| 00:00.01 | TwistedEmotions | my room mate is using the lappy... and theres no net connection in the other room.. |
| 00:00.21 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ah |
| 00:00.21 | ]SW[Hannibal | hmmm |
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| 00:03.20 | Bac9 | anyone know when the big qt/jack/arts push into etch is gona happen? |
| 00:04.04 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: heard openoffice2 is out |
| 00:04.33 | phogg | Dude. vncserver lets you in if the first 8 characters of the password are correct |
| 00:04.33 | Bac9 | TwistedEmotions: wasn't OoO out a week or two ago? |
| 00:04.39 | surfdue | hey |
| 00:04.41 | TwistedEmotions | ? |
| 00:04.43 | surfdue | E: The package circe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 00:04.43 | surfdue | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.52 | TwistedEmotions | I didn't know ;( |
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| 00:05.08 | TwistedEmotions | Bac9: same package or a new package? |
| 00:05.28 | Bac9 | TwistedEmotions: OOOv2 == OOOv2rc3 |
| 00:05.54 | Bac9 | TwistedEmotions: not in debian yet afaik |
| 00:05.57 | sussudio | @badger Bac9 |
| 00:05.57 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. i installed it on the desktop already. fucker is 231MB )= |
| 00:06.03 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 00:06.18 | Bac9 | sussudio: ? |
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| 00:06.30 | sussudio | badger. |
| 00:06.41 | Bac9 | deadcat: you wouldn't happen to know anything about qt/jack/arts push? |
| 00:06.48 | Guerin | surfdue: where is the package? |
| 00:06.53 | deadcat | Bac9: not at all. |
| 00:06.55 | surfdue | its not |
| 00:06.58 | surfdue | its a deb |
| 00:06.59 | surfdue | ? |
| 00:07.02 | surfdue | and its currupted |
| 00:07.05 | Bac9 | deadcat: o, k |
| 00:07.08 | surfdue | and now im stuck? |
| 00:07.17 | Guerin | surfdue: so where's the deb? |
| 00:07.22 | Guerin | surfdue: deb == package |
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| 00:08.06 | scruffy | rafx: ew, I looked, and it seems like 6.4-2 hasn't moved into stable yet. Over a month since close. |
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| 00:08.22 | abrotman | Guerin: wife? |
| 00:08.23 | deadcat | scruffy: gfontview |
| 00:08.32 | Guerin | scruffy: it won't make it into stable any time soon. |
| 00:08.34 | deadcat | scruffy: kinna crappy though. |
| 00:08.36 | Guerin | abrotman: ha |
| 00:08.47 | scruffy | deadcat: ah, I'll check it out! |
| 00:08.48 | Guerin | abrotman: that deb has just gone to work |
| 00:08.58 | abrotman | Guerin: good .. damn woman has to do something useful! :) |
| 00:09.14 | surfdue | its in the root folder |
| 00:09.28 | Guerin | abrotman: right ... i'd heve preferred that she stay here and make herself useful in other ways, but like Mick said ... |
| 00:09.36 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:09.39 | surfdue | Guerin, its in /root |
| 00:09.40 | Guerin | surfdue: move it to /var/cache apt/archives |
| 00:09.45 | Guerin | bah |
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| 00:09.52 | Guerin | /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 00:10.14 | Guerin | surfdue: then do apt-get install whateveryouwereinstallingbefore circe |
| 00:10.57 | scruffy | rafx: I'd try to install the testing package.. the depends look okay I think |
| 00:11.18 | surfdue | E: The package circe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 00:12.22 | rafx | scruffy: does testing branch now get security updates? it was horrible last year when it took months for some security updates to reach testing branch. another reason i went with 100% stable branch after sarge was released |
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| 00:12.55 | surfdue | E: The package circe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
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| 00:13.58 | scruffy | rafx: Yeah, it does now. And I know, it doesn't instill confidence, does it? :\ |
| 00:14.25 | surfdue | id ont care about the errors i just want to REmove this stupid deb |
| 00:14.25 | surfdue | how? |
| 00:14.30 | kzar | I know its not strictly on-topic but I have a quick question. Me and some friends are thinking of sharing an adsl connection between us but we can't seem to find anything with more than 256k upload, can you actualy get anything faster in the UK? (NTL isn't an option) |
| 00:14.55 | abrotman | kzar: a T1? |
| 00:14.58 | Jason-Bourne | probably if you're willing to pay for it |
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| 00:15.00 | rafx | scruffy: yea. what really puzzles me is why awstats-6.4-1.1 (Sept 4, 2005) didn't make it into stable if it fixes CAN-2005-1527, see http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/awstats/news/2.html |
| 00:15.01 | kzar | hehe we are students |
| 00:15.20 | abrotman | kzar: why do you need a larger upload ? |
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| 00:15.21 | kzar | I thought of a T1 as there are quite a few houses all on the same lan, we could lease it out lol |
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| 00:15.39 | kzar | well 256k between 5 - 10 gamers isn't going to give nice pings I wouldn't have thought |
| 00:15.45 | Jason-Bourne | for hiz warez0rz n pr0nz!?:!1oneoen |
| 00:15.55 | surfdue | E: The package circe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 00:15.55 | surfdue | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.57 | Jason-Bourne | heh |
| 00:16.00 | sussudio | !i'm a poor student |
| 00:16.00 | dpkg | "I'm a poor student" => Translation: My priorities lie with Beer and Pizza and hiring pr0n videos, not with paying for non-essential things. |
| 00:16.14 | kzar | thats true but we still can't afford a T1 |
| 00:16.23 | kzar | even if we didn't buy any pizza |
| 00:16.29 | dunstabulos | kzar: nildram do symmetric dsl |
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| 00:17.08 | sussudio | MioCoeOe: die fucker. |
| 00:17.09 | Jason-Bourne | dunstabulos you with nildram |
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| 00:17.28 | md5sum_home | lordy lordy... outer bands of the hurricane are starting to show up here |
| 00:17.29 | md5sum_home | :| |
| 00:18.04 | StanTheMan | referencing http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_recipient_restrictions - is it a bad idea to implement the last 3 of the HELO restrictions? Any scenarios when that might stop legitimate MTAs from sending me mail? |
| 00:18.07 | dunstabulos | Jason-Bourne: we have it at the office, just a customer, no connection with them, we are on the adsl, not the sdsl |
| 00:18.08 | scruffy | rafx: depending on the maintainer, if you send a probe to his mailbox with the CAN in the subject, he might reply |
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| 00:18.15 | Jason-Bourne | ahh yeh cool |
| 00:18.25 | StanTheMan | md5sum: batten down the hatches ;) |
| 00:18.32 | kzar | dunstabulos: that sdsl is 225 quid a month :( |
| 00:18.34 | dunstabulos | Jason-Bourne: this is a dodgy connection in my halls of residence with the firewall from hell |
| 00:18.51 | thomas_adam | dunstabulos: That's not surprising -- Soton does the same thing. |
| 00:18.53 | md5sum_home | StanTheMan: bah... cat 2 is pussy shit heh |
| 00:19.00 | StanTheMan | hehe |
| 00:19.13 | kzar | dunstabulos: same here, I have to use ntlmaps just to use apt-get, the lan in our house is 10 base t, almost all ports are blocked, i could go on :( |
| 00:19.20 | StanTheMan | nobody in #postfix to answer my simple ?s grrr |
| 00:19.40 | rafx | scruffy: it looks like a non-maintainer stepped in and marked this bug as fixed in stable http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=334833 |
| 00:19.55 | dunstabulos | kzar: didnt realise sdsl was so expensive |
| 00:20.03 | StanTheMan | any SMTP gods around? |
| 00:20.03 | Daishi | i was wondering, when i first installed debian direct rendering was working with my video card, after a little while i decided to upgrade to xorg and direct rendering was still working, but i dunno what happened, i must have done something and now it doesnt work and even a reinstall with --purge doesnt work, so anyway i was wondering if there was any easy way to just revert back to xfree86 |
| 00:20.08 | StanTheMan | plz plz |
| 00:20.26 | thomas_adam | Daishi: Which flavour of Debian? |
| 00:20.32 | Daishi | i remember when i first installed xorg i had a dialog asking me which server i wanted to be the default |
| 00:20.33 | Daishi | etch |
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| 00:20.38 | dunstabulos | kzar: dual adsl connections? |
| 00:20.39 | thomas_adam | Daishi: By and large, I'd say "no". |
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| 00:20.53 | kzar | dunstabulos: would that require two phone lines? |
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| 00:20.58 | scruffy | StanTheMan: re: postfix and helo, probably |
| 00:20.59 | Daishi | well this is pretty weird then |
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| 00:21.11 | thomas_adam | Daishi: Fixing it for Xor is not hard, if you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 00:21.14 | dunstabulos | kzar: yeah, but you might be able to get a naked adsl line |
| 00:21.23 | StanTheMan | scruffy: so, implement those 3, or do NOT implement them? |
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| 00:21.31 | kzar | dunstabulos: what do you meen by naked? |
| 00:21.31 | Daishi | i really have no idea what went wrong except now i have two lines in dmesg that dont help much in google |
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| 00:21.38 | StanTheMan | scruffy: I'm talking the ones that dont use the access list table |
| 00:21.39 | Daishi | thomas_adam: i looked through that already |
| 00:21.44 | dunstabulos | kzar: no phone service, adsl only |
| 00:21.57 | thomas_adam | Daishi: Then look through your xorg.conf file as well. |
| 00:21.58 | scruffy | StanTheMan: I'd say the last.. two are probably not a good idea. Not sure about the first of the 3 |
| 00:21.59 | kzar | dunstabulos: gotya, hmm its worth looking into thanks |
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| 00:22.15 | StanTheMan | scruffy: why? |
| 00:22.21 | scruffy | StanTheMan: too many MTAs helo with stuff like 'pooky' |
| 00:22.32 | StanTheMan | ahhhh |
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| 00:22.49 | scruffy | StanTheMan: if pooky has no IP or hostname, it would be rejected |
| 00:22.50 | thomas_adam | Daishi: You can't have looked very hard through the error file for Xorg, since it will have listed _why_ DRI isn't being used --- typically, an example would be a too greater colour-depth being used. |
| 00:22.52 | StanTheMan | scruffy: even legit ones? like big isp mail servers? |
| 00:23.12 | kzar | I have another more on topic question, I assume it would be possible to use my linux box as a router for everyone, could I get it to use two seperate adsl connection and also would it be as responsive as a little pre-made router? |
| 00:23.16 | dunstabulos | kzar:bulldog offer "up to 400kbps upstream" |
| 00:23.21 | Daishi | the only odd thing i can find is that it opens /dev/dri/card0 fine and then looks for like card[2-9] |
| 00:23.25 | scruffy | StanTheMan: pretty sure I've seen lots, yeah.. I'll go look |
| 00:23.30 | kzar | dunstabulos: can't get bulldog in my area :( |
| 00:23.50 | StanTheMan | scruffy: thx for the help |
| 00:24.41 | thomas_adam | Zen are good. |
| 00:24.45 | Jason-Bourne | bool dawg |
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| 00:25.19 | Jason-Bourne | yes 55secs for this britney spears sex tape it better be real |
| 00:25.22 | mark | Can someone provide me with a ling to a good site for sources.list ??? |
| 00:25.32 | thomas_adam | mark: apt-setup |
| 00:25.32 | scruffy | rafx: not marked fixed in stable, but marked fixed in 6.4-1.1, which seems no where to be found |
| 00:25.34 | mark | linkg = link! |
| 00:25.35 | Tortel | !sources |
| 00:25.35 | dpkg | sources are to unstable.. |
| 00:25.41 | Tortel | :( |
| 00:26.03 | thomas_adam | dpkg: no, source is Sources are too unstable. |
| 00:26.04 | dpkg | thomas_adam: okay |
| 00:26.09 | StanTheMan | kzar: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124154 |
| 00:26.39 | rafx | scruffy: this appears to be a serious oversite. Debian shouldn't be allowing a CAN security flaw allowing arbitrary command injection that was fixed over a month ago to remain in stable branch |
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| 00:27.46 | StanTheMan | kzar: if you'd rather not spend the $$, go with your Linux box. You can do it all. Just a matter of time and know-how |
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| 00:28.15 | kzar | StanTheMan: I think I might at that price :) |
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| 00:28.35 | StanTheMan | kzar: might get the Linky/Cisco, or go Linux box? |
| 00:28.51 | agilman | hello, I just installed debian and my x enviornment wouldn't work no matter how I configured it. So I copied the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file from my knoppix partition |
| 00:28.58 | kzar | StanTheMan: go with the linux box :) |
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| 00:29.04 | agilman | and now my X starts up |
| 00:29.06 | thomas_adam | agilman: Wouldn't work how? |
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| 00:29.24 | agilman | thomas_adam, it wouldn't start, would give me erros about mouse problems and stuff |
| 00:29.33 | agilman | thomas_adam but now, it starts, with the knoppix file |
| 00:29.37 | thomas_adam | agilman: So load the relevant mouse drivers. |
| 00:29.39 | agilman | but, the keyboard and mouse dont work |
| 00:29.47 | thomas_adam | agilman: Which type of mouse have you got? |
| 00:29.51 | StanTheMan | kzar: I was looking at those way back before I bought my SMC 7008ABR (which was only $75). I thought I recalled that the 8-port with dual wan was only $270. Now they show the 8 port as a single wan port.. |
| 00:29.59 | agilman | hmm, 3 button, PS/2 |
| 00:30.03 | scruffy | rafx: indeed, I'd write the maintainer and see what he has to say |
| 00:30.08 | thomas_adam | agilman: modprobe mousedev |
| 00:30.13 | abrotman | thomas_adam: !!!! |
| 00:30.26 | abrotman | !crabpastesmite thomas_adam |
| 00:30.34 | thomas_adam | agilman: And ensure that for your configured mouse it is set to /dev/psuax, and uses 'IMPS/2' as the protocol. |
| 00:30.42 | thomas_adam | abrotman: Heh. How's things? |
| 00:30.45 | rafx | scruffy: much appreciated. better for someone more experienced than me comment on this :) |
| 00:30.50 | thomas_adam | agilman: /dev/psaux, even. |
| 00:30.50 | abrotman | thomas_adam: southern fried catfish! |
| 00:30.56 | thomas_adam | abrotman: Mmmmmm. |
| 00:31.01 | scruffy | StanTheMan: can't find any that weren't rejected for other reasons. However, I do use check_helo_access hash:/etc/postfix/helo-checks, and reject things like localhost and my own local domains (because obviously they aren't me) |
| 00:31.02 | abrotman | thomas_adam: it was! |
| 00:31.09 | thomas_adam | abrotman: Lucky. |
| 00:31.20 | abrotman | thomas_adam: you could make! |
| 00:31.24 | thomas_adam | :D |
| 00:31.33 | surfdue | how do i remove this package |
| 00:31.38 | surfdue | E: The package circe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 00:31.39 | StanTheMan | kzar: AHAAA! the 8port DOES have dual WAN ports: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1115416833289%26site%3DUS&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper |
| 00:31.43 | surfdue | it is archived |
| 00:31.51 | surfdue | i need to FORCE removeit |
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| 00:31.56 | surfdue | its bugging my system up |
| 00:32.05 | surfdue | i cant do anthing till this is done |
| 00:32.06 | StanTheMan | kzar: $263 at newegg |
| 00:32.08 | Gnea | hrm |
| 00:32.14 | agilman | thomas_adam is there a way I can set it to /dev/psaux without reconfiguring the entire xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 00:32.17 | StanTheMan | kzar: decent router for the green |
| 00:32.22 | Guerin | surfdue: i told you how to fix this |
| 00:32.33 | thomas_adam | agilman: Edit the XF86Config-4 file. |
| 00:32.46 | thomas_adam | agilman: You don't need dexconf support, really. |
| 00:32.49 | kzar | StanTheMan: Yea but If we got that + 2 line instalation fees its too much really :( |
| 00:33.01 | surfdue | im sorry |
| 00:33.03 | surfdue | i didnt hear |
| 00:33.08 | surfdue | i did add to archive |
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| 00:33.12 | Gnea | s/hear/read/g |
| 00:33.13 | thomas_adam | surfdue: None of us do, on IRC. |
| 00:33.14 | surfdue | it still says its not added to archive |
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| 00:33.26 | Guerin | surfdue: move it to /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 00:33.30 | StanTheMan | kzar: what's your goal? |
| 00:33.31 | Guerin | surfdue: then do apt-get install whateveryouwereinstallingbefore circe |
| 00:33.31 | surfdue | i did! |
| 00:33.35 | surfdue | i did |
| 00:33.44 | Guerin | surfdue: ok. try apt-get install hello circe |
| 00:33.53 | Gnea | heh, he's gonna backpeddle into a tree |
| 00:33.59 | Guerin | surfdue: or whatever other package you're trying to install |
| 00:34.02 | surfdue | E: The package circe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 00:34.03 | kzar | StanTheMan: To get internet access for our house to share between us that lets us play games |
| 00:34.05 | StanTheMan | scruffy: so you filter HELO with a table? when/how do you populate YOUR table? previous spam?> |
| 00:34.32 | Guerin | surfdue: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/circe*.deb |
| 00:34.40 | StanTheMan | kzar: why dual wan ports for that? |
| 00:34.52 | StanTheMan | kzar: i mean, why two dsl lines for that? |
| 00:35.32 | kzar | StanTheMan: 256k is the max upload we can reasonably get but someone suggested getting two cheap connections instead |
| 00:35.40 | Nylira | Is it possible to config iptables so that it will specifically block 1 application in case you dont know what port it comes in on? |
| 00:35.40 | Tortel^ | w3wt |
| 00:35.43 | SimonRaven | hmm, that's a thought |
| 00:35.49 | abrotman | thomas_adam: where have you been hiding ? |
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| 00:35.54 | surfdue | Guerin, http://pastebin.com/403566 |
| 00:35.58 | surfdue | please read the error |
| 00:36.06 | SimonRaven | Nylira: no it won't do your thinking for you |
| 00:36.08 | Gnea | StanTheMan: that url comes up blank (the linksys) |
| 00:36.11 | agilman | arrr, how do I scroll up in bitchx ? :) |
| 00:36.18 | SimonRaven | pgup |
| 00:36.26 | Jason-Bourne | people still use bitchx! |
| 00:36.30 | thomas_adam | abrotman: #fvwm :) |
| 00:36.35 | kzar | I am right now Jason-Bourne |
| 00:36.40 | Gnea | Jason-Bourne: there are people that still use epic4 |
| 00:36.41 | abrotman | thomas_adam: why? |
| 00:36.42 | Jason-Bourne | argggghhh |
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| 00:36.48 | StanTheMan | kzar: what provider? what city? 256kb on upside of adsl seems really low for any provider these days |
| 00:36.56 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam! |
| 00:37.00 | thomas_adam | abrotman: I love it. I always used to hide there. :) And #ruby-lang |
| 00:37.05 | scarynetworkguy | Beeh awhile. How you been man? |
| 00:37.06 | scruffy_ | rafx: No, I meant that you might want to write (i.e. 'if I were you') |
| 00:37.06 | Nylira | SimonRaven thanks for that really useful feedback.. I dont come here for elitist answers like: search elsewhere |
| 00:37.14 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: Hey. |
| 00:37.15 | kzar | StanTheMan: well this is in the uk, its Middlesborough |
| 00:37.16 | Guerin | surfdue: is it really called circe.deb? |
| 00:37.17 | StanTheMan | Gnea: just hit the Linksys site. The newegg direct link is obviously funky |
| 00:37.17 | scruffy_ | rafx: debian-user might get more attention, too, I'm not sure. |
| 00:37.18 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: :) |
| 00:37.21 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: You know.... |
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| 00:37.28 | Gnea | StanTheMan: what about tinyurl.com? |
| 00:37.29 | surfdue | yes |
| 00:37.29 | abrotman | thomas_adam: we're just not good enough ? |
| 00:37.35 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: http://edulinux.homeunix.org |
| 00:37.38 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Aye. That I do. |
| 00:37.41 | thomas_adam | abrotman: You are. :) |
| 00:37.46 | StanTheMan | kzar: ahh |
| 00:37.55 | Guerin | surfdue: no pm. |
| 00:38.04 | surfdue | ok |
| 00:38.05 | surfdue | sorry |
| 00:38.20 | surfdue | yes its called circe.deb |
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| 00:38.27 | abrotman | thomas_adam: your fish page stopped getting bigger! |
| 00:38.28 | Guerin | surfdue: where did you get it? |
| 00:38.31 | surfdue | i made it |
| 00:38.38 | surfdue | :| |
| 00:38.39 | surfdue | lol |
| 00:38.40 | thomas_adam | abrotman: :( |
| 00:38.43 | surfdue | now i want to destroy it |
| 00:38.47 | StanTheMan | Gnea: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1123638171675&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper |
| 00:38.49 | surfdue | how do i get this thing off |
| 00:38.55 | StanTheMan | try that one |
| 00:39.00 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Congrats to your grandfolks. |
| 00:39.11 | Guerin | surfdue: ok. delete /var/lib/dpkg/info/circe.*; try again |
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| 00:39.20 | kzar | StanTheMan: Surely routing between two adsl routers wouldn't be as fast as a single line at the combined speed because connections would have to continue through one connection for a while sometimes? |
| 00:39.22 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 00:39.29 | StanTheMan | kzar: you wanting to HOST a game server behind your adsl line? |
| 00:39.43 | Gnea | StanTheMan: ok, but what i'm asking is can you make a tinyurl out of that? :) |
| 00:40.03 | StanTheMan | kzar: you can't get true bonding on adsl anyway, no matter how much you spend |
| 00:40.04 | kzar | StanTheMan: No, just play games, but I thought < 5k a second was a bit low |
| 00:40.12 | surfdue | same error |
| 00:40.37 | Guerin | surfdue: same as on pastebin? |
| 00:40.44 | surfdue | yes |
| 00:40.46 | jasonm | so i was told to use this page: http://copper.matsc.kyutech.ac.jp/~yoshi/linux/sata/index_e.html as a guide for installing debian on my pc because of issues with my nic card. |
| 00:40.50 | StanTheMan | Gnea: if that link doesn't work, it's probably user session specific. So, tiny url will prolly not work either. Just hit the linksys sight, and it's like 4 mouse clicks |
| 00:41.00 | surfdue | this stinks |
| 00:41.06 | Gnea | StanTheMan: okay - what's the model #? |
| 00:41.09 | surfdue | i cant beleive you cant just get read ofit |
| 00:41.14 | surfdue | like with a few commands |
| 00:41.22 | surfdue | -f dosnt even work. |
| 00:41.30 | surfdue | or --purge |
| 00:41.36 | jasonm | ive ran into some problems, ranging from... when im asked to put in the second cd it the installer says its the wrong disk |
| 00:41.38 | Guerin | surfdue: well, you fucked it up quite horribly |
| 00:41.41 | StanTheMan | kzar: 256kb/sec should easily be able to handle a lan party of 4-6 ppl hitting an outside FPS or RPS server game |
| 00:41.49 | surfdue | guerin there must be a way to fix it? |
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| 00:41.52 | StanTheMan | Gnea: RV082 |
| 00:42.06 | surfdue | i couldnt believe this could not be fixed |
| 00:42.12 | jasonm | and "apt-get install kernel-package libncurse5-dev libreadline4-dev bzip2" doesnt find whatever it needed from the cd's i burned. |
| 00:42.17 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Taht pic of the whole family is great. |
| 00:42.18 | surfdue | Guerin, will you ssh into my box with a minor user? |
| 00:42.19 | Guerin | surfdue: i just don't know what precisely is going wrong |
| 00:42.23 | Guerin | surfdue: no |
| 00:42.24 | Gnea | surfdue: perhaps the cd was a bad burn |
| 00:42.29 | Guerin | !shell access |
| 00:42.29 | dpkg | DON'T be a moron. Offering shell access to random people you meet on IRC is the WORST thing you can do for your box's health. Yes, even if they offer to help you or fix something. Before sharing shell access, ask yourself this: Will I be able to go over to this person and stab them in the face with a spork? If not, you probably do not want to give them access. |
| 00:42.31 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: Heh. :) |
| 00:42.32 | StanTheMan | Gnea: I almost bought it. I din need all the fancier features. I was mainly needing a rackmount, so I bought the SMC (which has been discontinued) |
| 00:42.34 | surfdue | i dont care! |
| 00:42.36 | surfdue | i need this fixed |
| 00:42.37 | Guerin | Gnea: you're just making shit up |
| 00:42.41 | surfdue | its more important then a hack. |
| 00:42.50 | Guerin | surfdue: bollocks. |
| 00:42.55 | surfdue | english? |
| 00:42.56 | surfdue | lol |
| 00:43.04 | surfdue | the system is next to me i can turn it off in a second. |
| 00:43.04 | surfdue | lol |
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| 00:43.19 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: But all this talk of family life is going to ruin my image. :) |
| 00:43.33 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: Oh? You had one, did you? :) |
| 00:43.40 | Gnea | Guerin: yeah, it happens now and then, so i buy toilet paper now and then, it works out quite well in fact |
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| 00:43.52 | StanTheMan | surfdue: what if it's attacked while you napping? |
| 00:43.57 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Well at least I used to. |
| 00:44.00 | surfdue | to bad |
| 00:44.02 | surfdue | lol |
| 00:44.11 | surfdue | there is nothing on the machine |
| 00:44.12 | Guerin | surfdue: try reinstalling circe 0.0.3a5 |
| 00:44.18 | surfdue | i did |
| 00:44.22 | surfdue | sameerror |
| 00:44.24 | Guerin | surfdue: if there's nothing on the machine, reinstall |
| 00:44.27 | kzar | StanTheMan: You think so? Its 4 - 6 people who might get this connection. All will play alot of games, but just games. I thought like 5 kbytes per person upload might be too little? |
| 00:44.36 | Gnea | wtf is circe |
| 00:44.39 | surfdue | i dont want to |
| 00:44.44 | jdhutchin1 | kzar, yeah, that's too little |
| 00:44.45 | surfdue | circe is a python irc client |
| 00:44.49 | Guerin | surfdue: replace the circe.postrm script with something that returns true |
| 00:44.53 | surfdue | im handling debian packages for it |
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| 00:45.01 | surfdue | k |
| 00:45.07 | surfdue | nothing maybe? |
| 00:45.08 | surfdue | :P |
| 00:45.08 | jasonm | any idea's? |
| 00:45.25 | sussudio | !any ideas |
| 00:45.26 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of string, a little cod liver oil, and 42 rabid badgers. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few hours! |
| 00:45.37 | kzar | jdhutchin1: do you know how much to allow per person? |
| 00:45.38 | Guerin | surfdue: ie: echo "true" > /var/lib/dpkg/info/circe.postrm |
| 00:45.45 | Guerin | surfdue: and then make that file executable |
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| 00:46.08 | Guerin | surfdue: what do you mean you're handling debian packages for it? |
| 00:46.22 | Guerin | oh god, why do people think everything needs to be reimplemented in python? |
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| 00:46.32 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: I might even get my website organised one day. |
| 00:46.36 | abrotman | thomas_adam: why? |
| 00:46.38 | cheal | PHP is the real stuff |
| 00:46.42 | thomas_adam | abrotman: Heh. |
| 00:46.45 | Guerin | thomas_adam: i keep telling myself that, too |
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| 00:46.56 | Guerin | cheal: mahaha |
| 00:46.59 | thomas_adam | Thing is, Justin, it rarely happens... |
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| 00:47.19 | cheal | Guerin: what, you only tried ASP? I'm serious, PHP rocks! |
| 00:47.31 | StanTheMan | kzar: it's more about latency than bandwidth. If you play on servers in the US, B/W won't mean dick |
| 00:47.34 | thomas_adam | The thought was there though, and that's what counts. |
| 00:47.38 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Hehe. Yeah. Mine has had many broken links for a long time now. |
| 00:47.38 | surfdue | im making the pacakge |
