| 00:00.06 | Fox_1_ | where id the route table file? |
| 00:00.10 | Fox_1_ | id=is |
| 00:00.15 | sandman | links2 also segfaults regularly over here :) |
| 00:00.34 | sandman | Actually links2 segfaults on all my debian installs :) |
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| 00:00.47 | staniel | Hello |
| 00:00.48 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 00:01.08 | coagen | so how do i repeat a command in the console |
| 00:01.10 | coagen | i forgot |
| 00:01.18 | abrotman | up |
| 00:01.32 | staniel | It seems that nautilus keeps crashing forsome reason, and then the "Authentication Required" screen comes up to connect me to a smb service locks up |
| 00:01.46 | Fox_1_ | abrotman where is the route table file? |
| 00:01.52 | Huston | I wanted to let everyone know that I got my problem solved with my printer |
| 00:01.55 | staniel | anyone know how to take any smb servers out of the gnome-keyring? |
| 00:01.59 | Huston | thanks for your help |
| 00:02.11 | abrotman | Fox_1_: in ram AFAIK |
| 00:02.13 | simonrvn | coagen: up key, or ^p |
| 00:02.37 | abrotman | Fox_1_: /proc/ maybe ? |
| 00:02.53 | coagen | simonrvn: no i want to make it repeat a comman every second or soe |
| 00:02.55 | coagen | *so |
| 00:03.04 | simonrvn | oh, then while loop |
| 00:03.09 | abrotman | watch |
| 00:03.16 | EvilSporkMan | coagen, while sleep 1s; do command; done; |
| 00:03.19 | abrotman | watch |
| 00:03.22 | EvilSporkMan | that'll never terminate though |
| 00:03.25 | abrotman | watch who |
| 00:03.30 | abrotman | etc |
| 00:03.42 | EvilSporkMan | hey, watch looks cool too ^^; |
| 00:03.56 | jharrison | will code compiled for x86 hardware run on amb64 hardware without being recompiled for amd64? |
| 00:03.59 | coagen | EvilSporkMan: thanks!! ;) |
| 00:04.00 | sandman | hackeron_: Submit a bugreport |
| 00:04.09 | EvilSporkMan | coagen, watch looks like a better idea; man watch |
| 00:04.09 | sandman | hackeron_: reportbug |
| 00:04.18 | jharrison | amd64 hardware is still x86 compatible right? |
| 00:04.18 | abrotman | jharrison: if 32bit libs are present .. ask #debian-amd64 |
| 00:04.19 | EvilSporkMan | jharrison, only technically |
| 00:04.20 | coagen | ook i'll try it |
| 00:04.31 | jharrison | guess ill have to try it |
| 00:04.57 | unique311 | i'm getting permission denied when i try to acces the /home, how can i change the users permission so that he can acess it? |
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| 00:05.13 | Fox_1_ | abrotman i have made some changes with webmin and now i need old setting |
| 00:05.14 | Fox_1_ | s |
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| 00:05.26 | abrotman | now i know the source of all the problems |
| 00:05.38 | gravity | heh |
| 00:05.42 | Fox_1_ | yes |
| 00:06.14 | Huston | what are you trying to do unique |
| 00:06.30 | Fox_1_ | when in first time i run webmin it del lot's of route rows and now it doesn't work |
| 00:06.39 | jharrison | Fox_1_: best thing for you to do is aptitude purge webmin |
| 00:06.50 | beardy | !webmin |
| 00:06.50 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 00:06.53 | maher | Fox_1_: webmin - doesn't work - hmm.... |
| 00:06.56 | gravity | Poor webmin. So unloved. |
| 00:07.12 | jharrison | Fox_1_: you could use gentoo as your admin interface on top of debian |
| 00:07.20 | unique311 | Huston: give the user i just created access to more than just his folder (/home/user). |
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| 00:07.36 | beardy | jharrison: What was that? |
| 00:07.40 | jharrison | hehe |
| 00:07.43 | Fox_1_ | now please help me to back my old setting |
| 00:07.45 | jharrison | beardy: thats what I said |
| 00:07.59 | maher | unique311: you need to give users accesses to the binaries otherwise they can't do anything |
| 00:08.10 | EvilSporkMan | the problem with webmin is that the risk is so great relative to anyone's confidence in its security, right? |
| 00:08.17 | jharrison | beardy: got an email from customer the other day asking for debian OS with gentoo as the admin interface |
| 00:08.37 | beardy | jharrison: heh, and what did you tell him? |
| 00:08.46 | beardy | him/her |
| 00:08.49 | abrotman | jharrison: the file browser ? |
| 00:08.51 | jharrison | beardy: so we asked them to clarify things and they said gentoo is a admin interface like webmin and can we install it for them and the proceeded to give us the www.gentoo.org link |
| 00:08.53 | EvilSporkMan | is fwbuilder considered good? |
| 00:08.59 | maher | EvilSporkMan: the problem is youdon't know how to configure your computer - if you install webmin youstill don't know how to configure your computer and now you don't know how to configure webmin either |
| 00:09.00 | jharrison | abrotman: nope |
| 00:09.04 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 00:09.06 | jharrison | abrotman: gentoo the distrobution |
| 00:09.12 | beardy | jharrison: How nice of them.. |
| 00:09.13 | jharrison | beardy: I have not replied yet |
| 00:09.16 | EvilSporkMan | maher: makes sense |
| 00:09.18 | beardy | jharrison: :) |
| 00:09.32 | jharrison | beardy: I am giving them a chance to redeem themselves |
| 00:09.33 | abrotman | distribution? distrobution ? |
| 00:09.39 | jharrison | abrotman: whatever |
| 00:09.45 | beardy | jharrison: Don't. Unless they pay very good. |
| 00:09.50 | abrotman | jharrison: tell them you only provide HURD as the admin interface |
| 00:09.54 | maher | jharrison: can't you just install debian and alias emerge apt-get install |
| 00:10.02 | jharrison | maher: :) |
| 00:10.05 | jharrison | maher: thats a good one |
| 00:10.19 | jharrison | maher: you have a good sense of humour |
| 00:10.37 | abrotman | i'm mean .. grrr! |
| 00:10.37 | maher | jharrison: maybe i was serious :) |
| 00:10.50 | jharrison | maher: still good sense of humour |
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| 00:11.23 | sandman | Yeah so what's up with this |
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| 00:11.27 | sandman | Nobody has been able to help me yet |
| 00:11.28 | jharrison | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/16/bofh_2005_episode_15/ |
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| 00:11.40 | jharrison | sandman: bring me a dream? |
| 00:11.49 | Fox_1_ | where webmin save backup files? |
| 00:11.57 | jharrison | Fox_1_: I hope I never know |
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| 00:12.26 | abrotman | sandman: i thought you found the problem |
| 00:13.05 | eck | how can i get debian grub to recreate my menu.lst? |
| 00:13.36 | snd | I have to move mail servers, former was running postfix/courierimap... new one is running exim4/courierimap... both using Maildir format. Since I have only a handful of users I can simply tar their Maildir/cur/ and extract in on the new server correct? |
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| 00:13.54 | maria | Hi |
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| 00:14.14 | jharrison | snd: sounds like it might work |
| 00:14.27 | maria | Can anyone tell me how to download shockwave or what the equivalent program might be? |
| 00:14.35 | snd | it does work actually but is something wrong with 1 or 2 emails |
| 00:14.40 | snd | there^ |
| 00:14.43 | abrotman | snd: sounds doubtful :) |
| 00:15.05 | nog | snd, do it and let us know if it works |
| 00:15.06 | abrotman | !flash |
| 00:15.07 | dpkg | it has been said that flash is If you want the flashplayer browser plugin, go to http://www.flash.com and follow the instructions there. Or look at the flashplugin-nonfree package, or most flash crap you see is from banner ads, and very little of it actual real and potentially interesting content. get yourself some object blocking/filtering extensions in your favourite browser, or missing fonts? install gsfonts-x11 |
| 00:15.20 | snd | nog: i just told you i did it, and it doesnt work 100% |
| 00:15.32 | maher | snd: what's wrong? |
| 00:15.58 | snd | well how does the maildir format work... emails are stored in individual files right, but is there some index file or something |
| 00:15.59 | maria | Is the "flash" info a respoonse to my question? |
| 00:16.04 | abrotman | maher: obviously .. doesn't work |
| 00:16.08 | yoo | somebody can help me with my hauppage TV card ? |
| 00:16.09 | maher | maria: apt-cache search flash - there should be a browser plugin - you may need non-free and contrib in your apt sources |
| 00:16.11 | sandman | No, I didn't find the problem. |
| 00:16.13 | abrotman | maria: yes .. you want flashplugin-nonfree afaik |
| 00:16.22 | yoo | i have a problem with my tuner detection |
| 00:16.32 | maher | maria: do you want to make flash or view flash? |
| 00:16.34 | yoo | tuner 2-0061: tuner type not set |
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| 00:16.54 | maria | my son wants to play games that require shockwave |
| 00:17.06 | abrotman | i htink that flash thing works |
| 00:17.26 | abrotman | maria: care to share the url . i have flash installed here(though from macromedia.com not from apt) |
| 00:17.41 | maher | maria: try flashplugin-nonfree or flashplayer-mozilla |
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| 00:18.29 | maria | My brother started me on this linux system. I really don't know much. Tel me how to share the url. |
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| 00:19.08 | abrotman | maria: you can just type it in .. or highlight it . then middle click here |
| 00:19.09 | beardy | maria: Copy the url (the adress of the page with the flash-game) and paste it here. |
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| 00:20.07 | maria | http://sdc.shockwave.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi? |
| 00:20.11 | maria | Here it is |
| 00:20.23 | abrotman | that's not a game :) |
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| 00:20.34 | abrotman | i meant .. where is the game ? |
| 00:21.24 | maria | http://vmk.disney.go.com/vmk/en_US/quests/index?name=QuestsLandingPage |
| 00:21.34 | maria | okay, this is the game (says my son) |
| 00:21.41 | EvilSporkMan | hey guys, that's Shockwave, NOT Flash |
| 00:21.46 | EvilSporkMan | they're _not_ the same |
| 00:22.09 | Fox_1_ | listen. as i say i have 2 comp. 1: eth0 - 195.250.88.106(mask 255.255.254.0), eth1 - 62.89.11.129 (mask 255.255.255.248). second comp eth0 - 62.89.11.130 (255.255.255.248). now when i ping from second comp's to 62.89.11.129 it work. from second comp i ping to 195.250.88.106 (first comp's eth0) it's work. but for internet first comp use dns server 195.250.64.65 and 195.250.64.68. but second comp doesn't see 195.250.64.65 and 195.250.64.68. for first |
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| 00:22.15 | EvilSporkMan | I stand corrected...flash player wants to play it |
| 00:22.21 | abrotman | hehe .. i would have to register |
| 00:22.22 | Fox_1_ | second comp doesn't see 195.250.88.1 too. |
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| 00:22.51 | EvilSporkMan | oh, wait, no, that's the flash ad right above the game |
| 00:23.03 | EvilSporkMan | it probably _is_ shockwave, given the download page she linked to |
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| 00:23.21 | beardy | !shockwave |
| 00:23.22 | dpkg | Macromedia Shockwave Player is non-free software not available for GNU/Linux. For "Shockwave Flash" (Flash), ask me about flash |
| 00:23.24 | zepeuga | msg dpkg ide-scsi |
| 00:23.25 | abrotman | maria: it seems to work .. apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 00:23.27 | EvilSporkMan | i can't remember if there's a straight-up shockwave player; I'm inclined to think that there isn't because I wanted to play inklink once upon a time |
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| 00:23.40 | Fox_1_ | and second comp couldn't open internet pages |
| 00:23.43 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: the main routers will need to know how to direct traffic to that subnet |
| 00:23.50 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman, are you sure that isn't the flash ad or whatever it is above the enter game button? |
| 00:23.51 | nvz | omfg I am trying to eat pizza here and watching this puppet hurling over and over again isnt very satisfying :P |
| 00:24.01 | be0wulf__ | atal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/index.php on line 2 |
| 00:24.06 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk so, how can i do that? |
| 00:24.08 | maria | thanks. I'll try it. |
| 00:24.09 | be0wulf__ | there is sth wrong with mysql right? |
| 00:24.15 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: maybe .. i thought flash included shockwave |
| 00:24.17 | abrotman | !shockwave |
| 00:24.18 | dpkg | Macromedia Shockwave Player is non-free software not available for GNU/Linux. For "Shockwave Flash" (Flash), ask me about flash |
| 00:24.22 | dvs | nvz: Puppets Who Kill? |
| 00:24.23 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman, i thought it didn't |
| 00:24.24 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:24.26 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: you need to talk to your network admin for that |
| 00:24.34 | beardy | be0wulf__: How should we know, check the bts. |
| 00:24.37 | nvz | dvs: team america |
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| 00:24.50 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk what information i must ask from network admin? |
| 00:24.58 | dvs | nvz: Oh Gawd! Don't watch the sex scenes! |
| 00:25.12 | nvz | dvs: already seen em. that shit was funny |
| 00:25.23 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: you need to explain him what you did, the subnet you placed behind the 195.x.x.x ip so he can add the routes needed |
| 00:25.23 | maria | dpkg, tell me about flash |
| 00:25.41 | beardy | maria: You can "/msg dpkg flash" |
| 00:25.45 | nvz | dvs: aside from the fact they were puppets thats probably the most elaborate sex scene I've seen in a movie.. they were really going at it |
| 00:25.54 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk i know subnet |
| 00:26.17 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: it seems like your share of the work is done, that if you set up the correct default gateway for second box |
| 00:26.28 | maria | ? I don't understand, beardy. |
| 00:26.40 | Voot | in SQL, what's the difference between "WHERE column IN (attribute)" and WHERE column = 'attribute'??? |
| 00:26.43 | maria | (my dinner's burning :( ) |
| 00:26.49 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk so i need configure gateway. and can i do that? |
| 00:26.50 | beardy | maria: type this: /msg dpkg flash |
| 00:26.52 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i can play the games at hasbro.com |
| 00:27.03 | dvs | Voot: IN can handle multiple values |
| 00:27.03 | beardy | maria: In your irc client. |
| 00:27.17 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: box2 needs to know how to reach the internet, did you add a default gateway route to box2? |
| 00:27.28 | Voot | dvs, thanks man! |
| 00:27.35 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk no i didn't add anythins |
| 00:27.40 | dvs | Voot: No prob |
| 00:27.43 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: if you did, then internet needs to know how to reach box2, and that's your netadmins share of the work |
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| 00:28.03 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk please write command |
| 00:28.17 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: then add "route add default gw 62.89.11.129" in second box |
| 00:28.21 | grendal_prime | hey i got a machine thats hanging on boot...portmapper error...its hanging an awful long time |
| 00:28.29 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk ok |
| 00:28.35 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk then? |
| 00:28.53 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: that'll tell it how to reach the internet, then you do "traceroute -n 4.2.2.2" and see where does it stop |
| 00:28.54 | grendal_prime | ive tried rebooting...its mounting remote file systems...will it eventually time out so i can remove the entry int th fstab? |
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| 00:29.18 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: I'm guessing box1 already has internet so everything is configured correct there... |
| 00:29.24 | abrotman | grendal_prime: ctrl-c won't stop it ? |
| 00:29.28 | nvz | the sound track in this movie rocks though :P |
| 00:29.36 | grendal_prime | thats a good question |
| 00:29.38 | grendal_prime | hold on |
| 00:30.07 | grendal_prime | thanks...thats what i love about this place |
| 00:30.11 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 00:30.20 | beardy | grendal_prime: Perhaps, if not, boot to runlevel 1 and fix your fstab. |
| 00:30.26 | grendal_prime | never crossed my mind to do that.. |
| 00:30.27 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk in box2 traceroute didn't write anything |
| 00:30.39 | grendal_prime | abrotman, that did it...duuuuuuuu |
| 00:30.39 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 00:30.54 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: did you got lines with "1 * * *" etc? |
| 00:30.59 | abrotman | grendal_prime: do i get a prize? |
| 00:31.02 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk yes |
| 00:31.23 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: in box1 do "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" |
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| 00:31.31 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk problem in box1 |
| 00:31.34 | abrotman | oh really .. still going on? |
| 00:31.45 | beardy | !prize abrotman |
| 00:31.58 | Mxyzpltk | it's like the energizer rabbit... |
| 00:32.03 | Tortel | sUp? |
| 00:32.08 | grendal_prime | hell ya... |
| 00:32.10 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk because webmin change box1's settings and *uck my system |
| 00:32.13 | grendal_prime | ill mary your sister for ya |
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| 00:32.20 | abrotman | i got a medal! |
| 00:32.20 | grendal_prime | the ugly one |
| 00:32.26 | abrotman | grendal_prime: she's married .. and not ugly |
| 00:32.27 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: then don't use webmin... |
| 00:32.36 | grendal_prime | Hey ...i offered |
| 00:32.42 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: but that's another story, nothing to do with what you just asked |
| 00:32.43 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk now i don't use webmin |
| 00:32.54 | grendal_prime | its a good thing though cause Im married too and shes a hotty as well |
| 00:32.59 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 00:33.08 | Mxyzpltk | so do as I told you, and everybody else for the last few hours... "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" in box1 |
| 00:33.16 | Mxyzpltk | if you don't it'll never route you |
| 00:33.18 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk i type that |
| 00:33.29 | Mxyzpltk | try again the traceroute in box2 |
| 00:33.32 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk now box2 have internet |
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| 00:33.34 | grendal_prime | hey i got this openvpn and i think its fireing up after the fstab gets run...wich is not going to work for me... |
| 00:33.45 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: there you go then... |
| 00:33.51 | grendal_prime | any recommendation oh how i fire up openvpn first? |
| 00:33.55 | beardy | grendal_prime: And guess what you should try first then.. |
| 00:34.04 | abrotman | grendal_prime: uhm .. change the number on the initscript |
| 00:34.09 | abrotman | on the link |
| 00:34.11 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk thanks a lot.:) |
| 00:34.13 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: edit /etc/network/options to make it permanent (in box1) |
| 00:34.36 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: and /etc/network/interfaces in box2 to add it's gateway |
| 00:34.36 | grendal_prime | ya...in /etc/init.d/ right? |
| 00:34.41 | abrotman | grendal_prime: no |
| 00:34.46 | grendal_prime | hmmm |
| 00:35.07 | abrotman | grendal_prime: in the others .. like /etc/rc2.d/* ..notice they are like S75apache etc? .. change that number |
| 00:35.30 | simonrvn | /etc/network/options is deprecated in sid. it'll hit etch soon if it hasn't already |
| 00:35.44 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk in box1 and box2 are redhat |
| 00:35.49 | grendal_prime | oh ya thanks |
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| 00:36.03 | abrotman | grendal_prime: lower goes sooner |
| 00:36.13 | grendal_prime | ahhh |
| 00:36.37 | abrotman | so S25 goes before S87 |
| 00:36.43 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: good thing you didn't say that before, you would've have no help... try #redhat or #fedora for the correct files to add that, next time, this is #debian, for debian help, no more, no less... |
| 00:37.06 | abrotman | wait |
| 00:37.06 | abrotman | wtf |
| 00:37.52 | Mxyzpltk | we need dpkg to take all beer from stew :) |
| 00:37.53 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk i know, but in redhat they are slip |
| 00:37.58 | grendal_prime | hmm opentvpn is 16 portmap is 18 |
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| 00:38.00 | stew | what did i do? |
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| 00:38.04 | grendal_prime | well i wonder what the problem is then |
| 00:38.08 | abrotman | stew: fox is running RH boxen |
| 00:38.10 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: not our fault... |
| 00:38.11 | beardy | Fox_1_: That is irrelevant. |
| 00:38.14 | stew | hah |
| 00:38.26 | abrotman | grendal_prime: might be too close |
| 00:38.30 | grendal_prime | now the user_level_nfs is like 20 |
| 00:38.46 | grendal_prime | should i wedge that in between there... |
| 00:38.47 | OliverSCG | I have problem, XSANE, and GTKAM cannot detect attached device on USB in user mode, but in root it can . So I think I should ADD some user to SOME group or something, but I dont know what GROUP NAEM ti put inti /etc/group ?? |
| 00:39.23 | simonrvn | you don't edit /etc/group directly |
| 00:39.41 | simonrvn | adduser foobar scanner |
| 00:39.43 | grendal_prime | and i got nfs_common fire up at 20 and user_level_nfs at 25 |
| 00:39.49 | abrotman | grendal_prime: or you could make an S19 that sleeps for 10 seconds |
| 00:40.04 | OliverSCG | simonrvn what si foobar ? |
| 00:40.12 | simonrvn | OliverSCG: your user name |
| 00:40.15 | abrotman | !foobar |
| 00:40.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, foobar is a term very generally used name for absolutely anything, esp. programs, files, functions, and such. See foo and bar. It has a complex relation to another term called "fubar." For more info, see "mantra.". FTP Operation Over Big Address Records RFC1639 |
| 00:40.24 | OliverSCG | o right... :) |
| 00:40.32 | Mxyzpltk | Fox_1_: red hat has it's own channels for support, if all the ones that are free, and you enjoy free help, you might want to try another distro, but if you don't you must stick to redhat's ways, time ppl spend here helping is not free for them, so pls don't use it so freely, they deserve some respect |
| 00:40.54 | grendal_prime | ok now...lets see...openvpn is connecting...portmap is then trying to mount an nfs system...but...nfs is not started yet |
| 00:40.55 | OliverSCG | Yes, I added like you say 15 minutes ago and wont detect |
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| 00:41.01 | Mxyzpltk | s/if all the ones that are free/if all the ones that are free suck |
| 00:41.05 | grendal_prime | is that why its hanging? would make sense? |
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| 00:41.38 | Fox_1_ | Mxyzpltk no i use debian, but my friend ask me to help with him redhat server. |
| 00:42.06 | simonrvn | OliverSCG: you need to log out completely an log back in |
| 00:42.14 | grendal_prime | i could set portmap to 26 maybe? |
| 00:42.20 | grendal_prime | i just rename it right? |
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| 00:42.33 | Mxyzpltk | still... not our fault... I know it might not seem nice, but is the way it is, it's all about respect for the ppl who spend time trying to help... |
| 00:42.35 | abrotman | sure .. move them all around .. why not |
| 00:42.44 | abrotman | !they don't know |
| 00:42.44 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 00:42.45 | OliverSCG | simonrvn I done that, but same thing again |
| 00:42.48 | waterski1 | exit |
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| 00:43.17 | be0wulf__ | is there sth like apache-php-mysql installation? |
| 00:43.26 | jeff01 | i recently upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6, and now eth0 wont work |
| 00:43.56 | jeff01 | a friend of mine said that i had to load the modules in, but im a bit of a newbie and didnt know what this emant |
| 00:44.09 | dvs | jeff01: What network card? |
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| 00:44.51 | jeff01 | dvs: a D-Link Card |
| 00:45.02 | dvs | jeff01: Model number please |
| 00:45.02 | jeff01 | dvs: VT86C100A to be exact |
| 00:45.21 | dvs | jeff01: I'm not sure what module that is. |
| 00:45.44 | jeff01 | dvs: whoops, sorry |
| 00:45.49 | abrotman | dmesg | grep -i eth |
| 00:45.56 | jeff01 | dvs: DFE-530TX |
| 00:46.06 | abrotman | pcmcia card ? |
| 00:46.09 | dvs | jeff01: I know that's a via-rhine |
| 00:46.28 | jeff01 | dvs: yea |
| 00:46.33 | jeff01 | abrotman: no |
| 00:46.38 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:46.56 | abrotman | wait .. not like that! |
| 00:47.13 | abrotman | i have to practice bobbing for apples! |
| 00:47.58 | jeff01 | abrotman: go for the stem |
| 00:48.14 | dvs | jeff01: modprobe via-rhine |
| 00:48.23 | abrotman | it's actually been a long time since i was bobbing for apples |
| 00:48.48 | OliverSCG | I have problem, XSANE, and GTKAM cannot detect attached device on USB in user mode, but in root it can . So I think I should ADD some user to SOME group or something, but I dont know what GROUP NAME to put into /etc/group ?? I allready put scanner and cammera as a group name and add user to it , but devices is stil undetecteble under user (root works) ? |
| 00:49.02 | jeff01 | dvs: no response is good respone, rigfht |
| 00:49.07 | abrotman | corret |
| 00:49.07 | dvs | jeff01: Rigth |
| 00:49.09 | dvs | Right |
| 00:49.11 | abrotman | corret |
| 00:49.12 | abrotman | ffs |
| 00:49.19 | dvs | abrotman: carat? |
| 00:49.28 | abrotman | correct!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:49.37 | dvs | !beer abrotman |
| 00:49.44 | Fox_1_ | which configurator are better? (like webmin) |
| 00:49.45 | abrotman | !nap abrotman |
| 00:49.53 | abrotman | Fox_1_: for RH .. no idea |
| 00:49.56 | be0wulf__ | woher krieg ich libxm12? |
| 00:49.59 | Shadda | hey |
| 00:50.02 | Shadda | I've got a weird problem |
| 00:50.03 | abrotman | !de |
| 00:50.03 | dpkg | de is, like, deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 00:50.08 | Om | If I have a .deb package how can I alter it's version number? Or isn't it possible? |
| 00:50.16 | abrotman | why would you want to ? |
| 00:50.21 | dvs | Om: Not possible |
| 00:50.25 | Shadda | I upgraded to apache2 last night, and that upgraded libphp5 and such |
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| 00:50.29 | jeff01 | dvs: do i need to make an entry to boot via-rhine? |
| 00:50.32 | abrotman | dvs: is possible :) |
| 00:50.32 | Shadda | thing is, I can't get php5-curl to work anymore |
| 00:50.38 | dvs | jeff01: In the /etc/modules file |
| 00:50.38 | Shadda | It doesn't show up under compiled modules |
| 00:50.39 | Om | Oh well, thanks. |
| 00:50.41 | Fox_1_ | no for debian |
| 00:50.41 | abrotman | php5 not in debian |
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| 00:50.50 | Shadda | packages.dotdeb.org |
| 00:50.51 | beardy | abrotman: But note recommendable. |
| 00:50.53 | abrotman | use vi to configurate your box |
| 00:50.53 | beardy | -e |
| 00:51.05 | abrotman | -2.7315 ? |
| 00:51.08 | abrotman | wait .. wrongnumber |
| 00:51.10 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 00:51.17 | abrotman | !e |
| 00:51.17 | dpkg | i heard e is from memory, e is a silly bulky, overdone wm, or still the best looking window manager around. and smaller than windowmaker in memory, or of course, smaller than windowmaker isn't saying much. see sawfish. see MDMA, or 2.7182818284590452353602874713526625, or kicks ass, or a very versatile window manager, or *utter* shite |
| 00:51.22 | jeff01 | dvs: im getting better. soon i wont need to come here for help! |
| 00:51.24 | Shadda | I'm just wondering why the hell php5-curl would stop working... |
| 00:51.24 | abrotman | i was close-ish |
| 00:51.42 | Fox_1_ | abrotman for debian which one? |
| 00:51.51 | beardy | or a letter used when writing |
| 00:52.01 | abrotman | Fox_1_: vi |
| 00:52.11 | abrotman | e is a silly bulky, overdone wm .. that's funny |
| 00:52.31 | Fox_1_ | abrotman i mean with GUI |
| 00:52.33 | linuxguy | hey anyone can help with with windows me? |
| 00:52.46 | jeff01 | dvs: no luck... |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | Fox_1_: vi |
| 00:52.48 | dvs | !pal linuxguy |
| 00:53.02 | dvs | jeff01: What happened? |
| 00:53.06 | abrotman | WinME can't be helped |
| 00:53.08 | linuxguy | just kiiiiiiiddin |
| 00:53.09 | linuxguy | :( |
| 00:53.10 | linuxguy | """": |
| 00:53.12 | linuxguy | 0 |
| 00:53.14 | linuxguy | :)_ |
| 00:53.19 | be0wulf__ | ah found sth |
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| 00:53.35 | beardy | linuxguy: Couldn't you've done that faster? |
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| 00:53.41 | abrotman | liable: so you think debian is good for super-H ? |
| 00:53.41 | Fox_1_ | abrotman when i say webmin you say something, but i don't remember the name |
| 00:53.59 | Fox_1_ | abrotman something like gr |
| 00:54.01 | Fox_1_ | ... |
| 00:54.08 | abrotman | Fox_1_: bad crap horrible deathtrap secuityhole |
| 00:54.12 | abrotman | one of those ? |
| 00:54.19 | jeff01 | dvs: any other ideas? |
| 00:54.32 | dvs | jeff01: Why didn't it work? |
| 00:54.37 | lyy | what do you normally do to stop a srevice from starting up? i remember something about playing with files in the /etc/init.d or /etc/rc#.d files..can someone help me? for example, i want to stop sendmail from starting up and have postfix start up in its place |
| 00:54.38 | beardy | Fox_1_: Start learning to configure things. |
| 00:54.39 | be0wulf__ | why is php5.0 not recomended? |
| 00:54.41 | Fox_1_ | abrotman it's for just configure |
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| 00:54.51 | jeff01 | dvs: i just get the same error messages |
| 00:54.59 | Fox_1_ | abrotman after that i'll uninstall that |
| 00:55.10 | dvs | jeff01: Did you restart the network? /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 00:55.24 | jeff01 | dvs: i rebooted the machine |
| 00:55.37 | Fox_1_ | ok bye all |
| 00:55.37 | abrotman | Fox_1_: i use vi |
| 00:55.41 | Fox_1_ | ok |
| 00:55.46 | abrotman | i'm really not joking |
| 00:55.52 | abrotman | actually .. nvi :) |
| 00:55.53 | beardy | !tell lyy about update-rc.d |
| 00:56.10 | maher | abrotman: everyone knows youreally use vi mode in emacs |
| 00:56.13 | dvs | jeff01: Do you have any other network cards? |
| 00:56.22 | abrotman | maher: :r bloat :) |
| 00:56.23 | liable | abrotman: what? |
| 00:56.27 | jeff01 | no |
| 00:56.37 | beardy | !tell lyy about rcconf |
| 00:56.42 | abrotman | liable: sorry .. it was a joke .. i just wanted to get your attention because i love you :) |
| 00:56.44 | dvs | jeff01: Did you set up your /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 00:57.30 | jeff01 | dvs: to the best of my knowledge, they are set right |
| 00:57.36 | jeff01 | it* |
| 00:58.16 | Tortel | !tell me about life |
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| 00:58.52 | dvs | jeff01: What does "ifconfig" say? |
| 00:59.05 | liable | whats wrong with this? for img in *.jpg; do convert -sample 300x199 thumb-$img $img; done |
| 00:59.42 | jeff01 | dvs: like the defaults |
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| 00:59.50 | jeff01 | dvs: hold on lemme type em out |
| 01:00.14 | dvs | jeff01: use paster |
| 01:00.16 | Om | What am I doing wrong here? Trying to compile a source package from sid to run on my etch machine. apt-get's manpage says I can follow the package name with a slash and a distro name, but it doesn't seem to work. fakeroot apt-get -b source libdbd-sqlite3-perl/ unstable |
| 01:00.16 | dvs | !paster |
| 01:00.16 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 01:00.58 | Om | I have a deb-src line in sources.list for unstable |
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| 01:01.06 | jeff01 | dvs: i forget the addres |
| 01:01.20 | dvs | jeff01: Look a few lines back |
| 01:01.24 | jeff01 | dvs: www.pasteboard.com? |
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| 01:01.51 | Sepho | hi all! |
| 01:01.52 | Tortel | !tell me about sex |
| 01:01.57 | dvs | ha! |
| 01:02.03 | Sepho | i need some help... |
| 01:02.14 | Tortel | loL |
| 01:02.14 | beardy | Tortel: /msg dpkg foo |
| 01:02.18 | nog | i know this would be considered totally off subject |
| 01:02.23 | Tortel | telling yourself: updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 01:02.28 | nog | but does anyone here have any experience with lua? |
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| 01:02.55 | beardy | !ask |
| 01:02.55 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 01:02.59 | Sepho | I want to install a web server that uses php, apache, and mysql, but I installed php4, mysql-server and apache2 but when I try to view php pages don't work... What other package I have to install??? |
| 01:03.11 | jeff01 | dvs: never seen that, thats pretty tight |
| 01:03.40 | nog | www.lua.org |
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| 01:04.59 | Tortel | gah |
| 01:05.06 | Tortel | !tell me about homecoming |
| 01:05.10 | Tortel | please? |
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| 01:05.15 | Tortel | :( |
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| 01:05.29 | gravity | Tortel: /msg dpkg foo please |
| 01:05.36 | Tortel | i know |
| 01:05.41 | Tortel | wouldent respond |
| 01:05.48 | beardy | Tortel: Then why aren't you doing it. |
| 01:05.56 | nvz | Tortel: because you are asking about stupid shit that it doesnt know |
| 01:06.42 | jeff01 | dvs: http://channels.debian.net/paste/842 |
| 01:07.01 | Tortel | :( |
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| 01:08.34 | dvs | jeff01: That's only the loopback device. Does "lsmod | grep via-rhine" print anything? |
| 01:08.52 | jeff01 | no |
| 01:09.17 | Huston | I am having a problem with sharing my printer. I usually just modify the smb.conf file and share it, at least I think that is all I do, but I am not having any luck with it this time |
| 01:09.28 | dvs | jeff01: The via-rhine module isn't loaded. Are you sure you have the line "via-rhine" in your /etc/modules file? |
| 01:09.30 | Huston | Is there a really simple walkthrough for it? |
| 01:09.37 | Huston | for total newbies |
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| 01:10.14 | jeff01 | dvs: yea, right below psmouse |
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| 01:10.49 | Covener | Huston: you may want to look at sharing it via cups IPP instead of samba |
| 01:10.58 | dvs | jeff01: What does "modprobe via-rhine; lsmod | grep via-rhine" say? |
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| 01:11.14 | be0wulf__ | it's somehow impossible to get php5.0 working |
| 01:11.24 | jeff01 | dvs: nothing |
| 01:11.44 | dvs | jeff01: The module isn't loading then. |
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| 01:13.18 | Huston | alright I am looking up how to do that |
| 01:13.21 | dvs | jeff01: What does "modprobe 8139too; lsmod | grep 8139too" say? |
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| 01:13.29 | Huston | I will see if I can figure that out |
| 01:13.43 | Boukensya | hey guys. I am working on a linux box. There is a website on it, and I am trying to track down where it is stored. How do I do this? |
| 01:14.43 | gameman73 | Boukensya: its probebly in /var/www if you havent looked there already |
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| 01:15.06 | Boukensya | well this box hosts heaps of websites |
| 01:15.09 | gameman73 | ah |
| 01:15.11 | Boukensya | and I am trying to find just one |
| 01:15.28 | jeff01 | dvs: http://channels.debian.net/paste/843 |
| 01:15.29 | gameman73 | find a unique filename on the site (like an image or something) |
| 01:15.30 | Boukensya | is there like a config file or something? I did a locate for the domain, but it wasn't on there |
| 01:15.41 | gameman73 | apache? |
| 01:15.51 | xixor | Boukensya, : if you know some sort of name it is under, try cd /var/www; ls -R | grep name |
| 01:15.54 | dvs | jeff01: Bingo! I was wrong. |
| 01:16.07 | dvs | jeff01: Replace "via-rhine" with "8139too" in the /etc/modules file |
| 01:16.20 | liable | i am not mad, i just want to you to really make an effort in trying to find stuff out for yourself. |
| 01:16.26 | Boukensya | only one, in /usr/share/apache/icons/jhe061.gif |
| 01:16.47 | Boukensya | but that doesn't seem to be it? |
| 01:16.52 | dvs | jeff01: I'm guessing you have "rtl8139" in your /etc/modules file. Get rid of that if it's there. |
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| 01:17.31 | jeff01 | dvs: no i didnt |
| 01:17.32 | Boukensya | yeah apache |
| 01:17.49 | gameman73 | check the config file, theres probebly something in there |
| 01:17.56 | Boukensya | xixor: don't know a name |
| 01:17.59 | dvs | jeff01: That's alright. Just do "/etc/init.d/networking restart" and it should work now. |
| 01:18.14 | xixor | Boukensya, : do you know the content of the website? like a keyword, phrase, authors email, etc? |
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| 01:18.33 | xixor | Boukensya, : if you do, you could try cd /var/www; grep author@domain.com -r * or something similar |
| 01:18.46 | Boukensya | xixor yeah its at http://www.littleprints.com.au/ |
| 01:18.50 | Boukensya | just the default apache page |
| 01:19.16 | xixor | Boukensya, : you could probably look in /etc/httpd.conf (I think that is the apache config file) and see where the alias is for that address, it should say which directory the files are in |
| 01:19.26 | jeff01 | dvs: no luck |
| 01:19.45 | dvs | jeff01: Then the /etc/network/interfaces file is not setup right |
| 01:19.54 | gameman73 | i think the file is actually /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 01:20.00 | jeff01 | dvs: what should it look like |
| 01:20.15 | dvs | jeff01: It depends on your network setup |
| 01:20.30 | dvs | jeff01: Static IP vs. DHCP for example |
| 01:20.37 | xixor | Boukensya, : or else you could searching for littleprints in all the *.html files in /var/www...not sure the grep syntax for that though |
| 01:21.00 | jeff01 | dvs: dhcp |
| 01:21.15 | jeff01 | #primary |
| 01:21.20 | jeff01 | auto eth0 |
| 01:21.24 | Guerin | rgrep littleprints /var/www |
| 01:21.29 | jeff01 | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 01:21.34 | dvs | jeff01: Dont paste here |
| 01:21.34 | xixor | Boukensya, : do what Guerin said :) |
| 01:21.40 | dvs | jeff01: Use the paster |
| 01:21.41 | xixor | Guerin, : I am going to have to remember that |
| 01:21.42 | Guerin | !paster jeff01 |
| 01:21.43 | dpkg | jeff01: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 01:22.36 | jeff01 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/845 |
| 01:22.54 | Boukensya | okay I found something that will help from another linux box (dns server) it is just being pointed to there via the dns servers. So no website created yet.. how would I create this? |
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| 01:23.29 | dvs | !find dhclient |
| 01:23.36 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'dhclient' (5 of 11): (/etc/rootstrap/dhclient-script) in utils/rootstrap ;; (/etc/dhclient-exit-hooks) in misc/debian-edu-config ;; (/sbin/dhclient) in net/dhcp-client,net/dhcp3-client ;; (/etc/{dhclient-script|dhclient.conf}) in net/dhcp-client ;; (/usr/share/doc/ipmasq/examples/dhclient-exit-hooks) in net/ipmasq. |
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| 01:24.11 | dvs | !info dhcp3-client sarge |
| 01:24.13 | dpkg | dhcp3-client: (DHCP Client), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.1-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 405 kB, Installed size: 765 kB |
| 01:24.32 | dvs | jeff01: Do "apt-get install dhcp3-client" |
| 01:24.39 | cio | Hi all. I moved a dhcp3-server from one box to another and for some reason it won't hand out IP addresses and there isn't anything in the syslog except the normal startup messages. Any suggestions? |
| 01:25.31 | cio | Does dhcp3-server log somewhere else besides syslog possibly? |
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| 01:26.23 | Boukensya | just a vhost (: |
| 01:27.29 | pureone | maybe deamon.log |
| 01:28.26 | cio | Nothing there either... .. hrm... |
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| 01:30.18 | Kovecses | anyone use rox-filer? |
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| 01:30.58 | just1primate | !info shrinkingman |
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| 01:31.17 | cio | Weird.. I just ran it normally, it's running, I have several devices begging for an ip address ... nothing.. |
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| 01:32.00 | jeff01 | dvs: no luck |
| 01:32.11 | dvs | jeff01: I don't know then |
| 01:32.42 | Coweater | Kovecses: no, ask a real question |
| 01:33.08 | Kovecses | Coweater, well im having a prob with it so i was wondering if anyone is even using it |
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| 01:33.17 | Coweater | so ask the real question already |
| 01:33.32 | Coweater | surveys don't fix problems |
| 01:33.38 | cio | heh |
| 01:33.43 | Kovecses | Coweater, naw im getting help in #fluxbox |
| 01:33.58 | cio | Kovecses: These guys get all bent out of shape if you 'ask to ask'. Just throw it out there and see if you get a response. |
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| 01:34.27 | Kovecses | EVERYBODY in here is bent out of shape about EVERYTHING |
| 01:34.40 | Kovecses | its cuz there all losers who never get laid |
| 01:35.05 | gameman73 | Kovecses, criticizing everyone is going to get you nowhere |
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| 01:35.50 | Kovecses | gameman73, oh i know.......tell that to some others in here |
| 01:36.06 | Coweater | you're the only one insulting people |
| 01:36.09 | cio | heh |
| 01:36.23 | maher | Kovecses: you they're not there |
| 01:36.29 | maher | Kovecses: you mean they're not there |
| 01:37.18 | Kovecses | yeah good point |
| 01:37.28 | liable | hrm, imagemagick didnt do a very nice job of resizing my photo's |
| 01:37.47 | aurax | is there a good guide about building fax servers? |
| 01:37.50 | aurax | with email routing |
| 01:38.41 | Guerin | !fuck Kovecses |
| 01:38.51 | Guerin | Kovecses: there you go ... at least YOU get laid |
| 01:38.58 | Guerin | once |
| 01:39.00 | Guerin | by a bot |
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| 01:39.17 | Kovecses | !fuck Guerin |
| 01:39.21 | aurax | haah |
| 01:39.24 | aurax | should i say, pwnd? |
| 01:39.36 | aurax | twice aww! |
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| 01:39.47 | Guerin | ooh, monkey see, monkey do |
| 01:39.50 | sorcre | Heh, not the first messege I like to see. |
| 01:40.05 | dvs | Sea-doo? |
| 01:40.08 | cio | heh.. you know that dhcpd3 problem I was having? |
| 01:40.22 | liable | anything else for batch resizing jpegs? |
| 01:40.24 | Kovecses | nerds |
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| 01:40.34 | aurax | cio |
| 01:40.34 | cio | Kovecses: Eh? |
| 01:40.36 | aurax | u sure it listens |
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| 01:40.39 | aurax | on the right interface? |
| 01:40.58 | cio | I didn't have my mini-hub plugged in to the network.. My test equipment was on the mini hub.. heh |
| 01:41.43 | sorcre | Does debian benefit at all from Dual core processors? |
| 01:41.57 | aurax | better be |
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| 01:42.48 | shimano55 | Question, Is there a way I can download an init.d script to start apache?? |
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| 01:43.16 | maher | shimano55: the apache deb provides such an init script |
| 01:43.21 | dvs | shimano55: There already is one |
| 01:43.27 | shimano55 | maher, but I installed from source |
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| 01:43.34 | akusarujin | does "unknown" status have any significance in dpkg -l? i.e. is the package partially installed or something? |
| 01:43.53 | maher | shimano55: the source probably has one too |
| 01:43.53 | shimano55 | maher, dvs: Deb didn't have the latest version...and I like source better |
| 01:44.12 | shimano55 | maher: and i'd just need to place it in init.d? |
| 01:44.15 | maher | shimano55: do you like having an init script? |
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| 01:44.56 | shimano55 | maher, I find it easier than having to run the command every time I start-up |
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| 01:45.33 | maher | shimano55: i was making a stupid point about the fact that debs are in some ways more convenient - never mind... |
| 01:46.04 | shimano55 | maher, its true....but It was not an option |
| 01:46.07 | stew | akusarujin: dpkg -l doesn't have any unknown status |
| 01:46.21 | Xenguy | shimano55: you'll need to use 'update-rc.d' to create symlinks also, if you drop a script into /etc/init.d |
| 01:46.43 | shimano55 | Xenguy, It looks as if the source doesn't have one... |
| 01:46.58 | akusarujin | stew: eh, well it says "un"? |
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| 01:47.24 | Xenguy | shimano55: I expect you could download the .deb from packages.debian.org, then extract the file you want with 'ar', etc. |
| 01:47.54 | stew | akusarujin: read the legend at the top again. in that case 'n' is the stats and it stands for "Not Installed" |
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| 01:48.01 | shimano55 | Xenguy, I may have found something...but how would i tell if its an init.d script? |
| 01:48.02 | stew | ^stats^status |
| 01:48.12 | akusarujin | stew: and u is ...? |
| 01:48.20 | dvs | !u |
| 01:48.21 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:48.21 | stew | akusarujin: unknown desired status |
| 01:48.33 | aurax | is there a good guide about building fax servers? |
| 01:48.34 | Xenguy | shimano55: for one thing, it will likely look similar to /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 01:48.46 | stew | dvs: that was completely unnecessary |
| 01:48.48 | akusarujin | dvs: how about, no. i'm referring to a goddamn status. |
| 01:49.09 | akusarujin | not even status, "desired" information, i guess. |
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| 01:49.13 | dvs | :-P |
| 01:49.26 | akusarujin | stew: "desired" being if it's required as a dependency or something, stew? |
| 01:49.34 | bsims | apt bugs down? |
| 01:49.37 | Azar | dvs u slapped me once for something as well |
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| 01:50.10 | shimano55 | Xenguy, so could I just change the vars in skeleton? |
| 01:50.14 | shimano55 | and make it work for me? |
| 01:50.22 | bsims | is the BTS down? apt-listbugs isn't working... |
| 01:50.43 | stew | akusarujin: actually i'm not sure what unknown means, not dependency though |
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| 01:51.19 | akusarujin | stew: i just find it weird that there are a few kernel related packages marked "un" in dpkg -l, after i've purged and such.. |
| 01:51.24 | Xenguy | shimano55: I think you're asking if you could write you own; if so, then 'yes' is the answer, but copying the ready-made one sounds easier to me ;-) |
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| 01:52.17 | Xenguy | shimano55: (and safer really) |
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| 01:52.47 | Azar | new bsdutils, util-linux mount and python2 :) |
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| 01:52.58 | c_olin | is java runtime evironment available through apt? |
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| 01:53.06 | Xenguy | !java |
| 01:53.06 | dpkg | it has been said that java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 01:53.30 | HowardTheCoward | consider using python instead java :) |
| 01:53.38 | stew | akusarujin: hmm, i'm searching and none of my machines have anything reporting "un" |
| 01:53.39 | Xenguy | :-) |
| 01:53.43 | c_olin | i need it for eclipse :( |
| 01:54.08 | akusarujin | stew: i've never noticed it before either :/ |
| 01:54.10 | dvs | !tell c_olin -about install java |
| 01:54.24 | akusarujin | stew: it happened after i installed/purged some kernel packages |
| 01:54.33 | shimano55 | Xenguy, but it doesn't look anything like the skeleton |
| 01:54.33 | Azar | hmm I do not understand "groups", I assume there are auto-created: for sound, games etc.. I have no groups |
| 01:55.13 | Azar | how groups get created? |
| 01:55.15 | arrummzen | What is the package for the X org server called in debian? |
| 01:55.17 | dvs | Azar: ??? |
| 01:55.18 | stew | akusarujin: i've certainly removed kernel packages on this machine before |
| 01:55.20 | shimano55 | Xenguy, Do you have MSN or something so that I can paste? |
| 01:55.24 | stew | arrummzen: xserver-xorg |
| 01:55.31 | dvs | Azar: I find it hard to believe that you have no groups |
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| 01:55.43 | Xenguy | shimano55: if you built from source the Debian way, then I don't see why you aren't already set to go <shrug> |
| 01:55.49 | Azar | dvs in root there is only "root", in user there is only "azar" |
| 01:55.55 | Xenguy | shimano55: paste in #flood if you want |
| 01:56.02 | akusarujin | stew: have anything like "pn"? |
| 01:56.06 | dvs | Azar: That's what I'd expect in a new install |
| 01:56.12 | arrummzen | ok, apt-get install can't find it, I have a working network connection. Do I need to configure apt-get to use the netwrok to install the package? |
| 01:56.24 | bsims | arrummzen: yeah |
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| 01:56.27 | Azar | dvs, that's all I have, I installed 4 months ago |
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| 01:56.35 | bsims | check /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 01:56.45 | gravity | arrummzen: Try x-window-system |
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| 01:56.52 | dvs | Azar: don't tell me you change permissions of files and devices to get access to them |
| 01:57.04 | Azar | dvs, no I do not |
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| 01:57.06 | c_olin | and is eclipse available through apt? i tried apt-cache search but found nothing |
| 01:57.13 | arrummzen | gravity, yea, it found that one. |
| 01:57.17 | stew | akusarujin: no, only i r h in first column |
| 01:57.19 | gravity | arrummzen: That'll do it |
| 01:57.21 | dvs | Azar: then how do you get access to them without adding groups to your user? |
| 01:57.23 | Azar | so how groups popup? only when say you install a player? |
| 01:57.25 | gravity | arrummzen: It'll pull in the xserver and the other things you want |
| 01:57.43 | akusarujin | stew: that's strange, i seem to get 'pn' when the package has been purged |
| 01:57.57 | Azar | dvs, um I never tried to access stuff, was just looking around to see what groups are there |
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| 01:58.06 | arrummzen | Can I use apt-get to install closed source software (like the nvidia and ATI video drivers)? |
| 01:58.07 | stew | gravity: any idea what a u in the first column of dpkg -l output means? |
| 01:58.23 | stew | gravity: beyond, "unkown" |
| 01:58.26 | dvs | Azar: Not even listen to audio? |
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| 01:58.51 | asg | stew: unpacked? |
| 01:58.52 | gravity | stew: Nope. Set to be uninstalled? |
| 01:58.54 | Azar | hmm strange, I just added "azar" to cdrom and it says "done" but when I do a "groups" command, I never see a cdrom group |
| 01:59.07 | dvs | Azar: log out and in again |
| 01:59.08 | stew | the legend actually says Unkown |
| 01:59.18 | stew | (except they spelled it correctly) |
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| 01:59.31 | asg | stew: | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed (on sid at least) |
| 01:59.43 | stew | asg: no, first column, not second |
| 02:00.02 | asg | stew: gah, my mistake. My apologies |
| 02:00.52 | asg | stew: at least the spelling mistake is fixed in sid |
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| 02:00.55 | Azar | :) I see, thanks dvs, so I have to add user to a group in order to see that group |
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| 02:01.15 | darkcmd | can you print to a shared windows printer through cups |
| 02:01.33 | dvs | Azar: "groups" only shows your groups. /etc/group has all the groups available. |
| 02:01.59 | weasel | getent group <yourusername> to me more general |
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| 02:02.14 | Azar | thanks dvs :) |
| 02:02.33 | dvs | Azar: No prob. |
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| 02:02.59 | arrummzen | umm... why did apt-get install the xfree86 server and not the Xorg server? |
| 02:03.10 | arrummzen | isn't the xfree86 server a bit old? |
| 02:03.31 | weasel | sarge shipped with xfree86. |
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| 02:03.55 | Azar | dvs what for could be www-data group? |
| 02:04.00 | gravity | arrummzen: If it works for you, why worry about it? |
| 02:04.00 | Sepho | how can I use apache2 with php4?? I've installed it but they don't work, apache2 runs but don't open php pages |
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| 02:04.12 | arrummzen | gravity, im not sure it will work. |
| 02:04.21 | weasel | Sepho: what did you install? |
| 02:04.23 | gravity | arrummzen: Try it. If need be, there's an xorg backport to sarge. |
| 02:04.33 | stew | arrummzen: its not old, you should be running a version that is only 2 weeks old or so |
| 02:04.40 | gravity | heh |
| 02:04.47 | gravity | Don't remind me |
| 02:04.48 | weasel | hah |
| 02:04.53 | Sepho | [weasel] apache2, php4, php4-cgi, php4-mysql, php4-gd, mysql-server and all of they dependences |
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| 02:04.56 | arrummzen | can I use apt-get to install the closed soruce ATI drivers? |
| 02:05.08 | gravity | arrummzen: No |
| 02:05.08 | stew | arrummzen: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 02:05.13 | weasel | Sepho: do apt-cache search apache2 php4 |
| 02:05.16 | gravity | Or maybe. Not from Debian. |
| 02:05.28 | Sepho | [weasel] but they are installed |
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| 02:05.37 | weasel | Sepho: Tue 04:05:13 <weasel> Sepho: do apt-cache search apache2 php4 |
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| 02:05.55 | arrummzen | gravity, why is that? |
| 02:06.03 | gravity | arrummzen: Proprietary drivers |
| 02:06.05 | stew | gravity is the lover of closed source drivers |
| 02:06.13 | gravity | I <3 pain |
| 02:06.14 | asg | hah |
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| 02:06.22 | akusarujin | brb |
| 02:06.29 | weasel | Sepho: and btw: pronouns bad. |
| 02:06.41 | arrummzen | gravity, 99& of my X problems are not caused by drivers =) |
| 02:06.41 | weasel | Sepho: 'it', 'they' etc should be avoided when you don't say what it and they means. |
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| 02:06.56 | gravity | arrummzen: 99% of my problems with it are caused by other people's closed source drivers. Go figure. |
| 02:06.57 | arrummzen | Usually its the networking the messes up my X server |
| 02:06.58 | Sepho | sorry, i'm spanis student |
| 02:07.02 | Sepho | spanish* |
| 02:07.03 | Azar | beware of newer DRM tainted hardware, I have no idea how Debian would install or even work on |
| 02:07.21 | gravity | arrummzen: How does networking mess up your X server? |
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| 02:08.08 | arrummzen | gravity, I use a distributed OpenGL rendering system, poorly optimized networking slows down the transfer of vertex, and texture buffers from host to host. |
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| 02:08.20 | poonj | hey guys |
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| 02:08.39 | gravity | arrummzen: What's the app that does it? Another closed source one? |
| 02:08.41 | poonj | what is the program name that tells me the signal information for my wireless link? |
| 02:08.49 | asg | poonj: wavemon |
| 02:08.52 | poonj | here we go |
| 02:08.52 | poonj | thanks |
| 02:08.54 | arrummzen | gravity, no its called Chromium (its open source). |
| 02:08.57 | gravity | Ah |
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| 02:09.00 | gravity | I've heard of it |
| 02:09.09 | arrummzen | In fact, I have to install it via cvs. |
| 02:09.11 | gravity | arrummzen: Are you using ssh with gzip compression? |
| 02:09.17 | shimano55 | Question, Is it safe to install RedHat RPMs on Debian? |
| 02:09.20 | gravity | arrummzen: That tends to speed network transfers very well |
| 02:09.29 | gravity | shimano55: Sorta kinda but not smart |
| 02:09.31 | arrummzen | gravity, no, wouldn't that put a lot of load on the CPU? |
| 02:09.51 | gravity | arrummzen: I don't know. It depends on how intense your CPU is working relative to the network speeds |
| 02:10.13 | Xenguy_ | shimano55: It's generally unnecessary, and a bad idea (is this still apache you want to install?) |
| 02:10.17 | arrummzen | 100 Mb/S network. |
| 02:10.36 | gravity | arrummzen: Hrm, then maybe not. It's worth a try though. For general use, it performs much better than plain X. |
| 02:10.42 | arrummzen | The CPU is usualy under high load doing the physics calculations. |
| 02:10.46 | gravity | arrummzen: There's a few other solutions out there too that I'm not as aware of |
| 02:10.51 | gravity | Gotcha |
| 02:11.37 | gravity | arrummzen: To be honest, I don't know how much of that is X's fault versus GL type things. A lot of work has gone in to speeding up X over the network, but it's more for core operations rather than transfering 3d info |
| 02:11.55 | shimano55 | Xenguy_, no...this would be MySQL |
| 02:11.59 | gravity | Fonts and bitmap transfers and so on |
| 02:12.10 | shimano55 | gravity, Xenguy_: how about binaries??? |
| 02:12.11 | weasel | Sepho: so, did you run the command? |
| 02:12.31 | gravity | shimano55: Same answer. It can be done, but it's not in your best interest unless you can't avoid it |
| 02:12.35 | Xenguy | shimano55: why don't you just apt-get this stuff? |
| 02:12.56 | gravity | shimano55: If a Debian package exists, it's always the better choice |
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| 02:13.17 | shimano55 | Xenguy, because they don't have mysql for php5 |
| 02:13.34 | Xenguy | shimano55: ahh |
| 02:13.42 | shimano55 | xenguy, infact the licensing issues make it so they aren't together anymore |
| 02:13.45 | dondelelcaro | !+info php5-mysql |
| 02:13.51 | dpkg | php5-mysql: (MySQL module for php5), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 104 kB |
| 02:13.56 | shimano55 | i'll just do it from source |
| 02:14.01 | gravity | dondelelcaro: :-) |
| 02:14.13 | shimano55 | I couldn't find that... |
| 02:14.14 | shimano55 | h/o |
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| 02:15.06 | shimano55 | dondelelcaro, apt-cache search php5-mysql returns nothing |
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| 02:15.31 | stew | shimano55: are you running sid? |
| 02:15.37 | dondelelcaro | shimano55: that's great; php5 isn't in stable, and may not be in the version that you're running. If you want to run it, get a backport. |
| 02:15.42 | shimano55 | stew, say what? |
| 02:15.51 | stew | shimano55: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 02:16.10 | shimano55 | stew, I just downloaded it yesterday (31r0a) |
| 02:16.23 | stew | !php5 |
| 02:16.23 | dpkg | php5 is currently only available in unstable. if you require php5 for sarge, first check your head, then ask me about <dotdeb>, however, if you use dotdeb packages you are on your own. |
| 02:16.35 | shimano55 | dondelelcaro, backport? |
| 02:17.01 | shimano55 | stew, dondelelcaro: I already have php5 and apache installed |
| 02:17.05 | shimano55 | its just mysql |
| 02:17.19 | Xenguy | shimano55: http://www.backports.org/ |
| 02:17.24 | shimano55 | im just gonna be do it from source |
| 02:17.26 | shimano55 | i gtg eat |
| 02:17.29 | shimano55 | ill be back |
| 02:18.32 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
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| 02:20.20 | iratsu | can ubuntu packages be used in debian? |
| 02:20.33 | Ronin | iratsu: only if you want to screw up your system |
| 02:20.37 | dondelelcaro | iratsu: possibly, but it's not recommended at all. |
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| 02:20.54 | dondelelcaro | (in general, if you can't tell if it's ok to use them or not, you probably shouldn't) |
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| 02:25.14 | Gnea | if a potato chip apt-get installed a bean dip, would the bag get doused? *THINGS TO PONDER* |
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| 02:25.50 | abrotman | Gnea: that's just silly .. bean dip isn't packaged .. license restrictions |
| 02:26.15 | Gnea | abrotman: so it would likely have to spawn a child to wget it from the store |
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| 02:26.41 | abrotman | Gnea: also .. export restrictions on bean dip are a bear |
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| 02:27.08 | Gnea | but that's a completely separate repository |
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| 02:28.08 | Gnea | abrotman: kinda like how clam dip has a certain shelf-life, so once in awhile i gotta make a pit stop |
| 02:28.10 | abrotman | thank god .. that repository doesn't include experimental |
| 02:28.16 | Gnea | heh |
| 02:29.19 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.31 | Gnea | :D |
| 02:29.48 | abrotman | Dependecy: Pizza |
| 02:30.01 | Gnea | Provides: Gas |
| 02:30.23 | abrotman | Conflicts: Sex |
| 02:30.40 | Gnea | Replaces: Hunger |
| 02:30.56 | abrotman | Recommends: ThePinkStuff |
| 02:31.01 | Tortel | Adds: Gas |
| 02:31.03 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 02:31.04 | Tortel | oops |
| 02:31.06 | Tortel | :( |
| 02:31.15 | Gnea | Segmentation Fault |
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| 02:31.21 | abrotman | we're dorks |
| 02:31.24 | abrotman | sorry .. it's true |
| 02:31.25 | Gnea | awww yeah |
| 02:31.36 | sandman | Yeah, so I still cannot get kernel-2.6.8 to work proper |
| 02:31.46 | sandman | I just get a blank screen @ boot |
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| 02:31.52 | Gnea | sandman: the image or compiled source? |
| 02:31.52 | sandman | X still works, but hte console is totally blank. |
| 02:32.06 | Tortel | goodNIGHT! |
| 02:32.14 | sandman | Gnea: The image created with the config from kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 and make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
| 02:32.51 | sandman | Gnea: So in other words, kernel-image-2.6.8 (compiled) and kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686, though _exactly_ the same config, do not work the same. |
| 02:33.02 | sandman | Both have initrd, too. |
| 02:33.04 | abrotman | sandman: remind me .. why are you compiling your kernel again? |
| 02:33.20 | sandman | Well, first I was doing it to compile in radeonfb support |
| 02:33.24 | abrotman | sandman: and i thought you decided your kernel was missing vesafb.ko |
| 02:33.40 | sandman | Yeah, why is that |
| 02:33.54 | Gnea | sandman: are you savvy with kernel compilation or is this your first (or second) time? |
| 02:34.01 | sandman | Gnea: I'm savvy |
| 02:34.11 | abrotman | sandman: well .. don't you think you need vesafb? |
| 02:34.20 | Gnea | sandman: what happens if you build it standard, without the make-kpkg and without initrd? |
| 02:34.36 | sandman | abrotman: Yes. |
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| 02:34.49 | Gnea | sandman: and just compile the fb stuff into the kernel? |
| 02:34.55 | abrotman | sandman: so it's not there .. and you can't figure out why it doesn't work ? |
| 02:35.12 | sandman | abrotman: I can't figure out why it's not there. |
| 02:35.22 | Gnea | sandman: or did you compile the fb modules and forget to add them to the initrd config? |
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| 02:35.50 | abrotman | Gnea: apparently they are missing from /lib/modules/..... |
| 02:36.10 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 02:36.34 | abrotman | apt-get --reinstall install anchovie ? |
| 02:36.37 | Huston | thanks for the printer setup |
| 02:36.41 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 02:36.42 | Huston | I have one question |
| 02:36.50 | Huston | it prints great |
| 02:36.55 | Gnea | i have one answer |
| 02:37.06 | Huston | hopefully the right one |
| 02:37.08 | sandman | I checked into /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf and the modules file next to it.. but the modules in that file != the problem |
| 02:37.12 | abrotman | he never has the right one |
| 02:37.22 | Huston | my windows 2000 machine still shows the old cups jobs |
| 02:37.26 | abrotman | sandman: dude .. the stuff you need IS NOT being built .. |
| 02:37.30 | Huston | is that a question for here? |
| 02:37.51 | Gnea | Huston: what about cups? does cups still think the jobs are queued? |
| 02:37.59 | Huston | it shows two jobs in the queue on my debian server |
| 02:38.05 | Huston | no debian does not |
| 02:38.18 | Huston | cups doesn't |
| 02:38.28 | Gnea | are you running a firewall on the debian side? |
| 02:38.33 | Huston | no |
| 02:38.53 | Gnea | how is win2k interfacing with the network printer? |
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| 02:39.02 | Huston | through http |
| 02:39.10 | Gnea | pardon? |
| 02:39.20 | abrotman | carefully? |
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| 02:39.45 | Huston | it is using http://servername:631/printers/printer name |
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| 02:40.01 | Gnea | oooh nonononono |
| 02:40.21 | Huston | okay what did I do wrong |
| 02:40.27 | Gnea | Huston: are you trying to do this through windows network neighborhood? |
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| 02:40.40 | Gnea | where you "add network printer" dialog? |
| 02:40.41 | Huston | no I did it through add printers |
| 02:41.03 | Huston | network printer |
| 02:41.09 | Huston | and added that address |
| 02:41.12 | Gnea | is samba installed? |
| 02:41.16 | Huston | yep |
| 02:41.30 | Gnea | and it's configured with /home/smbprint and all that? |
| 02:41.57 | Huston | I will have to look and see about that |
| 02:42.05 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:43.16 | Huston | I don't think so |
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| 02:43.26 | TeraByteS_ | ae |
| 02:43.29 | Huston | I am new to this |
| 02:43.31 | Gnea | then you should get that setup |
| 02:43.34 | Gnea | there is a howto |
| 02:43.35 | TeraByteS_ | tem brazuca aqui? |
| 02:43.47 | Huston | so I was happy to get my printer printing from all my machines |
| 02:43.57 | Gnea | TeraByteS_: engrish? |
| 02:43.58 | Huston | are you saying I should use samba to print |
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| 02:44.37 | Gnea | Huston: yeah, setup a printer spool for it that layers between cups and samba |
| 02:44.56 | abrotman | !pt |
| 02:44.56 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:45.02 | Huston | put that in newbie terms |
| 02:45.03 | Gnea | Huston: i think it's at www.tldp.org |
| 02:45.45 | Huston | yep that is what google turned up |
| 02:45.54 | Gnea | Huston: in order for machine A to print to printer D, server B needs to have layer C |
| 02:46.22 | abrotman | pizza? |
| 02:46.27 | Gnea | cheese |
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| 02:46.59 | abrotman | pseubodot: you don't love me anymore |
| 02:47.05 | abrotman | !pizza me |
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| 02:49.32 | abrotman | !moo |
| 02:49.33 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 02:49.50 | Huston | okay I don't even have an smbprint.... |
| 02:50.07 | abrotman | !find bin/smbprint |
| 02:50.21 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/smbprint' returned no results. |
| 02:50.25 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:50.29 | abrotman | !find smbprint |
| 02:50.37 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'smbprint' (3): (/usr/lib/printfilters/smbprint) in text/printfilters-ppd ;; (/usr/lib/tkchooser/icons/smbprint.pnm) in otherosfs/tkchooser ;; (/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/examples/printing/{smbprint|smbprint.sysv}) in doc/samba-doc. |
| 02:51.01 | Huston | I take dpkg is the all around know it all bot |
| 02:51.02 | abrotman | maybe some day .. i'll get one of those new fangled 4pin printers |
| 02:51.37 | gameman73 | um usb? |
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| 02:52.03 | abrotman | yeah .. serial of course . 25 pin |
| 02:52.04 | stew | paper is sooo 20th century |
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| 02:54.43 | Huston | my printcap file doesn't have a thing in it |
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| 02:55.05 | user12 | what is the command to add or remove modules from the kernel? Something like modconfig? |
| 02:55.14 | abrotman | user12: modconf |
| 02:55.31 | user12 | if command not found what package do i need |
| 02:55.31 | user12 | ? |
| 02:55.35 | stew | user12: modprobe and modprobe -r |
| 02:55.45 | abrotman | user12: be root or install it |
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| 02:55.46 | liable | !installit |
| 02:55.47 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
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| 02:55.51 | Anandamide | hello |
| 02:56.05 | stew | modconf is part of base |
