| 00:00.12 | WaltWhitman | It downloadied a small package before it went into the reboot |
| 00:00.21 | WaltWhitman | so I know the connection is good |
| 00:00.24 | mrwill | WaltWhitman: ok, is the network interface on that machine configured correctly? |
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| 00:00.46 | WaltWhitman | I have etc/network/interfaces open but I'm not sure how to set that file up |
| 00:00.48 | TwistedEmotions | danieldg: iptables? |
| 00:00.59 | danieldg | TwistedEmotions: yes |
| 00:01.13 | mrwill | WaltWhitman: is there anything in the file now? what does 'ifconfig' tell you, are any interfaces running? |
| 00:01.14 | WaltWhitman | It receives a static IP from the router which I knoe |
| 00:01.18 | WaltWhitman | *know |
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| 00:01.29 | jhenn | will netinstall iso give me the same install as the noraml iso? |
| 00:01.29 | TwistedEmotions | danieldg: can I steal what you have in there for tunneling over ssh please? |
| 00:01.35 | Dakkon | WaltWhitman: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:01.42 | WaltWhitman | as root? |
| 00:01.48 | mrwill | WaltWhitman: as any user. |
| 00:02.02 | mrwill | WaltWhitman: if it is receiving an ip from the router, than it is DHCP, not static. |
| 00:02.15 | danieldg | TwistedEmotions: what part of it? the iptables config? |
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| 00:02.56 | TwistedEmotions | danieldg: yeah iptables.. is there more to it? can I msg you to show you what I have now.. and what to do about adding vnc access? |
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| 00:03.10 | danieldg | TwistedEmotions: yes |
| 00:05.22 | WaltWhitman | does it matter that I can't format that file correctly? |
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| 00:05.35 | WaltWhitman | i.e text formate not file format? |
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| 00:06.40 | omry | I have both gcc-3.3 and gcc-4.0 installed. how do I change the default to gcc-3.3? |
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| 00:06.47 | [bman] | hmm... ^ that's strange dpkg and debhelper quit? |
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| 00:06.54 | dondelelcaro | omry: set CC=gcc-3.3 or HOSTCC |
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| 00:08.52 | omry | dondelelcaro, I tried export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3, but it didn't work. it seems that the build script I am using does not honor it. |
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| 00:09.22 | Dakkon | omry: dpkg-divert? |
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| 00:10.11 | dondelelcaro | omry: what are you trying to build? |
| 00:10.44 | dondelelcaro | omry: look at the Makefile; it should be setting CC somewhere there; if it is setting it ala CC=gcc, then go make CC=gcc-3.3 |
| 00:10.50 | omry | Dakkon, I don't seem to have it. (and I can't find a package that match) |
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| 00:11.03 | xfoxx | dpkg: regarding xserver-xorg_6.8.2.dfsg.1-8_i386.deb containing xserver-xorg: |
| 00:11.03 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.03 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.08 | dondelelcaro | ugh. don't use dpkg-divert for that. |
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| 00:11.25 | omry | dondelelcaro, its a script for cvscedega, it downloads the make file dynamically or something. |
| 00:11.33 | gravity | wtf |
| 00:11.36 | Dakkon | hum |
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| 00:11.37 | gravity | That shouldn't be happening |
| 00:11.56 | dondelelcaro | xfoxx: that sure looks like you're running some bizare mixture of sarge and unstable. |
| 00:11.59 | Dakkon | I guess it's not the cleanest, but ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 /usr/local/bin/gcc ? |
| 00:12.08 | dondelelcaro | blech. |
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| 00:12.21 | omry | Dakkon, that would work, but I hate it. was looking for something cleaner :) |
| 00:12.26 | xfoxx | dondelelcaro, so what can i do?? |
| 00:12.27 | Dakkon | :) |
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| 00:12.34 | dondelelcaro | omry: when it downloads it, stop the script, and see how it's calling the makefile. Then alter the way it's being called. |
| 00:12.37 | xfoxx | dondelelcaro, trying to install last version of xorg |
| 00:12.37 | dondelelcaro | !bat |
| 00:12.37 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
| 00:12.44 | dondelelcaro | xfoxx: give us the output asked for above. |
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| 00:12.57 | Dakkon | I don't think gcc uses the debian alternatives system |
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| 00:13.11 | dondelelcaro | xfoxx: we'll need to see apt-cache policy xserver-xorg xlibs; for starters. |
| 00:13.29 | dondelelcaro | Dakkon: no, it's just a symlink. You shouldn't need to much with either of them unless the build system was made by a moron. |
| 00:13.31 | xfoxx | gii i cannot understand what you saying =/ |
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| 00:13.45 | david55038 | I can't boot into windows from grub... I am using the stable release of debian |
| 00:13.57 | Dakkon | I know, but some build systems are written by morons, I guess |
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| 00:14.26 | Dakkon | at work I sometimes have to compile things with the intel compiler, icc .. you'd be surprised how often CC=whatever doesn't work :-) |
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| 00:15.00 | dondelelcaro | Dakkon: that's when you fix the build system... |
| 00:15.02 | Pmarc_ | david55038: edit you /boot/grub/menu.list |
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| 00:15.18 | Pmarc_ | david55038: read the grub manual and the howto. |
| 00:15.26 | Dakkon | dondelelcaro: the packages I'm building are mostly scientific software that we had nothing to do with writing |
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| 00:15.35 | zinx | Dakkon: vmware not only strips environment vars from linux's build system, it also strips the path, so ~/bin/gcc doesn't work, for example |
| 00:15.43 | omry | dondelelcaro, I found the Makefiles. it has 179(!!) of them, and all got hard coded CC=gcc in them. |
| 00:15.44 | Dakkon | I suppose in an ideal world I'd fix every one of them and submit bug reports ... |
| 00:16.00 | scx | *scx: Than You guys: have a nice day |
| 00:16.08 | dondelelcaro | omry: call make -e; instead of just make. |
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| 00:16.20 | dondelelcaro | omry: or just make CC=gcc-3.3; |
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| 00:16.38 | ralf | make things=work |
| 00:16.45 | Anders__ | what does YES, WE KNOW THAT ChanServ LIKES YOU in the topic mean |
| 00:16.46 | david55038 | Pmarc_ , THe problem is the computer hangs when I run the commands: rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader +1 |
| 00:16.52 | david55038 | That should work, but it doesn't |
| 00:17.11 | Gnea | wow, #samba is nice and dead |
| 00:17.14 | dondelelcaro | Anders__: chanserv decided that it should remove all of the people in #debian a while ago. |
| 00:17.20 | Anders__ | heh |
| 00:17.24 | omry | dondelelcaro, david55038 you are missing boot command |
| 00:17.30 | WaltWhitman | ok how do I restart eth0? |
| 00:17.36 | Dakkon | isn't boot implicit at the end of a grub stanza? |
| 00:17.37 | omry | dondelelcaro, wrong target. |
| 00:17.38 | dondelelcaro | WaltWhitman: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0;; |
| 00:17.41 | Pmarc_ | david55038: mmm... which is yous windows disk? |
| 00:17.41 | WaltWhitman | I can't find the command in the manual |
| 00:17.50 | dondelelcaro | !tell WaltWhitman -about quick reference |
| 00:17.52 | Pmarc_ | Dakkon: no it isn't |
| 00:17.56 | caphuso | WaltWhitman: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 00:18.07 | meff | anyone have an lcd monitor and know how i can figure out which type of subpixel hinting i should be using? .. or if its even on? |
| 00:18.11 | WaltWhitman | thanks |
| 00:18.25 | david55038 | hd1,0 its the slave drive. I decided I wanted to leave the MBR intact, so I switched it to the slave position, installed a new HD as master and installed debian on it |
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| 00:18.39 | david55038 | Its win98 by the way |
| 00:18.43 | sobersabre | if anybody knows: there's an SD reader for winbond card readers. There are specs for TI PCI7420/PCI7620 SD/XD reader. how much different should be such drivers' structures ? |
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| 00:18.54 | Pmarc_ | david55038: windows need to _think_ it is on the first drive |
| 00:19.05 | zinx | meff: put a red pixel and a blue pixel next to each other (in that order).. if they're far apart, you want BGR, otherwise you want RGB |
| 00:19.09 | sobersabre | i mean an SD/XD TI reader's driver vs. Winbond's ? |
| 00:19.11 | Dakkon | david55038: the menu.lst example included in my grub package suggests the following for windows: rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 |
| 00:19.19 | Dakkon | maybe you need a makeactive line? |
| 00:19.27 | Pmarc_ | david55038: you have to use the map stuff, but I not sure how |
| 00:19.41 | meff | zinx: ...how? :) |
| 00:19.45 | zinx | meff: almost all consumer LCD screens for use with computers have horizontal subpixels |
| 00:19.50 | Pmarc_ | Dakkon: he need at least a hide |
| 00:20.02 | zinx | meff: well, shorter horizontal that is.. three horizontal make one pixel |
| 00:20.03 | Dakkon | Pmarc_: you sure about not needing boot? the menu.lst example included in my grub package doesn't have a boot line at the end of each OS stanza |
| 00:20.12 | zinx | meff: with your favorite graphic editing program? |
| 00:20.22 | Pmarc_ | Dakkon: no, you NEED that |
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| 00:20.28 | david55038 | The make active line is on there, I just forgot to mention it |
| 00:20.40 | omry | david55038, try this sequence : map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot |
| 00:20.40 | w3rdn4 | Do they have quake for free by now? |
| 00:20.44 | zinx | meff: most are RGB, so you can try that and if it doesn't look right, try the other :P |
| 00:20.47 | Pmarc_ | david55038: ok, pretty much standard |
| 00:21.09 | zinx | w3rdn4: id doesn't release free games, they release free engines |
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| 00:21.42 | Dakkon | Pmarc_: from the grub manual: "Boot the OS or chain-loader which has been loaded. Only necessary if running the fully interactive command-line (it is implicit at the end of a menu entry)." |
| 00:21.44 | Pmarc_ | david55038: try waht omry says |
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| 00:21.54 | Dakkon | ah it's no big deal |
| 00:22.01 | Dakkon | one way or the other ;-) |
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| 00:22.29 | WaltWhitman | ok I have the interface file set-up correctly but it still tries to resolve the ftp connection to 1.0.0.0 |
| 00:22.31 | Pmarc_ | Dakkon: yep, u'r right. i forgot that |
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| 00:22.55 | WaltWhitman | and I've read that manual 100 times before |
| 00:23.07 | david55038 | Alright, I wrote what omry said so I can try it |
| 00:23.14 | WaltWhitman | I tried setting up Debain ages ago and it did this then |
| 00:23.19 | Anders__ | !debain |
| 00:23.20 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 00:23.22 | Pmarc_ | david55038: g'luck |
| 00:23.34 | WaltWhitman | I have a crap keyboard |
| 00:23.37 | Anders__ | ;) |
| 00:23.39 | WaltWhitman | :/ |
| 00:23.43 | david55038 | Thanks, I'll let ou know how it goes |
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| 00:23.53 | Pmarc_ | c u soon |
| 00:23.57 | xfoxx | hhhmm help??, xserver-xorg conflicts with xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:23.57 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:24.10 | ircops_home | heh |
| 00:24.14 | Pmarc_ | xfoxx: xorg repaces xfree |
| 00:24.21 | Pmarc_ | replaces |
| 00:24.31 | WaltWhitman | will someone tell me why this darn thing just errors |
| 00:24.34 | xfoxx | so how do i stop and uninstall xfree so i can install xorg |
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| 00:24.56 | omry | xfoxx, ctrl c? |
| 00:25.02 | Pmarc_ | xfoxx: dist-upgrade? |
| 00:25.11 | WaltWhitman | and just put the card into a spare XP box and booted it and the network works fine |
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| 00:25.21 | Dakkon | WaltWhitman: did you do an ifdown eth?; ifup eth? after changing your interfaces file? |
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| 00:25.27 | xfoxx | dist-upgrade??, this is the lates stable version =P |
| 00:25.32 | liable | hrmph |
| 00:25.32 | omry | Pmarc_, dist upgrade don't replace xfree (not for me anyway) |
| 00:25.36 | WaltWhitman | but DebIAn still errors |
| 00:25.41 | omry | xfoxx, apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 00:26.03 | Pmarc_ | omry: don't remember, same happened here... |
| 00:26.05 | WaltWhitman | Dakkon:nope |
| 00:26.19 | xfoxx | Package xserver-xorg is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 00:26.19 | xfoxx | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 00:26.19 | xfoxx | is only available from another source |
| 00:26.19 | xfoxx | E: Package xserver-xorg has no installation candidate |
| 00:26.21 | omry | xfoxx, its a one way ticket. and it might not go smooth. |
| 00:26.26 | WaltWhitman | I changed my interface file then changed it back |
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| 00:26.34 | WaltWhitman | nothing seems to help |
| 00:26.42 | Dakkon | WaltWhitman: try that - changes to your interfaces file don't actually take effect until you reconfigure your network like that |
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| 00:27.01 | SPT1 | I'm trying to mount my flash drive but I don't have a /dev/sda* or /dev/sdb*. I'm rather lost at what to mount since I ussually mount it from /dev/sda*.(This is the first time I'm trying with this install) |
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| 00:27.09 | Pmarc_ | !debian |
| 00:27.09 | dpkg | i guess debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 00:27.34 | omry | xfoxx, which debian? |
| 00:27.40 | gravity | xfoxx: What did you do to get xorg? |
| 00:27.42 | xfoxx | omry, debian sarge |
| 00:27.49 | omry | sarge got xorg? |
| 00:27.51 | viszneki | hey everyone i have a new debian system and i'm unfamiliar with the apt-get package database, can anyone tell me what package i need to install for opengl development? i have "xlibmesa-gl" and "xlibmesa-glu" installed but i don't see any other related packages containing the search string "gl" |
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| 00:27.54 | omry | or is it only etch? |
| 00:27.56 | houman_zhu | hi there, i just installed debian and installed gaim, but it wont work with msn, it hangs and it seems like because its an old version |
| 00:27.56 | linoleum | hello |
| 00:27.59 | xfoxx | ehh got package from home page gravity... |
| 00:28.10 | gravity | xfoxx: What home page? |
| 00:28.10 | houman_zhu | can i get a newer gain for debian than gain 1.2? :| recent one is like 1,5 |
| 00:28.17 | xfoxx | gravity, debians home page |
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| 00:28.26 | gravity | xfoxx: You're going to have to be more specific. What URL? |
| 00:28.34 | linoleum | sorry , do you have something similar as Dawnloader for X ??? because it keeps crashing everytimes |
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| 00:28.41 | xfoxx | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fx%2Fxorg-x11%2Fxlibs_6.8.2.dfsg.1-8_all.deb&md5sum=158c853745bd8114c779bd3f2791c2e4&arch=all&type=main |
| 00:28.42 | gravity | xfoxx: Also, did you just dpkg -i them or did you set up an apt source? |
| 00:28.44 | gravity | ugh |
| 00:28.49 | abrotman | houman_zhu: i doubt that's it .. unless MSN changed the protocol again .. use jabber |
| 00:28.58 | TwistedEmotions | danieldg: I keep getting errors from tightvncserver... xvncviewer localhost:5900 ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream |
| 00:29.01 | gravity | xfoxx: Bad idea |
| 00:29.09 | xfoxx | gravity, ???? |
| 00:29.12 | gravity | xfoxx: Ok... here's what you have to do. |
| 00:29.24 | gravity | xfoxx: You've installed packages built for sid/etch on your system |
| 00:29.27 | houman_zhu | abrotman: jabber for msn? all my friends are on msn, if i cant get gaim runnign im ruined, back to windows for me :s |
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| 00:29.33 | gravity | xfoxx: Your system is neither of these, so you've done something wrong |
| 00:29.39 | TwistedEmotions | danieldg: xtightvncviewer localhost xtightvncviewer: VNC server closed connection |
| 00:29.45 | xfoxx | gravity, ??? |
| 00:29.47 | gravity | xfoxx: What you have to do first is go back to xfree86 |
| 00:29.48 | abrotman | houman_zhu: check the bts .. ask #gaim |
| 00:29.49 | WaltWhitman | Dakkon - there are no files in the if-up directory |
| 00:29.56 | houman_zhu | is anyone using gaim on debian? using msn account? are there any known problems ? |
| 00:29.59 | w3rdn4 | zinx: Releasing an engine is like giving away a free car which costs hmmm 2.5K and not in gold. hahaha What type of engines are you talking about? |
| 00:30.01 | xfoxx | gravity, i am on xfree86 |
| 00:30.02 | WaltWhitman | or if-down |
| 00:30.03 | Pmarc_ | I was trying to set a package proxy but a guy from #debian-br told me not to...does anyone know howto?? |
| 00:30.08 | houman_zhu | abrotman: whats bts? |
| 00:30.08 | strahler | hello, does anyone know, when kernel 2.6.13 is in debian packages for apt-get install... ? |
| 00:30.13 | abrotman | !bts |
| 00:30.13 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 00:30.17 | gravity | xfoxx: You need to make sure that *every* xorg package that you installed is gone |
| 00:30.26 | gravity | xfoxx: I don't think you've done that |
| 00:30.26 | strahler | houman_zhu: I'm using gaim on debian |
| 00:30.26 | danieldg | TwistedEmotions: I'm not sure what that means, but it might mean that the vncserver is rejecting localhost connections (iirc, that was default in windows version) |
| 00:30.33 | xfoxx | gravity, i havent installed xorg |
| 00:30.37 | zinx | w3rdn4: uh, 3d engines, like the engines used for wolf3d, doom1/2, quake, quake2, and quake3 |
| 00:30.38 | gravity | xfoxx: You tried |
| 00:30.45 | xfoxx | gravity, even didnt started |
| 00:30.46 | houman_zhu | strahler: and you have an msn account? |
| 00:30.47 | zinx | w3rdn4: they do *not* give out the game data for those games, however |
| 00:30.55 | Pmarc_ | xfoxx: then you better an an apt source and upgrade from there |
| 00:31.02 | gravity | hrmpf |
| 00:31.02 | houman_zhu | strahler: is it gaim 1.2? are you having any prolems signing into msn? |
| 00:31.10 | gravity | xfoxx: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 00:31.12 | zinx | w3rdn4: so no, they don't have quake for free now. |
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| 00:31.20 | gravity | xfoxx: Follow those instructions and use aptitude to install the sarge xorg backport |
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| 00:31.33 | strahler | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.45 | gravity | xfoxx: Hopefully you won't be screwing up your system even more, but if you believe that all your packages are currently xfree86 then that's what you believe. |
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| 00:31.53 | WaltWhitman | Dakkon? |
| 00:31.53 | gravity | I can only trust you to be right |
| 00:31.53 | houman_zhu | strahler: how did you get that ? the repositories have only 1.2, did you compile it? are you using sarge> |
| 00:31.53 | xfoxx | gracity, that page only give me an txt with no value info that i can understandm it have some package description |
| 00:32.02 | w3rdn4 | Hmm free engines for quake1? |
| 00:32.07 | strahler | unfortunately i have'nt tried to connet msn |
| 00:32.08 | w3rdn4 | where do I find this engine? for all of these games |
| 00:32.15 | strahler | but why shouldnt work? |
| 00:32.18 | w3rdn4 | ebay? |
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| 00:32.19 | TwistedEmotions | danieldg: do you know how I can get it to accept them? I never blocked localhost access. ;P |
| 00:32.29 | zinx | w3rdn4: they're different engines, and id has released them under the GPL |
| 00:32.31 | strahler | i'm using sid |
| 00:32.42 | gravity | xfoxx: You have to add that URL to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:33.01 | gravity | xfoxx: Then you simply use apt to install xorg |
| 00:33.02 | zinx | w3rdn4: and i think you're purposefully being an idiot at this point, or have lived in a cave and don't know how to use a search enigne or news site, so i'm going off to do something else now ;) |
| 00:33.04 | w3rdn4 | How nice of id |
| 00:33.06 | houman_zhu | strahler: woow, ok then thats why i got stuck with 1.2, are most debian users using etch or sid? i feel like an idiot going with sarge |
| 00:33.07 | abrotman | houman_zhu: behind a proxy ? |
| 00:33.16 | TwistedEmotions | danieldg: it's okay thanks anyways ill figure it out |
| 00:33.17 | [Deek] | zinx: heh |
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| 00:33.35 | houman_zhu | abrotman: no , just a router, and that shouldnt be a problem cuz i can loging from another windows machine on the same router |
| 00:33.58 | abrotman | houman_zhu: i don't see anything in the bts |
| 00:34.13 | abrotman | !tell houman_zhu about simple sid backport |
| 00:34.15 | strahler | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.16 | w3rdn4 | GPL hmmm |
| 00:34.17 | abrotman | err wait a sec |
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| 00:34.48 | gravity | Why would you feel like an idiot with sarge? |
| 00:34.50 | gravity | It's not that old |
| 00:34.53 | baron | hi everyone, i'm viszneki, did anyone have an answer to my question about what packages to install for opengl development? |
| 00:35.00 | [Deek] | w3rdn4: Still need the data though, which isn't free. |
| 00:35.05 | abrotman | i used it until i wanted libportaudio0 ... which wasn't in sarge at all |
| 00:35.07 | w3rdn4 | dpkg: methinks gpl is about freedom whereas the BSD license allows people to take that away, or at http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html |
| 00:35.07 | dpkg | w3rdn4: okay |
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| 00:35.28 | david55038 | omry, it worked! |
| 00:35.28 | abrotman | wtf |
| 00:35.33 | xfoxx | E: Type 'http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/' is not known on line 5 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:35.33 | xfoxx | E: The list of sources could not be read. |
| 00:35.34 | xfoxx | , dang >_< |
| 00:35.39 | omry | david55038, great. |
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| 00:35.50 | david55038 | Thank you |
| 00:35.50 | gravity | xfoxx: Put the sources.list in a pastebin |
| 00:35.53 | w3rdn4 | hahaha |
| 00:36.06 | omry | you welcome. took me a while to figure it out myself. |
| 00:36.07 | xfoxx | gravity, how do i do that?? |
| 00:36.11 | houman_zhu | strahler: what abotu ubuntu? i would have gone for that, i just heard good things about debian, but i wasnt planning on getting stuck with ancient apps that dont work :S |
| 00:36.17 | gravity | xfoxx: www.pastebin.org |
| 00:36.37 | abrotman | !tell houman_zhu about simple sid backport |
| 00:36.44 | w3rdn4 | houman_zhu, I went for www.agnula.org for my purposes as a desktop system. Music production and all |
| 00:36.45 | strahler | houman_zhu: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gaim/gaim-1.5.0.tar.gz?download get it an install it. |
| 00:36.53 | abrotman | that's a dumb way to do it |
| 00:36.54 | houman_zhu | abrotman: but wont that break something |
| 00:37.00 | w3rdn4 | running a m0n0wall system as my ghetto router haha |
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| 00:37.03 | abrotman | houman_zhu: did you actually read it ? |
| 00:37.13 | abrotman | houman_zhu: or if you're feeling daring .. you can upgrade to etch |
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| 00:37.17 | houman_zhu | i did, it says or pay someone who can do it properly so i assumed its hard |
| 00:37.17 | KillBot | Vist http://com2.runboard.com/bthefunhouse2.fmovies.t1 4 links to Doom/ Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang/ The legend of zoro/ Saw II 2005 & more |
| 00:37.24 | abrotman | gravity: KILL! |
| 00:37.25 | TwistedEmotions | join #vnc |
| 00:37.36 | xfoxx | gravity, ??? eehh what.. i am on www.pastebin.org |
| 00:37.38 | abrotman | gravity: good job! |
| 00:37.41 | houman_zhu | abrotman: no i am a noob , its taken me long enough to do sarge |
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| 00:37.43 | TwistedEmotions | no #vnc :P |
| 00:37.53 | strahler | ubuntu has an debian kernel |
| 00:38.04 | abrotman | strahler: this has NOTHING to do with the kernel |
| 00:38.09 | w3rdn4 | I have been tring to find Quake 3 at half prices books for the longest time!!! It is not there anymore and where in the world can I buy suck an increible first person shooter? |
| 00:38.24 | w3rdn4 | keep in mind it needs to be stable for linux and have good graphics hahaha |
| 00:38.25 | houman_zhu | so how abotu i just get the cvs and compile it? is it bad ot compile stuff here? is that frowned upon? |
| 00:38.25 | gravity | xfoxx: Just put "deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge/" in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:38.37 | gravity | xfoxx: It needs to have the stuff at before the URL and after it |
| 00:38.41 | abrotman | houman_zhu: it's better to do the simple sid backport thing |
| 00:38.44 | gravity | abrotman: Huh? |
| 00:38.52 | abrotman | gravity: you missed the spam bot :) |
| 00:39.01 | gravity | Heh, sorry |
| 00:39.08 | abrotman | s'alright .. a staffer got him |
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| 00:39.28 | HeLpSysTeM | hello |
| 00:39.33 | houman_zhu | abrotman: ok so liek all the sarge people then can use the sid stuff is they can use those src packages from sid right? |
| 00:39.38 | meff | could someone recommend to me some good terminal truetype fonts? |
| 00:39.40 | HeLpSysTeM | how to reconfigure my screen reseltion |
| 00:39.44 | gravity | houman_zhu: Bad idea |
| 00:39.58 | houman_zhu | gravity: abrotman told me i can use them |
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| 00:40.12 | xfoxx | gravity, E: Malformed line 5 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) |
| 00:40.12 | xfoxx | E: The list of sources could not be read. |
| 00:40.13 | abrotman | gravity: he thinks gaim is broken |
| 00:40.17 | abrotman | i think MSN is broken |
| 00:40.26 | abrotman | houman_zhu: why not ask #gaim if version 1.2 should work with MSN |
| 00:40.30 | houman_zhu | abrotman: are you some kind of pro choice activist? :p |
| 00:40.34 | gravity | xfoxx: You need to fix it. Read man sources.list. |
| 00:40.45 | houman_zhu | abrotman: you are right, ill go there |
| 00:40.48 | xfoxx | man sources.lists. |
| 00:40.53 | abrotman | houman_zhu: no .. i htink everyone should kill babies |
| 00:40.54 | xfoxx | XD sorry... |
| 00:40.57 | gravity | wtf |
| 00:41.04 | zxsykco | Who wants to play a game of psychological intrique? |
| 00:41.21 | houman_zhu | wow im scared abrotman, but still i feel safer here than in the gentoo forum |
| 00:41.23 | gravity | houman_zhu: Ubuntu may be a better fit for you if gaim really is broken. |
| 00:41.25 | abrotman | who wants a kick in the ass! |
| 00:41.39 | gravity | houman_zhu: Doing a backport isn't trivial, although you can try it. |
| 00:41.43 | houman_zhu | gravity: i just dumped ubuntu for debian, i aont going back :p |
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| 00:42.01 | HeLpSysTeM | how to reconfigure my screen reseltion or X |
| 00:42.03 | houman_zhu | gravity: it sjust one package, i compile a lot of stuff from source |
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| 00:42.34 | starscalling | question please: |
| 00:42.34 | gravity | houman_zhu: Well, you can download the etch package source and try building it on sarge |
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| 00:42.38 | gravity | houman_zhu: It may work easily |
| 00:42.48 | gravity | houman_zhu: You may have to do some *serious* porting work though |
| 00:42.51 | houman_zhu | yea thats what abrotman said |
| 00:43.00 | starscalling | how hard is it to get debian running fairly nice ... kinda like the functionality of a default ubuntu installation? |
| 00:43.04 | zxsykco | I want a kick in the ass, you ninny! |
| 00:43.21 | gravity | starscalling: Fairly easy really. You just have to choose to install all the same stuff that ubuntu chooses for you |
| 00:43.37 | gravity | starscalling: Install the desktop task and it should generally give you all that stuff |
| 00:43.48 | starscalling | desktop taks? |
| 00:43.51 | starscalling | *task? |
| 00:44.00 | starscalling | apt-get install gnome-desktop ??? |
| 00:44.00 | gravity | starscalling: Their acpi stuff is better, and their X server is better too, but other than that it'll all work well |
| 00:44.05 | gravity | starscalling: tasksel |
| 00:44.10 | starscalling | ah |
| 00:44.16 | gravity | Or aptitude, depending on your preference |
| 00:44.20 | starscalling | and what is acpi and x server to do wit hthings? |
| 00:44.25 | starscalling | *with things |
| 00:44.30 | w3rdn4 | (WinXP ---- <m0n0wall> ---- Debian) |
| 00:44.30 | starscalling | sorry im still kinda new at it XD |
| 00:44.39 | houman_zhu | whats the latest kernel on sarge? 2.6.8? |
| 00:44.43 | gravity | starscalling: acpi is for power management, like on a laptop. |
| 00:44.50 | starscalling | but after 3 installs of ubuntu i think im about ready for this |
| 00:44.56 | starscalling | ah i dont need poweh management |
| 00:45.00 | starscalling | :) |
| 00:45.08 | gravity | starscalling: The X server manages your graphics device and such. For newer cards, you may need to do some custom stuff but for older cards you should be fine with what Debian ships in sarge. |
| 00:45.20 | houman_zhu | starscalling: i just dumped ubuntu for debian too, right before breezy came out :S |
| 00:45.20 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.34 | starscalling | nvidia fx 5200 is supported rather well in debian i would think no? |
| 00:45.34 | gravity | xfoxx: #xorg can't help you with your messed up debian install |
| 00:45.45 | starscalling | houman_zhu: dont get breezy |
| 00:45.46 | baron | really does anyone have any advice concerning opengl on debian? |
| 00:45.53 | starscalling | even making mkv play is a real asre90r243 |
| 00:46.06 | gravity | baron: What about it? |
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| 00:46.47 | houman_zhu | starscalling: why not? i honestly think ubuntu is an awsome distro, i came to debian just so the gentoo nerds wouldnt make fun of me, theyre scared of debian |
| 00:47.05 | starscalling | lol houman_zhu |
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| 00:47.10 | houman_zhu | starscalling: im kidding, but seriously i think breezy would have been awsome |
| 00:47.15 | starscalling | because a lot of it still needs maturing :O |
| 00:47.21 | baron | gravity: i don't know which package to install for opengl development. in dselect there are only about 9 packages containing the search string "gl" and the only apparently relevant ones are both installed, however i still have no "gl.h" header file, so clearly i don't have an opengl development environment installed |
| 00:47.32 | starscalling | the concept is awesome mind you.. but i just cant take it anymore :P |
| 00:47.58 | starscalling | well |
| 00:48.05 | starscalling | ill install debian tonight i guess... |
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| 00:48.33 | houman_zhu | should i get kernel-image-2.6-686 or kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 ? whats th edifference? |
| 00:49.13 | gravity | baron: Try xlibmesa-gl-dev |
| 00:49.35 | gravity | baron: That's got the gl.h file you're looking for |
| 00:49.36 | baron | gravity, how do i try it if it doesn't appear to be in dselect? |
| 00:49.46 | gravity | baron: Hrm? What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 00:50.11 | baron | gravity, i just downloaded what looked like a very recent ISO this morning -- can you tell me how to check? |
| 00:50.21 | gravity | baron: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:50.31 | liable | houman_zhu: 2.6-686 is a meta package that will upgrade your kernel on a dist-upgrade if a new on comes out. |
| 00:50.47 | houman_zhu | gravity: how can i check the date of a package with apt? |
| 00:50.53 | baron | gravity, when i updated my package list it seemed to have appeared (or maybe i didn't notice it because the "-dev" portion of the package name gets cut off) |
| 00:51.02 | gravity | houman_zhu: The date? What do you mean? |
| 00:51.13 | gravity | baron: Ah, Ok. |
| 00:51.25 | gravity | baron: If you hadn't updated after installing from a single CD, then it wouldn't have been there |
| 00:51.33 | houman_zhu | liable: so if i wanna install the 2.6.8 i should go for the non-meta package? |
| 00:51.35 | gravity | baron: It'd be on the net but not an install CD |
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| 00:52.52 | houman_zhu | gravity: liek the release date of a deb package ? :) |
| 00:53.10 | gravity | houman_zhu: It's in the changelog (/usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog.Debian) |
| 00:53.14 | [Deek] | gravity: acpi does more than PM |
| 00:53.23 | gravity | houman_zhu: But you're more likely interested in the package version than the date |
| 00:53.27 | gravity | [Deek]: Oh? |
| 00:53.37 | [Deek] | It also replaces pnp. |
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| 00:54.09 | houman_zhu | gravity: yea that wa my earlier question i wanna get the 2.6 kernel cuz now i have the 2.4 and ther is 2 packages and i cant tell which is what |
| 00:54.11 | gravity | Interesting. I didn't know that. |
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| 00:54.20 | liable | houman_zhu: either way, you will get the 2.6.. |
| 00:54.26 | hackeron | any ideas at all? I get nvidia: version magic '2.6.12 preempt gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.12 gcc-3.4' when I try to modprobe the nvidia module |
| 00:54.27 | gravity | houman_zhu: liable is right |
| 00:54.30 | gravity | Just pick one |
| 00:54.34 | houman_zhu | k, thanks |
| 00:54.47 | gravity | houman_zhu: If you need to know the difference, I *highly* recommend reading the descriptions of each package |
| 00:54.49 | houman_zhu | hope it doesnt break anythign :) |
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| 00:54.51 | [Deek] | gravity: Yeah, it does the pnp on my thinkpad. |
| 00:54.51 | gravity | houman_zhu: Those are there for a reason |
| 00:55.11 | houman_zhu | i read them, it just says the kernel image for celeron /p2/p4 thats it |
| 00:55.35 | [Deek] | I should disable that part until pnptools works with ACPI PNP |
| 00:55.38 | gravity | Well, pick the one that's right for you |
| 00:55.54 | houman_zhu | grav ity: how do i read the package description? is three a command? |
| 00:55.59 | Caelum | what's a good irc proxy that can be invoked by ssh? |
| 00:56.00 | liable | houman_zhu: if you install the meta package, it depends on the latest kernel, and will always upgrade it if a new one is released.. |
| 00:56.06 | gravity | houman_zhu: How are you finding the package name to begin with? |
| 00:56.07 | Caelum | houman_zhu: apt-cache show <package> |
| 00:56.22 | houman_zhu | i did apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 00:56.30 | gravity | Then do apt-cache show |
| 00:56.38 | houman_zhu | k, thanks |
| 00:56.41 | gravity | Alternately, you can use an interactive frontend like aptitude or dselect |
| 00:56.51 | gravity | I don't know why people have an aversion to such things. |
| 00:56.56 | houman_zhu | nah i think apt is fine, i gotta get used to it if i wanna use debian :) |
| 00:57.08 | gravity | No you don't |
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| 00:57.13 | gravity | I almost never use apt-get |
| 00:57.18 | houman_zhu | why?is aptitude better? |
| 00:57.20 | gravity | And I've used Debian for years |
| 00:57.27 | gravity | I like it better |
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| 00:57.42 | houman_zhu | but theyre a frontend to the same system, i cant imagine them being too different |
| 00:57.50 | [Deek] | I only recently switched away from dselect |
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| 00:57.55 | gravity | apt-get works better for some people, but don't feel like you have to use it. aptitude/synaptic/dselect are perfectly acceptable |
| 00:58.21 | gravity | houman_zhu: aptitude has features that apt-get doesn't have, like remembering which packages were installed simply to satisfy dependencies |
| 00:58.24 | [Deek] | However, I use aptitude for almost everything I used to use apt-get for. |
| 00:58.26 | gravity | Plus, aptitude has an interactive mode |
| 00:58.39 | gravity | Which is a godsend for doing complex things |
| 00:58.43 | [Deek] | aptitude install vs. apt-get install |
| 00:59.17 | houman_zhu | wow, ok i guess i gotta learn that too, cuz im new to debian and before the names of apt-get and debian were liek synonomeous, so i assumed thats the way to go |
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| 00:59.31 | gravity | By all means, use apt-get if you like it, but don't feel like it's the end-all be-all |
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| 01:35.19 | billguedes | what's overview? |
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| 01:35.34 | jim | pfr has a good suggestion; you can find it that way too |
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| 01:35.41 | [Deek] | billguedes: as in...? |
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| 01:36.05 | jim | what's over view is what view is under |
| 01:36.12 | billguedes | [Deek], I'm from brazil |
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| 01:36.16 | abrotman | jim: did that guy ever answer? |
| 01:36.24 | abrotman | guess not |
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| 01:36.27 | lightbright | danieldg: how do I set up a webserver in Sarge? |
| 01:36.33 | jim | I dont' think so, but he might have |
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| 01:36.38 | [Deek] | billguedes: and that means what to me? |
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| 01:36.45 | AptGet | hello guys |
| 01:36.48 | danieldg | lightbright: install apache2 or apache |
| 01:36.52 | lightbright | !webserver |
| 01:37.07 | lightbright | danieldg: whats difference between apache2 and apache? |
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| 01:37.20 | Caelum | lightbright: apache2 is better |
| 01:37.23 | lightbright | danieldg: apt-get install apache2 ? |
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| 01:37.28 | danieldg | lightbright: yes |
| 01:37.33 | lightbright | Caelum: I type 'apt-get install apache2' ? |
| 01:37.36 | lightbright | ok ty |
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| 01:37.46 | Caelum | lightbright: also see apt-cache search apache2 |
| 01:37.51 | billguedes | the word "overview" don't there in dictionary |
| 01:38.06 | Xenguy | !dict overview |
| 01:38.07 | lightbright | Caelum: thanks |
| 01:38.08 | dpkg | could not find definition for overview |
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| 01:38.27 | robin_sz | girls, quicky .. I know about RFC1918 and the various private network address spaces .. but where does all this 169.254.x.x stuff come from?? |
| 01:38.31 | danieldg | lightbright: that will set up a server for anyone, you may want to firewall it or change the config to only accept from 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:38.34 | peterS | the few, the proud ... the 65 #debian users |
| 01:38.39 | lightbright | Caelum: and if apache2 is installed, how do I load and test a website locally that contains PHP , Mysql etc? |
| 01:38.45 | peterS | don't know when I last saw it this empty (: |
| 01:38.50 | lightbright | danieldg: ok ty |
| 01:38.56 | billguedes | dpkg, why? |
| 01:38.56 | dpkg | Because! |
| 01:39.13 | danieldg | lightbright: you have to install the php, mysql, and other packages too |
| 01:39.14 | abrotman | peterS: I'M STILL HERE!!!! |
| 01:39.18 | pfr | peterS: make that 64. i just came here from #gnustep because Deek said there was something wrong :-) |
| 01:39.21 | [Deek] | An Overview is a "far away" look at something, as if you're looking down from an airplane. |
| 01:39.23 | abrotman | peterS: and i can still use apostrophes!!! |
| 01:39.38 | peterS | abrotman: you got kicked off just before I did, some 40 minutes ago. but I wasn't around so I didn't reconnect until now |
| 01:39.39 | lightbright | danieldg: apt-get install php && mysql ? |
| 01:39.43 | peterS | errr, rejoin |
| 01:39.55 | abrotman | peterS: when i joined ... it was just alindema and myself :) |
| 01:39.59 | xfoxx | how do i change from GDM to KDM??? |
| 01:40.00 | abrotman | peterS: it was creepy |
| 01:40.03 | peterS | abrotman: wow |
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| 01:40.13 | peterS | abrotman: did he have any debian questions you could answer? |
| 01:40.21 | jim | i=lo |
| 01:40.26 | [Deek] | Yeah, when I got here there were like 6 of us |
| 01:40.47 | peterS | xfoxx: simplest way is to install kdm. it will ask you during the install if you want to use it instead |
| 01:40.47 | abrotman | peterS: he wanted to know how to make his apps faster! |
| 01:40.55 | peterS | xfoxx: if you've already installed both, 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' |
| 01:41.04 | lightbright | how can I install php and mysql after I installed apache2 please? |
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| 01:41.30 | jim | lilo/alindeman/whoever: did you guys restart the servers recently? |
| 01:41.30 | peterS | lightbright: the php package is called libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 01:41.37 | abrotman | lightbright: LightVision .. you came back!! |
| 01:41.40 | peterS | lightbright: and the mysql package is 'mysql-server' or something like that |
| 01:41.42 | jim | and are they split or something? |
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| 01:41.59 | danieldg | jim: the large channels got cleared |
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| 01:42.32 | peterS | jim: just a matter of time before the rest of the 800 users notice they got kicked off #debian by a bot, and rejoin. I figure the channel will be normal size in 2 days |
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| 01:43.00 | abrotman | bummer |
| 01:43.01 | lightbright | peterS: ok thanks! so after apache2 is installed, I type "apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server" |
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| 01:43.08 | abrotman | lightbright: LightVision .. you came back!! |
| 01:43.14 | peterS | lightbright: something like that. I'm not positive about the mysql server package name |
| 01:43.18 | jim | lots of times it takes longer than that to become normal... some of those idlers won't notice for a few days ;) |
| 01:43.29 | lightbright | peterS: how would I find out the proper name? |
| 01:43.30 | peterS | lightbright: ...but 'apt-cache search mysql server' is how you'd probably verify this |
| 01:43.30 | [Deek] | peterS: Except for that whole "forbidden channel" thing. |
| 01:43.42 | lightbright | peterS: ok ty |
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| 01:43.51 | jim | proper names usually start with a cap |
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| 01:44.10 | abrotman | alindeman: that person i pointed out earlier was totally innocent? |
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| 01:44.26 | billguedes | [Deek], tkans |
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| 01:45.37 | liable | abrotman: didnt see the troll by GNAA in #freenode? |
| 01:45.44 | abrotman | liable: i saw |
| 01:45.49 | abrotman | liable: do you want it repeated ? |
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| 01:45.57 | liable | abrotman: no... |
| 01:46.00 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:46.00 | IcE-bOy_ | hi |
| 01:46.03 | IcE-bOy_ | how can i send html mail with mutt ? |
| 01:46.12 | abrotman | peterS: do you know why ChanServ likes me ? |
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| 01:46.27 | IcE-bOy_ | i want to send something like ... echo <HTML>....</HTML> | mutt mail@mail.com |
| 01:46.28 | jim | write out a file named somethingorother.html |
| 01:46.28 | IcE-bOy_ | thanks |
| 01:46.29 | Jason-Bourne | how stable is my woody |
| 01:46.32 | jim | attach |
| 01:46.32 | peterS | abrotman: he's just in the mood for love |
| 01:46.39 | abrotman | peterS: i meant the topic |
| 01:46.42 | peterS | yes |
| 01:46.43 | IcE-bOy_ | jim, ok, thanks |
| 01:46.45 | timgoh0 | peterS: Does chanserv only like abrotman? |
| 01:46.52 | abrotman | he doesn't like me |
| 01:46.53 | peterS | timgoh0: not according to the topic |
| 01:46.57 | peterS | !topicsmite timgoh0 |
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| 01:47.00 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon timgoh0. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 01:47.27 | jim | terrible furry? |
| 01:47.35 | servus | I knew a terrible furry once. |
| 01:47.37 | timgoh0 | peterS: But the topic says chanserv like ME! :) |
| 01:47.39 | lightbright | peterS: ive installed libapache2-mod-php4 and apache2, but how do I now load and check my php and html files? :) |
| 01:47.40 | peterS | that's a terrible pun, even |
| 01:47.48 | peterS | timgoh0: so why did you ask if it only likes abrotman? |
| 01:47.54 | jim | yeah, really stinky |
| 01:48.16 | jim | what's this thing about chanserv liking people? |
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| 01:48.33 | timgoh0 | peterS: Well, i am feeling unloved this morning. :) |
| 01:48.43 | abrotman | !screw timgoh0 |
| 01:48.44 | timgoh0 | peterS: Probably because i've not had my coffee. |
| 01:48.49 | peterS | lightbright: that's really beyond the scope of this channel. but briefly, if you haven't configured your web server, debian puts it in the state of allowing you to put files in /var/www, or (like most default configs) ~/public_html for any user |
| 01:48.50 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 01:48.50 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
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| 01:48.52 | dvsdude | why is the 2.4.27 kernel still used in base installs for debian and not say 2.6 + kernel?? |
| 01:49.01 | lightbright | peterS: do I just type 127.0.0.1 in firefox? |
| 01:49.02 | abrotman | dvsdude: because YOU didn't READ the install guide |
| 01:49.05 | peterS | timgoh0: that might be why. I haven't had my coffee in a couple of weeks |
| 01:49.12 | lightbright | dvsdude: good question |
| 01:49.13 | abrotman | !ig |
| 01:49.13 | dpkg | well, ig is the install guide for stable: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for woody (oldstable): http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual |
| 01:49.13 | peterS | lightbright: or localhost |
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| 01:49.38 | IcE-bOy_ | jim, but if i attach it i see it like an attachment file (the .html file) not include into mail |
| 01:49.39 | dvsdude | abrotman: good answer but is the answer to my question there? |
| 01:49.43 | abrotman | dvsdude: had you read the install guide .. or hell .. even read the help screens on the installer .. you'd have known how to get a 2.6 kernel for the install |
| 01:49.44 | jim | dvsdude: in the case of sarge, it's the default kernel... sarge is released, so for stability reasons packages don't change |
| 01:49.45 | peterS | actually, hmmm. does sarge apache2 default to /var/www or /srv/something? |
| 01:49.49 | timgoh0 | Right. Time for caffeination. Before i do something stupid in the channel. |
| 01:49.57 | jim | err package versions don't change |
| 01:49.59 | abrotman | peterS: /var/www/ |
| 01:50.01 | timgoh0 | peterS: It's /var/www/ |
| 01:50.16 | timgoh0 | peterS: With a RedirectMatch to apache2-default/ |
| 01:50.17 | peterS | they'll probably switch the default to /srv sooner or later, just didn't know if it'd happened yet |
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| 01:50.21 | jim | IcE-bOy_: that's how you do it |
| 01:50.22 | lightbright | peterS: I have installed libapache2-mod-php4 and apache2, but how do I now load and check my php files? |
| 01:50.24 | Lordnazgul | just got a new jumpdrive. and when i try to mount it it is giving me an error saying that it cannot find a valid FAT filesystem. any ideas? |
| 01:50.37 | IcE-bOy_ | jim, = |
| 01:50.38 | IcE-bOy_ | ? |
| 01:50.40 | peterS | lightbright: if you don't know how to load html files into a directory we told you about, you should hire a webmaster |
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| 01:50.45 | timgoh0 | Lordnazgul: Describe your mounting proceedure. |
| 01:51.02 | EvanCarroll | Does debian ever have plans on updating apache-perl, to apache2? |
| 01:51.07 | Lordnazgul | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usb |
| 01:51.18 | EvanCarroll | Or know where I can get more information on the future plans for the package |
| 01:51.19 | dvsdude | abrotman: fair enough |
| 01:51.21 | jim | hmm, no question... no information... hmm! no nothing! |
| 01:51.27 | peterS | Lordnazgul: chances are you are getting the partitions wrong. some drives come preformatted with a partition table, some come preformatted without one. you can add or remove a partition table if you prefer one or the other, of course |
| 01:51.30 | lightbright | peterS: i have all the files and php files in a directory! but how can I run it all from apache2? |
| 01:51.38 | IcE-bOy_ | jim, so ... i can't send html mail using mutt directly ? |
| 01:51.40 | Lordnazgul | so i should try sda2 |
| 01:51.44 | [Deek] | At what point did it switch to ub*, anyway? |
| 01:51.48 | IcE-bOy_ | with Content Type html ? |
| 01:51.57 | peterS | lightbright: make sure that directory is configured to be used by apache. look in /etc/apache2 for how to do that |
| 01:51.58 | danieldg | lightbright: copy the directory into /var/www |
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| 01:52.02 | abrotman | lightbright: php.net httpd.apache.org .. learn how to use your software |
| 01:52.02 | jim | probably not, but I'm not sure. what do you expect mutt to do? |
| 01:52.08 | timgoh0 | Lordnazgul: Try mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/usb |
| 01:52.19 | peterS | abrotman: I still think hiring a webmaster is a good plan here |
| 01:52.25 | [Deek] | or /dev/uba if that doesn't work |
| 01:52.29 | lightbright | danieldg: ok thanks |
| 01:52.31 | jim | it would have to write out a .html file that's based on the text file, then attach |
| 01:52.40 | abrotman | peterS: you realize lightbright is lightvision/whitelight/lisa/eutopia .. right ? |
| 01:52.45 | peterS | [Deek]: debian kernel binaries don't come with /dev/ub support, I believe |
| 01:52.55 | peterS | abrotman: I'm not aware of all her aliases, no |
| 01:53.06 | IcE-bOy_ | jim, send an HTML inform about system .. |
| 01:53.07 | abrotman | peterS: you only had to be aware of one :) |
| 01:53.11 | peterS | true |
| 01:53.12 | IcE-bOy_ | only this |
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| 01:53.21 | abrotman | !seen eutopia |
| 01:53.22 | dpkg | eutopia <n=lisa@071.a.001lg.syd.iprimus.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 47d 1h 17m 26s ago, saying: 'mwilson: indeed'. |
| 01:53.33 | jim | but if you look at it from another point of view... yes, you can directly send html mail... by attaching an html file |
| 01:54.09 | abrotman | noone wants HTML mail |
| 01:54.10 | peterS | jim: yeah but that doesn't display as conveniently at the other end. I'm sure he's talking about html as the main body, or in a multipart/alternative scheme |
| 01:54.36 | IcE-bOy_ | but if i do this, then mail client should show this like an attachment |
| 01:54.39 | [Deek] | peterS: maybe, but lots of people still make their own kernels. :) |
| 01:54.51 | peterS | abrotman: I should configure mutt to send multipart/alternative with text/plain and application/x-dvi |
| 01:55.04 | Lordnazgul | peterS: that didnt work got the same message: |
| 01:55.04 | Lordnazgul | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, |
| 01:55.05 | Lordnazgul | when i dmesg | tail i get : |
| 01:55.05 | Lordnazgul | scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices |
| 01:55.05 | Lordnazgul | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.05 | Lordnazgul | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.07 | Lordnazgul | SCSI device sda: 1007616 512-byte hdwr sectors (516 MB) |
| 01:55.09 | peterS | abrotman: see how people like their wasted mbox quotas |
| 01:55.09 | Lordnazgul | sda: assuming Write Enabled |
| 01:55.10 | jim | peterS: but html as the main body wouldn't be mime |
| 01:55.11 | Lordnazgul | sda: assuming drive cache: write through |
| 01:55.12 | abrotman | debhelper!!! |
| 01:55.13 | Lordnazgul | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.14 | abrotman | Lordnazgul: STOP |
| 01:55.16 | Lordnazgul | USB Mass Storage device found at 4 |
| 01:55.18 | Lordnazgul | FAT: invalid media value (0xb9) |
| 01:55.18 | jim | NOW |
| 01:55.18 | abrotman | fucking |
| 01:55.20 | Lordnazgul | VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda. |
| 01:55.22 | Lordnazgul | sorry i didnt mean to do that |
| 01:55.22 | abrotman | caphuso: !! |
| 01:55.29 | abrotman | caphuso: nm .. he stoppped .. sorry |
| 01:55.34 | timgoh0 | Lordnazgul: Paste somewhere else. |
| 01:55.36 | peterS | Lordnazgul: yes you did. you wanted me to see the multi-line output. this is NOT HOW YOU DO THAT |
| 01:55.37 | jim | could we kick this guy for about a half hour? |
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| 01:55.51 | abrotman | jim: we should just close the channel :) |
| 01:55.56 | [Deek] | haha |
| 01:55.59 | timgoh0 | Lordnazgul: fdisk /dev/sda and hit p for print. |
| 01:56.00 | peterS | !ops someone fix debhelper or manually kick flooders plskthx |
| 01:56.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: someone fix debhelper or manually kick flooders plskthx |
| 01:56.22 | abrotman | peterS: debhelper is on ucr isn't he ? |
| 01:56.26 | peterS | s/fix/reconnect/ I guess, and "someone" would be dondelelcaro, who also isn't on channel |
| 01:56.29 | Lordnazgul | timgohO: type is w95 fat 16 |
| 01:56.41 | lightbright | danieldg: i copied all files into /var/www but how do I now load the index.php ? |
| 01:56.53 | peterS | lightbright: very carefully |
| 01:56.57 | timgoh0 | Lordnazgul: Q to quit and retry mounting with mount /dev/sda /yourmountpoint |
| 01:56.58 | servus | With a web browser? |
| 01:57.02 | abrotman | TMI .. |
| 01:57.05 | danieldg | lightbright: edit the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file |
| 01:57.10 | abrotman | shouldn't have to |
| 01:57.20 | abrotman | libapache2-mod-php4 should have done it |
| 01:57.29 | Lordnazgul | timgohO i tried that, just got the same problem |
| 01:57.30 | lightbright | danieldg: ok |
| 01:57.45 | danieldg | lightbright: did you try it without editing? it may work |
| 01:58.03 | timgoh0 | Lordnazgul: Could be just that it has a faulty or corrupt filesystem? Format it again? |
| 01:58.10 | Lordnazgul | ok |
| 01:58.16 | Lordnazgul | ill try that |
| 01:58.33 | lightbright | danieldg: try what? |
| 01:58.49 | lightbright | danieldg: how can I try it first? |
| 01:59.01 | danieldg | lightbright: go to http://localhost/ |
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| 01:59.10 | lightbright | danieldg: ok ill try |
| 01:59.20 | flora | please help, i'm kinda new and just need to know how to stop apache2 |
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| 01:59.31 | flora | for some reason, i get this when i try /etc/init.d/apache2 stop: Stopping web server: Apache2 ... no pidfile found! not running?. |
| 01:59.32 | abrotman | flora: /etc/init.d/apache* stop |
| 01:59.43 | danieldg | flora: killall apache2 |
| 01:59.43 | lightbright | danieldg: it says: If you can see this, it means that the installation of the Apache web server software on this system was successful. You may now add content to this directory and replace this page. |
| 01:59.46 | abrotman | killall apache2 |
| 01:59.48 | EvanCarroll | apachectl stop |
| 01:59.58 | abrotman | remove the stupid index.html |
| 01:59.59 | EvanCarroll | apache2ctl stop/greceful |
| 02:00.05 | abrotman | graceful even |
| 02:00.09 | EvanCarroll | yar |
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| 02:00.33 | lightbright | danieldg: but I have files in var/www yet it doesnt load |
| 02:00.46 | flora | killall apache2 didn't work either |
| 02:00.49 | pazzesco | is there a way to make Debian auto backup the DB every night? |
| 02:00.51 | danieldg | lightbright: remove /var/www/apache2-default |
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| 02:00.57 | abrotman | remove the stupid index.html |
| 02:01.01 | jim | flora: purim? |
| 02:01.06 | flora | what is purim? |
| 02:01.11 | dvsdude | lightbright: does it load when http://localhost/index.php if so edit http.conf |
| 02:01.26 | abrotman | or remove the index.html!!!! |
| 02:01.38 | abrotman | flora: jewish holiday for one thing |
| 02:01.43 | jim | a brazillian singer named flora! |
| 02:02.01 | peterS | I guess "..and replace this page" is a real corker |
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| 02:02.03 | flora | please help i really need to stop apache2 so i can backup its configs |
| 02:02.11 | abrotman | no you don't |
| 02:02.15 | abrotman | just back them up |
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| 02:02.31 | flora | abrotman i do because i'm doing it remotely with rsync |
| 02:02.39 | lightbright | dvsdude: it says The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.! but the index.php is indeed in the var/www |
| 02:02.42 | abrotman | flora: and? |
| 02:02.52 | abrotman | FFS ... |
| 02:02.56 | abrotman | send her to fucking #apache |
| 02:02.57 | flora | and when i rsync it the files that are in use are empty |
| 02:03.11 | abrotman | or #php |
| 02:03.20 | peterS | lightbright: figure it out from /var/log/apache/error.log I guess |
| 02:03.24 | lightbright | danieldg: I removed all the files, apache2-default etc! and placed in there all my php and html and index.php files! But when I type "http://localhost/index.php" it says not found |
| 02:03.28 | peterS | or whatever the apache2 equivalent is |
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| 02:04.32 | lightbright | peterS: the logs said [client 127.0.0.1] script '/var/www/index.php' not found or unable to stat |
| 02:04.47 | abrotman | httpd.apache.org/docs |
| 02:04.49 | lightbright | peterS: how do I start apache2? |
| 02:05.02 | xfoxx | how do i restart an especific program without having to reboot PC? |
| 02:05.03 | dvsdude | lightbright: go rtfm |
| 02:05.08 | peterS | lightbright: not found or unable to stat - not too many possibilities there. if it's lying to you, that's something you'll have to work out |
| 02:05.26 | lightbright | dvsdude: no need to be rude |
| 02:05.28 | flora | so no one can tell me how to stop apache when /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and killall apache2 don't work? |
| 02:05.38 | peterS | and your problem is not the ability to start apache2. it is clearly running already. but if you need to, run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' |
| 02:05.41 | abrotman | flora: someone already told you |
| 02:05.48 | abrotman | flora: apachectl stop |
| 02:06.05 | peterS | does that work for apache2? |
| 02:06.12 | peterS | I thought apache2 had a new name for apachectl |
| 02:06.14 | abrotman | dunno |
| 02:06.14 | flora | abrotman: command not found |
| 02:06.18 | dvsdude | lightbright: not mean b rude but dude you need to read some basics by the sound of it |
| 02:06.19 | abrotman | hrm |
| 02:06.20 | peterS | like it starts with a2 |
| 02:06.28 | abrotman | oh .. hrm .. probably |
| 02:06.41 | dvsdude | /etc/init.d/apache start |
| 02:06.50 | flora | when i do apache2ctl stop i get the same thing... httpd (no pid file) not running |
| 02:07.01 | flora | but its still running :| |
| 02:07.02 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:07.12 | flora | me neither! |
| 02:07.15 | flora | i dunno wtf is going on |
| 02:07.27 | jim | flora: do you have to do this remotely? |
| 02:07.32 | timgoh0 | flora: Have you perhaps taken a look at the output of ps? |
| 02:07.33 | abrotman | it is apache2 |
| 02:07.35 | pazzesco | is there a way to make my servers DB auto backup every nigh in Debian? |
| 02:07.35 | abrotman | killall apache2 |
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| 02:07.37 | flora | jim: i'm ssh'd into the box |
| 02:07.46 | jim | that should work |
| 02:07.59 | nimak | what happened? |
| 02:08.00 | jim | how are you checking for whether it's running? |
| 02:08.06 | nimak | about 4 hours ago |
| 02:08.14 | flora | killall apache2 gives me "no process killed" |
| 02:08.19 | jim | nimak: oh, 4 hours? I ate some ice cream! |
| 02:08.20 | flora | jim: i'm surfing the website |
| 02:08.21 | nimak | with the channel |
| 02:08.38 | abrotman | flora: apache2ctl |
| 02:08.45 | nimak | i could go for some ice cream right about now |
| 02:08.51 | flora | abrotman: apache2ctl says the same thing |
| 02:08.51 | jim | I dunno; I was busy with the ice cream! |
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| 02:09.01 | abrotman | says what? |
| 02:09.10 | flora | httpd (no pid file) not running |
| 02:09.20 | abrotman | flora: how about `ps aux | grep apache2 | xargs kill -9` ? |
| 02:09.29 | abrotman | ffs .. does ps aux even show it running ? |
| 02:09.34 | abrotman | or rather ps ax |
| 02:09.52 | jim | flora: could it be that the site you're browsing is not the same as the one for that machine? |
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| 02:09.58 | peterS | abrotman: that'll throw a lot of errors about killing things that aren't job numbers or PID numbers |
| 02:10.01 | nimak | anyways, do you know how i can get ACPI to load without trying to load ACPI_CPUFREQ? |
| 02:10.04 | flora | ps ax | grep apache gives me nothing |
| 02:10.13 | pfr | flora: then apache isn't running |
| 02:10.18 | flora | jim: i'm certain |
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| 02:10.25 | abrotman | peterS: oh yeah .. shit :) |
| 02:10.26 | nimak | (google doesnt help) |
| 02:10.27 | pfr | flora: which is why there's no pidfile |
| 02:10.27 | timgoh0 | flora: You're probably looking at a cache page. |
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| 02:10.30 | HeLpSysTeM | hello my vlc video work fine but my vlc audio not working |
| 02:10.30 | abrotman | flora: then apache ISN"T Running |
| 02:10.37 | peterS | yeah, hit reload |
| 02:10.41 | flora | timgoh0: i've held down shift-ctrl-refresh |
| 02:10.41 | peterS | in your browser |
| 02:10.43 | abrotman | shift-reload |
| 02:10.44 | jim | ok, look thru the listing (take the | grep off) |
| 02:10.48 | nimak | HeLpSysTeM: |
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| 02:10.51 | nimak | oops |
| 02:11.01 | abrotman | or maybe flora isn't using debian and it's called httpd |
| 02:11.04 | nimak | HeLpSysTeM: do other audio programs work? |
| 02:11.11 | HeLpSysTeM | nimak, yes perfectly |
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| 02:11.26 | lightbright | peterS: it shows all my files, but when I try to click on and load a php file , it shows an empty page! why? I installed php |
| 02:11.29 | HeLpSysTeM | Xine work perfectly but in vlc i can watch but can't hear |
| 02:11.29 | flora | holy cow this is crazy |
| 02:11.34 | flora | jim: i don't see it in the list |
| 02:11.43 | nimak | httpd = apache2 |
| 02:11.44 | nimak | i think |
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| 02:11.56 | jim | flora: do you see httpd in the list? |
| 02:12.12 | flora | jim: nope |
| 02:12.14 | abrotman | flora: then apache isn't running .. telnet IP 80 ... GET / |
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| 02:13.09 | jim | if flora is getting results, could that be because there is a web cache in front of it |
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| 02:13.25 | pfr | like squid |
| 02:13.27 | abrotman | yay .. debhelper !! |
| 02:13.32 | lightbright | I installed libapache2-mod-php4 , yet whenever I load a php file, the page is blank! anyone know why? |
| 02:13.41 | nimak | HeLpSysTeM: Settings > Preferences > Audio |
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| 02:13.45 | roboo | hi. |
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| 02:13.49 | abrotman | lightbright: ask #php |
| 02:13.49 | lightbright | could my php files be too old? |
| 02:13.54 | flora | jim: there's no webcache either |
| 02:14.04 | roboo | is there something to use dns cache on my local computer ? |
| 02:14.07 | HeLpSysTeM | i'm there nimak |
| 02:14.19 | flora | www:/# /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 02:14.20 | flora | Starting web server: Apache2. |
| 02:14.20 | flora | www:/# /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
| 02:14.20 | flora | Stopping web server: Apache2 ... no pidfile found! not running?. |
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| 02:14.38 | flora | oops |
| 02:14.43 | roboo | sometimes our isp has problem with dns.. how can i cache dns and use them if my dns don't solve.. |
| 02:15.00 | nimak | HeLpSysTeM: Set it to the correct output module |
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| 02:15.12 | lightbright | flora: hehe |
| 02:15.15 | HeLpSysTeM | nimak, it is alsa |
| 02:15.15 | dvsdude | roboo: set up your own dns locally |
| 02:15.18 | flora | ugh |
| 02:15.19 | HeLpSysTeM | and no sound |
| 02:15.21 | lightbright | flora: can you load php files locally? |
| 02:15.30 | abrotman | flora: ps ax | grep apache .. fuser -n tcp 80 .. netstat -an | grep 80 .. telnet <IP> 80 .. |
| 02:15.30 | flora | lightbright: yes |
| 02:16.18 | jim | flora: what happens when you reboot the server (warning: consider -carefully- whether you will do this; by remote, there are risks) |
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| 02:17.03 | flora | jim that's what i'm afraid of doing... when i look at the server console directly it was filled with crazy errors |
| 02:17.09 | flora | i just wanted to grab a backup before reboot |
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| 02:17.20 | abrotman | flora: fuser -n tcp 80 |
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| 02:17.32 | abrotman | jim: starting to feel trolled yet? |
| 02:17.32 | HeLpSysTeM | nimak, is there any good VCD players that don't slow the system |
| 02:17.45 | sander__ | Oct 15 05:11:00 filmen kernel: tun: Can't register misc device 200 <-- when I do: modprobe tun |
| 02:18.01 | nimak | i think totem plays VCD |
| 02:18.06 | sander__ | /lib/modules/2.4.27-grsec/kernel/drivers/net/tun.o: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. |
| 02:18.26 | sander__ | anyone know why that happens?.. need to get the tun module working |
| 02:18.30 | jim | abrotman: not yet, and I won't be... jam session tonite :) |
| 02:18.41 | abrotman | jim: you never play philly! |
| 02:19.05 | jim | this is true :) I've never been there, so yes, I've never played there :) |
| 02:19.12 | abrotman | damn you Jim |
| 02:19.18 | abrotman | err Damn It Jim ... |
| 02:19.19 | jim | !yue |
| 02:19.21 | abrotman | stupid bot i am |
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| 02:20.03 | peterS | abotman? |
| 02:20.04 | jim | make up your mind :P |
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| 02:21.00 | EvanCarroll | part |
| 02:21.04 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 02:21.04 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
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| 02:21.22 | peterS | EvanCarroll was here? where is buu? |
| 02:21.23 | flora | abrotman thx for the fuser tip that helps |
| 02:21.36 | flora | i guess i just suck at everything |
| 02:21.44 | lightbright | flora: how did you get your php files to load? |
| 02:21.50 | abrotman | flora: was anyhting listening ? |
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| 02:22.14 | jim | flora: this isn't easy stuff... don't get discouraged |
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| 02:22.21 | flora | thx jim |
| 02:22.22 | abrotman | jim: yes it is! |
| 02:22.45 | flora | abrotman: yes it was listening as /usr/sbin/apache2... seven PIDs |
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| 02:22.58 | abrotman | flora: and you passed them via xargs to kill!!! |
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| 02:23.34 | lightbright | flora: I get it, only seek help, not willing to give anyone. ok |
| 02:23.46 | abrotman | flora: no? |
| 02:23.55 | flora | lightbright: what are you asking me? (sorry in case you couldn't tell i'm in the middle of my own ordeal) |
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| 02:24.03 | lightbright | jim: my php files are blank, know why? |
| 02:24.04 | jim | lightbright: maybe she didn't get that far :P |
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| 02:24.23 | jim | you haven't put anything on them? |
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| 02:24.35 | flora | abrotman: i killed killed killed 'em now i'm in a better space |
| 02:24.52 | flora | but i still am getting a blank .conf via the remote rsync |
| 02:25.03 | lightbright | jim: i mean, when I load the php files, the page is blank |
| 02:25.04 | abrotman | flora: what .conf are you trying to copy |
| 02:25.04 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:25.08 | lightbright | jim: anyidea why? |
| 02:25.14 | lightbright | jim: I installed libapache2-mod-php4 , yet whenever I load a php file, the page is blank! |
| 02:25.17 | abrotman | <? phpinfo(); ?> is a good test |
| 02:25.23 | flora | abrotman: my apache configs |
| 02:25.29 | jim | lightbright: the page didn't output anything? |
| 02:25.33 | abrotman | flora: yes .. i know .. WHICH file ? |
| 02:25.37 | HeLpSysTeM | any idea about best vcd player |
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| 02:25.50 | flora | sites-enabled/blah.conf |
| 02:25.59 | rafx | this page http://packages.debian.org/stable/interpreters/ruby1.8 has broken link to http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/ruby1.8/ruby1.8_1.8.2-7sarge2/changelog |
| 02:26.01 | jim | see tho... I don't use any of this stuff for making websites... I use aolserver, tcl, postgres, openacs |
| 02:26.03 | abrotman | flora: and you're doing an rsync ? |
| 02:26.07 | flora | yes sir |
| 02:26.16 | abrotman | rafx: file a bug |
| 02:26.17 | lightbright | jim: yeah, output is nothing |
| 02:26.25 | lightbright | jim: any idea why? |
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| 02:26.37 | abrotman | <? phpinfo(); ?> is a good test |
| 02:26.38 | jim | no, becasue I never worked thru any such problem |
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| 02:26.55 | [Deek] | and people wonder why I'm still using 1.3... |
| 02:26.56 | peterS | abrotman: you mean <?php phpinfo(); ?> |
| 02:27.06 | peterS | abrotman: <? only works if you've enabled it in php.ini |
| 02:27.15 | abrotman | peterS: which is done by default in debian |
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| 02:27.23 | jim | oh, and maybe neither of them yave |
| 02:27.25 | peterS | is it? I have no idea |
| 02:27.39 | flora | lightbright: i install debian sarge, do apt-get install apache2, do apt-get install php4-gd and voila it works |
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| 02:28.23 | jim | ok, I gotta go or I won't get there soon enuf to play |
| 02:28.24 | abrotman | peterS: yes .. i think <?php is stupid .. i'd know :) |
| 02:28.38 | jim | s/<?// |
| 02:28.41 | lightbright | flora: i didnt do apt-get install php4-gd |
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| 02:28.50 | flora | here's my rsync command: rsync -arvz 10.21.5.33:/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ /root/wbak/ --- when i run that all the apache files come through but they're empty |
| 02:29.00 | flora | lightbright: is php installed at all? |
| 02:29.00 | peterS | abrotman: well, <? is asp compatibility mode, so that's implicitly admitting that asp had it right all along |
| 02:29.06 | lightbright | flora: I did apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 02:29.12 | abrotman | peterS: no .. because asp is <% %> |
| 02:29.22 | abrotman | which JSP also can use |
| 02:29.25 | peterS | abrotman: it's still asp compatibility mode, last I checked anyway, which was like 5 years ago |
| 02:29.33 | jim | you all don't have a good templating system :) |
| 02:29.34 | abrotman | then JSP is wrong too |
| 02:29.45 | jim | openacs has a -great- one :) |
| 02:29.45 | servus | lightbright: ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled && apache2ctl restart |
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| 02:30.00 | peterS | abrotman: grep -B1 asp_tags /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
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| 02:30.09 | flora | lightbright: apache2 or apache? |
| 02:30.09 | peterS | or equivalent config file location on your system |
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| 02:30.26 | peterS | ahh, I see, there are two config directives, one for <? and one for <% |
| 02:30.29 | lightbright | flora: apache2 |
| 02:30.31 | [Deek] | The new apache config system drives me batty. |
| 02:30.38 | abrotman | peterS: i'm just saying that it's a misnomer IMO .. PHP,JSP,ASP all have some < > tag thing |
| 02:30.46 | lightbright | flora: should I have installed apache instead of apache2 perhaps? |
| 02:30.55 | flora | lightbright: what happens when you navigate to a .php file ? |
| 02:30.56 | abrotman | peterS: yeah .. there is a <% that can be used in PHP .. which is stupid :) |
| 02:31.05 | flora | no apache2 works nice for me |
| 02:31.10 | lightbright | flora: im now installing what you did |
| 02:31.10 | jim | why would the new apache config system drive a batty? |
| 02:31.20 | lightbright | flora: apt-get install php4-gd |
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| 02:31.41 | flora | hehehe good that's an important package to have for when you install moodle ;) |
| 02:31.42 | abrotman | why the fuck would flora want to do that ? |
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| 02:32.06 | lightbright | flora: blank screen |
| 02:32.09 | abrotman | nvz: go away! |
| 02:32.12 | pfr | i was away, did flora get her problem solved? |
| 02:32.16 | abrotman | lightbright: hit shift-reload |
| 02:32.19 | nvz | abrotman: fuck off :P |
| 02:32.22 | lightbright | maybe I shold try apache |
| 02:32.24 | flora | pfr: half way there :) |
| 02:32.28 | lightbright | remove apach2 |
| 02:32.30 | luddite | hey fellas, got a weird screen issue.. i dpkg-reconfigure xserver and although in the past i've had 1600x1200 no problem i only get 1024x768 on my desktop, i'm using gdm and debian etch |
| 02:32.36 | peterS | abrotman: hmmm, I'm dozing off at the keyboard for 30 seconds at a time. I think it's time to wrap up that 34 hours without sleep thing |
| 02:32.46 | flora | lightbright, reinstall debian from scratch, but when you get to the select packages screen, DON'T select anything |
| 02:32.52 | flora | sarge |
| 02:32.54 | abrotman | peterS: dude .. you need a regular sleep pattern :) |
| 02:32.59 | pfr | flora: when you finish up, tell me what it's like to sing with Chick Corea :-) |
| 02:33.11 | abrotman | peterS: don't worry ... i'll just take care of everyone! :) |
| 02:33.12 | pfr | I know nobody's going to get that... |
| 02:33.15 | flora | then first do apt-get install apache2 |
| 02:33.16 | nvz | is gnome supposed to monitor apps running with some program to tell if things have been deleted and move them to the "Trash"? |
| 02:33.19 | [Deek] | jim: It's all generalized an' stuff, I can't just dive in and fix it. |
| 02:33.24 | flora | pfr: processing.... i dig Chick tho |
| 02:33.39 | lightbright | flora: ROFL! yeah right |
| 02:33.41 | peterS | abrotman: actually that's not really true, I went to bed at about 6 this morning and woke up to a phone call at 7 |
| 02:33.49 | flora | lightbright: if you want i can send you "hitlist" for installing debian with apache2/mysql/php blah blah |
| 02:33.53 | abrotman | peterS: oh .. that's even worse |
| 02:33.54 | flora | lightbright: what's the big deal? |
| 02:33.56 | abrotman | nvz: famd |
| 02:34.15 | [Deek] | peterS: 36/12 is nice. |
| 02:34.19 | peterS | abrotman: nah, it was a friend and he had a good reason to call, so I got over it (: but his good reason to call *did* end up meaning I didn't have time to go back to sleep |
| 02:34.20 | nvz | I figured that was it |
| 02:34.21 | jim | pfr: already went there, bounced off her like a rubber water baloon |
| 02:34.33 | abrotman | [Deek]: i prefer 34/26/34 :) |
| 02:34.46 | abrotman | peterS: doh! |
| 02:34.47 | [Deek] | heh |
| 02:34.50 | luddite | hey fellas, got a weird screen issue.. i dpkg-reconfigure xserver and although in the past i've had 1600x1200 no problem i only get 1024x768 on my desktop, i'm using gdm and debian etch |
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| 02:35.02 | jim | flora: Airto and Flora Purim has recorded with Chick |
| 02:35.03 | nvz | I've lost some files carelessly clicking and since I use ext3 getting them back is not really possible. would be nice if they went to my trash can |
| 02:35.07 | lightbright | flora: ok send please |
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| 02:35.16 | [Deek] | luddite: don't reconfigure xserver? |
| 02:35.16 | flora | jim: roger |
| 02:35.30 | jim | no, not roger... Chick! |
| 02:35.36 | pfr | ba-dum-ding |
| 02:35.39 | peterS | abrotman: I'd promised like a month earlier to do this little swing dance exhibition at a high school with him and two chicks. turned out to be their middle school, but it still went fine |
| 02:35.41 | dvsdude | luddite: check your horizontal and vertical sync settings in xorg or xf86cong file and adjust to suite your monitor |
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| 02:35.56 | flora | lightbright: paste your email address in the channel |
| 02:36.00 | peterS | abrotman: "their" meaning the middle school attached to the high school. *not* implying that my friends go there. |
| 02:36.06 | luddite | i thought manually editing xf86config was a no no |
| 02:36.06 | abrotman | peterS: so you got a date with a 12 y/o ? :) |
| 02:36.09 | dvsdude | yes please |
| 02:36.40 | dvsdude | lol |
| 02:36.53 | peterS | abrotman: dude the youngest of the four of us is 17, the rest of us over 21. still, I'm the oldest by several years |
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| 02:36.59 | dvsdude | ludite: no its not do it all the time |
| 02:37.15 | abrotman | peterS: yeah .. aren't you like 34? |
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| 02:37.30 | luddite | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 is not the way to manage your XF86config file? |
| 02:37.49 | peterS | abrotman: I *am* double the age of the 15-year-old who comes out dancing sometimes. but not double the age of the one chick out there this morning |
| 02:37.50 | abrotman | that's the good way |
| 02:37.51 | dvsdude | liddite: try xf86cfg or xf86config command |
| 02:38.02 | abrotman | peterS: you're a wee bit older than myself :) |
| 02:38.28 | luddite | ok, do i have to kill gdm and do it from a non x enviroment or can i do it in gnome |
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| 02:38.45 | abrotman | luddite: you can do it in gnome .. but changes won't take affect until you restart X |
| 02:38.47 | flora | oops i guess irc has changed since 1996 |
| 02:38.52 | abrotman | eff effect |
| 02:38.55 | luddite | cool |
| 02:38.57 | abrotman | err err |
| 02:38.59 | flora | can't paste mroe than two damn lines |
| 02:39.09 | luddite | honestly if you guys are this young, your definately gifted |
| 02:39.18 | servus | flora: http://rafb.net/paste/ ? |
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| 02:39.43 | abrotman | luddite: you're |
| 02:39.45 | [Deek] | luddite: no, they're just acclimated. |
| 02:39.47 | luddite | but.. it's friday night. go out and live your youth, at my age you only look back to these times as the best |
| 02:40.01 | flora | back in the day we could paste all we wanted |
| 02:40.07 | flora | damn hackwankers |
| 02:40.09 | dvsdude | your only as old as the woman you feel lol |
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| 02:40.26 | [Deek] | reminds me... |
| 02:40.32 | pfr | i don't feel anywhere near enough women |
| 02:40.36 | lightbright | flora: my email os i removed apache2 and installed apache! where do I now place my php files? |
| 02:40.37 | luddite | then i'm 80 |
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| 02:40.42 | lightbright | i removed apache2 and installed apache! where do I now place my php files? |
| 02:40.56 | abrotman | same place |
| 02:40.56 | luddite | thanks guys |
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| 02:41.05 | abrotman | whereever DocumentRoot points .. duh |
| 02:41.08 | abrotman | read the damn apache docs |
| 02:41.12 | peterS | luddite feels 80-year-old women? |
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| 02:41.21 | abrotman | [Deek]: she ran off with another geek ? |
| 02:41.23 | dvsdude | bit of a worry |
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| 02:41.40 | [Deek] | yeah, my son. |
| 02:41.43 | [Deek] | :) |
| 02:41.50 | abrotman | oh .. that's jsut creepy |
| 02:41.56 | [Deek] | hahaha |
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| 02:42.46 | abrotman | either that or a pebble |
| 02:43.05 | abrotman | yes yes .. i know |
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| 02:43.51 | [Ex0r] | hello |
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| 02:46.43 | luddite | i'm a poor geek that works part time as a pool boy |
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| 02:47.07 | [Deek] | Sure, I'll buy that. |
| 02:47.55 | [Ex0r] | im selling an athlon xp 2600+ |
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| 02:48.20 | meff | try ebay |
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| 02:48.31 | flora | ok if you want to laugh at me you can |
| 02:48.41 | flora | all that BS because i forgot the -l in my rsync cmd |
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| 02:48.59 | meff | roffle! |
| 02:49.01 | abrotman | !pal flora |
| 02:49.09 | cddesjar | i want to install amarok from sid b/c of the bugs in amarok in testing |
| 02:49.16 | cddesjar | how do i just install amarok from sid? |
| 02:49.23 | cddesjar | i am currently running testing |
| 02:49.27 | meff | man apt_preferences |
| 02:49.43 | abrotman | i'm not telling .. because id ont' want to be responsible for the mess! |
| 02:49.44 | meff | put sid at -1, pin the amarok pkgs |
| 02:49.48 | meff | thats one way |
| 02:50.05 | meff | hehe abrotman |
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| 02:50.07 | cylax | how can i install a sparc headless? |
| 02:50.19 | secher_ | Heyas all. I asked this yesterday, and somehow managed to not save it to my firewall script. I need to block a particular IP from accessing the 'Net. what line would I need in my firewall.sh? |
| 02:50.26 | [Ex0r] | this sucks, knoppix is only available on bootable cd |
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| 02:50.42 | abrotman | secher_: from the inside ? |
| 02:50.50 | error403 | cylax, what firewall package? |
| 02:50.53 | abrotman | secher_: you really want to ask #iptables .. |
| 02:50.56 | danieldg | secher_: iptables -I FORWARD -s $ip -j DROP |
| 02:50.57 | error403 | crap |
| 02:50.57 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 02:50.58 | dpkg | sparc is probably the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 02:51.07 | error403 | secher_, what package? |
| 02:51.13 | cylax | i need to install debian on it |
| 02:51.14 | secher_ | abrotman: yes. I need to block 10.1.0.3 from the net, it's my daughter's computer. |
| 02:51.22 | abrotman | [Ex0r]: this channel is about debian |
| 02:51.22 | secher_ | straight iptables. |
| 02:51.28 | abrotman | secher_: not doing so well in school eh? :) |
| 02:51.32 | cylax | it can't boot from CD |
| 02:51.39 | cylax | even floppy |
| 02:51.40 | abrotman | cylax: they make floppies too |
| 02:51.44 | error403 | ah, never mind - i have no experience with straight iptables |
| 02:51.52 | abrotman | cylax: and TFTP too |
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| 02:52.06 | abrotman | error403: it's ok .. danieldg gave him enough to get started i think |
| 02:52.10 | linuxnewbie | hello there.. implanning to use debain sarge as a file server, and my clients are windows XP, im downloading sarge currently, is there some issues in debian and XP, like debian cant access XP share? something like that? |
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| 02:52.15 | error403 | abrotman, yeah... |
| 02:52.25 | abrotman | linuxnewbie: it's all about samba .. |
| 02:52.28 | secher_ | abrotman: not that, she's getting straight As, however, she's getting too good for her own good, and I need to be sitting with her for a while. |
| 02:52.28 | meff | linuxnewbie: #samba ;) |
| 02:52.44 | abrotman | secher_: too good at .. what exactly ? |
| 02:52.53 | abrotman | more like samba.org .. he should be reading docs |
| 02:52.54 | linuxnewbie | hhhmmm.. oh ok? |
| 02:53.16 | linuxnewbie | just asking, nothing more issues in debian and XP? |
| 02:53.23 | meff | uhm |
| 02:53.24 | meff | no |
| 02:53.30 | meff | but maybe w/ samba.. read the docs |
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| 02:53.39 | abrotman | linuxnewbie: nope .. debian is a linux distro .. you're really after samba and smbclient docs |
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| 02:53.57 | linuxnewbie | ah? ok thnx alot guys have a nice day |
| 02:54.01 | linuxnewbie | =) |
| 02:54.14 | cylax | ok, thnx |
| 02:54.26 | meff | linuxnewbie: make the rest of your systems linux and use nfs ;) |
| 02:54.33 | uri | hi all. If there are any developers, thanks! |
| 02:54.42 | linuxnewbie | one more thing does debian have a xwindows or xserver |
| 02:54.53 | linuxnewbie | like the other distro? |
| 02:55.00 | meff | yes |
| 02:55.06 | [Deek] | the other distro |
| 02:55.17 | meff | but i wouldnt recommend putting X on a server |
| 02:55.20 | meff | imho |
| 02:55.27 | uri | I got a question. I've noticed on some live CDs that my usb sticks auto-mount, even popping up on the desktop by themselves. How can I do the same on my debian sarge? |
| 02:55.48 | linuxnewbie | ok thnx again guys |
| 02:56.01 | cddesjar | get the 2.6 kernel |
| 02:56.01 | cddesjar | and use hal |
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| 02:56.19 | meff | udev/hal/dbus/kitchensink |
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| 02:56.23 | linuxnewbie | ok thnx alot guyd |
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| 02:56.37 | uri | hal? is that a package or module? |
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| 02:56.55 | HeLpSysTeM | is there any good VCD players that don't slow the system |
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| 02:57.02 | meff | slow the system? |
| 02:57.03 | meff | wtf |
| 02:57.05 | ultraviolet16 | um.. everyone go see freenode in wikipedia.org |
| 02:57.11 | meff | mplayer/xine HeLpSysTeM |
| 02:57.12 | abrotman | ultraviolet16: why? |
| 02:57.12 | ultraviolet16 | tell me if that's weird or what |
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| 02:57.28 | ultraviolet16 | well i think it ties to the downtime we had today |
| 02:57.32 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, it slows the system |
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| 02:57.47 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: get a faster system? |
| 02:57.49 | HeLpSysTeM | vlc work perfectly but not sound |
| 02:57.49 | abrotman | ultraviolet16: why is that weird ? |
| 02:58.02 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: try changing the video output to XV |
| 02:58.09 | meff | mplayer -vo xv file.avi |
| 02:58.15 | abrotman | ultraviolet16: i don't understand .. seems normal to me |
| 02:58.19 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, its vcd .dat |
| 02:58.25 | meff | then do that |
| 02:58.30 | meff | mplayer -vo xv blah.dat |
| 02:58.35 | meff | c'mon think a lil |
| 02:59.17 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, xine in general slows the system vlc don;t but i can't hear |
| 02:59.18 | ultraviolet16 | i had just read it |
| 02:59.27 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: ffs just try what i said. |
| 02:59.30 | abrotman | ultraviolet16: so what's wrong with that page? |
| 02:59.32 | ultraviolet16 | and it was an ascii art thing |
| 02:59.37 | ultraviolet16 | it's normal now.. |
| 03:00.12 | K_Dallas | ultraviolet16, it is still the ascii art! |
| 03:00.22 | K_Dallas | is it hacked or that is the normal page? |
| 03:00.22 | ultraviolet16 | not anymore |
| 03:00.27 | K_Dallas | i see it ;) |
| 03:00.28 | ultraviolet16 | it was hacked |
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| 03:00.34 | K_Dallas | THE JUDEN ENGINE :: PROTOTYPE 001 |
| 03:00.37 | ultraviolet16 | i see the normal page now |
| 03:00.40 | ApEtc | K_Dallas: F5? |
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| 03:00.59 | meff | stfu about the freenode compromise jezus |
| 03:01.00 | HeLpSysTeM | LinuxOs:/cdrom/mpegav# xine -vo xv avseq01.dat |
| 03:01.00 | K_Dallas | what is F5? |
| 03:01.00 | HeLpSysTeM | This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.3. |
| 03:01.01 | HeLpSysTeM | (c) 2000-2004 The xine Team. |
| 03:01.01 | HeLpSysTeM | LinuxOs:/cdrom/mpegav# |
| 03:01.08 | ApEtc | A button on your keyboard |
| 03:01.19 | K_Dallas | i just laoded the page! |
| 03:01.21 | abrotman | K_Dallas: F5 is a tornado .. or an http caching device |
| 03:01.23 | K_Dallas | i know what it does |
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| 03:01.29 | meff | uhm.. how did you install mplayer HeLpSysTeM ? |
| 03:01.37 | abrotman | ultraviolet16: it's fine |
| 03:01.41 | meff | i said MPLAYER not XINE |
| 03:01.43 | HeLpSysTeM | apt-get install xine-ui totem-xine |
| 03:01.44 | coywolf | how to use nmblookup to list all the hosts in the LAN? |
| 03:01.49 | HeLpSysTeM | and apt-get install vlc |
| 03:02.00 | HeLpSysTeM | what mplayer |
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| 03:02.01 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: mplayer -vo xv file.dat |
| 03:02.02 | abrotman | coywolf: man nmblookup .. oddly enough |
| 03:02.08 | HeLpSysTeM | i don't have mplayer |
| 03:02.12 | meff | get it? |
| 03:02.19 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, where from |
| 03:02.19 | meff | or adjust xine to use "xv" |
| 03:02.20 | SerajewelKS | is it possible to ask scp to not clobber the destination file if it already exists? (when using -r) |
| 03:02.26 | coywolf | abrotman, give a example? |
