber the name of the packages. all fonts got ugly, like bad quality |
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| 17:41.56 | xoz | ali4728: rm .Xauthority |
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| 17:42.48 | ali4728 | xoz, thats done too |
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| 17:42.52 | drac | joaopaulo: Check your Anti-Aliasing and Hinting options, from your Window Manager options, or try 'dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig' |
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| 17:43.31 | xoz | ali4728: try, startx ... see if you can have X |
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| 17:43.47 | chedabob | how do i get ntfs drives to mount? |
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| 17:43.57 | xoz | ali4728: or tell us the error in the console |
| 17:44.02 | ali4728 | xoz, command? |
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| 17:44.10 | xoz | ali4728: startx |
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| 17:45.28 | ali4728 | xoz, went back to root |
| 17:45.43 | xoz | ali4728: any error |
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| 17:46.21 | xoz | ali4728: no error message? |
| 17:46.22 | ali4728 | xoz, waiting for xserver to shut down and a screenfull of stuf |
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| 17:46.56 | xoz | ali4728: ps ax | grep X |
| 17:46.57 | ali4728 | nope |
| 17:47.11 | nite613 | How do I cd into/rename/delete a directory starting with a '-' ? Like -=Stuff/ I usually use mc if I'm stuck, but that's not thre right answer :P |
| 17:47.12 | xoz | ali4728: check if you have X running |
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| 17:48.04 | jim | nite613: feel like a researcher... man rm :) |
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| 17:48.51 | nite613 | jim: thanks, I'll take a look there, I'd looked in a bunch of other places but came up dry |
| 17:49.06 | ali4728 | xoz, just courier as far as I see |
| 17:49.20 | nite613 | oh god, that makes so much sense. ./-=Stuff :P |
| 17:49.37 | zinx | there's other ways for GNU utilities |
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| 17:49.51 | jim | Heyy! u dd t! |
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| 17:50.14 | rama_ | what debian package gives mod-rewrite capability to apache2? |
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| 17:50.16 | xoz | ali4728: no idea. check the message in /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
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| 17:50.25 | xoz | ali4728: no idea. check the message in /var/log/Xorg.1.log |
| 17:50.35 | xoz | ali4728: no idea. check the message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 17:50.50 | ali4728 | xoz, OK thnx alot |
| 17:51.09 | jim | rama_: what non-debian thing gives you mod-rewrite? |
| 17:51.31 | curt | I downloaded debian-testing-ia64-netinst and it doesn't have the autoruns to boot |
| 17:51.44 | jim | "autorun"? |
| 17:51.58 | curt | how or where can I get ia64-testing to make a boot cd for a netinstall? |
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| 17:52.16 | jim | why not just get stable then upgrade? |
| 17:52.20 | curt | that iso won't boot when i burn it to a disk |
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| 17:52.23 | sowath | hi |
| 17:52.44 | jim | maybe you're not burning it right? |
| 17:52.45 | curt | everytime i get stable i can't get 2.6 without it panicing |
| 17:53.00 | pumpkin0 | curt: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/ia64/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-ia64-netinst.iso |
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| 17:53.19 | sowath | someone able to help me with kaffeine? - can't acces the dvb channels, servicescan is doing fine |
| 17:53.21 | jim | then use 2.4, upgrade to testing and go from there (NOTE... that might not solve the 2.6 issue) |
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| 17:53.33 | rama_ | jim, my apache2 webserver needs a mod-rewrite capability. I wonder if there was a debian package to supplement the apache2 package? |
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| 17:53.44 | curt | chekcing that link now pumpkin) |
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| 17:54.13 | jim | rama_: there might be... but first get the name of the exact thing you need... then search packages.debian.org for it |
| 17:54.14 | xeroso | i restarted X with a dialup connection active, when i open kppp to dial, he says "the modem is busy". how i can "kill" the conection? |
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| 17:54.34 | pumpkin0 | curt: that's the normal net-install link from the debian-HP. Are you sure you are on ia64 ? and not i686-64 ? |
| 17:54.35 | shai_ | hi, i'm trying to do "set path = ($PATH ~/myscripts)" (because i want a path to myscripts) but when i do this i can't even do the normal commands like "ls", etc.... i think it overwrites my path or something? |
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| 17:55.07 | curt | no |
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| 17:55.14 | Caelum | shai_: in bash or zsh, it would be export PATH=$PATH:~/myscripts |
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| 17:55.20 | anda-at | hi |
| 17:55.26 | curt | it is a system with the 64bit intel processor |
| 17:55.29 | pumpkin0 | curt: what CPU are you on ? |
| 17:55.38 | shai_ | Caelum, this is csh ? |
| 17:55.41 | curt | is that ia64 or i686-64 |
| 17:55.44 | pumpkin0 | curt: itanium or Pentium ? |
| 17:55.46 | ali4728 | xoz, All this happened after I installed a mail server (postfix + courier + amaviss-new + clam AV + spamassassin ) do u think I messed up my user account ? |
| 17:55.52 | curt | pentium |
| 17:55.57 | Caelum | shai_: echo $SHELL |
| 17:56.08 | pumpkin0 | curt: DONT use ia64. wait a sec .. |
| 17:56.15 | Caelum | shai_: it looks like the syntax you used is csh |
| 17:56.21 | shai_ | Caelum, /bin/csh |
| 17:56.39 | pumpkin0 | curt: use the normal i386-image: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 17:56.49 | Caelum | shai_: echo $PATH |
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| 17:57.15 | shai_ | Caelum, /usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/X11/bin:/cs/class/cs170/cs161/bin/:/cs/class/cs170/cs161/tools/:/cs/class/cs170/cs161/root/:. |
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| 17:57.52 | pumpkin0 | curt: you are confusing itanium (ia64, a big-as server system) with AMD64 (or i686-64, normal PC with 64bit support) |
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| 17:58.01 | Caelum | shai_: looks fine, dunno why you use csh though |
| 17:58.09 | chedabob | does anybody know how to mount ntfs partitions? |
| 17:58.17 | curt | that is going to have 64bit support for my Intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 800MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 EM64T Processor |
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| 17:58.41 | Caelum | chedabob: very carefully, mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/device /mountpoint |
| 17:58.53 | pumpkin0 | curt: no and yes. You will need to change the kernel after the install. |
| 17:59.08 | curt | pray-tell... |
| 17:59.16 | caphuso | shai_: use $path not $PATH |
| 17:59.28 | xeroso | i restarted X with a dialup connection active, when i open kppp to dial, he says "the modem is busy". how i can "kill" the conection? |
| 17:59.32 | pumpkin0 | curt: the 64Bit-support only brings you suppot for more than 64 GB RAM. Nothing more. |
| 17:59.41 | chedabob | caelum: thanks |
| 17:59.55 | curt | 64 gb ram, i got 1 |
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| 18:00.29 | pumpkin0 | curt: see ? stick to the normal i386-install-CD. That's more than enough for most users. |
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| 18:00.45 | shai_ | caphuso, worked! thanks |
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| 18:01.04 | curt | so 64-bit terminology is a spoof? |
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| 18:01.11 | pumpkin0 | curt: yes. |
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| 18:01.19 | curt | i mean who would have 64gb ram anyway? |
| 18:01.43 | curt | I thought that was the difference between amd and intel |
| 18:01.49 | jim | curt: no, it's real... but i386 should work fine to start with |
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| 18:02.02 | curt | amd was 64 bit and could say they where faster then they really where |
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| 18:02.35 | pumpkin0 | curt: AMD builds the better 32 Bit chips. And they can do 64 Bit... |
| 18:02.37 | Destroyer | Does anyone know if alsa works with 2.6.8 kernel? |
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| 18:03.12 | jim | Destroyer: are you having a problem with it? if so... provide the info |
| 18:03.24 | jim | there are a LOT of people here, so no polls.' |
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| 18:04.03 | Destroyer | jim: yeah, it works perfect with 2.6.12 but not with 2.6.8 it doesn't recognize any sound |
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| 18:04.12 | pumpkin0 | curt: the only progs getting faster dune to 64Bit are Databe |
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| 18:04.22 | curt | is there really any speed difference in the intel 32 vs. 64 bit processors? |
| 18:04.37 | zinx | Destroyer: i'm not sure i see what the problem is |
| 18:04.37 | pumpkin0 | curt: with current software: no. |
| 18:04.58 | jim | Destroyer: and what's otherwise wrong with 2.6.12? |
| 18:05.00 | curt | you mean like mysql/postgresql etc etc |
| 18:05.02 | zinx | Destroyer: I can understand if it worked in 2.6.8 but not with 2.6.12.. but the other way around? who cares? |
| 18:05.05 | pumpkin0 | curt: only for databases. Maybe for 1-2 games... |
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| 18:05.36 | Destroyer | zinx: my DRI video drivers only work with 2.6.8 and i'd like sound with video lol |
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| 18:05.50 | jim | nudri? |
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| 18:06.05 | jim | nude rye? |
| 18:06.11 | Destroyer | i'm not sure, i just installed it from dri.sf.net - followed instructions |
| 18:06.23 | curt | my preference has been to use unstable release and i have before used testing-netinstall then changed my sources to unstable |
| 18:06.28 | jim | does that site have info about 2.6.12 |
| 18:06.32 | curt | is there a unstable-netinstall |
| 18:06.43 | Destroyer | not that i saw |
| 18:06.45 | zinx | Destroyer: what video card? |
| 18:06.47 | jim | curt: probably no |
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| 18:07.01 | Destroyer | mobile radeon 9000 IGP |
| 18:07.04 | jim | curt: btw, you're on your own with unstable |
| 18:07.09 | pumpkin0 | curt: don't go unstable now. They are changing from gcc 3XX to gcc4. unstable is really, really unstable now... |
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| 18:07.31 | zinx | Destroyer: hmm, i'd have figured the stock debian stuff would have support for that |
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| 18:07.41 | curt | interesting, but that's kindof why i like it |
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| 18:08.01 | Destroyer | zinx: what do you mean by stock debian stuff? |
| 18:08.03 | curt | when would stable get gcc4 ~next millenium? |
| 18:08.13 | zinx | Destroyer: i mean the stock X packages |
| 18:08.17 | inc|freaky | asuffield: can you help me with this problem? |
| 18:08.20 | zinx | Destroyer: the ones that come with the distribution |
| 18:08.21 | pumpkin0 | curt: use stable for installing and change to testing if you need newer stuff. gcc4 may need some time... |
| 18:08.35 | Destroyer | zinx: it doesn't have 3D support, glxgears runs at like 60 |
| 18:08.42 | curt | all i really wanted from unstable was gutenprint anyway |
| 18:08.46 | pumpkin0 | curt: gcc 2XX => gc3 took 6 months. |
| 18:08.52 | jim | inc|freaky: probably you're going to have to determine and fix the problem... if you can read, you can check the bts |
| 18:08.53 | curt | to get my stupid epson printer to work right |
| 18:09.06 | zinx | Destroyer: sure the problem isn't that you hadn't configured it to use 3d? |
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| 18:09.30 | jim | curt: you could probably get the debian source and build under testing or even stable |
| 18:09.43 | zinx | Destroyer: in any case, you've most likely completely hosed your system now |
| 18:09.52 | Destroyer | how so? |
| 18:09.52 | zinx | Destroyer: as far as DRI is concerned |
| 18:09.56 | curt | how do you install .debs like gutenprint from unstable without upgrading the unstable package |
| 18:10.11 | zinx | Destroyer: you went around the package management. |
| 18:10.11 | jim | curt: you BUILD the packages |
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| 18:10.26 | Destroyer | well, DRI isn't a concern, it works, alsa is whats not working |
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| 18:10.31 | zinx | Destroyer: and likely have some broken hybrid system that no one knows how to fix ;) |
| 18:10.33 | pumpkin0 | curt: ompiling the stuff from -source packages. |
| 18:10.37 | zinx | Destroyer: no, your problem is that DRI isn't working in 2.6.12 |
| 18:10.41 | curt | not that easy, at least not like apt-get install gutenprint |
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| 18:10.47 | zinx | Destroyer: Not that audio isn't working in 2.6.8. |
| 18:10.58 | jim | nope, but might work |
| 18:11.03 | Destroyer | zinx: hmm, i never thought of it that way |
| 18:11.06 | jim | it's not that much harder |
| 18:11.10 | darkness | Silly question.Does sarge work differently to woody on adding packages like apt-get install irssi? |
| 18:11.35 | pumpkin0 | darkness: on the surface: no. |
| 18:11.37 | zinx | Destroyer: anyway, you're on your own fixing DRI, since you've manually installed it ;) |
| 18:11.42 | jim | well the package format is the same |
| 18:12.07 | darkness | Just that i've just installed sarge and apt-get install doesn't work? |
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| 18:12.20 | ABRAXAS77 | hello to all |
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| 18:12.24 | Destroyer | zinx: yeah i hear yah, the problem with DRI on 2.6.12 was invalid module format |
| 18:12.25 | pumpkin0 | darkness: what error-msg do you get ? |
| 18:12.37 | darkness | No packages to install. |
| 18:12.52 | darkness | Unless irssi is listed differently? |
| 18:12.52 | zinx | Destroyer: operator error :/ |
| 18:13.03 | pumpkin0 | darkness: try "apt-get update" |
| 18:13.05 | Destroyer | zinx: as in: i'm a noob? |
| 18:13.14 | zinx | Destroyer: pretty much ;) |
| 18:13.15 | darkness | I tried apt-cache irssi |
| 18:13.28 | zinx | Destroyer: the module you're trying to load isn't for the kernel you're running, or it's not even a module at all |
| 18:13.31 | curt | pumpkin0: what where you saying earlier about updating the kernal after install to get 64-bit support? |
| 18:13.33 | xelam | apt-get install irssi-text |
| 18:13.38 | jim | darkness: could be. apt-cache search irssi |
| 18:13.41 | zinx | Destroyer: dmesg will sometimes tell you more.. if it doesn't, it's not a module at all ;) |
| 18:13.46 | xelam | it's irssi-text :p |
| 18:13.50 | Destroyer | zinx: haha ok, i'll try looking around for a solution to .12 |
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| 18:14.17 | pumpkin0 | curt: there are kernel-apckages for each CPU-type. You just install them later, after installing the rest of the system |
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| 18:15.51 | inc|freaky | jim: i checked the bts, my problem is listed there, but that person says something about libc6 and that he just reinstalled blootbot but that doesnt work for me :(( |
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| 18:16.23 | pumpkin0 | curt: if you want a 64bit-only-system: go gentoo. Recompiling debian to 64Bit is a loooonnnngggg operation. |
| 18:16.25 | jim | inc|freaky: who is maintainer? |
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| 18:16.37 | curt | like this one: kernel-image-2.6.8-11-em64t-p4 what is the difference between that and smp |
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| 18:16.48 | inc|freaky | jim: Neil McGovern i guess |
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| 18:16.57 | pumpkin0 | curt: SMP => 2 or more CPUs. |
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| 18:17.10 | jim | inc|freaky: who filed that bug report? |
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| 18:17.44 | inc|freaky | Clifroy Henry but i just see that it isnt the same error |
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| 18:18.11 | inc|freaky | oops it is |
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| 18:18.30 | jim | inc|freaky: ok, bug report number? |
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| 18:18.44 | inc|freaky | #325076 |
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| 18:19.28 | jim | what version of blootbot do you have? |
| 18:19.59 | jim | creating tables that are already there |
| 18:20.04 | jim | is that the problem? |
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| 18:20.17 | jim | do you know what a table is? |
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| 18:20.35 | new2linux | I am running debian version 3.1. I mounted a fat32 partition to the root level ( /added_partition), but I could not make it writable by normal user...only root can write to it....can you help please...even changing its mode did not work or chown...could you help please?!!:) |
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| 18:20.58 | inc|freaky | at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Socket.pm line 201 > Socket::sockaddr_in(6667, 'undef') called at /usr/share/blootbot/src/IRC .... |
| 18:21.10 | AMDfanboy | doing the install, anyone have a preference for video driver for a nvidia geforce Ti-4200, would it be nv? anything better? |
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| 18:21.23 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: did you add the partition to /etc/fstab ? |
| 18:21.24 | jim | inc|freaky: does your problem have anything to do with creating tables? |
| 18:21.28 | shai_ | anyone know if the 'alias' command supports arguments? |
| 18:21.41 | inc|freaky | jim: no. |
| 18:21.53 | Trajan | hi all |
| 18:22.05 | caphuso | shai_: in csh? yes. good luck... |
| 18:22.10 | inc|freaky | jim: its the one i just said: at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Socket.pm line 201 > Socket::sockaddr_in(6667, 'undef') called at /usr/share/blootbot/src/IRC .... |
| 18:22.17 | jim | ok, not totally sure this bug report has to do with you |
| 18:22.17 | new2linux | pumpkin0:/dev/hda2 /fat32 msdos defaults 0 2 |
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| 18:22.32 | inc|freaky | jim: its the same showing there |
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| 18:23.00 | jim | are all of the circumstances the same? |
| 18:23.01 | inc|freaky | Uncaught exception from user code: |
| 18:23.01 | inc|freaky | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:23.03 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: change defaults to defaults,rw |
| 18:23.04 | shai_ | caphuso, cool tnx |
| 18:23.06 | inc|freaky | @ jim |
| 18:23.07 | ravenbird | [jim] jim |
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| 18:23.23 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: and msdos to vfat |
| 18:23.54 | inc|freaky | jim: main::irc('demon1.uk.quakenet.org:6668', 6667) called at /usr/share/blootbot/src/IRC/Irc.pl line 43 i guess i found it wait |
| 18:23.56 | jim | @start a barbie war |
| 18:23.57 | ravenbird | guns are hard! |
| 18:24.04 | jim | @stop a barbie war |
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| 18:25.12 | jim | !stop a barbie war |
| 18:25.12 | dpkg | wars are too HARD! let's just all be friends and go shopping! |
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| 18:26.08 | DarKWish | holas |
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| 18:26.27 | jim | inc|freaky: maybe the problem is you don't have a database driver installed or if you do it's malfunctioning |
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| 18:26.38 | DarKWish | alguien que hable espańol? |
| 18:26.39 | DarKWish | :P |
| 18:26.49 | jim | !es |
| 18:26.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:27.01 | DarKWish | ahahaa |
| 18:27.05 | inc|freaky | jim: do you know how i can set the port it connects to to 6668 because 6667 is blocked by the router :\ writing irc.server.tld:6668 seems to show this error i get and main::irc('demon1.uk.quakenet.org:6668', 6667) so the problem is i dont know how to set the port lol |
| 18:27.07 | DarKWish | dont worry:P |
| 18:27.18 | DarKWish | i cuestion ehm speak spanish here |
| 18:27.19 | DarKWish | ;D |
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| 18:27.45 | jim | \inc|freaky: aha. so you edited the config and tried to add the port |
