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| 03:05.38 | abrotman | apt: you're alive! |
| 03:05.47 | abrotman | maybe |
| 03:06.03 | emRick` | I thought that I'm doing the simplest thing ... there should be some 50 line page with the commands that I should use to query my machine |
| 03:06.16 | abrotman | do you have a switch ? |
| 03:06.18 | abrotman | or hub |
| 03:06.30 | emRick` | abrotman: no switch, no hub ... am on dialup |
| 03:06.40 | abrotman | so you have one machine with two nics .. right ? |
| 03:06.48 | abrotman | err .. one nic .. and one modem |
| 03:06.55 | emRick` | abrotman: right |
| 03:07.02 | warjest- | put a crossover in them and power up the interfaces |
| 03:07.03 | jdhutchin1 | emRick`, here's the basics: connect the two comptuers using a crossover cable, give each computer a static ip, set the computers to route traffic to the other ip through the interface |
| 03:07.04 | warjest- | done/done |
| 03:07.05 | abrotman | and you can still have a switch |
| 03:07.21 | abrotman | emRick`: and the network cable from the one with the modme goes to a swithc ? |
| 03:07.36 | emRick` | warjest-: the wire is plugged in and the lights are green. |
| 03:08.02 | abrotman | emRick`: is your cable plugged into a switch or not |
| 03:08.02 | abrotman | ? |
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| 03:08.21 | Danar | can anyone help me with logging into gnome? it always hangs at the debian logo |
| 03:08.25 | defcal | abrotman: straight connection to the other computer, but he's not sure if it a crossover cable |
| 03:08.29 | emRick` | abrotman: PC1 has a NIC and a dialup modem ... PC2 has a NIC and no modem ... there are no switches |
| 03:08.41 | abrotman | well FFS .. if he's not sure it's a cross over .. how does he expect ot get it working ? |
| 03:08.49 | emRick` | defcal: sorry, I just didn't know that term ... what's the big deal? |
| 03:08.54 | abrotman | he needs to be 100% sure it's a crossover cable |
| 03:08.55 | Danar | i tried removing ~/.gnome* but it didn't help. |
| 03:08.56 | abrotman | !crossover |
| 03:08.56 | dpkg | well, crossover is a proprietary piece of software that allows x86 linux users to use some Windows Netscape plugins with Netscape/Mozilla/Konq. I'd give you a link, but I don't like spam. :-P, or a different wiring for CAT5 cabling, that allows you to hook 2 ethernet cards directly together with no hub in between. For more information, see http://www.gcctech.com/support/doc/crossover.html |
| 03:08.59 | abrotman | bah |
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| 03:09.16 | abrotman | ignore the first part |
| 03:09.48 | emRick` | abrotman: I just called it an ethernet cable ... it's not a phone cable ... the cable plugs in and the lights are green on both NICs |
| 03:10.22 | abrotman | hrm .. you need to make sure both have IPs .. like 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 etc |
| 03:10.40 | emRick` | abrotman: done ... each machine can ping itself |
| 03:10.51 | abrotman | so what's the problem ? |
| 03:10.55 | defcal | emRick`: what are the IPs of each machine? |
| 03:10.57 | abrotman | wait . itself? |
| 03:11.27 | emRick` | PC1 == 192.168.5.55 ... PC2 == 192.168.0.77 |
| 03:11.59 | defcal | emRick`: assuming you have 255.255.255.0 as your netmask, you need to put those IPs on the same subnet |
| 03:12.02 | abrotman | emRick`: and your netmask on each ? |
| 03:12.03 | jdhutchin1 | emRick`, they should be in the same subnet, yeah |
| 03:12.11 | jdhutchin1 | basically the first 3 groups of numbers should be the same |
| 03:12.22 | emRick` | when I tried 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 then I couldn't do the route command with 255.255.255.0 |
| 03:12.22 | abrotman | only if the netmask is 255.255.255.0 |
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| 03:12.44 | emRick` | so I tried modifying that third digit |
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| 03:13.17 | defcal | put them on the same subnet again |
| 03:13.25 | emRick` | I was trying to establish a route with: |
| 03:13.26 | emRick` | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.38 | defcal | if they are on the same subnet you won't need a route |
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| 03:14.09 | emRick` | defcal: tried putting on same subnet before and the ping didn't work |
| 03:14.17 | servus | You always need a route. The necessary routes for inter-subnet communications are just usually created by default. |
| 03:14.21 | smacnay | does gcc version matter if I compile my kernel and compile extra modules later? |
| 03:14.39 | Guerin | smacnay: yes. |
| 03:14.41 | emRick` | defcal: that was a few hours ago and my mind is a bit hazy from then ... have to check my notes |
| 03:15.08 | servus | Why should gcc version make a difference to the libc version? |
| 03:15.15 | abrotman | that shold be more of a YES! |
| 03:15.25 | smacnay | Guerin: use the same version of gcc for both I assume |
| 03:15.33 | Guerin | smacnay: right |
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| 03:16.17 | emRick` | I'm going to try 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 without using any "route" command and get back the error I had back then |
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| 03:19.49 | emRick` | when using 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2, the subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0? |
| 03:20.19 | ApEtc | short answer: yes |
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| 03:34.28 | nvz | well I am officially not a CSI fan anymore. |
| 03:34.36 | servus | Why is that? |
| 03:34.43 | servus | Did you shoot a coyote? |
| 03:35.06 | nvz | damn spike tv takes like 15-20minute commercial breaks showing me everything I dont want to see |
| 03:35.07 | olczyk | Hery all. I'm running sarge. This is the first time I am trying sound on a linux box. I'm using a PCI128. Can anyone help? |
| 03:35.25 | servus | Is that a soundcard? |
| 03:35.35 | nvz | takes two and a half hours to watch two half hour shows |
| 03:35.58 | olczyk | VCR/Tivo. All TV is that way now. |
| 03:36.20 | olczyk | servus you a SB PCI128. |
| 03:36.25 | olczyk | yeah |
| 03:36.29 | nvz | man and I thought tv was bad 2 years ago when I gave my tv away |
| 03:36.43 | dondelelcaro | nvz: it isn't going to get better... |
| 03:37.05 | nvz | heh |
| 03:37.33 | olczyk | Yeah too many commercials chase people away so they have to run more people to make up; the revenue loss which chases more people away ... |
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| 03:38.34 | nvz | I've been sitting in the hot tv room for like two and a half hours and they are still playing CSI but I dont care anymore. |
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| 03:39.40 | servus | olczyk: SB and not Ensoniq? |
| 03:40.01 | nvz | its no wonder linux is growing so popular with all the commercial free distributions |
| 03:40.12 | dumezil | i just got 5 fibre channel drive arrays (ibm fast exp500 each with 10 36gb FC drives) in a local auction, but i don't know the first thing about FC HBAs. can anyone give me some advice? |
| 03:40.31 | servus | olczyk: Never mind guess it's the same thing. The kernel module you need is called snd-ens1370. After installing that, and getting it to work, you should be able to follow standard Linux audio setup tutorials (like for Alsa) |
| 03:40.43 | olczyk | Well the card is a SB PCI128, but the chipset is Ensoniq I think. |
| 03:40.52 | nvz | if you ever wonder why I am so high on debstats, thats the answer. TV SUCKS! |
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| 03:41.17 | the_empty | TV is awesome, my wife and I watch a lot of TV shows... |
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| 03:41.24 | the_empty | ...as soon as they come out on DVD |
| 03:41.28 | nvz | heh |
| 03:41.39 | olczyk | sedrvus I already have amosule called es1370 running, but am not getting any sound. Is there a way to test it? |
| 03:41.46 | servus | olczyk: As root, try running "modprobe snd-ens1370". No response back is a good thing. Then, if the snd_ens1370 shows up in the results of "lsmod", you can find a generic Linux sound tutorial and follow it |
| 03:42.16 | servus | olczyk: Get a wave file and do "cat foobar.wav > /dev/dsp" |
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| 03:42.43 | nvz | I need to stay up all morning and I have been tired for the 4 hours |
| 03:44.22 | servus | olczyk: Once you apt-get install alsa and alsa-utils, the "alsa-conf" program might be able to help you out. |
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| 03:47.31 | dumezil | anyone know what Fibre Channel HBAs are supported by linux? |
| 03:47.51 | emRick | am using crossover cable to connect two Debian PCs at 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 and submask 255.255.255.0. However, ping gives 100% packet loss on both machines. Green lights are on both NICs. Any suggestions? |
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| 03:49.28 | DonL | There's something that |
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| 03:50.18 | DonL | 's bugging me about something at work and I can't say too much about it, but |
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| 03:51.20 | DonL | My work is a predominantly MS environment, but recently they introduced a linux based training centre.. |
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| 03:51.59 | dumezil | emRick: are you sure the cable is good? link lights will come on even if the cable isn't good |
| 03:52.08 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I would adjust your detection sensors.. they are picking up on things a little late. |
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| 03:53.26 | DonL | long story short... in this new system, the OS is Caldera Open Linux! |
| 03:53.40 | Guerin | haha |
| 03:53.40 | eck | has anyone had any luck disabling the "tapping the laptop touchpad clicks" option? |
| 03:53.53 | eck | it's really annoying |
| 03:53.53 | servus | Duct tape and a steel plate, eck |
| 03:53.56 | dondelelcaro | caldera open linux is in a "new" system? |
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| 03:54.15 | NSK | where can I find Debian for AMD64 ? |
| 03:54.17 | DonL | dondelelcaro, didn't think so myself |
| 03:54.26 | dondelelcaro | !amd64 |
| 03:54.26 | dpkg | amd64 is probably See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 03:54.40 | crispynix | DonL: er, you're aware that Caldera renamed to SCO, right? |
| 03:54.59 | NSK | does this means AMD64 is not official in Debian yet? |
| 03:55.10 | dondelelcaro | NSK: kind of; it really just means it's not in the actual archive yet, and hasn't made an "official" stable release. |
| 03:55.25 | dondelelcaro | NSK: it's still supported by Debian Developers, and being developed on actual project machines. |
| 03:55.31 | NSK | ah ok |
| 03:55.34 | DonL | crispynix, Yeah. I've been following that. I even had some problems with the install, and asked some of the support staff. They said, well, we're not too much into linux. |
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| 03:56.55 | DonL | I said " Do you know that SCO seems to be against anyone Linux? and they just didn't seem to know that. |
| 03:57.16 | eck | in case anyone is interested... i found the correct way to fix this here: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ |
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| 03:58.42 | DonL | So the question is: Is this antiquated Linux OS that was free from a company that has totally gotten away from it found a place with a company that is a huge world business? |
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| 03:59.26 | dondelelcaro | DonL: *shrug*; sounds like a product to walk the hell away from quickly. |
| 03:59.32 | Guerin | seconded |
| 03:59.46 | dondelelcaro | you may even want to run, or drive a car, or get in a jet plane. |
| 03:59.51 | DonL | dondelelcaro, if I could I would but it's way bigger than me |
| 03:59.52 | stew | eck: i have it disabled in mine |
| 04:00.00 | dondelelcaro | DonL: way bigger in what sense? |
| 04:00.05 | stew | eck: oh, you were providing a fix, not looking for one |
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| 04:00.21 | Crinkle_P | Im Here At Your Service |
| 04:00.32 | eck | stew: i asked, then i figured it out, so i posted the solution :) |
| 04:00.32 | Crinkle_P | - Bookmark Us Now! |
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| 04:00.44 | dondelelcaro | right... that didn't bode well from the start |
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| 04:01.09 | stew | eck: good work :). My laptop has both a trackpoint and a touchpad, I have my touchpad doing nothing but scrolling now which i'm quite fond of |
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| 04:01.34 | olczyk | servus, thanks |
| 04:01.50 | DonL | dondelelcaro, way bigger in my terms wouldn't have to be too much. But a big company is using this. Which I find funny. I mean they could go to Red Hat ore SuSE or somebody, couldn't they? |
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| 04:02.30 | dondelelcaro | DonL: big companies do funny things all the time... |
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| 04:02.42 | DonL | Yup. Know what you mena |
| 04:02.43 | emRick | dumezil: not sure if my cable is good ... I tried another cable and, then, the lights didn't even come on. ... Is there anything _lower_ level than "ping" to test the cable connection? |
| 04:02.44 | DonL | mean |
| 04:03.14 | dondelelcaro | emRick: are you connecting this cable directly between the two computers? |
| 04:03.19 | DonL | dondelelcaro, can you spell "cheap"? |
| 04:04.02 | dondelelcaro | DonL: odly enough, "cheap" is often spelt "expensive" |
| 04:04.35 | DonL | dondelelcaro, in a kind of way, I hope that's the truth, although, I'll probably have to fix it. |
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| 04:05.25 | servus | I have 0 gold in LORD and just made love to a Holl. Dammit. |
| 04:05.37 | DonL | decisions are made up there somewhere, and they don't necessarily have to make sense it seems |
| 04:07.23 | dumezil | emRick: take the cable and under good light look to make sure the individual wires in the cable go all the way to the end of the rj45 jack. also look at the colors of the individual wires and make sure that the wires in positions 1 and 2 on one end are in 3 and 6 on the other end and vice versa |
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| 04:08.29 | emRick | dondelelcaro: yes, I am directly connecting two PCs. Anyway, I will now inspect the cable. |
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| 04:09.16 | dondelelcaro | emRick: and you're using a crossover cable, right? |
| 04:09.17 | eck | stew: could you send me the relevant part of your xorg.conf? I was asking for a friend, who says that his touchpad is still tap-clicking |
| 04:09.32 | emRick | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 04:11.14 | emRick | emRick: I'm going to compare the cable to the Wikipedia entry on "TIA-568A/B" to ensure the jacks are correct. |
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| 04:11.45 | dondelelcaro | emRick: just look at the ends. If they are the same, it's not a crossover cable. if there are pairs reversed, they are. |
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| 04:12.38 | emRick | the colors aren't matching up ... |
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| 04:12.51 | dondelelcaro | the colors don't matter. The pin order does. |
| 04:13.07 | dumezil | colors indicate pin order |
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| 04:13.19 | dondelelcaro | only in some rare cases... |
| 04:13.28 | dumezil | what? |
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| 04:14.12 | dondelelcaro | dumezil: the colors of the wire can be anything; you can connect arbitrary pairs at one end, so long as you connect the proper arbitrary pairs at the other... |
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| 04:14.45 | dumezil | well ok... but typically ethernet cables are made with standard 4 pair cables and thus the colors generally are the same |
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| 04:15.59 | dumezil | ow,o,gw,bl,blw,g,brw,br or gw,g,ow,bl,blw,o,brw,br |
| 04:16.01 | emRick | ok, 1/2 == 3/6 on one and vice versa ... now i need to blink my eyes |
| 04:16.13 | dumezil | then its a crossover cable |
| 04:16.24 | DonL | dumezil, right. stay with the standards where possible |
| 04:17.14 | dumezil | 4 wire?! wow... haha talk about data integrety |
| 04:17.20 | dumezil | sp? |
| 04:17.49 | dumezil | emRick: ok well sounds like your cable is ok. have you checked your networking config to make sure its all correct |
| 04:17.50 | dumezil | ? |
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| 04:18.22 | dondelelcaro | it really only makes a difference when you're talking about longer distances and/or faster speeds... 10/100 can be run through aluminum foil wrapped in duct tape. |
| 04:18.26 | rking | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.37 | dumezil | way to go |
| 04:18.42 | rking | hehe |
| 04:20.07 | emRick | dumezil: I don't think I did anything special to get network config. what should I use to check network config? ... by the way, my dialup modem works and each PC can ping it's own IP address. |
| 04:21.05 | dumezil | emRick: msg me the output of ifconfig -a and netstat -r and 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' |
| 04:22.42 | dumezil | anyone know anything about fibre channel host bus adapters? im trying to pick one out and i have no clue |
| 04:23.14 | emRick | dumezil: ok, I see one problem ... I had put in a eth0 and eth1 at one point and forgot about that ... will clean up /etc/network/interfaces and see if that fixes things. |
| 04:23.38 | DonL | Oh. This is probably a good place to ask... anybody know of a good place to learn about Aptitude? |
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| 04:25.08 | poonj | hey guys |
| 04:25.36 | poonj | I am using skype, and for some reason, the mixer is set to record myself and it comes out my own headphones |
| 04:26.14 | poonj | I'm using the gnome-alsamixer |
| 04:26.33 | cheal | DonL: its documentation?... |
| 04:27.18 | DonL | cheal, maybe that was too simple. I'll look for it |
| 04:27.34 | DonL | cheal, that's what i meant |
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| 04:28.53 | DonL | cheal, yes, I never used it before but I'm interested in learning |
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| 04:30.10 | cheal | DonL: great...go ahead. my only reticence with aptitude is bug 299009 |
| 04:30.11 | root | hi |
| 04:30.33 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 299009 |
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| 04:30.36 | dpkg | #299009:I[aptitude] aptitude: Different package status results from command line vs. interactive use; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 03:33:02 UTC |
| 04:30.55 | DonL | cheal, is it a serious bug? |
| 04:30.59 | servus | But 299009 was so much more informative! |
| 04:31.47 | dumezil | anyone know what kind of fibre cables fibre channel uses? |
| 04:31.53 | kikinovak | Hi. I created a bridge br0 on my main Debian box, connecting several ethernet cards into one logical interface. Problem: I have to manually bring it down (ifdown br0) before shutting down the PC. Where is the script that brings the interfaces down on shutdown, so I can manually add br0? |
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| 04:32.08 | cheal | DonL: it's considered "important", but it makes it impractical to use aptitude and other package managers at times. for example I prefer synaptic and don't want to only use aptitude, so I don't use it at all |
| 04:32.20 | cheal | s/at times/at the same time/ |
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| 04:32.43 | cheal | instead of just using it when I have no X |
| 04:33.23 | gues1 | hey im new to linux and trying to install debian - i want to install it on an external drive connected by usb - is there any way to do this? the partitioning utility in the setup only seems to detect my primary hd |
| 04:34.24 | DonL | cheal, a little story: I use synaptic all the time. I did an update, and screwed up X big time. For some reason I went into Aptitude. Don't know why. Wasn't sure what I did, but I had a functioning OS after a couple reboots. Made me want to understand it better |
| 04:35.08 | cheal | DonL: heh, I doubt aptitude caused that...or if it did, that was just luck :) |
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| 04:35.29 | DonL | cheal, you're probably right! lol |
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| 04:35.37 | din | gn |
| 04:35.55 | DonL | cheal, probably the reboots |
| 04:36.01 | gues1 | donl or cheal do you have any idea? |
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| 04:37.36 | concept10 | gues1, I would imagine your problem is because you dont have usb support at boot time |
| 04:37.41 | cheal | gues1: please don't ask questions to particular people without reason...we're over 700 in here. I guess that would be possible, as long as the external drive is supported, but I can only point you to the install guide. |
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| 04:38.22 | gues1 | cheal: sry it just looked like you two were the only active ppl |
| 04:38.30 | DonL | gues1, now I have to admit to using Ubuntu (I love Debian) but I did an update from Hoary to Breezy, and I had no X for a while. Eventually and Now, I have a good Hoary with some Breezy stuff. Weird |
| 04:38.56 | cheal | gues1: no problem, but it's not the case |
| 04:39.05 | silverton | is it possible to compile a 2.4 kernel when running a 2.6? |
| 04:39.09 | jdhutchin1 | yes |
| 04:39.11 | gues1 | concept10: is there any way to get usb support? |
| 04:39.14 | silverton | I'm trying and it is saying I don't have ncurses |
| 04:39.36 | Nurbs | it needs ncurses only for make menuconfig afaik |
| 04:39.41 | cheal | silverton: that's probably because you don't have an ncurses package you need |
| 04:39.42 | Nurbs | install libncurses5-dev |
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| 04:39.45 | concept10 | Check the install guide, but there is someway to pass those arguments at boot time. |
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| 04:39.48 | jmg | hey all |
| 04:39.53 | jmg | anyone here use hostap drivers? |
| 04:40.02 | cheal | !anyone |
| 04:40.03 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 04:40.39 | silverton | Nurbs, thank you very much >.< |
| 04:40.42 | jmg | im getting two devices appearing after i load hostap is this normal? |
| 04:41.01 | jmg | also i cant connect to my ap and i can with orinoco |
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| 04:41.31 | cheal | !virtual package |
| 04:41.31 | dpkg | i heard virtual package is a package which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. |
| 04:41.33 | cheal | dpkg: no, virtual package is a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo; |
| 04:41.33 | dpkg | cheal: okay |
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| 04:42.15 | jmg | i want to use hostap because monitor mode works |
| 04:42.25 | Vyrus001 | how do i find out what version a cirtan video driver is in xorg ? |
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| 04:46.25 | DonL | got to go for now. Thanks for the chat! Night. |
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| 04:47.02 | wasabi_ | Hello! Anybody familiar with the inner workings of grub and initrd and linux enough to help me with this: Attempting to boot off a compact flash device. Format of flash device is fat. initrd and vmlinuz are on it, grub is set up. The system reboots itself immediatly after selecting the kernel in grub |
| 04:47.17 | encompass | Has anyone here installed gaim-festival before? |
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| 04:47.45 | encompass | I compiled and installed it... but I can't see it in my plugin list in gaim. |
| 04:48.19 | imageek | anyone know what package in debian provides xv the image viewer? |
| 04:48.34 | jcohen85 | debian refuses to boot up when i enable my onboard nforce2 ethernet. This just started happening after shipping the computer. There might be something wrong with the ethernet card on the mobo, however it appears to work properly in XP. Is there any way to troubleshoot this problem w/o getting a new ethernet card? |
| 04:48.43 | encompass | imageek use synaptic and do a search for those packs |
| 04:48.52 | imageek | encompass, ok |
| 04:50.05 | streuner | imageek: /msg dpkg xv |
| 04:50.25 | cheal | jcohen85: hum. what do you mean by "shipping the computer"? what kernel is it? |
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| 04:50.29 | encompass | jcohen85 have you tried setting a static ip to see if it is not your provider or router |
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| 04:51.18 | imageek | streuner, thanks |
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| 04:51.41 | encompass | does anyone here use festival |
| 04:51.43 | streuner | imageek: try gqview |
| 04:51.58 | jcohen85 | cheal: a) why would that stop it from booting up properly? I can't even get it to finish booting unless i disable the NIC, b) two other computers are connected to the same router w/o issue on linux & windows, c) it works fine in XP |
| 04:52.11 | imageek | streuner, yeah, but i like qiv or xv for just something real quick to view an image |
| 04:52.13 | jcohen85 | oh, sorry- that was too encompass |
| 04:52.22 | jcohen85 | *to encompass |
| 04:52.23 | imageek | apparently qiv isnt in apt either |
| 04:52.30 | encompass | oh |
| 04:52.46 | jcohen85 | cheal: i had to ship my stuff to brandeis in a minivan...it was packaged well and surrounded by padding |
| 04:52.50 | streuner | imageek: gqview ist quick too... |
| 04:53.04 | encompass | jcohen85 not sure, could be something hardware wise, linux can be touchy about it |
| 04:53.06 | jcohen85 | cheal: it's running sarge with the 2.6.8 kernel |
| 04:53.10 | imageek | streuner, yeah i suppose. might have to just get used to it |
| 04:53.15 | pacman | imageek, xli (xloadimage) is probably the quickest you'll ever find. |
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| 04:53.39 | imageek | pacman, good for just taking a peek at icons and stuff kinda quick? |
| 04:53.57 | zog-vsl | anyone know if the mysql5 release candidate is packaged as a deb anywwhere? have found the betas but not the RC |
| 04:54.03 | jcohen85 | encompass: should i restart it without the ethernet cable connected? |
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| 04:54.24 | encompass | jcohen85 good idea, I would do that |
| 04:54.38 | encompass | jcohen85 a+ cert rules would tell me that |
| 04:55.07 | jcohen85 | would this be a good replacement- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833130107 |
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| 04:55.58 | encompass | heck if I know, I don't have a browser up, I am in bitchx in consel and to lazy to type that out |
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| 04:56.03 | encompass | what kind of card is it |
| 04:56.05 | cheal | !tell zog-vsl about info mysql-server-5.0 |
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| 04:56.27 | jcohen85 | encompass: Zonet ZEN3200 |
| 04:56.34 | encompass | never heard of it |
| 04:56.43 | encompass | but most eth0's work in linux |
| 04:56.44 | jcohen85 | says it has support for linux and it has 5/5 review |
| 04:56.48 | cast | erm, hmm. i have the problem that i had tripwire installed, them removed it along with /etc/tripwire. but now when i install tripwire again, it doesnt install the /etc/tripwire/twpol.txt even though i can see that its in the .deb. whats the reason for this? |
| 04:57.10 | encompass | infact I havn't had one not work yet, I just know that some incomp. card do exist |
| 04:57.28 | jcohen85 | encompass: i'm glad abrotman helped me figure out that the NIC was the problem. debian does not report any error. it just fails to boot after loading bttv silently |
| 04:57.31 | cheal | jcohen85: you're right...that kernel used to work fine here. I can only suggest to try 2.4, but I don't have any actual clue |
| 04:57.32 | pacman | --force-confmiss |
| 04:57.34 | jcohen85 | once i disabled the NIC it worked fine |
| 04:57.47 | jcohen85 | cheal: actually, i'm using 2.6.11 atm |
| 04:57.55 | encompass | not even a log error? |
| 04:58.04 | cheal | jcohen85: with the NIC enabled? |
| 04:58.25 | jcohen85 | cheal: but i had the same problem in 2.6.8 |
| 04:58.48 | cast | pacman: thanks :) |
| 04:59.07 | jcohen85 | cheal: with the NIC enabled it still fails to sync with the NTP server and fails silently after bttv is loaded |
| 04:59.18 | jcohen85 | encompass: what log should i check? |
| 04:59.28 | encompass | jcohen85 have your try to start the nic after you boot |
| 04:59.33 | encompass | see if it crashes then? |
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| 05:00.01 | cheal | jcohen85: I was only suggesting to run 2.4 with the NIC enabled instead, but that's just an obvious workaround |
| 05:00.51 | jcohen85 | cheal: 2.4 isn't a good solution |
| 05:01.29 | jcohen85 | cheal: it's easier for me to just buy a new NIC and i have drivers for my RF niveus remote + others i'm sure that don't work with 2.4 |
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| 05:01.43 | Handmade | hi~: ) |
| 05:01.54 | jcohen85 | encompass: how can i start the nic after i bootup? |
| 05:02.01 | jcohen85 | the only way to get it to boot is to disable it in the BIOS |
| 05:02.25 | Guerin | jcohen85: you can't. if it's disabled in bios, your OS can't use it. |
| 05:02.38 | Guerin | jcohen85: get a real nic, onboard are always shit. |
| 05:03.14 | litage | how do you use i/o redirection when running a command with start-stop-daemon? |
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| 05:03.27 | jcohen85 | Guerin: i know that- that's why i was asking encompass what he was saying |
| 05:03.41 | jcohen85 | Guerin: well, it worked fine until i shipped the computer and it decided to die in linux but not in windows |
| 05:04.13 | jcohen85 | i just want to get this box up and running- it has 1/2 a TB of storage capacity and 2 tv tuners waiting to record |
| 05:04.27 | silverton | What does this mean?: make[4]: *** No rule to make target `i2c-algo-sgi.c', needed by `/usr/src/linux-2.4.24-xbox/include/linux/modules/i2c-algo-sgi.ver'. Stop. |
| 05:04.37 | jcohen85 | Guerin: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833130107 - will this NIC do the job? |
| 05:04.38 | silverton | I don't even have i2c enabled... |
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| 05:05.43 | silverton | jcohen85, more then likely |
| 05:05.43 | silverton | if not, you can always return it |
| 05:05.52 | jcohen85 | Guerin: is this a better bet- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833180004 |
| 05:06.03 | jcohen85 | it's a realtek chipset and has several positive reviews on linux |
| 05:06.17 | cheal | just realtek sounds good |
| 05:06.21 | Alfalfa | hi how do i restore my start menu in windows after a crash? running explorer.exe just brings up file explorer.. is there an argument i need? |
| 05:06.27 | cheal | more than NVIDIA :) |
| 05:06.28 | Guerin | jcohen85: no idea. |
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| 05:06.42 | cheal | Alfalfa: by looking at the manual |
| 05:06.46 | Guerin | !htfswk Alfalfa |
| 05:06.48 | dpkg | Alfalfa: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 05:07.02 | Guerin | Alfalfa: reboot. |
| 05:07.11 | Alfalfa | i dunno i thought u guys were smart |
| 05:07.28 | Guerin | Alfalfa: we're so smart, we don't use windoes. |
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| 05:07.31 | dimir | Since when smart = windows user? |
| 05:07.39 | Alfalfa | nothing else will do it? used to be running explorer would do the trick |
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| 05:08.00 | Guerin | Alfalfa: ask #windows |
| 05:08.06 | Alfalfa | thanx |
| 05:08.37 | silverton | bah, I give up... |
| 05:09.03 | deadcat | silverton: what are we giving up? can i join? |
| 05:09.14 | silverton | me compiling a 2.4 kernel with fatx support |
| 05:09.17 | dimir | :-) |
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| 05:09.25 | zog-vsl | cheal: thanks |
| 05:09.26 | deadcat | silverton: ah.. i dont have that. |
| 05:09.30 | dimir | fatchix? |
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| 05:09.49 | finn | is that the xbox fs ? |
| 05:09.59 | silverton | finn, yes |
| 05:10.08 | silverton | I need to recover my data, and that's the only way |
| 05:10.16 | pau4o | Alfalfa, try format c:\ |
| 05:10.17 | Alfalfa | no ones in #windows.. anyone know how to restore the start menu in windows? would appreciate it lots |
| 05:10.30 | silverton | Alfalfa, restart, explore.exe or explorer.exe |
| 05:10.34 | finn | no idea Alfalfa |
| 05:10.40 | silverton | if that doesn't do it, then, well, no clu8e |
| 05:11.12 | deadcat | Alfalfa: if it doesnt work. restart, if that doesnt work, reinstall. |
| 05:11.22 | silverton | werd |
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| 05:11.37 | finn | or do the ugly thing |
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| 05:11.51 | finn | "fix" the install with a windows CD |
| 05:11.55 | Guerin | bah |
| 05:11.59 | Guerin | woft |
| 05:12.19 | finn | later |
| 05:12.28 | dimir | Yeah, what was it called, the rescue mode? |
| 05:12.30 | Alfalfa | anything like explorer -startmenu? i really dont wanna restart i have some downloads going |
| 05:12.40 | Guerin | Alfalfa: WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW |
| 05:12.45 | dondelelcaro | Alfalfa: how should we know? Install Debian. |
| 05:12.47 | Guerin | Alfalfa: THIS IS NOT A WINDOWS CHANNEL |
| 05:12.50 | Guerin | again |
| 05:13.16 | deadcat | calm down everyone, feel free to /ignore him. but just calm the f down |
| 05:13.19 | bob2 | Alfalfa: off-topic, sorry. try #windows or install Debian. |
| 05:13.32 | cast | dont be to harsh on him, while it was the wrong place to ask i think it common enough that *nix users know more about windows then windows users :) |
| 05:13.33 | dimir | exactly |
| 05:13.51 | Guerin | i'm calm |
| 05:13.53 | Alfalfa | i wish more peeps were in windows.. any other chans with smart people? |
| 05:13.55 | dimir | lol, true.. |
| 05:14.06 | deadcat | Guerin: no you're not.. (= |
| 05:14.06 | Guerin | it's just clear we were all being too subtle |
| 05:14.14 | dondelelcaro | Alfalfa: try asking on a totally different network. Like efnet or something. |
| 05:14.20 | dimir | Alfalfa: did you try google aready? |
| 05:14.30 | dimir | s/aready/already/ |
| 05:14.33 | dondelelcaro | in any case, don't ask anything more about it here. |
| 05:15.06 | dimir | Alfalfa: there is a lot of people on #windows @ IRCNET |
| 05:15.14 | deadcat | anyone using fbpanel? that software is 4.3 and debian is still 4.1, what up? lazy maintainer? |
| 05:15.31 | dimir | hehe. |
| 05:16.07 | jbroome | deadcat: yes, that's it. the package maintainers are lazy. |
| 05:16.09 | Guerin | deadcat: if you think the maintainer is lazy, package it yourself and get a sponsor NMU it |
| 05:16.11 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: the maintainer is probably MIA, make a package that fixes the grave bug and the wishlist bug, and someone will sponsor it. |
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| 05:16.17 | Alfalfa | im in my browser and it only connects to here and yes i googled it and didnt get much help. i guess ill bite the bullet and restart |
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| 05:16.39 | silverton | ARGH! >:O |
| 05:16.42 | deadcat | what you mean sponsor? |
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| 05:17.01 | Guerin | deadcat: #debian-mentors |
| 05:17.02 | silverton | wtf is this?? arch/i386/Kconfig:523: can't open file "kernel/Kconfig.preempt" |
| 05:17.05 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: have a DD upload it for you; if you're interested in actually maintaining it, I'll even sponsor it for you. |
| 05:17.21 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ah.. i guess i am gonna compile it myself then. |
| 05:17.21 | cast | silverton: that sir, is a error message! |
| 05:17.26 | dimir | Alfalfa: byte it! |
| 05:17.34 | silverton | Thank You cast... |
| 05:17.34 | dimir | :-) |
| 05:17.47 | silverton | You answered lifes question |
| 05:17.52 | silverton | now I'm off to kill myself |
| 05:17.57 | dondelelcaro | silverton: sounds like it's time to use menuconfig instead... or touch kernel/Kconfig.preempt or something. |
| 05:18.01 | karsten | deadcat: Que pasta? |
| 05:18.08 | silverton | dondelelcaro, that was with menuconfig |
| 05:18.13 | deadcat | karsten: que? |
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| 05:18.30 | dondelelcaro | silverton: then perhaps you've got a bad kernel source? what version are you using? |
| 05:18.36 | karsten | deadcat: Yes. And pasta. |
| 05:18.37 | silverton | 2.6.12 |
| 05:18.39 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs #327174 |
| 05:18.42 | dpkg | #327174:G[fbpanel] fbpanel: segfault at start up; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 06:18:02 UTC |
| 05:18.45 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: ^^^ this would be bad. |
| 05:18.47 | deadcat | karsten: (= |
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| 05:19.16 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: what version is that? |
| 05:19.20 | dondelelcaro | any time you see a package with a 26 day old "totally un-fucking-usable" bug, it's not being maintained. |
| 05:19.32 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: 4.1-2 |
| 05:19.35 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: oh.. ok.. |
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| 05:20.18 | jcohen85 | Guerin, encompass, cheal: Thanks for your help. I just bought the realtek card on newegg to replace my onboard NIC |
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| 05:22.56 | silverton | this is torture, I can see my data, but I can't get it :( |
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| 05:23.28 | deadcat | damn. fbpanel 4.3 is nicer (= |
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| 05:23.45 | anton | is it possible to configure postfix to also forward the mails to another smtp server for the same domain? eg: john@domain.com -- postfix delivers to Maildir, and forwards it as well to another smtp server eg: exchange? we're running a parallel test environment. |
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| 05:24.48 | pacman | silverton, it sounds like you've mixed up multiple kernel sources. try rm -rf'ing it (save the .config if you like) and untar it fresh |
| 05:24.49 | anton | in essence, mail gets delivered twice, so both smtp servers receive it. |
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| 05:25.51 | deadcat | whats this in /var/log/debug? Oct 4 22:21:58 hades sh: 3^Iopen^I/dev/tty^I#success |
| 05:26.03 | nvz | pacman: I don't care what people say about you being old fashion and played out. I still love your game. :P |
| 05:26.07 | silverton | pacman, I have, but I'll try it again |
| 05:26.13 | anton | any ideas? |
| 05:27.00 | silverton | well, actually I know, since the fatx module doesn't work with the 2.6 kernel, and that's where I got that last error from |
| 05:27.06 | silverton | s/know/won't |
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| 05:27.27 | VicCode | spanish |
| 05:28.00 | VicCode | hola necesito ayuda |
| 05:28.08 | pacman | what kernel version actually contains a Kconfig.preempt file? |
| 05:28.08 | nvz | dpkg, spanish |
| 05:28.08 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 05:28.20 | pacman | !es |
| 05:28.20 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 05:28.52 | caphuso | pacman: at least 2.6.13 |
| 05:29.00 | caphuso | but should be in earlier versions of 2.6 too |
| 05:29.12 | silverton | pacman, that was 2.6.12 |
| 05:29.14 | mo1991 | can someone point me in the right direction for a ndiswrapper howto for sarge - trying to install a dwl g510 wireless card |
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| 05:29.26 | mo1991 | dlink wireless |
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| 05:29.46 | mqduck | heyhey, can anybody tell me where i can get a list of all packages installed? |
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| 05:30.12 | anton | is it possible to configure postfix to also forward the mails to another smtp server for the same domain? eg: john@domain.com -- postfix delivers to Maildir, and forwards it as well to another smtp server eg: exchange? we're running a parallel test environment. |
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| 05:30.21 | pacman | I have 2.6.12.5 sources here, and there isn't any Kconfig.preempt |
| 05:30.46 | Guerin | anton: doable with procmail |
| 05:30.51 | maher | mqduck: dpkg -l, dpkg --get-selections, man dpkg |
| 05:31.07 | anton | guerin: any tips where i can start searching? |
| 05:31.28 | Guerin | anton: procmail manpages :) |
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| 05:31.46 | seb- | what is a colo? |
| 05:31.56 | mqduck | maher: thanks |
| 05:32.03 | seb- | i see ads for colocation servers or somthun like dat |
| 05:32.04 | anton | heh |
| 05:32.08 | mo1991 | or can someone explain how to use ndiswapper - I don't believe there is a linux driver for this d link card - should have gotten a different one |
| 05:32.12 | Guerin | seb-: a facility which houses servers |
| 05:32.21 | anton | so basically, i set procmail as the mail transport on the postfix machine? |
| 05:32.22 | bob2 | mo1991: is it too late to exchagen it? |
| 05:32.34 | anton | and figure out how to configure it to pass on to the local maildir and another smtp server? |
| 05:32.37 | seb- | Guerin: thanks, why called 'colo' instead of just 'a place for servers'? |
| 05:32.40 | bob2 | anton: doable with postfix, too |
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| 05:33.02 | Guerin | seb-: that question is too stupid to answer. |
| 05:33.04 | pacman | seb- "colocation" - a service where you pay to locate a server that you on on an ISP's premises, so you're as close as possible to the backbone. Sometimes you supply the hardware, sometimes the ISP does |
| 05:33.36 | jm_ | procmail doesn't work as MTA, only as MDA |
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| 05:34.06 | seb- | pacman: thanks, |
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| 05:35.41 | mo1991 | bob2 - I'll probably exchange it - would like to see how ndiswrapper works anyway tho - I have several systems on my friends machines to |
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| 05:36.21 | root | hi |
| 05:37.14 | dumezil | anyone know exactly what kind of fiber cable is used to connect fibre channel cards to a drive array? i know its duplex sc fiber connectors, but i don't know if its 50/125 fiber or 62.5/125 fiber |
| 05:37.16 | root | somebody know how configure a ftp server with a private ip class C |
| 05:37.26 | dumezil | !root |
| 05:37.26 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 05:38.24 | root | ok I got It |
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| 05:39.37 | root | I need to public my private ip tha the ISP provide me how can I do That |
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| 05:40.07 | dumezil | what do you mean? "public my private ip"? |
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| 05:41.12 | Daniel_G | hi |
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| 05:41.28 | root | well The ISP gave me a Private IP But I want to install a FTP server but nobody can contact my server |
| 05:41.56 | root | because I have a Private Ip eg 10.116.87.65 |
| 05:42.11 | caphuso | switch to a decent ISP |
| 05:42.27 | caphuso | or, at the very least, a barely acceptable one |
| 05:42.28 | dumezil | check www.whatismyip.net and use the ip address it gives you |
| 05:42.49 | root | jaja yeah I'm going to do that very soon |
| 05:42.58 | pacman | we need a gong. |
| 05:43.01 | cast | in the mean time theres always linode :) |
| 05:43.04 | root | but I wonder if that is posible |
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| 05:43.18 | pacman | when the questions cross that stupidity line where it's time to give up, someone gets up and hits the gong. |
| 05:43.34 | caphuso | pacman: we'd be deaf in hours |
| 05:43.36 | jbroome | pacman: sounds like something to add to the bot |
| 05:43.39 | jbroome | !gong |
| 05:43.40 | pacman | thank you, next contestant... |
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| 05:43.53 | maher | root: you probably want a dynamic dns service - like dyndns |
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| 05:44.04 | dondelelcaro | "You're the next contestant on the PRICE IS WRONG" |
| 05:44.34 | maher | root: sorry - your isp gave you a private ip? get a new isp... |
| 05:44.41 | caphuso | first thing root needs is a non-private IP |
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| 05:45.30 | simonrvn | root as a nick also makes you a target... |
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| 05:46.22 | root | ok thanks |
| 05:46.30 | seb- | i wonder how good freebsd is compared to debian |
| 05:47.05 | maher | seb-: ask in #gentoo |
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| 05:49.20 | seb- | maher: why will they know? |
| 05:49.39 | seb- | dondelelcaro: i'm waiting for it |
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| 05:50.04 | cast | maher: subtle attept at starting a flamewar in the enemys chan i wonder? |
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| 05:50.24 | maher | cast: no - just another stupid joke... |
| 05:50.28 | cast | seb-: google! theres a few pages debating the merits of linux/*bsd around |
| 05:50.48 | cast | seb-: or, qemu will boot that freebsd livecd [freebsie?] |
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| 05:53.43 | seb- | "As server platform, free BSD from the technical point of view was clearly superior to Linux with kernel v2.2. However, Linux kernel 2.4 allowed to match both platforms in almost all aspects. " --http://snow.prohosting.com/guru4mac/linux_for_mac6_vs_freebsd.html -- hot dog! linux wins! |
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| 05:54.03 | Guerin | ... |
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| 05:55.43 | da_bon_bon | when i run apt-get .. it sucks up so much of bandwidth that i cant even surf or irc |
| 05:55.59 | maher | da_bon_bon: try wondershaper |
| 05:56.07 | simonrvn | *cough* wshaper *cough* |
| 05:56.15 | da_bon_bon | whats wshpaer ? |
| 05:56.20 | da_bon_bon | *wshaper ? |
| 05:56.22 | simonrvn | what maher said |
| 05:56.28 | jm_ | or enable advanced router kernel config option, it definitely helps |
| 05:56.34 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 05:56.44 | simonrvn | that stuff fucking rocks |
| 05:56.49 | Marsian | Does anyone know why I can connect to a router with ipw2200 (Intel Wireless/Pro 2915 A/B/G) but I can't get an ip from it? |
| 05:56.53 | da_bon_bon | hehe.. i am not that experienced |
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| 05:57.14 | Guerin | i believe apt* even has an obscure undocumented config option to throttle bandwidth |
| 05:57.21 | simonrvn | it does |
| 05:57.28 | da_bon_bon | simonrvn: that being ? |
| 05:57.31 | Guerin | like it has an obscure undocumented option to change the default timeout |
| 05:57.36 | simonrvn | though i think it is documented |
| 05:57.46 | da_bon_bon | is gmail.com down ? |
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| 05:58.13 | jm_ | timeout is definitely documented |
| 05:58.17 | simonrvn | not from here, 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004m |
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| 05:58.43 | simonrvn | you want mail.google.com FYI |
| 05:58.48 | Guerin | jm_: i know it is, because i found it ... but it's bloody hard to find. |
| 05:58.57 | Guerin | gmail.com works too |
| 05:59.03 | simonrvn | *nods* |
| 05:59.12 | da_bon_bon | ok, simonrvn .. firefox wont open the site for me |
| 05:59.25 | jm_ | Guerin: I always read configure-index |
| 05:59.50 | Guerin | jm_: configure-index? |
| 05:59.58 | simonrvn | *shrug*. i use galeon or ff, usually galeon. gmail supports any of the gecko-based browsers |
| 06:00.08 | jm_ | Guerin: /usr/share/doc/apt/... |
| 06:00.29 | Guerin | jm_: not present |
| 06:00.42 | Marsian | Anyone know about the problem I asked about? |
| 06:00.51 | jm_ | Guerin: ehh? try looking in examples dir |
| 06:01.09 | jm_ | but it doesn't list anything about bandwith |
| 06:02.16 | streuner | Marsian: i have no idea about wireless at all..., but the router uses DHCP, right? |
| 06:02.40 | Marsian | Yes. |
| 06:02.54 | Marsian | dhclient doesnt ever get a dhcpoffer |
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| 06:04.40 | Guerin | bah, something has broken my nfs setup |
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| 06:06.31 | streuner | Marsian: and you did set up the interfaces file as well? |
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| 06:06.51 | shastry | dpkg: about ubuntu |
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| 06:09.27 | mo1991 | once I have installed the wifi drivers? How do I load the modules? |
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| 06:09.50 | Marsian | streuner: I have successfully bound to the Access Point. AFAIK |
| 06:10.18 | Marsian | mo1991: What wifi drivers are you using? |
| 06:10.34 | streuner | Marsian: can you ping the AP? |
| 06:11.05 | Marsian | No. Have no IP address, or dhcoffer. |
| 06:11.15 | Marsian | It is very odd. |
| 06:11.27 | Marsian | I have the MAC address of the AP and thats about it. |
| 06:11.34 | Marsian | And the essid of course. |
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| 06:12.34 | Joe-VanDer-Scala | frenche debian? |
| 06:12.44 | maher | !fr |
| 06:12.44 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 06:12.54 | liable | Marsian: so run dhclient eth0 or whatever the iface is called. |
| 06:13.06 | Marsian | It times out and goes to "sleep" |
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| 06:13.38 | liable | Marsian: the router has no encryption atm? |
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| 06:13.57 | Marsian | liable: I have tried it with and without encryption. |
| 06:14.20 | liable | Marsian: well, turn it off foe now, and try setting a static ip. |
| 06:14.20 | Marsian | It is able to get the MAC address (which it only sems to be able to do when I give it the key) |
| 06:14.29 | Marsian | So I think the encryption part is working fine. |
| 06:14.38 | mo1991 | Marsian - downloaded the mad wifi drivers and compiled - then installed via the instructions given by dpkg |
| 06:14.56 | Marsian | mo1991: For the Intel Wireless 2915? |
| 06:14.59 | mo1991 | how do I activate the card or the driver |
| 06:15.04 | liable | mo1991: modprobe ath-hal |
| 06:15.06 | Marsian | ohhh |
| 06:15.07 | usn_router | hi all |
| 06:15.09 | mo1991 | no for a dwl-g510 |
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| 06:15.44 | streuner | you are only stupid if you don't wanna learn |
| 06:15.51 | mo1991 | liable - modprobe ath-hal seemed to work - how do I activate the card now? |
| 06:15.57 | Marsian | s/stupid/slow/ |
| 06:16.00 | mo1991 | don't see ath0 |
| 06:16.00 | liable | stupid is a sstupid does. :) |
| 06:16.06 | maher | streuner: spose you try really hard to learn but you don't? |
| 06:16.24 | liable | mo1991: man ifconfig, man interfaces, /usr/share/ifupdown/example/ |
| 06:16.41 | liable | mo1991: ifconfig -a |
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| 06:16.44 | streuner | maher: cleverness is a relative term... ;-) |
| 06:16.44 | mo1991 | i need to add ath0 to /etc/interfaces? |
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| 06:17.16 | mo1991 | ifconfig -a doesn't show it - probably as it's not in /etc/interfaces |
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| 06:17.26 | liable | mo1991: read the docs, yes you do if you want to use ifup/down, or you can use ifconfig if you like typing.. |
| 06:17.51 | liable | mo1991: are the other modules loaded? |
| 06:18.04 | mo1991 | liable - why do I not see ath0 in ifconfig -a |
| 06:18.19 | mo1991 | I just did the install based on what dpkg /msg said here |
| 06:18.31 | mo1991 | believe it downloaded the sources nad then installed the modules |
| 06:18.35 | maher | mo1991: does it show up in iwconfig? |
| 06:18.41 | liable | mo1991: the others should be loaded, just check from lsmod, theres about 4 modules.. |
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| 06:19.40 | mo1991 | doesn't show up in iwconfig - does show up in lsmod ath_pci |
| 06:20.00 | mo1991 | ath_hal used by ath_pci |
| 06:20.09 | da_bon_bon | i am using debian etch -- will it be ok to add the DCC repos ? |
| 06:20.23 | maher | mo1991: if it doesn't show up in iwconfig something didn't work - read the kernel log for what happens when youload the module |
| 06:20.34 | maher | da_bon_bon: no |
| 06:20.52 | mo1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.52 | da_bon_bon | maher: ok. what might happen ? |
| 06:21.40 | mo1991 | maher - did a modprobe ath-hal and modporbe ath-pci |
| 06:21.44 | Marsian | mo1991: you do have the kernel option enabled for wifi right? |
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| 06:22.19 | maher | da_bon_bon: da boom boom |
| 06:22.39 | maher | mo1991: what does dmesg / syslog / kern.log say |
| 06:22.43 | da_bon_bon | maher: lol.. no, really, what will happen ? |
| 06:22.53 | mo1991 | Marisan - using standard sarge 2.6.8.2 kernel |
| 06:23.19 | maher | da_bon_bon: probably nothing as dcc is based off sarge - but if you are unlucky some incompatible package will be installed on your system |
| 06:23.20 | liable | mo1991: is it pcmcia card? |
| 06:23.28 | da_bon_bon | ok, maher .. |
| 06:23.41 | mo1991 | liable - pci dlink dwl-g510 |
| 06:23.59 | liable | what the hell is dcc? |
| 06:24.36 | mo1991 | ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 1 |
| 06:24.41 | maher | liable: a doomed effort to get debian derivatives to be binary compatible |
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| 06:24.53 | liable | oh! |
| 06:24.55 | maher | mo1991: it didn't work |
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| 06:25.31 | mo1991 | maher - so what should my next step be? |
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| 06:26.00 | mo1991 | reinstall wifi? - someone mentioned kernel options? using standard sarge |
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| 06:26.10 | maher | liable: http://www.dccalliance.org/ - or maybe the best thing since fried bread... |
| 06:26.28 | cast | how hard is it to get a certain config you wanted into the stock kernel? [LVM->encryption] |
| 06:27.05 | maher | mo1991: where di dyou get your driver? |
| 06:27.14 | cast | [obviously into the current experimental/unstable] |
| 06:27.55 | maher | cast: dunno - send a patch to the kernel team - rea the debian kernel maintainers mailing list... |
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| 06:28.21 | liable | maher: thanks for the link. |
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| 06:29.09 | gudi | hi |
| 06:29.10 | Guerin | cast: into the debian kernel? You'd want to talk to the kernel maintenance team on their mailing list |
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| 06:29.34 | Guerin | cast: and probably make sure the patches apply, build and work cleanly as well ... on all architectures |
| 06:29.48 | gudi | how can i redirect all tcp 445 traffic that come to the internal ip of my firewall to another server in the lan ? i tried a DNAT put it not owrk |
| 06:29.57 | Guerin | gudi: #iptables |
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| 06:30.17 | gudi | Guerin, all sleep there :-( |
| 06:30.40 | Guerin | !they aren't there |
| 06:30.40 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel aren't helping with your non-debian problem , it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 06:32.10 | gudi | schizoid, i can get it to work if i try to forward from external to internal but not from internal to internal |
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| 06:35.35 | pacman | you're probably trying to redirect something that's not going through that box at all. |
| 06:35.58 | gudi | the the counter increase |
| 06:36.54 | simonrvn | that just means packets are going through that rule, nothing more |
| 06:37.06 | litage | what's the difference between /usr/bin/ and /usr/local/bin/ ? |
| 06:37.16 | simonrvn | local |
| 06:37.37 | caphuso | litage: /msg dpkg fhs |
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| 06:38.11 | simonrvn | diff -uN /usr/bin /usr/local/bin ; a_fuck_of_a_lot ;p |
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| 06:38.20 | faber2 | moring |
| 06:38.22 | faber2 | n |
| 06:38.23 | maher | litage: dpkg never puts anything in local - well - almost never |
| 06:38.25 | da_bon_bon | i want runlevel 3 to not start X and 5 to do that... i cant configure it that way! all runlevels 2-5 start X :( ... what do i change ? |
| 06:38.32 | dimir | M0rn!! |
| 06:38.43 | simonrvn | da_bon_bon: doesn't work that way |
| 06:38.51 | maher | da_bon_bon: syminks in rcN.d or use updte-rc.d |
| 06:38.52 | Aim_Here | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.57 | da_bon_bon | simonrvn: what doesnt work what way ? |
| 06:38.58 | dimir | da_bon_bon: what login manager you use? |
| 06:39.04 | da_bon_bon | dimir: kdm |
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| 06:39.07 | schizoid | simonrvn: /usr/local is used for no system software aliken to /opt |
| 06:39.09 | faber2 | how can i change the language of a debian system back to english? |
| 06:39.10 | simonrvn | @tell da_bon_bon -about nodm |
| 06:39.13 | mo1991 | ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. |
| 06:39.22 | mo1991 | ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 1 |
| 06:39.23 | simonrvn | schizoid: why are you telling me? |
| 06:39.23 | maher | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 06:39.32 | da_bon_bon | now who is ravenbird ? |
| 06:39.39 | simonrvn | my bot |
| 06:39.40 | dimir | da_bon_bon: then just fix the kdm links in /etc/rc*.d accordingly |
| 06:39.46 | mo1991 | do I need to have some certain kernel setup to use madwifi |
| 06:39.46 | da_bon_bon | a helper to dpkg, simonrvn ? |
| 06:39.47 | mo1991 | ? |
| 06:39.50 | schizoid | simonrvn: sorry wront highlight |
| 06:39.54 | simonrvn | da_bon_bon: sure |
| 06:39.55 | maher | mo1991: where did you get your driver? |
| 06:39.56 | liable | mo1991: no |
| 06:39.58 | simonrvn | schizoid: np |
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| 06:40.14 | mo1991 | got it from where dpkg said to get it |
| 06:40.16 | da_bon_bon | ok, simonrvn |
| 06:40.18 | da_bon_bon | ok, dimir |
| 06:40.21 | kelmo_lap | mo1991: come to #madwifi |
| 06:40.23 | simonrvn | da_bon_bon: their databases are very similar |
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| 06:41.48 | kelmo_lap | !tell kelmo_lap about madwifi |
| 06:42.18 | kelmo_lap | !tell kelmo_lap about madwifi-install |
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| 06:43.49 | mhall | hello all |
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| 06:44.23 | Seb | sup mhall |
| 06:44.26 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 06:45.25 | da_bon_bon | anyone here uses checkinstall ? |
| 06:45.32 | dimir | da_bon_bon: another option is to use sysvconfig, probably will be easier for you. |
| 06:45.36 | nav5 | I can't seem to make grep work with a file that has an extension, what is the syntax for that? |
| 06:45.50 | Seb | nav5: grep pattern file.extension |
| 06:46.24 | caphuso | nav5: grep pattern file |
| 06:46.32 | pacman | baffling. |
| 06:46.39 | nav5 | its not working, I get no reply back |
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| 06:46.43 | caphuso | there is no such thing as extensions, as far as unix tools are concerned |
| 06:46.46 | Seb | nav5: then you got no match |
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| 06:46.59 | maher | nav5: what file, what pattern |
| 06:47.04 | Seb | nav5: you do understand how grep work, right ? |
| 06:47.09 | nav5 | Seb: the word exists in the file |
| 06:47.19 | caphuso | nav5: try 'grep . file' and if that doesn't output anything either, your file is empty |
| 06:47.20 | Seb | nav5: case problem ? |
| 06:47.30 | ke6isf | nav5: grep is case sensitive. |
| 06:47.31 | simonrvn | the 'extension' in unix-like OSes is meaningless, it's just some extra characters on the end of the filename to a *nix host |
| 06:47.44 | nav5 | ah! ok..forgot it was case-sensitive |
| 06:47.50 | nav5 | thank you |
| 06:47.50 | simonrvn | grep -i |
| 06:47.53 | ke6isf | nav5: To tell grep to ignore case, do 'grep -i pattern filename'. |
| 06:47.58 | nav5 | okay |
| 06:48.42 | nav5 | it worked, appreciate it you all |
| 06:49.01 | ke6isf | nav5: All in a night's work. |
| 06:50.56 | pacman | oh hell. apt-get source is dumb. |
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| 06:51.59 | pacman | I already _had_ the orig.tar.gz, spent 4 hours downloading it... I run apt-get source so it'll get the diff and do the extraction, and it doesn't use the existing orig.tar.gz, it deletes it! |
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| 06:53.11 | pacman | I could swear I've seen it resume downloads before... |
| 06:54.12 | kelmo_lap | it usually does |
| 06:54.19 | kelmo_lap | maybe the md5sum was bad |
| 06:54.32 | pacman | it either deleted it or truncated it. Son of a bitch. |
| 06:54.43 | pacman | no warning, just deleted it. |
| 06:54.53 | Seb | pacman: maybe it wasn't the same version ? |
| 06:55.05 | Seb | pacman: like you apt-get update'd in between ? |
| 06:55.29 | da_bon_bon | how do i get a source of a package from repos, and build it for myself ? |
| 06:55.37 | pacman | it chose the same filename to download into... |
| 06:55.40 | Seb | da_bon_bon: apt-get source packagename |
| 06:56.03 | da_bon_bon | ok, Seb |
| 06:56.12 | da_bon_bon | Seb: where is the source stored ? |
| 06:56.24 | pacman | don't use apt-get source :) |
| 06:56.25 | silverton | /usr/src ? |
| 06:56.29 | Seb | da_bon_bon: current dir. man apt-get. |
| 06:56.33 | silverton | oh |
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| 06:56.48 | pacman | apt-get source just made me waste an entire day's worth of downloading |
| 06:56.56 | da_bon_bon | ok.. sorry , Seb |
| 06:56.56 | da_bon_bon | pacman: why not ? |
| 06:57.10 | Seb | da_bon_bon: he's just hating cause he's on dialup ;) |
| 06:57.30 | pacman | look at the top of your screen dammit. |
| 06:57.36 | Seb | pacman: serously, submit a but of you're positive it did that. |
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| 06:58.01 | da_bon_bon | Seb: ok.. i got the source .. can you point me to some references that will teach me how to build it, the debian way ? |
| 06:58.14 | pacman | when I finish downloading that monster again, I'll try to reproduce the bug (after making a backup) |
| 06:58.20 | Seb | da_bon_bon: you thought about asking that to google ? |
| 06:58.34 | da_bon_bon | Seb: yes. but i want an official guide.. |
| 06:58.38 | Seb | da_bon_bon: "build package debian way", I mean, you phrase it right to start with, so why not go with google first ? |
| 06:58.48 | da_bon_bon | ok |
| 06:58.50 | da_bon_bon | i am trying |
| 06:58.54 | pacman | man dpkg-buildpackage... or do a debian/rules build ; fakeroot debian/rules binary |
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| 07:00.16 | mo1991 | which package do I need installed to do a make-kpkg |
| 07:00.55 | kelmo_lap | mo1991: kernel-package |
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| 07:01.05 | da_bon_bon | ok, pacman |
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| 07:09.47 | mhall | Seb: Had it not been the same version then the old would have been disregarded. |
| 07:10.11 | Seb | mhall: true |
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| 07:10.24 | Seb | mhall: so little activity here that you're backscrolling ? ;) |
| 07:10.26 | mhall | pacman: Of course, in the future, it's best not to make too many assumptions about download apps' overwrite behaviors. |
| 07:10.37 | mhall | pacman: But I share your surprise at apt-get's misbehavior. |
| 07:10.42 | Seb | keikoz: wrong chan mec :) |
| 07:11.11 | mhall | Seb: I kind of disappeared into a black hole cleaning out my jokes directory |
| 07:11.27 | pacman | mhall, I wouldn't have made the assumption but I've seen it resume interrupted transfers before... which means if the file is complete already it _should_ skip right over it |
| 07:11.34 | mhall | Seb: Some of the cruft in it was not sufficiently politically incorrent to justify its continued use of disk space. |
| 07:11.43 | Seb | mhall: that can happen indeed. With pr0n directoriers too. |
| 07:11.46 | mhall | pacman: Yes like I said I share your surprise at that misbehavior. |
| 07:11.57 | mhall | Seb: Already dealt with the pr0n a couple days ago. |
| 07:12.09 | Seb | mhall: first things first :) |
| 07:12.13 | mhall | Seb: Now I have to go through my messy folder of ancient unsorted cruft pr0n. |
| 07:12.21 | mhall | Seb: I only sorted the new half of my pr0n. |
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| 07:12.36 | pacman | if it had been an checksum mismatch it should have printed some kind of warning about it... |
| 07:12.41 | mhall | Seb: But about 50% of the old pr0n was unworthy since I'd downloaded it when I knew little about pr0n. |
| 07:12.47 | Seb | mhall: a "jokes break" was needed indeed. |
| 07:12.58 | mhall | Seb: So it should not be too hard to wipe out whatever is still left. |
| 07:13.03 | pacman | I have some awful packet loss here. |
| 07:13.31 | mhall | Seb: Then new pr0n directory was 29GiB of good quality stuff. |
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| 07:13.52 | mhall | Seb: The old pr0n directory is 19GiB of piss ant files. That will be a pain in the ass. |
| 07:14.08 | mhall | Seb: Erm unfortunate choice of terms of dissatisfaction there on my part, heh. |
| 07:14.18 | pacman | --- 63.212.221.3 ping statistics --- 32 packets transmitted, 12 received, 62% packet loss, time 31004ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 224.927/267.545/314.382/23.196 ms -- and that's 2 hops out from me! |
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| 07:14.31 | mhall | pacman: wtf |
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| 07:14.58 | pacman | with an idle connection from me to the first hop |
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| 07:15.57 | mhall | pacman: ? |
| 07:16.10 | jm_ | yay new security host is awfully slow for me |
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| 07:16.25 | mhall | jm_: oh, burn! |
| 07:16.27 | Seb | mhall: haha |
| 07:16.44 | mhall | Seb: heh |
| 07:16.47 | pacman | it's *so* much fun being on Level3. Surprisingly it turns out Sean Connery is not a telecomunnications expert. |
| 07:17.05 | mhall | pacman: you say some pretty unusual shit |
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| 07:19.15 | faber2 | how can i set the language of a debian system? |
| 07:19.17 | daniiiiiiiiiii | hello |
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| 07:19.39 | caphuso | faber2: $LANG, $LC_* |
| 07:19.51 | mwilson | oh, gods, but that's remarkably ugly |
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| 07:20.10 | pacman | mhall, didn't spot the reference? there were some TV commericals with Sean Connery's voice boasting of the wondrous qualities of the Level3 network. The very same which now has 62% packet loss between me and whatever gateway is 2 hops out. |
| 07:20.23 | daniiiiiiiiiii | I have a really slow bandwidth compared to my maximal in all my connections. Any1 has a guess what can cause this? |
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| 07:20.35 | pacman | mhall, thanks, I'd hate to be considered "usual" |
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| 07:20.37 | daniiiiiiiiiii | slow slim.. |
| 07:20.55 | mwilson | Wow... who designed this... ugly xmms skin? |
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| 07:21.21 | guideX | question... how do i edit the file /etc/ld.so.conf (it's read only and it wont let me change that) |
| 07:21.37 | dondelelcaro | guideX: become root, and edit it. |
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| 07:21.47 | llama32 | what fully functional, non-fugly (or open source and defugliable), X toolkits are there? apart from gtk2 and qt ofc... is there an open source motif? |
| 07:21.48 | guideX | silly newb question... |
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| 07:21.59 | Horde | ugh does linux have the cnf401 driver already ro di i have to install it? |
| 07:22.05 | pacman | the free motif clone is called lesstif. |
| 07:22.06 | guideX | if i have to do it under root, how do i edit it from the terminal |
| 07:22.07 | Horde | or do* |
| 07:22.08 | dondelelcaro | one onders *why* you want to edit ld.so.conf... |
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| 07:22.18 | pacman | motif is the root of all fugliness though. Xaw forever! |
| 07:22.22 | guideX | i'm installing linux wireless tools |
| 07:22.29 | guideX | and it says to add a line to it |
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| 07:22.39 | guideX | under root huh |
| 07:22.41 | da_bon_bon | debian firefox does not use pango rendering ? |
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| 07:22.45 | guideX | well i'll try that, thanks very much |
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| 07:22.49 | mwilson | llama32: fltk, for one. Google is your friend. |
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| 07:23.06 | dondelelcaro | guideX: those instructions are wrong; just install wireless-tools. |
| 07:23.11 | da_bon_bon | how do i enable pango in firefox, on debian ? |
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| 07:23.25 | llama32 | pacman: motif isnt on the top of the fugly list... 3D widgets almost work for it, much less fugly than win98 |
| 07:23.38 | mhall | pacman: lol |
| 07:23.51 | llama32 | thanks mwilson |
| 07:23.55 | mhall | mwilson: the bug reports thereto pertaining were some of the oddest witnessed by me |
| 07:24.00 | pacman | Motif was, as best I can remember, the first toolkit to use "Deep Depression Gray" as the default color for all widgets, which since then has become universal |
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| 07:24.22 | mhall | llama32: wxwindows is your best bet imho |
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| 07:24.37 | llama32 | thanks mhall, ill look at it too |