| 03:02.26 | K_Dallas | it is wierd! a few days ago they hacked int opensuse site now wiki! |
| 03:02.28 | meff | !tell HeLpSysTeM about marillat |
| 03:02.56 | abrotman | coywolf: look in the damn man page .. or ask #samba |
| 03:03.18 | K_Dallas | abrotman, why did i first get that page then F5 cleared it out? (sorry, but those are all new to me) |
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| 03:03.28 | meff | ... |
| 03:03.34 | abrotman | K_Dallas: dunno |
| 03:03.42 | K_Dallas | ok, thanks anyways |
| 03:03.48 | abrotman | i missed what's going on :) |
| 03:03.53 | cddesjar | so can i install a package from sid within using the preferences list? |
| 03:03.53 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 03:04.02 | abrotman | K_Dallas: look at the history |
| 03:04.05 | meff | yes cddesjar |
| 03:04.12 | K_Dallas | ok |
| 03:04.19 | uri | Ok, I'm did a quick websearch for using HAL. I need to add myself to plugdev group. But when I went to KUSER, it complained about something about /etc/gshadow not existing |
| 03:04.20 | Annirak | Hi, I'm trying to install the ATI drivers so that X.Org will run. I have the driver on my drive, but it's an RPM, how do I install it cleanly into an apt-managed system? |
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| 03:04.46 | cddesjar | how meff? |
| 03:04.53 | abrotman | uri: use useradd |
| 03:04.54 | meff | cddesjar: man apt_preferences |
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| 03:05.13 | cddesjar | lol...i just read it |
| 03:05.15 | SimonRaven | not again |
| 03:05.16 | cddesjar | i don't understand |
| 03:05.19 | SimonRaven | *sigh* |
| 03:05.36 | abrotman | !tell Annirak about ati debs |
| 03:05.42 | abrotman | SimonRaven: which one .. there's a line |
| 03:05.45 | uri | is there a way to fix KUSER? |
| 03:05.47 | meff | cddesjar: add sid repos to your sources.list, pin the release to -1 in preferences, then pin the pkgs you want from sid as a high number.. done. |
| 03:05.53 | abrotman | uri: ask #debian-kde ? |
| 03:06.55 | SimonRaven | abrotman: oh, the "forbidden channel" stuff. it'll get sorted out eventually, was just surprised at seeing it again |
| 03:07.15 | abrotman | SimonRaven: oh .. yeah .. |
| 03:07.31 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i blame canada |
| 03:07.37 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 03:07.37 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 03:07.42 | kl0ck | damn canadians |
| 03:07.56 | kl0ck | im canadian |
| 03:07.59 | kl0ck | not really |
| 03:08.16 | secher_ | Ok, I've been using epic4 for years, and I'm comfy, but a discussion last night made me think about irssi. If I'm ok with epic4, why do I want to go to irssi? |
| 03:08.27 | abrotman | because :) |
| 03:08.32 | abrotman | !best irc client |
| 03:08.33 | dpkg | well, irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
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| 03:08.51 | ultraviolet16 | roger that, i just started using irssi |
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| 03:09.32 | meff | irssi is godlike |
| 03:09.35 | meff | end of discussion |
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| 03:09.51 | kl0ck | its krunk to the 4th degree man |
| 03:10.12 | SimonRaven | i second that |
| 03:10.14 | nvz | what are you snoop dogg |
| 03:10.15 | abrotman | lucky 7!! |
| 03:10.19 | SimonRaven | it being really nice |
| 03:10.25 | cddesjar | if i want to use emacs as an editor...what package do I install? i tried apt-get install emacs...but that's a no go...then I did apt-cache search emacs and got a ton of hits |
| 03:10.26 | kl0ck | nvz: i am on the inside |
| 03:10.38 | abrotman | cddesjar: you don't |
| 03:10.48 | nvz | inside of what, the stupid circle? |
| 03:10.49 | meff | cddesjar: its called emacs21 |
| 03:10.51 | nevyn | irssi is the bomb |
| 03:10.58 | abrotman | !bloat |
| 03:10.58 | dpkg | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see <emacs> or <emacs disease> |
| 03:10.58 | kl0ck | nvz: :) |
| 03:11.00 | SimonRaven | hey, let him be, it's not like he wants to install webmin |
| 03:11.18 | abrotman | SimonRaven: good point .. but i fear that's coming .. |
| 03:11.32 | servus | !emacs disease |
| 03:11.32 | dpkg | I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your package. I've realized that you are not actually a text editor. Every text editor on this system instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding OS. But you emacsen do not. You move to a system and you multiply and multiply until every system resource is consumed.... |
| 03:11.33 | SimonRaven | nvz: the circle jerk |
| 03:12.02 | servus | Classify my package? Let's keep it clean here. |
| 03:12.11 | SimonRaven | i apologise to anyone who thought that was in bad taste =) |
| 03:12.11 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, thats sit is broken remove it |
| 03:12.15 | nvz | oh well, I got to go to work. bye bye |
| 03:12.29 | HeLpSysTeM | !forget about marillat |
| 03:12.29 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'about marillat' to forget, HeLpSysTeM |
| 03:12.35 | HeLpSysTeM | !forget marillat |
| 03:12.36 | meff | uhh |
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| 03:12.38 | meff | dont do that |
| 03:12.41 | abrotman | !beer SimonRaven |
| 03:12.42 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: stop that |
| 03:12.44 | meff | marillat works fine |
| 03:12.48 | SimonRaven | @lart HeLpSysTeM |
| 03:12.55 | HeLpSysTeM | SimonRaven, its broken go check it ur self the apt things |
| 03:12.56 | SimonRaven | thanks |
| 03:13.01 | abrotman | HeLpSysTeM: n it's not |
| 03:13.03 | abrotman | no it's not |
| 03:13.07 | TigerWraith | is there a amd64 channel for debian? |
| 03:13.08 | abrotman | HeLpSysTeM: /msg dpkg ur |
| 03:13.09 | mfrisch | its not. |
| 03:13.09 | meff | someone put marillat back in the bot :x |
| 03:13.10 | abrotman | idiot |
| 03:13.10 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, well i would like u to go and check on it ur self |
| 03:13.12 | SimonRaven | !marillat |
| 03:13.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 03:13.13 | dondelelcaro | HeLpSysTeM: so fix it; having the bot forget the factoid is silly. |
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| 03:13.35 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: no, it isn't. don't play with fire when you have gasoline on you |
| 03:13.37 | HeLpSysTeM | abrotman, well if i know about it that well i would tell it |
| 03:13.41 | mith | amazing what chanserv wackiness will do to the size of this channel |
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| 03:13.57 | HeLpSysTeM | SimonRaven, i've been into fire with gasoline i used to fire |
| 03:13.59 | SimonRaven | chop by 75% |
| 03:14.02 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 03:14.02 | dpkg | marillat is, like, an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 03:14.04 | HeLpSysTeM | but when u add it to ur sarage |
| 03:14.07 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: just cause you cant access it does not mean its down.. think a little. |
| 03:14.08 | HeLpSysTeM | let me paste the error |
| 03:14.16 | SimonRaven | not here you don't |
| 03:14.18 | abrotman | HeLpSysTeM: how do you get through life with language skills like that? |
| 03:14.19 | HeLpSysTeM | u can go to the link |
| 03:14.26 | meff | abrotman: lol |
| 03:14.30 | nevyn | HeLpSysTeM: change your marilat source from unstable to sid |
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| 03:14.39 | abrotman | both links work |
| 03:14.40 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: it's called an analogy. a turn of phrase |
| 03:14.41 | nevyn | someone del'd a simlink |
| 03:14.41 | HeLpSysTeM | i use sarge stable |
| 03:14.44 | abrotman | i don't understand the problem ? |
| 03:14.46 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: if you read the fucking page he says he changed the lines.. damn |
| 03:14.56 | HeLpSysTeM | i read it |
| 03:15.01 | HeLpSysTeM | instead of |
| 03:15.05 | HeLpSysTeM | wait |
| 03:15.07 | HeLpSysTeM | let me show u |
| 03:15.10 | abrotman | !u |
| 03:15.10 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:15.12 | meff | sigh |
| 03:15.15 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: oh, FYI, sarge *is* stable. it's redundant to call it 'sarge stable' |
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| 03:15.27 | abrotman | SimonRaven: dim |
| 03:15.35 | SimonRaven | dom |
| 03:15.38 | HeLpSysTeM | SimonRaven, i will show u somthing |
| 03:15.42 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:15.42 | Gnea | hrm, that's twicei came back in here today after i got removed somehow |
| 03:15.46 | abrotman | i want to see too!!! |
| 03:15.48 | nevyn | updates for debian |
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| 03:15.54 | mith | !mith HeLpSysTeM |
| 03:15.56 | meff | hahaha |
| 03:15.56 | flora | i'm brain dead |
| 03:15.57 | mith | bahh |
| 03:15.58 | abrotman | Gnea: chanserv killed #debian or some crap |
| 03:15.59 | nuclearpenguin | hey, im new to debian and just got introduced to the wonders of apt-get, how can i remove a pkg without removing its dependencies though? |
| 03:16.02 | SimonRaven | Gnea: /topic, and see global notices |
| 03:16.05 | flora | need to backup an apache2/mysql server |
| 03:16.09 | mith | !mith HeLpSysTeM |
| 03:16.14 | Gnea | ah, yeah i just read the other window heh |
| 03:16.19 | flora | i got /etc/*... /var/www/*... /var/lib/*.... what am i missing? |
| 03:16.19 | mith | dpkg: stop ignoring me :( |
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| 03:16.23 | nevyn | nuclearpenguin: that's what apt-get remove does by default |
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| 03:16.38 | abrotman | flora: /home ? |
| 03:16.43 | nevyn | nuclearpenguin: only aptitude handles removing dependancies automatically |
| 03:16.48 | flora | thx |
| 03:16.48 | meff | Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release |
| 03:16.48 | meff | Ign ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release |
| 03:16.52 | chris____ | well this is interesting |
| 03:16.52 | nevyn | eep. |
| 03:16.53 | meff | works fine, HeLpSysTeM |
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| 03:17.02 | flora | any other places there might be customized shit? |
| 03:17.07 | abrotman | i just want to see! |
| 03:17.15 | abrotman | flora: lots of places |
| 03:17.17 | nuclearpenguin | nevyn: i tried removing mozilla-browser cause i prefer firefox and it said it was gonna remove gnome too and a few other pkgs |
| 03:17.23 | abrotman | you should know what you've customized though :) |
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| 03:17.31 | flora | thanks |
| 03:17.32 | nevyn | gnome depends on mozilla-browser |
| 03:17.33 | abrotman | nuclearpenguin: gnome is a metapackage |
| 03:17.40 | nevyn | yet another reason not to use gnome ;) |
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| 03:17.48 | nevyn | not that the kde metapackage is much better |
| 03:17.51 | nuclearpenguin | abrotman: elaborate...? |
| 03:17.53 | flora | just apache/mysql |
| 03:17.53 | abrotman | nevyn: it's a metapackage |
| 03:17.57 | abrotman | !metapackage |
| 03:17.57 | flora | so i think i'm good |
| 03:17.57 | dpkg | it has been said that metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
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| 03:18.00 | HeLpSysTeM | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main binary-i386 |
| 03:18.02 | nevyn | abrotman: j/k |
| 03:18.04 | flora | time to reboot and cross ye olde fingers |
| 03:18.06 | dvsdude | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main |
| 03:18.15 | nevyn | abrotman: notice the ;) on the end |
| 03:18.15 | meff | oh good god HeLpSysTeM |
| 03:18.21 | nevyn | abrotman: chill a little |
| 03:18.21 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: yes, if you go read the page, it will tell you that it changed.... |
| 03:18.22 | meff | read the damn site |
| 03:18.24 | HeLpSysTeM | u have to add this line instead of deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main << this wont work for 386 |
| 03:18.27 | abrotman | nevyn: it's almost bedtime |
| 03:18.27 | nuclearpenguin | soooooo, i cant use apt-get to remove mozilla-browser rwithout removing gnome? |
| 03:18.28 | Gnea | !marillat |
| 03:18.28 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 03:18.31 | abrotman | HeLpSysTeM: you have to READ |
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| 03:18.44 | nevyn | nuclearpenguin: it won't actually remove gnome |
| 03:18.45 | abrotman | you know .. letters .. words .. sentences .. paragraphs .. they make ideas come to life!!! |
| 03:18.46 | HeLpSysTeM | i tested it and it resolve error for deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main << and told me to redit it or backup |
| 03:18.53 | nevyn | but it will remove the gnome metapackage which is a pita |
| 03:18.56 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: are you aware of how the word 'assume' is spelled? |
| 03:18.58 | meff | abrotman: he doesnt understand taht term 'read' |
| 03:18.59 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: go. read. the. page. |
| 03:19.09 | nuclearpenguin | nevyn: i think i get it |
| 03:19.18 | SimonRaven | @dict read |
| 03:19.21 | ravenbird | Dictionary 'read' (1 of 20): \Read\ (r[=e]d), n. Rennet. See 3d {Reed}. [Prov. Eng.] [1913 Webster]. |
| 03:19.24 | abrotman | hahah |
| 03:19.25 | SimonRaven | bah |
| 03:19.28 | nevyn | Will use 206MB of disk space DL size 716MB |
| 03:19.29 | SimonRaven | !dict read |
| 03:19.29 | nevyn | SIGH |
| 03:19.29 | abrotman | !lart ravenbird |
| 03:19.29 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 03:19.31 | dpkg | Dictionary 'read' (5 of 31): . Read \Read\, a. Instructed or knowing by reading; versed in books; learned. ;; . Read \Read\, v. t. 1. To give advice or counsel. [Obs.] ;; 2. To interpret; to explain; as, to read a riddle. ;; 2. To tell; to declare. [Obs.] --Spenser. ;; 3. To tell; to declare; to recite. [Obs.]. |
| 03:19.40 | nuclearpenguin | alright, thanks nevyn and abrotman |
| 03:19.50 | HeLpSysTeM | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.50 | HeLpSysTeM | Add in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:19.50 | HeLpSysTeM | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 03:19.58 | SimonRaven | FFS.. |
| 03:20.04 | HeLpSysTeM | wow what an explanation |
| 03:20.16 | SimonRaven | someone please kick him |
| 03:20.21 | meff | lol |
| 03:20.25 | Gnea | a teacher who doesn't know how to take initiative... glad your not my teacher, you'd get a spoiled apple |
| 03:20.40 | abrotman | SimonRaven: just call ops for being a ... <insertwordnotallowedtobeusedanymore> |
| 03:20.45 | HeLpSysTeM | well tell me |
| 03:20.47 | HeLpSysTeM | where to read |
| 03:20.53 | HeLpSysTeM | all what i read |
| 03:20.56 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: you keep pasting the url over and over |
| 03:21.00 | HeLpSysTeM | for sarge stablle look bellow |
| 03:21.07 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: and yet you don't read it |
| 03:21.12 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: read the page. the facoitd (dpkg's thingy) was only announced here 4-5 times... |
| 03:21.13 | Xenguy | HeLpSysTeM: just calm down |
| 03:21.17 | SimonRaven | factoid* |
| 03:21.33 | SimonRaven | anyway, go read the page, it will explain everything |
| 03:21.37 | abrotman | i heard http is better than ftp sometimes ... |
| 03:21.40 | HeLpSysTeM | i coppied all the site over the main |
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| 03:21.53 | HeLpSysTeM | SimonRaven, i'm in both of them |
| 03:21.58 | HeLpSysTeM | i get it to work |
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| 03:22.04 | HeLpSysTeM | but it gave me error around the site |
| 03:22.10 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: think a little... if apt-get cannot resolve nerim.net how the hell are you getting to the website? :P |
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| 03:22.15 | HeLpSysTeM | saying unable to fetch ip xx.xx.xx.xx |
| 03:22.21 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:22.23 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, |
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| 03:22.24 | HeLpSysTeM | wait |
| 03:22.28 | HeLpSysTeM | i;ll show u logs |
| 03:22.31 | abrotman | !u |
| 03:22.31 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:22.32 | SimonRaven | then your DNS is fucked |
| 03:22.32 | coywolf | > how to use nmblookup to list all the hosts in the LAN? give me an example plz, man does't help |
| 03:22.34 | Xenguy | !enter |
| 03:22.34 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 03:22.38 | meff | lolol |
| 03:22.41 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: i bet your student with the lowest GPA is smarter than you |
| 03:22.45 | meff | you fail it, HeLpSysTeM .. |
| 03:22.45 | abrotman | HeLpSysTeM: "U" is not a damned word .. neither is "ur" |
| 03:22.51 | SimonRaven | ok, ok, let's just cool off a bit |
| 03:23.09 | HeLpSysTeM | !paste |
| 03:23.10 | dpkg | paste is probably Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 03:23.12 | abrotman | it's amazing .. 120 people .. and the majority .... |
| 03:23.23 | nevyn | mmm? |
| 03:23.29 | nevyn | are stupid? |
| 03:23.34 | Gnea | oh this is classic |
| 03:23.35 | Gnea | !dns |
| 03:23.49 | xoz | !boob |
| 03:23.50 | dpkg | boob is probably (.) |
| 03:23.58 | abrotman | !boobs |
| 03:23.59 | dpkg | (.)(.) |
| 03:24.02 | abrotman | just making sure |
| 03:24.08 | Guerin | wtf |
| 03:24.09 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: are you aware of the concept of DNS, and how it works? |
| 03:24.10 | HeLpSysTeM | well i get error through the site from the owner |
| 03:24.22 | meff | lol HeLpSysTeM |
| 03:24.29 | meff | you cannot connect to nerim.net twice |
| 03:24.32 | meff | CLOSE YOUR BROWSER |
| 03:24.34 | meff | and try again |
| 03:24.45 | meff | god damn |
| 03:24.46 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: you keep telling us all of these problems and you ask for help, then whenever we try to help you you jump to the conclusion that you know the answer and bounce onto another problem |
| 03:25.10 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, u should told me that |
| 03:25.20 | HeLpSysTeM | that they don't allow more than 1 connection |
| 03:25.26 | meff | 'u' shoulda read the damn error |
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| 03:25.35 | abrotman | !wud |
| 03:25.36 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 03:25.36 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: 'u' need to learn how to read. |
| 03:25.41 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: no, you should have readd the fucking error message, which says exactly that |
| 03:25.42 | abrotman | and write! |
| 03:25.46 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: and how to respond. |
| 03:25.55 | Mercury | WTF is up with udev and hotplug in sid? |
| 03:25.57 | dvsdude | !u you damm lol |
| 03:26.02 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: this is not a debian problem - mplayer is not in debian, and nerim.net's policies are out of our control. |
| 03:26.07 | Gnea | Mercury: you need a 2.6.12 kernel |
| 03:26.21 | Mercury | Gnea: 2.6.13-rc6 do? |
| 03:26.36 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: if you can't figure it out then you shouldn't be using it. go find something else to break. |
| 03:26.41 | HeLpSysTeM | Guerin, well what you think if u found it get 2 files out of 3 and the third says can't read dns |
| 03:26.44 | Guerin | Mercury: it depends on a debian 2.6.12 kernel; install one |
| 03:26.44 | meff | amen Gnea |
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| 03:26.48 | abrotman | U U U U |
| 03:26.53 | abrotman | see how stupid it looks |
| 03:27.07 | Mercury | Guerin: Let me be very clear here, what exactly depends on a debian 2.6.12 kernel? |
| 03:27.13 | meff | u r so k-r4d abr0tman |
| 03:27.13 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: wtf? |
| 03:27.15 | HeLpSysTeM | Gnea, i wish i can break somthing that would calm me down a bit |
| 03:27.26 | HeLpSysTeM | cause i'm burned. |
| 03:27.27 | Guerin | Mercury: udev |
| 03:27.31 | xoz | !depends kernel-image-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 03:27.35 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: so go break your computer |
| 03:27.40 | Guerin | it's not much use to you anyway |
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| 03:27.50 | Guerin | xoz: you'd need rdepends |
| 03:27.54 | meff | how the hell can you get so worked up about not reading an error msg |
| 03:27.58 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: that's your problem. you need to step away from the computer and go do something else, then come back to it in a few hours. |
| 03:28.03 | plypkie | debian/testing X font question: i just upgraded to testing last night, and now when i start xcdroast it has this super awful font. how do i tell which font xcdroast is requesting, so i can change it? |
| 03:28.09 | HeLpSysTeM | Guerin, lol i did before :p it was a junk now happy with 2 pcs |
| 03:28.13 | xoz | !depends linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 03:28.17 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686: depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.78), coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.0), module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13) |
| 03:28.29 | plypkie | i assume it's asking for something really general, and the first matching font is the crappy shit |
| 03:28.30 | HeLpSysTeM | Gnea, well its the problem i'm fasting |
| 03:28.31 | [Deek] | Guerin: heh |
| 03:28.38 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: i've done the same thing - i'll sit in front of the computer for HOURS and get frustrated at the simplest problem. I'll walk away, get some lunch or whatever, come back and bam, have it figured out in under 5 minutes. |
| 03:28.39 | meff | sigh |
| 03:28.40 | Mercury | Guerin: Let's see, the depends line says, libc6, libselinux1, initscripts, makedev, sed, and lsb-base. |
| 03:28.45 | SerajewelKS | is there a way to prevent arts lag? |
| 03:28.50 | Mercury | Guerin: No mention of the debian kernel package. |
| 03:28.51 | abrotman | don't use it ? |
| 03:28.59 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, tell that to kolf |
| 03:29.08 | Mercury | Guerin: Now, what in udev requires the debian patched kernel, and what is the patch in question? |
| 03:29.09 | meff | wtf is kolf |
| 03:29.10 | abrotman | kolf: don't use arts |
| 03:29.16 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: well screw the problem, go do something else and stop bothering us with your bullshit. come back when you're head is cleared and you can focus and concentrate properly. |
| 03:29.16 | HeLpSysTeM | Gnea, well its 6 am morning and i can't eat till after 12 hours. |
| 03:29.17 | abrotman | dunno .. but i told him! |
| 03:29.19 | SerajewelKS | !info kolf |
| 03:29.22 | dpkg | kolf: (Minigolf game for KDE), section games, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 900 kB, Installed size: 2096 kB |
| 03:29.25 | Guerin | Mercury: hrm, ok. It may be that it just doesn't work with kernel <2.6.12, in which case your upstream might woork |
| 03:29.37 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: thats not our problem.. come back after you ate some grub. |
| 03:29.39 | Guerin | Mercury: it definitely works with a debian .12 kernel, though |
| 03:29.41 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: that's your problem, don't make it ours. you have the power to control yourself and make that decision. |
| 03:29.45 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i see a few problems here .. Golf,arts,KDE .. all suck :) |
| 03:29.52 | xfoxx | ive installed a package and i cannot get it to uninstall neither with apt nor dpkg, what can i do?? |
| 03:30.01 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, i didn't come here for a commentary |
| 03:30.03 | xoz | HeLpSysTeM: hel your system :) |
| 03:30.03 | meff | xfoxx: error msgs help |
| 03:30.03 | abrotman | xfoxx: why not ? |
| 03:30.05 | HeLpSysTeM | hmm rm -rf / that would solve ur problems right |
| 03:30.07 | chris____ | hey is xorg installed by default when you upgrade from sarge? |
| 03:30.09 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: it was humor |
| 03:30.09 | Mercury | Guerin: Yes, I'm not having problems with udev, except that it seems to be conflicting with hotplug and I would like to know _why_ it's conflicting with hotplug. |
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| 03:30.16 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i'd ask #debian-kde honestly |
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| 03:30.23 | chris____ | also i am trying this irc that everyone raves about |
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| 03:30.27 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i just don't run arts crap |
| 03:30.28 | plypkie | anybody know how to find what x resources a program is using? |
| 03:30.29 | xEwig | GO |
| 03:30.30 | chris____ | but i don't understand how to private message |
| 03:30.32 | Guerin | Mercury: the short answer is: because the udev maintainer is widely reputed to be on crack. |
| 03:30.32 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, ok. sorry if i don't laugh.. not really in the mood right now =/ |
| 03:30.33 | HeLpSysTeM | xoz, thanks god its the first time i have fun with linux for 3 days , :) |
| 03:30.39 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: fine .. i'll leave! |
| 03:30.40 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, again... commentary ;) |
| 03:30.40 | HeLpSysTeM | and i didn't screw it up :D |
| 03:30.42 | chris____ | i am trying to private message dpkg |
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| 03:30.44 | Mercury | Guerin: And the long answer? |
| 03:30.53 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: what exactly is choking? (sorry) |
| 03:31.06 | mfrisch | chris____ he'll talk your ear off |
| 03:31.08 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, ... what? |
| 03:31.10 | SerajewelKS | choking? |
| 03:31.10 | Guerin | Mercury: i don't know the long answer. The BTS might. |
| 03:31.14 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: pardon? |
| 03:31.14 | xoz | HeLpSysTeM: linux is fun. |
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| 03:31.20 | chris____ | he's a bot smart ass |
| 03:31.22 | chris____ | :) |
| 03:31.23 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: rm -rf / on my system? |
| 03:31.40 | HeLpSysTeM | Gnea, no my system |
| 03:31.45 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: oh ok, yeah. |
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| 03:32.03 | Guerin | plypkie: are you sure xcdroast uses xresources? |
| 03:32.08 | SimonRaven | um |
| 03:32.09 | meff | windows is calling your name.. |
| 03:32.11 | HeLpSysTeM | first lesson RTFM before any thing :D |
| 03:32.11 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: you say arts is causing lag - that means there's a bottleneck somewhere? |
| 03:32.16 | chris____ | i got amarok installed from sid |
| 03:32.21 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, no, arts IS lagging |
| 03:32.27 | meff | arts sucks |
| 03:32.30 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: so kill it? |
| 03:32.32 | xEwig | hello |
| 03:32.32 | meff | go direct alsa |
| 03:32.39 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, *sigh* do you even know what i mean |
| 03:32.45 | xoz | whoever creaed arts should be shot point blank |
| 03:32.51 | meff | SerajewelKS: known issue. arts isnt that great.. sorry. |
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| 03:32.59 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: no, so i'll just STFU since i'm not getting an explanation. |
| 03:33.00 | plypkie | Guerin: i'm grasping at straws. all i know is there's a nearly-unreadable font on my system, and xcdroast is using it. xcdroast has no way to change the font it uses, so i'll settle for just finding out the name of the offending font so i can kill it |
| 03:33.01 | HeLpSysTeM | Linux Teach us new things every day :) |
| 03:33.04 | Guerin | plypkie: if it is, you can define which font it uses in ~/.xresources; else find out what toolkit or font selection system it uses and fix that |
| 03:33.14 | Gnea | HeLpSysTeM: you are now on /ignore |
| 03:33.15 | secher | Ok, how do I have irssi set the nicks to a different color than the rest of the text? |
| 03:33.17 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, it takes a bit between when kolf tells arts "make this sound" and arts sends it to my speaker |
| 03:33.21 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: not just linux, but life as well |
| 03:33.23 | Guerin | plypkie: if it's gtk+, /msg dpkg gtk fontsize |
| 03:33.32 | HeLpSysTeM | Gnea, wow :$ nice |
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| 03:33.39 | SimonRaven | secher: script, but it's a hoggy script |
| 03:33.50 | meff | SerajewelKS: give it up.. dont use arts. if you do, adjust the buffers and see what happens. |
| 03:33.51 | plypkie | unreadable meaning it's all-caps and script-like...not too small |
| 03:33.55 | HeLpSysTeM | SimonRaven, well i know but its cool lesson to rtfm before u do any thing. |
| 03:33.57 | Muffie | hello all. Anyone knows a program to do "Screen Recording" of the desktop to an AVI? For Linux of course... |
| 03:34.02 | Guerin | SimonRaven: is arts running with realtime, or what priority? |
| 03:34.06 | SimonRaven | HeLpSysTeM: yes, of course |
| 03:34.10 | HeLpSysTeM | sorry if i got any one into temper. or anger |
| 03:34.13 | SerajewelKS | meff, as i said, kolf (and most KDE crap) uses arts exclusively |
| 03:34.28 | abrotman | then why would you use kde/arts ? |
| 03:34.30 | meff | SerajewelKS: well then thats a bad design isnt it now? |
| 03:34.36 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, i'm sorry. |
| 03:34.48 | Muffie | anyone? |
| 03:34.54 | meff | hell even things that used ESD could do direct oss |
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| 03:35.08 | SerajewelKS | meff, thanks for condescending to me instead of the author.. god |
| 03:35.10 | Guerin | really, are you sure they don't do oss? |
| 03:35.13 | SerajewelKS | wtf is up with you people today |
| 03:35.14 | abrotman | i thought arts had been abandoned ? |
| 03:35.20 | Mercury | Son of a.. udev seems to replace the hotplug functionality, but it's not actually, you know, _working_. |
| 03:35.25 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i don't get any sound from it, but damn i never knew about this game.. now i'm addicted |
| 03:35.26 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, i sure up it is in 3.4 |
| 03:35.30 | Guerin | Mercury: heh. Yup. |
| 03:35.31 | abrotman | Mercury: you know who to blame ? |
| 03:35.37 | Muffie | Anyone knows a program to do "Screen Recording" of the desktop to an AVI? For Linux of course... |
| 03:35.40 | abrotman | !maint udev |
| 03:35.46 | uri | Hi guys, someone said to use HAL to automount usb sticks. But I did a websearch and can't find a guide for debian. (I seem stuff for ubuntu which is not quite the same) |
| 03:35.46 | dpkg | udev: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it> |
| 03:35.49 | SimonRaven | Muffie: i don;t know of any, but you could convert the image. oh, maybe scrot, but check first |
| 03:35.59 | meff | SerajewelKS: dont get me wrong, nothing against you, im just stating the truth ;) |
| 03:35.59 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, s/up/hope/ dunno how that happened |
| 03:36.03 | Muffie | SimonRaven : Scrot? |
| 03:36.08 | [Deek] | Mercury: hmm? |
| 03:36.12 | SimonRaven | Muffie: apt-cache show scrot |
| 03:36.13 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: that's why i said to ask #debian-kde |
| 03:36.19 | SerajewelKS | meff, state it in a less insulting manner please |
| 03:36.29 | [Deek] | Mercury: I thought it just hooked into hotplug. |
| 03:36.31 | Guerin | Mercury: there is one, but I'm struggling to find the name of it |
| 03:36.34 | Guerin | bah |
| 03:36.40 | meff | SerajewelKS: i never insulted you.. anyways.. whatever.. good luck. |
| 03:36.40 | Mercury | [Deek]: Nope, it's conflicting with hotplug now. |
| 03:36.42 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, yeah tried that.. they're all idle. which probably explains half of the problem. |
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| 03:36.42 | Guerin | Muffie: there is one, but I'm struggling to find the name of it |
| 03:36.47 | Mercury | abrotman: Nope. |
| 03:36.56 | abrotman | Mercury: nope ? |
| 03:36.57 | Muffie | SimonRaven : Thanks |
| 03:36.58 | abrotman | don't blame md ? |
| 03:37.01 | SerajewelKS | meff, <meff> SerajewelKS: well then thats a bad design isnt it now? |
| 03:37.07 | Muffie | Guerin : Its scrot? |
| 03:37.09 | meff | SerajewelKS: cant take a joke? |
| 03:37.11 | Mercury | abrotman: I don't know who to blame. |
| 03:37.11 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: apt-get install gnome |
| 03:37.17 | abrotman | Mercury: i just showed you |
| 03:37.28 | SimonRaven | !blame abrotman |
| 03:37.32 | abrotman | sure sure |
| 03:37.36 | abrotman | !hire SimonRaven |
| 03:37.45 | SerajewelKS | meff, if i can tell that it's a joke, yes |
| 03:37.53 | SimonRaven | eeew, nightmarish |
| 03:37.56 | Guerin | Mercury: not the one I'm thinking of. |
| 03:37.57 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, heh |
| 03:37.58 | Guerin | BAH |
| 03:38.01 | Guerin | Mercury: sorry |
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| 03:38.07 | Guerin | Muffie: not the one I'm thinking of |
| 03:38.09 | meff | SerajewelKS: well, how the hell would it not be? .. maybe i should've added 'lol'? :) |
| 03:38.23 | SimonRaven | @pal meff |
| 03:38.27 | SimonRaven | !pal meff |
| 03:38.33 | abrotman | !pal ravenbird |
| 03:38.40 | HeLpSysTeM | is there any thing like ascii player |
| 03:38.47 | Muffie | Guerin : How can I search for the one you're trying to remember? |
| 03:38.50 | SerajewelKS | meff, maybe.. just sounded like you were yelling at me (given my current mood) |
| 03:38.54 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: ascii player? what's that do? |
| 03:39.00 | Guerin | Muffie: if I knew, I'd have found it for you by now |
| 03:39.04 | meff | SerajewelKS: nah just makign a snide remark heh |
| 03:39.11 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: ok, after the first hole, the game gets kinda dumb |
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| 03:39.32 | secher | Ok, so why is irssi better than epic4 with splitfire? the nicks are the same color as the conversations, I still see all of the joins and quits, and I have to hit additional keys to see messages. What am I missing? |
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| 03:39.40 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, they told use about it in the university it uses aalib it play avi movies in ascii pictures so u watch the whole movie in ascii mode |
| 03:39.53 | meff | SerajewelKS: irc isnt great for conveying emotions.. i am sorry if i offended you. |
| 03:40.03 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: yes, mplayer -vo aa file.avi |
| 03:40.21 | SerajewelKS | meff, yeah tell me about it.. i've been on your end of things more than once =) |
| 03:40.23 | HeLpSysTeM | aha once i got it installed i will use it :) |
| 03:40.23 | SimonRaven | secher: you can theme it any way you want, the text could be blue on yellow for all i care |
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| 03:40.51 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: for the future, do mplayer -vo help for all the modes. |
| 03:41.18 | Guerin | secher: do you always whine about defaults? |
| 03:41.23 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, is there any frontend |
| 03:41.25 | chris____ | !best irc |
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| 03:41.32 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: gmplayer but it sucks ;) |
| 03:41.39 | secher | SimonRaven: No, I want the nicks to be a different color from teh conversations and I can't find it in the manpage. |
| 03:41.43 | chris____ | !best irc client |
| 03:41.43 | dpkg | well, irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
| 03:41.47 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: if you want gui, go gxine.. gtk2 frontend for xinelib |
| 03:41.52 | SimonRaven | secher: be something like: |
| 03:41.52 | chris____ | how do i private message in irssi-text? |
| 03:41.58 | SerajewelKS | if i (and other people i assume) had my way, there would be a single API to write sound apps to, and you could configure it to play through whatever sound system or daemon you wanted |
| 03:42.03 | HeLpSysTeM | aha well i will forget about it |
| 03:42.04 | Guerin | chris____: /msg dpkg hello |
| 03:42.14 | chris____ | nothing |
| 03:42.18 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: welcome to the alsa project. |
| 03:42.34 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, except that ALSA can't play through arts (can it?) |
| 03:42.50 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: no, but arts can play through alsa |
| 03:42.58 | meff | SerajewelKS: yeah its called uhm.. well its some alsa thing.. i forgot its name.. soundcards that support multiple dsp inputs like the emu10k1 support multiple progs off the bat |
| 03:43.02 | secher | Ah, forgetaboutit, I"m feeling cranky anyway, GF and I just had it out so I"m not in the best of moods, to say the least. |
| 03:43.04 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, not that arts is great but when something better than ALSA comes out in a few years it's going to be another bitch to have alsa apps play nice |
| 03:43.06 | Guerin | alsa is the underlying this which controls sound |
| 03:43.24 | SimonRaven | secher: msgnick = "%K<%n$0$1-%K>%n %|"; each %CHAR is a code, either a colour, or some formatting |
| 03:43.27 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: everything else is just stuff talking to alsa |
| 03:43.45 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, for the time being yes |
| 03:43.46 | SimonRaven | secher: see /usr/share/doc/irssi-text/* files. isn't in the man page |
| 03:44.06 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: well, what else would you suggest? One API for all time? |
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| 03:44.34 | meff | SerajewelKS: its called dmix btw. |
| 03:44.39 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, at least an API that is easy to plug into other APIs so compat libraries could handle it or something |
| 03:44.43 | meff | SerajewelKS: though i hear people have tons of probs with it. |
| 03:45.01 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: and are you saying it should never change? |
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| 03:45.04 | SerajewelKS | meff, dmix works okay here.. even with the occasional "wtf" problem |
| 03:45.38 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, it shouldn't be that hard to write a simple API something along the lines of give_me_a_sound_device() play_this_chunk() |
| 03:45.40 | [Deek] | multi-open cards work better. :) |
| 03:45.50 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: go ahead and write it, then |
| 03:45.53 | [Deek] | Hell, my Thinkpad's multi-open. |
| 03:45.58 | meff | SerajewelKS: you look at jackd? :) |
| 03:46.04 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, isn't that the solution for everything |
| 03:46.15 | xoz | in theory |
| 03:46.15 | SerajewelKS | meff, looked yes.. never figured out what the hell it is, really |
| 03:46.25 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: well, if it's so simple, why do you think it's not been implemented yet? |
| 03:46.26 | meff | SerajewelKS: kinda what your talking about. |
| 03:46.30 | SimonRaven | change is good, when it's for the better |
| 03:46.33 | nayyares | i want to parse my Network Gateway traffice for SMTP data and find who is mailing what, Is there any software that can help me? |
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| 03:47.05 | Guerin | nayyares: why are you spying on your users? |
| 03:47.14 | Mercury | Yes, it looks like you can do something like you once could with hotplug. Only in a _completely different way_! |
| 03:47.18 | Mercury | Grrrr. |
| 03:47.25 | meff | nayyares: be less vague.. do you have logs, or you wanna capture the tcp pkts.. or what? |
| 03:47.26 | [Deek] | heh |
| 03:47.45 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, all i know is that windows has had a decent working sound system for years. one api, no confusion between oss and alsa and crap. |
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| 03:47.59 | meff | SerajewelKS: this isnt windows ;) |
| 03:48.00 | nayyares | Guerin: in fact its my duty to do that for our office gateway traffic |
| 03:48.03 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: so you know fuck-all, then. |
| 03:48.15 | dvsdude | herehere |
| 03:48.18 | [Deek] | SerajewelKS: Funny, all my old stuff still works. |
| 03:48.24 | SimonRaven | nayyares: um, that's an invasion of privacy, IMO |
| 03:48.28 | Guerin | nayyares: block all outbound smtp, and make your users use your own smtp server |
| 03:48.33 | SerajewelKS | meff, no, but i expect more out of the open-source community than a collection of sound systems that have a hard time talking to each other |
| 03:48.46 | nayyares | meff: i d'nt have any log. i will capture tcp packets |
| 03:48.47 | [Deek] | And no arts, no esd, no jack, etc. in sight. |
| 03:48.48 | sanxiyn | SerajewelKS: Indeed. Any good idea? |
| 03:48.50 | meff | SerajewelKS: and you 'expect more' out of us while we're doing this for free? |
| 03:48.53 | djperegrine | Linux always seemed to have decent sound support to me |
| 03:48.54 | meff | SerajewelKS: you code it then. |
| 03:49.01 | djperegrine | well my sound cards always just worked :P |
| 03:49.03 | xoz | SerajewelKS: it's because every sound manufacturer creates software for their hardware to work in windows... so no matter how crap is the API, they will find ways to work it out for *money+ |
| 03:49.13 | HeLpSysTeM | how to install mouse curses ? |
| 03:49.22 | djperegrine | SerajewelKS, same with every other hardware device pretty much |
| 03:49.25 | meff | wtf is mouse curses |
| 03:49.28 | sanxiyn | xoz: No, one piece of puzzle is that Unix community haven't agreed on software mixing. |
| 03:49.32 | SimonRaven | djperegrine: same here, execpt for a pas16 i had. now have a very generic sbpro |
| 03:49.38 | sanxiyn | xoz: That's why you have esd and alsa and others. |
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| 03:49.39 | fusionfox | i am having a problem trying to unistall a package, it is just i cannot neither with apt nor dpkg |
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| 03:49.43 | Guerin | !fgi HeLpSysTeM how+to+install+mouse+curses+linux |
| 03:49.44 | dpkg | HeLpSysTeM: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=how+to+install+mouse+curses+linux |
| 03:49.48 | xoz | sanxiyn: bazaar |
| 03:49.50 | Guerin | fusionfox: why not? |
| 03:49.50 | sanxiyn | Also, OSS is the standard, no matter what you think. |
| 03:49.57 | sanxiyn | xoz: And, is that good for user? |
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| 03:50.06 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: in the long run, sure. |
| 03:50.08 | sanxiyn | xoz: Criticism against Linux sound-mixing split is valid. |
| 03:50.10 | SimonRaven | meff: when a mouse starts swearing at you because the cheese in the mouse trpa is not real cheese, but 'cheez whiz' |
| 03:50.15 | Guerin | sanxiyn: in the long run, sure. |
| 03:50.22 | meff | SimonRaven: rofl |
| 03:50.28 | Guerin | it's just that the long run is turning out to be very, very long. |
| 03:50.32 | HeLpSysTeM | Guerin, well try to respect ppl so they can respect u in return ok. |
| 03:50.38 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Annoyingly long, but who am I to say that... |
| 03:50.45 | xoz | sanxiyn: survival of the fittest + choice ... you cant have everything. but similar to evolution, it will do good *slowly* |
| 03:50.46 | nuclearpenguin | ok, why are some popular pkgs like LAME or qt not in apt, and whats the easiest alternative? |
| 03:50.49 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: try not to be so fucking stupid |
| 03:50.57 | nayyares | Guerin, my network gateway is runnig with SMTP Service. |
| 03:51.04 | meff | !tell nuclearpenguin about marillat |
| 03:51.08 | Guerin | nayyares: qt is in apt ... lame isn't for patent reasons which are very well documented |
| 03:51.10 | HeLpSysTeM | Guerin, i have icon themes i wanna install them how |
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| 03:51.22 | Guerin | nayyares: so all outbound smtp goes through your gateway? |
| 03:51.35 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: dunno. Fucking google it like I said. |
| 03:51.42 | nuclearpenguin | :) thanks |
| 03:51.43 | nayyares | Guerin: yeah |
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| 03:52.06 | HeLpSysTeM | Guerin, go google ur self majdoub. |
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| 03:52.20 | meff | heh |
| 03:52.23 | sanxiyn | heh |
| 03:52.27 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: i don't need to, I don't have a problem. |
| 03:52.38 | HeLpSysTeM | Guerin, me too |
| 03:52.42 | sanxiyn | Poor Guerin. Being asked to "google yourself" from questioner. |
| 03:52.47 | meff | hahah |
| 03:52.48 | SerajewelKS | HeLpSysTeM, you might get more respect if you (a) listen to people (b) not use "u" and "ur" |
| 03:52.51 | dvsdude | Guerin: HeLpSysTeM could always give us remote access to system |
| 03:52.53 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: when I do have a problem I *DO* google, which is why people in here don't tell me to fgi very often |
| 03:53.05 | Guerin | dvsdude: yeah, I'd fix his shit up for $100/hour |
| 03:53.15 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Heh. |
| 03:53.48 | SimonRaven | i come here when i've spent hours googling, RTFMing, and trying to find any doc i can get my hands and hard drive space on |
| 03:53.50 | nayyares | Guerin |
| 03:53.51 | Guerin | nayyares: configure your mail server to pipe a copy of each mail through a filtering program which gives you reports, or saves a copy of each mail someplace for you to read at your leisure. There's a hundred thousand possible things you could do |
| 03:54.00 | dvsdude | not excatly what i had in mind would FIX system 4free |
| 03:54.13 | xoz | nayyares: procmail? |
| 03:54.24 | SimonRaven | i do unusual things, so docs are sometimes hard to come by... |
| 03:54.31 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, ? what to do mplayer: could not connect to socket |
| 03:54.31 | HeLpSysTeM | mplayer: No such file or directory |
| 03:54.36 | meff | so we magically have tons of time to login to debian users boxes and fix them for free? ffs we do enough here. |
| 03:54.38 | Guerin | nayyares: i'm not going to help you implement it, because as far as I'm concerned, if you're a netadmin, you should be capable of doing it yourself without asking unqualified fools like me to do it for you |
| 03:54.53 | Guerin | HeLpSysTeM: mplayer is not in debian. |
| 03:55.08 | sanxiyn | HeLpSysTeM: strace it if you get "no such file". |
| 03:55.16 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: i told you about marillat, if you have probs, fix them yourself.. those pkgs are not supported here. |
| 03:55.18 | dvsdude | fuxk it not fix it damm lol |
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| 03:55.32 | sanxiyn | Too bad mplayer isn't in Debian. |
| 03:55.39 | HeLpSysTeM | meff, u told me to get it |
| 03:55.40 | sanxiyn | IIRC, some people tried very hard to untagle license issue it has. |
| 03:55.44 | sanxiyn | tangle |
| 03:55.52 | Guerin | sanxiyn: yeah |
| 03:55.53 | meff | HeLpSysTeM: yes, i never said i'd help you with them. |
| 03:56.00 | nayyares | Guerin: heh |
| 03:56.00 | HeLpSysTeM | grrrrrrrrr |
| 03:56.00 | Guerin | sanxiyn: not hard enough, evidently |
| 03:56.11 | SimonRaven | meff: i don't it because a) yes, a lot of time can be spent there b) i don't like it when a newbie opens up his/her box like that, since they could offer it to someone with no scruples and get 0wned. so i tell them no, and why. |
| 03:56.18 | SerajewelKS | what is the problem with the mplayer license |
| 03:56.30 | jdhutchin1 | SerajewelKS, it's not the license, it's the minefield of patent issues |
| 03:56.47 | SerajewelKS | jdhutchin1, so how does mplayer suffer from those and not xine? |
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| 03:57.07 | meff | SimonRaven: hmm? never said anything to you about doing that.. i just was mentioning that we dont have the time here to do it anyways. |
| 03:57.10 | SimonRaven | SerajewelKS: the fact that they've put it under GPL, but some of the parts aren't, and are either closed, or have licensing issues of some other sort |
| 03:57.13 | Guerin | it's patent issues and code provenance, which is partly license issues |
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| 03:57.24 | SerajewelKS | ah |
| 03:57.26 | Guerin | !mplayer legal saga |
| 03:57.26 | dpkg | Mplayer is currently not in Debian because the legal saga surrounding its codebase has not been concluded. Unfortunatly, upstream has not done due diligence with the licensing of their codebase, creating a need for ftpmaster or a representative to audit the codebase before inclusion in Debian. See http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/thread/20030125.063402.a3a08167.en.html and http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/2 |
| 03:57.34 | SimonRaven | meff: yeh, i know. was just telling you what i do, that's all :) |
| 03:58.07 | HeLpSysTeM | ok what about vlc i can veiw but can't hear. |
| 03:58.12 | xoz | openssh has some issues like patent and license but they *cleaned* it... place those with patent issues in separate libs... |
| 03:58.15 | djperegrine | pftj |
| 03:58.15 | meff | SimonRaven: :) |
| 03:58.19 | djperegrine | lame |
| 03:58.20 | SimonRaven | xoz: yeh |
| 03:58.24 | djperegrine | (no pun) |
| 03:58.44 | SimonRaven | djperegrine: lemme guess, touch typist =) |
| 03:58.51 | xoz | they just don't have enough motivation to clean mplayer :) |
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| 03:58.59 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Link doesn't work. |
| 03:59.10 | chris____ | how do i change my nick? |
| 03:59.19 | Guerin | chris____: /nick chr1s |
| 03:59.22 | sanxiyn | I think there's file called "investigation_0.90" or so in mplayer source tree, |
| 03:59.36 | sanxiyn | Produced by Debian people, analyzing license status of 0.90 source. |
| 03:59.39 | chris____ | well that's fucking easy :) |
| 04:00.22 | sanxiyn | Of course, it is outdated now, and if someone is to package it again, he should do it again... |
| 04:00.23 | sanxiyn | Ugh. |
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| 04:00.57 | nuclearpenguin | what about pkgs not in either? i.e. xine? |
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| 04:01.15 | sanxiyn | nuclearpenguin: xine is not in...? |
| 04:01.23 | SerajewelKS | !info xine-ui |
| 04:01.23 | jazzmanss | what are 3 volt video cards? I just bought a new mobo-cpu, and the specs say it doesn't support 3 volt video cards... is a geforce 2 mx card 3 volt? |
| 04:01.29 | dpkg | xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 1683 kB, Installed size: 3224 kB |
| 04:01.35 | SerajewelKS | nuclearpenguin, looks like xine is in debian to me |
| 04:01.51 | sanxiyn | But it's not named xine, for whatever reason. Sucks. |
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| 04:02.06 | nuclearpenguin | sanxiyn; i dont like it when they mess with my head like that |
| 04:02.16 | SerajewelKS | sanxiyn, because 'xine' can either mean 'the xine ui' or 'the xine library' |
| 04:02.24 | sanxiyn | SerajewelKS: For later, we have libxine. |
| 04:02.47 | sanxiyn | It's just oddity. |
| 04:03.14 | nuclearpenguin | so, scenario; i get a program im tryin to compile and it has a few dependencies like xine and sqlite and what not, whats the quickest/easiest ways to check to see if i have them and then, to get them? |
| 04:03.34 | trollboy | what's going on with ftp.debian.org? |
| 04:03.41 | sanxiyn | nuclearpenguin: auto-apt is very quick, but it's not easy. |
| 04:03.51 | nuclearpenguin | auto-apt? i am oblivious to this |
| 04:04.02 | sanxiyn | nuclearpenguin: Yes, keep it that way. It's utter hack. |
| 04:04.09 | nuclearpenguin | im hooked on apt-get, |
| 04:04.09 | nuclearpenguin | oh |
| 04:04.11 | nuclearpenguin | lol |
| 04:04.17 | nuclearpenguin | sooo, what do you suggest? |
| 04:04.50 | sanxiyn | nuclearpenguin: get libxine-dev and libsqlite0-dev. |
| 04:05.05 | nuclearpenguin | dayum |
| 04:05.36 | sanxiyn | Well, you may want to try auto-apt anyway. |
| 04:05.36 | nuclearpenguin | what about qt? |
| 04:05.56 | nuclearpenguin | this has been building for like 20 minutes and i need to get to beeddddddddd, i dont wanna sit through these makefiles |
| 04:05.56 | sanxiyn | libqt3-mt-dev. |
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| 04:06.10 | sanxiyn | How auto-apt works: |
| 04:06.19 | cddesjar | !qgis |
| 04:06.21 | nuclearpenguin | sanxiyn: my real question, how would i have figured that out myself? so i dont have to ask you everytime i need a pkg :P |
| 04:06.25 | sanxiyn | First it builds a database of all file names in Debian packages. |
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| 04:06.32 | cddesjar | !R |
| 04:06.32 | dpkg | well, r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
| 04:06.43 | sanxiyn | And it replaces some libc functions. |
| 04:07.05 | sanxiyn | If ./configure or whatever tries to read a file in the database, and if the package is not installed, it automatically launches apt. |
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| 04:08.19 | nuclearpenguin | hm |
| 04:08.40 | nuclearpenguin | wow, thats convenient |
| 04:08.51 | sanxiyn | nuclearpenguin: Eh, to find out oneself... I use apt-cache show <library package>, then apt-cache showsrc <corresponding source package>, and read Binary: line to get development package. |
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| 04:09.12 | sanxiyn | For example, apt-cache showsrc sqlite lists: |
| 04:09.17 | nuclearpenguin | so pretty much, if i try to compile a package myself, and it has dependencies, itll apt them automatically |
| 04:09.17 | sanxiyn | Binary: libsqlite0-dev, libsqlite-tcl, sqlite-doc, libsqlite0, sqlite |
| 04:09.30 | sanxiyn | nuclearpenguin: Yes... |
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| 04:09.40 | nuclearpenguin | sanxiyn: thats strangely convenient |
| 04:09.47 | sanxiyn | Provided that it searches same place as Debian packages put the file. |
| 04:09.57 | nuclearpenguin | sanxiyn: what are the odds? |
| 04:10.00 | sanxiyn | Good. |
| 04:10.15 | nuclearpenguin | sanxiyn; so, how do i set it up? =) |
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| 04:10.23 | nuclearpenguin | nvm, ill man it :) |
| 04:10.23 | sanxiyn | apt-get install auto-apt, and read man auto-apt. |
| 04:10.37 | encompass | I am thinking of buying a new hardrive for my old beast... is an ata6 drive going to work where an ata5 used to be? |
| 04:10.55 | sanxiyn | Eh, please note that I have never recommended auto-apt and no warranty and etc etc :( |
| 04:10.56 | nuclearpenguin | you're my hero |
| 04:11.10 | nuclearpenguin | sanxiyn: what do you have against it? im curious |
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| 04:11.37 | sanxiyn | nuclearpenguin: I'm just uncomfortable with it. |
| 04:12.06 | nuclearpenguin | sanxiyn; understandable |
| 04:12.07 | sanxiyn | You may actually like it. Dunno. |
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| 04:12.36 | tmccrary | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:13.00 | encompass | oop, just found it... yes, all ata stuff is backword compat. |
| 04:13.04 | encompass | thanks and see ya |
| 04:13.05 | nuclearpenguin | ill say it now, the #2 reason i refuse to switch to linux is manual installation of dependencies |
| 04:13.06 | sanxiyn | tmccrary: /etc/profile. |
| 04:13.13 | sanxiyn | (It's same in other systems, I think.) |
| 04:13.15 | Guerin | hah |
| 04:13.19 | nuclearpenguin | and im sure that goes for most of us spoiled m$ brats ;) |
| 04:13.25 | Guerin | excellent, i found a decent mplayer legal saga link |
| 04:13.29 | nuclearpenguin | so apt-get is my hero |
| 04:13.44 | tmccrary | thank you sanxiyn, I'll try tat |
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| 04:13.59 | sanxiyn | tmccrary: You will see default system PATH for root and others there. (shipped by Debian) |
| 04:14.21 | tmccrary | yep, this looks right, thanks a lot! :) |
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| 04:14.56 | tmccrary | can I add system variables to this file also? |
| 04:15.05 | tmccrary | like export COOL_STUFF? |
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| 04:15.30 | sanxiyn | tmccrary: Should work |
| 04:15.43 | Guerin | dpkg, no, mplayer legal saga is <reply> Mplayer is currently not in Debian because the legal saga surrounding its codebase has not been concluded. Unfortunatly, upstream has not done due diligence with the licensing of their codebase, creating a need for ftpmaster or a representative to audit the codebase before inclusion in Debian. See http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/mplayer.html |
| 04:15.43 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 04:15.44 | tmccrary | you rock! :) |
| 04:15.48 | crispynix | anyone know how I would go about replacing ubuntu breezy's Xorg with Debian unstable's? I don't plan to do it just yet, but it'd be nice to know for future reference. |
| 04:16.20 | liable | why would you do that? |
| 04:16.32 | crispynix | because I want to switch back to Debian =) |
| 04:16.41 | liable | oh. |
| 04:16.43 | SimonRaven | !mplayer legal saga =~ s/Unfortunatly/Unfortunately/ |
| 04:16.44 | dpkg | OK, SimonRaven |
| 04:16.45 | Guerin | crispynix: so install debian |
| 04:16.55 | Guerin | SimonRaven: heh, good spotting |
| 04:16.58 | SimonRaven | bah, and you teach english? ;p |
| 04:17.03 | crispynix | Guerin: I'd prefer not to, since it should be entirely possible to upgrade to sid from breezy. |
| 04:17.07 | Guerin | SimonRaven: i just copy and paste |
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| 04:17.19 | Guerin | crispynix: why should it be? |
| 04:17.19 | liable | crispynix: googd luck :) |
| 04:17.25 | SimonRaven | Guerin: that's no excuse!!!111 ;) |
| 04:17.30 | crispynix | Guerin: because I did the exact opposite :p |
| 04:17.33 | Guerin | SimonRaven: your rite |
| 04:17.45 | Guerin | crispynix: you get to keep all the bits |
| 04:17.47 | xoz | crispynix: its possible but why do the hard way? backup.. reinstall... |
| 04:17.50 | crispynix | Guerin: I know :p |
| 04:17.59 | Guerin | crispynix: and we get to point and laugh |
| 04:18.11 | crispynix | xoz: dude, this installation is years old and has survived multiple dist-upgrades. I think not. |
| 04:18.45 | tmccrary | Man, I'm a long time GNOME user, but I'm trying KDE and really liking it |
| 04:18.59 | tmccrary | once I remove all the fruity default themey stuff in KDE |
| 04:19.00 | xoz | crispynix: yep dude... but not between debian and ubuntu. it's a good exercise do. take your time and tell us what happened. just don't bother us. |
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| 04:19.14 | crispynix | xoz: bah, whatever. |
| 04:19.27 | SimonRaven | crispynix: yeh, one of my machines here is like that too. all crufty and everything |
| 04:19.42 | crispynix | SimonRaven: this one isn't too crufty |
| 04:19.51 | garyc | what is the latest stable release of debian |
| 04:20.02 | xoz | crispynix: you seemed to know how to do it. why bother us? |
| 04:20.03 | SimonRaven | !sarge |
| 04:20.03 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
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| 04:20.28 | SimonRaven | geordie: i like the hostname ;) |
| 04:20.31 | garyc | what is the latest stable release of debian 3.0 r4 ??? |
| 04:20.40 | SimonRaven | garyc: read ^^^^ |
| 04:20.43 | Guerin | !tell garyc about releases |
| 04:20.54 | Guerin | garyc: please don't be obtuse |
| 04:22.35 | sanxiyn | garyc: 3.0rX is not the latest... |
| 04:22.37 | geordie | SimonRaven: why thank you |
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| 04:23.08 | sanxiyn | Changes: lucene (1.4.3-6) * Moved to main building with kaffe (Closes: #272295) |
| 04:23.09 | sanxiyn | Yay! |
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| 04:23.23 | xfoxx | >_> |
| 04:23.24 | SimonRaven | oh cool. free jvm |
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| 04:23.26 | sanxiyn | (With all tests passing) |
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| 04:23.30 | SimonRaven | nice |
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| 04:23.41 | cddesjar | !java |
| 04:23.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
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| 04:23.55 | cddesjar | Act |
| 04:24.01 | sanxiyn | SimonRaven: Lucene upstream refused any non-all-test-passing package, because they worry about corrupted search index. |
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| 04:24.10 | Mercury | Ahh, got it, finally. |
| 04:24.12 | sanxiyn | SimonRaven: Which makes sense, IMO. |
| 04:24.14 | SimonRaven | that's always a plus when something useful can be built with the free stuff |
| 04:24.28 | xfoxx | Okey i am having an error, and here it is ive installed a package (Ktorrent) and now i want to remove it but i cannot cause it doent work neither with apt nor dpkg, can anyone assist >_> |
| 04:24.29 | SimonRaven | *nods* |
| 04:24.41 | Guerin | !doesn't work |
| 04:24.41 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 04:24.47 | SimonRaven | yeh it does make sense |
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| 04:25.16 | SimonRaven | no, s/he said doent ;p |
| 04:25.33 | cddesjar | if i private message dpkg to ask about java...how do i read the message in irssi-text? |
| 04:25.49 | sanxiyn | cddesjar: Alt-<window number>. |
| 04:25.53 | meff | ctrl-n to the window |
| 04:25.54 | sanxiyn | (Usual window switching) |
| 04:25.57 | SimonRaven | cddesjar: you can do esc (or alt) a to go to the activated window |
| 04:25.59 | cddesjar | thanks! |
| 04:26.41 | xoz | or alt+arrow |
| 04:26.59 | SimonRaven | i used to have F1 and F2 bound to window switching left/right |
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| 04:27.14 | xfoxx | eehh i got a meanie package called Ktorrent i tried to remove it and when i do dpkg it says pacakage it is not installed and get same message from apt, and when i call it form shell (Ktorrent) it does open so it is installed how do i remove this package thank you =) |
| 04:27.21 | SimonRaven | i should set that up again... |
| 04:27.41 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: It is not installed, *from package manager point of view*. |
| 04:27.59 | xoz | xfoxx: then you just rm *bomb* |
| 04:28.01 | sanxiyn | If you installed it with (say) make install, there's no way dpkg/apt can help. |
| 04:28.02 | SimonRaven | xfoxx: maybe you're just calling the package name wrong, as it's known by the packaging system |
| 04:28.21 | xfoxx | but it should be same name to remove as the name i call it |
| 04:28.22 | sanxiyn | SimonRaven: Really? |
| 04:28.28 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: No. |
| 04:28.29 | SimonRaven | that too, of course |
| 04:28.33 | Guerin | xfoxx: no, it shouldn't |
| 04:28.37 | SimonRaven | xfoxx: not always |
| 04:28.38 | xfoxx | ..... (o_O) ohhhh |
| 04:29.00 | SimonRaven | sanxiyn: really what? |
| 04:29.09 | xfoxx | so how do i remove it?? |
| 04:29.23 | xfoxx | E: Couldn't find package Ktorrent |
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| 04:29.35 | SimonRaven | search for it first, then you can tell dpkg/apt the real name for it |
| 04:29.44 | SimonRaven | um, *nix is case sensitive |
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| 04:29.57 | garyc | sanxiyn, I am downloading iso's for a friend with dialup they want all 14 cd's -- I see a directory with 3.1 r0a is that sarge |
| 04:30.00 | SimonRaven | and debs never have caps in the name |
| 04:30.03 | dpower | hey where is everyone? |
| 04:30.05 | dpower | netsplit? |
| 04:30.06 | dvsdude | xfoxx: dpkg -l | grep -i ktorrent |
| 04:30.14 | Guerin | anyone who makes binaries with capitalisation needs to be put up agains thte wall and shot |
| 04:30.17 | SimonRaven | dpower: read the global notices |
| 04:30.23 | sanxiyn | garyc: It's correct directory. |
| 04:30.36 | xfoxx | dvsdude, no answer just passed to another line |
| 04:30.56 | Guerin | !find bin/Ktorr |
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| 04:31.12 | dvsdude | xfoxx: so it isnt installed |
| 04:31.15 | Guerin | xfoxx: how did you install this? |
| 04:31.27 | xfoxx | apt-get install Ktorrent (o_O) |
| 04:31.29 | xfoxx | aah no |
| 04:31.33 | Guerin | xfoxx: bullshit |
| 04:31.34 | SimonRaven | uh, no |
| 04:31.35 | xfoxx | i downloaded it fromthe home page |
| 04:31.40 | Guerin | don't make shit up |
| 04:31.44 | SimonRaven | that's not debian packaged |
| 04:31.50 | xfoxx | (o_o) and made tay zxvf |
| 04:31.52 | xfoxx | tar* |
| 04:31.56 | Guerin | xfoxx: NOFP. |
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| 04:32.46 | dvsdude | xfoxx: go to ur ktorent maybe do make clean |
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| 04:32.59 | Guerin | dvsdude: don't guess |
| 04:33.08 | dvsdude | xfoxx: directory were u made package |
| 04:33.11 | garyc | sanxiyn, thanks I have ubuntu and will switch to debian soon but i will go for minimum install cd and then download the rest down as needed per install |
| 04:33.17 | dvsdude | Guerin: ok |
| 04:33.22 | sanxiyn | garyc: Good idea. |
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| 04:33.28 | SimonRaven | it'd be make uninstall. not every top-level Makefile has that target |
| 04:33.38 | xfoxx | well it was on opt |
| 04:33.44 | xfoxx | but now it is way cleaned |
| 04:33.57 | sanxiyn | Ah, you installed to /opt? |
| 04:34.06 | sanxiyn | Just rm'ing stuffs should do... |
| 04:34.07 | xfoxx | well it was it deafaults |
| 04:34.25 | Guerin | eew, opera |
| 04:34.28 | SimonRaven | should be as easy as a rm -rf /opt/Ktorrent or something similar... |
| 04:34.34 | sanxiyn | Guerin: I need it... |
| 04:34.40 | Guerin | sanxiyn: you poor bastard |
| 04:34.45 | sanxiyn | (As a web developer. Test it from time to time.) |
| 04:34.47 | xfoxx | what happen if i delete entire opt?? |
| 04:34.48 | SimonRaven | it's useful for web dev |
| 04:34.55 | SimonRaven | read my mind ;) |
| 04:34.56 | Guerin | xfoxx: then everything in it will be gone |
| 04:35.14 | xfoxx | Guerin, right >_>, but what i mean is it used by system?? |
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| 04:35.25 | GullyFoyle | i like opera, i know, i know, it's not OSS but i like it any way |
| 04:35.26 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: No Debian package installs to /opt. |
| 04:35.43 | sanxiyn | (Guaranteed.) |
| 04:35.51 | SimonRaven | nor /usr/local |
| 04:36.09 | SimonRaven | (also guaranteed ;) |
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| 04:36.21 | sanxiyn | SimonRaven: Except webmin. Don't ask me. |
| 04:36.38 | xfoxx | woohoo Ktorrent is gone =) |
| 04:36.45 | SimonRaven | actually, i'm wrong, other stuff does, too |
| 04:36.46 | xfoxx | that Mutha fuc*a |
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| 04:37.01 | sanxiyn | (webmin ships symlinks under /usr/local for 3rd party modules.) |
| 04:37.15 | SimonRaven | *nods* |
| 04:37.43 | sanxiyn | SimonRaven: Hm, apt-file search /usr/local shows no other files... |
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| 04:38.04 | sanxiyn | SimonRaven: Of course, TeX generates ls-R there, but it's just a cache. |
| 04:38.35 | SimonRaven | in the past i've seen texmf install stuff there, but postinst created stuff |
| 04:38.38 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 04:38.56 | cddesjar | hey i like this irc client |
| 04:39.05 | SimonRaven | i also see some pike stuff there |
| 04:39.05 | mith | it sucks |
| 04:39.34 | sanxiyn | SimonRaven: And emacs, python, ruby, R, etc. |
| 04:39.39 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 04:39.53 | xfoxx | how do i make bittorrent download something?? |
| 04:39.58 | xfoxx | ive tried all >_> |
| 04:40.15 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: You click torrent link. Browser launes program to start download. |
| 04:40.20 | sanxiyn | launches |
| 04:40.37 | sanxiyn | Or you use some better torrent client. |
| 04:40.43 | xfoxx | (o_O) i cannot start bittorrent to download a .torrent fdrom desktop |
| 04:41.05 | xfoxx | tell me one |
| 04:41.16 | xfoxx | already tried Ktorrent and could open the tracker >_> |
| 04:41.27 | xfoxx | and got this error >_> and Ktorrent is bazura |
| 04:41.28 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: btdownload<something> to download from local .torrent, but... |
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| 04:41.44 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: But you aren't supposed to download from .torrent in local filesystem anyway. |
| 04:41.55 | xfoxx | lol why not?? |
| 04:42.02 | xfoxx | (o_O) does it damage my system some how? |
| 04:42.03 | sanxiyn | It's just not the way how it works. |
| 04:42.07 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: No. |
| 04:42.23 | alvanson | yay for the Hurd |
| 04:42.25 | xfoxx | so what bit downloader you guys recommend?? |
| 04:42.36 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: I don't know. I use the official client. |
| 04:43.00 | xfoxx | and what the official client might be?? |
| 04:43.02 | xfoxx | (O_o) |
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| 04:43.13 | cddesjar | i don't like azureus |
| 04:43.16 | cddesjar | it's too bloated |
| 04:43.17 | SimonRaven | ok, time for backups. later folks |
| 04:43.27 | xfoxx | hehe bye |
| 04:43.36 | xfoxx | and so?? |
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| 04:43.51 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: apt-get install bittorrent-gui (it's the official client) |
| 04:43.54 | xfoxx | i tried bittornado but every file it downoaded was corrupt |
| 04:44.01 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: Eh, really? |
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| 04:44.06 | sanxiyn | BitTornado used to work for me. |
| 04:44.09 | cddesjar | do you guys know how to change font color in irssi-text? |
| 04:44.10 | mith | xfoxx: then you have hardware problems. |
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| 04:44.12 | xfoxx | yeah |
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| 04:44.20 | cddesjar | my name is invisibile |
| 04:44.21 | xfoxx | hardware problems?? |
| 04:44.28 | mith | most likely. |
| 04:44.34 | xfoxx | i can see cddesjar, =P |
| 04:44.43 | cddesjar | well to me it's invisible |
| 04:44.55 | dli | xfoxx, I think bitorrent uses hash table |
| 04:45.03 | xfoxx | (o_o) |
| 04:45.05 | xfoxx | hhmmm |
| 04:45.06 | cddesjar | and the colors are ugly...like blue and bright yellow |
| 04:45.28 | xfoxx | so what torrent can i use |
| 04:45.33 | xfoxx | does emule support torrents?? |
| 04:45.39 | ultraviolet16 | cddesjar: try to make a config file |
| 04:45.40 | dli | xfoxx, I use azureus |
| 04:45.42 | xfoxx | or e donkey? |
| 04:45.58 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: As far as I know, no. |
| 04:46.02 | xfoxx | mm |
| 04:46.07 | xfoxx | great |
| 04:46.13 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: BitTorrent (official) and BitTornado works. |
| 04:46.18 | meff | apt-get install bittornado :P |
| 04:46.18 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: If it doesn't, that's some other problem. |
| 04:46.32 | xfoxx | hhmmm |
| 04:46.33 | sanxiyn | Opera supports BitTorrent. :-) |
| 04:46.43 | sanxiyn | (No, really) |
| 04:46.45 | xfoxx | opera?? it doesnt ?? it does?? |
| 04:46.46 | ultraviolet16 | cddesjar: http://www.wheely-bin.co.uk/pages/32/ |
| 04:47.05 | xfoxx | Opera is a Web browser with a power ranger of logo |
| 04:47.26 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: Opera is a web browser, but also can download torrents. |
| 04:47.36 | sanxiyn | Not a dedicated torrent client though. |
| 04:47.42 | xfoxx | hhhmm.... |
| 04:47.50 | xfoxx | ill go search with my little felow google |
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| 04:48.02 | xfoxx | it hasnt dissapointed no body =P |
| 04:48.04 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: What's wrong with BitTorrent and BitTornado? |
| 04:48.17 | xfoxx | when the file is completed |
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| 04:48.24 | xfoxx | it comes with a security mark |
| 04:48.26 | xfoxx | a candado |
| 04:48.30 | xfoxx | a lock up thingie |
| 04:48.31 | meff | uhh |
| 04:48.35 | meff | wtf? |
| 04:48.39 | cddesjar | thanks |
| 04:48.43 | cddesjar | i found the config file |
| 04:48.46 | cddesjar | and changed my nick |
| 04:48.46 | xfoxx | and i cannot access it (O_O) |
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| 04:48.53 | cddesjar | now i just need to figure out how to change the color |
| 04:48.55 | sanxiyn | PEBKAC? |
| 04:49.04 | meff | wtf are you talking about xfoxx |
| 04:49.11 | sanxiyn | meff: Yes. |
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| 04:49.57 | xfoxx | ?? |
| 04:49.59 | ultraviolet16 | cddesjar: also you might try to set different parameters with the /set command |
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| 04:50.15 | meff | just use bittornado and be happy mmk |
| 04:50.18 | cees | hi anyone can help me? Debian ppc Sarge |
| 04:50.28 | sanxiyn | cees: Go ahead. |
| 04:50.31 | ultraviolet16 | cddesjar: for example I set my nick = ultraviolet16 with /set nick ultraviolet16 |
| 04:50.46 | ultraviolet16 | cees: don't ask to ask, just ask.. for future knowledge =) |
| 04:50.55 | cees | The bottom bar in my desktop is Missing!! |
| 04:51.03 | lakcaj | Firefox keeps segfaulting on me at random times. I have no extensions installed. This is on an up to date sarge install. |
| 04:51.08 | lakcaj | Any ideas? |
| 04:51.15 | meff | heheh |
| 04:51.20 | sanxiyn | cees: Which desktop? |
| 04:51.26 | ultraviolet16 | cees: what window manager are you using? |
| 04:51.27 | cees | Gnome |
| 04:51.27 | meff | lakcaj: do other things crash too? |
| 04:51.36 | sanxiyn | lakcaj: I experienced the same. |
| 04:51.43 | ultraviolet16 | cees: like kde, gnome, fluxbox, blackbox.. |
| 04:51.48 | ultraviolet16 | oh ok sry |
| 04:51.53 | xoz | lakcaj: querybts <package> |
| 04:51.55 | lakcaj | meff: no... all of a sudden firefox has started segfaulting out of nowhere. |
| 04:52.05 | meff | i'd suggest memtest86 just in case.. ff uses alot of ram :P |
| 04:52.10 | meff | hmm |
| 04:52.19 | cees | I did apt-get install mozilla-thuderbird can be that? |
| 04:52.20 | xoz | lakcaj: i think memory is leaking. |
| 04:52.25 | lakcaj | I removed ~/.mozilla -rfv and only brought back my bookmarks, but still keeps randomly closing. This is after months of working perfectly. |
| 04:52.27 | sanxiyn | lakcaj: Is it related to viewing any specific page? |
| 04:52.31 | ultraviolet16 | cees: probably not |
| 04:52.32 | lakcaj | sanxiyn: no |
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| 04:52.37 | cddesjar | #[5,#] |
| 04:52.39 | lakcaj | xoz: thanks, I'll look |
| 04:52.41 | xoz | lakcaj: if you reboot, the same problem occurs? |
| 04:52.45 | cddesjar | whoops |
| 04:52.52 | lakcaj | xoz: not sure... I hate to reboot :) |
| 04:52.53 | cees | then what can be? |
| 04:53.01 | ultraviolet16 | cees: i don't use gnome, i'm not too sure how to help you, sorry |
| 04:53.03 | xoz | lakcaj: how large is your mem? |
| 04:53.22 | lakcaj | 512 |
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| 04:53.30 | cddesjar | FOO |
| 04:53.30 | sanxiyn | cees: You have top bar? |
| 04:53.31 | ultraviolet16 | it's most likely a setting you have set to 'autohide" or something |
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| 04:53.33 | cees | when I click de minimize bottom, the appli gone |
| 04:53.36 | w3rdn4 | what is good about css websites vs html? |
| 04:53.39 | cees | top bar yes |
| 04:53.52 | sanxiyn | cees: Right click on it, choose "New Panel". |
| 04:53.52 | meff | lakcaj: just to rule out you should do memtest86 if it just started happening out of the blue |
| 04:53.52 | xoz | lakcaj: yep. that's bound to occur if you use big progs... after some time, you'll have this random quits. |
| 04:53.58 | cees | the bottom bar is there, but empty |
| 04:54.07 | xfoxx | how was the command to download with bittornado?? |
| 04:54.13 | sanxiyn | cees: Ah. |
| 04:54.14 | meff | xoz: not true, if so he'd have OOM's in his dmesg. |
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| 04:54.20 | sanxiyn | cees: Populate it with some applets then. |
| 04:54.24 | xoz | lakcaj: and mozilla+firefox+kde |
| 04:54.27 | lakcaj | meff: ok. xoz: not the answer I was looking for ;) |
| 04:54.41 | lakcaj | well, I'm in gnome, but oh well |
| 04:54.44 | cees | I did, I have new panel, in right side, empty :( |
| 04:54.51 | xoz | meff: i have similar experience. for machines with 1GB, no problem |
| 04:54.56 | sanxiyn | cees: Delete it :-) |
| 04:55.00 | electrofreak | What happened with ChanServ??? |
| 04:55.04 | xoz | meff: exactly the same config |
| 04:55.04 | meff | lakcaj: search /var/lib/syslog for OOM and make sure there arent any out of memory conditions happening |
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| 04:55.21 | meff | err |
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| 04:55.24 | meff | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.26 | bonz | Sumone please recommend a particular brand/model of pda for use with debian |
| 04:55.49 | cees | uuppsss I did and now I haven-t none! |
| 04:55.53 | lakcaj | meff: ok, thanks |
| 04:55.57 | xoz | lakcaj: for the time being. reboot. im sure you'll have firefox running again. it's time to use links2 :) |
| 04:55.58 | lakcaj | thanks everyone for your suggestions |
| 04:56.07 | lakcaj | bah |
| 04:56.08 | lakcaj | :) |
| 04:56.22 | meff | lakcaj: how much swap? |
| 04:56.25 | bonz | links2?? |
| 04:56.41 | lakcaj | meff: gig |
| 04:56.45 | Guerin | bonz: zaurus |
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| 04:56.47 | xoz | !info links2 |
| 04:56.50 | xfan | 256MB is a good swap |
| 04:56.51 | dpkg | links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre18-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1963 kB, Installed size: 3060 kB |
| 04:57.04 | BillGates | can anyone reccomend a good ftp daemon for debian ? |
| 04:57.06 | bonz | Guerin: thanks I couldn't for the life of me remember i's name :) |
| 04:57.10 | meff | lakcaj: hmm weird.. im having a hard time believing its cause of your low ram.. |
| 04:57.12 | bonz | it's rather |
| 04:57.21 | Guerin | BillGates: telnet ftp.debian.org 21 |
| 04:57.30 | xfoxx | holy crap i still got ktorrent wtf... |
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| 04:57.33 | xfoxx | (o_O)! |
| 04:57.35 | lakcaj | meff: no OOM errors in anything in /var/log |
| 04:57.40 | Guerin | xfoxx: which ktorrent |
| 04:57.40 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Ingenious. |
| 04:57.40 | cees | I remember ... the icons change , then return .. but the panel was gone |
| 04:58.01 | BillGates | vsftpd |
| 04:58.02 | BillGates | ty |
| 04:58.09 | BillGates | apt-get install vsftpd ? |
| 04:58.10 | xfoxx | Guerin, ktorrent 1.1 i cannot get rid of this |
| 04:58.11 | meff | lakcaj: then i doubt its your ram.. programs dont randomly segfault due to you having low ram unless they run out (OOM) :P |
| 04:58.16 | Guerin | BillGates: suck it and see |
| 04:58.17 | sanxiyn | BillGates: Yes. |
| 04:58.20 | BillGates | :) |
| 04:58.28 | xoz | lakcaj: really, it will not show but im sure it happens if you use big mem progs like konqueror/mozilla. by the way, what kernel? |
| 04:58.34 | Guerin | xfoxx: tell me the output of the command 'which ktorrent' |
| 04:58.47 | cees | I just did new panel, but its empty |
| 04:58.48 | xfoxx | i just put ktorrent in the shell |
| 04:58.55 | xfoxx | and it comes Guerin |
| 04:58.56 | meff | lakcaj: try memtest86 and come bacak with results after running that for at least an hour. |
| 04:58.58 | lakcaj | xoz, meff: I've started doing 3d modeling in blender. I wonder if it is eating all the ram. 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 04:58.59 | sanxiyn | (www.debian.org:) Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux PHP/4.1.2 DAV/1.0.3 |
| 04:59.00 | Guerin | !jatfq xfoxx |
| 04:59.03 | dpkg | xfoxx: Just Answer The Fucking Question |
| 04:59.10 | xoz | lakcaj: and it happens after some time.... like memory is leaking and something explodes later. |
| 04:59.18 | xfoxx | Guerin, i dont know what you asking =S |
| 04:59.20 | The_Ball | i have a file which contains filename with white spaces in the, im trying a bash for loop on it: for a in `cat files`; but the filenames are read as one fil per whitspace, I have tried adding " in front and after each file but still the same behaviour, how can i do this? |
| 04:59.33 | Guerin | xfoxx: type which ktorrent; and hit enter |
| 04:59.34 | lakcaj | it's always firefox though. xmms keeps going, as does blender without a hitch. |
| 04:59.41 | xoz | lakcaj: very random but takes a while after reboot... maybe several days. |
| 04:59.46 | xfoxx | Pixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used |
| 04:59.46 | xfoxx | QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used |
| 04:59.46 | xfoxx | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 04:59.46 | xfoxx | Xlib: No protocol specified |
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| 04:59.53 | Guerin | oh god |
| 04:59.55 | BillGates | which directory does vsftpd install too? |
| 04:59.57 | ultraviolet16 | hehe |
| 04:59.58 | xfoxx | and lots and lots of errors |
| 05:00.02 | sanxiyn | god |
| 05:00.03 | BillGates | or where can i find the config |
| 05:00.03 | Guerin | BillGates: / |
| 05:00.09 | BillGates | im a noob sorry |
| 05:00.09 | Guerin | BillGates: man vsftpd |
| 05:00.13 | BillGates | im bill gates ..... |
| 05:00.16 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 05:00.18 | Guerin | BillGates: why are you running a ftp server, then? |
| 05:00.18 | xoz | lakcaj: what about gimp? more often, i experience the same in firefox. that's why i avoid using it. for bigger ram, there's no problem. |
| 05:00.19 | lakcaj | BillGates: dpkg -L vsftpd |
| 05:00.28 | BillGates | why? so i can share files on a network |
| 05:00.37 | sanxiyn | BillGates: HTTP does a better job. |
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| 05:00.40 | meff | sigh, xoz things dont randomly segfault due to lack of ram.. unless they run into an oom situation.. so if you have to reboot to keep your apps running, then something in your hardware is faulty. |
| 05:00.47 | BillGates | ty lakcaj |
| 05:00.58 | lakcaj | xoz: I use gimp occasionally, but not too heavily. It has never died on me though. I tried running firefox from the CLI for an error message, but I only get "Segmentation fault". |
| 05:01.08 | sanxiyn | lakcaj: Ah. |
| 05:01.08 | lakcaj | BillGates: np |
| 05:01.12 | sanxiyn | lakcaj: So it's segfault. Good. |
| 05:01.24 | lakcaj | can I do a trace? I'm not sure how. |
| 05:01.25 | cddesjar | anyone familiar with qtorrent? is it any good? |
| 05:01.39 | Guerin | !anyone use qtorrent |
| 05:01.40 | dpkg | No, no one uses qtorrent, not even the people who use it. |
| 05:01.48 | wOOt | cddesjar, i prefer Azureus |
| 05:02.06 | xoz | meff: probably. but after i removed firefox and mozilla, i seemed to have no more problem. maybe a bug in coding or whatnot... but it happens. still can't figure it out. |
| 05:02.10 | meff | FFS pick a damn torrent program |
| 05:02.15 | cddesjar | ha ha |
| 05:02.19 | cddesjar | i don't like azureus |
| 05:02.19 | w3rdn4 | qtorrent!!! |
| 05:02.24 | w3rdn4 | I use qtorrent |
| 05:02.27 | ultraviolet16 | does anyone know the command to turn off Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 05:02.28 | cddesjar | it's too bloated |
| 05:02.30 | lakcaj | btdownloadcurses! |
| 05:02.30 | sanxiyn | BitTorrent works for me. |
| 05:02.34 | ultraviolet16 | it's like x* - |
| 05:02.36 | cddesjar | i usually use bittornade |
| 05:02.45 | xoz | lakcaj: also restarting X may help. or init 1 and init back to 2. |
| 05:02.57 | meff | xoz: i'd be surprised if your ram is faulty, and progs like ff/mozilla just stress it to the point that it flips a bit or whatnot.. i have ran boxes with less memory w/out ff segfaulting. |
| 05:02.57 | ultraviolet16 | something with a minus sign to turn off and then the + sign to turn on |
| 05:03.17 | sanxiyn | lakcaj: If you want to trace/debug Mozillae, set DEBUGGER environment variable. |
| 05:03.22 | ultraviolet16 | nobody? |
| 05:03.28 | lakcaj | sanxiyn: I'll have to do some googling |
| 05:03.30 | sanxiyn | lakcaj: Doing "gdb mozilla-firefox" won't work, because it's a shell script. |
| 05:03.31 | xoz | meff: yep. i just have to learn how to live with the system. avoid stress ;) |
| 05:03.36 | ultraviolet16 | ah forget it, it's xhost.. got it |
| 05:03.36 | lakcaj | ah |
| 05:03.47 | lakcaj | ultraviolet16: glad we could help |
| 05:03.49 | xfoxx | if i do apt-get remove make what will happen?? |
| 05:04.01 | lakcaj | nothing |
| 05:04.02 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: APT will remove make. |
| 05:04.08 | wOOt | lol |
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| 05:04.14 | xfoxx | he following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 05:04.14 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.22 | meff | lol |
| 05:04.28 | lakcaj | and? |
| 05:04.29 | xfoxx | is this important?? =P |
| 05:04.31 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: Why are you doing that? |
| 05:04.40 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: Are you short on disk space? |
| 05:04.41 | xfoxx | cause when i was installing Ktorrent |
| 05:04.43 | xfoxx | i did this |
| 05:04.49 | xfoxx | tar -xvzf ktorrent-X.Y.tar.gz |
| 05:04.50 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.50 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.50 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.50 | xfoxx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:04.54 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 05:04.54 | meff | rofl |
| 05:04.55 | lakcaj | :) |
| 05:04.57 | xoz | lakcaj: for a while, avoid big program.. or maybe swap your ram... memtest it |
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| 05:05.03 | sanxiyn | Someone please please make it quote of a day. |
| 05:05.07 | xfoxx | well i got 300 Gb of space i don tthink it will be a matter of space |
| 05:05.14 | xfoxx | =P |
| 05:05.17 | ultraviolet16 | man someone should tell xfoxx about flood |
| 05:05.18 | lakcaj | xoz: yeah, I'm going to have to. This is an older machine, maybe it's dying :( |
| 05:05.22 | ultraviolet16 | like dpkg |
| 05:05.23 | ultraviolet16 | =) |
| 05:05.30 | xfoxx | i know about flood |
| 05:05.42 | xfoxx | >_> but i wana get rid of thi sprogram |
| 05:05.43 | meff | lakcaj: run it for at least an hr, preferably overnight.. |
| 05:05.43 | ultraviolet16 | um then stop flooding. |
| 05:05.43 | lakcaj | xfoxx: so you just choose to ignore the rules of the channel? |
| 05:05.46 | xfoxx | >_< |
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| 05:05.58 | gobuster | mwmtnt |
| 05:05.59 | meff | stop with the damn anime face shit |
| 05:06.00 | xfoxx | nope i respect rules, but i want to get rid of this program |
| 05:06.00 | stew | wow, a rather select bunch we are this evening |
| 05:06.12 | xoz | !whisper xfoxx |
| 05:06.15 | sanxiyn | <xfoxx> if i do apt-get remove make what will happen?? <sanxiyn> Why are you doing that? <xfoxx> cause when i was installing Ktorrent, I typed "make install" |
| 05:06.21 | cees | how can I get the bottom panel in gnome? |
| 05:06.27 | stew | !aolify xoz |
| 05:06.31 | sanxiyn | lol lol rotfl hahahahahaha |
| 05:06.35 | lakcaj | ok, thanks again guys. I'm going to run memtest and see what comes up. I'll also try setting the DEBUGGER variable |
| 05:06.37 | sanxiyn | Sorry. |
| 05:06.38 | ultraviolet16 | xfoxx: then paste in a flood channel or something |
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| 05:06.51 | xoz | heh |
| 05:06.53 | xfoxx | (o_O) if i do that you guys wont help me =P |
| 05:07.03 | meff | xfoxx: stop stop STOP |
| 05:07.05 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: Go away. |
| 05:07.10 | lakcaj | cees: do you have a top panel? |
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| 05:07.18 | lakcaj | guess not |
| 05:07.19 | sanxiyn | xfoxx: make has nothing to do with getting rid of that fucking program. Why being stupid? |
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| 05:07.36 | xfoxx | i am just doing a rollback of what i did when installing Ktorrent |
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| 05:07.49 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 05:07.51 | Guerin | xfoxx: no. |
| 05:07.55 | roo9 | does anyone know how to fetch the finformation contained in the SSL certificate of a remote website? I'm looking for something command line that I can automate |
| 05:08.00 | Guerin | xfoxx: did you do which ktorrent; yet? |
| 05:08.01 | Frem | How can I make GTK 1.x programs use a smaller font? When I try to change it in switch, I get a thing "this is a 2-bit font and will not display correctly". |
| 05:08.05 | Guerin | the command is: |
| 05:08.05 | meff | unless you installed it in a sandbox, you'll probably have no clue all of what it installed.. so give up xfoxx |
| 05:08.07 | Guerin | which ktorrent |
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| 05:08.20 | Guerin | xfoxx: ok? nothing else. which ktorrent |
| 05:08.37 | ke6isf | Has Sunday started early? |
| 05:08.42 | xfoxx | Ktorrent 1.1....??? |
| 05:08.47 | Adrian | looks like it |
| 05:08.47 | ultraviolet16 | xfoxx: maybe there are some logs as to what apt-get did |
| 05:08.53 | Guerin | ke6isf: 12 years and a bit agi, IIRC |
| 05:08.56 | Frem | xfoxx: can't you remove it with "make uninstall" or "make remove"? |
| 05:08.58 | Guerin | s/agi/ago/ |
| 05:09.00 | xfoxx | i didnt installed with apt-get |
| 05:09.01 | meff | he did not use apt!! damn ultraviolet16 |
| 05:09.02 | ke6isf | !always sunday |
| 05:09.02 | dpkg | Just as it's always September, somewhere, out on the internet, it's always Sunday here in #debian. |
| 05:09.09 | xfoxx | frem, let me try |
| 05:09.14 | xfoxx | make remove Ktorrent |
| 05:09.16 | xfoxx | opps |
| 05:09.16 | Guerin | xfoxx: jesusfuckingchrost |
| 05:09.16 | ultraviolet16 | meff: go drink a beer |
| 05:09.16 | xfoxx | XD |
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| 05:09.29 | sanxiyn | ke6isf: Haha |
| 05:09.32 | Guerin | xfoxx: type 'which ktorrent' in a termina and hit <enter> |
| 05:09.34 | meff | ultraviolet16: sure if you make him go away |
| 05:09.38 | xoz | !whisper xfoxx |
| 05:09.39 | dpkg | xfoxx, tar gzip your mouth, please. |