| 00:47.44 | Virtual | any idea why my sound is not working? I installed alsa and also ran alsaconf |
| 00:48.06 | thomas_adam | Virtual: Right... and you looked at the errors, and thought....? |
| 00:48.31 | cheal | Guerin: I'm already in PHP |
| 00:48.42 | surfdue | err |
| 00:48.42 | surfdue | brb |
| 00:48.46 | cheal | and Error : memory limit exceeded |
| 00:48.50 | Virtual | thomas_adam: what errors? I just can`t play in xmms, I can`t that CAn`t open sound error, check... |
| 00:48.55 | Guerin | cheal: heh |
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| 00:49.23 | thomas_adam | Virtual: Read that last sentence back to yourself -- does it make sense? No. What does 'cat /proc/asound/cards', say? |
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| 00:49.54 | meff | he may need the oss emulation module |
| 00:50.03 | OmegaNine | What is the X11 configuration utility bundeled with Debian 3.1? |
| 00:50.09 | Virtual | thomas_adam: [I82801BAICH2 ]: ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2 |
| 00:50.09 | Virtual | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.11 | thomas_adam | meff: Don't jump the gun. |
| 00:50.13 | meff | OmegaNine: vim ;) |
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| 00:50.41 | OmegaNine | meff, So after the install, there is no way to go back threw those steps? I have to know the name of the drivers? |
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| 00:50.52 | StanTheMan | kzar: also, two adsl lines give twice the b/w, but you won't get that in practice, and setting up true round robin load balancing with Linux will probably be very time comsuming, from a learning and troubleshooting perspective |
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| 00:50.55 | meff | OmegaNine: sure.. dpkg-reconfigure the pkg |
| 00:50.58 | thomas_adam | Virtual: modprobe snd_pcm_oss |
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| 00:51.07 | thomas_adam | Virtual: Does that help any? |
| 00:51.25 | Guerin | surfdue: i think it's fair to say that you need to get yourself a thorough understanding of how debian package management works before you start packaging |
| 00:51.25 | meff | OmegaNine: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 00:51.38 | Virtual | thomas_adam: doesn`t return anything |
| 00:51.41 | kzar | StanTheMan: Thats true but there doesn't seem to be any other option either getting a single adsl connection or getting multiple ones |
| 00:51.42 | evi|smurf | i juste upgraded from 2.6.8 to 2.6.12 and now i cant burn dvd with growisofs anymore... is there anything special i need to do? |
| 00:51.44 | thomas_adam | Virtual: It's not supposed to. |
| 00:51.57 | thomas_adam | Virtual: 'lsmod' will show it though. |
| 00:51.59 | sussudio | i hate smurfs. |
| 00:52.01 | EvilSporkMan | my middle mouse button isn't working at all in X and xev doesn't display any messages when i pressed it. the left and right buttons and the scroll functionality of the wheel work fine as buttons 1, 3,4,and5 |
| 00:52.03 | OmegaNine | meff, know what the X11 pkg is called? |
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| 00:52.13 | thomas_adam | Piggy: Yay. |
| 00:52.14 | meff | OmegaNine: 19:51:27 <meff> OmegaNine: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 00:52.16 | StanTheMan | kzar: what's the highest bandwidth adsl your provider offers? |
| 00:52.24 | StanTheMan | kzar: down/up |
| 00:52.36 | Virtual | thomas_adam: snd_intel8x0 34016 0 |
| 00:52.36 | Virtual | snd_ac97_codec 83960 1 snd_intel8x0 |
| 00:52.36 | Virtual | snd_pcm_oss 54848 0 |
| 00:52.36 | Virtual | snd_mixer_oss 19968 1 snd_pcm_oss |
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| 00:52.42 | OmegaNine | meff, Its satying its not installed, I dont think its using xorg I think its using x11 |
| 00:52.43 | sussudio | ... |
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| 00:52.52 | meff | oh |
| 00:52.56 | kzar | StanTheMan: up is 256k limit everywhere, download is like 8megabit but thats not the point really |
| 00:52.56 | meff | OmegaNine: xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:53.01 | StanTheMan | is TAB considered "white space"? or only the spacebar (ASCII 32, irrc) |
| 00:53.02 | thomas_adam | Virtual: I didn't ask to see it -- I was telling you how you could tell. |
| 00:53.09 | gravity | OmegaNine: Xorg is X11 |
| 00:53.20 | OmegaNine | meff, Pefection, if you whre a big tited blond that stood 6 foot tall I would kiss you! |
| 00:53.30 | indole | I am stymied when I attempt to install any new software with apt-get; I get the error message "Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs". What is the recommended solution? |
| 00:53.40 | meff | OmegaNine: egh, no thanks ;) |
| 00:53.42 | Virtual | thomas_adam: same error in xmms |
| 00:53.43 | StanTheMan | kzar: in that case you're hosed anyway |
| 00:53.45 | thomas_adam | indole: It tells you in the error. |
| 00:53.54 | thomas_adam | Virtual: Which is what? |
| 00:54.00 | StanTheMan | kzar: if you have 6 ppl going out to game servers on it, you should be fine |
| 00:54.38 | indole | thomas_adam: Is it safe? The error looks dire. |
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| 00:54.48 | sussudio | in soviet russia, kzar hoses you |
| 00:54.51 | meff | kzar: i suggest you buy a wrt54g(s) .. amazing routers, and killer QoS if you use a 3rd party firmware, like dd-wrt (www.dd-wrt.com) |
| 00:54.52 | StanTheMan | kzar: few games require more than 40 kilobits/sec of outbound bandwidth. 40 * 6 = 240kb/s |
| 00:54.54 | thomas_adam | indole: If you know what you're doing, sure... |
| 00:54.59 | Virtual | thomas_adam: Couldn't open audio: Please check that : Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other programs is blocking the soundcard |
| 00:55.16 | thomas_adam | Virtual: And what have you told XMMS (ugh) to use? OSS or ALSA? |
| 00:55.16 | StanTheMan | meff: you punk. You never responded to my email the other day :( |
| 00:55.25 | meff | StanTheMan: i never got it |
| 00:55.30 | StanTheMan | meff: I got it going finally though! yay! |
| 00:55.31 | thomas_adam | Virtual: Then check your permissions -- if it's OSS, are you a member of group 'audio'. |
| 00:55.39 | StanTheMan | meff: no? hmmm |
| 00:55.48 | thomas_adam | Virtual: If it's ALSA, check the perms on /dev/snd and any devices therein. |
| 00:55.52 | StanTheMan | meff: i never got a NDR... |
| 00:55.52 | abrotman | thomas_adam: do the invite!!! |
| 00:55.55 | meff | StanTheMan: rockin! good job.. but nope, i see nothing new in my inbox.. |
| 00:56.03 | thomas_adam | abrotman: Eh? |
| 00:56.04 | meff | StanTheMan: lemme check my spam filter |
| 00:56.10 | abrotman | thomas_adam: you didn't see? |
| 00:57.13 | StanTheMan | meff: OMFG, you know why it took me so long, and so much troubleshooting? didn't know I needed libsasl2 installed in addition to the sasl addon for postfix |
| 00:57.46 | StanTheMan | meff: once apt-get'd, boom, flawless |
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| 00:57.56 | meff | StanTheMan: haha that happened to me the first time! too bad i didnt get that email, i could've saved you some time :/ |
| 00:58.02 | lnxnt | good morning! |
| 00:58.10 | lnxnt | wow - everybody awake here... |
| 00:58.19 | StanTheMan | meff: maybe i fat fingered your address... |
| 00:58.24 | lnxnt | can someone help me please? with following: http://nopaste.info/index.php?id=afeb7096cc |
| 00:58.43 | OmegaNine | Thanks for all your help guys |
| 00:58.49 | meff | StanTheMan: sorry dude, you're not even in my spambox.. hm |
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| 00:59.50 | StanTheMan | meff: i just checked in my address book. no way i messed that address up ;) |
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| 01:00.16 | meff | StanTheMan: i have no clue.. toss off another one so i can see whats up.. |
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| 01:00.37 | talks | does sarge support texas instrument wireless cards? |
| 01:00.45 | thomas_adam | talks: The kernel does. |
| 01:00.47 | ordinary | Hello Debian. I have a new Ipod and I have discovered that it likes to be "ejected" before I disconnect it from my Debian box. Only the root seems to be able to do this. How do I bestow this ability on other users? |
| 01:01.01 | thomas_adam | ordinary: man 5 fstab |
| 01:01.08 | StanTheMan | meff: check you mail.log for a rejection of ramius.hardwarefreak.com or greer.hardwarefreak.com |
| 01:01.11 | talks | so i should have no problems getting online and staying online with it? |
| 01:01.19 | talks | or would i need to install seperate apps |
| 01:01.20 | StanTheMan | meff: already sent one |
| 01:01.30 | StanTheMan | meff: 30 secs ago |
| 01:01.34 | meff | oh ok |
| 01:01.37 | meff | gimme a few |
| 01:01.41 | StanTheMan | roger |
| 01:01.44 | StanTheMan | brb |
| 01:01.56 | kzar | thanks for the advice anyway, I'm going to bed |
| 01:02.13 | lnxnt | please help |
| 01:02.48 | talks | thomas_adam? |
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| 01:03.13 | StanTheMan | hay all |
| 01:04.15 | StanTheMan | any one in the St. Louis area, be mindful of a flu bug running around. With the exception of working on my postfix setup, I've been on my back (in bed) for the last 36 hours. Ran a fever of ~105 first night. Vicious motherfucker this one is...damn |
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| 01:05.15 | StanTheMan | kzar: good luck with it man |
| 01:05.18 | fbi | trippy, _all_ my media players just started playing audio files back at twice the normal speed again |
| 01:05.22 | Phated | Dude, unless it spreads on IRC, it really doesn't matter. Get some fluids, go to bed. |
| 01:05.26 | fbi | this time, logging out and back in did not fix it. |
| 01:05.36 | fbi | why does this happen? |
| 01:05.45 | thomas_adam | talks: What? |
| 01:05.50 | fbi | xmms, mplayer, and mpg321 all do it, what do they all have in common? |
| 01:05.51 | StanTheMan | phated: thx. just spreading the word (not the bug, obviously ;) |
| 01:05.54 | ordinary | Hi all. I have a new Ipod. It needs to be "ejected" before I disconnect it from my debian system. The root is able to do this using the "eject" command, but other users cant. How can I let them in on this capability? |
| 01:05.58 | talks | so i should have no problems getting online with my wireless and staying online with it? |
| 01:05.59 | talks | or would i need to install seperate apps |
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| 01:06.21 | Nach | what do you type in to update the KDE menu? |
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| 01:08.01 | Guerin | fbi: some broken sound hardware needs to be resampled up to 48khz |
| 01:08.01 | StanTheMan | sometimes I get the feeling that at the root of it (pun intended), Linux just isn't very good at being a desktop OS (from a media standpoint)--no offense anyone |
| 01:08.10 | ordinary | I should point out that users don't have trouble mounting and unmounting the ipod. "ejecting" it seems to do some magic thing. |
| 01:08.24 | Guerin | fbi: it's also something i've noticed if you have a stray oss module loaded in your alsa setup |
| 01:08.43 | Guerin | ordinary: i blame apple corp. |
| 01:09.15 | Qiang_zh | quick question. i just install a debian sarge box. for some weird reason, I can't ssh to it from the latest putty and it says that password sent/rejected in the putty log. what went wrong? |
| 01:09.16 | fbi | Guerin: there is still an oss module lurking, i'll 86 it. |
| 01:09.26 | talks | thomas_adam: so i should have no problems getting online with my wireless and staying online with it? or would i need to install seperate apps? |
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| 01:09.43 | thomas_adam | talks: What you need to do, is check. |
| 01:09.53 | thomas_adam | talks: You should use a 2.6.X kernel, at least for this. |
| 01:10.12 | Qiang_zh | oh. i can ssh to it from a redhat box just fine with the same password i used with putty. |
| 01:11.19 | fbi | Qiang_zh: sshd_config might be a good place to start. |
| 01:11.39 | Guerin | Qiang_zh: then it's putty's fault. |
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| 01:11.58 | Guerin | Qiang_zh: install cygwin ssh on the windows machine and see if that helps matters |
| 01:12.01 | Kiowas | hello |
| 01:12.04 | Qiang_zh | Guerin: i can use the same putty connect to the redhat box. |
| 01:12.18 | Guerin | Qiang_zh: so it works sometimes. |
| 01:12.23 | Qiang_zh | Guerin: yeah. i was gonna use the ubuntu live cd to try it. |
| 01:12.25 | Kiowas | anyone know if kde on unstable is supposed to have unmet dependencies right now? |
| 01:12.56 | Nach | does anyone know how to update the menu> |
| 01:12.56 | Nach | ? |
| 01:12.56 | Guerin | Kiowas: you should presume kde in unstable is broken unless otherwise confirmed by three or four independent sources |
| 01:13.12 | gravity | Nach: update-menus? |
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| 01:13.20 | Qiang_zh | Guerin: it works if i connect from the redhat box(which is not on localnetwork), doesn't work from putty on my laptop which is on localnetwork. i have looked at hosts.allow/deny. no problem |
| 01:13.32 | StanTheMan | meff: you ever get my email? |
| 01:13.35 | Kiowas | Guerin which is why Im asking here |
| 01:13.39 | Guerin | Qiang_zh: no idea, really. |
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| 01:13.57 | Guerin | Kiowas: i can't confirm. Might be better asking in #debian-kde |
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| 01:15.26 | StanTheMan | do you guys reject mail if the sending MTA has no MX record? |
| 01:15.27 | abrotman | Kiowas: #debian-kde |
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| 01:15.41 | Guerin | StanTheMan: nope. |
| 01:15.44 | StanTheMan | I'm wanting to do this, but don't know exactly if I can with 2.1.5 Postfix |
| 01:15.45 | Nach | gravity, what package is that in? |
| 01:15.47 | agilman | !exec cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 01:15.49 | dpkg | agilman: access denied! |
| 01:15.52 | abrotman | StanTheMan: #postfix |
| 01:15.55 | Guerin | StanTheMan: i probably should, but I haven't been arsed. |
| 01:15.57 | gravity | Nach: menu |
| 01:15.58 | fbi | Nach: apt-get install menu |
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| 01:16.10 | StanTheMan | abrotman: they all asleep. No one there the last two days... |
| 01:16.15 | Guerin | StanTheMan: it can be done in postfix. |
| 01:16.22 | Guerin | !they aren't there |
| 01:16.22 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel aren't helping with your non-debian problem , it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 01:16.33 | Guerin | StanTheMan: postfix is well documented |
| 01:16.34 | surfdue | bk |
| 01:16.38 | Nach | gravity, fbi: does this update the KDE menu? |
| 01:16.47 | StanTheMan | Guerin: why do you let it through with no MX? wouldn't that mean it's not a "real" legit MTA? |
| 01:16.48 | abrotman | StanTheMan: they will answer .. wiat |
| 01:17.07 | Guerin | StanTheMan: more or less. |
| 01:17.10 | StanTheMan | ;) |
| 01:17.12 | fbi | Nach: it probably takes about 15 seconds to install, try it out? |
| 01:17.17 | gravity | Nach: You probably want the menu-xdg program for that |
| 01:17.22 | surfdue | ok |
| 01:17.22 | gravity | Nach: But get both packages |
| 01:17.28 | surfdue | Guerin, how can i remove this? |
| 01:17.35 | Guerin | StanTheMan: it means that site doesn't want to recieve incoming mail; which can be a legitimate decision, but usually isn't. |
| 01:17.36 | StanTheMan | guerin: yes, i know it is. I've been reading the docs for the last 2 days lol |
| 01:17.37 | Nach | fbi, I did try it, it didn't work |
| 01:17.53 | fbi | Nach: *shrug* i don't run KDE. |
| 01:17.56 | gravity | Nach: Install menu-xdg too |
| 01:17.59 | gravity | That should do it |
| 01:18.13 | Nach | it's already there :/ |
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| 01:18.23 | gravity | Hrm |
| 01:18.28 | abrotman | StanTheMan: http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt ? |
| 01:18.37 | gravity | That should work although I don't run KDE myself to test it right now... |
| 01:18.41 | StanTheMan | Guerin: considering my postfix box, in essence, serves really only one user (me), in that case, would you enable reject_on_no_MX? |
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| 01:18.52 | fbi | Nach: are you in X right now? |
| 01:18.54 | Guerin | surfdue: there's a dangerous and dirty way of solving this |
| 01:18.59 | surfdue | ok |
| 01:19.02 | surfdue | please |
| 01:19.07 | Nach | ah it just fixed it |
| 01:19.08 | Guerin | surfdue: which I'll tell you how to do, but I won't support you if it breaks things horribly |
| 01:19.11 | Nach | added a Debian menu... |
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| 01:19.15 | surfdue | k |
| 01:19.17 | StanTheMan | Guerin: ahh....nevermind. I'm subbed to many mailing lists. Probabaly a bad idea |
| 01:19.18 | Nach | guess it took a few seconds |
| 01:19.21 | Guerin | surfdue: back up your /var/lib/dpkg/status file |
| 01:19.37 | Guerin | surfdue: dpkg -L circe |xargs rm |
| 01:19.49 | Guerin | surfdue: that should delete all the files provided by the package |
| 01:20.08 | surfdue | dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `circe' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 01:20.09 | surfdue | xargs: unmatched single quote |
| 01:20.09 | Guerin | surfdue: then open /var/lib/dpkg/status with an editor and delete the entry for circe |
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| 01:20.20 | Guerin | bah |
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| 01:20.31 | StanTheMan | Guerin: man that's a helluva confidence instilling disclaimer to surfdue |
| 01:20.34 | StanTheMan | hehe |
| 01:20.40 | lnxnt | do you know about contextfree grammers? |
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| 01:21.00 | fbi | moron. |
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| 01:21.08 | alvanson | my virgin eyes! |
| 01:21.21 | Guerin | surfdue: oh man, you're really quite fucked |
| 01:21.26 | Jason-Bourne | miko miko nurse |
| 01:21.28 | Guerin | surfdue: ok. |
| 01:21.32 | surfdue | hmm |
| 01:21.35 | surfdue | lol |
| 01:21.35 | Jason-Bourne | heh nice kkpzgwxxexk |
| 01:21.35 | StanTheMan | kkpzgwxxexk: what happened? must be bad |
| 01:21.37 | surfdue | this is crazy |
| 01:21.41 | Guerin | surfdue: grab the original package and put it in /tmp |
| 01:21.48 | sussudio | kawfee moved to california? |
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| 01:21.55 | surfdue | oh its done |
| 01:22.03 | surfdue | i can apt-get things now |
| 01:22.09 | Guerin | surfdue: eh? |
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| 01:22.17 | surfdue | says ccirce is not a package |
| 01:22.19 | surfdue | its gone? |
| 01:22.24 | Guerin | surfdue: can you apt-get remove --purge circe? |
| 01:22.25 | Phated | OMG kawfee is back? |
| 01:22.28 | surfdue | it is? |
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| 01:22.34 | Phated | Wootwoot, it was getting boring. |
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| 01:22.45 | sussudio | righto |
| 01:22.46 | surfdue | E: Couldn't find package circe |
| 01:22.47 | gravity | ugh |
| 01:22.47 | Jason-Bourne | haha |
| 01:22.51 | Jason-Bourne | :D |
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| 01:22.52 | surfdue | its gone! |
| 01:22.52 | surfdue | :) |
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| 01:22.53 | Guerin | surfdue: you win |
| 01:22.56 | Xenguy | who are these morons |
| 01:22.58 | surfdue | thank you Guerin |
| 01:22.58 | zinx | i see it's sunday again |
| 01:22.58 | thomas_adam | surfdue: apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 01:22.59 | StanTheMan | would it be safe to say that kkpz, and the rest of those nicks, got perma-banned? |
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| 01:23.03 | surfdue | thank you so much! |
| 01:23.03 | Jason-Bourne | lovely |
| 01:23.05 | surfdue | what does that do? |
| 01:23.14 | surfdue | apt-get dselect-upgrade << what is this |
| 01:23.26 | Guerin | surfdue: rebuilds your available file |
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| 01:23.39 | surfdue | guerin |
| 01:23.40 | sussudio | 4... |
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| 01:23.43 | surfdue | can i give you my package |
| 01:23.47 | surfdue | and can you take a look at it/ |
| 01:23.47 | Guerin | surfdue: no. |
| 01:23.52 | surfdue | see what could have caused this? |
| 01:23.59 | surfdue | please mate i need someone to look at it |
| 01:23.59 | sussudio | bunnies |
| 01:24.03 | Guerin | surfdue: nope, you get to do your own post-mortem |
| 01:24.04 | surfdue | i dont know what else i can do? |
| 01:24.06 | Jason-Bourne | freenode #debian is the new EFNET #teensex |
| 01:24.11 | surfdue | ok thanks though |
| 01:24.12 | surfdue | brb |
| 01:24.16 | meff | surfdue: makea chroot |
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| 01:24.17 | Guerin | surfdue: ask in #debian-mentors if you need help making debian packages |
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| 01:24.19 | Jason-Bourne | LOL |
| 01:24.22 | Jason-Bourne | lol |
| 01:24.25 | Guerin | surfdue: ask in #debian-mentors if you need help making debian packages |
| 01:24.25 | Jason-Bourne | awesome |
| 01:24.27 | StanTheMan | I guess some people need to start the new week with some kinda noobie-angst-13year_old_mentality |
| 01:24.30 | fbi | Jason-Bourne: do you really find that shit amusing? |
| 01:24.35 | Jason-Bourne | not really |
| 01:24.42 | lnxnt | dude |
| 01:24.45 | lnxnt | come on |
| 01:24.47 | lnxnt | :) |
| 01:25.02 | Jason-Bourne | heh |
| 01:25.21 | Gnea | hrm |
| 01:25.32 | Gnea | so there are motherfuckers around? :) |
| 01:25.42 | Phated | Meh, kawfee's not around, no more fun! :) |
| 01:25.44 | Guerin | surfdue: yeah. Visual Basic.NET |
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| 01:25.47 | Guerin | bah |
| 01:25.49 | StanTheMan | I'd be one if a certain couple of women would give me play |
| 01:25.58 | Jason-Bourne | this is teh aw3s0me!!1:1one |
| 01:26.03 | Guerin | StanTheMan: Visual Basic.NET |
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| 01:26.14 | sussudio | oh look, another one. |
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| 01:26.40 | fooscope_ | heh, not for long |
| 01:26.57 | StanTheMan | it's like he loads up 4 or 5 nicks connected, then fires em in parallel, like an artillery barrage |
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| 01:27.23 | sussudio | aww. spambot. |
| 01:27.35 | StanTheMan | apparently this kid isn't a fan of "smart" weapons haha |
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| 01:28.08 | StanTheMan | must be a nuclear weapons scientist's kid.... |
| 01:28.44 | N-MAN | hello hello! |
| 01:28.57 | StanTheMan | die jerk |
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| 01:29.16 | mhall | How do I change the font size in Unicode rxvt i.e. urxvt? |
| 01:29.53 | mhall | I have a 1600x1200 display so the font size right now is somewhere between insanely fucking small and quark. |
| 01:30.10 | mhall | StanTheMan: lollerskates |
| 01:30.17 | gravity | heh, lollerskate |
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| 01:30.23 | sussudio | !roflcopter |
| 01:30.23 | dpkg | http://www.roflcopter.com/ |
| 01:30.23 | jim | mhall: what display? |
| 01:30.25 | StanTheMan | mhall: donate me the display, i'll fix the prob ;_) |
| 01:30.26 | mhall | whisky tango foxtrot with this terminal |
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| 01:30.35 | jim | here we go |
| 01:30.35 | mhall | jim: Dell 2001FP |
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| 01:30.46 | jim | mhall: meetoo :) |
| 01:30.54 | treyh0 | wow |
| 01:30.57 | sussudio | i sense someone has mommy-issues. |
| 01:31.00 | mhall | jim: yeah it was easy in xterm -u8 and konsole |
| 01:31.10 | mhall | jim: but a little tricky here with urxvt |
| 01:31.13 | treyh0 | i didn't think people who had tantrums were old enough to know about IRC |
| 01:31.18 | jim | I'm saying I have the same display |
| 01:31.23 | StanTheMan | n-man we're all impressed with your l337 spam skillz. Now go suckle your mama's teet and have a good day |
| 01:31.27 | mhall | StanTheMan: lol if i had enough money i'd buy one for everybody just to be cool |
| 01:31.34 | treyh0 | thats funny |
| 01:31.37 | jim | I just made everything bigger, set and forget |
| 01:31.40 | mhall | StanTheMan: except n-man of course |
| 01:32.05 | mhall | !mhallsmite n-man's spamming instinct |
| 01:32.06 | dpkg | Fuck n-man's spamming instinct. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 01:32.08 | StanTheMan | I assume it's n-man from the "hello hello!" - not sure if it's him, just a VERY FUCKING GOOD GUESS |
| 01:32.13 | N-MAN | mhall: wtf xD |
| 01:32.23 | treyh0 | dpkg: my virgin ears |
| 01:32.26 | mhall | StanTheMan: lol |
| 01:32.30 | mhall | treyh0: hehehe |
| 01:32.33 | treyh0 | hehe |
| 01:32.52 | mhall | treyh0: arguably i'm to blame for devirginizing the bot in the first place eh? |
| 01:33.08 | treyh0 | mhall: yeah but its funnier to blame the bot |
| 01:33.09 | orchid | mhall: I use xlsfonts | less, look for a good size and do: urxvt -fn "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:pixelsize=12,xft:Andale Mono:pixelsize=11.5,9x15bold" , play with those numbers and then stick that in .Xresources |
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| 01:33.25 | mhall | orchid: thanks |
| 01:33.42 | mhall | orchid: are those MS core fonts |
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| 01:34.09 | ryanium | whats a good ftp browser for debian? |
| 01:34.12 | StanTheMan | here we go again |
| 01:34.20 | Phated | ryanium: ftp |
| 01:34.22 | orchid | mhall: that one might be actually yes, cant remeber, it looks ok though |
| 01:34.24 | treyh0 | ryanium: telnet |
| 01:34.30 | meff | ryanium: lftp |
| 01:34.34 | mhall | orchid: yee-hah seems to be working |
| 01:34.34 | Windpaw | ryanium: netcat |
| 01:34.38 | ryanium | ok whats a good graphical ftp browser lol |
| 01:34.49 | mhall | orchid: now the question is why did it make bg a horribly bright gray |
| 01:34.50 | treyh0 | ryanium: xterm -e telnet |
| 01:34.51 | sussudio | ftp browser lol? |
| 01:34.51 | jim | no, telnet isn't very good because ftp is on two ports |
| 01:34.57 | mhall | orchid: my head wants to blow up now |
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| 01:35.10 | sussudio | k. |
| 01:35.10 | ryanium | wow |
| 01:35.13 | meff | ryanium: gftp |
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| 01:35.16 | Windpaw | uhm |
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| 01:35.20 | *** mode/#debian [+o ElectricElf] by ChanServ |
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| 01:35.24 | stubbs_ | i appreciate you comment |
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| 01:35.25 | mhall | alright, i need to ignore any lines matching regex motherfucker |
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| 01:35.30 | mhall | how do i do this |
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| 01:35.32 | treyh0 | ryanium: apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
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| 01:35.36 | Seb | go ElectricElf |
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| 01:35.52 | Jason-Bourne | LOL |
| 01:35.59 | mhall | elephantman_is_m: props elf, you are mad crazy hardcore like that |
| 01:36.00 | Dasnipa` | why do they hate us? |
| 01:36.02 | orchid | mhall: I also use +sb --colorBD cyan -ls -fg grey -bg black |
| 01:36.02 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@pcp0010711031pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] by ElectricElf |
| 01:36.03 | mhall | damnit |
| 01:36.04 | StanTheMan | you know, I think banning entire dynamic IP blocks is stupid for ISPs to do, but for IRC, I'm whole heartedly in favor of block banning |
| 01:36.08 | Dasnipa` | who would have on a linux distro like that |
| 01:36.13 | Dasnipa` | stupid AOLers |
| 01:36.13 | mhall | ElectricElf: props elf, you are mad crazy hardcore like that |
| 01:36.15 | ElectricElf | mhall: Mmmhmm. :) |
| 01:36.18 | treyh0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.20 | treyh0 | heh |
| 01:36.25 | mhall | woohoo |
| 01:36.32 | ryanium | ok im sorry did someone say gftp? lol |
| 01:36.38 | meff | yup |
| 01:36.42 | StanTheMan | block banning stupid for MTAs with MX records, good thing for IRC |
| 01:36.43 | jim | and ftp |
| 01:36.54 | mhall | you know what'd be funny |
| 01:37.08 | mhall | treyh0: dl all of the irc spam code on teh intarweb |
| 01:37.19 | mhall | treyh0: and make regexes that eat all spam with the default settings |
| 01:37.26 | mhall | treyh0: and give this out as an irssi script |
| 01:37.39 | treyh0 | heh |