| 02:56.11 | Anandamide | how safe is it to use sources from different distros? |
| 02:56.12 | Huston | so do I need to add the settings to printcap and make an smbprint file? |
| 02:56.18 | user12 | wasn't installed actuallly |
| 02:56.19 | abrotman | stew: some peope somehow get machiens without it .. it's happened many times |
| 02:56.33 | stew | Anandamide: generally not, what are you after exactly? |
| 02:56.39 | user12 | happened here, custom install |
| 02:56.43 | Anandamide | i installed sid |
| 02:56.46 | abrotman | Anandamide: it's not really .. but it's your machine .. we can't stop you from triyng to run your car on applesauce either |
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| 02:56.55 | Anandamide | and i see that e17 is available from deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 02:56.56 | gravity | mmm... applesauce |
| 02:57.02 | abrotman | !dr17 |
| 02:57.02 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 02:57.10 | Anandamide | thanks =) |
| 02:57.18 | gravity | Man... one slashdot story with pretty pics and everyone is hot for E again |
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| 02:57.26 | abrotman | gravity: i haven't had any in a while |
| 02:57.28 | gravity | Unexpected, but not unsurprising |
| 02:57.32 | gravity | abrotman: Me neither |
| 02:57.32 | abrotman | i used to keep large jars of it |
| 02:57.37 | gravity | Whoa |
| 02:57.39 | abrotman | gravity: that story was .. almost a year ago |
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| 02:57.51 | abrotman | whoa ? |
| 02:57.53 | gravity | Seriously? Geez. |
| 02:57.55 | Muffie | Konqueror is really not intuitive! Im trying to change the background image of "File Management" profile for at least 40 minutes! Could not find it anywhere!!!!!!!! |
| 02:57.56 | gravity | I'm getting old |
| 02:58.46 | gravity | Muffie: It's not in their control panel thingy? control center? |
| 02:59.10 | liable | abrotman: large jars of e? |
| 02:59.24 | abrotman | gravity: i was wrong .. february |
| 02:59.29 | abrotman | liable: apple sauce |
| 02:59.30 | gravity | Ah, ok |
| 02:59.35 | Muffie | Im trying to look at conqueror "options" |
| 02:59.46 | gravity | Oooooh... I was surprised. abrotman... hardcore dealer? Didn't fit... |
| 02:59.50 | Muffie | Settings menu options... |
| 02:59.54 | gravity | Muffie: Try the control panel |
| 03:00.02 | Muffie | ok... let me check |
| 03:00.06 | abrotman | gravity: it's the hat |
| 03:00.11 | gravity | Hahahaha |
| 03:00.26 | Muffie | gravity : Appearence and Themes? |
| 03:00.30 | gravity | Muffie: Most likely |
| 03:00.35 | gravity | Muffie: I haven't used KDE in a while |
| 03:00.37 | abrotman | #debian-kde would know |
| 03:00.38 | abrotman | or #kde |
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| 03:00.45 | gravity | I think Muffie is on the right track |
| 03:00.59 | abrotman | okeedokee |
| 03:01.00 | gravity | Muffie: Konqueror is only the file browser. It doesn't control all of KDE |
| 03:01.06 | mortal5 | hey guys, how do you disable gpm for a lil bit so you can install NVidia drivers? |
| 03:01.09 | gravity | And web browser I guess |
| 03:01.29 | Muffie | gravity : Thats really frustrating... |
| 03:01.32 | abrotman | gpm ? |
| 03:01.41 | abrotman | gpm blocks nvidia ? |
| 03:01.54 | beardy | mortal5: /etc/init.d/gpm stop, but why does nvidia care about it? |
| 03:01.55 | gameman73 | i think he means gdm, login display manager |
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| 03:02.07 | mortal5 | yes |
| 03:02.09 | Muffie | gravity : I only want to modify the background pattern of the File Manager! But eventually the File Manager is also a web browser!!! And "Settings" are full of web options! |
| 03:02.10 | servus | killall -9 gdm :P |
| 03:02.14 | gameman73 | lol |
| 03:02.14 | beardy | what I said then, change letters |
| 03:02.18 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 03:02.25 | mortal5 | nvida doesn't want x running when it installs |
| 03:02.28 | mortal5 | k |
| 03:02.53 | abrotman | $ echo gpm | upside-down |
| 03:02.53 | abrotman | wd6 |
| 03:03.06 | servus | I've never gotten the official NVidia installer to work in Debian. I always have to untar and compile the source myself, without using their menu system at all. |
| 03:03.07 | beardy | :) |
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| 03:03.35 | beardy | servus: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 03:04.06 | abrotman | bah .. we should all use |
| 03:04.07 | abrotman | !s3 |
| 03:04.07 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
| 03:04.09 | servus | Not gonna use module assistant. |
| 03:04.10 | abrotman | yay!!!!!!! |
| 03:04.44 | servus | Not only is it a custom kernel, but I wanted the very newest GL drivers. Module-assistant barfed long ago. |
| 03:04.48 | gravity | Maybe Muffie should be using gnome instead? |
| 03:05.00 | abrotman | or xfe |
| 03:05.02 | abrotman | or gentoo |
| 03:05.04 | abrotman | or mc |
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| 03:07.19 | abrotman | Piggy: you're tasty! |
| 03:07.34 | brianjp | how would one add a device node say /dev/hda4 ? |
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| 03:08.15 | abrotman | make ? |
| 03:08.27 | abrotman | brianjp: wait .. that's a partition .. |
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| 03:09.31 | Huston | how do I modify the printcap file? |
| 03:09.36 | brianjp | abrotman, yeah the partion exists, i just created it, but the device link does not .... ? |
| 03:09.56 | abrotman | brianjp: then .. i tshould be there |
| 03:10.10 | abrotman | gravity: you better cheer! |
| 03:10.18 | Huston | I can't do it with kate.. |
| 03:10.23 | gravity | abrotman: :-) |
| 03:10.25 | drbrown | is it possible to use cp to copy a running root partition to another partition??? a document says to use the switches anu, but n does not appear to be a valid option |
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| 03:10.41 | gravity | Huston: Do you have permissions to write to the file? |
| 03:10.46 | drbrown | yes |
| 03:11.01 | Huston | yes I am root |
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| 03:11.16 | gravity | Huston: What happens with kate? |
| 03:11.16 | Huston | it just shows a blank file |
| 03:11.27 | gravity | Are you sure it's not blank? |
| 03:11.35 | Huston | I modify it and it won't let me do save it |
| 03:11.37 | brianjp | is there a udev command to create device links? |
| 03:11.53 | Huston | the preview shows it as blank and when I open it it is blank |
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| 03:12.32 | gravity | Huston: What happens when you cat it? |
| 03:12.42 | Huston | cat it? |
| 03:12.58 | gravity | Huston: cat /etc/printcap |
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| 03:13.55 | brianjp | is a reboot required to show a freshly created partition? |
| 03:14.08 | gravity | brianjp: Nope |
| 03:14.10 | brianjp | hmmm.. |
| 03:14.14 | Huston | nothing |
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| 03:14.26 | gravity | Huston: The file is empty or you don't have permissions to read it |
| 03:14.36 | gravity | Most likely the former |
| 03:14.37 | JimButton | brianjp: sometimes it is |
| 03:14.42 | Huston | I gave myself root permissions |
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| 03:14.48 | brianjp | JimButton, huh ok |
| 03:15.39 | gravity | Huston: If there's nothing in the file, there's nothing in the file |
| 03:15.39 | JimButton | brianjp: i have had problems with computers which did not recognize changed partition tables until after a reboot |
| 03:15.40 | brianjp | JimButton, ok cool, will try.. |
| 03:15.40 | Huston | don't I need to add entries to it to get my cups printer to work....and not leave residual print files on my other machines |
| 03:16.57 | Huston | I am having problems with print files showing up on my 2000 machine that are sent to the cups server, and it does not delete them after they have printed |
| 03:16.58 | maher | brianjp: partprobe |
| 03:16.58 | gravity | Huston: Just use the web interface to cups |
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| 03:17.16 | JimButton | i think i have to go see serenity, there is not a single bad review of it i have seen |
| 03:17.33 | mwilson | Go see it. You will like it. |
| 03:17.33 | idealbsd | why i can just using C-CR auto insert \item in thebibliography environment and alt-I not works in any environment in my debian/sid with vim-latex installed? |
| 03:17.56 | mwilson | It does have *some* "in" bits, for people that're familiar with the series, though. |
| 03:18.23 | JimButton | mwilson: yeah, i have never seen the series, but i heard it is still good |
| 03:18.31 | mwilson | Does a good job of introduction, though, for people who aren't. |
| 03:18.40 | mwilson | "Mirror Mask"? |
| 03:18.45 | gravity | I <3 Neil Gaimain |
| 03:18.49 | Huston | the print job completed from a 2000 machine and it still shows them there....I assume it is getting the data from cups |
| 03:18.56 | mwilson | I wanted to tell you something... what was it. |
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| 03:19.09 | maher | brianjp: partprobe |
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| 03:19.12 | mwilson | Oh, yes... your Xsetup thing makes no sense and you need to look at that again. :) |
| 03:19.12 | gravity | I also can't spell tonight :-p |
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| 03:19.18 | gravity | mwilson: Huh? |
| 03:19.23 | gravity | mwilson: The debconf stuff? |
| 03:19.34 | brianjp | ahh.. reboot solved it, thank you |
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| 03:20.23 | mwilson | No, the patch you committed to fix 324887. |
| 03:20.41 | mwilson | 'cause the result makes no sense. |
| 03:20.46 | boxerboy29 | apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get update none of these work for updates am i missing something? |
| 03:20.57 | gravity | Ah |
| 03:21.07 | gravity | Ok, I'll have a look at it tomorrow |
| 03:21.07 | gravity | Thanks |
| 03:21.27 | stew | boxerboy29: what are you expecting to happen? |
| 03:21.30 | mwilson | Especially look at the man page. |
| 03:21.34 | brianjp | maher, thanks, i keep that in mind |
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| 03:21.41 | Huston | do you have your source list uncommented boxer |
| 03:21.44 | mwilson | Maybe I'm just not reading it right, but it doesn't make much sense. |
| 03:21.47 | gravity | I didn't spend too much time on it. I just deleted references to the thing |
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| 03:21.56 | boxerboy29 | i installed sarge few days ago and im trying to find updates for it cause god knows there should be some |
| 03:21.57 | gravity | I'll look tomorrow. I'm quitting for the night |
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| 03:22.07 | Huston | there are |
| 03:22.10 | mwilson | Ok, I could rant. :) |
| 03:22.21 | mwilson | IMHO the correct fix was to put Xsetup back. :) |
| 03:22.24 | maher | boxerboy29: did you run apt-setup |
| 03:22.34 | idealbsd | why i can just using C-CR auto insert \item in thebibliography environment and alt-I not works in any environment in my debian/sid with vim-latex installed? |
| 03:22.41 | gravity | mwilson: Branden removed it for good reason apparently. It seems to seriously be broken. |
| 03:22.45 | stew | boxerboy29: the only update in the last couple days was mozilla-firefox do you have that installed? |
| 03:22.59 | agabus_ | could someone please tell me, i have a laptop i wish to multi-boot debian testing on. I want to use grub to be able to switch between windows and debian, will it setup the windows partition automatically in the grub bootloader? |
| 03:22.59 | boxerboy29 | 1.0.6 |
| 03:23.22 | stew | boxerboy29: what does apt-cache policy mozilla-firefox say for Installed and Candidate? |
| 03:23.30 | mwilson | I don't know what's supposed to be broken about it... it seems like you're removing necessary functionality. |
| 03:23.42 | gravity | It's in the changelog |
| 03:24.01 | gravity | I'm just going by that. I thought about putting it back in |
| 03:24.06 | gravity | But afaik, it's still broken |
| 03:24.10 | mwilson | THAT was the silly-season stuff about xconsole, not about the removal of the whole capability. |
| 03:24.23 | boxerboy29 | ok i lied its 1.0.4 |
| 03:24.30 | mwilson | The man page talks about using Xreset to make xdm's entry in utmp... that makes no sense. |
| 03:24.44 | agabus_ | anyone? multi-booting debian help ^^ |
| 03:24.58 | stew | boxerboy29: 1.0.4-2sarge5? |
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| 03:25.05 | boxerboy29 | yes |
| 03:25.12 | stew | boxerboy29: you are up to date then |
| 03:25.35 | boxerboy29 | ok ty i thought 1.0.7 was latest |
| 03:25.44 | stew | boxerboy29: not in stable |
| 03:25.50 | mwilson | Anyway, regardless of what the package does, I'll be putting it back in mine, so I'm not going to die or anything, it just seems like it got zero comment after that idiotic bug got filed. |
| 03:26.10 | stew | boxerboy29: however the version you have has the security patches from 1.0.7 |
| 03:26.21 | mwilson | I need Xsetup... without it, it's a little hard to set a root pixmap on the XDM screen. |
| 03:26.41 | boxerboy29 | oh ok |
| 03:26.44 | gravity | I'll talk to Branden and ask him what his thoughts were |
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| 03:27.21 | gravity | The problem with coming on to this package is that there's a lot of historical decisions that can't be fully documented |
| 03:27.21 | boxerboy29 | so the commands i was trying are to get updates right for future updates?: |
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| 03:27.33 | mwilson | I assume you were just removing the documentation... there's not a patch somewhere else that I haven't found that actually disables the resource setting for the filename? |
| 03:27.42 | stew | boxerboy29: yes |
| 03:27.47 | boxerboy29 | ok ty |
| 03:27.57 | gravity | mwilson: Right. As far as I know, it's still sourced. |
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| 03:28.19 | gravity | mwilson: I think we just don't enable it by default. I don't honestly remember the code I read. |
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| 03:28.52 | mwilson | No, in the current packages, it's enabled by default, but Debian doesn't ship one. The bug was a whine about why was it enabled *since* Debian didn't ship one. |
| 03:29.15 | gravity | Well, maybe the solution is to ship it commented out and let the user enable it |
| 03:29.22 | mwilson | The patch goes back and removes all mention of the file from the documentation, but leaves the resource setting, commented out. |
| 03:29.29 | gravity | I was surprised to see it removed all together mysefl |
| 03:29.31 | gravity | myself even |
| 03:29.40 | gravity | Right |
| 03:30.03 | mwilson | The *existence* of the option is harmless, as it doesn't do anything, doesn't produce any errors, even if there's no pointed-to file. |
| 03:30.09 | gravity | The idea was to allow people who really wanted it to use it but not encourage the behavior, more or less |
| 03:30.16 | mwilson | XDM just carrys on. |
| 03:30.17 | simonrvn | of what? |
| 03:30.22 | gravity | Anyway, I'll take a more careful look later. |
| 03:30.27 | mwilson | What's harmful about the behavior? |
| 03:30.30 | gravity | It's a *really* low priority |
| 03:30.35 | gravity | I could honestly give a rat's ass about xdm |
| 03:30.43 | mwilson | What Debian was DOING with it was debatable, but... |
| 03:30.47 | gravity | But I'll get to it before -8 goes out |
| 03:30.55 | mwilson | It was a high enough priority to remove it. :) |
| 03:31.05 | gravity | I didn't remove it. I just removed the documentation to it. |
| 03:31.23 | gravity | Which made sense in the context of Branden's decision |
| 03:31.57 | agabus_ | can my GRUB boot my NTFS windows xp? |
| 03:31.58 | gravity | If Branden's decision isn't a good one at this point, then it's worth revisiting. Otherwise I'm not going to worry about it. |
| 03:32.05 | mwilson | I remember him removing it back in 4.2.1something, and getting larted for it (not by me), and putting it back. I dunno when it got removed again, I can't find the entry in the changelog. |
| 03:32.22 | gravity | Maybe he meant to and it got lost in a regression. It happens. |
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| 03:32.31 | gravity | I'll make sure to ask him. |
| 03:32.43 | gravity | Anyway, I'm off |
| 03:32.47 | mwilson | g'night |
| 03:32.55 | agabus_ | anyone please? ^^^^ |
| 03:33.02 | bob2 | adios |
| 03:33.06 | bob2 | agabus_: sure |
| 03:33.09 | simonrvn | see ya gravity |
| 03:33.13 | mwilson | agabusYes, but it's far easier to just have NTLDR do it. |
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| 03:33.23 | stew | agabus_: yes, there should be an example in /usr/share/doc/grub/examples |
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| 03:33.58 | agabus_ | bob2 - so wen i install debian testing it will not auto-configure the boot for my NTFS partition, ill just have to edit the config later? but it does support NTFS?? |
| 03:34.33 | mwilson | When dual-booting Windows anything with an alternative OS, I've always found it easier to just let NTLDR handle it. |
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| 03:34.51 | bob2 | agabus_: it doesn't care about ntfs |
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| 03:35.11 | mwilson | oooh, I can actually see my desk agai |
| 03:35.15 | agabus_ | mwilson - what is NTLDR?? |
| 03:35.32 | mwilson | agabus_: The Windows boot-loader. |
| 03:36.09 | simonrvn | NT LoaDeR ... |
| 03:36.13 | mwilson | oooh, now I can actually charge my laptop, 'cause I can find the cord. |
| 03:36.17 | agabus_ | ah k, well hmm ill come back here wen ive got debian up and running and then talk to u guys from there. i just wanted to make sure before i installed that i wasnt gonna blow away all my windows partition |
| 03:36.39 | mwilson | No, just probably your ability to boot from it. |
| 03:37.32 | mwilson | Unless you're careful, anyway |
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| 03:37.57 | agabus_ | mwilson - well i was hoping the debian installer would detect it and set it up automatically in grub but i doubt that it will |
| 03:38.15 | snd | debian-stable as the package thttpd ver 2.23beta... that version is known to have a remote vuln in it... |
| 03:38.28 | liable | only time grub has killed windows on me, was when i thought i would see what suse was about.. |
| 03:38.38 | mwilson | I don't know. I don't have any experience with trying to use d-i on a dual-boot box. |
| 03:38.41 | snd | its named thttpd2.23beta1-3 , i'm guessing they patched it right? |
| 03:38.51 | bob2 | snd: security.debian.org |
| 03:39.18 | liable | agabus_: it generally does, without you having to do anything. |
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| 03:40.18 | agabus_ | liable - oh so it will automatically make an option for me to boot my NTFS windows? |
| 03:40.23 | mortal5 | could someone tell me why debian messes with the config on a vanilla kernel.org kernel? |
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| 03:40.43 | liable | agabus_: yes, it should. |
| 03:41.04 | agabus_ | liable - thats awesome if it does mate thanks :) |
| 03:41.09 | stew | mortal5: to enable as many options as possible so that it will work for as many people as possible without them having to recompile |
| 03:41.14 | mwilson | mortal5: Because that configuration isn't necessarily optimal for a large number of people. |
| 03:41.33 | mortal5 | this is a vanilla kernel, yet when I do "make menuconfig" it has all these options enabled by default |
| 03:41.46 | mortal5 | and I make sure there isn't a .config file in there |
| 03:41.48 | mwilson | mortal5: Huh? |
| 03:41.52 | bob2 | mortal5: the default kernel.org config runs on about 3 machines in the whole world |
| 03:41.58 | mwilson | Yes, so? That's what the kernel does for you. |
| 03:42.01 | bob2 | mortal5: ah, you don't know how menuconfig works |
| 03:42.09 | bob2 | mortal5: rm .config ; touch .config ; make menuconfig |
| 03:42.29 | mwilson | Am I missing something? You grab vanilla kernel source, you make menuconfig, which gets you a .config, and you complain about it? |
| 03:42.35 | snd | im looking this up and the vuln was public around July 2003, but the security team didn't patch it till Oct 2003?? |
| 03:42.48 | bob2 | snd: perhaps no one cares about thttpd |
| 03:42.57 | bob2 | snd: you're welcome to help make sure it happens faster in the future |
| 03:43.08 | mortal5 | mwilson: complaining about having to go through and deselect the multitte of stuff that debian has by default |
| 03:43.20 | mortal5 | bob2: thx will try |
| 03:43.23 | mwilson | mortal5: For the SECOND time... Debian didn't do it. |
| 03:43.23 | Guerin | mortal5: you got a vanilla kernel, or a debian kernel? |
| 03:43.26 | stew | mortal5: why are you compiling? |
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| 03:43.40 | Guerin | hint: vanilla == from kernel.org |
| 03:43.40 | snd | actually is it even patched? or did debian just issue an advisory and leave it alone? |
| 03:43.52 | snd | bob2: they dont need to patch it, just release the new version into stable! |
| 03:43.55 | mwilson | mortal5: You ran menuconfig without one there, menuconfig created one for you. |
| 03:44.21 | mortal5 | mwilson: i see, according to debian's default prefs? |
| 03:44.21 | mwilson | mortal5: Whine at the kernel people, if you don't like what they eneable by default, but it's not Debian's problem. |
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| 03:44.33 | mwilson | <sigh> |
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| 03:44.41 | mwilson | It's like talking to a wall. |
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| 03:44.57 | mortal5 | lol mwilson yeah it is, because this *isn't* the kernel defaults, it's alot more stuff |
| 03:45.02 | gushi | Hello all. What kernel version installs by default with sarge? |
| 03:45.05 | mwilson | I'm sure you think so. |
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| 03:45.18 | mortal5 | mwilson: as a long time slackware user, i know so |
| 03:45.19 | Guerin | mortal5: make menuconfig is the same everywhere. There's no debian defaults on a stock kernel. |
| 03:45.21 | stew | gushi: 2.4.27 |
| 03:45.28 | stew | gushi: 2.6.8 is also an option |
| 03:45.34 | mwilson | Oh. Slackware. Figures. |
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| 03:45.35 | jmd | Whats happened to the Gnome CD Player applet in etch ? |
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| 03:45.38 | gushi | where is that option presented? |
| 03:45.52 | mortal5 | bob2: thx for your advice, that's what i was looking for |
| 03:45.56 | emRick | I have two Debian computers hooked up with the blue networking cable. What app should I use to get a network connection? |
| 03:46.05 | stew | gushi: at the boot: prompt of the installer, if you have already installed you can apt-get a newer one |
| 03:46.08 | bob2 | snd: which may or may not break other things |
| 03:46.12 | stew | gushi: hit f3 at the boot prompt iirc |
| 03:46.21 | bob2 | snd: are you volunteering to check that it is utterly compatible? |
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| 03:46.57 | snd | what is your point, i never took on the responsiblity of developing an os |
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| 03:47.23 | user12 | can someone point me in the right direction to get a mn-520 wireless card working - seems to need a special configuration as my other wireless pcmcia card (both are) just works |
| 03:47.31 | bob2 | snd: the point is that things take time, and complaining about it doesn't make it happen faster. yo uare free to help if thhtpd is something you acare about, tho. |
| 03:47.37 | bob2 | user12: what chipset? |
| 03:47.49 | jmd | emRick, You need a linux kernel with an eth module |
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| 03:48.14 | jmd | emRick, What exactly do you mean by "a network connection"? |
| 03:48.21 | snd | bob2: i dont see why, when most of the other distros are already up to the latest version |
| 03:48.34 | bob2 | snd: awesome, but that's not what Debian does |
| 03:48.47 | bob2 | snd: randomly upgrading to new upstream versions is not acceptable; who knows what it will break? |
| 03:49.10 | snd | much better than going 3 months without a patch |
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| 03:49.26 | bob2 | if you say so |
| 03:49.29 | snd | someone rooting your box will break more |
| 03:49.37 | bob2 | anyway, the problem would appear to be that no one cares about thttpd |
| 03:49.39 | mwilson | To *thttpd*? Please. |
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| 03:50.38 | encompass | good morning/evening everyone! |
| 03:50.50 | snd | that is what ive noticed now, there could be others |
| 03:51.04 | snd | also for instance whats the sense in delaying the release of security programs? |
| 03:51.06 | mfrisch | my squid is borked. :-( |
| 03:51.10 | snd | such as clamav |
| 03:51.12 | stew | snd: check #228907 the maintainer said today that another version is imminent |
| 03:51.20 | stew | snd: /msg dpkg volatile |
| 03:51.22 | mwilson | snd: Then you're volunteering to help with the security team? Good, they can use you. |
| 03:51.45 | stew | snd: the volatile project was started with clamav in mind |
| 03:52.13 | snd | my point is whats so great about debian when its so worried about being stable over security, when countless other OS work stable with up to date security |
| 03:52.25 | encompass | I am trying to compile a driver and am getting an error - no rule to make target ... any ideas? |
| 03:52.33 | mwilson | Your point is that you're trolling. |
| 03:52.48 | mwilson | Unless you're volunteering to help. |
| 03:53.11 | snd | No... I'm honestly trying to comprehend to popularity of debian |
| 03:53.21 | bob2 | snd: again, you're missing the point |
| 03:53.26 | bob2 | snd: debian is some random group of people |
| 03:53.34 | bob2 | snd: thttpd was not fixed because no one cared enough to do so |
| 03:53.39 | encompass | snd I know I am coming right into this conversation, but if you want to know where security problems are, read the art of deception by kevin mitnik |
| 03:53.55 | stew | that book sucked |
| 03:54.00 | encompass | I am secure, I use debian |
| 03:54.14 | mwilson | snd: Oh, you're here to save us all from ourselves and lead us to the wonderful world of Gentoo, right? Or was it Slackware? No, I bet it was Fedora. |
| 03:54.18 | mfrisch | encompass sure you are ;-) |
| 03:54.29 | encompass | stew I loved it, it is the one book I kept when comming to finland for school |
| 03:55.06 | stew | that book would have made a fine magazine article, but there wasn't enough material there for an entire book |
| 03:55.16 | encompass | anyway, I have a compile problem... can anyone help me... I think it just can't find my kernel source |
| 03:55.16 | gravity | Christ, I should have just gone to bed |
| 03:55.25 | mwilson | I thought you had. :) |
| 03:55.27 | gravity | snd: Usually Debian security updates are fast and efficient. |
| 03:55.37 | gravity | snd: Lately they've been short of manpower. |
| 03:55.44 | gravity | snd: If you want to help them, feel free to do so |
| 03:55.47 | stew | encompass: what are you trying to compile? are you sure you need kernel sources and not just the headers? |
| 03:55.50 | gravity | snd: But it'll take gruntwork. Lots of it. |
| 03:55.56 | encompass | snd get the updates yourself if your so worried |
| 03:56.06 | gravity | snd: Generally thankless gruntwork, I might add |
| 03:56.09 | encompass | a driver for my wireless card |
| 03:56.12 | snd | :) |
| 03:56.41 | gravity | snd: So if you don't feel like dealing with a bunch of volunteers who do this in their free time for the love of it, go pay some company for support |
| 03:56.43 | encompass | stew it is rtl8180 closed or open driver, both give me the same error |
| 03:56.49 | snd | im not worried, ill just avoid using it, theres always alternatives, but im just trying to understand the logic |
| 03:56.52 | gravity | snd: Or if some other distro suits your needs more, feel free to go use it |
| 03:57.04 | gravity | snd: But stop trolling here, Ok? |
| 03:57.17 | snd | i dropped it along time ago until you brought it up again gravity :) |
| 03:57.28 | emRick | jmd: I assume that with two Linux machines on a local network that I could read/write files across both machines. I want a few keywords on what I should search for to set up something. I see keywords like Samba, like Lisa ... what is a good (GUI/wizard?) app that will get the two systems to access each other. |
| 03:57.40 | encompass | snd I agree with gravity , I am here for support not pestoring |
| 03:57.48 | gravity | encompass: You're not helping |
| 03:57.52 | stew | encompass: in general you should only need the headers. what does "uname -r" say |
| 03:58.15 | encompass | 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 03:58.23 | mwilson | emRick: Two *nix machines? Use NFS. |
| 03:58.31 | encompass | nfs is the way |
| 03:58.39 | stew | encompass: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 03:58.40 | emRick | mwilson: thanks |
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| 03:59.13 | encompass | I did that.. and no change in the errors, I think it has to do with some linking or something |
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| 03:59.52 | stew | encompass: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build should link to /usr/src/kernel-headers-$(uanme -r) which is where it should be looking |
| 04:00.09 | encompass | stew do you want the full error? |
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| 04:00.12 | stew | encompass: whatever you are compiling could, however, be broken and be looking in /usr/src/linux |
| 04:00.18 | emRick | encompass/mwilson: happen to know of a Debian package with a nice GUI ... I just click a bit, enter a machine name, and presto ... they're talking. Or is this an involved RTFM job? |
| 04:00.22 | stew | encompass: use paster /whois paster |
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| 04:00.34 | encompass | that's what I am thinking, how could I fix that |
| 04:00.52 | stew | encompass: ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux |
| 04:00.57 | jmd | emRick, Try looking for NFS |
| 04:01.03 | buu | emRick: ssh! |
| 04:01.14 | stew | encompass: and write the authors and point them to the README in the kernel source that says that that symlink isn't supposed to be there |
| 04:01.25 | servus | Or /usr/kernel-source- ... |
| 04:01.37 | servus | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.41 | emRick | hmm, the "nfs(5)" man page says I can add to fstab ... is this where I should start |
| 04:02.08 | jmd | emRick, First make sure you can ping the other machine. |
| 04:02.25 | jmd | emRick: Use ping <IP-address> |
| 04:03.34 | Huston | does anyone here use synaptic? I haven't seen anyone mention using it..., and was curious as to why...hopefully that isn't a bad question. I use it and apt both, but was curious as to why others didn't? |
| 04:04.03 | gravity | Huston: It's fine, although most people here just tend to prefer aptitude or apt-get |
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| 04:04.16 | gravity | Huston: Nothing at all wrong with synaptic though |
| 04:04.24 | cheal | !anyone |
| 04:04.25 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 04:04.31 | deadcat | gravity: what up what up? |
| 04:04.36 | gravity | deadcat: Hi |
| 04:04.56 | Huston | okay..I used it to install the 2.6.8 kernel and it did it all for me.. |
| 04:04.59 | gravity | Caught me just before bed :-p |
| 04:04.59 | encompass | stew I think it is set up right, I have pasted it on paster under jason |
| 04:05.07 | Huston | was I lucky? |
| 04:05.07 | gravity | ...again... |
| 04:05.20 | cheal | Huston: how come you would? |
| 04:05.23 | gravity | Huston: Huh? Why would that be lucky? That's what it's supposed to do. |
| 04:05.45 | encompass | stew I don{t think it could be just that make file, I think all my compiles give the same error, I tried using ndiswrapper and it gave me the same error |
| 04:05.54 | Huston | it just seemed easy that way....no I just figured it might lead to broken packages |
| 04:05.59 | gravity | hahahaha |
| 04:06.02 | gravity | Huston: Welcome to Debian |
| 04:06.06 | stew | encompass: sorry bedtime for me. for ndiswrapper, /msg dpkg ndiswrapper |
| 04:06.18 | gravity | Anyway, much like stew, I am off |
| 04:06.20 | gravity | later |
| 04:06.23 | mwilson | He keeps *saying* he's going to bed... |
| 04:06.24 | encompass | thats what I did instead |
| 04:06.24 | stew | err /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 04:06.29 | Huston | I like debian actually it good stuff |
| 04:06.36 | Huston | later gravity |
| 04:06.45 | deadcat | mwilson: me too. i am oging to bed soon |
| 04:07.02 | deadcat | !zd1211 |
| 04:07.04 | encompass | but I cant use the ndiswrapper, I will have to use the driver and that is what I am trying to do |
| 04:07.11 | jmd | emRick, If you're new to networking, then you need to read http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#nag2 |
| 04:07.18 | Huston | I am just learning a lot that is all |
| 04:07.23 | mwilson | Wow... this is like SO cool. I actually have a desk. |
| 04:07.27 | deadcat | anyone using zd1211 driver? whats the status on it? master mode, monitor mode... |
| 04:07.31 | Huston | being a windows user for so long |
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| 04:08.15 | user12 | wlan0 interface doesn't support scanning- any ideas? |
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| 04:08.38 | emRick | jmd: these machines aren't on the net ... isn't everybody "localhost" (ie 127.0.0.1) ... don't I have configure something to assign everybody their own IP address |
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| 04:08.47 | encompass | user12 your driver may be broken, that's what happened to me |
| 04:09.04 | emRick | jmd: ah, ok, I see the URL you gave me ... tnx |
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| 04:09.10 | deadcat | user12: what card/driver you using? |
| 04:09.42 | jmd | emRick, Convention says that you should give them address of 192.168.0.xxx |
| 04:10.00 | Huston | isn't there a netcard config package..? |
| 04:10.11 | deadcat | Huston: wireless-tools |
| 04:10.18 | deadcat | Huston: nevermind. |
| 04:10.59 | Huston | no I meant that emrick could use... |
| 04:11.20 | sng | jmd: What?!? |
| 04:11.36 | Huston | mine has a networking program that I can set how the card gets its IP |
| 04:12.03 | deadcat | if i have serveral network {} in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, how do i tell which to use? |
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| 04:12.46 | Huston | he is doing two machines.... |
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| 04:13.17 | jmd | sng, It was a simplification. But I didn't want to confuse the poor newbie. |
| 04:13.33 | liable | deadcat: i think it chooses the strogest signal or something, its in the docs somewhere.. |
| 04:13.55 | sng | jmd: No no no. Giving out wrong inforamtion is NEVER a good thing. Now go write that on a blackboard 5000 times and then come back. |
| 04:14.26 | deadcat | liable: oh. but sometimes i want to connect to a specific one. know what i mean? i notice when i start the script. it list all the networks in dmesg. |
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| 04:14.55 | deadcat | liable: why cant it just use iwconfig to set wpa settings anyway.. |
| 04:15.20 | sng | jmd: And besides that if you are going to insist on doing that pick an address space that isn't fugly. :P |
| 04:15.33 | Thaiger | I just changed to X.Org and I'm getting what seems like libgl errors, what package would I upgrade to get new libgl? |
| 04:15.59 | deadcat | Thaiger: apt-get upgrade |
| 04:16.07 | jmd | sng: You're wrong. It's always a good idea to give people who are learning the "wrong" information. Just so long as they realise it's a simplification. |
| 04:16.34 | liable | deadcat: hmm, i havent messed with multiple networks with it, you cant tell it from cl? |
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| 04:16.49 | sng | jmd: No no I'm not. Also you said nothing to indicate that it was a smiplification. So I win either way. Thanks for playing. |
| 04:16.51 | deadcat | liable: i dont know how wpa_cli work (= |
| 04:16.58 | DPadclear | Does anyone know how to display all the possible "alternatives" |
| 04:17.13 | sng | deadcat! |
| 04:17.13 | deadcat | liable: testing the usb card using zd1211 driver hehe |
| 04:17.19 | deadcat | sng! |
| 04:17.20 | jmd | sng: EG: did you learn about Einstein's theory of general relativity BEFORE you learnt about newtonian physics? |
| 04:17.21 | sng | deadcat: How you been man? |
| 04:17.38 | deadcat | sng: busy as hell. damn english class is too much work. |
| 04:17.51 | sng | deadcat: Ouch. Fair enough. |
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| 04:18.49 | Anandamide | can anyone point me to an article that can show me how to create a boot disk for my USB pendrive? |
| 04:18.58 | sng | jmd: Resorting to a *bad* analogy is a sure sign that you know you've lost. Just give it up now. I'm not going to continue this. |
| 04:19.10 | Anandamide | or an image that i can burn to mini cd |
| 04:19.16 | jmd | sng: Good. Next time please don't start it. |
| 04:19.21 | Thaiger | How do I find packages that are not fully installed or removed? |
| 04:19.45 | bob2 | Thaiger: dpkg -l | grep ^blah |
| 04:19.56 | bob2 | where blah = whatever the status code is for those things |
| 04:20.33 | sng | jmd: No. The giving out of wrong information needs to be corrected. Sorry but it just does. Can't have that stuff going on unchallanged. |
| 04:20.48 | bob2 | sng: which information was "wrong"? |
| 04:20.49 | Thaiger | bob2: Thanks |
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| 04:21.55 | deadcat | bob2: you use wpa_supplicant? |
| 04:21.57 | emRick | Huston: ha, there seem to be a ton of Debian configuration packages out there: etherconf, ifplugd, ifupdown, dhcpcd, cfengine, bridge-utils ... any idea which is the right one for a simple Linux-to-Linux-at-home? |
| 04:22.05 | bob2 | deadcat: no |
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| 04:22.18 | sng | bob2: 21:09:44 < jmd> | emRick, Convention says that you should give them address of 192.168.0.xxx |
| 04:22.22 | bob2 | emRick: just configure it statically |
| 04:22.38 | user12 | can anyone point me in the right direction to fix - interface does not support scanning for my smc2532w-b pcmcia wireless card - it , does workjust doesn' t seem to scan for networks |
| 04:22.39 | sng | bob2: Also whois me please. Might help if you know who I really am. :) |
| 04:22.55 | bob2 | sng: how is that wrong? would saying "Convention says you should use an IP from RFC-1918" be clearer to random newbies? |
| 04:23.07 | DPadclear | Anyone? update-alternatives? |
| 04:23.09 | jmd | emRick, None of the above. man interfaces |
| 04:23.09 | bob2 | hah |
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| 04:23.21 | bob2 | sng: use your normal damn nick, slacker |
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| 04:23.45 | sng | bob2: With a pointer to RFC 1918 yes it would be better IMO. Or a brief explanation. |
| 04:23.49 | Huston | hang on I will see which one I have installed |
| 04:23.49 | user12 | iwlist give - interface does not support scanning????? |
| 04:23.51 | sng | bob2: Heh. |
| 04:24.01 | emRick | jmd: tnx ... this looks like what I want |
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| 04:25.01 | deadcat | user12: what driver you using? |
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| 04:25.23 | sn00p | how do I install a .deb file? |
| 04:25.26 | deadcat | user12: using ndis? cant scan. |
| 04:25.32 | deadcat | sn00p: dpkg -i blah.deb |
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| 04:28.42 | user12 | deadcat - uses orinoco driver |
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| 04:29.27 | user12 | deadcat -using ndis ????? |
| 04:30.04 | diesel | Is it possible to mount a directory so that the mounted directory behaves as /dev/cdrom? |
| 04:31.25 | bob2 | no |
| 04:31.30 | bob2 | /dev/cdrom isn't a directory |
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| 04:32.16 | diesel | I know that /dev/cdrom is not a directory. That is why I asked the question |
| 04:32.47 | Huston | it is the gnome-system-tools package |
| 04:34.00 | deadcat | user12: orinoco? i thought the lastest orinoco driver supports scanning |
| 04:34.07 | doleyb | diesel: run mkisofs on the directory, then link that in place of /dev/cdrom, which is silly. |
| 04:34.46 | diesel | doleyb, why is that silly? |
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| 04:35.27 | doleyb | silly because it won't accomplish anything good. if you want to fake some other dir being a cdrom, just link from /mnt/cdrom to it. |
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| 04:36.16 | diesel | doleyb, okay. That seems like the better way. |
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| 04:36.48 | user12 | deadcat - don't know |
| 04:37.13 | Huston | it gives a simple gui interface |
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| 04:41.11 | user12 | deadcat actually might be a prism I card - does this support scanning? |
| 04:41.54 | user12 | do I need to change mode from managed to ad hoc to scan for networks? |
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| 04:46.07 | Varanger | hi |
| 04:46.10 | deadcat | user12: use hostap instead of orinoco if is prism card. |
| 04:46.14 | Varanger | I am using Debian and Firefox |
| 04:46.29 | Varanger | how can Firefox show Japanese characters? |
| 04:46.31 | deadcat | user12: ad-hoc is machine to machine, you want mode monitor |
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| 04:46.43 | deadcat | Varanger: install japanese fonts |
| 04:46.58 | Varanger | deadcat: which package? |
| 04:47.22 | deadcat | Varanger: no clue. search |
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| 04:49.05 | akusarujin | anyone in here using fglrx from the rpm ati provides? if so, and you do not use --force-overwrite when installing it, what method do you use to avoid the collision between the two copies of libGL.so.1.2? i use dpkg-divert to remap things a bit, so to speak, but i am looking to see if there is an alternative. |
| 04:49.27 | Seb | dpkg, tell akusarujin about ati |
| 04:49.34 | akusarujin | ugh |
| 04:50.05 | deadcat | !tell akusarujin about ati |
| 04:50.15 | Seb | deadcat: it did work ;) |
| 04:50.22 | deadcat | oh (= |
| 04:50.25 | akusarujin | now that was extremely unnecessary |
| 04:50.35 | akusarujin | i was ughing over the use of tell to begin with |
| 04:50.40 | deadcat | akusarujin: shutup |
| 04:50.50 | akusarujin | i don't know why people can't just say "ask dpkg about ati" |
| 04:51.10 | litage | if a process with pid 16084 exists, why would this command neither stop the process, nor produce any output?: skill TERM -v -p 16084 |
| 04:51.23 | Seb | akusarujin: cause it's faster like that ? |
| 04:51.27 | akusarujin | litage: is it a zombie process? |
| 04:51.30 | Seb | akusarujin: do you find it rude or something ? |
| 04:51.46 | akusarujin | Seb: yeah, i do. i always have. i don't know why more people don't think of it in the same way. |
| 04:51.49 | litage | akusarujin: it's not a zombie |
| 04:52.07 | akusarujin | litage: i'm not too sure, then, if it's not a zombie process. |
| 04:52.14 | Seb | akusarujin: cause you're wrong to think that ? |
| 04:52.27 | din | gn |
| 04:52.27 | Seb | litage: what about simply kill 16084 |
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| 04:52.45 | mortal5 | hey guys, me again |
| 04:52.46 | akusarujin | Seb: an opinion is an opinion |
| 04:52.56 | Seb | it is |
| 04:52.58 | mortal5 | got my kernel straigtn'd out |
| 04:53.01 | Crysknife007 | How do I find the pid's again |
| 04:53.11 | akusarujin | Crysknife007: ps |
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| 04:53.26 | Crysknife007 | akusarujin: thanks |
| 04:53.34 | akusarujin | Crysknife007: no problem |
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| 04:53.50 | mortal5 | I was just wondering if deb had a special x windows configurator program |
| 04:53.58 | mortal5 | cause my usb mouse isn't working |
| 04:54.04 | cheal | !drxx mortal5 |
| 04:54.06 | dpkg | mortal5: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 04:54.11 | cheal | !x windows |
| 04:54.11 | dpkg | It's X dammit! A) The X Window System. B) X |
| 04:54.35 | akusarujin | mortal5: cat /dev/input/mice mortal5, and see if it produces any output for starters.. if it does, then it's just an x configuration problem. (ctrl+c it when you're done, btw) |
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| 04:54.50 | mortal5 | akusarujin: rgr |
| 04:54.50 | akusarujin | and move your mouse, of course |
| 04:54.52 | liable | !literal x windows |
| 04:54.53 | dpkg | x windows is <reply> It's X dammit! A) The X Window System. B) X |
| 04:55.07 | litage | what are the differences between these [kill] signals?: TERM, HUP, ABRT, ALRM, KILL |
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| 04:55.32 | akusarujin | litage: check the man page -- it explains them quite well (not to be an ass) |
| 04:55.43 | litage | akusarujin: which manpage? |
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| 04:55.44 | akusarujin | litage: man 8 kill to be specific |
| 04:55.47 | litage | thanks |
| 04:55.51 | akusarujin | er, 1* |
| 04:55.51 | mortal5 | akusarujin: I didn't see anything |
| 04:55.54 | akusarujin | man 1 kill, rather |
| 04:56.03 | mortal5 | so you think it's a kernel problem? |
| 04:56.14 | akusarujin | mortal5: no, i don't. i wouldn't jump to such a conclusion. |
| 04:56.14 | mortal5 | I double checked that |
| 04:56.37 | akusarujin | mortal5: unplug the mouse and plug it back in, then execute dmesg | tail as root |
| 04:56.37 | litage | akusarujin: actually, the manpage barely describes the differences |
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| 04:56.45 | mortal5 | ok |
| 04:57.02 | user12 | sdasd |
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| 04:58.00 | Seb | litage: man 7 signal |
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| 04:58.07 | litage | thanks Seb |
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| 04:59.20 | user12 | anyone know why my smc2532w-b card would connect fine to my wireless router but say interface doesn't support scanning? |
| 04:59.36 | mortal5 | "usb 3-2 new low speed device using uhci_hcd and address 3" |
| 05:00.38 | Seb | mortal5: you *are* moving the moving while watching cat /dev/input/mice, right ? |
| 05:00.43 | Seb | moving the mouse, even |
| 05:00.46 | mortal5 | Seb: yes |
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| 05:01.00 | warjest- | how much longer on sid's borked pam packages? |
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| 05:01.20 | Varanger | I have installed Gnome, Enlightenment and GDM |
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| 05:01.28 | akusarujin | warjest-: what's borked? |
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| 05:01.36 | Varanger | how can I choose between GNOME and Enlightment ??? |
| 05:01.43 | warjest- | sk@sk:~$ su - |
| 05:01.44 | warjest- | Password: |
| 05:01.44 | warjest- | configuration error - unknown item 'QMAIL_DIR' (notify administrator) |
| 05:01.51 | warjest- | all of login.defs errors our |
| 05:02.44 | Seb | warjest-: *how much longer* ? |
| 05:02.59 | mortal5 | Seb: akusarujin , what do you think? you think the kernel isn't picking it up al the way? Or deb is misconfigured? |
| 05:03.00 | warjest- | yeah |
| 05:03.02 | maher | warjest-: works for me |
| 05:03.11 | warjest- | jesus |
| 05:03.12 | Seb | warjest-: you checked the BTS ? |
| 05:03.29 | warjest- | sec |
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| 05:04.32 | warjest- | i'm not seeing it in there |
| 05:04.32 | maher | warjest-: also my pam doesn't have a QMAIL_DIR anywhere in it as far as i can see so its probably not pam that's broken... |
| 05:04.53 | cheal | warjest-: with what login? |
| 05:04.57 | warjest- | come to #flood |
| 05:05.35 | warjest- | as you can see it is every variable defined |
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| 05:06.08 | Seb | warjest-: how do you expect this "bug" to be fixed if you don't report it first ? |
| 05:06.25 | warjest- | smarter people do it |
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| 05:06.56 | Varanger | how can I choose between GNOME and Enlightment in GDM login screen= |
| 05:06.57 | Seb | warjest-: and dumber people *wait* |
| 05:06.59 | Varanger | ? |
| 05:07.14 | warjest- | precisely |
| 05:07.18 | warjest- | like i said, neem a few weeks |
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| 05:07.54 | Seb | been ? |
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| 05:08.16 | litage | is it unwise to create a pipe in /tmp/ that will be available and used extensively 90% of the time? |
| 05:08.45 | bob2 | only in terms of security |
| 05:09.13 | warjest- | litage: hitting up two networks with the same question? :) |
| 05:10.21 | litage | warjest-: =P |
| 05:10.29 | warjest- | # These options are no more handled by shadow. # |
| 05:10.42 | warjest- | i dont think this was done in english, this will be fun to debug |
| 05:11.12 | sarver311 | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
| 05:11.30 | Seb | sarver311: no quotes ;) |
| 05:11.34 | sarver311 | hehe yah |
| 05:11.40 | mortal5 | can anyone help me with my usb mouse, apparently, the kernel is picking it up, but /dev/input/mice has nothing |
| 05:11.43 | sarver311 | its been WWAAAAAY to long on irc lol |
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| 05:14.55 | cmug | stupor is a beer? like tuborg |
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| 05:18.55 | warjest- | Seb: what does stracing this buy me |
| 05:19.18 | Seb | warjest-: excuse me ? |
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| 05:19.38 | warjest- | nevermind, maher said to :) |
| 05:23.04 | warjest- | can you search the bts on contents of the bug, not just the pkg ? |
| 05:23.57 | bob2 | you usually use googlle |
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| 05:24.52 | Gumby | hrm, when you delete a file, how long should it take for the OS to notice its gone and add that files size back to the available space? |
| 05:25.12 | maher | Gumby: when the last ps withthat file open closes it |
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| 05:26.28 | Gumby | maher: thx. |
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| 05:26.53 | peterS | Gumby: that's a fundamental difference between Unix and non-Unix filesystems - a file can exist with any number of directory entries, including zero (if the file has been deleted but some process still has it open). on Windows, for example, you're not allowed to delete a file that anyone still has open |
| 05:26.56 | Gumby | one mre question... is /proc/kcore a set filesize? Most of my boxes seem to be at around 500mb but one is over 1gb |
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| 05:27.07 | drfoxing | Hola gente. |
| 05:27.12 | peterS | Gumby: /proc/kcore isn't a real file anyway, so don't worry about it |
| 05:27.18 | drfoxing | alguien que me puedo ayudar con mi d-link 530tx!! |
| 05:27.19 | peterS | Gumby: it's the size of your memory |
| 05:27.20 | drfoxing | help me |
| 05:27.20 | maher | Gumby: it should be ram size |
| 05:27.21 | ke6isf | !es |
| 05:27.21 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:27.24 | drfoxing | help me |
| 05:27.30 | Gumby | physical or virrtual? |
| 05:27.37 | peterS | Gumby: why don't you figure it out? |
| 05:27.43 | maher | Gumby: physical - and don't try and delete it... |
| 05:27.45 | jm_ | you don't know how much RAM you have in your box? |
| 05:27.55 | peterS | or how much swap? |
| 05:28.04 | warjest- | http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/ecaf34b04bfb7f8c/cf1e999931d149bc%23cf1e999931d149bc?sa=X&oi=groupsr&start=0&num=2 |
| 05:28.05 | warjest- | there it is |
| 05:28.22 | Gumby | maher: how can it be physical? I only have 512mb of ram. |
| 05:28.31 | cheal | [DSA 838-1] New mozilla-firefox packages fox multiple vulnerabilities |
| 05:28.44 | cheal | this DSA title looks foxed |
| 05:28.47 | Lee__ | is there any documentation of what packages in sid are compiled with gcc 4? |
| 05:29.21 | peterS | Gumby: check /proc/meminfo to be sure |
| 05:29.46 | Gumby | peterS: I did already to be sure |
| 05:29.51 | cheal | Lee__: probably nothing called "documentation". what are you trying to do? |
| 05:30.21 | peterS | Gumby: my next suggestion is the same as my first. don't worry about it, you should not have to touch that file at all |
| 05:30.46 | Lee__ | I think I'm already doing it. I thought there might be a big list. Currently I run 'apt-get -t unstable install package' and see if it wants to upgrade glibc or gcc and if it does, backport it. |
| 05:31.08 | Lee__ | but it would be neato if there was an "authoritative" list of what's been compiled with gcc4 |
| 05:31.23 | doubleukay | howdy |
| 05:31.40 | peterS | Lee__: apt-cache rdepends libstdc++6 |
| 05:31.46 | da_bon_bon | hey all. |
| 05:31.50 | Lee__ | hee, neato |
| 05:31.50 | da_bon_bon | anyone uses checkinstall ? |
| 05:31.54 | peterS | that's pretty authoritative, as far as C++ things go anyway |
| 05:32.10 | Lee__ | peterS: so it's just C++ programs? |
| 05:32.17 | Gumby | peterS: just trying to figure out why my hdd is full and I know /proc is virtual devices, but its the only dir that has anything large in it. things just arent adding up |
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| 05:32.47 | peterS | Lee__: well, obviously gcc is more than just a C++ compiler. but the C compiler produces object code which is completely backward compatible, so nobody really cares whether a C program was compiled with gcc 4 or not |
| 05:33.13 | cheal | I wonder why you're backporting all that |
| 05:33.13 | peterS | Lee__: except that it might be slightly better optimized, or something |
| 05:33.14 | Lee__ | I see. good to know. backporting isn't /that/ painful. |
| 05:33.25 | Lee__ | cheal: all what? |
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| 05:33.49 | cheal | all the packages that match the criteria you mentionned |
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| 05:34.28 | peterS | Lee__: anyway, anything that uses libstdc++5 is compiled with g++ 3.3 or earlier, anything that uses libstdc++6 uses g++ 3.4 or later (usually 4.0). that's the "gcc 4 transition" going on in unstable now |
| 05:34.33 | Lee__ | I'm not. I just thought it'd be helpful to grep through a list to see if I need to backport something. In this case, with libflac, I did. |
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| 05:35.37 | Lee__ | if you're curious, http://www.bleep.com sells music in FLAC format but it's encoded against libflac-1.1.2, which is in only sid, so I can play back the files but I can't transcode them with oggenc. At least that's my theory ATM. |
| 05:35.40 | peterS | Lee__: and if 'ldd /usr/bin/something' shows both libstdc++5 and libstdc++6, the program is broken, because it and its libraries weren't all compiled with compatible versions of g++ |
| 05:35.46 | doleyb | Gumby: du -h --max-depth 2 / |
| 05:36.08 | Gumby | doleyb: already run that to see |
| 05:36.36 | peterS | doleyb: my favorite is 'du -sk * | sort -n', I type that so often I should alias it sometime |
| 05:36.59 | Lee__ | I can transcode flac files to vorbis if I encode them myself with libflac in sarge, so I thought it can't hurt to upgrade the library. |
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| 05:37.17 | peterS | Lee__: sure. I didn't know flac had gone through format changes recently |
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| 05:37.33 | xerophyte | good terminal windows you guys use... i use gnome-terminal i dont like it .. any other better ones and stable one |
| 05:37.37 | pacman | ok, you got me, world. let's just end the joke, all right? ntpd doesn't actually do anything. It was a hoax. A prank. I installed it on so many machines expecting it to correct clock drift... and it never actually worked on any of them. Very funny. |
| 05:37.46 | doleyb | xerophyte: rxvt is the king terminal |
| 05:37.58 | Lee__ | pacman: then your doing it wrong. |
| 05:38.16 | doleyb | pacman: ntpd does do _something_ though, it makes booting take 5 min longer |
| 05:38.25 | Lee__ | pacman: apt-cache show ntp-simple |
| 05:38.30 | doubleukay | pacman, what are you venting about? :) |
| 05:39.02 | peterS | pacman: kernel bug in adjtimex, perhaps? |
| 05:39.02 | FirstLite | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:39.07 | warjest- | ntp works |
| 05:39.07 | pacman | my clock drifted by like 6 minutes in a week, with ntpd running and it never even complained in the log. |
| 05:39.14 | warjest- | yeah you have to restart it |
| 05:39.16 | doubleukay | what's the output of ntpq -c rv -pn |
| 05:39.17 | cheal | Lee__: I'd agree with peterS |
| 05:39.22 | Seb | oh god, I am watching CSI, and they just showed the IP of the criminal, it's something like 353.371.a.b :D |
| 05:39.48 | warjest- | /etc/init.d/ntp* restart |
| 05:39.49 | warjest- | cron it |
| 05:39.51 | peterS | warjest-: why should you have to restart it? the whole *point* of ntpd is to keep track of your clock drift and correct for it continuously |
| 05:39.55 | pacman | Seb, news flash: phone numbers don't start with 555 in the real world either. |
| 05:39.58 | pacman | if I have to fscking restart it then it's not doing its job! it should be install once and FORGET about ever checking your clock for accuracy again. |
| 05:40.03 | doubleukay | yups, no need to restart it. |
| 05:40.03 | emRick | How can I use my ethernet card between two Linux PCs without interfering with my dialup internet connection? |
| 05:40.08 | warjest- | lol.. i agree pacman |
| 05:40.14 | warjest- | let me know if you find a solution |
| 05:40.25 | doubleukay | pacman, what's the output of: ntpq -c rv -pn |
| 05:40.30 | warjest- | emRick: give them 192.168 ip addresses |
| 05:40.32 | pacman | I'm running ntpdate from cron from now on. ntpdate actually does something. |
| 05:40.40 | warjest- | lol |
| 05:40.48 | peterS | he's right, though. ntpdate is quite reliable. |
| 05:40.56 | doleyb | emRick: um, install the cards, run your ppp thnig, then route add specific things just to the other PCs |
| 05:41.06 | pacman | that's a lot of output doubleukay |
| 05:41.18 | Lee__ | OS X's "network time server" is ntpd. |
| 05:41.18 | doubleukay | ahh yes..pastebin it |
| 05:41.22 | warjest- | dont need to do that |
| 05:41.29 | warjest- | once you up your interface it'll add the route |
| 05:41.32 | warjest- | default will be your dialup |
| 05:42.07 | da_bon_bon | whats the best way to make a package for a program which does not have "debian" directory in source ? |
| 05:42.12 | pacman | not important. |
| 05:42.35 | emRick | warjest-: I put an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for "eth0" with IP address 192.168.1.42 ... and I still lost my internet connection. Further, the other machine was not able to "ping 192.168.1.42" anyway. |
| 05:42.39 | Lee__ | da_bon_bon: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.en.html#contents |
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| 05:43.09 | peterS | emRick: make sure you have 'auto eth0' in there too, or 'auto lo eth0' if you want to combine lines |
| 05:43.13 | warjest- | were you using the proper cable between the two, and what was the netmask on the 192.168.*, what did your route tables look like ? |
| 05:43.22 | warjest- | doesnt matter though |
| 05:43.31 | da_bon_bon | thanks, Lee__ |
| 05:43.33 | warjest- | if he ifup's and interface and dialup goes down, something else is an issue |
| 05:43.43 | Lee__ | good luck! what program are you packaging? |
| 05:43.46 | doubleukay | pastebin it --> [04/10 15:41] pacman: that's a lot of output doubleukay |
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| 05:44.00 | gudi | hi |
| 05:44.06 | gudi | anyone here has expirence with tc |
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| 05:44.11 | pacman | I don't do that. and besides, you're just in on the prank, trying to continue it. if you convince me to waste any more time on ntpd everyone can keep laughing. |
| 05:44.15 | gudi | i stuck on a shaping problem |
| 05:44.32 | sep | gudi, ask your real question instead of dooing statistical analysis |
| 05:44.37 | doubleukay | whatever floats your boat, pacman.. |
| 05:44.47 | chemaja | sep: well said :) |
| 05:45.16 | warjest- | emRick: and get broadband! :) |
| 05:45.30 | sep | gudi also there is a #lartc channel,. and the mailinglist. for future reference |
| 05:45.34 | pacman | the sole purpose of installing ntpd is so that your clock stays accurate. It failed. I've seen it do nothing but fail since I first tried it on RedHat 5. Enough. It's gone. |
| 05:45.40 | emRick | warjest-: if I have read "man interfaces" correctly, then I should add: |
| 05:45.40 | emRick | auto eth0 |
| 05:45.40 | emRick | iface eth0 inet static |
| 05:45.40 | emRick | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.40 | emRick | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:45.54 | gudi | ok i have a gateway and a lan behind the gateway. now i want to shape the download. I use imq for that purpose. But how can i throttle the download on the gateway (if gateway downloads) if the lan need the speed ? |
| 05:46.00 | Lee__ | pacman: you should notify the ntpd developers that their software is non-functional. |
| 05:46.17 | bob2 | there's not much throttling you can do on the client side |
| 05:46.18 | Lee__ | because they seem to think it is |
| 05:46.22 | gudi | i want to use htb + sfq for shaping |
| 05:46.24 | warjest- | Lee__: ntpd blows |
| 05:46.27 | doubleukay | it's functional alright. |
| 05:46.34 | Lee__ | good night. |
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| 05:47.14 | sep | gudi, you can only shape how fast you transmit data, you jsut have to recive at whatever speed you get, so to shape download you would shape how fast your internal interface on your gateway transmits data to your lan |
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| 05:47.44 | pacman | whatever. it's sitting there running, its ONLY JOB is to sync the clock. It doesn't sync the clock. It doesn't log any errors. That's not "bug reporting" kind of territory. That's "fuck it, apt-get remove" territory. |
| 05:47.46 | gudi | sep, that is not working ause i need to limit the download of the gateway itself.. |
| 05:47.47 | TigaWork | I'm looking for some help on a HDD based install. I have all the .iso Images on a HDD, and I have loadlin, I also have a FDD. I can't seem to find a way to initiate a HDD install. Any help would be appreciated. |
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| 05:48.05 | jm_ | HDD install is described in installation guide |
| 05:48.09 | sanxiyn | pacman: What is it? |
| 05:48.17 | doubleukay | sanxiyn, he's ranting about ntp. |
| 05:48.22 | doubleukay | *ntpd |
| 05:48.31 | pacman | sanxiyn, ntpd, I've given up on it. It doesn't do anything. I think it's a hoax. |
| 05:48.34 | TigaWork | jm_: I don't see it. |
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| 05:48.39 | sanxiyn | pacman: Really? |
| 05:48.47 | Anjaputo | hi! i have a problem! how can i fix this: |
| 05:48.48 | jm_ | TigaWork: read it again |
| 05:48.49 | Anjaputo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 05:48.49 | Anjaputo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:48.54 | doubleukay | sanxiyn, yes, it doesn't do anything if you don't know how to configure it :) |
| 05:48.55 | TigaWork | jm_: I have, a million times |
| 05:49.03 | peterS | sanxiyn: as he said - it has exactly one job, to sync the local clock. if it can't do that, what can it do? |
| 05:49.07 | sep | Gudi the gateway is dl of the internett ?? what aplications are that running ? |
| 05:49.09 | jm_ | TigaWork: I don't believe you |
| 05:49.33 | gudi | sep, rsync for example |
| 05:49.39 | Seb | Anjaputo: you're using sid ? |
| 05:49.58 | TigaWork | jm_: Under what section does it explain a HDD install ? |
| 05:50.06 | Anjaputo | seb: no! I am using sarge, one day i put testing links to source.list |
| 05:50.07 | sanxiyn | Anjaputo: Seems fixable in usual way. |
| 05:50.08 | jm_ | TigaWork: 4.5 |
| 05:50.11 | gudi | sep, shaping for the lan works perfect.. but i have no idee how to throttle the gateway |
| 05:50.20 | Anjaputo | how can i fix that? |
| 05:50.30 | TigaWork | jm_: 4.5.1. Hard disk installer booting using LILO or GRUB ? |
| 05:50.36 | sanxiyn | Anjaputo: Hold things until it doesn't break. |
| 05:50.37 | Anjaputo | i think i need to downgrade the progrm's version right? |
| 05:50.58 | pacman | and I don't see where the flaw is in the "cron ntpdate" plan either. it's not like the clock is dead; it's just a little fast. Cron will run the job. |
| 05:51.10 | Anjaputo | sanxiyn: sorry dont understan.d.... |
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| 05:51.23 | maher | gudi: is the gateway a debian box? run shaper on it |
| 05:51.33 | Marsian | hey, I am installing debian from scratch and it said that it couldnt verify the packages...does anyone know why that is? |
| 05:51.35 | gudi | maher, yes it is.. |
| 05:51.35 | sanxiyn | pacman: From what I heard, NTP daemon is supposed to prevent clock going backward. |
| 05:51.47 | gudi | maher, what is better with shaper then use tc ? |
| 05:51.47 | maher | gudi: you can't control what comes at you off the net but you can control what you pass on |
| 05:51.47 | sanxiyn | pacman: Which "cron ntpdate" doesn't do. |
| 05:51.49 | peterS | sanxiyn: so does ntpdate if you run it often enough |
| 05:51.52 | TigaWork | jm_: I don't have Grub nor Lilo. |
| 05:52.03 | maher | gudi: use whichever one you like |
| 05:52.04 | bob2 | Marsian: your cd is incorrect |
| 05:52.06 | peterS | sanxiyn: RTFM on ntpdate. if the error is less than 0.5 seconds, it slews the clock rather than stepping it |
| 05:52.07 | gudi | maher, with imq its possible.. www.linuximq.net |
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| 05:52.14 | sanxiyn | peterS: That's great. |
| 05:52.22 | Marsian | bob2: Via ftp.us.debian.org |
| 05:52.42 | bob2 | Marsian: doesn't matter where you got it from |
| 05:52.43 | TigaWork | jm_: I don't see anywhere in that section where it explains how to install to HDD. |
| 05:52.49 | maher | gudi: you have no control over what packets people send you... |
| 05:52.51 | bob2 | Marsian: check the md5sum of the .iso you downloaded |
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| 05:53.02 | gudi | maher, read www.linuximq.net |
| 05:53.15 | gudi | it is possible.. maybe not the perfect solution but it works |
| 05:53.18 | maher | gudi: i don't need to read anything to know what i just said |
| 05:53.21 | TigaWork | Okay, can anybody offer me some REAL help with a HDD based install ? |
| 05:53.24 | pacman | hmm... backward steps are theoretically bad, I agree, but since ntpd doesn't actually do anything, what happens with ntpd is the clock gets so far ahead that I look at it and say "WHAT THE FUCK" and then I have to backward-step it by 5 minutes |
| 05:53.25 | Marsian | bob2: I am not using the iso anymore. The base installation is complete and the cd is no longer used. |
| 05:53.56 | gudi | maher, imq just add a virtual interface where you can redirect traffic to so you can throttle on the interface |
| 05:54.06 | da_bon_bon | Marsian: are you trying to install unstable ? |
| 05:54.09 | Marsian | I am trying to install stuff via Apt such as blackbox, bitchx, links etc. |
| 05:54.11 | peterS | pacman: yeah, if you run ntpdate often enough it speeds up / slows down the clock using the same mechanism ntpd uses (the adjtime call). the threshhold for when to give up and just jump to the right time is +- 0.5 seconds |
| 05:54.15 | sep | gudi, then i have no clue, i guess the lartch guyes would know. |
| 05:54.16 | Marsian | da_bon_bon: Yes. |
| 05:54.23 | simonrvn | TigaWork: um, it's like it's hard... boot from cd/floppy, run installer, done |
| 05:54.30 | da_bon_bon | Marsian: did you add the required keys ? man apt-key |
| 05:54.31 | simonrvn | TigaWork: not like it's* |
| 05:54.34 | TigaWork | simonrvn: if I could do that, I worl. |
| 05:54.35 | TigaWork | would. |
| 05:54.37 | gudi | sep, im allready in the channel but it quite dead ;-( |
| 05:54.38 | TigaWork | I cannot. |
| 05:54.43 | sanxiyn | simonrvn: Not that... |
| 05:54.44 | Marsian | da_bon_bon: Didn't know there was a key. |
| 05:54.49 | TigaWork | HDD install is the only option I have. |
| 05:54.54 | sanxiyn | simonrvn: Installing from ISO image on HDD, without floppy/CD-ROM. |
| 05:55.05 | sanxiyn | (Which is, I heard, possible with d-i.) |
| 05:55.08 | TigaWork | sanxiyn: I need to do that, and I don't have Grub nor Lilo... |
| 05:55.11 | simonrvn | of course |
| 05:55.24 | da_bon_bon | Marsian: there must keys for every repo, when you use apt 0.6 |
| 05:55.25 | doubleukay | that's all good. but if there's transient spikes, ntpdate won't help at all.. --> "if the error is less than 0.5 seconds, it slews the clock rather than stepping it" |
| 05:55.48 | sep | gudi, the mailinglist is a safer bet, but the lartc.org page and docs already ahve it documented i bet |
| 05:55.54 | sanxiyn | simonrvn: So you can explain that to TigaWork :-) |
| 05:55.56 | TigaWork | sanxiyn, simonrvn: Can either of you help in this matter ? |
| 05:56.01 | TigaWork | Yeah, please. |
| 05:56.04 | TigaWork | I'm like, battling here. |
| 05:56.05 | simonrvn | install guide can |
| 05:56.06 | sanxiyn | TigaWork: I am afraid I can't. |
| 05:56.07 | Marsian | da_bon_bon: Should I update apt then? |
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| 05:56.11 | TigaWork | simonrvn: Where man ? |
| 05:56.14 | pacman | whatever. ntpd forces me to step the clock backward manually (because you have to freaking kill ntpd before ntpdate will work) resulting in much BIGGER backward jumps than a simple every-15-minute cron job will do |
| 05:56.15 | peterS | doubleukay: if the clock just runs a bit fast, it's just a matter of determining how often you need to cron ntpdate to keep the error within that range |
| 05:56.18 | gudi | sep, i allready read it .. but no example like this |
| 05:56.21 | da_bon_bon | Marsian: no. use apt-key to install the gpg keys for the repos. |
| 05:56.41 | pacman | that's the one tangible, measurable result of ntpd running: ntpdate refuses to work. |