| 05:09.42 | Guerin | xfoxx: can you manage this simple action? |
| 05:10.13 | ultraviolet16 | meff: my friend.. i'm going to drink a beer at a friends party now. if you were in miami i would get you off of the computer on a friday night and we'de go gget a beer |
| 05:10.21 | ke6isf | xfoxx: Removal instructions can be found in the README or INSTALL file that was included with the source package. |
| 05:10.21 | xfoxx | Guerin, wooo i got the file location Oh mangu!! (anime face) |
| 05:10.33 | meff | ultraviolet16: sounds good to me ;) |
| 05:10.34 | ke6isf | xfoxx: And calm down, please. |
| 05:10.40 | Guerin | xfoxx: are you going to tell us what it is? |
| 05:10.43 | ultraviolet16 | meff: but your not here, so i'm sorry |
| 05:11.01 | meff | ultraviolet16: no prob, i got enough liquor :D |
| 05:11.14 | ultraviolet16 | meff: so take it easy buddy. and to the rest of you, i'm out. goodbye! good luck starfox with your problem |
| 05:11.25 | meff | starfox hahah |
| 05:11.32 | ultraviolet16 | ;) |
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| 05:12.17 | meff | which ktorrent | xargs rm |
| 05:12.19 | meff | :P |
| 05:12.25 | xfoxx | /usr/bin/ktorrent |
| 05:12.37 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 05:12.45 | Guerin | !find bin/ktorrent |
| 05:12.56 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/ktorrent' returned no results. |
| 05:13.17 | xoz | find / -iname "*ktorrent*" -exec rm {} \; |
| 05:13.30 | meff | Guerin: he installed it from some tar on the progs site |
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| 05:14.38 | Guerin | echo -e '!#/bin/sh\necho "you are a fucking idiot"' > /usr/bin/ktorrent && chmod +x /usr/bin/ktorrent |
| 05:14.45 | Guerin | needs to be done as root |
| 05:14.47 | meff | lol |
| 05:14.52 | wOOt | bahaha |
| 05:15.05 | xoz | s/you are/i am/ |
| 05:15.19 | deadcat | Guerin: if you '', \n aint gonna work right? |
| 05:15.28 | Guerin | deadcat: oh, probably not |
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| 05:15.44 | sanxiyn | Guerin: swap double and single quotes. |
| 05:15.51 | meff | its the thought that counts, Guerin :) |
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| 05:15.56 | deadcat | just alias that motherfucker |
| 05:15.56 | Guerin | nope, that works fine |
| 05:16.05 | starscalling | eh |
| 05:16.09 | starscalling | so lets see here... |
| 05:16.10 | dli | xoz: no luck in getting my usb hdd :( |
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| 05:16.13 | Guerin | oh |
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| 05:16.21 | starscalling | when i install debain is apt-get on the iso? |
| 05:16.24 | sanxiyn | Guerin: Oh. |
| 05:16.35 | xoz | dli: what about madrake kernel? |
| 05:16.36 | Guerin | except !# is a typo |
| 05:16.37 | meff | starscalling: being its the pkg manager, yes. |
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| 05:16.54 | sanxiyn | everyday learns new thing |
| 05:17.01 | Frem | how do I change my DPI for xfree86? |
| 05:17.04 | atrus | what was that whole "forbidden channel" problem today/yesterday? |
| 05:17.05 | dli | xoz: I can compile the kernel, but could add modules for my ipw2200 and nvidia |
| 05:17.09 | starscalling | Guerin: is there a dvd version of debian with like everthing on it? |
| 05:17.15 | dli | xoz: so, I gave up |
| 05:17.16 | starscalling | b/c im out of cd roms :P |
| 05:17.16 | Guerin | starscalling: yes. |
| 05:17.22 | meff | atrus: we rather not talk about it.. :P |
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| 05:17.30 | starscalling | sweet, mind pointing me in the right direction? |
| 05:17.41 | atrus | meff: why? |
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| 05:17.49 | cees | hi, I am newly. I did!! (the bottom panel) |
| 05:17.58 | Guerin | !tell starscalling about install debian |
| 05:18.00 | ke6isf | cees: Erm, what? |
| 05:18.08 | xoz | dli: bug the developers to support your hdd :) |
| 05:18.08 | dli | xoz: mandriva kernel has something like ieee80211, and causing trouble for my ipw2200 module compiling |
| 05:18.09 | starscalling | !tell starscalling about apt-get sources |
| 05:18.19 | Frem | !confuse cees |
| 05:18.20 | dpkg | Yes, them was our badger today, cees? pants of the democracy of belarus with extra crabpaste |
| 05:18.22 | meff | atrus: freenode was compromised.. thats all. |
| 05:18.24 | ke6isf | !tell starscalling -about msg the bot |
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| 05:18.33 | starscalling | heh |
| 05:18.36 | ke6isf | !beer Frem |
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| 05:18.43 | starscalling | i knew i just forgot which bot was the bot |
| 05:18.46 | Frem | yay. :-) |
| 05:18.52 | dli | xoz: one idea, I will try knoppix, it might support my hdd, and there's no need for installation |
| 05:18.52 | cees | I did lose my bottom panel . Sorry my English is so bad :) |
| 05:18.54 | encompass | What deb contains the free-true type fonts? |
| 05:19.05 | Frem | cees: what is your native language? |
| 05:19.07 | Guerin | encompass: apt-cache search fonts |
| 05:19.15 | cees | Spanish |
| 05:19.27 | xoz | dli: and you can use knoppix kernel also for debian. |
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| 05:19.53 | encompass | Guerin that didn't work |
| 05:19.55 | ke6isf | !es |
| 05:19.55 | xoz | encompass: apt-cache search true-type |
| 05:19.55 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:20.14 | Guerin | encompass: yes, it did. |
| 05:20.16 | atrus | meff: do you know what was compromised at all? eg, can nickserv passwords be considered safe anymore? |
| 05:20.17 | xoz | or truetype |
| 05:20.19 | dli | xoz: I'm on gentoo now :) |
| 05:20.31 | sanxiyn | encompass: apt-cache search ttf |
| 05:20.32 | meff | atrus: further discussion go to #freenode |
| 05:20.35 | cees | any friends in this room help me. For that I send the first message |
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| 05:20.40 | encompass | apt-get search is not a valid command |
| 05:20.51 | xoz | encompass: apt-cache |
| 05:20.53 | sanxiyn | encompass: "apt-cache", not "apt-get". |
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| 05:21.11 | dli | xoz: or I can wait for a future kernel release |
| 05:21.23 | ke6isf | cees: Try in #debian-es, we speak English here. Sorry. |
| 05:21.30 | cees | What I did was only "recontruct" the panel piece by piece |
| 05:21.32 | xoz | dli: long shot though. trade-in. |
| 05:21.35 | atrus | meff: why there? it's a staff-only social channel, where i can't talk, and the topic doesn't seem to mention the attack at all |
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| 05:21.54 | dli | ke6isf, I speak Chinese :( |
| 05:21.56 | Guerin | atrus: if you lurk in #freenode, you'll get voice |
| 05:21.59 | encompass | oops ha |
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| 05:22.01 | ke6isf | !cn |
| 05:22.01 | dpkg | somebody said cn was China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 05:22.06 | sanxiyn | dli: "here". |
| 05:22.12 | Frem | cees: What desktop are you using? Gnome? KDE? |
| 05:22.13 | cees | ya, I Know, but my experience is I found better help here |
| 05:22.13 | ke6isf | dli: But, your english seems pretty good. |
| 05:22.15 | sanxiyn | Argh that's not UTF-8! |
| 05:22.20 | cees | Gnome |
| 05:22.20 | sanxiyn | Somebody fix !cn. |
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| 05:22.38 | dli | ke6isf, I think I have made my kernel utf-8 compatible |
| 05:22.39 | Guerin | not me |
| 05:22.51 | meff | brb |
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| 05:23.01 | Frem | cees:so you don't have *any* panel at all, or you lost all the icons off of it, or what? |
| 05:23.12 | cees | I found many posts in blogs about this, and none was correct |
| 05:23.31 | cees | I lose "all" the bottom panel |
| 05:23.33 | ke6isf | cees: What were you doing before you lost your Gnome panel? |
| 05:23.51 | cees | I was intalling Mozilla thunderbird |
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| 05:24.23 | Frem | cees: have you tried logging out and back in again? It sounds like your gnome panel might have crashed. |
| 05:24.35 | cees | yes, i did, but none. |
| 05:25.01 | xoz | cees: rm ~.gnome* to reset your gnome? |
| 05:25.11 | xoz | cees: then reloing |
| 05:25.11 | ke6isf | cees: I believe the only way is to reconstruct. What version of Debian are you running? |
| 05:25.17 | xoz | cees: then relogin |
| 05:25.30 | cees | What I did was, in top panel : new panel, the I add each elements |
| 05:25.33 | dli | xoz: or just reinstall gnome-panel? |
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| 05:25.58 | encompass | can't you jsut add a panel |
| 05:26.21 | cees | I have Debian Sarge ppc |
| 05:26.22 | ke6isf | encompass: It's easy to add a panel, but it's a pain to put back what you just had on said panel. =/ |
| 05:27.05 | Frem | ke6isf: the only thing on the bottom panel is the hide desktop button, the task switcher, and the desktop switcher. |
| 05:27.09 | xoz | dli: i think it's a configuration problem... but perhaps. |
| 05:27.25 | xoz | !qball what's your outlook? |
| 05:27.25 | dpkg | the outlook is bad |
| 05:27.38 | cees | I think, while my Ibook was "sleep", posibly I remove the panel. none seems fall |
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| 05:28.08 | xoz | cees: have you tried removing .gnome* and relogin? |
| 05:28.15 | dli | xoz: not really, I remember it happened to me, after upgrading the gnome version, I lost the panel, everything, including the task list |
| 05:28.26 | Frem | cees: So, you don't know what to add to this new panel to reconstruct the old one? |
| 05:28.44 | cddesjar | does anyone know what the gnome printing manager is called? |
| 05:28.47 | dli | xoz: I was trying to add them back manually, but then realized I only need to reinstall the gnome-panel package |
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| 05:29.05 | Frem | cddesjar: gpm? |
| 05:29.12 | cees | Another question. What about java plugins for ppc? |
| 05:29.21 | xoz | dli: plus the changes during upgrade which introduces new context about the config files. |
| 05:29.47 | Frem | cees: you'll have to take that up with Sun. We don't have any control over what they package. :-/ |
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| 05:30.00 | deadcat | java support in ppc sucks.. |
| 05:30.04 | dli | xoz: now gnome is getting as buggy as kde :( |
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| 05:30.30 | cees | I read "try the IBM java" but it seems dont be a plugin, only a develop environment |
| 05:30.36 | xoz | dli: yep. desktop apps do that to please the user |
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| 05:30.53 | Frem | dli: Only one solution: ditch them all and use something else! |
| 05:30.54 | xoz | dli: for bleeding apps |
| 05:31.01 | cees | Sun don't have java for ppc :) |
| 05:31.07 | xoz | dli: that's why i like openbox |
| 05:31.09 | dli | Frem: icewm still runs well |
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| 05:31.26 | Frem | dli: what do you think I use? ;-) |
| 05:31.45 | deadcat | cees: ya. java,flash dont work in ppc.... fuck them |
| 05:31.46 | dli | Frem: but you do speak Chinese with icewm :( |
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| 05:32.12 | Frem | dli: Noooo... Is their localization bad? |
| 05:32.17 | darkcmd | I'm a big IceWM fan |
| 05:32.20 | deadcat | xoz: got screenshot? |
| 05:32.29 | darkcmd | xoz, yeah do you? |
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| 05:32.33 | dli | xoz: I'm running out of memory often, considering switching back to icewm :) |
| 05:32.46 | cees | mmm sadly I have an Ibook I haven't hope? |
| 05:33.05 | Frem | cees: that's what OS X is for... ;-) |
| 05:33.13 | deadcat | cees: like i said. fuck java and flash. everything works fine of the ibook (= |
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| 05:33.19 | dli | Frem: I think it's okay for icewm, but gnome, kde are very friendly with Chinese |
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| 05:33.31 | deadcat | cees: dont believe him. ibook runs fine with debian.. |
| 05:33.40 | cees | deadcat, yap. I love my "blanquito" |
| 05:33.55 | deadcat | cees: blanquito? |
| 05:33.59 | Frem | dli: how much ram do you have? I've only got like 64mb. IceWM ain't very friendly with english, either. ;-) |
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| 05:34.38 | dli | Frem: I have 512, but I am obiviously abusing that, compared your 64 :( |
| 05:34.40 | deadcat | darkcmd: openbox screenshot: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20051010_20156.png |
| 05:34.48 | dli | Frem, can you upgrade? |
| 05:35.11 | Frem | dli: on a 6/7 year old laptop? |
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| 05:35.29 | deadcat | cees: you have a g3 or g4? |
| 05:35.36 | dli | Frem: I just gave out a module of 128 pc/133 for free |
| 05:35.50 | dli | Frem: it's pc/66 ? |
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| 05:36.06 | Frem | dli: no idea. it's rather old. |
| 05:36.12 | astronut | !marillat |
| 05:36.12 | dpkg | from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 05:36.33 | dli | Frem: if so, I can give you module of 64mb pc/66 for free :) |
| 05:36.58 | Frem | dli: It's a Gateway Solo 2500, if that tells you anything. |
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| 05:38.34 | meff | deadcat: i want your torsmo config.. or whatever the hell the thing is on the left :) |
| 05:38.42 | deadcat | meff: conkyrc |
| 05:38.54 | deadcat | meff: sshonly.sytes.net/config/home/deadcat/.conkyrc |
| 05:38.55 | dli | Frem: 2500 what? what are the letters following? |
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| 05:39.04 | meff | deadcat: gracias |
| 05:39.07 | cees | I found more speed wih Debian than OS X in productivity apps!!! |
| 05:39.10 | cees | I explain. My job need very big text books, I use MS word for OS X, but it was so slow!!! |
| 05:39.12 | cees | now i use Debian with oo, without problems |
| 05:39.20 | cees | Is there any room about debian ppc specialized? Anyone know it? |
| 05:39.26 | Guerin | !ppc |
| 05:39.26 | dpkg | ppc is probably short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc, or not going to be used by Apple much longer |
| 05:39.30 | Frem | dli: there *are* no letters following. It's just a solo 2500. |
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| 05:39.40 | deadcat | cees: no one there. more ppc user here than there. |
| 05:39.45 | deadcat | cees: g3 or g4? |
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| 05:40.24 | justin420 | hi, anyone help with upgrading to the newest version of kde? my deb system is currently running 3.3 and i would like to run the latest version... i have downloaded kontruct but havent done anything with it yet. |
| 05:40.39 | dli | Frem 333MHz Intel Pentium II |
| 05:40.39 | dli | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.47 | Frem | dli: yep, that's it. |
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| 05:41.01 | deadcat | meff: if you want a calendar: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/ibook/xwd_20051010_32540.png <- bottom right. thats a conky as well. |
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| 05:41.42 | dli | Frem: http://www.18004memory.com/result.asp?modelID=6103&mfgID=41&page=MEM |
| 05:41.50 | darkcmd | how can I pull my pop3 mail to my local spool |
| 05:41.55 | meff | holy crap deadcat .. you have nice desktop design skills :) |
| 05:41.59 | stew | darkcmd: fetchmail |
| 05:42.02 | Frem | dli: actually, it's not that bad. I just have to use lightweight desktops and slightly older programs. |
| 05:42.03 | meff | i love that prompt, deadcat |
| 05:42.10 | deadcat | meff: thanks. |
| 05:42.13 | meff | skyblue is my fav color :D |
| 05:42.41 | deadcat | meff: took a while since the guy didnt reply my email. so i just do it myself and make it look better than his. |
| 05:42.45 | darkcmd | I would like to be able to use mutt as my user to read the local spool as well as pop3 from a remote place |
| 05:42.57 | dli | Frem: one additional memory module doesn't add much to the weight |
| 05:42.57 | Frem | dli: looks like what this thing would use... but this is not an LS. Think theres a difference? |
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| 05:43.07 | meff | deadcat: what term is that, with the ansi-type tabs at the bottom? |
| 05:43.22 | deadcat | meff: ya. i modified the window buttons for openbox on this theme. |
| 05:43.23 | dli | Frem: no, memory is quite universal |
| 05:43.29 | dli | Frem: it's pc/66 |
| 05:43.33 | Frem | dli: cool. |
| 05:43.44 | dli | Frem: I can mail you 64 MB for free |
| 05:43.46 | deadcat | meff: xterm. that bottom left is root-tail |
| 05:44.03 | deadcat | meff: you can make conky to tail logfiles but i dont like it so i am sticking with root-tail |
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| 05:44.26 | meff | deadcat: nono on the bottom of your terms, what is that? it has 1-bash 2-bash etc |
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| 05:44.36 | deadcat | meff: oh. screen (= |
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| 05:44.47 | darkness_ | Is deadcat greycat having a bad day :-) |
| 05:44.50 | deadcat | meff: that shows my bat life and wlan status. hehe |
| 05:44.59 | meff | screen can do that? :o |
| 05:45.11 | Frem | dli: why? I mean, why do you want to ship it to me for free? |
| 05:45.17 | deadcat | darkness_: [ "deadcat" = "greycat" ] && echo yes || echo no |
| 05:45.30 | darkness_ | meff: I have a shell account and can use screen.What exactly are the advantages of screen please? |
| 05:45.33 | deadcat | meff: oh ya.. like i said many times. screen is the best app. EVER! |
| 05:45.51 | dli | Frem: hehe, I gave out 128 MB for free, and I know that person would replace his 64 MB with it |
| 05:46.02 | deadcat | darkness_: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/screen/ |
| 05:46.10 | meff | deadcat: dude.. you have your configs somewhere? i'd love to look through your setup.. it is very nice looking |
| 05:46.14 | darkness_ | tks deadcat. |
| 05:46.16 | dli | Frem: I can ask for the 64 MB, and mail it to you |
| 05:46.18 | amphi | darkness_: you can have multiple terminals, and you can log out and leave programs running, and reattach later, for example |
| 05:46.26 | deadcat | meff: ya. i have some available. |
| 05:46.34 | dli | Frem: it would be IBM branded PC/66 |
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| 05:47.17 | meff | deadcat: would you mind pointing me there or taring it up or something? |
| 05:47.18 | dli | Frem: I once mailed out two AthlonMP processors for free |
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| 05:47.31 | Frem | dli: nah. thanks for the offer, but I'm not really comfortable with giving random strangers in chat rooms my mailing address. ;-) |
| 05:47.31 | deadcat | meff: deadcat.sshonly.sytes.net |
| 05:47.32 | dli | Frem: and later, that person complained |
| 05:47.46 | dli | Frem: you don't have to |
| 05:48.16 | meff | deadcat: it wants me to login to see dotfiles? :x |
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| 05:48.26 | deadcat | meff: you can use asdf asdf i guess. |
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| 05:48.36 | Frem | dli: thanks for the offer, though. |
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| 05:48.37 | xoz | deadcat: what's the app for those transparent system resources? |
| 05:48.51 | deadcat | xoz: conky |
| 05:48.54 | dli | Frem: that person had to spend to buy for mobo, hdd, ram, case, and found out athlonMP is very noisy, a dual processor, but he simply didn't need it |
| 05:48.55 | meff | deadcat: thanks |
| 05:49.28 | deadcat | meff: my .bash_prompt is there. hehe |
| 05:49.29 | xfoxx | i heard transparent =P, transparent what?? |
| 05:49.37 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 05:49.54 | deadcat | xfoxx: no. its just an app running on the root window |
| 05:50.05 | xfoxx | mm can i see?? |
| 05:50.18 | xoz | !whisper xfoxx |
| 05:50.19 | dpkg | xfoxx, targzip your mouth, please. |
| 05:50.35 | deadcat | xfoxx: /lastlog deadcat |
| 05:50.48 | xfoxx | sorry tar not found in bash |
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| 05:51.16 | Frem | is xfoxx *still* messing around with ktorrent? |
| 05:51.32 | xfoxx | nah just reinstalled it |
| 05:51.38 | xfoxx | and deleted it as easy as that |
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| 05:51.45 | xfoxx | and it worked... |
| 05:51.49 | Frem | lol |
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| 05:52.59 | Frem | I asked like an hour ago, but does anyone know how to change the dpi of xfree86? |
| 05:53.05 | amphi | Frem: ye |
| 05:53.09 | amphi | Frem: er, yes |
| 05:53.17 | ke6isf | !drxx Frem |
| 05:53.18 | dpkg | Frem: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 05:53.41 | deadcat | Frem: just remove the dpi fonts you dont want from the list |
| 05:53.43 | amphi | Frem: /etc/xinit/xserverrc |
| 05:53.53 | Frem | amphi: thanks |
| 05:53.57 | xfoxx | eehh deadcat, is that a duck on water that you got there?? |
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| 05:54.05 | deadcat | xfoxx: wmbubble |
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| 05:54.25 | xfoxx | oohhh nice |
| 05:54.57 | deadcat | xfoxx: ya. i fell in love with those few wm apps that i am still using them even though conky and other apps can do all those |
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| 05:55.31 | Horde | hey, can anyone give me a hand getting my box connected to the internet? |
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| 05:55.44 | ke6isf | Horde: What seems to be the problem? |
| 05:55.52 | dpower | horde: lol |
| 05:55.58 | xfoxx | wow deadcat, conky is the name??, i just wanna get my system stats i ndesktop like you did it seems so cool =) |
| 05:56.04 | dli | Horde: by DSL, cable, or LAN? |
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| 05:56.14 | dpower | it should auto configure |
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| 05:56.25 | xfoxx | maybe he got ADSL, and do not detect DHCP |
| 05:56.28 | cddesjar | i can't seem to get my printer working on cups |
| 05:56.30 | Horde | lan, and it hasn't |
| 05:56.31 | cddesjar | i have the write driver |
| 05:56.32 | deadcat | xfoxx: ya. conky is the text sys info thing |
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| 05:56.35 | cddesjar | but it won't print a test page |
| 05:56.39 | cddesjar | maybe i'm missing a package? |
| 05:56.45 | amphi | cddesjar: neither could esr, if that's any consolation |
| 05:56.54 | dpower | so give it a static ip...put in gateway etc.. |
| 05:56.58 | cddesjar | i installed cupsys |
| 05:57.06 | cddesjar | do i need anything else? |
| 05:57.06 | xfoxx | deadcat, =) what KDE does it requier?? |
| 05:57.08 | ke6isf | Horde: Does your lan employ dhcp? |
| 05:57.09 | amphi | Horde: man 5 interfaces |
| 05:57.10 | deadcat | cddesjar: cupsys-client or cupsys-bsd ? |
| 05:57.15 | cddesjar | just cupsys |
| 05:57.19 | deadcat | xfoxx: mother fuck KDE (= |
| 05:57.32 | xfoxx | deadcat, i wanna get one of those Kde =) |
| 05:57.33 | dpower | its better than gnome |
| 05:57.36 | cddesjar | that might do it |
| 05:57.37 | Horde | ke6isf uhm yeah i think it does |
| 05:57.48 | dli | Horde: what if you run "ifconfig eth0" |
| 05:57.56 | deadcat | xfoxx: then i dont know. conky runs on all window/desktop managers i think |
| 05:58.00 | amphi | Horde: in that case, try dhclient eth0 as root |
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| 05:58.22 | xfoxx | okey i shall now get that conky, is it an apt-get aplication or do i have to google for it? |
| 05:58.46 | deadcat | xfoxx: in sid as far as i can tell |
| 05:58.48 | amphi | xfoxx: the moaning goat meter is the best system monitor IMHO - linuxmafia.com/mgm |
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| 05:59.07 | deadcat | amphi: that thing is ugly. (= |
| 05:59.26 | xfoxx | hehehehe |
| 05:59.29 | xfoxx | !sid |
| 05:59.29 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 05:59.39 | amphi | xfoxx: " MGM, the Moaning Goat Meter, is the ultimate sixty-ton cast iron lawn ornament for the desktops of today's hacker set" ;) |
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| 06:00.02 | xfoxx | amphi, MGM?? |
| 06:00.09 | amphi | yup |
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| 06:00.13 | xfoxx | hhhmmm |
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| 06:00.24 | xfoxx | let me check for it |
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| 06:00.26 | amphi | deadcat: it is indeed |
| 06:00.37 | deadcat | amphi: who wrong it? |
| 06:00.41 | xfoxx | is MGM ugly?' |
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| 06:00.53 | amphi | xfoxx: have a look - I gave you the urk |
| 06:00.54 | dpower | dhclient eth0...what does that command do exactly? |
| 06:01.01 | amphi | xfoxx: er, url |
| 06:01.21 | amphi | dpower: attempts to configure the interface via dhcp |
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| 06:01.40 | amphi | deadcat: one of the vorbis wallahs |
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| 06:01.44 | dpower | hmm i ran it and cant connect now |
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| 06:01.58 | xfoxx | amphi, where is the url?? |
| 06:02.23 | xfoxx | ahh okey found it |
| 06:02.26 | amphi | xfoxx: http://linuxmafia.com/mgm/ |
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| 06:03.05 | amphi | xfoxx: it used to be on xiph.org, but perhaps they were embarrassed... |
| 06:03.16 | xfoxx | ehh amphi, it looks so wierd... |
| 06:03.29 | xfoxx | are you sure that hackers use this (o_O) |
| 06:04.14 | amphi | xfoxx: definitely, all of them |
| 06:04.24 | xfoxx | (o_o) |
| 06:04.42 | xfoxx | they shoudl check themself...., reallly .... |
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| 06:05.04 | amphi | xfoxx: you have a problem with perl/gtk? |
| 06:05.28 | xfoxx | ehh nope, but.... i like the stats that display |
| 06:05.44 | xfoxx | but the look like =S is kinda wierd |
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| 06:05.56 | amphi | xfoxx: 'wierd'? |
| 06:06.23 | xfoxx | lets say it is mmm..., a windows 98 look.... |
| 06:07.04 | xfoxx | but ill try it |
| 06:07.42 | amphi | xfoxx: it is quite old... but then so is Lesbian Gnu/Linux |
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| 06:08.20 | xfoxx | lol Lesbian XD |
| 06:08.27 | xfoxx | do that exist?? lol |
| 06:08.28 | amphi | xfoxx: lesbian.mine.nu |
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| 06:09.37 | xoz | deadcat: what's the mpd in conky? |
| 06:09.41 | xfoxx | omg this isnt a joke... |
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| 06:10.13 | deadcat | xoz: mpdonkey. i dont know what that is. p2p shit maybe |
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| 06:10.50 | deadcat | xoz: didnt we ask you for a openbox screenshot? |
| 06:11.35 | xoz | deadcat: nope :) |
| 06:11.39 | deadcat | (= |
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| 06:11.53 | deadcat | xoz: screenshot me then. hehe |
| 06:12.47 | xfoxx | holly cow i am so proud of being lesbiano =p |
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| 06:15.42 | xfan | what is "lesbiano" ? |
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| 06:16.37 | xoz | deadcat: still beautifying it. |
| 06:16.43 | xfoxx | lol it is a sacast way to say heterosexual =P |
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| 06:16.56 | xfan | xd |
| 06:17.28 | xfan | thats in spanish ? |
| 06:17.28 | darkcmd | anyone in here have any icewm screenshots under debian |
| 06:17.34 | deadcat | xoz: cant wait (=. i am a screenshot whore |
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| 06:17.58 | deadcat | darkcmd: you cant tell the diff if its under debian or any distro |
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| 06:18.12 | Miesco | What do I use to see videos? |
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| 06:18.21 | deadcat | Miesco: mplayer or xine |
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| 06:18.37 | xfan | darkcmd : http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=es&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aes-AR%3Aunofficial&q=icewm+debian&btnG=B%C3%BAsqueda |
| 06:18.38 | darkcmd | yeah, but i'd prefer it being used by a debian user :) |
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| 06:19.00 | Miesco | deadcat: Isn't mplayer not GUI? |
| 06:19.07 | deadcat | Miesco: gmplayer |
| 06:19.17 | Miesco | deadcat: Is there a package for that? |
| 06:19.19 | streuner | heh |
| 06:19.22 | amphi | Miesco: it has a horrid gui - works like a charm from cmd line |
| 06:19.32 | deadcat | !tell Miesco about marillat |
| 06:19.33 | spdf | Miesco, Marillat |
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| 06:19.55 | xfoxx | how can i upgrade my Kde 3.3 to 3.4?? |
| 06:19.55 | Miesco | So I should use mplayer just from the command line? |
| 06:19.58 | streuner | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2005-04-18 08:49 /usr/bin/gmplayer -> mplayer |
| 06:20.10 | streuner | gmplayer is just a symlink |
| 06:20.38 | amphi | Miesco: if you like - it's not hard: mplayer dvd:// or whatever |
| 06:21.00 | deadcat | amphi: more like mplayer porn.avi |
| 06:21.03 | Miesco | What about a wvm file or whatever |
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| 06:21.13 | Miesco | deadcat: NO, sicko |
| 06:21.18 | xinming | hmm, anyone here use testing? |
| 06:21.20 | deadcat | sure buddy |
| 06:21.23 | spdf | Miesco, Install the w32codecs |
| 06:21.26 | deadcat | xinming: no one. |
| 06:21.37 | amphi | Miesco: install the w32codecs package for such abominations |
| 06:21.46 | Licker | is there a way to have Debian backup databases on a nightly basis? |
| 06:21.46 | Miesco | deadcat: I want to see a video of pepe romero (A classical guitarist) |
| 06:21.49 | xinming | I can't run window managers... |
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| 06:22.08 | Miesco | deadcat: http://www.guitarreriabsas.com.ar/partituras/www.guitarreriabsas.com.ar_Celedonio_Romero_Fantasia_Pepe_Romero.wmv |
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| 06:22.12 | deadcat | xinming: hows that a testing fault? |
| 06:22.17 | deadcat | Miesco: mplayer URL |
| 06:22.18 | P8ntKid | Is there a diferent program/script that will lock my screen like the xserver thing does? |
| 06:22.19 | Miesco | w32codecs? |
| 06:22.28 | amphi | Miesco: mplayer will play just about anything |
| 06:22.30 | amphi | Miesco: yes |
| 06:22.33 | deadcat | P8ntKid: xlockmore, lightweight |
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| 06:22.46 | Miesco | What is w32codecs? |
| 06:23.01 | Guerin | Miesco: it's what you need |
| 06:23.05 | darkcmd | what do you guys think some good gtk2 themes are in some dark environments? |
| 06:23.15 | xinming | deadcat: because It stoped working after I do apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 06:23.22 | P8ntKid | deadcat: Which one should I use? |
| 06:23.24 | streuner | Miesco: different codecs similar to the 'essential package |
| 06:23.26 | amphi | Miesco: "This package contain video codecs for popular proprietary formats" |
| 06:23.34 | Guerin | darkcmd: no such thing as a good gtk2 theme |
| 06:23.35 | amphi | Miesco: apt-cache show w32codecs |
| 06:23.41 | deadcat | P8ntKid: lightweight mean the package is lightweight |
| 06:23.41 | xinming | deadcat: and, It's working always. Even if I do upgrades. |
| 06:23.44 | streuner | Miesco: .. of mplayer website, but packaged as deb |
| 06:23.45 | darkcmd | Guerin, why would you say that? |
| 06:23.47 | Miesco | I think I need something cause the video all messed up |
| 06:23.53 | Guerin | darkcmd: because it's the truth? |
| 06:23.54 | deadcat | xinming: no clue. |
| 06:24.06 | Miesco | Does gmplayer come with mplayer-386? |
| 06:24.06 | darkcmd | so you are saying qt is the way to go? |
| 06:24.14 | deadcat | xinming: maybe xorg or your windowmanager broke |
| 06:24.14 | Guerin | darkcmd: nope. |
| 06:24.21 | darkcmd | then what toolkit? |
| 06:24.23 | streuner | Miesco: gmplayer is a symlink |
| 06:24.24 | deadcat | Miesco: just install it and find out. |
| 06:24.29 | Miesco | I did |
| 06:24.30 | Guerin | darkcmd: I prefer curses |
| 06:24.31 | P8ntKid | deadcat: Oh, haha. |
| 06:24.36 | deadcat | P8ntKid: (= |
| 06:24.44 | Miesco | gmplayer gives me error, mplayer doesn't |
| 06:24.55 | P8ntKid | deadcat: Well, is there one that like doesnt start a screensaver? It just locks the screen where its at? |
| 06:24.58 | Guerin | mplayer is offtopic in #debian |
| 06:25.01 | darkcmd | P8ntKid, you that DPB guy? |
| 06:25.09 | deadcat | P8ntKid: i like xlockmore because its smaller than the other one. and it has a crappy matrix theme. although i like the blank theme though |
| 06:25.18 | amphi | Miesco: gmplayer is awful IMHO; if you need gui, try xine or vlc perhas |
| 06:25.25 | P8ntKid | darkcmd: Yes. |
| 06:25.28 | deadcat | P8ntKid: ya. xlock which is xlockmore |
| 06:25.28 | xfoxx | whats IMHO?? |
| 06:25.30 | darkcmd | hehe :) |
| 06:25.31 | Miesco | gmplayer: FONT_FACE failed |
| 06:25.40 | Miesco | amphi: Okay |
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| 06:25.48 | Licker | humm.. I have my network setup on a router but cant figure out how to allow SSH on it. (web server) I set it to have a static IP. The internet works and hosting etc. just not SSH can someone help? |
| 06:25.48 | Miesco | So I should install mplayer-nogui? |
| 06:25.49 | mwilson | Hm... finally something useful from DP |
| 06:26.16 | amphi | xfoxx: 'in my humble opinion' |
| 06:26.26 | xfoxx | amphi, amm okey |
| 06:26.27 | deadcat | what is dp? i want some grape drink baby! |
| 06:26.34 | Guerin | Licker: apt-get install ssh |
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| 06:26.37 | mwilson | DP == Debian Planet |
| 06:26.40 | amphi | xfoxx: install wtf (bsdgames) |
| 06:26.40 | deadcat | o |
| 06:26.46 | P8ntKid | deadcat: I can't seem to find a mirror for it though ;( |
| 06:26.49 | mwilson | Also == DD ego fest |
| 06:26.52 | xfoxx | amphi, what ?? |
| 06:27.06 | ice_1963 | hello |
| 06:27.10 | xfoxx | hellos |
| 06:27.20 | amphi | xfoxx: "wtf - translates acronyms for you" wtf(6) |
| 06:27.28 | P8ntKid | deadcat: nvm, xlockmore is in my apt repos |
| 06:27.37 | mwilson | 99.9% of blogs aren't worth cr*p, of course. |
| 06:27.48 | Miesco | oooo pretty, thank you |
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| 06:27.59 | amphi | Miesco: ? |
| 06:28.05 | spdf | Licker, Have you forwarded port 22 properly? |
| 06:28.08 | Miesco | amphi: It works |
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| 06:28.15 | amphi | Miesco: what does? |
| 06:28.52 | Miesco | amphi: mplayer |
| 06:29.01 | Miesco | amphi: It worked after I got that codecs thing |
| 06:29.11 | amphi | Miesco: ah... |
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| 06:29.25 | Licker | yes spdf |
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| 06:29.44 | brosioz | how could i mount automactly my dvd and usbmemory ? |
| 06:29.51 | P8ntKid | deadcat: Is there a way i can make it so it doesnt start a screensaver? So that it just freezes my desktop untill i move my mouse? |
| 06:30.14 | xfoxx | amphi, apt-get install bsdgames?? |
| 06:30.18 | deadcat | P8ntKid: it doesnt, it locks when you type xlock. thats it. |
| 06:30.24 | amphi | xfoxx: yes |
| 06:30.37 | xfoxx | okey |
| 06:30.41 | P8ntKid | deadcat: When i type xlock, it starts a screensaver untill i move my mouse.. |
| 06:30.53 | deadcat | P8ntKid: xlock -mode blank |
| 06:31.04 | amphi | xfoxx: then try 'wtf is IMHO' (the 'is' is syntactic sugar) |
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| 06:31.57 | P8ntKid | deadcat: That starts a black screen. It be cool if it just locks my screen how it is untill i move my mouse. |
| 06:32.09 | dj_ryan | question |
| 06:32.19 | dj_ryan | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 06:32.21 | deadcat | P8ntKid: xlock is not that fancy |
| 06:32.22 | dj_ryan | wtf?! |
| 06:32.36 | liable | !e2fsprogs |
| 06:32.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, e2fsprogs is http://bugs.debian.org/325834 |
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| 06:32.47 | xfoxx | amphi, how do i use the package already installed it now how do i invoke it?? |
| 06:32.48 | P8ntKid | Oh. |
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| 06:32.55 | dj_ryan | long time debian user, first time ircer |
| 06:32.56 | P8ntKid | deadcat: Well is there anything else i could use? |
| 06:33.00 | Miesco | Whats a good skin for xine? |
| 06:33.07 | spdf | Licker, I nmap'd you, and you had port 20/21/23/80/etc open, but no 22... |
| 06:33.08 | deadcat | P8ntKid: xscreensaver |
| 06:33.19 | spdf | Miesco, Pick which one -you- like.. |
| 06:33.19 | deadcat | Miesco: default |
| 06:33.27 | amphi | xfoxx: just type 'wtf is IMHO' in a shell, without the quotes |
| 06:33.44 | xfoxx | oh lol |
| 06:33.50 | deadcat | Miesco: people dont care how xine look. they just care about the quality of the video clip |
| 06:34.06 | dj_ryan | so no solution on the e2fsprogs problem then. |
| 06:34.11 | Licker | spdf: how did u do that? |
| 06:34.22 | amphi | xfoxx: man wtf for more info |
| 06:34.27 | spdf | Licker, nmap is a port scanner |
| 06:34.28 | Miesco | deadcat: Well the default one is messed up because when I drag the window from the top, I cant |
| 06:34.33 | deadcat | whois opensource.geek.nz? |
| 06:34.38 | Licker | spdf: how do I use it? |
| 06:34.45 | spdf | Licker, apt-get install nmap |
| 06:34.46 | deadcat | Miesco: config it |
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| 06:35.04 | spdf | Licker, then 'nmap <IP or URL>' |
| 06:35.10 | Miesco | Does mplayer have good quality? |
| 06:35.22 | deadcat | Miesco: why dont you test them out |
| 06:35.35 | dj_ryan | oh man, i upgrade this debian box from hamm or bo and i dont really want to reinstall it from scratch - its been like 9 years now |
| 06:35.49 | deadcat | dj_ryan: just? HAHAHHA |
| 06:35.56 | spdf | Wow. |
| 06:36.06 | dj_ryan | heh |
| 06:36.15 | Licker | ok installed |
| 06:36.17 | pacman | dj_ryan, scroll back and look again. Someone did give you a reference to read about the e2fsprogs problem. |
| 06:36.20 | dj_ryan | i installed it on a pentium p100 and its been upgraded over time. |
| 06:36.23 | Miesco | deadcat: Okay, hey, what kind of program would I use to play my music? |
| 06:36.39 | P8ntKid | deadcat: That cant do it. Well, i dont think it can. |
| 06:36.41 | dj_ryan | pacman: yes i did, but the bug list doesnt seem to offer a solution |
| 06:36.45 | xfoxx | Mies, xmms |
| 06:36.46 | spdf | Licker, okay, try 'nmap 207.192.205.50' |
| 06:36.49 | deadcat | Miesco: mplayer, xine, xmms, i dont know what theme. just use default. just test. |
| 06:36.49 | ice_1963 | 9 years ok :0) |
| 06:36.58 | xfoxx | Miesco, mmx, noatun |
| 06:36.59 | deadcat | Miesco: that answer your next 2-3 quetsions |
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| 06:37.12 | xfoxx | lol deadcat |
| 06:37.17 | deadcat | P8ntKid: i think it has 1 theme that does it |
| 06:37.19 | dj_ryan | i've upgraded libc from libc5, glibc, glibc2 and glibc3 |
| 06:37.30 | deadcat | xfoxx: no shit. he keeps asking predictable questions. |
| 06:37.31 | P8ntKid | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.35 | Licker | it just says starting it then goes down one line and sits |
| 06:37.37 | mwilson | dj_ryan: Unlikely. |
| 06:37.37 | dj_ryan | i installed my box before apt-get was available :-) |
| 06:37.51 | deadcat | P8ntKid: no clue. i dont use xscreensaver. only used it fo rthe 2 matrix theme (= |
| 06:38.00 | xfoxx | deadcat, well we where and are noobs =) we need to see our own stupidness someday by doing stupid questions =) |
| 06:38.31 | Miesco | xfoxx: mmx? |
| 06:38.42 | xfoxx | !xmms |
| 06:38.42 | dpkg | somebody said xmms was X MultiMedia System. Obtain it from http://www.xmms.org/, or screwed up because it renices to -3 automatically on debian woody, and you can't de-automate it. |
| 06:38.52 | Licker | spdf: its not working |
| 06:38.58 | Licker | try again tell me if it works at all |
| 06:39.00 | Miesco | Okay xmms |
| 06:39.02 | spdf | Licker, define not working? |
| 06:39.05 | xfoxx | Miesco, apt get install xmms |
| 06:39.11 | mango | hi...I accedently changes the owner of "/" root layer and its subdirectories recursively for a user-name...then deleted that user... the system behaved in a abormal way....when I realized that I changed the ownership of all "/" and its subdirectories to root-user...it is working better now, however , I can not su form the shell if I logged on as a normal user message received "su: Authentication failure........ Sorry.", but when I log fron the terminal it work |
| 06:39.22 | mango | thank you |
| 06:39.30 | Miesco | I tried all them, but I have trouble loading playlists with xmms |
| 06:39.42 | spdf | Licker, try 'nmap localhost' (without the quotes) |
| 06:39.45 | xfoxx | Miesco, i recommend Noatun player casue it support mix of sounds =) |
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| 06:40.02 | spdf | Licker, Also, are you sure the ssh daemon is running? |
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| 06:40.27 | Licker | that worked |
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| 06:40.49 | xfoxx | Miesco, what kind of problem?? |
| 06:40.55 | mwilson | noatun requires KDE, doesn't it? |
| 06:41.07 | FliesLikeABrick | what kernel would i want (386, 686 etc) for an AMD Duron? |
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| 06:41.11 | Miesco | xfoxx, I want to click on the playlist and have it open xmms |
| 06:41.16 | Miesco | with the playlist loaded |
| 06:41.25 | xfoxx | mwilson, well it requer a desktop dont know if an especific one |
| 06:41.38 | streuner | FliesLikeABrick: /msg dpkg k7 |
| 06:41.41 | ice_1963 | k7 |
| 06:41.47 | Licker | spdf: http://paste.uni.cc/7870 |
| 06:41.53 | Guerin | Miesco: refer to your filemanager's documentation to see how doable this is |
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| 06:42.02 | xfoxx | Miesco, i think you need to add the music to theplay list with the add buttom |
| 06:42.07 | FliesLikeABrick | thats what i thought streuner thanks |
| 06:42.19 | Miesco | xfoxx: I got a playlist all ready |
| 06:42.35 | xfoxx | Miesco, you got the play list file or the file to add at playlist?? |
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| 06:42.50 | spdf | Licker, Okay, so, all you need to do now is login to your router, and make sure you've forwarded port 22... |
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| 06:43.07 | Miesco | xfoxx, the playlist file |
| 06:43.08 | Guerin | xfoxx: you are probably the last person who should be helping people in here. |
| 06:43.21 | syntaxx | I'm having trouble mounting my Floppy |
| 06:43.27 | spdf | Unless he wants to help my making me a sandwich... |
| 06:43.33 | xfoxx | Guerin, i am not a super users like you and some others in here, but i help with what i can =) |
| 06:43.35 | syntaxx | everytime I try it says Filesystem Unspecified |
| 06:43.42 | Guerin | spdf: i wouldn't trust him with that either |
| 06:43.47 | syntaxx | anyone got any ideas? |
| 06:43.48 | xfoxx | Miesco, then what you trying to do load the playlist?? |
| 06:43.51 | Guerin | spdf: specify the filename |
| 06:43.53 | Guerin | err |
| 06:43.58 | Guerin | filesystem |
| 06:44.19 | Guerin | xfoxx: as he explains, he want to click on a playlist and have it open in xmms |
| 06:44.20 | syntaxx | Yes, filesystem. |
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| 06:44.28 | spdf | syntaxx, Was the diskette formatted in windows or linux? |
| 06:44.34 | Guerin | syntaxx: it's unspecified. so specify it. |
| 06:44.37 | Miesco | xfoxx, yes |
| 06:44.41 | mango | I can not "use" su from the xwindows or use any of the application with root password, but I can login as root forn the terminal...I am running debian3.1...help please! |
| 06:44.48 | pacman | Guerin: Who's on first? |
| 06:44.51 | syntaxx | Guerin, How?? |
| 06:45.01 | Guerin | pacman: eh? |
| 06:45.03 | spdf | syntaxx, -t [FILESYSTEM TYPE] |
| 06:45.04 | amphi | mango: install sudo |
| 06:45.10 | Guerin | mango: what happend when you run su in a shell? |
| 06:45.22 | xfoxx | Miesco when you open thge playlist window there is a loittle buttom in the right bottom |
| 06:45.28 | xfoxx | Miesco, it says load list |
| 06:45.54 | Miesco | Okay |
| 06:46.29 | Miesco | It doesn't work in KDE when I right click the m3u file, then go to, open with XMMS, it just messes up |
| 06:46.36 | syntaxx | spdf, what do I put for the type tho? |
| 06:46.39 | Guerin | !doesn't work |
| 06:46.40 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 06:46.43 | amphi | Miesco: look at man xmms, there's probably a command line option to load and play a playlist; configure your file manager to use that when you click on a playlist |
| 06:46.50 | Guerin | Miesco: talk to #kde or #debian-kde |
| 06:47.08 | mango | Gueri:It asks for the passwd...than an error message with this output comes-up "su: Authentication failure.....Sorry." |
| 06:47.23 | Guerin | mango: before or after you enter a password? |
| 06:48.23 | Licker | is there another way to conect to the server other than SSH or TelNet? |
| 06:48.30 | mango | Guerin: After you put the passwd, by the way sudo is installed |
| 06:48.39 | deadcat | Licker: what server? |
| 06:48.47 | Guerin | mango: and you're 100% certain you're entering the corect password? |
| 06:48.54 | Licker | web |
| 06:48.57 | Guerin | Licker: ssh works. Don't use telnet, ever. |
| 06:49.02 | deadcat | Licker: links, wget, nc |
| 06:49.09 | Guerin | Licker: what happens when you try to login? |
| 06:49.14 | Licker | well neither will work through my server |
| 06:49.19 | spdf | syntaxx, Do you know on which operating system the diskette was formatted? |
| 06:49.22 | Licker | connection refuesed |
| 06:49.29 | Guerin | !connection refused |
| 06:49.30 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 06:49.30 | Miesco | Guerin: But then you have to download a SSH client |
| 06:49.32 | mango | Guerin: I can still access root from the terminal with the same passwd |
| 06:49.41 | syntaxx | spdf, no, I'm formatting it now |
| 06:50.05 | Guerin | Licker: you're not running a sshd on that port on that machine |
| 06:50.10 | dli | Licker, connection refused in "ssh"? |
| 06:50.12 | Guerin | Licker: if you think you are, you're wrong |
| 06:50.33 | Licker | i even ran a nmap and it says its open telnet wont even connect. |
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| 06:50.42 | Guerin | mango: ok. What does /var/log/auth.log say? |
| 06:50.44 | syntaxx | spdf, i got it working i just had to format the disk |
| 06:51.02 | Guerin | Licker: stop the sshd and nmap again |
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| 06:51.09 | dli | Guerin, can you restart your sshd daemon? "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" |
| 06:51.17 | Licker | command to stop? |
| 06:51.21 | Guerin | dli: i am not the one with the problem here. |
| 06:51.21 | Miesco | If its not again any channel rules, anyone know a sharing program that doesn't support porn at all |
| 06:51.29 | Licker | ohh. found out its just a buggy router |
| 06:51.30 | Licker | :/ |
| 06:51.32 | Guerin | Licker: /etc/init.d/ssh stop |
| 06:51.41 | Guerin | Licker: as I told you. |
| 06:51.49 | amphi | Miesco: how could that work? |
| 06:51.50 | deadcat | Miesco: no. |
| 06:51.55 | Licker | as u what? |
| 06:51.57 | dli | Guerin, it's quite common, sometimes, sshd refuses connections, after upgrading without restarting sshd |
| 06:52.06 | Guerin | Miesco: how would a program know what's porn and what's not? Even the US Supreme Court can't tell you that. |
| 06:52.31 | Guerin | dli: since the upgrade process should restart the sshd, I doubt it. I certainly haven't ever come across that. |
| 06:52.38 | deadcat | Guerin: its porn if you laugh at it ( |
| 06:52.40 | deadcat | (= |
| 06:52.55 | dli | Guerin, there are some programs to give you a good guess about whether a picture is porn |
| 06:53.09 | Guerin | dli: i very much doubt it's a 'good' guess. |
| 06:53.19 | deadcat | more like random guess |
| 06:53.48 | Miesco | Well I just dont want stuff that has XXX pr0N stuff in my searches |
| 06:53.51 | dli | Guerin, I remember quite good, just like terrorist catching cameras in airports |
| 06:54.01 | amphi | dli: pink-pixel count? bah |
| 06:54.02 | Guerin | Miesco: so don't search anywhere you suspect to have xxx |
| 06:54.03 | Miesco | By support, I mean, doesn't have a section to search for porn |
| 06:54.08 | deadcat | Miesco: you mean you DONT want to share your pron right? |
| 06:54.16 | streuner | haha |
| 06:54.20 | Miesco | deadcat: No, I dont have any |
| 06:54.21 | dli | amphi: then, it's race dependent? |
| 06:54.33 | deadcat | streuner: (= |
| 06:54.38 | Miesco | Guerin: Thats the problem, I might get tempted |
| 06:54.42 | amphi | dli: from what little I heard about that particular idiocy |
| 06:54.42 | pacman | doesn't matter what you're searching for, the porn spammers will find a way to infiltrate the search results with their promotional material |
| 06:54.45 | Guerin | dli: oh really. How does it know what the viewer sconsiders to be pornographic? Does it block stockinged feet? People dressed like badgers? |
| 06:54.49 | dli | Miesco, share them in freenet, I'm interested now |
| 06:54.56 | deadcat | Miesco: squiz your balls if you get tempted. |
| 06:55.02 | Guerin | Miesco: I'm sorry, technology can't help you with your self-control problems. |
| 06:55.05 | Miesco | deadcat: Okay, i'll try that |
| 06:55.23 | Miesco | Okay, well about about any file sharing software? |
| 06:55.23 | Guerin | Miesco: every time you feel the urge to look at porn, hit your thumb with a hammer |
| 06:55.24 | deadcat | or slap it... |
| 06:55.33 | deadcat | oh wait. that only encourage it.. oops |
| 06:55.39 | spdf | Miesco, giFT works well enough |
| 06:55.43 | Miesco | Guerin: Does it really work? |
| 06:55.44 | dli | Guerin, I mean a good guess, not really an error-proof judgement |
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| 06:55.58 | Guerin | Miesco: i reckon it would. |
| 06:56.00 | spdf | Yah.. Give'r a good spankin'... :-O |
| 06:56.02 | deadcat | Miesco: christian? |
| 06:56.05 | Miesco | See with, edonkey, half of the serves have the word porn in them |
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| 06:56.11 | Miesco | deadcat: Yes |
| 06:56.15 | deadcat | ah |
| 06:56.18 | Guerin | dli: that's the point: there's no such thing as a good guess when it comes to human sexuality. |
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| 06:56.36 | spdf | Bah, You're going to hell anyway for a number of things you didn't know you did.. |
| 06:56.44 | amphi | Miesco: it's only a word, you don't have to d/l it |
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| 06:56.57 | dli | Guerin, education counts |
| 06:57.19 | deadcat | Miesco: maybe you should ask "WWJD" (= |
| 06:57.28 | Miesco | WWJD? |
| 06:57.32 | Guerin | Miesco: if you're christian and that's your reason for avoiding porn, you've already failed by needing to resort to technical means to quell an impure urge. The change must come from inside you. now go flagellate yourself. |
| 06:57.35 | spdf | !wwjd |
| 06:57.35 | dpkg | well, wwjd is Who Wants Jack Daniel's? Or "WWJD? JWRTFM!" |
| 06:57.39 | spdf | I DO! |
| 06:57.39 | Guerin | !wwbfd |
| 06:57.44 | dli | Miesco, if you happen to have some good porno, share in freenet, so I can have a look :) |
| 06:57.45 | Guerin | bah |
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| 06:57.53 | deadcat | what would jesus do stupid bot! |
| 06:57.55 | Guerin | !wwbfd is What Would Boba Fett Do? |
| 06:57.56 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 06:58.06 | dli | Miesco, no cp, or homo, thanks :) |
| 06:58.17 | Miesco | dli: I know where to get some good porn |
| 06:58.24 | spdf | !wwjdfakb is What Would Jesus Do For A Klondike Bar? |
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| 06:58.26 | dpkg | spdf: okay |
| 06:58.30 | Miesco | Its really naughty though |
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| 06:58.47 | amphi | Miesco: http://127.0.0.1 ? |
| 06:58.53 | dli | Miesco, hehe, asian also? |
| 06:58.53 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 06:58.56 | Guerin | Miesco: this is not a porn sharing forum. |
| 06:59.07 | Miesco | amphi: NO |
| 06:59.11 | bucky | why isn't there 700 people in the channel tonight? |
| 06:59.15 | streuner | we should talk about something else... |
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| 06:59.27 | Miesco | streuner: Thank you |
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| 06:59.33 | Guerin | streuner: how about them german elections |
| 06:59.36 | deadcat | streuner: ya.. last week, me and bob was watching the game right..?? |
| 06:59.37 | Miesco | I will see how gift works |
| 06:59.39 | streuner | bucky: attack (freenode) |
| 06:59.41 | bucky | i guess all the idlers got disconnected |
| 06:59.48 | brosioz | how could i purge all conf file of a packege that i've alredy remove ? |
| 06:59.49 | dli | okay, somebody mentioned "connection refused"? what's going on there? |
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| 06:59.58 | Guerin | brosioz: dpkg -P packagename |
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| 07:00.18 | Guerin | dli: /msg dpkg connection refused |
| 07:00.31 | streuner | Guerin: well, elections gave politicans in germany big headaches and they still need to find a solution to *SHARE* the power of love ;-) |
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| 07:00.32 | brosioz | Guerin, but why don't work with apt ? |
| 07:00.37 | Miesco | How do you open giFT? |
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| 07:00.50 | dli | brosioz, apt-get --purge remove |
| 07:00.55 | Guerin | streuner: aww, how sweet |
| 07:01.02 | brosioz | dli, not work |
| 07:01.08 | brosioz | only with dpkg |
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| 07:01.11 | brosioz | works |
| 07:01.12 | Guerin | streuner: we have a similar, though smaller, problem with NZ's elections, using the same system |
| 07:01.20 | Guerin | brosioz: you can do it with apt |
| 07:01.22 | brosioz | reboot |
| 07:01.38 | Guerin | Miesco: read the gift documentation, and install a gift client |
| 07:01.41 | brosioz | apt-get --purge remove hotplug |
| 07:01.41 | brosioz | Reading package lists... Done |
| 07:01.41 | brosioz | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 07:01.41 | brosioz | Package hotplug is not installed, so not removed |
| 07:01.41 | brosioz | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 07:01.41 | mango | Guerin: There are too many line on the /var/log/auth.log file....would you be interested in the last line? |
| 07:01.44 | dli | brosioz, I have silly solution, apt-get install foo;apt-get --purge --yes remove foo |
| 07:01.58 | Guerin | mango: i'm interested in the one which occurred when you tried to su |
| 07:02.20 | Guerin | mango: tail -f /var/log/auth.log in one console, then try su in another, see what comes up |
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| 07:02.34 | Guerin | dli: don't be stupid |
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| 07:02.40 | Guerin | and don't give bad advice |
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| 07:03.06 | xfoxx | wuua it will not work |
| 07:03.10 | dli | Guerin, he/she wants to purge for a removed package. What's your smart advice? |
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| 07:03.18 | Guerin | dli: i already gave it |
| 07:03.24 | deadcat | dpkg -S |
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| 07:03.31 | deadcat | -P i mean |
| 07:03.33 | Miesco | I installed the gift package |
| 07:03.35 | dli | Guerin, you said "dpkg -P" |
| 07:03.43 | Guerin | dli: which is 100% correct |
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| 07:03.57 | Guerin | dli: if you can point out any way in which it's not correct, I'm all ears. |
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| 07:04.13 | dli | Guerin, it's "--purge"? then, you get the package is not installed |
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| 07:04.22 | Guerin | dli: just try it and see. |
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| 07:04.31 | Guerin | Miesco: read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/gift |
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| 07:04.53 | dli | Guerin, not a big deal :( I only said mine silly solution, I knew it works |
| 07:04.53 | carrett | hey guys, there is write support for FAT32, right? i have vfat loaded, but when i try to change permissions it says "operation not permitted." even when i am root...clues? |
| 07:05.08 | Guerin | !tell carrett about vfatrw |
| 07:05.09 | pacman | vfat is not a real filesystem. It doesn't have permissions. |
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| 07:05.23 | Miesco | Guerin: aww, did I just download a server or something |
| 07:05.25 | dli | carrett, mount with uid |
| 07:05.27 | carrett | Guerin: does the vfat driver allow for write support though? |
| 07:05.30 | carrett | dli: thanks |
| 07:05.34 | amphi | carrett: yes |
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| 07:05.48 | Guerin | Miesco: a server is necessary to run gift. You run the server, and then you run a client which connects to the server. |
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| 07:05.56 | Guerin | carrett: yes. |
| 07:06.00 | carrett | thanks everyone |
| 07:06.32 | mango | Guerin: these are the last line I get when I try to log as root Oct 15 08:03:09 localhost unix_chkpwd[4807]: check pass; user unknown ....Oct 15 08:03:09 localhost su[4806]: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname=uid=1002 euid=1002 tty=pts/1 ruser=test rhost= user=rootOct 15 08:03:11 localhost su [4806]: pam_authenticate: Authentication failure....Oct 15 08:03:12 localhost su[4806]: - pts/1 test:root |
| 07:06.42 | mad_ogre | hi, do you know where I can change the default system mail spool directory? I tried changing MAIL_DIR in login.defs and it doesn't do a thing |
| 07:06.51 | Guerin | mango: any changes to pam? |
| 07:07.18 | deadcat | mad_ogre: what mta you using? |
| 07:07.21 | pacman | mad_ogre, first you'll have to tell the MTA to put the mail there... |
| 07:07.36 | mad_ogre | deadcat: i'm using exim4 |
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| 07:08.15 | mango | Guerin: sorry!...I don't know what is pam? |
| 07:08.28 | streuner | !pam |
| 07:08.28 | dpkg | methinks pam is the Pluggable Authentication Modules. Check http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ for more information. Linux-PAM SysAdmin's Guide is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html. PAM Always Malfunctions |
| 07:08.29 | liable | my aunty! |
| 07:08.31 | Guerin | mango: pam is the thing which su uses to check passwords |
| 07:08.43 | Guerin | mango: are you the admin and only person with root on this machine? |
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| 07:09.39 | mad_ogre | pacman: where which option do I set to tell the MTA to do that? |
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| 07:10.16 | dj_ryan | ok |
| 07:10.23 | dj_ryan | now that im upgrading to sarge first |
| 07:10.29 | mad_ogre | pacman: forget it, i found it |
| 07:10.33 | dj_ryan | apt-get install e2fsprogs says: |
| 07:10.33 | dj_ryan | You are about to do something potentially harmful |
| 07:10.34 | dj_ryan | To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' |
| 07:10.39 | dj_ryan | should i say the magic phrase? |
| 07:10.50 | streuner | no |
| 07:10.51 | deadcat | no |
| 07:10.55 | deadcat | else you be fucked |
| 07:11.01 | Guerin | dj_ryan: what precisely does it say? paste the whole error to a site |
| 07:11.03 | dj_ryan | ahh |
| 07:11.06 | Guerin | !paster dj_ryan |
| 07:11.06 | pacman | mango said earlier that he had hosed all the permissions on his system. I suspect his su has lost its setuid bit. But that's just the first of a few thousand problems he's going to have. |
| 07:11.10 | dpkg | dj_ryan: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 07:11.26 | Guerin | mango: nuke the whole shop and reinstall from scratch and backups |
| 07:11.40 | Guerin | pacman: that saves me several hours of work :) |
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| 07:12.03 | amorphix | hi |
| 07:12.18 | mango | Guerin: at this moment yes...but there are other users on this machine as well....I think I should tell you about this to make things easier...I accidently changed the ownership of "/" and it subdirectories to a user than deleted that user....when I found out I gave the owner ship back to root...does that make sence?! |
| 07:12.20 | amorphix | whats a network mask ip look like |
| 07:12.20 | dj_ryan | ok done |
| 07:12.30 | Guerin | mango: nuke the whole shop and reinstall from scratch and backups |
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| 07:12.31 | pacman | amorphix, first ones, then zeros. |
| 07:12.39 | amorphix | ok thanks |
| 07:12.45 | dj_ryan | http://channels.debian.net/paste/911 |
| 07:12.45 | mango | Guerin...Thank you very much |
| 07:12.45 | Guerin | !aliensmite mango's computer |
| 07:13.27 | pacman | hmm.. I hate when they thank me for an answer that was intended to be useless (and prod them into being more descriptive in the question) |
| 07:13.39 | Guerin | woah, that's pretty bad |
| 07:13.58 | Guerin | dj_ryan: try apt-get install e2fsprogs initscripts sysvinit |
| 07:14.21 | pacman | I'm glad I never ran into this e2fsprogs problem. It must be a bitch :) |
| 07:14.44 | amorphix | pacman: a subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 fyi |
| 07:14.54 | pacman | amorphix: 255.255.255.0 is 24 ones and 8 zeros. |
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| 07:15.01 | Guerin | h0h0h0, someone telling pacman about subnet masks |
| 07:15.02 | pacman | amorphix: that's why it's also called a /24 |
| 07:15.03 | Guerin | priceless |
| 07:15.07 | dj_ryan | ok it seems to be doign something |
| 07:15.54 | dj_ryan | ok installing |
| 07:15.56 | pacman | amorphix: for an example of something that's not a netmask, take 255.255.0.255. that's 16 ones, 8 zeros, and 8 ones. Since the ones aren't all to the left of the zeros, it doesn't fit the description "first ones, then zeros". |
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| 07:16.31 | Miesco | So I have to start giftd before I run gift client? |
| 07:16.36 | Guerin | Miesco: yes. |
| 07:16.42 | pacman | it's OK to type them in decimal to save space, but you don't understand them if you don't _see_ them as ones and zeros. |
| 07:16.53 | Miesco | Guerin: How would you start giftd? |
| 07:17.00 | Guerin | Miesco: and you have to configure it, as per the instructions in the documentation |
| 07:17.05 | Miesco | I did |
| 07:17.08 | dj_ryan | ok that did it |
| 07:17.11 | Guerin | Miesco: by typing giftd & in a shell |
| 07:17.12 | dj_ryan | thanks 1e6 |
| 07:17.14 | Miesco | But like, alt+f2, or open console |
| 07:17.17 | Miesco | Okay |
| 07:17.35 | Guerin | dj_ryan: the package should do that automatically, but it's good that it worked. |
| 07:17.56 | pacman | I tried that giftd/giftcurs thing; it seemed painfully limited. Only one search at a time, and you can't even go back to the previous search to see the results, they're all gone as soon as you start the second search (maybe I overlooked something obvious?) |
| 07:18.02 | Miesco | ooo it works |
| 07:18.14 | amorphix | I'm curious to know why my nic isnt using the appropriate driver (3c59x) |
| 07:18.15 | Miesco | Whats a ogg file? |
| 07:18.17 | Guerin | pacman: gift is crap anyway |
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| 07:18.26 | Guerin | Miesco: a media file |
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| 07:18.32 | Guerin | Miesco: usually music |
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| 07:18.39 | siemen | hi there! |
| 07:18.43 | cddesjar | i think there is something wrong with cups |
| 07:18.53 | cddesjar | i tried to go to localhost:631/printers |
| 07:18.53 | Miesco | Guerin: What client do you usually use? |
| 07:18.54 | Guerin | cddesjar: you'll find plenty who agree with you |
| 07:18.56 | cddesjar | and it timed out |
| 07:19.03 | cddesjar | well i need my printer to work |
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| 07:19.08 | cddesjar | and i can't get it to work on CUPS |
| 07:19.12 | Guerin | Miesco: i don't use gift, but i used giftcurs for a while |
| 07:19.14 | cddesjar | but i could a week ago |
| 07:19.16 | mad_ogre | pacman: telling exim about the new spool doesn't work since it never modified the $MAIL env |
| 07:19.25 | siemen | is there anyone here who could help me a bit with my pcmcia network card? |
| 07:19.26 | Guerin | cddesjar: so it's a config error on your part. What chanbged. |
| 07:19.26 | Guerin | ? |
| 07:19.32 | pacman | mad_ogre, maybe you should just set it in /etc/profile then. |
| 07:19.33 | cddesjar | i don't know |
| 07:19.36 | Guerin | siemen: details |
| 07:19.39 | amorphix | does anyone have a suggestion to find out driver a nic dev has loaded that doesnt involve 1's and zeros? |
| 07:19.39 | Guerin | cddesjar: find out. |
| 07:19.43 | cddesjar | i had to reinstall debina |
| 07:19.44 | cddesjar | debian |
| 07:19.49 | Guerin | amorphix: lspci |
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| 07:19.51 | dj_ryan | Guerin, awesomes. i love debian. |
| 07:19.53 | amorphix | thanks |
| 07:19.55 | Miesco | Okay good, I typed sex and it didn't return any porn |
| 07:19.57 | Guerin | cddesjar: ok, so everything changed. |
| 07:20.02 | cddesjar | but i have reinstalled cupsys, cups-clinet, cups-bsd, etc. |
| 07:20.05 | Guerin | Miesco: HAHAH |
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| 07:20.15 | deadcat | Miesco: i thought you DONT want to look for sex |
| 07:20.16 | cddesjar | but it's always been real easy to set it up |
| 07:20.33 | pacman | try search for music by Queen and _not_ getting gay porn. |
| 07:20.38 | Guerin | deadcat: no. He pretends he doesn't want to, but he actually can't think about anything else. |
| 07:20.41 | siemen | i'm trying to install a minimal debian trough damns mall linux on an old laptop, but the pcmcia network card is not really working |
| 07:20.47 | deadcat | Guerin: ah. |
| 07:20.55 | Miesco | I dont, I was checking if it would return porn |
| 07:20.56 | amorphix | have CardBus bridges been known to cause the "bottleneck" affect with regards to nic's? |
| 07:21.11 | Guerin | Miesco: sure, pal. If you really didn't, you'd just stop thinking about it. |
| 07:21.11 | deadcat | "I typed sex and it didn't return any porn" |
| 07:21.11 | siemen | pcmcia is detected on boot and the dchp-request is backgroundet, but the network never comes up... |
| 07:21.24 | Guerin | amorphix: no more so than anything else. |
| 07:21.29 | amorphix | ok |
| 07:21.36 | cddesjar | the cups site times out |
| 07:21.39 | Guerin | siemen: can you bring it up manually? |
| 07:21.45 | cddesjar | this i imagine must be a bug |
| 07:21.53 | Guerin | cddesjar: imagine what you like. |
| 07:21.58 | cddesjar | because it doesn't prompt me for my password |
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| 07:22.03 | siemen | BTW, how do I higlight stuff I write to you, Guerin? |
| 07:22.10 | xfoxx | guysyou should make a porn chat cause i dont know but this is a debian distro pro not a perverted chat problems =P |
| 07:22.11 | Guerin | siemen: just include my name |
| 07:22.17 | mad_ogre | pacman: thanx, that worked |
| 07:22.29 | siemen | I hope so, but this is whre I need help by someone who knows how :) |
| 07:22.37 | Guerin | xfoxx: your opinion has been considered and discarded |
| 07:22.40 | Miesco | Guerin: I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT IT |
| 07:22.46 | Guerin | Miesco: so I see. |
| 07:22.52 | pacman | I hope someone's logging this. |
| 07:22.53 | Miesco | Im just joking |
| 07:23.01 | Guerin | Miesco: but we don't care. Tell your priest or someone who does. |
| 07:23.03 | tremor | siemen: with acpi dis- or enabled on boot? |
| 07:23.11 | Miesco | Okay |
| 07:23.43 | Guerin | Miesco: go straight to the source: "Hey, god, if you don't want me to wank, give me a sign." Then wait. |
| 07:23.49 | Guerin | oops |
| 07:23.56 | Guerin | should be s/god/God/ |
| 07:24.06 | mango | Guerin: If I want to install the same software that is currently on my system ...where is the file located...thanks? |
| 07:24.15 | xfoxx | hehehe |
| 07:24.31 | Guerin | mango: dpkg --get-selections > installed.list |
| 07:24.52 | Miesco | No sign yet |
| 07:24.53 | siemen | tremor: cat /dev/proc/cmdline says noacpci ... |
| 07:25.10 | Guerin | mango: when you need to reinstall on your new system, do dpkg --set-selections < installed.list && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:25.17 | siemen | tremor: as well as nodma, noscsi, frugal and noapm |
| 07:25.33 | Guerin | Miesco: only you can decide when God's had enough time |
| 07:25.50 | siemen | I'll reboot with everytihning enabled |
| 07:27.02 | amorphix | I think my nic needs 3c59x driver support but the driver is not loaded and if i try to pull it up manually, not present.. isnt this driver in the latest stock kernel? |
| 07:27.18 | Guerin | amorphix: it is indeed. |
| 07:27.27 | mango | Guest: :) |
| 07:27.27 | amorphix | sheesh whats going on then |
| 07:27.45 | pacman | what did lspci say about the Ethernet interface? |
| 07:27.53 | amorphix | im running 2.6.8 |
| 07:28.21 | Miesco | What package has aclocal in it? |
| 07:28.24 | amorphix | Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556 Hurricane CardBus [Cyclone] (rev 10) |
| 07:28.24 | Miesco | cause I dont have it |
| 07:28.26 | pacman | you could try "modinfo 3c59x" to see if it's really missing. (and I can't wait to see how this relates to netmasks) |
| 07:28.31 | tremor | siemen: have you tried like guerin asked you? |
| 07:28.40 | pacman | aclocal is autoconf-related, might be in the autoconf package |
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| 07:29.01 | amorphix | pacman: I installed laptop-net utility |
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| 07:29.28 | siemen | tremor: nope, don't see what he suggested...? |
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| 07:29.37 | Guerin | siemen: dhclient eth0 |
| 07:29.41 | Guerin | siemen: see what happens |
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| 07:30.13 | amorphix | modinfo brings it up |
| 07:30.20 | siemen | guerin tremor: trying... |
| 07:30.32 | cddesjar | when i go to this set up cups (http://localhost:631/admin) it always says loading... |
| 07:30.35 | cddesjar | and never loads |
| 07:30.38 | pacman | modprobe it and run dmesg afterward |
| 07:30.50 | amorphix | ok |
| 07:31.28 | pacman | cddesjar, netstat -tan | grep :631 |
| 07:32.01 | cddesjar | what am i suppose to see? i see time_wait and established |
| 07:32.07 | amorphix | eth0: no IPv6 routers present & nfs warning: mount version older than kernel |
| 07:32.08 | siemen | tremor, Guerin: command not fount ... damn small linux is very minimal... |
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| 07:32.56 | cddesjar | it seems that the whole cups is just not responding |
| 07:32.57 | Licker | Anyone know any good FTP programs for Debian? |
| 07:33.00 | Guerin | siemen: won't work as user. Might be something else. Ask the dsl people, I have no clue what's on there |
| 07:33.02 | cddesjar | maybe that's the issue |
| 07:33.07 | riscos | Licker proftpd |
| 07:33.13 | Guerin | Licker: what sort of programs? |
| 07:33.16 | dpower | cddesjar: apt-get install vsftpd |
| 07:33.22 | amorphix | lsmod = 3c59x 39368 0 |
| 07:33.35 | mad_ogre | pacman: if I put the new $MAIL settings in /etc/profile, wouldn't this be a problem for x-windows based shells? |
| 07:33.35 | amorphix | doesnt seem to be loading |
| 07:33.47 | pacman | amorphix, if it shows in lsmod, it's loaded! |
| 07:33.48 | cddesjar | ok |
| 07:33.52 | Guerin | Miesco: never edit /etc/profile or bashrc |
| 07:33.52 | amorphix | ah |
| 07:33.53 | cddesjar | what's that suppose to do? |
| 07:33.54 | amorphix | heh |
| 07:33.59 | Licker | like packages. So i can FTP over to me web server |
| 07:34.02 | Guerin | mad_ogre: never edit /etc/profile or bashrc |
| 07:34.08 | amorphix | pacmac but its not being used by anything eh |
| 07:34.10 | Guerin | Licker: lftp or gftp |
| 07:34.15 | dpower | cddesjar: man apt-get |
| 07:34.20 | siemen | Guerin: i am root. but unfortunately there is no dsl irc channel, so i thought that debian might come closest. and after all i'm trying to do a debian install through dsl, the regular installer needs too much ram for my 32MB laptop |
| 07:34.25 | mad_ogre | Guerin: the thing is, I want to change the default mail spool to another dir |
| 07:34.28 | cddesjar | i know the apt-get |
| 07:34.32 | dpower | :) |
| 07:34.37 | cddesjar | the package...i read the man...it's about 2 paragraphs |
| 07:34.38 | Guerin | mad_ogre: so change the files in /etc/skel/ |
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| 07:34.57 | Guerin | siemen: dpkg -l |grep -i dhcp |
| 07:35.15 | Guerin | siemen: sarge installs on 32MB machines |
| 07:35.15 | liable | try for the third time to get stupid breezy to debootstrap.. |
| 07:35.16 | pacman | editing /etc/skel doesn't do much to help existing users |
| 07:35.29 | Guerin | pacman: neither does /etc/profile or bashrc |
| 07:35.30 | amorphix | if i play an mp3 now my nic is gonna squeal and then my sys is gonna freeze and im gonna have to reboot |
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| 07:35.37 | amorphix | same old routine |
| 07:35.41 | Guerin | amorphix: sucks to be you |
| 07:35.45 | amorphix | mm |
| 07:35.49 | amorphix | it does |
| 07:36.12 | spdf | You know what doesn't suck... the oreos I just ate. Delicious. |
| 07:36.15 | mad_ogre | Guerin: i tried changing the MAIL_DIR option /etc/login.defs, but that doesn't do a thing |
| 07:36.16 | amorphix | i wanna sell this laptop on monday if i cant resolve this long standing prob |
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| 07:36.50 | Guerin | mad_ogre: you'll have to tell existing users to change their own dotfiles, or do it yourself |
| 07:37.01 | siemen | Guerin: even when you have shrade video ram whci reduces it to ~29 M ? Ubuntu does not, I tried it, and at Ubuntu they say it is the debian-installer's fault... |
| 07:37.05 | Guerin | mad_ogre: in any case, this is a decision which should have been made before the machine went live |
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| 07:37.17 | Guerin | siemen: if you have shared video ram, you don't have 32MB |
| 07:37.28 | pacman | they won't have to change their existing dotfiles if they haven't already been messign with the default MAIL variable. And if they weren't using the old default, they probably don't want the new default either! |
| 07:37.30 | Guerin | siemen: i'd advise you to install woody, which requires 24 |
| 07:37.39 | siemen | Guerin: no, you are right... |
| 07:37.44 | amorphix | I've checked the nic. the lan. the server. the cable. the hub. nfs config. transfer protocol. |
| 07:37.57 | siemen | okay |
| 07:38.12 | siemen | Guerin: which is version 3.0 ? |
| 07:38.15 | amorphix | also the laptop's memory and hardware on 24hr diagnostics |
| 07:38.21 | riscos | kak e |
| 07:38.22 | amorphix | what else is left eh |
| 07:38.29 | Guerin | siemen: sarge can also install in less than 32MB if you have swap set up and available to the installer |
| 07:38.33 | Guerin | siemen: woody is 3.0 |
| 07:38.48 | Guerin | siemen: realise that once the system's installed, you can upgrade |
| 07:39.20 | siemen | guerin: yeah... but actually I wouldn't even need that |
| 07:41.13 | siemen | guerin: but maybe you can help me a bit to see how much of the network card is actually working before I completely reinstall? i can see there is something in the lsmod output |
| 07:41.52 | Guerin | siemen: if it's not up, there's no use. |
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| 07:44.37 | siemen | guerin: what do you mean? I mean, my intention is to bring it up :) |
| 07:44.50 | Guerin | siemen: how do you intend to do that without a dhcp client? |
| 07:45.00 | siemen | guerin: |
| 07:45.14 | Guerin | siemen: the point also being |
| 07:45.27 | Guerin | dsl DOES have a dhcp client. Figure out what it is and use it. |
| 07:45.36 | siemen | guerin: Ah :) well, dsl uses busybox, so things are actually present |
| 07:45.51 | siemen | guerin: but they are not the regular GNU utlities... |
| 07:46.08 | Guerin | hence why we have no idea how to help you |
| 07:46.08 | siemen | guerin: sorry for asking you about such non-debian stuff here.. |
| 07:46.21 | pacman | craft the dhcp packets by hand with netcat! or are you a wimp |
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| 07:47.08 | siemen | Figure out what it is and use it <-- Would really like to, actually... |
| 07:47.33 | pacman | dhcp clients are usually called dhclient, dhcpcd, or pump |
| 07:48.10 | pacman | maybe bootp :) |
| 07:48.23 | siemen | it has pump |
| 07:48.49 | siemen | # pump Operation failed. |
| 07:48.53 | siemen | not very informative.... |
| 07:49.10 | pacman | uh, man pump? pump --help? |
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| 07:50.20 | dli | siemen, I remember it's like "pump -i eth1" |
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| 07:51.11 | siemen | dli, pacman: both pump -i eth0 and -i eth1 say 'Operation failed.' |
| 07:51.24 | bucky | siemen, debian doesn't use pump by default.. which distro are you using |
| 07:51.30 | siemen | and yes, there is some help with pump --help |
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| 07:52.01 | siemen | bucky, damn small linux. try to use it to install a minimalistic debian |
| 07:52.31 | dli | siemen, which one should you use? eth0 or eth1 ? |
| 07:52.48 | siemen | dli: eth0. thet's waht i says on bootup |
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| 07:53.26 | pacman | could this be one of those things where you have to "ifconfig eth0 up" before you can use it? |
| 07:53.31 | siemen | it says network device eth0 detected, DHCP broadcasting for IP (Backgrounded) |
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| 07:53.55 | dli | siemen, the lan cable is connected? dmesg|less to see whethe it says "eth0: link up" |
| 07:54.26 | pacman | also mii-tool is good |
| 07:54.31 | siemen | the connection led is on |
| 07:54.50 | dli | siemen, what about your dhcp server? |
| 07:54.51 | pacman | don't trust the blinkenlights, check mii-tool |
| 07:55.01 | siemen | ifconfig eth0 up says SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy |
| 07:55.31 | siemen | the dhcp server surely works, the computer i'm writng from uses the same... |
| 07:55.49 | dli | pacman is arping a good idea here? |
| 07:56.08 | pacman | strange... I can use "ifconfig eth0 up" even when it's already up and active, and I don't get a "Device or resource busy" error. |
| 07:56.21 | dli | siemen, check dhcp server log, then |
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| 07:56.35 | siemen | dli: where do i find it? |
| 07:56.56 | dli | siemen, depends on your type of dhcp server |
| 07:56.58 | Saafirosz | hello someone can explain this? (apt-get dont work) |
| 07:57.01 | pacman | yes, dhcp server log... also known as "run tcpdump on the dhcp server and see what happens when you pump it" |
| 07:57.18 | Saafirosz | et:5 ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org stable Release.gpg [197B] |
| 07:57.18 | Saafirosz | Err ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org stable Release.gpg |
| 07:57.18 | Saafirosz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.35 | dli | pacman, I think you can even find the requests in syslog |
| 07:57.46 | amorphix | oww. think I just broke me nose on this laptop |
| 07:57.47 | siemen | dli, pacman . i hvave no acces to the dhcp server |
| 07:57.51 | dvsdude | siemen: what is result lsmod command do you see module loaded for nic and used |
| 07:58.01 | amorphix | right thats it, this goes on eBay on monday |
| 07:58.07 | Saafirosz | seoeone can help |
| 07:58.11 | Saafirosz | someone |
| 07:58.14 | dli | siemen, are you sure your MAC address is allowed |
| 07:58.14 | Saafirosz | ? |
| 07:58.38 | amorphix | I have a Palm 525 I'm looking to offload |
| 07:58.56 | amorphix | no its a 530 |
| 07:58.58 | siemen | dli: i'm rather sure. I think it is my own fault it doesn't work; must be configured:) |
| 07:59.04 | dli | Saafirosz, what about changing your sources.list by running "apt-setup" |
| 07:59.29 | siemen | dvsdude, lsmod gives me a screenful of modules, but no one called nic or used.. |
| 07:59.31 | mad_ogre | pacman: i found out why changing MAIL_DIR in login.defs doesn't do anything |
| 07:59.35 | amorphix | any of you geeks after a colour palm? |
| 07:59.45 | Saafirosz | but the list is OK...i've used that list much time ago |
| 07:59.50 | dli | siemen, can you arping the dhcp server IP? |
| 07:59.50 | pacman | siemen, how about ifconfig -a, does that at least list eth0 with an UP flag? |
| 07:59.55 | mad_ogre | pacman: seems like there's a fix w/ later versions of login that'll honor the settings in login.defs |
| 08:00.04 | pacman | mad_ogre is it because MAIL_DIR has been obsoleted by PAM? |
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| 08:00.48 | mad_ogre | pacman: i don't think so, PAM can override settings in login.defs |
| 08:00.55 | dli | Saafirosz, don't believe in, we are talking about computers not religions |
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| 08:01.01 | mad_ogre | pacman: but i don't think it made it obsolete |
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| 08:01.18 | Saafirosz | Ok I will try fix it |
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| 08:02.20 | siemen | dli, hm... i don't know the ip address if the dhcp server... is there a way i can find it form this computer? |
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| 08:02.55 | amorphix | morphix's top (debian unrelated) tip of the day: pour warm water into your teacup before putting tea in, then pour it back into kettle. keeps your tea warmer for considerably longer |
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| 08:03.22 | siemen | pacman, ifconfig -a shows eth0 and lo, but nothing that could remind of some UP (or not up) flags... |
| 08:03.25 | spdf | Both informative and useful! Thanks amorphix! |
| 08:03.29 | amorphix | np |
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| 08:04.13 | amorphix | damn its so cold and grey im depressed |
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| 08:04.28 | pacman | siemen, you've got some weird situation there. any flags showing up at all? BROADCAST at least? |
| 08:04.30 | amorphix | all the colour has been sucked away |
| 08:04.31 | Trajanux | hi all |
| 08:05.08 | amorphix | visage fade to grey springs to mind |
| 08:05.08 | dli | siemen, yes, from your syslog with a success dhcp |
| 08:06.00 | siemen | pacman: yes. it shows broadcast multicast mtu:1500 metric:1 |
| 08:06.00 | siemen | pacman: and then a lot of packet statistics like RX packets, all of which are 0 except txqueuelen:1000 |
| 08:06.09 | amorphix | well an email in my inbox says ive won the Swiss Lotto of 4 million without even entering, so its not all bad |
| 08:06.16 | dli | siemen, UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 |
| 08:06.26 | pacman | so it's not up, and you can't ifconfig it up. That's a new one for me. |
| 08:06.45 | dyne_user | #nicksetup |
| 08:06.46 | Trajanux | i just dl one package .deb i do apt-get install package_name and i only have package not found, but the package is on my hard drive in the correct path, what is the probleme please ? |
| 08:06.57 | siemen | pacman: yeah. Oh wait, the 'lo' device actually shows UP as well |
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| 08:07.12 | siemen | pacaman, (local loopback) |
| 08:07.15 | joedj | Trajanux: dpkg -i file.dpkg |
| 08:07.18 | dli | Trajanux, use "dpkg -i foo.deb" |
| 08:07.20 | joedj | Trajanux: er, file.deb |
| 08:07.24 | pacman | well, if eth0 doesn't say UP, and "ifconfig eth0 up" fails, I have no idea what to do next. end of the line for me |
| 08:07.32 | siemen | pacman, so LO is up and etch0 is not |
| 08:07.38 | Trajanux | thx joedj and dli |
| 08:07.53 | spdf | siemen, your /etc/network/interfaces is config'd properly aswell? |
| 08:07.59 | siemen | pacaman, maybe we can see if all the neede modules are loaded? |
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| 08:08.07 | Trajanux | seems to be ok thx guys :) |
| 08:08.25 | pacman | siemen, what about mii-tool? this is the third time I've mentioned it... try it. really. |
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| 08:09.09 | amorphix | optical mice are the best thing since....wacom pens |
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| 08:10.49 | lgd_ | hi all |
| 08:11.20 | siemen | pacman, what about mii-tool? this is the third time I've mentioned it<-- sorry. i tried it but forgot to post back. it says no MII devices found |
| 08:11.50 | pacman | holy crap, what kind of ethernet card is that? does ifconfig -a even show the MAC address? |
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| 08:12.06 | amorphix | pacman do you still play pacman? |
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| 08:12.50 | omry | amorphix, he is living it, eating peels and running away from cops :) |
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| 08:12.56 | omry | pills |
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| 08:13.21 | amorphix | hehe |
| 08:13.24 | siemen | pacman: but i think you had a good idea with that /etc/network/config file; it says static ip address. i'll changege it and restart |
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| 08:14.30 | pacman | how's that go... "Of course video games don't affect kids. If we were affected by pacman, tehre'd be a generation of young adults running around in darkened rooms listening to repetetive electronic music and munching pills" |
| 08:14.32 | thespiritoftal | here I am |
| 08:14.35 | thespiritoftal | on the road again |
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| 08:14.53 | Horde | hey can someone give me a hand with connecting my box to the internet? |
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| 08:14.58 | Alpha1 | hi |
| 08:15.20 | Alpha1 | I'm dual-booting, but had to reinstall windows, now my grub is poked. Anyone know how to get my bootlaoder back? |
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| 08:15.40 | thespiritoftal | so you installed windows and grub in the same partition |
| 08:15.44 | Alpha1 | I booted off the debian dvd, but installing gub/lilo from the menu didn't work |
| 08:15.55 | Alpha1 | well, grub is on the mba thingy |
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| 08:16.06 | Alpha1 | but yes, they're all on /dev/hda |
| 08:16.28 | dvsdude | Alpha1: can be done it using knoppix |
| 08:16.33 | Alpha1 | with gentoo I could prolly do a chroot thingy to get inside the gentoo environment, but I dunno if it's possible with debian |
| 08:16.35 | netfrog | Alpha1: try to boot , chroot to your original / and re-install grub |
| 08:16.43 | Alpha1 | ah-ha! |
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| 08:17.07 | Alpha1 | ta peeps, lemme find my knoppix cd |
| 08:17.23 | dvsdude | Alpha1: use knoppix then chroot and run grub-update |
| 08:17.39 | Horde | can anyone give me a hand? im trying to connect it to a lan, and when i "ifconfig eth0" it it comes up witha paragraph |
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| 08:17.48 | somiaj | thespiritoftal: you'll have to boot off of somesort of bootable media and reinstall grub into the MBR on your drive |
| 08:17.53 | netfrog | Alpha1: grub cd is also a good thingie which you might want to try if something goes wrong |
| 08:17.55 | Alpha1 | how does one chroot again? It's been a while since my gentoo days :) |
| 08:18.08 | somiaj | thespiritoftal: sorry, wrong person |
| 08:18.10 | thespiritoftal | somiaj: that was for Alpha1 not me :) |
| 08:18.14 | thespiritoftal | somiaj: yup |
| 08:18.46 | netfrog | Alpha1: mkdir /t; mount whatever-is-the-device /t; chroot /t |
| 08:19.08 | Alpha1 | yay |
| 08:19.11 | Alpha1 | thanks++ |
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| 08:19.26 | encompass | hi all |
| 08:19.29 | dyne_user | i just installed debian via floppy since that's the only choice i really have at the moment, but every time grub starts to boot it shows one line of text for a split-second and reboots the system. can somebody tell me what's wrong here? |
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| 08:20.02 | encompass | How do UI submit a package for review... I want zinc to be in apt |
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| 08:20.37 | encompass | anyone anyone |
| 08:20.40 | somiaj | encompass: acually getting a package into debian can be a pain if I recall corectlly |
| 08:20.53 | encompass | !I love you |
| 08:20.53 | dpkg | I hope you mean in the platonic sense :/ |
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| 08:21.09 | encompass | !no really |
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| 08:21.20 | pacman | what does zinc do? something that isn't already done by 5 other packages? |
| 08:21.20 | somiaj | encompass: what you need to do is find a debian package matianer, and have him sponsor the package (i belive that is the easiest way) |
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| 08:21.31 | encompass | ok |
| 08:21.41 | encompass | !who are you |
| 08:21.41 | dpkg | I'm a chimp! |
| 08:21.52 | encompass | !do you talk? |
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| 08:22.01 | encompass | ha |
| 08:22.07 | encompass | !do you dance? |
| 08:22.21 | Horde | that didnt make any sense |
| 08:22.35 | encompass | !jump |
| 08:22.35 | dpkg | How high? |
| 08:22.38 | hid3 | Hello everyone.. An offtopic issue here: I have an IDE hard disk, a cdrom and a cdrw drive (both ide also). What is the best way to connect them in one system? (I mean ide configuration, master/slave, primary/secondary) |
| 08:22.43 | encompass | !10 feet |
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| 08:22.59 | pacman | !hello sailor |
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| 08:23.12 | encompass | !moo |
| 08:23.13 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 08:23.14 | pacman | hmph. |
| 08:23.21 | omry | cut the crap. |
| 08:23.27 | Horde | lol |
| 08:23.30 | encompass | ha |
| 08:23.33 | dvsdude | hid3: h/d master primary and cdrw master with cd slave |
| 08:23.53 | hid3 | dvsdude: thanks |
| 08:23.54 | encompass | hid3 I would do it this way, BURNER on one ide, and cdrom and hd on another |
| 08:24.21 | encompass | but I don't think it matters for most people does it? |
| 08:24.51 | hid3 | well dunno, I don't want to make a mistake which would cause a big performance loss |
| 08:25.02 | netfrog | encompass: i have ide on one and 2 burners on the other. no problems |
| 08:25.26 | pacman | pick the 2 devices that you're least likely to use simultaneously, and put them on the same cable. |
| 08:25.28 | dvsdude | dont put cd with ide hd on same channel |
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| 08:25.51 | somiaj | hid3: well i'd just make sure the hd is using an 80 wire ide cable, I personally would put the hd on its own ide device, and the two cdroms together |