| 01:37.56 | mhall | treyh0: these people are so lame they are not smart enough to change the default strings even |
| 01:38.24 | k-man | whats a good gigabit ethernet card to get? one thats got good linux drivers and is quite fast? |
| 01:38.30 | StanTheMan | way to go treyh0 !!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:38.30 | fbi | what 'people'. it's one idiot with a botnet full of infected mIRC clients. |
| 01:38.43 | Seb | k-man: intel |
| 01:38.56 | k-man | seb, yeah? any particular model? |
| 01:39.02 | StanTheMan | ;) |
| 01:39.05 | Seb | k-man: anyone that uses e1000 as a driver :) |
| 01:39.05 | fbi | i'm betting the same idiot is probably in here lurking, reading everything that is said. |
| 01:39.08 | mhall | fbi: lol |
| 01:39.12 | mhall | fbi: probably |
| 01:39.16 | fbi | mhall: i'm serious |
| 01:39.18 | Seb | of course |
| 01:39.21 | StanTheMan | of course |
| 01:39.25 | mhall | fbi: now sic the fbi on him |
| 01:39.32 | fbi | haha! |
| 01:39.34 | k-man | seb, ok, thanks |
| 01:39.38 | StanTheMan | without feedback, he gets no serotonin high from it |
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| 01:39.48 | Tortel | Any suggestions for making a sound recording program work? |
| 01:39.50 | treyh0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.52 | treyh0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.53 | treyh0 | oops |
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| 01:40.01 | treyh0 | ignore pubic |
| 01:40.01 | treyh0 | lol |
| 01:40.05 | Seb | dpkg, tell Tortel about doesn't work |
| 01:40.09 | fbi | pubic? haha |
| 01:40.10 | StanTheMan | lol |
| 01:40.14 | stubbs_ | whats the path the the kernel sources i should give with KSRC? |
| 01:40.30 | StanTheMan | treyh0: you a fan of that actor or something? |
| 01:40.30 | fooscope_ | !tell exwoecicv about flood |
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| 01:40.35 | mhall | orchid: thanks for your settings orc meister |
| 01:40.35 | Seb | stubbs_: are you running a debian precompild kernel image ? |
| 01:40.39 | mhall | treyh0: freudian slip |
| 01:40.43 | treyh0 | hahaha |
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| 01:40.46 | StanTheMan | hhahhaa |
| 01:40.48 | stubbs_ | Seb: yes, 2.4.27 |
| 01:40.49 | fooscope_ | couldn't resist |
| 01:40.58 | mhall | lol no more flood |
| 01:40.59 | orchid | mhall: heh, np |
| 01:41.03 | Tortel | Ok, any suggestions for a good sound recorder? |
| 01:41.12 | Seb | stubbs_: then install kernel-headers-2.4.7-..., point to that |
| 01:41.19 | treyh0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.19 | Seb | stubbs_: 2.4.27 |
| 01:41.21 | treyh0 | that might be good too |
| 01:41.22 | mhall | orchid: btw are you any good at starcraft? |
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| 01:41.37 | stubbs_ | roughly where would that point be to? |
| 01:41.37 | orchid | mhall: I'm awesome at it |
| 01:41.43 | mhall | orchid: how ironic |
| 01:41.44 | orchid | mhall: what is starcraft? |
| 01:41.52 | mhall | orchid: troll |
| 01:41.55 | mhall | orchid: ;-) |
| 01:41.58 | stubbs_ | orchid: quite a cool game |
| 01:42.09 | orchid | mhall: ahh, I play only bzflag |
| 01:42.16 | Seb | dpkg, starcraft ? |
| 01:42.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, starcraft is a great game which would be good if it was free |
| 01:42.19 | mhall | Tortel: i think the canonical high end sound app is audacity |
| 01:42.19 | orchid | and bit of foobillard |
| 01:42.28 | Gnea | i haven't played starcraft in eons |
| 01:42.57 | Seb | if only i had a windows box... |
| 01:43.01 | Seb | just kidding |
| 01:43.02 | mhall | that's so elite that you can ignore by regex |
| 01:43.04 | stubbs_ | Seb: where would that point be going to? |
| 01:43.07 | mhall | it really rocks the casbah |
| 01:43.11 | Seb | although i'd enjoy playing starcraft :> |
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| 01:43.22 | Seb | stubbs_: /usr/src/kernel-headers-... |
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| 01:43.35 | stubbs_ | Seb: thankyou |
| 01:43.40 | Seb | stubbs_: which you could have found by doing dpkg -L kernel-headers-2.4.27-... |
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| 01:44.09 | cghsnqsy | M0ThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoThErFuCkErMoTh |
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| 01:44.12 | treyh0 | lol |
| 01:44.23 | treyh0 | join then quit |
| 01:44.25 | StanTheMan | dkpg, good+great |
| 01:44.31 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@c9110296.rjo.virtua.com.br] by ElectricElf |
| 01:44.33 | Seb | ElectricElf: go for it :) |
| 01:44.38 | treyh0 | ooooooo K: |
| 01:44.44 | StanTheMan | dkpg, good+great ? |
| 01:44.53 | StanTheMan | not in his database I gues |
| 01:45.04 | Seb | StanTheMan: he can't possibly ever admit he doesn't know about something |
| 01:45.14 | madradrone | what do Moths have to do with anything? |
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| 01:45.42 | StanTheMan | dpkg, no comment ? |
| 01:45.59 | StanTheMan | i dont think dpkg likes me lol |
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| 01:46.07 | StanTheMan | i mean, HAhA |
| 01:46.09 | EdLin | !test |
| 01:46.09 | dpkg | Yes, edlin, you're still online. |
| 01:46.09 | mhall | dpkg do i have an idiot number now? |
| 01:46.15 | fbi | you aren't doing _anything_ to trigger it. |
| 01:46.15 | StanTheMan | dpkg, lol |
| 01:46.15 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 01:46.25 | mhall | dpkg forget lol |
| 01:46.25 | dpkg | mhall: cannot alter locked factoids |
| 01:46.29 | Seb | take that |
| 01:46.33 | mhall | tittybiscuits |
| 01:47.01 | EdLin | mhall: he used to have an even more impolite lol factoid |
| 01:47.04 | mhall | yarr, konsole is mad crazy elite |
| 01:47.16 | mhall | EdLin: yeah all of the condescending factoids frustrate me after a while |
| 01:47.23 | mhall | EdLin: the larts and the smites are ok |
| 01:47.29 | StanTheMan | I'd ask dpkg about that m----------r double word, but I'm afraid of a ban |
| 01:47.35 | mhall | EdLin: but the rest of them kind of bother me |
| 01:47.39 | fbi | mhall: try quadkonsole, i had 64 terminals open in one window with it. |
| 01:47.42 | Seb | StanTheMan: ask in private |
| 01:47.53 | EdLin | !yinzersmite mhall |
| 01:47.53 | mhall | fbi: what does it do differently |
| 01:48.01 | StanTheMan | haha |
| 01:48.06 | mhall | EdLin: yes that is particularly hilarious |
| 01:48.06 | Phated | fbi: And why not screen(1)? |
| 01:48.13 | fbi | mhall: you can configure it to open rows and columns of konsoles, in a single window. |
| 01:48.17 | StanTheMan | get'em dpack, get him! |
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| 01:48.19 | StanTheMan | googogo |
| 01:48.21 | mhall | fbi: that's insane |
| 01:48.24 | fbi | Phated: just to see if it would actually work. |
| 01:48.30 | mhall | fbi: lollercoaster |
| 01:48.36 | treyh0 | haha |
| 01:48.36 | mhall | well i have savage ram + swap |
| 01:48.41 | mhall | so i could probably do it |
| 01:48.56 | mhall | my load average would be ugly though |
| 01:48.56 | morale | anyone use freenx? if so how do you get it to work, i have tried the public keys and can't get it to switch over to just password authentication. |
| 01:49.04 | mhall | what is it |
| 01:49.07 | StanTheMan | dpkg what is a yinzer |
| 01:49.08 | dpkg | StanTheMan: what are you talking about? |
| 01:49.11 | mhall | ~tell me about freenx |
| 01:49.18 | mhall | StanTheMan: pittsburgh resident |
| 01:49.28 | StanTheMan | i wanted to hear dpkg say it |
| 01:49.28 | mhall | StanTheMan: that speaks in the english slang local to that area |
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| 01:49.40 | StanTheMan | I know, say it yesterday |
| 01:49.56 | StanTheMan | dpkg do you know what you are talking about? |
| 01:50.08 | mhall | dpkg do the safety dance |
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| 01:50.10 | StanTheMan | that's what I thought, ya schmuck |
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| 01:50.24 | mhall | you sure dpkg isn't a schmendrick |
| 01:50.26 | mhall | oy vey |
| 01:50.38 | StanTheMan | dpkg as far as bots go, I guess you're not all *that* bad |
| 01:50.47 | Bac9 | anyone know when the big qt/jack/arts push into etch is gona happen? |
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| 01:50.56 | mhall | merely cracktastic, not full-on bad |
| 01:51.08 | mhall | Bac9: ? |
| 01:51.12 | mhall | Bac9: what is this |
| 01:51.22 | Bac9 | mhall: what is what? |
| 01:51.23 | mhall | Bac9: already again just after the C++ ABI changes |
| 01:51.31 | mhall | Bac9: this change, what is it |
| 01:51.39 | mhall | Bac9: i want to avoid my box getting foobarred ;-) |
| 01:51.47 | Bac9 | mhall: it's the last part of the big change |
| 01:51.54 | mhall | Bac9: *gulp* |
| 01:51.54 | StanTheMan | where'd the court jester go? I'm so yearning screenfulls of juvenile bullshit. I want it baaaack! |
| 01:52.01 | mhall | StanTheMan: ssh |
| 01:52.06 | mhall | StanTheMan: don't tempt fate |
| 01:52.12 | Bac9 | mhall: abi and gnome got in, waiting for parts of kde then the rest of kde |
| 01:52.19 | StanTheMan | hehehee |
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| 01:52.33 | mhall | Bac9: hmm my kde is working right right now |
| 01:52.44 | mhall | Bac9: i probably avoided this by going with experimental kde |
| 01:52.52 | mhall | Bac9: so i think perhaps i am not affected |
| 01:52.55 | Bac9 | mhall: I am talking about etch/testing |
| 01:53.22 | mhall | Bac9: *whew* i should have read that more carefully |
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| 01:53.46 | Bac9 | mhall: you happen to know when it's gona get to etch? |
| 01:53.57 | StanTheMan | anyone ever notice how we sometimes put things off in life that we actually have wanted to do for a while, and then we're forced to? that's pretty much me and my postfix mail firewall/relay story of the last couple days |
| 01:54.52 | mhall | Bac9: hmm |
| 01:54.53 | StanTheMan | damn dynamic IP MTA blocking big ISPs finally forced my hand! thx guys....sorta |
| 01:54.54 | cheal | Bac9: ask #debian-kde |
| 01:54.56 | StanTheMan | hehe |
| 01:55.03 | mhall | Bac9: i'm thinking debian-kde as well |
| 01:55.16 | mhall | Bac9: if you get lucky there will be a friendly kde dev |
| 01:55.21 | Bac9 | cheal: I don't really care as much for kde as qt and jack as they're holding back a few apps |
| 01:55.26 | mhall | but friendly kde dev is somewhat of an oxymoron much of the time |
| 01:55.29 | Bac9 | cheal: but I'll ask |
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| 01:55.54 | mhall | StanTheMan: heh |
| 01:55.56 | StanTheMan | dpkg oxymoron ? |
| 01:55.56 | dpkg | oxymoron is, like, Microsoft Works or Best Buy or Military Intelligence or PowerMac or good floppies. Open Software Foundation, or religious school. Windows New Technology (NT). American humour |
| 01:56.00 | Bac9 | mhall: k, thanx |
| 01:56.09 | mhall | StanTheMan: i've been putting this parser off since a while |
| 01:56.16 | mhall | StanTheMan: because the prof and the text are sux |
| 01:56.22 | mhall | StanTheMan: so the assignment makes negative sense |
| 01:56.38 | mhall | it sucks the sense out of my brain and prevents me from using it to do work in my other courses |
| 01:56.39 | StanTheMan | mhall: and what forced your hand? |
| 01:56.43 | mhall | it's completely craptastic |
| 01:56.55 | mhall | StanTheMan: fear of failing a once per yr. course required for graduation |
| 01:57.14 | mhall | StanTheMan: but at least i scheduled a study break with a hot redhead |
| 01:57.25 | mhall | StanTheMan: so it could be a great deal worse than it is |
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| 01:57.44 | Tortel | well, time for sleep |
| 01:57.47 | StanTheMan | mhall: write a paper explaining why that is so, hand it to the prof, and he'll give you an A+ (or F), depending on his view of the world (and young angst-ridden students) |
| 01:57.52 | Tortel | Night all! |
| 01:57.59 | guru | does anyone here run debian on a laptop? |
| 01:58.02 | mhall | StanTheMan: why what is so? |
| 01:58.02 | Tortel | Night all! |
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| 01:58.17 | findmel | guru, I do, configured yesterday in one day.. less than 5 hours |
| 01:58.32 | StanTheMan | mhall: why having to do the project stinks |
| 01:58.37 | guru | findmel: how do you calibrate your battery? |
| 01:58.43 | Lanix | how do i know if i have cups install or not ? |
| 01:58.47 | guru | i've searched google high and low to no avail |
| 01:59.01 | guru | Lanix: http://localhost:631 |
| 01:59.04 | findmel | guru, no idea what you mean by calibrate |
| 01:59.21 | StanTheMan | mhall: oh! regarding the redhead, it could really get worse if you dont wrap the jimmy |
| 01:59.26 | Lanix | yes , and i do that and it says refuse |
| 01:59.27 | StanTheMan | ;) |
| 01:59.34 | guru | findmel: when you get a new battery you must calibrate it in order for it to report it's charge level correctly |
| 01:59.56 | Lanix | what would be the pkg for cups ? |
| 01:59.58 | fbi | Lanix: dpkg -l cupsys |
| 02:00.06 | mhall | guru: StanTheMan you really are on something aren't you |
| 02:00.10 | StanTheMan | cupsize what? |
| 02:00.13 | mhall | ttick: DON'T DO THAT |
| 02:00.13 | findmel | guru, ok. no idea about that. |
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| 02:00.30 | guru | mhall: huh? |
| 02:00.47 | Lanix | un cupsys <none> (no description available) <<< i only see that |
| 02:00.52 | findmel | guru, apctest? |
| 02:00.55 | fbi | Lanix: bingo. |
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| 02:01.10 | guru | findmel: hmm...one sec and i'll try |
| 02:01.25 | Lanix | so what would me the pkg for cups ? |
| 02:01.36 | fbi | Lanix: uh, the one i just told you to search for |
| 02:01.37 | StanTheMan | dpkg -l cupsys -- cup size |
| 02:01.37 | dpkg | No packages found matching cupsys -- cup size |
| 02:01.46 | StanTheMan | sry, mind wondering |
| 02:01.47 | fbi | dude, stop adding to the confusion |
| 02:01.52 | fbi | learn how to msg the bot |
| 02:02.03 | StanTheMan | we need more computer jargon with a sexual undertone |
| 02:02.05 | StanTheMan | hehe |
| 02:02.13 | Lanix | sorry |
| 02:02.19 | Lanix | thank you |
| 02:02.20 | findmel | Lanix, apt-cache search cups |
| 02:02.21 | fbi | Lanix: i wasn't talking to you |
| 02:02.23 | guru | findmel: nope, that's to check the status of your ups |
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| 02:02.34 | guru | findmel: i want to calibrate my laptop's battery |
| 02:02.36 | Lanix | ups |
| 02:02.40 | Lanix | haha |
| 02:02.43 | findmel | guru, hmm |
| 02:02.53 | StanTheMan | i wasn't meaning to msg him, just quoting fib |
| 02:02.55 | mhall | dpkg, sex? |
| 02:02.55 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 02:02.55 | StanTheMan | fbi that is |
| 02:03.03 | mhall | StanTheMan: that's not enough for you there |
| 02:03.14 | Jason-Bourne | heh |
| 02:03.17 | Lanix | apt-get install cupsys <<< i did that |
| 02:03.21 | fbi | can you guys msg the bot so we all don't have to read that crap over and over? |
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| 02:03.31 | Lanix | is that right |
| 02:03.34 | phobos | hello |
| 02:03.51 | fbi | Lanix: yes, that should also pull whatever else it depends on |
| 02:04.02 | Lanix | ok thx |
| 02:04.03 | fbi | i'm gonna go watch the kings game and get drunk. |
| 02:04.03 | Lanix | :-) |
| 02:04.05 | IRCzito | Somebody has the Laudatio font? and can send me? |
| 02:04.11 | StanTheMan | omfg I'm crying.....hadn't heard that from dpkg before |
| 02:04.34 | phobos | can anybody help me setting up the hotkeys of my notebook in kde? i don't know how how hotkeys and khotkey and stuff work together |
| 02:04.40 | StanTheMan | that made my day |
| 02:05.05 | amphi | phobos: you may find linux-laptop.net and/or tuxmobil.org have useful info |
| 02:05.17 | StanTheMan | i haven't laughed that hard in quite a while. dpkg should do standup hehe |
| 02:05.37 | amphi | !pal StanTheMan |
| 02:05.42 | IRCzito | Somebody has the Laudatio font? and can send me? |
| 02:05.44 | mhall | phobos: best bet is to ask #kde |
| 02:05.58 | mhall | phobos: there were some dudes in there the other day who helped me config a compose key |
| 02:06.47 | StanTheMan | dpkg, fellatio? |
| 02:06.47 | dpkg | it has been said that fellatio is what an aoler will never get |
| 02:07.05 | StanTheMan | so true |
| 02:07.09 | Phated | StanTheMan: If you want to play with the bot, /msg it. |
| 02:07.10 | phobos | ok, i will try that. thx a lot |
| 02:07.21 | findmel | ~ops stantheman |
| 02:07.22 | StanTheMan | ok, im done |
| 02:07.56 | StanTheMan | honestly, the bot can't do any better than the sex response |
| 02:08.09 | findmel | !ops stantheman |
| 02:08.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: stantheman |
| 02:08.52 | StanTheMan | what's the gravity bit? do i dare ask? |
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| 02:10.38 | StanTheMan | got really quiet all the sudden |
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| 02:11.15 | StanTheMan | somebody drop a silent but deadly over the channel? |
| 02:11.18 | phobos | is there any other tool than showkeys to read the keycodes of hotkeys? |
| 02:11.18 | treyh0 | lol |
| 02:11.22 | treyh0 | sorry :( |
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| 02:11.52 | StanTheMan | was my feed temporarily muted? |
| 02:13.01 | amphi | phobos: in console? |
| 02:13.58 | StanTheMan | oh hay, I forgot to mention this the other day when I was building my postfix box |
| 02:14.11 | IRCzito | Somebody has the Laudatio font? and can send me? |
| 02:14.21 | StanTheMan | how many ground pins can a Seagate 40GB parallel ATA drive go without? |
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| 02:14.52 | StanTheMan | oh, come on, someone answer |
| 02:15.03 | StanTheMan | at least a smart arse answer or two |
| 02:15.23 | phobos | amphi: doesn't matter |
| 02:15.51 | StanTheMan | I know you're all dying to know the answer |
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| 02:16.16 | phobos | StanTheMan, all expept 1 |
| 02:16.34 | StanTheMan | phobos: at least, 1 |
| 02:16.35 | StanTheMan | lol |
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| 02:16.41 | StanTheMan | i mean, HAHHAHh |
| 02:16.41 | amphi | phobos: there's xev if you're in X - what are these keys? |
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| 02:16.59 | amphi | StanTheMan: how many have you snapped off? |
| 02:17.00 | douglas- | greetings. |
| 02:17.16 | StanTheMan | i busted PIN 19 (or 22, not sure due to orientation) and the drive is working fine |
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| 02:17.36 | phobos | StanTheMan, shouldn't matter |
| 02:17.46 | StanTheMan | with the generic ATA driver. The intel PIIX4 driver didn't like the missing pin so well. Or didn't like something anyway |
| 02:17.53 | douglas- | I'm bootstraping debian for a Virtualization, and everything works, no errors, but when I do a ps aux I see ini and not init like I do on my other debian boxes. is this normal? |
| 02:18.14 | phobos | amphi, i can't read the keys in X. probably I need an xmodmap entry? |
| 02:18.26 | StanTheMan | phobos: I lucked out. Pins 19 and 22 are both ground pins haha |
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| 02:18.48 | StanTheMan | phobos: I checked a diagram before I plugged it it |
| 02:18.57 | amphi | phobos: showkey gives you anything? |
| 02:19.00 | phobos | StanTheMan, lol. but there are so many ground pins on it. one missing shouldn't matter at all |
| 02:19.04 | StanTheMan | phobos: i figured, wth, it has like 8 of them hehe |
| 02:19.06 | phobos | amphi, yep, for the most keys |
| 02:19.31 | phobos | StanTheMan, +2 on the power connector ;) |
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| 02:19.51 | StanTheMan | ahhahhaa |
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| 02:21.58 | StanTheMan | "what two big ground pins you have" said Little Red Riding hook to the big bad Barracuda ATA |
| 02:22.11 | meff | sigh |
| 02:22.20 | StanTheMan | what is it meff? |
| 02:22.29 | StanTheMan | you ever get that email? |
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| 02:22.59 | StanTheMan | Oct 23 20:14:27 greer postfix/smtp[707]: 59D883DA161: to=<meff@pobox.com>, relay=mx-all.pobox.com[208.210.124.73], delay=5, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as D4FC78098C) |
| 02:23.13 | meff | yes i got it |
| 02:23.18 | meff | but not the one from yesterday |
| 02:23.19 | StanTheMan | oh |
| 02:23.21 | StanTheMan | sry then |
| 02:23.28 | StanTheMan | that's understandable |
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| 02:24.13 | StanTheMan | meff: btw, thanks again for your help with postfix. Couldn't have done it without ya. :) |
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| 02:25.38 | meff | StanTheMan: np |
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| 02:27.51 | douglas- | anyone know why debian is showing ini and not init? |
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| 02:28.39 | douglas- | everything works fine. just missing a T wonder if its a typo I made in some file or something |
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| 02:29.28 | StanTheMan | how long has the setiathome package installer been broken? |
| 02:29.45 | StanTheMan | got lots of errors installing it just now |
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| 02:30.26 | StanTheMan | ahhh...it pulled it from the lab. Their package is broken dangit |
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| 02:31.30 | alan_ | hello |
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| 02:32.23 | alan_ | can anyone help me with a sound problem? I have no sound ... im using a creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA |
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| 02:32.53 | Jason-Bourne | check your ears you might be deaf |
| 02:32.54 | StanTheMan | aha I bet the debian package is for the classic client. They pulled it. Have to use boinc now. |
| 02:33.02 | abrotman | they made an awe64 isa ? |
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| 02:33.10 | amphi | alan_: did you try running alasaconf ? |
| 02:33.17 | StanTheMan | How should I go about notifying the package maintainer? |
| 02:33.21 | alan_ | one sec |
| 02:33.32 | sussudio | abrotman: http://www.ixbt.com/short/2k3-08/awe64-ct4520-1.jpg |
| 02:33.33 | abrotman | StanTheMan: email ? |
| 02:33.39 | EdLin | alan_: here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer. |
| 02:33.54 | StanTheMan | abrotman: duh. Where do I find his/her address? |
| 02:33.56 | abrotman | sussudio: ew |
| 02:33.56 | douglas- | all my other servers show init[2] but this one just shows ini |
| 02:34.01 | douglas- | whats going on? |
| 02:34.04 | alan_ | it says no such program |
| 02:34.07 | abrotman | StanTheMan: the package should have .. dpkg -I <pkg> ? |
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| 02:34.14 | alan_ | i do have alsa installed though |
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| 02:34.27 | abrotman | !isapnp |
| 02:34.27 | dpkg | i guess isapnp is a nifty utility that lets you configure your ISA PnP cards (which themselves are evil) in linux, or apt-get install isapnptools then pnpdump, or http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ |
| 02:34.32 | StanTheMan | douglas-: sounds like your box may have gotten pwn3d |
| 02:34.40 | douglas- | naa its brand new |
| 02:34.54 | StanTheMan | hmmm |
| 02:35.15 | douglas- | heh |
| 02:35.16 | douglas- | found it |
| 02:35.18 | StanTheMan | douglas-: the hardware, the install of deb, or both? |
| 02:35.19 | douglas- | its getty issues |
| 02:35.20 | douglas- | :) |
| 02:35.23 | StanTheMan | koo |
| 02:35.28 | StanTheMan | nothin serious. good |
| 02:35.31 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: what was that recommendation for made for the bandwidth limiter? |
| 02:35.36 | abrotman | trickle |
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| 02:36.03 | Flammifer | How would I convert text files from one encoding ("cj936") to unicode ? |
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| 02:36.20 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: thanks ;) |
| 02:37.03 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: looking to limit speed on a whole card... like eth0.. set it to a lower speed.. |
| 02:37.11 | Flammifer | dpkg tells me unicode is THE DEVIL. That doesn't bode well ^-^ |
| 02:37.25 | aravind | hi, I need some help with udev. I have a udev rule set to create a symlink for eth0 and eth1. However, the udev test fails because it fails this test. "test -e /sys/class/net/eth1/driver" |
| 02:37.30 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: oh .. uhm .. i think iptables can .. google should know |
| 02:37.44 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: ahh kk will google ;) |
| 02:38.03 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: google "linux bandwidth limit interface" |
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| 02:38.22 | aravind | is there something I am missing, or do udev aliases for net devices simply not work? |
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| 02:39.09 | abrotman | s/ aliases for net devices// |
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| 02:41.16 | nekostar | bbiab |
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| 02:45.50 | javuchi` | just incredible how much people is in this room! |
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| 02:46.15 | hytt | aravind> t. "test -e /sys/class/net/eth1/driver" , ==> test -e /sys/class/net/eth0/device/driver |
| 02:46.25 | hytt | eth1 |
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| 02:46.51 | aravind | hytt: right, but I don't write that test. udev does |
| 02:47.14 | aravind | hytt: I just found that info from the udev info logs. |
| 02:47.33 | hytt | its not the right path |
| 02:47.36 | hytt | :/ |
| 02:47.58 | aravind | hytt: yup, but how do I fix it? |
| 02:48.07 | hytt | no lol |
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| 02:48.35 | mhall | douglas-: what a funny error |
| 02:48.40 | hytt | aravind> maybe you need to look into the udev script who did this test |
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| 02:49.08 | BibTeX | hello |
| 02:49.14 | BibTeX | I have question on USB |
| 02:49.30 | BibTeX | I have an external USB drive |
| 02:49.45 | BibTeX | I have USB2.0 |
| 02:49.59 | BibTeX | transfering 580 MB of data is taking forever |
| 02:50.05 | BibTeX | more than 45 min |
| 02:50.09 | BibTeX | is it normal |
| 02:50.09 | BibTeX | ? |
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| 02:50.33 | hytt | same in usb 1 its more fast lol |
| 02:50.45 | BibTeX | sorry |
| 02:50.46 | BibTeX | ? |
| 02:50.59 | hytt | wich FS on it? |
| 02:51.05 | BibTeX | ext 3 |
| 02:51.16 | amphi | BibTeX: that seems long |
| 02:51.26 | BibTeX | amphi: yes |
| 02:51.39 | hytt | cut with a lot of littles files, fat16/fat32 are more long to copy |
| 02:51.43 | hytt | but ext3 :/ |
| 02:52.11 | BibTeX | each file is more than 8 MB and my hard drives buffer is 8 MB |
| 02:52.14 | BibTeX | what do you think |
| 02:52.23 | BibTeX | ? |
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| 02:52.43 | hytt | its odd |
| 02:54.08 | BibTeX | how can I check wether the connection is USB 2.0 or USB 1.1 |
| 02:54.08 | BibTeX | ? |
| 02:54.27 | abrotman | dmesg might know |
| 02:54.34 | BibTeX | I typed |
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| 02:54.43 | BibTeX | dmesg|grep usb |
| 02:54.44 | hytt | BibTeX> usbview, is nice |
| 02:54.48 | abrotman | grep -i usb |
| 02:54.49 | amphi | BibTeX: it should be mentioned in the log, from when you plugged it in - 'full speed' means 1, 'high speed' means 2 |
| 02:55.16 | BibTeX | usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 |
| 02:55.34 | amphi | BibTeX: ;( |
| 02:55.55 | BibTeX | I am sure that my PC is USB 2.0 |
| 02:56.04 | abrotman | is the device though ? |
| 02:56.05 | BibTeX | the BOX says USB 2.o for the HD |
| 02:56.37 | abrotman | 2.0 |
| 02:56.39 | abrotman | not 2.o |
| 02:56.40 | BibTeX | how could it choose USB 1 instead |
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| 02:57.38 | BibTeX | USB View |
| 02:57.59 | BibTeX | is saying that my device is USB 2.0 but the chosen speed is Full speed |
| 02:58.06 | BibTeX | how can we play with this |
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| 02:58.13 | BibTeX | maybe when mounting |
| 02:58.14 | BibTeX | ? |
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| 02:59.15 | hytt | maybe your module |
| 02:59.16 | alan_ | dpkg: i installed isapnptools and ran pnpdump... what next? |
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| 02:59.51 | hytt | BibTeX> lsmod |grep eh |