| 18:27.53 | inc|freaky | right :) |
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| 18:28.00 | jim | ok, so: are you sure that is how to change the port? |
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| 18:28.23 | inc|freaky | jim: no that is what i just said its showing this error |
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| 18:28.25 | jim | (why didn't you say so in the first place :P that could have saved us some time :P) |
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| 18:28.36 | inc|freaky | jim: i found that out myself ;) |
| 18:28.43 | inc|freaky | jim: i dont know perl and i was confused of the error |
| 18:28.48 | inc|freaky | *by |
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| 18:29.19 | jim | ok, well, I can't help that part too well :) you're going to have to learn something... |
| 18:29.30 | Trajan | is it possible to mix deposits without problem ? i use sarge |
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| 18:29.43 | inc|freaky | jim: blootbot doesnt include documentation i think ill try editing IRC.pl which connects to irc-servers and just set port 6668 there |
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| 18:30.16 | jim | inc|freaky: you should read the doc for Net::IRC |
| 18:30.42 | Revenger | blootbot.servers. |
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| 18:30.47 | jim | then you might find out how to change the port... BUT... this is an area of perl that will take some understanding |
| 18:30.48 | inc|freaky | jim: isnt that somewhere in the settings which port it should connect to? are you familiar with blootbot? where can i find the doc for Net::IRC? |
| 18:30.49 | TwistedEmotions | *67 bocks caller id right? |
| 18:30.52 | Revenger | irc.server.tld:port |
| 18:31.01 | TwistedEmotions | *blocks |
| 18:31.03 | new2linux | pumpkin0: I changed default to defaults,wr than save it, after that I tried to change msdos to vfat, but it tells me that the file is read oonly and does not want to edit it...any clues please? |
| 18:31.14 | inc|freaky | Revenger: no, thats what produces my error |
| 18:31.18 | jim | Revenger: that's what he's got, I guess |
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| 18:31.27 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: try ls -la /etc/fstab |
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| 18:31.31 | jim | show the line you changed |
| 18:31.31 | Revenger | strange that that works for me for ages. |
| 18:31.35 | inc|freaky | i tried putting a space between removing the : but doesnt work |
| 18:31.53 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: defaults.rw not defaults.wr |
| 18:31.56 | inc|freaky | Revenger: are you using blootbot? |
| 18:32.03 | ali4728 | Does any one know what this means :x-session manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgnimeui-2.so.0: indefined symbol: D$^DC^D$^A" startx wont work! |
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| 18:32.07 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: defaults,rw ... |
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| 18:32.14 | d0uglas | i lost my wall outlet cord/converter/power supply thing for my laptop. Is there anything special about these suckers or can i go to radio shack and get a simple thing that cranks out the same volts and what not? |
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| 18:32.18 | jim | inc|freaky: show the line you changed |
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| 18:32.27 | Revenger | yes. |
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| 18:32.53 | bbrazil | ali4728: do a ldd on startx |
| 18:32.54 | new2linux | pumpkin0: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 735 2005-10-01 12:24 /etc/fstab |
| 18:32.54 | inc|freaky | i changed it to just irc.server.tld its in a extra-file (blootbot.servers) or nearly that ... i just write in there irc.server.tld as before there was standing irc.freenode.net |
| 18:33.02 | CompWizrd | d0uglas: ebay's probably a lot safer |
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| 18:33.08 | bbrazil | inc|freaky: output of 'id' |
| 18:33.09 | inc|freaky | its just that a router blocks port 6667 so i cant use it |
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| 18:33.20 | jim | inc|freaky: show the line you changed |
| 18:33.20 | bbrazil | inc|freaky: sorry, not for you |
| 18:33.22 | CompWizrd | like an ibm thinkpad adapter will cost about 5-10 dollars on ebay |
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| 18:33.35 | Revenger | erm. |
| 18:33.36 | ali4728 | bbrazil, how is that I am an newbie sorry! |
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| 18:33.40 | bbrazil | pumpkin0: you running as root? |
| 18:33.49 | Revenger | you put "irc.server.tld" in there ? |
| 18:33.51 | Revenger | omg. |
| 18:33.55 | jim | :) |
| 18:33.56 | inc|freaky | right |
| 18:33.58 | d0uglas | CompWizrd: but i like living on the edge |
| 18:34.00 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: login as root => chmod 777 /etc/fstab |
| 18:34.00 | bbrazil | ali4728: find startx (which startx) and pass it to ldd |
| 18:34.04 | d0uglas | oh wait i think i know where it is |
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| 18:34.22 | jim | he put the right thing in there before |
| 18:34.25 | inc|freaky | jim: demon1.uk.quakenet.org <-- thats the line which is in there now, i was changing it to: demon1.uk.quakenet.org:6668 and demon1.uk.quakenet.org 6668 |
| 18:34.35 | Revenger | oh. so there is hope after all |
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| 18:34.42 | jim | inc|freaky: show the ENTIRE line you changed |
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| 18:34.47 | jim | LINE |
| 18:34.50 | inc|freaky | jim: it is the ENTIRE line |
| 18:34.54 | ali4728 | bbrazil, can u give me the commands ols? |
| 18:34.56 | new2linux | pumpkin0: => chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/fstab': Read-only file system |
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| 18:35.05 | bbrazil | ali4728: I already did |
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| 18:35.18 | inc|freaky | jim: its a file called bloobot.servers where you write in your servers one by one line by line |
| 18:35.29 | jim | it is? is this a config file? |
| 18:35.32 | jim | oh |
| 18:35.48 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: login as root => "mount". that does it say on the /-line ? |
| 18:35.52 | inc|freaky | jim: yea thats what im telling u all the time hehe |
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| 18:36.08 | jim | ok... |
| 18:36.18 | jim | when you don't do that, |
| 18:36.27 | jim | do you get this error? |
| 18:36.34 | inc|freaky | no i dont, it connects |
| 18:36.38 | jim | aha |
| 18:36.49 | jim | so this is the root of the problem, yes? |
| 18:36.52 | inc|freaky | but it tries to connect to port 6667 and i have to connect to port 6668 because 6667 is blocked by a router |
| 18:37.02 | jim | yes I understand that part |
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| 18:37.23 | Revenger | [20:37] *LadyByte* Currently I'm hooked up to eu.undernet.org:6668 but only for 1d 11m 52s. I had to reconnect 5 times. |
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| 18:37.27 | Revenger | its not hard. |
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| 18:37.47 | inc|freaky | jim: awkay that is what i think is the problem i dont know if it connects yet. i need to know how to change the port for servers |
| 18:37.51 | jim | Revenger: could you ask ladybyte what she changed |
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| 18:38.02 | inc|freaky | jim: and i cant do it the standart-way putting :port or space port behind |
| 18:38.08 | new2linux | pumpking: I loaded the partition but still no luck with writing to it... |
| 18:38.13 | ali4728 | bbrazil, I found the file how do I " and pass it to ldd" ?? cmd pls :) thnx |
| 18:38.23 | Revenger | jim: i changed it. and i told you to what :P |
| 18:38.30 | Revenger | "eu.undernet.org:6668" |
| 18:38.35 | bbrazil | ali4728: please use english. as you would with any other command |
| 18:38.40 | jim | did you quote it? |
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| 18:38.53 | Revenger | no. |
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| 18:39.05 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: if /etc/fstab is on a read-only fs .... something's very fishy on your system. just run mount without any arguments. |
| 18:39.06 | jim | ok, so he shouldn't try quoting it in the file |
| 18:39.11 | ali4728 | bbrazil, I found the file "startx" how do I " and pass it to ldd" ?? |
| 18:39.14 | bbrazil | Net:IRC takes port as a seperate parameter IIRC |
| 18:39.32 | bbrazil | ali4728: man ldd |
| 18:39.33 | jim | so it would have to try splitting on : |
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| 18:40.02 | inc|freaky | bbrazil: yes, but in the file where it does (Irc.pl there is no "6667" so it has to be configureable somewhere i dont know perl |
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| 18:40.34 | inc|freaky | bbrazil: i looked at the config and there is no "6667" either |
| 18:40.43 | bbrazil | inc|freaky: 6667 is the default |
| 18:40.45 | new2linux | pumpkin0:this is the output from the mount command ( last line) => /dev/hda2 on /fat32 type msdos (rw) |
| 18:41.02 | inc|freaky | bbrazil: that port is blocked by a router @ the business i cant open it. |
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| 18:41.07 | jim | inc|freaky: I' |
| 18:41.16 | bbrazil | inc|freaky: have you considered dnat? |
| 18:41.19 | jim | inc|freaky: I'm doing man Net::IRC and... |
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| 18:41.51 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: OK... post everything there: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , including your /etc/fstab |
| 18:41.53 | jim | it says something about its ability to understand "$conn = $irc->newconn( ... )" |
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| 18:42.11 | Aragorn_Guardian | hi all |
| 18:42.19 | jim | is there a bloot.pl or something like that? |
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| 18:42.31 | jim | how do you start the bloot |
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| 18:42.49 | Aragorn_Guardian | i installed debian from netinstall |
| 18:43.07 | ali4728 | bbrazil, "ldd /usr/startx/" Error: not a dynamic executable! |
| 18:43.22 | inc|freaky | jim: using blootbot nothing else no parameters |
| 18:43.22 | bbrazil | ali4728: thats not the right path |
| 18:43.24 | jim | Aragorn_Guardian: cool :) how do you like it |
| 18:43.32 | ali4728 | bbrazil, "ldd /usr/bin/startx/" Error: not a dynamic executable! |
| 18:43.40 | Aragorn_Guardian | after instalation, a lot of packages was downloaded. i need know how can i save those packages, for instalations in others machines |
| 18:43.41 | bbrazil | ali4728: startsx isn't a directory |
| 18:43.43 | jim | inc|freaky: "which blootbot" |
| 18:43.44 | inc|freaky | jim: i guess ill jsut change the code itself as i cant find 6667 in any files in that directory |
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| 18:43.50 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: great job....debian is fantastic |
| 18:44.03 | bbrazil | ali4728: squid, apt-proxy /var/apt-cache(?) |
| 18:44.10 | bbrazil | Aragorn_Guardian: ^ |
| 18:44.25 | Aragorn_Guardian | i am in a ubuntu know...debian is for a decent way to use the servers...hehehe |
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| 18:44.35 | Aragorn_Guardian | my memory never was so empty...hehehe |
| 18:44.51 | Aragorn_Guardian | and I came from slack...debian is superb... 8) |
| 18:45.04 | new2linux | pumpking0: sorry I can not , cause the conection I ma using know is only limited to chatting .....I can not use the browser cause I have to pay...maybe after 5hrs if you will be still there....thank you for your help anyway.... |
| 18:45.29 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: hmmm... wait a sec |
| 18:45.42 | Aragorn_Guardian | I stil have some things to study, many to ask... 8) going happy with my debian box |
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| 18:46.11 | jim | inc|freaky: that's one way... do you see how? |
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| 18:46.34 | inc|freaky | do i have to put it into ""? |
| 18:46.39 | inc|freaky | i dont know perl ^^ |
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| 18:46.57 | new2linux | pumpkin: can I tranfer the file to you via skype? ... |
| 18:46.58 | inc|freaky | jim: port is more than once in the file so it might make some problems there must be a easy way to pass a port to it |
| 18:47.02 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: what does it say "mount | grep rootfs" |
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| 18:47.13 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: after install, all my packages was gone.... cant find in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 18:47.16 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: no skype here ... |
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| 18:47.34 | blastmanu | gi |
| 18:47.35 | bbrazil | inc|freaky: in the connect command add a 'port => 6667,' |
| 18:47.36 | blastmanu | hi |
| 18:47.42 | bbrazil | *6668 |
| 18:47.52 | inc|freaky | bbrazil: ok |
| 18:47.53 | new2linux | pumpkin0: no ouput at all ( nothing) |
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| 18:48.04 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: any suggestion, for save my packages after installl on netins? |
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| 18:48.32 | jim | Aragorn_Guardian: this was right after reboot? or did you install more stuff after? |
| 18:48.51 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: argh... OK here's the line i'm searching: "rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)" . The important bit is "on /" |
| 18:49.08 | new2linux | pumpki0 : sorry |
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| 18:50.36 | new2linux | pumkin: the is no such a thing for rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) in either fstab or when typing mount command |
| 18:50.59 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: right now you seem to have a read-only fs as /. That's very strange and should not happen. It will crash the system anytime soon. "mount -o remount,rw /" should fix that. |
| 18:52.09 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: soon after reboot |
| 18:52.18 | Aragorn_Guardian | sorry... |
| 18:52.20 | inc|freaky | bbrazil: that doesnt work |
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| 18:52.30 | Aragorn_Guardian | soon after my first package instaled after reboot |
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| 18:52.32 | Aragorn_Guardian | 8) |
| 18:52.40 | inc|freaky | [ 163] !ERROR! internal: perl IRC connection object does not exist. |
| 18:52.52 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: now try "touch /etc/testing" to see if it worked |
| 18:53.06 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: after reboot, i can copy all them , safelly, is that? |
| 18:53.41 | jim | sure, but why? do you only have modem? or what is the problem? |
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| 18:54.00 | jim | inc|freaky: so it seems to work better? |
| 18:54.39 | jim | different/further that is |
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| 18:54.53 | dabreegster | This isn't directly related to debian, but anyway... There are some old DOS games I'd like to try out (Arena, Daggerfall, etc). dosbox is too slow here (500Mhz AMD K6) even after all the speed tricks, so I'm going to try native DOS. I don't think I've left any room outside of partitions to install to HD, so a boot floppy might be my only hope. Does anybody know of a way to get DOS running from a floppy to read from an ext3 fs? |
| 18:55.04 | inc|freaky | jim: nothing works :( |
| 18:55.11 | inc|freaky | i think ill just give up |
| 18:55.15 | inc|freaky | i wont get this in ages |
| 18:55.23 | jim | inc|freaky: that's not a whole lot of information :P |
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| 18:55.35 | inc|freaky | jim: it says the error i said above |
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| 18:56.00 | new2linux | pumpkin0: cool , cool that worked with fstab. so now I changed msdos to vfat.. umounted, than mounted the partition again and still can not write to it as a normal user!!......no output when "touch /etc/testing" !! |
| 18:56.08 | jim | so if you're going to give up (or, at least put it on hold for now), why not try learning perl |
| 18:56.17 | Gilrandir | well... anyone here t help a linux-newbie installing Debian Sarge (3.1 r0a) w/o a broadband connection? i've found no way to completely disable the security updates on first run and i really can't afford downloading ~600M (and w/o any possibility to limit the traffic) |
| 18:56.21 | jim | who knows |
| 18:56.26 | jim | maybe you'll have fun |
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| 18:56.58 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: try "umount /fat32" then "mount -a" |
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| 18:57.03 | thingfish | Gilrandir: unplug your network cable after it obtains a dhcp lease. |
| 18:57.12 | ogzy | i have a problem with the Anjuta, in my Debian system, debugger doesnt work properly, anyone knows the reason? |
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| 18:57.23 | r3tex | Gilrandir: what security updates? there are only like 3 and a few megs |
| 18:57.26 | Gilrandir | a have no-dhcp network |
| 18:57.36 | BooZee | how can I change from one language to another on ubuntu? (alt+shift in windows) |
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| 18:57.46 | thingfish | Gilrandir: which of course would only work if you're installing from CDs or DVD. |
| 18:57.51 | samuel | Gilrandir, did you get the netinstall or the standard install? |
| 18:58.00 | r3tex | BooZee: setxkbmap dvorak |
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| 18:58.01 | jim | but if you're going to keep going, no problem either... we need more info from you tho |
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| 18:58.15 | Gilrandir | ind when i unplug the cable, the system doesnt even start (if the comp. locks for more than 1 minute, i consider it frozen...) |
| 18:58.15 | r3tex | BooZee: in kde or gnome there are fast buttons i think |
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| 18:58.21 | thingfish | and there aren't 600 MB of updates, I don't think. |
| 18:58.27 | BooZee | r3tex: gnome. |
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| 18:58.39 | new2linux | pumpkin0: the partition is mounted fine....permition denied when I write to it as a normal user |
| 18:58.40 | r3tex | BooZee: setxkbmap dvorak |
| 18:58.41 | samuel | thingfish, i hadnt thought of that :) lol |
| 18:58.48 | r3tex | BooZee: setxkbmap sv |
| 18:58.50 | r3tex | whatever |
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| 18:59.13 | Gilrandir | i have the 2DVD version, but it still wants to download *alot* of data... (configured the 'apt' for 'desktop'installation) |
| 18:59.20 | BooZee | r3tex: what does this do? open a config screen for the shortcut? |
| 18:59.34 | r3tex | Gilrandir: you have to tell it to use the DVDs as a source |
| 18:59.34 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: wait a sec, i have to test something |
| 18:59.51 | r3tex | BooZee: no it changes the keyboard layout to dvorak, swedish or whatever |
| 19:00.06 | r3tex | BooZee: otherwise there's a menu for it under options you'll find it |
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| 19:00.26 | Gilrandir | have done... manually, but it still automatically adds the security.debian.org/... as source... |
| 19:00.35 | BooZee | I want to use shortcut for it |
| 19:00.59 | Gilrandir | (and if i unplug the cable, it simply freezes and waits to the connetcion to be restored) |
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| 19:03.29 | BooZee | r3tex: how can I use shortcuts for it? |
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| 19:03.57 | dabreegster | Is there any way to resize partitions without destroying information? |
| 19:04.03 | zinx | dabreegster: Yes. |
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| 19:04.29 | dabreegster | zinx: Safely? To return extra unused space to a spot outside of partitions so that I may place DOS there? |
| 19:04.43 | Gilrandir | welll. is there a way to tell the 'apt' to *realy not* install *any* updates, no matter how critical they may be...? |
| 19:04.49 | zinx | dabreegster: safe is a relative term |
| 19:04.52 | jim | dabreegster: back up entire drive first. |
| 19:05.08 | jim | including partition table |
| 19:05.15 | pumpkin0 | new2linux: try this: http://www.userlocal.com/tips/fatmounting.php |
| 19:05.17 | dabreegster | jim: That's near impossible. |
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| 19:05.22 | jim | no it's not |