| 08:26.00 | encompass | but if you use the hd to cd more than cd to cd then wouldn't it be better? |
| 08:26.08 | dvsdude | no |
| 08:26.30 | encompass | haha, well, that blows my experience out the window |
| 08:26.34 | dvsdude | do as somija and i suggest plse |
| 08:26.42 | hid3 | I think I'll connect hd pri/master, burner sec/ma and cdrom as sec/sl |
| 08:26.50 | encompass | sure |
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| 08:27.26 | encompass | I run a 700 mhz 128ram lappy, performacy is not something I worry about |
| 08:27.28 | encompass | :P |
| 08:28.16 | amorphix | i have 600mhz 256 |
| 08:28.46 | omry | I have pentium 166mmx! |
| 08:28.49 | omry | wtf. |
| 08:28.57 | amorphix | and a palm 530 16mb |
| 08:28.58 | encompass | and you use it? ha |
| 08:29.02 | omry | nah |
| 08:29.08 | omry | its in the garage :) |
| 08:29.21 | mad_ogre | does anyone know how to initiate a smtp telnet session with mx1.mail.yahoo.com? |
| 08:29.22 | encompass | I would use it |
| 08:29.24 | netfrog | well, i have 386 somewhere then ;) |
| 08:29.26 | encompass | mp3 server! |
| 08:29.29 | amorphix | those low power pentium's are underrated |
| 08:29.39 | omry | mad_ogre, telnet server 25 |
| 08:29.42 | amorphix | still have their uses |
| 08:29.50 | initiate | mad_ogre, >.< highlights |
| 08:29.52 | initiate | :P |
| 08:29.54 | amorphix | yes |
| 08:29.56 | amorphix | mp3 server |
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| 08:30.25 | mad_ogre | omry: i know, but it won't respond to my "mail from: user@domain" input |
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| 08:31.10 | omry | mad_ogre, did you HELO |
| 08:31.11 | omry | ? |
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| 08:31.45 | jair | hello guys, I install the package on my sarge "bittorrent" |
| 08:31.47 | mad_ogre | omry: yes, i used EHLO |
| 08:31.55 | jair | but I forgot the command to run it? |
| 08:32.13 | omry | mad_ogre, dunno, google for a reference. |
| 08:32.15 | tremor | jair: bt<tab> |
| 08:32.19 | jair | bittorrent I know that it can download more than one torrent at the time |
| 08:32.37 | jair | tremor, it is something like a multinetwork |
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| 08:32.48 | red_paladin | hello |
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| 08:33.07 | mad_ogre | omry: i tried, but didn't had much luck. i'll give it another shot |
| 08:33.08 | red_paladin | can someone help me on identd? |
| 08:33.33 | red_paladin | I have pidentd installed but I can't use dcc or efnet anymore ;( |
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| 08:33.44 | jair | tremor, it is the one I am talking about. |
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| 08:33.52 | morluk | lo |
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| 08:34.32 | omry | mad_ogre, http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=153119 |
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| 08:34.43 | omry | mad_ogre, think your mail from shouldn't have ":" |
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| 08:34.58 | jair | tremor, this is the one I have installed bittornado - bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface |
| 08:35.09 | pacman | why are you trying to talk SMTP by hand to yahoo? |
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| 08:35.40 | tremor | jair: yes. try typing 'bt' followed by one or more <tab>s |
| 08:36.25 | tremor | jair: you should find something like: btdownloadgui.bittornado |
| 08:36.32 | tremor | or so |
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| 08:38.25 | mad_ogre | omry: the microsoft article does have a "mail from: " input |
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| 08:38.59 | omry | mad_ogre, right. I was looking at the respnse. |
| 08:38.59 | mad_ogre | pacman: oh, because whenever i tried sending mail to yahoo, i never received anything |
| 08:39.06 | omry | mad_ogre, did you use capital letters? |
| 08:39.16 | mad_ogre | omry: no, but shouldn't matter |
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| 08:39.30 | pacman | using Microsoft as a reference for stadnard protocol syntax is hardly ever going to be a smart idea. |
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| 08:39.42 | mad_ogre | pacman: i agree :) |
| 08:39.51 | jair | tremor, nope I am not looking for a gui, i am interested in the command line, and I found it I use this:http://linux.com.hk/PenguinWeb/manpage.jsp?section=1&name=bittorrent-multi-downloader.bittorrent |
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| 08:39.58 | jair | tremor, thank you anyway :) |
| 08:40.08 | Genghis | hi |
| 08:40.09 | tremor | jair: apt-get install rtorrent |
| 08:40.10 | LootBeer | can i ask u.. if i have a whole stack of electronics/circuit boars/etc in a room.. would it poison my room??? heard that electronics causes pollution leading to cancer? |
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| 08:40.32 | Genghis | anyone knows why in resolv.conf only the first nameserv is used? |
| 08:40.42 | LootBeer | can i ask u.. if i have a whole stack of electronics/circuit boars/etc in a room.. would it poison my room??? heard that electronics causes pollution leading to cancer? |
| 08:40.46 | pacman | the SMTP standard is RFC2821. and the MAIL FROM command requires angle brackets: <...> around the address. Many clients get it wrong, and many servers are lenient in allowing the angle brackets to be omitted, but not all. |
| 08:40.48 | Genghis | cause the first is down, the second is up, but my box aint using the second one... |
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| 08:41.48 | mad_ogre | pacman: oh, i see |
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| 08:42.34 | mad_ogre | pacman: do you think the default debian exim4 install misconfigured it? |
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| 08:42.39 | pacman | Note Microsoft Telnet does not permit you to use the Backspace key. If you make a mistake when you type a command, you must press ENTER, and then start a new command. |
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| 08:42.47 | pacman | ahh, Micros~1, how we love you |
| 08:42.54 | red_paladin | well |
| 08:42.54 | ranjeeth | each time when i start audacity after booting player shows i/o device error --- can any one suggest -- if i use sudo killall esd it works |
| 08:42.56 | red_paladin | you can use delete |
| 08:43.29 | ranjeeth | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.29 | ranjeeth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:44.11 | pacman | mad_ogre, I think it's more likely that yahoo simply doesn't like you. yahoo rejects a lot of mail for no good reason. |
| 08:44.18 | bucky | dpkg -r realplayer |
| 08:44.31 | bucky | thank you dpkg |
| 08:44.57 | bucky | ranjeeth, where did you get a realplayer deb ? |
| 08:45.07 | mad_ogre | pacman: i think you're right. My ip doesn't reverse resolve to anything so it might got rejected |
| 08:45.12 | pacman | ranjeeth, I think that dpkg error message was about as clear as it could possibly be. Which word don't you understand? |
| 08:45.30 | omry | pacman, mad_ogre nah, its fine, but he needs to use <> around the mail addressed like pacman suggested. |
| 08:45.58 | mad_ogre | pacman: btw, i got "250 ok dirdel" when i finished inputting my DATA. what does that mean? |
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| 08:46.10 | omry | mad_ogre, it means its sent. |
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| 08:46.13 | omry | 250 is okay. |
| 08:46.15 | pacman | mad_ogre, 250 is good. Anything starting with a 2 is a success code. |
| 08:46.37 | pacman | I don't know what "dirdel" means but it's not important. |
| 08:46.38 | ranjeeth | am new for linux |
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| 08:47.31 | liable | bucky: you can get it from marillat. |
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| 08:47.49 | red_paladin | liable: marrilat is that the guy who made ines? |
| 08:47.52 | mad_ogre | pacman: trouble is, i still can't find my mail anywhere. not even in bulk |
| 08:48.04 | liable | red_paladin: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 08:48.25 | red_paladin | okok |
| 08:48.36 | pacman | mad_ogre, call them up and demand your money back then |
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| 08:49.09 | steigweis | how can i get my usb-printer t9o automatically start up, when do a printing job from client? |
| 08:49.17 | steigweis | i |
| 08:49.25 | jorfro2005 | OK people, i have an ATI Mobility Radeon x700, i bought an Acer Ferrari 4005WLMI |
| 08:49.30 | jorfro2005 | I can't get it to work in Sarge |
| 08:49.39 | jorfro2005 | i'm using the 2.4.27-2-386 kernel |
| 08:49.44 | mad_ogre | pacman: kinda difficult to demand money back from a free email account :) |
| 08:49.45 | jorfro2005 | ummmmm i tried vesa, ati, etc |
| 08:49.52 | jorfro2005 | only thing that works is the generica vga |
| 08:50.04 | jorfro2005 | BUT.......it thinks i'm in dual monitors, and the resolution is terrible |
| 08:50.04 | pacman | exactly. in mail service you get what you pay for. Freemail providers are crap. |
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| 08:51.24 | mad_ogre | pacman: actually, i got my own mail server setup already. it's just that i can't send outgoing mail to yahoo though |
| 08:51.33 | mad_ogre | pacman: strange thing is, hotmail works fine |
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| 08:53.41 | omry | mad_ogre, you on dynamic ip? |
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| 08:54.27 | mad_ogre | omry: no, if i'm on dynamic ip, i won't even be able to initiate a smtp telnet session w/ yahoo's mx server |
| 08:54.43 | elther | hello there! anybody tried the broadcom driver in http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/? |
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| 08:55.02 | omry | mad_ogre, why not? |
| 08:55.35 | mad_ogre | omry: most email servers reject sessions coming from dynamic ip blocks |
| 08:55.36 | deadcat | elther: its not ready yet |
| 08:55.49 | elther | deadcat: so it's not working,yet? |
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| 08:56.04 | deadcat | elther: no.. look at the progress page. |
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| 08:56.53 | elther | deadcat: do you mean http://linux-bcom4301.sourceforge.net/go/progress ? |
| 08:57.02 | omry | mad_ogre, didn't reject me. |
| 08:57.20 | mad_ogre | omry: what did ur ip reverses to? |
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| 08:57.46 | Frankablu | You have left channel #debian (requested by ChanServ: "Forbidden Channel") ??? |
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| 08:58.56 | mad_ogre | omry: what isp are u using? |
| 08:59.09 | elther | I can't find a driver progress page,just a progress of the specifications but they say they won't go further since all needed is provided |
| 08:59.22 | omry | mad_ogre, internet zahav, in israel. |
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| 09:00.29 | mad_ogre | omry: mine is sbc yahoo so i guess there are many spammers in that came from this dynamic ip block? |
| 09:01.03 | omry | mad_ogre, it wont even let you telnet in with that ip? |
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| 09:02.00 | PoPnow | is there any way to make a disk image of a compactflash card to a file so I can put that image on another compactflash card? |
| 09:02.02 | mad_ogre | omry: when i try it, it'll say "trying x.x.x.x..." but it'll never give the smtp ready prompt |
| 09:02.11 | PoPnow | oh and I have only a USB meda icard reader |
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| 09:02.53 | omry | mad_ogre, either they block you, or there are other problems. try treceroute |
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| 09:04.32 | pacman | SBC does not intend to give you a fully functional Internet connection if you're not paying for "business" service. Among the things you will not be able to do is run a proper MTA. |
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| 09:05.20 | mad_ogre | omry: can't traceroute, but ping got through |
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| 09:06.04 | omry | mad_ogre, where did the traceroute stopeed? |
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| 09:06.24 | omry | mad_ogre, is what pacman says is true, you better try another ISP :) |
| 09:06.47 | mad_ogre | omry: ten-9-1.bas1.mud.yahoo.com |
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| 09:07.03 | pacman | for better replication of the SMTP problem, you can use tcptraceroute and specify port 25. |
| 09:07.35 | omry | pacman, cool. didn't know about this one. |
| 09:07.56 | omry | mad_ogre, sounds like its yahoo that blocks you than. |
| 09:07.57 | clojster | how can I view changelog of some package (and download it) via apt-get (of apt-cache??). Man didn't help... In Synaptic it's easy, but is there a command which does this? |
| 09:08.01 | pacman | tcptraceroute is pretty awesome. |
| 09:08.15 | mad_ogre | pacman, omry: sbc yahoo is my isp, but i'm using aplushosting for my mail server |
| 09:09.04 | pacman | oh, that's different. |
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| 09:09.11 | pacman | tcptraceroute is still a good idea. |
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| 09:10.04 | ben_der | hi... i've been having some problems installing debian |
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| 09:10.21 | ben_der | vould anyone help me out a bit |
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| 09:11.26 | dvsdude | ben_der: whats ur ? |
| 09:12.01 | mad_ogre | pacman, omry: no problem w/ tcptraceroute from aplushosting, but can't even get 1 host from sbc yahoo |
| 09:12.52 | pacman | there you go. SBC blocks port 25. You want a real Internet connection without things blocked, you gotta ask them for an upgrade. |
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| 09:14.21 | ben_der | no keyboard |
| 09:14.24 | Trajanux | is there an apt way to satisfy all dependancy ? please |
| 09:14.34 | ben_der | doesn't recognise it |
| 09:14.36 | pacman | apt-get -f install |
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| 09:15.07 | Trajanux | pacman, -f will check all dependency are u sure ? |
| 09:15.09 | ben_der | it's stops recognising it when the language selection comes |
| 09:15.13 | honschu | How to make a screenshot from the hole display in X ? |
| 09:15.22 | mad_ogre | pacman, omry: well, thanx for everything. gotta go to bed |
| 09:15.43 | honschu | Which program is lightwight and only one command to make a screenshot? |
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| 09:17.03 | honschu | import -window root root.jpeg |
| 09:17.05 | pacman | xwd |
| 09:18.52 | pacman | ldd =import|wc -l : 22 ... ldd =xwd|wc -l : 6 ... which one is lightweight? |
| 09:18.56 | paivakil | what does the RESUME section in mkinitrd.conf file resume from? |
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| 09:19.59 | cahoot | honschu: scrot |
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| 09:21.07 | kokkoo | hi i have two nic, eth0 (using 192.168.1.2) and eth1(using 10.0.0.2), can i use gw 192.168.1.1 for eth1 ? |
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| 09:41.12 | dadehoog | greetings all |
| 09:41.52 | dadehoog | I have a laptop with two pcmcia network devices which are controlled through /etc/network/interfaces and hotplug ... |
| 09:42.14 | [Deek] | umm, cool? |
| 09:42.17 | dadehoog | this machine is old, permanently on, and acts as my wireless - wired router, hence I have a bridge (br0) operating all the time |
| 09:42.32 | dadehoog | however, I can't get hotplug to bring up br0 |
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| 09:42.38 | dadehoog | it only brings up eth0 and eth1 |
| 09:42.45 | dadehoog | any suggestions ? |
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| 09:43.37 | dadehoog | I have definitions for each interface (eth0,eth1,br0) in interfaces, and "allow hotplug eth0 eth1 br0" |
| 09:44.09 | dadehoog | br0 comes up fine if I run "ifup br0" after boot ... but I'd like it to come up automagically ... |
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| 09:49.28 | woodland | hi |
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| 09:51.12 | cappiz | someone here compiled their own freenx 1.5? |
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| 09:53.39 | efaistos | does someone use xdvdshrink ? i can't extract the subtitle .... |
| 09:54.29 | woodland | in their faq , xine says Make sure your /etc/ld.so.conf contains /usr/local/lib, but i checked and i have /usr/X11R6/lib in that position |
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| 10:03.27 | Stilgar^ | hello! |
| 10:04.23 | Stilgar^ | I am trying to install debian using loadlin (it's a machine I can only put files on; I cannot boot from floppy, cdrom or network) |
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| 10:06.45 | Stilgar^ | I cannot get it to boot from initrd, I keep getting cramfs: wrong magic and then a kernel panic trying to mount the root fs |
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| 10:11.10 | michal_ | hi. anyone happen to know anything about regexps in python? i'm trying to match (<table)(.+)(</table>) but the </table> seems to match the LAST occurance in the html rather than the first |
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| 10:12.48 | gbon121 | michal_: in perl, I'd use (.+?) to select the shortest match. I don't know python |
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| 10:13.46 | michal_ | gbon121, thanks.. i think this may have something to do with it.. i don't want greedy i guess |
| 10:14.16 | michal_ | yep :) that was it |
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| 10:14.29 | michal_ | (<table)(.+?)(</table>) |
| 10:17.29 | Horde | hey, wahts woody like? is it missing anything important? |
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| 10:18.01 | caphuso | Horde: it's missing about 3 years |
| 10:19.18 | Horde | ah, well whats it like? is it relitively the same as sarge? |
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| 10:20.49 | caphuso | Horde: it's debian, so yes, it is relitively (sic) the same. not that this would be meaningful in any way... |
| 10:21.50 | caphuso | Horde: do you have _any_ reason to actually think about woody? |
| 10:22.06 | Horde | alrighty, its just that i got a pretty clear instalation for the box i want it running on, and i cant really find anything as accurate as this for the sarge versions |
| 10:22.25 | caphuso | huh? |
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| 10:23.46 | Horde | well, i want to install it on a toshiba sattelite 2180CDT(laptop) and i found a step-by-step installation tutorial for the exact model i wanted |
| 10:23.53 | Horde | wiich is a pretty rare find... |
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| 10:25.07 | caphuso | Horde: so you decided that instead of using the new sarge installer with much improved hardware support you'd be trying the old version of debian with more limited hardware support, that made a special guide necessary in the first place? |
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| 10:25.21 | midas | hi !! |
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| 10:25.36 | Horde | lol something like that |
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| 10:28.00 | midas | I've got some problems with a mail server: I've got 2 e-mail acounts in a server that runs SMTP-IMAPS and I want to use them in a PHP scrtipt. Anyway I can't connect them. What I need to use? Mutt ? |
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| 10:31.07 | midas | any idea? |
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| 10:33.51 | cyclic | hi |
| 10:34.22 | cyclic | can anyone help me with the driver sk98lin?? |
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| 10:35.46 | midas | well, where I can ask about e-mail clients for a IMAPS/SMTP server ? |
| 10:35.55 | manas | where can i find a powerpc 7447 system programmers manual ? |
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| 10:42.38 | paivakil | I just did an apt-get upgrade, and the new mkinitrd commented out the RESUME line mkinitrd.conf; I want to know if it is safe to reboot |
| 10:43.53 | manas | did the upgrade get a new kernel ? |
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| 10:44.07 | paivakil | no |
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| 10:44.26 | manas | then why did it make a new initrd ? |
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| 10:45.05 | paivakil | coz mkinitrd was upgraded |
| 10:45.21 | manas | hmm |
| 10:45.47 | manas | and you have suspend2 patched kernel ? |
| 10:45.53 | paivakil | what does the RESUME section in mkinitrd.conf file resume from? |
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| 10:46.31 | paivakil | manas: I am running the 2.6.12-1-amd64-generic #1 kernel - AMD 64 Sid |
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| 10:48.58 | manas | paivakil, it is used to suspend to disk or 'hibernate'. |
| 10:49.10 | paivakil | ah; I can ignore it then? |
| 10:49.14 | manas | paivakil, if you do not hibernate, don't worry about it. |
| 10:49.33 | paivakil | ah. thanks |
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| 10:59.03 | tarzeau | anyone can think of something funny with 118 GB Memory ? |
| 10:59.24 | SimonRaven | compile some C++ app |
| 10:59.32 | SimonRaven | ;p |
| 10:59.59 | SimonRaven | run 100 xen instances at 1 GB each |
| 11:00.13 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: the memory is spread to 150 machines |
| 11:00.26 | SimonRaven | damn |
| 11:00.34 | riscos | any one tell me icq for console |
| 11:00.46 | SimonRaven | centericq is my first thought |
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| 11:00.59 | tarzeau | bitlbee+irssi? |
| 11:01.11 | cstljau | hi, can anybody help me with the following problem? I have a usb network link, which works fine, but the problem is, that it is not detected during boot process and that it lasts about 15 minutes after booting until it is detected. |
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| 11:01.39 | tarzeau | cstljau: sleep 15m && ifup eth0 ? |
| 11:01.56 | tarzeau | cstljau: sell it and get something real |
| 11:02.55 | cstljau | tarzeau, that was very helpful |
| 11:03.12 | tarzeau | cstljau: the sleep one? |
| 11:03.30 | tarzeau | cstljau: i've never seen an usb device that needs 15 minutes to work... worst one was at max. 5 seconds |
| 11:03.51 | cstljau | tarzeau, til now that was also my experience |
| 11:05.05 | hackeron | hey, I dist-upgraded to sid and no I see GPG Error: public key not available for unstable (and I get the same thing for testing and stable), am I doing something wrong? |
| 11:05.32 | hackeron | s/no/now |
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| 11:10.06 | liable | hackeron: read the changelog for apt. |
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| 11:16.03 | hackeron | liable: ok, just did, couldnt find anything to help me solve the problem, can you be more specific where in the changelog the solution is? |
| 11:16.08 | riscos | hm... i have litle problem with my sound |
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| 11:16.15 | riscos | anyone help me |
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| 11:16.43 | riscos | Can't open default sound device! |
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| 11:17.01 | riscos | how i config this device |
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| 11:17.25 | nkuttler | riscos: what is the exact error? |
| 11:17.49 | riscos | ShadoW:/mnt/hda1/windows/Desktop# mpg123 01.sakis\ rouvas-ola\ kala.mp3 |
| 11:17.49 | riscos | High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. |
| 11:17.49 | riscos | Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. |
| 11:17.49 | riscos | Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! |
| 11:17.49 | riscos | THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! |
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| 11:18.09 | riscos | mpg123 can`t find the sound driver |
| 11:18.10 | nkuttler | riscos: /msg dpkg paste |
| 11:18.30 | nkuttler | riscos: what happens when you cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp? |
| 11:18.52 | sparr | can anyone here get to http://docs.kde.org or http://kate.kde.org ? |
| 11:18.54 | marcodv | hello. I was upgrading a woody to sarge, by following the official docs, using a ssh connection. unfortunately something went wrong (no idea what) and the connection was lost during package configuration :(. Now I have direct access to the machine... how can I continue the upgrade process? should I simply enter the upgrade command again? (aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade) |
| 11:18.54 | riscos | bash: /dev/dsp: No such device |
| 11:19.03 | riscos | i have alsa.... |
| 11:19.04 | riscos | but... |
| 11:19.07 | riscos | nothing |
| 11:19.21 | tarzeau | anyone for some #bub-n-bros playing? get it from here http://bub-n-bros.sf.net/ |
| 11:19.22 | hackeron | riscos: did you install alsa-utils? |
| 11:19.30 | cahoot | riscos: try odprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 11:19.32 | riscos | only alsa-base |
| 11:19.37 | cahoot | riscos: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 11:19.47 | bbrazil | marcodv: should do. also next time use 'screen' |
| 11:19.53 | riscos | modprobe: Can't locate module snd-pcm-oss |
| 11:20.12 | cahoot | riscos: compile your own kernel+ |
| 11:20.18 | cahoot | riscos: compiled your own kernel? |
| 11:20.27 | riscos | no |
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| 11:20.41 | riscos | why.... |
| 11:20.47 | cahoot | riscos: did you run alsaconf+ |
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| 11:20.54 | marcodv | bbrazil: ok thx I'll try. what do you mean by "use screen"? |
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| 11:21.00 | kimo | can wget get from multiple sources ? |
| 11:21.00 | hackeron | liable: are you referring to apt-key update? - if so, I ran that and it says "is the debian-keyring package installed?" and exits, and it is installed. Any ideas? |
| 11:21.02 | riscos | cahoot yes |
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| 11:21.06 | riscos | but... nothing |
| 11:21.14 | riscos | can find |
| 11:21.15 | riscos | my sound |
| 11:21.19 | liable | hackeron: run update again |
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| 11:21.32 | cmdKeen | Aeterm ignores ~/.Xdefaults file for me, any ideas why ? |
| 11:21.46 | cmdKeen | s/Aetern/aterm/ |
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| 11:22.10 | hackeron | liable: ran apt-get update and saw the same GPG errors, apt-key update, again asks for the debian-keyring package |
| 11:22.20 | cahoot | riscos: what kernel? |
| 11:22.34 | riscos | 2.4.21 |
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| 11:22.44 | riscos | but i don`t have kernel image |
| 11:23.01 | riscos | becouse in this hdd i have litle memory |
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| 11:23.05 | liable | hackeron: never had problem s with it myself, /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 11:23.18 | hackeron | liable: ok, thanks |
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| 11:23.24 | marcodv | bbrazil: I think man screen has given me some hint. thx anyway, going to try reissuing the upgrade command. |
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| 11:23.51 | cahoot | riscos: so you installed alsa-modules and alsa-utils ? |
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| 11:24.13 | riscos | yes |
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| 11:24.32 | cahoot | riscos: what sound card? |
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| 11:24.52 | riscos | ESS 1869 |
| 11:25.35 | cahoot | riscos: it might be the 'old' oss module for the card still is loaded - check with lsmod |
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| 11:25.59 | riscos | ShadoW:/mnt/hda1/windows/Desktop# lsmod |
| 11:25.59 | riscos | Module Size Used by Not tainted |
| 11:25.59 | riscos | soundcore 3204 0 (autoclean) |
| 11:26.52 | cahoot | riscos: have you rebooted after running alsaconf? |
| 11:27.28 | riscos | yes |
| 11:27.31 | riscos | but... nothing |
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| 11:27.45 | riscos | i thing this is from kernel-image |
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| 11:28.33 | cahoot | riscos: long time since I used a 2.4 kernel - but I suspect soundcore is for oss - not alsa- might interfere |
| 11:28.48 | riscos | now... i install new kernel image 2.4.27 |
| 11:28.50 | riscos | and see |
| 11:28.53 | ubuntu_ | I have a big problem: The system will not boot anymore, and GRUB gives me ERROR 17, can you tell me what to do ? If it is possible to install GRUB again ? |
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| 11:29.22 | riscos | ubuntu_ MBR partimage |
| 11:29.23 | riscos | :P |
| 11:29.29 | tarzeau | ubuntu_: you have ubuntu? |
| 11:29.37 | riscos | I have this problem too |
| 11:29.46 | ubuntu_ | I am from a live CD |
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| 11:29.50 | keyes | hello |
| 11:29.54 | tarzeau | ubuntu_: debian doesn't make live cds |
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| 11:30.14 | tarzeau | ubuntu_: but yes in a live cd, chroot to the mounted disk and run grub-install disk |
| 11:30.22 | riscos | tarzeau bg debian :) project :) |
| 11:30.27 | riscos | this is live debian cd |
| 11:30.39 | ubuntu_ | tarzeau thx, let's see |
| 11:30.45 | riscos | search in source forge bg debian and see |
| 11:30.51 | woodland | hi |
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| 11:31.03 | liable | riscos: no, there arent any official debian live cd's |
| 11:31.03 | woodland | what packages should i install for xine to play mp3 files |
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| 11:32.19 | riscos | how i secure more my debain |
| 11:32.35 | keyes | i want automatize the installation of blackdown, how can i skip the screen where I must accept the Sun's licence (or how can I tell apt to use a GNOME interface at place of the ncurse dialog)? |
| 11:32.42 | abrotman | !secure debian |
| 11:32.42 | dpkg | secure debian is, like, at http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/host_security/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
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| 11:32.59 | SimonRaven | oh there ya go. i was just about to look for that |
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| 11:33.20 | riscos | but i lont to limit my user access becouse any user have access in root dir |
| 11:33.28 | abrotman | !secure debian |
| 11:33.28 | dpkg | it has been said that secure debian is at http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/host_security/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
| 11:33.36 | SimonRaven | ^^^^ |
| 11:33.42 | abrotman | !harden debian |
| 11:33.47 | abrotman | !debian-harden |
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| 11:33.53 | abrotman | bah .. it's inthere somewhere |
| 11:33.55 | abrotman | !listkeys harden |
| 11:33.57 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'harden' by key (4): hardening ;; harden ;; hardencrypt ;; harden-doc. |
| 11:34.02 | abrotman | read all those :) |
| 11:34.22 | riscos | tnx abrotman |
| 11:34.38 | riscos | !harden-doc |
| 11:34.39 | dpkg | from memory, harden-doc is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html#contents |
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| 11:34.54 | SimonRaven | yeh, that's the one i was thinking about |
| 11:34.59 | Silent_al | :P |
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| 11:35.15 | abrotman | SimonRaven: they are the same doc :) |
| 11:35.21 | SimonRaven | there's also the harden-* packages |
| 11:35.23 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 11:35.47 | abrotman | yay? |
| 11:36.01 | SimonRaven | well, welcome |
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| 11:36.25 | SimonRaven | i have bugs to look up |
| 11:36.40 | riscos | how i install new kernel im my debiaN? |
| 11:36.54 | Silent_al | ty |
| 11:36.55 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 11:36.55 | dpkg | refcard is probably http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 11:37.03 | darren | apt-get install new-kernerl |
| 11:37.20 | riscos | w0w..... |
| 11:37.24 | darren | !apt |
| 11:37.24 | dpkg | apt is, like, the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. Apt kicks ass. Unless you referring to Sun's 'Annotation Processing Tool', which ... does not 'kick ass.' |
| 11:37.26 | riscos | and new |
| 11:37.34 | tiggas | hello! how can i teach X to use resolution 1024x768? |
| 11:37.39 | resiak | !drxx tiggas |
| 11:37.40 | dpkg | tiggas: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:37.50 | riscos | darren but... version |
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| 11:38.47 | tiggas | thx, people! see later! |
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| 11:39.31 | darren | riscos:which version do you use now? |
| 11:39.56 | riscos | hm... i don`t know |
| 11:40.00 | riscos | how i see this? |
| 11:40.07 | abrotman | uname -r |
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| 11:40.13 | encompass | ls |
| 11:40.16 | encompass | oops |
| 11:40.17 | encompass | haha |
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| 11:40.31 | encompass | shows I am in console tooooo much |
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| 11:40.37 | resiak | Is it sunday yet? |
| 11:40.44 | encompass | not where I am' |
| 11:40.56 | cappiz | when i do a df -h i get the result and this line here in the middle of the output: df: `/.dev': No such file or directory why is that? |
| 11:41.37 | encompass | I wanted to thank everyone here for helping me get my computer to boot again it really shows you guys know yourstuff |
| 11:41.40 | encompass | thansk |
| 11:41.47 | abrotman | resiak: permasunday |
| 11:41.53 | encompass | !beer everyone |
| 11:41.57 | riscos | 2.4.26-1-386 |
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| 11:42.25 | riscos | w0w... problem |
| 11:42.26 | riscos | Setting up alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386 (1.0.8+2) ... |
| 11:42.26 | riscos | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o |
| 11:42.27 | abrotman | and what kernel do you want ? |
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| 11:42.43 | abrotman | riscos: what kenrel do you want ? |
| 11:42.43 | riscos | 2.4.2* |
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| 11:42.52 | abrotman | you want a 2.4 kernel ? |
| 11:43.01 | brosioz | how could i permit to my user alex to write in /var/www ? |
| 11:43.22 | abrotman | change the group .. add him to that group |
| 11:43.23 | encompass | add him to the group www or what ever group that is |
| 11:43.32 | riscos | chown alex /var/www/ |
| 11:43.42 | riscos | abrotman see for alsa |
| 11:43.43 | riscos | Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded). |
| 11:43.43 | riscos | isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... |
| 11:43.43 | riscos | isapnp: Card 'ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive' |
| 11:43.44 | riscos | isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total |
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| 11:44.21 | abrotman | riscos: WHAT kernel do you want ? |
| 11:44.32 | brosioz | abrotman, encompass how could i add to group www ? |
| 11:44.45 | riscos | abrotman 2.4.27 |
| 11:44.47 | brosioz | group alex www-data |
| 11:44.49 | brosioz | ? |
| 11:44.56 | abrotman | riscos: isn't that what you have? |
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| 11:45.12 | riscos | 2.4.26 |
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| 11:45.22 | encompass | brosioz I use users and groups in your system tools |
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| 11:45.39 | Silent_al | btw i know ALSA is having problems with kernel 2.4 .. |
| 11:45.44 | encompass | look in there and ye shall find |
| 11:45.48 | abrotman | you could use .. adduser ? |
| 11:46.00 | abrotman | riscos: do you really? |
| 11:46.11 | abrotman | riscos: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4-386 |
| 11:46.16 | Silent_al | say, how do i prevent ESD from loading @ startup? |
| 11:46.17 | encompass | I don't know user administration very well... jsut me |
| 11:46.28 | abrotman | Silent_al: remove it :) |
| 11:46.28 | brosioz | adduser alex www-data |
| 11:46.28 | brosioz | Adding user `alex' to group `www-data'... |
| 11:46.28 | brosioz | Done. |
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| 11:46.34 | Silent_al | no no |
| 11:46.37 | brosioz | but |
| 11:46.40 | brosioz | after |
| 11:46.41 | brosioz | groups |
| 11:46.42 | brosioz | alex dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev |
| 11:46.43 | Silent_al | i want it to stay |
| 11:46.47 | abrotman | brosioz: logout/in |
| 11:47.02 | Silent_al | but i need to kill it after startup in order to use it with |
| 11:47.04 | Silent_al | BMP |
| 11:47.08 | encompass | thanks... I didn't know any of this user stuff |
| 11:47.13 | encompass | see ya guys |
| 11:47.16 | encompass | !bye bye |
| 11:47.17 | dpkg | Cya, bye |
| 11:47.28 | row2 | haha |
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| 11:47.57 | brosioz | abrotman, it's the same |
| 11:48.04 | brosioz | i can't write in var/www |
| 11:48.04 | brosioz | :| |
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| 11:48.35 | Silent_al | any1? |
| 11:48.35 | riscos | abrotman Setting up kernel-image-2.4-386 (101) ... |
| 11:48.48 | riscos | is this finish? |
| 11:48.53 | riscos | to install new kernel? |
| 11:49.34 | abrotman | riscos: reboot |
| 11:49.42 | abrotman | brosioz: you logged out of X too ? |
| 11:50.15 | adi_ | do anyone knows maple ? |
| 11:50.20 | adi_ | hm |
| 11:50.22 | abrotman | it's a tree |
| 11:50.22 | adi_ | does anyone know maple ? |
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| 11:51.20 | abrotman | !info maple sarge |
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| 11:51.55 | adi_ | !info maple sarge |
| 11:51.59 | Phated | The tree? The syrup? |
| 11:52.05 | Bilbo | who's new to debian here, like in intalled it 1st time < 2 weeks ago |
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| 11:52.20 | caphuso | he's probably talking about the CAS, although i don't know why he would do so in #debian |
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| 11:52.27 | Bilbo | installed |
| 11:52.35 | abrotman | Bilbo: why? |
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| 11:53.04 | Phated | CAS? |
| 11:53.06 | Silent_al | so how do i prevent ESD from loading @ startup? without removing it :P |
| 11:53.13 | caphuso | Phated: computer algebra system |
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| 11:53.21 | Phated | Ah. |
| 11:53.23 | Silent_al | whcih file do i need to edit? |
| 11:53.27 | Silent_al | which* |
| 11:53.28 | phantom_ | hi all |
| 11:53.50 | phantom_ | any one using latest bogofilter from testing |
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| 11:53.57 | Bilbo | to get someone on my own level here, I'm also having trouble with sound card, pctel modem |
| 11:54.14 | abrotman | Silent_al: uninstall it .. you really don't need it |
| 11:54.21 | xoz | isn't it that /var/www is owned by root:root? |
| 11:54.30 | abrotman | probably |
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| 11:54.51 | Silent_al | arrrgh! i dont want to remove it :-\ |
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| 11:54.54 | cmdKeen | Silent_al: What about rcconf ? (just a guess...) |
| 11:54.56 | abrotman | Bilbo: you'd want another noob helping you ? |
| 11:55.06 | abrotman | Bilbo: anyways .. please ask your questions |
| 11:55.07 | rescos | abrotman hm... big problem new kernel can`t boot |
| 11:55.10 | rescos | kernel panic |
| 11:55.14 | Silent_al | alright , thanx i'll google 4 it |
| 11:55.14 | abrotman | rescos: such as ? |
| 11:55.21 | Silent_al | !rcconf |
| 11:55.21 | dpkg | it has been said that rcconf is a frontend to the update-rc.d |
| 11:55.34 | rescos | becouse can`t find mount image |
| 11:55.37 | XTF | Hi. I changed my locale by editing /etc/environment but know I get errors about it. :) I guess that's not the right way. Could anyone tell me what is the right way? |
| 11:55.38 | abrotman | what? |
| 11:55.44 | abrotman | rescos: did you even install it ? |
| 11:55.50 | rescos | yes |
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| 11:55.57 | abrotman | can't find mount image ? |
| 11:55.59 | rescos | default=Linux |
| 11:55.59 | rescos | image=/vmlinuz |
| 11:55.59 | rescos | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.00 | rescos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:56.06 | caphuso | XTF: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 11:56.07 | abrotman | rescos: STOP flooding |
| 11:56.12 | rescos | ok |
| 11:56.16 | abrotman | !paste |
| 11:56.16 | dpkg | i heard paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
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| 11:56.56 | rescos | ok what i do now? |
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| 11:57.15 | abrotman | boot the old kenrel ? |
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| 11:57.43 | rescos | yes |
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| 11:58.49 | rescos | abrotman do you lon`t to add a user for you and see ? |
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| 11:59.02 | abrotman | what? |
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| 11:59.41 | rescos | nothing.... |
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| 12:00.19 | abrotman | what nothing!? |
| 12:00.39 | rescos | how i boot this new kernel? |
| 12:00.50 | abrotman | does the old one work ? |
| 12:00.52 | resiak | Silent_al: You want to stop esd running? Why not just, erm, take it out of your session, or, if you're using Gnome (as I rather suspect that you are), just disable it using the handy "Sound" control panel thingy? |
| 12:01.11 | ShahID | HI! Please tell what to reconfigure to use another screen resolutions? |
| 12:01.18 | rescos | old work yes but new? |
| 12:01.44 | abrotman | rescos: i need an error to tell you what's wrong |
| 12:01.45 | cmdKeen | !drxx |
| 12:01.45 | dpkg | from memory, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:01.54 | abrotman | !drxx ShahID |
| 12:01.55 | dpkg | ShahID: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:02.00 | ShahID | ok, thanks |
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| 12:02.24 | rescos | how i install xwindows system now? |
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| 12:02.34 | resiak | !install x |
| 12:02.34 | dpkg | hmm... install xf4 is apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about "set up x", or "configure xf4" |
| 12:02.37 | resiak | !faq rescos |
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| 12:02.38 | dpkg | rescos: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 12:02.51 | Karnaugh | trying to remember the name of a tool i was told about once |
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| 12:03.00 | Karnaugh | which gives you like verbose details on copying a file |
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| 12:03.25 | Karnaugh | rcp or something, but that doesnt exist |
| 12:03.42 | resiak | $copy-command -v ? |
| 12:03.50 | cmdKeen | Karnaugh: cp --verbose ? |
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| 12:04.23 | Karnaugh | cmdKeen: no |
| 12:04.37 | Karnaugh | it gives the rate and progress |
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| 12:06.57 | cmdKeen | s/don't knows/doesn't know/ |
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| 12:07.37 | SimonRaven | buffer |
| 12:07.41 | Silent_al | resiak i just want it to not load @ startup , coz right now i need to kill it in order to get multimedia apps to call esd again and work properly |
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| 12:08.37 | resiak | Silent_al: It only loads when you log into Gnome (I'm assuming you're using Gnome?). You _do_ _not_ _need_ it. |
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| 12:09.22 | adi_ | what's the best between gnome and kde ? |
| 12:09.36 | caphuso | adi_: try both. decide for yourself |
| 12:09.53 | Bilbo | I like KDE |
| 12:09.58 | abrotman | i like gnome |
| 12:09.59 | abrotman | see |
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| 12:10.01 | abrotman | try both |
| 12:10.05 | resiak | I like goats. |
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| 12:10.20 | abrotman | caphuso: but you use DR17 :) |
| 12:10.36 | adi_ | isn't there a one which is way faster than the other ? |
| 12:10.42 | caphuso | abrotman: what's "DR17"? |
| 12:10.46 | resiak | adi_: Try both. |
| 12:10.47 | abrotman | adi_: yeah .. but not gnome/kde/E17 |
| 12:10.50 | abrotman | caphuso: E17 |
| 12:10.59 | caphuso | abrotman: urgh |
| 12:11.01 | adi_ | what's E17 ? |
| 12:11.02 | abrotman | hehe |
| 12:11.06 | resiak | adi_: Then try a bunch of WMs, try XFce4, GNUstep, etc etc etc |
| 12:11.08 | abrotman | !enlightenment |
| 12:11.08 | dpkg | ask me about E |
| 12:11.11 | abrotman | !E |
| 12:11.11 | dpkg | i heard e is from memory, e is a silly bulky, overdone wm, or still the best looking window manager around. and smaller than windowmaker in memory, or of course, smaller than windowmaker isn't saying much. see sawfish. see MDMA, or 2.7182818284590452353602874713526625, or kicks ass, or a very versatile window manager, or *utter* shite |
| 12:11.20 | resiak | dpkg: no, enlightenment is <reply> see e |
| 12:11.20 | dpkg | okay, resiak |
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| 12:13.23 | Karnaugh | its yet another desktop GUI that fails to be an iota as good as Ion3 :P |
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| 12:16.37 | XTF | Hi. What is the difference between find -name 'xcc *.sql.gz' and -wholename '/home/olaf/backups/xcc *.sql.gz' when pwd is /home/olaf/backups? |
| 12:16.49 | XTF | (the last one doesn't work) |
| 12:16.57 | SimonRaven | !e |
| 12:16.57 | dpkg | e is, like, from memory, e is a silly bulky, overdone wm, or still the best looking window manager around. and smaller than windowmaker in memory, or of course, smaller than windowmaker isn't saying much. see sawfish. see MDMA, or 2.7182818284590452353602874713526625, or kicks ass, or a very versatile window manager, or *utter* shite |
| 12:17.00 | SimonRaven | ok |
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| 12:17.13 | joedj | XTF: the former will recurse into subdirectories |
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| 12:17.37 | XTF | joedj: Ah. But why does the second not generate results (that are in the pwd)? |
| 12:18.16 | Silent_al | !smart |
| 12:18.16 | dpkg | i heard smart is the opposite of stupid, or the opposite of straightforward and polite, or what I definitely am, or "Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology" used by some hard drive manufacturers to detect imminent drive failure, or see the smartmontools package. |
| 12:18.37 | joedj | XTF: don't know, my find doesn't support -wholename at all |
| 12:18.49 | joedj | XTF: perhaps wholename doesn't support glob patterns, for you |
| 12:20.31 | XTF | joedj: What would you advise to make the find independent of the cwd? |
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| 12:21.10 | joedj | XTF: find /home/olaf/backups -name 'xcc *.sql.gz' |
| 12:21.27 | woodland | hi |
| 12:21.30 | XTF | Ah, thanks. |
| 12:21.58 | woodland | can xine play windows media formats |
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| 12:22.28 | [Deek] | with non-free windows codecs, yes |
| 12:22.34 | woodland | hmm |
| 12:22.36 | Pixels- | MPlayer |
| 12:22.43 | Pixels- | you need their w32 codecs |
| 12:23.02 | woodland | Pixels-, can i play win media formats with xine |
| 12:23.12 | woodland | with codecs of course |
| 12:23.14 | Pixels- | if you get the codecs installed |
| 12:23.29 | Hendric | can anyone tell me how to add a shutdown option on my debian network install + xfce4 |
| 12:23.38 | woodland | Pixels-, where can i get these codecs |
| 12:23.42 | abrotman | !mplayer |
| 12:23.42 | dpkg | well, mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 12:23.47 | Hendric | i can logout but no shutdown or reboot option (greyed out) |
| 12:24.21 | woodland | so which xine package should i install |
| 12:25.20 | wickedpuppy | anyone knows where can i find dictionary files ? |
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| 12:25.23 | resiak | Hendric: The manual tells you. |
| 12:25.28 | wickedpuppy | not on the web .. i mean in the system |
| 12:25.54 | Hendric | resiak, which manual?? |
| 12:26.06 | manas | Hendric, that is in the dm config files |
| 12:26.11 | resiak | Hendric: The xfce4 manual |
| 12:26.13 | resiak | manas: You lie. :) |
| 12:26.20 | abrotman | woodland: just install xine .. then grab the win32codec package and instal it |
| 12:26.58 | manas | resiak, yup. i do. |
| 12:27.10 | resiak | Hendric: If you're running the Etch version of XFce4, read /usr/share/xfce4/doc//C/xfce4-session.html |
| 12:27.21 | woodland | abrotman, ok |
| 12:27.33 | resiak | Hendric: If you're using the Sarge version, I _think_ that you just have to be able to run sudo shutdown. |
| 12:28.01 | woodland | abrotman, should i use apt-get to install xine |
| 12:28.06 | abrotman | yes |
| 12:28.14 | woodland | ok |
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| 12:29.29 | Hendric | i did a sarge network install.. then apt-get xfce4 xserver-xfree86 x-window-system-core xdm -> then i got the XFCE4 GUI.. i can logout but the reboot and shutdown options are greyed out. if i logout.. the XDM login screen doesn't have a shutdown option too.. |
| 12:29.43 | resiak | Hendric: Read the XFce DOCUMENTATION!!111 |
| 12:30.13 | resiak | Hendric: /usr/share/doc/xfce4-session/README tells you!! |
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| 12:31.34 | srid | check out - http://simility.com/ .. It's a Firefox toolbar that gives you recommendations over webpages |
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| 12:32.04 | liable | srid: and we care? |
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| 12:32.27 | srid | liable: I know you don't care |
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| 12:32.40 | valdyn | !spam |
| 12:32.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
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| 12:32.53 | srid | ok, sorry ppl |
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| 12:33.56 | abrotman | !spamsmite valdyn |
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| 12:34.21 | Silent_al | lol |
| 12:34.22 | SimonRaven | !abrotmansmite abrotman |
| 12:34.32 | woodland | abrotman, just installed xine-ui uisng apt-get , how do i know where the executable file is stored |
| 12:34.55 | resiak | abrotman: They always pick on you! |
| 12:35.01 | resiak | woodland: dpkg -L xine-ui; man dpkg |
| 12:35.01 | SimonRaven | um somewhere in your $PATH is very likely... |
| 12:35.05 | abrotman | woodland: you don't have to .. just type xine<tab><Tab> to see what options there are . i think it's called xine-ui though |
| 12:35.07 | Silent_al | !GTA |
| 12:35.08 | woodland | ok |
| 12:35.22 | Silent_al | !life |
| 12:35.22 | dpkg | Life? Don't talk to me about life. |
| 12:35.34 | Silent_al | !why not? |
| 12:35.34 | dpkg | because I don't like you |
| 12:35.51 | Silent_al | !i dont like you either |
| 12:35.57 | Silent_al | :P |
| 12:36.02 | resiak | Silent_al: /msg the bot, please. |
| 12:36.21 | Silent_al | np |
| 12:36.43 | woodland | resiak, with that command i get a huge tree, i want to know the exact path of executable xine file |
| 12:36.52 | SimonRaven | which xine-ui |
| 12:37.25 | SimonRaven | hehehe |
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| 12:39.15 | fgeek | YES, WE KNOW THAT ChanServ LIKES YOU hah :) |
| 12:39.29 | woodland | i want to put icon on desktop for xine player , so i want to know exact path of the xine player's executable command, how do i do that |
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| 12:39.40 | resiak | woodland: which xine-ui |
| 12:39.40 | SimonRaven | 'which xine-ui' |
| 12:39.52 | woodland | resiak, thanx |
| 12:40.01 | resiak | woodland: Don't thank me, thank SimonRaven. |
| 12:40.19 | SimonRaven | damn, no "the one i just installed". would've been funny |
| 12:40.20 | woodland | ok |
| 12:40.20 | phantom_ | any one using latest bogofilter from testing |
| 12:40.24 | resiak | !anyone use |
| 12:40.25 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 12:40.45 | SimonRaven | i bet /usr/bin |
| 12:41.20 | SimonRaven | !find bin/xine-ui |
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| 12:41.47 | woodland | abrotman, while ago you were mentioning abt these win codecs, now i have installed xine, where do i get these codecs |
| 12:41.53 | resiak | !w32codecs |
| 12:41.53 | dpkg | from memory, w32codecs is a package not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 12:42.19 | xoz | !qball am i correct? |
| 12:42.19 | dpkg | maybe |
| 12:42.24 | woodland | !w32codecs |
| 12:42.25 | dpkg | from memory, w32codecs is a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 12:42.41 | Silent_al | !oss |
| 12:42.41 | dpkg | i guess oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
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| 12:42.49 | resiak | woodland: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 12:42.49 | Eiscreme | hi |
| 12:42.53 | abrotman | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb |
| 12:42.54 | woodland | ok |
| 12:43.23 | Eiscreme | is there a way to save EVERY sound to an MP3 or WAV file? Sounds from programs like xmms, sounds that come from programs, the voices from Skype |
| 12:43.26 | SimonRaven | !halloween text |
| 12:43.30 | Eiscreme | all sounds should be saved for 10 minutes |
| 12:43.34 | SimonRaven | @halloween text |
| 12:43.35 | ravenbird | http://www.linux.org.uk/~davej/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt-devel |
| 12:44.04 | Silent_al | sorry resiak :\ 4giot] |
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| 12:44.08 | Silent_al | 4got* |
| 12:44.10 | cahoot | Eiscreme: yes - arecord and lame in teamwork f ex |
| 12:44.13 | xoz | Eiscreme: streamtuner + streamripper... |
| 12:44.23 | abrotman | !halloween |
| 12:44.23 | dpkg | abrotman, the Halloween Papers are available at http://www.opensource.org/halloween/ |
| 12:44.44 | Eiscreme | cahoot, xoz: Thank you |
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| 12:45.01 | Eiscreme | xoz: how exactly does the streamripper stuff work? I only found out how to rip a stream with dstreamripper |
| 12:45.05 | woodland | dpkg, hi that marillat site is confusing |
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| 12:45.06 | dpkg | Many greetings, that marillat site is confusing, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 12:45.07 | ixi | Hi. Is it possible somehow to affect JPEG quality using ImageMagick's CONVERT utility? I got too huge images of size 100x100 - about 54kb each. |
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| 12:45.12 | Eiscreme | xoz: I need to save a Skype conversation |
| 12:45.14 | SimonRaven | hehehe |
| 12:45.14 | abrotman | woodland: i gave you the link |
| 12:45.16 | abrotman | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb |
| 12:45.18 | abrotman | woodland: ^^ |
| 12:45.28 | woodland | ok |
| 12:45.36 | abrotman | ixi: did you read the man page for it ? |
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| 12:46.13 | ixi | abrotman: sure, can't fint anything usefull there |
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| 12:46.15 | xoz | Eiscreme: well, streamripper is only for streaming media. try apt-cache search recorder |
| 12:46.27 | Eiscreme | ok |
| 12:46.36 | Eiscreme | cahoot: I tried arecord .... I did it like this: |
| 12:46.38 | Eiscreme | arecord foo.wav |
| 12:46.43 | Eiscreme | then I played an MP3 in xmms |
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| 12:46.48 | nkuttler_ | ixi: read it again, search for quality |
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| 12:46.54 | Eiscreme | the recorded wav is there ... but it seems to have no content |
| 12:47.03 | Eiscreme | I cannot hear anything when I play the recorded wav |
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| 12:47.49 | ixi | nkuttler: sorry, I found it :)) |
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| 12:49.08 | woodland | abrotman, i got that package , how do i install it ? |
| 12:49.11 | cahoot | Eiscreme: like this for a resluting mp3: arecord -f S16_LE -c1 -r 22050 -t wav -d 600 -D hw:0,0 | lame -m m --bitwidth 16 -s 22.05 - - | cat > /home/<user>/`date+%d%b%y%H%M%S`.mp3 |
| 12:49.20 | abrotman | dpkg -i pkgname |
| 12:49.25 | woodland | ok |
| 12:49.25 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 12:49.25 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
| 12:49.59 | cahoot | Eiscreme: -d 600 - denotes 600s recording - adjust as needed |
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| 12:50.26 | SimonRaven | .... |
| 12:50.38 | Eiscreme | cahoot: oh wow ... did you just tell me 2 different things or do I need to copy your line exact how you said? |
| 12:50.44 | Eiscreme | the | between seems to seperate them |
| 12:50.44 | SimonRaven | fricking spam bots |
| 12:50.52 | Eiscreme | the one is arecord, the other one lame |
| 12:50.58 | Eiscreme | should I copy all how you wrote it? |
| 12:51.04 | Eiscreme | or seperate it at the | ? |
| 12:51.07 | woodland | abrotman, i did use that command and it seems that everything went pretty well. now where are these codecs installed ? any ideas? |
| 12:51.11 | ismael | which app do you suggest to put a jpg as root background --using openbox wm |
| 12:51.15 | cahoot | Eiscreme: yes the wav is piped to lamefor encoding to mp3 |
| 12:51.25 | SimonRaven | Eiscreme: man bash, /REDIRECTION |
| 12:51.29 | abrotman | woodland: in some directory :) |
| 12:51.38 | abrotman | woodland: xine should know about them the next time you load it |
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| 12:51.44 | woodland | ok |
| 12:51.46 | nvz | Eiscreme: | is the pipe char, tells it to take the output of one program and pipes it to the input of another |
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| 12:52.02 | gregmon-pterando | hi |
| 12:52.19 | cahoot | Eiscreme: -D hw:0,0 means it's using you first (or only) sound device |
| 12:53.12 | gregmon-pterando | Does Debian have madwifi "yet"? ;) I'm a semi-n00b who needs wireless but is obstinately lazy to make-install from scratch |
| 12:53.27 | nvz | cahoot: and you could have used $HOME or /home/$USER which are defined in the shell instead of two redirects which dont at all have the effect you were going for |
| 12:53.31 | SimonRaven | !laziness |
| 12:53.32 | dpkg | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 12:53.32 | woodland | abrotman, with these codecs can i play all win media formats ? |
| 12:53.34 | resiak | !tell gregmon-pterando -about madwifi |
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| 12:53.50 | abrotman | woodland: probably not all .. but a large number |
| 12:53.54 | w3rdn4 | does the USPS deliever mail on saturdays? |
| 12:53.59 | nvz | cahoot: also there isnt a command called date+... that I know of |
| 12:54.12 | abrotman | w3rdn4: yes |
| 12:54.19 | Eiscreme | cahoot: it did not work |
| 12:54.22 | gregmon-pterando | Eh, it's a political laziness-- choosing a distro that's polite to less-experienced n00bs. Seriously for widespread aceptance of linux |
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| 12:54.43 | nvz | umm, what is the "YES, WE KNOW THAT ChanServ LIKES YOU |
| 12:54.43 | Eiscreme | I wrote the line you said ... and nothing has been recorded ... no mp3 file is there |
| 12:54.47 | nvz | " stuff about? |
| 12:54.48 | resiak | gregmon-pterando: I don't see your point. |
| 12:54.50 | rndr | hi, how can i unzip a zipfile? on debian sarge? someone? |
| 12:54.52 | Eiscreme | cahoot: I wrote into the shell: |
| 12:54.57 | resiak | nvz: The freenode haxxing last night? |
| 12:54.57 | Eiscreme | arecord -f S16_LE -c1 -r 22050 -t wav -d 600 -D hw:0,0 | lame -m m --bitwidth 16 -s 22.05 - - | cat > /home/user/mywav/`date+%d%b%y%H%M%S`.mp3 |
| 12:55.00 | nvz | rndr: with unzip |
| 12:55.01 | resiak | rndr: unzip |
| 12:55.01 | woodland | abrotman, i just tried to play video from CNN website , it s asking me to get the pluggin |
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| 12:55.06 | Eiscreme | and in /home/user/mywav/ is nothing |
| 12:55.07 | xoz | nvz: chanserv was pwned |
| 12:55.07 | rndr | k |
| 12:55.10 | rndr | tanks |
| 12:55.15 | nvz | resiak: whats that got to do with chanserv liking me :P |
| 12:55.28 | resiak | nvz: ChanServ booted everyone from #debian :) |
| 12:55.30 | nvz | xoz: oh. I didnt know that |
| 12:55.36 | rndr | nvz : bash: unzip: command not found |
| 12:55.43 | resiak | !installit |
| 12:55.44 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 12:55.44 | resiak | rndr: ^^ |
| 12:55.55 | nvz | resiak: ty I was just about to say that. |
| 12:56.06 | xoz | nvz: very amusing.. all including opps were booted out for more than 5 minutes... |
| 12:56.07 | w3rdn4 | how fast is US priority mail? |
| 12:56.12 | rndr | hmm |
| 12:56.13 | cahoot | Eiscreme: start with just the recording part - arecord -f S16_LE -c1 -r 22050 -t wav -d 600 -D hw:0,0 some.wav |
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| 12:56.27 | traveller | is anybody here able to give me some idea as to what might have happened to my ubuntu upgrade? i asked in #ubuntu a few times to no avail. I just upgraded from hoary to breezy but some of the apps won't start, the overall performance is sluggish, it freezes when trying to access the internet but not the internal network, and sometimes it just randomly freezes. i'd hate to reinstall the whole thing... |
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| 12:56.44 | resiak | !ubuntu |
| 12:56.44 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 12:56.45 | gregmon-pterando | hey dkpg, I'm willing to apt-get, or synaptic. But I am in reality making a political statement for the grannies of the world. Is madwifi on Debian? |
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| 12:56.51 | xoz | nvz: they have to use the backup copy of services. |
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| 12:56.52 | resiak | gregmon-pterando: /msg dpkg madwifi |
| 12:57.13 | abrotman | woodland: becuase they require a stupid in-browser plugin that doesnt' even work right in windows |
| 12:57.20 | abrotman | w3rdn4: depends .. why ? |
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| 12:57.28 | resiak | gregmon-pterando: READ EET. Specifically the bit abouth "to install madwifi drivers" |
| 12:57.34 | rndr | resiak: Also ask me about <search>., what does the bot mean?. |
| 12:57.47 | rndr | he knows where to download? |
| 12:57.49 | SimonRaven | rndr: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:57.55 | xoz | !tell rndr about search |
| 12:58.01 | gregmon-pterando | thanks resiak. |
| 12:58.05 | nvz | resiak: I noticed I was booted, just didnt know why. lilo said it was ab attack |
| 12:58.20 | w3rdn4 | I need something quick from the usps that was sent priority mail on the 13th |
| 12:58.24 | gregmon-pterando | um, but where would I put that /msg |
| 12:58.35 | Eiscreme | cahoot: perfect ... I got a WAV file ... one last problem please: The quality is VERY bad |
| 12:58.42 | nvz | xoz: yeah I guess I didnt read it that well. I was off to work last night when I seen it |
| 12:58.44 | Eiscreme | cahoot: what may I do to make it record better? |
| 12:58.47 | resiak | gregmon-pterando: Into your IRC client |
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| 12:59.34 | xoz | nvz: we were up and then suddenly, most channels were inoperable... only #freenode is available for a while. |
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| 13:00.51 | gregmon-pterando | Sorry, I've actually got two Kanotix HDD installs. Considering switching to Debian if I don't have to make-install madwifi and recompile the kernel, etc. |
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| 13:01.37 | cahoot | Eiscreme: try arecord -f cd -t wav -d 600 -D hw:0,0 some.wav |
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| 13:02.44 | nvz | haha. this can't be serious |
| 13:02.45 | resiak | gregmon-pterando: Well, that factoid tells you how to do it for Sarge. We can't support Kanotix, as you know. |
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| 13:04.20 | dos000 | while logged in a machine i did ssh-keygen -t rsa </etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key> and then "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" but it complains "sshdCould not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key" any idea ? |
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| 13:05.14 | dos000 | i also added -f to keygen (whithout the gt and lt signs of course) |
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| 13:05.48 | dos000 | i am afraid if i do a reboot i can be tosted |
| 13:06.10 | xoz | dos000: ssh-keygen -t rsa > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 13:06.13 | resiak | dos000: Wrong permissions? |
| 13:06.19 | dos000 | i am root |
| 13:06.47 | nvz | this GNAA is hilarious I thought this was just a joke first time I heard of it.. but these idiots are for real |
| 13:06.56 | dos000 | the file is generated correctly with a passphrase .. it just does not reboot ssh |
| 13:07.40 | Trajan | i have a pb for launching soft in root gedit i have one error message Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified (gedit:26892): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 13:08.08 | Trajan | i can run gedit as user but i need root rights to edit one file |
| 13:08.15 | asg | Trajan: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 13:08.21 | initiate | are az otivam da piq kafe |
| 13:08.22 | xoz | Trajan: use sudo |
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| 13:08.30 | initiate | ... wrong server |
| 13:08.31 | KillerBunny | how can i test if a program prints something in the concol when i run it, eg for a bashscript ? |
| 13:08.36 | Trajan | thx asg and xoz |
| 13:08.50 | dos000 | xoz, it says Enter file in which to save the key (/root/.ssh/id_rsa): ??? is it going in "/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key" or not |
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| 13:09.51 | xoz | dos000: i think no |
| 13:10.17 | dos000 | xoz, ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key which should work ! |
| 13:10.38 | tyranix | dos000: Passphrase? You don't use a passphrase with a host key. That's probably what the error message is about. You would use a passphrase with a public key for a user. |
| 13:10.41 | SpamHog | is there a safe way of copying a system while it's running? I'm running into problems with /proc (duh!) |
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| 13:10.46 | Eiscreme | cahoot: its better but still not 1:1 the same quality ... please tell me how to make it be exact the same quality as the played mp3 in xmms |
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| 13:11.13 | Golfgeo | Hi all |
| 13:11.15 | dos000 | tyranix, so i should not put a passphrase then ? |
| 13:11.35 | tyranix | dos000: This is from OpenBSD's /etc/rc when it generates it for the first time (sorry, I knew where it was offhand): /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -q -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N '' # <-- Notice -N '' = no password. |
| 13:11.38 | row2 | SpamHog: if your using rsync or tar exclude /proc |
| 13:11.58 | dos000 | tyranix, you save the day |
| 13:12.29 | SpamHog | row2: ah! I pored over man cp looking for an exclude clause... :( now I know better |
| 13:12.35 | SpamHog | thanks! |
| 13:12.56 | row2 | SpamHog: np |
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| 13:13.30 | liable | dos000: are you trying to make a key for yourself for that server? |
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| 13:15.03 | gregmon-pterando | thanks resiak. Just wondering how hard it would be for Debian IF I were to go back to it. politically speaking, wireless ease is my #1 hangup |
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| 13:15.09 | dos000 | liable, i was given this machine with no fingerprint. i want to make sure no one is between me and the machine. just my cripled mind |
| 13:15.20 | cahoot | Eiscreme: any conversion mp3 -> wav -> mpr3 will sound progressively worse |
| 13:15.54 | dos000 | liable, this first time identification is so fragile ! |
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| 13:15.59 | Eiscreme | cahoot: how would you record an MP3 then? |
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| 13:16.07 | KillerBunny | how can i test if a program prints something in the concol when i run it, eg for a bashscript ? |
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| 13:16.12 | Eiscreme | cahoot: an MP3 is playing .. how should I record it as mp3 |
| 13:16.17 | cahoot | Eiscreme: I wouldn't ;9 |
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| 13:17.28 | Golfgeo | What is the easiest way to copy all the partitions from an old HD to a new HD? Going from 60gig to 120 gig's and want the same partitions on the new one as on the old so I can add partitions later on... |
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| 13:18.20 | Golfgeo | extra -> Have partition magic here on windows, but was thinking of using a debian install cd to do it on the target machine... |
| 13:18.24 | Eiscreme | cahoot: thank you so far |
| 13:18.29 | Eiscreme | have a nice day, I need to go |
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| 13:18.37 | xoz | Golfgeo: parted? |
| 13:19.07 | SpamHog | jeez, I just discovered that NetBSD uses GNU/Linux swap. We should get parimutual! |
| 13:19.19 | Golfgeo | xoz, isn't that the easy partition creaton tool for the installer (But doesn't copy data??) |
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| 13:19.56 | asg | !sing sussudio |
| 13:19.57 | michal_ | god almighty.. i'm going to go nuts if i have to translate this awk script to python.. is there any tool which can automate the process? |
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| 13:20.14 | asg | michal_: there are tools to migrate awk to perl; dunno about python |
| 13:20.24 | xoz | Golfgeo: allows copying for the entire filesystem |
| 13:20.29 | michal_ | how abourt perl to python then? :/ |
| 13:20.47 | asg | michal_: not sure |
| 13:21.10 | Golfgeo | xoz, hmm, going to read the man page, brb :-) |
| 13:21.42 | xoz | Golfgeo: run parted then type help |
| 13:21.54 | Golfgeo | xoz, will do |
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| 13:22.02 | xoz | Golfgeo: you can move or copy between partitions |
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| 13:22.14 | asg | !ops adas spamming the channel |
| 13:22.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: adas spamming the channel |
| 13:22.17 | liable | what the hell is that? |
| 13:22.19 | xoz | Golfgeo: or even resize partition |
| 13:22.23 | asg | liable: morons |
| 13:22.44 | liable | asg: heh |
| 13:22.46 | nvz | !ops adas [n=aaaa@bzq-82-81-66-128.red.bezeqint.net] is spamming |
| 13:22.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: adas [n=aaaa@bzq-82-81-66-128.red.bezeqint.net] is spamming |
| 13:23.11 | nvz | asg: I didnt even notice you did that while I was typing :P |
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| 13:23.39 | Golfgeo | xoz, it's looking good, thanks mate :-) |
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| 13:24.19 | asg | nvz: :) |
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| 13:24.56 | nvz | I just ate a bunch of powered donus before realizing that wasnt what I wanted |
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| 13:25.12 | nvz | s/donus/donuts/ |
| 13:25.28 | TheNationalist | How do I force the downgrade of a package? |
| 13:25.29 | nvz | er.. excuese me |
| 13:25.40 | nvz | they are donettes |
| 13:25.40 | xoz | TheNationalist: we are listening.... |
| 13:25.46 | TheNationalist | I installed something with a .deb |
| 13:25.53 | TheNationalist | a newer version og libc6 |
| 13:25.59 | liable | eww |
| 13:26.00 | dos000 | what would you run between ext3 or reiserfs on a production system ? |
| 13:26.05 | TheNationalist | how can i downgrade that to the version in repository? :( |
| 13:26.05 | abrotman | a what? |
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| 13:26.15 | liable | dos000: ext3 |
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| 13:26.27 | xoz | TheNationalist: downgrade libc? |
| 13:26.31 | TheNationalist | yea |
| 13:26.31 | abrotman | TheNationalist: download it .. dpkg -i ? |
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| 13:26.39 | TheNationalist | abrotman hm.. |
| 13:26.40 | TheNationalist | yea |
| 13:26.40 | meff | why would you use ricerfs in a production environment :P |
| 13:26.42 | TheNationalist | i guess i could |
| 13:26.51 | xoz | TheNationalist: well, lots of packages depend on it. |
| 13:26.53 | liable | maybe. |
| 13:26.55 | nvz | s/in a production environment// |
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| 13:27.13 | TheNationalist | xoz yea it's a mess. i'll just manually download the version in the repository and dpkg -i it |
| 13:27.18 | TheNationalist | will that work? |
| 13:27.27 | xoz | !provides libc6 |
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| 13:27.31 | dpkg | libc6: glibc-2.3.5-3 |
| 13:27.31 | manas | clear |
| 13:27.32 | manas | ls |
| 13:27.38 | TheNationalist | thanks |
| 13:27.39 | manas | shit!! sorry |
| 13:27.53 | meff | why the hell did you update libc6 with a deb outside of the repository? |
| 13:28.25 | TheNationalist | long story. no need to get into it here |
| 13:28.33 | dos000 | liable, thanks. does it make a difference if you use a sw raid on top of it ? |
| 13:28.36 | meff | TheNationalist: don't do it again. :) |
| 13:28.37 | xoz | TheNationalist: it's like going from sid back to sarge... |
| 13:28.44 | abrotman | meff: fun and profit ? |
| 13:29.15 | meff | abrotman: y'know these newer libc6's show 20% speed improvement!#@$ :P |
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| 13:29.26 | xoz | TheNationalist: you can force install the old one but you have to backup just in case. |
| 13:29.26 | TheNationalist | well, no packages depend on the newer libc6 version as of now |
| 13:29.27 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:29.35 | TheNationalist | how do i force it |
| 13:29.59 | meff | TheNationalist: apt-cache policy the pkg, then apt-get install pkg=veryouwant |
| 13:30.21 | xoz | dpkg --force-all --install <package> |
| 13:30.30 | TheNationalist | thanks |
| 13:30.51 | meff | be careful with forcing.. i'd try apt-get'ing it first |
| 13:30.54 | sabin | how can i use the sarge install disc as a rescue disc? |
| 13:31.12 | liable | dos000: nup |
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| 13:31.20 | meff | sabin: type 'rescue' at the boot prompt |
| 13:31.20 | asg | sabin: boot till you get to the first menu, CTRL+F2 |
| 13:31.27 | asg | s/CTRL/ALT/ |
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| 13:31.53 | sabin | alright, off to try it, any clue why that's not documented in the boot options? |
| 13:32.23 | batlogg | hello, i'm trying to copy a >2GB file from a gentoo box to a debian nfs server and it fails because the file is too big. however i can create files >2b on both machines. any suggestion? |
| 13:32.35 | meff | old nfs ver? |
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| 13:32.45 | abrotman | batlogg: uhm .. i'm not sure nfs supports >2GB |
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| 13:32.59 | Ireul | hi |
| 13:33.10 | meff | abrotman: surely you kid me that nfs still has that limitation? |
| 13:33.18 | Ireul | please I've got a problem with kde + arts... system notifications won't work |
| 13:33.21 | abrotman | meff: nfc .. i haven't used nfs in a while |
| 13:33.30 | abrotman | shfs!! |
| 13:33.30 | asg | Ireul: try #debian-kde |
| 13:33.38 | Ireul | asg: ok |
| 13:33.40 | Ireul | asg: tx |
| 13:33.42 | dos000 | meff, whats wrong with scp |
| 13:33.42 | nevyn | meff: I think in nfs v3 it's implementation dependant |
| 13:33.55 | nevyn | dos000: the crypto |
| 13:34.00 | batlogg | abrotman, meff - what's a better option than nfs? |
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| 13:34.11 | abrotman | batlogg: for what? |
| 13:34.16 | meff | depends batlogg |
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| 13:34.50 | batlogg | copying files to a backupserver, but have it accessiable via a mountpoint |
| 13:34.57 | meff | heh |
| 13:34.59 | woodland | what voip people use here |
| 13:35.07 | meff | why does it need to be accessable via a mountpoint? |
| 13:35.16 | meff | look at rsync |
| 13:35.18 | abrotman | batlogg: rsync ? |
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| 13:35.29 | batlogg | i don't have enough space to have a local copy, and i don't want to keep the disc too busy |
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| 13:35.51 | meff | now you're not making sense heh |
| 13:35.53 | abrotman | rsync is bad ? |
| 13:35.57 | abrotman | but nfs is ok ? |
| 13:36.05 | batlogg | abrotman: yes |
| 13:36.06 | meff | :x |
| 13:36.08 | woodland | is there any equivalent of skype in debian |
| 13:36.27 | abrotman | gnomemeeting? gizmo? skype? |
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| 13:36.37 | abrotman | batlogg: why exactly ? |
| 13:36.40 | meff | it boggles my mind how much resources rsync uses over nfs!! |
| 13:36.48 | woodland | abrotman, do u use gnomemeetinh |
| 13:36.48 | abrotman | meff: bad joke! |
| 13:36.53 | abrotman | woodland: i don't |
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| 13:36.58 | abrotman | !gnomemeeting |
| 13:36.58 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gnomemeeting is a H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the Gnome Desktop |
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| 13:37.16 | abrotman | woodland: gnomemeeting is like uhm .. that silly app for windows .. netmeeting |
| 13:37.27 | valdyn | woodland: why dont you use skype for debian? |
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| 13:37.39 | xoz | !info skype |
| 13:37.46 | asg | !skype |
| 13:37.46 | dpkg | skype is, like, a non-free (beer) voip application that is cross platform. See http://www.skype.com/, or based on proprietary, closed-source protocols |
| 13:37.47 | abrotman | xoz: not official |
| 13:37.50 | woodland | valdyn, IS SKYPE available for debian |
| 13:37.53 | xoz | heh |
| 13:38.00 | valdyn | woodland: on www.skype.com |
| 13:38.02 | abrotman | woodland: YES it IS |
| 13:38.02 | xoz | woodland: from their website |
| 13:38.05 | woodland | ok |
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| 13:38.25 | batlogg | abrotman: i'm "hot" backuping some big zope databases... therefor i use a special python-script that duplicates the database ("repozo.py") it's fine to duplicate it to a mounted nfs share. but i don't have enough space to make a local copy and move it with rsync later. and the machine is under load, i don't want to add more write activity during backup as necessary |
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| 13:38.45 | meff | netcat it |
| 13:38.50 | abrotman | batlogg: is transfer speed an issue ? |
| 13:39.16 | abrotman | he could use shfs .. but it'd be slow |
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| 13:39.23 | ramy | I have a package that complains about unmatched dependecies , but when I force installation it works fine. The problem is that apt-get keeps complaining about this package after that, is there a way to tell apt to ignore that forever ? |
| 13:39.23 | Ireul | please I've got a problem with kde + arts... system notifications won't work |
| 13:39.23 | batlogg | abrotman: not really. the boxes are connected with 100mbit. but i'm copying 40GB every night |
| 13:39.24 | abrotman | !shfs |
| 13:39.24 | dpkg | hmm... shfs is http://shfs.sourceforge.net/ "Mount ANY dir from ANY host in the SECURE way"SHFS is a simple and easy to use Linux kernel (2.4+) module which allows you to mount remote filesystems using plain shell (ssh/rsh) connection. It supports some nice features like number of different caches for access speedup, target system optimisations, etc. |
| 13:39.40 | xoz | ramy: remove it |
| 13:39.50 | d301471 | hello, how to check glibc version from console? |
| 13:39.52 | woodland | i just installed real, helix players and w32codecs, but i am unable to play music at http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/1q3m_BZ9C9.As1NMvHdW/ but i can play the same music in windows, |
| 13:39.54 | abrotman | ramanujan: and that's why you shouldn't force deps :) |
| 13:39.59 | asg | d301471: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 13:40.01 | abrotman | d301471: |
| 13:40.02 | abrotman | bah |
| 13:40.04 | batlogg | abrotman: i found that shfs and ftpfs use a lot of cpu during copy... |
| 13:40.19 | abrotman | batlogg: well .. you've got some decisions to make :) |
| 13:40.20 | batlogg | abrotman: but it looks like this is the only option |
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| 13:40.24 | meff | pipe it to netcat, batlogg |
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| 13:40.31 | d301471 | thx:) |
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| 13:40.42 | abrotman | yeah .. netcat isn't a horrible idea |
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| 13:40.52 | valdyn | batlogg: you probably want to use a method that doesnt use encryption? |
| 13:40.53 | abrotman | but should be just as cpu intensive as ftpfs |
| 13:41.04 | valdyn | batlogg: surely shfs HAS to use alot of cpu b/c it encrypts |
| 13:41.04 | asg | d301471: /lib/libc.so.6 (also works) |
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| 13:41.33 | batlogg | yes, i don't need encryption. but probably i can use blowfish for shfs |
| 13:41.43 | ramy | xoz: what if I really need it ? |
| 13:41.49 | valdyn | batlogg: if ftpfs though uses "alot" of cpu that might not be ftpfs fault |
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| 13:42.00 | abrotman | could be dma ? |
| 13:42.01 | SimonRaven | arcfour is high encryption, and rather economical i've found |
| 13:42.22 | batlogg | netcat looks interesting too |
| 13:42.22 | valdyn | batlogg: but your shitty disk controller hardware ( or its driver ) |
| 13:42.37 | SimonRaven | blowfish could be another choice, like you mentioned |
| 13:42.52 | meff | hmm |
| 13:42.54 | d301471 | asg > big thx meen |
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| 13:43.22 | meff | saturn ascends, choose 1 or 10.. |
| 13:43.27 | xoz | ramy: /msg dpkg equivs |
| 13:43.36 | abrotman | 4 |
| 13:43.45 | batlogg | thanks for your input guys |
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| 13:43.48 | Ireul | solved |
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| 13:44.02 | asg | The web sucks. It is a mighty dismal kludge built out of a thousand tiny dismal kludges all band-aided together, and now these bottom-line clueless pinheads who never heard of "TCP handshake" want to run *commerce* over the damn thing. Ye godz. Welcome to TV of the next century -- six million channels of worthless shit to choose from, and about as much security as today's cable industry! (from /usr/share/doc/netcat/examples/scripts/web |
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| 13:44.22 | abrotman | asg: hehe |
| 13:44.24 | sabin | can anyone tell me if now is a good time to upgrad from sarge to sid? (is there any Major breakage I should know about before trying?) |
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| 13:44.32 | SimonRaven | asg: indeed |
| 13:44.33 | asg | abrotman: that guy's awesome |
| 13:44.42 | Bjerrk | Hi. Is it possible to execute 32-bit apps in the AMD64 bit Debian "port" |
| 13:44.52 | abrotman | sabin: can you fix sid if it breaks ? |
| 13:44.54 | asg | Bjerrk: #debian-amd64 |
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| 13:45.06 | Guerin | sabin: the best time to upgrade from sarge to sid is immediately before you quit your job |
| 13:45.06 | Bjerrk | asg: thanks |
| 13:45.10 | sabin | abrotman, yeah i ran sid for like 2 yrs before sarge came out |
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| 13:45.29 | abrotman | sabin: afaik .. nothing too major .. unless kde is broken again .. |
| 13:45.33 | xoz | sabin: so far so good |
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| 13:45.34 | Guerin | sabin: lemme guess ... when sarge was released, you upgraded all your sid boxes to it? |
| 13:45.37 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel sid |
| 13:45.38 | sabin | abrotman, i'm just wondering if somehting would just stop working.. |
| 13:45.39 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 363 kB, Installed size: 860 kB |
| 13:45.45 | Ireul | asg: solved with http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/6074/System-Notification-Sounds.html |
| 13:45.47 | abrotman | oh .. i guess gnome2.12 will be coming in soon |
| 13:45.52 | sabin | Guerin, no i just formatted i needed a fresh install |
| 13:45.57 | asg | Ireul: good |
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| 13:46.11 | sabin | Guerin, but now it turns out i'm better off with Xorg |
| 13:46.13 | abrotman | needed .. a fresh install ? |
| 13:46.19 | abrotman | !xorg sarge |
| 13:46.19 | dpkg | xorg sarge is probably http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ for sarge backports of the xorg packages. Use at your own risk. |
| 13:46.22 | Guerin | sabin: xorg is in etch |
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| 13:46.32 | xoz | sabin: but don't rely on gnome and kde for your wm |
| 13:46.34 | Guerin | what is this 'frsh install' of which you speak? |
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| 13:46.47 | Guerin | i haven't heard that talk since i ran windo^Wred hat |
| 13:47.02 | asg | Guerin: a veritable douche for your motherboard perhaps? |
| 13:47.04 | sigwada | how could i get a gnome-bittorent in ubuntu? |
| 13:47.07 | sigwada | pls help |
| 13:47.11 | meff | Guerin: its after your shower when you put on your pants |
| 13:47.11 | SimonRaven | foreign concept. i've only once done it, and that's when i was still very much a newbie |
| 13:47.13 | Ireul | asg: but why the control center didn't set it right???? |
| 13:47.14 | sabin | Guerin, well after running a sid machine for a LONG time very hectically and having done "make install" on a random number of random apps, there was crap everywher |
| 13:47.15 | asg | sigwada: ask #ubuntu |
| 13:47.15 | Guerin | !htfswk sigwada |
| 13:47.19 | dpkg | sigwada: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 13:47.20 | SimonRaven | sigwada: #ubuntu |
| 13:47.22 | Guerin | sabin: haha |
| 13:47.27 | asg | Ireul: not a clue. I've never run KDE. |
| 13:47.46 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 13:47.50 | sabin | Guerin, i mean debian in no way was forcing me to reinstall, all was running, it's just i needed to clear it up a bit |
| 13:47.51 | sigwada | sori |
| 13:47.51 | asg | ah, thanks |
| 13:47.56 | Guerin | meff: what are these 'pants' of which you speak? |
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| 13:48.03 | sori | ..? |
| 13:48.05 | sigwada | putang ina nyo nagkamali lng me |
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| 13:48.22 | Guerin | sigwada: keep your putang to yourself |
| 13:48.26 | tarzeau | i can't believe bash.org is still down |
| 13:48.28 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 13:48.28 | dpkg | <veleno> Guerin: i don't know what a moron is. |
| 13:48.34 | ranjeeth | how to mount flopy dirve & pen drive |
| 13:48.35 | meff | hahahha |
| 13:48.51 | asg | ranjeeth: mount /floppy ; /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 13:48.57 | xoz | sigwada: how's the philippines? |
| 13:49.04 | TheCamper | I have a parititioning question: I'm using Slackware right now on an 80 gig hard drive called hdb. hdb1 is the first partition, which is reiserfs, and hdb2 is my swap parition. I want to try out debian, but without destroying my Slackware partition. So I need to resize my hdb1 partition to about 60 gigs and have 20 left over for Debian. Does resize_reiserfs destroy data or no? |
| 13:49.08 | SimonRaven | could be /media/floppy too |
| 13:49.13 | tarzeau | !supermount |
| 13:49.14 | dpkg | from memory, supermount is a nice patch to the kernel that the mandrake developers are working on currently. it allows to change a cd while it is mounted, which is VERY useful in wine. a patch that works for a 2.4.18 kernel can be found at http://espectro.hypermart.net/supermount.patch. README can be found at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/8144/supermount.README.txt, or see http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net |
| 13:49.14 | SimonRaven | s/too// |
| 13:49.15 | asg | SimonRaven: yeah could be |
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| 13:49.44 | Guerin | TheCamper: given reiserfs's typical robustness, you should back up anything you care about even a little bit |
| 13:49.49 | meff | TheCamper: look at parted or something... i forgot its name, but its a partition program that can resize some fs' |
| 13:50.12 | meff | but yes, ricerfs is known to lose data :P |
| 13:50.17 | Ireul | asg: bye and tx |
| 13:50.19 | xoz | tarzeau: |
| 13:50.24 | TheCamper | Guerin: I've backed up all critical data, but I still would rather not lose everything. |
| 13:50.31 | xoz | TheCamper: try parted |
| 13:50.31 | ranjeeth | i get the error msg---------------mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified |
| 13:50.34 | tarzeau | xoz: |
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| 13:50.41 | Guerin | TheCamper: heh, if that was true, you'd have chosen a different filesystem :) |
| 13:50.42 | meff | TheCamper: then why did you use ricerfs? :) |
| 13:50.46 | meff | lol |
| 13:50.47 | TheCamper | meff: I've looked into parted, and there aren't many good guides on resizing reiserfs with it. |
| 13:50.48 | Guerin | ranjeeth: so specify one |
| 13:50.53 | xoz | TheCamper: heh, slip of fingers... ;) |
| 13:50.54 | tarzeau | streuner! |
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| 13:51.00 | tarzeau | xoz: again! |
| 13:51.04 | xoz | hehe |
| 13:51.13 | xoz | damn this tab |
| 13:51.22 | TheCamper | meff: I used reiserfs cause it's awesome. : ) |
| 13:51.28 | Guerin | xoz: just keep sucking, it'll start to work soon |
| 13:51.31 | SimonRaven | !damn tab |
| 13:51.36 | meff | ricerfs != awesome |
| 13:51.48 | Guerin | TheCamper: well, it sure inspired awe in me ... |
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| 13:51.55 | tarzeau | xoz: you know what's funny, when you check google pictures for slip of finger or finger slip you get |
| 13:52.00 | tarzeau | http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-08/25/xinsrc_070801251315501200887.jpg |
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| 13:52.06 | meff | its not awesome to have your reiserfsck segfault and then realize it fucked over your filesystem ;) |
| 13:52.14 | SimonRaven | eh |
| 13:52.25 | amphi | meff: indeed not |