| 03:00.23 | BibTeX | lsmod|grep eh |
| 03:00.25 | BibTeX | ?? |
| 03:00.31 | hytt | no |
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| 03:00.50 | hytt | respect the syntax and sapce |
| 03:00.55 | hytt | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.01 | hytt | type this in your console |
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| 03:01.02 | alan_ | pnpdump found my soundcard, but im not sure what to do now |
| 03:01.12 | BibTeX | pciehp 83948 0 |
| 03:01.12 | BibTeX | pci_hotplug 30640 2 shpchp,pciehp |
| 03:01.20 | hytt | ok |
| 03:01.38 | hytt | you dont have the right module for usb2.0 then |
| 03:01.42 | Phated | hytt: it doesn't matter, I think. |
| 03:01.59 | hytt | ehci_hcd <=== you need this one |
| 03:02.04 | phobos | anyone with intel HDA audio here? I would like to know how i can change my audio line mappings because the headphone is mapped to my mic jacket and the integrated speakers of my notebook don't work at all |
| 03:02.15 | BibTeX | knowing that the same plug of USB is downloading the photos from the camera in 5 minutes |
| 03:02.25 | phobos | im using latest alsa drivers btw. |
| 03:02.40 | hytt | try this maybe: |
| 03:02.42 | hytt | modprobe ehci_hcd |
| 03:02.44 | BibTeX | may we get a module with apt? |
| 03:03.06 | amphi | BibTeX: you're running the install kernel? |
| 03:03.13 | alan_ | Vendor Id CTL00e4, Serial Number 428256844, checksum 0x3E. |
| 03:03.13 | alan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.21 | BibTeX | amphi: I didn't get it |
| 03:03.38 | amphi | BibTeX: the kernel installed when you installed debian? |
| 03:03.47 | BibTeX | amphi 2.6 |
| 03:03.52 | hytt | modprobe ehci_hcd |
| 03:03.55 | hytt | try it |
| 03:04.04 | amphi | BibTeX: so modprobe ehci_hcd should work |
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| 03:04.16 | amphi | BibTeX: no need for apt |
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| 03:04.58 | BibTeX | then now should I unplug then plug aagain? |
| 03:05.25 | hytt | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.26 | terr | I think I found a bug in "units" Can anyone give me a hand with a conversion. If I should ask elsewhere plaese advise? |
| 03:05.42 | douglas- | hey I'm getting an error on bootup |
| 03:05.44 | douglas- | Cannot change to /var/spool/cron/atjobs: Permission denied |
| 03:05.51 | BibTeX | ehci_hcd 27908 0 |
| 03:05.51 | BibTeX | usbcore 104164 6 ehci_hcd,usb_storage,uhci_hcd,ndiswrapper |
| 03:05.57 | hytt | ok its nice |
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| 03:06.10 | BibTeX | should I unplug? |
| 03:06.16 | hytt | BibTeX> umount and mount your device now |
| 03:06.21 | douglas- | what can I do to fix that? |
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| 03:06.49 | BibTeX | hytt: ok, I c. but why other devices on the same USB port, such as the digi cam, are working faster |
| 03:06.50 | BibTeX | ? |
| 03:06.58 | StanTheMan | good lordy why didn't I clean this box earlier.....must have been a few months ....nasty |
| 03:07.09 | hytt | works in usb1 i think |
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| 03:07.16 | BibTeX | amphi: what do you think |
| 03:07.26 | FlimFlamMan | is it possible to mount a partition at two locations at the same time?? |
| 03:08.10 | hytt | BibTeX> and now, transfert rate have increase? |
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| 03:08.42 | BibTeX | Actually I haven'e tried it yet, I was wainting for your answer on another question |
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| 03:08.56 | BibTeX | I will try it as soon as the copy process ends |
| 03:09.00 | BibTeX | and I will let you know |
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| 03:11.09 | borourke | Can anyone tell me whether dm-crypt filesystems are still vulnerable to watermark attacks? |
| 03:11.23 | surfdue | ok guys what do i need to get gnome to start automatically and run a login screen |
| 03:11.28 | surfdue | i apt-get gnome already |
| 03:11.31 | surfdue | what else? |
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| 03:12.14 | hytt | FliesLikeABrick> yes you can |
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| 03:13.29 | wobbler | surfdue: you can do that with gdm |
| 03:15.24 | BibTeX | hytt: no man |
| 03:15.35 | BibTeX | hytt: the speed is still 12mb |
| 03:15.43 | surfdue | k |
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| 03:16.25 | hytt | ok |
| 03:16.29 | hytt | dunno why :/ |
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| 03:16.52 | amphi | BibTeX: what does your log show when you plug it in? |
| 03:17.58 | BibTeX | usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 |
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| 03:18.07 | BibTeX | TOO WEIRD |
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| 03:19.05 | BibTeX | amphi: what do you think |
| 03:19.05 | BibTeX | ? |
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| 03:20.16 | amphi | BibTeX: no idea, I'm afraid - have you asked google about the drive? |
| 03:20.35 | BibTeX | no |
| 03:20.36 | BibTeX | I will |
| 03:20.51 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know if I can add shapecfg commands to /etc/networking/interfaces? |
| 03:21.08 | hytt | usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 |
| 03:21.24 | hytt | a mp3 key usb |
| 03:21.36 | BibTeX | hytt: no |
| 03:21.43 | BibTeX | hytt: hard drive |
| 03:21.47 | BibTeX | 200 GB |
| 03:21.52 | hytt | its my line |
| 03:22.00 | hytt | my key |
| 03:22.01 | hytt | :p |
| 03:22.35 | BibTeX | hytt sorry |
| 03:23.12 | hytt | his name said usb2.0, but usbview see usb1.1 into the device, do big lies for marketting sometime |
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| 03:26.33 | paroneayea | anyone have any idea where mysql_install_db should be on debian, or what package should provide it? |
| 03:27.04 | cheal | paroneayea: /usr/bin/mysql_install_db |
| 03:27.07 | amphi | paroneayea: mysql-server |
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| 03:28.39 | paroneayea | thanks |
| 03:29.01 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you there? |
| 03:29.09 | TwistedEmotions | !seen deadcat |
| 03:29.09 | dpkg | deadcat is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 26598 messages. Is idling for 3h 20m 35s |
| 03:29.59 | BibTeX | hytt, amphi: is there any way to choose whether we want USB2.0 or USB 10.. in other words, force the usage of USB 2.0 |
| 03:30.01 | BibTeX | ? |
| 03:30.08 | cheal | !tell TwistedEmotions about msg the bot |
| 03:30.15 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to use shaper heh? |
| 03:30.34 | TwistedEmotions | cheal: bah.. I used one command |
| 03:30.53 | Hugo | hi |
| 03:30.54 | TwistedEmotions | I just need to limit download speed on a port.. ;P |
| 03:31.09 | TwistedEmotions | errr.. not port. I mean a device... eth0 |
| 03:31.11 | cheal | TwistedEmotions: same for me |
| 03:31.20 | TwistedEmotions | cheal: heh? |
| 03:31.21 | hytt | dunno, if module ehci is here, the system choice itself i think, else maybe hardware not compatible usb2.0 + linux |
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| 03:31.57 | TwistedEmotions | cheal: you need to limit download speed on eth0 too? |
| 03:32.17 | cheal | TwistedEmotions: I was referring to "bah.. I used one command" |
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| 03:33.09 | TwistedEmotions | cheal: oh.. shut up then |
| 03:33.20 | spdf | debian ludwig- H n=laa@adsl-69-235-243-55.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (Shinigami) |
| 03:33.21 | spdf | #debian ludwig- H n=laa@adsl-69-235-243-55.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (Shinigami) |
| 03:33.26 | spdf | unf.. sorry.. |
| 03:33.34 | spdf | Anyone know how to get out of fullscreen putty? lol |
| 03:33.45 | *** part/#debian eggy (n=eggy@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/yorkcc.eggy) |
| 03:33.51 | amphi | spdf: ctrl-d ? ;) |
| 03:33.53 | douglas- | Makedev reports that /proc/devices doesn't exist |
| 03:33.55 | douglas- | grr |
| 03:34.15 | spdf | Good lord.. I'll never get any work done now! :) |
| 03:34.38 | surfdue | i love god |
| 03:34.52 | surfdue | can i help you spdf? |
| 03:34.56 | spdf | He loves you too. Jesus though... not so much. |
| 03:35.03 | surfdue | what? |
| 03:35.07 | surfdue | jesus loves me |
| 03:35.09 | surfdue | :) |
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| 03:35.57 | phobos | anybody here with snd_hda_intel alsa experiences? |
| 03:36.18 | phobos | my mic jack is wrong routed to headphones |
| 03:36.23 | spdf | #debian ludwig- H n=laa@adsl-69-235-243-55.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (Shinigami) |
| 03:36.23 | TwistedEmotions | After editing modules.conf what command do you run for it to load/unload appropriate modules? |
| 03:36.41 | spdf | Ahhhh.. Victory is mine! |
| 03:36.44 | amphi | phobos: ISTR something about swapping channels in the alsa docs |
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| 03:37.19 | hytt | update-modules |
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| 03:37.43 | TwistedEmotions | hytt: thanks |
| 03:37.58 | grendal_prime | hey i got a machien here with an nvidia card in it...is this really as hard as it looks? |
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| 03:38.18 | grendal_prime | getting the acceleration working on it is what im refering to |
| 03:38.24 | spdf | grendal_prime, not really.. |
| 03:38.40 | cheal | grendal_prime: it's not easy and shouldn't be hard |
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| 03:39.25 | fbi | use the nvidia one-liner. |
| 03:39.26 | surfdue | anyone good with debian pacakges |
| 03:39.30 | surfdue | i need some developer help |
| 03:39.34 | spdf | !tell grendal_prime about nvidia one liner |
| 03:39.39 | cheal | use Andrew Schulman's Debian-nVidia HOWTO |
| 03:40.10 | gravity | surfdue: If it's really fast I can help... |
| 03:40.17 | gravity | surfdue: But I'm gone in a minute so... |
| 03:40.29 | surfdue | ok |
| 03:40.37 | surfdue | well i really needed someone to look at the deb |
| 03:40.43 | gravity | Sorry, I don't have time for that |
| 03:40.44 | surfdue | basically i just installed it on my system |
| 03:40.49 | surfdue | it messed up badly |
| 03:40.53 | surfdue | took 2 hour to fix |
| 03:40.53 | gravity | You should write debian-mentors |
| 03:40.57 | phobos | amphi, what doc do you mean? i tried to find something in the source tarball and on the alsa website without success so far |
| 03:41.00 | TwistedEmotions | How do I figure out my hostname? |
| 03:41.01 | surfdue | ok they arnt responding |
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| 03:41.29 | gravity | Sorry. Anyway, later. |
| 03:41.40 | phobos | amphi, and i grepped my /usr/share/doc dir for "hda" and found nothing helpful |
| 03:42.15 | spdf | TwistedEmotions, the hostname command will do the trick.. |
| 03:42.21 | hytt | TwistedEmotions> figure out? what do you mean? sry my poor english :p |
| 03:42.46 | TwistedEmotions | oh.. forget it... dumb question. |
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| 03:43.16 | amphi | phobos: that's that then ;( |
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| 03:43.25 | surfdue | hey if anyone is good with debian package development please tell me |
| 03:43.31 | surfdue | i would like some help & suggestions |
| 03:44.02 | spdf | surfdue, What was the package you installed? |
| 03:44.03 | hytt | TwistedEmotions> if you need to configure it definively, edit /etc/hostname |
| 03:44.09 | surfdue | im making the pacakge |
| 03:44.13 | fbi | surfdue: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html |
| 03:44.14 | surfdue | im a noob at deb pacakges |
| 03:44.17 | surfdue | just started |
| 03:44.51 | Warp4 | ok folks, installed debian on this aptiva e26. all is working great, i just need to figure out how to set the gui to use something other that 640x480 |
| 03:44.53 | spdf | surfdue, Ahh, so your own package threw a wrench into your computer.. |
| 03:45.04 | Gnea | surfdue: http://www.debian.org/devel/ have a nut |
| 03:45.15 | Gnea | surfdue: read. |
| 03:45.22 | surfdue | heh |
| 03:45.23 | surfdue | nah |
| 03:45.25 | amphi | Warp4: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:45.27 | Gnea | then stfu |
| 03:45.28 | Gnea | :) |
| 03:45.30 | surfdue | i have a guide im perfectly fine with. |
| 03:45.32 | surfdue | ? |
| 03:45.32 | smacnay | Is there an issue with ogle, nvidia geforce cards, and Debian? I get a blue screen and audio in Debian "testing", nvidia GeForce 4000MX card with the version 7174 driver, and ogle 0.9.2 |
| 03:45.47 | surfdue | id just like someone to take a look at my work |
| 03:45.47 | spdf | Warp4, ATI "Vga Wonder" Mach64 right? |
| 03:45.52 | surfdue | maybe see any odd things? |
| 03:45.54 | fbi | ehm. if you had the right guide, you wouldn't be in here asking questions. |
| 03:45.55 | Warp4 | spdf, correct |
| 03:45.59 | fbi | you haven't read shit. |
| 03:46.17 | Warp4 | spdf, howd you guess? :) |
| 03:46.22 | Gnea | surfdue: if you can't/aren't willing to read, then you have no business developing. |
| 03:46.27 | fbi | read that new maintainers guide, it will answer every one of your questions. |
| 03:46.28 | spdf | Warp4, Used to have one.. way back in the day :) |
| 03:46.39 | Warp4 | spdf, yeah picked mine up for $30.00 :) |
| 03:46.53 | spdf | Warp4, Nice little beater, especially for $30 |
| 03:47.00 | surfdue | i am willing to read |
| 03:47.07 | surfdue | somethings may come to confusing to me at first. |
| 03:47.11 | surfdue | its better to start earlier |
| 03:47.14 | surfdue | easier |
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| 03:47.19 | Gnea | yeah yeah |
| 03:47.21 | surfdue | then get more chalenging |
| 03:47.25 | fbi | whatever that meant. |
| 03:47.25 | Gnea | just go read the site |
| 03:47.26 | AqXP | hey, I'm having a samba problem |
| 03:47.29 | fbi | anyway |
| 03:47.33 | Gnea | and quit flooding here |
| 03:47.34 | surfdue | dang |
| 03:47.34 | Warp4 | amphi, dpkg-reconfigure comes up with a command not found |
| 03:47.36 | surfdue | be nice gnea |
| 03:47.42 | Gnea | oh i am being nice. |
| 03:47.43 | Gnea | :) |
| 03:47.45 | Gnea | trust me |
| 03:47.47 | surfdue | .. |
| 03:47.49 | surfdue | rude |
| 03:47.58 | spdf | Warp4, as root? |
| 03:47.58 | Gnea | calling me names now? |
| 03:47.58 | surfdue | if you dont have something nice to say, dont say somthing at all. |
| 03:48.02 | amphi | Warp4: as root? |
| 03:48.09 | Gnea | !troll surfdue |
| 03:48.19 | AqXP | my windows systems can't login or view shares on my debian system |
| 03:48.19 | Warp4 | amphi, GAH! that might help! :) |
| 03:48.25 | AqXP | they could 2 days ago |
| 03:48.29 | surfdue | im a person trying to do the community something, im trying to learn myself, and i am developing packages for an open source software i use |
| 03:48.35 | surfdue | im the only member who knows about debian |
| 03:48.43 | surfdue | it be nice if you have any respect for others gnea |
| 03:48.54 | AqXP | can someone help me? |
| 03:48.55 | brosioz | anyone could see cctv5 on linux with vlc ? or any video stream like pplive ? |
| 03:48.56 | amphi | surfdue: ? |
| 03:49.32 | surfdue | yes amphi? |
| 03:49.46 | AqXP | hello? |
| 03:49.48 | amphi | surfdue: "im the only member who knows about debian" ? |
| 03:49.55 | surfdue | in the open source project? |
| 03:49.57 | surfdue | that im with? |
| 03:50.01 | amphi | surfdue: ah |
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| 03:50.16 | surfdue | it was a continuation of the first sentence just x-chat cut it off |
| 03:50.17 | surfdue | :P |
| 03:50.21 | Gnea | surfdue: and when someone tries to help you out, you should respect that and go ahead and take the advice from someone who KNOWS. instead of getting all pissy like a 5 year old and not getting anything accomplished. instead, you sit there right now moaning like a little bitch and not taking the suggestions that YOU ASKED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE because you think you're somehow better than the rest of us. |
| 03:50.33 | bucky | the borneo linux users group? |
| 03:50.35 | AqXP | ffs |
| 03:50.41 | surfdue | what? |
| 03:50.45 | AqXP | can SOMEONE please help me? |
| 03:51.03 | surfdue | gnea first please dont swear, there is no reason to. |
| 03:51.08 | spdf | AqXP, Has anything change in the past 2 days? |
| 03:51.09 | surfdue | What is your problem AqXP? |
| 03:51.09 | Gnea | AqXP: what's the problem? |
| 03:51.10 | amphi | AqXP: the 'using samba' book is at openbooks.oreilly.com |
| 03:51.31 | Gnea | surfdue: no. |
| 03:51.39 | surfdue | AqXP, a common issue is a firewall, or port blocking |
| 03:51.40 | Gnea | surfdue: get over it. |
| 03:51.53 | AqXP | I've gone through a pile of things I found on google to try to fix it with no luck |
| 03:51.54 | surfdue | gnea its part of the rules for #debian. |
| 03:52.05 | AqXP | I'm not sure, I've been setting a lot of things up, nothing major though |
| 03:52.05 | surfdue | AqXP, do you have a router? |
| 03:52.06 | Gnea | surfdue: it is? |
| 03:52.14 | AqXP | yes I do...keep in mind this did work recently |
| 03:52.19 | Gnea | surfdue: show me. now. |
| 03:52.24 | ke6isf | !rules |
| 03:52.24 | dpkg | i guess rules is 1) Don't ask to ask. Just state your problem, 2) Don't repeat until 15 mins after, 3) Read and re-read the docs first, then admit it if you REALLY don't understand. You're wasting your time and ours if you haven't at least tried. 4) If your problem ain't solved, come back in 12 hrs or 24 hrs later. We're very international. 5) Be polite and patient. |
| 03:52.27 | surfdue | ok, well is ssh installed? |
| 03:52.34 | AqXP | yup |
| 03:52.36 | spdf | AqXP, Which version of windows? |
| 03:52.39 | AqXP | xp pro |
| 03:52.42 | ke6isf | Gnea: Closest I see is rule 5, but he |
| 03:52.43 | surfdue | gnea im no longer talking to you. |
| 03:52.45 | spdf | AqXP, Firewall disabled? |
| 03:52.50 | AqXP | tried it from 2k pro also |
| 03:52.51 | ke6isf | Gnea: Closest I see is rule 5, but he has failed at that. Danged enter key. |
| 03:52.52 | surfdue | AqXP, what program do you use to try to connect to ssh? |
| 03:52.56 | Gnea | surfdue: that's fine, but it doesn't say "don't swear" |
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| 03:53.00 | AqXP | putty |
| 03:53.04 | AqXP | yes the xp firewall crap is all off |
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| 03:53.08 | Gnea | ke6isf: yeah, he's going on ignore now |
| 03:53.11 | AqXP | I use sygate, I've checked it's settings also |
| 03:53.16 | surfdue | ok, well what does putty tell you, any errors? |
| 03:53.23 | AqXP | I can connect to other wndows machines |
| 03:53.28 | AqXP | sec |
| 03:53.41 | Warp4 | where is the bus identifier in the lspci output? |
| 03:53.45 | ke6isf | Hmm, should check the laundry |
| 03:53.52 | spdf | Warp4, Its the first set of numbers and colons.. |
| 03:53.56 | Gnea | oh wait, he probably thinks the word 'bitch' is a swear word |
| 03:54.05 | AqXP | host name doesn't work.. |
| 03:54.11 | surfdue | Gnea, "like a little bitch" |
| 03:54.14 | AqXP | oh, I can't ping by hostnames, I'm not sure how to fix that |
| 03:54.22 | AqXP | form debian I mean |
| 03:54.25 | AqXP | from* |
| 03:54.31 | spdf | AqXP, Are the hostnames defined in /etc/hosts? |
| 03:54.33 | surfdue | try this please, ping google.com |
| 03:54.43 | amphi | surfdue: FFS, that's not swearing |
| 03:55.00 | Gnea | oh is he still going off about it? |
| 03:55.01 | AqXP | google ping works |
| 03:55.03 | spdf | AqXP, Any hostname, or just the other boxes..? |
| 03:55.05 | Gnea | totally off-topic |
| 03:55.20 | surfdue | AqXP, not exactly sure then, maybe spdf can help you |
| 03:55.22 | amphi | Gnea: /ignore -replies ;) |
| 03:55.29 | AqXP | in my /etc/hosts I do have a loopback line |
| 03:55.35 | Gnea | amphi: oh i just ignored the whole thing :) |
| 03:55.45 | AqXP | 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost aqserver aqdebserver |
| 03:55.48 | Warp4 | amphi, like 0000:00:04.0? |
| 03:56.09 | AqXP | the rest are IPv6 |
| 03:56.23 | amphi | Warp4: huh? |
| 03:56.24 | hytt | AqXP> you must add all the name of your network inside lol |
| 03:56.41 | Gnea | AqXP: oooh, did you assign a private ip to an internal interface? |
| 03:56.43 | AqXP | why though? it was working without it before |
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| 03:56.53 | Warp4 | spdf, like 0000:00:04.0? |
| 03:56.57 | AqXP | Gnea: what do you mean? |
| 03:56.59 | Warp4 | amphi, sorry, wrong person :) |
| 03:57.04 | hytt | AqXP> or install a dns server |
| 03:57.12 | AqXP | when I try to ping a computer on my network I'm getting unknown host |
| 03:57.19 | spdf | AqXP, Ping by ip? |
| 03:57.25 | AqXP | ping by ip works |
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| 03:57.33 | hytt | cuz theim host is not specify into your /etc/hosts |
| 03:57.38 | AqXP | wait..or not |
| 03:57.42 | Gnea | AqXP: well you've got aqserver and aqdebserver pointed at localhost, which resides on lo - is there an internal interface such as eth1 or eth0 with something like 192.168.1.1 assigned? |
| 03:57.59 | ordinary | Hi all. I have a new Ipod. It seems like to be "ejected" before I disconnect it from my Debian system. The root is able to do this using the "eject" command, but other users cant. How can I let them in on this capability? |
| 03:58.06 | AqXP | eth1: 192.168.1.119 |
| 03:58.09 | Gnea | ok |
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| 03:58.37 | AqXP | ping by ip is not working for lan |
| 03:58.39 | phobos | amphi, they fixed it in the recent development release of the alsa drivers. it works now |
| 03:58.39 | Gnea | then edit your /etc/hosts file and add the following line: 192.168.1.119 aqserver aqdebserver |
| 03:58.40 | AqXP | thats odd |
| 03:58.45 | amphi | phobos: cool |
| 03:58.47 | AqXP | k |
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| 03:58.56 | Gnea | AqXP: and make sure you take `aqserver aqdebserver` out of the first line |
| 03:59.05 | shiky | i need help adding repositories |
| 03:59.11 | AqXP | was about to ask lol |
| 03:59.13 | amphi | ordinary: add yourself to the group that owns whatever device file it uses? (guess) |
| 03:59.14 | Gnea | :) |
| 03:59.14 | AqXP | done |
| 03:59.20 | Gnea | how does that ping now? |
| 03:59.30 | amphi | ordinary: or does it use libusb ? |
| 03:59.37 | AqXP | debian can't p[ing local machines |
| 03:59.39 | Gnea | !tell shiky about respository |
| 03:59.39 | shiky | i want to have all unstable packages for i386 |
| 04:00.00 | Gnea | shiky: what are you using now? |
| 04:00.05 | shiky | kanotix |
| 04:00.07 | AqXP | windows can't ping the hostname, but can ping the IP |
| 04:00.11 | fbi | jesus. |
| 04:00.16 | AqXP | yes? |
| 04:00.16 | Gnea | shiky: then it already is. |
| 04:00.20 | hytt | AqXP> add name and IP from other machines inside your /etc/hosts |
| 04:00.30 | shiky | it doesn't have any packages |
| 04:00.30 | ordinary | I should mention that the user has access to the device file and can mount/unmount it fine. "eject" seems to do something extra. |
| 04:00.36 | Gnea | jesus died over 2000 years ago. |
| 04:00.40 | AqXP | hytt: the other IPs are dynamic, I don't want to make debian think they are static |
| 04:00.40 | shiky | i can't find anything |
| 04:00.44 | hytt | AqXP> the same for windows, you need to create link with name and IP inside host file |
| 04:00.55 | shiky | Gnea mplayer kopete nothing is there |
| 04:00.57 | fbi | shiky: #kanotix |
| 04:01.01 | AqXP | hytt: thats too static |
| 04:01.06 | shiky | fine |
| 04:01.13 | Gnea | shiky: oh, mplayer has its own thing - but yeah, #kanotix can help you better |
| 04:01.37 | hytt | AqXP> install a server dns tho |
| 04:01.58 | AqXP | k..which? |
| 04:02.07 | AqXP | and this worked fine a few days ago, so what could have happened? |
| 04:03.40 | AqXP | is there a way to re-configure my network interfaces? |
| 04:03.51 | Gnea | !tell AqXP about interfaces |
| 04:04.06 | hytt | ifconfig |
| 04:04.15 | Gnea | !tell hytt about interfaces |
| 04:04.34 | hytt | or, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:04.45 | TwistedEmotions | I'm trying to limit speed to a eth card but then I dont seem to be able to get it working right... the last command I need is 'route add -net some.network netmask 255.255.255.0 dev shaper0' |
| 04:04.49 | phobos | is anybody using the hotkeys package here? |
| 04:05.08 | TwistedEmotions | anyone know how I can figure out what to put as some.network...? |
| 04:05.20 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: i never got shaper to work, but i did get HTB to work kinda... |
| 04:05.35 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: HTB does the same thing? |
| 04:05.49 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: the idea is the same - completely different implementation |
| 04:05.52 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: using tc |
| 04:06.13 | hytt | QoS is more hard to deployed |
| 04:06.14 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: tc? |
| 04:06.29 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: part of iproute |
| 04:06.32 | Gnea | tc |
| 04:06.33 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: apt-cache search tc? |
| 04:06.37 | Gnea | erp |
| 04:06.40 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: Err.. |
| 04:06.41 | Gnea | iproute |
| 04:06.49 | AqXP | still can't ping internal systems |
| 04:07.01 | AqXP | by hostname anyways |
| 04:07.05 | Gnea | AqXP: what's netmask? 255.255.255.0? |
| 04:07.10 | AqXP | yup |
| 04:07.15 | surfdue | were are virtual host stored |
| 04:07.23 | surfdue | like for apache etc |
| 04:07.24 | Gnea | ping -b 192.168.1.0 <-- should get a bunch at the same time |
| 04:07.33 | TwistedEmotions | So how would I go about limiting the card speed Gnea? Can I look at/steal your config for iproute? |
| 04:07.36 | AqXP | in /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 04:07.47 | spdf | surfdue, in apache's conf file.. |
| 04:07.51 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: actually, you can... one sec |
| 04:07.52 | surfdue | k |
| 04:07.57 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: ;) thanks |
| 04:08.00 | AqXP | only receiving responses from itself |
| 04:08.03 | AqXP | 192.168.1.119 |
| 04:08.24 | bucky | surfdue, if it's apache2 you make a link in sites-enabled |
| 04:08.34 | bucky | /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 04:08.48 | Gnea | AqXP: then nothing's hooked up to it |
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| 04:09.05 | AqXP | lol theree must be, I can ping google or yahoo or anything else just fine |
| 04:09.19 | hytt | its not the same |
| 04:09.23 | AqXP | I can ping LAN computers by IP no problem too |
| 04:09.33 | hytt | google , yahoo use your dns ISP |
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| 04:09.37 | Gnea | are you pinging as root or user? |
| 04:09.42 | AqXP | I set dns server to the router |
| 04:09.45 | AqXP | root |
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| 04:10.13 | hytt | but for a LAN, DNS fro your ISP dont work, need to create one local |
| 04:10.18 | hytt | from* |
| 04:10.24 | AqXP | k so how do I fix that |
| 04:10.34 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: is iproute same thing as iptables? |
| 04:10.37 | AqXP | and the dns serve ris set for the router right now |
| 04:10.45 | Gnea | oh man... |
| 04:10.46 | AqXP | which works fine for every other static machine |
| 04:11.23 | TwistedEmotions | ;( Im fuckered. |
| 04:11.27 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: i just remembered - i lost my /home partition not too long ago, and i lost a bunch of things... but i think i have a backup |
| 04:11.35 | xsdcdrf | do you know how to share files between win and linux? ftp, stfp, smb, ... anything else? |
| 04:11.36 | Gnea | at least of the script |
| 04:11.57 | surfdue | were do i set servers qualified domain name at? |
| 04:11.58 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: no, iproute is like ifconfig/route but much, much more advanced and useful |
| 04:12.06 | surfdue | it chooses 127.0.0.1 becuase it cant find it |
| 04:12.11 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: oh.. well if you can find it would be great.. if not then ;) I still lub you |
| 04:12.15 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: ahhh |
| 04:12.20 | winicius | My left double click has no effect; I don't remember what i have to type in /boot/grub/menu.list , can someone help me out? |
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| 04:12.35 | winicius | Sorry about being so vague. = / |
| 04:12.51 | spdf | left double click? grub? huh? |
| 04:13.01 | surfdue | were do i set servers qualified domain name at? |
| 04:13.03 | winicius | it has to do with acpi / apic |
