| 00:00.05 | dli | Ugly, that means something in acl, check it |
| 00:00.10 | shad0wcat | plain and simple really |
| 00:00.11 | Ugly | k |
| 00:00.13 | antgel | shad0wcat: indeed |
| 00:00.20 | ranus99 | antgel: because i never had such problems with lilo like i do have at the moment with grub |
| 00:00.33 | shad0wcat | I still don't see why you want to fix an os that's fundamentally flawed |
| 00:00.39 | shad0wcat | now if this was NT, I'd actually help you |
| 00:00.45 | antgel | ranus99: ah, so you hadn't had the error before with grub. hold on, i thought you said that grub was broken. |
| 00:00.47 | ranus99 | shad0wcat: you'r an idiot, i allready said the i didn't fucked up the mbr |
| 00:00.59 | shad0wcat | ranus99: you're running WinME |
| 00:01.08 | dli | ranus99, enough is enough |
| 00:01.08 | shad0wcat | that makes you a moron in my and most people's eyes in here |
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| 00:01.19 | mfrisch | ranus99 I use lilo |
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| 00:01.30 | shad0wcat | !winme |
| 00:01.31 | dpkg | winme is probably the "Why ME?!", or the M$ Windows Millenium Edition. ircdevil havent seen the "blue screen" yet, but the windows explorer is very unstable!, or discribed at http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/pinnacle99/index.htm, or halt! blue screen is still there :), or see WinRG |
| 00:01.32 | antgel | ranus99: so you think that because one person has a problem, that is a good reason to make a policy choice for a distro? |
| 00:01.40 | ranus99 | shad0wcat: and i allready searched in google long time ago. There was no solution, that's why i am here now |
| 00:01.45 | faif | can we please stop talking about windows? we are in a debian channel... |
| 00:01.56 | shad0wcat | faif: if we can get rid of WinME boy |
| 00:02.26 | dabaR | or the one that is talking to him... |
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| 00:02.41 | en1gma | ok that didnt take very long because "/boot" looks a bit different than what i am used to. ok how can i get the debian kernel i want to use with windows and then put it on hda3 so i can then read it within debian |
| 00:02.50 | ranus99 | shad0wcat: you bought WinXP, in my opinion you're the moron. BTW WinME is working fine for me, you only need to know how to use it. It's a little selective by its users. |
| 00:03.04 | shad0wcat | heh |
| 00:03.06 | antgel | en1gma: please go and read the documentation that you were kindly pointed to |
| 00:03.08 | dabaR | ok ranus99 we understand, ok? |
| 00:03.08 | shad0wcat | actually I didn't buy it |
| 00:03.08 | en1gma | :P |
| 00:03.10 | dondelelcaro | who cares? take the windows discussion elsewhere. |
| 00:03.16 | shad0wcat | but yeah |
| 00:03.20 | dli | en1gma, you want a kernel to be used WITH windows |
| 00:03.27 | ranus99 | antgel: i only suggest to use the more stable bootmanager |
| 00:03.35 | en1gma | i cant use linux on net till i get my kernel upgraded |
| 00:03.37 | en1gma | sheesh |
| 00:03.43 | dabaR | ranus99: I do not think you know enough to be saying that. |
| 00:03.47 | en1gma | OMG |
| 00:03.51 | shad0wcat | dabaR: he doesn't |
| 00:03.57 | shad0wcat | but we already established that a long time ago |
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| 00:04.10 | kamaraju | I just discovered that you can read man pages using konqueror by doing man:pagename. What do you guys use to read man pages? other than the good old 'man pagename' |
| 00:04.10 | shad0wcat | en1gma: where is your kernel now? |
| 00:04.11 | dli | shad0wcat, can I buy an IBM thinkpad without windows? |
| 00:04.14 | en1gma | this isnt gonna work cause i have to edit a file that is located /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/serial/ipaq.h |
| 00:04.23 | en1gma | i have to edit that file before i make |
| 00:04.25 | shad0wcat | dli: doubtful |
| 00:04.27 | dabaR | kamaraju: :) cute question. |
| 00:04.30 | antgel | ranus99: answer my questions properly |
| 00:04.39 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: i try to solve my grub problems, this is not a windows related problem or fault |
| 00:04.45 | en1gma | so i gonna have to freehand it |
| 00:04.48 | scruffy | Is it possible to place the status line at the top of my term in screen rather than the bottom. Google seems to be useless using the terms screen, top, hardstatus and/or message. |
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| 00:05.09 | shad0wcat | scruffy: what window manager? |
| 00:05.23 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: so boot off of a boot disk, and rerun grub to install grub into the mbr; once you've got grub itself running, fix your menu.list |
| 00:05.26 | dondelelcaro | s/list/lst/ |
| 00:05.37 | en1gma | is there a guide that tells how to build a kernel "like from kernel.org" and then what to do with grub |
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| 00:05.43 | scruffy | shad0wcat: openbox, but I'm talking about the program 'screen' |
| 00:05.51 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: i allready rerun grub, as i said THIS does not solve it! |
| 00:05.54 | en1gma | btw my usb mouse dont work in cli |
| 00:05.56 | shad0wcat | scruffy: nfc then |
| 00:05.59 | antgel | en1gma: i fucking told you to read the debian reference twice |
| 00:05.59 | dabaR | en1gma: did you read the reference or an of the messages dpkg sent you? |
| 00:06.00 | dli | shad0wcat, I will go for thinkpad, if I don't have to pay MS |
| 00:06.08 | shad0wcat | dabaR: doubtful |
| 00:06.20 | dabaR | shad0wcat: did you see your name in the message? |
| 00:06.21 | shad0wcat | I gave him the link as well |
| 00:06.32 | dabaR | :P |
| 00:06.34 | shad0wcat | ages ago |
| 00:06.35 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: so what is the issue? you're not getting the bootloader to run at all? or what? |
| 00:06.39 | scruffy | shad0wcat: I gather you were thinking maybe in a titlebar? |
| 00:06.40 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: BTW i also tried to fix it with fdisk /mbr (a good solution with lilo problems) but this didn't work. after that i tryed to exchance grub with lilo |
| 00:06.42 | en1gma | cant u tell i restarted cause i was gonna try and make a kernel the way i usually do but /boot looked different to me so i came back ehre |
| 00:06.47 | faif | ranus99: boot your GNU/Linux distro, and use the command grub-install [device] in example `grub-install /dev/fd0' to install it in a floppy disk |
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| 00:07.13 | TriKster-Abacus | grub errors: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-122656-highlight-common+grub.html |
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| 00:07.19 | TriKster-Abacus | sorry, from Gentoo's site |
| 00:07.24 | en1gma | has anyone here used slack before (cause i got a couple lilo questions) |
| 00:07.35 | shad0wcat | en1gma: we don't cover slack |
| 00:07.39 | shad0wcat | we cover #debian |
| 00:07.40 | en1gma | i said LILO |
| 00:07.41 | dabaR | en1gma: if you can see the message dpkg sent you go read it. |
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| 00:07.44 | dondelelcaro | en1gma: ask in ##slackware |
| 00:07.50 | en1gma | (cause i got a couple lilo questions) |
| 00:07.50 | en1gma | <shad0wcat> en1gma: we don't cover slack |
| 00:07.52 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: at the momenent LILO loads, then i select windows in the lilo menu, then i get this message: "Loading Windows GRUB Loading stage 2 Read Error" So you see Grub is still there, but it mustn't! |
| 00:07.55 | en1gma | (cause i got a couple lilo questions) |
| 00:07.55 | en1gma | <shad0wcat> en1gma: we don't cover slack |
| 00:07.59 | en1gma | grrrr |
| 00:08.04 | Gnea | hey look |
| 00:08.06 | Gnea | a spammer! |
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| 00:08.08 | en1gma | (cause i got a couple lilo questions) |
| 00:08.09 | ranus99 | faif: i allready did -> does NOT work |
| 00:08.11 | dabaR | en1gma: ignore him why are you responding to him? |
| 00:08.16 | Gnea | !tell en1gma about rules |
| 00:08.20 | Gnea | !tell en1gma about ask |
| 00:08.27 | en1gma | i asked about lilo i already know slack |
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| 00:08.38 | shad0wcat | sigh |
| 00:08.42 | shad0wcat | see #lilo then |
| 00:08.47 | en1gma | debian does come with lilo right |
| 00:08.51 | Gnea | en1gma: stop licking flesh and start eating meat |
| 00:08.51 | antgel | en1gma: what does slack have to do with lilo? |
| 00:08.53 | shad0wcat | not by default |
| 00:08.55 | ke6isf | en1gma: Is this LILO within Debian? |
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| 00:09.03 | cheal | en1gma: please, if you have no question regarding Debian, stop it here |
| 00:09.05 | antgel | hold on. i know what the problem is here... |
| 00:09.08 | antgel | !sunday |
| 00:09.09 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 00:09.13 | ke6isf | !always sunday |
| 00:09.14 | dpkg | Just as it's always September, somewhere, out on the internet, it's always Sunday here in #debian. |
| 00:09.15 | Gnea | but but |
| 00:09.17 | Gnea | Sat Oct 22 17:09:16 MST 2005 |
| 00:09.18 | dabaR | its saturday |
| 00:09.21 | en1gma | cause if someone here has used slack before then they could tell me if i set lilo up the same way i do with debian |
| 00:09.34 | shad0wcat | wtf? |
| 00:09.35 | ke6isf | en1gma: Is this LILO within Debian? |
| 00:09.38 | meff | rofl |
| 00:09.39 | dabaR | en1gma: be specific, ask a specific question. |
| 00:09.40 | en1gma | yes |
| 00:09.41 | shad0wcat | bah I give up |
| 00:09.43 | bluefox83 | if i download a kernel-image, how do i find out what compiler was used to compile it? |
| 00:09.45 | antgel | on that note, goodnight all and forgive me if i don't reapear until monday ;) |
| 00:09.52 | Gnea | en1gma: lilo is lilo, it's the same EVERYWHERE, you just edit a config file and GO. that's it, no if's and's or but's. get it? got it? good, now beat it. |
| 00:09.53 | dondelelcaro | en1gma: then install lilo, and configure it and run it. |
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| 00:10.08 | cheal | bluefox83: $ cat /proc/version |
| 00:10.08 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: do you have now a solution for me? |
| 00:10.09 | en1gma | well lilo isnt usually in /boot like grub is |
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| 00:10.10 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: sounds like you have grub on the mbr and lilo on the boot device. |
| 00:10.17 | dabaR | I think he wants to know how to install it. |
| 00:10.17 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: err, vice versa. |
| 00:10.18 | en1gma | is lilo gonna be in /boot |
| 00:10.22 | bluefox83 | cheal, without booting into it? |
| 00:10.27 | Gnea | how is lilo in /boot |
| 00:10.29 | Gnea | explain this now. |
| 00:10.33 | en1gma | how is /grub in boot |
| 00:10.38 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: but fdisk /mbr should have allread wiped out GRUB from the mbr |
| 00:10.40 | Gnea | there is no /grub |
| 00:10.42 | Gnea | there is only /boot |
| 00:10.43 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: but fdisk /mbr should have allready wiped out GRUB from the mbr |
| 00:10.46 | shad0wcat | how can a bootloader be in &boot |
| 00:10.47 | en1gma | grrr grub in /boot |
| 00:10.47 | Gnea | and there is /boot/grub |
| 00:10.49 | |XO4| | is there a quick way to fix where a package is installed? |
| 00:10.49 | Gnea | but no /grub |
| 00:10.51 | shad0wcat | err /boot |
| 00:10.58 | en1gma | lol |
| 00:11.00 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: no, that just writes out the dos mbr, it doesn't overwrite the entire boot record. |
| 00:11.02 | Gnea | idiot. |
| 00:11.11 | Gnea | en1gma: last leg... |
| 00:11.11 | dondelelcaro | |XO4|: in what way? |
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| 00:11.22 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: ok, so i have lilo AND grub in the mbr? |
| 00:11.23 | cheal | bluefox83: zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-image-foo/buildinfo.gz |
| 00:11.28 | dli | |XO4|, if you are looking for a file, try "apt-file" |
| 00:11.28 | en1gma | yes i know will there be a "/boot/lilo" like there is a "/boot/grub" when i install lilo correctly on debian |
| 00:11.37 | dabaR | en1gma: are you trying to ask how to get a /boot/lilo folder type of thing? |
| 00:11.42 | Gnea | en1gma: no. |
| 00:11.43 | ke6isf | en1gma: Why not just use grub? |
| 00:11.45 | en1gma | or will it be /etc/lilo.conf and /sbin/lilo |
| 00:11.46 | dondelelcaro | en1gma: no, there isn't. There's a boot sector there, but that's it. |
| 00:11.48 | Gnea | en1gma: why? |
| 00:11.54 | shad0wcat | sigh |
| 00:11.58 | shad0wcat | I find this hilarious |
| 00:11.58 | Gnea | en1gma: here's an idea: apt-get install lilo AND FIND OUT |
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| 00:12.01 | dabaR | en1gma: you will likely need to install lilo to get it onto your system. |
| 00:12.06 | shad0wcat | Gnea: that'd be too easy |
| 00:12.15 | dabaR | shad0wcat: stop pressing enter, please. |
| 00:12.15 | shad0wcat | he needs to drive half the channel crazy first |
| 00:12.18 | toto_ | anyone know what driver used by netgear me111 usb adaptor? |
| 00:12.21 | ke6isf | Gnea: He's a slack user. "Easy" doesn't exist. =^^ |
| 00:12.22 | xwolf | shad0wcat: me too, i'm having a ball :) |
| 00:12.27 | en1gma | ok brb |
| 00:12.29 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: no, you probably have lilo on the mbr, and grub on hda1 or similar. |
| 00:12.31 | en1gma | thanks i think |
| 00:12.32 | en1gma | :P |
| 00:12.37 | Gnea | ke6isf: but i used to be a slack user, and i figured it out on my own |
| 00:12.40 | dabaR | ok, read the reference as well. |
| 00:12.44 | |XO4| | dli i was looking for a something like "--prefix=/install/here" |
| 00:12.47 | dabaR | dpkg told you about it, eno-away |
| 00:12.47 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: you'll get that sort of thing if you device (hd0,0) or similar. |
| 00:12.54 | dabaR | hah |
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| 00:13.02 | Gnea | all i heard was "use apt-get" so i RTFM and figured most of it out |
| 00:13.03 | dabaR | I like his user name |
| 00:13.05 | Gnea | :) |
| 00:13.10 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: That's what i allready were saying, but shad0wcat is calling me an idiot, sounds like he has no glue |
| 00:13.15 | dondelelcaro | |XO4|: it's instdir, but you're probably not going to really want to do. |
| 00:13.19 | ke6isf | Gnea: I know, it's not rocket science, but 'tar -zxvf foo; cd foo; configure; make; make install' isn't *quite* as easy as 'apt-get install foo'. |
| 00:13.22 | dli | |XO4|, or you might "dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/foo.deb" |
| 00:13.30 | dabaR | en1gma [i=eatshit@27.sub-70-196-84.myvzw.com]<---- hahah |
| 00:13.31 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: Ok, how do i fix the problem now? |
| 00:13.43 | Gnea | ranus99: the idiot train has left the building. |
| 00:14.00 | ke6isf | dabaR: Ah, OK, so he's l33t. |
| 00:14.03 | shad0wcat | ke6isf: emerge foo |
| 00:14.17 | dabaR | kinda like i=eatshit... |
| 00:14.21 | Gnea | ke6isf: actually, for me, the whole ./configure thing was easier then |
| 00:14.22 | dabaR | so, I guess that answers that... |
| 00:14.25 | bluefox83 | why is kernel-image-2.6.11the latest kernel image in apt? kernel.org has 2.6.14 |
| 00:14.37 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: it's not |
| 00:14.39 | ke6isf | Gnea: Ah, indeed. Then again, I still use it for sylpheed. =/ |
| 00:14.43 | dabaR | haha, but I think shad0wcat should have one like that too. |
| 00:14.54 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: you could always build your own kernel if you want |
| 00:14.56 | bluefox83 | then i need to apt-get upate >.> |
| 00:14.59 | shad0wcat | !tell bluefox83 about kernel-image |
| 00:15.04 | shad0wcat | err |
| 00:15.06 | Gnea | bluefox83: cuz new kernels still have bugs that need to pass the debian security and stability phase |
| 00:15.06 | dondelelcaro | !info linux-image-2.6.13-1-386 |
| 00:15.08 | shad0wcat | !tell bluefox83 about kernel-package |
| 00:15.21 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: how can i completly fix my mbr? |
| 00:15.25 | shad0wcat | if you really want to keep up with kernel.org |
| 00:15.39 | shad0wcat | you have to compile your own kernels |
| 00:15.42 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: if lilo is going, your mbr probably is ok, you may need to fix your lilo configuration though. |
| 00:15.57 | shad0wcat | the debian repositories will always lag behind the upstream sources |
| 00:16.06 | shad0wcat | plus debian stock kernels are bloated |
| 00:16.07 | shad0wcat | :P |
| 00:16.07 | bluefox83 | ok..i have a strange question.. |
| 00:16.09 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: some judiciuos use of dd may also enable you to zero out whatever is going on with grub loading when it shouldn't |
| 00:16.13 | sussudio | stupid doctors |
| 00:16.32 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: the lilo configuration is perfect. Lilo starts windows, but there is grub in the way then i get an error, that is my problem |
| 00:16.47 | dli | dondelelcaro, my favorite "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1" |
| 00:16.47 | bluefox83 | i have a gig of ram and when i am using apt-get update and playing music at the same time on xmms, the music gets jittery, how can i fix the kittery music? |
| 00:17.00 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: your hds are running in pio mode |
| 00:17.01 | bluefox83 | *jittery |
| 00:17.03 | shad0wcat | fix your kernel |
| 00:17.10 | bluefox83 | pio? |
| 00:17.11 | shad0wcat | either that or your bios |
| 00:17.13 | shad0wcat | or both |
| 00:17.22 | shad0wcat | yes, pio4 probably |
| 00:17.22 | bluefox83 | wtf is PIO mode? |
| 00:17.22 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: dd may work, but it is in my opinion to dangerours. i prefer an easier solution |
| 00:17.36 | dli | bluefox83, what's in "top" |
| 00:17.42 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: a hard disk transfer mode |
| 00:17.53 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: if your configuration is perfect, it shouldn't be executing the grub second stage loader instead of the kernel. |
| 00:17.54 | shad0wcat | dli: I've had the same thing happen in Windows |
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| 00:18.03 | bluefox83 | dli, plenty of stuff |
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| 00:18.14 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: check the hd transfer modes |
| 00:18.17 | oes | just a short question: When I compile cpp files using g++, the output is generated with root as owner, how can I avoid that ? |
| 00:18.18 | shad0wcat | if it lags on multitask |
| 00:18.25 | shad0wcat | it's most likely the hd transfer mode |
| 00:18.29 | dli | shad0wcat, not really, I need to wipe out mbr to get netboot, and then, FAI installation |
| 00:18.31 | bluefox83 | shad0wcat, and i do this..how? |
| 00:18.42 | dondelelcaro | oes: compile them as a user instead of root. |
| 00:18.43 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: your bios |
| 00:18.51 | dli | shad0wcat, so, anything wrong, I simply wipe out mbr, and reboot |
| 00:18.55 | bluefox83 | shad0wcat, what should i set it to? |
| 00:19.02 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: dma |
| 00:19.10 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: aptitude install hdparm |
| 00:19.16 | shad0wcat | hdparm <your hd> |
| 00:19.23 | asmodaiii | -tT |
| 00:19.31 | shad0wcat | asmodaiii: not necessary |
| 00:19.34 | asmodaiii | to check |
| 00:19.36 | shad0wcat | the basic info will do |
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| 00:19.48 | shad0wcat | he only needs to know if dma transfers are on |
| 00:19.49 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: the configuration for lilo was an old configuration for my 1 hd with win and slack on it. Debian is on my new 2 hd. So from this point of view the lilo config is perfect to load windows and slack, like it did before, but grub somehow messed arround at my windows partition. A problem i can't solve by editing the lilo config, the lilo config has no errors. |
| 00:19.53 | dli | shad0wcat, whatever the hdparm, the music should have been in memory cache :( |
| 00:19.56 | shad0wcat | it'll say 0, 16-bit, or 32-bit |
| 00:20.02 | asmodaiii | k |
| 00:20.06 | shad0wcat | dli: yes but when he multitasks |
| 00:20.13 | shad0wcat | and he's running in pio mode |
| 00:20.19 | shad0wcat | it'll overload the bus |
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| 00:20.26 | mitti | to get an NFS server all I need is nfs-kernel-server and my /etc/exports setup right? I'm having trouble getting my other machine to connect.. |
| 00:20.37 | shad0wcat | ever tried compiling a kernel in bloody pio mode? |
| 00:20.40 | shad0wcat | takes twice as long |
| 00:20.44 | dli | mitti, apt-get install portmap |
| 00:20.50 | shad0wcat | that's the kind of performance impact we're talking about |
| 00:20.52 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: i need a way to get GRUB completly out of the way, then i can use lilo for everything including booting debian |
| 00:20.55 | ejay69 | where can i find information on running samba-console by idealx on debian? |
| 00:21.03 | dli | mitti, check your /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow |
| 00:21.19 | mitti | dli, thanks! |
| 00:21.32 | bluefox83 | shad0wcat, where should i show the results? in #flood? |
| 00:21.51 | ejay69 | is there anyone here who knows about smbldap-tools? |
| 00:21.51 | nixie | mitti, also try rpcinfo -p nfsserverip |
| 00:21.55 | shad0wcat | sure |
| 00:21.59 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: it shouldn't matter, just rerun lilo with the right config, and everything should be overwritten. |
| 00:22.07 | ejay69 | failed to add entry: modifications require authentication at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate |
| 00:22.10 | mitti | dli, I have portmap instlled and up to date, and both my hosts.deny and hosts.allow files are default (empty) |
| 00:22.18 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: control shouldn't be being transfered from lilo to grub unless you've managed to screw something up instanely. |
| 00:22.25 | dondelelcaro | s/st/s/ |
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| 00:22.47 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: go fix your dma transfer settings |
| 00:22.48 | shad0wcat | in the bios |
| 00:22.49 | mitti | nixie, I do see NFS listed several times.. |
| 00:22.50 | dli | mitti: what's the result of "mount $nfs_server:/nfs/dir /mnt" |
| 00:22.51 | shad0wcat | and if that doesn't work |
| 00:22.54 | shad0wcat | you need a new kernel |
| 00:23.07 | dli | mitti, follow nixie's suggestion :) |
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| 00:23.10 | shad0wcat | <bluefox83> using_dma = 0 (off) <---- bingo |
| 00:23.10 | nixie | mitti: rpc.statd present? |
| 00:23.14 | bluefox83 | shad0wcat, is there an easier way than shutting down? |
| 00:23.21 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: oh get over it |
| 00:23.31 | shad0wcat | you can set it with hdparm |
| 00:23.39 | shad0wcat | but I usually go for the more permanent solution |
| 00:23.51 | mitti | nixie, I don't see it there. |
| 00:23.51 | bluefox83 | ok..i'll go fix it... |
| 00:23.52 | shad0wcat | hell it'll speed things up 100% |
| 00:24.07 | nixie | mitti, /etc/init.d/nfs-common should start rpc.statd on the nfs server |
| 00:24.09 | mitti | nixie, oh, I'm sorry, in /etc |
| 00:24.21 | nixie | rpcinfo -p should report status |
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| 00:24.25 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: that is the problem, i rerun lilo with the right config, but grub is still there. because as i said before grub is in the boot sector on my windows partition. Lilo tries to chainload windows and finds grub. So how i get grub off my windows boot sector? |
| 00:24.41 | shad0wcat | ranus99: dd |
| 00:24.46 | shad0wcat | off the top of my head |
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| 00:25.21 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: oh, that's what you're talking about. Use dd to zero out that section or stick the dos mbr onto that partition |
| 00:26.16 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: ok, i can i stick the dos mbr onto that partition? fdisk /mbr (the windows way) didn't work |
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| 00:26.25 | Ugly | dli: i got it, thanks soooooo much for your help |
| 00:26.27 | mitti | nixie, okay, I restarted /etc/init.d/nfs-common and checked rpcinfo again and I'm not seeing rpc.statd in there.. |
| 00:26.30 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: ok, i how can i stick the dos mbr onto that partition? fdisk /mbr (the windows way) didn't work |
| 00:26.37 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: no, you'll probably need the mbr package to stick such a thing. [and stop repeating. |
| 00:26.48 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: sry for doubleposting the "how" word was missing |
| 00:27.03 | Ugly | dli: it was http_access allow our_networks |
| 00:27.07 | ryanium`` | with windowmaker I get the error /usr/lib/WindowMaker/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display "", does anyone know the problem? |
| 00:27.10 | dli | Ugly, any idea how to get ssl-wrapped squid? |
| 00:27.27 | dli | Ugly, I mentioned 172.16 in the very beginning? |
| 00:27.34 | Ugly | dli: umm.... nope, cant say i would even begin to know how |
| 00:27.37 | nixie | mitti: on a properly working nfs server, rpcinfo should at least report: status mountd nfs portmapper nlockmgr |
| 00:27.42 | mitti | dli, nixie, dli's suggestion to mount to myself worked.. So it's not the nfs server like I thought it was that was the problem, it's the client.... |
| 00:27.53 | Ugly | dli: yeah, http_access allow our_networks was hashed out, so i wasn't sure |
| 00:27.58 | ejay69 | can someone help me on this pls ........failed to bind to server ldap://127.0.0.1/ with dn |
| 00:28.01 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: where do i find the mbr package for windows? I never did such things before |
| 00:28.11 | Gnea | !pls |
| 00:28.11 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
| 00:28.15 | shad0wcat | ranus99: with winME you don't |
| 00:28.17 | dli | Ugly, but you can save a working copy now :) |
| 00:28.20 | shad0wcat | generally speaking |
| 00:28.23 | nixie | mitti: apt-get install nfs-common portmapper on the client |
| 00:28.28 | shad0wcat | Win9x is horrible when it comes to recovery |
| 00:28.28 | Gnea | !tell ejay69 about ask |
| 00:28.28 | Ugly | dli: i certainly will do that |
| 00:28.37 | ranus99 | shad0wcat: ok, how do it with the dd way? |
| 00:28.45 | shad0wcat | if you don't know |
| 00:28.45 | ejay69 | pardon but im a newbie in debian.... is there an equivalent SE Linux in debian? if there is how can i disable it? |
| 00:28.47 | shad0wcat | don't even attempt it |
| 00:28.54 | dli | mitti, check syslog for error mesages |
| 00:29.02 | mitti | nixie, okay, thanks! I'll have to check it's /var/log/messages too see if it's giving me any errors.. |
| 00:29.04 | shad0wcat | dd will destroy a lot more than just a boot sector if you don't know how to use it |
| 00:29.04 | ranus99 | shad0wcat: so is reinstalling WinME the only solution? |
| 00:29.09 | Gnea | !tell ejay69 about newbie-guide |
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| 00:29.12 | ejay69 | !tell |
| 00:29.15 | mitti | nixie, how that I know which machine to be looking at.. :) thanks! |
| 00:29.19 | shad0wcat | ranus99: I would rather you install XP |
| 00:29.35 | ranus99 | shad0wcat: i can't, i have only a license for WinME |
| 00:29.41 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: it's not a package for windows, it's a package for debian. |
| 00:30.00 | dli | ranus99, I use dd, because I have FAI server here |
| 00:30.06 | shad0wcat | dondelelcaro: he wants to clear grub off an FAT32 volume |
| 00:30.12 | shad0wcat | using the tools in WinME |
| 00:30.15 | shad0wcat | which don't exist |
| 00:30.24 | ryanium`` | with windowmaker I get the error /usr/lib/WindowMaker/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display "", does anyone know the problem? |
| 00:30.25 | ranus99 | shad0wcat: and i won't buy winXP because i am switching to linux. WinME is only for some old apps, my printer and scanner that don't work on linux at the moment because of missing drivers. |
| 00:30.47 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: sound great, how is the package called? |
| 00:30.52 | dondelelcaro | !info mbr |
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| 00:30.59 | dpkg | mbr: (Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.1.5-2 (sid), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 46 kB |
| 00:31.16 | ejay69 | !info ldap |
| 00:31.30 | ejay69 | !info slapd |
| 00:31.32 | varsendagger | hey when i apt-get a file it returns an error that the file is trying to override a file and then apt-get quits what are my options |
| 00:31.36 | dpkg | slapd: (OpenLDAP server (slapd)), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.26-4.0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 858 kB, Installed size: 2176 kB |
| 00:32.21 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: Is this the package name "!info mbr"? I can't check at the moment because i am running slackware here at the moment. Need to first setup lilo to boot debian. |
| 00:32.23 | dondelelcaro | but you may end up needing to reinstall, since that's the only way I know of for sure to reinstall ntldr or whatever they're using nowadays. |
| 00:32.27 | dli | varsendagger, usually the file is not an important one, double check, then, try "dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/foo.deb" |
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| 00:32.35 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: no, the package is called mbr. |
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| 00:33.52 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: supposedly the fixboot command on the windows install disk will do this; regardless, it's now wildly OT for #debian. |
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| 00:34.12 | dobby | is it possible to create a group with a predefind gid? |
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| 00:34.52 | dondelelcaro | dobby: yes, use the --gid option to addgroup |
| 00:34.54 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: the problem is, there is no fixboot command in WinME. I will try the debian package thanks |
| 00:35.08 | dondelelcaro | ranus99: *shrug* |
| 00:35.23 | dobby | thanks |
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| 00:35.56 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: does the install-mbr programm/command of the mbr package fix the windows partiton's boot sector or only the mbr? |
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| 00:36.15 | bluefox83 | i think it's fixed.. hdparm says use_dma is 1 |
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| 00:36.31 | dondelelcaro | probably only the mbr, but who knows? |
| 00:36.41 | dli | bluefox83, and music is smooth now? |
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| 00:37.01 | ejay69 | failed to bind to server ldap://127.0.0.1/ with dn can anyone pls help me!!! |
| 00:37.14 | ranus99 | dondelelcaro: ok, i will try. i hope i won't need to reinstall windows |
| 00:37.27 | ranus99 | thanks to all that helped |
| 00:37.41 | bluefox83 | dli, apt is downloading right now..get back to you when it starts configuring packages... |
| 00:38.33 | varsendagger | dli i typed that in the command line, but it comes up with the dpkg help |
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| 00:39.42 | b33r | Hi, lilo wouldmt let me boot off raid0 so i changed /boot to raid1, but i didnt add raid1 support in the kernel, now my system will boot... but when it does a fsck of /dev/md0 it cannot even access it |
| 00:40.18 | dli | varsendagger, the location of the deb file is actually shown when you got that overwritten error message |
| 00:40.36 | varsendagger | dpkg wnats an action option isn't --force-overwrite an action option |
| 00:40.41 | alexey | why LILO ? Why not GRUB? GRUB is much more stable (in case you forget to update LILO) |
| 00:41.09 | dli | varsendagger, reproduce that error message, and put the filename with whole path after "dpkg --force-overwrite " |
| 00:41.24 | shad0wcat | this must be lilo day |
| 00:41.30 | shad0wcat | three lilo questions in a row |
| 00:41.35 | dli | varsendagger, sorry, "dpkg -force-overwrite -i " |
| 00:42.02 | varsendagger | ohh |
| 00:42.24 | dli | shad0wcat, Have a box with scsi raid, is it easy to install debian on it? |
| 00:42.40 | shad0wcat | depends |
| 00:42.44 | dli | shad0wcat, it runs redhat now, very old and buggy |
| 00:42.53 | varsendagger | great it is doing stuf now |
| 00:42.58 | dli | shad0wcat, i20, aic217xx, something like that |
| 00:43.09 | dli | varsendagger, then, just "apt-get -f install" |
| 00:43.25 | shad0wcat | dli: if the module is supported |
| 00:43.28 | shad0wcat | it should be very easy |
| 00:43.32 | shad0wcat | err |
| 00:43.36 | shad0wcat | hardware I mean |
| 00:43.38 | bluefox83 | does apt-get -f install ever actually work? in my experience it just spits out th esame damned errors |
| 00:43.46 | shad0wcat | if there is a module in the stock kernel |
| 00:43.48 | shad0wcat | you can just install |
| 00:43.50 | shad0wcat | if there is no module |
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| 00:43.55 | shad0wcat | then you'll ahve to create a custom cd |
| 00:44.02 | shad0wcat | which is umm... harder |
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| 00:44.08 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: did you fix your hd problem? |
| 00:44.12 | dli | shad0wcat, great, I will try :) but the problem is I can not format the disk, because of user data |
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| 00:44.29 | bluefox83 | shad0wcat, gunna find out soon as apt starts configuring |
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| 00:44.43 | dli | shad0wcat, I remember debian can not make it bootable without formating the partition |
| 00:44.47 | bluefox83 | right now it's just unpacking |
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| 00:46.28 | dli | shad0wcat, does the stardard sarge installation cd support scsi raid? |
| 00:46.35 | shad0wcat | yes |
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| 00:47.08 | dli | shad0wcat, great :) |
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| 00:47.33 | dli | shad0wcat, We bought this cluster with redhat installed :( |
| 00:47.39 | iluciv | Hi |
| 00:47.56 | bluefox83 | shad0wcat, my bios has an "auto" setting for the HD DMA aand PIO settings, and it also has modes from 0 to 4, which should i use next time? |
| 00:48.06 | dli | shad0wcat, now, I have replaced with debian on all except the one with scsi raid |
| 00:48.46 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: the highest on both settings |
| 00:48.50 | shad0wcat | if that doesn't work |
| 00:48.54 | shad0wcat | you need a kernel upgrade |
| 00:49.05 | bluefox83 | ok, so it should always be 4? |
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| 00:49.09 | ranus99 | i found a new solution: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux/browse_thread/thread/7c0015880d667dec/ae447aed97bf09e5?lnk=st&q=loading+windows+grub+loading+stage2+read+error&rnum=1&hl=en#ae447aed97bf09e5 |
| 00:49.10 | iluciv | I'm wondering why my debian sid install is producing the error /etc/X11/X is not an executable and thus not allowing me to boot into the X interface even though gnome is running?? |
| 00:49.15 | shad0wcat | you shouldn't be using PIO period |
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| 00:49.18 | shad0wcat | you should be using DMA |
| 00:49.22 | shad0wcat | if you're not using DMA |
| 00:49.24 | ranus99 | i will try this one first: If you installed it to the first bootable sector, go in using either DOS |
| 00:49.24 | ranus99 | fdisk or another partitioning tool of your choosing and set your Windows |
| 00:49.24 | ranus99 | partition as bootable. |
| 00:49.27 | shad0wcat | and you set the bios to force it |
| 00:49.35 | shad0wcat | you need a new kernel that supports your controller |
| 00:49.38 | dli | shad0wcat, do I have to format the installation partition? |
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| 00:49.48 | shad0wcat | dli: find out |
| 00:50.01 | bluefox83 | i have them both set to auto |
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| 00:50.13 | shad0wcat | and hdparm indicates you're still in pio mode? |
| 00:50.18 | shad0wcat | aka dma (0)? |
| 00:50.22 | bluefox83 | mmm..starting to look like i didn't fix the problem, still very jittery |
| 00:50.33 | shad0wcat | you need a new kernel then |
| 00:50.48 | Guerin | no |
| 00:51.02 | Guerin | you need a new controller |
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| 00:51.08 | shad0wcat | or that |
| 00:51.16 | shad0wcat | I prefer compiling a kernel |
| 00:51.19 | shad0wcat | but hey that's just me |
| 00:51.21 | en1gma | can someone point me to a guide for what to do with grub (after you already have created a kernel from linux sources) as it what to do with the bzImage and system.map files (which i already know) but i dont know what to do with grub after that |
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| 00:51.32 | en1gma | as in* |
| 00:51.41 | shad0wcat | en1gma: did you even read how to compile a kernel under debian? |
| 00:51.43 | dondelelcaro | en1gma: edit your menu.lst |
| 00:51.44 | Guerin | shad0wcat: except that it'll practically never change dma support for given hardware. |
| 00:51.53 | dondelelcaro | en1gma: or just run update-grub if you're using a debian kernel. |
| 00:51.54 | ryanium`` | with windowmaker I get the error /usr/lib/WindowMaker/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display "", does anyone know the problem? |
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| 00:52.00 | en1gma | shad0wcat i keep on trying to tell you i cant do it that way |
| 00:52.02 | bluefox83 | the music isn't jittery, but i can start typing and sometimes the screen doesn't keep up..i can even stop for a few seconds and it will sit there and blink |
| 00:52.08 | en1gma | so please answer my specific question |
| 00:52.11 | dondelelcaro | ryanium``: DISPLAY isn't set to the proper value. |
| 00:52.21 | shad0wcat | sigh |
| 00:52.22 | bluefox83 | and it's still just unpacking..not even configuring anything |
| 00:52.25 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: how do i set it to the right value? |
| 00:52.25 | en1gma | i will not be using a debian kernel |
| 00:52.27 | shad0wcat | bluefox83: as I said |
| 00:52.29 | dli | en1gma, apt-get install kernel-package |
| 00:52.31 | shad0wcat | you need a new kernel |
| 00:52.36 | shad0wcat | or a new controller |
| 00:52.36 | dondelelcaro | export DISPLAY=":0.0" or similar. |
| 00:52.37 | shad0wcat | pick one |
| 00:52.40 | dondelelcaro | !kp mantra |
| 00:52.40 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is export MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4 HOSTCC=gcc-3.4"; make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image; |
| 00:52.43 | mitti | nixie, dli, The problem was all on the client, works like a charm again.. thanks! |
| 00:52.54 | bluefox83 | ok, i'm using kernel-image-2.6.11-1-k7 |
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| 00:53.11 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: i thought about that too, but it still doesn't work, just says could not open display ":0.0" |
| 00:53.22 | [Nukem] | how can I change the resolution of tty in boot (grub) ? |
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| 00:53.28 | en1gma | anyone gonna answer my Q or are you just gonna ignore me cause im not doing it the way you want me to do |
| 00:53.29 | dondelelcaro | ryanium``: do you have an X server running on :0.0? |
| 00:53.30 | dli | mitti: nfs is quite simple, but be careful with your firewall, make sure it blocks well |
| 00:53.31 | shad0wcat | [Nukem]: you can't |
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| 00:53.33 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 00:53.39 | iluciv | I'm wondering why my debian sid install is producing the error /etc/X11/X is not executable and thus not allowing me to boot into the X interface even though gnome is running?? |
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| 00:54.01 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: hmm. I had xfree installed automatically when installing debian, so im not sure |
| 00:54.07 | shad0wcat | iluciv: because that's not the X executable |
| 00:54.18 | dondelelcaro | en1gma: your question has already been answered. Being insulting to those trying to help you has resulted in you being silenced on this channel. Have a nice day. |
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| 00:54.35 | dondelelcaro | ryanium``: has X started though? |
| 00:54.48 | shad0wcat | all binaries are kept in /usr, /bin, /sbin |
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| 00:55.00 | dondelelcaro | save for those in /lib... |
| 00:55.02 | shad0wcat | all /etc contains are scripts and configuration settings |
| 00:55.08 | shad0wcat | oh ya forgot /lib |
| 00:55.14 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: no i dont think so, how do i start it? I know I can do 'gdm' and a ghetto gui comes up lol |
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| 00:55.25 | [Nukem] | how can I change the resolution of tty in boot (grub) ? |
| 00:55.32 | iluciv | shad0wcat: It was working what would I have done to set X this way?? |
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| 00:55.35 | dondelelcaro | and indeed, in this case /etc/X11/X is a symlink to /usr/bin/X11/Xorg or whatever is your default X server. |
| 00:55.38 | shad0wcat | [Nukem]: I already told you |
| 00:55.40 | shad0wcat | you CAN'T |
| 00:55.47 | dli | dondelelcaro, at installation, do I have to format the / installation partition? |
| 00:55.52 | shad0wcat | and just because you didn't get the answer you wanted doesn't mean you can repeat it |
| 00:55.59 | shad0wcat | jeez |
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| 00:56.02 | shad0wcat | what is it with people today |
| 00:56.03 | dondelelcaro | dli: if you haven't already formatted it, yes. |
| 00:56.12 | [Nukem] | why i can't? |
| 00:56.17 | dli | dondelelcaro, say, I have redhat installed now |
| 00:56.19 | dondelelcaro | ryanium``: or startx, yes. |
| 00:56.25 | [Nukem] | in kurumin it's works |
| 00:56.34 | dondelelcaro | dli: if you want to install Debian, yes, it's best to start from scratch |
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| 00:56.48 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: startx starts gdm, but i'd rather have wmaker run. |
| 00:56.49 | dondelelcaro | [Nukem]: set a vga paramter or similar so that the kernel will select the proper vga mode once it boots |
| 00:56.56 | grendal_prime | i got a machine that has maxed out its hd somehow... |
| 00:56.58 | dli | dondelelcaro, I have user data on it. :( |
| 00:57.08 | grendal_prime | whats the fastest way to view the largest file on the drive |
| 00:57.11 | shad0wcat | dondelelcaro: that'll change it to framebuffer |
| 00:57.17 | grendal_prime | i have a feeling its a logfile of some sort |
| 00:57.18 | shad0wcat | but he wants to change the intial menu |
| 00:57.18 | bluefox83 | oooo, it's setting everything up and the music isn't being jittery ^_^ |
| 00:57.21 | shad0wcat | which is impossible |
| 00:57.23 | dondelelcaro | shad0wcat: not necessarily. |
| 00:57.36 | iluciv | shad0wcat: I did try to install Nvidia drivers which told my no kernel source (no biggie) but I don't understand why its now borking when the driver install didn't even start?? |
| 00:57.39 | dondelelcaro | dli: then don't, backup the user data, then format it (or get another partition...) |
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| 00:58.27 | scruffy | I've remounted a SCSI drive read only, I start copying the disk with dd, it gets to 14131200 bytes transferred and starts sending two beeps. Any idea what might be happening? |
| 00:58.33 | bucky | bluefox83, so does the installer support your scsi controller? |
| 00:58.42 | dli | dondelelcaro, I will see :( |
| 00:58.42 | [Nukem] | I need my ttys in high resolution... just it |
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| 00:59.04 | Art | What is the best (ie: sanest) way to tell Firefox to open .ra, .rm, etc with Realplayer, .pdf with Acroread, etc? |
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| 00:59.37 | Guerin | grendal_prime: du --all -k |sort -n |tail -2 |
| 00:59.38 | bluefox83 | bucky, whah? scsi controller? i don't have a scsi drive to plug into my scsi controller, but since the kernel automatically is loading scisi modules i would suppose it does O.o |
| 00:59.48 | bluefox83 | *scsi |
| 00:59.53 | dondelelcaro | [Nukem]: so use vga=ask on boot, then set it appropriately. |
| 01:00.04 | Guerin | grendal_prime: gives two entries, the top one is the biggest file |
| 01:00.07 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: startx starts gdm, but how come wmaker won't run then? |
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| 01:00.17 | [Nukem] | where i give the vga= propriets? |
| 01:00.23 | dondelelcaro | ryanium``: uh, no. startx may start gnome, but it won't start gdm. |
| 01:00.32 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: sorry then its gnome |
| 01:00.35 | dondelelcaro | [Nukem]: on your kernel line in your menu.lst or in your lilo.conf |
| 01:00.36 | bluefox83 | ryanium``, gdm will run wmaker after you log in >.> |
| 01:00.54 | [Nukem] | menu.lst > grub |
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| 01:01.06 | dondelelcaro | ryanium``: add an .Xsession which does 'exec wmaker' or similar. |
| 01:01.10 | [Nukem] | vga=ask ? |
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| 01:01.22 | bucky | Art, i think mozplugger will do it for firefox as well |
| 01:01.25 | [Nukem] | and it will ask to me the resolution? |
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| 01:01.38 | iluciv | can someone point me in the directrion to where I can find some info on making the xserver see X not as the executable please |
| 01:01.41 | daft | im trying to run xmove but i keep getting connect: Connection refused can some one help me with this? |
| 01:01.44 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: thanks, lol, now to get rid of This HORRIBLE resolution >< |
| 01:01.51 | Art | bucky, Thn. |
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| 01:01.57 | Art | thnx |
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| 01:02.34 | dondelelcaro | iluciv: ls -l /etc/X11/X; that should be a symlink to your real X server. |
| 01:02.37 | Firefishe | heya Gnea |
| 01:02.46 | Firefishe | hi cheal |
| 01:02.55 | [Nukem] | dondelelcaro thanks |
| 01:03.04 | Firefishe | does anyone here use debian 3.1 sarge with xine to watch dvd's? |
| 01:03.11 | iluciv | dondelelcaro:thanks but what would I have done to cause this bork? |
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| 01:03.13 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: sure, some people do. |
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| 01:03.21 | [Nukem] | shad0wcat thanks for the "its impossible" ;D |
| 01:03.30 | Guerin | [Nukem]: you can also get them with hwinfo --monitor |
| 01:03.34 | bluefox83 | how do i find the value of CC? |
| 01:03.34 | dondelelcaro | iluciv: the list of things are infinite, especially since you haven't told us exactly what has happened. |
| 01:03.42 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: now off the top of your head how to improve my resolution? it runs the same for gnome/wmaker |
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| 01:03.54 | Guerin | [Nukem]: and don't listen to shad0wcat, he pretends to know much more than he does |
| 01:03.55 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: echo $CC, it's generally /usr/bin/cc |
| 01:03.59 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: well, I've got video but no sound..any ideas what might be wrong? I seem to have all the required libraries and I have sound in xmms, etc., so I don't know what's going on |
| 01:04.18 | dondelelcaro | ryanium``: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; and enter the proper values. |
| 01:04.24 | ryanium`` | thank you. |
| 01:04.31 | bluefox83 | dondelelcaro, it just returned a $null value! |
| 01:04.36 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: you're probably either using the wrong sound device or the wrong audio driver. |
| 01:04.47 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: right, make will set it to a default of /usr/bin/cc iirc. |
| 01:04.51 | Magnus-swe | have a look at "monsanto" "rockefeller" "fbi" "cia" |
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| 01:05.11 | dondelelcaro | how about lets not. |
| 01:05.48 | TwistedEmotions | Ok... something new... I am recieving my internet connection wirelessly.. and everything works fine with that... my room mate can't pick up on the signal because he is farther away and is using a shittier card... I was thinking since I have a open ethernet card... perhaps I could share my net access with the router/ethernet port... |
| 01:05.55 | iluciv | dondelelcaro: I tried to install nvidia drivers (I did do a chmod +x on the nvidia.run file) but the nvidia driver didn't complie cause I don't have the kernel source installed. I did do /etc/init.d/gdm stop and killall gdm |
| 01:05.56 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: well, I do have a strange setup. I have two sound systems. one on the mainboard, and one in a pci slot, with a daughter card (it's for a synth setup, but I don't normally use it for playback of cd's, dvd's and the like |
| 01:06.19 | TwistedEmotions | basically.. how do I share my internet connection? And also is there a way to limit the transfer rate? |
| 01:06.26 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: xmms has a menu system for selecting each type of sound output module available; does xine have a similiar config interface? |
| 01:06.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you there? |
| 01:06.30 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: right, so you just need to make sure you've got the right device selected; I forget precisely how you do that in xine. |
| 01:06.35 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: it should, yes. |
| 01:06.41 | bucky | !seen deadcat |
| 01:06.41 | dpkg | deadcat is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 26501 messages. Is idling for 15h 39m 18s |
| 01:06.49 | TwistedEmotions | basterd ;P |
| 01:06.56 | relaxed | openoffice2 is in unstable :) |
| 01:07.00 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: okay, I think I know where that might be...thank you for the assistance. I'll let you know how I fare. |
| 01:07.07 | TwistedEmotions | sudo apt-get update |
| 01:07.10 | TwistedEmotions | errr.. |
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| 01:07.18 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: password: |
| 01:07.25 | iluciv | dondelelcaro: thats basically all I've done only installed deb today (can you tell :) ) |
| 01:07.33 | grendal_prime | thanks Guerin |
| 01:07.37 | grendal_prime | its working now |
| 01:07.41 | Firefishe | heya grendal :) |
| 01:07.49 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: hahaha... it's in sudoers file... |
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| 01:07.53 | Firefishe | thanks for your help the other night |
| 01:08.01 | dondelelcaro | iluciv: right, well, something there may have deleted the symlink... anyway, not really a big deal. |
| 01:08.04 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: np |
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| 01:08.26 | grendal_prime | Firefishe, ? what did i help you with? |
| 01:08.50 | grendal_prime | umm i mean...hey what are friends for...you bringing the beer over tonight? |
| 01:08.50 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone? Sharing problem? |
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| 01:09.24 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: the easy way is to install ipmasq, and then configure it; as far as rate limiting, you'll need ts and some sort of configuration to set up ts. |
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| 01:09.54 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: ty ;) |
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| 01:10.32 | aurax | hello |
| 01:11.16 | ryanium`` | dondelelcaro: thanks i've made my resolution higher now, but half the screen has a wiggly vertical line through it overlaps |
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| 01:11.45 | aurax | does anyone here works with amd opterons ? |
| 01:12.06 | sussudio | !sunday |
| 01:12.06 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 01:12.12 | bucky | aurax, try #debian-amd64 ? |
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| 01:12.24 | aurax | oh |
| 01:12.25 | aurax | thx |
| 01:12.29 | sussudio | ... |
| 01:12.31 | iluciv | dodelelcaro: /etc/X11/X > /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 01:12.43 | Firefishe | grendal_prime: Ummm... I think some kind of...aw shucks, now I can't rmbr. |
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| 01:14.25 | grendal_prime | thanks Guerin but umm basically its pointint to /var/tmp folder |
| 01:14.37 | bluefox83 | ok, i'm not having the best luck with gcc or cc or PATH...how do i make sure everything in those is set correctly? |
| 01:14.41 | Guerin | grendal_prime: so that's where your biggest file is |
| 01:14.50 | grendal_prime | and there is a shitload of data in there..but i thought that got purged on system reboot...and i definatly rebooted the machine |
| 01:14.56 | bucky | bluefox83, gcc --version |
| 01:15.13 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: crash? |
| 01:15.25 | bluefox83 | gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 (Debian 4.0.2-2) |
| 01:15.25 | grendal_prime | how would i go about delleting everything in that dir rm * ? |
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| 01:15.35 | iluciv | bugger got to go thanks anyway |
| 01:15.39 | SoHaN | is there any min requirements to install Debian? |
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| 01:15.48 | bucky | bluefox83, i guess it's in your path |
| 01:15.54 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 01:16.09 | bluefox83 | dondelelcaro, compile nvidia drivers |
| 01:16.11 | dondelelcaro | SoHaN: 486 with ~24M of memory is basically the minimal. |
| 01:16.20 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: and why are you mucking about with CC? |
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| 01:16.28 | bluefox83 | dondelelcaro, i have no idea |
| 01:17.02 | SoHaN | dondelelcaro> i havent used debian before.. and I only have 1 pc.. so is it too difficult to install debian? |
| 01:17.18 | bluefox83 | dondelelcaro, i do know that i need to use the older copy of gcc.. |
| 01:17.23 | dondelelcaro | SoHaN: no, it's not that difficult. |
| 01:17.24 | bucky | let me guess.. the nvidia installer complained that the gcc version that compiled your kernel is not the same as the one you're using to compile the nvidia driver |
| 01:17.39 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: so make CC=gcc-3.3 or make CC=gcc-3.4; or similar. |
| 01:18.14 | dondelelcaro | SoHaN: but then again, I'm biased, having done it a few hundred times. You may want to read the install guide first to get a bead on whether or not it will be easy for you. |
| 01:18.21 | bluefox83 | dondelelcaro, i'm using the nvidia drivers from their website.. |
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| 01:19.06 | bluefox83 | it uses an auto installer thing... |
| 01:19.08 | dli | SoHaN, find a second machine to allow you to ask questions here, during the installation |
| 01:19.34 | bluefox83 | btw $PATH does not show the location of cc |
| 01:19.34 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: that auto installer thing is crap; /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 01:20.01 | dli | bluefox83, "ls /usr/bin/gcc*" |
| 01:20.21 | bluefox83 | dli, i know where it is and what versions i have >.> |
| 01:20.32 | bluefox83 | i have both 3.4 and 4.0 |
| 01:20.44 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: it will if you have anything that provides a cc alternative (it being just a symlink to /etc/alternatives/cc which generally points at /etc/alternatives/gcc |
| 01:20.47 | bucky | module-assistant is more fun than the nvidia installer |
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| 01:20.58 | dondelelcaro | s#etc/alternatives/gcc#usr/bin/gcc# |
| 01:21.08 | cheal | yeah....when it works |
| 01:21.13 | bucky | haha |
| 01:21.20 | Guerin | m-a works |
| 01:21.25 | Guerin | it really does |
| 01:21.39 | cheal | heh, I sent them a bug report about nvidia failing to build |
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| 01:21.49 | cheal | they fixed it, and I think it's broken again |
| 01:21.56 | cheal | but of course, that's nvidia :) |
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| 01:27.32 | orfeu | hy ! i have a problem pls can you tell what represents the number in a kernel version Ex 2.6.x.y ! what mean x and y ! if x is pair that means the kernel is stable tank you |
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| 01:28.06 | varsendagger | what is a daemon |
| 01:28.30 | Tortel | :O |
| 01:28.31 | Tortel | omg |
| 01:28.47 | Tortel | brb |
| 01:28.50 | [Confusion] | a guy witch stole ur soul |
| 01:28.51 | [Confusion] | ^^ |
| 01:28.54 | Guerin | varsendagger: it's something you should read about on wikipedia |
| 01:28.58 | Guerin | which |
| 01:29.00 | Guerin | your |
| 01:29.08 | TwistedEmotions | !test |
| 01:29.08 | dpkg | Sorry, twistedemotions, I didn't get your test. |
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| 01:30.05 | [Confusion] | gratz guerin all errors found |
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| 01:33.01 | varsendagger | i am trying to run gdesklets and it needs to run the deamon, but it can't get it running and i get an error aobut gnome-python bindings, but ihave installed pyth-gnome-dev |
| 01:33.45 | RalfG | hi there, just found http://www.marko.net/cheops/ "Cheops does for the network what a file manager does for your filesystem." |
| 01:34.02 | bluefox83 | crap |
| 01:34.09 | RalfG | it just needs a maintainer to be continued |
| 01:34.12 | bluefox83 | module assistant can't compile it for some reason |
| 01:34.30 | Guerin | RalfG: what's your point? |
| 01:34.33 | RalfG | bluefox83: are you refering to cheops? |
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| 01:35.16 | RalfG | mh, I thought anybody of you would agree - and apply for adoption :) but this is not the devel chn |
| 01:35.26 | grendal_prime | cheops is werid..sometimes it gives me information that is totally wrong |
| 01:35.47 | RalfG | grendal_prime: so you did try it anyway? any alternatives? |
| 01:35.57 | grendal_prime | would be nice if it worked...but its almost like it needs to listen to the network for a little more time |
| 01:36.06 | grendal_prime | nmap works pretty damn good |
| 01:36.10 | bluefox83 | RalfG, che..what? no i'm refering to nvidia |
| 01:36.25 | RalfG | nmap? |
| 01:36.28 | grendal_prime | use the pingsweep option if you want to scan your network |
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| 01:36.43 | RalfG | http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ |
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| 01:37.01 | bluefox83 | where's the nvidia installer log? |
| 01:37.02 | grendal_prime | that sounds about right..but dude there is a really good pkg for it |
| 01:37.07 | grendal_prime | called..ummm nmap |
| 01:37.18 | RalfG | in case anybody receives 3sat (German TV channel): there are nice video clips |
| 01:37.27 | grendal_prime | and there is even a really cool front end called....nmapfe |
| 01:37.38 | RalfG | cheers grendal_prime |
| 01:37.41 | grendal_prime | got to roll dinnertime |
| 01:37.43 | Guerin | RalfG: have you got anything to contribute other than spam? |
| 01:38.02 | RalfG | sorry, this is not meant to be spam |
| 01:38.42 | RalfG | I found what I was looking for - I hope :) thanks grendal_prime |
| 01:39.45 | octoberdan | If I have no way to scroll up and the program I'm using spits out rediculess amounts of information, how do I view it screenfull by screenfull if the program doesn't support that option? |
| 01:40.00 | Guerin | rediculess? |
| 01:40.07 | Guerin | octoberdan: |less |
| 01:40.09 | Guerin | man |
| 01:40.11 | octoberdan | aahhh |
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| 01:40.17 | octoberdan | Wonderfull, thanks! |
| 01:40.24 | Guerin | i've heard of rediculous, but that really takes the cookie |
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| 01:41.12 | Tortel | !tell me about life |
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| 01:41.33 | Tortel | Wow, dpkg is very wise |
| 01:41.45 | sussudio | !gender |
| 01:41.45 | dpkg | I'm female |
| 01:42.00 | Tortel | :) |
| 01:42.05 | Tortel | !I love you! |
| 01:42.05 | dpkg | The feeling's not mutual |
| 01:42.08 | Tortel | :O |
| 01:42.10 | Tortel | :( |
| 01:42.25 | Tortel | UT2004 demo time |
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| 01:42.55 | sbk | What package installs /usr/dict/words? |
| 01:42.56 | grendal_prime | RalfG, the onlything that is not really mentioned about that app when doing scans of an entire network, you need to add the bittype on the end |
| 01:43.00 | RalfG | grendal_prime: just checked out nmapfe - nice - but without graphical represenation of the net devices |
| 01:43.16 | grendal_prime | so say it was 10.0.0.0 network |
| 01:43.18 | bluefox83 | ok, i think i need some help.. |
| 01:43.29 | grendal_prime | you would put it in as |
| 01:43.35 | RalfG | yes? |
| 01:43.45 | grendal_prime | 10.0.0.0/24 |
| 01:43.49 | bluefox83 | i think module assistant is crapping itself |
| 01:43.51 | RalfG | oh, I see |
| 01:43.57 | bluefox83 | i know i installed the kernel headers for my kernel |
| 01:44.17 | grendal_prime | then it will scan every device on that network..and give you very detailed info on each device |
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| 01:44.47 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know where the DNS file is kept? |
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| 01:45.05 | bluefox83 | but it's saying there is no "scrpits/Makefile.build." stop |
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| 01:45.17 | RalfG | and likewise 192.168.1.0/8 ? |
| 01:45.22 | grendal_prime | nmap 10.0.0.0/24 alone will scan every port of every device on that network...one at a time |
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| 01:45.42 | grendal_prime | no 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 01:45.51 | grendal_prime | it would be a 24 bit network |
| 01:46.27 | RalfG | a, this means that the first 24 bit define the network? |
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| 01:46.48 | grendal_prime | RalfG, not a clue i just know that |
| 01:47.12 | RalfG | ah, now this works |
| 01:47.20 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.30 | grendal_prime | scann that is |
| 01:47.57 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: your aim sucks.. |
| 01:48.16 | RalfG | wow - it even knows the vendor and the system including device class |
| 01:48.19 | grendal_prime | im shitty with sound....i have an app that is trying to use /dev/dsp and it just states that ..it cant for some reason |
| 01:48.45 | RalfG | but you are in audio group? |
| 01:48.48 | grendal_prime | RalfG, its a cool app..im suprised nobody else told you about it..its pretty standard for sysadmin work |
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| 01:48.56 | bluefox83 | i'm posting an error in #flood about this problem compiling, can someone watch and tell me what they think the problem is? |
| 01:49.03 | grendal_prime | RalfG, yes |
| 01:49.26 | grendal_prime | seems like angelina jolie even used it in that movie... |
| 01:49.30 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 01:49.33 | grendal_prime | hackers... |
| 01:49.34 | RalfG | and other apps can use the sound device? |
| 01:49.43 | grendal_prime | ya on the sound thing |
| 01:50.45 | TwistedEmotions | !test |
| 01:50.45 | dpkg | Sorry, twistedemotions, I didn't get your test. |
| 01:50.53 | grendal_prime | is /dev/dsp is obviously a device of some sort...thing is this is a laptop..and i wouldnt even assume that it should work, but i was using audacity to record things and it works just fine |
| 01:51.28 | victor | what pakage install for have the menu of the elive in debian or ubuntu? |
| 01:51.31 | grendal_prime | im trying to get squawkbox working with x-plane |
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| 01:51.56 | grendal_prime | victor, cant figure out what the fuck your asking |
| 01:52.08 | luci0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.27 | grendal_prime | sorry...can no realize the yes no of question there victor |
| 01:53.15 | victor | or a menu 3D for debian? |
| 01:53.36 | RalfG | k, thanx so far, seeyis |
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| 01:54.48 | bluefox83 | what is the difference between the linux-headers and the kernel-headers packages in apt? |
| 01:55.01 | Guerin | bluefox83: read |
| 01:55.07 | w3rdn4 | I just put in a card that allows me to connect my cable tv to a card into my computer to watch tv on the computer. Would there be any software in the debian linux distro that would allow me to watch tv on it? |
| 01:55.09 | Guerin | bluefox83: you can read, can't you? |
| 01:55.27 | luci0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.28 | Guerin | !acs tv |
| 01:55.29 | dpkg | apt-cache search tv |
| 01:55.30 | bluefox83 | Guerin, they have the exact same msg in apt |
| 01:55.41 | Guerin | bluefox83: that should tell you something |
| 01:55.52 | bluefox83 | Guerin, same thing, different name? |
| 01:55.53 | Guerin | luci0: why are you using xfree 3.3.6? |
| 01:55.54 | grendal_prime | furthermore if i lsof | grep /dev/dsp it comes up with nothing |
| 01:55.56 | Guerin | bluefox83: right. |
| 01:56.00 | grendal_prime | so im sure its not...like busy |
| 01:56.08 | bluefox83 | Guerin, you coulda said that when i first asked |
| 01:56.24 | luci0 | Guerin my card video is sis 6215c |
| 01:56.25 | Guerin | bluefox83: do you want me to wipe your arse for you, too? |
| 01:56.32 | Guerin | luci0: you poor bastard. |
| 01:56.51 | bluefox83 | Guerin, no, i want you to asnwer simple questions courtiously instead of being an asshoel about it |
| 01:56.59 | bluefox83 | *asshole |
| 01:57.03 | bluefox83 | damn typing >.> |
| 01:57.18 | Guerin | bluefox83: why can't you just do your own research instead of leeching off others? |
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| 01:57.45 | perti | hi |
| 01:57.55 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: providing information is part of what we're here for. |
| 01:57.58 | bluefox83 | Guerin, this is a help channel, i came here to get help because i didn't know the answers, pretty sure everyone else did too, so quit your bitching |
| 01:58.13 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: i provided him enough information to figure it out for himself, which he did. |
| 01:58.35 | Guerin | bluefox83: but now you DO know how to find the answer to questions of that sort. |
| 01:58.48 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: yes, but the rest of the interaction between you two was unecessary. |
| 01:58.55 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: fair. |
| 01:59.01 | perti | someone know's what package i need to put gnome in another language?... my system was on spanish. but i upgrade and now its on english. |
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| 01:59.39 | thc | perti: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 01:59.41 | bluefox83 | ok..another not so fun question.. |
| 01:59.59 | w3rdn4 | Hmmm, does anyone know of a nice gui to watch tv through a PCI card that has the cable connected to it? |
| 02:00.01 | eggy | When sending an outbound message (using postfix-smtpd), to a domain that is not hosted on the mail system, it gives me an error in the mail queue: "Name or service not known". What does this mean? |
| 02:00.03 | dondelelcaro | perti: it should be obeying LANG or LANGUAGE |
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| 02:00.48 | Guerin | eggy: i'm pretty sure it means your smtpd can't find that host |
| 02:00.48 | bluefox83 | when i apt-get install linux-headers-2.6-k7 it tries to install linux-headers-2.6.12-k7 as well..what is up with that/ i'm running 2.6.11-1-k7 O.o |
| 02:01.12 | Guerin | bluefox83: look at the apt-cache show; descriptions for those packages |
| 02:01.17 | ekp | hello |
| 02:01.20 | Guerin | bluefox83: come on, we just did this |
| 02:01.28 | perti | ok tahanks and wait. |
| 02:01.31 | bluefox83 | Guerin, i did that, it's not answering the question |
| 02:01.40 | dondelelcaro | !depends linux-headers-2.6-k7 |
| 02:01.45 | dpkg | linux-headers-2.6-k7: depends on linux-headers-2.6.12-1-k7 |
| 02:01.47 | Guerin | bluefox83: yes, it is. |
| 02:01.54 | Guerin | bluefox83: one depends on the other. |
| 02:01.55 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: see above. |
| 02:02.03 | Piggy | O-BEY! O-BEY! |
| 02:02.08 | bluefox83 | now owhy would it need kernel headers for something i am not even using!?!?! |
| 02:02.17 | Guerin | what? |
| 02:02.26 | bluefox83 | why |
| 02:02.27 | eggy | okay... Any sugestions as to why its not finding external domains? What needs to be set? |
| 02:02.28 | bluefox83 | does |
| 02:02.29 | bluefox83 | it |
| 02:02.31 | bluefox83 | depend |
| 02:02.31 | bluefox83 | on |
| 02:02.33 | bluefox83 | kernel |
| 02:02.35 | bluefox83 | headers |
| 02:02.36 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: because you told it to install linux-headers-2.6-k7, which depends on linux-headers |
| 02:02.37 | bluefox83 | i'm |
| 02:02.38 | bluefox83 | not |
| 02:02.39 | bluefox83 | using? |
| 02:02.40 | Guerin | bluefox83: it just hauls in the most recent 2.6 kernels headers |
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| 02:02.48 | Guerin | fucking idiot |
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| 02:03.03 | dondelelcaro | bluefox83: if you do that again, you will be banned permanently. |
| 02:03.03 | bluefox83 | that wasn't nice :/ |
| 02:03.10 | sussudio | bluefox83: moron. |
| 02:03.27 | bluefox83 | dondelelcaro, i didn't see you kick Guerin for being an ass! |
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| 02:03.36 | amphi | !sing sussudio |
| 02:03.46 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: that's not necessary either. |
| 02:03.47 | ekp | can I ask one really easy question? |
| 02:03.52 | dondelelcaro | ekp: just ask |
| 02:04.11 | jim | you just did! |
| 02:04.15 | ekp | is there a difference in font rendering generically between Debian and other distros |
| 02:04.27 | ekp | Debian does not seem as good |
| 02:04.32 | ekp | and I am wondering why |
| 02:04.44 | jim | any difference would be the apps picked to do that job |
| 02:04.56 | ekp | meaning font server? |
| 02:04.58 | Guerin | ekp: potentially, if other distros use different default font rendering mechanisms, or different foonts. |
| 02:04.59 | w3rdn4 | which tv norm is used in the US? |
| 02:05.04 | jim | forexample debian doesn't make the font programs or the fonts itself |
| 02:05.06 | Guerin | w3rdn4: ntsc |
| 02:05.09 | w3rdn4 | thank you |
| 02:05.10 | Tortel | w00t |
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| 02:05.23 | ekp | so would the problem be with the font server |
| 02:05.34 | ekp | and what is chosen in the distro |
| 02:05.34 | Guerin | ekp: what exactly is the problem? |
| 02:05.40 | jim | what do you mean by worse, btw? I'm not having a problem myself |
| 02:05.51 | ekp | I like debian based distros except for that one aree |
| 02:05.56 | sussudio | it's probably not good when you lose all feeling in your extremities and see your hands turn white, right? |
| 02:06.06 | Tortel | yep |
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| 02:06.09 | w3rdn4 | hmm, how do I find out if my tv card has been detected in debian? |
| 02:06.16 | Guerin | sussudio: i'd guess you need to cut yourself down from the harness |
| 02:06.17 | ekp | for example kanotix |
| 02:06.18 | Tortel | Try to watch TV |
| 02:06.22 | ekp | I love the distro |
| 02:06.23 | Guerin | w3rdn4: lspci |
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| 02:06.29 | jim | you're not telling us what you mean :P (that matches the 'troll' pattern, but I'm not yet claiming you're one) |
| 02:06.30 | ekp | but suse does render better |
| 02:06.43 | Guerin | what do you mean by better? |
| 02:06.44 | dondelelcaro | ekp: give us screenshots of what you're talking about. |
| 02:06.46 | jim | be specific :P |
| 02:06.48 | sussudio | Guerin: doctor gave me the wrong pills. |
| 02:06.49 | Guerin | ekp: give us screenshots |
| 02:06.55 | Guerin | sussudio: sue him |
| 02:06.59 | ekp | I will at some other time |
| 02:06.59 | dondelelcaro | ekp: otherwise we're just sitting here with no idea of what you're actually talking about |
| 02:07.00 | Phated | Yeh. |
| 02:07.00 | Tortel | how is suse pronounced? Like doctor suse or sus-a |
| 02:07.08 | sussudio | Tortel: 'beaver' |
| 02:07.11 | Guerin | Tortel: soosah |
| 02:07.12 | ekp | sorry to waste your time |
| 02:07.19 | Tortel | (Another random question) |
| 02:07.20 | eggy | When using postfix-smtpd, how do I make it use or allow external domains? (seems by default it doesn't allow them) |
| 02:07.24 | w3rdn4 | 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02) |
| 02:07.25 | w3rdn4 | 0000:00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02) |
| 02:07.25 | Tortel | ok |
| 02:07.31 | Guerin | w3rdn4: don't paste |
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| 02:07.37 | Guerin | eggy: #postfix |
| 02:07.44 | w3rdn4 | suspect that is the card Guerin ? |
| 02:07.45 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: just use the bt8xxx driver or whatever the bt driver is called nowadays |
| 02:07.56 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: modconf; should enable you to load it |
| 02:07.56 | jetspyd | hello there, hi! |
| 02:08.14 | sussudio | Guerin: bodytemp jojoing between 35.5 and 38 in span of half an hour wasn't much fun either |
| 02:08.17 | jetspyd | i have a question... whats version of debian its better... sarge, sid or etch? |
| 02:08.19 | susp3ct | hi guys, Ive setup a adsl modem as a router and authentication is done on the modem... I have a usb connection going to it, this is the first time im doing this, can anyone give me an idea or a push start in the right direction in getting the link setup? |
| 02:08.19 | Guerin | eggy: also the postfix doc talks about this |
| 02:08.22 | Guerin | sussudio: yeah |
| 02:08.24 | jetspyd | what you recomend? |
| 02:08.25 | amphi | jetspyd: sarge |
| 02:08.36 | amphi | jetspyd: if you need to ask ;) |
| 02:09.15 | w3rdn4 | dondelelcaro, modconf is not a command I can use |
| 02:09.17 | w3rdn4 | hmmm |
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| 02:09.26 | jetspyd | amphi: jajaja... ok, some people tell me that sarge sucks... |
| 02:09.36 | amphi | jetspyd: they suck |
| 02:09.49 | amphi | jetspyd: simple ;) |
| 02:09.50 | eggy | Guerin: Hrm, seeing how I've been at this most of the day, I don't think its real clear about it. |
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| 02:10.45 | jetspyd | amphi: i have a problem with gnome, when i turn on the sound on gnome, the music players show me an error message, but when i turn it off i can hear music perfectly |
| 02:10.59 | jetspyd | amphi: why is that? can i do both? |
| 02:11.49 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: so install it |
| 02:12.00 | amphi | jetspyd: I don't know about gnome |
| 02:12.35 | Guerin | jetspyd: start your music app with esddsp |
| 02:12.59 | jetspyd | and how i do that? |
| 02:13.11 | Guerin | jetspyd: esddsp yourmusicapp & |
| 02:13.14 | w3rdn4 | bttv has a + sign next to it |
| 02:13.16 | w3rdn4 | under modconf |
| 02:13.42 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: then you probably have it loaded; lsmod just to double check. |
| 02:14.40 | jetspyd | Guerin: the only sound system that i can use with gnome is oss? when i select custom gnome shows me an error |
| 02:14.53 | w3rdn4 | yes it is loaded |
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| 02:15.08 | lui | hello |
| 02:15.15 | Guerin | jetspyd: you've reached the outer limits of my gnome knowledge |
| 02:15.43 | w3rdn4 | This is xawtv-3.94, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.8-2-386) |
| 02:15.43 | w3rdn4 | Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct |
| 02:15.53 | w3rdn4 | :( |
| 02:16.00 | jetspyd | Guerin: ok, thaxs to be honest, and for your help |
| 02:16.04 | Gnea | xawtv sucks |
| 02:16.08 | Gnea | tvtime > * |
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| 02:16.51 | w3rdn4 | ok |
| 02:17.17 | nevyn | /topic/ |
| 02:17.29 | Gnea | yes, there is a /topic |
| 02:17.46 | jim | "bluefox83 Guerin, no, i want you to asnwer simple questions courtiously instead of being an asshoel about it" |
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| 02:17.54 | w3rdn4 | hmmm |
| 02:18.02 | omnibike | does anyone know ITIL ? |
| 02:18.02 | Dasnipa` | /tangent |
| 02:18.11 | Guerin | jetspyd: what's your point? |
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| 02:18.13 | Guerin | BAH |
| 02:18.15 | jim | Oh, nice :) so what you're really saying is "I want to pay you money so you'll just shut up and answer me" |
| 02:18.17 | Guerin | jim: what's your point? |
| 02:18.23 | jim | ^^ |
| 02:18.26 | Guerin | OH |
| 02:18.31 | Guerin | fucking hell |
| 02:18.37 | Guerin | my keyboard is going insane |
| 02:18.50 | Guerin | the capslock light is stuck on, and the tab key is marginal |
| 02:18.56 | omnibike | ITIL anyone ? |
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| 02:19.05 | Guerin | maybe there's a bit of food suck in between them or something |
| 02:19.12 | Guerin | omnibike: wth is itil? |
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| 02:19.40 | omnibike | Guerin: what do you know about it ? |
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| 02:20.16 | wkhandsome2003 | hi all |
| 02:20.37 | Guerin | omnibike: nothing at all. |
| 02:20.41 | jim | Guerin: I just get a bit miffed when people are demanding of you (or me or anyone) and think they can be pushy and get away with it without so much as a comment calling them on it |
| 02:20.56 | wkhandsome2003 | any lady here? |
| 02:20.58 | omnibike | me either |
| 02:21.13 | jim | wkhandsome2003: this is SO not a date line. |
| 02:21.15 | Guerin | jim: i don't much care about that, i care that people would rather leech than learn. |
| 02:21.19 | jim | on the other hand... |
| 02:21.22 | jim | dpkg: gender |
| 02:21.23 | dpkg | I'm female |
| 02:21.29 | jim | hey! there ya go! |
| 02:21.32 | wkhandsome2003 | hi sexy |
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| 02:21.45 | jim | dpkg, you're getting hit on |
| 02:22.01 | amphi | !pal wkhandsome2003 |
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| 02:22.22 | jim | oh damn, we were playing wif him :) |
| 02:22.22 | jetspyd | Guerin: i'm looking for development tools... i come from windows and visual c++ with access.... but, what's the better choice for linux? |
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| 02:22.43 | Guerin | jetspyd: access as a development tool? |
| 02:22.47 | Guerin | are you serious? |
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| 02:23.17 | jim | jetspyd: the common thing is gcc (which is really 3 or 4 languages) and postgres |
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| 02:23.42 | jim | but there are literally hundreds of languages you could learn/use with postgres |
| 02:23.47 | lui | I'm a newbie to linux but I have tried suse and now I'm using ubuntu, but I'm trying debian right now just for fun. I have installed debian but the gdm doesn't start 'cause it says It encounter screens but not a good configuration. I've tried what I thought correct but it doesn't work yet. Any advice please? |
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| 02:24.19 | jim | jetspyd: so it may or may not be better... but it sure is dense with thousands of tools you can get free... |
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| 02:24.40 | dondelelcaro | lui: rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; to set up the X configuration |
| 02:24.55 | ltx | hi, i'm relatively new to using debian...i just installed an extra hard drive in my box, and i'm wondering if there is a way to find out which /dev/hd* corresponds to that drive |
| 02:25.08 | jetspyd | jim: i can use postgre for a desktop application and, eventualy, for a network application? |
| 02:25.10 | ltx | without trying to mount each item in /dev manually |
| 02:25.15 | eps | ltx just mount it some where and find out :P |
| 02:25.21 | amphi | ltx: what controller? master or slave? |
| 02:25.22 | jim | I don't think you'd be paying much less than about $50,000 for all the dev tools you could get |
| 02:25.29 | jim | jetspyd: yes |
| 02:25.36 | ltx | Cable select, as slave |
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| 02:25.42 | jim | using any of a large number of languages |
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| 02:26.03 | amphi | ltx: hdb or hdd, depending on which controller |
| 02:26.10 | ltx | ok, thanks |
| 02:26.44 | jim | jetspyd: can I make a suggestion to you... put debian or any other linux/unix alike on a spare box that maybe you were about to hand down |
| 02:26.44 | aurax | anyone here using dual opteron ? |
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| 02:26.58 | eps | amphi is there a better way? I have four hdd's with about 12 partitions all up, I know which one is which from lots of usage but is there an easier way? |
| 02:27.05 | dondelelcaro | aurax: just ask your question... |
| 02:27.06 | lui | dondelelcaro, I've tried but no results. I have a Nvidia Geforce, I choose the nv driver. I choose the advanced for the monitor configure also 'cause I have the info here but nothing yet. |
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| 02:27.34 | dondelelcaro | lui: hrm; well, give us the output from just running X; use the paster bot to do so |
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| 02:27.51 | jetspyd | jim: thanxs ;) |
| 02:28.02 | jim | then you don't have to give up your env |
| 02:28.19 | jim | and I think that's important, you're not just forced to -switch- |
| 02:28.28 | dondelelcaro | eps: looking at dmesg will usually clue you in as to which device it is; /proc/partitions may as well |
| 02:28.56 | eps | thanks |
| 02:29.22 | eps | dondelelcaro /proc/partitions has the sort of thing I was looking for, thanks :D |
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| 02:29.31 | jetspyd | jim: ;) ok, thanx for your help |
| 02:29.38 | jim | jetspyd: would you want to do anything like amazon, ebay, photo.net, greenpeace.org? |
| 02:29.41 | eds01 | would debian run at a decent speed on an old computer (its about 6 years old and it has a pentium 3) |
| 02:29.45 | belrog | hi which is the best way to setup "linux Bridge" |
| 02:29.50 | lui | ok, I'll try but I dont know how to use the paster bot |
| 02:30.17 | jim | like a bridge, over troubled linux, it will ease your mind... |
| 02:30.21 | jetspyd | jim: no, no... just an application to manage a drugtore, restaurant and a hotel |
| 02:30.34 | Guerin | !sing sarge |
| 02:30.34 | dpkg | Any day now, any daaay nooww, I shall beee reeleeeassed... |
| 02:30.35 | jetspyd | jim: an, probably, connect them in a network |
| 02:30.36 | nixie | eds01: depends on what its purpose is. |
| 02:30.51 | jim | jetspyd: then you ought to consider openacs |
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| 02:31.02 | eds01 | well, its just going to be used at home for stuff |
| 02:31.04 | Guerin | jim: dpkg has quite a strong 60s repertoire |
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| 02:31.29 | jim | it's a learning curve... but then, the client machines just need a web browser |
| 02:31.31 | eds01 | surfing the net, wrting stuff, listening to music |
| 02:31.37 | jetspyd | jim: excuseme, what "ought" means? |
| 02:31.48 | belrog | want to setup the best linux bridge |
| 02:31.50 | mhall | What's the canonical Debian method for automatically xmodmapping right Windows (Super_R) to Compose? I can do it trivially with a terminal command, but I'm not so sure how to do it by default. |
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| 02:31.51 | nixie | eds01: generally yes. put >128mb ram in it if you run a lot of services, or X |
| 02:31.52 | jim | jetspyd: kinda like "should" |
| 02:31.54 | liberty | ought == should |
| 02:32.16 | jim | "ought to be" == "should be" |
| 02:32.18 | eds01 | ok |
| 02:32.19 | jetspyd | jim: and "openacs" (sory, i'm argentinian) |
| 02:32.27 | eds01 | so i should u X? |
| 02:32.31 | eds01 | err, use |
| 02:32.33 | jim | jetspyd: see openacs.org |
| 02:32.35 | dondelelcaro | mhall: I just add an xmodmap to my .Xsession |
| 02:32.37 | BobABowie | Which debian install will give me kernel 2.6, I want to use tc/netem |
| 02:32.47 | nixie | eds |
| 02:32.47 | dondelelcaro | BobABowie: any sarge install will. |
| 02:32.51 | jetspyd | jim: i will |
| 02:32.53 | nixie | depends on what you're doing. |
| 02:32.53 | assink | hm |
| 02:32.55 | dondelelcaro | BobABowie: just use linux26 |
| 02:32.57 | assink | time for a joint |
| 02:33.02 | Gnea | BobABowie: sarge will, just type linux26 instead of just hitting enter at the install |
| 02:33.05 | jim | it's almost exactly what you need for a toolkit |
| 02:33.09 | liberty | assink: yeah |
| 02:33.17 | assink | just went home from work |
| 02:33.18 | assink | hehe |
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| 02:33.37 | Gnea | i've been sitting around all day getting jack shit done |
| 02:33.40 | TwistedEmotions | Can anyone tell me what I need to to with my interfaces file to make it ready to have the eth0 shared? |
| 02:33.47 | liberty | oh man my neck hell of hurts |
| 02:33.48 | TwistedEmotions | iface eth0 |
| 02:33.48 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.48 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.48 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:33.51 | ttick | okay, I did an "apt-cache show mozilla-firefox" and the first entry says version 1.4beta. But I installed "apt-get install -t unstable mozilla-firefox" and only got version 1.07. ? |
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| 02:34.03 | TwistedEmotions | Whoops.. |
| 02:34.06 | Guerin | mhall: i have xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key' & in xsession |
| 02:34.09 | TwistedEmotions | that was meant for #flood |
| 02:34.20 | BobABowie | is anyone familiar with tc on debian, is it installed by default? |
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| 02:34.39 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: please don't paste here; all you need is a second interface, and set up ipmasq to relay between the two. |
| 02:34.46 | dondelelcaro | BobABowie: no, but you can trivially install it. |
| 02:34.51 | nixie | BobABowie: iirc its in iproute package |
| 02:34.58 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: ;( Sorry.. |
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| 02:35.06 | Gnea | BobABowie: i/wii nixie |
| 02:35.07 | Gnea | fjieopwq |
| 02:35.09 | jim | TwistedEmotions: the gateway must be on the same net as 192.168.1 |
| 02:35.17 | susp3ct | how do I connect to a usb router using a usb connection? the config is on the router so all I need to do is get an eth connection to the modem... how can I do this? I have searched far and wide, I still havent found anything usefull (maybe Im not phrasing it right?) any suggestions on how to do this?) |
| 02:35.24 | Gnea | yeah, i just /whois random people like that |
| 02:35.40 | jetspyd | jim: thanxs, thats interesting... i have to read... thanx and byes! |
| 02:35.48 | Gnea | fucking keyboard |
| 02:36.29 | belrog | my bridge setup does slow data transfer? |
| 02:37.12 | lui | dondelelcaro, you think it could work if I paste the xorg configuration of my ubuntu to the xf86config-4? |
| 02:37.19 | nvz | now thats what saturdays are for. |
| 02:37.32 | ttick | lui: probably |
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| 02:37.49 | dondelelcaro | lui: possibly; you may have better luck if you upgrade to testing though. |
| 02:37.51 | assink | nvz: what are saturdays for? :P |
| 02:37.58 | nvz | assink: sleeping all day |
| 02:38.03 | Guerin | i disagree |
| 02:38.05 | assink | nvz: hehe and smoking joints |
| 02:38.05 | assink | :> |
| 02:38.13 | nvz | assink: I dont have any papers |
| 02:38.13 | liberty | assink: bushcrack0r |
| 02:38.16 | Guerin | drinking rum and listening to the americana show on active |
| 02:38.21 | assink | nvz: here you are |
| 02:38.26 | assink | nvz: i have enough papers |