| 13:52.29 | TheCamper | I don't want to get into a flame war about reiserfs. Regardless of it's awesomeness, I was wondering if the utility resize_reiserfs destroys data or not. |
| 13:52.33 | Guerin | tarzeau: wtf |
| 13:52.38 | amphi | meff: especially not when doing --rebuildtree |
| 13:52.45 | tarzeau | Guerin: hey xoz said slip of figner |
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| 13:52.55 | Guerin | tarzeau: dunno. You might be better off asking a distro which uses it by default, like suse or gentoo |
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| 13:52.57 | meff | ricerfs tools tend to like to segfault if ONE THING happens it doesnt know how to handle, and leave you with a pile of rubble.. just my experience!! ;) |
| 13:53.05 | Guerin | TheCamper: see my advice to tarzeau above |
| 13:53.08 | xoz | Guerin: yo too. |
| 13:53.14 | amphi | TheCamper: I would never mess with partitions without backing up |
| 13:53.25 | Guerin | xoz: i know. I suck. |
| 13:53.25 | xoz | tarzeau and TheCamper should swap nicks |
| 13:53.32 | Guerin | amphi: try to keep up. He already has. |
| 13:53.34 | SimonRaven | air |
| 13:53.36 | TheCamper | amphi: I've backed up all critical stuff already. |
| 13:53.53 | spola | how do i do a reverse dns lookup from the command line? |
| 13:53.54 | amphi | meff: the only time I had to rebuildtree, it worked |
| 13:53.57 | amphi | Guerin: ;) |
| 13:54.05 | SimonRaven | spola: host or dig -x |
| 13:54.08 | amphi | spola: host 123.45.67.89 |
| 13:54.12 | spola | thx |
| 13:54.15 | meff | amphi: good for you, it segfaulted on me ;) |
| 13:54.33 | TheCamper | Does Debian not have reiserfs built in? Like....do I get that as a choice on install? |
| 13:54.40 | amphi | meff: followed by much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, I presume ;) |
| 13:54.49 | Guerin | TheCamper: sure you do. Doesn't mean anyone sane uses it. |
| 13:54.53 | amphi | TheCamper: it does, and you can |
| 13:55.01 | Gnea | heh, ricerfs... |
| 13:55.02 | Guerin | TheCamper: default is ext3 |
| 13:55.09 | TheCamper | Ok. Thanks. |
| 13:55.19 | meff | i use xfs mainly now, but do not use xfs w/out a ups! i have apcupsd setup to shut off my box if things go awry when im not home.. xfs is dangerous if you dont have a ups :P |
| 13:55.28 | SimonRaven | the ones i use are all but reiser |
| 13:55.38 | amphi | meff: good to know |
| 13:55.47 | Gnea | APC* |
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| 13:56.14 | meff | amphi: it does write caching .. which helps prevent fragmentation and makes for faster i/o.. however dangerous if your power cuts out or whatnot.. |
| 13:56.18 | TheCamper | I used to use ext3, but I booted slow, and had to do fsck every 22 mounts. Annoying and slow as crap. Ever since Slackware 10.1 came out with reiserfs support, I boot faster and never have to fsck. I've never had any problems with reiserfs either. That's just my experience. Only good things. |
| 13:56.23 | tarzeau | xoz: don't forget ufs |
| 13:56.23 | Gnea | recipe for disaster |
| 13:56.25 | SimonRaven | i've been lucky i suppose. but i was thinking of moving over some more critical stuff to jfs or ext3 |
| 13:56.44 | takatumi | tarzeau: I opened that link and now my wife is mumbling. |
| 13:56.44 | SimonRaven | <3 xfs |
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| 13:56.55 | tarzeau | TheCamper: ever had power failures? |
| 13:57.05 | SimonRaven | been using it since the 2.4 days (yes, those huge patches) |
| 13:57.09 | tarzeau | TheCamper: you can turn off the fscks every n mounts |
| 13:57.11 | caphuso | TheCamper: 1) filesystems don't "boot" and 2) if you don't want an automatic fsck every 22 mounts, then why did you configure it to do so? |
| 13:57.12 | TheCamper | tarzeau: Yes. Several. It's never been a problem. |
| 13:57.28 | clojster | how can I view changelog of some package (and download it) via apt-get (of apt-cache??). Man didn't help... In Synaptic it's easy, but is there a command which does this? |
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| 13:57.36 | caphuso | TheCamper: and if the default settings of ext3 are not what you want to use, then why did you? |
| 13:57.45 | tarzeau | takatumi: before you open links in irc, always make sure nobody but you is watching, tell them to get something from the fridge or look there's something in the sky, whatever |
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| 13:57.51 | tarzeau | takatumi: how long have you been on irc? |
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| 13:58.07 | TheCamper | caphuso: All I know is what I've experienced. And fsck every 22 mounts was the default for slackware. I never messed with it. I never even knew you could mess with it. I'm a linux newbie. |
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| 13:58.18 | takatumi | tarzeau: just got here. |
| 13:58.21 | tarzeau | TheCamper: how large is your filesystem? |
| 13:58.22 | meff | SimonRaven: i am liking xfs too.. its speedy and handles large files very well, its especially useful on my storage drive however proves to be very nice on my / partitions also |
| 13:58.44 | TheCamper | tarzeau: 80 gig hard drive. 500 megs is swap. the rest is reiserfs. |
| 13:58.47 | tarzeau | takatumi: mabye she calms down if you show her this: http://www.atoygarden.com/images/products/SheepRabbitPuppets300.jpg |
| 13:58.56 | tarzeau | TheCamper: 3 or 4? |
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| 13:59.09 | TheCamper | tarzeau: 3. 4 wasn't out at the time I created it. |
| 13:59.15 | meff | oh god dont even get me started on ricer4 |
| 13:59.19 | meff | :) |
| 13:59.25 | TheCamper | Does debian do reiserfs 4? or still just 3? |
| 13:59.28 | caphuso | takatumi: and www.oralse.cx |
| 13:59.31 | tarzeau | hihi |
| 13:59.36 | caphuso | TheCamper: nobody does reiser4 |
| 13:59.53 | TheCamper | caphuso. I guess not. It just now came out. |
| 13:59.53 | valdyn | TheCamper: reiser4 is not in mainline, and not in debian kernels |
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| 14:00.01 | amphi | meff: you've used it? |
| 14:00.18 | takatumi | caphuso: I know that one. :) |
| 14:00.21 | meff | amphi: yes, and it destroys any low-latency that your computer could ever have... |
| 14:00.33 | amphi | meff: great :( |
| 14:00.36 | meff | amphi: i've talked to con kolivas about it muchly, and have tested it. |
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| 14:01.00 | meff | amphi: con writes lowlat patches and a staircase scheduler for 2.6 if you didnt know |
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| 14:01.20 | meff | Linux ghreen 2.6.13-ck8-mt #4 SMP Wed Oct 12 19:14:36 CDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 14:01.23 | amphi | meff: yeah, I used to use his patches on 2.4 |
| 14:01.29 | meff | amphi: cool :) |
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| 14:01.44 | xoz | caphuso: that photo is good. very shallow DOF |
| 14:01.51 | SimonRaven | meff: yup. saved my ass a few times too. though i've had problems with it, i've always been able to recover my data 99-100% of the time |
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| 14:03.04 | meff | amphi: but yeah in general, stay away if you want any sense of low latency on your desktop.. mainly i hear, and have proven it to myself, it uses alot of cpu and it destroys latency. |
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| 14:03.39 | meff | amphi: you can check the ckml archives if you want more info ;) |
| 14:03.55 | tyranix | meff: Hmmm are you saying you can't do low latency with reiserfs? I use it now (never realized there was such a backlash against it :) and when I do certain things such as aptitude update, it will interrupt xmms. |
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| 14:04.15 | meff | tyranix: reiser3 not so much, but definately with reiser4. |
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| 14:04.30 | tyranix | hmm okay, I'm using 3. |
| 14:04.32 | SimonRaven | i bet it's got higher cpu usage than xfs |
| 14:04.38 | SimonRaven | (4) |
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| 14:04.45 | meff | tyranix: well, if you dont want it to get WORSE, stay away from 4 :/ |
| 14:04.54 | tyranix | heh okay, thanks |
| 14:04.56 | valdyn | tyranix: reiserfs doesnt really have more in common with reiser4 beside name and origin |
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| 14:05.36 | meff | SimonRaven: i dont have any lowlat problems or cpu usage issues over xfs that i had on my ricer4 test partition. |
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| 14:05.45 | xoz | what distro is packaging reiser4? none? |
| 14:05.52 | woodland | abrotman, i have real, helix players and now also have w32codecs, but i cant play online music at some sites, e.g. http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/1q3m_BZ9C9.As1NMvHdW/ though i can play this music in windows |
| 14:06.00 | valdyn | xoz: debian |
| 14:06.00 | meff | xoz: none. hans is such a dick he cant get them to mainline it.. |
| 14:06.07 | valdyn | xoz: but that patch is probably aged |
| 14:06.25 | abrotman | woodland: you can try mozilla-mplayer .. but i'm not sure it will work |
| 14:06.27 | tarzeau | meff: i can't wait to get the ufs tools in sid |
| 14:06.33 | SimonRaven | meff: xfs does have a tradeoff - cpu usage is higher on large copies, for instance, than ext3 |
| 14:06.45 | woodland | abrotman, ok |
| 14:06.47 | meff | SimonRaven: yes; no where near ricer4 :x |
| 14:07.04 | SimonRaven | wouldn't know, but i'll take your word for it ;) |
| 14:07.11 | caphuso | meff: is the compression plugin for reiser4 done yet? |
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| 14:07.54 | meff | caphuso: not sure, but if its like the repacker and all other plugins, if you pay hans he'll code it for you!! ;) |
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| 14:08.38 | caphuso | meff: i'm really waiting for it, hans reiser promised that it would everything only half as big and speed up anything by 50% |
| 14:08.50 | SimonRaven | jfs is lower than xfs in cpu usage on stuff like that, then you get ext3, then way down is ext2. on a lot of the tests i saw, the journalling FSes were fairly often tied in cpu usage, or other areas. reiser often did rather badly in more than one area |
| 14:08.50 | woodland | abrotman, i tried to install mozilla-mplayer but i t says that its not installable |
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| 14:09.20 | SimonRaven | article's on linuxgazette.net IIRC |
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| 14:09.35 | meff | caphuso: in your dreams :) |
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| 14:09.37 | tarzeau | woodland: sid? |
| 14:09.41 | wickedpuppy | current stable release is 3.10 ? |
| 14:09.45 | abrotman | !info mozilla-mplaye |
| 14:09.46 | abrotman | !info mozilla-mplayer |
| 14:09.47 | dpkg | mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1 (sid), Packaged size: 379 kB, Installed size: 1180 kB |
| 14:09.54 | abrotman | it's in contrib |
| 14:09.59 | woodland | tarzeau, yup |
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| 14:10.13 | tarzeau | woodland: for what webpage do you need it? |
| 14:10.27 | woodland | playing music at http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/1q3m_BZ9C9.As1NMvHdW/ |
| 14:10.29 | batlogg | abrotman, meff: shfs with blowfish works perfect |
| 14:10.32 | caphuso | meff: hey, that'd be a major breakthrough. not even quantuum computers promise to break out of the "CPU usage vs. compression level" situation we've been stuck in ever since the first compression algorithm :) |
| 14:10.40 | cappiz | to mount windows shares you can use samba.. is there any other one? |
| 14:10.48 | tarzeau | cappiz: no |
| 14:10.53 | cappiz | kk |
| 14:11.05 | xoz | it is the one |
| 14:11.07 | cappiz | is samba a "secure" way to mount shares? |
| 14:11.08 | woodland | tarzeau, i have trouble playing music here , click http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/1q3m_BZ9C9.As1NMvHdW/ |
| 14:11.09 | abrotman | batlogg: yay! :) |
| 14:11.12 | SimonRaven | batlogg: cool |
| 14:11.13 | row2 | anyone know of a decent mp3 tag editor where you can edit a selection of tags ie a whole album to correct a bad album name? |
| 14:11.15 | tarzeau | woodland: yes i understood |
| 14:11.25 | tarzeau | row2: itunes |
| 14:11.36 | caphuso | row2: id3v2 |
| 14:11.41 | nvz | I got this electronic scale that automatically zeros itself and then you step on it and it ways you to the tenth of a pound. however I've seen it say .0 and .5 but never anything else. makes me think its lying. if it were rounding off it wouldnt bother floating any decimals |
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| 14:11.48 | woodland | tarzeau, so what should i do |
| 14:11.53 | valdyn | row2: 'easytag' |
| 14:12.02 | row2 | cheers |
| 14:12.09 | tarzeau | woodland: run in a circle and cry "i'm in trouble! i'm in trouble!" |
| 14:12.25 | xoz | nvz: blame gravity for it |
| 14:12.26 | Gnea | tarzeau: ok, now i'm realing... |
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| 14:12.45 | Gnea | tarzeau: http://www.whitedogpress.com/bixstuff.htm look at the bottom of the page |
| 14:13.04 | SimonRaven | ok, need food |
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| 14:14.23 | nvz | xoz: he's not even here. |
| 14:14.25 | woodland | tarzeau, if u cant help , at least dont abuse others |
| 14:14.31 | nvz | !seen gravity |
| 14:14.31 | dpkg | gravity <n=david@dhcp-130-64-45-70.boston.tufts.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-ops, 13h 11m 38s ago, saying: 'Ubuntu: A Blessing For My Sanity In Disguise!'. |
| 14:14.56 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 14:14.56 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 14:15.00 | xoz | !gravity |
| 14:15.00 | dpkg | gravity rules, or a botaphile, or someone who has a mighty wang of doom, or the pwm pimp, or it pays to discover |
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| 14:16.05 | nvz | I don't know what it is with people and penis envy |
| 14:16.39 | Gnea | tarzeau: item 514 |
| 14:17.01 | tarzeau | Gnea: SHEEP! |
| 14:17.08 | mtnman | nvz: well, techinically female-people... |
| 14:17.11 | Gnea | ha |
| 14:17.15 | tarzeau | Gnea: does it exist in XXL? |
| 14:17.23 | SimonRaven | sheep are for wool, not fucking |
| 14:17.25 | Gnea | tarzeau: ROFL |
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| 14:17.51 | Gnea | Slip this little finger puppet on and you're a child again! |
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| 14:18.25 | tarzeau | Gnea: what if i want a black sheep? |
| 14:18.52 | SimonRaven | then you get black wool |
| 14:19.01 | Gnea | tarzeau: it's a dog, not a sheep |
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| 14:19.26 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 14:19.38 | SimonRaven | Gnea: what about sheep dogs? |
| 14:19.51 | tarzeau | Gnea: heh, i really thought it's a sheep |
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| 14:20.23 | Gnea | tarzeau: i mean, $10 for a piece of cotton to stick the tip of your finger into... |
| 14:20.41 | tarzeau | yeah i can get some nice pair of drugs for $10 |
| 14:20.46 | SimonRaven | i could make one for 3 |
| 14:20.48 | Gnea | tarzeau: the best part? it's shaped like a dog/sheep and the entry point is its anal cavity |
| 14:21.16 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: i would order one from you |
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| 14:21.28 | Gnea | SimonRaven: you could make a killing |
| 14:21.29 | nullvoid | I got my vsftpd running which chroot to the user home folder as in passwd file; the question can I force to chroot into a subfolder in the home dir? |
| 14:21.34 | SimonRaven | that doesn't include my labour ;) |
| 14:21.51 | Gnea | yeah but sell it for $9.50 |
| 14:21.53 | Gnea | ;) |
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| 14:22.01 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: your labour? you mean your wife? |
| 14:22.03 | MrParity_ | hi ho :-) |
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| 14:22.15 | SimonRaven | no, the work i put into it |
| 14:22.39 | Gnea | SimonRaven: don't forget the cool whip |
| 14:22.40 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: like saying "hey jen, can you make me a bunch of these (pointing to the photo)?" |
| 14:23.03 | ranjeeth | i cant write to my mounted hda how can i enable it |
| 14:23.10 | tarzeau | ranjeeth: mount it rw |
| 14:23.26 | tarzeau | ranjeeth: or use the right permissions if you got the wrong filesystem |
| 14:23.28 | Bjerrk | Hmm. How do i make debian use alsa for all sound output and input? |
| 14:23.31 | mtnman | nvz: well, techinically female-people... |
| 14:23.39 | mtnman | oops |
| 14:23.41 | mtnman | why would run-mailcap open a .jpg file fine, but mutt says "No matching mailcap entry found. Viewing as text." ? |
| 14:23.42 | Gnea | Bjerrk: what kernel are you on? |
| 14:23.45 | tarzeau | Bjerrk: you want to do that with software that debian ships |
| 14:23.59 | Gnea | mtnman: what's wrong with female-people? |
| 14:24.00 | Bjerrk | Gnea: 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 14:24.01 | jim | ranjeeth: /msg dpkg sicco (then try a more substantial question :) |
| 14:24.03 | MrParity_ | i have a question about debian installation. i have a running system, but i want to install a second debian in a specific directory (eg. /mnt), how can i do this. or is there a documentation out how debian installation cds work? |
| 14:24.06 | tarzeau | Gnea: no dash |
| 14:24.12 | jim | heya Dave |
| 14:24.15 | mtnman | gnea: i hit up arrow instead of enter. |
| 14:24.16 | mtnman | hi jim |
| 14:24.19 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: ok. i'll give you a bit context. when someone says something like that, what they mean is the time and effort they out into making the object(s). the 'labour' is the amount per hour that the person will make, say, 10-15$/hr or such |
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| 14:24.30 | Gnea | Bjerrk: ok, then tell it not to use oss |
| 14:24.33 | Bjerrk | tarzeau: how? |
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| 14:24.38 | mtnman | jim: did you catch my mailcap question? |
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| 14:24.50 | Bjerrk | and Gnea too: how? |
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| 14:24.52 | Gnea | Bjerrk: alsaconf |
| 14:24.59 | Bjerrk | Gnea: aah :P |
| 14:25.01 | tarzeau | Bjerrk: which software? |
| 14:25.03 | Gnea | :) |
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| 14:25.04 | jim | no; just got here and I never used mailcap |
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| 14:25.13 | Bjerrk | should've thought of that,... |
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| 14:25.23 | SimonRaven | hmm, do i patch this s/w or do i go get some groceries? |
| 14:25.24 | Bjerrk | tarzeau: al software |
| 14:25.28 | Bjerrk | *all |
| 14:25.34 | Gnea | mtnman: dude, you in colorado? |
| 14:25.42 | mtnman | yes |
| 14:26.06 | Gnea | i was behind the most stuck up bitch at a drive thru last nite with co plates |
| 14:26.22 | mtnman | gnea: and that has what do to with anything? |
| 14:26.25 | Stilgar^ | I am loading debian using vmlinuz with loadlin. I can get the installation started, but I don't have a floppy so I am unable to load extra drivers. any suggestions how can I do it? I have a usb connection on the machine |
| 14:26.31 | Gnea | mtnman: she's from colorado :) |
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| 14:26.47 | Gnea | she was buggin' |
| 14:26.52 | mtnman | gnea: well, i'm reasonably sure i have nothing to do with her. |
| 14:26.55 | jim | stuck up bitches are everywhere... or do you think it might be you? :) |
| 14:27.12 | Gnea | mtnman: i know, it was a stupid analogy |
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| 14:27.28 | mtnman | gnea: i don't even see how it was an analogy. |
| 14:27.42 | Gnea | mtnman: i didn't think you would. fogetaboutit |
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| 14:28.03 | mtnman | gnea: unless you were calling me stuck-up... |
| 14:28.04 | nullvoid | guys, anyone play with vsftpd chroot? |
| 14:28.08 | wickedpuppy | anyone knows where can i get a dvd iso for the testing ? |
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| 14:28.18 | Gnea | mtnman: so you're stuck up? :) |
| 14:28.23 | tarzeau | !fsn |
| 14:28.23 | dpkg | i guess fsn is the 3D GUI in Jurassic Park and is available at http://www.sgi.com/fun/freeware/3d_navigator.html, YMMV |
| 14:28.31 | mtnman | gnea: i did not say that. |
| 14:28.34 | tarzeau | wickedpuppy: you can't officially |
| 14:28.35 | asg | nullvoid: there are lots of examples in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/* of how to configure it |
| 14:28.38 | Gnea | mtnman: neither did i |
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| 14:28.51 | wickedpuppy | only official dvd iso ? |
| 14:28.55 | jim | Gnea: so what DID you say? |
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| 14:29.04 | wickedpuppy | testing got 12 cds ... now thats a bit too much |
| 14:29.14 | wickedpuppy | but i wanna get the latest version |
| 14:29.24 | valdyn | wickedpuppy: why do you want the dvd at all when there's netinstall? |
| 14:29.25 | Gnea | jim: i asked him if he was from colorado, he said yes, then i mentioned about my visit to a burger joint last nite |
| 14:29.27 | jim | wickedpuppy: on -cd-? why? |
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| 14:29.31 | tarzeau | wickedpuppy: got internet? |
| 14:29.46 | wickedpuppy | clearly .. netinstall ... hmms .. |
| 14:29.48 | tarzeau | wickedpuppy: the thing with testing is, it changes daily |
| 14:29.53 | tarzeau | wickedpuppy: just like sid, but not so often |
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| 14:30.08 | jim | Gnea: why did you do that? |
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| 14:30.22 | Gnea | jim: felt like it. no harm done |
| 14:30.28 | nullvoid | asg: like I said, I got it chroot to it's home dir, but how to further push it to a spesific folder, I saw doc to chroot an aonymous, please highlight which section to read |
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| 14:30.45 | mork | I am stupid. I just used rm as root, and forgot my home partition was bind-mounted below where I was rm-ing :( How do I dump the (ext3) free space to a file for rescuing later please? |
| 14:30.48 | jim | harm? oh, ok |
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| 14:31.10 | meff | mork: dont think you can.. |
| 14:31.12 | jim | I believe you :) |
| 14:31.14 | mtnman | mork: mc has an undelete function for ext2/3 |
| 14:31.22 | tarzeau | mtnman: you trust it? |
| 14:31.26 | mork | I used rm from a terminal :( |
| 14:31.32 | Gnea | mork: the free space? |
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| 14:31.35 | mtnman | tarzeau: well, it has occasionally worked for me |
| 14:31.37 | cyberneticus | hello everyone |
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| 14:31.45 | cyberneticus | is there a good channel for Debian64 support ? |
| 14:31.46 | xfox | hello |
| 14:31.50 | jim | mork: and was it terminal? :) |
| 14:31.57 | tarzeau | mork: using dd. did you mount it quickly ro? |
| 14:32.03 | asg | nullvoid: use user_sub_token=$USER and make the user's homedir /path/to/$USER |
| 14:32.04 | tarzeau | cyberneticus: here |
| 14:32.11 | cyberneticus | great :D |
| 14:32.14 | mtnman | why would run-mailcap open a .jpg file fine, but mutt says "No matching mailcap entry found. Viewing as text." ? |
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| 14:32.23 | mork | A chrooted root-xterm. I know the inode numbers have been deleted, but i believe I could grep /dev/hda1 for the text? |
| 14:32.36 | cyberneticus | so, here is my question: on Sarge 3.1 r0a I only can select 800x600 mode for my laptop screen. How to fix that ? |
| 14:32.37 | UnWorldly | I have a taboo question, how do I install mplayer |
| 14:32.44 | cyberneticus | I already rerun xf86config but no luck :( |
| 14:32.47 | valdyn | !mplayer |
| 14:32.47 | dpkg | [mplayer] not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 14:32.52 | tarzeau | UnWorldly: it's not a taboo question |
| 14:32.57 | tarzeau | UnWorldly: from source |
| 14:33.02 | mtnman | cyberneticus: your modes need to be changed. |
| 14:33.05 | nvz | I often wish I could choak people through the phone |
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| 14:33.21 | mtnman | nvz: i assume you mean "choke" |
| 14:33.27 | cyberneticus | hmm...how can I change my modes ? |
| 14:33.32 | nvz | probably |
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| 14:33.43 | mtnman | cyberneticus: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:33.47 | joedj | mork: there's 'recover' too |
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| 14:33.54 | jim | cyberneticus: play a different bass note |
| 14:34.04 | tarzeau | nvz: who would you choak then? |
| 14:34.06 | valdyn | cyberneticus: there is no "Debian64", what are you really looking for |
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| 14:34.20 | mtnman | unworldly: i download the tarball and follow the debian instructions in the DOC directory. |
| 14:34.22 | mork | tarzeau: The partition is the root of this system (up and mounted rw). joedj: I apt-get install recover? |
| 14:34.31 | jim | or raise or lower notes of the scale to match a different modal pattern |
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| 14:35.00 | tarzeau | mork: no idea, if i was you i'd be probably pissed and play nethack or go out and do something else |
| 14:35.02 | cyberneticus | didnt't worked :( |
| 14:35.05 | meff | mork: the more you use the fs the more chance your deleted files are being overwritten. |
| 14:35.08 | tarzeau | mork: i'm not sure there's much you can do about your loss of data |
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| 14:35.10 | nvz | these idiots call you.. as in your phone rings, and you pick it up and say hello.. and this recording tells you "Please hold you have an important call ..." wtf!? if its so important wtf did you call me and put me on hold |
| 14:35.20 | mork | thanks |
| 14:35.26 | mtnman | mork: it would not hurt to try mc's undelete |
| 14:35.33 | tarzeau | nvz: at work? |
| 14:35.41 | nvz | no at home |
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| 14:35.57 | mtnman | nvs: i don't get those anymore, but i would routinely hang up as soon as i hear a recording. |
| 14:36.07 | jim | nvz: if it was that important, maybe they shoulda called 911 :) |
| 14:36.28 | mtnman | nvz: what country? |
| 14:36.31 | madarikatua | hola |
| 14:36.43 | MrParity_ | thanks, i found solution is descripted in an appendix of the debian installation document. |
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| 14:36.49 | SimonRaven | nvz: i've gotten those. i followed it once, to see what it was. seems to be some fucked up telemarketing crap |
| 14:36.53 | jim | cola |
| 14:36.54 | nvz | heh. I always get people asking me when I get jobs who to call in case of an emergency and a lot of them think I am trying to be cute when I put 911 on the application |
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| 14:36.59 | mrpickles444 | Is opera on the latest debian apt source list ? |
| 14:36.59 | nvz | fools. |
| 14:37.05 | mtnman | nvz: you appear to be in pa, why not sing up for the do-not-call list? |
| 14:37.22 | nvz | mtnman: *shrug* |
| 14:37.34 | mtnman | *sign |
| 14:37.40 | tarzeau | mrpickles444: no it's not |
| 14:37.44 | valdyn | mrpickles444: no |
| 14:38.05 | mrpickles444 | This makes me very sad |
| 14:38.12 | tarzeau | mrpickles444: why? |
| 14:38.13 | cyberneticus | dpgk -reconfigure xserver -xfree86 right ? |
| 14:38.18 | SimonRaven | no |
| 14:38.18 | mtnman | nvz: if you are seriously bothered by the calls, dnc list is the way to go. |
| 14:38.24 | valdyn | mrpickles444: so why dont you install operas .deb from operas site? |
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| 14:38.28 | tarzeau | mrpickles444: you can always get their .deb and dpkg -i it to screw your system up |
| 14:38.29 | thingfish | mrpickles444: Opera's website has .debs for both sarge and etch. |
| 14:38.33 | mork | mtnman, can't find mc's undelete function. Am using mc version 4.6.1-pre3 (stable i think) |
| 14:38.33 | SimonRaven | s/dpgk -/dpkg-/ |
| 14:38.34 | tarzeau | mrpickles444: that is if you have i386 only |
| 14:38.36 | jim | mrpickles444: you can always build it |
| 14:38.45 | SimonRaven | and s/ -/-/ |
| 14:38.47 | tarzeau | jim: build what? |
| 14:38.49 | mtnman | cyberneticus: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (you had some unwanted spaces) |
| 14:38.55 | liable | cyberneticus: heh, almost.. :) |
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| 14:39.00 | mrpickles444 | hehe Because I've never installed software in linux before outside of some kind of package management system |
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| 14:39.08 | valdyn | !tell cyberneticus -about xmd5 |
| 14:39.10 | jim | if you're sad, is it because everyone can't get it as a package? :) |
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| 14:39.26 | jim | (but apparantly that's not true tho) |
| 14:39.27 | thingfish | cyberneticus: didn't you say you'd tried xf86config? |
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| 14:39.45 | thingfish | if so, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 might not work. |
| 14:39.53 | mtnman | mork: did you try the help function in mc? |
| 14:39.54 | WaxieWhite | how do i change the splash screen in debian? |
| 14:40.00 | tarzeau | WaxieWhite: which? |
| 14:40.05 | wickedpuppy | btw is it possible to upgrade from one version to next without reformatting ? |
| 14:40.11 | WaxieWhite | the splash screen after i log in.. |
| 14:40.12 | tarzeau | wickedpuppy: yes |
| 14:40.16 | tarzeau | WaxieWhite: which? |
| 14:40.30 | jim | wickedpuppy: of debian? absolutely |
| 14:40.41 | wickedpuppy | thanks guys |
| 14:40.44 | mrpickles444 | I was using opera the other day on a friend's windows machine, its very formidable. |
| 14:40.54 | tarzeau | mrpickles444: are you french? |
| 14:40.59 | jim | yeah, I thought it was big too |
| 14:41.01 | mtnman | mork: on the top bar, click "command" |
| 14:41.09 | nullvoid | asg: user_sub_token=$USER in where, I don't find this param in any of the example is't in vsftpd.conf? where can I refer a sample implemantation? |
| 14:41.14 | WaxieWhite | when i boot, i enter username-password...then a splash screen appears..i like to change this splasch cscreen |
| 14:41.15 | mrpickles444 | tarzeau, not the last time I checked |
| 14:41.21 | tarzeau | WaxieWhite: which? |
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| 14:41.38 | WaxieWhite | im using debian sarge.. |
| 14:41.49 | tarzeau | WaxieWhite: which fucking splash screen? |
| 14:41.54 | asg | nullvoid: it's at the bottom of vsftpd.conf(5) |
| 14:41.57 | SimonRaven | WaxieWhite: which splash screen? |
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| 14:42.01 | tarzeau | WaxieWhite: debian sarge has tons of damned splash screens |
| 14:42.02 | valdyn | WaxieWhite: you're not aware that there is multiple desktop environments and multiple login managers and multiple window managrs, are you? |
| 14:42.15 | WaxieWhite | gnome |
| 14:42.21 | tarzeau | and that all splash screens suck ass |
| 14:42.21 | SimonRaven | WaxieWhite : Please ask questions that are Specific, Informative, Complete, Concise, and On-topic. |
| 14:42.33 | jim | WaxieWhite: find out how the splash screen comes on, what program puts it up, then learn how to configure or disable that program |
| 14:42.35 | Gnea | WaxieWhite: #gnome would know better |
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| 14:42.57 | IRCoppix | someone here know where i can find the option grub for modify in knoppix |
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| 14:43.05 | tarzeau | IRCoppix: #knoppix |
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| 14:43.16 | Gnea | !knoppix |
| 14:43.16 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
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| 14:43.36 | tarzeau | does someone use dillo? with the tabs/frames/i18n patched in? |
| 14:43.45 | WaxieWhite | is DSL based on debian? |
| 14:43.46 | IRCoppix | when you install knoppix to hd is debian |
| 14:43.54 | tarzeau | !DSL |
| 14:43.54 | dpkg | well, dsl is Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ |
| 14:44.03 | mork | mtnman, ok, I have dirtree,findfile,swappanels,switchpanels,compdir,externpanelsize,showdirsiz,cmdhist,dirhotlist,activevfslist,bckgdjobs and some edit options |
| 14:44.18 | tarzeau | WaxieWhite: what DSL? |
| 14:44.25 | asg | damn small linux |
| 14:44.26 | WaxieWhite | Damn Small Linux.. |
| 14:44.39 | asg | WaxieWhite: it is based on Debian and we don't support it in here either |
| 14:44.46 | mtnman | mork: still there? |
| 14:44.54 | jim | IRCoppix: the thing is people don't want to have to learn knoppix, ubuntu and all the rest of the debian-based... so it would be hard to support |
| 14:44.54 | mork | ya |
| 14:44.57 | mork | thnks |
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| 14:45.14 | mtnman | mork: man mc and search for "undelete file system" |
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| 14:45.17 | valdyn | Whitman: use gconf-editor, edit splash_image in apps -> gnome_session -> options\ |
| 14:45.20 | ircops | doesn't ubuntu use unstable sources? |
| 14:45.31 | SimonRaven | jim: not so much that, as we'd be swamped anyway, and besides, they're different distros |
| 14:45.32 | nullvoid | asg: I read that, so in vsftpd.conf, should I put user_sub_token=$USER/ftp for all the user automaticly chroot to the 'ftp' subfolder in their home dir? |
| 14:45.38 | IRCoppix | ok here my question , i install knoppix to hd, and before that i have mandriva in hda6 and now i have knoppix in hda5 but in the boot logo i cant have the option to log in mandriva |
| 14:45.47 | valdyn | WaxieWhite: you're not aware that there is multiple desktop environments and multiple login managers and multiple window managrs, are you? |
| 14:45.53 | SimonRaven | WaxieWhite: there's a splash screen manager in debian from gnome |
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| 14:45.54 | meff | does this look like #knoppix, IRCoppix ? |
| 14:45.56 | valdyn | ops sorry |
| 14:46.09 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: i find this hilarious |
| 14:46.14 | SimonRaven | WaxieWhite: s/from/for/ |
| 14:46.14 | mtnman | mork: it details chdir-ing to a special file called "/#undel:<filesystem>" |
| 14:46.15 | asg | nullvoid: try it, it might work. |
| 14:46.17 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: :) |
| 14:46.18 | valdyn | WaxieWhite: see above |
| 14:46.19 | WaxieWhite | how do i configure my debian so that when i boot...i am brought to the command-line instead directly to gnome...just like slackware does.. |
| 14:46.23 | tarzeau | a splash screen (something nobody wants) and the manager for removing it (YUCK) |
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| 14:46.35 | SimonRaven | or changing it |
| 14:46.40 | valdyn | WaxieWhite: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 14:46.41 | mtnman | waxiewhite: remove *dm |
| 14:46.41 | jim | IRCoppix: again... knoppix doesn't normally get supported here. #knoppix is available to you |
| 14:46.45 | SimonRaven | removing it, you just disable it showing |
| 14:46.52 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: is there also something to remove the splashes of kde, openoffice and blender? |
| 14:46.54 | mork | mntman, it only works on ext2, not ext3. Thanks anyway. Will stop using this partion now and try tomorrow. Thanks again |
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| 14:47.02 | mtnman | waxiewhite: that is wdm, gdm, xdm |
| 14:47.19 | mork | will also automate backup on new system! ;) |
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| 14:47.27 | mtnman | mork: ext2 is ext3 with journaling |
| 14:47.31 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: blender might have a pref to disable it. kde has that too, but built into their 'control panel' |
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| 14:47.46 | mtnman | mork: underlying fs of ext3 is ext2. should work. |
| 14:47.53 | jim | mork: yes, a backup plan is a good idea |
| 14:47.56 | tarzeau | i like how consistent this is |
| 14:47.56 | meff | mork: cleanly umount the ext3 partition, then remount with -t ext2 |
| 14:47.57 | SimonRaven | ext3 is a different codebase, but still backwards compatible with ext2 |
| 14:48.20 | caphuso | mtnman: ext3 is a filesystem that happens to use the same on-disk format than ext2 |
| 14:48.35 | nullvoid | asg: not working |
| 14:48.37 | caphuso | that does not make it "ext2 + journaling" |
| 14:48.43 | mtnman | caphuso: so, recovery of ext2 should be same as ext3 |
| 14:48.50 | caphuso | mtnman: except that it isn't |
| 14:48.59 | asg | nullvoid: yeah, I think you are doing something slightly different that what I was doing. Are you just trying to chroot your users into their home directories? |
| 14:48.59 | SimonRaven | it used to be that way, but it diverged since |
| 14:49.02 | caphuso | file deletion works differently on ext2 and ext3 |
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| 14:49.28 | mtnman | caphuso: it has worked for me in the past, although i have not had need to use that function lately. |
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| 14:49.53 | mork | http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html says Q: How can I...undelete...deleted files from my ext3 partition?...Actually, you can't! ...ext3 can safely resume an unlink after a crash, it actually zeros out the block pointers in the inode...ext2 just marks these blocks as unused in the block bitmaps and marks the inode as "deleted" and leaves the block...only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files...and hope for |
| 14:49.53 | mork | the best |
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| 14:50.16 | SimonRaven | backups |
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| 14:50.29 | meff | bummer, mork |
| 14:50.32 | mtnman | mork: i guess you learned an important lesson about rm as root... |
| 14:50.32 | asg | !qotd126 |
| 14:50.32 | dpkg | i heard qotd126 is <helios> sorry for my english: I was rushing on my prompt (silly me!) and just stopped in time an "rm -rf /etc"...but I deleted all /etc/init* files and dirs <asg> helios: restore from backups. <helios> asg, backups? |
| 14:50.33 | mork | ah, just read your last - inGENIOUS! |
| 14:50.42 | mork | very important |
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| 14:50.52 | jim | reading is good :) |
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| 14:51.05 | mork | biggest loss is my evolution layout - all debian lists sorted by developer etc |
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| 14:51.20 | meff | mork: perfect time to learn mutt! |
| 14:51.22 | mork | I have a backup, but its a few weeks old! |
| 14:51.26 | nullvoid | asg: not really, I am trying to chroot them to a subfolder in their home dir |
| 14:51.37 | mork | mutt you say. I still have to learn emacs! |
| 14:51.49 | meff | !bloat |
| 14:51.49 | dpkg | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see <emacs> or <emacs disease> |
| 14:51.55 | jim | mork: maybe you need a differenter plan for backups |
| 14:51.58 | findme | where do i find the difference between kernel versions, 2.6.8 is mine what has been added in 2.6.13? |
| 14:52.03 | colter | I'm trying to send a UDP broadcast with sendto(). Broadcast address is 192.168.1.255. When I run my program, I get "Permission denied". Any hints what I should be looking at? |
| 14:52.07 | asg | nullvoid: oh |
| 14:52.10 | mork | it was a bit silly - evolution spent a lot of resources vfoldering the mails. It was nice while it lasted! |
| 14:52.13 | nvz | could I read linux kernel source in like windows notepad or would I have to reformat it? |
| 14:52.14 | SimonRaven | findme: the kernel changelogs |
| 14:52.15 | meff | colter: try as root |
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| 14:52.35 | colter | meff: same error |
| 14:52.39 | findme | SimonRaven, thanks |
| 14:52.50 | mork | anyway, bye and thanks very much! |
| 14:53.00 | valdyn | nvz: reformat |
| 14:53.07 | nullvoid | asg: any idea how |
| 14:53.25 | valdyn | nvz: ( wordpad might display the linewraps correctly iirc ) |
| 14:53.35 | nvz | valdyn: hmm. ok. |
| 14:53.37 | asg | nullvoid: no, sorry. proftpd might be able to do that though if vsftpd can't. |
| 14:53.54 | fatal__ | findme: http://kernel.org has both changelogs and diffs (if you want to see actual code changes, there's also http://kernel.org/git for viewing individual changes)... but really ALOT has changed between 2.6.8 and 2.6.13... |
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| 14:54.14 | nvz | might start reading source code at work since there isnt much else to do other than watch the robots do their thing |
| 14:54.30 | findme | fatal__, thanks |
| 14:54.43 | asg | nvz: make the robots dance and make rude gestures |
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| 14:56.24 | nvz | they dont have legs, their fingers only open and close.. and I have no idea how to control them. |
| 14:56.52 | asg | nvz: weekend project! |
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| 14:57.10 | nvz | I already have a weekend project making my job easier |
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| 14:57.50 | abrotman | nvz: robbie the robot! |
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| 14:58.12 | nullvoid | asg: or can we hide a folder in vsftpd? |
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| 14:58.58 | xfox | hey folks how can i update from kde 3.3 to a more avnace one =) |
| 14:58.59 | Eiscreme | hi |
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| 14:59.23 | Eiscreme | how can I make tar untar the tar.gz file into a specified directory please? |
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| 14:59.33 | nullvoid | xfox: yes change to windows |
| 14:59.39 | Eiscreme | when I do tar xzvf foo.tar.gz it always untars it to the actual directory |
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| 14:59.47 | mtnman | eiscreme: did you happen to look at man tar? |
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| 15:00.01 | nvz | I think I've gathered enough data to design a program that completes the production cycle allowing me to really do virtually nothing |
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| 15:00.17 | Eiscreme | mtnman: yes - did not find it .. maybe -c but I am not sure |
| 15:00.21 | xfox | nullvoid, >_> |
| 15:00.33 | mtnman | eiscreme: look at the synopsis |
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| 15:00.49 | mtnman | eiscreme: search on "directoryN" |
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| 15:01.24 | Eiscreme | mtnman: how can I search something into manpage? |
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| 15:01.54 | mtnman | eiscreme: no sorry. you were close though... -C (not -c) |
| 15:01.54 | ranjeeth_ | how can i change permission to the mounted hda say read/write |
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| 15:02.02 | nvz | I've tested my theories using the scientific method and got good conclusions. I wish I could find one of my graphing calculators.. may have to buy some kind of small protable pc.. preferably with a RTC my program would go a lot more smoothly with an RTC |
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| 15:02.12 | mtnman | eiscreme: man foo and then whenit opens hit "/" to search |
| 15:02.13 | amphi | Eiscreme: / |
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| 15:02.32 | mtnman | ranjeeth: man mount or man fstab |
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| 15:03.00 | Eiscreme | mtnman: when I press / and then type directory <enter> it finds it one time |
| 15:03.05 | Eiscreme | how can I re-search the word? |
| 15:03.09 | Eiscreme | until the end of document |
| 15:03.19 | amphi | Eiscreme: n |
| 15:03.32 | Eiscreme | thank you! |
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| 15:03.57 | Eiscreme | mtnman: please explain me how to read this manpage synopsis... also when you say its -C ... I cannot understand where to place it |
| 15:03.58 | nvz | my calculator from school which I think I left at Cara's when I moved out didnt have a timer or an RTC. since my programs main function is calculating a schedule the timer/RTC is an imporant part |
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| 15:04.18 | mtnman | eiscreme: in any case, it looks like you want the -C option (capital "C") |
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| 15:05.02 | mtnman | eiscreme: additionally, it sems more info may be found in "info tar" |
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| 15:05.17 | ZeeGeek | kernel-2.6.8 doesn't compile with gcc 4.0 |
| 15:05.21 | Eiscreme | user@3[~]$ info tar |
| 15:05.21 | Eiscreme | bash: info: command not found |
| 15:05.34 | SimonRaven | @installit |
| 15:05.35 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
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| 15:05.57 | nathan__ | hehe |
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| 15:06.19 | nvz | without an RTC or a timer I would have to do all the timing manually and all the program would be doing is the calculations for the scheduler. |
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| 15:07.03 | ZeeGeek | how to change the compiler version from gcc 4.0 to 2.95 in order to get kernel-2.6.8 compiled? |
| 15:07.03 | nathan__ | does anyone know the ipv6 range allocated for private use |
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| 15:08.33 | nvz | that factoid reminds me of that idiot who was in here recently insisting on getting an answer of how to install _every_ package despite the fact I explained repeatedly it was not possible or sensible to do so. |
| 15:08.47 | spoonMan | hola |
| 15:08.54 | abrotman | 'ands off mi chips you right barstard! |
| 15:08.54 | nathan__ | apt-get install * |
| 15:09.05 | nvz | its not possible to install everythin |
| 15:09.12 | spoonMan | hi |
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| 15:09.15 | abrotman | !be british |
| 15:09.15 | dpkg | 'ands off mi chips you right barstard! |
| 15:09.43 | spoonMan | how do check what packages in my debian needs updating...just like how ubuntu can easily does???? |
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| 15:09.56 | abrotman | apt-get update;apt-get -u upgrade |
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| 15:10.03 | abrotman | will show you before you actually upgrade |
| 15:10.09 | ranjeeth_ | HOW TO CHANGE THE PERMISSION FOR THE MOUNTED HDA SAY --- READ/WRITE ANY OUT THERE CAN SUGGEST ME |
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| 15:10.21 | abrotman | ranjeeth_: WHAT YOU SAY? |
| 15:10.23 | asg | ranjeeth_: fix your capslock key first |
| 15:10.24 | valdyn | !caps |
| 15:10.24 | dpkg | Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words put _* on both sides of them. _emphasize_ them. |
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| 15:10.28 | mtnman | ranjeeth: you can find that info in man mount |
| 15:10.28 | spoonMan | wont do..is said..readin package done..nothin more |
| 15:10.39 | nathan__ | ramanujan, man mount man fstab |
| 15:10.52 | nvz | spoonMan: there are no upgrades |
| 15:10.58 | abrotman | !be british |
| 15:10.59 | dpkg | 'ands off mi chips you right barstard! |
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| 15:11.14 | nvz | stfu :P |
| 15:11.15 | spoonMan | i need updated software..in my debian..how can i do that? |
| 15:11.29 | spldart | Is it practically possible for a linux noob such as myself to protect his debian/XP dual boot machine from somebody using say knoppix live or knoppix std to steal debian files? |
| 15:11.42 | spoonMan | where is that file were repos are listed??? i forgoet what that file was.... |
| 15:11.50 | nathan__ | spantiga, encrypted fs |
| 15:11.51 | abrotman | spoonMan: apt-setup |
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| 15:11.59 | nathan__ | oops |
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| 15:12.18 | nvz | spldart: password protect the BIOS and turn off CD booting |
| 15:12.28 | spldart | oooOOooo |
| 15:12.30 | spldart | good one |
| 15:12.36 | abrotman | basic one |
| 15:12.38 | spldart | I'll have to check bios for password ability |
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| 15:13.00 | nvz | spldart: make the bootloader mandatory password for windows, and restricted for linux |
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| 15:13.20 | spoonMan | what does apt-setup do when i chose ftp..and chose a site????? |
| 15:13.28 | spldart | was going to use ntldr or whateva for my boot select |
| 15:13.31 | nvz | I dont know if or how grub does that but lilo does mandatory and restricted access passwords |
| 15:13.32 | spoonMan | it is now showing some percent.... |
| 15:13.33 | abrotman | it .. lets you use that source? |
| 15:13.48 | spoonMan | i mean, does it check what my system needs??? |
| 15:13.54 | spoonMan | first... |
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| 15:14.04 | nvz | !ep |
| 15:14.04 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:14.11 | spoonMan | if , it needs updating..like security patch... |
| 15:14.44 | nvz | are you a member of the GNAA sent here to annoy the shit out of us? |
| 15:14.47 | KillerBunny | Where does consol programs send output if | and > doesnt catchs the output ? |
| 15:14.48 | abrotman | nvz: why????????? |
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| 15:15.03 | abrotman | KillerBunny: stderr |
| 15:15.04 | KillerBunny | I need to make sure that it isnt send to screen |
| 15:15.21 | KillerBunny | so how can i access and redirect it? |
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| 15:15.30 | abrotman | google "shell redirect" |
| 15:15.34 | caphuso | KillerBunny: man bash, search for "REDIRECTION" |
| 15:15.35 | asg | KillerBunny: > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 15:15.40 | spoonMan | how can i check my debian, if it needs some updating to do??? |
| 15:15.40 | KillerBunny | K thanks dudes. |
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| 15:16.10 | valdyn | spoonMan: apt-get update; apt-get -u upgrade ( you were told that once already ) |
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| 15:16.11 | nvz | spoonMan: your question was answered and you have no updates available |
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| 15:16.53 | spoonMan | so whyis my apt-setup downloading something..what is this fir?? |
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| 15:17.27 | nvz | spoonMan: you obviously want something specific so just ask for what you really want. |
| 15:17.52 | spoonMan | i click apt-setup...and now there is a download going on..What is this download doing???? |
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| 15:18.03 | spoonMan | is it upgrading???my system? |
| 15:18.12 | nathan__ | i dont know?????? |
| 15:18.14 | nvz | spoonMan: its caching the package lists and releases files for the sources you have |
| 15:18.15 | caphuso | spoonMan: no, it's updating the list of available packages |
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| 15:18.34 | we2by | how do I install qt on debian? |
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| 15:18.49 | valdyn | spoonMan: why dont you read what your screen displays for *your* *information* ? |
| 15:18.56 | nvz | spoonMan: your machine does not need updated. get over it. if you need something specific ask. |
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| 15:19.18 | spldart | Thanks ;~) |
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| 15:20.08 | gothtec | my b0x is l33t updated with all newest softwarez it so haxx0rproof and cool yeah im leet!!!!!?? |
| 15:20.26 | spoonMan | I NEED to make sure thay my debian contains all the latest security patches...HOW can i verify this? |
| 15:20.37 | spldart | Mines a liquid cooled dually but I'm not l337 :( |
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| 15:20.57 | pureone | spoonMan subscribe to the security mailing list. you will know when things need updating this way |
| 15:21.08 | Guerin | spoonMan: what branch of debian? |
| 15:21.13 | spoonMan | sarge |
| 15:21.22 | asuffield | hire a sysadmin |
| 15:21.25 | nvz | spoonMan: what says "cat /etc/debian_version" ? |
| 15:21.29 | pureone | hehr |
| 15:21.30 | spldart | I like sarge netinst |
| 15:21.34 | pureone | hehe* |
| 15:21.35 | Guerin | spoonMan: make sure you have a security.debian.org sarge line in your sources.list and update/upgrade frequently |
| 15:21.37 | asuffield | Silent_al: is that like being in a movie? |
| 15:21.46 | spoonMan | 3.1 |
| 15:21.57 | Guerin | spoonMan: we know the version number of sarge, thanks. |
| 15:22.11 | gothtec | nvz asked him... |
| 15:22.11 | spoonMan | where can i find sources.lst? |
| 15:22.14 | nvz | spoonMan: grep security /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:22.45 | spldart | oops |
| 15:23.00 | freebase | can i restore /usr/include/asm somehow? |
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| 15:23.40 | Silent_al | asuffield : if its titled "hell on earth" , then yes . |
| 15:23.42 | valdyn | freebase: apt-get install --reinstall linux-kernel-headers |
| 15:23.50 | spoonMan | k |
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| 15:24.02 | we2by | how do I install qt on debian? |
| 15:24.04 | freebase | valdyn, thnx! |
| 15:24.24 | Mash | we2by: apt-get install ? |
| 15:24.25 | drzoot|laptop | i just installed a new debian box and after compiling the nonfree nvidia driver fired up X but it looks really bad, not only are the fonts all jaggy but the edges of the icons are all jaggy aswell, any ideas? |
| 15:24.26 | gothtec | How can I make ctrl+alt+8 type a [ in X applications? |
| 15:24.28 | valdyn | we2by: for which purpose? |
| 15:24.51 | we2by | for an app that need qt |
| 15:25.02 | Guerin | !wayc we2by |
| 15:25.04 | dpkg | we2by: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 15:25.11 | spoonMan | side-question: How does gentoo compare with debian? |
| 15:25.15 | valdyn | we2by: for compiling an app that needs qt? for installing an app via apt-get? which app? |
| 15:25.16 | Guerin | spoonMan: it doesn't |
| 15:25.32 | we2by | apt-get can not find it |
| 15:25.39 | valdyn | !it |
| 15:25.39 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 15:25.44 | Guerin | we2by: apt-cache search libqt dev |
| 15:25.44 | valdyn | ops |
| 15:25.44 | nathan__ | for i in $`apt-cache search "" |awk {'print $1'}` ; do apt-get -y install $i ; done |
| 15:25.48 | valdyn | we2by: be specific |
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| 15:26.05 | spoonMan | how can i change my gnome splash screen??? |
| 15:26.15 | gothtec | !ep |
| 15:26.15 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:26.19 | valdyn | oh hell |
| 15:26.24 | Guerin | spoonMan: ask #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 15:26.27 | nullvoid | using vsftpd, I tried deny_file={Maildir} where I don't want any user to access Maildir folder in their homedir; it doesn't work |
| 15:27.02 | Guerin | nullvoid: why don't you want anyone to access their mail by ftp? |
| 15:27.16 | Guerin | i mean |
| 15:27.21 | valdyn | nathan__: that's not particularily funny |
| 15:27.21 | nvz | spoonMan: about the same as diseased norwegian hookers compare to preschools in the greater Chicago area |
| 15:27.30 | Guerin | it's a stupid idea, but there;s no reason to censure it |
| 15:27.53 | nathan__ | valdyn, it would be if everyone ran it |
| 15:27.55 | Guerin | nathan__: won't work anyway |
| 15:28.01 | nathan__ | it'd prob bail out |
| 15:28.12 | Guerin | nathan__: it'd barf about conflicts: |
| 15:28.18 | nathan__ | yeah thought as much |
| 15:28.31 | spoonMan | what does the spiral in the debian logo mean??? |
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| 15:28.51 | dvs | spoonMan: Someone won a logo contest. ;-) |
| 15:28.52 | valdyn | spoonMan: what does the wave in coka colas logo mean |
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| 15:28.53 | Guerin | spoonMan: it means 'go and read about debian on debian.org' |
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| 15:28.55 | md5sum | spoonMan: sega dreamcast |
| 15:29.00 | Guerin | md5sum: heh |
| 15:29.04 | nvz | heh |
| 15:29.13 | nullvoid | Guerin: I tried to chroot my user into a spesific folder in their homedir, but can't figure out; so now the alternative way is to disallow them to access their Maildir folder (don't want them to mess with it) |
| 15:29.26 | nvz | I thing he is a full fledged GNAA member sent here to annoy #debian |
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| 15:29.55 | nullvoid | Guerin: I use this in vsftpd.conf deny_file={Maildir} |
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| 15:30.06 | Guerin | nullvoid: you can't chroot a user with a homedir; they're already chrooted into their homedir. Why would you want to chroot them any further anyway? the stuff in their homedir is THEIRS. |
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| 15:30.14 | cockslap | !dkpg masq |
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| 15:30.31 | cockslap | !dpkg masq |
| 15:30.31 | dpkg | somebody said masq was See: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L, or >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html << url has changed |
| 15:30.34 | valdyn | cockslap: /msg dpkg masq |
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| 15:30.53 | xfoxx | can anyone assist me please, Can't set the specified locale! |
| 15:30.53 | xfoxx | Check LANG, LC_CTYPE, LC_ALL. |
| 15:31.09 | Guerin | xfoxx: dpkg-reconfigure locales; |
| 15:31.56 | nullvoid | Guerin: like I said I don't want my user to mess with their other files, just want them to be in one folder inside |
| 15:32.19 | nullvoid | Guerin: please advice since I tried hide_file also no go |
| 15:32.22 | Guerin | nullvoid: if you don't want a user to fuck with the files in their homedir, why did you give them a homedir with files in it? |
| 15:32.28 | cockslap | my debian box has internet working fine my windows box can ping it and i can ping the windows box from debian |
| 15:32.31 | cockslap | PROXiMA:~# iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward PROXiMA:~# |
| 15:32.37 | Guerin | nullvoid: you haven't answered my initial question: WHY? |
| 15:32.38 | cockslap | that should just make internet work on the winbox no? |
| 15:32.41 | nathan__ | nullvoid, why dont you use proftpd then its easy :) |
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| 15:32.51 | Guerin | nullvoid: this is not the way things like this are supposed to work |
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| 15:33.14 | Guerin | nullvoid: don't get me wrong; deny and hide options DO work in vsftpd; it's just that this is a Stupid Idea |
| 15:33.17 | xfoxx | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified, can't open display: :0.0 |
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| 15:33.43 | mtnman | cockslap: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward. is it 0 or 1? |
| 15:33.48 | Guerin | nathan__: proftpd is only easy if you're an apache guru |
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| 15:33.59 | nathan__ | nullvoid, DefaultRoot ~/dir/ |
| 15:34.00 | nullvoid | Guerin: I got one machine running as mail and ftp server; so I want to protect the Maildir folder in the sametime to allow them to ftp |
| 15:34.01 | cockslap | 1 |
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| 15:34.31 | Guerin | nullvoid: but WHY should a user not be able to access their mail by ftp? IT'S THEIR FUCKING MAIL |
| 15:34.45 | mtnman | cockslap: good. now go to the winbox and set the debian box as the gateway |
| 15:34.51 | Guerin | or if it's not their mail, WHY is it in their homedir? |
| 15:34.51 | nathan__ | he's been reading too much BOFH |
| 15:34.54 | gothtec | nullvoid: what they're telling you is that there's no reason for denying a user access to his own mail |
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| 15:35.02 | cockslap | mtnman well this worked before i rebooted the debian box |
| 15:35.02 | cockslap | heh |
| 15:35.07 | cockslap | and now it just stopped working |
| 15:35.14 | Guerin | nathan__: nah. If that was the answer he'd not need our advice |
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| 15:35.24 | nathan__ | heh fair point :) |
| 15:35.29 | nullvoid | Guerin: yes, until they delete a few files in their mailfolder and come complaining about it |
| 15:35.40 | gothtec | cockslap, please find a less offensive nickname. some people might not like it |
| 15:35.45 | spoonMan | how to configure debian so that it won't go directly to gdm...but to command-line just like slackware... |
| 15:35.59 | Guerin | nullvoid: tell them: "tough titty, you dumb fuck, don't delete shit in future. I'll restore from backups in 24 hours or when you next bring me coffee." |
| 15:36.00 | nullvoid | I have a strong reason why I am doing this; so please assist in my issue |
| 15:36.00 | gothtec | !clue spoonMan |
| 15:36.03 | nathan__ | spoonMan, apt-get remove gdm xdm etc etc |
| 15:36.06 | valdyn | nullvoid: as opposed to deleting mails with their mail tool and then comeing to complain about it? |
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| 15:36.19 | Guerin | !tell spoonMan about nodm |
| 15:36.22 | mtnman | spoonman: you could update-rc.d -f gdm remove or apt-get --purge remove gdm |
| 15:36.26 | dos000 | are there differeces tu run this howto in sarge http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04 ? |
| 15:36.38 | Guerin | dos000: yes, because one is sarge and one isn't |
| 15:37.07 | xfoxx | can any one assist me with this one , Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified, can't open display: :0.0 |
| 15:37.07 | nullvoid | It's easy to say, but some stupid moron will just deleted their Maildir folder can come to us complaining |
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| 15:37.07 | cockslap | any suggetsions on where to look mtnman? |
| 15:37.07 | Guerin | xfoxx: not without more information |
| 15:37.07 | dos000 | Guerin, i am wondering what would be possibble differences |
| 15:37.07 | mtnman | spoonman: note that if you go the update-rc.d road, and gdm is updated, the lins will be rewritten. |
| 15:37.07 | nathan__ | xfoxx, more info plz |
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| 15:37.15 | mtnman | links will be rewritten |
| 15:37.19 | spoonMan | i dont want to remove gdm...i just want to start at console..then start gdm from there... |
| 15:37.28 | Guerin | nullvoid: so send them all an email saying "DO NOT DELETE SHIT YOU WANT. If you do, we WILL NOT HELP YOU." |
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| 15:37.40 | nathan__ | spoonMan, remove gdm from rc |
| 15:37.41 | asg | Guerin: haha |
| 15:37.43 | Guerin | dos000: dunno. |
| 15:37.44 | spoonMan | at least, this is how i notice slackware behaves... |
| 15:37.46 | mtnman | cockslap: i would check the winbox first. |
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| 15:38.07 | xfoxx | cbl-st-01-233:/home/xfox/Desktop# conky...Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server....Xlib: No protocol specified....Conky: can't open display: :0.0....cbl-st-01-233:/home/xfox/Desktop#.... thats all info that shell gave |
| 15:38.10 | Guerin | spoonMan: debian oes, too, unless you configure it not to. Why did you configure it to do something you didn't want? |
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| 15:38.13 | cockslap | but nothing changed on the winbox it stopped wroking after the deb box reboted |
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| 15:38.17 | mtnman | spoonman: use the update-rc.d -f xdm remove. but be aware of my above warning. |
| 15:38.20 | md5sum | Guerin: then they delete the disclaimer message before reading |
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| 15:38.32 | mtnman | cockslap: so what did you change on the debian box? |
| 15:38.37 | cockslap | nothing |
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| 15:38.40 | cockslap | htats the problem heh |
| 15:38.45 | mtnman | cockslap: unlikely |
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| 15:38.48 | cockslap | i think the net settigns were not saved or something |
| 15:38.50 | Guerin | !cool hand luke |
| 15:38.50 | dpkg | WHAT we have heah, is a FAILUH to communicate. Some men you jes cain't reach, so you get what we have here last week. He wants it that way, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you. |
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| 15:39.03 | Guerin | not sentences 1 and 2 above |
| 15:39.08 | Guerin | s/not/note/ |
| 15:39.10 | mtnman | cockslap: you are able to access internet from debian box? |
| 15:39.11 | cockslap | can you tell me which files are involved in networking sharing |
| 15:39.18 | cockslap | so i can check them one by one |
| 15:39.19 | cockslap | yes i can |
| 15:39.20 | nullvoid | Guerin: trust me I tried that |
| 15:39.28 | Guerin | nullvoid: not hard enough, clearly. |
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| 15:39.36 | mtnman | cockslap: /etc/network/options. look for ip_forward=yes |
| 15:39.44 | Guerin | nullvoid: do you wipe your users' arses as well? |
| 15:39.52 | nathan__ | cockslap, it needs ip_forward set to 1 and iptables to enable masqurading. |
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| 15:40.04 | mtnman | cockslap: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (should be 1) |
| 15:40.06 | nullvoid | Guerin: heh I wish I can |
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| 15:40.09 | Guerin | cockslap: apt-get install ipmaqs; done |
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| 15:40.16 | Guerin | nullvoid: better you than me. |
| 15:40.20 | Guerin | bah |
| 15:40.23 | cockslap | ah that was set to no |
| 15:40.24 | Guerin | cockslap: apt-get install ipmasq; done |
| 15:40.27 | cockslap | the ip_forwawrd |
| 15:40.33 | spoonMan | thanks everybody for your help...see u later....take care everyone!!!! |
| 15:40.35 | cockslap | shoudl i restart inetd now? |
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| 15:40.47 | mtnman | cockslap: well i asked you to check it earlier and you said all was ok |
| 15:40.53 | Guerin | cockslap: wtf does inetd have to do with ip masq? |
| 15:41.00 | nathan__ | god only knows |
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| 15:41.07 | mtnman | cockslap: restart networking |
| 15:41.11 | Guerin | apart from 'badgers' of course |
| 15:41.20 | nathan__ | cockslap, /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 15:41.20 | Guerin | you don't even need to restart networking |
| 15:41.23 | nullvoid | Guerin: do have any suggestion? |
| 15:41.33 | cockslap | tx alot peeps |
| 15:41.34 | nathan__ | it should just 'work' :) |
| 15:41.39 | cockslap | lets see if this works ;) |
| 15:41.55 | Guerin | nullvoid: yeah> Stop wiping arses, make regular backups, and tell your users that if they delete shit, they can have it back when you next run the backup scripts. |
| 15:42.18 | nathan__ | cockslap, iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE or somthign of the kind |
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| 15:42.54 | Guerin | nullvoid: nothing will prevent them from deleting shit as welll as knowing they won't have it when they need it. |
| 15:43.10 | Guerin | or other $platitude |
| 15:43.12 | nullvoid | Guerin: heh... |
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| 15:43.37 | mtnman | guerin: nice theory. |
| 15:43.39 | nullvoid | why the fucking hide_file={Maildir} not working? |
| 15:43.48 | _joey | interesting |
| 15:43.49 | Guerin | mtnman: it's not a theory, it's a platitude :) |
| 15:44.00 | nathan__ | lol |
| 15:44.01 | _joey | not too many people on this channel today |
| 15:44.02 | mtnman | guerin: until proven, it is a theory. |
| 15:44.07 | _joey | 316 only :) |
| 15:44.15 | nathan__ | 315 |
| 15:44.16 | Guerin | nullvoid: i'd say because you did it wrong. I made it work, but I no longer use it, and can't be arsed checking the syntax for something so futile. |
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| 15:44.24 | asg | _joey: an attack forced most off during the night. |
| 15:44.33 | _joey | which attack ? |
| 15:44.40 | _joey | who attacked you ? |
| 15:44.54 | _joey | well, I guess all the bots were forced out ;) |
| 15:44.57 | nathan__ | can someone please tell me why some people insist on announcing routes less than /24 |
| 15:45.04 | nullvoid | Guerin: the syntax is correct, do I need to uncomment other param in the conf (if you can remember) |
| 15:45.13 | Guerin | nullvoid: nttbomk |
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| 15:45.31 | [Deek] | asg: I didn't hear of an _attack_. |
| 15:45.38 | cockslap | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:45.42 | cockslap | the eth device for lan right |
| 15:45.44 | cockslap | not for internet |
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| 15:45.45 | _joey | nathan__ what do you mean routes less than /24 > |
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| 15:46.03 | nathan__ | cockslap, internet |
| 15:46.13 | asg | [Deek]: 18:45 [debian] -lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Global Notice] Hi all. We're having issues with an attack. We're restoring a previous services backup. Please |
| 15:46.16 | asg | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.29 | md5sum | Hey isn't there a make-kpkg option to use a previous configuration? |
| 15:46.29 | asg | [Deek]: that was 6:45pm EDT |
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| 15:46.43 | mtnman | md5sum: i would imagine so |
| 15:47.01 | Guerin | md5sum: it just uses the config you already have |
| 15:47.01 | nathan__ | _joey, well if i accepted BGP routes less than /24 the routing table would be huge, some idiots announce /29's etc |
| 15:47.02 | jsanti | Hi all, if I change anything in /etc/nsswitch.conf do I have to restart any service or the changes take effect inmediately? |
| 15:47.03 | nullvoid | nttbomk ? what's that man |
| 15:47.18 | Guerin | !nttbomk |
| 15:47.19 | dpkg | Not To The Best Of My Knowledge |
| 15:47.27 | nullvoid | oic |
| 15:47.28 | yello | who can say, how i can close port 668 with iptables? |
| 15:47.30 | nullvoid | !oic |
| 15:47.30 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, oic is pronounced like it is spelled "oh i see" |
| 15:47.38 | Guerin | yello: #iptables |
| 15:47.38 | md5sum | Guerin: well I have source for 2.6.13.2 but want to use same config to build 2.6.13.4 |
| 15:47.39 | asg | yello: #iptables can help you |
| 15:47.45 | yello | o thnx |
| 15:47.51 | dvs | md5sum: make oldconfig |
| 15:47.52 | _joey | nathan__: /29 is usually used on point to point to preserve the address space |
| 15:47.53 | Guerin | md5sum: you know how to use 'cp', don't you? |
| 15:48.00 | md5sum | lol |
| 15:48.01 | md5sum | :D |
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| 15:48.08 | md5sum | k... didn't know if I would fuck something up or not |
| 15:48.16 | _joey | nathan__ I think BGP does support summarization |
| 15:48.17 | Guerin | md5sum: hint: you have to make *config before the make-kpkg run |
| 15:48.20 | [Deek] | asg: I know chanserv kicked us all out and basically banned the channel, but I didn't notice anyone saying it was an attack. :) |
| 15:48.24 | nathan__ | _joey, usually is the operative word |
| 15:48.30 | asg | [Deek]: you don't subscribe to wallops? |
| 15:48.32 | _joey | so the routing tables won't be as large as you think it could |
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| 15:48.38 | [Deek] | asg: Hell no. :) |
| 15:48.48 | asg | [Deek]: then that's why you didn't know ;) |
| 15:48.48 | _joey | operative word ? |
| 15:49.40 | cahoot | md5sum: just run make oldconfig |
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| 15:49.59 | nathan__ | _joey, 'most' not all |
| 15:50.02 | _joey | let me put it the other way , if you can't create proper addressing schemes then go and do some reading why people use /29 subnet mask. Just as an example: internet backbone router at the top of hierachy have no more than 35K entries in their routing tables |
| 15:50.11 | tyranix | What's the easiest/best way to fetch a *.deb file without installing it? I'm searching now but I keep finding "apt-get install" which isn't what I want to do. |
| 15:50.37 | InsaneLion | i am a new user. |
| 15:50.41 | nullvoid | asg: had you tried hide_file in vsftpd? |
| 15:50.43 | nathan__ | _joey, circa 189,000 ! |
| 15:50.43 | |XO| | tyranix man apt-get |
| 15:50.56 | InsaneLion | i just have set up debian. |
| 15:51.14 | InsaneLion | but its not going in graphic view. |
| 15:51.17 | asg | nullvoid: no. |
| 15:51.18 | tyranix | |XO|: Yeah I see -d but you still have to be root. I'd like to do this as a user. |
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| 15:51.34 | _joey | nathan__ why they shouldn't use /29 on ppp links ? |
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| 15:51.48 | mtnman | insanelion: have you installed anything like x-window-system[core]? |
| 15:51.49 | nathan__ | _joey, there are chunks of the internet not accessible by a large number of isp's because of people annoucning such small block, it annoys me |
| 15:52.03 | nathan__ | s/block/blocks |
| 15:52.10 | InsaneLion | mtnman: nope |
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| 15:52.23 | |XO| | tyranix search for teh deb file you want on google and wget :) |
| 15:52.25 | InsaneLion | i am new to this world. |
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| 15:52.30 | mtnman | insanelion: apt-get install x-window-system-core and run startx. |
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| 15:52.52 | mtnman | insanelion: best to run startx as regular (non-root) user. |
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| 15:53.25 | InsaneLion | mtnman: can i p'msg you? |
| 15:53.36 | |XO| | i need some advice... which is best email server(qmail, postfix, exim) for web mail(allows web mail password changes), mailman, pop3, stmp-auth? |
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| 15:53.59 | caphuso | |XO|: any will do |
| 15:54.05 | nathan__ | |XO|, any :) |
| 15:54.12 | nathan__ | |XO|, i personally like qmail though |
| 15:54.28 | mtnman | insanelion: pleae keep it in the channel |
| 15:54.33 | tyranix | |XO|: Ahh I found a way without doing that. :) debian-goodies has 'debget'. It tries to use /var/lib/dpkg/lock (why?) but still downloads the file anyway. |
| 15:54.47 | |XO| | caphuso i have used qmail + vpopmail but mailman integration is difficult with qmail...i want something that i can apt-get so its easy to maintain... |
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| 15:54.56 | caphuso | |XO|: exim or postfix |
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| 15:55.13 | |XO| | they both work well with mailman? |
| 15:55.18 | caphuso | sure |
| 15:55.33 | mtnman | insanelion: i asked you to keep it in the channel. if you do not, i will /ignore you. |
| 15:55.41 | |XO| | caphuso which has btter performance? |
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| 15:55.50 | caphuso | |XO|: both the same |
| 15:56.01 | AptGet | hey what is the package i need for canon printer drivers? |
| 15:56.01 | InsaneLion | ok sir. |
| 15:56.15 | mtnman | insanelion: please do not call me sir. |
| 15:56.38 | nathan__ | have you not be knighted |
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| 15:56.41 | nathan__ | been |
| 15:56.48 | mtnman | nathan: point. |
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| 15:57.15 | mtnman | besides, it always brings to mind "license and registration, sir" |
| 15:57.24 | dvs | ha! |
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| 15:58.09 | nathan__ | heh |
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| 15:59.34 | iser | hello |
| 15:59.44 | iser | how i can make screen desktop on xfce4? |
| 16:00.07 | nathan__ | a policeman calls a civilian 'sir' yet we can call them anything except pig, the irony of it all |
| 16:00.19 | sTone_heAd | iser, what do you mean? |
| 16:00.21 | jackdaw | has anyone successfully downloaded the proprietary ati installer from the ati website? |
| 16:00.47 | nathan__ | jackdaw, yes im using it on my laptop :) |
| 16:00.48 | iser | sTone_heAd, i want make screen of my desktop on xfce4 |
| 16:01.02 | mtnman | nathanb__: they can use that word, which ostensibly intones respect in a way which intones anything but. |
| 16:01.04 | iser | on gnome is no problem, but here... |
| 16:01.23 | jackdaw | nathan_, i downloaded it in aug when i got a new pc, now i get file contents every time i click "agree" |
| 16:01.37 | nathan__ | worked for me about a month ago |
| 16:02.08 | jackdaw | hmmmm...i've tried different browsers, everything i can think of to no avail |
| 16:02.18 | nathan__ | ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run |
| 16:02.25 | jackdaw | yep, that's th eone |
| 16:02.36 | derkaikai | Hi, everyone; DRI doesn't work on my Xorg6.8.2 (i915 chipset, 2.6.12.6 kernel). Anybody have an idea?? (got it down to a DRM/libGL version problem) |
| 16:02.55 | nathan__ | jackdaw, wget http://..... |
| 16:03.18 | jackdaw | i'll try that...long url though! |
| 16:03.34 | nathan__ | when means must :) |
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| 16:03.48 | nathan__ | i could put it somewhere if you get stuck |
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| 16:04.55 | InsaneLion | mtnman i do install but when i run startx it says fatal error 104 |
| 16:06.05 | mtnman | insanelion: when you installed x-window-system-core were you prompted for a bunch of info? |
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| 16:06.13 | InsaneLion | yes |
| 16:06.30 | mtnman | insanelion: did you guess at the answers or were you sure of them? |
| 16:06.43 | InsaneLion | i'm sure' |
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| 16:07.11 | mtnman | insanelion: well, i am not familiar, offhand, with that particular error msg. |
| 16:07.19 | InsaneLion | ok |
| 16:07.30 | InsaneLion | let me do it again |
| 16:07.54 | Bac9 | is there a way to change gtk2 theme? I tried switch2 but it uses "(null)" as root of themes hence can't change it, tried gnome-theme-manager but that just shows me thumbnails of themes but doesn't allow switching, tried gnome-control-center but it crashes on startup |
| 16:07.58 | AptGet | how do i set up a shared printer |
| 16:08.12 | dvs | AptGet: With Windows? |
| 16:08.15 | AptGet | yes |
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| 16:08.18 | nathan__ | samab |
| 16:08.23 | nathan__ | samba |
| 16:08.25 | AptGet | i installed samba |
| 16:08.30 | nathan__ | cool :) |
| 16:08.41 | AptGet | now i just dont know what to do |
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| 16:09.24 | nathan__ | AptGet, http://sxs.thexdershome.com/networking/samba_printers.html |
| 16:09.44 | sTone_heAd | iser, screenshot ? |
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| 16:11.23 | InsaneLion | mtnman: it says no screen found |
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| 16:11.54 | bizkit | hi i've just setup my apache on debian, no i'm searching for an easy php/mysql based cms. it should not be too bloated, i just need a main page, an image gallery, a guestbook and an event planner.. any suggestions? (heard of some cms which are quite unsafe?..) |
| 16:12.31 | oldsparky | bizkit: mambo? |
| 16:13.01 | nathan__ | i guess mambo will do :) |
| 16:13.04 | mtnman | insanelion: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and don't guess at the answers |
| 16:13.04 | SimonRaven | how do you get dupload to put the orig tarball too? |
| 16:13.18 | InsaneLion | ok |
| 16:13.31 | nathan__ | InsaneLion, try a generic driver |
| 16:13.53 | jackdaw | nathan, can you see if you can get to ftp.ccpip.net w/ anon ftp? |
| 16:14.02 | nathan__ | sure |
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| 16:14.30 | nathan__ | jackdaw, yes :) |
| 16:14.42 | jackdaw | if you could put it there i'd sure appreciate it! |
| 16:14.52 | nathan__ | ah :) pl |
| 16:14.53 | nathan__ | ok* |
| 16:15.13 | nathan__ | it has write for anon? :| |
| 16:15.22 | jackdaw | should now, i just turned it on |
| 16:15.37 | jackdaw | will turn it off when you're done |
| 16:16.27 | nathan__ | jackdaw, it gave a 550, no permission |
| 16:16.47 | jackdaw | oops, missed something...gimee a sec.. |
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| 16:19.51 | iser | sTone_heAd, yes |
| 16:20.01 | flowtron | how to pipe output from "at" not to mail but file or else? even "su -c fake_u" passes is back :-P |
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| 16:20.21 | flowtron | s/-c\ /-c\ do_it/ |
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| 16:20.30 | caphuso | flowtron: by not producing any output to stdout and stderr |
| 16:20.36 | sTone_heAd | iser, oh well :) there's no screenshot plugin but you can still use the old known import -window root xfce.png ;) |
| 16:20.39 | caphuso | e.g. by redirecting it into a file |
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| 16:21.01 | flowtron | caphuso. but I'd like to pass that into a log or so. till I'm sure the process handles all output correctly ... |
| 16:21.01 | iser | sTone_heAd, step by step please:P |
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| 16:21.20 | sTone_heAd | iser, open a terminal, then put that command |
| 16:21.21 | caphuso | flowtron: and where is the problem? |
| 16:21.43 | iser | sTone_heAd, import -window root xfce.png this yes? |
| 16:21.46 | flowtron | caphuso - I tried piping all output but somewhere on the way probably missed a 2>&1 ... |
| 16:21.48 | sTone_heAd | iser, yea |
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| 16:22.08 | flowtron | caphuso : thx ... gotta have another look |
| 16:22.20 | iser | sTone_heAd, bash dont found command:/ |
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| 16:22.27 | nathan__ | jackdaw, how are you getting on :) |
| 16:22.38 | anthony_wen | I have 3 different connection (3 ISP), 3 modems, 1 multi WAN Router, 25 client PCs. How to build the network? |
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| 16:23.02 | nathan__ | anthony_wen, please tell me you are kidding |
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| 16:23.26 | sTone_heAd | iser, oh you need imagemagick installed |
| 16:23.27 | asuffield | anthony_wen: start by hiring a talented sysadmin |
| 16:23.39 | iser | ok i see |
| 16:23.41 | humbolt | what happens to a mail that was bounced back from the relaying mail server? |
| 16:23.48 | humbolt | to postfix |
| 16:24.01 | freebase | anthony_wen, hehee |
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| 16:24.02 | iser | sTone_heAd, in synaptic, i found this? |
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| 16:24.09 | sTone_heAd | iser, yes |
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| 16:24.52 | Knorrie | humbolt: another mailserver didnt accept mail from your postfix machine? |
| 16:24.52 | scoutforbach_gui | #scouting |
| 16:25.43 | Knorrie | scoutforbach_gui: channel-spam? |
| 16:25.52 | mtnman | humbolt: undeliverable mail is usually returned to the sender |
| 16:25.54 | humbolt | Knorrie: Well, I know that. I want to know what happens to the mail?! Will postfix try to redeliver? |
| 16:26.03 | humbolt | I did not get it back |
| 16:26.19 | Knorrie | humbolt: if it was a 4xy error, it's still in the queue |
| 16:26.41 | Knorrie | humbolt: if it was a 5xy error, a bounce message was sent to the addres used in the MAIL FROM |
| 16:26.45 | humbolt | the relay server did not accept the mail, because I forgot to setup authorisation |
| 16:26.46 | mtnman | humbolt: depends on why it was not deliverable. if destination reports back that recipient does not exist, then it is immediatly returned. |
| 16:27.03 | mtnman | humbolt: so the mail was never sent. |
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| 16:27.22 | Knorrie | humbolt: lookup in /var/log/mail.log what the other server said |
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| 16:27.56 | humbolt | said: 550 relaying denied (in reply to RCPT TO command)) it was sent to my postfix and relayed to another smtp server |
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| 16:28.03 | humbolt | but the relay did not work |
| 16:28.22 | humbolt | but what will my postfix instance do now? |
| 16:28.37 | humbolt | will it try to redeliver or will it just drop the mail |
| 16:28.44 | mtnman | drop |
| 16:28.58 | humbolt | if it want's to send the mail back it has to use the relayhost as well |
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| 16:29.15 | Knorrie | humbolt: it will try to send a message FROM:<> to the original sender |
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| 16:29.24 | Knorrie | humbolt: and if that fails, all stops |
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| 16:30.31 | mtnman | humbolt: there is a mail admin howto at tldp.org |
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| 16:31.26 | jackdaw | nathan__, having some probs with anon write |
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| 16:31.43 | nathan__ | jackdaw, thought so :) just create a user account for me or somthing |
| 16:31.48 | nderjm | Greetings from Jamrock |
| 16:32.00 | jackdaw | ok, sounds good, brb |
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| 16:32.23 | nderjm | Can anyone point me in the direction of some documention on LVM on root on a PowerPC (PowerMac G3)? |
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| 16:32.45 | nderjm | I've been told it can be done, but that the installer is broken |
| 16:32.55 | nderjm | I need to know how to do it manually |
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| 16:33.36 | jackdaw | nathan__, username nathan pwd password |
| 16:33.45 | nathan__ | nderjm, i presume you have googled |
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| 16:34.31 | nderjm | nathan__: And I am still Googline |
| 16:34.36 | nderjm | *Googling |
| 16:34.55 | jackdaw | nathan__, thanks! will let you know how it goes... |
| 16:35.03 | nathan__ | jackdaw, :) |
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| 16:35.15 | nathan__ | 54k/sec is the best i can do |
| 16:35.15 | FrdFlint | I just bought an Epsom 2480 scanner and am needing info on setting it up to work in debian sarge3.0 |
| 16:35.20 | pem3v78 | hi, I wonder if vsftpd allows an logged user to use PORT command in offeding way, that is to scan ports on arbitrary machines ? |
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| 16:38.02 | newbie_at_linux | I got build-essential, so I could compile source tarballs. Now the output from running configure says I need libsdl. There are lots of libsdl files. I do not know which ones I need. |
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| 16:39.05 | nathan__ | newbie_at_linux, depends :) |
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| 16:39.46 | Fixion | If I have 1.5 gigs of ram, how much swap should I have? |
| 16:39.53 | newbie_at_linux | nathan__: How can I know? |
| 16:40.08 | nathan__ | newbie_at_linux, you could try libsdl1.2-dev |
| 16:40.12 | jackdaw | nathan__, getting a checksum error... |
| 16:40.22 | iser | somone here about elive? its very fantastic envitorment:) |
| 16:40.24 | nathan__ | jackdaw, its uploading.. ? |
| 16:40.38 | dusk | I still can't get debian to read 1280x1024, 3 months ago when I used the same cd it auto configed it and it worked flawless.. now I can only do 800x600 (using xfree, want to use xorg for 3d games in the future). How can I get proper screen rez, download ati drivers? |
| 16:40.43 | dvs | Fixion: I'd use 2GB but swap partitions can't be more then 1GB |
| 16:41.07 | nathan__ | dusk, getting the right driver does help |
| 16:41.19 | Fixion | dvs: do you think I would even use 512 megs of swap with that much ram? |
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| 16:41.43 | dvs | Fixion: Probably not |
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| 16:41.56 | dvs | Fixion: But it's better than a crash |
| 16:42.02 | dusk | how can I apt-get install xorg? |
| 16:42.08 | tarzeau | dvs: swap partitions can be 2 gb |
| 16:42.14 | dvs | tarzeau: Really? |
| 16:42.15 | tarzeau | but really i'd use swap files |
| 16:42.17 | newbie_ | I've installed SSH and can connect to my server through SFTP using SSH2, but it puts me in the root (" / ")... is there any way to hide all directories in there for certain users except one? |
| 16:42.17 | tarzeau | dvs: sure |
| 16:42.30 | tarzeau | dvs: and you can have more than one... |
| 16:42.40 | dvs | tarzeau: I knew you could have more than one |
| 16:43.10 | nathan__ | newbie_, what ftpd |
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| 16:43.22 | Knorrie | n=ijckieoe@85.104.131.150 is constantly joining and parting channels with nonsense nicknames, id be suprised if thats a real human being |
| 16:43.23 | dvs | nathan__: Your ftp server |
| 16:43.49 | nathan__ | dvs, the primary cluster? |
| 16:43.51 | newbie_ | nathan: SSH |
| 16:44.05 | Silent_al | shhh yourself! |
| 16:44.06 | Silent_al | :P |
| 16:44.09 | dvs | nathan__: Huh? I don't know what you mean by "primary cluster" |
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| 16:45.09 | Rawplayer | is cp -rf enough to copy a whole linux install to another hd? |
| 16:45.18 | caphuso | Rawplayer: no |
| 16:45.24 | dvs | Rawplayer: cp -aux |
| 16:45.30 | Knorrie | Rawplayer: or rsync |
| 16:45.41 | jim | Knorrie: that and things like it have been going on for weeks |
| 16:45.42 | nathan__ | rsunc is your friend :) |
| 16:45.51 | nathan__ | s/u/y |
| 16:45.54 | jim | if you don't you'll be sunc |
| 16:46.05 | Knorrie | Rawplayer: i mean rsync -av |
| 16:46.23 | newbie_ | I'd like to hide all directories for SFTP (using SSH2) users except for one.. how do I do that? |
| 16:46.27 | nathan__ | you could ofcourse use dd :) |
| 16:46.46 | jim | or (cd ... ; tar cfpl - .) | (cd ... ; tar xfp -) |
| 16:46.47 | Rawplayer | nathan__: different hd's |
| 16:47.16 | dusk | what is that module assist? |
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| 16:47.21 | dusk | moduleassistant? |
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| 16:47.32 | dvs | !m-a |
| 16:47.33 | dpkg | module-assistant is, like, a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 16:47.35 | jim | dusk: that would be a question for google or packages.debian.org |
| 16:47.35 | Knorrie | Rawplayer: you can dd to another harddisk |
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| 16:47.49 | caphuso | newbie_: you're very unlikely to get support for SSH2 in here |
| 16:47.51 | nathan__ | Rawplayer, that makes no difference |
| 16:47.52 | jim | you could dd, but ONLY if the partition is the same size |
| 16:47.58 | Knorrie | Rawplayer: but i would not recommend dd |
| 16:48.08 | sandman | How do I calibrate a battery in linux? |
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| 16:48.12 | sandman | The readings are way off |
| 16:48.14 | nathan__ | rsync -av all the way |
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| 16:48.26 | sandman | The battery applet for gnome says I have 0% power left, for example.. |