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| 07:25.02 | mooded | hello all.. anybody has experience with using a "ATI Mobility FireGL V3200" with debian / linux in general ? ( does 3d-acceleration work fine ?) |
| 07:25.02 | Horde | so does anyone know about the driver thing? |
| 07:25.03 | jm_ | there's tk too ;) |
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| 07:25.33 | mhall | llama32: if you program a good wx app it will work on UNIX, Linux, OS X, and Windows from the same source code. |
| 07:25.45 | pacman | did horde ask a question? oh, what is a cnf401? |
| 07:25.52 | Horde | its a driver |
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| 07:26.10 | Caelum | I'm trying xorg with a radeon M9, using the radeon driver, and I'm getting massive corruption (except for a full screen rxvt) and glxgears moves slower than it would with software rendering, also getting messages in log like (WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b: 0xf0000000 e: 0xf8000000 correcting |
| 07:26.12 | jm_ | make sure you provide as little details as possible, that way everyone will understand your question |
| 07:26.16 | Horde | for an ethernet card |
| 07:26.18 | simonrvn | pacman: nah, it's more like "fresh concrete" grey than "deep depression". ;p |
| 07:26.29 | mhall | Caelum: hmm that seems a lot like a bug |
| 07:26.41 | simonrvn | indeed it does |
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| 07:26.50 | llama32 | any good C toolkits? |
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| 07:27.13 | mhall | Caelum: try a process of elimination by seeing if it reappears with a different version of the ati driver? |
| 07:27.16 | llama32 | or with C wrappers? (i want to use obj-c, and it doesnt mix with C++) |
| 07:27.25 | mhall | llama32: erm |
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| 07:27.32 | mhall | llama32: that makes things... tricky |
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| 07:27.49 | Caelum | mhall: I do an mtrr correction in an init script, had to do it for XFree and fglrx for mtrr to work at all on this laptop, maybe it screws up xorg. I'll try some stuff |
| 07:27.50 | daniiiiiiiiiii | RX bytes is down and TX is upspeed on interface xyz? |
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| 07:27.53 | Horde | oh and does debian run windows visual C# express edition? |
| 07:27.54 | mhall | llama32: obj-c is not real popular and c is bad for gui programming since there are not objects |
| 07:28.00 | daniiiiiiiiiii | if yes how can i manually set it? |
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| 07:28.10 | mhall | Caelum: ah yeah that's rugged |
| 07:28.12 | lordknow1 | oohhhh |
| 07:28.17 | lordknow1 | i love shine.pdf |
| 07:28.42 | Caelum | Horde: probably in vmware of win4lin |
| 07:28.49 | Knight_Lord | Llama you can always go through the painful path of trying to make your own wrappers to say Qt |
| 07:29.02 | Horde | wikid |
| 07:29.12 | mhall | llama32: what are you trying to develop |
| 07:30.42 | simonrvn | daniiiiiiiiiii: a) can the strange nick b) you don't c) it's not speed, it's number of bytes each way that has passed through that interface |
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| 07:30.59 | mhall | llama32: honestly if you are really serious about writing a good GUI app you probably want to give a thought to mono / Gtk# since you get garbage collection and a more modern programming language |
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| 07:31.07 | llama32 | mhall: i feel like writing an obj-c wrapper around a GUI toolkit, as i like the language, and afaik the only real ways to do GUI programming with it are GNUstep and there is an old gtk1 wrapper |
| 07:31.30 | mhall | llama32: I use traditional C / C++ for everything but I don't do hardly any GUI. |
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| 07:31.42 | llama32 | mhall: no disrespect, but ill stick with obj-c :) |
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| 07:32.02 | mhall | llama32: let me poke around a bit and see if i can at least give you some possible ideas |
| 07:32.25 | daniiiiiiiiiii | aye thx My name is Daniel but all other daniS with less i where binded to some1 else |
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| 07:33.25 | simonrvn | ok. just a bit annoying, no biggie |
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| 07:34.18 | daniiiiiiiiiii | any guesses how I can convince that i have a faster connection? |
| 07:34.23 | mhall | llama32: alright i looked for a while but was not having a whole hell of a lot of luck |
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| 07:34.35 | mhall | llama32: objc is a pretty whacked out obscure language |
| 07:34.47 | mhall | llama32: not going to be a whole lot of libraries, etc for this |
| 07:34.51 | Horde | hang on a minute, would i be able to copy a driver over onto my computer through an external harddrive? |
| 07:34.56 | daniiiiiiiiiii | its like im havin 4K in sites that i know i can have like 200K min |
| 07:35.14 | encompass | where in the conf file is located the dir that my ftp is looking at? is there a default location in Deb.3.1? |
| 07:35.44 | The_Ball | daniiiiiiiiiii, your isp could be strugelling with something |
| 07:35.59 | pacman | you mean the anon ftp root? it's the home directory of the user named "ftp" |
| 07:36.10 | llama32 | mhall: surely theres some plain C ones... |
| 07:36.20 | mhall | llama32: yeah there will be a lot of those |
| 07:36.24 | jm_ | encompass: read the docs for your FTP daemon |
| 07:36.28 | mhall | llama32: but C GUI libraries are not fun |
| 07:36.58 | llama32 | hence a wrapper :) |
| 07:37.04 | Horde | let me re phrase that, is it possible to get a driver form an external hard drive in the prompt part? |
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| 07:38.44 | SJr | Okay so my debian box craslhed |
| 07:38.47 | SJr | I hooked a monitor up to it |
| 07:38.52 | SJr | but couldn't get anything to come on. |
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| 07:39.59 | Caelum | is there an XFT font lister? |
| 07:40.16 | Fleck | help guys, i have partition /dev/sda4 and it says i have no space left, but i can write to it files and delete ... and nothing changes... :( |
| 07:40.27 | jm_ | you mean fontconfig? |
| 07:40.27 | Fleck | i did try chkfs - nothing changed |
| 07:40.51 | mhall | llama32: wrapping them is even less fun |
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| 07:41.22 | nkuttler | Horde: what kind of driver are you talking about? |
| 07:41.32 | mhall | llama32: what about using obj-c modules as backends to python code |
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| 07:41.53 | patricius | do you know any good software showin weather forecasts? |
| 07:41.57 | Caelum | jm_: fc-list | grep work perfectly, thank you :) |
| 07:42.21 | jm_ | Caelum: right, xlsfonts also lists true type fonts if that's what you need |
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| 07:43.09 | mhall | patricius: in what way? |
| 07:43.16 | mhall | patricius: firefox is pretty good at it ;-) |
| 07:43.16 | nkuttler | patricius: try apt-cache search weather |
| 07:43.50 | patricius | mhall : lol |
| 07:43.58 | patricius | nkuttler : ok, thx |
| 07:44.10 | mhall | patricius: but honestly speaking nkuttler was on the right track |
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| 07:44.21 | mhall | patricius: there are gnome and kde gadgets that will do this task for you |
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| 07:45.31 | nkuttler | mhall: one or two handed? |
| 07:45.32 | cast | how many mhall? |
| 07:45.46 | mhall | cast: 15 |
| 07:45.48 | mhall | nkuttler: 2 |
| 07:45.56 | cast | ahh |
| 07:45.58 | mhall | 15 is a lot when you weigh 250 |
| 07:46.02 | cast | lmao |
| 07:46.05 | mhall | trying to get the arm strength up |
| 07:46.07 | patricius | go mhall, go! :] |
| 07:46.11 | joker71 | ok so I fixed my apt-get and now everything I try to get has a million depends, wow talk about frustration |
| 07:46.17 | mhall | it's working but it will take a while |
| 07:46.18 | cast | mhall: you must be pretty strong all things considered.. |
| 07:46.20 | Caelum | jm_: in the ugly X format, was trying to find the names xft recognizes |
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| 07:46.34 | mhall | cast: yeah comes with the territory of being a pretty large guy |
| 07:46.42 | cast | i base the number in a set of pushups i do as twice the number of a pullup set :) |
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| 07:47.03 | nkuttler | mhall: you could be doing squats as well :) |
| 07:47.07 | mhall | cast: but for a while i went out into the working world instead of going to college and i did not exercise enough |
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| 07:47.31 | mhall | nkuttler: legs are already strong just because they're so big and walking is good exercise when you are tall, heh |
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| 07:47.40 | mhall | nkuttler: but arms somewhat fell by the wayside |
| 07:47.42 | nkuttler | erm, right |
| 07:47.57 | nkuttler | is that 250... kilos? |
| 07:48.01 | mhall | so when i get bored i do pushups and already i probably tripled my strength in a few weeks |
| 07:48.05 | mhall | nkuttler: lbs |
| 07:48.18 | mhall | nkuttler: 113 kg |
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| 07:49.10 | cast | mhall: tried doing pullups/chinups?. they're my favourate exercise in the whole world :> |
| 07:49.40 | mhall | cast: yeah my arms are long so the torque is high and makes this very hard |
| 07:49.48 | mhall | cast: so i can't really do those yet |
| 07:50.04 | liable | exercise is way overated.. :P |
| 07:50.05 | mhall | cast: my goal is to get to where i can so that i can get the ultimate exercise possible |
| 07:50.16 | Caelum | mhall: there are machines with weights that help you train for that (the weights counterbalance the pullups) |
| 07:50.20 | litage | how do you ensure that an init script does run before a particular daemon has finished starting and is now running? |
| 07:50.28 | mhall | liable: but heart attacks are more underrated than exercise is overrated |
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| 07:50.34 | Caelum | liable: exercise helps you write better code |
| 07:50.40 | mhall | Caelum: yes and i do use these when able to attend the gym |
| 07:50.44 | liable | mhall: indeed |
| 07:50.44 | cast | mhall: oh no doubt it will be hard. thats why i like them :). pushups/situps take a while - whereas with pullups 99% of the population is dead by 20 |
| 07:50.45 | phperl | hello |
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| 07:50.55 | litage | s/does/doesn't/ |
| 07:50.55 | mhall | Caelum: only problem being that as busy as i am it's hard to get over there enough |
| 07:51.01 | liable | Caelum: i cant do that anyway, so exercise wont help me there :) |
| 07:51.06 | leoboiko | hi. is it normal for a sid with nvidia-kernel module and udev to not have /dev/nvidia* devices? |
| 07:51.07 | nkuttler | litage: man update-rc.d |
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| 07:51.31 | mhall | cast: yes, i'm getting closer to being able to do the start pull and that part is hardest |
| 07:51.42 | mhall | cast: once you can do that the rest is easier |
| 07:51.55 | mhall | cast: probably another month or something |
| 07:52.01 | litage | nkuttler: that only specifies the order in which init scripts are started, but doesn't guarantee that an init script has finished before another starts |
| 07:52.02 | nkuttler | mhall: look into matt furey stuff, but ignore all the marketing speak |
| 07:52.15 | Caelum | mhall: I've been incapacitated with drugs for a year, gained 100lb and couldn't do the simplest exercise, and I used to run 4mi 3 times a week or so, it really sucks. When I get well going to do some trail running training for a nice long backpacking trip... |
| 07:52.39 | mhall | Caelum: what happened |
| 07:52.42 | nkuttler | litage: hm, i always though one has to be fininshed before the next starts |
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| 07:53.15 | liable | nkuttler: me too. |
| 07:53.19 | Caelum | mhall: I went nuts, and had to take antipsychotics, in very high doses. Those drugs are some of the worst torture imaginable |
| 07:53.20 | nkuttler | liable: but? |
| 07:53.29 | liable | but what? |
| 07:53.37 | mhall | Caelum: ! |
| 07:53.47 | nkuttler | erm |
| 07:53.47 | mhall | Caelum: i have some relatives that have this issue |
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| 07:54.00 | mhall | Caelum: what send you down that path to begin with? relationships? |
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| 07:54.35 | mhall | Caelum: my grandmother is schizophrenic, and one of my aunts is paranoid and thinks my mom is out to run her life |
| 07:54.47 | mhall | Caelum: so one day she tried to beat my mom to death |
| 07:54.52 | litage | nkuttler: i'm pretty sure it just ensures the order of starting |
| 07:55.14 | mhall | Caelum: good thing i wasn't there or i'd have given her a discount supersonic 3rd class flight through the front window of our house |
| 07:55.15 | Caelum | mhall: I didn't go quite that nuts. Aside from driving around at 100mph at night a lot and being really stressed out |
| 07:55.22 | mhall | Caelum: ah |
| 07:55.24 | nkuttler | litage: show me where it says that |
| 07:55.40 | leoboiko | xorg isn't seeing the nvidia kernel module in my new amd64 sid :( |
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| 07:56.06 | litage | nkuttler: i haven't found it say that anywhere, it was simply my understanding of how it works |
| 07:56.19 | mhall | you've got to love newegg 100 spindles of ritek dvd+r 8x for 20 bux ea |
| 07:56.25 | nkuttler | litage: my understanding is different and i believe i'm right :) |
| 07:56.27 | mhall | so much space! woot |
| 07:56.28 | Caelum | mhall: antipsychotics are a lot worse on people who aren't schizophrenic. They also make people incredibly hostile to everything, so some people are forced by their shrinks to be even worse basically |
| 07:56.45 | mhall | Caelum: that sux |
| 07:56.57 | mhall | Caelum: so now things are on the level again more or less? |
| 07:57.13 | mhall | i hope i don't inherit the genes that made many of my relatives crazy |
| 07:57.25 | mhall | i'm a really weird guy but luckily still sane, heh |
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| 07:57.35 | Caelum | mhall: they also raise prolactin levels, make everything not fun, make it impossible to think or use linux, or read, or watch tv. Possibly give you diabetes, etc. |
| 07:57.38 | shm | i have a working linux installed on a single partition (/dev/hda6) and i would like to copy this linux i have on another partition that i have free (/dev/hda5), i can't just install it because i don't have the cd's nor the internet to make a netboot install , now can i issue a command like "dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/dev/hda5" , and than just set up lilo ? would that work ? |
| 07:57.41 | mhall | or at least close enough to it to pass off for it in a pinch |
| 07:58.17 | nkuttler | shm: do the partitions have the same size? |
| 07:58.19 | mhall | Caelum: oh, burn! no linux usage? i wouldn't be able to function. honestly, i bank my entire reputation / future income on being a UNIX expert |
| 07:58.20 | Caelum | mhall: it's really tragic that most shrinks are utter morons. Alot of people are treated completely wrongly, when they could be leading happy and productive lives |
| 07:58.27 | shm | nkuttler, nope |
| 07:58.43 | shm | shm, but the linux i have install would fit in size in the second one |
| 07:58.45 | mhall | Caelum: yes i always found it amazing how such highly trained people could be so incompetent |
| 07:58.49 | Caelum | mhall: I started programming at 10, when I couldn't use a computer for months I wanted to jump off a fucking cliff |
| 07:58.55 | nkuttler | shm: not sure then, but otoh as long as you don't damage the original partition |
| 07:59.11 | nkuttler | shm: you may want to google that |
| 07:59.16 | lordknow1 | anyone here use wmtemp? |
| 07:59.31 | lordknow1 | when i run it i get a "could not find a suitable chip" error |
| 07:59.45 | Caelum | mhall: so I'm hoping to get well enough to go back to school to study bioinformatics in the area of neuroscience |
| 07:59.52 | liable | shm: /msg dpkg hard drive upgrade, only follow the relevant bits.. |
| 07:59.59 | mhall | Caelum: best of luck to you with this |
| 08:00.04 | nkuttler | lordknow1: well, wmtemp relies on lm_sensort, so that would need to work first |
| 08:00.10 | Caelum | mhall: thank you :) |
| 08:00.11 | shm | liable, ok :) |
| 08:00.14 | nkuttler | lordknow1: lm_sensors even |
| 08:00.23 | lordknow1 | hehe |
| 08:00.32 | mhall | Caelum: i would hate to see you held back from your dream by something that's supposed to make you better |
| 08:00.41 | lordknow1 | thats not a command is it? |
| 08:00.51 | mhall | Caelum: that would be a sorely supremely dissatisfying irony, the likes of which does not need to exist |
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| 08:00.54 | jm_ | shm: hard disk upgrade howto |
| 08:00.57 | jm_ | mini howto |
| 08:01.09 | shm | ok thank you |
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| 08:01.20 | Xteven | hi |
| 08:01.21 | jm_ | ahh that dpkg's msg is the same thing |
| 08:01.31 | shm | yep |
| 08:01.44 | Xteven | is there any know problem with the snmpd package ? |
| 08:01.53 | Xteven | (I checked bugs.debian.org) |
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| 08:02.52 | nkuttler | Xteven: if you have one that's not on the bts, report it? |
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| 08:03.12 | liable | Xteven: or actually mention the actuall problem.. |
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| 08:03.26 | Xteven | nkuttler : before I do that, I'd like to see if I'm the cause of the problem :) |
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| 08:03.37 | liable | god, i need to go back to school and study engrish. :) |
| 08:03.53 | mhall | does anybody know of a list of really good songs using synthesizers? i'm addicted to the sound of sawtooth synth but cannot find many songs written with it |
| 08:03.54 | Xteven | liable : when I do an snmpwalk, it should about 30 OID's, and then stalls and after a while says connection timed out |
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| 08:04.12 | mhall | Xteven: bust out with ethereal |
| 08:04.29 | Xteven | when I then check the snmpd process, it is running at 100% load and keeps allocating more memory |
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| 08:04.42 | liable | mhall: you mean old school techno or old school 80's music? |
| 08:04.44 | mhall | Xteven: not good |
| 08:04.48 | mhall | liable: either |
| 08:05.14 | mhall | liable: i could not imagine any good google terms, all of my attempts came up with crap |
| 08:05.37 | rhalff | hi is allowing ssh1 clients to with sshd a security risk or not ? |
| 08:05.51 | mhall | rhalff: YES! |
| 08:05.52 | rhalff | s/with// |
| 08:05.52 | bibe | rhalff : yes, sure |
| 08:05.53 | liable | mhall: heres a good stream of some old school techno, its a bit hit and miss, but theres some screaming old tunes there at times.. http://di.fm/mp3/classictechno128k.pls |
| 08:06.17 | rhalff | bibe, mhall ok thanks for the answer :) I assumed it wasn't really |
| 08:06.31 | mhall | liable: ah, i did not know di had a station for this. sweet. |
| 08:07.02 | mhall | liable: btw, is stream ripping legal? i assume it would be for personal use since you can record radio broadcasts with your tape deck and the stations pay royalties |
| 08:07.02 | liable | mhall: streaming it atm :) |
| 08:07.28 | Xteven | I take it noone has the same problem with snmpd ? |
| 08:07.43 | mhall | Xteven: not necessarily |
| 08:07.49 | bibe | rhalff : the problem lies in the ssh1 protocol's weakness: your server can be fully patched but if the ssh1 traffic (and the password) can be easily decrypted... you know the drill |
| 08:07.49 | liable | mhall: i am not up with the whole legalities of it, but i am assuming if its streamed, then i dont see why you cant rip it. |
| 08:08.04 | mhall | Xteven: i'm sure you can imagine that not a whole hell of a lot of people use SNMP |
| 08:08.13 | mhall | Xteven: it's a hardcore network management tool |
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| 08:08.34 | mhall | Xteven: you might consider logging in more in the USA daytime when US-based enterprise type people might be logged in |
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| 08:08.47 | mhall | Xteven: as opposed to 1-4 AM US time like it is right now |
| 08:08.50 | rhalff | bibe, ok thanks didn't know the details :) |
| 08:08.51 | Xteven | mhall : I thought it was pretty commonly used for keeping an eye on your systems through mrtg or cacti and friends |
| 08:09.06 | mhall | Xteven: but dude, that's enterprise / corporate stuff |
| 08:09.10 | jm_ | Xteven: not on Sarge no |
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| 08:09.20 | mhall | Xteven: i've done a lot of shit in my life and never used SNMP for any of it |
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| 08:09.32 | mhall | Xteven: please tell me you understand what i'm trying to say |
| 08:09.35 | Xteven | mhall : what do you use ? |
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| 08:09.44 | jm_ | munin can do that without snmp |
| 08:10.02 | mhall | Xteven: well i never have big enough networks to need snmp / mrtg / etc |
| 08:10.03 | Xteven | munin hm |
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| 08:10.22 | mhall | Xteven: you have to have quite a lot of fancy hp / 3com / juniper / cisco stuff on your network to make that worthwhile |
| 08:10.55 | liberty | it's not that you can COPY the stream (media) it's that if you PUBLISH it you need to have an email address or contact information.. Each Record Company is different. Some like Capital Records don't allow nothing to be published at all. (I only know this cause I got a TV show) |
| 08:11.14 | Xteven | jm_ : thx for the tip, I'll try it |
| 08:11.18 | xzu_ | yoyoyo |
| 08:11.24 | liable | liberty: so ripping it for later personal use, is fine? |
| 08:11.51 | mhall | liable: i think it would be a USA fair use purpose |
| 08:11.58 | liberty | I try to shy away from streams. |
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| 08:12.02 | liable | liberty: what telly show? |
| 08:12.07 | liberty | they're a pain in the arse.. |
| 08:12.10 | mhall | liable: but not every country has fair use, and there is no provision for it in any of the global treaties |
| 08:12.12 | Xteven | mhall : snmpd can be run on any machine, not just networking-hardware |
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| 08:12.33 | mhall | Xteven: Right, but for things besides networking hardware it's not a really useful thing to do. |
| 08:12.38 | liberty | series: SacXtra! |
| 08:13.02 | mhall | Xteven: Anyhow I doubt I can convince you of the point I'm trying to make so I'll pretty much give up. |
| 08:13.19 | liable | mhall: yeah, im in au, they havent gotten to heavy on it yet (it does exist though), so i dont pay too much attention to the whole thing. |
| 08:13.57 | mhall | liable: i've always wanted to come visit .au since i read some hilarious books by an american who went there |
| 08:14.10 | jethro | good morning #debian |
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| 08:14.20 | mhall | liable: one lucky bastard friend of mine got to study abroad in sydney |
| 08:14.25 | liable | mhall: you should, not many americans come here. |
| 08:14.25 | mhall | liable: i hate that sonofabitch |
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| 08:14.44 | mhall | liable: even better, i can get away from all these nutjobs over here! |
| 08:14.47 | cast | ahh australia is nothing special |
| 08:14.53 | liable | hah |
| 08:15.04 | cast | i think particully if your a outdoors kind of person you'll have more fun in nz |
| 08:15.09 | mo1991 | question - if I have the security updates in my apt config and use synaptic to mark all updates - this willl download any new security or updates to sarge correct? |
| 08:15.16 | mhall | cast: Shut up. Any country with a place called Tittybong in it has to be a great country! |
| 08:15.20 | mhall | cast: ;-) |
| 08:15.23 | liable | indeed nz is a very pretty country. |
| 08:15.46 | liable | we have got the most fucked up names for towns.. :) |
| 08:15.49 | mhall | liable: the one thing to watch out for would be not getting run over by a road train |
| 08:16.05 | cast | here [NT] as a general rule you can't go swimming in any natural water bodies. people getting eaten by crocs is hardly worth talking about here :x |
| 08:16.06 | liable | hah, yeah, you dont mess with those guy's.. |
| 08:16.10 | liberty | one other thing... some bands have no record company at all, they control their own music, videos etc. So sometimes they WANT them published. A lot of times I end up buying their album, DVD etc because of it. |
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| 08:16.34 | liable | although the damn wildlife will ruin your day just as quickly.. |
| 08:16.46 | mhall | liable: lol |
| 08:17.00 | mhall | liable: but guns often work against wildlife ;-) |
| 08:17.19 | cast | the best reason to come to au is [honestly] to perv/pickup women. aside from that nz wins on all counts :> |
| 08:18.31 | liable | mhall: no shit, a roo will sit at the side of the road and watch you come along, then, at the last minute it will decide to run in front of you, its like they have a death wish. There pretty solid too, and will generally write your car off if you are doing any descent speed.. |
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| 08:19.13 | liable | i swear they are the stupidest creature i am yet to come across.. |
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| 08:20.03 | Xteven | jm_ : munin seems to be very much what I want :) thx |
| 08:20.09 | liberty | liable, but the most worthless creature is the yellowjacket, they don't polinate flowers and they eat rotten meat and homes. |
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| 08:20.20 | jm_ | Xteven: it's also easy to add custom monitors to it, pretty nice |
| 08:20.25 | mhall | liable: damn, that's hardcore |
| 08:20.39 | mhall | liable: it's a pretty huge creature too |
| 08:20.53 | mhall | liable: it might well write the driver off if you have a streak of bad luck |
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| 08:21.11 | mhall | liable: now, the females and the beer, are these high quality |
| 08:21.19 | liable | mhall: some varieties of em are fucking huge, they have chests like weight lifters. |
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| 08:21.22 | mhall | liable: that's supremely important when choosing a vacationing spot |
| 08:21.37 | liable | mhall: heh, yeah thats always a good point :) |
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| 08:22.01 | mhall | liable: being a young single guy those two points are very high on my agenda |
| 08:22.17 | liable | as they should be :) |
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| 08:23.30 | liberty | that's not a vacation, that's a party spot, a vacation spot is getting away from people, like deep in the mountains, or jungle, or deserted beach -- that's a vacation, if your after women and booze (Got no problem with that personally,) then your actually looking for the best clubs/bars/etc. |
| 08:24.38 | mhall | liberty: well you have to understand the perspective from which i'm coming |
| 08:24.47 | liberty | btw- too bad new orleans is gone.. they had just what you described. |
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| 08:25.24 | mhall | liberty: i'm coming from the perspective of always being constrained by time, academics, and political factors from doing the amount of boozing and womanizing i would do when free to do so much as i'd like |
| 08:25.51 | mhall | liberty: so for me it would be taking a vacation from these menial tasks preventing me from doing the tasks i actually want to be doing |
| 08:25.55 | liable | i dont think our beer is anything to get excited about, girls, well, thats all up to taste, but the generally, we are fairly laid back (depending where in oz you are), and i have some girl friends, that are absolute champs. |
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| 08:26.24 | liberty | mhall, yeah, I hear ya, I have not been on a vacation since 1981, and 1974 before that. |
| 08:26.54 | liable | liberty: holy shit, how can you go that long! |
| 08:27.02 | liberty | 81-hawaii, 74-Guatamala/Costa Rica |
| 08:27.12 | lordknow1 | mmm i need a vacation |
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| 08:27.24 | lordknow1 | i just got off a vacation cause i had my wisdom teeth removed |
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| 08:27.36 | liberty | liable, lots of drugs...lots of vodsky |
| 08:27.44 | liable | liberty: hehe :) |
| 08:27.54 | mhall | ah dysfunctionality |
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| 08:28.00 | mhall | the entity in which i revel |
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| 08:28.08 | mhall | did i mention i'm going to hell? |
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| 08:29.22 | liable | mhall: there is a hell? |
| 08:29.28 | liable | to slow.. |
| 08:29.31 | lordknow1 | yeah there is a hell |
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| 08:29.41 | lordknow1 | it's called windows tech support |
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| 08:29.53 | liable | haha |
| 08:30.18 | liberty | what about datacenter support on weekends? |
| 08:30.24 | lordknow1 | ugh |
| 08:30.25 | lordknow1 | that too |
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| 08:30.41 | lordknow1 | i imagine fedoracore support could suck too |
| 08:30.43 | liable | liberty: what tv show? |
| 08:30.43 | litage | mhall: don't believe liable :) i'm Canadian and living in .au right now and (a) the weather's WICKED, (b) so many of the girls (especially the ones at the beach and out at clubs) are smokin', and (c) there's such a huge backpacking culture here that you can always find people your age to party with |
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| 08:31.05 | lordknow1 | litage Canadian eh? same here |
| 08:31.09 | liberty | at least my religion allows me to change, I guess there really is a hell. |
| 08:31.17 | litage | lordknow1: aye, Toronto |
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| 08:31.25 | liberty | liable, SacXtra! |
| 08:31.32 | lordknow1 | litage oh...one of |
| 08:31.39 | lordknow1 | "thoes" canadian |
| 08:31.44 | litage | hah, you're from Vancouver? |
| 08:31.48 | mhall | litage: you commonwealth wankers can swap countries quicker than an american could swap sex partners |
| 08:31.51 | lordknow1 | ;) |
| 08:31.54 | lordknow1 | yup |
| 08:31.57 | mhall | litage: wish i had that capability |
| 08:32.29 | mhall | litage: though, canadian girls are pretty hot also |
| 08:32.37 | liberty | http://sacxtremetv.com/sacxtra/ (shameless plug) |
| 08:32.46 | litage | mhall: hahahha i like that analogy |
| 08:33.25 | liable | heh |
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| 08:33.54 | mhall | liable: thought you might |
| 08:34.07 | liberty | swapping spit, and other juice, it's what *we* do in america |
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| 08:34.32 | mhall | mmm 52x burner w00t |
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| 08:34.41 | liable | mhall: might what? |
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| 08:34.55 | mhall | liable: thought you might like the analogy |
| 08:34.58 | liable | liberty: your page renders badly in firefox.. |
| 08:35.03 | liable | oh |
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| 08:35.31 | liable | hrm, ok, firefox is having a fit.. |
| 08:35.34 | liberty | liable, it must be the xhtml 1.0 |
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| 08:35.56 | liable | liberty: your page killed firefox! :P |
| 08:36.00 | yen | #hi |
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| 08:36.12 | mhall | liable: hmm seems ok here so far |
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| 08:36.27 | liable | its the tv link one.. |
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| 08:36.37 | liberty | sometimes firefox just dies I noticed that on the last couple versions. |
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| 08:36.49 | mhall | liberty: i might actually be able to watch this |
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| 08:37.01 | yen | opaw kau |
| 08:37.17 | liberty | you'd need Comcast (Sacramento, California) CH 18 |
| 08:37.21 | mhall | liberty: but how you can expect me to believe sacramento and extreme could be associated together in one overarching idea is really quite beyond me |
| 08:37.41 | liable | damn, killed it again.. |
| 08:37.46 | mhall | liberty: yes; i have the dubious distinction of being located in the sacramento cable market |
| 08:37.52 | liberty | Sacxtreme TV - is NOT my show... SacXtra is |
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| 08:37.54 | mhall | liberty: notice my /whois hostmask |
| 08:38.17 | mhall | liberty: ah, good, i'm glad you're not to blame for that particular name ;-) |
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| 08:38.57 | yen | cno taga pinas dito? |
| 08:38.58 | mhall | liberty: where is the enter sacxtra link supposed to go |
| 08:39.05 | mhall | yen: what language? |
| 08:39.17 | liberty | main.php |
| 08:39.35 | yen | tagalog, philippine |
| 08:39.56 | yen | mhall? |
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| 08:40.29 | mhall | !tell me about tagalog |
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| 08:40.43 | yen | ah ok |
| 08:40.51 | liable | yen: you speak any others you prefer to english? dont think theres a channel for philipines.. |
| 08:41.12 | mhall | yen: one second, i will try to get you some help ok |
| 08:41.19 | asperon-work | hi guys, i need some help with pam. I have managed to join my debian box to the domain, and wbinfo etc show the users and groups |
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| 08:41.27 | asperon-work | but somehow i cant get the logins to work |
| 08:41.37 | mhall | yen: Sumali sa #Debian-tl para sa talakayan ng Debian sa wikang tagalog |
| 08:41.50 | asperon-work | do i need to change pam.d? i have tried but i just get nt_status_wrong_password |
| 08:42.25 | mhall | yen: but nobody is there right now |
| 08:42.27 | mhall | yen: one second |
| 08:42.30 | liable | holy shit, there *is* a channel for it.. |
| 08:42.32 | yen | galing mo mhall |
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| 08:43.04 | mhall | liable: but it's entirely empty |
| 08:43.28 | mhall | liable: and there is no debian mailing list |
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| 08:43.38 | yen | hi mhall |
| 08:43.48 | mhall | yen: i tried to find you a debian mailing list to ask your question but there is not a mailing list for tagalog either |
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| 08:44.19 | dahlman_p | hello |
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| 08:44.49 | mhall | yen: i think you should talk to these people here: http://linux.org.ph/ |
| 08:45.06 | mhall | yen: your best bet would be asking your local user group who can explain it to you in your native language |
| 08:45.24 | dahlman_p | I got a dumb question, how could i determine an unmounted disc's filesystem? |
| 08:45.25 | mhall | yen: sorry i could not help you some more |
| 08:45.37 | yen | ah ok tanx |
| 08:45.37 | mhall | dahlman_p: what kind of disk |
| 08:45.44 | dahlman_p | mhall: ide |
| 08:45.47 | mhall | yen: good luck |
| 08:45.56 | mhall | dahlman_p: alright, run fdisk /dev/hd? |
| 08:46.03 | mhall | dahlman_p: then p to print partition table |
| 08:46.09 | mhall | dahlman_p: q to quit with no changes |
| 08:46.16 | dahlman_p | mhall: ok thanks. :) |
| 08:46.37 | mhall | dahlman_p: i had to check what kind of disk because that shit doesn't work insanely great on CDs |
| 08:46.48 | dahlman_p | mhall: ah, ok |
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| 08:47.43 | mhall | dahlman_p: usually though on cds you don't need it |
| 08:47.54 | mhall | dahlman_p: unless some comedian gives you a Mac HFS CD |
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| 08:48.13 | mhall | dahlman_p: in which case you should place it in a railgun and use it as ammo to slice his skull open |
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| 08:48.28 | liberty | and you better have it's module in the kernel |
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| 08:48.45 | mhall | liberty: modprobe railgun |
| 08:49.19 | liberty | railgun 304 0 (unused) |
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| 08:49.29 | mhall | Password: |
| 08:49.45 | mhall | FATAL: Module railgun not found. |
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| 08:50.21 | Fleck | anyone got wma + xmms working on debian? |
| 08:50.23 | mhall | liberty: speaking of which the local national lab invented a gun that can shoot shit from 5 to 8 km per sec |
| 08:50.36 | mhall | liberty: so to show us what this _really_ meant they did a little 'test' |
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| 08:51.04 | liberty | i only have experience with home made cannons |
| 08:51.08 | mhall | liberty: they shot a penny sized copper disc encased in plastic to make it hit parallel to the surface of a two inch think aluminum slab |
| 08:51.11 | liable | fucking mosquitoes.. |
| 08:51.16 | mhall | liberty: and shot at 5 km per sec |
| 08:51.33 | mhall | liberty: and blew out a 3 inch crater through the 2 inch aluminum slab |
| 08:51.39 | mhall | liberty: lol |
| 08:51.45 | dahlman_p | mhall: fdisk says system linux, i mean that could be either ext2 and ext3? |
| 08:51.45 | yen | hi |
| 08:51.53 | liberty | liable, you got west nile? I think I got WNV, and am on the later end of it, still have hella stiff neck for more than 4 months now |
| 08:52.25 | Caelum | dahlman_p: it could be anything, that's just the partition type. Most likely ext2 or ext3, but could be reiser or xfs |
| 08:52.51 | liable | liberty: yeah, i have a mate that got rrv, knocked him for months, i havent got anything yet, which is surprising how much i get attacked.. |
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| 08:53.13 | liberty | mhall, okay, a machined Steel Tube, and Aircraft ball bearings, a lil powder and it goes about two miles. ya also need to anchor it cause it kicks back |
| 08:53.21 | dahlman_p | Ah *bonk* |
| 08:53.26 | liable | 5km/sec? |
| 08:53.31 | jm_ | dahlman_p: tried file on it? |
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| 08:53.57 | liberty | liable, it all depends on your immune system. |
| 08:54.06 | liable | mhall: surely you gest? |
| 08:54.14 | simonrvn | 'jest' |
| 08:54.24 | liberty | it's a virus... the only thing I use to fight virus is oil of oregano |
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| 08:55.11 | liable | simonrvn: theres always one grammer nazi on channel :) |
| 08:55.18 | fireba11 | ^^ |
| 08:55.19 | simonrvn | bah ;p |
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| 08:55.37 | simonrvn | that's spelling, not grammar anyway ;) |
| 08:55.47 | liable | gah! |
| 08:55.49 | mhall | liable: jest wrt which? |
| 08:56.03 | liable | mhall: 5km/s |
| 08:56.08 | mhall | simonrvn: you've proven it |
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| 08:56.10 | liberty | I think there's a plugin for xchat that can cure that. |
| 08:56.15 | mhall | liable: i saw the aluminum slab |
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| 08:56.23 | mhall | liable: it made quite an impression |
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| 08:56.26 | nightrunner | So, I am breaking down and asking for help - I have a MFD printer that's got a media card reader built in. I cna print, in color no less, but the card reader isn't passing card info to my system. I know the card reader works, because the printer can access photos on the media. |
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| 08:56.43 | mhall | liberty: half mass times square velocity = A WHOLE HEAPING FUCKLOAD OF KE IN THAT BULLET |
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| 08:56.58 | liable | !5000*3.3 |
| 08:56.58 | dpkg | 16500 |
| 08:56.59 | nightrunner | I've checked the HOWTOs and the manufacturer's site, no joy. I gotta be missing something, though |
| 08:57.01 | liberty | is that printer on firewire, usb, ppt? |
| 08:57.02 | yen | any one |
| 08:57.11 | nightrunner | it's USB |
| 08:57.14 | liable | ~16,500fps! |
| 08:57.25 | liberty | lsmod check your usb modules? |
| 08:57.36 | nightrunner | and I have a thumb drive that mounts just fine... |
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| 08:57.51 | Shephi | Hello. Im having troubles with my network card. I search on internet and found my network card will work with "tg3" drivers. Can someone explain me how to setup it? |
| 08:57.51 | mhall | liable: apparently you use compressed gas discharge to get it moving |
| 08:58.00 | fireba11 | nightrunner: does it support to use the cardreader to transfer to PC at all ? |
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| 08:58.03 | mhall | liable: then you send it blazing into a railgun |
| 08:58.15 | mhall | liable: at which point shit just goes entirely fucking bat wacko |
| 08:58.18 | nightrunner | The printer? The mgf says it does. |
| 08:58.37 | nightrunner | I haven't tested this functionality on my windows mox, but i tend to trust it |
| 08:58.56 | liberty | mhall, I always wanted a catapult |
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| 08:59.00 | jm_ | Shephi: yes, no doubt someone can |
| 08:59.00 | fireba11 | nightrunner: okay then .. only thought they might nto have added this feature at all .. ^^ |
| 08:59.02 | liable | mhall: funky shit, i saw a discovery show not long ago on this shit, and they had to do it inside a helium atmosphere to cut down on drag.. it was for trains though.. :) |
| 08:59.04 | nightrunner | and it looks like I"ve got all the handy usb modules I need |
| 08:59.16 | Caelum | Shephi: try modprobe tg3 |
| 08:59.51 | liable | mhall: magnetic propulsion, very interesting.. |
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| 09:00.22 | liberty | nightrunner, well, it was worth a try, sometimes those mods are not loaded etc. |
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| 09:01.05 | nightrunner | No, I totally understand. I've spent the last week playing the "you stoopid noob, what did you do" game with myself. And I'm perfectly willing to accept that I've overlooked something important. |
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| 09:01.22 | liable | mhall: i thought a rail gun was simply an electrcally discharged firearm? |
| 09:01.27 | Shephi | Caelum: "Insmod error". modprobe need some parameter? |
| 09:01.32 | nightrunner | For example, the scanner part of the MFD doesn't work, but should. Might be related, but I doubt it. |
| 09:01.34 | fireba11 | liable: nope |
| 09:01.48 | Caelum | mosquitos really do suck (sorry for the pun) if they just bit me I wouldn't care, but they have to wait until you're just about to fall asleep then buzz loudly in your ear |
| 09:02.00 | cast | then you catch ross river virus |
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| 09:02.03 | Caelum | Shephi: did you just type "modprobe tg3" |
| 09:02.24 | fireba11 | liable: they use magnetic proulsion to get their "bullets" to supersonic speeds :-) |
| 09:02.30 | cast | or some random unknown virus, that damages heart tissue in some unknown way - and you end up having a heart attack at 35 while walking down the street |
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| 09:02.42 | jm_ | indeed, that's fucking annoying that buzz sound in the middle of the night when it's all quiet |
| 09:02.53 | liable | fireba11: hrm, bit like the train thing i saw :) |
| 09:03.05 | liberty | nightrunner, hell yeah, sometimes the hardware burns up. for no reason. what OS was the MFD for originally, try vmware on it. |
| 09:03.11 | Caelum | cast: or nasty eukaryotic parasites that are about a few thousand times bigger than a bacteria, some of which are untreatable I think |
| 09:03.20 | liable | its the worst sound *ever* when you are trying to sleep |
| 09:03.27 | Eclipser | is it possible to change keyboard layout with a press of a button from finnish to english and vice versa? |
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| 09:03.44 | Caelum | Eclipser: absolutely |
| 09:03.48 | Eclipser | in any application :) |
| 09:03.56 | cast | Caelum: ahh its great isnt. while im normally against spraying cancer causing chemicals this is one situation where i fully support it |
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| 09:04.01 | mhall | liable: not quite |
| 09:04.03 | fireba11 | liable: so ammunition would be really small .. only you ened a whole heap of juice for it ^^ |
| 09:04.09 | nightrunner | vmware's not a bad idea.... it's designed for Mac/Windows - it's a Brother DCP-110C. Vendor even has linux drivers for download, but terrible documentation |
| 09:04.13 | liable | xbindkeys would be your friend there i guess. |
| 09:04.17 | mhall | liable: a railgun is an eletric gun, not just electrically discharged fun |
| 09:04.20 | Shephi | Caelum: Yes.....im a bit newbie, sorry ^^; |
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| 09:04.47 | mhall | liable: one of my buddies lived in austin tx usa and they have a federally funded railgun research facility |
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| 09:05.13 | Eclipser | Caelum, any pointers on where to look for such feature? |
| 09:05.15 | mhall | liable: every now and then they'd fire a real big shot, and they had to wait until the middle of the night, turn on the power plant to full blast, then it would still cause a brownout |
| 09:05.16 | Caelum | Eclipser: I'm not sure exactly how, but there's an internationalization howto somewhere |
| 09:05.20 | mhall | liable: lol! |
| 09:05.31 | liable | mhall: is it for missiles, and do they do they helium tunnel for it to cut the drag? |
| 09:05.58 | mhall | liable: you're basically creating a big huge short and then with the high electrical flow you generate a huge magnetic field which pushes the object out the end |
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| 09:06.17 | Eclipser | Caelum, thanks I'll look into it |
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| 09:06.39 | liable | hrm, sounds like what i was watching on that discovery program. |
| 09:06.40 | liberty | wasn't the railgun originally a nazi idea |
| 09:06.42 | simonrvn | http://www.cyrusoft.com/ # for those who might give a crap... |
| 09:07.13 | mhall | liable: you cannot really shoot missiles with it |
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| 09:07.29 | mhall | liable: it would blow up the explosive from the white-hot heat / light discharge |
| 09:07.52 | mhall | liable: but i suppose if you were extremely masochist! |
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| 09:07.57 | pifgold | salut |
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| 09:08.07 | pifgold | qqn pourrait m'dire comment on fait un script d'install stylé ncurse |
| 09:08.12 | liable | mhall: hence the helium tunnel they were using for it.. :) no explosives though onboard! |
| 09:08.12 | simonrvn | @fr |
| 09:08.14 | ravenbird | it has been said that fr is France |
| 09:08.15 | pifgold | genre s'k'on a après avoir fait un apt-get install ? |
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| 09:08.18 | mhall | well anyways time for bed for now |
| 09:08.20 | simonrvn | @french |
| 09:08.21 | ravenbird | For help in french, please join #debian-fr. Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr. |
| 09:08.26 | liberty | libncurses? |
| 09:08.27 | mhall | liable: in that case it'd probably be ok |
| 09:08.37 | fireba11 | liable: you should be able to imagine easily that you try to use small bullets since the amount of energy needed would be enourmous otherwise ... just the size of a regular bullet will do and go right trough a tank becase if it's speed it got a huge amount of kinetic energy |
| 09:08.44 | pifgold | scuse for the french... |
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| 09:08.49 | simonrvn | np |
| 09:08.57 | Caelum | Eclipser: even better, www.linux.com/howtos/Finnish-HOWTO/index.shtml |
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| 09:09.02 | liberty | nm |
| 09:09.04 | liable | fireba11: sounds positively frightening! |
| 09:09.04 | pifgold | i'd like to do an install script called after apt-get install for my app |
| 09:09.06 | simonrvn | lingua franca in here is english |
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| 09:09.21 | pifgold | there are some tools to do it on debian, but i cannot recover the name... |
| 09:09.32 | simonrvn | apt-cache search foo bar |
| 09:09.36 | dahlman_p | mhall: Is it common to talk about fire arms in this channel? :) |
| 09:09.36 | simonrvn | or pdo |
| 09:09.37 | simonrvn | @pdo |
| 09:09.38 | ravenbird | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents |
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| 09:09.51 | liable | dahlman_p: no, not generally. |
| 09:10.19 | liable | dahlman_p: but you know how one thing leads to another.. :) |
| 09:10.22 | fireba11 | liable: but it's close to impossible to carry around right now because fo the amount of energy needed .. i think the only mobile prototype is on a nuclear powered battlecruiser or something ^^ |
| 09:10.33 | liable | hah |
| 09:10.52 | Eclipser | Caelum, last time I read finnish howto it didn't have what I wanted... and it seems it still doesn't :) |
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| 09:11.06 | Eclipser | Caelum, googles first internalization howto gave some good hints |
| 09:11.21 | Eclipser | in ter na tio na li za ti on |
| 09:11.37 | simonrvn | um, i think you mean internationalisation # s/s/z/ |
| 09:11.40 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 09:11.48 | liberty | liable, like uh, echo 1 > /usr/bin/railgun |
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| 09:12.13 | fireba11 | liable: so untill someone finds a better energy source that you could use for it they won't be able to really use it anyway |
| 09:12.13 | liberty | liable, hope the capacitors are charged |
| 09:12.16 | simonrvn | /dev/really_powerful_gun |
| 09:12.17 | Shephi | Someone know a good howto modprobe? |
| 09:12.20 | didar | hey guys again |
| 09:12.28 | liable | liberty: no way! i dont want to shoot myself in the nuts! (this is a laptop) |
| 09:12.33 | simonrvn | Shephi: um, man modprobe. no need for a howto... |
| 09:12.48 | didar | ...I'm havin problem authenticating my Sarge box to W2K3 ADS |
| 09:12.55 | Eclipser | simonrvn, hard word :p |
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| 09:12.57 | simonrvn | Shephi: man lsmod too |
| 09:13.02 | Caelum | Shephi: sorry, what error are you getting when you type modprobe tg3 exactly? |
| 09:13.14 | simonrvn | Eclipser: heh |
| 09:13.23 | Eclipser | wasn't there some command to look for duplicate files in linux? |
| 09:13.34 | Eclipser | I seem to recall something like that... |
| 09:13.42 | didar | "find" |
| 09:13.44 | cast | theres one in apt |
| 09:13.57 | cast | fdups or something similar, aptsearch around |
| 09:14.04 | fireba11 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun |
| 09:14.04 | nightrunner | All right, now Deb's just mocking me. I fireed up Kooka to see what's wrong with my scanner - it ASKS me if I want to use that installed scanner, I say "Of course, please do", then it says "your system does not provide a SANE installation"... OK, Ithat's crap, but what the hell... reinstall the scanner driver AND sane and xsane, it STILL tells me I'm ugly and my mama dresses me funny. |
| 09:14.58 | liberty | nightrunner, I had an AFGA scanner - wasn't in the SANE list |
| 09:15.01 | jm_ | ecliptik: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:15.06 | jm_ | Eclipser ^^^^ |
| 09:15.12 | cast | Eclipser: fdupes :> |
| 09:15.18 | liberty | nightrunner, propriatary hardware can be useless |
| 09:15.26 | Shephi | Caelum: "insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters |
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| 09:15.30 | Eclipser | jm_, :p |
| 09:15.43 | liberty | nightrunner, unless you know a reverser |
| 09:16.38 | nightrunner | Hrm... does the brscan2 system provide a scanner program? I haven't looked TOO deep into that.. that's the kind of driver I get from the vendor |
| 09:16.38 | jm_ | Eclipser: really, it's trivial to do apt-cache search duplicate and read those 10 lines |
| 09:17.06 | Eclipser | jm_, indeed, especially when I'm on a windows box and don't have access to a debian one :( |
| 09:17.15 | jm_ | Eclipser: /msg dpkg pdo |
| 09:17.28 | Eclipser | heh |
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| 09:17.30 | liberty | nightrunner, maybe the bugger will run in wine? |
| 09:17.42 | liable | nightrunner: a brother scanner? |
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| 09:17.58 | nightrunner | liable: yeah, it's a brother scanner |
| 09:18.15 | liberty | nightrunner, I give up. |
| 09:18.16 | nightrunner | I just checked sane-project, it's not supported. Guess that'll teach me :) |
| 09:18.21 | liable | nightrunner: you tried there site? i got a deb for mine. |
| 09:18.41 | nightrunner | Tried the brother site? Yeah |
| 09:18.52 | lordknow1 | how do i tar a dir |
| 09:19.01 | lordknow1 | tar -c dir/ ? |
| 09:19.22 | didar | hey, whyis nobody responding to me :(( boooo hooo hooooo |
| 09:20.22 | liable | didar: maybe you didnt actually ask a smart question? |
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| 09:20.36 | liable | !tell didar about smart questions |
| 09:21.32 | liable | didar: or maybe you didnt even ask a question...< didar> ...I'm havin problem authenticating my Sarge box to W2K3 ADS |
| 09:21.57 | Starf^Work | in the list i get from searching hte apt-cache for mysql there is mysql-server and mysql-server-4.1 is 4.1 a beta version or is the version without hte number higher than 4.1 |
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| 09:22.50 | Starf^Work | ie why is there two listed there |
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| 09:23.20 | liable | Starf^Work: try apt-cahe show? |
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| 09:23.35 | Starf^Work | whassat then |
| 09:23.36 | Anthro | I have an APC UPS that has a "data port" that looks like an RJ-45, only bigger. How would I interface with that? |
| 09:23.50 | Starf^Work | ahh |
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| 09:24.25 | fireba11 | Anthro: consult its manual ? |
| 09:24.35 | Starf^Work | why do they have both versions in the stable package list |
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| 09:24.53 | Starf^Work | Anthro, how many pins? |
| 09:24.59 | Anthro | fireba11: Got it used, no manual. |
| 09:24.59 | fireba11 | Starf^Work: because of some major changes |
| 09:25.08 | Starf^Work | k |
| 09:25.12 | fireba11 | Anthro: ah .. tried googling for one ? |
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| 09:25.20 | kikinovak | Hi. I installed a CUPS server on 192.168.1.1, running fine. Now I want to access 192.168.1.1:631 remotely from 192.168.1.2. I added the Allow From 192.168.1 stanza in cupsd.conf, and also BrowseAdress 192.168.1.255. Restarted Cups. But all i get is a Connection Refused. What now? I'm clueless... |
| 09:25.28 | Anthro | fireba11: There's a thought |
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| 09:25.42 | jm_ | !tell kikinovak about connection refused |
| 09:25.49 | liable | !connection refused |
| 09:25.49 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
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| 09:25.55 | liable | !lose me |
| 09:25.56 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 09:26.16 | Starf^Work | !lose liable |
| 09:26.17 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 09:26.19 | clavner | I edited all the apache conf files but I am not able to remove the http redirect to apache2-default |
| 09:26.20 | Starf^Work | lol |
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| 09:26.49 | fireba11 | clavner: there is some .hrtaccess somewhere as far as i know |
| 09:26.56 | fireba11 | .htaccess even |
| 09:27.11 | nightrunner | All right. I cna't handle any more failure tonight. Thanks for the help, y'all. Didn't get me too far, but that's a good thing, It means I prolly havne't pulled another lam3r stunt |
| 09:27.13 | jm_ | I guess he was offended by receiving so much text from dpkg |
| 09:27.14 | nightrunner | Peace! |
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| 09:27.37 | Anthro | Starf^Work: Look like 12 or so wires. Hard to count since they are all in a row and it's under my desk. |
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| 09:28.28 | Starf^Work | might be a custom lead that comes with the unit |
| 09:29.21 | didar | oh ok.... |
| 09:29.26 | didar | Lemme try again |
| 09:29.43 | fireba11 | Anthro sounds like a non-standard port you need an adapter to serial or something for |
| 09:29.43 | didar | I have setup Winbind on my Sarge |
| 09:30.00 | didar | I have apt-get'd krb5-config |
| 09:30.12 | clavner | ok is there any way I can get shell access to a pc on my network which is running debian |
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| 09:30.13 | didar | edited smb.conf and krb5.conf |
| 09:30.26 | Starf^Work | mysql is deader than os/2 |
| 09:30.34 | Starf^Work | the irc channel that is |
| 09:30.37 | didar | Srage got added to the ADS as host |
| 09:30.43 | didar | but, wbinfo fails |
| 09:30.44 | tonix | hi guys, is there a way to confining users to their home directory with ssh? thanks a lot |
| 09:30.52 | fireba11 | Starf^Work: yes .. usually no one active there .. |
| 09:31.07 | jm_ | !tell tonix -about ssh chroot |
| 09:31.12 | Starf^Work | guess its off to the website for a change list |
| 09:31.12 | liable | didar: sorry for having a go at you again, but if you use punctuation, you can put it all on one line, and its easier for us to read. :) |
| 09:31.33 | fireba11 | Starf^Work: what you want to know ? |
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| 09:31.50 | didar | oh ok, bad habits picked up over IM ;) |
| 09:32.13 | fireba11 | Anthro: ah well . . soem companys don#t get rid of the habbit to make incompatible ports ... |
| 09:32.19 | Knight_Lord | didar i have the same problem |
| 09:32.40 | Starf^Work | what the main differences are between 4.0 and 4.1 as i am about to install it fro use with phpbb and zencart (oscommerce based) |
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| 09:32.50 | liable | didar: this can be a busy channel at times, and trying to keep up becomes very hard ;) |
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| 09:33.05 | jm_ | Starf^Work: go to the mysql web page and read |
| 09:33.22 | jm_ | I have a feeling you should stay away from this, because you have no idea what you're doing |
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| 09:33.32 | Starf^Work | jm_, i am, but fireba11 asked what i wanted to know.... |
| 09:33.45 | Starf^Work | jm_, excuse me? is that comment directed at me? |
| 09:34.24 | jm_ | Starf^Work: right, ignore that comment - I thought it was a question for us |
| 09:34.34 | Starf^Work | ok fair enough |
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| 09:36.52 | didar | I apt-get'd Winbind, krb5-config. Edited smb.conf and added/changed WORKGROUP, IDMAP UID/GID, REALM, PASSWORD SERVER, SECURITY = ADS in smb.conf "debconf" asked the question about the default Domain/realm/admin_server which I entered. I also had to edit krb5.conf to add [domain_realm] entries. Aftre which a windbind restart. "net ads join -W <workgroup> -S <pdc/kdc/ads-server> -U Administrator worked flawlessly. But, usgin wbinfo -a <user>%<pass> failed |
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| 09:41.00 | didar | This is the error I get after issuing `wbinfo -a someuser%herpasswd' "plaintext password authentication failed |
| 09:41.00 | didar | Could not authenticate user didar%radid with plaintext password |
| 09:41.00 | didar | could not obtain winbind separator! |
| 09:41.00 | didar | could not obtain winbind domain name! |
| 09:41.00 | didar | challenge/response password authentication failed |
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| 09:41.23 | fireba11 | Starf^Work: as far as i know they change auth to the database .. so some old tools won't connect anymore to 4.1 |
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| 09:41.44 | Starf^Work | shouldnt affect things like phpbb and zencart tho? |
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| 09:42.53 | Starf^Work | think my mirror has just died |
| 09:43.02 | liable | didar: nt wont aloow plain text passwords. i dunno anything else about your issue, but i remeber that about samba/windows. |
| 09:43.02 | Starf^Work | anyone use demon's ftp? |
| 09:43.16 | Starf^Work | bloody samba |
| 09:43.45 | didar | I did set "encrypt passwords =yes" and "winbind use default domain = yes" |
| 09:44.03 | didar | Starf^Work: it should read "bloody Windows" :)) |
| 09:44.07 | liable | didar: try #samba, its often not busy, but worth a go. |
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| 09:44.13 | Starf^Work | didar: you trying to get it to talk to a server or the AD |
| 09:44.17 | BertoX | hi |
| 09:44.23 | BertoX | need help with aptitude plz |
| 09:44.25 | didar | hmmm....actually, it worked on RHEL3 |
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| 09:44.40 | BertoX | i'm trying to use "deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors1/volatile.debian.net/ sarge/volatile main" |
| 09:44.44 | didar | ...but, not on my first love Debian |
| 09:44.54 | Starf^Work | what i ended up doing was setting allow for guest user and setting the guest user as root |
| 09:44.57 | BertoX | then i got this error : " Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org sarge/volatile/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp2.de.debian.org_debian-volatile_dists_sarge_volatile_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)" |
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| 09:45.08 | Starf^Work | works a treat but not much security |
| 09:45.17 | BertoX | someone would help me plz ? |
| 09:45.18 | jm_ | BertoX: that's not an official entry, talk to them |
| 09:45.21 | didar | Starf^Work: basically I want to get username/password from ADS |
| 09:45.32 | Starf^Work | good luck |
| 09:45.44 | Starf^Work | never EVER managed to get that working |
| 09:45.45 | didar | Starf^Work: LOL |
| 09:45.52 | BertoX | i know but i need it. And packages are on the ftp |
| 09:46.00 | BertoX | and i'm not an aptitude warlordz :( |
| 09:46.03 | Loevborg | I want to backup a directory (say, /etc) to a tar file on a remote ssh host, without making a temp file (readonly fs!). How do I do this properly? |
| 09:46.04 | Starf^Work | i run a windows ad domain network setup at home |
| 09:46.20 | Starf^Work | spent a whole weekend on it and just gave up |
| 09:46.30 | jm_ | Loevborg: tar to stdout and redirect it to a local file |
| 09:46.36 | jethro | !pal Starf^Work |
| 09:46.43 | Starf^Work | jethro, lol |
| 09:46.46 | Loevborg | like so, jm_? ssh thehost tar cj /etc > bup.tar.bz2 |
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| 09:46.51 | BertoX | which file aptitude tries to download when i user aptitude update ? |
| 09:47.02 | Loevborg | jm_, when I unpack that archive, I get "garbage at the end of ..." |
| 09:47.09 | Starf^Work | jethro, you can get the samba server to authenticate via an active directory domain controller? |
| 09:47.23 | Loevborg | jm_, the data seems to be alright, but the warning sounds suspicious |
| 09:47.28 | jethro | Starf^Work: yes |
| 09:47.30 | azeem | BertoX: Packages.gz |
| 09:47.37 | Starf^Work | may i chat? |
| 09:47.44 | jethro | Starf^Work: I even got nss_ldap to authenticate users to an ADS |
| 09:47.47 | didar | The thing is it worked on the RHEL3 installation |
| 09:47.54 | Starf^Work | as this isnt a samba channel |
| 09:48.16 | jm_ | Loevborg: it's not bz2 |
| 09:48.19 | jethro | Starf^Work: you'd better join #ldap or #samba |
| 09:48.25 | didar | I think I'm missing some kerberos stuff |
| 09:48.35 | didar | yeah ok...next stop #samba |
| 09:48.44 | Loevborg | jm_, "j" = bzip2 |
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| 09:48.57 | didar | see ya all....thanks for the advice all of you ... later |
| 09:49.04 | Starf^Work | jethro, you aint in eitehr tho |
| 09:49.14 | jm_ | Loevborg: verify with file if it is |
| 09:49.18 | Starf^Work | and demon's mirror is dead |
| 09:49.24 | Starf^Work | well 13k a sec |
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| 09:49.36 | Loevborg | jm_, hm good idea |
| 09:49.41 | jethro | Starf^Work: I'm not the only one who did it I think, so I don't *have* to be there |
| 09:49.41 | nixsys | Sorry, i have questio about 2.6.8 & serial port. Where about it possible ask? |
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| 09:50.10 | llama32 | anyone know of a useful, relatively understandable X toolkit written in C (not C++), or simple file manager with icon view (ie not just list)? |
| 09:50.15 | liberty | Loevborg, I do backups like so, either tar -cf <filename.tar> * OR mkisofs -r -J -o new.iso dir_of_da_data_you_want_to_make_an_iso_of/ |
| 09:50.17 | Starf^Work | k can you send me your smb.conf? |
| 09:50.27 | Starf^Work | so i can work it out |
| 09:51.12 | Loevborg | liberty, yes, but I can't write to the local disk |
| 09:51.37 | liberty | user belong to wheel? |
| 09:51.48 | jm_ | nixsys: /msg dpkg ask |
| 09:51.49 | liberty | and disks/disk or wtf they call it |
| 09:52.03 | Loevborg | jm_ when verifying, I get "bzip2: (stdin): trailing garbage after EOF ignored" |
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| 09:52.36 | Starf^Work | jethro: k can you send me your smb.conf? |
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| 09:53.17 | nixsys | sorry, what is /msg? |
| 09:53.22 | jethro | Starf^Work: not at the moment, no. |
| 09:53.56 | jm_ | Loevborg: so check what gets added at the end then |
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| 09:54.47 | llama32 | does Qt have a plain C wrapper? |
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| 09:55.13 | liberty | well, Loevborg sounds like you need an external nfs, or some kind of share or NAS or filesystem on a lan you can //machine:/dir/filename.[tar/iso] |
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| 09:55.37 | Knight_Lord | llama32 afraid not |
| 09:55.38 | liberty | or permissions to the partition |
| 09:56.09 | liberty | or sdx (Scsi Burner) device |
| 09:56.09 | Loevborg | liberty, it's just a tar+console-redirection problem I guess |
| 09:56.24 | Knight_Lord | llama32 but you can program the interface in qt and make a C wrapper to your big GUI class so you can call it from obj c |
| 09:56.36 | liberty | experiment with touch test.txt && cp <target> |
| 09:56.48 | Loevborg | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=282116 |
| 09:57.04 | lestest | where do I find some document on developing localized software? |
| 09:57.12 | liberty | once the <target> has test.txt you know you can mkisofs, or tar, gunzip etc. |
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| 09:58.05 | liberty | either that or gain permissions to write to disk |
| 09:58.09 | Loevborg | it works with gzip, btw, so I'll use that |
| 09:58.16 | Loevborg | liberty, broken fs! |
| 09:58.27 | jm_ | Loevborg: weird stuff |
| 09:58.28 | lordknow1 | is the kill command wont kill aq process |
| 09:58.32 | lordknow1 | whats a meaner thing to do? |
| 09:58.33 | liberty | harddisk going out? |
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| 09:58.58 | liberty | that just happened to me on a UNIX sys V scsi box.. |
| 09:59.14 | Starf^Work | jethro, meh |
| 09:59.16 | liberty | 35% then media crapped out totally |
| 09:59.34 | jm_ | Loevborg: or just pipe it through local bzip2 |
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| 09:59.59 | doleyb | llama32: there is gtk of course, but its not simple, why aren't you allowed c++? |
| 10:00.00 | nkuttler | lordknow1: kill it's parent? |
| 10:00.03 | llama32 | Knight_Lord: i found a C wrapper, but it may be old... im going to learn C++ anyway :) |
| 10:00.06 | bobslaede | i have got myself a problem with my newly aquired usb modem... I have installed the smartlink drivers, and loaded the modules, but the modem is located at /proc/usb/003/009 and it should (for what i have figured out) be in /dev/ttyACM* or /dev/slusb* according to the smartlink daemon... none of these will however be recognized as my modem... What am i missing in getting the modem in my /dev/_ |
| 10:00.13 | bobslaede | ? |
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| 10:00.13 | lordknow1 | i can't find a parent |
| 10:00.23 | lordknow1 | kill -HUP wont kill it |
| 10:00.26 | lordknow1 | its a crashed game |
| 10:00.28 | lordknow1 | neverputt |
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| 10:00.39 | Loevborg | jm_, gzip is okay |
| 10:00.40 | liberty | killall -9 |
| 10:00.41 | Shephi | "Unresolved symbol release_firmware_R33934162", someone know wtf is that? |
| 10:00.41 | llama32 | doleyb: i was hoping to use objective C, which cannot call C++ stuff (except in GCC4, but id really rather not bother downloading it) |
| 10:00.54 | nixsys | tcgetattr and cfget0speed return error "inapropriate ioctl error". Where i make error? |
| 10:00.55 | guideX | anyone know how to alter my video adapter? or which file i can edit |
| 10:01.28 | liberty | -HUP restarts it |
| 10:01.35 | liberty | -9 ends it |
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| 10:02.14 | Shephi | some can help me about why "modprobe tg3" dont work? ._. |
| 10:02.44 | nkuttler | oops |
| 10:02.51 | liberty | Shephi, what's tg3? |
| 10:02.53 | doleyb | Shephi: maybe, first you must explain what "dont work" mean |
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| 10:03.49 | doleyb | llama32: a look at gtk, b ask #c |
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| 10:04.57 | llama32 | doleyb: ive given in, im gonna learn ++ |
| 10:05.32 | Shephi | im having trouble with network card, ir wont work, led dont on and nextwork dont work. I search on internet and find need to load driver tg3 to my network card, but modprobe tg3 dont work |
| 10:05.34 | doleyb | ok um, you know its real easy in debian to get gcc4 |
| 10:05.51 | doleyb | Shephi: and how do you know "modprobe tg3" dont work? |
| 10:06.15 | Shephi | "Unresolved symbol release_firmware_R33934162" |
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| 10:07.05 | liberty | Shephi, not to be rude but did you search http://www.google.com/search?q=modprobe+tg3 |