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| 04:13.11 | AqXP | so..any ideas guys? |
| 04:13.23 | spdf | surfdue, keep repeating.. seriously.. |
| 04:13.55 | spdf | surfdue, There are plenty of faq/howto guides for Apache on google.. |
| 04:14.05 | surfdue | i repeated? |
| 04:14.07 | surfdue | sorry |
| 04:14.09 | surfdue | didnt mean to |
| 04:14.09 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: http://gnea.net/tc.htb.gnea.sh |
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| 04:15.06 | bucky | apt-get insatll apache2-doc |
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| 04:15.19 | pi-meson | under debian is there a canonical way to let non-root users restart services? |
| 04:15.37 | ke6isf | pi-meson: sudo comes to mind, but why? |
| 04:15.40 | pi-meson | I want to let a few of my coworkers restart the dhcpd server |
| 04:15.57 | AqXP | hey, theres an idea..retsarting router |
| 04:16.06 | ke6isf | pi-meson: Add them to the sudoers file. Hope you trust them. |
| 04:16.47 | pi-meson | all i really want them to be able to do is send a sighup to the running daemon |
| 04:16.58 | pi-meson | I trust their intentions, but not their competence :) |
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| 04:17.41 | pi-meson | one thought was make them members of a group which had +x on some suid-set script |
| 04:17.46 | AqXP | unknown host aqxp |
| 04:17.51 | AqXP | god dammit |
| 04:17.53 | ke6isf | pi-meson: What's the application? |
| 04:18.20 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: sorry I froze there for a minute... ty |
| 04:18.26 | TwistedEmotions | I am looking at it now ;) |
| 04:18.27 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: np :) |
| 04:18.41 | AqXP | anyone have any ideas? |
| 04:18.50 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: it's probably gonna need some tweaking - it's been months since i touched it |
| 04:19.01 | pi-meson | I want them to be able to edit the list of IPs/hosts, and then push a button and have it pushed to the server and have the dhcp and bind daemons reread the new config files |
| 04:19.21 | Gnea | AqXP: try power-cycling the hub |
| 04:19.26 | AqXP | just did |
| 04:19.29 | Gnea | hrm |
| 04:19.43 | Gnea | well i don't know your layout, so difficult to pinpoint |
| 04:19.55 | AqXP | I remember after freshly installing debian I was getting a message when GNOME was loading up |
| 04:19.56 | ke6isf | pi-meson: What about a cron job that just reengages it every few minutes? |
| 04:20.10 | Gnea | gnome has nothing to do with networking |
| 04:20.13 | AqXP | about the system not being able to identify itself or something like that |
| 04:20.21 | AqXP | it gave a networking error |
| 04:20.26 | AqXP | no idea how I fixed it |
| 04:20.36 | Gnea | maybe the hostname was changed in one place but not updated |
| 04:20.53 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: for TC='which tc'... err... what is that? Also for CEIL=30 is okay if I want to limit the eth0 card to 30k/sec upload/download? also for WAN=eth0? |
| 04:20.57 | Gnea | AqXP: ok, how many network interfaces do you have? |
| 04:21.11 | AqXP | lo and eth1 |
| 04:21.19 | pi-meson | a cron job is a pretty good idea, I guess |
| 04:21.19 | hytt | pi-meson> other people are on the same machine or in Lan? |
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| 04:21.25 | AqXP | there is a second one installed in the machine buyt I haven't put drivers in for it or anything |
| 04:21.31 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: type "which tc" on the commandline (without quotes) and see |
| 04:21.45 | pi-meson | hytt: they're on the lan, but no, no one else is logged into the machine |
| 04:21.55 | Gnea | AqXP: so you actually have 3 then: lo eth0 and eth1 |
| 04:21.58 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: it doesnt say anything.. ;( ? |
| 04:22.04 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: as root or user? |
| 04:22.15 | AqXP | well, I guess, it's not using eth0 in any way shape or form |
| 04:22.16 | TwistedEmotions | /sbin/tc |
| 04:22.18 | TwistedEmotions | Ahhh |
| 04:22.19 | TwistedEmotions | ty |
| 04:22.19 | Gnea | the script will only run as root anyway ;) |
| 04:22.23 | hytt | pi-meson> cuz existe webmin, you can create account with some privilige on services to config/restart |
| 04:22.36 | starscalling | brb |
| 04:22.38 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: read the comment next to CEIL |
| 04:22.59 | hytt | all in a web interface from browser on the lan |
| 04:23.35 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: Ahhh... I get it now... |
| 04:23.53 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: which iptables = my iptables firewall file? |
| 04:24.19 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: no, it's the path to the actual command |
| 04:24.29 | Gnea | like, if you: which ls |
| 04:24.33 | Gnea | or: which df |
| 04:24.39 | Gnea | which irc |
| 04:24.40 | Gnea | :) |
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| 04:24.56 | Gnea | NAME |
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| 04:26.12 | Mech422 | hi all - I have a new celeron box with the EMT64 extensions - Does this mean I _have_ to use the ia64 version of debian ? Or can I use the i386 version (with reduced speed). I ask, as it seems the ia64 stuff is not as solid as the i386 stuff ?? |
| 04:26.40 | StanTheMan | can wget pull down a binary file without any switches added to the command line? |
| 04:26.48 | fbi | uh. you do *not* have an ia64. |
| 04:27.04 | Mech422 | fbi: oh - sorry - I thought thats what the emt64 stuff was ?? |
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| 04:27.15 | StanTheMan | celeron doesn't have emt64 |
| 04:27.23 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: Hahaha... Errr... kk last question... if it works anyways.. so... to run it? |
| 04:27.29 | fbi | Mech422: if you had an ia64, you'd know it. they are arther large, and loud. |
| 04:27.37 | fbi | s/arther/rather/ |
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| 04:27.52 | StanTheMan | Mech422: IA64 != EMT64 |
| 04:28.16 | Mech422 | I have the box right here - "intel Celeron D " "Intel EM64T supports 64-bit computing" ?? |
| 04:28.19 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: well what's your upload bandwidth? |
| 04:28.26 | StanTheMan | hmmm |
| 04:28.30 | Mech422 | stantheman: Its not ?? |
| 04:28.35 | spdf | The Celeron D's are "EMT64 enabled" |
| 04:28.40 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: like 180kbps |
| 04:28.50 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: that's it?! |
| 04:29.01 | cheal | !em64t |
| 04:29.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, em64t is Intel's clone of AMD Athlon64/Opteron architecture - provides 64-bit extensions to i386 architecture. Use AMD64 Debian (/msg dpkg amd64), or Sarge with a -em64t-p4 kernel. Found only on Nocona and Irwindale Xeons, or the latest Extreme Edition Pentiums |
| 04:29.06 | StanTheMan | regardless, I think he'd be better of with the standard 32bit kernel and libs |
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| 04:29.20 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: I was trying to limit download not upload.. ;) but upload is good too... |
| 04:29.27 | cheal | dpkg: no, emt64 is <reply> see em64t |
| 04:29.27 | dpkg | cheal: okay |
| 04:29.46 | Mech422 | so using the i386 build won't hurt nothing ? |
| 04:29.53 | StanTheMan | no it will work fine |
| 04:29.53 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: oooh |
| 04:29.58 | Mech422 | cool - thanks |
| 04:30.07 | AqXP | SO, how can I get my debian system to be able to ping internal hostnames? |
| 04:30.16 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: My roommate and I are sharing net connection... he's connected through my eth0 card... trying to limit his download speeds cause he's a limewire and download feind.. |
| 04:30.18 | StanTheMan | afaik, there could be issues using the 64bit EM64T distro |
| 04:30.32 | spdf | AqXP, You add the ip and hostname to /etc/hosts |
| 04:30.35 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: you know i just realized something else |
| 04:30.36 | Mech422 | oh - one last thing - its a supermicro box - and its having a real problem with the on-board LSI SATA raid |
| 04:30.54 | StanTheMan | server or workstation chassis? |
| 04:30.59 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: i didn't add the iptables portion in there cuz it's already built-in to my own firewall :/ |
| 04:31.02 | Mech422 | the atalib pages say it should be supported - but I haven't gotten a netinst image that works with it yet.. |
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| 04:31.12 | Mech422 | StanTheMan - 1U 4bay server chassis |
| 04:31.14 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: basically you'll need to set some mangle table options in order for it to stick right |
| 04:31.18 | StanTheMan | k |
| 04:31.22 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: gimme a sec and I can get the part number |
| 04:31.25 | AqXP | spdf: and what if they change? |
| 04:31.25 | sander | hi.. I get Input/output error when i'm trying to access a few large files on my disc.. and this disc got 68.5% non-contiguous when I run fsck on the disc.. |
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| 04:31.36 | sander | whats the best way of correcting this error? |
| 04:31.39 | StanTheMan | Mech422: that's not necessary--the part number isn't |
| 04:31.54 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: aaaah ok - then you need to figure out what ports he's using and limit off of those in the forward group |
| 04:32.02 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: netstat-nap can show those |
| 04:32.05 | FlimFlamMan | hi. where is the smbpasswd file kept on a debian-sarge system (or does it use something else to keep account data, by default)? |
| 04:32.17 | StanTheMan | dpkg LSI SATA RAID |
| 04:32.18 | Mech422 | "SuperMicro superserver 5014C-MT" |
| 04:32.26 | sander | I know about 1-2 files which gives this error.. but it might be other files which also aint working.. |
| 04:32.29 | StanTheMan | dpkg SATA RAID |
| 04:32.36 | StanTheMan | dpkg RAID |
| 04:32.36 | dpkg | somebody said raid was Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks, the opposite of SLED, or what master.debian.org doesn't have See also: raid {0-5}, or http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/, or see http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/markeditorial.html?prodkey=quick_explanation_of_raid, or see <software raid> |
| 04:32.49 | StanTheMan | dpkg SATA |
| 04:32.49 | dpkg | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or use a 2.6 kernel for less pain, or you must enable CONFIG_SATA and your SATA driver for this to work |
| 04:32.57 | hytt | sander> wow, wich FS are yours files ? |
| 04:33.02 | sander | ext3 |
| 04:33.07 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: Is there an installer disk likely to work with this ? or should I throw a PATA drive on there to install to ? |
| 04:33.15 | hytt | 68% its very big |
| 04:33.17 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: once you've figured out what ports, mark them like this: iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --sport 22 -j MARK --set-mark 0x1 && iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --sport 22 -j RETURN |
| 04:33.20 | StanTheMan | Mech422: |
| 04:33.30 | StanTheMan | Mech422: i really don't konw at this point |
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| 04:33.48 | StanTheMan | Mech422: get me the part# of the LSI chip |
| 04:33.56 | TwistedEmotions | Gnea: Ahhh... kk thanks |
| 04:33.57 | StanTheMan | Mech422: hang on |
| 04:34.01 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: ok - guess I'll just keep messing with it... Umm - lemme look |
| 04:34.02 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: for each 'mark', make sure it coresponds to the marks set in the tc script - so if you want ssh to use 30k/s of traffic, put it in like group 0x1.. you can tweak the settings however you want |
| 04:34.03 | sander | hytt, yeah.. maybe because i've deleted some few gb at a time.. and added some more.. alot of times |
| 04:34.11 | StanTheMan | Mech422: gimme 5 minutes to research it plz |
| 04:34.17 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: and check the url in the script too :) |
| 04:34.24 | TwistedEmotions | Will do.. ;) |
| 04:34.25 | sander | hytt, I need to correct this.. |
| 04:34.26 | TwistedEmotions | ty Gnea |
| 04:34.29 | Gnea | TwistedEmotions: that's where i got most of it from ;) |
| 04:34.30 | Gnea | np |
| 04:34.39 | StanTheMan | Mech422: oh, btw, have you setup your RAID packs yet? |
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| 04:35.23 | sander | hytt: do you think I can use "6.14 Ext2fs defrag" located here: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO-6.html |
| 04:35.27 | FlimFlamMan | does anyone know?? -> where is the smbpasswd file kept on a debian-sarge system (or does it use something else to keep account data, by default)? |
| 04:35.29 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: yes and know - build a 'hardware raid' with it a few times - but then gave up and tried to do an MD install |
| 04:35.43 | hytt | you can try |
| 04:35.44 | Mech422 | err...yes and no |
| 04:35.57 | StanTheMan | Mech422: how many drives, what size each? |
| 04:35.59 | hytt | ext3 = ext2 + journalize file |
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| 04:36.17 | hytt | if your take j file, your fs works like a ext2 |
| 04:36.19 | cheal | FlimFlamMan: /usr/bin/smbpasswd |
| 04:36.27 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: 4x160G WD 'Raid Edition SATA drives' - hot swap capable chassis |
| 04:36.42 | StanTheMan | wtf "raid edition" |
| 04:36.58 | StanTheMan | is that the crap they call "RAID on a single disk"? |
| 04:37.06 | sander | hytt: I dont want to try defrag'ing the filesystem.. if the disc is the problem. |
| 04:37.10 | StanTheMan | never mind |
| 04:37.17 | StanTheMan | Mech422: gimme a min |
| 04:37.22 | hytt | i see |
| 04:37.23 | sander | hytt: I need to check my disc for bad blocks.. or something.. |
| 04:37.38 | FlimFlamMan | cheal, i mean the password database file (where it stores accounts and passwords) |
| 04:37.41 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: here's the url if it helps : http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5014/SYS-5014C-MT.cfm |
| 04:38.05 | sander | I can use badblocks... but I think there is some other program which marks the blocks as bad at the same time.. remember which one? |
| 04:38.10 | hytt | sander> fsck.ext3 -c /dev/yourDEvice |
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| 04:38.43 | hytt | -c use badblocks fonctions |
| 04:39.03 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: hmm - could have sworn it was an LSI sata controller - but can't find it mentioned now... |
| 04:39.16 | sander | hytt: yeah.. thats it.. I remember i've used it before |
| 04:39.19 | StanTheMan | Mech422: umm, unless you added an LSI PCI RAID card to that system, or it ain't LSI |
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| 04:39.48 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: yeah - I'm not finding it now either - but I could have sworn I saw it listed before |
| 04:40.00 | StanTheMan | Mech422: specs on that board show it has the Intel ICR6R SATA "Fake RAID" |
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| 04:40.16 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: thing is - the intel ICH6 won't do 4 SATA drives by itself will it ? I thought it only handled 2 ?? |
| 04:40.34 | msldd | what's a nice program used in making electronic/techno music in linux? |
| 04:40.37 | StanTheMan | http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html |
| 04:40.49 | StanTheMan | Mech422: plz read that web page |
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| 04:41.48 | sander | hytt: you know about any strategy I can use.. when copying files to this disc.. in the future? |
| 04:42.02 | sander | so I dont cause that much fragmention |
| 04:42.26 | sander | ..maybe delete more from the disc.. when I first delete something |
| 04:42.37 | hytt | basicle, ext3 got btw 5 and 9% of fragmentation |
| 04:43.10 | StanTheMan | Mech422: tell me more about the system, your deployment role of the final server once setup and configured, and we'll go from there |
| 04:43.24 | sander | my problem is.. what it takes to keep a acceptable low % of fragmentation. |
| 04:43.25 | StanTheMan | Mech422: is it for business or professional use, or personal use? |
| 04:43.40 | hytt | its the system + FS who control it |
| 04:44.01 | sander | yes.. but also the way I use the filesystem.. I belive |
| 04:44.29 | hytt | depends too of your file size |
| 04:44.50 | sander | if I delete 50gb from a filesystem on 200gb.. and then copies 50gb on it again.. it wont be as much fragmented.. as if I delete 5gb and copy 5gb all the time |
| 04:45.01 | hytt | you can increase or decrease the cluser size in depends of your use |
| 04:45.07 | hytt | cluster* |
| 04:45.11 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: Hmm - on POST it shows "LSI logic embedded SATA RAID version 5" |
| 04:45.18 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: Hmm - on POST it shows "LSI logic embedded SATA RAID BIOS version 5" |
| 04:45.29 | Mech422 | with the usuall "hit foo to enter RAID setup" message |
| 04:45.46 | sander | my files is usually between 10 and 100mb |
| 04:45.52 | Mech422 | its for my biz - 1 man consulting shop - gonna replace my aging woody mail server with it |
| 04:46.02 | StanTheMan | Mech422: answer my last question plz, then we go from there |
| 04:46.10 | StanTheMan | k |
| 04:46.11 | hytt | 10 ans 100mb its not really big |
| 04:46.26 | hytt | basicly the standard size is enough |
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| 04:46.30 | hytt | :: |
| 04:46.32 | hytt | :/ |
| 04:46.39 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: final setup will be as mail server off my DSL - hopefully moving to a co-lo when I can afford it |
| 04:46.47 | Guerin | sander: what filesystem? |
| 04:46.52 | hytt | ext2 |
| 04:46.52 | sander | Guerin, ext3 |
| 04:46.55 | hytt | ext3 |
| 04:46.59 | sander | yeah. |
| 04:47.43 | sander | Guerin, if you scroll up.. you see I have 68.5% non-contiguous |
| 04:47.56 | StanTheMan | hmmmm |
| 04:47.57 | Guerin | sander: ext3 shouldn't fragment at all if there's a reasonable amount of free space on the filesystem |
| 04:48.08 | Guerin | sander: if your filesystem constantly over 90% full? |
| 04:48.09 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: the really wierd part is - I can partition the drives (either as a 'hardware raid' or as individual disks) - but it hangs when attempting to sync the md/ format the drive(s) |
| 04:48.13 | sander | the filesystem is 98% full now |
| 04:48.14 | StanTheMan | post exact post message in #flood |
| 04:48.22 | Guerin | sander: there's the problem. Delete some shit. |
| 04:48.26 | StanTheMan | regarding the RAID msg in post that is |
| 04:48.29 | Guerin | sander: it'll solve itself in time. |
| 04:48.40 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: Umm - lemme go write it down - gimme a sec.... |
| 04:48.42 | Guerin | sander: whatever you think, you don't need all that pr0n |
| 04:48.48 | hytt | lool |
| 04:48.51 | sander | hehe |
| 04:49.14 | fbi | 98% ? wtf are you on, a 10 gig hard disk ? |
| 04:49.21 | sander | a 200gb |
| 04:49.29 | hytt | haha |
| 04:49.32 | fbi | haha. you have 200 gigs of porn. |
| 04:49.38 | fbi | that's golden. |
| 04:49.54 | Guerin | i need to delete a fair whack of shit off my drives too |
| 04:49.57 | sander | if i'd had that I whould be happy the rest of my life:p |
| 04:50.22 | StanTheMan | nah, you'd spend the rest of your life indexing the ones that get you off |
| 04:50.25 | Adiy | ieh` shure.. :) i don`t thinck so` .. :D |
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| 04:50.28 | sander | so I basicly.. I need to keep it 90% free all the time...? |
| 04:51.07 | Adiy | only if you can :) |
| 04:51.26 | hytt | you need 100% free for be a good boy :D |
| 04:51.40 | Adiy | hytt nice answear :D |
| 04:51.41 | Adiy | :)) |
| 04:52.02 | Guerin | sander: i don't know what the exact number is, but ext3 continuously defragments itself. however, it needs space to do so. |
| 04:52.06 | Guerin | sander: 90% is a guess |
| 04:52.19 | Guerin | i try to keep mine all below that, and have no fragmentation problems |
| 04:52.33 | Adiy | Guerin 90% is ok .. |
| 04:53.06 | sander | yeah.. but the disc is used alot.. so if I make sure its between 90% and 98% free space on it all the time.. instead of 96-98%. or something |
| 04:53.34 | sander | ..then I guess that whould make it degfrag the disc.. when its 90%.. |
| 04:53.36 | Guerin | i guess the size of the files must have something to do with it too |
| 04:53.43 | hytt | but the cluster size is really a big factor of fragmentation, if you have big file or small file |
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| 04:53.46 | Adiy | if you can .. keep it on 90 % is bather |
| 04:53.50 | Adiy | :) |
| 04:53.51 | Guerin | it's easier to keep a lot of small files defragmmented, obviously |
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| 04:54.02 | muhoo | is it possible to build a 2.6.13 kernel using sarge? |
| 04:54.08 | Guerin | muhoo: anything's possible |
| 04:54.17 | Adiy | :) |
| 04:54.20 | muhoo | i keep trying and i keep getting Unresolved symbols |
| 04:54.26 | muhoo | it's pissing me off |
| 04:54.32 | hytt | for exemple, small files like into web server (few kbytes), reiserfs is better than ext3 |
| 04:54.34 | muhoo | this is using sarge's gcc 3.3 |
| 04:54.35 | Guerin | !unresolved symbols |
| 04:54.36 | dpkg | you're getting unresolved symbols because you didn't build the module against the correct kernel headers. |
| 04:54.50 | Guerin | muhoo: the error doesn't come from where you think it comes from |
| 04:55.08 | Guerin | muhoo: why do you need a new kernel? |
| 04:55.11 | muhoo | i'm building a kernel, not a module |
| 04:55.14 | sander | hytt, yeah.. I read somewhere reiserfs is 10-15 times more effective on very small files |
| 04:55.16 | muhoo | ACPI, i2c |
| 04:55.22 | muhoo | ACPI is a clusterfuck\ |
| 04:55.32 | muhoo | and it only works on this box using 2.6 |
| 04:55.43 | spdf | Something wrong with 2.6.12? |
| 04:55.44 | muhoo | likewise i2c for sensors |
| 04:55.51 | Guerin | muhoo: the fact is that your unresolved symbols are a result of the kernel and the modules having different symbol versions |
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| 04:56.11 | muhoo | Guerin: that's helpful. but how is it possible? i've beein make-kpkg'ing for 4 years now, never had this problem. |
| 04:56.12 | Guerin | muhoo: use sarge's 2.6.8 kernel, or etch's 2.6.12, or sid's 2.6.13 |
| 04:56.19 | Guerin | muhoo: dunno. |
| 04:56.37 | StanTheMan | Mech422: you said model 5014C-MT right? |
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| 04:57.05 | muhoo | what's different about sid's 2.6.13 from the stock 2.6.13? |
| 04:57.12 | Guerin | muhoo: read the changelog |
| 04:57.22 | muhoo | and, if make-kpkg is freaking out because the kernel headers are wrong, why would the sid package be any different? |
| 04:57.25 | Guerin | muhoo: for one thing: it's known to work and you don't have to build it |
| 04:57.40 | Guerin | muhoo: because the people who build the debian kernels know what they're doing |
| 04:57.42 | cheal | muhoo: some patches that make it free and a few other things |
| 04:57.43 | muhoo | yes i do. i need to enable shit that may not be in the stock |
| 04:58.03 | Guerin | muhoo: check whether is IS in stock |
| 04:58.07 | muhoo | stock kernel is not free! |
| 04:58.10 | muhoo | didn't knwo that |
| 04:58.15 | muhoo | know, even |
| 04:58.20 | cheal | muhoo: the vanilla kernel |
| 04:58.22 | Guerin | muhoo: binary firmware etc. |
| 04:58.24 | Mech422 | StanTheMan : yeah 5014c-MT is what the manual says - the picture looks right for that model on the website |
| 04:58.34 | sander | I whould love some kinda performance tests of ext3 filesystem.. which explains/tests with values of how many % I actually need to keep ext3 defragmentet.. but I guess thats hard to find:p |
| 04:58.42 | StanTheMan | k |
| 04:58.51 | StanTheMan | Mech422: gimme a couple mins |
| 04:58.54 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: and the post comes up with "CTRL-M to run LSI Logic EMbedded SATA RAID Setup Util" |
| 04:59.20 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: I got the POST spam if ya still want it - finds the controller at pci:00 dev no:1f |
| 04:59.53 | muhoo | Guerin: this is an athlon and i need some tweeky athlon features like cpufreq, i don't think stock binary kernel will have it |
| 04:59.57 | Mech422 | all four ports are 'responding' and show a 152627MB WD in UDMA 6 mode |
| 05:00.06 | muhoo | but i'll try apt-get source and try to build it from sid's sources |
| 05:00.46 | StanTheMan | Mech422: that BIOS message is bothering me. Intel would relable a BIOS "OEM'd" from LSI |
| 05:01.00 | spdf | muhoo, the Powernow stuff is built with the packaged kernel in 2.6.12 atleast.. I'm using it with my laptop |
| 05:01.13 | StanTheMan | Mech422: is it possible you got a PCI(-X)(Express) card preinstalled it that chassis? |
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| 05:01.27 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: I just figured it had an ICH6 _and_ an LSI chipset ?? Didn't think the ICH6 could do that many SATA ports on its own ? |
| 05:01.33 | muhoo | spdf: thanks |
| 05:01.41 | cheal | muhoo: the stock kernel has cpufreq |
| 05:01.50 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: I'll double check - but I think I would have noticed a card in it... |
| 05:01.55 | StanTheMan | Mech422: that's what I'm getting at. I think you have an add in LSI card in there |
| 05:02.00 | StanTheMan | k |
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| 05:02.11 | muhoo | ok ok you convinced me. save me the time and hassle of building a kernel and you've made my life much easier. |
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| 05:03.15 | Guerin | muhoo: don't think, find out. |
| 05:04.07 | Guerin | "It's ok, I don't think it's loaded." |
| 05:04.09 | Guerin | etc. |
| 05:04.20 | muhoo | spdf: linux-image-2.6.13-1-k7 ? |
| 05:04.38 | spdf | muhoo, That's what I'm using on my laptop |
| 05:04.43 | muhoo | thanks |
| 05:06.23 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: nothing that looks like a card - its got an 'L' bracket in one pci slot - so you can mount a standard pci card in a 1U case |
| 05:06.37 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: the motherboard is labeled "Super P8SCT" |
| 05:07.13 | Mech422 | no LSI chips visable - but there is 1 socketed chip with a label over it - small square one - maybe flashram/cmos ? |
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| 05:07.44 | Mech422 | there's also 1 big intel chip marked "FW82801FR L5060010 SL79N" |
| 05:07.46 | StanTheMan | Mech422: I found what I was lookn for. LSI provides the RAID BIOS for the integrated ICH6R. |
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| 05:08.04 | StanTheMan | Mech422: intel OEM's (bought) the BIOS from LSI |
| 05:08.09 | muhoo | not that this matters, but i'm curious. for years i've used make-kpkg and i *thought* it got its kernel headers from the source tree i was building in. |
| 05:08.13 | Mech422 | StanTheMan: ahh - so it IS just an ich6 |
| 05:08.15 | StanTheMan | Mech422: it's fake RAID |
| 05:08.20 | StanTheMan | yep |
| 05:08.27 | muhoo | did that change? where is it documented so i can read up on this? man page doesn't say. |
| 05:08.39 | StanTheMan | just talk....no need for stan/mech stuff |
| 05:08.46 | StanTheMan | too tired of typing lol |
| 05:08.52 | Mech422 | hehe - okay |
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| 05:09.02 | StanTheMan | so |
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| 05:09.16 | Mech422 | so what netinst image/drivers should I use ? I've tried just doing a vanilla MD install - and it still hangs |
| 05:09.36 | Mech422 | the libata pages indicated that ICH6 should work... |
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| 05:09.52 | StanTheMan | basically, fake raid is just that. it doesn't give you hot swappability afaik, it sucks CPU cycles to implement the RAID features. It has no dedicated RAID chip, etc |
| 05:10.07 | Mech422 | right |
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| 05:10.11 | StanTheMan | kill any raid packs you have setup |
| 05:10.19 | StanTheMan | make them single drives only in the bios |