| 02:38.26 | susp3ct | assink, getting drunk!!! |
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| 02:38.37 | assink | susp3ct: i dont drink alcohol |
| 02:38.39 | lui | dondelelcaro, i'll try to check my luck! ;P |
| 02:38.45 | susp3ct | assink, thats a shame ;) |
| 02:38.47 | assink | susp3ct: alcohol is Hard drugs |
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| 02:38.51 | Guerin | the best bit about the americana show is that it's followed by roots and culture, the reggae show |
| 02:38.55 | Guerin | assink: haha |
| 02:38.56 | susp3ct | assink, it is good in moderation |
| 02:39.01 | jessy | hola |
| 02:39.03 | nvz | I only got like an hour and 20 minutes of Saturday left |
| 02:39.07 | nixie | assink: light it up already |
| 02:39.10 | nvz | I slept the rest of it away |
| 02:39.11 | ttick | okay, I did an "apt-cache show mozilla-firefox" and the first entry says version 1.4beta. But I installed "apt-get install -t unstable mozilla-firefox" and only got version 1.07. Anyone know how to get the 1.4 version? |
| 02:39.13 | assink | i only do softdrugs |
| 02:39.14 | assink | :) |
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| 02:39.23 | liberty | 666packs |
| 02:39.36 | assink | everyday after work, assink sits in the coffeeshop smoking a nice joint and drinking a coffee |
| 02:39.37 | jessy | soy mexicana |
| 02:39.45 | dondelelcaro | ttick: because it's in experimental, not unstable. |
| 02:39.50 | susp3ct | assink, excessive drinking may cause agressive behaviour :( and a false sense of well being :( |
| 02:39.54 | nvz | everyone else can say TGIF, not me.. Ihave to work Friday mornings and Friday night. I say TGIFS |
| 02:40.04 | susp3ct | assink, is there a such thing as softdrugs? |
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| 02:40.17 | liberty | coffee and juana are no problem here |
| 02:40.21 | JaMaLz | hello every one |
| 02:40.28 | assink | here neither |
| 02:40.39 | liberty | maybe a smokie to round it out |
| 02:40.43 | ttick | dondelelcaro: ah, okay, thanks. |
| 02:40.54 | JaMaLz | i have a pentanet card plugged in and i did apt-get install pentanet-dev pentanet-utils |
| 02:41.05 | JaMaLz | and i can't find pentanet0 and no dev |
| 02:41.12 | Dasnipa` | excessive drinking causes irrational thought such as windows being useful for anything but game playing |
| 02:41.12 | assink | liberty: here in holland there is a policy for every drugs :P |
| 02:41.22 | nvz | susp3ct: I've never heard anyone cracking their skull from falling head first into a pile of cocain, so it must be nice and soft. though they usually end up with a nose bleed so I dont know.. could be debatable. I don't like cocain myself. just like the way it smells :P |
| 02:41.35 | Guerin | ... |
| 02:41.41 | dondelelcaro | nvz: I think most people like the way it smells... |
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| 02:41.45 | assink | but ehm people brb |
| 02:41.49 | assink | i have to smoke outside |
| 02:41.59 | susp3ct | nvz, good one lol ;) |
| 02:41.59 | assink | my parents dont like the smell of weed |
| 02:42.09 | assink | in their home |
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| 02:42.12 | nvz | I've never done cocain but I seen several hundred pounds /kilos whatever in a missle crate once |
| 02:42.15 | liberty | Dasnipa`: wonder what dubYa would say about that |
| 02:42.26 | JaMaLz | any one here around >?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
| 02:42.32 | Guerin | JaMaLz: no. |
| 02:42.36 | assink | bla cocain is bas |
| 02:42.38 | assink | bad |
| 02:42.38 | Tortel | Nope |
| 02:42.41 | assink | hard drugs are bad |
| 02:42.43 | liberty | bad |
| 02:42.44 | Tortel | Noone is ever here. |
| 02:42.46 | assink | soft drugs are good |
| 02:42.47 | Tortel | Ever. |
| 02:42.49 | liberty | exactly |
| 02:42.50 | susp3ct | cocain makes you strong |
| 02:42.51 | JaMaLz | Guerin: lol how are u. |
| 02:42.57 | assink | like mushrooms and weed |
| 02:43.02 | assink | those 2 are the best drugs there are |
| 02:43.09 | liberty | CS == retarded leaders |
| 02:43.16 | assink | hehe |
| 02:43.18 | assink | but ok |
| 02:43.18 | assink | brb |
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| 02:43.28 | JaMaLz | Guerin: isn't pentanet0 like eth0 |
| 02:43.55 | nvz | yeah me too as soon as I can figure out my dilemma |
| 02:43.56 | Guerin | JaMaLz: hell if I know |
| 02:44.06 | JaMaLz | Guerin: well what u know than >>>>????? |
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| 02:44.21 | susp3ct | guys, catch ya's all latah |
| 02:44.34 | Guerin | JaMaLz: Hey joe, whadaya know? |
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| 02:44.55 | mhall | dondelelcaro: but right now i do not have an xsession file |
| 02:45.00 | nvz | Hey joe, where you goin with that gun in your hand? |
| 02:45.03 | dondelelcaro | mhall: so make one... |
| 02:45.10 | dondelelcaro | mhall: or use an .xinitrd |
| 02:45.12 | mhall | liberty: 'oh man my neck hell of hurts' is a very norcal expression |
| 02:45.21 | JaMaLz | any one know about DVB cards. |
| 02:45.38 | nvz | they are used for digital video broadcasting |
| 02:45.40 | JaMaLz | Guerin: how to add a device |
| 02:45.45 | mhall | dondelelcaro: right, but once i do this, i need to figure out the proper commands to get my wm going |
| 02:45.46 | JaMaLz | is that better question <;4 |
| 02:45.47 | dondelelcaro | s/rd// |
| 02:45.48 | liberty | mhall, it's an ergonomic problem |
| 02:45.53 | mhall | dondelelcaro: or i'll ended grayscreened won't i |
| 02:46.01 | dondelelcaro | mhall: which is just 'exec yourwindowmanger' |
| 02:46.10 | dondelelcaro | hrm... a window manger... that's a new one. |
| 02:46.14 | mhall | liberty: was just seeing the 'hell of' / hella, and found it amusing |
| 02:46.30 | belrog | want to setup the best linux bridge |
| 02:46.31 | mhall | dondelelcaro: for kde, would this be startkde? |
| 02:46.38 | dondelelcaro | mhall: yes |
| 02:46.51 | liberty | mhall, bad typing on my pard don't equal an emergency on your part lol ;o) |
| 02:47.00 | dondelelcaro | mhall: or whatever startkde calls eventaully after it starts X |
| 02:47.00 | JaMaLz | how can i add a device manuallyh |
| 02:47.16 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: with mknod or using MAKEDEV |
| 02:47.24 | mhall | liberty: ? |
| 02:47.37 | mhall | dondelelcaro: ! i did not think it started X |
| 02:47.58 | dondelelcaro | mhall: *shrug*; I assumed it was the equivalent of startx for kde, but then again, I don't use kde at all. |
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| 02:48.13 | mhall | dondelelcaro: yeah you are right |
| 02:48.16 | mhall | dondelelcaro: it is |
| 02:48.41 | fugit | anyone have a good place to try and get help with quake4 on linux? I'm gettinga Seg Fault |
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| 02:48.59 | Guerin | fugit: ask idsoftware for support |
| 02:48.59 | JaMaLz | is there any gui for makedev |
| 02:49.10 | nvz | heh |
| 02:49.14 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: no; man MAKEDEV; then cd /dev; MAKEDEV yourdevice; |
| 02:49.18 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: nothing could be simpler. |
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| 02:49.47 | daedra | guys... i'm missing fsck.vfat... anyonw knows how can i get it?? any apt package? |
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| 02:49.58 | pfizur | Anyone on the best room for questions regarding configuring php for mysql that were installed from the debian packages? |
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| 02:50.01 | dondelelcaro | !tell daedra -about search |
| 02:50.07 | dondelelcaro | pfizur: just ask |
| 02:50.28 | JaMaLz | dondelelcaro: it says couldn't know how to make device |
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| 02:50.56 | N6REJ | I need some help with the interfaces command. I have the following configuration .... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3481 and I'm not seeing the hostnames of the assigned ips in the routing table as I'm used to seeing in linux. Now I've not used the /etc/network/interfaces type interface configuration format before. I've always entered everything in manually. Will someone please shed some light? |
| 02:51.00 | pfizur | I installed apache2, php4, and mysql from their packages. By default (it seems) mysql was not enabled. I'd like to enable support for mysql. |
| 02:51.00 | mhall | fugit: #1, it helps if you don't have a warez version |
| 02:51.08 | belrog | want to setup the best linux bridge which |
| 02:51.09 | dondelelcaro | pfizur: install php4-mysql |
| 02:51.21 | mhall | fugit: run it from gdb with gdb quake4, then set args <command line here> |
| 02:51.23 | fugit | mhall: I have the full version, I try and support anyone that makes linux games |
| 02:51.26 | mhall | fugit: then run |
| 02:51.36 | N6REJ | mhall: nice nic <--- Hall is my surname |
| 02:51.38 | pfizur | dondelelcaro, I did that still no joy |
| 02:51.40 | mhall | fugit: usually GDB will give you a more detailed error |
| 02:52.13 | mhall | N6REJ: ah-ha, would you like to join our family conspiracy to take over the world? i presume we could use your amateur radio skills for communications purposes ;-) |
| 02:52.14 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: ask in #ubuntu; they can provide you with ubuntu support. |
| 02:52.25 | dondelelcaro | pfizur: did you restart apache after doing that? |
| 02:52.28 | mhall | fugit: i was just giving you a hard time about #1 |
| 02:52.30 | pfizur | tup |
| 02:52.32 | pfizur | yup |
| 02:52.34 | mhall | fugit: i'm sarcastic like that ;-) |
| 02:52.41 | dondelelcaro | pfizur: did you check to make sure the mysql.so was enabled in your php.ini? |
| 02:52.47 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: not getting a straight answer there either... they are mostly geared towards the desktop world not server. |
| 02:52.48 | JaMaLz | dondelelcaro: didn't work |
| 02:52.59 | N6REJ | mhall: :D |
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| 02:53.08 | pfizur | indeed, even added in the path in the module_dir directive |
| 02:53.13 | fugit | mhall: np, if it were an MS game only you would have been right |
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| 02:53.17 | daedra | uhh... |
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| 02:53.19 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: indeed, but we're not in a position to support their distribution. |
| 02:53.25 | daedra | dondelelcaro that didn't work.... |
| 02:53.25 | mhall | fugit: lol |
| 02:53.32 | dondelelcaro | !doesn't work |
| 02:53.33 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 02:53.37 | assink | hm |
| 02:53.39 | assink | i am going to sleep |
| 02:53.40 | mhall | N6REJ: what's the question? |
| 02:53.41 | assink | bye |
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| 02:54.14 | N6REJ | mhall: look at this config will yah? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3481 notice that route is returning "default" as hostnames for each ip assigned to the nics? |
| 02:54.14 | daedra | dondelelcaro will do |
| 02:54.18 | mhall | fugit: i've had good luck with ut2k4 for linux, have not tried q4 yet, i doubt my hardware is sufficient |
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| 02:54.21 | N6REJ | mhall: thats just not kosher |
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| 02:54.25 | mhall | N6REJ: let me peek here |
| 02:54.25 | [KiLLA] | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.25 | [KiLLA] | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.25 | [KiLLA] | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.32 | daedra | dondelelcaro |
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| 02:54.45 | daedra | dpkg -S fsck.vfat showed nothing. |
| 02:54.45 | dpkg | Package: fsck.vfat showed nothing.: Status: install ok installed |
| 02:54.46 | fugit | yeah strange thing is doom3 runs fine |
| 02:54.54 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: you've got two default gateways there, which is kind of silly. |
| 02:54.54 | fugit | mhall: yeah strange thing is doom3 runs fine |
| 02:54.58 | N6REJ | mhall: thanks. *wonders if we're actually related* |
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| 02:55.12 | ryanium`` | killa is getting owned lol |
| 02:55.29 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: the 'default' lines just show the default gateway (IE, the gateway that is used when another route isn't already defined) |
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| 02:55.38 | mhall | N6REJ: hmm. could you do me a favor and try using eth0 and eth0:1 instead? |
| 02:55.38 | JaMaLz | dondelelcaro: can i added it through mknod |
| 02:55.52 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: I agree.. |
| 02:55.56 | N6REJ | mhall: sure.. brb. |
| 02:56.04 | mhall | N6REJ: i believe that what could be occurring is that you are applying settings to eth0 that overwrite previous settings on eth0 |
| 02:56.11 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: in any case, delete the 'gateway 192.168.2.1' line from the eth0:1 stanza; and ifdown eth0:0; ifup eth0:0 |
| 02:56.16 | mhall | N6REJ: so then what occurs is, you get two default routes |
| 02:56.18 | dondelelcaro | mhall: nah; he's just got two default gateways |
| 02:56.35 | IRCsloth | anyone here know anything about the bind9-query.log? I'd like to log recursive queries so I can graph them with rrdtool but I can't find the config parameter to tell bind9 to log them |
| 02:56.41 | dondelelcaro | (one is comming from dhcp, the other is being set manually) |
| 02:56.47 | mhall | N6REJ: also dondelelcaro is right in that the dhcp programs by default add default gateways to your route list |
| 02:56.52 | FliesLikeABrick | what is the name of the lame encoder i can get through apt (the command line one) |
| 02:57.02 | mhall | N6REJ: this behavior can be disabled in a dhcp client specific fashion |
| 02:57.04 | N6REJ | k, no change with just the eth0:1 |
| 02:57.11 | IRCsloth | debian generates the querylog in /var/log/ but isn't writing to it |
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| 02:57.16 | mhall | N6REJ: if in fact you do not wish to have a default route from dhcp |
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| 02:57.30 | mhall | N6REJ: which is a pretty rare case but can still happen nonetheless |
| 02:57.46 | madradrone | !tell FliesLikeABrick about search |
| 02:57.55 | N6REJ | mhall: ok, let me see how its doing now.... take me a second to c/p |
| 02:57.59 | Guerin | !lame |
| 02:57.59 | dpkg | hmm... lame is : Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder at http://www.mp3dev.org/ mirrored at http://lame.sourceforge.net/ which contains debian build instructions, to make your own debs from the tarballs. Versions 3.81 onwards are LGPL!. or don't forget to 'chmod +x debian/rules'. Get .debs from <marillat> or <rarewares> |
| 02:58.04 | Guerin | FliesLikeABrick: ^ |
| 02:58.10 | FliesLikeABrick | madradrone, i looked in apt but only found glame |
| 02:58.11 | FliesLikeABrick | thanks |
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| 02:58.59 | dondelelcaro | !tell solemnwarning -about away |
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| 02:59.34 | madradrone | !tell FliesLikeABrick about marillat |
| 02:59.34 | mhall | Guerin: what was the license on lame pre-3.81? |
| 02:59.47 | Guerin | mhall: dunno. |
| 02:59.49 | mhall | Guerin: and why are we allowed to rel decoders with the dist but not encoders |
| 02:59.55 | JaMaLz | dondelelcaro: what if i changed my debian stable to testing i mean the sources.list |
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| 03:00.00 | JaMaLz | does it make any differance |
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| 03:00.23 | Guerin | mhall: fraunhofer claimed to be enforcing their patents only on encoding implementations |
| 03:00.57 | N6REJ | mhall: ok... now this is very strange... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3482 perhaps I've made a very basic error in assumption. |
| 03:00.59 | Guerin | mhall: they've since decided that they'll enforce decoding implementations too, but debian appears not to be worried about it. |
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| 03:01.33 | N6REJ | mhall: I made the assumption that I did NOT neet to run the ifconfig command or route command initially from the command line to add the virtual nic? |
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| 03:02.07 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: that looks fine... |
| 03:02.07 | N6REJ | mhall: that simply adding the info to the /etc/network/interfaces file was sufficient. |
| 03:02.27 | Guerin | hrm, when's the fraunhofer patent going to expire? |
| 03:02.28 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: why does eth0:1 not show up in the routing table now? |
| 03:02.39 | Guerin | i swear I've been using mp3 more than severn years |
| 03:02.42 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: and still no hostnames |
| 03:02.45 | mtnman | n6rej: changes made to the file do not take effect until networking is restarted. |
| 03:02.46 | Guerin | s/ern/en/ |
| 03:03.08 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: 1) because those hostnames don't reverse 2) because there aren't any routes on eth0:1 that need to be there. |
| 03:03.09 | N6REJ | mtnman: yah, I said "/etc/init.d/networking restart" after I made the changes |
| 03:03.28 | mtnman | hey don |
| 03:03.37 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: sup... enjoying the snow? |
| 03:03.41 | snackalot | Anyone knowhow to get sound with XFCE |
| 03:03.52 | mtnman | don: been kinda warm. no snow lately... |
| 03:04.04 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: there was a faint powdering in bigbear when I was there last weekend |
| 03:04.04 | Guerin | snackalot: sound has nothing to do with xfce4. What card, what kernel? |
| 03:04.17 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: ok, on the 1st, but I suspect thats going to be a problem with mail. but I'm not quite clear on the 2nd.... are you saying that because there is no app calling for the route yet, that it isn't appearing in the routing table? |
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| 03:04.33 | mhall | Guerin: patents are 17 years i think |
| 03:04.41 | Guerin | mhall: oh :( |
| 03:04.47 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: no, because there doesn't need to be one; generally only physical interfaces get routes |
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| 03:04.54 | perdenab_ | whee, i just installed windows updates via IE on my debian system |
| 03:04.56 | mtnman | don: the hills are still all white, and there is a pile of snow behind a tree in my yard, but the snow in town is melted, for the most part. |
| 03:04.56 | mhall | N6REJ: you are right about the virtual interface issue |
| 03:05.11 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: ok... but I do have a problem with my "reverse dns" issue? |
| 03:05.20 | Guerin | mtnman: heh. There was ice on the ground here yesterday at 1500 |
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| 03:05.29 | snackalot | guerin ubuntu hedghog sis sound y do i have sound with gnome and not with xfce |
| 03:05.33 | mhall | N6REJ: they autocreate themselvs when configured |
| 03:05.33 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: not necessarily; non-resolving names aren't really a big deal because your non-private IPs will reverse. |
| 03:05.33 | Guerin | mtnman: where are you? rocky mountains? |
| 03:05.42 | Guerin | snackalot: ask #ubuntu |
| 03:05.46 | mhall | !tell snackalot about ubuntu |
| 03:05.52 | mtnman | guerin: yeah |
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| 03:06.07 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: I'm nat'd everything is behind the router/firewall I running it on dsl |
| 03:06.09 | snackalot | thats what i use |
| 03:06.13 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: FE: 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wireless |
| 03:06.19 | Guerin | mtnman: i'm only a couple hundred metres above sea level, but this feels like the roof o' the world to a beach bum like me |
| 03:06.28 | mtnman | heh |
| 03:06.35 | mhall | snackalot: ask them. not us. we can't help. we use a different OS called debian. |
| 03:06.35 | snackalot | thanks |
| 03:06.37 | mhall | snackalot: FFS |
| 03:06.47 | Guerin | yay |
| 03:06.55 | mtnman | guerin: i haven't set foot on a beach in 2 or 3 years... |
| 03:06.56 | Guerin | rootsnculture time! |
| 03:06.56 | snackalot | Aint it all |
| 03:07.06 | Guerin | mtnman: how old were you before you saw the ocean? |
| 03:07.19 | mtnman | guerin: i grew up on the east coast |
| 03:07.24 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: ok. as long as y'all are sure everything is ok... just not what I'm used to seeing... when I was an ISP they always resolved to hostnames. Now I'm NOT running bind locally. my registrar is providing that service for me. |
| 03:07.36 | Guerin | mtnman: ah yeah. |
| 03:08.06 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: right, but in those cases, you've got dns servers set up to reverse. In normal tiny network setups, it's not worth the hassle to get them to reverse at all. |
| 03:08.11 | Guerin | it freaks me out that some folks haven't seen the sea |
| 03:08.15 | neil | Hi, I upgraded my debian install last night, now kmail wont run. There is an error message 'DCOP aborting ...' can anyone help? |
| 03:08.30 | astronut | neil: try restarting x |
| 03:08.38 | Guerin | i knew a person from kansas who, until a month earlier when she'd come to korea, had never seen the sea, or a mountain, or eaten sea fish. |
| 03:08.41 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: it's just like a big cup of water right? |
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| 03:08.48 | neil | astronut: just started the computer. |
| 03:08.50 | N6REJ | dondelelcaro: OK! Now I understand. TY!!! its been many years since i've done this, and alot of my knowledge has degraded, and unfortunately will never return. |
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| 03:08.55 | astronut | neil: hmm |
| 03:08.55 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: pretty big, yeah. |
| 03:08.56 | dondelelcaro | N6REJ: np |
| 03:08.59 | astronut | run it in a terminal |
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| 03:09.01 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: ;) |
| 03:09.08 | astronut | so you can see the stdout |
| 03:09.10 | N6REJ | ty guys.. have a good evening... |
| 03:09.13 | astronut | errm stderr |
| 03:09.16 | Ronin | TwistedEmotions: big cup of salty water |
| 03:09.17 | N6REJ | mhall: keep the name going :D |
| 03:09.25 | neil | astronut: done that to get the error message. |
| 03:09.31 | astronut | neil: hmm |
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| 03:09.35 | astronut | i don't know kde that well |
| 03:09.47 | neil | astronut: running in gnome |
| 03:09.55 | Tortel | Night all! |
| 03:10.00 | astronut | neil: ok, but dcop and kmail are both kde things |
| 03:10.01 | TwistedEmotions | Ronin: and with the Pacific... big cup of salty, cold, poluted water.. |
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| 03:10.24 | astronut | neil: pgrep kde\|dcop | xargs kill then try it |
| 03:10.28 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: pacific is less polluted than the atlantic |
| 03:10.29 | Ronin | pretty warm i find and really is it any mor poluted then anythign else? |
| 03:10.46 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: I feel bad for the atlantic then ;( |
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| 03:10.50 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: once you get away from the US coast |
| 03:11.21 | Ronin | damn beers just not helping the typing i see tonight, burp |
| 03:11.33 | TwistedEmotions | ;P Damn Bush.. |
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| 03:12.08 | findmel | beer gives belly , drink whiskey |
| 03:12.13 | neil | astronut: I don't understand the comman 'pgrep kde' returns nothing |
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| 03:12.32 | astronut | neil: ps -ef | grep kde shows what? |
| 03:12.32 | JaMaLz | where are the linux source dir ? |
| 03:12.40 | astronut | JaMaLz: /usr/src/linux |
| 03:12.41 | findmel | JaMaLz, /usr/src/ |
| 03:13.06 | JaMaLz | and if nothing there i do apt-get source linux-image-xxx |
| 03:13.16 | astronut | kernel-source-xxx it hink |
| 03:13.23 | astronut | image is binary only |
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| 03:13.41 | astronut | the apt-get source gets you the package but it puts it in $PWD |
| 03:13.41 | neil | astronut: "ps -ef | grep kde" shows nothing |
| 03:13.46 | astronut | neil: try dcop? |
| 03:13.48 | astronut | none of that? |
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| 03:13.49 | findmel | JaMaLz, apt-get install kernel-source.2.4.27 |
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| 03:14.18 | JaMaLz | aha |
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| 03:14.42 | neil | astronut: "dcop" returns "Couldn't attach to DCOP server!" -- by the way what is DCOP |
| 03:14.46 | JxPx | hi |
| 03:14.50 | JaMaLz | ok thanks |
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| 03:14.54 | astronut | neil: kde interproccess communications i'm pretty sure |
| 03:14.54 | Serialkiller | so anyone have or know of a good tutiorail for adding users to the linux box by web interface? i need to write one to add cutomers to my box |
| 03:14.55 | Guerin | neil: a method for processes to talk to each other |
| 03:14.57 | astronut | !dcop |
| 03:14.58 | dpkg | [dcop] Desktop COmmunication Protocol -- Faster, nicer, and cooler than you'd ever want! |
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| 03:15.08 | Guerin | neil: what brance of debian? |
| 03:15.16 | luddite | dpkg nvidia |
| 03:15.16 | dpkg | nvidia is probably DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 03:15.29 | thewoz | I am having a serious problem getting ProFTPD up and running... I'm getting an error: "getaddrinfo [hostname] error: Temporary failure in name resolution" does anyone know what this means? |
| 03:15.33 | neil | Guerin: lastest "testing" |
| 03:15.44 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: fix your /etc/hosts file |
| 03:15.45 | luddite | dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 03:15.45 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 03:15.53 | Guerin | neil: ask #debian-kde or check the BTS |
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| 03:16.03 | Guerin | thewoz: fix your /etc/hosts file |
| 03:16.07 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: sorry |
| 03:16.21 | neil | Guerin: BTS ? |
| 03:16.27 | Guerin | neil: see topic |
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| 03:16.40 | thewoz | in what way? I have it to read the local host line, then the line with my assigned ip and name... |
| 03:16.45 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: for ipmasq or whatever? |
| 03:16.50 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: ignore me |
| 03:16.57 | Guerin | tman hosts |
| 03:17.02 | Guerin | thewoz: man hosts |
| 03:17.04 | TwistedEmotions | /ignore Guerin |
| 03:17.07 | astronut | neil: bug tracking system |
| 03:17.09 | TwistedEmotions | ;P done. |
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| 03:17.18 | astronut | !bts |
| 03:17.19 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 03:17.36 | astronut | neil: i think #debian-kde might be your best bet |
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| 03:17.54 | neil | astronut: thanks for that, I will try #debian-kde |
| 03:18.16 | mhall | thewoz: where did you get your nick from? |
| 03:18.27 | astronut | the wizard of oz? |
| 03:19.09 | astronut | lol |
| 03:19.09 | astronut | no |
| 03:19.19 | astronut | mhall: look at REALNAME field |
| 03:19.25 | astronut | "Matt Wozniak" |
| 03:19.51 | thewoz | my name |
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| 03:20.58 | mhall | thewoz: any relation to the one of apple fame? |
| 03:21.09 | thewoz | sadly, no |
| 03:21.10 | astronut | hmmm |
| 03:21.13 | mhall | thewoz: i asked originally because usually the woz was his nickname |
| 03:21.15 | astronut | that link in !bts is broken |
| 03:21.39 | thewoz | well, almost anyone with the last name wozniak gets the nick woz- |
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| 03:21.48 | lskdjs | Hello, I like debian |
| 03:21.52 | mhall | thewoz: one of the original apple chips, the floppy controller, was apparently called the woz glue logic chip |
| 03:22.02 | astronut | ..... |
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| 03:22.06 | mhall | that was very random |
| 03:22.13 | mhall | join. hello, i like debian. quit. |
| 03:22.15 | astronut | yes |
| 03:22.27 | nvz | gnaa testing.. 1.. 2.. 3 |
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| 03:23.50 | mhall | nvz: i tried to join but i missed frist psot by a couple seconds |
| 03:23.58 | lui | anyone can help me with some X problems please? |
| 03:24.02 | nvz | oh well |
| 03:24.08 | mhall | nvz: i'll get it eventually |
| 03:24.27 | neil | Is there another mail program that will work on gnome that uses the same email format as kmail? |
| 03:24.42 | thewoz | Is there a certain alias that I need next to my hostname in my /etc/hosts file that will get ProFTPD working right... I've man'd everything but i dont know what Im doing wrong |
| 03:24.43 | mhall | nvz: one thing that was never clear to me was, how do they verify you are the legit owner of a particular frist psot? |
| 03:24.54 | nvz | mhall: are you gay are you ... |
| 03:25.06 | nvz | ... then maybe the GNAA is right for you :P |
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| 03:25.25 | mhall | nvz: one time the very mention of the slogan nearly got me removed from here for a month |
| 03:25.29 | Guerin | neil: any of them. you'll need to copy the mbox files out of your kmail dir and point your new mail client to them, but that's easily enough done |
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| 03:25.38 | mhall | nvz: i had no idea that gnaa was so controversial |
| 03:25.55 | nvz | I didnt know it was real |
| 03:25.58 | mhall | thewoz: please consider looking in /var/log for useful error messages |
| 03:26.03 | nvz | untill just recently |
| 03:26.10 | neil | Guerin: Do you have any sugestions? |
| 03:26.21 | Guerin | neil: sylpheed-claws-gtk2 |
| 03:26.28 | Guerin | neil: or mozilla thunderbird |
| 03:26.30 | mhall | nvz: it is. they are famous for corrupting wikipedia pages that get slashdotted so that users will inadvertently witness shock images such as goatse |
| 03:26.59 | nvz | mhall: they could do something useful like attack people who dont believe in internet security |
| 03:27.18 | lui | anyone can help me please? |
| 03:27.26 | mhall | nvz: they actually do tend to attack targets that are hypocritically vulnerable |
| 03:27.29 | nvz | make them realize what happens when stupids organize online |
| 03:27.32 | astronut | neil: try mutt (console) or mozilla-thunderbird |
| 03:27.36 | Guerin | lui: state your problems |
| 03:28.02 | mhall | nvz: and despite the claims by wikipedia that gnaa is not a worthwhile topic for a wikipedia article, they were somewhat forced to allow gnaa an article |
| 03:28.14 | mhall | nvz: through which i discovered something hilarious about gnaa |
| 03:28.24 | mhall | nvz: they actually do something productive for the internet |
| 03:28.40 | mhall | nvz: they run an anime fansub site called dattebayo that subs naruto |
| 03:28.43 | neil | Guerin: I have a look (mozilla-thunderbird probally) |
| 03:28.56 | neil | astronut: I have a look (mozilla-thunderbird probally) |
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| 03:28.58 | mhall | nvz: and on weeks when the show does not air in japan, they release YHBT releases |
| 03:28.59 | lui | Guerin, my X's doesn't start, I have the report log. |
| 03:29.11 | mhall | nvz: which instead of containing an XVID of an episode |
| 03:29.11 | dondelelcaro | mhall: no, it's just that one of the people who is involved in gnaa is involved in datebayeo |
| 03:29.20 | mhall | nvz: contain various shock images |
| 03:29.20 | thewoz | ah, ok- I think that the problem that I am running into is that proftp is attempting to resolve my domain name via DNS... My linux box is on my Lan w/ no internet access so I have my DNS servers listed as 127.0.0.1 in my /etc/resolv.conf file... would that be a probelm? |
| 03:29.28 | JaMaLz | whats the tar command for file.tar.bz2 |
| 03:29.52 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: tar jxf foo... |
| 03:29.55 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: man tar |
| 03:30.01 | mhall | dondelelcaro: but credit for site design is given to gnaa, and i thought there were more members of gnaa involved than just the more famous one |
| 03:30.02 | nvz | JaMaLz: you need bzip2 packaeg and its j instead of z |
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| 03:30.59 | dondelelcaro | mhall: who knows? I think it may be a case of one person starting it, and then various lamers following along |
| 03:31.04 | lsdkj | . |
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| 03:31.17 | lui | Guerin, check the last lines: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3483 |
| 03:31.31 | mhall | dondelelcaro: by lamers following along, do you mean following along to join gnaa or dattebayo? |
| 03:32.00 | Guerin | lui: are you using ubuntu? |
| 03:32.13 | dondelelcaro | mhall: gnaa |
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| 03:32.21 | nvz | mhall: maybe he is saying gay minds think alike. :P |
| 03:32.59 | lsdkj | I just installed debian for the first time...and I did the netinstall...I have gdm xserver-xorg and xfonts-base installed...and xfce4...when I start the computer to start X, i get "no screens found" and it says stuff about /*/*"libGL" symbols missing |
| 03:33.03 | lsdkj | Anyone have any idea why X doesn't work? |
| 03:33.18 | Guerin | !noscreensfound |
| 03:33.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 03:33.41 | duglas | I am pasting an error message in #flood. Can anyone tell me what it means |
| 03:33.51 | Guerin | !tell lsdkj about set up x |
| 03:33.58 | lui | I'm using ubuntu now to talk to you and the pastebin to show you the problem but I'm trying to run Debian in another hardrive. |
| 03:34.00 | mhall | dondelelcaro: i'd almost argue that if you make it to gnaa you are by definition not a lamer |
| 03:34.08 | lui | Guerin, I'm using ubuntu now to talk to you and the pastebin to show you the problem but I'm trying to run Debian in another hardrive. |
| 03:34.13 | mhall | dondelelcaro: just because of the work involved |
| 03:34.14 | dondelelcaro | mhall: who says anything about anyone making it into them? |
| 03:34.25 | Guerin | lui: how does your mouse plug in? |
| 03:34.32 | nvz | duglas: means you md driver for your lvm or raid isnt there or loading |
| 03:34.32 | dondelelcaro | mhall: and lamers still spend as much time being lame as anyone... |
| 03:34.33 | mhall | dondelelcaro: not sure i got your drift on that question; sorry |
| 03:34.43 | lui | Guerin, ps2 |
| 03:34.46 | nvz | I hate when that happens |
| 03:34.50 | Guerin | !drxx lui |
| 03:34.52 | duglas | I got no lvm or raid!! |
| 03:34.53 | dpkg | lui: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 03:35.10 | nvz | I've been playing with lvm a little but I cant seem to get it working with anything but debians kernels |
| 03:35.10 | Guerin | lui: choose ExplorerPS/2 and /dev/input/mice |
| 03:35.12 | dondelelcaro | mhall: it's the same thing as any gang; people not actually in the gang will claim it for the cachet and/or the protection that it brings. |
| 03:35.56 | BobABowie | What do I need to do to enable netem on a new 2.6 kernel install? |
| 03:36.03 | mhall | BobABowie: netem? |
| 03:36.07 | mhall | !tell me about netem |
| 03:36.21 | lui | Guerin, ok. anything more? |
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| 03:36.53 | Guerin | lui: that should be enough. if it faile, choose imps/2 and /dev/psaux |
| 03:37.13 | BobABowie | network emulation package used with current version of iproute2 |
| 03:37.33 | BobABowie | controlled by command line tool 'tc' |
| 03:37.38 | lui | Guerin, thank you very much :) |
| 03:37.41 | lui | bye |
| 03:38.43 | BobABowie | The doc says it is installed by default in 2.6 distros |
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| 03:45.22 | JaMaLz | if it says couldn;t run GLIB test |
| 03:45.28 | JaMaLz | what shell i do to get Glib |
| 03:45.42 | victor | donde encuentro doom3-linux-1.1.1286.x86.run ???? |
| 03:45.59 | dondelelcaro | victor: ask in #debian-es |
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| 03:46.28 | victor | what its the password ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/ |
| 03:46.58 | zinx | there is no password |
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| 03:50.57 | ozzloy | gnome foot -> desktop preferences -> resolution |
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| 03:51.48 | JaMaLz | i wanna copy my harddisk to another harddisk so i can move between hards what software to user |
| 03:51.52 | JaMaLz | i wanna copy my harddisk to another harddisk so i can move between hards what software to use |
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| 03:52.10 | Wyzard | cp? |
| 03:52.19 | madradrone | JaMaLz: what? |
| 03:52.20 | ozzloy | scp? |
| 03:52.27 | Wyzard | though it's not quite that straightforward |
| 03:52.37 | amphi | JaMaLz: cp -a |
| 03:52.46 | JaMaLz | amphi: does it copy boot etc ? |
| 03:53.03 | ozzloy | ah, a ghoster |
| 03:53.07 | amphi | JaMaLz: yeah - it won't install a boot loader though |
| 03:53.08 | JaMaLz | i mean if i put the secound hard disk as pri does it run every thing like the original |
| 03:53.20 | JaMaLz | i want to clone my hd |
| 03:53.36 | amphi | JaMaLz: if the disks are identical, you could use dd |
| 03:53.55 | JaMaLz | any software that move them |
| 03:53.55 | grendal_prime | i really need to work this out its driving me bonkers..i thougt it was only on the laptop but the other workstatoin here is having the same problem. |
| 03:54.08 | madradrone | JaMaLz: no. you need to preferably mount the disk with a rescue cd, mount all partitions to some root mount point, then scp or rsync all the filesystems to another disk, then you have to make sure fstab agrees with the new disk, and also install bootloader to mbr of new disk |
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| 03:54.27 | grendal_prime | /dev/dsp seems to be the heart of this problem...both machines are set up with a kde desktop and the sound system is set to alsa sound |
| 03:54.58 | Wyzard | grendal_prime: What's the problem? |
| 03:55.04 | JaMaLz | madradrone: i heard about norton ghost did that but its not free. |
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| 03:55.10 | grendal_prime | when i launch an application that needs to use /dev/dsp, it flat out does not work...well not for recording anyway |
| 03:55.12 | madradrone | JaMaLz: fuck ghost |
| 03:55.18 | silverwolf | Is it just me, or is monodevelop removed from apt? |
| 03:55.31 | grendal_prime | im trying to get squawkbox to work with x-plane |
| 03:55.32 | Wyzard | grendal_prime: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 03:55.40 | madradrone | JaMaLz: use knoppix. create /source then mount / on disk to /source /boot to /source/boot etc. |
| 03:55.42 | JaMaLz | madradrone: i can't loose that stuff over my hard drive |
| 03:55.42 | grendal_prime | now x-plane runs sound output ok |
| 03:55.49 | astronut | silverwolf: just you |
| 03:55.58 | Wyzard | grendal_prime: /dev/dsp is the OSS sound device... to use it with ALSA, you have to load that module |
| 03:56.06 | JaMaLz | madradrone: i know how to do these things. its just i want to clone it with every thing for not loosing the data |
| 03:56.08 | madradrone | JaMaLz: then mount on target disk /source, etc. |
| 03:56.09 | grendal_prime | o |
| 03:56.19 | silverwolf | astronut, oki... what the .... is wrong then... :) Im running unstable and pulling from ftp.debian.org. it should be there |
| 03:56.20 | madradrone | JaMaLz: then rsync -av /source /target |
| 03:56.28 | astronut | silverwolf: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/monodevelop |
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| 03:56.30 | silverwolf | IT IS :D |
| 03:56.30 | grendal_prime | i get nothing back |
| 03:56.30 | astronut | it's there for me |
| 03:56.53 | silverwolf | astronut, oki. I found it by just entering the packet... it seemed that the list wassent properly updated |
| 03:56.54 | JaMaLz | madradrone: the source doesn't have rsync |
| 03:56.56 | Wyzard | JaMaLz: If your goal is just to make a backup, why does it need to be bootable itself? |
| 03:56.59 | madradrone | JaMaLz: then run lilo or grub-install on the new disk to make it bootable. also make sure fstab agrees with partition layout of new disk |
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| 03:57.15 | Wyzard | JaMaLz: You could just tar up your whole system into a big file on the other drive, for example |
| 03:57.21 | JaMaLz | Wyzard: i wanna save a backup incase any thing happenes |
| 03:57.23 | madradrone | JaMaLz: use knoppix. it does. you don't want to copy over a running filesystem |
| 03:57.44 | JaMaLz | so i have to download knoppix |
| 03:57.44 | Wyzard | JaMaLz: Right, but a backup doesn't need to be a bootable installation |
| 03:57.49 | Jules | I just installed debian on my system, I have an nvidia card...and I installed xserver-xorg xfonts-base and gdm...when it tries to load gdm...I get an error that says "no screens found" and it also has lines about /*/*/libGLcore symbols not found or something like that. |
| 03:57.53 | Jules | Anyone have any idea what is wrong? |
| 03:58.20 | grendal_prime | Wyzard, i have the alsa oss pkg installed |
| 03:58.21 | madradrone | it might be good to have a fully-bootable backup |
| 03:58.28 | astronut | Jules: didn't dondelelcaro deal with you? |
| 03:58.32 | astronut | !no screens found |
| 03:58.32 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 03:58.37 | JaMaLz | Wyzard: i can do that but i want incase i did load it to be bootable not to reconfigure it |
| 03:58.39 | grendal_prime | and if i modprob it..it comes back with nothing..wich if i remember right is good |
| 03:58.44 | madradrone | then you just incrementally sync over the directories with changed data from time-to-time |
| 03:58.46 | Jules | astronut: Did he? |
| 03:58.51 | Jules | Can you past what he said...I lost my cache |
| 03:58.53 | astronut | Jules: or are you someone different? |
| 03:59.36 | madradrone | JaMaLz: search around for "rsync mirror" or "rsync disk mirror" on google. |
| 04:00.23 | grendal_prime | ! oss |
| 04:00.23 | dpkg | somebody said oss was an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 04:00.27 | astronut | ..i think this is that same troll again... |
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| 04:03.25 | ecobian | hey i just noticed that oo.org2 is in unstable now |
| 04:03.32 | ecobian | and i found this website that has oo.org2 |
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| 04:04.03 | message_ | can someone please recommend a free domain which supports php? |
| 04:04.14 | ecobian | http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/2.x |
| 04:04.14 | ecobian | how do i get that? |
| 04:04.15 | ecobian | from that website? |
| 04:04.15 | message_ | i mean free webspace |
| 04:04.31 | jdhutchin1 | message_, you get what you pay for |
| 04:05.06 | victor | the server is full ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/ ?????? |
| 04:05.21 | message_ | jdhutchin1: that wasnt an answer |
| 04:05.26 | zinx | victor: it's busy. probably people downloading quake4 |
| 04:05.43 | zinx | victor: try http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/ for torrents of any binaries you may be looking for |
| 04:06.37 | ShorTie | are the warning messages during the compiling process logged somewhere |
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| 04:09.54 | grendal_prime | victor, that is suprising to you? |
| 04:10.03 | grendal_prime | on a saturday night |
| 04:10.21 | grendal_prime | lots of geeks....so frew geek chicks = lots of doom downloads |
| 04:11.15 | fugit | shit weather in new york + wife watching shit tv = me on computer |
| 04:11.36 | bannedit | yea cold lately |
| 04:11.52 | grendal_prime | ecobian, you ummm...know of any advantages to the new oo? |
| 04:12.28 | victor | thank you zinx and grendal_prime |
| 04:12.55 | grendal_prime | i wish i could use it with fish and i could save php files with actual php tags in them without oo fucking them all up |
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| 04:13.16 | grendal_prime | if the new one has that id figer out how to get that file |
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| 04:13.29 | varsendagger | what do you make of |
| 04:13.31 | varsendagger | The GNOME python bindings aren't (correctly) installed! |
| 04:13.32 | varsendagger | Install this package, exiting!\ |
| 04:13.40 | Jules | How can I get a file from my hdd onto a channel with irssi? |
| 04:13.48 | Jules | I have my Xorg.0.log file..>I want to paste it to #flood |
| 04:13.51 | Jules | But I don't know how. |
| 04:13.55 | dondelelcaro | Jules: use the paster bot instead. |
| 04:14.01 | dondelelcaro | !tell Jules -about paster |
| 04:14.05 | luddite | i'm having probs w/ apt-get install udev... how do i resolve these dependancies it's asking for hotplug, udev, libgnome2-perl but all have dependancies on each other |
| 04:14.22 | Jules | dondelelcaro: I do'nt know how to paste without X |
| 04:14.32 | grendal_prime | luddite, try using aptitude |
| 04:14.38 | Jules | I can't get gdm to work with my xorg/nvidia card |
| 04:14.42 | dondelelcaro | Jules: then /exec -o cat foofile; |
| 04:14.46 | Jules | It won't load...xorg gives me errors |
| 04:14.47 | grendal_prime | its really good about flaggin that sort of crap and taking care of it for you |
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| 04:14.56 | Jules | dondelelcaro: in #flood? |
| 04:15.22 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrr |
| 04:15.42 | grendal_prime | im starting to wonder if i should see if arts will work this sound problem out |
| 04:16.06 | grendal_prime | it would really be nice if i could get these two apps working |
| 04:16.36 | ttick | When you install "java-package" and the jdk this way, what is JAVA_HOME supposed to be set to? |
| 04:17.14 | Wyzard | ttick: You don't need to set JAVA_HOME manually |
| 04:17.52 | ttick | Wyzard: oh, strange. |
| 04:17.54 | varsendagger | The GNOME python bindings aren't (correctly) installed! |
| 04:18.04 | ttick | Wyzard: okay, thanks. |
| 04:18.05 | luddite | aptitutde ok i'll tr |
| 04:18.09 | varsendagger | --- how do i determine how to fix this problem? |
| 04:18.23 | Wyzard | ttick: Installing the .deb that java-package builds is all you need |
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| 04:23.18 | ttick | Wyzard: okay. I'm installing ant/junit/eclipse and others from tar (since the deb versions are soooo way behind). And thus wasn't sure if that was going to cause a problem. |
| 04:23.35 | grelli | alright, quick poll for the IT workers of the room |
| 04:23.43 | grelli | which is worse, bat-belt or man purse? |
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| 04:23.59 | ttick | grelli: bat-belt |
| 04:24.21 | ttick | grelli: if the man-purse is of sufficient girth, it can pass as a courier-bag. |
| 04:25.24 | grelli | I'm looking at a semi-tactical bag thing |
| 04:26.08 | ttick | grelli: the belt-bag makes you look like you're a Russian tourist. |
| 04:26.16 | Lanix | is there any way to play quake on debian , is there a pkg for it ? |
| 04:26.44 | grelli | ttick: yeah, fanny pack == no |
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| 04:28.36 | nathan_ | gnome is giving errors unable to load any images unrecognised file format, anyone any idea what could be screwed |
| 04:28.37 | Guerin | ttick: hah, that's funny, in the rest of the world we think it makes you look like an american tourist |
| 04:29.16 | ttick | Guerin: german tourist, french tourist . . . they all look about the same -- fish out of water. |
| 04:29.29 | Guerin | ttick: right. |
| 04:29.46 | Jules | dondelelcaro: Did you see what I pasted in #flood? |
| 04:29.54 | Jules | dondelelcaro: here? |
| 04:29.57 | Jules | How do I get my font server running in debian/ |
| 04:29.59 | Jules | What is the apt-get package for my font server? |
| 04:30.02 | Jules | I don't think I have it installed. |
| 04:30.04 | Jules | Guerin: What is the apt-get package name for the fonts server? |
| 04:30.17 | Guerin | !tell Jules about set up x |
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| 04:30.42 | quiet | is there a way to change the text color on the main gnome toolbar? for the menus and time/date? |
| 04:31.18 | Guerin | quiet: #gnome irc.gnome.org |
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| 04:31.43 | quiet | ahh... is that why #gnome here on freenode we such asses? |
| 04:31.46 | quiet | ;) |
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| 04:36.29 | graeme | quiet: you can just rightclick on it |
| 04:36.41 | graeme | the only thing that doesn't do good colour-changing is the notification area |
| 04:36.58 | quiet | yeah... you can set transparency of the bar... not text color |
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| 04:37.24 | kurumin | hey, sure? |
| 04:37.30 | graeme | grelli: the purse is better than the bat-belt |
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| 04:38.00 | grelli | graeme: that's my leaning |
| 04:38.11 | grelli | but those of the female persuasion seem to differ |
| 04:38.16 | graeme | grelli: 'gadgbo' |
| 04:38.18 | Hugo | whO? |
| 04:38.43 | grelli | eh? |
| 04:38.58 | graeme | gadgetbag => gadgebo |
| 04:39.06 | grelli | ah |
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| 04:41.32 | graeme | grelli, 'women' as a group have about as much concensus as 'men' which is to say that don't let your ideas of what ladies think influence your decision in the bat-belt vs purse. |
| 04:42.05 | graeme | grelli: i'd say that it's good to keep one think on the belt, (the knife) and the rest go in the bag. |
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| 04:43.30 | grelli | graeme: yeah, I don't think I'd feel whole without my leatherman on my hip |
| 04:43.33 | Guerin | knife, torch, broken stick of PC133, horse amulet, keys, bulldog clips, etc. |
| 04:43.59 | Guerin | knife doubles as a screwdriver and beer opener, so that's a bonus |
| 04:44.06 | brosioz | a good site to find torrent file ? |
| 04:44.11 | MrNaz | broken stick of PC133? |
| 04:44.12 | Guerin | brosioz: google.com |
| 04:44.25 | Guerin | MrNaz: yeah. They come with convenient holes in the corner |
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| 04:44.46 | MrNaz | [DRAM stick of Memory] Held in off-hand. +6 Intellect. |
| 04:44.53 | Guerin | haha |
| 04:45.13 | MrNaz | i play that game WAAY too much |
| 04:45.17 | MrNaz | hehe |
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| 04:49.15 | findmel | w00t configured my laptop with debian in less than 5 hours. |
| 04:49.23 | findmel | wireless too. Linksys WPC11 |
| 04:50.03 | findmel | its' not me that is getting better, it is the linux that is getting much smarter. |
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| 04:52.30 | |XO4| | i'm using start-start-daemon...and it start the process but it doesnt write the pid file |
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| 04:53.33 | helpme2 | help! konq & ff are behaving as if im offline! wont load any pages!! |
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| 04:54.03 | bob2 | helpme2: ah) #ubuntu |
| 04:54.13 | bob2 | helpme2: also, picking a less dumb nick might encourage people to help you |
| 04:54.26 | mihai_ | dondelelcaro: You here? |
| 04:54.33 | helpme2 | bob2: i thought u ppl were helpful....... |
| 04:54.40 | bob2 | helpme2: are you using Debian? |
| 04:54.42 | bob2 | helpme2: no? |
| 04:54.44 | bob2 | helpme2: then wrong channel |
| 04:54.51 | bob2 | helpme2: we don't support windows XP here, tiehr |
| 04:54.54 | Guerin | helpme2: we are helpful. |
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| 04:55.03 | helpme2 | bob2: its not distro-specific question |
| 04:55.08 | bob2 | helpme2: sure it is |
| 04:55.14 | Guerin | helpme2: how the hell would you know? |
| 04:55.28 | helpme2 | it concerns that command pppoeconf |
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| 04:56.25 | helpme2 | hellooooooooooooooooo |
| 04:56.40 | helpme2 | it concerns usr/sbin/pppoeconf..... |
| 04:56.44 | graeme | what's a konq |
| 04:56.50 | brosioz | wow |
| 04:57.07 | brosioz | i've upgrade now openoffice to 2.0 on sid :DD |
| 04:57.25 | Guerin | helpme2: ask #ubuntu, we don't care |
| 04:57.44 | Guerin | helpme2: and read man pppoeconf |
| 04:57.53 | jlmb | brosioz: flawless upgrade? I'm download right now. |
| 04:58.15 | helpme2 | plz help if u know....why reject someone bcoz of taste etc....ur behaving like religious ppl |
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| 04:58.26 | bob2 | helpme2: holy fuck |
| 04:58.29 | bob2 | helpme2: stop being such a moron |
| 04:58.36 | brosioz | jlmb, yes all ok! |
| 04:58.40 | bob2 | helpme2: you politely told where to go |
| 04:58.45 | bob2 | helpme2: then you got an answer anyway |
| 04:58.56 | bob2 | helpme2: and you're still using an idiotic nick, and bitching that no one will help you |
| 04:59.06 | Dasnipa` | helpme2, are you a recovering windows user? |
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| 04:59.51 | trogger | what is the simplest screensaver that comes with xscreensaver that can just display static photos? |
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| 05:00.28 | graeme | trogger, why would you want such a boring thing. |
| 05:00.31 | graeme | trogger: use the bouncing cow! |
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| 05:00.45 | helpme2 | u guys are mother-fuckers.....if u go to #ubuntu channel ppl wont treat u this way....ur all ass-hole maniacs over a distro.....an OS....grow up and be a gentleman.... |
| 05:00.49 | trogger | graeme: yes, I like the bouncing cow :), but I want something non-distracting |
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| 05:01.10 | graeme | trogger, screen blank is boring. |
| 05:01.14 | victor | zinx : what is the page of the doom ?? |
| 05:01.17 | graeme | that's what i use for boring days |
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| 05:01.52 | trogger | graeme: screen blank won't display a photo, I presume. |
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| 05:02.17 | graeme | trogger.. no, i don't know the answer to your question, i just wanted to talk about the bouncing cow.. |
| 05:02.36 | graeme | sometimes i just run it in a window to watch it. |
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| 05:09.02 | victor | please the password of doom 3 |
| 05:09.30 | dondelelcaro | victor: we don't support proprietary software here. Contact ID support. |
| 05:09.37 | Phated | ... Sunday has hit, folks. Brace for recovery impact. |
| 05:10.08 | bucky | a hurricane force II Sunday |
| 05:12.36 | Guerin | victor: the password is 'buyacopyyourselfyoufuckinglamer' |
| 05:13.23 | message_ | bucky: what happened to sodom and ghomorra will happen to usa |
| 05:13.29 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: I know you said ipmasq would fix the problem but I would much rather use my friends firewall file to fix it.. is there any way you could take a look at the file and tell me what I might be doing wrong? |
| 05:13.53 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: it's probably best to just start with the simplest configuration... |
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| 05:14.14 | bucky | message_, unless we repent |
| 05:14.29 | dondelelcaro | !masq |
| 05:14.29 | dpkg | [masq] See: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L, or >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html << url has changed |
| 05:14.38 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: iptables isn't hard. I learnt the basics in an hour or so. |
| 05:14.39 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: start with the above, then do something more complex. |
| 05:15.02 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: masq =~ s#http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html#http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html# |
| 05:15.02 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 05:15.08 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: let me try that... brb thanks. |
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| 05:15.27 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: masq =~ s#, or >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html << url has changed## |
| 05:15.27 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
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| 05:16.53 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: didn't know how? |
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| 05:18.56 | muhoo | is there any reason not to use CONFIG_HZ_1000 on a server system? or is CONFIG_HZ_100 better for servers? |
| 05:19.13 | muhoo | 250 is a compromise, but why compromise? it's a headless server, no RT stuff |
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| 05:26.23 | michal_ | hi.. is there some sort of utiliting like time but for measuring application memory usage? ie memusage <app> and it gives peak memory usage after the run is finished |
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| 05:29.10 | TwistedEmotions2 | uhhh... |
| 05:29.15 | TwistedEmotions2 | I crashed.. |
| 05:29.26 | TwistedEmotions2 | how do I kill TwistedEmotions ? |
| 05:29.34 | TwistedEmotions2 | nickserv? |
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| 05:29.48 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: yoyoyo. the nat working? |
| 05:29.59 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: ;( No... |
| 05:30.11 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: the router is suppose to DHCP right? |
| 05:30.14 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: the f. |
| 05:30.14 | deadcat | no |
| 05:30.23 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: static? |
| 05:30.38 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: you set the router to static ip. |
| 05:30.57 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: router gives dhcp, but its ip is static. same network as the desktop |
| 05:31.32 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: okkk. let me try and see if I can get it working.. what do I set for gateway etc etc? |
| 05:32.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: on the desktop. you dont set gateway for eth0, just the ip. |
| 05:32.22 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: the router (dlink,netgear) you config it to the desktop. |
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| 05:33.12 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: in the interfaces file... iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 |
| 05:33.16 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: right? |
| 05:33.50 | message_ | deadcat: I think its about time you stop grieving and get another cat |
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| 05:34.09 | alarickingdead | Hello. |
| 05:34.36 | phlak | hola |
| 05:34.45 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: Router is asking for IP it's suppose to use... also Subnet mask+GatewayIP+DNS... what do I put in? |
| 05:34.52 | alarickingdead | I am in need of some help. |
| 05:34.53 | phlak | hola |
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| 05:35.11 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: IP I guessed at 192.168.1.1.. subnet 255.255.255.0? gateway ? dns ? |
| 05:35.12 | phlak | tell me about this |
| 05:35.22 | phlak | alarickinghead |
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| 05:35.29 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: Well, we can't help you, as you haven't yet asked your question. |
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| 05:35.46 | TwistedEmotions2 | !tell alarickingdead about ask |
| 05:36.03 | alarickingdead | I installed sarge, I did expert I chose 2.6 kernel, I setup the internet repos, and now everytime I try to install a program it insists it must remove all my kernels, this is a problem. |
| 05:36.14 | alarickingdead | I know |
| 05:36.36 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: the desktop info |
| 05:36.40 | cheal | alarickingdead: did you use aptitude? |
| 05:36.52 | TwistedEmotions2 | deadcat: what info is that? |
| 05:37.05 | alarickingdead | You're so genious I spread out what I intent to say over two lines and you jump on me. |
| 05:37.09 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions2: mask is 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 dns just use 147.144.1.250 |
| 05:37.53 | alarickingdead | Anyways is there a way to rid myself of this plague I call dep hell? |
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| 05:38.31 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: How did you attempt to install a program? And no, we're not "jumping on" you, we're trying to gather more information to give you the right answer. |
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| 05:38.44 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: Semi important, what program did you attempt to install? |
| 05:38.49 | phlak | hello |
| 05:39.07 | bob2 | alarickingdead: this is where you tell us what you tried to install, and show us the full output from apt, and your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood |
| 05:39.09 | phlak | i need help please |
| 05:39.11 | alarickingdead | ke6isf, every program so far, everytime it insists it needs to remove all kernels |
| 05:39.18 | darkness | Hi, i want to download a large file to my server using ftp. Whats the best/easiest way? Install vsftpd etc. |
| 05:39.24 | ke6isf | phlak: We can't help you. You have not yet asked your question. |
| 05:39.27 | ke6isf | !tell phlak -about ask |
| 05:39.45 | alarickingdead | I suppose this to choosing 2.6 at installation, my friend did-non expert works fine |
| 05:39.48 | ecobian | what is the debian menu package called? |
| 05:39.49 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: OK, what bob2 said. Paste the full output from apt-get, and use a pastebin for the purpose. |
| 05:40.02 | bob2 | alarickingdead: that's unlikely. as above. |
| 05:40.12 | alarickingdead | pastebin? elaborate |
| 05:40.13 | ttick | okay, I have an on-board ethrnet card (eth0) that works fine and dandy. But usually I wanna go moble with a WiFi PCIMCIA card. When I take the wire out, and put the card in, I get no-joy. Any suggestions on a configuration for a static IP (would be great if it was the same IP as the eth0 (since i'll never use them at the same time). |
| 05:40.14 | phlak | what number is the last kernel stable |
| 05:40.28 | bob2 | alarickingdead: /j #flood |
| 05:40.48 | cheal | phlak: if you're asking what's the latest stable Linux kernel, see kernel.org |
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| 05:41.12 | phlak | thank you cheal |
| 05:41.36 | phlak | where are you? |
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| 05:43.09 | alarickingdead | Ok since I DLed .debs from debian and forced them to install it's giving me a totaly different error |
| 05:43.21 | alarickingdead | anyways gonna flood now |
| 05:43.26 | bob2 | alarickingdead: ah, so you're deliberately breaking apt, great |
| 05:43.28 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: We still need to see the output from the apt-get command in order to help you. |
| 05:43.47 | alarickingdead | I needed someway to get here! |
| 05:43.48 | bob2 | alarickingdead: right, so if you don't know how apt works, you shouldn't be using dpkg |
| 05:44.05 | alarickingdead | great here we go |
| 05:44.06 | bob2 | alarickingdead: sudo apt-get remove xchat bitchx |
| 05:44.07 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: You haven't run apt-setup yet, have you? |
| 05:44.38 | alarickingdead | i've added internet sources, right now my cdroms are commented as I don't have them |
| 05:45.01 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: OK, copy your sources.list into #flood, I wanna see what's in there. |
| 05:45.04 | bob2 | alarickingdead: right, so run what I said, and you haven't shown us your sources.list yet |
| 05:45.21 | alarickingdead | I cannot remove xchat right now as it is the only irc program that can ever connect to this room |
| 05:45.34 | alarickingdead | ok ill paste in flood |
| 05:45.35 | bob2 | awesome |
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| 05:46.07 | ke6isf | bob2: Minor pedantry, I don't think he needs to sudo. |
| 05:46.22 | bob2 | of course, depends how your system is setup |
| 05:46.39 | darkness | Whats the easiest to use ftp client available for deb? |
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| 05:46.46 | Guerin | darkness: gftp |
| 05:46.49 | bob2 | alarickingdead: using broken old sarge cds is only going to lead to pain |
| 05:47.01 | |XO4| | whats the debian equivalted of /etc/rc.local (redhat)? |
| 05:47.06 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: Just how many CD lines do you have in there?! |
| 05:47.07 | bob2 | darkness: gnome and kde's file managers are ftp clients |
| 05:47.07 | bob2 | |XO4|: |
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| 05:47.14 | dodgyville | Hello |
| 05:47.16 | bob2 | |XO4|: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 05:47.22 | dodgyville | How can I downgrade from php5 to php4? |
| 05:47.26 | bob2 | dodgyville: this is not an ubuntu support channel, sorry |
| 05:47.52 | alarickingdead | well my friend as I said installed from same cds except he din't choose 2.6 at install, and he can use the internet repos fine, but me apt really wants to remove my kernels |
| 05:47.59 | bob2 | ignore that |
| 05:48.06 | darkness | bob2: I wouldn't know how to use kde as an ftp. All i want is a file from a friend. |
| 05:48.06 | bob2 | and you still haven't shown me the output I asked for |
| 05:48.09 | ke6isf | Wow, that's old sarge. |
| 05:48.18 | bob2 | alarickingdead: 'sudo apt-get install xchat' gives? |
| 05:48.30 | ke6isf | darkness: Use ncftp. |
| 05:48.54 | dodgyville | bob2: Actually, it was a question about apt-get. |
| 05:49.10 | bob2 | dodgyville: no, it's a question about you using the Ubuntu php5 packages (which are not in Debian) |
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| 05:49.31 | Guerin | dodgyville: why can't #ubuntu help you? Ubuntu uses apt-get. |
| 05:49.32 | bob2 | alarickingdead: oh, wait, you pointed apt at sid at some point? |
| 05:49.42 | alarickingdead | I may have |
| 05:49.54 | bob2 | hahaha |
| 05:50.03 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: We need to clean up your sources. |
| 05:50.05 | bob2 | alarickingdead: time to point apt back at sid, and "welcome to unstable"! |
| 05:50.19 | alarickingdead | but it's supposed to be at testing( i think installing 2.6 was preemptive and so testing packages don't like 2.6) |
| 05:50.23 | bob2 | no |
| 05:50.28 | bob2 | that's incorrect |
| 05:50.30 | brosioz | i've add to my repository debian experimental |
| 05:50.42 | brosioz | how could i see the version of a package |
| 05:50.45 | brosioz | apt-cache see |
| 05:50.47 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: When did you install this? |
| 05:50.54 | alarickingdead | Ok I'll smite my sources |
| 05:50.54 | brosioz | the package of unstable |
| 05:51.03 | bob2 | brosioz: apt-cache policy whatever |
| 05:51.04 | ke6isf | brosioz: apt-cache show pkgname |
| 05:51.05 | alarickingdead | ke6isf, few days ago |
| 05:51.34 | bob2 | alarickingdead: another inetersting point is that you're not even running current testing |
| 05:51.42 | brosioz | apt-cache show packege | show me the version that is on unstable but i want to see the pkg that is in experimental!! |
| 05:51.43 | bob2 | possibly an apt-get update will fix things |
| 05:51.52 | bob2 | brosioz: so, read what I said already |
| 05:52.00 | alarickingdead | apt-setup now |
| 05:52.07 | bob2 | no |
| 05:52.19 | brosioz | bob2, ok |
| 05:52.22 | brosioz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.22 | ke6isf | alarickingdead: You need to strike those CD lines from your file. |
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| 05:52.34 | bob2 | the cds don't matter |
| 05:52.40 | alarickingdead | I'm just redoing my sources real quick |
| 05:52.52 | bob2 | that also won't help |
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| 05:53.03 | brosioz | wow thx bob2 !! |
| 05:53.21 | ke6isf | bob2: waitaminit, is he running with sid packages? |
| 05:53.46 | alarickingdead | ok i made sure everything is testing and apt-get updated |
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| 05:53.57 | bob2 | ke6isf: so he/she says |
| 05:54.07 | ke6isf | bob2: ...shit. I'm out. |
| 05:54.35 | ttick | anyone know a utility to adjust the default gamma and other aspects of your LCD through debian? |
| 05:54.35 | alarickingdead | flood |
| 05:54.58 | bob2 | xgamma, in X |
| 05:55.03 | bob2 | I believe it's an xorg.conf option, too |
| 05:55.22 | ttick | bob2: okay, thanks |
| 05:55.35 | bob2 | alarickingdead: "apt-cache policy bitchx" |
| 05:55.37 | Gnea | w00t! finally got x86_64 to install |
| 05:55.37 | bob2 | oh, wait |
| 05:55.44 | bob2 | you wet and downloaded bitchx for sid, didn't you |
| 05:55.44 | bob2 | haha |
| 05:55.52 | bob2 | purge bitchx and xchat |
| 05:55.58 | Gnea | people still use bitchx? |
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| 05:56.29 | alarickingdead | listen if i remove xchat I will no longer be able to recieve your gracious help |
| 05:56.38 | bob2 | that's great |
| 05:56.41 | bob2 | but apt won't work unti lyou do |
| 05:56.43 | bob2 | so, go remove it |
| 05:56.47 | bob2 | then actually use apt to install it |
| 05:56.49 | Gnea | alarickingdead: just install irssi and reconnect with that |
| 05:56.49 | bob2 | then come back |
| 05:57.07 | bob2 | also, never install packages with dpkg unless you know what you're doing |
| 05:57.16 | bob2 | having to use --force-depends is a good sign you've broken something |
| 05:57.35 | alarickingdead | Yes but I was running out of options |
| 05:57.49 | alarickingdead | after I purge the clients then what |
| 05:57.50 | Gnea | no need to make excuses here |
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| 05:58.06 | NetSpy | alguem aqui fala portugues? |
| 05:58.08 | NetSpy | hehe |
| 05:58.09 | bob2 | 15:56:43 bob2 | so, go remove it |
| 05:58.09 | bob2 | 15:56:46 bob2 | then actually use apt to install it |
| 05:58.09 | bob2 | 15:56:49 bob2 | then come back |
| 05:58.13 | Gnea | !br |
| 05:58.13 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 05:58.14 | bob2 | NetSpy: no |
| 05:58.29 | NetSpy | [Gokee2]: vlw |
| 05:58.36 | alarickingdead | apt then will tell me to remove my kernels and nothing would have changed |
| 05:58.41 | alarickingdead | but whatever |
| 05:58.45 | bob2 | alarickingdead: that's awesome |
| 05:58.49 | bob2 | idiot |
| 05:58.53 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 05:58.54 | Guerin | really |
| 05:59.09 | bob2 | yes, because we can fix whatever else you fucked up without seeing the error |
| 05:59.16 | bob2 | let me use my magical telescope to see your computer screen |
| 05:59.37 | dondelelcaro | bob2: longstanding membership in #debian gives us telekenetic powers! |
| 05:59.47 | bob2 | haha |
| 06:00.07 | Gnea | dude |
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| 06:00.10 | Gnea | yer mom is hot! |
| 06:00.12 | Gnea | ;) |
| 06:00.17 | Agrajag- | anyone here happened to have tried quake4 with testing? |
| 06:00.25 | bob2 | quake4 exists? |
| 06:00.32 | Gnea | quake? what a shit game |
| 06:00.32 | Agrajag- | yeah, linux client too |
| 06:00.40 | brosioz | bob2, yes |
| 06:00.46 | brosioz | linux client is go out |
| 06:00.46 | bob2 | now I feel even worse that my deskto pcan't play quake3 |
| 06:00.49 | brosioz | many days ago |
| 06:00.58 | brosioz | i'm donwloading it |
| 06:01.07 | dondelelcaro | bob2: it's ok; so long as it can play nethack, it's good enough. |
| 06:01.11 | Gnea | bob2: don't, it's gone completely to the porcelain gods |
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| 06:01.28 | Guerin | already had hordes of idiots unable to get it working |
| 06:01.30 | Agrajag- | but the client segfaults when i load it :/, not sure what the problem is |
| 06:01.33 | alarickingdead | do I have a flood for you |
| 06:01.35 | Agrajag- | dedicated server runs ok |
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| 06:01.45 | dondelelcaro | Agrajag-: probably linking against slightly different libraries or similar |
| 06:01.52 | Guerin | omg teh quake4 is teh segfualt what can i do plz pm me k |
| 06:01.54 | Gnea | alarickingdead: do you? |
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| 06:02.14 | Agrajag- | yeah. the README doesn't give me much information. could be an SDL thing, not sure. but i do have the SDL version the README says it requires |
| 06:02.15 | Gnea | Guerin: maybe the /topic needs rearranging |
| 06:02.20 | brosioz | anyone onw why amule on debian sid is compile without webserver ? :°° |
| 06:02.34 | victor | INSTALL MENU OF ELIVE IN DEBIAN OR MENU 3D FOR DEBIAN?????? |
| 06:02.35 | Gnea | brosioz: apt-get install ls |
| 06:02.37 | Guerin | brosioz: why the fuck would a p2p client have a webserver in it? |
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| 06:02.46 | Guerin | victor: stop being a fuckwit |
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| 06:03.34 | brosioz | Guerin, to manage download from remote host :°D |
| 06:03.42 | Agrajag- | Guerin: bt trackers *are* webservers |
| 06:04.11 | Gnea | brosioz: is your face that deranged irl? :) |
| 06:04.16 | alarickingdead | anyone who cares to check |
| 06:04.31 | Guerin | Agrajag-: that I know, but what reason is there for *mule to have one? |
| 06:04.46 | Guerin | brosioz: that means nothing |
| 06:04.51 | Agrajag- | Guerin: no idea. you said p2p |
| 06:05.15 | Guerin | Agrajag-: the question stands: why would a CLIENT have a webserver? |
| 06:05.21 | dondelelcaro | alarickingdead: so what about it? if you don't want to remove those packages, figure out what is conflicting with them, and deal with the conflict; (unless you had them already set up for removal) |
| 06:05.43 | alarickingdead | Hello I am having a problem with apt, you see everytime I try to install the least bit of packages, it wants to remove my kernels |
| 06:05.55 | dpower | alarickingdead: are you dense? |
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| 06:05.57 | Guerin | alarickingdead: let it remove the kernels. |
| 06:06.02 | Guerin | alarickingdead: just let it. |
| 06:06.03 | alarickingdead | Why would the kernels being conflicted? |
| 06:06.06 | dpower | haha |
| 06:06.21 | Guerin | alarickingdead: then install another kernel and reboot into it, problem solved. |
| 06:06.24 | alarickingdead | And how can it remove a running kernel? |
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| 06:06.38 | Guerin | alarickingdead: apt will do it for you, with warnings. |
| 06:06.45 | dobby | hello i installed webin a few seconds ago, when i try to connect to https://localhost:10000 i got a conneciton refused??? Does Someone has an Idea why? |
| 06:06.46 | alarickingdead | I did, it wants to remove ALL my kernels even other ones that I have tried |
| 06:06.48 | Gnea | alarickingdead: just let it do its thing and move on |
| 06:06.58 | Guerin | alarickingdead: try aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-1-386 |
| 06:07.02 | brosioz | so to have a webserver i need to recompile all ? |
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| 06:07.05 | Gnea | dobby: from the same host? |
| 06:07.11 | dobby | yes |
| 06:07.14 | Guerin | brosioz: why do you want a webserver in a p2p program? |
| 06:07.17 | dondelelcaro | alarickingdead: right, and it's because initrd-tools is being removed. |
| 06:07.17 | Gnea | dobby: is it running? |
| 06:07.25 | Guerin | !connection refused |
| 06:07.26 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 06:07.29 | Guerin | Gnea: no. |
| 06:07.31 | brosioz | Guerin, yes |
| 06:07.38 | Gnea | Guerin: shut up. |
| 06:07.59 | Guerin | Gnea: the answer is clearly and explicitly 'yes' |
| 06:08.04 | brosioz | Guerin, your a little bir idiot |
| 06:08.11 | Guerin | Gnea: the answer is clearly and explicitly 'no' |
| 06:08.11 | alarickingdead | This is fucking bullshit |
| 06:08.15 | Guerin | bah, I am an idiot |
| 06:08.22 | dobby | yes it is running |
| 06:08.22 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 06:08.29 | Guerin | brosioz: no. 'yes' is not an answer to my question. |
| 06:08.33 | dondelelcaro | !depends kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 06:08.33 | alarickingdead | Grade A cow shit from texas |
| 06:08.37 | dondelelcaro | !+depends kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 sarge |
| 06:08.40 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686: depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.63), coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.0), module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13) |
| 06:08.42 | bucky | dobby is it apache2 and did you set up ssl on it? |
| 06:08.42 | dondelelcaro | alarickingdead: see above. |
| 06:08.43 | Guerin | dobby: if it was running, ti wouldn't be refusing connections on port 10000 |
| 06:08.47 | Gnea | dobby: check the conf files, make sure the ip can connect and that it's not firewalled |
| 06:09.05 | Guerin | bucky: webmin uses its own internal web server, not apache |
| 06:09.07 | Gnea | alarickingdead: that's some high quality shit |
| 06:09.09 | dobby | ok maybe it is the firewall |
| 06:09.24 | bob2 | alarickingdead: welcome to testing |
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| 06:09.45 | dondelelcaro | alarickingdead: and now you should be gaining enlightenment. libc6 conflicts with whatever version of initrd you've got installed; upgrade it, then continue along. |
| 06:09.47 | Guerin | a firewall which blocks connections from localhost ... right |
| 06:09.49 | lightbright | hello |
| 06:09.59 | Guerin | oh god, lightbright is here |
| 06:10.01 | dondelelcaro | alarickingdead: you're probably seeing this because you're trying to upgrade from some ancient version of testing to a recent one. |
| 06:10.06 | Guerin | sunday is complete |
| 06:10.10 | lightbright | does any program exist that supports multi-file find/replace ? |
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| 06:10.19 | Guerin | lightbright: sed |
| 06:10.20 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: hello :) |
| 06:10.22 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: perl -pi -e 's/foo/bar/' file1 file2 |
| 06:10.22 | Gnea | Guerin: not yet it isn't |
| 06:10.22 | bob2 | lightbright: sed in a shell loop |
| 06:10.29 | Gnea | Guerin: give me 50 minutes. |
| 06:10.30 | alarickingdead | apt is broken won't do anything until all my kernels are gone, I am objectional to this behavior |
| 06:10.39 | Guerin | oh man |
| 06:10.43 | Guerin | it's going to get worse? |
| 06:10.46 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: whats 's/foo/bar/' mean? |
| 06:10.50 | dondelelcaro | alarickingdead: I've told you how to fix it. If you continue to complain, you will be devoiced. |
| 06:10.55 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: perldoc perlretut |
| 06:10.58 | Guerin | alarickingdead: don't be. just let it remove all your kernels. |
| 06:11.00 | bob2 | alarickingdead: wtf, it's user error |
| 06:11.04 | Gnea | like a broken lamp bulb |
| 06:11.04 | bob2 | alarickingdead: upgrade to sarge, then go to testing |
| 06:11.09 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: sorry I dont understand |
| 06:11.11 | Guerin | alarickingdead: then install one which works |
| 06:11.34 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: it's a regex; substitute bar for foo; [perldoc perlretut; will explain the syntax.] |
| 06:11.38 | alarickingdead | Do you happen to know which one that would be? |
| 06:11.46 | Guerin | alarickingdead: no. |
| 06:11.51 | Gnea | alarickingdead: what version of debian are you running now? |
| 06:11.54 | bob2 | alarickingdead: upgrade to sarge. |
| 06:12.03 | alarickingdead | testing cds from may or something |
| 06:12.03 | bob2 | Gnea: a broken hybrid of sarge from january and testing |
| 06:12.04 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: if I wanted to replace /images/menu.gif from all html files in a directory with images/menu.gif instead. what would the command be? |
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| 06:12.22 | Gnea | bob2: oh shit |
| 06:12.40 | dli | alarickingdead, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, change "woody" to "stable" |
| 06:12.42 | Gnea | alarickingdead: you just need to stuff the important files on a backup dir and reinstall |
| 06:12.45 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: find . -type f -iname '*.html' -print0|xargs -0 perl -pi -e 's#/images/menu.gif#images/menu.gif#g' |
| 06:12.58 | Gnea | alarickingdead: just do yourself a favor |
| 06:13.05 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: wow thats advanced stuff :P |
| 06:13.22 | bob2 | alarickingdead: change "testing" to "stable", run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' |
| 06:13.33 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: not really, it's just two commands lashed to perl -pi -e. |
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| 06:13.46 | mojo | can anyone tell me how to repopulate the debian menu in a fresh sarge install? It showed everything last time, and now it is empty. |
| 06:14.02 | dondelelcaro | mojo: update-menus should do it |
| 06:14.23 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: ok :) |
| 06:14.49 | mojo | dondelelcaro: Command not found :( i must be missing something |
| 06:15.04 | dondelelcaro | mojo: apt-get install menu; /msg dpkg search |
| 06:15.37 | dondelelcaro | and on this happy note, localtime all! |
| 06:16.14 | Gigs | I think I'm having a udev problem with my cd-burner. I installed debian from CD so I know it works, but I don't have /dev/hd-anything, and cdrecord -scanbus isn't finding it either. |
| 06:16.15 | mojo | thanks, Ill remember that command |
| 06:16.30 | Gnea | damn straight you will |
| 06:16.41 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:16.45 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: I did that command you gave me, but it didnt change anything. the html files still have /images/menu,gif. The "/" wasnt removed |
| 06:17.05 | dli | Gigs: try "apt-get install k3b", the easiest for n00bs |
| 06:17.17 | alarickingdead | whatever apt-get -f install does i'm doing it |
| 06:17.19 | Gigs | dli: without a burner device, k3b won't help |
| 06:17.27 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: sorry it DID work :) |
| 06:17.30 | dli | Gigs, try it |
| 06:17.40 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: thats a great command, thanks :) Works great :) |
| 06:17.41 | Gigs | dli: I did, it said it didn't find anything |
| 06:17.42 | Gnea | dli: i've recently found that k3b works great with veterans as well |
| 06:17.59 | |XO4| | awesome :) |
| 06:18.06 | Gigs | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.17 | dli | Gigs: are you running a standard debian kernel? |
| 06:18.24 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.26 | Gnea | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 06:18.32 | Gigs | dli: 2.6.8-2-k7, yes |
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| 06:18.50 | Gnea | Gigs: then it's probably something else, ls /dev/hd* |
| 06:19.08 | Gigs | Gnea: no such file |
| 06:19.14 | dli | Gnea: dmesg is better |
| 06:19.14 | Guerin | Gnea: are you root? |
| 06:19.18 | Guerin | bah |
| 06:19.22 | Guerin | Gigs: are you root? |
| 06:19.25 | Gigs | yes |
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| 06:19.36 | Gnea | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
| 06:19.39 | mojo | anyone else try Debian Pure? |
| 06:19.40 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: wow, thats a very powerful command you gave me! It changes every single html to what I wanted! you just saved me 3 hours of work :) THANKS :) |
| 06:19.49 | Gnea | mojo: wazzat? |
| 06:19.57 | lightbright | whats Debian Pure? |
| 06:19.59 | dli | Gigs: dmesg|grep -i cd |
| 06:20.02 | Guerin | mojo: yeah. i use purre debian. |
| 06:20.03 | mojo | www.debianpure.com |
| 06:20.05 | bucky | mojo, they do in #debian-amd64 |
| 06:20.06 | Guerin | s/rr/r/ |
| 06:20.12 | Drakh | I installed 2 hard drives on my second IDE channel. What are the device names for the drives? I understand that the master drive on the first ide channel is /dev/hda |
| 06:20.20 | Gnea | bucky: that's pure-64 |
| 06:20.30 | Guerin | Disclaimer: This Site is Not Affiliated in Any Way With the Debian Project |
| 06:20.33 | Guerin | HAHAHAHA |
| 06:20.36 | TwistedEmotions | It's like pure cocaine but more addicite and more nose bleeds.. |
| 06:20.39 | mojo | :( |
| 06:20.50 | bucky | oh a new distro? |
| 06:20.58 | dli | Drakh, hda, hdb |
| 06:21.09 | Gigs | dli: no result, but dmesg buffer is full because of a million atkbd.c: Keyboard on isa0060/serio0 reports too many keys pressed messages. |
| 06:21.13 | mojo | It keeps me away from Ubuntu at least, and I can install sarge debs :) |
| 06:21.13 | dli | Drakh, check dmesg for more |
| 06:21.23 | Gigs | dli: so the boot messages have fallen off dmesg |
| 06:21.28 | TwistedEmotions | no.. It's not a new distro... just a install CD I think.. |
| 06:21.30 | Guerin | YAFDBD |
| 06:21.42 | dli | Gigs, then, check /var/log/kernel.log boot.log |
| 06:21.42 | mojo | It installs a proper Debian Stable |
| 06:21.48 | Gigs | dli: k |
| 06:21.53 | Drakh | dli, hda is the first drive |
| 06:21.53 | Guerin | mojo: so it says. |
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| 06:22.02 | mojo | It doesnt have any branding on debian |
| 06:22.04 | Drakh | hdb would be the slave on IDE channel 1 right? |
| 06:22.08 | mojo | it just makes the install easier |
| 06:22.09 | dli | Drakh, then, the slave should be hdb |
| 06:22.15 | Gnea | so this guy took both evils and threw them into one distro - nice |
| 06:22.23 | dli | Drakh, "fdisk -l /dev/hdb" |
| 06:22.23 | TwistedEmotions | bucky: This project is not about creating an additional |
| 06:22.23 | TwistedEmotions | distribution, rather, a CD that will help newer users with installing a Debian proper system along with common plug-ins (DVD, |
| 06:22.23 | TwistedEmotions | Flash, Java, and Mplayer). |
| 06:22.26 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.26 | bucky | distribution, rather, a CD that will help newer users with installing a Debian proper system along with common plug-ins (DVD, Flash, Java, and Mplayer |
| 06:22.30 | Drakh | There is no slave on ide channel 1 |
| 06:22.32 | Guerin | mojo: but there's nothing hard about the install ... if you follow the instructions |
| 06:22.41 | TwistedEmotions | hahahaha |
| 06:22.45 | Drakh | there is a master and slave on IDE channel 2, should they be hdc, and hdd? |
| 06:22.54 | Guerin | and it also includes a lot of non-free shite, which means it's not pure by any meaning of the word |
| 06:22.56 | Gnea | Drakh: that is correct. |
| 06:22.59 | TwistedEmotions | bucky: deja vu? |
| 06:23.03 | Drakh | ok |
| 06:23.08 | bucky | oh that's pure debian.. with java and flash |
| 06:23.17 | dli | Drakh, (hda, hdb), (hdc, hdd) |
| 06:23.18 | mojo | I can install it fine, its just nice that it set up all of the multimedia |
| 06:23.30 | dli | Drakh, go to /proc/ide |
| 06:23.37 | lightbright | did dondelelcaro leave? |
| 06:23.46 | dli | Gigs, right, you may also check /proc/ide |
| 06:23.53 | bucky | mojo, it's for people who don't know how to use google |
| 06:23.54 | TwistedEmotions | ;P Would have made my life easier... but oh well.. wasnt THAT hard to install java, mplayer, flash... |
| 06:24.24 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: who gives a fuck about what makes *YOUR* life easier? ;) |
| 06:24.26 | Drakh | oh thanks dli |
| 06:24.28 | xixor | Hey guys, I am trying to have my dual boot system not loose its clock configuration. I think the easiest way is to not use UTC in Linux. Is there a command to turn it off? |
| 06:24.28 | Drakh | let me try |
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| 06:24.52 | Drakh | thanks dli, that lists them nicely, I will remember that |
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| 06:25.45 | Gnea | xixor: just have both systems utilize network date operations - ntpdate in debian, and just click the option on in the clock options in blowz |
| 06:25.45 | bdunn | Question... I have an Intel Pentium 4 IA64T CPU. Can I install Debian i386 or must I install the IA64T debian? |
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| 06:25.45 | Gigs | dli: yeah ide-disk version 1.18 ide-cdrom version 4.61 |
| 06:25.46 | dli | Drakh, always check dmesg, or /proc/ide :) |
| 06:25.46 | Gnea | bdunn: IA64T? |
| 06:25.47 | Gnea | bdunn: wtf is that? |
| 06:25.48 | dli | Gigs, good, now you find it |
| 06:25.48 | Gnea | bdunn: and who makes it? |
| 06:25.51 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: i hope you inherit a P2 400 with windows 98 ;P |