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| 10:07.24 | liable | Shephi: and you have the firmware downloaded, and in the right dir? |
| 10:07.37 | guideX | sephi which network card |
| 10:07.43 | liberty | Shephi, I dunno what it is but it *sounds* like a realtek card |
| 10:08.29 | guideX | funny i just got my wireless card working but there's no lights heh |
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| 10:08.46 | darkera | is it in managed mode? |
| 10:08.49 | guideX | well there's a light, but it doesn't light up.. brand new out of the box, works fine otherwise though |
| 10:08.50 | guideX | yeah |
| 10:08.51 | Shephi | liberty: no, i have Broadcom.....debian get it ok, but not work |
| 10:08.54 | Starf^Work | whats the chances of mysql5 coming to stable any time soon? |
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| 10:09.30 | darkera | guideX: hmmm broken led ? =P that's weird |
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| 10:09.41 | guideX | very |
| 10:09.45 | liberty | Shephi does it need a kernel compiled with it |
| 10:09.45 | Shephi | liberty: yeah, i use google, but modprobe fail me all time and dont find good info >_> |
| 10:09.55 | guideX | it's a linksys wmp54gs |
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| 10:10.10 | liable | Shephi: what kernel? |
| 10:10.14 | guideX | it was hard to get working too |
| 10:10.33 | guideX | someone (like me) should really develop something that makes linux wifi easier |
| 10:10.37 | bobslaede | does some of you guys have any experience with usb modems? |
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| 10:10.52 | liable | guideX: go your hardest!.. |
| 10:10.54 | Shephi | liable: debian 3.1 sarge, not sure about kernel version..... |
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| 10:11.03 | liable | Shephi: uname -r |
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| 10:11.36 | Tortel | :o |
| 10:11.40 | Tortel | im using 2.4! |
| 10:11.47 | Tortel | isnt there a 2.6? |
| 10:11.50 | Shephi | 2.4.27-2-686 |
| 10:11.51 | liable | Shephi: and give us the lspci line for that card. |
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| 10:12.04 | liberty | Shephi, I am looking in 2.4.27 I use that too (Sarge) |
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| 10:12.37 | liable | Tortel: no, debian is working on being stable, we dont use 2.6! :P |
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| 10:12.38 | Shephi | Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02) |
| 10:12.49 | liberty | I never heard of Broadcom, got a *SPECIFIC* (like look at the card physically) model number on that card? |
| 10:12.55 | Tortel | aah, ok |
| 10:13.16 | liberty | is it 100MB or 1000MB or what |
| 10:13.22 | Shephi | 10/100 |
| 10:13.23 | liberty | or 10MB |
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| 10:13.27 | liberty | ahh. |
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| 10:13.40 | Mars|Top | hey, does anyone know if vpnc can tunnel over tcp? |
| 10:13.49 | Shephi | and it work properly, i have wind on same computer too |
| 10:13.57 | Shephi | windows* |
| 10:13.58 | guideX | is it normal for your desktop icons to disapear whenever you use mozilla, or epiphemy? |
| 10:13.59 | liberty | is it ISA? |
| 10:14.02 | liable | Tortel: err, that was sarcasm... :P |
| 10:14.08 | liberty | or PCI? |
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| 10:14.19 | Tortel | :o |
| 10:14.34 | liberty | the broadcom card is it ISA or PCI? |
| 10:14.44 | Shephi | liberty: i think PCI, but not sure |
| 10:14.47 | guideX | pci |
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| 10:14.52 | liable | !tell Tortel about reference |
| 10:14.53 | guideX | there aren't isa broadcom cards |
| 10:15.12 | guideX | or if there are, not many were made |
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| 10:16.37 | liberty | Shephi, you compiled tg3 driver as kernel-module? |
| 10:16.39 | Shephi | confirmed, PCI card |
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| 10:16.49 | liable | Shephi: um, where did you read about that module, google says b44 driver.. |
| 10:16.56 | nixsys | Why tcgetattr and fcget0speed remove from 2.6.8? What new functions? |
| 10:17.04 | Mars|Top | How does one create a IPsec tunnel over TCP? |
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| 10:17.11 | jm_ | nixsys: they weren't removed |
| 10:17.13 | cast | Mars|Top: by reading. |
| 10:17.17 | Starf^Work | lol installation complete message for firefox package: "Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems" |
| 10:17.19 | Starf^Work | lol |
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| 10:17.41 | jethro | !lol |
| 10:17.42 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 10:17.42 | Shephi | liable: not sure, im check a lot of pages during a long time |
| 10:17.44 | Mars|Top | cast: Any suggestions where? I am trying to use vpn tunnelled via TCP. |
| 10:18.06 | Shephi | liberty: not compiled kernet yet, im noob to try it >_< |
| 10:18.07 | jethro | what happened to losers on line? |
| 10:18.15 | liable | Shephi: read... http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=linux+Broadcom+Corporation+BCM4401-B0+100Base-TX+&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
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| 10:18.37 | jethro | ah right, must be part of the new policy enforced |
| 10:18.38 | liable | jethro: we are loser friendly now! |
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| 10:18.46 | Shephi | liable: first link? |
| 10:18.59 | liable | Shephi: *any* link.... |
| 10:19.03 | liberty | liable, do you know wtf kind of ethernet card/hardware model Shephi is talking about? |
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| 10:19.14 | liable | liberty: check the link |
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| 10:19.20 | Starf^Work | jethro, i contest that I have used lol since nov 1996 |
| 10:19.23 | llama32 | anyone know if knoppix 3.7 has KDE/Qt development tools, headers, etc? |
| 10:19.32 | liberty | yank the card out and read the model number heh j/k |
| 10:19.34 | Starf^Work | now hand over the smb.conf file or the puppy gets it |
| 10:19.53 | liberty | Shephi, do not do that yet ^^^ |
| 10:19.58 | jm_ | Llama: yes, some people do |
| 10:20.01 | doleyb | llama32: very unlikely for knoppix to include anything for devel |
| 10:20.12 | Shephi | doing... |
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| 10:20.22 | doleyb | unless you mean the knoppix dvd of course |
| 10:20.29 | jethro | liable: for some definitions of friendly, yes... I've read some people enforcing this policy behave like idiots, which is not going to help debian in being popular either.. |
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| 10:20.39 | llama32 | damn, ill check the site |
| 10:20.43 | Starf^Work | why has my /var/www dir got a root:root owner:group ? |
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| 10:20.55 | llama32 | i think i remember seeing kdevelop, but im not sure |
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| 10:20.58 | cast | Mars|Top: only book i have that deals with it is secure arch's with obsd, but thats going to be fairly useless to you :\ |
| 10:21.02 | liable | jethro: talking to the converted.. :P |
| 10:21.04 | nixsys | please, give me reference to doc. Where describe about problem /dev/ttyS0, tcgetattr and "inapropriate ioctl for device" |
| 10:21.10 | jethro | liable: I know :) |
| 10:21.30 | jim | nixsys: google is usually helpful in that area |
| 10:21.39 | Shephi | liable: some pages there talking about kernel 2.6.... |
| 10:21.47 | liable | jethro: good, wasnt sure if you understood what i meant (the language barrier thing) :) |
| 10:22.10 | liable | Shephi: so get 2.6! |
| 10:22.10 | jm_ | nixsys: that means the driver handling /dev/ttyS0 doesn't suport such operations |
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| 10:22.36 | jethro | liable: are you saying I can't read english and understand? :) you deserve a lart my friend! |
| 10:22.36 | liberty | I see a Broadcom 4400 ethernet support (EXPERIMENTAL) is that it? |
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| 10:22.49 | liberty | in kernel 2.4.27 |
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| 10:23.03 | liberty | i'd try it. |
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| 10:23.09 | jim | could also mean the driver might support such operations but compiletime options caused them to be left out |
| 10:23.36 | jim | but... enough guessing game :P |
| 10:24.02 | Mortalman | Seems DAL died. |
| 10:24.09 | lestest | anybody can tell me the difference betweena a managed and an unmanaged switch? |
| 10:24.21 | Starf^Work | why has my /var/www dir got a root:root owner:group ? |
| 10:24.26 | Starf^Work | instead of www-data |
| 10:24.29 | fireba11 | lestest: hu ? |
| 10:24.39 | nixsys | When 2.4.27 not support too. |
| 10:24.41 | liable | jethro: haha, no! just wasnt sure if you understood that particular expression! being an ozzie, we come up with a few that dont make sense to other people, including those that speak engrish natively. wasnt having a go! :P |
| 10:24.44 | jethro | lestest: the managed swith has a management interface, and the unmanaged doesn't? |
| 10:24.51 | jim | lestest: probably a managed switch can do snmp reporting and responding |
| 10:25.03 | fireba11 | lestest: easy .. managed got couple options you can set up via web interface .. like port duplication etc. |
| 10:25.05 | jethro | @annoy liable |
| 10:25.07 | ravenbird | liable: PLZ!!!!! ANSWER!!!! PLZ!!!!! |
| 10:25.08 | Shephi | liable: better if find another solution without changing kernel hehe ^^ |
| 10:25.53 | lestest | thankz fireba11 jethro jim |
| 10:26.03 | liable | Shephi: sure, google.com.. |
| 10:26.17 | nixsys | Kernel documentation not describe problem serial driver and ioctl command for tcgetattr :( |
| 10:26.24 | liable | ravenbird: i just answered! |
| 10:26.25 | ravenbird | liable: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 10:26.45 | liable | @stupid bot |
| 10:26.45 | liberty | Shephi, download a kernel-source and find (on google) a Kernel HOW-TO; potentially you might need to upgrade to a 2.6x kernel I see a 4400 in 2.4.27. |
| 10:26.46 | ravenbird | No, stupid user. |
| 10:26.55 | jim | nixsys: maybe the kernel source for that driver does... THeo wrote it |
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| 10:27.10 | jim | tytso |
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| 10:27.43 | liable | !confuse jethro |
| 10:27.44 | dpkg | No, what is your hamster tomorrow, jethro? shirts of the monarchy of liechtenstein with extra anchovies |
| 10:27.46 | jim | @stupid user |
| 10:27.47 | ravenbird | Yes, always stupid user. |
| 10:27.52 | nixsys | I must ask question to THeo? |
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| 10:28.05 | jim | no, but that is one option |
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| 10:28.20 | Shephi | im reading some pages that said driver b44.....modprobe work with it.... |
| 10:28.35 | jim | I think he's tytso@mit.edu or tytso@alum.mit.edu |
| 10:28.39 | jim | not sure |
| 10:28.45 | cyzie | hi guys, any idea how to grep a string in a *.gz file? |
| 10:28.56 | jethro | cyzie: zgrep |
| 10:28.56 | Shephi | what command to restart network card? |
| 10:29.00 | jm_ | I have many ideas |
| 10:29.02 | llama32 | omg, apparently there is even an objective C binder for qt! |
| 10:29.06 | jim | cyzie: do you know about char streams? |
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| 10:29.29 | jim | cyzie: aka, have you used unix much? :) |
| 10:29.29 | cyzie | jim, what about char streams? |
| 10:29.39 | Starf^Work | anyone at all? |
| 10:29.39 | jethro | cyzie: or zcat foo.gz | grep if you feel like you *have* to use grep |
| 10:29.40 | liberty | I don't have the card (hardware) in hand or I'd try it over and over till it works. Meantime if you got a piece of CRAP network card, try that.. ex: modprobe ne io=0x300 |
| 10:29.49 | Starf^Work | why has my /var/www dir got a root:root owner:group instead of www-data:www-data ? |
| 10:29.50 | liberty | ^ Shephi |
| 10:29.58 | jm_ | Starf^Work: because |
| 10:30.07 | cyzie | thanks jethro ! |
| 10:30.14 | jethro | Starf^Work: to prevent defacement if www-data is compromised (by exploiting a webapp) |
| 10:30.31 | cast | ha. thats a good idea |
| 10:30.32 | jethro | Starf^Work: DocumentRoot being owned by root:root is always a good idea, unless you're insane |
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| 10:30.38 | flodine | can i upgrade sarge to kernel 2.6.12 with apt? |
| 10:30.52 | jethro | cyzie: you're welcome |
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| 10:31.00 | Sunblade | flodine: try using the kernel-package for this |
| 10:31.01 | cast | my -R /var/www isn't owned by www-data..but not for reasons of security |
| 10:31.02 | jim | flodine: maybe... but you could get the .deb and try installing that |
| 10:31.03 | liberty | Shephi, I aam gonna give up on trying more options |
| 10:31.08 | liable | flodine: no |
| 10:31.12 | Starf^Work | jethro, i cant copy files into as the normal system user though and have to log into the kde as root |
| 10:31.22 | jethro | !tell Starf^Work -about sudo |
| 10:31.50 | jethro | !tell Starf^Work -about root |
| 10:31.52 | flodine | why is the kernel so old |
| 10:31.59 | liable | haha |
| 10:32.00 | Shephi | modprobe ne io=0x300?? ok, i will try |
| 10:32.01 | jim | sarge was released |
| 10:32.08 | liable | !irritate flodine |
| 10:32.08 | dpkg | flodine: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses gnome ???/ |
| 10:32.11 | jethro | liable: why is teh debina so old?!!//?? |
| 10:32.20 | liable | :) |
| 10:32.43 | flodine | im just trying to understand thats all |
| 10:32.59 | jim | sarge won't have any new versions of anything (officially) because it was released as stable. ponder for a moment how that would help make a system stable... |
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| 10:33.08 | jethro | Starf^Work: what are you planning on doing? log into the kde as www-data, once you chown /var/www ? |
| 10:33.16 | bady_ | hi |
| 10:33.38 | Shephi | liberty: "Scanning for PnP cards....No P&P device foud" :( |
| 10:33.53 | BertoX | i don't understand error giben by aptitude cause Packages.gz exists and path is okay |
| 10:34.01 | liberty | Shephi, then CHANGE the ethernet card to something like a 3COM card that is in the kernel by default -- even if you DONT recompile another kernel you should still download the source you use and LEARN what it can do |
| 10:34.09 | cyzie | mmm jethro it said doesnt have .gz.Z file |
| 10:34.23 | bady_ | Hey guys I`m just compiling my first kernel after booting it just a couple mins ago I got a kernel panic: VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 10:34.23 | jethro | cyzie: are you on debian? |
| 10:34.26 | liable | flodine: by old, you mean it doesnt do what you need, or you just want to keep up with the jonse's? |
| 10:34.38 | cyzie | jethro, why is it it append .Z in the file? becuase i do this, zcat *.gz | grep -i blah |
| 10:34.41 | bady_ | could it be the initrd? |
| 10:34.44 | liberty | cards are DIRT^ cheap, and you can learn WHICH are in by the .config files |
| 10:34.46 | BertoX | does ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors1/volatile.debian.net/dists/stable/volatile/main/binary-i386/Packages means an entry like deb "ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors1/volatile.debian.net/ stable/volatile main" in source.list ? |
| 10:34.52 | jim | BertoX: ok |
| 10:34.53 | cyzie | jethro, now, yes, but i need to grep in solaris |
| 10:34.57 | bady_ | or the devfs? |
| 10:35.26 | jethro | cyzie: then ask #solaris, or use gnu zcat/grep |
| 10:35.28 | flodine | sorry guys i like the kernel runs good just wanted to know |
| 10:35.28 | BertoX | (without '"') |
| 10:35.36 | jim | dists shows you where the break is |
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| 10:35.37 | liberty | I could pick up aluminum cans and cash em in and buy a network card. |
| 10:35.50 | BertoX | ? |
| 10:35.54 | liberty | better yet drink the beer |
| 10:36.09 | jim | ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors1/volatile.debian.net/ is your mirror |
| 10:36.13 | Guerin | liberty: or you could just go and buy a rlt8139 for $3 |
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| 10:36.16 | BertoX | yep |
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| 10:36.40 | jethro | cyzie: well actually, just go for #solaris. using gnu userland on solaris isn't supported in #debian either |
| 10:36.40 | BertoX | but i must specify mirrors1/volatile.debian.net ? |
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| 10:36.53 | jim | stable/volatile main |
| 10:36.55 | Shephi | liberty:cant change it, its portatil, cant open it >_> |
| 10:36.57 | Starf^Work | jethro: no add the user to the www-data group so it had write access |
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| 10:37.16 | Starf^Work | jethro, dont want to add the user to the root group really |
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| 10:37.20 | jethro | Starf^Work: it's as stupid as mapping the guest user to root, as you said you did earlier |
| 10:37.24 | jim | BertoX: of course... otherwise it won['t find it :) |
| 10:37.32 | Starf^Work | and my other installation automatically had www owned by www-data |
| 10:37.35 | BertoX | i agree |
| 10:37.36 | Shephi | ;; |
| 10:37.42 | BertoX | but it doesn't work :( |
| 10:37.43 | litage | syslog is set to write to a pipe. since syslog starts very early on, nothing is reading from the pipe yet. later on, mysql starts reading from the pipe, but by that time, it seems as though syslog isn't bothering to write to the pipe anymore. might you have any ideas as to how to solve this? |
| 10:37.44 | Starf^Work | jethro, ONLY in the smb.conf |
| 10:37.48 | Starf^Work | :P |
| 10:37.50 | liable | BertoX: google debian volatile.. |
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| 10:37.56 | Starf^Work | on a closed internal network with me as the only user |
| 10:38.07 | liberty | Shephi, I went throug this in SID with SATA dirves. |
| 10:38.15 | jim | (this is one of two forms of sources.list... this one is for mirrors, the other is more for small private topic-based repositories) |
| 10:38.24 | liberty | drives == dirves ^^ (you can tell I been drinking now) |
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| 10:39.04 | jim | why not? |
| 10:39.09 | Starf^Work | jethro: so you are suggesting i open the file explorer as root and copy the files in ? |
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| 10:39.27 | jethro | Starf^Work: no, I suggested sudo |
| 10:39.33 | liable | volatile is officially supported, yes? |
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| 10:40.26 | jim | what's cheaper, sata drives or scsi drives? |
| 10:40.29 | Starf^Work | i prefer to use the file explorer to move the files rather than the terminal |
| 10:40.36 | liberty | jim, can I copy your sources.list ? I lost my cool SATA is cheaper |
| 10:40.39 | liable | sata i would imagine.. |
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| 10:40.59 | liberty | $1 < meg |
| 10:40.59 | jethro | Starf^Work: do whatever you want, I just corrected what you said about my suggestion. |
| 10:41.03 | jim | and howbout sata vs. pata? |
| 10:41.15 | liberty | dunno |
| 10:41.18 | cyzie | jethro, it is gzgrep :) |
| 10:41.19 | liable | pata being the older.. |
| 10:41.25 | liberty | SATA vs SCSI really |
| 10:41.35 | jim | yes, parallel vs serial |
| 10:41.38 | jethro | cyzie: zcat is probably not the GNU one if it asks for a .Z |
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| 10:41.57 | liberty | isn't IDE pata? |
| 10:42.04 | liberty | big wide cables |
| 10:42.06 | jim | eide maybe |
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| 10:42.13 | liable | yerp |
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| 10:42.45 | liberty | whereas SATA == skinny (near a few coax) |
| 10:42.52 | jethro | cyzie: but `gzgrep "pattern" file.gz' will definitely work |
| 10:43.06 | cyzie | jethro, yes, indeed! :) |
| 10:43.16 | jim | I'm trying to figure which would be better in a raid situation |
| 10:43.19 | cyzie | thanks jethro, all unix is better than windows! hehe |
| 10:43.35 | cyzie | jethro, dont care solaris or linux, it is still better than windows |
| 10:43.36 | cyzie | hehe |
| 10:44.06 | jethro | cyzie: depends on what you want to do with the computer.. I have a less narrow-minded point of view on that matter |
| 10:44.24 | cyzie | mm..true. |
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| 10:44.28 | jim | loons look loopy, lenny. |
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| 10:44.41 | cyzie | but if u let me choose windows or unix, i go for unix. |
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| 10:44.53 | liberty | jethro, I am with you there, Linux don't publish my TV show, but it does add FX |
| 10:45.13 | liberty | windows publishes my TV show |
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| 10:45.25 | liberty | linux protects windows |
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| 10:45.37 | liberty | and on, and on |
| 10:45.40 | cyzie | jethro, got to go now. headache. have a nice day |
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| 10:45.45 | jethro | cyzie: you too |
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| 10:47.08 | BertoX | well |
| 10:47.22 | jim | my |
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| 10:47.37 | liberty | use what works . just like witchcraft |
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| 10:47.43 | BertoX | manually download the file PAckages, then copy it to var/lib/apt/list path with good name and it works... |
| 10:47.55 | BertoX | don't know why but it works :) |
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| 10:48.55 | liable | hmm, to have another beer, or to not have another beer. this is the question. |
| 10:49.25 | liberty | haha First COffee THen Beer, Then Wine, Then Mota! |
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| 10:49.45 | liberty | Then Maybe wake up and hit some v0dsky |
| 10:50.05 | liable | heh, i gotta work tomorrow.. |
| 10:50.17 | liable | whats mota? |
| 10:50.21 | liberty | 1134l I am working now |
| 10:50.46 | liberty | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.20 | liberty | working on a bottle of klinker bink |
| 10:51.30 | liberty | er brick |
| 10:51.54 | liberty | mota == )Spanish Translation or THC( |
| 10:52.07 | liable | weed! |
| 10:52.13 | liberty | of course! |
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| 10:52.34 | liberty | actually resin in my particular case |
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| 10:52.40 | liable | hash! |
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| 10:53.02 | liberty | temple ball |
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| 11:00.39 | gnupengwyn | gnu of the pen clan |
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| 11:00.58 | gnupengwyn | I will take the heat |
| 11:01.04 | gnupengwyn | bring it |
| 11:01.20 | gnupengwyn | I dunno much but I CAN help folks |
| 11:01.39 | gnupengwyn | even if I *do not* understand what they ask |
| 11:02.04 | Mortalman | hmm |
| 11:02.34 | gnupengwyn | whatz up my flora-bamma friend |
| 11:03.14 | Shephi | liable i think i will recompile kernel |
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| 11:03.26 | gnupengwyn | YES! I love you Shephi |
| 11:03.34 | Shephi | im uncompressing kerne 2.4.27 now |
| 11:03.35 | liable | Shephi: no, why not just apt-get 2.6? |
| 11:03.35 | gnupengwyn | Do it, you will LEARN MUCH |
| 11:03.38 | jm_ | !ops we have to get rid of the moron |
| 11:03.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: we have to get rid of the moron |
| 11:03.56 | gnupengwyn | nothing to worry if you follow the 'debian way' |
| 11:04.25 | Shephi | debian way, /laugh |
| 11:04.31 | gnupengwyn | and yes 2.6 upgrade if you GOT the hardware |
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| 11:04.51 | gnupengwyn | I use the lowest I can get away with |
| 11:05.06 | gnupengwyn | I wish the kernel was straight ASM |
| 11:05.06 | dahlman_p | That's low |
| 11:05.12 | Shephi | but i have a problem.....or better to say, i dont know how to do what i want to do.... |
| 11:05.29 | gnupengwyn | headers? |
| 11:05.39 | gnupengwyn | symbolic link0rs? |
| 11:05.42 | liable | Shephi: that card apparently works fine, from my brief google, with 2.6, so try it.. |
| 11:05.45 | Shephi | move module to kernel |
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| 11:06.16 | Shephi | liable how get new kernel in that computer without network? |
| 11:06.16 | gnupengwyn | if liable says 2.6 goes with that Bor Card -- do it |
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| 11:06.38 | gnupengwyn | wget (after you find the kernel you want on Kernel.org |
| 11:06.38 | liable | Shephi: you got the install cd? |
| 11:06.48 | Shephi | yes |
| 11:06.54 | liable | Shephi: its on it. |
| 11:07.05 | gnupengwyn | there ya go the BINARY is on the CD |
| 11:07.09 | gnupengwyn | er, DVD? |
| 11:07.22 | Shephi | so, apt-get install kernel-2.6 ? |
| 11:07.27 | Shephi | yeah, dvd |
| 11:07.45 | gnupengwyn | or does he still need source? |
| 11:08.03 | liable | Shephi: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6, then install the one you want.. |
| 11:08.10 | gnupengwyn | apt-get install kernel-source*whuteverver |
| 11:08.21 | liable | gnupengwyn: shut up already.. |
| 11:09.11 | nixsys | Kernel, file serial_core.c, at the beginning of function uart_ioctl() i see: BUG_ON(!kernel_locked()); This is ont problem tcgetattr and ioctl of /dev/ttyS0? |
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| 11:10.17 | jethro | ~lf liable |
| 11:10.20 | apt | liable: don't you know we're supposed to be luserfriendly? |
| 11:10.36 | liable | jethro: haha |
| 11:10.38 | jm_ | nixsys: what are you doing? |
| 11:10.46 | liable | ~factinfo lf |
| 11:10.46 | apt | liable: there's no such factoid as lf |
| 11:10.57 | jethro | liable: it's a cmd |
| 11:11.17 | liable | jethro: yeah, my bot fu is still weak :P |
| 11:12.08 | nixsys | I want use /dev/ttyS0: get and set speed and other settings. |
| 11:12.08 | liable | jethro: and i am as vague as hell.. |
| 11:12.08 | jethro | liable: you want factinfo cmd: lf (.*?) [as a /msg to apt, of course :p] |
| 11:12.08 | jm_ | you can do that with setserial |
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| 11:12.29 | liable | !qotd123 |
| 11:12.37 | liable | hrmm. |
| 11:12.54 | nixsys | I use my soft, with 2.4.18 several month ago was good work. |
| 11:13.05 | liberty | liable, ever run a bbs? just askin.... |
| 11:13.25 | nixsys | My be I must see sources of setserial? |
| 11:13.40 | liable | liberty: no, i have no idea what it even is. |
| 11:13.55 | xelam | lol |
| 11:14.00 | jm_ | well it's certainly not kernel's fault that it fails, unless you have not compiled it correctly or failed to load relevant modules |
| 11:14.47 | nixsys | I use default kernel of Debian Sarge |
| 11:14.51 | nixsys | 2.6.8 |
| 11:15.14 | jm_ | did you load the drivers? is ttyS mentioned in /proc/devices? |
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| 11:16.05 | leopoldo | hi boy |
| 11:16.16 | bibe | hi all. I run Debian sarge on some customers' web servers (apache2 + mod-jk2 + tomcat), and a few of them absolutely need some tomcat5 features. So, I plan to add etch repositories and to use apt-pinning for installing tomcat5 and dependencies. I am doing that on a spare machine, and everything seems to work well, but... is it the most correct way to do that? IMO, other alternatives are unofficial backports and/or a tomcat5 manual install. What would you sugges |
| 11:16.24 | liberty | my first bbs was prolly the Yellow and Black Wildcat BBS but I ain't too sure about it now, I ran Spitfire with Lakota, RA, then Iniquity, and a whole boatload of BBS's. |
| 11:16.31 | nixsys | Charaster devices 4 ttyS is present |
| 11:16.31 | tarzeau | "nfs warning: mount version newer than kernel" can i shut these up? |
| 11:16.38 | leopoldo | ricky_clarkson: how are you, I'm keith_ |
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| 11:16.53 | liberty | then I learned about the FTS-1 packet |
| 11:17.12 | liberty | dsz port 1 speed 57600 d t |
| 11:17.18 | jm_ | ok so you have the relevant modules loaded, maybe you should check your software - it should work both with 2.4 and 2.6 - maybe it's worth testing it with 2.4 again |
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| 11:17.32 | nixsys | cat /dev/ttyS0 is run, not return error |
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| 11:18.01 | liberty | jm_, who refer to? |
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| 11:18.30 | liberty | tty is a friggin console |
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| 11:18.37 | liberty | what's up? |
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| 11:19.02 | liberty | okay |
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| 11:19.06 | liberty | sanity check |
| 11:19.13 | liberty | ttyS0 |
| 11:19.15 | texttool_eddy | ttyS0 is usually the serial port |
| 11:19.17 | liberty | ttys0 |
| 11:19.19 | jm_ | liberty: the one who's asking about 2.6.8 and serial devices ;) |
| 11:19.23 | Shephi | ok, kernel 2.6.8 instaled, rebooting... |
| 11:19.31 | nixsys | with 2.4.27 tcgetattr return same error |
| 11:19.32 | texttool_eddy | ttyS0 is usually a serial port |
| 11:19.40 | Shephi | led dont go in :( |
| 11:19.51 | jm_ | nixsys: there you go, so it's not a kernel fault |
| 11:20.02 | liberty | texttool_eddy, fellow bbs'r |
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| 11:20.32 | liberty | Shephi, make xconfig again |
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| 11:20.52 | liberty | do it up hardcore and figure it out. |
| 11:21.00 | texttool_eddy | no I'm a fellow UPS'r :-) |
| 11:21.01 | leopoldo | I'm new user |
| 11:21.10 | liberty | er make config |
| 11:21.25 | Shephi | xconfig?? i never run it. i just apt-get install kernel-image-2.8.6 |
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| 11:21.28 | liberty | across the evil database host0rz |
| 11:21.31 | texttool_eddy | didn't get it to wordk tough ... the apcupsd |
| 11:21.37 | leopoldo | how can I mount storage disks |
| 11:21.49 | Anthro | chkrootkit is telling me that I have processes hidden for ps and readdir. It also claims that I might have an LKM trojan. I suspect that it is a false alarm (as the LKM trojan warning often is), but I'd like to see what processes are hidden. How do I go about that? |
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| 11:22.01 | liable | Shephi: does lsmod show b44 or whatever it was as loaded? |
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| 11:22.20 | Slippy | anyone know how to get dot-completion in emacs for java? |
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| 11:22.50 | freespace | why do i get a "/bin/bash: i386-debian-linux: command not found" when executing dpkg-buildpackage on squid? |
| 11:22.52 | Shephi | system crashed when some modules loaded. Booting again |
| 11:22.59 | freespace | and how can i fix it ? |
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| 11:23.06 | jm_ | freespace: do you know what command not found means? |
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| 11:23.07 | liberty | Shephi, Forgot you just get binaries, then get hardware that works with the default binaries; that *IS* my final advice on that situation your in. |
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| 11:23.26 | freespace | jm_, yes, i am extremely curious to know what on earth that particular command is |
| 11:23.32 | liberty | Oh wait wait |
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| 11:23.38 | freespace | since i can't seem to find a reference to it anywhere |
| 11:23.39 | jm_ | freespace: /msg dpkg search |
| 11:23.44 | liable | leopoldo: ordinary hard drives? |
| 11:23.46 | liberty | Shephi, SORRY |
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| 11:24.01 | liable | liberty: go to bed. |
| 11:24.15 | jm_ | freespace: i386-debian-linux is an architecture name, not a command |
| 11:24.20 | Shephi | liberty: i dont buy that computer to install debian, just install on it to check debian ^^ |
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| 11:24.31 | freespace | jm_, tell it to dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 11:24.53 | jm_ | freespace: not me, you are doing this |
| 11:24.56 | freespace | the default ./configure works - dpkg-buildpackage doesn't |
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| 11:24.59 | liberty | Shephi, I use ANY OS that works |
| 11:25.07 | Shephi | omg, system crush at "starting printer spoller" >_< |
| 11:25.14 | jm_ | tried using debuild? |
| 11:25.28 | nixsys | stty not change speed. Why? stty </dev/ttyS0 38400 is stop, for return only SIGTERM |
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| 11:25.58 | liberty | liable, no |
| 11:26.05 | freespace | debuild eh... can't find it in apt-cach |
| 11:26.21 | jm_ | apt-cache can't search for files, /msg dpkg search |
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| 11:28.11 | freespace | hrm, well thats just wonderful |
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| 11:28.35 | marcel__ | ls |
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| 11:28.59 | Revenger | .br invasion? |
| 11:29.03 | liable | here we go.. |
| 11:29.16 | clavner | can I use openssh to get shell access to another pc |
| 11:29.26 | StevenR | Is there a network config tool for debian? I want to set a static IP, etc. Also, is there a service managing program so that I enable access by ssh? |
| 11:29.33 | Shephi | liable sorry dont see u before |
| 11:29.37 | liable | clavner: i believe thats what its for.. |
| 11:29.40 | liberty | hahah |
| 11:29.46 | Shephi | liable lsmod show me now b44, but (unused) >_< |
| 11:30.00 | Shephi | liable network dont work yet >_< |
| 11:30.04 | jm_ | StevenR: yes there is, twice |
| 11:30.05 | jethro | Revenger: they're spambots |
| 11:30.05 | liable | Shephi: and you didnt load it by hand? |
| 11:30.29 | clavner | another question 1024x768 = vga798 right? |
| 11:30.31 | Shephi | how can i load it by hand? |
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| 11:30.36 | liberty | Where Do You Live, I will HAND you a 100MB card right now! |
| 11:30.39 | StevenR | jm_: what would the names of said tools be please? |
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| 11:30.44 | jm_ | clavner: that's explained in svga.txt or FB docs |
| 11:30.48 | liberty | I live in Sac Cal USA |
| 11:31.11 | liable | Shephi: nevermind, you obviously didnt load it. what does ifconfig -a say? |
| 11:31.12 | policia | oi tudo bem? |
| 11:31.22 | jm_ | StevenR: 1) /msg dpkg interfaces ; man interfaces ; apt-cache show etherconf ; read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/*, 2) /msg dpkg services |
| 11:31.30 | policia | alguem ai fala minha língua |
| 11:31.30 | liable | !br |
| 11:31.30 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 11:31.41 | nixsys | Sotty, 2.6.8 contain bag, because stty not return success |
| 11:31.46 | liberty | yes ifconfig -a CustomShephi_Kernel-2.6x* |
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| 11:31.53 | StevenR | thanks jm_ |
| 11:31.59 | policia | nao sei fazer isso |
| 11:32.15 | policia | é so clicar? |
| 11:32.23 | liable | !tell policia about br |
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| 11:32.31 | policia | oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 11:32.45 | liberty | nao == . which language? |
| 11:32.54 | policia | dpkg onde esta vc? |
| 11:32.57 | liberty | not .es |
| 11:32.58 | Shephi | liberty: if use "ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1" it says "b44: eth0: BUG! Timeout waiting for bit 80000000 of register 428 to clear" |
| 11:33.08 | policia | OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII |
| 11:33.10 | NaArea | policia, tenta #debian-br |
| 11:33.14 | liberty | try another IP |
| 11:33.18 | policia | ALGUEM AI FALA PORTUGUES? |
| 11:33.19 | liberty | 192.168.0.1 |
| 11:33.24 | Shephi | at last it said "b44: et0: Link is down" |
| 11:33.40 | liberty | link it *UP* |
| 11:33.52 | dimir | policia: English! Or else! |
| 11:33.58 | Shephi | same with other ip |
| 11:34.02 | Ronin | policia: take the hint we dont speak spanish here |
| 11:34.03 | Shephi | how link up? |
| 11:34.15 | liberty | non terror en englis |
| 11:34.22 | policia | NAO TUDO BEM JÁ ENTENDI |
| 11:34.28 | policia | DE ONDE VC É |
| 11:34.30 | liberty | or me bombia su cabesa |
| 11:34.30 | liable | !ops policia brazilian tard |
| 11:34.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: policia brazilian tard |
| 11:34.33 | Shephi | (Im sorry, i know im new) |
| 11:34.34 | dimir | Fscking moron. |
| 11:34.44 | dimir | YOU HAVE TO YELL!??!?!?!?!?!?! |
| 11:34.56 | liberty | try to reason with ppl |
| 11:34.57 | policia | NINGUEM FALA PORTUGUES? |
| 11:34.57 | Ronin | policia: /join #debian-br |
| 11:35.05 | policia | OI RONIN |
| 11:35.09 | dimir | Ñóêà, áëÿ! |
| 11:35.12 | Ronin | ys theyre just trolling |
| 11:35.13 | liberty | oh protugese |
| 11:35.21 | liberty | russia |
| 11:35.25 | policia | PROTUGUESE? |
| 11:35.26 | liberty | wtf |
| 11:35.31 | NaArea | policia, porra, para de fazer hora, ja viu que aki ninguem fala portugues, se quizer ajuda vai pro #debian-br |
| 11:35.37 | policia | BRASIL, MUJLTA CARNAVAL, FUTEBOL |
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| 11:35.51 | liberty | dimir .ru? |
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| 11:36.01 | dimir | Someone ban the motherfscker |
| 11:36.06 | ricky_clarkson | policia: And samba, poverty and crap economy. |
| 11:36.08 | policia | COMO VAI PARA P DEBIAN BR? |
| 11:36.09 | liberty | k nm |
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| 11:36.15 | asg | !tell policia about br |
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| 11:36.29 | dimir | liberty: That was russian, yes. |
| 11:36.30 | liable | policia: ENGLISH |
| 11:36.36 | ricky_clarkson | policia: en su IRC, '/join #debian-br' |
| 11:36.38 | policia | OI ALGUEM AÍ FALA PORTUGUÊS? |
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| 11:36.43 | asg | policia: no, we fucking don't |
| 11:36.48 | policia | OI LIABLE |
| 11:36.49 | liberty | dimir . exact . np |
| 11:36.57 | NaArea | Someone kick the him?? |
| 11:37.00 | liberty | there ya go |
| 11:37.00 | ricky_clarkson | policia: /quit |
| 11:37.00 | liable | wow |
| 11:37.05 | policia | ASG? O QUE VC DISSE? |
| 11:37.06 | liberty | No Ka Oui! |
| 11:37.13 | asg | policia: my hovercraft is full of eels |
| 11:37.19 | liable | haha |
| 11:37.22 | liberty | lol asg |
| 11:37.23 | Revenger | asg++ |
| 11:37.25 | Ronin | they re just trolling folks /ignore |
| 11:37.30 | policia | ALGUEM AÍ É BRASILEIRO? |
| 11:37.33 | senac__ | o que vc esta querendo |
| 11:37.39 | asg | Ronin: not trolling, legitimately stupid |
| 11:37.41 | policia | CONVERSAR |
| 11:37.47 | liberty | .br == amigo?!?! |
| 11:37.47 | dimir | policia: /exec rm -rf / |
| 11:37.48 | renato | . |
| 11:37.49 | Sly | oiiiii |
| 11:37.52 | lara | onde encontro a documentação do debian? |
| 11:37.54 | Revenger | if i say you have a beautiful body, would you hold that against me |
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| 11:37.57 | policia | SIM |
| 11:37.58 | dimir | damn it. |
| 11:38.00 | jethro | !ops can we please get rid of policia and the .br invaders? |
| 11:38.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: can we please get rid of policia and the .br invaders |
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| 11:38.01 | policia | OI |
| 11:38.09 | NaArea | lara, /j #debian-br |
| 11:38.16 | fireba11 | ^^ |
| 11:38.17 | policia | SLY, oi |
| 11:38.20 | Sly | qual o endereço do chat do debian em português? |
| 11:38.23 | ricky_clarkson | policia: há muitos brasileiros em #debian-br |
| 11:38.23 | MURILO | Bom Dia!!! |
| 11:38.27 | liberty | .br == deathmetal |
| 11:38.46 | policia | sly. não sei, não conhece esse sistema, estou aprendendo agora |
| 11:38.47 | asg | liberty: we all know the best Death Metal comes from Scandanavia |
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| 11:38.51 | NaArea | lol, lot of brazilian guys!! |
| 11:38.52 | federal5 | oi policia eu falo portugues. Como vai seu contato com linux/debian |
| 11:38.56 | dimir | Motherfsckers are taking over the channel. |
| 11:38.58 | liberty | yep yep eyp NaArea |
| 11:39.13 | asg | dimir: this would not have happened in the old days |
| 11:39.17 | policia | federal5- horrível |
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| 11:39.20 | MURILO | q q q???? |
| 11:39.24 | NaArea | hum...., policia , Sly , senac_ and lara is all clones!!! |
| 11:39.26 | lara | Murilo, porque você chegou atrasado de novo? |
| 11:39.31 | dimir | asg: what the heck are ops thinking? |
| 11:39.33 | liberty | NO Just ./BAN 24/7 |
| 11:39.37 | Ronin | policia:quanto para alugar sua irmã? |
| 11:39.38 | NaArea | ban CLONES!! |
| 11:39.42 | coronelrodrigues | que é lara? |
| 11:39.44 | liberty | that what I THINK |
| 11:39.45 | asg | dimir: they aren't around apparently *shrug* |
| 11:39.50 | liberty | that's what I DO |
| 11:39.54 | MURILO | atrazildo... a culpa foi do jogo do Goiás... rs. |
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| 11:39.55 | dimir | asg: seems so |
| 11:39.56 | Jos | o que faço agora? alguém aí tem uma idéia? |
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| 11:40.01 | policia | ronin: minha irmã e meu irmao vc quer? |
| 11:40.01 | ricky_clarkson | lilo: Can you please help with the Brazilians in here? |
| 11:40.01 | dimir | damn it.. |
| 11:40.03 | liberty | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:40.11 | dimir | This is getting totally out of control. |
| 11:40.21 | liberty | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.24 | nixsys | flood |
| 11:40.25 | fireba11 | did just set up some /ignore .. ^^ |
| 11:40.32 | jethro | being good at lecturing people is one thing, being a channel operator does not only involve this sadly .. |
| 11:40.32 | lara | Lara sou eu! |
| 11:40.36 | liberty | oh crap in .debian |
| 11:40.41 | policia | lara; oi lara |
| 11:40.41 | senac_ | romy coronel rudrigues é a mae |
| 11:40.43 | liberty | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.49 | liable | fuck sakes.. |
| 11:40.49 | NaArea | ./ban !*!@201-24-133-194.gnace300.ipd.brasiltelecom.net.br |
| 11:40.51 | liberty | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.58 | coronelrodrigues | qual é o seu telefone? |
| 11:41.01 | policia | oi MURILO |
| 11:41.12 | liberty | ls -la /#debian |
| 11:41.17 | MURILO | Oi, tudo bacana? |
| 11:41.19 | policia | OIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 11:41.24 | coronelrodrigues | lara qual é o seu telefone? |
| 11:41.25 | liberty | No |
| 11:41.30 | policia | MURILO. TUDO BEM É AI? |
| 11:41.32 | liberty | No KA OUI |
| 11:41.39 | ricky_clarkson | coronelrodrigues: parta por favor |
| 11:41.57 | MURILO | Estamos na área, caiu é penalty. rs. |
| 11:41.58 | policia | OI LAZINHA |
| 11:41.58 | lara | O da PF |
| 11:41.59 | ricky_clarkson | policia: MURILO: senac_: parta por favor. |
| 11:42.05 | liberty | todos su bendejos esan estupidos |
| 11:42.07 | liberty | fsck u |
| 11:42.10 | jethro | :beer ricky_clarkson |
| 11:42.16 | policia | TA TODO MUNDO DOIDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 11:42.17 | ricky_clarkson | liberty: Was that Spanish? |
| 11:42.22 | liberty | sort of |
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| 11:42.27 | policia | OI LAZINHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 11:42.27 | jethro | damn it, too many different bot triggers in my mind |
| 11:42.28 | Ronin | just a new version of spam bots |
| 11:42.35 | NaArea | ignored |
| 11:42.48 | policia | CADE OCE, CABRA DA PESTE |
| 11:42.50 | liberty | this channel ain't tooken over |
| 11:42.53 | Jos | João Batista, por favor dá para falar mais baixo? |
| 11:43.04 | policia | PEGO MINHA PEIXEIRA EEEEEEEEEEE |
| 11:43.11 | liberty | lilo can hell of rip some IP ass |
| 11:43.18 | policia | LALALALALALALALALALALAL |
| 11:43.22 | liberty | so don't go there |
| 11:43.24 | policia | LARALARALLARALALALALALALAL |
| 11:43.29 | MURILO | Estava com dor de barriga... |
| 11:43.30 | ricky_clarkson | There aren't any staffers online atm, it seems. |
| 11:43.35 | azeem | !ops stop the .br spam madness, please |
| 11:43.36 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: stop the .br spam madness, please |
| 11:43.44 | policia | OI EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 11:43.56 | tam | wtf |
| 11:43.57 | RichiH_ | policia: please stop |
| 11:43.59 | liberty | I like .br |
| 11:44.06 | NaArea | !ops Can any one ban this clones? |
| 11:44.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Can any one ban this clones |
| 11:44.12 | Ronin | ahh thats better |
| 11:44.14 | liberty | Yeah exactly . REASON . with them |
| 11:44.20 | MURILO | Comi muita batata doce, salada de repolho e ovo num restaurante lá da rodoviária... |
| 11:44.21 | senac_ | quem esta usando o nome policia |
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| 11:44.22 | *** kick/#debian [policia!i=richih@freenode/staff/richih] by RichiH_ (RichiH_) |
| 11:44.29 | liberty | ~poof~ |
| 11:44.41 | NaArea | RichiH_, Thanks! |
| 11:44.43 | jethro | azeem: it's been 3 times now. I guess #debian opers are better at lecturing regulars, than they are at keeping the place free of wankers |
| 11:44.47 | xelam | :D |
| 11:44.48 | jethro | RichiH_: thanks a bunch |
| 11:45.00 | liberty | no, it's just 4:44 at night |
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| 11:45.12 | liable | RichiH_: champ. |
| 11:45.20 | jethro | liberty: we don't all ive in the same timezone you know? |
| 11:45.25 | jethro | s/ive/live/ |
| 11:45.25 | RichiH_ | np |
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| 11:45.47 | azeem | RichiH_: keep an eye on MURILO, please |
| 11:45.49 | liberty | i know |
| 11:45.50 | ricky_clarkson | Maybe we need more ops outside America. |
| 11:46.11 | fireba11 | ricky_clarkson: sounds like a reasonable idea :-) |
| 11:46.15 | azeem | ah, banned, cool |
| 11:46.20 | nixsys | stty is fall on default 2.6.8? Bug in kernel on me? |
| 11:46.27 | liberty | I ain't scared of them. |
| 11:46.31 | NullAshton | so wheres the people? |
| 11:46.34 | liberty | let em hack me |
| 11:46.41 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: maybe we also need to keep the good ops, instead of making them leave, but that's another topic |
| 11:46.42 | liberty | On my OLD ass kernel |
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| 11:46.50 | dimir | :-) |
| 11:47.02 | nixsys | Bug in kernel or in me? |
| 11:47.09 | liberty | 266 days since last update |
| 11:47.12 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: Wassat? |
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| 11:47.42 | Shephi | liberty, i have a problem.....when install kernel 2.6.8, lilo create debian 2.4.27 entry and debian 2.6.8 entry...but 2.6.8 crush at start.... |
| 11:48.03 | nixsys | stty is fall on default 2.6.8? Bug into kernel or into me? |
| 11:48.22 | Shephi | it stop after started printer spooler: lpd. |
| 11:48.33 | zignig | can anybody point me to a good howto on kerberos and pam ? |
| 11:48.39 | azeem | nixsys: please rephrase your question, we do not understand "stty is fall on default" |
| 11:48.56 | liberty | oksy you know mc (midnight commander?) |
| 11:49.09 | liberty | y/N = ? |
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| 11:49.25 | Shephi | liberty: if u ask me, no |
| 11:49.34 | nixsys | stty is stop, not return result |
| 11:49.42 | liberty | what do you use for a FILE MANAGER? |
| 11:49.57 | jethro | liberty: a shell |
| 11:49.57 | asg | zignig: apt-get install libpam-krb5 krb5-config. You will be prompted for the REALM, auth servers etc. Then, just add the pam module to whatever service you require authentication from |
| 11:50.13 | ana | vamos trabalhar |
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| 11:50.21 | nixsys | stty is "hovering" |
| 11:50.29 | azeem | nixsys: what is stty? |
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| 11:51.12 | nixsys | I use stty for get and set setting of /dev/ttyS0 (is COM port, uart16550 chip) |
| 11:51.22 | zignig | asg: did that, kinit even works on the command line. |
| 11:51.32 | zignig | asg: but it won't let me login\ |
| 11:51.55 | liberty | Shephi, Although I have no . I repeat no more pitty for you. would you like my stripped version of mc? |
| 11:52.05 | liberty | no libs |
| 11:52.10 | zignig | asg: putting in the the SRV dns entry was the fun thing to find. |
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| 11:52.28 | liberty | no find |
| 11:53.21 | liberty | Shephi , In deb , do a apt-get install midnight-commander |
| 11:53.27 | liberty | or ugh |
| 11:53.37 | liberty | Shephi , In deb , do a apt-get install mc |
| 11:54.07 | liberty | I dunno, nor remember, (and yes it pisses me orff) name of the midnight commander binary |
| 11:54.30 | fireba11 | liberty: apt-get install mc |
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| 11:54.57 | liberty | yeah that didn't fsckin work serveral yerars ago fireball |
| 11:54.59 | zignig | asg: in pam.d/common-auth I have auth required pam_krb5.so forwardable |
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| 11:55.10 | zignig | asg: but no dice :( |
| 11:55.44 | liberty | not that I don't appriciate the help for > Sh |
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| 11:56.16 | weissi | is there a MTA, usable with mutt, which is able to send mail (as non-root USER) to a provider's mail relay??? |
| 11:56.19 | nixsys | Anyone development soft for using COM port? |
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| 11:56.40 | tengulre | nixsys, yes! |
| 11:56.51 | liberty | weissi, I'm there with YOU |
| 11:56.58 | petemc | weissi: of course, the debian default, exim - will do this, as will postfix, courier, etc |
| 11:57.04 | fireba11 | weissi: dunno about mutt but the rest should fit all doesn't it ? |
| 11:57.07 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: It's not amazingly surprising that greycat is one of the editors of TheFable. ;) |
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| 11:57.10 | liberty | exim4?!? |
| 11:57.27 | petemc | exim3 is no longer worth talking about |
| 11:57.27 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: So did the DPL complain about #debian? |
| 11:57.34 | liable | ricky_clarkson: author i believe :) |
| 11:57.38 | liberty | kiullall -9 exm4 |
| 11:57.46 | zignig | asg: kick me, please do it now; i'll learn how to spell sufficient at some point. |
| 11:57.48 | tengulre | anybody is SOHO user? |
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| 11:57.58 | zignig | asg: BLEH! |
| 11:58.03 | asg | zignig: still not working? |
| 11:58.28 | zignig | asg: is working now, that pam is _actually_ configured correctly. |
| 11:58.34 | asg | zignig: ah :) |
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| 11:58.41 | liberty | I see exim4 running on my friggin sarge |
| 11:58.44 | weissi | thnx, I have a working config, but I had to change things in /etc/postfix/..., this should also with encrypted... |
| 11:58.48 | petemc | liberty: so? |
| 11:58.53 | liberty | so?! |
| 11:59.05 | petemc | liberty: actually, i dont care |
| 11:59.05 | zignig | asg: i'm going for single sign on with my home network. linux/mac :) |
| 11:59.07 | liberty | fut the wuck? |
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| 11:59.27 | liberty | i dunnot care either |
| 11:59.36 | liberty | do not ^ |
| 11:59.45 | asg | zignig: cool. You should write a HowTO/Overview when you are done :) |
| 11:59.56 | liable | meh, take care, laters.. |
| 12:00.02 | liberty | liable |
| 12:00.05 | liberty | oh man |
| 12:00.12 | liberty | who's left |
| 12:00.18 | Zugschlus | liberty: what's your problem with exim? |
| 12:00.19 | zignig | asg: jah, I should |
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| 12:00.32 | liberty | Zugschlus, np |
| 12:00.44 | texttool_eddy | exim bad, postfix good |
| 12:00.54 | Zugschlus | texttool_eddy: go away |
| 12:00.55 | Shephi | make xconfig......wish not instaled, omg >_< |
| 12:01.12 | ix | menuconfig <3 |
| 12:01.13 | liberty | just that . 1 . referred to exim . and the . proc == exim4 . |
| 12:01.20 | liberty | nm |
| 12:01.23 | weissi | petemc, liberty, questioned otherwise: is it possible to run one global postfix instance for the system and n others for each user (configured somewhere in his home), which wants to send mail to a providers relay?? |
| 12:01.43 | liberty | no . no mail |
| 12:01.49 | liberty | no smtp |
| 12:01.55 | liberty | burn in hell |
| 12:02.01 | liberty | forever |
| 12:02.16 | liberty | no postfix |
| 12:02.29 | liberty | cpnfigure in MY home?!? |
| 12:02.30 | petemc | weissi: thats easy enough with exim, dont know postfix |
| 12:02.35 | texttool_eddy | weissi: why? |
| 12:02.36 | Yoe | weissi: .forward? |
| 12:02.43 | liberty | rm -rf *your.bs* |
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| 12:03.08 | liberty | postfix is the same as exim ; sort of |
| 12:03.10 | Zugschlus | liberty: please try talking english. I cannot decypher what you want to say. |
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| 12:03.28 | Zugschlus | what is your problem with exim |
| 12:03.29 | liberty | Zug, sadly I don't care |
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| 12:03.37 | Zugschlus | liberty: ok, go away. |
| 12:03.42 | liberty | I have No problems |
| 12:03.44 | texttool_eddy | weissi: you usually need just 1 relay |
| 12:03.44 | Zugschlus | I don't care about your problem either |
| 12:04.02 | liberty | Shut up . STOP. Ai Bot |
| 12:04.15 | texttool_eddy | Zugschlus: why? |
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| 12:04.22 | liberty | exactly |
| 12:04.30 | liberty | why you PICK *ME* out? |
| 12:04.41 | liberty | ignor whatever. |
| 12:04.42 | dimir | :-) |
| 12:04.57 | thr | How do i install all packages(.deb) in, for example /usr/src/packages with dpkg? |
| 12:05.06 | thr | dpkg /usr/src/packages/.* ... something?= |
| 12:05.07 | xelam | liberty: you're spamming :P |
| 12:05.07 | Yoe | thr: dpkg -i * |
| 12:05.08 | jm_ | man dpkg |
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| 12:05.23 | mejo | thr: dpkg -i /usr/src/packages/*.deb |
| 12:05.34 | thr | mejo: thxx, that's the line i was looking for. |
| 12:05.45 | syntaxx | apt-setup does add new sources? |
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| 12:06.02 | mejo | thr: see 'man dpkg' |
| 12:06.14 | liberty | my ISP or me? |
| 12:06.24 | liberty | oh wtf . xelam |
| 12:06.46 | xelam | for one thing, learn to use "." properly |
| 12:07.03 | liberty | I usde the fsck I want . TO USE |
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| 12:07.12 | xelam | eh? |
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| 12:07.18 | ircops | haha |
| 12:07.20 | dimir | for i in $(find /usr/src/packages -name '*.deb'); do echo $i; done | while read line; do if [ -f $line ]; then echo OK, preparing to install $line...; dpkg -i $line; else echo error: $line not found; fi; done |
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| 12:07.21 | syntaxx | apt-setup can add new sources like testing or unstable? |
| 12:07.25 | xelam | sorry, your English is very poor and I don't understand :( |
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| 12:07.52 | dimir | Keep it simple! |
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| 12:08.27 | mejo | liberty: please use punctuation marks correctly. don't put spaces between the last word of a sentence and the punctuation mark. |
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| 12:08.29 | liberty | I use "." the *WAY* I want to use it . (in plain english) and so what if I use extra spaces or whatever the fsck) |
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| 12:08.40 | glen | exit |
| 12:08.49 | liberty | hello fool . are you still there . yes . then great |
| 12:08.50 | mejo | liberty: it is ugly, that's all. |
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| 12:08.51 | ircops | ohhhh |
| 12:08.52 | ircops | lol |
| 12:09.00 | ircops | he's using "filesystem check" for "fuck" |
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| 12:09.01 | ircops | haha |
| 12:09.03 | liberty | it's OLD SCHOOL |
| 12:09.10 | liberty | go away |
| 12:09.10 | xelam | liberty: fsck is a file system checker, not a swear word |
| 12:09.15 | ircops | liberty: fsck off |
| 12:09.16 | Randakar | hey, is glibc broken in unstable atm? |
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| 12:09.28 | liberty | it's a swear word not a file system checker |
| 12:09.31 | mejo | Randakar: how do you mean? |
| 12:09.34 | liberty | i swear |
| 12:09.43 | fireba11 | ah well .. when you need to use fsck fuck is not far away :-) |
| 12:09.46 | xelam | liberty: ah well, you're wrong AND stupid :) |
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| 12:09.48 | liberty | fsck you . etc |
| 12:09.49 | ircops | liberty: F-S-C-K File System ChecK |
| 12:09.51 | Randakar | because I was upgrading my firewall with libc6_2.3.5-6_i386.deb |
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| 12:10.07 | mejo | Randakar: and? |
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| 12:10.20 | ircops | liberty: F-U-C-K Fuck |
| 12:10.21 | liberty | fsck == e2fsck on most liinux box3n |
| 12:10.25 | Randakar | and now minor things like 'less', 'top', 'su' and logging in through ssh crap out with a Segmentation fault |
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| 12:10.32 | liberty | nm |
| 12:10.43 | mejo | Randakar: you have up-to-date unstable? |
| 12:10.53 | liberty | bye bye,. I have no more energy to WASTE ON THIS |
| 12:10.55 | Randakar | Last time I updated was a week or maybe 2 ago |
| 12:10.57 | ircops | sweet |
| 12:10.58 | ircops | cya |
| 12:10.58 | azeem | liberty: cool |
| 12:11.04 | xelam | liberty: bye then |
| 12:11.10 | mejo | Randakar: which version of libc6 have you installed? |
| 12:11.13 | Randakar | thing is, I'm not physically near this box |
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| 12:11.28 | Randakar | Not sure, as the upgrade failed with an obscure error as well |
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| 12:11.42 | Randakar | Can't reproduce it here - it scrolled out of my SSH buffer |
| 12:11.44 | mejo | Randakar: it maybe a problem with pam and shadow. i suggest to do an apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade. |
| 12:11.47 | Anthro | chkrootkit is telling me that I have processes hidden for ps and readdir. It also claims that I might have an LKM trojan. I suspect that it is a false alarm (as the LKM trojan warning often is), but I'd like to see what processes are hidden. How do I go about that? |
| 12:11.57 | Randakar | apt is broke as well |
| 12:12.19 | Randakar | in fact, I logged out from the root account and su craps out so I can't get in anymore |
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| 12:12.24 | mejo | Randakar: you have unstable or testing? |
| 12:12.29 | Randakar | I'll reboot tonight and try to do that, though ;-) |
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| 12:12.46 | lib_AFK | box is compromised LOL |
| 12:12.46 | mejo | Randakar: i doubt that rebooting will help. |
| 12:12.57 | lib_AFK | remote dB bastards |
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| 12:13.00 | mejo | Randakar: no way to login as root? |
| 12:13.11 | Randakar | This machine was fixed on stable for a long time.. let me check |
| 12:13.12 | Randakar | deb http://www.debian.nl/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 12:13.22 | Randakar | that's the only line in sources.list |
| 12:13.41 | Randakar | might be a compromise, but things started to go icky during libc upgrade |
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| 12:14.09 | texttool_eddy | Randakar: man 'sources.list' |
| 12:14.10 | lib_AFK | im havin a smoke . wake up fool |
| 12:14.19 | lib_AFK | lol |
| 12:14.37 | lib_AFK | I got a sources.list |
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| 12:14.50 | Petrov | hello |
| 12:14.54 | lib_AFK | but you gunna get SID if you not careful |
| 12:14.55 | Randakar | uh, what does reading the man page on sources.list give me for benefit here? |
| 12:15.02 | texttool_eddy | sorry |
| 12:15.23 | texttool_eddy | just answering a qusetion pages ago |
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| 12:15.24 | lib_AFK | wait . i'm supposed to be afk . wtf? |
| 12:15.36 | ricky_clarkson | Randakar: I guess you got some error message. What is it? |
| 12:15.37 | Randakar | ah |
| 12:15.42 | jharrisonwk | comrads! |
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| 12:15.57 | ircops | wow. he actually left. |
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| 12:16.08 | ircops | damn |
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| 12:16.22 | Randakar | free(): error ... _some_address_ |
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| 12:16.52 | crocd | guys what is the situation with people spamming you when you join the channel? |
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| 12:17.08 | ircops | crocd: what nick? |
| 12:17.13 | jharrisonwk | so just got a new linksys box with vonage support and ssh is running on the box but I cannot log into it |
| 12:17.23 | crocd | WHatTheThins |
| 12:17.23 | jharrisonwk | so the question is who CAN log into it |
| 12:17.28 | ricky_clarkson | crocd: Not reproducible for me. |
| 12:17.36 | jharrisonwk | I bet vonage guys can log into it |
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| 12:17.54 | crocd | i got sent a pm for malaysian porn. came here for debian assistance really.. |
| 12:18.03 | jharrisonwk | crocd: yeah me too |
| 12:18.09 | ircops | I didn't get anything from him |
| 12:18.17 | crocd | CoMe DowNLoad ThiS CooL Video FrOm MaLaySIa Serv!! MaLayBitch OnLine!! at This HOmEPage .:. Http://Www.GeoCities.Com/MaLayBitchVids Or Just Click Here To Download .:. Http://Www.Geocities.coM/MalayBitchVids/malaybitch.zip |
| 12:18.20 | ircops | yeah I did |
| 12:18.21 | ircops | okay |
| 12:18.23 | ircops | heh |
| 12:18.23 | Randakar | Anyway, if libc6 upgrade isn't broken in testing then I may have to just reboot from CD and do a rootkit check to see if there's a compromise. Random programs segfaulting is a red flag to me |
| 12:18.29 | crocd | that is what i got |
| 12:18.29 | ricky_clarkson | !ops please ban WHatTheThins for on-join spam. |
| 12:18.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: please ban WHatTheThins for on-join spam. |
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| 12:18.44 | Randakar | crocd: I got that message too |
| 12:18.44 | ricky_clarkson | ops, nevermind, k-lined. |
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| 12:18.59 | ircops | lol |
| 12:19.01 | jharrisonwk | crocd: make sure you /msg nickserv set unfiltered off |
| 12:19.02 | crocd | n=dkskdmsj@60.51.138.62 this was the ip |
| 12:19.13 | crocd | jharrisonwk: ok thanks |
| 12:19.33 | ircops | n=dkskdmsj@60.49.12.50 just rejoined |
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| 12:19.45 | texttool_eddy | Randakar: maybe it has something to do with fscked up lib-config |
| 12:19.58 | _weissi | texttool_eddy: sorry, my connection was broken |
| 12:20.13 | Randakar | possibly. I wonder what happens when I reboot the box though, if it's just a bug |
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| 12:20.32 | Randakar | in my view I have about 50% chance the entire box doesn't come back up again |
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| 12:20.33 | ricky_clarkson | jharrisonwk: That spammer was registered. |
| 12:20.43 | ircops | sweet. |
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| 12:20.51 | jharrisonwk | ricky_clarkson: that makes sense then |
| 12:21.00 | _weissi | texttool_eddy, my problem: user1 has Provider P1 and has to authenticate it self with his username and pw for being able to send mails from his domain, user2, user3, ..., userN have the same problem, too... |
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| 12:21.12 | jharrisonwk | ricky_clarkson: I was pretty sure I had unfiltered off but I was not sure as I recently set it to on temporarily |
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| 12:21.39 | _weissi | texttool_eddy, so every user needs a mta which authenticates itself with the correct username and pw for being able to sent mails, correct??? |
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| 12:22.12 | _weissi | texttool_eddy, I have a working config for ONE user, which is made in /etc/postfix directly, which is NOT good, I think... |
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| 12:23.03 | texttool_eddy | weissi: usually you only have authenticate to the imap/pop-server ... the smtp-relay is usually open for anyone |
| 12:23.28 | _weissi | texttool_eddy: is my case it is NOT! |
| 12:23.34 | Randakar | exit |
| 12:23.35 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: I don't know everything since part of the issue has been discussed in an ivory tower ;) |
| 12:23.37 | texttool_eddy | weissi: ah |
| 12:24.35 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: Was greycat inside or outside the walls? |
| 12:24.47 | _weissi | texttool_eddy: thats the main problem, I'm relatively experienced in configuring mail servers, but in this case I don't know what to do. This was also the reason, why I asked for a small mta for every user. |
| 12:25.09 | liberty | dpkg !seen greyghost |
| 12:25.11 | ircops | =] |
| 12:25.28 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: I would say outside. To my knowledge, he's not part of the debian project as #debian isn't supported by the project, so I'd say no. |
| 12:25.28 | zignig | ircops: can't get cap'n crunch in .au ;P |
| 12:25.31 | _weissi | texttool_eddy: It should behave just like Kmail or the windowze-mailprogs where each user can configure his mailserver, username and pw... |
| 12:25.39 | ircops | zignig: damn that sucks. |
| 12:25.55 | jethro | s/no./outside/ |
| 12:25.59 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: Has ##debian been suggested? |
| 12:26.00 | zignig | ircops: brekkie consists of C+C for me. |
| 12:26.01 | ircops | zignig: I guess you'll just have to settle for some kerberos and milk lol ;) |
| 12:26.04 | liberty | enomni satanas |
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| 12:26.16 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: ##debian as the official debian project support channel? :) |
| 12:26.21 | eXa_bOy | can someone tell me the name of the server that hosts vserver channel? |
| 12:26.33 | ircops | (yes I know what kerberos is) |
| 12:26.33 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: No, as the unofficial debian discussion channel. |
| 12:26.37 | ricky_clarkson | As per Freenode guidelines. |
| 12:26.37 | ircops | zignig: C+C ? |
| 12:26.43 | zignig | ircops: coffee and ciggi |
| 12:26.54 | ircops | zignig: hey that's what I have coincidentally ;) |
| 12:26.55 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: I don't know, and I don't care that much to be honest. |
| 12:27.11 | ircops | zignig: good 'ole marlboro light and a cup 'a jo |
| 12:27.11 | zignig | ircops: low in fat, high in stress and cancer , mmmm yummy. |
| 12:27.15 | crocd | I cannot seem to find out how to get access my cdrom on a proliant ML370 server, where can I start to look? |
| 12:27.15 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: And make #debian a redirect to ##debian until such time as the King and Court care to request #debian for their own use. |
| 12:27.16 | ircops | hehe |
| 12:27.23 | jethro | hahaha |
| 12:27.25 | eXa_bOy | ricky_clarkson do you know the server thats got #vserver? |
| 12:27.32 | ricky_clarkson | ~leech eXa_bOy |
| 12:27.36 | apt | ACTION removes the bloodsucking eXa_bOy from ricky_clarkson, and attaches him to a frying pan. |
| 12:27.51 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: That's what we've done with #java, pending Sun Microsystems making a request. |
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| 12:28.12 | eXa_bOy | i take that as a no |
| 12:28.21 | ricky_clarkson | Good idea. |
| 12:28.52 | eXa_bOy | anyone> |
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| 12:29.14 | _weissi | isn't there a small mta which is configurable for every user, which is able to authenticate itself on a provider's mta(relay) (every user different server, username&pw) and which is configurable for every user in HIS home? |
| 12:30.22 | _weissi | liberty, do you have any ideas? |
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| 12:30.49 | Guerin | _weissi: 99% of people have no need for a remote-capable MTA, and for most of those, having one would be a liability, not a benefit. |
| 12:31.11 | Guerin | no matter how easy it was to configure or maintain |
| 12:31.25 | eXa_bOy | i found it,... for hte record its irc.oftc.net |
| 12:31.48 | wesley | Hi everybody!! |
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| 12:32.18 | eXa_bOy | hi dr nick |
| 12:32.20 | wesley | So, yesterday a installed the debian, but i could not set the sound card. may you help me? |
| 12:32.45 | lib_missing | Guerin, LOL yeah! |
| 12:32.54 | xoz | wesley: continue |
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| 12:33.08 | lilo | eXa_bOy: yup |
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| 12:33.23 | eXa_bOy | lilo thanks |
| 12:33.24 | _weissi | Guerin, not every one has his own mailserver with a static IP, everyone who uses kmail for instance benefits of such a feature (built in). |
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| 12:33.42 | eXa_bOy | your fkn idling in it lilo :P |
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| 12:34.00 | lib_missing | I gotta a NTA . Per Hour . Script you can hack it to do your bidding, hopefully you know wwhat friendly network packets are? |
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| 12:34.16 | wesley | and then, i cant configure my sound card.. i have an ati.. im using the lap top compaq nx6125 |
| 12:34.30 | lib_missing | hopefully you know what no annoying behavior is |
| 12:34.38 | lib_missing | no == non |
| 12:34.50 | azeem | ricky_clarkson: I think ##debian was suggested as a possibility, amongst other things, but I am not sure anymore |
| 12:34.59 | ircops | ahhhhh nicotine rush |
| 12:35.00 | lib_missing | fts-001 packets |
| 12:35.08 | ircops | =D |
| 12:35.08 | wesley | xoz: 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4370 (rev 02) |
| 12:35.30 | daniel_Almeid_27 | bom dia |
| 12:35.46 | texttool_eddy | weissi: sender_based_routing (default: no) |