| 05:57.02 | TigaWork | PEople say it's in the install guide... but it isn't... |
| 05:57.06 | sanxiyn | pacman: It seems that ntpd doesn't work there then. Too bad. |
| 05:57.16 | TigaWork | 4.5 is a preface for the 4.5 section |
| 05:57.18 | maher | pacman: how bad is your clock? running ntpdate in cron.daily is the most often i've had to do it |
| 05:57.22 | Marsian | da_bon_bon: where do I get the gpg keys? And why does my current debian box not need that? |
| 05:57.22 | TigaWork | 4.5.1 is about using lilo and grub. |
| 05:57.24 | da_bon_bon | Marsian: i dont know how to do it step by step, i am on testing. read somewhere on net for further references. |
| 05:57.30 | sep | gudi what about the shapecfg package ? a shaped virtual interface |
| 05:57.54 | sanxiyn | TigaWork: Well, it must be there? You can search yourself :-) |
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| 05:58.07 | TigaWork | sanxiyn: Thanks, but you haven't offered any useful help. |
| 05:58.18 | gudi | sep, never see this will have a look |
| 05:58.21 | pacman | maher, I didn't keep track of exactly how long it was, but a few days ago I had to do a backward step of at least 6 minutes, and my uptime _now_ is only 14 days. So I'm gaining at least 30 seconds a day. |
| 05:58.39 | doubleukay | peterS, that doesn't account for periods of one-way congestion (e.g. doing heavy downloads). happens often enough on residential links. |
| 05:58.46 | maher | pacman: how accurate do you need to be |
| 05:58.49 | usn_router | good morning |
| 05:58.53 | pacman | and when I did that backward step I restarted ntpd, and today I see it had already crept back up to 26 seconds drift |
| 05:58.58 | Marsian | da_bon_bon: Why does my current unstable debian box not need the key? |
| 05:59.15 | TigaWork | possiblty, I can use the parameters from 5.1.2 for loadlin... |
| 05:59.20 | peterS | doubleukay: why would one-way network congestion affect the speed of your system clock? |
| 05:59.36 | da_bon_bon | Marsian: it *needs* the key, so that it can authenticate the packages. apt 0.5 doesnt, 0.6 does. and 0.6 is in unstable |
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| 05:59.43 | maher | peterS: when the machine is loaded it slows the clock down... |
| 05:59.46 | Marsian | ahh |
| 05:59.48 | doubleukay | peterS, it affects the reading off the ntp server. |
| 05:59.48 | TigaWork | OR maybe not. |
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| 06:00.15 | Marsian | da_bon_bon: Thank you. I haven't updated this box in a while and hadn't run into this problem. Thanks for the help. |
| 06:00.19 | gudi | sep, thx for the package but it don't allow to borrow bandwith.. i will try the lartc mailinglist |
| 06:00.20 | doubleukay | since it assumes latency is symmetrical, it can subtract half the round-trip-time from the ntp server's time reply to get the current time. |
| 06:00.21 | pacman | "need" is too strong a word. why do I need a clock on my computer at all? I could set it to 1989, then take 12 hours off the correct time of day, and I'd probably still be fine. |
| 06:00.22 | peterS | maher: shouldn't, unless you start to miss interrupts |
| 06:00.27 | TigaWork | Everything I've tried results in a Kernel panic, unable to mount the root filesystem. |
| 06:00.34 | maher | peterS: i was joking... |
| 06:00.34 | da_bon_bon | Marsian: no problem. glad to be of help :) |
| 06:00.39 | sanxiyn | Shit this damn 70M big C source file is compiling for 25 minutes now. |
| 06:00.50 | peterS | sanxiyn: are you compiling stalin.c? |
| 06:00.57 | sanxiyn | peterS: Something similar. |
| 06:01.04 | pacman | I do keep my CPU and network as saturated as possible :) that probably exaggerates the drift. |
| 06:01.11 | TigaWork | sanxiyn: I can't find it anywhere in the docs. Please, show me ? |
| 06:01.12 | maher | pacman: ok - run it in cron.daily - for example if you're running make over nfs it really helps to have the clocks in sync |
| 06:01.36 | sanxiyn | TigaWork: Sorry, I really can't launch the browser now, compiling. (See above) |
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| 06:02.24 | TigaWork | Sheesh, no help here. |
| 06:03.02 | Staz | Hey there, I have installed Debian and can login as root from the console, but I was wondering how do I use the GUI as root? |
| 06:03.18 | maher | Staz: you don't - use su from a terminal and ask dpkg about sux |
| 06:03.22 | Staz | for example I cant copy files to particular folders etc |
| 06:03.30 | Seb | Staz: use sudo |
| 06:03.31 | sanxiyn | Staz: You don't. |
| 06:03.34 | Staz | thanks maher |
| 06:03.35 | da_bon_bon | is there any way to get kde 3.4 in testing ? not using the unstable's packages ? |
| 06:03.52 | gudi | da_bon_bon, compile it ;-) |
| 06:04.08 | da_bon_bon | gudi: it wil take HOURS on my piii 550mhz box |
| 06:04.10 | Seb | dpkg, tell da_bon_bon about backports |
| 06:04.38 | sanxiyn | da_bon_bon: New KDE won't be in testing for a rather long time. |
| 06:04.53 | da_bon_bon | thanks, Seb |
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| 06:04.58 | da_bon_bon | sanxiyn: long time like ? |
| 06:05.27 | sanxiyn | !tell da_bon_bon about why is kdebase not in testing |
| 06:05.29 | da_bon_bon | Seb: i am on testing. so i dont think i must use backports.org |
| 06:05.37 | Seb | da_bon_bon: yes |
| 06:05.55 | da_bon_bon | sanxiyn: i know WHY kdebase is not in testing. read that a dozen of times. when will it be in testing ? |
| 06:06.05 | sep | da_bon_bon, when it's ready |
| 06:06.12 | da_bon_bon | Seb: yes as in "yes i must not use" or as in "yes i must use" |
| 06:06.16 | da_bon_bon | sep: silly answer. |
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| 06:06.24 | Seb | da_bon_bon: yes you can use it |
| 06:06.25 | peterS | da_bon_bon: it's the only answer |
| 06:06.28 | sep | da_bon_bon, it's the bloddy truth. like it or not |
| 06:06.32 | da_bon_bon | ok, Seb |
| 06:06.32 | Seb | da_bon_bon: nah, he's perfectly right |
| 06:06.39 | da_bon_bon | peterS: the typical debian answer :) |
| 06:06.56 | da_bon_bon | Seb: well, if he is not a developer, why cant he jsut say "i dont know" ? |
| 06:07.03 | peterS | da_bon_bon: obviously you already know how to use the testing script at bjorn.haxx.se. why don't you track the dependency tree it gives you and figure out how long each component will take? |
| 06:07.24 | sanxiyn | peterS: Well, it's hard to estimate how long gcc-4.0 migration will take... |
| 06:07.25 | TigaWork | Can anybody help me with a HDD install, .iso images in a fat32 partition, no grub/lilo only DOS and loadlin? |
| 06:07.29 | peterS | da_bon_bon: if you don't think you can make a reasonable estimate about those things, we probably can't either |
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| 06:07.45 | da_bon_bon | peterS: ok. |
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| 06:07.52 | Staz | how can I use su to control the gui as root? |
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| 06:08.05 | sanxiyn | Staz: Again, you don't. |
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| 06:08.14 | Seb | Staz: you use sudo |
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| 06:08.24 | Staz | how to use sudo then? :) |
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| 06:08.35 | sime_ | is it possible to add to a closed bug ? |
| 06:08.47 | sanxiyn | sime_: Yes, if it isn't archived. |
| 06:08.50 | sanxiyn | sime_: You can reopen it too. |
| 06:08.58 | sep | Staz, you wanbt to run a grafical program as root ? install and use sux (su with x) |
| 06:09.26 | pacman | is it just me or does fbcon completely omit support for the vt100 ^[[5m blink code? |
| 06:09.35 | Staz | basically I want to be able to do things, stop getting permisson denied in the gui when trying to copy files etc |
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| 06:09.50 | sanxiyn | Staz: Why do you get permission error for copying files? |
| 06:10.01 | Staz | no idea |
| 06:10.06 | Staz | just trying to copy a file to /etc |
| 06:10.11 | irevernetReveren | I am trying to use the ipw2200 drivers, and get my intel 2915ABG working. I have installed teh ipw2200 module, and the ieee80211 module, and have successfully "loaded" them. I am getting a "no such device" error when I try to do things like "ifup wlan0" |
| 06:10.14 | irevernetReveren | any advice? |
| 06:10.50 | bob2 | dmesg |
| 06:10.52 | pacman | Staz, stop being a wuss. You're root? learn to use proper unix tools. graphical file managers are crap to placate the lusers. Root is the sysadmin, he's supposed to know what he's doing and not need X. |
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| 06:11.09 | Staz | lol pacman fair enogh |
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| 06:11.26 | maher | irevernetReveren: try iwconfig |
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| 06:11.55 | bob2 | Staz: when would you need to copy files to /etc/ using a file manager? |
| 06:12.00 | irevernetReveren | bob2 : dmesg outputs things like "ipw2200: U ipw_wx_get_rate GET Rate -> 0" and other similar things... |
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| 06:12.24 | Staz | bob2 : a tutorial Im following tell me to put a .conf file there |
| 06:12.29 | pacman | XOpenDisplay should assert(getuid()), it would end a lot of stupidity |
| 06:12.34 | bob2 | irevernetReveren: so, you need to show us |
| 06:12.39 | bob2 | Staz: a tutorial for what? |
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| 06:12.52 | Staz | setting up an FTP server |
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| 06:12.56 | Staz | glftpd |
| 06:12.59 | bob2 | so |
| 06:13.01 | bob2 | stop |
| 06:13.05 | bob2 | and install vsftpd |
| 06:13.06 | Guerin | Staz: unde everything you've done |
| 06:13.09 | Guerin | undo |
| 06:13.10 | Staz | lol |
| 06:13.16 | Guerin | and install vsftpd |
| 06:13.18 | zog-vsl | anybody know a program that can overlay 2 postscript files to produce one ps file ? |
| 06:13.19 | sanxiyn | !dbugs 330595 |
| 06:13.19 | Guerin | like the man sayd |
| 06:13.22 | dpkg | #330595:S[gcc-4.0] Miscompilation with -fomit-frame-pointer -O3 -funroll-all-loops; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:33:12 UTC |
| 06:13.26 | sanxiyn | ... What is this? |
| 06:13.36 | Guerin | sanxiyn: a lost gentoobie |
| 06:13.36 | bob2 | haha |
| 06:13.37 | da_bon_bon | if i use and icon by the direct name "mplayer-desktop.xpm" in a mplayer.desktop file, where msut i keep the xpm, so that it will be found ? |
| 06:13.38 | sanxiyn | Is this a joke? |
| 06:13.41 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: Are you trying to get wireless on an Intel Pro 2915 perchance? |
| 06:13.59 | irevernetReveren | Marsian: yes, exactly |
| 06:14.03 | Guerin | da_bon_bon: most of them live in /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons |
| 06:14.10 | da_bon_bon | Guerin: thanks :) |
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| 06:14.42 | sanxiyn | #330595 was filed as "serious". |
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| 06:14.54 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: Good luck.http://www.stanford.edu/~rashmisu/GentooInspiron6000.html |
| 06:14.59 | Marsian | That helped me quite a bit. |
| 06:15.07 | Marsian | http://www.stanford.edu/~rashmisu/GentooInspiron6000.html |
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| 06:15.29 | irevernetReveren | Marsian, thanks! |
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| 06:15.50 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: Most of the stuff on emerge is on Apt as well. |
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| 06:16.37 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: You need the wireless-tools package |
| 06:16.50 | irevernetReveren | Marsian, got it working, thanks! |
| 06:16.52 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: then use iwconfig option setting. |
| 06:16.58 | rue_more | hello |
| 06:17.13 | sanxiyn | Gentoo claims to have >10000 ebuilds. |
| 06:17.17 | Marsian | Good to know it worked. Did it give you internet or just bind to router? |
| 06:17.20 | irevernetReveren | Marsian the trouble appears that it is using eth2, and NOT wlan0, AND eth1 does not exist.... |
| 06:17.23 | rue_more | what is the utility one would use to effectivly modify ones gnome-session ? |
| 06:17.27 | sanxiyn | Last time I checked, Debian didn't have 10000 source packages. |
| 06:17.27 | irevernetReveren | been working on this for hours... |
| 06:17.32 | Guerin | sanxiyn: most of which are unsupported |
| 06:17.32 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: Yeah, that too. |
| 06:17.41 | rue_more | I need to change my window manager and ... whatever nautilus is |
| 06:17.50 | Guerin | sanxiyn: sid has over 16,000 binary backages |
| 06:18.03 | irevernetReveren | how do i get eth2 to rename to wlan0? |
| 06:18.05 | Marsian | rue_more: nano |
| 06:18.08 | sanxiyn | Guerin: But since all Gentoo ebuilds are source packages, that's not fair comparison. |
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| 06:18.15 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: I believe you alias it |
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| 06:18.26 | maher | zog-vsl: that's trick as most ps documents think they have whiterather than transparent backgrounds |
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| 06:18.35 | Guerin | sanxiyn: but they only build one binary package-equivalent |
| 06:18.37 | Guerin | each |
| 06:18.38 | maher | irevernetReveren: ifrename |
| 06:18.42 | irevernetReveren | Marsian any word on where? |
| 06:18.46 | irevernetReveren | maher, thanks |
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| 06:19.11 | rue_more | Marsian, ha, cmon... |
| 06:19.15 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: man interfaces |
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| 06:19.38 | Marsian | irevernetReveren: That is about all I know. |
| 06:19.38 | rue_more | Marsian, there IS a utility to officialy change it, right? I know I can edit the file, I dotn want to |
| 06:19.47 | sanxiyn | Hm, "gentoo-portage.com" reports, "10142 packages". |
| 06:20.11 | Marsian | rue_more: I am sure there is. But I use nano to edit everything. |
| 06:20.17 | rue_more | besides, my profile dosn't seemt o have a gnome-session file, I dont know why |
| 06:20.25 | rue_more | I use vi and nedit |
| 06:20.27 | sanxiyn | Still, I wouldn't be surprised if (say) only 60% of Debian/Gentoo packages overlap, and both contains many many packages the other doesn't have. |
| 06:20.38 | Marsian | rue_more: I am sure it does. |
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| 06:20.43 | Marsian | You probably just haven't found it. |
| 06:20.53 | rue_more | sigh |
| 06:21.01 | Marsian | sorry |
| 06:21.19 | Marsian | What are you trying to edit though? |
| 06:21.20 | rue_more | I want my enlightenment back, metacity sucks |
| 06:21.28 | sanxiyn | Oh, w3m is great to run under heavy load... |
| 06:21.35 | rue_more | and I want GMC back, nautilus sucks |
| 06:21.41 | Marsian | GMC? |
| 06:21.49 | sanxiyn | Marsian: Midnight Commander. |
| 06:21.51 | Guerin | gnome midnight commander? |
| 06:21.51 | rue_more | midnight commander |
| 06:22.10 | rue_more | yes |
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| 06:22.20 | Marsian | I love how nautilus will start up a suedo gnome session if I try to launch it from BlackBox |
| 06:22.35 | Guerin | gnomeware is an infestation |
| 06:22.37 | rue_more | ok, restarting X... brb |
| 06:22.43 | rue_more | I agree |
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| 06:22.50 | Guerin | use one app, and all fo a sudden you're running practically a whole DE |
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| 06:23.23 | jm_ | it's the same with KDE |
| 06:23.30 | Guerin | yeah |
| 06:23.34 | sanxiyn | I actually like kdeinit. |
| 06:23.54 | jm_ | they both have some nice apps, but I won't use them if they start 100M worth of processes |
| 06:23.54 | sanxiyn | (Launching it at the beginning of GNOME session.) |
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| 06:24.29 | rue_more | ooo firfox looks good |
| 06:24.31 | sanxiyn | With kdeinit KDE apps start fast. |
| 06:24.42 | pacman | ratpoison is nice, I just wish it would respect -geometry flags |
| 06:24.47 | sanxiyn | rue_more: Does firfox have lots of fir |
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| 06:24.58 | rue_more | hah |
| 06:25.03 | Guerin | i ditched ratpoison and ion for evilwm |
| 06:25.14 | Guerin | i like having windows that are resizable |
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| 06:25.23 | sanxiyn | Or fur... |
| 06:25.25 | sanxiyn | Furfox. |
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| 06:26.25 | jm_ | heh those minimalistic window managers aren't that smaller compared to something with more features |
| 06:26.39 | rue_more | ok, so gnome-session isn't creating me a session file... |
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| 06:27.26 | rue_more | hmm |
| 06:27.48 | caphuso | ion isn't exactly minimalistic |
| 06:27.52 | Marsian | Eh, I just use blackbox |
| 06:28.00 | Marsian | unless someone has another suggestion? |
| 06:28.08 | jm_ | no, but evilwm is |
| 06:28.26 | LukeK | I like fluxbox better than black, but that's just personal opinion. Small differences here and there |
| 06:28.40 | Marsian | LukeK: Such as? |
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| 06:28.55 | Guerin | openbox > *box |
| 06:29.03 | rue_more | it says its going to upgrade my old gnome profile and then dosn't |
| 06:29.04 | jm_ | so openbox > openbox? :) |
| 06:29.07 | LukeK | Eh openbox was ok |
| 06:29.09 | Guerin | jm_: yes. |
| 06:29.18 | rue_more | and I see a file called |
| 06:29.21 | Agrajag- | enlightenment dr17 is looking promising in terms of speed |
| 06:29.23 | rue_more | debian-upgrade-declined |
| 06:29.27 | rue_more | in .gnome2 |
| 06:29.33 | sanxiyn | Guerin: > shall be antireflexive... |
| 06:29.46 | rue_more | enlightenment WAY outpreforms metacity |
| 06:29.48 | sanxiyn | (And antisymmetric, for that matter.) |
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| 06:30.00 | rue_more | dragging is a pig in this |
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| 06:30.26 | LukeK | I've become addicted to the workspace mouse scrolling |
| 06:30.39 | rue_more | and whats up with the windows style useless- doubleclick the header to toggle maximize thing???? |
| 06:30.41 | pacman | heh... evilwm's movement keys are like /usr/games/robots :) |
| 06:30.45 | Marsian | LukeK: New BlackBox has that. |
| 06:30.51 | LukeK | cool |
| 06:31.00 | LukeK | I haven't kept up with blackbox in the past months |
| 06:31.07 | LukeK | Does it have window tabbing and what not? |
| 06:31.17 | Marsian | Window tabbing? |
| 06:31.19 | Marsian | Explain. |
| 06:31.24 | Marsian | (So probably not :-P) |
| 06:31.30 | LukeK | http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/features/tabs.php |
| 06:31.39 | Guerin | Marsian: sure. alt-<tab><tab><tab> ... |
| 06:31.49 | Phated | Heh. |
| 06:31.56 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Not that, I think. |
| 06:32.01 | LukeK | the tabbing's usability and functionality is debatable. I don't use it a whole lot but I could see it as being useful |
| 06:32.28 | Guerin | that said, i run, at most, two terminals and a browser |
| 06:32.40 | sanxiyn | Guerin: How many tabs in the browser? :-) |
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| 06:32.54 | Guerin | sanxiyn: as many as firefox will handle before crashing |
| 06:32.55 | rue_more | ok it says it CANT upgrade my odl profile |
| 06:32.56 | rue_more | ok |
| 06:32.59 | Guerin | which is surprisingly many |
| 06:33.15 | sanxiyn | Firefox crashes a lot for me :( |
| 06:33.20 | jm_ | heh 33 terminals opened right now, 30 of which are mrxvt |
| 06:33.31 | Guerin | crashes a lot for my wife, too. I blame flash. |
| 06:33.47 | Marsian | LukeK: I don't think it has that. |
| 06:33.55 | Guerin | jm_: i just use nested screens |
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| 06:34.09 | caphuso | i've cut down the amount of xterms ever since ion3 got the scratchpad |
| 06:34.11 | Guerin | keeping track of the a's can be tricky |
| 06:34.17 | rue_more | will mxvrt do dark backgrounds? |
| 06:34.23 | jm_ | Guerin: that's mega annoying |
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| 06:34.28 | sanxiyn | Guerin: You need some screenrc love. |
| 06:34.36 | Guerin | jm_: yeah. I wish there was a sane way round it. |
| 06:34.43 | rue_more | ion3? |
| 06:34.58 | Guerin | i have a status bar at the bottom, so I can tell how nested I am |
| 06:35.07 | sanxiyn | Good... |
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| 06:35.45 | streuner | rue_more: window manager |
| 06:36.01 | Guerin | or ctrl-esc |
| 06:36.06 | rue_more | ok |
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| 06:36.17 | Marsian | What is mxvrt? |
| 06:36.18 | caphuso | Guerin: neither will work, AFAICT |
| 06:36.28 | Guerin | caphuso: oh, special keys? |
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| 06:36.48 | sanxiyn | Marsian: A terminal emulator. |
| 06:37.03 | Marsian | terminal...emulator? |
| 06:37.05 | sanxiyn | !info mrxvt |
| 06:37.10 | dpkg | mrxvt: (lightweight multi-tabbed X terminal emulator), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 120 kB, Installed size: 328 kB |
| 06:37.20 | Guerin | it's just so stupid that gnu screen's activation key is the same as the "go to start of line" key in gnu emacs and gnu bash |
| 06:37.59 | pacman | GNU screen's movement keys in the cut-and-paste mode are vi keys, not emacs keys. GNU screen is a rebel! |
| 06:38.00 | caphuso | Guerin: well, alt+<whatever> typically sends ESC followed by <whatever>, so alt-ESC would be a double escape. and escape is already a control char, so using using ctrl-ESC to make it a control char is kinda redundant |
| 06:38.15 | Guerin | caphuso: ah, i see. |
| 06:38.16 | nkuttler | Guerin: man screen, search for escape |
| 06:38.38 | caphuso | ctrl-z is often used instead |
| 06:39.09 | Guerin | yeah, that makes sense |
| 06:39.11 | caphuso | or ctrl-o, which nothing i've ever seen has a useful key binding bound to |
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| 06:40.19 | xerophyte | does anybody know any good kate replace for gnome |
| 06:40.24 | rue_more | back under I go.... |
| 06:40.26 | Guerin | xerophyte: kate |
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| 06:40.35 | Guerin | xerophyte: a perfect kate replacement, in fact |
| 06:40.40 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Just run kate in GNOME. |
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| 06:40.51 | Guerin | sanxiyn: thanks. |
| 06:40.59 | Guerin | i'll stick with emacs |
| 06:40.59 | sanxiyn | Oops. |
| 06:41.13 | sanxiyn | xerophyte: You may want to try scite. |
| 06:41.32 | caphuso | my brain still feels warped :-/ |
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| 06:42.14 | xerophyte | sanxiyn, actually i dont have KDE lib installed i wanna use something gnome |
| 06:42.31 | sanxiyn | xerophyte: I already answered, then. |
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| 06:47.24 | fireba11 | morning everyone |
| 06:47.35 | gpm | hi guys. i'm using flashplugin-nonfree with firefox (in sid) and everything's fine except no sound in flash movies...anyone have any clues as to why? i checked out bts |
| 06:47.57 | jab_ | anyone know about problems installing eclipse? |
| 06:47.58 | jm_ | check if something else is using the sound device |
| 06:48.07 | jab_ | specifically: !ENTRY org.eclipse.update.configurator 2005-10-04 02:43:38.164 |
| 06:48.08 | jab_ | !MESSAGE Could not load from shared install |
| 06:48.08 | jab_ | !STACK 0 |
| 06:48.08 | jab_ | java.lang.Exception |
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| 06:48.11 | gpm | jm_: how? |
| 06:48.33 | gpm | (alsa) |
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| 06:49.09 | jm_ | gpm: lsof is a good option |
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| 06:49.19 | simonrvn | @tell jab_ -about paster |
| 06:49.22 | simonrvn | .... |
| 06:49.57 | gpm | jm_: so like, lsof|grep alsa? |
| 06:51.20 | hyperstream | say i have a new pci/pcie mobo (amd 64) but no pcie graphics card, could i use a old as pci graphics card instead?(until i buy a new one thats all) |
| 06:51.38 | ke6isf | simonrvn: Guess he didn't really need help. |
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| 06:52.19 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
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| 06:53.05 | Guerin | bah, my stupid boss wants me to make some meaningless comments which will be ignored anyway on recent happenings. |
| 06:53.22 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Which recent happening |
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| 06:53.29 | gpm | jm_: well, that showed a few things: gaim, gnome-set and mixer_app are all using an alsa lib (or a gstreamer alsa lib) |
| 06:53.36 | Guerin | and she';s given me only her hanmail address, and hanmail rejects my mail because their mail sevrers are broken |
| 06:53.42 | sep | is it sane that evolution is running off with 50% mem (from top) 512 total on box. i guess there is a loot of mails in there in some 20ish subirs |
| 06:53.42 | Guerin | sanxiyn: just work stuff. |
| 06:53.56 | simonrvn | and do nothing about spam... |
| 06:53.56 | Guerin | so now I have to try to remember my damn gmail password |
| 06:53.58 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Only sure way to mail hanmail is to send mail from hanmail. |
| 06:54.07 | Guerin | sanxiyn: hah |
| 06:54.08 | sanxiyn | Eh, gmail doesn't seem to be blocked, too. |
| 06:54.50 | sanxiyn | (hanmail used to mangle gmail-sent mails with Korean subjects (which most mails to hanmail have)) |
| 06:54.57 | jm_ | gpm: not lib, the device |
| 06:55.19 | Guerin | bah, it's so broken |
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| 06:55.39 | gpm | jm_: so like, lsof|grep snd? |
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| 06:56.01 | Guerin | would you believe that one of my canadian friends defended hanmail's broken mail system on the grounds that most koreans only talk to other koreans anyway, and therefore needn't be functional to other users |
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| 06:56.12 | jm_ | gpm: something like that yes |
| 06:56.13 | Guerin | "let them develop their own email culture" he said |
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| 06:56.15 | Aaron_ | hello |
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| 06:56.21 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Ugh. |
| 06:56.25 | Aaron_ | can someone help me install gnome? |
| 06:56.28 | sanxiyn | Guerin: I'd say, even Koreans don't like hanmail much. |
| 06:56.31 | gpm | jm_: mixer_app is using /dev/snd/controlC0 |
| 06:56.33 | sep | Aaron_, aptitude install gnome |
| 06:56.42 | Aaron_ | and thats it? |
| 06:56.44 | Guerin | sanxiyn: they don't like hanmail like americans don't like hotmail. |
| 06:56.47 | gpm | Aaron_: or gnome-core or gnome-desktop-environment |
| 06:56.55 | gpm | Aaron_: yes, that's the beauty of debian |
| 06:56.57 | sep | Aaron_, how you install gnome |
| 06:56.59 | sanxiyn | Guerin: I don't know how americans don't like hotmail. |
| 06:57.09 | Aaron_ | how do you run gnome after? |
| 06:57.09 | Guerin | sanxiyn: like koreans don't like hanmail :) |
| 06:57.18 | gpm | Aaron_: add gnome-session to .xinitrc |
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| 06:57.26 | sanxiyn | Aaron_: From some display manager. |
| 06:57.27 | gpm | Aaron_: or use gdm |
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| 06:57.35 | sep | Aaron_, aptitude install gdm and reboot |
| 06:57.41 | sep | Aaron_, or just restart gdm |
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| 06:58.00 | gpm | sep: restart!? |
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| 06:58.30 | jm_ | gpm: maybe flash is using OSS device, check that too |
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| 06:58.40 | simonrvn | what? reboot? what did you smoke? |
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| 06:59.08 | sep | simonrvn, a switch that i'v been fighting with for 2 weeks. the official solution... was a reboot |
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| 06:59.30 | sep | simonrvn, or basicaly i typed before i thought, since i do some windows support also |
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| 06:59.43 | simonrvn | sep: oh ok. that explains it ;) |
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| 07:00.13 | gpm | jm_: lsof|grep dsp shows nothing... |
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| 07:01.25 | jm_ | gpm: well you could strace it too and see if it fails to open the device file |
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| 07:02.28 | sep | what is the evolution-data-server-1.0 ? now it's eating 2% mem, after a week it's eaten 50% mem (top output) and the thing dont die when you close evolution, you must kill it in a shell |
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| 07:02.52 | gpm | jm_: strace on firefox? i don't think flashplugin has a binary it runs... |
| 07:03.21 | jm_ | gpm: yeah, unfortunatelly that's what you'll have to do |
| 07:03.23 | gpm | d'oh |
| 07:03.26 | gpm | ok |
| 07:03.42 | jm_ | alternatively just configure dmix and see if starts working |
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| 07:04.23 | gpm | jm_: how does one configure dmix? |
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| 07:04.53 | jm_ | gpm: /msg dpkg dmix |
| 07:05.05 | jm_ | sblive++ ;) |
| 07:05.17 | jm_ | old sblive mind you, not the new crap they have now |
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| 07:07.05 | gpm | jm_: you know, i'm just going to wager that it was trying to open /dev/dsp, because i didn't enable oss compatibility in my kernel conf. i'd actually rather recompile the kernel than deal with strace |
| 07:07.07 | Guerin | the stupidest thing about this is that i'm supposed to submit my comments to my boss in english - which she doesn't understand. |
| 07:07.10 | gpm | especially of firefox |
| 07:07.21 | Guerin | i might as well copy and paste something out of War and Peace |
| 07:07.35 | jm_ | gpm: sure, you could also just watch for open calls with strace |
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| 07:08.07 | nevyn | gpm: strace is pretty simple |
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| 07:08.22 | nevyn | strace app|grep -4 dsp |
| 07:08.27 | nevyn | and you should see it. |
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| 07:09.08 | gpm | thanks guys. |
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| 07:09.14 | gpm | i'll learn strace eventually. |
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| 07:09.25 | dorto | how to change the login to a different user when accessing samba shares from nautilus (or knoqueror or windows xp)? |
| 07:09.44 | dorto | it asked the first time and its not asking when i closed and restarted nautilus |
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| 07:14.22 | Nems | What does this mean... E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
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| 07:14.35 | nkuttler_ | !tell Nems about e2fsprogs |
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| 07:15.41 | candle | hi |
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| 07:16.42 | simonrvn | lemme guess, woody->sarge upgrade |
| 07:17.01 | nkuttler | woody->testing/sid rather |
| 07:17.03 | caphuso | woody->etch |
| 07:17.06 | Nems | woody->sid... but i've dist-upgraded it many times before |
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| 07:17.14 | simonrvn | ah |
| 07:17.14 | caphuso | if it's woody->sid, then i'm going to beat him up |
| 07:17.24 | ke6isf | caphuso: Commence beating. |
| 07:17.29 | fireba11 | lol |
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| 07:17.44 | caphuso | *smack* *smack* |
| 07:17.47 | Nems | recommendations? |
| 07:17.52 | caphuso | Nems: don't |
| 07:17.57 | nkuttler | Nems: read the damned bug report |
| 07:18.04 | caphuso | you're not apt enough to run unstable, so please don't |
| 07:18.12 | candle | Nems: you running woody? |
| 07:18.29 | Nems | candle: technically, yes... |
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| 07:18.45 | candle | Nems: how come? |
| 07:19.03 | Nems | candle: It was the only cd I could find lying around 6 months ago? |
| 07:19.12 | bazz | i'm trying to install hfsplus and apt wants to upgrade e2fsprogs, but it complains with: E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. it's it okay to activate the force-loopbreak option in this case, and if not, what do i do to upgrade e2fsprogs? |
| 07:19.17 | candle | Nems: good enough reason :) |
| 07:19.17 | liable | or even testing sarge to etch, cause he hsant upgraded in fucking ages... |
| 07:19.20 | caphuso | oh god |
| 07:19.31 | ke6isf | bazz: You're doing a dist-upgrade from Woody too, aren't you? |
| 07:19.36 | nkuttler | !tell bazz about e2fsprogs |
| 07:19.43 | bazz | ke6isf: nope |
| 07:19.48 | ke6isf | bazz: ...eh? |
| 07:19.53 | Nems | i dist-upgraded to dis about a month ago... |
| 07:20.01 | Nems | s/dis/sid/ |
| 07:20.03 | nkuttler | ke6isf: can be a testing sarge as well |
| 07:20.06 | jm_ | like I said many times, sid should require a password for using it |
| 07:20.12 | ke6isf | nkuttler: Ah, indeed. |
| 07:20.29 | caphuso | jm_: not a password. a gpg key, signed by me and nobody else |
| 07:20.35 | bazz | ke6isf: i haven't upgraded in some time on this computer though |
| 07:20.36 | jm_ | caphuso: works for me |
| 07:20.52 | ke6isf | bazz: Define "some time". Weeks? Months? |
| 07:20.55 | liable | then we can get warez sid! :P |
| 07:21.02 | bazz | ke6isf: weeks for sure, maybe a month |
| 07:21.11 | ke6isf | bazz: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 07:21.22 | caphuso | ok, maybe being in the debian keyring ought to be sufficient too |
| 07:21.52 | ke6isf | bazz: Also, read the BTS. nkuttler summoned the URL. |
| 07:21.55 | bazz | ke6isf: testing |
| 07:22.04 | bazz | ke6isf: reading it now |
| 07:22.19 | liable | bazz: do as apt tells you... |
| 07:23.18 | bazz | liable: just activate the force-loopbreak and cross my fingers? :) |
| 07:23.25 | candle | bazz: never argue with apt :) |
| 07:23.34 | bazz | candle: that's probably a good mantra |
| 07:23.41 | candle | bazz: ;) |
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| 07:24.02 | Nems | i don't see how dist-"upgrading" from sid back to sarge, then back to sid will fix it... |
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| 07:24.16 | candle | Nems: strange things happen |
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| 07:24.35 | Nems | well the thought never even crossed my mind |
| 07:25.22 | bazz | ke6isf: so the gist of the bug report in my skimming of it is that this only happens if your doing a dist-upgrade or haven't updated in some time, so it won't be fixed. |
| 07:25.45 | fireba11 | humm .. what version number got sid btw ? |
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| 07:26.04 | caphuso | fireba11: sid doesn't have a version number |
| 07:26.48 | fireba11 | caphuso: not yet or isn't going to have ever ? |
| 07:27.11 | caphuso | fireba11: never |
| 07:27.28 | caphuso | what good is a version number that's never going to change? |
| 07:27.49 | ke6isf | bazz: By the looks of it, it's more if you're doing a dist-upgrade in such a way that you skip a version (e.g., woody to sid, as was pointed out in the bug report). |
| 07:27.56 | fireba11 | caphuso: why that ? could be used to estimate amount of changes since last version :-) |
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| 07:28.06 | ke6isf | bazz: 'testing' isin your sources.list, right? |
| 07:28.12 | caphuso | fireba11: there is no last version of sid to compare to |
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| 07:28.23 | sanxiyn | Sid "releases" daily. |
| 07:28.30 | sanxiyn | So is testing. |
| 07:28.34 | bazz | ke6isf: yeah |
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| 07:28.51 | kikinovak | Hi. I just activated IP masquerading by installing ipmasq. Q: how (in)secure is it by default? I use it to share a dialup connection. |
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| 07:29.04 | bazz | ke6isf: looks like Andreas Mohr had the same issue on a testing machine that hadn't been updated in a while |
| 07:29.07 | candle | whats the key combo to minimise ALL windows at once? |
| 07:29.12 | ke6isf | bazz: Cross your fingers, hope it works. |
| 07:29.16 | vyrus | im new to x.org... other than installing x11-common what else do i need to setup a working x.org configuration (i would like to use fluxbox if it is compatible?) |
| 07:29.28 | sanxiyn | vyrus: ... |
| 07:29.34 | bazz | ke6isf: looks like it did, the install all worked with no errors |
| 07:29.48 | ke6isf | bazz: Then have fun. |
| 07:30.02 | bazz | thanks :) |
| 07:30.10 | candle | bazz: give him a hug ;) |
| 07:30.19 | vyrus | sanxiyn yes :P |
| 07:30.20 | sanxiyn | vyrus: Normally, apt-get upgrade is all that's needed. |
| 07:30.48 | vyrus | sanxiyn this is a new install, it's like 2 min's old |
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| 07:31.04 | vyrus | sanxiyn i just run upgrade after apt installing x11-common ? |
| 07:31.19 | ke6isf | vyrus: What version of debian are you running? |
| 07:31.20 | sanxiyn | vyrus: Why do you install x11-common? |
| 07:31.22 | caphuso | vyrus: you need x-window-system-core, not x11-common |
| 07:31.44 | vyrus | caphuso is that not xfree86 ? |
| 07:31.57 | vyrus | i just figured that since i was installing fresh i would give x.org a try |
| 07:32.02 | caphuso | vyrus: not if you use a version of debian that already has x.org |
| 07:32.13 | vyrus | ahh |
| 07:32.42 | vyrus | caphuso i see that xorg is now installing |
| 07:32.44 | vyrus | thankyou |
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| 07:36.30 | Shadda | Hey, I installed some packages today, they setup properly, but for whatever reason I had to uninstall them and reinstall them. I'd like to know if there's a way to force it to install as if it were the first time |
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| 07:36.40 | Shadda | eg recreate all the original folders and config files |
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| 07:36.50 | Shadda | Is there any way to make apt-get do that? |
| 07:36.54 | nkuttler | Shadda: dpkg --force-help |
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| 07:37.20 | Shadda | I though --force was to ignore any potentially dangerous problems in an install |
| 07:37.24 | Shadda | thought* |
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| 07:37.49 | fergal | sorry |
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| 07:37.55 | nkuttler | Shadda: man dpkg rather |
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| 07:37.59 | Shadda | ah |
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| 07:38.04 | BriajWrk | hi all |
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| 07:38.31 | Shadda | I got this uhm...not great idea to rm -rf the directories it created |
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| 07:39.51 | nkuttler | Shadda: correct, use apt-get remove --purge to remove a package completely |
| 07:39.56 | Shadda | I did that |
| 07:40.09 | vyrus | caphuso that install worked with fluxbox fine.. thanx for the help |
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| 07:40.46 | Shadda | apt-get remove --purge apache2* libapache2* php5* |
| 07:41.01 | Shadda | I ran that, but when I reinstall them, it doesn't recreate the config files or init.d files |
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| 07:41.56 | ke6isf | Interesting, Firefox is in sarge updates again. |
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| 07:43.14 | sep | ke6isf, an aplication with the development rate of firefox is bound to have security issues now and then |
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| 07:43.31 | ke6isf | sep: True enough. But still no less interesting. |
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| 07:44.01 | Shadda | nkuttler: Hrm I'm not sure I understand...how would I force apt-get to recreate all the directories/files it would as if It were being installed for the first time? |
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| 07:44.21 | sep | ke6isf, im just glad it's actualy getting updated so wer not running aplications with unfixes issues |
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| 07:44.38 | ke6isf | sep: Yah. |
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| 07:47.28 | Norbert | hi all; for some reason I compiled a "press Ctrl-D to continue" in the kernel - can anyone tell me which option I (accidently) enabled? |
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| 07:48.36 | bob2 | that's not from the kernel |
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| 07:48.57 | Shadda | argh this is annoying... |
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| 07:51.36 | simonrvn | Norbert: um, sulogin, not kernel. you booted single user... |
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| 07:52.05 | Norbert | I didn't boot single user |
| 07:52.25 | bob2 | well |
| 07:52.27 | Norbert | when pressing Ctrl-D the system boots up as normal; I'm using the paticular kernel right now |
| 07:52.27 | simonrvn | well something happened to cause it to do that |
| 07:52.27 | bob2 | something happened |
| 07:52.32 | bob2 | the kernel is not promting you for input |
| 07:52.40 | Norbert | okay |
| 07:52.42 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 07:52.52 | simonrvn | no i'm not |
| 07:52.54 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 07:53.00 | yoo | i have a problem with my tv tuner card bt878 |
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| 07:53.32 | yoo | when i try to scan channel this error appears : |
| 07:53.34 | yoo | tuner 2-0061: tuner type not set |
| 07:53.49 | yoo | somebody can help me ! |
| 07:54.17 | Norbert | yeah, surely 'somebody' can help you |
| 07:54.28 | caphuso | yoo: set the tuner type, via the tuner option when loading the module |
| 07:54.48 | yoo | options tuner type=24 debug=0 |
| 07:54.52 | yoo | the same problem |
| 07:55.07 | yoo | but dmesg|more tell me : |
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| 07:55.18 | yoo | tveeprom: tuner = Philips FQ1216ME MK3 (idx = 55, type = 4) |
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| 07:55.25 | yoo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:55.37 | yoo | so i'm loosed |
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| 07:56.10 | jolygod | Hi I need some basic help |
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| 07:56.30 | Norbert | yoo: somebody says: "After a few hours of trial and error, I've found that the tuner module needs to be loaded before cx88xx and cx8800" |
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| 07:56.39 | jolygod | I am getting a blank screen after boot |
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| 07:57.01 | jolygod | seems like xwindws is not loaded at all... probably my graphics driver |
| 07:57.01 | Norbert | (modprobe tuner) |
| 07:57.06 | jolygod | how do I reconfigure? |
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| 07:57.15 | yoo | Norbert : bt878 for me |
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| 07:57.43 | yoo | so you mean i must load my modules manually ? |
| 07:57.47 | caphuso | yoo: the tuner option is for the bttv module |
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| 07:58.22 | yoo | options bttv card=10 tuner=24 perhaps |
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| 07:58.27 | yoo | i try |
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| 07:58.43 | jolygod | (it's my first install, sorry about noobish questions) |
| 07:59.07 | Norbert | ai, I just missed the school girls |
| 07:59.15 | Norbert | ah, anyway, time for work |
| 07:59.28 | sep | jolygod, ctrl+alt+F1 login there and type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 07:59.44 | jolygod | sep,I'll try, 10x |
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| 07:59.57 | cpop | Hello. How do I tell resolvconf what nameservers I want? I have 3 nameservers I can use and I've put them in /etc/network/interfaces, but after resolvconf -u I only find the first one in /etc/resolv.conf. |
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| 08:00.53 | cpop | Where does it get its name servers from? |
| 08:01.11 | sep | cpop, dhcp perhaps ? |
| 08:01.15 | bob2 | resolvconf is kinda crack |
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| 08:01.36 | cpop | no, I have static ip's |
| 08:02.13 | cpop | I've been reading the README for a few minutes now, can't figure it out. |
| 08:02.27 | sep | cpop, sorry then i never understood resolvconf, i just edited resolv.conf manualy and removed the thing |
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| 08:02.50 | cpop | /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/ seems to have files that contain the proper nameservers... |
| 08:02.58 | cpop | ok, how to I get rid of resolvconf then? |
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| 08:03.09 | cpop | simply remove the package? |
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| 08:03.55 | bob2 | purge it |
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| 08:04.43 | cpop | got it. that works. :) |
| 08:05.03 | cpop | I honestly wanted to give it a chance, except the docs forget to mention this simple detail. |
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| 08:05.17 | cpop | "where to input my nameserver preferences" |
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| 08:05.33 | bob2 | heh |
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| 08:05.39 | bob2 | I still don't know what it's supposed to do |
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| 08:06.18 | yoo | options bttv card=10 type=24 pll=0 |
| 08:06.20 | yoo | the same |
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| 08:06.39 | caphuso | cpop: /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README.gz |
| 08:06.43 | caphuso | it's all in there |
| 08:06.43 | xandros-newbie | hi. |
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| 08:07.07 | xandros-newbie | i'm a debian newbee. i'm hoping to find help here. |
| 08:07.12 | xandros-newbie | is this the right place? |
| 08:07.19 | Shadda | Nah you want #fedora |
| 08:07.20 | Shadda | :D |
| 08:07.26 | xandros-newbie | :D |
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| 08:07.30 | Shadda | or #caldera |
| 08:07.33 | caphuso | bob2: it provides a sane interface for /etc/resolv.conf in situations where a simple static file doesn't quite work |
| 08:07.37 | xandros-newbie | no kidding.. |
| 08:07.56 | bob2 | xandros-newbie: you're not using Xandros? |
| 08:08.00 | xandros-newbie | xandros is debian. so i'm thinking you guys might be able to help me in my network prob |
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| 08:08.07 | bob2 | xandros-newbie: no, it's not, sorry |
| 08:08.11 | bob2 | xandros-newbie: try #xandros |
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| 08:08.13 | Shadda | I love debian but I'm gonna nuke this install if this keeps up |
| 08:08.20 | bob2 | caphuso: hm...e.g. dhcp clients would use it? |
| 08:08.22 | caphuso | bob2: imagine a box that access a local DNS server for the home network and the DNS server(s) the internet provider assigns via DHCP |
| 08:08.23 | cpop | caphuso: Then I must be dense. Humor me please, where does it pick up its nameservers from? |
| 08:08.31 | caphuso | cpop: plenty of places |
| 08:08.35 | caphuso | cpop: /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README.gz |
| 08:08.48 | cpop | I read it, didn't see the light. |
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| 08:09.05 | caphuso | bob2: major PITA in the pre-resolvconf era |
| 08:09.09 | cpop | name one place, just for the heck of it. |
| 08:09.09 | bob2 | hmm |
| 08:09.13 | caphuso | cpop: dhcp |
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| 08:09.20 | cpop | I don't have dhcp |
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| 08:09.34 | sep | cpop, i think that if you have a static ip and are allways conencted the same way, you dont need resolvconf, it's more for the dynamic user |
| 08:09.37 | xandros-newbie | please? |
| 08:09.47 | xandros-newbie | there's no people at #xandros |
| 08:09.52 | bob2 | xandros-newbie: this is not a xandros support channel, sorry |
| 08:10.02 | xandros-newbie | this is actually a debian server issue |
| 08:10.05 | sep | xandros-newbie, try the xandros mailinglist ? |
| 08:10.06 | xandros-newbie | not necessary a xandros issue |
| 08:10.17 | bob2 | that sounds like a lie |
| 08:10.20 | cpop | sep: I agree. I'd just like to know how it got installed in the first place. I didn't install it, must've picked it up automatically during an upgrade. |
| 08:10.23 | bob2 | also, you're being extraordinarily irrittating |
| 08:10.31 | bob2 | if you had a simple question, you would have asked it by now |
| 08:10.41 | candle | lol |
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| 08:11.10 | xandros-newbie | i'm not lying. i have a debian server and the problem is, it cannot ping the windows boxes. |
| 08:11.19 | xandros-newbie | including the xandros (that's where xandros comes in) |
| 08:11.37 | xandros-newbie | it can ping the IP addresses, btw. |
| 08:11.48 | Yoe | xandros-newbie: sounds like you forgot to configure some sort of name resolving |
| 08:11.56 | sep | xandros-newbie, check your /etc/resolv.conf for sane settings |
| 08:12.06 | xandros-newbie | but not the PC names |
| 08:12.30 | xandros-newbie | but the debian server can ping the outside (internet) domain names |
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| 08:12.43 | Yoe | xandros-newbie: if you're trying to ping them by SMB name, then that won't work -- unless you configure nscd to do so |
| 08:12.45 | Yoe | uh |
| 08:12.49 | Yoe | nss, not nscd, sorry |
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| 08:13.24 | xandros-newbie | the smb name, yes. |
| 08:13.28 | Dewi | um |
| 08:13.34 | xandros-newbie | what's nss |
| 08:13.34 | Dewi | windows boxes with XP SP2 |
| 08:13.34 | xandros-newbie | ? |
| 08:13.37 | Dewi | block pings by default |
| 08:13.41 | Dewi | you do realise that, right? |
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| 08:13.51 | sanxiyn | Name Service Switch. |
| 08:13.53 | xandros-newbie | but why the xandros box too? |
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| 08:14.03 | xandros-newbie | do we install that to debian? |
| 08:14.03 | Norbert | hi there |
| 08:14.04 | xandros-newbie | NSS |
| 08:14.05 | xandros-newbie | ? |
| 08:14.07 | Norbert | anyone interested in having hack@2-cool.com |
| 08:14.07 | Pixels- | if you are pinging by Smb name |
| 08:14.10 | Norbert | it's a free account |
| 08:14.15 | Pixels- | it won't work |
| 08:14.18 | Pixels- | without NSS |
| 08:14.25 | Yoe | xandros-newbie: /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 08:14.29 | Norbert | (accesable via mail.com) |
| 08:14.33 | Yoe | xandros-newbie: and don't be so impatient -- some of us have work to do |
| 08:14.37 | xandros-newbie | do we install nss to debian? |
| 08:14.43 | sanxiyn | ... |
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| 08:14.46 | Yoe | well, yeah |
| 08:14.46 | Pixels- | apt-get install nss |
| 08:14.53 | Pixels- | lol |
| 08:14.58 | bobbyz | I've got a question about the GPL. Let's say a programmer writes a piece of software and distributes it under the GPL license. Can the programmer later change his or her mind about the licensing and close the source? If so, can the pgrammer prohibit previous versions of the software that were released under the GPL from being redistributed or the code being used? |
| 08:15.00 | Pixels- | oh nm, you didnt ask how |
| 08:15.00 | paivakil | cpop: man host.conf |
| 08:15.01 | xandros-newbie | is that it? |
| 08:15.02 | Yoe | Pixels-: no, that won't work -- he needs an NSS module for smb name resolving |
| 08:15.04 | Pixels- | I misread that |
| 08:15.12 | Pixels- | Yoe: oh, oops lol |
| 08:15.14 | Yoe | ie something from samba |
| 08:15.14 | bob2 | bobbyz: yes, and no |
| 08:15.21 | Yoe | dunno exactly what, though. |
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| 08:15.38 | Yoe | xandros-newbie: read the samba documentation, search for nss or "name service switch" |
| 08:15.41 | sanxiyn | bobbyz: yes and no. Oops, already said. |
| 08:15.45 | bobbyz | bob2: thanks, that helps |
| 08:15.53 | bobbyz | sanxiyn: and thanks to you too :) |
| 08:16.03 | Dewi | splunge |
| 08:16.05 | xandros-newbie | how do we configure nss? |
| 08:16.14 | Dewi | (it means yes and no at the same time, without being indecisive) |
| 08:16.17 | bob2 | bobbyz: tho, if the authors takes patches from other people, they can't just relicense it anymore |
| 08:16.29 | sep | xandros-newbie, are you running a w2000 server ? if yes then just point your resolv.conf to that ones dns and forget about nss and smb |
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| 08:16.40 | me | lj |
| 08:16.42 | bobbyz | that makes sense |
| 08:16.42 | xandros-newbie | no. |
| 08:16.43 | sanxiyn | bobbyz: Unless you get copyright assignment |
| 08:16.59 | xandros-newbie | my server is debian. |
| 08:17.08 | xandros-newbie | not win2k |
| 08:17.11 | Shadda | dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `apache2-mpm-prefork' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 08:17.13 | Shadda | damn |
| 08:17.14 | sep | xandros-newbie, so youre windows are doing nameresolution based on broadcasts ? or are you running samba and wins on your debian ? |
| 08:17.17 | Pixels- | xandros-newbie: try googling it |
| 08:17.24 | Pixels- | google is your friend :D |
| 08:17.31 | sanxiyn | Shadda: Eh, that sounds bad... |
| 08:17.53 | Shadda | and I have no idea how to fix |
| 08:17.55 | Shadda | oi |
| 08:18.00 | bobbyz | well thanks bob2 and sanxiyn. Have good evenings both of you |
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| 08:18.15 | Pixels- | have you moo'd today? |
| 08:18.28 | bob2 | Shadda: that sounds like disk fuckage |
| 08:18.44 | Shadda | Well, I'm pretty sure its because of me |
| 08:18.51 | sep | xandros-newbie, if you do require windowish nameresolution, then install th winbind package, and read it's docs in /usr/share/doc/winbind/ |
| 08:18.57 | bob2 | Shadda: not unless you deleted files out of /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 08:18.59 | Shadda | I got a little bit mad and rm -rf'd every apache2 reference |
| 08:19.03 | Shadda | aha I did |
| 08:19.21 | Pixels- | uh oh, thats bad Shadda |
| 08:19.27 | Dewi | that *was* a bit mad, Shadda |
| 08:19.42 | Shadda | Crazy problems call for crazy (stupid) measures! |
| 08:19.45 | Shadda | Any way to fix? |
| 08:20.14 | sanxiyn | Shadda: I can send you one. |
| 08:20.27 | Shadda | I distinctly remeber rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/info/*apache2* |
| 08:20.32 | Shadda | followed by |
| 08:20.40 | Shadda | DIE YOU @#$& PIECE OF *($_( |
| 08:20.48 | Shadda | bash: command not found |
| 08:20.51 | bob2 | Shadda: for future reference, rm on anything in /var/lib/dpkg/ is going to fuck something up |
| 08:20.55 | sep | Shadda, the die command is lowercaps |
| 08:21.03 | Shadda | hehe |
| 08:21.41 | Shadda | Ok, so how do I fix :) |
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| 08:21.50 | sanxiyn | Shadda: Which distribution of Debian? |
| 08:21.53 | Shadda | sarge |
| 08:22.00 | Shadda | running 2.6.12-1 kernel |
| 08:22.17 | bob2 | fixing it is pretty simple |
| 08:22.21 | bob2 | reinstall the package with dpkg |
| 08:22.23 | sep | Shadda, treidd a forced reinstall ? |
| 08:22.24 | bob2 | then purge it |
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| 08:22.38 | Shadda | eh well it says its already installed |
| 08:22.43 | bob2 | yes |
| 08:22.46 | Shadda | apache2-mpm-prefork is already the newest version. |
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| 08:22.50 | bob2 | with dpkg |
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| 08:23.06 | sanxiyn | dpkg -r apache2-mpm-prefork |
| 08:23.18 | sanxiyn | oops |
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| 08:23.21 | bob2 | it will whinge then, too |
| 08:23.39 | bob2 | since you deleted it's database that told it what files where in that package |
| 08:23.53 | Shadda | hrm |
| 08:23.59 | Dewi | dpkg: I was feeling suicidally depressed until you came back and flooded my life with light once again. You sweet, sweet robot. |
| 08:24.04 | Shadda | sanxiyn: didn't work...dependency problems |
| 08:24.07 | sanxiyn | Too bad my Sarge server has apache2-mpm-worker installed. :( |
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| 08:24.29 | sanxiyn | If it wasn't, I could just tar /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2-mpm-prefork.* and send it to you... |
| 08:24.34 | Shadda | Can't really use threaded apache til php is fully threadsafe |
| 08:24.40 | Shadda | Only upgraded to appease the svn gods |
| 08:24.59 | bob2 | hah |
| 08:25.19 | bob2 | Shadda: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends apache2-mpm-prefork ; sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork |
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| 08:26.10 | Shadda | seems to be working |
| 08:26.19 | Shadda | Lets see if we can't get apache started |
| 08:27.01 | Shadda | success! |
| 08:27.08 | Shadda | I could kiss you guys, if I wasn't covered in cheetos |
| 08:27.13 | sep | Shadda, and now write " I will not randomly rm -rf ever again" 1000 times in vi. |
| 08:27.19 | Shadda | haha |
| 08:27.46 | sep | Shadda, expected thatone :P |
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| 08:27.51 | Norbert | sep: that should be easy ;-) |
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| 08:28.09 | Shadda | ahhh thats great...I've been messing with that for a solid day |
| 08:28.17 | Shadda | installed apache2 so I could get mod-svn |
| 08:28.23 | simple_gurl | hi |
| 08:28.26 | Shadda | _screwed_ over php and ruby |
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| 08:29.00 | simple_gurl | hi |
| 08:29.01 | thrthr | Shadda: wut's the problem? |
| 08:29.11 | Shadda | thrthr: nothing now :) |
| 08:29.13 | thrthr | :D |
| 08:29.15 | thrthr | good |
| 08:29.27 | simple_gurl | hi |
| 08:29.33 | Shadda | Thanks bob2, sep, sanxiyn |
| 08:29.33 | deeLer | hi |
| 08:29.34 | simple_gurl | hi |
| 08:29.51 | Norbert | ah, simple girls; my favorite |
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| 08:30.31 | Shadda | Now, does anyone know who thought this up for apache2 default configuration? RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/ |
| 08:30.32 | simple_gurl | hi |
| 08:30.37 | Shadda | So that I can kick him square in the nuts |
| 08:30.40 | user12 | does anyone here have a good hostap howto - need this to scan with my smc wirless card |
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| 08:31.45 | eXa_bOy | hi |
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| 08:35.27 | fireba11 | Shadda: what's wrong with it ? *curious* |
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| 08:44.27 | Shadda` | Gah |
| 08:44.31 | Shadda` | Damn adelphia |
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| 08:44.50 | Shadda` | I have enough to deal with with my own stupidity, I shouldn't have to put up with theirs :P |
| 08:44.53 | CWX_19^_^ | HAI>>>>>>>>>>>> |
| 08:45.23 | writerase | hi, could someone tell me why libldap2-dev_2.1.30-12_i386.deb is present in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openldap2/ but ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/Packages contains Package: libldap2 Version: 2.1.30-8 |
| 08:45.30 | tosh | I seem to have broken my kde apps. there's seems to be a problem with klauncher meaning I can't launch quanta and I need it. anjuta is crap so does anyone have another suggestion for a good IDE? or maybe something to solve the klauncher problem? running sid |
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| 08:46.54 | yang | I see lots of people use gmail.com emails, but there isnt any signup form on www.gmail.com ? |
| 08:47.15 | tosh | you have to get an invite |
| 08:47.20 | tosh | from someone |
| 08:47.30 | tosh | email me your emailaddress and I'll give you one |
| 08:47.36 | tosh | I mean private message |
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| 08:48.18 | dawg | woah, someone without an invite. that's fairly rare |
| 08:48.34 | tosh | it is :) |
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| 08:48.51 | liberty | wtf Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.4.27_2.4.27-11_all |
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| 08:49.58 | liberty | anyone got a sources.list deb-src line that can fix this -> Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.4.27_2.4.27-11_all |
| 08:50.22 | fireba11 | liberty: ? |
| 08:50.23 | liberty | I can manually download the file. but I don't get why it ain't working |
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| 08:50.58 | Shadda` | er find it on packages.debian.org and copy the download source? |
| 08:51.43 | liable | liberty: and it shows up in apt-cache? |
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| 08:53.06 | fireba11 | doubt that |
| 08:55.01 | liberty | no |
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| 08:55.51 | torc | how do i run java? |
| 08:56.01 | jm_ | you need JRE |
| 08:56.26 | torc | like, kaffe? |
| 08:56.30 | torc | i'm on powerpc. |
| 08:56.36 | LordLamer | hello. i use top and after a few seconds top crashes with error "Gleitkomma-Ausnahmeuser". somebody knows what thi is? could it be a hardwaredefect? |
| 08:56.50 | bob2 | and in english that is... |
| 08:56.55 | jm_ | not sure, I use java-package + Sun's JRE |
| 08:57.18 | torc | jm_: does sun have JRE for powerpc? :/ |
| 08:57.52 | jm_ | torc: beats me, go to their page and check |
| 08:57.56 | torc | jm_: there are several variants available if you apt-get install java-runtime |
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| 08:58.09 | torc | jm_: i wonder what is the best of them :) |
| 08:58.10 | Shadda` | torc: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp |
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| 08:58.27 | Shadda` | yeah, there's java for ppc |
| 08:58.37 | Shadda` | atleast, I assume there is :) You can download azureus for ppc |
| 08:58.38 | jm_ | torc: my needs are so minimal I didn't see any differences |
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| 08:59.11 | torc | sun download does show only java for linux and java for linux amd64 ;) |
| 08:59.55 | jm_ | they only have x86 and AMD64 releases |
| 08:59.55 | tarzeau | i can't tell firefox which mail client to start on mailto: links? |
| 08:59.57 | jm_ | yeah |
| 08:59.59 | tarzeau | HOW RETARDED IS THIS SHIT! |
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| 09:00.31 | tarzeau | jm_: yeah, i've needed it for ppc and sparc once, too |
| 09:00.43 | jm_ | tarzeau: they have Sparc version ;) |
| 09:00.51 | tarzeau | jm_: but i don't have solaris on my sparcs |
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| 09:01.09 | jm_ | tarzeau: that might be a problem indeed |
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| 09:04.13 | liberty | running kernel=2.4.27-2-k6, downloaded source=2.4.27, kernel-headers=2.4.27-2 & kernel-headers=2.4.27-2-k6, am I missing anything else? |
| 09:04.25 | liberty | nvidia? |
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| 09:04.56 | liberty | don't need nvidia |
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| 09:05.09 | liberty | what about tree? |
| 09:05.15 | liberty | kernel-tree? |
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| 09:06.36 | CWX_19^_^ | HAAAAAAAAAAAiII |
| 09:06.52 | liberty | i guess thats enough to wreck my box for now ln -s it up...;o) |
| 09:07.17 | tarzeau | really i can't tell firefox which mail client to open on mailto: links? |
| 09:08.01 | liberty | tarzeau can ya hex edit it? |
| 09:08.06 | liberty | or mime it |
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| 09:11.07 | yang | Where do i specify to boot directly in X, without having to type startx |
| 09:11.16 | eXa_bOy | from within debian can i reinstall the system from scratch? |
| 09:11.30 | sanxiyn | eXa_bOy: Yes. |
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| 09:11.36 | liable | tarzeau: it doesnt use your default one? or you want to set it to another? |
| 09:11.39 | eXa_bOy | how |
| 09:11.40 | eXa_bOy | ? |
| 09:11.47 | liable | !reinstall |
| 09:11.47 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 09:11.48 | eXa_bOy | i have f-ed it up :( |
| 09:12.07 | liberty | replace the evolution binary with mutt / pine |
| 09:12.41 | eXa_bOy | i dont understand that |
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| 09:13.11 | liberty | ^ tarzeau mine pops-up evolution |
| 09:13.15 | rony | is there a way to check if an avi movie is "playble" from the console ? |
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| 09:13.59 | liberty | rm evolution && touch evolution && ln -s /somwhere/mutt |
| 09:14.02 | tarzeau | liberty: i don't want evolution bullshit |
| 09:14.11 | tarzeau | liberty: the thing is, some other users want the crap |
| 09:14.17 | liberty | ahh.. |
| 09:14.30 | tarzeau | liberty: like multiuser, multitasking systems |
| 09:14.39 | tarzeau | liberty: alot of them, for way alot more users |
| 09:14.52 | tarzeau | liberty: and my biggest wish is, apt-get/dpkg support installing in user home directories |
| 09:14.53 | liberty | long time no talk to ya... waivin by the way.. I just nuked sus0r for a deb (sarge) |
| 09:14.57 | liable | tarzeau: cant you set there alternatives? |
| 09:15.13 | nestea | question : i was told when you download .deb files it automaticly installs them after you use them |
| 09:15.15 | nestea | but thats not the case for me |
| 09:15.27 | nestea | i still gotta go through and do ./configure a |
| 09:15.32 | nestea | and make & make install |
| 09:15.35 | liable | nestea: when you use apt it does... dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 09:15.45 | liable | wtf? |
| 09:15.47 | nestea | ? |
| 09:15.58 | tarzeau | liable: you tell me which |
| 09:16.01 | tarzeau | liable: yes i can |
| 09:16.14 | tarzeau | liberty: hey i remember you! |
| 09:16.19 | tarzeau | liberty: omg i can't believe it |
| 09:16.23 | nestea | liable: am I missing dependencies or libriaries? |
| 09:16.25 | nestea | err |
| 09:16.34 | nestea | or seomthing |
| 09:16.38 | tarzeau | liberty: what happened to phalanx and the others? |
| 09:16.40 | nestea | i cant think of how to spell this stuff at the moment |
| 09:16.40 | liable | ... |
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| 09:17.23 | liberty | yep back on debian again ;o) phalanx I ain't heard from for months.. |
| 09:17.45 | aganlex | oh nooos i cant go to sleep until i fix my debian machine (router) |
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| 09:18.06 | Esaj | why is gamin taking up all my CPU? |
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| 09:18.26 | aganlex | whats the kernel parameter for single user mode? i tried "debian single" and "debian 2" and neither get me to a prompt, and they seem to try entering high runlevels |
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| 09:19.01 | tarzeau | aganlex: init=/bin/bash get you to a prompt |
| 09:19.06 | tosh | anyone know of an IDE or code editor that has if-structure collapsing/expanding in the editor? |
| 09:19.08 | tarzeau | Esaj: which game? |
| 09:19.12 | tarzeau | Esaj: nethack sure doesn't |
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| 09:19.18 | tarzeau | tosh: emacs |
| 09:19.31 | liberty | since back when he frist moved in his new home.. suit, darkman, many other seem to be there still. I wonder if you could set mail client in .bashrc |
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| 09:19.56 | liberty | just like xtern |
| 09:20.05 | aganlex | tarzeau: ok thanks ill try it |
| 09:20.10 | tosh | I need something gui-like, I need to do a lot of copy/pasting of snippets |
| 09:20.23 | nestea | im just wondering if Im missing something so i can try to get it through apt-get or synaptic |
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| 09:21.39 | soccos | is it safe to force install azureus if I've manually installed java? |
| 09:23.17 | tosh | soccos sure, it only needs a valid JAVA_HOME and java binary in your $PATH |
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| 09:23.49 | Knight_Lord | Has anyone here used AFS in debian? Is it usable? Is it anywhere near stable? Should i seriously consider replacing NFS by AFS? |
| 09:24.08 | Knight_Lord | (i'm using 4 NFS servers at the moment so it would be handy) |
| 09:24.58 | Vyrus001 | im trying to compile a driver that points to /lib/modules/kernelversion/build, however this folder does not exsist... i assume this is suposed to be a simlynk to somwhere but i do not know where ? |
| 09:25.04 | dregan_ | hi, I am having real troble to get my dns server to propogate to the web. I have deleted all my zonedit references, and had my isp redirect directly to my ip address - 202.164.198.116. But the dns simply refuses to work. I have pasted some examples at http://channels.debian.net/paste/846 for anyone who is willing to take up the challenge-please |
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| 09:25.29 | soccos | tosh: how do I overcome the apt dependency that's stopping me from installing it? |
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| 09:25.59 | liberty | tarzeau, I don't nothing in the about:config either |
| 09:26.22 | sep | soccos, install jave with the java-package that way the depencendies should be ok |
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| 09:26.33 | sep | soccos, /msg dpkg java-package |
| 09:26.41 | fireba11 | dregan_: you need to enter NS IP .. ^^ |
| 09:26.52 | enyc | lo |
| 09:27.04 | fireba11 | dregan_: so your zone file looks invalid to me |
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| 09:27.21 | sep | soccos, if you dont want that, then you must use equivs package to make a package to fake dpkg into thinking the dependencies are met |
| 09:27.35 | row2 | how do I remove a defunct proccess? |
| 09:27.39 | dregan_ | fireball - can you give me an example of correct NS IP please |