| 06:26.00 | dli | Gigs strange thing, k3b doesn't ? |
| 06:26.02 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: i did once. :) |
| 06:26.10 | Gigs | dli: well there's nothing in /dev for it that I can see |
| 06:26.12 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 06:26.16 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: then i smashed the windows, put linux on it and gave it to a friend ;) |
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| 06:26.38 | dli | Gigs, what's the device in /proc/ide |
| 06:26.44 | Gnea | idiot |
| 06:26.55 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: He's going to miss those blue screens.. |
| 06:27.09 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: that was the point |
| 06:27.09 | Gigs | dli: not sure what you mean, there's a file named "drivers" with those two lines of text in it |
| 06:27.17 | Gigs | dli: that's all that's in there |
| 06:27.31 | dli | Gigs: ls -l /proc/ide |
| 06:27.43 | Gigs | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 23 02:27 drivers |
| 06:27.44 | Gigs | that's it |
| 06:27.58 | dli | Gigs, oh, your hdd is not ide |
| 06:28.07 | Gigs | I think it's SATA |
| 06:28.14 | Gigs | but the cdburner is PATA |
| 06:28.39 | dli | Gigs search your kern.log |
| 06:29.12 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: still here? |
| 06:29.17 | Gigs | yeah I just popped the case open, the hard disk is SATA :) Got so many systems I forget what is in each sometimes |
| 06:29.43 | Gigs | in kern.log the only thing I see is it finds ata0 and ata1 |
| 06:30.02 | Gigs | well that was in boot.log |
| 06:30.37 | Drakh | What is the command to make an ext3 filesystem on a new partition? |
| 06:30.53 | Guerin | Drakh: mkfs.ext3 |
| 06:31.05 | Drakh | i didn't know commands had dots in them |
| 06:31.07 | Gigs | no sorry, I'm mixed up, that's it scanning the SATA ports |
| 06:31.11 | Drakh | thanks |
| 06:31.27 | Gigs | ata1 it finds the sata disk, ata2 is says no device, which is correct, there's nothing on the second SATA port |
| 06:31.28 | dli | Gigs hope k3b can use it now |
| 06:31.45 | Gigs | dli: what exactly do you want me to look for in the boot log? |
| 06:31.54 | Gigs | I still don't have a device for the burner :) |
| 06:32.04 | dli | Gigs, what is reported for your CD |
| 06:32.10 | Gigs | Oct 12 21:27:30 localhost kernel: hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX230ED, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 06:32.17 | Drakh | hey is ext3 the standard now or should i still use ext2 |
| 06:32.19 | Gigs | hdc doesn't exist in dev (anymore?) |
| 06:32.28 | Gigs | but it looks like it did at some point |
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| 06:33.11 | Gigs | ls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory |
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| 06:33.38 | Gigs | that line was from an older boot |
| 06:33.53 | Gigs | looks like on the most recent boot it didn't find the CDROM |
| 06:33.55 | dli | Gigs: kidding me? |
| 06:34.15 | Gigs | ? |
| 06:34.21 | dli | Gigs: that means you don't have the proper CD support in kernel |
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| 06:34.42 | Gigs | dli: it's the distro kernel |
| 06:34.51 | Gigs | I mean I haven't recompiled my own or anything |
| 06:34.54 | setuid_w00t | How do I reset the config files for a certain package back to the defaults? |
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| 06:35.11 | Gigs | I think when I first installed it put 2.4 on but I apt-getted the new 2.6-k7 |
| 06:35.17 | liable | setuid_w00t: you purge and re-install it |
| 06:35.29 | setuid_w00t | liable: Isn't there a better way than that? |
| 06:36.13 | liable | setuid_w00t: depends how you edited them, and what package it is. whats the big deal doing that anyway? |
| 06:36.39 | setuid_w00t | liable: I can do it. I just figured there was probably a more elegant approach |
| 06:36.54 | setuid_w00t | also, that method would totally suck for packages like X |
| 06:37.09 | Gigs | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 is the kernel I'm running from the debian repos |
| 06:37.11 | dli | Gigs: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 06:37.19 | liable | for packcges like x, you just use dpkg.. |
| 06:37.26 | Gigs | kernel-image-2.6-k7 is already the newest version. |
| 06:37.34 | liable | Gigs: maybe your drive is dying? |
| 06:37.53 | Gigs | liable: I guess anything's possible, I could boot back into the 2.4 kernel and se |
| 06:38.07 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: I am going to sleep :) Thats a very powerful command you gave me! It changes every single html to what I wanted! you just saved me 3 hours of work :) THANKS :) See you tomorrow |
| 06:38.10 | setuid_w00t | liable: ok, well that wasn't the point. The point was that if packages depend on the package you want to reset the config files for, then it is very inconvenient to purge and then reinstall |
| 06:38.12 | lightbright | bye everyone |
| 06:38.14 | liable | Gigs: so it works with 2.4, but not 2.6? |
| 06:38.35 | Gigs | liable: that's what it's looking like right now |
| 06:38.43 | Drakh | wow linux builds file systems so quickly ... |
| 06:38.52 | dli | Gigs do you get cd in other kernel? say, 2.4 |
| 06:39.29 | dli | Gigs it's more likely to be hardware problem to me |
| 06:39.37 | Gnea | Drakh: that's right. |
| 06:39.53 | Gigs | dli: well I could try 2.4 and see I guess, I think it's still in grub |
| 06:39.58 | Drakh | •Gnea• I am impressed |
| 06:40.00 | Drakh | err sorry |
| 06:40.04 | Gnea | heh |
| 06:40.05 | Drakh | stupid script |
| 06:40.06 | liable | Gigs: play with the cables, my laptop cdrom recently died, sometimes it would be detected, others not, eventually i just removed it, as it was causing hags at boot/post |
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| 06:40.08 | Gnea | it gets better |
| 06:40.11 | Gnea | and it gets worse |
| 06:40.11 | Gnea | ;) |
| 06:40.14 | dli | Gigs: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4-k7 |
| 06:40.27 | Drakh | Gnea, should I use ext2 or ext3, and why? sarge uses ext2 by default |
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| 06:40.45 | Guerin | Drakh: for what purpose |
| 06:40.46 | Guerin | ?" |
| 06:40.47 | dli | Gigs: expect failure of sound, X, and udev (of course) |
| 06:40.56 | dli | Gigs: but it should report hdc |
| 06:41.02 | Drakh | Guerin I will use it for samba on my home network |
| 06:41.14 | Gnea | Drakh: actually sarage uses ext3 by default, unless you've got an older installation disk - ext3 for the journaling features - it's basically ext2 with a journal on top |
| 06:41.17 | dli | Drakh, I use reiserfs, or ext3 |
| 06:41.18 | Guerin | Drakh: ext3. ext2 is a very conservative default. |
| 06:41.32 | Guerin | if you have to ask what filesystem to use, use ext3 |
| 06:41.41 | Guerin | unless you are in very unusual circumstances |
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| 06:42.02 | Drakh | Ok, maybe I am wrong and ext3 is on the boot drive, since this network install disk I downloaded only a week ago |
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| 06:44.16 | Drakh | nevermind, /etc/fstab shows it as ext3. I got confused because the man page for mkfs says ext2 is the default if -f is not specified. Old man page probably. |
| 06:45.01 | dli | Drakh, you can always add journal to an ext2 |
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| 06:45.29 | Gnea | Drakh: mkfs.ext3 |
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| 06:46.01 | Drakh | thanks gnea, I'll use that in the future. |
| 06:46.04 | Gnea | Drakh: it's also possible to turn the journal on and off and preserve the data |
| 06:46.15 | Gnea | Drakh: if you're careful.. |
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| 06:46.26 | Drakh | The journal is similar to a buffer in a database right? |
| 06:46.46 | Drakh | stores writes incase of a crash? sorry I'm ignorant |
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| 06:46.53 | Drakh | I should just read about it |
| 06:47.04 | Gnea | heh |
| 06:47.11 | Gnea | that's kind of how it works |
| 06:47.15 | Drakh | :( |
| 06:47.20 | Gnea | but yeah, you should definately read up on it :) |
| 06:47.26 | Drakh | :] |
| 06:47.59 | Gnea | Drakh: nothing wrong ith being ignorant - at least you admit it and remove all doubt :) |
| 06:48.39 | dli | Gnea: hehe, there are known unknown, and there are unknown unknowns |
| 06:48.39 | Gnea | it's not necessarily ignorant to know that you're ignorant, but not admitting ignorance may be an ignorant thing to do ;) |
| 06:48.49 | Gnea | dli: exactly. |
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| 06:49.55 | Gigs | everything works fine in 2.4, cdrom is back :) |
| 06:50.06 | Gnea | cool |
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| 06:50.19 | Gnea | Gigs: wait, were you in 2.6? |
| 06:50.24 | Gigs | yes |
| 06:50.27 | Gnea | weird |
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| 06:50.46 | TummyAcid | hey guys guess what?!? debian works great thank you for all the help |
| 06:50.47 | Gigs | yes it is, it's not like an ATA cdrom is exotic :) |
| 06:51.01 | Gnea | TummyAcid: of course it works great! :) |
| 06:51.06 | TummyAcid | fuckya |
| 06:51.13 | Gnea | heh |
| 06:51.46 | nimak | hahaha, i just realize how cool TummyAcid's nick is |
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| 06:52.03 | TummyAcid | ya ive never found another tummyacid as long as ive had the name |
| 06:52.07 | mkl1525 | Hi, trying to install isdn access, read that the ppp module has to be loaded but modprobe doesn't find this module and it isn't in /lib/modules/2.6.2 - so is ppp built-in statically in the normal debian kernel or where can I get it? |
| 06:52.17 | Gnea | "that's a mighty tasty burger, i've got some TummyAcid for that..." |
| 06:52.45 | Gnea | mkl1525: 2.6.2?! |
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| 06:53.37 | Drakh | TummyAcid yes I love debian as well |
| 06:53.55 | dli | Gigs then, get a newer 2.6 kernel and see |
| 06:54.00 | TummyAcid | debian rockors my sockors |
| 06:54.13 | Gigs | dli: k, thanks for the help |
| 06:54.36 | Gnea | w00t, the kernel finished compiling |
| 06:54.41 | dli | Gigs: I always found 2.6 was easier for cd-rw :( |
| 06:54.48 | Drakh | debbyian |
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| 06:55.02 | mkl1525 | Gnea, sorry should be 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 06:55.14 | Gigs | dli: yeah it's weird how that was |
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| 06:56.09 | dli | Gigs I think you can the kernel-image in testing |
| 06:56.25 | kevix | mkl1525, I see "ppp_async,ppp_deflate,ppp_generic,pppoe,pppox,ppp_synctty,syncppp,pppoatm" |
| 06:57.23 | brosioz | mmm,a stupid question i need to create a tar of all configuratione directory that are in the /home like .kde .mozilla-firefox .gimp and not the directory like /home/fonzie/images how could i do this ? |
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| 06:58.47 | _SerhaT_ | my guess though I am not good in such stuff.. tar cf backup.tar .* .... as the config dirs/files begin with a . ? |
| 06:59.00 | nimak | tar -c /home/brosioz/.* ? |
| 06:59.37 | mkl1525 | kevix, so ppp_generic should be the appropriate module? |
| 07:00.06 | nimak | NEVERMIND |
| 07:01.30 | kevix | mkl1525, uhh. I am using dialup and PPP. It uses ppp_async,ppp_generic,ppp_deflate and others". so, not sure. |
| 07:01.44 | welson | _SerhaT_, you may also want to include permission settings |
| 07:02.05 | brosioz | tar: /root/.: Cannot opentar: Removing leading `/root/..' from member names |
| 07:02.06 | brosioz | tar: Removing leading `/root/../' from member names |
| 07:02.06 | brosioz | : Is a directory |
| 07:02.06 | brosioz | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
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| 07:03.27 | brosioz | nimak, not works |
| 07:03.51 | _SerhaT_ | brosioz: man tar |
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| 07:04.38 | mkl1525 | kevix, ok thanks for help |
| 07:04.41 | nimak | tar -cf? |
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| 07:05.26 | nimak | tar has way too many features |
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| 07:06.02 | welson | nimak, tar and bzip |
| 07:06.10 | kevix | brosioz, try this "tar -cvf dotbackup.tar $(ls -a -d .*|grep -v "\.$")" |
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| 07:07.27 | nimak | yeah, that last one did all of /home/nima |
| 07:07.37 | nimak | my last one |
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| 07:08.21 | ratonn | Does Debian has a higher-level tool than adduser for adding new users? |
| 07:08.38 | ratonn | ie: useradd > adduser > Debian tool? |
| 07:08.56 | kevix | ratonn, kde and gnome have gui? |
| 07:09.11 | ratonn | using terminal |
| 07:09.20 | ratonn | just curious if adduser is highest level |
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| 07:09.39 | nimak | what do you mean by high-level? |
| 07:09.44 | dusk | whats a good bittorrent program for debian? |
| 07:09.47 | brosioz | just a second i try |
| 07:09.54 | kevix | ratonn, but you need to be root. so exactly who is going to be adding a user and NEEDS help? |
| 07:09.55 | Guerin | dusk: rtorrent |
| 07:09.56 | nimak | bittornado, azureus |
| 07:10.07 | Guerin | azureus is arse |
| 07:10.17 | dusk | yea way too clunky |
| 07:10.21 | dusk | i use utorrent in windows |
| 07:10.23 | ratonn | kevix: oh, no one but me. it's just that i used to use useradd when i found out about adduser |
| 07:10.33 | ratonn | i'm wondering if there's something else for reference |
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| 07:11.08 | ratonn | like debconf-adduser :P |
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| 07:12.21 | hcy | hi, where are the shutdown scripts kept - the equivalent of /etc/rc2.d , but that control all the stuff i see shutting down before my computer powers off? |
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| 07:12.41 | brosioz | kevix, thx |
| 07:12.42 | brosioz | works |
| 07:12.46 | brosioz | perfectly |
| 07:12.47 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to open playlist in gmplayer? |
| 07:12.51 | brosioz | !! :D |
| 07:13.07 | nimak | azureus is usefull if you do multiple torrents at once |
| 07:13.16 | Drakh | hcy I thought they were in /etc/rc6.d |
| 07:13.19 | nimak | works, brosioz? |
| 07:13.27 | hcy | Drakh: could be, i'll check. thanks |
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| 07:13.32 | brosioz | nimak, yes |
| 07:13.39 | Drakh | cause init 6 is shutdown right |
| 07:13.42 | nimak | YAY |
| 07:13.44 | brosioz | thx all for help |
| 07:13.51 | liable | hcy: there all in init.d, with links from the relevant directory.. |
| 07:14.06 | tremor | shutdown=0 reboot=6 |
| 07:14.12 | Drakh | ahhh |
| 07:14.21 | Drakh | my bad |
| 07:14.43 | Drakh | so the shutdown script links would be /etc/rc0.d |
| 07:14.48 | Drakh | to see what is running on shutdown |
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| 07:15.13 | warhead | Hi to all, I seek good firewall... |
| 07:15.21 | hcy | ok so silly question here... if the same init.d script has a link in rc2.d and in rc0.d , how does one shut things down while the other starts them? the symlinks don't seem to have any arguments |
| 07:15.38 | Drakh | •warhead• I suggest iptables. Google quick tables for an easy way to get started |
| 07:15.47 | liable | hcy: the s or k in the name. |
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| 07:16.01 | Drakh | hcy, look at all the stuff in the rc0.d directory, they run in alphabetical order |
| 07:16.11 | Drakh | oh nevermind |
| 07:16.13 | brosioz | tar -czf `date +%m-%b-%y`alex.tar.gz $(ls -a -d .*|grep -v "\.$") |
| 07:16.18 | brosioz | works perfectly |
| 07:16.31 | brosioz | to make a backup of your configuration files |
| 07:16.43 | hcy | liable: if it starts with a K, it's killing it, and if it starts with a S it's starting it? |
| 07:16.57 | liable | hcy: yeah |
| 07:17.06 | hcy | liable: that's cool. thanks :) |
| 07:17.09 | kevix | ratonn, if you are making a debian package, there are debian tools to add a user, like for apache. examine the post install script |
| 07:17.24 | Drakh | is typing init 0 the same as shutdown -h now ? |
| 07:17.36 | Drakh | while init 6 = shutdown -r now |
| 07:17.38 | hcy | why bother having a rc6.d directory for reboot? isn't a reboot just a shutdown followed by a boot-up? |
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| 07:18.01 | Drakh | •hcy• I don't think a halt command is issued in rc6 |
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| 07:18.34 | warhead | Drakh: ok |
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| 07:19.13 | darkness | Any help me with changing my kb to uk plz? |
| 07:19.29 | darkness | As the keys are incorrect for a uk model. |
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| 07:20.31 | kevix | darkness, have you edited your /etc/X11/{xorg.conf,XF86Config-4}? |
| 07:20.54 | hcy | why would a K link be rc2.d ? and why S's in rc0.d ? |
| 07:20.56 | nimak | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 should allow you to change your keymap |
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| 07:21.54 | scruffy | warhead: shorewall or firestarter are some options |
| 07:22.05 | beardy | !keymap |
| 07:22.05 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev |
| 07:24.00 | Drakh | shorewall? is that an iptables front end or something? |
| 07:24.24 | beardy | dpkg: keymap is also also ask me about drxx |
| 07:24.24 | dpkg | okay, beardy |
| 07:24.52 | darkness | I've loaded British standard standard but still the same. |
| 07:25.08 | darkness | Wonder if i have the correct graphics driver ? |
| 07:25.10 | ratonn | does linux prmpt when running "rm -r /*" ? |
| 07:25.24 | wathek | :)))) |
| 07:25.26 | beardy | darkness: That has nothing to do with your keyboard. |
| 07:25.27 | Drakh | not unless you use -i or if it's in your .bashrc |
| 07:25.30 | Guerin | ratonn: the kernel never prompts you for anything |
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| 07:25.35 | kevix | darkness, most configuration changed require loging out or restart the server |
| 07:25.43 | beardy | ratonn: linux doesn't care. |
| 07:25.47 | Drakh | btw, the * is not needed |
| 07:25.49 | darkness | I better reboot. |
| 07:25.54 | ratonn | Does Debian car?E |
| 07:25.56 | Drakh | wait |
| 07:26.03 | Drakh | without -f it would prompt for some things |
| 07:26.17 | beardy | ratonn: If you want it to. |
| 07:26.24 | kevix | darkness, you can restart X (no need for reboot) |
| 07:26.24 | Drakh | like, why the fuck are you deleting /etc |
| 07:26.32 | Guerin | ratonn: /bin/rm; if you ask it, will prompt you. |
| 07:26.41 | Guerin | ratonn: if you don't it'll just do what you tell it to. |
| 07:26.44 | ratonn | how od i make it care? |
| 07:26.47 | Drakh | rm -rf / |
| 07:26.51 | Drakh | that will not prompt you |
| 07:27.12 | beardy | ratonn: man rm |
| 07:27.14 | kevix | ratonn, ROOT usually has 'rm' alias to 'rm -i' for saftey |
| 07:27.17 | john | -i will ask i believe |
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| 07:27.31 | Drakh | debian does not do that by default for root |
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| 07:28.51 | ratonn | i'm always scare when running rm -r * |
| 07:28.57 | kevix | Drakh, it seems it is in .bashrc for root but it is commented out |
| 07:29.00 | beardy | rm -i -rf foo, deletes foo, just like -rf does. |
| 07:29.30 | Drakh | rm -ri foo would prompt, i think |
| 07:29.54 | john | i deleted my home directory once..well, everything in it.. oh how fun that was :P |
| 07:30.00 | kevix | the -i means interactive (as in showing a prompt) |
| 07:30.01 | Drakh | oddly enough I've never used -i and I've never deleted anything by accident |
| 07:30.08 | beardy | john: Just take out the backup. |
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| 07:30.17 | beardy | Drakh: You will- |
| 07:30.18 | Drakh | I never type *, I specify the name or file |
| 07:30.19 | beardy | . |
| 07:30.22 | scruffy | ratonn: if you like a trash can type thingy, you could alias rm to cp $@ ~/Trash |
| 07:30.28 | Drakh | •beardy• I am careful |
| 07:31.06 | kevix | Drakh, one say you will not be...hehe |
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| 07:32.42 | dli | how to provide ntp server in a LAN? the configuration in /etc/ntp.conf ? |
| 07:32.52 | beardy | scruffy: Then why delete anything at all, if it wont save you space? Just leave it instead. alias rm to false :) |
| 07:33.16 | beardy | scruffy: or true, less whining then. |
| 07:33.46 | scruffy | beardy: course he might want to set up a cron job to empty Trash for some period I guess |
| 07:34.14 | nimak | heh, cron has a weird name |
| 07:34.19 | scruffy | beardy: at least it would save him from apparent oh-nos |
| 07:34.27 | Drakh | cron.. time.. cronometer |
| 07:34.30 | Drakh | makes sense to me |
| 07:34.34 | nimak | i should probably go to bed soon, im really sleep deprived |
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| 07:34.46 | beardy | scruffy: What's the point of it then? Once a day it will be deleted anyway. |
| 07:34.49 | Drakh | people not getting enough sleep has caused numerous incidents :p |
| 07:35.32 | scruffy | beardy: have you ever deleted something and immediately knew you made a big mistake? typos, etc? |
| 07:35.33 | sparr | . |
| 07:35.57 | beardy | scruffy: Yes, that's why I think it through before doing it. |
| 07:36.17 | Drakh | people have this bad habbit of pressing enter before looking at what they typed |
| 07:36.25 | bannedit | hehe |
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| 07:40.48 | YaleR | can somebody help me with apache and mime settings? I can't seem to get binaries to open as plain text |
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| 07:41.30 | beardy | YaleR: Why would you want that? And isn't that all up to the client? |
| 07:42.13 | dnagenie | dpkg |
| 07:42.14 | YaleR | beardy, simply because I like my textfiles without the .txt extention |
| 07:42.20 | dnagenie | dpkg nvidia |
| 07:42.20 | dpkg | i heard nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
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| 07:42.40 | Drakh | but in unix extensions are simply a visual thing |
| 07:42.56 | YaleR | Drakh, yeah, but apache still uses mime |
| 07:42.57 | Guerin | YaleR: set the default mime type to text/plain |
| 07:43.01 | Drakh | ioc |
| 07:43.04 | Drakh | ...oic |
| 07:43.05 | YaleR | Guerin, I tried :/ |
| 07:43.06 | beardy | YaleR: Why make it hard for everyone else to see what the file is? |
| 07:43.38 | Guerin | YaleR: not hard enought, apparently |
| 07:43.44 | YaleR | Guerin, I know :( |
| 07:44.11 | YaleR | application/octet-stream is the original for bin |
| 07:44.14 | YaleR | I removed it from there |
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| 07:44.27 | YaleR | and added it to text/plain |
| 07:44.41 | YaleR | then restarted apache :/ |
| 07:45.32 | YaleR | I'm assuming bin = binary. |
| 07:45.32 | cavediver | Hi guys, I have a problem storing >2GB files on the stock nfs-user-server in sarge. Is there a fix for this ? |
| 07:45.33 | Gnea | YaleR: .txt is there for a reason. |
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| 07:45.37 | bannedit | cavediver, that may be a kernel limitation |
| 07:45.41 | YaleR | Gnea, so? |
| 07:45.48 | cavediver | bannedit: ohh really ? Tell me more. |
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| 07:45.56 | kevix | YaleR, it seems odd to go 10 miles out of the way just to avoid using the '.txt' convention. that seems like needless effort |
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| 07:46.07 | Gnea | YaleR: why do you want to break an established protocol? |
| 07:46.09 | Drakh | oh yea, is there a reason why I can't upload a 6gig file to ext3 over ftp on sarge kernel 2.4 |
| 07:46.20 | bannedit | I don't know much about it but the 2GB limit sounds familiar |
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| 07:46.37 | scruffy | YaleR: not sure what you've done, but my quick test says my Debian's default apache install sends a file called 'foo' as Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 |
| 07:46.37 | Drakh | 2gig limit.. what the freaking hell |
| 07:46.39 | cavediver | bannedit: ok. Really annoyng :) Everything else works great. |
| 07:46.45 | SimonRaven | Gnea: used to be .doc until M$hit 'took it over' |
| 07:46.54 | YaleR | my old installation of apache did this normally.... I don't know why it changed |
| 07:47.14 | YaleR | scruffy, yeah, I dunno! its gone and changed on meh |
| 07:47.27 | Guerin | Drakh: what ftp client? |
| 07:47.33 | SimonRaven | might want to look at the mimetype settings |
| 07:47.36 | Drakh | client is bpftp, server is vsftpd |
| 07:47.38 | SimonRaven | YaleR: ^^^ |
| 07:47.48 | Gnea | SimonRaven: kinda how like 15 years ago, only 5% of all 65535 default ports were actually used |
| 07:47.56 | YaleR | scruffy, do me a favour and post you mime.types file? |
| 07:48.00 | Guerin | Drakh: use lftp or a client which has >2G filesize support |
| 07:48.06 | beardy | SimonRaven: That has to be a long long time ago, since old .doc files usually are written by M$ Word for DOS. |
| 07:48.08 | YaleR | SimonRaven, yeah, I've tried |
| 07:48.18 | Drakh | Guerin thanks man |
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| 07:48.27 | Guerin | Drakh: i blame bulletproof, which was great in its day ... but its day was ~ 1997 |
| 07:48.39 | welson | Drakh, what client were you using? I seem to have a limit as well with a front-end client for >2G.. |
| 07:48.40 | Guerin | it was actually written by a FOAF |
| 07:48.42 | Drakh | btw i think the file limit is 2 tB |
| 07:48.47 | SimonRaven | beardy: yeh, it is |
| 07:49.08 | welson | Drakh, k..(dam me) |
| 07:49.13 | SimonRaven | Gnea: now a lot of them are, if not all |
| 07:49.19 | SimonRaven | YaleR: ok |
| 07:49.21 | Gnea | SimonRaven: precisely. |
| 07:49.26 | kevix | Guerin, so it could be a) program limitation (not HIMEM) and/or FS limit (2GB/file)? |
| 07:49.55 | welson | !docsis |
| 07:50.03 | Gnea | Drakh: yeah but they're talking about NFS |
| 07:50.06 | Guerin | kevix: ext3 supports files orders of magnitude bigger than 2G on 32 bit, as does vsftpd; so I'd blame the client. |
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| 07:50.11 | welson | anyone familiar with docsis? |
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| 07:50.19 | Gnea | welson: i have a cable modem. |
| 07:50.23 | Gnea | :) |
| 07:50.28 | Drakh | I just checked.. ext3 supports 2TB files |
| 07:50.32 | scruffy | YaleR: http://channels.debian.net/paste/952 |
| 07:50.40 | YaleR | scruffy, thanks a bunch |
| 07:50.46 | Drakh | so.. let me find another client |
| 07:50.47 | bannedit | cavediver, you might also want to see if the server has large file support |
| 07:50.54 | scruffy | YaleR: no problem |
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| 07:50.57 | Guerin | Drakh: try filezilla, on windows |
| 07:51.08 | Guerin | Drakh: .sf.net |
| 07:51.09 | bannedit | Drakh, yea I just checked aswell |
| 07:51.25 | bannedit | its likely a client/server problem then |
| 07:51.34 | Drakh | ill try filezilla |
| 07:51.34 | sparr | what software can i use to record a video of whats on my screen? |
| 07:51.47 | welson | Gnea, I have a cable modem too, and my problem is that packets sent to my router is receiving 10.x.x.1>224.0.0.13 packets IGMP packets.. wondering if you've seen anything like this in your logs.. |
| 07:51.48 | dnagenie | dpkg nvidia-one liner |
| 07:51.59 | dnagenie | dpkg nvidia |
| 07:51.59 | dpkg | hmm... nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 07:52.14 | beardy | dnagenie: /msg the bot |
| 07:52.22 | welson | Gnea, I mean it's bombarding every second like this in the logs-- which isn't normal |
| 07:52.31 | Gnea | welson: it's probably the specification uploaded from your isp that's causing it |
| 07:52.39 | Gnea | welson: in linux syslogs? |
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| 07:53.14 | nimak | can i get the windows key to do anything fun? |
| 07:53.16 | welson | Gnea, I'm soon going to put a linux gateway station in place of a little routing box (dlink).. |
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| 07:53.49 | Gnea | welson: ah ok - yeah do that and see if it still catches the same thing |
| 07:53.50 | beardy | !confuse nimak |
| 07:53.52 | dpkg | No, how is our pants today, nimak? pants of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra anchovies |
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| 07:54.18 | Drakh | Gnea, you were right, it was BPftp. Filezilla works fine.. and it is free! |
| 07:54.28 | Gnea | beardy: farting clouds of mushrooms and raining badgers |
| 07:54.31 | Drakh | this sf.net you speak of, is it better in your opinion |
| 07:54.33 | welson | Gnea, btw, on stupid xp machines in the lan here, WINS is being assigned the modem's ip (192.168.100.1) wondering how come, this is what I don't understand-- the only active element on the modem is port 80 telling if the modem is active or not.. |
| 07:54.56 | nimak | wtf |
| 07:55.00 | beardy | Gnea: it sure is, and they are big too |
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| 07:55.51 | welson | Gnea, wondering if you've tried or heard anything about openstep, have you? hheheh.. |
| 07:56.01 | Gnea | welson: sounds hoaky - i've heard mixed reviews of dlink routers.. surely there must be a way to configure that |
| 07:56.20 | scruffy | YaleR: I just discovered `apt-cache show mime-support` as that package is mentioned in the header of mime.types |
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| 07:56.28 | Gnea | welson: openstep? |
| 07:56.39 | Drakh | •welson• that would be a no |
| 07:56.51 | YaleR | scruffy, hmm |
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| 07:56.54 | kevix | sparr, vnc2swf maybe useful |
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| 07:57.12 | beardy | Drakh: What's with those strange things surrounding the nick you reply too? |
| 07:57.14 | eugenesan | hi all, who can tell me what exectly acures at 6:26 in debian? It seems that some of my shell scripts got killed at that moment :-( |
| 07:57.20 | welson | Gnea, it's an uncapping program binary made for w32..but I don't dare to try it-- I was wondering if I can use it to study my modem's profile as I'm getting down in the basement too often to reset the modem.. |
| 07:57.44 | Drakh | beardy, my ridiculous script does it |
| 07:57.47 | YaleR | scruffy, I have it, still isn't working |
| 07:57.54 | beardy | eugenesan: shell scripts got killed? What do you mean, some that were running, or did they get deleted? |
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| 07:58.09 | beardy | Drakh: Turn it off? |
| 07:58.10 | YaleR | I may try using an access file to change the mimetype for the directory |
| 07:58.19 | Gnea | welson: what modem do you have? if it's older, you may want to get something newer... |
| 07:58.22 | YaleR | we'll see hw that goes :/ |
| 07:58.24 | Drakh | beardy, what's the big deal |
| 07:58.59 | Drakh | I'll just type , instead of : and it won't do it |
| 07:59.01 | scruffy | YaleR: oh boy, I see now. Add this to httpd.conf: DefaultType text/plain |
| 07:59.03 | Drakh | good enough? |
| 07:59.06 | kevix | eugenesan, logrotate ! cron ! |
| 07:59.10 | welson | Gnea, the thing is that I got the latest firmware, but I'm reluctant to even update my modem-- there may be some benefits, but I'm afraid it would harm communicating in having the isp upload the profile |
| 07:59.21 | scruffy | YaleR: be sure to reload apache |
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| 07:59.47 | eugenesan | beardy: i have system with couple of game servers, they monitored and controlled by shell scripts. But few time at week i found that they are not running and game logs stpeed at 6:26:26 every moring... |
| 07:59.51 | YaleR | scruffy, I tried that first, it didn't work |
| 08:00.05 | sk8r44m | does anybody know how i can have my /var/log/messages logrotated? |
| 08:00.08 | scruffy | YaleR: DefaultType didn't work? |
| 08:00.12 | welson | Gnea, the mentioning of anything to maintain the modem for my isp is not supported, but it's possible I might be able to improve it-- have you ever done an update? |
| 08:00.20 | Gnea | welson: if you have a changelog for the firmware, read over it carefully - generally firmware upgrades that are specific to a model # and whatnot will not hamper regular functions (talking to the isp would be a regular function, for instance) |
| 08:00.29 | tremor | Drakh: which client do you use? |
| 08:00.42 | kevix | eugenesan, check your root cron jobs |
| 08:00.43 | scruffy | YaleR: check `grep -r 'DefaultType' /etc/apache/*` |
| 08:00.48 | Gnea | welson: no, but i've used and encountered many different cable modems |
| 08:00.48 | beardy | eugenesan: what does 'cat /etc/debian_version' say? |
| 08:00.51 | Drakh | mirc, with the invision script |
| 08:01.05 | YaleR | /etc/apache/httpd.conf:DefaultType text/plain |
| 08:01.11 | sk8r44m | almost all files get rotated except messages |
| 08:01.27 | YaleR | I switched back to that first thing |
| 08:01.34 | tremor | Drakh: ah ok. in xchat here the tab does like in my console |
| 08:01.34 | kevix | sk8r44m, so add it to the log rotate scripts |
| 08:01.43 | Gnea | welson: i probably could if i needed to, but at this point i have no reason to, since my isp is kind enough to offer an extremely fast package these days |
| 08:01.52 | welson | Gnea, hehe, is there some peripheral I can use to replace it? say a card with linux running ? |
| 08:02.35 | Gnea | welson: i doubt it, although i've heard of some PCI roadrunner cards floating around - you may want to find out if those work with your isp or not |
| 08:02.37 | scruffy | YaleR: telnet to apache (telnet ip.ad.dr.ess 80) and try to GET the file. What Content-type does Apache serve up? |
| 08:02.53 | sk8r44m | 2 kevix: I added it to /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 08:02.53 | welson | Gnea, wondering if there's such a thing, I believe there's latency, I've forced my dlink router to go 1472 on the mtu |
| 08:02.53 | scruffy | YaleR: GET /path/to/file HTTP/1.0 |
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| 08:03.33 | YaleR | scruffy, just shows the file plaintext |
| 08:03.42 | Gnea | welson: that's speculating a bit too far, but that's not necessarily a bad thing - i'd get the linux box up and running and have it function as a router and see what happens then |
| 08:03.52 | welson | Gnea, I feel deranged, but I must wonder what's illegal or not-- I'm afraid that because the MAC i'm using, say I were able to, is different, or try anything-- that I lose my isp subscription.. |
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| 08:04.07 | benny | how do I burn a cd image to cd |
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| 08:04.20 | Gnea | welson: do you own the cable modem or is it rented from the isp? |
| 08:04.30 | Gnea | benny: k3b |
| 08:04.39 | rafx | 5 pounds of flax |
| 08:04.41 | scruffy | YaleR: You don't see a HTTP/1.1 200 OK followed by some stuff then a Content-Type line? |
| 08:04.52 | darkness | Okay i've just confirmed that my keyboard settings is uk.However the keymap is still wrong? |
| 08:04.53 | eugenesan | beardy: it's 3.1 and in cron only one suspect, it's chkrootkit... |
| 08:05.01 | Gnea | metallic arms like jax |
| 08:05.07 | YaleR | scruffy, no, just the file |
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| 08:05.43 | beardy | eugenesan: Does it get run at that time, when the scripts stop? |
| 08:05.49 | YaleR | scruffy, perhaps because the file starts with a #!!!! |
| 08:05.52 | scruffy | YaleR: are you using telnet, or the 'GET' system command? |
| 08:05.57 | YaleR | i'm foolish for only testing with that |
| 08:06.09 | welson | Gnea, it's bought, we're able to buy these videotron isp kits in shops-- what difference can it make? |
| 08:06.28 | eugenesan | beardy: chkrootkit is in daily cron, as far as i know they runs at 6:26... |
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| 08:06.30 | YaleR | oh I'm so foolish :P |
| 08:06.35 | YaleR | scruffy, that solved it -_- |
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| 08:06.49 | YaleR | thanks for all the help! I'm sorry |
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| 08:07.05 | Gnea | welson: well i don't know how it works up there (i'm in the states heh) but here if i were to change my mac, i would just phone the cable co and inform them, and some tech would simply replace it on the spot. |
| 08:07.11 | michal_ | god damn regular expressions are difficult :/ |
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| 08:07.31 | scruffy | YaleR: no problem, glad you figured it out at least. |
| 08:07.32 | beardy | eugenesan: What does these scripts do? Do they have anything to do with logs, that would get rotated at that time too? |
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| 08:07.58 | welson | Gnea, guess I'll have to rtfm their subscription and isp policies :).. |
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| 08:08.22 | beardy | That makes no sense |
| 08:08.29 | eugenesan | beardy: no they have their own logrotate procedure, and has nothing to with system's functionality... |
| 08:08.31 | Gnea | welson: a wise choice :) |
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| 08:09.52 | beardy | eugenesan: I can't think of anything else to why those scripts should stop, since I don't know what they actually do. |
| 08:10.29 | welson | Gnea, so how fast mbit is your upload bandwidth? |
| 08:10.53 | eugenesan | beardy: i know, but it seems that they got wiped by something, their lock files left in their places, and gameservers receives TERM at that time... |
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| 08:11.12 | Gnea | welson: 1Mbit |
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| 08:11.16 | eugenesan | beardy: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/spiele:server:sysvinit_ut2004 |
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| 08:12.12 | beardy | eugenesan: #ubuntu |
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| 08:14.00 | eugenesan | beardy: no ubuntu has nothing to with it, and i run debian. This is universal script |
| 08:14.49 | eugenesan | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.52 | beardy | eugenesan: how should I know? |
| 08:16.08 | rafx | oops...this link, found on http://packages.debian.org/stable/interpreters/ruby1.8 as "Debian changelog", is dead: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/ruby1.8/ruby1.8_1.8.2-7sarge2/changelog |
| 08:16.30 | welson | Gnea, mind me asking, is it possible WINS can be included from a dhcp offer response for winbloze machines? (i'm getting 192.168.100.1 which is the ip for the modem) |
| 08:16.57 | Gnea | welson: it's entirely conceivable. |
| 08:17.05 | welson | Gnea, as much as paranoid as I am, I have this box using an inbound filter for all reserved ip ranges :) |
| 08:17.13 | eugenesan | beardy: :-) thanks anyway |
| 08:17.20 | Drakh | I didn't know nix dhcp supported wins as a dhcp option |
| 08:17.38 | Gnea | welson: well, if you can get the dlink to not bother with any WINS options, you should be alright :) |
| 08:17.55 | Gnea | Drakh: it can |
| 08:18.07 | Drakh | wins is crap anyway |
| 08:18.09 | welson | Gnea, you know what I know, is that I can also ping 192.168.100.1, are you familiar with this? |
| 08:18.13 | Gnea | haha yeah |
| 08:18.38 | Gnea | welson: yes, if the host is not up then there is no response |
| 08:18.47 | bob2 | rafx: changelog links might be broken for testing-update packaes; you can file a bug in the normal bts on "packages.debian.org", I think |
| 08:18.48 | Drakh | who needs netBIOS over TCP/IP anyway |
| 08:18.50 | welson | Gnea, ok, thanks.. |
| 08:18.59 | Drakh | i guess suckers still on old networks ;/ |
| 08:19.19 | Gnea | welson: i'm not entirely sure what you're getting at, but ok, np |
| 08:20.16 | Drakh | welson |
| 08:20.17 | rafx | bob2: ok, thanks. looks like link in stable is dead. will file tomorrow if its still down |
| 08:20.30 | bob2 | rafx: great, thanks |
| 08:20.30 | Drakh | what kind of firewall are you using |
| 08:20.57 | welson | Gnea, well I'm planning in replacing this box, the thing is that I have a few things to set-> I'd like to setup a proxy server for http, and have a firewall on the linux gateway box |
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| 08:21.34 | Drakh | I take it the IP on your wan address is outside the 192.168.100.x subnet? |
| 08:21.53 | Drakh | This WINS server you speak of, you're not running it right |
| 08:22.00 | welson | Gnea, in it's place instead of thinking up of using a stupid active directory server, may yellow pages be the appropriate substitute? i'm also thinking of putting up freeswan or any other vpn that may work well.. |
| 08:22.07 | Drakh | because it would make no sense for your ISP to give you that IP address to your wan interface |
| 08:22.10 | welson | Drakh, no, not at all.. |
| 08:22.25 | welson | Drakh, but you know anything about DOCSis and cable modems? |
| 08:22.44 | Drakh | a little bit |
| 08:22.53 | Drakh | is your cable modem giving you a wins address? lol |
| 08:23.04 | Drakh | that's pretty messed up |
| 08:23.06 | welson | Drakh, y, it's the address of the modem |
| 08:23.31 | Drakh | could be a misconfiged file on the modem |
| 08:23.44 | Drakh | why the hell would they do that- I suppose you could phone and ask now couldn't ya? |
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| 08:23.46 | dnagenie | crap, how do i reconfigure ssh so gpg works with merillat |
| 08:23.49 | welson | Drakh, not just that, one some occasions, there were, in the logs, instantiated packets from 192.168.100.1:80 to my router's ip which is my net ip (the box I'm using is a NAT gateway) |
| 08:23.49 | Gnea | welson: you can pretty much do that all on one system with little problem, although i'm not sure about a yellow pages thing - openldap may be what you're looking or there.. squid is a solid proxy for http, and freeswan blows chunks - openvpn is extremely solid. |
| 08:24.41 | wathek | I need some help |
| 08:24.42 | Drakh | does openVPN support AD authentication |
| 08:24.49 | Gnea | AD? |
| 08:24.49 | welson | Gnea, okay, but I thought, to my guesses, that freeswan is supposed to be the most stable, am I wrong on this, or is openvpn the best what i'm looking for (basically can support windows and linux ?) |
| 08:24.51 | Drakh | (kerberos) |
| 08:24.54 | wathek | can I create DEB file for AMD64 |
| 08:25.12 | Gnea | !tell wathek about amd64 |
| 08:25.16 | davi_ | Could I use grip to ripper an ISO CD-AUIDO image ? |
| 08:25.22 | wathek | can I create DEB file for AMD64 with an IA32 ? |
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| 08:25.35 | Gnea | Drakh: not directly |
| 08:25.36 | welson | o ya, I tried setting up kerberos for a lan chat server, but it got me fouled up when I started reading on authentication servers-- kerberos 5 is complex.. |
| 08:25.55 | wathek | coz I don't have an AMD64 and I want to create some DEB for that architecture |
| 08:26.07 | dpower | 0.o |
| 08:26.10 | kevix | davi_, I started using a console ripper --- crip |
| 08:26.50 | davi_ | I suppose you pass the .iso file as a parameter. Right ? |
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| 08:27.32 | welson | Gnea, what about squid and if machines want to see multimedia streaming-- are there alternatvies to squid in mind? |
| 08:27.43 | welson | or anyone else? |
| 08:28.24 | Gnea | Drakh: welson freeswan requires kernel patches that really dig nails that can make the system bleed internally if things go awry, whereas openvpn utilizes its own authentication scheme - it also has windows client support |
| 08:28.26 | kevix | davi_, hmm. never tried it. but I guess if you specify /dev/loop1 instead of /dev/cdrom ... maybe it would work |
| 08:28.45 | davi_ | thanks Kevin`_ |
| 08:28.53 | Gnea | welson: well squid can be setup transparently, that's the ideal route to go - it makes streaming easier |
| 08:28.59 | welson | Drakh, okay, anything with the kernel getting patched requires fine-tuning.. |
| 08:29.11 | Kevin`_ | davi_ ? |
| 08:29.20 | davi_ | yes ? |
| 08:29.26 | Kevin`_ | what did I do |
| 08:29.33 | davi_ | sorry It was a mistake |
| 08:29.37 | Kevin`_ | ah |
| 08:30.54 | Drakh | does openvpn have a windows client or do you use the native window software to connect |
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| 08:31.59 | welson | Drakh, i guess it depends what windows-- m$ should have something for their clients if it pertains to the issue |
| 08:32.00 | Kevin` | openvpn has a windows client/server |
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| 08:32.07 | dnagenie | man, i've done 2 installs... as soon as i finish a dist-upgrade -u i have dependencies issues with udev hal and discover |
| 08:32.14 | dnagenie | i'm using etch(testing) |
| 08:32.31 | dnagenie | any help please? |
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| 08:33.16 | wathek | !tell wathek amd64 |
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| 08:33.32 | kevix | dnagenie, are you upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12? |
| 08:33.42 | Gnea | !amd64 |
| 08:33.43 | dpkg | amd64 is, like, See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 08:33.54 | wathek | ok thanx Gnea |
| 08:33.54 | wathek | :D |
| 08:33.59 | Gnea | np |
| 08:34.05 | dnagenie | well, i'm just trying to use the 2.6. generic kernel |
| 08:34.20 | dnagenie | do i need to upgrade and i think i've tried and that upgrade depends on udev |
| 08:34.41 | kevix | dnagenie, so you are not using a debian kernel image? |
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| 08:35.04 | dnagenie | yes i'm using debian kernal default image |
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| 08:35.29 | dnagenie | 2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 08:35.39 | idilux | was ist derzeit so die halbwegs brauchbarste windwos-emulation? |
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| 08:35.42 | welson | Drakh, have you worked with AD-forests? |
| 08:35.44 | kevix | dnagenie, ok. so what is the 'issue'. |
| 08:35.53 | dpower | idilux: wine |
| 08:35.58 | kevix | !de |
| 08:35.58 | dpkg | hmm... de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 08:35.59 | dnagenie | well, i'm trying to do the nvidia one-liner |
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| 08:36.03 | Guerin | dnagenie: install linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 |
| 08:36.14 | dnagenie | it worked for me in the past on another box |
| 08:36.23 | kevix | !german |
| 08:36.23 | dpkg | german is, like, #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 08:36.27 | Guerin | dnagenie: don't bother doing anything on testing unstil you install that kernel, or udev will go bye bye |
| 08:36.30 | idilux | dachte wine wird schon lange nicht merh so vorantreibend entwickelt? oder ist das so nicht richtig? |
| 08:36.32 | Drakh | •welson• I'm a windows domain administrator |
| 08:36.35 | Drakh | ugh.. |
| 08:36.38 | Guerin | dnagenie: things change in testing |
| 08:36.42 | Gnea | shmem.C: In function 'int attach_shmem(key_t, void**)': |
| 08:36.43 | Gnea | shmem.C:132: error: cast from 'void*' to 'int' loses precision |
| 08:36.44 | Guerin | dnagenie: get a real irc client |
| 08:36.47 | Gnea | sonuva... |
| 08:36.48 | dpower | !po |
| 08:36.49 | dpkg | from memory, po is Piss Off or Post Office |
| 08:36.54 | dnagenie | ? |
| 08:37.00 | Guerin | bah |
| 08:37.08 | Guerin | Drakh: get a real irc client |
| 08:37.09 | dnagenie | i think i'm using irc |
| 08:37.16 | dnagenie | so this must be real |
| 08:37.21 | Drakh | •Guerin• What exactly does real mean |
| 08:37.26 | Gnea | egads |
| 08:37.30 | dnagenie | ok so should i use stable only? |
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| 08:37.34 | welson | Drakh, there's something new--I read about an AD extension for Linux machines-- looking for the site again.. |
| 08:37.45 | Drakh | welson, that sounds interesting |
| 08:37.46 | Gnea | Drakh: the characters have got to stop, please. |
| 08:37.48 | Guerin | Drakh: one that doesn't put fucktarded U's around nicks |
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| 08:38.16 | Guerin | dnagenie: if you want to use testing, use it - just be advised that it changes. |
| 08:38.23 | dnagenie | i understand that |
| 08:38.25 | Gnea | Guerin: perhaps the U's enjoy fucktarding |
| 08:38.28 | dnagenie | i want xorg |
| 08:38.35 | dnagenie | better support for my screen |
| 08:38.36 | Guerin | dnagenie: so use testing. |
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| 08:38.42 | Guerin | dnagenie: do what I told you |
| 08:38.45 | dnagenie | that's what i'm trying to do |
| 08:38.54 | dnagenie | myapt sources are testing |
| 08:38.57 | wathek | some one has an idea about deb cross ? |
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| 08:39.09 | Guerin | wathek: eh? |
| 08:39.17 | dnagenie | i apt-get dist-upgrade -u |
| 08:39.24 | dnagenie | and now i've got udev conflicts |
| 08:39.30 | kds | anyone with a windows box in front? |
| 08:39.31 | wathek | or something like that which help to create AMD64 DEB under a IA32 ? |
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| 08:39.36 | dnagenie | does anyone know of a fix or a lead to one please |
| 08:40.00 | dpower | kds: Why? |
| 08:40.01 | Gnea | dnagenie: first of all, never lead off with dist-upgrade, alway start at upgrade |
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| 08:40.05 | Kevin` | kds in front? |
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| 08:40.23 | kds | I mean PC running windows |
| 08:40.24 | dnagenie | i did that |
| 08:40.25 | Gnea | dnagenie: second, use aptitude to switch between the 2 |
| 08:40.33 | dnagenie | aptitude.. |
| 08:40.38 | brosioz | ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA |
| 08:40.38 | brosioz | hda: HP COLORADO 5GB, ATAPI TAPE drive |
| 08:40.40 | Gnea | aptitude. |
| 08:40.48 | Kevin` | I have a pc that runs windows, it's not on |
| 08:40.48 | kds | Kevin`: just wanted to test a webpage I have, if it opens with IE! |
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| 08:40.55 | calljair | guys I am creating a debian = firewall with ip tables. |
| 08:40.56 | brosioz | i found this dmesg |
| 08:40.59 | brosioz | but in /dev |
| 08:41.04 | brosioz | there isn't hda |
| 08:41.05 | dpower | kds; link? |
| 08:41.05 | brosioz | :°° |
| 08:41.08 | Drakh | calljair that is good |
| 08:41.08 | brosioz | why this ? |
| 08:41.24 | kds | http://ghaint.no-ip.org/~k2/moz/nvul10n.xhtml |
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| 08:41.33 | calljair | Drakh, yes I am doing it with iptables and shorewall. |
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| 08:41.41 | Drakh | what is shorewall |
| 08:41.43 | Guerin | calljair: why do we care? |
| 08:41.44 | Drakh | I keep hearing about it |
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| 08:41.46 | kds | I only want to know if IE opens it......IE 6.0 |
| 08:41.50 | calljair | Drakh, have you ever try something like that? |
| 08:41.53 | Drakh | guerin must you be like that |
| 08:41.57 | Drakh | I CARE |
| 08:41.57 | dnagenie | graggh |
| 08:42.03 | Guerin | !htfswk kds |
| 08:42.04 | dnagenie | so i must reinstall ths hated machine |
| 08:42.04 | dpkg | kds: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 08:42.07 | calljair | Guerin, because you are my best boddies :) |
| 08:42.08 | dpower | ikds: it works |
| 08:42.11 | Kevin` | kds heh heh.. links broswer shows it as xml |
| 08:42.12 | dpower | kds: |
| 08:42.25 | Drakh | calljair I haven't used shorewall |
| 08:42.26 | calljair | Guerin, here I feel like in family |
| 08:42.31 | Drakh | I've used iptables before, it's good |
| 08:42.32 | Guerin | !aww |
| 08:42.32 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 08:42.40 | kds | yes, it is. I just added an entry in .mime.types to send text/html for xhtml files |
| 08:42.41 | calljair | Drakh, you did the iptables by hand. |
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| 08:42.53 | Drakh | ahh it's a netfilter frontend |
| 08:42.56 | Kevin` | kds it sent it as something not that |
| 08:42.57 | kds | dpkg: thats why I asked first :X |
| 08:42.58 | Drakh | nah I used quicktables |
| 08:43.04 | Gnea | MY HANDS ARE FALLING OFF OF MY FINGERS AND OMFG |
| 08:43.06 | Gnea | </troll> |
| 08:43.08 | welson | Drakh, yah, it was in circulation already, wondering how good it is though-- http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1765641,00.asp |
| 08:43.08 | kds | Kevin`: not html? |
| 08:43.09 | Drakh | I'm not leet enough to write the rules by hand |
| 08:43.10 | Kevin` | application/xhtml+xml |
| 08:43.10 | calljair | Drakh, I am trying to make sure of how i will really connect from the ISP |
| 08:43.12 | wathek | :))) |
| 08:43.25 | beardy | !confuse Gnea |
| 08:43.26 | dpkg | Yes, who is their bacon yesterday, Gnea? wellies of the democracy of swaziland with extra anchovies |
| 08:43.37 | kds | Kevin`: ok. thanks a lot. |
| 08:43.40 | dpower | !confuse dpower |
| 08:43.41 | dpkg | No, what is your badger tomorrow, dpower? breeches of the republic of belarus with extra herring |
| 08:43.43 | dpower | hehe |
| 08:43.45 | beardy | Hmm, is it always anchovies? |
| 08:43.51 | Drakh | welson, thanks for the article I'll read it |
| 08:43.56 | beardy | Guess not. |
| 08:44.11 | Gnea | the cheese of coincidence will maintain an active residence of electrical tuna within the borders of the frying pan |
| 08:44.11 | bob2 | !+seen mgk25 |
| 08:44.11 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'mgk25', bob2 |
| 08:44.11 | Drakh | calljair, just make sure you have the dhcp port opened |
| 08:44.31 | cast | probably a nonsical question but: can i grab a video of xwindows? ffmpeg will record from a video device, now im curious as to if one can make a movie your desktop? |
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| 08:45.00 | beardy | HAHAHA |
| 08:45.02 | Gnea | cast: it is possible, but i'm not entirely sure how.. i think raster did that |
| 08:45.20 | Drakh | bah it's not free |
| 08:45.24 | Guerin | cast: google. there are howtos for this |
| 08:45.33 | calljair | Drakh, like for example the order I should place all the hardware will be: (ISP) --> |debian_firewall|--> (local network)? |
| 08:45.36 | Drakh | well why am I surprised it has to do wtih microsoft |
| 08:45.44 | cast | Guerin: roger |
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| 08:45.50 | morluk | hello |
| 08:45.52 | Drakh | calljair yes, what kind of internet connection do you have |
| 08:46.02 | calljair | Drakh, I have DSL |
| 08:46.12 | Drakh | is it always online or do you have to dial in |
| 08:46.43 | calljair | Drakh, always online :) |
| 08:46.48 | Gnea | microsoft, the soft conglomerate of stature that provides the food to billions of apathetic morons who want to sit on the asses of thier undoing so their minds can melt into the pixelized universe that is The Daily Show |
| 08:46.52 | kevix | cast, I'm fiddling with xvidcap now. |
| 08:47.12 | Guerin | ah, xvidcap was the app I was thinking of |
| 08:47.18 | wathek | :)) |
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| 08:47.34 | Gnea | beardy: how's that? :) |
| 08:47.43 | Drakh | (internet) <-> (dsl modem) <-> (wan port of firewall) <-> firewall <-> (lan port) <-> (internal network) |
| 08:47.46 | Drakh | make sense? |
| 08:47.50 | beardy | Gnea: How's what? |
| 08:48.00 | kevix | Guerin, it seems to SEGFAULT on anything other than xwd format. any idea? |
| 08:48.05 | Gnea | beardy: read my bit just now regarding microsoft |
| 08:48.09 | Guerin | xwd? |
| 08:48.32 | Drakh | Gnea where the hell did that come from |
| 08:48.35 | kevix | Guerin, x win dump (?) its a xwin native format |
| 08:48.37 | Gnea | Drakh: thin air. |
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| 08:48.47 | Drakh | well it was incorrect |
| 08:48.59 | calljair | Drakh, so, currently I have this: (internet) <-> (dsl modem) <-> (dlink router wan portl) <-> <-> (lan port) <-> (internal network) ;) |
| 08:49.05 | cast | kevix: ahh, that looks like what i want. was afraid i'd need a card to do it |
| 08:49.11 | Drakh | calljair looks fine |
| 08:49.13 | Gnea | it is? |
| 08:49.18 | Gnea | Drakh: prove it. |
| 08:49.24 | beardy | Gnea: How does that provide food exactly? |
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| 08:49.43 | Drakh | food was a metaphor I believe |
| 08:49.56 | Drakh | He is just being sillly |
| 08:49.59 | kevix | cast, I did it, and no card. |
| 08:50.21 | calljair | Drakh, but this dlink router have PAT and NAT feature, also I have the wireless conection from it. |
| 08:50.34 | Gnea | beardy: well, microsoft has these people, typically called employees... every so often, these employees enjoy a regulated range of dollars and cents... within those amounts of times, gasoline-powered vehicles move them around to these things called grocery stores and mcdonalds........ |
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| 08:50.42 | Gnea | :) |
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| 08:50.53 | Drakh | Microsoft is not anyones undoing, they are just a company that is doing well and has many competitors. Companies like Google, apple, and movments such as Open Source keep them on their toes. They will most likely go away eventually |
| 08:51.11 | SimonRaven | like most things |
| 08:51.17 | groulder | ever since upgrading my postfix sid package, my postfix/amavis connection is broken. |
| 08:51.24 | Drakh | saying silly things like that is a bit overzealous, and I feel sorry for those who believe it |
| 08:51.31 | welson | okay, gnite everyone :).. |
| 08:51.34 | Drakh | blah blah microsoft evil this blah blah |
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| 08:51.40 | beardy | Gnea: I guess "irc on sundays" can replace "microsoft" in that sentence. |
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| 08:51.59 | Gnea | Drakh: oh, so that wouldn't happen to do with the fact that a US city was nearly destroyed by a natural phenomona recently |
| 08:52.13 | Drakh | wtf does microsoft have to do with that |
| 08:52.25 | calljair | Drakh, I agree |
| 08:52.26 | beardy | There's always coming a more evil company after the ones that are now, so don't worry. |
| 08:52.31 | Gnea | everything and nothing! |
| 08:52.33 | Gnea | :) |
| 08:52.34 | Guerin | bah |
| 08:52.45 | coreid | does anyone know of a good introduction to chk_rcpt rules in sendmail configuration? |
| 08:52.54 | Drakh | Gnea there is no point there, but I'm glad you're having fun |
| 08:52.56 | calljair | Drakh, so all i will need to do is remove the wireless router and then disable the dhcp on it right? |
| 08:52.59 | Gnea | Drakh: microsoft has as much to do with it as GE and motorola do. |
| 08:53.09 | Gnea | Drakh: oh i'm having a blast |
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| 08:53.19 | Gnea | and i need it too |
| 08:53.44 | Drakh | calljair do you need wireless? |
| 08:53.46 | Gnea | otherwise i would be tempted to empty spray cans of paint onto certain surfaces |
| 08:54.06 | coreid | we get lots of connections of type: "Received: our.domain.com (some-isp-ip-with-domain (isp-ip))" how to block these ? |
| 08:54.11 | Drakh | you can just plug the lan interface into the wan interface on your dlink and have 2 firewalls going |
| 08:54.34 | ZEA | is there a way to find out which packages are not in use (packages that are not needed because no other package depends on them)? this happens a lot removing a package and not remembering all the packages that were installed because of it |
| 08:54.37 | Drakh | I guess that would add extra mainenance |
| 08:54.42 | Gnea | coreid: ditch sendmail and install exim4 |
| 08:54.47 | Drakh | but you can most likely disable the firewall on it so you can keep your wireless |
| 08:55.02 | Drakh | no need to disable DHCP on it unles you want to get rid of the thing and run dhcp on your nat box |
| 08:55.08 | Gnea | coreid: it has a compatibility layer |
| 08:55.10 | Drakh | nat/iptables |
| 08:55.17 | coreid | Gnea: can't do that here |
| 08:55.25 | Gnea | coreid: hrmmm.. not sure then |
| 08:55.37 | coreid | ZEA: look at deborphan |
| 08:55.46 | SimonRaven | ZEA: deborphan, and debfoster |
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| 08:56.07 | SimonRaven | @tell exploder -about root |
| 08:56.11 | ZEA | thanks |
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| 08:56.50 | kelan | ZEA: if you start using aptitude to install packages, it will keep track for you and automatically uninstall dependencies that are no longer needed |
| 08:57.01 | beardy | is it only on "root" nicks apt will bite? |
| 08:57.33 | SimonRaven | yeh. people are sarting to irc with daemon, www-data, .... |
| 08:57.37 | SimonRaven | st* |
| 08:57.49 | SimonRaven | (uidnumber 1, 33) |
| 08:57.53 | beardy | why on earth for? |
| 08:58.00 | SimonRaven | or is it 2? hmm |
| 08:58.13 | SimonRaven | they think it's leet or something stupid |
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| 08:58.18 | Drakh | hmm vsftp is pretty fast, just transfered a large file over at 9.1MB/s on a 100mbit home network with a shitty switch |
| 08:58.23 | beardy | idiots.. |
| 08:58.30 | SimonRaven | yeh, 1 |
| 08:59.14 | SimonRaven | exploder: still root, and you can't speak anyway |
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| 08:59.21 | Drakh | SimonRaven by default it would start with whoever they are logged in as right? so they would have to explicitly start the client with that other user? |
| 08:59.34 | SimonRaven | or fake it |
| 08:59.46 | Drakh | hmm silly |
| 08:59.55 | Drakh | well time to hit the old trial... |
| 09:00.01 | Drakh | nite |
| 09:00.05 | SimonRaven | indeed. why expose yourself unnecessarily? |
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| 09:00.10 | SimonRaven | 'night |
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| 09:00.51 | SimonRaven | s/he's still on the network... |
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| 09:01.02 | Drakh | *trail |
| 09:01.02 | Gnea | y'know |
| 09:01.06 | beardy | exploder: Stop running as root. |
| 09:01.06 | calljair | Drakh, I think it is not problem then having two firewalls |
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| 09:01.23 | Drakh | calljair you can turn the firewall off on your router |
| 09:01.30 | Drakh | and just use the iptables box for filtering |
| 09:01.38 | Gnea | we sit here and always push people over to #debian-amd64 - but there's almost NEVER anyone there that actually pays attention and supports it |
| 09:01.42 | Drakh | that should eliminate some overhead/maintenance if you need to port map and so on |
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| 09:01.59 | dli | can I run an ssl-wrapped squid proxy? |
| 09:02.02 | SimonRaven | Gnea: people will eventually |
| 09:02.11 | SimonRaven | (hopefully =) |
| 09:02.12 | Guerin | coreid: http://www.acme.com/mail_filtering/ |
| 09:02.26 | Gnea | SimonRaven: with that many people in the channel, it shouldn't take so long |
| 09:02.29 | calljair | Drakh, I would like to test it here in my home first and then add squid and proxy servers to the fw debian box. |
| 09:02.48 | calljair | Drakh, but yes I need a wireless otherwise my wife will kill me ;) |
| 09:02.48 | Drakh | what's your main reason for using squid |
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| 09:03.08 | Drakh | from my understanding it does mainly webcaching? |
| 09:03.18 | Drakh | why would you do it on a home network |
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| 09:03.37 | dli | Drakh, I want to provide access to blocked websites for my friends |
| 09:03.38 | calljair | Drakh, actually all this tests and projects are thinking in my organization a couple of servers computer labs and desktop for offices in the same network |
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| 09:04.12 | calljair | Drakh, right it will speed up the conexion to the popular sites I go right? |
| 09:04.18 | elfriede | Hello. I'm trying to install cupsys on testing, but it wants gs-esp which wants xlibs > 4.1.0 which is for some reason not going to happen. Should I file a bug? |
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| 09:04.48 | Guerin | elfriede: testing has xlibs > 4.1.0 |
| 09:04.56 | calljair | Drakh, but is a computer lab where 15 peoples browse the internet constantly ? web caching will be good not just web caching other files too. |
| 09:05.05 | Guerin | elfriede: something else is broken |
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| 09:05.20 | elfriede | Guerin: yes, my version is 6.8.2 |
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| 09:05.41 | Drakh | calljair yea it would be useful for 15 users I guess |
| 09:05.43 | SimonRaven | there's a compat package of the same name |
| 09:05.53 | elfriede | Guerin: cupsys: Depends: gs-esp but it is not going to be installed |
| 09:05.58 | Drakh | anyway bed, for real |
| 09:06.12 | elfriede | gs-esp: Depends: libx11-6 but it is not going to be installed or xlibs (> 4.1.0) but it is not going to be installed |
| 09:06.25 | calljair | Drakh, haha me too, tomorrow go to the gym ;) |
| 09:06.46 | Guerin | elfriede: something is broken there. You're mixing sources, or something. |
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| 09:07.18 | dli | elfriede, first, check your sources.list |
| 09:07.22 | kevix | elfriede, what happens if you do 'apt-get install libx11-6' or 'xlibs' ? |
| 09:07.30 | elfriede | only line in sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 09:07.40 | elfriede | kevix: already installed |
| 09:07.42 | dli | elfriede, sometimes, you want to remove those packages, and then, apt-get install them |
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| 09:08.33 | elfriede | I'm trying a dist-upgrade, there seems to be a lot of packages that needs upgrading. I'll just update the entire system and then try again. |
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| 09:16.54 | hackeron | whats your favorite non konqueror/nautilus file browser? |
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| 09:17.01 | cast | mc |
| 09:17.04 | dondelelcaro | hackeron: /bin/sh |
| 09:17.53 | kevix | hackeron, ls |
| 09:18.08 | bbrazil | od |
| 09:18.31 | kevix | bbrazil, od is a file viewer! |
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| 09:18.50 | blaamann | I want to install OpenOffice 2, but is it possible to decide where the debs are going to be installed ? I have looked at the man dpkg pages without finding that it is possible. |
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| 09:19.51 | jshea | Is this a help channel? Or an open -discussion- channel? |
| 09:19.54 | Punko | how can i move many files from .asd to .mp3 ? |
| 09:20.04 | dpower | cp * |
| 09:20.16 | dpower | jshea: both |
| 09:20.16 | bob2 | Punko: with the "rename" command |
| 09:20.39 | cast | what is asd anyway? |
| 09:20.48 | marculix | Punko: man mv, rename ... |
| 09:20.54 | marculix | Punko: for i in `ls`; do mv $i `basename $i .asd`.mp3; done |
| 09:20.54 | Punko | bob2 i couldnt do it with rename |
| 09:20.54 | scruffy | hackeron: echo * |
| 09:21.07 | Punko | -:) |
| 09:21.10 | bob2 | Punko: sure you can |
| 09:21.12 | resiak | blaamann: I think that you have missed the point of a package manager. :) |
| 09:21.14 | bbrazil | kevix: and? |
| 09:21.22 | bob2 | Punko: rename s/.asd/.mp3/ *.asd |
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| 09:21.30 | bob2 | or so |
| 09:21.31 | Punko | aha |
| 09:21.33 | jshea | Are there any kernel hackers, or package maintainers here? |
| 09:21.34 | Punko | understood |
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| 09:21.37 | Punko | thanks bob2 |
| 09:21.51 | beardy | jshea: /msg dpkg ask |
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| 09:22.06 | bob2 | jshea: there are lots of maintainers here |
| 09:22.17 | bob2 | jshea: as beardy suggests, tho, it's way easier if you just ask your question |
| 09:22.34 | blaamann | resiak: So what do I do if I want to have several versions of an app in my system, for instance mozilla-firefox ? |
| 09:22.52 | jshea | bob2, I'm not here seeking help, merely discussion. |
| 09:23.14 | bob2 | jshea: guess you're in the wrong place, then |
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| 09:23.29 | jshea | bob2, that figures. |
| 09:23.29 | bob2 | it is a shame you just won't tell us whatever you think is so important to discuss |
| 09:23.46 | kevix | blaamann, the only thing that comes to mind is 'chroot'. I dont think any? apps are designed for this. |
| 09:23.49 | resiak | blaamann: Short answer: you don't. Long answer: you install non-package-managed versions in /usr/local |
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| 09:24.28 | benny | how do I get k3b to burn this .iso as a cd and not just burn the iso onto the disc |
| 09:24.49 | tuxuser19 | can anyone help me regarding updating pkgs |
| 09:25.00 | benny | what do you want to do tuxuser19 |
| 09:25.06 | bob2 | tuxuser19: just ask your question... |
| 09:25.07 | dpower | tuxuser19: /msg dpkg ask |
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| 09:25.16 | kevix | tuxuser19, what packages? how are you updating them? what version of debian? |
| 09:25.21 | beardy | benny: Check if there is a "Burn image" or something like that. |
| 09:25.27 | tuxuser19 | im trying to update the pkgs on Debian 3.1 |
| 09:25.33 | tuxuser19 | im trying thru apt-get update |
| 09:25.41 | dondelelcaro | !debian mantra |
| 09:25.41 | dpkg | somebody said debian mantra was "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" |
| 09:25.45 | tuxuser19 | but when i get into /etc/apt/sourcs.lst |
| 09:25.56 | tuxuser19 | sorry soorces.lst |
| 09:25.58 | resiak | !tell tuxuser19 -about enter |
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| 09:26.47 | tuxuser19 | sorry again /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 09:26.51 | benny | hey tux you in melb |
| 09:27.12 | scruffy | does apt-setup come with the default install? |
| 09:27.12 | resiak | tuxuser19: You mean /etc/apt/sources.list . But stop hitting enter after every three words and ask a coherent question! |
| 09:27.19 | blaamann | resiak , kevix , : The problem is when firefox and openoffice starts packaging only rpm and debs files. Then they make it more difficult for the user to install various versions. Web developers needs various versions, as well as support personell giving support to e.g openoffice like I do. |
| 09:27.25 | beardy | scruffy: Yes. |
| 09:27.28 | jshea | bob2, when I think of something important, and interesting enough to discuss, you'll be the first to know ;-) |
| 09:27.37 | dondelelcaro | scruffy: most people will have it, but it's not Essential:yes, so it's not in the "default install" |
| 09:27.45 | Gnea | grrr, can't find that url that explains how to sign a key for a repository... |
| 09:27.49 | blaamann | But perhaps debian is not for developers |
| 09:27.58 | tuxuser19 | oh im sorry fellas. |
| 09:28.00 | bob2 | blaamann: wtf |
| 09:28.04 | bob2 | blaamann: don't be silly |
| 09:28.08 | resiak | blaamann: The one-version-of-each-package thing is common to all distros |
| 09:28.22 | bob2 | blaamann: if you're a developer of anything, you'll be compiling and installing it yourself from source |
| 09:28.23 | dondelelcaro | blaamann: so you have multiple versions in a chroot using cdebootstrap or similar |
| 09:28.31 | bob2 | blaamann: so you do so, to /usr/local/ like you owuld normally |
| 09:28.35 | dondelelcaro | blaamann: or you just unpack them somewhere using dpkg-deb -x |
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| 09:29.07 | scruffy | dondelelcaro: I thought if it was, tuxuser19 might like to try it. |
| 09:29.11 | Gnea | this is so retawded. |
| 09:29.22 | scruffy | Gnea: heheh |
| 09:29.37 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: you don't need to sign the key, you just need to sign the releases file, and add the key using apt-key |
| 09:29.38 | blaamann | dondelelcaro: Thanks |
| 09:29.46 | blaamann | Good advice |
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| 09:31.24 | ircdevil | what is the difference between openoffice and bloatware? |
| 09:31.28 | Guerin | the thing that bugs me about the one-package thing is apps which sometimes DO need to be installed per-user |
| 09:31.33 | Guerin | or per-virtual-user |
| 09:31.47 | kevix | blaamann, I think a chroot will do this? no. |
| 09:31.51 | Guerin | i'm thinking of gallery and weblog software |
| 09:31.52 | scruffy | ircdevil: openoffice is bigger |
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| 09:32.01 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: ok then the key i added isn't at http://debian.csail.mit.edu/ |
| 09:32.23 | Gnea | pub 1024D/B5F5BBED 2005-04-24 uid Debian AMD64 Archive Key <debian-amd64@lists.debian.org> sub 2048g/34FC6FE5 2005-04-24 |
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| 09:32.36 | ircdevil | scruffy: exactly |
| 09:32.43 | resiak | Guerin: usemod-wiki's package comes with a handy wrapper so that it can be used per-user |
| 09:32.44 | Gnea | retawded. |
| 09:32.49 | dondelelcaro | !keys for apt |
| 09:32.49 | dpkg | keys for apt is, like, 'gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -', where <keyid> is the id apt is complaining about |
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| 09:33.24 | blaamann | kevix: Will look into it |
| 09:34.04 | beardy | apt: run |
| 09:34.05 | apt | ACTION runs round the world |
| 09:34.11 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: CMD: apt-key (.*?) is ($1): <reply> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys $1 ; gpg --export $1 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 09:34.11 | dpkg | ...but CMD: is already something else... |
| 09:34.11 | blaamann | OpenOffice is a life saver |
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| 09:35.04 | ircdevil | 250 mb source ... |
| 09:35.17 | dondelelcaro | !apt-key B5F5BBED |
| 09:35.18 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys B5F5BBED ; gpg --export B5F5BBED | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 09:35.19 | scruffy | blaamann: my UI fonts in OO.org are hopelessly small |
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| 09:36.20 | scruffy | blaamann: I fixed it once using some site, then the next upgrade reversed those changes, so I gave up. |
| 09:36.45 | Gnea | hrm |
| 09:36.55 | brosioz | how could i compile source.c that require windows.h on my linux box ? |
| 09:37.06 | dondelelcaro | brosioz: get windows.h and compile it. |
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| 09:37.36 | brosioz | dondelelcaro, where could i find it ? and then where sould i put it ? |
| 09:37.40 | dondelelcaro | !aasqgasa is <reply> Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. |
| 09:37.40 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 09:38.09 | valdyn | brosioz: why are you even trying to compile anything? |
| 09:38.21 | resiak | brosioz: Your best bet is to compile against wine, but why do you want to do this? |
| 09:38.23 | dondelelcaro | brosioz: google is your friend; it goes somewhere in your include path, set -I appropriately. |
| 09:38.56 | blaamann | scruffy: tools | options | view |
| 09:39.02 | Guerin | resiak: that's sort of what I need, but it gets tricky for multiple virtual hosts |
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| 09:39.13 | scruffy | blaamann: tried it, been there |
| 09:39.18 | resiak | Guerin: Yeah |
| 09:39.21 | blaamann | scruffy: And ? |
| 09:39.23 | Guerin | i just grab upstream tarballs and plonk them in the virtual user's webroot |
| 09:39.41 | scruffy | blaamann: nada. let me go look again |
| 09:40.06 | tuxuser19 | when i try to update the debian packages through apt-get. i get Err http://http.us.debian.org main/contrib Packages |
| 09:40.06 | tuxuser19 | Could not connect to http.us.debian.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out |
| 09:40.07 | tuxuser19 | 44% [Connecting to http.us.debian.org (1.0.0.0)] |
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| 09:40.18 | Guerin | tuxuser19: fix your dns |
| 09:40.19 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: oh, i had to apt-get update after installing the key.. HEH |
| 09:40.27 | tuxuser19 | hpw to do that? |
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| 09:40.31 | blaamann | scruffy: It works for me on testing, OO 1.1.4 |
| 09:40.37 | scruffy | blaamann: what am I looking for in tools | options | view? (v1.1.4) |
| 09:40.53 | scruffy | blaamann: do you mean scale? |
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| 09:41.06 | blaamann | scruffy: scale |
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| 09:41.30 | Guerin | tuxuser19: echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1\nnameserver 168.126.63.1\n" >/etc/resolv.conf |
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| 09:41.43 | scruffy | blaamann: then the document fonts are off the scale, to use a pun. |
| 09:42.22 | valdyn | scruffy: do you use either gnome or kde? |
| 09:42.23 | blaamann | scruffy: View | zoom |
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| 09:42.39 | tuxuser19 | Guerin:ya i did that |
| 09:43.14 | scruffy | blaamann: nope, openbox, but I have openoffice.org-gtk-gnome installed. |
| 09:43.26 | scruffy | sorry, valdyn ^^ |
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| 09:44.40 | scruffy | blaamann: zoom doesn't stick though, AFAICT |
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| 09:45.28 | elPepo | hi friends |
| 09:45.38 | adii | am i compelled to download the 15 cds to have a normal install ? |
| 09:45.44 | elPepo | how do I know which public key was used to encrypt some file? |
| 09:45.52 | resiak | !d-i adii |
| 09:45.53 | dpkg | adii, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:46.02 | woodland | is there any program to access windows files from linux environment |
| 09:46.14 | resiak | woodland: What kind of Windows files? |
| 09:46.16 | blaamann | scruffy: Stick ?....it does open new documents with the same zoom level and same scale level |
| 09:46.50 | woodland | resiak, i want to access media files like .rm and .mp3 ,,basically song files |
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| 09:47.11 | scruffy | blaamann: ok, if I open a file, zoom it, then close it and reopen it, it isn't zoomed to the previously zoomed setting. |
| 09:47.12 | adii | resiak, i wish i could net install . unfortunately sarge's installation is bugging when it comes to detect the network i dunno why |
| 09:47.22 | resiak | woodland: So what you actually mean is "I want to play mp3s and Real files". |
| 09:47.31 | woodland | resiak, ya |
| 09:47.38 | resiak | adii: You only need the first 2-3 CDs for a fairly large amount of stuff |
| 09:47.42 | valdyn | scruffy: alright, not sure how those will interact, but try: 'strace -eopen ooffice2 2>&1 | grep gtkrc' |
| 09:47.45 | woodland | resiak, but they are in win xp |
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| 09:47.56 | valdyn | scruffy: ( for whatever the executable for ooffice is really called ) |
| 09:47.58 | resiak | woodland: Do you mean "they're on my Windows XP partition"? |
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| 09:48.05 | woodland | resiak, ya |
| 09:48.10 | scruffy | valdyn: yeah, it's not 2.x |
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| 09:48.31 | valdyn | scruffy: alright, np, try for 1.x then ) |
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| 09:48.31 | blaamann | scruffy: It does with me. Opens with the same zoom level |
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| 09:49.00 | adii | resiak, ok thanks |
| 09:49.00 | resiak | woodland: /msg dpkg vfatrw; /msg dpkg ntfs; and learn to actually ask the question you want answered, which in this case is "how can I access files which are on my Windows partition?". |
| 09:49.17 | woodland | resiak, ok |
| 09:50.09 | valdyn | scruffy: ...to see which ( if any ) gtkrc files your ooffice uses |
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| 09:51.09 | scruffy | valdyn: check #flood if you haven't already |
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| 09:52.34 | scruffy | whoops |
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| 09:52.52 | valdyn | scruffy: great, now echo gtk-font-name="Bitstream Vera Sans 8" >> ~/.gtkrc.mine |
| 09:53.05 | valdyn | scruffy: replace 8 with whatever font size you want |
| 09:53.08 | scruffy | valdyn: sorry, did you get my paste in #flood. |
| 09:53.16 | scruffy | valdyn: will do. |
| 09:53.18 | valdyn | scruffy: yea |
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| 09:54.04 | valdyn | scruffy: this same font will defenitely show in the UI of mozilla-firefox or thunderbird, so you can use that to verify its working |
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| 09:54.40 | hawking | what is a .sig file? how can i open it? |
| 09:54.50 | Luftzig | say, I was having a bit trouble setting up my es1371 soundcard. mostly, I don't have a clue on how to check if it works. |
| 09:54.52 | scruffy | valdyn: weird. firefox and thunderbird don't show that small OO.org font. |
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| 09:55.29 | valdyn | scruffy: yea, i suppose, b/c your ~/.gtkrc* had no gtk-font-name setting at all.. |
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| 09:56.10 | blaamann | hawking: try as text. It could be a signature file |
| 09:56.17 | scruffy | valdyn: I edited my userChrome, I guess that's why, plus the missing gtk-font-name. Lemme try editing |
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| 09:57.04 | hawking | blaamann: that doesn't work that's why I ask here |
| 09:57.24 | valdyn | scruffy: i use this method successfully for mozilla-*. I'm not sure how its affecting ooffice though, so you'll have to try .. |
| 09:57.26 | bob2 | hawking: "doesn't work" is not a useful description of the problem |
| 09:57.35 | bob2 | hawking: what actually happens when you open it in your text editor? |
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| 09:57.44 | scruffy | valdyn: nope, doesn't work. |
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| 09:59.08 | scruffy | valdyn: it's strange, the fonts flash larger then go back to the tiny ones. Ah, I can live with it. |
| 09:59.27 | valdyn | scruffy: ok, you could try 'gtk-theme-switch' aswell then. That tool's entries into ~/.gtkrc* do not affect mozilla-* properly, but might affect ooffice, who knows |
| 09:59.55 | valdyn | scruffy: mind, you got to use the tool 'gtk-theme-switch2' |
| 10:00.53 | scruffy | valdyn: yes, that's what I originally set my GTK2 fonts with. They look great, but OO.org looks like dung. |
| 10:01.33 | hawking | bob2: well gedit can't open it |
| 10:02.06 | bob2 | hawking: then ignore it and use nano or vim |
| 10:02.14 | valdyn | scruffy: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/fontguide.html#9 |
| 10:02.16 | blaamann | hawking: try head file.sig |
| 10:02.23 | valdyn | scruffy: read that one? |
| 10:03.19 | scruffy | valdyn: I think that was the original fix I used before etch, I'll try it again. |
| 10:03.25 | hawking | well both vim and head command shows <88>?^C^E^@@0ÃŽR¿qË×À<9d>a/^Q^B<89><93>^@<9f>V^PÃŽMKÃ^S^?ÔsÞ^Y»vM<8b>-âQ×^@<9f>V^[Ãq<91>^X^P<89>Ã>9;aM<88>[)<91>v» |
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| 10:04.47 | wathek | !tell png.h |
| 10:04.56 | valdyn | scruffy: in your flood paste ooffice opens /usr/share/themes/Default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc LAST, which is just a fucked up order ( your own customisations not being last... ) |
| 10:05.04 | scruffy | valdyn: was already set (the replacement thing) |
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| 10:05.21 | wathek | I've a prob when runing ./configure I get this configure: error: Cannot find png.h on your system |
| 10:05.27 | wathek | which package should I install ? |
| 10:05.29 | scruffy | valdyn: perhaps a bug report? |
| 10:05.43 | wathek | should I install libpng ? |
| 10:05.43 | valdyn | scruffy: probably implies that one of your custom gtkrc* triggers that |
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| 10:06.24 | scruffy | valdyn: just checked and they all include the .mine last. |
| 10:07.03 | blaamann | wathek: Install apt-file, it will help you with such problems |
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| 10:07.41 | valdyn | scruffy: and your .mine doesnt include it? |
| 10:07.54 | scruffy | valdyn: nope.. checking again |
| 10:08.48 | scruffy | valdyn: in flood is my 2.0.mine |
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| 10:09.17 | scruffy | valdyn: that is the only .mine I use. I checked the other gtk's in my ~ though. |
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| 10:09.31 | woodland | if i have to get .deb files from freshmeat.net what do i add to my /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 10:09.39 | valdyn | scruffy: oh, my addition from above isnt there... |
| 10:09.41 | cahoot | wathek: probably some -dev lib |
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| 10:10.17 | scruffy | valdyn: right, but all my other gtk2 apps don't look like that, they have great fonts. |
| 10:10.27 | valdyn | scruffy: great, now echo gtk-font-name="Bitstream Vera Sans 8" >> ~/.gtkrc-2.0.mine |
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| 10:11.24 | valdyn | scruffy: gtkrc settings are quite messy if you dont use gconfd ( as you would with gnome ). Plenty gtk apps read config files in different orders |
| 10:11.39 | valdyn | scruffy: and / or dont respect what installing kde additionally does with those |
| 10:11.49 | scruffy | valdyn: didn't work. I may poke my eyes out. :) |
| 10:11.55 | wireddd | anyone have any idea when openoffice2.0 will get to the testing repository? |
| 10:12.01 | valdyn | scruffy: ok |
| 10:12.13 | valdyn | wireddd: +10 days if no serious issues are found |
| 10:12.22 | wireddd | thanx |
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| 10:12.38 | scruffy | valdyn: wait, the shell removed the "s |
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| 10:13.04 | scruffy | valdyn: ugh, still no go. |
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| 10:13.42 | scruffy | valdyn: thanks for the time helping though |
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| 10:16.40 | hansi_xp | hello |
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| 10:17.28 | woodland | is anybody here using linuxconf |
| 10:17.43 | valdyn | !anyone |
| 10:17.43 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 10:18.35 | GTswagger | I just installed and cannot boot -- I got "critical temp reached (256 C) ... shutting down" --- system is an old 400 Mhz Celeron... what parameter(s) do I need to pass to kernel to get it to ignore this obviously wrong reading? |
| 10:19.06 | EmleyMoor | According to #devtools, I am doing everything right to get .so files from a compile of obexftp (local, though I will try using the Debian package later, plus the patch I am using) - so why would I not be getting them? |
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| 10:21.35 | bbrazil | GTswagger: thats a bios thingy |
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| 10:21.56 | EmleyMoor | Is there a way in aptitude to request the source package or should that be done from the command line? |
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| 10:22.34 | GTswagger | bbrazil -- I looked at *everything* in the BIOS; there's no option to turn off thermal reporting or whatnot |
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| 10:23.26 | ZEA | how do I install kde in debian/testing? 'apt-get install kde' gives me broken packages (i.e., kdegraphics and kdewebdev) |
| 10:23.36 | tarzeau | ZEA: then you don't install it |
| 10:23.42 | tarzeau | ZEA: get sarge, and you can install it |
| 10:23.51 | ZEA | I thought broken packages only happened in unstable |
| 10:23.51 | tarzeau | ZEA: or you could try sid |
| 10:23.56 | tarzeau | ZEA: that's wrong |
| 10:24.01 | tarzeau | ZEA: they happen even more in testing |
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| 10:24.23 | tarzeau | since in unstable they get fixed before they get fixed in testing |
| 10:24.37 | scruffy | GTswagger: when exactly do you get that message? After init is called by the kernel (after grub)? |
| 10:24.43 | ZEA | sid is too much for me |
| 10:24.53 | tarzeau | ZEA: then use sarge |
| 10:24.54 | deadcat | is there a way to display all my ttf fonts? like the list in oo.org? |
| 10:25.07 | deadcat | i dont want to use oo.org just to look at my fonts. |
| 10:25.12 | tarzeau | deadcat: find /usr/share/fonts/ -name "*.ttf" ? |
| 10:25.27 | cahoot | fc-list? |
| 10:25.28 | deadcat | tarzeau: no. display. not list |
| 10:25.35 | cahoot | nm |
| 10:25.41 | deadcat | display as in how the f they look like |
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| 10:25.47 | GTswagger | scruffy - yes. |
| 10:25.53 | scruffy | deadcat: possibly gtkfontsel, but it might not display them all |
| 10:26.10 | GTswagger | scruffy - shortly after bootsplash; immediately after bootsplash brings up dev nodes |
| 10:26.14 | deadcat | scruffy: you sure that software shows ttf? |
| 10:27.13 | tarzeau | deadcat: no it won't |
| 10:27.17 | tarzeau | it's gtk1 |
| 10:27.27 | deadcat | ya |
| 10:27.31 | scruffy | deadcat: maybe not. |
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| 10:28.44 | EmleyMoor | Is there a guide anywhere to installing third-party patches into an existing Debian package? |
| 10:28.46 | scruffy | GTswagger: not sure if something to do with lmsensors is doing it, but my next place to look would be to boot from some rescue disk and exclude those modules from the list. |