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| 19:05.37 | dabreegster | Is there a way not involving backing up and restoring information afterwards? |
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| 19:05.39 | jim | maybe it's impossible for you... |
| 19:05.56 | jim | dabreegster: sure. but it's riskyer |
| 19:05.58 | dabreegster | Yeah, for me. |
| 19:06.15 | dabreegster | jim: How? And how risky? |
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| 19:07.10 | jim | for example, anything that alters the partition table carries the risk of you losing the partition table and therefore all the partition locations, making it kinda hard to locate your data :) |
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| 19:07.26 | dabreegster | I understand. |
| 19:07.29 | jim | having said all that, |
| 19:07.37 | jim | you could try, and it might work. |
| 19:07.42 | dabreegster | All this just to play old DOS games. |
| 19:07.56 | dabreegster | I won't risk it. |
| 19:08.19 | new2linux | pumpking: I am not able to browse at the oment ...I am at a train station using there local wireless limited internet for unsubsribe users...I can only post it to you after 5hrs....sorry, you are to help but I am doing much to help myself |
| 19:08.30 | dabreegster | I would just get a DOS boot disk and try to play from there, but the game is too big to be stored on a floppy and it's on an ext3fs. |
| 19:08.30 | jim | well, you might invest in necessary eqpt for backing up your drives |
| 19:08.56 | dabreegster | No can do. |
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| 19:09.18 | dabreegster | Wait, I might have an old spare drive. Never mind, and thanks anyway. |
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| 19:09.43 | jim | there ya go, I was just gonna suggest that :) |
| 19:10.07 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: downloading all the packages in each instalation takes too much time... |
| 19:10.17 | dabreegster | Now for the fun bit of trying to get it in! |
| 19:10.24 | Aragorn_Guardian | i downloaded 2 of the debian cds... |
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| 19:10.48 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: i must get packages from the cds in the debinst, right? |
| 19:11.01 | jim | dabreegster: if you don't make that investment, it's going to be hard every time you try something like this... you don't have even a cd burner/ |
| 19:11.03 | jim | ? |
| 19:11.03 | Aragorn_Guardian | jim: wanna say, netinst |
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| 19:11.57 | dabreegster | jim: I do, but not too many CDs left. I know, minor problem. |
| 19:12.09 | dabreegster | I'll just try to put in this other drive. |
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| 19:12.37 | jim | that should work... you could just install dos there and do things as directly as possible |
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| 19:13.00 | dabreegster | Right. Pity DOS emulation is so expensive. |
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| 19:13.27 | AMDfanboy | is there a recommended way to install the official nvidia driver? just follow their instructions? ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt |
| 19:13.28 | jim | but KNOW that you should get something to use for backup and make a backup -plan- |
| 19:13.55 | zinx | AMDfanboy: it's preferable to use the debian packages |
| 19:14.07 | dabreegster | jim: I have a burner and some CDs and I do make backups every now and then, just not of everything. |
| 19:14.16 | AMDfanboy | zinx: are they the official nvidia drivers though? |
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| 19:14.48 | zinx | AMDfanboy: yes |
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| 19:15.20 | AMDfanboy | zinx: do you know where they are? search snaptic for nvidia? |
| 19:15.36 | cDc|godlie | hi got troubles with my sound card its an ac97 onboard '( Intel 82801EB/ER ) |
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| 19:15.42 | zinx | AMDfanboy: nvidia-glx is the GL portion, i'm not sure what the kernel source portion is |
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| 19:15.49 | jim | dabreegster: well that's much better than you originally implied :) |
| 19:15.53 | fir3st0rm | hi |
| 19:15.56 | cDc|godlie | if i try to play a sound i get the message: no sound device found |
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| 19:16.09 | jim | but still, the spare drive is a very good idea |
| 19:16.15 | awdt123 | hey i'm trying to install debian on my laptop, and i get this on bootup, then freezes: "PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 01:03.1. Please try using pci=biosirq" When I specify pci=biosirq, no effect. other than it no longer tells me to try that :) Any advice? |
| 19:16.23 | fir3st0rm | i would like to get rights to write to my usb hd |
| 19:16.33 | fir3st0rm | fstab line looks like that: /dev/sda5 /media/usbdisk vfat pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 |
| 19:16.34 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Are you trying to use OSS or alsa? See if /dev/dsp exists; probably not. |
| 19:16.43 | fir3st0rm | what do i have to change? |
| 19:16.43 | mwilson | fir3st0rm: Then mount it that way. |
| 19:16.49 | jim | what's managed |
| 19:16.58 | fir3st0rm | mwilson: err? |
| 19:17.00 | mwilson | What's 'pamconsole'? |
| 19:17.04 | AMDfanboy | zinx: thanks a lot. one more little thing, i'm setting up thunderbird and it asks me how i want to set up my browser integration, debian or gnome, which is recommended? |
| 19:17.11 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster yes this is existing how do i find out what is running? alsa or oss? |
| 19:17.15 | jim | yeah, that too |
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| 19:17.21 | fir3st0rm | i have no idea it was like that after booting |
| 19:17.24 | mwilson | fir3st0rm: <shrug> You don't mount it that way, why do you expect to be able to write to it? |
| 19:17.40 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Probably oss if you're not sure. Try dmesg | grep sound or something. |
| 19:17.46 | fir3st0rm | how do i get write rights? |
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| 19:18.04 | zinx | AMDfanboy: *shrug*, i don't use thunderbird |
| 19:18.10 | mwilson | fir3st0rm: man mount |
| 19:18.12 | jim | fir3st0rm: you'll have to learn about the different mount options and add the right one |
| 19:18.15 | fir3st0rm | i have no experience with linux :/ |
| 19:18.19 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster nothing is the output |
| 19:18.31 | mwilson | fir3st0rm: Well now here's your chance to get some, huh? |
| 19:18.34 | jim | fir3st0rm: so you're getting some -right-now- :) |
| 19:18.38 | thingfish | odd, suddenly if I go to Places>Network Servers, I get prompted for authentication. |
| 19:18.40 | fir3st0rm | isn't there somoeone who knows what i have to do? |
| 19:18.49 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: dmesg|grep ac97 |
| 19:18.55 | fir3st0rm | that readme is way too long Oo |
| 19:19.02 | mwilson | fir3st0rm: Sure. You have to read the man page, and learn something about what you're doing. |
| 19:19.02 | jim | fir3st0rm: soon, that will be you |
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| 19:19.14 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: I've got the AC97 Audio codec too. Happen to be using an ESS Allegro card? |
| 19:19.23 | fir3st0rm | :( |
| 19:19.27 | AMDfanboy | i'm setting up thuderbird and it asks me for my preferred method of browser integration, debian or gnome or niehter? |
| 19:19.28 | mwilson | fir3st0rm: Or are you going to go on whining about having no experience for the next few years? |
| 19:19.36 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: ALG32 (ALC650) <-- this is the output |
| 19:19.40 | mwilson | AMDfanboy: And? |
| 19:19.45 | AMDfanboy | which one? |
| 19:19.47 | jim | fir3st0rm: please don't do that :P start working NOW |
| 19:19.53 | fir3st0rm | it's a single setting or so |
| 19:19.53 | mwilson | AMDfanboy: Which one what? |
| 19:19.59 | AMDfanboy | i run debian and gnome |
| 19:20.10 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Do the same command, but add the -B 3 -A 3 arguments to grep to see the messages before and after |
| 19:20.17 | fir3st0rm | but i don't have to know the whole readme ^^ |
| 19:20.48 | AMDfanboy | mwilson: do you understand my question? |
| 19:21.00 | mwilson | fir3st0rm: No one told you that you had to. |
| 19:21.08 | mwilson | AMDfanboy: Certainly. |
| 19:21.22 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster here is the output: http://nopaste.php-q.net/163012 |
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| 19:21.51 | AMDfanboy | mwilson: well, which do you think is better? |
| 19:22.10 | mwilson | AMDfanboy: Neither. Thunderbird is crap and I would never use it. Remember, you asked. |
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| 19:22.41 | AMDfanboy | mwilson: what do you use, pine ;-) |
| 19:23.29 | jochensp | Hi, I've a problem with hardlinks, they become two files after a while, what I don't whant, I'm using LVM on Raid1 |
| 19:23.31 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: It looks like it was loaded properly. Grab aumix and try running it. |
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| 19:23.35 | mwilson | AMDfanboy: Mutt, usually... pine on occasion if that's all that's available. |
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| 19:24.37 | billsow | Q: Is there a way to directly upgrade Debian 3.0 to Ubuntu? With Apt-get? |
| 19:24.46 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster its running |
| 19:24.51 | mwilson | billsow: No. |
| 19:24.52 | AMDfanboy | mwilson: here's another one. i know there are different levels of reopsitories, like stable unstable testing, etc |
| 19:24.52 | asg | billsow: ask #ubuntu |
| 19:25.10 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Try adjusting the volume. Which program was trying to play sound? |
| 19:25.22 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster i will turn on xmms |
| 19:25.33 | cDc|godlie | or should i try it mit mpg123 |
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| 19:25.43 | AMDfanboy | mwilson: so whats a good place to draw the line as far as pretty new packages that aren't seriously buggy |
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| 19:25.48 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Alright. Are you running any other program that's using sound? |
| 19:25.56 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Try mpg321. |
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| 19:26.15 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Has any sound worked at all? Because two programs can't access the sound device at the same time normally. |
| 19:26.15 | AMDfanboy | mwilson: i mean stable is still at firefox 1.0.4 |
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| 19:26.41 | billsow | asg: ok I was trying to follow a old howto guide for converting but it didn't have the newest version of ubuntu at the time they said it was easy to upgrade to ubuntu. |
| 19:26.43 | mwilson | AMDfanboy: If you need to ask that question, you have no business using anything other than the stable distribution. |
| 19:27.01 | mwilson | I fail to see how Ubuntu would be an "upgrade". |
| 19:27.04 | billsow | I wish that upgrading to ubuntu was easier. |
| 19:27.10 | asg | billsow: I wouldn't know, I've never used ubuntu but if there is a way, they would know. We don't recommend it. |
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| 19:27.18 | billsow | ok thank you |
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| 19:27.28 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster ica-i-disappear.mp3: No such device |
| 19:27.57 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Hmm. OH, I know! As root, do adduser foo sound |
| 19:28.04 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: or try as root. Check the permissions on /dev/dsp |
| 19:28.06 | asg | AMDfanboy: it's acutally 1.0.6 or maybe even 1.0.7 now, they usually backport security fixes but this is impossible with firefox so they still call it 1.0.4 but it isn't. |
| 19:28.17 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: not sound, audio |
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| 19:28.25 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: adduser foo audio |
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| 19:29.05 | mwilson | AMDfanboy: What you mean, or don't mean, is irrelevant. You asked me, I answered you. Specifiv versions of specific packages are irrelevant. |
| 19:29.17 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster dsp is owned by root:root and has chmod 777 |
| 19:29.42 | mwilson | cDc|godlie: Why'd you break the permissions? |
| 19:29.42 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: dsp's group should be audio |
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| 19:29.50 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: and your user should be in the audio group. |
| 19:30.02 | cDc|godlie | im currently as root at the shell |
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| 19:30.07 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Or just try mpg321 as root to see if that's the problem, which it probably is. |
| 19:30.08 | sandman | Winamp has "Internet Radio", and I can get the same effect using xmms + shoutcast.com. What site hosts Winamp's internet tv? |
| 19:30.19 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: chgrp audio /dev/dsp |
| 19:30.30 | funkyHat | i've got a debian box that i'm running some X clients on... and it doesn't have a window manager or any desktop installed. |
| 19:30.35 | funkyHat | how would i go about changing the gtk theme for those apps? |
| 19:31.04 | mwilson | funkyHat: Edit ~/.gtkrc or ~/.gtkrc-2.0, same as always. |
| 19:31.16 | AMDfanboy | zinx: what repository is that nvidia driver in? |
| 19:31.22 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster i tried mpg123 as root and there i got the problems |
| 19:31.42 | fbi | why are you playing mp3s as root to begin with |
| 19:31.45 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Same problems? Hmm. |
| 19:31.59 | funkyHat | thanks mwilson :). (that's not same as always ;), always is 'use the theme selector') |
| 19:32.00 | cDc|godlie | yes |
| 19:32.00 | zinx | AMDfanboy: non-free, one would assume |
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| 19:32.28 | dabreegster | cDc|godlie: Change permissions on the device anyway, but beyond that, I dunno. Try googling for your card or try alsa. |
| 19:32.34 | mwilson | funkyHat: What "theme selector"? GTK doesn't have a "theme selector". |
| 19:32.34 | AMDfanboy | zinx: is there a list of repositories somewhere? i just set this up so i only haev the defaults |
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| 19:32.56 | zinx | AMDfanboy: main contrib non-free. easy enough? |
| 19:32.59 | jim | you can try backports.org |
| 19:33.15 | AMDfanboy | jim: thats for me, right? |
| 19:33.20 | funkyHat | mwilson, i don't use debian on the desktop |
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| 19:33.42 | mwilson | funkyHat: Then why are you making statements about how it works? |
| 19:33.46 | jim | you can also put main contrib non-free on separate deb lines, and supposedly that will get you concurrent downloads |
| 19:33.46 | funkyHat | it's a gnome app from *other distro* |
| 19:34.12 | funkyHat | i was just saying that i don't always do that, i usually use a gui app to do it :) |
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| 19:34.43 | cDc|godlie | dabreegster hm how can i activate alsa |
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| 19:34.59 | Gijs` | Is there any way to get debian to show Gnome menu's like 'Applications Places System |
| 19:35.03 | Gijs` | ' ? |
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| 19:35.39 | [Cadet] | Gijs`: Of course, just run gnome |
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| 19:36.00 | Gijs` | [Cadet]: It only shows Applications Actions now ... |
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| 19:36.17 | [Cadet] | Gijs`: The you are on an older version |
| 19:36.31 | Gijs` | [Cadet]: I'm on testing ... |
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| 19:37.04 | Gijs` | Wait ... |
| 19:37.05 | Gijs` | :P |
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| 19:38.04 | funkyHat | hmm.... .gtkrc (or anything similar) isn't there |
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| 19:42.45 | Gijs` | Is there a tool to check which refresh rates my monitor supports ? |
| 19:43.08 | Gijs` | So I can fill in VertRefresh and HorizSync. |
| 19:43.12 | cahoot | Gijs`: try hwinfo --monitor |
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| 19:43.32 | Gijs` | hmm |
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| 19:43.48 | theD3viL | Gijs`, which monitor do you have? |
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| 19:44.05 | Gijs` | theD3viL: A 15" Panasonic PanaSync 4. |
| 19:44.19 | Gijs` | But the refresh rate for 1024x768 is to low I guess. |
| 19:44.45 | sward | At a guess, it can do 1024x768 @ 60Hz |
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| 19:44.50 | theD3viL | first you try to set it @ 85hz.. then if dont works, 75, and so on |
| 19:45.01 | mwilson | Gijs`: And you wouldn't just look at the spec sheet for the monitor because...? |
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| 19:47.25 | sward | Gijs`: Google's helpful, a search for Panasonic PanaSync 4 gives a link to the monitor at monitorworld.com, with specs |
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| 19:47.48 | sward | The *first* result I got, no less |
| 19:47.54 | karrot-x | is woody still stable? |
| 19:48.01 | meff | i have a mouse with a bunch of buttons.. is there any way to disable all buttons over 5 in X? |
| 19:48.03 | sward | No, it's old stable |
| 19:48.03 | asg | karrot-x: for the time being |
| 19:48.04 | shai_ | Why do os coders do stuff like "typedef unsigned int u_int32_t;" ?? |
| 19:48.12 | asg | shai_: #c |
| 19:48.22 | Gijs` | sward: yeah, found it also. i only searched for panasonic panasync 4 +refresh rates |
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| 19:48.25 | Gijs` | :/ |
| 19:48.25 | jim | shai_: google for "abstraction" |
| 19:48.38 | karrot-x | asg: weird, i lent my friend a dvd cd with woody on it, and he said he couldn't complete dselect due to errors |
| 19:48.47 | karrot-x | so i suggested he just immediately upgrade to unstable |
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| 19:48.58 | Gijs` | But I was interested in a way of doing all this without google. |
| 19:49.03 | karrot-x | and everything was going smooth until he had libc errors when running 'apt-get dist-upgrade' |
| 19:49.14 | asg | karrot-x: 1) find out what the problem is. 2) woody -> unstable will probably not work at this point and is a bad suggestion irrespective. |
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| 19:49.36 | wornaki | i can reproduce two sound at the same time... sound modules are loaded and seem to be running. Sound is onboard. Chipset AC 97.. using alsa... kernel: 2.6.12 |
| 19:49.42 | wornaki | any suggestions? |
| 19:49.54 | jim | Gijs`: so learn how by reading the man pages and readmes... and don't use google (also, you want to try doing it without asking any questions here) |
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| 19:50.06 | karrot-x | asg: really? why's that? I've been using debian for a few years now and never had a problem going from woody to unstable |
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| 19:50.19 | bmonty | anyone have experience with building 6in4 tunnels? |
| 19:50.43 | asg | karrot-x: woody and unstable are now many years apart, there will come a time when a direct woody -> unstable just won't work. This may have already happened. |
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| 19:50.56 | asg | karrot-x: he would have been much better upgrading to sarge (the current stable) |
| 19:51.09 | karrot-x | asg: ah, so sarge is now stable? |
| 19:51.13 | karrot-x | i thought it was still testing |
| 19:51.17 | karrot-x | that's what i needed, thanks a lot |
| 19:51.19 | bmonty | I'm looking for some help with how to set up /etc/network/interfaces for a 6in4 tunnel to he.net |
| 19:51.20 | asg | karrot-x: yes |
| 19:51.27 | Gijs` | jim: Thanks for the support then. |
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| 19:51.52 | jim | karrot-x: yeap... you can see stuff like that if you go to debian.org... |
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| 19:52.12 | jim | Gijs`: yoo can doo eet! |
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| 19:53.58 | jim | Gijs`: seriously, that is the goal... to try to learn and do things by not involving other humans as much as possible |
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| 19:56.25 | mtnman | heynow |
| 19:56.45 | jim | hiya |
| 19:57.09 | mtnman | jim: when did you give up aolserver? |
| 19:57.20 | jim | I did? |