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| 09:28.12 | fireba11 | you just need a NS line like " NS 123.123.123.123" no alias allowed there as far as i know |
| 09:28.41 | yang | Where do i specify to boot directly in X, without having to type startx |
| 09:28.59 | fireba11 | dregan_: jsut consult manuals about bind, they usually got a couple examples for different uses |
| 09:29.04 | sep | dregan_, also check out www.dnsreport.com enter your domainname |
| 09:29.32 | sep | yang, install [gdm|kdm|xdm|sdm] |
| 09:29.45 | row2 | sep or wdm ;) |
| 09:29.56 | sep | !beer row2 |
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| 09:30.12 | row2 | ooooo guiness! |
| 09:30.20 | yang | i used to have wdm, but that takes me memory |
| 09:30.25 | soccos | sep: ok, thx |
| 09:30.26 | fireba11 | dregan_: http://www.checkdns.net/ use that to check your setup :-) |
| 09:30.29 | dregan_ | fireball: thank you, I have been reading the manuals/howtos until im.... but I will take your advice and work on my zone file again |
| 09:31.02 | row2 | dregan whats the issue? |
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| 09:31.15 | dregan_ | fireball: thank you again - I will do that again |
| 09:31.45 | row2 | dregan what errors you getting? |
| 09:31.49 | liberty | tarzeau, Try the firefox extension "launchy" http://www.gemal.dk/mozilla/launchy.html |
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| 09:32.02 | dregan_ | row2 - I aam unable to get my auth dns server to propogate to the www see for setup http://channels.debian.net/paste/846 |
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| 09:32.12 | fireba11 | dregan_: your log says it's sending out a notify, i had that problem too, reason was an invalid zonefile .. also check your header numbers if any one of those is too low ... and remember to increase serial with every change :-) |
| 09:32.16 | liberty | tarzeau, Launchy will enable you to open links and mailto's with external applications. |
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| 09:32.54 | row2 | @ NS www ; Inet Address of nameserver |
| 09:32.56 | dregan_ | fireball: yup, I am pretty fussy about serial no incrementing |
| 09:33.05 | row2 | can't have that dregn, use the ip |
| 09:33.12 | martin__ | alguien habla español??? |
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| 09:33.22 | fireba11 | row2: that's what i figured :-) |
| 09:33.26 | sep | !es |
| 09:33.26 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 09:33.33 | hansi_xp | si |
| 09:33.43 | martin__ | ok |
| 09:33.44 | row2 | dregan_: you also have 0 ips in that file |
| 09:33.46 | row2 | :P |
| 09:33.48 | yang | Where can i get Kde APM applet? |
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| 09:33.57 | row2 | ns1 IN CNAME @ points to root domain root domain has no ip set |
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| 09:34.18 | yoo | i have a problem with my tuner card bt878 |
| 09:34.23 | yoo | tuner 2-0061: tuner type not set |
| 09:34.27 | row2 | dregan_: redo zone file in basic non shorthand full domains ips for ns etc and see what happens then |
| 09:34.29 | yoo | dmesg|more say me : |
| 09:34.38 | yoo | tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 44809, rev = E155, serial# = 7928094 |
| 09:34.41 | fireba11 | dregan_: bind is pretty picky about zonefiles .. best to use a tool to generate them, less errors that way :-) |
| 09:34.47 | yoo | tveeprom: tuner = Philips FQ1216ME MK3 (idx = 55, type = 4) |
| 09:34.52 | yoo | bttv0: using tuner=4 |
| 09:34.58 | yoo | i put in my /etc/modprobe.d/bttv |
| 09:35.05 | yoo | options bttv card=10 tuner=24 radio=0 pll=1 adc_crush=0 |
| 09:35.10 | yoo | options tuner type=3 |
| 09:35.17 | yoo | but it's the same ! |
| 09:35.22 | yoo | Please help me |
| 09:35.33 | row2 | fireba11: pfft its easy to edit if you don't try taking short cuts etc. |
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| 09:35.52 | row2 | same as doing it via a webpanel but just a tad more room for error |
| 09:36.29 | spb_nick | Does anybody know, is it possible to disable kernel translation of a particular input device into /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux? Thanks:) |
| 09:36.32 | dregan_ | fireball: can you suggest a tool |
| 09:36.39 | fireba11 | row2: true .. but my eperience is since bind is picky about the syntax you should be careful :-) |
| 09:37.09 | dregan_ | row2: I thought I had it pretty simple<g> |
| 09:37.29 | fireba11 | dregan_: no, sorry .. only got a handfull of domains i entered myself .. made a dyndns script for one of those though :-) |
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| 09:38.18 | sep | dregan_, use the tool from the zonecheck package |
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| 09:38.23 | dregan_ | fireball: I hate to ask, but is it possible to past me an example - if you cant, thank you for your help anyway |
| 09:38.41 | row2 | btw dregan_ also you mis the IN before A in your A records |
| 09:38.47 | sep | dregan_, or the webpage www.dnsreport.com |
| 09:39.03 | spb_nick | The problem is: this device is a bit buggy and reports wrong button events, disorienting X-server... |
| 09:39.40 | dregan_ | thannk you every one - it will take a little time to go through your suggestions - it was a much better responce than I expected. |
| 09:41.12 | spb_nick | And I can't provide every user of my driver with udev rules needed for his particular machine to isolate all the other devices :( |
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| 09:47.54 | Horde | anyone know a bit about internet trouble-shooting? |
| 09:48.32 | gudi | Horde, whats the prob |
| 09:48.38 | fireba11 | Horde: be more specific |
| 09:49.25 | Horde | well....ah cant connect, i need to connect to Dl the rest of the install cos i dont have the desktop GUI(thats the next step) so its in the prompt mode thing |
| 09:49.40 | aganlex | does anyone know of a reiser4 rescue cd |
| 09:49.45 | aganlex | i cant seem to find one |
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| 09:50.01 | aganlex | the only one i see is a gentoo disk and the website is offline |
| 09:50.02 | Shadda | Horde: can you see your nic under ifconfig? |
| 09:50.27 | Horde | ill try |
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| 09:51.43 | Horde | oh |
| 09:51.45 | Horde | and the othe thing |
| 09:52.12 | Horde | anyone here got a toshiba satellite 2180CDT with debian installed on it? |
| 09:53.23 | Horde | and yes i can see my nic |
| 09:53.30 | sep | Horde, /msg dpkg laptop |
| 09:53.33 | Shadda | Horde: what's your router's gateway? |
| 09:53.49 | Horde | the IP? |
| 09:53.56 | Shadda | yeah |
| 09:54.03 | Horde | 192.168.0.1 |
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| 09:54.11 | Shadda | try |
| 09:54.13 | keith | Hi boy |
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| 09:54.22 | Shadda | ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.110 up |
| 09:54.29 | Shadda | route add default gw 192.168.0.1 |
| 09:54.35 | Shadda | ping google.com |
| 09:54.46 | keith | I want reconfigure my Xwindow |
| 09:54.53 | keith | how Can I do? |
| 09:55.03 | streuner | keith: xorg or xfree? |
| 09:55.04 | row2 | dpkg-reconfigure <package> |
| 09:55.04 | yang | keith: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 09:55.23 | cesspit | can i install 2 different versions of gcc on the same pc using apt? |
| 09:55.26 | keith | as root user |
| 09:55.28 | Horde | shadda:device or rescourse busy |
| 09:55.30 | sanxiyn | cesspit: Yes. |
| 09:55.41 | sanxiyn | (No ill effect at all, AFAIK.) |
| 09:55.43 | Shadda | Horde: pcmcia card, I take it? |
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| 09:55.57 | lopz | which packages do I need in order to get OpenGL to work? I have a game that I want to play but it's way too slow to be played. |
| 09:56.02 | keith | I have an Ati rage pro 128 |
| 09:56.13 | Horde | oh i dontt know, something crappy |
| 09:56.22 | keith | And then another thing |
| 09:56.25 | yang | Where can i get Kde APM applet? battery show meter |
| 09:56.35 | Shadda | No I mean...your NIC, is it a PCMCIA? (a card you plug into the laptop) |
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| 09:56.45 | keith | I aren't able to mount two disk NTFS |
| 09:56.45 | Shadda | or integrated ethernet, or onboard wifi |
| 09:57.07 | lopz | or in other words, why doesn't my acceleration graphic card work? I know I installed the latest driver. |
| 09:57.14 | Shadda | If its onboard wifi I'm gonna run screaming into the night |
| 09:57.21 | Horde | intergrated ethernet |
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| 09:57.33 | Shadda | Horde: try ifconfig eth0 down |
| 09:57.46 | Horde | that worked |
| 09:57.54 | sep | lopz, what card, and what driver and how did you install the driver ? |
| 09:57.54 | Shadda | now try bringing it back up |
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| 09:58.11 | Horde | bringing what back up? |
| 09:58.15 | Shadda | eth0 |
| 09:58.17 | liberty | eth0 |
| 09:58.19 | Horde | oh |
| 09:58.23 | Shadda | ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.110 up |
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| 09:58.44 | liberty | tarzeau, you still here? |
| 09:58.50 | Horde | no diff, i CANT install the driver cos i cant get to the inter net :) |
| 09:59.05 | Shadda | oh you don't have the driver... |
| 09:59.18 | lopz | sep, it's an ATI Radeon x600pro. I downloaded the Linux latest driver from ATI's website. |
| 09:59.40 | Shadda | Horde: try getting knoppix or something, get it working on that then chroot into your debian install |
| 09:59.47 | Shadda | brb |
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| 10:00.06 | sep | lopz, sorry my ati knowhow is outdated, read here instead http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
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| 10:00.44 | Horde | is there any way aside from usinf a CD?(no more blank CD's ) |
| 10:01.00 | lopz | sep, thanks for the link |
| 10:01.25 | Shadda | Horde: floppy? |
| 10:01.33 | Horde | nope |
| 10:02.01 | Shadda | make a seperate partition, install windows or something ? |
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| 10:02.13 | sep | Horde, fix your integrated ehernet ? lspci what chipset is it, load it's module and configure it's interface |
| 10:02.14 | Horde | hmm |
| 10:02.38 | Shadda | sep: I took him at his word that he didn't have the driver/module for it :/ |
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| 10:02.50 | Horde | sounds like ill do it tommorow(its late) thanks for your help btw |
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| 10:03.23 | cesspit | sanxiyn: i did it! =) how can i now use this gcc instead of default when compiling kernel? |
| 10:03.27 | keith | To reconfigure Xserver have I to login as root? |
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| 10:03.39 | sep | Shadda, the drivers are in the kernel. and already installed, but perhaps not loaded. |
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| 10:03.56 | nova | hi |
| 10:03.58 | keith | the resolution of mi display is too low |
| 10:04.04 | Shadda | sep: He was doing a netinstall...not all too uncommon for a nic driver to be unavailable |
| 10:04.05 | keith | my display |
| 10:04.21 | Shadda | hell, my gateway has an ISA board :) |
| 10:04.25 | nova | i installed slbackup webmin but it keeps hanging when i try to access it with a browser |
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| 10:04.31 | Shadda | mod_probe eepro |
| 10:04.34 | Shadda | "May god help us all" |
| 10:04.37 | Shadda | ? |
| 10:04.42 | Shadda | bah |
| 10:04.45 | sep | Shadda, humm even my usb ethernet adapter is detected, was it a floppy based netinstall ? |
| 10:04.55 | Shadda | Dunno, hafta ask him |
| 10:05.21 | keith | is possible to go in pvt? |
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| 10:05.28 | dawg | keith, su to root then either run the config or edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 10:05.41 | anne | hi |
| 10:06.02 | anne | hi |
| 10:06.09 | sep | keith, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 10:06.16 | keith | and then can i chose my video card? |
| 10:06.18 | wireddd | so anyone have any thoughts about google office? |
| 10:06.29 | anne | hi |
| 10:06.33 | metaperl | wireddd: where is it? |
| 10:07.20 | anne | hi |
| 10:07.22 | anne | l |
| 10:07.32 | streuner | anne: stop that |
| 10:07.33 | wireddd | they are having a news conferance about it at 1:30 am est |
| 10:07.39 | wireddd | with sun apparently |
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| 10:08.01 | anne | rv- [#debian] Welcome to #Debian. This is a discussion |
| 10:08.15 | Shadur | anne: Please stop doing that. |
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| 10:08.21 | liable | anne: and your point is? |
| 10:08.28 | streuner | anne: we are all know this message.... |
| 10:08.34 | streuner | s/are/ / |
| 10:08.36 | keith | How Can I make "#" in kmirc? |
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| 10:08.52 | keith | yesterday I'm not able to log on chat |
| 10:08.59 | kikinovak | Hi. I just installed a DHCP server for a small LAN, and I want several machines to have fixed IPs. Works OK. One thing I don't grasp: hostname attribution. Is the hostname supposed to be configured in each machine (in /etc/hostname) or in dhcpd.conf? |
| 10:09.04 | liable | keith: you want to do what? irc as root? |
| 10:09.13 | keith | no |
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| 10:09.21 | keith | I'm a new user of debian |
| 10:09.25 | anne | hi |
| 10:09.31 | keith | and I try to understand |
| 10:10.05 | keith | to choose debian channel on the server I have to enter #debian |
| 10:10.16 | liable | yes.. |
| 10:10.20 | Shadur | keith: Yes, and? |
| 10:10.21 | keith | and my keyboard it is no possible |
| 10:10.33 | Shadur | keith: It's usually the symbol above the '3' key |
| 10:10.51 | wireddd | usually shift 3 |
| 10:10.54 | keith | yes but Alt Gr not go |
| 10:11.00 | kikinovak | keith you don't have to type #... /join debian is ok too:oD |
| 10:11.01 | saloxin | any prog that compares files - only looking for missing lines? i can't seem to get difff to do it |
| 10:11.02 | keith | also shift 3 |
| 10:11.09 | Shadur | keith: We said "shift" not "alt-gr" |
| 10:11.12 | Shadur | saloxin: diff -u |
| 10:11.33 | keith | yes I have tried too |
| 10:11.41 | liberty | cut n paste |
| 10:11.50 | keith | anyway i hope to enter tonight |
| 10:11.55 | wireddd | keith what keyboard layout? |
| 10:11.59 | saloxin | Shadur: nope - not here |
| 10:12.06 | keith | italian |
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| 10:12.40 | keith | is possible to go in private? |
| 10:12.46 | keith | io have to register |
| 10:13.01 | keith | how can I do? |
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| 10:13.28 | liberty | wow what happened to the ascii chart in xchat? |
| 10:13.36 | liberty | gone~ |
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| 10:16.04 | keith | kikinovak, why can't I go in private? |
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| 10:17.16 | Guerin | who needs an ascii chart? there's not exactly that many characters |
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| 10:17.36 | jacob | hey i was wondering has anyone else had problems installing kde in the testing version of debian |
| 10:17.52 | liable | keith: your not registered? |
| 10:18.06 | liable | jacob: prolly, check bts.. |
| 10:18.25 | jacob | bts? |
| 10:18.29 | nova | i installed slbackup webmin but it keeps hanging when i try to access it with a browser |
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| 10:18.48 | streuner | !bts |
| 10:18.48 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 10:19.07 | nova | !slbackup |
| 10:19.09 | nova | :) |
| 10:19.14 | liberty | guerin for the ol Euro symbol and high ascii there (used to be an ascii chart) you could look up the numbers |
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| 10:19.41 | liberty | anyway it *could* help the dude with no # key |
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| 10:20.09 | nova | some one who van help ? |
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| 10:21.02 | liable | keith: ask in #debian-it, they should be able to help.. |
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| 10:22.26 | nova500 | i installed slbackup webmin but it keeps hanging when i try to access it with a browser |
| 10:22.37 | Guerin | !extended chars |
| 10:22.38 | dpkg | methinks extended chars is to enter chars like ïÇô¿ or éâßñ in X, "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'". After that, you can use your rightmost windows key as a Compose key, e.g. pressing windows-key, ~, n in sequence will produce ñ or ñ, or the complete list of combinations is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/*/Compose, where * depends on your locale (iso8859-1 is default), or similar functionality for the console can be achieved using the ... |
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| 10:22.46 | Guerin | liberty: works for xchat etc. |
| 10:23.20 | liable | hrm, that factoid was cut off. |
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| 10:24.18 | Guerin | liable: the important bit is there |
| 10:24.30 | liable | Guerin: yeah, but.. |
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| 10:24.54 | nova500 | someone can help me or ??? |
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| 10:25.37 | liable | nova500: if no one answers, then probably ?? |
| 10:26.18 | metaperl | nova500: what is your question? |
| 10:26.32 | nova500 | metaperl: i installed slbackup webmin but it keeps hanging when i try to access it with a browser |
| 10:26.33 | Shadda | What the fuck |
| 10:26.36 | Shadda | what the _FUCK_ |
| 10:26.55 | Guerin | backups with webmin? *the horror* |
| 10:26.56 | Shadda | okay an hour ago php5-curl was working fine on this system. I haven't touched _anything_ since then |
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| 10:27.03 | Shadda | now its gone |
| 10:27.05 | nova500 | Guerin: just a frontend tool |
| 10:27.06 | Shadda | Its installed |
| 10:27.11 | Shadda | but it doesn't fucking work/show up |
| 10:27.18 | liable | hax0rz! |
| 10:27.19 | Guerin | nova500: webmin is bad. |
| 10:27.31 | Guerin | nova500: webmin makes everything it touches bad. |
| 10:27.35 | metaperl | nova500: i have no idea. there is webmin mailing list. I think at webmin.sf.net... you could also look at the apache logs to see whatis happning maybe. finally. is plain old webmin working and just this module failing? |
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| 10:28.00 | nova500 | metaperl: webmin is working expect this module |
| 10:28.12 | nova500 | Guerin: i think it it hits stable it is stable right? |
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| 10:28.25 | Guerin | nova500: haha. |
| 10:28.30 | yang | Is anyone using gmail ? And knows where to sign up for it? |
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| 10:28.40 | nova500 | yang: it is beta you must get a invite ;) |
| 10:28.46 | linex | hi |
| 10:29.08 | yang | nova500: from one existing user? |
| 10:29.53 | nova500 | yang: yup, i you give your email i can send you one |
| 10:30.16 | Shadda | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 10:30.29 | nova500 | metaperl: ok ty i'll check the mailinglist |
| 10:30.32 | sven-tek_gaim | i've heard there are conflicts between ubuntu and debian because the packages are incompatible - i wonder what reasons could cause incompatibility, or, why are they incompatible. Is there a logical reason for ubuntu-devs to stay incompatible? |
| 10:30.33 | Shadda | it took me all fucking day to get it working again! |
| 10:30.34 | liable | Shadda: stop saying that.. |
| 10:30.36 | Shadda | and now its broken |
| 10:30.37 | ntoll | yang, there are also sites that will forward "donated" gmail invites |
| 10:31.06 | ntoll | sven-tek_gaim, read this for an explination: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth |
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| 10:32.03 | Shadda | I mean what the hell could this be |
| 10:32.08 | Shadda | I haven't installed anything |
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| 10:32.14 | Shadda | It _worked_ |
| 10:32.17 | Guerin | !log |
| 10:32.17 | dpkg | Yeah, big guy, show me your /var/log!, or "It's /var/log, /var/log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's /var/log, /var/log, it's better than bad it's good!" |
| 10:32.23 | ricky_clarkson | Do local routes always take precedence over explicit/default routes? |
| 10:32.26 | kapul | is there any irc channel for debian programmers? |
| 10:32.35 | ricky_clarkson | kapul: #debian-devel |
| 10:32.41 | kapul | thx |
| 10:33.07 | ricky_clarkson | !x en pl no problem |
| 10:33.21 | ricky_clarkson | Gah, dpkg doesn't translate. |
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| 10:34.56 | erqie | exit |
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| 10:39.43 | pusling | any one able to tell stories about what /etc/ld.so.nohwcap is doing ? |
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| 10:41.19 | asuffield | disables the dynamic loader's use of hwcaps |
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| 10:42.28 | pusling | My program used linuxthreads when the file was present and ntpl when I removed it ... |
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| 10:44.47 | asuffield | yes, support for nptl is handled through hwcaps |
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| 10:49.13 | pusling | asuffield: so removing it is not a bad thing ... fine. |
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| 10:51.10 | eXa_bOy | my nics arnt connecting to anything. debian has detecting both but i try both with the cable and neither can connect. |
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| 10:51.19 | Shadda | /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache-mod-php5.prerm: line 13: apache-modconf: command not found |
| 10:51.21 | Shadda | bahh |
| 10:51.23 | Shadda | what the hell |
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| 10:51.58 | Shadda | anyone know what that means? |
| 10:52.46 | eXa_bOy | how do i work out which card is etc0? |
| 10:52.49 | eXa_bOy | *eth |
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| 10:53.10 | tarzeau | liberty: i'll try, thanks for the tip |
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| 10:54.37 | eXa_bOy | someone please |
| 10:54.42 | k_e_i_t_h | shadda, I have wrote a message in pvt |
| 10:54.49 | k_e_i_t_h | Have you received? |
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| 10:54.56 | Zrin | is there a channel where C++ programmers hang out? |
| 10:55.00 | beardy | eXa_bOy: dmesg | grep eth0 |
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| 10:55.33 | eXa_bOy | RealTek RTL8130 |
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| 10:55.40 | eXa_bOy | thanks |
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| 10:56.06 | Shadda | k_e_i_t_h: I have private messages on ignore. What do you need? |
| 10:56.13 | Shadda | Anyone know why I'd be getting apache-modconf: command not found |
| 10:56.15 | k_e_i_t_h | nothing |
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| 10:56.28 | k_e_i_t_h | I want to see if i'm registered |
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| 10:57.34 | eXa_bOy | ok link light is flashing just not pinging L:( |
| 10:57.43 | beardy | Shadda: You don't have it, or you're not trying to run it as root, or the path to it is not in your $PATH. |
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| 10:57.55 | Shadda | It's not an actuall package is the thing |
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| 10:58.25 | tarzeau | Zrin: yes, #c++ |
| 10:58.33 | liberty | tarzeau, hey |
| 10:58.38 | Zrin | thank you |
| 10:58.56 | liberty | tarzeau, Try the firefox extension "launchy" http://www.gemal.dk/mozilla/launchy.html |
| 10:59.07 | liberty | tarzeau, Launchy will enable you to open links and mailto's with external applications. |
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| 10:59.19 | tarzeau | liberty: yeah i have a backbuffer that i read |
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| 10:59.25 | tarzeau | liberty: thank you |
| 10:59.31 | liberty | np bro |
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| 10:59.34 | eXa_bOy | where do i modify my interfaces? |
| 10:59.49 | beardy | eXa_bOy: /etc/network/interfaces, man interfaces |
| 10:59.50 | eXa_bOy | .. /etc/???/interfaces |
| 10:59.55 | eXa_bOy | thank you |
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| 11:00.46 | Shadda | THERE |
| 11:00.52 | beardy | !tell fken|away about away |
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| 11:01.09 | eXa_bOy | works well now |
| 11:01.12 | eXa_bOy | thanks |
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| 11:01.35 | fken|away | beardy : how to write you are away only in one chan ? |
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| 11:02.08 | fken|away | anyway i am late |
| 11:02.10 | fken|away | see ya |
| 11:02.28 | plbgnr_ | hello I found in log for Apache this:"Secure LDAP (ldaps://) not supported. Rebuild auth_ldap" what can I do? |
| 11:02.41 | eXa_bOy | erm what do i do to configure my apt-get sources? |
| 11:02.43 | beardy | fken|away: I don't know. " ask in #yourircclient if you have questions." |
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| 11:03.54 | eXa_bOy | simple problem |
| 11:03.56 | beardy | fken|away: An ordinary "/me is going away" in the channel, if you have to do it. |
| 11:04.11 | emergo | can anyone help me get acrobat reader to work in opera ? |
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| 11:04.49 | eXa_bOy | its like sysinstall. but i cant remember |
| 11:04.50 | eXa_bOy | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.02 | emergo | I dont get any errors. Ive installed to npf or what the name was again |
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| 11:05.22 | pablob | hi |
| 11:05.50 | pablob | is it worth the difference to pay for a WXGA instead of a WSGA? |
| 11:05.53 | beardy | emergo: Neither is in debian, afaik |
| 11:06.07 | beardy | pablob: #hardware? |
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| 11:07.03 | eXa_bOy | beardy : how do you change your apt-get sources? |
| 11:07.09 | beardy | emergo: But probably under Options -> mime-types, or something like that. |
| 11:07.13 | pablob | beardy: ok |
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| 11:07.32 | beardy | eXa_bOy: apt-setup, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 11:08.02 | emergo | beardy: acroread opens, but doesnt send file correctly into acrobar 70 |
| 11:08.06 | eXa_bOy | thank you very much!!! |
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| 11:09.07 | beardy | emergo: As I said, it's not in debian, and not free. So you probably will get more help by googling, or asking the place where you downloaded it. |
| 11:09.38 | beardy | eXa_bOy: Thanks :) |
| 11:09.59 | Shadda | okay I need some help guys |
| 11:10.20 | emergo | beardy: apt-get install acroread work fine |
| 11:10.28 | Shadda | How would I go about setting up a virtual private server on my debian box...so that I could have essentially two seperate servers on the same box |
| 11:10.30 | beardy | emergo: Really? |
| 11:10.48 | Shadda | There's certain software I need that requires apache2, but I can't use apache2 for dev, it conflicts with too many packages |
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| 11:11.00 | Shadda | Does anyone have a link on doing this? |
| 11:11.01 | emergo | beardy: really |
| 11:11.04 | beardy | emergo: Via marillat I suppose then? |
| 11:11.14 | emergo | nope |
| 11:11.17 | beardy | !info acroread sarge |
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| 11:11.40 | emergo | bin there for ages if I remmeber correctly |
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| 11:12.08 | beardy | <dpkg> Package 'acroread' does not exist. |
| 11:12.50 | emergo | beardy: Maintainer: Christian Marillat <marillat@debian.org> |
| 11:12.56 | emergo | beardy: unstble |
| 11:13.02 | emergo | beardy: unstable |
| 11:13.20 | emergo | beardy: anyway itsa opera twirk I guess |
| 11:13.31 | beardy | emergo: Paste what 'cat /etc/debian_version' says. |
| 11:14.03 | beardy | emergo: marillat, as I said then, and not free. |
| 11:14.11 | emergo | beardy: testing/unstable |
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| 11:14.35 | emergo | beardy: weel acrobat have free version of acrobat |
| 11:14.57 | beardy | emergo: If you think you should run unstable, you can fix that too. |
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| 11:15.41 | beardy | !free |
| 11:15.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, free is defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. easier in french, or 'free beer' = gratuit 'free speech' = libre, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html, or free (procps) tells you how much memory is used/wasted ("Mem:"), and how much is being necessarily used/could be freed ("-/+ buffers/cache:") |
| 11:15.41 | emergo | beardy: I thougtI was runningunstable yes |
| 11:15.41 | beardy | !free software |
| 11:15.41 | dpkg | well, free software is at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html, or "Linus is in Finland and I am in The Netherlands. Are we reaching a situation where another critical industry, free software, that had been totally dominated by the U.S. is being taken over by the foreign competition?" - Andy Tanenbaum, Feb 1992. . Software Freedom Day is August 28th |
| 11:16.13 | emergo | beardy: why does it say both ? |
| 11:16.18 | beardy | emergo: You aren't. |
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| 11:16.32 | Glanzmann | I am looking for java packages for Sarge. |
| 11:16.38 | Glanzmann | What is the easiest way to install them? |
| 11:16.42 | beardy | Glanzmann: /topic |
| 11:16.52 | Glanzmann | Thanks. |
| 11:16.55 | emergo | beardy: I didnt do apt-get dist-upgrade for a while |
| 11:18.22 | beardy | emergo: I misread "runningunstable", Yes, you are running unstable. |
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| 11:20.14 | beardy | emergo: Are you running ubuntu, or debian? |
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| 11:20.54 | emergo | beardy: debian is the channel :-) |
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| 11:21.23 | emergo | beardy: well I tried using xpdf instead and works like a charm so,screw acrobat |
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| 11:21.45 | beardy | emergo: Not everyone realizes that. |
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| 11:21.58 | beardy | emergo: Good. |
| 11:22.18 | emergo | beardy: unfotunately,its 20 timesquicker and doesnt cause so much pain |
| 11:22.37 | emergo | like acroread |
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| 11:22.55 | eXa_bOy | whats the best gui for debian? |
| 11:23.09 | beardy | eXa_bOy: The one you prefer and like best. |
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| 11:23.20 | eXa_bOy | ok ive neved used a giu with linux |
| 11:23.29 | ricky_clarkson | eXa_bOy: I recommend X. |
| 11:23.41 | Skrotto | eXa_bOy: I'd say KDE or Gnome if it's your first. I prefer KDE :> |
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| 11:24.35 | eXa_bOy | interesting. |
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| 11:24.43 | eXa_bOy | how hard is it to install ? |
| 11:25.03 | eXa_bOy | ok thats the easy part, how hard is configuring it? |
| 11:25.04 | ricky_clarkson | eXa_bOy: apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 11:25.44 | beardy | eXa_bOy: apt-get install x-window-system (plus whatever window manager you like) |
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| 11:25.53 | eXa_bOy | nice |
| 11:26.16 | eXa_bOy | and does graphics cards become a problem? |
| 11:26.20 | beardy | !window manager |
| 11:26.20 | dpkg | i heard window manager is includes: 9wm, aewm, afterstep, amaterus, amiwm, asclassic, blackbox, ctwm, cwwm, enlightenment, evilwm, fluxbox, flwm, fvwm, icewm, ion, kwin, larswm, lwm, matchbox, metacity, nawm, olvwm, olwm, openbox, oroborus, plwm, pwm, qvwm, ratpoison, sapphire, sawfish, twm, uwm, vtwm, w9wm, waimea, wininfo, wm2, wmaker, and xfwm4. TWIN (Text mode). Pickers: selectwm and wmanager. No WM-picker-picker. Yet. |
| 11:26.28 | beardy | and there are more |
| 11:26.30 | Eclipser | eXa_bOy, depends on what card, probably not :) |
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| 11:27.20 | eXa_bOy | im running it on a EPIA Mini-ITX ML motherboard. |
| 11:27.36 | Eclipser | umh |
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| 11:27.44 | Eclipser | integrated graphics card? |
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| 11:27.54 | eXa_bOy | yes |
| 11:27.55 | Eclipser | sounds like laptop |
| 11:28.08 | beardy | eXa_bOy: lspci, should say which graphics card/chipset you have, or lspci -v |
| 11:28.24 | eXa_bOy | nah its not a laptop :) |
| 11:28.30 | Eclipser | google says "EPIA ML is fully compatible with Microsoft and Linux Operating Systems." |
| 11:28.33 | eXa_bOy | will try that beardy |
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| 11:28.39 | eXa_bOy | excellent :) |
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| 11:29.24 | eXa_bOy | i was running smoothwall on it. great firewall that is, problem is that it hoggs the box. |
| 11:29.47 | Eclipser | just simple iptables configuration will suffice |
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| 11:30.05 | beardy | eXa_bOy: firehol is nice |
| 11:30.10 | eXa_bOy | people tell me iptables are old school :P |
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| 11:30.31 | Eclipser | well, I guess I'm old school too |
| 11:30.31 | gudi | Eclipser, fwbuilder rocks.. but its better to know how iptables works |
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| 11:30.36 | beardy | eXa_bOy: not really, and what's wrong with that? |
| 11:30.43 | eXa_bOy | i remmebr iptables when i was playing around with my mandrake box 4 years ago |
| 11:30.46 | Eclipser | gudi, well yeah |
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| 11:31.03 | liable | smoothwall hogs the box? how so? |
| 11:31.13 | beardy | eXa_bOy: Every firewall package uses it. |
| 11:31.17 | gudi | iptables is not to heavy to learn.. tc is relly hard |
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| 11:31.28 | beardy | eXa_bOy: Just different ways of generating rules. |
| 11:31.31 | liable | eXa_bOy: iptables 4 years ago? |
| 11:31.33 | Dazgard | /dpkg java-package |
| 11:31.45 | eXa_bOy | i liked iptables. im just saying id like to beter use a server than JUST a firewall :) |
| 11:31.46 | liable | Dazgard: /msg dpkg .. |
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| 11:32.01 | olczyk | I use firestart, but I have a problem... reconfiguring it weach time I reboot. Does anyone know one that is good with DHCp with short leases? |
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| 11:32.20 | Dazgard | hi |
| 11:32.41 | beardy | olczyk: I use firehol and dnsmasq. |
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| 11:33.13 | beardy | olczyk: But I don't have short leases though, but I guess it should work fine. |
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| 11:34.01 | olczyk | eXa_bOy, So find an old Pentium box, configure that as a NAT/firewall. |
| 11:34.28 | eXa_bOy | im just using a hardware firewall now :) |
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| 11:34.41 | eXa_bOy | using my debian server to play around with vserver |
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| 11:35.10 | helpme | is there any command with which i can check if everything that ive installed via synaptic has been properly configured or not? |
| 11:35.11 | olczyk | beardy, thanks |
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| 11:35.54 | stew | helpme: dpkg --configure -a |
| 11:36.00 | TheW33D | hey how do you install mysql. we have php and apache running and install the mysql package but its not showing in phpinfo() |
| 11:36.06 | liable | helpme: dpkg -l |
| 11:36.13 | stew | TheW33D: apt-get install php4-mysql |
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| 11:37.19 | bwana147_ | while in mysql woes, I'm currently having trouble with mysql-server (it won't run) |
| 11:37.21 | TheW33D | stew: thanks :D |
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| 11:37.45 | eXa_bOy | #mysql bwana147_ |
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| 11:38.01 | liable | !mhallsmite mysql |
| 11:38.01 | dpkg | Fuck mysql. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 11:38.20 | eXa_bOy | errr... ok |
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| 11:38.23 | fireba11 | tztz |
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| 11:38.39 | stew | bwana147_: what happens when you start it? anything in the logs? what about if you run mysqld from the command line? |
| 11:38.57 | bwana147_ | '/etc/init.d/mysql start' says: |
| 11:38.59 | bwana147_ | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. |
| 11:38.59 | bwana147_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:38.59 | bwana147_ | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'ambroise' failed |
| 11:38.59 | bwana147_ | error: 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query' |
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| 11:39.12 | liable | bwanahaha |
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| 11:39.20 | stew | !tell bwana147_ about flood |
| 11:39.22 | beardy | bwana147_: /msg dpkg paster |
| 11:39.46 | bwana147_ | sorry, I really thought it was small enough |
| 11:39.49 | bwana147_ | anyway |
| 11:39.59 | stew | bwana147_: do you have error logging turned on in my.cnf? |
| 11:40.04 | bwana147_ | I can't see anything worthy in /var/log/mysql* |
| 11:40.08 | helpme | liable: it simply lists what installed....and overflows out of the terminal! |
| 11:40.19 | liable | helpme: less it! |
| 11:40.26 | beardy | helpme: command | less |
| 11:40.32 | liable | helpme: it shows its status too! |
| 11:40.48 | helpme | plz give full command once more........ |
| 11:40.53 | liable | no |
| 11:40.57 | beardy | helpme: scroll up? |
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| 11:41.22 | eXa_bOy | is there a way to backup an entire debian install? |
| 11:41.30 | stew | bwana147_: iirc you want a "err-log=/var/log/mysql/mysql.err" in my.cnf |
| 11:41.43 | eXa_bOy | without DVD, cd burner or network? |
| 11:41.48 | liable | eXa_bOy: /msg dpkg backup |
| 11:41.57 | stew | rube goldberg backup? |
| 11:42.02 | liable | hah |
| 11:42.06 | bwana147_ | stew: seemingly. There's a comment in my.cnf that reads "error log goes to syslog (debian improvement) |
| 11:42.19 | stew | bwana147_: /var/log/syslog then |
| 11:42.32 | bwana147_ | and, er, I must admit I don't really know where to read the syslog :-[ |
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| 11:42.38 | bwana147_ | stew: thanks a bunch |
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| 11:42.56 | stew | and err-log=/... should still work |
| 11:43.01 | beardy | eXa_bOy: apt-cache search backup |
| 11:43.09 | eXa_bOy | thanks |
| 11:43.27 | beardy | eXa_bOy: There are lots of different ways, and different views on what should be included in a backup. |
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| 11:44.18 | eXa_bOy | im talking almost norton ghost type backup. cause i want to start back where i am now. cause im about to stuff it up :P can domt wamt to install it all again |
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| 11:44.34 | helpme | have mercy:( |
| 11:44.51 | helpme | is it dpkg -l | less? |
| 11:45.03 | liable | eXa_bOy: well if you want to be a windows tard, then partimage is for you.. |
| 11:45.08 | liable | helpme: yes |
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| 11:45.58 | petemc | liable: using a tool like partimage makes you a "windows tard"? |
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| 11:46.04 | liable | eXa_bOy: which, iirc isnt available on sarge or etch, but knoppix does have it.. |
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| 11:46.21 | Shadda | anyone know if you can install openvz on debian? |
| 11:46.34 | helpme | im getting lots of package names, some starting with ii, ih, ic??? |
| 11:46.38 | beardy | !tell Shadda about search |
| 11:46.47 | Shadda | I've been looking |
| 11:46.49 | beardy | helpme: Use less, as we said. |
| 11:46.52 | liable | petemc: the "i want something like norton ghost" does yes. if you dont want to find out how to do it otherwise... |
| 11:47.13 | helpme | ive used the same command - dpkg -l | less?? |
| 11:47.17 | Shadda | beardy: already checked out apt-cache but like a lot of packages (user mode linux, for instance) its not always obvious |
| 11:47.40 | Shadda | also, the website only offers rpms, and even after converting to .deb the install fails |
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| 11:47.46 | stew | helpme: there is a legend at the top, ii == installed / ih = half installed / ic means it was installed and remoeved and you've requested it to be reinstalled |
| 11:47.50 | Shadda | which is why I'm wondering if anyone knows if its _possible_ :) |
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| 11:48.03 | beardy | Shadda: Read the factoid. |
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| 11:48.08 | helpme | eXa_bOy: i know a way i was told............. |
| 11:48.26 | beardy | !find openvz sarge |
| 11:48.35 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'openvz' returned no results. |
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| 11:48.53 | eXa_bOy | sif call me a windows tard. go fuk yourself. im trying to learn this shit so leave me alone. at least im giving it a go |
| 11:49.08 | bwana147_ | stew: syslog says 'Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist' |
| 11:49.10 | beardy | eXa_bOy: calm down |
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| 11:49.26 | bwana147_ | do I have to manually initialise the database ? |
| 11:49.28 | helpme | copy this folder to a cd (or other media).....lemme remember its path..... |
| 11:49.37 | helpme | eXa_bOy: hey vhill out dude..... |
| 11:49.43 | helpme | chill out |
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| 11:50.04 | senac__ | je suis besoin d'un aide |
| 11:50.14 | streuner | !fr |
| 11:50.14 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 11:50.17 | liable | !br |
| 11:50.17 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 11:50.22 | stew | bwana147_: what version of mysql is this? |
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| 11:50.47 | senac__ | merci |
| 11:50.48 | stew | bwana147_: you should not have to manually initialize anything. has this been installed for a while then upgraded or is this a new install or what? |
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| 11:50.59 | bwana147_ | 4.0.24 |
| 11:51.29 | tony_the_cable_g | Hi |
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| 11:51.34 | bwana147_ | I used to have a running installation (only my addressbook, mind you, nothing "mission critical") |
| 11:51.41 | beardy | hmm, partimage-doc is in sarge |
| 11:51.48 | bwana147_ | then I noticed after a boot up that it would not start |
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| 11:51.50 | senac__ | comme puis je faire pour debian-fr ? |
| 11:52.00 | bwana147_ | I removed (--purge) anything mysql |
| 11:52.03 | helpme | eXa_bOy: burn this folder to cd /var/cahe/apt/archives..........when u do fresh install again, put this dir back in place....do apt-get and ur done! |
| 11:52.05 | liable | beardy: but is the program? |
| 11:52.14 | nkuttler | senac__: ecris "/join #debian-fr" dans cette fenetre |
| 11:52.15 | bwana147_ | re apt-get install mysql-server |
| 11:52.19 | bwana147_ | but to no avail |
| 11:52.20 | beardy | senac__: I don't understand, but yes, in #debian-fr they speak french. |
| 11:52.21 | streuner | !info partimage sarge |
| 11:52.25 | helpme | eXa_bOy: no need of internet..... |
| 11:52.27 | eXa_bOy | thanks |
| 11:52.27 | senac__ | merci |
| 11:52.38 | helpme | eXa_bOy: welcome |
| 11:52.47 | xelam | helpme: what's the matter? :P |
| 11:52.53 | stew | bwana147_: look at #322802 in the bts |
| 11:53.01 | Shadda | k 'nother tard question here...a package failed to install, now it prompts me to install it everytime I run apt-get |
| 11:53.07 | Shadda | how do I tell dpkg to forget about it |
| 11:53.12 | nkuttler | Shadda: why does it fail? |
| 11:53.14 | eXa_bOy | lol |
| 11:53.33 | beardy | streuner: mindi-partimagehack, but I have no idea what mindi-mondi is.. |
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| 11:53.34 | Shadda | nkuttler: it's an rpm for openvzkernel I converted with alien |
| 11:53.41 | Shadda | I doubt Its even possible to install |
| 11:53.51 | streuner | beardy: sure, partimage is not in sarge |
| 11:53.56 | Handmade | hi~ : ) |
| 11:54.00 | nkuttler | Shadda: uh... try apt-get remove or dpkg -r |
| 11:54.00 | stew | Shadda: dpkg -r pkgname |
| 11:54.19 | beardy | streuner: That's why I found it strange that the doc package was. |
| 11:54.19 | Shadda | lol |
| 11:54.20 | Shadda | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.20 | Shadda | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.26 | bwana147_ | stew++ |
| 11:54.30 | streuner | !info partimage-doc sarge |
| 11:54.35 | dpkg | partimage-doc: (Partition Image User Documentation), section doc, is optional. Version: 20020126-8 (sarge), Packaged size: 70 kB, Installed size: 220 kB |
| 11:54.37 | Handmade | I have some kind of kernel compile & kernel panic |
| 11:55.02 | streuner | beardy: true |
| 11:55.02 | liable | beardy: its in sid, used to be in sarge, dunno the exact reasons.. |
| 11:55.13 | senac_ | please speak in portuguese |
| 11:55.13 | Handmade | while linux boot, initrd.img file must exist? |
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| 11:55.24 | stew | streuner: nice so there is docs, but no actual sarge package? |
| 11:55.27 | beardy | !info mindi-partimagehack sarge |
| 11:55.31 | dpkg | mindi-partimagehack: (disk partition imaging utility for Mindi/Mondo), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.2-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 136 kB, Installed size: 416 kB |
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| 11:55.42 | stew | senac_: /j #debian-br |
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| 11:56.00 | streuner | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=partimage&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
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| 11:56.25 | Shadda | oi |
| 11:56.26 | stew | Handmade: you either need to compile the drivers for your root filesystem and hard disk controller directly into the kenrel (not as modules) or use an initrd |
| 11:56.28 | Shadda | I can't remove this package |
| 11:56.31 | Miesco | Is there a program for windows that can connect to a X server? |
| 11:56.32 | streuner | stew: yep |
| 11:56.37 | Shadda | Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should |
| 11:56.38 | Shadda | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.41 | Shadda | so I set --force-all |
| 11:56.50 | Shadda | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:57.04 | nkuttler | Shadda: why does the install fail? is it the postinst script? |
| 11:57.05 | stew | Shadda: edit thie postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 11:57.18 | liable | Shadda: lesson: dont install fucked up converted rpms... |
| 11:57.21 | Guerin | !force-all |
| 11:57.21 | dpkg | force-all means you're working against the packaging system, not with it. Sometimes packages are broken and it's necessary, but almost always it means you're doing something wrong, and are setting yourself up for bigger problems down the line. |
| 11:57.26 | liable | Shadda: edit the status file.. |
| 11:57.28 | beardy | Miesco: cygwin with X |
| 11:57.52 | Miesco | K |
| 11:57.54 | stew | apt-get install alien should come with big blinky warning messages |
| 11:58.02 | MoRLoCh | Miesco: there is also a cygwin Live X cd |
| 11:58.04 | eXa_bOy | lol |
| 11:58.05 | Guerin | !force-all is also YOU NEVER NEED TO USE --force-all. EVER. You might think you do, but YOU DO NOT. Don't fucking use it. |
| 11:58.05 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 11:58.13 | Shadda | liable: which, I see many files for this package in info/ |
| 11:58.19 | Shadda | oh, postinst, duh |
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| 11:58.31 | eXa_bOy | ;p; |
| 11:58.31 | Shadda | [ -x /sbin/new-kernel-pkg ] && /sbin/new-kernel-pkg --mkinitrd --depmod --install 2.6.8-022stab038.1 |
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| 11:58.33 | Shadda | just remove that? |
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| 11:58.42 | helpme | if synaptic is downloading a big package and i get a powercut, on reboot i'll get inconsistent fs (which can be repaired), but if i again ask synaptic to install that package, will it only download half of it saving me bandwidth or not? |
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| 11:58.50 | TheW33D | which ftp sever is the best. cli only no gui |
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| 11:59.00 | stew | !best |
| 11:59.00 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 11:59.00 | liable | Shadda: wtf were you trying to install? |
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| 11:59.06 | Shadda | liable: openvz |
| 11:59.06 | Handmade | i use linux whole hdd, and I use MBR, not bootpartition, and built in ext3(i use ext3 file system),, and use debian testing, what is problem? I really dont know (and installed gcc 3.3 gcc 4.0, so I change gcc-3.3 file to gcc..) |
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| 11:59.09 | Shadda | it's a vps thing |
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| 11:59.13 | stew | are there ftp servers with guis? |
| 11:59.18 | Shadda | www.openvz.org |
| 11:59.24 | xelam | IIS ;) |
| 11:59.31 | Ronin | stew: several have pretty gui addon frontends |
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| 11:59.33 | vladi_here | :-) |
| 11:59.38 | Heliano | xx |
| 11:59.41 | joacir | e agora? |
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| 12:00.01 | stew | Handmade: did you compile in the driver for your HD controller? (IDE / SATA / SCSI controller) |
| 12:00.05 | nkuttler | !br |
| 12:00.06 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 12:00.08 | edvard | O micro sem programas quanto custaria? |
| 12:00.09 | Handmade | yes.. |
| 12:00.17 | Shadda | liable: so what do I do with this vzkernel.postinst file? |
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| 12:00.24 | stew | edvard: /j #debian-br |
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| 12:00.28 | joacir | que negócio mais chato |
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| 12:00.40 | tarzeau | liberty!!! |
| 12:00.47 | Handmade | I got kind of answer that make initrd... so I will make initrd.img... |
| 12:00.47 | tarzeau | damned launchy crap doesn't find any app |
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| 12:00.51 | joacir | ninguém responde |
| 12:00.54 | tarzeau | I SO HATE MOZILLA AND FIREFOX |
| 12:00.55 | ircops | !es |
| 12:00.55 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:01.12 | Handmade | if that(initrd.img-xxx) problem too.. I Will sleep... |
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| 12:01.29 | liable | Shadda: nothing, remove it from dpkg's status file, which is ugly, and will leave all other files it may have installed, but should get apt working again.. |
| 12:01.36 | stew | Handmade: make sure your bootloader knows about the initrd |
| 12:01.41 | Shadda | where's the status file? |
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| 12:01.47 | liable | ... |
| 12:01.52 | Shadda | (sorry) |
| 12:02.05 | joacir | tchau |
| 12:02.13 | Handmade | I ll try.. |
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| 12:02.28 | streuner | !ops 201-24-133-194.gnace300.ipd.brasiltelecom.net.br trolling here, first he asking for help in french, some people told him, now he asking in brasil, he is still here with different nicks |
| 12:02.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: 201-24-133-194.gnace300.ipd.brasiltelecom.net.br trolling here, first he asking for help in french, some people told him, now he asking in brasil, he is still here with different nicks |
| 12:02.45 | kikinovak | Hi. I have a small LAN where clients are connected to a Debian box with a DHCP server. They all share a dialup connection (no dsl here:o( ), and it works OK. Clients can ping IP adresses on the internet OK, but can't resolve names. Question: where to I have to put the DNS information? In every client's /etc/resolv.conf? Or can it be done more elegantly in dhcpd.conf? |
| 12:03.14 | Guerin | kikinovak: each client needs its own resolv.conf. this can be set by dhcp |
| 12:03.18 | streuner | hm, gone |
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| 12:03.25 | xelam | eh |
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| 12:03.29 | xelam | spamm0r |
| 12:03.30 | Shadur | Spoke too soon. |
| 12:03.31 | Shadda | found it |
| 12:03.34 | kikinovak | Guerin 1) thanks 2) how? |
| 12:03.35 | Handmade | I have one question more, 'make-kpkg binary-arch' and 'make-kpkg binary' whitch is right? I use 2Ghz Celleron.. |
| 12:03.45 | xelam | ban! |
| 12:03.49 | tarzeau | where do i put *.xpi files for mozilla or firefox? |
| 12:03.53 | Guerin | kikinovak: 1) no problem 2) man dhcpd |
| 12:03.59 | tarzeau | and how do i access the extension or plugin or whatever shit they call it? |
| 12:04.01 | Shadur | Handmade: use kernel-image and let kpkg worry about the problem. |
| 12:04.10 | kikinovak | Guerin you mean the info can be set server-side? |
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| 12:04.27 | kikinovak | Guerin so I don't have to manually configure each client? |
| 12:04.34 | TheW33D | what is the command to find a folder size in cli? |
| 12:04.35 | Guerin | kikinovak: sure. |
| 12:04.41 | kikinovak | Guerin thanks |
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| 12:04.45 | Shadur | TheW33D: du? |
| 12:04.48 | stew | TheW33D: iirc you point your browser at the xpi |
| 12:04.49 | Handmade | : (.. I want kernel compile myself... : ) |
| 12:04.50 | streuner | TheW33D: man du |
| 12:04.52 | stew | tarzeau: ^^^^ |
| 12:05.00 | eXa_bOy | Guerin : hows things? |
| 12:05.06 | tarzeau | stew: not if you have 3000 users |
| 12:05.24 | stew | tarzeau: yeah, certainly not |
| 12:05.29 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: beer |
| 12:05.29 | tarzeau | stew: ok, where do i put it? |
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| 12:05.40 | eXa_bOy | lol... good to hear |
| 12:05.51 | Shadur | Handmade: That's what I meant. make-kpkg kernel-image |
| 12:05.53 | liable | Handmade: and the reason for that is? p |
| 12:06.16 | TheW33D | why is copying while smbfs so slow |
| 12:06.21 | liable | whats that factoid? |
| 12:06.38 | Handmade | aha..^^; |
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| 12:06.46 | tarzeau | i can't believe nobody knows it, so popular and so crappy |
| 12:06.47 | Miesco | Is there a text browser that can go to http://192.168.2.1 and be able to login |
| 12:06.54 | Miesco | to set up my router |
| 12:07.01 | tarzeau | Miesco: https or not? |
| 12:07.09 | stew | tarzeau: what I would do is to install it locally, and copy the resultant ~/.mozilla/firefox/___/extensions/{xxxx} folder to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions/ |
| 12:07.12 | Miesco | http |
| 12:07.12 | streuner | Miesco: lynx or links |
| 12:07.15 | eXa_bOy | lynx is text based |
| 12:07.17 | stew | tarzeau: don't know if there is a more proper way though |
| 12:07.20 | Handmade | hey geeks^^, would U introduce some kind of funny channels^^? |
| 12:07.26 | Miesco | lynx doesn't have frames though |
| 12:07.29 | Miesco | links will? |
| 12:07.32 | streuner | yes |
| 12:07.32 | tarzeau | stew: you know i do that already, |
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| 12:07.53 | tarzeau | stew: and it's a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS to fix peoples home directories and force them to close the browser |
| 12:07.58 | eXa_bOy | you get your ssh working darkness? |
| 12:07.59 | tarzeau | stew: so NO THIS IS NOT THE SOLUTION |
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| 12:08.21 | tarzeau | the locking crap of mozilla and firefox is another fucking piece of shit |
| 12:08.22 | stew | no reason to get all shouty |
| 12:08.23 | darkness | No eXa_b0y. |
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| 12:08.29 | Guerin | Handmade: #123 is funny |
| 12:08.30 | xelam | tarzeau: take a chill pill |
| 12:08.37 | tarzeau | stew: i have seen bad software, but this browser just makes me freak out |
| 12:08.43 | Handmade | Guerin/thx^^ |
| 12:08.49 | Guerin | Handmade: you're welcome. |
| 12:08.49 | tarzeau | xelam: do you ship them to europe? |
| 12:09.00 | tarzeau | xelam: they don't give chill pills without prescription here |
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| 12:09.06 | xelam | already in Europe :p |
| 12:09.24 | tarzeau | xelam: if you can get me a few, i'll gladly buy them from you |
| 12:09.28 | Handmade | ...god... #123 no one there... |
| 12:09.34 | darkness | I can't understand why ssh doesn't work. I asked for ssh to run when i installed.Port 22 is open on the router. Mmm, does the cmd ps aux |grep ssh tell me if ssh is running? |
| 12:09.37 | liable | haha |
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| 12:09.57 | liable | darkness: netstat -pantu |
| 12:09.59 | Handmade | Guerin, U joke me? |
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| 12:10.34 | Miesco | With links, when I connect this is all I get: <HTML><SCRIPT>location.href="userfail.htm";</SCRIPT></HTML> |
| 12:10.40 | Miesco | It doesn't prompt me to login |
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| 12:10.51 | eXa_bOy | lol |
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| 12:11.04 | liable | !tell Handmade about qotd123 |
| 12:11.14 | streuner | Miesco: telnet then |
| 12:11.34 | Miesco | streuner: telnet where |
| 12:11.36 | Guerin | Handmade: not at all. It'll be hilarious if you and a few other funny characters go in there. |
| 12:11.48 | Gijs` | Miesco: netcat then ;) |
| 12:11.53 | streuner | Miesco: your router hasn't telnet? |
| 12:12.01 | Handmade | hahaha...=_=;; |
| 12:12.02 | stew | tarzeau: when you copied the extension to /usr/lib/ did you edit the .rdf file? |
| 12:12.03 | darkness | Liable: tks netstat -pantu as r00t doesn't show sshd? |
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| 12:12.14 | Miesco | streuner, absolutly not, its the router sympatico sent me |
| 12:12.19 | liable | darkness: guess its not running then? |
| 12:12.20 | tarzeau | stew: huh? i didn't know i must copy them to /usr/lib |
| 12:12.21 | Handmade | My soul gone to hell..-_-; |
| 12:12.30 | tarzeau | stew: edit the .rdf XML EYE CANCER FILE? |
| 12:12.34 | tarzeau | stew: you must be kidding |
| 12:12.39 | stew | nm, sorry |
| 12:12.45 | MoRLoCh | Miesco: maybe your router con pages use javascript? |
| 12:12.50 | MoRLoCh | conf |
| 12:12.58 | darkness | liable: Can i force ssh to run or is there mabe an underlieing reason for it not to? |
| 12:13.06 | ircops | tarzeau: I work at an opthalmologists' office... we might be able to help with that eye cancer hehehe |
| 12:13.08 | liable | darkness: dunno |
| 12:13.08 | Miesco | moreon: It uses AUTH |
| 12:13.12 | Miesco | sorry |
| 12:13.18 | Miesco | MoRLoCh: It uses AUTH |
| 12:13.56 | Handmade | What Can I do while kernel compile... It take about 2hours..: ( |
| 12:14.03 | stew | tarzeau: you said that you already copied them to /usr/lib/ ... |
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| 12:14.37 | darkness | When trying to run sshd as root i get the error. |
| 12:14.38 | liable | and Guerin too, while i'm at it.. :P |
| 12:14.52 | Handmade | I ll Be Back..^^; (reboot) |
| 12:15.24 | jaybuffet | ok so i tried compiling the kernel... i think i missed an option.. when it tries to boot it does several of the first steps (about a screen worth) then goes black with a blinking cursor on the bottom.. how do i figure out what option im missing ? |
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| 12:15.34 | Miesco | How do I connect to a X server? |
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| 12:15.45 | darkness | /etc/ssh/sshd_config line 26: Bad yes/without-password/forced-commands-only/no argument: No |
| 12:16.28 | stew | darkness: sounds to me like you need to replace No with no |
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| 12:16.46 | nkuttler | Miesco: what do you mean? |
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| 12:17.00 | eXa_bOy | start x? |
| 12:17.03 | MoRLoCh | Miesco: the concept "X server" is a little confusing |
| 12:17.18 | MoRLoCh | Miesco: usually with "X server" you mean actually client |
| 12:17.24 | stew | MoRLoCh: ? |
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| 12:17.46 | Miesco | MoRLoCh: I want to run my browser on my debian computer at home |
| 12:17.53 | MoRLoCh | stew: it's confusing because the server is needed on the "client" pc |
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| 12:18.03 | stew | MoRLoCh: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 12:18.04 | stew | err |
| 12:18.05 | nkuttler | Miesco: /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 12:18.09 | stew | yeah |
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| 12:18.32 | eXa_bOy | ftp.iinet.com.au dead? |
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| 12:18.45 | eXa_bOy | ftp.iinet.net.au dead? |
| 12:18.45 | MoRLoCh | Miesco: you need to ssh with x forwarding, but you need a X server running on your actual PC |
| 12:19.20 | Miesco | MoRLoCh: I got that with Cygwin |
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| 12:20.39 | bartden | hi, i need some help with kxdocker, i'm trying to configure the docker but when i reboot or restart kxdocker i keep getting the same docker, when i remove certain aliases save the config, or even save as the config, and restart the docker, it starts up and shows with certain aliases i deleted |
| 12:20.44 | MoRLoCh | Miesco: then ssh -X to your machine from cygwin and launch the browser... you might want to let the server accept connections from your home PC (xhost might be a way but beware of the security because xhost allows any connection from that IP) |
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| 12:21.59 | flo | hi, how can i start mozilla as another user as that i am logged in? xhost + doesnt work |
| 12:22.01 | jm_ | you don't need to use xhost - that's the idea with ssh x11 forwarding |
| 12:22.14 | jm_ | !tell flo -about sux |
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| 12:22.34 | gudi | flo, su username -c "comand" |
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| 12:22.39 | jaybuffet | how do i keep log for each boot.. it seems dmesg gets reset each time |
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| 12:23.07 | jm_ | dmesg displays the contents of kernel's ring buffer, Debian creates dmesg.log with it, then there's bootlogd |
| 12:23.26 | jaybuffet | jm_: whats bootlogd |
| 12:23.33 | jm_ | jaybuffet: read its man page |
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| 12:23.37 | jaybuffet | ok |
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| 12:23.53 | flo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.56 | olczyk | Hey where can I find the Monitors file that is part of the XFree stuff? |
| 12:24.16 | jaybuffet | jm_: does bootlogd run automatically |
| 12:24.26 | jm_ | jaybuffet: no, you have to enable it |
| 12:24.34 | tarzeau | stew: no i haven't |
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| 12:24.36 | darkness | funny, evertime i try and apt-get install ssh i get errors.Are there any known issues with ssh and sarge? |
| 12:24.46 | tarzeau | stew: i was asking where i would copy the xpi files |
| 12:24.58 | tarzeau | darkness: no there aren't |
| 12:25.04 | tarzeau | darkness: what errors do you get exactly? |
| 12:25.21 | darkness | Tarzeau, can i paste them somewhere? |
| 12:25.34 | jaybuffet | jm_: ok.. will bootlogd catch all the boot log.. or only after its initialized |
| 12:25.44 | jm_ | jaybuffet: the latter |
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| 12:25.54 | tarzeau | darkness: sure , i prefer /var/www/theerror.txt |
| 12:26.45 | liable | jaybuffet: well, i doubt anything will actually tel you what you fucked up in your kernel compile... |
| 12:26.48 | jaybuffet | jm_: how would i maintain a log of all the boot log.. each time it boots.. (the prob im having is the boot stops at a certain point and i want to see the errors it has, but i have to reboot to an older kernel to get to the shell) |
| 12:27.07 | flo | i have automaticall started firefox at bootup, then i try to switch to another website with "mozilla www.google.com", but i only get, cannot open display |
| 12:27.12 | jaybuffet | liable: i would like to know at least where it crapped out at |
| 12:27.25 | darkness | tarzeau: errors pasted in #pastebin. |
| 12:27.27 | liable | jaybuffet: with compiling a kernel? :P |
| 12:27.31 | jaybuffet | liable: then compare it to my valid boot which seems to have everything enables |
| 12:27.32 | jm_ | jaybuffet: bootlogd is one of the first things that gets started - if the error occurs after it, then it will be logged into its logfile |
| 12:27.48 | Miesco | It didn't work, I did ssh -X, and it just did normal ssh |
| 12:28.04 | nkuttler | Miesco: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 12:28.20 | jm_ | jaybuffet: you can always call it with -r |
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| 12:28.42 | jm_ | ahh Debian does that anyway |
| 12:29.34 | liable | jaybuffet: i doubt any log will tell you what you did wrong in regards to your kernel compile. |
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| 12:30.03 | jaybuffet | liable: the kernel compiled.. i just missed a setting or 2 to make my system bootable |
| 12:30.08 | jaybuffet | jm_: ill try it |
| 12:30.48 | liable | jaybuffet: yes, i can compile a misconfigured kernel too! doesnt mean it will work.. |
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| 12:31.08 | mirak | is there a way to use X server in the same way than VNC ? VNC have really horrible performances, even on a LAN, while X performs almost like if it's local |
| 12:31.13 | darkness | Any ideas tarzeau? |
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| 12:31.40 | tarzeau | darkness: i can't join #pastebin, too much channels, bug #freenode |
| 12:31.52 | tarzeau | darkness: or put it to /var/www/some.txt and run thttpd |
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| 12:32.11 | tarzeau | mirak: no |
| 12:32.36 | pureone | darkness use pastebin.com or .org i forget |
| 12:32.40 | sn00p | is 1.0.7 out for debian yet? |
| 12:33.14 | tarzeau | sn00p: of what? |
| 12:33.20 | sn00p | firefox |
| 12:33.26 | pureone | yes |
| 12:33.32 | sven-tek_gaim | iam running a installation on a laptop, i choosed "desktop installation" - but wow its like suse, hundrets of packages gnome, kde and others i will never need :-( |
| 12:33.44 | stew | sn00p: http://packages.debian.org/mozilla-firefox |
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| 12:33.48 | tarzeau | pureone: yes for unstable only, right? |
| 12:34.02 | pureone | let me check |
| 12:34.16 | sn00p | its unstabl |
| 12:34.18 | sn00p | unstable |
| 12:34.28 | tarzeau | why do they call it lightweight? |
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| 12:34.47 | sn00p | it doesn't say for linux though |
| 12:34.58 | sn00p | unstable (web): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla |
| 12:34.58 | sn00p | 1.0.7-1: alpha amd64 hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 spa |
| 12:35.03 | sn00p | or is it i386 |
| 12:35.44 | stew | sn00p: all of those are linux |
| 12:35.53 | sn00p | yea |
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| 12:36.08 | darkness | tarzeau: pastebin.com/382573 |
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| 12:36.47 | stew | darkness: did you try replacing No with no? |
| 12:37.07 | eXa_bOy | whats the best way of installing mysql server php and apache? |
| 12:37.15 | darkness | stew, i never saw No on line 26. |
| 12:37.21 | darkness | in sshd_config. |
| 12:37.30 | Sepho | anybody uses apache2??? |
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| 12:37.37 | xelam | YES!!! |
| 12:37.44 | eXa_bOy | yes |
| 12:37.52 | pureone | ya |
| 12:37.53 | stew | darkness: what is on line 26? |
| 12:37.56 | Sepho | I've one problem... |
| 12:37.56 | Maulkin | I'm sure some people out there do. |
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| 12:38.16 | jsan | good mornig my friends |
| 12:38.31 | stew | eXa_bOy: apt-get install mysql-server php4-mysql apache |
| 12:38.43 | eXa_bOy | thanks stew |
| 12:38.57 | stew | eXa_bOy: s/apache/apache2/ if you desire |
| 12:39.07 | Sepho | the DocumentRoot default is /var/www/ but to put files there I need to login as root, but I want to set my /home/ directory as DocumentRoot directory to can put files as normal user, but in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf I don't see where can I change DocumentRoot directory |
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| 12:39.37 | jaybuffet | jm_: bootlogd starts too late |
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| 12:39.45 | stew | Sepho: why not change the gropu ownership of /var/www/ ? |
| 12:39.46 | jaybuffet | jm: its an error before that |
| 12:39.52 | stew | err group |
| 12:39.52 | Tortel | hmm |
| 12:40.05 | Tortel | how much space would every debian package take up? |
| 12:40.14 | stew | !dstats |
| 12:40.21 | Sepho | how can i change permisions to read-write to all directories and sub-directories inside /var/ww/ ? |
| 12:40.23 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sid... 17290 packages, 1599 maintainers, 34270 MB installed size, 10958 MB compressed size. |
| 12:40.35 | Tortel | damn |
| 12:40.39 | Tortel | i cant install it all |
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| 12:40.46 | sven-tek_gaim | lol |
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| 12:40.55 | Tortel | unless i take more space away from me windows partition |
| 12:41.05 | Ronin | theres no way to install it all anyhow Tortel |