| 10:29.11 | tarzeau | EmleyMoor: what kind of patches? |
| 10:29.24 | tarzeau | EmleyMoor: you might want to check dpatch |
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| 10:29.46 | EmleyMoor | Patches to add USB compatibility |
| 10:29.53 | tarzeau | EmleyMoor: for the kernel? |
| 10:30.06 | EmleyMoor | No, for packages |
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| 10:30.18 | EmleyMoor | (obex packages to be precise) |
| 10:31.57 | TwistedEmotions | Jesus christ... I was asleep as hell and then I get a call that three of my friends are drunk and about to get arrested. Show up there and one of my friends girlfriends is drunk beyond belief and suddenly they all start yelling at me. I hate Saturdays ;P |
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| 10:32.17 | woodland | i installed command based ssh, but i forgot the packagname, how do i find out the packagename for this command called 'ssh' |
| 10:32.19 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahaha |
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| 10:32.40 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: time to send them to AA meetings |
| 10:32.43 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: dude... that shit sucked. Toldem all to get in the car or they were all getting knocked out.. |
| 10:33.13 | markit | hi :) does someone know the meaning of the status shown by dpkg -l, when is rc, ri, ic ? google did not helped, nor man |
| 10:33.14 | EmleyMoor | I've got the patches in a form suitable for applying in a local build |
| 10:33.15 | scruffy | woodland: dlocate |
| 10:33.15 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: man.. should have just put my celly on silent before I went to sleep ;P |
| 10:33.31 | deadcat | (= |
| 10:33.31 | woodland | scruffy, dlocate ssh ? |
| 10:33.45 | scruffy | woodland: right. It gives me, openssh-client: /usr/bin/ssh |
| 10:33.59 | scruffy | woodland: ..among others |
| 10:34.02 | woodland | scruffy, ok |
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| 10:34.07 | linh | hi |
| 10:34.15 | nathan | what package handles images within gnome itself, ie. gnome is barfing errors when trying to open any kind of image, and doesn't show icons properly |
| 10:34.24 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: When I try to setup the router and it's plugged into my ethernet port the router freezes... I think it's because I'm trying to set it up wirelessly ;( And I only have one CAT-5 wire ;P so I guess I wait till tommorow |
| 10:34.25 | linh | do you know which package can i add to get manpages for linux programming |
| 10:34.35 | scruffy | woodland: `dpkg | grep ssh` may please you also |
| 10:34.41 | woodland | scruffy, it says 'command not found ' |
| 10:34.45 | woodland | ok |
| 10:34.45 | linh | ie man sendto man recvfrom |
| 10:34.49 | scruffy | woodland: sorry, make that `dpkg -l grep ssh` |
| 10:34.53 | scruffy | woodland: sorry, make that `dpkg -l | grep ssh` |
| 10:34.56 | woodland | ok |
| 10:35.38 | linh | how can i get mapages for "RECV(2) Linux Programmer's Manual RECV(2)" like this |
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| 10:36.08 | scruffy | linh: manpages-dev probably |
| 10:36.19 | kevix | EmleyMoor, http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/debian |
| 10:36.26 | ZEA | tarzeau: going back to sarge from sources.list, I'll have to wait for sarge's versions to pick up on etch's, right? |
| 10:36.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: /msg's |
| 10:36.47 | starscalling | bbiab |
| 10:36.57 | linh | ah, you are my savior. thanks scruffy! |
| 10:37.04 | scruffy | linh: np |
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| 10:40.52 | groton | anyone could help me setting up my 8139 nic? if i run "ifup eth0" i get "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device" |
| 10:41.03 | valdyn | ZEA: that wont happen |
| 10:41.05 | scruffy | deadcat: did you ever find an app to display them? I'd like to know also. :) |
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| 10:41.18 | deadcat | scruffy: nope |
| 10:41.20 | ZEA | valdyn: what will? |
| 10:41.21 | gts_ | groton -- sure it's "8139" and not "8139too" ? |
| 10:41.28 | groton | it is 8139too indeed |
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| 10:41.43 | valdyn | ZEA: sarge wont ever 'catch up' with etch |
| 10:41.49 | tapas | hi, i want to build a customized version of a package (jackd). Is apt-build the right tool? Anyone got some pointers to info about how to do this? |
| 10:42.09 | ZEA | valdyn: you mean sarge's versions remain the same until the next stable release? |
| 10:42.16 | gts_ | groton - ifconfig eth0 up |
| 10:42.20 | valdyn | ZEA: yea |
| 10:42.46 | groton | gts_, eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
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| 10:43.17 | gts_ | groton - Have hotplug/coldplug installed? Does lsmod show 8139too? |
| 10:43.47 | groton | gts_, this is my /etc/network/interfaces http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/y19uxJ17.html |
| 10:43.50 | resiak | tapas: apt-get build-dep jackd; apt-get source jackd; make the changes you want in its source tree; ./debian/rules binary |
| 10:43.54 | benny | how do I get k3b to burn this .iso as a cd and not just burn the iso onto the disc |
| 10:44.05 | groton | gts_, lsmod doesnot show it |
| 10:44.07 | tapas | resiak: thanks |
| 10:44.08 | bbrazil | ZEA: sarge's versions will remain the same forever |
| 10:44.16 | gts_ | groton - modprobe 8139too |
| 10:44.23 | groton | gts_, hot plug is installed i guess, maybe i have to check with something? dpkg? |
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| 10:44.40 | cahoot | tapas: http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize |
| 10:44.51 | scruffy | benny: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=247 |
| 10:44.52 | tarzeau | ZEA: that won't work |
| 10:44.55 | tarzeau | ZEA: you can't go back |
| 10:45.04 | groton | gts_, FATAL: Module 8139too not found. But i checked, i compiled it as a module in the current kerne |
| 10:45.11 | tapas | cahoot: thanks, too |
| 10:45.23 | gts_ | groton - depmod -ae |
| 10:45.31 | gts_ | groton - modprobe 8139too |
| 10:45.44 | groton | gts_, i foun it here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/y19uxJ17.html |
| 10:45.45 | cahoot | tapas: what version of jackd? |
| 10:45.46 | groton | ops |
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| 10:45.51 | groton | gts_, i foun it here: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/drivers/net/8139too.o |
| 10:46.05 | Luftzig | How do I check if my soundcard is configurated (es1371 on sarge, me think) |
| 10:46.15 | gts_ | groton - that's no good -- you want it in /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 10:46.24 | gts_ | then in drivers/net/ |
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| 10:46.33 | groton | gts_, but i installed the modules. anyway, still getting FATAL: Module 8139too not found. |
| 10:46.41 | valdyn | Luftzig: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 10:46.42 | tapas | cahoot: well, the newest :) |
| 10:46.48 | gts_ | groton: |
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| 10:46.49 | groton | gts_, should i copy the file manually? |
| 10:46.52 | cahoot | tapas: on sid? |
| 10:47.13 | tapas | cahoot: i want to test whether a configure flag (--enable-preemption-check) makes apps abort even when the user triggered tracing is not enabled. |
| 10:47.15 | ZEA | tarzeau, bbrazil: are there exceptional cases where versions in sarge will go up? or alternatively add another package with a higher version? |
| 10:47.17 | gts_ | groton - cp /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/drivers/net/8139too.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/drivers/net |
| 10:47.20 | tapas | cahoot: unstable (dunno the name) |
| 10:47.22 | gts_ | groton - depmod -ae |
| 10:47.24 | kevix | Luftzig, cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 10:47.29 | gts_ | groton - modprobe 8139too |
| 10:47.34 | scruffy | Luftzig: tried playing any sound files? |
| 10:47.53 | gts_ | groton -- note that the ticks in uname -r are back ticks... tilde key |
| 10:47.58 | Luftzig | haven't tried, don't have a clue how... |
| 10:48.34 | kevix | Luftzig, there should be a command 'play'. so if you have x.wav, type 'play x.wav' |
| 10:49.06 | bbrazil | ZEA: firefox for securtiy reasons happened recently - and that was a first |
| 10:49.21 | tapas | cahoot: but in a way it seems to be less hassle to install from source directly (from tarball, do my tests, and then later reinstall the binary package |
| 10:49.24 | bbrazil | ZEA: if you want packges in testing, use testing |
| 10:49.32 | groton | gts_: still the same error :\ |
| 10:49.40 | scruffy | Luftzig: cplay is another option for the command line. xmms is a GUI choice |
| 10:50.01 | GTswagger | groton -- if it wants to play hardball; we can |
| 10:50.05 | groton | gts_: notice that i copied it with: "cp /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8139too.o /lib/modules/2.6.12/kernel/drivers/net/" |
| 10:50.06 | tarzeau | ZEA: no |
| 10:50.13 | Luftzig | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp works, although cat /proc/asound/cards claims there is none... I'm confused |
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| 10:50.29 | GTswagger | groton - # insmod /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/drivers/net/8139too.o |
| 10:50.41 | kevix | Luftzig, you may not be using 'alsa' |
| 10:50.43 | GTswagger | groton - is it in lsmod then? |
| 10:50.47 | hiux | how can i get java runtime? "Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment." |
| 10:50.54 | kevix | Luftzig, have you run 'alsaconf' as root ? |
| 10:50.59 | groton | GTswagger, insmod: error inserting '/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/drivers/net/8139too.o': -1 Invalid module format |
| 10:51.01 | cahoot | tapas: the page url I posted at least lets you do it in a way that doesn't mess up the system (if I understand it correct) |
| 10:51.09 | groton | GTswagger, it is not in there :\ |
| 10:51.26 | hiux | which programe should i install to get libjava.so? |
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| 10:51.30 | GTswagger | groton -- find a file named 8139too.ko --- the file you are pointing out is not for your kernel type |
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| 10:52.01 | Luftzig | kevix, I tried, but I'll try again now |
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| 10:52.10 | adii | i've just downloaded sarge a64 , just burnt, just inserted into my laptop .. and it just doesn't display a single thing |
| 10:52.11 | StanTheMan | darn....everyone asleep in #postfix |
| 10:52.15 | groton | GTswagger, but it was compiled with my curretn kernel, what could be wrong? i always used the same compiler too |
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| 10:52.31 | fken | hello i have a trouble with my apt : i used to use security server and now its everytime saying me that the package i tried to update or install arent checked |
| 10:52.39 | nkuttler | adii: what do you mean? |
| 10:52.40 | fken | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:52.51 | fken | can someone explain me whats happen and help me if its possible? |
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| 10:53.03 | GTswagger | groton -- some programs compile multiple variations ..... e.g. 64-bit modules... 32-bit modules... blah blah blah |
| 10:53.10 | kevix | Luftzig, does that mean that you have 'alsaconf' and it didnt find a card or you dont have 'alsaconf'? |
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| 10:53.32 | GTswagger | groton - # find /lib/modules -name "*8139*" |
| 10:53.35 | valdyn | adii: what's a64? |
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| 10:53.57 | fken | maybe is it amd64 valdyn |
| 10:53.58 | adii | nkuttler, i've been trying for 1 day to install a sarge on this laptop. the net install crashed cos it couldn't reach internet (not working wth dhcp, not workign with manual paramaters). now i'm trying to install it thanks to debian install cds, and it does not prompt anything |
| 10:53.59 | glitch- | i have problem with my mysql http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-41617.html |
| 10:53.59 | spdf | hiux, download the Java runtime binaries from www.java.com, and install the java-package package... and then you'd run "make-jpkg <downloaded binary file>" |
| 10:54.00 | groton | GTswagger, i found it in any previous kernel i was using, and when the nic was working properly, for example, in /lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko |
| 10:54.00 | valdyn | adii: there's ia64, i doubt you have a laptop with an Itanium cpu |
| 10:54.04 | adii | Valandil, amd64 |
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| 10:54.22 | woodland | hi |
| 10:54.25 | adii | sorry valdyn , not Valandil |
| 10:54.33 | adii | here is the pc i have : http://www.darty.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DartyProductCardView?codic=2038846&c2=0&f=756&u=10001&r=11101&p=2038846&s=2048884&s=2072254&s=2038846&s=2073080&s=2065924&s=2024870&s=2036282&s=2077329&s=1974092&s=2072220&s=2038668&s=1995774&s=2082799&s=1974122&s=2074150&s=2047101&s=1956825&s=2000512&s=2000555&s=1995782&s=2077400&s=2038706&s=1994743&s=1974114&storeId=10001&m=-1&pmin=799&pmax=2499&fsel=1 |
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| 10:54.49 | pope | how can i install a downloaded deb (not available in distri)? |
| 10:54.50 | fken | can someone help me ? |
| 10:54.54 | groton | GTswagger, in the current kernel source tree, i only have /lib/modules/2.6.12/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o, ie the .o, not the .ko |
| 10:54.55 | GTswagger | groton -- paste the result (in pastebin if necessary) to me |
| 10:55.01 | valdyn | adii: you didnt properly burn that image i suppose |
| 10:55.02 | woodland | when i connect to remote pc with ssh, how do i get files on my pc |
| 10:55.05 | scruffy | pope: dpkg -i |
| 10:55.06 | kevix | pope, dpkg -i xyz.deb |
| 10:55.13 | pope | thx a lot |
| 10:55.15 | adii | okok , i will burn it once again |
| 10:55.17 | Luftzig | kevix, that means that I think I tried running alsaconf, but not sure. |
| 10:55.21 | maru | woodland: scp |
| 10:55.26 | kevix | pope, what program did you not find in the 16,000 packages? |
| 10:55.26 | valdyn | adii: burn it as cdrom, not that iso as file |
| 10:55.38 | woodland | maru, is scp a command ? |
| 10:55.47 | maru | woodland: yes |
| 10:55.48 | resiak | woodland: No, it's a type of leopard |
| 10:55.56 | Luftzig | alsaconf |
| 10:55.58 | woodland | resiak, lol |
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| 10:56.07 | GTswagger | groton - #insmod /lib/modules/2.6.12/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o |
| 10:56.14 | maru | is anyone else having problems with console unicode support ant libconsole -57? |
| 10:56.27 | groton | GTswagger, it seems i havent compiled it as a module :\ i checked it now, the option has the star near it |
| 10:56.37 | Luftzig | kevix, I have no alsaconf. |
| 10:56.38 | maru | has been working here for years, but it stopped after upgrading to version -57 |
| 10:56.39 | adii | valdyn, i didn't commit that error |
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| 10:56.48 | pope | kevix, its opera |
| 10:56.53 | groton | GTswagger, it is linked hard into the kernel. is this wrong? should i recompile my kernel? |
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| 10:56.56 | scruffy | resiak: hehe |
| 10:57.04 | kevix | GTswagger, I keep seeing .o files but doesn't 2.6.12 use .ko files? |
| 10:57.13 | kevix | pope, ok. |
| 10:57.15 | valdyn | adii: try to boot it in a different computer too, even if its an amd64 image it should at least get to the first bootscreen |
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| 10:57.29 | GTswagger | kevix -- yes; but he wasn't finding any |
| 10:57.34 | valdyn | adii: on any i386+ cpu |
| 10:57.39 | GTswagger | groton -- You don't have to |
| 10:57.39 | kevix | pope, have you tried kazehakase |
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| 10:57.52 | GTswagger | groton -- it should work in the kernel or as a module.... just like, say, alsa |
| 10:58.00 | adii | valdyn, good idea, i will try |
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| 10:58.10 | groton | GTswagger, ok, maybe i should look to /var/log/syslog? |
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| 10:58.19 | pope | kevix, what is katzhaduzi? |
| 10:58.21 | GTswagger | groton -- try unplugging ethernet from jack.... then plug it back in... then enter this command: #dmesg |
| 10:58.37 | kevix | pope, yet another browser. its the one I use the most. |
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| 11:00.12 | groton | GTswagger, i do not see any interesting in the output, i could show it to you thoguh |
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| 11:00.48 | groton | GTswagger, i simply see drivers/usb/atm/cxacru.c: cm 0x88 repeated millions of time :\ and in the middle a "No module found in object" |
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| 11:00.55 | Blue-Omega | clonebots? |
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| 11:01.00 | BusMaster | how do i view .lit files in linux? I'm running sarge |
| 11:01.00 | GTswagger | groton - ewwwwwww |
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| 11:01.13 | kevix | groton, are you tring to use the 8139 kernel modules? with a debian kernel? |
| 11:01.17 | aurax | yeah clones |
| 11:01.29 | aurax | anyone here using opteron cpu's? |
| 11:01.30 | Blue-Omega | yawn |
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| 11:01.43 | aurax | Blue-Omega, you? |
| 11:01.44 | GTswagger | groton -- in desperation; you can try recompiling kernel with it as module; at least that'll give you more info on what went wrong. I dealt with 8139too on Gentoo and it "Just worked" |
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| 11:01.51 | groton | Kevin`, it is not a module, it is linked hardly in the kernel |
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| 11:02.00 | groton | GTswagger, ok |
| 11:02.03 | scruffy | BusMaster: what does the command file tell you it is? |
| 11:02.06 | Blue-Omega | aurax, no |
| 11:02.10 | aurax | ahk |
| 11:02.18 | scruffy | BusMaster: file --help |
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| 11:02.27 | groton | yes, also here my 8139too worked always correclty, but as a module, not linked into the kernel |
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| 11:02.56 | BusMaster | scruffy, data |
| 11:02.56 | kevix | groton, the 8139too is a realllllly common network card (reltek). use the default debian kernel. it works fine. |
| 11:03.05 | scruffy | BusMaster: no idea.. |
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| 11:03.27 | groton | kevix, i cant use the standard kernel, i got my own kernel working with this adsl usb modem |
| 11:03.29 | scruffy | BusMaster: try strings :) |
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| 11:03.42 | BusMaster | scruffy, :) |
| 11:03.48 | seeeS | so what is a .lit file? |
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| 11:04.09 | maru | BusMaster: according to filex its an amos executable file :) |
| 11:04.14 | GTswagger | I cannot even boot via rescue mode -- as soon as udev brings up dev nodes I get the "critical temp reached (256 C) shutting down" ... and IMMEDIATELY all filessystems become read only and it halts |
| 11:04.17 | kevix | groton, what modules do you need for your modem? |
| 11:04.22 | peej | .lit is readable with clit. |
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| 11:04.33 | BusMaster | maru, and , err...what does _that_mean ? |
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| 11:04.46 | maru | or as peej said an ebook file |
| 11:04.49 | groton | kevix, i patched a 2.6.12 kernel with accessrunner.sf.net |
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| 11:04.54 | seeeS | amos... that was some amiga thingy |
| 11:05.01 | scruffy | BusMaster: do you expect it to be a certain type? If so, what type of application would you assume should open it? |
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| 11:05.47 | BusMaster | scruffy, i expect it to be a txt. the file is actually an ebook |
| 11:05.53 | Luftzig | ok, apparently, i dont have alsa. apt-get alsa should fix it? |
| 11:05.58 | scruffy | BusMaster: for example, this page lists an eBook as one possibility, http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=LIT |
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| 11:06.09 | adii | valdyn, i've burnt it now. the new cd is still not bootable |
| 11:06.15 | bob2 | Luftzig: nope |
| 11:06.19 | adii | on either the laptop or my other computer |
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| 11:06.25 | bob2 | Luftzig: "dont have alsa" is not a specific enough statement |
| 11:06.27 | adii | (which is an AMD64 too actually) |
| 11:06.29 | scruffy | BusMaster: try a PDF reader... apt-cache search pdf |
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| 11:06.43 | BusMaster | scruffy, pdf reader?? Hrm...okay |
| 11:06.47 | Luftzig | so what should I check for next? |
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| 11:07.23 | scruffy | BusMaster: acroread would be my first guess. Not sure if Debian has an Adobe Acrobat Reader package. |
| 11:07.26 | cbr | why do i get this message on boot: Mounting local filesystems... failed! |
| 11:07.30 | SimonRaven | blah |
| 11:07.48 | BusMaster | scruffy, i have acroread, xpdf, kpdf, gpdf and kghostview..lost of options :) |
| 11:08.01 | GTswagger | cbr -- a few possibilities: |
| 11:08.02 | scruffy | BusMaster: tried them? :D |
| 11:08.08 | bob2 | Luftzig: if you're missing the drivers, upgrading to a 2.6 kernel is the simplest solution |
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| 11:08.09 | GTswagger | - filesystem corruption (fsck) |
| 11:08.18 | GTswagger | - hard drive failing |
| 11:08.26 | GTswagger | - bad syntax in /etc/fstab |
| 11:08.29 | cbr | GTswagger: but everything seems to be mounted correctly.. |
| 11:08.34 | BusMaster | scruffy, PDF file is damaged or not a pdf file :( |
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| 11:08.35 | SimonRaven | i like xpdf, there's also some new package in sid to play with pdf forms, and other goodies |
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| 11:09.22 | GTswagger | cbr -- perhaps it's referring to a NFS share you had at one time but do not at the moment? |
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| 11:09.31 | cbr | GTswagger: nope |
| 11:09.32 | nathan | anyone any idea what this means when running gnome-background-properties: Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 7 |
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| 11:09.57 | tarzeau | anyone feel like tetradrawing with me? i'd like to work this out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ansi/debianfull.png |
| 11:10.03 | SimonRaven | nathan: it's not an error. that's gconf2-d (or soemthing) starting up |
| 11:10.08 | SimonRaven | some* |
| 11:10.13 | maru | nathan: that the default config is read only? |
| 11:10.27 | scruffy | BusMaster: looks proprietary according to the aforementioned link I posted. Microsoft. Also: http://www.convertlit.com/ |
| 11:10.38 | Luftzig | bob2, I'm pretty sure i am using the 2.6 kernel. when I installed the system at first i had something like linux26 option, or something... |
| 11:10.47 | BusMaster | scruffy, will check it out...thanks for the link |
| 11:10.49 | nathan | hmm fair enough |
| 11:10.51 | groton | GTswagger, now it have -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21642 2005-10-23 15:18 8139cp.ko the module file. But still, if i try to insert it i get: "insmod: error inserting '8139too.ko': -1 File existsert it" Is that cause in the running kernel the same file it is embedded into? |
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| 11:11.00 | seeeS | very cute tarzeau, is it supposed to be wrapping |
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| 11:11.29 | scruffy | BusMaster: check out the second link on http://www.convertlit.com/download.php |
| 11:11.30 | nathan | im trying to find out why gnome isn't display any images, ie it cant set a wallpaper and gimp cant open images |
| 11:11.30 | GTswagger | groton -- doubt it - sounds like it's already been auto-inserted |
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| 11:11.33 | tarzeau | seeeS: yes. it's for /etc/issue |
| 11:11.33 | GTswagger | groton -- lsmod |
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| 11:11.49 | BusMaster | scruffy, k |
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| 11:12.01 | groton | GTswagger, it isnot in the lsmod output |
| 11:12.10 | GTswagger | hmph |
| 11:12.22 | GTswagger | groton - did you try via insmod or modprobe? |
| 11:12.27 | groton | insmod |
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| 11:12.33 | valdyn | !insmod |
| 11:12.34 | GTswagger | try modprobe |
| 11:12.34 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
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| 11:13.00 | groton | FATAL: Module 8139too.ko not found |
| 11:13.05 | GTswagger | UGH |
| 11:13.06 | GTswagger | lame! |
| 11:13.19 | groton | :) |
| 11:13.21 | GTswagger | groton - depmod -ae |
| 11:13.32 | maru | ok, so utf console is fscked up right now |
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| 11:13.37 | groton | but i guess i have to copy it in /lib/odules/somehting...? |
| 11:13.41 | SimonRaven | i like -Aa |
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| 11:14.06 | GTswagger | groton - then try modprobe again |
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| 11:15.26 | groton | now modprobe fails silently, i do not see the module loaded as in lsmod :\ |
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| 11:15.34 | tapas | cahoot: ok, thanks again. i will have a longer look. |
| 11:15.46 | groton | but as i said, i get no error when i run modprobe.... |
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| 11:16.06 | maru | groton: Is support for it compiled into the kernel? |
| 11:16.13 | groton | maru: yes |
| 11:16.25 | SimonRaven | then there's no point to modprobe... |
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| 11:16.35 | groton | but it does not work |
| 11:16.56 | maru | get rid of the statically compiled version and try again |
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| 11:17.07 | maru | as in remove it from the kernel |
| 11:17.26 | groton | when i run /etc/init.d/networking restart i get eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 11:17.36 | groton | ok, so i should boot with the new kernel, ok |
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| 11:17.50 | groton | thanks for the help guys (expecially GTswagger :)) i wil let you knwo later |
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| 11:17.56 | groton | (do not run away) :) |
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| 11:18.21 | nathan | hmm im getting closer... anyone ideas on what would cause this error (accross different apps) GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed |
| 11:18.30 | maru | groton: i doubt that 628 people will suddenly disappear after you have left the channel |
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| 11:19.40 | seeeS | nathan: i believe they are prett common, it looks like some handle got nuked before it should |
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| 11:20.53 | nathan | seeeS: ok fair enough ill keep trying |
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| 11:23.29 | sr | hi |
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| 11:26.17 | nathan | what library does GIMP / GAIM / gnome use to display images (jpegs etc) |
| 11:26.34 | resiak | [nathan: Gaim or gaim, never GAIM or gAIM.] |
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| 11:26.51 | nathan | resiak: Gaim :) |
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| 11:27.05 | valdyn | nathan: 'ldd /usr/bin/gaim |
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| 11:27.06 | valdyn | nathan: 'ldd /usr/bin/gaim' |
| 11:27.33 | nathan | i need to find a common libary between them all its a nightmare |
| 11:27.47 | valdyn | nathan: most are common to both |
| 11:28.21 | nathan | something is screwed |
| 11:28.36 | nathan | im guessing it cant be them all :) |
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| 11:28.47 | resiak | nathan: I'm guessing they all just use Gtk2's support |
| 11:28.59 | Ereth | Hi! My x-server wont start due to improper graphics configuration... is there an easy way to reconfigure it? |
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| 11:29.05 | resiak | !drxx Ereth |
| 11:29.08 | dpkg | Ereth: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:29.30 | Ereth | ah, thanks |
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| 11:29.37 | nathan | resiak: yeah i thought as much |
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| 11:29.55 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - im having problems with my tvcard. its in a debian machine now, and it has worked in a different debian machine before. its SAA7130 based, dmesg doesn't mention anything about a tuner. the problem is, tvtime wont let me change input (sounds like it cant autodetect the tuner to me). any idea's? |
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| 11:30.12 | valdyn | dpkg, drxx=~s/hand,used/hand or used/ |
| 11:30.20 | resiak | nathan: gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file, according to a quick grep of my Gaim source tree. |
| 11:30.21 | valdyn | uh |
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| 11:30.47 | nathan | resiak: ok thanks thats a good start |
| 11:31.00 | Ereth | um, what shall I enter as my graphics card bus identifier? |
| 11:31.00 | resiak | nathan: apt-get install devhelp # really good for gtk/gdk docs |
| 11:31.14 | resiak | Ereth: If you read the screen before, you'd know you could ignore it in the general case |
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| 11:31.27 | Ereth | okay, my bad |
| 11:31.35 | resiak | Ereth: No problme :) |
| 11:31.47 | resiak | Ereth: (Sorry, didn't mean to bite your head off.) |
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| 11:32.05 | nagytalop | hi! im changed my geforce 4200 ti to a geforce fx 5700 and i can't use the tv out with nvidia tv-out, can anybody tell me why? |
| 11:32.08 | nagytalop | :) |
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| 11:33.43 | nathan | infact theres a good question how do you use tv out with nvidia :) |
| 11:34.01 | Baumhase | Hello. I use debian Sarge. I have problems with Mozilla und arabic or asian Website. I not gecome not the correct fonts. |
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| 11:34.23 | dragonkh | hi |
| 11:34.28 | shad0wcat | probably because you don't have the right ones installed |
| 11:34.29 | resiak | nagytalop: Are you using the binary driver? |
| 11:34.34 | nagytalop | no |
| 11:34.37 | dragonkh | how do I set DocumentRoot on Apache2? |
| 11:34.40 | resiak | nagytalop: I think that you probably have to. |
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| 11:34.46 | nagytalop | the original |
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| 11:34.49 | xelam | dragonkh: by asking in #apache ;) |
| 11:34.50 | valdyn | !documentroot |
| 11:34.59 | dragonkh | they dont know as its a debian specific thing |
| 11:35.01 | resiak | dragonkh: cd /etc/apache2/sites-available/; ls; cat *; read the docs; hthhand |
| 11:35.06 | dragonkh | I asked |
| 11:35.10 | valdyn | dragonkh: look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 11:35.16 | dragonkh | ugh |
| 11:35.17 | nagytalop | you think this not support my card? |
| 11:35.28 | resiak | nagytalop: I don't think that tv-out works with nv |
| 11:35.32 | Guerin | dragonkh: bullshit |
| 11:35.37 | nagytalop | ok |
| 11:35.41 | Guerin | dragonkh: read httpd.apache.org |
| 11:35.43 | nagytalop | thank you |
| 11:35.43 | bob2 | dragonkh: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, I'd bet |
| 11:35.49 | dragonkh | its in sites-enabled |
| 11:35.53 | dragonkh | weird place for it |
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| 11:36.01 | resiak | Not really .... it's for enabled sites |
| 11:36.08 | dragonkh | I thought it should be in the apache2.conf |
| 11:36.16 | resiak | dragonkh: Oh, and in future, grep -r 'DocumentRoot' /etc/apache2/ |
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| 11:36.38 | bob2 | dragonkh: apache2 in debian splits all host-specific stuff out into files in sites-available/ |
| 11:36.38 | nvz | thinking like apache 1.3.x is what you were doing |
| 11:36.40 | hanz | i cant select any module via modconf. what is the problem? |
| 11:37.00 | dragonkh | Bob2 - oh - thats really confusing for me ! |
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| 11:37.06 | Guerin | hanz: you're not root |
| 11:37.07 | dragonkh | thanks for the help :) |
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| 11:37.30 | nvz | hanz: they only become selected if they are loaded. for this you need to be root and actually have something that the driver can support |
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| 11:38.09 | hanz | i am root. |
| 11:38.11 | nvz | hanz: either case of no hardware or no permissions results in not getting selected because its not loaded and you cant write to /etc/modules |
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| 11:38.17 | bob2 | hanz: what are you trying to load? |
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| 11:38.25 | hanz | tun/tap device |
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| 11:38.50 | bob2 | just 'sudo modprobe tun', and add it to the bottom of /etc/modules |
| 11:39.26 | hanz | bob2: modprobe: Can't locate module tun |
| 11:39.38 | nvz | I am going to go load a foot long sub with cheese steak cause I have been sleeping since saturday morning and I am hungry :P |
| 11:39.53 | bob2 | good plan |
| 11:40.03 | nvz | I thought so :P |
| 11:40.04 | bob2 | maybe with napolitana sauce |
| 11:40.13 | bob2 | hanz: what does "uname -r" print? |
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| 11:40.34 | hanz | 2.4.29-STD |
| 11:40.46 | bob2 | that's not a Debian kernel |
| 11:41.02 | bob2 | and whoever made it didn't include the tun module, it seems |
| 11:41.14 | Guerin | careful |
| 11:41.16 | bob2 | you'll need to get them to compile you a new one, or install one from Debian |
| 11:41.23 | Guerin | using that kernel yoou might get a virus |
| 11:41.35 | bob2 | oh, wait |
| 11:41.44 | bob2 | hanz: are you using "Knoppix STD"? |
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| 11:41.56 | shad0wcat | !knoppix |
| 11:41.56 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 11:42.04 | hanz | bob2: default kernel from my hoster |
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| 11:42.15 | shad0wcat | then your shell provider is an idiot |
| 11:42.30 | shad0wcat | he runs a stock knoppix kernel on a shell |
| 11:42.32 | shad0wcat | smart |
| 11:42.45 | Guerin | how do you know it's a knoppix kernel? |
| 11:42.57 | Guerin | they might just call their kernel STD |
| 11:43.24 | Guerin | hanz: but in any case, you need to seek help from your host. |
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| 11:44.05 | hanz | i will change the kernel to the debian default. |
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| 11:44.35 | resiak | hanz: But you still won't be running Debian. |
| 11:44.36 | groton | ok, i loaded successfully 8139too.ko, it is also shown in lsmod. But when i run "ifup eth0" i get "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device"No such device |
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| 11:45.26 | hanz | it IS debian sarge not knoppix! they simply name the kernel STD... |
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| 11:45.52 | nagytalop | what happens when im switch on the kernel framebuffer? |
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| 11:48.20 | nagytalop | nothing :)) |
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| 11:49.16 | nvz | oh well gonna have to go buy steak for that. |
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| 11:50.08 | nvz | its just wrong to have that foot long sub and swiss cheese there and not have steak |
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| 11:54.09 | xwolf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:54.13 | xwolf | whops |
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| 11:54.31 | peej | I am trying to upgrade from stable to testing. I seem to need verification for some packages. I get a failure for origin signature check for those. How do I fix it? |
| 11:55.06 | nagytalop | restartx |
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| 11:55.56 | nvz | dpkg, apt secure |
| 11:55.56 | dpkg | apt secure is probably in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://www.syntaxpolice.org/apt-secure/ ; until you perform the steps described on page 5, you will get warnings about packages that can't be authenticated, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174 |
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| 11:56.23 | peej | nvz++ |
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| 11:56.34 | scruffy | peej: possibly by temporarily adding 'APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true";' to your /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 11:56.35 | nvz | dpkg, karma nvz |
| 11:56.35 | dpkg | nvz has karma of 8 |
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| 11:57.03 | tux19 | can anyone help me with gnopernicus application which comes with gnome |
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| 11:57.17 | nvz | peej: got to put a ! in front for it to count :P |
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| 11:58.35 | nvz | and now that I've managed to spoil my appetite I need to go get some better food |
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| 11:59.04 | peej | !nvz++ |
| 11:59.17 | nvz | dpkg, karma nvz |
| 11:59.17 | dpkg | nvz has karma of 9 |
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| 11:59.38 | peej | dpkg, botsnack |
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| 11:59.45 | groton | hi |
| 12:00.09 | nvz | I would like to stop at other places though if I were to go to the store but they are probably all closed for several more hours if not all day |
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| 12:00.14 | nvz | bastards :P |
| 12:00.25 | tux19 | can any1 help me out with Gnopernicus application which comes with Gnome?? |
| 12:00.41 | nvz | I do need some steak or something cause I am hungry and that cake didnt cut it |
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| 12:02.22 | groton | GTswagger, ok, i loaded the module of 8139too.ko correclty. but not it seems the dns is fucked up, i cant reach any web address by using names.. :) and my eth0 still does not work too |
| 12:02.26 | resiak | tux19: firstly, you'll probably have more luck on the gnopernicus channel (probably on irc.gnome.org if anywhere); secondly, why not ask what you actually want to know? |
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| 12:03.34 | kowey | hi, first of all, anybody here who's been working on the installer, i'd like to congratulate you |
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| 12:03.45 | kowey | and say thanks, because i just put debian on my mac, and it was painless |
| 12:04.00 | tux19 | i dont know how to make it work.im after the screen reader |
| 12:04.11 | nvz | I could always get some flour tortillas and some sausage and make breakfast burritos instead. /me ponders going to the store when both the electronics and alcohol stores are closed |
| 12:04.12 | kowey | secondly... as a newbie, if all i want is a simple web server, how much do i have to worry about securing my standard sarge install? |
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| 12:04.14 | quitte | i bought a nokia d211 card. i guess i shouldnt have done it but i want to get it working anyways. |
| 12:04.15 | tux19 | i have installed it on my debian 3.1 |
| 12:04.27 | resiak | kowey: You probably want to thank Colin Watson :) |
| 12:04.42 | resiak | tux19: You should ask a gnome channel |
| 12:04.46 | quitte | but for some reason the drivers from d211.sf.net dont compile for 2.6.8-2 |
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| 12:04.55 | valdyn | kowey: just dont install any service that you do not need ( probably nothing but ssh and your webserver ) |
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| 12:05.15 | kowey | so if i'm very passive about this (i.e. i don't select anything i don't know), i should be fine? |
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| 12:05.27 | kowey | i don't have to go out of my way to close things off? |
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| 12:05.47 | valdyn | kowey: 'netstat -plunt' will list open network ports' |
| 12:06.08 | nvz | with the services opening them usually |
| 12:06.12 | seeeS | plunt |
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| 12:06.42 | bdubois | Hi all! |
| 12:06.53 | seeeS | thats a very spiffy set of flags |
| 12:06.54 | kowey | i'll list here the programs: rcp.statd, portmap, inted, exim4, apache2, sshd, rpc.statd2 (x2), dhclient, portmap |
| 12:06.59 | bdubois | Any suggetions on how to debug this: my print jobs remain in the queue even after they are fully printed. |
| 12:07.02 | kowey | i'll likely get rid of exim, since i don't even want mail |
| 12:07.07 | seeeS | why niot install harden |
| 12:07.11 | valdyn | kowey: keep exim |
| 12:07.12 | seeeS | nosklo, you need mail |
| 12:07.20 | seeeS | every unix host is happier with mail |
| 12:07.21 | valdyn | kowey: remove portmap |
| 12:07.26 | peej | isn't an mta essential? |
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| 12:07.44 | seeeS | maybe not essential, but it borks so many things without one |
| 12:07.52 | seeeS | and doig it for security reasons is not a good reason |
| 12:08.04 | valdyn | kowey: you configure exim to only deliver local mail, if you have not yet done that |
| 12:08.10 | kowey | done... many thanks... (portmap). keeping the exim :-) |
| 12:08.14 | kowey | and yes, that's how i configured it |
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| 12:08.30 | peej | apt-secure is needed to verify some testing packages, but apt-secure is not in testing. Is that a bug? |
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| 12:08.48 | nvz | more work involved for those breakfast burritos but sounds good, especially since there isnt a Sonic or a What-a-burger within probably a 600-mile radius |
| 12:08.48 | adii | valdyn, that's the second time i've been downloading amd64 debian 1st installation cd : the iso is ok (md5sum matches) : and it doesn't boot on whatever computer i try it |
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| 12:08.49 | valdyn | kowey: you remove inted ( after you tell what that really was, i suspect identd, coming from the package pidentd |
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| 12:09.32 | valdyn | adii: have you checked the contents from the box you burn it on? |
| 12:09.54 | weedar | How do I open port 3306 so I can accept remote mysql-clients? |
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| 12:10.07 | adii | valdyn, i checked it on that computer, then transfered it with ftp (local network) , but no i didn't summed there... moment |
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| 12:10.09 | kowey | now i'm down to 4 programs |
| 12:10.09 | seeeS | weedar open the ports on what? |
| 12:10.25 | kowey | (shouldn't these be not installed with the standard web-server config?) |
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| 12:10.47 | valdyn | kowey: down to which programs? |
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| 12:10.56 | weedar | seeeS, on my debian machine. I have mysql running on both my debian and my winxp machine, I can connecto from debian->xp but not the other way aound. "netstat -plunt" doesn't show port 3306 as open |
| 12:11.00 | seeeS | im surprised portmap is install by default, but you need to for gnome :( |
| 12:11.07 | kowey | exim4, apache2, sshd, dhclient |
| 12:11.13 | valdyn | seeeS: nah, not required for gnome |
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| 12:11.21 | valdyn | kowey: alright, thats fine |
| 12:11.29 | seeeS | valdyn: gnome->fam->portmap iirc |
| 12:11.38 | kowey | great! thanks a lot |
| 12:11.43 | valdyn | seeeS: or gnome->gamin->no portmap |
| 12:11.45 | SimonRaven | gamin doesn't need it i don't think |
| 12:11.45 | seeeS | maybe they got fam more sensible |
| 12:11.51 | valdyn | seeeS: beside, fam does not require portmap |
| 12:11.58 | SimonRaven | gamin is a sub-set of fam |
| 12:12.08 | seeeS | oooh |
| 12:12.18 | seeeS | now thats an interesting package |
| 12:12.25 | valdyn | seeeS: it only recommends and only needs if you want to use fam across network |
| 12:12.30 | bob2 | hanz: you'll need to ask them to enable in it in the kernel |
| 12:12.32 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 12:12.35 | weedar | nobody knows how to open port 3306? :) |
| 12:12.46 | seeeS | weedar: my guess iis your mysql config has skip_networking |
| 12:12.53 | SimonRaven | weedar: if the daemon is running, it's already open |
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| 12:13.04 | hanz | bob2: i am going to use the debian images |
| 12:13.06 | SimonRaven | (if skip_networking isn't there) |
| 12:13.22 | seeeS | weedar, or bind address |
| 12:13.36 | bob2 | hanz: ah, that is harder than it sounds, since oyu probably can't configure the bootloader |
| 12:13.37 | seeeS | bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
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| 12:13.39 | SimonRaven | otherwise, the socket is used (can use both) |
| 12:13.52 | hanz | bob2: how to test boot a new kernel via lilo and then fall back if it fails? |
| 12:14.09 | SimonRaven | hanz: have 2, like a sensible person |
| 12:14.21 | hanz | normally using grub on local machines |
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| 12:14.36 | peej | scruffy: nope, the AllowUnauthenthicated option doesn't work, at least with my apt. |
| 12:14.36 | weedar | wouldn't port 3306 show up on the output from "netstat -plunt" ? |
| 12:14.42 | hanz | SimonRaven: hum? |
| 12:14.42 | groton | anyone coudl help me with this problem? i cant load the eth0 interfaces, the out put of "ifup eth0" is: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/rE9uak30.html. ANy hint? |
| 12:14.49 | peej | apt-secure is needed to verify some testing packages, but apt-secure is not in testing. Is that a bug? |
| 12:15.07 | valdyn | !info apt-secure |
| 12:15.11 | adii | valdyn, the sum is ok from the other computer too . it cannot come from the burner, i've been burning many things from it .. |
| 12:15.13 | SimonRaven | hanz: you should have at least 2 kernel stanzas in your $bootloader.conf |
| 12:15.33 | valdyn | adii: how did you checksum? |
| 12:15.36 | SimonRaven | hanz: esp. when you're testing stuff, you can always fall back to a working kernel |
| 12:15.36 | hanz | ya. i do have two |
| 12:15.41 | SimonRaven | good |
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| 12:16.17 | adii | adii : i downloaded md5sum from the internet then "md5 debian-31r0a-ia64-binary-1.iso" |
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| 12:16.24 | nathan | what does it mean if apt warns the package cannot be authenticated |
| 12:16.40 | valdyn | adii: run 'md5 /dev/hdc' ( or whatever you cdrom drive is ) |
| 12:16.43 | nvz | someone really needs to invent a small mp3 player like mine which is a Memorex takes a single AA battery and lasts like a week with heavy use of 8-12 hours a day and takes SD/MMC cards up to 512MB. but with full wireless for both file transfer and audio output the USB and Phono ports on these mp3 players are always a PITA |
| 12:16.44 | hanz | SimonRaven: add the lines under the default kernel in lilo.conf do lilo and reboot... thats all? |
| 12:17.08 | valdyn | adii: oh for fucks sake, you SAID EXPLICITELY that you used amd64, what you are showing me here is NOT amd64 |
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| 12:17.22 | nvz | I would pay good money to not have to keep taking my headphones apart and solder a new wire on them every week. |
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| 12:17.38 | Ereth | okay... even with vesa drivers and just 1024x768 @ 50hz it only displays gibberish and aborts after 3 tries.. did I miss something obvious? |
| 12:17.38 | valdyn | adii: this is an itanium cdrom, you dont need that one |
| 12:17.45 | adii | FF...... |
| 12:17.51 | SimonRaven | hanz: well, there's some defaults there, you can copy that and set it up according to your needs. otherwise just copy it and make sure you have different names for the label=, image=, initrd= stuff |
| 12:17.56 | valdyn | !amd64 |
| 12:17.56 | dpkg | [amd64] See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 12:18.00 | nvz | or hold be careful that nothing touches the shitty microscopic usb cable going into it when I transfer songs |
| 12:18.00 | valdyn | !ia64 |
| 12:18.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ia64 is the new Intel Architecture, "Itanium", which seems pretty cool. or ages behind rs64-II , see also http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/. |
| 12:18.14 | pedro420 | nvz: Hey nandrew ?! I gots a problem ! |
| 12:18.23 | nvz | pedro420: me too, no fucking steak |
| 12:18.27 | nvz | pedro420: I am hungry |
| 12:18.31 | adii | i thought "ia" meant [I]tanium and [A]MD |
| 12:18.42 | adii | then what should i use for amd64 ? |
| 12:18.51 | valdyn | adii: see what dpkg said |
| 12:18.52 | pedro420 | nvz: Well mines with the pc not food |
| 12:18.59 | nvz | pedro420: I changed my mind though.. going for sausage and tortillas now to make breakfast burritos |
| 12:19.00 | SimonRaven | hanz: ask me before you're going to do that |
| 12:19.13 | valdyn | adii: you are probably better off using i386 though |
| 12:19.16 | pedro420 | nvz: Thats sounds good as hell |
| 12:19.20 | hanz | SimonRaven: excuse me |
| 12:19.33 | citral | postfix is b0rked after yesterday's upgrade |
| 12:19.35 | valdyn | adii: amd64 has about no advantage for you outside special applications, and a few disadvantages |
| 12:19.38 | joris_ | a little OT, but does anyone know a production-quality video streaming solution? I need some serious counterweight to windows media |
| 12:19.39 | citral | fuck, lost emails |
| 12:19.42 | nvz | pedro420: yeah I got to make sure I got eggs and potato maybe some cheese |
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| 12:19.53 | nvz | pedro420: they are gonna be the bomb |
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| 12:20.03 | SimonRaven | hanz: try to set the lines pointing to symlinks, it's easier to manage |
| 12:20.11 | pedro420 | nvz: THey sound like they will be |
| 12:20.46 | SimonRaven | hanz: like image=/boot/vmlinuz then second one image=/boot/vmlinuz.old |
| 12:20.53 | nvz | pedro420: I wanted to get some fuckin headphones and alcohol while I was out but them assholes are closed no doubt |
| 12:20.58 | SimonRaven | same for the initrd= |
| 12:21.06 | pedro420 | nvz: Hos come when I try to open my volume control or sound mixer it says no mixer elements and/or devices found ? |
| 12:21.25 | nvz | pedro420: what says this? gnome-volume-applet? |
| 12:21.34 | SimonRaven | hanz: that way, you don't have to keep editing the file and re-running lilo |
| 12:21.38 | pedro420 | nvz: Is the liquor store even open today ? |
| 12:21.50 | hanz | SimonRaven: okay. but i still dont understand the fallback system of lilo.... hmm |
| 12:21.50 | eliteforce | why is php5 unstable? |
| 12:21.50 | nvz | pedro420: I heard they are suppose to open on sunday now |
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| 12:22.10 | pedro420 | nvz:I dunno, they might open at like 9 or 10 then |
| 12:22.11 | nvz | pedro420: they are getting 0wned sooner or later. |
| 12:22.47 | nvz | pedro420: chuck doesnt think so, but this is out of his hands. I cant believe the Village gossip queen doesnt know about it yet |
| 12:22.48 | SimonRaven | hanz: it's simple really. <tab> or selecting from the menu will show you different kernels to boot. you just pick one |
| 12:22.50 | hanz | SimonRaven: vmlinuz.old would be the old 2.4, but what if booting the new 2.6 fails? |
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| 12:23.16 | SimonRaven | you boot to the other one... |
| 12:23.30 | hanz | SimonRaven: but its a remote box, over 200 miles away ;) |
| 12:23.55 | pedro420 | nvz: Yeah thats hard to believe that there is soething he doesn't know about |
| 12:24.05 | SimonRaven | then you're fucked, aren't you ;) |
| 12:24.07 | eliteforce | why is php5 in the unstable section? |
| 12:24.08 | nvz | pedro420: if GE cant expand taking over DQ, Eckerd, the Wine & Spirit, Sewickley Curves, and the Hair and Nails Shop they threatened to leave.. and they bring in more money than all the rest of em |
| 12:24.28 | hanz | SimonRaven: no risk, no fun, eh? :D |
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| 12:25.16 | pedro420 | nvz: Oh really. I didn't hear that one |
| 12:25.30 | peej | gah! Total catch 22. I can't install apt without verifying it. But verifying depends on apt being able to verify. |
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| 12:25.45 | valdyn | peej: why cant you install it w/o verifying it? |
| 12:25.47 | nvz | pedro420: they want the Getgo in DQ lot, and they want their own pharmacy in place of eckerd, and to expand the other way to the post office with their own liquor store the whole 9 |
| 12:25.51 | valdyn | peej: typing 'y' is hard? |
| 12:26.00 | nvz | pedro420: they want that whole side of the village |
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| 12:26.45 | nvz | pedro420: so out of interest of the oldest richest customer none of the leases on those properties will be renewed. they have only one choice to move the fuck out or become part of GE |
| 12:26.47 | peej | valdyn : I get an error. |
| 12:27.05 | nvz | pedro420: he may not know it yet, but he'll be working inside GE eventually |
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| 12:27.26 | nvz | pedro420: it will still be state operated, but it will reside inside GE |
| 12:27.36 | pedro420 | nvz: He is a big enough ass kiss to take that one. |
| 12:27.57 | pedro420 | nvz: Yea like the one on camp horne road |
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| 12:31.14 | nvz | pedro420: I've been asleep since about this time yesturday, was fixated on taking that foot long sub I had and filling it with cheese stake this morning.. but didnt have any steak. Then I got the idea to get some tortillas and sausage and make some burritos since I got eggs, chese, and hashbrowns and probably bacon. So I am off on a mission this morning. |
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| 12:31.50 | pedro420 | nvz: I dunno what says tah it just says error. But the mixer I out at the bottom is gone. |
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| 12:32.32 | pedro420 | nvz: Better tell chuck if u see him he better get on the ball and out that info in his leetsdale gossip paper |
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| 12:34.05 | nvz | pedro420: he's not willing to believe his world can change he should well know by now, just doesnt want to admit it |
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| 12:35.13 | pedro420 | nvz: That mofo thinks he owns that liqour store, you shold know that. He stand at the door even when hes not workin |
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| 12:36.39 | nvz | pedro420: is casey up? |
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| 12:37.04 | weedar | thanks seeeS, I found it was using bind_adress = 127.0.0.1 :) |
| 12:37.07 | pedro420 | nvz: she left for work a little after 8 |
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| 12:37.49 | nvz | pedro420: oh. workin at the weirdest times. I didnt even know they were open. they had her go out there for what like 2 hours the other day?! |
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| 12:38.13 | pedro420 | nvz: 3 yeah they open at 9 |
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| 12:39.12 | nosklo | seeeS, i have mail |
| 12:39.14 | deefzi | it's 4:20pm soon. |
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| 12:39.22 | nosklo | seeeS, i use exim |
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| 12:39.48 | eliteforce | if i need testing software may i simply add 2 testing lines in sources.list? |
| 12:40.39 | seeeS | err, thats good |
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| 12:41.47 | stantheman1 | anyone here have some background on sasl auth to the *.*.yahoo.com mail relays? |
| 12:42.02 | nvz | pedro420: did you eat any thing this morning? |
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| 12:42.29 | pedro420 | nvz: Fuck no. |
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| 12:42.31 | levarris | hi, I have a problem with nautilus. I've created a new starter in my panel that looks like this: nautilus --browser --geometry=1024x768 But it won't start with those dimensions. If I enter it in xterm it's no problem. Suggestions?? |
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| 12:43.02 | seeeS | staniel, ive used sasl auth but not to yyahoo |
| 12:43.05 | citral | does someone have mails disapearing like me today? I launch fetchmail, postfix sees the mails, and then... nothing. procmail never see them, and they are nowhere. lost- |
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| 12:43.26 | chenwei | I think openoffice has added to the sid sources? But I want to konw it is a established version? |
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| 12:43.43 | eliteforce | why is there no lighttpd package in the debian repositories? |
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| 12:44.26 | levarris | hi, I have a problem with nautilus. I've created a new starter in my panel that looks like this: nautilus --browser --geometry=1024x768 But it won't start with those dimensions. If I enter it in xterm it's no problem. Suggestions?? |
| 12:44.27 | nvz | pedro420: I was gonna say I got the tiniest little bit of something to talk about after I eat. I could always bring my tortillas up there after I go to the store. :P nobody here eats sausage but me anyhow. and they all like to sleep all day would just be annoyed at someone cooking this time of the morning |
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| 12:44.40 | stantheman1 | seeeS: I was getting 550: auth required. I changed my transport the the long wacky FQDN of one of the yahoo.com relay servers, and not I don't get 550, but "Authentication failed: cannot SASL authenticate to server smtp.sbc.mail.yahoo4.akadns.net[68.142.198.11]: no mechanism available" |
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| 12:45.17 | pedro420 | nvz: Thats cool. Just me and the boy here, we don't mind. |
| 12:45.19 | stantheman1 | seeeS: wtf does "no mechanism available" mean? is that on my end or theirs? |
| 12:45.24 | citral | stantheman1: you need libsasl2-modules |
| 12:45.55 | stantheman1 | citral: i installed the postfix sasl module already |
| 12:46.06 | seeeS | staN: usuall yours |
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| 12:46.21 | seeeS | yeah, you need those modules |
| 12:46.29 | stantheman1 | seeeS, citral: please tell more |
| 12:46.35 | citral | stantheman1: you need libsasl2-modules |
| 12:46.40 | stantheman1 | ok |
| 12:46.55 | stantheman1 | citral: can you give me more background on why? plz |
| 12:47.14 | stantheman1 | citral: is it a rev. thing? |
| 12:47.16 | jon_ | how can i install libxslt to apache2 without compiling anything in debian sarge? is it possible? |
| 12:47.31 | citral | heh, because these modules are needed to provide encryption mechanisms.... |
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| 12:48.13 | seeeS | those modules plug into sasl so it knows how to talk to the server |
| 12:48.20 | stantheman1 | apt-get says it couldn't find libsas12-modules |
| 12:48.33 | stantheman1 | "libsasl12-modules? |
| 12:48.33 | seeeS | postfix-sasl just is the framework |
| 12:48.33 | citral | libsasl, not libsas1 |
| 12:48.43 | stantheman1 | heh |
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| 12:49.06 | stantheman1 | so "libsasl2-modules"? |
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| 12:49.32 | seeeS | stan: i got a write up about this http://small.dropbear.id.au/myscripts/postfixmysql.html |
| 12:49.48 | seeeS | down the bottom, client setup |
| 12:49.48 | stantheman1 | got it isntalled |
| 12:49.56 | stantheman1 | seeeS: thx, checking it out |
| 12:50.03 | levarris | hi, I have a problem with nautilus. I've created a new starter in my panel that looks like this: nautilus --browser --geometry=1024x768 But it won't start with those dimensions. If I enter it in xterm it's no problem. Suggestions?? |
| 12:50.48 | citral | fuck fuck fuck. new version of postfix fails with "disconnect from localhost.localdomain" |
| 12:50.58 | stantheman1 | lol |
| 12:51.07 | citral | wtf did the fuck with |
| 12:51.30 | stantheman1 | shitty install/upgrade routine? I hate that shit |
| 12:51.36 | stantheman1 | apparently you do also |
| 12:51.57 | stantheman1 | I'm on the debian 2.1.5 |
| 12:52.00 | stantheman1 | what's latest? |
| 12:52.02 | citral | of course I hate it, have to tell the 3 people who sent me a mail today to resend it |
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| 12:52.11 | stantheman1 | sry man |
| 12:52.14 | stantheman1 | i feel for ya |
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| 12:52.33 | stantheman1 | haven't been able to mail my, and only my dad, since Sat last week |
| 12:52.36 | citral | I#ll end up with a gmail account I guess, these crappy shit is unreliable |
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| 12:53.07 | stantheman1 | I switched from static to dynamic IP. Have always hosted my own mail server. You can imagine I've had problems since, no? heh |
| 12:53.26 | citral | pfff that sucks hard really |
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| 12:54.31 | citral | upgaded postfix yesterday from 2.2.4-1 to 2.2.4-1.0.1 and everything is just broken |
| 12:54.31 | stantheman1 | so I've had to build a Debian box (including hardware build), install postfix, and then learn the mail firewall/proxy setup, and now fight with the sasl shit to get the damn thing to relay through those f**king stupid ass SBC/Yahoo relay servers |
| 12:54.46 | stantheman1 | those ones designed STRICTLY for fuckikng outlook express users |
| 12:54.49 | stantheman1 | god damn auth |
| 12:54.53 | stantheman1 | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 12:55.05 | stantheman1 | I have an MX record!@ what the fuck more do they need???? |
| 12:55.07 | stantheman1 | jesus.... |
| 12:55.09 | stantheman1 | idiots |
| 12:55.22 | weedar | they want your money |
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| 12:55.42 | stantheman1 | you're on a dynamic IP. You MUST be a spammer. We ban you. Bye. |
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| 12:56.09 | stantheman1 | they don't even bother to check for an MX for a SMTP host sending to them, if it's on a dynamic IP |
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| 12:56.35 | stantheman1 | SBC/Yahoo relay server: "Oh, you're coming from what we know is a dynamic IP block. Bye" |
| 12:56.38 | SimonRaven | stantheman1: yup. gone too far imo. |
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| 12:57.28 | stantheman1 | if I ever meet an SBC/Yahoot, or Earthlink, or AOL mail system Engy, I'll take him/her into a dark alley, and only one of us will come out in one piece |
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| 12:58.10 | SimonRaven | that's why i don't like having to deal with their MTAs... hotmail is damn bad too |
| 12:58.27 | SimonRaven | they won't take 4xx for an answer |
| 12:58.33 | stantheman1 | they all want all their customers on dynamic IPs, because "it's easier for us to manage that way". Then, when a customer wants to host a mail server from that "forced on him dyn IP", they fuck him |
| 12:59.02 | stantheman1 | it's a catch 22 |
| 12:59.04 | SimonRaven | you well know it's bottom line they care about, not 'customer service' |
| 12:59.10 | stantheman1 | even worse.... |
| 12:59.26 | SimonRaven | 'easier to manage' == make as much $$ as possible |
| 12:59.46 | stantheman1 | they want all their custs on dyn IPs right? we all know this. Then, THEN, they CRY LOUDLY about "all the spam comes from the synamic IPs" |
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| 13:00.08 | stantheman1 | ooooh the irony |
| 13:00.19 | stantheman1 | they got what they asked for I guess.... |
| 13:00.20 | jon_ | xslt doesn't work in debian |
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| 13:01.06 | stantheman1 | they were charging me $75/month for 5 static 3Mb/384k adsl. It's $14.95/month for PPPoE. |
| 13:01.15 | stantheman1 | so yeah, I fuckn switched |
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| 13:01.31 | nathan | when installing gdk-pixbuf i get error: undefined symbol: jpeg_stdio_dest , any ideas? |
| 13:01.33 | SimonRaven | goddamn, getting ripped off. i pay 15$/mth for a /28 |
| 13:01.52 | SimonRaven | !any ideas |
| 13:01.52 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of string, a little cod liver oil, and a handful of rabid bunnies. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 13:01.56 | stantheman1 | but now I have to deal with this relaying issue. Why? Because I choose to run my own MTA, instead of using OE or Thunderbird with a PST, or their webmail. |
| 13:02.12 | bob2 | nathan: installing = installing the Debian package? |
| 13:02.28 | nathan | bob2: with apt on unstable yes :) |
| 13:02.55 | bob2 | nathan: ah, might just be a bug then; anything in the BTS yet? |
| 13:03.10 | nathan | nope nothing |
| 13:03.11 | SimonRaven | my total bill is like a bit over 47. includes 30$ for the dsl |
| 13:03.14 | bob2 | stantheman1: http://small.dropbear.id.au/myscripts/postfixmysql.html |
| 13:03.16 | stantheman1 | well lets try to send a mail again... |
| 13:03.22 | bob2 | stantheman1: (minus the mysql thing) |
| 13:03.33 | cyteen | I've added modules to /etc/modules to setup frequency scaling of the cpu on my laptop but on reboot that file is overwritten. Am I changing it in the wrong place? |
| 13:03.37 | nathan | i dont think it is a bug, i think it's something screwy on my box but i can't for the life of me think what |
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| 13:03.59 | bob2 | nathan: looking for stray libs in /usr/local/ would be my bet |
| 13:04.11 | bob2 | cyteen: that file should never be overwritten |
| 13:04.15 | pumpkin0 | got a hdparm-problem: If i switch the HD off with -y it never wakes up again. (FUJITSU MHT2060AT) |
| 13:04.22 | cyteen | Thats what I thought. |
| 13:04.25 | lac | I have an IBM thinkpad x40. It supposedly has bluetooth capability. I don't know a) how to tell if my kernel has a driver for it and b) how to turn it on if it does. |
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| 13:04.40 | nathan | bob2: fun :) |
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| 13:05.10 | cyteen | Any thoughts on how to see whats doing the overwriting? |
| 13:05.16 | bob2 | lac: hci_usb is the module, but hotplug should load it automatically |
| 13:05.37 | bob2 | lac: there's a little icon next to the wireless LED that indicates if it's on or off |
| 13:05.48 | bob2 | lac: tho you need the ibm_acpi module loaded for that to work |
| 13:05.59 | lac | ok, the icon is off. |
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| 13:06.52 | __naquad__ | hello everyone |
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| 13:06.56 | pumpkin0 | cyteen: if you just chmod it be read-only ? |
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| 13:07.28 | Son_of_Rage | hello |
| 13:07.43 | lac | bob2: ok, thanks very much. Will go away and build kernels now. Anythng else I should read or do before I go away? |
| 13:07.47 | cyteen | pumpkin0: I'll do that now. |
| 13:08.16 | stantheman1 | citral: hay, where you live man? I'ma come give you a big sloppy kiss man! libsasl2-modules did the trick!@ yayayayayayyay! I can email dad again! |
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| 13:08.43 | __naquad__ | people, I got problem with gnome & sound daemon: when I'm starting compilation or some really loading process sound noises. What should I do to fix it? |
| 13:08.48 | citral | stantheman1: I live actually in germany, had to set it up gor gmx here |
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| 13:09.10 | bob2 | lac: hm, don't think so. I'd be interested to know is suspend-to-ram works for you with a kernel.org kernel, tho :) |
| 13:09.16 | Benvolio | What can i do if kpdf does not print? |
| 13:09.45 | pumpkin0 | bob2: works here (R51). What's your problem ? |
| 13:09.48 | citral | stantheman1: and heh, I spent two hours or more on google before to figure out how it all works |
| 13:09.56 | Son_of_Rage | I got CentOS4 installed on my server right now, but I want to switch to Debian, but I am wondering about 1 thing... I have a LVM setup of several big disks which has data I cannot put anywhere else and cannot afford too loose... Can Debian like autodetect the disks are in a LVM together? |
| 13:10.20 | bob2 | pumpkin0: oh, I just haven't tried it, so I was wondering if it will work or not when I do :) |
| 13:10.25 | stantheman1 | good lordy all that relaying within yahoo makes for a LARGE header....sheesh |
| 13:10.58 | pumpkin0 | bob2: try this: echo -n 3 >/proc/acpi/sleep |
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| 13:11.24 | bob2 | pumpkin0: oh, I know how to do it, and I have it working with a patched kernel; I was just wondering if it worked in stock ones yet. |
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| 13:12.13 | pumpkin0 | bob2: i didn't have to patch 2.6.8, it worked first go (after building it with ipw2200 enabled). |
| 13:12.15 | lac | bob2: whenever I try suspend to ram, i get about 4 centimeters of noise lines on the top of my screen, and kde loses the ability to change desktops. Also you have to compensate for what you see on the screen is not where it really is -- all shifted down by the same amount. |
| 13:12.18 | citral | so what seems to happen since yesterday's upgrade is that fetchmail still catches mail, then postfix accepts the mail, but forwards it instantly to my smtp relay... |
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| 13:12.41 | lac | bob2: but I do not think I got this kernel from kernel.org |
| 13:12.43 | citral | instead of local delivery through procmail |
| 13:12.50 | lac | bob2: I think its sarge |
| 13:13.04 | pumpkin0 | lac: which gfx-card do you have ? |
| 13:13.29 | bob2 | pumpkin0: all x40s have i855, afaik |
| 13:13.35 | bob2 | lac: hm, ok |
| 13:14.01 | citral | hah ! /etc/aliases failure |
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| 13:14.48 | lac | Mine is i855 for sure. |
| 13:15.26 | bob2 | I just wish the disk was faster |
| 13:16.28 | stantheman1 | damn I'm so glad I got this working now |
| 13:16.37 | Son_of_Rage | I got CentOS4 installed on my server right now, but I want to switch to Debian, but I am wondering about 1 thing... I have a LVM setup of several big disks which has data I cannot put anywhere else and cannot afford too loose... Can Debian like autodetect the disks are in a LVM together? |
| 13:16.50 | bob2 | as long as / isn't on raid, you'll be fine |
| 13:16.53 | stantheman1 | hay guys |
| 13:17.05 | pumpkin0 | lac: add that "acpi_sleep=s3_bios" to your kernel-parameter-list. |
| 13:17.11 | stantheman1 | ping this. asdkjasldkfj.asjdhfjadhk.akjsdhfkjsdhf.hardwarefreak.com |
| 13:17.19 | bob2 | ah, yes, you need that with older kernels |
| 13:17.25 | bob2 | forgot about this |
| 13:17.25 | stantheman1 | stupid ddns |
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| 13:17.54 | bob2 | stantheman1: ? that doesn't even resolve |
| 13:18.13 | stantheman1 | my TZO DDNS will reply to any amount of bogus made up car |
| 13:18.18 | stantheman1 | it did for me |
| 13:18.37 | stantheman1 | it spits out an IP for anything at hardwarefreak.com |
| 13:18.40 | Tortel | Is there a reason why all DVD players crash on the menu? |
| 13:19.00 | stantheman1 | that was funny too |
| 13:19.29 | stantheman1 | because of that shit the ddns was doing, i had my greer.hardwarefreak.com postfix box talking to itself, literally |
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| 13:19.33 | stantheman1 | rofl |
| 13:19.49 | lac | Well, the only reason I am using an old kernel is that at a certain point the wireless stopped working with more modern ones in testing and unstable. |
| 13:20.13 | lac | but that was in July -- I suppose things are working again? |
| 13:20.24 | stantheman1 | had all kinds of errors in the log "responded to EHLO with my own host name, closing connection" |
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| 13:20.29 | oliver_ | hi |
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| 13:20.55 | pumpkin0 | got a hdparm-problem: If i switch the HD off with -Y it never wakes up again. (FUJITSU MHT2060AT). any ideas ? |
| 13:20.57 | oliver_ | debian is installing a desktop environment on a fresh system. 24minutes at 355kbytes/sec for this? |
| 13:21.14 | pumpkin0 | oliver_: possible... |
| 13:21.24 | stantheman1 | oliver_: takes long enough for a non-gui install over the net |
| 13:21.38 | jojo | How can I boot the Sarge installation with Grub? The Linux kernel fails to acknowledge the initrd i'm giving it. "cramsfs: wrong magic" "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00" (I've tried both root=/dev/rd/0 and root=/dev/ram as parameters to the kernel) |
| 13:21.41 | stantheman1 | oliver_: i bet that desktop install will be quite a while from the mirrors |
| 13:22.06 | oliver_ | i wonder because there was bind9 |
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| 13:22.06 | Tortel | w00t, it wroks! |
| 13:22.07 | Tortel | :D |
| 13:22.11 | oliver_ | wtf needs debian bind? |
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| 13:22.41 | pumpkin0 | oliver_: if you choose a server-style setup. |
| 13:22.48 | oliver_ | and it installs mutt and so on |
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| 13:22.52 | bob2 | jojo: custom kernel? |
| 13:22.56 | oliver_ | i choosed desktop environment |
| 13:22.59 | oliver_ | no 2.4 |
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| 13:23.17 | oliver_ | can i strg*c this? |
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| 13:24.17 | dobby | how do i have to enter this url to sourcelist? http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/Debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ |
| 13:24.24 | pumpkin0 | oliver_: no. wait for it to finish installing and check what happend. |
| 13:24.43 | jojo | bob2, sarge default |
| 13:25.00 | pumpkin0 | dobby: look at /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:25.20 | oliver_ | pumpkin0, to late :( ^ |
| 13:25.34 | dobby | I tried but it isnt working i tried deb http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/Debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ stable main |
| 13:25.47 | pumpkin0 | oliver_: reinstall... |
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| 13:26.38 | pumpkin0 | dobby: deb http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/Debian/ stable main |
| 13:26.49 | jojo | bob2, Booting grub over PXE ant loading the kernel and initrd over TFTP. kernel= linux (and arguments from pxelinux.cfg/default) and initrd= /initrd.gz I think it might have something to do with GRUB unpacking the inittrd and the kernel expecting it to be gzipped but not sure |
| 13:27.08 | oliver_ | pumpkin0, i clicked nothing |
| 13:27.24 | oliver_ | and now it also installs bind9 |
| 13:27.34 | dobby | thanks ! |
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| 13:28.11 | pumpkin0 | Anybody here at home with speedstep on a PentiumM dothan ? i need some advice. |
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| 13:28.15 | bbls | hello |
| 13:28.40 | bbls | how can i install debian by downloading first the kernel, net drivers and apt-get? |
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| 13:29.00 | bbls | i have a networked machine on which i want to install debian but no cd writer |
| 13:29.14 | bbls | what should i do? |
| 13:29.29 | pumpkin0 | bbls: netinstall-CD from www.debian.org => put it on a partiton and tell grub to load it. |
| 13:29.29 | Ronin | isnt there a floppy install as well? |
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| 13:29.37 | oliver_ | pumpkin0, howto determine what debian installed? |
| 13:29.39 | bbls | hmm, is it? |
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| 13:30.20 | pumpkin0 | oliver_: aptitude and check the key-packages. Like apache for server... |
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| 13:31.03 | oliver_ | pumpkin0, ok |
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| 13:32.40 | stantheman1 | citral: thx again for the help with sasl |
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| 13:32.48 | citral | stantheman1: np man |
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| 13:33.21 | Berserker22 | Hi all ! How may I recompile PHP4 with mysql4.1 support via "debian-way" ? |
| 13:33.26 | stew | pumpkin0: what's wrong with your speedstep? |
| 13:33.56 | Berserker22 | because php4-mysql package uses "mysql 4.0 API" |
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| 13:34.06 | oliver_ | pumpkin0, i started aptitude |
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| 13:34.47 | oliver_ | what to do now? |
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| 13:35.35 | Applejax33 | any dns guru's around? |
| 13:35.42 | stew | Berserker22: which version of debian are you on? |
| 13:35.45 | asg | Applejax33: plenty in #dns |
| 13:35.53 | spoopin | asg: hi |
| 13:35.55 | stew | Applejax33: ask a real question |
| 13:35.57 | asg | spoopin: morning |
| 13:36.01 | spoopin | asg: beer? |
| 13:36.07 | Applejax33 | thanks |
| 13:36.08 | asg | spoopin: of course |
| 13:36.11 | Applejax33 | beer in the morning? |
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| 13:36.17 | Ronin | ok ill take one |
| 13:36.20 | spoopin | asg: cool - see you there |
| 13:36.22 | asg | Applejax33: sure but this is in reference to lunch |
| 13:36.24 | asg | spoopin: cool |
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| 13:36.33 | Applejax33 | ahhh almost dinner here |
| 13:36.36 | Applejax33 | so im in |
| 13:36.36 | spoopin | Applejax33: it's not morning everywhere |
| 13:36.49 | asg | spoopin: time is an illusion, lunctime doubly so |
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| 13:37.20 | stew | Berserker22: php4-mysql is sarge already has mysql 4.1 support |
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| 13:37.46 | Berserker22 | stew, debian testing |
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| 13:38.10 | Berserker22 | stew, but in phpinfo() output i cant see "4.1 api" |
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| 13:38.45 | stew | Berserker22: do you have mysql-common-4.1 installed? |
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| 13:38.59 | DTE2 | hi all |
| 13:39.08 | Applejax33 | heya |
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| 13:39.39 | DTE2 | i have a problem with spumux...anybody knows about it? |
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| 13:39.54 | oliver_ | there are more than 100 packages installed on a brand new debiansystem |
| 13:40.01 | oliver_ | is thee something wrong? |
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| 13:41.29 | nvz | oh boy |
| 13:41.33 | asg | oliver_: nothing wrong with that. You probably used aptitude. |
| 13:41.35 | Ryugi | i would like t o know if there is a big difference netween FreeBSD and Linux |
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| 13:41.47 | bob2 | Ryugi: if you have to ask, no |
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| 13:41.49 | oliver_ | more than 200 :( |
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| 13:41.52 | Applejax33 | lol |
| 13:41.53 | bbrazil | Ryugi: linux has a cooler name |
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| 13:42.03 | oliver_ | and i marked nothing to install while installing debia |
| 13:42.03 | Ryugi | just that |
| 13:42.05 | asg | Ryugi: there are lots of differences but they are both Unixy so there are many similarities. |
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| 13:42.15 | bbrazil | Ryugi: its part of a Linus quote |
| 13:42.25 | nvz | sucks to be you guys getting trolled in #debian while we are making yummy breakfast burritos |
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| 13:42.55 | Applejax33 | mmmmm breakfast borrito miss them |
| 13:43.06 | oliver_ | asg, howto determine what is installed and what not? |
| 13:43.07 | bob2 | do they really exist? |
| 13:43.17 | asg | oliver_: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
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| 13:43.24 | asg | bob2: Burritos? |
| 13:43.37 | nvz | yeah I've been away from texas for like 6 months and havent had one since |
| 13:43.47 | bob2 | asg: for breakfast |
| 13:43.54 | Applejax33 | uggh i havent been in the US in 5 months and I miss em |
| 13:44.01 | bob2 | it sounds as bizarre as breakfast tacos |
| 13:44.02 | asg | bob2: sure, the place we are having lunch today has them on the brunch menu |
| 13:44.18 | nvz | the flour tortilla replaces the bread/toast |
| 13:44.18 | bob2 | how do they differ from regular burritos? |
| 13:44.24 | Applejax33 | they so good |
| 13:44.33 | asg | bob2: usually more ham and eggs than beef |
| 13:44.38 | Berserker22 | stew, no. But I have mysql-common installed |
| 13:44.44 | bob2 | oh, wow |
| 13:44.46 | Applejax33 | eggs salsa ham green stuff |
| 13:44.48 | nvz | they have eggs, chese, sausage, hashbrows, bacon, whatever |
| 13:44.53 | bob2 | now it's 2344 and I want a breakfast burrito |
| 13:45.01 | Applejax33 | lol |
| 13:45.01 | nvz | heh |
| 13:45.02 | Phated | Yeh, me too. |
| 13:45.05 | asg | bob2: nothing wrong with that either ;) |
| 13:45.14 | Applejax33 | 16:45 here |
| 13:45.35 | Berserker22 | Applejax33, tue |
| 13:45.38 | Berserker22 | true |
| 13:45.41 | stew | Berserker22: thats why you are seeing 4.0 instead of 4.1 |
| 13:45.43 | woodland | hi how do i look for ntfs volumes, is there any coomand |
| 13:45.51 | Phated | Hm, hashbrowns in tortilla shells? I want one. |
| 13:45.56 | Applejax33 | ntfs on debian? |
| 13:46.04 | Applejax33 | omg stop im so hungary now |
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| 13:47.16 | Applejax33 | has anyone tried loading coldfuision on debian |
| 13:47.27 | woodland | Applejax33, i have both win xp on debian on my pc |
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| 13:47.52 | Applejax33 | just have xp on my laptop but i have 40 debian servers lol |
| 13:48.06 | Applejax33 | and i know <--> much debian |
| 13:48.23 | oliver_ | asg, ok there are MANY packages :( |
| 13:48.30 | woodland | Applejax33, i wanna access win xp from debian |
| 13:48.38 | Applejax33 | ah |
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| 13:48.45 | nevyn | Applejax33: the kernel guys just fixed it... |
| 13:48.58 | Applejax33 | nice |
| 13:49.09 | woodland | Applejax33, do you know how to do it |
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| 13:49.25 | nevyn | Applejax33: so in a little while there will be write support for ntfs in the kernel proper YAY |
| 13:49.55 | nevyn | woodland: accessing NTFS under linux is kinda broken |
| 13:49.57 | Berserker22 | stew, but when i tried to instal mysql-common-4.1, it aked me about remove packets : libmysqlclient14 libmysqlclient14-dev mysql-client-4.1 mysql-common mysql-server-4.1. This mean that mysql-common-4.1 conflicts with mysql-server-4.1. What I should do? |
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| 13:50.16 | woodland | nevyn, there is a package called libntfs-gnomevfs |
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| 13:50.34 | bob2 | ignore it |
| 13:50.36 | woodland | nevyn, but i dont know how to use the package |
| 13:50.42 | bob2 | this is not rocket science |
| 13:50.47 | bob2 | edit /etc/fstab to mount the ntfs drive |
| 13:50.56 | bob2 | the format is simple and unchanged from everything else in there |
| 13:50.57 | nevyn | bob2: that's easy to read it. |
| 13:50.57 | oliver_ | aptitude shows crap to me |
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| 13:51.07 | nevyn | bob2: writing to it is more tricky tho. |
| 13:51.09 | oliver_ | there are the same packages in not installed and in installed |
| 13:51.14 | bob2 | oh, sure |
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| 13:51.30 | woodland | bob2, hi, what package do you use to mount ntfs drive |
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| 13:52.10 | oliver_ | howto deinstall a whole section like server? |
| 13:52.17 | nevyn | woodland: mkdir /winxp; mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 (assuming that's where winxp is) /winxp |
| 13:52.32 | quitte | can someone from .cz help me understand this: www.abclinuxu.cz/forum/show/20960 ? |
| 13:52.37 | bob2 | woodland: no, read again what I said, you do not install packages, you edit /etc/fstab |
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| 13:52.49 | woodland | nevyn, how do i see where winxp is |
| 13:53.06 | nevyn | woodland: what's your harddisk? |
| 13:53.06 | woodland | bob2, i dont have /etc/fstab |
| 13:53.14 | nevyn | woodland: rubbish you don't |
| 13:53.15 | bob2 | yes, you do |
| 13:53.42 | woodland | nevyn, what do you mean |
| 13:53.44 | bob2 | fdang, that was my plan |
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| 13:53.54 | deefzi | where can i select so that pcspkr is not compiled into a kernel or as a module? |
| 13:54.41 | oliver_ | if i call base-config there comes up apt-configuration |
| 13:54.43 | oliver_ | is that normal? |
| 13:54.49 | woodland | nevyn, i dont know where my win xp is |
| 13:54.56 | nevyn | woodland: too many cooks spoilt broth... |
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| 13:55.08 | woodland | lol |
| 13:55.24 | Applejax33 | lol look out for the bird flu |
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| 13:56.13 | woodland | nevyn, what you mean |
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| 13:57.27 | SimonRaven | time for a coffee or other caffinated beverage... |
| 13:57.53 | nevyn | woodland: how and where is your harddisk attached to your computer? |
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| 13:58.01 | cahoot | deefzi: you configuring a kernel? |
| 13:58.07 | woodland | nevyn, i have a laptop |
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| 13:58.26 | deefzi | cahoot, yep. i tried yesterday all night trying to toggle the pc-beeper bell off, but it didn't work. |
| 13:58.28 | cahoot | deefzi: hit '/' in menuconfig and search for pcspkr |
| 13:58.29 | woodland | nevyn, i dont understand your question |
| 13:58.30 | nevyn | woodland: that's nice for you but doesn't answer my question |
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| 13:58.55 | Applejax33 | probably the internal hard drive |
| 13:58.55 | deefzi | cahoot, came into conclusion that it's easier to compile kernel with no such support |
| 13:58.58 | nevyn | woodland: is the drive IDE (most likely), sata (this is possible if it's a very new laptop) |
| 13:59.01 | bob2 | woodland: ie ide? scis? sata? what partition is the windows one? |
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| 13:59.16 | asg | deefzi: /msg dpkg bell |
| 13:59.19 | Applejax33 | is there scsi in laptops |
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| 13:59.23 | Applejax33 | havent seen many |
| 13:59.27 | cahoot | deefzi: man setterm /xset to solve it |
| 13:59.48 | woodland | nevyn, see i am newbie here, when i do 'du ' it show something like hda |
| 13:59.50 | nevyn | Applejax33: definitly.. older ppc's and some high end x86 laptops had/have scsi |
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| 13:59.56 | SimonRaven | Applejax33: old mac lappies did |
| 13:59.59 | deefzi | asg, tried all those. especially "set bell-style none" in /etc/inputrc. didn't work. |
| 13:59.59 | nevyn | woodland: ah.. your hard disk is hda |
| 14:00.00 | Applejax33 | woah going way back |
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| 14:00.21 | SimonRaven | like the 150s, etc. |
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| 14:00.32 | woodland | nevyn, now how do i see where xp is |
| 14:00.38 | asg | deefzi: well, setterm + xset have always worked for me in console and X respectively. |
| 14:00.40 | nevyn | woodland: run fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 14:00.45 | woodland | ok |
| 14:01.06 | deefzi | asg, ok. good to know |
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| 14:02.07 | kandalf | hi there |
| 14:02.34 | kandalf | does anybody know any utility to find sector errors on hds or something similar? |
| 14:02.43 | asg | kandalf: badblocks |
| 14:02.44 | SimonRaven | badblocks |
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| 14:02.55 | kandalf | bootable from cd? |
| 14:03.00 | asg | kandalf: no, it's a command |