| 12:35.47 | texttool_eddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.47 | texttool_eddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.47 | lib_missing | brn dum |
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| 12:36.24 | xoz | wesley: try modprobe snd-atiixp |
| 12:36.32 | liberty | whoop |
| 12:37.00 | wesley | xoz: how?? |
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| 12:37.14 | liberty | modprop snd-fskinlout |
| 12:37.21 | _weissi | texttool_eddy: I don't want to configure this system-wide if possible, because every user should be able to configure his mail-connection himself, I think (just like in all these graphical mailprogs: kmail, evolution, ..., outlook (express), ....) |
| 12:37.40 | liberty | le-out |
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| 12:37.57 | xoz | wesley: did you modprobe already? |
| 12:37.59 | _gass_ | hello ppl |
| 12:38.02 | liberty | email better learn iptables |
| 12:38.06 | wesley | nope |
| 12:38.07 | liberty | or a script |
| 12:38.09 | wesley | i think so |
| 12:38.11 | liberty | like apf |
| 12:38.16 | xoz | wesley: modprobe snd-atiixp |
| 12:38.17 | liberty | or somethin |
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| 12:38.32 | _gass_ | i am having here an error in amavis, i need to know what is expected to return the select_polisy selec from the sql database |
| 12:38.33 | liberty | i hate life now. |
| 12:38.59 | liberty | man i hate it. just kill me and all my 66/24 servers |
| 12:39.00 | wesley | i need to get it? |
| 12:39.14 | azeem | wesley: you need to run it as root |
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| 12:39.21 | _weissi | texttool_eddy: I've found the solution in #mutt: http://wiki.mutt.org/?LightSMTPagents and http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:39.22 | azeem | wesley: modprobe is essential, it should be on your box |
| 12:39.23 | liberty | r00t? |
| 12:39.30 | azeem | liberty: no, root |
| 12:39.35 | liberty | r00t |
| 12:39.41 | xoz | nope. it is a kernel module. it should be there if you are using debian kernel. after modprobe, lsmod | grep ati |
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| 12:39.53 | xoz | wesley: ^^ |
| 12:40.07 | eXa_bOy | Cannot write to `linux-2.6.12.5.tar.bz2' (Operation not permitted). |
| 12:40.09 | wesley | i don have it here |
| 12:40.13 | eXa_bOy | whats that usually mean? |
| 12:40.21 | _weissi | from esmtp features: - individual user configuration, - supports the AUTH SMTP extension, with the CRAM-MD5 and NTLM SASL mechanisms, - fully sendmail command line compatible, |
| 12:40.26 | eXa_bOy | im using wget to get a file |
| 12:40.31 | liberty | .112 si that a bad one to run, update distry |
| 12:40.55 | liberty | <drunken w3bma554 |
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| 12:42.25 | liberty | ls -la /tmp | mir |
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| 12:42.44 | azeem | wesley: what is "it"? |
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| 12:42.50 | liberty | whoop whoop |
| 12:43.14 | azeem | liberty: maybe you should leave the channel for a while, until you are able to write coherently again? |
| 12:43.34 | liberty | i was funn in ya |
| 12:44.03 | liberty | no dangerous commands given |
| 12:44.03 | texttool_eddy | weissi: that's interesting ... |
| 12:44.14 | liberty | I only gave HONEST advice |
| 12:44.30 | liberty | what then? how long you want me to leave for? |
| 12:44.51 | wesley | how can i install modprobe? |
| 12:44.58 | liberty | I do give dangerous commands |
| 12:45.11 | liberty | try lsmod |
| 12:45.19 | azeem | wesley: /sbin/modprobe |
| 12:45.30 | liberty | locate modprobe |
| 12:45.35 | _weissi | texttool_eddy: thanks! the time has come, that I can tell everyone who is interested in mutt how he can use it with e.g. a freemail provider without beeing root ;-)) |
| 12:45.48 | liberty | md5sum modprobe |
| 12:45.50 | _weissi | thank you all! |
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| 12:46.00 | _weissi | bye, I'm gonna try this... |
| 12:46.17 | liberty | azeem, wtf? |
| 12:46.32 | liberty | what i do? |
| 12:47.38 | liberty | azeem, http://sacxtremetv.com/sacxtra/main.php (SacXtra!) |
| 12:48.20 | liberty | i got NO reason to fight with you or Anyone ni ##debian or #debian |
| 12:48.28 | texttool_eddy | gonna paint some walls, bye! |
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| 12:48.58 | liberty | I just wonder if it's legal paint or illegal painting |
| 12:49.18 | liberty | both are cool art |
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| 12:50.06 | liberty | azeem, !KaaBlam |
| 12:50.28 | liberty | what lang was that?! |
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| 12:52.09 | runa_ | hey :) does anyone has firefox 1.5 for amd64? |
| 12:52.18 | ricky_clarkson | Has anyone does english?! |
| 12:52.38 | azeem | liberty: please stay on topic in #debian, if you want to talk about off-topic stuff, do it in #debian-offtopic or whereever |
| 12:52.41 | liberty | .us + .?? |
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| 12:52.55 | ricky_clarkson | liberty: And bear in mind that I own #debian-offtopic. ;) |
| 12:53.03 | liberty | really? |
| 12:53.08 | ricky_clarkson | Really. |
| 12:53.11 | liberty | okay |
| 12:53.19 | wishkah | what user priviliges does apache have by default? username? |
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| 12:53.24 | liberty | I own SacXtra! |
| 12:54.02 | jethro | wishkah: www-data on debian |
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| 12:54.21 | tomo | hi, firefox (debian, sarge) does not display the ancient greek script of http://home.unilang.org/main/softwareman/unicodetest.html. Which skript should I install? |
| 12:54.37 | tomo | script |
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| 12:55.04 | liberty | I do not want to cause no problems I try to help folks figure, && configure their *nix to the best of my ficking ability. So get mad at me at your will, I already don't want to say hello in #SuSE anymore. MR. Owner of the CHannel |
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| 12:55.22 | eXa_bOy | lol |
| 12:55.38 | wishkah | jethro: strange |
| 12:55.42 | eXa_bOy | i think your a cool guy liberty |
| 12:55.50 | wishkah | jethro: shouldn't /var/www be owned by that user then? |
| 12:55.54 | jethro | !aolify liberty |
| 12:55.55 | liberty | yeah BUT . where's my boy? |
| 12:55.57 | wishkah | jethro: after the apt-get |
| 12:55.59 | jethro | wishkah: no |
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| 12:56.22 | jethro | wishkah: DocumentRoot being root owned is a good default, and is the debian default |
| 12:56.23 | liberty | I guess in the mirror |
| 12:56.38 | wishkah | jethro: okay. |
| 12:56.58 | liberty | man . I already need to re-install |
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| 12:57.16 | liberty | danm |
| 12:57.19 | blvszcz | hi, is there any package to generate html page with information about deb packages? |
| 12:57.32 | blvszcz | for example, i've got my own repository |
| 12:57.44 | blvszcz | and i want to generate html page with information about this pacakges |
| 12:57.49 | azeem | blvszcz: you could look at what is used for packages.d.o, but that might be overkill |
| 12:58.10 | liberty | I wanna machine translate into 33 languages |
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| 12:58.17 | liberty | is that overkill? |
| 12:58.18 | blvszcz | azeem: for example http://debian.wgdd.de/debian/ |
| 12:58.38 | ricky_clarkson | liberty: morte en masse. |
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| 12:58.52 | liberty | come in death? |
| 12:58.58 | liberty | y/N =? |
| 12:59.00 | mejo | tomo: you need to find other unicode fonts which support these characters, i guess. |
| 12:59.03 | bibe | hi, how can I make a sarge web server use tomcat5? Is it better to install it by hand or should I do apt-pinning with testing repositories? |
| 12:59.05 | ricky_clarkson | liberty: |
| 12:59.14 | liberty | yeah UTF I have missing in deb |
| 12:59.23 | blvszcz | bibe: install java 1.5 using java-package |
| 12:59.29 | ricky_clarkson | no uso UTF aqui. |
| 12:59.32 | blvszcz | bibe: then download tomcat from apache page |
| 12:59.33 | bibe | blvszcz : yes, and then? |
| 12:59.42 | blvszcz | bibe: then use catalina.sh |
| 12:59.43 | blvszcz | :) |
| 12:59.45 | eXa_bOy | my fkn server locks up when trying ot wget a file :( what log can i look at? |
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| 13:00.18 | bibe | blvszcz : thank you! and what about using tomcat5 packages from testing repositories? |
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| 13:00.36 | liberty | no tienne transmitto utfee aqui en los satanas-servas |
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| 13:00.39 | eXa_bOy | putty cracks the shits saying its a networking issue, so something is unhappy |
| 13:00.43 | TheJasco | salce |
| 13:00.51 | TheJasco | salve |
| 13:00.54 | bibe | blvszcz : they come with useful scripts and they receive security updates from etch-testing |
| 13:01.03 | bibe | TheJasco : ciao |
| 13:01.25 | liberty | whoopsie |
| 13:01.35 | liberty | .it ciao |
| 13:01.39 | blvszcz | bibe: propably |
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| 13:01.44 | liberty | whoop whoop |
| 13:01.49 | eXa_bOy | anyone? |
| 13:02.03 | liberty | exa? scrollin back0r |
| 13:02.06 | liberty | i am |
| 13:02.14 | TheJasco | ciao |
| 13:02.14 | liberty | .......... |
| 13:02.16 | TheJasco | :D |
| 13:02.18 | liberty | kicj uo' |
| 13:02.26 | liberty | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.33 | liberty | killall -9 wget |
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| 13:02.44 | liberty | ~p00f~ |
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| 13:02.58 | liberty | next |
| 13:03.17 | jethro | !pal liberty |
| 13:03.24 | eXa_bOy | if i do a ifdown -a then ifup -a it works again |
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| 13:03.40 | itu_ | can anyone here point me in the right direction as to how i'd build a debian package from a source tree? |
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| 13:03.55 | liberty | I like server dial server hangup myserf |
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| 13:05.24 | liberty | the danger isb . . . Can John 6-PACK Do3 . . . guess my pass, port, time, pass, nick, name0r |
| 13:05.50 | liberty | and I so0000 want some port knockin LOL |
| 13:06.04 | azeem | itu_: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 13:06.20 | liberty | azeem, for port knocking? |
| 13:06.23 | jm_ | itu_: from Debian source tree? |
| 13:06.40 | itu_ | thanks guys, well this is my situation. |
| 13:06.48 | liberty | you gotta just write your own rng |
| 13:07.03 | liberty | or whatever uses up ALL memory |
| 13:07.04 | x3me | failed because search permissions are missing on a component of the path |
| 13:07.06 | x3me | what the fuck?! |
| 13:07.09 | x3me | in apache |
| 13:07.18 | liberty | x = x +1 |
| 13:07.23 | itu_ | i have to compile alot of software and i don't like sprinkling compiled software from tarballs across my system. i'd like to be able to install/remove them the debian way.. any suggestions? |
| 13:07.31 | liberty | lol |
| 13:07.48 | liberty | I gonna figure out somthing cool soon |
| 13:07.55 | jm_ | is this software not in Debian? either do it the hard way and learn how to package stuff or use checkinstall, which is not that much of an improvement |
| 13:07.56 | eXa_bOy | is there a better alternative to wget? something that can resume downlaods? |
| 13:07.56 | itu_ | is the maint-guide really the way to go? looks like overkill. |
| 13:08.00 | liberty | not some lifetime acchievement |
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| 13:08.07 | x3me | eXa_bOy, wget -c |
| 13:08.12 | eXa_bOy | ta |
| 13:08.33 | eXa_bOy | thanks x3me :D |
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| 13:09.05 | eXa_bOy | saved me 60 MB :D |
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| 13:09.17 | itu_ | jm_ some is in debian, but some isn't. there are problems with the debian packages being compiled with a version off gcc i can't use and thus have linking errors when i compile my own software (which requires >=gcc-3.4. |
| 13:09.32 | itu_ | s/off/of |
| 13:10.14 | itu_ | jm_ for this reason Ubuntu looks like a smarter system to develop on, as it seems the ABI stuff has more continuity across packages per dist. |
| 13:10.22 | liberty | hahahahah compile tg3 driver as kernel-module gcc: couldn't run `i486-linux-gcc-ersion': No such file or directory |
| 13:10.42 | liberty | hahaha whaaaaaaa! |
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| 13:12.35 | Shephi | Hello, im trying to make my kernel.....i get source and end make menuconfig.....but now manual said about use "fakeroot", but dont existe that command.....it need some extra package? |
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| 13:13.37 | Shadowcat | uhh |
| 13:13.43 | Shadowcat | if you have to ask how you compile a kernel |
| 13:13.46 | Shadowcat | you shouldn't be doing it |
| 13:13.46 | jharrisonwk | anyone have a wrtp54g from linksys? |
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| 13:14.33 | Greek-Boy | Do I only need to download debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso to install the operating system? |
| 13:14.42 | Greek-Boy | then i can install the packages i want by downloading them? |
| 13:14.50 | andax | Greek-Boy: yes |
| 13:14.50 | eXa_bOy | liberty : that doqnload i continued was corrupted :( |
| 13:14.55 | Shephi | Shadowcat my first kernel recompile. but i need it, my network card dont with with original kernel |
| 13:14.59 | andax | on sarge which package contains "libXinerama.so.1" ? |
| 13:15.15 | abrotman | !tell andax about search |
| 13:15.19 | Greek-Boy | it will take me the whole week to download all the iso on my dedicated line but i wonder if its truly worth it |
| 13:15.22 | Greek-Boy | i dont think its worth it |
| 13:15.25 | Greek-Boy | u think so |
| 13:15.25 | Greek-Boy | ? |
| 13:15.33 | eXa_bOy | Greek-Boy : correct. you can then use apt-get to install other packages |
| 13:15.37 | jm_ | itu_: the hell it has more continuity than Debian stable |
| 13:15.44 | abrotman | !d-i Greek-Boy |
| 13:15.44 | dpkg | Greek-Boy, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 13:15.51 | eXa_bOy | lolo |
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| 13:16.11 | takatumi | Shephi: fakeroot is a package |
| 13:16.36 | eXa_bOy | Greek-Boy : might be worth asking a friend to download it. dial up is a nightmare |
| 13:16.47 | itu_ | jm_ stable is out of the question for my line of work. packages are many versions behind most of the dependencies the projects i work on require. |
| 13:16.49 | abrotman | or order them |
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| 13:17.21 | Shephi | takatumi thanks ^_^ |
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| 13:17.37 | itu_ | jm_ i develop desktop applications so i'm sure you can see why i cannot develop for/on debian stable. |
| 13:17.43 | ricky_clarkson | Greek-Boy: Malaka. |
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| 13:18.03 | bobslaede | mdoes anybody have any experience with usb modems_ |
| 13:18.04 | bobslaede | ? |
| 13:18.48 | jharrisonwk | but USB network devices ARE a good thing |
| 13:18.49 | ricky_clarkson | They work for me (Windows). |
| 13:18.58 | bobslaede | need it for sending faxes tho... |
| 13:19.02 | jharrisonwk | I love them |
| 13:19.03 | jm_ | itu_: I use stable on my desktop, can't say that I do ;) |
| 13:19.05 | eXa_bOy | usb wireless... thats just sad. |
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| 13:19.24 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: you lie! |
| 13:19.25 | jharrisonwk | hhmm what is this weird rash |
| 13:19.30 | itu_ | jm_ wow that's rare. congrats ;) |
| 13:19.37 | ricky_clarkson | jharrisonwk: USB feedback. |
| 13:19.41 | jharrisonwk | ricky_clarkson: hehe |
| 13:19.49 | jharrisonwk | ricky_clarkson: good one |
| 13:20.05 | abrotman | itu_: no . i do also |
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| 13:20.25 | abrotman | itu_: acutally .. on my laptop and work desktop |
| 13:20.35 | jharrisonwk | I have to crack my wrtp54g |
| 13:20.43 | jharrisonwk | there is ssh running on it |
| 13:20.47 | jharrisonwk | but I cant log into it |
| 13:20.50 | jharrisonwk | I bet vonage can though |
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| 13:20.55 | ricky_clarkson | I have two Debian machines, both in bits. |
| 13:20.55 | itu_ | abrotman: do you develop on stable? cairo, OpenGL, SDL, xorg? |
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| 13:21.10 | abrotman | itu_: i don't develop Thick client applications |
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| 13:21.16 | itu_ | abrotman: ok |
| 13:21.19 | abrotman | though i used to do SDL dev on Stable |
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| 13:21.23 | ricky_clarkson | I develop Stupid client applications. |
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| 13:21.27 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: thin client apps? |
| 13:21.30 | abrotman | but that was back when writing games was fun! |
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| 13:21.34 | itu_ | ricky_clarkson: there's quite a market for this |
| 13:21.43 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: thick vs (roughly everything else) |
| 13:21.48 | ricky_clarkson | itu_: I noticed. |
| 13:21.53 | King6887 | aFTERNOON |
| 13:21.57 | liberty | damn whered' all thos DROPs' come from? |
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| 13:22.01 | abrotman | hI |
| 13:22.01 | jharrisonwk | King6887: you mean MORNING |
| 13:22.07 | King6887 | not in UK |
| 13:22.15 | azeem | itu_: well, if you need newer upstream releases (or CVS) for such stuff, you could just update the unstable Debian packages (or sometimes, newer versions are in experimental) |
| 13:22.20 | jharrisonwk | King6887: im not in the UK |
| 13:22.20 | eXa_bOy | not in AUS? |
| 13:22.26 | Shephi | after read "man fakeroot", really i dont need it if im root, do i? |
| 13:22.32 | ricky_clarkson | In the UK it's nearly dentist time. |
| 13:22.33 | azeem | itu_: if you are developing for GNOME, the Ubuntu development version might be better suited |
| 13:22.39 | King6887 | yes it is |
| 13:22.40 | liberty | that makes me want to throw up |
| 13:22.56 | liberty | Shephi USE ROOT |
| 13:22.59 | eXa_bOy | wget is a piece of shit |
| 13:23.05 | ricky_clarkson | eXa_bOy: wfm. |
| 13:23.11 | abrotman | liberty: don't tell him that |
| 13:23.14 | Shephi | liberty i know, im using root user |
| 13:23.15 | itu_ | azeem: no, i'm not working on/with gnome itself |
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| 13:23.24 | eXa_bOy | keeps locking yp |
| 13:23.26 | liberty | eXa_bOy, flashget rocks |
| 13:23.34 | King6887 | anyone help me an install, problem? < complete idiot |
| 13:23.36 | liberty | never locks up |
| 13:23.47 | eXa_bOy | there must be a reason though |
| 13:23.51 | King6887 | man that comma was in the wrong place... |
| 13:23.52 | beardy | King6887: Just ask. |
| 13:23.59 | eXa_bOy | cause locking up is a windows thing... |
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| 13:24.18 | liberty | wget ain't a "poice of shite" |
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| 13:24.27 | beardy | eXa_bOy: What do you mean by "locking up"? |
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| 13:24.41 | King6887 | put DVD in, boot up, hit enter, Loads stuff for CDs and stops on 94% "firewire CD support" |
| 13:24.45 | liberty | wget does not "lock up" |
| 13:24.46 | King6887 | and doesn't do anything |
| 13:24.52 | eXa_bOy | well during a download it just stops... and soesnt do anything |
| 13:24.58 | liberty | it don't get everything though |
| 13:25.08 | King6887 | wget worked fine for me... |
| 13:25.09 | liberty | wget -c |
| 13:25.12 | liberty | then |
| 13:25.15 | eXa_bOy | yeah im using that |
| 13:25.29 | liberty | then the server is "locked up" |
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| 13:25.38 | eXa_bOy | weird |
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| 13:26.03 | beardy | eXa_bOy: That has nothing to do with the program, more likely the place where you downloaded from got some bandwidth problems, or the like, or you. |
| 13:26.19 | eXa_bOy | http://pastebin.com/383777 |
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| 13:26.25 | liberty | if all else fails links or lynx or w3m or |
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| 13:26.53 | beardy | eXa_bOy: install bzip2 |
| 13:26.57 | eXa_bOy | after continuing the dl about 4 times i get the file and that error is called. |
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| 13:27.09 | eXa_bOy | ffs... doesnt tar handle that? |
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| 13:27.17 | abrotman | eXa_bOy: wget -b -c yoururl |
| 13:27.24 | cahoot | eXa_bOy: barking at the wrong tree it seems |
| 13:27.30 | Phroziac | what package do i need to ipkg configure to set up the clock stuff again? |
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| 13:27.42 | abrotman | !ntp |
| 13:27.42 | dpkg | methinks ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 13:27.44 | eXa_bOy | well im just following orders in a tutorial |
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| 13:27.54 | abrotman | eXa_bOy: why are you compiling your kernel? |
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| 13:28.03 | eXa_bOy | installing vserver |
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| 13:28.07 | Phroziac | My ntp is fine. I need to set the timezone and stuff. |
| 13:28.20 | abrotman | tzconfig |
| 13:28.23 | paulswm | Phroziac: Or you can use chrony, which is my personal preference |
| 13:28.27 | Phroziac | ok |
| 13:28.35 | abrotman | eXa_bOy: and you're getting from kernel.org ? |
| 13:28.49 | eXa_bOy | wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.12.5.tar.bz2 |
| 13:28.56 | eXa_bOy | yes |
| 13:28.59 | abrotman | wget -b -c http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.12.5.tar.bz2 |
| 13:29.09 | eXa_bOy | http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6 <----- thats the guide. |
| 13:29.13 | liberty | rdate -clock.psu.edu #sets the time && hwclock --systohc #syncs the hardware clock |
| 13:29.15 | abrotman | eXa_bOy: or find a mirror |
| 13:29.31 | abrotman | liberty: you should always use pool.ntp.org |
| 13:29.41 | Phroziac | hmm, that was already set right. But for some reason my system has mysteriously decided to start using UTC for all purposes. |
| 13:29.44 | abrotman | leave poor PSU alone .. thier webmail is busted and thier football team sucks |
| 13:29.53 | eXa_bOy | its ok ive got the file now.... just takes 3 -5 goes. |
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| 13:30.02 | liberty | football lol |
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| 13:30.14 | beardy | !lol |
| 13:30.14 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 13:30.35 | jethro | @lol |
| 13:30.36 | ravenbird | lol in no way resembles the sound that is produced while "Laughing Out Loud", so it looks very lame when you say it; use "heh" or "haha" instead or use an action ("/me laughs") 'lol' is also not punctuation. See also: loll, or peterS does interesting things if you do this and he's in the mood ;P |
| 13:30.38 | abrotman | sounds about right |
| 13:30.42 | jethro | geez |
| 13:30.43 | paulswm | liberty: rdate is normally a dumb way to set a clock on a running system, one usually wants the correction to be made gradually. |
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| 13:30.47 | liberty | or heh heh heh heh heh heh heh like in the bbs days |
| 13:30.59 | itu_ | jethro: they're a bit precious around here aren't they ;) |
| 13:31.05 | liberty | i want it fastly |
| 13:31.11 | abrotman | and stupidly |
| 13:31.15 | liberty | at *my* time |
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| 13:31.29 | jethro | abrotman: stupidty is of no concern to him, you will notice |
| 13:31.31 | abrotman | why not just ping the crap out of the nist clock |
| 13:31.32 | paulswm | OK I see what you mean now, he's obviously an idiot |
| 13:31.36 | guven | how can i install utf-8 on my system (sarge) |
| 13:31.43 | abrotman | guven: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:31.55 | liberty | no . don't ping any URL/URI i posted |
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| 13:32.23 | liberty | you supposed to REPLACE.THE.ADDRESS.WTF! |
| 13:32.33 | beardy | ? |
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| 13:32.47 | itu_ | liberty: are you talking to yourself? |
| 13:32.59 | guven | abrotman: thats all? great, thank you |
| 13:33.06 | liberty | itu_ checking . . . . . . . . |
| 13:33.12 | abrotman | guven: should work .. not all apps do utf8 though |
| 13:33.18 | jethro | !sedate liberty |
| 13:33.21 | liberty | ther's some folks talking b.s. to me |
| 13:33.22 | eXa_bOy | the eggdrop channel are a bunch of nazis... man never install it and have issues |
| 13:33.23 | itu_ | strange. anyway, bye |
| 13:33.31 | itu_ | abrotman, jm_ thanks |
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| 13:33.35 | Ronin | eXa_bOy: they do expect you to fix it yourself |
| 13:33.36 | King6887 | so anyone know of any reason y the install hangs at a certain point??? |
| 13:33.46 | guven | abrotman: does vim? |
| 13:33.48 | Ronin | eggs are that hard though so its not a big deal |
| 13:33.54 | beardy | !y |
| 13:33.54 | abrotman | guven: god .. i would hope so |
| 13:33.54 | dpkg | it has been said that y is http://www.y-windows.org/, or it's "why", not y. w h y. see u, any1. NOT a substitute for I. If you mean yourself in the first person use 'I' and not 'y'. |
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| 13:34.06 | abrotman | King6887: try linux26 |
| 13:34.24 | King6887 | put DVD in, boot up, hit enter, Loads stuff for CDs and stops on 94% "firewire CD support" |
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| 13:34.36 | liberty | itu_tcp_ipt_etho=YES |
| 13:34.37 | eXa_bOy | whats the point? jeus like anyone wants to become a eggdrop nerd just to have some shitty bot idle in your channel |
| 13:34.39 | beardy | King6887: or expert26, but linux26 first. |
| 13:34.40 | King6887 | linux26 at the boot prompt i presume? |
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| 13:34.55 | beardy | King6887: Yes. |
| 13:35.12 | King6887 | ta |
| 13:35.29 | liberty | okay that was bad advice for anyone.. where what's his name with the BorderBand0r modprobe0r problem |
| 13:35.30 | King6887 | guess i'll be back l8r if it still doesn't work |
| 13:35.31 | Ronin | eXa_bOy: not all networks are like freenode, many need eggdrops just to keep the channel active |
| 13:35.42 | abrotman | liberty: stop being a tard |
| 13:35.50 | liberty | sleepy tired trying to help - FY! |
| 13:35.54 | beardy | liberty: what are you on about? |
| 13:36.09 | abrotman | he's failed his IQ test and he's here to prove it |
| 13:36.09 | beardy | liberty: FY? |
| 13:36.16 | abrotman | beardy: Fuck you |
| 13:36.18 | abrotman | er You |
| 13:36.24 | paulswm | liberty: rdate was also bad advice, if you don't know what you're talking about stop giving advice |
| 13:36.26 | beardy | abrotman: The same to you ;) |
| 13:36.33 | abrotman | beardy: i was translating! |
| 13:36.38 | beardy | abrotman: I know :) |
| 13:36.43 | xelam | hasn't liberty been banned yet? :) |
| 13:36.44 | liberty | okay what then instead of rdate h-something? |
| 13:36.54 | abrotman | i already showed him .. |
| 13:36.59 | abrotman | you're slow/late/wrong |
| 13:37.00 | liberty | time something |
| 13:37.09 | liberty | I dunno . I only know what I said |
| 13:37.12 | abrotman | if you're tired .. go to bed |
| 13:37.13 | eXa_bOy | Ronin i was tryign to start my own network, but gave up after 9 hours of frustration and 1 hour of RTFM!!!! |
| 13:37.23 | jethro | liberty: you don't *have* to help you know. there are people knowledgeable enough to do it much better than you. not to mention the sober people. |
| 13:37.24 | liberty | if it *was* wrong . I am sorry |
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| 13:37.33 | paulswm | liberty: chrony or ntp |
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| 13:37.39 | beardy | eXa_bOy: You would have succeded if you switched the hours. |
| 13:37.40 | abrotman | ntpdate |
| 13:37.54 | eXa_bOy | not funny |
| 13:38.05 | Ronin | eXa_bOy: 9 hours to set up a bot? should be able to do 9+ in that time frame |
| 13:38.08 | liberty | it sure the 1134 ain't time.microsoft.com |
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| 13:38.56 | beardy | eXa_bOy: Try another bot instead. |
| 13:39.01 | liberty | okay . I do not want to be P-banned from #debian so I will go to sleep |
| 13:39.05 | Ronin | liberty: stop smoking what ever it is your smoking |
| 13:39.05 | abrotman | why not? .. time.microsoft.com works just fine |
| 13:39.08 | jethro | liberty: thank you. |
| 13:39.20 | paulswm | It's a bad idea to suddenly change the time on a unix system you could end up getting filestamps appearing to be in the future and all kinds of confusion |
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| 13:39.49 | abrotman | paulswm: suddenly for some values of "large" |
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| 13:41.12 | beardy | Netwalker, haven't seen that one before.. |
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| 13:42.26 | paulswm | abrotman: yes, or the other way you could get scheduled tasks running twice, or time-based pruges could remove much more than you expect, etc |
| 13:43.47 | wishkah | sudo mysqladmin -u root password ' |
| 13:44.00 | wishkah | why doesn't it let me connect using mysql -u root -p ? |
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| 13:44.38 | abrotman | paulswm: i mean .. 2 seconds shouldn't kill you .. 2 hours .. that's bad :) |
| 13:44.41 | stew | wishkah: you never need sudo with mysqladmin |
| 13:44.45 | wishkah | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 13:44.45 | stew | wishkah: did you just install mysql? |
| 13:44.56 | wishkah | stew: yes, just apt-get'ed it |
| 13:44.57 | stew | wishkah: have you setup a root password for mysql yet? |
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| 13:45.03 | stew | wishkah: read /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/* |
| 13:45.08 | wishkah | yes, I did mysqladmin -u root password 'something' |
| 13:45.11 | paulswm | abrotman: Well yeah sure |
| 13:45.23 | stew | wishkah: particularly the README.Debian |
| 13:45.38 | paulswm | abrotman: I'm off, as the entertainment has apparently left :) |
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| 13:45.53 | abrotman | paulswm: though .. i've done the .. "Crap .. i should have ran NTP first .. this machine has been off for 2 years .. and now it thinks it's 1985 and Debbie Gibson is cool" |
| 13:45.58 | abrotman | ack! |
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| 13:46.26 | stew | you have to do more than change a computer clock to make debbie gibson cool |
| 13:46.36 | abrotman | stew: nudity? |
| 13:46.59 | stew | you've got a much better chance with thta one |
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| 13:47.58 | tonix | hi guys, i'm using stable/testing/unstable versions of debian. where debian store the samba users whith the shadows password? where is the smbpasswd file??? thanks |
| 13:48.03 | Petaris | I get an apparent buffer overrun when trying to burn a data cd with k3b 0.12.4 with a 2.6.11 kernel |
| 13:48.37 | fireba11 | is there a command (mybe ps option?) that gives me the total CPU time a process took so far ? |
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| 13:48.44 | fireba11 | can't find any |
| 13:49.31 | Petaris | fireball: I think you need to trap the command inside a time operation |
| 13:49.41 | Petaris | thats the only way I know |
| 13:49.51 | petemc | perhaps sar could do that |
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| 13:50.07 | vorsprung | fireba11, ps -l, TIME field. See man ps for a hundred and one other ways to do this :) |
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| 13:51.06 | stew | tonix: it's got to be in either /etc/samba or /var/lib/samba, check those and the smbpasswd manpage |
| 13:51.24 | tonix | thanks stew |
| 13:51.27 | tonix | i'm looking |
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| 13:52.10 | tonix | it seems debian stores users and password in /var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb |
| 13:52.27 | tonix | but this file is a binary file |
| 13:52.27 | Alver | Hello. Has anyone got some experience with kinput2 + uim for japanese input? I'm trying to set it up, and it works for xterm, but all other apps I try don't do the trick. |
| 13:52.35 | tonix | i need something like smbpasswd test file... |
| 13:52.46 | tonix | ..text file i mean |
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| 13:53.30 | fireba11 | hm .. too much hazzle .. just was curious how much CPU my backup process takes |
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| 13:54.32 | stew | tonix: i think that means that you chose encryption when you setup samba. dpkg-reconfigure samba |
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| 13:55.31 | tonix | do you think? now i reconfigure samba with dpkg-reconfigure. thanks for the moment |
| 13:55.43 | feluco | giris de mierda |
| 13:55.45 | wesley | people, the debian, cannot reconize my sound card |
| 13:55.46 | Alver | Or is there a japanese linux/debian channel where I could ask this? |
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| 13:55.51 | wesley | pelase help me..] |
| 13:55.54 | feluco | giris hijos de puta |
| 13:55.58 | pureone | ~jp |
| 13:56.00 | apt | rumour has it, jp is Japan |
| 13:56.00 | feluco | girufos de mieda |
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| 13:56.06 | beardy | fireba11: ps -l $(pidof backupprogramprscript), the TIME field? |
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| 13:56.13 | stew | !japanese |
| 13:56.13 | dpkg | i guess japanese is #debian-japanese Turning japanese i think i'm turning japanese i really think so! |
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| 13:57.02 | Dazgar1 | hi |
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| 13:57.14 | Dazgar1 | anyone using debian horde/imp4 here please ? |
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| 13:57.26 | beardy | !ask |
| 13:57.26 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:57.34 | mypapit | !kernel |
| 13:57.36 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.13.3, prepatch: 2.6.14-rc3, snapshot: 2.6.14-rc3-git4, 2.4: 2.4.31, prepatch: 2.4.32-rc1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.14-rc2-mm2 |
| 13:57.44 | fireba11 | beardy: TIME is the total CPU time ? |
| 13:58.02 | beardy | fireba11: I think so. |
| 13:58.48 | fireba11 | 0:00 running for a week now ^^ so no use caring about it i guess :-) |
| 13:59.07 | stew | Dazgar1: that reminds me, i have a bunch of bugs to file against imp / horde after setting it up yesterday |
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| 13:59.17 | beardy | fireba11: Do you get any backups made? |
| 13:59.28 | fireba11 | beardy: of course |
| 13:59.38 | fireba11 | about 50 gigs a day |
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| 13:59.50 | beardy | fireba11: Without one second of CPU work? |
| 14:00.16 | bobslaede | allright... still the usb modem i asked about before... See, if i take my digi cam (i know its not the same) plug it in, the usb thingy, will make as /dev/sda but why wont this stupid computer make a /dev/slusb og /dev/ttyACM or whatever when i plug in my modem... what modules should i use, where could the problem be located_ |
| 14:00.20 | fireba11 | beardy: that is jsut the control program for it .. the database got a couple minutes, the storage component got a handfull of secs |
| 14:00.21 | bobslaede | ? |
| 14:00.26 | guevolt | What is happening? #du -sh Install 0 Install/ . Install is a folder of a ntfs partition. |
| 14:00.39 | Dazgar1 | stew: did you tried language changes ? |
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| 14:00.47 | beardy | fireba11: Ok. |
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| 14:00.49 | cantona | which package generate /etc/ld.so.conf? |
| 14:00.54 | Dazgar1 | i've got no success |
| 14:01.19 | stew | Dazgar1: yeah they work well here |
| 14:01.24 | Dazgar1 | :s |
| 14:01.29 | stew | Dazgar1: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:01.53 | Dazgar1 | i juste want to change horde/imp4 language not the whole system |
| 14:01.54 | beardy | fireba11: A script of your own, or which backup program? |
| 14:02.02 | Dazgar1 | isn't that possible ? |
| 14:02.18 | stew | yes |
| 14:02.45 | fireba11 | beardy: bacula |
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| 14:04.20 | Digowz | alguem pode me ajuda com servidor DHCP ? |
| 14:04.28 | beardy | !br |
| 14:04.28 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:04.40 | Digowz | ohh ok! |
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| 14:05.23 | stew | wow, s.d.o is faster today than i've ever seen it, which is suprising |
| 14:05.37 | hutgyrr2 | whats s.d.o ? |
| 14:05.43 | stew | security.debian.org |
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| 14:05.48 | hutgyrr2 | aaah |
| 14:06.10 | vorsprung | stew, yeah it was fast for me too |
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| 14:07.08 | stew | vorsprung: its faster than yesterday by a factor of 2000 for me |
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| 14:07.48 | abrotman | pseubodo1: !!!!!!!!! |
| 14:08.01 | Zedman | hello. I have written a little script to have a comfortable install of the nvidia modules. If there is somebody who want to test it, go to http://zedman.byethost22.com/Scripts/ and download and check it. If there is somebody who want to hack the script and aprove it, send me a mail. |
| 14:08.16 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 14:08.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 14:08.51 | Zedman | it is specially or sarge. :-) |
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| 14:09.18 | beardy | damn, that was an ugly comment.. |
| 14:09.55 | Ana | oi |
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| 14:10.44 | stew | Zedman: what's the purpose of rebooting the machine? |
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| 14:11.17 | Zedman | stew: in fact restarting kdm is enough |
| 14:11.28 | Zedman | but it is more secure |
| 14:11.33 | abrotman | i don't use kdm .. your script is broken |
| 14:11.47 | Zedman | why is it broken? |
| 14:11.52 | Digowz | some1 can help me with DHCP server, i have a router, but it dont share internet with others comp! |
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| 14:12.15 | fireba11 | Digowz: wth ? |
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| 14:12.39 | fireba11 | Digowz: what got DHCP to do with that ? |
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| 14:12.51 | Zedman | there have been some problems with the nvidia modules on sarge. it is more secure to restart X or your machine. |
| 14:12.54 | jhonata | olá |
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| 14:13.12 | abrotman | Zedman: if they're running that script as root .. you can change thier settings for X for them |
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| 14:13.21 | mirak | hi |
| 14:13.30 | stew | Zedman: if my choices were "X or your machine" i'd certainly choose X |
| 14:13.30 | Digowz | fireba11 hmm.. duno. a guy told me DHCP ill be better share internet |
| 14:13.35 | zwack | I was screwing around with my dsl connection and ran pppoeconf - i shouldn't have done that |
| 14:13.36 | mirak | shouldn't explre2fs works with LVM ? |
| 14:13.42 | mirak | I can't see my partition |
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| 14:14.06 | beardy | !NAT |
| 14:14.06 | dpkg | hmm... nat is Network Address Translation. See also ipmasq, or patented by CISCO, or ip-masq is not exactly like NAT, the former is more flexible while the latter gains widely recognition. see also 'netfilter docs', or $BROWSER /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1 |
| 14:14.18 | fireba11 | Digowz: it is usually the easiest way to set it up, but not needed or anything |
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| 14:14.26 | zwack | pppoe is on the modem and now at bootup i get a message can read /etc/network/devices |
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| 14:14.52 | Digowz | fireba11 so, how i can share internet with more comps? my debian ill be a router. |
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| 14:15.25 | Zedman | stew: yeah, you are right. |
| 14:15.37 | zwack | how do i reset my connection settings to the default, i don't even have an ethernet light on my modem now.. |
| 14:15.53 | pzn | Hi. I'm using debian sarge/gcc3.4; when I compile my C program, it compiles ok without warnings. when I try to run, it returns "illegal instruction". I never saw this error before. what does it mean? can you give me a hint about how to start debugging it? thanks in advance. |
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| 14:16.13 | beardy | zwack: Use the copy of /etc/network/interfaces which you made before editing it. |
| 14:16.13 | zwack | abrotman, you there today? |
| 14:16.18 | abrotman | zwack: yes ? |
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| 14:16.23 | abrotman | am i where? |
| 14:16.32 | abrotman | etherconf ? |
| 14:16.37 | abrotman | mii-tool ? |
| 14:16.45 | abrotman | i don't have pppoe |
| 14:16.45 | zwack | abrotman, I screwed it up good |
| 14:16.55 | abrotman | that's what my mom says about me |
| 14:17.13 | zwack | abrotman, curiousity killed the cat and i am meowing |
| 14:17.23 | abrotman | i'm not sure what you've done |
| 14:17.30 | zwack | abrotman, me either |
| 14:17.37 | abrotman | zwack: what message/error do you get? |
| 14:17.51 | zwack | abrotman, i ran pppoeconf |
| 14:18.22 | zwack | beardy, didn't back it up, but maybe i can extract one from a package |
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| 14:19.14 | zwack | abrotman, i think it reads something like ifup can read /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:19.15 | abrotman | pppoeconf changes interfaces file ? |
| 14:19.29 | stew | Zedman: seems like maybe ending your script with "you need to restart X for these changes to take effect" might be the best option. you shouldn't just kill user programs without the user's explicit permission |
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| 14:19.53 | zwack | abrotman, apherently |
| 14:20.10 | AigleNoir | hello. I'm trying to install nvidia driver using module-assistant for a the stable version and kernel 2.6.8. I followed the instructions of a book |
| 14:20.18 | AigleNoir | i did |
| 14:20.26 | AigleNoir | apt-get install nvidia-glx |
| 14:20.50 | AigleNoir | m-a update |
| 14:20.54 | AigleNoir | m-a prepare |
| 14:21.05 | AigleNoir | then m-a build nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 14:21.29 | jethro | !tell AigleNoir -about enter |
| 14:21.33 | AigleNoir | error: it can't build |
| 14:21.36 | Zedman | stew: I will change it. Its maybe better this way. |
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| 14:22.06 | imageek | what is m-a? |
| 14:22.07 | abrotman | zwack: what did you change about your pppoe conf ? |
| 14:22.09 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 14:22.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 14:22.15 | imageek | oh.. duh |
| 14:22.26 | jethro | imageek: module-assistant. |
| 14:22.36 | AigleNoir | i used module-assistant |
| 14:22.41 | zwack | abrotman, i just followed the default options on pppoeconf |
| 14:22.54 | AigleNoir | do you know an url up to date that explain this |
| 14:22.55 | abrotman | that should have read your old choices |
| 14:23.21 | AigleNoir | imageek: m-a = module-assistant |
| 14:23.22 | zwack | abrotman, pppoe was never running before, pppoe is on the modem not linux |
| 14:23.23 | bnoji | I still haven't been able to find a good solution to backup a single server. (I need 40GB, removable and external) |
| 14:23.25 | beardy | !tell AigleNoir about nvidia one liner |
| 14:23.26 | jethro | !tell AigleNoir -about nvidia one liner |
| 14:23.29 | pzn | will I have "illegal instruction" errors using 2.6.8-2-386 on an AMD-k6-450MHz? |
| 14:23.32 | jethro | bah |
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| 14:23.45 | zwack | abrotman, i used to connect automatically with dhcp |
| 14:23.45 | bnoji | I'm trying to keep th total cost under $300 |
| 14:23.49 | beardy | jethro: What does "-about" do different than "about"? |
| 14:23.56 | AigleNoir | what mean !tell ....? |
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| 14:24.09 | beardy | AigleNoir: Read the message dpkg told you. |
| 14:24.22 | jethro | beardy: when using -about, dpkg doesn't tell you about the factoid. it just says it told the factoid to the target |
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| 14:24.35 | AigleNoir | i didn't use dpkg |
| 14:24.39 | jethro | beardy: try by yourself |
| 14:24.39 | beardy | jethro: Ah, ok. |
| 14:24.49 | jethro | AigleNoir: dpkg as the bot in #debian |
| 14:24.56 | AigleNoir | oh sorry |
| 14:24.59 | AigleNoir | thanks |
| 14:25.03 | pzn | AigleNoir, "!tell" will be captured by the channel robot, and it will do something, like sending you a message about a subject... |
| 14:25.15 | AigleNoir | thanks pzn |
| 14:25.32 | jethro | AigleNoir: didn't you receive any private message by dpkg ? |
| 14:25.40 | guevolt | I have a problem. My flag boot is a ntfs partition. I have 2 OS in this server. Debian and win 2003. I want remove this ntfs partition and create a eext3 partition. The problem is the boot sector. look /dev/hda1 * NTFS /dev/hda2-5 linux hda6 swap. What i do? can i just remove the partition ntfs and make a ext3 partition? Will i have some problem with the boot sect |
| 14:25.51 | AigleNoir | !tell AigleNoir -about nvidia one liner |
| 14:26.04 | Jayson | can i load iso in pxelinux ? |
| 14:26.25 | jethro | AigleNoir: one usually doesn't !tell himself, but use "/msg dpkg <factoid>" where nvidia one liner is the factoid you want. |
| 14:26.30 | guven | the euro-symbol does not appear in eterm but in console f2-f6 it works, can someone help? |
| 14:26.47 | beardy | AigleNoir: If you want to ask dpkg about anything, you can send a private message to him, like this: /msg dpkg factoid |
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| 14:27.28 | AigleNoir | ok.sorry |
| 14:27.30 | tgwj | guevolt, you will have to install a boot loader like GRUB or LILO, but re-partitioning does not touch the MBR |
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| 14:28.48 | tgwj | guven maybe eterm is using a character set that does not support ?uro. ASCII and ISO-8859-1 (Latin1) do not. ISO-8859-15 (Latin9) and UTF-8 do. |
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| 14:29.36 | guevolt | tgwj: then can i remove the ntfs partition without worry with the boot sector ? |
| 14:29.42 | tgwj | guven check echo $LANG and your terminal's settings. |
| 14:29.56 | Jayson | can i install debian from nfs ?? |
| 14:30.00 | curt | ... |
| 14:30.01 | tgwj | guevolt, exactly. but to boot you'll need a boot loader of course. |
| 14:30.09 | Jayson | can i install debian from nfs ?? or samba |
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| 14:30.42 | guevolt | tgwj: ok. but the boot loader don't stay on boot sector ? |
| 14:30.54 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 14:30.58 | tgwj | it will stay in the MBR |
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| 14:31.16 | guevolt | tgwj: yep. hhehe. |
| 14:31.37 | tgwj | Jayson, I think you can install from NFS. at least if you tell the installer to enter a shell and mount it there. |
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| 14:32.08 | guevolt | tgwj: what app do you recommend? fdisk to do this ? |
| 14:32.49 | bnoji | Can anyone suggest an external tape drive for under $300, or an alternative? |
| 14:33.04 | tgwj | fdisk will work fine, except if you want to permanently get rid of the data (so that not even the police will find it) |
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| 14:33.15 | Jayson | tgwj my notebook don't have cdrom, i'm installing via pxe, like a install from nfs ? |
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| 14:33.47 | guven | tgwj: i did dpkg-reconfigure locales and took de_DE.UTF-8(at)euro UTF-8, do i have to export $LANG=de_DE.UTF-8(at)euro UTF-8 too? |
| 14:33.56 | tgwj | Jayson, do you have access to a debian mirror via NFS ? |
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| 14:34.29 | Jayson | yes, my debian mirror is one image of debian netinst |
| 14:34.35 | tgwj | guven, check what $LANG is at the mo. |
| 14:34.38 | Jayson | tgwj yes, my debian mirror is one image of debian netinst |
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| 14:34.47 | guevolt | i dont worry with this * on that ntfs partiton ,right ? /dev/hda1 * 1 3621 29085651 7 HPFS/NTFS |
| 14:34.52 | J_P | hi all |
| 14:34.57 | tgwj | Jayson, I say just try it. |
| 14:35.08 | J_P | people, anyone know one tutorial with trac+subversion on sarge ? |
| 14:35.30 | guven | tgwj: checked it, its not utf-8 |
| 14:35.36 | tgwj | guevolt, the * means that DOS bootloaders will try to boot from that first. irrelevant |
| 14:35.49 | tgwj | guven, edit /etc/environment |
| 14:36.20 | guevolt | tgwj: ok. have other app to do this ? |
| 14:36.21 | tgwj | if you're using GDM, you might have to select the correct language. |
| 14:37.07 | tgwj | guevolt, you don't want to use fdisk ? cfdisk, qtparted do the same thing. |
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| 14:37.42 | Jayson | tgwj how to mount nfs in hdinstall ? |
| 14:37.47 | guevolt | tgwj: humm. i was trying to remember the cfdisk. thanks |
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| 14:38.42 | feross | hey to look at an app.log.gz file I can do 'gunzip app.log.gz>less' and it will throw the stuff into less but the file should remain .gz right? or how would I go about doing that? don't want to gunzip a whole bunch of files for nothing. |
| 14:38.55 | tgwj | Jayson, I'd say press Alt-F2 to get to a console and mount it with 'mkdir /mnt/nfs; mount server:/whatever /mnt/nfs' |
| 14:38.56 | abrotman | feross: zless |
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| 14:39.12 | feross | abrotman: ohh perfect thanks |
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| 14:41.57 | rndr | hello, i'm a beginner in linux and i have a problem, i can't get the sources.list or somethinge because i can't install stuff, like xchat or some thinge, if i do apt-get install schat its says that he can't find the package |
| 14:42.18 | be0wulf__ | is it possible that my old computer has a problem with 2.6 kernels |
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| 14:42.23 | be0wulf__ | is there anything known? |
| 14:42.25 | tgwj | rndr it's called xchat not schat |
| 14:42.35 | rndr | i know |
| 14:42.36 | rndr | lol |
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| 14:42.45 | rndr | i did xchat |
| 14:42.54 | Facundo | °.^ :*. ; +.·,°·: manga de hijos de puita *.°:· +:*.^.®^.* |
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| 14:42.59 | Ronin | rndr: did you set up apt sources? |
| 14:43.00 | be0wulf__ | ychat |
| 14:43.01 | be0wulf__ | zchat |
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| 14:43.04 | tgwj | ok... i don't think it's the kernel. |
| 14:43.17 | rndr | i think so |
| 14:43.31 | rndr | i can do apt-get update and stuff |
| 14:43.35 | tgwj | what is in /etc/apt/sources.list (or in synaptic there is a repo menu) |
| 14:43.51 | be0wulf__ | well during the installation it already crashes with 2.6 kernel |
| 14:44.04 | be0wulf__ | but with the 2.4 kernel it works |
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| 14:44.56 | tgwj | be0wulf__, sry i thought your Q was by rndr |
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| 14:45.19 | be0wulf__ | i c |
| 14:45.33 | be0wulf__ | well doesn't matter gonna take the 2.4 kernel then |
| 14:45.36 | rndr | what do i have to do now?:/ |
| 14:45.38 | yacyac | what do i need to do after installing the base install of 48mb |
| 14:45.50 | Ronin | yacyac: depends on what you want to do |
| 14:45.53 | tgwj | yacyac what is your goal ? |
| 14:46.09 | yacyac | i need to get a gui |
| 14:46.18 | abrotman | rndr: apt-setup |
| 14:46.20 | be0wulf__ | it's only gonna be cupsd on and maybe some private php-mysql-apache |
| 14:46.23 | tgwj | gnome or kde ? or both ? |
| 14:46.25 | yacyac | tgwj i will need to get x working right |
| 14:46.34 | yacyac | i guess ob3 |
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| 14:46.47 | be0wulf__ | jup |
| 14:46.49 | rndr | abrotman: ok |
| 14:46.58 | abrotman | rndr: pick an http source |
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| 14:47.22 | be0wulf__ | well yacyac it should go on then |
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| 14:47.31 | be0wulf__ | otherwise just execute base-config |
| 14:47.49 | be0wulf__ | there u can install your gui stuff |
| 14:47.57 | abrotman | !u |
| 14:47.57 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:48.03 | yacyac | thanks |
| 14:48.05 | abrotman | jim: sorry :) |
| 14:48.15 | be0wulf__ | *g* |
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| 14:48.17 | be0wulf__ | èu |
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| 14:48.25 | be0wulf__ | !u |
| 14:48.26 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:48.34 | rndr | abrotman: http proxy? |
| 14:48.41 | be0wulf__ | don't see the difference @abrotman |
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| 14:48.46 | rndr | abrotman: i don't info |
| 14:48.47 | abrotman | rndr: dunno if you have one |
| 14:48.47 | Iam8up | dpkg - very nice bind =) |
| 14:48.54 | be0wulf__ | !i |
| 14:48.54 | dpkg | i heard i is the imaginary unit, the square root of -1 and other nifty things, or the chemical symbol to iodine and a personal pronoun together with me, my and myself, or roman numeral for 1, or the letter between h and j, or commonly used as an iteration counter, or rapidly becomming the most tacked-on factoid. used as a block index in much of the rsync code |
| 14:48.54 | rndr | abrotman: no |
| 14:48.55 | abrotman | be0wulf__: one makes you look like a tard .. the other doesn't |
| 14:49.05 | abrotman | rndr: then just pick an http source |
| 14:49.17 | rndr | abrotman: what u mean? |
| 14:49.18 | abrotman | rndr: if it asks you for proxy info .. and oyu odn't have one .. leave it blank |
| 14:49.24 | rndr | k |
| 14:49.26 | be0wulf__ | abrotman u mean the u makes me look like a normal person right*g* |
| 14:49.43 | Iam8up | iyhtays <--awesome =) |
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| 14:49.49 | be0wulf__ | i don't give a shit to tell you the truth*g* |
| 14:49.52 | abrotman | idiot |
| 14:50.11 | abrotman | one makes you less likely to get help |
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| 14:50.15 | rndr | abrotman: ok he downloaded some stuff, what now ? |
| 14:50.16 | be0wulf__ | nice to meet you be0wulf |
| 14:50.28 | abrotman | rndr: what are you trying to install ? |
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| 14:50.43 | be0wulf__ | uhm well it's screwed up anyway nobody will be able to help |
| 14:50.45 | rndr | abrotman: X |
| 14:50.51 | abrotman | rndr: which window manager? |
| 14:50.57 | rndr | fluxbox |
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| 14:51.12 | abrotman | rndr: apt-get install x-window-system-core fluxbox xdm menu |
| 14:52.20 | rndr | abrotman: E: the list of sources could not be read |
| 14:52.29 | be0wulf__ | very well unfortunately i'm using windows xp on my laptop so there is no xchat |
| 14:52.30 | abrotman | rndr: did you pick an http source? |
| 14:52.37 | rndr | abrotman: yes |
| 14:52.38 | abrotman | be0wulf__: there is a win32 xchat |
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| 14:52.45 | abrotman | rndr: are you on the machine now ? |
| 14:52.50 | rndr | abrotman: yes |
| 14:52.52 | rndr | abrotman: no |
| 14:52.56 | rndr | abrotman: no |
| 14:52.56 | abrotman | yes or no? |
| 14:52.59 | abrotman | ok |
| 14:53.06 | be0wulf__ | been using mirc for years and would have to script in order to get my u's changed |
| 14:53.11 | abrotman | rndr: can you ssh into the machine or are oyu using two keyboards? |
| 14:53.12 | be0wulf__ | and i really don't have time for that |
| 14:53.14 | rndr | abrotman: TELNET WHIT PC |
| 14:53.17 | be0wulf__ | it happens automaticly |
| 14:53.18 | rndr | caps :/ |
| 14:53.22 | abrotman | rndr: /j #flood |
| 14:53.41 | be0wulf__ | guess my kernal panics could be due to lack of ram |
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| 14:53.50 | abrotman | howmuch ram ? |
| 14:54.05 | be0wulf__ | uhm strangly it tells me 48mb |
| 14:54.09 | be0wulf__ | but there should be more |
| 14:54.26 | telonir | should? |
| 14:54.32 | be0wulf__ | but since kernel 2.4 is workin nicly i guess i have to stick to it |
| 14:54.32 | telonir | you dont know? |
| 14:54.56 | be0wulf__ | well the problem is that i put this ram into the computer quite some time ago |
| 14:55.07 | be0wulf__ | and i haven't used it for years |
| 14:55.12 | be0wulf__ | so 48mb is what is shown |
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| 14:55.39 | be0wulf__ | and it's happily installing sarge now |
| 14:55.41 | be0wulf__ | so how cares |
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| 14:56.57 | J_P | how i do for list last two comandos of my hystory ino shell ? |
| 14:57.22 | possie | is there a way to see if NCQ is enabled on my harddisk? |
| 14:57.34 | possie | and is there a way to turn NCQ on via a command line interface? |
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| 14:58.03 | abrotman | possie: hdparm .. maybe .. not sure |
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| 14:59.26 | scumm | Hi, where can i find a recent image of etch cd? because in the site www.debian.org, the image is from may 30 |
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| 15:01.14 | pzn | which kernel-image should I use to run sarge on AMD-k6? 2.6.8-2-386, -686, -k7? |
| 15:01.17 | telonir | etch? |
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| 15:01.30 | abrotman | pzn: i'd use 386 |
| 15:01.35 | abrotman | !k6 |
| 15:01.39 | telonir | no -k6? |
| 15:01.57 | abrotman | nope |
| 15:02.20 | telonir | k6 is 32 bits? |
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| 15:02.28 | stew | !testing daily is <reply> daily builds of d-i are available at: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/ |
| 15:02.28 | dpkg | stew: okay |
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| 15:02.38 | stew | !forget sarge daily |
| 15:02.38 | dpkg | i forgot sarge daily, stew |
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| 15:02.46 | stew | scumm: ^^^ |
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| 15:04.06 | carrett | hey guys. i have nvidia drivers and udev and my nvidia drivers aren't creating /dev/nvidia* ... what do i do to udev? i can't seem to find it on google... |
| 15:04.12 | bibe | hi all. I wonder if glxgears output (for ATI video cards) can vary depending on the screen's resolution... |
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| 15:05.05 | pzn | abrotman, I didn't receive anything from dpkg about "-k6" / "k6"... |
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| 15:05.16 | abrotman | pzn: because there is'nt anytrthing .. use a -386 kernel |
| 15:05.34 | LSorensen | bibe: probably |
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| 15:06.07 | r3tex | what is the package called that lets me compile a custom kernel |
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| 15:06.33 | stew | r3tex: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 15:07.03 | scumm | Hi, where can i find a recent image of etch cd? because in the site www.debian.org, the image is from may 30 |
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| 15:08.28 | r3tex | stew: hm =/ there is no kp package |
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| 15:09.41 | _keroppi_ | What do you install to get Japanese characters to display in Firefox? I realize this is a specific question for something more general, but I thought I installed Japanese language packs already, just not sure if they apply in this case... |
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| 15:10.14 | abrotman | rndr: ok .. |
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| 15:10.24 | rndr | abrotman: ok |
| 15:10.25 | abrotman | rndr: run apt-setup .. pick an http mirror |
| 15:10.34 | abrotman | rndr: let me know when that's done |
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| 15:10.48 | bibe | LSorensen : thank you |
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| 15:11.12 | rndr | abrotman: doen |
| 15:11.15 | rndr | abrotman: done |
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| 15:11.24 | bibe | scumm : http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 15:11.34 | abrotman | rndr: ok .. now .. look at the file .. is it pointing at stable, testing or usntable ? |
| 15:11.40 | bibe | start from there and choose architecture and type of image |
| 15:12.12 | _keroppi_ | nm,got it |
| 15:12.12 | rndr | abrotman: :| |
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| 15:12.13 | abrotman | rndr: ? |
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| 15:12.13 | abrotman | rndr: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:12.28 | Loevborg | weird! when I moved away all my /* directories to /old , I couldn't run /old/bin/ls etc. anymore. |
| 15:12.41 | Octalthorpe | So.. Suppose that I have a server, and in the process of dist-upgrade (testing) libc6 got borked, and is partially/not installed. |
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| 15:12.48 | rndr | abrotman: cat? |
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| 15:12.53 | rndr | abrotman: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:12.56 | stew | r3tex: did /msg dpkg kp ; tell you to install a kp package? |
| 15:13.07 | Loevborg | It said, no such file or directory even though the file was there. Does this possibly have to do with libc not bein available? |
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| 15:13.25 | abrotman | rndr: is there anyhting int here? |
| 15:13.26 | telonir | or the path env var |
| 15:13.27 | abrotman | in there? |
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| 15:13.33 | rndr | abrotman: yes |
| 15:13.34 | carrett | wow great. thanks. |
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| 15:14.21 | rndr | abrotman: k |
| 15:14.33 | TiMiDo | how do you reconfigure ssh dpkg-reconfigure sshd-server? |
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| 15:14.35 | TiMiDo | or something like that? |
| 15:14.35 | abrotman | rndr: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
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| 15:14.44 | abrotman | TiMiDo: dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
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| 15:15.08 | r3tex | stew hah i thought you meant that the package was called kp =P |
| 15:15.20 | rndr | E: The list of sources could not be read. |
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| 15:15.33 | Ronin | rndr: what is in the sources list? |
| 15:15.49 | rndr | Ronin : look #flood |
| 15:15.57 | abrotman | rndr: that file you pasted is .. in /etc/apt/sources.list .. right ? |
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| 15:16.17 | abrotman | Ronin: if you want .. i'll paste it again there |
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| 15:16.34 | rndr | abrotman: ? |
| 15:16.40 | rndr | abrotman: what file? |
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| 15:16.49 | abrotman | rndr: the file you pasted in #flood is from /etc/apt/sources.list .. on your Debian box .. right ? |
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| 15:17.04 | stew | Loevborg: uhh why did you move /bin? |
| 15:17.16 | rndr | abrotman: yes i did /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:17.50 | abrotman | rndr: and when you type `apt-get update` .. it says there is no sources file ? |
| 15:18.11 | abrotman | ack .. a real live DD! |
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| 15:18.32 | rndr | E: Type 'de' is not known in on line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:18.39 | rndr | :/ |
| 15:18.43 | abrotman | rndr: ah .. comment that line out with a # |
| 15:19.06 | Loevborg | stew, I didn't mean to, it happened accidently (I'm restoring a backup remotely) |
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| 15:19.17 | rndr | abrotman: #? |
| 15:19.24 | abrotman | rndr: # is a comment in that file |
| 15:19.47 | rndr | i get crazy |
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| 15:20.18 | rndr | bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied |
| 15:20.31 | Ronin | rndr: helps if your root |
| 15:20.44 | Ronin | helps if you run the install command as root as well |
| 15:20.48 | abrotman | is there a way to have apt-get ignore bad lines ? |
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| 15:21.05 | Loevborg | .. and I didn't mean to close this window. |
| 15:21.16 | stew | rndr: did you try to edit it or execute it? |
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| 15:21.37 | abrotman | guess not |
| 15:21.41 | rndr | stew: i was looking on the internet, and i added somethinge |
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| 15:22.03 | Ronin | rndr: when you got permission denied just now how did you try to edit the file? |
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| 15:22.33 | rndr | Ronin: when i just type in root /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:23.03 | Ronin | rndr: do as root, and you have to specify an editor as well say nano /etc/apt/sources.list for example |
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| 15:23.30 | bnoji | How is USB2.0 support? Is it stable enough for a 20-40GB backup device? |
| 15:23.51 | Loevborg | bnoji, certainly |
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| 15:24.07 | bnoji | Loevborg: any suggested backup devices? |
| 15:24.07 | rndr | Ronin: ok i did nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:24.19 | bnoji | Most say they support Win/Mac |
| 15:24.22 | Ronin | rndr: now put a # on the line the error and abrotman said to |
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| 15:24.28 | Ronin | infront of the line |
| 15:24.38 | rndr | k |
| 15:24.41 | bnoji | I need 40GB external storage. I was thinking an external HDD |
| 15:24.42 | rndr | wait sec |
| 15:24.45 | Loevborg | bnoji, for simple cases, an external drive is good |
| 15:24.46 | soar | hello guys. please recommend a good RSS client in Linux? |
| 15:24.59 | Loevborg | soar, opera :) |
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| 15:25.03 | StevenR | i like akregator, and thunderbird does rss too |
| 15:25.09 | bnoji | Loevborg: It will be simple for now. (and im on a ~$300 budget) |
| 15:25.20 | bnoji | I only have the PDC/file server to backup |
| 15:25.26 | Loevborg | bnoji, sure go with an external disk or two |
| 15:25.46 | bnoji | eventually we will have the project management server and accounting data to store also |
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| 15:25.50 | rndr | #de regel die je wil toevoegen? |
| 15:25.52 | rndr | Ronin: ok i did #de regel die je wil toevoegen? |
| 15:25.58 | rndr | that problem |
| 15:26.06 | bnoji | Loevborg: Have you used APC UPS batteries? |
| 15:26.26 | bnoji | I'm looking into what kind of support there is for the Smart-UPS SC series |
| 15:26.28 | Ronin | rndr: de regel die je wil toevoegen? translate please |
| 15:26.31 | Loevborg | bnoji, no I'm just a two-bit developper |
| 15:26.37 | rndr | Ronin: saids in it |
| 15:26.42 | vca | bnoji: check out apcupsd |
| 15:26.47 | rndr | Ronin: that is tanding there |
| 15:26.53 | rndr | Ronin: standing* |
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| 15:26.57 | bnoji | vca: I've looked at that and NUT |
| 15:27.08 | rndr | Ronin: de regel die je wil toevoegen? => the line that u wanna add |
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| 15:27.20 | vca | bnoji: that's the only daemon i've used with an apc ups |
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| 15:27.48 | DrZoot | hey all, i want to add a parameter to a module everytime i load it, how would i go about that? |
| 15:27.53 | Ronin | rndr: you were told to put an # in front of the line that is giving you the error, i beleive it was line 7 |
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| 15:28.02 | bnoji | vca: It works well? |
| 15:28.08 | whirm | hi, I installed gosa in debian stable, it recommends php4-cups to be able to manage cups thingies and this package does not exist, someone knows where can I find it? |
| 15:28.13 | Ungy | OK I know this is a stupid question but I am using sid and am up to date this removed my skype package I got from www.skype.com because of Qt dependency so since there is no source available I am screwed until they update? |
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| 15:28.27 | soar | does Opera support RSS? |
| 15:28.27 | vca | bnoji: it was able to shutdown my box the few times power went offline |
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| 15:28.29 | rndr | line 7 is |
| 15:28.30 | rndr | deb http://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be/pub/mirror/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/ $ |
| 15:28.38 | bnoji | vca: I'm going to need a script to shutdown the PDC, Firewall and Project Management server when the battery level gets low. |
| 15:28.45 | bibe | Ungy : I think so. Skype is a closed-source app |
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| 15:28.57 | Ungy | bibe thanks |
| 15:28.59 | Ronin | so then what you pasted in #flood isn't all in /etc/apt/sources.list then? |
| 15:28.59 | rndr | Ronin deb http://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be/pub/mirror/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/ $ |
| 15:29.04 | bibe | Ungy : no problem |
| 15:29.26 | bibe | Ungy : by the way, has kde 3.4 entered sid? |
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| 15:29.39 | Ungy | bibe yup |
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| 15:29.58 | rndr | Ronin: ? |
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| 15:30.12 | Ungy | bibe I haven'e had any problems yet but apparently there are some packages that might break I have not found them yet |
| 15:30.17 | bibe | Ungy : nice... |
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| 15:30.37 | vca | DrZoot: in your modules.conf or modprobe.conf you can do "options $modulename $option" -- see "man modprobe.conf" for details |