| 12:41.09 | darkness | Stew: silly me, i edited line 26 to read allow root priv to No.I've now changed that to no. |
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| 12:41.29 | Sepho | stew? |
| 12:41.30 | sven-tek_gaim | Tortel: you should only install software you need |
| 12:41.32 | stew | Sepho: chown -R sepho /var/www ; <- would make sepho the owner of /var/www/ and all files under it |
| 12:41.36 | runa_ | hey :) how can I reinstall a deb and all it's dependencies? |
| 12:41.36 | Tortel | Ronin: well, using the package manager you can get alot of it |
| 12:41.43 | Sepho | thanks ;) |
| 12:41.56 | Set_Killer | hey guys |
| 12:42.00 | fabsmad | I'v upgraded my kernel from 2.6.12-8-386 to 2.6.12-9-386. Wen I boot grub shows me the two kernels. How can I delete the kernel-2.6.12-8-386? |
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| 12:42.09 | Set_Killer | where can i find KDE for debian ? |
| 12:42.11 | Ronin | Tortel: sure, you can use apt-get to get a lot too but to actually install every debian package i suspect is impossible |
| 12:42.23 | stew | runa_: apt-get install --reinstall pkgname ; i don't know of a way to explicitly reinstall all the dependencies; why? |
| 12:42.25 | Tortel | Ronin: probably :P |
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| 12:42.43 | stew | fabsmad: dpkg -r pkgname |
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| 12:43.04 | stew | Set_Killer: apt-get install kde |
| 12:43.08 | runa_ | stew: I don't know. my firefox was working well yesterday night, and today it won't start (asks for the global password and stays there) |
| 12:43.20 | Set_Killer | thx stew |
| 12:43.26 | stew | runa_: how does it ask for the "global password"? |
| 12:43.34 | runa_ | stew: a gtk dialog |
| 12:43.43 | fabsmad | stew: thanks |
| 12:43.44 | stew | runa_: what version of debian? what version of firefox? |
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| 12:44.08 | runa_ | stew: debian is testing, ff is from unstable (testing does the same). debian amd64, everything up to date |
| 12:44.22 | stew | runa_: so you type "firefox" and you get a gtk dialog asking for a "global password" ? sounds suspect. |
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| 12:44.40 | runa_ | stew: it's a ff feature, it crypts all your passwords with a main one |
| 12:44.53 | runa_ | stew: don't be paranoid :) |
| 12:44.59 | stew | runa_: via a 3td party extension? |
| 12:45.04 | runa_ | stew: nope |
| 12:45.04 | stew | err 3rd |
| 12:45.14 | Miesco | I start xs and I just get an empty window |
| 12:45.25 | eXa_bOy | x = 105 MB o_0 |
| 12:45.57 | aum | hi - does anyone know any sites that maintain a list of known advertiser domains (such as doubleclick) that i can import into tbird adblock? |
| 12:45.59 | stew | runa_: checked the bts? |
| 12:46.27 | thr | Got a problem with X, when i try to boot it all the screen goes blank and i think the monitors goes out of range(1280x1024@60.. it's good for it..) when i run xf86cfg it replys: "can't find display 0:0" |
| 12:46.32 | thr | any1 got an idea? |
| 12:46.37 | eXa_bOy | you should start one aum |
| 12:46.40 | runa_ | stew: not yet, but I think I cannot report a bug from a mixed system (testing/unstable) |
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| 12:47.59 | stew | runa_: you can |
| 12:48.09 | runa_ | stew: ok. danke |
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| 12:49.14 | stew | runa_: you never said what version you are running. does downgrading make the problem go away? |
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| 12:49.31 | stew | !drxx thr |
| 12:49.33 | dpkg | thr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:49.41 | Miesco | I got a domain with my ip to it, how do I set it up? |
| 12:49.42 | da_bon_bon | the kde 3.4.1 packages in alioth -- are they meant for testing , or unstable ? |
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| 12:50.00 | stew | da_bon_bon: ask #debian-kde |
| 12:50.05 | prologic | Q: How do I switch my output to TV-Out (ATI Radeon 7000) ? |
| 12:50.15 | da_bon_bon | ok, steigweis |
| 12:50.18 | da_bon_bon | *stew |
| 12:50.32 | steigweis | np |
| 12:50.42 | Miesco | Do I edit /etc/HOSTNAME or something |
| 12:50.43 | da_bon_bon | lol, steigweis |
| 12:50.51 | steigweis | :) |
| 12:51.19 | stew | Miesco: what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 12:51.55 | Miesco | stew: right now my domain is localhost, I want to change it to my new domain |
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| 12:52.08 | stew | Miesco: man hostname ; man resolv.conf |
| 12:52.16 | Thanatermesis | SATA its really faster than IDE ? |
| 12:52.24 | petemc | man hosts |
| 12:53.30 | da_bon_bon | can someone give me pros and cons of updating to unstable ? i am on testing now. one big pro -- kde34 |
| 12:53.44 | ircops | da_bon_bon: cons cons cons |
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| 12:54.07 | Miesco | hostname: You can't change the DNS domain name with this command |
| 12:54.10 | mooded | da_bon_bon: if youre a desktop user.. why shouldnt you ? i wouldnt use it for production envs.. |
| 12:54.13 | overnout | wow oidentd is a really cool identd |
| 12:54.17 | stew | da_bon_bon: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
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| 12:54.30 | stew | mooded: you shouldn't because shit breaks |
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| 12:54.34 | ircops | !unstable |
| 12:54.34 | dpkg | i guess unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid |
| 12:54.43 | da_bon_bon | mooded: i am a desktop user. |
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| 12:55.03 | ircops | da_bon_bon: so am I... tried unstable and everything fudged up |
| 12:55.04 | stew | i thought kde 3.4 had made it to etch by now |
| 12:55.14 | Thanatermesis | SATA its really faster than IDE ? or its simple marketing ? |
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| 12:55.18 | mooded | da_bon_bon: well.. seems to be a matter of taste.. i can live with unstable @desktop.. stew seems to think differntly about this |
| 12:55.24 | da_bon_bon | ok, mooded |
| 12:55.27 | da_bon_bon | i really want kde34 |
| 12:55.32 | da_bon_bon | ircops: fudged as in ? |
| 12:55.33 | ircops | stew: I got KDE 3.4.2 from alioth, but it wasn't in etch |
| 12:55.48 | ircops | da_bon_bon: fudged as in too much to name here |
| 12:55.48 | stew | Thanatermesis: the fastest SATA bus is faster than the fastest PATA bus |
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| 12:56.01 | da_bon_bon | ircops: i want to know |
| 12:56.05 | aum | eXa_bOy: http://mysite.verizon.net/rick752/firefox/adblock_rick752.txt |
| 12:56.07 | Miesco | stew: My IP is dynamic im using DynDNS, can I still do this? |
| 12:56.08 | da_bon_bon | ircops: you got kde34 on etch ? |
| 12:56.12 | emRick | I set up PC1 with IP1 on eth0. But PC2 can't ping IP1. Why would PC2 know IP1 is ethernet and not localhost or dialup modem? |
| 12:56.15 | ircops | da_bon_bon: gcc (the big one), xorg, lots of others |
| 12:56.18 | ircops | da_bon_bon: yes. |
| 12:56.34 | da_bon_bon | ircops: how ? i really want kde34 on etch! |
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| 12:56.38 | ircops | actually it's 3.4.1 sorry |
| 12:56.46 | ircops | da_bon_bon: add this to sources.list: "deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ ./" |
| 12:56.57 | da_bon_bon | ircops: but someone told me its for sid |
| 12:57.07 | ircops | da_bon_bon: I'm using it now on etch. |
| 12:57.10 | stew | ircops: that is compiled for etch? |
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| 12:57.12 | ircops | as we speak |
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| 12:57.34 | ircops | stew: it has all of the dependencies in it, and everything worked just peachy on etch, so guess so hehe |
| 12:57.40 | ircops | bbiam |
| 12:57.47 | da_bon_bon | ircops: any bugs you experience with kde341 on etch ? |
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| 12:58.09 | da_bon_bon | debian doesnt have the wtf program! |
| 12:58.30 | Miesco | da_bon_bon: It does for me |
| 12:58.34 | stew | !find usr/games/wtf |
| 12:58.41 | da_bon_bon | Miesco: whoa! |
| 12:58.54 | Miesco | da_bon, apt-get install bsdgames |
| 12:58.58 | da_bon_bon | oh |
| 12:58.59 | da_bon_bon | i did it |
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| 12:59.05 | da_bon_bon | /usr/games in not in path |
| 12:59.19 | stew | sleepy bot |
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| 13:00.10 | Miesco | da_bon_bon: apt-get install bsdgames; /usr/games/wtf |
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| 13:00.22 | da_bon_bon | ok |
| 13:00.23 | da_bon_bon | got it |
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| 13:01.58 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'usr/games/wtf' (1): (/usr/games/wtf) in games/bsdgames. |
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| 13:02.58 | da_bon_bon | ircops: The following packages have been kept back: kdebase kdebase-kio-plugins --- bleh! |
| 13:03.06 | abrotman | yay |
| 13:03.28 | llama32 | anyone know about science irc channels? basically to get quotes, etc. about general things for high school exam |
| 13:03.28 | ircops | heh |
| 13:03.35 | ircops | works for me |
| 13:03.36 | ircops | :D |
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| 13:03.48 | guideX | can someone help me install my linksys wmp54gs wireless (wifi card) on debian? |
| 13:03.58 | coywolf | how record audio in debian? |
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| 13:04.01 | ircops | da_bon_bon: are you using "testing" or "etch" in your other apt sources? |
| 13:04.08 | guideX | i see some forums but the walk throughs didn't work |
| 13:04.16 | stew | da_bon_bon: /msg dpkg kept back ; but i would ask #debian-kde for their recommendataion as to how to install kde on etch, they would probably recommend pinning the sid packages |
| 13:04.27 | stew | ircops: how would that possibly make a difference? |
| 13:04.46 | da_bon_bon | ircops: yes. |
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| 13:05.01 | guideX | or.. |
| 13:05.08 | Miesco | How do I email someone |
| 13:05.12 | guideX | does someone know an easy way to compile ndiswrapper? |
| 13:05.15 | guideX | i get errors when i try |
| 13:05.23 | k_e_i_t_h | hi boy |
| 13:05.24 | ircops | stew: if I understand correctly, the testing structure is not maintained as well as the structure named etch... am I wrong? because I am using etch, and everything is working fine with the alioth repo |
| 13:05.38 | stew | ircops: testing is just a symlink to etch |
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| 13:05.42 | ircops | okay |
| 13:05.43 | ircops | hmmm |
| 13:05.43 | abrotman | coywolf: audacity is one program |
| 13:05.44 | ircops | weird |
| 13:05.50 | stew | guideX: /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 13:06.07 | xoz | placebo effect :) |
| 13:06.16 | guideX | well thanks :D |
| 13:06.29 | ircops | stew: then how can my distro running etch work with the alioth repo and not someone else's? |
| 13:06.32 | stew | coywolf: audacity is very fully featured. if you want a stripped down cli, sound-recorder |
| 13:06.43 | k_e_i_t_h | I would verify if I could go in private |
| 13:06.46 | guideX | also... |
| 13:06.54 | coywolf | stew, what's cli? |
| 13:06.54 | stew | ircops: why said the alioth repo was not working? |
| 13:06.57 | guideX | how do you change your video adapter in debian ? i can't find the right spot |
| 13:07.02 | stew | coywolf: command line interface |
| 13:07.23 | stew | !drxx guideX |
| 13:07.24 | dpkg | guideX: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:07.42 | guideX | ok thanks |
| 13:07.46 | ircops | stew: the repo itself is operation, but I mean I had no problem upgrading to kde3.4.1 using it, and da_bon_bon says that his kdebase was held back, and he is using etch as well |
| 13:07.54 | ircops | operational* |
| 13:08.02 | stew | ircops: /msg dpkg held back |
| 13:08.07 | ircops | k |
| 13:08.31 | ircops | da_bon_bon: did you read that? |
| 13:08.32 | abrotman | !tell coywolf about fundamentals |
| 13:08.32 | jsan | i have a proxy and a a firewall in my network, this services are separeted and i need to construct a rule in the firewall where the user in my internal network do the conecction whith de firewall and the firewall respond for the user. What the correct rule i need to contruct in the iptables ? |
| 13:08.35 | k_e_i_t_h | stew have you received my private message |
| 13:08.45 | stew | k_e_i_t_h: why are you /msging me? |
| 13:08.54 | guideX | wow this whole irc network is for linux it seems like |
| 13:08.54 | da_bon_bon | i did, ircops |
| 13:08.56 | ircops | k |
| 13:09.10 | ircops | da_bon_bon: is it still not working with "apt-get install kdebase" ? |
| 13:09.12 | k_e_i_t_h | because I would verify if I'm registered |
| 13:09.20 | k_e_i_t_h | I'm new one |
| 13:09.33 | stew | guideX: not necessarily linux, http://freenode.net |
| 13:09.41 | da_bon_bon | ircops: i am still afraid of b0rking my debian install - its only 3 days old , you see |
| 13:09.47 | ircops | hehe |
| 13:09.49 | k_e_i_t_h | stew |
| 13:09.50 | ircops | okay. |
| 13:09.58 | ircops | but upgrading to unstable is not the answer, promise. heh |
| 13:10.01 | vanten^ | my monitors is still flashing, no errors recorded in xorg.0.log (with "flash" i meen the kind of jump. like you minime the window and maximas it again) its going for this all the time and one flash isent taking more then on sec, then a other comes... |
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| 13:10.18 | da_bon_bon | ircops: kdebase-kio-plugins: Depends: dbus-qt-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not installable |
| 13:10.22 | ircops | I had to downgrade FROM unstable, which was a bitch in and of itself... you wanna talk about b0rked? that's b0rked. :) |
| 13:10.36 | vanten^ | what did you say yesterday about this? mode something? |
| 13:10.40 | ircops | da_bon_bon: how many packages were held back total with an apt-get upgrade? |
| 13:10.47 | da_bon_bon | ircops: two |
| 13:10.49 | abrotman | k_e_i_t_h: /whois k_e_i_t_h |
| 13:10.51 | ircops | that's all? |
| 13:11.10 | da_bon_bon | ircops: wait! dist-upgrade 2 are held back, else 8 are. |
| 13:11.16 | guideX | ok well i'm gonna go try those things on my linux dist thanks again :D |
| 13:11.16 | ircops | hmmm |
| 13:11.32 | stew | da_bon_bon: i really think you should ba asking #debian-kde, not ircops |
| 13:11.41 | ircops | stew: sorry ;) |
| 13:11.55 | da_bon_bon | stew: the channel is almost dead. |
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| 13:11.58 | k_e_i_t_h | stew could you reply plese |
| 13:12.01 | ircops | stew: I try to help when I can heh but maybe I shouldn't... I've been through this though |
| 13:12.03 | stew | k_e_i_t_h: hi |
| 13:12.07 | da_bon_bon | and they say the alioth is only for sid |
| 13:12.07 | k_e_i_t_h | please |
| 13:12.13 | ircops | !they aren't there |
| 13:12.13 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel aren't helping with your non-debian problem , it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 13:12.37 | stew | k_e_i_t_h: why are you msging me? |
| 13:12.38 | SuperNinjaKitty | lol nice |
| 13:12.42 | Miesco | How do I check if I have a mail server? |
| 13:12.46 | k_e_i_t_h | okkey |
| 13:12.48 | k_e_i_t_h | stew |
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| 13:12.57 | k_e_i_t_h | If you see my message I'm glad |
| 13:13.01 | Gijs` | Miesco: You should know :D |
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| 13:13.05 | Ronin | Miesco: id hope youd know already |
| 13:13.06 | stew | k_e_i_t_h: do you have a debian related question? |
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| 13:13.16 | k_e_i_t_h | One? |
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| 13:13.24 | k_e_i_t_h | one million |
| 13:13.24 | Miesco | Ronin: Okay I know |
| 13:13.30 | dimir | k_e_i_t_h : whould you mind changing your nick? |
| 13:13.34 | Miesco | Ronin: Only by doing netstat though |
| 13:13.39 | k_e_i_t_h | why? |
| 13:13.43 | bwana147_ | Miesco: telnet localhost 25 |
| 13:13.46 | abrotman | k_e_i_t_h: what is your question? |
| 13:13.53 | bwana147_ | and see if something is responding |
| 13:13.58 | dimir | because it's hurting one's eyes. |
| 13:14.12 | k_e_i_t_h | I need to reconfigure my video card because resolution is too low |
| 13:14.21 | abrotman | !drxx k_e |
| 13:14.22 | dpkg | k_e: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:14.22 | abrotman | !drxx k_e_i_t_h |
| 13:14.23 | dpkg | k_e_i_t_h: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:14.23 | beardy | !drxx k_e_i_t_h |
| 13:14.38 | abrotman | beardy: BOING! |
| 13:14.55 | beardy | heh |
| 13:14.56 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.58 | stew | oops |
| 13:15.16 | ircops | stew: do you mind if I msg you for a sec? |
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| 13:15.20 | dimir | exactly |
| 13:15.35 | k_e_i_t_h | Sorry I don't understand |
| 13:15.50 | Miesco | I know why mail server isn't running, need to port forward, need to connect to my router with http |
| 13:15.53 | k_e_i_t_h | I'm new linux user |
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| 13:16.01 | dimir | people start ignoring you because of that stupid nick. |
| 13:16.06 | dimir | Full of underscores. |
| 13:16.20 | k_e_i_t_h | okkey i change |
| 13:16.35 | dimir | Just remove them and it'll be fine. |
| 13:16.47 | k_e_i_t_h | if you write keith I understand anyway |
| 13:16.53 | k_e_i_t_h | don't worry |
| 13:16.57 | beardy | k_e_i_t_h: just do it |
| 13:17.08 | k_e_i_t_h | I use this nick because keith was busy |
| 13:17.17 | SuperNinjaKitty | i dont get why underscores are bad |
| 13:17.22 | beardy | k_e_i_t_h: no one else will understand. Use keith_ then |
| 13:17.32 | k_e_i_t_h | okkey |
| 13:17.35 | dimir | keith is not taken ATM. |
| 13:17.40 | dimir | So hurry up. |
| 13:17.44 | da_bon_bon | ircops: read pm |
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| 13:18.19 | beardy | SuperNinjaKitty: It makes it unecessary hard to tabcomplete. |
| 13:18.24 | beardy | keith_: Thanks. |
| 13:18.26 | keith_ | It's ok now |
| 13:18.48 | keith_ | okkey now |
| 13:18.51 | dimir | There you go. |
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| 13:18.58 | dimir | Yes. Much better. |
| 13:19.04 | keith_ | I make the same question: |
| 13:19.19 | dimir | Shoot. |
| 13:19.36 | keith_ | If I want to speak in private |
| 13:19.52 | keith_ | i have to register |
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| 13:19.59 | keith_ | I do that |
| 13:20.03 | dimir | People do not like to deal with difficult nicks in general, unless they are kids. |
| 13:20.04 | *** part/#debian bVeyKeim (n=uosounkd@asy196.as253219.sol.superonline.com) |
| 13:20.06 | keith_ | And now I want try |
| 13:20.19 | dimir | did you register already? |
| 13:20.35 | keith_ | I believe yes |
| 13:20.42 | keith_ | and I want verify |
| 13:20.53 | dimir | Remember the pass? |
| 13:20.59 | dimir | /msg nickserv identify <your pass> |
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| 13:22.01 | dimir | Of course, provide the pass without the '<' '>'. |
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| 13:22.35 | keith_ | of course |
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| 13:23.05 | dimir | yes, now you are registered, keith_ |
| 13:23.09 | ricky_clarkson | What's the gateway for a local route? |
| 13:23.11 | keith_ | I'm writing to you dimir |
| 13:23.21 | keith_ | Is it ok? |
| 13:23.22 | dimir | yes, I see it. |
| 13:23.26 | keith_ | okkey |
| 13:23.28 | keith_ | perfect |
| 13:23.31 | da_bon_bon | why do i get garble is terminal ? http://rafb.net/paste/results/25Gvcj50.html |
| 13:23.37 | da_bon_bon | it happens in man pages |
| 13:23.37 | keith_ | so I could came back to work |
| 13:23.46 | da_bon_bon | and while compile errors |
| 13:23.52 | dimir | keitth: anytime. :-) |
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| 13:23.59 | keith_ | and maybe I could try tonight to reconfigure my video card |
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| 13:24.49 | keith_ | dimir,I hope to find you later |
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| 13:24.51 | dimir | did you try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' or 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' if you have xorg? |
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| 13:25.01 | keith_ | okkey |
| 13:25.06 | keith_ | I will try |
| 13:25.14 | dimir | Good. |
| 13:25.44 | ricky_clarkson | dimir: Shortcut, !drxx |
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| 13:26.05 | dimir | ricky_clarkson: mkey. |
| 13:26.29 | dimir | But, as I understood he did not pay much attention to those. :-) |
| 13:26.47 | ricky_clarkson | keith_: dpkg e tu amico. |
| 13:26.59 | da_bon_bon | how do i change the console font ? |
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| 13:27.18 | ricky_clarkson | da_bon_bon: dpkg-reconfigure console-data (I think) |
| 13:27.19 | dimir | Da_SWAT: in virtual terminal? |
| 13:27.22 | dimir | da_bon_bon that is |
| 13:27.25 | jm_ | you can set that in Debian config files for console tools/data |
| 13:27.30 | keith_ | Are dpkg Italian? |
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| 13:27.39 | jm_ | then there's consolechars |
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| 13:27.46 | jm_ | keikoz: thank god no |
| 13:27.50 | jm_ | keith_ ^^^^ |
| 13:28.06 | dimir | lol |
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| 13:28.10 | da_bon_bon | ricky_clarkson: no.. thats only for keymaps |
| 13:28.14 | dimir | Exactly. |
| 13:28.35 | Glanzmann | xorg backports are broken. |
| 13:28.42 | Glanzmann | It works for me at home. |
| 13:28.52 | Glanzmann | But yesterday I tried it on sarge and it can't find a few modules. |
| 13:28.56 | ricky_clarkson | keith_: dpkg no e italiano. dpkg e un maquina. |
| 13:29.06 | da_bon_bon | jm_: where do i find them ? |
| 13:29.18 | Glanzmann | These modules are only installed in xserver-xfree86 but not in xserver-org but the both are mutual exclusive. So you're doomed. |
| 13:29.19 | jm_ | da_bon_bon: ls /etc|grep console |
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| 13:29.34 | dimir | Da_SWAT: I think in your case the "garbage" is caused by wrong locale. |
| 13:29.36 | dimir | dammn |
| 13:29.39 | dimir | da_bon_bon ^^^ |
| 13:29.48 | dimir | stupido nicks |
| 13:29.56 | keith_ | ricky_clarkson, Do you speak italian? |
| 13:30.09 | da_bon_bon | dimir: i knew it! how do i change the locale ? |
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| 13:30.28 | dimir | da_bon_bon: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:30.29 | ricky_clarkson | keith_: uno piccolo. |
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| 13:30.40 | keith_ | fine |
| 13:30.43 | da_bon_bon | thanks, dimir |
| 13:30.57 | keith_ | where are you from (country) |
| 13:31.06 | dimir | da_bon_bon: and for opened session it's 'export LANG=en_US LC_ALL=en_US' change en_US to whatever you need. |
| 13:31.10 | dimir | da_bon_bon: np |
| 13:31.17 | ricky_clarkson | keith_: England. |
| 13:31.45 | ricky_clarkson | keith_: Don't try to converse with dpkg, it is a bot. Likewise, do not ignore what people ask dpkg to say to you - it's often important. |
| 13:31.45 | keith_ | ricky, ok, your nick is too long |
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| 13:32.02 | dimir | :-) |
| 13:32.05 | ricky_clarkson | keith_: Type 'rick' then press the 'tab' key. |
| 13:32.56 | keith_ | okkey |
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| 13:33.38 | eonbleu | is there a debian release with a 2.6.x kernel? |
| 13:33.48 | ricky_clarkson | eonbleu: etch? |
| 13:33.49 | eonbleu | i THOUGHT i downloaded the latest ISO but its an old kernel |
| 13:33.57 | jm_ | no it has 2.6 too |
| 13:34.00 | eonbleu | ah |
| 13:34.07 | Ronin | eonbleu: linux26 as i recall |
| 13:34.08 | keith_ | ricky_clarkson |
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| 13:34.17 | eonbleu | how do I fix the glib2 errors when trying to install gaim? |
| 13:34.21 | ricky_clarkson | keith_: Congratulazzioni. |
| 13:34.24 | keith_ | i must go to work |
| 13:34.28 | keith_ | I'm in office |
| 13:34.31 | eonbleu | i tried using the apt-get install gaim and compiling from src |
| 13:34.31 | keith_ | se you later |
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| 13:34.43 | Ronin | eonbleu: apt-get install gaim doesnt,never mind |
| 13:34.47 | eonbleu | and it says i need libao2 but that it cant be installed cause another package is using something else |
| 13:34.50 | ricky_clarkson | eonbleu: What's gaim got to do with it? |
| 13:34.52 | eonbleu | or so such |
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| 13:35.17 | keith_ | ciao ricky_clarkson |
| 13:35.21 | eonbleu | ricky_clarkson: it doesnt have anythign to do w/ kernel |
| 13:35.28 | eonbleu | ricky_clarkson: but i had a few questions |
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| 13:35.40 | eonbleu | i strayed from debian when potato was so getting rotten |
| 13:35.47 | eonbleu | for more upkept distro |
| 13:35.48 | ircops | Can you tell which repository in your sources.list a certain package is coming from? |
| 13:35.50 | eonbleu | but i came back |
| 13:36.02 | eonbleu | and it's having a sort of problem with installing anything that uses glib2 |
| 13:36.08 | jm_ | ircops: I can, can you? |
| 13:36.15 | eonbleu | ircops: im not familiar enough with aptitude, sorry |
| 13:36.15 | ircops | jm_: nope :) hehe |
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| 13:36.18 | eonbleu | how would i check |
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| 13:36.24 | jm_ | ircops: apt-cache policy |
| 13:36.26 | MoRLoCh | ircops: like apt-cache policy <package> ? |
| 13:36.29 | [m]fi1 | hello |
| 13:36.32 | ircops | k |
| 13:36.32 | [m]fi1 | Trade Shell ? |
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| 13:36.51 | da_bon_bon | ircops: that worked. thanks! do you use the dbus repo too ? |
| 13:36.54 | [m]fi1 | Trade Shell ? |
| 13:36.57 | Ronin | trade shell? heh |
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| 13:37.13 | eonbleu | sorry bout that |
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| 13:37.30 | [m]fi1 | Trade Shell ? |
| 13:37.36 | Ronin | [m]fi1: stop it please |
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| 13:37.46 | [m]fi1 | :> |
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| 13:37.49 | raver | hello |
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| 13:38.36 | raver | i have problems with lilo on a debian machine. |
| 13:38.42 | raver | "lilo -R kernel_image" is not working |
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| 13:39.19 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 13:39.27 | eonbleu | omghi2u |
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| 13:39.39 | eonbleu | stupid logitech mouse |
| 13:39.50 | eonbleu | has a huge side button for the 3rd |
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| 13:40.19 | MoRLoCh | eonbleu: handy :) |
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| 13:45.28 | abrotman | !moo |
| 13:45.28 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 13:45.37 | stew | aptitude -v moo! |
| 13:45.48 | takatumi | -vvv |
| 13:45.49 | abrotman | stew: -vvvvv |
| 13:45.56 | abrotman | err .. maybe just vvvv |
| 13:46.36 | abrotman | no .. it's 5 |
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| 13:46.45 | Tortel | lolz |
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| 13:46.58 | abrotman | though .. 6 explains it |
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| 13:47.07 | ircops | hehe |
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| 13:47.31 | stew | a friend recently informed me that the picture and its explanation are from The Little Prince |
| 13:47.47 | stew | "I don't want a boa with an elephant inside! I want a sheep..." |
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| 13:48.38 | Tortel | yay |
| 13:48.40 | stew | Tortel: dont do that |
| 13:48.43 | Tortel | i know |
| 13:48.45 | Tortel | im bored |
| 13:48.46 | Tortel | :( |
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| 13:50.08 | row2 | what do I type to set UTC timezone in tzselect after I have gone to option 11? |
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| 13:50.24 | ravo | who would i notify if the file utlity /usr/bin/file is reporting a file to be a bzip file, when it is only a plain txt file ? obviously some kind of bug ? |
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| 13:53.01 | stew | ravo: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 13:53.18 | stew | row2: edit /etc/default/rcS |
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| 13:53.32 | row2 | cheers stew |
| 13:54.05 | row2 | stew would it not be better to alter a config on the system, so deb does not ask if want to update etc? |
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| 13:54.54 | row2 | stew: that also does not have setting for clock displayed it want system format to be UTC |
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| 13:57.54 | Shadda` | bah wtf |
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| 13:58.44 | professionalbox | salut |
| 13:58.51 | professionalbox | ca epte |
| 13:58.52 | jip | anybody here using dvb-card on linux? |
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| 14:02.01 | yalu | hello, I just let my gf select the sun jre with update-alternatives for "java". now programs complain there is no java installation in /usr/java |
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| 14:02.20 | yalu | everything works for me but my java installation isn't in /usr/java either |
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| 14:03.31 | dimir | You probably need to set JAVA_HOME or similar environment variable for those applications. |
| 14:03.37 | manbox | hi guys, i got a couple inodes from a logical ext3 drive that has been deleted by accident.. can anyone tell me how to revert and recorver the files? recover only works for ext2.. plz pm me if you have any suggestions.. |
| 14:03.40 | dimir | Accordingly. |
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| 14:06.06 | BuzzBud | :D |
| 14:07.12 | snail | anyone else getting slow updates for sarge? |
| 14:07.38 | tosh | depends on the apt source you selected |
| 14:07.39 | tosh | so no |
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| 14:08.01 | yalu | dimir: I haven't got JAVA_HOME set on my system and yet everything works smoothly |
| 14:08.15 | as13 | on sid kernel compilation errors 'suffix or operands invalid for `mov'' |
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| 14:08.27 | Apodemos | hi to all |
| 14:08.42 | Apodemos | some one has a pci card wireless? |
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| 14:09.29 | nkuttler | Apodemos: why do you ask? |
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| 14:09.59 | Apodemos | help for wireless |
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| 14:10.16 | nkuttler | Apodemos: chipset? |
| 14:10.52 | Shadda` | trying to run this command.. |
| 14:10.52 | Shadda` | chroot /mnt/plethora/Greed/install dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.0.2_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.4.1_i386.deb |
| 14:11.00 | Shadda` | but I get dpkg: can't mmap package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available': Invalid argument |
| 14:11.06 | Shadda` | Anyone know why? :P |
| 14:11.15 | Apodemos | intersil fresbee |
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| 14:12.18 | nkuttler | Apodemos: fresbee? |
| 14:12.40 | Apodemos | yes |
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| 14:13.19 | nkuttler | hm, never heard of that. all intersil i have seen work with the prism54 driver, see prism54.org if yours is supported |
| 14:13.33 | Apodemos | yeah |
| 14:13.58 | Apodemos | but i try to compile the module on kernel but he tell me that the firmware is wrong |
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| 14:14.14 | nkuttler | Apodemos: where did you get the firmware from? |
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| 14:15.26 | Apodemos | i make only the kernel module intersil prism |
| 14:15.27 | Apodemos | and |
| 14:15.44 | Apodemos | when i do ifconfig eth1 up there is some error |
| 14:15.57 | nkuttler | Apodemos: /msg dpkg prism54 |
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| 14:16.15 | yalu | ok what friggin package dares to put /usr/lib/fjsdk/bin in the PATH?? >:-( |
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| 14:16.49 | Apodemos | i try now |
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| 14:17.52 | Shadda` | dammit, this is over my head |
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| 14:18.40 | Apodemos | with apt search i find hostapd - user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator |
| 14:19.19 | Apodemos | but i think that is not the driver |
| 14:19.38 | Apodemos | i now using 2.4.26 kernel i try with 2.6? |
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| 14:23.10 | snail | tosh: thanks. the correct answer was "use apt-spy to find good sources" |
| 14:23.37 | sandman | What's the significance of system load? |
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| 14:24.09 | hackeron | sandman: if uptime shows more than 3 for a long period of time, time to upgrade |
| 14:25.22 | sandman | hackeron: I can't see how exactly to read /proc/loadavg |
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| 14:28.55 | hackeron | sandman: use uptime :) |
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| 14:30.31 | Shadda` | argh |
| 14:30.52 | Shadda` | CAn some one help me out...I'm looking for the sarge version/equivelant of ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/base-images-current/basedebs.tar |
| 14:31.03 | Shadda` | I can't find anything |
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| 14:31.13 | clusty | i have a small problem with installed packages: when i exec "apt-get dist-upgrade" it says that "x-window-system-sore" is kept back. How can I install it? |
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| 14:31.35 | ricky_clarkson | You want to install open sores?! |
| 14:31.47 | clusty | ? |
| 14:31.59 | ricky_clarkson | !info x-window-system-sore |
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| 14:32.08 | Gasolina | CONECTATE A LA NUEBA ERA DEL IRC / server irc-knts.sytes.net |
| 14:32.12 | Gasolina | CONECTATE A LA NUEBA ERA DEL IRC / server irc-knts.sytes.net |
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| 14:32.15 | Gasolina | CONECTATE A LA NUEBA ERA DEL IRC / server irc-knts.sytes.net |
| 14:32.16 | fireba11 | ^^ |
| 14:32.17 | ricky_clarkson | = 15:34:14 <dpkg> Package 'x-window-system-sore' does not exist. |
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| 14:32.28 | dimir | Auto-rejoin! |
| 14:32.28 | clusty | i ment core :-D |
| 14:32.48 | clusty | x-window-system-core |
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| 14:32.52 | ricky_clarkson | Gasolina is the name of a reggaeton track. |
| 14:33.04 | ricky_clarkson | clusty: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
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| 14:33.53 | clusty | thanx |
| 14:33.57 | Shadda` | Ugh I'm never gonna get this working |
| 14:33.59 | tmccrary | Hey, is there a command I can use in debian to look SCSI drive info? Like model number, size, etc |
| 14:34.14 | jm_ | tried /proc/scsi? |
| 14:34.16 | BuzzBud | Shadda`: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/12/msg00794.html |
| 14:34.20 | jm_ | or /sys/block/foo ... |
| 14:34.23 | casio_ | dame mas gasoliiiiiiiiiiina ... |
| 14:34.40 | at0m|c | tmccrary, or man hdparm |
| 14:34.41 | tmccrary | jm_, yes |
| 14:34.45 | tmccrary | hdparm is for ide stuff |
| 14:34.48 | at0m|c | k |
| 14:35.00 | jm_ | tmccrary: so you know where to look for info then, why are you asking? |
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| 14:35.08 | Shadda` | BuzzBud: ah |
| 14:35.20 | Shadda` | Well damn, I can't get woody to install from chroot |
| 14:35.25 | tmccrary | Because there's no scsiparm you jackass |
| 14:35.26 | Shadda` | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.33 | Shadda` | I get that error everytime It tries |
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| 14:35.44 | xoz | tmccrary: lsscsi |
| 14:35.52 | jm_ | ok one moron who will not know how to look it up |
| 14:35.56 | jm_ | one more* |
| 14:36.19 | tmccrary | xoz, thank you! :) |
| 14:36.27 | xoz | only a moron known his king |
| 14:36.29 | xoz | only a moron known his kind |
| 14:36.35 | xoz | *knows* |
| 14:36.43 | jm_ | yes, keep saying that |
| 14:36.52 | jm_ | and more importantly, keep thinking that way |
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| 14:37.04 | xoz | barking at your tree |
| 14:37.14 | jm_ | uhuh |
| 14:37.16 | xoz | convince yourself |
| 14:37.22 | jm_ | get a grip |
| 14:37.59 | xoz | your fingers work faster than your brain. |
| 14:38.03 | jm_ | the idiot couldn't even tell there were two people helping him, and called us jackass-es, but why do I bother |
| 14:38.10 | jm_ | that's still faster than you |
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| 14:38.15 | Shadda` | I: Installing core packages... |
| 14:38.15 | Shadda` | W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/plethora/Envy/install dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.0.2_i386.deb var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.4.1_i386.deb |
| 14:38.19 | Shadda` | Damn, Why!! |
| 14:38.21 | tmccrary | jm_ I called you a jackass, and you weren't helping me. xoz did. |
| 14:38.30 | jm_ | tmccrary: you're a moron |
| 14:38.34 | tmccrary | Thanks! |
| 14:38.36 | at0m|c | and then others get carried away w it and fight over the dude |
| 14:38.39 | at0m|c | cmon get a grip :) |
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| 14:38.56 | Shadda` | Indeed! You should all be helping ME |
| 14:38.57 | Shadda` | :) |
| 14:39.03 | at0m|c | :) |
| 14:39.04 | mhz | could someone please help me solve my tftp settings? I have already spent 19 hours using diff howtos, moving files, etc, unsuccessfuly :( |
| 14:39.14 | Shadda` | I just want to get this vps setup |
| 14:39.23 | xoz | take a break. debian doesn't need asshole like you. this is a help channel, not an insult channel. |
| 14:39.25 | Shadda` | but I can't get woody to install from chroot |
| 14:39.37 | jm_ | you can always leave if you don't like it |
| 14:39.49 | stew | Shadda`: check the bts, i remember seeing something about that |
| 14:39.54 | tmccrary | jm_: You are awesome. I love you. |
| 14:39.57 | Shadda` | bts? |
| 14:40.02 | tmccrary | Common everyone, beat the troll with love! |
| 14:40.02 | xoz | i don't insult humans here. only morons do. |
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| 14:40.20 | stew | Shadda`: /msg dpkg bts |
| 14:40.20 | ricky_clarkson | !bts |
| 14:40.20 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 14:40.24 | tmccrary | jm_: Your hair looks particularly nice today |
| 14:40.28 | Shadda` | ah |
| 14:40.31 | xoz | moron has no feelings because their brain is nano size. |
| 14:40.35 | jm_ | right, I'll stop wasting everyone's bandwith for the morons |
| 14:40.52 | tmccrary | jm_: Sharing is caring, you're doing the right thing! |
| 14:41.00 | xoz | better save my neurons.... |
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| 14:41.16 | Shadda` | Not sure what to search for though |
| 14:41.40 | ricky_clarkson | !wayttd Shadda` |
| 14:41.42 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Shadda`? |
| 14:41.54 | Shadda` | Setup usermode linux for a vps |
| 14:42.00 | ricky_clarkson | !vps |
| 14:42.04 | Shadda` | The script I'm using wget's the woody basesystem |
| 14:42.12 | Shadda` | but the install fails |
| 14:42.18 | ricky_clarkson | Fails how? |
| 14:42.24 | Shadda` | The command it tries to run returns dpkg: can't mmap package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available': Invalid argument |
| 14:42.35 | Shadda` | chroot /mnt/plethora/Envy/install dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.0.2_i386.deb var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.4.1_i386.deb |
| 14:42.36 | Shadda` | is the command |
| 14:42.40 | tmccrary | I think you need to increase mmap in dpkg |
| 14:42.48 | tmccrary | oh wait, maybe not |
| 14:42.48 | Shadda` | increase? |
| 14:42.50 | ricky_clarkson | Ok, have you googled for "dpkg mmap invalid argument"? |
| 14:42.51 | tmccrary | wrong error :) |
| 14:42.56 | Shadda` | ricky_clarkson: ye |
| 14:42.57 | Shadda` | yep |
| 14:43.12 | Shadda` | I always check my errors on google firs |
| 14:43.18 | Shadda` | first. Oi, I need to learn how to type |
| 14:43.56 | ricky_clarkson | Shadda`: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-dpkg-bugs@lists.debian.org/msg00482.html |
| 14:44.04 | Shadda` | Yeah I saw that |
| 14:44.09 | Shadda` | but no solution? |
| 14:44.11 | ricky_clarkson | Shadda`: It looks like you're trying to mmap something for one version of Linux on another. |
| 14:44.16 | ptlis | I'm trying to mount an smb share as part of my file system - some googling found a howto and mentions an application called smbmount, which does not appear to be on my system. When I try "apt-get install smbmount" it finds no packages. Any idea what i'm mising? |
| 14:44.29 | asg | ptlis: apt-get install smbfs |
| 14:44.46 | ptlis | asg, thanks. |
| 14:44.49 | Shadda` | ricky_clarkson: well I'm running sarge...the script downloads woody basesystem (there is no sarge equivelant) and attemps to install |
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| 14:45.03 | ricky_clarkson | Shadda`: "1126154789 M * mugwump damn, can't debootstrap woody on new kernels ... broke somewhere between 2.6.10 and current" |
| 14:45.13 | ricky_clarkson | What kernel versions? |
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| 14:45.19 | Shadda` | I'm running 2.6.12 |
| 14:45.22 | Shadda` | So that makes sense |
| 14:45.23 | grendal_prime | abrotman, this thing is still hanging on boot...the portmapper hangs |
| 14:45.39 | grendal_prime | you up? |
| 14:45.39 | laszlo_ | quick question, i have a perl file started with #!/usr/bin/perl; i did a chmod a+x. i got syntax errors etc when do ./file.pl; if i do perl file.pl its works. |
| 14:45.40 | ricky_clarkson | Shadda`: That was in the same google results, FOOL. |
| 14:45.48 | Shadda` | pssh |
| 14:45.52 | Shadda` | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-dpkg-bugs@lists.debian.org/msg00482.html was first |
| 14:46.03 | ricky_clarkson | Google gives more thna one result FOR A REASON. |
| 14:46.04 | asg | laszlo_: remove the ';' from the shebang line. |
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| 14:46.08 | asg | laszlo_: consult #perl in the future |
| 14:46.15 | laszlo_ | asg that's removed |
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| 14:46.46 | asg | laszlo_: paste the exact error you get |
| 14:46.56 | jaybuffet | ok.. so i did something wrong... i downloaded a vanilla 2.6.10 kernel.. copied the .config file from an identical system with the vanilla 2.6.10 kernel.. and installed the kernel... but now it seems modules arent supported .. (i get QM_MODULES: Function not implemented) |
| 14:47.14 | jm_ | !qm_modules |
| 14:47.14 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES, or if you are using woody you must upgrade to sarge to use a 2.6 kernel, ask me about woody->sarge |
| 14:47.15 | grendal_prime | i have an nfs mount in my fstab. it is running through a vpn connection. if i set the thing to automount portmapper hangs on boot. |
| 14:47.47 | grendal_prime | its like nfs has not started yet so portmapper cannot ...well connect remote drives basically |
| 14:47.54 | jaybuffet | jm_: is that what u have to do when using vanilla sources ? |
| 14:48.05 | jaybuffet | jm_:or just in general? |
| 14:48.08 | Shadda` | Damn I'm never going to get this working :P |
| 14:48.23 | jm_ | jaybuffet: yes, it's listed in Changes documented |
| 14:48.44 | laszlo_ | asg, http://rafb.net/paste/results/COXXYa22.html here you go |
| 14:50.46 | asg | laszlo_: odd. What does 'file /path/to/script.pl' say |
| 14:51.02 | laszlo_ | /etc/apache/bprg.pl: ASCII text |
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| 14:51.14 | jaybuffet | what is the difference between the opteron 880 and 280 that make the prices go from $2500 for the 880 to $1300 for the 280? |
| 14:51.19 | be0wulf__ | any1 who managed to get php5.0 with mysql on debian sarge to work |
| 14:51.38 | Shadda` | be0wulf__: yes |
| 14:51.41 | tosh | any reason why an MTA would not see the CR/LF <dot> CR/LF sent by a remote smtp peer? |
| 14:51.41 | laszlo_ | asg, which perl -> /usr/bin/perl |
| 14:51.56 | be0wulf__ | Shadda` did u compile it yourself? |
| 14:52.04 | Shadda` | no, I used apt-get |
| 14:52.05 | laszlo_ | asg ideas? |
| 14:52.24 | asg | laszlo_: ad you are sure that the first line contains only '#!/usb/bin/perl' No non printable characters, not spaces before the #!? |
| 14:52.27 | asg | s/ad/and/ |
| 14:52.28 | be0wulf__ | and it works with mysql? |
| 14:52.33 | Shadda` | mmhmm |
| 14:52.36 | be0wulf__ | what did u install then? |
| 14:52.40 | ricky_clarkson | asg: s/usb/usr/ |
| 14:52.43 | be0wulf__ | i tried to install php5-mysql |
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| 14:52.54 | be0wulf__ | and it doesn't show up in the phpinfo file |
| 14:53.04 | asg | ricky_clarkson: yeah that too. |
| 14:53.04 | laszlo_ | asg my vim did it. :( excuse me |
| 14:53.06 | laszlo_ | im tired.. |
| 14:53.12 | xoz | laszlo_: try #!/usr/bin/env perl |
| 14:53.13 | Shadda` | apt-get install php5 libapache-mod-php5 apache apache-common apache-utils php5-mysql php5-pgsql php5-gd php5-imap php5-curl php5-ming |
| 14:53.22 | asg | laszlo_: so it's working now? |
| 14:53.34 | ricky_clarkson | laszlo_: Don't. Blame. Teh. Vim. |
| 14:53.39 | Shadda` | you'll need this in your sources.list |
| 14:53.51 | Ries | [ot] us there a command the measure the bandwidth of a network between two interfaces? |
| 14:53.51 | laszlo_ | asg yeah |
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| 14:54.04 | ricky_clarkson | Ries: ping -f |
| 14:54.05 | Shadda` | deb http://packages.dotdeb.org sarge all |
| 14:54.14 | Ries | ricky_clarkson: that simple?? :) |
| 14:54.22 | ricky_clarkson | No?? :) |
| 14:54.34 | ricky_clarkson | Ries: man ping |
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| 14:56.02 | be0wulf__ | php5-ming doesn't exist |
| 14:56.33 | Amit_Karpe | Is there online facility to create "Customize Debian" ? |
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| 14:56.44 | Ries | ricky_clarkson: trying.... |
| 14:56.50 | feluco | hooa |
| 14:56.57 | ircops | Amit_Karpe: explain |
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| 14:57.11 | feluco | uafdfgfgasdfgio |
| 14:57.14 | samuel | anyone know the name of a note program? something to help organize data - like a mini database sort of program? |
| 14:57.14 | time-walker | hi |
| 14:57.18 | feluco | qwfhpqweffho |
| 14:57.20 | ircops | feluco: very nice |
| 14:57.28 | asuffield | samuel: the filesystem. and a text editor. |
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| 14:57.41 | nkuttler | samuel: hnb? |
| 14:57.42 | be0wulf__ | argh made a mistake we'll see whether it works now |
| 14:57.55 | samuel | asuffield, hnb ? what does that mean? |
| 14:58.13 | samuel | sorry nkuttler ? |
| 14:58.33 | nkuttler | samuel: what did you ask for? |
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| 14:59.05 | Dualboot | Hey guys. I have a computer I'm trying to get to boot linux once again. Over the weekend my windows installation got trashed and I had to reinstall, since linux and windows are on the same drive, it (of course) overwrote lilo. I have an older linux installation cd and am trying to get linux booting again. I installed lilo, but when I try to boot linux, it complains "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,6)" |
| 14:59.09 | nick23 | what are some good network intrusion tools? Real time? |
| 14:59.30 | Ries | ricky_clarkson: I think I was looking for bing |
| 14:59.32 | petemc | nick23: iptraf |
| 14:59.48 | samuel | nkuttler, the name of a note program? something to help organize data - like a mini database sort of program? |
| 14:59.53 | nick23 | thank you |
| 15:00.07 | nick23 | what is snort? anyone use that - is that a good tool? |
| 15:00.10 | samuel | nkuttler, im not sure if such a program exists or how to look for it |
| 15:00.20 | asg | nick23: it is if you spend the time to configure it properly |
| 15:00.23 | xoz | Dualboot: are you using the debian-made kernel? |
| 15:00.27 | nkuttler | samuel: and i said hnb... you sure do know how to use apt-cache or google? |
| 15:00.27 | beardy | samuel: he gave you a name of such a thing |
| 15:00.30 | Dualboot | I used the installation guy to reinstall lilo, and I think it's not booting the right kernel image. I am at a prompt on the other machine with the root partition mounted and am in /boot. I can't seem to make changes and reinstall lilo because it can't find GLIB_PRIVATE (because it's looking in /lib, and root is mounted as /target because I booted the installation cd) |
| 15:00.30 | jcuk | debian uses grub? or lilo? |
| 15:00.35 | nite613 | either |
| 15:00.39 | nite613 | it's up to you |
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| 15:00.43 | jcuk | o kl |
| 15:00.50 | Dualboot | xoz - I have a custom kernel, I needed some extra stuff |
| 15:01.01 | Dualboot | the image name is vmlinuz-2.6.5-custom, in /boot |
| 15:01.05 | jcuk | will 2.1 MB be enough for grub to install on /boot? |
| 15:01.06 | beardy | Dualboot: installation guy? |
| 15:01.20 | samuel | nkuttler, oooh, i thought that it was something like brb or afaik or something like that! sorry, thanks |
| 15:01.23 | nite613 | nick23: snort is a sniffer with some pattern matching for common attacks/suspicious activity |
| 15:01.31 | nite613 | It's a decent tool if you know what you're trying to do with it |
| 15:01.31 | xoz | Dualboot: pass root=/dev/<drive> when you boot from cd so that your real root will be mounted and you can install lilo from there. |
| 15:01.32 | nkuttler | samuel: np |
| 15:01.35 | Dualboot | beardy - I don't understand |
| 15:01.47 | nite613 | jcuk: I think that's enough |
| 15:01.49 | Dualboot | xoz - I tried that, same complaint but I think it says (0,0), not (3,6) |
| 15:01.53 | xoz | Dualboot: though grub is much better. |
| 15:02.02 | jcuk | heres the deal, i have a 60gig hard drive which cant boot an operating system. and i have a 1.5gb hard drive that can. i have 2.1Mb left of the 1.5gb hard drive and i wnat to install grub to there so it can boot my debian system on the 60gig. possible? |
| 15:02.09 | samuel | nkuttler, that sounds about right, thanks for the tip |
| 15:02.11 | Amit_Karpe | Let say I want to create ISO image from selected s/w . |
| 15:02.17 | nite613 | jcuk: sounds quite possible. |
| 15:02.21 | Dualboot | xoz - Let me try again just to confirm that |
| 15:02.22 | xoz | Dualboot: this custom kernel worked before? |
| 15:02.26 | beardy | Dualboot: neither do I.. "< Dualboot> I used the installation guy to reinstall lilo, and I think" |
| 15:02.37 | jcuk | thanks |
| 15:02.40 | Amit_Karpe | So I will create a list of s/w and that system will create is't bootable ISO . |
| 15:02.40 | Dualboot | beardy - sorry, gui* |
| 15:02.50 | beardy | Dualboot: Oh, heh. |
| 15:03.10 | Dualboot | xoz - yeah it says (0,0) now (at the end of the error) |
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| 15:03.29 | xoz | Dualboot: make sure also that you specified the initrd image if you made one... or make sure the custom kernel has the necessary driver compiled statically for your ide and fs modules. |
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| 15:03.57 | Dualboot | xoz - from the boot prompt? |
| 15:04.03 | xoz | Dualboot: yep. |
| 15:04.20 | Dualboot | xoz - and that's initrd=/boot/image, right? |
| 15:04.48 | nick23 | nite613: Well, we want to install tools so we are emailed/know when suspicious stuff is going on |
| 15:04.49 | Dualboot | I don't really know much of this stuff, I try not to make a habit of breaking my computer :( |
| 15:04.52 | xoz | Dualboot: im not sure with lilo. |
| 15:04.57 | Amit_Karpe | Is customize debain ISO possible ? |
| 15:05.23 | asg | Amit_Karpe: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
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| 15:05.29 | Dualboot | xoz - I'd be happy to switch to grub if that will make getting this up and running easier... I need to get back into linux, I have important work stuff saved there |
| 15:05.32 | xoz | Dualboot: what i meant was boot using rescue disk and pass the root=/dev/... at the bootprompt to load your root. |
| 15:07.20 | vanten^ | is there annyone who know how to get an "hp officejet 5510" to function, scanner etc? |
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| 15:07.39 | Shadda` | hey, can some one wget http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/z/zlib/zlib1g-dev_1.2.2-4.sarge.2_i386.deb |
| 15:07.44 | Shadda` | and tell me what rate they're getting |
| 15:07.48 | be0wulf__ | doesn't work still |
| 15:07.53 | Shadda` | I'm doing .5kb/s for some reason |
| 15:07.56 | be0wulf__ | my mysql installation |
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| 15:08.26 | Shadda` | be0wulf__: did you apt-get install mysql-client mysql-server ? |
| 15:08.45 | asg | Shadda`: security is probably slow again today (like it was last week.) |
| 15:08.52 | LdMud|42 | hihi ... someone here, who can help me with popa3d postfix and nis login ? |
| 15:08.57 | be0wulf__ | yes but the thing is that mysql doesn't show up in phpinfo |
| 15:09.01 | be0wulf__ | somehow it's missing |
| 15:09.16 | be0wulf__ | maybe i have to a2enmod sth? |
| 15:09.18 | tmccrary | You need php4-mysql |
| 15:09.24 | asg | LdMud|42: #postfix is your first stop |
| 15:09.27 | tmccrary | I think that's the package name |
| 15:09.27 | be0wulf__ | yeah i wanted to use php5 |
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| 15:09.29 | tmccrary | et me check |
| 15:09.30 | tmccrary | oh |
| 15:09.32 | be0wulf__ | php4 worked |
| 15:09.34 | be0wulf__ | with mysql |
| 15:09.37 | tmccrary | gotcha |
| 15:09.40 | LdMud|42 | ah @ asg |
| 15:09.46 | tmccrary | Hmm, I haven't used php5, sorry |
| 15:09.46 | stew | be0wulf__: what version of debian are you running? |
| 15:09.48 | Shadda` | you need to make sure you got mysql-client |
| 15:09.51 | be0wulf__ | sarge |
| 15:10.00 | be0wulf__ | yeah it is installed @shadda |
| 15:10.08 | tmccrary | In general though, you'd going to need the php extensions for mysql |
| 15:10.12 | be0wulf__ | mysql-client is already the newest version. |
| 15:10.31 | tmccrary | php needs glue code to be able to use mysql |
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| 15:11.29 | stew | be0wulf__: you need an extensions= line for mysql in /etc/php5/apache/php.ini or something similar. but php5 isn't suppoted under sarge, so you are kinda on your own |
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| 15:12.02 | Dualboot | xoz - I can boot rescue, but it complains: The device node /dev/hda6 for the root filesystem is missing, incorrect, or there is no entry for the root filesystem listed in /etc/fstab. The system is also unable to create a temporary node in /dev/shm to use as a work-around. This means you will need to fix this manually. |
| 15:12.17 | Dualboot | xoz - then asks for root password or control-d |
| 15:12.27 | Sepho | how can I set local time?? |
| 15:12.38 | abrotman | grendal_prime: fix it |
| 15:12.45 | Dualboot | xoz - /dev/hda6 *is* listed in /etc/fstab |
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| 15:13.02 | stew | Sepho: date -s. you might wanna install ntp-simple instead |
| 15:13.08 | stew | Sepho: unless you are talking about timezones |
| 15:13.11 | xoz | Dualboot: you boot using the image from cd? |
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| 15:13.44 | mortal5 | I need help getting my usb mouse working |
| 15:13.51 | stew | mortal5: /msg dpkg usb mouse |
| 15:13.54 | Dualboot | xoz - yeah I used the cd, and did 'rescue root=/dev/hda6' |
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| 15:13.55 | mortal5 | the kernel picks it up |
| 15:14.03 | xoz | Dualboot: ok. |
| 15:14.05 | prim | i need help to install ssh server |
| 15:14.07 | prim | !!!! |
| 15:14.07 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 15:14.15 | Dualboot | xoz - despite the complaints about /dev/hda6, it did mount it as root, and rw |
| 15:14.17 | grendal_prime | abrotman, no |
| 15:14.20 | stew | prim: apt-get install ssh |
| 15:14.25 | abrotman | grendal_prime: now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:14.27 | Japs | Alguem ai fala portugues |
| 15:14.30 | stew | !br |
| 15:14.30 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:14.31 | asg | !BR |
| 15:14.31 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:14.33 | Dualboot | xoz - wait one second |
| 15:14.36 | Sepho | [stew] to reconfigure it?? |
| 15:14.48 | prim | i have installed ssh |
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| 15:14.50 | stew | Sepho: to reconfigure what, exactly? |
| 15:14.55 | grendal_prime | just got back to my office...was explaining how to use ppoint to make training presentations |
| 15:14.57 | Sepho | the system time |
| 15:15.05 | xoz | Dualboot: try mount -a for the rest. |
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| 15:15.57 | stew | Sepho: date -s |
| 15:15.57 | stew | Sepho: man date |
| 15:15.57 | JonB | my pam_winbindd dies all the time :( |
| 15:15.58 | stew | prim: on sarge aka stable? |
| 15:15.58 | xoz | Dualboot: and check what were mounted |
| 15:15.58 | grendal_prime | abrotman, this damn portmap prob is pissing me off |
| 15:15.58 | grendal_prime | i have an nfs mount in my fstab. it is running through a vpn connection. if i set the thing to automount portmapper hangs on boot. |
| 15:15.58 | solaris00 | I can`t configure a printer on debian sarge 3.1, I have tried i many ways but the printer just print garbage, somebody can help me? |
| 15:16.04 | grendal_prime | its like nfs has not started yet so portmapper cannot ...well connect remote drives basically |
| 15:16.09 | xoz | Dualboot: if there is no problem, you can install grub. what is good with grub is that you can edit your boot parameters just in case there are problems during boot-up. |
| 15:16.15 | Dualboot | xoz - it mounted /dev/hdb6, not /dev/hda6 as root... but from the installation cd if I drop to a console, I mount /dev/hda6... there is no primary slave drive in this machine. |
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| 15:17.00 | grendal_prime | i tried setting portmap to run later in the init process...rc2.d i think it was |
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| 15:17.11 | xoz | Dualboot: i see. so chroot may be the next option. |
| 15:17.19 | be0wulf__ | great now i've got php4 |
| 15:17.19 | grendal_prime | but its like portmap is starting in rc1.d or something is that possible abrotman ? |
| 15:17.20 | be0wulf__ | php5 |
| 15:17.24 | be0wulf__ | and php5.0 directories |
| 15:17.54 | solaris00 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.03 | be0wulf__ | respectively all of them are installed |
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| 15:18.14 | Dualboot | xoz - I had to make configuration changes to backup information onto another drive when I reinstalled :( |
| 15:18.26 | abrotman | grendal_prime: are you using nfs ? |
| 15:18.54 | abrotman | and did you check your logs for errors |
| 15:18.59 | abrotman | like if it couldn't find localhost |
| 15:19.11 | Dualboot | xoz - bash: chroot: command not found |
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| 15:19.26 | JonB | pam_winbind dies with write to socket failed! |
| 15:20.24 | be0wulf__ | maybe it's gonna work now |
| 15:20.31 | be0wulf__ | hope dies at last |
| 15:20.32 | be0wulf__ | *g* |
| 15:20.35 | xoz | Dualboot: what you can do is use knoppix or any livecd and chroot to your real root. then install lilo/grub from there. also use a vanilla kernel to make sure it will boot properly. |
| 15:20.38 | Dualboot | xoz - and while mount says / is mounted rw, I can't write to it (Read-only filesystem) |
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| 15:20.48 | abrotman | or use a grub floppy |
| 15:20.56 | abrotman | (assuming ext2/3) |
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| 15:21.06 | Dualboot | it's ext2 |
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| 15:21.49 | Amit_Karpe | asg: Thanks. I think this will help me . |
| 15:21.52 | abrotman | !grub floppy |
| 15:21.55 | abrotman | hrm |
| 15:22.08 | xoz | Dualboot: what filesystem? ok. seems you have to do fsck before mounting. |
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| 15:22.33 | solaris00 | I am not using NFS and the logs doesn't say anything, it looks like the printer is correctly configured. |
| 15:22.34 | abrotman | !grub floppy image |
| 15:22.36 | dpkg | well, grub floppy image is ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ |
| 15:22.36 | abrotman | yay! |
| 15:23.01 | stew | but i don't run alpha |
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| 15:23.07 | xoz | !grub-menu-floppy |
| 15:23.07 | dpkg | hmm... grub-menu-floppy is a set of scripts which can be found at http://mirrorlynx.com/people/dan/grub-menu-floppy.tar.gz and is used to make a grub boot disc with a menu interface |
| 15:23.16 | be0wulf__ | so doesn't work stll |
| 15:23.34 | Dualboot | I need rawrite for windows? :( |
| 15:23.39 | abrotman | stew: it's not for alpha |
| 15:23.40 | Dualboot | I'm on my girlfriend's computer hehe |
| 15:23.53 | solaris00 | Somebode can help me to configure my printer? who? |
| 15:23.55 | abrotman | stew: that's the name of the computer |
| 15:24.00 | stew | abrotman: :) |
| 15:24.30 | huston | you need to let them know what type of printer |
| 15:24.34 | asg | Dualboot: http://www.tux.org/pub/dos/rawrite/ |
| 15:25.04 | solaris00 | I have a deskjet 610C how can i configure easily? |
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| 15:26.03 | Dualboot | xoz - I'm working on this disk, if you're gonna head to sleep, goodnight and thanks. if not, I'll be right back |
| 15:26.04 | huston | do you have the packages installed for it |
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| 15:26.31 | solaris00 | when I installes debian I installes teh printer server |
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| 15:27.00 | solaris00 | I installed the print sever. |
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| 15:28.09 | solaris00 | I know how to share with samba.. but I can't configure it well on debian... |
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| 15:28.26 | huston | I used cups |
| 15:28.28 | be0wulf__ | finally |
| 15:28.38 | be0wulf__ | almost trew my server out of the window |
| 15:28.41 | be0wulf__ | lucky one |
| 15:28.45 | be0wulf__ | threw |
| 15:28.53 | solaris00 | I tried with cups and lpd but it the printer just print garbage... |
| 15:29.26 | solaris00 | the printer just prints garbage. |
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| 15:30.43 | Morti | How do I add an include path? I'm trying to compile something but the libraries aren't in the usual places since I don't have root on this box. |
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| 15:31.10 | valdyn_ | !cups setup |
| 15:31.10 | dpkg | methinks cups setup is Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy! |
| 15:31.15 | pureone | ./configure --help should say |
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| 15:31.41 | solaris00 | I have read some howto but they haven't worked... |
| 15:31.42 | stew | Morti: what are you trying to compile? |
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| 15:32.03 | Dualboot | those grub files are source, is there somewhere I can get a precompiled image? :( |
| 15:32.18 | valdyn_ | dpkg, cups setup~=s/cupsomatic-ppd/cupsomatic-ppd, gs-esp/ |
| 15:32.19 | Morti | imlib2 |
| 15:32.23 | huston | have you got the foomatic db installed |
| 15:32.31 | valdyn_ | dpkg, cups setup=~s/cupsomatic-ppd/cupsomatic-ppd, gs-esp/ |
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| 15:32.40 | solaris00 | I installed foomatic-bin. |
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| 15:32.48 | solaris00 | Is it? |
| 15:32.49 | vanten^ | do someone know a good "howto" for install of java runtime? |
| 15:33.02 | stew | vanten^: /msg dpkg install java |
| 15:33.05 | valdyn_ | dpkg, cups setup ~= s/cupsomatic-ppd/cupsomatic-ppd, gs-esp/ |
| 15:33.12 | valdyn_ | gah |
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| 15:33.27 | nono31 | I have my sn25p sound card working... but it seems to be limited to 1 app use... I mean when 1 app use sound, a second one can't... any idea how to manage improve this? |
| 15:33.35 | valdyn_ | !tell vanten^ -about java-package |
| 15:33.36 | feluc1 | helllo |
| 15:33.39 | Morti | stew: imlib2, but it needs freetype, which I've compiled but it's in my home directory. |
| 15:33.40 | be0wulf__ | Warning: mysql_pconnect() [function.mysql-pconnect]: Access denied for user: 'www-data@localhost' (Using password: NO) in /var/www/index.php on line 3 |
| 15:33.40 | grendal_prime | abrotman, ya i am using nfs |
| 15:33.43 | stew | !wayc Morti |
| 15:33.45 | dpkg | Morti: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 15:33.46 | feluc1 | hello |
| 15:33.48 | be0wulf__ | i've never been happier about a error |
| 15:33.49 | jcuk | anyone know how to get debian to install anywhere other than the first partiton on the partition list? that comes under ext2/3? |
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| 15:33.54 | Morti | stew: I don't have root on this machine. |
| 15:34.00 | valdyn_ | jcuk: uh? |
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| 15:34.05 | Morti | As I said above. |
| 15:34.13 | feluc1 | algien abla en español |
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| 15:34.15 | jcuk | debian is installing to my boot partition and theres only 2.1mb there :( |
| 15:34.18 | stew | !es |
| 15:34.18 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 15:34.28 | feluc1 | spanish |
| 15:34.31 | valdyn_ | jcuk: so why dont you pick another partition? |
| 15:34.39 | jcuk | it wont let me |
| 15:34.47 | jcuk | i just goto install base system and it goes straight into the installation |
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| 15:34.58 | valdyn_ | jcuk: it sure lets you, select a partition, set the mountpoint, tata |
| 15:35.21 | huston | hpijs may heve some drivers you need. |
| 15:35.24 | grendal_prime | openvpn fires up when the network nic gets inied...that portion seems to come up ok..im using 10.0.0.2 for that machine on the vpn..then i have nfs mount the othermachine on the vpn |
| 15:35.25 | abrotman | grendal_prime: ah ok |
| 15:35.47 | stew | abrotman: you run imp from /usr/local/ or from the deb packages? |
| 15:36.09 | valdyn_ | jcuk: try again from scratch maybe, i dont know the d-i menu by heart, though I'm sure you can install wherever you want |
| 15:36.11 | solaris00 | I installed that package. |
| 15:36.16 | abrotman | stew: i tried the debian packages .. i got pissed off :) |
| 15:36.20 | grendal_prime | you know threw the vpn...thing is...if i have auto mount enabled on the fstab entry...it hangs |
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| 15:36.28 | stew | abrotman: that's not the answer i was hoping for |
| 15:36.29 | abrotman | stew: but i put mine in .... /var/www/horde/ iirc |
| 15:36.30 | huston | I had to manually install the driver for my 722c |
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| 15:36.39 | abrotman | stew: i'm sure they work .. and if you want .. i can try them again |
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| 15:36.40 | as13 | on sid kernel compilation errors 'suffix or operands invalid for `mov'' |
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| 15:36.47 | jcuk | i go through the installation to partition disks, i partition and formatt then it brings back up the menu. next on the list is install the base system.. |
| 15:36.48 | stew | abrotman: i'm about to |
| 15:36.49 | jcuk | so i enter that |
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| 15:36.59 | stew | abrotman: i'm tired of supporting this in /usr/local |
| 15:37.01 | valdyn_ | as13: trying to compile which kernel? |
| 15:37.02 | jcuk | Installing debian base system. |
| 15:37.03 | solaris00 | can you tell me how to do that? |
| 15:37.14 | abrotman | stew: if you tell me the errors you come across .. i might know the solutions |
| 15:37.20 | grendal_prime | it hangs on the portion of boot where it says portmapper is mounting remote drives |
| 15:37.31 | mortal5 | ok, progress! I can now cat /dev/input/mice, and get something! |
| 15:37.33 | abrotman | grendal_prime: did you look for errors ? |
| 15:37.41 | solaris00 | Do you have a manual how to? |
| 15:37.55 | as13 | valdyn_: any - 2.4.26 till 2.6.11, both oficial and debian |
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| 15:38.04 | mortal5 | but it still isn't working completely |
| 15:38.05 | valdyn_ | solaris00: 'make-jpkg --help' |
| 15:38.10 | jcuk | anyone else know how to get debian to install to a partition on a hard drive of your choice? |
| 15:38.11 | valdyn_ | solaris00: its really really easy |
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| 15:38.35 | valdyn_ | as13: both cannot be compiled with gcc-4.0 |
| 15:38.45 | pirre | I'm having trouble locating the file that specifies which modules that should be insmod'ed at boot time, I'm using 2.6.12, can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 15:38.47 | valdyn_ | as13: and just that compiler is debian's default in sid |
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| 15:38.54 | jcuk | i question why i have never had this problem before :S |
| 15:39.06 | huston | do you have hpijs installed |
| 15:39.20 | stew | abrotman: when i click on address book from a compose window i get a blank page |
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| 15:39.30 | valdyn_ | as13: MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" make-kpkg kernel-image ( or somesuch ) is required atm |
| 15:39.32 | takatumi | pirre: /etc/modules |
| 15:39.33 | abrotman | stew: with the debs or with the source pacakges? |
| 15:39.39 | stew | abrotman: old source packages |