| 14:03.03 | kandalf | ok |
| 14:03.15 | nevyn | woodland: find it? |
| 14:03.15 | kandalf | do you know if knoopix has it? |
| 14:03.24 | woodland | nevyn, come to #flood , posted it |
| 14:03.30 | asg | kandalf: it probably does but I don't know for sure. #knoppix will know though |
| 14:03.41 | kandalf | ok |
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| 14:03.52 | kandalf | and is badblocks able to fix errors? |
| 14:03.57 | bop1 | any idea how can i install SDL in debian? |
| 14:04.14 | bop1 | qemu wont work without sdl, and for some reason apt-get installs qemu without fetching sdl too |
| 14:04.16 | Notor | "device node /dev/hdb6 for root filesystem is missing ... " fstab looks ok and / is visible but it hangs on boots with that message |
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| 14:04.35 | asg | kandalf: it can mark bad sectors |
| 14:05.02 | woodland | nevyn, see that ? |
| 14:05.08 | bob2 | kandalf: if badblocks sees bad blocks, it means your disk is having big issues |
| 14:05.23 | kandalf | yeah, i know |
| 14:05.37 | kandalf | im have an quite old 5400rpm 40gb hd |
| 14:05.44 | kandalf | and it fails duiring inode creation |
| 14:05.52 | nevyn | woodland: yep got it |
| 14:05.54 | nevyn | so it's hda1 |
| 14:05.58 | SimonRaven | pretty gone then |
| 14:06.03 | kandalf | I mean, it stops at 33% |
| 14:06.14 | kandalf | and Im trying to find out what happens |
| 14:06.15 | nevyn | woodland: so to check run mkdir /winxp |
| 14:06.21 | woodland | nevyn, so first i mkdir /winxp |
| 14:06.38 | nevyn | woodland: right this is to have somewhere to mount the drive |
| 14:06.44 | woodland | ok |
| 14:07.01 | bop1 | anyone? |
| 14:07.08 | nevyn | then run "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /winxp" |
| 14:07.15 | woodland | nevyn, ok |
| 14:07.24 | SimonRaven | bop1: so file a bug then. and install the needed bits... |
| 14:07.28 | deefzi | asg, hmm. how could i set universally 'setterm -blength 0' |
| 14:07.34 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 14:07.41 | bop1 | SimonRaven i dont know whats the name of the package. |
| 14:07.51 | SimonRaven | so you find out |
| 14:07.59 | bop1 | apt-catch search sdl shows all sort of things but not directly sdl or libsdl |
| 14:08.02 | asg | deefzi: in your dotfiles, /etc/profile (and others) |
| 14:08.09 | asg | !depends qemu |
| 14:08.16 | SimonRaven | bop1: apt-cache show qemu |
| 14:08.20 | nevyn | woodland: then it should be mounted and work.. if you want to mount it at boot you need to add a line to /etc/fstab |
| 14:08.32 | woodland | nevyn, ok |
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| 14:08.58 | bop1 | SimonRaven and? just gives a packet description |
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| 14:09.06 | nevyn | woodland: you probably also want to add some options to allow your non-root normal user account access to the drive |
| 14:09.09 | SimonRaven | read it |
| 14:09.12 | enickma | hey all, i'm trying to load a root terminal through a custom application launcher using the command "sudo gnome-terminal" but it only occassionally works. Could someone explain why? Thanks |
| 14:09.15 | SimonRaven | Depends: |
| 14:09.27 | asg | bop1: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libsdl1.2debian (>> 1.2.7+1.2.8), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), vgabios (>= 0.4c+20041014-1), bochsbios (>= 2.1.1+20041109-3) |
| 14:09.32 | dpkg | qemu: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libsdl1.2debian (>> 1.2.7+1.2.8), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), vgabios (>= 0.4c+20041014-1), bochsbios (>= 2.1.1+20041109-3), proll, openhackware |
| 14:09.34 | ttick | grr. why is firefox always so far behind in the debian distro -- even experimental is a few months behind. |
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| 14:09.38 | asg | finally, stupid bot |
| 14:09.45 | nevyn | enickma: because sudo prompts for a password.. but caches the authorised responce |
| 14:09.58 | nevyn | enickma: so if you've used sudo in the last 5mins somewhere... it'll work |
| 14:10.00 | enickma | so is there any way i can launch a root terminal? |
| 14:10.02 | nevyn | otherwise it'll fail |
| 14:10.04 | bop1 | SimonRaven 'depends' is retrieved only with apt-cache depends qemu, not with show, and as i said libsdl cant be installed with apt-get |
| 14:10.06 | woodland | nevyn, i did 'mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /winxp' now what other options should be there so that non root can access it |
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| 14:10.07 | enickma | ah i get you |
| 14:10.09 | groton | hello all |
| 14:10.16 | SimonRaven | bop1: bull fucking shit |
| 14:10.19 | nevyn | woodland: read the man page for mount.. I don't know. |
| 14:10.19 | enickma | is there any way i could do it though? |
| 14:10.28 | woodland | ok |
| 14:10.30 | bop1 | asg so why didnt it resolve it when i apt-get install qemu? |
| 14:10.31 | asg | ttick: what debian version are you running? |
| 14:10.36 | SimonRaven | *sigh* |
| 14:10.43 | asg | bop1: dpkg -l libsdl1.2debian (what's the output) |
| 14:10.48 | groton | i am still fighting vs the "ifup eth0" error.... SIOCSIFADDR: No such device :\ any help or hint? i searched on google without getting any help |
| 14:10.55 | ttick | asg: testing. but firefox is from experimental (1.499 beta) |
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| 14:11.03 | nevyn | groton: what sort of nic? |
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| 14:11.20 | bop1 | asg yea its installed, err but when i tried to run qemu it says it isnt |
| 14:11.22 | groton | nevyn, 8139too |
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| 14:11.34 | bop1 | emu myxp_clean.img |
| 14:11.34 | bop1 | warning: could not open /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation |
| 14:11.34 | bop1 | Could not initialize SDL - exiting |
| 14:11.38 | asg | !info mozilla-firefox etch |
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| 14:11.48 | SimonRaven | bop1: run ldconfig, then try again |
| 14:12.13 | Zta | Can someone please help me install apache? apt-get install apache acts weird. |
| 14:12.18 | bop1 | nuddin to do with that, its not a library it cant find |
| 14:12.26 | bop1 | it tries to open /dev/fb0 and doesnt find it |
| 14:12.29 | enickma | nevyn: is there any other way I could set it up? |
| 14:12.45 | Applejax33 | ok noob question |
| 14:12.45 | asg | Zta: apt-get install apache is the way to install it. What do you mean by 'acts weird'? |
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| 14:12.52 | SimonRaven | bop1: does it exist? |
| 14:12.55 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-5 (etch), Packaged size: 7442 kB, Installed size: 21012 kB |
| 14:13.00 | bob2 | groton: it means it says "eth0 does not exist". you checked and found "ifconfig -a" knew about eth0? |
| 14:13.04 | Zta | The following extra packages will be installed: apache-common apache2-utils e2fslibs e2fsprogs libapr0 libc6 libc6-dev libncursesw5 locales lynx This leads to: E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 14:13.05 | asg | ttick: 1.0.6 in etch |
| 14:13.05 | nevyn | groton: so the module is loaded and the interface works.. just ifup fails? |
| 14:13.07 | SimonRaven | dpkg being slow today |
| 14:13.13 | nevyn | groton: man 5 interfaces |
| 14:13.17 | bop1 | SimonRaven no. |
| 14:13.20 | groton | nevyn, yes, it seems so. |
| 14:13.23 | asg | SimonRaven: updating packages. I expect nobody has used that function in a bit |
| 14:13.36 | SimonRaven | bop1: then create it; do you have framebuffer video? |
| 14:13.45 | Applejax33 | where do i switch debian from debian to the next release version |
| 14:13.45 | asg | groton: make sure /sbin/ifconfig -a shows an eth0 |
| 14:13.45 | ttick | asg: 1.499 > 1.0.6 |
| 14:13.49 | SimonRaven | asg: again? oh, etch |
| 14:14.18 | Zta | Any suggestion to what I should from here? |
| 14:14.33 | SimonRaven | bop1: i believe you can do something like cd /dev; MAKEDEV fb |
| 14:14.35 | bop1 | SimonRaven i need to recompile my kernel for that or is there a loadable module? |
| 14:14.35 | ttick | asg: you'd think experimental would be on 1.5beta2 at least. |
| 14:14.39 | SimonRaven | man MAKEDEV |
| 14:14.44 | asg | ttick: 1.0.7 is the latest stable release according to their site |
| 14:14.45 | SimonRaven | bop1: either |
| 14:14.50 | groton | asg: i havent been able till now. but i never had problem with any other kernels, like 2.6.10. now i am using 2.6.12 |
| 14:14.53 | SimonRaven | bop1: well, depends on the driver |
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| 14:15.03 | Zta | I've tried doing an apt-get install e2fsprogs but since this package is essential, apt goes bananas and scares me. |
| 14:15.04 | SimonRaven | bop1: and how that kernel was configured |
| 14:15.05 | nevyn | groton: you need to tell the interfaces config file about the interface |
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| 14:15.14 | groton | nevyn, alredy set that |
| 14:15.24 | ttick | asg: yes. It is. though I would have thought that 'experimental' would have a newer beta than 1.499 |
| 14:15.24 | nevyn | groton: including auto eth0 ? |
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| 14:15.41 | bop1 | SimonRaven ok ./MAKEDEV fb created it |
| 14:15.42 | bop1 | thanks |
| 14:15.45 | ttick | asg: since 1.5beta2 has been around a few months. |
| 14:15.47 | nevyn | groton: show me in #flood? |
| 14:15.57 | asg | ttick: no, I'm surprised they have that actually. experimental doesn't imply packaging beta or alpha code. |
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| 14:15.59 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 14:16.12 | asg | ttick: just beta or alpha packages of upstream stable releases. |
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| 14:16.34 | asg | ttick: of course, /usr/local and /opt exist for you to install whatever beta code you want locally. |
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| 14:17.16 | groton | nevyn, i could paste on some sites, and then i will show you |
| 14:17.25 | nevyn | ok |
| 14:17.35 | Applejax33 | from what i hear u can switch versions and do an aptitude update |
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| 14:18.03 | asg | Applejax33: for stable to stable upgrades, each release includes and update manually that walks you through it. |
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| 14:18.25 | asg | Applejax33: if you mean upgrade current stable to testing or unstable, you can do that but you can't go back once you do. |
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| 14:18.53 | groton | nevyn, in th mean time, how could i set up dns again? i removed etherconf now, and now i cant get the resolving of names working.... i edited resolf.conf and restarted the network, but still, the names does not get resolved |
| 14:19.04 | Applejax33 | yea |
| 14:19.07 | Applejax33 | that the one |
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| 14:19.18 | Applejax33 | i want to move one of my test servers to testing |
| 14:19.22 | SimonRaven | you don't need to restart the network when you edit resolv.conf |
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| 14:19.45 | groton | nevyn, ah, nm, i resolved the dns problem already |
| 14:20.22 | Applejax33 | also another question anyone here work with compaq servers and debian |
| 14:20.28 | SimonRaven | groton: the systrem does need a bit of time to catch up to the changes however. not sure how long, but it's pretty fast normally |
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| 14:20.35 | SimonRaven | groton: err, system |
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| 14:20.40 | ttick | asg: yeah, I might end up doing that. Didn't really want to. Ah well. Strange, is 1.0.7 considered "stable" if it has so many security flaws? |
| 14:20.59 | asg | ttick: there is heavy discussion on the devel lists about that issue |
| 14:21.09 | ttick | asg: oh, good to know. |
| 14:21.16 | ttick | asg: thanks for the clarifications. |
| 14:21.19 | asg | ttick: you're welcome |
| 14:21.21 | groton | nevyn, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jpVfce12.html |
| 14:21.24 | cbr | 1.0.7 has some secutiry fixes compared to 1.0.6 |
| 14:21.58 | SimonRaven | 1.0.6 was branded 1.0.6sarge1 or soemthing, and it was just a sarge build of sid's 1.0.6 |
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| 14:22.17 | asg | SimonRaven: was it sid's 1.0.6 or sid's 1.0.7? |
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| 14:22.34 | SimonRaven | 1.0.7 wasn't out yet ;) |
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| 14:22.41 | Applejax33 | has anyone played with failover nic cards? |
| 14:22.45 | bop1 | is there a specific way to compile kernel in debian or do i go through the regular procedure? |
| 14:22.52 | asg | SimonRaven: ah ;) |
| 14:22.56 | SimonRaven | bop1: /msg dpkg kp |
| 14:23.41 | SimonRaven | i really like all the little tools and stuff to make stuff easier, that debian has. really cool shit :) |
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| 14:24.32 | Notor | "device node /dev/hdb6 for root filesystem is missing ... " i added a new disk and now deb won't boot :( |
| 14:24.34 | asg | SimonRaven: like cowsay and wtf |
| 14:24.35 | ttick | yeah, I think I'll go back to 1.0.7. At least all my extensions work for that release. Soooo hard to manage without "add bookmark here" LOL |
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| 14:25.00 | SimonRaven | asg: yeh, and little admin tools, and kernel building tools, and package tools, ... ;) |
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| 14:25.20 | asg | SimonRaven: hehe, of course :) |
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| 14:26.19 | SimonRaven | ttick: or adblock, or 'remove this object' |
| 14:26.41 | nevyn | bop1: there's a specific way but if you wan't you can use the regular procedure. |
| 14:27.05 | nevyn | ~tell bop1 about kernel-package |
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| 14:27.47 | ttick | SimonRaven: adblock is usuall supported for just about everything -- considering it's impossible to surf w/o it. Pretty much the killerapp of the web-world. |
| 14:28.11 | SimonRaven | yeh, that, and user stylesheets |
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| 14:29.22 | Daniel_Yaury | anybody using Addsubfx? |
| 14:29.46 | cockroach | !anyone |
| 14:29.46 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 14:30.45 | Daniel_Yaury | <ask> |
| 14:30.56 | Daniel_Yaury | I'm using Addsubfx |
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| 14:31.27 | Daniel_Yaury | and I can't connect my Yamaha keyboard. |
| 14:31.27 | groton | aaah, boys, my nic is not a 8139too, that one was on the other comp!!! |
| 14:31.27 | SimonRaven | @no anyone is <reply> Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 14:31.28 | ravenbird | okay, SimonRaven |
| 14:31.38 | SimonRaven | Daniel_Yaury: /msg dpkg ask |
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| 14:33.34 | groton | anyone know which module si should install for this NIC? nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller ? |
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| 14:34.29 | woodland | nevyn, hi i found good link for mounting >>http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_(DOS,_FAT,NTFS) |
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| 14:34.56 | nevyn | woodland: happy for you. |
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| 14:36.19 | Notor | "the device node ... for the root filesystem is missing ... " what does this mean? |
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| 14:37.07 | asg | Notor: that's bad. Did you compile your own kernel? |
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| 14:37.24 | Notor | asg: i merely added a new disk |
| 14:37.25 | hackeron | hey, debian gives a segmentation fault when I run apt-build source package-name. Any ideas what could be the cause or how to get the cause? |
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| 14:37.44 | asg | hackeron: use strace to find what it's doing when it segfaults |
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| 14:38.08 | asg | Notor: hmmm, odd |
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| 14:38.32 | Notor | asg: yes, i see the whole filesystem but it hangs during boot with that message |
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| 14:39.19 | Notor | asg: i'm using a bog standard kernel |
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| 14:39.36 | hackeron | asg: http://rafb.net/paste/results/w279cv52.html < the last few lines, there is a *lot* of output |
| 14:39.36 | asg | Notor: and if you remove the new drive, it boots right up with no problem? |
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| 14:40.02 | Notor | asg: now there's an idea .... |
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| 14:40.30 | asg | hackeron: nothing really jumps out. Anything odd in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log? |
| 14:40.42 | khanman | anyone here using the Altina G-Mouse GPS receiver (GGM308)? not sure which dev I should be using...../dev/ttys3 ? |
| 14:40.46 | hackeron | asg: Oct 23 15:40:31 localhost kernel: apt-build[29365]: segfault at 0000000000000030 rip 00002aaaab83e51f rsp 00007fffff8cbdf0 error |
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| 14:41.14 | asg | hackeron: have you been experiencing other segfaults recently? |
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| 14:42.03 | hackeron | asg: not really, I had ssh stop working after a dist-upgrade, but I purged and re-installed it, and that got rid of the segmentation faults, everything else is fine |
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| 14:42.40 | robert1976 | hello! I'm new to linux and I've managed to install sarge, but I can't get X11 to work - I think I'm missing thee correct driver. Can someone help me out a bit - thanks! |
| 14:42.45 | asg | hackeron: you might want to test your memory, it could be a sign that it's going. Also, if you rerun the build, does it segv in the same place? |
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| 14:43.31 | hackeron | asg: well, its a new machine so I ran a memtest for 8 hours on it before installation, no errors |
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| 14:43.52 | hackeron | asg: yes, it segv in the same place every time I ran strace |
| 14:44.01 | asg | hackeron: hmmm, interesting. Running sarge? |
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| 14:44.44 | hackeron | asg: well, its an amd64, tried to ran sarge but that had no packages, updated to etch, again, not enough packages, updated to sid, not as many packages as x86 but oh well, lol |
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| 14:45.13 | asg | hackeron: ah, that might be the issue. Have you asked in #debian-amd64? They have probably experienced similar issues. |
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| 14:45.44 | hackeron | asg: what I noticed is many packages are missing from sid, many from etch and many from sarge, too many unmet dependencies unless all 3 repositories are enabled in sources.list |
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| 14:46.00 | qwertz | Hi, is there some option to make a ssh connection persistent, so that the connection is reestablished if it is lost for some reason (use of authorized key is configured)? |
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| 14:46.13 | asg | hackeron: I've heard similar but don't have an amd64 to test things myself. |
| 14:46.29 | bop1 | when i try to run X apps from konsole or something it says (gnome-terminal:2759): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 14:46.33 | bop1 | any idea? |
| 14:46.56 | hackeron | asg: ok, I'll try the amd64 channel |
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| 14:47.07 | asg | hackeron: sorry I don't have more concrete ideas other than that |
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| 14:48.02 | MacTheNife | no one an idea? :-( |
| 14:48.08 | hackeron | asg: its ok, thanks anyway. Didnt really expect smooth sailing on a platform that isnt officially supported afterall :) |
| 14:48.26 | khanman | where would i go to find a list of compatible gps harware? |
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| 14:48.31 | bop1 | asg any idea? |
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| 14:48.38 | asg | MacTheNife: investing tool? |
| 14:48.40 | en1gma | sup all |
| 14:48.48 | asg | bop1: are you trying to run apps as root from a terminal? |
| 14:48.59 | MacTheNife | asg: to manage your shares/charts |
| 14:49.08 | en1gma | i installed deb yesterday and even changed my kernel but i have a few Q. |
| 14:49.08 | MacTheNife | analysis |
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| 14:49.36 | asg | MacTheNife: I'm not aware of one. Gnucash is the only financial anything I've ever run across. Have you checked freshmeat.net? |
| 14:50.05 | MacTheNife | I know gnucash, but I am looking for something better |
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| 14:50.35 | en1gma | the way deb maintains its packages is nice (kinda) but tell me if i doing something wrong here. say i install an app and apt-get isntalls all the depends it needs. well when i uninstall some packages that run in X it removes parts of X that wont let me get back in X |
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| 14:51.12 | bop1 | asg even as a user same problem |
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| 14:51.13 | en1gma | its removing more then just a packages i select |
| 14:51.14 | MacTheNife | you have stockbrowser for windows, I am wondering if such a program is also available for deb |
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| 14:51.32 | bop1 | oh youre right. |
| 14:51.37 | bop1 | its only when i su to root |
| 14:51.39 | bop1 | how can i fix it |
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| 14:52.06 | en1gma | like say i install an X app (and X is already installed and working perfect) well when i uninstall that X app it is removing parts of X so i cant get back into |
| 14:52.07 | en1gma | X |
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| 14:52.16 | Notor | asg: re root filesystem is missing- it won't boot with either disk disabled in the bios, / is mounted and visible when i boot from floppy |
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| 14:53.18 | en1gma | is this normal? |
| 14:53.33 | MacTheNife | Is there a particular irc server+channel about investing(tools)? |
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| 14:54.02 | pureone | MacTheNife: what do you mean by investing tools? |
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| 14:54.25 | SimonRaven | Notor: is the /dev file there? i had that happen once. /dev/sdb3 had gotten corrupt, and got changed to a regular file, instead of a block device file - i thought my partition was gone, but it turned out to be the file itself. rm and mknod fixed it |
| 14:54.26 | en1gma | like yesterday when i did this i was in KDE and i used KDE package manager and i selected everything that was "GNOME" and uninstalled it. but BAM i couldnt get back into KDE after i rebooted |
| 14:54.27 | valdyn | en1gma: sounds like nonsense |
| 14:54.30 | MacTheNife | pureone: chartreading/portfolios making etc |
| 14:54.49 | en1gma | no its true |
| 14:54.58 | pureone | MacTheNife: no idea then :) |
| 14:55.06 | valdyn | en1gma: but to verify it we'd need the specifics |
| 14:55.07 | abrotman | !searc |
| 14:55.09 | goccia | MacTheNife: plenty for money business : qtstalker is a chart tool but you can do really everything using Larry Wall PERL : much better and faster then metastock things... :) |
| 14:55.09 | abrotman | !search |
| 14:55.09 | dpkg | i guess search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 14:55.17 | MacTheNife | pureone: :-( |
| 14:55.30 | Randall64 | Anyone know which wireless cards Just Works with open source linux drivers? |
| 14:55.40 | Randall64 | s/Works/Work/ |
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| 14:56.42 | Phated | Poke in the kernel config and see what cards are listed. |
| 14:56.48 | nevyn | this 3meg/second array is killing me. |
| 14:57.02 | dobby | is it possible to go back to samba 2.2 in debian sarge? I only see the 3.x!?! |
| 14:57.10 | nevyn | 3gig at 3meg/second == ? 1024 seconds... |
| 14:57.11 | Notor | SimonRaven: thx for the hint, /dev looks as it should for both disks |
| 14:57.12 | Mattias | from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/ which one should i pick? there are 14 of em :S |
| 14:57.17 | nevyn | dobby: why do you want to go back? |
| 14:57.24 | valdyn | en1gma: you probably removed gdm, as part of 'gnome' ( its just int the section gnome ), and now you still have KDE, but no login manager |
| 14:57.41 | en1gma | yea i think that could be it possible |
| 14:57.51 | en1gma | i dont like the login manager anyhow. i like to boot to cli |
| 14:57.57 | en1gma | and "startx" |
| 14:57.58 | dobby | because I searched the whole day for a howto to build a pdc on samba 3 and didn't find anything |
| 14:58.05 | SimonRaven | 2.2 is full of h0les why would you want to? |
| 14:58.09 | valdyn | en1gma: that should still work |
| 14:58.10 | Phated | en1gma: So remove your DMs. |
| 14:58.12 | SimonRaven | dobby: idealx.org |
| 14:58.25 | nevyn | dobby: umm... |
| 14:58.34 | SimonRaven | getting some google-fu helps too |
| 14:58.35 | en1gma | whats the command to select my XDM and command to "startx" |
| 14:58.35 | Mattias | anyone knows? |
| 14:58.50 | en1gma | its not xdm is it |
| 14:58.56 | SimonRaven | Mattias: #1 |
| 14:58.56 | nevyn | dobby: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba3-ByExample/index.html |
| 14:59.02 | valdyn | !find bin/startx |
| 14:59.12 | SimonRaven | ffs, their own site has it.... |
| 14:59.17 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/startx' (2): (/usr/bin/startxfce4) in x11/xfce4-utils ;; (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients. |
| 14:59.19 | valdyn | !find bin/startx sarge |
| 14:59.19 | en1gma | yea but i need to set the correct DM |
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| 14:59.32 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/startx' (2): (/usr/bin/startxfce4) in x11/xfce4-utils ;; (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients. |
| 14:59.33 | SimonRaven | !yeh but |
| 14:59.34 | valdyn | en1gma: xbase-clients contains startx |
| 14:59.50 | en1gma | ahhhh |
| 14:59.52 | en1gma | okie dokie |
| 14:59.53 | Phated | If you want to startx, you don't use a DM. 'nuff said. |
| 14:59.54 | en1gma | thanks man |
| 14:59.55 | Mattias | SimonRaven, nice, btw, ive been changing from gentoo to ubuntu, but ubuntu didnt have very up to date stuff, so im moving to debian cus i hate compiling stuff on gentoo, im wonder now, can i build kernels easy in debian as in gentoo? |
| 15:00.11 | SimonRaven | Mattias: easier |
| 15:00.17 | en1gma | so to do kde from command line it would be "startxkde"? |
| 15:00.27 | valdyn | en1gma: no, just startx |
| 15:00.28 | Mattias | SimonRaven, oh, any wiki page on how to? |
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| 15:00.42 | SimonRaven | Mattias: /msg dpkg kp |
| 15:00.57 | Mattias | SimonRaven, ty |
| 15:01.00 | SimonRaven | newbiedoc.sf.net has a section on it too |
| 15:01.10 | en1gma | "startx" dont work right now cause i uninstalled that gdm |
| 15:01.20 | Phated | en1gma: Ahhh, you want to start a certain WM or DE with your startx command? |
| 15:01.21 | en1gma | so dont i have to make it select kde first |
| 15:01.27 | en1gma | yes |
| 15:02.06 | Phated | en1gma: You're getting just the blank X screen, I suppose? Then you want startx /usr/bin/kde or whatever KDE's binary is. Or you want an xinitrc. |
| 15:02.20 | valdyn | en1gma: if you're not happy with your default Xsession, make your own ~/.xsession ( containing for example 'exec startkde' ) |
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| 15:02.20 | Phated | With a space, mind you. |
| 15:02.27 | Mattias | SimonRaven, so if i want nitro-sources. how would i do? |
| 15:02.39 | Mattias | SimonRaven, and reiser 4 files system |
| 15:03.01 | valdyn | uh, or .xinitrc instead .xsession for startx? i dont remember. |
| 15:03.16 | en1gma | when i do startx the monitor changes to blank and then bounces me back to cli |
| 15:03.30 | dvs | en1gma: X is not configured properly |
| 15:03.32 | useruser | i upgraded to x.org and now xv overlays are broken. how do I get back to xfree86? |
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| 15:03.39 | cahoot | en1gma: you killed the DM? |
| 15:03.53 | en1gma | yea i think i killed it |
| 15:03.55 | en1gma | :) |
| 15:04.05 | en1gma | something not right in denamrk |
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| 15:04.15 | Randall64 | Anyone actually have an 802.11g card working in linux? |
| 15:04.15 | Mattias | Anyone knows how i can get reiser4 filesystem on debian before i start installing? |
| 15:04.25 | Jon_ | Hi all, sorry about the newbie question, and sorry about interrupting the topic, but how can I move files in xterm, as opposed to cp and rm? |
| 15:04.32 | valdyn | en1gma: run 'ps aux | grep [xdk]dm' |
| 15:04.34 | Randall64 | Mattias: knoppix might support it |
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| 15:04.43 | dvs | Jon_: mv |
| 15:04.50 | valdyn | Mattias: why the hell would you do that? |
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| 15:04.53 | Jon_ | ah right... stupid me... thanks a lot |
| 15:05.03 | en1gma | heres what i did: i changed to 2.6.12.6 and it boots fine. i then went to KDE and packagetool and uninstalled all "gnome" i then went to term and tried to isntall my ati driver but it wouldnt cause i need header files |
| 15:05.08 | Mattias | valdyn, its fast :) ive been using it on gentoo, i just hate compiling stuff so moving to debian |
| 15:05.15 | en1gma | and i rebooted and could never get back to X |
| 15:05.29 | valdyn | Mattias: ...and it completely fucks up interactive latency |
| 15:05.40 | en1gma | if i have the sources installed arent the header files and modules all there |
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| 15:05.45 | Mattias | valdyn, didnt for me, worked very well :) |
| 15:05.48 | thingfish | no |
| 15:05.51 | Mattias | valdyn, tried it? |
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| 15:06.05 | en1gma | shouldnt the ati driver install ok as long as i have "/usr/src/linux-2.6.12.6" |
| 15:06.06 | thingfish | en1gma: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 15:06.17 | syntaxx | whats the diff between xorg and xfree? ^^ |
| 15:06.17 | valdyn | Mattias: sure, i dont talk about things i know nothing about |
| 15:06.19 | thingfish | header or headers, I can't remember |
| 15:06.30 | Phated | headers. |
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| 15:06.47 | thingfish | thanks, Phated. |
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| 15:06.47 | en1gma | thingfish that will install the headers from "/usr/src/linux-2.6.12.6"? |
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| 15:07.01 | Phated | :) thingfish |
| 15:07.06 | Mattias | valdyn, hehe well, if we forget about reiser4 for now, how do i get the nitro kernel on debian? |
| 15:07.16 | thingfish | en1gma: oh no, because that's not a debian kernel. |
| 15:07.18 | dvs | syntaxx: xorg is freer than xfree ironically. ;-) |
| 15:07.20 | cahoot | Mattias: get it from gentoo |
| 15:07.31 | thingfish | :) Phated you're sweet. |
| 15:07.44 | Phated | Awww, I like you too thingfish. :) |
| 15:07.46 | Mattias | cahoot, do i install it the same way in debian? |
| 15:07.52 | thingfish | aww shucks |
| 15:07.54 | en1gma | so headers are in the sources and i need to get them installed to do any building? |
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| 15:07.59 | Phated | Heh. |
| 15:08.01 | syntaxx | dvs: but the features between the two X server? is there a big difference? |
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| 15:08.08 | cahoot | Mattias: not if you want to do it 'the debian way' |
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| 15:08.17 | mithro | anyone know of a good deb creation howto? |
| 15:08.25 | dvs | syntaxx: Featurewise, no, just that xorg supports more current hardware |
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| 15:08.34 | cahoot | Mattias: that way is described in various howtos |
| 15:08.48 | Mattias | cahoot, ye, i did a /msg dpkg kp |
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| 15:08.53 | valdyn | Mattias: you download and unpack it as you always do with kernels, and configure it. Debian specifics: apt-get install libncurses5-dev so make menuconfig runs, apt-get install kernel-package for debians kernel package tool, then run 'make-kpkg kernel-image' to create a kernel-image deb, install it, reboot |
| 15:08.55 | Mattias | cahoot, but i didnt understand :P |
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| 15:09.08 | syntaxx | dvs: ic xfree support my hardware so i guess no need to try out xorg |
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| 15:09.29 | dvs | syntaxx: Then xfree should be fine for you. |
| 15:09.30 | Mattias | valdyn, omg, i think this will be hard :P im toooo used to gentoo :/ |
| 15:09.37 | Phated | mithro: /msg dpkg nm |
| 15:09.41 | cahoot | Mattias: http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-kernel-recompile.php |
| 15:09.43 | syntaxx | dvs, thanks |
| 15:09.52 | dvs | syntaxx: You will be upgraded in the next version of Debian though. |
| 15:10.18 | syntaxx | dvs, when will it be? and it will be uprade all the packages that i have in my system right? |
| 15:10.34 | Mattias | cahoot, so if i want nitro i do "apt-get install nitro-sources-2.6.14-nitro1" ? |
| 15:10.42 | valdyn | en1gma: your sources are obviously from your own custom kernel, you dont need 'extra' headers |
| 15:10.53 | dvs | syntaxx: Well, if there is a new version of the package, it will be upgraded. As for when this will happen, who knows! |
| 15:11.09 | valdyn | Mattias: no, get nitro from upstream |
| 15:11.17 | Notor | mmh, booting in recovery mode displays "VFS: can't find ext2 filesystem on device /dev/hdb6" ... perhaps it needs to look on /dev/hda6 ... how do i change where it looks? |
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| 15:11.38 | syntaxx | dvs, oh ok so no definite time or date thanks a lot |
| 15:11.38 | valdyn | Mattias: nitro is 'specifically' made for gentoo, there's no debian support included afaik. |
| 15:11.46 | en1gma | i installed everything as far as dev goes and i still cant do a "make menuconfig" or "make-kpkg clean" |
| 15:11.47 | dvs | syntaxx: No problem |
| 15:11.55 | en1gma | it says i need ncursesdev |
| 15:11.55 | Mattias | valdyn, bah :P im going to make this easier for me, im staying in ubuntu :P and when i got time im staying in gentoo :P its too big to change my linux way :/ |
| 15:11.57 | Eliteforce | where can i see which packages are essential for debian to run? |
| 15:12.08 | Phated | en1gma: apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 15:12.10 | en1gma | is that on cd 2 or soemthing |
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| 15:12.31 | en1gma | i tried to find it and i found those in "n" i think and installed em |
| 15:12.35 | Phated | CD 2?WTF? Why do you not have apt sources for http? |
| 15:12.38 | dvs | en1gma: If you have an internet connection, you don't have to worry about CDs anymore |
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| 15:12.49 | Eliteforce | !wtf |
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| 15:13.11 | en1gma | i cant have an internet connection until i can get this nvidia driver installed now (and that requires 2.6.12.6 headers) |
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| 15:13.25 | en1gma | the nvidia driver contains my nic card) |
| 15:13.28 | dvs | en1gma: video and network drivers are mutually exclusive |
| 15:13.29 | valdyn | en1gma: you have the kernel so you *have* the headers |
| 15:13.40 | Phated | ... You don't need nvidia for internet... do you? |
| 15:13.48 | dvs | en1gma: Oh? You're talking chipset arent you? |
| 15:13.50 | theguy | en1gma: aren' |
| 15:13.57 | cahoot | en1gma: nforcedeth? |
| 15:13.58 | en1gma | i have the "2.6.12.6" kernel i bult from when i was running slack |
| 15:14.00 | en1gma | i cant build on this distro yet |
| 15:14.02 | thingfish | he must have an onboard nic on a nforce motherboard. |
| 15:14.07 | theguy | en1gma: isn't there a forcedeath driver in the kernel for your network card |
| 15:14.10 | en1gma | nforce death dont work with this kernel |
| 15:14.14 | valdyn | forcedeth |
| 15:14.20 | en1gma | not this kernel |
| 15:14.27 | theguy | en1gma: roll your own kernel |
| 15:14.31 | Phated | en1gma: lspci, find out your chipset, there's a chance it's an intel or summat? |
| 15:14.34 | en1gma | i cant build |
| 15:14.43 | theguy | en1gma: don't you have gcc installed |
| 15:14.47 | en1gma | im in windows right now so i can chat |
| 15:14.53 | en1gma | i installed all gcc yesterday |
| 15:15.03 | valdyn | !cd contents |
| 15:15.03 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
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| 15:15.06 | en1gma | all gcc on deb cd1 |
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| 15:15.12 | en1gma | i think i might need new gcc for 2.6.12.6 |
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| 15:15.22 | valdyn | en1gma: no you dont |
| 15:15.30 | Phated | ... WTF, if you have the CDs, just use a fscking kernel-image? |
| 15:15.35 | en1gma | im not really sure what i need but i know i cant build anything |
| 15:15.39 | dvs | en1gma: Well, install libncurses5-dev like Phated said. |
| 15:15.42 | valdyn | !b-e en1gma |
| 15:15.44 | dpkg | en1gma: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 15:15.46 | en1gma | i installed all dev stuff on deb cd1 that i could find |
| 15:15.50 | syntaxx | is there somebody here who already tried bootsplash and nvidia working.. i cant go higher 1204x768 reso though |
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| 15:16.00 | en1gma | ahh maybe build essential |
| 15:16.05 | dvs | en1gma: bingo |
| 15:16.06 | en1gma | let me go check that |
| 15:16.13 | en1gma | thanks |
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| 15:16.24 | en1gma | brb and ill give some more info about X also |
| 15:16.36 | valdyn | en1gma: installing 'all dev stuff' and 'removing all gnome' stuff clearly indicates that you are going about this the wrong way... |
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| 15:17.00 | dvs | valdyn: He's gone but "he'll be back" |
| 15:17.02 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 15:17.30 | theguy | valdyn: he left |
| 15:17.31 | theguy | or she |
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| 15:17.53 | useruser | so... when firefox eats all my memory, my system grinds to a halt. I expect the kernel to kill firefox without a second thought. can i tell it to do so? |
| 15:18.17 | valdyn | useruser: nope |
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| 15:18.50 | useruser | valdyn: really? i was hoping there was some /proc switch that said "kill huge apps when you're short on memory" |
| 15:19.05 | Dasnipa` | xkill |
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| 15:19.12 | syntaxx | is there somebody here who already tried bootsplash and nvidia working on custom kernel.. i cant go higher 1204x768 reso though |
| 15:19.18 | useruser | Dasnipa`: not helpful when the system is completely unresponsive |
| 15:19.26 | valdyn | useruser: if you were short on memory then processes would be killed, but obviously you are not, your probably only short on ram |
| 15:19.39 | useruser | valdyn: so the solution is... disable swap? :P |
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| 15:19.51 | dvs | !smack useruser |
| 15:19.53 | valdyn | useruser: yea, or make it smaller |
| 15:20.05 | useruser | valdyn: seems pretty whacked to me |
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| 15:20.47 | cahoot | valdyn: no use increasing swappiness? |
| 15:21.04 | valdyn | cahoot: uh, itll just swap out more in that case.. |
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| 15:21.22 | LVS | I have complication with Intel 82801ER SATA RAID Controller, I can't install Debian Sarge on existing RAID0 volume. Anybody help me? |
| 15:21.28 | useruser | valdyn: by the way, i'm talking *major* unresponsiveness here - i can't log in from the console (times out), can't ssh in, can't run top, running ps may or may not work... |
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| 15:21.46 | dvs | LVS: Use the "linux26" option at boot |
| 15:21.55 | dvs | brother |
| 15:22.08 | useruser | valdyn: and usually xfce thinks that the swap and memory are both nearly full, so i am expectant that the kernel should start reaping stuff, but it never seems to |
| 15:22.16 | Varanger | I use Debian Sarge, but I want the lastest OpenOffice, I downloaded the binaries from openoffice.org... I can install it, but is there any way I can integrate with my Sarge box? |
| 15:22.35 | Dasnipa` | make install? |
| 15:22.38 | loxley | Varanger: install it make make install |
| 15:22.39 | valdyn | useruser: 2.6.8 has some vm bug doing something like this, i dont know details really, i dont know which kernel you re using |
| 15:22.54 | useruser | valdyn: 2.6.11-1-686 |
| 15:22.59 | Notor | asg: think the problem is that grub is booting from the wrong disk (i have debian installed on both) ... now how to i tell grub to boot from the other disk? |
| 15:23.03 | useruser | valdyn: upgrading to .12 now... |
| 15:23.09 | Varanger | loxley: make install? isn't it a binary? |
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| 15:23.22 | thingfish | Varanger: you'd really be better off waiting until it enters testing, then snag it from there (if you're running sarge). |
| 15:23.36 | LVS | dvs: I tried to use linux26 option, but debian see two separate SATA disks, not RAID Volume |
| 15:23.37 | loxley | Varanger: ohh :) sorry.. but i'd wait for it |
| 15:23.46 | thingfish | unless OO.o made .debs available. |
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| 15:24.04 | mikygee | hello |
| 15:24.09 | Varanger | thingfish: I use both sarge and sid in different boxes |
| 15:24.10 | valdyn | useruser: how much ram / swap do you have anyway? |
| 15:24.27 | mikygee | does someone uses pure FTP : I'd like to know what are directory aliases |
| 15:24.31 | Varanger | I think OO 2 is already at sid |
| 15:24.36 | useruser | valdyn: free says 378556/586364 |
| 15:24.43 | dvs | LVS: Ah, software (BIOS) RAID. You supposidly can install Debian and make a RAID at the same time but I haven't done it myself. |
| 15:24.44 | Varanger | but have to wait for sarge packages :( |
| 15:24.45 | thingfish | Varanger: I believe it has already entered sid. |
| 15:24.50 | Varanger | yes |
| 15:25.09 | goccia | i can't understand all this hype about OO : calc is a faulty spreadshhet while gnumeric is so wonderful |
| 15:25.16 | SimonRaven | as of yesterday on ppc |
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| 15:25.17 | dvs | Varanger: It will never get to Sarge officially. |
| 15:25.35 | goccia | as a debian user i'm better off using gnumeric |
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| 15:25.56 | useruser | valdyn: ok, i'm gonna reboot with this new kernel |
| 15:25.59 | useruser | valdyn: thanks for the advice... |
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| 15:26.15 | SimonRaven | meh, the colours are all wrong... |
| 15:26.29 | dvs | SimonRaven: get Martha Stewart |
| 15:26.37 | SimonRaven | bah |
| 15:26.37 | goccia | gnumeric opens huge excels spreads : calc hang and goes wrong |
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| 15:27.01 | woodland | hi is there .rm to .mp3 converter for linux |
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| 15:27.09 | SimonRaven | dvs: started using aterm until uxterm starts behaving again |
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| 15:27.31 | SimonRaven | dvs: and the bold white is like beige... |
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| 15:27.44 | dvs | SimonRaven: Yuck! |
| 15:27.52 | SimonRaven | indeed |
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| 15:28.34 | woodland | i want to convert .rm files into .mp3 files , how do i do that |
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| 15:28.59 | dvs | woodland: sox? |
| 15:29.07 | jim | woodland: there are probably some converters out there... booble? |
| 15:29.07 | LVS | Anybody knows how to install sarge on existing software RAID0 volume? |
| 15:29.13 | jim | err google? |
| 15:29.19 | nkuttler_ | woodland: pac maybe. but it's not a good idea. /msg dpkg rarewares |
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| 15:29.28 | Jon_ | I have Mozilla Firefox and Galeon browsers - But every time I point them to a download location, for example, I just tried to download OpenOffice.org - it crashes. I xkill it after a couple of minutes. Any suggestions? |
| 15:29.28 | woodland | dvs, what is sox |
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| 15:29.47 | giupy_ | hi all |
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| 15:29.54 | dvs | woodland: It translates audio files from one format to another. But I can't find .rm in the man page |
| 15:29.54 | jim | woodland: install it and see :) |
| 15:29.58 | darkbird | hi all |
| 15:30.00 | giupy_ | how can i say to exim4 to use a specified password to send emails ? |
| 15:30.00 | SimonRaven | bah, and unicode fonts don't work... *grr* |
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| 15:30.20 | Zugschlus | giupy_: you want to do SMTP AUTH as a client? |
| 15:30.53 | giupy_ | Zugschlus i think yes, for send email my email provider needs user name and pass |
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| 15:30.58 | valdyn | giupy_: read /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH |
| 15:31.01 | woodland | dvs, in that case i cant use sox, since i have .rm files |
| 15:31.09 | giupy_ | valdyn ok |
| 15:31.19 | cahoot | woodland: that's real media or what? |
| 15:31.28 | woodland | cahoot, ya |
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| 15:31.41 | nkuttler | woodland: look into mencoder as well |
| 15:31.45 | cahoot | woodland: realplayer->arecord>lame |
| 15:31.46 | darkbird | dows someone know how i get started the xfree86 for debian sarge the problem is -> startx error = Failed to open framebuffer device i use an geforce fx 5900 |
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| 15:31.53 | Peaker | where can I set my PATH or other environment variables safely so they are accessible to all apps? |
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| 15:32.03 | valdyn | !drxx darkbird |
| 15:32.04 | dpkg | darkbird: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 15:32.17 | valdyn | darkbird: and say NO to the framebuffer question |
| 15:32.34 | theguy | so it's probably a bad idea to use OO.o, and I'm better off using Gnumeric and Abiword |
| 15:32.38 | woodland | cahoot, what is that |
| 15:32.41 | thingfish | darkbird: don't use the framebuffer. |
| 15:32.48 | thingfish | darkbird: I have that same card. |
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| 15:33.36 | eax_ | Hi! Could anybody help me how can i change the macaddr of my ethernetcard during debian install? I tried this way: ifconfig ethX down; ifconfig ethX hw ether new_mac_addr up; but it doesn' t change the mac address. What is the problem? (the computer is a netfinity 5000 if it' s count). |
| 15:33.58 | cahoot | woodland: play it with realplayer, let arecord pick it up and do a wav of it - that wav piped to lame for making an mp3 |
| 15:34.06 | loxley | darkbird: remove all frambuffer stuff from kernel also |
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| 15:34.19 | jim | eax_: can't. your mac address is hard wired. |
| 15:34.36 | woodland | ok |
| 15:34.37 | alexey | eax: you can't change MAC addresses - they are burned into your NIC (=LAN card) |
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| 15:35.09 | RainbowW | has anybody ever seen something akin to a jbod for ide drives? |
| 15:35.12 | giupy_ | mm |
| 15:35.12 | darkbird | hm i have used the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to reconfigure without framebuffer but the same error hm.. some ideas? |
| 15:35.20 | giupy_ | mutt doesn't send email |
| 15:35.28 | valdyn | eax_: does your ethernet card support changing mac address? |
| 15:35.34 | woodland | i just mounted my ntfs here, but i can see dir called songs which i had created on win xp desktop, |
| 15:35.45 | woodland | i just mounted my ntfs here, but i can't see dir called songs which i had created on win xp desktop, |
| 15:36.22 | eax_ | jim: it' s not an integrated card, this is a realtek8029 card, and in an another computer i could change the mac address of this card. |
| 15:36.33 | RainbowW | woodland: ntfs support is experimental and doesn't always work. too bad, so sad, use an open FS. |
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| 15:36.44 | eax_ | valydn: yes. |
| 15:36.49 | loxley | darkbird: remove from kernel also.. i had that problem and solved it by removing the nvidia frambuffer stuff (if i remember it correct) :) |
| 15:36.54 | darkbird | thx i will test it with the kernel |
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| 15:38.04 | jim | eax_: why do you want to change the mac addr? |
| 15:38.09 | thingfish | ntfs write support might be experimental, but I don't think ntfs read support is. |
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| 15:38.31 | jim | thingfish: either is based on reverse engineering guesses |
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| 15:38.51 | giupy_ | i have used this guide http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lativyn/articles/debian-mutt/ but nothing appends, mutt can't send email, i can recive and read but .... |
| 15:38.53 | eax_ | jim: because i' m in a dormitory, and i can get internet for that machine only with a definitive mac address. |
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| 15:39.20 | RainbowW | eax_: you mean the IT department at the school you're at sucks. |
| 15:39.29 | jim | eax_: then use the other machine |
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| 15:39.44 | thingfish | or its nic. |
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| 15:39.57 | jim | the working mac address is on what kind of eth card? |
| 15:40.09 | thingfish | if it's removable. |
| 15:40.12 | jim | (just swap cards and be done with it) |
| 15:40.38 | RainbowW | turn the machine with the working card into a firewall and run NAT behind it. teach those dipshit IT assholes. |
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| 15:40.51 | carpe | hello someone who wants test gnomemeeting video with me? |
| 15:40.52 | jim | exactly |
| 15:41.11 | jkern | I have compiled a program in /usr/local/src/ and also a needed library there. Everything needed is installed properly in /usr/loca/. When I run the program it uses a lib in /usr/lib/ instead of /usr/local/lib. How do I get the program to use the /usr/local/bin/program to use /usr/local/lib/library? |
| 15:41.14 | RainbowW | charter cable used to pull that shit |
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| 15:41.40 | RainbowW | they tried to charge me with stealing cable service when i told them i had 38 boxes behind my nat firewall. |
| 15:41.45 | eax_ | RainbowW: yes, you' re right, but then do You have any idea how can i change the address? |
| 15:41.50 | pumpkin0 | is where anyway to check the voltage a speedstep-centrion is running at ? |
| 15:41.54 | jim | jkern: -L <lib dir> |
| 15:42.00 | valdyn | jkern: adjust your /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig. /usr/local/lib should probably be before /usr/lib |
| 15:42.15 | RainbowW | eax_: if you use the working card to create a firewall, you don't need to. |
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| 15:42.33 | RainbowW | eax_: the real solution is to go to a school that's worth a shit. |
| 15:42.33 | pel | the MAC-address can easily be changed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address). Make sure you're using an 'unused' one ;-) |
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| 15:43.21 | jkern | jim, the "-L" is an option for what process? |
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| 15:43.32 | jim | RainbowW: more and more are doing that... example, a nearby elementary school won't let any machine of unknown mac address outside of even their local building |
| 15:43.49 | jkern | valdyn, OK. I will try that. Thanks. |
| 15:43.51 | jim | jkern: gcc (please learn your tools) |
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| 15:44.35 | jim | right, you could do that too (but! you're changing -global- settings if you do that) |
| 15:44.37 | jkern | jim, I suppose I have to make this addition to a makefile. Is that right? |
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| 15:44.49 | rohal | i am unable to chroot to another partition it says.....chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied |
| 15:45.11 | RainbowW | jim: that's an elementary school. how many kids will be wandering on campus with a laptop? a college, however, is another issue. |
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| 15:45.31 | jim | rohal: is /bin/bash in your chroot |
| 15:45.35 | valdyn | rohal: chrooting to a partition makes no sense |
| 15:45.51 | rohal | valdyn: its another distro |
| 15:45.56 | RainbowW | jim: a better solution is to lock out MAC addresses that aren't authorized, and force the traffic to a web-based auth server. That's what they do at uta.edu, if you're on the wireless LAN. If you plug into a jack somewhere, you don't even need to do that. |
| 15:45.57 | Pasamio | good to see senseless actions still prevail |
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| 15:46.07 | jim | RainbowW: some of the issues are similar |
| 15:46.09 | valdyn | rohal: so? you still cannot chroot to partitions |
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| 15:46.28 | rohal | jim: no idea about that...i am just chrooting to a partition with some other distro |
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| 15:46.53 | rohal | valdyn: yea it says this chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied |
| 15:47.01 | jim | rohal: what kind of file system is the chroot on? |
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| 15:47.18 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.28 | Pasamio | rohal: say debian is hda1 and ubuntu is hda2, you've got to mount /dev/hda2 somewhere (e.g. /mnt/ubuntu) and then go chroot /mnt/ubuntu, i assume you've done atleast that? |
| 15:47.39 | rohal | jim: & i can chroot to debian from this ditro |
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| 15:48.02 | jkern | jim, Thanks. I have only enough know-how to type make in the righ place. :) I will try to learn the tools. |
| 15:48.03 | rohal | Pasamio: yea man it is mounted already... |
| 15:48.11 | jim | rohal: ok, so you have a few different chroots? |
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| 15:48.50 | rohal | jim: couldnt understand it?? |
| 15:48.51 | jim | jkern: if you program, you'll definitely be glad you did (at least learn the broad strokes) |
| 15:48.52 | possie | hi |
| 15:48.59 | Pasamio | rohal: ls /mnt/ubuntu/bin and ls /mnt/ubuntu/bin and see if you can find a shell in that list |
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| 15:49.08 | Pasamio | perhaps add "| grep sh" |
| 15:49.15 | jim | rohal: how many chroot dirs do you have? more than one? |
| 15:49.29 | possie | if i want to install perl DBI is it okee todo this via CPAN or should i do it via apt? to keep my pms database clean? |
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| 15:50.00 | jim | possie: well, to keep your perl and your debian package system clean |
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| 15:50.31 | rohal | jim: there is bash in that list......but what do u mean by how many chroot dirs??? |
| 15:51.19 | pumpkin0 | howto extract the config used for a kernel ? |
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| 15:52.10 | jim | rohal: I don't know how to explain to you without discovering what you know and don't know |
| 15:52.15 | thingfish | pumpkin0: one was is to get the .config inside the kernel's headers/ |
| 15:52.25 | SimonRaven | better, but the green is too dark |
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| 15:52.30 | thingfish | *way |
| 15:52.31 | SimonRaven | so's the red |
| 15:52.34 | jim | (that's what a private tutor does) |
| 15:52.51 | Pasamio | anyone know how to get joomla into the debian repository? or should i say, what the guidelines are? |
| 15:53.02 | SimonRaven | bold works now, yay |
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| 15:53.03 | rzr | hi |
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| 15:53.08 | rzr | i am about to report a bug |
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| 15:53.15 | jim | Pasamio: what license covers it? |
| 15:53.15 | rohal | jim: well the other disto is gentoo...:) |
| 15:53.28 | Pasamio | jim: gpl |
| 15:53.30 | rohal | jim: so atleast i have a basic knowledge |
| 15:53.38 | rzr | but please can some check : sudo apt-get install --reinstall x11-common # it fails here |
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| 15:53.45 | jkern | valdyn, ldconfig with changes to /etc/ld.so.conf did the trick. Thanks again. |
| 15:53.46 | jim | rohal: do you know what a dir is? |
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| 15:53.54 | jim | if so, explain |
| 15:53.55 | Pasamio | it used to be mambo, which did have some people but they weren't really up to date with things and it didn't get past experimental |
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| 15:54.35 | groton | where is located the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local ? |
| 15:54.36 | rohal | jim: this is funny.....please explain if it is anything else except a directory.... |
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| 15:54.56 | cheal | !tell groton about rc.local |
| 15:55.12 | rohal | jim: i couldnt understand what do u mena by chroot dir??? |
| 15:55.17 | valdyn | jkern: just came to me, you can also do this via 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/library.so ./runthisprogram |
| 15:55.19 | jim | is a chroot something that is contained in a dir? |
| 15:55.36 | groton | cheal, many thanks |
| 15:55.36 | jim | how does chroot work? |
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| 15:55.50 | rohal | jim: no idea...its just a sbin command..which i can only use as a super user.... |
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| 15:56.04 | jim | ok, that's the problem right there. |
| 15:56.08 | jim | learn how that works |
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| 15:56.09 | kandalf | uhm |
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| 15:56.29 | kandalf | I have got about 100 badblocks and badblocks is still running |
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| 15:56.33 | rohal | jim: so how should i go about it.... |
| 15:56.37 | jim | muh <fladnak> |
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| 15:56.46 | hacabrera071 | Guys... I trying to install Debian Sarge in dual boot mode in my HP Pavilion ZV5240Us and i getting "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!" when the computer restarts and tries to go to the 2nd step of the installation... Can you plese give me a hand?? :) |
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| 15:57.01 | jim | rohal: if chroot is a command, how can you find out how that command works? |
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| 15:57.19 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:57.55 | jim | rohal: where is the "root of some other distro" on the disk? |
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| 15:58.15 | jkern | valdyn, Thanks. I must work on a way to compile this in the program. I am using someone's src and just using make, etc. gcc -L <library> has been recommended. I have to figure out where in the "make" process I can pass the "-L" to gcc. |
| 15:58.17 | SimonRaven | aah, much better |
| 15:58.37 | rohal | jim: in that partition ofcource....../mnt/Gentoo |
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| 15:59.01 | jim | rohal: so is /mnt/Gentoo a dir? |
| 15:59.04 | tactless | Quick question: Does debian-non-us still exist? |
| 15:59.14 | rohal | jim: yea its a dir.... |
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| 15:59.24 | jim | and do you feed that dir to chroot? |
| 15:59.29 | citral | !topicsmite tactless |
| 15:59.30 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon tactless. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 15:59.31 | rohal | jim: yea i did |
| 15:59.44 | thingfish | but it's not in the topic anymore. |
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| 15:59.56 | tactless | sorry :) |
| 16:00.00 | citral | oh my bad |
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| 16:00.07 | rohal | jim: so why i got that error? |
| 16:00.13 | citral | tactless: there's no more non-us |
| 16:00.17 | jim | you can think of that dir as "your gentoo chroot" |
| 16:00.28 | rohal | jim: it has the rwx permissions |
| 16:00.32 | thingfish | tactless: no, it doesn't. |
| 16:00.42 | tactless | Thanks, thought so |
| 16:00.52 | tactless | So lame is not a part of Debian in any way anymore, right? |
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| 16:01.03 | pumpkin0 | thingfish: thx got it |
| 16:01.10 | jim | tactless: what license is it covered under? |
| 16:01.21 | thingfish | cool |
| 16:01.22 | Pasamio | lame isn't in |
| 16:01.34 | Pasamio | use ogg instead |
| 16:01.34 | Pasamio | :p |
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| 16:01.46 | cahoot | tactless: marillat has it IIRC |
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| 16:01.54 | hacabrera071 | #flood |
| 16:02.00 | hacabrera071 | Guys... I trying to install Debian Sarge in dual boot mode in my HP Pavilion ZV5240Us and i getting "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!" when the computer restarts and tries to go to the 2nd step of the installation... Can you plese give me a hand?? :) |
| 16:02.05 | tactless | I'd love to use ogg instead, but my MP3 player (sandisk) doesn't support it :( |
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| 16:02.27 | jim | rohal: do you understand what I'm telling you so far? (I'm giving you a way to think about it, so you could have more than one chroot dir and think about each one separately) |
| 16:02.27 | tactless | Actually, the reason I needed lame (and I ended up getting it from marillat) was to convert my oggs to mp3 for use on my player. |
| 16:02.31 | rohal | jim: what about this error now....chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied |
| 16:02.49 | jim | period |
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| 16:02.55 | rohal | jim: yea i am getting it |
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| 16:03.17 | jim | ok... so: you have a gentoo chroot, and it's at /mnt/Gentoo |
| 16:03.25 | jim | question: do you have other chroots? |
| 16:03.38 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:03.50 | jim | ok, what do you normally run |
| 16:03.59 | jim | what's the non-chroot dist? |
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| 16:04.30 | rohal | jim: i am in debian |
| 16:04.41 | darkness | Hi, i've doubled checked my keymap an still my keyboard is borked.Any ideas? |
| 16:04.47 | jim | ok, so debian is not one of your chroots. yes? |
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| 16:05.18 | rohal | jim: you can say it is also a chroot in a way |
| 16:05.23 | xzu | anybody has an opinion about grsecurity vs selinux vs rsbac that they would like to share? |
| 16:05.25 | jim | how so? |
| 16:05.30 | jim | do you chroot to get to it? |
| 16:05.37 | jim | or what? |
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| 16:05.47 | rohal | jim:i dont but i think i can do it... |
| 16:05.57 | rohal | chroot / |
| 16:06.08 | jim | oh, I see |
| 16:06.12 | useruser | how can i back up config files from a package prior to purging it? |
| 16:06.12 | xzu | scary taht grsec is just one guy.. but having nsa backing my security does not sound very tempting either... |
| 16:06.21 | jim | so it's not at all a chrot |
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| 16:06.36 | jim | even tho you could do that to run it |
| 16:06.44 | rohal | jim: yea |
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| 16:07.00 | jim | ok, try this: |
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| 16:07.12 | jim | ls -l /mnt/Gentoo/bin/bash |
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| 16:07.30 | jim | you should get one line. if you get only one line, show it here |
| 16:07.39 | rohal | -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 569724 Jul 30 20:46 /mnt/Gentoo/bin/bash |
| 16:07.39 | error403 | How do i switch off password-based SSH authentication? basically, i want people to ONLY be able to use public-key verification... |
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| 16:08.04 | jim | rohal: apparantly that's the thing it can't run |
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| 16:08.22 | rohal | jim: why so? |
| 16:08.32 | jim | as to -why-, I am not sure |
| 16:08.39 | sussudio | CodeBot: test |
| 16:08.41 | jim | that's the question |
| 16:09.02 | rohal | jim: so how should i make it run |
| 16:09.04 | jim | if you can find that out, it's going to be a big help to the answer |
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| 16:09.25 | jim | you do have to answer your own question: "why so?" |
| 16:09.25 | Tortel | whats the command to show your uid and gid? |
| 16:09.26 | sussudio | what the hell is CodeBot? |
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| 16:09.47 | code-bot | hi sussudio |
| 16:09.53 | sussudio | meh |
| 16:10.00 | rzr | tonsofpcs: id |
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| 16:10.05 | rzr | Tortel: id |
| 16:10.07 | code-bot | i saw you were asking what the bot is |
| 16:10.13 | sussudio | code-bot: what is CodeBot and what's it purpose? |
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| 16:10.28 | rohal | jim: the only thing thats remaining is w to others.....i cant grant any more permissions to it :) |
| 16:10.40 | code-bot | i'm working on a bot and having some troubles with my users managment |
| 16:10.58 | Tortel | ty rzr |
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| 16:11.13 | jim | rohal: yeah, I don't think that would help |
| 16:11.18 | jim | you could try this: |
| 16:11.23 | sussudio | code-bot: is it a passive or active bot |
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| 16:11.27 | jim | file /mnt/Gentoo/bin/bash |
| 16:11.35 | hacabrera071 | Can you help me guys? |
| 16:11.37 | jim | again, should be one line |
| 16:11.38 | code-bot | for now passive |
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| 16:11.47 | sussudio | code-bot: don't let it be active in here :-| |
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| 16:12.15 | code-bot | i'm just implementing some join part and users behavor |
| 16:12.16 | rohal | jim: /mnt/Gentoo/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 16:12.31 | jim | rohal: that looks good... |
| 16:12.34 | jim | howbout... |
| 16:13.05 | code-bot | no probs |
| 16:13.12 | jim | (now this will produce many lines... put those lines at http://rafb.net/paste) |
| 16:13.26 | jim | ldd /mnt/Gentoo/bin/bash |
| 16:13.29 | rohal | jim: ok sir |
| 16:13.36 | jim | (don't put those here please) |
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| 16:13.54 | ke6isf | hacabrera071: Not until you ask, we can't help you. |
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| 16:14.29 | ke6isf | hacabrera071: Wait... |
| 16:14.31 | hacabrera071 | ke6isf: Im trying to install Debian Sarge in dual boot mode in my HP Pavilion ZV5240Us and i getting "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!" when the computer restarts and tries to go to the 2nd step of the installation... Can you plese give me a hand?? :) |
| 16:14.44 | rohal | jim: it says this not a dynamic executable |
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| 16:15.08 | cavediver | Anyone know if there is impossible to run dmcrypt (encrypted disks) and nfs-kernel-server? I tried and the mounts are empty. It worked ok with nfs-user-server but I hate the limitations in it. I need help! :/ |
| 16:15.15 | jim | !ops 85.100.254.77 is annoyingly repeating joinbot |
| 16:15.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: 85.100.254.77 is annoyingly repeating joinbot |
| 16:15.37 | *** part/#debian aeiViweii (n=iqpeae@85.106.160.28) |
| 16:15.47 | ke6isf | hacabrera071: Is this a desktop, or a laptop? |
| 16:16.04 | hacabrera071 | ke6isf: Laptop |
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| 16:16.19 | jim | hmm, maybe the file command said that |
| 16:16.25 | hacabrera071 | ke6isf: Let me read the whole error to you... :) |
| 16:16.28 | abrotman | jim: right .. get him klined :) |
| 16:16.47 | H2OyJaBoN | is mplayer packages in sarge... or only in testing? |
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| 16:16.50 | jim | abrotman: that would be nice |
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| 16:17.24 | ke6isf | !tell hacabrera071 -about laptop |
| 16:17.48 | jim | H2OyJaBoN: neither, due to patent problems... but there is an outside repository called marillat |
| 16:17.57 | jim | I think mplayer is in there |
| 16:17.59 | rohal | jim:so are you getting the problem? |
| 16:18.42 | jim | rohal: well I don't quite understand it yet (file says it is dynamically linked but ldd says it is not dynamically linked) |
| 16:18.45 | nvz | well on the one hand I could buy a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 right now for $150, or save up and get the SL-C3100 for $650 though the SL3100 being like a mini laptop with 640x480 resolution and the 4gb hd and all that.. it seems like I could get a 500mhz 6gb laptop for less than half that.. heh I am so undecided :P |
| 16:18.54 | close_to_debian | I get this error while tring to send mail http://sial.org/pbot/13873 |
| 16:18.55 | H2OyJaBoN | jim ok thanks! =) |
| 16:18.59 | close_to_debian | Please check |
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| 16:19.21 | close_to_debian | its in exim |
| 16:19.22 | jim | H2OyJaBoN: maybe our dpkg bot has something about marillat |
| 16:19.39 | hacabrera071 | ke6isf: <6> Journalled Block Device driver loaded (Next row) pivot_root: No such file or directory (next row) /sbin/init:432: cannot open /dev/console: No such file (next row) "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 16:19.48 | Akirahedgehog | Hi I need some help running KDE |
| 16:19.49 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 16:19.49 | dpkg | it has been said that marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 16:19.59 | abrotman | if you need help running kde .. you've got major issues |
| 16:20.05 | Akirahedgehog | :P |
| 16:20.13 | en1gma | hey all sup? when i do my "make menuconfig" i get "you must install ncurses-dev" but when i try to 'apt-get install ncurses-dev' it dont install |
| 16:20.15 | Akirahedgehog | Im new to this |
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| 16:20.22 | abrotman | to debian or linux or all of it ? |
| 16:20.25 | en1gma | whats the name of that file and where is it located on cd1 |
| 16:20.34 | abrotman | libncurses-dev |
| 16:20.35 | abrotman | err |
| 16:20.38 | abrotman | libncurses5-dev |
| 16:20.39 | abrotman | !kp |
| 16:20.39 | dpkg | rumour has it, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 16:20.40 | ke6isf | en1gma: Why doesn't it install? |
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| 16:21.02 | Akirahedgehog | I ran the Minimal install CD and downloaded KDE and X Window |
| 16:21.09 | Akirahedgehog | Now im stuck |
| 16:21.25 | jim | Akirahedgehog: first get X to work |
| 16:21.25 | ke6isf | Akirahedgehog: Ah, so you need help installing, not running. |
| 16:21.31 | Akirahedgehog | Yeah |
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| 16:21.39 | ke6isf | Akirahedgehog: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 16:21.42 | abrotman | apt-get install kdm ? |
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| 16:21.51 | abrotman | Akirahedgehog: wait .. downloaded them how ? |
| 16:21.51 | Akirahedgehog | 2.0a I think |
| 16:21.58 | close_to_debian | Please check |
| 16:22.01 | close_to_debian | I get this error while tring to send mail http://sial.org/pbot/13873 |
| 16:22.02 | Akirahedgehog | Aptitude |
| 16:22.03 | en1gma | abrotman would i do "apt-get install kernel-package" if im building stuff in a differnt kernel version like /usr/src/linux-2.6.12.6 |
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| 16:22.09 | ke6isf | !tell close_to_debian -about repeat |
| 16:22.10 | darkness | I could do with getting my keyboard working as an English one. |
| 16:22.10 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about kp |
| 16:22.26 | abrotman | Akirahedgehog: aptitude install kde x-window-system kdm |
| 16:22.31 | faif | can you please tell me the channel which can I discuss about the free java implementation? |
| 16:22.33 | Akirahedgehog | Ok |
| 16:22.38 | ke6isf | hacabrera071: What part of installation are you on, and what version of Debian are you running? |
| 16:22.51 | abrotman | faif: which free java implementation ? |
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| 16:23.12 | jim | en1gma: you can use it... and it's a good idea because it takes what is compiled and packages it for you so you can install and remove it at will |
| 16:23.13 | SpamHog | How do I change CLI & X keyboard language on an installed system? I RTFMs & got no wiser... |
| 16:23.17 | faif | about the GNU classpath, the gcj, gij, etc |
| 16:23.19 | stew | faif: #debian-java #sablevm |
| 16:23.25 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 16:23.25 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 16:23.28 | faif | thanks |
| 16:23.31 | abrotman | faif: ask in #gnu .. they might know |
| 16:23.36 | hacabrera071 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.48 | stew | faif: #kaffe |
| 16:23.54 | en1gma | abrotman yes i understand what you sent me. but if im building out of a diff kernel tree wouldnt i just use its modules and headers and therefore not need "build-essential and kernel-package" |
| 16:23.58 | abrotman | no #gcj ? |
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| 16:24.06 | SpamHog | aaahhh!!! I need to make friends with the bot - thanks! |
| 16:24.12 | abrotman | en1gma: you're using ? |
| 16:24.13 | abrotman | doing? |
| 16:24.17 | ke6isf | hacabrera071: What mode did you use for your install when you first started? Did you read the factoid about laptop I had dpkg send you? |
| 16:24.20 | RichiH | jim: i klined it |
| 16:24.27 | abrotman | RichiH: kill them all! |
| 16:24.31 | RichiH | heh |
| 16:24.32 | jim | RichiH: why thank you sir :) |
| 16:24.44 | ke6isf | RichiH: KILL! KILL! KILL! |
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| 16:24.50 | en1gma | i dloaded linux-2.6.12.6.bz2 and untared it to /usr/src |
| 16:24.53 | abrotman | !alicekill thedamnbots |
| 16:24.53 | jim | hmm, yeah, it's a lot quieter |
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| 16:25.12 | RichiH | brb |
| 16:25.16 | RichiH | or, rather, bbl |
| 16:25.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 16:25.35 | stew | en1gma: what version of debian are you running? |
| 16:25.47 | hacabrera071 | ke6isf: I tried with the PCMCIA sidabling option and without it |
| 16:25.49 | tarzeau | takatumi, RichiH, abrotman: bored? |
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| 16:26.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm about to go get food .. but later i will be :) |
| 16:26.09 | en1gma | would i still need "kernel-package build-essential" if im working in /usr/src/linux-2.6.12.6 |
| 16:26.21 | stew | en1gma: yes |
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| 16:26.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: good idea |
| 16:26.29 | en1gma | im running sarge with the linux 2.6.8 |
| 16:26.33 | jim | en1gma: you certainly have the option of using kernel-package... you -need- build-essential (if you dont' have the depends of that, you wouldn't be able to compile it because you would not have a compiler) |
| 16:26.47 | en1gma | but switched to my kernel 2.6.12.6 (since it was already made from before sarge install) |
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| 16:27.17 | en1gma | kernel-package isnt actually 2.6.8 headers? |
| 16:27.21 | jim | en1gma: is that all you want to do? use an already-built kernel? |
| 16:27.45 | en1gma | nope i want to modify my kernel that i have and i want to install ati and nvidia drivers |
| 16:27.45 | ke6isf | hacabrera071: Check out the details in the laptop factoid that dpkg sent you in privmsg. If you didn't get it, then /msg dpkg laptop. |
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| 16:27.50 | ke6isf | OK, idle time. |
| 16:27.53 | jim | en1gma: you run the kernel package thing from inside a kernel source dir, so the headers it uses are right there |
| 16:28.01 | stew | can sarge's gcc even compile 2.6.12? |
| 16:28.05 | en1gma | ahhh okie |
| 16:28.07 | en1gma | thank-you |
| 16:28.09 | jim | good question |
| 16:28.13 | thingfish | stew: yes. |
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| 16:28.19 | en1gma | bbiab |
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| 16:28.23 | jim | en1gma: but... |
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| 16:28.36 | en1gma | someday i will have net working in debian so i wont have to reboot everytime i want to do something :) |
| 16:28.41 | en1gma | bbiab |
| 16:29.07 | xnet | is there any known memory leek issues with kde 3.3.4? |
| 16:29.12 | abrotman | #kde ? |
| 16:29.15 | abrotman | and probably |
| 16:29.16 | xnet | dig |
| 16:29.16 | jim | perhaps we could have helped with that :P |
| 16:29.20 | abrotman | and it's a leak |
| 16:29.21 | abrotman | not leek |
| 16:29.24 | xnet | dig |
| 16:29.26 | abrotman | leek is food .. leak is pee |
| 16:29.32 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:29.34 | jim | xnet: leet leek sleep peep |
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| 16:30.12 | jim | xnet: the bug tracking system might have something about that (bugs.debian.org) |
| 16:30.12 | xnet | is there a way to hide icons on only one of the desktops? |
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| 16:30.22 | xnet | thanks jim |
| 16:30.34 | abrotman | xnet: ask #debian-kde or #kde |
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| 16:30.54 | jim | reek beep feed meet eek! |
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| 16:31.25 | Akirahedgehog | Ok its says KDE and X-Window could not be found O_O |
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| 16:31.35 | Akirahedgehog | Something along those lines |
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| 16:31.38 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 16:31.44 | xnet | abrotman: because you don't know or because its the wrong place to ask? |
| 16:31.57 | abrotman | xnet: because those are *better* places to ask :) |
| 16:32.10 | xnet | dig it |
| 16:32.12 | abrotman | it's not wrong here . i don't know .. but they should know more than the general population here |
| 16:32.17 | abrotman | hopfeully ... |
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| 16:32.47 | sussudio | in soviet russia, apple laptops stare at you |
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| 16:32.51 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:32.54 | nvz | :) |
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| 16:33.05 | Eliteforce | why does bash say persmission denied if i try to do that: sudo uname -a > /etc/motd |
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| 16:33.21 | sussudio | Eliteforce: ... |
| 16:33.23 | en1gma | when i do "apt-get install libncurses5-dev" it says it cant find it |
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| 16:33.30 | Eliteforce | sussudio: what? :D |
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| 16:33.35 | dusk | what truetype font server should I get? (im running x.org) |
| 16:33.36 | en1gma | is it on cd2 or something |
| 16:33.44 | sussudio | Eliteforce: maybe it's because you don't have file permissions to do that? |
| 16:33.50 | nvz | I just want ideally a cheap, reliable, portable debian workstation. I want the most portability, and reliability for the least money :P don't we all? |
| 16:33.52 | jim | Eliteforce: who are you running the " ... > /etc/motd" part as? |
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| 16:34.09 | Eliteforce | jim: oh |
| 16:34.36 | jim | a question causes enlightenment! |
| 16:34.37 | Eliteforce | jim: how has the line look like to make it work? |
| 16:34.44 | jim | very cool :) |
| 16:34.48 | sussudio | !cluebie |
| 16:34.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, cluebie is a person who doesn't think he needs to be educated, one who knows not and knows not that he knows not |
| 16:34.52 | thingfish | that's so zen... |
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| 16:35.14 | jim | sozen? |
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| 16:35.37 | en1gma | when i do "apt-get install libncurses5-dev" it says it cant find it |
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| 16:35.42 | thingfish | the "question causes enlightenment" statement. |
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| 16:35.45 | jim | Eliteforce: why not su -, then do it, then exit |
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| 16:35.47 | thingfish | it's kind of zen. |
| 16:35.53 | sussudio | why hasn't someone on this network just banned turkey? |
| 16:36.08 | jim | thingfish: it works only 10% of the time |
| 16:36.13 | beardy | en1gma: What needs it? I think it may be removed from the repository. |
| 16:36.20 | sussudio | i have the fucking nospambot script loaded with 60 SECONDS delay and i'm still seeing the fuckers |
| 16:36.20 | beardy | may have been |
| 16:36.27 | jim | sussudio: too close to thanksgiving? |
| 16:36.34 | jim | must have turkeys! |
| 16:36.39 | nvz | hehe |
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| 16:36.48 | en1gma | when i do make menuconfig it says i need to isntall ncurses-dev |
| 16:36.49 | w3rdn4 | I am having a bit of trouble getting a signal with tvtime getting a signal, I was wondering what might I need instead of bt8xxx |
| 16:36.55 | zinx | sussudio: the opers on this network don't give a shit about spam |
| 16:36.58 | thingfish | it's always a laugh riot here in #debian :) |
| 16:37.07 | sussudio | zinx: oh joy. what _do_ they give a shit about? |
| 16:37.15 | en1gma | beardy i think i know you |
| 16:37.21 | en1gma | abcdi? |
| 16:37.22 | zinx | sussudio: i haven't seen anything yet |
| 16:37.22 | thingfish | beer probably. |
| 16:37.26 | jim | thingfish: and how could you even do that without turkeys??! |
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| 16:37.34 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:37.44 | zinx | it's sad when your network gets more spam than efnet |
| 16:37.45 | dusk | what truetype font server should I install for xorg? |
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| 16:38.06 | at0m|c | dusk, there's only one fontserver, xfs |
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| 16:38.17 | Drakh | What this xorg I keep hearing about? Is it a new type of x windows |
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| 16:38.22 | zinx | sussudio: because they aren't being k-lined :) |
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| 16:38.30 | jim | sussudio: yaknow, that is an interesting question |
| 16:38.33 | nvz | is most of Debian ported to PPC ? |
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| 16:38.56 | sussudio | fioKMIoj: DIE |
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| 16:39.15 | hacabrera071 | ke6isf: I already take a look at the factoid that you sent me... everything seems to be ok with my laptop... |
| 16:39.17 | beardy | en1gma: libncurses-dev is a virtual package that depends on libncurses5-dev, so I was wrong, it exists. Install libncurses-dev. |
| 16:39.35 | Drakh | wtf is xorg |
| 16:39.40 | beardy | en1gma: Know me? abcdi? |
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| 16:39.43 | at0m|c | #xorg |
| 16:39.45 | Drakh | raah |
| 16:39.47 | Drakh | hmm |
| 16:39.49 | Ronin | Drakh: #xorg or google |
| 16:39.52 | jim | xorg is borg. |
| 16:39.52 | en1gma | beardy ok thanks |
| 16:39.59 | nvz | I wonder how PPC compares to x86 in running linux, I've never ran one so I dont know if buying a G3 would compare to running x86 wise |
| 16:40.09 | jim | resistance is futile. |
| 16:40.14 | nvz | I may just buy one of these older G3 iBooks |
| 16:40.15 | sussudio | holy crap. leopards. |
| 16:40.21 | jim | 7 of 9 will assimilate you. |
| 16:40.23 | beardy | nvz: No textmode. |
| 16:40.26 | en1gma | beardy i think i tried that before and also got same result |
| 16:40.29 | en1gma | but not 100% sure |
| 16:40.32 | nvz | beardy: what? |
| 16:40.34 | jim | and I guarantee you you'll like it... |
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| 16:40.35 | beardy | en1gma: Are you running sarge? |
| 16:40.38 | nvz | beardy: how? |
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| 16:40.47 | beardy | nvz: No textmode, only framebuffer. |
| 16:40.49 | Drakh | what the |
| 16:40.52 | hacabrera071 | ke6isf: I was looking on Google and I found that this error is related to SATA HDDs Problem... |
| 16:40.57 | en1gma | yes |
| 16:40.58 | nvz | beardy: as long as it works |
| 16:40.58 | beardy | nvz: On ppc. |
| 16:40.59 | Drakh | why are you guys not calling it X windows |
| 16:41.04 | Drakh | is that not leet anymore |
| 16:41.06 | zinx | because it's not X windows |
| 16:41.09 | Drakh | :( |
| 16:41.12 | nkuttler | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.15 | thingfish | hehe if all borg looked like 7 of 9, entire races would be begging to get assimilated. |
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| 16:41.22 | jim | !x windows |
| 16:41.23 | dpkg | It's X dammit! A) The X Window System. B) X |
| 16:41.23 | beardy | It never has been X Windows. X Window System is the name. |
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| 16:41.40 | en1gma | beardy yes i running sarge |
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| 16:41.47 | Drakh | I am sensitive |
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| 16:41.50 | nvz | apple laptops look tougher. x86 ones dont last long with me |
| 16:41.51 | Drakh | someone hold me |
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| 16:41.55 | en1gma | dont cry |
| 16:41.56 | Drakh | !hold me |
| 16:42.00 | thingfish | poor Drakh. |
| 16:42.01 | Drakh | lol |
| 16:42.01 | jim | don't fry |
| 16:42.09 | jim | err |
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| 16:42.12 | jim | cry |
| 16:42.13 | Drakh | I... didn't think that would work |
| 16:42.28 | nvz | these "clamshell" ibooks are the cheapest but they are fugly. I wouldnt want one of those |
| 16:42.28 | Drakh | it is ok, I think I feel better now |
| 16:42.43 | beardy | en1gma: And what is apt-get acutally saying when you try to install? Please give the exact command you run, and paste the errors in the pastebin, if longer than one line. |
| 16:43.03 | beardy | !paste |
| 16:43.03 | dpkg | hmm... paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 16:43.13 | en1gma | i cant paste it in paste bin cause i have no net connection when im in linux |
| 16:43.19 | en1gma | it says "couldnt find file" |
| 16:43.23 | en1gma | or very similar |
| 16:43.25 | rudenstam | I just booted up a computer I got.. installed debian 3.1 with 2.4 kernel.. checked dmesg and it finds 7 scsi disks.. the first 4 is at 160 MB/s, the last 3 is at 40 MB/s... how can I check if it's the channel their on or the actual disk that can't handle more.. |
| 16:43.39 | rudenstam | I got lines looking like: |
| 16:43.40 | rudenstam | Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| 16:43.53 | beardy | en1gma: Sounds strange, do: |
| 16:43.54 | jim | en1gma: could you describe your problem with your net card in debian? what kind of net card? |
| 16:43.56 | beardy | !debian mantra |
| 16:43.56 | dpkg | from memory, debian mantra is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" |
| 16:43.57 | en1gma | im gonna go try that 'apt-get install libncurses-dev' but im 75% sure i tried that before |
| 16:43.59 | beardy | en1gma: ^^ |
| 16:44.03 | Drakh | !hold beardy |
| 16:44.04 | rudenstam | and all disks are on scsi0, channel 0... is it then the hd's that can't handle faster transfer rates ? |
| 16:44.13 | Drakh | bot fondle :s |
| 16:44.22 | beardy | Drakh: ? |
| 16:44.22 | en1gma | its not actually my net card is on onboard netcard on an nforce2 chipset |
| 16:44.33 | jim | !fondle fondue |
| 16:44.38 | en1gma | but i just need its interface i dont actually use the nic |
| 16:44.43 | Drakh | !fondle me |
| 16:44.46 | en1gma | i use usb to pda as a modem |
| 16:44.47 | Drakh | !touch me |
| 16:44.48 | dpkg | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 16:44.51 | beardy | en1gma: Oh, no net you said.. |
| 16:44.52 | Drakh | lol |
| 16:44.57 | en1gma | correct |
| 16:44.58 | en1gma | :) |