| 15:31.07 | Ronin | rndr: thanks, now save and close that file, then run apt-get update again and tell us what happens |
| 15:31.28 | rndr | Ronin: euhmmm |
| 15:31.41 | rndr | Ronin: ^X Exit |
| 15:31.42 | rndr | ? |
| 15:31.50 | Ronin | rndr: yes |
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| 15:32.13 | bibe | Ungy : unstable is so-called because it's... unstable. It works very well 70-80% of the time, but now and then you will experience some problems, especially during ABI changes (such as gcc3 -> gcc4, or kde3.3 -> kde3.4) |
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| 15:32.22 | rndr | Ronin: just pressing X |
| 15:32.23 | rndr | ? |
| 15:32.25 | TiMiDo | how do you make things in /etc/init.d start on boot |
| 15:32.37 | bibe | TiMiDo : man update-rc.d |
| 15:32.40 | Ronin | rndr: ahh, dont do that the ^ symbol in is for the ctrl key |
| 15:32.48 | TiMiDo | thnx bibe |
| 15:32.58 | bibe | np TiMiDo |
| 15:33.01 | rndr | Ronin: k |
| 15:33.31 | Ungy | bibe yeah I know I was just wonderng if anyone knew of an updated repository for skype |
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| 15:34.52 | rndr | Ronin: E: Type 'testing' is not known in on line 9 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:35.06 | bibe | Ungy : what dependencies forced you to uninstall skype? only qt? |
| 15:35.15 | Ungy | bibe yes |
| 15:35.48 | sanxiyn | !unofficial debs |
| 15:35.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, unofficial debs is http://www.apt-get.org/, or http://debian-unofficial.org/ |
| 15:35.56 | Ronin | i think i see the problem rndr it looks like one of the lines wrapped |
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| 15:36.15 | rndr | hmm |
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| 15:36.18 | rndr | what now? |
| 15:36.26 | Ronin | unwrap it and fix the line |
| 15:36.34 | takatumi | if it's nano use nano -w |
| 15:36.38 | aec26 | i've got a file in my web directory |
| 15:36.39 | aec26 | -rw------- 1 nobody nobody 1086502 Jul 5 06:21 106-0697.jpg |
| 15:36.48 | aec26 | how can i gain contorl of it? |
| 15:36.56 | Estes2 | Hi everyone, quick question... Anyone knows if rsync keeps owner/rights ? i want to use it to mirror the home directories... |
| 15:36.58 | rndr | Ronin: what can i di then ? |
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| 15:37.16 | vca | Estes2: it can keep uid and perms |
| 15:37.21 | Ronin | rndr: once the wrap is removed and the line fixed do apt-get update again and tell us what happens |
| 15:37.24 | bibe | Ungy : try dpkg --force-depends-version skype... |
| 15:37.29 | Estes2 | vca, cool, thanks |
| 15:37.38 | rndr | Ronin: maybe reinstall then ? |
| 15:37.41 | bibe | Ungy : or even dpkg --force-depends |
| 15:37.50 | Ungy | bibe ok I will try that |
| 15:38.07 | Estes2 | vca, a mod is what's between [ and ] in the config file, right ? |
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| 15:38.24 | DrZoot | ive modified /etc/modutils to have a file ipw2200 in that file i have a single line "options ipw2200 led=1" i have run update-modules and that line now appears in /etc/modules.conf but for some reason when i modprobe ipw2200 it still doesnt use that option. any ideas? |
| 15:38.45 | stew | rndr: did you edit this with nano? if so you should be using nano -w instead of just nano, the -w means don't wrap long lines |
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| 15:39.06 | sanxiyn | Estes2: You want -a (--archive) option of rsync. |
| 15:39.12 | rndr | stew: ok i will try |
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| 15:39.47 | sanxiyn | (Which preserves permission, owner, group, timestamp, symlink, etc.) |
| 15:40.20 | darkness | Can someone tell me if any firewalls or iptables rulesets occur on a fresh sarge install? |
| 15:40.44 | Estes2 | sanxiyn, thanks, will have a look at this |
| 15:40.53 | asg | darkness: iptables -vL will show you if any rules are active |
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| 15:41.25 | vca | darkness: also, you can check out the /var/lib/iptables/active file. see if anything's in there. |
| 15:41.46 | asg | vca: that went away in sarge |
| 15:41.57 | vca | oh did it? see, and i'm still using it. <laugh> |
| 15:42.11 | asg | vca: upgrades from woody were not affected. |
| 15:42.11 | vca | disregard last transmission. thx asg |
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| 15:42.20 | asg | vca: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README* has the skinny |
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| 15:44.49 | DrZoot | so anyone know why my modprobe might be ignoring modules.conf? |
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| 15:45.05 | vca | DrZoot: are you running 2.6? |
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| 15:45.10 | DrZoot | yep |
| 15:45.14 | vca | modprobe.conf |
| 15:45.23 | bnoji | Is the access method the same for a USB flash drive and a hard drive with a USB interface? |
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| 15:45.48 | DrZoot | vca dont have a modprobe.conf only a modprobe.d directory |
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| 15:45.52 | thingfish | there is no /etc/modprobe.conf in sarge. |
| 15:46.01 | jcuk | I have installed debian, sarge. but i dont know why i cant install packages |
| 15:46.11 | lemur | jcuk: you can |
| 15:46.12 | sanxiyn | Have anyone used Freshmeat XML-RPC API? Doesn't seem to work... |
| 15:46.20 | jcuk | infact, bugger it nevermind ill sort it |
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| 15:46.27 | jcuk | (looks for a blank disk) |
| 15:46.35 | FlacoX | spanish? |
| 15:46.38 | Ronin | jcuk: helps if we know what happens when you try to install |
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| 15:47.03 | catalinux | I just installed anjuta 2.0.1 from sources and when I start it the editor looks very weard. Spaces and tabs are not where they should be. With my previous anjuta 1.2.4 I had no such problem. |
| 15:47.20 | FlacoX | sabe de un canal de debian en español? |
| 15:47.25 | thingfish | !es |
| 15:47.25 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:47.26 | lemur | catalinux: Is it because I just installed anjut 2.0.1 from sources and when I start it the editor looks very weard that you came to see me? |
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| 15:47.53 | sanxiyn | lemur: Huh? |
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| 15:48.02 | catalinux | lemur: what? |
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| 15:48.08 | emRick` | My LAN works until I use my dialup modem. After dialing in, "ping 192.168.0.2" gives "ping: sendto: Operation not permitted". Also, dialup modem stops working. How do I fix this? |
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| 15:48.13 | emRick` | By the way, a google search suggests suggests "iptables" ... should I read up on "iptables"? |
| 15:48.20 | lemur | catalinux: Do you think that's normal? |
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| 15:48.29 | sanxiyn | Is lemur a bot? |
| 15:48.39 | catalinux | lemur: i didn't came to see "YOU" |
| 15:48.54 | l0s3rk1d | whats the difference of woody and sarge?:/ |
| 15:49.02 | sanxiyn | l0s3rk1d: They are different. |
| 15:49.06 | lemur | catalinux: Is it because of your parents that i didn't came to see "YOU"? |
| 15:49.10 | sanxiyn | Sarge is newer. |
| 15:49.13 | Ronin | l0s3rk1d: old stable new stable |
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| 15:49.21 | crocd | guys, how can I determine ifmy cd rom is working within Debian? I have checked dmesg and I have tried top mount it but I cannot seem to access it |
| 15:49.24 | catalinux | lemur: are you drunk? |
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| 15:49.34 | darkness | Sarge is easier to install imo. |
| 15:49.34 | l0s3rk1d | oh so sarge is better? |
| 15:49.35 | Roldyx | hi |
| 15:49.40 | lemur | catalinux: Tell me more. |
| 15:49.48 | SSL | i have trouble to install my modem hsf , i don't find kernel-headers 2.6.8-2-686 apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686... |
| 15:49.54 | sanxiyn | !ops lemur seems to be a stupid chatbot |
| 15:49.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: lemur seems to be a stupid chatbot |
| 15:49.56 | cp | can you tell me why a stable, rock solid application like "clisp" is *not* in hesting ? |
| 15:49.58 | scumm | Hi, where can i find a recent image of etch cd? because in the site www.debian.org, the image is from may 30 |
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| 15:50.28 | Ronin | sanxiyn: are you sure? maybe they're just stupid |
| 15:50.42 | l0s3rk1d | 14 cd waaa |
| 15:50.49 | sanxiyn | cp: clisp failed to build from source on several architectures. |
| 15:50.51 | zepeuga | how do i know if my memory is good with memtest86+ ? i've put it working, but it keeps looping forever...doesn't have final report... |
| 15:50.53 | DrZoot | ok so does anyone know what it will take to get modprobe in sid with a 2.6 kernel to auto apply options, the options are in modules.conf and i have no modprobe.conf |
| 15:50.54 | sanxiyn | cp: Sure, it's stable on i386. |
| 15:50.59 | lemur | sanxiyn: I'm not a chat boot, you fool! |
| 15:51.16 | Ronin | l0s3rk1d: no need, just one small netinstall iso is needed |
| 15:51.18 | SSL | i have trouble to install my modem hsf , i don't find kernel-headers 2.6.8-2-686 apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686... |
| 15:51.38 | vca | DrZoot: sorry, the box i'm on is a bit of a hybrid of woody & sarge that was upgraded from 2.4 to 2.6. if you don't have a modprobe.conf, put the options in /etc/modprobe.d/modulename instead |
| 15:51.38 | Ronin | lemur: that leaves just stupid as an answer then |
| 15:51.39 | rndr^Food | Ronin: it updated |
| 15:51.46 | l0s3rk1d | does netinstall have X server already? |
| 15:51.47 | rndr^Food | stew: thx |
| 15:51.54 | lemur | Ronin: Or, in your case, smelly |
| 15:51.56 | DrZoot | vca: thanks ill try that |
| 15:51.57 | Ronin | l0s3rk1d: it will if you tell it to install it |
| 15:52.06 | sanxiyn | cp: clisp's FFI(Foreign Function Interface) tends to be flacky when toolchain is changed. |
| 15:52.13 | Ronin | rndr^Food: good, now try apt-get install xchat as i recall the original problem being |
| 15:52.16 | Roldyx | l0s3rk1d, yes, it is |
| 15:52.19 | cp | sanxiyn: oh ok |
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| 15:52.23 | l0s3rk1d | ok thanks Ronin il give a try |
| 15:52.29 | scumm | zepeuga memtest86 tests the memory 2³² times if you don't say other number |
| 15:52.42 | rndr | Ronin: w00t it works |
| 15:52.55 | DrZoot | vca: thanks heaps that worked a treat |
| 15:53.07 | sanxiyn | lemur: Sorry. |
| 15:53.18 | vca | DrZoot: np, sorry i gave you bogus info initially :) |
| 15:53.31 | rndr | Ronin: so, how do install a game then to host? |
| 15:53.33 | lemur | sanxiyn: Apology accepted |
| 15:53.48 | DrZoot | vca: thats ok, even gods have off days, just look at the platypus |
| 15:53.59 | Ronin | rndr: beats the hell out of me, i suggest reading up on whatever games website it is you want to host |
| 15:54.01 | vca | DrZoot: <laugh> troodat |
| 15:54.04 | zepeuga | scumm, so what i need to do ? |
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| 15:54.24 | rndr | Ronin: ok, thx very much man, its works :))) |
| 15:55.17 | scumm | zepeuga run memtest86+ -h and you can see available options |
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| 15:57.23 | _keroppi_ | I'm trying to get Japanese to display in firefox, so I installed: xfonts-intl-japanese, xfonts-intl-japanese-big, mozilla-firefox-locale-ja. Then I restarted X, reloaded Firefox, and I go to google.jp and the chars are still displayed as hex codes in boxes... Can someone help me? I can't find a page that explains how to get languages working... |
| 15:57.54 | aec26 | use windows |
| 15:57.59 | aec26 | ;) |
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| 15:59.08 | Coweater | _keroppi_: i'm not sure but check in your firefox font config, change it from western to japanese and try setting fonts there |
| 15:59.11 | Ungy | _keroppi_, did you see if it is available under firfox preferences general languages |
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| 15:59.33 | emRick` | Am using dialup modem on PC1 and using crossover cable to connect PC1/PC2. Just after reboot, LAN works but not after using dialup modem. |
| 15:59.50 | bibe | _keroppi_ : what character encoding is preselected under View -> Character Encoding? |
| 15:59.50 | vmx | hi! i've just realized that the default xmms skin has changed. is there a similar looking gtk-theme available? |
| 15:59.56 | emRick` | ... I noticed no entry for "ppp0" in /etc/network/interfaces. I use "kppp" to connect. Could this be problem? |
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| 16:00.02 | darkness | What stage is sid at atm? |
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| 16:00.11 | resiak | Unstable. |
| 16:00.14 | resiak | (like always) |
| 16:00.14 | resiak | :) |
| 16:00.17 | _keroppi_ | Edit > Prefs > Languages > (I added Japanese [ja]), didn't work, I even played around with character encoding, set it to unicode, and then all three japanese encodings, nothing worked, it just changed the size of the text... |
| 16:00.21 | bibe | resiak : great! |
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| 16:00.32 | _keroppi_ | Is there an easy way to test if X can even display Japanese yet? Or is Firefox independent of X in this case? |
| 16:00.36 | darkness | Like if you're not an expert in linux don't install sid yet? |
| 16:00.37 | fabienZ | hi everybody |
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| 16:01.01 | bibe | _keroppi_ : kcharselect^ |
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| 16:01.27 | bibe | or gnome charmap, I don't know the application's name |
| 16:01.47 | Coweater | _keroppi_: it can, i think the problem might be that firefox uses truetype fonts, look at the ttf-kochi fonts |
| 16:01.49 | comex | When I press CTRL-ALT-F1 from X, (in xterm), it says P on a normal shell and 07P when in nano. Same for CTRL-ALT-F2 with Q, etc. |
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| 16:02.10 | stew | darkness: sid's "stage" doesn't ever change. its always unstable. i wouldn't even recommend it for a linux expert that wasn't a debian expert in particular |
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| 16:02.19 | _keroppi_ | bibe: There is no Japanese font in the dropdown menu in kcharselect |
| 16:03.16 | bibe | _keroppi_ : take a look at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, does your X server load Japanese characters? |
| 16:03.21 | _keroppi_ | Coweater: Which kochi fonts should I install? |
| 16:03.26 | _keroppi_ | bibe: Probably not... |
| 16:03.35 | Coweater | _keroppi_: not sure, i just have both installed |
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| 16:03.59 | bibe | _keroppi_ : go to /usr/lib/X11/fonts, are there any japanes fonts' dirs? |
| 16:04.06 | _keroppi_ | Coweater: Can you specify exactly which ones you have installed? There are several entries when doing apt-cache search kochi... |
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| 16:04.10 | Mars__^ | Mars__^ HI Is there anybody here who is active on msn, and can give me id, cause i need to find out is there everything auright with my msn transporent to PSI. |
| 16:04.12 | Mars__^ | ? |
| 16:04.34 | Coweater | _keroppi_: ttf-kochi-gothic and ttf-kochi-mincho |
| 16:05.03 | _keroppi_ | bibe: I have these: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/18x18ja.pcf.gz, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/12x13ja.pcf.gz |
| 16:05.29 | Mars__^ | uhh |
| 16:05.33 | Mars__^ | I dont know why |
| 16:05.40 | _keroppi_ | bibe: And misc is specified in my /etc/XF86Config* |
| 16:05.46 | Mars__^ | but when i run my msn transporter on psi |
| 16:06.01 | Mars__^ | it shows strange info :/ |
| 16:06.10 | bnoji | 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 6300ESB SATA Storage Controller (rev 02) <-- Does this support hotswap? I havent been able to find a definate answer. |
| 16:06.37 | bibe | _keroppi_ : what does 'dpkg -L ttf-kochi-gothic' show up? |
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| 16:06.52 | lahoud6666 | hi all |
| 16:06.59 | lahoud6666 | any moderator here ? |
| 16:07.01 | _keroppi_ | bibe: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/kochi/kochi-gothic.ttf is the most relevant |
| 16:07.11 | _keroppi_ | bibe: /etc/defoma/hints/ttf-kochi-gothic.hints also |
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| 16:07.17 | CosmoDad | having trouble logging in to X: I can start kdm, but no matter as what user I try to log in, after the passwords is accepted X restarts. What could be the reason? |
| 16:07.44 | _keroppi_ | bibe: I have X configured to manage fonts with defoma... |
| 16:07.55 | _keroppi_ | bibe: What do I do now? Restart X? |
| 16:07.55 | crocd | Have you checked the error messages? |
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| 16:08.20 | bibe | _keroppi_ : didn't you restart X after installing Japanese X11 fonts? |
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| 16:08.26 | _keroppi_ | It's working now, thanks a lot guys! |
| 16:08.29 | _keroppi_ | W00T! |
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| 16:09.00 | bibe | _keroppi_ : ok, nice to hear that |
| 16:09.02 | lahoud6666 | hey iam new here any help plz |
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| 16:09.15 | curt | where would a log be for the messages that show at bootup or does this need to be specified first |
| 16:09.28 | SerajewelKS | MySQL just started giving me this error, and i haven't upgraded anything: #1251 - Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client |
| 16:09.38 | SerajewelKS | every single MySQL client is dumping out with that error |
| 16:09.41 | bibe | curt : 'dmesg' can be useful |
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| 16:10.04 | bibe | or do you want _all_ messages? |
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| 16:10.22 | curt | bibe, does that need to be setup or is that where they are stored, YES i want all mesages |
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| 16:10.56 | curt | bibe, I can see some things aren't right at bootup but can catchit before they off the screen |
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| 16:11.37 | bibe | curt : no need to set up anything, 'dmesg' (it's a command) shows you most of what you see on the console |
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| 16:11.45 | beardy | curt: /var/log/dmesg contains the bootmessages, read it if 'dmesg' gives you other things than the bootup messages. |
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| 16:12.24 | curt | bibe, thank you i'll try it out |
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| 16:12.33 | bibe | curt : no problem |
| 16:12.51 | bnoji | I'm wondering if hot-swap SATA is more work than its worth, and if SATA->USB2 is the ebest way |
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| 16:13.06 | EdgEy | guys, how do i access a usb mass storage device |
| 16:13.12 | EdgEy | doesn't seem to automount |
| 16:13.18 | beardy | EdgEy: mount it |
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| 16:13.36 | lahoud6666 | hey guys any advice about a stock ? |
| 16:13.49 | beardy | lahoud6666: a stock? |
| 16:13.50 | curt | lahoud6666, buy low sell high |
| 16:14.01 | lahoud6666 | yea i know that |
| 16:14.01 | lilo | lahoud6666: beef bullion makes a tasty accent to any dish |
| 16:14.22 | bibe | EdgEy : look at the last lines of 'dmesg' output, it should say something about /dev/sda or /dev/sdb... then mount /dev/sdX1 or other partitions |
| 16:14.29 | curt | lahoud6666, oil seems to be hot... |
| 16:14.41 | lahoud6666 | the market is goin down |
| 16:14.42 | beardy | curt: Especially if boiled. |
| 16:14.43 | lilo | lahoud6666: hold it gently and squeeze the trigger, don't pull |
| 16:14.55 | lilo | lahoud6666: I'll try to think of some more advice involving 'stock' |
| 16:15.06 | curt | !stock |
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| 16:15.19 | _jepagodo | Is there anywhere where i can find older versions of programs? using .deb |
| 16:15.23 | lahoud6666 | i mean that iam holdin a stock and i need any advice from a modderator |
| 16:15.28 | lahoud6666 | or somthin like that |
| 16:15.45 | stew | lahoud6666: if you freeze your stock for long term storage, you should bring it to a boil before using it to kill bacteria |
| 16:15.46 | l0s3rk1d | netinstall is a live cd? |
| 16:15.50 | lilo | lahoud6666: I can't imagine how you ended up thinking this channel has anything to do with stocks ;) |
| 16:15.59 | Ronin | l0s3rk1d: network install cd |
| 16:16.11 | RichiH | lahoud6666: what do you want to do, exactly? |
| 16:16.13 | asg | lahoud6666: sell it; donate the money to freenode |
| 16:16.14 | lilo | stew: considering your nick, I am going to take your advice very seriously *grin* |
| 16:16.16 | mentor | lemur: hi |
| 16:16.35 | lahoud6666 | yea man coz iam new here and iam tryin some channel so any advice about a channel ? |
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| 16:16.37 | curt | lahoud6666, you could sell it and give me the proceeds |
| 16:16.39 | l0s3rk1d | ronin this only installs the required programs? |
| 16:16.48 | curt | lahoud6666, i'll take care of it for you |
| 16:16.49 | lilo | lahoud6666: but let us know ahead of time if the amount of the donation is something more than about $500.... ktnx ;) |
| 16:16.57 | comex | x` |
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| 16:16.59 | Ronin | l0s3rk1d: does whatever you tell it to install but by default its a barebones install |
| 16:17.00 | comex | oops |
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| 16:17.22 | asg | lahoud6666: this network supports free software projects. You should perhaps consider another one (google can be helpful in this endeavor) |
| 16:17.32 | l0s3rk1d | ronin what if i dont have internet?i shouldnt use the netinstall cd? |
| 16:17.38 | beardy | lahoud6666: "stock" in swedish means a chopped down tree of good quality that is going to be used to get boards and planks out of. So, when choppng down a tree which is going to be a "stock", remember to say: Timber! |
| 16:17.40 | lilo | lahoud6666: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/ |
| 16:18.00 | curt | !timber |
| 16:18.03 | lahoud6666 | timber :P |
| 16:18.04 | Ronin | l0s3rk1d: well if you dont have internet the netinstall cd makes a nice coaster, you may want to lookin into getting cd 1 and 2 |
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| 16:18.14 | lemur | mentor: hi |
| 16:18.19 | stew | they make horrible coasters |
| 16:18.32 | Ronin | stew: wine glasses |
| 16:18.34 | lilo | if > $500 I can recommend Physicians Without Borders as a charity which could better handle your donation |
| 16:18.42 | syntaxx | how can i add a site in my sources.list using apt-setup? |
| 16:18.48 | mentor | lemur: Not a bot? |
| 16:18.56 | Ronin | syntaxx: apt-setup will tell you how |
| 16:18.58 | lemur | mentor: obviously |
| 16:19.06 | l0s3rk1d | ic |
| 16:19.15 | curt | syntaxx, just edit etc/sources.list |
| 16:19.15 | mentor | lemur: I wouldn't say so :) |
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| 16:19.29 | syntaxx | Ronin, yeah i know.. i mean i want to add in testing or unstable.. but it doesnt give me selection on mirror |
| 16:20.26 | jerome | I just installed python2.4-setuptools using apt-get BUT within the python2.4 interpreter, "import pkg_resources" or "from setuptools import *" return "no modules names pkg_resources" or "setuptools". Any experience with that problem ? |
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| 16:21.02 | guevolt | wich is the name of testing distro of debian? sarge or etch ? |
| 16:21.08 | beardy | !testing |
| 16:21.08 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 16:21.09 | jimmyxx | whats a good newsgroup reader for debian? |
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| 16:21.15 | jimmyxx | evolutions newsgroup support seems crap |
| 16:21.23 | cahoot | slrn |
| 16:21.28 | jerome | slrn |
| 16:21.49 | cahoot | jimmyxx: mutt is usable too |
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| 16:22.22 | Anthro | jimmyxx: Thunderbird is tolerable, too, if you want a GUI. |
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| 16:22.43 | bnoji | When backing up, should I just tar the important dirs? |
| 16:23.00 | bnoji | like, tar /var /home /etc ? |
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| 16:23.33 | jim | bnoji: ideally you should forumlate a backup plan |
| 16:23.40 | Anthro | bnoji: You might want to do some cleaning first, but yes. |
| 16:23.51 | hutgyrr | call it plan b |
| 16:23.53 | nkuttler | bnoji: i'd add /etc/, and stuff in /usr |
| 16:24.11 | nkuttler | bnoji: best way to learn what you need, do a full backup, reinstall, see what you need |
| 16:24.18 | bnoji | jim: we only have 1 drive to backup (40GB) that only has 4GB right now. |
| 16:24.41 | bnoji | I was planning to do full backups on Mon, Wed and Fri |
| 16:24.50 | nkuttler | bnoji: um, then you can du a full backup easily |
| 16:24.52 | jim | backup to a hd? better to backup to tape or cd-r |
| 16:24.55 | hutgyrr | takes fuckin ages to make big tarballs |
| 16:24.56 | syntaxx | curt, cant edit on sources.list i need a site.. im on fresh install no browser yet |
| 16:25.05 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 16:25.06 | SerajewelKS | why does mysql reject client connections |
| 16:25.14 | SerajewelKS | i did enable old-passwords in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 16:25.18 | SerajewelKS | doesn't seem to be helping |
| 16:25.18 | bnoji | jim: I cant find a decent tape drive that fits our reqs in our price range |
| 16:25.35 | stew | SerajewelKS: newer versions don't accapt old-passwords iirc |
| 16:25.35 | bnoji | I want to spend under $300 (including media) |
| 16:25.36 | jim | what about a dvd drive |
| 16:25.47 | hutgyrr | dvd is quicker to find stuff on |
| 16:25.49 | stew | SerajewelKS: which version of mysql-server? |
| 16:25.53 | hutgyrr | and cheaper |
| 16:25.54 | thingfish | yeah tape is slow |
| 16:25.55 | jim | heh, you're not gonna find anything like that |
| 16:25.59 | thingfish | and expensive |
| 16:26.16 | SerajewelKS | stew, mysql-server-4.1 |
| 16:26.20 | bnoji | jim: I know. I need external, removable storage under $300. |
| 16:26.24 | hutgyrr | if your only goin to be backin up a small amount, dvd is best |
| 16:26.32 | bnoji | I figured an hot swap SATA or USB HDD would be best. |
| 16:26.34 | jim | dvd-r |
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| 16:26.52 | hutgyrr | well, yeah but with dvd you could have 2 copys |
| 16:27.00 | jim | you're backing up to something that spins really fast... |
| 16:27.07 | bnoji | jim: What if I need more than 10GB? |
| 16:27.18 | hutgyrr | you could take one home incase of fire |
| 16:27.21 | bnoji | how would I span multiple DVDs? |
| 16:27.33 | stew | SerajewelKS: i'm pretty sure that 4.1 doens't accept old_passwords |
| 16:27.33 | jim | use a program that writes them out |
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| 16:27.37 | bnoji | hutgyrr: Thats why I wanted a removable HDD bay. |
| 16:27.42 | l0s3rk1d | ey ronin i only need the cd 1 and cd 2? |
| 16:27.46 | stew | SerajewelKS: check the bts and /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-4.1 |
| 16:27.46 | hutgyrr | oh yeah i suppose |
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| 16:28.40 | jim | l0s3rk1d: you don't really need any cds to install... do you have a fast internet connection that's supported by the installer? |
| 16:28.47 | hutgyrr | backuppc has a nice interface where you can browse archives through http |
| 16:28.56 | bnoji | hutgyrr: http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?Sku=5520881 |
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| 16:29.05 | bnoji | That's one I'm looking at. |
| 16:29.06 | Ronin | l0s3rk1d: well no, but with no internet connection on the target machine those 2 will give you a decent desktop |
| 16:29.18 | Ronin | jim: apparenlty l0s3rk1d target machine has no internet |
| 16:29.35 | l0s3rk1d | yeah machine with not internet |
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| 16:30.03 | l0s3rk1d | thanks agin |
| 16:30.16 | SerajewelKS | stew, neither say anything |
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| 16:30.26 | jim | can you borrow internet connection long enuf to install?" |
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| 16:30.39 | hutgyrr | mmm, i might get one of them myself |
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| 16:31.33 | SerajewelKS | stew, any reason why mysqlcc would work and php4-mysql would not, even though they both use the same mysqlclient library? |
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| 16:31.35 | jim | an external enclosure? me too... stick in a big drive and use it to store my music projects |
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| 16:32.05 | kombi_ | package availability hell strikes again, why is there no apache-mod-security in unstable/testing..? |
| 16:32.21 | kombi_ | hrmpf.. |
| 16:32.27 | jim | bts |
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| 16:33.21 | jim | if you run unstable, you chose that, so complaining should be directed at your loopback :P |
| 16:33.26 | to | hi, i'm trying to configure my cupsd server to restrict its access to a specific group...but the problem is it always ask me for a password, and i only want it to check the group's membership...any idea? |
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| 16:33.54 | humbolt | how can I change the resolution of the console? |
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| 16:34.36 | jim | put <imagename> VGA=ask at boot prompt |
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| 16:34.43 | kombi_ | jim: I never quite got it, which has better / more recent package support? |
| 16:34.44 | SerajewelKS | stew, this is getting *really* frustrating |
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| 16:35.31 | kombi_ | ..and no apxs in the apache package.. |
| 16:35.46 | jim | none do (support? you mean to complain or ask questions especially before you've checked the bts?) |
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| 16:36.45 | rndr | abrotman |
| 16:36.48 | jim | if you want something that doesn't have the problems of moving packages, run stable |
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| 16:37.02 | SerajewelKS | stew, it was working until 10 minutes ago and i haven't changed anything |
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| 16:37.16 | rndr | abrotman: dpkg pm me a 1h ago, with info to change to sarge |
| 16:37.29 | jim | if you then want newer packages, you could try building them from debianized sources |
| 16:37.37 | en1gma | what version of debian comes with a kernel above 2.6.9 |
| 16:37.41 | rndr | abrotman: i did apt-get install aptitude |
| 16:37.46 | kombi_ | jim: that is probably the way to go.. |
| 16:37.48 | rndr | abrotman: he installed |
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| 16:38.00 | rndr | abrotman: Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge". |
| 16:38.06 | nkuttler | en1gma: why do you need >2.6.9? |
| 16:38.07 | rndr | abrotman: how? |
| 16:38.30 | en1gma | my pda requires it |
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| 16:38.45 | jim | you're putting debian on your pda? |
| 16:38.53 | en1gma | no my pda as a modem |
| 16:38.57 | nkuttler | en1gma: you probably want a newer kernel, not an upgrade to testing/unstable |
| 16:39.04 | nkuttler | en1gma: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 16:39.10 | bibe | hi all. I am trying to build a Sun JDK 1.5.0 Update 5 Debian package with java-package. I follow make-jpkg instructions and I try to build it as a "normal" user with 'fakeroot make-jpkg /path/to/jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin'. I have some permission errors, regarding /etc/.java/ directory and content, /usr/share/mime-info/java-web-start.keys and /usr/share/application-registry/java-web-start.applications. Should I ignore these errors? |
| 16:39.18 | hutgyrr | how good do them storage enclosures work, would it be ok to hotswap between drives 4 or 5 times a day |
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| 16:39.26 | en1gma | i mean if i do a default debian install which version will install with a kernel above 2.6.9 |
| 16:39.30 | en1gma | that way i dont have to compile |
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| 16:39.50 | en1gma | does current come with a newer kernel |
| 16:39.53 | vca | en1gma: none, but you can upgrade the kernel package... |
| 16:40.00 | jim | what dir are you building in |
| 16:40.10 | en1gma | which is easier: upgrade or build |
| 16:40.10 | Ronin | rndr: i dont think abrotman has returned yet |
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| 16:40.24 | rndr | ok |
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| 16:40.32 | rndr | Ronin: u know it maybe |
| 16:40.34 | jim | sarge comes with 2.6.8 or 2.4.27 |
| 16:40.45 | nkuttler | en1gma: check backports.org, there probably are images |
| 16:40.47 | en1gma | omg 1 version away |
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| 16:40.53 | en1gma | okie thanks |
| 16:40.58 | jim | you could try putting later kernel image package on it |
| 16:41.12 | en1gma | make my own? |
| 16:41.12 | bibe | en1gma : building your own kernel is straightforward |
| 16:41.20 | EdgEy | hmm |
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| 16:41.29 | en1gma | yea its not hard i was just hoping it came stock |
| 16:41.42 | jim | like 2.6.11 or thereabouts |
| 16:41.49 | en1gma | what is latest stable release and ill just grab that and compile a new one |
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| 16:42.12 | jim | nope, and (stockwise, officially) that will not change |
| 16:42.15 | kombi_ | jim: I found that there is mod_security for unstable, it says testing in the sources.list though.. |
| 16:42.16 | en1gma | the ati driver i have requires 2.6.12 so thats prob the one i will end up with |
| 16:42.18 | bibe | en1gma : the "difficult" part is optimizing it for your specific hardware, but building a generic kernel is simple |
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| 16:42.26 | jim | but you can get around that |
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| 16:42.40 | en1gma | bibe yea selecting all that stuff takes time |
| 16:42.40 | jim | ok, coffee time :) |
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| 16:42.57 | en1gma | ok so what is the latest stable release and ill grab that one |
| 16:42.57 | kombi_ | can someone make the bot tell me about testing vs. unstable? |
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| 16:43.18 | jim | packages "leak" from unstable to testing |
| 16:43.28 | asg | kombi_: /msg dpkg listkeys <keywords> ; /msg dpkg listvals <keywords> (find the factoid) |
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| 16:43.30 | bibe | en1gma : I have a 2.6.13.3 config file that includes most of the modules, it should work fine for you |
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| 16:43.40 | jim | and they might "leak" back if there are bugs |
| 16:43.49 | en1gma | i can only go upto 2.6.12 cause ati driver dont work then |
| 16:43.57 | en1gma | right now im at 2.6.13 |
| 16:44.00 | en1gma | and it no work |
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| 16:44.17 | kombi_ | jim: what if I just changed sources.list to unstable then? |
| 16:44.21 | bibe | en1gma : error. I have 2.6.13.3 and ati driver working (3d acceleration) |
| 16:44.37 | en1gma | mine wouldnt install |
| 16:44.41 | en1gma | said kernel mismatch |
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| 16:45.02 | bibe | en1gma : you have to compile the fglrx module, of course |
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| 16:45.14 | jim | kombi_: then you'd get packages from unstable... this could cause massive updating, changing your libc, etc |
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| 16:45.20 | en1gma | Oh i think i selected raedon |
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| 16:45.30 | jim | anyways I'm going for coffee now |
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| 16:45.38 | kombi_ | jim: but just for an apache module..? |
| 16:45.46 | en1gma | i need to get stable coming down cause im switching to debian today |
| 16:45.53 | en1gma | i need first 2 cds? |
| 16:45.57 | bibe | en1gma : you can find instructions at http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/debian/, or (better) at http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 16:46.00 | kombi_ | jim: not quite sure why I ended up on testing anyway.. |
| 16:46.01 | jim | exactly, you could just build it or look for backports |
| 16:46.02 | en1gma | but which ones do i need |
| 16:46.10 | rndr | Ronin: can u help me to change woody to sarge? |
| 16:46.12 | en1gma | i just gonna build it |
| 16:46.15 | jim | I'm going for COFFEE now... |
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| 16:46.38 | en1gma | 3.1_r0a ? |
| 16:46.46 | mere | change from woody to sarge, can't apt-get dist-upgrade do that? |
| 16:46.52 | en1gma | 3.1_r0 ? |
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| 16:47.06 | en1gma | 3.0_r1 ? |
| 16:47.10 | en1gma | which 2 do i need out of those |
| 16:47.17 | bibe | en1gma : 3.1_r0a, but you only need the netinstall mini CD |
| 16:47.19 | en1gma | r0a or r0 |
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| 16:47.28 | en1gma | i cant net install with this pda |
| 16:47.33 | humbolt | if I append video=vesafb:1280x800-16@60 to my kernel options, does this conflict (decrease performance) with using the proprietary nvidia drivers for xorg? |
| 16:47.35 | Ronin | rndr: do what dpkg told you to do |
| 16:47.37 | bibe | en1gma : ah ok |
| 16:47.38 | en1gma | so i need to get the first 2 full cds |
| 16:47.45 | rndr | Ronin: ye but |
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| 16:48.02 | rndr | Ronin: i don't now what this means => Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge" |
| 16:48.02 | en1gma | then upgrade kernel then get bluetooth working then i can net install |
| 16:48.08 | en1gma | which 2 cds |
| 16:48.23 | en1gma | r0 and r1 or r0a and r1 or r0a and r0 |
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| 16:48.45 | azeem | en1gma: why do you need the first two? |
| 16:48.56 | en1gma | cause usually those 2 have everything i want |
| 16:48.57 | azeem | en1gma: anyway 3.1r0a is the version number |
| 16:48.58 | en1gma | kde etc.. |
| 16:49.15 | azeem | so you'd need 3.1r0a CD1 and 3.1r0a CD2 |
| 16:49.21 | mere | rndr, try loading /etc/apt/sources.list with your favourite text editor (as root because of permissions) and change wherever it says "woody" to "sarge" |
| 16:49.27 | en1gma | ahhh |
| 16:49.29 | en1gma | okie |
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| 16:49.50 | rndr | mere: ok i will try |
| 16:49.52 | syntaxx | how can i add a new site in my sources.list using apt-setup choosing testing and unstable? |
| 16:49.52 | en1gma | is 3.1r0a the stable release? |
| 16:49.54 | azeem | yes |
| 16:49.56 | Ronin | mere: kind of like what dpkg said to do ;) |
| 16:50.04 | mere | lol |
| 16:50.19 | ircops | !lol |
| 16:50.19 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 16:50.27 | mere | oh |
| 16:50.29 | ircops | :D |
| 16:50.35 | mere | my bad, too used to the wrong ways. |
| 16:50.37 | elraun | hey all, i've been trying to recover from a broken apt upgrade. i'm now getting a message saying that the ide_detect module is missing. it seems to be a module from a previous version of the kernel. any ideas why my 2.6.8 might be looking for it all the sudden? |
| 16:50.47 | sudonim | hello. I have a brand new dell IA64 server that came with RHEL3. I have been really unhappy with the package quality on RHEL and wanted to know if anyone can advise me if the Debian IA64 packages are a little more stable? |
| 16:50.50 | ircops | I say it all the time hehe |
| 16:51.20 | en1gma | is 3.1roa the stable release |
| 16:51.20 | sudonim | Or should I use the i386 version instead? |
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| 16:51.24 | en1gma | r0a* |
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| 16:51.53 | darkness | ircops: lol |
| 16:51.58 | ircops | =] |
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| 16:52.38 | mere | so, we can't go LOLROFLMAOBBQ if someone is inspired enough to do a nice joke? |
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| 16:53.04 | darkness | Anyone know if sarge will work with the new storage media "blueray" when it's released next year? |
| 16:53.19 | sudonim | can anyone give me some advice on the IA64 version of Debian? |
| 16:53.32 | Ronin | !anyone |
| 16:53.32 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 16:53.34 | beardy | darkness: No, no one knows that. |
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| 16:54.13 | azeem | Ronin: this seemed to be a different case of 'anyone' |
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| 16:54.23 | sudonim | Is debian IA64 as stable as the I386 version |
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| 16:54.26 | Ronin | azeem: :) |
| 16:54.28 | beardy | wtf.. |
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| 16:54.45 | ircops | !different case of anyone |
| 16:54.47 | ircops | hehehe |
| 16:54.47 | elraun | anyone know if ide_detect module is used by 2.6.8? |
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| 16:54.57 | sudonim | :) |
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| 16:55.08 | Ronin | beardy: its our friends from .br again |
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| 16:55.40 | mere | i wonder why people from my country seems to enjoy being so lame.. |
| 16:56.10 | Ronin | mere: not just yours im sorry to say |
| 16:56.18 | ircops | heh |
| 16:56.30 | ircops | lamers come in all different sizes, shapes, colors, and nationalities |
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| 16:56.31 | beardy | mere: Don't worry, idiots live everywhere in the world. |
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| 16:56.36 | ircops | :D |
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| 16:57.12 | mere | but mine's are famous. .br ppl is famous for being lame and using awful colourful irc scripts that causes headaches, too. |
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| 16:57.23 | darkness | A lamer is just an inexperiance computer buff who hasn't learnt the skill how to use google and/or ask questions properly :-) |
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| 16:57.39 | mere | have to agree there... |
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| 16:58.15 | joaeq | hi i have a problem with my dhcp server and with my firewall, here is all the data that i can give http://pastebin.com/383881 , please if you can help or give me a direction... |
| 16:58.19 | Ronin | darkness: or someone really bored/ticked off with too much free time on thier hands |
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| 16:58.54 | EvilSporkMan | Ronin: I thought that was your average person in #debian ;) |
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| 16:59.03 | Ronin | EvilSporkMan: heh |
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| 16:59.15 | darkness | lol, Damn heh :-) |
| 16:59.29 | kombi_ | what was the apt command again that just shows what will be done but doesn't do anything? |
| 16:59.35 | EvilSporkMan | kombi_: man apt-get |
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| 16:59.58 | kombi_ | EvilSprokMan: you know man pages? |
| 17:00.10 | EvilSporkMan | kombi_: I'm familiar with them... |
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| 17:00.59 | mere | apt-get -h gives answers too, in less text |
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| 17:01.29 | beardy | apt-get --help works fine too. |
| 17:01.44 | vences | -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act |
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| 17:01.55 | vences | all in the man |
| 17:01.58 | ellobo | hi |
| 17:02.11 | mere | hullo |
| 17:02.20 | ellobo | is there any way of telling my system to use gcc-3.3 to provide gcc ? |
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| 17:02.42 | beardy | ellobo: run 'gcc-3.3' |
| 17:02.46 | ellobo | forgot to say: i am using unstable with gcc-4.0 |
| 17:03.03 | beardy | ellobo: Then you can figure it out. |
| 17:03.05 | ellobo | !laugh at beardy |
| 17:03.07 | dpkg | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! beardy just cracks me up! |
| 17:03.15 | beardy | !pal ellobo |
| 17:03.23 | azeem | gentlemen. |
| 17:03.26 | dondelelcaro | joaeq: 1) what address is the windows machine getting 2) traceroute -n to a known ip address and see where it fails |
| 17:03.40 | mere | just "gcc" will point to the latest version. but you can get all versions you have installed if you type gcc and tab enough times. |
| 17:03.41 | ellobo | i mean to compile a source code from other person |
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| 17:04.06 | ellobo | using make for instance |
| 17:04.09 | beardy | *plonk* |
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| 17:04.15 | azeem | ellobo: most builds systems honor the CC environment variable |
| 17:04.30 | ellobo | not this one :P |
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| 17:04.36 | dondelelcaro | or HOSTCC or CXX or whatever. |
| 17:04.42 | dondelelcaro | ellobo: well, figure out what it is using. |
| 17:04.46 | azeem | ellobo: then fix it :) |
| 17:04.54 | dondelelcaro | it's not like reading the Makefile is all that difficult |
| 17:05.02 | ellobo | in the top of the Makefile is a var named CC which i supposed to be the one... |
| 17:05.12 | tarzeau | !seen greycat |
| 17:05.13 | dpkg | greycat is currently on #debian-ops (5h 4m 37s) #debian-bots (5h 4m 37s). Has said a total of 101336 messages. Is idling for 8d 3h 10m 19s |
| 17:05.18 | azeem | ellobo: so that is probably set by configure |
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| 17:05.22 | CodeWarrior_ | hello folks |
| 17:05.36 | mere | hello~ |
| 17:05.38 | ellobo | changed it to gcc-3.3 and now gives me: "cc1: error: invalid option `tune=pentium3'" ... and some more... |
| 17:05.39 | elraun | anyone know when the /lib/modules/.../kernel/drivers/ dir is created? |
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| 17:06.01 | azeem | ellobo: if this is a autoconf-enabled package, better rerun configure with CC=gcc-3.3 |
| 17:06.12 | CodeWarrior_ | I need help about Mars-Netware and Debian Sarge. Is there anybody here that got them working together ? |
| 17:06.16 | ellobo | no configure :P |
| 17:06.20 | mere | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.22 | darkness | I've always wondered if most people in here are students because i see some familair nicks that have been here for months? |
| 17:06.23 | valdyn_ | ellobo: for similiar issues i just use ( being lazy ) a symlink to whatever i want in ~/bin and have ~/bin in my path ( at the start of that variable ) |
| 17:06.25 | mere | akk, beats me to it |
| 17:06.36 | azeem | mere: I don't think that works in general. |
| 17:06.37 | beardy | elraun: When a kernel is installed. |
| 17:06.51 | azeem | ellobo: well, then you need to fix the rest of the Makefile as well |
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| 17:07.13 | mere | not in general.. just an attempt. dunno really what's the problem either, it's perhaps in the makefile (or it's just me not able to read everything people write here) |
| 17:07.14 | ellobo | hum... will do... |
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| 17:07.23 | elraun | beardy: why would debian be trying to load a module from that dir that doesn't exist then? |
| 17:07.37 | azeem | mere: the general way is to run 'CC=gcc-3.3 ./configure' |
| 17:07.41 | azeem | (btw) |
| 17:07.45 | mere | oh |
| 17:07.59 | mere | the way round worked for me when i compiled qemu.. |
| 17:08.02 | beardy | elraun: define "debian" Something specific must be loading it/trying to load something. |
| 17:08.02 | marty | what's the utility that controls mice in debian? |
| 17:08.04 | mere | luck perhaps |
| 17:08.16 | valdyn_ | ellobo: there's various mechanisms via which applications can trigger the try to load a module |
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| 17:08.45 | azeem | valdyn_: s/ellobo/elraun/ |
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| 17:08.53 | beardy | marty: gpm for the console, X for the gui. |
| 17:08.54 | valdyn_ | ops |
| 17:08.56 | elraun | beardy: when i boot, i get "ide_detect module not found". that module is in the modules dir for a diffferent version of the kernel. |
| 17:08.57 | ellobo | gcc-4.0 compiles fine... problem is: the source code is a kernel module (at76c503) and the kernel was compiled with gcc-3.3 so it complaints when inserting the module |
| 17:08.59 | marty | thanks |
| 17:09.00 | valdyn_ | elraun: ^^^ |
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| 17:09.15 | itu | how can i quickly find out which version of gcc a custom binary is compiled with? |
| 17:09.18 | marty | and what is the config utility for xfree86? |
| 17:09.27 | gluffis | howdy |
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| 17:09.38 | itu | ellobo: a PITA isn't it. |
| 17:09.47 | beardy | elraun: Yes? And it seems to need to be in dir of the one you try to run too. |
| 17:09.57 | CodeWarrior_ | nobody runs mars-nwe ? |
| 17:09.59 | beardy | elraun: Are you compiling a kernel? |
| 17:10.06 | yazid-work | ok... I have a strange problem with official builds of mozilla thunderbird (debian build works ok on boxen in question) on machines which were (cleanly) dist upgraded to sarge from testing ... with a new sarge system, just fine. yep I straced myself sick already. any ideas? |
| 17:10.13 | gluffis | is there some kind of howto for building an apt repository ? |
| 17:10.15 | beardy | !drxx marty |
| 17:10.16 | dpkg | marty: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:10.25 | tarzeau | gluffis: yes. tried google yet? |
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| 17:10.36 | marty | thanks again |
| 17:10.41 | emergo | my keyboard stopped working in X (gnome) unstable... It works fine in gdm, when I log on eith username and pass |
| 17:10.45 | gluffis | yes, didn't find any useful links ? |
| 17:10.51 | gluffis | s/?// |
| 17:11.15 | XTR-II | Hi. Why is it when I VNC to my Debian box I get one terminal window and a grey desktop? |
| 17:11.20 | elraun | i didn't upgrade the kernel |
| 17:11.21 | gluffis | only client side of apt system... |
| 17:11.28 | tarzeau | someone got an idea why this is broken in sarge, and what the right fix is? www.linuks.mine.nu/people/mn/latex-xfig-mn.png |
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| 17:11.46 | beardy | XTR-II: What's wrong with that? What should you get? |
| 17:11.51 | tarzeau | XTR-II: failsafe mode? |
| 17:11.53 | elraun | i was going to but then ran into the gcc error. |
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| 17:11.58 | ircops | is there a support channel for blootbot ? |
| 17:12.03 | XTR-II | Oh. I dunno. Maybe my KDE desktop? |
| 17:12.04 | tarzeau | XTR-II: run a windowmanager from the terminal |
| 17:12.12 | beardy | ircops: #blootbot ? |
| 17:12.16 | ircops | nop3 |
| 17:12.22 | ircops | hmmm |
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| 17:12.35 | ircops | guess not then |
| 17:12.39 | ircops | thx |
| 17:12.43 | donald | XTR-II: you need to create a .vnc dir in your home directory and create a xstartup file |
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| 17:12.49 | XTR-II | tarzeau I thought it was suppose to connect to my already running KDE on the box? |
| 17:12.50 | beardy | XTR-II: Depends on which vnc server you're running. |
| 17:12.51 | elraun | could i copy the module from a 2.4 kernel dir to a 2.6? i assume not. |
| 17:13.00 | valdyn_ | elraun: no |
| 17:13.07 | XTR-II | I'm running vnc4server. |
| 17:13.12 | valdyn_ | elraun: why would you want it anyway |
| 17:13.17 | tarzeau | elraun: copy sure, it won't run though |
| 17:13.19 | beardy | XTR-II: apt-cache search vnc, can't remember the name of the one you want |
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| 17:13.36 | valdyn_ | elraun: some module not being found is not an error |
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| 17:13.51 | Anthro | tarzeau: Is mn produced with a macro? |
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| 17:14.00 | valdyn_ | elraun: in your case I assume its listed in /etc/modules |
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| 17:14.21 | elraun | when it doesn't find it, the rest of the setup says it fails to mount local filesystems. although i can cd to them. |
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| 17:14.28 | XTR-II | Aye. I have no idea how to create a xstartup file in my home dir. |
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| 17:14.40 | Anthro | tarzeau: Hang on, are you using PSTricks? |
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| 17:14.57 | elraun | it is in /etc/modules. i'll try removing it. |
| 17:15.07 | valdyn_ | elraun: that's not possible, try again ( your explanation does not make sense, try to describe your problem as it occurs, not as you interpret it ) |
| 17:15.17 | beardy | XTR-II: x11vnc perhaps. |
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| 17:15.53 | XTR-II | beardy Is that better? |
| 17:15.56 | tarzeau | Anthro: uh, i'm not sure :) it's not really me. |
| 17:15.59 | nite613 | I have a funny problem with DNS tools like nslookup, dig, host, etc. If I type "dig google.com" it tells me "connection timed out". But if I do "dig @192.168.2.1 google.com" it comes back right away. 192.168.2.1 is listed as my only nameserver in resolv.conf. What gives? |
| 17:16.01 | donald | XTR-II: make a ~/.vnc/xstartup with exec /opt/kde3/bin/startkde &". |
| 17:16.02 | nite613 | Anyone have any ideas? |
| 17:16.09 | valdyn_ | elraun: removing it is alright, but that isnt going to fix anyway but shut up that "error" message |
| 17:16.17 | Anthro | tarzeau: Uh-huh. Well, there's a lot of missing information. |
| 17:16.19 | valdyn_ | s/anyway/anything/ |
| 17:16.19 | tarzeau | Anthro: how do i know if he's using pstricks? |
| 17:16.36 | beardy | XTR-II: I don't know, but according to it's description it will do what you want, let you attach to your curretly running X session. |
| 17:16.38 | Anthro | tarzeau: Well, there would have to be an \includepackage somewhere. |
| 17:16.40 | tarzeau | Anthro: it worked with woody |
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| 17:17.01 | donald | XTR-II: then vnc will start kde |
| 17:17.04 | XTR-II | donald I already have an xstartup. |
| 17:17.07 | Anthro | tarzeau: For all I know the issue is that woody had some fonts that sarge doesn't. |
| 17:17.18 | XTR-II | Do I just put exec /opt/kde3/bin/startkde &" in there? |
| 17:17.21 | elraun | i rebooted: one message says ext3 mounted file systems with ordered data then later i see "mounting local filesytems failed" |
| 17:17.30 | elraun | i can still cd to all dirs. |
| 17:17.30 | valdyn_ | XTR-II: skip the & there |
| 17:17.32 | donald | XTR-II: yes. try it. |
| 17:17.35 | Loevborg | nite613, what server does dig use? (look at the end of the output) |
| 17:17.40 | XTR-II | k Thanks manG. |
| 17:17.41 | Anthro | XTR-II: Is the issue that you want to be able to connect to your existing login from elsewhere? |
| 17:17.55 | XTR-II | Anthro Yes. |
| 17:17.59 | donald | valdyn_: why skip the & ?? |
| 17:17.59 | valdyn_ | XTR-II: that exec line should be the last command in that file and no way it should have an '&' |
| 17:18.18 | Anthro | XTR-II: You need to run x0rfbserver, which is in the rfb package. |
| 17:18.18 | valdyn_ | donald: if he & it then the xserver will just shutdown after executing that command |
| 17:18.34 | XTR-II | k. |
| 17:18.45 | XTR-II | Anthro Thanks, I'll check that out. |
| 17:19.16 | valdyn_ | donald: starting 'startkde' should be a blocking event.( blocking the Xserver from shutting down, in a way ). Upon termination of startkde its x-server should shut down. |
| 17:19.24 | nite613 | Loevborg: It doesn't say when it fails. When it works it shows the server I specify |
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| 17:19.46 | Anthro | XTR-II: You will want a ~/.x0rfbserver file, in general. x0rfbserver will create one the first time you use it, but by default it won't allow VNC connections until you click on a button on the X display. |
| 17:19.51 | donald | valdyn_: ah, ok |
| 17:20.25 | nite613 | Loevborg: http://pastebin.com/384043 |
| 17:20.30 | Anthro | XTR-II: I can send mine to #flood, if you like. It will bypass the button confirmation. It also has an empty password. |
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| 17:20.57 | XTR-II | Anthro Will this work with vnc4server ? |
| 17:21.11 | abrotman | rndr: you got it working? |
| 17:21.28 | Loevborg | nite613, drop the "search" line |
| 17:21.32 | Anthro | XTR-II: vnc4server is an entirely different piece of software. It provides a new X11 display. |
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| 17:21.39 | XTR-II | Aaaaaah. ok. |
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| 17:21.59 | Anthro | XTR-II: Do you mean xvnc4viewer? |
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| 17:22.26 | Kuku | hi |
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| 17:22.33 | abrotman | Ronin: did he get it ? |
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| 17:22.36 | nite613 | Loevborg: Really? OMG that worked. resolv.conf is being written from DHCP, I guess I have to find the config on the DHCP server |
| 17:22.39 | XTR-II | Anthro no, server, I'm connecting to Debian with a WIndows box. |
| 17:22.50 | nite613 | thanks |
| 17:23.12 | simy | Somthing is using *.smtp in netstat, whats the command to see which program is using it? |
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| 17:23.33 | simy | er its *:smtp |
| 17:23.43 | Anthro | XTR-II: On Windows, I recommend using plain old VNCviewer. I use PuTTy to make an SSH connection with a tunnel for VNC, then VNCviewer to use it. |
| 17:23.44 | Loevborg | nite613, yw (dhclient shoudln't output borken resolv.conf's though= |
| 17:23.52 | emergo | when I log into gnome Im unable to use keyboard . . . Anyone have a clue why , or how to fix ? bip bip bip it say un the speaker when I hit any key. . . Afterstep works fine |
| 17:24.04 | Anthro | simy: lsof |
| 17:24.13 | simy | Anthro thanks... |
| 17:24.13 | Anthro | simy: or fuser, I think. I always use lsof. |
| 17:24.40 | Anthro | XTR-II: Do you want that .x0rfbserver file on #flood? |
| 17:24.41 | XTR-II | Anthro How would I reload xstartup after I saved it? |
| 17:24.53 | XTR-II | Anthro YEs please. |
| 17:24.54 | Anthro | XTR-II: I'm not sure what you are asking. |
| 17:24.57 | nite613 | Loevborg: Well it does? I'm using dnsmasq as the dhcp server, and the domain option is commented out; I'd bet that's whats doing it |
| 17:25.02 | simy | anthro, well i can man them both, reading lsof right now, i think thast the one i was thinking of tho... |
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| 17:25.11 | stew | simy: netstat -pl | grep smtp |
| 17:26.02 | Anthro | XTR-II: There's the .x0rfbserver file. |
| 17:26.05 | stew | simy: you have to be root for -p to work for processes you don't own |
| 17:26.35 | simy | stew well im trying to setup xmail, so im allready root on the server.... |
| 17:26.48 | simy | stew apparently its exim4... |
| 17:27.03 | XTR-II | Thanks man. |
| 17:27.22 | darkness | SSH is starting to really annoy me.If i ssh darkness@localhost i can connect.If i log into a remote shell and try romote login it pings time out.Now i don't have a firewall or iptables only a router.This router has port 22 open in services and firewall rules? |
| 17:27.33 | stew | simy: are you not using the debian xmail package? |
| 17:27.40 | Frem | does anyone know how to get gtkwifi (http://gtkwifi.sourceforge.net/)working with debian? python2.4-gnome2 and python2.4-gnome2-extras, two dependacies, are not in stable or testing. |
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| 17:28.00 | stew | simy: apt-get install xmail should remove exim4 |
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| 17:28.08 | simy | stew no, i installed it by hand from the tar.gz (the site i saw that had a walk through i could understand, said it was best... and when i did apt-getit, i couldnt find the config files.... |
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| 17:28.31 | stew | simy: the config files would be in /etc/xmail or they would be documented in /usr/share/doc/xmail |
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| 17:28.59 | simy | stew: im still trying to learn how the file system works, but in the mean time my dads website is down, lol |
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| 17:29.21 | stew | simy: if you aren't going to use the debian package (which you really should be using) then you need to install an equiv that provides mail-transport-agent. /msg dpkg equivs |
| 17:29.26 | Anthro | darkness: That means that regardless of what you may think about your lack of firewall and router setup, packets are not getting through. This is not your SSH daemon's fault, this is a packet routing/filtering problem. |
| 17:29.41 | nite613 | cool, I typed 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' and after catting the file bash hung. strace says its stuck on waipid(-1, and the cat process is already gone |
| 17:29.44 | nite613 | nifty |
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| 17:30.05 | Anthro | darkness: In general, a router must have a port directed to a particular machine, not just "open." Is it directed at the right IP address? |
| 17:30.07 | simy | stew: so can i just stop now and apt-get it? |
| 17:30.38 | abrotman | might help him to do a verbose ssh also |
| 17:30.39 | darkness | Anthto, yes.Directed to 192.168.0.1 |
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| 17:31.09 | Anthro | darkness: Is 192.168.0.1 the IP address of your computer or the router? That looks like the router's address. |
| 17:31.12 | stew | simy: i don't know what you have done. if you have installed xmail in /usr/local and are going to apt-get it, you should remove it from /usr/local |
| 17:31.13 | vekpos | whats the bus-specific format for the first pci-slot? PCI:0:16:0? |
| 17:31.20 | darek | hi, how I can check do I have a snd-via82xx module for alsa, I just install my new Debian Sarge and I don't have sound |
| 17:31.23 | abrotman | is it for X ? |
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| 17:31.29 | vekpos | <es |
| 17:31.36 | vekpos | yes |
| 17:31.39 | simy | stew: ok, more reading and trying to figure it out, then i guess, lol |
| 17:31.44 | abrotman | most people leave the busID blank |
| 17:31.59 | stew | simy: if you installed it with "make install", you should also have a "make uninstall" option |
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| 17:32.05 | itu | how do i quickly determine the recursion depth of a directory? |
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| 17:32.12 | wesley | hi |
| 17:32.13 | stew | vekpos: you can leave it blank unless you are on a mac or have more than one card |
| 17:32.18 | wesley | so i have a notebook |
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| 17:32.27 | wesley | and i'd like to set the mouse.. |
| 17:32.32 | wesley | can you help me? |
| 17:32.40 | darkness | Anthro: 192.168.0.1 is a lan ip of my router. |
| 17:32.51 | vekpos | @stew i want to install a voodoo1-card |
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| 17:33.08 | darek | could someone help me? |
| 17:33.11 | tarzeau | takatumi: /join #bub-n-bros ? |
| 17:33.17 | abrotman | Anthro: that would the wrong IP .. you should have your router direct the ssh port to the IP of the machine you want to connect to |
| 17:33.25 | Anthro | darkness: Then you wouldn't want to tell the router to forward connections on port 22 to itself, would you? |
| 17:33.26 | stew | wesley: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 17:33.30 | abrotman | darek: modconf |
| 17:33.35 | abrotman | !alsa oneliner |
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| 17:33.39 | abrotman | hrm |
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| 17:33.48 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 17:33.48 | dpkg | somebody said alsa one-liner was apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
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| 17:34.13 | darek | I got that packages |
| 17:34.22 | abrotman | so run alsaconf |
| 17:34.33 | r2910 | I RTFM but I can't figure out, how do you make apt-get install a package and ignore dependencies? (I tried -m and -f). |
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| 17:34.53 | darkness | Anthro: Worked that way before i installed sarge. |
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| 17:35.04 | darek | I done that, but It tells me: No supported PnP or PCI card found. |
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| 17:35.07 | wers | r2910 i managed with dselect... |
| 17:35.22 | abrotman | darek: lspci .. do oyu see your sound card? |
| 17:35.24 | vekpos | whats the bus-specific format for the first pci-slot? The Format should be PCI:X:Y:Z. I want to install a voodoo1-card |
| 17:35.27 | darek | yes |
| 17:35.37 | Anthro | darkness: Humor me. Change your router to point to the IP address of your machine instead of its own address. See if it works. |
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| 17:35.49 | darek | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.09 | wesley | so. |
| 17:36.16 | stew | vekpos: lspci | grep VGA, the busid will be in the first column |
| 17:36.21 | wers | how do i make my dhcp-server accept requests from the wlan? |
| 17:36.50 | wesley | stew, do you know when use click with the seinsible region of the mouse of the notebook, and u can use the lateral to activate the scroll? |
| 17:36.59 | darek | abrotman: alsa support that card - I checked |
| 17:37.05 | tarzeau | nobody join us? gnu.ethz.ch:33276 with http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ? |
| 17:37.16 | stew | wesley: /msg dpkg synaptics |
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| 17:37.29 | stew | wesley: the url in that factoid has all the relevent configuration options |
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| 17:37.49 | itu | anyone know how i might quickly output the number of directories deep a given directory goes? eg /foo/foo/foo would be a depth of 3 |
| 17:37.53 | humbolt | does anybody know what the nomce kernel option does? |
| 17:37.59 | abrotman | darek: alsaconf should load the modules |
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| 17:38.51 | wesley | wich?? |
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| 17:38.53 | asg | itu: tr -dc '/' | wc -c (or something like that) |
| 17:38.55 | Frem | can someone reccommend a good gtk wifi management program? |
| 17:39.01 | crispynix | humbolt: disables the detection/handling of Machine Check Exceptions, I'd guess. Not something you want to do. |
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| 17:39.05 | wers | why would my sql server just die when i remove 256mb ram? |
| 17:39.06 | stew | !tell wesley about synaptics |
| 17:39.09 | abrotman | Frem: it hought there was one in gnome |
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| 17:39.22 | abrotman | wers: because it only had 256MB to start with ? |
| 17:39.28 | itu | asg: hmm, wc looks useful. that said, i'd like this to be an ls switch. |
| 17:39.33 | Frem | abrotman: Is there? I can't run Gnome on this old machine. |
| 17:39.36 | darek | abrotman: but alsaconf tells me: No supported PnP or PCI card found.Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips? Yes/No |
| 17:39.37 | wers | abrotman no.. i had 512, |
| 17:39.51 | abrotman | Frem: oh .. then i'm not sure |
| 17:39.51 | darkness | anthro: My firewall rules says forward to lan server which is 192.168.0.1 which i use. |
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| 17:40.09 | abrotman | darek: all i can think is that OSS is using them .. are you running a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel ? |
| 17:40.11 | quittt | is it possible to run Netscape 1.0 on Linux? |
| 17:40.17 | asg | itu: I'm not sure ls has such a switch. |
| 17:40.28 | itu | asg: no it doesn't seem to. |
| 17:40.39 | abrotman | quittt: 1.0 ? |
| 17:40.39 | asg | itu: how often is this functionality going to be needed? |
| 17:40.42 | abrotman | why the hell would you |
| 17:40.45 | darek | I am newbie, I installed Debian Sarge 3.1 |
| 17:40.48 | Anthro | darkness: What firewall? |
| 17:40.48 | humbolt | crispynix: I am trying to get my console to run under 1024x768 or 1280x800. vga=791 should do the trick and it works in knoppix, but not with my debian. |
| 17:40.49 | abrotman | it would support .. HTML2.0 if you're lucky |
| 17:40.50 | crispynix | quittt: probably not, since it'd be linked against ancient libs in the wrong binary format. |
| 17:41.03 | itu | asg: reasonably often atm ;) |
| 17:41.11 | abrotman | darek: uname -r |
| 17:41.13 | quittt | abrotman, some people like old things =D |
| 17:41.17 | quittt | I like Netscape 3.0 |
| 17:41.18 | asg | itu: what I was getting at was 'number of times per second' |
| 17:41.31 | darkness | Anthro: Firewall setting on my router.I can change firewall settings to allow traffic via port numbers. |
| 17:41.34 | crispynix | humbolt: try vesafb-tng perhaps, that lets you specify mods like 1280x1024 (literally) |
| 17:41.36 | darek | kernel: 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 17:41.38 | crispynix | *modes |
| 17:41.44 | asg | itu: if you only use it yourself periodically, then a simple alias the to command above would do the trick |
| 17:41.46 | Anthro | darkness: You have a NAT router, right? And it has port 22 directed to some IP address within the 192.168.0.xxx subnet, right? Is that IP address the address of your computer? If not, make it so. |
| 17:41.49 | abrotman | quittt: that's nice .. but it won't support anything recent .. like html4 or xml or flash or anything :) |
| 17:41.54 | abrotman | or even xhtml |
| 17:41.56 | quittt | abrotman, well I found a guy the used Mosaic on WinXP |
| 17:42.03 | itu | asg: it certainly doesn't need to be fast.. i will alias the above command yes. thanks |
| 17:42.06 | mere | ooh good question, terminal looks very ugly in 800x600, always wondered if there was a way to set it to 1024x768 |