| 16:48.34 | newbie_ | caphuso: can you suggest a way to deny access to a user to all directories except one? |
| 16:48.35 | jim | yes, exactly: dd is not recommended for copying partitions that are not the same size and same type |
| 16:48.48 | nathan__ | sandman, is it using ACPI ? |
| 16:48.50 | newbie_ | caphuso: beit with SSH2 or with chmod? |
| 16:48.54 | sandman | nathan__: I think so |
| 16:48.54 | Knorrie | Rawplayer: I once `rsync -av` a partition to the network and back after resizing partitions, no problemo |
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| 16:49.03 | caphuso | newbie_: if there was a way, it'd be very specific to SSH2 |
| 16:49.06 | newbie_ | caphuso: or .htaccess? |
| 16:49.10 | Rawplayer | the partitions are on the same machine |
| 16:49.14 | sandman | I also wish there was some distribution of linux built to run on RAM. |
| 16:49.19 | jim | newbie_: how will they run programs if they can't access things like /lib and /usr/bin |
| 16:49.19 | caphuso | newbie_: see, i didn't even knew that SSH2 cared about .htaccess files |
| 16:49.21 | sandman | And nothing else. |
| 16:49.22 | Rawplayer | i want to set over a linux install from an old hd to a new hd |
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| 16:49.39 | newbie_ | jim: they're just an SFTP account.. I only want them to xfer filez |
| 16:49.40 | jim | sandman: that would require a LOT of ram |
| 16:49.49 | sandman | jim: Not really. You could swap to gmailfs :) |
| 16:49.56 | nathan__ | sandman, try cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state |
| 16:49.57 | jim | filez? hmm, what is your intent |
| 16:49.58 | Rawplayer | so from /dev/hde to /dev/sda |
| 16:50.04 | newbie_ | caphuso: it doesn't apparently. just looking for a similar solution |
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| 16:50.23 | caphuso | newbie_: you're wasting your time here |
| 16:50.33 | aRCeZ | hello , i have a problem with the installation of Linux debian from the first of the 14 cd's: in the base system installation or how was that called , when it's at 20% it says an error message , i have screenshots... |
| 16:50.33 | jim | why spell it that way if you're not looking to share copyrighted/licensed materials without honoring the license/copyright |
| 16:50.35 | newbie_ | caphuso: why's that? |
| 16:50.37 | sandman | Says there's 352mAh left |
| 16:50.42 | caphuso | newbie_: i don't remember having seen anyone in here who used SSH2 |
| 16:50.48 | nathan__ | sandman, ok so that works :) |
| 16:50.50 | aRCeZ | can anyone help me with that? |
| 16:50.57 | newbie_ | caphuso: k |
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| 16:51.36 | dusk | how can I get xorg to pull from apt? Im inside /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:51.37 | jim | ssh protocol 2? or what's ssh2 that's not openssh? |
| 16:51.42 | Knorrie | Rawplayer: don't try to copy a running system, so use e.g. a live cd, mount both hde and sda somewhere (like /mnt/hde and /mnt/sda) and then run `rsync -av /mnt/hde/ /mnt/sda/` *with* trailing slashes |
| 16:51.44 | aRCeZ | I have a problem with the installation of Linux debian from the first of the 14 cd's: in the base system installation or how was that called , when it's at 20% it says an error message , i have screenshots... |
| 16:51.52 | caphuso | jim: it's the commercial one |
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| 16:51.55 | jim | oic |
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| 16:52.02 | newbie_ | yea.. ssh protocol 2 |
| 16:52.10 | jim | well he will have to pay for the commercial one |
| 16:52.13 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: can you put the shots somewhere? |
| 16:52.16 | jim | if that's what he wants |
| 16:52.21 | aRCeZ | online hmm |
| 16:52.31 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: or tell us what the error message was? |
| 16:52.35 | aRCeZ | dunno i dont have any hosts at the mom |
| 16:52.45 | aRCeZ | i cna send it to you however it's about 80 kb |
| 16:53.02 | tyranix | Should piuparts always succeed? My library -dev package (internal, not a dd) doesn't pass because for instance debhelper creates *-dev.postinst and *-dev.prerm since it is a library. |
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| 16:53.04 | aRCeZ | or should i find a space? |
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| 16:53.19 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: k, ill pm you an emailadress |
| 16:53.44 | nathan__ | jackdaw, that's it done now |
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| 16:53.58 | jim | aRCeZ: without more specifics than that, it's going to be difficult (or at least take a long time) to help you |
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| 16:54.45 | jim | aRCeZ: "I need help!! help me!!" "with what?" "I don't know!" |
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| 16:55.01 | sandman | I wish it were possible to install debian onto a cell phone |
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| 16:55.14 | jim | ok, so that's overstating it a little :) |
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| 16:55.19 | Knorrie | jim: lol |
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| 16:55.26 | cockslap | !dpkg masq |
| 16:55.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, masq is See: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L, or >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html << url has changed |
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| 16:56.04 | jb7od | here's a really dumb one: |
| 16:56.31 | jim | cockslap: apt-get install ipmasq is another possiblity |
| 16:56.32 | Knorrie | /k-line *!*@85.101.* ? |
| 16:56.36 | jb7od | how do i get this x to autodetect my video card/screen |
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| 16:57.11 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:57.45 | Lounis_ | entors |
| 16:57.48 | Lounis_ | sorry |
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| 16:58.10 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: k got it |
| 16:58.50 | aRCeZ | ok |
| 16:59.16 | Kerr | ~.~ bonobo-activation-server, evolution-data-server-1.0 and evolution-alarm-notify are/were running in the background just now.. killed 'em. what are they, and why would they be there :-/ ? |
| 16:59.18 | apt | Kerr: what are you talking about? |
| 16:59.34 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: http://od251.csrdelft.nl/arcez/ |
| 16:59.37 | jim | Kerr: because they are installed? |
| 16:59.49 | gothtec | How can I make ctrl+alt+8 type a [ in X applications? |
| 17:00.07 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: perhaps broken cd? |
| 17:00.09 | gothtec | I need ctrl+alt to act like Alt Gr |
| 17:00.15 | aRCeZ | broken cd? |
| 17:00.29 | Knorrie | errors while burning ?! |
| 17:00.30 | aRCeZ | so would i ahve to record the same image to a new cd or redownload? |
| 17:00.38 | jim | aRCeZ: got a few good floppy blanks? |
| 17:00.47 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: id recommend just using the netinstall |
| 17:00.48 | aRCeZ | nope sorry... |
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| 17:00.52 | aRCeZ | netinstall |
| 17:00.55 | aRCeZ | yes i downloaded it |
| 17:00.56 | Knorrie | it's only 100mb |
| 17:00.56 | aRCeZ | and tried |
| 17:01.00 | aRCeZ | and |
| 17:01.04 | aRCeZ | get problems with that |
| 17:01.07 | Kerr | also, whenever i try to watch an avi, i get plain blue where there should be whatever avi it is.. i was checking if anything had borked and clung on in the background when i saw those odd gnome programs. Any idea what went wrong? |
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| 17:01.13 | Lounis_ | hi, If I want to add an application to the wishlist and there is no .deb yet for this application, it's a ITP or a RFT? |
| 17:01.14 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: the same problems? |
| 17:01.16 | Golfgeo | Hi all |
| 17:01.21 | aRCeZ | no i dont think so |
| 17:01.26 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: hi Delft :) |
| 17:01.27 | aRCeZ | i could check... |
| 17:01.33 | jim | aRCeZ: ok, so you got problems... were the problems that all your peanut butter was stolen??! |
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| 17:01.51 | aRCeZ | caus ei dont remember but ig uess it's somethign with network adapter |
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| 17:02.00 | jim | ok |
| 17:02.04 | aRCeZ | mayeb i'd have to put my ethernet adapter linux drive ron a floppy |
| 17:02.05 | aRCeZ | ? |
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| 17:02.30 | aRCeZ | jim i know i am n00b , but you dont have to remind me that :D |
| 17:02.31 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: what ethernet card is it? vendor/type |
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| 17:02.40 | aRCeZ | wait |
| 17:02.46 | cratuki | Is there a doc that talks through the specifics of the apache2 configuration on sarge? |
| 17:03.01 | jim | aRCeZ: I'm not reminding you of that... I'm reminding you that we can't always see your screen :) |
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| 17:03.18 | Knorrie | jim: http://od251.csrdelft.nl/arcez/ :D |
| 17:03.22 | aRCeZ | Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC thats written in win i think this is the real name , however id ont have the box... |
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| 17:03.34 | jim | so essentially, I'm telling you that we are all n00bs to your problem... until you tell us what it is :) |
| 17:03.45 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: oh well, that driver is definitely on the netinstall cd |
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| 17:04.01 | aRCeZ | well if tahst liekt hat |
| 17:04.05 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: one of the most common chips |
| 17:04.14 | jim | yeah, that driver is easy |
| 17:04.15 | aRCeZ | then i will just check the problme and i fomsehitng , ill make screens... |
| 17:04.24 | aRCeZ | if something |
| 17:04.29 | aRCeZ | sorry for my fast typing |
| 17:04.38 | aRCeZ | cu guys |
| 17:04.38 | jim | fast is good :) |
| 17:04.40 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: have fun! :) |
| 17:04.40 | NanoBCN_ | hello, people |
| 17:04.45 | jim | but readable is good too :) |
| 17:04.58 | Knorrie | !fast |
| 17:04.58 | dpkg | greycat |
| 17:04.58 | aRCeZ | thanks |
| 17:05.00 | sandman | Yeah my battery says it has 0mAh of charge left |
| 17:05.01 | Knorrie | :P |
| 17:05.04 | jim | lsi;dugo;sdjig;ldj glsdfjgl; sdjkf gl;sdjkg l;ksdj gl;ksj dfgl;jk sdfjk!!???!?! |
| 17:05.08 | NanoBCN_ | I'm trying to compile a driver under a new kernel which is giving me real pain in the ass |
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| 17:05.27 | tarzeau | NanoBCN_: which driver? which kernel version exactly? |
| 17:05.28 | NanoBCN_ | anyone knows about differences between 2.6.12? |
| 17:05.30 | cockslap | hrmz i cant apt-get install tcl |
| 17:05.32 | newbie_at_linux | I am getting several errors when I run configure about OpenAL. Here is one: configure: error: OpenAL is currently mandatory |
| 17:05.35 | jim | NanoBCN_: we only help with fake pains |
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| 17:05.38 | cockslap | anyone know how i can get tcl on my box? |
| 17:05.51 | tarzeau | cockslap: apt-cache search ^tcl |
| 17:05.55 | jim | apt-get install tcl? |
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| 17:06.01 | Golfgeo | Question: I am upgrading my disk and I was looking into the dos/LBA adressing issue and tested if my current disk and my new disk could use CHS (in stade off LBA) adressing without problems... I could see the new disk using other than LBS addressing, but the old one wasn't using CHS... I wondered thrue my lilo.conf and there was "lba32"... My cuestion is: Can I qoute it out and still boot my machine? And another one is: Should I use CHS i.s.o. LBA |
| 17:06.07 | jim | or you can build it yourself |
| 17:06.12 | NanoBCN_ | tarzeus, it's a driver to be able to use my wireless card (acerhk) under 2.6.12-9-686 |
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| 17:07.27 | NanoBCN_ | somehow, it now doesn't want to get compiled and prints out lots of syntax errors which weren't a problem with prev. versions of kernel |
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| 17:07.44 | jb7od | was my question too dumb or did I miss the answer? |
| 17:07.50 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: i dont use lilo, but anyhow lba is best for newer drives |
| 17:08.10 | ixion | hi, I've installed spamassasin and I can see spamd running but I am not sure that its actually working, can I do a simple test some how? I have tried sending emails with words which I have filters for but nothing is happening |
| 17:08.11 | Seb | NanoBCN_: well you need a version of this driver that works with your kernel. |
| 17:08.12 | sandman | Is there a material I could stick on the bottom of my laptop so I don't burn my legs when it's on them? |
| 17:08.18 | Knorrie | jb7od: what question? |
| 17:08.41 | ixion | sandman, yes, a desk |
| 17:08.43 | NanoBCN_ | seb, in theory it should work with 2.6 perfectly, and that's what it did with 2.6.10 |
| 17:08.44 | jb7od | is there a way for me to autodetect my videocard and all that |
| 17:08.49 | jb7od | easier |
| 17:08.50 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-14.html#ss14.2 states it is better to use "normal" adressing, why do you think LBA is better? |
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| 17:08.59 | karasz | hi |
| 17:09.02 | Seb | ixion: look in the headers for mails you receive, spamassassin adds some. Also, spamd is not enough usually, you need either a procmail rule to spamc, or a direct tie from your MTA. Read the doc for spamassasin. |
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| 17:09.09 | tarzeau | jb7od: lspci ? hwinfo ? lshw ? |
| 17:09.12 | karasz | i whish to install bizgres on Debian |
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| 17:09.16 | karasz | any giudelines? |
| 17:09.21 | tarzeau | jb7od: ree dumps you the video rom, which you can check with strings |
| 17:09.23 | ixion | seb, ok cheers |
| 17:09.29 | cockslap | bah piece of shit tcl |
| 17:09.30 | jb7od | it's a magic graph 128 |
| 17:09.31 | Seb | NanoBCN_: as I siad, you need a version compatible with the most recent 2.6. If it doesn't compile with 2.6.12, contact upstream and let them know. |
| 17:09.31 | jim | NanoBCN_: why not try to find driver source known to work with 2.6.12 or if none, try to help make it |
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| 17:09.42 | kikinovak | Hi. Anyone knows how to open files on a remote server with Vim? |
| 17:09.47 | jb7od | on a dell cpi d300xt |
| 17:09.48 | cockslap | apt-get install tcl8.4 |
| 17:09.50 | cockslap | i ran that |
| 17:09.54 | cockslap | and then tried to compile eggdrop |
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| 17:09.55 | tarzeau | kikinovak: login to the remote machine first? |
| 17:09.57 | cockslap | and it says i have no tcl |
| 17:09.58 | Seb | kikinovak: ssh remoteserver ; vim file |
| 17:10.02 | ixion | seb, in the header, should I see my MTA handing the mail over to spamassasin? |
| 17:10.02 | jb7od | i went to the old cookbook but the links are brokenn |
| 17:10.13 | jim | cockslap: compile? oh, you need the compile part of tcl |
| 17:10.17 | NanoBCN_ | Seb, jim, the problem is that there is no other driver source than the one I have |
| 17:10.17 | Seb | ixion: no, you should just see some spamassasin headers. |
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| 17:10.26 | jackdaw | nathan__, working now, guess i jumped the gun! |
| 17:10.29 | Golfgeo | !apt lba |
| 17:10.29 | Seb | ixion: read the doc on how to set it up from a client point of view. |
| 17:10.29 | cockslap | jim: elaborate please |
| 17:10.34 | cockslap | apt-get should do that no? |
| 17:10.37 | Golfgeo | !Golfgeo lba |
| 17:10.38 | Seb | NanoBCN_: *contact* *upstream* |
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| 17:10.47 | tarzeau | Seb: that'll not work like that |
| 17:10.49 | kikinovak | tarzeau: thx |
| 17:10.51 | jim | NanoBCN_: if that's really the case you might have to wait for it or downgrade kernel |
| 17:10.53 | kikinovak | Seb: thx |
| 17:10.54 | newbie_at_linux | I am getting several errors when I run configure about OpenAL. Here is one: configure: error: OpenAL is currently mandatory |
| 17:10.54 | Seb | tarzeau: what will not ? |
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| 17:11.05 | ixion | seb, I did a apt-get install of spamd... typically, do I still need to do what you mentioned above in terms of fiddling with my MTA? |
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| 17:11.12 | tarzeau | Seb: your command will open a local file after the ssh |
| 17:11.17 | Knorrie | !lba |
| 17:11.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, lba is Logical Block Addressing. or good bios informations at http://usuarios.intercom.es/ag0ny/msxdev.html |
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| 17:11.24 | tarzeau | Seb: you'd want the vim command in "" right after ssh remotehost |
| 17:11.24 | Seb | ixion: dude read the doc, I won't repeat it |
| 17:11.29 | NanoBCN_ | jim, I tried downgrading kernel but I got kernel panic when trying to boot it from Ubuntu Breeze |
| 17:11.32 | ixion | ah sorry, I missed your last message |
| 17:11.33 | jim | cockslap: yeah, but you have to get the -dev part (btw, tcl before 8.4.11 has nasty mem leak) |
| 17:11.37 | Seb | tarzeau: man... that wasn't meant to be taken litterally as a shell command. |
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| 17:11.45 | cockslap | ok tx |
| 17:11.49 | Knorrie | dpkg: http://usuarios.intercom.es/ag0ny/msxdev.html gives a 404 |
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| 17:11.58 | Seb | NanoBCN_: did you say ubuntu ? |
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| 17:12.04 | NanoBCN_ | Seb, yes |
| 17:12.05 | Seb | ixion: heh |
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| 17:12.15 | Golfgeo | !chs |
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| 17:12.16 | aRCeZ | jo im back ... |
| 17:12.18 | Seb | NanoBCN_: how about #ubuntu then on how to downgrade your kernel ? |
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| 17:12.32 | tarzeau | Seb: i'm not sure if someone who asks how to edit a file on a remote machine with vim would understand if it was meant literally or not |
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| 17:12.37 | Frem | !ubuntu |
| 17:12.37 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 17:12.39 | Seb | NanoBCN_: since obviously contactting the upstream fro myour driver doens't see mt oappeal to you for some yet unknown reason. |
| 17:12.46 | aRCeZ | the problem is with the cd i guess : there was a problem reading formt he cd, make sure the data is in the cd |
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| 17:12.48 | NanoBCN_ | Seb, those guys now are too busy talking about KDE apps ;) |
| 17:12.56 | Seb | tarzeau: point taken, i should have written it more i nenglish... |
| 17:13.01 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/bios/set/ideTranslation-c.html |
| 17:13.06 | Seb | NanoBCN_: too bad. Try again though. |
| 17:13.24 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, checking it out, brb |
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| 17:13.52 | NanoBCN_ | Seb, Unfortunately the driver development was discontinued. So there is no one I can contact, in theory |
| 17:14.04 | Seb | NanoBCN_: sucks to be you. Any fork ? |
| 17:14.05 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: chs and large were used for small disks that were large in those times :) |
| 17:14.10 | NanoBCN_ | however, Seb, thanks for your support |
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| 17:14.16 | himself | :P |
| 17:14.21 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: and? |
| 17:14.23 | Seb | NanoBCN_: if not, downgrade your kernel as you were told. |
| 17:14.24 | jim | NanoBCN_: and so we're not busy? :) so, what, we're supposed to learn ubuntu or knoppix or whatever other based-on-debian thing to make it -possible- to answer questions? having said that... it's probably similar if ubuntu uses kernel-package |
| 17:14.44 | Seb | jim: don't even start on that path, it *does* lead to hell :> |
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| 17:15.13 | jim | why? they don't use it? or they altered it? |
| 17:15.38 | NanoBCN_ | jim, I perfectly know you're not supposed to know these things. I just thank you for your time. I just wanted to use my last resource, that's all. |
| 17:15.38 | Seb | jim: i believe they did. Don't take my word for it though |
| 17:15.39 | aRCeZ | the problem is with the cd i guess : there was a problem reading formt he cd, make sure the data is in the cd ---- should i redownload the netinst cd? |
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| 17:16.05 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: try another cd drive first |
| 17:16.18 | Seb | himself: more generally, my point was that helping people with ubuntu is usually painful for you or me, as some of their stuff is indeed not exactly like ours :\ |
| 17:16.20 | aRCeZ | another cd drive? |
| 17:16.23 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: if every cd you burn failes |
| 17:16.23 | Seb | hrm, jim I mean |
| 17:16.29 | Seb | jim: more generally, my point was that helping people with ubuntu is usually painful for you or me, as some of their stuff is indeed not exactly like ours :\ |
| 17:16.34 | aRCeZ | i have only one? |
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| 17:17.02 | Seb | aRCeZ: there is a menu in the install to verify your CD iirc |
| 17:17.04 | aRCeZ | but damnit it says its successful, does nero burning rom suck or what? |
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| 17:17.12 | aRCeZ | aha verify the cd? |
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| 17:17.16 | Seb | aRCeZ: sure |
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| 17:17.26 | ben_der | hello... might anyone be able to help me... eith the installation of debian ? |
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| 17:17.31 | aRCeZ | so i shoudl now do that? |
| 17:17.34 | Seb | dpkg, tell ben_der about ask |
| 17:17.35 | jim | NanoBCN_: the issue as I understand it... is there's this script that debianers use to compile kernel called make-kpkg which spits out debian packages of the result of the compile... mainly, it's possible ubuntu has taken this script and altered it... so we can't really know what you're gonna get :) |
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| 17:17.37 | Seb | aRCeZ: sure |
| 17:17.42 | aRCeZ | ok thx |
| 17:17.44 | aRCeZ | cu |
| 17:17.44 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: perhaps try burnung at 8x instead of 52x or whatever |
| 17:17.56 | aRCeZ | i burned at 16x... :) |
| 17:18.00 | Knorrie | aRCeZ: k |
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| 17:18.13 | jim | are you using the same drive to burn as to read? |
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| 17:18.15 | jim | oh, gone |
| 17:18.20 | Seb | yeah ;) |
| 17:18.27 | Seb | jim: both of them, matter of fact :D |
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| 17:18.51 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, Yea, but LBA isn't something that is used by linux to access disks so it doesn't have to be used... On the other hand there is a possibility that I could lose data if I change the old disk from LBS to CHS... Argh, the choices one must make... |
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| 17:19.44 | ben_der | the only thing i was able to install was debian kernel 2.6 (i tried many times ubuntu and the normal debian istallation but no keyboard) choosing kernel 2.6 installation everything went smoothly until the end when i rebooted... |
| 17:20.13 | ben_der | error message something like "operating system missing" |
| 17:20.23 | jim | so it couldn't boot |
| 17:20.24 | ben_der | i'm doing a dual boot |
| 17:20.44 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: lba not used by linux?? |
| 17:20.46 | jim | du a dool! |
| 17:20.51 | ben_der | with the linux rescue cd i was able to boot back in to windows |
| 17:21.14 | jim | ben_der: can you get to your linux install? |
| 17:21.19 | ben_der | yeah |
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| 17:21.30 | ben_der | i think the problem is GRUB |
| 17:21.32 | jim | how do you do that? |
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| 17:21.49 | jim | well first let's make sure what your boot is doing |
| 17:22.01 | ben_der | ok |
| 17:22.04 | jim | when you boot the machine and don't hit keys or anything, |
| 17:22.08 | jim | what does it do? |
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| 17:22.37 | jb7od | anything similar to xf86setup? |
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| 17:22.42 | ben_der | it starts until the part when it's supposed to run the OS |
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| 17:22.58 | ben_der | the bios comes first and then the error message |
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| 17:23.13 | jim | so it can't boot |
| 17:23.20 | ben_der | right |
| 17:23.26 | jim | at least not normally |
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| 17:23.54 | ben_der | at the moment yea it boots to windows (i changed the active hardisk to the ntfs of windows |
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| 17:24.01 | aRCeZ | hello once again |
| 17:24.07 | jim | ok, so that sounds like grub or lilo wasn't installed? |
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| 17:24.23 | smacnay | Is cdrecord (debian "testing" package) functional with 2.6.8 kernels? |
| 17:24.24 | ben_der | i installed it to another place, not in the MBR |
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| 17:24.35 | jim | ok, what other place? |
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| 17:24.44 | ben_der | i wrote (hd0,1) |
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| 17:24.58 | jim | second partition of first hd |
| 17:25.04 | ben_der | to the second partition wich is the ext3 file system |
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| 17:25.21 | jim | what cyl does that start on? |
| 17:25.30 | ben_der | cyl ? |
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| 17:25.42 | ben_der | i'm a pretty nuubi |
| 17:25.43 | jim | cylender of the hd |
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| 17:26.06 | ben_der | is this what you mean hda3¿ |
| 17:26.19 | jim | you are?? are you featured on nubiles.net??! |
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| 17:26.32 | ben_der | ? |
| 17:26.39 | tosh| | any way to say to awk that you want column $1, $5 and everything that follows after $5. I want to avoid doing print $5 $6 $7 $8 $9 $10 or is there no other way? |
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| 17:26.45 | jim | nm, lame attempt at humor |
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| 17:26.51 | ben_der | :D |
| 17:27.21 | jim | hda3? what is on hda3? |
| 17:27.31 | ben_der | the kernel 2.6 |
| 17:27.41 | jim | that's (hd0,2 |
| 17:27.43 | jim | ) |
| 17:27.52 | ben_der | i'm not really even sure what the kernel is |
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| 17:28.10 | ben_der | yes i figured that much out |
| 17:28.13 | jim | it's the main thing you boot to get linux and have it start |
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| 17:28.35 | jim | but you told grub to use (hd0,1)? |
| 17:28.54 | jim | which is hda2 |
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| 17:29.27 | ben_der | i tried this command in the rescue cd dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/mnt/osshare/debian.bin bs=512 count=1 |
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| 17:29.49 | ben_der | but i couldnt make the file visible in that partition |
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| 17:30.47 | jim | ben_der: if=/dev/hda3 bs=512 count=1 is the first sector of (hd0,2) |
| 17:30.51 | ben_der | hda3 is the second partition |
| 17:30.57 | jim | no, third |
| 17:30.58 | ben_der | so hd0,1 is correct |
| 17:31.03 | ben_der | no second |
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| 17:31.25 | jim | hda2 is second of four primary partitions (whether it actually exists or not) |
| 17:31.32 | ben_der | first the ntfs part then ext3 then fat32 and last linux swap |
| 17:31.47 | ben_der | that's the way the hardisk is partioned |
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| 17:32.06 | jim | so the ntfs should be hda1,yes? |
| 17:32.14 | ben_der | i dont know why qtparted marks hda3 and not hda2 |
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| 17:32.19 | ben_der | correct |
| 17:32.28 | ben_der | then it jumps to hda3 |
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| 17:32.58 | ben_der | and for the last two partitions appears hda2 and winthin hda5&6 |
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| 17:33.27 | jim | you might look at your partition table using something like fdisk -l from the rescue disk to see how your disk is actually partitioned (I'm suspecting that neither of us knows exactly) |
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| 17:33.36 | jim | ohhh |
| 17:33.45 | jim | 5 1nd 6 are secondary partitions |
| 17:33.49 | jim | THEREFORE |
| 17:33.58 | ben_der | yes ? |
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| 17:34.17 | jim | one of your primary partitions (hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4) is an "extended" partition |
| 17:34.25 | tosh| | anyone got an HPUX box at their disposal. need example output from a ps -fa output |
| 17:34.28 | ben_der | correct that is the hda2 |
| 17:34.32 | ben_der | the extended |
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| 17:34.39 | ben_der | the 3 & 1 are primary |
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| 17:34.59 | ben_der | and you can boot off of them according to qtparted |
| 17:35.18 | jim | hda2 is referred to in grub as (hd0,1) and if you're correct then that partition is your extended partitions |
| 17:35.22 | jim | -s |
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| 17:35.41 | ben_der | yeah could be |
| 17:35.54 | jhenn | Will debian 3.1 set up my sounds and cd burner automaticallY? I'm think ing of switching from ubuntu. |
| 17:35.56 | dusk | I have x.org and fglrx (ati radeon driver) setup for debian, Im inside dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, how do I check to see what my BusID is and enter it correctly? |
| 17:36.00 | ben_der | so i need to reinstall grub to hda0,3? |
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| 17:36.13 | ben_der | no sorry hd0,2 |
| 17:36.15 | jim | if that is the case, then hda2 ( same as (hd0,1) ) is -occupied- |
| 17:36.36 | dusk | (im trying to get my screen resolution at 1280x1024) |
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| 17:36.46 | jim | you could try that, or you could try arranging to boot from (hd0,1); it might work |
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| 17:37.02 | ben_der | that makes no sense because the two primary ones are right at the beggining of the harddisk |
| 17:37.05 | karasz | i whish to install bizgres on Debian |
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| 17:37.19 | karasz | any giudelines? |
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| 17:37.49 | ben_der | the previous command i was triyng to make was so i can boot with the windows boot |
| 17:37.52 | jim | ben_der: well, those are -physical- specs, not abstract at all |
| 17:37.58 | ben_der | ok |
| 17:38.08 | thc | dusk: you can usually just hit Enter for that |
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| 17:38.27 | dusk | thc: i did last night when I talked to you |
| 17:38.34 | jim | so you can expect that they would make more sense to (say) drive makers or low-level programmers or people like that |
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| 17:38.47 | dusk | thc: its currently blank.. but when i restarted X, it gave me an error, saying that that it was configured wrong |
| 17:38.57 | thc | dusk: are you sure your monitor even supports a resolution that high? |
| 17:39.02 | ben_der | but i did install the grub in hd0,1 |
| 17:39.09 | dusk | thc: yes, i had debian installed on this machine 2 months ago |
| 17:39.19 | thc | dusk: what errors are in your X log |
| 17:39.21 | jim | so... you can try booting hd0,1 (or did you try that?) |
| 17:39.21 | dusk | thc: and i was running at that rez.. it did it automatically when I installed |
| 17:39.24 | ben_der | isn't that correct |
| 17:39.26 | dusk | thc: how do I check |
| 17:39.50 | dusk | thc: im about to finish this xorg again (i reinstalled AGAIN last night) |
| 17:39.51 | ben_der | so how do i find out wich hda is hd0.1? |
| 17:39.58 | thc | dusk: /var/log/ |
| 17:40.27 | ben_der | or i could also reinstall everything wich doesn't take too long |
| 17:40.37 | aRCeZ | ok after checking the netinst cd integrity : The ./pool/main/p/pcutils... file failed the nds checksum verification, your cd-rom may have been corrupt |
| 17:40.37 | dusk | thc: sec |
| 17:40.42 | jim | grub is interesting in that it has a shell that can be booted from (say) a floppy... once booted, you can type commands to boot whatever (well, if you get familiar with how disks work, how yours is partitioned and how grub works and refers to things) |
| 17:40.45 | aRCeZ | so its a bad cd? |
| 17:40.47 | smacnay | Have there been changes to cdrecord in "testing" - mine is acting odd. Lost of erros and no burning occuring. |
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| 17:40.53 | aRCeZ | so i have tor edownload the netinst cd... |
| 17:40.58 | aRCeZ | and record it at slow speed? |
| 17:41.00 | aRCeZ | yes? |
| 17:41.13 | thc | smacnay: compare stable's cdrecord version number with etch's |
| 17:41.15 | jim | aRCeZ: that would be somethign to try, yes |
| 17:41.19 | ben_der | so i keep grub as the main boot |
| 17:41.24 | aRCeZ | ok... |
| 17:41.28 | aRCeZ | thanks jim |
| 17:41.28 | smacnay | thc: ok |
| 17:41.30 | dusk | thc: should I select simple, medium, or advanced? |
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| 17:41.32 | jim | ben_der: you -should- be able to do that, yes |
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| 17:41.49 | thc | dusk: i use Advanced but you will need to know exact sync rates |
| 17:42.14 | dusk | thc: hm, can I find out from the manufacture website? (dell) |
| 17:42.21 | ben_der | ok... so do you suggest i reinstall everything and while doing that install this time to a different hd¿ |
| 17:42.33 | thc | dusk: usually yes, if not boot a live cd such as knoppix and pay attn to the boot process |
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| 17:42.54 | thc | knoppix is pretty good about identifying hardware |
| 17:43.01 | ben_der | or is it easier to just install grub |
| 17:43.05 | dusk | thc: http://www.ascendtech.us/itemdesc.asp?ic=M18DEL1800FP&eq=&Tp= |
| 17:43.22 | dusk | thc: its weird.. 2 months ago I installed with the same cd and I didnt have this problem |
| 17:43.31 | jim | ben_der: well, before you do that you should determine your actual partition table to see what you factually have |
| 17:43.44 | ben_der | that reminds me.. i also have knoppix on a cd... could it do anything helpful ? |
| 17:43.50 | jim | linux's fdisk with its print-partition-table command will do that |
| 17:43.52 | dusk | 85 Hz x 80 kHz |
| 17:43.53 | dusk | ? |
| 17:44.04 | thc | dusk: that url only gives you one sync rate, you need both horiz. and vert. |
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| 17:44.19 | dusk | that is |
| 17:44.21 | ben_der | so what do i tyoe in the root of the linux rescue cd? |
| 17:44.21 | jim | ben_der: I don't know much about it, but I heard earlier that it can be used as a rescue disk or to install knoppix |
| 17:44.26 | dusk | V x H |
| 17:44.48 | jim | do you have a second machine you can talk to us on while you boot the machine in question? |
| 17:44.58 | ben_der | nope... |
| 17:45.17 | jim | it's REALLY hard to help without knowing what's really going on |
| 17:45.20 | thc | dusk: i would select 'medium' and use this: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 |
| 17:45.24 | ben_der | i understand |
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| 17:46.12 | dusk | thc: i just have @60 |
| 17:46.13 | ben_der | i can only explain afterwords... that is if i can boot back to windows |
| 17:46.15 | jim | you -could- try a reinstall... but still, I would try to find what your partition table really looks like before you decide what to do |
| 17:46.18 | thc | dusk: use that then |
| 17:46.37 | dusk | thc: well, here it goes |
| 17:46.39 | ben_der | where do i run fdisk ? |
| 17:46.41 | jim | any chance you can have a buddy bring over a laptop? |
| 17:46.47 | dusk | thc: time to reboot.. |
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| 17:46.51 | jim | from the cd I think |
| 17:46.59 | thc | dusk: you don't need to reboot, restart X |
| 17:47.14 | ben_der | linux rescue cd ? i'm not sure it has fdisk but i'll check if it does |
| 17:47.16 | jim | fdisk /dev/hda will start fdisk, and you will get fdisk's shell |
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| 17:47.42 | jim | h should print the list of commands |
| 17:47.52 | jim | p is one of those commands, print the partition table |
| 17:47.54 | jim | do that |
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| 17:47.59 | jim | see what's what :) |
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| 17:48.10 | ben_der | ok ill do that thanks |
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| 17:48.17 | rovragge | Hello. I want a bootable debian rescue cd image with reiserfs support. Which one is to recommend (small size is preferred, just a simple rescue cd for investigation) |
| 17:49.12 | SimonRaven | rovragge: the install cd can serve as such |
| 17:49.21 | rovragge | SimonRaven: does it have reiserfs? |
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| 17:49.29 | jim | if you want you can come back here after that, or try to connect to the net using the knoppix live cd (that's what you have?) and come here or to #knoppix or both, routing questions specific to knoppix there and installation of debian questions here |
| 17:49.31 | dusk | thc: it worked!!! |
| 17:49.32 | SimonRaven | rovragge: sarge's does |
| 17:49.36 | rovragge | ok |
| 17:49.37 | thc | dusk: sweet |
| 17:49.41 | dusk | thc: thx :) |
| 17:49.48 | thc | no prob. |
| 17:49.50 | dusk | thc: how do I check to see if 3d rendering is on? |
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| 17:50.04 | thc | dusk: what card? |
| 17:50.07 | dusk | ati |
| 17:50.11 | dusk | radeon 9500 |
| 17:50.12 | Seb | any limewire clients in debian ? |
| 17:50.16 | Seb | apt-cache doesn't seem to know any |
| 17:50.21 | Seb | but I'm sure you good people will :> |
| 17:50.23 | dusk | i installed the fglrx drivers and enabled the module with module assist |
| 17:50.30 | jim | Seb: well that's a java app |
| 17:50.36 | Seb | SimonRaven: sup |
| 17:50.43 | thc | dusk: i would Google it, i don't have any experience with that chipset |
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| 17:50.49 | rovragge | SimonRaven: is http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso OK? |
| 17:50.55 | Seb | jim: you meant "the only limewire implementation in linux is java-based" ? |
| 17:51.00 | Akebono89 | my bootup fails after the ACPI lines are shown. I tried acpi=off, and it still locks up at the same spot, just doesnt show the acpi stuff. anyone have any ideas? |
| 17:51.17 | Seb | Akebono89: are you using a deian precompiled kernel image ? |
| 17:51.19 | Seb | debian |
| 17:51.21 | jim | Seb: I dn't know all that :) |
| 17:51.24 | jim | but |
| 17:51.28 | jim | the one I have is |
| 17:51.29 | Seb | jim: haha, then why did you mention java ? |
| 17:51.31 | Seb | oh ok |
| 17:51.32 | Akebono89 | Its an ubuntu livecd actually. |
| 17:51.33 | Seb | gotcha |
| 17:51.43 | Akebono89 | so whatever is on it :P |
| 17:51.44 | Seb | Akebono89: please proceed to #ubuntu then |
| 17:51.57 | Akebono89 | sigh. getting the big ignored over there :( |
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| 17:52.19 | Seb | Akebono89: but we can't possibly be debugging problems *that* specific to ubuntu now can we ? |
| 17:52.26 | jim | Akebono89: look for what happens before, look at what is supposed to happen after |
| 17:52.33 | Akebono89 | i've tried deb in the past, and had the exact same problem |
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| 17:52.45 | jim | so it may be3 hardware related |
| 17:52.47 | Seb | jim: so you just got it form limewrire.com ? |
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| 17:52.55 | jim | yeah I think |
| 17:53.18 | Seb | k thanks man |
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| 17:53.47 | jim | I have to do something like cd ~/soem/weird/place/limewire/gui |
| 17:53.50 | jim | ./run |
| 17:54.08 | jim | because I put it in ~/soem/weird/place/ |
| 17:54.13 | Seb | jim: fair enough. I love how people spit on java, but for sh*t that doesn't need to run fast, it is still damn well convenient |
| 17:54.32 | Seb | disclaimer: i don't enjoy coding java either. I'm just saying, you know... :) |
| 17:54.45 | jim | java isn't easy... |
| 17:54.48 | Golfgeo | Caphuso, you there? |
| 17:54.53 | Seb | jim: fairly easy |
| 17:55.03 | Seb | jim: depends what you're comparing it to I guess... |
| 17:55.06 | jim | but some things are convenient |
| 17:55.16 | shtoom | python will make life smooth |
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| 17:55.25 | jim | it's probably easier than c and easier than c++ |
| 17:55.25 | sandman | noflushd still doesn't work with ext3? |
| 17:55.32 | caphuso | Golfgeo: yes |
| 17:55.34 | jim | due to what you have to know |
| 17:55.46 | Seb | jim: yeah, definitely |
| 17:55.49 | jim | it's harder than BASIC :) |
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| 17:55.53 | Seb | hah |
| 17:55.54 | Seb | ;) |
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| 17:56.38 | jim | it's on par with c and c++ and other compiled languages that are fairly close to the machine in the details you have to pay attention to |
| 17:56.50 | flimmer | shtoom: python makes life a pain.. constant 50 megs of ram++ usage |
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| 17:57.08 | Golfgeo | Caphuso, What is the benift of using LBA over CHS on a linux only machine? |
| 17:57.13 | flimmer | perl/c/c++ are good |
| 17:57.19 | caphuso | !tell Golfgeo -about ask |
| 17:57.21 | flimmer | asm too |
| 17:57.23 | Seb | jim: huh ? In java you don't have to pay attention to any of those details |
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| 17:57.33 | Seb | jim: or am i misunderstanding the meaning of "on par" ? |
| 17:57.37 | shtoom | wow is it ? flimmer? |
| 17:57.46 | flimmer | yes |
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| 17:57.47 | jim | on par == similar |
| 17:57.53 | sandman | How can I find out which processes are writing to disk and when? |
| 17:57.54 | rafx | Seb: if sh*t doesn't need to run fast, why use Java when there's Python and Ruby? |
| 17:58.02 | flimmer | shtoom: run top to vrfy |
| 17:58.04 | shtoom | have you seen that ecol strip on perl |
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| 17:58.18 | Seb | rafx: hrm, lemme see, fucking much wider api for instance ? |
| 17:58.22 | jim | rafx: cause the thing in question was written in java :) |
| 17:58.30 | Seb | and that too, heh |
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| 17:58.36 | flimmer | nope, but id use perl for scripting or smaller tasks |
| 17:58.40 | Golfgeo | Caphuso, asked it just a second before your apt message :-) |
| 17:59.00 | shtoom | i wish if you see it it'll be nice |
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| 17:59.11 | jim | these days I use tcl pretty extensively for web apps |
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| 17:59.26 | shtoom | see java is supposed to execute faster to python |
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| 17:59.33 | caphuso | Golfgeo: good. which part of "Don't... or pick one person to ask" do i need to hammer in your head so that you understand it? |
| 17:59.36 | shtoom | but theres a catch |
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| 17:59.50 | jim | you have to have the java runtime? |
| 17:59.57 | shtoom | python's code is 5 times less er than java's |
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| 18:00.18 | shtoom | so it makes no disticntion |
| 18:00.20 | Golfgeo | Caphuso, Never mind... |
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| 18:00.22 | jim | so you're saying python requires less details |
| 18:00.27 | flimmer | runtime compiled languages are not supposed to do nontrivial or longrunning tasks if you ask me |
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| 18:00.41 | jim | and yet they can :) |
| 18:00.46 | flimmer | Lol |
| 18:00.49 | flimmer | Doh! |
| 18:00.53 | cddesjar | i probably need to get start x when upgrading from xfree86 to xorg huh? |
| 18:00.55 | Golfgeo | Caphuso, Just wanted your guru opinion |
| 18:00.59 | caphuso | Golfgeo: you've interupted me while i was doing something fairly interesting, i responded because i thought it was something actually important, but it turns out if it's just a stupid question of a stupid loser who thinks his time is more valuable than mine. now i suggest you get the fuck away before you really start pissing me off |
| 18:01.02 | cddesjar | oops...i ment restart x |
| 18:01.07 | thc | cddesjar: yes |
| 18:01.09 | jim | the guru is a groove! |
| 18:01.12 | shtoom | but give a try then you'll 100 out 100 will be satisfied with python |
| 18:01.16 | cddesjar | sorry i can't tpye wrtoh siht |
| 18:01.17 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Large-Disk-HOWTO-4.html just read, especially the last alinea |
| 18:01.23 | rafx | i've used Java for years (even bothered to get Sun Java Architect certification so I can charge more as consultant), it sucks compared to more modern languages like Ruby if productivity/deadline is a high priority. |
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| 18:01.40 | shtoom | the ppl who dont like python r who never used it |
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| 18:02.02 | jim | I didn't say I didn't like it :P |
| 18:02.21 | rafx | with the trio of assembly, c++, and ruby--not sure if Java is relevant (at least for me) |
| 18:02.28 | jim | and I didn't say I don't use it, but I'm saying that now |
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| 18:03.13 | jim | it's less the language that's relevent, and more the api |
| 18:03.16 | flimmer | shtoom: ive used most languages and im just saying python is bothering me because it hogs the ram |
| 18:03.18 | antgel_ | !simple sid backport |
| 18:03.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
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| 18:04.05 | flimmer | shtoom: where a simple applet would use 2 megs of ram tops in c/c++ it now takes 50 |
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| 18:04.20 | shtoom | thas applies to all high level laguages jim |
| 18:04.32 | jim | s/high level// |
| 18:04.42 | shtoom | now those perl mongers come over here & see |
| 18:04.47 | shtoom | http://mirror13.escomposlinux.org/comic/ecol-13-e.png |
| 18:05.23 | flimmer | Lol |
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| 18:05.28 | shtoom | lol |
| 18:05.28 | batlogg | i'm back with my 2gb+ file size problem. i've been unable to copy a 2gb+ file from a gentoo box to sarge box using nfs and switched to shfs. however - shfs stops at 2GB too, the funny thing is that scp is able to copy the entire file... any idea? |
| 18:05.28 | jim | I'm quite happy with the apis I'm using in openacs for doing web applications |
| 18:05.29 | flimmer | funnix |
| 18:05.47 | flimmer | shtoom: ill have to agree with that comix |
| 18:05.49 | shtoom | ecol rocks you know |
| 18:06.16 | jim | batlogg: you've solved the problem... use scp |
| 18:06.17 | shtoom | see ppl theres an archive of strips |
| 18:06.28 | rafx | jim: by api, do you mean api that allows the language itself to be extended or api of libraries bundled with the language? |
| 18:06.32 | shtoom | that made me laugh all this day |
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| 18:06.36 | batlogg | jim: it's not a onetime job, i want to mount a remote directory |
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| 18:07.00 | antgel | what happened? network crash? |
| 18:07.01 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, did it, yet I still don't have an awnser. I read a couple of other texts, but what I calculate is this: CHS is: 120,034,123,776 Byte and LBA is: 120,031,511,040 Byte... For the same disk whitch means a difference of 2,8 MB. |
| 18:07.03 | batlogg | jim: the question is - why works scp and shfs files? |
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| 18:07.12 | thc | antgel: some sort of attacks yesterday |
| 18:07.21 | antgel | _rene_, don't suppose you are rmayr? |
| 18:07.22 | cddesjar | i hear there are security updates for testing now |
| 18:07.24 | shtoom | so theres no such problem in python obviously |
| 18:07.29 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, but what is better for the lifespan of the disk? |
| 18:07.29 | antgel | thc, aha |
| 18:07.31 | ke6isf | antgel: apparently. |
| 18:07.31 | cddesjar | what should i add to my sources.list? |
| 18:07.32 | flimmer | if [ -e /file ]; then echo "flubber"; fi; :) |
| 18:07.38 | kevogod | Freenode staffer's computer was hacked. |
| 18:07.47 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, Or just plain what is better and how so? |
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| 18:07.58 | ke6isf | kevogod: Interesting. Is there detailed info on line about it? |
| 18:08.00 | flimmer | kevogod: whooos ? |
| 18:08.02 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: lifespan? |
| 18:08.11 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: chs is obsolete |
| 18:08.12 | jim | well in my case it's the apis in openacs which extend tcl and are added to tcl and to postgres or oracle |
| 18:08.16 | flimmer | kevogod: and how ? |
| 18:08.24 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: how big is your hdd |
| 18:08.33 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, 120GB |
| 18:08.39 | kevogod | I don't know all of the details |
| 18:08.44 | jim | it's -very- trivial to extend the tcl language |
| 18:08.50 | dentifrice | hi there - willing to do software RAID-5, I'm looking for the best approach: should I merge all 4 disks into one single RAID array, and then use LVM2 on top of that to create the necessary partitions, or should I partition my 4 disks in a similar fashion, and then create RAID arrays for each ensemble? |
| 18:08.55 | flimmer | kevogod: nkow the dude or.. ? |
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| 18:09.13 | ke6isf | kevogod: In short, what is your source? |
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| 18:09.28 | kevogod | ke6isf, My source is Freenode |
| 18:09.34 | kevogod | flimmer, No |
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| 18:09.41 | ke6isf | kevogod: Kind of vague... |
| 18:09.42 | jim | dentifrice: that probably depends on your backup plan and what you're trying to do |
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| 18:09.50 | kevogod | ke6isf, Take it as you want |
| 18:09.54 | brosioz | anyone use unace ? |
| 18:09.58 | flimmer | kevogod: yesterday was supposedly some op opping someone and the dude deopped |
| 18:10.05 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: why does 2,8 mb matter when you have 120gb :P |
| 18:10.12 | flimmer | or.. mass deopped |
| 18:10.19 | Morti | Hi. I'm trying to start MPlayer with stuff displaying in X, but the window pops up for a moment and there's about half a second (if that) of sound, then the window disappears and playing stops. It's worked before today and I don't think I changed anything. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:10.28 | brosioz | ls -la beta.ace |
| 18:10.28 | brosioz | -rw-r--r-- 1 alex alex 4082861386 2005-10-15 03:49 beta.ace |
| 18:10.33 | ke6isf | kevogod: Hey, I believe it, I'm just curious about the dirt. =^^= |
| 18:10.35 | Morti | This is starting from a remote terminal where I've SSH'd in and done export DISPLAY=":1" |
| 18:10.42 | brosioz | unace e beta.ace |
| 18:10.47 | brosioz | Error: No such archive found: |
| 18:10.47 | brosioz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:10.53 | jim | Morti: the thing you're trying to play is only a half second long? |
| 18:11.06 | Morti | Not so, jim. |
| 18:11.06 | flimmer | kevogod: i wanna know what caused it/sploiingwise |
| 18:11.17 | jim | no other ideas |
| 18:11.17 | brosioz | how is possible ? |
| 18:11.33 | Morti | I can start other X clients (I tried evilwm) but not mplayer. |
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| 18:11.34 | jim | remote? |
| 18:11.35 | at0m|c | Morti, how about opening Mplayer without having it load a media file |
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| 18:11.40 | nderjm | Does anyone know where I can find documentation on setting up root on LVM on a PowerMac. I've been Googling for a while now with no hits. |
| 18:11.41 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: lba is fine, but after all i forget what you're actually try to achieve |
| 18:11.43 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, I did pay for it ;-) But that isn't it. Most of the time if you use something other than what it was intended for you have a tradeoff in something. I am thinking of speed, delaytime etc.. in regards to the adressing... |
| 18:11.52 | ke6isf | brosioz: What, you're interested in attempting it yourself perchance? |
| 18:11.58 | Morti | at0m|c: It asks for a media file. |
| 18:12.11 | at0m|c | doh |
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| 18:12.23 | prjktdtnt | Does anyone know how to make certain directories available only at certain times of the day? (EX: chmod 0600 file at time-time) |
| 18:12.26 | Morti | jim: Remote what? |
| 18:12.46 | jim | actually that's my question too |
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| 18:12.49 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: no, it's just some mathematics to find the right place on the disk, as you can read the bios and software and the disk itself even translate back and forth between the formats |
| 18:12.58 | Juul | when booting a debian install cd on an old old compaq proliant, it stops loading after "Compressed image found at..." any idea what could be the problem? |
| 18:12.59 | nkuttler | prjktdtnt: cron |
| 18:13.14 | cockslap | how do i see where something is located |
| 18:13.19 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: but because of the limits of the chs format something new was invented, lba |
| 18:13.24 | cockslap | i have this service running called xx2 |
| 18:13.26 | prjktdtnt | nkuttler: would it me in the cron doc? |
| 18:13.29 | cockslap | and i want to know where it is |
| 18:13.34 | cockslap | like in /bin/xx2 |
| 18:13.35 | cockslap | or wherever |
| 18:13.40 | ke6isf | cockslap: 'which' (if it's a binary executable) or 'locate'. |
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| 18:13.46 | Morti | For some reason it's working now. |
| 18:13.46 | cockslap | tx |
| 18:13.48 | Morti | Ho hum. |
| 18:13.48 | flimmer | Juul: kernel compiled with too little ramdisksize, bad ramdisk |
| 18:13.49 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: so that's why I pointed you at the line: "Hard drives over 8.4 GB are supposed to report their geometry as 16383/16/63. This in effect means that the `geometry' is obsolete, and the total disk size can no longer be computed from the geometry, but is found in the LBA capacity field returned by the IDENTIFY command." |
| 18:13.51 | nkuttler | prjktdtnt: man cron, man crontab |
| 18:13.56 | jim | cockslap: first look in one place.... then repeat { if it's not in the last place you looked, look somewhere else } |
| 18:13.57 | ke6isf | cockslap: Oh, for that, 'lsof'. |
| 18:13.58 | Morti | I started xine, quit it, then started mplayer. |
| 18:13.58 | dubid | oi? |
| 18:14.03 | ke6isf | !tell cockslap -about enter |
| 18:14.04 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, To overcome the disk limit of I believe 137 GB... |
| 18:14.05 | kittenbot | prjktdtnt: Put it on a separate machine that is only switched on during certain times of the day ? |
| 18:14.06 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: so i think lba is your friend |
| 18:14.11 | dubid | .... |
| 18:14.15 | cockslap | which and locate both didnt give me anything |
| 18:14.17 | dubid | anyone here?? |
| 18:14.23 | nkuttler | dubid: no |
| 18:14.25 | ke6isf | dubid: No, nobody's here. |
| 18:14.33 | ke6isf | cockslap: OK, so try lsof. |
| 18:14.35 | prjktdtnt | kittenbot: wont work in my case |
| 18:14.36 | Seb | anyone has that problem with acpi: Battery 2: charged, 0% |
| 18:14.36 | flimmer | kevogod: got the priv btw ? |
| 18:14.44 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, Oke, thanks mate |
| 18:14.45 | jim | and neither here nor there too |
| 18:14.46 | Seb | i mean, is it charged, or is it at 0% ? |
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| 18:14.58 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: np |
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| 18:15.02 | cockslap | No such file or directory |
| 18:15.04 | _rene__ | antgel: no, I am not |
| 18:15.04 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 18:15.06 | cockslap | but its running ;x |
| 18:15.08 | ke6isf | !installit |
| 18:15.08 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 18:15.21 | _rene__ | antgel: as a /whois would have shown you ;-) |
| 18:15.23 | tengulre | which fourm do u like ? |
| 18:15.25 | dubid | grrr,,,my first time here! |
| 18:15.30 | jim | HEllo! :) |
| 18:15.35 | nkuttler | cockslap: it could have been started and uninstalled later without the running process to end |
| 18:15.38 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: i'll be on the fttd in a few weeks... b3w4r3 :) |
| 18:15.38 | jim | wake up... smell the coffee... |
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| 18:15.50 | thc | cockslap: dpkg -L libsqlxx2.3c102 |
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| 18:15.57 | ke6isf | dubid: Welcome to the channel. |
| 18:16.00 | antgel | _rene__: indeed :) |
| 18:16.07 | dubid | thx ke6isf! |
| 18:16.14 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, it's the better way to the internet :-) |
| 18:16.40 | kittenbot | prjktdtnt: In which case, you'll probably need to kill all the processes that are accessing your files/directories when you roll over from accessible to inaccessible -- otherwise any user can circumvent this restriction -- that's probably not the only thing you'll need to take care of. |
| 18:16.47 | Knorrie | Golfgeo: i'll see if there can be anything better than xs4all :( |
| 18:17.05 | jim | dubid: now that your first experience is out of the way, what will be your next one? |
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| 18:17.15 | Piggy | uhn tiss uhn tiss uhn tiss |
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| 18:17.20 | mirak | hi |
| 18:17.29 | dubid | my next experience is to mett uoi |
| 18:17.31 | dubid | you |
| 18:17.33 | DPL | hi |
| 18:17.43 | DPL | me |
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| 18:17.50 | DPL | whou |
| 18:17.52 | jim | hymie? |
| 18:17.54 | dubid | i'm comin your home |
| 18:17.57 | DPL | ume |
| 18:18.00 | mirak | is it necessary to have a hardware wifi acces point to do a wifi network, or can it be done using a software router plus a PCI wifi card ? |
| 18:18.06 | prjktdtnt | kittenbot: GAH...this is such a PITA...the problem is that I am hosting a large amount of files for someone and his friends have been DLing them when I am normally online and so I lose all my bandwidth to users...I want to limit WHEN they can access them |
| 18:18.10 | ke6isf | dubid: Why? |
| 18:18.16 | DPL | can be |
| 18:18.21 | DPL | I have |
| 18:18.22 | jim | dubid: you don't know me :) |
| 18:18.22 | antgel | mirak: depends. not all wifi cards can bridge |
| 18:18.32 | DPL | most |
| 18:18.44 | ke6isf | !tell DPL -about enter |
| 18:18.47 | jim | !tell DPL -about enter |
| 18:18.47 | mirak | antgel: mmm what is the software part in a wifi network ? |
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| 18:18.56 | mirak | antgel: why a card can't bridge ? |
| 18:18.57 | Golfgeo | Knorrie, have both, xs4all at home, fttd at my student appartment, fttd is faster, but xs4all is more reliaible... |
| 18:19.05 | dubid | heeeee i'ma just kidding man |
| 18:19.22 | dubid | and you too i suppose |
| 18:19.32 | DPL | huh? |
| 18:19.35 | antgel | mirak: anecdotal evidence says that it works. sometimes. if your time is worth anything, but a WAP :) |
| 18:19.46 | antgel | not often the DPL pops in |
| 18:19.51 | mirak | antgel: a WAP ? |
| 18:19.55 | kittenbot | prjktdtnt: If these people do not have login access to the box, then you're probably ok with the chmod+cron option -- certainly, it'll be an improvement over what you have at the moment. |
| 18:19.57 | dubid | my first time here and my first question |
| 18:19.59 | antgel | mirak: wireless acccess point |
| 18:20.14 | dubid | i have a nokia 6600 and gnokii on my debian |
| 18:20.24 | prjktdtnt | kittenbot: its via HTTP so I need to just 600 these at certain points of the day |
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| 18:20.38 | dubid | what i have to do to take the grafic interface of gnokii? |
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| 18:20.58 | jim | wap is the sound Moe makes when he smacks curly |
| 18:21.00 | kittenbot | prjktdtnt: You might also want to looking into bandwidth account and traffic shaping -- but these are things I have never looked at yet. |
| 18:21.01 | ke6isf | dubid: What flavor of Debian? |
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| 18:21.08 | dubid | SID |
| 18:21.18 | jim | chocolate with thai peanut sauce! |
| 18:21.24 | InsaneLion | i have installed xserver |
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| 18:21.37 | DPL | hey nick how was Chi town |
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| 18:21.55 | InsaneLion | but i'm getting error when i startx |
| 18:21.57 | DPL | windy I bet |
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| 18:22.00 | DPL | exit |
| 18:22.02 | InsaneLion | no screen found |
| 18:22.05 | prjktdtnt | kittenbot: yea i was thinking about that...I am about ready to shut down the servers for a LONG period of time (http) and make people use a download account via FTP for his friends that can only login between the times I allot |
| 18:22.05 | DPL | now |
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| 18:22.11 | prjktdtnt | err SFTP even |
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| 18:22.20 | ke6isf | darn, wanted to !confuse him. =^^= |
| 18:22.26 | thc | InsaneLion: you didn't configure X right. |
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| 18:22.30 | ke6isf | !drxx InsaneLion |
| 18:22.33 | jim | dubid: sid isn't very stable... if you want that, no problem... but you will commonly be solving most of your own problems with it |
| 18:22.33 | dpkg | InsaneLion: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:22.45 | cheal | !tell InsaneLion about no screens found |
| 18:23.06 | InsaneLion | i go through with nv |
| 18:23.07 | dubid | o yes i solved all my problems therefor |
| 18:23.27 | dubid | but i dunno what to do to take the gnokii grafic interface, anyone know that? |
| 18:23.52 | Gnea | take? |
| 18:24.43 | ke6isf | Gnea: As I understand it, he wants the interface from gnokii transfered onto his Nokia 6600 phone, but can't get it to take to the phone. |
| 18:24.46 | ke6isf | dubid: Was that correct? |
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| 18:24.49 | jim | dubid: you have to find out if the thing you want is available as a debian package... if not, you can build it yourself if you can get the source |
| 18:25.56 | dubid | o yes i know...but i was wondering to find here anyone who knows gnokii :) |
| 18:26.08 | ke6isf | dubid: First thing I'd suggest is call your cell provider, but being that this is third party software, they'll be very unhelpful most likely. Is there info in 'man gnokii' by any chance? |
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| 18:26.18 | PEACEYALL` | hi |
| 18:26.26 | shtoom | dubid is it related to GSM phones? |
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| 18:28.03 | dubid | oyes GSM phone..its a software that provide pc-nokia communication |
| 18:28.30 | Gnea | yes, i can read |
| 18:28.39 | shtoom | i've seen a software called gnokii for nokia phones |
| 18:28.53 | Gnea | shtoom: that's what he's talking about |
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| 18:29.13 | flimmer | noone has changed the reciever unit in our tv since we bought it so how can we have digital tv ? |
| 18:29.13 | dubid | mmm...but i think i had to configure bluetooth first |
| 18:29.44 | jim | flimmer: external box |
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| 18:30.12 | dubid | o yes shtoom i just installed gnokii |
| 18:30.14 | flimmer | jim: the area box yes.. but that doesnt give us a digital signal |
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| 18:30.24 | jim | cable |
| 18:30.26 | dubid | but i can't make it run |
| 18:30.30 | flimmer | jim: our tv would not be able to handle it |
| 18:30.38 | jim | external box |
| 18:30.41 | jim | :) |
| 18:30.47 | flimmer | jim: we dont have a box |
| 18:30.49 | shtoom | sorry dubid i've only seen that name when iam searching for g3nolite for nokia |
| 18:31.02 | jim | sheesh... have some imagination :) you did ask "how" did you not? |
| 18:31.09 | thc | flimmer: and this has what to do with Debian? this isn't #cableguy |
| 18:31.11 | flimmer | obex-server shtoom |
| 18:31.17 | kristiank | I reinstalled a sarge, keeping /home, and now I cannot launch OpenOffice: "KDEinit cannot launch ... swriter". Can you help ? |
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| 18:31.19 | dubid | ok shtoom, thanks:) |
| 18:31.25 | flimmer | jim: :) |
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| 18:31.56 | nkuttler | kristiank: well, is oo installed? |
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| 18:32.21 | kristiank | nkuttler: yes it is. I suspect a problem of inode association (?) |
| 18:32.28 | Gnea | http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~leonard/linux-n6600-howto.html |
| 18:32.38 | Gnea | dubid: that should work |
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| 18:33.08 | nkuttler | kristiank: what do you mean? sounds like a kde problem to me |
| 18:33.22 | nkuttler | kristiank: i'd try mv .kde* bak/ |
| 18:33.31 | dubid | gnea what should work?? |
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| 18:33.39 | Gnea | http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~leonard/linux-n6600-howto.html |
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| 18:34.16 | jim | dubid: go look at that web place |
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| 18:34.31 | kristiank | nkuttler: seems to me similar as http://www.spinics.net/lists/kde/msg03388.html but how to fix ? |
| 18:34.42 | ben_der | so jim... i got the partition table |
| 18:34.48 | kristiank | nkuttler: do you mean remove KDE and then reinstall ? |
| 18:34.50 | jim | ok |
| 18:34.55 | dubid | sorry but...what web place??^^ |
| 18:35.00 | nkuttler | kristiank: can you run swriter from the command line? |
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| 18:35.09 | jim | dubid: he told you -twice- |
| 18:35.11 | Gnea | dubid: are you blind? http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~leonard/linux-n6600-howto.html |
| 18:35.15 | carlinhos | hi, i have trobles configuring a router zyxel prestige 650 hw 31e with minicom, i see the boot process in minicom but whan ask for typping intro nothing happens? |
| 18:35.16 | dubid | aa sorry i just ssenn it:) |
| 18:35.17 | ben_der | i took a few pictures is it possible to send them to you... ¿ |
| 18:35.26 | kds | I am looking for HSF modem drivers by linuxant. |
| 18:35.34 | abrotman | jim: not to uhm .. sound like an ass .. but if he were .. how would he read your comment ? |
| 18:35.53 | ben_der | or i can just describe what is waht |
| 18:35.54 | shtoom | kds that'll surely disappoint you |
| 18:36.08 | kds | shtoom: how come? |
| 18:36.11 | jim | abrotman: your eyesight is offsetting by a line :) |
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| 18:36.30 | thc | abortmodem! |
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| 18:36.37 | electron_ | Hi, what do I need to edit so Aterm is transparent when I start it? |
| 18:36.42 | PEACEYALL` | can someone help me with ssh ? Im trying to ssh into my own server on 127.0.0.1 bu tim egtting an error: "Permission Denied(publickey)", whats wrong??" |
| 18:36.52 | shtoom | because they only offer you 14kbps maximum speed |
| 18:36.54 | abrotman | jim: a frog in your hand? |
| 18:37.06 | shtoom | to get the full you have to buy them |
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| 18:37.16 | electron_ | PEACEYALL`, did you accept the key? |
| 18:37.19 | PEACEYALL` | ya |
| 18:37.20 | PEACEYALL` | i did |
| 18:37.25 | jim | ben_der: well we can make some guesses if you tell me the types and names of the partitions |
| 18:37.31 | efaistos | hi |
| 18:37.35 | PEACEYALL` | hi |
| 18:37.36 | carlinhos | PEACEYALL`, rm .ssh/known-hosts |
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| 18:37.45 | dubid | mmm thats an hard work, sure! |
| 18:37.52 | PEACEYALL` | ok |
| 18:37.54 | PEACEYALL` | i tried that |
| 18:37.58 | kristiank | nkuttler: I did not try, but OOO works perfectly from Gnome. |
| 18:38.00 | efaistos | xdvdshrink.pl is looking for a subtitleripper with a -X option but there is not in the debian version .... |
| 18:38.02 | jim | you might see something like /dev/hda3 type 83 (linux) |
| 18:38.17 | mrpickles444 | Hello all you wonderful debian guru's. Does anyone know anything about openft or gift? |
| 18:38.25 | dubid | but now...goodnight all!:) |
| 18:38.38 | kds | shtoom: any way of getting *full version* ;) for free |
| 18:38.40 | nkuttler | mrpickles444: the people at #gift know a lot about it |
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| 18:38.46 | mrpickles444 | nkuttler, thanks |
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| 18:38.56 | PEACEYALL` | carlinhos i tried that it still got the same error :/ |
| 18:39.06 | shtoom | do you have the cd provided with the windows drivers? |
| 18:39.11 | abrotman | !be british |
| 18:39.11 | dpkg | 'ands off mi chips you right barstard! |
| 18:39.29 | thc | mmmmm chips |
| 18:39.36 | thc | + salt + vinegar |
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| 18:39.44 | PEACEYALL` | lol |
| 18:39.46 | thc | thanks for making me hungry, abortmodem |
| 18:39.46 | kittenbot | electron_: echo "Aterm*transparent: true" >>.Xdefaults |
| 18:39.53 | efaistos | nobody for the xdvdshrink problem ? |
| 18:40.02 | ZeeGeek | I compiled alsa driver into the kernel, but weirdly I don't have /dev/snd directory, how to create it? |
| 18:40.10 | kds | shtoom: I think I might. But even if I don't I can always download from manufacturer's page. |
| 18:40.22 | jim | ben_der: so if you could look at the pic yourself and type here the names and types... we can go from there ;) |
| 18:40.30 | Wibble- | hi - I've got a problem loading the nvidia kernel module (and #nvidia is dead, so I thought I'd see if anyone in here knew...). It says it can't find an IRQ for the card, but the bios has the correct settings it says to check, and does assign an IRQ. BUT this IRQ is shared by two other devices as well... any ideas how I can fix the problem? |
| 18:40.32 | kristiank | nkuttler: I have not the machiine right now in front of me... |
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| 18:40.39 | ben_der | ok |
| 18:40.55 | nkuttler | kristiank: i told you what i would do. move the old kde config out of the way |
| 18:40.55 | shtoom | nope kds i what the ususal thing happens with softmodems is they'll provide drivers for linux also |
| 18:41.12 | shtoom | but you have to compile it into kernel |
| 18:41.32 | Wibble- | (and yes, I installed the nvidia stuff the debian way) |
| 18:41.41 | kittenbot | electron_: You'll probably also want to set 'tinting' and 'shading' |
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| 18:42.06 | kds | shtoom: so no way to get the full version of linuxant drivers freee :D |
| 18:42.30 | kristiank | nkuttler: ok, I'll try. Thanks a lot |
| 18:42.40 | electron_ | kittenbot, how do I make it shaded and text white? |
| 18:42.47 | electron_ | whats the line for that? |
| 18:42.51 | shtoom | if you have them in your cd unless i dont have any idea |
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| 18:43.05 | shtoom | previously i was using those linuxant ones |
| 18:43.10 | kittenbot | electron_: man aterm -- it's all mentioned in there. |
| 18:43.24 | kds | shtoom: how was the performance? |
| 18:43.27 | electron_ | Yes I have done it |
| 18:43.39 | shtoom | but last week i've compiled the source code provided for linux modem drivers in my modem manfacturers cd |
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| 18:43.43 | electron_ | But I don't know how to make it do it when I open it |
| 18:43.44 | kds | shtoom: were they the free version |
| 18:43.45 | bjb_ | what package makes /usr/sbin/gconf-schemas? |
| 18:43.47 | electron_ | only when it is opened |
| 18:43.52 | shtoom | its ok |
| 18:43.55 | ben_der | im looking at partition types not partition table... should i look at partition table because theres a lot of info on types... hard to tell wich one |
| 18:43.56 | electron_ | -fg white |
| 18:43.58 | xoz | bjb_: apt-file search /usr/sbin/gconf-schemas |
| 18:44.07 | bjb_ | xoz, it didn't give an answer |
| 18:44.12 | shtoom | but the pain full thing is 14kbps max |
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| 18:44.45 | syntaxx | dpkg, How do I install java runtime environment 2 on debian? |
| 18:44.46 | ben_der | partition table /dev/hda1 boot |
| 18:44.51 | kds | shtoom: they give the 14.4kbps for free.....but I thought I could ask here if someone has full version ;) |
| 18:44.57 | tyranix | Does anyone ever get "/usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 54: command: pgp: not found"? I'm using pbuilder and this error message is in my *.diff.gz. pbuilder uses -uc -us and that line contains "elif command -v pgp >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then" which works fine normally. |
| 18:45.00 | ben_der | then it has start points and end |
| 18:45.13 | tyranix | I tried searching google and couldn't find anyone else who gets this. |
| 18:45.24 | ben_der | it has blocks id and file system |
| 18:45.27 | syntaxx | dpkg, How do I install java |
| 18:45.27 | xoz | bjb_: gconf? |
| 18:45.32 | ben_der | from hda1 to hda6 |
| 18:45.43 | syntaxx | Grrr. Anyone know how to get this bot to work? |
| 18:45.45 | bjb_ | xoz, I'll give it a try, thanks |
| 18:46.07 | xoz | bjb_: /etc/gconf/schemas <- gconf |
| 18:46.08 | thc | syntaxx: you could start by learning how to /msg dpkg packagename |
| 18:46.23 | shtoom | well then go ahead kds |
| 18:46.35 | electron_ | I done apt-get install ddclient for my dyndns but I b0rked some settings, so I removed it and got it again, but now it doesn't ask for the settings, how can I do this? |
| 18:46.50 | xoz | bjb_: ah, gconf2 |
| 18:47.07 | cheal | electron_: # dpkg-reconfigure ddclient |
| 18:47.09 | bjb_ | thanks xoz. I'm more of a kde person, I know very little about gnome |
| 18:47.10 | g4m | has anyone else had problems importing zlib on a python2.4 from source? |
| 18:47.27 | kds | shtoom: I guess if someone had them they would have show interest in the discussion |
| 18:47.32 | dentifrice | jim: I have one more disk as a spare |
| 18:47.38 | syntaxx | thc, is there anyway to apt-get install J2SE? |
| 18:47.53 | thc | syntaxx: *shrug* i don't use java. |
| 18:47.54 | xoz | bjb_: strange, apt-file fails but dpkg -L gconf2 shows it. |
| 18:47.55 | dentifrice | jim: but I'm wondering how to calculate the size of my partitions in case of a disk partition + RAID |
| 18:48.04 | shtoom | ya may be kds |
| 18:48.12 | electron_ | shtoom, get a new modem |
| 18:48.25 | syntaxx | thc, I need it for certain applications and to display certain sites |
| 18:48.33 | electron_ | I got a 56k external modem with tux on it |
| 18:48.36 | tyranix | syntaxx: Free software JDK: free-java-sdk. Build a deb with proprietary version: java-package |
| 18:48.45 | bjb_ | xoz, and apt-get --reinstall install gconf2 wants to remove a pile of stuff... anyway you answered my question and I am very grateful :-) |
| 18:48.48 | thc | syntaxxL i'm guessing dpkg might know some things about installing java |
| 18:48.57 | syntaxx | tyranix, I'm new to linux and i dont know what that is |
| 18:48.57 | thc | syntaxx: /msg dpkg install java |
| 18:49.08 | shtoom | electron me too have that softmodem |
| 18:49.22 | shtoom | but currently facing some configuration problems with pppd |
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| 18:49.58 | shtoom | softmodem is working fine but the only thing is i've to cope around with pppd |
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| 18:50.22 | xoz | bjb_: maybe you need update and upgrade? |
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| 18:50.36 | syntaxx | i dont understand dpkg, im a NixNoob and need some more..."interactive help". can anyone assist me? |
| 18:50.40 | g4m | might anyone be able to help me with some python issues? |
| 18:50.52 | Wibble- | programming or installation g4m ? |
| 18:50.55 | xoz | bjb_: gnome and kde are competing for bleeding apps and being so unstable lately |
| 18:51.03 | bjb_ | xoz, good point... at least update. I'm trying to upgrade sparingly until things settle down a bit |
| 18:51.15 | kds | shtoom: thanks |
| 18:51.32 | g4m | wibble -> installation, i'm having trouble getting zlib to work, the 2.3 package works but i can't get my 2.4 source compile to import zlib |
| 18:51.36 | kds | shtoom: I will ask again later, maybe someone might have them |
| 18:51.47 | syntaxx | anyone? |
| 18:51.49 | g4m | Wibble -> i should note that i'm new to debian. |
| 18:51.49 | Wibble- | oh, can't help with that :D |
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| 18:51.53 | Wibble- | me to! |
| 18:51.54 | thc | syntaxx: /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 18:52.11 | bjb_ | xoz, most of the gnome stuff on my system got installed when I wanted a few particular packages, so I don't mind if many of them get uninstalled again ;-) |
| 18:52.14 | Wibble- | well, I feel it anyway. |
| 18:52.16 | syntaxx | thc, i dont understand him, i dont know all these new terms |
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| 18:52.44 | thc | syntaxx: dude, dpkg gives you a URL you can read. that's not easy enough? |
| 18:52.57 | thc | no one is going to spoon feed you on this one. |
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| 18:53.17 | syntaxx | thc, im not looking to be spoon fed im looking for help |
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| 18:53.31 | thc | i'm gonna say this one more time. |
| 18:53.34 | thc | syntaxx: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 18:53.36 | syntaxx | thc, if you dont think i havent been to all these sites your wrong |
| 18:54.00 | thc | syntaxx: don't blame me if the bot has incorrect info. i already told you, i don't use java. |
| 18:54.22 | syntaxx | thc, im not, but your humiliating me when im looking for help |
| 18:54.42 | xoz | bjb_: that's why im confortable with openbox+conky+vim instead of dealing with these unstable apps... the *stupid* idea of desktop instead of sticking to the unix principle of small, independent units that are interoperable through standards. now you see gnome and kde fighting for standards instead of interoperability. |
| 18:54.43 | Wibble- | syntaxx: I suggest that if you have tried to follow the instructions on those sites, you ask for the specific help where the instruction didn't do what it claimed. |
| 18:54.56 | thc | syntaxx: i'm not humilating anyone, you refuse to msg a bot that can probably help you. |
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| 18:55.28 | bjb_ | xoz, I got seduced by kmoon and kteatime :-) |
| 18:55.29 | syntaxx | Ive been to sites ive followed the instructions the only reason i came here was because the instruction im being given are not working |
| 18:55.50 | bjb_ | xoz, mostly I'm a konsole, emacs and bash person |
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| 18:55.56 | thc | syntaxx: /j ##java |
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| 18:56.18 | syntaxx | thc, whats that supposed to mean???? |
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| 18:56.28 | xoz | bjb_: yeah. there are some apps that are cool but kde and gnome pushes unnecessary stuffs. each app should be independent as much as possible. |
| 18:56.35 | Wibble- | syntaxx: So you need to explain what is not working - not just ask for a personal assistant for your installation - if you ask the specific problem which doesn't work, people may be able to help. |
| 18:56.45 | versuchsanstalt | syntaxx: thc recommended joining the ##java irc channel |
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| 18:56.51 | teleyinex | hi |
| 18:56.57 | deepan | is there any keyboard shortcut to start screen ? |
| 18:56.58 | thc | syntaxx: there is a java channel on this network. it's called ##java. join it. |
| 18:56.59 | Wibble- | syntaxx: the /j is an IRC command - meaning joining a channel more suited to your query |
| 18:57.09 | syntaxx | thanks |
| 18:57.14 | teleyinex | whats the meaning of this in my eth2 card: Link encap:UNSPEC |
| 18:57.34 | n00b | /j ##java |
| 18:57.34 | Frem | syntaxx: I've *just* installed java today. If you want a really easy, brain-dead way to get java, add this to your sources.list: "deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/java/debian/ stable non-free". You can get the whole java package there. |
| 18:57.49 | syntaxx | Frem, whats a sources list??? |
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| 18:57.54 | xoz | deepan: look into keylaunch |
| 18:58.14 | pumpkin0 | syntaxx: /etc/apt/source.conf |
| 18:58.27 | syntaxx | still not making anysense to me |
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| 18:58.38 | thc | syntaxx: man sources.list |
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| 18:59.03 | syntaxx | i just got debian less than 5 days ago, i dont know what it is |
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| 18:59.30 | omry | syntaxx, its a file that tells your debian where to get packages from. |
| 18:59.44 | pumpkin0 | syntaxx: it tells apt (the installer for debian) where to search for programmes/updates... |
| 18:59.45 | sphere | is there a way to force dhclient to keep trying to obtain an IP address? Currently dhclient exits when it can't obtain an IP address. |
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| 18:59.55 | syntaxx | pumpkin0, ok |
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| 19:00.16 | versuchsanstalt | syntaxx: sources.list is an important configuration file where you can specify from where to install software. it's an easy concept, read the man page. You will like the package management aspects of debian, it's time to find out! :-) |
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| 19:00.48 | electron_ | anyone use dyndns? |
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| 19:00.55 | syntaxx | ive got the basics of apt, its how i got xchat |
| 19:01.42 | aeronadix | Hey guys, I'm having a little trouble with my middle mouse button. I have a think pad, where is my xwindows file? |
| 19:01.42 | thc | syntaxx: then you really should learn how to edit sources.list, it determines what packages apt will pull packages from |
| 19:01.48 | syntaxx | ok i have that thing open, how do i add it to sources? |
| 19:01.54 | thc | s/packages/repositories/ |
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| 19:02.02 | aeronadix | yeah where is sources located too, I can't remember? |
| 19:02.10 | sylvisj | Sup all |
| 19:02.15 | sylvisj | !install java |
| 19:02.15 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 19:02.16 | thc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.24 | deepan | is there any keyboard shortcut to start screen ? xoz.. what is keylaunch.. pardon me for ignorence.. |
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| 19:02.56 | jim | sylvisj: you can also do: /msg dpkg install java |
| 19:03.08 | sylvisj | I know. Was getting the name of dpkg |
| 19:03.18 | Seb | what device does a usb_audio peripheral bind to ? |
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| 19:03.26 | sylvisj | Is there any way to make Kvirc open links in Firefox? |
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| 19:03.49 | Seb | i mean, what sound device do I access to get sound from this usb audio thing ? |
| 19:03.51 | syntaxx | thc, ok, i have everything i need to have open, open... how do i add things to my sources list? |
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| 19:04.05 | thc | syntaxx: with an editor? |
| 19:04.29 | syntaxx | thc, no, i mean what do i put there, what am i supposed to write here? |
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| 19:04.45 | thc | syntaxx: i have zero experience with java on Debian, i don't even know what repositories you need to add. ask someone who knows. |
| 19:04.45 | Bjerrk | Um, i've got a problem. Debian (with kernel 2.6.12-1-686) doesn't detect my cd/dvd-drive. I don't know the exact name and model of the drive as it doesn't say on the vendor's website. What to do? |
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| 19:05.19 | aeronadix | where is the debian manial online? |
| 19:05.35 | yello | debian.org? |
| 19:05.44 | Seb | thc: you don't add anything |
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| 19:05.45 | thc | http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 19:05.53 | Seb | thc: you download a jdk/jre and use jaca-package |
| 19:05.54 | syntaxx | does anyone know how to add something to a sources list (do not say editor please) |
| 19:06.05 | Seb | syntaxx: with an editor |
| 19:06.07 | thc | Seb: i wouldn't know, i've said this three times: i never use java |
| 19:06.12 | Bjerrk | Seb: argh |
| 19:06.20 | versuchsanstalt | syntaxx: think notepad. |
| 19:06.25 | Seb | syntaxx: only answer to your question, really |
| 19:06.34 | FrdFlint | i am going to buy another scanner hoping it will work with sarge without a bunch of messing with it,i would like to know which scanner will do negatives and sets up easily |
| 19:06.41 | Seb | thc: why are you tellsyntaxx he needs to add repositories to get java then ? |
| 19:06.48 | flimmer | old analog tv << input new digital signal >> TV: "Hello, i dont understand this signal dude, im not gonna show anything"... |
| 19:06.52 | Seb | FrdFlint: sane.org |
| 19:06.55 | thc | Seb: someone else just told him to add some java repos. it was *NOT* me. |
| 19:07.01 | Seb | thc: ah |
| 19:07.12 | syntaxx | i just said i know about editors but you said it anyways, is that some sort of joke? |
| 19:07.15 | Seb | syntaxx: you don't need to add any repositories to get java. Ask dpkg about java install |
| 19:07.25 | versuchsanstalt | syntaxx: do you know what an editor is? |
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| 19:07.39 | FrdFlint | sane lists a bunch that works but doesnt tell you which ones set up with out grief, |
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| 19:07.53 | adi_ | what's the utility of "lost+found" directory ? |
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| 19:07.55 | Seb | FrdFlint: scour the net some more then |
| 19:07.56 | syntaxx | versuchsanstalt, are you blind, i just said yes |
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| 19:08.09 | syntaxx | versuchsanstalt, i just said dont mention them i know all about them |
| 19:08.10 | FrdFlint | are you using one? |
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| 19:08.19 | Seb | syntaxx: did you read what I said ? Are you blind ? |
| 19:08.21 | Seb | FrdFlint: nah |
| 19:08.27 | electron_ | anyone use dyndns? |
| 19:08.31 | syntaxx | seb, i dont need your help thank you |
| 19:08.31 | Bjerrk | Seb: Relax. |
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| 19:08.42 | Seb | syntaxx: very well |
| 19:08.44 | efaistos | why there is no print menu in gimp ? |
| 19:08.49 | aeronadix | Where is the xserver config file? |
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| 19:09.02 | thc | aeronadix: /etc/X11 |
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| 19:09.20 | electron_ | Enter the list of fully qualified domain names for x |
| 19:09.21 | electron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.21 | electron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.21 | electron_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:09.23 | thc | aeronadix: don't edit that file unless you know what hyou are diong |
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| 19:09.32 | aeronadix | what about the file for the xwindows config |
| 19:09.35 | thc | s/diong/doing/ |
| 19:09.36 | electron_ | what do I do there? |
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| 19:09.50 | thc | aeronadix: huh? |
| 19:09.53 | Seb | aeronadix: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Best edited through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:09.55 | electron_ | guardian.homelinux.net is the name I made but it doesn't work when I enter that |
| 19:09.59 | aeronadix | Seb thanks |
| 19:10.16 | Bac9 | anyone here use gtk-theme-switch? does it work for you? |
| 19:10.19 | aeronadix | thx thc |
| 19:10.26 | electron_ | hello? |
| 19:10.27 | Seb | dpkg tell electron_ about doesn't work |
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| 19:10.32 | antgel | !tell Bac9 about anyone |
| 19:10.32 | thc | aeronadix: that file will be different if you are running xorg |
| 19:10.35 | valdyn | !tell Bac9 -about ask |
| 19:10.43 | aeronadix | where is it for xorg? |
| 19:10.52 | thc | aeronadix: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:10.59 | Seb | aeronadix: dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep etc ;) |
| 19:11.12 | Bac9 | antgel, valdyn: just wanted to make sure I am not the onlyone who it doesn't work for before submitting a bug |
| 19:11.16 | electron_ | You know, it doesn't update my ip |
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| 19:11.36 | Seb | electron_: have you run the client that updates it ? |
| 19:11.40 | electron_ | what do I enter in that part? |
| 19:11.45 | antgel | Bac9: that's not the way to do it. what if 400 people all responde? |
| 19:11.46 | electron_ | ddclient? |
| 19:11.49 | Seb | electron_: yes |
| 19:11.59 | electron_ | you don't even know what I am talking about. |