| 16:45.20 | en1gma | but if i can get this ncurses-dev working i would be able to build stuff |
| 16:45.20 | jim | en1gma: so the challenge is to support the nforce chipset |
| 16:45.27 | beardy | en1gma: Well, without the exact error I donät think I have any more suggestions. |
| 16:45.36 | en1gma | the challenge is to get this building working |
| 16:45.47 | jim | my building works! |
| 16:45.48 | beardy | en1gma: Now, why do you think you know me? |
| 16:45.56 | jim | I'm in it and I can even close the door! |
| 16:46.03 | Drakh | maybe you two were very close in another life |
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| 16:46.14 | Drakh | maybe when he closes his eyes all he can see is you |
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| 16:46.22 | en1gma | i did a "base install" then did apt-get install mc gpm build-essential bzip2 kernel-package |
| 16:46.31 | jim | Drakh: how romantical :P |
| 16:46.31 | thingfish | Drakh: you are a charmer, you are. |
| 16:46.37 | en1gma | beardy do you goto abcdi? |
| 16:46.37 | w3rdn4 | Any idea on how to detect if my PCI tv Card is installed? |
| 16:46.41 | Drakh | hahah |
| 16:46.43 | en1gma | i know you from somewhere |
| 16:46.48 | tarzeau | w3rdn4: lspci ? |
| 16:46.50 | beardy | en1gma: I don't know what that is.. |
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| 16:47.04 | xerophyte | Could somebody help me on this i have domain www.mactsa.com when i do dig mactsa.com it works, but when i do dig www.mactsa.com it does not work, but when i do dig www.mactsa.com @ns1.lncare.com its works.. so the dns server is okay but why can not internet resolve the www.mactsa.com could somebody help on this issue |
| 16:47.12 | Drakh | yess soon I will romance all the debian users in the world and I will gain titanic amounts of knowledge!!!! |
| 16:47.16 | en1gma | man i dont come here that often is past and that nic is unique |
| 16:47.19 | beardy | !date Drakh |
| 16:47.21 | Drakh | err I shouldn't have monologued, now you all know :/ |
| 16:47.27 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:47.38 | w3rdn4 | how do I know which one the tv card is? One of my friends randomly gave me the card |
| 16:47.39 | Drakh | !date dpkg |
| 16:47.50 | en1gma | ok i gonna go try 'apt-get install libncurses-dev but i think it says "couldnt find package" |
| 16:47.51 | thingfish | Drakh: we will observe you closely for courtship style. |
| 16:48.10 | beardy | en1gma: It exists, so something is wrong. |
| 16:48.19 | Drakh | I will put my debian boxes on the grooms side :D |
| 16:48.24 | Drakh | people are over rated |
| 16:48.28 | at0m|c | w3rdn4, lspci |
| 16:48.31 | thingfish | dondelelcaro will perform the ceremony when that special debian user says, "Yes". |
| 16:48.35 | en1gma | anyone got any other command for me to try to install "ncurses-dev" while i am there |
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| 16:48.58 | nkuttler | en1gma: apt-cache search ncurses dev |
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| 16:49.12 | jim | en1gma: apt-get install libncurses-dev |
| 16:49.16 | thingfish | en1gma: I think (I know) Phated and others told you apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 16:49.18 | beardy | en1gma: Not that it should do any different, but try 'aptitude install ncurses-dev' instead. |
| 16:49.24 | jim | that should work if any apt-get works |
| 16:49.28 | goccia | en1gma: libncurses5-dev |
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| 16:49.38 | w3rdn4 | ok I found the card and it seems to be install but for some reason I cannot get a signal |
| 16:49.40 | w3rdn4 | hmmmm |
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| 16:50.20 | en1gma | goccia tried that one but it "couldnt find package" |
| 16:50.22 | en1gma | or file |
| 16:50.30 | jim | also try.... apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 16:50.32 | thingfish | try again, maybe you misspelled it. |
| 16:50.36 | en1gma | :P |
| 16:50.39 | at0m|c | w3rdn4, u googled 'debian [cardname]' this fast? |
| 16:50.40 | thingfish | well? |
| 16:50.42 | goccia | en1gma: Candidate: 5.4-4 in here (sarge) |
| 16:50.43 | en1gma | thats the one i tried |
| 16:50.49 | en1gma | i tried it a few times |
| 16:50.54 | jim | ugugled? |
| 16:51.01 | en1gma | yep sarge but i only have cd1 maybe its on cd2 |
| 16:51.02 | beardy | !u |
| 16:51.02 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:51.11 | thingfish | I just don't understand how people get themselves into such predicaments. |
| 16:51.15 | jim | uguru |
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| 16:51.28 | nvz | I just get the idea since PPC is more controlled by Apple alone there is less random hardware and is likely a better supported system. those x86 laptops always have shitloads of quirks and crappy hardware in them |
| 16:51.29 | thingfish | my Debian runs just as good as life on Leave It To Beaver. |
| 16:51.32 | en1gma | gonna go try these and ill get exact error message this time |
| 16:51.38 | en1gma | bbiab |
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| 16:51.48 | jim | en1gma: one sec |
| 16:51.49 | beardy | en1gma: Why didn't you say that, it's a very important piece of information.. |
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| 16:52.18 | goccia | en1gma: should be a single deb : you could get it by browser |
| 16:52.27 | beardy | en1gma: Then it is on another cd. Go fetch. |
| 16:52.33 | jim | en1gma: gimme a sec... |
| 16:52.40 | jim | dponj't go away yet |
| 16:53.29 | jim | http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libncurses5-dev |
| 16:53.45 | thingfish | yay! |
| 16:53.45 | jim | go there now, and download the .deb |
| 16:54.19 | jim | then install it from where you put it after you reboot (you'll somehow have to mount the (what, windows maybe?) partition you put it on |
| 16:54.44 | jim | dpkg --help to find out how to directly install a .deb |
| 16:55.42 | jim | he doesn't need a whole damn cd when he only needs one package that's smaller than a mb |
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| 16:57.02 | CruX | ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:196:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-3255-1130085519-641838 |
| 16:57.06 | CruX | how can i tell alsa to create new socket ? |
| 16:57.07 | cappiz | someone here good with danted? |
| 16:57.09 | CruX | without reboot |
| 16:57.13 | beardy | !ask |
| 16:57.13 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:57.41 | jim | dan? ted? |
| 16:58.09 | heatsink | Can I install amd64 kernel and libs alongside i386 kernel and libs? Is there a guide or faq on this? |
| 16:58.42 | jim | heatsink: start with just the kernel, see if that much works |
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| 16:58.50 | omry | is it possible to change default terminal resultion to more than 80x25? |
| 16:58.50 | beardy | heatsink: Just install the kernel-image? |
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| 16:59.03 | jim | it's possible you might have to reinstall if you want a different subarch |
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| 16:59.22 | w3rdn4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.22 | w3rdn4 | bash: /sbin/lspci: No such file or directory |
| 16:59.23 | beardy | cms_: Yes, at boot time. vga=ask in your lilo.conf at least, not sure about grub. |
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| 16:59.26 | w3rdn4 | why is this happening? |
| 16:59.31 | youssef | Hello. I cannot launch startx |
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| 16:59.43 | beardy | omry: Yes, at boot time. vga=ask in your lilo.conf at least, not sure about grub. |
| 16:59.44 | nkuttler | omry: use vga=ask as boot parameter |
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| 16:59.53 | jim | youssef: you need a bigger rocket! |
| 16:59.55 | youssef | fatal server error : failed to initialize core devices |
| 17:00.05 | youssef | jim lol |
| 17:00.05 | dusk | got a noob question, whats the command to restart x? |
| 17:00.24 | heatsink | beardy: I'll need a working compiler setup also, since I have a device that requires a custom kernel build |
| 17:00.25 | omry | beardy, nkuttler, ask? (should I replace that with anything?) |
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| 17:00.43 | w3rdn4 | My TV tunner is a Askey CPH05X/06X |
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| 17:00.55 | heatsink | beardy: Maybe I can install a vanilla kernel first |
| 17:00.56 | beardy | dusk: '/etc/init.d/ ?dm restart' where ? is x, k, g or other, Or Ctrl-Alt-Backspace when you're in X. |
| 17:00.58 | nkuttler | omry: not necessarily. it's documented in the kernel source somewhere (framebuffer) |
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| 17:01.18 | youssef | can someone help me ? |
| 17:01.39 | jim | if it's not a bigger rocket, I dunno! |
| 17:01.41 | beardy | omry: He hasn't said he ran framebuffer, has he? |
| 17:01.49 | beardy | god damn it.. |
| 17:01.56 | beardy | nkuttler: that was for you |
| 17:02.07 | heatsink | youssef: there should be a file with a name starting with "/var/log/X" |
| 17:02.12 | w3rdn4 | does debian support the Askey CPH05X/06X |
| 17:02.34 | jim | beardy: in grub you can put params on the kernel line |
| 17:02.45 | beardy | jim: Ok. |
| 17:03.08 | *** part/#debian Fro0[-_-]0ozeN (n=klj@201.4.28.31) |
| 17:03.18 | jim | like kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.9 vga=ask |
| 17:03.19 | beardy | omry: vga=ask let's you choose which mode you want on boot. It will prompt you. |
| 17:03.29 | heatsink | youssef: That file contains log information, please paste it. You can ask dpkg about paste. |
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| 17:03.47 | nkuttler | beardy: last time i checked debian kernels had that compiled in. what's your point? |
| 17:03.51 | w3rdn4 | how do you find out the tuner type with out the manual? |
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| 17:04.25 | travo | hello all |
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| 17:04.30 | travo | letme just cut to the chase here |
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| 17:04.35 | jim | nkuttler: what, vga=ask? no, otherwise the boot would delay 30 secs every boot |
| 17:04.36 | beardy | nkuttler: No point. Last time I checked they did too, but I'm not sure if it's default to use it on sarge, on woody it was. |
| 17:04.43 | omry | beardy, thanks. |
| 17:04.50 | travo | is there a way to have more than the default four cursor themes on gnome? |
| 17:04.52 | nkuttler | jim: framebuffer |
| 17:04.59 | travo | i am reading linux desktop hacks now |
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| 17:05.04 | jim | oh, ok |
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| 17:06.09 | beardy | jim: Just hit space, and there will be no delay. |
| 17:06.21 | jim | I don't like that framebuffer thing much... |
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| 17:06.26 | ulitz | trying to format a 6 gb partition with fat32.. get an error of too few blocks so I tried fat16.. doesn't work either |
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| 17:07.05 | jim | fat32?? why? |
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| 17:07.50 | ulitz | jim: so I can write and read in both xp and debian |
| 17:08.16 | beardy | ulitz: Forget fat16 if it's not for DOS. |
| 17:08.27 | beardy | ulitz: Create it in windows then. |
| 17:08.31 | jim | fat16 is limited size |
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| 17:08.39 | jim | well they all are |
| 17:08.50 | ulitz | ok.. but there are 3 different paritions.. so if I use windows it will format the one I pick right? |
| 17:08.50 | beardy | fat16 more than fat32 though :) |
| 17:08.58 | jim | but fat16's limit is very small (modernly speaking) |
| 17:09.04 | beardy | yeah, 2GB. |
| 17:09.07 | dannythm | can anyone tell me what is the source to get the xorg from the apt-get? |
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| 17:09.27 | beardy | !get xorg |
| 17:09.27 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 17:09.27 | xfan | fat16's limit = 2GB or 500 MB ? |
| 17:09.34 | jlj_ | is there any way to pass a gcc option to a specific module when compiling a kernel? |
| 17:09.36 | beardy | xfan: Like I said. |
| 17:09.52 | dannythm | I need to migrate from xfree to xorg anyone can help me with that? |
| 17:09.56 | ulitz | thanks |
| 17:09.58 | nemo_ | Can someone help me with "GRUB"? |
| 17:10.04 | beardy | dannythm: need? |
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| 17:10.10 | heatsink | nemo_: "yes" |
| 17:10.18 | xfan | and how much is the fat16 limit for a single file ? |
| 17:10.24 | beardy | dannythm: See what dpkg said a few lines above. |
| 17:10.26 | jim | hmm, for some reason I'm hungry now... gotta go find some grub... |
| 17:10.40 | dannythm | beardy: yes, I cannot install ATI drivers, so I want to use xorg |
| 17:10.50 | nemo_ | heatsink: I am trying to dual boot and It detects my XP but wont let me boot into it |
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| 17:11.41 | heatsink | nemo_: People have had problems with booting winXP from GRUB, I don't know how to fix. |
| 17:12.17 | heatsink | nemo_: I'd recommend starting linux from windows's bootloader, if you can. |
| 17:12.18 | ulitz | nemo_: is xp not on the 1st hard drive? |
| 17:12.44 | goccia | grunb boot that pig even if loaded ina handy floppy |
| 17:12.46 | dannythm | bready: i readed what dpkg said, but it don't help me changing my xfree to xorg |
| 17:12.55 | goccia | grub rocks :) |
| 17:13.00 | nemo_ | ulitz: linux is on the first drive |
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| 17:13.05 | ulitz | xp on second? |
| 17:13.13 | nemo_ | yep |
| 17:13.15 | en1gma | no luck with that ncurses problem still |
| 17:13.27 | en1gma | i took some pics i posted on my isp ftp |
| 17:13.36 | ulitz | nemo_: just fixed it like an hour ago on mine.. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-November/msg05202.html |
| 17:13.36 | jim | en1gma: oh, cool |
| 17:13.37 | dnagenie | anyone have an explanation as to why so many people like aptitude, it's just overhauled dselect right? |
| 17:13.40 | jim | where? |
| 17:13.58 | en1gma | 1 sec and ill post the pics link |
| 17:14.09 | beardy | xfan: http://ln-s.net/8Sl |
| 17:14.10 | nemo_ | ok, im going to give it a look thanks |
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| 17:14.25 | asuffield | dnagenie: explanation #1: not many people like aptitude, it's just that the few who do like to make a lot of noise about it |
| 17:14.28 | immortall | hello all |
| 17:14.28 | goccia | nemo_: best thing is using grub shell tabbing till you get the (pseudo) wincozz kernel :) |
| 17:14.51 | dnagenie | aah so it's still cool to apt-get then |
| 17:14.59 | dannythm | can anyone help me migrate in sarge from xfree to xorg? |
| 17:15.06 | nemo_ | groccia: I am not familiar with shell tabbing? |
| 17:15.07 | beardy | dnagenie: Yes, you're so 1337 |
| 17:15.12 | dnagenie | lol |
| 17:15.37 | faif | goodbye everyone |
| 17:15.37 | beardy | dnagenie: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 17:15.39 | en1gma | damn it taking forever to post the pics on my ftp |
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| 17:15.44 | en1gma | well just have to wait a sec |
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| 17:15.56 | dnagenie | i got my nose pusshed in crapulance cause i apt-got someting and had a question about it 2 am today |
| 17:15.57 | jim | dnagenie: dselect is -horrible-... aptitude is supposed to be more modern, not revamped, but rebuilt from scratch... comparing aptitude to apt-get, it uses a different algorithm to calculate deps |
| 17:16.00 | dnagenie | thanks beardy |
| 17:16.11 | dnagenie | aah |
| 17:16.18 | dnagenie | so etter deeps then cool |
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| 17:16.59 | jim | yeah, it's supposed to be better than apt-get (which was originally a simple test of the apt libs) |
| 17:17.06 | Cyphur | Hey people |
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| 17:17.14 | dannythm | can anyone help me change my sarge from xfree to xorg? |
| 17:17.30 | Cyphur | how is everyone? |
| 17:17.34 | beardy | dannythm: Read what you have been told. |
| 17:17.36 | winicius | hello. |
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| 17:17.45 | en1gma | http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/o/howet/ |
| 17:17.49 | nemo_ | ulitz: ok how do I go edit the file? |
| 17:17.53 | beardy | !tell dannythm -about xorg sarge |
| 17:17.54 | Cyphur | Anyone here from UK? |
| 17:17.57 | en1gma | the last to pics are stil luploading |
| 17:18.06 | en1gma | beardy take a look at the pics |
| 17:18.06 | Cyphur | just moved here from NZ looking for a decent NON-us mirror here |
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| 17:18.14 | beardy | Everyone from UK, flood the channel. |
| 17:18.24 | jim | Cyphur: /topic |
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| 17:18.45 | Cyphur | sorry Im not an frequent irc user jim what does that mean? |
| 17:18.52 | goccia | nemo_: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/4622/print |
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| 17:19.17 | jim | Cyphur: into your irc client, type: /help newusers |
| 17:19.19 | winicius | I just can't wait until the debian developers fix the debootstrap error during installation, because my laptop is feeling a lil lonely without an OS. = / |
| 17:19.26 | en1gma | beardy the error messages are on the pic at this link http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/o/howet/ |
| 17:19.35 | nemo_ | Thanks I apreciate it |
| 17:19.40 | dnagenie | is etch using xorg? |
| 17:19.43 | jim | en1gma: ok, did you get the .deb? |
| 17:19.45 | close_to_debian | How do i check whether the system is using grub or lilo |
| 17:19.50 | dnagenie | or do i have to do the same trick as sarge? |
| 17:19.51 | close_to_debian | i Can see bot the confs |
| 17:19.52 | en1gma | did i get a .deb? |
| 17:20.02 | en1gma | i got sarge cd1 |
| 17:20.07 | beardy | close_to_debian: boot it. |
| 17:20.18 | dnagenie | i installed from dvd and it's circa 6/5/05 so it doesn't have xorg in testing |
| 17:20.18 | jim | en1gma: go here: |
| 17:20.20 | en1gma | me? |
| 17:20.24 | jim | http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libncurses5-dev |
| 17:20.28 | jim | yes |
| 17:20.33 | Cyphur | Anyone here running debian unstable in the uk Id love to get a apt line that will work for my non-us packages |
| 17:20.35 | winicius | when you turn on the start up, you can see which one you have. But if you want to make sure, try to open /boot/grub/menu.list |
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| 17:20.36 | beardy | en1gma: Do what jim told you earlier. |
| 17:20.43 | winicius | if you don't have that, you most likely have lilo. = ) |
| 17:20.48 | close_to_debian | beardy: I dont have physical access to it |
| 17:20.49 | en1gma | ok im there |
| 17:21.01 | jim | yeah, it's a workaround that might work for you... ok, so download the deb from there |
| 17:21.16 | en1gma | both of em or just one |
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| 17:21.18 | ulitz | nemo_: its /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 17:21.21 | beardy | close_to_debian: locate /etc/lilo.conf, locate /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 17:21.34 | jim | en1gma: probably you already have ncurses5 |
| 17:21.45 | en1gma | yea i think i installed that already |
| 17:21.48 | beardy | close_to_debian: If both exist, hard to tell. Check which one has been last edited. |
| 17:21.56 | PF | dang...there's alot of hummans on this irc chammel |
| 17:21.58 | jim | libncurses5-dev? |
| 17:22.09 | beardy | close_to_debian: Or (don't do this) grab the mbr from the drive and examine it. |
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| 17:22.10 | en1gma | yep i see that on the site |
| 17:22.11 | jim | PF: how do you know that?! |
| 17:22.12 | PF | :) |
| 17:22.14 | syntaxx | is there a way i can edit .ico to .xpm or .png? what app do i need to get? |
| 17:22.19 | PF | Hey Jim |
| 17:22.21 | en1gma | i hope i can get it off ntfs onto linux part |
| 17:22.35 | Cyphur | syntaxx use gimp |
| 17:22.43 | syntaxx | Cyphur, ok thanks |
| 17:22.56 | jim | en1gma: one possibility: put it on a dos-formatted floppy |
| 17:22.59 | beardy | en1gma: Nice idea to take pictures. Thanks for helping us help you. |
| 17:23.09 | en1gma | :) |
| 17:23.25 | jim | yeah, that's always nice |
| 17:23.35 | jim | hi pf |
| 17:23.35 | en1gma | i had to think for a minute how to do it without writting everything on paper then booting windows and typing it all correctly :) |
| 17:23.54 | Cyphur | Can anyone give me a line for my sources.list that will work over here for unstable (non us mirror) |
| 17:23.54 | en1gma | apt-get install name.deb? |
| 17:24.00 | jim | no |
| 17:24.01 | Cyphur | everything I try seems to be intermittent |
| 17:24.06 | jim | run this... dpkg --help |
| 17:24.17 | en1gma | okie thanks |
| 17:24.22 | PF | man, i just idle too much on IRC :) |
| 17:24.28 | en1gma | i think i did one earlier with 'dpkg -i filename' |
| 17:24.31 | close_to_debian | beardy: dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 | grep LILO |
| 17:24.33 | jim | because dpkg is the actual tool that does (among MANY other things) installs |
| 17:24.36 | close_to_debian | beardy: dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 | grep GRUB |
| 17:24.50 | en1gma | ok gonna reboot and try and get it going. thanks again |
| 17:24.51 | en1gma | bbiab |
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| 17:25.17 | goccia | dannythm: two months ago i installed xorg on my sarge and after i put xfree back : just apt-get install : i do not know at the moment if this still works but it worked back then |
| 17:25.25 | beardy | close_to_debian: I don't think there'll be anything in cleartext there. But you can try. But know what you are doing. |
| 17:25.48 | brosioz | could use PPLIVE,PPSTREAM with vlc on linux ? |
| 17:26.13 | PF | time to organize my computer desk....it's getting a little too messy |
| 17:26.16 | Cyphur | Anyone wanna hear a bstd orf a problem? |
| 17:26.24 | beardy | Cyphur: Ask. |
| 17:26.30 | goccia | dannythm: i suggest you do apt-get -s install as a simulation and read what apt say first |
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| 17:26.31 | dannythm | I add the sources to my sourcelist for the xorg, but when I do the apt-get update it tells me an error |
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| 17:26.44 | Cyphur | Im running 2.6.7-686 unstable on a dell 8600 with Nvidia gfx card |
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| 17:26.53 | Cyphur | I did a dist upgrade upon arriving in england |
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| 17:26.58 | jim | "tell me a bedtime error mommy!" |
| 17:27.01 | Cyphur | and poof no more Xserver |
| 17:27.07 | beardy | !tell Cyphur -about enter |
| 17:27.09 | goccia | dannythm: put etch sources and check again ? |
| 17:27.12 | PF | in other words...the wife keeps bugging to clean up the desk :) |
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| 17:27.25 | Cyphur | when gdm starts up Its says you wanna see what went wrong |
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| 17:27.29 | jim | Cyphur: what operating system are you using? |
| 17:27.31 | Cyphur | and I get no info in the log file |
| 17:27.33 | Cyphur | Debian |
| 17:27.45 | close_to_debian | beardy: it works |
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| 17:27.55 | beardy | close_to_debian: Really? :) Nice. |
| 17:27.56 | Cyphur | !tell jim test |
| 17:27.59 | jim | sure about that? :) |
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| 17:28.16 | dannythm | jim: xorg |
| 17:28.20 | Cyphur | Its happened before to a lesser extend |
| 17:28.24 | Cyphur | extent sorry |
| 17:28.42 | Cyphur | Normally its an icomptability between the version of the nvidia driver and the kernel interface |
| 17:28.45 | cappiz | someone here good with danted? |
| 17:28.53 | Cyphur | but this time I cant even see the log to see if thats the problem |
| 17:28.54 | sussudio | !kill cappiz |
| 17:29.01 | close_to_debian | beardy: dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 | grep GRUB 1+0 records in 1+0 records out Binary file (standard input) matches |
| 17:29.06 | beardy | close_to_debian: heh, yeah, it did. |
| 17:29.09 | cappiz | lol :P |
| 17:29.11 | Cyphur | Ive compiled the drivers with the kernel headers and works sweet |
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| 17:29.18 | Cyphur | then dpkg installed their arses |
| 17:29.23 | Cyphur | and restarted the gdm |
| 17:29.28 | Cyphur | but same problem persists |
| 17:29.32 | sussudio | !tell Cyphur about enter |
| 17:29.33 | Cyphur | driving me bonkers ;) |
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| 17:29.56 | Cyphur | Sorry Im not an irc whiz whats the deal with the !tell Cyphur things? |
| 17:30.14 | Cyphur | Im in text mode at the moment as I dont have x :( |
| 17:30.30 | beardy | Cyphur: It means that you should read what dpkg tells you in a msg. |
| 17:30.30 | pureone | what irc client Cyphur ? |
| 17:30.36 | jim | so did you notice that occasionally dpkg messages you? |
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| 17:30.54 | Cyphur | irssi-text pureone |
| 17:31.03 | mutante | Cyphur: see a pink number ? |
| 17:31.06 | Cyphur | nope :( |
| 17:31.07 | pureone | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.13 | Cyphur | no pink number |
| 17:31.16 | dannythm | When I add the soruces of xorg to my sources.list and I do an apt-get update I get an error telling me that it was unable to obtain that sources >< |
| 17:31.21 | Cyphur | and no message from dpkg |
| 17:31.24 | beardy | Cyphur: Alt-Number_of_new_window |
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| 17:31.49 | jim | dannythm: show one of the source lines you added |
| 17:32.27 | Cyphur | Sorry abou tthat guys :( |
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| 17:33.33 | dannythm | jim: deb http://people.debian.org/~obse/xorg-x11/ sarge main |
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| 17:34.03 | goccia | obse ? |
| 17:34.07 | goccia | hmmm |
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| 17:34.23 | _gass_ | hello ppl |
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| 17:34.57 | _gass_ | does anyone managed to compile the ooo2 recently entered in unstable, in i386? the buildd fails |
| 17:35.05 | _gass_ | and still we have a package |
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| 17:35.15 | jim | Not Found |
| 17:35.15 | jim | The requested URL /~obse/xorg-x11/ was not found on this server. |
| 17:35.24 | jim | there's your problem |
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| 17:35.30 | Cyphur | hmmmmm |
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| 17:35.47 | dannythm | jim: I presumeed that... which are the source I need? |
| 17:36.08 | thc | dannythm: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 17:36.22 | Cyphur | Wheres the log file for the primary xserver located? |
| 17:36.31 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.46 | dannythm | ¿? |
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| 17:37.06 | goccia | dannythm: should be nobse |
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| 17:37.14 | Cyphur | theres no log there? |
| 17:37.34 | dannythm | goccia: I'm noob in some areas n_nUu |
| 17:37.43 | Cyphur | What should it be called? |
| 17:37.48 | jim | http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ |
| 17:37.53 | thc | dannythm: message the bot. it tells you *exactly* what to do. |
| 17:38.02 | jim | that has stuff |
| 17:38.03 | goccia | dannythm: i double checked and it is nobse :) |
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| 17:38.31 | jim | I'm noob in the areas I'm noob in |
| 17:38.31 | dannythm | oh |
| 17:38.41 | dannythm | thanks... I'm a little slow today n_nUu |
| 17:38.56 | thc | wtf is n_nUu |
| 17:39.01 | w3rdn4 | ok I have a Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles), but I do not know my card type, can anyone help me with that? |
| 17:39.06 | goccia | i remember a nobse backport rep two years ago or more |
| 17:39.21 | dnagenie | i'm kind of confused on on headers and kernels.. if i have kernel-2.6.8-2 and i want to install somthing that needs kernel 2.6.8-12 do i need the header for 2.6.8-12 or the kernel? |
| 17:39.29 | dannythm | thc: an smily |
| 17:39.31 | thc | i was going to buy a small sata disk just for sarge to run on, am i going to have any issues getting the d-i to see a sata drive? (i seem to recall users complaining that it wouldn't) |
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| 17:39.45 | jim | w3rdn4: see if lspci shows your card |
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| 17:40.21 | jim | thc: maybe... install on a pata, then copy to the sata |
| 17:40.26 | dragonfly | i've installed debian and can't seem to get into an X environment....on boot, i get the following message several times: "Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing." |
| 17:40.44 | jim | oh, and rebuild kernel on the pata before you can access the sata |
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| 17:41.01 | Cyphur | Whats the name of the X log file and where is it located? If it was deleted previously could that cause the Xserver to be unable to write to it in the future? |
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| 17:41.22 | madroach | does the user-space NFS server suppert NFSv3?? I have problems with files >2GB. |
| 17:41.26 | jim | or install a kernel-image package that has support for the sata controller |
| 17:41.32 | tremor | cyphur: should be in /var/log |
| 17:41.47 | thc | jim: that's the answer i was hoping for heh |
| 17:41.49 | w3rdn4 | lspci gives me Brooktree Corporation and more stuff |
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| 17:42.05 | youssef_ | I cannot start X. The problem seems to come from the mouse according to the log |
| 17:42.08 | tremor | for xfree86: /var/log/XFree86.*.log |
| 17:42.09 | Cyphur | tremor Whats the name of the file? |
| 17:42.19 | thc | youssef_: /msg dpkg drx |
| 17:42.19 | Cyphur | ahh those arent there |
| 17:42.41 | jim | thc: having said that... you MIGHT be able to find a netinst cd that has support for additional sata controller chipsets |
| 17:43.00 | thc | jim: that would be a testing iso i assume? |
| 17:43.06 | jim | I tried to build one myself... did'nt know how |
| 17:43.10 | jim | maybe sarge |
| 17:43.24 | jim | but NOT officially released for sarge |
| 17:43.35 | nvz | well I think I'll just say fuck it and buy a Mac iBook or PowerBook for around $400 |
| 17:43.38 | tremor | Cyphur: when i start the xserver, it says me, where i will find the log |
| 17:43.41 | cheal | dragonfly: did you try to google it? |
| 17:43.43 | youssef_ | thc: do you mean I have to run "dpkg-reconfigure drx" ? |
| 17:43.43 | jim | so that's why you have to dig around for it |
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| 17:43.52 | thc | figured that, cheers. i will look around, just wanted to make sure there are ways to do it before i buy a sata disk |
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| 17:44.06 | nvz | going to put $100 aside for it now, and at least $100 more Thursday |
| 17:44.08 | thc | youssef_: no, you msg the bot |
| 17:44.14 | jim | thc: maybe simplest to install onto non-sata disk first |
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| 17:44.26 | thc | youssef_: the package is either xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg |
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| 17:44.31 | cheal | dnagenie: what are you trying to install? |
| 17:44.34 | c01100011 | I am looking to pick up an mp3 player with good linux supprt (a 60gb usb hardrive with a screen) any recomendations ? |
| 17:44.42 | Berserker22 | Hi ? Can anybody tell me why package mysql-server-4.1 conflicts with mysql-common-4.1 ? |
| 17:44.47 | dnagenie | i've been having lot's of issues with udev |
| 17:44.51 | Cyphur | if I go startx then i get an error no 111 and unable to connect to x server |
| 17:44.55 | dragonfly | i now have it to where i can log in and give the command "gdm" and get to the log-in screen except that the image is broken and not right |
| 17:45.00 | jim | cc? |
| 17:45.02 | dnagenie | and it always has a dependancy to 2.6.8-12 kernel |
| 17:45.02 | thc | jim: i already have sarge on a partition of my large IDE disk |
| 17:45.09 | jim | 01100011c? |
| 17:45.12 | jim | 0110001101100011? |
| 17:45.13 | dnagenie | i've installed debian 5 times today |
| 17:45.19 | thc | i was going to wipe it and just install sarge on the sata |
| 17:45.20 | youssef_ | thc xserver-xfree86 is already installed |
| 17:45.20 | Cyphur | haah nice dna :) |
| 17:45.21 | dnagenie | i don't know how to get around it |
| 17:45.35 | dnagenie | i'm in etch distro |
| 17:45.36 | thc | youssef_: i know that. you need to reconfigure it, not reinstall. |
| 17:45.48 | dnagenie | and i've just updated |
| 17:45.55 | thc | youssef_: you lied to debconf about your mouse input device. |
| 17:45.58 | dnagenie | i basically have 2 major issues |
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| 17:46.07 | cheal | Berserker22: which release? why do you care? |
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| 17:46.15 | dnagenie | 1. apt-get update so i have xorg |
| 17:46.22 | dnagenie | and then i want to do the nvidia one-liner |
| 17:46.25 | Berserker22 | cheal, testing |
| 17:46.41 | youssef_ | for a ps2 mouse it is /dev/psaux ? |
| 17:46.43 | Cyphur | Anyone wanna have a peek at my box? |
| 17:46.49 | dnagenie | http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11185-0.html?forumID=90&threadID=179944&start=0 should i include randal donald's nvidia modules? |
| 17:46.56 | Berserker22 | cheal, I care just for interesting |
| 17:46.58 | thc | youssef_: that will work, but /dev/input/mice should also work |
| 17:46.58 | Cyphur | Im going to give up soon :( |
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| 17:47.01 | cheal | Berserker22: I don't see such conflict |
| 17:47.05 | dli | Cyphur, what's the problem? |
| 17:47.07 | jim | thc: ahh... if you can get a 2.6.11+ kernel working there (preferably a prebuilt-by-debian one), you stand a better chance of having your sata controller chipset JustWork. |
| 17:47.13 | Cyphur | hehe |
| 17:47.28 | thc | jim: that's what i'll do then, i should have stated that i already had sarge installed heh |
| 17:47.36 | Cyphur | how to I talk directly to someon? |
| 17:47.38 | dnagenie | you see i've finally convinced my girl to try linux and i want it to be perfect |
| 17:47.48 | jim | well, yeah... would have saved some time :P |
| 17:47.54 | Cyphur | dli : I updated my dist and now my xserver wont start |
| 17:48.08 | dli | thc: I have trouble with /dev/input/mice sometimes, so I keep both /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice |
| 17:48.24 | Cyphur | dli: used to just require a recompile of the nvidia drivers but apparently not this time |
| 17:48.26 | cheal | dnagenie: so you're saying that etch's udev has a dependency on kernel 2.6.8-12 |
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| 17:48.28 | cheal | ? |
| 17:48.30 | dli | Cyphur, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, what's the error message |
| 17:48.36 | thc | dli: whatever's clever, /dev/input/mice is supposed to pick up a PS/2 mouse device |
| 17:48.39 | nvz | dnagenie: tell her that very much like herself, linux is not perfect. "It's just one of those things, you'll have to get over it" |
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| 17:48.42 | ryanium | how can i add packages.debian.org to my souces.list ? |
| 17:48.45 | dli | Cyphur, /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 17:48.52 | dnagenie | well not perfect iguess |
| 17:48.53 | cheal | ryanium: why would you do that? |
| 17:48.59 | jim | ryanium: that's not a repos |
| 17:49.03 | dannythm | I just instaled xorg but no change, |
| 17:49.03 | dnagenie | just good enoughh so she won't complain |
| 17:49.05 | dnagenie | lol |
| 17:49.07 | ryanium | oh :( |
| 17:49.09 | Cyphur | dli: theres no such log file |
| 17:49.14 | dannythm | how can I configure xorg? |
| 17:49.14 | goccia | don't blame sarge : i've installed sid libc6 on sarge too and back to normal : it is a timing issue or a luck issue :) |
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| 17:49.17 | dli | thc: I don't care about "should", as far as it works |
| 17:49.20 | ryanium | what are some good sources to add then? i always go there to get stuff like grellm etc |
| 17:49.22 | cheal | !drxx dannythm |
| 17:49.23 | dpkg | dannythm: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:49.32 | thc | dli: what is the point of this? |
| 17:49.38 | dli | Cyberax, /dev/log/XFree86.0.log ? |
| 17:49.42 | thc | dli: i really don't care what you use. |
| 17:49.44 | cheal | ryanium: # apt-setup |
| 17:49.46 | dli | thc: the point is, it works |
| 17:49.50 | ryanium | thx |
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| 17:50.24 | Cyphur | How do you private chat with someone? |
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| 17:50.44 | dli | Cyphur, /msg id |
| 17:50.45 | thc | Cyphur: most users on this network find private messages highly annoying. |
| 17:50.50 | Cyphur | cheers |
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| 17:50.57 | dnagenie | i think you invite them with /msg |
| 17:51.24 | Cyphur | how about how you get your name to go yellow in my irc window? |
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| 17:51.42 | jim | Cyphur: we have this yellow paint... |
| 17:51.46 | dnagenie | anyone know of a google talk program? not the chat but talk |
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| 17:51.51 | Cyphur | haha nice jim |
| 17:51.58 | dnagenie | all of my famlily is using it |
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| 17:52.03 | Cyphur | Im new to irc forgive me |
| 17:52.06 | dnagenie | jabber does the chat |
| 17:52.06 | nvz | saving up for an iBook seems like the best hardware I can get for my dollar. I just need to find something to ammuse myself until I've saved up for an iBook |
| 17:52.12 | dli | Cyberax, you put user id in your message |
| 17:52.24 | jim | seriously, your irc client does it when you receive lines with your nick in it |
| 17:52.26 | dnagenie | what about those sexy g5's yeah |
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| 17:52.33 | Cyphur | ahh thats cool |
| 17:52.33 | dnagenie | whoo whoo |
| 17:52.41 | Cyphur | whos to know it isnt a command :) |
| 17:52.57 | nvz | I am talking about getting a G3 most likely probably 500-900mhz G3 for around $400 |
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| 17:53.10 | Blissex | nvz: http://www.feralweb.com/fwap.htm for the «find something to ammuse myself» bit :-) |
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| 17:53.32 | dli | nvz: sounds good, how much memory does it support |
| 17:53.50 | Cyphur | God Im beginning to hate my computer :) |
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| 17:54.19 | nvz | dli: IIRC they usually support up to 512MB ram, and they have standard miniIDE hds |
| 17:54.20 | Cyphur | Debian normally behaves so well then it bites you in the arse totally out of the blue :0 |
| 17:54.24 | dnagenie | yep in testing it barfs when it want's to install udev_0.070-2_i386.deb, it says it requires kernel >=2.6.12 |
| 17:54.28 | jim | Cyphur: debian is big; you -have- to allocate time to learn if you want to get anywhere |
| 17:54.45 | nvz | dli: I am just looking at apple laptops on ebay under $500 with buy it now option |
| 17:54.54 | dli | nvz, 512 is too small nowadays |
| 17:54.57 | Cyphur | jim: No offense Ive learnt quite a bit |
| 17:55.08 | nvz | dli: I've never used a pc with more than 512 |
| 17:55.10 | jim | I'm sure you have |
| 17:55.15 | dnagenie | anybody have a suggestion with my udev issue.. |
| 17:55.23 | jim | but here's another opportunity |
| 17:55.27 | Cyphur | jim: Ive been using debian for years |
| 17:55.35 | dli | nvz: :( my dell currently have 512 :( |
| 17:55.39 | dnagenie | do i install headers and then try to reinstall or do i have to get a kernel >= 2.6.12 |
| 17:55.40 | Cyphur | jim: its just this time its not playing cricket |
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| 17:55.53 | nvz | dli: I was going to buy the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 for about $150 and also looking at the SL-C3100 for about $650 |
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| 17:55.57 | jim | hide-the-cricket? |
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| 17:56.02 | c01100011 | I am looking to pick up an mp3 player with good linux supprt (a 60gb usb mass storage device with a screen) any recomendations ? |
| 17:56.03 | dnagenie | zaurus rocks |
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| 17:56.12 | dli | nvz: I put together a server with 3 GB/600GB last week :) |
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| 17:56.44 | jim | c01100011: for one, it would be nice if the drive can be mountede |
| 17:56.49 | Cyphur | jim: The reason its driving me nuts is because apparently now my log files no longer exist :) |
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| 17:56.58 | dli | nvz: I still want an ibm:( but too expensive |
| 17:57.01 | Cyphur | jim: so its very hard to fix a problem when you dotn know what it is! |
| 17:57.03 | nvz | the SL-C3100 has a ~400mhz cpu 4gb hd, 640x480 res.. its a really cool little gadget but I see all kinds of 500+ mhz G3's with 10gb or more on ebay, and they cost less |
| 17:57.14 | jim | \yes, that's of course very difficult |
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| 17:57.31 | dli | Cyphur, go to console |
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| 17:57.37 | dli | Cyphur, login as root |
| 17:57.46 | Cyphur | jim: dli Im in console Im logged in as root |
| 17:57.53 | dli | Cyphur, try " startx" |
| 17:57.54 | Cyphur | sorry jim that was for dli |
| 17:57.59 | Cyphur | dli: done |
| 17:58.01 | nvz | iBooks are portable enough for me, and pretty solid if I am going to go beyond the capabilities of say the SL-5500 I might as well get a laptop or else I am paying too much for something that doesnt really seem worth it |
| 17:58.10 | dli | Cyberax, what's the error message on screen |
| 17:58.12 | Cyphur | dli: I get the error I discussed previously |
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| 17:58.32 | Cyphur | dli: xinit server error |
| 17:58.34 | dli | Cyphur, /var/log logs this message :) |
| 17:58.43 | dli | Cyberax, before that? |
| 17:58.52 | w3rdn4 | how do I check to see if my Tuner for my card is install correctly? |
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| 17:59.08 | jim | Cyphur: /usr/bin/X exists? |
| 17:59.09 | Cyphur | dli: No it doesnt! Thats what ive been saying the whole time! |
| 17:59.13 | dli | nvz: :) |
| 17:59.36 | nvz | I can easily have $200 saved by the 27th. and I could probably have $400 as early as Nov 3rd I just need to find a friend with an ebay account and a credit card so I dont have to fool with it. :P |
| 17:59.45 | nemo_ | What am I doing wrong??? in grub under where it says XP, I changed it to say.....Root (hd1,0)...map (hd0) (hd1)....map (hd1) (hd0)......rootnoverify (hd0,0)....chainloader +1.....and I still cant boot xp??? |
| 17:59.48 | Cyphur | jim: nope :) |
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| 17:59.54 | ryanium | Sometimes when I exi windowmaker my screen fades to white... any ideas? |
| 17:59.56 | Cyphur | jim: /usr/bin/x11 |
| 17:59.57 | nvz | then I will look that week for whatever is the best deal for an iBook around $400 |
| 18:00.04 | ryanium | totally freezes |
| 18:00.07 | nvz | I can buy more ram, bigger hd..etc as needed |
| 18:00.23 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:00.46 | dli | Cyberax, apt-get update |
| 18:00.56 | Cyphur | yeah of course :0 |
| 18:01.04 | Cyphur | dli: Please thats not helpful |
| 18:01.06 | dli | Cyberax, apt-get --yes --reinstall x11-common |
| 18:01.27 | jim | how do you know? :) |
| 18:01.50 | nvz | I just have a really boring job right now with a ton of free time. I could get a lot of stuff done in this time if I had a pc. |
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| 18:02.03 | Cyphur | Ive tried it |
| 18:02.04 | nvz | my desk needs an iBook :P |
| 18:02.07 | Cyphur | Im not a newbie :) |
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| 18:02.25 | Cyphur | Im wondering if it could be a package conflict |
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| 18:02.29 | nemo_ | can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong in grub? |
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| 18:02.40 | jim | what message do you get when you try that? |
| 18:02.45 | Cyphur | whats wrong with your grub nemo? |
| 18:02.48 | w3rdn4 | whoa CarlCox joined us! he is the man who spins on 3 decks at once and creates amazing stereophonics :) |
| 18:02.53 | goccia | nemo_: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html |
| 18:02.53 | nemo_ | I cant boot xp |
| 18:03.13 | jim | package conflict? does it give an error message when you do it? |
| 18:03.29 | jim | (not being a newbie is one thing, but remember we cannot see your screen) |
| 18:03.32 | nite613 | 32112 |
| 18:03.40 | Cyphur | nemo_: what hd is your xp on? |
| 18:03.43 | CarlCox | w3rdn4: heh, it is my 3rd nick |
| 18:03.48 | Cyphur | Its reinstalled fine |
| 18:03.48 | nemo_ | the second |
| 18:03.59 | goccia | nemo_: i think makeactive should do it |
| 18:04.15 | jim | ok, so /usr/bin/x11/X does exist? |
| 18:04.20 | Cyphur | gives me the message seeting up x11 commong startup links already exist |
| 18:04.24 | Cyphur | jim: yeah :) |
| 18:04.25 | nemo_ | where do I put make active in the list? |
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| 18:04.30 | Cyphur | jim: In a world of trouble if it doesnt |
| 18:04.33 | jim | if so... try this in a dir you can write to: |
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| 18:04.44 | goccia | nemo_: next to savedefault ? |
| 18:04.54 | jim | X > x.logfile.txt 2>&1 |
| 18:05.04 | jim | then ctrl-alt-bksp |
| 18:05.08 | w3rdn4 | how do I view what modules are loaded? |
| 18:05.15 | jim | man lsmod |
| 18:05.54 | Cyphur | nemo_: add another entry to the config file for grub its located at /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 18:06.14 | jim | after running that, you should have the file x.logfile.txt in cwd... read that file |
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| 18:07.10 | Cyphur | jim: tried it no luck |
| 18:07.13 | jim | Cyphur: for being a non-newbie, you sure don't know how to get help... why are you failing to respond? I'm -hungry- and I'm trying to help you |
| 18:07.23 | jim | what do you mean "no luck" |
| 18:07.28 | Cyphur | jim: Because I was trying it out |
| 18:07.29 | jim | !sicco |
| 18:07.29 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 18:07.35 | jim | ok |
| 18:07.36 | nemo_ | goccia: then I missed something, ...This is what I have uder xp in the list.....root (hd1,0) map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 |
| 18:07.37 | jim | good |
| 18:07.45 | jim | so what do you mean "no luck" |
| 18:07.49 | dli | jim: go for real food :) |
| 18:07.54 | Cyphur | Jim: and helping out the other dude :) The file contains nothing and printing the stderr to the screen resulted in nothing |
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| 18:08.26 | dli | jim: he doesn't understand " 2>&1" |
| 18:08.33 | jim | iirc, the stderr should have been included |
| 18:08.42 | jim | actually I think he does understand |
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| 18:08.57 | Cyphur | jim: I get nothing in the file and nothing on the screen :) |
| 18:09.05 | dli | jim: "stderr to the screen", hehe |
| 18:09.12 | jim | ok, what else happens? |
| 18:09.16 | Cyphur | nothing :0 |
| 18:09.21 | jim | weird |
| 18:09.28 | Cyphur | My point exactly hehe |
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| 18:09.39 | jim | ls -l /usr/bin/x11/X |
| 18:10.26 | Cyphur | jim: done :) |
| 18:10.40 | jim | Cyphur: the point I was trying to make before is that maybe you're ahead of everyone wrt your issue/problem... that's a problem, and you have to "teach" us what's happening |
| 18:10.51 | jim | could you show that line please |
| 18:11.08 | Cyphur | hehe im in terminal its kinda hard to copy stuff :) |
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| 18:11.29 | jim | does it have zero length? |
| 18:11.38 | Cyphur | nope :) |
| 18:11.43 | jim | also: "which X" |
| 18:12.03 | jim | does it show the same place or a different place? |
| 18:12.32 | Cyphur | -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7560 2005-10-14 20:43 /usr/bin/X11/X |
| 18:12.35 | jim | does the file have +x? |
| 18:12.42 | Cyphur | there you go sorry it took so long :0 had to type it in |
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| 18:12.58 | jim | ok |
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| 18:13.24 | jim | ok, so: does "which X" show /usr/bin/X11/X? |
| 18:13.32 | beardy | Cyphur: Have a look at the package gpm. |
| 18:13.32 | goccia | nemo_: i'm not doing win98 and wk2000 anymore so i can't remeber the map thing :lines are title root savedefault makeactive and chainloader : when you boot press c to get a command line and write your command there : start qith kernel(hd and tab |
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| 18:14.05 | goccia | nemo_: and so on : this way you'llse whwre the errors are |
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| 18:14.23 | Cyphur | beardy: gpm |
| 18:14.25 | Cyphur | ? |
| 18:14.38 | nemo_ | goccia: ok well i'm going to give it another go....thanks |
| 18:15.03 | Cyphur | nemo_: if you cant get it working after that Ill copy you my lines I used for xp :) |
| 18:15.04 | jim | have fun :)_ |
| 18:15.14 | Cyphur | jim: ur from nz? |
| 18:15.22 | nemo_ | ok thank I really appreciate it |
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| 18:15.28 | jim | nope |
| 18:15.40 | Cyphur | jim: Oh ok :) see ya thanks |
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| 18:15.59 | fooscope | Cyphur: apt-get install gpm for mouse support in console, left mouse for highlight, right mouse for paste |
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| 18:16.15 | Cyphur | fooscope ahh cheers :) |
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| 18:16.59 | Cyphur | fooscope: Thanks for that |
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| 18:17.05 | Cyphur | Gotta go eat brb |
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| 18:18.23 | sussudio | damned. |
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| 18:19.38 | abrotman | Piggy: squeal! |
| 18:19.42 | Berserker22 | how long may I wait for php5 appearing in testing ? |
| 18:19.46 | sussudio | stupid servers |
| 18:19.57 | abrotman | !why is php5 not in testing |
| 18:19.58 | dpkg | php5 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=php5 |
| 18:20.01 | abrotman | Berserker22: ^^ |
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| 18:20.10 | abrotman | sussudio: i blame the intarweb :) |
| 18:20.20 | w3rdn4 | how do I get audio to work with a TV tuner card? I have the video working, could my soundblaster live produce the audio? |
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| 18:20.48 | sussudio | w3rdn4: think a minute about that and slap yourself around after that. |
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| 18:21.47 | w3rdn4 | sussudio, how do I get the audio to work? It works with things like xmms and such, but not with tvtime :( |
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| 18:22.20 | sussudio | w3rdn4: i'm not answering you unless you think about your question first. |
| 18:22.37 | Berserker22 | abrotman, thanks :) |
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| 18:22.56 | w3rdn4 | sussudio, yes my sound card will play sound |
| 18:23.13 | sussudio | ok, you're stupid. |
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| 18:23.29 | goccia | nemo: map (hd0) (hd1) / map (hd1) (hd0) /rootnoverify (hd0,0) /makeactive/chainloader +1 |
| 18:23.39 | sussudio | w3rdn4: tv audio comes from where? |
| 18:23.41 | trc | anybody knows what happened to linux-image-2.6.13 in sid? Can't find any in http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/ |
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| 18:23.52 | abrotman | trc: afaik .. it was never in sid ... |
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| 18:24.09 | YaleR | trc, grab a source from kernel.org |
| 18:24.13 | trc | hmm, abrotman, once i downloaded one from there |
| 18:24.15 | w3rdn4 | it travels through the cable. |
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| 18:24.34 | Cyphur | anyone here a true guru? |
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| 18:24.41 | abrotman | trc: you mean from experimental |
| 18:24.42 | sussudio | !guru |
| 18:24.42 | dpkg | well, guru is (GURU Understands Real Unix) or An expert, especially in "{Unix} guru". Implies not only {wizard} skill but also a history of being a knowledge resource for others. Less often, used (with a qualifier) for other experts on other systems, as in "VMS guru". or what meditates inside Amigas. or it's pointless to ask for a guru in a knowledge field because people being humble, nobody will answer your question. "GUide to Ram ... |
| 18:24.47 | EvilSporkMan | my desktop is hosed in the oddest way...it seems as though the window manager intermittently stops acknowledging the presence of other windows. when i click in things like gaim's buddy list and then click anywhere else on the screen, the highlight just moves in the buddy list. this broke seemingly overnight. I'm using testing on AMD64, but I have marillat unstable, and I'm using GNOME |
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| 18:24.55 | beaufils | how do I specify my applications (gtk based for instance) to use some user specified fonts (stored in a particular directory) ? |
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| 18:25.06 | sussudio | w3rdn4: the source of your tv audio is your tv card. where would your soundcard get it? |
| 18:25.17 | Cyphur | thats such bollocks |
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| 18:25.20 | trc | abrotman and YaleR: hmm, could be from experimental, i just wanted to know if they had found problems in it |
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| 18:25.31 | goccia | nemo_ map (hd0) (hd1) / map (hd1) (hd0) /rootnoverify (hd0,0) /makeactive/chainloader +1 |
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| 18:25.48 | abrotman | trc: BTS no help ? |
| 18:25.55 | trc | will check |
| 18:25.55 | sussudio | w3rdn4: unless you somehow hooked up the audio out of your tv card to the audio in of your soundcard, it's not going to happen. |
| 18:25.56 | EvilSporkMan | for example right now if i click and drag on the desktop to the right of the xchat window, the text of the chat gets highlighted |
| 18:26.05 | nemo_ | goccia: wow that was fast .......thanx |
| 18:26.08 | YaleR | trc, grab a source from kernel.org |
| 18:26.18 | trc | YaleR: will do |
| 18:26.19 | EvilSporkMan | and if i roll the scroll wheel on the desktop, the chat scrolls...it's as though focus gets stuck on single GTK widgets |
| 18:26.23 | w3rdn4 | so then I would have to connect my speakers into my tv tuner card for audio? |
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| 18:26.36 | Cyphur | beardy: are you alive? |
| 18:26.37 | sussudio | w3rdn4: or what i said. |
| 18:26.55 | beardy | Cyphur: Yes? (I think so) |
| 18:26.56 | w3rdn4 | ok |
| 18:27.00 | w3rdn4 | time to do some tests |
| 18:27.02 | nemo_ | goccia: do i leave root (hd1,0) in the list? |
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| 18:27.18 | Cyphur | beardy: sorry u just seemed like the person that may actually have a useful suggestion |
| 18:27.23 | abrotman | !resuccicitate beardy |
| 18:27.24 | cockroach | EvilSporkMan: you don't by any chance have a stuck shift, ctrl or alt key? they usually cause spooky things... |
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| 18:27.29 | beardy | Cyphur: About what? |
| 18:27.29 | abrotman | nope .. can't spell |
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| 18:27.38 | sussudio | wtf..... |
| 18:27.40 | Cyphur | beardy: why debian hates me :) |
| 18:27.45 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:27.45 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:27.50 | beardy | Cyphur: It doesn't :) |
| 18:27.57 | sussudio | an ambulance just sped through the street here... and there's like 6 speedbumps |
| 18:27.59 | EvilSporkMan | cockroach: that's what i thought, but alt-f2 brings up the run menu, so ctrl isn't stuck; F2 at console doesn't do anything, so alt isn't stuck, and i'm typing in lowercase, so shift isn't stuck |
| 18:28.01 | Cyphur | beardy: haha thanks :) |
| 18:28.13 | cockroach | EvilSporkMan: heh, good point :) |
| 18:28.19 | Gegenteil | Where can I get Motif Window Manager? I would like it on my Debian workstation. |
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| 18:28.35 | EvilSporkMan | and the infamous right-click key pops up some menu, so it isn't stuck |
| 18:28.41 | Gegenteil | If not, is there a good Motif Window Manager clone available? |
| 18:28.45 | valdyn | Gegenteil: you tried apt-cache search motif window manager ? |
| 18:28.59 | jla | I need some help using k3b to burn multiple audio images more efficiently. I can do on-the-fly just fine, but I'd like to burn multiple copies at a faster speed after the tracks are converted the fist time. |
| 18:29.06 | beardy | !comfort EvilSporkMan |
| 18:29.06 | Cyphur | Is there any way to get the xserver to rebuild its log files? |
| 18:29.07 | dpkg | There, there, EvilSporkMan. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:29.14 | zalian | how can i cofigure request tracker |
| 18:29.17 | goccia | nemo_: that was my old menu.lst : do you have TWO redmonds craps ? |
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| 18:29.43 | EvilSporkMan | oh and afaict, i am NOT running two window managers |
| 18:30.05 | cockroach | jla: how about writing to an image file and burning that one from the commandline, afterwards |
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| 18:30.10 | Gegenteil | valdyn: Thank you. |
| 18:30.17 | youssef | hello. I still cannot run startx |
| 18:30.41 | Gegenteil | valdyn: I didn't see anything that was close enough to Motif Window Manager. |
| 18:30.44 | jla | cockroah It converts to a 650ish meg .wav, and no .cue file as far as I can tell. What do I do from there? |
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| 18:30.51 | youssef | problems with the mouse. But I ran several times dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 without success |
| 18:30.54 | goccia | nemo_: i mean : you need map to run TWO "other" os : if you just run xp no need for map |
| 18:30.59 | valdyn | Gegenteil: motif-clients - Open Motif - X11 clients (mwm, xmbind) <- mwm is it |
| 18:31.05 | beardy | youssef: Continue with at until you get it right. |
| 18:31.12 | valdyn | Gegenteil: ops, was supposed to be 'mwm is it?' |
| 18:31.19 | beardy | with that |
| 18:31.20 | Cyphur | Anyone know a decent Non-US mirror I have a feeling that my problem will correct itself if i can do a full update :) |
| 18:31.21 | youssef | beardy: are you joking ? |
| 18:31.25 | Gegenteil | valdyn: Yeah, mwm. |
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| 18:31.27 | beardy | youssef: No? |
| 18:32.00 | beardy | youssef: (In between, check what you should be telling it, to configure it properly of course) |
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| 18:32.05 | Gegenteil | I see lesstif. I know that has amotif-like library, I am not sure about window manager. |
| 18:32.46 | EvilSporkMan | Gegenteil: motif isn't free, so i'm guessing you're not going to find the motif window manager |
| 18:32.56 | youssef | thanks beardy |
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| 18:33.03 | valdyn | Gegenteil: uh, ithought it was clear enough: the package 'motif-clients' contains mwm |
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| 18:33.10 | beardy | youssef: What kind of mouse do you have? |
| 18:33.25 | beardy | youssef: Is it the mouse that is the cause of it not working? |
| 18:33.27 | Gegenteil | EvilSporkMan: I need motif, it is what I used in 1995. |
| 18:33.38 | linuxg4ming | anybody knows how to mount devices on boot? what do i have to write in fstab? |
| 18:33.43 | w3rdn4 | ok |
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| 18:33.53 | valdyn | linuxg4ming: man fstab |
| 18:33.58 | w3rdn4 | I have my TV tuner audio out going into my soundcards line in |
| 18:34.05 | linuxg4ming | thanks |
| 18:34.17 | Cyphur | Anyone here up to date with mono? |
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| 18:34.20 | beardy | linuxg4ming: Well documented in 'man 5 fstab'. |
| 18:34.23 | EvilSporkMan | w3rdn4: fire up a mixer and crank up the line in volume |
| 18:34.35 | w3rdn4 | Did that and I have no luck |
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| 18:34.57 | EvilSporkMan | are there any other modifier keys besides shift/ctrl/alt/right-click that would cause GNOME to behave oddly if stuck down? |
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| 18:35.13 | beardy | Cyphur: You will have better luck if you just ask your question. |
| 18:35.24 | jla | cockroach I'm looking into that, thanks for the tip. Do you know how to get K3B to use the audio "image" it makes? |
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| 18:35.39 | Cyphur | ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
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| 18:35.46 | Cyphur | beardy: dont worry about it |
| 18:35.47 | abrotman | pirate! |
| 18:35.50 | linuxg4ming | am i right that drives should be mounted if "noauto" is NOT set? |
| 18:35.59 | Cyphur | beardy: Ive fixed my problem |
| 18:36.04 | EvilSporkMan | oh, and if i press alt-f1, Applications turns black but (at least right now) the menu doesn't drop down. it did before (as in 3 minutes ago) |
| 18:36.11 | Cyphur | gcc version 3.3 |
| 18:36.15 | beardy | s |
| 18:36.20 | Cyphur | and gcc version 4 |
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| 18:36.30 | cockroach | jla: "Tools -> Burn CD Image", i think |
| 18:36.33 | shad0w1e | How do I start GNOME once its installed?? |
| 18:36.40 | Cyphur | I compiled kernel with v 3.3 and the lastest nvidia drivers are compiled with 4 |
| 18:36.49 | beardy | shad0w1e: Do you run gdm? |
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| 18:36.51 | EvilSporkMan | Alt-F1, Alt-F2, Esc, Esc does: applications -> black, run window pops up, applications->normal, run window goes away. |
| 18:36.55 | EvilSporkMan | something is very amiss with focus |
| 18:36.56 | Cyphur | theres a difference in the way they interface that isnt worth talking about |
| 18:36.58 | shad0w1e | beardy, I'm actually using cygwin... |
| 18:37.04 | Cyphur | point is its sweet |
| 18:37.05 | jla | cockroach It doesn't accept it as an image type. :( I'll keep at it, thanks. |
| 18:37.07 | shad0w1e | whats the gnome exec command? |
| 18:37.12 | beardy | shad0w1e: This is not the place then. |
| 18:37.13 | gr8ron | shad0w1e: apt-get install gdm usually if not using startx |
| 18:37.13 | EvilSporkMan | shad0w1e: cygwin is not debian |
| 18:37.18 | shad0w1e | I understand that! |
| 18:37.22 | cockroach | jla: weird. |
| 18:37.25 | shad0w1e | what is the frikkin gnome exec command |
| 18:37.27 | shad0w1e | ~!~ |
| 18:37.36 | shad0w1e | like kde is startkde |
| 18:37.36 | w3rdn4 | hmmm |
| 18:37.40 | EvilSporkMan | shad0w1e: there are something like 5 ways to start gnome |
| 18:37.40 | shad0w1e | what's gnome |
| 18:37.42 | Cyphur | beardy: Thanks for the moral support! |
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| 18:37.52 | jla | cockroach: That's what I think. I'm using 0.11.20 (Debian/3.1) |
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| 18:38.00 | EvilSporkMan | shad0w1e: and there's probably a 6th way on cygwin that none of us knows about...go bug the cygwin people k thx |
| 18:38.03 | shad0w1e | ah... any ideas of what I can try (as the cygwin channel is sort of empty) |
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| 18:38.15 | EvilSporkMan | how about waiting for someone to respond? they do talk in there |
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| 18:38.30 | beardy | Cyphur: You Man-Of-Low-Moral-Fiber (Monkey Island) :) |
| 18:38.30 | shad0w1e | cant you people throw some suggestions at me? |
| 18:38.37 | EvilSporkMan | or even better, look at the cygwin documentation |
| 18:38.39 | EvilSporkMan | i just gave you two great suggestions |
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| 18:38.43 | beardy | shad0w1e: man gnome |
| 18:38.43 | shad0w1e | I like the latter |
| 18:38.47 | shad0w1e | thanx |
| 18:38.49 | abrotman | !gnome |
| 18:38.49 | dpkg | gnome is probably a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome> |
| 18:38.51 | Cyphur | beardy: Ahh I was getting so fed up and it was so simple |
| 18:38.58 | w3rdn4 | What should I load for audio with a tv tuner? I tried btaudio and it seems to not work |
| 18:39.26 | Cyphur | beardy: What annoys me the most is how people are so intent on proving their masterdom of linux and are incapable of actually offering sensible suggestions |
| 18:39.32 | beardy | Cyphur: I still haven't understood what you're actual problem was, but you're welcome :) |
| 18:39.56 | tarzeau | abrotman, takatumi, RichiH now? |
| 18:39.58 | shad0w1e | ok thanx peeps |
| 18:39.58 | abrotman | beardy: my problem is you! |
| 18:39.59 | shad0w1e | ! |
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| 18:40.06 | EvilSporkMan | oh, and in general keyboard shortcuts (e.g. Alt-F4) work but mouse things (drag the window, click the X) don't |
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| 18:40.09 | Cyphur | beardy: boils down to Before I updated there was no xorg xserver |
| 18:40.12 | beardy | !phillysmite abrotman |
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| 18:40.14 | Cyphur | beardy: and now there is |
| 18:40.16 | EvilSporkMan | alt-tab does NOT work |
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| 18:40.30 | Cyphur | beardy: and im a fruit loop who compiles everythign from source for fun |
| 18:40.45 | EvilSporkMan | did someone just say gentoo? |
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| 18:40.58 | Cyphur | hahaha nope :) |
| 18:40.59 | gr8ron | no |
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| 18:41.14 | Cyphur | beardy: ahhh its so pretty |
| 18:41.22 | Cyphur | beardy: and there are windows :) |
| 18:41.31 | beardy | Cyphur: That's ok. But don't complain if you're compiling something that is nicely packaged, and your compilation doesn't work. |
| 18:41.38 | cockroach | jla: oh, of course - k3b just creates .wav files. as long as you don't care about cd text, you can burn with with "cdrecord dev=$your_device -audio -v *wav" |
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| 18:41.48 | cockroach | s/with/them/ |
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| 18:41.51 | Cyphur | haha no there were two systems |
| 18:41.57 | Cyphur | beardy: one was standard package system |
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| 18:42.23 | Cyphur | and the problem stemmed from Xorg being invented and the other probklem was seperate and stemmed from different versions of gcc |
| 18:42.41 | beardy | Cyphur: And you have fixed it all now? |
| 18:42.50 | Cyphur | beardy: Im not complaining I was just looking for some intelligent advice :)! |
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| 18:43.27 | Cyphur | beardy: and yes all fixed |
| 18:43.37 | Cyphur | beardy: now did anyone else have any weird ass problems |
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| 18:43.52 | nixuser | very impressed with debian amd64 |
| 18:43.59 | beardy | Cyphur: Just sit back and wait. |
| 18:44.30 | SimonRaven | why is it that spammers send their crap out on the weekend? they think admins aren't there? |
| 18:44.45 | beardy | SimonRaven: sunday |
| 18:45.13 | EvilSporkMan | well, i'm going to try switching back to openbox and seeing if that fixes the problem |
| 18:45.20 | EvilSporkMan | i wish i could get some bloody help around here *grumble* |
| 18:45.26 | SimonRaven | sunday, as in 'no one's home' or 'sunday, day before monday'? :) |
| 18:45.31 | EvilSporkMan | !sunday |
| 18:45.31 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 18:45.41 | beardy | SimonRaven: sunday as in /msg dpkg sunday |
| 18:45.57 | SimonRaven | that's not why =) |
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| 18:46.08 | cougar` | Hey all isn't there a command that allows me to read log files with .gz without having to uncompress them before reading the contents? |
| 18:46.21 | SimonRaven | EvilSporkMan: i haven't seen your issue, and i'm busy doing other stuff |
| 18:46.22 | Blissex | cougar`: yes. |
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| 18:46.28 | beardy | SimonRaven: The "to #debian" can be ignored, they just swarm, everywhere.. |
| 18:46.30 | cougar` | Blissex : What is the command plz? |
| 18:46.32 | Cyphu1 | Ahhh thank god |
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| 18:46.35 | SimonRaven | cougar`: of course. zless |
| 18:46.37 | Cyphu1 | back in guiness |
| 18:46.41 | cougar` | thanks! |
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| 18:46.48 | Blissex | cougar`: or 'view' |
| 18:46.53 | SimonRaven | beardy: hehe, too true |
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| 18:47.20 | SimonRaven | fuck i hate editing large diffs... |
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| 18:48.29 | goccia | nice |
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| 18:48.56 | SimonRaven | better than candy :) |
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| 18:49.26 | goccia | yeaaa i remember it : taste good and looks even better :)) |
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| 18:51.45 | tarzeau | takatumi: join already? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
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| 18:52.09 | SimonRaven | ohnoz, not again !! ;p that game is addictive |
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| 18:52.57 | nixuser | anybody else in here running debian amd64? |
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| 18:53.36 | beardy | nixuser: In #debian-amd64 they are, at least. |
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| 18:53.38 | dondelelcaro | nixuser: just ask your question. |
| 18:53.49 | nixuser | ahhh thats where they are, thanks |
| 18:53.52 | beardy | And that, yes. |
| 18:53.55 | jim | nixuser: /msg dpkg polls |
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| 18:54.50 | goccia | this md5deep is very very handy : should be in debian |
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| 18:55.26 | deadcat | the hell. oo.org 2.0 is reuired 100+ MB? |
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| 18:55.29 | SimonRaven | goccia: md5sum of all the files present in a dir or something? |
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| 18:55.40 | SimonRaven | deadcat: yes, it's fricking huge |
| 18:55.45 | nixuser | lol |
| 18:55.53 | goccia | SimonRaven: yes : i've checked a data-dvd in a giff |
| 18:55.54 | EvilSporkMan | so that focus problem i explained occurs in openbox as well. I have _no idea_ what's going on...in summary, focus seems to remain on individual GTK widgets, even if I click on the desktop. I'm also having trouble dragging windows, etc. |
| 18:55.56 | dondelelcaro | goccia: you know you can md5sum *; or find . -type f |xargs md5sum; then md5sum -c. |
| 18:55.59 | bucky | how big is M$ Office? |
| 18:56.04 | SimonRaven | goccia: nice |
| 18:56.12 | nixuser | openoffice 2.0 is out |
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| 18:56.23 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: that thing probably does something similar |
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| 18:56.34 | jla | cockroach: Thanks, I'll do it that way. |
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| 18:56.38 | abrotman | bucky: wrong channel? |
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| 18:56.48 | goccia | dondelelcaro: i know but i need to double check a list and when i'm tired i cannot think "deep" :) |
| 18:56.49 | deadcat | SimonRaven: arent they gonna dice the package into diff pieces? like if i just want oowrite and ooimpress, dont give the shit about the others |
| 18:56.54 | marcot | How do I configure dnsmasq to get the dhcp clients hostname and add them in /etc/hosts? |
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| 18:57.07 | SimonRaven | EvilSporkMan: before or after a gtk focus bug was fixed? (last sid update of gtk2 IIRC) |
| 18:57.08 | bucky | abrotman, it's bigger than OOo |
| 18:57.10 | dondelelcaro | goccia: right, but the advantage of md5sum is that it's on all Debian systems anyway. |
| 18:57.11 | beardy | abrotman: I think he meant in comparision to OO.org |
| 18:57.12 | EvilSporkMan | is anyone else having weird focus problems in X that developed very recently? |
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| 18:57.16 | abrotman | bucky: i'm not sure about that |
| 18:57.18 | SimonRaven | deadcat: they do, look for it |
| 18:57.21 | goccia | dondelelcaro: it does rercursive positive and negative matches and so on ... |
| 18:57.26 | deadcat | SimonRaven: cool. |
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| 18:57.38 | dondelelcaro | EvilSporkMan: if they are, there will be a bug in the BTS about it |
| 18:57.41 | EvilSporkMan | SimonRaven: I'm pretty sure I'm using testing...I have testing pinned at 1050 and unstable at 0050; finally just synched and updated with marillat unstable, though |
| 18:57.52 | agilman | EvilSporkMan, I have a problem where I can't startx :( |
| 18:57.52 | EvilSporkMan | dondelelcaro: what package should i check? xorg-xserver? |
| 18:57.57 | goccia | dondelelcaro: being debian the top it should get the best :) |
| 18:58.05 | abrotman | bucky: 75mb .. wihtout dictionaries |
| 18:58.14 | EvilSporkMan | er, xserver-xorg |
| 18:58.16 | dondelelcaro | EvilSporkMan: your window manager, generally. |
| 18:58.16 | bucky | ok |
| 18:58.33 | thc | ok, do you guys think i even need a swap if i'm running 2 gigs of ddr400? my current desktop only has 1 gig of regular sdram and i don't think the swap has ever even been used. |
| 18:58.39 | abrotman | bucky: meant beardy |
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| 18:58.46 | abrotman | bucky: go back to sleep :) |
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| 18:58.50 | SimonRaven | thc: swap is useful even on lotsa ram |
| 18:58.51 | thc | also, can't i just use a swap file if i decide i do need a swap? |
| 18:58.55 | EvilSporkMan | dondelelcaro: the problem occurs with both GNOME and openbox |
| 18:58.57 | bucky | OOo has an Access replacement now |
| 18:58.58 | thc | alright |
| 18:59.01 | SimonRaven | thc: sure |
| 18:59.10 | beardy | thc: You always have too little ram, sooner or later :) |
| 18:59.17 | SimonRaven | indeed |
| 18:59.28 | thc | yeah, but i wanted to make one big 300 gig / partition! |
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| 18:59.45 | bucky | EvilSporkMan, in xorg ? |
| 18:59.47 | thc | now i have to make it 299.5 |
| 18:59.53 | SimonRaven | make a swap file or 2 then. like 128 mb won't hurt anything |
| 18:59.58 | beardy | thc: It's not going to be exactly 300 GB anyway, so have a swap partition. |
| 19:00.05 | dondelelcaro | EvilSporkMan: well, look for a bug against your window managers and/or the X server. I personally haven't seen it myself. |
| 19:00.07 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 19:00.08 | thc | beardy: i know, i was kidding |
| 19:00.23 | thc | i don't usually make one big / anyway |
| 19:00.33 | EvilSporkMan | bucky: yes, but i didn't just switch to xorg |
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| 19:00.40 | SimonRaven | too easy to dos the box with the logs... |
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| 19:01.02 | bucky | EvilSporkMan, you have "driver "kbd" for your keyboard? |
| 19:01.04 | agilman | I installed debian last night, but I cant startx, could someone take a look at it over SSH ? |
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| 19:01.12 | SimonRaven | no |
| 19:01.15 | beardy | !ask |
| 19:01.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 19:01.19 | beardy | agilman: No |
| 19:01.22 | SimonRaven | @tell sirmin -about root |
| 19:01.27 | EvilSporkMan | bucky: no, driver "keyboard" |
| 19:01.41 | dpower | agilman: haha are you fat or just lazy? |
| 19:01.43 | bucky | try the other.. might work |
| 19:01.53 | dondelelcaro | dpower: that's totally uncalled for. |
| 19:01.58 | thc | agilman: 1) check X log for errors 2) reconfigure X |
| 19:02.00 | SimonRaven | dpower: uh, wtf? |
| 19:02.02 | beardy | agilman: Don't allow anyone but yourself into your box. And absolutely not as root. |
| 19:02.06 | bucky | EvilSporkMan, and you know about /msg dpkg x md5sum |
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| 19:02.13 | dpower | yes? |
| 19:02.15 | agilman | beardy, it doesn't bother me much |
| 19:02.23 | beardy | agilman: It should. |
| 19:02.36 | dpower | lighten up |
| 19:02.45 | SimonRaven | wasn't funny |
| 19:02.51 | dpower | k |
| 19:03.07 | beardy | No, it wasn't. |
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| 19:03.10 | dpower | k |
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| 19:03.24 | EvilSporkMan | bucky: I know it exists but i need the refresher...i'll let you know how it works in a sec |
| 19:03.40 | beardy | You are on the other hand lazy, what's so hard about typing a "O" before the "k"? |
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| 19:03.58 | dpower | no im just fat |
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| 19:04.23 | Nuevo | Alguien habla español |
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| 19:04.26 | beardy | !es |
| 19:04.26 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:05.22 | Nuevo | Hola, necesito algo de ayuda |
| 19:05.22 | SimonRaven | *sigh*, back to this giant diff |
| 19:05.37 | beardy | Nuevo: /join #debian-es |
| 19:05.44 | bucky | EvilSporkMan, when you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did you put altwin:meta_alt for keyboard options? |
| 19:05.55 | Samooka | could anyone hint me as to where do those "Warning: xxx font renderer already registered at priority 0" come from? |
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| 19:06.30 | ELM | hy there, does somebody print stuff on a windows printer from debian? |
| 19:06.53 | dpower | ELM: /msg dpkg poll |
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| 19:07.34 | cockroach | what happened to the openoffice hyphenation packages? are they really gone? or just replaced by something i can't seem to find? |
| 19:07.46 | bucky | EvilSporkMan, when you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did you put altwin:meta_alt and altwin:meta_win for keyboard options? |
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| 19:08.03 | sirmin | parado. have sound under user and no sound under root.. |
| 19:08.12 | sirmin | paradox. have sound under user and no sound under root.. |
| 19:08.29 | EvilSporkMan | bucky: no |
| 19:08.45 | beardy | sirmin: root doesn't need sound. |
| 19:08.53 | bucky | EvilSporkMan, that's why your alt and meta keys don't work |
| 19:09.02 | sirmin | but it was! |
| 19:09.16 | EvilSporkMan | bucky: they work fine...that's not the problem. i'm having very weird focus issues that developed "overnight" |
| 19:09.19 | sirmin | you wanna say root doesn't need some music? |
| 19:09.27 | ELM | dpower, sorry, so i cant use that channel to get help? |
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| 19:09.54 | beardy | sirmin: Yes. You play music as a user. And if you have to be root for a short while, hea can listen to that. |
| 19:09.55 | bucky | EvilSporkMan, did you apt-get upgrade ? is that what changed? |
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| 19:10.11 | EvilSporkMan | bucky: i did after i saw the problem in hopes that that would fix it |
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| 19:10.17 | EvilSporkMan | i also apt-get upgraded yesterday |
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| 19:10.22 | bucky | hmm dunno |
| 19:10.32 | sirmin | beardy: it seems you're right. |
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| 19:10.48 | cockroach | ELM: yes you can, you just need to ask a specific question |
| 19:10.50 | EvilSporkMan | yesterday i finally updated marillat unstable...i'm on testing amd64 but marillat unstable, but that shouldn't take core X packages off of testing |
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| 19:10.59 | goccia | root must have sound : wtf it will check ? |
| 19:11.12 | beardy | sirmin: (Allthough, I have never heard of that before, always the other way around, that sound only works for root, and not users.) |
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| 19:11.19 | goccia | who stole root sound ? |
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| 19:11.29 | goccia | a mole ? |
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| 19:11.38 | beardy | a badger |
| 19:11.41 | goccia | ahahahah |
| 19:11.44 | sussudio | badger? |
| 19:11.49 | EvilSporkMan | beardy: but it's mole day |
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| 19:12.13 | EvilSporkMan | argh...my system is nearly unusable because of this ;_; |
| 19:12.15 | beardy | It is? What does that mean? |
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| 19:12.41 | EvilSporkMan | beardy: you know avogadro's number = 6.022 * 10**23? today is 10/23 and mole day begins at 6:02 AM |
| 19:12.58 | EvilSporkMan | at least in america...it probably makes less sense in europe |
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| 19:13.20 | deadcat | SimonRaven: oo.org 2.0 BETTTER be good. costing me 231MB |
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| 19:13.37 | SimonRaven | yikes |
| 19:13.40 | EvilSporkMan | deadcat: that's like 25 cents...you get what you pay for =P |
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| 19:13.45 | beardy | EvilSporkMan: Ah. But what does that have to do with moles exactly (the little animals that dig tunnels and have large shovel-hands?) |
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| 19:13.59 | deadcat | EvilSporkMan: what are you hi? |
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| 19:14.00 | ELM | cockroach, like this: i installed samba/foomatic/gnome-cups-manager, gnome-cups-manager finds the windows-printer, but when i say "install driver" no printer will be added in the gnome cups manager, can smb help? |
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| 19:14.06 | EvilSporkMan | beardy: nothing to do with animals, everything to do with moles in chemistry |
| 19:14.16 | EvilSporkMan | deadcat: big hard drives are $1/gig or less |
| 19:14.21 | beardy | EvilSporkMan: Oh, that mole, hehe :) |
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| 19:14.54 | EvilSporkMan | i hate when people have nicks that resemble my root password :X |
| 19:15.00 | Cyphur | Hey a quick question |
| 19:15.02 | rudenstam | lol |
| 19:15.08 | deadcat | EvilSporkMan: oh. not that. i just didnt think oowriter is that freakin big. it requires stuff like bsh, java-common and shits |
| 19:15.13 | Cyphur | How do I look back at all the text that is displayed when linux loads |
| 19:15.22 | EvilSporkMan | Cyphur: dmesg | less |
| 19:15.25 | cockroach | ELM: sorry, i have no idea about gnome-cups-manager and haven't used samba for ages - i would however suggest using the "normal" cups interface at http://localhost:631 |
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| 19:15.29 | Cyphur | na dmesg doesnt give you everything |
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| 19:15.44 | goccia | avogadro : nowdays people think is a caribbean fruit not a old chap european mathematician |
| 19:15.47 | Cyphur | just device related stuff etc |
| 19:15.47 | cahoot | Cyphur: you need enable bootlogd |
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| 19:16.05 | cahoot | Cyphur: look in /etc/default |
| 19:16.13 | Cyphur | ahh cheers |
| 19:16.19 | Cyphur | thanks cahoot |
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| 19:16.58 | sussudio | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 4464 Nov 26 2004 boot < Piggy hasn't booted in a while. |
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| 19:17.07 | Cyphur | Hmm I wonder if guild wars is going to wrk in wine :) |
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| 19:17.27 | EvilSporkMan | i guess i'll describe my focus problem again since it's been long enough...it seems that focus is getting "stuck" on individual GTK widgets in X. For example, it sometimes sticks on text boxes, and then I can type freely, the cursor is that little I-bar, and i can't get focus to change to another portion of a window. If it gets stuck in a text view, clicking and dragging anywhere on the screen highlights the text in the view, and t |
| 19:17.34 | EvilSporkMan | s/moves/scrolls |
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| 19:18.02 | EvilSporkMan | i am on testing amd64 with marillat unstable and the problem exists in both GNOME and openbox |
| 19:18.39 | goccia | marillat will be next pope for sure |
| 19:18.42 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 19:18.54 | Gnea | !amd64 |
| 19:18.54 | dpkg | [amd64] See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 19:19.02 | thc | EvilSporkMan: stupid question: why are you running marillat's sid packages on an etch system? |
| 19:19.04 | EvilSporkMan | also, clicking and dragging windows by the title bar fails |
| 19:19.21 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: so if it's unstable, then that means it should work? |
| 19:19.23 | EvilSporkMan | thc: at least at one point there were codecs only available under sid |
| 19:19.28 | thc | ah. |
| 19:19.40 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: Xorg et al. are not in marillat; thus they should not be affected |
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| 19:20.00 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: i wouldn't consider marillat to be a solid source these days. |
| 19:20.03 | zero-1 | hello |
| 19:20.08 | thc | hi! |
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| 19:20.25 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: that's irrelevant to basic X problems |
| 19:20.36 | Cyphur | Hey cahoot how do you enable it on startup? |
| 19:20.39 | en1gma | i just did a base install only (and a few other packages like build-essential gpm bzip2) i got a couple Qs: 1st how do i use aptitude to ONLY install X? the last few times i installed X it installs GNOME and alot of other crap too |
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| 19:20.42 | zero-1 | excuse me I have jre 1.5 but when i try to run limewire it says it cant fins a valid jre and i should update to 1.4.x or newer, what can ido? |
| 19:20.42 | Cyphur | its exactly waht I was looking for |
| 19:20.46 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: actually it's quite relevent, if you're using the software from that site |
| 19:20.46 | cahoot | Cyphur: look in /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 19:20.47 | EvilSporkMan | well...how do i get a list of recently upgraded packages? |
| 19:21.04 | Gnea | apt-get update |
| 19:21.06 | Gnea | apt-get upgrade |
| 19:21.10 | Gnea | then read the list |
| 19:21.15 | valdyn | en1gma: aptitude install x-window-system-core |
| 19:21.25 | Cyphur | hmm there is no such directory :) |
| 19:21.25 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: yes, and basic X software is not from that site. thus, i am not using the software from that site immediately after typing startx |
| 19:21.33 | en1gma | where is that located? in the "X" directory? |
| 19:21.33 | valdyn | en1gma: and DONT install all packages from the X11 section, that is nonsense for any section |
| 19:21.41 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: then why did you mention marillat in the first place? |
| 19:21.43 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: i meant recently installed packages...upgraded on my system |
| 19:21.55 | valdyn | en1gma: yea, probably, i dont use that UI |
| 19:22.02 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: in the interest of providing as much information as possible? |
| 19:22.12 | bobstay | (why is apt-get trying to remove hotplug? I *need* hotplug... I didn't ask it to remove it.. I asked it to dist-upgrade... grr...) |
| 19:22.14 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: further, you claim this is on an amd64 system? |
| 19:22.19 | EvilSporkMan | it's possible there's some issue where it pulls in awfully broken packages |
| 19:22.32 | valdyn | en1gma: never every try to install a complete section ( or directory as you call it ) |
| 19:22.32 | en1gma | ok 1 more Q i want to test my net connection from cli? is there a links or lynx or something similar on cd1 |
| 19:22.37 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: yes, but generally 64-bit only problems involve crashes, not odd behavior |
| 19:22.37 | beardy | en1gma: / to search in aptitude |