| 05:10.29 | StanTheMan | use the standard ICH6R driver |
| 05:10.42 | Mech422 | yeah - I've tried doing it in 'enhanced' mode 'ahci' mode and 'raid' mode in bios - all fail to install |
| 05:10.44 | StanTheMan | see what happens |
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| 05:11.15 | StanTheMan | is there a bios option to disable the RAID BIOS? |
| 05:11.42 | StanTheMan | did you read that FAQ web page I pasted? |
| 05:11.43 | Mech422 | not exactly - setting it to anything except 'raid' mode in bios seems to turn it off (at least, the messages don't come up during post) |
| 05:12.04 | StanTheMan | k |
| 05:12.11 | StanTheMan | did you read that web page? |
| 05:12.14 | StanTheMan | do so now if you didn't |
| 05:12.59 | Mech422 | not sure what I'm looking for - I know ich6 isn't hardware raid |
| 05:13.07 | Mech422 | and I've read that it might not support hot-swap |
| 05:13.23 | StanTheMan | so again, what are you goals for the system? |
| 05:13.36 | Mech422 | at this point - to get debian installed using MD raid |
| 05:13.45 | StanTheMan | high availability? high performance? 24x7x365 operation? |
| 05:13.51 | StanTheMan | MD? |
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| 05:14.00 | Mech422 | Linux software RAID |
| 05:14.07 | StanTheMan | ahh |
| 05:14.10 | frigo | hi |
| 05:14.35 | StanTheMan | I've not used it myself. I've always had doubts about software raid of any kind |
| 05:14.41 | Mech422 | from what I've read - I _should_ be able to treat it as a set of 'normal' disks and create a linux software raid with it |
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| 05:14.47 | frigo | i dunno if im in the right place, but i need help with base-config |
| 05:15.00 | Mech422 | I've been using MD raid for a couple of years now - pretty happy with it - just wish it had hotswap :-) |
| 05:15.07 | dondelelcaro | Mech422: so boot of the installer, and set it up; if the installer doesn't ask you, you can just mdadm --create --run --level 1 yada yada yada |
| 05:15.15 | muhoo | GAH! it uses an initrd. i hate initrd's. |
| 05:15.16 | StanTheMan | if you really want raid, get a true sata raid card. With the investment you already have in that server, the cost of the raid card is minimal |
| 05:15.26 | Mech422 | dondelelcaro: It hangs when I do that - timeouts from the drives |
| 05:15.33 | muhoo | haven't had to deal with an initrd since 2000, the last time i used redhat |
| 05:15.45 | dondelelcaro | Mech422: then something is wrong with your controller or the driver for your controller. |
| 05:15.52 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: so build your own kernel. |
| 05:15.53 | StanTheMan | Mech422: do you have time to put the project on hold? |
| 05:15.57 | frigo | it says "choose software to install" but i cant select anything :( |
| 05:16.07 | StanTheMan | or does it have to be finished like "NOW" |
| 05:16.12 | Mech422 | ok - lemme re-phrase - I can't get debian installed at all - not on 'fake raid' 'md raid' or normal disks - the install hangs either when trying to format the partitions or trying to sync the md raid (if I use md raid) |
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| 05:16.21 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: Guerin just yelled at me for building my own kernel |
| 05:16.37 | Mech422 | It can wait a bit - I was just curious... |
| 05:16.47 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: *shrug* you either 1) use debian kernel with initrd or 2) use your own kernel. |
| 05:16.51 | Mech422 | I was hoping a new netinst nightly might fix the problem for me :-P |
| 05:17.03 | Guerin | muhoo: i did not yell |
| 05:17.23 | Guerin | muhoo: i just told you your problems could be solved if you actually bothered to check what the debian kernel did |
| 05:17.24 | StanTheMan | Mech422: is eliminating the onboad sata/raid chip an option for you? can spend more $$? do you want real raid protection, performance, hot swapability? |
| 05:17.34 | Mech422 | its just really wierd that partitioning works fine... but it bombs out as soon as it tries to do any 'real' work on the drives... |
| 05:17.35 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: building my own kernel using make-kpkg was giving me unresolved symbols |
| 05:17.53 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: uh... which kernel? with which compiler? |
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| 05:17.57 | muhoo | Guerin: well i'm more than happy to read docs. can you point me to which one specifically will explain to me what i'm doing wrong? |
| 05:18.03 | Mech422 | actually - I'm not too worried about it - I like MD raid well enough... |
| 05:18.06 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: 2.6.13, using gcc 3.3 in sarge |
| 05:18.19 | Mech422 | hot swap would be nice, but I can live with having to power cycle to swap drives |
| 05:18.24 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: give us the output of the make when it fails |
| 05:18.40 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: make doesn't fail. dpkg -i fails |
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| 05:19.07 | muhoo | it's a header version sync problem somewhere. but after 4 years of building kernels with make-kpkg, this is the first time i've had this problem. |
| 05:19.09 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: unlikely, that's probably just a bunch of depmod arnings. |
| 05:19.14 | Mech422 | I know supermicro had a binary only driver for suse at one point... maybe I should try that |
| 05:19.27 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: exactly. depmod is generating the errors |
| 05:19.35 | Mech422 | but I dislike the idea of using proprietary drivers |
| 05:19.42 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: those are just warnings, not really something worth worrying about. |
| 05:19.50 | dondelelcaro | (well, almost assuredly just warnings) |
| 05:20.11 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: well i'd ignore them except that dpkg -i doesn't seem to be installing the kernel because of these warnings. |
| 05:20.19 | muhoo | and then of course the modules don't load. |
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| 05:20.32 | muhoo | modprobe generates the same warnings, exept that they are fatal errors in that case. |
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| 05:20.58 | FarrisG | How do you allow regular mysql users to change their passwords in phpmyadmin? |
| 05:21.01 | muhoo | correction: dpkg is installing it. the modules however are failing to load because of the unresolved deps |
| 05:21.11 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: you've restarted, right? |
| 05:21.18 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: oh yes. |
| 05:21.23 | muhoo | many times :-) |
| 05:21.28 | dondelelcaro | muhoo: ok, and rerun depmod after restarting? |
| 05:21.50 | muhoo | that's in the boot scripts. i'll look again, but IIRC it also generated the same warnings. |
| 05:21.53 | Mech422 | stantheman: btw - I think its not just me : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24234.html someone had similiar problems with unbuntu and a supermicro |
| 05:22.15 | Mech422 | anyway, thanks for the help... |
| 05:22.23 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: can't hurt; i'll try it. |
| 05:22.31 | Mech422 | I'll just have to keep messin with it |
| 05:22.51 | StanTheMan | correct me if im wrong, but 64 bit PCI cards will work in PCI-X slots right?> |
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| 05:24.23 | StanTheMan | Mech422: I recommned this: http://www.pricescan.com/items/item160887.asp |
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| 05:24.50 | Mech422 | stantheman: thanks :-) |
| 05:24.52 | StanTheMan | you'll be much happier, get 3x to 4x the performance, plus hotswap, etc |
| 05:25.08 | Mech422 | thing is - I don't know how I'd wire that into the backplane |
| 05:25.21 | StanTheMan | for $250, you'll get so much more than trying to jury-rig ICH6R fake raid into a decent solution |
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| 05:26.00 | StanTheMan | I've used Mylex and AMI (now LSI) MegaRAID in the past, and I can't imagine anyone using anything but a real raid controller for RAID |
| 05:26.20 | StanTheMan | there are too many headaches, performance, and compaitblity issues |
| 05:26.34 | Mech422 | hehe - MD raid works really well for me here - to be honest I wasn't looking for a 'RAID' setup - I was planning on using MD raid all along... |
| 05:27.09 | StanTheMan | I have a MegaRAID 3 channel UW/SCSI in my Exchange server...awesome |
| 05:27.33 | Mech422 | I've heard good things about MegaRAID - my HP netservs use them |
| 05:27.51 | Mech422 | never had a hiccup out of them - but they buzz annoyingly when the power goes out :-P |
| 05:28.00 | StanTheMan | I've used many Mylex DAC960 series in the past and they are top notch also |
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| 05:28.46 | StanTheMan | I've never used one, but the 3ware cards have a good rep also |
| 05:28.51 | Mech422 | anyway, I should get back to work... I've got an embedded distro to finish for a customer before morning :-P |
| 05:29.06 | Mech422 | yeah - I've heard mixed stuff about 3ware... |
| 05:29.35 | Mech422 | I guess some of the early 3ware's would lock up... but I've heard really good stuff about the later models... so I'm kinda torn |
| 05:29.57 | StanTheMan | Mech422: if you stick with the in-built stuff on the Smicro, good luck with it |
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| 05:30.12 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: ok, i have CONFIG_MODULES=y but i'm getting "QM_MODULES: Function not implemented" |
| 05:30.22 | Mech422 | thanks - it'll be fine once I figure out the magic incantation for the driver... |
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| 05:30.26 | StanTheMan | Mech422: I've never used MD raid, but if you're happy with it, go for it |
| 05:30.29 | muhoo | i think maybe the sarge version of modutils doesn't support 2.6? |
| 05:30.44 | muhoo | CONFIG_KMOD=y too |
| 05:30.47 | Mech422 | thanks for your help - I appreciate it :-) |
| 05:31.13 | Mech422 | nite all |
| 05:31.17 | StanTheMan | Mech422: np... sorry for asking you to spend more. I just hate software raid hehe |
| 05:31.20 | StanTheMan | nite |
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| 05:32.15 | SimonRaven | muhoo: modutils doesn't support 2.6, period. |
| 05:32.19 | SimonRaven | !qm_modules |
| 05:32.19 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES, or if you are using woody you must upgrade to sarge to use a 2.6 kernel, ask me about woody->sarge |
| 05:32.34 | muhoo | SimonRaven: i mean lsmod, modprobe |
| 05:32.46 | SimonRaven | ^^^ |
| 05:33.05 | scruffy | should I be looking for a particular brand of usb flash drive? |
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| 05:33.17 | jm_ | scruffy: I recommend Corsair Voyager |
| 05:33.40 | muhoo | SimonRaven: thank you! this is a sarge that was u/g'd from woody, i had a feeling that was it. |
| 05:34.04 | muhoo | i rememebr going through this 3 years ago when i upgraded a machine from woody to sid. |
| 05:34.41 | scruffy | jm_: great. I want to try out pam_usb, and wanted to get something I know will work. thanks! |
| 05:34.46 | muhoo | and it was 2 years ago, not 3. damn i'm forgetful. |
| 05:38.42 | nvz | man I need to go to walmart or something where all the rediculously bored people go at 2am |
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| 05:39.41 | nvz | I've pretty much been sleeping since I got off work saturday morning and here it is monday and I still havent got shit to do |
| 05:40.30 | xixor | nvz: wow |
| 05:40.36 | xixor | nvz: my advice: taco bell |
| 05:40.39 | xixor | nvz: that shit is good |
| 05:40.43 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: that seems to do it. i'll need to go in and upgrade all my mods and deps to the new method |
| 05:41.00 | muhoo | i.e. /etc/modutils |
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| 05:41.17 | beleys_ | Yo p |
| 05:41.19 | jm_ | scruffy: pam_usb? |
| 05:41.28 | nvz | I had burritos yesturday morning. I woke up long enough to cook a few of my friends breakfast burritos |
| 05:41.29 | spdf | Is it 2am good? Best keep the pants crapping to a minimum.. |
| 05:41.48 | mtnman | spdf: tmi |
| 05:41.54 | xixor | spdf: why limit yourself |
| 05:41.57 | jm_ | ahh for extra security |
| 05:42.03 | xixor | spdf: when you can wallow in your own crapulence |
| 05:42.24 | spdf | Fair enough.. If you're going to be up for awhile, let 'er rip... |
| 05:42.30 | Coke | jm_: up early or late? |
| 05:42.56 | jm_ | Coke: the usual :) |
| 05:42.59 | muhoo | dondelelcaro: Guerin: spdf: cheal: SimonRaven: thank you all for your help. i'm back up and running and cobwebs dusted off my memory. |
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| 05:43.20 | Coke | jm_: it's early here, but I don't remember seing any action from you until around lunchtime here. |
| 05:44.00 | jm_ | Coke: naah, I always join anywhere from 7:10 till 7:35 |
| 05:44.12 | scruffy | jm_: right, I read an article about pam_usb in Linux Journal this month and thought I'd give it a go. |
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| 05:51.34 | scruffy | wow, you don't see that everyday. On a flash drive package, "Compatible with Windows, Macintosh, Linux". |
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| 05:52.12 | ke6isf | scruffy: Used to be you didn't see it at all. |
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| 05:52.43 | scruffy | ke6isf: I should have said "I've never seen that" |
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| 05:53.09 | aris | how can i do mailbox quota in postfix virtual? |
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| 05:54.46 | qian | holle.I'am from chain |
| 05:55.53 | spdf | China? |
| 05:56.31 | ke6isf | aris: I used to know that one off the top of my head. Hang on. |
| 05:56.44 | qian | sorry |
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| 06:00.58 | ke6isf | aris: mailbox_size_limit option in main.cf, argument is in bytes. |
| 06:02.17 | spdf | That'll work for mbox, but won't limit the size of a maildir setup.. |
| 06:03.08 | dpower | Hi, was wondering if there is a command line version of ethereal |
| 06:03.30 | jm_ | sure |
| 06:03.36 | spdf | dpower, tethereal |
| 06:03.48 | dpower | ty |
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| 06:04.06 | dpower | and what is the command to uninstall packs, becuase i just installed 'ethereal' |
| 06:04.27 | johnny_nubie | can someone tell me the correct package name for a stable-ish 2.6 kernel please? |
| 06:04.39 | spdf | dpower, apt-get remove <package> |
| 06:04.52 | dpower | simple enuff, thanks |
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| 06:06.12 | yumeng | hi all, im using reiserfs file system, i remove a lot of file with rm -rf, can i recover them? |
| 06:06.12 | spdf | johnny_nubie, Using sarge? |
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| 06:06.19 | johnny_nubie | spdf - yessir |
| 06:06.31 | ke6isf | yumeng: Not very easily, why? |
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| 06:06.56 | yumeng | kesisf: how can do i? |
| 06:06.57 | dpower | is there a way to view all of the packags i have installed? |
| 06:06.59 | ke6isf | johnny_nubie: What processor are you running? |
| 06:07.00 | spdf | yumeng, http://www.antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments |
| 06:07.09 | johnny_nubie | intel 86 |
| 06:07.20 | ke6isf | johnny_nubie: 386 or p2, or...? |
| 06:07.38 | kevix | dpower: dpkg --get-installed and dpkg -l |
| 06:07.57 | Sir_LeChucK | hi #debian, i have a presario r3000, when i try to boot my 2.6.13 kernel i get something like: hda: ReiserFS found....... hd: controller still busy...... hda: reset timed out any idea??? |
| 06:07.59 | yumeng | thanks, im try it! |
| 06:08.02 | ke6isf | dpower: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' prints a list of package names only. |
| 06:08.16 | dpower | wow |
| 06:08.20 | dpower | ok ill try that |
| 06:08.21 | spdf | yumeng, Good luck. Be careful next time.. |
| 06:08.32 | ke6isf | I should put that into a factoid. |
| 06:08.32 | noir | hey, well, i have a question |
| 06:08.50 | spdf | johnny_nubie, For sarge 2.6.8-2 is as high as it goes if I'm not mistaken.. |
| 06:08.53 | dpower | ke6isf: it just hangs... |
| 06:09.09 | yumeng | thanks, i know:) |
| 06:09.18 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: maybe its hd controller trouble. try booting with a livecd and chroot to check that things still work |
| 06:09.22 | noir | my system is hanging, i wont work, if i stop using it the whole system hangs in about hours |
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| 06:09.29 | ke6isf | dpower: Erm... |
| 06:09.36 | johnny_nubie | spdf - thats great, can you tell me how to get the syntax correct on the package name for an apt-get command? |
| 06:09.42 | Sir_LeChucK | kevix: im using the same pc but with kernel 2.4 and works perfect |
| 06:09.44 | spdf | noir, Is it random hanging? |
| 06:10.06 | scruffy | noir: hangs only when you stop using it for a while, or does it happen while you're using it? |
| 06:10.07 | spdf | johnny_nubie, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 06:10.14 | ke6isf | dpower: Wonder why. Is there anything else happening? Are you getting ANY response from the keyboard? Note that I use this nightly for backup purposes. |
| 06:10.35 | dpower | i entered it as a command |
| 06:10.37 | spdf | johnny_nubie, or apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 will give you the newest kernel |
| 06:10.40 | dpower | do i have to run that as a script? |
| 06:10.58 | ke6isf | dpower: Copy the exact command you did. I think you forgot a quote. |
| 06:11.01 | dpower | or perhaps i dont have awk |
| 06:11.08 | dpower | ahh |
| 06:11.13 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: are you saying you are using the pc but with 2.4 or using a similar pc that has 2.4 |
| 06:11.18 | dpower | ke6isf: brilliant |
| 06:11.34 | ke6isf | dpower: ...you forgot a quote didn't you? |
| 06:11.43 | dpower | yep, forgot the ' |
| 06:11.52 | ke6isf | dpower: Heh =^^= |
| 06:11.57 | dpower | :S |
| 06:12.08 | Sir_LeChucK | kevix: same pc, in my grub i have the 2.4 that comes with the debian installation, and the 2.6 ive compiled |
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| 06:13.13 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: ahh. have you at least tried a debian 2.6 to see if at least that works. |
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| 06:13.21 | TriKster-Abacus | debian's experimental 2.6.13 works great |
| 06:13.50 | johnny_nubie | ok, if my screen goes blank right after "Starting Gnome Display Manager", what can I do to fix that? |
| 06:13.52 | Garda | hey guys. know where i can find tools and information about the msn chat protocol |
| 06:14.12 | TriKster-Abacus | Garda, in /usr/share/doc? |
| 06:14.14 | Sir_LeChucK | kevix: u mean the 2.6 kernel with debian patches ? |
| 06:14.15 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: what was the reason for building your own (and I assume not using the debian method) |
| 06:14.24 | surfdue | error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) |
| 06:14.26 | TriKster-Abacus | not trying to be mean |
| 06:14.32 | surfdue | i need python headers |
| 06:14.40 | surfdue | does anyone know the package name for python headers? |
| 06:14.47 | TriKster-Abacus | I can look |
| 06:14.52 | Sir_LeChucK | kevix: i used the debian method... the reason is that i don't want a kernel with 232093 modules i won't use :P |
| 06:14.54 | surfdue | ty |
| 06:14.58 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: yes. |
| 06:15.19 | scruffy | surfdue: python2.3-dev probably |
| 06:15.23 | Garda | TriKster-Abacus: no, i've tried google, i mean tools for retrieving buddy lists and stuff like that. just general msn related tools. |
| 06:15.31 | surfdue | ty |
| 06:16.16 | scruffy | surfdue: or python2.4-dev, whichever works |
| 06:16.21 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: I'd at least start with a working debian .config and start removing unneeded one little by little. |
| 06:16.48 | TriKster-Abacus | Garda, oh sorry |
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| 06:17.00 | scruffy | surfdue: I take that back, I see your 2.3 in the line you pasted |
| 06:17.14 | TriKster-Abacus | surfdue, sorry, I don't see anything like a python header, python-dev but that is it |
| 06:17.31 | dli_ | I need an installation guide to install testing on a scsi-raid |
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| 06:17.36 | kevix | Garda: 'apt-cache search msn' |
| 06:17.38 | scruffy | TriKster-Abacus: that'll work |
| 06:17.47 | dli_ | I got "No drive detected" |
| 06:17.50 | Sir_LeChucK | kevix: thing is... the 2.6.8 apt-get downloaded me, couldnt compile make menuconfig.. so i downloaded the last kernel from kernel.org... ill try downloading with apt again... |
| 06:17.53 | johnny_nubie | whats the command to reconfigure xfree86? |
| 06:18.06 | dli_ | johnny_nubie: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 06:18.08 | spdf | !drxx |
| 06:18.08 | dpkg | i guess drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:18.12 | Garda | kevix: i'll try that, i'm not on my computer right now but |
| 06:18.22 | dli_ | johnny_nubie: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , if you are using xorg instead of xfree86 |
| 06:18.45 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: I think you should get 'kernel-package' |
| 06:18.47 | TriKster-Abacus | scruffy, ya, it is named straight up "python-dev" |
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| 06:19.40 | scruffy | TriKster-Abacus: it'll fetch python2.3-dev too when you install it. I think it's a virtual package. |
| 06:19.42 | noir | scruffy, is just when stop using it, the hangs apear |
| 06:19.49 | kevix | Sir_LeChucK: are you saying that it didnt compile because you may have missed a depenency for menuconfig |
| 06:19.53 | TriKster-Abacus | scruffy, ok |
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| 06:20.15 | TriKster-Abacus | libncurses or something like that |
| 06:20.39 | noir | spdf, yes the hangs is in random times, some times in hours, some times in minutes |
| 06:20.40 | scruffy | noir: I'd look into disabling power management at boot using a kernel switch.. but I forget the name of it. Doing that might fix it. |
| 06:20.44 | TriKster-Abacus | libncurses5 is what I had to install for menuconfig to work |
| 06:20.55 | kevix | scruffy: may you could use 'apt-file' it get the list of all files in all packages, you can then search for the package based on the file you need |
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| 06:21.22 | noir | scruffy, so disabling the kernel power management? |
| 06:21.37 | noir | or bios power management |
| 06:21.42 | kevix | TriKster-Abacus: I think 'kernel-package' gets that. |
| 06:21.57 | johnny_nubie | cool - how does one use xserver over ssh? |
| 06:21.59 | scruffy | kevix: that was meant for surfdue :) |
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| 06:22.18 | scruffy | noir: that's a possible solution, but it's only a guess. good place to start. |
| 06:22.18 | gudi | hi |
| 06:22.21 | surfdue | :) |
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| 06:22.27 | TriKster-Abacus | dunno kevix could be.. I just know I had to get it the other day on a fresh install |
| 06:22.31 | gudi | anyone knows a ftp client which support fxp ? |
| 06:22.32 | TriKster-Abacus | you are probably right |
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| 06:22.45 | noir | scruffy, umm good, then a recompiling or just a modconf? |
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| 06:23.20 | coywolf | !elvis |
| 06:23.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, elvis is king, or an editor, or dead, or elvis lives |
| 06:23.25 | jm_ | gudi: yes, many people know it |
| 06:23.41 | scruffy | noir: not entirely sure. there is an option to pass in your boot loader for your kernel to disable power management I believe. |
| 06:23.45 | coywolf | !vile |
| 06:23.45 | dpkg | it has been said that vile is Vi Like Emacs, a text editor. |
| 06:23.57 | gudi | jm_, i use gftp and can not find howto set an ftp connection in the local window :-( |
| 06:24.00 | scruffy | noir: so you probably won't have to do any recompiling |
| 06:24.07 | jm_ | gudi: I know lftp supports it |
| 06:24.10 | noir | oh, i see |
| 06:24.14 | ke6isf | !tell coywolf -about msg the bot |
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| 06:24.25 | noir | well, i guess is google time |
| 06:24.29 | kevix | johnny_nubie: I think you mean 'ssh -x' or 'ssh -X' |
| 06:24.41 | scruffy | noir: I'll see if I can find the option |
| 06:24.44 | coywolf | any1 uses vile or elvis? instead of vim? |
| 06:24.57 | gudi | and gtk one ? |
| 06:25.02 | dpower | !ask |
| 06:25.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 06:25.11 | johnny_nubie | kevix - do you have a good resource where I can start setting that up? |
| 06:25.17 | hytt | johnny_nubie> active option "X11Forwarding" yes, on server and "ForwardX11" on client |
| 06:25.18 | dpower | oops wrong one |
| 06:25.21 | dpower | /msg dpkg poll |
| 06:25.28 | squareff | does anybody know any application which fixes partitioning problems? |
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| 06:25.57 | ke6isf | squareff: What kind of partitioning problems? |
| 06:26.02 | kevix | johnny_nubie: what hytt said! |
| 06:26.05 | scruffy | noir: it may be apm=off |
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| 06:26.19 | johnny_nubie | hytt : hmm.... |
| 06:26.25 | scruffy | noir: maybe try both apm=off acpi=off |
| 06:26.28 | hytt | sshd config of course |
| 06:26.28 | squareff | ke6isf: like when i erase a partition and then all of them change /dev/<name> which makes my system unbootable |
| 06:26.36 | brosioz | how could i block all internet connection of a program ? |
| 06:26.41 | noir | scruffy, it's too dificult to screw a harddrive?, i mean, my HD starts to make slow noises |
| 06:26.41 | johnny_nubie | ah |
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| 06:26.49 | kevix | squareff: cfdisk, fdisk? if you mess it up, you can redo it. the data is still there. |
| 06:26.50 | jm_ | brosioz: outgoing? owner iptables module |
| 06:26.51 | coywolf | any1 uses vile or elvis? instead of vim? |
| 06:26.52 | bonz | Silly Question: How much disk space would an i386 mirror of sid & woody consume? |
| 06:27.10 | brosioz | jm_, yes |
| 06:27.21 | brosioz | i want to block all the outgoing traffic |
| 06:27.23 | ke6isf | bonz: why woody? It's particularly silly to maintain that these days, since Sarge is stable. |
| 06:27.24 | brosioz | of a program |
| 06:27.25 | bonz | Is it possible too have such a thing? |
| 06:27.26 | brosioz | is possible ? |
| 06:27.28 | squareff | kevix: (c)fdisk can't even open: they say something like invalid partitions |
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| 06:27.32 | scruffy | noir: check dmesg and see if you see any disk errors. not sure what the grinding is unless power management is spinning the drive down or something. |
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| 06:27.39 | kevix | bonz: IIRC 3-6GB |
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| 06:27.46 | bonz | or do you need too mirror for all archs? |
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| 06:27.59 | brosioz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.05 | noir | sorry but how do i check that? |
| 06:28.19 | noir | command line? log file? |
| 06:28.19 | scruffy | noir: the command `dmesg` |
| 06:28.22 | noir | ok |
| 06:28.25 | squareff | ke6isf, kevix: isn't there any way i could manually set the /dev/<name> of each partition? |
| 06:28.26 | kevix | squareff: are you shure you didnt do this on a cdrom? |
| 06:28.36 | ke6isf | brosioz: What program? |
| 06:28.50 | ke6isf | brosioz: And what do you mean by traffic? |
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| 06:29.05 | scruffy | noir: look for stuff like '{ DriveReady SeekComplete Error }' |
| 06:29.13 | brosioz | ke6isf, of a program x |
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| 06:29.29 | noir | ok, let me see |
| 06:29.33 | kevix | squareff: not that I am aware of. the partition table can be removed and remade and the data on the drive is still there. |
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| 06:30.04 | nimak | In soviet Russia, homework does you! |
| 06:30.21 | ke6isf | brosioz: That's no help. What program? What is the name of the program? Assuming I can help you, I won't be able to help you at all if you don't tell me! |