| 19:57.29 | jim | I'm running several now :) |
| 19:57.39 | mtnman | jim: i saw someone else is packaging it now |
| 19:57.50 | jim | oh, I never tried packaging it myself |
| 19:58.01 | jim | or did I... |
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| 19:58.07 | mtnman | jim: i was under the impression that you'd been the maintainer |
| 19:58.39 | jim | I was trying to get a guy in the openacs realm to become a dd and do it |
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| 19:58.56 | jim | he had a good packaging of aolserver and openacs iirc |
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| 20:00.05 | mtnman | so it is available only as source? |
| 20:00.18 | jim | not sure if -only- |
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| 20:00.36 | jim | but it definitely is available that way |
| 20:00.36 | gameman73 | im getting DMA timeout errors and lost intterupt errors on my HD. im running deban 3.1 (fully updated), and my IDE controller is a sis 5513 (built into my ECS K7s5a mobo) |
| 20:00.56 | hate29 | Can someone help me to get doublescreen?? |
| 20:00.59 | jim | sf.net/project/aolserver maybe? |
| 20:01.03 | asg | gameman73: verify that all cards and cables are connected correctly. Otherwise, your harddrive is about to die. |
| 20:01.04 | mtnman | jim: according to this you are not the maintainer: http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/aolserver.html |
| 20:01.21 | jim | yeah, I didn't think I was |
| 20:01.43 | mtnman | well, i was under the impression that you were... which is what i said above. |
| 20:01.54 | jim | ahh :) |
| 20:02.02 | gameman73 | asg: ive tried replacing the hard drive with a known good one and i still get errors, cables are inserted correctly (it worked fine until one day it decided to stop) |
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| 20:02.09 | gameman73 | asg: i even replaces the cables |
| 20:02.12 | Chance | hello |
| 20:02.21 | asg | gameman73: and the IDE controller or Motherboard? |
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| 20:02.23 | jim | the closest thing to a web thing I maintained was cgiwrap |
| 20:02.35 | mtnman | gameman73: did you *test* the new cables before installing them? |
| 20:02.37 | gameman73 | i havent done that yet, that was my next step |
| 20:02.44 | Chance | question i have downloaded the debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso but when i burn it on cd doesn't boot |
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| 20:02.54 | gameman73 | mtnman: the cables were fresh from the packaging |
| 20:02.54 | nimak | hello |
| 20:03.05 | streuner | Chance: what CPU do you have? |
| 20:03.08 | nimak | whats the command for reconfiguring the base system? |
| 20:03.09 | [Cadet] | Chance: Sounds more like a statement than a question |
| 20:03.12 | mtnman | gameman73: you didn't answer my question |
| 20:03.16 | asg | gameman73: good idea, those errors are definitely a bad sign. You're not running some odd experimental kernel or odd patches are you? |
| 20:03.20 | jim | Chance: how are you burning it |
| 20:03.22 | gameman73 | mtnman: but no not really |
| 20:03.28 | gameman73 | asg: nope, stock 2.4 kernel |
| 20:03.33 | nimak | something like base-config? |
| 20:03.36 | sandman | If autolog is set to on in irssi, will it just log indefinately? |
| 20:03.36 | asg | gameman73: ah, okay |
| 20:03.38 | gameman73 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.43 | asg | nimak: base-config it is |
| 20:03.50 | mtnman | gameman73: i would want to test the new drive/cables in a know to work machine |
| 20:03.53 | nimak | thanks |
| 20:03.57 | mtnman | known* |
| 20:03.57 | Chance | unpaking the iso and add data to the cd with nero |
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| 20:04.21 | jim | Chance: no, what you want to do is burn the iso -directly- |
| 20:04.30 | jim | just write the iso to the cd |
| 20:04.42 | streuner | Chance: are you able to answer a simple question? |
| 20:04.53 | Chance | jim and it will boot ? |
| 20:04.53 | jim | or sing a simple song? |
| 20:05.05 | jim | Chance: should, yes |
| 20:05.24 | jim | but you have to write the iso -directly- to the cd |
| 20:05.40 | Chance | so i will have the iso file on the cd |
| 20:05.42 | gameman73 | ok, ill double check the cable, i have tried turning DMA off and thats when the irq errors pop up |
| 20:05.42 | jim | the iso -is- the filesystem :) |
| 20:05.47 | Chance | ok then let me try |
| 20:05.59 | jim | Chance: you want to burn it -raw- |
| 20:06.06 | [Cadet] | Chance: No, burn disc from image |
| 20:06.10 | mtnman | gameman73: it is always a good idea to rule out the simple things before exploring the complicated ones |
| 20:06.19 | Chance | huh !? |
| 20:06.24 | ingenvet | I just resized some partitions using the windows app partition magic. Unfortunatly it broke my grub installation. I've booted a live cd that has grub and have mounted my linux partition. Now, how would I go about installing grub again, hopefully using the same config? |
| 20:06.34 | Chance | now i am lost |
| 20:06.37 | [Cadet] | Chance: The cd will not contain an iso |
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| 20:06.43 | jim | [Cadet] probably knows the specific nero way |
| 20:06.59 | [Cadet] | Chance: There is an option to burn cd from image in the menus I believe |
| 20:07.04 | mtnman | ingenvet: i would suggest booting from a debian rescue disk |
| 20:07.07 | zinx | just don't try burning an iso directly with MacOS 9.x or below |
| 20:07.11 | zinx | requires a $100 program. |
| 20:07.19 | [Cadet] | zinx: No it doesn't |
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| 20:07.26 | zinx | [Cadet]: Yes it f'n does. |
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| 20:07.40 | jim | I'm saying you have to burn it -directly- to the disk; the iso is an image... he might know how you do that on nero; I don't |
| 20:07.46 | [Cadet] | Chance: you find the menu item? |
| 20:07.48 | zinx | [Cadet]: MacOS X has plenty of free programs to do it, however. |
| 20:07.50 | Chance | yes |
| 20:07.52 | Chance | found it |
| 20:07.54 | Chance | burn image to cd |
| 20:07.59 | ingenvet | mtnman, thing is, I dont have a spare cdr here now, just booted a live cd I had laying around.. |
| 20:08.08 | jim | there ya go :) (the iso is an -image-) |
| 20:08.16 | mtnman | ingenvet: you can do a rescue diskette too |
| 20:08.39 | Chance | ok burning now |
| 20:08.39 | [Cadet] | zinx: Sorry I missed the 9.x part |
| 20:08.39 | danieldg | ingenvet: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1 /dev/hda |
| 20:08.39 | asg | mtnman: the term 'diskette' is so dirty nowadays ;) |
| 20:08.41 | ingenvet | mtnman, hehe :) laptop without diskette station :( |
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| 20:08.47 | zinx | [Cadet]: figured |
| 20:09.04 | jim | Chance: all the boot stuff and everything is on the image, all set up and everything |
| 20:09.10 | mtnman | asg: dirty is as dirty does. he needs a solution to a dirty problem caused by software running under windoze. |
| 20:09.28 | ingenvet | danieldg: Where would that load the config from (like which OS's I've got installed and such) |
| 20:09.34 | mtnman | ingenvet: go spend $.10 and get a blank cdr |
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| 20:09.43 | asg | mtnman: I know |
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| 20:09.54 | doug | what's the best way to copy a Windows partition from one disk to another of a different size? (under linux, of course) |
| 20:09.55 | danieldg | ingenvet: it should set the config file to load from /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 20:10.02 | ingenvet | mtnman: Too late, its 11 pm here |
| 20:10.03 | [Cadet] | Speaking of burning stuff. Is dual layer just shit? I've had the drive for a while and just bought media on Thursday, 3 out of 3 failed, although one got to 93.1% |
| 20:10.05 | Chance | ok then |
| 20:10.12 | danieldg | ingenvet: grub loads the menu at boot, not at install |
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| 20:10.17 | jim | doug: you could try cp -a |
| 20:10.17 | ingenvet | danieldg: Ok, thanks. |
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| 20:10.25 | mtnman | asg: besides, every debian install i've done here was from diskettes that aol sent me |
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| 20:10.33 | asg | mtnman: haha |
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| 20:10.48 | jim | doug: but I'd experiment with a small collection of files and dirs first so you KNOW what you'd get when you do it for real |
| 20:10.51 | Om | How do I list the installed files of an installed package from the commandline? |
| 20:10.56 | doug | jim: yeah, i could try that... |
| 20:10.59 | asg | Om: dpkg -L <pkg> |
| 20:11.05 | xavier_ | hi everybody |
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| 20:11.18 | Om | Ah, thanks |
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| 20:11.34 | jim | and dpkg --help to see all the other stuff dpkg can do |
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| 20:11.44 | asg | mtnman: the only diskettes I own now are 5 1/4" install disks for OS/2 2.1 |
| 20:11.53 | jim | it's a big list... too big for a screenful |
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| 20:12.31 | jim | I bet those 5 1/4"s are still good too |
| 20:12.59 | asg | jim: probably but the last 5 1/4" drive I had died a long time ago. |
| 20:13.07 | chimp | hey, sup peeps? |
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| 20:13.20 | mtnman | asg: i have a few... if you ever need one:D |
| 20:13.25 | korl | hey, just installed debian sarge. can you please tell me which lines I need to add to /etc/apt/sources.list in order to install something with apt-get? thanks. |
| 20:13.52 | bbrazil | korl: apt-setup |
| 20:13.57 | Estes | Is there another word for synonym? |
| 20:13.58 | chimp | korl: depends what you want to install from |
| 20:14.01 | asg | jim: actually, I lied above, I have a copy of Wildcat 4.0 on floppies also. |
| 20:14.01 | bbrazil | it should already be done for you |
| 20:14.02 | asg | mtnman: :) |
| 20:14.04 | korl | bbrazil, thanks |
| 20:14.13 | korl | chimp: from the internet |
| 20:14.19 | crashbg | is there free open-source software for dhcp3-server administration via web interface? |
| 20:14.50 | asg | crashbg: webmin probably has one but we don't recommend it (/msg dpkg webmin) |
| 20:14.50 | asg | !tell chimp about peeps |
| 20:14.50 | streuner | crashbg: try apt-cache search |
| 20:14.51 | ingenvet | danieldg: Said it couldnt read stage1 properly.. the menu.lst looks fine though, everything seems setup correctly |
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| 20:14.58 | xavier_ | hi do you know where can I get the video cards(and its vendors) that are suported and autodetected by sarge? |
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| 20:15.06 | korl | btw, do you usually change sarge? I mean I remember the last time I installed debian it was called potato and you would usually upgrade to woody or sid in order to have access to the more updated packges? |
| 20:15.09 | chimp | you could use dselect, and add an apt source like: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/stable |
| 20:15.20 | chimp | or testing |
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| 20:15.40 | chimp | or, if your brave....dun dun duh....unstable |
| 20:15.42 | mtnman | xavier_: somewhere in the docs for discover, i'd imagine |
| 20:16.01 | jim | korl: got spare floppies? you could do the install starting with about 4 floppies and then the installer would pull most of itself in from the internet once you told it about your connection |
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| 20:16.36 | korl | jim: yeah, it's a really cool option |
| 20:16.41 | jim | korl: sarge doesn't change much; it's stable now |
| 20:17.00 | chimp | hey sarge...FREEZE! |
| 20:17.12 | jim | if you want updated packages one way is to find (unofficial) backports |
| 20:17.15 | korl | I'm amazed how linux and debian has improved since I installed debian the last time.... everything is automatic it's too easy |
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| 20:17.32 | jim | another way is to try building the packages on your sarge then installing them |
| 20:17.36 | xelam | korl: and they invented sliced bread :o |
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| 20:17.50 | mtnman | xavier_: still there? |
| 20:18.04 | korl | xelam, eheh :) |
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| 20:18.16 | mugur | any ideas why I'm getting "enkidu CRON[18256]: Critical error - immediate abort" |
| 20:18.18 | mugur | in cron? |
| 20:18.28 | mugur | I also get cron[18395]: Error: bad username; while reading /etc/crontab |
| 20:18.40 | jim | yeah, potato used the old ("boot-floppies") installer; sarge uses the new ("debian-installer") installer |
| 20:18.42 | mugur | and it's the default /etc/crontab |
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| 20:19.24 | mtnman | thank you joeyh et al for the new installer |
| 20:19.37 | mugur | i've googled around, but found nothing usefull |
| 20:19.49 | xavier_ | mtnman: I'm searching in the docs |
| 20:20.00 | jim | joeyh himself thanks all those too: it's much much easier to maintain |
| 20:20.12 | mtnman | xavier_: read /usr/share/doc/discover1-data/README it tells you where to look |
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| 20:20.26 | mtnman | but i think there is a typo in one filename |
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| 20:21.44 | Marcus_ | . |
| 20:21.54 | streuner | ,, |
| 20:21.55 | jim | , |
| 20:22.03 | asg | .: usage: . filename [arguments] |
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| 20:22.12 | Marcus_ | Does MSN 7.5 work under wine? |
| 20:22.30 | chimp | Marcus_: Why would you want it too? |
| 20:22.31 | streuner | Marcus_: why do you think you need that crap? |
| 20:22.34 | asg | Marcus_: #winehq might know. Any reason you aren't using bitlbee or gaim or somesuch? |
| 20:22.38 | mtnman | jim: i have to say that joeyh is one of the most genuine human beings i've had the pleasure of meeting. |
| 20:22.50 | Marcus_ | i dont like gaim and dont like amsn |
| 20:22.51 | Marcus_ | lol |
| 20:22.53 | jim | yeah, he gave me my first debian cd |
| 20:22.58 | Marcus_ | thats why i want to use that crap |
| 20:23.03 | streuner | hm |
| 20:23.04 | mtnman | jim: heh |
| 20:23.11 | asg | mtnman: he once yelled at me for submitting a patch correcting spelling errors in a TODO file in on of his packages :) |
| 20:23.22 | chimp | Marcus_: Try /join # Microsloth |
| 20:23.25 | pem3v78 | booting, initrd mounted, devfs mounted, and "can't find root device at "rd/0" or block-device(0,0) ?? |
| 20:23.51 | streuner | Marcus_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php |
| 20:23.52 | pem3v78 | is it possible that /dev/rd/0 isnt created for some reason ? |
| 20:23.57 | mtnman | asg: yelled? doesn't sound like the guy i know, but i know that he doesn't consider himself to be a good speller, i think it is a sore point for him. |
| 20:24.03 | asg | mtnman: in a nice way :) |
| 20:24.07 | jim | sheesh :P all he had to do was fail to accept it |
| 20:24.16 | mtnman | asg: oh, that's different :) |
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| 20:24.18 | asg | mtnman: it was friendly |
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| 20:24.36 | sandman | My cpudyn is way too sensitive. When the system is idle, it'll switch from 200MHz to 1.6GHz and back again each second |
| 20:24.49 | sandman | Anyone know how to make it somewhat less sensitive |
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| 20:25.05 | mtnman | asg: considering how much he does for the project, i can see that he'd be annoyed by a bug report concerning a todo file. |
| 20:25.20 | pem3v78 | I changed ramdisk size to 20MB, and I got this error |
| 20:25.28 | asg | mtnman: agreed, I was very green at the time. He was gracious in his rebuke. |
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| 20:27.26 | jim | if only because todo files change alot :) |
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| 20:27.51 | mtnman | jim: even more than changelogs :D |
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| 20:29.27 | asg | jim, mtnman: that was a long time ago, I learned my lesson ;) |
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| 20:29.41 | mtnman | asg: which was? |
| 20:29.54 | asg | mtnman: concentrate on the important things, not the trivial. |
| 20:29.57 | jim | donut korekt speling eroors? |
| 20:30.15 | mtnman | asg: at my first job, someone told me "don't sweat the small stuff" |
| 20:30.16 | asg | jim: at least in TODO files. I did correct quite a few in the developer's reference |
| 20:30.25 | mtnman | asg: first job after college, that is |
| 20:30.32 | InitMass | how do i set which soundcard to use when totem is using totem-xine? |
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| 20:30.56 | asg | mtnman: of course. Sometime the small stuff can bite you but not as often. |
| 20:31.09 | mtnman | asg: and usually not as hard |
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| 20:31.21 | asg | mtnman: usually |
| 20:31.34 | mtnman | if it does bite you, it is probably not as small as you thought! |
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| 20:31.54 | asg | mtnman: indeed |
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| 20:32.39 | korl | what package do I need to install in order to have 'startx'? |
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| 20:32.48 | asg | korl: xbase-clients |
| 20:32.54 | jim | xserver-common? |
| 20:32.56 | jim | oh |
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| 20:33.02 | korl | ask, thanks |
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| 20:33.27 | Mr-R | i would say he needs xserver-xfree86... :) |
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| 20:34.14 | asg | Mr-R: it doesn't depend on xbase-clients though so he wouldn't get 'startx' |
| 20:34.40 | xai | anyone have an example of host "cryptsetup reload" works? its hung my server. documentation is light. |
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| 20:35.00 | markit | hi :) after an update of some .deb (who can tell which one?) dpkg has started to print messages in my language (italian) instead of english. I would like to revert back to the latter... how could I do? |
| 20:35.18 | asg | markit: /msg dpkg locales |
| 20:35.38 | markit | asg: thanks, I don't remeber having touched it |
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| 20:35.53 | mtnman | markit: what part of italy? |
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| 20:36.03 | asg | markit: it's something to look at at least. The BTS may also help if you can find out which package cause the change. |
| 20:36.04 | markit | northern-east |
| 20:36.15 | markit | BTS? |
| 20:36.18 | mtnman | markit: i lived in val d'aosta for a while |
| 20:36.26 | asg | markit: /msg dpkg bts |
| 20:36.38 | markit | mtnman: the opposite side of Alpes ;) |
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| 20:36.43 | Mo3 | how do i take a screenshot of X? |
| 20:36.48 | asg | !screenshot |
| 20:36.48 | dpkg | methinks screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 20:36.49 | mtnman | yes, western side |
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| 20:37.45 | mtnman | markit: do you live in the mountains? |
| 20:38.27 | markit | mtnman: yes, I do, I'm in Cortina d'Ampezzo, were winter Olimpic games of 1956 took place |
| 20:38.41 | mtnman | nice. do you work in the ski industry? |
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| 20:39.42 | Estes | When writing raw socket stuff, do linux (And i think it does but i didn't see it in headers) support IP_HDRINCL as socket option ? i want to write my own ip headers |
| 20:40.12 | asg | Estes: you could install manpages-dev and check the manpage |
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| 20:40.34 | Estes | asg, had a look at the manpage, they say to look in the header |
| 20:40.37 | Estes | ... |
| 20:40.45 | scarynetworkguy | mutt |
| 20:40.46 | asg | Estes: #c may know |
| 20:40.50 | markit | mtnman: no :) this is a tourism-economic-centric town |
| 20:40.54 | Estes | allright :) ty |
| 20:40.56 | asg | scarynetworkguy: mutt doesn't have bugs, mutt has fleas |
| 20:41.12 | asg | Estes: someone here may know if you want to lurk but #c is probably a better bet. |
| 20:41.14 | markit | mtnman: if with "ski industry" you mean "building ski" |
| 20:41.24 | Estes | asg, asking in #c |
| 20:41.29 | Estes | asg, thanks |
| 20:41.30 | kristiank | hello. On a sarge 3.1r0a, kernel 2.6, the installer do not put /dev/dsp in audio group. |
| 20:41.33 | mtnman | markit: no, ski tourism is part of the industry... |
| 20:41.37 | asg | Estes: you're welcome |
| 20:41.38 | kristiank | Is it normal ? |
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| 20:41.54 | hfly | how do I read the list of available packages ? |
| 20:42.03 | asg | hfly: apt-cache search <keywords> |
| 20:42.03 | markit | mtnman: ok, but this is a wonderful place even in summer, so our "industry" is summer-winter |