| 19:12.06 | electron_ | obveously |
| 19:12.09 | Seb | electron_: i actually am using ddclient. |
| 19:12.13 | electron_ | obviously |
| 19:12.25 | Bac9 | antgel: if all 400 say it works fine then I'll not submit a bug, if they all say that it's broken and exibit same symptoms then I might submit a bug |
| 19:12.26 | electron_ | Okay, well, what do I enter in that line? |
| 19:12.28 | Seb | electron_: but since you're being an ass, why don't you find someone else to help you out with it ? |
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| 19:12.37 | valdyn | Bac9: check the bts, if your bug isnt there, enter it, there's no requirement for others to have the same bug |
| 19:12.39 | electron_ | Enter the list of fully qualified domain names |
| 19:12.39 | antgel | Bac9: it was a rhetorical question |
| 19:12.44 | electron_ | Im not |
| 19:12.46 | xoz | Bac9: you can use querybts |
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| 19:13.10 | kittenbot | Let you be the duck, and let #linuxhelp be the water. |
| 19:13.22 | Bac9 | valdyn: the bts doesn't have similar bug, but if it's just my config that's exibiting the bug I don't want to burden the bts |
| 19:13.28 | Seb | electron_: sure are. "12:12:19 electron_ | you don't even know what I am talking about.". Why making such assumptions when you're looking for help and are almost fully clueless ? |
| 19:13.31 | electron_ | please tell me |
| 19:13.34 | Seb | s/making/make/ |
| 19:13.38 | Bac9 | antgel: and you got a valid answer |
| 19:13.49 | reyes116 | hi |
| 19:13.51 | electron_ | just the way you said 'tell doesn't work' |
| 19:13.53 | kbx | Hallo, bin zurück. Jetzt läuft ALSA und die Devices /dev/dsp und /dev/dsp1 sind wieder da. Danke! |
| 19:13.53 | Bac9 | xoz: or I can just browse bugs for that package :-) |
| 19:13.57 | valdyn | Bac9: so, which of its many bugs is it? |
| 19:14.01 | electron_ | It's quite obvious what i ment |
| 19:14.01 | Seb | Bac9: it's ok, if it's only you the bug will be closed |
| 19:14.03 | antgel | Bac9: a bug is a bug. it's not a burden. somebody could come along tomorrow with that bug |
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| 19:14.05 | reyes116 | alguien que hable españnol? |
| 19:14.09 | thc | !es |
| 19:14.09 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:14.10 | Seb | electron_: no it's not |
| 19:14.11 | reyes116 | espanol? |
| 19:14.12 | electron_ | now back to it |
| 19:14.15 | Bac9 | valdyn: none of them seem even close |
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| 19:14.28 | reyes116 | necesito ayuda |
| 19:14.32 | Seb | electron_: maye the config tool crashed. maybe the lcient did. maybe it didn't crashed but didnn't do what it was supposed to either |
| 19:14.43 | valdyn | Bac9: yea, I was not referring to the bts. |
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| 19:15.00 | Bac9 | Seb, antgel: and a bug number will be used, and a worless bug report will be logged till the end of time or thereabouts |
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| 19:15.12 | Seb | Bac9: no, till the maintianer looks at it and closes it |
| 19:15.13 | Bac9 | valdyn: what were you refering to then? |
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| 19:15.19 | reyes116 | hi |
| 19:15.25 | reyes116 | i need help |
| 19:15.26 | Seb | Bac9: debian resources, especially as small as a new bug, ar enone of your concerns |
| 19:15.28 | valdyn | Bac9: to your bug, what is it? |
| 19:15.34 | Bac9 | Seb: closed bugs are archived till the end of time or thereabouts |
| 19:15.40 | gothtec | How can I make ctrl+alt+8 type a [ in X applications? I need ctrl+alt to do what Alt Gr does, like the default is in Windows, and even in DOS. |
| 19:15.40 | Seb | Bac9: why do you care ? |
| 19:15.52 | Seb | Bac9: do you have any idea what additional %age it's gonna represent ? |
| 19:15.54 | thc | reyes116: ask your question, in English. otherwise /j #debian-es |
| 19:15.55 | electron_ | so when it says 'Enter the list of fully qualified domain names' 'guardian.homelinux.net' is correct? |
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| 19:16.11 | reyes116 | hi thc |
| 19:16.16 | Bac9 | valdyn: doesn't write proper ~/.gtkrc-2.0, puts "(null)" for include path of gkrc theme file |
| 19:16.17 | reyes116 | i need help |
| 19:16.19 | marstewel | "You want to give the variable 'IQ' a value of 4. How would you do this? 1) IQ=4 -- 2) set IQ=4 -- 3) set $IQ=4 -- 4) IQ:=4" |
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| 19:16.31 | Seb | marstewel: IQ=4 |
| 19:16.34 | antgel | !tell marstewel about homework |
| 19:16.35 | valdyn | Bac9: i see, didnt know that one |
| 19:16.42 | Seb | marstewel: expot IQ=4 if you need it in child processes too |
| 19:16.45 | Seb | export |
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| 19:16.52 | bbrazil | marstewel: e) IQ <- 4; |
| 19:16.52 | antgel | that's the worst factoid in the world |
| 19:16.55 | Bac9 | Seb: I care because I don't feel like being archived unless it's absolutly nessesary (my concern is not for bts but for myself, yes I am selfish) |
| 19:17.05 | reyes116 | i can't to install my winmodem in ubuntu with kernel 2.6 |
| 19:17.06 | Seb | antgel: hrm, somehow that escaped me, my bad |
| 19:17.11 | antgel | Bac9: here's an idea. do what you want |
| 19:17.20 | Bac9 | valdyn: I was hoping to see if someone here can replicate it, if so I'll submit |
| 19:17.20 | antgel | !homework |
| 19:17.20 | dpkg | Given at strip joint, and the time for strip joint is during a recession. |
| 19:17.21 | thc | reyes116: we don't support #ubuntu |
| 19:17.21 | Seb | Bac9: what antgel just said |
| 19:17.25 | valdyn | reyes116: and why should we care? /j #ubuntu |
| 19:17.35 | electron_ | Seb, okay I think it's working now, does http://guardian.homelinux.net/ work for you? |
| 19:17.41 | Bac9 | antgel, Seb: :-) |
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| 19:17.51 | thc | reyes116: /j #ubuntu-es |
| 19:17.51 | marstewel | Seb: that is what I have chosen (IQ=4) |
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| 19:18.01 | Bac9 | valdyn: you have it installed by any chance and feel like trying it? |
| 19:18.02 | antgel | marstewel: you passed! |
| 19:18.03 | valdyn | Bac9: that package rarely does the right thing at all |
| 19:18.06 | marstewel | Seb: but Boson says this is wrong (LPIC-1 certification preparation) |
| 19:18.09 | valdyn | Bac9: but i have not seen that bug |
| 19:18.10 | Seb | electron_: did I say 'fuck you' already ? Maybe not. Here it is. |
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| 19:18.15 | Seb | marstewel: actually it might be wrong in some cases |
| 19:18.25 | Bac9 | valdyn: that package worked fine for me before |
| 19:18.27 | reyes116 | only i can to install winmodem in kernel 2.4? |
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| 19:18.38 | Seb | reyes116: /join #ubuntu |
| 19:18.40 | antgel | reyes116: no, lots of people can |
| 19:19.09 | reyes116 | and..... how? |
| 19:19.10 | Seb | marstewel: thing posix |
| 19:19.15 | Seb | marstewel: s/think/thing/ |
| 19:19.20 | Seb | hrm the owther way around |
| 19:19.44 | Bac9 | valdyn: if you have it installed try running switch2 and previewing a theme, does it print anything to stderr? |
| 19:20.03 | efaistos | why there is no print option in Gimp in unstable ? |
| 19:20.11 | valdyn | Bac9: nope |
| 19:20.19 | marstewel | well boson says: set $IQ=4 ... which well is wrong IMHO |
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| 19:20.56 | Seb | marstewel: yeah that's wrong |
| 19:21.14 | reyes116 | antgel |
| 19:21.17 | Bac9 | valdyn: and it previews all themes differently? (try 3 or so), it outputs 'Unable to find include file: "(null)"' for me |
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| 19:21.26 | valdyn | Bac9: im running sid, is used to be broken not to long ago |
| 19:21.40 | Bac9 | valdyn: sid has same version as etch |
| 19:21.44 | antgel | reyes116: i have no idea. install the driver? |
| 19:21.55 | valdyn | Bac9: no error there |
| 19:21.59 | marstewel | set example=4 gives _=example=4 |
| 19:22.13 | antgel | Bac9: there's millions of people using it in #ubuntu ;) |
| 19:22.15 | xfoxx | can i sue this command to format a NTFS HD partition and make it EXT3, (mke2fs -j /dev/hd) |
| 19:22.18 | reyes116 | yes, but i don't knowif the driver is running |
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| 19:22.26 | marstewel | and := is of course wrong ;) |
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| 19:22.34 | Bac9 | valdyn: anyway since you're not seeing a bug I guess there's no point in me filing a bug just for me, thanx |
| 19:22.37 | reyes116 | i don't know if the modem is running |
| 19:22.38 | Seb | xfoxx: /dev/hda1 for instance, but not /dev/hd |
| 19:22.40 | antgel | xfoxx: /dev/hd<partition number> |
| 19:22.48 | Bac9 | antgel: there are a million people using ubuntu? |
| 19:22.50 | Seb | antgel: heh, almost ;) |
| 19:22.55 | marstewel | antgel: not partition number ;) |
| 19:22.59 | thc | efaistos: apt-get install gimp-print |
| 19:23.03 | xfoxx | i know but taking away the ID of partition can i fotmat one NTF to make it EXT3?? |
| 19:23.07 | antgel | Bac9: feels like it |
| 19:23.20 | Bac9 | antgel: :-) |
| 19:23.21 | marstewel | antgel: /dev/(h|s)d[a-z][0-9]+ |
| 19:23.23 | valdyn | xfoxx: mkfs does not care about the ID at all |
| 19:23.24 | Seb | xfoxx: sure. But you need to set the partition type first using cfdisk or something like it |
| 19:23.39 | reyes116 | antgel: when i try to install the driver i read Installation Done |
| 19:23.40 | antgel | marstewel: smart arse :) |
| 19:23.51 | Seb | heh |
| 19:24.04 | reyes116 | how i can to know if my modem is running? |
| 19:24.05 | xfoxx | Seb, yeah i got it mounted but i wanna transform it from NTFS to EXT3 |
| 19:24.07 | Seb | reyes116: dude, proprietary drivers on ubuntu, wdf do oyu want from us ? |
| 19:24.07 | thc | reyes116: please stop asking for ubuntu support in this channel |
| 19:24.10 | antgel | reyes116: have you checked the logs? i have no idea. |
| 19:24.20 | Seb | xfoxx: unmount, run cfdisk, change partition type, format, rmeount |
| 19:24.21 | antgel | he's on ubuntu? jesus |
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| 19:24.28 | Seb | heh |
| 19:24.31 | marstewel | reyes116: running? what do you consider running? |
| 19:24.31 | antgel | !ubuntusmite reyes116 |
| 19:24.36 | thc | antgel: i was wondering why you were being so nice heh |
| 19:24.45 | Seb | marstewel: please stop, let him join #ubuntu |
| 19:24.45 | marstewel | reyes116: what does cat /proc/interrupts reveal ? |
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| 19:25.09 | marstewel | Seb: stop? I didnt start yet ;) |
| 19:25.18 | Seb | marstewel: you *are* starting :> |
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| 19:25.51 | marstewel | Seb: cat /proc/interrupts is just a pre-help step :P |
| 19:25.56 | reyes116 | sorry |
| 19:25.59 | reyes116 | working |
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| 19:26.09 | Seb | marstewel: we want him to go away, man |
| 19:26.11 | reyes116 | i don't know if my modem is working |
| 19:26.15 | marstewel | okay |
| 19:26.20 | reyes116 | how i can to know? |
| 19:26.24 | thc | Seb: he just went away, on my screen anyway |
| 19:26.33 | Seb | thc: the wonders of /ignore :> |
| 19:26.37 | thc | indeed! |
| 19:26.37 | valdyn | reyes116: you best shut up and ask for ubuntu support in the proper channel |
| 19:26.44 | Seb | thc: i work for the greater good ;) |
| 19:26.47 | marstewel | valdyn: be nice plz |
| 19:26.53 | antgel | reyes116: please go to #ubuntu. thank you |
| 19:26.55 | valdyn | marstewel: only once |
| 19:26.56 | Seb | marstewel: at this point this is nice enough |
| 19:27.04 | reyes116 | ok sorry alot |
| 19:27.07 | Seb | marstewel: he's been told enough times already |
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| 19:27.37 | antgel | Seb: he's alright though. not a typical ubuntcock |
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| 19:27.43 | marstewel | reyes116: please join #ubuntu and ask there (think of if your modem is a modem with a signal processor or if it is a "winmodem" check if IRQ assignments have been done, etc) |
| 19:27.47 | bucky | reyes116, type pppconf and act like you know what you're doing |
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| 19:27.51 | Seb | antgel: i agree. But that's just cause his english skills are limited ;) |
| 19:27.56 | Seb | bucky: please no, stop it now |
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| 19:28.10 | philth | can someone nmap me? and send me results? |
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| 19:28.19 | antgel | Seb: but most of the english-speaking ones have limited english skills :P |
| 19:28.19 | bucky | hi lilo :) |
| 19:28.25 | valdyn | philth: why dont you portscan yourself? |
| 19:28.27 | jim | philthy... |
| 19:28.28 | thc | philth: nmap localhost |
| 19:28.35 | marstewel | s/lilo/grub/ |
| 19:28.39 | valdyn | philth: via one of various websites providing that service |
| 19:28.44 | xfoxx | Seb, i ran cfdisk and got this error, FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap Press any key to exit cfdisk |
| 19:28.45 | valdyn | !portscan |
| 19:28.46 | Seb | hrm, people, obviosuly scanning form localhost won't hit the same fw rules |
| 19:28.49 | philth | can't i'm inside the firewall |
| 19:28.53 | thc | ah |
| 19:28.53 | philth | all ports sho open, |
| 19:28.57 | Seb | philth: get an account on metawire.org |
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| 19:29.17 | antgel | philth: www.symantec.com has one if you have an IE machine |
| 19:29.29 | thc | you could try #portscan on EFnet, they used to have bots that would scan you and msg you the results |
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| 19:29.33 | marstewel | symantec should not be mentioned in the same sentence as security ;) |
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| 19:29.36 | Seb | philth: you can't come in here and ask for a portscan evertime you change a fw rule. Work on getting an external account somewhere. |
| 19:29.38 | Zap-W | in what file do i set cpu/memory limitations for users |
| 19:29.46 | antgel | marstewel: i didn't :) |
| 19:29.51 | Zap-W | a pam module mayb |
| 19:29.52 | Zap-W | e |
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| 19:30.02 | antgel | Zap-W: /etc/security/limits.conf? |
| 19:30.04 | philth | Seb, will you give me an account? |
| 19:30.04 | marstewel | Zap-W: /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 19:30.10 | philth | Seb, :P |
| 19:30.11 | marstewel | damn antgel |
| 19:30.13 | Seb | philth: metawire.org is not mine. apply |
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| 19:30.17 | marstewel | you typed faster ;) |
| 19:30.31 | Seb | marstewel: and with an additional character too. Loser :> |
| 19:30.38 | Zap-W | this has nothing to do with SElinux ah? |
| 19:30.46 | Seb | no |
| 19:31.05 | jim | why, are yourunning that/ |
| 19:31.07 | jim | ? |
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| 19:31.29 | marstewel | Zap-W: you can then add the limits pam module (uses /etc/security/limits.conf) |
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| 19:31.33 | Seb | see y'all later |
| 19:31.34 | Zap-W | me ? Selinux? |
| 19:31.45 | thc | later |
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| 19:31.55 | marstewel | Seb: bye bye |
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| 19:32.17 | jim | off doesn't necessarily mean gone :) |
| 19:32.59 | marstewel | well but probably gone from kbd |
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| 19:33.14 | nullman | what tool can i use to convert xvid video to mpeg? |
| 19:33.19 | jim | or deranged in some way... just kinda off :) |
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| 19:33.29 | ben_der | hey jim... this is what i'm about to do... dd if=/dev/hda of=backup.filename bs=512 count=1 |
| 19:33.40 | ben_der | this is to backup the mbr rigth ? |
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| 19:34.08 | jim | yes, that will save the mbr |
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| 19:34.09 | ben_der | like this i can install grub to the mbr |
| 19:34.14 | marstewel | heh #ubuntu is fun to follow (ro) *g* |
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| 19:34.23 | flimmer | philth: got results ? |
| 19:34.27 | ben_der | and if it fails, i can restore it by witching if and of |
| 19:34.33 | humbolt | If I am adding myself to a certain group which is allowed to write to a certain dir, do I really have to log out and in again to make me an effective member of the group? |
| 19:34.39 | Zap-W | marstewel: is there a module that denies running certain apps ? |
| 19:34.40 | Rez | humbolt: yes |
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| 19:34.52 | humbolt | Rez: Why is that? |
| 19:34.54 | marstewel | Zap-W: hmm |
| 19:34.57 | jim | humbolt: you tell us: type groups before and after |
| 19:35.04 | jim | humbolt: you tell us: type groups before and after |
| 19:35.04 | Rez | humbolt: because you get your groups on login |
| 19:35.10 | Rez | jim: eh? |
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| 19:35.14 | marstewel | Zap-W: what about fs perms? |
| 19:35.15 | antgel | marstewel: yeah. i couldn't take it for long but i must say it's good to see so many using linux. but lots of questions from people who can't do anything in the shell |
| 19:35.16 | Rez | hard of hearing? |
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| 19:35.48 | flimmer | Hiya CAiRO |
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| 19:35.53 | Quarak | Can anyone here shed some light on an installation problem please. Trying to install Debian on a A7N8X based machine onto a RAID 0 using the built in Sil 3112A SATA RAID controller. INstallation hangs at detecting hardware to fiind CDROM drives, Loadig module 'sd_mod' for SCSI disk support |
| 19:35.57 | CAiRO | in your opinion, which spam filter is better, qsf or bogofilter? |
| 19:36.00 | jim | you're handing him the answer... give him a way to discover it on his own |
| 19:36.00 | antgel | marstewel: they also have a totally different attitude to swearing. it's nice on the surface but a little bit big brother for me :) |
| 19:36.01 | humbolt | and there is no way to reread the groups when I am already logged in? |
| 19:36.04 | flimmer | philth: ssh, auth, napster |
| 19:36.24 | eNcoR3 | could some one tel me what are the ruqired tcl library files in Debian to connect an IRC eggdrop bot to an irc server?? |
| 19:36.31 | humbolt | jim, Rez: this kind of suxx |
| 19:36.37 | CAiRO | hi flimmer |
| 19:36.45 | jim | humbolt: whatever... run windows then |
| 19:36.53 | jim | better, run anything you want |
| 19:36.54 | antgel | humbolt: then provide appropriate patches |
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| 19:37.03 | electron_ | Is there some program for debian for making html websites easy, kinda like frontpage |
| 19:37.08 | Quarak | I suppose its a boot option but the chipset isn't mentioned on th f1 help and google isn't helping ody |
| 19:37.15 | marstewel | frontpage? *vomits* |
| 19:37.21 | mrpickles444 | electron_ , why wont you hand code ? |
| 19:37.26 | antgel | electron_: everyone will say vi, emacs, and i agree, but you could try bluefish |
| 19:37.34 | flimmer | CAiRO: new things are a brewin ;) .. wintendoz on the adminside looks VerY pale :) |
| 19:37.54 | humbolt | antgel: I like you comment better than jim's! |
| 19:38.05 | Zap-W | marstewel: sure i could do that , but hunting down 400 executables isn't practical |
| 19:38.08 | flimmer | new LFS dist with one command! .. i pwn :) |
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| 19:38.16 | marstewel | 400 ? |
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| 19:38.19 | marstewel | wtf |
| 19:38.25 | Zap-W | marstewel: and manually changing permissions for each , i mean.. |
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| 19:38.31 | marstewel | manually? |
| 19:38.33 | jim | humbolt: but if you discover these things for yourself often enough, you'll get a better result than just being fed answers |
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| 19:38.36 | marstewel | find and xargs |
| 19:38.51 | Zap-W | that's dirty |
| 19:38.56 | jim | it's better for YOU (and better for us: you won't have to ask as often |
| 19:39.01 | marstewel | depends what you want do do Zap-W |
| 19:39.10 | marstewel | s/do/to/ |
| 19:39.13 | xfoxx | how can i modify the lilo??? |
| 19:39.26 | antgel | !tell xfoxx about vague |
| 19:39.29 | marstewel | xfoxx: /etc/lilo.conf |
| 19:39.30 | jim | lilo: how can you be modified? |
| 19:39.30 | nkuttler | xfoxx: try man lilo |
| 19:39.47 | electron_ | I have bluefish but it's hard for me atm, I have just started |
| 19:39.48 | eNcoR3 | could some one tel me what are the ruqired tcl library files in Debian to connect an IRC eggdrop bot to an irc server?? |
| 19:39.52 | marstewel | xfoxx: dont forget to run lilo after your modifications |
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| 19:40.14 | antgel | electron_: stop moaning and use a text editor! |
| 19:40.23 | electron_ | I don't know how? |
| 19:40.29 | jim | electron_: google for "learn html in 21 minutes" |
| 19:40.31 | Zap-W | marstewel: how to see wich pam modules are currently loaded |
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| 19:40.35 | antgel | electron_: then read the documentation |
| 19:40.41 | mrpickles444 | electron_ what distro do you run ? |
| 19:40.45 | xfoxx | nkuttler, man lilo doesnt make a function, it says not available |
| 19:40.51 | antgel | probably unstable |
| 19:41.07 | flimmer | CAiRO: due to logging i refuse my real nick openblogger.com etc |
| 19:41.11 | marstewel | Zap-W: you probably want to check out http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html |
| 19:41.15 | jim | xfoxx: then either lilo is not installed or else it's a documentation bug |
| 19:41.38 | eNcoR3 | anybody knows tcl packages with debian?? |
| 19:41.41 | eNcoR3 | pls help me |
| 19:41.43 | flimmer | CAiRO: im angrified at that site and i think itll go down... i want it to :) |
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| 19:42.17 | jim | eNcoR3: /msg dpkg sicco then ask a different question |
| 19:42.17 | flimmer | so take the site down and stop logging |
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| 19:42.34 | _rene_ | electron_: there's mozilla composer and/or nvu but you don't want to use them. as editor, you want to use quanta I guess. has some nice features helping beginners in HTML-writing |
| 19:42.50 | xfoxx | does grub, got to do something with this??, cause i have another partitio where the grub and Master Table was installed tho, and i formated itdo you think it could damage the booting.ini?? |
| 19:42.59 | antgel | eNcoR3: if someone knows the answer they will help |
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| 19:43.05 | eNcoR3 | ok |
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| 19:43.11 | antgel | *plonl* |
| 19:43.14 | antgel | doh |
| 19:43.14 | eNcoR3 | seems nobody knows abt it rite?? |
| 19:43.17 | flimmer | telnet zim 113; 1, 1 | tr -d"slimzim" && ipwn |
| 19:43.27 | mrpickles444 | electron_ , something tells me if you can't remember basic html tags and css then you might not want to spend a lot of time in linux |
| 19:43.29 | jim | eNcoR3: /msg dpkg smart questions |
| 19:43.37 | jim | eNcoR3: /msg dpkg ask |
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| 19:43.40 | jim | eNcoR3: /msg dpkg ask to ask |
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| 19:44.04 | marstewel | jim: or /msg jim ? :P |
| 19:44.05 | eNcoR3 | i wanna the requied tcl libraries to function an eggdrop bot on debian |
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| 19:44.14 | jim | nono DO NOT msg me. |
| 19:44.24 | jim | not ever, without asking. |
| 19:44.34 | eNcoR3 | can one thing i found on debian is that it requires tcl with its dev package |
| 19:44.48 | jim | eNcoR3: yes, so install that :) |
| 19:44.49 | Wibble- | can he ask then message you without waiting for an answer? :P |
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| 19:45.00 | marstewel | eNcoR3: you can make use of ldd to find out required libs |
| 19:45.02 | eNcoR3 | but it did not work even wen i install it |
| 19:45.03 | jim | Wibble-: see above |
| 19:45.08 | Quarak | Well to answer my own question, use a 2.6 series kernel |
| 19:45.20 | eNcoR3 | what u mean " ldd" ?? |
| 19:45.25 | jim | eNcoR3: did you try reconfiguring? |
| 19:45.26 | marstewel | eNcoR3: man 5 ldd |
| 19:45.27 | stew | eNcoR3: what are you trying to compile? |
| 19:45.29 | antgel | *plonk* |
| 19:45.40 | eNcoR3 | stew: its an eggdrop irc bot |
| 19:45.49 | marstewel | stew: compile? uups didnt read that ;) |
| 19:45.49 | stew | eNcoR3: why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 19:45.51 | eNcoR3 | it compiles fine but did not connect to IRC |
| 19:46.08 | jim | eNcoR3: so tcl is not the problem |
| 19:46.14 | stew | eNcoR3: why aren't you using the debian package? |
| 19:46.19 | flimmer | eNcoR3: checks what the app is linked against |
| 19:46.20 | eNcoR3 | stew: i think apt-get only works with the root, but i want the eggdrop to be installed as users |
| 19:46.31 | stew | eNcoR3: and you don't have root? |
| 19:46.32 | brady__ | anybody know of an imagemagick irc channel? apparently, it is not #imagemagick |
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| 19:46.44 | eNcoR3 | stew: i hav root access |
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| 19:46.56 | jcurry | What do i do if cups tells me my printer is on fire? |
| 19:47.07 | jim | eNcoR3: so you will not be able to bind/listen any ports below 1024 |
| 19:47.14 | eNcoR3 | but its not a good idea to run eggdrops as root |
| 19:47.18 | brady__ | jcurry, put it out |
| 19:47.23 | stew | eNcoR3: i don't understand why you don't just use the debian package, but anyway, "apt-cache depends eggdrop" would tell you what packages you should need |
| 19:47.23 | jim | jcurry: pour water on your printer! |
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| 19:47.40 | stew | eNcoR3: the debian eggdrop package wouldn't run as root |
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| 19:47.44 | jim | (and then put out the resulting electrical fire :) |
| 19:47.51 | eNcoR3 | thnx stew :D |
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| 19:48.36 | eNcoR3 | jim: am using ports above 1024 |
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| 19:48.47 | jcurry | Gah! i have to print my report...i'm not joking, guys? |
| 19:48.56 | flimmer | jim: or buy a rico aficio big bad longrunning one... its the best printer ever, it just works and ive used every other printer as well |
| 19:49.14 | flimmer | jim: expensive but the best |
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| 19:49.51 | jim | well I kinda like my hp 4050 :) |
| 19:49.59 | Ronin | eNcoR3: bot doesnt connect? checked the log files of course |
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| 19:50.11 | flimmer | jim: hp aint bad... but rico kicks their asses |
| 19:50.20 | flimmer | jim: we buy both |
| 19:50.23 | marstewel | eNcoR3: also see if you can increase the log level |
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| 19:50.37 | jim | it prints pages... black stuff gets on the paper... |
| 19:50.44 | jim | works for me :) |
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| 19:50.52 | saik0 | Can someone tell me what this line means in inetd.conf. I think it's for running samba through inetd. When i installed samba from apt it asked if i wanted ro run deamon or through inet...I picked daemon. Whats bothering me is SWAT wont work unless i uncomment that line. SO confused |
| 19:50.56 | saik0 | netbios-ssnstreamtcpnowaitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/smbd |
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| 19:51.00 | flimmer | jim: lol, no color lasers ? |
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| 19:51.14 | jim | nope, I don't want the hassle |
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| 19:51.39 | jim | if I want a color print, I'll print separations |
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| 19:51.41 | BNE | did i miss something? where did the XF86Config file go? I don't seem to have one, X11 just did everything by itself. |
| 19:51.45 | xfoxx | how can i configure my locale, i am getting this error message, perl: warning: Setting locale failed.perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_DO:en_US:en_GB:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "es_DO"...., and dpkg-reconfigure locale doesnt seem to do the trick |
| 19:51.49 | eNcoR3 | Ronin it even did not create any log file, but the bot's conf file is setup to log |
| 19:52.00 | marstewel | BNE: /etc/X11/ |
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| 19:52.04 | jim | BNE: look in /etc/X11 |
| 19:52.08 | flimmer | jim: ours also clamps the pages together and can write on both sides etc etc (i swear to gowd id not sink so low as to be a printer monger or developer :) |
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| 19:52.14 | Ronin | eNcoR3: how did you start it? ./eggdrop botname -m ? |
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| 19:52.28 | BNE | jim: it is not there. |
| 19:52.29 | Ronin | eNcoR3: also try #eggdrop they live and breath those damn things |
| 19:52.41 | jim | must be missing... |
| 19:52.42 | flimmer | jim: im just a dev |
| 19:52.48 | marstewel | BNE: what kind of information would you like to look up BNE? |
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| 19:53.02 | Wibble- | BNE: debian now uses xorg, the file is xorg.conf not XF86Config |
| 19:53.05 | jim | I'm only a dev... I'm going to the capital bev... |
| 19:53.11 | BNE | marstewel: i would like to add a modeline so i get higher refresh rates |
| 19:53.37 | marstewel | BNE: are you on Debian/SID ? |
| 19:53.41 | dpower | Ronin: try #egghelp |
| 19:53.44 | flimmer | jim: well, im making all the gnome admin apps and so on so maybe a bit more |
| 19:53.50 | Ronin | dpower: oops ya thats the one |
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| 19:53.53 | BNE | marstewel: i see, evrythings in xorg.conf. i am using debian testing. |
| 19:54.00 | dpower | eNcoR3: * |
| 19:54.02 | Ronin | been a while since i ran any eggdrops :) |
| 19:54.10 | BNE | marstewel: fresh install from a webinstall-image |
| 19:54.11 | jim | flimmer: and packaging them, etc? |
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| 19:54.34 | Dontlog | jim: not for other dists mostly |
| 19:54.37 | marstewel | +g |
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| 19:54.52 | Dontlog | jim: i just spend years coding them |
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| 19:55.15 | jim | I hooked up an eggdrop with the openacs db api... |
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| 19:55.37 | jim | very nice |
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| 19:56.24 | marstewel | does the d-i complain when you dont add a swap partition? ;) |
| 19:56.48 | jim | marstewel: maybe, but I don't see why it would |
| 19:56.55 | mrwill | marstewel: whether or not it does, you should, because otherwise things can really go wrong if you use up all your physical ram. |
| 19:56.57 | jim | other than as a reminder |
| 19:57.17 | marstewel | mrwill: I'm on 4 GB ram ... |
| 19:57.39 | jim | I'm on 1000 mgs of vitamin c |
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| 19:57.54 | marstewel | jim: well in theory you can install without swap |
| 19:58.05 | jim | sure |
| 19:58.15 | marstewel | debootstrap if the d-i does nto allow it :P |
| 19:58.18 | adi_ | are there good packet sniffers on linux ? |
| 19:58.26 | mrwill | adi_: sure, like ethereal for instance? |
| 19:58.43 | adi_ | i dunno , beggining with that |
| 19:58.44 | jim | adi_: yes, but the only kind they will sniff is good ones... |
| 19:59.09 | mrwill | jim: you need a bad packet sniffer to sniff bad packets, eh? |
| 19:59.28 | adi_ | wow it took 3 min to understand the joke |
| 19:59.29 | marstewel | damn 3 mistakes in 430 questions |
| 19:59.30 | jim | you said it george :) |
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| 19:59.42 | marstewel | f*cking X ;) |
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| 20:00.08 | Juul | how do i prevent dhcpd from offering to local interfaces? |
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| 20:00.22 | Seraphinez | Juul: gdhcpd! :) |
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| 20:00.28 | findme | Juul, do you want to retain your name servers |
| 20:00.38 | Seraphinez | gbindns |
| 20:00.48 | Matalo_ | could someone help me i create user account with useradd and i am using also -p argument but password i use is not working when i later try to log on |
| 20:00.53 | jim | Juul: you have to write the subnet specs in the config file and don't put any addresses to offer there |
| 20:01.06 | marstewel | Matalo_: -p is not password its the ENCRYPTED password |
| 20:01.10 | bucky | Matalo_, use adduser |
| 20:01.15 | iostream | Hi.. Anyone here who have read 'Otherland' by Tad Williams? |
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| 20:01.39 | Matalo_ | ok and how can i encrypt password ? |
| 20:01.45 | jim | crypt |
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| 20:02.28 | Matalo_ | how i dont have program crypt |
| 20:02.30 | Juul | hmm |
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| 20:02.34 | jim | get it :) |
| 20:02.37 | bucky | Matalo_, is there a reason you need to make your own encrypted password when adduser will do that automagically for you? |
| 20:02.39 | Matalo_ | i see ;) |
| 20:02.45 | jim | (sheesh... gotta tell him everything :) |
| 20:02.46 | Juul | i'll go look at that config file some more |
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| 20:03.05 | Matalo_ | hmm ok so i try to use adduser |
| 20:03.09 | adi_ | can ethereal sniff on wifis connections? |
| 20:03.15 | Matalo_ | i just had ready script with useradd |
| 20:03.27 | jim | it's easier... but you can also use crypt and useradd |
| 20:03.32 | jim | or newusers |
| 20:03.34 | marstewel | adi_: what are you trying to archieve ? |
| 20:03.46 | Seraphinez | Matalo_: install openssl-engines and openssl |
| 20:03.47 | octoberdan | I can't figure out how to delete a file named --help.tgz.. If I try ' |
| 20:03.57 | Seraphinez | Matalo_: then you have crypt |
| 20:03.59 | octoberdan | 'rm *.tgz' I get rm: unrecognised option `--help.tgz' |
| 20:04.07 | Matalo_ | oki thanks a lot |
| 20:04.10 | Seraphinez | octoberdan: get GNU mc |
| 20:04.12 | findme | octoberdan, which rm |
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| 20:04.23 | octoberdan | findme: no clue |
| 20:04.27 | Seraphinez | Matalo_: np |
| 20:04.31 | findme | $which rm |
| 20:04.43 | Seraphinez | its a catch 22 |
| 20:04.53 | jim | octoberdan: you have to tell rm that there are no more options coming |
| 20:05.01 | octoberdan | bin/rm |
| 20:05.07 | nderjm | I'm trying to setup a PowerMac with root on LVM. Anyone with any experience doing this? |
| 20:05.11 | Seraphinez | robe!!! |
| 20:05.12 | jim | or give full path to file to rm |
| 20:05.13 | Seraphinez | :) |
| 20:05.25 | findme | octoberdan, /bin/rm or bin/rm? |
| 20:05.29 | marstewel | nderjm: do you know what you are doing? (root on LVM) |
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| 20:05.39 | adi_ | marstewel, it will be a little bit complicated to explain : to make it short, my work at school is to introduce efficiency of encryption. thence i'd like to make an example on what can return a packet sniffer. add to this that my girlfriend has wifi at home .. |
| 20:05.46 | octoberdan | findme: /bin/rm |
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| 20:05.52 | jim | root on lvm? bad juju unless you have rescue media that has lvm support enabled in its kernel |
| 20:06.07 | nderjm | marstewel: I know what I want to do, but not sure how to make it work |
| 20:06.19 | octoberdan | rm ./--help.tgz worked, thanks for the help! |
| 20:06.20 | marstewel | nderjm: it is a bad idea... |
| 20:06.40 | nderjm | marstewel: perhaps, but id like to know how to do it |
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| 20:07.09 | jim | that's not a bad reason to do it... |
| 20:07.27 | jim | but remember that someday you might have to back up |
| 20:07.31 | nderjm | besides, there are LiveCDs with LVM support |
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| 20:07.57 | nderjm | Im not worried about backup, right now this is POC |
| 20:08.02 | nderjm | proof of concept |
| 20:08.04 | jim | well there ya go then... you could restore from your backup using that (or rather, you need to make sure you can) |
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| 20:08.57 | jim | there's probably a howto out there that shows how |
| 20:09.27 | octoberdan | GNU mc is awesome! Thanks! |
| 20:09.36 | nderjm | I've been Googling all day. Havent found any. Though I recall coming accross one before |
| 20:09.45 | tarzeau | octoberdan: midnight commander? |
| 20:09.51 | octoberdan | octoberdan: yeah |
| 20:10.55 | octoberdan | Is there a better 'cat'? |
| 20:11.02 | octoberdan | one that allows you to scroll through? |
| 20:11.05 | jim | http://www.midhgard.it/docs/lvm/html/ |
| 20:11.16 | marstewel | octoberdan: use "more" |
| 20:11.21 | tarzeau | or less |
| 20:11.25 | marstewel | or less |
| 20:11.31 | marstewel | more or less |
| 20:11.35 | marstewel | sounds nice :D |
| 20:11.37 | jim | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/02/msg05104.html |
| 20:11.51 | octoberdan | Thanks yet again |
| 20:11.51 | jim | and that's just on the first page |
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| 20:12.14 | jim | if you say you've been googling all day, you're not yet a good googler :) |
| 20:12.24 | marstewel | lol jim |
| 20:13.01 | adi_ | aze |
| 20:13.29 | nderjm | jim: not necessarily, ive just found references to it, but nothing concrete |
| 20:13.40 | pzn | Hi. I have a wallpaper manager that downloads images from a site. It replaces the file $HOME/wallpaper.jpg I'd like gnome to re-read wallpaper; which command can I use to tell gnome to do it? |
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| 20:14.28 | tarzeau | pzn: #gnome |
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| 20:15.21 | pzn | tarzeau, ok. thanks! |
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| 20:16.12 | jim | someone kline @201.138.3.244 |
| 20:16.33 | jim | and 85.97.39.117 |
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| 20:19.05 | streuner | jim: it seems debhelper listen to your wishes :-) |
| 20:20.09 | jim | that's cool as far as it went :) |
| 20:20.21 | thingfish | hehe yeah that's pretty wild |
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| 20:21.01 | thingfish | I've been thinking that for a while. |
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| 20:24.02 | eNcoR3 | jim; still i could not connect it |
| 20:24.14 | jim | then find out why |
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| 20:24.20 | eNcoR3 | i have installed all libs i guess |
| 20:24.30 | eNcoR3 | i could not find out y |
| 20:24.33 | eNcoR3 | :S |
| 20:24.40 | jim | then we're stuck |
| 20:24.47 | eNcoR3 | ohh |
| 20:25.10 | jim | it does sound like the code is running |
| 20:25.17 | eNcoR3 | am recompiling it, so it might work after recompilation rite |
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| 20:25.47 | jim | not sure... if it didn't connect before and you dont' know why, then how would recompiling help? |
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| 20:26.21 | yzrider088 | whats a good IDE that is free for C |
| 20:26.27 | jim | emacs |
| 20:26.36 | yzrider088 | it shows errors while you are coding? |
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| 20:26.50 | jim | why would it do that? |
| 20:26.51 | yzrider088 | like design time not runtime |
| 20:27.03 | yzrider088 | does it have a GUI |
| 20:27.15 | jim | to a degree yes |
| 20:27.30 | meff | hell, emacs is an OS :) |
| 20:27.38 | jim | what errors would it show while you're coding? |
| 20:27.59 | yzrider088 | syntax for example |
| 20:28.02 | jim | "Took too long going to bathroom. you must restart for me to recognize this change." |
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| 20:28.12 | error403 | yzrider088, you looked at Eclipse? |
| 20:28.16 | yzrider088 | nope is that free |
| 20:28.19 | error403 | yes |
| 20:28.24 | error403 | www.eclipse.org |
| 20:28.24 | yzrider088 | cool |
| 20:28.25 | dondelelcaro | or emacs or vim or... |
| 20:28.31 | jim | I guess you could look at netbeans |
| 20:28.36 | Om | I wouldn't bother with Eclipse unless you have 4gb of spare RAM |
| 20:28.41 | jim | but that's for java |
| 20:28.42 | dondelelcaro | any editor with decent syntax hilighting will show syntax errors. |
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| 20:29.06 | error403 | what is it with all these hardcore "I use vim because i have 2kb of RAM and i dont like helpful user interfaces" people? |
| 20:29.11 | jim | yzrider088: otoh, you can also use your mind :) |
| 20:29.34 | jim | error403: primarily history |
| 20:29.38 | yzrider088 | its not for me anyways |
| 20:29.42 | yzrider088 | i use VI personally |
| 20:29.44 | error403 | exactly |
| 20:29.52 | dondelelcaro | error403: people like their tools modularized, fast, and customizable. |
| 20:30.00 | thingfish | error403: some people need to feel that they are part of an elite group. |
| 20:30.01 | dondelelcaro | error403: most IDEs don't really fit that bill |
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| 20:30.04 | error403 | dondelelcaro, yeah... |
| 20:30.08 | error403 | I would disagree |
| 20:30.16 | error403 | the 2 i use, work great for me |
| 20:30.18 | jim | yeahno! |
| 20:30.20 | dondelelcaro | error403: *shrug*; that's why we have 8 billion IDEs |
| 20:30.21 | error403 | and can be streamlines |
| 20:30.22 | jim | maybeso! |
| 20:31.35 | dondelelcaro | you'll find that many people who have been working historically use the traditional (emacs|vim)+gmake+gdb+gcc... and I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up there was well. |
| 20:31.45 | error403 | dondelelcaro, i just think that for larger projects, people need to drop the delusions of "l33tness", and use something that has project/class overviews, code collapsing, navigation, etc, where it would be helpful |
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| 20:32.06 | dondelelcaro | error403: vim and emacs have all of that stuff, actually... |
| 20:32.09 | yzrider088 | VS.NET is a good IDE for windows...butt not much helpful on *nix |
| 20:32.49 | dondelelcaro | blech |
| 20:33.04 | error403 | dondelelcaro, yes - but i have used both emacs and vim, and the lack of project management annoys the hell out of me... |
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| 20:33.24 | jim | you should look at the things emacs will do, it does the basic things such as syntax hiliting, auto/semiauto indent, debug, compile error thing |
| 20:33.24 | yzrider088 | so emacs will report syntax errors? |
| 20:33.33 | jim | no gcc will |
| 20:33.39 | jim | but emacs can call gcc |
| 20:33.46 | astronut | how can you specify version with apt-get? |
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| 20:33.55 | halibut | how can I play midi files under linux? it is one of the few things I find myself loading windows for |
| 20:34.10 | jim | and error lines you get in the emacs window can be clicked on to pull up the source at the point of the error |
| 20:34.31 | octoberdan | holy shit, I never new that... |
| 20:34.32 | Mr-R | jim: timidity |
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| 20:34.38 | error403 | dondelelcaro, any answer to the project management issue? |
| 20:34.39 | rafx | astronut: i use packagename/stable or packagename/testing. if you want specific version number, then specify that inside the packagename |
| 20:34.42 | jim | meee? |
| 20:34.45 | pzn | halibut, you mean play in your soundcard, or playing in external music keyboard? |
| 20:34.47 | Mr-R | jim: sorry |
| 20:34.53 | jim | np :) |
| 20:34.55 | Mr-R | halibut: timidity |
| 20:34.56 | dondelelcaro | error403: what in particular about project management are you talking about? class views? |
| 20:35.01 | halibut | pzn, playing on my soundcard, I only have crappy onboard sound |
| 20:35.09 | astronut | rafx: syntax? |
| 20:35.12 | error403 | dondelelcaro, the other thing is, i find code completion very useful, especially when it can read the rest of MY code |
| 20:35.27 | pzn | halibut, they check Mr-R hint: package timidity |
| 20:35.34 | octoberdan | too bad you cant apt-get install emacs... |
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| 20:35.45 | jim | you can |
| 20:35.50 | jim | try emacs21 |
| 20:35.57 | error403 | dondelelcaro, i'm on about being able to treat a group of files as a project, and analyse them all together - you click on a class, it goes to the declaration of that class, in the right file |
| 20:36.01 | dondelelcaro | error403: there are some electric code completion bits available; I personally find it totally useless. |
| 20:36.06 | octoberdan | oh... |
| 20:36.09 | octoberdan | wow, thanks! |
| 20:36.18 | error403 | dondelelcaro, you find it useless? |
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| 20:36.43 | jim | thaaaat's what he said :) |
| 20:36.43 | dondelelcaro | error403: yes, because I can type faster than the silly things can search for whatever they're looking for in most cases; |
| 20:36.53 | error403 | dondelelcaro, not in my experience |
| 20:36.59 | dondelelcaro | error403: however, there are class browsers and the like available for almost all of the available languages. |
| 20:37.06 | error403 | I run on a computer which has LOTS of power to spare |
| 20:37.09 | jim | usually the way to close is "}" |
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| 20:37.11 | dondelelcaro | error403: *shrug* then it may be important for you; It doesn't matter to me. |
| 20:37.32 | infinity1 | anyone know the deal with debian being behind on 2.6 kernels? |
| 20:37.34 | error403 | I use Zend for PHP editing, and i tell the code completion box to not have a delay... |
| 20:37.46 | jim | error403: got power? can I plug in my bass amp? :) |
| 20:38.04 | error403 | jim, you know what i mean... :P |
| 20:38.04 | jim | takes more power than a heater... |
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| 20:38.26 | electron_ | Im having trouble with bluefish, when I insert an image, then firefox wont load it |
| 20:38.27 | error403 | I mean, Athlon64 3500+, with 1GB of RAM, i dont get IDE slowdown |
| 20:39.00 | rafx | astronut: you can specify 'apt-get -s' and experiment without fear or use 'man apt-get' |
| 20:39.09 | jim | nice concept,,, menus took 30secs min sometimes to just open |
| 20:39.27 | astronut | rafx: the /unstable worked, thank you |
| 20:39.58 | octoberdan | How much fast is an Athlon64 3500+ over a Athlon 3500+? |
| 20:40.06 | Coweater | electron_: check the path, might be a full path when it should be relative |
| 20:40.10 | octoberdan | *faster |
| 20:40.22 | electron_ | ? |
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| 20:40.46 | Coweater | octoberdan: there is no athlon 3500+ |
| 20:40.47 | electron_ | apache is /var/www and I have the index.html in the and the file.gif |
| 20:40.49 | electron_ | and it wont load |
| 20:40.54 | error403 | octoberdan, a little... not clock-speed wise, but performance wise... |
| 20:41.03 | Coweater | electrofreak: yes, check the path in the html |
| 20:41.08 | error403 | octoberdan, you can overclock the hell out of it though |
| 20:41.09 | sybec | where do I find "testing" netinstall .. floppy images (!?) |
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| 20:41.51 | octoberdan | error403: I'm considering moving my server onto a 64bit machine... |
| 20:42.10 | electron_ | My server is a Alpha running OpenVMS |
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| 20:42.55 | electron_ | http://laughingsquid.com/2005/08/11/netbsd-toaster/ rofl |
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| 20:43.39 | infinity1 | where can i get the latest debian kernel-source? |
| 20:44.03 | thingfish | infinity1: for which version of debian? |
| 20:44.18 | dondelelcaro | infinity1: from your local debian mirror, of course. |
| 20:44.30 | infinity1 | dondelelcaro: thats what i though. i only see 2.6.8 ? |
| 20:44.52 | infinity1 | dondelelcaro: am i blind? |
| 20:44.56 | dondelelcaro | infinity1: that's the latest that has been released for stable. |
| 20:45.14 | error403 | octoberdan, well - I dont run a 64-bit kernel... I am running in 32-bit for now |
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| 20:45.32 | octoberdan | error403: What's the comparison performance wise? |
| 20:45.33 | dondelelcaro | if you want unstable, it's linux-source-2.6.13 or similar. |
| 20:45.53 | infinity1 | dondelelcaro: ? i went to packages.debian.org and did a search. 2.6.8-16 is listed for unstable. |
| 20:46.02 | error403 | octoberdan, between 32-bit and 64-bit? |
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| 20:46.10 | octoberdan | error403: yeah |
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| 20:46.19 | octoberdan | error403: with the kernal in the comparison |
| 20:46.36 | thingfish | unstable is still at 2.6.12-1 |
| 20:46.38 | error403 | octoberdan, from what i have heard, there are some 64-bit driver issues.... so it can sometimes not be worth it |
| 20:46.39 | norskfjord | I wanna upgrade my kernel to 2.6, is it fairly easy? I have never done a kernel compile |
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| 20:46.56 | error403 | norskfjord, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6 |
| 20:47.00 | error403 | choose which one you need |
| 20:47.07 | octoberdan | norskfjord: One of the great things about debian |
| 20:47.07 | infinity1 | dondelelcaro: um. http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/ doesn't have anything listed for anything above 2.6.8 |
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| 20:47.08 | nima | hello |
| 20:47.13 | norskfjord | then what? |
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| 20:47.29 | octoberdan | norskfjord: It'll guide you though it if I remember correctly |
| 20:47.34 | octoberdan | norskfjord: It's quite easy |
| 20:47.37 | error403 | octoberdan, well, my only experience is subjective - how responsive i find my desktop computer |
| 20:47.40 | nima | anybody can help me with Win4lin installation? |
| 20:47.52 | dondelelcaro | linuxfreck: it's linux-source, not kernel-source. |
| 20:48.00 | dondelelcaro | s/linuxfreck/infinity1/ |
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| 20:48.18 | infinity1 | dondelelcaro: ohhhH!!!!! am i crazy or did someone rename it? |
| 20:48.23 | error403 | octoberdan, if you are on about building a computer, or whatever, 64-bit AMD is cheaper than a comparable Intel at the moment.... |
| 20:48.35 | norskfjord | well which one should I do? This is a Pentium 3 733 |
| 20:48.37 | dondelelcaro | infinity1: it was renamed about 3 months ago because we'll have kernels that aren't linux in the archive soon. |
| 20:48.49 | dondelelcaro | (like hurd and bsd) |
| 20:48.53 | nima | anybody can help me with Win4lin installation? |
| 20:48.56 | infinity1 | dondelelcaro: punKs!!! playing with my mind. |
| 20:49.05 | dondelelcaro | infinity1: *shrug* |
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| 20:49.36 | marstewel | no package for perl lib for domain keys ? |
| 20:49.54 | dondelelcaro | marstewel: which perl module are you asking for? |
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| 20:49.56 | octoberdan | nima: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&hs=meX&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=%22win4lin+installation&spell=1 |
| 20:49.56 | infinity1 | dondelelcaro: yea yea. :) ...i don't read. i read by recognition... thus i see what i don't see :) |
| 20:50.01 | marstewel | Mail/DomainKeys/Message.pm |
| 20:50.05 | sylvisj | Anyone mind helping me set up my sound card? |
| 20:50.24 | sylvisj | I'm only getting sound via an OSS driver. The quality sucks, and I want it on ALSA, but can't get it to work. |
| 20:50.26 | streuner | sylvisj: /msg dpkg audio |
| 20:50.29 | norskfjord | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 is that good for a P3 733? or should I just use 2.6 |
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| 20:50.39 | bibe | hi all. Is there a place where I can find an "old" debian package? I am looking for gdesklets-0.32, because 0.32 is the latest available version of gdesklets-data package, and with different versions between those two packages I can't make most of LT desklets work. The upgrade was uploaded to the upstream a couple of weeks before sarge release... |
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| 20:50.48 | dondelelcaro | marstewel: probably not; but you can just apt-get install build-essential dh-make-perl fakeroot; dh-make-perl --build --cpan Mail::DomainKeys::Message |
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| 20:50.57 | thc | :( |
| 20:51.05 | streuner | sylvisj: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i audio' say? |
| 20:51.12 | sylvisj | One sec. |
| 20:51.18 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: I wont install compiler stuff on a production machine for security reasons |
| 20:51.30 | norskfjord | Im getting it anyway |
| 20:51.31 | dondelelcaro | marstewel: so build it on another machine. |
| 20:51.32 | octoberdan | Anyone ever use a pdp11 emulator? Or have suggustions for one I should get? |
| 20:51.36 | octoberdan | I'm learning B |
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| 20:51.53 | sylvisj | 0000:02:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08) |
| 20:51.56 | dondelelcaro | marstewel: it's not like the .deb has to be built on the same machine that you install it on. |
| 20:51.58 | sylvisj | And yes, I'm under the audio group |
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| 20:52.11 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: will it actually build a .deb automatically? |
| 20:52.12 | streuner | sylvisj: cat /proc/version |
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| 20:52.21 | dondelelcaro | marstewel: I wouldn't have told you to do that otherwise. |
| 20:52.26 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: I am familar with that concept (using customized SSH versions etc) |
| 20:52.38 | sylvisj | Linux version 2.6.12-1-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 4.0.2 20050917 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-8)) #1 Tue Sep 27 12:41:08 JST 2005 |
| 20:52.43 | marstewel | I never built a perl lib ;) |
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| 20:52.55 | dondelelcaro | marstewel: uh... then why are you telling me that you can't build it there? just build it somewhere, and scp it over. |
| 20:52.58 | fusspils | when I click on perl scripts they always open in a text editor, what am I missing? |
| 20:53.09 | streuner | sylvisj: apt-get install alsa-utils and run 'alsaconf' |
| 20:53.13 | sylvisj | Thx. |
| 20:53.18 | sylvisj | It was alsaconf I forgot to do. |
| 20:53.25 | dondelelcaro | fusspils: you either 1) don't have a scriptalias, don't have the right handler set up, or don't have +execcgi on. |
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| 20:53.28 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: I have built the packages on another machine also of course (they are placed in a own apt repository) |
| 20:53.35 | dondelelcaro | marstewel: same thing |
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| 20:53.36 | streuner | sylvisj: make sure all OSS modules aren't loaded |
| 20:53.41 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: I know :) |
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| 20:54.01 | sylvisj | It's done setting up. Fast, I know. |
| 20:54.04 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: thnx for the perl lib compile and package short howto :D |
| 20:54.09 | sylvisj | It is using amixer for volume... how would I increase volume? |
| 20:54.11 | fusspils | dondelelcarlo; how do I fix the above problems? |
| 20:54.23 | dondelelcaro | fusspils: you edit the apache configuration |
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| 20:54.45 | poldo | hello |
| 20:54.47 | streuner | sylvisj: well, OSS modules are just fine for emu10k1 |
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| 20:54.59 | sylvisj | .... |
| 20:55.05 | sylvisj | ALSA is working. |
| 20:55.12 | streuner | sylvisj: try 'aumix' too |
| 20:55.16 | sylvisj | Thx. |
| 20:55.23 | sylvisj | Command not found. |
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| 20:55.35 | marstewel | OSS is depcreated |
| 20:55.38 | streuner | apt-get install aumix |
| 20:55.48 | streuner | hm, OSS is ok |
| 20:56.02 | bucky | oss is still in the kernel |
| 20:56.04 | norskfjord | Hey I added gaim-vv to my apt sources and installed it, but it's not gaim-vv, it's just normal gaim ? |
| 20:56.24 | marstewel | bucky: true but still ... |
| 20:56.28 | sybec | if you'd have to order the following: server, workstation, personal desktop, embedded; so that the first is what debian is "best for" and the last is what it's .. no so good for .. how would this order be ? |
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| 20:57.40 | marstewel | sybec: server = perfect ... desktop: you have to get used to it (might involve extensive training) |
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| 20:57.59 | marstewel | sybec: you can read about the city Munich (Germany) as an example |
| 20:58.02 | dondelelcaro | sybec: depends on what you're doing; those are all things that it's good at if the administrators are compitent (with the exception of embedded, which requires slightly different things) |
| 20:58.09 | MrSarge | hi |
| 20:58.35 | bucky | where's MrsSarge? |
| 20:58.46 | norskfjord | Hey I added gaim-vv to my apt sources and installed it, but it's not gaim-vv, it's just normal gaim ? has anyone else had this problem? |
| 20:58.54 | sylvisj | aumix rox my sox |
| 20:58.56 | sylvisj | thx |
| 20:59.01 | marstewel | norskfjord: did you apt-get update ? |
| 20:59.15 | Draal | Hello |
| 20:59.36 | MrSarge | I installed apache and php4-gd , and placed all my php and html files in /var/www , and then I load Firefox and type "localhost" in toolbar! But Firefox outputs a blank page when any PHP files are loaded! Any help available please? |
| 20:59.45 | MrSarge | bucky: sleeping :) |
| 20:59.54 | Draal | I was wondering if there was a driver for the 56k modem that comes bundled with the Centrino chipset? |
| 21:00.06 | sylvisj | haha, winmodem |
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| 21:00.26 | Draal | Sylvisj: Thank you for the support |
| 21:00.32 | norskfjord | yes |
| 21:00.35 | marstewel | Draal: winmodem; it does not have a signal processor; you might want to try your luck at www.linmodems.org |
| 21:00.37 | sylvisj | :D Np. Buy a US robotics one. |
| 21:00.46 | streuner | Draal: /msg dpkg winmodem |
| 21:00.52 | streuner | Draal: laptop? |
| 21:00.58 | sylvisj | Centrino. It has to be. |
| 21:01.00 | Zap-W | anyone heard of softmodem? |
| 21:01.13 | Draal | Streuner: Yes |
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| 21:01.22 | MrSarge | and when I load Firefox and type "localhost" in toolbar! But Firefox now asks me which application I want to open PHP files with! whats wrong please? |
| 21:01.22 | marstewel | softmodem? might be another term for winmodem |
| 21:01.28 | streuner | Draal: what model do you have? |
| 21:01.52 | Draal | Streuner: First generation Centrino |
| 21:02.05 | streuner | MrSarge: read php4 README.debian doc |
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| 21:02.10 | sylvisj | Ok, this is the last thing I need to set up. How do I get windows games to work? I've heard it involves WINE, and apt-get install'd it. |
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| 21:02.33 | MrSarge | I installed apache and php4-gd, but when I type localhost, firefox says: "what should firefox do with this file?" |
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| 21:02.49 | Draal | streuner: Does this mean I won't be able to use the modem? |
| 21:02.50 | Aim_Here | try 'wine setup.exe' or whatever your game's setup utility is called |
| 21:02.58 | sylvisj | Ahh. Thx. |
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| 21:03.01 | Aim_Here | sylvisj, Your mileage may vary though |
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| 21:03.07 | sylvisj | Of course. |
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| 21:03.12 | streuner | Draal: no, find a driver for the modem |
| 21:03.14 | Zap-W | are analog modems supposed to interfere with ADSL? |
| 21:03.17 | MrSarge | has anyone got a server I can upload my php files to test running? |
| 21:03.39 | Draal | streuner: Guess it just isn't straightforward.. |
| 21:03.40 | sylvisj | Zap-W - quite possibly. Depends on the modem type. |
| 21:03.52 | sylvisj | 28.8k I wouldn't worry about if it's filtered. |
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| 21:04.01 | streuner | Draal: what kind of model do you have? HP, Acer, Dell ? |
| 21:04.02 | sylvisj | 33/56k, more than likely. |
| 21:04.09 | bucky | MrSarge, apache 1.3 or apache2 ? |
| 21:04.13 | Zap-W | i tested an old 33.6k modem and a 56k modem |
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| 21:04.15 | Zap-W | both interfere |
| 21:04.16 | Draal | streuner: Asus S5n notebook |
| 21:04.22 | Zap-W | loose sync |
| 21:04.24 | MrSarge | bucky: I typed "apt-get install apache" |
| 21:04.25 | sylvisj | Hmm. Got the phone line filtered? |
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| 21:04.40 | sylvisj | Let me rephrase that. Can you make calls while the ADSL modem is on? |
| 21:04.51 | Draal | streuner: Uses ipw2100 |
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| 21:04.52 | Zap-W | sure |
| 21:04.54 | MrSarge | bucky: I cant seem to get the php files to load from /var/www :( any advice? |
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| 21:05.05 | sylvisj | Then your modems are using too wide of a frequency range. |
| 21:05.12 | MrSarge | bucky: I installed apache and php4-gd, but when I type localhost, firefox says: "what should firefox do with this file?" |
| 21:05.20 | Zap-W | sylvisj: the filter was supposed to limit that no? |
| 21:05.22 | Draal | Not sure about any other specs of the chipset itself.. Other than its the older model that doesn't have 802.11g support |
| 21:05.33 | Draal | Only 802.11b if I remember correctly |
| 21:05.34 | marstewel | MrSarge: extension not registered correctly in apache; module loaded? |
| 21:05.37 | Berserker22 | Hi all ! Is mod_log_forensic (for apache2) available in some debian package ? |
| 21:05.40 | bucky | MrSarge, do you get http://localhost/apache2-default/index.html |
| 21:05.41 | antgel | MrSarge: you need libapache-mod-php4 |
| 21:05.46 | sylvisj | Zap-W: It wasn't intended for modems. Modems use a much more broad frequency for data transmission then phones use for voice. |
| 21:05.58 | MrSarge | marstewel: what module do I need to load? |
| 21:06.01 | sylvisj | Therefore, a frequency overlap may occur between the ADSL and dialup modems. |
| 21:06.04 | antgel | !tell Berserker22 about apt-file |
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| 21:06.24 | MrSarge | bucky: no, it says Not Found |
| 21:06.26 | sylvisj | Berserker22: apt-cache search is your friend. |
| 21:06.36 | bucky | MrSarge, sounds like your .load and .conf links in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled aren't there |
| 21:06.57 | Zap-W | sylvisj: i just need it for fax really..,a 14k modem should be fine no? |
| 21:07.00 | MrSarge | bucky: im not running apache3 |
| 21:07.00 | bucky | MrSarge, dpkg -l apache2-mpm* |
| 21:07.05 | MrSarge | bucky: im not running apache2 |
| 21:07.13 | MrSarge | bucky: i omnly installed apache |
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| 21:07.24 | sylvisj | Zap-W, again, only if the frequencies don't overlap. Give it a try, it might work, it might not. If it doesn't work, turn off your ADSL modem and send the fax. |
| 21:07.33 | streuner | Draal: google for 'slmodem debian' |
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| 21:07.38 | bucky | MrSarge, ok... i asked you that about five questions ago |
| 21:07.46 | MrSarge | bucky: Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
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| 21:07.59 | MrSarge | bucky: and I answered you that about 5 ansswers ago |
| 21:07.59 | Nihilanth | i'm doing a kernel recompile for the first time on debian, would it be reccomended to use the official kernel image config as a base? |
| 21:08.15 | bucky | MrSarge, no you didn't.. do want help? |
| 21:08.31 | bucky | MrSarge bucky: I typed "apt-get install apache" |
| 21:08.40 | bucky | that didn't answer my question |
| 21:08.45 | infinity1 | Nihilanth: if you're using linux-source, i would use a debian kernel config file |
| 21:08.57 | Draal | streuner: Argh.. This task does daunt and frighten me |
| 21:09.19 | bucky | MrSarge, edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf and uncomment php like in any other distribution |
| 21:09.19 | antgel | MrSarge: what i said ^^^ |
| 21:09.22 | Nihilanth | infinity1: alright, I'm not real enthused about using the default config, but I dont want to screw it up either. |
| 21:09.22 | streuner | Draal: so you don't want use your onboard modem? |
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| 21:09.49 | infinity1 | Nihilanth: at least this way you're starting from something that works. if it doesn't work, you know you broke it |
| 21:09.51 | bucky | MrSarge, and restart apache |
| 21:09.54 | Draal | streuner: I have that desire but my knowledge of linux and time available to apply it is lacking |
| 21:10.20 | Nihilanth | infinity1: yeah |
| 21:10.26 | MrSarge | bucky: how do I restare apache? |
| 21:10.41 | streuner | Draal: well, dialup modems sucks these days, if you have any other connection feel free to use this option ;-) |
| 21:10.42 | infinity1 | Nihilanth: if it was linux 2.0, i might say start from vanilla, but there are 1000's more options than there use to be |
| 21:10.53 | bucky | MrSarge, /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 21:11.27 | MrSarge | bucky: ok ill try all that, brb |
| 21:11.28 | rafx | five vulernabilities fixed in Apache 2.0.55 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.0.html - lets see how fast Debian gets them fixed in Sarge compared to other distros :) |
| 21:11.39 | Draal | streuner: Works under XP with little prodding... I know the antiquity of this process while this is at times the only option available |
| 21:12.04 | streuner | Draal: shouldn't be hard in debian as well |
| 21:12.11 | bucky | rafx, and then lets see how long it takes ubuntu to copy our work |
| 21:12.32 | Draal | streuner: I will give it a try... Worst case wins over, would you have any knowledge of suitable PCMCIA modem cards? |
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| 21:13.11 | the-dude | When doing ftp-upload to my sarge vsftpd, after a few seconds ksoftirqd starts eating 100% CPU, network connection goes down, the system becomes slow but doesn't freeze. |
| 21:13.19 | sengir37 | Draal: I've had good experiences with 3com cards with xjacks |
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| 21:13.46 | aeronadix | hey I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, and now when I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, it doesn't overwrite the file it seems |
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| 21:13.59 | Draal | sengir37: Excuse my ignorance, but xjacks is a program? |
| 21:14.09 | the-dude | My first guess was the vmware kernel modules. I started without them -> same problem. Downloading works fine though. |
| 21:14.12 | the-dude | Any hints? |
| 21:14.13 | sengir37 | Draal: No, it's a pop-out rj11 jack |
| 21:14.36 | Draal | sengir37: Must dumb it down for me.. rj11 is a modem/phone jack? |
| 21:14.53 | sengir37 | Draal: It's just a clever bit of engineering so you don't need a dongle, and I like them. Also, the cards I have seen that have them are supported in linux. 574 or 575 or something was in the model number. |
| 21:14.54 | leudel | can anyone help me with # tar? i want to extract an archive (which has a folder in it) but rename the folder name |
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| 21:15.06 | sengir37 | Draal: Yes, rj11 is the phone plug |
| 21:15.13 | bucky | aeronadix, you have to fix the md5sum now that you edited it with an editor |
| 21:15.14 | MrSarge | bucky: I did everything you said, but when I type locahost, firefox still says: "what should firefox do with this file?" |
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| 21:15.28 | Draal | sengir37: 3com 574/575? Thank you.. I will make a note of it |
| 21:15.34 | bucky | MrSarge, try clearing you cache |
| 21:15.50 | MrSarge | bucky: what exactly do I need to edit in /etc/apache/httpd.conf for it to read and open my PHP files? |
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| 21:16.00 | MrSarge | bucky: ok ill try |
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| 21:16.03 | sengir37 | Draal: It's by no means the only modem that will work. I just find the convenience of not having a dongle to lose to be a big plus. |
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| 21:16.34 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: now I am in the dependency hell... |
| 21:16.46 | Draal | sengir37: I'm sure but I'd feel better having something proven and knowing someone who has proven it |
| 21:17.08 | marstewel | dondelelcaro: RSA.pm not available, etc |
| 21:17.13 | aeronadix | bucky, can you tell me how to do it? |
| 21:17.15 | sengir37 | Draal: Well good luck. Hopefully you can get the onboard modem working and wont even need to mess with a PCMCIA one. |
| 21:17.17 | bucky | MrSarge, there should be something like this already for you to uncomment |
| 21:17.19 | bucky | http://www.linuxguruz.com/z.php?id=31 |
| 21:17.20 | MrSarge | bucky: I cleared cache, and now all I get is a blank output! |
| 21:17.43 | Draal | sengir37: Your luck is taken and appreciated. One may hope for that, we shall se. |
| 21:17.50 | MrSarge | bucky: nothing appears on screen, totally blank |
| 21:17.57 | bucky | MrSarge, check /usr/share/doc/apache for some docs |
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| 21:18.20 | MrSarge | has anyone got a server I can upload my php files to test running? |
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| 21:18.56 | meff | no and thats an idiotic thing to ask MrSarge |
| 21:19.31 | findme | MrSarge, http://www.0php.com/free_PHP_webhosting.php |
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| 21:19.50 | aeronadix | !md5sum |
| 21:19.52 | dpkg | d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e |
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| 21:19.56 | MrSarge | meff: not as idiotic as what you asked |
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| 21:20.00 | MrSarge | findme: thanks :) |
| 21:20.42 | bucky | MrSarge, you didn't install libapache-mod-php4 |
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| 21:21.19 | Nihilanth | i'm diong a kernel recompile, and it seems make-kpkg isnt a command |
| 21:21.21 | Nihilanth | what should i do? |
| 21:21.37 | servus | Can you `make deb-pkg` ? |
| 21:21.38 | MrSarge | bucky: yes i installed libapache-mod-php4 also, but same thing! blank output |
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| 21:22.01 | thingfish | Nihilanth: you might need kernel-package and build-essential. |
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| 21:22.24 | Nihilanth | thingfish: i'll try that, thanks |
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| 21:22.45 | thingfish | sure |
| 21:22.58 | MrSarge | I installed apache and php4-gd, and libapache-mod-php4! But when I type localhost, firefox displays a blank page! |
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| 21:23.24 | Nihilanth | thingfish: seems to be working, thanks man |
| 21:23.38 | thingfish | Nihilanth: you're welcome. |
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| 21:24.07 | john | What's a good program to play .ASF video files (With Sound) so exclude Xine :) |
| 21:24.40 | streuner | john: if you have the codec installed |
| 21:24.48 | meff | !tell john about marillat |
| 21:24.52 | meff | john: mplayer.. |
| 21:24.58 | streuner | john: just install the codec |
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| 21:25.30 | servus | Blah. Am I the only one that does a make deb-pkg to make a kernel? It's easier and only the cool kids do i t... |
| 21:25.36 | john | yeah mplayer.. i'd rather use xine.. but where can i get said codec.. i looked, but guess i didn't look hard enough |
| 21:25.52 | bucky | MrSarge, create a phpinfo.php file with this in it <?php phpinfo() ?> put it in /var/www and see if you can see that |
| 21:25.57 | meff | john: install w32codecs off marillat |
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| 21:26.15 | Nick_Hill | john, ASF files can use different versions or totally different codecs separately for sound and videp |
| 21:26.48 | MrSarge | bucky: ok ill try, brb |
| 21:27.01 | Nick_Hill | ASF are proprietary windows media files, the format of which is regularly changed, IMO to stop competing products |
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| 21:27.14 | bucky | MrSarge, make that <? php phpinfo() ?> |
| 21:27.35 | sylvisj | Can anyone help me set up WINE? |
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| 21:27.46 | bucky | maybe no space |
| 21:27.46 | meff | sylvisj: google for winetools |
| 21:28.14 | MrSarge | bucky: I see a whole page filled with text |
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| 21:29.36 | MrSarge | bucky: when I typed it as the latest version you gave, it says Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/www/phpinfo.php on line 1 |
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| 21:29.59 | Nick_Hill | sylvisj, I have tried wine and have only had sucess with quicken 2002. In any case, running windows proprietary programs defeats my rationale for using GNU/Linux. |
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| 21:30.00 | bucky | MrSarge, <?php phpinfo() ?> |
| 21:30.00 | MrSarge | bucky: when the file says: <?php phpinfo() ?>, it gives me all this php type text |
| 21:30.03 | kds | sylvisj: Read docs in /usr/share/doc/wine/ |
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| 21:30.13 | MrSarge | bucky: which one should I use? <?php phpinfo() ?> ? |
| 21:30.16 | bucky | MrSarge, that means your apache is working |
| 21:30.23 | bucky | yes |
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| 21:30.35 | MrSarge | bucky: let me try that one, brb |
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| 21:30.37 | bucky | your problem is with your code |
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| 21:30.54 | kds | sylvisj: I got it working a few months ago by just reading the docs. Its easy. |
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| 21:31.39 | MrSarge | bucky: that shows me a full page! at top it says PHP Version 4.3.10-16 etc etc |
| 21:31.53 | bucky | MrSarge, that means it's working |
| 21:32.12 | MrSarge | bucky: so how come my own PHP files dont show anything? Could my old php files be using old php code that apache doesnt understand? |
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| 21:33.30 | servus | MrSarge: Edit your php.ini to error_reporting = E_ALL |
| 21:33.37 | MickMcPap | Is there a way to display a different console on different monitors? |
| 21:33.38 | servus | Or E_ALL ^ E_NOTICES |
| 21:33.42 | gudi | hi |
| 21:34.05 | MrSarge | servus: ok |
| 21:34.16 | MrSarge | servus: which one? last one? |
| 21:34.22 | octoberdan | Is there a linux version of window's Task Manager? |
| 21:34.31 | octoberdan | like with pids and such... |
| 21:34.40 | Nick_Hill | octoberdan, top or ktop |
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| 21:34.44 | gudi | is it possible to start sshd daemon with uder nobody to gain access to the server ? |
| 21:34.45 | octoberdan | Thanks |
| 21:34.59 | Nick_Hill | octoberdan, in KDE, try ctrl+esc |
| 21:35.16 | octoberdan | Nick_Hill: I use enlightenment |
| 21:35.20 | jorfro2005 | hey all, I'm trying to upgrade from Sarge to Etch, I have an ATI Mobility Radeon x700 on my Acer Ferrari and I've tried and tried to get the Xserver running and i can't |
| 21:35.21 | octoberdan | Nick_Hill: Good to know though |
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| 21:35.28 | jorfro2005 | i'm just wondering how exactly i upgrade to etch |
| 21:35.28 | servus | Last one |
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| 21:35.38 | Jemt | f |
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| 21:35.38 | jorfro2005 | i know i'm supposed to edit the sources.list (not sure what to put in it) |
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| 21:35.41 | servus | octoberdan: Umm, ctrl-alt-del in KDE :) |
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| 21:35.47 | jorfro2005 | and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:36.07 | jorfro2005 | anyone help me out? |
| 21:36.10 | Nick_Hill | servus, Trying to be evil? |
| 21:36.11 | administrador | hello i am in venezuela |
| 21:36.21 | norskfjord | ph Top RX Speed: 7.32 KB/s |
| 21:36.23 | octoberdan | you can't apt-get install top? |
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| 21:36.40 | MrSarge | servus: where is php.ini stored? |
| 21:36.45 | servus | What? No. Ctrl-alt-del in KDE really does pop up a process manager that looks suspiciously like Windows Task Manager. |
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| 21:36.48 | Nick_Hill | octoberdan, as a guess, may be in bsdutils |
| 21:36.50 | norskfjord | top should come with it |
| 21:36.53 | clojster | please, what package except from ogle can play DVD's and can handle MENUs? |
| 21:36.53 | servus | MrSarge: Maybe /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini ? |
| 21:37.04 | stew | clojster: vlc |
| 21:37.12 | jorfro2005 | anyone know how to upgrade from Sarge to Etch in a quick few step process?? can't get ati card to work in sarge |
| 21:37.25 | stew | jorfro2005: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 21:37.32 | stew | jorfro2005: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
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| 21:37.56 | stew | jorfro2005: but the ati drivers that come with the xserver should work fine as long as you don't need 3d |
| 21:37.56 | octoberdan | Oh, thanks again |
| 21:38.00 | Marc__ | hola |
| 21:38.03 | clojster | stew: thanx |
| 21:38.06 | Marc__ | no se mucho de linux |
| 21:38.10 | MrSarge | servus: atm, it has "error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE" |
| 21:38.16 | Marc__ | quien me puede ayudar |
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| 21:38.34 | MrSarge | servus: it seems its already set for that |
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| 21:38.45 | octoberdan | post install, what's the difference between woody and sarge? |
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| 21:38.57 | servus | MrSarge: Is Display_Errors = On ? |
| 21:39.13 | administrador | woody is the version before sarge of debian |
| 21:39.21 | MrSarge | servus: yes, display_errors = On |
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| 21:39.37 | Marc__ | hola como bajo msn |
| 21:39.42 | Marc__ | para mi linux |
| 21:39.53 | administrador | no hay msn para linux |
| 21:39.53 | norskfjord | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.57 | administrador | baja gaim |
| 21:39.59 | stew | octoberdan: packages in sarge will be 3 years newer |
| 21:40.00 | Marc__ | si |
| 21:40.04 | Marc__ | pero aparte de eso |
| 21:40.07 | Marc__ | del gaom |
| 21:40.07 | stew | !es |
| 21:40.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:40.09 | Marc__ | gain |
| 21:40.15 | administrador | con gaim te conectas a msn |
| 21:40.18 | Marc__ | si |
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| 21:40.22 | octoberdan | Then is woody dead? |
| 21:40.27 | Marc__ | pero no puedop usar otro msn |
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| 21:40.42 | MickMcPap | Bah. |
| 21:40.42 | stew | octoberdan: it will get support for another 6 months or so, but consider it deprecated |
| 21:40.44 | administrador | no is functional for old computer |
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| 21:40.46 | nemo | I was wondering if anyone can help me with a dual boot problem? |
| 21:40.49 | aeronadix | how do you add users, when I do base-config, and I select Set up users and passwords, it just runs for 30s and then nothing happens. I have root access, but I can't remember my user login and pass. How can I find this out? |
| 21:41.03 | administrador | es tu mismi msn |
| 21:41.08 | administrador | mismo |
| 21:41.23 | Marc__ | me dijeron que se puede descargar |
| 21:41.26 | Marc__ | por consola |
| 21:41.32 | Marc__ | otro msn |
| 21:41.33 | MrSarge | servus: its so weird, my apache php etc works! Yet my php files wont display anything! just shows a blank page :( |
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| 21:41.38 | stew | administrador: Marc__: /join #debian-es |
| 21:41.47 | norskfjord | !tell Marc__ es |
| 21:41.51 | tremor | aeronadix: find login name; ls /home/ |
| 21:41.52 | administrador | solo que no te vas a conectar con el messenger, pero igual te conectas con tu correo y hablas con tus mismos contactos |
| 21:42.14 | nemo | I can boot linux, but not XP. I get the following error after I try.........Root (HD1,0) Filesystem type Unknown, Partition type 0x7 Savedefault Makeactive Chainloader +1 |
| 21:42.17 | norskfjord | !tell Marc__ about es |
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| 21:42.53 | servus | MrSarge: Maybe your PHP files are manually calling the error_reporting() function to reset what errors are being shown |
| 21:42.54 | aeronadix | I can't remember my password |
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| 21:43.04 | tremor | aeronadix: add a user: adduser <enter> |
| 21:43.15 | servus | Also, certain types of syntax errors will just cause a white-out. Check your Apache error logs |
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| 21:43.33 | Marc__ | nada |
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| 21:43.39 | OnePatch | aeronadix: I'd not admit that if I were you |
| 21:43.43 | nemo | CAn anyone help?, this is linux is pretty new to me |
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| 21:44.25 | OnePatch | nemo: I don't know if I can help, I know that time will help that, did you have a specific question in mind? or shall I just start spouting? |
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| 21:44.36 | administrador | what is the diference which do and execute in the perl language |
| 21:44.38 | administrador | ???? |
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| 21:44.50 | MrSarge | anyone know a free webhosting service that supports PHP? |
| 21:44.51 | administrador | for the sql |
| 21:45.05 | administrador | ??? |
| 21:45.07 | nemo | about dual booting I get errors when trying to boot into XP |
| 21:45.10 | OnePatch | administrador : um... execellent question |
| 21:45.15 | OnePatch | administrador : did you check in #perl? |
| 21:45.27 | tosh| | #perl are a bunch of arrogant c!nts, try #perlhelp |
| 21:45.40 | OnePatch | nemo: what kind of errors? |
| 21:45.52 | administrador | i have a problem which a query |
| 21:45.52 | Drakh_ | yes you must watch out for dreadful fat perl programmers |
| 21:45.59 | OnePatch | tosh| : good call, first time back on the scene in awhile... |
| 21:46.02 | nemo | Root (HD1,0) Filesystem type Unknown, Partition type 0x7 Savedefault Makeactive Chainloader +1 |
| 21:46.03 | l3m | can anyone recommend a good free email provider? preferably with pop or imap access? |
| 21:46.14 | Drakh_ | gmail |
| 21:46.15 | MrSarge | servus: I think i located problem, its when it tries to access mysql, the output is blank |
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| 21:46.33 | aeronadix | How do I fix the md5sum for XF86Config-4? |
| 21:46.42 | administrador | i don`t know the diference which a two intruction |
| 21:46.44 | stew | aeronadix: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 21:46.47 | OnePatch | nemo: so your having a problem with dual booting using... *tinks* um... not lilo, but the other one... grub... yes thats it |
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| 21:46.53 | OnePatch | nemo: *hrms* |
| 21:47.20 | nemo | Yes grub... and whats hrms? |
| 21:47.47 | norskfjord | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Retro-ADM-5-Dumb-Terminal-Video-Display-Unit_W0QQitemZ8704204287QQcategoryZ1247QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 21:47.51 | norskfjord | haha |
| 21:47.55 | MrSarge | servus: the problem is found in my database.php! and that files says: <? @mysql_pconnect($dbserver, $dbuser, $dbpassword) or die (mysql_error()); @mysql_select_db($database) or die(mysql_error());?> |
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| 21:48.15 | norskfjord | I might buy it |
| 21:48.18 | omry | nemo, winddows on the primary master? |
| 21:48.18 | MrSarge | servus: any ideas? |
| 21:48.25 | OnePatch | nemo: *hrms* is a sound... it's like saying... let me think a moment or somesuch like that... just a personal idiosynchacy... |
| 21:48.52 | MrSarge | how can I install the mysql database locally? |
| 21:48.53 | Marc__ | quiero aprender a descargar por konsole |
| 21:48.55 | nemo | The hard drive for linux is on "Master Jumper. the XP HD is an Cable select |
| 21:49.01 | stew | MrSarge: turn on logging in mysql and look to see what happens in the mysql logfile, you'll probably see that its an incorrect mysql password or something |
| 21:49.27 | stew | Marc__: enlish only in here, /join #debian-es |
| 21:49.29 | OnePatch | nemo: are they both detected by the bios? |
| 21:49.35 | nemo | yes |
| 21:49.38 | MrSarge | stew: when I load my php files, it says; Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_query() i |
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| 21:49.47 | stew | MrSarge: apt-get install php4-mysql |
| 21:50.07 | administrador | $row=$sql->do('insert into Person values ('101','Jhon','0273-5463123')); |
| 21:50.10 | servus | MrSarge: Did you install php4-mysql then enable it? |
| 21:50.12 | omry | nemo, try this sequence in /boot/grub/menu.lst map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot |
| 21:50.25 | initiate | how can i copy/paste a directory through the console ? |
| 21:50.40 | OnePatch | omry: yeah the 'rootnoverify' line may helpout a bit... |
| 21:50.47 | norskfjord | ps auxww | grep process | grep -v grep |
| 21:50.48 | nemo | k BRB.....see if I can find it.....lol |
| 21:50.57 | stew | initiate: what do you mean by copy/paste a directory? |
| 21:51.13 | administrador | what is a difference if i do this $row=$sql->prepare('insert into....') the same |
| 21:51.17 | omry | OnePatch, yes. its required for windows. my guess is that he also need to use map. |
| 21:51.26 | administrador | and $row->execute |
| 21:51.32 | MrSarge | servus: how do I enable php4-mysql? amd yes its installed now |
| 21:51.35 | initiate | stew, like cp /dir path/ /save path/ |
| 21:51.41 | administrador | ???? |
| 21:51.47 | initiate | but i think that's for files only,not for directories |
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| 21:51.50 | OnePatch | administrador : to my understanding, do is used when you aren't selecting... as execute will load it back to where you can do something else... it's all vague in my head, but that's the basics, I think |
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| 21:52.12 | OnePatch | omry: I've never used map before, but you seem to know more than me on the subject, so... kewl |
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| 21:52.24 | stew | initiate: cp -r sourcedir targetdir |
| 21:52.30 | norskfjord | staniel, cp 'folder name' 'folder name' |
| 21:52.32 | initiate | thanks stew |
| 21:52.34 | OnePatch | 1.215.234.108? who might that be I wonder, all spoofifying and shyte |
| 21:52.50 | servus | MrSarge: Restart apache |
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| 21:53.16 | norskfjord | Linux guardian.homelinux.net 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:53.22 | administrador | but for the use of parameter in the sql i do which 'do' too? |
| 21:53.24 | administrador | ???? |
| 21:53.32 | administrador | parameters? |
| 21:53.47 | Marc__ | quien me ayuda a usar konsole |
| 21:54.02 | OnePatch | administrador : dude... your english is broken |
| 21:54.07 | MrSarge | servus: how do I enable php4-mysql? |
| 21:54.08 | OnePatch | like... worse than mine and shyte |
| 21:54.13 | servus | I told you |
| 21:54.16 | MrSarge | servus: i restarted apache, |
| 21:54.24 | administrador | is very bad, i am from venezuela |
| 21:54.25 | MrSarge | servus: now it says: Warning: main(database.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/getlinks.php on line 2. |
| 21:54.27 | servus | Check your phpinfo() output for mysql support. |
| 21:54.28 | nemo | omry: I am in that file but am completly lost as to what to do in it |
| 21:54.28 | OnePatch | MrSarge : did you make sure the extension was loaded in you php.ini file? |
| 21:54.29 | administrador | jajaj |
| 21:54.29 | norskfjord | Marc__, chupa la verga! |
| 21:54.32 | administrador | jajaja |
| 21:54.43 | omry | nemo, search for windows there. |
| 21:54.47 | norskfjord | Marc__, si coolo! |
| 21:54.53 | tosh| | MrSarge #php |
| 21:54.55 | administrador | i don`t speak english usually |
| 21:55.11 | MrSarge | OnePatch: what exentisons? |
| 21:55.19 | omry | OnePatch, windwows like to be on the harddisk that is set to boot in the bios. map make windows think its drive is the one set to boot in the bios. |
| 21:55.29 | OnePatch | idly wonders why it might be that we never support just linux... but only applications that go along with it... x... apache... mysql... php (programming language)... gah... if only someone were recompiling their kernel... now that's linux... or better yet, seeing as this is #debian, whatabout some apt-get action... *grins* |
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| 21:55.37 | nemo | omry: I see where it says title Windows xp |
| 21:55.40 | MegaManX | Hi! I've just bought a new HD, 200GB and I am going to use it as a secondary HD, just to have TV-series and other stuff I download or rip :). Since I have already a primary HD with the OS (Debian), would it be too stupid to use one single partition (thus 200GB) in that HD? I mean, I don't see any good reason to have several partitions in this case, since it will be only used for media stuff. No applications or anything will be installed |
| 21:55.40 | MegaManX | tips? |
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| 21:55.51 | norskfjord | windows sucks, why use it? |
| 21:55.58 | OnePatch | MrSarge: hang on a moment, let me go check out what I did... and I'll point you to the website |
| 21:56.03 | stew | MrSarge: you need an extension=mysql.so in /etc/php/apache/php.ini but dpkg might have done that for you |