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| 15:39.47 | abrotman | stew: you did install turba .. and configure sources for it .. right ? |
| 15:40.04 | stew | abrotman: yeah and turba works, just not from compose.php -> contacts.php |
| 15:40.07 | pirre | takatumi: but there are modules loaded that aren't specified in that file |
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| 15:40.15 | valdyn_ | as13: ask people how to set compiler for make-kpkg i suppose, i dont know for sure myself |
| 15:40.16 | solaris00 | yes. |
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| 15:40.46 | cahoot | pirre: discover and/or hotplug at work probably |
| 15:40.49 | solaris00 | I have installed hpijs. |
| 15:41.00 | Morti | So how do I specify an include directory to use with ./configure? |
| 15:41.12 | takatumi | pirre: module loading is also controlled by discover and hotplug |
| 15:41.17 | valdyn_ | Morti: './configure --help' |
| 15:41.27 | Morti | valdyn_: Yep, did that, can't find it there. |
| 15:41.27 | kingsley__ | Is there an archive of #debian log files in xchat's format? |
| 15:41.28 | pirre | cahoot, takatumi: oh, okay. I'm using ubuntu, so discover most probably, and I've seen hotplug starting as well. Thanks! |
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| 15:41.49 | solaris00 | I know its very easy I used to work with red hat and it was ver easy, but I Can't with debian.. |
| 15:41.52 | abrotman | stew: uhm .. that i've not seen .. they all work in the 'Administration" pat ? |
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| 15:42.10 | huston | http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_610C |
| 15:42.14 | takatumi | pirre: check with #ubuntu to be sure |
| 15:42.17 | stew | abrotman: "Administration"? |
| 15:42.19 | huston | there is a page on the 610 |
| 15:42.21 | pirre | takatumi: will do. |
| 15:42.23 | valdyn_ | solaris00: its very easy with debian if you follow what dpkg said and also install gs-esp |
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| 15:42.25 | abrotman | stew: which version of horde are you on? |
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| 15:42.34 | stew | abrotman: i'm gonna try the .debs and then see how bad it looks like its going to be to port these patches |
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| 15:42.46 | valdyn_ | solaris00: but if you happened to switch off and on your printer while a printjob is running you *sure* get fucked output |
| 15:42.53 | abrotman | stew: i mean .. in sarge it's Imp4 and Horde3 iirc |
| 15:42.54 | incorrect | is it possible to do 1:1 nat for specific udp and tcp ports? |
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| 15:43.01 | huston | I had to find my driver |
| 15:43.06 | stew | abrotman: yeah i'm definately using something older than that |
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| 15:43.15 | huston | do a make command and then do a make install |
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| 15:43.25 | valdyn_ | incorrect: whatever you really mean.. likely yes |
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| 15:43.27 | abrotman | stew: you're using the old purple stuff |
| 15:43.29 | abrotman | ? |
| 15:43.32 | stew | abrotman: 3.0.1 and 2.2.3 |
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| 15:43.59 | abrotman | stew: yeah .. that's our old stuff i'm trying to replace |
| 15:44.02 | incorrect | im just after being about to do 1:1 nat for dns servers |
| 15:44.17 | abrotman | stew: and for that .. that is our sole RH7.3 leftover |
| 15:44.21 | as13 | valdyn_: i tried 3.3 and 3.4 |
| 15:44.25 | solaris00 | Valdyn: My printer is always on. |
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| 15:45.06 | stew | ugh, s.d.o is as slow as <insert something really slow here> again |
| 15:45.07 | abrotman | stew: nothing in the horde log in /tmp ? |
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| 15:45.19 | abrotman | (or wherever you put it) |
| 15:45.20 | valdyn_ | as13: the package build-essential is installed? |
| 15:45.25 | stew | wow! there is a horde log in tmp! |
| 15:45.33 | abrotman | stew: don't patronize me :) |
| 15:45.35 | valdyn_ | as13: do you even have the other 2 compilers installed? |
| 15:45.46 | informB | hello! anyone knows good oneNote-like app for linux? |
| 15:45.46 | abrotman | stew: i was just asking :) |
| 15:45.54 | abrotman | informB: wtf is oneNote ? |
| 15:46.12 | abrotman | stew: or are you serious .. you didn't know it was there? |
| 15:46.18 | jcuk | i am, getting, irritated :S |
| 15:46.20 | stew | abrotman: i really didn't know there was one :) nothing but errors i fixed an hour ago in there |
| 15:46.24 | informB | abrotman, it is note-taking, agenda-like software for wndows... |
| 15:46.30 | abrotman | stew: you can up the log level |
| 15:46.38 | abrotman | wtf is agenda ? |
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| 15:46.46 | abrotman | maybe i'm not a good one to ask :) |
| 15:46.53 | informB | abrotman, maybe |
| 15:46.53 | jcuk | go back to high school if you dont know what an agenda is |
| 15:46.53 | CruX_ | hi is this true ? |
| 15:46.54 | CruX_ | All computers are automaticlly restarted after 6 hours, this is because Linux only can handle about 20000 connections at the same time. Then the TCP/IP stack dies. |
| 15:46.58 | abrotman | !onenote |
| 15:47.00 | abrotman | !agenda |
| 15:47.07 | abrotman | informB: search freshmeat ? |
| 15:47.21 | informB | abrotman, wtf is freshmeat? |
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| 15:47.30 | abrotman | !freshmeat |
| 15:47.30 | dpkg | somebody said freshmeat was at http://freshmeat.net/, or _the_ place to search for whatever piece of software you know of/have heard of/dreamt of ... |
| 15:47.35 | valdyn_ | CruX_: that is bullshit |
| 15:47.42 | jcuk | CruX_ If that were true we would have mmorpg's |
| 15:47.47 | solaris00 | Huston: Thank you I going to try with the address... |
| 15:47.51 | jcuk | fucking WANK |
| 15:47.59 | jcuk | POS bull! |
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| 15:48.18 | jcuk | why the hell wont debian install to the bloody root partition >8-[ |
| 15:48.44 | solaris00 | Valdyn: Thank you, I going to see your instructions... |
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| 15:49.55 | valdyn_ | jcuk: that is an oxymoron, a root partition is defined as the partition where / is |
| 15:50.08 | silvertear | can someone that is using an optical usb mouse on Xorg give me that particular section of thier xorg.conf? |
| 15:50.35 | jcuk | which infact in this case is hdb1. but debian wont allow me to install the fucking base system files to it >< ! |
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| 15:50.45 | valdyn_ | silvertear: it looks the same as any other mouse in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for 2.6.x kernels |
| 15:50.57 | valdyn_ | silvertear: which is /dev/input/mice |
| 15:51.28 | silvertear | valdyn_: under protocol, it says something like ImPS/2 |
| 15:51.35 | valdyn_ | !usbmouse |
| 15:51.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
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| 15:51.42 | silvertear | valdyn_: that particularly looks wrong since nothing is in the ps/2 slot |
| 15:52.11 | silvertear | valdyn_: thx i will follow these instructions |
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| 15:52.19 | valdyn_ | silvertear: its a protocol type, nothing else, 2.6.x kernels expose the same protocol for all mice |
| 15:52.32 | mortal5_ | yay! my mouse is working! |
| 15:53.06 | mortal5_ | now, why isn't my sound? (compiled in alsa drivers for my sound card) |
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| 15:53.09 | mz_work | silvertear: http://pastebin.com/382730 <-works for me |
| 15:53.11 | Sepho | how can I change localhost name??? |
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| 15:53.18 | asg | Sepho: /msg dpkg hostname |
| 15:53.29 | asg | Sepho: or /msg apt hostname (if dpkg is still awol) |
| 15:53.31 | xelam | you don't change localhost |
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| 15:53.47 | jcuk | let me ask a question. i presume since all of you are here then you have or are getting the debian distro of linux. therefore, 99% of you will know how to install it, and not one of you can tell me how to install the base system files and kernel to the root parititon? |
| 15:54.07 | asg | jcuk: ? That's what the installer does |
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| 15:54.25 | jcuk | haha, well its a smart installer putting it onto a 2.5mb /boot partition eh |
| 15:54.39 | valdyn_ | jcuk: the point is WHEREVER it installs things IS the root partition, not what you are telling us |
| 15:54.47 | asg | jcuk: did you create a root partition? |
| 15:55.06 | jcuk | root partition, hdb1 9.0 GB ext3 / |
| 15:55.17 | Sepho | thanks |
| 15:55.20 | darkness | Anyone fancy doing an nmap on my box metawire.net to see what ports are open? |
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| 15:55.36 | xelam | jcuk: and why won't it install to hdb1? |
| 15:55.43 | valdyn_ | jcuk: 2.5 mb for /boot is to small |
| 15:55.57 | cahoot | darkness: there are online services for that - like grc.com |
| 15:55.58 | jcuk | no its not, not according to others here |
| 15:55.58 | asg | darkness: join efnet and any random channel. Call someone at random a tard. You are guaranteed to be nmap'd then. |
| 15:56.19 | valdyn_ | jcuk: maybe others are clueless, 2.5mb is practically to small |
| 15:56.24 | jcuk | i asked if it was okay for /boot as ill be installing lilo too it |
| 15:56.33 | darkness | asg: Or DoS'd :-) |
| 15:56.43 | asg | jcuk: 100M is probably the minimum for /boot (maybe 50M if your kernel is light and you don't plan to have many around.) |
| 15:56.44 | xelam | quakenet is as bad :P |
| 15:56.50 | manbox | i need to recover som loft inode files.. any ideas? pm me.. |
| 15:56.59 | asg | manbox: man fsck |
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| 15:57.13 | jcuk | fair enough, but it still wont change that it will continue installing to boot |
| 15:57.18 | valdyn_ | jcuk: a single kernel with no modules is ~1.5 mb |
| 15:57.23 | blame | how do I unrar files and preserve directory structure? unrar e file.rar ignores folders and extracts all in one. |
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| 15:58.04 | jcuk | forget, about, the boot size. i need to know how to install base files and kernel to the root partition i created |
| 15:58.10 | jcuk | being hdb1 |
| 15:58.11 | valdyn_ | jcuk: your System.map is probably ~1mb |
| 15:58.20 | jcuk | i get the point |
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| 15:58.58 | asg | jcuk: in the installer partitioning tool, you define which partition is root, which is swap, which is /boot and any others. Then you let it partition them and then it installs in the right place. |
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| 15:59.12 | asg | jcuk: if that doesn't work, you have either done something wrong or your system is playing silly buggers. |
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| 15:59.21 | asg | jcuk: #debian-boot might have to be consulted in that case. |
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| 15:59.32 | jcuk | well if 9 GB is too small for a root partition, i dont know |
| 15:59.35 | valdyn_ | 99.999% this is a pebkac error anyway |
| 15:59.47 | valdyn_ | jcuk: your /boot is to small |
| 15:59.51 | jcuk | i do recall installing windows once long time ago |
| 16:00.04 | jcuk | it displayed this 60gig hard drive had 200terabytes |
| 16:00.29 | jcuk | unsual but i considered that a display error on windows installer part |
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| 16:01.13 | valdyn_ | jcuk: your debian install doesnt even get to do much at all with /boot being to small i suppose |
| 16:01.34 | jcuk | hold on ill try recreating the linux partitions on the 60gig |
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| 16:01.41 | jcuk | ill put boot on it too and see if it works |
| 16:01.48 | jcuk | 300Mb for boot? |
| 16:01.59 | debian | Como eu diminuo a fonte padrao do servidor X? Estou usando Debian Sarge com Fluxbox |
| 16:02.10 | valdyn_ | jcuk: 100 is good |
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| 16:02.31 | valdyn_ | jcuk: heck 50 is good, but i wouldnt want to limit myself when hd size is counted in gig not mb |
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| 16:02.48 | asg | !tell debian about es |
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| 16:03.11 | valdyn_ | jcuk: 100mb is ~ 3-5 debian kernels |
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| 16:03.48 | valdyn_ | jcuk: oh sorry , no, plenty more |
| 16:04.00 | valdyn_ | jcuk: say ~5mb per kernel in boot |
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| 16:04.24 | kiweed | nick kiweed |
| 16:04.24 | laszlo_ | maybe i have luck here. im a little bit offtopic, every util from debian: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xl322B68.html and http://rafb.net/paste/results/LoEoec85.html ... what am i doing wrong? why that memory crap after the result of the perl script? |
| 16:04.46 | samuel | is there a totem plugin for firefox? |
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| 16:05.15 | samuel | there is a ton of websites that talk about it but none has it |
| 16:05.27 | jcuk | i thought you said 100 for a full kernel |
| 16:05.57 | valdyn_ | samuel: its new, its probably not even usuable |
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| 16:06.21 | valdyn_ | jcuk: i didnt |
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| 16:06.46 | bwana147_ | laszlo_: what are you trying to achieve ? |
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| 16:07.02 | laszlo_ | bwana147_, long to describe. |
| 16:07.11 | laszlo_ | I just got a memory crap issue |
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| 16:07.36 | bwana147_ | what does "memory crap" mean ? |
| 16:08.07 | valdyn_ | we're supposed to guess the error i think |
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| 16:08.43 | debian | how a configure the size font of X-server? |
| 16:08.59 | valdyn_ | debian: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 16:09.25 | jcuk | seems to have worked now i moved boot to ext3 on hdb |
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| 16:09.34 | jcuk | grub was installed to hd0 |
| 16:09.41 | lancelot | good evening everybody |
| 16:09.43 | jcuk | which means i technically dont need /boot on hda to boot the system on hdb? |
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| 16:10.14 | valdyn_ | jcuk: sure you dont need /boot on hda |
| 16:10.21 | jcuk | rofl |
| 16:10.27 | jcuk | sweet, grub came up fine |
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| 16:10.37 | jcuk | last time i did something like that it displayed error loading o/s |
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| 16:10.49 | jcuk | my 60gig hdd is fucked, but still chuggs along |
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| 16:11.06 | lancelot | i need your help.i tried to recompile kernel modules on my official sarge distro but when i reboot i have a kernel-panic message and i don't understand why! |
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| 16:11.17 | jcuk | i av had every windows o/s run on it, about 3 different linux distro's and its been partitioned so many times i cant even count |
| 16:11.22 | BrianR___ | Does anyone know why pressing ctrl left/right arrow (previous/next word in most apps) might cause xfree86 to use 100% cpu for several seconds? |
| 16:11.43 | nono31 | How do I connect to remote X server? |
| 16:11.43 | lancelot | the message tells me to write in the configuration e right "root=" partition, but i've never modified that row in lilo.conf! |
| 16:11.46 | lancelot | :-( |
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| 16:12.27 | lancelot | please help me if you can |
| 16:12.29 | debian | i like diminish the font |
| 16:12.37 | valdyn_ | lancelot: and you arent going to tell us which error message you are getting? |
| 16:12.47 | stew | lancelot: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 16:12.58 | stew | i guess nothing since he can't boot |
| 16:13.18 | stew | lancelot: you compiled your own kernel |
| 16:13.18 | lancelot | 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 16:13.25 | jcuk | SAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT |
| 16:13.29 | cahoot | stew: uname -wish then |
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| 16:13.49 | jcuk | getting 440kb/s download when downloading the packages for debian |
| 16:13.56 | lancelot | i don't remember where are the kernel messages |
| 16:14.01 | valdyn_ | debian: your X Server doesn't render fonts, X applications use various different mechanisms to display fonts, so your question should be: "how do i make kde fonts smaller" or "how do you make X dots per inch setting reflect reality" |
| 16:14.07 | mortal5_ | ok, I'm installing java (I've already asked dpkg, and installed java-base), now, is there an actual java sdk .deb package? |
| 16:14.09 | jcuk | why do i get maximum download speed when downloading packages via ftp in debian on console? |
| 16:14.39 | lancelot | uname -r says 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 16:14.44 | Laibsch | Trying to get postgres running on my testing system. |
| 16:14.48 | Laibsch | The first uncommented line in my pg_hba.conf is "local all postgres ident sameuser". So I guess, I should be able to connect locally as postgres user to any database. This is not the case. This is a Debian default install. Where is the problem, how do I find out? |
| 16:14.52 | valdyn_ | debian: so i still dont know what you really want to do |
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| 16:15.06 | jcuk | 437kb/s :o |
| 16:15.12 | jcuk | 460 wtf |
| 16:15.15 | jcuk | i only have 4mb |
| 16:15.27 | valdyn_ | jcuk: so? |
| 16:15.31 | jcuk | oh yeah 120kb/s max per 1mb, right.. |
| 16:15.50 | stew | lancelot: and what did you try to do? recompile what? |
| 16:15.52 | jcuk | so maximum for 4mb would be 480kb/s |
| 16:16.01 | valdyn_ | jcuk: capitalistation matters |
| 16:16.11 | jcuk | dictionary.com |
| 16:16.18 | bbrazil | Laibsch: its been a while, but I think that means postgres can connect to just the postgres DB |
| 16:16.19 | lancelot | stew i recompiled the kernel in /usr/src/linux |
| 16:16.33 | thingfish | For the first time, yesterday I built (the Debian way, with make-kpkg) a kernel using linux-source-2.6.12 and the .config from linux-headers-2.6.12-1-686. It seemed to build fine, however once back in gnome I noticed ALSA had not picked up my soundcard. I updated udev, but this didn't help. |
| 16:16.40 | thingfish | I don't know what I did wrong. |
| 16:16.41 | debian | how do i make fluxbox fonts smaller? |
| 16:16.41 | stew | lancelot: using make-kpkg? |
| 16:16.45 | lancelot | adding some acpi options 'cause of my laptop battery status |
| 16:16.51 | lancelot | stew yes |
| 16:16.53 | stew | lancelot: what kernel is in /usr/src/linux? 2.6.8? |
| 16:16.59 | lancelot | yes |
| 16:17.03 | nkuttler | debian: read the docs at fluxbox.sf.net? |
| 16:17.07 | stew | lancelot: did you start with the debian .config? did you use --initrd? |
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| 16:17.34 | lancelot | stew...ehm...what are you saying? |
| 16:17.36 | valdyn_ | debian: try 'apt-get install fluxconf' ( not sure if that can change the fonts too ) |
| 16:17.41 | mortal5_ | nkuttler: is there a java sdk deb package out there? |
| 16:17.53 | mortal5_ | I've already asked dpkg |
| 16:18.03 | valdyn_ | debian: and that won't affect fonts in your applications though |
| 16:18.03 | nkuttler | mortal5_: why do you think i know? |
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| 16:18.13 | stew | lancelot: the error you are getting means that you either need to compile the drivers for your root filesystem and your hard disk controller directly into the kernel (not as modules) or you need to create an initrd |
| 16:18.20 | mortal5_ | because, you are wise and all knowing! |
| 16:18.28 | nkuttler | omfg... |
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| 16:18.37 | valdyn_ | !tell mortal5_ -about java-package |
| 16:18.54 | mortal5_ | !tel valdyn_ I've already read that |
| 16:19.00 | lancelot | i think i need to create an initrd,but honestly i don't know what is it and how to create it! |
| 16:19.31 | stew | lancelot: the --initrd option to make-kpkg |
| 16:19.40 | stew | lancelot: why are you compiling the kernel in the first place? |
| 16:20.01 | solaris00 | Huston: I installed the driver under kde with the foomatic-gui |
| 16:20.09 | mortal5_ | valdyn_: it says to download the sdk from java, but i figured you guys would know where i could find java sdk package w/o netbeans |
| 16:20.14 | lancelot | 'cause i need some acpi options for my laptop(i.e battery status etc...) |
| 16:20.31 | lancelot | i recompiled through make-kpkg clean |
| 16:20.33 | solaris00 | Huston: but the printer continue printing garbage... |
| 16:20.35 | valdyn_ | mortal5_: at java.sun.com |
| 16:20.49 | mortal5_ | valdyn_: "w/o netbeans" |
| 16:21.00 | lancelot | so i issue that i need to recompile through make-kpkg --initrd clean...isn't it? |
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| 16:21.16 | stew | mortal5_: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp click on Download JRE |
| 16:21.30 | mortal5_ | lol, but i need the sdk |
| 16:21.41 | stew | mortal5_: click on Download JDK |
| 16:21.42 | mortal5_ | guess I'll just have to go for the sdk w netbeans |
| 16:21.45 | valdyn_ | mortal5_: why would having netbeans be a problem? |
| 16:22.02 | mortal5_ | valdyn_: because i use ...bah nevermind |
| 16:22.06 | mortal5_ | thx all |
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| 16:22.09 | stew | mortal5_: if you don't want netbeans the don't click on the netbeans link |
| 16:22.13 | lancelot | stew did you read me? |
| 16:22.49 | stew | lancelot: what options did you enable that weren't already enabled in the debian pacakge |
| 16:22.52 | debian | valdyn_: i go restart x... i edit the theme file of fluxbox... tank u |
| 16:23.06 | lancelot | all the acpi options |
| 16:23.31 | valdyn_ | debian: oh, welcome ( though i didnt really help you ) |
| 16:23.45 | MoRLoCh | lancelot: but you started from debian .config or from scratch? |
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| 16:24.10 | H2OyJaBoN | buenas |
| 16:24.11 | lancelot | what is debian .config or scratch? |
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| 16:24.14 | H2OyJaBoN | hi |
| 16:24.20 | stew | lancelot: the only one not enabled in the debian package is CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG and CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_ACPI and CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ_PROC_INTF |
| 16:24.24 | stew | lancelot: do you need any of those? |
| 16:24.43 | lancelot | stew,no |
| 16:24.51 | MoRLoCh | lancelot: the kernel configuration, did you take the one that comes with debian kernels? Or did you configure the kernel from scratch? |
| 16:25.00 | stew | lancelot: then you shouldn't bother recompiling your kernel |
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| 16:25.23 | nkuttler | stew: hm, did you grep for that? |
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| 16:25.45 | stew | nkuttler: i did grep ACPI /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686-smp | grep n |
| 16:26.00 | lancelot | stew that' s not the matter.i should recompile my kernel for any possible reason and it would run correctly! |
| 16:26.09 | nkuttler | stew: ah, you're just talking acpi. i though that the make *config can add lines to the .config |
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| 16:26.27 | ChrisW | what's the correct cron line to run something once every 10 minutes? |
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| 16:26.42 | lancelot | MoRLoCh the .config! |
| 16:26.49 | nkuttler | ChrisW: try man 5 crontab |
| 16:26.59 | stew | nkuttler: ok but i really dont think there are useful ACPI options that arent available in the debian kernel |
| 16:27.07 | nkuttler | stew: probably not |
| 16:27.09 | solaris00 | huston? |
| 16:27.35 | huston | sorry I went to cook |
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| 16:27.44 | lancelot | and moreover stew, i assure you that the acpi modules where not loaded.infact the battery status icon on gnome wm does not work! |
| 16:27.56 | solaris00 | Don't worry, tahnk you. |
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| 16:27.57 | stew | lancelot: modprobe battery |
| 16:28.08 | valdyn_ | lancelot: apt-get install acpid |
| 16:28.18 | huston | I ended up having to install my driver manually |
| 16:28.38 | lancelot | yeah i've installed acpid yet |
| 16:28.41 | MoRLoCh | lancelot: you either left out some other required module such as hd controller or root filesystem (copy from /boot/config-<kernelversion> to /path/to/your/kernel/source/.config and reconfigure the kernel as you like), or didn't create the required initrd (man mkinitrd) |
| 16:28.44 | stew | lancelot: i will absolutely guarantee you that the debian kernel has acpi battery support |
| 16:28.46 | huston | the footmatic gui was not doing it right |
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| 16:28.52 | solaris00 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:29.23 | ChrisW | nkuttler: thanks! |
| 16:29.32 | lancelot | ok stew, so why my battery status icon does not work? |
| 16:29.34 | stew | lancelot: grep ACPI_BATTERY /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 16:29.38 | solaris00 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.45 | stew | lancelot: you needed to load the battery module |
| 16:29.58 | huston | have you checked your log file for your printer |
| 16:30.02 | huston | for errors |
| 16:30.06 | stew | lancelot: or you needed to install acpid and acpi |
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| 16:30.16 | solaris00 | yes, but let me see again... |
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| 16:30.39 | smacnay | I am trying to mount a (possibly unformatted) hard drive that is connected through a USB2 connection. I have tried to mount with -t vfat and -t ntfs but get errors. The device is seen when I 'lsusb'. Anyone done this? |
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| 16:30.58 | lancelot | grep ACPI_BATTERY /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 16:31.10 | galaxydog2000 | I need help with configuring XF86Free-4 on Sarge on a laptop, has anyone had success with this? |
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| 16:31.23 | lancelot | CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m |
| 16:31.25 | nkuttler | smacnay: errors? |
| 16:31.31 | stew | lancelot: that means its a loadable module |
| 16:31.35 | stew | lancelot: modprobe battery |
| 16:31.46 | nkuttler | smacnay: however, if there is no important data on the drive why don't you just simply format it? |
| 16:31.47 | lancelot | modprobe battery gives no results |
| 16:31.56 | stew | lancelot: that means success |
| 16:32.00 | stew | lancelot: type acpi -V |
| 16:32.15 | MoRLoCh | smacnay: if you don't know the filesystem, try with -t auto nd let it guess |
| 16:32.15 | smacnay | nkuttler: I just tried muounting -t usbfs |
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| 16:32.20 | lancelot | Thermal 1: ok, 56.0 degrees C |
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| 16:32.22 | smacnay | MoRLoCh: ok |
| 16:32.23 | Snake_Ice | anybody running user autentication on squid? |
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| 16:32.53 | stew | lancelot: what kind of laptop? |
| 16:33.10 | jonsey | I'm trying to get SWAT working, and according to all the instructions I've found online, after installing I should be able to go to "localhost:901" and it'll start up. However, I keep getting a "Connection Refused..." error. Is there a command or something I have to run to actually start SWAT? None of the instructions I could find said anything abut that. |
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| 16:33.23 | lancelot | stew Acer Travelmate 2300 |
| 16:33.26 | smacnay | MoRLoCh: Days I need to specify filesystem type. |
| 16:33.29 | galaxydog2000 | Anyone willing to help me configure XF86Free-4 on a laptop? |
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| 16:33.39 | smacnay | nkuttler: Can I format it without it being mounted? |
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| 16:33.57 | MoRLoCh | smacnay: are you sure you're trying to access the correct device? check with dmesg |
| 16:34.02 | Snake_Ice | jonsey -> have U removed the # from swat line on /etc/services ? |
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| 16:35.00 | jonsey | Snake_Ice: Nope, because I don't remember reading that before, thanks. |
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| 16:36.07 | Snake_Ice | jonsey -> remove the # and restart the services /etc/init.d/inetd restart |
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| 16:36.17 | lancelot | stew did you read me? |
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| 16:36.22 | jonsey | Snake_Ice: It worked, thanks. |
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| 16:37.00 | huston | time to eat |
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| 16:37.01 | Snake_Ice | np |
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| 16:37.17 | Snake_Ice | anybody running user autentication on squid? pvt me |
| 16:37.20 | huston | hopefully someone here can help you solaris. |
| 16:37.29 | huston | later |
| 16:37.31 | galaxydog2000 | I'm having a lot of trouble configuring XF86Free-4 on a Gateway Solo 5300 with an S3 Savage IX video card, is there anyone here that could help me? Thanks! |
| 16:37.33 | smacnay | MoRLoCh: I am trying to mount /dev/sda to a mount point. My dmesg shows errors around vfat and ntfs. Not being a valid ntfs or fat on the media. |
| 16:37.36 | stew | lancelot: are you sure your machine supports reading battery status via acpi? |
| 16:37.46 | stew | lancelot: check what others have done /msg dkg laptops |
| 16:37.53 | stew | ^dkg^dpkg |
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| 16:38.07 | cahoot | smacnay: should you mount a prtition? |
| 16:38.08 | MoRLoCh | smacnay: check whether you have a partition on it (for example, try to mount sda1) |
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| 16:38.32 | stew | smacnay: does "fdisk -l" show any partitions? |
| 16:38.37 | MoRLoCh | smacnay: to check for partition, try fdisk -l /dev/sda |
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| 16:38.40 | solaris00 | Huston: I saw the syslog an it has some records about kernel parpot0 FIFO is stuck |
| 16:38.47 | lancelot | stew, i think yes, why it should not? |
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| 16:39.19 | stew | lancelot: becuase that would explain why its reporting temp but not battery |
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| 16:39.40 | smacnay | ah, fdisk -l shows th /dev/sda as being there with 40 Gig. |
| 16:39.51 | MoRLoCh | smacnay: no partitions? |
| 16:39.54 | smacnay | I will format that with fdisk /dev/sda ? |
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| 16:40.02 | smacnay | MoRLoCh: none |
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| 16:40.23 | smacnay | MoRLoCh: Would a trhee-line paste be ok? |
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| 16:40.29 | smacnay | oops - thrre |
| 16:40.32 | smacnay | oops |
| 16:40.34 | smacnay | three |
| 16:40.43 | MoRLoCh | smacnay: depends on what you want to do with that hd, but fdisk (or maybe friendlier cfdisk) would partition it |
| 16:41.01 | smacnay | MoRLoCh: I was told I would need to format it. |
| 16:41.09 | lancelot | stew i don't know how to chek if it supports via acpi or not |
| 16:41.15 | too-quick | Hey guys, i need to feel out a fafsa and it only excepts IE browsers...any one know of a simulator or something? |
| 16:41.47 | lancelot | stew moreover, what is /msg dkg laptops? |
| 16:41.53 | jcuk | GRRR |
| 16:42.04 | jcuk | okay ill try this one more time |
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| 16:43.03 | asg | too-quick: there is a firefox plugin that will claim your firefox is IE. mozdev.mozilla.org or somesuch |
| 16:43.12 | too-quick | thanks |
| 16:43.12 | jbroome | user-agent switcher |
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| 16:43.28 | cbr | you can change it manually in about:config too |
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| 16:43.40 | asg | too-quick: if it's some activeX crap though, you'll have to find a real windows box (or run one in qemu or similar) |
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| 16:43.57 | too-quick | asg: ok cool, thanks |
| 16:44.06 | jcuk | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. |
| 16:44.07 | jharrisonwk | anyone know whats giong on with security.debian.org? |
| 16:44.10 | jharrisonwk | its sloooowwwww |
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| 16:44.22 | jharrisonwk | they going to mirror the thing or what? |
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| 16:44.35 | jcuk | This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
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| 16:44.54 | jcuk | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
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| 16:45.09 | lancelot | stew are you alive?:-) |
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| 16:45.14 | jcuk | Ack! Something bad happened while installing packaged. Trying to recover: Press return to continue. |
| 16:45.27 | usn_router | hi folx |
| 16:45.33 | jcuk | Base system not installed. |
| 16:45.37 | jcuk | W.T.F ? :( |
| 16:45.58 | jharrisonwk | im pulling 1931B/s from security.debian.org |
| 16:46.18 | EdgEy | nice |
| 16:46.18 | azeem | jcuk: what are you doing? |
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| 16:46.30 | jcuk | trying to download and install the base system via aptitiude |
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| 16:46.46 | azeem | the base system? |
| 16:46.58 | azeem | what distribution? Are you upgrading? |
| 16:47.02 | jcuk | 'The Debian Base System' |
| 16:47.04 | jcuk | no im installng |
| 16:47.05 | stew | lancelot: sorry, /msg dpkg laptops |
| 16:47.09 | jcuk | sarge |
| 16:47.09 | azeem | via aptitide? |
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| 16:47.11 | azeem | ok |
| 16:47.27 | jcuk | yer well, it says it installed the base system earlier |
| 16:47.28 | lancelot | ok stew....my knowledge does not change....:-) |
| 16:47.31 | azeem | jcuk: do you have testing in sources.list, perhaps? |
| 16:47.39 | jcuk | hold on ill check |
| 16:47.39 | stew | jharrisonwk: yeah, i'm only getting slightly more |
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| 16:47.51 | solaris00 | Valdyn: Huston had to leave the IRC and he told me that the foomatic-gui doesn't work well to configure the printer... |
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| 16:48.10 | solaris00 | can you tell me how to configure manually? |
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| 16:48.12 | jcuk | yes, deb http://debian.blueyonder.co.uk/ testing main |
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| 16:48.20 | jcuk | and the source |
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| 16:48.32 | jharrisonwk | stew: they have any plans to mirror or something? |
| 16:48.40 | azeem | jcuk: so you are installing etch, not sarge |
| 16:48.54 | azeem | is that what you want? |
| 16:48.55 | solaris00 | Valdyn: Do you know how to configure manually? |
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| 16:49.06 | stew | jharrisonwk: yeah, only plans however. i believe ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security is a temporarly unofficial mirror |
| 16:49.11 | lancelot | stew....? |
| 16:49.22 | solaris00 | Valdyn ? |
| 16:49.26 | jcuk | sorry mate i dont get you, i downloaded the sarge net install disk and burned it to cd then inserted and went from there |
| 16:49.28 | stew | lancelot: yeah? |
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| 16:49.37 | azeem | jharrisonwk: did you see http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200510041726 ? |
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| 16:50.12 | xtof | hi, I did configure a profile for gnome-terminal, which execute su -c "tail -f /var/log/syslog | logtool" when starting. But after some times, the log stops to be displayed (I suspect this is due to logrotate). Any idea to avoid that? |
| 16:50.17 | lancelot | stew what is /msg dpkg laptops?:-(( |
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| 16:50.25 | azeem | jcuk: well ok, but something put 'testing' into your sources.list, which will install etch not sarge |
| 16:50.25 | stew | !tell lancelot about laptops |
| 16:50.35 | azeem | jcuk: and etch has known issues with e2fsprogs AFAIK |
| 16:50.45 | jcuk | okay what should i replace testing with? |
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| 16:50.51 | jcuk | unstable? |
| 16:50.58 | azeem | jcuk: so if you really want sarge/stable, you should replace testing with stable |
| 16:51.11 | jcuk | i was told there was no stable out there. |
| 16:51.17 | dondelelcaro | azeem: what known issues? |
| 16:51.18 | azeem | jcuk: huh? |
| 16:51.44 | jcuk | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.44 | azeem | 18:39 < jcuk> E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential |
| 16:51.44 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.44 | azeem | something like that |
| 16:51.47 | dondelelcaro | azeem: yes, that's because jcuk is trying to go directly from woody to testing without passing through sarge. |
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| 16:52.24 | jharrisonwk | azeem: no I didnt see that |
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| 16:52.31 | solaris00 | Sombody can tell me how to configure manually a printer hp dj 610c with cups?? I have teh driver (ppd file) |
| 16:52.41 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: you need to *first* upgrade to sarge; only then can you upgrade to testing or unstable. |
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| 16:52.49 | asg | jharrisonwk: http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200510041726 |
| 16:52.55 | azeem | 18:44 < jcuk> sorry mate i dont get you, i downloaded the sarge net install disk and burned it to cd then inserted and went from there |
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| 16:53.06 | jcuk | dondelelcaro, its the sarge install disk man |
| 16:53.11 | Edward_TLS | security.debian.org <-- slow.. :( |
| 16:53.13 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: dpkg -l e2fsprogs |
| 16:53.19 | Edward_TLS | normaly I get like 2 or 3Mbit/s |
| 16:53.20 | jcuk | dpkg is not installed |
| 16:53.21 | dondelelcaro | !+info e2fsprogs sarge |
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| 16:53.24 | dpkg | e2fsprogs: (ext2 file system utilities and libraries), section base, is required. Version: 1.37-2sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 499 kB, Installed size: 1368 kB |
| 16:53.40 | azeem | jcuk: how did you manage to run aptitude then? |
| 16:53.49 | jharrisonwk | asg: yes ive seen it now |
| 16:53.55 | jcuk | im wrong, sorry lol |
| 16:54.02 | dondelelcaro | !conflicts libc6 testing |
| 16:54.03 | jcuk | gimme a second changing sources.list |
| 16:54.17 | dpkg | libc6: strace (<< 4.0-0), libnss-db (<= 2.2-6.1.1), timezone, timezones, gconv-modules, libtricks, libc6-doc, libc5 (<< 5.4.33-7), libpthread0 (<< 0.7-10), libc6-bin, libwcsmbs, apt (<< 0.3.0), libglib1.2 (<< 1.2.1-2), netkit-rpc, wine (<< 0.0.20031118-1), cyrus-imapd (<< 1.5.19-15), initrd-tools (<< 0.1.79), e2fsprogs (<< 1.35-7) |
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| 16:54.32 | Gnea | Edward_TLS: it's slow here too |
| 16:54.47 | Gnea | 4091 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 |
| 16:54.52 | Gnea | ooooops |
| 16:54.56 | Gijs` | :) |
| 16:55.00 | Gnea | 143029/769kB 18%] 668B/s 15m36s |
| 16:55.05 | Gnea | that's what it should've been |
| 16:55.25 | jcuk | dondelelcaro : i done dpkg -l e2fsprogs what exactly do you want to know? |
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| 16:55.32 | smacnay | hmm, I mounted a newly partitioned and formatted usb device, mounted with -o defaults at /mnt/usb1. As regualr user, I don't have permission to write to the device. I must have missed something. |
| 16:55.42 | jcuk | it says name/version/description |
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| 16:55.44 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: what version of it you've actually got instaleld. |
| 16:55.51 | jcuk | 1.35-6 |
| 16:55.57 | Edward_TLS | Gnea, well I'll wait.. have to go home any way.. bye |
| 16:56.05 | dondelelcaro | !+info e2fsprogs woody |
| 16:56.07 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 16:56.09 | Gnea | heh |
| 16:56.10 | dpkg | e2fsprogs: (The EXT2 file system utilities and libraries.), section base, is required. Version: 1.27-2 (woody), Packaged size: 327 kB, Installed size: 832 kB |
| 16:56.21 | jcuk | see? |
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| 16:56.34 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: right, so you've got a machine which had an old version of sarge on it which you haven't upgraded in ages. |
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| 16:56.49 | jcuk | no, ive got a machine ive just installed sarge on. |
| 16:56.56 | jcuk | or im in the process of doing so |
| 16:56.59 | Gnea | jcuk: via cdrom or the internet? |
| 16:57.00 | azeem | jcuk: where did you get the CD from? |
| 16:57.06 | PeNNiSmAn | Hi, who can help me. I want mount one server web,ftp,dns,mail,firewall |
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| 16:57.18 | jcuk | cd came from internet (net install disk) installed kernel/base system and removed disk |
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| 16:57.22 | jcuk | now installing the rest from internet |
| 16:57.27 | azeem | jcuk: where from the net? |
| 16:57.28 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: which net install disk? |
| 16:57.32 | jcuk | i got the cd from debian.org |
| 16:57.39 | jcuk | sarge net install disk. |
| 16:57.45 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: which one? |
| 16:57.53 | jcuk | theres more than one? |
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| 16:58.00 | PeNNiSmAn | Hi, who can help me. I want mount one server web,ftp,dns,mail,firewall |
| 16:58.02 | solaris00 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.11 | jcuk | i dont know. i just downloaded the i386 one |
| 16:58.11 | PeNNiSmAn | where i can get information |
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| 16:58.17 | Ronin | PeNNiSmAn: i trust you dont mean run all that on a firewall? |
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| 16:58.36 | azeem | jcuk: do you still have the .iso around? What's the filename? |
| 16:58.38 | stew | jcuk: downloaded from what site? |
| 16:58.41 | PeNNiSmAn | Ronin put one firewall in server |
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| 16:58.45 | PeNNiSmAn | iptables |
| 16:58.47 | jcuk | you cant expect me to remember if it was version 3.4.2-10-r14 or 3.4.2-10-r16 can you? |
| 16:58.53 | jcuk | :) |
| 16:58.59 | lancelot | stew i didn't found any information about my specific laptop!!!:-(( it seems it's the only one missing in the list |
| 16:59.02 | azeem | jcuk: do you still have the .iso around? What's the filename? |
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| 16:59.07 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: according to the version of e2fsprogs you've installed, the version of the netinst you've installed with is old; circa Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:58:46 -0400 |
| 16:59.07 | jcuk | stew, for the second time, from debian.org |
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| 16:59.14 | jcuk | i dont have the iso around |
| 16:59.28 | jcuk | must have been 1-2 months ago i got it? maybe more |
| 16:59.32 | azeem | jcuk: well, you apparently did not download/burn the official netinst iso |
| 16:59.39 | dondelelcaro | jcuk: right; well download a new iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso; and burn that. |
| 16:59.40 | azeem | jcuk: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable |
| 16:59.43 | ptlis | Hi, i'm trying to use k3b to create a bootable CD, and after installing it through apt I get the message "Unable to find cdrdao executable". "apt-cache search cdrdao" returns no results though. How can I get cdrdao/what are the alternatives? |
| 16:59.51 | kombi_ | I am on testing/unstable, how do I upgrade to php5? |
| 16:59.52 | jcuk | it was unstable when i first got it |
| 16:59.58 | azeem | jcuk: huh? |
| 17:00.10 | asg | kombi_: /msg dpkg php5 (YMMV) |
| 17:00.11 | jcuk | SARGE WAS IN TESTING / UNSTABLE WHEN I GOT IT! |
| 17:00.21 | azeem | jcuk: sarge was stable 1-2 months ago |
| 17:00.36 | jcuk | then, as i said i must have got it before then ! |
| 17:00.36 | asg | kombi_: oh, wait. Dunno if it's in testing but it is in unstable. |
| 17:00.42 | azeem | did you mean 1-2 years? |
| 17:00.45 | jcuk | no |
| 17:00.51 | stew | sarge went stable in early june |
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| 17:00.56 | kombi_ | asg: never quite got the difference.. |
| 17:00.56 | jcuk | was before that |
| 17:00.59 | azeem | jcuk: well, anyway, get the official sarge netinst dondelelcaro pointed you at |
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| 17:01.08 | jcuk | okay. thanks |
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| 17:01.11 | asg | kombi_: between what? |
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| 17:01.24 | jcuk | but cant i just change my sources.list and update? |
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| 17:01.37 | kombi_ | asg: when I do apt-cache search there is nothing php5 (between testing and unstable, but that is beyond the point) |
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| 17:01.41 | azeem | jcuk: you tried that, and it failed |
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| 17:01.47 | asg | !info php5 sid |
| 17:01.47 | EdgEy | blah |
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| 17:01.49 | azeem | jcuk: well, you can try to upgrade to 'stable', perhaps |
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| 17:01.52 | dpkg | php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
| 17:01.56 | jcuk | not working |
| 17:01.56 | EdgEy | anyone here know where i can get libavformat.so |
| 17:01.56 | asg | kombi_: ^^^ |
| 17:01.58 | azeem | jcuk: but maybe it is too late now and your system is hosed |
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| 17:02.08 | stew | azeem: why is his system hosed? |
| 17:02.12 | jcuk | azeem it all installed no problems last week |
| 17:02.18 | stew | jcuk: /msg dpkg force loopbreak |
| 17:02.18 | jcuk | i had to wipe it |
| 17:02.21 | asg | kombi_: so you must be using testing which doesn't have it. |
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| 17:02.40 | ptlis | Any ideas what my problem is caused by? |
| 17:02.41 | stew | jcuk: what version does "dpkg -l libc6" say you have |
| 17:02.44 | kombi_ | asg: I guess I am, do I alter my sources list in some way to get it? |
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| 17:03.13 | asg | kombi_: well, mixing testing and sid can be dangerous. Why not use sarge + the backports mentioned in the factoid above? |
| 17:03.28 | jcuk | bugger it ill getlibc6 2.3.2.ds1-20 |
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| 17:03.33 | jcuk | oops |
| 17:03.34 | lancelot | stew did you read me? |
| 17:03.42 | jcuk | libc6 2.3.2.ds1-20 |
| 17:03.42 | stew | yes |
| 17:03.58 | kombi_ | asg: ahem.. how do I do it..? |
| 17:04.14 | smacnay | I am mounting a usb device with -t vfat -o user,rw but cannot write files to the device as a regular user. What have I not done to make this work. Device is visible and a user can cd to the device to read but not write (no permissions). |
| 17:04.18 | stew | jcuk: change your sources.list to point to sarge and apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
| 17:04.28 | asg | kombi_: reinstall sarge (not testing, not sid) ; /msg dpkg php5 or fully update your system to unstable and apt-get install php5 |
| 17:04.39 | stew | yikes |
| 17:05.17 | jcuk | so change testing to sarge? |
| 17:05.21 | azeem | yes |
| 17:05.28 | cahoot | smacnay try /msg dpkg rwvfat |
| 17:05.33 | smacnay | thanks |
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| 17:05.36 | kombi_ | asg: fully upgrade to unstable sounds good, how's that done? alter sources list and dist-upgrade? |
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| 17:05.48 | asg | kombi_: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 17:05.51 | stew | iyhtays... |
| 17:06.12 | jcuk | okay running apt-get update |
| 17:06.31 | asg | stew: the faq will hopefully disuade |
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| 17:07.51 | Elly | how do I acquire super cow powers? |
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| 17:08.07 | cahoot | eat grass |
| 17:08.09 | stew | Elly: /msg dpkg moo |
| 17:08.17 | asg | Elly: cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
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| 17:08.44 | lancelot | !tell laptops |
| 17:08.55 | asg | lancelot: /msg dpkg laptops |
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| 17:09.20 | kombi_ | asg: so unstable = sid, that took me years to comprehend.. I don't like this bit though: "Do not use SID unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess..." |
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| 17:09.36 | asg | kombi_: correct |
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| 17:09.51 | saloxin | i've seen ppl use aptitude for dowgrading to sarge after a little whim with sid. anyone remember the steps involved? |
| 17:09.52 | grendal_prime | abrotman, man i cant find thing on in any logfile about this portmap problem |
| 17:09.54 | asg | kombi_: look at the horrid bugs link for an example of sid fun |
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| 17:10.19 | kombi_ | asg: would it be easiest to hand compile php5 here? |
| 17:10.20 | asg | saloxin: /msg dpkg downgrade (possibly) |
| 17:10.40 | stew | saloxin: this is not possible |
| 17:11.16 | saloxin | asg: thanks not promising.. will rip out most parts andgrab them from sarge |
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| 17:11.31 | jaybuffet | so im trying to run openvpn.. but when i start it it says "failed to find GID for group nobody" .. any ideas ? |
| 17:11.36 | lancelot | is there any web site about debian on acer laptops? |
| 17:11.38 | sword_ | any mplayer users here? |
| 17:11.44 | sword_ | im having trouble compiling mplayer |
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| 17:11.59 | sword_ | because i need certain development files |
| 17:11.59 | sword_ | and they arent here apparantly |
| 17:12.01 | stew | sword_: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 17:12.56 | saloxin | sword_: search for the files at packages.debian.org |
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| 17:13.34 | xelam | ffs |
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| 17:13.45 | anarcat | [BaByFaCe] is a spammer |
| 17:13.50 | xelam | does this channel have no ops? |
| 17:14.16 | anarcat | 13:13 <[BaByFaCe]> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
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| 17:14.24 | azeem | xelam: it has ops |
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| 17:14.31 | saloxin | see /topic |
| 17:14.33 | anarcat | anyways, that's not the reason i'm here, obviously |
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| 17:14.44 | quatell | how can i empty the cron-cache? |
| 17:14.46 | Gnea | xelam: heh. |
| 17:14.46 | saloxin | er, it's gone from topic :-( |
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| 17:14.53 | sward | They're in disguise, sneaky buggers |
| 17:15.21 | quatell | i have frequently rewritten crontabs which are not read correctly, i guess as there is a cron-intern cache that saves rules |
| 17:15.25 | Ronin | anarcat: only one? heh |
| 17:15.31 | smacnay | ah yes, Windows does not do large files... like 11 Gig. |
| 17:15.33 | smacnay | hehe |
| 17:15.34 | Gnea | xelam: there is a system for dealing with them, just ignore it |
| 17:15.36 | saloxin | stew, asg: aptitude dist-upgrade with sarge lines in sources.list is at least doign an honest attempt :-) |
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| 17:15.38 | anarcat | Ronin, what? |
| 17:15.47 | anarcat | how can i change the number of tags queued in a scsi drive? |
| 17:15.48 | debian | how do i configure gtk fonts? |
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| 17:16.00 | Ronin | anarcat: only one bot msging you porn spam? |
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| 17:16.07 | Gnea | anarcat: create more partitions |
| 17:16.14 | anarcat | Ronin, well, ya :) |
| 17:16.22 | debian | how can i configure gtk fonts? sorry |
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| 17:17.08 | anarcat | hmmm, Gnea i think i was misunderstood |
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| 17:17.22 | anarcat | # cat /proc/scsi/aic79xx/1 |
| 17:17.27 | anarcat | Adaptec AIC79xx driver version: 1.3.10 |
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| 17:17.28 | Gnea | it's possible |
| 17:17.28 | anarcat | ... |
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| 17:17.32 | anarcat | Target 0 Negotiation Settings |
| 17:17.34 | anarcat | ... |
| 17:17.37 | Elly | how come apt-get can moo but not aptitude :( |
| 17:17.37 | anarcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.38 | anarcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.42 | anarcat | i want to change the 32 there |
| 17:17.48 | anarcat | i need to recompile the kernel or what? |
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| 17:17.53 | ke6isf | Elly: Because aptitude has to call apt to work. |
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| 17:17.57 | azeem | Elly: it can |
| 17:17.58 | Gnea | aptitude is inferior. |
| 17:18.00 | stew | Elly: aptitude -v moo ; and -vv and -vvv |
| 17:18.01 | smacnay | Is there a tool in Windows that will put together a file I 'split' in linux? |
| 17:18.15 | liam | Hello :-) |
| 17:18.26 | saloxin | anarcat: modinfo aic79xx - might give you the option |
| 17:18.27 | EdgEy | smacnay, you can use copy for that i think |
| 17:18.31 | Gnea | anarcat: i'm not sure... i usually just let it handle the tag queues on its own |
| 17:18.43 | Gnea | anarcat: did your scsi setup break? |
| 17:18.44 | Elly | hehehe :D |
| 17:18.48 | EdgEy | not sure of the syntax, it's something like copy -b blah+blah2 file |
| 17:18.49 | anarcat | Gnea, yes |
| 17:18.54 | anarcat | we're having tags starvation |
| 17:19.08 | Elly | you can keep adding 'v's |
| 17:19.09 | anarcat | saloxin, it's statically compiled... |
| 17:19.20 | Bhaal | Anyone here able to help me get a mysql 5.0.14 nightly built for a .deb? |
| 17:19.22 | ke6isf | Elly: Yes, but it doesn't actually moo. |
| 17:19.26 | anarcat | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< |
| 17:19.26 | anarcat | scsi1: Dumping Card State at program address 0x25 Mode 0x0 |
| 17:19.27 | anarcat | Card was paused |
| 17:19.28 | anarcat | ... |
| 17:19.31 | Elly | but it has an elephant being eaten by a snake |
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| 17:19.36 | Elly | I even know where that comes from |
| 17:19.37 | saloxin | anarcat: then you'll have to feed it options when the kernel boots i guess |
| 17:19.41 | ke6isf | !tell anarcat -about flood |
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| 17:19.53 | azeem | ke6isf: huh, that were four lines |
| 17:20.03 | anarcat | we were running on freebsd before |
| 17:20.07 | anarcat | and we had the same bug |
| 17:20.09 | anarcat | http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2003-December/000883.html |
| 17:20.12 | anarcat | was the workaround |
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| 17:20.17 | anarcat | /sbin/camcontrol tags da0 -N31 |
| 17:20.17 | ke6isf | !tell anarcat -about enter |
| 17:20.27 | ke6isf | azeem: I think it might be a timing thing. |
| 17:20.36 | azeem | eh? |
| 17:20.44 | liam | Is there any reason why ping and traceroute might resolve to different addresses to telnet when using the same hostname? |
| 17:20.54 | ke6isf | azeem: four lines within so long apart from each other constitutes a flood per debhelper or something. |
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| 17:21.00 | anarcat | ke6isf, thank you for correcting my so big impoliteness |
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| 17:21.14 | saloxin | anarcat: argh, i came across that controller as well, it's truly crap |
| 17:21.23 | azeem | ke6isf: anarcat obviously has enough clue that we do not have to baby-sit him/her |
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| 17:21.47 | anarcat | saloxin, really? |
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| 17:21.54 | anarcat | so it's the hardware the problem... that sucks |
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| 17:22.01 | Vyrus001 | how do i list all avalible graphix drivers ? |
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| 17:22.22 | anarcat | there's no such thing like camcontrl in gnu/linux? |
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| 17:22.47 | saloxin | anarcat: well, hostraid requires binary module, aic7xxx barfs and dies on it etc. trouble all the way |
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| 17:23.04 | lzr | which package contains lame? |
| 17:23.11 | asg | Vyrus001: ls /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ |
| 17:23.11 | anarcat | saloxin, no raid here, afaik |
| 17:23.15 | asg | lzr: /msg dpkg lame |
| 17:23.24 | Vyrus001 | asg thanx |
| 17:23.40 | lzr | thanks |
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| 17:23.59 | Bhaal | I need help getting started to build mysql 5.0.14 nightly for debian, anyone? |
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| 17:24.08 | asg | Vyrus001: also, you will be prompted for one when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 17:24.09 | abrotman | Bhaal; try it .. tell us what the errors are |
| 17:24.11 | michal` | hey |
| 17:24.21 | Bhaal | abrotman: I dont know where to start, thats what Im asking... |
| 17:24.26 | debian | I need help!!! How can i configure gtk fonts? |
| 17:24.27 | michal` | how big would be minimal usable debian nistalation (usable for qemu kernel testing) |
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| 17:24.43 | abrotman | Bhaal: you don't know how to compile software .. but you want to run ALPHA level software? |
| 17:24.45 | anarcat | debian, your question isn't clear enough |
| 17:24.45 | azeem | debian: are you running GNOME? |
| 17:24.55 | debian | fluxbox |
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| 17:24.57 | ke6isf | !iyhtays Bhaal |
| 17:24.58 | saloxin | michal`: heh define usable.. if you shortcut installer you get away with 80mb |
| 17:24.59 | dpkg | Bhaal: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 17:25.04 | anarcat | i've found this: CONFIG_AIC79XX_CMDS_PER_DEVICE=32 |
| 17:25.06 | asg | debian: switch in the gtk-theme-switch package |
| 17:25.06 | debian | azeem: fluxbox |
| 17:25.10 | stew | Bhaal: i would start by looking at how 5.0.13rc-1 was packaged |
| 17:25.11 | abrotman | HELP! .. i need to run Quark For Macintosh on Windows! |
| 17:25.17 | anarcat | saloxin, sounds like the workaround I was looking for |
| 17:25.21 | stew | anarcat: hit f1 |
| 17:25.22 | saloxin | michal`: standard minimal install is 200mb i think |
| 17:25.24 | stew | err |
| 17:25.28 | stew | anarcat: nm |
| 17:25.32 | anarcat | ok :) |
| 17:25.33 | Bhaal | stew: it was packaged? |
| 17:25.37 | Gnea | help! all of my computers just exploded! send me yours!! |
| 17:25.41 | stew | !info mysql-server-5.0 |
| 17:25.45 | anarcat | i'll try recompiling the kernel with that |
| 17:25.47 | dpkg | mysql-server-5.0: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.13rc-1 (sid), Packaged size: 16583 kB, Installed size: 37080 kB |
| 17:25.47 | michal` | saloxin: i see. do you mayby know how can i make minimal instalation from existing distro ? |
| 17:26.01 | abrotman | might even be in etch by now |
| 17:26.06 | stew | it is |
| 17:26.11 | Bhaal | abrotman: I do know how to compile... I was just hoping for assistance to compile to comply with the usual debian dependencies... Thats all... |
| 17:26.16 | michal` | dbootstrap i think |
| 17:26.18 | Bhaal | abrotman: So I could generate a .deb.. |
| 17:26.19 | Gnea | debian: gtkfontsel? |
| 17:26.26 | abrotman | Bhaal: oh .. well .. now yu don't have to :) |
| 17:26.26 | stew | Bhaal: you are running sarge? |
| 17:26.38 | Bhaal | stew: yeah |
| 17:26.40 | saloxin | michal`: er nope |
| 17:26.42 | Bhaal | Just updating now... |
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| 17:26.52 | stew | Bhaal: you can try to backport it /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 17:26.54 | abrotman | but sarge doesnt' have mysql5 .. nor should it |
| 17:27.01 | abrotman | nor should anyone ... |
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| 17:27.23 | Gnea | abrotman: your mom has mysql5. |
| 17:27.28 | Bhaal | abrotman: I need it for some asterisk billing/routing software... |
| 17:27.32 | Gnea | i saw her install it |
| 17:27.36 | asg | Gnea: is there a cream that can help her with that |
| 17:27.36 | stew | Gnea: his mom is unstable |
| 17:27.38 | elirips | hello. should the udev-package from sarge also work fine with kernel 2.6.9.11? (downloaded and compiled from kernel.org). |
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| 17:28.06 | ke6isf | !wayc elirips |
| 17:28.06 | Gnea | asg: i don't know, feminie hygeine products are not my specialty |
| 17:28.06 | dpkg | elirips: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 17:28.14 | Gnea | er, feminine |
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| 17:28.38 | abrotman | Gnea: my mom is smarter than that and knows better than to use mysql |
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| 17:28.46 | elirips | ke6isf: because at the time i compiled 2.6.11.9 there was no 2.6.11 in sarge, nor in sid. |
| 17:28.51 | michal` | saloxin: so how ? ;p |
| 17:29.04 | azeem | elirips: oh, 2.6.11.9, not 2.6.9.11 |
| 17:29.19 | Gnea | abrotman: that's not what she said last night |
| 17:29.21 | azeem | elirips: udev might require 2.6.12, not sure |
| 17:29.26 | elirips | azeem: uh, sorry, i misstyped. |
| 17:29.33 | elirips | azeem: 2.6.11.9 |
| 17:29.41 | abrotman | Gnea: she said you perform better than mysql :) |
| 17:29.41 | Bhaal | Your all a bunch of momma bickering old hags! :) |
| 17:29.44 | stew | azeem: not udev in sarge |
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| 17:29.48 | azeem | stew: ok |
| 17:29.49 | elirips | hm, i'll just give it a try... let's see whats going on. |
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| 17:29.53 | Gnea | abrotman: damn straight :) |
| 17:29.58 | azeem | stew: eh, d'oh :) |
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| 17:30.08 | abrotman | Gnea: selects are fast .. inserts are slow |
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| 17:30.20 | azeem | another one of those "sarge is not testing anymore" bugs |
| 17:30.24 | Gnea | abrotman: as they should be |
| 17:30.36 | abrotman | Gnea: depends on your data |
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| 17:31.07 | Gnea | abrotman: it helps to keep a backup in round-robin formation |
| 17:31.08 | larsAIA | DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 - DHCPACK from 10.0.0.1 - SIOCADDRT: No route to host ..... How can it be that my eth1 can get a ip from 10.0.0.1 /the router/ but cant get any real router contact to it? If i do route add default gw 10.0.0.1 i just get: No route to host other machines on the network can use 10.0.0.1 as router just fine |
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| 17:31.23 | abrotman | Gnea: especially when primary nodes are prone to dying |
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| 17:31.37 | Gnea | abrotman: indeed |
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| 17:32.37 | Gnea | linuxg0d: nice hostname |
| 17:32.44 | smacnay | can one go into /var/log and remove the old backup logs? My var partition is now 100% full after running 'apt-get clean' |
| 17:32.55 | asg | smacnay: of course |
| 17:32.56 | cheal | is there a GUI for rsync in Debian? |
| 17:33.02 | debian | to Gnea & Bhaal & Asg: good... tanks.. i restart X now... |
| 17:33.26 | asg | smacnay: also, configure a more conservative logrotate setup or even move /var/log to another partition entirely. |
| 17:33.36 | stew | cheal: /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator :) |
| 17:33.41 | Gnea | cheal: nope |
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| 17:33.51 | cheal | stew: great :) |
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| 17:34.01 | asg | stew: people should know better than to ask such things |
| 17:34.13 | larsAIA | DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 - DHCPACK from 10.0.0.1 - SIOCADDRT: No route to host ..... How can it be that my eth1 can get a ip from 10.0.0.1 /the router/ but cant get any real router contact to it? If i do route add default gw 10.0.0.1 i just get: No route to host other machines on the network can use 10.0.0.1 as router just fine it doesnt make any sence at all. I tryd ifuping a static ip same result |
| 17:34.14 | cheal | hum this GUI is too familiar |
| 17:34.15 | Gnea | asg: that's why they're here |
| 17:34.21 | stew | !graphical |
| 17:34.21 | dpkg | what do you mean graphical? Do you mean graphical as opposed to tactile or olafactory? |
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| 17:34.34 | asg | !for x |
| 17:34.34 | dpkg | All real programs run in a tty. If you want a program "for X", then put "xterm -e" in front of it. E.g., mail reader for x = "xterm -e mutt". |
| 17:34.38 | Bhaal | Wow, I like being thanked for something I didnt help with :) |
| 17:34.47 | stew | Bhaal: thanks |
| 17:34.59 | asg | larsAIA: keep it in channel. Thanks |
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| 17:35.33 | larsAIA | asg: DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 - DHCPACK from 10.0.0.1 - SIOCADDRT: No route to host ..... How can it be that my eth1 can get a ip from 10.0.0.1 /the router/ but cant get any real router contact to it? If i do route add default gw 10.0.0.1 i just get: No route to host other machines on the network can use 10.0.0.1 as router just fine it doesnt make any sence at all. I tryd ifuping a static ip same result |
| 17:35.41 | asg | I saw it the first time |
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| 17:35.47 | larsAIA | sorry |
| 17:35.51 | mith | before I waste someone's time at the dc, the cramfs initrd patch made it in to 2.6.10 or didn't it? |
| 17:36.02 | Goofster | Hi folks, I'm doing a debian installation, and trying to install software raid. I got a small yet stupid question. I have two disks on which I want raid 1 mirroring, how do I set it up (especially active/spare disk nonsense) |
| 17:36.08 | E-bola | Does anybody run loop-aes? Im wondering how my system will re-act to the update loop-aes-utils package |
| 17:36.16 | asg | E-bola: check the bts |
| 17:36.30 | E-bola | sory, bts? |
| 17:36.35 | asg | !bts |
| 17:36.36 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 17:36.48 | E-bola | ok i will |
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| 17:38.40 | SSL | i'm installing debian (sarge 3.1), i have problem with keyboard, all was going fine, until the second steps ( setting root password\network...) \ error msg: USB.C : device not accepting new adresse (error = -110) | usb_control/bulk_msg : timeout , how to resolve this problem please |
| 17:38.49 | E-bola | hmmm doesnt say much |
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| 17:39.08 | E-bola | only talks about the issue that was solved, im wondering about if it effects running systems in anyway |
| 17:39.21 | stew | E-bola: no news is good news |
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| 17:39.26 | cmdKeen | how can user without su rights shudown/reboot PC ? |
| 17:39.27 | asg | E-bola: well, install it. If it breaks, get the previous version from snapshot.debian.net |
| 17:39.31 | asg | cmdKeen: sudo |
| 17:39.45 | Goofster | any help on raid? |
| 17:39.46 | cmdKeen | asg: without sudo |
| 17:39.47 | E-bola | asuming it doesnt kill some of my disks/partition/filesystems... |
| 17:39.47 | abrotman | cmdKeen: gdm allows you to |
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| 17:39.54 | Kuku | hi |
| 17:39.57 | asg | abrotman: it requires root password doesn't it? |
| 17:40.08 | SSL | cmdKeen config /etc/sudoers.conf |
| 17:40.09 | asg | cmdKeen: CTRL+ALT+DEL on console? |
| 17:40.18 | asg | cmdKeen: push the power button |
| 17:40.19 | Gnea | Goofster: i keep raid minimalized to hardware-only |
| 17:40.52 | Goofster | then I guess you can't help me out :) |
| 17:40.53 | asg | cmdKeen: there is one other way but I won't mention it |
| 17:40.55 | abrotman | asg: SecureSystemMenu = False |
| 17:40.56 | nkuttler | cmdKeen: no, gdm doesn't necessarily require the root password |
| 17:41.02 | Gnea | well you asked :) |
| 17:41.09 | asg | abrotman: ewwww |
| 17:41.12 | SSL | i'm installing debian (sarge 3.1), i have problem with keyboard, all was going fine, until the second steps ( setting root password\network...) \ error msg: USB.C : device not accepting new adresse (error = -110) | usb_control/bulk_msg : timeout , how to resolve this problem please |
| 17:41.35 | nkuttler | asg: that's ok as long as there's only shutdown in the menu |
| 17:42.03 | asg | nkuttler: maybe for a home user perhaps, it still rubs me the wrong way though. |
| 17:42.04 | cmdKeen | asg power button doesn't work for me;) ... well I wonder that way isn't the right one... |
| 17:42.15 | abrotman | asg: hey .. you asked :) |
| 17:42.19 | asg | abrotman: :) |
| 17:42.32 | abrotman | asg: it's nice for workstations actually .. |
| 17:42.50 | abrotman | asg: and unless you're totally anal .. the person can just ctrl-alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-del |