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| 20:42.15 | hfly | asg: thanks |
| 20:42.21 | mtnman | markit: well, that is true of almost any ski resort. |
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| 20:42.28 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Heh. You'll also be sad to hear that my "focus follows eyes" project is full of bugs. |
| 20:42.30 | asg | hfly: apt-cache search . (to see all packages fly by) |
| 20:42.39 | asg | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 20:42.45 | streuner | kristiank: /msg dpkg audio |
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| 20:43.20 | defox | i've got an older matrox g550 (no dualhead) and attempting to get the dri and mga_vid (for mplayer) working but am running into trouble |
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| 20:43.36 | mtnman | scarynetorkguy: "focus follows eyes" would be tough for a bug... compound eyes and all... |
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| 20:43.44 | asg | scarynetworkguy: I imagine that 'focus follows eyes' if not built with proper tolerances would have you typing crap all over the place. |
| 20:44.05 | markit | asg: I've 2pc with debian sid, with the same /etc/environment , but in one "nano" has english messages, in the other italian |
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| 20:44.13 | korl | damn, still can't startx.... I need to configure my card( ATI Radeon X600Pro) |
| 20:44.20 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Yes yes it could. As I just demonstrated. Let that be a lesson for you kids. |
| 20:44.22 | asg | markit: have both been upgrade lately? |
| 20:44.25 | mtnman | markit: did you dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
| 20:44.25 | NyteRukh | hhi |
| 20:44.30 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Been awhile how have you been? |
| 20:44.30 | kristiank | streuner: thnks, I read, but it talks about woody. I have a sarge 3.1 and a kernel 2.6 |
| 20:44.42 | asg | scarynetworkguy: good but busy. Yourself? |
| 20:44.46 | streuner | kristiank: its basically the same |
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| 20:45.01 | markit | mtnman: no, was trying to figure it out from the config files |
| 20:45.13 | streuner | kristiank: just add 'user' to the audio group and load the right module, done. |
| 20:45.18 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Pretty much the same here. |
| 20:45.19 | kristiank | I do not think. I am talking about udev problems... no udev on a woody afaik |
| 20:45.20 | mtnman | markit: dpkg-reconfigure locales should solve the problem |
| 20:45.30 | asg | scarynetworkguy: cool, good to see you back around. |
| 20:45.42 | markit | mtnman: I think that will make the english pc talk italian, not the opposite ;) |
| 20:45.51 | ingenvet | Is /dev/hda5 the same as (hd0,5) when setting up grub? |
| 20:45.58 | scarynetworkguy | asg: Cool man. It's good to be seen. |
| 20:45.58 | mtnman | markit: depends what language you choose. |
| 20:46.01 | asg | ingenvet: (hd0,4) is what you want |
| 20:46.03 | asg | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 20:46.25 | markit | mtnman: both have just one line : LANG=it_IT@euro |
| 20:46.28 | ingenvet | asg: thanks |
| 20:46.35 | NyteRukh | anyone good with x? |
| 20:46.50 | mtnman | nyterukh: ask a reasonable question |
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| 20:47.18 | streuner | NyteRukh: /msg dpkg ask |
| 20:47.21 | kristiank | streuner: can you help me with udev ? |
| 20:47.31 | mtnman | markit: i suggest you run dpkg-reconfigure locales, choose english and see if it fixes your problem. |
| 20:47.35 | NyteRukh | k trying to change the screen resolutioin,, but the only chipset driver that i can get to work is vesa..and that dont change the resolution |
| 20:47.36 | streuner | kristiank: sure, apt-get remove udev |
| 20:47.41 | markit | mtnman: do you live among mountains? maybe your nick is like "mountainman"? |
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| 20:47.49 | NyteRukh | !dpkg xserver |
| 20:47.53 | mtnman | markit: correct |
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| 20:48.39 | mtnman | markit: i see ski lifts from my front windows |
| 20:48.45 | kristiank | I am looking for technical help, not for trolls :-) |
| 20:48.59 | mtnman | kristaink: then ask a technical question |
| 20:49.36 | markit | mtnman: :) wondering who converting feets in meters with some kde tool... |
| 20:49.48 | streuner | kristiank: you asked a question and i give you my serious answer, why do you think i trolling? |
| 20:49.49 | mtnman | markit: i think google has a tool for that... |
| 20:50.13 | kristiank | OK : I installed a 3.1r0a sarge kernel 2.6, and got problems with sound. smbd said me "add /dev/desp in audio group. True ? |
| 20:50.21 | NyteRukh | heres lttlemore depth i put debian on an hp pavilion 6630 with onboard video...which driver should i choose when i dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:50.26 | streuner | kristiank: no |
| 20:50.29 | korl | what's a better way to configure graphics card other than 'xf86conifg'? |
| 20:50.34 | streuner | kristiank: read what i told you |
| 20:50.51 | streuner | korl: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:50.56 | mtnman | kristiank: add the user to the audio group |
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| 20:51.02 | korl | streuner, thanks |
| 20:51.11 | scarynetworkguy | streuner: He's using the "Person who gave an answer that is correct but I don't want to hear == troll def" of troll? |
| 20:51.15 | streuner | <streuner> kristiank: just add 'user' to the audio group and load the right module, done. |
| 20:51.23 | Borg^Queen | Hi people, quick question. How well support is the SIS 6326 video chip? |
| 20:51.26 | kristiank | Adding the users in audio group was not enough |
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| 20:51.55 | Borg^Queen | A friend's grandmother is moving to Linux and we want to get her rocking ASAP before she changes her mind |
| 20:52.10 | markit | mtnman: wow, so high! I'm 4,000 feets high |
| 20:52.12 | streuner | kristiank: scroll up and read the factoid |
| 20:52.14 | kristiank | sorry : do you mean I must put the word "user" in the audio group ? (not the names of the users ?) |
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| 20:52.28 | mtnman | markit: that is the base of our ski area |
| 20:52.29 | streuner | <streuner> kristiank: /msg dpkg audio |
| 20:52.44 | mtnman | kristiank: no, the users username |
| 20:52.47 | markit | mtnman: in fact, we have lifts that go at 9,600 starting from here, also :) |
| 20:53.15 | mtnman | markit: we have a new lift which goes to about 11,900 ft which is almost completed |
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| 20:53.30 | jhaig | I have built a new kernel (2.6.12.6) but I am having problems making the initrd file. mkinitrd Gives the error: "device /dev/mapper/Vol01-Vol is not a block device" (the main partition is a logical volume). Can anyone help? |
| 20:53.38 | mtnman | markit: that terrain was previously available only to hikers |
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| 20:54.13 | markit | mtnman: http://www.dolomiti.org/ita/cortina/skipass/viewpoint/cam/cam1.html ( http://www.dolomiti.org/dengl/cortina/skipass/ ) |
| 20:54.32 | markit | ehm... maybe we are a little OT here... |
| 20:54.39 | xavier_ | mtnman: in /usr/share/doc/discover1-data/README says that i have to search at hardware list for example the hardware lists are in pci-26.lst but where is pci-26.lst? |
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| 20:55.15 | mtnman | xavier_: do "find pci-26.lst" |
| 20:55.26 | mtnman | markit: no doubt! |
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| 20:57.10 | asg | penguin42: iirc, it's the number of processes in the run queue + the number of processes waiting for i/o over 1, 5, and 15 minute averages. |
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| 20:58.28 | penguin42 | asg: So that's what I thought - there is just one process running, 3 threads, load average of 10 |
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| 20:59.04 | penguin42 | hmm - 'b' seems to be at 10 in vmstat |
| 20:59.14 | asg | penguin42: the system may be counting threads as processes and therefore elevating the averages since they aren't as heavy. |
| 20:59.23 | Miesco | Whats a good GUI irc client? |
| 20:59.37 | jim | what's "good" mean |
| 20:59.37 | Gathond | Miesco: I would say xchat |
| 20:59.51 | penguin42 | asg: Thing is I have 3 threads - I can't see what the hell the other 6 or 7 are - perhaps just pdflush and its likes? (its battering disc heavy) |
| 21:00.26 | asg | penguin42: possibly. |
| 21:01.36 | tix64 | penguin42: well, i think there are other processes (daemons and such). some of them may even want to run sometimes. |
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| 21:01.41 | kristiank | my users were in the audio group. The only thing which fixed the problem was to add /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer to the audio group. Is there another way to fix ? |
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| 21:02.31 | mtnman | kristiank: you could change the owner/group of /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer |
| 21:02.40 | penguin42 | tix64: I guess so - the machine is running an internal irc server (that is currently entirely silent) a dhcp server and stuff but everything else is quiet except my backupscript from hell |
| 21:02.43 | streuner | kristiank: did you log out and back in? |
| 21:02.56 | mtnman | kristiank: should be root.audio |
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| 21:03.29 | kristiank | streuner: yes |
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| 21:03.48 | korl | damn, still no luck with 'startx'... |
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| 21:04.00 | mtnman | korl: did you install xbase-clients? |
| 21:04.10 | kristiank | mtnman: sorry I do not understand ; could you explain ? |
| 21:04.16 | korl | mtnman, yes |
| 21:04.35 | streuner | kristiank: /msg dpkg unix lessons |
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| 21:04.46 | mtnman | kristiank: do you know anything about unix file ownership? |
| 21:04.55 | streuner | kristiank: read #1 |
| 21:05.01 | mtnman | korl: so what is the problem? |
| 21:05.23 | streuner | kristiank: and #6 |
| 21:05.30 | tix64 | penguin42: especially some network services do periodical polling. you have the kernel processes, syslog, your shell, etc. |
| 21:05.41 | Tortel | sUp? |
| 21:05.50 | Punko | hi, i have a problem with libtcl |
| 21:05.58 | Punko | its installed |
| 21:06.04 | asg | penguin42: even on some of my heavily loaded servers, I've not seen sustainted 10s in the 'b' column of vmstat. |
| 21:06.11 | Punko | but my eggdrop says its not there |
| 21:06.16 | Punko | any ideas ? |
| 21:06.24 | Punko | sorry about the lame question :) |
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| 21:06.34 | korl | I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to configure the graphich card ( Radeon x600pro). when I write startx, it fails, saying "Fatal server error: no screens found" |
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| 21:06.53 | mtnman | korl: your config is not valid. |
| 21:07.01 | asg | Punko: did you install libtcl-dev (or whatever you installed + -dev) ? |
| 21:07.08 | mtnman | korl: did you guess on any of the configs? |
| 21:07.22 | Punko | asg yes ofcourse |
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| 21:07.25 | korl | mtnman: yes |
| 21:07.30 | mtnman | korl: don't guess! |
| 21:07.57 | mtnman | korl: try first with 600x800 resolution. |
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| 21:09.09 | EdgEy | 600x800 o.o portrait monitor |
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| 21:09.23 | korl | mtnman, I've tried 600x800 and it doesn't work |
| 21:09.24 | rares000 | is there any way to configure linux to only accept user logins on certain domains |
| 21:09.30 | markit | mtnman: dpkg-reconfigure locales did the trick (after logout/login). It asks, beside the language you choose, if you want linux command use it or english. Thanks a lot (wondering where this setup is saved) |
| 21:09.45 | rares000 | I have several virtual servers set up |
| 21:09.54 | rares000 | using virtualmin |
| 21:09.54 | mtnman | markit: read /usr/share/doc/locales/ |
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| 21:10.06 | kRAt | how to save in lynx |
| 21:10.12 | mtnman | markit: fa niente! |
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| 21:10.27 | mtnman | korl: try a lower color depth |
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| 21:10.37 | albacker | which is the latest release of debian sarge? |
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| 21:11.09 | Miesco | When I try to connect to QuakeNet it says im G-Lined and: Install and enable identd before you connect back from this host How do I enable identd? |
| 21:11.22 | kristiank | you mean "ls -l /dev/dsp" must answer "root audio" (without any point between) ? |
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| 21:11.46 | korl | mtnman, mtnman, I tried with the lowest depth. didn't work |
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| 21:12.03 | albacker | guys, which is the latest debian-sarge release ? |
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| 21:12.50 | kRAt | how to save in lynx? |
| 21:12.52 | tix64 | albacker: wrong question! try: which debian is the latest release sarge? |
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| 21:13.08 | asg | kRAt: save what? |
| 21:13.12 | mtnman | korl: for modes, make sure that 800x600 only is selected. |
| 21:13.15 | kRAt | a .txt |
| 21:13.24 | albacker | tix64: i have debian sarge 3.1 ... is it the latest. im sorry if i have askwd the question wrong ! |
| 21:13.26 | cheal | albacker: 3.1r0[a] |
| 21:13.31 | mtnman | korl: you can also try a lower frequency |
| 21:13.36 | cheal | albacker: yes |
| 21:13.43 | kRAt | or a .c |
| 21:13.47 | kRAt | asg? |
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| 21:13.57 | albacker | cheal: and does the 1st CD have X & gnome/kde ? |
| 21:14.02 | korl | mtnman, done. didn't work |
| 21:14.09 | albacker | cos i have only 1 cd of 14.. :S |
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| 21:14.21 | cheal | albacker: yes, maybe not the full KDE or gnome though |
| 21:14.25 | mtnman | korl: what mode are you using? |
| 21:15.04 | albacker | cheal thanks a lot |
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| 21:15.44 | korl | mtnman, 800x600 @ 60 Hz |
| 21:15.52 | kristiank | you are wrong thinking I changed the ownership *before* the problem: I changed to fix the problem. |
| 21:15.56 | albacker | cheal: i dont get one thing.. it has kernel 2.4.X |
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| 21:16.16 | albacker | why that : cheal ?? |
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| 21:16.41 | cheal | albacker: it has both. 2.4.27 by default. gnome is on CD1 |
| 21:16.45 | mtnman | korl: there are two important dialog screens in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 which affect your problem. |
| 21:17.09 | cheal | albacker: full KDE needs CD2 |
| 21:17.12 | mtnman | korl: one is where you select your monitors best video mode, and the other where you select the modes you would like the xserver to use... |
| 21:17.46 | Seb | anyone can recommend a webcam that works decently with recent 2.6 kernels, without the need for 3rd party/binary drivers ? |
| 21:17.51 | mtnman | korl: make sure the one you would like the xserver to use is less than or equal to the best mode your monitor can use. |
| 21:17.56 | AMDfanboy | i was updating pacakges with synaptic and it asked me a couple of really whacky questions so i hit escape a few times figuring it would skip them and ask me again. but now when i try to apply changes it says there are still changes to apply - which to me implies that these changes were not completed - and then says that it failed to apply them. can i fix this? |
| 21:18.00 | albacker | cheal, it has both ?? what does that mean ? it has 2.4.27 and 2.6.13 ?? |
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| 21:18.04 | Seb | yeah, this is sort of a survey, but hey, it's the week-end ;) |
| 21:18.30 | cheal | albacker: no, 2.6.8 |
| 21:18.36 | TwistedEmotions | Question guys... I got a bunch of directories that I need to view inside... is there any way to tag a directory so when I ls it shows up a different color or something to make it stand out without just renaming it? |
| 21:18.43 | TwistedEmotions | Or moving it.. |
| 21:18.56 | mtnman | korl: is that clear enough? i realize it is a bit confusing... |
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| 21:18.59 | TwistedEmotions | basically... can I change a directories color? |
| 21:19.14 | albacker | cheal ok thanks... |
| 21:19.16 | korl | mtnman, chose both to be at 800x600 ... really weird, it supposed to work, didn't it? |
| 21:19.31 | mtnman | korl: yes. |
| 21:19.39 | mtnman | korl: what depth? |
| 21:19.47 | TwistedEmotions | Basicall I want to be able to distinguish between the directories that I have worked with already and those that I havent... |
| 21:20.04 | Tortel | you can put icons on em |
| 21:20.05 | cheal | AMDfanboy: hum, which changes? |
| 21:20.06 | TwistedEmotions | Any ideas on the easiest way go to about that? |
| 21:20.06 | Tortel | in gnome |
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| 21:20.19 | TwistedEmotions | Tortel: Im in terminal.. |
| 21:20.21 | Tortel | called emblems |
| 21:20.24 | Tortel | :O |
| 21:20.28 | Tortel | terminal??!? |
| 21:20.29 | Daveman | :p |
| 21:20.31 | Tortel | no idea |
| 21:20.54 | korl | mtnman, 16 |
| 21:21.08 | mtnman | korl: try 8 and try to lower the freq |
| 21:21.10 | TwistedEmotions | I mean the prompt thing... terminal is the right term right? |
| 21:21.24 | Tortel | i think |
| 21:21.25 | Tortel | yea |
| 21:21.44 | Tortel | http://www.warpmod.com/dev/Tortel/bash.png |
| 21:21.49 | Tortel | my experences |
| 21:21.58 | albacker | cheal one other thing.. sarge == experimental ?? |
| 21:21.58 | AMDfanboy | cheal: i just installed a new sys, so i was updating a few hundred pacakges. now there are still about 20 to update but it gives me errors for them |
| 21:21.58 | TwistedEmotions | I guess I could rename them all with a . in front... |
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| 21:22.09 | mtnman | korl: are you using the med or advanced option to config? |
| 21:22.44 | korl | mtnman, no I'm not |
| 21:22.49 | cheal | albacker: they're as different as they can be |
| 21:22.56 | cheal | !tell albacker about releases |
| 21:23.02 | mtnman | korl: i think you need to choose one or the other... |
| 21:23.09 | Tortel | !tell me about life |
| 21:23.15 | mtnman | korl: yes you do. |
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| 21:23.20 | Tortel | :( |
| 21:23.25 | korl | mtnman, what do you mean? |
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| 21:23.45 | cheal | AMDfanboy: hum, no more precise errors |
| 21:23.47 | cheal | ? |
| 21:24.07 | mtnman | korl: there is a dialog screen asking "Please choose a method for selecting your monitor characteristics. |
| 21:24.10 | mtnman | " |
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| 21:24.21 | cheal | albacker: experimental is not even on that page because it's not a full release |
| 21:24.25 | AMDfanboy | cheal: i'll post them to a paste site in a few, thanks! |
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| 21:25.09 | albacker | cheal : if i use sarge might be that i have problems with packageS ? |
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| 21:25.18 | mtnman | korl: it presents two choices: medium and advanced |
| 21:25.56 | cheal | albacker: what do you mean? it's not impossible |
| 21:25.58 | korl | mtnman, I don't think I have such dialouge screen |
| 21:26.07 | cddesjar | sid pretty nice |
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| 21:26.22 | albacker | cheal, sorry i thought it was unstable ... :S sorry. |
| 21:26.25 | mtnman | korl: what is your debian version? |
| 21:26.30 | albacker | im going now, and thanks a lot : cheal !! |
| 21:26.42 | cheal | albacker: ah ok. cool |
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| 21:27.39 | korl | mtnman, Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 |
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| 21:27.54 | hfly | I'm having trouble linking make.profile to the latest downloaded portage profile. When I use emerge it says "!!! ARCH is not set ..." |
| 21:28.08 | Tortel | my suggestion: the Debain GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible |
| 21:28.11 | Tortel | (a book) |
| 21:28.21 | Tortel | (look for it) |
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| 21:28.25 | Tortel | ((quite nice)) |
| 21:28.31 | oldsparky | omg |
| 21:28.35 | Tortel | (((yea, what i have))) |
| 21:28.39 | mtnman | korl: okay, i do not normally like to do this, but let's walk through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. don't type anything until i tell you so, ok? |