| 19:22.46 | cockroach | EvilSporkMan: why don't you just remove all the packages from marillat and check if it's still broken? |
| 19:22.49 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: then you didn't read the announcement |
| 19:22.52 | en1gma | ahhh like in menuconfig |
| 19:22.54 | Gnea | !tell EvilSporkMan about amd64 |
| 19:22.59 | en1gma | "/" will remember that |
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| 19:23.06 | Gnea | thank you |
| 19:23.13 | beardy | en1gma: also in less |
| 19:23.19 | cahoot | Cyphur: this is a sarge system |
| 19:23.27 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: I don't follow...I've been on AMD64 since June or July and i've certainly seen that text. what's your point? |
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| 19:23.47 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: i just saw you join the proper channel. |
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| 19:23.50 | en1gma | beardy & jim that ncurses5-dev i dloaded fixed that prob |
| 19:23.51 | Cyphur | cahoot: testingtastic :) |
| 19:23.52 | en1gma | thanks |
| 19:24.04 | beardy | en1gma: Great. np. |
| 19:24.11 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: I thought maybe it was in topic there. Being on AMD64 doesn't automatically mean all my problems are AMD64-specific |
| 19:24.13 | en1gma | what about a cli web browser? no links or lynx on cd1? |
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| 19:24.25 | Cyphur | cahoot: Just thought I should probably clean out some applications that I no longer need etc that run on bootup |
| 19:24.27 | beardy | en1gma: Should be. |
| 19:24.28 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: actually, it does automatically meaen that. |
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| 19:24.43 | beardy | en1gma: Try to install them, and you'll know. |
| 19:24.48 | en1gma | ok will check within aptitude with /links and /lynx |
| 19:24.53 | en1gma | i did try |
| 19:24.54 | Gnea | EvilSporkMan: now you can ask away there, or you can continue wasting time trying to argue yourself into a gutter here. |
| 19:24.59 | en1gma | it didnt instal |
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| 19:25.18 | cahoot | Cyphur: it's part of initscripts - so would be there if not removed by force |
| 19:25.20 | en1gma | thats why i was thinking maybe deb used another similar app |
| 19:25.22 | beardy | en1gma: Then there isn't, which is bad IMHO. |
| 19:25.31 | en1gma | omg mine too |
| 19:25.41 | beardy | (On cd1 that is) |
| 19:25.42 | en1gma | kde and gnome should be on cd2 |
| 19:25.43 | Cyphur | cahoot: Oh ok interesting Ill have a peek |
| 19:25.52 | EvilSporkMan | Gnea: fine, but I'll bet you $5 it's entirely unrelated to arch. |
| 19:25.58 | en1gma | imho |
| 19:26.16 | valdyn | en1gma: applications are on CDX in order of usage |
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| 19:26.34 | valdyn | en1gma: /msg dpkg popcon for info in how that is determined |
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| 19:26.38 | en1gma | yea its all alphabatized isnt it |
| 19:26.45 | en1gma | oh ppl vote |
| 19:26.48 | valdyn | en1gma: no, usage |
| 19:26.48 | en1gma | i seen that b4 i think |
| 19:26.51 | en1gma | ahhh |
| 19:26.57 | en1gma | well thats pretty good idea |
| 19:27.00 | valdyn | en1gma: not votes, just usage |
| 19:27.02 | beardy | en1gma: Download elinks-lite and install same way as you did libncurses5-dev. |
| 19:27.04 | Cyphur | Bootlogd is located in /etc/de but wheres the log file stored man doenst appear to say :0 |
| 19:27.06 | zvn | is 8 MByte/sec adequate throughput for a 100Mbit/s LAN link? |
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| 19:27.10 | Cyphur | bootlogd: cannot find console device 136:1 in /dev |
| 19:27.12 | Cyphur | when I run it |
| 19:27.14 | en1gma | ok going to go get it now |
| 19:27.16 | en1gma | :) |
| 19:27.22 | beardy | en1gma: It has only libc6 and debconf as depends. |
| 19:27.28 | en1gma | nice |
| 19:27.35 | EvilSporkMan | i have chkrootkit and xsupplicant installed (on an x86 box) and chkrootkit has been insisting for a long time that xsupplicant is a "PACKET SNIFFER". should I be concerned? |
| 19:27.38 | en1gma | i think those might be installed already |
| 19:27.39 | en1gma | maybe |
| 19:27.45 | beardy | en1gma: They are. |
| 19:27.56 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Go and read the chkrootkit documentation on false positives. |
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| 19:28.50 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: thanks, looks good to me. is xsupplicant not being listed as a legitimate sniffer bugworthy? |
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| 19:29.06 | valdyn | zvn: yes |
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| 19:29.30 | en1gma | had to grab "lynx" too :) |
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| 19:29.58 | en1gma | is fluxbox on cd1? |
| 19:30.06 | en1gma | i hope |
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| 19:30.36 | clojster | hi, I'm on Etch. I did upgrade of packages through Synaptic and when it was setting up the lm-sensors, it hung up. So I did restart of the machine and now when I try to do "apt-get upgrade", it says: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. But his command wants to set lm-sensors again and again it hungs up... What can I do now? |
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| 19:31.16 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 19:31.16 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 19:31.23 | Gnea | clojster: try apt-get remove lm-sensors |
| 19:31.30 | clojster | Gnea: ok |
| 19:31.47 | clojster | Gnea: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
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| 19:31.50 | en1gma | ok bbiab "im going in" |
| 19:31.50 | clojster | the same thing |
| 19:32.00 | clojster | I can't use apt-get now |
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| 19:32.10 | Gnea | oi |
| 19:32.21 | kenboo | clojster, how about apt-get -f install |
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| 19:32.38 | clojster | kenboo: ok |
| 19:32.43 | alexey | how-to use jidgo ? any docs? |
| 19:32.52 | beardy | !jigdo |
| 19:32.53 | dpkg | jigdo is probably *the* method for downloading CD/DVD images of Debian. at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ or http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/index.html |
| 19:32.58 | sids_mom | I want 3d accel support for my nvidia/gf6800 sid box...so I can play true combat elite...I found this website... http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php .. but I don't see any step by step guide on the site...anyone know of a good guide? |
| 19:33.14 | beardy | !nvidia |
| 19:33.14 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia was DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 19:33.16 | alexey | thanks |
| 19:33.19 | clojster | kenboo: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 19:33.23 | cheal | !tell sids_mom about nvidia-howto |
| 19:33.27 | clojster | kenboo: again the samt thing |
| 19:33.34 | kenboo | um, ok sorry |
| 19:33.37 | clojster | I cant use it :( |
| 19:34.15 | pumpkin0 | how can i find out the cpu-voltage (PentiumM, so it changes over time) ? would lmsensors work ? |
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| 19:35.29 | kenboo | spam bot ? |
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| 19:35.48 | happy_broccoli | ping |
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| 19:37.02 | sussudio | 85.96.0.0/12 needs to be banned |
| 19:37.07 | kenboo | ya |
| 19:37.14 | kenboo | 85.* :P |
| 19:37.21 | sussudio | no, some are not ttnet. |
| 19:37.24 | nvz | I think them dumb sob's had me on speakerphone I could hear myself talking it was annoying |
| 19:37.34 | sussudio | 85.96.0.0/12 = 85.96.0.0-86.111.255.255 |
| 19:37.48 | nvz | nothing like listening to a yinzer repeating the same things you say |
| 19:37.51 | kenboo | uh ic |
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| 19:38.49 | nicedreams | any chance they will add the new xmame version to the repositories? |
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| 19:39.19 | nvz | !maint xmame |
| 19:39.33 | humbolt | assuming I want to compile an imagemagick version by hand. how do I find out what -dev libs ... it depends on? |
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| 19:39.51 | nvz | xmame doesnt exist in the repository so unless you become a maintainer and maintain it then, no |
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| 19:39.56 | nvz | !info xmess |
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| 19:40.20 | nicedreams | nvz, how you find these keywords to use? |
| 19:40.24 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: I don't know. Is chkrootkit not spewing warnings about how it is not a very useful tool bugworthy |
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| 19:40.38 | nvz | nicedreams: what keywords? |
| 19:40.45 | nicedreams | nvz, the !info and stuff |
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| 19:40.52 | cheal | nicedreams: no. if Debian didn't do something 1 day after it became possible, it means it will never be done |
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| 19:41.15 | nicedreams | wow...can't beleive they don't support xmame |
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| 19:41.18 | nvz | nicedreams: those arent keywords they are blootbot commands |
| 19:41.27 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: nah |
| 19:41.34 | nicedreams | nvz, how do i find those then? |
| 19:41.47 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Why not? |
| 19:41.54 | cheal | nvz: he's talking about the source package |
| 19:42.05 | nvz | !maint xmame-x |
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| 19:42.07 | dpkg | xmame-x: Bruno Barrera C. <bruno@debian.org> |
| 19:42.16 | nvz | !maint xmess-x |
| 19:42.17 | dpkg | xmess-x: Bruno Barrera C. <bruno@debian.org> |
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| 19:42.24 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: hmm...good question. I guess something to the effect of "this package sucks" could stand to come up at install time |
| 19:42.43 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: It doesn't suck. But you shouldn't treat its output as canonical and/or true. |
| 19:42.48 | nicedreams | i guess i'll find a deb package for xmame then |
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| 19:43.09 | nvz | nicedreams: Bruno Barrera C. <bruno@debian.org> maintains both xmame and xmess |
| 19:43.20 | nvz | !info xmame-x |
| 19:43.24 | nicedreams | nvz, what do I do then? email him? |
| 19:43.24 | dpkg | xmame-x: (X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator), section non-free/games, is optional. Version: 0.100-1 (sid), Packaged size: 9190 kB, Installed size: 35756 kB |
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| 19:43.45 | alexey | OK, I have read about jigdo. It seems to be standardc-client-server technology, but supporting versions updates, right? It's not a P2P technology like Kazaa. |
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| 19:43.56 | nvz | nicedreams: is there a newer version of xmame than the one he's packaged? |
| 19:44.23 | nicedreams | the one I have is 89 and it's at 1.something now and I want to play my new roms |
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| 19:44.58 | nicedreams | i'm sorry it's at 86-1 that I have |
| 19:45.04 | thc | nicedreams: testing/unstable both have xmame-x 0.100-1 |
| 19:45.05 | nicedreams | and want 1.0 at least |
| 19:45.12 | BrutusUnix | how is debian with G5? I want to dual boot linux and Mac |
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| 19:45.16 | nvz | nicedreams: no, actually current in debian is 0.100-1 and the current upstream is 0.101 as of 20051022 |
| 19:45.17 | cheal | nicedreams: do *not* email him |
| 19:45.30 | nvz | nicedreams: there is no 1.0 |
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| 19:46.22 | nicedreams | damn...i forgot I used ubuntu on this and not debian. arg....i forgot about that. I went to ubuntu really quick because they have mythtv in their repositories and i forgot I took debian off....looks about the same from the command line. :) |
| 19:46.26 | cheal | nicedreams: Debian usually packages what upstream authors do. it does not release new versions of upstream software |
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| 19:46.31 | thc | jesus christ. |
| 19:46.37 | nicedreams | my bad all |
| 19:46.40 | thc | *plonk* |
| 19:46.52 | nicedreams | i'm debian with my other pcs though that's why i forgot |
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| 19:47.39 | nicedreams | i'll check the ubuntu channel |
| 19:47.39 | cheal | heh |
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| 19:47.50 | EdLin | hmmm |
| 19:48.07 | alexey | Is there Jidgo client software for non-Linux systems ? (i.e. Mac or Windows) |
| 19:48.18 | EdLin | alexey: there's one for Windows |
| 19:48.19 | deadcat | maybe |
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| 19:49.28 | nvz | nicedreams: not to mention I am looking at the changelogs upstream from 0.89 - 0.101 and there arent any real important chages that could effect whatever you are whining about. mostly joystic code, and minor UI fixes and a few OpenGL and SVGAlib patches. nothing that really effects the ability to play certain roms |
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| 19:50.38 | nicedreams | nvz, that works then...I'm just trying to get freevo to work better since mythtv seems kind of lame unless you use the TIVO type part of it. I'm using Freevo for my dvd/divx/games |
| 19:50.58 | nicedreams | thx for the help though |
| 19:50.59 | pumpkin0 | how can i find out the cpu-voltage (PentiumM, so it changes over time) ? would lmsensors work ? |
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| 19:52.23 | SimonRaven | pumpkin0: probably |
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| 19:52.27 | thc | pumpkin0: lm-sensors will show cpu temp as long as your kernel supports it |
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| 19:52.51 | thc | mind you it's in celsius though, which still confuses me |
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| 19:53.14 | bbrazil | thc: you should be able to change that |
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| 19:53.19 | nvz | whats that got to do with the price of tean in china? |
| 19:53.19 | pumpkin0 | thc: temperature is not a problem, i need volt... |
| 19:53.30 | thc | bbrazil: probably yeah, but i don't use it enough to be bothered |
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| 19:53.44 | thc | pumpkin0: lm-sensors shows cpu voltage as well |
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| 19:54.08 | pumpkin0 | thc: OK, testing it right now. thx & bye |
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| 19:54.24 | kenboo | pumpkin0, install lm-sensors with i2c module. and run sensors-detect |
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| 19:54.52 | kenboo | it may or may not get you voltage info |
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| 19:55.17 | nvz | yeah you can change it, multiply by 9/5 and add 32 |
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| 19:55.39 | EvilSporkMan | nvz: no no no...double it and add 30 =P |
| 19:55.39 | pumpkin0 | kenboo: hmm. i need to recompile my kernel to get lmsensors working. That sucks big time, as the kernel is patched beyond hope... |
| 19:55.42 | thc | kenboo: that why i said it depends on his kernel, i don't think i2c works with the 2.4 kernels without a patch |
| 19:56.04 | pumpkin0 | thc: it was 2.6.11. |
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| 19:56.12 | thc | should be fine then |
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| 19:56.31 | liberty | could always read the actual voltage with a meter, Stab the wires with pins |
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| 19:56.46 | nvz | EvilSporkMan: too bad that puts you off by like 18 unless you are converting 0C |
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| 19:57.04 | thc | liberty: why do that when one command outputs all the info together? |
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| 19:58.08 | wetlettuce | [xixor] Hello! |
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| 19:58.24 | xixor | wetlettuce, : hey, whats up eh? |
| 19:58.39 | en1gma | when i run aptitude i get an error saying "couldnt lock cache file" |
| 19:58.42 | en1gma | what is this |
| 19:59.00 | cheal | en1gma: are you root? |
| 19:59.06 | sids_mom | I checked this website for sid/nvidia binary kernel modules... http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/modules-unstable/i386/ and I did uname -r ( 2.6.8-2-386 ) is what I got...but I'm not sure which package I want from this website. |
| 19:59.09 | wetlettuce | xixor: Fighting with build enviros on win and finding out why the code doesn't compile without -g |
| 19:59.09 | en1gma | yea im root |
| 19:59.11 | sids_mom | Anyone know? |
| 19:59.22 | cheal | en1gma: do you have other aptitude-s running? |
| 19:59.32 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 19:59.32 | dpkg | methinks nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 19:59.33 | xixor | wetlettuce: ahh.. Yeah, I can't figure it out either |
| 19:59.37 | en1gma | i do it after a fresh reboot |
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| 19:59.59 | wetlettuce | xixor: You don't initialise your variables! |
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| 20:00.06 | xixor | wetlettuce: my bad |
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| 20:00.10 | cheal | sids_mom: none of them will work for your kernel |
| 20:00.18 | en1gma | i cant install anything cause its in read only mode |
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| 20:00.21 | sids_mom | abrotman: I am using xorg |
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| 20:00.25 | xixor | wetlettuce, : I was hoping the compiler would warn me of trivial thigns like that |
| 20:00.29 | sids_mom | cheal: k, thanks |
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| 20:00.35 | abrotman | sids_mom: and? |
| 20:00.36 | en1gma | i had done an updatedb would that mess it up |
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| 20:00.48 | sids_mom | abrotman: That one-liner shows xfree86 specific commands |
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| 20:01.02 | wetlettuce | xixor: I think it's mostly from when you create new classes I believe. |
| 20:01.07 | abrotman | sids_mom: do you think maybe it works for xorg too ? |
| 20:01.10 | m1tn1ck | how can i format a disk drive? which command? |
| 20:01.15 | sids_mom | yes |
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| 20:01.21 | abrotman | sids_mom: so you might try it ? |
| 20:01.21 | sids_mom | But if I was stupid, I would have broken shit |
| 20:01.31 | en1gma | also how do i do a real format not the quick one whe i do a fresh isntall with the installer app |
| 20:01.32 | sids_mom | I could have enabled xfree86 |
| 20:01.41 | xixor | wetlettuce: and then push them back onto std::vectors? |
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| 20:02.13 | xixor | wetlettuce: that would be a problem in the class's construtor then eh? |
| 20:02.28 | sids_mom | E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 20:02.32 | wetlettuce | xixor: The crash in C_3dmodel is caused because material is not initalised in User3dFace |
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| 20:02.46 | sids_mom | abrotman: What is the kernel-headers package name for sid? |
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| 20:02.50 | sids_mom | It's not listed in apt-cache |
| 20:02.58 | abrotman | sids_mom: uname -a |
| 20:03.03 | abrotman | what kenrel are you using ? |
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| 20:03.14 | xixor | wetlettuce: yeah, I thought that could be happening |
| 20:03.20 | sids_mom | linux-kernel-headers? |
| 20:03.24 | wetlettuce | xixor: Then you use it in RenderImmediate to index into m_material |
| 20:03.29 | sids_mom | Linux debian 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:03.48 | resiak | en1gma: "real format"? |
| 20:03.53 | abrotman | sids_mom: you probably want a newer kernel too .. but apt-cache search linux-headers and apt-cache search linux-image |
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| 20:04.25 | en1gma | 2Qs: 1stQ: why am i getting "couldnt lock cache file" when i run aptitude? 2ndQ: how do i do a "real" format when i do a fresh install of debian from within the installer where i pick my partitions and fs |
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| 20:05.05 | sids_mom | abrotman: Thanks for the help. |
| 20:05.10 | sids_mom | I'm going to reboot into linux-image-2.6.12-1-38 |
| 20:05.10 | abrotman | sids_mom: all make sense? |
| 20:05.14 | sids_mom | yea |
| 20:05.17 | abrotman | ok .. enjoy |
| 20:05.18 | sids_mom | I need new kernel for this to work. |
| 20:05.23 | abrotman | ok |
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| 20:05.31 | en1gma | dont forget about me |
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| 20:05.40 | xixor | wetlettuce: yeah, I figured that was going on, I was hoping that that woudl all work, that material thing was a hack after I first used the model class and got it going |
| 20:05.43 | resiak | en1gma: "real format"? |
| 20:05.56 | en1gma | not the quick format it does i want the slow format |
| 20:05.58 | resiak | en1gma: And because you aren't root or are running another aptitude elsewhere |
| 20:05.58 | bobstay | ... ok, why in holy **** does installing hotplug remove gnome (unstable branch...) |
| 20:06.05 | resiak | en1gma: What are you talking about? |
| 20:06.07 | en1gma | that wipes the data not just the dir |
| 20:06.18 | resiak | bobstay: Because Sid is unstable |
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| 20:06.27 | Gokee2 | Hey all I did some type uf upgrade I think and now debian is useing xorg.conf instead of XF86config-4.... Anyone know whats up with this? Is xorg better? I still don`t know as much as I should about linux. Please help! :) |
| 20:06.29 | bobstay | resiak: so it would seem. |
| 20:06.33 | Gokee2 | of* |
| 20:06.42 | abrotman | bobstay: i'd guess hotplug conflicts with udev which hal requires which gnome requires |
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| 20:06.53 | abrotman | bobstay: apt-cache show hotplug |
| 20:06.53 | en1gma | Gokee2 run fglrxconfig again |
| 20:06.54 | Gokee2 | And xorg thing seems to fail every few min |
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| 20:07.08 | bobstay | abrotman: that would make sense - it did remove hal too. Does udev provide similar functionality? |
| 20:07.10 | Gokee2 | fglrxconfig? |
| 20:07.13 | Gokee2 | ok.... |
| 20:07.19 | wetlettuce | [xixor] I've put the default flags into the configure script again but am forcing -g until I can go through and work through all of the variable inits. |
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| 20:07.22 | abrotman | bobstay: depends who you ask :) |
| 20:07.23 | en1gma | it used the -4 |
| 20:07.31 | thc | wtf is fglrxconfing ?? |
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| 20:07.43 | en1gma | ati driver configurator |
| 20:07.48 | thc | Gokee2: which are you running, xfree86 or xorg? |
| 20:07.58 | Gokee2 | en1gma, fglrxconfig says command not found |
| 20:08.02 | xixor | wetlettuce: I sort of dropped it.. because it works with -g, I wanted to plod on with the development, so I am working on doing spherical interpolation of quaternions to get the C_entity class objects to hunt each other down |
| 20:08.06 | resiak | en1gma: You probably want to use dd to copy /dev/random onto your disk. but why do you want to do that? |
| 20:08.07 | Gokee2 | thc, I WAS running xfree86 |
| 20:08.08 | en1gma | fglrxconf* |
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| 20:08.13 | thc | Gokee2: ignore that command. |
| 20:08.17 | wetlettuce | [xixor] BTW I can run the code on windows, compiling using mingw :-) |
| 20:08.22 | Gokee2 | It seems to have changed or something |
| 20:08.29 | Gokee2 | thc, Ignor what? |
| 20:08.31 | thc | Gokee2: and you are sure you're in xorg now? do X -version |
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| 20:08.33 | Gokee2 | Ignore* |
| 20:08.38 | xixor | wetlettuce, : does it run?? |
| 20:08.44 | wetlettuce | [xixor] Yep. |
| 20:08.45 | en1gma | cause i noticed when i did a fresh isntall something were carried over from the previous install believe it or not |
| 20:08.57 | xixor | wetlettuce: You know what, when I sent you that compile script for g++/cygwin, I didn't have -g on it.. so that could be why I couldn't get it to run |
| 20:09.02 | xixor | awesome |
| 20:09.06 | Gokee2 | er |
| 20:09.13 | xixor | wetlettuce: you think its alright so far? |
| 20:09.13 | en1gma | do u have an ATI card |
| 20:09.20 | Gokee2 | I don`t see eathe in X -version |
| 20:09.25 | bobstay | abrotman: thanks, I'll look into making udev work... |
| 20:09.32 | thc | what? |
| 20:09.34 | en1gma | Gokee2 whats ur vcard |
| 20:09.38 | abrotman | bobstay: ok |
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| 20:09.39 | abrotman | !ur |
| 20:09.39 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
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| 20:09.47 | Gokee2 | en1gma, G fource 2 |
| 20:09.51 | wetlettuce | xixor: Looks good so far, runs just as under linux. However, if you press the fire button too much it crashes :-( |
| 20:09.52 | abrotman | en1gma: do you always speak like a moron? |
| 20:10.02 | xixor | wetlettuce: ahh yes, someone else toldme that as well |
| 20:10.03 | resiak | Gokee2: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 20:10.12 | thc | en1gma: he doesn't even have an ati graphics card. please stop addnig to the confusion. |
| 20:10.28 | en1gma | Gokee2 just run 'x86config' i think it is |
| 20:10.37 | resiak | en1gma: Please shut up |
| 20:10.37 | abrotman | NO |
| 20:10.40 | abrotman | en1gma: SHUT UP |
| 20:10.41 | resiak | !drxx Gokee2 |
| 20:10.44 | xixor | wetlettuce: well, the whole weapon manager C_WarManager was writtten very hastily, just to do it, and have something to work with. That is probably happening when a shot goes too far and is deleted |
| 20:10.44 | dpkg | Gokee2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:10.45 | thc | en1gma: STOP with you non-existant commands. |
| 20:10.45 | abrotman | stupid idiot |
| 20:10.46 | en1gma | he had it working already did u read that |
| 20:10.54 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about u |
| 20:11.01 | thc | en1gma: HE DOES NOT HAVE AN ATI CARD. |
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| 20:11.09 | thc | *plonk* |
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| 20:11.30 | wetlettuce | xixor: Probably I didn't look into it too much. I was more suprised that it was working! |
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| 20:11.43 | en1gma | lol |
| 20:11.46 | fuag155555 | i'm sorry to bug debian ppls about this, maybe you can point me to a better place to ask but i have a fairly simple question about anjuta |
| 20:11.46 | xixor | wetlettuce: yes, its pretty ugly. The objects delete themselves from within themseleves |
| 20:11.50 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about lol |
| 20:11.56 | fuag155555 | thier irc channel has 1 person idling in it |
| 20:12.00 | en1gma | Gokee2 'x' and hit tab 2x |
| 20:12.03 | abrotman | fuag155555: did you try irc.gnome.org ? |
| 20:12.03 | xixor | fuag155555: I use anjuta a little bit |
| 20:12.03 | EvilSporkMan | how do i list what packages are installed from unstable, or how do i list what packages were installed within the last 24 hours? |
| 20:12.14 | varsendagger | is there an easy way to install python2.4 and all the dependencies? |
| 20:12.15 | Gokee2 | en1gma, ? |
| 20:12.17 | en1gma | there will be 2 config files |
| 20:12.27 | en1gma | "x" tab tab |
| 20:12.30 | EvilSporkMan | varsendagger: how about apt-get install python2.4? |
| 20:12.35 | varsendagger | i've done apt-cache search but |
| 20:12.38 | Gokee2 | Nothing comes up... |
| 20:12.41 | cheal | EvilSporkMan: which dpkg do you have? |
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| 20:12.45 | resiak | Gokee2: Please ignore en1gma. Do as dpkg will tell you: |
| 20:12.45 | abrotman | en1gma: just stop |
| 20:12.47 | resiak | !drxx Gokee2 |
| 20:12.48 | dpkg | Gokee2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:12.49 | en1gma | do u see the x86 config files |
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| 20:12.54 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about u |
| 20:12.54 | Gokee2 | ok |
| 20:12.55 | thc | Gokee2: did you even read what dpkg told you? |
| 20:12.57 | EvilSporkMan | cheal: 1.13.11 |
| 20:12.58 | en1gma | there are 2 |
| 20:13.02 | Gokee2 | thc, Yes |
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| 20:13.05 | abrotman | Gokee2: it's become apparent that en1gma is a total idiot |
| 20:13.07 | fuag155555 | xixor: this is my first time trying to compile anything in tux and i'm use to compiling it then a console pops up with the output, however i wrote a simple hello world program in c++ with anjuta and it compiles fine, but can't find out how to get it to run or show any outbput :/ |
| 20:13.10 | cheal | EvilSporkMan: look at dpkg's logs |
| 20:13.10 | en1gma | you can use either config file |
| 20:13.12 | varsendagger | there are some weird brokend dependecies that are not availble form apt-get, put i can find the packages on debian |
| 20:13.15 | thc | !beer abrotman |
| 20:13.20 | en1gma | but i like the "config" one better |
| 20:13.32 | cheal | EvilSporkMan: apt-show-versions |
| 20:13.40 | xixor | wetlettuce: thanks for looking at it, email me any suggestions, or merge thing with the cvs if you want |
| 20:13.43 | pumpkin0 | thc: i have a ibm thinkpad. The big fat warning in the lm-sensors-package kind of stopped me... |
| 20:13.49 | Gokee2 | well en1gma More people think the other way is "right" so all do it that way |
| 20:13.54 | wetlettuce | xixor: will do. thx |
| 20:14.11 | thc | pumpkin0: something about acpi? |
| 20:14.12 | en1gma | thats ok bud |
| 20:14.22 | en1gma | just trying to help |
| 20:14.23 | resiak | ElectricElf: May I /msg you regarding this channel? |
| 20:14.45 | pumpkin0 | thc: no voltages. only temp and fan... |
| 20:14.45 | en1gma | ok so back to my prob if someone can help me with that |
| 20:14.46 | cheal | varsendagger: which broken deps? |
| 20:14.56 | resiak | en1gma: man dd; run aptitude as root; hth hand |
| 20:14.58 | en1gma | 2Qs: 1stQ: why am i getting "couldnt lock cache file" when i run aptitude? 2ndQ: how do i do a "real" format when i do a fresh install of debian from within the installer where i pick my partitions and fs |
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| 20:15.02 | xixor | wetlettuce: Just be aware, the parts I am working on right now are C_entity mainly, just working on the AI portion and trying that out |
| 20:15.03 | resiak | en1gma: man dd; run aptitude as root; hth hand |
| 20:15.06 | thc | pumpkin0: ugh. try gdesklets cpu temp. |
| 20:15.15 | resiak | en1gma: Why do you think that you need a "real" format? |
| 20:15.24 | en1gma | resiak im not sure what u mean...im always root in cli |
| 20:15.25 | abrotman | !dban |
| 20:15.25 | dpkg | it has been said that dban is http://dban.sf.net/ Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot floppy that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers. DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction. |
| 20:15.28 | abrotman | that's a real format :) |
| 20:15.32 | Gokee2 | Ok what dpkg says seems good but what about my computer seeming to switch to xorg? Will that be "fixed" too? |
| 20:15.35 | cheal | en1gma: which release? |
| 20:15.37 | wetlettuce | xixor: I'll steer clear of those for now. |
| 20:15.38 | thc | pumpkin0: the gdesklets cpu temp display relies on /proc/acpi though |
| 20:15.44 | abrotman | Gokee2: you don't like xorg ? |
| 20:15.45 | resiak | en1gma: You're probably running aptitude elsewhere already. Close the other instance of it. |
| 20:15.47 | cheal | Gokee2: : which release? |
| 20:15.50 | en1gma | why dont ppl just answer a q when u ask instead of trying to get u to use something else or pick ur brain |
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| 20:15.58 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about u |
| 20:15.58 | resiak | en1gma: I DID YOU FOOL |
| 20:16.00 | resiak | *plonk* |
| 20:16.02 | Gokee2 | abrotman, I don`t know I have never used xorg? |
| 20:16.03 | en1gma | resiak i did it on a fresh reboot |
| 20:16.12 | abrotman | Gokee2: but you have nvidia ? |
| 20:16.13 | Gokee2 | Is it "better"? |
| 20:16.18 | abrotman | Gokee2: it's the way forward |
| 20:16.19 | Gokee2 | abrotman, Yes |
| 20:16.25 | Gokee2 | Hmm |
| 20:16.32 | Gokee2 | So I should start useing it then? |
| 20:16.35 | abrotman | Gokee2: afaik .. every distro has/will abandon xfree |
| 20:16.40 | Gokee2 | Ok |
| 20:16.44 | abrotman | except maybe SCO :) |
| 20:16.56 | pumpkin0 | thc: i will try it anyway, eye-candy is always wellcome... |
| 20:17.08 | Gokee2 | What about XF86config is xorg config the about the same thing for xorg? |
| 20:17.08 | varsendagger | i am going form python to python 2.4 and it is complainging about |
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| 20:17.10 | varsendagger | dpkg: error processing python2.4-gnome2-extras_2.10.2-1_i386.deb (--install): |
| 20:17.10 | varsendagger | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:17.16 | loxley | guys, in what filed does xdm store what window manager to use? |
| 20:17.20 | loxley | file* |
| 20:17.23 | en1gma | XF86config <<<<<i use that one |
| 20:17.25 | en1gma | its the best one |
| 20:17.28 | abrotman | loxley: probably you want man update-alternatives |
| 20:17.35 | abrotman | en1gma: it's the WRONG one .. |
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| 20:17.42 | thc | Gokee2: when you install xserver-xorg your XF86Config-4 settings migrated into xorg.conf |
| 20:17.48 | en1gma | unless i use my ATI driver configurator which is fglrxconfig |
| 20:17.49 | loxley | abrotman: checking |
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| 20:17.56 | Gokee2 | thc, O I see |
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| 20:18.06 | cheal | en1gma: if you want to advocate breaking Debian installs, please do so at somewhere other than #debian |
| 20:18.07 | abrotman | thc: GeForce2 ? |
| 20:18.08 | Gokee2 | I think the problem is with nvieda |
| 20:18.12 | Gokee2 | Ya |
| 20:18.25 | abrotman | Gokee2: /msg dpkg nvidia-oneliner |
| 20:18.28 | thc | abrotman: i thought he was just asking about the upgrade from xfree86 -> xorg |
| 20:18.29 | Gokee2 | ok |
| 20:18.30 | abrotman | Gokee2: and isntead of xfree .. use xorg |
| 20:18.38 | Gokee2 | ok |
| 20:18.39 | abrotman | thc: nvidia sucks! |
| 20:18.44 | thc | indeed! |
| 20:18.49 | Gokee2 | Do I need to apt-get remove xfree86 or something? |
| 20:18.49 | en1gma | nvidia gf2 is good card with linux |
| 20:18.57 | thc | Gokee2: no. |
| 20:19.04 | Gokee2 | ok.. |
| 20:19.05 | en1gma | lol |
| 20:19.09 | en1gma | s3 pwnz |
| 20:19.13 | resiak | abrotman: s/an S3/acid/ |
| 20:19.16 | findmel | how do I autoload modules at boot time. I want to load a module. |
| 20:19.19 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about lol |
| 20:19.25 | resiak | findmel: add them to /etc/modules |
| 20:19.26 | en1gma | :O |
| 20:19.28 | dnagenie | dpkg |
| 20:19.30 | findmel | resiak, thanks |
| 20:19.33 | resiak | findmel: No problem. |
| 20:19.36 | loxley | abrotman: its like this.. i am running fluxbox and i want idesk to start before fluxbox does. |
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| 20:19.49 | abrotman | loxley: oh .. are you using startx or xdm ? |
| 20:19.55 | loxley | abrotman: xdm |
| 20:20.03 | findmel | resiak, if it is "xmod" i want to load do i just type xmod or do I say modprobe xmod |
| 20:20.05 | abrotman | loxley: you might be able to set .xsession to do that |
| 20:20.13 | en1gma | will someone for the love of god tell me how to get aptitude to stop being used by another proc |
| 20:20.13 | en1gma | on a fresh reboot |
| 20:20.14 | resiak | findmel: Look at what's already in there, and guess :) |
| 20:20.18 | abrotman | !tell loxley about xsession |
| 20:20.19 | findmel | resiak, ok |
| 20:20.20 | loxley | abrotman: okay, will do, thx :) |
| 20:20.20 | findmel | thanks |
| 20:20.21 | resiak | findmel: (but it's just the module name and one per line) |
| 20:20.52 | en1gma | ./etc/rc.d/rc.local = what in debian |
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| 20:20.56 | abrotman | loxley: makes sense |
| 20:21.00 | abrotman | !rc.local |
| 20:21.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, rc.local is the boot script for BSD/slackware/redhat systems but is considered to be a hack for lazy people. Use the sysvinit method via update-rc.d or read /etc/init.d/README or "man update-rc.d", "apt-get install rcconf", or try "sysvconfig", or /etc/rc.boot/ directory, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file and /etc/init.d/skeleton template. If you don't like SysV, consider file-rc. |
| 20:21.04 | abrotman | loxley: ?? |
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| 20:21.24 | dnagenie | has anyone done the sarge xfree-> xorg conversion? |
| 20:21.37 | thc | dnagenie: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
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| 20:21.46 | en1gma | !aptitude |
| 20:21.46 | dpkg | [aptitude] a powerful and flexible package manager which is not afraid to experiment with new ideas. http://aptitude.sourceforge.net, or 'apt-get install aptitude', or http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg11344.html. But be careful boys'n'grilfs: Bug# 299009 |
| 20:21.49 | Gokee2 | wth is "m-a a-i nvidia"? |
| 20:21.53 | resiak | Gokee2: A command |
| 20:22.02 | abrotman | Gokee2: part of module-assistant |
| 20:22.09 | Gokee2 | abrotman, ok ty |
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| 20:23.43 | en1gma | how can i find out what proc might be using aptitude when im at root in cli from a fresh reboot |
| 20:23.48 | dnagenie | i did this |
| 20:23.48 | en1gma | lsproc? |
| 20:23.59 | dnagenie | i'm curious how it went |
| 20:24.04 | Plekhov | does anyone know an easy trick or tool to find what directories on a disk are using a lot of disk space? I know how to use du and df, but that still means I have to just browse through endless lists of directories - is there a faster tool? |
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| 20:24.09 | thc | how do we know? it's your box. |
| 20:24.14 | EvilSporkMan | Plekhov: durep |
| 20:24.22 | Plekhov | EvilSporkMan:thanks |
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| 20:24.33 | EvilSporkMan | Plekhov: there's also a utility that I like called fsv, but for some strange reason, it's not in debian. I find fsv to be cooler and easier to use |
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| 20:24.43 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: package it you lazy bum! |
| 20:24.45 | Gokee2 | "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" What do I do instead "dpkg-reconfigure xorg" or something? |
| 20:24.52 | resiak | !drxx Gokee2 |
| 20:24.53 | dpkg | Gokee2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:24.54 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: what else do you have to do? ... drink and chase girls ? |
| 20:24.54 | thc | Gokee2: xserver-xorg |
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| 20:25.03 | resiak | /lastlog drxx ;) |
| 20:25.06 | Plekhov | EvilSporkMan, ok, I'll check it out :) |
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| 20:25.08 | Gokee2 | ok ty |
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| 20:25.13 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: sadly i am neither drinking nor chasing girls currently, despite being in ann arbor, the hot women capital of michigan |
| 20:25.19 | en1gma | come on guys i cant install anything until i can get aptitude working again |
| 20:25.37 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: haha ... hot girls .. michigan .. i was born there .. i know better :) |
| 20:25.43 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: I've never packaged anything before...maybe I'll look into it later |
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| 20:26.04 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: oh believe me...there are hot women galore here. that's why there aren't any anywhere else in the state |
| 20:26.14 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: and you're inside .. bad! |
| 20:26.16 | abrotman | Piggy: squeal! |
| 20:26.26 | Piggy | :-| |
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| 20:26.35 | abrotman | Piggy: bacon! |
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| 20:26.36 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: X is fubar...my computer has to work before I go chasing women |
| 20:26.47 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: guess what .. they won't care :) |
| 20:26.52 | thc | why? you can't get laid without a GUI? |
| 20:26.56 | thc | o.O |
| 20:27.04 | abrotman | thc: he needs the diagrams! |
| 20:27.06 | abrotman | :) |
| 20:27.08 | thc | ah! |
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| 20:27.21 | EvilSporkMan | it's more likely that my computer will work than i'll get women... |
| 20:27.23 | phogg | abrotman: I know you mean "pictures" |
| 20:27.24 | thc | EvilSporkMan: gimme a shell, i need some new diagrams. |
| 20:27.34 | abrotman | phogg: diagrams are fine :) |
| 20:27.40 | abrotman | phogg: stick people! |
| 20:27.46 | Gokee2 | Whats framebuffer device? Should it be on or off for the gf2? |
| 20:27.47 | phogg | abrotman: pictures are more fun |
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| 20:28.07 | abrotman | phogg: ok |
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| 20:28.28 | Gokee2 | abrotman, thc any help? |
| 20:28.29 | en1gma | 2Qs: 1stQ: why am i getting "couldnt lock cache file" when i run aptitude? 2ndQ: how do i do a "real" format when i do a fresh install of debian from within the installer where i pick my partitions and fs |
| 20:28.40 | abrotman | Gokee2: off |
| 20:28.46 | Gokee2 | abrotman, ok thanks |
| 20:28.50 | tarzeau | !format |
| 20:28.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, format is apparently what Windows users call "mke2fs""fdisk" or both |
| 20:29.05 | tarzeau | dpkg format is also on floppies use superformat |
| 20:29.05 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
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| 20:30.16 | en1gma | I get an error telling me that aptitude couldn't lock the cache, and will open it read only, and the upgrade stops. |
| 20:30.31 | en1gma | when im root |
| 20:30.42 | antgel | i've knobbed up an iptables script. the box now has no outgoing tcp connections allowed. but it looks like it should be okay. it's at http://channels.debian.net/paste/949 if anybody has the motivation. n.b. no stateful rules allowed on this box |
| 20:31.08 | antgel | en1gma: another process is probably using apt |
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| 20:31.41 | EvilSporkMan | where is the setting for sloppy focus vs. regular focus? is that WM-dependent? |
| 20:31.46 | Gokee2 | OK!! it looks like its working |
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| 20:31.51 | antgel | EvilSporkMan: yes |
| 20:31.59 | quoth | im trying to compile the ipw2200 driver (intel bg2200 wlan card), I compiled ieee80211 and wlan2200. when trying to modprobe it, I get invalid module format suggesting it was compiled for the wrong kernel version, but the right kernel headers were used when compiling, any ideas? |
| 20:32.13 | en1gma | antgel how do i find out what proc and howto kill it? is it "ps" then killid? |
| 20:32.15 | abrotman | Gokee2: now is the time on sprockets when we dance! |
| 20:32.19 | antgel | quoth: use module-assistant |
| 20:32.30 | abrotman | quoth: probably different compiler? |
| 20:32.34 | abrotman | err possibly |
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| 20:32.38 | en1gma | killpsid* |
| 20:32.39 | antgel | en1gma: lsof |grep lock |
| 20:32.46 | Gokee2 | hmm or not... The colors are REALLY strange looking :/ |
| 20:32.50 | quoth | abrotman that might be it... |
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| 20:33.08 | abrotman | yay |
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| 20:33.17 | antgel | abrotman: lamb sharwama and chips |
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| 20:33.28 | abrotman | antgel: i had an ommelette |
| 20:33.39 | antgel | abrotman: bit light for a sunday, no? |
| 20:33.41 | abrotman | no idea about dinner |
| 20:33.41 | mirak | hi |
| 20:33.47 | abrotman | antgel: and home fries and toast :) |
| 20:33.56 | abrotman | antgel: i haven't decided on dinner yet |
| 20:34.00 | mirak | I would like to have a script executed each time I unmount a usb device |
| 20:34.00 | antgel | abrotman: of course, you're not at dinner yet. what are home fries? |
| 20:34.04 | abrotman | antgel: but i'd eat that :) |
| 20:34.09 | en1gma | antgel ok thanks will go try that command |
| 20:34.14 | abrotman | antgel: diced fried potatoes(at that place anyways) |
| 20:34.17 | quoth | abrotman im using a kernel image from the apt tree, so that image must have been compiled using a different version than the compiler im using now to compile that module... does that make sense? |
| 20:34.18 | abrotman | red potatoes |
| 20:34.24 | jeph | yo. chicken and potatoes. PS. where are the pthread man pages? |
| 20:34.26 | Gokee2 | No! its at 60 Hz |
| 20:34.30 | abrotman | quoth: cat /proc/version ; gcc --version |
| 20:34.41 | Gokee2 | And I can`t figure out why the color is so bad |
| 20:34.43 | abrotman | jeph: man -k pthread ? |
| 20:35.02 | jeph | nothing appropriate... |
| 20:35.26 | quoth | abrotman my kernel was compiled using gcc 4.x, my running gcc is 3.2.2 :/ mystery solved |
| 20:35.58 | abrotman | quoth: feel better .. dist-upgrade might help you :) |
| 20:36.10 | jeph | abrotman: got manpages-dev installed... that should be it right? |
| 20:36.17 | cockroach | is there a simple gtk2-based x login manager (such as xdm)? i can't seem to find one... |
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| 20:36.29 | quoth | abrotman im already running unstable, what should I dist-upgrade to? |
| 20:36.33 | EvilSporkMan | cockroach: you mean like gdm? |
| 20:36.39 | abrotman | jeph: apt-cache search pthread |
| 20:36.45 | abrotman | quoth: unstable :) |
| 20:36.47 | cockroach | EvilSporkMan: yes, but without all the gnome-crap |
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| 20:36.55 | abrotman | quoth: you sohuld have gotten gcc4 .. at least a month ago |
| 20:37.05 | mirak | is it possible to have a script executed each time a usb device is unmounted ??? |
| 20:37.11 | abrotman | !dm |
| 20:37.11 | dpkg | DM means display manager. xdm, gdm, kdm, wdm, pdm, and login.app are all examples of display managers. Ask me about nodm if you want to disable the DM. |
| 20:37.14 | quoth | abrotman maybe something got broken, ill check it out, thanks for your time |
| 20:37.24 | abrotman | quoth: hopefully it all goes well :) |
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| 20:37.41 | antgel | quoth: maybe you don't upgrade all the time like a knob |
| 20:37.50 | abrotman | turn? |
| 20:38.09 | quoth | antgel you have apt-get upgrade in your bootscripts or what? :) |
| 20:38.44 | antgel | quoth: actually i use a heavily modified version of apt-get upgrade as my bootloader |
| 20:38.45 | cockroach | abrotman: thanks, but none of those suit my needs... |
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| 20:38.55 | jeph | hah! turns out, the VERY few man pages in the glibc-doc package are all for pthreads and semaphores. the rest is html tutorial/manual for glibc |
| 20:39.00 | abrotman | cockroach: time to write your own i suppose |
| 20:39.05 | cockroach | abrotman: heh, i guess so |
| 20:39.10 | quoth | antgel haha |
| 20:39.13 | jeph | surely these should be moved to manpages-dev |
| 20:39.18 | grendal_prime | hey i got a friends machine here and he has a hosed xp installation on it.. |
| 20:39.19 | EvilSporkMan | agh...my roommate's eating dinner and i'm still in pajamas |
| 20:39.25 | antgel | quoth: just upgrade gcc |
| 20:39.31 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: that won't get you laid either :) |
| 20:39.43 | quoth | antgel think Ill do that yea |
| 20:39.53 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: so what will get me laid aside from walking into a frat house and guzzling $ALCOHOL? |
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| 20:39.57 | abrotman | "hey baby ... i got my PJs on .. wanna come over? " :) |
| 20:40.14 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: lots of stuff ... |
| 20:40.14 | antgel | EvilSporkMan: your natural charm, good looks and repartee |
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| 20:40.24 | grendal_prime | now..im putting a little 3 gig hitach in it and a testing install with a small desktop and some tools to scan the windows drive and clean it up..it is a ntfs partition...last time i tried this. I was unable to write the changes to the ntfs drive is that still a problem? |
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| 20:40.41 | EvilSporkMan | that seems to be failing lately...it's as though getting invited to watch a movie in some chick's room is the new method of rejection |
| 20:40.43 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: but hiding in your room in your PJs is a sure fire way to have it not happen :) |
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| 20:41.04 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i'm trying to fix debian, mmkay? |
| 20:41.06 | antgel | grendal_prime: are you not better off using a live cd? |
| 20:41.15 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i wouldn't be here if X was working @_@ |
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| 20:41.30 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: so fix it ? |
| 20:41.34 | antgel | EvilSporkMan: some of us don't even get that |
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| 20:41.40 | grendal_prime | well antgel he wants the linux boot possible as well he is planning on migrating stuff over |
| 20:41.49 | abrotman | antgel: swraid sucks! :) |
| 20:42.05 | antgel | grendal_prime: if he's new to linux, please install stable not testing |
| 20:42.06 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: I have no idea what's causing this...i explained it in here before and I was directed to the AMD64 ghetto |
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| 20:42.15 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: what did you break? |
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| 20:42.21 | antgel | EvilSporkMan: for example, abrotman :P |
| 20:42.33 | abrotman | i'm not a package! |
| 20:42.34 | mirak | I would like that each time I unplug my mp3 player the programm that create a database for the player is updated. Is there a way to do that ? |
| 20:42.35 | grendal_prime | ? antgel...he has a temp machien that has a perfectly running versioni of testing |
| 20:42.57 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: focus is really screwed up...it's as though focus gets stuck on an individual "element" of a window (like a GTKWidget, but it also happens in things that aren't GTK like Wine) |
| 20:43.03 | antgel | grendal_prime: so what? the advice still applies |
| 20:43.14 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: as in .. monitor focus or mouse focus ? |
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| 20:43.31 | antgel | EvilSporkMan: what version of debian? |
| 20:43.36 | grendal_prime | i mean..thanks for the advice..but that is not what i need. what i need to know is.. is it now possible two write informatioin to ntfs drives? |
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| 20:43.37 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: so for example focus might get stuck on a text box, and then i won't be able to click any buttons or switch windows, the cursor will always be that I-bar, and clicking and dragging on some random area of the desktop highlights the text in the box |
| 20:43.43 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: try another WM .. you're using gnome >? |
| 20:43.45 | EvilSporkMan | antgel: amd64 testing with marillat unstable |
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| 20:43.50 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: yeah, also happens in openbox |
| 20:43.55 | antgel | !pal EvilSporkMan |
| 20:43.58 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: so you've tried metacity and openbox ? |
| 20:44.03 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Have you tried the nv driver rather than nvidia/ |
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| 20:44.10 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i've tried gnome and raw openbox |
| 20:44.11 | dannythm | I'l totally lost.... |
| 20:44.12 | eds01 | im haveing trouble installing X |
| 20:44.15 | madchef | anyone know how to port over a nic driver from another distro to debian... i got a new laptop i wanna install debian on |
| 20:44.21 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: GNOME is not a WM .. which WM in gnome ? |
| 20:44.22 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: i want nvidia; nvidia worked since july |
| 20:44.29 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Does it break with nv? |
| 20:44.33 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i tried metacity in gnome and plain ol' openbox |
| 20:44.34 | antgel | !ntfs write |
| 20:44.39 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: sawfish ? |
| 20:44.46 | antgel | !ntfs |
| 20:44.46 | dpkg | i heard ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 20:44.55 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: don't know how to switch WMs in gnome... |
| 20:44.56 | dannythm | the other three tiems I installed debian, I could mount my ntfs partitions doing mount -t ntfs /dev/hd* /mnt/hd* |
| 20:45.03 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Does it break with nv? |
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| 20:45.04 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: killall metacity && sawfish |
| 20:45.05 | mikygee | madchef what's your laptop |
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| 20:45.17 | grendal_prime | thanks antgel |
| 20:45.18 | dannythm | but now it tells me that the file fs type is wronk |
| 20:45.19 | liberty | ntsf <--> ext3 is a PAIN in the ass |
| 20:45.21 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: hold on while i s/nvidia/nv in xorg.conf |
| 20:45.21 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: and yes .. make sure sawfish is installed :) |
| 20:45.38 | Applejax33 | man what a good dinner to bad it wasnt a borrito |
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| 20:45.41 | cheal | madchef: heh, which nic is that? |
| 20:45.42 | eds01 | how do you install X from the command line? |
| 20:45.42 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: well, it seems to be WM independent given that it happens in openbox too |
| 20:45.42 | dannythm | i do modprobe ntfs but no working |
| 20:45.46 | madchef | hp pavilion zv6000 |
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| 20:46.00 | antgel | !tell eds01 about set up x |
| 20:46.02 | cheal | madchef: that's an nic? |
| 20:46.05 | grendal_prime | i do appreciate the advice by the way and agree with you ..the thing is...he will not be doing admin work on the machine...or installing anything by himself..i will be remotely managing the machine |
| 20:46.06 | phogg | eds01: difficult to install X any other way, really. |
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| 20:46.08 | SimonRaven | hey BTW, i get connection refused to gluck |
| 20:46.16 | Applejax33 | so has anyone played with fail over nics? |
| 20:46.27 | dannythm | how can i enable ntfs read support? |
| 20:46.28 | eds01 | so what exactly do i do? |
| 20:46.29 | madchef | cheal: rtl 8139/810x realtek |
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| 20:46.39 | abrotman | SimonRaven: what does gluck house now ? |
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| 20:46.46 | cheal | madchef: why don't you use the linux driver for it? |
| 20:46.48 | antgel | SimonRaven: what is gluck? i see it hitting my website now and then |
| 20:46.54 | abrotman | SimonRaven: gluck.debian.org works fine for me |
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| 20:47.00 | mikygee | madchef http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_Linux_64bit_on_HP_Pavilion_zv6000_series_notebook |
| 20:47.02 | resiak | dannythm:Out of interest, did you -actually- just install Breezy Badger? Because yesterday it munged my housemate's partition table |
| 20:47.05 | wotnarg | Does anyone know if apt-get can read from stdin or from an arguement? |
| 20:47.08 | SimonRaven | abrotman: yeh? mail? |
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| 20:47.15 | abrotman | SimonRaven: mail ? |
| 20:47.18 | madchef | cheal: the only ones from the mfg are for every other distro other than debian |
| 20:47.19 | antgel | eds01: i told you via the bot |
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| 20:47.23 | SimonRaven | as in, popcon results |
| 20:47.24 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: definitely still exists with sawfish |
| 20:47.24 | abrotman | SimonRaven: HTTP ! |
| 20:47.35 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 20:47.42 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: ok .. possibly a bug in xserver-xorg ? |
| 20:47.48 | w3rdn4 | btaudio 16400 0 |
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| 20:47.49 | cheal | madchef: so what? why don't you use debian's driver? |
| 20:47.51 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Did you try nv yet? :) |
| 20:47.57 | wotnarg | above question, s/apt-get/apt-key |
| 20:47.57 | eds01 | thanks |
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| 20:48.14 | madchef | cheal where would they be... i have tried to look around. dont see them |
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| 20:48.24 | grendal_prime | msg dpkg ntfs |
| 20:48.32 | EvilSporkMan | resiak: yep, problem persists |
| 20:48.44 | resiak | EvilSporkMan: Ack! |
| 20:48.45 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: but i didn't update xserver-xorg between it working and not working |
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| 20:48.49 | dannythm | reiask: nope i'm just settign up my new instalation of debian |
| 20:48.58 | resiak | !tell dannythm -about nicktab |
| 20:49.00 | cheal | madchef: I'd guess somewhere like /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko |
| 20:49.01 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: then what did you update? |
| 20:49.10 | resiak | dannythm: Oh well. Can you still boot Windows, OOI? |
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| 20:49.30 | madchef | cheal: thanks soo much |
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| 20:49.31 | EvilSporkMan | simple steps to reproduce problem: 1. Start X. 2. Start terminal. 3. Start firefox. 4. Try moving Firefox window or clicking on it; note that window doesn't move and doesn't respond to clicks and cursor remains the |
| 20:49.32 | Andreasbe | Hello |
| 20:49.36 | EvilSporkMan | "this is a text box" i-bar |
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| 20:49.45 | Andreasbe | what's the command to know the quota disk on ftp server? |
| 20:49.45 | EvilSporkMan | it's not firefox-specific, that's just one way to do it |
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| 20:50.11 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: brought myself back up to date with marillat unstable, which definitely does not include any low-level X packages, just libgtk2-perl |
| 20:50.25 | EvilSporkMan | (i checked dpkg logs, nothing suspicious) |
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| 20:50.37 | EvilSporkMan | well, desktop-base got updated, but from the description that shouldn't have any bearing on this |
| 20:50.51 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: look for a random process that might have stolen the mouse |
| 20:50.53 | EvilSporkMan | also tried moving gnome and metacity dotfiles out of the way, as well as trying a new user |
| 20:50.56 | dannythm | reiask: no, I'm trying a tiple boot with OSx86, winXp and debian |
| 20:51.01 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: ok, how do i scroll through processes in top? |
| 20:51.06 | deefzi | blah. kernel panic :p |
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| 20:51.18 | varsendagger | join #flood |
| 20:51.18 | Asmodee` | if i have a /29 allocated and am going to use ip aliasing. my netmask is .248, network addr is .128, gateway is .129, usable ips are .130 through .134 shouldnt my bcast be .135? |
| 20:51.22 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: use ps aux |
| 20:51.35 | dannythm | reiask: OSx86 and debian just work fine, win XP isn't working, but I want to mount my secondary HD where I have all my data |
| 20:51.37 | resiak | !tell dannythm -about nicktab# |
| 20:51.41 | varsendagger | hey i am going to shoot something over to flood |
| 20:51.50 | resiak | dannythm: Why not spell my nick right so that I can actually see what you're saying easily?? |
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| 20:52.19 | dannythm | resiak: sorry n_nUu |
| 20:52.19 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: nothing suspicious but maybe Xprt and famd |
| 20:52.20 | thc | resiak: you could always highlight on more than one nick, like abortmin does |
| 20:52.34 | EvilSporkMan | i have AFS mounted but that didn't change recently |
| 20:52.36 | dannythm | resiak: it's not matter but I'm kinda dislexic... |
| 20:52.56 | abrotman | !fam |
| 20:52.56 | dpkg | fam is probably a piece of software that monitors changes in inodes to track missing or deleted files. It is required by efm, and it is a bitch to compile with g++., or http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/, or something that requires an apt-get install portmap, or if lack of FAM is killing your courier-imap, build courier-imap from upstream source |
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| 20:52.58 | mihai_ | My kernel is 2.6.12-1-386...I have a GF6800...I want 3d accel...to play fps games...I've been trying to install nvidia drivers for 4 hours with no luck...X keeps failing. |
| 20:53.03 | resiak | dannythm: It's possible that your partition table doesn't match up to reality. You could try applying gpart to your disk and see whether what it says matches what fdisk says. (Oh, and try just typing res<TAB> :)) |
| 20:53.07 | varsendagger | what would be the best and easiest way to update these packages... apt-get with the servers i have just isn't working |
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| 20:53.14 | resiak | thc: I do, but I have never had reiask before :) |
| 20:53.15 | mihai_ | I have kernel-headers installed, and all that. |
| 20:53.21 | mihai_ | I tried the one liner, and that doesn't work. |
| 20:53.22 | thc | word. |
| 20:53.32 | mihai_ | apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 20:53.42 | dannythm | resiak: how can I see my partition table? I kew it, but i forgot |
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| 20:53.57 | cheal | !tell mihai_ about nvidia-howto |
| 20:54.01 | mihai_ | deb http://debian.rutgers.edu/ unstable main |
| 20:54.01 | mihai_ | deb-src http://debian.rutgers.edu/ unstable main |
| 20:54.06 | mihai_ | Those two lines are my sources.list |
| 20:54.09 | thc | dannythm: cfdisk |
| 20:54.09 | mihai_ | cheal, I followed that guide |
| 20:54.19 | resiak | dannythm: Apply cfdisk or some similar tool |
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| 20:54.27 | cheal | mihai_: ...and it worked? |
| 20:54.38 | mihai_ | no |
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| 20:54.45 | cheal | mihai_: what didn't? |
| 20:54.56 | mihai_ | cheal, I've tried like 40 times...how do i clean out what I did..and start fresh |
| 20:55.06 | resiak | dannythm: Sorry, but I have to wander off back to reality now. Good luck! |
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| 20:55.15 | valdyn | mihai_: and where is your contrib sources? |
| 20:55.17 | mihai_ | cheal, X didn't start when I select "nvidia" as the video hardware |
| 20:55.25 | dannythm | resiak: i cannot see my hdb, I only see hda |
| 20:55.28 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: did lsof | grep dev...definitely only xorg has anything mouse related open |
| 20:55.30 | cheal | mihai_: uh, depends on what you did. if you followed the guide correctly, you shouldn't have to clean stuff |
| 20:55.35 | mihai_ | valdyn, I just took them out. |
| 20:55.46 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: where anything mouse related is "device files such as psaux, mouse, or mice" |
| 20:55.53 | cheal | mihai_: what do X logs say? |
| 20:56.01 | resiak | dannythm: Then apply it to hdb? |
| 20:56.09 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: yes .. but some retarded window could have stolen focus |
| 20:56.28 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: it seems like "the last window i was using" keeps focus |
| 20:56.30 | dannythm | resiak: how? |
| 20:56.39 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: what's wrong with that ? |
| 20:56.43 | EvilSporkMan | specifically "the last part of the last window" |
| 20:56.51 | resiak | dannythm: man cfdisk; man gpart |
| 20:56.52 | mihai_ | "Build of the package nvidia-kernel-source failed! How do you wish to proceed? " |
| 20:57.04 | mihai_ | I just got this message when running "m-a auto-install nvidia" |
| 20:57.07 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: the part where focus doesn't move to different parts of the window or different windows on clicking, and i can't drag windows and i can't click buttons on them |
| 20:57.08 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: if you think it's mariallt ... remove it |
| 20:57.10 | dannythm | resiak: it says that canot open the disk =S |
| 20:57.15 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i don't think it's marillat |
| 20:57.27 | cheal | mihai_: is the nvidia kernel module package installed? |
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| 20:57.28 | resiak | dannythm: Then you have bigger problems. Are you sure it's hdb and not hdc or similar? |
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| 20:57.49 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403362 |
| 20:57.52 | mihai_ | Those are my X logs |
| 20:57.53 | dannythm | resiak: i'll try |
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| 20:57.54 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: but how would i remove all marillat packages to make sure? |
| 20:57.55 | varsendagger | any ideas guy |
| 20:58.00 | resiak | *bamf* |
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| 20:58.39 | dannythm | resiak: not hdc or hdd... but, in the three installations i did today (osk, winxp and deian the disk apeared...) |
| 20:58.58 | cheal | mihai_: is that a log when you were using the nvidia X driver? |
| 20:59.07 | mihai_ | yes |
| 20:59.10 | mihai_ | Then end part is. |
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| 20:59.29 | thc | i have seen on rare occasions, cfdisk doesn't list all partitions |
| 20:59.38 | thc | dannythm: try 'fdisk' and hit 'p' |
| 20:59.47 | cheal | mihai_: the end part? what, you have several X log files merged there? |
| 20:59.50 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: like you remove any other package :) |
| 20:59.59 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403364 |
| 21:00.03 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: ok, how do i _list_ all marillat packages so i can figure out which ones to remove? |
| 21:00.10 | mihai_ | cheal, That's how X makes their logs I assume. |
| 21:00.15 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: maybe find an xorg dev .. and see if there's a way to track mouse movement |
| 21:00.26 | dannythm | canh any one help me with my partion table? |
| 21:00.32 | mihai_ | I just pasted /var/log/Xorg.0.log file |
| 21:00.33 | cheal | mihai_: I don't think so |
| 21:00.36 | dannythm | I don't see a hard drive I have conected |
| 21:00.47 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: the mouse pointer responds to mouse movement...focus doesn't respond to clicking |
| 21:00.48 | cheal | mihai_: what video driver did you use the last time you started X? |
| 21:00.56 | mihai_ | vesa |
| 21:01.07 | EvilSporkMan | also sometimes alt-tab doesn't work, but it's not quite consistent |
| 21:01.08 | cheal | mihai_: so this log isn't helpful for your nvidia problem |
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| 21:01.14 | mihai_ | Because I don't know irssi that well...and to paste files on the web I need dillo/xchat |
| 21:01.15 | thc | dannythm: i just gave you another option. try it. |
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| 21:01.26 | cheal | mihai_: in any case, your second paste indicates that you don't have the nvidia kernel module package installed |
| 21:01.27 | mihai_ | cheal, That log has the nvidia video driver lines in it also |
| 21:01.33 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i think one of your apps is stealing :) |
| 21:01.43 | dannythm | thc: i didn't saw it, I'll search |
| 21:01.53 | EvilSporkMan | you think xterm is stealing focus? |
| 21:01.55 | dannythm | thc: ok it try |
| 21:02.00 | cheal | mihai_: no, it just mentions nvidia a couple of time because it's your graphics card |
| 21:02.51 | CasaNova_ | I created a data DVD with growisofs -Z -R -J and I can read the data off from my linux box, newer HP laptops, but my older IBM laptop with DVD cdrw won't recognize a disk is even inserted. How do I "close" a dvd disk (I see many options to close CDR disks in my software but not sure of CLI way...) |
| 21:03.08 | EvilSporkMan | i can duplicate the problem with just two xterms...1. Open first xterm and click in it. 2. open second xterm. try to click in it. Observe: first xterm retains focus; clicking and dragging anywhere on the desktop highlights the contents of the xterm |
| 21:03.18 | mihai_ | cheal, I dunno |
| 21:03.23 | mihai_ | the logs don't show nvidia stuff in it |
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| 21:03.32 | dannythm | thc: I see it, three's my disk |
| 21:03.50 | cheal | mihai_: you probably simply want /var/log/Xorg.1.log ... or another one |
| 21:03.51 | thc | dannythm: there you go then. sometimes cfdisk doesn't see all partitions *shrug* |
| 21:04.00 | EvilSporkMan | interestingly, switching to another VT and back allows me to move focus once |
| 21:04.07 | cheal | mihai_: but your X logs are irrelevant until you get the nvidia kernel module package installed |
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| 21:05.21 | nemo_ | need help with grub |
| 21:05.35 | sussudio | #grub |
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| 21:05.38 | pumpkin0 | nemo_: why ? |
| 21:05.46 | dannythm | thc: now what numbers must I set in the fstab umask to let it me acess whatever user I am? |
| 21:05.53 | nemo_ | trying to boot xp on second HD and I can't |
| 21:05.56 | dannythm | thc: umask=440? |
| 21:06.04 | mihai_ | cheal, debian:~# apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-$(uname -r) |
| 21:06.04 | mihai_ | nvidia-kernel-2.6.12-1-386: |
| 21:06.04 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.04 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.18 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.19 | thc | dannythm: that depends on what permissions you want |
| 21:06.20 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.22 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.23 | cheal | mihai_: stop it |
| 21:06.24 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.26 | thc | i have to go eat, my lunch is ready |
| 21:06.26 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.30 | mihai_ | nvidia-glx: |
| 21:06.32 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.33 | cheal | mihai_: STOP! |
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| 21:06.36 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.39 | sussudio | !moron mihai_ |
| 21:06.40 | dpkg | mihai_: You are moron #41 |
| 21:06.40 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.41 | thc | why the hell are you flooding in here |
| 21:06.42 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.44 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.46 | mihai_ | nvidia-kernel-common: |
| 21:06.48 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.49 | sussudio | mihai_ FUCK OFF |
| 21:06.50 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.50 | thc | *plonk* |
| 21:06.51 | cheal | mihai_: kill your IRC client |
| 21:06.53 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.56 | dli | mihai_, stop it |
| 21:06.56 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.00 | mihai_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.02 | mihai_ | woops, sorry |
| 21:07.03 | nemo_ | When booting up I went through the comand prompts manualy and I get an "Eroor 13" when I type ...chainloader +1 |
| 21:07.04 | pumpkin0 | nemo_: add 2 lines: map (hd1,0) (hd0,0) and map (hd0,0) (hd1,0) to your grub-windows-stataz |
| 21:07.04 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403373 |
| 21:07.05 | EvilSporkMan | hell, if i make a .xsession that reads "xterm &\nexectwm" (\n = newline), the problem exists - i can't drag the xterm around, and clicking and dragging anywhere on the desktop highlights in the xterm |
| 21:07.06 | mihai_ | I meant to paste the link |
| 21:07.08 | mihai_ | I meant to paste the pastebin link |
| 21:07.10 | mihai_ | sorry |
| 21:07.12 | EvilSporkMan | er, "exec twm" |
| 21:07.14 | zinx | mihai_: sorry doesn't cut it |
| 21:07.19 | RichiH | mihai_: /flushq is your friend ;) |
| 21:07.26 | zinx | mihai_: if that happens again, immediately kill your irc client, it will stop the flood |
| 21:07.28 | Applejax33 | hehe |
| 21:07.30 | EvilSporkMan | i think that's about as minimally as i can reproduce the problem |
| 21:07.34 | dannythm | thc: i want to acces as user and as superuser, |
| 21:08.30 | pumpkin0 | nemo_: use this: http://www.wer-weiss-was.de/cgi-bin/forum/showarchive.fpl?special=id&ArtikelID=3194060 |
| 21:08.32 | cheal | mihai_: you just proved again what I told you; you don't have the nvidia kernel module package installed |
| 21:08.52 | mihai_ | I uninstalled everything once it didn't work. |
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| 21:09.03 | cheal | mihai_: well you'll have to start again |
| 21:09.04 | EvilSporkMan | also i can't even start other X apps from the xterm in twm because twm doesn't get focus to allow me to place the window |
| 21:09.16 | mihai_ | cheal, There are like 10 different guides..and they're all confusing to me. |
| 21:09.24 | nemo_ | pumpkin0: OK thanks I will give it a shot |
| 21:09.26 | mihai_ | I've tried all of them. |
| 21:09.37 | cheal | mihai_: the best one is Andrew Schulman's Debian-nVidia HOWTO, despite its problems |
| 21:09.41 | dli | mihai_, do a test with the nvidia binary driver from nvidia.com |
| 21:09.57 | cheal | mihai_: I know they're congusing |
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| 21:10.38 | mihai_ | Will this one-liner work? "apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 21:10.47 | Asmodee` | when doing ip aliasing in debian i was told the netmask should be 255.255.255.255 even though my main ip's netmask is 255.255.255.248, is this true? |
| 21:11.04 | cheal | mihai_: not necessarily |
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| 21:11.39 | cheal | mihai_: the one-liner is just to remember someoe who already did it how to do it. you're unlikely to succeed to install the drivers for the first time with just that |
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| 21:13.28 | w3rdn4 | does anyone know why my tv tuner works, but the audio on it does not? |
| 21:13.49 | dnagenie | any body know what's up with the sarge xfree -> xorg site? it barfs when i try to conver |
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| 21:14.04 | deadcat | dnagenie: /topic |
| 21:14.22 | happyb | debian install and SATA: stupid question, but if installer can partition and format, install should work fine on SATA drive right? |
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| 21:14.43 | happyb | it keeps dying during next phase..dont know why |
| 21:14.44 | teledat | hi folks |
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| 21:15.00 | teledat | does anybody know a command line tool to convert bmp images into jpg? |
| 21:15.09 | EvilSporkMan | teledat: convert in the imagemagick package |
| 21:15.17 | Rasmus99 | w3rdn4: in most cases a video card has a video chip AND audio chip, so you need to load the correct module for your audio chip |
| 21:15.19 | dli | teledat, convert foo.bmp foo.jpg |
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| 21:15.28 | teledat | ok thank you guys :) |
| 21:15.29 | Dasnipa` | couldnt you just open in gimp then save as jpg |
| 21:15.36 | w3rdn4 | alright |
| 21:15.42 | deadcat | Dasnipa`: COMMANDLINE |
| 21:15.43 | EvilSporkMan | Dasnipa`: yes, but that takes forever compared to running convert, and you have to install gimp |
| 21:15.49 | w3rdn4 | I will take the thing out and look at the audio chip on it |
| 21:15.49 | w3rdn4 | hehehe |
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| 21:15.54 | mihai_ | cheal, -su: make-kpkg: command not found |
| 21:15.56 | Dasnipa` | who wouldnt install gimp ;) |
| 21:16.03 | mihai_ | And I followed the guide... I installed modules-assistant |
| 21:16.05 | EvilSporkMan | Dasnipa`: people who don't have X installed? |
| 21:16.09 | cheal | mihai_: you really don't want to compile your kernel |
| 21:16.11 | Dasnipa` | tru dat |
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| 21:16.28 | Kovecses | is there a need for me to install a rootkit hunter? |
| 21:16.36 | bbrazil | Kovecses: doesn't hurt |
| 21:16.37 | deadcat | Kovecses: no |
| 21:16.43 | hjubal2k5 | re |
| 21:16.44 | cheal | mihai_: the guide mentions make-kpkg for those who are compiling their kernels. it's unclear about that, but you want to skip that part |
| 21:16.47 | dli | Kovecses, chkrootkit |
| 21:16.48 | RichiH | Kovecses: personally, i would og for tripwire |
| 21:16.58 | EdLin | Kovecses: good idea. I found a rootkit that way. |
| 21:17.07 | Kovecses | so get tripwire? |
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| 21:18.06 | EdLin | Kovecses: I've used chkrootkit, but tripwire is probably useful too. |
| 21:18.10 | EvilSporkMan | Kovecses: i run chkrootkit in an anacron job...it's up to you |
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| 21:18.43 | InKubus | hi what's the correct way to clean down my overly large /var/log and /var/cache directories? |
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| 21:19.00 | Kovecses | what about rootkit hunter? |
| 21:19.07 | EvilSporkMan | InKubus: I just sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*, but that's quite possibly wrong |
| 21:19.18 | EvilSporkMan | Kovecses: that's what chkrootkit does...i'm not sure what you mean by "rootkit hunter" |
| 21:19.22 | dli | InKubus, logrotate can do /var/log |
| 21:19.31 | InKubus | fantastic thanks guys |
| 21:19.32 | deadcat | InKubus: apt-get clean and rm |
| 21:19.34 | Kovecses | EvilSporkMan, its an application |
| 21:19.53 | InKubus | thanks deadcat |
| 21:20.07 | mihai_ | cheal, When I follow the guide the "m-a auto-install nvidia" command doesn't work |
| 21:20.18 | mihai_ | It gives me lots of errors and a big long log file that looks like a bourne script |
| 21:20.26 | deadcat | mihai_: you dont have module-assistant maybe? |
| 21:20.39 | mihai_ | I do. |
| 21:20.43 | cheal | mihai_: that's problematic |
| 21:20.55 | mihai_ | "module-assistant is already the newest version." |
| 21:20.57 | mihai_ | From apt |
| 21:20.58 | cheal | mihai_: try # m-a build nvidia; instead |
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| 21:21.14 | cheal | and tell whether that succeeds |
| 21:21.32 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403409 |
| 21:21.56 | EvilSporkMan | Kovecses: well, the description for rkhunter (apt-cache show rkhunter) recommends running chkrootkit |
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| 21:22.29 | abrotman | no |
| 21:22.45 | cheal | mihai_: if that's from running # m-a build nvidia, I guess your log file will be needed |
| 21:22.59 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: should I file a bug for my X problem? |
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| 21:23.12 | mihai_ | cheal, How can i put that into a file? |
| 21:23.13 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i'd try to find an xorg developer |
| 21:23.18 | mihai_ | It's showing me the log in ncurses program |
| 21:23.24 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: or try the debian-x mailing list first |
| 21:23.47 | EvilSporkMan | where would i look for an xorg developer? |
| 21:23.58 | cheal | mihai_: try finding it based on the command's output on the shell. or just look in the current directory contents |
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| 21:24.21 | mihai_ | i tried current directory |
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| 21:24.31 | mihai_ | And it's not in the shell output either |
| 21:24.57 | cheal | mihai_: then try running m-a with -t switch |
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| 21:25.34 | SimonRaven | overfiend is here, but he won't answer x stuff here anyway |
| 21:25.43 | eds01 | i've installed X, now how do i install fluxbox? |
| 21:25.47 | EvilSporkMan | I assume #xorg is an ok place to look? |
| 21:25.52 | EvilSporkMan | eds01: apt-get install fluxbox |
| 21:26.00 | EvilSporkMan | eds01: generally apt-get install foo installs the foo package |
| 21:26.04 | eds01 | thacks |
| 21:26.10 | SimonRaven | man apt-get |
| 21:26.20 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403418 |
| 21:26.21 | eds01 | err, thanks |
| 21:26.40 | Kovecses | fluxbox is great |
| 21:26.44 | deadcat | eds01: if you can install X, how can you NOT kow how to install fluxbox? |
| 21:26.52 | EvilSporkMan | Kovecses: incidentally, rkhunter doesn't appear to be in stable |
| 21:26.56 | xixor | Kovecses: I used to be a huge fan of fluxbox, until I tried the newer KDE |
| 21:27.02 | xixor | Kovecses: now I am a KDE fan |
| 21:27.06 | kadigibox | fluxbox! |
| 21:27.11 | EvilSporkMan | xixor, Kovecses: i used to use openbox until I tried GNOME |
| 21:27.14 | Kovecses | cant stand kde |
| 21:27.20 | deadcat | !start a wm war |
| 21:27.20 | dpkg | GNOME blows! |
| 21:27.21 | Kovecses | i like flux and gnome |
| 21:27.23 | xixor | EvilSporkMan: I dont know openbox |
| 21:27.26 | kadigibox | I cant stand gnome or kde.... too bloated |
| 21:27.29 | xixor | heh |
| 21:27.33 | EvilSporkMan | xixor: fluxbox with no taskbar |
| 21:27.35 | SimonRaven | gnome isn't a wm... |
| 21:27.46 | xixor | I got WindowMaker running under windows XP + cygwin the otherday.. it brought back memories of like 1998 for me :) |
| 21:27.52 | xixor | EvilSporkMan: ah |
| 21:27.54 | deadcat | SimonRaven: its sunday. what you expect |
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| 21:28.05 | SimonRaven | no much |
| 21:28.08 | SimonRaven | not* |
| 21:28.11 | EvilSporkMan | SimonRaven: isn't it "bloated" regardless of WM? |
| 21:28.25 | cheal | mihai_: what does $ dpkg -l nvidia*|grep ii; output? |
| 21:28.28 | Kovecses | icewm is nice too |
| 21:28.31 | SimonRaven | what, gnome? yeh. same for kde |
| 21:28.33 | xixor | kadigibox: I used to think that way, but I usd to run straight stripped down window maker, and screen from xterm, to keep as small of foot print as possible, the new kde does pretty good in that regard |
| 21:28.54 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 21:28.56 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403427 |
| 21:29.10 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: might be #freedesktop ... not sure |
| 21:29.18 | deadcat | if you guys dont want a bloated system. dont use a computer |
| 21:29.36 | xixor | Xenguy: I like xfce4, its great |
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| 21:30.16 | Xenguy | xixor: I just tried it again, after quite some time - I needed to discover a few tweaks, but I am quite liking it this time around :-) |
| 21:30.30 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403429 |
| 21:30.34 | xixor | Xenguy: I probably haven't seriously used it in a year or so |
| 21:30.34 | EvilSporkMan | how do i close a pm in irssi? |
| 21:30.44 | mihai_ | EvilSporkMan, /close |
| 21:30.47 | SimonRaven | /wc |
| 21:30.47 | deadcat | EvilSporkMan: /win close |
| 21:30.53 | mihai_ | !start a window manager war |
| 21:30.53 | dpkg | enlightenment blows! |
| 21:31.18 | Xenguy | xixor: I switched from GNOME to xfce4 on this old laptop, in an effort to reduce the bloat a bit |
| 21:31.19 | EvilSporkMan | mihai_: it's not close |
| 21:31.26 | thc | ehm. what just triggered dpkg. |
| 21:31.28 | SimonRaven | not much of a flame war if no one reacts... |
| 21:31.37 | cheal | mihai_: are you an amd64? |
| 21:31.38 | mihai_ | EvilSporkMan, Look at what SimonRaven said |
| 21:31.41 | mihai_ | cheal, no |
| 21:31.42 | EvilSporkMan | mihai_: yep |
| 21:31.49 | xixor | Xenguy: I have never been a fan of gnome.. some gtk apps I really like, but I just couldn't get into the gnome environment |
| 21:31.56 | deadcat | screenshots people. no point about talking bloated and shits without showing screenshots |
| 21:32.09 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403434 |
| 21:32.12 | EvilSporkMan | xixor: i still launch apps from a terminal and avoid nautilus mostly |
| 21:32.14 | Kovecses | we need screenshots |
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| 21:32.21 | deadcat | if you aint showing screenshots. you arent proving shit |
| 21:32.24 | dannythm | thc: wich sequence I have to put inthe umask to have acess as root and as normal user? |
| 21:32.40 | xixor | EvilSporkMan: I am actually using the KDE start menu thing, or its run menu now |
| 21:32.48 | Xenguy | xixor: I actually like GNOME in general, but it needs beefy hardware to work; KDE I am not really fond of (altho I respect the product and developers of course) |
| 21:32.52 | xixor | EvilSporkMan: it works well,use konsole for the terminal |
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| 21:33.00 | thc | dannythm: elaborate on that, you want users to be able to read and write? |
| 21:33.04 | deadcat | we need to see a screenshot atleast with a terminal running top and the rest of your daily apps running |
| 21:33.06 | xixor | Xenguy: to be fair, I haven't given gnome a full chance |
| 21:33.21 | EvilSporkMan | xixor: er, what am i talking about? I launch apps with the Alt-F2 Run Window; I manage files with a terminal |
| 21:33.39 | abrotman | kde is krap :) |
| 21:33.41 | deadcat | see. once i ask for screenshots. they stop talking about wm/dm |
| 21:33.51 | xixor | EvilSporkMan: I mostly manage my files with a terminal, but I use konqueror often.. konqueror is pretty nice |
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| 21:34.19 | cheal | mihai_: I don't know. try using the "Build manually, with a stock kernel" kernel module build method |
| 21:34.43 | dannythm | thc: yes |
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| 21:34.56 | SimonRaven | i have to edit it for privacy issues |
| 21:35.07 | deadcat | ? |
| 21:35.17 | SimonRaven | tailing logs |
| 21:35.20 | deadcat | oh |
| 21:35.25 | dannythm | thc: is an ntfs partition so read only, I won't use ntfs-captive |
| 21:35.46 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403440 |
| 21:35.52 | mihai_ | That is what I get when I follow that guide. |
| 21:36.17 | thc | dannythm: you won't be writing much to ntfs then |
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| 21:36.41 | cheal | mihai_: looks like you're following the "Build manually, with a custom kernel" method |
| 21:37.34 | deadcat | SimonRaven: i just changed the fonts on my window bar thing, and the openbox menu. using 3 pretty nice ttf fonts (= |
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| 21:38.10 | rusty- | What to do when apt-get fails? |
| 21:38.19 | deadcat | rusty-: what error msg? |
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| 21:38.34 | dannythm | thc: so what sequence? 220? |
| 21:38.36 | deadcat | rusty-: maybe apt-get or aptitude is running on anotehr term |
| 21:39.14 | thc | dannythm: i wouldn't even use a umask, i use the 'user' mount option. i have never tried to write to ntfs, and i never will. |
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| 21:39.53 | rusty- | http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/1953209&from=rss < That's What I've got from Newsforge ! |
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| 21:40.10 | mihai_ | cheal, http://pastebin.com/403445 |
| 21:40.11 | dannythm | thc: me neither, so in options i only put "auto,user" |
| 21:40.25 | Rasmus99 | how can i start debian in rescue mode from the debian netinstall cd? Grub is not working at the moment. |