| 17:43.11 | asg | abrotman: I'm that anal. That cannot happen on my boxes. |
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| 17:43.57 | Gnea | ok, i have a really dumb question - is rpc.statd used for anything other than NFS these days? |
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| 17:44.23 | asg | Gnea: sfs and a few other filesystemy type services |
| 17:44.32 | stew | NIS |
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| 17:44.47 | telonir | "filesystemy" |
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| 17:44.54 | telonir | wierd word |
| 17:45.00 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 17:45.06 | asg | telonir: English allows one to do such things |
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| 17:45.31 | telonir | and it doesn hit you back with a sharp stick? |
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| 17:45.43 | cmdKeen | abrotman, nkuttler : I know about gdm, but I want comand ran in any WM without sudo that will do it... |
| 17:45.45 | asg | telonir: no |
| 17:45.46 | stew | no, its flexiblistic like that |
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| 17:45.50 | telonir | cewl |
| 17:45.52 | ke6isf | telonir: No, but you can get some grammar nazis to do that if they're feeling particularly pedantic. =^^= |
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| 17:46.13 | nkuttler | cmdKeen: why? and why no sudo? |
| 17:46.13 | ke6isf | stew: Mr. President? Is that you? |
| 17:46.18 | Gnea | it's cool or kewl, but never cewl :P |
| 17:46.18 | stew | qsl |
| 17:46.22 | asg | ke6isf: are they ever *not* pedantic? |
| 17:46.30 | telonir | since i got 2.6 debian sometimes freezes for me |
| 17:46.34 | Gnea | cuz then it'd be like sewl |
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| 17:46.47 | asg | !qotd12 |
| 17:46.47 | dpkg | <thomas_adam> mwilson is the only person I know that manages to use 'idiot' as a noun. :) * thomas_adam laughs <ricky_clarkson> thomas_adam: idiot *is* a noun. <mwilson> It IS a noun. <initech> thomas_adam: err .. it is a noun <Guerin> thomas_adam: how else does one use it? * thomas_adam laughs -- no no, nevermind. :) <Guerin> we have been trolled, fellow grammar nazis |
| 17:46.49 | ke6isf | asg: Well, if your not being careful with you're words, yes. =^_^= |
| 17:46.51 | Laibsch | I have just installed PostgreSQL on my Debian testing system. "psql -h localhost" fails for the user postgres where I think this should not be the case. I examined pg_hba.conf but found nothing (http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZqLKoa94.html). Am I missing anything Debian specific tweaks not in README.Debian? |
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| 17:47.03 | ke6isf | Yeesh, I had to struggle to type that last line. =O.o= |
| 17:47.11 | _jchaoul | i'm installing debian (sarge 3.1), i have problem with keyboard, all was going fine, until the second steps ( setting root password\network...) \ error msg: USB.C : device not accepting new adresse (error = -110) | usb_control/bulk_msg : timeout , how to resolve this problem please |
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| 17:47.27 | ke6isf | !tell _jchaoul -about repeat |
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| 17:47.59 | cmdKeen | nkuttler: well I am so *** i didn't know about sudoers, so I had to write my user pass each time... I was just curious if it is possible... never mind. |
| 17:48.11 | telonir | gonna try FC4.. anyone here had any experience with FC? |
| 17:48.12 | smacnay | Seems my usb device was spewing verbose output to the /var/syslog and such. COmpletely swamped my /var partition. |
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| 17:48.32 | ke6isf | telonir: In #debian? Surely you jest. |
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| 17:48.54 | telonir | well. probably tried FC and ran away to debian :) |
| 17:49.08 | grendal_prime | hehehe...dude i just love the way you can fire up multiple instances of x |
| 17:49.12 | ke6isf | telonir: What I saw for FC was that it was like Redhat, but worse. |
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| 17:49.25 | larsAIA | DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 - DHCPACK from 10.0.0.1 - SIOCADDRT: No route to host ..... How can it be that my eth1 can get a ip from 10.0.0.1 /the router/ but cant get any real router contact to it? If i do route add default gw 10.0.0.1 i just get: No route to host other machines on the network can use 10.0.0.1 as router just fine it doesnt make any sence at all. I tryd ifuping a static ip same result |
| 17:49.34 | ke6isf | !tell larsAIA -about repeat |
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| 17:49.39 | telonir | grendal_prime : how? |
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| 17:50.20 | cmdKeen | ke6isf: worse ? why ? I tried FC3 although it's no match for debian I don't think it's SO bad.... |
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| 17:51.13 | lilo | that was odd |
| 17:51.23 | ke6isf | cmdKeen: Bad experience with redhat, and found that trying to set up fedora for services was... well, headache inducing, frankly. Then again, the guy who wanted it wanted to set up functions best served using virtual machines. |
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| 17:52.06 | abrotman | that was odd .. lilo just spoke in here |
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| 17:52.35 | Gnea | yet another flood of bots |
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| 17:52.54 | jcuk | UHM |
| 17:52.56 | Gnea | ok well i thought there was a process for them, perhaps people are just asleep |
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| 17:52.59 | abrotman | jcuk: you're not a bot! |
| 17:53.03 | jcuk | wth @ security.debian.org ><><><>< |
| 17:53.13 | Gnea | jcuk: yeah, it's been slow all day.. dunno wtf |
| 17:53.18 | jcuk | goddamn |
| 17:53.18 | abrotman | OMG BIS HM!!!! |
| 17:53.26 | jcuk | 5 hours remaining :( |
| 17:53.37 | Gnea | yeah i was getting like 500B/sec |
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| 17:53.42 | abrotman | it was fine this morning :) |
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| 17:53.44 | Gnea | *BYTES* per *SECOND* |
| 17:53.50 | cmdKeen | ke6isf: heh, noted;) |
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| 17:53.57 | jcuk | 5000b/s :( |
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| 17:54.01 | smacnay | How does one limit the amount of info usb devices send to log? |
| 17:54.03 | jcuk | l.a.m.e |
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| 17:54.21 | abrotman | it's perfectly fine here .. just like i was on dialup .. all over again |
| 17:54.29 | ke6isf | wow, security just updated since the firefox download from yesterday. |
| 17:54.34 | asg | smacnay: rewrite the driver most likely |
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| 17:54.46 | asg | smacnay: you could use syslog-ng to regex out some crap if you are so inclined. |
| 17:54.57 | smacnay | asg: hehe - thanks I will man that |
| 17:55.06 | telonir | which firefox? 1.0.x or deer park ? |
| 17:55.38 | abrotman | cmdKeen: why .. you mean that's not your monthly pay check ? |
| 17:55.40 | jcuk | is there another mirror i can use other than security.debian.org? |
| 17:55.58 | asg | jcuk: it's being worked on. Be patient. |
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| 17:57.34 | sorush20 | which open source calendar software can I use on xp.. ximian, evolution or similar |
| 17:58.05 | whaq | xp? |
| 17:58.07 | whaq | mozilla calendar, thunderbird |
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| 17:59.33 | PReDaCoN | hi |
| 17:59.39 | PReDaCoN | http://security.debian.org is down? |
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| 18:00.06 | sorush20 | mozilla calendar is not as comprehensive as evolution... |
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| 18:00.30 | telonir | why on xp? |
| 18:00.31 | nite613 | I have a funny problem with DNS tools like nslookup, dig, host, etc. If I type "dig google.com" it tells me "connection timed out". But if I do "dig @192.168.2.1 google.com" it comes back right away. 192.168.2.1 is listed as my only nameserver in resolv.conf. What gives? |
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| 18:05.44 | cantona | which package create /etc/ld.so.conf? |
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| 18:05.55 | Trajan | is it possible to get latest package with one debian stable ? |
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| 18:06.10 | cmdKeen | abrotman: well, if there is something really terrible in this world, it's dial up connection... btw in my country this monthly pay check is something... ehm... |
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| 18:06.29 | abrotman | cmdKeen: i lived on 56k for a long time |
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| 18:06.38 | stew | abrotman: this version of horde seems to suck |
| 18:06.39 | abrotman | cmdKeen: and that includes running debian/testing |
| 18:06.50 | abrotman | stew: it's a PAIN to configure .. but nice once it's running |
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| 18:07.30 | Trajan | nobody for me ? please |
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| 18:07.51 | stew | Trajan: do you have a security line in sources.list? |
| 18:07.54 | abrotman | stew: took me a few days .. but i have horde/imp/turba/hermes/whups/vacation running .. and seemingly well so far |
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| 18:08.03 | Trajan | yeah stew |
| 18:08.20 | stew | Trajan: then apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; will get you the latest pacakges for debian stable |
| 18:08.25 | chedabot | hi, if i download all twelve debian disks , does it install all of them or does it package select like the net installer? |
| 18:08.48 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:08.54 | abrotman | chedabot: it will just use the 14CDs for source instead of the internet |
| 18:08.56 | nvz | note also that a disk and a disc are different |
| 18:08.57 | Trajan | stew, ok i understand so lattest stable firefox is 1.04 |
| 18:08.59 | chedabot | what's wrong now? |
| 18:09.01 | abrotman | chedabot: which you can change |
| 18:09.05 | stew | chedabot: there are 14 disks, and there is no reason to download them unless you need to install onto a machine with no network access |
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| 18:09.11 | Gathond | chedabot: it does the same as the netinstaller, it will just use packages of the CD's instead of the internet |
| 18:09.14 | stew | Trajan: no 1.0.4-2sarge5 |
| 18:09.16 | cmdKeen | abrotman: you were downloading debian packages with dial up ? you have my deepest symathy... |
| 18:09.26 | chedabot | lol |
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| 18:09.28 | abrotman | cmdKeen: for years .. it was ok .. |
| 18:09.30 | stew | Trajan: which is really 1.0.6 with security patches from 1.0.7 |
| 18:09.34 | abrotman | cmdKeen: i'd still do it today |
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| 18:09.54 | Trajan | ah ok stew thanks |
| 18:10.02 | Wanderer | cronjob in the middle of the night "dselect update && apt-get -y -d dist-upgrade" |
| 18:10.04 | ircdevil | hmmm lousy connection to security today |
| 18:10.17 | ircdevil | Wanderer: bad idea |
| 18:10.40 | stew | ircdevil: why is that a bad idea? |
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| 18:10.57 | lamp_ | list |
| 18:11.01 | stew | !list |
| 18:11.01 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to stew@is.a.fucktard.com |
| 18:11.06 | ircdevil | stew: the update process is something you want to monitor closely. its not for automagic |
| 18:11.07 | chedabot | right, i mounted an ntfs drive into /mnt/1 but whenever i try to access it i get "you dont have permisson blah blah blah". how do i change it so all users can access it? ive edited fstab but i just copied the root drive line then changed its mount point, device, and type, and nothing else |
| 18:11.14 | ke6isf | !lart lamp_ |
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| 18:11.15 | stew | ircdevil: note the -d in his command line |
| 18:11.30 | ircdevil | download only. ok |
| 18:11.49 | lamp_ | ke6isf, lol |
| 18:11.52 | chedabot | what's so funny? |
| 18:12.07 | ircdevil | but then again. its should be pretty fast if you have a decent connection |
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| 18:12.43 | cbr | when i compile my own kernel and use module-assistant to make the nvidia kernel module for it, and reboot the machine the /dev/nvidia* device nodes arent created for some reason |
| 18:12.44 | cbr | why? |
| 18:12.47 | nvz | chedabot: create a group such as ntusers and add all users wanting access to that group then mount it with the option to be owned by that group |
| 18:13.05 | cbr | it works with a debian package kernel |
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| 18:13.21 | nvz | chedabot: man 8 adduser, man 8 mount |
| 18:13.28 | cmdKeen | /etc/fstab -> '/dev/hdxn /mnt/1 auto ro,user 0 0' ? |
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| 18:13.40 | Wanderer | ircdevil: the cron line is one I used when I only had a modem. Get up in the morning and re-run the dist-upgrade without the -d manually |
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| 18:13.51 | chedabot | i only have one user in a group called matt. what mount command should i use? so far i used mount -t NTFS /dev/hdb1 /mnt/1 |
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| 18:13.53 | ircdevil | Wanderer: then it makes sense |
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| 18:14.14 | nvz | chedabot: type id as matt |
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| 18:14.43 | cmdKeen | chedabot: edit fstab and add 'user' option ? |
| 18:14.43 | nvz | chedabot: add the options -o uid=foo,gid=bar where foo and bar are matts user and group ids then |
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| 18:14.54 | nvz | cmdKeen: that has nothing to do with it |
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| 18:15.10 | cmdKeen | nvz: user can mount it than, can't he ? |
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| 18:15.29 | nvz | cmdKeen: he isnt talking about mounting it, hes talking about having access rights to it after its mounted |
| 18:15.31 | stew | cmdKeen: yup, which isn't what he is asking for |
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| 18:15.46 | chedabot | i can mount ok |
| 18:15.50 | chedabot | its just giving permission |
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| 18:17.26 | chedabot | when you edit fstab do you have to log on again for changes to take effect? or restart? |
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| 18:17.53 | nvz | chedabot: nope |
| 18:17.57 | cmdKeen | chedabot: nothing like that |
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| 18:18.23 | chedabot | LOL, im gonna go invest in a debian book this weekend |
| 18:18.36 | nvz | whatever pulls your bandwagon |
| 18:18.40 | chedabot | lol |
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| 18:18.53 | cmdKeen | chedabot: good investition;) |
| 18:18.57 | stew | chedabot: if you edit fstab you have to remount but that's it |
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| 18:19.10 | nvz | !yinzersmite cmdKeen |
| 18:19.20 | ircdevil | there is debian book? hmmmm sure i guess :o) |
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| 18:19.26 | ircdevil | books even |
| 18:19.43 | chedabot | ok another question: can i use kde under root so that i dont have to mess about copying fstab, editing it in home, then using root terminal to copy it back? |
| 18:19.57 | nvz | of course. people would tend to write books about the greatest OS ever created |
| 18:20.05 | telonir | do su in xterm |
| 18:20.06 | ircdevil | chedabot: dont use X as root - _no_ kde |
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| 18:20.24 | nvz | chedabot: how about using konsole and doing a su and editing it from there |
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| 18:20.27 | telonir | run X as user. open xterm. do su |
| 18:20.38 | chedabot | is xterm same as konsole? |
| 18:20.45 | BusMaster | has anyone managed to run cinelerra on sarge? |
| 18:20.49 | stew | chedabot: close enough |
| 18:21.02 | chedabot | su gives total root access or just through terminal? |
| 18:21.03 | nvz | chedabot: they are both x-terminal-emulators but they are not at all the same or they would just be called the same |
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| 18:21.12 | nvz | chedabot: just in that terminal |
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| 18:21.38 | nvz | chedabot: then you would nano /etc/fstab or something |
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| 18:21.48 | chedabot | nano is a text editor? |
| 18:21.50 | chedabot | like vi? |
| 18:21.56 | ircdevil | heh |
| 18:21.56 | nvz | not at all like vi |
| 18:21.58 | asg | chedabot: haha |
| 18:22.00 | chedabot | what's the problem? |
| 18:22.01 | ke6isf | chedabot: Yes, and no, in that order. |
| 18:22.03 | ircdevil | chedabot: its an editor yes |
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| 18:22.07 | nvz | if you know how to use vi, just use vi |
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| 18:22.17 | ircdevil | s/vi/vim |
| 18:22.20 | chedabot | i got vi running, edited fstab then couldnt figure out how to save it |
| 18:22.23 | stew | chedabot: if you know vi, by all means use that, nano is a more newbie friendly editor |
| 18:22.30 | chedabot | :( |
| 18:22.31 | asg | chedabot: nano is basically 'My First Text Editor'; vi is almost sentient |
| 18:22.32 | ke6isf | !start an editor war |
| 18:22.33 | dpkg | xemacs users can't think straight |
| 18:22.36 | nvz | chedabot: <esc> :qw |
| 18:22.38 | ircdevil | chedabot: then use nano - learn vim later on |
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| 18:23.20 | nvz | I recommend mped for a decent modeless editor |
| 18:23.26 | chedabot | this would be so much easier if i had internet on my debian box |
| 18:23.34 | stew | chedabot: why dont you? |
| 18:23.35 | ircdevil | chedabot: sure |
| 18:23.36 | nvz | I for one don't like editors you need a fucking spell book to use |
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| 18:23.52 | ke6isf | ED IS THE STANDARD EDITOR. |
| 18:23.56 | chedabot | i cant use my wireless adaptor with debian |
| 18:24.01 | chedabot | wusb54g v4 |
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| 18:24.22 | ircdevil | chedabot: recommend: get wires |
| 18:24.31 | chedabot | i know |
| 18:24.32 | sly007 | /etc/init.d/netmount start fails with "mount: RPC: Program not registered", any idea of where the problem come from? |
| 18:24.41 | nvz | mped has some of the most important features like the emacs yank command and such.. but you dont need to be a fucking wizard to edit a simple file |
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| 18:24.43 | cureless | my editor is pen+paper |
| 18:24.48 | ircdevil | sly007: google for the err msg |
| 18:24.50 | cmdKeen | nvz: but it's impressive and effective when you memorize that spellbook;) |
| 18:25.10 | sly007 | ircdevil, didn't find out much |
| 18:25.12 | BusMaster | nvz, complexity is the price of power :) |
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| 18:25.36 | ircdevil | sly007: rpc - that is some arcane sun stuff? |
| 18:25.39 | ircdevil | !rpc |
| 18:25.39 | dpkg | somebody said rpc was remote procedure call, a protocol used for executing procedures on a (usually remote) server |
| 18:25.41 | nvz | I havent done any editing where I needed that crap. the yank line is the only macro I've ever used |
| 18:25.54 | chedabot | If i could get these things working: Wireless internet, NTFS drives: i would probably be able to work most things out for myself |
| 18:26.01 | cureless | nvz: spell for yank line is "yy" |
| 18:26.04 | nvz | and occationally I'll use a grep -v \# which I dont need a mode editor and a fucking spell book for |
| 18:26.46 | nvz | see that I just ctrl+y in my editor just like in emacs |
| 18:26.51 | sly007 | ircdevil, When I start samba, netmount doesn't fail any longer. How can this be possible? |
| 18:27.02 | nvz | if I were to learn an editor it would definatly be emacs, not vi |
| 18:27.14 | ircdevil | sly007: sorry, im not into samba |
| 18:27.19 | asg | sly007: find out what 'netmount' is actually mounting. If samba shares are involved, that would be indicative. |
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| 18:27.29 | nvz | I just havent had the need or time to learn it as of yet |
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| 18:27.35 | chedabot | hmm...i really wanna get debian running as my o/s so i can refuse to do my ICT database coursework cos i dont have M$acess |
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| 18:27.40 | sly007 | asg, that is what I'm trying to figure out, without results |
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| 18:28.05 | iostream | Why is security.d.o horribly slow? :/ |
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| 18:28.16 | ircdevil | nvz: i worked my way through the emacs tutorial. afterwards i was clueless. then i worked my way through the vim tutorial. afterwards i was powerful. |
| 18:28.21 | asg | iostream: same reason as last week. Be patient, it's being worked on. |
| 18:28.24 | cheal | chedabot: that's why debian exists! |
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| 18:28.28 | ircdevil | so the emacs tutorial sux |
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| 18:28.28 | chedabot | ircdevil: lol |
| 18:28.29 | nvz | the important question is who took "security.d.o is fucking slow" out of the /topic |
| 18:28.34 | telonir | nano rules |
| 18:28.36 | cheal | iostream: because there's some demand on it |
| 18:28.38 | chedabot | i only used vi cos ive used it before on my ipod :P |
| 18:28.53 | asg | nvz: TML iirc |
| 18:29.00 | telonir | on the ipod? |
| 18:29.01 | ralf | chedabot: vi on the ipod? |
| 18:29.04 | chedabot | yup |
| 18:29.06 | chedabot | ipod linux |
| 18:29.07 | cheal | vi only runs on clusters. use cat and echo on sane hardware |
| 18:29.08 | chedabot | w00t |
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| 18:29.18 | asg | !be ed |
| 18:29.18 | dpkg | ? |
| 18:29.27 | telonir | sane? |
| 18:29.41 | De_Mon_ | I use vi in windows |
| 18:29.45 | cheal | telonir: hardware that not only bill gate$ can buy |
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| 18:30.09 | asg | De_Mon_: :set fileformat=dos |
| 18:30.20 | chedabot | ipod linux is pretty pointless but not many people i know can play doom on their ipod :D |
| 18:30.27 | De_Mon_ | nick de_mon |
| 18:30.41 | BusMaster | chedabot, or tuxchess :) |
| 18:30.52 | chedabot | im terrible at chess |
| 18:30.56 | petemc | or any gameboy game.. |
| 18:31.02 | telonir | chedabot doom III? |
| 18:31.06 | chedabot | ROFL |
| 18:31.13 | chedabot | doom 1 or 2 |
| 18:31.19 | BusMaster | chedabot, it's not pointless...how many people can record 16 bit sound through the left earbud of their iPods ? :) |
| 18:31.33 | chedabot | 1g? |
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| 18:31.50 | BusMaster | chedabot, 3g |
| 18:31.57 | soapee01 | Can anyone help with a custom 2.6 kernel? Everytime I compile/reboot it hangs at "Pci: error while updating region" |
| 18:32.06 | chedabot | no people on 1g can press some buttons and get a voice recorder |
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| 18:32.29 | BusMaster | chedabot, ah. upgrade |
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| 18:33.07 | nvz | soapee01: thats off-topic and way too vague to be of any use to someone to help you. you havent stated which source tree, and more often than not the last message of a hung kernel is of little relevance |
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| 18:33.36 | nvz | even during a panic or an oops you need more than one line to know what happened |
| 18:33.43 | chedabot | hehe i have 2.6 kernel but i just downloaded a package |
| 18:33.44 | cp | how do i tell deb that my hwclock is set to localtime ? |
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| 18:34.09 | stew | cp: instead of UTC? edit /etc/default/rcS |
| 18:34.13 | asg | cp: /sbin/hwclock |
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| 18:34.15 | blastmanu_ | hi |
| 18:34.19 | chedabot | :) |
| 18:34.19 | chedabot | hi |
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| 18:34.37 | blastmanu_ | http://blastmanu.free.fr/upload/index.php |
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| 18:35.02 | stew | blastmanu_: do you have a question? or are you just spamming? |
| 18:35.04 | nvz | blastmanu_: looking for a k-line or just a ban? |
| 18:35.05 | soapee01 | nvz: Sorry. I'm trying to get 2.6.13-rc7 (need satasil stuff), no patches, on a dual xeon machine (tried spm p4 and 686). I can supply my .config if that'll help. I've never been able to successfully compile 2.6 and get it to run (Not sure how it's so different from 2.4). |
| 18:35.06 | chedabot | hey! |
| 18:35.10 | cp | thx |
| 18:35.11 | chedabot | hes advertising |
| 18:35.15 | blastmanu_ | can you enter on this site please ? |
| 18:35.24 | nvz | blastmanu_: how about fuck off? |
| 18:35.25 | Ronin | blastmanu_: why? |
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| 18:35.33 | chedabot | hm...fat lot of use that was. dont speak french |
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| 18:35.52 | blastmanu_ | nothing its good, sorry |
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| 18:35.56 | chedabot | what's wrong now? |
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| 18:36.43 | chedabot | in linux does it support directx c++ coding? |
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| 18:37.27 | nvz | soapee01: well aside from being completly different with completly rewritten module loader, many patches gone mainstream such as ACPI, ALSA, SE Linux..etc not really a whole lot aside from also the obvious version increment of .2 |
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| 18:38.09 | bsims | anyone else having problems with apt-reportbugs? |
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| 18:38.35 | caphuso | bsims: with what? |
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| 18:39.27 | nvz | soapee01: you really do serve yourself to seek kernel gurus to aide you in whatever problem you are having. problems with compiling upstream kernel code isnt really on-topic here. We have knowlageable people but you havent even really clearly defined a problem which will be a setback anywhere you go for help. |
| 18:39.28 | ircdevil | caphuso: with apt-reportbugs - are you deaf? |
| 18:39.30 | ircdevil | :o) |
| 18:39.30 | chedabot | good :) |
| 18:39.31 | chedabot | :P |
| 18:39.35 | bsims | apt-reportbugs it lists bugs before installing new packages |
| 18:39.41 | caphuso | no, that's apt-listbugs |
| 18:39.45 | chedabot | please? |
| 18:39.46 | bsims | Doh |
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| 18:39.54 | chedabot | lol |
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| 18:40.09 | caphuso | and there's a reportbug, without apt- prefix |
| 18:40.20 | chedabot | does anybody have a debian book? thats good and they would recommend for a linux n00b? |
| 18:40.22 | bsims | looks like a ruby problem from existing bugreports |
| 18:40.26 | GlenneMannen | anyone know a software except squid that can limit the bandwith for processes/programs |
| 18:40.30 | caphuso | bsims: well, what does apt-listbugs say when you upgrade apt-listbugs? :) |
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| 18:40.38 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 18:40.38 | chedabot | <all> hi solemnwarning |
| 18:40.41 | chedabot | hi |
| 18:40.45 | chedabot | lol |
| 18:40.50 | solemnwarning | lol |
| 18:40.53 | tech13 | shoot, it just stopped. What do i check when the cpu usage is at 99-100% but top only shows (sorted by CPU usage) stuff up to 2%? |
| 18:40.53 | chedabot | :)))) |
| 18:40.56 | ircdevil | chedabot: perhaps some reading on www.debian.org - and the channel faq? |
| 18:40.59 | chedabot | my stupid bot started talking |
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| 18:41.15 | solemnwarning | for apache2 dev kit should i install apache2-threaded-dev? |
| 18:41.18 | ircdevil | tech13: man top |
| 18:41.24 | nvz | tech13: get a rescue disk and wipe that fucker out and reinstall, cause you are fucking owned :P |
| 18:41.25 | bsims | caphuso: newest version |
| 18:41.36 | solemnwarning | apache2-dev isnt a valid package |
| 18:41.40 | nvz | tech13: oh and dont forget to run it as root, it may be hiding processes you dont own |
| 18:42.12 | stew | ahh |
| 18:42.15 | tech13 | nvz: i'm guessing it is more of running top as user. didn't think of that. It stopped when i hit stop on my streaming audio. |
| 18:42.24 | nvz | heh |
| 18:42.25 | stew | USAT20500396,0,45,N,44,16.wav |
| 18:42.29 | stew | ECHANN |
| 18:42.30 | solemnwarning | is apache2-threaded-dev the dev package for apache2? |
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| 18:42.49 | soapee01 | nvz: I understand what your saying; however I figured maybe there was some simple config option I might not be selecting properly (or maybe someone here had seen the error b4). I've never been able to get a 2.6 kernel I've compliled (on any system) to run, so I figured it's something dumb that I've overlooked. Do you happen to know of a good howto that shows what modules are good ones to pick for getting a running kernel? |
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| 18:42.59 | asg | solemnwarning: which threading model are you currently using? mpm, prefork, threaded? |
| 18:43.02 | chedabot | negative :) |
| 18:43.09 | solemnwarning | whatever is default with apache2 |
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| 18:43.32 | asg | solemnwarning: there isn't, you have to pick one of the threading models. |
| 18:43.34 | de_mon | netstat -nap is not giving me processes for all connections, what gives? They should say /python |
| 18:43.36 | ircdevil | soapee01: i think links to docs are in the chan faq |
| 18:43.46 | solemnwarning | asg: how can i find out what im using? |
| 18:43.48 | asg | solemnwarning: dpkg -l (see which you have. Install the -dev package for that.) |
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| 18:44.16 | joelburton | is there a way to force download a package using apt tools? i need to get the skype package, but have unmet dependencies. once i get the package, i can fix it so that it has the right dep list. i can't figure out how to force a download, tho--`apt-get -d -f install skype` won't work, and synaptic seems to have no option to get around the unmet dep to download something. |
| 18:44.18 | nvz | soapee01: when I compile I use screen and open dmesg or /var/log/dmesg in less, lspci, kernel documentation and make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot --config=menuconfig buildpackage all in separate windows and thats all the reference I need |
| 18:44.20 | chedabot | does debian include gcc (c++ compiler i think), and if it does can i copy custom libraries to compile for xbox? |
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| 18:44.31 | solemnwarning | i have apache2-mpm-prefork |
| 18:44.38 | solemnwarning | so i need apache2-mpm-prefork-dev? |
| 18:44.41 | asg | solemnwarning: then apache2-mpm-prefork-dev is the one |
| 18:44.46 | solemnwarning | k |
| 18:44.46 | bsims | joelburton: download it manually and read dpkg's manpage |
| 18:44.56 | nvz | soapee01: the lspci and dmesg of a running kernel tells you plenty about your hardware, and looking at the kernel docs for any modules you arent sure about usually clears it up |
| 18:45.08 | solemnwarning | E: Couldn't find package apache2-mpm-prefork-dev |
| 18:45.10 | solemnwarning | asg? |
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| 18:45.43 | asg | solemnwarning: try apache2-prefork-dev then (apt-cache search apache2 -dev) |
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| 18:46.03 | nvz | soapee01: I walk through every option in menuconfig carefully considering how to configure each one using the references at hand |
| 18:46.03 | caphuso | apt-cache search -- apache2 -dev |
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| 18:46.29 | asg | yeah, the '-' snuck in erroneously on me |
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| 18:46.57 | nvz | caphuso: does that -- aid in multiple keyword searching somehow? |
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| 18:47.09 | asg | nvz: prevents -options from being parsed. |
| 18:47.16 | caphuso | nvz: no, it aids with patterns that start with - |
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| 18:47.16 | nvz | ah |
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| 18:47.28 | caphuso | $ apt-cache search apache2 -dev |
| 18:47.28 | caphuso | E: Command line option 'd' [from -dev] is not known. |
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| 18:47.42 | elirips | hello. can anyone help me with partitioning an external harddisk, connected via usb? i can mount the harddisk, write and read to it, but if i start 'cdfisk /dev/hd_trekstor' it says: 'FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends after end-of-disk'. any ideas how i could parition that disk? |
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| 18:47.46 | chedabot | hi elirips |
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| 18:48.13 | sly007 | Any idea on this problem? depmod -e // depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.30/misc/svgalib_helper.o // depmod: DEVFS_MK_SYMLINK |
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| 18:48.30 | chedabot | i got that sort of error when compiling ndiswrapper |
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| 18:48.47 | nvz | the only idea I have is thats not a debian kernel |
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| 18:48.57 | soapee01 | nvz: thanks for the pointers. I'll go read some more. |
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| 18:49.22 | solemnwarning | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:49.25 | chedabot | please? |
| 18:49.27 | cio | Hi all. Is there reliable load-balancing technology for debian that works like MS's load balancing? i.e., both computers share a common IP address? |
| 18:49.27 | chedabot | lol |
| 18:49.29 | chedabot | hmm... maybe not |
| 18:49.30 | chedabot | do I know you cio? |
| 18:49.31 | solemnwarning | apxs isnt on apt :'( |
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| 18:49.39 | chedabot | cio: like clustering? |
| 18:49.50 | asg | solemnwarning: yes it is, it's called apxs2 |
| 18:49.52 | cio | Yea, but I don't need shared-scsi or anything. |
| 18:50.03 | daft | {standard input}: Assembler messages:{standard input}:796: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'.. when i compile a kernel even with the .config im currently using (sid) |
| 18:50.13 | solemnwarning | E: Couldn't find package apxs2 |
| 18:50.15 | chedabot | erm...i remember something that clusters |
| 18:50.17 | daft | is that a bug? |
| 18:50.18 | dondelelcaro | cio: usually they have different IP addresses, and you stick a machine in front of them to actually split out the requests. |
| 18:50.24 | chedabot | but cant remember what its called |
| 18:50.25 | asg | solemnwarning: dpkg -L apache-prefox-dev | grep apxs2 |
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| 18:50.37 | cio | dondel: That's what I'm trying to avoid - a single point of failure. |
| 18:51.03 | cio | Like the way MS load balancing works. They have individual IP's, but they share an IP as well. |
| 18:51.30 | dondelelcaro | cio: yes; you just have a machine that keeps track of whether or not the other machine is working, and if the other machine dies, it replaces the other's ip address. |
| 18:51.31 | sly007 | Any idea on this problem? depmod -e // depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.30/misc/svgalib_helper.o // depmod: DEVFS_MK_SYMLINK |
| 18:51.33 | chedabot | OpenMosix |
| 18:51.35 | chedabot | thats the one |
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| 18:51.42 | chedabot | dunno if it works with debian |
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| 18:51.58 | cio | Thanks - I'll check it out. |
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| 18:52.07 | dondelelcaro | (or, in better cases, you have the routing layer actually switch them over) |
| 18:52.33 | chedabot | how come you want to load balance? |
| 18:52.36 | chedabot | rendering? |
| 18:52.48 | cio | shit, brb |
| 18:52.49 | dondelelcaro | chedabot: in this case he's probably serving content |
| 18:52.51 | chedabot | msg me when your back, cio |
| 18:52.56 | chedabot | ahhh right |
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| 18:53.10 | chedabot | open mosix is for rendering and other stuff distribution |
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| 18:53.36 | chedabot | im going now , thanks for all you help guys |
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| 18:54.31 | sly007 | Any idea on this problem? depmod -e // depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.30/misc/svgalib_helper.o // depmod: DEVFS_MK_SYMLINK |
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| 18:58.34 | SnuS | what's that ? |
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| 19:01.10 | simonrvn | looks like something failed, or a kenel bug |
| 19:01.14 | simonrvn | kernel even |
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| 19:09.03 | elirips | hello people. i have some problems with udev: i have an external harddisk (usb) with three partitions on it. but if i plug the harddisk in udev only creates /dev/sda, but shouldn't i get something like sda1, sda2 and sda3 for the three partitions? |
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| 19:10.28 | simonrvn | whats with the fricking spam bots again? *sigh* |
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| 19:11.09 | thingfish | they do get annoying. |
| 19:11.26 | thingfish | I guess that's their purpose. |
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| 19:12.04 | simonrvn | elirips: udev is pretty crappy, there's ways to get it to wake the fuck up and see the devices, don't remember how though. udevstart or some dumb thing |
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| 19:13.10 | thingfish | it's in /etc/init.d, so couldn't you do /etc/init.d/udev start? |
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| 19:14.09 | thingfish | although I'd be surprised if udevd weren't already running. |
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| 19:14.22 | thingfish | I don't understand it either. |
| 19:14.34 | elirips | thingfish: udev is already running, if not i wouldn't have the /dev/sda file after pluging-in the device. |
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| 19:15.04 | thingfish | sorry, wasn't paying close enough attention. |
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| 19:16.03 | elirips | but also after calling udevstart (after the hd got pluged-in) i only got sda, seems like udev doesn't get it that i also got sda1, sda2 and sda3.. ah, damn.. there must be a way to solve that.. udev can't be so dumb :P |
| 19:16.04 | simonrvn | it is |
| 19:16.04 | simonrvn | :/ |
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| 19:16.45 | simonrvn | well, it's a combination of things, really. but it makes things look stupider than they are. like one of those mirrors |
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| 19:17.50 | elirips | if i would not use udev... could i then access the different partitions using /dev/sdaX? |
| 19:19.34 | simonrvn | sure, if they're there. you could always run MAKEDEV anyway ;) |
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| 19:20.21 | TiMiDo | !marillat |
| 19:20.21 | dpkg | marillat is probably an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
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| 19:31.15 | eeyore- | lots of leaves + joins |
| 19:31.24 | thingfish | hehe sorry, no, just having connection problems. |
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| 19:32.01 | eeyore- | so we're still getting spambots huh? obviously generated usernames |
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| 19:32.33 | jdhutchin1 | well, you have to be registered with services to pm people now |
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| 19:33.02 | eeyore- | yeah but how long before the code is modified to join and say something then leaves? |
| 19:33.08 | thingfish | do I do a lot of leaves and joins? Today has been busy...had to reboot to a new kernel, then my dialup connection died. |
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| 19:33.19 | thingfish | sorry, will keep it down or at least try to. |
| 19:33.20 | eeyore- | thingfish: no, not you. lots of others |
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| 19:33.24 | thingfish | oh |
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| 19:35.14 | ThePiratemaster | how many floppies do i mneed for a x86 floppy install for sarge? |
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| 19:35.30 | abrotman | ThePiratemaster: 3 |
| 19:35.33 | abrotman | at least |
| 19:35.39 | abrotman | well 2 if you're really lucky |
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| 19:35.44 | ThePiratemaster | for netinstall from floppies? |
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| 19:37.01 | abrotman | yes .. |
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| 19:37.31 | abrotman | but you would need boot/root/(cdrom/NIC) |
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| 19:37.42 | piap | need help to connect a linux client to a vpn checkpoint FW |
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| 19:38.49 | abrotman | no |
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| 19:39.07 | Rulzern_ | the msttcorefonts package won't install, it can't reach the SF servers |
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| 19:39.57 | ThePiratemaster | does a gnu/hurd system run everythnig a gnu/linmux system does? |
| 19:40.14 | abrotman | last i knew .. no |
| 19:40.19 | abrotman | !hurd |
| 19:40.19 | dpkg | hurd is probably a POSIX compatible collection of servers that run on the GNU Mach microkernel, it is the core of the GNU system, see http://hurd.gnu.org, or a HIRD of Unix-Replacing Daemons. http://ports.debian.org/ports/hurd for Debian GNU/Hurd or /join #hug |
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| 19:40.31 | abrotman | that's probably out of date |
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| 19:41.13 | azeem | abrotman: I updated it last week |
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| 19:41.22 | azeem | well, the factoid |
| 19:41.23 | abrotman | azeem: #hug is still right ? |
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| 19:41.27 | azeem | yeah |
| 19:41.36 | bady | hi |
| 19:41.36 | azeem | I actually added it, I think :) |
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| 19:41.52 | abrotman | hey .. guess what! |
| 19:41.56 | bady | I'm configuring my own kernel for the first time |
| 19:42.01 | abrotman | in 30 minutes .. the first redsox play off game!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 19:42.25 | abrotman | !comfort bady |
| 19:42.28 | dpkg | There, there, bady. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 19:42.40 | bady | and I don`t know exactly which options I need to make it boot which ones do I need?= |
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| 19:42.56 | bady | the actual problem is i got a state of the art sys |
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| 19:43.06 | bady | asus p5gd2 |
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| 19:43.13 | bady | with to much raid in it |
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| 19:43.25 | bady | thx =) |
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| 19:46.26 | bady | what about these? |
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| 19:48.10 | bady | ?? anyone here to help me? |
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| 19:51.11 | bady | do I acctually need that? |
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| 19:52.28 | pmitros | I'm trying to go oldstable->stable. It breaks removing gnome-session with "update-alternatives: --slave only allowed with --install" |
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| 19:52.43 | pmitros | If anyone's still here on this side of the netsplit, any clues about how to fix it? |
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| 19:53.07 | streuner | pmitros: just remove the package |
| 19:53.16 | streuner | pmitros: and install it later |
| 19:53.56 | pmitros | streuner: Can't. That's the error I get when I try to remove it (apt-get -f install, dpkg -r, dpkg --purge, etc. all give me that error) |
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| 19:54.50 | pmitros | Oh, goody. Netsplit fixed. People back. I'll ask again. |
| 19:55.08 | pmitros | I'm trying to go oldstable->stable. It breaks removing gnome-session with "update-alternatives: --slave only allowed with --install" Any clues about how to fix it? |
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| 19:55.15 | JaneLame | netsplits? is this DALnet?! |
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| 19:55.27 | streuner | pmitros: ok, look iinto /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.* |
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| 19:55.59 | streuner | pmitros: the script doesn't work there, so just find the right script and remove it or edit it |
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| 19:56.14 | pmitros | streuner: Looking and fixing... |
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| 19:58.38 | pmitros | The offending line seems to be "update-alternatives --remove x-session-manager /usr/bin/gnome-session --slave /usr/share/man/man1/x-session-manager.1.gz" Time to man update-alternatives and see how to fix it... |
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| 19:58.51 | RolandU | hi all! Is there anything wrong with the security server? |
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| 19:59.21 | asuffield | lots of things |
| 19:59.33 | pmitros | rolandu: It's slow as all molases. I've been using debian.csail.mit.edu/security |
| 19:59.37 | EdgEy | security server isn't very secure |
| 19:59.48 | tuv | how easy it is to run hurd? and will i feel any differences? |
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| 20:00.01 | yff | hi |
| 20:00.11 | asuffield | tuv: yeah, you'll notice that half your applications don't work, the system runs vastly slower, and crashes a lot |
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| 20:00.18 | pmitros | tuv: You may feel a slight tingling sensation in your nose. |
| 20:00.22 | yff | how do i mount and use a second slave harddisc... it is named hdc ? |
| 20:00.26 | yff | im newbie to debian |
| 20:01.05 | yff | anyone ? |
| 20:01.08 | pmitros | yff: You mount partitions on disks, not disks. So it'd be hdc1 or something similar. fdisk can tell you what partitions are. |
| 20:01.11 | tuv | pmitros: oh.. good to know.. i cannot stand any "nose" thing |
| 20:01.32 | pmitros | yff: Then: mkdir /mnt/extra; mount /dev/hdc8 /mnt/ |
| 20:01.42 | pmitros | er mount /dev/hdc8 /mnt/extra |
| 20:02.00 | pmitros | Where, in this case, you'd be mounting partition number 8. |
| 20:02.00 | EdgEy | -.- |
| 20:02.00 | pmitros | Doh. |
| 20:02.00 | yff | pmitros : it a old slave which i just need to take backup from |
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| 20:02.07 | EdgEy | wow |
| 20:02.11 | EdgEy | that was a short split |
| 20:03.03 | Tortel | yep |
| 20:03.08 | Tortel | they are fun! |
| 20:03.09 | Tortel | :D |
| 20:03.31 | Sepho | somebody uses apache2?? |
| 20:03.35 | yff | and how do i assign a directory to that one... if i want to make it eg. /new/ ? |
| 20:03.41 | Torres | Wow... security.debian.org is so slow! |
| 20:03.44 | EdgEy | Sepho, quite a few people |
| 20:03.54 | usn_router | good nightmares |
| 20:03.54 | Sepho | hehe |
| 20:03.55 | Gnea | !somebody |
| 20:03.55 | dpkg | i guess somebody is a person , who has a body |
| 20:04.03 | Torres | security.debian.org can't work so bad! |
| 20:04.12 | EdgEy | Torres, STFU |
| 20:04.18 | Gnea | Torres: yes, we are aware of the problem. |
| 20:04.20 | EdgEy | omg lol |
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| 20:04.27 | Rulzern_ | the msttcorefonts package needs an update :p |
| 20:04.30 | Sepho | I've a problem, if I go to http://localhost automatic go to http://localhost/apache2-default and I want to change it |
| 20:04.32 | Gnea | EdgEy: ? |
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| 20:04.46 | EdgEy | Gnea, sorry heh |
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| 20:04.53 | Gnea | Sepho: just edit the files and dirs in your DocumentRoot |
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| 20:05.39 | Sepho | [Gnea] Documentroot is /var/ww |
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| 20:06.09 | Torres | should exist a security mirror? |
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| 20:06.19 | FeZtBruS | After running dist-upgrade on my Debian server, I cannot connect to ipopd with clear text passwords anymore, it gives: "Unknown AUTHORIZATION state |
| 20:06.22 | FeZtBruS | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.28 | NyteRukh | hello |
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| 20:06.58 | Gnea | Torres: should, but doesn't. |
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| 20:07.58 | joaeq | hi i have a problem with my dhco firewall all the info i can give is here http://pastebin.com/382902 plase if you can help me |
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| 20:08.33 | Torres | hunn I would like to keep security mirror... here in my university there is the debian brazilian mirror (ftp.br.debian.org) |
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| 20:09.00 | Torres | What should I do to do a mirror here in Brazil? |
| 20:09.28 | azeem | Torres: there are no mirrors of sec.d.o yet |
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| 20:09.38 | lococ | hi |
| 20:09.44 | azeem | (except sec.d.o, which is a mirror itself since today, AIUI) |
| 20:09.44 | Torres | I have 2 links 2.5Gbps and 2 links 155mbps with gblx |
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| 20:10.11 | azeem | Torres: wait for an announce about the sec.d.o (if there is any), perhaps they put out a call for mirrors |
| 20:10.17 | Torres | azeem, why? |
| 20:10.25 | azeem | s/sec.d.o/sec.d.o machine move/ |
| 20:10.29 | azeem | Torres: why what? |
| 20:10.38 | Evil_Lyra | Torres: you can mirror security by yourself |
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| 20:10.54 | bady | Hey guys which option should I take Preemption Model (Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)) ---> for a P4 640? |
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| 20:11.29 | brc_ | is something wrong with the security updates server? seems REALLY slow |
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| 20:11.45 | azeem | brc_: http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200510041726 |
| 20:11.49 | yff | pmistros : i have found the following info : |
| 20:12.11 | yff | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.20 | Torres | Evil_Lyra, I know... Do you have? |
| 20:12.22 | jlil | whast usb mount command? |
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| 20:12.28 | jlil | for usb key |
| 20:12.37 | yff | pmistros: and i have made a directory and tried to mount it but it doesnt work |
| 20:12.47 | Gnea | 13:12 -!- idle : 5 days 20 hours 7 mins 58 secs [signon: Wed Sep 28 17:04:31 2005] |
| 20:12.47 | Evil_Lyra | Torres: we usually do that when we do install fests |
| 20:12.52 | Gnea | ^^^ joey |
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| 20:13.26 | yff | how t...f do i mount a second drive... when linux is running ... the second drive is connected on the IDE cable ?? |
| 20:13.26 | Torres | I would like to mirror br.security.debian.org :) |
| 20:13.39 | yff | I tried pmistros explanation, it doesnt work :// |
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| 20:13.48 | yff | im newbie ;/ |
| 20:13.54 | azeem | Torres: as I said, current policy is that it is not getting mirrored |
| 20:14.01 | azeem | Torres: that might change soon though, dunno |
| 20:14.11 | yff | i know the partition /dev/hdc9 |
| 20:14.18 | yff | i need to mount that one |
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| 20:14.40 | yff | i have made a directory named extra and want to mount it there |
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| 20:14.48 | yff | i ran the following command : |
| 20:14.58 | yff | mount: mount point /extra does not exist |
| 20:14.58 | yff | unknown:/ekstra# mount /dev/hdc9 extra |
| 20:15.02 | Torres | azeem, how many space is necessary to mirror security? |
| 20:15.07 | magyar | is there any other mirrors for security updates besides security.debian.org? |
| 20:15.09 | igge | what can I do about this problem: zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.2.2-4.sarge.2) but 1:1.2.3-1 is to be installed |
| 20:15.18 | nkuttler | yff: the error is pretty obvious, isn't it? create the directory |
| 20:15.33 | azeem | Torres: dunno, not that much though, I think |
| 20:15.39 | azeem | Torres: much less than ftp.debian.org |
| 20:15.40 | yff | nkuttler : I already have done that... |
| 20:15.49 | yff | nkuttler : so what do you suggest next ? |
| 20:15.51 | Torres | azeem, :) ok |
| 20:15.59 | nkuttler | yff: the command you typed tries to mount it in the directory you are currently in |
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| 20:16.17 | azeem | magyar: ftp.de.debian.org is an unofficial mirror, AFAIK |
| 20:16.27 | nkuttler | yff: try absolute paths, mount /dev/foo /mnt/dir |
| 20:16.29 | yff | so if im in / and i want to mount it into /ekstra ? |
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| 20:16.53 | yff | i have used absolute path.... |
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| 20:17.16 | Torres | wow... finished! 5MB 20 minutes! |
| 20:17.18 | nkuttler | yff: not in what you typed above |
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| 20:18.22 | magyar | azeem, thanks, the main server is so frikin' slow its not even funny. 800b/s |
| 20:18.51 | azeem | magyar: http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200510041726 |
| 20:18.56 | azeem | it's being worked on |
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| 20:19.08 | azeem | actually, I think people hoped it would be much better by now :( |
| 20:19.21 | abrotman | azeem: did you actually read that ? |
| 20:19.30 | yff | thanks... nkuttler... found the error... spelling errors :/ |
| 20:19.31 | yff | SORRY |
| 20:19.33 | azeem | abrotman: yes |
| 20:19.44 | abrotman | azeem: where he says the actual usable bandwidth is less ? :) |
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| 20:19.46 | nkuttler | yff: no problem, in the future use tab completion for the dirs |
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| 20:20.41 | azeem | abrotman: yeah, well. I was just quoting it to point out there is progress/regressions/whatever |
| 20:21.25 | jlil | how do imount usb key? |
| 20:21.34 | abrotman | !usbstorage |
| 20:21.35 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 20:21.46 | abrotman | azeem: one step forward ..two steps back ;) |
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| 20:22.11 | magyar | abrotman, thats it i am moving back to XP |
| 20:22.13 | magyar | :) |
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| 20:22.26 | jlil | what do you mean load |
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| 20:22.34 | abrotman | magyar: right .. because windowsupdate never has a problem :) |
| 20:22.41 | magyar | eheheh |
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| 20:22.45 | abrotman | magyar: and you *paid* for windowsupdate :) |
| 20:23.11 | nkuttler | jlil: modprobe modulename |
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| 20:23.57 | jlil | nkuttler not found |
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| 20:24.25 | magyar | no more security updates.....huraaaay |
| 20:25.01 | nkuttler | !tell jlil about errors |
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| 20:26.29 | jlil | no such file or dierctory |
| 20:26.36 | nav5 | When I send an email from my windows machine with a text attachemnt to gmail and I download the email on my debian machine with thunderbird, the attachement shows up as "winmail.dat" and does not contain the text that I sent. Any idea why? |
| 20:26.40 | tarzeau | magyar: and no more gnome or kde? |
| 20:26.41 | jlil | when i typed modprobe |
| 20:27.00 | jlil | mundulename |
| 20:27.17 | tarzeau | nav5: when you save that file and say "file thefile" what do you get? |
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| 20:27.36 | nkuttler | jlil: do you have /sbin/modprobe? |
| 20:27.44 | nkuttler | omg... |
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| 20:27.59 | nav5 | tarzeau: you mean type "file winmail.dat" in debian terminal? |
| 20:28.05 | tarzeau | nav5: yes |
| 20:28.07 | nkuttler | jlil: modulename is no module... read what the bot told you before and load _those_ modules |
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| 20:28.19 | nav5 | tarzeau: let me try and see, brb |
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| 20:28.29 | nomed | hi all |
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| 20:29.07 | jlil | Usage: /sbin/modprobe [-v] [-V] [-C config-file] [-n] [-i] [-q] [-o <modname>] <modname> [parameters...] |
| 20:29.08 | jlil | /sbin/modprobe -r [-n] [-i] [-v] <modulename> ... |
| 20:29.08 | jlil | /sbin/modprobe -l -t <dirname> [ -a <modulename> ...] |
| 20:29.08 | jlil | debian:/home/josh# |
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| 20:29.28 | RolandU | I am searching for a good calendar-tool that's compatible with ical or vcal. Anyone know a good one? |
| 20:29.39 | nomed | it seems file managers nautilus and thunar can't find mime icons .. how can i fix this? |
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| 20:30.09 | azeem | nomed: update-mime-database maybe. I think there was something along those lines |
| 20:30.18 | azeem | RolandU: there is evolution for GNOME and kontact for KDE |
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| 20:30.34 | azeem | I believe they can both handle vcal |
| 20:30.39 | nomed | azeem, i tried it with no results |
| 20:30.45 | Lilldude | nkuttler waht now? |
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| 20:31.27 | Vamplegends | guys |
| 20:31.30 | nkuttler | Lilldude: ? |
| 20:31.30 | matt21 | joaeq |
| 20:31.40 | nav5 | tarzeau: correction, I get two files when I try to download using thunderbird. "winmail.dat" and "Part 1.3". Using the file command on winmail.dat it says Transport Encapsulation FormatNeutral |
| 20:32.03 | nav5 | and I don't know how to use the file command with "Part 1.3". It has a space in between |
| 20:32.05 | Lilldude | i got a list o things if i put here it kick me out cause of flood |
| 20:32.14 | Lilldude | can we go to flood room? |
| 20:32.23 | Vamplegends | I have a question...why do people prefer distros like Kanotix and Knoppix and mepis instead of getting debian ? |
| 20:32.27 | nkuttler | Lilldude: oh, you play the "i change my nick so that people can help me better" game? |
| 20:32.34 | nkuttler | Lilldude: man modprobe |
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| 20:32.53 | streuner | Vamplegends: ask them? How should we know? |
| 20:32.55 | tarzeau | nav5: file "Part 1.3" |
| 20:33.00 | Lilldude | nkuttler i did not my irc did that |
| 20:33.04 | nav5 | okay, letmme try |
| 20:33.06 | tarzeau | nav5: should work fine or without " but a \ before the space |
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| 20:33.27 | nav5 | tarzeau: it said ascii text |
| 20:33.28 | nkuttler | Lilldude: read the man page, load the modules you need, do what the bot told you before |
| 20:33.36 | Lilldude | ok |
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| 20:33.48 | tarzeau | nav5: can you try the file -i winmail.dat ? |
| 20:34.39 | nav5 | tarzeau: hey man I did "more winmail.dat" and I'm getting gibberish on my screen. can't get out using CTRL-Z..? |
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| 20:34.48 | Fox_1_ | does debian have modconf? |
| 20:34.52 | Fox_1_ | no |
| 20:34.56 | Fox_1_ | netconf i mean |
| 20:35.04 | tarzeau | nav5: press q, then type reset hit enter |
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| 20:36.07 | nav5 | tarzeau: "file -i winmail.dat" returns " .."application/ms-tnef" |
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| 20:36.39 | matth_ | Hi there |
| 20:36.43 | Lilldude | nkuttler thing wont mount grrr |
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| 20:36.51 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 20:37.01 | RolandU | azeem: I was looking for something more basic without email-client and all that stuff |
| 20:37.03 | matth_ | does anybody know if that's possible to check that a file is the original file from a certain package ? |
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| 20:37.10 | tarzeau | nav5: bingo |
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| 20:37.11 | Azar | o/t this is so funny: "All the other distros are soooo out of date." |
| 20:37.11 | Azar | "Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -09 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours." |
| 20:37.21 | tarzeau | nav5: apt-get install tnef |
| 20:37.37 | stew | Fox_1_: no but it has etherconf |
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| 20:37.42 | azeem | RolandU: gnomecal from GNOME-1's gnome-pim perhaps |
| 20:37.44 | nav5 | tarzeau: okay, so I'm guessing its a missing package? |
| 20:38.15 | tarzeau | nav5: and type tnef winmail.dat |
| 20:38.23 | tarzeau | nav5: it's a tool to unrape your attachment |
| 20:38.31 | Fox_1_ | stew does it have GUI? |
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| 20:38.52 | stew | Fox_1_: etherconf is debconf based |
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| 20:39.06 | azeem | Fox_1_: there is a gnome-system-tools module for network configuration |
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| 20:39.44 | nav5 | tarzeau: it worked, thanks. So attachements are packaged in certain way and they need to be unpackaged? something like that? |
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| 20:44.27 | tarzeau | nav5: yes |
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| 20:44.54 | LabThug | what's the deal with security.debian.org? I'm trying to get some packages from there and it's SLOOW! |
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| 20:45.03 | LabThug | Is there a mirror I can use? |
| 20:45.12 | tarzeau | LabThug: be glad it works and is not just slow |
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| 20:45.24 | stew | !security mirror |
| 20:45.24 | dpkg | security mirror is probably http://www.debian.org/security/faq#mirror |
| 20:45.30 | LabThug | ty stew |
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| 20:48.34 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau hello |
| 20:48.34 | Fox_1_ | how can i add gre interface? |
| 20:48.34 | Fox_1_ | sss |
| 20:48.34 | Fox_1_ | ss |
| 20:48.34 | Fox_1_ | how can i add gre interface? |
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| 20:49.01 | tarzeau | why can't they wait for an answer before they leave? |
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| 20:50.08 | LabThug | heh, I'm getting "1337" B/s from security.debian.org |
| 20:50.27 | bnoji | I'm seeing most places that SATA hot swap isn't quite supported, but is that for auto-mounting/hotplug ? |
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| 20:50.47 | bnoji | I just want to be able to remove the drive without shutting down. |
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| 20:51.08 | tarzeau | LabThug: you could run your own mirror of it |
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| 20:51.49 | LabThug | tarzeau, I could, but it would probably take a few days to get the stuff I needed mirrored over ;-) |
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| 20:52.20 | stew | bnoji: afaik, hotplug of SATA is supported if your SATA controller supports it |
| 20:52.21 | tarzeau | LabThug: you could use someone elses mirror? |
| 20:52.31 | azeem | and compare md5sums |
| 20:52.35 | jeffwhet | Does anyone know where or how to write a print filter for lpr printing? |
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| 20:52.48 | LabThug | tarzeau, that's what I asked eariler and someone posted a link that said there were no offical mirrors |
| 20:52.59 | LabThug | but if you have a link, I'll follow it |
| 20:53.04 | tarzeau | LabThug: http://debian.ethz.ch/mirror/debian-security |
| 20:53.12 | bnoji | stew: From what I've read (as of Sep. 27th) libATA has no controller support yet. |
| 20:53.29 | smacnay | my /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log were deleted in a brainfart, how does one properly recreate them? |
| 20:53.34 | LabThug | tarzeau, ty |
| 20:53.41 | tarzeau | smacnay: touch /var/log/kern.log |
| 20:53.46 | smacnay | tarzeau: as root |
| 20:53.50 | smacnay | I assume |
| 20:53.52 | smacnay | thanks |
| 20:53.55 | bnoji | I'm wondering if the "hot swap" they are referring to is the automounting/unmounting of a drive when it is plugged in and out |
| 20:54.11 | OliverGTK | I have problem that XSANE cannot detected scanner in user mode, but in root detected, I added user to all groups and same thing |
| 20:54.31 | tarzeau | OliverGTK: you added user to all groups? |
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| 20:54.37 | OliverGTK | not |
| 20:54.39 | OliverGTK | not all |
| 20:54.52 | tarzeau | OliverGTK: which not? |
| 20:54.53 | OliverGTK | a mean all I think it should |
| 20:55.01 | LabThug | ahhh, lot's better |
| 20:55.06 | inc|freaky | under what user does start-stop-daemon try to start the server? start-stop-daemon: Unable to open pidfile `/var/run/cups/cupsd.pid' for writing: Permission denied (Permission denied) |
| 20:55.09 | tarzeau | OliverGTK: what scanner is that? usb? scsi? parallel? |
| 20:55.13 | OliverGTK | usb |
| 20:55.15 | tarzeau | OliverGTK: is it supported at all? |
| 20:55.19 | OliverGTK | yes |
| 20:55.23 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: root |
| 20:55.27 | OliverGTK | I sad that from root works ok |
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| 20:55.33 | inc|freaky | tarzeau: lol then it wouldnt say permission denied |
| 20:55.34 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: what says ls -la /var/run/cups/cupsd.pid |
| 20:55.39 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: yes it could |
| 20:55.41 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: LOL |
| 20:55.54 | inc|freaky | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2005-10-04 22:38 /var/run/cups/cupsd.pid |
| 20:55.55 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: you've ever heard of ro mounted filesystems? or chmod 0000 somefile? |
| 20:55.58 | inc|freaky | not if these permissions are set :p |
| 20:56.06 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: did i know the permissions before you told me? |
| 20:56.14 | inc|freaky | no you didnt |
| 20:56.19 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: then don't lol |
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| 20:56.31 | inc|freaky | ? |
| 20:56.36 | inc|freaky | now, i cant get cups running :\ |
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| 20:56.48 | tarzeau | inc|freaky: i hope your printer gets on fire |
| 20:56.55 | inc|freaky | why that? |
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| 20:57.19 | Tortel | you wont need CUPS then |
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| 20:57.46 | OliverGTK | But my digital usb cammera cannot be detected from user by GTKAM to |
| 20:57.51 | OliverGTK | only root |
| 20:57.59 | tarzeau | OliverGTK: configure sudo |
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| 20:58.53 | nkuttler | OliverGTK: read the gphoto2 documentation |
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| 20:59.34 | nkuttler | OliverGTK: or probably /usr/share/doc/gtkam even |
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| 21:01.01 | vyrus | how do i fix this... insmod: error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -1 Invalid module format |
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| 21:01.17 | vyrus | how do i fix this... insmod: error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -1 Invalid module format |
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| 21:02.16 | stew | vyrus: you need to compile the modules with the same gcc version as the kernel |
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| 21:02.43 | stew | vyrus: what does "cat /proc/version" say? |
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| 21:04.42 | Tortel | \o/ |
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| 21:04.51 | Tortel | \o/ |
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| 21:04.53 | Tortel | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.54 | Tortel | \o/ |
| 21:04.55 | Tortel | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.00 | abrotman | Tortel: Die |
| 21:05.04 | Tortel | :( |
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| 21:05.06 | Tortel | 'why? |
| 21:05.08 | vyrus | stew i did that lol |
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| 21:05.30 | nkuttler | Tortel: /msg dpkg flood |
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| 21:05.41 | Tortel | i know about flood |
| 21:05.43 | stew | vyrus: which lol did you do? |
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| 21:06.14 | vyrus | stew i compiled the mod using the same gcc version as my kernel... (3.3) and got the same err |
| 21:06.20 | gunshy234 | I upgraded to a 2.6 kernel and now gcc on a helloworld prog gives me " undefined reference to `__libc_stack_end@GLIBC_2.1'". upgrading libc or gcc doesn't fix it. Any ideas? |
| 21:06.32 | stew | vyrus: what does "cat /proc/version" say? |