| 21:28.53 | korl | mtnman, ok |
| 21:28.59 | Esp1 | is it possible to set a mac address in the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
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| 21:29.06 | ico2 | when you compile a debian package on an i686, for an i386, do you cross compile it in any way to make it work on i386, currently stuff i am compiling on i686 wont work on i586 |
| 21:29.09 | mtnman | korl: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:29.37 | mtnman | korl: btw, what type of monitor? crt or lcd? |
| 21:29.37 | valdyn | ico2: no, that is not cross compiling |
| 21:29.47 | valdyn | ico2: debian packages do work on both |
| 21:29.58 | korl | mtnman, crt |
| 21:30.02 | cheal | ico2: are you aware that sarge doesn't work on 386? |
| 21:30.03 | mtnman | ok |
| 21:30.19 | mmiikkee12 | anyone know how to get a debian installation on a m68k with jst a floppy drive? |
| 21:30.31 | mtnman | korl: did you start dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 21:30.51 | korl | mtnman, yes |
| 21:31.07 | mtnman | is the correct server for your card selected? |
| 21:31.20 | mtnman | btw, what video card do you have? |
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| 21:31.35 | korl | mtnman, btw, I installed debian with the option to install the 2.6 kernel |
| 21:31.52 | mtnman | korl: fine. answer my last question please. |
| 21:32.03 | korl | mtnman, ATI Radeon X600Pro |
| 21:32.03 | ico2 | i know it is not cross compiling exactly, but do you have to change any compiler flags for example to let it work on i586, 3/486 i am not bothered about much |
| 21:32.16 | korl | mtnman, 128MB |
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| 21:32.34 | mtnman | korl: are you still on the first page? |
| 21:32.43 | korl | mtnman, yes |
| 21:32.59 | mtnman | korl: asks you to select the desired xserver driver? |
| 21:33.21 | korl | mtnman, yes |
| 21:33.42 | mmiikkee12 | anyone know how to get a debian installation on a m68k with jst a floppy drive? |
| 21:33.48 | mtnman | korl: which driver did you choose? |
| 21:33.54 | korl | mtnman, ati |
| 21:34.18 | mtnman | korl: okay, hit ok |
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| 21:34.40 | mtnman | korl: what is the next screen asking? |
| 21:35.03 | korl | mtnman, Enter an identifier for your video card. |
| 21:35.37 | mtnman | korl: this is arbitrary. it probably is suggesting something. if so, just accept it and hit ok |
| 21:35.58 | mtnman | korl: what does the next screen ask you? |
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| 21:36.18 | mtnman | korl: bus id? |
| 21:36.41 | TwistedEmotions | How do I get sizes for directories? |
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| 21:36.54 | drac | TwistedEmotions: du -h |
| 21:37.06 | mtnman | twistedemotions: i like du -hc |
| 21:37.15 | mtnman | or ls -lh |
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| 21:37.35 | mtnman | korl?? |
| 21:37.39 | TwistedEmotions | mtnman: doesnt show directory sizes |
| 21:37.40 | korl | mtnman, this screen has only text I don't need to choose something. it starts with: Users of PowerPC machines, and users of any computer with multiple video devices... |
| 21:37.50 | mtnman | korl: hit ok |
| 21:38.27 | korl | mtnman, the next screen is: Please enter the video card's bus identifier. |
| 21:38.31 | TwistedEmotions | du -hc or du -h is scrolling like 1000 lines? |
| 21:38.46 | mtnman | korl: if you have only one card, then you can leave it blank and hit ok |
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| 21:39.28 | korl | mtnman, next: enter the amount of memory ( in KB ) to be used by your video card. |
| 21:40.06 | mtnman | korl: you can probably get away with leaving it blank |
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| 21:40.13 | mtnman | korl: so hit ok |
| 21:40.40 | korl | mtnman, left it blanked. next: use kernel framebuffers device interface? Yes/No? |
| 21:41.01 | TwistedEmotions | uhhh.. wtf.. I just want to be able to get sizes for directories... not ALL directories on my computer.. just the current directory that I am in? |
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| 21:41.04 | Thanatermesis | sudo: unable to lookup ..... via gethostbyname() |
| 21:41.14 | mtnman | korl: does it make a suggestion? |
| 21:41.31 | mtnman | korl: i don't get that here, probably because i have a different card. |
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| 21:42.44 | korl | mtnman, "in theory , either approach should work, but in practice sometimes one does and sometimes the other doesn't. Enabling this is the safe bet, although if it appears to cause problems turn it off" |
| 21:42.57 | mtnman | korl: so enable it. |
| 21:43.08 | mtnman | and go to the next page |
| 21:43.24 | mtnman | does it ask about your kboard? |
| 21:43.30 | korl | mtnman, next: please select the XKB rule set to use |
| 21:43.51 | mtnman | korl: the default is xfree86, correct? |
| 21:43.53 | mmiikkee12 | Thanatermesis: that means your computer isn't in /etc/hosts |
| 21:44.00 | korl | mtnman, correct |
| 21:44.03 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, localhost ? |
| 21:44.18 | korl | mtnman, that is "xfree86" |
| 21:44.32 | jethro | TwistedEmotions: man du /--sum |
| 21:44.35 | mmiikkee12 | should say localhost debian (replace debian with your hostname) (may not be accurate |
| 21:44.36 | mmiikkee12 | ) |
| 21:44.42 | mtnman | korl: choose the default and hit ok |
| 21:44.58 | Thanatermesis | mmiikkee12 strange... etherconf don't configure this ? |
| 21:45.12 | mmiikkee12 | i had that for a long time also and found the answer in the gentoo install guide of all places :) |
| 21:45.12 | korl | mtnman: next screen talks about the keyboard with nothing to choose from |
| 21:45.17 | TwistedEmotions | jethro: Cant man! :P This sucks my balls.... |
| 21:45.17 | TwistedEmotions | gzip: stdout: No space left on device |
| 21:45.20 | mtnman | korl: hit ok |
| 21:45.40 | mtnman | korl: what type of keyboard are you using? |
| 21:45.41 | mmiikkee12 | Thanatermesis: is there a man /etc/hosts? not on linux atm |
| 21:45.44 | korl | mtnman, next: please select your keyborad model |
| 21:45.54 | TwistedEmotions | Must be a HUGE log file or something.. no way I filled 150gigs... |
| 21:45.55 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: man hosts |
| 21:45.56 | korl | mtnman, standard, pc104 |
| 21:45.56 | jethro | TwistedEmotions: just use du -sh for now and make sure you read the manpage when you have enough space left |
| 21:46.02 | mmiikkee12 | close enough :) |
| 21:46.16 | mtnman | so type in pc104 |
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| 21:46.25 | Thanatermesis | mmiikkee12 yes.. but I need to understand what are the exact part of debian to make this automatically |
| 21:46.36 | korl | mtnman, next: please select your keyboard layout |
| 21:46.49 | mmiikkee12 | uh... |
| 21:46.52 | mtnman | korl: are you in the us? |
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| 21:46.54 | mmiikkee12 | nothing did it for me |
| 21:47.03 | TwistedEmotions | jethro: What does that give the size of? |
| 21:47.04 | mmiikkee12 | sudo nano /etc/hosts |
| 21:47.05 | korl | mtnman, no |
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| 21:47.14 | mmiikkee12 | nano -w /etc/hosts |
| 21:47.20 | mtnman | korl: what keyboard layout do you use? |
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| 21:47.39 | korl | mtnman, us,il |
| 21:47.46 | jethro | TwistedEmotions: 'du -sh' will give the total size of . |
| 21:47.54 | mtnman | korl: let's just use us for now, okay? |
| 21:47.56 | fuko | Hi. I just executed a command and I got Segment Fault. How can I fix this? The command was chroot. |
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| 21:47.59 | jethro | TwistedEmotions: including files, and subdirectories |
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| 21:48.04 | TwistedEmotions | jethro: thanks. |
| 21:48.06 | korl | mtnman, okay |
| 21:48.14 | mtnman | so type us and hit ok |
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| 21:48.24 | uince | hi |
| 21:48.25 | jethro | TwistedEmotions: and -s will make it *not* output 1k lines |
| 21:48.26 | Thanatermesis | mmiikkee12 yes, thanks for the information... but in this moments i need to understand the part of debian of manage this automatically, I need to repair this automatically, no manually (for another systems) |
| 21:48.30 | korl | mtnman, done. next: please select your keyboard variant |
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| 21:48.53 | uince | can you help me: my xfce is disapeared!!!! |
| 21:48.58 | mtnman | korl: leave it blank and hit ok |
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| 21:49.22 | nimak | how do i get ls to only display some files at a time, so i can read everything without the need to scroll back? |
| 21:49.30 | korl | mtnman, done: next another page about keyboard with nothing to select |
| 21:49.35 | mfrisch | nimak ls *.jpg |
| 21:49.51 | mtnman | nimak: ls *foo* or "ls|less" |
| 21:50.02 | mtnman | korl: hit ok |
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| 21:50.33 | korl | mtnman: Next: Please select your keyboard options |
| 21:50.33 | uince | exactly: the gdm appear, i do the login, the splash screen appear, load all the application, and then a gray screen with the mouse pointer and nothing else |
| 21:50.40 | mtnman | korl: leave blank and hit ok |
| 21:51.00 | mtnman | korl: what type of mouse do you use? |
| 21:51.05 | korl | mtnman, done. next: Please choose your mouse port |
| 21:51.22 | TwistedEmotions | du -h --max-depth=1 |
| 21:51.24 | TwistedEmotions | there we go |
| 21:51.29 | mtnman | korl: what type of mouse do you use? |
| 21:51.35 | TwistedEmotions | that works... ugly but works. |
| 21:51.40 | nimak | thanks, mtnman |
| 21:51.45 | mtnman | nimak: no problem |
| 21:51.57 | mtnman | i.e. you're welcome :) |
| 21:52.01 | korl | mtnman, standard |
| 21:52.08 | uince | any idea? |
| 21:52.08 | mtnman | korl: ps2? |
| 21:52.13 | korl | mtnman, yes |
| 21:52.16 | trowa | i have a mouse you is detected with ubuntu but not with my sarge |
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| 21:52.30 | mtnman | korl: what is it asking you now? |
| 21:52.31 | TwistedEmotions | thanks guys ;) |
| 21:52.34 | |sparr| | what's a good WM-neutral file manager for X? |
| 21:52.44 | trowa | it is the version of my version of kernel? |
| 21:52.46 | nimak | trowa: do you know where the mouse is located? |
| 21:52.52 | mtnman | |sparr|: mc |
| 21:53.02 | |sparr| | mtnman: something with a gui :) |
| 21:53.09 | korl | mtnman, to choose which port to use. the default is /dev/input/mice |
| 21:53.13 | mtnman | |sparr|: you can use a mouse with mc |
| 21:53.18 | trowa | i have look my X11/xorg.conf or X11/XF86Config-4 and it is the same |
| 21:53.24 | mtnman | choose /dev/psaux |
| 21:53.25 | trowa | the same port |
| 21:54.05 | trowa | my mouse is connected near the keyboard line |
| 21:54.32 | korl | mtnman, chose /dev/psaux. next: please choose the entry that best describe your mouse. Chose: PS/2 |
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| 21:55.11 | mtnman | korl: should be okay... you can also choose imps2 if it is a wheeliemouse |
| 21:55.20 | korl | mtnman, ok |
| 21:55.32 | korl | mtnman, next: emulate 3 buttons mouse? |
| 21:55.41 | trowa | in my xorg.conf og ubuntu i have /dev/input/mice and it is ok but if i write that in my conf of X11 debian they dont work |
| 21:55.42 | eXistenZ | Does anyone use skype on debian |
| 21:55.51 | mtnman | korl: do you have a 3 button mouse? |
| 21:56.01 | korl | mtnman, no, on |
| 21:56.08 | mtnman | wheelmouse? |
| 21:56.08 | korl | mtnman, no only 2 |
| 21:56.21 | korl | mtnman, yes wheelmouse |
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| 21:56.28 | war- | Anyone here using Etch? Did the print option in the gimp disappear for you too? |
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| 21:56.35 | mtnman | korl: that is a 3 button. pressing the wheel is button 2 |
| 21:56.39 | jmg | any united statesers, please try mirror.clarkson.edu? |
| 21:56.43 | eXistenZ | mtnman: I have a mouse that eats cheese here, with no buttons |
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| 21:56.55 | war- | ? |
| 21:57.03 | korl | mtnman, okay, so I chose No |
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| 21:57.13 | mtnman | korl: okay hit ok |
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| 21:57.21 | mtnman | imean no |
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| 21:57.37 | trowa | what is the difference about psaux and input/mice ? |
| 21:57.42 | korl | mtnman, next: Enable scroll events from mouse wheel? |
| 21:57.47 | simonrvn | ah-ha! figured the "bug" in /etc/environment not being read. see changelog.Debian for shadow package |
| 21:57.57 | mtnman | korl: choose yes, since you have a wheel mouse |
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| 21:58.20 | HelmutG | Hi. When analog is installed after apache2, dos it automatically install some cronjob or similar to parse logs? (No is a good answer too, if that represensts the truth). |
| 21:58.27 | simonrvn | some people came in earlier today (?) with their /etc/environment not getting read |
| 21:58.33 | korl | mtnman, done. Next: Enter an identifier for your monitor |
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| 21:58.46 | simonrvn | they had been trying to set their locale |
| 21:58.56 | mtnman | korl: this is arbitrary and does not matter. probably the default is Generic Monitor. |
| 21:59.02 | mtnman | korl: hit ok |
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| 21:59.31 | korl | mtnman, Next: Is your monintor Lcd? |
| 21:59.38 | korl | mtnman, Chose No |
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| 21:59.47 | mtnman | korl: i suppose you know the answer to that one! |
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| 21:59.58 | korl | mtnman, :) |
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| 22:00.21 | Chance | hi again |
| 22:00.32 | seb- | what package need to play dvds on debian? |
| 22:00.33 | simonrvn | no, just tired ;p |
| 22:00.34 | mtnman | korl: now we are getting to the meat of your problem |
| 22:00.35 | Chance | i am trying to share the internet connection thru a debian 3.1 box |
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| 22:00.41 | korl | mtnman, next: please choose a method for selecting your monitor characteristics Simple Medium Advanced |
| 22:00.41 | seb- | dvd? |
| 22:00.42 | Chance | using iptables |
| 22:00.58 | mtnman | korl: it should be asking if you want to use simple medium or advanced |
| 22:00.59 | korl | mtnman, this is what you meant earlier..... |
| 22:01.05 | mtnman | yes. |
| 22:01.10 | Chance | used to have redhat before and trying to run same rules as i had on redhat but the internet sharing not working |
| 22:01.11 | bbrazil | Chance: can I suggest shorewall? |
| 22:01.12 | korl | mtnman, yep. what to choose? |
| 22:01.13 | Daveman | heh |
| 22:01.14 | Chance | anyone has any ideea ? |
| 22:01.21 | mtnman | korl: medium |
| 22:01.37 | Zrin | Chance - did you enable routing? |
| 22:01.39 | korl | mtnman, Okay. |
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| 22:01.56 | Chance | Zrin not sure how ? i just installed the debian from the minimal cd |
| 22:02.04 | mtnman | korl: do you know the monitor's best mode? |
| 22:02.12 | simonrvn | Chance: did you also set ip_forward to 1 for net/ipv4/ip_forward (found in /proc/sys)? |
| 22:02.14 | mtnman | if not choose 800x600 |
| 22:02.17 | Chance | that i did |
| 22:02.19 | korl | mtnman, Next: not sure. |
| 22:02.26 | rosco | hi |
| 22:02.35 | korl | mtnman, which of the 800x600? |
| 22:02.35 | mfrisch | holls |
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| 22:02.40 | mfrisch | holla |
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| 22:02.46 | Daveman | ... |
| 22:02.52 | mtnman | korl: 60Hz |
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| 22:03.00 | Zrin | Chance - simonrvn told you |
| 22:03.08 | rosco | is there an option for apt that would uninstall a package and all it's dependancies if they aren't needed by another package ? |
| 22:03.15 | Chance | i did that |
| 22:03.21 | Chance | already |
| 22:03.22 | korl | mtnman, done. next: select the video modes you would like the X server to use |
| 22:03.25 | seb- | what package need to play dvds on debian? |
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| 22:03.31 | Chance | that's how i tryed of course |
| 22:03.31 | mtnman | korl: the nex part is the crucial part... |
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| 22:03.54 | bbrazil | rosco: debfoster, deboprhan, aptitude |
| 22:03.55 | Chance | i thaught there is something else like a tool for debian that has to be enabled |
| 22:03.59 | mtnman | korl: make sure only 800x600 is checked. scroll down to be sure. |
| 22:04.12 | Zrin | dir |
| 22:04.14 | korl | mtnman, okay, done. only 800x600. |
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| 22:04.24 | mtnman | korl: what was checked ? |
| 22:04.28 | fukosan | hello. Does someone know when working in Terminal mode how can I run two (or more apps) in one tty at once. Like use nano (in FG) and top (in bkgr). |
| 22:04.32 | Chance | # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward --> output: 1 |
| 22:04.33 | mtnman | korl: before you selected? |
| 22:04.37 | fukosan | ?<-- |
| 22:04.41 | Chance | Zrin any ideea ? |
| 22:04.46 | simonrvn | er, s/shadow/login/ |
| 22:04.50 | cheal | !tell seb- about dvd |
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| 22:04.51 | bbrazil | fukosan: screen |
| 22:04.52 | mtnman | fukosan: screen or splitvt |
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| 22:04.59 | Chance | or simonrvn ? |
| 22:05.02 | korl | korl, only 800x600. |
| 22:05.05 | Zrin | Chance - try some debugging |
| 22:05.08 | mtnman | korl: okay. hit ok |
| 22:05.10 | fukosan | a... |
| 22:05.27 | korl | korl, next: desired default color depth. |
| 22:05.28 | simonrvn | Chance: you also need to allow FORWARD packets. btw, this, has what you need |
| 22:05.32 | mtnman | choose 8 |
| 22:05.35 | Zrin | Chance - add rules to display packets |
| 22:05.36 | korl | mtnman, okay |
| 22:05.38 | uince | do you know the name of the script or the configuration file where i can find the list of the programs that gdm lunch? |
| 22:05.50 | fukosan | mtnman: I don't understand...(about 2 apps running) |
| 22:05.57 | Chance | simonrvn this what ? |
| 22:05.59 | Zrin | Chance - search inet for an example config |
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| 22:06.07 | mtnman | fukosan: your question is unclear. |
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| 22:06.11 | simonrvn | !iptables tutorial |
| 22:06.11 | dpkg | iptables tutorial is probably http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/ |
| 22:06.14 | simonrvn | ^^^ |
| 22:06.28 | Chance | how should i join there from console ? :) |
| 22:06.32 | Zrin | Chance - i have an woody as NAT/router, but that might not work for you |
| 22:06.35 | Chance | it's not a real nice display |
| 22:06.48 | korl | mtnman, next: another screen with nothing to choose. it starts with: "it is possible to customize (or completely omit) the list of modules that the X server loads by default. ...." |
| 22:06.50 | almsway | Can anyone shed some light on a modprobe issue I'm having? |
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| 22:07.03 | mtnman | korl: go to next page |
| 22:07.05 | Chance | i use same rules i used on a fedora box for net sharing but not working :) |
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| 22:07.24 | Chance | zrin can i private you ? |
| 22:07.25 | mtnman | almsway: not until you ask a reasonable question about it. |
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| 22:07.39 | fukosan | mtnman: aaa.. Uhm well When Running in command Line mode I would Like to un to programs at once. In one tty. how can I do this? Like I want to run nano and top at the same time. |
| 22:07.46 | almsway | I'm trying to get my nic card up on my latpop, and I guess I'm just too module-ignorant to know which modules to insert |
| 22:07.47 | Zrin | Chance - ok,but I'm not really an expert on iptables |
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| 22:08.08 | Chance | it's ok just want to see some diff |
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| 22:08.12 | mtnman | fukosan: read about a package called "screen" and another called "splitvt" |
| 22:08.17 | trowa | re |
| 22:08.22 | Tortel | !tell me about win32 codecs |
| 22:08.29 | Tortel | :( |
| 22:08.30 | mtnman | almsway: run modconf. it has menus. |
| 22:08.34 | fukosan | Okay then... |
| 22:08.35 | trowa | my sarge is re ok! :D |
| 22:08.36 | trowa | thank |
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| 22:08.51 | korl | mtnman:Next: I have list of modules: GLCore , bitmap , dbe, ddc, dri , extmod , freetype , glx, int10 ,record , speedo ,type1 , vbe, xtt |
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| 22:09.02 | mtnman | korl: okay, hit ok |