| 17:42.07 | abrotman | quittt: he's a moron |
| 17:42.11 | Frem | quittt: maybe it you somehow managed to find a completely staticly linked version... That was not compiled on a 2.0 kernel... |
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| 17:42.22 | mere | hm |
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| 17:42.27 | abrotman | quittt: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ |
| 17:42.34 | humbolt | crispynix: does this conflict with using proprietary nvidia driver for xorg? |
| 17:42.41 | mjk69 | abrotman: a moron coz he's using XP? Right. :-) |
| 17:42.46 | quittt | whats that |
| 17:42.48 | crispynix | humbolt: nope :) |
| 17:42.50 | asg | itu: you could also write a shell script to take arguments, do caching, etc if you really want to get fancy :) |
| 17:42.55 | abrotman | no .. because i was using Mosaic in 1996 when i was at PSU |
| 17:42.56 | r2910 | .qyut |
| 17:42.58 | abrotman | and it sucked then |
| 17:42.59 | quittt | XP is a great windows comparing with old versions... |
| 17:43.14 | Ronin | quittt: keeps me employed :) |
| 17:43.20 | stew | !dbugs 290489 |
| 17:43.22 | wers | .word |
| 17:43.23 | dpkg | #290489:W[wnpp] ITP: mosaic -- Lightweight World Wide Web browser for the X Window System; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:48 UTC |
| 17:43.23 | crispynix | humbolt: you'll need to build your own (patched) kernel though |
| 17:43.24 | mjk69 | abrotman: At least XMosaic had something I liked: command keys without modifiers |
| 17:43.39 | mjk69 | quittt: Well, it's still Windows. :-) |
| 17:43.39 | abrotman | mjk69: you can do that with many browsers today .. |
| 17:43.50 | itu | asg: yeah, right now it seems like it would be pretty useful. maybe i'll look into it at some stage soon. |
| 17:43.58 | darkness | Anthro: yes 192.168.0.1 is my lans computer ip address. |
| 17:44.06 | quittt | abrotman, now Netscape is complete shit |
| 17:44.08 | abrotman | well .. that just changed |
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| 17:44.15 | abrotman | quittt: you don't like firefox ? |
| 17:44.23 | humbolt | crispynix: I would be satisfied with vga=791, but it does not seem to work. can it be that my bootsplash simply is to small? |
| 17:44.23 | quittt | abrotman, yes I do |
| 17:44.30 | mjk69 | abrotman: yeah, but the reminiscences! |
| 17:44.32 | abrotman | quittt: Netscape IS firefox |
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| 17:44.46 | quittt | abrotman, not at all... Netscape use IE engine |
| 17:44.52 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 17:44.58 | crispynix | humbolt: no idea, sorry :/ |
| 17:45.08 | Anthro | darkness: If you run ifconfig the inet addr listed is 192.168.0.1? Really? That's a very unlikely IP address. If it is the same as your router's IP address, that could easily cause your problems. |
| 17:45.16 | abrotman | quittt: i think you're a moron :) |
| 17:45.27 | stew | quittt: what is IE engine? |
| 17:45.35 | Gathond | abrotman: actually I think the most recent netscape has that choice |
| 17:45.45 | quittt | stew, you can switch in Netscape to Gecko or IE rendering engine |
| 17:45.50 | stew | wtf |
| 17:45.50 | abrotman | Gathond: i think it's coming .. not yet |
| 17:46.07 | quittt | abrotman, Netscape 8 does that |
| 17:46.09 | wers | i got a dhcp serving my (cabled) lan, and in the same gateway i have a acx111 wlan card that runs nice... but how do i configure it as a pear so i can connect my laptop? |
| 17:46.11 | grendal_prime | hey i got a werid one here |
| 17:46.13 | Gathond | abrotman: iirc the 8.0 should have it, might be wrong and it being the next version though |
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| 17:46.17 | grendal_prime | im remotely building a machine.. |
| 17:46.20 | J_P | hey, where I configure in apache LC_TIME=pt_BR ? |
| 17:46.23 | itu | bye and thanks asg |
| 17:46.26 | abrotman | since N8 has tabbed browsing .. and unless they wrote some really freaking stupid code to switch renderers(aka bloat) .. i don't think IE supports tabs |
| 17:46.28 | Fluten | i am using testing, and debian upgraded me from XFree86 to Xorg, and now my performance is very bad. can i tell it not to use Xorg, and to use XFree86 instead? |
| 17:46.32 | J_P | In wht file I add taht parameter ? |
| 17:46.38 | EdgEy | ifluten, fix xorg's config |
| 17:46.41 | grendal_prime | installed x..and im running a vncserver so i can connect as a user...but im not getting the desktop im expectiong |
| 17:46.44 | EdgEy | Fluten* |
| 17:46.52 | grendal_prime | im just ketting an x session that will not let me really do anything |
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| 17:46.59 | wers | grendal_prime ..try x11vnc |
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| 17:47.05 | stew | Fluten: not using debian packages. xfree was removed from etch |
| 17:47.06 | quittt | abrotman, it is firefox shell with IE engine... |
| 17:47.08 | grendal_prime | tried that |
| 17:47.11 | Anthro | grendal_prime: You want rfb, not vnc4server. |
| 17:47.11 | grendal_prime | it fails.. |
| 17:47.16 | XTR-II | exec /opt/kde3/bin/startkde: No such file or directory |
| 17:47.30 | wers | grendal_prime u started the server with as right user? |
| 17:47.31 | abrotman | quittt: so it sucks how? .. becuase it *can* use IE .. and you keep telling it to ? |
| 17:47.31 | grendal_prime | im using tightvncserver |
| 17:47.40 | XTR-II | ACk. Where would startkde be? I need to learn how to use grep eh. |
| 17:47.44 | emRick` | dialup modem is messing up my internal ethernet connection. how can I fix it? |
| 17:47.51 | Fluten | will this problem eventually be fixed? In some of my apps, i see the screen refreshing very slowly |
| 17:47.57 | grendal_prime | ya its connecting to an x session that i started as the correct user its just not starting up ..well kde is what ive installed |
| 17:47.59 | quittt | abrotman, and it is veryyy unstable |
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| 17:48.07 | quittt | I dont know if it Netscape or Windows hehehe |
| 17:48.08 | stew | XTR-II: /msg dpkg search |
| 17:48.08 | abrotman | i can't find a single thing that says in the options you can switch it |
| 17:48.08 | grendal_prime | i adjust the xinitrc file for the user to read...kde |
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| 17:48.10 | Fluten | and when i run a packet sniffer, like ethereal, it refreshes so slow, that xorg takes up all the cpu, and i can't do anything at all |
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| 17:48.15 | grendal_prime | still no dice |
| 17:48.15 | XTR-II | Thanks. |
| 17:48.24 | abrotman | ah .. finally i found it |
| 17:48.25 | darkness | Anthro: tks for your help.I've sorted the error out :-) |
| 17:48.26 | abrotman | http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/help/nav_help.jsp#nav_swapping |
| 17:48.29 | quittt | abrotman, hehe |
| 17:48.30 | grendal_prime | and thing is...i though kdm would show up on the 0:0 |
| 17:48.46 | grendal_prime | but x11vnc shows nothing and |
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| 17:48.49 | vekpos | "EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,1)) in start_transaction: Journal has aborted" - whats this? |
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| 17:48.59 | abrotman | quittt: then use Anaya |
| 17:49.01 | abrotman | err amaya |
| 17:49.12 | Anthro | darkness: Excellent. |
| 17:49.29 | Fluten | what kind of liscence problems does xfree have? |
| 17:49.30 | wers | grendal_prime try putting exec kde in ~/.Xsession |
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| 17:49.47 | darkness | Anthro: the forwarding address in init changed with the upgrade for some reason so i wasn't forwarding correctly. |
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| 17:50.23 | bnoji | http://www.pcmall.com/pcmall/shop/detail~dpno~648098.asp <- Would there be any reason this would not work in 2.4 as a USB mass storage device? |
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| 17:50.38 | Anthro | darkness: I see. |
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| 17:50.55 | Sepho | hi al!! |
| 17:51.03 | Sepho | where can i see the log file for X windows?? |
| 17:51.10 | mere | uuh, busy place |
| 17:51.10 | quittt | abrotman, but i like firefox and opera |
| 17:51.14 | mjk69 | Sepho: /var/log/X* |
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| 17:51.28 | tarzeau | !x |
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| 17:51.42 | grendal_prime | wers i get the same damn thing |
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| 17:51.51 | grendal_prime | x session with a terminal window open..thats it |
| 17:51.53 | wers | grendal_prime ..odd |
| 17:52.02 | Sepho | thanks |
| 17:52.09 | abrotman | quittt: then use opera |
| 17:52.12 | darkness | Anthro: Before i was using sarge and forwarding it to 192.168.0.10 to all services including ircd and ssh.So i was confused why not changing the router profile i was having troubles with port forwarding. |
| 17:52.12 | Sepho | for ps2 mosues the directory is /dev/psaux? |
| 17:52.23 | r0b3rt0 | Sepho: yes |
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| 17:52.49 | grendal_prime | and what happend to xkill?? |
| 17:52.58 | grendal_prime | i cant get that to work right ither |
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| 17:53.12 | Anthro | grendal_prime: You have an X session running on some machine and you want to be able to use it from elsewhere? You need to use x0rfbserver from the rfb package. You also need a ~/.x0rfbserver config file, which I can give you, to bypass the click to confirm annoyance. |
| 17:53.14 | grendal_prime | its xkill - 0:1 |
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| 17:53.43 | shai_ | how do create a group with two people in it? |
| 17:53.45 | wesley | stew, how can i install it?? |
| 17:53.50 | wesley | i'm a newbie |
| 17:53.53 | wesley | :-( |
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| 17:54.13 | quittt | abrotman, tell me your ensencial programs |
| 17:54.15 | grendal_prime | thats weird Anthro ive never needed that in the past that im aware of |
| 17:54.15 | grendal_prime | ok ill look.. |
| 17:54.19 | abrotman | shai_: addname ? |
| 17:54.21 | tarzeau | shai_: what about you create two poeple and one group? |
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| 17:54.31 | abrotman | quittt: i use Lesbian GNU/Linux |
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| 17:54.50 | sether | shai_: groupname:x:0:user1,user2 in /etc/group |
| 17:54.52 | jim | abrotman: heyy,,, that's a derivative! |
| 17:54.53 | grendal_prime | actually anthro...its a vnc server |
| 17:54.53 | shai_ | tarzeau, say i want to give another guy access to a folder of mine, how do i do it? |
| 17:54.56 | sven | hi, iam new to debian - how can i update gnome to >2.10 ,default is 2,8 and it always starts up with failures. |
| 17:55.03 | abrotman | jim: i still support debian! :) |
| 17:55.05 | Anthro | grendal_prime: What is? |
| 17:55.06 | tarzeau | shai_: using chmod ? |
| 17:55.07 | shai_ | sether, oh okay |
| 17:55.09 | quittt | lesbian? |
| 17:55.12 | sandman | How do I "reget" with sftp? |
| 17:55.12 | quittt | auaehuaehuhhahahaha |
| 17:55.16 | shai_ | tarzeau, chgrp i was thinking |
| 17:55.21 | quittt | sandman from #slackware?? |
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| 17:55.38 | mjk69 | abrotman: And you're male? |
| 17:55.39 | sether | sven: you could use backports, but i'ts not recommended. what issues are you having with GNOME 2.8? |
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| 17:55.45 | grendal_prime | the machien i want to admin...i login ssh and run vncserver it fires up a vncserver on 0:1 |
| 17:55.57 | quittt | I will be back |
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| 17:56.02 | shai_ | sether, i dont' have /etc/group i'm just a user on this system.... |
| 17:56.08 | Anthro | grendal_prime: So what is the problem you are having? I seem to have misunderstood. |
| 17:56.12 | abrotman | mjk69: you got a problem with that? |
| 17:56.16 | abrotman | !lesbian |
| 17:56.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lesbian is probably a variation of debian http://www.lesbian.mine.nu, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian/ |
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| 17:56.19 | jim | sven: unfortunately 2.10 is not in debian-3.1, and building it would take a very long time (given that you'd also have to rebuild all the clients too) |
| 17:56.24 | Sepho | how can I add irssi to run automatically when system start??? |
| 17:56.25 | wers | grendal_prime ..x11vnc 1:1 ? |
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| 17:56.29 | tarzeau | !forget lesbian |
| 17:56.29 | dpkg | tarzeau: i forgot lesbian |
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| 17:56.43 | mjk69 | abrotman: not at all, just wondering why you're using a dist with such a name =) |
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| 17:56.54 | abrotman | mjk69: see the url .. it's a joke |
| 17:57.04 | grendal_prime | but when i log into that server i get an x session that has one terminal windo open...i can run , excute apps from the terminal window..but thats it...its like there is no windowmanager running..kde is installed on the system but it does not start kde |
| 17:57.04 | tarzeau | Sepho: run it in cron using @reboot in a screen -dmS irssi irssi ? |
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| 17:57.14 | manbox | hi guys, i got some grub issues.. this image tells the story.. http://www.student.lu.se/~mat02mni/misc/gruberr.jpeg |
| 17:57.18 | jim | sven: in order to ensure maximum stability, debian is released frozen. |
| 17:57.18 | manbox | how do i fix it? |
| 17:57.23 | tarzeau | !lesbian is probably a variation of debian http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ |
| 17:57.23 | chedabob | hi,how come i keep getting a sound permission error? its really annoying. i got it working before by chmod +777 a few devices but on a reboot its not working. any ideas? |
| 17:57.23 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
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| 17:57.37 | jim | sven: this means that once released, versions do not get upgraded |
| 17:57.53 | mjk69 | abrotman: aaaaaw |
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| 17:58.03 | manbox | what should i do?? |
| 17:58.04 | quittt | man |
| 17:58.06 | quittt | I have a strange problem with display |
| 17:58.08 | quittt | it is strange hehe |
| 17:58.20 | manbox | how do i reinstall grub and all the setting with a full backup? |
| 17:58.28 | mere | lesbian gnu/linux... |
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| 17:58.32 | mere | now i am traumatized. |
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| 17:58.37 | manbox | mere, ha ha! |
| 17:58.41 | Danar | i have an mp3 player connected via usb, but no /dev/sd* |
| 17:58.47 | quittt | what may be this display -geometry 1024x768+0+0 -window root /home/pedro/.fluxbox/backgrounds/BeyondTheGraceOfGod1-0.jpg |
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| 17:58.47 | quittt | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08050a78 *** |
| 17:58.47 | quittt | Abortado |
| 17:58.52 | chedabob | lesbian, the one with pornget instead of appget? |
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| 17:58.55 | Danar | shouldn't there be a /dev/sda1 or something? |
| 17:59.01 | Loevborg | Danar, sd_mod |
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| 17:59.07 | jim | sven: having said all this, there are two avenues that you might pursue: one I mentioned is trying to rebuilding everything, but that takes disk resources, time and knowledge... |
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| 17:59.17 | sven | cool thing, maximum stability leaded to error messages right at te first start of gnome. some panel-applets do not work properly at startup |
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| 17:59.26 | nkuttler | manbox: i don't see an error on the screenshot, what are you talking about? |
| 17:59.27 | jim | the other avenue is to seek out a backport of 2.10 |
| 17:59.27 | phar0z | danar: do this: apt-get install usbmount |
| 17:59.28 | Danar | i had a different player connected and there was a /dev/sda1 |
| 17:59.31 | marty__ | how do i reassign access privelages to an entire directory? |
| 17:59.41 | grendal_prime | ya that comes up with nothing as well wers |
| 17:59.41 | sven | jim, building it on a 233mhz laptop isnt fun |
| 17:59.42 | chedabob | chmod it |
| 17:59.43 | chedabob | i think |
| 17:59.46 | quittt | what is the problem? |
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| 17:59.49 | crispynix | marty: chmod -R |
| 17:59.50 | nkuttler | manbox: with --recursive? |
| 17:59.55 | manbox | all OS' are default and that makes grub boot with "safe/recovery mode" |
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| 17:59.56 | marty__ | thanks |
| 18:00.03 | jim | sven: yes, like I say, it takes resources to build |
| 18:00.04 | Danar | phar0z, i have it |
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| 18:00.13 | jim | so why are you getting an error? |
| 18:00.19 | chedabob | can anyone help me with my sound problem? |
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| 18:00.21 | sether | sven: maybe using Gnome on a 233MHz laptop isn't a good idea |
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| 18:00.27 | Estes2 | I have two rsync shares that have the same config server wise when i execute the first one, everything's allright but the second one gives me this: Any idea ? ----> client: nothing to do: perhaps you need to specify some filenames or the --recursive option? |
| 18:00.30 | manbox | nkuttler, the fault is that all OS's are default |
| 18:00.33 | jim | so far you haven't said much :) |
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| 18:00.45 | sven | it asks if it should restart the tasklist-applet and two others |
| 18:00.50 | chedabob | jim who you asking? |
| 18:00.51 | Danar | the player says usb connected, but debian doesn't seem to see it |
| 18:00.54 | nkuttler | manbox: vi /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 18:00.55 | tarzeau | sether: of course he builds it on the 233mhz to run it on the 33 mhz |
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| 18:01.14 | shai_ | how do i add another user to a group called 'whatever' ??? |
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| 18:01.20 | manbox | thanks nkuttler!! exaclty what I was looking for! |
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| 18:01.36 | tarzeau | shai_: adduser user whatever |
| 18:01.39 | wq | helllo everyone |
| 18:01.40 | tarzeau | shai_: check the /etc/group file |
| 18:01.44 | chedabob | hello |
| 18:01.45 | phar0z | hi |
| 18:01.48 | nkuttler | manbox: /usr/share/doc/grub would probably have told you where to look |
| 18:01.49 | shai_ | tarzeau, i don't have access to /etc/group |
| 18:01.55 | simy | does anybody know where xmail keeps email? |
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| 18:01.56 | Estes2 | shai_, adduser usename whatever |
| 18:01.58 | abrotman | shai_: then .. you can't |
| 18:01.59 | Danar | anyone know why debian wouldn't see a usb device? |
| 18:02.01 | abrotman | shai_: you're not root ? |
| 18:02.02 | tarzeau | shai_: that's obvious |
| 18:02.09 | Danar | with usbmount installed |
| 18:02.10 | shai_ | abrotman, no |
| 18:02.10 | tarzeau | shai_: but you can do chmod on your files |
| 18:02.19 | tarzeau | shai_: really check the intro in the /topic faq |
| 18:02.21 | abrotman | shai_: then .. you *can't* do that .. only root can |
| 18:02.34 | tarzeau | shai_: someone really explained it very well there |
| 18:02.40 | shai_ | abrotman, can't i add a person to a group if i'm not root? |
| 18:02.45 | abrotman | how? |
| 18:02.48 | Estes2 | hi abrotman |
| 18:02.50 | Estes2 | :) |
| 18:02.51 | tarzeau | shai_: of course not |
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| 18:02.54 | abrotman | how the fuck would you like to edit a file only changable by root ? |
| 18:03.01 | abrotman | especially when you're NOT root |
| 18:03.06 | abrotman | Estes2: afternoon |
| 18:03.06 | grendal_prime | konquror works...its like kicker and whatnot is just not running |
| 18:03.07 | chedabob | LOL |
| 18:03.07 | grendal_prime | werid |
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| 18:03.29 | brullo | shai_, use sudo! -- apt-cache show sudo |
| 18:03.42 | manbox | nkuttler, Thanks, i think i have solved it.. :) |
| 18:03.45 | abrotman | brullo: if he has sudo .. but he doesn't have root to install sudo .. or change the config |
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| 18:03.53 | manbox | i dont need gui now.. |
| 18:03.57 | Danar | usbviewer sees it, but i can't mount it |
| 18:04.02 | brullo | abrotman, ok |
| 18:04.05 | chedabob | does anybody else get an error stating that they dont have permission, whenever a sound is played |
| 18:04.05 | EdgEy | blah |
| 18:04.09 | simy | where is email kept on an email server? in /var? |
| 18:04.15 | abrotman | chedabob: are you in the audio group ? |
| 18:04.17 | shai_ | abrotman, okay i'll see what the sysadmin says |
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| 18:04.20 | abrotman | simy: depneds on the config |
| 18:04.21 | chedabob | erm... |
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| 18:04.30 | darkness | Just for info.If my bootloader goes tits up like before. Is it possible to use a live cd and mount the mbr hba1 then chroot to /hba1 ? |
| 18:04.34 | abrotman | !tell chedabob about audio |
| 18:04.35 | stew | simy: /var/spool/mail or in the users home directory |
| 18:04.36 | sudonim | Is debian IA64 as stable as the I386 version? |
| 18:04.45 | EdgEy | when trying to mount a fat partition, i get this - FAT: codepage cp437 not found |
| 18:04.45 | marty__ | when i use chmod, i'm trying to change a folder to belong to user "marty", but i can't find in the documentation how to specify the user that will recieve the access privelages |
| 18:04.50 | tarzeau | sudonim: why should it not be? |
| 18:04.51 | EdgEy | how can i fix it? |
| 18:04.54 | Estes2 | I have two rsync shares that have the same config server wise when i execute the first one, everything's allright but the second one gives me this: Any idea ? ----> client: nothing to do: perhaps you need to specify some filenames or the --recursive option? |
| 18:05.00 | tarzeau | EdgEy: your own kernel? |
| 18:05.06 | simy | stew : sence you suggested i apt-get xmail, i restarted, and i have a hd for the mail, jsut dont know where to mount it.... |
| 18:05.10 | PrideF | Knowing that there are no stupid questions, just stupid people that ask questions.... How do i tell my sid box that the hwclock is set to UTC? |
| 18:05.20 | sudonim | tarzeau: RHEL3 sucks on IA64 and has a lot of things broken in |
| 18:05.20 | EdgEy | tarzeau, yeah, hoping i don't have to fully recompile. |
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| 18:05.23 | abrotman | PrideF: /etc/default/rcS |
| 18:05.25 | tarzeau | sudonim: this is not #RHEL3 here |
| 18:05.25 | Danar | can someone help me mount my usb player? |
| 18:05.26 | Anthro | sudonim: If you are planning on using an x86-64 chip (e.g. Opteron), IA64 is *not* the right choice. |
| 18:05.30 | PrideF | Thanks, abrotman |
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| 18:05.36 | simy | stew : so would you suggest /var/spool/mail? |
| 18:05.47 | tarzeau | EdgEy: hehe :) |
| 18:05.53 | Danar | i have no /dev/sd* for some reason, though usbviewer sees it |
| 18:05.54 | chedabob | rt ill try that sound thing |
| 18:05.56 | abrotman | PrideF: tzconfig might be good for you .. or dpkg-reconfigure base-config |
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| 18:06.05 | chedabob | do i have to be in a specific group for everything? |
| 18:06.15 | Danar | am i doing something wrong? |
| 18:06.16 | EdgEy | just got a shiny new psp and i've been sat for about 2 hours unable to transfer to it :( |
| 18:06.22 | PrideF | thanks |
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| 18:06.33 | chedabob | i got it working before by chmod +777 a few things in /dev but on reboot doesnt work |
| 18:06.35 | chedabob | :( |
| 18:06.48 | abrotman | chedabob: not for everything .. but some stuff .. yes |
| 18:06.51 | sudonim | Anthro: I have an Intel 64 bit processor - what is the right choice? |
| 18:06.57 | EdgEy | ia |
| 18:06.59 | stew | simy: i dunno depends on where you are going to store users mail. i dont know anything about xmail. you need to figure out where it is planning on storing users mail |
| 18:07.01 | abrotman | chedabob: audio/ppp .. a few others |
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| 18:07.15 | guevolt | how i make a symlink for a ftp user access a folder? |
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| 18:07.28 | chedabob | ok another thing...is there a linux equivalent to fdisk because i cant seem to mount one of my partitions. |
| 18:07.37 | simy | stew: yeah so far my googling isnt helping.... thanks tho |
| 18:07.37 | nkuttler | chedabob: 777 on dsp is a bad idea |
| 18:07.39 | abrotman | fdisk is in linux |
| 18:07.44 | chedabob | aha |
| 18:07.45 | marty__ | when i use chmod, i'm trying to change a folder to belong to user "marty", but i can't find in the documentation how to specify the user that will recieve the access privelages |
| 18:07.46 | guevolt | i tried ln -s but don't worked. i tried too ln (hard link) and don't work too. |
| 18:07.47 | abrotman | chedabob: fdisk -l /dev/hda or whatever |
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| 18:07.58 | abrotman | marty__: man chown |
| 18:08.00 | chedabob | if i just type fdisk will it show all partitions? |
| 18:08.03 | marty__ | k |
| 18:08.04 | stew | simy: have you looked at /usr/share/doc/xmail? |
| 18:08.05 | abrotman | chedabob: fdisk -l /dev/hda or whatever |
| 18:08.10 | marty__ | thanks abrotman |
| 18:08.13 | sven | sether, what would you suggest for such a small machine? at least gnome doesn run that bad |
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| 18:08.29 | abrotman | sven: blackbox |
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| 18:08.47 | tarzeau | sven: amiwm? wmaker? fvwm? anything but kde/gnome |
| 18:08.49 | simy | stew: i reinstalled debian, i was too afaid i might mess somthing up or make it difficult, because i was stuck to begin with, lol so i figured ild apt-get it this time... |
| 18:09.07 | chedabob | LOL, third question (should be able to get some stuff done myself after this): i have a linksys wusb54g v4. i downloaded some stuff from aptitude that contained the word linksys but still cant use it. any ideas? |
| 18:09.24 | stew | simy: out of curiosity, why did you choose xmail? |
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| 18:09.46 | simy | stew: it came up when i googled email server, or somthing like that |
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| 18:09.55 | simy | stew: its sopposed to be easy, lol |
| 18:09.59 | EdgEy | tarzeau, any idea? :/ |
| 18:10.03 | sven | iam so used to nautilus, hard to use something like wmaker |
| 18:10.11 | chedabob | !tell chedabob wireless |
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| 18:10.12 | tarzeau | EdgEy: well yeah, you forgot building the modules nls stuff |
| 18:10.31 | EdgEy | i know that :/ |
| 18:10.38 | tarzeau | EdgEy: fix it then |
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| 18:14.59 | *** topic/#debian is GETTING DEBIAN? /msg dpkg install debian | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | /msg dpkg sarge firefox | X.org in sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | Java -> /msg dpkg java | /msg dpkg kde3.4 | NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 18:14.59 | stew | wesley: "got lock"? |
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| 18:15.10 | wesley | locked |
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| 18:15.19 | ThePiratemaster | apache, vsftp, exim4, postgreSQL, that stuff |
| 18:15.26 | wers | kill it! |
| 18:15.31 | wesley | i can access my computer anymore |
| 18:15.36 | jim | xlockscreen or somethign? it's asking for a password? |
| 18:15.37 | ThePiratemaster | to make a decent hosting service |
| 18:15.42 | wers | ctrl+alt+ backspace |
| 18:15.45 | ThePiratemaster | for another project |
| 18:15.45 | wesley | hoi did it |
| 18:15.46 | jim | you can? oh, ok so no problem? |
| 18:15.49 | wesley | everything locked |
| 18:15.56 | wesley | i rebooted |
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| 18:16.02 | wesley | but nothing.. |
| 18:16.22 | patricius | how to turn off text colouring in Eterm? I want a simple, black text. |
| 18:16.25 | stew | wesley: what had you changed? |
| 18:16.27 | ThePiratemaster | guess not, laters |
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| 18:16.39 | jim | ThePiratemaster: there are hosting services that let you run a complete virtual server... they charge like 30-40/month |
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| 18:16.41 | wers | patricius eterm -bg black -fg white |
| 18:16.46 | wesley | the file the xfreeserver |
| 18:16.53 | wesley | to include the touchpad |
| 18:16.59 | EdgEy | tarzeau, this may be simpler |
| 18:17.00 | ThePiratemaster | jim, its not called a project caz i have such little tiem :P |
| 18:17.07 | ThePiratemaster | i need to do it myself |
| 18:17.08 | EdgEy | if i have a .o compiled, how can i get modprobe to "find" it |
| 18:17.10 | stew | wesley: you start a dm on boot? can you ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a shell? |
| 18:17.10 | wers | patricius sorry missread. |
| 18:17.13 | stew | err a console |
| 18:17.40 | stew | wesley: what version of debian are you running? which xserver? xfree or xorg? |
| 18:17.48 | EdgEy | shit nvm, "invalid mod format" |
| 18:17.55 | wesley | the the realy locked |
| 18:18.04 | wesley | xfree |
| 18:18.09 | patricius | wers: thx |
| 18:18.12 | yang | What is the normal temperature for processors CPU ? |
| 18:18.20 | wesley | now i cant access the console, |
| 18:18.21 | ThePiratemaster | around 50C |
| 18:18.24 | jim | ThePiratemaster: the only web toolkit I have any experience with is acs / openacs... but having said that, I'm not sure yet what you want to do |
| 18:18.24 | wesley | i cant access nothing |
| 18:18.26 | tarzeau | yang: which manufacturer? |
| 18:18.29 | wesley | i need the reedit |
| 18:18.33 | yang | amd sempron 2300 |
| 18:18.34 | nvz | yang: depends entirely on the processor |
| 18:18.35 | wesley | this file how cna i access the pc now? |
| 18:18.44 | ThePiratemaster | yang, sempron around 50 or 60 |
| 18:18.55 | wers | wesley boot a rescukernel and reconfigure the shit., |
| 18:18.56 | yang | I have set FSB to 333 mhz, but processor gets too hot and computer shuts down |
| 18:19.19 | ThePiratemaster | then get a better cooler or clock it back |
| 18:19.39 | wesley | OK |
| 18:19.57 | wers | wesley at bootprompt type rescue root=/dev/hd* |
| 18:20.02 | yang | emmm, which package monitors CPU temperature in linux? |
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| 18:20.24 | sandman | Package? I know of a module that does it :) thermal.o |
| 18:20.39 | sandman | How do I "reget" a file with sftp?! |
| 18:20.48 | caphuso | yang: lm-sensors |
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| 18:21.04 | sandman | I've had to redo a download from the beginning several times, and it's very annoying. I do not remember at all having "reget" under sftp unavailable under other distros |
| 18:21.47 | jim | "Hey Doc, something's wrong with my knees!" "What seems to be the problem?" "They hurt!" "What are you doing that involves your knees?" "I try to run at 25 mph, and when I get past 10 mph, I fall on my knees a lot!" "OK, so I have a suggestion..." "What?" "Stop doing that!" |
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| 18:22.07 | t | i am looking for a tool to clone my actual packagelist to a new debian machine |
| 18:22.28 | jim | sandman: it's not in the man page? |
| 18:22.30 | stew | wesley: if you use grub, you should be able to boot with one of the "recovery mode" kernel options |
| 18:22.46 | wesley | yep |
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| 18:22.54 | wers | t i think u can het a list filoutput with dselect.. but not sure |
| 18:22.54 | wesley | i did it.. now i'm rebooteing the system again |
| 18:23.14 | caphuso | t: /msg dpkg debian clone |
| 18:23.15 | wers | wesley.. yay! |
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| 18:23.32 | jim | t: dpkg --help (you're looking for --get-selections and --set-selections) |
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| 18:23.44 | marty__ | i accidentally removed my home directory and am not being able to find a way to make a new one |
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| 18:24.03 | wesley | yep |
| 18:24.12 | wers | marty recreate the user maby? |
| 18:24.14 | caphuso | marty__: mkdir, chmod, chown, chgrp |
| 18:24.15 | wesley | the seetings has been restoredes |
| 18:24.16 | stew | wesley: if the xserver hangs whenever you load the synaptics driver, you should report a bug against xfree86-driver-synaptics. /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 18:24.18 | marty__ | ok |
| 18:24.20 | marty__ | thanks |
| 18:24.20 | Loevborg | martin0, cp /etc/skel there |
| 18:24.23 | marty__ | i'll try that |
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| 18:24.32 | Loevborg | marty__, cp /etc/skel there |
| 18:24.41 | rjalex | anyone please tell me how to list packages that have been EXPLICITELY installed with aptitude (do not care about those installed as dependencies - need something like ye olde keepers of debfoster). THANK YOU |
| 18:24.48 | beardy | marty__: And start doing backups, what if you had importatnt things there? |
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| 18:25.06 | jim | marty__: as root, make the dir, and change the ownership to your user/group... then log in as that user and start copying stuff in there |
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| 18:25.16 | rjalex | caphuso: good evening from Rome ! |
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| 18:25.19 | wesley | how?? |
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| 18:25.59 | foo | How can I adjust the key repeat rate in fluxbox or on my debian system? |
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| 18:26.20 | jim | rjalex: if you kept track of those packages, then you'd have that list... debian does not keep track of that, just what is installed and what is not |
| 18:26.22 | sandman | No, it's not in hte manpage |
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| 18:26.39 | stew | jim: aptitude does keep track |
| 18:26.50 | jim | sandman: then quite possibly sftp doesn't have the capability |
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| 18:26.57 | rjalex | jim: aptitude does keep track |
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| 18:27.00 | random_user324 | i need help.. anyone running openvpn with ethernet bridge? |
| 18:27.00 | jim | stew: how so? |
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| 18:27.16 | jim | and what does it keep track of? |
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| 18:27.31 | rjalex | jim: when you uninstall a package it also uninstalls dependencies (if not needed by other packages) |
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| 18:27.40 | stew | jim: it marks packages which were installed to satisfy dependencies as auto, and will remove them if nothing is installed that depends on them. man aptitude and look at the markauto and unmarkauto |
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| 18:28.09 | jim | oic, so it keeps unrelated state info |
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| 18:28.22 | rjalex | stew: and do you know a method to obtain a clean list of "non-auto" packages ? |
| 18:28.23 | jim | it keeps an extra database... |
| 18:28.25 | stew | jim: i'm not sure what you mean by unrelated |
| 18:28.27 | stew | rjalex: no |
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| 18:28.39 | zeasier | so how does one run the post install scripts again? |
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| 18:28.52 | rjalex | stew: :( :( |
| 18:28.55 | jim | it keeps data that other package tools don't |
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| 18:29.27 | billybong | i'm haveing some problems with apt-get i'll paste the problems with pastebin.com if somebody could help i would appreciate it greatly |
| 18:29.28 | rjalex | stew: I then would have been better off with ye ole debfoster and apt-get !!! :( |
| 18:29.32 | billybong | http://pastebin.com/384160 |
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| 18:29.46 | stew | rjalex: debfoster should still work ask expected |
| 18:30.04 | stew | rjalex: or add this feature yourself and submit a patch! |
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| 18:30.30 | rjalex | stew: but as a first run I would need to mark all "installed by me" .. a pain :( |
| 18:30.32 | row2 | billybong: you need to redo your /etc/apt/sources.list thoses are 404s from the mirrors |
| 18:30.59 | rjalex | stew: me a patch ? I am absolutely incapable of coding anything more complex than my phone number :) |
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| 18:31.05 | nvz | billybong: your sources list is badly fucked |
| 18:31.11 | stew | rjalex: file a wishlist bug then |
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| 18:31.29 | rjalex | stew: interesting :) |
| 18:31.38 | stew | rjalex: i must admit i've never used debfoster. maybe deborphan will do what you are looking for |
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| 18:31.53 | System- | hey, whats the best speed to write an iso? |
| 18:31.53 | nvz | billybong: for one there is no non-us, I dont think there are any sections on s.d.o and you've got a horribly mixed sources list |
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| 18:32.01 | wers | billybong try apt-config and find another mirror maby. |
| 18:32.04 | tarzeau | System-: as fast as your harddisk? |
| 18:32.06 | row2 | billybong: no need for non-us if >= testing |
| 18:32.12 | billybong | okay thanks guys |
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| 18:32.21 | billybong | i appreciate it |
| 18:32.23 | mere | best speed to write an iso..? |
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| 18:32.33 | stew | billybong: you are mixing woody / sarge / etch. and none of those mix well with any of the others |
| 18:32.33 | nvz | wers: its apt-setup and he's mixing Stable, Testing, Unstable, Experimental, and other things that dont even exist |
| 18:32.34 | tarzeau | mere: you write an iso image, with mkisofs |
| 18:32.40 | row2 | billybong: its the non-us for unstable and testing remove those and think thats it |
| 18:32.44 | mere | you mean best speed to BURN an iso to a CD? |
| 18:32.46 | tarzeau | mere: but i think he wants to burn the iso using a cd-r device |
| 18:32.51 | billybong | row2 : where is the config file usually found? |
| 18:32.53 | billybong | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.53 | row2 | non-us has been removed |
| 18:33.02 | row2 | ./etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:33.10 | abrotman | not ./ |
| 18:33.15 | abrotman | just /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 18:33.23 | wers | nvz i stand corrected.. again. |
| 18:33.23 | billybong | APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 18:33.25 | billybong | APT::Cache-Limit 10000000; |
| 18:33.26 | billybong | Apt::Get::Purge; |
| 18:33.27 | rjalex | where does Firefox gets the fonts it uses under my KDE desktop ? they are too small and horrible :( |
| 18:33.27 | nvz | abrotman: he's too stupid to put something that starts with a / in his client |
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| 18:33.28 | billybong | thats /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 18:33.32 | billybong | thats all that is there |
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| 18:33.40 | kikaha07 | mere: use k3b and a good burner ;) |
| 18:33.49 | mere | tarzeau, depending on what the iso is for, there is some speeds to burn it. the only thing that comes to my mind is to burn dreamcast game images, though. it will only work with 8x |
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| 18:34.12 | mere | yay XD people here is very responsive :D |
| 18:34.19 | tarzeau | rjalex: kde has no effect on firefox fonts |
| 18:34.30 | tarzeau | rjalex: the fonts in firefox gui or the rendering? |
| 18:34.39 | rjalex | tarzeau: the rendering |
| 18:34.39 | mere | <System-> hey, whats the best speed to write an iso? <- was replying to this though :3 |
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| 18:34.49 | tarzeau | rjalex: of what webpage? can you make a screenshot? |
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| 18:35.06 | billybong | nvz |
| 18:35.11 | billybong | this is a friends box |
| 18:35.14 | glen | what's the most foolproof way to install a .deb-file? |
| 18:35.16 | billybong | a fresh install of knoppix |
| 18:35.21 | billybong | i agree knoppix is gay |
| 18:35.21 | tarzeau | glen: dpkg -i the.deb |
| 18:35.22 | useruser | glen: dpkg -i |
| 18:35.29 | billybong | to be honest i'm trying to get him to install freebsd a real OS |
| 18:35.31 | tarzeau | glen: but it's way better with apt-get install |
| 18:35.33 | mere | i like knoppix... |
| 18:35.34 | stew | billybong: and off topic, go to #knoppix |
| 18:35.35 | rjalex | tarzeau: for example www.repubblica.it (dunno how to snapshot a window under KDE) |
| 18:35.38 | wers | billybong argh! |
| 18:35.38 | tarzeau | glen: as in you don't get .deb files |
| 18:35.42 | billybong | stew you ever been there? |
| 18:35.43 | tarzeau | but apt-get does it all for you |
| 18:35.43 | stew | !tell billybong about gay |
| 18:35.43 | beardy | billybong: #knoppix for you and your friend then. |
| 18:35.46 | stew | billybong: yes |
| 18:35.50 | Ronin | billybong: freebsd a real os? heh ya your going to get all kinds of help now |
| 18:35.54 | tarzeau | rjalex: in a terminal , say scrot peng.png |
| 18:35.57 | billybong | #knoppix is full of cluebies |
| 18:36.05 | glen | tarzeau: I'll try |
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| 18:36.13 | nvz | billybong: you'd fit in |
| 18:36.17 | chedabob | in debian is there a network settings screen? |
| 18:36.23 | lemur | chedabob: stfu |
| 18:36.28 | abrotman | billybong: it doesn't matter .. you chose Knoppix .. use #knoppix |
| 18:36.30 | nkuttler | chedabob: man interfaces |
| 18:36.30 | Ronin | nvz: what i was thinking |
| 18:36.32 | wesley | stew, do you have another advice about the touchpad? |
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| 18:36.36 | nvz | Ronin: :) |
| 18:36.38 | beardy | lemur: ? |
| 18:36.40 | abrotman | lemur: what was that for ? |
| 18:36.43 | madclicker | i have a 23" lcd with DVI connection. Everytime the monitor goes in standby mode the xserver-xorg keeps connecting and disconnecting. can someone help a brother? |
| 18:36.51 | lemur | sorry...I didn't realize that this was #debian :-/ |
| 18:36.53 | stew | wesley: if you can't load that synaptics driver, i don't know of a way to use its features |
| 18:37.02 | abrotman | lemur: what did you think it was ? |
| 18:37.06 | nkuttler | lemur: so it's ok to be rude on other channels? |
| 18:37.09 | chedabob | lol |
| 18:37.13 | lemur | in some cases, yes |
| 18:37.15 | wers | chedabob no. not realy but you could install a tool if u dont like to type. |
| 18:37.22 | beardy | lemur: Is that you default behavior when someone asks a reasonable question? If yes, fuck off. |
| 18:37.25 | nvz | oh well I am going to go weigh in today and find something to eat |
| 18:37.29 | abrotman | nkuttler: well .. i wouldn't have objected .. but it was pretty uncalled for :) |
| 18:37.40 | abrotman | nvz: take a crap first! |
| 18:37.49 | lemur | how rude |
| 18:37.54 | abrotman | yeah .. |
| 18:37.58 | billybong | nvz goodbye :) |
| 18:37.59 | cahoot | nkuttler: seriously surprised by rudeness in #debian? |
| 18:38.02 | billybong | hope you liked talking shit mofo |
| 18:38.09 | nvz | abrotman: I am trying to _gain_ weight not loose it |
| 18:38.16 | abrotman | nvz: oh .. then eat PB all day |
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| 18:38.18 | chedabob | wers im trying to get my wlan adaptor working but the only guides for it use mandrake and fedora and the fedora one makes more sense but it goes to the network screen which i dont know if there is one in debian |
| 18:38.21 | stew | billybong: stop, move on |
| 18:38.26 | Ronin | nvz: mcdonalds then ;) |
| 18:38.28 | billybong | you'll see |
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| 18:38.32 | mere | people here is actually very nice... |
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| 18:38.36 | abrotman | we'll see .. what? |
| 18:38.41 | lemur | I haven't had mcdonald's in forever |
| 18:38.43 | wers | chedabob dowa it show up when u type iwconfig? |
| 18:38.47 | nvz | abrotman: I was only like 130lbs or so when I got back. I am trying to get to about 185lbs steady to start working out and weight training again. |
| 18:38.48 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:38.48 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:38.49 | wers | does even |
| 18:38.50 | foo | What could I use to get the battery time remaining / usage on battery stats or whatever for my dell latitude c610 laptop? |
| 18:38.56 | abrotman | nvz: need mroe beer! |
| 18:38.59 | jim | wut |
| 18:39.04 | wers | abrotman word! |
| 18:39.06 | Ronin | abrotman: well that goes without saying |
| 18:39.09 | chedabob | wers dunno |
| 18:39.09 | nvz | I've been between 177lbs and 180.5lbs lately |
| 18:39.18 | stew | foo: install acpid and acpi; then run acpi |
| 18:39.20 | jim | ut's not U, ut's YUE! |
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| 18:39.24 | jim | shoosh! |
| 18:39.29 | chedabob | lol |
| 18:39.35 | foo | stew: 10-4, thanks |
| 18:39.47 | wers | chedabob well.. if u got driver installed you should ust edit /etc/network/interfaces the way you want it. |
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| 18:39.59 | mere | yue is moon in chinese </random></annoying> |
| 18:40.08 | stew | foo: you may need to "modprobe battery" before it works |
| 18:40.15 | chedabob | hm...the guide ive seen that goes that route does some command then vi then some other command |
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| 18:40.20 | chedabob | it confused me a little |
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| 18:40.29 | foo | laptop:/home/foo# acpi |
| 18:40.29 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.30 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.37 | arachne | hi |
| 18:40.40 | foo | stew: ^^ Nice. Hmm, weird... I wonder why battery 2 says that |
| 18:40.41 | wers | chedabob u have any network running on it now? |
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| 18:41.06 | chedabob | no |
| 18:41.08 | chedabob | im on another pc |
| 18:41.10 | chedabob | im gathering my information then im gonna go get it running |
| 18:41.16 | arachne | anyone to confirm that security.debian.org maintains security updates for amd64 ? any link ? |
| 18:41.19 | stew | foo: sometimes one of my two batteries seems to get into a wierd state, removing it for a few seconds and reinserting it sometimes helps |
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| 18:42.29 | foo | stew: mabe it is because I am not using that battery yet or something. Thanks :) |
| 18:42.32 | nkuttler | arachne: www.google.com |
| 18:42.44 | chedabob | meh |
| 18:42.47 | wers | chedabob chedabob . start by finding out if u have a driver installed. check dmesg. |
| 18:42.47 | nvz | well I am only 176.0 now. |
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| 18:42.56 | lemur | nkuttler: that's akin to my "stfu" response |
| 18:43.01 | stew | foo: Battery 1: charged, 100% <- that's all mine says for one that |
| 18:43.04 | chedabob | dont think i have a driver installed |
| 18:43.05 | nkuttler | lemur: no, that's a stfw |
| 18:43.06 | stew | 's not being used |
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| 18:43.16 | nkuttler | lemur: and now stfu |
| 18:43.21 | kaeso | arachne: http://www.us.debian.org/News/2005/20050811 |
| 18:43.22 | chedabob | hehe |
| 18:43.24 | arachne | nkuttler: didnt find anything, as on http://www.debian.org/security/faq |
| 18:43.24 | lemur | how rude |
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| 18:43.45 | row2 | is there a way to test a new kernel without rebooting or setting up some kinda fall back, I have had issues mounting root fs on some systems. |
| 18:43.48 | yang | I dont get any output, when I type sensors - no sensors found :/ |
| 18:43.50 | nkuttler | arachne: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html |
| 18:43.58 | lemur | row2: you could use a virtual machine, otherwise no |
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| 18:44.02 | arachne | thx ! |
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| 18:44.28 | row2 | how do people normally test kernels on servers located else where then? |
| 18:44.47 | row2 | ie if you need to compile a patched kernel for example |
| 18:44.50 | nkuttler | arachne: surprisingly search i just ran had it as first result |
| 18:45.08 | arachne | nkuttler: what did you type ? I tried "security debian 64 bits" |
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| 18:45.13 | lemur | row2: I used to recompile my FreeBSD kernels remotely...you just have to hope nothing goes wrong. Then there are some servers that have magic hardware virtualization and whatnot |
| 18:45.23 | jim | row2: normally they do not test kernels on production servers... they use kernels they have already tested |
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| 18:45.39 | chedabob | hm..life would be soo much easier if i had my wireless connection working on my debian box |
| 18:45.50 | nkuttler | arachne: um, how about debian amd64 security |
| 18:45.50 | tarzeau | !seen liberty |
| 18:45.50 | dpkg | liberty <n=liberty@o1-dialup-66-81-63-239.rev.o1.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 5h 6m 44s ago, saying: 'okay . I do not want to be P-banned from #debian so I will go to sleep'. |
| 18:45.51 | System- | sorry mere was away for a second, yes what is the best speed to burn an iso? |
| 18:45.51 | stew | row2: /msg dpkg can't mount root |
| 18:45.57 | mere | lol |
| 18:46.01 | tarzeau | haha |
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| 18:46.02 | mere | *hehehe |
| 18:46.11 | jim | anyone who -does- is askin for trouble, scaled by the degree of missioncriticalness of the server and by number of users |
| 18:46.11 | mere | System-, depends on what iso you want to burn |
| 18:46.13 | chedabob | system 8x |
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| 18:46.20 | abrotman | System-: 33.3 speed |
| 18:46.20 | arachne | nkuttler: it wirks better :) |
| 18:46.20 | madclicker | when will akgregator will be included in etch? |
| 18:46.21 | chedabob | 16x is fastest i use |
| 18:46.22 | hans0lo | Is there a way I can tell how much video memory I have? (cat something in /proc perhaps?) |
| 18:46.22 | System- | trying to burn debian cd1 |
| 18:46.24 | arachne | works |
| 18:46.28 | chedabob | but 8 is prolly best |
| 18:46.30 | chedabob | 4x for vcd |
| 18:46.36 | chedabob | 8x for kvcd |
| 18:46.38 | mere | safiest is 8x for me. at least for audio CDs and games |
| 18:46.42 | chedabob | 16x for everything else |
| 18:46.46 | abrotman | System-: honestly .. 8 is probably about it |
| 18:46.49 | tarzeau | hans0lo: maybe with lshw |
| 18:46.51 | abrotman | 16 if you're daring |
| 18:46.55 | System- | ok thanks guys |
| 18:47.00 | ikariwarrior | System- , well the speed depends on hardware and media.. |
| 18:47.05 | mere | 48x if you're daring! |
| 18:47.06 | yang | is there any other program for CPU temperature beside lm-sensors? |
| 18:47.07 | abrotman | noone liked the 33.3 x |
| 18:47.12 | chedabob | wtf is the point in 52x when discs are hard to come by and u get masses of errors? |
| 18:47.12 | beardy | hans0lo: Perhaps in 'dmesg' |
| 18:47.18 | jim | hans0lo: did you buy your video card and put it in the computer? |
| 18:47.28 | abrotman | ikariwarrior: not really .. burners burning above like .. 16x use some crap technique that can cause problems with ISOs |
| 18:47.37 | valdyn_ | yang: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone |
| 18:47.38 | tarzeau | yang: i know programs to make the cpu temperature go up, and one to make it go down |
| 18:47.45 | mere | chedabob, perhaps the point is forcing CD-R-and-others manufactures produce medias that support 56x |
| 18:47.47 | chedabob | hans0lo: read the box? or on the video card itself? |
| 18:47.49 | mere | *52x |
| 18:47.49 | valdyn_ | yang: probably 'modprobe thermal' |
| 18:47.53 | madclicker | anyone akregator? |
| 18:47.54 | beardy | hans0lo: or lspci -vv, at least which model, and google from there. |
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| 18:48.04 | hans0lo | tarzeau: will install lshw and see |
| 18:48.06 | abrotman | mere: it's not the media |
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| 18:48.20 | hans0lo | jim: no, this is an old cirrus logic |
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| 18:48.38 | mere | abrotman, software errors too? |
| 18:48.38 | valdyn_ | yang: or are you just concerned about looks? |
| 18:48.39 | chedabob | wooo lets get a debate going like yesterdays (well was over here) text editor debate !!! |
| 18:48.49 | abrotman | mere: the technique used to obtain that speed |
| 18:48.51 | jim | hans0lomight be 8mb or lower |
| 18:48.55 | lemur | chedabob: w00t |
| 18:49.08 | mere | i know certain CD-Rs that just wont burn right if faster than 32x, even if they say they support 56x |
| 18:49.09 | yang | valdyn_: no i cant read sensors |
| 18:49.10 | jim | but that's a guess, you'd have to see what it is for sure |
| 18:49.17 | hans0lo | jim: I'm thinking it's lower. I can only do 1024x768 at 8-bit color |
| 18:49.18 | mere | abrotman, ooooh |
| 18:49.23 | valdyn_ | yang: alright, then try what i said |
| 18:49.26 | abrotman | mere: if you want .. i can try to google for it |
| 18:49.35 | jim | !tell chedabob -about stop a barbie war |
| 18:49.41 | beardy | chedabob: Are you stupid? |
| 18:49.42 | chedabob | i put a 16x cdr in my drive, burnt at 52x (accident) and the label flew off in my cd player so i had no reflective bit!!!LOL |
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| 18:49.53 | chedabob | beardy: why? |
| 18:50.02 | yang | valdyn_: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is a directory (empty) |
| 18:50.06 | mere | this is actually interesting |
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| 18:50.14 | beardy | chedabob: Why do you want to start a editor flamewar in here? |
| 18:50.23 | chedabob | hehe it was funny |
| 18:50.25 | jim | probably not stupid... but adventurous |
| 18:50.28 | chedabob | it wasnt a flamewar |
| 18:50.39 | valdyn_ | yang: then your mainboard's acpi isnt supported by your kernel or simply does not provide that acpi info |
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| 18:50.52 | dumezil-school | anyone know how to get fibre channel HBAs and storage enclosures to work? |
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| 18:51.09 | yang | valdyn_: i use default debian kernel |
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| 18:51.23 | HappyHobo | Hi folks |
| 18:51.26 | chedabob | hi |
| 18:51.35 | valdyn_ | yang: cant really help your further, it works on my thinkpad, it doesnt work on this box ( no matter what kernel ) |
| 18:51.42 | abrotman | mere: well .. i think if you google "Burn ISO Speed error" .. you'll see what i mean |
| 18:51.48 | HappyHobo | not looking for debian help I need mathematical help and linux folks tend to be brilliant with math myself excluded |
| 18:51.51 | valdyn_ | yang: you're probably just out of luck using acpi to grab your cpu temperature |
| 18:51.54 | mere | hm |
| 18:51.58 | mere | okay, abrotman |
| 18:52.09 | yang | valdyn_: in bios i can read temperature |
| 18:52.19 | abrotman | mere: but basically .. everyone says "choose the slowest speed possible" |
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| 18:52.31 | valdyn_ | yang: question is, why does lm-sensors not work for you |
| 18:52.45 | valdyn_ | yang: very new mainboard and a 2.6.8-x kernel? |
| 18:52.49 | ikariwarrior | yang, i installed superkaramba and all dselect suggested and it works for me. |
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| 18:53.02 | hans0lo | Doh! Cirrus Logic GD 5436 only has 1mb video ram. Probably not enough for 1024x768 @ 16-bit coloe, eh? |
| 18:53.07 | chedabob | hehe |
| 18:53.11 | HappyHobo | okay here's the problem I need an equation I can plug things into for gnumeric. I'm a candlemaker by trade. I have lbs of wax at 6% fragrance load that I need to raw wax too to get to a 4.5% fragrance load |
| 18:53.16 | mere | abrotman, perhaps not the slowest necessarily.. but something near it :) |
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| 18:53.19 | abrotman | hans0lo: 8x6 at .. 8bit i think |
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| 18:53.43 | yang | ikariwarrior: i dont find that package |
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| 18:54.03 | yang | valdyn_: yes, asrock motherboard and 2.6.8 |
| 18:54.26 | ikariwarrior | yang, maby only in testing. |
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| 18:56.15 | jaybuffet | i need help.. anyone running openvpn with ethernet bridge? |
| 18:56.25 | HappyHobo | thanks for your help |
| 18:56.34 | ircops | !anyone |
| 18:56.35 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 18:56.37 | HappyHobo | you folks you folks are are are hell I don't know |
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| 18:57.06 | abrotman | what the hell was that ? |
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| 18:57.47 | valdyn_ | yang: try a newer kernel, that will support newer sensors |
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| 18:57.59 | ircops | abrotman: a mix between an elephant and a rhinoceros called a hellifino |
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| 18:58.16 | abrotman | i've seen those .. they smell like idjits |
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| 18:58.47 | ikariwarrior | yang, do you have discover installed? |
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| 19:00.40 | samuel | anyone know of any software that will re-write an id3 tag of ogg and mp3 files according to how they are stored? ie - according to filename, folder, etc... ? |
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| 19:01.27 | stew | samuel: there are many, apt-cache search id3 |
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| 19:02.04 | mere | i only know one, which is command-line based, which is id3v2 |
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| 19:02.21 | samuel | stew, but write the tag from the filepath? |
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| 19:02.33 | stew | samuel: yes |
| 19:02.38 | stew | many |
| 19:02.45 | samuel | thx, im on it |
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| 19:03.31 | mere | anyone knows if there is anyhting like daemon tools, which could mount .ccd and .cdi images for linux? |
| 19:03.43 | valdyn_ | mere: yea, 'mount' |
| 19:03.47 | tarzeau | mere: there's mount and -o loop? |
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| 19:03.49 | mere | i know there are scripts to convert ccd and cdi to iso, but never really had luck with them.. |
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| 19:03.57 | tarzeau | mere: what says file *.ccd *.cdi ? |
| 19:04.09 | mere | ccd is CloneCD image |
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| 19:04.15 | mere | and cdi is DiscJuggler |
| 19:04.28 | tarzeau | samuel: maybe mp3info ? |
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| 19:04.30 | mere | they don't mount like a normal iso9660 iso, i guess... |
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| 19:04.46 | tarzeau | mere: then they probably just have some funky bytes at the start and end that you want to get rid of? |
| 19:04.55 | tarzeau | mere: shouldn't be too hard, got a hexeditor? |
| 19:04.55 | samuel | tarzeau, thx i think i found a nice one, cantus |
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| 19:05.05 | mere | subchannel data and more tracks, most of the time |
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| 19:05.14 | mere | o.o |
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| 19:05.40 | mere | i would also like to learn programming, whenever i have the chance :/ |
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| 19:05.53 | jaybuffet | when i run openvpn-bridge start from http://openvpn.net/wiki/Bridged_Mode_OpenVPN_Server_on_Debian_HOWTO, i get an error SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable |
| 19:05.56 | mere | well, yes, got an hex editor |
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| 19:06.36 | darky_ | Im trying to find out how to get a logitech quickcam to work has anyone the answer ? |
| 19:06.36 | valdyn_ | mere: have you had a look if cdrdao supporst that image format? |
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| 19:06.56 | ikariwarrior | darky.. ther is a packet |
| 19:07.00 | mere | valdyn, don't want to burn the image, just mount it |
| 19:07.09 | valdyn_ | mere: yes i know |
| 19:07.24 | mere | cdrdao mounts too?!?! |
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| 19:07.28 | row2 | does anyone know why horde3+imp4+courier does not display quota info on deb? |
| 19:07.37 | darky_ | ikariwarrior, I installed it with module-assistant, it doesnt works |
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| 19:09.08 | ikariwarrior | darky_ i dont have mine anylonger so i cant realy help you.. i installed qc-usb-source, qc-usb-utils and qcam and it worked., |
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| 19:09.36 | mith | umm, anyone have any suggestions for editing a 12G file, vim keeps acting like it's a non-existant file, yet I can head/tail it just fine |
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| 19:09.53 | mith | nvi doesn't like files over 2G |
| 19:09.58 | stew | mith: split / edit / cat it back together? |
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| 19:10.03 | mere | i wish people just quit using these images format when there's just no use for them... |
| 19:10.04 | sussudio_ | !mith mith |
| 19:10.17 | sussudio_ | :-| |
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| 19:10.37 | sussudio_ | !test |
| 19:10.37 | dpkg | Sorry, sussudio_, I didn't get your test. |
| 19:10.42 | sussudio_ | :-\ |
| 19:10.46 | Gathond | mith: the problem there probably being that most editors would load the whole whing, and 12 GB is probably to much for most editors to handle having in memory, I suggest sed or something like it |
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| 19:11.14 | valdyn_ | mere: following google, i would try running one of the various windows tools able to deal with that format with wine |
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| 19:11.31 | valdyn_ | mere: since there does not seem to be a linux software to deal with it |
| 19:11.39 | mith | Gathond: more like because they try to mmap it on a 32bit architecture and you can't do >4G that way, but, I didn't ask why, I know why :P |
| 19:11.44 | mith | guess i'll just split it |
| 19:11.45 | mith | ugg |
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| 19:12.17 | Gathond | mith: true, but sed would probably dont have that restriction, but if sed cant do what you need then yes, splitting it is probably the best option |
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| 19:12.20 | valdyn_ | mere: ah, except probably the linux version of nero |
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| 19:12.39 | mith | if sed could do what I need i wouldn't be trying to open it in vi :P |
| 19:12.51 | mere | valdyn_, thought of doing that.. though, i didn't really had luck with daemon tools when i tried it |
| 19:12.53 | samuel | what was the name of that program to create dummy packages to satisfy deps? |
| 19:12.58 | mith | it's a db dump and stupid mysql is bitching about a syntax problem in it |
| 19:13.00 | azeem | equivs |
| 19:13.02 | mere | valdyn_, unfortunately nero can't handle ccd/cdi :/ |
| 19:13.05 | samuel | azeem, thx |
| 19:13.21 | mere | there is alcohol 120% might try it.. |
| 19:13.30 | valdyn_ | mere: dont need daemon tools, you need to run a windows tool that converts from/to ccd to iso |
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| 19:14.31 | mere | valdyn_, there is a linux script that claims to do it. i just never had luck with it. |
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| 19:14.49 | darky_ | ikariwarrior, i installed the both, and when i plug the cam in it register the modules snd-usb or something like that instead of quickcam |
| 19:14.55 | mere | but that's off-topic anyways. |
| 19:15.00 | mere | thank you for the help :D |
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| 19:15.28 | ikariwarrior | darky.. cant remember getting any problems like that. |
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| 19:16.04 | ikariwarrior | allmighty google has no info on it? |
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| 19:16.56 | darky_ | ikariwarrior, Can I link the module directly to the usb address ? cause when I load the module alone, it can t open /dev/video0 |
| 19:17.47 | valdyn_ | mere: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/KIso-2429.shtml |
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| 19:18.08 | darky_ | ikariwarrior, no info |
| 19:18.19 | ikariwarrior | darky_ sorry.... |
| 19:18.40 | darky_ | ok no problem |
| 19:19.09 | mere | ooooh this program looks really nice.. |
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| 19:19.19 | mere | thank you very much! valdyn_ :D |
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| 19:20.23 | th0ger | How can I remove newlines in a file/stream (with sed or something)? |
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| 19:22.43 | JuanCraft | Can somebody help me? |
| 19:22.55 | ikariwarrior | ' |
| 19:23.11 | darky_ | yeah ? |
| 19:23.11 | xLobeznox | JuanCraft, maybe, ask |
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| 19:23.28 | SalsaDoom | lol. |
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| 19:23.50 | leopoldo | hi boy |
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| 19:24.10 | ikariwarrior | ,,,hï |
| 19:24.10 | JuanCraft | How can install a TV capture... |
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| 19:24.36 | leopoldo | hi boy |
| 19:24.45 | sandman | I cannot download anything via BT, anyone know why this might be? |
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| 19:25.02 | leopoldo | How can I mount a ntfs disk on /mnt/disco_C ? |
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| 19:25.05 | sandman | I'm trying to download the 7th Sarge CD right now via BT, but I'm getting 0kbps and have been for like an entire day |
| 19:25.10 | din | sandman: incoming port blocked? |
| 19:25.13 | sandman | I upload though |
| 19:25.13 | kikaha07 | JuanCraft: apt-get install tvtime |
| 19:25.15 | sandman | Just can't download |
| 19:25.22 | sandman | din: I have no firewall up |
| 19:25.24 | chedabob | wot bt client u using? |
| 19:25.29 | sandman | But I am behind a firewall |
| 19:25.31 | sandman | bittornado |
| 19:25.39 | chedabob | u connected to any seeders? |
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| 19:25.44 | chedabob | or just peers? |
| 19:25.48 | leopoldo | abrotman: good evening |
| 19:25.50 | stew | sandman: do you even need the 7th sarge cd? |
| 19:25.51 | din | seeders are important |
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| 19:25.54 | leopoldo | could you help me |
| 19:26.01 | sandman | Yes, http://bttracker.acc.umu.se:6969/ |
| 19:26.10 | JuanCraft | kikaha07: for kind of chips? |
| 19:26.12 | chedabob | no are YOU connected to seeders |
| 19:26.19 | din | not the tracker |
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| 19:26.26 | sandman | stew: Yes, because in about a week I will have no internet connectin |
| 19:26.27 | JuanCraft | kikaha07: all kind of chips? |
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| 19:26.40 | sandman | chedabob: Not sure how to tell just gimme a sec so I can figure it out |
| 19:26.42 | leopoldo | abrotman: I have to mount a ntfs fs on mount poin /mnt/disco_C |
| 19:26.50 | leopoldo | how can I do? |
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| 19:26.57 | chedabob | sandman i guess ull have a colum saying seeders and peers |
| 19:27.00 | kikaha07 | JuanCraft: compile the kernel for it - |
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| 19:27.05 | chedabob | i use bitcomet so im not familiar |
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| 19:27.35 | sandman | I don't believe I'm connected to anything, no |
| 19:27.56 | chedabob | how come ur not using ftp? |
| 19:27.59 | chedabob | ftp is fast |
| 19:28.00 | ikariwarrior | leopoldo /dev/hd* /mnt/disco ntfs ro,defaults |
| 19:28.01 | chedabob | usually |
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| 19:28.06 | leopoldo | can Anyone help me |
| 19:28.11 | tarzeau | is there a way to use emacs like commands in the thunderbird editor? |
| 19:28.12 | stew | sandman: why not use jigdo? |
| 19:28.13 | sandman | Perhaps, but I'd like to figure out why this thing isn't working |
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| 19:28.25 | chedabob | mebe ur having connection problems |
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| 19:28.28 | JuanCraft | kikaha07: Anything else? |
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| 19:28.30 | chedabob | bt is a bit unreliable |
| 19:28.30 | tarzeau | the old mozilla mailer editor supported emacs like cursore movement |
| 19:28.34 | sandman | stew: about a week ago, I got 700kpbs off BT |
| 19:28.35 | leopoldo | help mount |
| 19:28.43 | sandman | stew: And far less off FTP or jidgo |
| 19:28.45 | sandman | jigdo, rather |
| 19:28.45 | chedabob | mebe ur only connected to peers who dont have any parts u need |
| 19:28.56 | Zvpun | how can I verify that if I hit 'ä' its using unicode instead of some Latin-XX stuff. |
| 19:28.57 | ikariwarrior | leopoldo edit your /etc/fstab |
| 19:29.05 | kikaha07 | JuanCraft: is you are unshure compile modules and try it out |
| 19:29.13 | sandman | chedabob: That shouldn't be the problem |
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| 19:29.39 | pem3v78 | I want to get debian installer sources. It's seems that there are no tags inside svn for sarge installer. Am I right ? |