| 06:30.26 | kevix | squareff: IIRC its setup by the order you make them. |
| 06:30.29 | squareff | kevix: i am not complaining for losing data, only for losing partitions order, which makes lilo incapable to boot my box |
| 06:30.40 | noir | init IO_APIC IRQs |
| 06:30.40 | noir | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.40 | noir | ..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1 |
| 06:30.40 | noir | ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC |
| 06:30.40 | noir | ...trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... failed. |
| 06:30.40 | noir | ...trying to set up timer as Virtual Wire IRQ... failed. |
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| 06:30.41 | ke6isf | squareff: Use grub. |
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| 06:30.59 | scruffy | noir: if you've rebooted, and you haven't had any problems yet, you may not see any errors. try this: grep 'packet command error' /var/log/kern.log* |
| 06:31.14 | squareff | ke6isf: so do you mean grub doesn't mix partitions after i delete a partition (like lilo does)? |
| 06:31.17 | kevix | squareff: hold it! what does the order have to do with lilo not working? |
| 06:31.20 | MrPrimate | do you guys know how I can figure out which package a file would come in? I know the file/path that I want |
| 06:31.21 | noir | umm |
| 06:31.22 | noir | ok |
| 06:31.29 | noir | it some errors about apic |
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| 06:31.40 | ke6isf | squareff: Not so much taht, it just kind of figures it out as near as I can tell. |
| 06:31.45 | noir | i dont know if they're bad or not |
| 06:31.54 | MrPrimate | I want the package with /usr/X11R6/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o file |
| 06:31.57 | scruffy | noir: I'd try disabling apic and apm first, just to rule them out. |
| 06:31.58 | MrPrimate | anyone know where I get that ? |
| 06:32.08 | squareff | ke6isf: then... why do some people still prefer lilo? (i am just curious) |
| 06:32.13 | ke6isf | !tell MrPrimate -about nvidia |
| 06:32.22 | ke6isf | squareff: Religious reasons, I guess. |
| 06:32.22 | scruffy | noir: apci=off apm=off |
| 06:32.28 | noir | i run the command and nothing appears |
| 06:32.31 | spdf | MrPrimate, nvidia-glx |
| 06:32.42 | spdf | MrPrimate, its in non-free... |
| 06:32.44 | squareff | ke6isf: nice answer |
| 06:33.07 | hytt | lilo is more easy to understand/use, but grub is more powerfull |
| 06:33.10 | kevix | MrPrimate: dpkg -S filename (for packaes on your system) apt-file search filename (for all packages) |
| 06:33.29 | ke6isf | hytt: Grub, in my experience, Just Works. |
| 06:33.31 | MrPrimate | spdf : thx, cool, |
| 06:33.39 | MrPrimate | kevix: nice to know how to find that |
| 06:34.16 | kevix | squareff: have you tried using a livecd and chrooting to the hd and edited fstab and redo lilo ? |
| 06:34.33 | scruffy | noir: you have to edit your boot loader (grub? lilo?) configuration file, then add apci=off apm=off at the end of your kernel line. If that makes no sense to you, then take that information and find some information about lilo or grub in /usr/share/doc or google. Disabling those *might* fix your problem. |
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| 06:35.12 | noir | ok |
| 06:35.18 | noir | let me do it then |
| 06:35.21 | noir | wait |
| 06:35.41 | squareff | kevix: i do this quite often. now the problem is that i am trying to do it for somebody halfway around the world. and that person is less than a newbye. |
| 06:35.53 | kevix | MrPrimate: if you want nvidia kernel modules, learn about 'module-assistant' |
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| 06:36.04 | bonz | kevix: lilo is pretty much the same for me |
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| 06:36.35 | noir | whats the diference between acpi and apic? |
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| 06:36.58 | kevix | squareff: well all I can say is that the move you prepare for problems -- the less travel for you?! |
| 06:37.00 | scruffy | noir: one was a typo. acpi is correct |
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| 06:37.13 | johnny_nubie | hytt: ok, so if these statements are in the sshd_config files on the server and client, how does one invoke the connection? |
| 06:37.19 | noir | ohh, so that's the one i want to disable right? |
| 06:37.39 | ke6isf | noir: As much difference as there is between drinking glasses and pancakes. |
| 06:37.40 | kevix | johnny_nubie: ssh -X |
| 06:37.51 | noir | done!, let restart and cross fingers hehe, i hope i solve the problem |
| 06:37.59 | noir | one more thing |
| 06:38.01 | scruffy | noir: I'd try both apm=off and acpi=off |
| 06:38.08 | bonz | ke6isf: there is a difference is there? |
| 06:38.20 | scruffy | noir: make sure you give yourself to boot into a "safe" kernel before you reboot! |
| 06:38.47 | noir | my system was working just fine before i made the kernel recompiling, so is there any posibility that i damage something in my computer? |
| 06:39.04 | ke6isf | noir: Did blue smoke come out of the back? |
| 06:39.19 | noir | umm, not yet hehe |
| 06:39.23 | spdf | I doubt a compile would have damaged something.. |
| 06:39.25 | scruffy | noir: not damage probably, but you probably should've stuck with the debian kernels. |
| 06:39.37 | ke6isf | noir: Then if the magic smoke is still contained, you're probably fine. Just keep your water glass away from the computer. |
| 06:39.54 | kevix | noir: 'damage' no, possibly a temporaryly non-booting computer, yes |
| 06:40.46 | noir | cool, then i have to take care before making big things around |
| 06:40.52 | scruffy | noir: if you're using grub, it may already have a line in there to let you boot into single user mode to fix boo boos. You'll have to check and see. |
| 06:41.27 | noir | ok, restarting, i hope it work and see you in few seconds, or minutes |
| 06:41.32 | noir | thanks everyone! |
| 06:41.47 | kevix | noir: the most handy thing to have is a livecd or a boot floppy for those cases. |
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| 06:42.44 | noir | ok, bye then |
| 06:44.00 | kevix | does anyone know how to tell if a computer uses apm, apci. I'm trying to get 'shutdown' to completely shutdown! |
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| 06:44.23 | spdf | What brand/model of motherboard? |
| 06:44.40 | johnny_nubie | whats my command line text editor command? |
| 06:44.49 | johnny_nubie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.01 | spdf | johnny_nubie, nano's probably the easiest for you... |
| 06:45.04 | scruffy | johnny_nubie: nano, vim? |
| 06:45.09 | johnny_nubie | sweet, thanks |
| 06:45.10 | kevix | spdf: its a compaq/amd/via mb |
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| 06:46.19 | spdf | kevix, any more info you can provide? |
| 06:46.22 | Zoo | hi all, I finally made it.. but in desire need of some support with configuring Acer Aspire 3610 actually 3613 graphic resolution to higher than 800x 600 |
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| 06:47.06 | Zoo | I got the Debian Bible ,, but its not 3.1, and also other books as well.. I guess I was kind of dumb for netinst? I just don't want to download the 14 cd's or have dvd burner yet |
| 06:47.26 | Zoo | dang theres alot of people in here |
| 06:47.28 | spdf | netinst is fine |
| 06:47.38 | Zoo | just like debian having alot of packages :P |
| 06:47.42 | spdf | !tell Zoo about drxx |
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| 06:47.57 | Zoo | tyvm |
| 06:48.18 | deefzi | netinst is fine and handy. |
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| 06:48.30 | spdf | Zoo, do that. Select the resolutions you'd like.. make sure the Horiz/Vert sync's and such are properly configured for your monitor.. |
| 06:48.34 | Zoo | I got the ambition for debian, after I just was tired of trying out different systems. but I am into alot.. go to Robert Morris College, they had a bug with netinst.. can ya help me with that |
| 06:49.00 | kevix | spdf: VIa Apollo pro? is that it? |
| 06:49.10 | Zoo | thats the thing.. even called acer corp.. but they couldn't give me the vertical or horizontal sync rates >_< |
| 06:49.24 | Zoo | I was pissed |
| 06:49.31 | Zoo | I can't even find the dang information on the web |
| 06:49.40 | Zoo | -> >_< |
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| 06:49.50 | spdf | Er.. Thats a laptop right? |
| 06:49.54 | Zoo | yep lol |
| 06:50.08 | spdf | Zoo, So.. 60hz is your refresh... |
| 06:50.08 | Zoo | I would put it on my workstation. my nice AMD 2600 :D |
| 06:50.34 | kevix | Zoo: you need the first 2 CD images (the cd's are sorted by popularity--thus the 14th has the least popular) |
| 06:50.42 | Zoo | bought last year.. added an nvidia.. I in Robert Morris College for Computer Science. dang I feel crazy :| |
| 06:50.43 | spdf | Do you know the native resolution of it? |
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| 06:50.59 | Zoo | sorry I kind of out in space |
| 06:51.07 | Zoo | hi kevix and thanks spdf |
| 06:51.17 | nvz | Zoo: where do you live at? |
| 06:51.21 | kevix | Zoo: welcome to Debian! |
| 06:51.22 | Zoo | USA |
| 06:51.27 | spdf | Illinois? |
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| 06:51.28 | Zoo | oh and I feel welcomed.. hee |
| 06:51.34 | Zoo | :) |
| 06:51.36 | spdf | Peoria ;) |
| 06:51.40 | nvz | Zoo: no shit sherlock. Robert Morris College is right across the river from me |
| 06:51.43 | Zoo | I am into IDS lol.. |
| 06:51.46 | Gnea | hrm |
| 06:51.53 | Zoo | I just havn't bought an nfr yet :P |
| 06:51.59 | nvz | Zoo: its actually not called Robert Morris College anymore |
| 06:52.04 | daos | is there a chan here for squid? |
| 06:52.04 | Zoo | PHLAK wasn't really my interest |
| 06:52.09 | kevix | Zoo: these days google is an IDS... |
| 06:52.12 | Zoo | spdf ;) |
| 06:52.17 | Gnea | daos: #squid ? |
| 06:52.19 | Zoo | lmao |
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| 06:52.28 | Zoo | I'm erasing my notebook drive lol |
| 06:52.35 | nvz | Its called Robert Morris University and they renamed Beer School Road to University Blvd. IIRC |
| 06:52.52 | Zoo | well I don't care what they call it.. as long as the $ money is right and the women :) |
| 06:52.56 | Gnea | nvz: must be a penn thing :) |
| 06:53.10 | Zoo | and yep I'm from Peoria, but I am moving to Chicago.. |
| 06:53.13 | nvz | Gnea: what? |
| 06:53.23 | Zoo | my dns are in Chi lol and somewhere else :) |
| 06:53.46 | Gnea | nvz: RMU? |
| 06:53.49 | Zoo | I am studying building wireless community networks. and all other things.. Just need help with that dang mobile graphic cards and I pissed |
| 06:53.58 | daos | can anyone help me with Active Directory authentication and squid? |
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| 06:54.05 | daos | I have it working but it is always asking for a username/passwd, but no domain creds work? |
| 06:54.11 | nvz | Gnea: RMU is in Moon Township, PA right across the street from "The Beer Store" |
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| 06:54.22 | Gnea | daos: hrm, never done that before... |
| 06:54.36 | Gnea | nvz: the beer store? i'm there. |
| 06:54.38 | nvz | they should call it Poon township. lots of pretty rich girls |
| 06:54.38 | Gnea | ;) |
| 06:54.48 | ke6isf | !beer gnea |
| 06:54.51 | Zoo | and thanks lots spdf, and Kevix.. feel welcomed.. debian got my support after I get a dang job.. dang no one higher anybody these days.. and working on systems .. ain't makin much so I can get me a debian shirt :P |
| 06:54.53 | Gnea | :D |
| 06:54.56 | Gnea | !beer ke6isf |
| 06:55.05 | Gnea | cheers |
| 06:55.06 | ke6isf | Gnea: Why, thank you, sir. =^_^= |
| 06:55.10 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:55.11 | kevix | Zoo: in NYC we have Nycwireless.net, the site is all about that! |
| 06:55.29 | Zoo | I am gettin into fiber as well |
| 06:55.43 | daos | Gnea: damn, thanks |
| 06:55.52 | Gnea | Zoo: it's a very competitive market |
| 06:55.54 | nvz | yeah I wouldnt mind some drugs and alcohol right about now. but its 3am so I might as well goto sleep at least untill they start selling alcohol again. |
| 06:55.54 | Zoo | wasn't that funny in hackers 1.. wouldn't you like to get your hands on one of those gibsons.. now its like.. I would like to get my hands on OC768 and a Super Comp :D |
| 06:56.06 | Gnea | daos: google doesn't have anything? |
| 06:56.12 | daos | Gnea: is actually fairly simple, its just getting squid to talk to ad |
| 06:56.15 | Zoo | or get into Clustering :) |
| 06:56.24 | FlimFlamMan | should debs created from rpms with alien on one sarge machine work on another? |
| 06:56.28 | ke6isf | Zoo: yes, imagine a beowulf cluster of those. |
| 06:56.30 | Gnea | daos: ad... that kerberos? |
| 06:56.44 | daos | Gnea; sure is |
| 06:56.44 | Phated | FlimFlamMan: The conversion is not machine-specific, so technically, yes. |
| 06:56.53 | Zoo | I still reading all the time. and dang College.. stressed.. and debian had me stressed with the dang 800 x 600 |
| 06:57.09 | FlimFlamMan | Phated, thanks |
| 06:57.14 | nvz | get some alcohol later this morning then call off work :P for friday night anyhow.. not for today. |
| 06:57.16 | Gnea | daos: i keep hearing more and more about this kerberos thing.. apparantly it's been around for quite awhile, but i never understood the point... |
| 06:57.23 | Zoo | I was all geaked up after the third time I did the netinst.. and the other 2 times i felt like giving up. but I feel debian is my destiny |
| 06:57.52 | daos | Gnea: but samba already talks, and I have told squid to use the NTLM as documented |
| 06:57.57 | Gnea | Zoo: it takes time, but it's worth it :) |
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| 06:58.08 | Zoo | funny thing is. the instructor that is really into linux systems at the school. he only uses it for the servers... me I like using everything |
| 06:58.10 | FlimFlamMan | why in the world would afacli (raid management tool) require aRts |
| 06:58.15 | Zoo | ty Gnea |
| 06:58.16 | daos | Gnea: yeah, its just another auth protocol |
| 06:58.30 | Zoo | I am open minded. proud of it.. debian and me got alot in common :) |
| 06:58.41 | daos | Gnea: but it is pretty secure and ms are using it as a standard now |
| 06:58.43 | Zoo | can't wait to get a shirt for Christmas :D |
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| 06:58.57 | kevix | Zoo: you can always get a nice Knoppix cd or order a ubuntu cd to have just in case! |
| 06:59.00 | Zoo | got it |
| 06:59.06 | Zoo | done |
| 06:59.09 | Gnea | daos: ick... well, i might have to do something like that soon |
| 06:59.10 | Zoo | already done it |
| 06:59.28 | Zoo | kubuntu, ubuntu, knoppxi, phlak, adios selinux, etc etc |
| 06:59.35 | Zoo | knoppix* |
| 06:59.39 | Zoo | vmware etc etc |
| 06:59.54 | Zoo | I am not the operating system noob lmao |
| 07:00.04 | Zoo | theres more than that too lol |
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| 07:00.14 | Zoo | I alreayd know about the phlak pen drives lmao |
| 07:00.18 | spdf | Man. I'm getting a headache. What's that about... |
| 07:00.23 | Zoo | :O |
| 07:00.34 | Zoo | i was gettin a headache at the 800x600 |
| 07:00.50 | spdf | That'll do it. :/ |
| 07:00.54 | Zoo | hee |
| 07:00.55 | Zoo | yep |
| 07:01.03 | Zoo | question |
| 07:01.08 | kevix | Zoo: what video card? did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg) ? |
| 07:01.14 | Zoo | its a Vesa screen |
| 07:01.17 | johnny_nubie | i'm trying to ssh - X and I'm getting "the server is already active for display 0 ... if this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again |
| 07:01.33 | spdf | Zoo, Probably not. The Aspire probably uses an integrated intel or ati.. |
| 07:01.42 | Zoo | ty all you debian peeps too.. enjoy ya helpin the iT geared guy |
| 07:01.54 | kevix | johnny_nubie: 'ssh -X' not 'ssh - X' |
| 07:01.56 | Zoo | probably not? o-O |
| 07:02.22 | Zoo | should I take the debian 3.1 netinst cd I got .. and use it as frisbie golf.. oops I Forgot.. season over :P |
| 07:02.44 | kevix | Zoo: what does 'lspci' say for video? |
| 07:02.46 | johnny_nubie | kevix : how do i tell the client what host? |
| 07:02.51 | Zoo | I was tempted to steal the book from Barnes & Noble's .. but I am going buy it for $39 |
| 07:02.55 | spdf | Zoo, as I suspected, it uses an Intel... |
| 07:02.59 | Zoo | yeah.. I did that.. |
| 07:03.11 | Zoo | was reading and stuff.. |
| 07:03.33 | madradrone | johnny_nubie: are you sshing as the user that X is running as on remote system? |
| 07:03.33 | Zoo | was reading everything I could at Barnes & Nobles.. grabb'd that book right off the shelf |
| 07:03.53 | Zoo | hey spdf and kevix |
| 07:04.03 | Zoo | when I get some money. maybe I can send ya'll something for Christmas |
| 07:04.07 | johnny_nubie | madradrone - I guess so ? |
| 07:04.08 | aris | authdaemond.ldap: ldap_simple_bind_s failed: |
| 07:04.10 | Phated | Zoo: What book did you want to steal? |
| 07:04.11 | aris | i need help |
| 07:04.18 | Zoo | i appreciate cool people |
| 07:04.20 | kevix | Zoo: you may want to get the book from 'debiansystem.info' its more debian and more technical than the debian bible |
| 07:04.24 | spdf | Zoo, You want to use the "i810" driver for X... |
| 07:04.34 | Zoo | not going to steal it.. I am going buy it from Barnes And NObles |
| 07:04.42 | Phated | 'it' ==? |
| 07:04.44 | Zoo | I already have plenty and plenty of books lol |
| 07:05.08 | Zoo | I wouldn't want to flood the room with all the pdfs.. and havn't scanned my A+ boooks lol :P |
| 07:05.23 | Zoo | I got lab sims and all.. Routersim all kinds of stuff lol |
| 07:05.25 | johnny_nubie | madradrone - should I be in kde to begin this connection? |
| 07:05.47 | spdf | Well, in the mean time... lets get you all setup and on your way to a brighter and happier "large resolution" future.. |
| 07:05.52 | Zoo | spdf and Kevix. going get access to some fiber optical servers for there generosity :) |
| 07:06.10 | Zoo | debian ,, I goin buy a shirt from u lol |
| 07:06.16 | Zoo | when I get the money :D |
| 07:06.23 | Zoo | and I get the higher res :D |
| 07:06.27 | Zoo | yep spoopin |
| 07:06.31 | Zoo | spdf |
| 07:06.40 | Zoo | sorry for rampage |
| 07:06.43 | spdf | Zoo, Are you using Xorg or Xfree86? |
| 07:06.51 | Zoo | I am gettin ready to put it back on |
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| 07:07.01 | Zoo | going go through clean fresh install.. want to help me bub |
| 07:07.06 | spdf | Zoo, Oh.. Well.. When you do, the driver you want to use is "i810" |
| 07:07.21 | Zoo | can you help me through netinst.. or should I Get some cd's.. |
| 07:07.36 | spdf | the sarge netinst should be fine.. |
| 07:07.38 | Gnea | Zoo: netinst is pretty straight forward these days :) |
| 07:07.39 | Zoo | I Know with my ambition I have. I should do it on my own. but I tell you.. I stressin |
| 07:07.54 | Gnea | it's easy |
| 07:08.12 | Zoo | debian so dang pretty. but it be prettier it be in higher res on my dang new notebook with plasma dang crystal brite better than any monitor I ever had :P |
| 07:08.19 | Gnea | pop the cd in, boot it up, go through the menus, answer some questions and it takes care of it |
| 07:08.21 | kevix | Zoo: on most debian installs, X,kde,gnome are not installed by default, so when you do the install X will not be there until you install all of it |
| 07:08.31 | Zoo | k give couple mins |
| 07:08.54 | Zoo | thing is.. gettin ready too.. drive 82% zero'd out |
| 07:08.58 | Gnea | sarge was a definate improvement |
| 07:09.08 | Gnea | ah cool :) |
| 07:09.12 | Zoo | I need all the help I can get |
| 07:09.26 | Gnea | you got the netinst cd ready? |
| 07:09.32 | johnny_nubie | um - |
| 07:09.33 | Zoo | I'm highly in the forensic of computing information as well. and IT, and computer science dang you name it. but I just need to read so much I can't take it |
| 07:09.34 | spdf | Haha.. Anyone else watch the Linux "Voluntary Milking System" video.. |
| 07:09.37 | sep | Zoo, then reading the install manual sounds like a good idea |
| 07:09.51 | Zoo | lol sep |
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| 07:09.56 | Gnea | spdf: the what? |
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| 07:10.03 | Zoo | guess what though |
| 07:10.04 | noir | ok |
| 07:10.05 | mateusz | Hi |
| 07:10.09 | spdf | Gnea, One sec.. URL coming.. |
| 07:10.13 | Gnea | cool |
| 07:10.14 | Zoo | guess what spdf, kevix, Gnea,, |
| 07:10.19 | scruffy | noir: blue flames? |
| 07:10.20 | noir | stills bootable hehe |
| 07:10.24 | sep | Zoo, but actualy the sarge installer is selfexplaining... if you have no special needs or wierd hardware |
| 07:10.25 | mateusz | I have a problem with pbuilder |
| 07:10.26 | mateusz | readlink: Need exactly one argument. |
| 07:10.26 | Zoo | got something tell ya |
| 07:10.29 | johnny_nubie | ok, can I run a xserver through ssh, and how do I make that happen? |
| 07:10.30 | mateusz | any help ? |
| 07:10.34 | noir | no, at least yet :P |
| 07:10.37 | Gnea | the anticipation is crumbling like cake |
| 07:10.39 | scruffy | noir: that was a long reboot |
| 07:10.45 | spdf | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4275702675.html |
| 07:10.49 | noir | in deed |
| 07:10.56 | spdf | Zoo, Don't tell me. You see dead people? |
| 07:10.59 | Zoo | I need my dang specs on the the dang horiztonal and vertical sync rates though >_< >_< you ont understanding.. acer being a pain |
| 07:10.59 | scruffy | noir: hamster powered? :) |
| 07:10.59 | Gnea | johnny_nubie: a whole x server or just some x apps? |
| 07:11.00 | noir | there was a message about some fatal |
| 07:11.13 | mateusz | ?? |
| 07:11.14 | johnny_nubie | Gnea - im open |
| 07:11.16 | jm_ | johnny_nubie: no, X server takes over your console, makes no sense to start it via ssh, but you can do it if you really want |
| 07:11.20 | noir | can i see boot messages somewhere? |
| 07:11.24 | spdf | Zoo, You have a laptop. So, it only does 60hz.. |
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| 07:11.27 | johnny_nubie | i'd prefer to emulate remote desktop as close as possible |
| 07:11.29 | Gnea | Zoo: what's the make and model # of the monitor? |
| 07:11.31 | jm_ | noir: man bootlogd |
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| 07:11.38 | Zoo | I called up Acer Sat, after couple days of me not even gettin the dang thing |
| 07:11.38 | scruffy | noir: so the kernel options let you boot the machine? |
| 07:11.39 | noir | great |
| 07:11.46 | noir | yeap |
| 07:11.51 | Zoo | I do alot of things on my own. but when I can't figure the dang things out.. I get.. >_< |
| 07:12.01 | Zoo | got 2 machines. just recently got nice laptop |
| 07:12.03 | Gnea | johnny_nubie: well X has always had the option of being able to run remote apps on the current display/desktop |
| 07:12.06 | Zoo | give me sec |
| 07:12.18 | johnny_nubie | Gnea - where can I research this? |
| 07:12.19 | kevix | johnny_nubie: http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-6.html |
| 07:12.19 | Gnea | johnny_nubie: and ssh does this by default, you just have to set a few parameters |
| 07:12.51 | Guerin | johnny_nubie: xdmcp over ssh |
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| 07:13.04 | Zoo | and dang. pc bsd didn't even recognize my keyboard layout.. people think debian is hard.. LOL |
| 07:13.06 | Guerin | johnny_nubie: there's a tldp.org howto for it |
| 07:13.07 | johnny_nubie | ...reading.... |
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| 07:13.10 | Gnea | !sshx |
| 07:13.11 | dpkg | somebody said sshx was Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 07:13.16 | Gnea | johnny_nubie: check that ^^ |
| 07:13.21 | Zoo | brb guys. and thanks |
| 07:13.23 | Guerin | Gnea: that's not what he wants |
| 07:13.30 | Gnea | Guerin: shut up. |
| 07:13.30 | jm_ | he doesn't know what he wants ;) |
| 07:13.50 | Zoo | thanks spdf, kevix, and Gnea |
| 07:13.52 | johnny_nubie | that's prolly true |
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| 07:13.57 | Zoo | I wil be back in a min |
| 07:14.13 | Guerin | Gnea: how is that anything like a remote desktop? |
| 07:14.15 | kevix | Zoo: sleep 60 |
| 07:14.29 | noir | umm |
| 07:15.00 | Gnea | Guerin: heh, it runs the program over ssh to display on the local X display, thus solving all of his requirements: a) running it over ssh b) keeping it as local as possible. |
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| 07:16.01 | mhall | Hello. Are there any UKers here who can explain the meaning of the expression "bloody cheek" ? |
| 07:16.07 | Zoo | oh and. another thing I really want to do. is configure vmware on debian. I already have it in compressed file |
| 07:16.15 | Zoo | but yes.. resolution important |
| 07:16.17 | noir | no, i can see the boot log |
| 07:16.27 | Guerin | mhall: bloody is an expletive; to have a cheek is to be cheeky |
| 07:16.31 | noir | bootlogd: cannot find console device 136:0 in /dev |
| 07:16.39 | Gnea | mhall: no, but are you aware of vpnc? |
| 07:16.50 | Zoo | VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar kaboom 8-) |
| 07:17.09 | mhall | Gnea: Not sure. Have you got a non-acronymic implementation? |
| 07:17.17 | scruffy | noir: it's haunted |
| 07:17.19 | mhall | Guerin: to be cheeky... is what? |
| 07:17.23 | kevix | mhall: not a uker--but 'bloody'(very) 'cheeky' (sarcastic) ? |
| 07:17.39 | Guerin | mhall: to be audacious or rude |
| 07:17.52 | Guerin | mhall: you might say sassy |
| 07:17.59 | Zoo | laptop nice though spdf, wasn't nothing we all expected. people thinkin we was going get dells' , I was like nah. might be ibm thinkpads.. I bet debian would of booted up quite nice on the IBM, thinkpad.. and 1 more important thing, configuring wireless , and dvd support and ripping.. all kinds of stuff and whatever I can offer in debian support |
| 07:18.03 | noir | scruffy, nvidia drivers are good? or it's better to use debian reps |
| 07:18.05 | Gnea | mhall: a what? no no, apt-cache show vpnc |
| 07:18.10 | mhall | Guerin: ah thanks |
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| 07:18.25 | kevix | Guerin: yea. that's it: rude (got my wires crossed) |
| 07:18.37 | spdf | Zoo, well, find out what chipset the wireless is using, and then we can help.. dvd burning is easy enough.. plenty of info on the net for that stuff.. |
| 07:18.42 | Guerin | kevix: I'm not a UKer either |
| 07:18.42 | scruffy | !tell noir about nvidia |
| 07:18.49 | Zoo | np |
| 07:18.52 | mhall | Gnea: I'll have to take a look at it. |
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| 07:18.58 | Gnea | mhall: i found this the other day after our discussion on networking, didn't know if you knew about it or not or if you were taunting me to find it ;) |
| 07:19.23 | Zoo | got it |
| 07:19.24 | mhall | Gnea: looks like a pretty elegant tool |
| 07:19.29 | Zoo | can I post link about Notebook |
| 07:19.29 | Gnea | mhall: yeah it does |
| 07:19.39 | mhall | Gnea: me personally, i've not met a piece of Cisco equipment i didn't despise |
| 07:19.40 | Zoo | if its oks |
| 07:19.41 | kevix | Guerin: maybe a anglophile! |
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| 07:19.45 | mhall | Gnea: i can't understand why people use it |
| 07:19.52 | mhall | Gnea: their website and support suck |
| 07:19.59 | mhall | Gnea: training costs way too much |
| 07:19.59 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 07:20.03 | mhall | Gnea: interface is terrible |
| 07:20.07 | Zoo | got debian 3.1 netinst all ready to go and all. and another thing. what was the deal on the bug with the netinst |
| 07:20.16 | spdf | Zoo, Which bug? |
| 07:20.17 | Zoo | with the security bug |
| 07:20.17 | mhall | Gnea: and the equipment always seems to malfunction |
| 07:20.24 | mhall | Gnea: i just don't comprehend it |
| 07:20.33 | spdf | Zoo, and which netinst? Sarge/Etch? |
| 07:20.36 | Zoo | hey spdf you seem really cool m8 |
| 07:20.43 | Gnea | mhall: oh but have you seen their stock price?! ;) |
| 07:20.44 | Zoo | sarge |
| 07:20.46 | mhall | Gnea: i think they must be very good at pinpointing what kind of blowjobs to give to which executives |
| 07:20.46 | spdf | Ahh. 3.1 Gotcha.. |
| 07:20.50 | Zoo | yep |
| 07:20.53 | scruffy | noir: not sure about the console device error. Check out the MAKEDEV manpage. |
| 07:20.59 | bbrazil | Zoo: if you got your image at least 2 days after the realse, you're fine |
| 07:21.05 | Zoo | k |
| 07:21.10 | Gnea | mhall: that thought had occurred to me as well. |
| 07:21.10 | kevix | Zoo: the sarge iso? (they forgot to uncomment a line in /etc/apt/source.list) |
| 07:21.19 | noir | well i need a class of hardware hehehe |
| 07:21.20 | noir | ok |
| 07:21.23 | noir | lets see |
| 07:21.30 | scruffy | noir: also check dmesg again to see if you see any Disk errors that I previously mentioned. |