| 22:09.06 | korl | mtnman , nothing is checked though |
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| 22:09.18 | korl | mtnman , to check them? |
| 22:09.26 | trowa | i have use /input/mice and it is just psaux |
| 22:09.42 | almsway | mtnman: thnx |
| 22:09.45 | reliver | hello, i am trying to improve the networking setup for the debian/morphix based LiveCD Elive |
| 22:09.59 | mtnman | korl: oh, well i have all but xtt checked here. not sure about what you need, try to check all but xtt |
| 22:10.00 | trowa | but why my ubuntu xorg.conf is was writing and my mouse is ok? |
| 22:10.06 | mmiikkee12 | anyone know if i can write a m68k floppy image to a floppy from an i386? |
| 22:10.13 | korl | mtnman, done |
| 22:10.16 | mtnman | trowa: ask on a ubuntu channel. |
| 22:10.22 | reliver | dpkg-reconfigure etherconf produces a /etc/hosts that gives me errors in the console. |
| 22:10.24 | almsway | mntman: modconf? |
| 22:10.43 | mtnman | almsway: if you don't have it apt-get install modconf |
| 22:10.44 | korl | mtnman, next: Write default Files section to configuration file? Yes/No? |
| 22:10.50 | mtnman | yes |
| 22:10.56 | cheal | reliver: you should ask #elive |
| 22:10.58 | almsway | mntman: gotcha |
| 22:11.07 | mtnman | almsway and you are welcome |
| 22:11.17 | korl | mtnman, next: Write default DRI section to configuration file? Yes/No |
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| 22:11.19 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know why my .fluxbox/keys file doesnt work..? |
| 22:11.19 | mtnman | yes |
| 22:11.26 | reliver | i am conversing on #elive, the core developer is asking, cheal. |
| 22:11.31 | korl | mtnman, finished |
| 22:11.44 | TwistedEmotions | Was working before and now suddenly doesnt work anymore... ? Is there some place where I could look for errors? |
| 22:11.49 | korl | mtnman, startx'ing...... |
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| 22:11.50 | mtnman | korl: okay from a non-root shell (i.e. normal user) do startx |
| 22:12.12 | mmiikkee12 | anyone know if i can write a m68k floppy image to a floppy from an i386? |
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| 22:12.25 | mmiikkee12 | (and have it work) |
| 22:12.31 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: should be fine. |
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| 22:12.49 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: you can even do it from a windoze box with rawrite |
| 22:12.52 | korl | mtnman, done. startx is dead :( |
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| 22:13.08 | ameximes | Selamlar, Türkçe Debian yardım kanallarına nasıl ulaşabilirim? |
| 22:13.10 | Chance | zrin receving my messages ? |
| 22:13.16 | mtnman | korl: read your user's .xsession-errors file |
| 22:13.17 | mmiikkee12 | mtnman: that was my plan anyway :) |
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| 22:13.50 | korl | mtnman, no such file in my home directory of the user who startx'ed. |
| 22:13.51 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: i suggest rawrite2 over rawrite |
| 22:13.54 | Daveman | moo moo moo |
| 22:14.18 | mtnman | korl: well, you've got me stumped and my stomach is too empty to think about it anymore right now. |
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| 22:14.28 | mmiikkee12 | mtnman: whatever it's called :) |
| 22:14.33 | badcoder | how do i make an iso image from a cd? |
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| 22:14.45 | mmiikkee12 | badcoder: dd? |
| 22:14.55 | mmiikkee12 | (just an idea, might not work) |
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| 22:15.10 | almsway | exit |
| 22:15.16 | egon_spengler | dd if=/dev/hdc of=nameyouwant.iso |
| 22:15.16 | korl | mtnman, Okay. Thanks a lot for trying to help though!!! |
| 22:15.18 | almsway | ... er... wrong screen |
| 22:15.20 | badcoder | dd always works ? |
| 22:15.22 | mtnman | korl: does it give an error msg? |
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| 22:15.26 | mtnman | same as before? |
| 22:15.28 | korl | badcoder> dd always works ? |
| 22:15.31 | mfrisch | -+ |
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| 22:16.08 | EL1TE | question: what video driver should I use for X on Debian 3.1 with an Ati Radeon Mobility ? neither ati or vesa works really well |
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| 22:16.25 | korl | mtnman, it tries to enter x, but then fails saying at the before the end: no screens found |
| 22:16.33 | uince | how can i lunch a graphical application from a shell and make it appear in another display??? |
| 22:16.43 | crispynix | EL1TE: you could try the radeon driver, but afaik the ati driver loads that for Radeons anyways. |
| 22:16.51 | korl | mtnman, the log file is said to be /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 22:17.12 | EL1TE | ah ok |
| 22:17.15 | Blissex | EL1TE: thats a sad situation -- many Mobility chips, especially if recent, are not well supported. |
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| 22:17.28 | mtnman | korl do tail /var/log/xfree86.0.log and see what is there |
| 22:17.29 | korl | mtnman, hrmmm the log is quite interesting |
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| 22:17.45 | Blissex | EL1TE: in theory 'vesa' should always work. Note that 'ati' is the wrong driver, it is for pre-Radeon chips. |
| 22:17.55 | mtnman | korl: you can always paste a log entry into a google search |
| 22:18.00 | EL1TE | yeah, vesa works, but with 800x600 max :p |
| 22:18.11 | crispynix | EL1TE: you could try ATi's fglrx driver if it's an R200-based card. I'm guessing that it's not, though. |
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| 22:18.27 | Blissex | EL1TE: so as crispynix says, try the 'radeon' one. Also as he says the 'fglrx' one, but it is full of issues. |
| 22:18.38 | badcoder | cat /dev/sr0 > cd.iso wil work ? |
| 22:18.42 | mtnman | korl: you can try dpkg-reconfigure again and try vga instead of ati, as a test. |
| 22:18.51 | Blissex | EL1TE: as to 'vesa' and 800x600, you just need to find the right mode to put into 'vga=' |
| 22:18.56 | EL1TE | another question: is there any quick way to change the driver without having to reinstall ? :p |
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| 22:19.11 | mmiikkee12 | ok, i need to install debian m68k entirely from floppies. anyone know what i should download/write? |
| 22:19.18 | Blissex | EL1TE: you just change a line in '/etc/X11/XF86Config' or whatever, |
| 22:19.25 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: the debian install manual |
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| 22:19.38 | Blissex | EL1TE: or 'dpkg-reconfig xfree86-server' or whatever the name is. |
| 22:20.05 | mtnman | dpkg tell mmiikkee12 about install manual |
| 22:20.11 | korl | mtnman, tried vga. didn't work either |
| 22:20.14 | Blissex | EL1TE: another option is to use the 'vesafb' or 'radeonfb' kernel frame buffer drivers and the X driver 'fbdev' that uses them. |
| 22:20.37 | reliver | hello, there is a problem with the debian networking setup tool |
| 22:20.37 | reliver | dpkg-reconfigure etherconf |
| 22:20.38 | reliver | it produces a wrong entry in /etc/localhosts which causes the following error: |
| 22:20.38 | reliver | sudo: unable to lookup donkey.localhost via gethostbyname() |
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| 22:20.38 | korl | mtnman, maybe I'm missing other packages |
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| 22:21.08 | RedEyess | Hello. |
| 22:21.16 | mtnman | korl: do you have x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed? |
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| 22:21.42 | korl | mtnman, no and no. |
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| 22:21.56 | mtnman | korl: get x-window-system-core and try again. |
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| 22:22.27 | korl | mtnman, okay, that will take few minutes |
| 22:22.28 | mtnman | korl: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 22:22.38 | mtnman | korl: i am off to make a sandwich. |
| 22:22.52 | korl | mtnman, enjoy the sandwich. |
| 22:23.17 | mtnman | korl: thank you. |
| 22:23.48 | mmiikkee12 | mtnman: a 20 mb file doesn't fit on a floppy. |
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| 22:24.10 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: that is true. |
| 22:24.16 | fken | hello |
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| 22:24.44 | mmiikkee12 | i need the entire system, not just boot disks. the install guide doesn't say anything about that. |
| 22:24.47 | fken | does anyone know avimeca under windows ? i am looking for a similar program for linux debian |
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| 22:25.21 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: you just need a few installation diskettes or an installation cd. the rest will get pulled from the net. |
| 22:25.37 | mmiikkee12 | *with only floppies* |
| 22:25.38 | fken | its a program which allow user to point at place on a movie |
| 22:25.43 | fken | image per image |
| 22:25.48 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: read my last sentence. |
| 22:25.49 | mmiikkee12 | not net access |
| 22:26.08 | mmiikkee12 | *no net access |
| 22:26.23 | mmiikkee12 | it's a really old m68k with no modem |
| 22:26.26 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: you should either setup net access or a cdrom. |
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| 22:26.48 | mmiikkee12 | nor do i have a modem with a plug that fits on it. |
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| 22:27.48 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: you will need one or the other. on i386 it used to be possible to put the system onto a stack of floppied, that was before cd writers were common. don't know if that option is still supported, let alone in m68k |
| 22:27.53 | EdgEy | mmiikkee12, have fun with 300ish floppies |
| 22:27.54 | korl | that's really wierd... xf86cfg enters into something like startx |
| 22:27.54 | EdgEy | :D |
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| 22:28.03 | korl | mtnman, that's really weird..... |
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| 22:28.15 | mmiikkee12 | mtnman: how about woody? i once installed that with around 25 floppies |
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| 22:28.21 | Miesco | How do I setup identd? |
| 22:28.22 | TwistedEmotions | Is there some way of looking at like the top 10 largest files on my computer? or top whatever number of files on my computer? |
| 22:28.29 | mtnman | mmiikkee12: there is also the possiblity to install over paralell or serial networking |
| 22:28.41 | mmiikkee12 | uhm... |
| 22:28.43 | mmiikkee12 | ? |
| 22:28.48 | korl | mtnman, it's like im in fvwm |
| 22:28.56 | mmiikkee12 | it's got a scsi port... |
| 22:29.01 | Miesco | Or how do I check if oidentd is running? |
| 22:29.02 | mtnman | korl: so you got X up? |
| 22:29.20 | outlaw84 | I am trying to get hardware accerleration on with my Radeon card and Xorg... And I keep geting "(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled" in the Xorg log |
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| 22:29.50 | Gathond | outlaw84: if its a recent card you probably have to get the ATI binary driver |
| 22:30.06 | korl | mtnman, technically no and yes.... |
| 22:30.22 | mtnman | outlaw84: i suspect you need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enable dri |
| 22:30.24 | EL1TE | another question: my WLAN is protected by a WPA shared key, does debian 3.1 support this ? |
| 22:30.25 | outlaw84 | Gathond: but the documentation says its supported |
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| 22:30.41 | mtnman | korl: please be less opaque |
| 22:30.44 | Gathond | outlaw84: also with 3d acceleration? what card is it? |
| 22:31.01 | lamp_ | do i need xfntserv because it is sucking 18 mb memory out of my 128 mb |
| 22:31.10 | outlaw84 | Gathond: yes also with 3d hardware... its a Radeon 9800 Pro |
| 22:31.11 | iostream | This is not intended as flame or anything like that. If was just wondering if there are some people present, who have used Arch Linux, and have some comments about it? |
| 22:31.14 | korl | mtnman, when I type startx it's dead. when I type xf86cfg it enter into something similar to fvwm but the mouse doesn't work there and it's only not 800x600 resolution but much higher |
| 22:31.15 | Gathond | iirc the opensource one supports Radeons in the sub R250 family only |
| 22:31.35 | Gathond | outlaw84: that is definetly not supported by the OSS ati driver in 3d |
| 22:31.46 | stew | outlaw84: they are only up to 9300 for 3d support afaik |
| 22:31.49 | mtnman | korl: are you doing startx as root or normal user? |
| 22:31.51 | Gathond | outlaw84: what documentation did you find that in? |
| 22:32.02 | hfly | is the fb.mode file supposed to be installed by default when I install fbset ? |
| 22:32.02 | mtnman | korl: and what is the error msg? same as before? |
| 22:32.09 | korl | mtnman, startx as normal user. xf86cfg as root. |
| 22:32.11 | drac | stew: 9250 |
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| 22:32.54 | outlaw84 | Gathond: man radeon |
| 22:33.00 | mtnman | korl: and what is the error msg? same as before? |
| 22:33.08 | outlaw84 | Gathond: also on www.x.org |
| 22:33.18 | Gathond | outlaw84: anyway, install the fglrx driver from ATI, google for "fglrx debian install" then follow the first link |
| 22:33.20 | korl | mtnman: when doing startx get the same error message |
| 22:33.32 | korl | mtnman: check this out: # ps ax|grep x |
| 22:33.34 | Zrin | I need a suggestion for small office NAT/router setup with sarge - what packages / setup is recommended |
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| 22:33.50 | korl | mtnman: 12180 ? S 0:04 X :8 +accessx -allowMouseOpenFail -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new |
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| 22:34.29 | mtnman | korl: dunno, but i need to go. read the logs, google. good luck. |
| 22:34.32 | outlaw84 | Gathond: I used that driver with XFree86 and it kind off worked... But when switching to console mode the graphics crashed... is it the same when using xorg? |
| 22:34.42 | Gathond | outlaw84: no idea |
| 22:34.42 | korl | mtnman: thanks a lot anyway!! |
| 22:34.58 | Gathond | outlaw84: but its your best bet for 3d on that card |
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| 22:35.07 | mtnman | korl: you're welcome. but i hate to be defeated!!! |
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| 22:35.25 | korl | mtnman, ditto |
| 22:35.35 | korl | mtnman, in the end I'll get x to work |
| 22:35.37 | mmiikkee12 | how about woody? i once installed that from floppies on i386 |
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| 22:35.43 | mtnman | korl: i have no doubt of that. |
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| 22:36.18 | outlaw84 | Gathond: that sucks I rather be without 3d then not having my console mode... |
| 22:36.34 | Gathond | outlaw84: make that choice then |
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| 22:36.48 | Gathond | outlaw84: I personally had the same problem with the nvidia drivers |
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| 22:37.21 | Gathond | hmmm x.org does not seem to include radeon documentation only rage 128 and earlier |
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| 22:37.58 | cafuego_ | Uh, a rage128 isn't a radeon |
| 22:38.07 | cafuego_ | uh, i am asleep :-) |
| 22:38.10 | Gathond | cafuego: really? :) |
| 22:38.14 | TucoDeAnimal | hello, how can forward a tcp and udp port from the public ip address to the lan internal address ? |
| 22:38.29 | cafuego_ | never mind, i'll go and get more coffee, i clearly need it. |
| 22:38.33 | Gathond | cafuego: hence my nagging over them not including that family only every other ati card in existence :) |
| 22:38.50 | EL1TE | TucoDeAnimal, that depends on what router you have |
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| 22:39.06 | TucoDeAnimal | I have a debian |
| 22:39.22 | TucoDeAnimal | EL1TE, I connect my public ip address to a Debian 3.1 |
| 22:39.31 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal sshd? |
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| 22:39.45 | halibut | If I am currently using unstable, can a "downgrade" to testing? |
| 22:40.07 | simonrvn | no |
| 22:40.08 | TucoDeAnimal | mfrisch, etho public , eth1 lan |
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| 22:40.40 | Benbread | Does anyone know where i can find and download xorg-devel? |
| 22:40.43 | Gathond | outlaw84: the information (found it now) in that manpage also mentions not supporting 3d on R300+ cards |
| 22:40.58 | Gathond | http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/radeon.4.html I guess that is the content of the man page? |
| 22:41.03 | outlaw84 | Gathond: I found it now i Xorg.log "(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not yet supported on Radeon 9500 and newer card" |
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| 22:41.17 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal goto openssh.org |
| 22:41.52 | TucoDeAnimal | mfrisch, No but I need to redir an UDP port to an internal ip address, I was tring REDIR but its for TCP connections |
| 22:42.13 | cafuego_ | Which Xorg version is that? |
| 22:42.17 | outlaw84 | Gathond: they should change the documentation to "R300 and newer" instead of just R300 |
| 22:42.51 | Gathond | outlaw84: yes, think that is just an outdated thing, as far as I saw it said (2d) at all the actual cards mentioned later |
| 22:42.58 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal you can redirect, tunnel, with ssh. or a vpn |
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| 22:43.14 | cafuego_ | I'm sure I've heard of 9600's working with xorg dri. |
| 22:43.20 | cafuego_ | (without fglrx) |
| 22:43.51 | outlaw84 | Gathond: but I dont even get full 2D support... |
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| 22:44.15 | Gathond | outlaw84: you should |
| 22:44.15 | outlaw84 | Gathond: I get like half 2d support.. I tryed disabling it completly |
| 22:44.17 | TucoDeAnimal | mfrisch, and with iptables? |
| 22:44.20 | Gathond | outlaw84: at least afaik |
| 22:44.48 | outlaw84 | Gathond: what is afaik? |
| 22:44.53 | Gathond | of cause the fancier stuff like video overlay and such might not work |
| 22:44.55 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal forward it, I use shorewall, its an xtra line. |
| 22:45.02 | Gathond | afaik = as far as I know |
| 22:45.24 | TucoDeAnimal | mfrisch, can you copy it here ? |
| 22:45.39 | outlaw84 | I guess I'll have to wait a while for that hardware support.. |
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| 22:46.12 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal copy what my /etc/shorewall/rules...will in #paste?!? |
| 22:46.26 | Gathond | outlaw84: I think its an indefinite wait |
| 22:46.29 | trueno | Hi! Anyone knows how to set a papersize of a3 if using pdflatex? |
| 22:46.30 | Miesco | I deleted /etc/init.d/oidentd and when I reinstall oidentd it doesn't add it to /etc/init.d, how do I get it back there? |
| 22:46.31 | TucoDeAnimal | mfrisch, the line that I need in order to do that |
| 22:46.32 | Gathond | ohhh well |
| 22:46.44 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal give me a sec |
| 22:46.59 | trueno | \whois TucoDeAnimal |
| 22:47.05 | bbrazil | Miesco: purge it, then reinstall |
| 22:47.43 | Miesco | bbrazil: How do I purge it? |
| 22:47.50 | Miesco | bbrazil: Can I do it with apt-get? |
| 22:48.15 | Tortel | yea |
| 22:48.19 | Tortel | umm |
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| 22:48.48 | Tortel | apt-get --purge (package) |
| 22:48.59 | Tortel | :) |
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| 22:49.11 | Miesco | I did apt-get --purge remove (package) |
| 22:49.17 | Miesco | Did I mess up my computer? |
| 22:49.23 | Tortel | umm, no idea |
| 22:49.25 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal I can't find my table for forwarding... |
| 22:49.34 | TucoDeAnimal | ok |
| 22:50.35 | Benbread | Does anyone know of an easy way to install x11 devel files (pref. apt)? :) |
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| 22:51.11 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal I have forwarding rules, I can only show you the shorewall version..probally no help/ |
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| 22:51.46 | TucoDeAnimal | mfrisch, ok thanks |
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| 22:52.11 | mfrisch | TucoDeAnimal sorry |
| 22:52.12 | gar | hi |
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| 22:52.40 | TucoDeAnimal | no pro |
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| 22:52.42 | TucoDeAnimal | prob |
| 22:52.45 | Miesco | Is this right: 18500 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/oidentd -mf -P 192.168.2.1 -u nobody -g nog |
| 22:53.06 | Miesco | Cause quakenet still cant find ident |
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| 22:53.16 | Tortel | :o |