| 21:06.43 | vyrus | stew Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 |
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| 21:06.55 | eeyore- | Tortel: rate-limiting your own typing to avoid flood is punishable by real-life ops |
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| 21:08.00 | eeyore- | gunshy234: kernel doesn't care about libc. did you actually update glibc and gcc? for real? really? |
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| 21:08.29 | vyrus | stew... just to keep myself honest... leme download gcc3.35 and recompile the mod just to be sure |
| 21:08.29 | jeffwhet | any one good with lpr print filters |
| 21:08.40 | gunshy234 | thought I did. gcc is version 4.0.2 20050821 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-6) |
| 21:08.41 | abrotman | vyrus: let you do what? |
| 21:08.58 | stew | vyrus: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 21:09.08 | vyrus | stew sarge |
| 21:09.12 | Tortel | im not rate limiting a flood |
| 21:09.13 | Tortel | :| |
| 21:09.18 | Tortel | im making art |
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| 21:09.24 | abrotman | you're being a tard :) |
| 21:09.24 | stew | what does gcc --version say? and "dpkg -l gcc-4.0" |
| 21:09.25 | Tortel | that NOONE seems to like |
| 21:09.29 | nkuttler | Tortel: #ascii-art then |
| 21:09.31 | gunshy234 | libc6 is 2.3.5-6 |
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| 21:09.47 | vyrus | stew 4.0.1-2 |
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| 21:09.56 | abrotman | nkuttler: you lie .. that exists ? |
| 21:10.00 | rxc | does anyone know how to change my keymap to dvorak in the virtual console? |
| 21:10.02 | gunshy234 | gcc --version:gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050821 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-6) |
| 21:10.04 | erisco | hello, I am currently using ubuntu and I tried to install today's updates. However after two updates regarding mozilla firefox failed to update, firefox will no longer work. I tried reinstalling it but still no luck. Please help, I am browserless :s |
| 21:10.06 | nkuttler | abrotman: as soon as he joins it |
| 21:10.11 | abrotman | erisco: #ubuntu |
| 21:10.19 | stew | vyrus: you are not on sarge then |
| 21:10.29 | abrotman | erisco: and galeon probably exists for ubuntu |
| 21:10.34 | abrotman | as does lynx/links |
| 21:10.38 | eeyore- | gunshy234: i don't know what gcc 4 is looking for. i don't use it personally, sorry |
| 21:10.40 | gunshy234 | dpkg -l gcc-4.0:ii gcc-4.0 4.0.1-6 The GNU C compiler |
| 21:10.43 | dpkg | ii gcc-4.0:ii gcc-4.0 4.0.1-6 The GNU C compiler 3.4-15 gunshy234's private gamp collection |
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| 21:10.58 | vyrus | stew ic |
| 21:11.14 | stew | vyrus: gcc-4.0 isn't available in sarge, and if its installed you probably used it to compile those modules |
| 21:11.15 | gunshy234 | so gcc 4.0 isn't the current compiler? |
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| 21:11.30 | stew | vyrus: what version does "dpkg -l libc6" report? |
| 21:11.52 | stew | gunshy234: it is on etch which appears to be what you and vyrus are running |
| 21:12.13 | gunshy234 | ok, how do I downgrade? |
| 21:12.15 | stew | gunshy234: actually i take that back you are running a etch/sid mix |
| 21:12.17 | vyrus | stew stew 2.3.5-6 |
| 21:12.19 | stew | gunshy234: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 21:12.25 | stew | vyrus: yes, that is etch aka testing |
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| 21:12.39 | vyrus | ic |
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| 21:12.50 | samuel | any news of gnome 2.12 for sid? |
| 21:12.57 | vyrus | stew so how do i get my module compiled ? |
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| 21:12.59 | stew | !gnome 2.12 |
| 21:12.59 | dpkg | from memory, gnome 2.12 is see http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.12-unstable-2005-09-13-19-26 |
| 21:13.00 | gunshy234 | don't know how I did that. I guess I'll do some reading |
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| 21:13.11 | gunshy234 | thanks stew |
| 21:13.29 | samuel | stew, thx |
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| 21:13.54 | stew | vyrus: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-386 ; then reboot ; then you will be running 2.6.12 compiled with gcc-4.0 |
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| 21:14.11 | vyrus | stew hehe so upgrade my kernel :P |
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| 21:14.45 | stew | vyrus: or you can stick with the old kenrnel and set CC and mabye HOSTCC env variables to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 |
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| 21:15.21 | vyrus | stew hehe nah i think it would be best to upgrade since this is a quite new install |
| 21:15.22 | vyrus | thanx |
| 21:15.22 | eeyore- | hmm, oggenc is screwing up for me. it distorts the music and all ... has anyone had oggenc mis-encode music like this? |
| 21:15.48 | eeyore- | let me try this on a sid box |
| 21:15.54 | smacnay | tarzeau: kern.log and syslog are owned by root:root or root:adm? |
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| 21:16.11 | tarzeau | smacnay: root:adm here |
| 21:16.15 | smacnay | thanks |
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| 21:18.46 | elraun | i ran into the gcc/kernel issue. i think i have it mostly back to normal now but somewhere along the way, i think i upgraded udev and now it's hooped. i am getting this when i reboot: "warning: .udevdb already exists on the old /dev!" |
| 21:19.10 | elraun | then it fails to mount the local file systems. |
| 21:19.48 | elraun | is there a way to make udev re-evaluate the filesystem to get it back on track? |
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| 21:20.31 | pablo_ | por favor derbian en español? |
| 21:20.36 | tarzeau | !es |
| 21:20.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:21.11 | candle | hello |
| 21:21.18 | askance1 | anybody know if there's a utility i can put on a boot disk to convert reiserfs to ext3? |
| 21:21.32 | tarzeau | askance1: no |
| 21:21.42 | smacnay | I think I need to disable my usb-storage verbose debugging in the kernel - it is swamping my /var partition |
| 21:21.47 | streuner | askance1: backup and restore |
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| 21:23.14 | eeyore- | smacnay: :-> if there's a more verbose debugging in the kernel that beats USB verbose logging, i haven't seen it yet |
| 21:23.27 | askance1 | hmm, was afraid of that -- how about the likelihood of successefully shrinking the reiserfs using resize_reiserfs, then shrinking the partition? |
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| 21:23.46 | smacnay | eeyore-: problems with it too? |
| 21:24.00 | eeyore- | smacnay: no, i disabled that option a long time ago |
| 21:24.02 | hramrach | why has debian no info pages? info grub gives another copy if the manpage. |
| 21:24.12 | eeyore- | askance1: why did you want to convert from reiserfs to ext3? |
| 21:24.14 | abrotman | that is the info page iirc |
| 21:24.16 | smacnay | eeyore-: can I pass a command in lilo.conf to stop that from working? |
| 21:24.22 | eeyore- | smacnay: don't think so |
| 21:24.34 | smacnay | eeyore-: darn, need to recompile some time soon. |
| 21:24.39 | abrotman | isn't it a syslog setting ?> |
| 21:24.39 | hramrach | which is quite useless if you want to learn something about grub |
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| 21:24.59 | hramrach | the same for parted |
| 21:25.10 | askance1 | eeyore: i'd like to shrink the partition that debian is installed on, create another partition and dualboot another distro |
| 21:25.23 | jdhutchin1 | hramrach, you have to install the doc packages separately |
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| 21:25.28 | jdhutchin1 | hramrach, try installing grub-doc |
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| 21:25.43 | eeyore- | askance1: backup + restore |
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| 21:26.05 | hramrach | jdhutchin1: ok, I will try when the upgrade finishes |
| 21:26.07 | eeyore- | suck it up and do it :-) |
| 21:26.08 | hramrach | thanks |
| 21:26.23 | stew | hramrach: grub has no info page because upstream doesn't provide one |
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| 21:26.38 | hramrach | stew: I already saw one |
| 21:26.48 | candle | how can I install abiword for Sarge please? |
| 21:26.55 | eeyore- | there is one (grub info page) in gentoo |
| 21:27.01 | askance1 | eeyore: 'k, might be just as easy to delete and reinstall |
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| 21:27.07 | stew | i'm looking here: http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/grub/grub/docs/ |
| 21:27.18 | askance1 | candle: aptitude install abiword? |
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| 21:27.43 | stew | eeyore-: is the gentoo one gfdl? |
| 21:27.52 | eeyore- | let's see ... |
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| 21:28.22 | eeyore- | stew: doesn't say, it just says it documents version 0.97 |
| 21:28.36 | OliverGTK | It looks that GTKAM and XSANE cannot access USB port from user, but from root can |
| 21:28.55 | cocozz | Is there any SID "netinst" ? |
| 21:29.13 | hramrach | maybe it is generated from something |
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| 21:29.20 | OliverGTK | It looks that GTKAM and XSANE cannot access USB port from user, but from root can. How to set that user can access ? |
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| 21:31.28 | stew | !dbugs 160337 |
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| 21:31.33 | dpkg | #160337:N[grub] grub man page says to type info grub, info grub gives manpage; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:33:01 UTC |
| 21:31.37 | stew | and the answer is, install grub-doc |
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| 21:31.50 | Psycho_Nux | Hi |
| 21:32.18 | sward | stew: I thought that was a given.. obviously not |
| 21:32.27 | Psycho_Nux | Is it normal than DVD-iso have a file size lower than 400 mo ? |
| 21:32.31 | Elly | hey guys |
| 21:32.37 | Elly | someone name an app for recovering files after a format? |
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| 21:32.41 | eeyore- | abrotman: it was good when HTML wasn't around :-) now it's archaic |
| 21:32.43 | Elly | (high-level format) |
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| 21:33.01 | candle | I am running Sarge. but how can I install newer versions of stuff that comes out? do I need to upgrade to Etch? |
| 21:33.18 | eeyore- | abrotman: if "info" itself could be rewritten to have sane keyboard interface i'm all for it. maybe "elinks for .info" perhaps? |
| 21:33.19 | OliverGTK | Is there any way to set permisio that user can use USB port ? |
| 21:33.40 | sward | eeyore-: You can view info pages in vim, with plugin |
| 21:33.46 | wouter | candle: you can download packages or use apt-pinning without setting to etch |
| 21:33.59 | Elly | anyone? |
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| 21:34.08 | sward | eeyore-: Key-bindings everyone (who likes vim) like |
| 21:34.12 | candle | wouter: whats apt-pinning? |
| 21:34.30 | candle | wouter: but sarge doesnt download new packagaes |
| 21:34.31 | grendal_prime | ok im really trying to get something to happen in a specific order but i cannot for the live off me figure out the rc0.d - rc6.d |
| 21:34.34 | eeyore- | sward: that's just another keybinding to replace the existing set :-) |
| 21:34.59 | Psycho_Nux | Is it normal than DVD-iso have a file size lower than 400 mo ? ???? |
| 21:35.01 | sward | They're nicer though :) |
| 21:35.19 | wouter | candle: do 'man apt_preferences' you will find answers |
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| 21:35.24 | saloxin | grendal_prime: boot is 1) rcS.d 2) rc2.d |
| 21:35.35 | sward | I don't always have one of those new-fangled mouse things available |
| 21:35.45 | candle | wouter: oki doki girlfriend |
| 21:35.46 | abrotman | eeyore-: i meant the actual content :) |
| 21:35.58 | grendal_prime | and rc2.d? |
| 21:36.03 | abrotman | eeyore-: i could care less about the controls to read it .. i'd like actual *usable* documentation |
| 21:36.06 | eeyore- | abrotman: well, that's different then :) shitty docs will always get written :) |
| 21:36.23 | grendal_prime | i mean rc3.d is what because well somewhere this is not happening in the order i want |
| 21:36.24 | wouter | candle: you can always install packages manually by downloading them and installing them with dpkg (but you have too sort the dependensies out yourselve) |
| 21:36.24 | abrotman | eeyore-: yeah .. but some of them have been shitty for *years* .. Decades? |
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| 21:36.34 | mark` | does the stock debian kernel come with framebuffer support? |
| 21:36.49 | grendal_prime | and i cant figer out for the life of me what script is initating the tun device |
| 21:36.49 | saloxin | grendal_prime: rc3.d is not used by default in debian. see /etc/inittab |
| 21:36.55 | stew | mark`: yes |
| 21:37.03 | mark` | stew: how do i change console resolution then? |
| 21:37.07 | abrotman | tacobe: hate what? |
| 21:37.08 | mark` | i can't reboot the box |
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| 21:37.31 | abrotman | !rc.d |
| 21:37.31 | dpkg | Debian is not DedRat. There is no /etc/rc.d/*. Everything you want is in /etc/*. try (on debian) 'man update-rc.d' |
| 21:37.33 | stew | mark`: without rebooting, i'm not sure |
| 21:37.37 | mark` | hmmmm damn't |
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| 21:37.53 | abrotman | right .. whatever |
| 21:37.55 | stew | !rc.d is also ask me about <red hat tools> |
| 21:37.55 | dpkg | okay, stew |
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| 21:38.05 | john_ | hello |
| 21:38.25 | stew | mark`: if there is a way, /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh might give you some clues |
| 21:38.28 | daos | hi all, I changed from direct broadband back to pppoe and I am now having heaps of probs |
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| 21:38.47 | daos | all my systems behind the linux bax are having routing probs |
| 21:38.53 | mark` | stew: i was thinking maybe fbset? |
| 21:39.10 | daos | I am just using pppoeconf to configure the pppoe connection, is there something better? |
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| 21:39.51 | daos | and also can anyone tell me why all my systesm behind my linux box have hundreds of routs to the internet? I have never seen that before |
| 21:39.52 | john_ | How do you rpms into debs |
| 21:39.56 | saloxin | mark`: yup - search for "fb" in /lib/modules |
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| 21:40.28 | mark` | saloxin: ya |
| 21:40.31 | manu | I get this error I get this error temporarily rejected RCPT failed to expand ACL string "${if and {{match{$local_part}{(.*)-bounces\+.": missing } at end of string inside "and{...}" condition |
| 21:40.33 | saloxin | john_: apt-get install alien |
| 21:40.33 | mark` | vesafb.o |
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| 21:40.56 | manu | all mails aregetting rejected |
| 21:40.59 | saloxin | mark`: i'm on radeonfb myself |
| 21:41.04 | mark` | hmm |
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| 21:41.07 | hramrach | mark`: but if you set a bad mode you may get in trouble. |
| 21:41.09 | mark` | yeah |
| 21:41.12 | mark` | thats what im thinking |
| 21:41.23 | mark` | perhaps its just better if i stick with the stock res |
| 21:41.34 | hramrach | mark`: and you probably cannot change modes on vesa |
| 21:41.39 | TwistedEmotions | Are there no freaking browsers for X except mozilla? |
| 21:41.42 | john_ | that simple huh |
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| 21:41.50 | hramrach | TwistedEmotions: firefox ;) |
| 21:41.53 | saloxin | TwistedEmotions: dillo! konqueror! |
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| 21:41.59 | mark` | links! |
| 21:42.01 | mark` | !!! |
| 21:42.01 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 21:42.05 | hramrach | skipstone, links |
| 21:42.07 | TwistedEmotions | hramrach: expect firefox too |
| 21:42.16 | mick_home | hi everyone |
| 21:42.19 | daos | and also, I can ping anything from my linux box but get "destination host unreachable" when trying to ping google, but I can browse to the site from the same system |
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| 21:42.25 | TwistedEmotions | dillo and konq... will try those |
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| 21:42.28 | saloxin | TwistedEmotions: galeon! epiphany! |
| 21:42.41 | TwistedEmotions | links - not for X |
| 21:42.41 | hramrach | that's gecko too |
| 21:42.59 | hramrach | yes, links can do text, fb, and X |
| 21:43.24 | TwistedEmotions | yeah well then they can all do X.. just open a-term and poof |
| 21:43.46 | tacobe | w3m > xxxlinks |
| 21:43.51 | hramrach | no, this one can talk to X |
| 21:43.51 | saloxin | links in fb blew my mind first time. it does nimages and mouse straight in framebuffer |
| 21:43.57 | mick_home | i'm setting up libapache2-libapache2-mod-proxy-html and i'm confused as hell on where to configure it (Apache2 seems like they screwed up with all those *_enabled/ and *_available/ |
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| 21:44.24 | mick_home | libapache2-mod-proxy-html* |
| 21:44.42 | mick_home | basically, all i want to do is set: ProxyHTMLURLMap |
| 21:45.21 | mick_home | i wonder if i put it in httpd.conf if it would just work (since i see they left one for backwards compatibility) |
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| 21:46.59 | daos | all my systems behind the linux bax are having routing probs |
| 21:47.01 | saloxin | mick_home: i wonder if you try you'd know ;-) |
| 21:47.17 | mick_home | i did try - seems like its a "no" |
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| 21:48.03 | mick_home | basically, i setup interchange and it is using my hostname (which isn't a FQDN) and all of my links look like: http://honeypot/.... |
| 21:48.12 | mick_home | i just want it to use my i.p. instead |
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| 21:48.26 | mick_home | so i put this in httpd.conf: |
| 21:48.31 | hramrach | where is uxterm in Debian? |
| 21:48.44 | mick_home | ProxyHTMLURLMap honeypot 192.168.x.x |
| 21:48.52 | mick_home | then i restarted apache2 |
| 21:48.53 | daos | can anyone help with pppoeconf please??? |
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| 21:49.16 | romulo | hi, to apply iptables rules, other than create the own rules, do i need to restart iptables or something? |
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| 21:49.45 | mick_home | romulo: no, you can use dynamic rules |
| 21:49.50 | mick_home | or whatever they are called |
| 21:49.51 | daos | romulo: no |
| 21:50.09 | romulo | mick_home, i just need to create them so |
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| 21:50.22 | bucky | romulo, maybe iptables -F for flush |
| 21:50.36 | romulo | bucky, that will reset the list of rules |
| 21:50.37 | romulo | no? |
| 21:50.41 | bucky | yep |
| 21:50.47 | mick_home | romulo: lets say you block everything on your server, but you want to go on irc..... iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6667 -j ACCEPT |
| 21:50.54 | bucky | iptabes -L to list |
| 21:50.55 | romulo | yeah i done it |
| 21:51.01 | mick_home | then you just do: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6667 -j DROP |
| 21:51.04 | mick_home | when your done |
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| 21:51.29 | mick_home | no need to restart iptables/networking/whatever |
| 21:51.41 | romulo | ah great |
| 21:52.06 | mick_home | i happen to use that a lot on my server ;-) |
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| 21:52.50 | mick_home | ah i'll try #apache then :-( |
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| 21:53.22 | grendal_prime | ok i think its the tun device that is getting initiated too late |
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| 21:53.37 | grendal_prime | but i dont see anything in rc2.d related to tun |
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| 21:54.16 | hramrach | How do I search for a file in packages that are not installed? |
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| 21:54.21 | [sr] | hi ppl |
| 21:54.23 | [sr] | sysdeps.h |
| 21:54.26 | [sr] | is in what library? |
| 21:54.35 | Psycho_Nux | do you where i can found the dvd iso ? |
| 21:54.38 | daos | can someone help me configure my pppoe conection? |
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| 21:54.52 | saloxin | grendal_prime: all these rc?.d/files are symlinks to /etc/init.d/files - grep there |
| 21:55.20 | saloxin | [sr]: search on packages.debian.org? |
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| 21:56.00 | TwistedEmotions | How do I COMPLETELY reinstall xorg? Firefox is giving me problems and I have a feeling it has nothing to do with firefox but install with x... already tried apt-get remove --purge xserver-common server-org x-windows-system-core |
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| 21:56.19 | saloxin | grendal_prime: put "tun" in /etc/modules - so it gets modprobed by /etc/init.d/modules orso - early in boot |
| 21:56.25 | TwistedEmotions | and reinstall but that didn't seem to help.. |
| 21:56.26 | hramrach | there's only a google search on pacakges.debian.org .. |
| 21:56.40 | [sr] | saloxin ya i did but nothing found |
| 21:56.48 | saloxin | TwistedEmotions: hah, i have same bug. using dillo for now and downgrading |
| 21:56.58 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: really? |
| 21:57.07 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: it opening/closing again? |
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| 21:57.43 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: I tohught it was only me and my settings got faquered up or something... |
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| 21:58.01 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: Downgrading firefox? I tried... didn't help |
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| 21:58.05 | romulo | i free the port but it continues closed |
| 21:58.06 | romulo | =( |
| 21:58.10 | saloxin | TwistedEmotions: every page that has something remotely crappy like javascript crashes browser |
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| 21:58.32 | hramrach | what problems with Firefox? |
| 21:58.39 | saloxin | i'm going back to sarge - and grabbing backports when i really need'em |
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| 21:58.55 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: It's not the same error as me... Mine just crashes immediately as boot. |
| 21:59.18 | saloxin | hramrach: random crashes - but also other x proggies do the same - -finger point at xorg |
| 21:59.31 | hramrach | did you try to move avay your profile? |
| 21:59.40 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: run it in terminal and make it crash please... tell me the error you get |
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| 22:00.02 | TwistedEmotions | The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. (Details: serial 1732 error_code 11 request_code 53 minor_code 0) |
| 22:00.06 | TwistedEmotions | That is what I get |
| 22:00.23 | solaris00 | Hi, sombody can tell me how to configure manually a printer hp dj 610c with cups?? I have the driver (ppd file) |
| 22:00.24 | hramrach | I was running Xorg on NetBSD, ubuntu, cutomized Debian, and saw no crashes. |
| 22:00.34 | saloxin | TwistedEmotions: /j #flood |
| 22:00.43 | TwistedEmotions | It did it once on firefox now it keeps doing it |
| 22:00.46 | streuner | solaris00: /msg dpkg hpinkjet install |
| 22:00.47 | hramrach | So I would not point at Xorg :) |
| 22:00.53 | daos | well can someone tell me a channel where ppl might actually respond to my querey? |
| 22:00.53 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: I'm there |
| 22:00.55 | mick_home | [sr]: The purpose of that file is to define symbols that describe the system-dependent features linux uses. Namely, byte order, native integer types of various sizes, and safe pointer<->integer conversion. |
| 22:00.56 | grendal_prime | that didnt do it |
| 22:01.04 | OliverGTK | could somebody look this, please : http://pastebin.ca/24636 |
| 22:01.06 | solaris00 | thank you |
| 22:01.12 | romulo | anyone knows how to delete a rule on iptables? |
| 22:01.13 | grendal_prime | thanks saloxin it loaded early but portmapper still hangs |
| 22:01.18 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrr |
| 22:01.19 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: We have different error... |
| 22:01.36 | mick_home | hramrach: there was a search utility on d.o i forget where though :-/ |
| 22:01.40 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: your is fixable and well known... I dont think anyonr had heard of mine ;P |
| 22:01.44 | [sr] | mick_home well im just trying to compile qmail-filter |
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| 22:01.52 | wouter | romulo: iptables -D <table> <rulenr> |
| 22:02.03 | saloxin | TwistedEmotions: hm, i just want my browser back :-/ |
| 22:02.12 | grendal_prime | the thing that is driving me crazy is that i cant....find a log file that tells me where portmapper is hanging? |
| 22:02.13 | wouter | romulo: but RTFM too you too :-) |
| 22:02.27 | ubadu | iptables -d # |
| 22:02.37 | saloxin | grendal_prime: portmapper depends on nfs-common i think |
| 22:02.45 | TwistedEmotions | saloxin: ;( yeah no shit... miss it. |
| 22:02.47 | grendal_prime | thats in stalled |
| 22:02.54 | grendal_prime | it works...if i set it for noauto |
| 22:02.59 | romulo | wouter, thanks :D |
| 22:03.08 | grendal_prime | it boots..then i go in and youknow mount it manually |
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| 22:03.33 | grendal_prime | but if im not here to do that..and i cant get online to do it...they are screwed |
| 22:03.34 | coagen | anyone else having problems with the 1.0-7676 nvidia module? |
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| 22:03.55 | grendal_prime | nvidia....always = problem from what ive experienced |
| 22:04.07 | hramrach | hehe |
| 22:04.10 | coagen | grendal_prime: hehe |
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| 22:04.14 | grendal_prime | i think...Nvidia..means...pain in the ass driver for video |
| 22:04.25 | grendal_prime | in geek language that is |
| 22:04.29 | nvz | saloxin: even if there was a portmapper package it wouldnt depend on nfs-common |
| 22:04.33 | nvz | !depends portmap |
| 22:04.37 | hramrach | hehe. graphics drivers = problems |
| 22:04.38 | dpkg | portmap: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libwrap0, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0 |
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| 22:04.57 | hramrach | everywhere and all the time |
| 22:05.18 | grendal_prime | im sorry that was wrong...nvidia means..."you need to compeately tear apart your kernel to get this to work...so that you can do it again in a week when the newer kernel comes out" |
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| 22:05.29 | saloxin | nvz: not pkg - i was thinking start up dependency, but a glance at rc2.d proves me wrong |
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| 22:06.29 | grendal_prime | nvz i got an ofisite nfs mount that will not automount |
| 22:06.31 | eeyore- | oh horrible horrible me! my gentoo version of oggenc makes bad files :-p |
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| 22:06.53 | gravity | eeyore-: Wrong chan |
| 22:07.01 | hramrach | grendal_prime: with Matrox you get outdated driver in X, driver from mga that does not support current X, and a commercial X server that doesn't support KT600 AGP bridge. Very nice |
| 22:07.29 | nvz | grendal_prime: me too |
| 22:07.39 | nvz | grendal_prime: didnt know it was suppose to happen |
| 22:07.45 | eeyore- | hramrach: outdated driver in X? |
| 22:07.48 | nvz | would be pretty surprised if it did |
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| 22:08.04 | vibey | how do i cat *.log in ls -t order? |
| 22:08.11 | grendal_prime | eeyore..ya i know what you mean...my debian box i think is illegally downlaoding songs..i put a list of the ones i like in there ...and it keeps throwing them into a folder called Music..under one of the user accounts |
| 22:08.29 | caphuso | i'd start by running a "grep -r compctl" through all directories zsh stores files in |
| 22:08.30 | hramrach | yes, it's quite old, has bugs, and nobody fixes them. There is probably no longer any documenetation. |
| 22:08.35 | caphuso | damn |
| 22:08.43 | saloxin | vibey: man sort? |
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| 22:09.16 | grendal_prime | nv? |
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| 22:09.25 | wouter | vibey: cat `ls -t *.log` |
| 22:09.32 | grendal_prime | nvz, ? didnt know what was supposed to happen |
| 22:09.33 | hramrach | eeyore-: the driver is only for g* cards anyway. THey are themselves old. |
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| 22:10.04 | eeyore- | g* cards may be old but they still produce good quality output ... |
| 22:10.04 | vibey | radness wouter |
| 22:10.14 | solaris00 | streuner: que es /msg? |
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| 22:10.19 | DeCaoS | hi, i'm setting my horde with imp and it finish, but when i write www.xxx.com/horde/imp don't run imp comeback horde why? |
| 22:10.22 | hramrach | yes, but the drivers in X are buggy |
| 22:10.31 | eeyore- | hramrach: hasn't crashed for me |
| 22:10.31 | DeCaoS | I login twice |
| 22:10.32 | wouter | vibey: radness?? |
| 22:10.43 | nvz | grendal_prime: yeah I didn't know nfs shares were supposed to automount |
| 22:10.43 | vibey | wouter: yes.. thanks =- radness |
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| 22:10.51 | wouter | ah :-) |
| 22:10.58 | hramrach | But it does not display 3d properly and does not detect some monitors with ddc |
| 22:11.06 | eeyore- | hamrach: g400/g450, one of those. xorg |
| 22:11.20 | hramrach | yes, g400 with xOrg |
| 22:11.30 | hramrach | Xorg |
| 22:11.30 | eeyore- | hramrach: if you're looking to get 3d on the matrox, you're looking in the wrong place |
| 22:11.40 | grendal_prime | nvz, well i want mine to automout..but the hang up... |
| 22:11.48 | grendal_prime | the make the portmapper hang |
| 22:11.50 | grendal_prime | sucks ass |
| 22:12.24 | grendal_prime | its kinda complicated really |
| 22:12.40 | yoo | somebody know another soft than scantv to scan TV channels for stations ? |
| 22:12.44 | hramrach | I know it is not fast. But it could at least render the things that are supposed to be visible |
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| 22:13.01 | Elly | http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/debian.jpg |
| 22:13.01 | Elly | :D |
| 22:13.07 | daos | can someone help me configure my pppoe conection? |
| 22:13.12 | grendal_prime | i have openvpn connectiong to a remote machien..setting up a vpn, then i have nfs connect throught the vpn. it all works..if i do the nfs mount after its all up and running.. |
| 22:13.30 | hramrach | And it also fails with some 2D GL operations. Or it is incompatible with CrystalSpace. Who knows. |
| 22:13.36 | grendal_prime | but i cannot for the life of me figure out what...is starting too late |
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| 22:16.04 | hramrach | And I need xresprobe to read monitor info. The driver in X will not do it. |
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| 22:18.35 | wouter | Elly: funny |
| 22:18.56 | Elly | indeed |
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| 22:19.01 | Elly | the gentoo one and the slackware one are better |
| 22:19.01 | grendal_prime | is there someplace i can throw a script that executes...after all the boot up that basically runs a mount? |
| 22:19.28 | amahbod | i removed apache because it was messing up, and now i have broken dependencies and cant install any apache related things. apache-common requires apache-utils... how can i fix this? |
| 22:19.33 | wouter | Elly: nothing wrong with a little elitism |
| 22:19.44 | Trebaum | just a question.. but wouldn't you want to setup your mounts for the fstab to do it? |
| 22:19.58 | Elly | wouter: s/elitism/not-entirely-unjustified arrogance/ |
| 22:20.15 | pem3v78 | grendal_prime: why not put it inside /etc/init.d and link to rcX.d ? |
| 22:20.48 | StevenR | is 3ish KB/sec download rate normal from security.debian.org? |
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| 22:21.11 | Aim_Here | the latest debian security alert complains of overlodaing servers |
| 22:21.12 | mick_home | Elly: did you see the cover of v2 of "Advanced Programming In the UNIX Environment" |
| 22:21.24 | wouter | bye |
| 22:21.34 | Elly | no mick_home |
| 22:21.37 | sven15711 | hello, i need a little help with my cvs server |
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| 22:22.06 | pem3v78 | sven15711: just ask the q |
| 22:22.10 | peppo | easy way to query package database which package a certain file belongs to? |
| 22:22.23 | sven15711 | i install with apt-get install cvs the server |
| 22:22.44 | pem3v78 | peppo: use apt-file |
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| 22:23.25 | mick_home | Elly: http://www.awprofessional.com/bookstore/LargeCover.asp?isbn=0201433079 |
| 22:23.27 | mick_home | :-) |
| 22:23.34 | pem3v78 | sven15711: continue |
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| 22:23.45 | sven15711 | then i create cvs uder and group |
| 22:24.08 | sven15711 | make a cvs repro in /home/cvs with init |
| 22:24.11 | mick_home | that is one of the best development books period - i haven't read v2, but v1 is awesome |
| 22:24.15 | Ciltic- | i'm new debian user, i have problem to mount the cdrom |
| 22:24.15 | Elly | hehehehe, I've seen that cartoon before |
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| 22:24.28 | sven15711 | chown 700 /home/cvs/CVSROOT |
| 22:24.39 | mick_home | Ciltic-: apt-get install autofs |
| 22:24.39 | sven15711 | chown -R cvs.cvs /home/cvs |
| 22:25.00 | Ciltic- | can't apt-get something cdrom won't work :s |
| 22:25.13 | eeyore- | dick stevens rules |
| 22:25.16 | Ciltic- | i installed with the same cdrom and won't work |
| 22:25.21 | eeyore- | he's dead now isn't he? |
| 22:25.49 | Elly | You're one of those condescending unix computer users! |
| 22:25.52 | eeyore- | yeah, that should be "w. richard stevens ruled" |
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| 22:26.12 | sven15711 | now i want to connect from my windows client to my cvs root (remote ssh) :ext:sven@<IP>:/home/cvs and create a new module |
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| 22:26.30 | sven15711 | but get only cvs server: cannot open /home/cvs/CVSROOT/config: Permission denied |
| 22:26.30 | sven15711 | Cannot access /home/cvs/CVSROOT |
| 22:26.30 | sven15711 | Permission denied |
| 22:26.32 | mick_home | Ciltic-: are you istalling from CDROM? |
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| 22:26.43 | mick_home | apt-setup |
| 22:27.06 | mick_home | or apt-cdrom |
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| 22:27.34 | Ciltic- | mick_home yes i installed debian from the cdrom but when i load it i can't read the cdroom /media/cdrom i tryied mount /dev/cdrom /mnt but no way |
| 22:27.36 | mick_home | Ciltic-: there are a lot of docs online too btw (like google) |
| 22:27.40 | gpm | hey. i hate to be a douche, but where can i find out how far along packaging of gnome 2.12 for sid is? |
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| 22:28.02 | Ciltic- | mick_home ok i'm googling:p |
| 22:28.02 | sven15711 | i found no soultion on net, what i'd doing wrong |
| 22:28.27 | pem3v78 | sven15711: try this one http://ximbiot.com/cvs/manual/cvs-1.11.21/cvs.html |
| 22:29.33 | peppo | pem3v78, thanks! |
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| 22:29.38 | stew | gpm: /msg dpkg gnome 2.6.12 |
| 22:29.41 | stew | err |
| 22:29.41 | stew | no |
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| 22:29.46 | mick_home | Ciltic-: wouldn't it be: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom |
| 22:29.46 | stew | gnome 2.112 |
| 22:29.51 | sven15711 | i look there too. on http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/72 is the guide i try |
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| 22:30.05 | mick_home | Ciltic-: at any rate, have a look at: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Automount.html (it is rpm specific though) |
| 22:30.34 | pem3v78 | what does the cvs log file say about this ? |
| 22:31.04 | Ciltic- | mick_home thanks |
| 22:31.05 | stew | yay new mysql-server DSA, that should keep s.d.o nice and slow |
| 22:31.40 | gpm | stew: gnome 2.12? thanks. got it. cool |
| 22:31.45 | sven15711 | where is the cvs log? in syslog i didn't read anything about cvs |
| 22:32.24 | eeyore- | sven15711: there isn't one. depends on what you're looking for. what kind of "cvs log"? |
| 22:32.33 | thingfish | I want whatever stew is having. |
| 22:32.36 | eeyore- | sven15711: commit messages? |
| 22:32.50 | thingfish | bartender? |
| 22:33.00 | stew | !beer stew |
| 22:33.12 | eeyore- | !cheese stew |
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| 22:33.22 | eeyore- | what, no cheese for stew? |
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| 22:34.03 | pem3v78 | sven15711: where does it say to chmod the whole tree after repository init ? |
| 22:34.28 | sven15711 | i try again |
| 22:34.47 | sven15711 | pem3v78: nothing |
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| 22:35.16 | stew | !cmd: cheese (.*?) is $1: <action> slices a (piece|hunk|wedge) of (brie|stilton|jarlsberg|pierre robert) for $1 |
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| 22:35.57 | Ciltic- | mick_home autofs_4.1.4-7_i386.deb :) |
| 22:36.04 | pem3v78 | sven15711: have you tried with anonymous auth ? |
| 22:36.14 | sven15711 | no |
| 22:36.21 | pem3v78 | it seems the users you are using can't access the repository |
| 22:36.39 | sven15711 | it's a server only for my and my friend without any extra's |
| 22:37.04 | thingfish | !cheese me |
| 22:37.05 | dpkg | $1: <action> slices a piece of stilton for $1 |
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| 22:37.15 | thingfish | yum stilton |
| 22:37.19 | sven15711 | if a logged on the server with the user i can go into /home/cvs, but not into CVSROOT |
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| 22:37.45 | stew | !cheese thingfish |
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| 22:38.13 | zvn | how can I use network install to install sarge to a blank hard disk? I have always done it by downloading the vmlinuz and initrd.gz and just booting these and it has JUST WORKED<TM>. Howver, the new installer assumes that the ISO image is downloaded (I dont't want to do this) if booted this way? |
| 22:38.14 | funkyHat | anyone at all familiar with xmove? |
| 22:38.14 | thingfish | I wish. |
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| 22:38.33 | tarzeau | zvn: gnu.ethz.ch/d-i/ ? |
| 22:38.49 | sven15711 | pem3v78: the guide described: only root need rights to access CVSROOT-dir, is that wrong? |
| 22:38.53 | tarzeau | funkyHat: all heard it's cool, but nobody seems using it , heh |
| 22:39.04 | funkyHat | i'm working on using it, hehe |
| 22:39.07 | zvn | tarzeau, nah, the official installer-i386/current/images/hd-media |
| 22:39.08 | Xenguy | funkyHat: looks interesting, whatever it is :-) |
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| 22:39.17 | funkyHat | Xenguy, it's like screen for X |
| 22:39.25 | Xenguy | funkyHat: is it new? |
| 22:39.33 | tarzeau | Xenguy: nope |
| 22:39.35 | funkyHat | it's in sarge repos |
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| 22:39.41 | Xenguy | hrm, interesting |
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| 22:39.54 | funkyHat | i'm working on using it in conjunction with ssh... |
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| 22:40.05 | pem3v78 | sven15711: the users who runs cvs pserver process |
| 22:40.12 | funkyHat | so i can grab X clients that are already running on a remote machine |
| 22:40.14 | pem3v78 | user sorry |
| 22:40.19 | zvn | tarzeau, why on earth do I have to use gnu.ethz.ch/d-i?! why doesn't it JUST WORK as it used to any more |
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| 22:40.21 | Xenguy | funkyHat: I'd be interested to hear you thots when you get it up and running |
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| 22:40.34 | tarzeau | zvn: no idea, i just wanted to give you something else to try |
| 22:40.42 | funkyHat | i'll do some kind of guide to getting it working.... |
| 22:40.44 | zvn | tarzeau, thanks anyway |
| 22:40.49 | tarzeau | zvn: do you got any hardware that's not working? or an error msg? what doesn't work? |
| 22:41.11 | zvn | tarzeau, oh, sorry, it seems you didn't get my point |
| 22:41.12 | Xenguy | funkyHat: if it has been around for awhile, maybe someone has already written a guide |
| 22:41.14 | sven15711 | pem3v78: pserver i dont run, because i make a tunneld ssh connection to the server, so the cvs commands would be run on the server, or i'm wrong? |
| 22:41.23 | funkyHat | Xenguy, i've been looking for days |
| 22:41.36 | funkyHat | but my google skills have always been somewhat lacking :P |
| 22:41.45 | stew | !info xmove potato |
| 22:41.47 | dpkg | xmove: (A Pseudoserver for moving programs between displays.), section x11, is optional. Version: 2.0beta2-2 (potato), Packaged size: 102 kB, Installed size: 258 kB |
| 22:41.59 | stew | its been around a while |
| 22:42.02 | hramrach | since xterm can already display even Chinese I will stick to screen:) |
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| 22:42.12 | Xenguy | funkyHat: wow, been around since 1999 |
| 22:42.23 | funkyHat | yeah, and i haven't found anyone using it! |
| 22:42.32 | zvn | tarzeau, when I boot the installer-i386/current/images/hd-media kernel using the corresponding initrd, I don't get netinstall --- the installer starts looking for an ISO |
| 22:42.46 | tarzeau | zvn: strange |
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| 22:42.58 | zvn | tarzeau, everything else works |
| 22:43.04 | hramrach | the fact it's been around doesn't mean it's been working :) |
| 22:43.09 | zvn | ha, I got an idea! |
| 22:43.22 | funkyHat | hramrach, it must work for someone, it's version 2 :P |
| 22:43.25 | zvn | the machine has a tlan netcard that isn't automatically detected |
| 22:43.51 | zvn | apparently the installer thinks that there is no net connection present |
| 22:44.04 | zvn | this is extremely stupid |
| 22:44.07 | tarzeau | zvn: compaq ? |
| 22:44.10 | zvn | yeah |
| 22:44.18 | tarzeau | zvn: yeah i've had the problem with another nic |
| 22:44.28 | zvn | so, what should I do |
| 22:44.31 | tarzeau | zvn: well one was detected, but the one i wanted to use not, and thus i had to modprobe manually |
| 22:44.34 | hramrach | funkyHat: I guess you have to point your X apps to a proxy and then telll the proxy to connect to your display. |
| 22:44.36 | tarzeau | zvn: fix it :) |
| 22:44.42 | zvn | :D |
| 22:44.46 | zvn | well, how |
| 22:44.49 | tarzeau | zvn: gunzip initrd.gz, mount -o loop initrd /mnt |
| 22:44.57 | tarzeau | zvn: rape /mnt; unzip /mnt; gzip initrd |
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| 22:45.03 | zvn | ok, ok |
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| 22:46.02 | thingfish | that's hot |
| 22:46.09 | zvn | tarzeau, wtf is rape? |
| 22:46.21 | zvn | 8| |
| 22:46.37 | tarzeau | zvn: ask dict |
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| 22:46.46 | thingfish | man rape |
| 22:46.49 | Xenguy | funkyHat: I see what you mean; I don't think it's your google-fu ;-) |
| 22:46.55 | tarzeau | zvn: you don't wanna know what stuff i did, to make it what i want |
| 22:46.57 | funkyHat | hramrach, that's pretty much what xmove does. |
| 22:47.33 | funkyHat | Xenguy, heh, i always seem to be looking for things that actually aren't there |
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| 22:48.18 | Xenguy | funkyHat: some coder should take that project under hir wing (I get the impression it hasn't been actively developed for some time) |
| 22:48.39 | funkyHat | yeah |
| 22:48.41 | hramrach | funkyHat: it works then, doesn't it ? :) |
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| 22:49.01 | funkyHat | hramrach, what i mean is, that's what it's _supposed_ to do |
| 22:49.13 | funkyHat | i don't know, i haven't really tried a lot with it yet |
| 22:49.37 | funkyHat | the reason i was asking was i wanted to know if it was best to use ssh with X11 Forwarding (which works great on it's own) |
| 22:49.41 | funkyHat | or that other X forwarding thing |
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| 22:49.51 | funkyHat | the non SSH one, which i can't remember the name of |
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| 22:50.31 | Xenguy | funkyHat: vnc ? |
| 22:50.39 | respa | if I do a dist-upgrade, Xorg will be installed, right? what should I change after that? nothing? |
| 22:50.44 | respa | (sid) |
| 22:50.44 | funkyHat | everyone always suggests VNC |
| 22:50.46 | funkyHat | ! |
| 22:50.52 | funkyHat | no. |
| 22:50.53 | funkyHat | :P |
| 22:50.55 | gravity | respa: What do you mean "change"? |
| 22:51.01 | alcatras | Hi All! I've a problem with apt-get, do you can help me? (my English is very poor) |
| 22:51.03 | gravity | respa: Your whole system will change |
| 22:51.05 | dregan | DNS name server problem, the A record in a zone file eg: "ns1 A 192.168.1.100", is this a private address or public static ip address? |
| 22:51.06 | respa | gravity: config files, etc |
| 22:51.17 | Xenguy | funkyHat: there's freenx too - might be worth a look, depending on your needs |
| 22:51.26 | gravity | respa: Config files shouldn't change without letting you decide what to do |
| 22:51.27 | funkyHat | they both do a completely different thing to xmove |
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| 22:51.41 | respa | gravity: ok.. and u know what is the current gnome in sid? |
| 22:51.45 | Xenguy | funkyHat: completely? ;-) |
| 22:51.47 | hramrach | funkyHat: I guess ssh is ok, it just eats some cpu cycles when sending data. |
| 22:51.47 | stew | dregan: 192.168.x.x is private (not allowed to traverse the internet) |
| 22:51.50 | funkyHat | what i'm trying to do is forward a single X app onto my desktop |
| 22:51.57 | MrRei | dregan: 192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x is private adresses in my mind :) |
| 22:51.58 | gravity | respa: 2.10.2 |
| 22:51.58 | rainbow_ | hello |
| 22:51.59 | funkyHat | not a whole desktop |
| 22:51.59 | thingfish | respa: a lot more than xorg being installed will change. |
| 22:52.13 | Xenguy | hramrach: ssh rocks, the linux sky would fall without it ;-) |
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| 22:52.46 | shimano55 | Question, Is there a way that I could make a Laucher in GNOME to start-up apache???? |
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| 22:53.06 | candle | i love Debian :) yipee |
| 22:53.11 | dregan | stew: yes it is in the privat range, but should this address be a real static ip address eg: 202.164.198.116 ? |
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| 22:53.26 | thingfish | candle: then you're in the right place. |
| 22:53.52 | candle | thingfish: :) |
| 22:53.54 | thingfish | it's GNU/Linux as God intended it to be. |
| 22:54.00 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:54.00 | candle | Xenguy: thanks :) |
| 22:54.07 | Xenguy | and goddess too ;-) |
| 22:54.09 | stew | dregan: if that is a public view of your dns zone, then it should almost definately be a public ip, yes |
| 22:54.24 | swatikiss | is gnome or kde more gready with resources?? |
| 22:54.28 | eeyore- | dregan: if it's a private dns for a private domain, why not? |
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| 22:54.33 | stew | swatikiss: yeah, definately |
| 22:54.41 | alcatras | MSG #debian :Hi All! I've a problem with apt-get, do you can help me? (my English is very poor) |
| 22:54.43 | dregan | stew, thank you, I am having real trouble getting bind to work? |
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| 22:55.11 | eeyore- | dregan: are you saying there is some public dns somewhere that's set up with the NS record pointing to a private ip? who's the offender? |
| 22:55.28 | swatikiss | stew, what i meant was - which is more gready,.. or which uses more resources... |
| 22:55.29 | candle | I am using Sarge, but how can I install certain apps with their latest versions? |
| 22:55.37 | gravity | candle: Try backports.org |
| 22:55.47 | gravity | candle: If a backport exists, it'll save you a lot of pain |
| 22:55.49 | candle | gravity: ah yes, thanks :) brb |
| 22:55.51 | thingfish | candle: like which apps, sometimes it depends. |
| 22:55.58 | zvn | tarzeau, I have to compile the tlan module myself or are there modules available somewhere? |
| 22:55.59 | candle | gravity: yes |
| 22:56.09 | Xenguy | candle: or failing that, use checkconfig on tarballs |
| 22:56.13 | zvn | tarzeau, for the installer i mean |
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| 22:56.18 | candle | thingfish: like firefox for example |
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| 22:56.35 | candle | Xenguy: whats checkconfig? |
| 22:56.45 | dregan | eeyore: errr probably me - fixed now |
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| 22:56.57 | candle | with Sarge, are there updates realsed that are important to security? |
| 22:57.00 | thingfish | well there was just an update to firefox for sarge, candle - even though it's named 1.0.4 still, I'll bet it's actually 1.0.7. |
| 22:57.05 | stew | it looks like maybe backports.org is moving to debian-unofficial.org ? anyone know if that is correct? |
| 22:57.05 | shimano55 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:57.33 | Xenguy | candle: sorry I meant 'checkinstall' |
| 22:57.36 | candle | thingfish: how can I download this latest version of firefox? when I type apt-get install firefox, it says latest version |
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| 22:57.55 | Xenguy | candle: apt-cache show checkinstall |
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| 22:58.14 | candle | Xenguy: whats 'checkinstall' ? |
| 22:58.20 | candle | Xenguy: ok |
| 22:58.26 | thingfish | candle: do dpkg -s mozilla-firefox | grep Version |
| 22:58.28 | stew | candle: the latest version for sarge is 1.0.4-2sarge5 if you have that you are up to date. it was released on sunday and contains the security patches in 1.0.7 |
| 22:58.32 | neme | hola |
| 22:59.07 | thingfish | candle: what stew said. |
| 22:59.18 | candle | Xenguy: checkinstall didnt do anything |
| 22:59.23 | candle | thingfish: ok |
| 22:59.32 | candle | stew: no I dont have that |
| 22:59.34 | Xenguy | candle: ? |
| 22:59.43 | thingfish | stew, if you're as cute as you are knowledgeable, you must be a real honey. |
| 22:59.49 | Xenguy | !info checkinstall |
| 22:59.51 | dpkg | checkinstall: (installation tracker), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 23:00.01 | candle | thingfish: i typed your command, it said "Version: 1.0.7-0bpo1" |
| 23:00.03 | stew | thingfish: uh thanks?! :) |
| 23:00.06 | swatikiss | seriously guys - which uses more resources to run (which is quickest) kde or gnome on the same computer?? |
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| 23:00.15 | Xenguy | candle: hrm, maybe it is not in debian/stable |
| 23:00.19 | thingfish | candle: that's unexpected. |
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| 23:00.27 | candle | stew: how do I install firefox 1.0.4-2sarge5? |
| 23:00.28 | stew | bp = backports.org? |
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| 23:00.37 | stew | candle: do you have backports.org in your sources? |
| 23:00.50 | candle | stew: yes I added it cause someone told me to :P |
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| 23:01.00 | stew | candle: do you have security.debian.org in your sources? |
| 23:01.10 | candle | stew: yes |
| 23:01.53 | stew | candle: the two are probably very similar versions, if you want to force it to the security version, apt-get install mozilla-firefox=1.0.4-2sarge5 |
| 23:02.02 | candle | Xenguy: when I typed checkinstall, it said: make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
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| 23:02.18 | kbrooks | test |
| 23:02.19 | candle | stew: ok |
| 23:02.26 | kbrooks | Hey all. |
| 23:03.06 | emRick | what is the command to start a samba server? |
| 23:03.29 | panthera | stew: not correct. bpo and duo are completely separate. |
| 23:03.34 | abrotman | damn sox |
| 23:04.04 | thingfish | emRick: /etc/init.d/samba start |
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| 23:04.13 | abrotman | or restart |
| 23:04.15 | thingfish | emRick: if you have samba installed, that is. |
| 23:04.19 | thingfish | of course |
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| 23:06.43 | hramrach | it's funny, I got preconf loop on e2fsprogs and libc6 |
| 23:06.48 | abrotman | thingfish: noone wanted to see you naked anyways |
| 23:06.55 | thingfish | abrotman: :( |
| 23:06.58 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:07.01 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:07.23 | stew | panthera: how do you know! :) |
| 23:07.31 | panthera | stew: /whois panthera |
| 23:07.38 | stew | yeah, i caught that :) |
| 23:07.42 | emRick | thingfish: ok, smbd is started and I'm going off a minimal example in from samba-doc ... but when I try to mount, I get "2579: Connection to MIDEARTH failed" even though MIDEARTH is in smb.conf |
| 23:07.45 | stew | panthera: i was just guessing based on the similar look and the similar opening paragraph |
| 23:08.00 | stew | panthera: are you involved with bp.o? |
| 23:08.20 | thingfish | emRick: what are you trying to mount? |
| 23:08.37 | panthera | stew: as soon as bpo has its dak, I will upload my official packages there too. short answer: not yet but soon. |
| 23:08.47 | emRick | thingfish: mount -t smbfs //MIDEARTH/HOBBIT /export |
| 23:08.52 | abrotman | damn sox! |
| 23:09.09 | abrotman | people really give thier machiens stupid names like that ? |
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| 23:09.31 | stew | panthera: DAK? |
| 23:09.33 | emRick | abrotman: no, I'm just running off an example |
| 23:09.39 | abrotman | !dak |
| 23:09.39 | dpkg | dak (also known as The Girls) is the set of scripts that manage the debian archives, including the testing scripts. See http://cvs.debian.org/dak/?cvsroot=dak for the code. |
| 23:09.48 | stew | ahh right |
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| 23:09.52 | emRick | abrotman: ... is from the samba-doc HOWTO/tutorial |
| 23:09.56 | abrotman | stew: they mostly have girl names :) |
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| 23:10.05 | abrotman | emRick: i'd smack them too :) |
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| 23:10.14 | candle | is it a seccurity risk to install WINE? I wanted to install my MS Word |
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| 23:10.28 | abrotman | only if you enable word macros :) |
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| 23:10.35 | panthera | stew: debian-archite-kit, the whole harem which manages the archive, you know.. |
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| 23:10.38 | abrotman | oh ffs .. ban the bot |
| 23:10.47 | funkyHat | candle, it's a security issue to turn on your computer |
| 23:10.48 | stew | panthera: so then in the long run, how will the two differ from a users perspective? |
| 23:10.48 | funkyHat | ;) |
| 23:10.49 | hramrach | candle: not worse than installing any other buggy software |
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| 23:11.16 | panthera | stew: bpo: backports *official* debian packages from debian testing/unstable to debian stable |
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| 23:11.38 | candle | funkyHat: lol; |
| 23:11.39 | thingfish | emRick: are you sure you even need to go that route? Places>Network Servers pretty much always works for me. |
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| 23:11.59 | candle | is wine the best free emulator for Debian? |
| 23:12.03 | funkyHat | it's also a security issue to plug your computer in to a network, with it powered off |
| 23:12.03 | funkyHat | :/ |
| 23:12.05 | panthera | stew: duo: carries *unofficial* packages which can not be included within official debian, due to license restrictions (nda) or alleged patent-infrigement.. |
| 23:12.05 | funkyHat | :P |
| 23:12.08 | gravity | candle: For what? |
| 23:12.12 | panthera | stew: got it? |
| 23:12.23 | thingfish | and the directory shared on a windows box doesn't need to be defined in /etc/samba/smb.conf to access it. |
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| 23:12.26 | funkyHat | candle, wine is not an emulator |
| 23:12.27 | funkyHat | ;) |
| 23:12.29 | stew | panthera: crystal clear |
| 23:12.37 | panthera | stew: fine :) |
| 23:12.47 | dregan | I have pasted my zone file " http://rafb.net/paste/results/shE2be55.html " if anyone can take a look at and tell me if this should work - I cat'd the syslog and everything seemed ok |
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| 23:12.54 | candle | gravity: i need to install ms word. whats best way? |
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| 23:13.01 | gravity | candle: Yeah, that's your best bet |
| 23:13.03 | stew | panthera: in your eyes, is providing jdk .debs legal? what about in suns eyes? |
| 23:13.09 | panthera | stew: debian-unofficial.org/contribution.html has a few points which a package must fullfil before it will be uploaded |
| 23:13.15 | thingfish | candle: when one moves to linux, one tends to want to drop MS stuff. Wine just perpetuates your dependence on evil software. |
| 23:13.16 | zinx | stew: It's illegal. |
| 23:13.17 | gravity | candle: You could also feasibly run it in a copy of windows that you run inside of qemu, but it's likely very slow |
| 23:13.19 | candle | gravity: ok. nothing else thats better than wine? |
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| 23:13.31 | EdgEy | candle cedega is good for games |
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| 23:13.39 | abrotman | using a normal app like OO.o or abiword |
| 23:13.45 | asuffield | stew: Sun have been quite clear on this subject: no distribution of java in any form by anybody except them and people they *directly* approve |
| 23:13.54 | panthera | stew: sun says that you have to guarantee (to some certain extend) that the provided packages are bugfree (in the way that they are not functionally diffrent to the ones they provide), and |
| 23:13.55 | candle | thingfish: I have dropped all MS stuff. But sadly I have created some complex docs in MS word already that abiword or office wont load properly |
| 23:14.08 | thingfish | candle: you do realize that OO.o opens/reads/writes MS Word format files? |
| 23:14.08 | abrotman | panthera: do they know thier stuff isn't bug free? |
| 23:14.13 | thingfish | ah |
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| 23:14.21 | panthera | stew: that you are not allowed to distribute another jvm on that particular 'medium' where you offer their software |
| 23:14.28 | thingfish | I see, candle. |
| 23:14.33 | candle | thingfish: yes, but they dont read my complex graphic, etc word files |
| 23:14.34 | EdgEy | abrotman, it's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature |
| 23:14.35 | shimano55 | HELP, When I login to Debian (I use GDM), the splash screen stays up until I click on it, at which point it goes away. The last thing it says it's loading is Desktop-Settings |
| 23:14.39 | shimano55 | can someone help me fix it |
| 23:14.45 | abrotman | EdgEy: yeah yeah |
| 23:15.04 | panthera | abrotman: you guarantee that it has no more bugs that it has from upstream, the point is that you make no broken packages yourself. |
| 23:15.07 | candle | thingfish: I tried abiword and open-office, and they load the files, but the graphics, tables. etc are not formated properly |
| 23:16.04 | candle | thingfish: know what I mean? |
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| 23:16.04 | thingfish | candle: and you can't adjust them using oo.o? |
| 23:16.04 | abrotman | panthera: i know .. i was joking |
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| 23:16.04 | shimano55 | does anyone know???? |
| 23:16.04 | candle | thingfish: no way, too much work. they are too many pages and too many graphics! would take 5-6 hours |
| 23:16.05 | panthera | abrotman: ok.. too tired to understand jokes :) |
| 23:16.05 | tonix | hi guys, is there a way to confining users to their home with ssh like ftp daemons? thanks |
| 23:16.05 | thingfish | candle: if you need office, then maybe think about investing in crossover office. |
| 23:16.13 | shimano55 | ???????????????????????????????????????/ |
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| 23:16.15 | candle | thingfish: how much is crossoever office? |
| 23:16.16 | thingfish | s/office/MS office |
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| 23:16.34 | funkyHat | shimano55, that's not going to get you anywhere, if people knew, they would have answered |
| 23:16.36 | thingfish | candle: I don't know, but I doubt that it's that expensive. |
| 23:16.41 | candle | thingfish: but with wine, its free |
| 23:16.51 | shimano55 | funkyhat, hmm..ok |
| 23:16.52 | candle | thingfish: I already have ms office cd |
| 23:16.55 | emRick | thingfish: sounds like I want to go your route ... what is "Places>Network Servers"? |
| 23:17.04 | thingfish | candle: but with crossover office, it's simple (from what I hear) |
| 23:17.04 | shimano55 | in that case |
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| 23:17.16 | thingfish | emRick: sarge? |
| 23:17.18 | funkyHat | shimano55, (i was just referring to the last message, the ???s) |
| 23:17.22 | abrotman | shimano55: #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 23:17.40 | abrotman | or move your .gnome2 |
| 23:17.53 | shimano55 | Question, It wasn't doing this until I asked it to save the current set-up when I logged out. Is there a way I can purge that record??? |
| 23:17.59 | shimano55 | funkyHat, i know, thanks |
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| 23:18.02 | thingfish | emRick: if sarge, then just look for Network Servers in the main menu. |
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| 23:18.36 | abrotman | stew: they god damn lost! |
| 23:18.41 | abrotman | i blame gravity |
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| 23:18.49 | thingfish | oh you baseball boys |
| 23:18.52 | gravity | Fuck |
| 23:19.00 | abrotman | gravity: you brought the balls down! |
| 23:19.04 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:19.04 | TwistedEmotions | Does anyone know where the file is locate that controls memory for program window sizes and positioning stuff like that? |
| 23:19.10 | gravity | I have a tendency to do that |
| 23:19.12 | TwistedEmotions | for fluxbox ^^^? |
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| 23:19.30 | gravity | Holy fuck. 14-2!?!? |
| 23:19.33 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: might want to ask #fluxbox |
| 23:19.40 | abrotman | gravity: Clement got *shelled* |
| 23:19.47 | gravity | Yeah, I can tell |
| 23:19.48 | gravity | Man |
| 23:20.05 | abrotman | it was 6-0 after the third inning |
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| 23:20.06 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: trying.. theyr useless ;) but will ide till I find ;) |
| 23:20.14 | abrotman | what? |
| 23:20.28 | emRick | thingfish: I'm KDE in a (maybe lagging) sarge ... does this mean Settings>Network? |
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| 23:20.46 | aardvarq | Anyone know off the top of their head the kernel boot parameter to disable an ethernet adapter? |
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| 23:20.54 | LinuxKeitaro | just installed Debian and apt-get is pulling from the CDs instead of the net. I checked online and found instructions for woody, are there instructions for sarge? |
| 23:20.58 | Emmett_ | Hey, how do I turn off the console screensaver? I want to stop it from going black. |
| 23:21.07 | sward | TwistedEmotions: You mean wmctrl? I believe it's linked from the docs on the fluxbox site |
| 23:21.25 | stew | abrotman: only 2 less hits but 12 less runs i heard? |
| 23:21.25 | Emmett_ | LinuxKeitaro: You need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 23:21.34 | thingfish | emRick: oh sorry, I was being selfishly gnome-centric. I don't know what you'd do in KDE. |
| 23:21.35 | concept10 | how do I find out what DMA my CD-R/DVD rom supports? or should I look for what the chipset uspports? |
| 23:21.44 | concept10 | (DMA mode) |
| 23:21.45 | funkyHat | LinuxKeitaro, edit /etc/apt/sources.list. comment out the line for the cd |
| 23:21.46 | LinuxKeitaro | Emmet: I got that far, but where do I find the addresses/format? thanks |
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| 23:22.03 | emRick | thingfish: Places sounds pretty user-friendly |
| 23:22.09 | Emmett_ | LinuxKeitaro: You can google for 'sources.list' and find a bunch of good ones. I think apt-get.org is helpful, as well. |
| 23:22.14 | abrotman | stew: it was just ugly :) |
| 23:22.24 | Emmett_ | I'd give you mine, but I'm strictly console-mode at the moment. |
| 23:22.27 | LinuxKeitaro | thanks Emmet also funky hat |
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| 23:22.43 | joae | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:22.52 | Emmett_ | So, does anyone know how to turn off the console screensaver in Debian? |
| 23:23.00 | Emmett_ | It's got to be something simple. |
| 23:23.07 | abrotman | Emmett_: you ahve a funky hat ? |
| 23:23.24 | Emmett_ | Not that I know of. I've got no clue what that guy's talking about. |
| 23:23.31 | funkyHat | i wasn't aware that i belong to Emmett_ |
| 23:23.32 | abrotman | !screen blanking |
| 23:23.32 | dpkg | i heard screen blanking is you can control screen blanking in console via setterm -blank (and/or your BIOS powersave settings), and in X via xset, xscreensaver, or your desktop environment's screensaver controls. |
| 23:23.38 | Emmett_ | I wear a KAngol beret. |
| 23:23.47 | abrotman | Emmett_: /whois funkyHat :) |
| 23:23.48 | thingfish | emRick: GNOME is really nice. |
| 23:23.52 | abrotman | Emmett_: he just put a space in |
| 23:24.04 | abrotman | !blank |
| 23:24.04 | dpkg | it has been said that blank is a budget screensaver for linux. To turn it off, run 'setterm -blank 0'. At the same time, you may want to add that to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
| 23:24.13 | Emmett_ | Thanks! |
| 23:24.20 | thingfish | emRick: I'd go look in KDE to see for you, but I uninstalled kde. |
| 23:24.27 | abrotman | Emmett_: does that help ? |
| 23:24.34 | thingfish | yes you do, KarlosII |
| 23:24.36 | abrotman | thingfish: you get a beer in norristown! |
| 23:24.41 | darkcmd | is the current xchat 2.4 release like the older 2.4 releases |
| 23:24.42 | thingfish | sid is nothing but trouble |
| 23:24.50 | KarlosII | curses |
| 23:25.18 | abrotman | bah .. damn sox! |
| 23:25.24 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:25.29 | joae | anybody? |
| 23:25.30 | KarlosII | thingfish: no trouble, jsut when cause of bugs that sneak into unstable become elusive |
| 23:25.52 | abrotman | why would anyone wnat to turn off screen blanking at the console ? |
| 23:25.55 | thingfish | I got tired of bugs when I used to use fedora. Burned me out on bugs like you wouldn't believe. |
| 23:25.57 | KarlosII | impossible to file a bug report on a bug u can't find |
| 23:26.02 | abrotman | !u |
| 23:26.02 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 23:26.10 | emRick | thingfish: thanks for all the help ... and I really should look at gnome some day |
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| 23:26.18 | abrotman | emRick: today! |
| 23:26.35 | thingfish | emRick: it's the DE that mohammed used. |
| 23:26.52 | thingfish | and buddha too. |
| 23:26.53 | emRick | abrotman: I'm up to my armpits in setting up stuff ... my exploration quota is in the red |
| 23:27.15 | Sokminer | abotman:Uhh I missed abunch.... Which sox ?.. white or red |
| 23:27.15 | abrotman | emRick: so you've still got room to drown! |
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| 23:27.37 | abrotman | Sokminer: oh yeah .. uhm .. 14-2 .. Clement is a tard .. BoSox lose |
| 23:27.54 | emRick | but J. R. "Bob" Dobbs uses KDE |
| 23:27.55 | abrotman | and that is tomorrow's headline :) |
| 23:28.09 | abrotman | emRick: that doesn't make it right |
| 23:28.10 | Sokminer | abrotman: Oh well maybe another 100 years |
| 23:28.20 | abrotman | Sokminer: oh well |
| 23:29.03 | thingfish | J.R. "Bob" Dobbs is a known frequenter of she-male establishments. |
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| 23:29.47 | emRick | damn, I've got to get a new guru _and_ a new DE |
| 23:29.51 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:29.59 | abrotman | emRick: make thingfish your guru! |
| 23:30.12 | thingfish | yeah, you'd be in real trouble then. |
| 23:30.28 | emRick | abrotman: what does that make you? |
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| 23:30.32 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:30.48 | abrotman | emRick: i'm the channel idiot .. ask around .. i'm always wrong and mean and rude and evil |
| 23:30.53 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:31.02 | thingfish | oh poo, abrotman, you're a sweetie. |
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| 23:31.21 | abrotman | emRick: apparently i just talk a lot |
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| 23:31.34 | emRick | that userfriendly "how r u" strip is funny |
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| 23:31.44 | thingfish | well there's nothing else in this damn world to do but talk. |
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| 23:32.16 | jcohen85 | my debian system fails on bootup after loading the bttv driver but no error is shown. Is there anything I can do to get the system to boot up? |