| 19:29.41 | chedabob | hmm...sometimes i connect to peers with the same %as me so i cant download anymore |
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| 19:30.16 | chedabob | sandman are any other bt downloads working for you? |
| 19:30.19 | JuanCraft | kikaha07: Ok, i'll try thanX |
| 19:30.24 | sandman | chedabob: Haven't tried |
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| 19:31.00 | sandman | Yes |
| 19:31.02 | sandman | Very much so |
| 19:31.06 | sandman | other torrents work very fast |
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| 19:31.18 | chedabob | does bit tornado show which peers ur connected to? |
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| 19:32.48 | stew | sandman: i started it for cd7 and i'm getting bits, but very slowly |
| 19:32.50 | TwistedEmotionsO | God damn... mac irc client software sucks nuts... |
| 19:33.07 | chedabob | sandman use ftp |
| 19:33.11 | chedabob | ull get it faster |
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| 19:33.29 | sandman | Exactly. Why fix things when you can just leave them to haunt you later on |
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| 19:33.44 | chedabob | hehe |
| 19:33.51 | chedabob | could just be a problem with the torrent |
| 19:33.58 | chedabob | close it then start again |
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| 19:34.03 | leopoldo | in Kde how can I pass to root from a normal user |
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| 19:34.27 | chedabob | su |
| 19:34.57 | mjk69 | TwistedEmotionsO: Have you tried Colloquy or MacIrssi? Both based on irssi. |
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| 19:35.02 | shinu | are there any torrents for debian dvd isos? |
| 19:35.12 | chedabob | ye |
| 19:35.28 | nkuttler | TwistedEmotionsO: install fink or darwinports, all software you want |
| 19:35.35 | chedabob | they are on the torrent servers (where u can get the cd torrents from) |
| 19:35.51 | TwistedEmotionsO | mjk64L I got the only thing I coulg find with was 'Skan' |
| 19:35.53 | shinu | chedabob: ok, ill have a look |
| 19:36.01 | mith | mjk69: i don't know that i'd be too vocal about colloquy being based on irssi |
| 19:36.08 | mith | as that just makes irssi look shittier |
| 19:36.13 | TwistedEmotionsO | **could fine which was 'Snak' |
| 19:36.22 | mjk69 | mith: Oh I see ... |
| 19:36.23 | TwistedEmotionsO | Wow.. typing on a lappy sucks too ;P) |
| 19:36.27 | shinu | chedabob: got it, thanks :) |
| 19:36.31 | darkcmd | is there a version of aterm with tabs |
| 19:36.36 | chedabob | theres two btw |
| 19:36.39 | mjk69 | mith: Haven't tried it, don't have a Mac. :-) |
| 19:36.50 | nkuttler | darkcmd: do you know screen? |
| 19:37.07 | darkcmd | chedabob, yeah? |
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| 19:37.21 | darkcmd | nkuttler, yeah, i'd prefer something else |
| 19:37.37 | chedabob | darkcmd i was talking to shinu |
| 19:37.38 | chedabob | lol |
| 19:37.48 | darkcmd | chedabob, oops :( |
| 19:37.56 | chedabob | hehe no problem |
| 19:37.58 | shinu | chedabob: 2 dvds you mean? |
| 19:38.00 | row2 | how do I stop password promtfor a certian cmd/user with sudo as it needs to be run by a php script? |
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| 19:38.07 | sandman | I thought BT was supposed to have basically one fileserver |
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| 19:38.14 | sandman | Such that one can always get _some_ downloaded |
| 19:38.17 | billybong | okay |
| 19:38.23 | chedabob | it comes from other people |
| 19:38.25 | billybong | how can i get an updated /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 19:38.26 | Zvpun | how can I verify that if I hit 'ä' its using unicode instead of some Latin-XX stuff. |
| 19:38.31 | billybong | the one i have is outdated |
| 19:38.39 | chedabob | maybe the people with all the file (seeds) have gone offline |
| 19:38.50 | chedabob | or the peers dont have enough for you to download |
| 19:38.58 | sandman | But shouldn't debian host at least one seed |
| 19:39.02 | sandman | It would make more sense. |
| 19:39.09 | chedabob | hmm |
| 19:39.11 | chedabob | u would think so |
| 19:39.14 | sandman | Yes. |
| 19:39.16 | chedabob | but its down to bandwidth |
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| 19:39.26 | sandman | Debian could limit the bandwidth to 1kpbs |
| 19:39.32 | sandman | So long as it's _something_ |
| 19:39.34 | chedabob | they usually seed it for a bit until theres enough other people |
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| 19:39.41 | mere | hmm i agree. debian itself should maintain at least one seed on its torrents |
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| 19:39.48 | chedabob | with the whole file but sometimes people get greedy and leech |
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| 19:40.05 | chedabob | leechers suck |
| 19:40.05 | sandman | Right. But like I said, limit downloading from the seed to 1kpbs |
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| 19:40.11 | sandman | 1kpbs will add up hugely with BT |
| 19:40.15 | TwistedEmotionsO | Wow... 84mb for a fucking irc client? |
| 19:40.19 | TwistedEmotionsO | OSX Sucks |
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| 19:40.26 | sandman | Just so long as there's one consistent seed to download from. Even if it's 1kpbs :) |
| 19:40.36 | chedabob | hmm...debian prolly seeded till 10 people were seeds but they prolly stop seeding |
| 19:40.39 | mere | yes, i agree |
| 19:40.42 | chedabob | yes |
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| 19:40.45 | chedabob | true |
| 19:40.50 | chedabob | but people are selfish |
| 19:40.53 | sandman | That should be changed. |
| 19:40.59 | sandman | There should be some official seeds, I think. |
| 19:40.59 | chedabob | ive seeded files for 3 or more days |
| 19:41.02 | mere | then it's no wonder the FTP servers are always loaded |
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| 19:41.28 | mere | people can't do it on BT, they go to FTP |
| 19:41.33 | sandman | Yip. |
| 19:41.37 | chedabob | sandman: there was, in the beginning, but once enough people have the file, the original seeder goes, hoping the seeders carry on |
| 19:41.38 | mere | just keep a FTP mirror or two on BT, perhaps? |
| 19:41.51 | sandman | chedabob: That's not how BT works |
| 19:41.54 | mere | instead of serving on FTP, guess that would work |
| 19:41.55 | chedabob | it is |
| 19:41.57 | sandman | I know |
| 19:42.10 | sandman | That's how people _think_ it works, apparently, but that never ends up with good torrents |
| 19:42.14 | mere | chedabob, while you're downloading, you also help distributing the file |
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| 19:42.18 | chedabob | if i had a file i would seed till say 50 people had it then i would turn off |
| 19:42.35 | sandman | chedabob: If I had a file I wanted distributed, I'd seed it until I didn't want to distribute it anymore |
| 19:42.44 | mere | i generally seed until my ratio is higher than 1,5 |
| 19:42.48 | sandman | So to me, Debian must not want people to download their releases |
| 19:42.50 | sarver311 | Hey all i was wondering if someone had a moment in regards to a kernel question i had. |
| 19:43.05 | mere | not via BT, at least |
| 19:43.11 | sandman | That's correct |
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| 19:43.39 | mere | i generally prefer downloading via BT because the more loaded it is, the faster. |
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| 19:43.45 | chedabob | sandman, its down to bandwidth and money, if i seed till 50 people have it, that means i cant use my system because the upload uses the bandwidth |
| 19:43.47 | sandman | Yip |
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| 19:43.55 | sandman | What? |
| 19:43.59 | matt_o|work | does anyone know how to make a bash script change to the script's directory upon running? (ie figure out which directory the script is in, and then 'cd' to it) |
| 19:44.01 | sandman | Limit the upload to 1kpbs |
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| 19:44.25 | chedabob | ye but if im the only one with the file, the fastest anyone would get is 1 |
| 19:44.32 | sandman | I guess I'll just do it |
| 19:44.32 | chedabob | until other people get enough |
| 19:44.35 | sandman | But I'll need to files first |
| 19:44.35 | M23 | how can i tell what my sound device is called in /dev ? |
| 19:44.43 | chedabob | its dsp |
| 19:44.45 | chedabob | i think |
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| 19:45.38 | M23 | chedabob, indeed it is..... |
| 19:45.54 | chedabob | lol im a n00b :P |
| 19:46.00 | chedabob | still learning |
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| 19:46.31 | M23 | we're all noobs in different ways |
| 19:46.40 | chedabob | lol |
| 19:46.42 | chedabob | ye me in linux |
| 19:46.47 | mere | don't really know, perhaps BT still doesn't work properly because people don't have BT culture yet. if half the load debian FTP servers would be capped to BT, i think it would work very very well. While people is downloading, they also seed, that would help speeding up the distribution entirely, not only relying on the main server's speed |
| 19:46.57 | varroa | Matt_O: If you are running the script from the command line the current directory will be the same as the script's location. If you are running it via cron, the current directory will be $HOME. |
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| 19:47.30 | chedabob | bt is a good idea but people download the file, then dont share. thats whats prolly happened with debian. debian distributed it till there was loads of seeds, then the seeds got fed up and disconnected |
| 19:47.31 | M23 | but you're using it, and you're here. that's more than a lot of people could manage |
| 19:47.41 | ircops | if I wanna patch up to 2.6.13.3 from 2.6.13.2, am I going to be using make-kpkg for that? |
| 19:47.42 | chedabob | hmm... |
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| 19:47.54 | chedabob | using it, and using it when its working are two different things :P |
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| 19:48.19 | M23 | yeah..... don;t think I've ever run a system that worked 100% |
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| 19:48.24 | M23 | part of the fun though |
| 19:48.27 | sandman | I wish there was an SDI interface to BT, such that I could seed 14 different torrents, but limit the upload for all of them together to 1kpbs |
| 19:48.35 | chedabob | i do that |
| 19:48.37 | chedabob | usually |
| 19:48.44 | KrLoS | hi people |
| 19:48.46 | nkuttler | ircops: hm, why don't you simply use patch? search man make-kpkg for patch |
| 19:48.47 | chedabob | HI |
| 19:48.47 | mere | i think no one has ever known something that ran or was 100% of what it would be supposed to be |
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| 19:48.51 | KrLoS | were can i find w32codecs debian |
| 19:48.55 | KrLoS | for debian |
| 19:48.55 | ircops | nkuttler: k |
| 19:49.02 | nkuttler | Klowner: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 19:49.18 | M23 | true... |
| 19:49.18 | nkuttler | KrLoS: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 19:49.21 | chedabob | hmm...my linux distro runs, but not properly. no wireless internet, only two of three partitions mounted, no sound |
| 19:49.29 | phar0z | no wireless internet? |
| 19:49.33 | chedabob | yup |
| 19:49.37 | M23 | what wireless card you got? |
| 19:49.37 | chedabob | almost sorted it |
| 19:49.37 | phar0z | I also had that problem |
| 19:49.45 | chedabob | linksys wusb54g v4 |
| 19:49.46 | phar0z | but I fixed it :) |
| 19:49.48 | chedabob | ive got a driver |
| 19:49.49 | phar0z | really? |
| 19:49.51 | chedabob | its the config part |
| 19:49.53 | phar0z | I also have linksys router :p |
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| 19:50.03 | chedabob | ye |
| 19:50.06 | chedabob | i like linksys |
| 19:50.11 | phar0z | yeah |
| 19:50.13 | mere | my system works as i want it to. at least until now.. when the number of things i want it to do grows up, i will have probems |
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| 19:50.19 | phar0z | did you installed the driver? |
| 19:50.23 | chedabob | which one |
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| 19:50.34 | KrLoS | nkuttler, thanks |
| 19:50.42 | phar0z | well your wireless internet driver :p |
| 19:50.45 | chedabob | Rt2x00, is one that ive found |
| 19:50.52 | chedabob | well its a windows driver |
| 19:50.55 | chedabob | which is no use in linux |
| 19:51.00 | phar0z | search a linux driver for it |
| 19:51.00 | nkuttler | KrLoS: np |
| 19:51.08 | nkuttler | chedabob: what chipset does the card have? |
| 19:51.17 | chedabob | Rt2x00 |
| 19:51.20 | phar0z | you have to install a linux driver en check if it's loaded in your kernel module |
| 19:51.21 | chedabob | Rt2750 |
| 19:51.27 | chedabob | ye i can install it |
| 19:51.30 | chedabob | its the config side |
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| 19:51.36 | chedabob | http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Mandrake_10_rt2570_Howto |
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| 19:51.42 | M23 | did you try using ndiswrapper for the driver? |
| 19:51.46 | chedabob | that shows me how to install driver |
| 19:51.46 | phar0z | than you add it to your network with network tools :p |
| 19:51.54 | chedabob | hmmm... |
| 19:51.59 | M23 | the windows one that is |
| 19:52.00 | phar0z | don't forget apt-get install wireless-tools etc |
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| 19:52.01 | chedabob | the tutorial sez i should make a conifg |
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| 19:52.33 | phar0z | su (root password) and do ifconfig |
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| 19:53.03 | chedabob | phar0z on the page i got down as far as modprobe but then it goes weird |
| 19:53.11 | chedabob | # chmod +x /etc/init.d/wireless-script |
| 19:53.11 | chedabob | # vi /etc/rc.local |
| 19:53.11 | chedabob | |
| 19:53.11 | chedabob | #!/bin/sh |
| 19:53.11 | chedabob | # |
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| 19:53.17 | phar0z | hmm |
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| 19:53.33 | chedabob | stupid thing |
| 19:53.34 | phar0z | oh lol |
| 19:53.34 | stew | wtf |
| 19:53.39 | chedabob | sent too many lines |
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| 19:54.23 | chedabob | pittilo do you have an english guide? |
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| 19:56.13 | chedabob | wtf whats with all the joins? |
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| 19:56.31 | KrLoS | i was usin the line in y spource list: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 19:56.39 | KrLoS | but when i do an update |
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| 19:56.55 | KrLoS | well not get connection with this repository |
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| 19:57.07 | KrLoS | maybe some one knows why |
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| 19:57.09 | ircops | !kernel patch |
| 19:57.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, kernel patch is cd /usr/src/linux && bunzip2 < /tmp/pre-patch-2.2.x.bz2 | patch -p1 |
| 19:57.11 | ircops | ^---- is that correct? |
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| 19:57.37 | stew | chedabob: whatever guide you are reading is not relevant to debian. there is no rc.local in debian. you should put all your network config in /etc/network/interfaces ; man wireless ; man interfaces |
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| 19:57.42 | matt_o|work | varroa : thx |
| 19:57.49 | chedabob | kk im going now |
| 19:57.56 | chedabob | thanks for all your help guys |
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| 19:58.02 | e2e | KrLoS: I have same line, and there is no problem... |
| 19:58.11 | M23 | chedabob, http://www.groupsrv.com/linux/about54000.html&sid=16dc61f3c1281179690ba3f09037fe4d |
| 19:58.19 | stew | ircops: thats correct except you should replace linux with whatever directory your kernel source is in (it should not be in /usr/src/linux) |
| 19:58.23 | M23 | if you're gonna use ndiswrapper |
| 19:58.35 | ircops | stew: okay |
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| 19:58.57 | dings | any way to make bash caseinsensitive? I have loads of scrips on a cd, and the filenames are uppercase on the disk, and lowercase in the scrips? |
| 19:58.58 | ircops | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej |
| 19:59.00 | ircops | ? |
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| 19:59.36 | LSorense | ircops: time to go look at the rejects and manually aply those changes if necesary |
| 19:59.36 | stew | ircops: in general that should only happen when you are using a patch that is for a different source version than what you've got |
| 20:00.07 | LSorense | din: then the scripts are either wrong or the cd made wrong |
| 20:00.16 | chedabob | CYA |
| 20:00.17 | LSorense | er dings |
| 20:00.18 | chedabob | oops |
| 20:00.19 | chedabob | cya |
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| 20:00.22 | ircops | stew: I am using kernel 2.6.13.2 -- I have compiled kernels before, but never patched, so I don't know what I'm doing |
| 20:00.39 | ircops | stew: and patching to 2.6.13.3 |
| 20:00.50 | dings | LSorense: I know :) was just looking for a siple solution |
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| 20:01.14 | LSorense | dings: if the cd has ONLY dos filenames, by default mount will apply map=normal and make all filenames lowercase |
| 20:01.14 | dings | LSorense: guess I have to copy it all to disk, and change the filenames |
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| 20:01.34 | kikaha07 | ircops: why you patch a kernel to 2.6.13.3 ? |
| 20:01.41 | LSorense | din: if the filenames were actually made uppercase on windows specicially and burned with joliet support, then you are stuck with the mistake |
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| 20:01.46 | LSorense | er dings |
| 20:01.48 | din | lol |
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| 20:02.18 | LSorense | ngs: you can try mounting with -o map=normal if you want and see if it isn't the default the way mount claims it should be |
| 20:02.21 | dings | LSorense: thanks, I may have to just copy it all to disk and script something to change the filenames |
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| 20:02.40 | ircops | kikaha07: I suppose that's the way it worked... I didn't want to download onfigure and compile the whole 2.6.13.3 source |
| 20:02.40 | LSorense | dings: rename 'y/[A-Z]/[a-z]/' * |
| 20:02.43 | ircops | configure* |
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| 20:02.57 | kadigibox | Does anyone know anything about TV tuner cards? I have one and I am not sure how to make it work and what program I would need |
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| 20:03.07 | LSorense | ircops: what version did you have before patching? |
| 20:03.10 | dings | LSorense: thanks again, was starting to look at sed or python :) |
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| 20:03.23 | ircops | LSorense: I haven't patched yet... I have 2.6.13.2 |
| 20:03.25 | LSorense | dings: rename is very good at that job |
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| 20:03.43 | LSorense | ircops: well the 2.6.13.3 patch applies to 2.6.13 NOT 2.6.13.2 |
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| 20:03.48 | dings | LSorense: how do I make it recursive? |
| 20:03.50 | LSorense | ircops: as far as I know |
| 20:03.51 | ircops | LSorense: d'oh |
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| 20:03.56 | LSorense | dings: ehm, not sure |
| 20:04.07 | dings | LSorense: I'll figure it out |
| 20:04.07 | LSorense | ircops: could get the 2.6.13.2 patch, apply it reverseed, then apply the new one |
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| 20:04.28 | ircops | wtf |
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| 20:04.31 | beanz | Is a CNAME pointing to another CNAME (which points to an A record) legal? |
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| 20:04.41 | LSorense | beanz: I think so yes |
| 20:04.42 | ircops | maybe I'll just checkout the changelog and see if it's worth it lol |
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| 20:05.09 | beanz | LSorense, what about a CNAME that matches $ORIGIN as a CNAM pointing to a subdomain of $ORIGIN? |
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| 20:05.25 | LSorense | beanz: I have no idea what $ORIGIN is |
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| 20:05.45 | Wanderer | it's a bad theory on Stargate SG1 |
| 20:05.58 | beanz | LSorense, the zone |
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| 20:06.30 | LSorense | beanz: well I am not sure if the zone itself can be a cname or if it has to be resolved to an ip. I just know cname pointing to cname is perfectly normal |
| 20:06.49 | mere | tsk, time to leave.. thank you all for everything~ |
| 20:06.49 | beanz | LSorense, okay thanks LSorense |
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| 20:07.47 | vca | beanz: fwiw, CNAME cannot exist with any other RRs in the same namespace. |
| 20:07.53 | kevin06 | Anyon here from Canada? |
| 20:07.59 | LSorense | kevin06: many people are |
| 20:08.05 | beanz | vca, what do you mean? |
| 20:09.04 | kevin06 | LSorense, I am having a discussion with a friend, and we need an answer. It's a silly question, but I am serious. Do Canadians call Oreos cookies or Biscuits? |
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| 20:10.01 | vca | beanz: like, if you have "domain.org. IN CNAME somewhereelse.org", domain.org can't have any other records. |
| 20:11.37 | vca | beanz: i don't know if that has any bearing on your problem, but it's a common problem with CNAME RRs, and i had difficulty understanding what you meant by "subdomain of $ORIGIN" |
| 20:12.38 | beanz | vca, I see :) So if I have a host, say host01.example.com, and a domain called test.com, and I was test.com ftp.test.com www.test.com all to point at host01.example.com, I can make ftp.test.com and www.test.com CNAMES to test.com, then make that an A record to host01.example.com? |
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| 20:15.35 | beanz | vca, actually can I miss of an A record for $ORIGIN all together? |
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| 20:15.41 | beanz | Is that legal? |
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| 20:16.27 | KrLoS | hi e2e |
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| 20:16.42 | abrotman | beanz: #dns ? |
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| 20:16.51 | Zvpun | how can I verify that if I hit 'ä' its using unicode instead of some Latin-XX stuff. |
| 20:16.53 | beanz | abrotman, tx |
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| 20:17.06 | vca | beanz: pm me, abrotman's right, this is OT for #debian |
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| 20:17.18 | abrotman | it's OT for #dns .. erm .. OnTopic :) |
| 20:17.28 | vca | truth ;) |
| 20:17.37 | abrotman | and many more eyes to watch |
| 20:17.45 | beanz | Okay will ask in there. Sorry. |
| 20:17.48 | pshaggy | what program do I use to convert from avi to mpeg? |
| 20:17.52 | KrLoS | e2e: when i tru to connect to ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge/main well mi apt-get update tell me Could not connect to ftp.nerim.net:21 (32.1.7.168), connection timed out |
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| 20:19.38 | darkera | any idea what I should do to get my [usb] gps-tracker drivers off of the manufactures cd-rom and where they should be going? Their included documentation shows installation in windows only +_= |
| 20:19.51 | darkera | there is a makefile in the dir, as well as some .c and .h files |
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| 20:20.25 | hans0lo | darkera: ./configure ; make ; make install |
| 20:20.42 | darkera | hans0lo: tyyyyyyyyy :) |
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| 20:22.15 | KrLoS | people plz |
| 20:22.27 | KrLoS | when i try to connect to ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge/main well mi apt-get update tell me Could not connect to ftp.nerim.net:21 (32.1.7.168), connection timed out |
| 20:22.43 | darkera | no rule to make target 'install'. stop |
| 20:22.49 | kadigibox | Does anyone know anything about TV tuner cards? I have one and I am not sure how to make it work and what program I would need |
| 20:23.09 | jkern | 2.4.27-2-686 -- Should I try to use scsi emulation for cdrw? |
| 20:23.24 | jcole | KrLoS: connects fine for me... |
| 20:23.35 | eobanb | kadigibox, apt-get install xawtv |
| 20:23.39 | eobanb | and see if it works. |
| 20:23.43 | hans0lo | KrLoS: try a different mirror, like mirrors.kernel.org |
| 20:24.08 | hans0lo | KrLoS: or try a http mirror instead of FTP |
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| 20:24.24 | eobanb | also google your brand/model of card + v4l and see what that comes up with |
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| 20:25.02 | KrLoS | hans0lo, i must change ftp://ftp.nerim.net by mirros.kernel.org or why |
| 20:25.14 | KrLoS | that i wan to do is get w32codec and mplayer |
| 20:25.17 | Anthro | KrLoS: I can get to ftp.nerim.net just fine. Perhaps your ISP is filtering it somehow? |
| 20:25.33 | KrLoS | o well |
| 20:25.44 | abrotman | jkern: for 2.4 yes .. for 2.6 no |
| 20:25.47 | KrLoS | i gonna see wy |
| 20:25.52 | KrLoS | it is strange |
| 20:26.04 | jkern | abrotman, 2.4 yes |
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| 20:26.22 | darkera | hans0lo: do i need to specify any other options? it doesn't appear to be working as is |
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| 20:27.44 | jkern | abrotman, does /etc/default/cdrecord need to be edited? |
| 20:28.00 | abrotman | i've never used it in my life .. nfc |
| 20:28.09 | kadigibox | eobanb, I cannot seem to get xawtv to do anything |
| 20:28.26 | eobanb | what's your brand/model of card |
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| 20:28.36 | fran_ | hello |
| 20:28.43 | eobanb | and what does xawtv spit out |
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| 20:28.43 | fran_ | anybody knows if it's possible to install old nvidia drivers on debian via apt-get? |
| 20:28.46 | kadigibox | its a haugepage or something like that |
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| 20:29.12 | whirm | fran_: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel |
| 20:29.30 | eobanb | you mean Hauppauge |
| 20:29.31 | fran_ | whirm: it installs latest, couldn't i choose the version? |
| 20:29.39 | hans0lo | darkera: make may have compiled the driver fine. Did you see any errors? If not, you probably need to copy the .o file somewhere |
| 20:29.44 | kadigibox | eobanb, yes |
| 20:29.47 | whirm | fran_: use aptitude |
| 20:30.26 | fran_ | whirm: isn't there any other method? |
| 20:30.36 | Anthro | fran_: man apt-get. I believe you can apt-get install nvidia-glx=version |
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| 20:30.46 | hans0lo | darkera: for example, on my system, the modules go in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686-smp/kernel/drivers/ |
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| 20:30.56 | fran_ | Anthro: will see |
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| 20:31.06 | hans0lo | darkera: is there a README? |
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| 20:32.10 | eobanb | if you just type xawtv, kadigibox, what happens |
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| 20:32.24 | kadigibox | I get a black window |
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| 20:32.40 | eobanb | what does the controlling terminal spit out |
| 20:32.44 | eobanb | message-wise |
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| 20:33.18 | darkera | hans0lo: hehehe they call it a readme but their linux documentation is somewhat lacking |
| 20:33.22 | kadigibox | Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct |
| 20:33.22 | kadigibox | ioctl: VIDIOCSWIN(x=449;y=473;width=384;height=288;chromakey=0;flags=0): Bad address |
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| 20:33.34 | eobanb | that's probably fine |
| 20:33.40 | darkera | hans0lo: I need see some parse errors though or something of that nature |
| 20:33.52 | eobanb | click on the xawtv window and bring up the xawtv controls |
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| 20:34.08 | kadigibox | Ok |
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| 20:34.18 | hans0lo | darkera: is there a .o file after you run make? |
| 20:34.37 | KrLoS | Anthro, hans0lo, jcole i was lookin why dnot connect bue,.. i dont understan why connect to other repositories |
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| 20:34.44 | eobanb | i think it's C then for channel window? |
| 20:34.45 | nomad_cz | Hi. Anyone familiar with smartmontools ? |
| 20:34.52 | Datasurfer | I am looking for someone who also has problems installing extensions for firefox in sid |
| 20:35.04 | KrLoS | just for it dont connect ftp://ftp.nerim.net |
| 20:35.13 | eobanb | kadigibox, see what i'm talking about? |
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| 20:36.35 | hans0lo | KrLoS: not sure if anyone asked you this earlier, but can you ftp to ftp.nerim.net manually? |
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| 20:37.01 | kadigibox | eobanb, nothing happens when I click on c |
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| 20:37.16 | mohkohn | Installed debian. Using the Debian from Scratch CD. Now running Sid. |
| 20:37.21 | KrLoS | hans0lo, i do it manually, |
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| 20:37.31 | bamse | e.g. grass fails with "E: Unable to find a source package for libgrass" |
| 20:37.41 | abrotman | so .. install it ? |
| 20:37.43 | KrLoS | hans0lo, just i want to know why,,, maybe coulñb you know |
| 20:37.49 | abrotman | !find libgrass |
| 20:37.50 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'libgrass' (2): libgrass ;; libgrass-dev. |
| 20:37.55 | eobanb | what? |
| 20:37.58 | abrotman | nerim is http now |
| 20:37.58 | eobanb | no you hit the C key |
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| 20:38.13 | hans0lo | KrLoS: So it _does_ connect when you FTP from the command-line? |
| 20:38.15 | mohkohn | Had a wierd thing with no lo network but after googling an re-RTFMing got that sorted out. |
| 20:38.19 | bamse | abrotman: apt-build build-source libgrass fails too... |
| 20:38.21 | KrLoS | yes i can do |
| 20:38.22 | mohkohn | Now I have no sound. |
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| 20:38.27 | abrotman | hans0lo: KrLoS .. nerim only operates on HTTP now afaik |
| 20:38.31 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 20:38.31 | dpkg | marillat is, like, an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
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| 20:38.37 | KrLoS | hans0lo, just with apt-get update i cant't connect |
| 20:38.39 | abrotman | oh .. maybe i was wrong ... ? |
| 20:38.43 | kadigibox | eobanb, I still get nothing |
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| 20:38.49 | abrotman | bamse: are you running sarge? |
| 20:38.55 | bamse | abrotman: yes |
| 20:38.57 | hans0lo | KrLoS: see arotman's comments above! |
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| 20:39.02 | abrotman | !find libgrass sarge |
| 20:39.02 | KrLoS | ueah |
| 20:39.04 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'libgrass' (2): libgrass ;; libgrass-dev. |
| 20:39.07 | Atula | It has been awhile. I was wondering: what do I need to install to be able to ssh into my box? sshd? |
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| 20:39.18 | abrotman | bamse: uhm .. shold be there |
| 20:39.21 | simonrvn | !info libgrass sarge |
| 20:39.23 | hans0lo | Atula: apt-get install ssh |
| 20:39.24 | dpkg | libgrass: (GRASS GIS development libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.0.0-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 788 kB, Installed size: 2056 kB |
| 20:39.25 | abrotman | !info libgrass sarge |
| 20:39.28 | abrotman | bah |
| 20:39.29 | dpkg | libgrass: (GRASS GIS development libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.0.0-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 788 kB, Installed size: 2056 kB |
| 20:39.30 | simonrvn | ah |
| 20:39.31 | abrotman | fucking stupid code |
| 20:39.33 | mohkohn | I know this laptop can have sound because it works with ubuntu. So it should also work with Debian Unstable. |
| 20:39.45 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 20:39.45 | dpkg | alsa one-liner is probably apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
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| 20:39.49 | bamse | abrotman: yeah, it is weird, also, the source is unpacked fine.... |
| 20:39.49 | Atula | hans0lo: I have that on |
| 20:39.57 | Atula | ah... nevermind |
| 20:39.59 | abrotman | bamse: strange indeed .. |
| 20:39.59 | Atula | wrong por |
| 20:40.00 | Atula | t |
| 20:40.02 | Atula | port |
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| 20:40.04 | mohkohn | alsamixer...nothing is muted |
| 20:40.07 | Atula | damn it. thank you so much |
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| 20:40.36 | mohkohn | uname -a Linux ren0 2.6.12-1-686 #1 Tue Sep 27 12:52:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:40.49 | eobanb | kadigibox; the black screen is good, you know need to change the channel the card is tuned to or something |
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| 20:40.58 | eobanb | if it wasnt working it would have said No video grabber device available |
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| 20:41.05 | mohkohn | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 20:41.14 | kikaha07 | advanced linux sound system is buidt for your needs -*hahaha* |
| 20:41.16 | bamse | abrotman: I have more errors, I could paste them in #flood |
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| 20:42.08 | bamse | abrotman: make anything from that...? |
| 20:42.11 | mohkohn | I have installed alsa-base and alsa-utils |
| 20:42.12 | kadigibox | eobanb, well I still cannot get anything other then black screen on it. I type c and C and I get nothing from that |
| 20:42.23 | eobanb | did you bring up the options window? |
| 20:42.31 | eobanb | also, do you have an antenna connected? |
| 20:42.36 | abrotman | bamse: yes .. it's not working :) |
| 20:42.39 | eobanb | because it might just go to a black screen if there's no signal |
| 20:42.41 | kadigibox | yes and I have cable connected |
| 20:42.48 | abrotman | bamse: chdir libgrass- ? |
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| 20:43.24 | kadigibox | and on the title bar I have listed channel 19 (NTSC/us-cable) |
| 20:43.29 | kadigibox | and I get nothing |
| 20:43.49 | h3xis | can anyone tell me how to activate eth0 from the console? i don't have an environment yet |
| 20:43.51 | jcole | mohkohn: you know it can "have sound" in what? gnome/esd? kde/arts? alsa? oss? ?? |
| 20:44.05 | jcole | mohkohn: try "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" |
| 20:44.08 | abrotman | h3xis: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:44.10 | abrotman | err |
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| 20:44.25 | abrotman | !tell h3xis about interfaces |
| 20:44.30 | h3xis | thank you :) |
| 20:44.42 | bamse | abrotman: eh, chdir...? |
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| 20:44.51 | gloin | there |
| 20:44.51 | abrotman | it's your error .. not mine |
| 20:44.53 | gloin | sheesh! |
| 20:44.56 | gloin | anyhow |
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| 20:45.10 | gloin | I just wanted to invite you all to view my latest (and most evil) debian box: |
| 20:45.13 | mohkohn | alsa. Wait out. I just redid alsaconf. I just need to logout |
| 20:45.17 | gloin | http://balrog.taupehat.com |
| 20:45.20 | gloin | link is work-safe |
| 20:45.48 | bamse | abrotman: ah, right, yeah, that's perl's chdir |
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| 20:46.06 | bamse | abrotman: and the dash looks just wrong to me... |
| 20:46.12 | vladster | I am looking to install on a dual core athlon, are there any issues that I should be aware of? |
| 20:46.15 | nomad_cz | Hi. I have found in my log messages like this: Hardware_ECC_Recovered/Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed. How bad is it ? Does it mean that my disk is failing ? (I have past full smart info on http://pastebin.com/384309) |
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| 20:46.37 | WiFiTux | is there any software that can use Exchange for email client?> |
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| 20:46.48 | abrotman | bamse: i suspect it's trying to chdir to libgrass-dev or -source -6.034 or something |
| 20:46.49 | WiFiTux | Evolution looks like does not have the option. |
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| 20:46.57 | bamse | abrotman: right |
| 20:47.00 | abrotman | WiFiTux: evolution can |
| 20:47.11 | hans0lo | WiFiTux: there is an additional package you need to install for exchange support |
| 20:47.14 | abrotman | WiFiTux: and what kind of connection options do tyou have ? |
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| 20:47.30 | thingfish | vladster: I'd ask in #debian-amd64. |
| 20:47.50 | hans0lo | WiFiTux: apt-get install evolution-exchange |
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| 20:47.52 | WiFiTux | hans0lo: ok thanks |
| 20:47.56 | WiFiTux | :) |
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| 20:48.42 | WiFiTux | dammed, what was the setting for apt-get for a web proxy? ggrr |
| 20:49.04 | bamse | abrotman: perhaps what it should do, is to chdir to the source tree, grass-6.0.0, but has allready failed to find it, thus trying libgrass, but adds a dash and fails to add the version number of something like that... :-) |
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| 20:49.25 | abrotman | bamse: i'd say it |
| 20:49.31 | abrotman | bamse: i'd say it's broken .. did you loko in the BTS ? |
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| 20:49.57 | bamse | abrotman: Yeah, sounds borked, I looked in the BTS, but didn't find anything obviously related |
| 20:50.05 | bamse | I guess I'll write up a report |
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| 20:50.09 | abrotman | bamse: have another box to try it on ? |
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| 20:50.19 | vladster | Did anyone have problems downloading from the Repositories last night? |
| 20:50.21 | Anandamide | if you install GRUB on a USB pendrive, do you also have to syslinux -s v/sda |
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| 20:50.37 | Anandamide | i mean syslinux -s dev/sda |
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| 20:51.01 | sven | if i insert my pcnet network card into i have to run dhclient as root, how can i make debian run it automatically? |
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| 20:51.15 | abrotman | vladster: which ? security.d.o has been a wreck |
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| 20:51.33 | bamse | abrotman: hmmm, I could try it at work, the interesting thing is that I have so far been unable to build r-recommended, whereas it went fine at work... |
| 20:51.39 | candle | hey hey |
| 20:51.39 | nomad_cz | Anyone familiar with smartmontools, pls ? :/ |
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| 20:52.20 | candle | nomad_cz: never heard of it |
| 20:52.27 | vladster | sarge |
| 20:52.51 | zinx | bamse: optimizing the algorithm tends to work better than tweaking cflags |
| 20:53.11 | blaamann | What does it mean when apt-get tells me that "The following packages have been kept back:" and lists alot of packages? I am running etch |
| 20:53.12 | emRick | Win98 says I have "Opti Audio 16" soundcard and I found a posting which said use "the MAD 16 driver". So I tried to "modprobe mad16" but I got "Invalid argument". Any suggestions? |
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| 20:53.15 | vladster | I had problems with security and had to redownload thismorning after everything else downloaded |
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| 20:53.30 | trollboy | I'm installing debian on a fresh system |
| 20:53.35 | trollboy | I have one 40gb, and 2 80 |
| 20:53.44 | zinx | emRick: what's the pci id? |
| 20:53.47 | candle | emRick: yes, I suggest delete and throw away Ms windows 98 |
| 20:53.50 | bamse | zinx: sure, but it doesn't hurt to have a bit more optimized binaries, and it is other people's software this... |
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| 20:54.13 | trollboy | I want the os and swap on the 40, with the remainder of the 40 and the additional 2 80gb devoted to /home |
| 20:54.16 | trollboy | how would i do this? |
| 20:54.24 | vladster | Use the 40 for your boot drive, the first 80 for your usr and the second for your home |
| 20:54.29 | emRick | candle: tossing Win98 ... in progress |
| 20:54.32 | bamse | zinx: I experienced a 20% performance gain by tweaking flags in the old days on alphaev6 and OSF |
| 20:54.45 | emRick | zinx: how do I determine pci id? |
| 20:54.51 | candle | emRick: well done. I did it myself |
| 20:55.05 | jcole | does the debian cd install add a commented ubuntu sources line? |
| 20:55.08 | nomad_cz | candle: disk monitoring ... |
| 20:55.12 | zinx | emRick: lspci -n | grep 0401: |
| 20:55.15 | vladster | I have a 60 for my boot, an 80 for my usr and a 120 for my home |
| 20:55.45 | emRick | candle: actually, I persnally don't run Windows but had it on an machine which I'm trying to setup for my Mom. |
| 20:55.50 | emRick | zinx: tnx |
| 20:56.05 | candle | emRick: ah ok |
| 20:56.15 | vladster | My next system will have a 160 boot, 160 usr and a 300 home |
| 20:56.17 | Anandamide | can you use grub to boot a USB key ? |
| 20:56.20 | candle | emRick: you are setting up linux for your mom, cool |
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| 20:56.47 | sandman | Yeah, now I'm downloading the debian ISOs @ 15kpbs |
| 20:56.57 | Anthro | vladster: Why would you need that much for boot? Maybe, possibly, if you never logrotate, for /var. |
| 20:56.58 | sandman | Debian needs to seed its torrents consistently |
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| 20:57.24 | mohkohn | I had sound rebooted and its gone. So I am close! |
| 20:57.40 | hans0lo | vladster: are you talking megabytes of gigabytes? |
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| 20:57.53 | vladster | var, tmp and other caching folders |
| 20:57.59 | sandman | vladster: a 160GB boot part.. that's stupid |
| 20:58.15 | vladster | That is the smallest I can get |
| 20:58.23 | hans0lo | vladster: 100mb is more than enough for boot |
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| 20:58.40 | trollboy | anyone have any suggestions? |
| 20:58.41 | vladster | the 160 is the same price |
| 20:58.45 | julio | hola |
| 20:58.49 | gloin | who's running a risc machine? |
| 20:58.50 | sandman | vladster: Make a partition |
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| 20:58.50 | sandman | sheesh |
| 20:59.01 | vladster | I can do that |
| 20:59.01 | hans0lo | vladster: make a partition of 100mb |
| 20:59.06 | Anthro | gloin: I am. Kind of. PPC. |
| 20:59.15 | trollboy | just saw your post there vladster |
| 20:59.15 | gloin | Anthro: am tailing logfiles... this came up |
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| 20:59.18 | gloin | (X11; U; Linux parisc; en-US; rv:1.7.10) |
| 20:59.22 | vladster | and use the other for the dvdrip cache |
| 20:59.32 | trollboy | but I have more than 80gb of data for home |
| 20:59.38 | Anthro | gloin: That isn't just any old RISC, that's an HP PA-RISC. |
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| 20:59.48 | gloin | hrm |
| 20:59.54 | sandman | home is usually where yo'll want most your space allocated |
| 20:59.57 | sandman | you'll* |
| 20:59.58 | trollboy | yup |
| 21:00.00 | trollboy | I know |
| 21:00.03 | gloin | someone from canadia |
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| 21:00.13 | vladster | I have seen my games take up 100 gigs alone in map files |
| 21:00.17 | Anthro | gloin: Yeah, they're wacky there. |
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| 21:00.35 | trollboy | I was planning 10gb for /, 500mb for swap, and the rest of the 40 and the two 80's devoted to /home |
| 21:00.37 | trollboy | how would I do that? |
| 21:00.40 | sandman | 100gb for map files? |
| 21:00.41 | gloin | running firefox on a hp swerver... |
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| 21:00.56 | gloin | oh wait |
| 21:01.03 | vladster | trollboy: are you going to be running anygames? |
| 21:01.03 | gloin | it's vanilla mozilla |
| 21:01.04 | polkah | hello people |
| 21:01.09 | polkah | I use gamin with kde, and when I copy a file on my desktop, gamin use 25% cpu. Do you think it's good ? Do you think kded polling is better ? (performance side) |
| 21:01.10 | Anthro | gloin: Probably an old, surplussed machine. |
| 21:01.14 | trollboy | vladster, I have an xbox for games |
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| 21:01.18 | polkah | or fam is better maybe ? |
| 21:01.18 | mohkohn | OK. I have run alsaconf. My sound works. How do I save my settings.? |
| 21:01.19 | gloin | aye |
| 21:01.22 | trollboy | my computers are for work |
| 21:01.26 | sandman | I don't know what game you're playing that requires 100GB in map files, but whoever created it must be very bad at programming |
| 21:01.27 | Anthro | !start a desktop war |
| 21:01.27 | dpkg | Sawfish, indeed, wins the #1 spot. |
| 21:01.29 | gloin | well, I'm rather fond of my new toaster |
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| 21:01.55 | mohkohn | Mako's book says the Volume levels should be saved?! |
| 21:02.23 | vladster | I have ut99, 2k4, doom 3 and the maps I have collected for 2k4 are 60 gigs in total |
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| 21:02.37 | vladster | ut99 about 30 gigs |
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| 21:03.08 | mohkohn | alsactl store. This may be the problem! |
| 21:03.14 | vladster | I might consider building my own redirect server |
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| 21:03.30 | sandman | redirect for what? |
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| 21:03.51 | kikaha07 | take flight to sydney - |
| 21:04.07 | vladster | maps so I don't have to keep them on the local machine in case of version mismatches |
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| 21:04.29 | sandman | ? |
| 21:04.38 | candle | ? |
| 21:04.41 | sandman | vladster: I'm afraid that doesn't make any sense. |
| 21:04.44 | blaamann | Is it normal that the "x-window-system-core" is held back when doing a dist-upgrade from Sarge to etch ? |
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| 21:04.53 | candle | sandman: dont be afraid |
| 21:04.55 | vladster | and I can download from the server at full network bandwidth |
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| 21:05.06 | sandman | candle: Afraid of what? |
| 21:05.13 | sandman | vladster: Right. |
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| 21:05.18 | kikaha07 | i want to know a "skippy" |
| 21:05.21 | candle | blaamann: you are upgrading from sarge to etch? |
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| 21:05.31 | sandman | vladster: Sounds like an inefficient overengineered solution to a nonproblem |
| 21:05.31 | blaamann | candle: yes |
| 21:05.37 | candle | kikaha07: skippy was from australia |
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| 21:05.48 | candle | blaamann: are you experienced in using linux and debian? |
| 21:05.54 | vladster | the online servers us a redirect so as to save server load when switching maps and the client does not have the map |
| 21:06.04 | blaamann | candle: Linux yes, not debian |
| 21:06.14 | candle | blaamann: why you want to upgrade to etch? |
| 21:06.18 | sandman | vladster: I'm afraid I no longer care, I'm sorry. |
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| 21:06.36 | candle | sandman: dont be afraid |
| 21:06.45 | sandman | candle: Afraid of what? |
| 21:06.53 | candle | sandman: you said you are afraid |
| 21:06.55 | Tortel | sanD! |
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| 21:07.17 | blaamann | candle: I need access to all the latest build tools. I usually build a lot of software myself from source. |
| 21:07.18 | vladster | don't worry I am not offended. it just makes good network sense, that is all |
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| 21:07.21 | sandman | candle: Were you always this strange, or did you have to work on it? :) |
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| 21:07.55 | candle | sandman: dont be afraid, dont worry. |
| 21:07.55 | foo | Hmm, what package contains alsaconf ? I tried apt-cache |
| 21:07.56 | foo | hmm |
| 21:08.08 | Tortel | alsa its self? |
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| 21:08.22 | vladster | I also plan to create my own local repos mirror so I can keep my machines up to date locally and refresh the files in off peak times |
| 21:08.27 | sandman | foo: use apt-file |
| 21:08.28 | emRick | zinx: "lspci -n" has no 0401 ... if curious, what I do have is in http://pastebin.com/384372 |
| 21:08.29 | foo | Tortel: Hmm, alsa is installed but alsaconf isn't .. |
| 21:08.34 | abrotman | !tell foo about search |
| 21:08.36 | candle | blaamann: what do you do with these software that you build? |
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| 21:09.18 | ilpavox | what is a good repository for unstables? |
| 21:09.28 | zinx | emRick: then you probably have the ISA version |
| 21:09.49 | foo | abrotman: hmm, I don't get that.. |
| 21:09.58 | foo | sandman: How do I use apt-file ? |
| 21:10.04 | foo | Hmm, I have alsaconf setup on my debian box at home |
| 21:10.04 | abrotman | foo: it tells you how to search on your own |
| 21:10.04 | foo | Whack |
| 21:10.11 | zinx | emRick: i used to have one of those.. trying to figure out the alsa driver |
| 21:10.12 | abrotman | !find bin/alsaconf |
| 21:10.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/alsaconf' (1): (/usr/sbin/alsaconf) in sound/alsa-utils. |
| 21:10.22 | umesh | I did apt-get install unixodbc, php4 and php4-odbc and when check on my phpinfo there is no support for ODBC, is anyone now how to enable ODBC support |
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| 21:10.36 | blaamann | candle: well for a starter I am a Enlightenment fan so I always build E from it's cvs server on the other distros I have been using. |
| 21:10.43 | abrotman | !dr17 |
| 21:10.43 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
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| 21:10.55 | zinx | emRick: try snd-opti93x |
| 21:11.27 | blaamann | candle: I also build mplayer and ffmpeg but I guess marillat can help me with those |
| 21:11.37 | emRick | zinx: ok, thanks ... so the posting advice I got was wrong |
| 21:12.01 | zinx | emRick: well, I don't know the OSS module; and I'm not sure that's the right ALSA driver ;) |
| 21:12.03 | foo | abrotman: pt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search filehere? ? |
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| 21:12.19 | abrotman | foo: pretty much |
| 21:12.19 | zinx | emRick: i -think- it is, but i've had so many cards it's hard to remember clearly |
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| 21:12.26 | en1gma | sup peeps |
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| 21:12.29 | abrotman | foo: and you can do like apt-file search bin/alsa-conf |
| 21:12.42 | lewis | halo, i'm trying to install packages that apt-get say dependencies require kernel 2.6.10=>, i've just installed debian sid $expert26 install, do i need to manually build a kernel >2.6.10? |
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| 21:13.10 | foo | abrotman: err, have you ever heard of alsaconf? I don't know why it's not working ... apt-file search bin/alsaconf returns nothing |
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| 21:13.46 | diepes | lewis: sid contains 2.6.12 just select and install |
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| 21:13.57 | lewis | strangeness... |
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| 21:14.00 | umesh | I did apt-get install unixodbc, php4 and php4-odbc and when check on my phpinfo there is no support for ODBC, is anyone now how to enable ODBC support |
| 21:14.14 | xwolf | foo: alsa-utils |
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| 21:14.33 | foo | xwolf: hmm, why doesn't apt-cache say that.. hmm |
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| 21:15.05 | xwolf | foo: it sure does on my machine |
| 21:15.10 | madclicker | when will akregator will be included in etch? |
| 21:15.16 | foo | laptop:/home/foo# apt-cache search alsaconf |
| 21:15.17 | foo | laptop:/home/foo# |
| 21:15.20 | foo | xwolf: hmn |
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| 21:15.37 | foo | Hmm, it's install right now .. |
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| 21:16.21 | xwolf | foo: somethings wrong with your apt-cache? |
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| 21:16.36 | foo | xwolf: hmm, don't think so |
| 21:16.51 | xwolf | well, why isn't it working then? ;) |
| 21:16.52 | ilpavox | anyone point me toward a list of apt repoitories? |
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| 21:17.02 | abrotman | ilpavox: apt-setup |
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| 21:18.02 | foo | \Shutting down ALSA...* /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found...'. |
| 21:18.05 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.06 | foo | Hmm... wierd. |
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| 21:18.09 | foo | Setting up |
| 21:18.11 | foo | Any ideas? |
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| 21:18.30 | en1gma | does debian install packages the same way slack does with the "installpkg" command |
| 21:18.38 | azeem | en1gma: no |
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| 21:18.42 | en1gma | O |
| 21:18.48 | ilpavox | abrotman: yea, i know about that.. i want ones with unstable too |
| 21:18.53 | en1gma | does debian use bash? |
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| 21:18.59 | lewis | do you all find there something wrong with putting in your apt/source.list a testing and an unstable repository? |
| 21:19.00 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.02 | hans0lo | foo: your running alsaconf as root, right? |
| 21:19.07 | foo | hans0lo: Yes |
| 21:19.07 | tarzeau | how to fix this crap? |
| 21:19.24 | abrotman | ilpavox: they're all the same |
| 21:19.25 | hans0lo | foo: what type of soundcard do you have? |
| 21:19.34 | foo | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) |
| 21:19.35 | azeem | en1gma: yes |
| 21:19.53 | en1gma | isnt installpkg a bash command |
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| 21:20.03 | azeem | en1gma: no |
| 21:20.05 | en1gma | O |
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| 21:20.30 | hans0lo | foo: I may get bitched at for this one, but have you tried a live CD like knoppix to see if you get sound? |
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| 21:21.44 | abrotman | !bitchslap hans0lo |
| 21:22.08 | abrotman | i suspect OSS is runnign and blocking |
| 21:22.12 | lewis | llol |
| 21:22.14 | abrotman | has foo asked #alsa ? |
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| 21:22.47 | emRick | zinx: got "No such device" when I did "modprobe snd-opti93x" ... do I do modprobe or anything else? (details at http://pastebin.com/384399) |
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| 21:23.26 | zinx | emRick: you have to specify io/irq/etc with ISA drivers |
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| 21:23.50 | zinx | emRick: some mad16's are plug'n'pray, you might want to see if your model is |
| 21:24.07 | zinx | emRick: 'pnpdump' will tell you that, and tell you the current configuration |
| 21:24.09 | emRick | zinx: do I get io/irq/etc from the web or from a log file or from some program? |
| 21:24.27 | emRick | zinx: pnpdump ... sounds good |
| 21:24.31 | zinx | emRick: to be honest, you'd save yourself a lot of time and trouble by buying a $10 PCI sound card ;) |
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| 21:25.25 | emRick | zinx: ah, ok |
| 21:25.29 | en1gma | hey all i got about another hour before both cds are finished dloading. never installed debian before. (im a slack used for a few years now) is debians install process similar to slack (as far as the bootloader like lilo and how you pick ur packages to install)? |
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| 21:25.32 | foo | hans0lo: Hmm, it works under Windows ... worked with mandrake ... just not debian. |
| 21:25.35 | foo | hmm |
| 21:25.53 | mohkohn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:25.58 | mohkohn | settings |
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| 21:26.21 | thingfish | yes |
| 21:26.33 | en1gma | yes ... to who |
| 21:26.44 | thingfish | sorry, to mohkohn. |
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| 21:26.49 | en1gma | ahh |
| 21:26.50 | en1gma | no |
| 21:26.51 | candle | i just complied xchat 2.,4.5 and it created 2 files... xchat-common_2.4.5-2_all.deb and xchat_2.4.5-2_i386.deb. But when I type "dpkg -i xchat_2.4.5-2_i386.deb" it says error; xchat depends on xchat-common (= 2.4.5-2); however: |
| 21:26.52 | candle | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.52 | en1gma | prob |
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| 21:27.16 | sator | oh fuck |
| 21:27.17 | candle | thingfish: any ideas? |
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| 21:27.20 | thingfish | en1gma: I haven't done slack in so long...but if you can do slack's, you can do debian's. |
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| 21:27.36 | thingfish | sorry candle, just got back from the store, haven't read back yet. |
| 21:27.41 | lewis | hmm, curious udev.. it requires kernel >= 2.6.10... but i can't install a kernel > 2.6.10 unless i have it? |
| 21:27.42 | candle | thingfish: i just complied xchat 2.,4.5 and it created 2 files... xchat-common_2.4.5-2_all.deb and xchat_2.4.5-2_i386.deb. how do I now install it? |
| 21:28.02 | thingfish | candle: do them both at the same time. |
| 21:28.04 | rooky | alguien tiene info de como configurar el apt-cacher? |
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| 21:28.07 | candle | thingfish: how? |
| 21:28.26 | thingfish | dpkg -i fileone filetwo |
| 21:28.31 | jaybuffet | is there a way of changing the order the boot scripts start. or something that handles dependency |
| 21:28.33 | thingfish | hehe |
| 21:28.43 | thingfish | didn't quite mean to get *that* |
| 21:28.53 | candle | thingfish: just an empty space or a ; ? |
| 21:28.57 | kikaha07 | *rofl* |
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| 21:29.34 | thingfish | just like I wrote it: dpkg -i fileone.deb filetwo.deb |
| 21:29.35 | abrotman | jaybuffet: yes .. change the numbers |
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| 21:29.46 | abrotman | !parallel boot |
| 21:29.46 | dpkg | from memory, parallel boot is http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-boot.html?ca=dnt-437 |
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| 21:30.52 | en1gma | what version of debian = stable and what version is current? |
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| 21:31.34 | candle | thingfish: it worked, running xchat 2.4.5 now :) |
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| 21:31.54 | tonitee | hi all |
| 21:32.04 | tonitee | i am trying to install msttcorefonts |
| 21:32.07 | candle | tonitee: hello girlfriend |
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| 21:32.16 | tonitee | anyone knwo what repository i need to use? |
| 21:32.35 | pedja | en1gma: stable is stable is sarge, "current" is testing |
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| 21:32.57 | en1gma | i mean as far as revision numbers |
| 21:33.04 | en1gma | r0 and r0a |
| 21:33.08 | tonitee | anyone here from the netherlands? |
| 21:33.22 | thingfish | candle: good to hear it. you could also have used a wildcard to install them both: dpkg -i xchat*.deb |
| 21:33.30 | pedja | en1gma stable is 3.1 |
| 21:33.42 | azeem | en1gma: r0 and r0a are mostly identical, except for a tiny fix. r0a is the current one |
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| 21:33.45 | eck | what's the best way to move a filesystem to a new partition? |
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| 21:33.50 | tonitee | can someone tell me what repository i need to add in synapsis to retrieve and install the msttcorefonts? |
| 21:33.51 | en1gma | yea but there is a 3.1r0 and 3.1r0a |
| 21:33.56 | pmcdonnell | I have two networks - 10.0.0.0/8 and 192.168.0.0/24 . One box is on both networks - 192.168.0.4 / 10.0.0.1 . Is there a way to use that box as a router so that the two networks can talk to eachother? |
| 21:33.58 | eck | i want to create a new partition and have /home mounted on it |
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| 21:34.18 | thingfish | tonitee: add contrib and non-free, it's in one of those. |
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| 21:34.59 | en1gma | like what is 3.1r0 and what is 3.1r0a |
| 21:35.19 | mohkohn | I am having to run alsaconf as root to get sound after every boot. |
| 21:35.32 | en1gma | do you know what i mean |
| 21:35.35 | azeem | en1gma: r0 and r0a are mostly identical, except for a tiny fix. r0a is the current one |
| 21:35.38 | thingfish | en1gma: the difference is like one # in front of a line in sources.list. |
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| 21:35.59 | thingfish | and maybe a word change in that same line. |
| 21:36.03 | tonitee | thingfish i am new to debian. can you please explain what you mean by contrib and non-free |
| 21:36.03 | candle | thingfish: ahh great to know |
| 21:36.19 | en1gma | but 3.1r0a is not current? |
| 21:36.31 | azeem | en1gma: it is current, did you not read what I said? |
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| 21:36.51 | tonitee | thingfish do you have an example? |
| 21:36.54 | thingfish | tonitee: in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you'll have a line similar to deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 21:36.56 | candle | thingfish: dpkg -i xchat*.deb is cettainly easier :) |
| 21:37.02 | en1gma | i read 3.1 is stable and 3.1r0a is a small fix. a small fix shouldnt make it current |
| 21:37.11 | en1gma | alot of big fixes would make it current |
| 21:37.12 | pedja | en1gma: not current as in BSD it' stable |
| 21:37.13 | azeem | en1gma: what? |
| 21:37.17 | tonitee | correct |
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| 21:37.27 | thingfish | tonitee: so all you'd do is open that file as root and add contrib and non-free after main, thusly: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free |
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| 21:37.34 | azeem | en1gma: there is no "current" in the Debian terminology |
| 21:37.37 | thingfish | candle: hehe yes it is. |
| 21:37.44 | en1gma | azeem OOOO |
| 21:37.51 | abrotman | en1gma: 3.1r0a is a slight text modification .. it is the current debian/stable release |
| 21:37.51 | en1gma | that is what is confusing me i think |
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| 21:38.12 | en1gma | is there a current non stable |
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| 21:38.18 | abrotman | !releases |
| 21:38.18 | dpkg | it has been said that releases is see http://debian.org/releases/, or an explanation of the different levels of Debian releases. |
| 21:38.24 | pedja | en1gma: yes, testing |
| 21:38.27 | thingfish | yes really en1gma it's really more of a typo fix than anything. |
| 21:38.29 | en1gma | okie |
| 21:38.33 | thingfish | that's the only difference. |
| 21:38.35 | en1gma | crap i think i dloaded the wrong cds |
| 21:38.37 | en1gma | shiat! |
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| 21:38.40 | tonitee | ok i did that |
| 21:38.52 | thingfish | tonitee: ok so apt-get update |
| 21:39.14 | takatumi | !greetings |
| 21:39.15 | dpkg | hello, takatumi |
| 21:39.16 | thingfish | tonitee: then when it's done, open synaptic and search for msttcorefonts. You'll find it. |
| 21:39.31 | pedja | en1gma: stable is OK. You can dist-upgrade to testing if you want |
| 21:39.46 | tonitee | THANK YOU OH MASTER OF DEBIAN :-) |
| 21:39.53 | en1gma | is dist-upgrade = like a net install |
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| 21:39.58 | en1gma | cause i wont have net yet |
| 21:40.10 | takatumi | en1gma: do you have net now? |
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| 21:40.20 | tonitee | i am just starting with debian and its so cool but lots are not very clear to me |
| 21:40.21 | en1gma | im on windows when i goto linux i wont |
| 21:40.41 | takatumi | en1gma: why not? |
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| 21:40.44 | en1gma | can i get dist-upgrade from windows |
| 21:40.51 | en1gma | cause i have a pda as a modem |
| 21:40.55 | en1gma | its being a biatch |
| 21:40.55 | tonitee | but i fixed most of my first problems today myself so i guess it was a pretty good day to start |
| 21:41.07 | azeem | en1gma: maybe you should read a book about Debian first |
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| 21:41.15 | takatumi | en1gma: why are you dist-upgrading? |
| 21:41.20 | pedja | en1gma: what's wrong with stable. it's not that old |
| 21:41.36 | en1gma | well i just like to be current if possible |
| 21:41.49 | en1gma | but my kernel has to be above 2.6.9 |
| 21:41.51 | en1gma | thats a must |
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| 21:42.12 | takatumi | en1gma: roll your own. |
| 21:42.16 | Morydd | mozilla isn't loading ca-certificates. Is this a package problem or a mozilla problem? |
| 21:42.30 | tonitee | anyone knows a way to add subtitles to downloaded movies? |
| 21:42.31 | pedja | en1gma: this is not BSD, stable is quite ok. you can upgrade kernel with stable too |
| 21:43.01 | en1gma | yea i was gonna upgrade thats ez. but having to get each package will take me alot of time |
| 21:43.36 | en1gma | upgrade kernel* |
| 21:43.42 | tonitee | i had a good tool under windows |
| 21:43.51 | en1gma | but packages = take sometime to do |
| 21:43.52 | takatumi | en1gma: build-essential, kernel-package, fakeroot, linux-source, libncurses5-dev |
| 21:43.52 | tonitee | but windows is not a good tool :-) |
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| 21:44.09 | en1gma | would be nice when i do the install if all packages were pretty close to current |
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| 21:44.28 | hans0lo | tonitee: doesn't mplayer have that ability? |
| 21:44.33 | EdgEy | anyone know why my psp is acting all weird... copying files to it is "trial and error" |
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| 21:44.36 | EdgEy | hardly ever works |
| 21:44.56 | takatumi | EdgEy: do you have debian on it? |
| 21:45.12 | tawfik | Hi people, I was wondering, do you know a program that I could install through apt-get, that will enable me to use .ISO files, and mount them? |
| 21:45.14 | EdgEy | no, but i have debian on the computer copying, and it works fine from windows |
| 21:45.15 | EdgEy | ;) |
| 21:45.21 | tonitee | bye all maybe till next time |
| 21:45.30 | EdgEy | and it's a usb mass storage device afaik so.. |
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| 21:45.44 | takatumi | EdgEy: how are you mounting it? |
| 21:45.50 | blakkino | tawfik you can already mount them |
| 21:46.05 | pedja | en1gma: they allready are (almost) in testing. Stable is as good as it gets. Testing is for playing with new toys |
| 21:46.13 | tawfik | blakkino: can you tell me what the command line would be? |
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| 21:46.31 | tawfik | blakkino: I think the .ISO file was made in Windows, does it still work? |
| 21:46.33 | en1gma | say i want to put all my cats on a seperate partition so i can always install 3.1r0a from there (as its quicker) where would i put the new packages that come out at |
| 21:46.43 | en1gma | in a testing dir? |
| 21:46.45 | xelam | all your cats? |
| 21:46.54 | xelam | cats don't like being kept in computers |
| 21:46.55 | xelam | it's mean |
| 21:46.59 | en1gma | A, AP, K, KDE X etc.. |
| 21:47.09 | xelam | ? |
| 21:47.09 | takatumi | en1gma: what are you trying to do? |
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| 21:47.13 | blakkino | tawfik... how do you mount a cdrom? |
| 21:47.24 | tawfik | mount /mnt/cdrom ? |
| 21:47.25 | hans0lo | xelam: an old AT case made a good house for some kittens. |
| 21:47.26 | azeem | en1gma: so, Debian is totally different to what you used before |
| 21:47.40 | azeem | en1gma: as I said, please read a book about it first |
| 21:47.41 | tawfik | or mount /mnt/cdrom /dev/cdrom0 |
| 21:47.41 | en1gma | azeem yea im thinking so |
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| 21:47.51 | azeem | en1gma: http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 21:48.12 | blakkino | mm.. you do that becose mount configuration file /etc/fstab |
| 21:48.18 | takatumi | en1gma: read debian-reference, it's a good start. |
| 21:48.29 | blakkino | mount /dev/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom doesn't require fstab |
| 21:48.30 | en1gma | i think if someone told me one sentance about how the dir structure is made up. it would prob save me from reading that book |
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| 21:48.38 | en1gma | k ill try the refd |
| 21:48.43 | en1gma | refrence should be good |
| 21:48.45 | jimjam | Hey how can i get a list of sources to stick in sources.list ? |
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| 21:48.51 | blakkino | mount <device or file> <directory> |
| 21:48.51 | blakkino | :) |
| 21:49.01 | Tortel | http://www.warpmod.com/dev/Tortel/debian.png |
| 21:49.06 | Tortel | my gnome desktop |
| 21:49.09 | blakkino | but you need to be root.. or to edit the fstab.. |
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| 21:49.32 | blakkino | (so that non root users can mount a specific iso file) |
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| 21:50.00 | Morydd | I'm running Debian package Mozilla 1.7.11 and any secure site I go to is giving me an Unknown Authority error. Any ideas? |