| 21:40.33 | thc | dannythm: if that's what you want, then yes |
| 21:40.44 | thc | dannythm: you should read the man page for mount |
| 21:40.51 | Rasmus99 | i mean i want to start my debian system from hd by using the netinstall cd |
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| 21:41.16 | RvGaTe | Do i need to have the i386 for amd ? |
| 21:41.23 | dannythm | thc: i readed the man page thousand of times n_nUu |
| 21:41.27 | bob2 | RvGaTe: no |
| 21:41.38 | bob2 | Rasmus99: start the installer. go through to the partitioning stage. hit alt-f2. |
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| 21:41.52 | SimonRaven | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/shots/shot_2005_10_23_1024x768.png |
| 21:41.59 | cheal | mihai_: well, you seem to be damned. I got to go. try to google it or try using the drivers from experimental |
| 21:42.22 | Rasmus99 | bob2: ok i will try that thanks |
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| 21:42.39 | deadcat | SimonRaven: you always run aterm to display the logs? |
| 21:43.06 | SimonRaven | usually i use uxterm, but it's been misbeahving lately. i use screen plus less +F |
| 21:43.34 | deadcat | SimonRaven: ah. i just use root-tail |
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| 21:43.42 | SimonRaven | currently i'm tailing 11 different logs |
| 21:43.46 | deadcat | SimonRaven: let me show you the fonts i am using on my wm right now |
| 21:44.15 | deadcat | SimonRaven: conky does a pretty nice job in tailing log files too. you can set n lines for each logfile and they dont overlaps |
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| 21:44.29 | SimonRaven | i don't like stuff that i have to move away everything just to look at the logs, plus using screen is really nice |
| 21:45.03 | deadcat | ls |
| 21:45.05 | Rasmus99 | bob2: this is not what i meant. I want to boot my debian system on my harddrive by using the cd |
| 21:45.15 | SimonRaven | brb |
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| 21:45.37 | RvGaTe | bob2: wich one do i need then |
| 21:45.53 | w3rdn4 | what type of tv tuner uses the bt878khf chip? |
| 21:46.01 | deadcat | SimonRaven: deadcat.freeshell.org/rm.in.2.min.png |
| 21:46.06 | thc | Rasmus99: you don't have a bootloader installed or GRUB on a floppy? |
| 21:46.39 | Rasmus99 | bob2: the master boot sector is overwritten by a windows installation |
| 21:46.51 | Rasmus99 | bob2: so grub is gone |
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| 21:46.54 | Knorrie | n1c0las_: lo ;) |
| 21:47.04 | thc | Rasmus99: you need to use your install cd to chroot into your debian system and reinstall GRUB. |
| 21:47.15 | SimonRaven | deadcat: well, Works For me :). |
| 21:47.27 | thc | i'm off for some beers, the sun just came out. |
| 21:47.30 | Rasmus99 | thc: i know, that's what i want to do now, but how? |
| 21:47.38 | eniac | when using samba , a |
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| 21:47.50 | eniac | and guest ok = yes , is set, what's the passwd for guest, ? |
| 21:47.54 | Rasmus99 | thc: things like rescue root=/dev/hdb1 is not working |
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| 21:48.03 | fritz[] | hello |
| 21:48.28 | fritz[] | is there some reporting tool that works fine under php5? |
| 21:48.53 | SimonRaven | deadcat: what's this conky thing? |
| 21:49.06 | clojster | what is SELinux? |
| 21:49.15 | EvilSporkMan | !selinux |
| 21:49.15 | dpkg | selinux is, like, the NSA's port to Linux of the FLASK security Architectur, called Security Enhanced Linux. |
| 21:49.19 | deadcat | SimonRaven: system monitor based on torsmo, the on on the top left, but i am not using that to display logfile though |
| 21:49.45 | clojster | is it good? do you use it? Do you recommend it? |
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| 21:50.11 | bob2 | RvGaTe: whatever you want |
| 21:50.18 | bob2 | Rasmus99: awesome |
| 21:50.25 | bob2 | 07:41:38 bob2 | Rasmus99: start the installer. go through to the partitioning stage. hit alt-f2. |
| 21:50.36 | bob2 | Rasmus99: then chroot into yoursystem and rerun grub-install |
| 21:50.38 | SimonRaven | oh yeh, i remember seeing it now |
| 21:50.57 | fabsmad | How can I tell my debian distro to start gdesklets when I launch gnome? |
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| 21:51.15 | Rasmus99 | bob2: ok, sound very complicates, slackware does this much easier |
| 21:51.27 | deadcat | fabsmad: click around gnome |
| 21:51.40 | Rasmus99 | bob2: how do i chroot into my system? |
| 21:51.41 | dli | how to provide ntp service to 172.16. without any restrition (say, no authentication needed) |
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| 21:51.50 | fabsmad | deadcat: what does this mean? |
| 21:52.05 | jsan | my friends good night !!! |
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| 21:52.18 | deadcat | fabsmad: click around gnome and look for it. |
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| 21:52.32 | r3gii | my system is freezing after some time - what can i do to reper it? |
| 21:52.37 | deadcat | dli: can you just make them use pools.ntp.org? |
| 21:52.39 | SimonRaven | desktop > sessions |
| 21:52.41 | Applejax33 | throw it out |
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| 21:52.45 | deadcat | r3gii: install linux? |
| 21:52.54 | ke6isf | r3gii: Are you running Debian? |
| 21:52.54 | dli | deadcat, then, I have to set up a router |
| 21:52.59 | bob2 | Rasmus99: use slackware then |
| 21:53.02 | bob2 | no one cares what you use |
| 21:53.04 | deadcat | dli: oh. you dont have one |
| 21:53.07 | clojster | i'm compilling new kernel - should I compile in selinux? |
| 21:53.07 | r3gii | yes i do |
| 21:53.08 | dli | deadcat, no |
| 21:53.09 | Applejax33 | ooooo in microshaft |
| 21:53.11 | bob2 | you chroot like you always chroot |
| 21:53.13 | deadcat | dli: well config the ntp daemon (= |
| 21:53.15 | bob2 | chroot /dev/whatever |
| 21:53.17 | fabsmad | but, I don't want to do it manually... |
| 21:53.30 | deadcat | clojster: if you ask , you shoudlnt be compiling |
| 21:53.40 | juxmen | is there a rar unpacker? xp friends always pack our videos in .rar |
| 21:53.50 | ke6isf | r3gii: What version? What do the log files say? What precisely are the symptoms? |
| 21:53.51 | dli | deadcat, just one line in ntp.conf, but I couldn't get it work :( |
| 21:53.53 | deadcat | fabsmad: not from the menu list. its an option somewhere |
| 21:53.56 | SimonRaven | slackware doesn't chroot any differently than debian... they use the same system calls, same fricking binaries, same fricking kernel |
| 21:54.04 | Rasmus99 | bob2: it'S true, slack is here easier accept it. In slack i enter my cd, then i read the message on the scren, then i enter in the boot prompt linux root=/dev/hdaX and i am done. Why can't debian do this? |
| 21:54.13 | fabsmad | is it possible to set up the sys to start an applet when I launch gnome?? |
| 21:54.13 | deadcat | dli: doh. blocking the port? i dont have a network to play with. (= |
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| 21:54.16 | bob2 | ha ha ha |
| 21:54.28 | bob2 | Rasmus99: because it can, duh |
| 21:54.28 | deadcat | fabsmad: .xsession |
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| 21:54.32 | clojster | deadcat: ok, thanks - and can you give me some address where I can learn what exactly is it? (google didn't help me) |
| 21:54.40 | fabsmad | thanks |
| 21:54.44 | bob2 | Rasmus99: now stop whinging and do what I said, or use slackware |
| 21:54.44 | dli | deadcat, I already put "iptables -I INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT" |
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| 21:54.53 | deadcat | clojster: i dont know. dont use selinux |
| 21:54.57 | ke6isf | !start a distro war |
| 21:54.57 | dpkg | Fedora sux0rz! |
| 21:54.58 | XTF | Hi. I'm upgrading openssh-client and it's asking what to do with a new conf file although I never touched the old conf file. Why doesn't it just overwrite the old one? |
| 21:55.01 | Rasmus99 | bob2: ok i try to use my slackware method on debian |
| 21:55.14 | dli | deadcat, still get no server suitable for synchronization found |
| 21:55.16 | clojster | deadcat: hm. thanks |
| 21:55.16 | bob2 | Rasmus99: which won't work |
| 21:55.16 | jsan | i use this command find / -perm +4000 -print to see the seuid in programs but the list programs to result this command , what kind of programs i need to discard setuid whith the command chmod u-s ? |
| 21:55.22 | deadcat | dli: no clue. it should be something simple though (=. i bet. |
| 21:55.24 | r3gii | ke6isf: i have a debian sarge 3.1 with kernel 2.4.27-2-686 |
| 21:55.29 | bob2 | Rasmus99: it would work if you compiled a kernel like slackware does |
| 21:55.31 | bob2 | if not, you lose |
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| 21:55.36 | deadcat | dli: can you telnet to that port? |
| 21:55.37 | dli | deadcat, right, just couldn't get it |
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| 21:55.42 | juxmen | how can I unpack. rar files within debian? |
| 21:55.49 | deadcat | unrar |
| 21:55.51 | c_k | can anyone here give me a hand with mounting a new scsi drive on my server please |
| 21:55.53 | fabsmad | where is .xsession? |
| 21:55.54 | ke6isf | r3gii: That's part one. I still need to know what the symptoms are, and if the logfiles say anything. |
| 21:55.58 | Rasmus99 | bob2: btw it is bad, that debian doesn't tell me that solution at the boot prompt. There are so many help sites from F1-F10 but nowhere i can read things like how to start the system on the hard drive. Not very good from a usability standpoint |
| 21:56.03 | bob2 | c_k: add line to /etc/fstab. enjoy. |
| 21:56.05 | c_k | edited the /etc/fstab file but cant mount |
| 21:56.05 | SimonRaven | blah, keep getting distracted from setting this up... |
| 21:56.07 | dli | deadcat, telnet server 53 ? |
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| 21:56.13 | deadcat | c_k: man mount, cat /proc/partitions for the device |
| 21:56.14 | bob2 | Rasmus99: because it's an install cd, not a rescue cd |
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| 21:56.17 | deadcat | dli: ya |
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| 21:56.29 | c_k | tried that as well deadcat |
| 21:56.32 | bob2 | Rasmus99: if you actually care, file a bug |
| 21:56.35 | baeaeken | Hi folks, i was wondering if theres anybody here that knows how to get your SATA disks working? I can find them in debian-install, but grub isnt loading after the install, and then i cant even find them in bios |
| 21:56.39 | Rasmus99 | bob2: why does the install cd not provide such a kernel? Like slackware does? |
| 21:56.49 | dli | deadcat, I can type "1", "2", "3", then, "connection closed by forgein host" |
| 21:56.49 | deadcat | c_k: thats all the hands i have (= |
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| 21:57.00 | c_k | last time I did it I just edited the fstab file and then ran mount /name and it worked |
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| 21:57.04 | c_k | now it dont :-( |
| 21:57.06 | deadcat | dli: at least its listening (= |
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| 21:57.13 | Rasmus99 | bob2: ok i will fill that bug |
| 21:57.18 | deadcat | c_k: dmesg? |
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| 21:57.49 | bob2 | Rasmus99: holy fuck |
| 21:57.53 | bob2 | if you want slackware, use it |
| 21:58.03 | bob2 | if Debian is too confusing for you, don't use it |
| 21:58.05 | c_k | yeah done that I can see the drives there can ever fdisk /dev/sda as well no problems |
| 21:58.17 | jsan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.19 | bob2 | c_k: "now it dont" is not a description of the problem |
| 21:58.32 | Rasmus99 | bob: no, if debian is confusing me, it must get changed. That's the way i solve things. I don't run away. |
| 21:58.38 | deadcat | shit. computer is too confusing.. i am gonna buy a AOL computer |
| 21:58.39 | bob2 | hahahahahaha |
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| 21:58.48 | c_k | get this error ::: mount: mount point /logs does not exist |
| 21:58.58 | c_k | that drive is being called /logs btw :-) |
| 21:58.58 | deadcat | there |
| 21:58.59 | bob2 | c_k: duh, mkdir /logs |
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| 21:59.12 | bob2 | jsan: if your question is "which programs can I remove the setuid bit from", then probably none, unless you know what they're doing |
| 21:59.37 | r3gii | ke6isf: i dont know which logfile sould i check :( , symptoms: pc is on but system dont response to keybord, cant log in from another host to:( |
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| 21:59.42 | ke6isf | Rasmus99: Debian will not change because it confuses one user. Either the user must adapt, or the user must go away. |
| 21:59.54 | jsan | bob2 this is my question |
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| 22:00.11 | deadcat | bob2: what you think of the fonts? http://deadcat.freeshell.org/rm.in.2.min.png the menu and the message on the window title thing. too blurry? |
| 22:00.29 | Rasmus99 | bob2: debian does not tell me how to chroot into my old debian system? So please tell me. |
| 22:00.32 | c_k | bob2: now I am getting wrong fs type |
| 22:00.32 | ke6isf | r3gii: Does it respond to mouse? Does it have an uptime and suddenly fails? Note too it can be hardware failure of some sort. |
| 22:00.37 | streuner | Rasmus99: do you have a knoppix CD hand? |
| 22:00.43 | streuner | s/hand/handy/ |
| 22:00.44 | bob2 | c_k: which is also clear, pick the right one |
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| 22:00.51 | jsan | my friends which programs can I remove the setuid bit from ? |
| 22:00.58 | jsan | hehehehe bob2 |
| 22:01.03 | ke6isf | !iyhtays jsan |
| 22:01.04 | dpkg | jsan: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 22:01.09 | streuner | Rasmus99: easy to use it as rescue CD |
| 22:01.12 | eds01 | im haveing trouble with getting x to work |
| 22:01.13 | c_k | tried that using fdisk yeah |
| 22:01.21 | bob2 | jsan: of you don't know what the programs do, why would you remove the setuid bit from them? |
| 22:01.25 | Rasmus99 | streuner: i do, i also have a slackware cd which could easily fix my problem by using lilo. But i testing debian at the moment and things need to get done without the help of other ditros |
| 22:01.29 | bob2 | c_k: fdisk has nothing to do with putting a filesystem on the disk |
| 22:01.48 | deadcat | bob2: must heard it from some idiot about suid programs |
| 22:01.57 | c_k | bob2; so what am I missing then |
| 22:01.58 | streuner | Rasmus99: well, d-i uses udev/devfs, AFAIK |
| 22:02.06 | steigweis | i have a serious problem with my lan connection on ubuntu breezy. i am not sure, if thats a bug in the 2.6. kernel, because on debian sarge 2.4 it worked - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=438066#post438066 please help :=) |
| 22:02.10 | bob2 | c_k: you missed the bit where you put a filesystem on the disk |
| 22:02.12 | shad0wcat | heh Rasmus99 is still on that lilo problem |
| 22:02.13 | c_k | I know I have missed something but cant think what it is |
| 22:02.15 | dli | bob2: which cmd to make reiserfs? |
| 22:02.16 | ke6isf | steigweis: Ask in #ubuntu please. |
| 22:02.17 | bob2 | steigweis: you're in the wrong channel, sorry |
| 22:02.19 | bob2 | dli: mkfs |
| 22:02.21 | bob2 | c_k: mkfs |
| 22:02.27 | Rasmus99 | shad8wcat: it never was a lilo problem |
| 22:02.31 | r3gii | ke6isf: mouse does not respond to, how can i check uptime?, which files should i check? |
| 22:02.36 | shad0wcat | lilo/grub whatever |
| 22:02.37 | Rasmus99 | shad8wcat: it's a grub & debian problem |
| 22:02.43 | c_k | thats it cheers guys its rocking now thanks |
| 22:02.45 | streuner | Rasmus99: so it will not change ad hoc, if you file a bug report or not :-) |
| 22:02.50 | shad0wcat | I say it's a pebkac problem but oh well |
| 22:02.52 | shad0wcat | anyhow |
| 22:02.53 | steigweis | ke6isf: dont be cruel |
| 22:02.54 | ke6isf | r3gii: Uptime can be found by typing 'uptime' at the command line. Try in /var/log/syslog. |
| 22:03.00 | c_k | still saying wrong fstype |
| 22:03.02 | jsan | bob2 i need to know what programs i need to run in my server, if i need to run i dont discard bitsuid if not i discard |
| 22:03.06 | shad0wcat | steigweis: we don't support ubuntu in here |
| 22:03.06 | Rasmus99 | streuner: i am happy when it get fixed in testing |
| 22:03.08 | deadcat | steigweis: its not cruel |
| 22:03.08 | ke6isf | steigweis: Who's being cruel? This is #debian, not #ubuntu. Ask in #ubuntu. |
| 22:03.10 | jsan | correct bob2 |
| 22:03.20 | Rasmus99 | streuner: now i need to know how to chroot into my debian system |
| 22:03.21 | eds01 | can anyone help me to get X up and working? i typed apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86, and went through that whole proccess, then i typed apt-get install fluxbox, but startx isnt working |
| 22:03.22 | shad0wcat | if you have an ubuntu question, ask in #ubuntu |
| 22:03.26 | bob2 | jsan: so uninstall things you don't need |
| 22:03.27 | shad0wcat | !ubuntu |
| 22:03.27 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 22:03.28 | c_k | did mkfs /dev/sda |
| 22:03.36 | EdLin | steigweis: if you want a channel that's not distro-specific, try ##linux or something. |
| 22:03.38 | jsan | ok bob2 |
| 22:03.39 | bob2 | c_k: uh, sure you don't have any partitions on that? |
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| 22:03.42 | steigweis | yeyey, alright i am on debian and i have an ubuntu question i am sorry |
| 22:03.50 | steigweis | thanks, np |
| 22:03.54 | deadcat | steigweis: we dont belive you no more |
| 22:03.56 | streuner | Rasmus99: You don't unterstand or not listen :-) |
| 22:03.59 | steigweis | lol |
| 22:04.01 | c_k | yeh |
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| 22:04.04 | jsan | i am coig to unistall the programs i not going to use |
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| 22:04.07 | jsan | correct bob2 |
| 22:04.10 | Rasmus99 | shad8wcat: BTW grub destroyed my boot sector of the windows partition so much, that i needed to reinstall windows |
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| 22:04.13 | shad0wcat | streuner: we established that when he was in here whining yesturday |
| 22:04.17 | ke6isf | steigweis: That doesn't matter, ask in #ubuntu for ubuntu specific stuff. Like the factoid says, even Shuttleworth himself agrees that it ain't Debian. |
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| 22:04.21 | dpower | How long has freenode been around? |
| 22:04.22 | steigweis | who ever believes deadcats, huh? |
| 22:04.27 | shad0wcat | Rasmus99: you run WinME |
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| 22:04.36 | shad0wcat | in my book you're not even worth helping |
| 22:04.38 | streuner | Rasmus99: nah |
| 22:04.39 | eds01 | so can anyone help me? |
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| 22:04.45 | azeem | dpower: pretty long, under different names, though |
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| 22:04.55 | deadcat | i am a credible person (= |
| 22:05.04 | streuner | Rasmus99: MBR can easily re-configured, if needed |
| 22:05.10 | shad0wcat | eds01: what was the question? |
| 22:05.14 | dli | deadcat, but you couldn't make my ntp server work :(( |
| 22:05.14 | tremor | eds01: does /usr/X11R6/bin/startx exists? |
| 22:05.20 | deadcat | dli: hahaha |
| 22:05.23 | eds01 | can anyone help me to get X up and working? i typed apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86, and went through that whole proccess, then i typed apt-get install fluxbox, but startx isnt working |
| 22:05.25 | streuner | Rasmus99: grub or lilo do this all the time |
| 22:05.26 | gr8ron | what happened to greycat? |
| 22:05.37 | deadcat | gr8ron: ran over by a bus |
| 22:05.41 | c_k | getting this is the syslog --- ext3: No journal on filesystem on sda |
| 22:05.41 | eds01 | basicaly i cant get x up and running |
| 22:05.44 | ke6isf | !drxx eds01 |
| 22:05.45 | dpkg | eds01: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:05.54 | gr8ron | deadcat: oh no :(( |
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| 22:06.01 | ke6isf | Hmm, not quite the right factoid yet though. |
| 22:06.04 | happyb | for hyperthreading, do i use kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp? |
| 22:06.08 | ke6isf | eds01: What are the symptoms of "not working"? |
| 22:06.09 | jsan | by |
| 22:06.11 | happyb | via apt-get ? |
| 22:06.12 | Rasmus99 | shad8wcat: i was right yesterday, you were wrong, you couldn't help me that is your problem. |
| 22:06.18 | jsan | thanks bob2 !!!!!! |
| 22:06.19 | EdLin | eds01: apt-get install x-window-system-core fluxbox xterm |
| 22:06.21 | shad0wcat | Rasmus99: actually |
| 22:06.21 | streuner | heh |
| 22:06.21 | eds01 | basicaly i cant get it up and running |
| 22:06.21 | deadcat | gr8ron: please say you know i was kidding |
| 22:06.24 | shad0wcat | I couldn't be bothered |
| 22:06.25 | bob2 | eds01: you'll need to start reading your logs (/var/log/X*) |
| 22:06.26 | shad0wcat | as I said |
| 22:06.29 | shad0wcat | I don't support WinME |
| 22:06.31 | eds01 | ok |
| 22:06.33 | Rasmus99 | streuenr: it's not about MBR |
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| 22:06.44 | tremor | eds01: do you get a 'command not found'? |
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| 22:06.47 | ke6isf | eds01: But why doesn't it come up? There should be some sort of error returned if it's failing to start. |
| 22:06.50 | Rasmus99 | streuer: i mean it wasn't about MBR, now it is :) |
| 22:06.51 | gr8ron | deadcat: you know i was kidding |
| 22:06.53 | shad0wcat | the only support for that pos OS you'll get from me is a windows XP cd |
| 22:07.02 | EdLin | eds01: you are only installing the server without the client packages, and some other stuff. |
| 22:07.06 | deadcat | gr8ron: i just want to make sure (=. it IS sunday |
| 22:07.10 | streuner | Rasmus99: so you mis-configured grub |
| 22:07.11 | eds01 | oh |
| 22:07.12 | eds01 | ok |
| 22:07.15 | eds01 | thanks |
| 22:07.26 | eds01 | ill go and reinstall it |
| 22:07.41 | gr8ron | deadcat: so you're ex-greycat? :) |
| 22:07.46 | deadcat | no |
| 22:07.55 | pusling | how often do xorg segfault on i386 ? |
| 22:08.03 | EdLin | !tell eds01 -about enter |
| 22:08.04 | Rasmus99 | streuner: this is not sure |
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| 22:08.11 | deadcat | pusling: never |
| 22:08.11 | shad0wcat | pusling: haven't had one yet |
| 22:08.19 | pusling | just had one |
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| 22:08.37 | Rasmus99 | streuer: however, now i want to know how to chroot into my debian system on the harddrive from the install cd |
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| 22:08.59 | streuner | Rasmus99: you still don't listen - scroll up |
| 22:09.06 | pusling | Rasmus99: mount it; chroot /mount/point |
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| 22:09.12 | shad0wcat | heh |
| 22:09.18 | shad0wcat | streuner: just do what I do |
| 22:09.18 | Rasmus99 | pusling: thanks |
| 22:09.21 | shad0wcat | don't help him |
| 22:09.36 | c_k | bob2: any ideas on my issue then |
| 22:09.52 | bob2 | c_k: ? |
| 22:09.55 | shad0wcat | c_k: are you sure you're mounting it as ex3? |
| 22:09.58 | Rasmus99 | shad0wcat: why are you the ass in the channel? you don't help the others, you only argue, please shut up. |
| 22:09.59 | shad0wcat | and not ext2? |
| 22:10.11 | shad0wcat | Rasmus99: I help others |
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| 22:10.19 | shad0wcat | I just don't help people who don't listen |
| 22:10.19 | Rasmus99 | shad0wcat: lol |
| 22:10.23 | shad0wcat | there's a difference |
| 22:10.23 | jbmigel | Rasmus99 your funny cuz your a bitch |
| 22:10.28 | ke6isf | !beer shad0wcat |
| 22:10.30 | streuner | Rasmus99: you have good advices now, i told you |
| 22:10.39 | streuner | Rasmus99: use a knoppix CD |
| 22:10.41 | c_k | yeah but how can I be 100% sure then |
| 22:10.45 | shad0wcat | and listening involves reading wtf we're typing |
| 22:10.52 | streuner | Rasmus99: bob2 told you just use slack to repair it |
| 22:11.05 | shad0wcat | even IF it isn't what you want to hear |
| 22:11.07 | streuner | Rasmus99: What stops you to use one advice now? |
| 22:11.11 | bob2 | Rasmus99: I told you two different ways to fix it |
| 22:11.21 | shad0wcat | streuner: it's too hard or it's not the way he wants it |
| 22:11.26 | pusling | slack ? this is #debian - isn't it ? |
| 22:11.31 | ke6isf | streuner: If watching that earlier transaction with bob2 is an indication, instructing him is going to be like trying to get a vampire to take to sunlight. |
| 22:11.38 | Rasmus99 | jbmigel: it's ok when i call him an ass, shad0wcat started with offending me yesterday. |
| 22:11.42 | shad0wcat | c_k: you can always remount it ext3 |
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| 22:11.54 | shad0wcat | Rasmus99: because you run WinME |
| 22:12.01 | shad0wcat | and you STILL run WinME |
| 22:12.02 | streuner | shad0wcat: well, i told him - its not possible to file a bug report for d-i, but he don't listen |
| 22:12.03 | r3gii | ke6isf: it is a lot of staff in syslog about tooday, what should i search |
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| 22:12.14 | Rasmus99 | streuer: i use the advice now, it just takes time |
| 22:12.15 | c_k | shad0wcat: whats the easiest way to do that then |
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| 22:12.28 | ke6isf | r3gii: Anything that looks funny. Check around the time of reboot, whenabouts syslog restarted last. |
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| 22:12.34 | shad0wcat | c_k: mount -t ext3 -o remount /dev/sda1 /mnt |
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| 22:12.49 | jbmigel | Rasmus99 haha you should goto #winme then lots of help there im sure |
| 22:12.49 | Rasmus99 | shad0wcat: that's why you are an idiot and an ass, you offend people when they have WinMe on their harddrive. You're stupid. |
| 22:12.50 | ke6isf | r3gii: If you have to, look in yesterday's syslog. |
| 22:12.50 | streuner | Rasmus99: that advice is based *only* if you want use debian... |
| 22:12.54 | eXistenZ | how can I know what programs are using my alsa driver? |
| 22:13.05 | shad0wcat | Rasmus99: actually I ban them |
| 22:13.10 | ke6isf | !ops Rasmus99 is inciting flames |
| 22:13.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Rasmus99 is inciting flames |
| 22:13.21 | shad0wcat | WinME users don't even get help in Windows help channels |
| 22:13.25 | streuner | ke6isf: bob2 is here... |
| 22:13.30 | shad0wcat | that's how much we hate that os |
| 22:13.35 | c_k | dont like that says /mnt not mounted already or bad option |
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| 22:13.48 | shad0wcat | c_k: well use another directory as a mount point |
| 22:13.51 | shad0wcat | you get the general idea though |
| 22:13.53 | ke6isf | streuner: Heh. Combination of short attention span and trying to stop on the coffee. =O.o= |
| 22:13.57 | shad0wcat | you might need to unmount it too |
| 22:14.14 | shad0wcat | if it's automouted it should be in /media somewhere |
| 22:14.16 | c_k | mount: /logs not mounted already, or bad option |
| 22:14.16 | Rasmus99 | shad0wcat: you don't understand the freedom of os choice, how could you understand the freedom of Free Software? |
| 22:14.31 | shad0wcat | Rasmus99: WinME isn't an os |
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| 22:14.51 | shad0wcat | WinME is a poor excuse for one |
| 22:15.10 | shad0wcat | and most people using computers will agree |
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| 22:15.35 | eegore | Could anyone offer some advice for installing Sarge on a 64 bit machine? My machine is slowly dying and I need to replace it soon. the only viable choices now are AMD 64 bit boards. |
| 22:15.47 | jbmigel | id like to agree but this winme box keep - - - [NO CARRIER] |
| 22:15.50 | shad0wcat | simple answer, don't |
| 22:16.07 | shad0wcat | eegore: use the 32-bit version |
| 22:16.20 | shad0wcat | 64-bit debian is a big pain if you don't know a lot about linux |
| 22:16.21 | eegore | for compatibility? |
| 22:16.33 | shad0wcat | not to mention that I end up chrooting half the stuff anyway |
| 22:16.42 | eegore | why |
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| 22:16.51 | jbmigel | do they have flash yet for 64? |
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| 22:17.04 | eegore | not enough apps? |
| 22:17.05 | shad0wcat | because 32-bit apps sometimes don't like the 32bit compatibility libraries |
| 22:17.11 | shad0wcat | eegore: among other things |
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| 22:17.32 | shad0wcat | after the 10th time it stopped segfaulting |
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| 22:17.41 | eegore | use 64 bit apps on a seperate boot then? |
| 22:17.52 | shad0wcat | look |
| 22:17.55 | shad0wcat | simple answer |
| 22:17.57 | shad0wcat | if you're asking about 64bit |
| 22:17.59 | shad0wcat | don't use it |
| 22:18.00 | w3rdn4 | wEWT!!! |
| 22:18.01 | w3rdn4 | Success |
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| 22:18.05 | w3rdn4 | I got my Tv tuner working |
| 22:18.09 | shad0wcat | it's as simple as that |
| 22:18.12 | w3rdn4 | hahahaha |
| 22:18.12 | ke6isf | !beer w3rdn4 |
| 22:18.24 | jbmigel | w3rdn4 what kind of card was it? |
| 22:18.27 | meff | true, shad0wcat .. dont use it unless you have a specific need for 64bit eegore .. |
| 22:18.29 | ke6isf | shad0wcat: iyhtays, in short. =^^= |
| 22:18.32 | w3rdn4 | thank you ;0 |
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| 22:18.53 | sussudio | !bear ke6isf |
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| 22:19.01 | meff | shad0wcat: it uses alot more ram also.. and being that half my stuff was ran using dchroot.. it felt like i was maintaining two linuxes for no reason :P |
| 22:19.02 | shad0wcat | !tell c_k about msg |
| 22:19.21 | shad0wcat | meff: ram is not a problem for me |
| 22:19.27 | eegore | I will use the main boot 32 and then an alterrnate boot for "experimentation" then |
| 22:19.32 | shad0wcat | but I don't feel like recompiling half the debs to make them work |
| 22:19.51 | meff | shad0wcat: same here, i've 1.5gb, but still.. it uses about 1.5x more ram :x |
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| 22:20.21 | eegore | is there a way to specify ALSA at installation? |
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| 22:20.38 | shad0wcat | since when was alsa part of the default install anyway? |
| 22:20.46 | lra_ | once i have a deb file - how do i install it? |
| 22:20.50 | eegore | I thought it was OSS |
| 22:20.55 | meff | dpkg -i, lra_ |
| 22:21.17 | shad0wcat | since when was OSS part of the default install anyway? |
| 22:21.18 | ke6isf | lra_: apt-get tends to work better. Is there a reason you got a separate .deb? |
| 22:21.22 | eegore | Maybe I am a bit behind the times I guess |
| 22:21.27 | shad0wcat | since when was any part of the desktop stuff part of the default install? |
| 22:21.39 | lra_ | i'm trying to install scite |
| 22:21.47 | lra_ | and just downloaded the deb file from the repos |
| 22:21.55 | eegore | OK , I see |
| 22:22.03 | lra_ | should i just put the ftp server in the sources.list |
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| 22:22.52 | eegore | XORG will be in the next stable when they get the bugs out I guess |
| 22:23.01 | shad0wcat | hah next stable |
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| 22:23.13 | shad0wcat | Windows Vista will ship before etch does |
| 22:23.15 | c_k | ok guys got it working now at last |
| 22:23.32 | abrotman | shad0wcat: maybe ... |
| 22:23.42 | en1gma | sup all...man i seem to be having 1 problem after another. i do just a base install and have been adding pkgs that i want with apt-get install. what would cause everything in /mnt dir to be missing |
| 22:23.43 | eegore | At least it will be properly tested for the most part |
| 22:23.44 | bbrazil | when's etch due? |
| 22:23.50 | bbrazil | (roughly) |
| 22:23.55 | en1gma | i did 3 reinstalls and each time its not there |
| 22:23.55 | abrotman | bbrazil: WIR |
| 22:24.02 | shad0wcat | en1gma: there's not supposed to be anything in /mnt |
| 22:24.03 | shad0wcat | DUH |
| 22:24.04 | citral | haha etch polls |
| 22:24.12 | en1gma | the contents of my /mnt actually |
| 22:24.13 | citral | 2021! |
| 22:24.17 | en1gma | OMG |
| 22:24.24 | shad0wcat | there's not supposed to be anything in /mnt |
| 22:24.30 | shad0wcat | it's SUPPOSED to be empty |
| 22:24.30 | deadcat | cd |
| 22:24.31 | deadcat | cls |
| 22:24.37 | shad0wcat | unless of course you put something there |
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| 22:24.45 | en1gma | well how do u check ur cdrom or ntfs or floppy |
| 22:24.49 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about u |
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| 22:24.50 | abrotman | !tell en1gma about ur |
| 22:24.51 | eegore | it is used for legacy install programs |
| 22:25.09 | shad0wcat | en1gma: you MOUNT them |
| 22:25.10 | shad0wcat | manually |
| 22:25.18 | citral | en1gma: LOL man mount !!/ |
| 22:25.29 | shad0wcat | sigh |
| 22:25.32 | punsad | is there a file that keeps track of all packages installed? I just moved to a new hard drive and am doing a re-install. I've got my old etc directory. Hope it's in there somewhere |
| 22:25.33 | shad0wcat | this is what automounters do to people |
| 22:25.34 | en1gma | ahhh well i been doing that but aptitude isnt |
| 22:25.38 | ke6isf | en1gma: You don't absolutely *have* to mount something to /mnt/foo. |
| 22:25.41 | eegore | Some game disks need the cdrom mounted in mnt to install correctly |
| 22:25.48 | en1gma | when i try to install with aptitude its giving me mount point errors |
| 22:25.54 | abrotman | because you're stupid |
| 22:26.06 | shad0wcat | abrotman: we already established this yesturday |
| 22:26.08 | en1gma | come on man stop it with the cut downs please |
| 22:26.13 | shad0wcat | en1gma even got banned for stupidity |
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| 22:26.18 | abrotman | he should be again |
| 22:26.21 | ke6isf | en1gma: Hey, you opened yourself up to this. |
| 22:26.34 | punsad | en1gma: why not just install from net |
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| 22:26.35 | shad0wcat | and he said he transitioned from slackware |
| 22:26.39 | shad0wcat | which I highly doubt |
| 22:26.50 | shad0wcat | if you're a slackware user you should know how to use the mount command |
| 22:26.54 | jim | why? because slackware is somehow smarter/ |
| 22:26.56 | jim | ? |
| 22:27.01 | shad0wcat | jim: no |
| 22:27.02 | en1gma | im just a guy that was thinking bout switching over from slack (which i knw very will ause i been using it for 3 years) debian is its pwn bread and im trying to give it my best shot |
| 22:27.09 | pusling | hmm.. anyone knows what this means ? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext |
| 22:27.10 | shad0wcat | but slackware is every bit as manual s debian |
| 22:27.11 | abrotman | jim: because it's not idiot-proof like mandrake :) |
| 22:27.12 | pusling | and what I miss ? |
| 22:27.16 | eegore | slack has to have everything compl=iled for it if I am not mistaken |
| 22:27.22 | shad0wcat | eegore: no |
| 22:27.26 | abrotman | pusling: a library |
| 22:27.32 | en1gma | i have no problem compiling |
| 22:27.37 | shad0wcat | en1gma: then you should bloody know how to mount a cd-rom |
| 22:27.39 | shad0wcat | christ |
| 22:27.39 | en1gma | i have no problem with commands |
| 22:27.45 | shad0wcat | mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/porn |
| 22:27.45 | useruser | pusling: you want to install some -dev package, probably |
| 22:27.47 | shad0wcat | next! |
| 22:27.47 | jim | you're doing the same thing as mwilsom |
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| 22:27.51 | en1gma | i never said i didnt know how. you said that |
| 22:27.53 | ke6isf | eegore: It comes with some binaries. |
| 22:27.57 | pusling | abrotman: yeah - but whiche one, have xlibs-dev and libxext-dev |
| 22:27.58 | abrotman | pusling: libxext-dev |
| 22:28.02 | en1gma | i said my contents of /mnt was missing |
| 22:28.03 | abrotman | !tell pusling about search |
| 22:28.03 | eegore | Basics? |
| 22:28.03 | jim | I see no difference EXCEPT you're using power to ban |
| 22:28.12 | shad0wcat | en1gma: there's nothing in /mnt |
| 22:28.14 | pusling | abrotman: I have that one installed |
| 22:28.15 | shad0wcat | you don't seem to get that |
| 22:28.20 | en1gma | yes i know this now |
| 22:28.21 | shad0wcat | if you want a directory in mount go create it |
| 22:28.21 | abrotman | jim: noone here has the ability to do that |
| 22:28.25 | shad0wcat | then mount your cd-rom in there |
| 22:28.28 | punsad | is there a file that keeps track of all packages installed? |
| 22:28.32 | abrotman | pusling: and libxext6 ? |
| 22:28.33 | shad0wcat | anything else you need to be informed of? |
| 22:28.40 | eegore | ok |
| 22:28.43 | en1gma | i have been mkdir and mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs |
| 22:28.47 | en1gma | i know this stuff |
| 22:28.52 | abrotman | apparently not |
| 22:29.03 | shad0wcat | or you wouldn't be asking that question to begin with |
| 22:29.05 | jim | ok, so if he was banned for "stupidity", how was that proven, where are the logs, who did it and what were the specifics? |
| 22:29.08 | ke6isf | punsad: You can generate one. |
| 22:29.08 | pusling | abrotman: yes - also that one |
| 22:29.14 | en1gma | but i was thinking aptitude was having its problems cause the contents of /mnt was missing |
| 22:29.17 | shad0wcat | jim: he was attempting to compile a kernel |
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| 22:29.27 | en1gma | ive been compiling kernels all day |
| 22:29.28 | shad0wcat | and dondelelcaro got tired of him not listening |
| 22:29.30 | abrotman | pusling: afaik .. that's it |
| 22:29.30 | jim | and this is stupid for some reason? |
| 22:29.32 | en1gma | "not attempting" |
| 22:29.40 | ke6isf | punsad: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' |
| 22:29.45 | jim | I compile my kernels -all the time- |
| 22:29.49 | jim | and they work |
| 22:29.55 | en1gma | mine are too |
| 22:29.57 | eegore | I know a lot of people who swear by slack so I am not belittling any distro. aA distro is a matter of personal choice and the fact that paople are making that choice is the importent thing |
| 22:29.58 | abrotman | jim: you're missing the point |
| 22:30.01 | pusling | abrotman: hmm.. and still getting that error :/ |
| 22:30.02 | en1gma | its debian that is giving me probs |
| 22:30.09 | *** mode/#debian [+l 642] by debhelper |
| 22:30.10 | jim | yes, I guess I am |
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| 22:30.15 | abrotman | pusling: ldconfig ? |
| 22:30.29 | punsad | thanks ke6isf |
| 22:30.36 | abrotman | en1gma: then maybe you shouldn't use debian .. if you're really having that many problems .. perhaps you sohuld go back to slackware if you know it so well |
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| 22:30.44 | jim | because "the point" is going to tell me how this is different from what mwilson was doing before he was baned? |
| 22:30.49 | pusling | abrotman: just trying that - and trying builting again |
| 22:30.49 | jbmigel | enlgma have you inserted the cdrom before mounting drive? |
| 22:30.52 | en1gma | is there some reason why aptitude used to work and now all of a sudden its giving me mount point erros |
| 22:30.52 | eegore | I prefer Debian because it is what I am comfortable with |
| 22:30.54 | abrotman | jim: caned ? |
| 22:30.55 | en1gma | errors* |
| 22:31.00 | jim | sorry :) |
| 22:31.03 | shad0wcat | gee |
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| 22:31.07 | shad0wcat | put the cd back into the drive |
| 22:31.08 | shad0wcat | mount it |
| 22:31.08 | jim | raned! |
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| 22:31.10 | shad0wcat | and then install |
| 22:31.16 | en1gma | its in the drive |
| 22:31.16 | shad0wcat | if you selected the cd as the apt sources |
| 22:31.18 | abrotman | :) |
| 22:31.19 | shad0wcat | and you took the cd out |
| 22:31.21 | en1gma | i did |
| 22:31.24 | ke6isf | bane! |
| 22:31.25 | shad0wcat | obviously aptitude is conna complain |
| 22:31.29 | shad0wcat | gonna* |
| 22:31.33 | abrotman | jim: i can tell you the difference .. this troll has been going on for days |
| 22:32.01 | jim | oh man, I've been tigered |
| 22:32.02 | en1gma | ok you might be right i might have missed and just confused my earlier problems with aptitude cant write to cache doing read only |
| 22:32.04 | shad0wcat | and another thing |
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| 22:32.14 | abrotman | jim: see. |
| 22:32.21 | shad0wcat | if you did get your bearings in slackware |
| 22:32.29 | shad0wcat | you should know how to RTFM for debian |
| 22:32.33 | shad0wcat | start with debian reference |
| 22:32.33 | abrotman | jim: his stuff doesn't even make sense .. and he's apparently capable of speaking english given his hostmask/ISP |
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| 22:32.54 | Jon_ | Hi all, sorry to divert from the topic and all... but here goes. I have a D-Link ADSL router, which is connected to a hub, which is connected to me. I'm runnign PHLAK (debian). Every few minutes or so, I can't contact the DNS to resolve hostnames anymore - thereby killing my web access, but allowing all other services not using hostnames. Anyone know why this is happening? |
| 22:33.08 | jbmigel | eblgma now as root "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt" |
| 22:33.09 | en1gma | ok let me go try this again...im not giving up on deb i am sticking with it |
| 22:33.13 | ke6isf | What is PHLAK? |
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| 22:33.17 | abrotman | !fundamentals |
| 22:33.17 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
| 22:33.19 | iRising|CraZy`af | hey |
| 22:33.19 | abrotman | !reference |
| 22:33.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, reference is The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. |
| 22:33.20 | shad0wcat | en1gma: then go and read the documentation |
| 22:33.21 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 22:33.21 | iRising|CraZy`af | will debian detect my nVidia Gigabit integrated internet? |
| 22:33.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, refcard is http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 22:33.21 | en1gma | i know how to "mount" lol |
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| 22:33.29 | shad0wcat | iRising|CraZy`af: no |
| 22:33.35 | en1gma | i have been reading docs all day |
| 22:33.36 | iRising|CraZy`af | damnit, what linux distro will? |
| 22:33.39 | en1gma | and yesterday too |
| 22:33.42 | iRising|CraZy`af | will suse? |
| 22:33.55 | shad0wcat | iRising|CraZy`af: jeez go and compile the driver after the install |
| 22:33.56 | ke6isf | !tell iRising|CraZy`af -about nvidia |
| 22:33.57 | jim | I haven't seen anywhere where en1gma lost it emotwise... he's fairly even-toned all throughout... he's not getting pissed off even though he's getting browbeaten pretty much constantly |
| 22:34.13 | abrotman | jim: sure sign! |
| 22:34.15 | en1gma | :) |
| 22:34.17 | en1gma | this is true |
| 22:34.18 | shad0wcat | jim: you weren't here yesturday |
| 22:34.21 | Jon_ | abrotman was the fundamentals to me or someone else? |
| 22:34.21 | en1gma | i dont want booted :) |
| 22:34.24 | pusling | abrotman: still problems with the linking :/ |
| 22:34.25 | abrotman | jim: it's more fun when you keep it level .. the best trolls! |
| 22:34.29 | Jon_ | I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong :S |
| 22:34.29 | iRising|CraZy`af | ummmmmm, i dont know what your talking about |
| 22:34.30 | abrotman | Jon_: uhm .. no |
| 22:34.33 | jbmigel | iRising|CraZy`af: what is your motherboard? |
| 22:34.35 | Jon_ | Oh, ok |
| 22:34.36 | iRising|CraZy`af | compile the driver after you isntall |
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| 22:34.51 | shad0wcat | iRising|CraZy`af: how n00b are you at linux? |
| 22:34.52 | iRising|CraZy`af | chaintech nforce 4 |
| 22:34.56 | abrotman | Jon_: maybe your pppoe client is changing your DNS settings? |
| 22:34.56 | iRising|CraZy`af | very |
| 22:34.57 | en1gma | ok guys im gonna go check for maybe i dumb mistake i made earlier |
| 22:35.01 | en1gma | bbiab someday in xchat |
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| 22:35.04 | en1gma | :) |
| 22:35.04 | abrotman | pusling: then i'm out of ideas ... |
| 22:35.14 | pusling | hmm.. |
| 22:35.19 | iRising|CraZy`af | i tried debian with the full installer once and i had it on logical and it took like 15 hours to format my disk |
| 22:35.26 | Jon_ | abrotman : thanks, I'll check that out... good idea. |
| 22:35.28 | jim | shad0wcat: could you describe a bit please? |
| 22:35.29 | davut | I wana install postgresql 8.0 on debian stable |
| 22:35.32 | davut | how can I do that |
| 22:35.53 | shad0wcat | sigh |
| 22:35.53 | meff | davut: by installing it |
| 22:35.57 | jim | davut: you could build it in its default place if you want, or you could look for a back port |
| 22:35.59 | iRising|CraZy`af | Chaintech VNF4 nForce 4 Socket 939 motherboard |
| 22:36.00 | abrotman | davut: check backports.org ... |
| 22:36.07 | abrotman | !tell davut about simple sid backport |
| 22:36.09 | shad0wcat | iRising|CraZy`af: stop repeating |
| 22:36.12 | iRising|CraZy`af | sorry |
| 22:36.13 | abrotman | davut: that's another way |
| 22:36.14 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 22:36.14 | dpkg | from memory, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 22:36.15 | shad0wcat | you already got your answer |
| 22:36.22 | shad0wcat | you either build the driver after the install |
| 22:36.26 | shad0wcat | or get another network card |
| 22:36.29 | shad0wcat | next! |
| 22:36.32 | iRising|CraZy`af | uhh, i cant build driverss.. |
| 22:36.34 | iRising|CraZy`af | damn |
| 22:36.41 | jbmigel | iRising|CraZy`af: have you tried a knoppix liveCD to see if connection works? |
| 22:36.51 | shad0wcat | jbmigel: that's not the problem |
| 22:36.51 | meff | bah, he could boot off of a cd with drivers for his HW and do a debootstrap... but im not going into that one!! |
| 22:36.54 | jim | I guess it's not as bad as it could be |
| 22:36.55 | meff | ;) |
| 22:37.01 | shad0wcat | he has an nforce board |
| 22:37.04 | shad0wcat | an nforce4 board |
| 22:37.14 | shad0wcat | and nforce gigabit controllers use BINARY ONLY modules |
| 22:37.17 | jim | abrotman: are you working on your triad shapes? |
| 22:37.23 | shad0wcat | so there's not a distro from here to the moon that will have it in them |
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| 22:37.33 | iRising|CraZy`af | awww :'( |
| 22:37.39 | abrotman | jim: erm .. no .. just finding bad tabs ... |
| 22:37.47 | jbmigel | ah ok shad0wcat sorry i didnt know nforce 4 boards sucked like that.... |
| 22:37.47 | meff | shad0wcat: for my newer sk98lin that needs a patch, i rebuilt the kernel in a RIP rescue cd and debootstrap'ed off that, builded a custom kernel in the chroot and rebooted.. voila! |
| 22:38.03 | shad0wcat | jbmigel: same goes for nforce3 |
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| 22:38.15 | iRising|CraZy`af | my linksys card sucks, so im not using that crap |
| 22:38.15 | shad0wcat | meff: well ya I did the same thing to get reiserfs4 |
| 22:38.19 | jim | playing a single major triad over a click everywhere on your fingerboard will get you very better :) |
| 22:38.24 | shad0wcat | but I'm not walking him through a custom cd |
| 22:38.24 | grendal_prime | how difficult is it to set up a dialup server |
| 22:38.27 | shad0wcat | I want to sleep too |
| 22:38.29 | jim | example, C major |
| 22:38.35 | meff | shad0wcat: haha no shit.. thats why i said im not going there ;) |
| 22:38.39 | grendal_prime | say i wanted to set up this machine so i could remot into it via a modem |
| 22:38.47 | jbmigel | iRising|CraZy`af: just buy a cheap pci ethernet card for $10 and use that for now |
| 22:38.56 | jim | i wanted to set up this machine so i could remot into it via a modem |
| 22:39.06 | toonton | hello,I got a problem : I have reinstalled windows and now, I would like to have my Grub loader back... so right now, I am under a live CD ... I try to chroot my /mnt/hda2 (/) and then do a grub-install hda , but I got an error : Format of install_device not recognized .... how can I fix it? |
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| 22:39.19 | surfdue_ | hey guys |
| 22:39.24 | surfdue_ | making deb packages |
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| 22:39.31 | shad0wcat | toonton: by installing grub manually |
| 22:39.36 | surfdue_ | im on the postinst file, and i have a question |
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| 22:39.38 | shad0wcat | read the grub info page |
| 22:39.40 | iRising|CraZy`af | heh, i dont have room for a pci-e card |
| 22:39.41 | iRising|CraZy`af | :-/ |
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| 22:39.43 | thc | jim: i don't think anyone got that, but haha anyway. |
| 22:39.59 | surfdue_ | is this correct http://pastebin.com/403498 |
| 22:40.04 | Jon_ | jim : were you serious? |
| 22:40.11 | surfdue_ | for the postinst script? |
| 22:40.41 | jim | Jon_: about? |
| 22:40.51 | Jon_ | jim : aah sorry i read the wrong line to the wrong name :P |
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| 22:41.22 | jcurry | how can i make gpg not insert "BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE" into all of my signed emails? |
| 22:41.23 | Jon_ | general_prime : have you ever heard of telnet? |
| 22:41.40 | surfdue_ | is this a correct postinst script for a debian package http://pastebin.com/403498 |
| 22:41.50 | ke6isf | jcurry: why? |
| 22:42.07 | jim | surfdue_: not sure... it could be |
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| 22:42.22 | jcurry | ke6isf, because all-capital text gives me siezures? |
| 22:42.25 | surfdue_ | how do i run a command in bash? |
| 22:42.29 | surfdue_ | for the server to run |
| 22:42.34 | jcurry | ke6isf, i just don't like it :) |
| 22:42.40 | thc | jcurry: SEIZURES? |
| 22:42.41 | sussudio | ... |
| 22:42.45 | abrotman | jim: anyhting i should learn?!? |
| 22:42.46 | jim | so you want to start a server? |
| 22:42.46 | surfdue_ | i dont think you jsut put it in there like 'dpkg boo' |
| 22:42.47 | surfdue_ | :) |
| 22:42.48 | meff | jcurry: uhh thats how alot of email progs identify a GPG email.. |
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| 22:42.51 | meff | jcurry: bad idea to remove it |
| 22:42.52 | Jon_ | surfdue : haha |
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| 22:43.03 | ke6isf | jcurry: That's the standard. If you want it removed, don't sign your emails. |
| 22:43.07 | surfdue_ | jon what would be correct? |
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| 22:43.24 | jcurry | meff, but all my plain-text reading friends see the big ugly text...shoudln't that be in a header? |
| 22:43.24 | jim | abrotman: seriously interested? |
| 22:43.25 | lra_ | is there a scite # ? |
| 22:43.38 | jim | because I have A LOT of stuff if you are |
| 22:43.40 | Jon_ | surfdue : sorry, read the wrong damn line again |
| 22:43.55 | Jon_ | I keep doing that, it's not good. Maybe I need more than 5 hours sleep a night... |
| 22:44.09 | ke6isf | !coffee Jon_ |
| 22:44.12 | toonton | ok, I got a question : when I try to mount /dev/hda2 , it tells me it can't because it's not a directory |
| 22:44.21 | toonton | is it normal? |
| 22:44.23 | jcurry | meff, if it can't be removed, ok, i'll live with it, but it seems the only thing the body of an email should contain is the body...pgp stuff should be in the header |
| 22:44.29 | ke6isf | toonton: What's the exact command line you're using? |
| 22:44.29 | Jon_ | kei6isf : yeah, It's in my dietry order, don't you worry about it :P |
| 22:44.30 | meff | jcurry: you can attach a sig instead of inlining it |
| 22:44.32 | abrotman | jim: i don't need it form you .. you can just say "beatles - rocky racoon" or something :) |
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| 22:44.43 | surfdue_ | anyone? |
| 22:44.44 | jcurry | meff, aha! how would i do that? |
| 22:44.46 | surfdue_ | is this a correct postinst script for a debian package http://pastebin.com/403498 |
| 22:44.47 | Nurbs_ | jcurry: use PGP/MIME |
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| 22:45.00 | meff | jcurry: read your email prog's help docs, its diff for each one |
| 22:45.02 | jcurry | Nurbs_, i believe i do...i'm using kmail |
| 22:45.47 | jcurry | meff, by any chance, do you know how to do it in kmail? all the kde devs are europeans, and thus asleep :( |
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| 22:46.12 | toonton | ke6isf, well, I need to chroot my root partition (hda2) . so , I sould use : mnt /dev/hda2 , then chroot /dev/hda2 ... but it doenst work, because /dev hda2 is not a directory. I'm using a live cd , so my hda2 si already mounted in /mnt/hda2 ... so is it ok if I do a chroot /mnt/hda2 ?? is it the same as chroot /dev/hda2 ??? tkx mate |
| 22:46.14 | meff | jcurry: sorry dont know, mutt is my biz :) |
| 22:46.17 | jim | surfdue_: if the thing you're packaging is a server program that you might want started every boot, then you want to have a file maybe called /etc/init.d/yourpackagename which started life being copied from skeleton |
| 22:46.17 | dunstabulos | jcurry: not all europeans are asleep |
| 22:46.34 | leo_ | hi, i need to help with remote access |
| 22:46.34 | dunstabulos | jcurry: unfortunately, im not a kde dev |
| 22:46.40 | surfdue_ | jim no its a irc chat |
| 22:46.41 | jcurry | dunstabulos, kde devs are wierd like that, i know :) |
| 22:46.42 | surfdue_ | :) |
| 22:47.07 | meff | jcurry: look into the GPG options, it should be fairly simple.. just turn off inlining and make it attach the gpg sig instead |
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| 22:47.13 | leo_ | hey |
| 22:47.16 | ke6isf | toonton: One, syntax for mount is 'mount /dev/hda2 /mountpoint', where mountpoint is the full path to an empty directory. Two, since there's no Debian live CD other than Debian based, you should ask in that distribution's channel. |
| 22:47.43 | jcurry | meff, ha! easier said than done |
| 22:47.45 | leo_ | j |
| 22:47.46 | leo_ | jhhgg |
| 22:47.48 | ke6isf | toonton: Three, this would presume that, under the live CD, it really is hda2. |
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| 22:48.50 | jcurry | meff, i cannot find it anywhere :( |
| 22:49.07 | ke6isf | meff: I think inline versus attachment is a mail client thing. |
| 22:49.15 | meff | hmm |
| 22:49.16 | Gumby | anyone want a good laugh.... http://www.mistik1.net/fact.png |
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| 22:49.49 | Jon_ | Another thing - whenever I point any of my browsers to a download location they spontaneously and irretrievably crash... Anyone have any clue why? (Debian : Mozilla, Firefox + Galeon) |
| 22:50.02 | meff | jcurry: if ke6isf is correct you'll have to look around :| |
| 22:50.11 | jcurry | meff, :( |
| 22:50.45 | startxwhite | i quite like blueflops but can anyone recommend me a 2.6 floppy distro that has wireless support built in. blueflops is 2xfloppies but i do not mind a four floppy one |
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| 22:51.11 | dli | ntpdate[16610]: no server suitable for synchronization found |
| 22:51.31 | Jxpx | anyone use the nicotine here? |
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| 22:51.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you there? |
| 22:51.51 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: what was the DNS Server I was suppose to use? |
| 22:52.01 | lra_ | has anyone used scite before? |
| 22:52.12 | meff | Jxpx: you might want to add "the python slsk client" |
| 22:52.17 | meff | Jxpx: but no i dont smoke ;) |
| 22:52.20 | TwistedEmotions | *supposed |
| 22:52.22 | dli | TwistedEmotions, your ISP provides you dns |
| 22:52.24 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 22:52.24 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 22:52.27 | Jxpx | meff lol |
| 22:52.35 | Jxpx | i think the server is down |
| 22:52.45 | Jxpx | i want to comprove it , it coul be my conection only |
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| 22:53.03 | TwistedEmotions | dli: do you knopw where the DNS info is kept? |
| 22:53.06 | surfdue_ | hey in debian pacakge data.tar.gz does debian auto remove the files on apt-get remove or does the postrm file need to remove them? |
| 22:53.11 | TwistedEmotions | dli: it's in a file somewhere.. I forgot where |
| 22:53.15 | TwistedEmotions | ;P |
| 22:53.33 | lra_ | ok - i'm trying to compile a c program using scite, but it says that the compile option it uses is outdated |
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| 22:53.41 | jcurry | TwistedEmotions, dns info is usually kept in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:53.42 | lra_ | how do i change the compile options? |
| 22:54.04 | Jon_ | /etc/resolve.conf |
| 22:54.07 | Jon_ | oh, sorry jcurry |
| 22:54.15 | Jxpx | anyone use the nicotine here? |
| 22:54.26 | thc | Jxpx: yes, why. |
| 22:54.39 | Jxpx | thc are u conect now? |
| 22:54.44 | thc | Jxpx: no. |
| 22:55.00 | Jxpx | can u conect now please, to comprove if the server is down? |
| 22:55.02 | jcurry | Gumby, that is funny |
| 22:55.04 | Jxpx | :D |
| 22:55.32 | Jxpx | thc, , can u |
| 22:55.37 | thc | Jxpx: http://www.remmelt.com/slskboard/status.php |
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| 22:56.04 | Jxpx | thc, thank u , its down :S |
| 22:56.10 | parji | I'm logged into X with simple user and i want from the terminal to run an x program as root.. but it says it can't open the display .. what can i do |
| 22:56.19 | surfdue_ | how do i install a deb |
| 22:56.22 | surfdue_ | dpkg .deb ? |
| 22:56.23 | dpkg | somebody said .deb was a debian package |
| 22:56.25 | Jon_ | apt-get install <app> |
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| 22:56.31 | surfdue_ | lol |
| 22:56.31 | thc | surfdue_: dpkg -i foo |
| 22:56.34 | surfdue_ | k |
| 22:56.40 | Jon_ | or that :P |
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| 22:56.58 | pusling | are XSF in some irc-channel around ? |
| 22:57.13 | parji | It says it "connection to :0.0" refused by server |
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| 22:57.56 | Jon_ | I'm off to bed folks. Bye. |
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| 22:58.34 | huhcool | hey guys do you know of any source for SARGE that I can add to my sources.list file to get FreeNX working? |
| 22:58.53 | sussudio | wtf is freenx |
| 22:58.56 | sussudio | !freenx |
| 22:58.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, freenx is debs at http://kanotix.com/files/debian |
| 22:59.02 | parji | So how can I change that the display will let me in? |
| 22:59.29 | dunstabulos | parji gnomesu or kdesu is not an option? |
| 22:59.30 | Gumby | jcurry: not only is it funny, its darn right sad. |
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| 23:00.10 | parji | dunstabulos: I want to learn how to do it with env display |
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| 23:01.44 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you there? |
| 23:02.14 | jcurry | Gumby, i wonder what they use now, 5 years later |
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| 23:02.45 | dunstabulos | parji: sorry i don't know |
| 23:02.46 | surfdue_ | how do i pacakge a folder into a tar.gz? |
| 23:02.50 | Virtual | is there any way to limit the speed with wich apt downloads ? |
| 23:02.50 | parji | dunstabulos: ok.. |
| 23:03.12 | parji | any idea how can i run from mms://(file_name).wmv ? |
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| 23:03.41 | ke6isf | parji: totem or mplayer come to mind for wmv files. |
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| 23:03.49 | thc | parji: you need mplayer, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 23:04.04 | citral | and install w32codecs with it |
| 23:04.18 | ke6isf | surfdue_: tar -zcvf filename.tar.gz directory_name/ |
| 23:04.29 | ke6isf | surfdue_: man tar for further enlightenment. |
| 23:04.46 | dunstabulos | parji: or vlc |
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| 23:05.40 | parji | ok.. i'm getting vlc, i hope it will be good |
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| 23:06.48 | thc | i didn't know vlc played windows media. |
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| 23:07.03 | abrotman | i didn't now thc could talk |
| 23:07.04 | dpower | vlc plays all |
| 23:07.05 | thc | but then again, i wouldn't know because i avoid *.wmv files |
| 23:07.05 | abrotman | know |
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| 23:07.14 | thc | abortmint: hi |
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| 23:07.24 | abrotman | tch! |
| 23:07.28 | thc | bet ya didn't have that one higlighted! |
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| 23:07.30 | thc | err |
| 23:07.33 | thc | highlighted! |
| 23:07.38 | abrotman | htc! |
| 23:07.45 | thc | hi! |
| 23:07.56 | jim | ccup |
| 23:08.03 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: no dice on the X11 problem @_@ |
| 23:08.07 | thc | ccup? i prefer dcups |
| 23:08.15 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: X is overrated! |
| 23:08.15 | EvilSporkMan | thc: DD |
| 23:08.20 | jim | hiccup |
| 23:08.21 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i <3 firefox |
| 23:08.27 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: aalib? :) |
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| 23:08.42 | jim | zlib |
| 23:08.50 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: my best guess is some weird unstable packages are causing some bizarre conflict |
| 23:08.51 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: still in your PJs ? |
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| 23:09.00 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: no, I showered and ate dinner |
| 23:09.02 | huhcool | /quit |
| 23:09.03 | abrotman | wooho |
| 23:09.09 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: did you get a date too ? |
| 23:09.13 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: I have a meeting for engineering 100 (worst. class. ever.) in 50 minutes |
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| 23:09.16 | EvilSporkMan | of course not |
| 23:09.21 | EvilSporkMan | I can't get a date to save my life |
| 23:09.27 | thc | EvilSporkMan: just curious, what did you need from marillat's sid branch that isn't in the etch branch |
| 23:09.29 | abrotman | i think i really miss dining commons eating |
| 23:09.40 | jim | dates are good for digestion |
| 23:09.47 | EvilSporkMan | thc: there isn't (wasn't?) an amd64 etch branch |
| 23:09.48 | bbrazil | abrotman: looking at my menu for commons for next week, I doubt that |
| 23:09.48 | abrotman | you know .. all you can eat .. nothing like going through 10 bowls of lucky charms on a sunday morning :) |
| 23:09.49 | RvGaTe | helloooo party people ! |
| 23:09.53 | Tortel | Hello! |
| 23:09.54 | abrotman | bbrazil: i liked it :) |
| 23:09.58 | thc | EvilSporkMan: ah. |
| 23:09.58 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i like the waffles, personally |
| 23:10.00 | Tortel | !Hello! |
| 23:10.00 | dpkg | Hi, tortel! |
| 23:10.03 | bbrazil | abrotman: also, ye got breakfast? |
| 23:10.05 | RvGaTe | how's it hangin ! |
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| 23:10.08 | Tortel | Ok |
| 23:10.09 | abrotman | bbrazil: sunday was brunch |
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| 23:10.19 | abrotman | bbrazil: like my drunk ass was getting out of bed for breakfast :) |
| 23:10.19 | bbrazil | abrotman: ye got food on weekends? |
| 23:10.23 | EvilSporkMan | i guess i'm reinstalling and sticking with testing/stable this time...i really hate to do this |
| 23:10.34 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: or you could just fix it! |
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| 23:10.46 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i'd tell you to ask Overfiend .. but he's in spain |
| 23:10.59 | sander | /dev/hdc1: 6196/30654464 files (68.5% non-contiguous), 59573778/61277926 blocks <-- I got this after running fsck.. |
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| 23:11.04 | EvilSporkMan | I asked in #xorg and no one who was there had any idea |
| 23:11.12 | sander | does that mean some files where damaged? |
| 23:11.14 | abrotman | #freedesktop ? |
| 23:11.22 | EvilSporkMan | sander: no, that's how full the disk is |
| 23:11.31 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: someone said #xorg in #freedesktop |
| 23:11.37 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: ah ok |
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| 23:11.52 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: asking again to make usre |
| 23:12.00 | abrotman | okeedokee |
| 23:12.07 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: how about purging reinstalling X ? |
| 23:12.22 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: oh, _purging_...i reinstalled but didn't purge |
| 23:12.24 | sander | EvilSporkMan, disc is 98% full.. not 68% |
| 23:12.32 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: might help ? |
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| 23:12.55 | EvilSporkMan | sander: that fraction is how full the disk is |
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| 23:13.07 | sander | EvilSporkMan, what's the fraction part? |
| 23:13.07 | Tortel | !Guten tag! |
| 23:13.07 | dpkg | Wie geht es Ihnen? |
| 23:13.15 | abrotman | Tortel: stop with the damn bot already |
| 23:13.23 | Tortel | :( |
| 23:13.27 | sander | EvilSporkMan, i'm trying to figure out if I got some bad blocks.. or something is wrong with the disc |
| 23:13.28 | thc | dude. every f***ing day. why? |
| 23:13.31 | jdhutchin1 | use /msg if you want to talk to it more |
| 23:13.32 | abrotman | Tortel: make your own |
| 23:13.40 | sander | EvilSporkMan, since I got some i/o errors earlier.. on some files |
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| 23:13.44 | abrotman | Tortel: or use #debian-bots ... there's more than one there |
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| 23:14.10 | EvilSporkMan | sander: fraction is blocks used / blocks available; i.e. how full the disk iss |
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| 23:14.36 | sander | EvilSporkMan, yes.. but what does 68% mean? |
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| 23:14.56 | abrotman | 68% full ? |
| 23:15.12 | EvilSporkMan | sander, abrotman: no, 68% fragmented (non-contiguous) |
| 23:15.13 | sander | NO.. its from fsck.. after I forced a test |
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| 23:15.23 | EvilSporkMan | that's remarkably fragged, probably because it's so full |
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| 23:15.26 | EvilSporkMan | what fs? |
| 23:15.32 | sander | ext3 |
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| 23:15.59 | sander | does that mean I should defragment it.. or something? |
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| 23:16.06 | thc | haha what? |
| 23:16.09 | EvilSporkMan | sander: no, it means you should free some space |
| 23:16.11 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i didn't scroll up |
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| 23:16.27 | sander | I wonder too:p |
| 23:16.43 | EvilSporkMan | filesystems perform poorly when nearly full |
| 23:16.45 | EvilSporkMan | you need to free space |
| 23:16.52 | sander | so that will happen automaticly.. when I free some space? |
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| 23:16.54 | surfdue_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.55 | surfdue_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.55 | surfdue_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.56 | abrotman | thc: cut and paste! |
| 23:17.03 | Jason-Bourne | pie thong |
| 23:17.04 | surfdue_ | how do i make this package install them |
| 23:17.06 | surfdue_ | automatically? |
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| 23:17.21 | sander | EvilSporkMan, does it help.. if I free some space for a short period of time.. and then fill it again |
| 23:17.22 | sander | ? |
| 23:17.23 | thc | haha |
| 23:17.39 | EvilSporkMan | sander: a little...offloading it all to a different drive and then copying it all back at once will defrag as well |
| 23:17.49 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: purge/reinstall didn't help -_- |
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| 23:18.05 | sander | I have a lot of shit there. I need that space used:) |
| 23:18.05 | Buffy_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.06 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: maybe you missed a library? |
| 23:18.11 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: you purged xlibs? |
| 23:18.17 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i just purged xserver-xorg |
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| 23:19.05 | sander | EvilSporkMan, so how much do I need to move off the drive?.. 10%.. 30% 50%? |
| 23:19.06 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: you suck :) |
| 23:19.07 | Buffy_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:19.18 | thc | did we just get spammed? |
| 23:19.27 | abrotman | Buffy_Bot: :) |
| 23:19.27 | Buffy_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.28 | EvilSporkMan | sander: 100%? |
| 23:19.31 | thc | water sucks. gatorade is better! |
| 23:19.37 | abrotman | Jason-Bourne: why is your bot doing that ? |
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| 23:19.45 | jcurry | Buffy_Bot, you suck, :) |
| 23:19.45 | Buffy_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:19.47 | Jason-Bourne | wat wat wat that's not my bot |
| 23:19.48 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: if i purge xlibs and xserver-common as well a lot of stuff goes away...how do i make a list of it so i can reinstall it? |
| 23:19.49 | jcurry | :) |
| 23:19.50 | Jason-Bourne | lol |
| 23:19.50 | Buffy_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.50 | Buffy_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.53 | abrotman | Jason-Bourne: same hostname .. it's your bot |
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| 23:20.02 | abrotman | Jason-Bourne: kill it |
| 23:20.11 | Jason-Bourne | my host name huh? |
| 23:20.15 | Jason-Bourne | what are you talking about? |
| 23:20.21 | jcurry | Jason-Bourne, please? |
| 23:20.21 | abrotman | fine |
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| 23:20.25 | surfdue_ | how do i make my deb package install dependcies automatically? |
| 23:20.30 | Jason-Bourne | ok jcurry |
| 23:20.32 | surfdue_ | or allow the user to choose |
| 23:20.39 | ke6isf | Jason-Bourne: both are on jasonmathers.co.uk, sir. |
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| 23:20.43 | sander | EvilSporkMan, damn.. what about moving 20% away.. and back.. and then taking another 20% and moving it from/to?.. and keeping on untill i've movied everything off/on? |
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| 23:20.49 | EvilSporkMan | sander: I have no idea |
| 23:20.49 | abrotman | ke6isf: neilmathers |
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| 23:20.52 | thc | actually it's neilmathers |
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| 23:20.58 | thc | whoever that it. |
| 23:21.00 | Jason-Bourne | jcurry said please so it's history! |
| 23:21.00 | ke6isf | abrotman: Yes, that too. neilmathers rather. |
| 23:21.00 | thc | s/it/is/ |
| 23:21.04 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:21.07 | EvilSporkMan | sander: google ext3 defrag, and try ext2 defrag as well (but what's the problem?) |
| 23:21.11 | ke6isf | Jason-Bourne: What abrotman said, and both are named 'willow'. |
| 23:21.18 | jcurry | :) |
| 23:21.21 | Jason-Bourne | busted! |
| 23:21.28 | abrotman | wow .. we're so smart |
| 23:21.31 | *** part/#debian peeeiZeiue (n=xeetiuep@81.213.236.252) |
| 23:21.41 | jcurry | nah, i'm so smart, cause i said please |
| 23:21.41 | abrotman | now if only Jason-Bourne could kill the other bots |
| 23:21.43 | jcurry | :p |
| 23:21.43 | surfdue_ | anyone? |
| 23:21.46 | Jason-Bourne | hah |
| 23:21.49 | Virtual | is there any way to limit the speed with wich apt downloads ? |
| 23:21.57 | abrotman | not that bot |
| 23:21.59 | abrotman | the stupid bots |
| 23:22.03 | jcurry | oh, sorry |
| 23:22.05 | abrotman | Virtual: trickle |
| 23:22.10 | Jason-Bourne | kill all bots! |
| 23:22.18 | ke6isf | I see that the spambots are back. |
| 23:22.21 | xfan | como podria hacer un fsck de particion principal ? (no puedo desmontarla) |
| 23:22.24 | ke6isf | Or maybe it's just one last one. |
| 23:22.24 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:22.24 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:22.26 | ke6isf | !es |
| 23:22.26 | jcurry | abrotman, which ones? i have a mighty big rocket launcher sitting here, and i don't know what to do with it? |
| 23:22.35 | abrotman | jcurry: the ones that are joining duh ... |
| 23:22.39 | Jason-Bourne | buffy-bot is an information bot! |
| 23:22.40 | abrotman | peeeiZeiue (n=xeetiuep@81.213.236.252) |
| 23:22.52 | surfdue_ | hello! |
| 23:22.52 | abrotman | Jason-Bourne: i don't need to know how many smileys are counted |
| 23:22.57 | Jason-Bourne | lol |
| 23:23.22 | ke6isf | Jason-Bourne: If it is to count smilies, it should do so silently. |
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| 23:23.41 | Jason-Bourne | why it doesnt annoy people that way. :P |
| 23:23.50 | ke6isf | Jason-Bourne: Yes, exactly. |
| 23:23.51 | bbrazil | Jason-Bourne: or get your icr client to produce logs and egrep -c ':.*\)' |
| 23:24.03 | Horde | hey can anyone give me a hand with setting up my internet connection? |
| 23:24.11 | Jason-Bourne | it seems set up to me |
| 23:24.13 | Jason-Bourne | heh |
| 23:24.13 | Horde | not on THIS box but on my debian one |
| 23:24.23 | thc | Horde: probably. ask your questions. |
| 23:24.28 | jdhutchin1 | Horde, sure, if you tell us more info |
| 23:24.35 | ke6isf | !ask |
| 23:24.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 23:25.20 | Horde | thanks, uhm waht is the file that has the IP and such that the box uses to connect? |
| 23:25.26 | thc | Horde: man interfaces |
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| 23:25.36 | eegore | tThat was good a roast studded with garlic and sprinkled with oregano, moto buono |
| 23:25.41 | surfdue_ | guys |
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| 23:25.43 | surfdue_ | does anyone know? |
| 23:26.03 | thc | does anyone know what |
| 23:26.07 | ke6isf | surfdue_: If you haven't yet gotten an answer, probably not. |
| 23:26.11 | surfdue_ | how do i make the deb package im making install the dependcies automatically |
| 23:26.13 | Ronin | surfdue_: apt-get |
| 23:26.18 | surfdue_ | NO |
| 23:26.22 | surfdue_ | im making a deb package |
| 23:26.27 | surfdue_ | i already made it |
| 23:26.29 | surfdue_ | i get this error |
| 23:26.49 | surfdue_ | circe depends on libwxgtk2.6-python; however: |
| 23:26.49 | surfdue_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.06 | meff | did you alien it or something? |
| 23:27.13 | surfdue_ | wait |
| 23:27.18 | The_Vulture | surfdue_: you tried to install that with dpkg -i, right? |
| 23:27.19 | Ronin | ahh now i see |
| 23:27.20 | ke6isf | surfdue_: OK, so install the python package via apt and install circe via dpkg. |
| 23:27.24 | surfdue_ | ya |
| 23:27.25 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i purged like 41 packages |
| 23:27.26 | The_Vulture | try just running "apt-get install" now. |
| 23:27.27 | surfdue_ | i think i know why |
| 23:27.28 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: this had better work |
| 23:27.37 | surfdue_ | i have to get circle on apt-get system |
| 23:27.42 | surfdue_ | before it will work automatically? |
| 23:27.43 | surfdue_ | correct |
| 23:27.54 | ke6isf | surfdue_: Yes, that is correct. |
| 23:27.59 | surfdue_ | is there a debian developer in here? |
| 23:28.07 | meff | you could ask in #debian-mentors |
| 23:28.48 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: aaaannd it didn't |
| 23:29.36 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: backup? |
| 23:29.49 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i have /home and /opt on separate partitions, so i could just reinstall |
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| 23:30.02 | EvilSporkMan | (/opt has my ut2k4 install =D) |
| 23:30.02 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: jooc .. have you tried another user? |
| 23:30.07 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: yep |
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| 23:30.13 | abrotman | ok |
| 23:30.19 | agilman | how do I find out what device is used as my mouse? |
| 23:30.32 | agilman | I mean, my mouse is working, but I just want to know |
| 23:30.33 | EvilSporkMan | i purged xlibs, xserver-org, and xserver-common (and deps)...anything else i can do? |
| 23:30.59 | thc | agilman: look in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 23:31.09 | agilman | thanks thc |
| 23:31.10 | thc | agilman: don't touch anything in there |
| 23:31.17 | meff | chances are, /dev/input/mice agilman |
| 23:31.22 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i'm out of ideas |
| 23:31.24 | meff | if you're using 2.6 |
| 23:32.09 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: if reinstalling doesn't work, it must be hardware of some sort, right? |
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| 23:32.45 | SimonRaven | phogg: it's internally mapped to /dev/input/mice for the most part |
| 23:32.50 | meff | yep |
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| 23:32.52 | skorpionn | holas |
| 23:32.54 | Rasmus99 | gn8 |
| 23:32.56 | dob1 | hi |
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| 23:32.59 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: could be |
| 23:33.06 | skorpionn | algien q me ayude porfis |
| 23:33.19 | phogg | SimonRaven: you learn something new every day |
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| 23:33.35 | SimonRaven | phogg: hopefully :) |
| 23:33.47 | meff | phogg: its a 2.6 input centralization thing |
| 23:33.49 | dob1 | i notice a strange behaviour of vnc, for example if my vnc password is "foo" and i use "foo" and followed to "foo" any character this works as password, it is normal? |
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| 23:34.08 | dob1 | for example foo123 works |
| 23:34.51 | SimonRaven | dob1: um, that's pretty damned serious. |
| 23:34.55 | Horde | lol |
| 23:35.13 | dusk | what do you guys reccomend for ATI 3d? (im running testing and x.org) |
| 23:35.17 | SimonRaven | dob1: confirm that that's repeatable, and if it is, file a bug on it |
| 23:35.18 | phogg | meff: I like the logic of /dev/input/mice but the fact that I can't tell what kind of mouse it is from the device name bothers me a little |
| 23:35.31 | SimonRaven | dob1: and mark it is grave |
| 23:35.37 | SimonRaven | s/is/as/ |
| 23:35.42 | SimonRaven | (security) |
| 23:35.50 | dob1 | SimonRaven: try it u too if u can, i tried it with my vnc session and i have this problem |
| 23:35.57 | dob1 | just to confirm |
| 23:36.06 | meff | which vnc package dob1 ? |
| 23:36.09 | meff | there are a few |
| 23:36.54 | abrotman | u isn't a word |
| 23:37.06 | dusk | what do you guys reccomend for ATI 3d? (im running testing and x.org) |
| 23:37.06 | dob1 | vncserver 3.3.7-7 Virtual network computing server softwar |
| 23:37.11 | Nurbs | mhm |
| 23:37.29 | SimonRaven | dusk: i was told radeon 8500 and better |
| 23:37.30 | meff | dusk: throw it away and buy an nvidia.. thats my serious recommendation ;) |
| 23:37.32 | Nurbs | what are the DiffIndex and pdiff files that "apt-get update" downloads?! |
| 23:37.44 | dob1 | it is the packege of the stable distribution |
| 23:37.50 | dob1 | *package |
| 23:37.57 | SimonRaven | god damn... |
| 23:38.24 | dusk | err |
| 23:38.32 | dusk | i want to get it running, I have a 9500 |
| 23:38.33 | meff | ati are going the way of 3dfx, if they dont start making good chipsets.. |
| 23:39.00 | dusk | and i cant afford a new card |
| 23:39.16 | SimonRaven | dusk: that should ok, esp. with xorg |
| 23:39.40 | dob1 | if someone can confirm this problem with vnc i can know that it is not only a my problem |
| 23:39.43 | EdLin | dusk: you may need binary non-free drivers. |
| 23:39.58 | Nurbs | "* added support for package index diffs" lovely! :) |
| 23:39.58 | dusk | fglrx? |
| 23:40.03 | abrotman | i see SimonRaven and a bunch of 4-letter nicks |
| 23:40.04 | dusk | id rather stay away |
| 23:40.05 | SimonRaven | with a 9500? i don't think so |
| 23:40.28 | dusk | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 23:40.30 | EdLin | SimonRaven: 9200 was the highest supported by xfreee, dunno about xorg. |
| 23:40.32 | SimonRaven | (could be wrong, but i think that's supported by the free x driver) |
| 23:40.39 | dusk | and no frame buffer? |
| 23:40.46 | EdLin | s/eee/ee/ |
| 23:40.53 | SimonRaven | try usefbdev no at first |
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| 23:41.19 | SimonRaven | woohoo new apache2 :) |
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| 23:41.51 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i heard it does FTP! |
| 23:42.04 | sussudio | !do ftp |
| 23:42.29 | SimonRaven | silly boy ;p |
| 23:42.48 | phogg | dob1: I have vncserver 3.3.3r2-21 nad do not experience your problem. I am upgrading now to test it with your version |
| 23:42.56 | dusk | whats that command to check to see if direct-rendering is on? |
| 23:43.04 | abrotman | glxinfo |
| 23:43.11 | SimonRaven | glxinfo driinfo |
| 23:43.35 | drraid | Hey.. why cant i apt-get glib2? |
| 23:43.53 | dusk | Direct Rendering: no |
| 23:43.54 | dusk | wtf |
| 23:43.55 | drraid | Or actually.. how do i surpass every configure script believeing i dont have glib, when i do? |
| 23:44.31 | jdhutchin1 | drraid, maybe you need the -dev package? |
| 23:44.32 | abrotman | SimonRaven: xdriinfo ? |
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| 23:44.32 | drraid | jdhutchin1, i thought so aswell |
| 23:44.35 | SimonRaven | yeh, that's it |
| 23:44.35 | drraid | jdhutchin1, dpkg doesnt see any form of it |
| 23:44.46 | dob1 | phogg: if you want to know as client i use xvncviewer 3.3.7-7 |
| 23:44.54 | SimonRaven | dusk: a better check is the log file |
| 23:45.15 | drraid | the closest package i have found is libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1-dev |
| 23:45.19 | dusk | simon, where is that |
| 23:45.34 | jdhutchin1 | drraid, libglib2.0 ? |
| 23:45.47 | SimonRaven | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:46.01 | riddlebox | can someone help me with an error message? |
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| 23:46.03 | jdhutchin1 | drraid, apt-cache search glib2 |
| 23:46.03 | drraid | I do have that installed, yes |
| 23:46.20 | jdhutchin1 | there's a -dev package for that that you need for configure scripts |
| 23:46.31 | drraid | that shows libglib2.0, among other libraries |
| 23:46.39 | dusk | (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) |
| 23:46.44 | drraid | including the dev library |
| 23:46.50 | drraid | libglib2.0-dev - Development files for the GLib library |
| 23:47.03 | jdhutchin1 | yep, that's what you need |
| 23:47.10 | drraid | I am getting it |
| 23:47.12 | drraid | thanks ;] |
| 23:47.28 | riddlebox | can someone help me with an error message? http://pastebin.com/403546 |
| 23:47.54 | rafx | in Debian stable, i thought doing 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' would give me all the security updates. but it doesn't |
| 23:48.13 | drraid | awsome, jdhutchin. I really appreciate it |
| 23:48.21 | jdhutchin1 | rafx, you have to have the sercurity lines in your sources.list file |
| 23:48.23 | drraid | i'll use apt-cache, vs dpkg -l in the future for finding things |
| 23:48.51 | sussudio | riddlebox: this channel is for debian help only |
| 23:49.01 | jdhutchin1 | drraid, dpkg only knows about packages that have been installed, apt-cache knows about all packages in your repositories |
| 23:49.19 | drraid | Ah i see |
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| 23:49.30 | surfdue | hey |
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| 23:49.37 | surfdue | how do i fix thisE: The package circe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 23:49.46 | surfdue | how do i perminetly just remov ethis package!? |
| 23:49.51 | surfdue | its stuck all i try! |
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| 23:50.57 | phogg | dob1: I experience no such problem |
| 23:51.02 | SimonRaven | yay, some new vim fixes too |
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| 23:51.34 | riddlebox | susudio:this is on a debian box |
| 23:51.48 | dob1 | phogg: can i query you ? |
| 23:51.52 | rafx | jdhutchin1: I have security lines in sources.list. please try doing 'apt-get install awstats', and see if you get awstats-6.4-1 or awstats-6.4-1.1 (fixed CAN-2005-1527, command injection in August 2005). |
| 23:52.06 | phogg | dob1: yes |
| 23:52.07 | jdhutchin1 | rafx, I don't run stable, I have testing pretty much everywhere |
| 23:52.27 | jdhutchin1 | rafx, you can always download the deb yourself and fix it that way |
| 23:52.36 | dob1 | phogg: i can't i am not register |
| 23:52.37 | jdhutchin1 | rafx, the security updates have links to the debs |
| 23:52.51 | dob1 | phogg: my private messagges are blocked |
| 23:52.53 | SimonRaven | debian-security-announce mailing list |
| 23:52.59 | phogg | dob1: then you can't |
| 23:53.04 | SimonRaven | dob1: identify to nickserv |
| 23:53.19 | dob1 | have to register, ok |
| 23:53.41 | findmel_ | At boot time ifup runs first then pcmcia , is there any way I can bring up PCMCIA then ifup? |
| 23:53.56 | SimonRaven | findmel_: edit the symlinks |
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| 23:54.04 | SimonRaven | man update-rc.d |
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| 23:54.11 | rafx | jdhutchin1: do basically, doing 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' doesn't guarantee security updates? it was my primary reason for choosing Debian stable over other distros like CentOS |
| 23:54.13 | SimonRaven | or rcconf, sysvconfig, ... |
| 23:54.16 | findmel_ | SimonRaven, thanks |
| 23:54.31 | jdhutchin1 | rafx, usually, I think it should, I've never had that problem before though |
| 23:54.34 | servus | findmel: Items in /etc/rc#.d/ are run alphabetically. |
| 23:54.50 | jdhutchin1 | serfurj, no, they're run by their priority |
| 23:54.54 | jdhutchin1 | like S10, S20, etc |
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| 23:55.06 | Nosklo | rafx, yes, you will have security updates, providing your sources.list is configured correctly |
| 23:55.16 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: the purge + reboot must have fixed it @_@ |
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| 23:56.11 | EvilSporkMan | how do i make my middle mouse button work in X? is there some specific option? |
| 23:56.25 | abrotman | i didn't do it! |
| 23:56.25 | scruffy | rafx: check the Debian changelog for the package to make sure it wasn't fixed. you shouldn't go by the version number alone. |
| 23:56.31 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: many |
| 23:56.57 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: ok, well, somewhere in reconfiguring X and all that, the middle mouse button stopped working. my guess is the xorg.conf option |
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| 23:57.11 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: you have to tell it you have three buttons |
| 23:57.19 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: Emulate3Buttons? |
| 23:57.21 | rafx | scruffy: the changelog for stable doesn't include awstats-6.4-1.1. and it looks like someone already submitted a bug about stable not getting this fix, and the maintainer closed it without comment |
| 23:57.30 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: you don't want to emulate if you really have three buttons |
| 23:57.35 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: use 147.144.250 |
| 23:57.38 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: oh, then how do i tell it i have 3 buttons? |
| 23:57.38 | deadcat | dns ^^ |
| 23:57.44 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I got it... |
| 23:57.47 | deadcat | (= |
| 23:57.50 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: probably ddn't have it emulate three buttons |
| 23:58.01 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: turns out problem was with /etc/network/interfaces file.. |
| 23:58.09 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: eth0 wasn't setup right. |
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| 23:58.15 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ah |
| 23:58.24 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ;) Weee ty for your help |
| 23:59.03 | ]SW[Hannibal | for sarge do i have to dl all 14 discs? |
| 23:59.10 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: so what machines are going through your desktop? |
| 23:59.17 | phogg | ]SW[Hannibal: No. Get the netinst CD |
| 23:59.23 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: the lappy... |
| 23:59.27 | deadcat | o |
| 23:59.45 | ]SW[Hannibal | but it dosent work with my wifi adapter |