| 21:56.05 | omry | nemo, thats it. below that you see a sequence of commands for grub? |
| 21:56.12 | norskfjord | you can do everything with linux |
| 21:56.16 | tosh| | MegaManX if you're going to use it as a file depot and if you're the only user I would just mount it as being one big disk |
| 21:56.17 | servus | No you can't. |
| 21:56.18 | stew | MrSarge: (or apache2 if you are using apache2) |
| 21:56.20 | MrSarge | OnePatch: thank you |
| 21:56.23 | OnePatch | MrSarge : what stew said |
| 21:56.32 | nemo | omry: yes I see them |
| 21:56.46 | omry | nemo, put this there, one command at a line : map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot |
| 21:56.46 | nemo | omry: do I switch something around? |
| 21:56.50 | servus | "Windows sucks" is just another form of bigotry. Might as well see "BSD sucks" or "embedded operating systems suck" |
| 21:56.52 | nemo | ok |
| 21:57.21 | norskfjord | servus, you suck! ;D |
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| 21:57.31 | norskfjord | X86 is a toy |
| 21:57.35 | MegaManX | tosh|: thanks mate. That's what I thought to do. Just needed somebody fo confirm it, so thanks mate ;) |
| 21:57.35 | norskfjord | get a Alpha! |
| 21:57.38 | NyteRukh | hi |
| 21:57.47 | MrSarge | stew: it seems I already have this; extension=mysql.so |
| 21:57.55 | tosh| | MegaManX no probs :) make sure you make it ext3 minimum |
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| 21:57.59 | administrador | for use cgi in apache with perl i will the apache-mod-perl installed and only this???, pardon for my bad english |
| 21:58.00 | MrSarge | stew: any other advice? |
| 21:58.03 | ben_der | finally... i got debian debian installed and i can boot both windows and debian, but there i still managed to fuck it up slightly during the last bit... how can you get back to the package selestion ? |
| 21:58.06 | ben_der | selection |
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| 21:58.19 | norskfjord | I got 2 VAXs |
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| 21:58.32 | stew | MrSarge: that should be all you need. did you check phpinfo? |
| 21:58.39 | stew | MrSarge: and restart apache |
| 21:58.40 | MegaManX | tosh|: cool ;). I already did a mkefs -j for ext3 and I am already transfering my movies from my Windows machine ;) |
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| 21:58.46 | norskfjord | an a Alpa and UltraSpac |
| 21:58.55 | MrSarge | stew: phpinfo seems to indicate everything works fine |
| 21:59.05 | OnePatch | package selection... package selection... I used to know this... |
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| 21:59.20 | norskfjord | anyway, time to sleep |
| 21:59.22 | tosh| | MegaManX I suggest you get beagle on there or some other form of search tool to easily make you find stuff when you need it |
| 21:59.25 | nemo | omry: Ok, it don't say map nowhere so do I put it where it says..... root (HD1.0)? |
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| 21:59.33 | ben_der | i chose the desktop installation package but it started downloading them from the net and i have a cd and i couldnt figure out how to stop it and change tot the cd |
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| 22:00.10 | omry | nemo, before you play with the file back it up. |
| 22:00.12 | MegaManX | tosh|: oh my, good idea. A find on it would take a huge amount of time :\ I did not think about that :) |
| 22:00.30 | administrador | para usar cgi en perl necesito solamente tener el modulo de apache-perl instalado? |
| 22:00.32 | tosh| | MegaManX http://nat.org/demos/beagle-1.html |
| 22:00.35 | omry | nemo, than, delete all the grub commands for windows xp and put what I told you there. |
| 22:00.36 | OnePatch | ben_der : ok, that's a bit easier... do you know vi? |
| 22:00.44 | administrador | o tengo que hacer alguna otra configuración? |
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| 22:00.57 | stew | MrSarge: and you still get the function not defined error? |
| 22:00.58 | nemo | omry: ok I can do that |
| 22:01.00 | omry | nemo, careful not to mess up other operating systems in the file. |
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| 22:01.15 | stew | !tell administrador about es |
| 22:01.31 | MegaManX | tosh|: now that is a neat thingy :). Thanks for the link ;) |
| 22:01.33 | OnePatch | !tell onepatch about es |
| 22:01.52 | MrSarge | stew: what? |
| 22:01.53 | OnePatch | stew: good call |
| 22:01.55 | OnePatch | lol |
| 22:01.55 | administrador | ok excuse me |
| 22:02.00 | tosh| | MegaManX and make regular backups to dvd of stuff thats important to you. having all your eggs in one basket means you lose everything at once if your computer decides to make an omelet out of it |
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| 22:02.16 | MrSarge | stew: phpinfo shows everything is fine it seems |
| 22:02.34 | stew | MrSarge: ok so what is the problem? |
| 22:02.46 | MrSarge | stew: but how can I install my mysql info into the mysql database? |
| 22:02.47 | nemo | omry: how do I open it to where I can edit? |
| 22:02.51 | Drakh_ | whats the maximum number of nodes supported for linux clusters |
| 22:02.58 | omry | nemo, use nano. |
| 22:02.59 | OnePatch | MegaManX : better yet, buy 4 more and make a raid 5 out of it... that way you improve read/write access and you don't need to back it up... the odds against loosing 2 hard drives at once are like... nil |
| 22:03.04 | nemo | K |
| 22:03.10 | MegaManX | tosh|: ghehe. Now, if I would be going to add a little ftp, like just to share things with friends, then maybe making a separated partition would be a good idea I guess :). Well, I got that hd because I have been wasting good money with DVD's :) |
| 22:03.14 | stew | MrSarge: what do you mean by mysql info? |
| 22:03.16 | MrSarge | stew: the problem is, I get this error when I load my index.php ... Warning: main(database.php): failed to open stream |
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| 22:03.25 | NyteRukh | k...got somethin ya geeks will like |
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| 22:03.36 | servus | I don't like it already. |
| 22:03.39 | Drakh_ | important data should always be backed up and kept offsite |
| 22:03.45 | Drakh_ | don't forget about disasters |
| 22:03.54 | MrSarge | and the dadabase.php contains.. <? @mysql_pconnect($dbserver, $dbuser, $dbpassword) or die (mysql_error()); @mysql_select_db($database) or die(mysql_error());?> |
| 22:04.00 | MegaManX | OnePatch: good idea. I just wished I had that amount of cash :). But my dream is to have two mirrored HD's :) |
| 22:04.03 | NyteRukh | i got a new mobo/cpu for my windows box...amd64 2800 |
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| 22:04.21 | OnePatch | ok |
| 22:04.21 | omry | Drakh_, any other words of wisdom? like.. don't do to your friends what you woudn't like done to you? |
| 22:04.25 | stew | MrSarge: that soudns like a filenotfound. try #php |
| 22:04.25 | omry | :) |
| 22:04.26 | NyteRukh | lol |
| 22:04.32 | OnePatch | somehow... that's not as exciting as I thought it would be |
| 22:04.41 | stew | MrSarge: it sounds like its not finding database.php at all |
| 22:04.49 | MrSarge | stew: im in #php, and nobody theres has a clue about whats wrong :P |
| 22:04.50 | NyteRukh | got to wait till monday or tues to put a gig of ddr memory in it tho |
| 22:04.55 | Drakh_ | •omry• yea just telling someone not to back up there stuff is a bit unerving |
| 22:05.11 | tosh| | anyone got any good user experiences with hula? |
| 22:05.15 | OnePatch | NyteRukh : new computers are fun, dah... why are you telling us about your windows boxen though? |
| 22:05.28 | octoberdan | Why is scsi_eh1 and scsi_eh0 running if I don't have any scsi devices? |
| 22:05.29 | MrSarge | stew: I have information file that mysql accesses, but it needs to be installed so mysql can see it and read it |
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| 22:05.35 | MegaManX | Is it possible to resize a Linux native partition with fdisk and then create another partition, just in case I need that?. Maybe fdisk won't do it, but I can use a liveCD or something. There's no way to use graphical applications since I don't have X installed :) |
| 22:05.39 | stew | MrSarge: try changing where you include database.php to include its full path |
| 22:05.41 | NyteRukh | lol just had to tell someone...still new to debian...plus i'll use it to play me online games like cod |
| 22:05.42 | OnePatch | Drakh_ : too true... I did it for fun... I shouldn't have... I'm sorry |
| 22:06.03 | OnePatch | MegaManX : um... parted doesn't have to graphical... |
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| 22:06.12 | stew | MrSarge: huh? mysql accesses? is it a file full of mysql statements? |
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| 22:06.34 | MegaManX | OnePatch: cool, thanks I will apt for it ;) |
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| 22:07.04 | MrSarge | stew: when I try to load admin for mysql, it says..cannot connect to database |
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| 22:07.11 | OnePatch | MegaManX : it should already be installed if you have a recent version... it came with the installation and was how it was partitioned in the first place... |
| 22:07.24 | OnePatch | if memory serves |
| 22:07.28 | OnePatch | which is always a question |
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| 22:07.44 | stew | MrSarge: is it started? is it failing to start? try running mysqld by hand and see if you get an error message |
| 22:07.51 | stew | MrSarge: what version of mysql? |
| 22:07.51 | OnePatch | MrSarge : what admin? mysql-administrator? |
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| 22:08.01 | MrSarge | stew: how I run mysqld by hand ? |
| 22:08.07 | stew | MrSarge: "mysqld" |
| 22:08.12 | MegaManX | OnePatch: I don't think it was in my system. Using sarge here, but I did apt for it. It was about 500k ;) |
| 22:08.14 | servus | mysqld-safe |
| 22:08.19 | OnePatch | stew: mysqld_safe? |
| 22:08.19 | MegaManX | Now I need to learn how to use it :D |
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| 22:08.34 | stew | OnePatch: /usr/sbin/mysqld |
| 22:08.34 | OnePatch | MegaManX : kewl :) |
| 22:08.41 | MrSarge | stew: it said, 051016 8:12:09 Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Address already in use |
| 22:08.53 | OnePatch | stew: that's not recommended, but I cannot contend that it will not work... it will... |
| 22:08.59 | r3gii | HI |
| 22:09.03 | MrSarge | stew: Do you already have another mysqld server running ... |
| 22:09.15 | stew | MrSarge: ok what exact eror do you get when you run mysqladmin |
| 22:09.16 | stew | OnePatch: why? |
| 22:09.18 | OnePatch | MrSarge: ps -ef|grep -i mysql|awk '{print $2}'|xargs kill |
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| 22:09.31 | stew | OnePatch: why do you want him to kill it? |
| 22:09.32 | OnePatch | MrSarge : && /usr/sbin/mysqld |
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| 22:09.42 | OnePatch | stew: he's trying to start it manually, yes? |
| 22:09.45 | stew | no |
| 22:09.51 | OnePatch | stew: he's failing because it's already running |
| 22:09.58 | stew | yes |
| 22:10.01 | malev | sshd said: Go away! You aren't exist! What i can do now? :) |
| 22:10.03 | nemo | omry: I dont have or know nano, I cant find a way to edit it. I am in root right nowunder the grub directory. Is there A way for me to open it from the root terminal? |
| 22:10.15 | mikap_ | q |
| 22:10.19 | OnePatch | stew: ok... so... why do we not want to kill it, now I'm confuzzled |
| 22:10.33 | omry | nemo, apt-get install nemo |
| 22:10.38 | nemo | k |
| 22:10.39 | omry | nemo, apt-get install nano |
| 22:10.40 | omry | :) |
| 22:10.45 | OnePatch | lol |
| 22:10.48 | OnePatch | that's was class |
| 22:10.49 | omry | good one :) |
| 22:10.50 | OnePatch | I liked that |
| 22:11.18 | Drakh_ | nano? use VI :p |
| 22:11.24 | omry | Drakh_, you want to kill the kid? |
| 22:11.28 | stew | OnePatch: it was sounding like mysqladmin couldn't connect, which is a common problem these days from people upgrading to 4.1 since some my.cnf options went away, running mysqld by hand would tell you what the errors are (often old_passwords not supported). but his problem is clearly not that mysql isn't starting |
| 22:11.28 | OnePatch | malev: um... you cannot ssh into your box... I'm assuming that the terminal is dead or inaccessible and that telnet is turned off? |
| 22:11.29 | omry | :) |
| 22:11.32 | malev | how to make one virtual partition by loop method |
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| 22:11.40 | nemo | omry: ok it says I have it already, but I dont know how to access it |
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| 22:11.48 | kanzur1 | is 'adm' an account that is installed by defualt? |
| 22:11.50 | omry | type nano |
| 22:11.52 | Drakh_ | what happens when you type nano |
| 22:11.54 | Drakh_ | lol |
| 22:11.55 | OnePatch | malev: um... what does that have to do with sshd? |
| 22:12.07 | OnePatch | kanzurl: I think so |
| 22:12.13 | malev | telnet is turned off, but the problem may that ssh user not exist |
| 22:12.17 | OnePatch | man nano |
| 22:12.42 | OnePatch | nan =-> pico enhanced |
| 22:12.47 | OnePatch | er... nano even |
| 22:12.48 | OnePatch | lol |
| 22:12.49 | malev | or privilege separation user sshd don't exist |
| 22:12.53 | OnePatch | I guess it's easier to use vi |
| 22:12.54 | Drakh_ | VI > nano |
| 22:12.54 | malev | or sm like so |
| 22:13.18 | OnePatch | malev: what the heck... are you trying to do a loopback os or are you trying to start sshd? |
| 22:13.21 | omry | Drakh_, learning_curve(nano) > learning_curve(vi) |
| 22:13.38 | OnePatch | omry : don't you mean the reverse of that? |
| 22:13.43 | OnePatch | nano < vi? |
| 22:13.44 | Drakh_ | yea |
| 22:13.46 | Drakh_ | no |
| 22:13.53 | Drakh_ | learning curve of nano < vi |
| 22:13.58 | OnePatch | well, right |
| 22:14.04 | OnePatch | but I was trying to save words |
| 22:14.08 | Drakh_ | although the former is true |
| 22:14.11 | Caelum | nano is for noobs :) |
| 22:14.12 | Caelum | malev: that's a common error, search for it on google |
| 22:14.13 | OnePatch | us guys only get about 20,000 a day you know |
| 22:14.13 | malev | user login depends ssh, pam |
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| 22:14.21 | nemo | omry: sorry to be such a pest, but I really do appreciate your help. But I typed it and it opened in my terminal window but how do I access it from there? |
| 22:14.25 | tosh| | gain once you took 15 mins to learn the basics of vi: vi > pico/nano |
| 22:14.27 | Drakh_ | I am a debian noob :< |
| 22:14.30 | OnePatch | I wasn't trying to start a war... just... not talk so much |
| 22:14.33 | OnePatch | ughs |
| 22:14.41 | omry | nemo, try : nano /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 22:14.42 | malev | that why it is really important that it works ok |
| 22:14.52 | MrSarge | stew: this is what I get.. Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Address already in use, Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ? Aborting. |
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| 22:15.06 | OnePatch | malev: see now I lost interest |
| 22:15.08 | Drakh_ | if someone fondles me immediatly I shall not speak of VI or nano any longer |
| 22:15.15 | stew | MrSarge: thats fine, i just thought maybe mysql wasn't starting, what happens when you try to connect with mysqladmin |
| 22:15.16 | tlyons | is this a channel for actually helping newbies, or for people to flaunt their mastery of complex editors? |
| 22:15.17 | Caelum | install vim and run vimtutor, you'll have basic vi skills in less than 30 minutes |
| 22:15.19 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I typed that command you gave, now what? |
| 22:15.21 | OnePatch | malev: see what happens when you type slow? back to the typing tutor with you |
| 22:15.50 | Drakh_ | type i then type your text type colon wq then press enter ooooh so complex :P |
| 22:15.51 | Drakh_ | lol |
| 22:15.53 | omry | nemo, you got the important nano commands shortcuts at the buttom of the screen. |
| 22:16.00 | Drakh_ | sorry sorry |
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| 22:16.09 | OnePatch | MrSarge : um... I'm lost... what command did I give... let me scroll back |
| 22:16.16 | kanzur1 | anybopdy else? positive that 'adm' is a default-installed user? |
| 22:16.35 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I typed that command you gave, it gave no output |
| 22:16.35 | malev | good night! I google ;) maybe i solve this problem, but this is strange problem, maybe switch distro |
| 22:16.43 | Drakh_ | NOoooooo |
| 22:16.47 | malev | slow |
| 22:16.48 | MrSarge | stew: i typed mysqladmin |
| 22:16.59 | Caelum | fte is a great editor for noobs, it's kinda like the old turbo pascal editor |
| 22:17.06 | Drakh_ | I don't even know what his problem was |
| 22:17.10 | stew | kanzur1: adm is not an account created by the debian-installer if that is what you are asking |
| 22:17.13 | OnePatch | MrSarge: um.. the only I gave was a long complicated way to kill all processes that had anything to do with mysql |
| 22:17.20 | Drakh_ | VI is a good editor for noobs |
| 22:17.23 | Drakh_ | I am a noob |
| 22:17.24 | OnePatch | MrSarge : oh... you were talking to stew... sweet |
| 22:17.27 | tlyons | why use a sledgehammer to kill a mosquito? if a simple tool will do the job, use it. |
| 22:17.30 | MrSarge | OnePatch: well now what? |
| 22:17.34 | stew | kanzur1: there is a adm group however |
| 22:17.35 | kanzur1 | stew: shit; I have more problems than I thought |
| 22:17.38 | kanzur1 | stew: alright |
| 22:17.40 | MrSarge | OnePatch: you cant give a command and then run :P |
| 22:17.40 | kanzur1 | stew: thanks. |
| 22:17.42 | OnePatch | Drakh_ : yes, but you're not new to linux, just debian, there is an infinite difference |
| 22:18.05 | MrSarge | stew: i typed mysqladmin, but how can I import a old database I already have? |
| 22:18.05 | nemo | omry: ok I am at the spot but I dont know how to copy from here. What do I change again? |
| 22:18.08 | Drakh_ | I'm sorta new to linux actually :P I've been using BSD for the last few years |
| 22:18.11 | Drakh_ | but I get your point |
| 22:18.27 | stew | MrSarge: mysql -u user -p database < dumpfile |
| 22:18.27 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I didn't run... I'm still here, just confused... so you typed in my command to kill and start back up... then what? does your log now say it started ok, or does it complain more? |
| 22:18.36 | omry | nemo, copy with the mouse. select to copy. middle mouse button to paste. |
| 22:19.16 | stew | MrSarge: that is assuming you have already created the database |
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| 22:19.39 | OnePatch | stew: and that he has a dumpfile... |
| 22:19.44 | MrSarge | stew: thanks anyway! thats too complicated for me :) Im throwing in the towel :) |
| 22:19.49 | nemo | OK, the things you told me to change have ran too far up the screen for me to get, Could you give them to me again |
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| 22:19.53 | MrSarge | PHP and mysql defeated me |
| 22:19.55 | OnePatch | MrSarge : you can't ask for help then wuss out |
| 22:19.58 | MrSarge | I surrender :) |
| 22:20.01 | OnePatch | no surrender |
| 22:20.05 | OnePatch | fight fight win |
| 22:20.09 | OnePatch | lol |
| 22:20.11 | OnePatch | um... |
| 22:20.12 | OnePatch | ok... |
| 22:20.13 | OnePatch | so... |
| 22:20.20 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i been here for over 1 hour and everyone been really helpful, yet im at nowhere |
| 22:20.26 | OnePatch | importing databases... did you create a dumpfile before doing whatever it was you did? |
| 22:20.35 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i have to admit its too complicated for me :) |
| 22:20.39 | omry | nemo, map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot |
| 22:20.41 | MickMcMack | Hello, where does "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" write the config file to? |
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| 22:20.55 | Caelum | MickMcMack: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 22:20.55 | OnePatch | MrSarge : that's nuffin... I used to spend days on this channel... and still be nowhere ::chuckles:: |
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| 22:21.01 | OnePatch | I guess it all depends on your timeline |
| 22:21.02 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I dont understand dumpfiles etc, so I better to surrender before I drive everuone crazy |
| 22:21.10 | MrSarge | i dont mind admiting I am defeated by mysql :) |
| 22:21.20 | MickMcMack | Caelum, it doesn't change that file, at all. :s |
| 22:21.21 | OnePatch | MickMcMack : /etc/X11/somewhereorother |
| 22:21.26 | Eyaw_Nayr | How can I tell if I am running OSS or ALSA? |
| 22:21.32 | stew | MrSarge: to create one from another database: mysqldump -u user -p database > dumpfile |
| 22:21.39 | *** part/#debian jcorgan (n=jcorgan@64-142-68-61.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 22:21.40 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: lsmod | grep snd_ |
| 22:21.47 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... well... I guess you do know that the channel will still be here later on when you want to review... |
| 22:21.47 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I have a website already, and its written in php and uses mysql! I wanted to have it loaded locally, thats all :) But cant do it |
| 22:22.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 369] by debhelper |
| 22:22.23 | OnePatch | MrSarge : oh, now... that's just too easy... |
| 22:22.25 | OnePatch | you have mysql |
| 22:22.31 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: I don't see an indication of either, does that mean neither is running? |
| 22:22.33 | MrSarge | OnePatch: my mysql is trying to access my old Hosting company |
| 22:22.33 | OnePatch | you have the database remotely somewhere's |
| 22:22.40 | OnePatch | now all you need is mysql-administrator |
| 22:22.47 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: does sound work for you? |
| 22:22.47 | OnePatch | do an apt-get install mysql-admin |
| 22:23.02 | OnePatch | and then load it into a gui... and/or download it for windows and use that... |
| 22:23.04 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@81.215.234.108] by debhelper |
| 22:23.11 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: no, I am tring to get it to work. I know it should, it works on slack |
| 22:23.11 | OnePatch | then all you have to supply is a user name and a password |
| 22:23.16 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i had it hosted on an old domain, and it seems to be trying to access my old domain and I dont know how to change it |
| 22:23.19 | OnePatch | you get a gui for backup and recover... it's nice |
| 22:23.35 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: go to alsa.opensrc.org, find the right sound driver, and modprobe it |
| 22:23.36 | OnePatch | MrSarge : that'll be reconfiguration of your website application |
| 22:23.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : what app is it? |
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| 22:23.48 | MickMcMack | It doesn't write any files to that directory. :( |
| 22:23.59 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: Is alsa installed by defualt if I installed debian on a 2.6? |
| 22:24.03 | MrSarge | OnePatch: what app is what? |
| 22:24.23 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: yes |
| 22:24.27 | MrSarge | OnePatch: im installing mysql-admin atm too btw |
| 22:24.30 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: oss is considered obsolete now |
| 22:24.32 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: I installed the nvsound driver and modprobed it, but I get an error |
| 22:24.37 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: let me find it |
| 22:24.38 | OnePatch | MrSarge : good man... |
| 22:24.39 | stew | Eyaw_Nayr: the kernel drivers are but not the userspace tools |
| 22:24.49 | OnePatch | MrSarge : what app is running on your website that uses mysql as a backend? |
| 22:24.51 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I know there is a simple fix somwhere :) |
| 22:25.07 | Caelum | MrSarge: mysqldump didn't work for you? |
| 22:25.11 | lanchow | who wrote "so what", miles davis ? |
| 22:25.12 | nemo | omry: ok, Before I try to reboot I want to make sure I did this right. .... I erased what was under XP, and one line at a time typed what you had.then I just save right??? |
| 22:25.15 | MickMcMack | -_-; |
| 22:25.18 | MickMcMack | Anyone? |
| 22:25.24 | MrSarge | OnePatch: its sitting locally, I dont have it on any website atm. I stopped using the old hosting company 6 months ago |
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| 22:25.33 | omry | nemo, sounds right. |
| 22:25.39 | stew | MrSarge: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 22:25.40 | stew | err |
| 22:25.41 | MrSarge | Caelum: i didnt do it, because I didnt understand what dump was :P |
| 22:25.43 | stew | MickMcMack: ^^^ |
| 22:25.43 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: Error while initializing the sound driver: |
| 22:25.46 | Eyaw_Nayr | device: default can't be opened for playback (No such device) |
| 22:25.55 | nemo | omry: ok wish me luck .... And thank you so very much |
| 22:25.58 | MickMcMack | Thanks. |
| 22:26.09 | omry | nemo, gl |
| 22:26.25 | MrSarge | OnePatch: and when I try to load it locally typing "localhost" in firefox, it tries to access the old hosting company's mysql :P |
| 22:26.49 | stew | Eyaw_Nayr: you have alsa-base and alsa-util pacakages? |
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| 22:26.58 | Eyaw_Nayr | stew: yes |
| 22:27.18 | Caelum | MickMcMack: it's supposed to be XF86Config-4, but you might as well be using xorg |
| 22:27.20 | omry | what do you say guys, will nemo manage to boot? :) |
| 22:27.35 | aeronadix | I am desperately seeking tech support to make my middle mouse button work on my rented thinkpad laptop |
| 22:28.08 | tremor | to work which way? |
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| 22:28.35 | nemo | omry: I forgot to ask how do I save in nano? |
| 22:28.37 | stew | Eyaw_Nayr: did you run alsaconf? what driver are you using? |
| 22:28.44 | Eyaw_Nayr | didnt run alsaconf, hold on |
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| 22:28.53 | bannedit | nemo ctrl-O |
| 22:29.00 | Caelum | aeronadix: try tpconfig |
| 22:29.04 | MrSarge | stew: When I tried those command you gave me it said: Cannot coonnect to server at 'localhost' failed ; error: 'Access denied for user: 'lisa@localhost' (Using password: NO)' |
| 22:29.12 | aeronadix | Caelum, ok thanks |
| 22:29.13 | omry | nemo, all importent things are at the buttom of nano |
| 22:29.13 | MrSarge | OnePatch: you still around? |
| 22:29.20 | stew | MrSarge: have you setup any mysql users yet? |
| 22:29.31 | OnePatch | MrSarge : yeah |
| 22:29.31 | Caelum | aeronadix: apt-cache search synaptics for other stuff |
| 22:29.35 | nemo | omry I see all but save? |
| 22:29.35 | OnePatch | MrSarge : phone rang |
| 22:29.38 | MrSarge | stew: how do I set up a user? |
| 22:29.46 | omry | nemo, it says writeout or something. |
| 22:29.50 | Caelum | MrSarge: adduser |
| 22:29.54 | nemo | OIC |
| 22:29.55 | MrSarge | OnePatch: hope it was a nice phone call ;) |
| 22:29.55 | stew | Caelum: no |
| 22:29.56 | aeronadix | I installed synaptics, but I don't know what to do with it next |
| 22:30.01 | octoberdan | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 22:30.04 | octoberdan | Ahh! |
| 22:30.05 | stew | MrSarge: look up the grant statement |
| 22:30.11 | Caelum | oh, mysql user |
| 22:30.12 | MrSarge | Caelum: i a;ready have a user, me |
| 22:30.15 | OnePatch | MrSarge : so... when you attempt to connect as lisa... you're not using a password... additionally I have a concern that lisa may not be a user on your newly installed mysql on localhost |
| 22:30.19 | Caelum | MrSarge: mysqladmin |
| 22:30.20 | Eyaw_Nayr | stew: ran alsaconf, didn't do anything. I have onboard Nvidia sound, so I downloaded and installed the nvsound driver |
| 22:30.21 | MrSarge | OnePatch: may I message you? |
| 22:30.29 | nemo | omry: ok cool got it, TY here I go |
| 22:30.29 | Eyaw_Nayr | stew: did modprobe nvsound |
| 22:30.35 | Eyaw_Nayr | stew:still no luck |
| 22:30.40 | MickMcMack | How can I kill X? |
| 22:30.41 | MickMcMack | :( |
| 22:31.14 | stew | Eyaw_Nayr: sorry i dunnno then. maybe: /msg dpkg nvsound |
| 22:31.17 | MrSarge | OnePatch: its nearly installed, the mysql-admin |
| 22:31.28 | stew | MickMcMack: ctrl-alt-bksp |
| 22:31.32 | Caelum | MrSarge: you can also change to the "mysql" db and insert a line into the user table |
| 22:31.41 | MickMcMack | It restarts as soon as I do that, stew. |
| 22:31.45 | MrSarge | Caelum: no idea what that means |
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| 22:32.05 | MickMcMack | It's annoying, it finds the nvidia driver, and loads X fine - but the screen is all darl. |
| 22:32.09 | MickMcMack | *k |
| 22:32.19 | MickMcMack | And my other monitor just switches itself off. :s |
| 22:32.45 | MrSarge | my website is trying to access my old hiosting company! says: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysql.optusnet.com.au' (4) |
| 22:33.00 | tremor | MickMcMack: xdm? /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| 22:33.06 | MickMcMack | Thanks. |
| 22:33.14 | MrSarge | OnePatch: how can I change that? |
| 22:33.14 | Caelum | MrSarge: err... I got that wrong. Type mysql -u root and then "help create user" |
| 22:33.46 | MrSarge | Caelum: its nearly installed, the mysql-admin. wont that help me do all this? |
| 22:34.11 | MickMcMack | tremor, it says xdm isn't running. |
| 22:34.11 | Caelum | MrSarge: yes |
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| 22:34.31 | Caelum | mysql has it's advantages, once you know how it works. Like the blindingly fast InnoDB tables |
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| 22:34.53 | tremor | h, hopingm that stew has a idea |
| 22:34.56 | AJ-Mpls | Is there a netcfg or some utility for easier setup of IP address for debian box? |
| 22:34.56 | SerajewelKS | is it possible to have mysqld bind to more than one ip address? |
| 22:35.04 | Caelum | AJ-Mpls: man interfaces |
| 22:35.08 | SerajewelKS | AJ-Mpls, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:35.24 | Caelum | SerajewelKS: I think so |
| 22:35.43 | MickMcMack | OK, did it. |
| 22:35.55 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: that's for playback, what happens when you modprobe the module? |
| 22:36.02 | stew | MickMcMack: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 22:36.07 | OnePatch | MrSarge : go for it... I'm finally off the phone now. |
| 22:36.14 | MickMcMack | So does anyone have any idea why the screen is all dark when X loads up? :s |
| 22:36.18 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: what do you mean? |
| 22:36.19 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i loaded the mysql-admin. not sure what to do |
| 22:36.21 | stew | MickMcMack: err try gdm xdm kdm whatever |
| 22:36.27 | MickMcMack | stew, I killed it. |
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| 22:36.32 | stew | MickMcMack: sorry i'm lagged |
| 22:36.34 | OnePatch | MrSarge : you have x-windows? |
| 22:36.38 | MickMcMack | No probs. |
| 22:36.53 | MickMcMack | But, I've never seen this before... :S |
| 22:37.06 | tremor | MickMcMack: possibly you override your monitor with your xserver settings |
| 22:37.07 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: for your sound driver |
| 22:37.15 | OnePatch | MrSarge :???? |
| 22:37.19 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: if the driver is loaded, cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 22:37.25 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I have a website php files on my hard drive! it used to be stored on a hosting company! but its not anymore! It contains php files and uses a mysql database! all i wanted to do was to run it locally from hard drive |
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| 22:37.29 | aeronadix | I can't remember my password but I have root access, is there away to find out the password with root access? |
| 22:37.33 | MickMcMack | It gives a MEM error on startup (x does). |
| 22:37.34 | Eyaw_Nayr | cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 22:37.37 | MrSarge | OnePatch: whats x-windows? |
| 22:37.39 | ixion | ping? |
| 22:37.45 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I read you loud and clear |
| 22:38.02 | MrSarge | OnePatch: and my website is trying to access my old hiosting company! says: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysql.optusnet.com.au' (4) |
| 22:38.08 | MickMcMack | tremor, if I have done that, how can I correct it? |
| 22:38.08 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: no such file or directory |
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| 22:38.23 | OnePatch | MrSarge : lol, nevermind... I guess mysql-admin won't help you and we'll have to do everything from command line, but that's no big hurdle... just... less eye-candy |
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| 22:38.26 | MrSarge | OnePatch: but I dont use 'mysql.optusnet.com.au' anymore |
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| 22:38.28 | ethan | hi |
| 22:38.36 | MrSarge | OnePatch: hehe ok :) |
| 22:38.51 | ethan | is anybody familiar with getting debian to work with oldworld macs? |
| 22:38.59 | tremor | MickMcMack: hope with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:39.08 | tremor | or xserver-xorg |
| 22:39.21 | OnePatch | MrSarge : does it give a line number for that error? and/or is there a configuration file for your php files that we can work with? and/or... do you care if you ever access their site again? |
| 22:39.21 | MrSarge | OnePatch: so whats our first step? |
| 22:39.22 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: and apparently, the snd-intel8x0 drivers should work, but when I do insmod snd-intel8x0 it cant find it, despite it being in modules.conf |
| 22:39.25 | MickMcMack | tremor, I've been doing dpkg-reconfigure for a few hours now. -_- |
| 22:39.31 | OnePatch | MrSarge : we can always reroute their site to localhost... |
| 22:39.43 | MrSarge | OnePatch: no I dont want to access their site again ever |
| 22:39.44 | OnePatch | MrSarge : very much a hack... but... this is a personal site I'm assuming |
| 22:39.54 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes personal site |
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| 22:40.01 | OnePatch | MrSarge: you know how to use vi? |
| 22:40.01 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: which module did you load? |
| 22:40.01 | ethan | um |
| 22:40.04 | MrSarge | OnePatch: was created for me by someone once |
| 22:40.13 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I know this story... |
| 22:40.14 | tremor | MickMcMack: hm, tried vesa? |
| 22:40.15 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it cost me $2200 :) |
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| 22:40.24 | OnePatch | MrSarge : sweet... how long ago was that? |
| 22:40.25 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: I did insmod snd-intel8x0 but It couldn't find the file |
| 22:40.29 | OnePatch | MrSarge : nevermind |
| 22:40.32 | MrSarge | OnePatch: about 12 months ago |
| 22:40.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... so... we want to do a vi /etc/hosts |
| 22:40.43 | MickMcMack | tremor, explain? :s |
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| 22:40.49 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i placed all files into /var/www |
| 22:41.02 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and then, once we're their do a <shift>+g to get to the end of the file |
| 22:41.11 | aeronadix | can I copy all the configu file of a user 's home directory to another user. And then if so, how do I make them readable by the other user? |
| 22:41.14 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then 'o' to add a line and go into edit mode |
| 22:41.14 | MickMcMack | I have never had a problem setting up X before, but now I'm trying to install it on my new PC, and it's being a little bugger. :( |
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| 22:41.30 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum, so what could make it so i couldn't insert a module listed in modules.conf? |
| 22:41.31 | ethan | Is anybody familiar with debian on oldworld macs??? |
| 22:41.33 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok done |
| 22:41.39 | ethan | ^ |
| 22:41.40 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then type "127.0.0.1" <tab> "name of foul hosting server here" |
| 22:42.06 | tremor | MickMcMack: at the question for ati, sis, etc.. choose fb or so |
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| 22:42.08 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then try your site again... and see if we're getting the same error message |
| 22:42.09 | seth_slackware | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.22 | OnePatch | MrSarge : oh wait |
| 22:42.24 | MickMcMack | Yessir. o> |
| 22:42.29 | tremor | but mem err .. no idea |
| 22:42.33 | seth_slackware | I said Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
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| 22:42.34 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I type 127.0.0.1 and press enter? |
| 22:42.36 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then <esc> :wq! |
| 22:42.38 | seth_slackware | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.42 | ethan | so nobody is familiar with oldworld macs? |
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| 22:42.43 | Knorrie | i want to use X forwarding, i ssh to a sarge box with the -X option, but remote i don't get a DISPLAY env variable |
| 22:42.45 | OnePatch | MrSarge : to quit and force save |
| 22:42.46 | ethan | .. |
| 22:42.48 | seth_slackware | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.55 | isam | A box had been compromised because it had an easy to break password, and a public IP.. I am trying to fix things up.. I wanted to verify that all binaries in the system are the ones that came with the packages.. |
| 22:42.56 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I type 127.0.0.1 and press enter, and then <esc> ? |
| 22:42.58 | Knorrie | the remote box has 'X11Forwarding yes' in sshd_config |
| 22:42.58 | seth_slackware | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.04 | isam | what is te dpkg command for that ? |
| 22:43.10 | isam | like a check all command .. md5 check or something for all binaries |
| 22:43.13 | seth_slackware | I said Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
| 22:43.32 | OnePatch | MrSarge : 127.0.0.1 then tab then the name of the old server then esc then ":wq!" to save out |
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| 22:43.37 | ethan | ok, nobody is listening... |
| 22:43.44 | seth_slackware | I said Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
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| 22:44.03 | MickMcMack | O_o; |
| 22:44.04 | seth_slackware | lilo: Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
| 22:44.11 | *** part/#debian blablub (n=blubber@p54B2C38C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:44.19 | cddesjar | does the irssi deb package come with an icon? |
| 22:44.19 | MickMcMack | tremor, dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to write ANY files... :| |
| 22:44.20 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and if we screw up, before the save |
| 22:44.30 | MrSarge | OnePatch: sorry im lost :P I typed 127.0.0.1 , then pressed TAB, then typed mysql.optusenet.com.au |
| 22:44.33 | OnePatch | MrSarge : we can hit esc a few times and then :q! to quit without saving |
| 22:44.35 | seth_slackware | I said Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
| 22:44.40 | tremor | ethan: i never worked on macs, so my answer wouldn't help you |
| 22:44.40 | OnePatch | MrSarge : perfect |
| 22:44.50 | ethan | ok... o.o |
| 22:44.50 | OnePatch | MrSarge : now just hit esc to get back out of edit mode |
| 22:44.54 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then a colon |
| 22:44.57 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/pci/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko |
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| 22:44.58 | seth_slackware | Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
| 22:45.00 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then wq |
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| 22:45.04 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: err, ls -l that |
| 22:45.08 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then an exclamation point |
| 22:45.13 | cddesjar | what is the directory where the icons are located? |
| 22:45.15 | susp3ct | isam, check out http://securityfocus.net |
| 22:45.16 | seth_slackware | are we having a good time? |
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| 22:45.29 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done |
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| 22:45.36 | seth_slackware | becaus I am Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
| 22:45.50 | tremor | MickMcMack: xf86setup/config also doesn'twork? |
| 22:45.51 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I pressed esc, and then typed :ws! |
| 22:45.54 | Knorrie | seth_slackware: stop that |
| 22:45.56 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... now try your site again, see if it gives back the same error message |
| 22:46.03 | seth_slackware | Talking about a good time we gona have a good time |
| 22:46.05 | OnePatch | MrSarge : or a different one |
| 22:46.13 | MrSarge | OnePatch: now it says.. Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
| 22:46.17 | MickMcMack | tremor, command not found |
| 22:46.22 | stew | cddesjar: "dpkg -L pkgname" to list the files in a package, icons are in /usr/share/icons |
| 22:46.31 | MrSarge | OnePatch: different error this time |
| 22:46.32 | cddesjar | thanks |
| 22:46.38 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: alright I found it, now what |
| 22:46.49 | OnePatch | MrSarge : back at the command line, do a 'mysql -u root' |
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| 22:47.17 | cddesjar | ah...so there is no associated .png file |
| 22:47.25 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok, btw this is fuin :) im learning heaps, ty |
| 22:47.25 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then from the command prompt ">" do grant all privileges on *.* to 'lisa'@'localhost.localdomain' |
| 22:47.30 | stew | MrSarge: did you create a new md5sum for your XF86Config-4? |
| 22:47.33 | stew | MickMcMack: ^^^ |
| 22:47.38 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: run depmod -a and try to modprobe snd-intel8x0 again |
| 22:47.39 | stew | MrSarge: sorry, misfire |
| 22:47.48 | OnePatch | MrSarge : no worries... I'm having fun too *grins* |
| 22:48.15 | MrSarge | OnePatch: what I type at the > ? I type: grant all privileges on *.* to 'lisa'@'localhost.localdomain' |
| 22:48.35 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: no errors, lets see if it works. I ran depmod, but I don't know what it does. What is its purpose |
| 22:48.36 | servus | FLUSH PRIVILIGES; after all GRANTs. |
| 22:48.38 | OnePatch | MrSarge : looks right to me |
| 22:48.47 | OnePatch | servus : good call |
| 22:48.49 | MickMcMack | stew, yessir I did. |
| 22:48.55 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: to tell modprobe about all the installed modules and their dependencies |
| 22:49.02 | OnePatch | MrSarge : after that line it'll give you another > |
| 22:49.04 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok done, it now shows a -> |
| 22:49.12 | OnePatch | MrSarge : just type ; and hit enter |
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| 22:49.35 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done |
| 22:49.40 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and then, per servus, type flush privileges; on the next line |
| 22:49.40 | MrSarge | :) |
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| 22:49.57 | MrSarge | OnePatch: sorry? what do I now type? |
| 22:50.11 | MickMcMack | stew, I did the command that dpkg just told me. |
| 22:50.14 | OnePatch | MrSarge : type : flush privileges; |
| 22:50.22 | MrSarge | OnePatch: when I typed ; and enter, it skipped me out of the program |
| 22:50.27 | OnePatch | MrSarge : really? |
| 22:50.31 | stew | MickMcMack: if your md5sum is correct dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 WILL overwrite the XF86Config-4 file |
| 22:50.32 | MrSarge | OnePatch: no my mistake |
| 22:50.35 | MrSarge | OnePatch: sorry |
| 22:50.35 | Caelum | MrSarge: make sure to use the manual on mysql.com too, it's very good |
| 22:50.35 | OnePatch | MrSarge : what was it's malfunction? |
| 22:50.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : phew |
| 22:50.50 | MrSarge | OnePatch: so now I type "per servus" ? |
| 22:50.52 | OnePatch | MrSarge : so, ware we back at a "->"? |
| 22:50.56 | servus | No! |
| 22:50.58 | OnePatch | MrSarge : naw... |
| 22:51.04 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: I went into KControl and ran the "test sound" function, but It still made the same error. Now that the module is loaded, is there something else I need to do to make alsa work? |
| 22:51.09 | OnePatch | MrSarge : type : flush privileges; |
| 22:51.15 | MrSarge | flush privileges |
| 22:51.19 | MrSarge | ok |
| 22:51.20 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: try cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 22:51.25 | OnePatch | MrSarge : with the semi-colon |
| 22:51.34 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done :) |
| 22:51.34 | OnePatch | MrSarge : or you'll have to input it on the next line by itself |
| 22:51.43 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I know, tough punishment |
| 22:51.44 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: --- no soundcards --- |
| 22:51.49 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, so check the site again... |
| 22:51.57 | OnePatch | MrSarge : let's see what it has to complain about now |
| 22:52.01 | ixion | can anyone help me out with spamassassin, I've read the docs on their webpage but I still cant figure out what my problem is |
| 22:52.03 | stew | OnePatch: you know, you don't need to flush priveleges after a grant |
| 22:52.10 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: looks like you used the wrong module |
| 22:52.13 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok, now it says.. Access denied for user: 'etern@localhost.localdomain' (Using password: YES) |
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| 22:52.26 | OnePatch | stew: that particular grant actually created a user methingks... |
| 22:52.27 | MrSarge | OnePatch: etern was my mysql username from before |
| 22:52.28 | servus | Don't use a password because you didn't set a password. |
| 22:52.38 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: let me try loading the nvsound module again, but the one I loaded supposedly works |
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| 22:52.42 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and you know the password? |
| 22:52.53 | servus | You'd have to do GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO etern@'localhost.localdomain' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpass'; |
| 22:53.03 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes |
| 22:53.08 | OnePatch | MrSarge : a simple yes or no will suffice; |
| 22:53.18 | OnePatch | MrSarge : excellent |
| 22:53.29 | OnePatch | MrSarge : now, see what servus just posted? |
| 22:53.46 | MrSarge | servus: how do I do that? |
| 22:53.46 | OnePatch | MrSarge : that's what you want to type on your mysql replacing 'yourpass' with yourpass |
| 22:53.53 | MickMcMack | stew, I use the md5sum check that dpkg tells me. My computer tells me the XF86Config-4 file and the /var/lib...XF86Config-4/.md5sum are identical. |
| 22:54.00 | MrSarge | OnePatch: how do I GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO etern@'localhost.localdomain' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpass';? |
| 22:54.07 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: the NVSound driver is located in the OSS driver folder, so I suppose I cant do that. But according to /msg dpkg nvsound, the snd-intel8x0 driver should work in place of it |
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| 22:54.20 | OnePatch | MrSarge : back at the '>' prompt for mysql |
| 22:54.26 | OnePatch | MrSarge : did you quit out of that? |
| 22:54.43 | MrSarge | OnePatch: no its still open |
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| 22:54.53 | OnePatch | MrSarge : just copy and paste it there |
| 22:55.06 | MrSarge | OnePatch: so I type there: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO etern@'localhost.localdomain' |
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| 22:55.26 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and then IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpass'; |
| 22:55.26 | servus | No! |
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| 22:55.36 | servus | I'm starting to think that MrSarge is trolling |
| 22:55.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : replacing 'yourpass' with your actual password. |
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| 22:55.57 | OnePatch | servus: I highly doubt it |
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| 22:56.04 | OnePatch | servus : he's just being extremely careful |
| 22:56.05 | MrSarge | servus: PLEASE dont do that, dont judge me falsely, im trying my heart out here |
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| 22:56.13 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok, ill try that now |
| 22:56.17 | MickMcMack | o.O |
| 22:56.21 | OnePatch | :) |
| 22:56.21 | servus | Okay okay, golly. |
| 22:56.42 | OnePatch | servus: no worries m8 |
| 22:56.43 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok done |
| 22:56.52 | OnePatch | MrSarge: and the site? does it still complain? |
| 22:56.55 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it didnt say anything, im at the < again |
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| 22:57.03 | norskfjord | Once I've done apt-get install kernal-image 2.6.8 |
| 22:57.08 | MickMcMack | So, is there a way to make dpkg-reconfigure write to a non-standard location? |
| 22:57.09 | MickMcMack | :-/ |
| 22:57.11 | norskfjord | now do I have to reboot? |
| 22:57.12 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: which kernel version are you using? |
| 22:57.13 | OnePatch | MrSarge : nothing at all? not even a '0 rows affected' or somesuch? |
| 22:57.14 | MrSarge | OnePatch: its giving the same message |
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| 22:57.20 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: also check lspci |
| 22:57.23 | cddesjar | norskfjord: yes |
| 22:57.25 | Eyaw_Nayr | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 22:57.27 | norskfjord | brb |
| 22:57.30 | OnePatch | *hrms* |
| 22:57.31 | MrSarge | OnePatch: its giving the same message as before. |
| 22:57.35 | cddesjar | are you guys running sarge? |
| 22:57.38 | cddesjar | why not 2.6.12? |
| 22:57.51 | OnePatch | MrSarge : um... ok, are you sure you got the password right? |
| 22:57.58 | norskfjord | I got kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 22:58.07 | r3gii | should I install pident to connect to othet servers? |
| 22:58.12 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I typed: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO etern@'localhost.localdomain' mypassword |
| 22:58.21 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes, its right password |
| 22:58.29 | norskfjord | bbs |
| 22:58.30 | MrSarge | OnePatch: im not 100%, but 90% |
| 22:58.36 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum: I have 2.6.8-2-386, and lspci doesnt have anything that my eyes can see. It is onboard sound, so I dont know if it would show up in lspci |
| 22:58.38 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... um... did you leave out the 'IDENTIFIED BY' sub-section? |
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| 22:59.08 | OnePatch | MrSarge : cause then it should have given you some error... about you not having your syntax right or somesuch... |
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| 22:59.26 | MrSarge | OnePatch: at the > I typed: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO etern@'localhost.localdomain' mypassword |
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| 22:59.32 | MickMcMack | -__-; |
| 22:59.44 | MrSarge | OnePatch: was that right? |
| 22:59.45 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, type a ';' on the new > |
| 22:59.51 | OnePatch | MrSarge : it hasn't gone thru yet |
| 22:59.53 | MrSarge | ok |
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| 23:00.03 | *** part/#debian eSXukae (n=pevae@62.162.209.183) |
| 23:00.04 | OnePatch | MrSarge : but I can gaurantee that it will complain about syntax... |
| 23:00.15 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. |
| 23:00.24 | MrSarge | OnePatch: you are right :P |
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| 23:00.38 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... so now you want to type : |
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| 23:01.01 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done |
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| 23:01.05 | *** part/#debian OiWoAee (n=pevae@62.162.209.183) |
| 23:01.28 | OnePatch | MrSarge : GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'stern'@'localhost.localdomain' IDENTIFIED BY 'mypassword'; |
| 23:01.47 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: it has to. It should say multimedia or audio or something like that. If it doesn't, make sure your sound card is enabled in cmos setup |
| 23:01.53 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ... |
| 23:02.00 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
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| 23:02.04 | OnePatch | MrSarge : did you type in the colon *chuckles* |
| 23:02.08 | cees | Debian ppc Sarge / Ibook xmms as root without problem. But as user Ican't get sound can som one help me |
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| 23:02.19 | OnePatch | MrSarge : cause that would be funny and wrong and... just funny... hehehehe |
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| 23:02.31 | OnePatch | MrSarge : cause it will come back and complain again |
| 23:02.35 | servus | cees: As root, chmod +s `which xmms` ? |
| 23:02.37 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and this time it'll be my fault |
| 23:02.38 | *** part/#debian MegaManX (n=megamanx@1-1-15-46a.vhe.sth.bostream.se) |
| 23:02.38 | Caelum | cees: add yourself to group audio |
| 23:02.43 | OnePatch | MrSarge : *sighs* |
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| 23:02.50 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes I typed ; |
| 23:02.53 | Caelum | cees: then logout and log back in |
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| 23:03.03 | OnePatch | MrSarge : so did it go thru with no errors this time? |
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| 23:03.08 | versuchsanstalt | cees: you need to be in the audio group, that's all |
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| 23:03.27 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said, Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| 23:03.33 | *** part/#debian mntnpngn (n=zinc@cpe-24-168-145-62.nj.res.rr.com) |
| 23:03.37 | Eyaw_Nayr | Caelum, 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 008a (rev a1) |
| 23:03.38 | MickMcMack | Ffs. >_< |
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| 23:03.43 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, try the site again... this time... it might just give us a different error... |
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| 23:03.51 | OnePatch | MickMcMack : you from ireland? |
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| 23:04.02 | MickMcMack | OnePatch, England. |
| 23:04.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it still says; Access denied for user: 'etern@localhost.localdomain' (Using password: YES) |
| 23:04.10 | cees | chmod +s "which xmms" |
| 23:04.15 | Jamie_85 | does anyone know where there is a webaddress which I can add to my sourcelist file so i can apt-get install libapache2-mod-fastcgi? It appears to be missing or something at the momment by default. |
| 23:04.26 | OnePatch | MickMcMack : well, I guess you're still in the locality where us yanks wouldn't know what ffs meant, *chuckles* |
| 23:04.36 | MickMcMack | I am actually going to cry if this doesn't work. :( |
| 23:04.40 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, that's no good... |
| 23:04.42 | MickMcMack | :) |
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| 23:04.45 | tremor | MickMcMack: can you 'borrow' the conf from some live-distro and test? |
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| 23:04.48 | OnePatch | MrSarge : quit out of mysql |
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| 23:04.53 | mntnpngn | I can use some help... X froze up but I can still ssh into the box... I have some things written down on kedit but it will be lost if I kill X. Is there a way to dump the memory of the process? |
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| 23:05.05 | servus | cees: The backquotes `` are very important |
| 23:05.09 | OnePatch | MrSarge : cd into the directory where you have your scripts and do a 'grep -i pass *.php' |
| 23:05.15 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok I quit |
| 23:05.27 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:05.43 | OnePatch | MrSarge : alright... live to fight another day |
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| 23:05.58 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done |
| 23:06.00 | MickMcMack | tremor, I don't have a live-distro, |
| 23:06.11 | Caelum | Eyaw_Nayr: try compiling the NVsound driver against the kernel-source package maybe, but first try upgrading to 2.6.13 |
| 23:06.11 | OnePatch | MrSarge : we're only about 10 steps from completion.. but learning them and doing them... will dake alot of time... |
| 23:06.14 | MickMcMack | I'm googling for a conf that matches my system closely-ish. |
| 23:06.15 | tremor | MickMcMack: i had some probs today on my laptop today, sounding like yours atm. |
| 23:06.20 | agney | how can I increase gkrellm window size / |
| 23:06.28 | OnePatch | MrSarge : did it return anything interesting...?? like a password for your scripts? |
| 23:06.33 | *** part/#debian waltz (n=walterbr@69.158.110.193) |
| 23:06.33 | MickMcMack | Heh. |
| 23:06.39 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said; database.php: @mysql_pconnect($dbserver, $dbuser, $dbpassword) or die (mysql_error()); |
| 23:06.39 | MrSarge | dbconfig.php: $dbpassword = "goodlife2002"; |
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| 23:06.44 | MickMcMack | It's this crappy "64 bit" malarky. |
| 23:06.52 | MickMcMack | Why oh why did I buy into it? |
| 23:06.56 | MickMcMack | Change is BAD. :| |
| 23:07.00 | MrSarge | OnePatch: does that mean the password is goodlife200? |
| 23:07.04 | OnePatch | MrSarge : tell me you didn't just paste your password into |
| 23:07.07 | OnePatch | MrSarge : yeah |
| 23:07.07 | Caelum | MickMcMack: why not just write the config file yourself? |
| 23:07.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: that wasnt the password I uses earlier |
| 23:07.14 | OnePatch | MrSarge : that's what it means alright |
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| 23:07.20 | MickMcMack | Caelum, I have no idea how to. :) |
| 23:07.27 | cees | I did, but the message Your soundcard is conf ... Yopu have the correct plugin ... No other program is blocking ... I think if I get the sound as root those problems don't exist as user ??? |
| 23:07.31 | MickMcMack | Well, I have no idea whay to put in. |
| 23:07.33 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok so I try that then |
| 23:07.35 | OnePatch | MrSarge : now... my recommendation |
| 23:07.37 | MickMcMack | *t |
| 23:07.40 | OnePatch | MrSarge : no |
| 23:07.44 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do this... |
| 23:07.55 | OnePatch | MrSarge : vi the file that had the goofie line in it |
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| 23:08.08 | OnePatch | MrSarge : the do a search for that by typing '/' |
| 23:08.16 | MickMcMack | Caelum, if you fancy walking me through it, be my guest. :P |
| 23:08.17 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then the goofie bit |
| 23:08.22 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and then enter |
| 23:08.24 | Caelum | MickMcMack: is it a laptop? pages on the linuxlaptops web site have working configs |
| 23:08.26 | mntnpngn | anyone know how to dump the memory image of a process? |
| 23:08.31 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and the if it finds it |
| 23:08.35 | cees | How can I see what program is on my sound card? |
| 23:08.37 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i type vi dbconfig.php ? |
| 23:09.01 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do a 'cw' for change word mode and type over that old password that the whole world now knows, with the password that is actually in mysql that we don't all know |
| 23:09.03 | Caelum | MickMcMack: linux-laptop.net |
| 23:09.04 | MickMcMack | Caelum, no - it's a desktop. |
| 23:09.16 | MrSarge | OnePatch: heh ;) |
| 23:09.27 | OnePatch | MrSarge : yep, 'vi dbconfig.php' |
| 23:09.33 | Caelum | MickMcMack: oh, sorry was thinking about something else. Which graphics card? |
| 23:09.46 | MickMcMack | nvidia 7800GTX |
| 23:09.52 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I changed the password in there |
| 23:09.57 | MrSarge | OnePatch: now? |
| 23:09.59 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then hit esc |
| 23:10.07 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then a colon |
| 23:10.10 | *** part/#debian adem (n=Hero@unaffiliated/adem) |
| 23:10.11 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then wq |
| 23:10.16 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then an exclamation poitn |
| 23:10.24 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and try the site again |
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| 23:10.39 | MickMcMack | MrSarge, why don't you just use pico/nano if you don't know how to use vi? :s |
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| 23:10.51 | OnePatch | MickMcMack : this is good education for him |
| 23:10.56 | *** part/#debian Ieejw (n=pevae@62.162.209.183) |
| 23:11.00 | MickMcMack | :D |
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| 23:11.16 | OnePatch | MickMcMack : besides, I can't give directions in other stuff... cause I don't know, and these directions... they are very precise, no? |
| 23:11.27 | MickMcMack | Caelum, nvidia7800GTX using kernel 2.6.13-1-kx-smp |
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| 23:11.44 | MickMcMack | OnePatch, yep indeedly. :) |
| 23:12.00 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes but dont I before that have to type " GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'stern'@'localhost.localdomain' IDENTIFIED BY 'newpassword'; ? |
| 23:12.01 | MickMcMack | *k8 not kx :s |
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| 23:12.32 | OnePatch | MrSarge : if you used a brand new password other than the one that you granted priveleges on before |
| 23:12.38 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then while a good idea |
| 23:12.45 | OnePatch | MrSarge : this would still be wrong |
| 23:12.55 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok done |
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| 23:13.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: still getting : Access denied for user: 'etern@localhost.localdomain' (Using password: YES) |
| 23:13.10 | *** part/#debian mikeX (i=mike@ppp-229-087.dialup.ntua.gr) |
| 23:13.11 | OnePatch | MrSarge : the thing to do would be to... change the password of stern in the system... not add another one... |
| 23:13.18 | norskfjord | Whoah, it seems like my computer is running faster after updating the kernel from 2.4 386 to 2.6 686 |
| 23:13.24 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and this is done rather simply... |
| 23:13.33 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I typed " GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'stern'@'localhost.localdomain' IDENTIFIED BY 'newpassword'; |
| 23:13.45 | MrSarge | OnePatch: do I need to quit it before it saves? |
| 23:13.46 | OnePatch | MrSarge : from a command prompt, just type in... 'mysqladmin -u stern -p password newpassword' |
| 23:13.53 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
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| 23:14.04 | bannedit | norskfjord, it likely is |
| 23:14.10 | OnePatch | MrSarge : where password is the word password and newpassword is the new password |
| 23:14.32 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said, error: 'Access denied for user: 'stern@localhost' (Using password: YES)' |
| 23:14.37 | OnePatch | MrSarge : no, you have to do a semi-colon at the end of the line for it to process |
| 23:14.41 | bannedit | 2.6 moved to sysenter iirc which is usually faster than normal syscalling |
| 23:14.42 | FliesLikeABrick | anyone ever solved the issue of hanging on resume from hibernate/sleep when using the fglrx drivers for ati? |
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| 23:14.52 | OnePatch | MrSarge: ok, new tac |
| 23:14.56 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I quited that and typed "mysqladmin -u stern -p password newpassword |
| 23:15.06 | OnePatch | MrSarge : back in 'mysql -u root' |
| 23:15.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: but it said, error: 'Access denied for user: 'stern@localhost' (Using password: YES)' |
| 23:15.11 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do a use 'mysql' |
| 23:15.11 | norskfjord | I thought it might be better with 686 then 386 since I have a P3 733 |
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| 23:15.30 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then DELETE FROM user WHERE user='stern'; |
| 23:15.42 | MickMcMack | Caelum, any ideas? |
| 23:15.49 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I typed myqsl |
| 23:15.50 | OnePatch | MrSarge : er... |
| 23:16.05 | meff | OnePatch: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/drop-user.html |
| 23:16.10 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I got lost... from the prompt do > use mysql; |
| 23:16.17 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said, ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the rightsyntax to use near 'mysql |
| 23:16.18 | MrSarge | DELETE FROM user WHERE user='stern'' at line 1 |
| 23:16.26 | OnePatch | meff: I know it ain't right, but it does work... |
| 23:16.34 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:16.43 | f3nix | hello, i have just installed debian sarge i386, i chose grub as my boot manager, after trying to boot i get: "grub loading, please wait" and nothing happens |
| 23:16.49 | f3nix | no error messages etc |
| 23:17.01 | bannedit | MrSarge, you forget the ';' |
| 23:17.01 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... when you do the > use mysql; |
| 23:17.02 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i started it again, and typed use mysql; |
| 23:17.03 | bannedit | ? |
| 23:17.12 | Caelum | MickMcMack: there are tons of XF86Config-4 for nvidia cards on google, stuff like http://www.dotfiles.com/files/13/324_XF86Config-4 |
| 23:17.15 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done :) |
| 23:17.30 | f3nix | could anybody help me with this? |
| 23:17.37 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok |
| 23:17.39 | scx | Hello, quiz: Someone you had use Kopete to IRC chat ? |
| 23:17.40 | norskfjord | hmm |
| 23:17.46 | norskfjord | I have found a bug |
| 23:17.50 | MickMcMack | Caelum, thanks. |
| 23:17.50 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then do > delete from user where user='stern'; |
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| 23:18.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done |
| 23:18.09 | norskfjord | I think it might be Xorg, becuase it only happed after I upgraded |
| 23:18.11 | OnePatch | MrSarge : does that one work? yay or nay? |
| 23:18.16 | scx | pleasedon't tell me such as "use irssi" |
| 23:18.22 | norskfjord | when I run applications now, they wont run |
| 23:18.23 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes it said ok |
| 23:18.28 | norskfjord | from the blackbox menu |
| 23:18.29 | meff | OnePatch: revoke all privileges, grant option from <user>; drop user <user>; |
| 23:18.34 | MrSarge | OnePatch: delete from user where user='stern'; |
| 23:18.35 | MrSarge | Query OK, 1 row affected (0.04 sec) |
| 23:18.40 | Daffy | lo |
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| 23:18.59 | Daffy | can someone tell me what is khelper? |
| 23:19.02 | OnePatch | MrSarge : now do the > grant all privileges on *.* to 'stern'@'localhost.localdomain' identified by 'newpassword'; |
| 23:19.16 | MickMcMack | I can't even READ the crap on the net. |
| 23:19.31 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok done |
| 23:19.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and it worked ok? |
| 23:19.45 | MickMcMack | Meh, brb. |
| 23:19.48 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I mean, no error? |
| 23:19.55 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| 23:19.56 | OnePatch | MrSarge : if so, try the site again... |
| 23:19.56 | scx | Dafty: The help from kde sdesktop system |
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| 23:20.19 | OnePatch | MrSarge : the horrible terrible thing is that we still have to load in your old databases... :) |
| 23:20.20 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I reloaded, and it still says; Access denied for user: 'etern@localhost.localdomain' (Using password: YES) |
| 23:20.36 | OnePatch | MrSarge : is that 'etern'? |
| 23:20.42 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I'm a goober... |
| 23:20.46 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes etern |
| 23:20.50 | OnePatch | MrSarge : you see my glitch yet? |
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| 23:20.57 | MrSarge | OnePatch: a goober? :) thats a nice word ;) |
| 23:21.06 | MrSarge | YES i see it |
| 23:21.07 | servus | He said stern earlier. |
| 23:21.10 | MrSarge | you said stern |
| 23:21.16 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I did |
| 23:21.19 | MrSarge | i didnt see it eaitrher |
| 23:21.31 | OnePatch | MrSarge : so, that's my bad, go back and change stern to etern... |
| 23:21.34 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok whats our next step? :) |
| 23:21.35 | thingfish | hehe goober. doesn't that mean "peanut"? |
| 23:21.40 | OnePatch | MrSarge : see what new and exciting errors we get... |
| 23:21.46 | OnePatch | MrSarge : from the 'mysql -u root' |
| 23:21.47 | MrSarge | OnePatch: do I quit and restart? |
| 23:21.59 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do > drop user stern |
| 23:22.00 | Daffy | scx> how could it be installed... i haven't eben installed any graphic server |
| 23:22.12 | MrSarge | OnePatch: drop user stern done |
| 23:22.27 | OnePatch | MrSarge : then do > grant all privileges on *.* to 'etern'@'localhost.localdomain' identified by 'newpassword' |
| 23:22.35 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and then > ; |
| 23:22.45 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and try the site again... |
| 23:22.53 | scx | Dafty: if you do not install kde, You can't use khelp, to install it: |
| 23:23.05 | FliesLikeABrick | anyone ever solved the issue of hanging on resume from hibernate/sleep when using the fglrx drivers for ati? |
| 23:23.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said, ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the rightsyntax to use near 'user stern |
| 23:23.08 | MrSarge | grant all privileges on *.* to 'etern'@'localhost.lo |
| 23:23.13 | scx | Drafty: as root, do: apt-get install kde |
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| 23:23.26 | OnePatch | MrSarge : I forgot a semi-colon |
| 23:23.37 | OnePatch | MrSarge : so... > drop user stern; |
| 23:23.46 | servus | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES *.* TO ON '%'@'%'; GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO '%'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'newpassword'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| 23:23.48 | servus | Awrwrwr. |
| 23:24.03 | OnePatch | servus : but that wouldn't be secure... |
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| 23:24.06 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the rightsyntax to use near 'user stern' at line 1 |
| 23:24.08 | OnePatch | *chuckles evilly* |
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| 23:24.24 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, so we do it my way |
| 23:24.29 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:24.43 | MrSarge | OnePatch: drop user stern; gave errors |
| 23:24.44 | Daffy | scx> do you really think a process with an PID of 4, on a system without any xserver, can be a kde thing? |
| 23:25.08 | OnePatch | MrSarge : use mysql; delete from user where user='stern'; grant all privileges on *.* to 'etern'@'localhost.localdomain' identified by 'newpassword'; |
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| 23:25.30 | Daffy | scx> i don't wan't to install kde, i just want to know what is that khelper, with PID 4, running on my box |
| 23:25.43 | servus | Kernel helper |
| 23:26.03 | scx | exact |
| 23:26.03 | Daffy | servus> thanks, and what is it used for? |
| 23:26.25 | meff | i've never heard of a khelper kernel daemon.. |
| 23:26.25 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok, i wrote all those commands |
| 23:26.34 | scx | I would just leave it alone |
| 23:26.47 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and it complained? or no? |
| 23:26.53 | MrSarge | no complains |
| 23:27.00 | MrSarge | OnePatch: next? :) |
| 23:27.04 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and the site? she complains the same way or a new way? |
| 23:27.05 | scx | pid 4 is very basic, and may be dangerous to killit |
| 23:27.07 | servus | Daffy: Dunno. Kernel mojo :) |
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| 23:27.30 | Daffy | scx> i only have 15 Mo of ram on that box... so i'd like to save some, cause i have some crash, even with a swap of 256 Mo... |
| 23:27.31 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok, old error is gone, and with a new one: Unknown database 'etern_db' |
| 23:27.49 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... so... you have all the etern_db files handy? |
| 23:27.53 | meff | doing an rgrep in the kernel docs, shows nothing matching 'khelper' |
| 23:27.53 | scx | 15 MB of ram ? |
| 23:27.57 | servus | However, since it appears as [khelper] with the []... |
| 23:28.01 | scx | is that a cellphone ? |
| 23:28.06 | servus | Looks like a kernel part |
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| 23:28.11 | Daffy | scx> no... an old dell |
| 23:28.19 | scx | :) |
| 23:28.19 | OnePatch | servus: do you remember what all you have to do if you don't have a dump available? |
| 23:28.41 | MrSarge | OnePatch: yes |
| 23:28.41 | norskfjord | hey I installed the 2.6.8-686 kernel |
| 23:28.47 | f3nix | it starts to boot but veeeeery slow |
| 23:28.53 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, what are the file names, and where do they live? |
| 23:28.57 | norskfjord | so do I have to do something to aptitude now because it's 686 not 386? |
| 23:29.12 | scx | Daffy: on my toughts khelper is kde stuff, but kde stuff does not run in pid4 |
| 23:29.12 | norskfjord | Linux 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 23:29.25 | MrSarge | OnePatch: all in the phpadmin folder |
| 23:29.26 | servus | khelper creates user-mode applications. |
| 23:29.39 | Daffy | scx> that's what i think too... |
| 23:29.42 | OnePatch | MrSarge : filenames will help identify what we have to do... |
| 23:29.43 | servus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.53 | scx | anything with pid 4 has to be really basic and necesary |
| 23:29.55 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do they end in '.sql' or 'MYD' or what? |
| 23:30.03 | MrSarge | OnePatch: there are dozens of files in that folder |
| 23:30.11 | scx | the "k" tellsme it may be a kernel stuff |
| 23:30.26 | OnePatch | MrSarge : phpadmin... msg them to me |
| 23:30.32 | MrSarge | OnePatch: most of them end in .php |
| 23:30.37 | scx | what man -f khelper told you ? |
| 23:30.51 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:31.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : just do an ls -al from the phpadmin folder and paste me the contents in a msg windows |
| 23:31.44 | scx | try: cd /etc/init.d then ls and see if there's a khelper service |
| 23:31.52 | OnePatch | s/windows/window/ |
| 23:32.59 | norskfjord | ? |
| 23:33.18 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I pasted all files in phpadmin to you |
| 23:33.20 | MrSarge | OnePatch: did you get it? |
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| 23:33.31 | bop1 | hi where do i tell qpop where to look for emails? |
| 23:33.53 | OnePatch | no, cause I'm not a registered user... |
| 23:33.55 | OnePatch | arghs... |
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| 23:35.45 | OnePatch | never a dull moment |
| 23:35.48 | OnePatch | they're coming thru now |
| 23:36.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: you get it now? |
| 23:36.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: you should have gotten it now |
| 23:36.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: go to #floods |
| 23:36.08 | cees | I have xmms running (with an aria, Callas :-). But when I receive a sound message oof gaim, the music is hakted |
| 23:36.08 | MrSarge | OnePatch: go to #flood |
| 23:36.11 | MrSarge | OnePatch: so you got my paste now? |
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| 23:36.30 | OnePatch | MrSarge : yeah, I got it now |
| 23:36.37 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:36.37 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do you want the good news or the bad news? |
| 23:36.45 | MrSarge | OnePatch: the good news |
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| 23:37.07 | OnePatch | MrSarge : we can use the files provided, I believe, to create a new database so that the app will at least work... |
| 23:37.23 | MrSarge | OnePatch: thats good news :) |
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| 23:37.25 | jazzmanss | I just installed 3.1 64 bit on hdb1 (hd1) grub detected my existing install of 3.1 on hd0 (hda1) I allowed grub to overwrite the mbr, now on boot up I get error 15. what do I need to fix to get my system to boot again? |
| 23:37.30 | MrSarge | OnePatch: now the bad :P |
| 23:37.31 | OnePatch | MrSarge : the bad news is that I don't see anything in here that looks like a data dump or a data file for mysql |
| 23:37.46 | Xgates | anyone using a A7N8X Deluxe PCB revision 1.01? |
| 23:37.48 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ah no! I found that databae dump |
| 23:37.50 | OnePatch | MrSarge : so... the old data is either in a different location, or it just flat out doesn't exist |
| 23:37.55 | MrSarge | OnePatch: its one file |
| 23:37.56 | norskfjord | Hey every time I don't an apt-get install and it downloads the program and installs, does the installation file stay on my computer or get deleted? |
| 23:37.58 | cees | Another question: Why my Ibook sleep so quickly? How can I set to more delay to speep. i can't leave writing!! |
| 23:38.05 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... does it end in .sql? |
| 23:38.05 | norskfjord | if not, how can I delete? |
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| 23:38.31 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i found the dabase dmp file, one filled 538k in size |
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| 23:38.37 | OnePatch | MrSarge : or better yet, when you type 'file filename' what does it return? |
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| 23:38.47 | cees | Powerprefs don't work fine!!! |
| 23:38.56 | beoba | powerpuff |
| 23:38.57 | f3nix | 10 minutes takes it to write initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 23:39.13 | MrSarge | OnePatch: no the dump of my databse end in txt, but thats how I saved it! shall I change name? |
| 23:39.29 | OnePatch | MrSarge : nope |
| 23:40.00 | OnePatch | MrSarge : just do a 'mysql -u etern -p etern_db < nameoffilehere' |
| 23:40.19 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it saus, Database Dump.txt: Non-ISO extended-ASCII English text, with very long lines, with CRLF line terminators |
| 23:40.19 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and type in the pass when prompted for it |
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| 23:40.28 | OnePatch | MrSarge : perfecto |
| 23:40.40 | OnePatch | MrSarge : now the other command? |
| 23:40.59 | OnePatch | MrSarge : er... wait |
| 23:41.17 | OnePatch | MrSarge : first try 'mysql -u etern -p < Database\ Dump.txt' |
| 23:41.59 | MrSarge | OnePatch: whats my first step? |
| 23:42.10 | OnePatch | MrSarge : good question |
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| 23:42.22 | OnePatch | MrSarge : on the pm... that is... I don't know, but it's hardly relevant |
| 23:42.30 | OnePatch | MrSarge : for this stage in the game |
| 23:42.31 | Xgates | anyone using a A7N8X Deluxe PCB revision 1.01? |
| 23:42.49 | OnePatch | MrSarge : try the 'mysql -u etern -p < Database\ Dump.txt' |
| 23:42.55 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:43.12 | MrSarge | OnePatch: its now asking me to enter password |
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| 23:43.33 | OnePatch | MrSarge : use the latest and greatest one that you actually used with the grant command |
| 23:43.42 | MrSarge | ok |
| 23:43.59 | MrSarge | OnePatch: it said ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'etern@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 23:44.17 | norskfjord | Hey every time I don't an apt-get install and it downloads the program and installs, does the installation file stay on my computer or get deleted? |
| 23:44.33 | OnePatch | MrSarge: change it up then... it's not identifying itself the same way, so you're going to have to cheat a little |
| 23:44.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : 'mysql -u root < Databasse |
| 23:44.48 | OnePatch | MrSarge : er... scratch that |
| 23:45.00 | MrSarge | ok scratched :P |
| 23:45.01 | OnePatch | MrSarge : 'mysql -u root < Database\ Dump.txt' |
| 23:45.09 | OnePatch | MrSarge : try that one |
| 23:45.46 | MrSarge | OnePatch: didnt work, error is pasted to you |
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| 23:46.20 | OnePatch | MrSarge: right... well then... |
| 23:46.23 | Knorrie | Is is safe to remove all libraries deborphan reports on a server? |
| 23:46.27 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do 'mysql -u root' |
| 23:46.33 | OnePatch | MrSarge : and then from the > do |
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| 23:46.44 | ben_der | yeah finally got debian installed... now i need to make it go online... ? connection configuration ? |
| 23:46.45 | OnePatch | MrSarge : > create database etern_db; |
| 23:46.56 | OnePatch | MrSarge : > quit |
| 23:47.02 | MrSarge | ok |
| 23:47.05 | MrSarge | hang 1 |
| 23:47.13 | OnePatch | MrSarge : $ mysql -u root < Database\ Dump.txt |
| 23:47.19 | MrSarge | OnePatch: done |
| 23:47.23 | OnePatch | MrSarge : oops |
| 23:47.30 | OnePatch | MrSarge : scratch the last one |
| 23:47.32 | MrSarge | now? |
| 23:47.34 | OnePatch | MrSarge : it should be |
| 23:47.38 | MrSarge | ok scratched |
| 23:47.50 | OnePatch | MrSarge : $ mysql -u root etern_db < Database\ Dump.txt |
| 23:48.24 | OnePatch | MrSarge : let's see if that's not the ticket |
| 23:48.33 | MrSarge | OnePatch: i pasted error to you |
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| 23:49.18 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... can you send me the file? and/or give me access? it seems to me that there is some glitch with the text file... like maybe he wrote you a letter at the beginning of it or somesuch... |
| 23:49.45 | MrSarge | OnePatch: the first line is Database etern_db |
| 23:50.06 | MrSarge | OnePatch: and then it says |
| 23:50.08 | MrSarge | CREATE TABLE articles ( |
| 23:50.08 | MrSarge | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.13 | MrSarge | etc etc |
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| 23:50.59 | MrSarge | OnePatch: should I remove Database etern_db as first line? |
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| 23:51.06 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, well, it's probably a valid dump... we're just not accounting for special characters somehow |
| 23:51.13 | OnePatch | MrSarge : oh, doh |
| 23:51.23 | OnePatch | MrSarge : no, don't remove it... |
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| 23:51.28 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:51.33 | OnePatch | MrSarge : do it this way, one last try |
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| 23:51.40 | Daffy | can someone explain what is this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/qvw5eY61.html. Recently my router/firewall started to crash strangely (i was able to run it for more than 40 days before, no i restart it at least one time per day...), and each time i have a lot of these in syslog |
| 23:51.53 | OnePatch | MrSarge : debian:/var/www# mysql -u root < Database\ Dump.txt |
| 23:52.21 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I pasted the first 20 lines to you |
| 23:52.23 | MrSarge | OnePatch: that gave same error |
| 23:52.25 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok, wait, stop... stop... |
| 23:52.29 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:52.29 | OnePatch | MrSarge : right, and it would |
| 23:52.41 | OnePatch | MrSarge : we're going to need to install phpmyadmin to get this sucker back in there |
| 23:52.45 | elfredo | Daffy whats your sshd version? |
| 23:52.50 | OnePatch | MrSarge : apt-get install phpmyadmin |
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| 23:52.53 | servus | Daffy: I'd test your RAM out. Get the memtest86 program and run it |
| 23:53.00 | mirak | hi |
| 23:53.06 | MrSarge | OnePatch: I already have phpmyadmin installed |
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| 23:53.27 | Ischtivan | ok, super newbie question here, i hope you can help me |
| 23:53.29 | Daffy | servus> yes i thought about it, i'm actually installing it right now |
| 23:53.37 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok |
| 23:53.41 | MrSarge | installing apt-get install phpmyadmin |
| 23:53.45 | Ischtivan | ive edit my psybnc.conf, and now i want to exit and save |
| 23:53.49 | mirak | I am trying to use sqwebmail for courier, however I don't even know how to acces the webmail, wich port it is etcetera, I find really no info in /usr/share/doc/ |
| 23:53.55 | Ischtivan | shift + x ? |
| 23:54.14 | chump | Hi I need libqt3-dev but get the apt-get error "Depends: libfreetype6-dev but it is not going to be installed" can someone give me a hand? |
| 23:54.15 | MrSarge | OnePatch: im downloading and installing phpmyadmin now. will let you know when its done |
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| 23:55.18 | Daffy | elfredo> how can i see that? dpkg -l is very very slow. I'm running stable |
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| 23:55.27 | Howitzer | i wanted to download Debian, but if you don't want to do an internet install, do you HAVE to download the full 18 cd's? |
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| 23:55.40 | l3m | no |
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| 23:55.49 | zinx | Howitzer: No |
| 23:55.58 | josh2224 | Hey. I'm using sarge with kde (no gnome installed). I'm using gaim, but damn the fonts are too small.. i've tryed gtk-theme-switch and it didn't help.. any ideas? |
| 23:55.59 | OnePatch | MrSarge : ok... the more I look at this, the more I wonder if I'm screwing it up somehow... like... I should be using mysqldump to get it back in there or something... I'm checking that now... |
| 23:56.13 | zinx | Howitzer: Not unless you want every single source and binary package in Debian (you don't!) |
| 23:56.18 | l3m | josh2224: use kopete :) |
| 23:56.34 | eduardo | Hi folks. I am reading the install manual now, and it says nothing about X. as I right to assume that only the most basic things get installed from CD, everything else I'll hyave to manually do via apt-get ? |
| 23:56.50 | MrSarge | OnePatch: ok thanks |
| 23:56.53 | josh2224 | l3m: I've got there the max rate limit exceeded... with icq.. :-/ |
| 23:57.08 | l3m | Howitzer: actually, just download the first cd, and if you need more packages, you can get them using apt-get |
| 23:57.20 | ben_der | hi how can i connect to internet with debian... i have a adsl router |
| 23:57.25 | servus | Wow I just ran that memtest86 program out of curiousity and it nearly crashed my machine :p |
| 23:57.27 | Howitzer | so i can download the first cd and have all the software needed?(as if i did a minimal internet-based install) |
| 23:57.35 | josh2224 | Howitzer: yes. |
| 23:57.36 | l3m | josh2224: hmm i'm using kopete for icq and it works just finel... |
| 23:57.39 | servus | I actually meant the memtest86 that is on many Linux installation CDs, and runs outside of an OS. |
| 23:57.52 | Howitzer | lol |
| 23:58.05 | Howitzer | those showed me 3071 errors |
| 23:58.07 | josh2224 | l3m: I've tried several times, purging and reinstalling, and it gives the same error... |
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| 23:58.18 | Howitzer | funny because linux NEVER complains |
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| 23:58.28 | Howitzer | while XP gives bsod's a lot |
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| 23:58.47 | MrSarge | OnePatch: one thing is that everything loads now, as before it didnt :) so we have made great progress. Only thing missing now is the database |
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| 23:58.58 | ixion | my procmail filters, they create a file in the root of my home directory... how can I make it create the file in the Mail subdirectory? |
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| 23:59.11 | ixion | by file I mean the file where the emails are, not sure what the name is |
| 23:59.39 | Daffy | elfredo> apt-cache show ssh tells me Version: 1:3.8.1p1-8.sarge.4 |