| 21:50.09 | takatumi | Tortel: what about it? |
| 21:50.17 | Tortel | thats my gnome desktop |
| 21:50.18 | Tortel | :P |
| 21:50.18 | tawfik | blakkino: what should I edit in fstab? |
| 21:50.22 | Tortel | pwetty, right? |
| 21:50.34 | blakkino | tawfik only root can mount stuff |
| 21:50.40 | tawfik | I am root |
| 21:50.44 | pedja | en1gma: try debian reference, look for local repository. easier to mount cd |
| 21:50.56 | blakkino | you should not confuse the role of root and user |
| 21:50.59 | silverton | wtf... Kaffeine on gnome? |
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| 21:51.13 | en1gma | okie thnx |
| 21:51.14 | blakkino | tawfik, you should be root when configuring your computer.. then user when using it |
| 21:51.20 | silverton | and anyhow, mine looks much better ;D |
| 21:51.21 | mitja | hello |
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| 21:51.42 | blakkino | linux used by root is unstable as windows :) |
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| 21:51.52 | tawfik | blakkino: well I can configure my computer whilst being root in terminal |
| 21:51.52 | en1gma | i cant wait to install deb. i been using slack for so long i just want to see something fresh |
| 21:51.55 | mitja | Checking `ifconfig'... INFECTED |
| 21:51.57 | tawfik | I am logged as user now |
| 21:51.59 | mohkohn | Still stuck with this running alsaconf every time I boot. alsactl store is not saving. Anybody else get this. Actually there seem to be a lot of people with this problem on google. |
| 21:51.59 | mitja | how to clean that? |
| 21:52.08 | mohkohn | but no solutions |
| 21:52.08 | Gnea | mitja: mkfs.ext3 |
| 21:52.10 | tawfik | blakkino:but I have root access |
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| 21:52.17 | jorgito | hi |
| 21:52.26 | mitja | gnea? |
| 21:52.26 | jorgito | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.30 | takatumi | en1gma: to feel the true power of debian, you need a net connection, buy a modem or get dsl. |
| 21:52.32 | tawfik | blakkino: tell me what should I add to /etc/fstab |
| 21:52.42 | blakkino | tawfik, if you do 1 error.. your system may be dead :) |
| 21:52.43 | Gnea | mitja: actually, reboot with a different livecd or something with busybox compiled statically and move it and other infected files out of the way |
| 21:52.53 | blakkino | and you can always do this error |
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| 21:53.15 | tawfik | blakkino: I already mounted my USB pendrive, and I edited the /etc/fstab for that, nothing happened |
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| 21:53.26 | tawfik | blakkino:because I got good help |
| 21:53.27 | mitja | any other idea? i'm rkited |
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| 21:53.34 | mitja | some box i have access |
| 21:53.38 | mitja | now i want to clean it |
| 21:53.48 | tawfik | blakkino: so, do you know what I should edit in /etc/fstab? |
| 21:53.50 | Gnea | mitja: like i said. |
| 21:54.11 | blakkino | mm first of all.. you must know how to use the "man" command :) |
| 21:54.15 | blakkino | so man fstab.. :) |
| 21:54.21 | jorgito | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.41 | Gnea | !best |
| 21:54.41 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 21:54.47 | blakkino | then you should edit what you want.. |
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| 21:54.55 | blakkino | and i don't know what you want. |
| 21:55.09 | mitja | Searching for Fu rootkit default files... Possible Fu rootkit installed |
| 21:55.14 | tawfik | blakkino: i have a rather urgent necessity to access that .ISO file, so, all I want to do is mount a .ISO file |
| 21:55.15 | mitja | and how to remove rkit? |
| 21:55.21 | tawfik | blakkino: if that is possible |
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| 21:56.21 | silverton | tawfik, mount -t iso9660 /place/to/iso/image /place/to/mount -o loop |
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| 21:56.26 | Tortel | is the new GNOME supported yet?? |
| 21:56.28 | Tortel | :( |
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| 21:56.36 | silverton | Tortel, "new gnome"? |
| 21:56.37 | silverton | 2.10? |
| 21:56.40 | blakkino | mount /path/to/file.iso /some/other/path -o loop ... |
| 21:56.42 | vladster | A |
| 21:56.43 | Tortel | 2.12 |
| 21:56.44 | vladster | [A |
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| 21:57.37 | mitja | gnea any idea? |
| 21:57.45 | tawfik | silverton: thanks a lot :), that worked |
| 21:57.55 | silverton | tawfik, I knew it would :) |
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| 21:58.13 | shingouz_ | mitja: if you have been pwned, nuke and pave after some forensics is your only real option |
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| 21:58.33 | mitja | i dont understand :) |
| 21:58.44 | shingouz_ | mitja: format and reinstall |
| 21:58.57 | eeyore- | that's a lot of buzzwords ... "nuke" and "pave"? are we talking warfare and road construction or IT work? |
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| 21:59.11 | eeyore- | kids these days |
| 21:59.27 | mitja | i'm debugger |
| 21:59.30 | mitja | wont reinstall :D |
| 21:59.36 | mitja | i want to fix |
| 21:59.38 | mitja | :) |
| 21:59.39 | shingouz_ | eeyore-: when speaking to kids i find it better to use words kids understand |
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| 21:59.41 | thingfish | violence on TV, I tell you. |
| 21:59.45 | mitja | that's the spirit ;) |
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| 22:00.29 | diogenus | :/ |
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| 22:00.47 | eeyore- | mitja: sometimes you can't fix all the possible traps that have been put in place |
| 22:00.49 | shingouz_ | mitja: you cannot trust the system if it has been compromised. pull it off the network, do some forensics and see how the intruder has acessed your computer, proceed to format and reinstall. that is the only safe option you have |
| 22:02.31 | Tortel | I even have my old ubuntu image |
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| 22:02.51 | eeyore- | i keep *windows* image on my linux partition, but that's just me |
| 22:02.53 | Thanatermesis | /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 22:03.05 | Thanatermesis | Error: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_fastcgi.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_fastcgi.so: undefined symbol: unixd_config |
| 22:03.12 | shingouz_ | windows? ubuntu? next you say os/2? ;) |
| 22:03.18 | eeyore- | putting linux images on windows partition seems odd |
| 22:03.22 | Tortel | i also have them on my dads comp |
| 22:03.42 | Tortel | chances are ill kill debian cause i use it 90% of the time |
| 22:03.45 | shingouz_ | very odd. i do not see how doze would survive longer than linux |
| 22:03.54 | Thanatermesis | I trying to set up the "trac"... this needs the "fastcgi" lib.... |
| 22:04.03 | mohkohn | I am getting these wierd notify administrator messages when I su.... |
| 22:04.12 | mohkohn | http://www.debianhelp.org/module-pnForum-viewtopic-topic-10048-start-0.html |
| 22:04.38 | mohkohn | I pasted to www.debianhelp.org so as not to flood.... |
| 22:04.45 | mohkohn | Any way to stop them? |
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| 22:06.09 | jimjam | Hey how can i get a list of sources to stick in sources.list ? |
| 22:06.24 | thingfish | jimjam: apt-setup |
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| 22:06.41 | Thanatermesis | any idea ? :/ |
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| 22:07.16 | jimjam | Thanks thingfish. you know where resolver information goes? |
| 22:07.42 | thingfish | resolver information? |
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| 22:08.10 | shingouz_ | jimjam: /etc/resolv.conf perhaps? |
| 22:08.10 | jimjam | yeah like dns servers to use |
| 22:08.28 | jimjam | ahh i looked for that, didnt see it, thought maby debian used something else |
| 22:08.30 | shingouz_ | jimjam: man resolv.conf |
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| 22:11.31 | ma3x | how can i select part of the image in gimp? |
| 22:11.44 | tawfik | btw, how can I modify the partitioning of my hardrive? |
| 22:12.02 | tawfik | I want to reduce the size that linux uses |
| 22:12.07 | tawfik | how do I do that? |
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| 22:12.12 | scx | hello: someone may help me? : I have an hdb on my machine and booted a remote machine with knoppix |
| 22:12.38 | scx | what I want is to clone the hdb in my machine to the HD in the remote machine |
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| 22:13.22 | amphi | scx: rsync? |
| 22:13.23 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 22:13.25 | scx | I guess using nfs... anyway... someone help me, I don't know exactly how to |
| 22:13.29 | solemnwarning | i have the nvidia drivers installed |
| 22:13.37 | yoo | Somebody can help me ? |
| 22:13.40 | solemnwarning | but whenever i install udev they break |
| 22:13.43 | shingouz_ | !tell scx about cp hd to hd |
| 22:13.43 | scx | amphi: to clone? |
| 22:13.48 | donw | sxc: Rsync, or ssh/afio. |
| 22:13.50 | solemnwarning | how can i install udev without breaking nvidia? |
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| 22:14.08 | scx | I guess using DD or partimage |
| 22:14.15 | amphi | scx: rsync will preserve ownership and permissions |
| 22:14.28 | yoo | apt-get install xdtv-dev xdtv |
| 22:14.34 | yoo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 22:14.42 | yoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.43 | scx | amphi: how do I do that ? |
| 22:14.49 | shingouz_ | scx: tar, rsync, cp, scp... |
| 22:14.58 | ArtistAgent | god im hungry but nothing in particular sounds good any ideas? |
| 22:15.10 | shingouz_ | ArtistAgent: food? |
| 22:15.13 | tawfik | Ok, so, how do I repartition my drive without losing data? |
| 22:15.14 | ArtistAgent | :) |
| 22:15.22 | scx | :( Seriously ... |
| 22:15.27 | Gnea | ArtistAgent: just rip your foot off and start chowing |
| 22:15.31 | DrZoot | scx: what about the network block device, lets you use a remote drive through the network |
| 22:15.44 | shingouz_ | scx: i already told you about four different options |
| 22:15.54 | ArtistAgent | ha ha Gnea good idea :) |
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| 22:16.10 | donw | scx: Ok, so you're sitting on the console of the machine you booted with Knoppix, and you want to mirror the hard drive from another machine onto the machine you're sitting at? |
| 22:16.12 | ArtistAgent | probably taste better than a Town Pump Hot Dog |
| 22:16.13 | shingouz_ | ArtistAgent: thai food perhaps? |
| 22:16.32 | ArtistAgent | oooh thai havent had that in a while good idea shingouz |
| 22:16.42 | ArtistAgent | that does sound really good |
| 22:16.49 | shingouz_ | !tell scx about onedisktoanother |
| 22:16.52 | scx | DrZoot: it gave me an idea... |
| 22:16.55 | tawfik | How do I repartition my HardDrive without losing data? |
| 22:17.03 | shingouz_ | ArtistAgent: thai is good, that is true |
| 22:17.14 | scx | but it's not usefull in this case 'cause of this machine is ging far from me |
| 22:17.25 | shingouz_ | scx: ssh into it then |
| 22:17.35 | thingfish | I am cooking chicken with homemade noodles. |
| 22:17.43 | scx | hey ... I may just use dd and plug both drives in my machine... but |
| 22:17.54 | scx | shingouz_: done |
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| 22:18.25 | scx | donw: yes |
| 22:18.36 | scx | donw: copy it |
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| 22:18.50 | shingouz_ | scx: you should also read what dpkg told you... two different factoids about how to clone the system |
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| 22:19.03 | ArtistAgent | thai it is then thanks be back later |
| 22:19.04 | Guerin | tawfik: back up the data first. |
| 22:19.20 | tawfik | Guerin: what should I use? partimage? |
| 22:19.30 | Thanatermesis | Syntax error on line 23 of /etc/apache/modules.conf: |
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| 22:19.36 | Thanatermesis | any idea ? |
| 22:19.48 | Guerin | tawfik: no, just back up the data. Not the partition. Use cp, tar or rsync. |
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| 22:21.02 | tawfik | should I back-up all the " / " |
| 22:21.03 | tawfik | ? |
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| 22:21.38 | mohkohn | Why doesn't alsactl store work? |
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| 22:24.54 | Guerin | tawfik: back up what you want to keep. |
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| 22:25.08 | elnath | greetings to all |
| 22:25.21 | mohkohn | Found this in Archlinux wiki " Edit '/etc/rc.conf' and add 'alsa' to the list of daemons to start on bootup" |
| 22:25.42 | mohkohn | Thats not the debian way. How would I do this in debian? |
| 22:26.06 | Frem | mohkohn: It's a ton more complicated. I just switched from Arch myself. :-) |
| 22:26.29 | Frem | I haven't quite figure it out either. |
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| 22:28.01 | mohkohn | The sound is great. I just have to alsaconf as root each time. A bit much in 2005 |
| 22:28.03 | jim | mohkohn: oh, one way is to use modconf to set the modules that come up... basically 2.6 kernels have alsa in the kernel, so they come in on their own for most sound cards (default debian kernel), and then you would somehow pick the modules |
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| 22:28.29 | jim | it's the same amount of work in 2005 as it was in 2004 :P |
| 22:29.04 | jim | but if you arrange the appropriate modules to be loaded at boot, your sound should work every boot |
| 22:29.16 | mohkohn | jim...that sounds good. I hate to say it on #debian but I don't have to do this at all on this laptop with ubuntu |
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| 22:29.46 | jim | maybe ubuntu and debian use the same thing; not sure |
| 22:29.58 | jim | maybe not; I never tried it myself |
| 22:30.23 | Blissex | mohkohn: two distributions with rather different goals... |
| 22:30.31 | Frem | ubuntu is much more automated. |
| 22:30.43 | Wyzard | Ubuntu just configures more stuff by default |
| 22:30.49 | Wyzard | Once configured, it's not much different |
| 22:30.52 | jim | but one thing is for sure... it's helpful to understand the hardware and something about the drivers (enough for example to be able to load them and feed them correct or at least meaningful params) |
| 22:30.56 | mohkohn | Its supposed to be the same installer...but its not. I have respect for both. I am keen to run debian though. |
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| 22:31.52 | jim | this is true no matter what os you run... because it's been seen again and again, that aggressive hardware detection can possibly fail on some machines, sometimes to the point of locking until reset |
| 22:31.55 | Wyzard | /etc/init.d/alsa-utils (from the "alsa-utils" package) runs alsactl at startup and shutdown |
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| 22:32.13 | bgj | is it possible to simplt replace a kernel with the same version but compiled for a different architecture, in order to transfer the hard-disk to another machine? |
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| 22:32.32 | jim | Wyzard: how is alsactl and alsaconf related? |
| 22:32.32 | Frem | jim: I've got two cdrom drives mandrake 9 erased the firmware on autoprobing them. ^_^ |
| 22:32.59 | jim | Frem: hmm, that's worse than just a lockup |
| 22:33.10 | Wyzard | jim: alsaconf is a tool for setting up module aliases, but I think it's deprecated |
| 22:33.37 | Wyzard | jim: All you need to do is put the name of the appropriate driver module (snd-emu10k1 for an SB Live! or Audigy, etc.) in /etc/modules |
| 22:33.58 | jim | hmm, how do you go about configuring alsa these days? me, I just figured out which module to load for the basic stuff and loaded stuff on top and it seems to work... but that was such a process to figure out |
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| 22:34.11 | Wyzard | jim: alsactl is a tool for configuring cards once their modules have been loaded -- most notably, loading and saving mixer settings |
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| 22:34.24 | jim | aha |
| 22:34.28 | jim | I see |
| 22:34.33 | Wyzard | AFAIK, all that's needed is to load the driver module, then run alsamixer and unmute the volume controls |
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| 22:34.51 | Wyzard | When you shut down, the mixer settings will be saved to disk, and restored when you boot |
| 22:35.23 | jim | is there a debian interface (or something...) for doing the initial autodetection and load of the appropriate device driver? |
| 22:35.25 | Wyzard | Ubuntu does that during installation; Debian doesn't, but it's still the same thing |
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| 22:35.40 | Wyzard | Possibly, but I don't know of one |
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| 22:35.46 | Wyzard | Just use lspci to see what kind of sound card you have |
| 22:35.49 | jim | so that's why ubuntu is "easier" |
| 22:36.07 | Wyzard | Well, "discover" will automatically scan your hardware at boot time and load driver modules |
| 22:36.08 | jim | well I'm asking so I can help effectively |
| 22:36.21 | jim | it's helpful if I don't have to guess :P |
| 22:36.22 | Wyzard | It loads snd-emu10k1 for me |
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| 22:36.46 | mohkohn | I am trying jim solution first. rebooting |
| 22:36.54 | Wyzard | Debian (and Ubuntu too, I think) installs "discover1" by default, which is an older version... "discover" is more current |
| 22:36.55 | StevenR-laptop | how do i allow privilaged X apps to run over ssh? su -c synaptic just says: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. |
| 22:37.22 | Frem | Though, for autodetection, Debian's hotplug works pretty good with my notebook cards. It set up my xircom modem and connected to the net automatically as soon as I plugged it in the first time. |
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| 22:37.27 | jim | StevenR-laptop: you'd have to be able to ssh into your box as root |
| 22:37.38 | Wyzard | discover works fine for me too |
| 22:37.50 | StevenR-laptop | jim: you mean allow root logins? |
| 22:38.04 | Nemoder | is there a gui equiv of 'dpkg -i custom.deb' ? |
| 22:38.07 | jim | well, that is dangerous to a degree :) |
| 22:38.23 | Fluten | when i type "setxkbmap dvorak", debian says "Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property" "Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'" "*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x40015cc0 ***" |
| 22:38.31 | jim | but it's one way to go about it... and you could restrict that to just localhost or localnet |
| 22:38.32 | Fluten | and then after that, it leaves me with the us layout |
| 22:38.34 | StevenR-laptop | jim: I modified the sshd_config to not allow root logins over ssh |
| 22:38.44 | Fluten | i recently did an apt-get dist-upgrade, and it stopped working after that |
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| 22:39.04 | Wyzard | Sounds like a bug |
| 22:39.09 | jim | then you would have to do certain things manually, and I'm not sure the whole process |
| 22:39.59 | Wyzard | jim: Or just give root an appropriate xauth key... SSH doesn't need to be involved at all |
| 22:40.09 | tawfik | Guerin: so after I have archived all those files, what do I do next? |
| 22:40.31 | jim | right, that;s what I was thinking... Wyzard, how would he do that? |
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| 22:40.46 | abrotman | Wyzard: xenogears! |
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| 22:40.58 | Guerin | tawfik: after you've backed up everything you need to back up, partition your drive. you'll lose all the data on it, and will have to restore from your backup. |
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| 22:41.15 | Fluten | how could i get it to switch to dvorak? its very annoying to type on qwerty |
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| 22:41.25 | tawfik | well, I've backed it up(around 7.8 GB) where do I put now, so that it won't get lost? |
| 22:41.26 | abrotman | dork |
| 22:41.27 | Fluten | could libc be broken again? it stopped working 3 days ago, and i had to fix it |
| 22:41.38 | Wyzard | jim: I don't remember the exact syntax of the xauth command offhand, but basically, run it as a normal user to extract the key for display :0 to a file, then as root, import from that file |
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| 22:41.51 | tawfik | Guerin:well, I've backed it up(around 7.8 GB) where do I put now, so that it won't get lost? |
| 22:42.08 | jim | Wyzard: and both of those are invocations of xauth? |
| 22:42.10 | Guerin | tawfik: on some medium you're not going to repartition. |
| 22:42.14 | Wyzard | jim: yes |
| 22:42.22 | [Cadet] | Great |
| 22:42.26 | tawfik | ok, so, how do I know what medium I am not going to repartition? |
| 22:42.32 | jim | ok, that's enough info for him |
| 22:43.24 | Fluten | could xorg of been installed? it mentons of it in the error, but i can't find an xorg.conf file anywhere |
| 22:43.27 | Wyzard | jim: There's a package called "sux" which I think does exactly that automatically, but I haven't used it |
| 22:43.48 | tawfik | Guerin: ok, so, how do I know what medium I am not going to repartition? |
| 22:43.55 | jim | StevenR-laptop: so the other approach involves xauth as Wyzard has described. neither of us know the exact syntax... but: you can get it from man xauth, and xauth is in debian package xbase-clients |
| 22:44.01 | Wyzard | jim: It has the advantage that it'll work for any display, though -- if you happen to start another server on :1 at some point, you don't have to worry about remembering to transfer the key for that as well |
| 22:44.11 | Guerin | tawfik: you're too stupid for this. Take your computer in to a shop and ask them to repartition it for you. |
| 22:44.12 | Wyzard | StevenR: apt-cache show sux |
| 22:44.48 | StevenR-laptop | Wyzard: ooo...that's worth an install |
| 22:44.53 | Wyzard | Guerin: But one doesn't learn that way :-) |
| 22:45.12 | tawfik | Guerin: I am a newbie in Linux, don't go around calling people you have never actually met or known stupid, just because they are not sure how to use an operating system they have installed 2-3 days before. |
| 22:45.40 | jim | yeah, we;re biased towards learning... since if people learn something they have less to ask next time :) |
| 22:45.48 | abrotman | jim: what? |
| 22:45.52 | Wyzard | tawfik: Independently of Linux, you need to be aware of what drives you have and which one it is that you want to repartition |
| 22:46.05 | jim | where? |
| 22:46.16 | SirPsycho | give a man a fish and feed him for a day.. teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime =) |
| 22:46.28 | Wyzard | tawfik: We can help you with using Linux to put things on the drives you want, but not with the particular configuration of your computer which only you know |
| 22:46.28 | abrotman | !fish |
| 22:46.28 | dpkg | from memory, fish is FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or http://edulinux.homeunix.org/fish.html |
| 22:46.32 | Guerin | tawfik: the point is that you're asking how YOU would know which drives you're touching and which not. How would *I* know that? And if YOU don't know it, you shouldn't be touching ANY drives. |
| 22:46.33 | Frem | tawfik: Google around for some info. There are countless guides on the internet about this, including many written for for Debian. |
| 22:46.42 | Phated | Make a fire for a man and warm him for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. |
| 22:46.44 | jim | teach a man to fish and he'll drink beers on the boat all day |
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| 22:46.55 | abrotman | !tell rodrigo about root |
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| 22:47.09 | stew | abrotman: i think the bots already tell them |
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| 22:47.20 | jim | is root@ still quieted? |
| 22:47.26 | stew | jim: yes |
| 22:47.26 | Guerin | jim: yes. |
| 22:47.27 | tawfik | Wyzard: how do I get a list of the drives that I have?, I mean, I have one 40gb drives, and during installation I selected automatic partitioning. |
| 22:47.33 | abrotman | stew: try it .. last i tried . .they didn't |
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| 22:47.50 | stew | tawfik: "fdisk -l" will list known partitions |
| 22:47.51 | jim | a brave soul you are too :) |
| 22:47.59 | mohkohn | Is there a way to run alsaconf at boot? Put it in bootmisc.sh? |
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| 22:48.06 | stew | abrotman: are you trying to get me to irc as root so you can haxxor me again? |
| 22:48.15 | Nemoder | Are there any GUI apps that will open a custom .deb file? |
| 22:48.18 | Wyzard | tawfik: You'll want to put your backup somewhere other than that 40GB drive... if you don't have any other drives in that computer, you'll need to transfer it to another computer or burn it to DVDs or something |
| 22:48.34 | Wyzard | mohkohn: Why do you want to run alsaconf at boot time? |
| 22:48.36 | Frem | stew: "again"? |
| 22:48.43 | jim | mohkohn: if you do lsmod after booting, does it show your module for your sound card/ |
| 22:48.43 | mohkohn | Sorry dumb question. Won't work. |
| 22:48.44 | abrotman | bah .. fucking 'root' factoid is locked |
| 22:48.45 | StevenR-laptop | Wyzard: jim: still refuses to allow X11 forwarding as sux'd or su'd |
| 22:49.05 | Fluten | sometimes, debian says "unable to create `./lib/libsysfs.so.1.0.3': Too many levels of symbolic links", it used to just quit after it said that, but now it's just continuing. could it possibly not be creating that file, and just skipping it? |
| 22:49.10 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:49.14 | abrotman | !root denial |
| 22:49.14 | dpkg | If it looks like duck, quacks like a duck, but gives 'root' as an IDENT, you're IRCing as root. |
| 22:49.19 | Guerin | tawfik: if you only have one drive, you need to find someplace else to back your shit up before messing about with the partition table. |
| 22:49.25 | jim | it sux to be sud |
| 22:49.33 | abrotman | !root again |
| 22:49.33 | dpkg | WHAT?? You're *still* IRC'ing as root!? |
| 22:49.38 | mohkohn | I'll have to reboot. Just did alsconf already back in a tick |
| 22:49.38 | Guerin | tawfik: ie: another drive, cds, dvdss, another computer... |
| 22:49.44 | abrotman | !ircroot |
| 22:49.44 | dpkg | hmm... ircroot is IRC as root, and unleash the wrath of the Almighty! |
| 22:49.53 | en1gma | im still kind of confused about how debian works. ex: slack 10.2 stable = comparable to debian 3.1 stable. now with slack current what does that = in debian |
| 22:49.55 | StevenR-laptop | Wyzard: jim: X11 forwarding works as user though |
| 22:50.02 | tawfik | Guerin: I am learning, that doesn't makes me stupid |
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| 22:50.12 | abrotman | en1gma: i explained this to you .. an hour ago |
| 22:50.14 | abrotman | !releases |
| 22:50.15 | dpkg | hmm... releases is see http://debian.org/releases/, or an explanation of the different levels of Debian releases. |
| 22:50.20 | abrotman | en1gma: read ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:50.23 | nvz | I am having some serious network problems :-/ |
| 22:50.33 | abrotman | nvz: that's not the least of it |
| 22:50.36 | Blissex | en1gma: try to roget about 'stable', 'testing' and 'unstable', they are just levels/states. |
| 22:50.39 | abrotman | nvz: how are the girls across the street ? |
| 22:50.45 | nvz | heh |
| 22:50.47 | nvz | ass |
| 22:50.49 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:50.52 | en1gma | abrotman thats not explaining like u said. thats just pointing me to a link that explains it |
| 22:51.05 | abrotman | and it STILL EXPLAINS IT |
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| 22:51.13 | Blissex | en1gma: it is much better to think in terms of the proper names/editions of Debian, like Sarge or Etch or Sid currently. |
| 22:51.14 | nvz | they as well as their mom and dad still love me and cant decide which one wants me more |
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| 22:51.21 | en1gma | [18:51] <abrotman> en1gma: i explained this to you .. an hour ago |
| 22:51.23 | en1gma | lie |
| 22:51.24 | abrotman | nvz: probably the dad |
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| 22:51.29 | stew | abrotman: y won't u read it for him? |
| 22:51.29 | abrotman | en1gma: i most certainly did |
| 22:51.34 | en1gma | :P |
| 22:51.43 | en1gma | i reading |
| 22:51.45 | en1gma | :) |
| 22:51.48 | abrotman | stew: my mom won't let me help blind people cross the street either |
| 22:51.48 | en1gma | btw thnx for link |
| 22:51.50 | en1gma | again |
| 22:51.55 | nvz | abrotman: you can have him I live with the house full of girls. |
| 22:51.58 | Guerin | tawfik: the problem here is not that you don't understand debian. the problem is that you don't know what's going on inside your own computer, even at the most basic level of "what hardware do I have?". You're probably too new at this to repartition your machine, so I reckon you'd be wisest to seek help from someone who's confident enough to do it. |
| 22:52.29 | mo1991 | if I want to compile the source of valknut into a .deb package - do I use the kpkg command? |
| 22:52.33 | en1gma | why does debian add nick names to releases? should it just go by the version number |
| 22:52.45 | azeem | en1gma: why not? |
| 22:52.48 | abrotman | because geeks like codewords |
| 22:52.54 | talisein_ | Anybody here every ran into a grub error 25? |
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| 22:52.56 | Frem | tawfik: or even start with a different linux distribution. Debain is probably not what you should be running if you don't know what your setup is. |
| 22:52.57 | en1gma | true |
| 22:52.58 | en1gma | :) |
| 22:52.59 | nvz | seriously though.. I cant do anything useful other then resolve hostnames and send and recieve ICMP packets without disabling my NAT and connecting directly.. had to turn off my bridge, nat, samba, ssh..etc just to get here :P |
| 22:53.04 | mohkohn | jim i810_audio 37012 0 |
| 22:53.10 | azeem | en1gma: read the Debian history if you want to have a more accurate answer |
| 22:53.25 | nvz | shit worked fine until around 3pm when I left here |
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| 22:53.40 | abrotman | nvz: then you ate spicy food ? |
| 22:53.50 | nvz | abrotman: no I had some vegetable soup |
| 22:54.00 | tawfik | Guerin: I am windowz user, I just switched to Linux, I have been using the computer for at least 6 years now, the computer I am using, I assembled from scratch by myself, but the knowledge that windows requires is far less than the knowledge linux requires, at least I am trying |
| 22:54.20 | mohkohn | snd 56260 9 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pc |
| 22:54.42 | Cyano-Mobile | tawfik: how many hard drives do you have? |
| 22:54.45 | stew | talisein_: 25 : Disk read error - This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to probe or read data from a particular disk. |
| 22:54.53 | en1gma | ok here is what im not getting. ex: slack has a dir called /current on servers. now say a new kde gets released they put it in that dir and it becomes current. same thing with any other package thats released it gets put in current. u can dload any of the catagories in /current dir and u will have the very current release. now how do i do that with debian |
| 22:54.58 | foo | laptop:/home/foo# alsamixer |
| 22:54.58 | foo | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 22:55.05 | foo | Anyone have any ideas on why I am getting that? |
| 22:55.12 | azeem | en1gma: you use apt-get |
| 22:55.18 | mohkohn | But I am only playing a Simon and Garfunkel song..."the sound of silence" |
| 22:55.25 | Wyzard | foo: Sounds like maybe you don't have the dright driver module loaded for your sound card |
| 22:55.25 | tawfik | Cyano-Mobile: I've figuredout what I have to do, anyways, thanks for asking... |
| 22:55.26 | en1gma | where is debians /current files kept |
| 22:55.27 | azeem | en1gma: or a graphical frontend to it |
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| 22:55.29 | talisein_ | stew: Yup. What's odd is that Sarge installs fine, and even running grub manually finds (hd0) |
| 22:55.30 | abrotman | en1gma: you're completely missing how debian/stable works |
| 22:55.32 | Thanatermesis | Starting web server: Apache2apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.150 for ServerName |
| 22:55.33 | azeem | en1gma: there are none |
| 22:55.35 | litage | syslog is set to write to a pipe. since syslog starts very early on, nothing is reading from the pipe yet. later on, mysql starts reading from the pipe, but by that time, it seems as though syslog isn't writing to the pipe anymore. any ideas on how to solve this? |
| 22:55.40 | azeem | en1gma: read the documentation, please |
| 22:55.49 | en1gma | azeem i wont have apt-get when i go to install linux |
| 22:55.51 | Wyzard | en1gma: That corresponds roughly to the "testing" or "unstable" branches of Debian |
| 22:55.54 | azeem | en1gma: and forget everything you know about Slackware |
| 22:55.57 | en1gma | i need to get those dir before i install |
| 22:56.01 | azeem | en1gma: why? |
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| 22:56.04 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 22:56.12 | Wyzard | en1gma: which are available for you to use if you want, but both have tradeoffs that you should understand |
| 22:56.14 | abrotman | just give him sid .. he'll shoot himself in the foot .. and go back to slackj |
| 22:56.19 | stew | talisein_: when do you get the error? |
| 22:56.21 | en1gma | because my pda will not function as a modem till i update |
| 22:56.27 | en1gma | thats why i have to get updates first |
| 22:56.27 | azeem | en1gma: huh? |
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| 22:56.38 | abrotman | and i'd guess by his IDENT .. we've been trolled |
| 22:56.52 | Cyano-Mobile | tawfik: If you have only one hard drive I hope you backup onto another computer or cd's. fdisk can really mess things up even when done properly |
| 22:56.55 | talisein_ | Rebooting after installation, it says "Loading Grub stage 1.5" sits for too long, then says "Loading grub.." then sits for a few minutes, then gives the error msg |
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| 22:57.22 | stew | talisein_: have you ever been able to boot with grub on this disk? |
| 22:57.28 | en1gma | i have a audiovox XV6600 pda and i tether it to my box now when i run an app on the pda that puts it in modem mode linux will not recognize it unless everything is current basically |
| 22:57.36 | talisein_ | stew: nope, just got the disc & controller today |
| 22:57.42 | en1gma | thats why i need to get everything first then go install debian |
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| 22:57.50 | stew | talisein_: try lilo maybe? |
| 22:57.59 | Wyzard | en1gma: The PDA has no sense of whether "everything is current"... do you know what specific version of which specific program is required? |
| 22:58.10 | stew | en1gma: debian might not be the distribution for you then |
| 22:58.15 | jim | lilo: haveyou been tried??! |
| 22:58.15 | Frem | talisein_: I've had that happen to me. I just reinstalled grub and it worked. |
| 22:58.22 | foo | Wyzard: hola. Hmm, I used alsaconf to select the module |
| 22:58.29 | en1gma | Wyzard oh yes it does. certain kernels will only work. certain bluetooth stacks. certain kde apps |
| 22:58.33 | abrotman | jim: who? |
| 22:58.43 | jim | LILO! |
| 22:58.45 | talisein_ | Frem: I've reinstalled now 4 times, so I'll I'm trying lilo ;) |
| 22:58.50 | azeem | en1gma: so why don't you keep on using Slackware? |
| 22:58.52 | dark_side[ZzZz] | Hi guys , Anyone knows which version of Debian should i download to install on a AMD64 box ? |
| 22:58.56 | jim | err, lilo :) |
| 22:59.01 | abrotman | !tell dark_side[ZzZz] about amd64 |
| 22:59.05 | Wyzard | en1gma: Then, in plural: do you know which specific versions of which specific programs are required? |
| 22:59.06 | abrotman | jim: but .. he's not talking here |
| 22:59.10 | en1gma | i want to use debian cause there is more BT support as far as precompiled binaries |
| 22:59.18 | abrotman | wtf |
| 22:59.19 | azeem | BT? |
| 22:59.22 | abrotman | bittorrent |
| 22:59.23 | talisein_ | bittorrent? |
| 22:59.26 | tawfik | Cyano-Mobile: I am backing up on another computer through the network |
| 22:59.27 | en1gma | and it seems everyone supports debian and redhat more then any other disto |
| 22:59.38 | azeem | en1gma: if you want to use Debian, read a book about it |
| 22:59.40 | talisein_ | there are no other distros. ;) |
| 22:59.40 | abrotman | British Telecom > |
| 22:59.41 | abrotman | ? |
| 22:59.45 | Cyano-Mobile | tawfik: :) |
| 22:59.46 | abrotman | !ig |
| 22:59.46 | dpkg | well, ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 22:59.46 | dark_side[ZzZz] | abrotman: thanks a lot ! |
| 22:59.55 | azeem | en1gma: we certainly do not reccomend that newcomers use it on their PDAas |
| 23:00.01 | Wyzard | en1gma: The best BitTorrent client IMO is Azureus, which is Java and will run on any distribution |
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| 23:00.21 | nvz | ok well I have a traceroute to google.com when my nat was on and the 1st hop shows 1) * * * and then hop 16) shows * 216.239.48.110 (216.239.48.110) 33.922 MS..blah |
| 23:00.22 | abrotman | i really think he's trolling you guys |
| 23:00.33 | stew | abrotman: he's not, i've dealt with him before |
| 23:00.35 | abrotman | circular nonsensical arguments |
| 23:00.43 | stew | should we axe the woody ig from that factoid? |
| 23:00.55 | abrotman | stew: not while it's still supported via security i guess |
| 23:00.58 | nvz | thats the only thing I can figure out.. still reaches and pings google.com and even resolves the host name.. but I cannot browse the web, connect to irc or anything when NAT is on anymore |
| 23:01.14 | talisein_ | nvz: are you usinga linksys router? |
| 23:01.18 | stew | abrotman: should anyone be installing it though? |
| 23:01.21 | Nemoder | Is there a GUI app that will open a custom .deb file and prompt for install or view contents? |
| 23:01.24 | petemc | nvz: try tcpdump |
| 23:01.31 | abrotman | stew: if you have a 386 with 16MB ... yeah :) |
| 23:01.38 | nvz | talisein_: Motorola Surfboard Gateway SBG900 modem/wireless/router |
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| 23:04.30 | Wyzard | Nemoder: There are a few, but installing them should be enough of an uncommon occurrence that opening a shell isn't much of a big deal |
| 23:04.31 | smacnay | Wyzard: just running 'make menuconfig' crashes. I can compile mplayer cvs, ffmpeg, and lots of other apps. |
| 23:04.45 | abrotman | apt: your network connection sucks |
| 23:05.00 | petemc | nvz: reset it, or upgrade/reinstall firmware |
| 23:05.32 | nvz | petemc: hmm. last I checked there were no new upgrades.. but maybe a full factory reset might help. |
| 23:05.41 | nvz | petemc: I dont think it can be flashed. |
| 23:05.48 | Wyzard | smacnay: Just tried it out... menuconfig runs just fine in Debian's linux-source-2.6.12 tree on an up-to-date sid system |
| 23:05.53 | nvz | petemc: doesnt have a upload thingy on the configuration |
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| 23:06.43 | smacnay | Wyzard: I get the vanilla kernels from kernel.org. Maybe I should use the debian source kernels and try. |
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| 23:07.11 | Wyzard | smacnay: I'd be surprised if there was a difference, but it's worth a try |
| 23:07.20 | nvz | petemc: only thing I know that changed today is ISP is doing routine maint. but it still works without NAT I dont know wtf they could have possibly changed that prevents my router from working now. |
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| 23:08.24 | Cyano-Mobile | nvz: do you have a modem router combined unit from your isp? |
| 23:08.42 | stew | smacnay: i've built 2.6.12 from both debian and vanilla sources recently without incident fwiw |
| 23:09.00 | JimBowen | Hello all. I was wondering if anyone here knows how to include hidden files in a bash glob? |
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| 23:09.14 | stew | go sox |
| 23:09.20 | nvz | Cyano-Mobile: its not from the ISP but yes its a SBG900 has Modem, Gateway, Wirless all in one. the wirless, firewall and NAT is turned off right now |
| 23:09.21 | Tortel | soxxX |
| 23:09.22 | cureless | JimBowen: .*? |
| 23:09.25 | smacnay | strange. |
| 23:09.35 | smacnay | Well, I can use 3.3.6 so I will for now. |
| 23:09.54 | Wyzard | JimBowen: I've done that before so I know it's possible, but I don't remember how, unfortunately |
| 23:09.59 | jim | \JimBowen: .* sounds resaonable... what if you echoed .* |
| 23:10.09 | jim | in order to test |
| 23:10.11 | talisein_ | Okays, anyone ever seen LILO Error: Duplicated Volume ID? |
| 23:10.14 | Cyano-Mobile | nvz: have you tried to reset it? |
| 23:10.24 | Wyzard | JimBowen: I think it was done either by setting a certain shell variable, or by running a builtin shell command |
| 23:10.28 | jim | you'd probably get . and .. |
| 23:10.32 | jim | as well |
| 23:10.33 | Wyzard | JimBowen: Be careful of using ".*" -- that'll get "." and ".." |
| 23:10.41 | JimBowen | yes you do get . and .. |
| 23:10.45 | JimBowen | don't want them |
| 23:10.51 | cureless | JimBowen: .[^.]* |
| 23:10.58 | streuner | talisein_: check out package lilo-doc |
| 23:11.07 | caphuso | JimBowen: shopt -s dotglob |
| 23:11.15 | nvz | Cyano-Mobile: reset it many times going back and forth from NAT and no-NAT modes and even had powercycled it before that.. I havent given it a HARD-reset to factory default settings yet as nobody fucked with the settings since its stopped working |
| 23:11.24 | Wyzard | That's what it was |
| 23:11.32 | nvz | Cyano-Mobile: though stranger things have happened, and I guess its worth a try |
| 23:11.53 | smacnay | weird, now it works... |
| 23:11.59 | smacnay | off to work. |
| 23:12.42 | Cyano-Mobile | nvz: i had to do that to my belkin router to get it working at one time |
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| 23:12.49 | nvz | I do know this thing is a royal PIMA :P |
| 23:13.40 | jim | pin in michael anthony? |
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| 23:13.42 | JimBowen | cureless: ls .[^.]* * worked. Thanks! |
| 23:13.43 | nvz | I had just a week ago assigned everyone static IP leases and shit.. its aggrivating to have to put all MAC IDs, back in the MAC List, also in the DHCP lease list, and then configure wireless information and such |
| 23:13.57 | caphuso | JimBowen: unless you have files named "...foo", of course |
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| 23:14.14 | nvz | oh well, I might as well try the HARD-reset and let it clear out all my fucking settings. hopefully it just works (tm) |
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| 23:14.38 | Wyzard | nvz: I use a Debian box as my router -- it's much more configurable, and behaves nicely :-) |
| 23:14.46 | jim | well you could include |
| 23:15.14 | nvz | Wyzard: yeah well, I have my own bridge for my wired end of the network which is 100% debian.. but the windows clients are all wireless |
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| 23:15.24 | cureless | caphuso: ok, .??* .[^.] |
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| 23:15.54 | Wyzard | nvz: You can disable the DHCP-server and routing features of a "wireless router" appliance, and use it as an ordinary access point |
| 23:16.15 | nvz | Wyzard: its the modem too. |
| 23:16.26 | Wyzard | nvz: Ah... nevermind, you'd need to get a separate modem |
| 23:16.30 | caphuso | cureless: yeah, that's the "official" solution |
| 23:16.40 | JimBowen | .??* gets them all. :) |
| 23:16.44 | jim | so the second thing would give you every two char seq beginning with . but not ending with it |
| 23:16.46 | nvz | Wyzard: yeah its fuckin stupid :P |
| 23:16.55 | cureless | JimBowen: we know that's likely to happen, we're just being anal. |
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| 23:17.16 | caphuso | JimBowen: not a file named ".X" |
| 23:17.17 | en1gmaa | from what i see slackware /current = debian /unstable. i determined this by looking at the version numbers of the packages. now what i would like to know is if i was running slackware /current would i get the same stability as if i was running debian /unstable |
| 23:17.19 | talisein_ | So is it me or is security.debian.org starved for bandwidth lately? |
| 23:17.40 | dogmeat | folks, any way to get gnome working through common ports? some ports are blocked, e.g. 6000. if i could send gnome window manager via say 8080, then maybe i could get my desktop remotely. is this possible? |
| 23:17.50 | azeem | en1gmaa: how do we know? Most of us here never used Slackware |
| 23:17.51 | nvz | oh well I am going to clear out the settings and see what happens.. hopefully when I return my router and bridge will be up again. |
| 23:17.52 | JimBowen | cheers guys. thats me done. ^_^ |
| 23:18.04 | ircops_home | Slacker-ware |
| 23:18.07 | en1gmaa | is debian /unstable seem pretty stable? |
| 23:18.12 | azeem | en1gmaa: in general, if you use unstable, you don't get to whine here if things break |
| 23:18.15 | bobesponja | how can I auto launch a script when I login? |
| 23:18.17 | Wyzard | en1gma: I don't know how stable Slackware's /current is, but Debian's unstable does break on occasion... it's a development area, where new packages go to be field-tested (and have bugs found) prior to being included in stable releases |
| 23:18.21 | azeem | en1gmaa: uhm, what does the name "unstable" suggest to you? |
| 23:18.24 | Thanatermesis | how to make my http adress for enter in my page and NOT in my router ? |
| 23:18.28 | en1gmaa | okie |
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| 23:18.40 | en1gmaa | yea slackware /current seems pretty stable so far |
| 23:18.51 | streuner | heh |
| 23:18.53 | cureless | caphuso: funny, .? doesn't catch .. |
| 23:18.59 | Estes2 | Anyone knows how to do $VAR++ in bash ? |
| 23:19.02 | Estes2 | please |
| 23:19.03 | en1gmaa | i did get a couple compiling errors but i think thats was from what i picked in make menuconfig |
| 23:19.06 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: Unstable is usable if you have the skills to deal with occasional problems (typically minor, occasionally severe)... I've been running it for five years on this box |
| 23:19.08 | nkuttler | Thanatermesis: ? |
| 23:19.16 | azeem | en1gmaa: how long have you been using Slackware? |
| 23:19.19 | cureless | Estes2: I'm sure the manpage knows. |
| 23:19.22 | caphuso | Estes2: (( VAR++ )) |
| 23:19.23 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: but it's not something to run just for the sake of having the latest shiny new version numbers on everything |
| 23:19.24 | streuner | nkuttler: so late? |
| 23:19.27 | nkuttler | Estes2: help let |
| 23:19.35 | Thanatermesis | nkuttler if you enter in http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org you have my homepage... if im enter, I have the router |
| 23:19.36 | en1gmaa | Wyzard i think ill prob be using unstable |
| 23:19.38 | StevenR | en1gmaa: look at the version numbers for slackware stable and slackware-current |
| 23:19.41 | caphuso | cureless: $ echo .? |
| 23:19.42 | caphuso | .. .a |
| 23:19.54 | nkuttler | streuner: obviously :) |
| 23:19.56 | cureless | caphuso: caphuso not in zsh |
| 23:19.56 | en1gmaa | StevenR and |
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| 23:20.07 | streuner | nkuttler: :-) |
| 23:20.10 | caphuso | cureless: no, since zsh will *never* match . or .. with a globbing pattern |
| 23:20.10 | StevenR | en1gmaa: you'll notice that they are the same. |
| 23:20.37 | en1gmaa | i was noting that about debian too. seems like debian stable is similar to debian testing |
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| 23:20.44 | nkuttler | Thanatermesis: i still don't understand |
| 23:20.56 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: Debian also has "testing", which is a middle ground between stable and unstable, but it's the last of the three to get security updates due to the way the process works |
| 23:21.00 | Estes2 | caphuso, thanks :) |
| 23:21.02 | cureless | caphuso: oh, that's right... |
| 23:21.16 | Thanatermesis | nkuttler i need to link thanatermesis.no-ip.org -> localhost, this is posible ? |
| 23:21.19 | en1gmaa | Wyzard yep that what i read on that refrence page |
| 23:21.20 | talisein_ | I thought testing-security fixed that? |
| 23:21.22 | caphuso | cureless: which means t's as simple as *(D) in zsh |
| 23:21.26 | en1gmaa | which that isnt to good |
| 23:21.27 | en1gmaa | :) |
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| 23:21.45 | caphuso | Thanatermesis: no, you need to forward the necessary ports |
| 23:21.48 | en1gmaa | what kernel installs with unstable |
| 23:21.53 | Wyzard | talisein: AFAIK, tesing-security is only active near release time, when testing is about to become stable |
| 23:21.55 | azeem | en1gmaa: you cannot install unstable |
| 23:22.04 | en1gmaa | ahh it just upgrades |
| 23:22.05 | en1gmaa | okie |
| 23:22.07 | azeem | en1gmaa: you should only upgrade to it |
| 23:22.14 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: There's no direct installer for unstable -- typically you install stable and then upgrade |
| 23:22.25 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: 2.6.12 is the latest avaialable though |
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| 23:22.42 | en1gmaa | see if i dloaded all slack /current i could install. are u sure that if i dloaded all debian /unstable i couldnt install? |
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| 23:23.05 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: There's no "unstable installer" |
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| 23:23.05 | azeem | en1gmaa: how would you install? |
| 23:23.11 | en1gmaa | from hard drive |
| 23:23.22 | en1gmaa | i just point my install from to the hd partition |
| 23:23.26 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: It's possible to point stable's installer at unstable's archive, and it might work, but unstable isn't tested for installability so it might fail |
| 23:23.27 | StevenR | en1gmaa: well at the moment, slackware- current and stable are almost, if not exactly identical, becuase there has just been a release of slackware (about 2 weeks ago)....they aren't really comparable to debian releases, from what i can see....and how would you install slackware- current? |
| 23:23.34 | azeem | en1gmaa: uhm, what operating system are you running on it? |
| 23:23.34 | kingtu1 | where can I find a good source.list for apt-get?? |
| 23:23.49 | blakkino | kingtu1, define good |
| 23:23.51 | error403 | kingtu1, google? |
| 23:24.00 | streuner | heh |
| 23:24.03 | error403 | kingtu1, what distro you running? |
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| 23:24.09 | en1gmaa | azeem not sure what u mean |
| 23:24.10 | kingtu1 | sarge |
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| 23:24.23 | streuner | kingtu1: just run apt-setup |
| 23:24.35 | azeem | en1gmaa: to "install Slackware from harddisk", you need to boot into some operating system first, I assume |
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| 23:24.50 | en1gmaa | i use the boot cd any slack cd above 9.1 |
| 23:24.50 | error403 | kingtu1, same as me... i can get most things by having stable and testing (pin stable), and backports.org, and debian-marillat (has unlicensed media player stuff |
| 23:25.03 | en1gmaa | and then in setup menu it asks where to install from |
| 23:25.09 | azeem | aha |
| 23:25.18 | en1gmaa | could i do that with debian also |
| 23:25.18 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: So you can try installing unstable directly (and you can do it over a network -- no need to download the entire huge many-gigabytes Debian archive), but it's less likely to succeed than the standard practice of installing stable and then upgrading |
| 23:25.19 | azeem | en1gmaa: well, do the same with the Debian CD |
| 23:25.34 | azeem | Wyzard: note that he wants to install it on his PDA... |
| 23:25.39 | kingtu1 | cool thanks |
| 23:25.41 | en1gmaa | ahh |
| 23:25.41 | en1gmaa | okie |
| 23:26.04 | Danar | can someone help me with lame? when i try to convert my songs to mp3 they're not complete, and it's all just static |
| 23:26.11 | unicone | !seen candle |
| 23:26.12 | dpkg | candle <n=lisa@054.a.002lg.syd.iprimus.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1h 49m 16s ago, saying: 'thingfish: dpkg -i xchat*.deb is cettainly easier :)'. |
| 23:26.14 | en1gmaa | ok guys i got both cds from stable and got a 2.6.12.6 and 2.6.13 kernel sources to upgrade too |
| 23:26.21 | en1gmaa | gonna go and have some fun |
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| 23:26.24 | en1gmaa | bbiab |
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| 23:26.25 | en1gmaa | and thnx |
| 23:26.32 | Wyzard | Danar: Have you checked that the input files are OK? |
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| 23:26.59 | en1gmaa | anything i should be aware of that might confuse me upon install |
| 23:27.05 | abrotman | english ? |
| 23:27.10 | Danar | Wyzard, they are. |
| 23:27.13 | en1gmaa | i use lilo and pick packages with some slack meni |
| 23:27.15 | en1gmaa | menu* |
| 23:27.17 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: There's an installation guide... |
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| 23:27.26 | en1gmaa | i wont be able to see it when im installing |
| 23:27.28 | Danar | Wyzard, they are ogg, and i've been using them for a while now. but i want to put them on my mp3 player |
| 23:27.29 | Sepho | hi all!!! |
| 23:27.29 | en1gmaa | only 1 system |
| 23:27.37 | Sepho | somebody knows any smtp server program??? |
| 23:27.37 | en1gmaa | hiya |
| 23:27.42 | Wyzard | en1gmaa: View it on a different computer |
| 23:27.44 | abrotman | en1gmaa: read the install guide |
| 23:27.47 | abrotman | !ig |
| 23:27.47 | dpkg | ig is probably the install guide for stable: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for woody (oldstable): http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual |
| 23:27.49 | en1gmaa | okie |
| 23:27.51 | en1gmaa | thnx |
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| 23:27.58 | StevenR | en1gmaa: there's nothing you should find confusing or difficult |
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| 23:28.07 | Wyzard | Danar: Personally, I'd opt for getting a better player :-) |
| 23:28.08 | abrotman | oh .. lovely |
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| 23:28.34 | Danar | Wyzard, well, it's a good player, and plays ogg, but most of them are too high bitrate, and mp3 is smaller |
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| 23:29.33 | Wyzard | Danar: Vorbis (the codec used by your Ogg files) yields better quality than MP3 for a given bitrate... if your bitrate is too high, that's a separate problem, but you can reduce it |
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| 23:30.06 | Tortel | XMMS! |
| 23:30.07 | Tortel | :D |
| 23:30.11 | Sepho | somebody knows any smtp server program??? |
| 23:30.17 | Wyzard | Danar: Vorbis supports a feature called "bitrate stripping" (IIRC) which lets you reduce the bitrate of a file without any more loss in quality than you would have had by encoding at the lower bitrate in the first place |
| 23:30.17 | ircops_home | sendmail |
| 23:30.21 | Tortel | thunderbird? |
| 23:30.23 | Danar | Wyzard, i thought so, but what's the best way to get them into a playable form? |
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| 23:30.28 | ircops_home | or not |
| 23:30.47 | Wyzard | Danar: I'm sure there's a tool available for doing that... you can use that to make a lower-bitrate copy of your music collection to put onto your player |
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| 23:31.04 | Danar | Wyzard, that's what i want to do |
| 23:31.28 | Wyzard | Danar: When why are you trying to transode them to MP3? |
| 23:31.44 | Danar | Wyzard, not anymore :p |
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| 23:32.14 | unicone | you want to build a mail server - to protect windows clients ? *++rofl* |
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| 23:33.21 | Wyzard | Danar: Sorry, I was wrong, the term is "bitrate peeling" |
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| 23:33.51 | Danar | Wyzard, uh, ok. how do i go about doing it? |
| 23:34.22 | Danar | Wyzard, i'd prefer variable bitrate no higher than 320 |
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| 23:35.09 | Danar | Wyzard, i didn't find much in the repository that seemed to do what i want, so i went with an mp3 converter... |
| 23:35.15 | Wyzard | Danar: I'm trying to find that out... Google is turning up some several-years-old articles saying it isn't implemented yet, other articles explaining what it's for, but no apps |
| 23:36.01 | Wyzard | http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t34172.html seems to have an experimental tool that doesn't work very well |
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| 23:38.15 | lukewarm | anyone here have experience replacing init with runit on sarge? |
| 23:38.33 | unicone | we want more windows clients so we never be unemployed |
| 23:38.33 | Tortel | http://www.hyperactive-stage.co.uk/toastseq.gif |
| 23:38.36 | Tortel | :D |
| 23:38.49 | Danar | Wyzard, doesn't seem very usable, and it's for windows |
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| 23:39.26 | Wyzard | Danar: Well, my solution would still be to get a better player -- one with more storage space :-) |
| 23:39.43 | Danar | Wyzard, it's 1Gb |
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| 23:40.12 | Wyzard | For flash, that's a lot, but in absolute terms, only a few albums |
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| 23:40.29 | Danar | Wyzard, many of the songs say 'unsupported ogg format' because the bitrate goes too high |
| 23:41.06 | Wyzard | interesting |
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| 23:41.13 | Wyzard | I haven't heard of that happening |
| 23:41.31 | Danar | Supports 8Kbps ~ 320Kbps (OGG: 44.1 KHz, 96.1 Kbps-225kbps) |
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| 23:41.48 | maher | Danar: yeah - some players apparently have that problem - did you check the manufacturer for a firmware update? |
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| 23:41.52 | Wyzard | You actually have files that exceed 320kbps? |
| 23:42.08 | Danar | maher, that was the first thing i did |
| 23:42.12 | Wyzard | I guess temporarily, in VBR |
| 23:42.52 | Danar | Wyzard, yep. i've seen it go over 500 |
| 23:42.53 | scx | I wanna mount an nfs filesystem but tellsme RPC TimeOut.. |
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| 23:43.12 | scx | Yesterday it was fine... what u think may be wrong ? |
| 23:43.20 | Gnurdux | a friend is getting this on apt-get upgrade: |
| 23:43.30 | Guerin | scx: restart the nfs server |
| 23:43.30 | Wyzard | scx: Maybe the NFS server is down? |
| 23:43.32 | Gnurdux | qor ...You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. |
| 23:43.32 | Gnurdux | qor The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 23:43.32 | Gnurdux | qor libstdc++6: Depends: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.2-2) but 4.0.1-2 is installed |
| 23:43.32 | Gnurdux | qor E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. |
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| 23:43.40 | Guerin | mine has been flakey as hell recently |
| 23:43.45 | scx | nfs is running |
| 23:43.52 | Guerin | i'm going to reinstall -user-server and see if that fixes it |
| 23:43.56 | tawfik | Wyzard: is there a virtual machine-like program for linux? |
| 23:44.07 | Danar | Wyzard, http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/700/ifp_799.aspx |
| 23:44.08 | maher | tawfik: uwml, xen, bochs, qemu |
| 23:44.10 | Guerin | scx: restart it. A daemon should never time out. |
| 23:44.20 | scx | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.28 | scx | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.43 | Guerin | scx: wtf are you doing? |
| 23:44.49 | scx | I checked /etc/exports... |
| 23:44.56 | maher | tawfik: w/uwml/uml/ - and its not really a virtual machine, just a user mode kernel |
| 23:44.59 | Wyzard | tawfik: There's VMware which is non-free, UML (User-Mode Linux) which can only run Linux, DosBox which is good for running old DOS games, and something called Xen which might be an alternative to VMware, but I don't know much about it |
| 23:45.01 | ubuntu | hey i am in the process of apt-getting gnome, --i am using xandros, how will i be able to start gnome when it is done |
| 23:45.02 | scx | Guerin: mounting an nfs |
| 23:45.13 | yoo | i can't have son with my bt878 card ! |
| 23:45.16 | scx | I relly don't know why |
| 23:45.19 | yoo | tveeprom: audio_processor = None (type = 0) |
| 23:45.20 | Wyzard | tawfik: Bochs and qemu too, but I haven't used those either |
| 23:45.27 | yoo | How resolve this problem ? |
| 23:45.35 | Danar | o.O |
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| 23:45.44 | maher | yoo: the bt878 card made you infertile? |
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| 23:45.54 | Danar | a user named ubuntu in a debian channel using xandros? |
| 23:46.00 | scx | Guerin: :) |
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| 23:46.19 | ubuntu | hey i am on a live cd |
| 23:46.21 | kingtux | sk |
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| 23:46.32 | Danar | maher, lol |
| 23:46.35 | ubuntu | pretty ironic i know |
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| 23:46.37 | tawfik | Wyzard: for example I would want to virtually run windows vista, do you think those programs would be able to do that? |
| 23:46.38 | yoo | maher: yes |
| 23:46.40 | azeem | ubuntu: via gdm or another display manager, typically, though I do not know whether this holds for Xandros |
| 23:47.00 | Wyzard | tawfik: VMware would, and possibly Xen |
| 23:47.11 | scx | may be 'cause of filesystem corruption ? |
| 23:47.19 | Guerin | um |
| 23:47.26 | cheal | shrug...vista, ubuntu, xandros, vmware...am I on #debian? |
| 23:47.29 | ubuntu | do i just apt-get it and restart xandros or do i need to change anything in configuration? |
| 23:47.31 | Wyzard | tawfik: Note that the new Vista UI is based on Direct3D, and VMware has only experimental, buggy support for Direct3D, and only in the latest version |
| 23:47.32 | Guerin | xen needs the guest OS to be rebuilt to work |
| 23:47.43 | Guerin | so I sincerely doubt vista would run under it |
| 23:47.47 | unicone | hehe too many assholes are to bad for any query |
| 23:47.54 | Wyzard | tawfik: I've run Windows XP and Server 2003 under VMware though |
| 23:47.55 | azeem | ubuntu: no idea, most people here do not run Xandros |
| 23:47.58 | azeem | ubuntu: just try it |
| 23:48.05 | Guerin | and to run vista under vmware you apparently need to be running vmware |
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| 23:48.19 | Guerin | bah |
| 23:48.20 | ubuntu | cool |
| 23:48.21 | Wyzard | Guerin: naturally |
| 23:48.21 | Guerin | vmware 5 |
| 23:48.28 | ubuntu | hey what is the name of this server? |
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| 23:48.29 | Guerin | rather than 4.x |
| 23:48.32 | Wyzard | Guerin: For the Direct3D, you mean? |
| 23:48.35 | Guerin | ubuntu: which server? |
| 23:48.37 | keikoz | hi |
| 23:48.50 | Guerin | Wyzard: I don't know the details, I was just told it didn't work in 4.x |
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| 23:48.54 | Danar | anyone know how to convert ogg to a lower bitrate? |
| 23:49.02 | ubuntu | is this "debian.org or freenode.debian or what? |
| 23:49.07 | kingtux | pretty cool chatting on irc on gaim |
| 23:49.12 | Guerin | Danar: look in vorbis-tools package |
| 23:49.14 | Danar | i'd like to have a variable bitrate with a max of 320 |
| 23:49.22 | Wyzard | Guerin: It can probably fall back to a non-3D interface if necessary... but they're going to need to finish their D3D implementation if they want it to work well |
| 23:49.30 | tawfik | Wyzard: my dilemma is that I have the windows vista image file, but I have no dvd-writer, an nowhere to back-up my system, and I don't know if I can tweak the installation .iso to make it fit in 4 cd's, I mean, I don't know if it would accept it |
| 23:49.38 | Guerin | Danar: there's a utility someplace to down-code it without too much loss of quality, I just don't recall what it's called |
| 23:49.42 | Wyzard | Danar: Rather than peeling, you could just recompress... you'll probably get less lossage transcoding Vorbis->Vorbis than Vorbis->MP3 |
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| 23:49.53 | Guerin | Wyzard: ah, that makes sense |
| 23:50.17 | Danar | Guerin, that's what i was hoping for, but i don't know either, and neither does Wyzard it seems |
| 23:50.25 | Guerin | yeah, I'd just decode to wave and recompress at a lower rate |
| 23:50.26 | Wyzard | tawfik: VMware can mount an .iso file on disk as the contents of a virtual DVD drive |
| 23:50.29 | ubuntu | hey guys thanks for the info. |
| 23:50.40 | Guerin | Danar: so look at the binaries vorbis-tools provides |
| 23:50.44 | Danar | Wyzard, whatever works (!) what do i do? |
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| 23:50.53 | Danar | Guerin, looking... |
| 23:51.30 | Wyzard | tawfik: Are you a Vista beta tester? |
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| 23:51.42 | tawfik | Wyzard: not exactly... :) |
| 23:52.17 | Wyzard | tawfik: Then you probably shouldn't be asking in #debian about how to run another operating system that you don't even have a right to be running anyway |
| 23:52.39 | tawfik | I have the right to run it, i'm not a beta tester, but i did pay for it |
| 23:52.50 | tawfik | wyzard: too much i believe |
| 23:52.59 | tawfik | wyzard: around $600 |
| 23:52.59 | Guerin | more fool you |
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| 23:53.12 | Wyzard | Vista isn't released yet... what exactly did you buy? |
| 23:53.15 | Guerin | in any case, vista and vmware are both offtopic in #debian |
| 23:53.19 | pureone | lol |
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| 23:53.21 | kingtux | whats the battery meter for laptop on sarge?? Is there one?? |
| 23:53.33 | maher | tawfik: you paid ms $600 for their beta sw? |
| 23:53.35 | tawfik | Wyzard: you can buy it, if yu subscribe to MSDN(microsoft developer network) |
| 23:53.43 | Guerin | the 100% Really Truly Official Pre-Release Edition |
| 23:53.45 | Danar | Guerin, oggenc won't work with ogg files |
| 23:53.48 | scx | * scx ran to her's room to cry |
| 23:53.52 | kingtux | battery life meter for laptop |
| 23:53.53 | pureone | kingtux i use acpi and gkrellm for that,donno if its in sarge |
| 23:53.57 | maher | Danar: convert them to wav |
| 23:54.01 | Wyzard | kingtux: There's one available as a GNOME panel applet, though I don't remember its name offhand... I think it's one of the standard ones that comes with GNOME |
| 23:54.01 | Guerin | Danar: no, you'd need to decode them to wave first |
| 23:54.02 | Wyzard | tawfik: ah, ok |
| 23:54.08 | Danar | oy |
| 23:54.15 | Danar | wouldn't that be lossy? |
| 23:54.22 | streuner | sure |
| 23:54.28 | maher | Danar: reducing the bitrate is lossy |
| 23:54.44 | Wyzard | Danar: Any transcoding is lossy, but Vorbis->Vorbis is hopefully less lossy than Vorbis->MP3 |
| 23:54.44 | Danar | maher, and lossy * 2 = even more lossy :p |
| 23:55.12 | maher | Danar: ogg -> wav -> ogg less lossy than ogg -> mp3 -> ogg |
| 23:55.18 | Danar | Wyzard, well that's what i want to do, vorbis -> vorbis, not vorbis -> wav -> vorbis |
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| 23:55.31 | Guerin | Danar: so keep looking |
| 23:55.42 | Guerin | Danar: don't make us do your legwork |
| 23:55.45 | kingtux | thanks guys |
| 23:55.48 | Wyzard | Danar: Same thing |
| 23:55.51 | Danar | Guerin, i have, and didn't find much, so that's why i'm asking for help |
| 23:55.59 | Wyzard | Danar: Uncompressed wav is lossless |
| 23:56.01 | Danar | ok, so wav it is |
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| 23:56.28 | Guerin | bah |
| 23:56.30 | Wyzard | Danar: You decode to wav and get something that sounds exactly like the original Vorbis... then you compress the wav to Vorbis, and that's the lossy step |
| 23:56.40 | Guerin | REAL uncompressed wave is lossless |
| 23:56.54 | Guerin | but wave from a compressed ogg is just as lossy as the ogg it came from |
| 23:57.15 | Danar | Wyzard, k. i was hoping for something that wouldn't be too time consuming though... i have a lot of songs to convert :/ |
| 23:57.18 | Wyzard | It's a perfect reproduction of the signal that came out of the Vorbis decoder |
| 23:57.30 | Wyzard | The relationship of the Vorbis decoder's output to some other signal in the past is irrelevant |
| 23:57.34 | maher | Wyzard: i assume ogg -> wav involves little loss but i'm not sure ogg -> wav -> ogg at the same bitrate is completely lossless - but i haven;t reied... |
| 23:57.36 | Guerin | the whole point of this ogg down-coder thing is that it's no more lossy than if you simply encoded the thing to the lower bitrate itfp |
| 23:57.47 | zinx | except it doesn't work like that |
| 23:57.49 | Wyzard | maher: No, anything->ogg is lossy |
| 23:57.52 | maher | s/reied/tried/ |
| 23:57.55 | zinx | because the encoder doesn't order the data correctly |
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| 23:58.00 | Danar | itfp? |
| 23:58.13 | Guerin | in the first place |
| 23:58.35 | Wyzard | Guerin: That would be true of bitrate peeling, but not transcoding |
| 23:58.36 | yoo | tveeprom: audio_processor = None (type = 0) |
| 23:58.40 | maher | Wyzard: really? even if you encode something that has less than 120kbps at higher res? |
| 23:58.49 | yoo | How solve this problem ? |
| 23:58.54 | Danar | well, i'd like to find something that will simply take an ogg and produce another ogg with a max bitrate |
| 23:59.04 | Wyzard | Guerin: Unfortunately, although Vorbis theoretically supports peeling, it apparently hasn't been implemented yet |
| 23:59.19 | maher | Danar: write a script to do ogg - wav - ogg already |
| 23:59.22 | jimjam | whats the best way of adding more ips to my interface? |
| 23:59.40 | Danar | maher, i'd love to, but i don't know enough to do that yet :( |
| 23:59.44 | Wyzard | maher: There'd probably be a bit of loss even in that case |
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