| 22:53.19 | Tortel | quakenet? |
| 22:53.27 | Tortel | im on that now |
| 22:53.41 | bucky | Benbread, apt-get install libx11-dev |
| 22:53.41 | Miesco | Tortel: Well I cant go on it, I need identd |
| 22:53.45 | Tortel | debian came with pidentd |
| 22:53.53 | Tortel | well, for me at least |
| 22:53.54 | Miesco | Tortel: I dont know how to use it |
| 22:54.19 | Benbread | bucky: perfect :D thanks alot :) |
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| 22:54.31 | Tortel | Miesco: It just connected first try for me, try forewarding/unblocking port 113 |
| 22:55.12 | zarel | Okay, I finally got KDE to work. |
| 22:55.42 | Zarel | But it refuses to give me 1024x768 screen resolution. |
| 22:56.02 | imageek | i wish my laptop gave me better than 1024x768 |
| 22:56.03 | Miesco | Tortel: Do you know how to get pidentd to work? |
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| 22:56.14 | Zarel | I mean, 1280x1024. |
| 22:56.17 | halibut | what is the difference between mepis and debian? |
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| 22:56.23 | Zarel | It doesn't seem to want to go higher than 1280x960. |
| 22:56.25 | halibut | is mepis meant to be easier to install? |
| 22:56.26 | Miesco | Tortel: Do you have this file: /etc/iinit.d/identd? |
| 22:56.27 | Zarel | Any help? |
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| 22:56.35 | Tortel | Miesco: hold on |
| 22:56.59 | offby1 | any news about debian.org? Seems dead. |
| 22:57.00 | imageek | Zarel, limitations on your vid card? check your ranges in xorg.conf for your monitor |
| 22:57.05 | halibut | does debian installer allow me to use my old /home partition? |
| 22:57.12 | Zarel | Where do I find xorg.conf? |
| 22:57.19 | cheal | offby1: it's not |
| 22:57.28 | imageek | Zarel, /etc/X11/ |
| 22:57.42 | imageek | offby1, it seems to be working fine to me |
| 22:57.49 | offby1 | cheal: what IP address do you get? For me it's 192.25.206.10 |
| 22:57.52 | Tortel | Miesco: no, closest i have is inetd |
| 22:57.52 | cheal | halibut: yes |
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| 22:58.18 | Miesco | Tortel, okay, do you have pidentd working? |
| 22:58.30 | imageek | offby1, thats the one i get also |
| 22:58.32 | cheal | offby1: I get that one too, which works |
| 22:58.32 | Miesco | Tortel: You know what, I think I probably just need to portforward it :) |
| 22:59.03 | Zarel | You know, this "Every appplication's name starts with 'K'" thing is getting a bit annoying. |
| 22:59.19 | cheal | halibut: ask #mepis. for one thing, debian is completely free |
| 22:59.19 | offby1 | weird, using an anonymizing proxy (tor) allows it to work. Must be a routing problem with my ISP ?! |
| 22:59.23 | Benbread | Zarel: why so? |
| 22:59.33 | Zarel | ... |
| 22:59.39 | halibut | Zarel, I agree completely |
| 22:59.47 | Miesco | Tortel: Whats the port for identd? |
| 22:59.58 | offby1 | Miesco: look in /etc/services |
| 23:00.00 | Zarel | imageek: I'm not finding xorg.conf |
| 23:00.48 | Benbread | I wouldn't say so, allows people to see that it's a KDE product, though does kind of restrict what it can be called - for example how the hell does "Atlantik" bear any resembelence to "monopoly" - at least call it "Konoploy" |
| 23:00.50 | imageek | Zarel, err.. maybe XFree86 .. or something like htat? |
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| 23:01.45 | Zarel | There's a XF86Config-4 |
| 23:01.48 | Zarel | Is that what you mean? |
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| 23:02.49 | Tortel | Miesco: 113 |
| 23:03.00 | Zarel | imageek: Okay, there's a "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" line in it. |
| 23:03.16 | Zarel | Can I just change the "1280x960" to "1280x1024"? |
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| 23:03.53 | imageek | Zarel, maybe. you can try |
| 23:03.57 | Miesco | Tortel: Do you get anything from ps aux | grep identd |
| 23:04.03 | imageek | if it doesnt work it will default back to the one less than that |
| 23:04.10 | Tortel | Miesco: ??? |
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| 23:04.53 | Zarel | No write access. |
| 23:05.08 | Zarel | Do I have to turn off KDE before I can change it? |
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| 23:05.15 | imageek | Zarel, you have to edit it as root |
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| 23:05.25 | Zarel | I know. But do I have to turn off KDE, too? |
| 23:05.36 | Tortel | Miesco: No idea |
| 23:05.52 | Miesco | What do you get when you type this: ps aux | grep ident |
| 23:05.54 | crispynix | Zarel: you have to exit your session for the changes to take effect, yes |
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| 23:07.43 | Zarel | In that case, I'll be back in a few seconds. |
| 23:08.07 | Zarel | Do I have to restart Debian, or just KDE? |
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| 23:11.25 | Miesco | Can someone telnet Toronto-HSE-ppp3896605.sympatico.ca 113 |
| 23:11.30 | Miesco | And tell me if it connects |
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| 23:12.24 | crispynix | Miesco: yes |
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| 23:13.32 | Miesco | crispynix: It does work? |
| 23:13.49 | crispynix | Miesco: Indeed, it connects and seems to work. |
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| 23:14.15 | TwistedEmotions | wtf is a uide drive? |
| 23:14.15 | Miesco | I still cant connect to quakenet though: Install and enable identd before you connect back from this host. Thank you.. |
| 23:14.21 | TwistedEmotions | http://www.memorylabs.net/mapliima30ui.html |
| 23:14.22 | TwistedEmotions | ? |
| 23:14.22 | halibut | are there English (UK) spell checkers by default in open office? |
| 23:14.26 | TwistedEmotions | Good deal right? |
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| 23:14.35 | TwistedEmotions | !uide |
| 23:14.35 | Miesco | halibut I think aspell |
| 23:14.40 | TwistedEmotions | !dict uide |
| 23:14.41 | dpkg | could not find definition for uide |
| 23:15.09 | Miesco | brb |
| 23:15.24 | meff | i have a mosue with like 10 buttons total (including scrollwheel 4 and 5) .. any way to turn off everything after 5? the one near my thumb pastes just like middle clicking and i keep accidentally pasting into things :X |
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| 23:15.45 | zarel | Nope, didn't work. |
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| 23:16.36 | yc | looking for pointers on how to listen to a hockey game on internet radio using debian |
| 23:16.37 | Zarel | Can anyone tell me how I can set my screen resolution to 1280x1024? |
| 23:16.47 | Zarel | KDE doesn't seem to want to go beyond 1280x960 |
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| 23:17.02 | cafuego_ | Coz kde is yuck ;-) |
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| 23:17.43 | sn00p | anybody know how to share files between vmware hosts if I host windows xp is there anyway to get files from xp through linux? |
| 23:18.20 | nvz | sn00p: that off-topic. use vmnet or mount the host filesystem |
| 23:18.53 | sn00p | nvz: i'm using vmnet |
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| 23:19.45 | sn00p | nvz: how do i get the files? |
| 23:19.59 | nvz | use samba |
| 23:20.22 | sn00p | in linux or the host? |
| 23:20.23 | cheal | Zarel: is that resolution enabled in your X config? |
| 23:20.28 | nvz | both |
| 23:20.48 | Zarel | cheal: No idea. How do I enable it? |
| 23:20.55 | cheal | !drxx Zarel |
| 23:20.57 | dpkg | Zarel: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:21.10 | mirak | is it possible to shrink ext3 ? |
| 23:21.16 | cheal | wow, nice catchup in stable security |
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| 23:26.02 | Zarel | Okay, it's asking me for a x-server driver. |
| 23:26.22 | Zarel | I have a GeForce MX series video card, and I have no idea which driver to use. |
| 23:26.28 | imageek | nv |
| 23:26.36 | imageek | or install the nvidia driver from nvidia |
| 23:26.48 | solidgroove | Zarel, nv or nvidia if you have the nvidia driver |
| 23:27.20 | solidgroove | my cd-r's suck during install i get kde-libs error |
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| 23:28.18 | Benbread | does anyone know of a simple way to get libpng-devel? (apt-get doesn't like that name) :) |
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| 23:28.36 | cadu | how can i read a "printed" .ps file? (file print from mozilla) |
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| 23:29.14 | Supaplex | cadu: gs(1) or ps2pdf |
| 23:29.21 | Inv_arp | on a fresh sarge install, on boot i noticed some modules attemptig to be loaded... what file , daemon handles that? |
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| 23:30.19 | cadu | Supaplex: thanks.... debian package name for both? |
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| 23:31.15 | cadu | Supaplex: thaks ^^ |
| 23:31.23 | Supaplex | np :) |
| 23:31.23 | cadu | ah damn dvorak keyboard |
| 23:31.27 | cadu | thaNks :) |
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| 23:32.02 | TwistedEmotions | !test |
| 23:32.02 | dpkg | Sorry, twistedemotions, I didn't get your test. |
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| 23:33.21 | WhiteStone | Hi |
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| 23:33.45 | WhiteStone | I'm installing Debian dual boot on a system and I would like to know if anyone would advise putting the kernel on it's own partition |
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| 23:34.01 | WhiteStone | I had thought about putting the system kernel on it's own partition as a primary. and have the rest of the system as a logical |
| 23:34.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: everything ok now? |
| 23:34.07 | WhiteStone | Will that work well? |
| 23:34.19 | Tortel | how do i find out my current private IP? |
| 23:34.27 | deadcat | Tortel: ifconfig |
| 23:35.59 | WhiteStone | any suggestions? |
| 23:37.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahah kinda... |
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| 23:37.17 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: need to buy a new HD |
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| 23:38.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. its fucked or out of space? |
| 23:39.12 | TwistedEmotions | out of space |
| 23:39.16 | deadcat | o |
| 23:39.49 | torfinn | Hi, I am using Debian Sarge with a kernel updated from 2.4.27 to 2.6.8, using Gnome - no sound from Totem in 2.6.8 . #lsof /dev/snd show Totem, other sound applications use OSS #lsof /dev/dsp. How to configure ALSA for Totem? |
| 23:40.13 | thingfish | torfinn: check for presence of alsa-base. |
| 23:40.13 | WhiteStone | Is ALSA using GStreamer or Xine? |
| 23:40.24 | WhiteStone | Er |
| 23:40.26 | torfinn | How to check? |
| 23:40.30 | WhiteStone | lol I mean is Totem using GStreamer or Xine |
| 23:40.39 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: getting a 320gig one for 140$ |
| 23:40.48 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: damn. |
| 23:40.52 | WhiteStone | you should have totem-gstreamer if it's using gstreamer |
| 23:40.54 | thingfish | torfinn: dpkg -s alsa-base, or use synaptic if you prefer gui. |
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| 23:40.58 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: I got a 400gb for $200 |
| 23:41.16 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: fucking financial aid office sending me more junks.. i mean. if they dont want to give me the $. let me know.. fuck them. |
| 23:42.09 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: Where did do you that? |
| 23:42.16 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: fillem out man |
| 23:42.17 | WhiteStone | frys |
| 23:42.27 | torfinn | "dpkg -s alsa-base" Package `alsa-base' is not installed and no info is available. |
| 23:42.28 | WhiteStone | they had a sale going there |
| 23:42.40 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: dont wana wait for sale ;( I love frys though |
| 23:42.45 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i guess. i think i have to see some more advisor or something.. fucking bullshit i tell you.. |
| 23:42.45 | thingfish | torfinn: then apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 23:42.53 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: I prefer Comp USA |
| 23:43.01 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: but Comp's selection has gotten really pathetic |
| 23:43.10 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: just go do it |
| 23:43.20 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: CompUSA = $$$$$ |
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| 23:43.36 | WhiteStone | they didn't used to be as bad |
| 23:44.33 | deadcat | WhiteStone: they were bad when they charged me over $100 and still didnt fix my computer back in the days... those useless pricks |
| 23:44.49 | WhiteStone | I never used them to fix my computer |
| 23:44.50 | thingfish | that's why I started building my own. |
| 23:44.53 | WhiteStone | I just got parts from them |
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| 23:45.26 | WhiteStone | I was like the only one in my school that could build a computer, lol |
| 23:45.36 | thingfish | and it's so easy, really. |
| 23:45.40 | deadcat | WhiteStone: you must be proud |
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| 23:45.45 | WhiteStone | It was annoying |
| 23:46.01 | WhiteStone | They wouldn't let me fix their computer problems because I wasn't in the specially picked clicque of 6th graders |
| 23:46.10 | WhiteStone | this was when i was in 4th grade |
| 23:46.11 | WhiteStone | lol |
| 23:46.11 | hfly | How do I check the framebuffer driver name ? |
| 23:46.25 | deadcat | hfly: /proc/fb |
| 23:46.30 | beardy | WhiteStone: How old are you? |
| 23:46.33 | WhiteStone | 14 |
| 23:46.45 | WhiteStone | my 7th grade teacher thought i was some kind of freakin genious becuase i could install windows, lol |
| 23:47.05 | tmg1|g77 | lol |
| 23:47.12 | thingfish | "genius" |
| 23:47.16 | WhiteStone | Installing windoze is no fun |
| 23:47.18 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: word of advice.. skip highschool... go straight to JC... own there... go to university.. get degree.. |
| 23:47.34 | beardy | TwistedEmotions: Is that possible? |
| 23:47.36 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: I'm homeschooled now |
| 23:47.42 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: good point about the hs skipping cus hes gonna be the target for jocks (= |
| 23:47.43 | TwistedEmotions | beardy: sure is. |
| 23:47.49 | WhiteStone | my entire 7 years in school were painful |
| 23:47.54 | thingfish | poor boy |
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| 23:48.05 | WhiteStone | my school was a wreck |
| 23:48.05 | TwistedEmotions | ohh.. I was a dick in HS.. hahaha... |
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| 23:48.19 | WhiteStone | the teachers would protect the jerks |
| 23:48.28 | tmg1|g77 | my highschool collapsed in 97 :) |
| 23:48.33 | deadcat | WhiteStone: ya. its called majority rules |
| 23:48.34 | TwistedEmotions | I would mess with the jerks.. hahaha |
| 23:48.34 | tmg1|g77 | you think yours was a wreck :) |
| 23:48.38 | hfly | deadcat: the name given there is '0 ATI Radeon A6' what setting should I have on the video= option for grub ? |
| 23:48.38 | TwistedEmotions | tmg1|g77: hahahahha! |
| 23:48.40 | WhiteStone | If anything happened and I was around they said it was my fault |
| 23:48.58 | WhiteStone | and of course they even admitted that they never saw anything |
| 23:49.06 | deadcat | hfly: radeonfb |
| 23:49.24 | WhiteStone | I guess I could have gotten a lawyer and pressed charges for being ratially discremenate |
| 23:49.28 | hfly | deadcat: hum ok lets see |
| 23:49.33 | WhiteStone | even though they were just protecting their group of troubled kit |
| 23:49.35 | WhiteStone | er kids |
| 23:49.44 | tmg1|g77 | the school got multi-million reconstruction grants from the government, and each department got a repair budget. My band teacher ignored the mould and fungus growing on his carpet (the music section didn't collapse, somehow), and instead bought a bunch of computer systems, making our highschool the highest tech in the province for awhile |
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| 23:49.51 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: yeah mee too.. I always got blamed for screwing girls there just cause I was there naked and inside them.. what BS. |
| 23:49.54 | beardy | WhiteStone: What TwistedEmotions adviced you is proably a good idea then. |
| 23:50.03 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: later man. i need to finish my book by tmoorrow so then i can start my freewrite. )= |
| 23:50.04 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: rofl lmao |
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| 23:50.19 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: What was amusing is they would say I hit someone |
| 23:50.23 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: goooood luck ;) |
| 23:50.25 | WhiteStone | When there were no viable witnesses |
| 23:50.30 | WhiteStone | and no brusies or scars |
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| 23:50.37 | WhiteStone | they were sure it was that peaceful guy's fault |
| 23:50.48 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: you should have gone along with it then gone back and hit the guy... |
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| 23:50.58 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: double jeoperdy right? |
| 23:51.06 | WhiteStone | That only works for criminal charges |
| 23:51.08 | TwistedEmotions | jesus... I still cant spell. |
| 23:51.21 | torfinn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.27 | WhiteStone | Doesn't really work for one-sided school officials |
| 23:51.56 | WhiteStone | It was so bad that the stories we heard from the principal didn't match up |
| 23:51.59 | TwistedEmotions | WhiteStone: you should fine the officials you dont like... then sleep with their daughters... |
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| 23:52.08 | WhiteStone | One time his group would say Story A, and the next meeting he would say someting comletely different |
| 23:52.25 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: I don't think these people had children |
| 23:52.50 | TwistedEmotions | Im sure that some of them did |
| 23:52.56 | WhiteStone | If i had to do it again I would probably try to get a lawyer and say they were treating me unfailrly because I'm native american |
| 23:52.59 | WhiteStone | Just to be a pain in the ass |
| 23:54.05 | WhiteStone | TwistedEmotions: I don't think we had any reports that someone got caught screwing the girls at our school |
| 23:54.11 | WhiteStone | But then again it was an elementary school so that would' |
| 23:54.15 | WhiteStone | ve just been odd |
| 23:54.17 | WhiteStone | stupid enter key |
| 23:54.30 | resiak | WhiteStone: Use Dvorak. Then the key adjacent to Return is \ :) |
| 23:54.41 | WhiteStone | I can't find a Dvorak |
| 23:54.46 | resiak | s/\/-/ |
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| 23:54.53 | Usiu | Hi |
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| 23:54.58 | resiak | (Yes, I typoed while mentioning how to avoid typoing :)) |
| 23:55.01 | WhiteStone | Aloha Usiu |
| 23:55.07 | WhiteStone | resiak: the irony |
| 23:55.10 | Usiu | Building the build Environment |
| 23:55.10 | Usiu | Try `readlink --help' for more information. |
| 23:55.10 | Usiu | cp: missing destination file |
| 23:55.18 | Usiu | Any ideas ? |
| 23:55.25 | resiak | !any ideas |
| 23:55.25 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little K-Y jelly, and a dozen three-legged badgers. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 23:56.04 | beardy | heh, haven't noticed the dozen three-legged badgers before.. |
| 23:56.06 | WhiteStone | I know the answer to your question |
| 23:56.12 | WhiteStone | the answer is... |
| 23:56.13 | WhiteStone | 42 |
| 23:56.32 | Usiu | ? |
| 23:56.38 | resiak | Usiu: If you want a helpful answer from anyone, you'll need to give more information about what you are trying to achieve. /msg dpkg ask |
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| 23:56.56 | Usiu | resiak, build package with pbuilder |
| 23:57.30 | Usiu | resiak, http://rafb.net/paste/results/kgspIG97.html |
| 23:57.33 | resiak | Usiu: I didn't say _I_ would help. I'm going AFK. Ask a decent question of the channel, and you may get an answer. |
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| 23:58.00 | Usiu | How to fix pbuilder ? Problem -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/kgspIG97.html |
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| 23:59.37 | nostra | Hello. When I mount a partition in (rw) mode and start writting data to it, it turns readonly and i can't do anything with it anymore. What is going on? |
| 23:59.58 | torfinn | WhiteStone: Totem: Is Totem using GStreamer or Xine? #lsof | grep totem ...lots of mentioning "xine"! |