| 07:21.30 | Zoo | can't you set to get packages from the /root etc.. and change the repositories etc |
| 07:21.46 | Zoo | yep kevix lol |
| 07:21.52 | Zoo | whose they lol |
| 07:21.54 | Zoo | :P |
| 07:22.09 | Gnea | hrm |
| 07:22.20 | Zoo | I'll call em up ! and be like. where's my new Acer Aspire 3610 Notebook support :P |
| 07:22.32 | noir | well, in dmesg no error on disk, i hope that good |
| 07:22.36 | Gnea | ah ha |
| 07:22.36 | mhall | is it an acer turion notebook |
| 07:22.47 | Zoo | maybe we all team up, and make a debian base OS,, Notebook Linux :P or Acer Linux :P |
| 07:22.49 | mhall | if so the dsdts in those seem to be really screwy |
| 07:22.54 | mhall | i had to hack the hell out of mine |
| 07:22.58 | mhall | ugly ugly ugly |
| 07:22.58 | scruffy | noir: yeah, good that isn't the reason bootlogd was complaining |
| 07:23.02 | Zoo | lol mhall, I wish |
| 07:23.06 | Gnea | Zoo: have you been to this site? http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ |
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| 07:23.27 | Zoo | Celeron M, they didn't want to spoil us that much. and with the money we spending.. you think would be AMD Turion :P |
| 07:23.36 | Zoo | --> http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as3610.htm |
| 07:23.38 | Gnea | oh my.... |
| 07:23.53 | Zoo | there. all the help I can get.. would greatly appreciate it. and I appreciating alot |
| 07:24.05 | Zoo | thats what I got |
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| 07:24.13 | kevix | Zoo: the debian packages are stored on /var/cache/apt/archive as per FHS and Debian policy |
| 07:24.16 | Zoo | I didn't have to pay for mine mhall |
| 07:24.23 | scruffy | noir: use update-rc.d to install the scripts for bootlogd and reboot. you should end up with a /var/log/boot.log |
| 07:24.30 | spdf | I just bought a presario 2305.. got everything working except hibernation.. |
| 07:24.35 | widrone | Zoo: You doing laptop install, laptops are always fun and games. |
| 07:24.36 | Zoo | can't you change the source list later |
| 07:24.42 | spdf | Zoo, yeh. |
| 07:24.45 | Zoo | k |
| 07:24.49 | mhall | widrone: that's putting it quite diplomatically to be sure |
| 07:25.11 | Zoo | been inspired by linux and open source for over a year now. used it since last spring.. of 2004.. just not pro yet.. :P |
| 07:25.27 | widrone | mhall: I got 4 different ones to do diplomacy with, so yeah. |
| 07:25.30 | Zoo | I'm into all kinds of systems.. not just linux. and with pc bsd. but I going slap em :P |
| 07:26.01 | mhall | widrone: i bet you are the happiest of the happy campers |
| 07:26.04 | Gnea | Zoo: apt-setup can do that too |
| 07:26.24 | widrone | Zoo: Different arches too or just ix86_ I got two arm machines running debian aswell. |
| 07:26.31 | kevix | Zoo: folks still like bsd for routers and firewalls... |
| 07:26.33 | Zoo | dang fast motha effin system I have ever installed and been on. but it didnt' set up my keyboard layout right. and yep widrone, I know i could install debian on my AMD AThlon XP 2600, Mach Speed motherboard, nvida geforce fx 5200 and have no problems. but yes.. laptops are funny |
| 07:26.56 | noir | something about error expected NN after start |
| 07:26.57 | Zoo | yep, Mac OS X nice project huh ;) |
| 07:27.15 | johnny_nubie | ok, so if i'm invoking ssh-X, do I want to not be in KDE on my client already? |
| 07:27.18 | Zoo | hince forth.. debian smokin bsd though in my aspect,, more distrobutions.. more support |
| 07:27.19 | scruffy | noir: paste it to #flood |
| 07:27.29 | mhall | bsd is teh sux |
| 07:27.33 | Zoo | my outlook though. 2 each there own.. :) |
| 07:27.53 | scruffy | mhall: especially teh upgrades |
| 07:27.54 | mhall | it does not improve very fast because people can make derivatives and not contribute them back to the core |
| 07:27.55 | Zoo | like I say.. I'm open minded. me and debian got alot in common.. cough |
| 07:27.56 | Gnea | Zoo: the page doesn't have many specs listed |
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| 07:28.21 | Zoo | 1 sec |
| 07:28.27 | Zoo | thanks Gnea for lookin |
| 07:28.47 | Zoo | I am just about to boot my friendly debian back up.. I know it just wants me to get all fustrated. but give it a 4th try |
| 07:28.59 | Zoo | :) |
| 07:29.03 | deefzi | i try to log in using ssh-client. everything goes ok until i type my login name (doesn't matter whether i try root or normal uus) and press return. then all of a sudden the terminal (putty) disappears. |
| 07:29.07 | kevix | mhall: its true, the licenses DO affect the way the communities build themselves! |
| 07:29.13 | Zoo | lmao, I will give all the acer notebook people support lol after I get this going |
| 07:29.43 | Gnea | heh |
| 07:29.52 | deefzi | what's wrong in my ssh config? i've tried both login from LAN and from WAN |
| 07:30.08 | mhall | kevix: it's cool for something like X where people benefit from contributing to the core even though it's not required |
| 07:30.14 | Zoo | jus sec. I have other site customer service rep gave me Gnea |
| 07:30.16 | scruffy | deefzi: might be in /etc/hosts.{deny,allow} |
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| 07:30.25 | mhall | kevix: a proprietary X extension will never go anyplace because nobody will be able to run the apps it uses |
| 07:30.28 | Gnea | Zoo: cool |
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| 07:30.36 | mhall | kevix: but we all know how far proprietary hw drivers go |
| 07:30.40 | mhall | kevix: they just don't quite |
| 07:30.49 | Zoo | no , its thank you so much. |
| 07:30.52 | mhall | kevix: they are fucking radioactive and poison all code nearby |
| 07:30.52 | Gnea | deefzi: not sure - in linux i just use the standard ssh client, no need to use putty unless in winblowz |
| 07:30.53 | Zoo | thats what it is |
| 07:31.02 | noir | what, the error? |
| 07:31.12 | Zoo | and to you spdf, and kevix |
| 07:31.13 | deefzi | scruffy, both are empty, except #:ed lines |
| 07:31.27 | deefzi | Gnea, the problem isn't putty itself. it's something on sshd |
| 07:31.28 | Zoo | and thanks mhall as well for making me drool on your Acer Turion :P |
| 07:31.38 | mhall | Zoo: not so fast |
| 07:31.38 | widrone | Dang, I soo bonkered my bootsequence somehow. And it aint all fun and games when there is only network and usb on the box, even if it does run debian. |
| 07:31.44 | mhall | Zoo: you didn't try to configure it yet |
| 07:31.59 | Zoo | but you see. I am going flip out, and set up a dust free environment, and slap in a Centrino |
| 07:32.07 | Zoo | smile :) |
| 07:32.17 | scruffy | deefzi: hosts.allow: ALL: LOCAL, hosts.deny: ALL: ALL, restart sshd. does that work? |
| 07:32.22 | Zoo | maybe , I get Centrino 64 when it come out.. :P |
| 07:32.30 | Zoo | even though I am powered AMD fan.. |
| 07:32.33 | kevix | mhall: mac osx could only be built with a bsd like license. It allows apple to use floss but not give back. |
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| 07:32.41 | Zoo | 8-) |
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| 07:32.42 | Gnea | deefzi: have you editted /etc/ssh/sshd_config at all? |
| 07:33.06 | Gnea | Zoo: ahahaha |
| 07:33.07 | Zoo | I got link |
| 07:33.13 | Zoo | yep hahaha |
| 07:33.22 | Zoo | into alot of systems .. I luv technology and it loves us |
| 07:33.28 | Zoo | :) |
| 07:33.31 | deefzi | Gnea, no. except i updated from stable to testing. |
| 07:33.43 | Gnea | Zoo: that's debatable, but go on.. :) |
| 07:33.50 | Zoo | I just wanted to jump off the window's band wagon before it got into the forceful Window's Vista :P |
| 07:33.55 | deefzi | Gnea, it prompted some questions, but afaik i didn't do anything that would occur as login-failures |
| 07:34.00 | mhall | kevix: well i'm no fan of os x |
| 07:34.02 | Gnea | deefzi: did ssh get updated too? and how did you upgrade? |
| 07:34.03 | scruffy | deefzi: PasswordAuthentication might be set to 'no' |
| 07:34.16 | Zoo | I been into linux user environment since spring of 2004,, |
| 07:34.18 | scruffy | deefzi: (in sshd_config) |
| 07:34.22 | mhall | kevix: i wish they would use standard unix and prevent Microsoft from fracturing the market into shards of incompatibility |
| 07:34.23 | deefzi | scruffy, so it seems :-) |
| 07:34.51 | scruffy | deefzi: in any case, you might like keys better |
| 07:34.58 | mhall | kevix: it is because of the fractures in the competition that microsoft can strangle the driver availability etc |
| 07:35.00 | Gnea | Zoo: cool, win95 killed my monitor back in '95, i went to os/2 then linux a year later |
| 07:35.11 | mhall | Gnea: bad refresh? |
| 07:35.16 | Zoo | Mandrake was my first.. 10.0, then Xandros Busines 2.0, tried Fedora, and even Red Hat, didn't care too much.. maybe was the GUI , oh well.. Linspire 4.5 ,, tried it tonite. dont' like the cnr, and LINspire 5.0 have it. but neh.. Debian callin me in my sleep |
| 07:35.28 | noir | well it's real time |
| 07:35.42 | Zoo | I have Xandros DEluxe 3.0 and Business 3.0 as well. but I want to get laptop configured to luv the heck out of Debian |
| 07:35.42 | Gnea | mhall: yeah it was the first or second revision, fortunately i had a warranty so got it replaced at no cost, but it took time |
| 07:35.44 | noir | i have to sleep, but this machine will keep awake |
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| 07:35.51 | mhall | Gnea: sux0r |
| 07:35.58 | kevix | mhall: well the bsd folks seem to be getting active on the hw/driver front. more power to them! |
| 07:36.00 | Gnea | mhall: that's fry's for ya |
| 07:36.03 | noir | i hope it wont hang again |
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| 07:36.18 | mhall | Gnea: yeah they are good about returns though if you do not mind waiting |
| 07:36.18 | Zoo | dang and others.. Kubuntu, didn't care too much for Ubuntu, PC BSD was not so excitement because of keyboard was messed up |
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| 07:36.30 | Zoo | PHLAK 3.0, FreeSBIE, etc |
| 07:36.31 | mhall | Gnea: and i've had spectacular luck with their house brand wireless equipment |
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| 07:36.48 | mhall | Gnea: it's virgin reference logic board and bios designs |
| 07:36.57 | mhall | Gnea: so it does not always flake out like other stuff does |
| 07:36.58 | Zoo | anyways.. could go on for days about distro's.. but debian I know is destiny |
| 07:37.00 | Gnea | Zoo: yeah debian's bitchin', you should check out knoppix, and kanotix has all of the latest software |
| 07:37.14 | Zoo | already have |
| 07:37.17 | Gnea | oh cool |
| 07:37.25 | Zoo | knoppix was the first live cd I messed with lol |
| 07:37.27 | Gnea | i like kanotix, haven't used it in awhile tho |
| 07:37.29 | scruffy | noir: try, update-rc.d -f bootlogd defaults |
| 07:37.30 | Gnea | haha |
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| 07:37.33 | Gnea | :) |
| 07:37.53 | Zoo | hear about mepis and all. and you can just tell someone. want to be linux overwhelmed.. -> www.distrowatch.com |
| 07:38.03 | mhall | wireless equipment really pisses me off a lot |
| 07:38.03 | ejay69 | anyone could help me in IDEALX samba console please? |
| 07:38.06 | noir | still the same, tells me how to use it |
| 07:38.11 | Zoo | and yep.. I know a person can build there own live cd lol |
| 07:38.12 | Gnea | mhall: i always like it when they have walk-in discounts |
| 07:38.14 | noir | it's that normal? |
| 07:38.20 | Zoo | or even make 1 for flash drive lmfao |
| 07:38.22 | mhall | Gnea: oh yeah, their sales are pretty deluxe |
| 07:38.31 | Gnea | oh yeah, DSL |
| 07:38.33 | scruffy | noir: look in flood, bob2's |
| 07:38.34 | Gnea | 50meg distro |
| 07:38.38 | ejay69 | anyone could help me install IDEALX samba console please? |
| 07:38.47 | mhall | Gnea: nobody anywhere can beat the cheapest fry's price, and usually they don't run out of stock if you get there in a day or two |
| 07:38.55 | mhall | Gnea: so that's pretty cool of them imho |
| 07:38.56 | Zoo | Gnea my instructors and classmates overwhelmed with my ambition.. I just be having a nice smile when I get resolution to where I happy |
| 07:39.15 | Gnea | mhall: actually that's debatable, but yeah, fry's will usually have a good deal going on just about anytime |
| 07:39.27 | ejay69 | is this suppose to be the Debian channel? |
| 07:39.34 | Zoo | hey Gnea, spdf, and kevix.. I got site on my NOtebook.. I just givin the base.. don't want to give all the etc |
| 07:39.38 | Gnea | ejay69: no, it is the debian channel |
| 07:39.45 | mhall | Gnea: which part's debatable |
| 07:39.46 | Zoo | they just really busy ejay69 |
| 07:39.57 | Zoo | here ya go Gnea, -> http://www.acerpanam.com/synapse/forms/portal.cfm?website=AcerPanAm.com&originwebsite=AcerPanAm.com&pupv=pu&formid=3404#results |
| 07:39.59 | ejay69 | can i have help here? |
| 07:40.04 | Gnea | mhall: that they always have the best prices |
| 07:40.12 | Zoo | and spdf, and kevix. and mhall. and if you can get the sync rates LOL :P |
| 07:40.12 | noir | scruffy, did you know how to set up apache2, over the internet |
| 07:40.13 | noir | ? |
| 07:40.16 | xelam | ejay69: complain to the manager |
| 07:40.16 | Gnea | !tell ejay69 about rules |
| 07:40.17 | mhall | Gnea: no i didn't mean it quite like that |
| 07:40.26 | mhall | Zoo: oh which screen did you get |
| 07:40.31 | Gnea | mhall: oh heh ok |
| 07:40.32 | mhall | Zoo: the 1024x768 or the wide one |
| 07:40.34 | Zoo | Crystal Bright |
| 07:40.40 | ejay69 | !tell |
| 07:40.46 | mhall | Gnea: i meant, when they have their best price, that's unbeatable |
| 07:40.48 | scruffy | noir: whew, you're all over the place. :) apt-get -u install apache2 might work. |
| 07:40.54 | Zoo | here.. lmao. let me just boot up ubcd lmfao |
| 07:40.55 | mhall | Gnea: they can go lower than anybody when the want to |
| 07:41.00 | mhall | Gnea: they just don't always do it |
| 07:41.16 | kevix | Zoo: you can use knoppix and see if it can get better than 800x600, if so, get a copy of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ! |
| 07:41.27 | noir | jajaja, ok i mean, can you see my server? or its an special config that i have to do? |
| 07:41.41 | Zoo | yes I can get graphics with all type of linux systems based off my friend ebian |
| 07:41.45 | scruffy | noir: what do you want to do? |
| 07:41.50 | Zoo | debian! |
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| 07:42.00 | noir | i have apache already |
| 07:42.03 | shale | is there a pine-like email client? |
| 07:42.28 | mhall | Zoo: if you have the 1024x768 acer screen i will give you my config file |
| 07:42.28 | Zoo | thats because I know the nice programmers have built off debian! and they have configured X to run nice on Laptops!!! |
| 07:42.29 | xelam | I use pine ;) |
| 07:42.29 | mhall | !tell me about pine |
| 07:42.29 | mhall | !tell shale about pine |
| 07:42.33 | Zoo | I know I know about other distro's lmfao!!!! |
| 07:42.36 | scruffy | noir: edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf then start it. Try browsing to http://localhost/ |
| 07:42.41 | ejay69 | I have been configuring a Samba+LDAP+PDC for months.... I think i got it right... my problem is the administration... I really wanted to install Samba Console |
| 07:42.44 | spdf | Zoo, The WXGA is 1280x800, which if I'm not mistaken needs a weird modeline to work.. or not.. |
| 07:42.51 | Zoo | lol mhall, and kevix |
| 07:42.53 | noir | yeah that works |
| 07:42.58 | noir | but with a dynamic IP |
| 07:43.02 | noir | it wont |
| 07:43.03 | mhall | spdf: let me see if i can cobble this together |
| 07:43.06 | Zoo | k |
| 07:43.16 | scruffy | noir: dyndns.org (i think) |
| 07:43.18 | Zoo | I got this 1 |
| 07:43.26 | ejay69 | Tried compiling Idealx IMC from the source but it wont.... |
| 07:43.40 | kevix | xelam: I use mutt! |
| 07:43.43 | mhall | Zoo: try this modeline |
| 07:43.46 | mhall | Zoo: Modeline "1280x800_60.00" 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828" -hsync -vsync |
| 07:43.46 | xelam | I hate mutt |
| 07:43.47 | xelam | :\ |
| 07:43.50 | noir | yes |
| 07:43.53 | noir | but |
| 07:43.55 | Zoo | 15.4 WXGA Acer CrystalBrite color TFT LCD , 1280 x 800 resolution 16.7 million colors |
| 07:43.57 | ejay69 | is someone working on a debian package for samba console by idealx? |
| 07:43.59 | bonz | kevix: same |
| 07:44.00 | Zoo | 1 sec lol |
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| 07:44.07 | noir | it wont work |
| 07:44.11 | bonz | much better then pine |
| 07:44.17 | shale | thanks |
| 07:44.29 | bonz | noir: give it more money :) |
| 07:44.32 | noir | or i dont understan how it work, maybe the last is the one |
| 07:44.33 | Zoo | thank you so much friends |
| 07:44.37 | kevix | ejay69: you can make a RFP (request for package) in the BTS (bug tracking system)! |
| 07:44.45 | noir | for what? |
| 07:44.47 | Gnea | Zoo: if you boot up kanotix, can you get it to go to 1280x800? if so, you could get the modelines out of the X config file it writes there and re-apply it |
| 07:44.47 | mhall | Zoo: HorizSync 30-90 |
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| 07:44.56 | scruffy | noir: what won't work? |
| 07:45.05 | mhall | Zoo: VertRefresh 60 |
| 07:45.06 | ejay69 | if i request how long would that take? |
| 07:45.12 | Zoo | I'll be back, but I won't drive the car through the window.. like Arnold.. I got to piss |
| 07:45.19 | noir | the web address, i mean, no one outside can see it |
| 07:45.19 | bonz | scruffy: the politicians of the planet :) |
| 07:45.22 | noir | just me |
| 07:45.32 | Zoo | I"m going to load ubcd |
| 07:45.46 | kevix | ejay69: Debian is volunteer organization! maybe 1 month, maybe 1 year! |
| 07:45.49 | Zoo | Ultimate Boot CD has been my friend for over a year now.. it knows more than some techs know lmfao |
| 07:46.00 | bonz | noir: server definitely functioning? |
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| 07:46.03 | Gnea | ejay69: until someone who knows the answer answers. |
| 07:46.04 | scruffy | noir, bonz: I'm lost, which may or may not be desirable! :) |
| 07:46.19 | bonz | not just from cache in your local browser? |
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| 07:46.37 | noir | looks like, at least that what it says |
| 07:46.43 | noir | want the url? |
| 07:46.49 | ejay69 | has anyone here have any experienced installing it on sarge? |
| 07:46.50 | Zoo | I swera I am going get ultimate IT software for mainboard diagnostics way better than UBCD |
| 07:47.33 | scruffy | bonz: heheh |
| 07:47.37 | bonz | Zoo: my diagnostic tool is a 10lb sledgehammer :) |
| 07:47.48 | Zoo | lmfao |
| 07:47.56 | bonz | I know exactly whats wrong with it after diagnosing with that :) |
| 07:47.57 | Zoo | yeah. and I got a plasma welding cutting torch lmfao |
| 07:48.07 | noir | umm how do i send private msg? |
| 07:48.08 | Zoo | -> http://www.lavalys.com/ |
| 07:48.13 | johnny_nubie | ok - so I've got eth0 setup on DHCP and I i've got eth1 as yet untouched - i'd like to make it share that connection to another single device. |
| 07:48.14 | scruffy | noir: maybe cableonline.com.mx is restricting your ports, not sure. If you have DSL or cable, that device might be blocking the connection. |
| 07:48.16 | Zoo | 8-) |
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| 07:48.38 | noir | wow, how can you see my ISP? |
| 07:48.39 | Zoo | lol bonz.. I needed a laugh. be back.. have to take a leak |
| 07:48.42 | kevix | ejay69: get the software, try to install it, if you get errors, use debian-user mailing list or maybe ask here with specific errors |
| 07:48.48 | scruffy | noir: whois |
| 07:48.55 | noir | jajaja, cool |
| 07:49.04 | Zoo | most people just do a whois noir. or if you know how to use and configure a proxy .. you can be anonymous to an extent |
| 07:49.12 | mhall | bonz: Big 5 is having a sale on machetes for 6 bux |
| 07:49.19 | Zoo | with nmaps they can even tell which operating system you are on |
| 07:49.27 | mhall | bonz: being a seriously rednecked sonofabitch i'm headed their tomorrow to get one PDQ |
| 07:49.34 | noir | well, the suposed url is noirji.dyndns.org |
| 07:49.35 | mhall | bonz: there* |
| 07:49.36 | bonz | dunno what a big 5 is sorry so that comment is wasted on me |
| 07:49.36 | Zoo | heck. if they are even good enough. they can take screenshots of your screen |
| 07:49.41 | noir | but just work on my machine |
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| 07:49.53 | kevix | johnny_nubie: apt-cache show dnsmasq |
| 07:49.55 | Zoo | acespy etc noir |
| 07:50.01 | noir | whois noir |
| 07:50.05 | Zoo | hahaha |
| 07:50.07 | spdf | noir, /whois noir |
| 07:50.10 | akusarujin | anyone know if tar has a switch for extracting specific directories from within a tarball, instead of extracting everything? |
| 07:50.17 | scruffy | noir: 77.207.79.200 != 10.138.174.90 |
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| 07:50.24 | noir | ups |
| 07:50.26 | Zoo | be surprised what people can do.. most just curious. super hackers into money accounts and other things noir |
| 07:50.28 | Guerin | akusarujin: it does. man tar. |
| 07:50.46 | scruffy | noir: err.. make that, 200.79.207.77 |
| 07:50.50 | Zoo | pretty much thats all they can see is the ISP. not your address where you live |
| 07:50.54 | kikinovak | Hi. I'm an ex-Slacker recently converted to Debian (server) and Ubuntu (desktop). Currently setting up a printer server, and things in /etc/udev aren't where I'm accustomed to them. Q: what's the orthodox way to setup new udev rules? With Slack, I just renamed udev.rules to z-udev.rules, then edited a-udev.rules. But here, there are many symlinks I don't know what to do with. |
| 07:50.55 | noir | dam!! i dont know if feel safe or atacked :P |
| 07:51.01 | bonz | akusarujin: you could browse the tar with something like mc & just extract what you want that way |
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| 07:51.35 | Zoo | you can changed your ISP internet protocols all the time. and obtain new ranges.. get an IDS . that would be nice. or just use a router. or set up a debian gateway.. which I will do when I get on my feet |
| 07:51.35 | scruffy | noir: your dyndns.org should probably be 200.79.207.77 instead of 10.138.174.90 |
| 07:51.45 | bonz | installing mc would drag in ncurses, etc but |
| 07:51.49 | noir | ok let see that before i restart |
| 07:51.49 | scruffy | noir: 10.138.174.90 is a LAN address |
| 07:51.56 | bonz | hehe |
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| 07:52.09 | Zoo | you can even take a standard modem. and turn it into a router basically.. but not the full features of a router |
| 07:52.34 | Zoo | yep scruffy.. Robert Morris.. have those. they host there own DHCP |
| 07:52.41 | noir | ok what about now? |
| 07:52.48 | mhall | Zoo: how the fuck do you type so insanely fast about so many unrelated topics |
| 07:52.52 | Guerin | except that from an ip address you can figure out where someone is |
| 07:52.56 | Zoo | hee |
| 07:53.00 | scruffy | noir: if you're on a big lan, that might not be possible, not sure. if you own 10., then you'll need NAT |
| 07:53.04 | mhall | Zoo: and on top of that how do you have so much insanely positive pro-linux energy |
| 07:53.10 | Zoo | or just send them a picture of there house with World Wind :) |
| 07:53.11 | bonz | indeed using 10. address for global addressing is unlikely too function |
| 07:53.13 | noir | umm |
| 07:53.18 | mhall | Zoo: i've used it's since 1998 and i'm not even close to that hardcore |
| 07:53.26 | noir | i got 3 computers |
| 07:53.37 | Zoo | its just what your into |
| 07:53.37 | noir | just two online almost all day |
| 07:53.42 | kevix | mhall: jolt cola! |
| 07:53.49 | Zoo | reading is power. and it just pays off |
| 07:54.03 | Zoo | I don't chat much. but wanted to meet some people that use debian |
| 07:54.15 | Zoo | k.. I got ubcd in. I am going get more specs |
| 07:54.31 | kevix | Zoo: if you want more debian, read planet.debian.org |
| 07:54.31 | noir | umm |
| 07:54.32 | scruffy | noir: nope, whatever is at that IP is dropping packets. Maybe your cable "modem"? |
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| 07:54.44 | mhall | kevix: no man i drink that shit |
| 07:54.46 | Zoo | thanks kevix |
| 07:54.47 | noir | i coud be |
| 07:54.51 | mhall | kevix: it's good but not like Zoo |
| 07:55.05 | kevix | mhall: crack! |
| 07:55.05 | Zoo | I plan to even take TEchSmith. and show people how to use open source. and other things |
| 07:55.11 | noir | so i need to call my ISP and tell what i want with the server? |
| 07:55.11 | mhall | kevix: possibly |
| 07:55.17 | Zoo | even to install an OS. and configure it for various machines |
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| 07:55.27 | noir | hey, how do i reg my nick |
| 07:55.29 | noir | ?? |
| 07:55.29 | akusarujin | bonz: not on a server |
| 07:55.30 | Zoo | mhall how come the slams |
| 07:55.34 | scruffy | noir: if you can connect to your cable modem, you'll need to have it forward requests for port 80 to 10.138.174.90 |
| 07:55.41 | mhall | Zoo: no i didn't mean it as an insult |
| 07:55.50 | Zoo | k |
| 07:55.51 | mhall | Zoo: i was just impressed with your enthusiasm |
| 07:55.52 | Zoo | tyvm |
| 07:55.52 | kevix | Zoo: I'd say just taken aback! |
| 07:55.59 | Zoo | lol |
| 07:56.10 | noir | that means my cable modem is blocking the way? |
| 07:56.11 | scruffy | noir: msg nickserv about it |
| 07:56.11 | mhall | Zoo: and i said that there's no way anything i ever ate or drank could get me that pumped up |
| 07:56.16 | mhall | Zoo: that's all :-) |
| 07:56.16 | akusarujin | Guerin: okay, well, i guess the info page is more useful, according to the man page.. so i'll see if i can get some more detailed information from it. thanks anyway... |
| 07:56.16 | Zoo | forgive me... I was working on stepmoms pc. and they goin through divorce :| |
| 07:56.35 | mhall | Zoo: dude that sucks |
| 07:56.47 | Zoo | yep |
| 07:56.51 | Zoo | and thing is |
| 07:57.04 | kevix | Zoo: sublimation is ok. we all deal in our own way. |
| 07:57.10 | Zoo | My real mom and dad.. I had to go through that when I was a kid, and now my little brother came up to me cryin |
| 07:57.24 | Zoo | getting into the open source and doing things and talkin gets my mind of things |
| 07:57.51 | Zoo | and pretty much mhall, if I wanted to implecate a dictation program into chatting clients. it wouldn't be all the hard m8 |
| 07:58.01 | Zoo | that* |
| 07:58.02 | bonz | noir: /msg nickserv help |
| 07:58.06 | mhall | Zoo: lol they couldn't keep up with you |
| 07:58.09 | mhall | Zoo: ;-) |
| 07:58.12 | Zoo | lol |
| 07:58.15 | Zoo | took a class |
| 07:58.24 | noir | k, my nick is already reged ;( |
| 07:58.28 | Zoo | it kind of pays off, thats why I know I should master the console and line commands |
| 07:58.30 | noir | too bad for me |
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| 07:58.37 | noir | no prob |
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| 07:58.42 | noir | ill be back |
| 07:58.42 | mhall | Zoo: you should take a freestyle rap class |
| 07:58.44 | Zoo | and be thus.. power user. and I luv GUI |
| 07:58.49 | noir | restart time |
| 07:58.53 | mhall | noir: if it goes unused for a month you can get it back |
| 07:58.57 | Zoo | I am very a multi task person mhall |
| 07:59.01 | surfdue | hello |
| 07:59.02 | noir | woho!!!!! |
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| 07:59.16 | noir | ill be waiting th moment >) |
| 07:59.20 | Zoo | dang I didnt' even go take a leak yet. brb |
| 07:59.25 | scruffy | noir: may all your reboots be rebooty |
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| 07:59.32 | spdf | Zoo, best get on that. Don't want to explode. |
| 07:59.32 | surfdue | the dependcie libwxgtk2.5.3-python says there is no instalation canadate, maybe i need a new source, what should would you suggest that may have this? |
| 07:59.34 | mhall | oh my god i'm laughing so hard right now |
| 07:59.38 | noir | ouh, that hurts |
| 07:59.42 | noir | i go then |
| 08:00.35 | kevix | Zoo: just grab the nearest soda can! |
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| 08:01.10 | kevix | surfdue: what are you installing/compiling ? |
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| 08:01.53 | surfdue | actually i am making a package for circe irc client, but they need wxpython 2.6 but only deb packages go up to 2.5.3 |
| 08:01.59 | surfdue | so i need atleast 2.5.3 |
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| 08:02.41 | Zoo | ahh.. feel better now.. :) |
| 08:02.47 | Guerin | surfdue: why are you packaging new software if you haven't the faintest idea how the debian package management structure works? |
| 08:02.50 | kevix | surfdue: you may want to get an rpm and use alien. not sure but it MAY work. |
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| 08:03.06 | surfdue | nah |
| 08:03.06 | surfdue | i do |
| 08:03.12 | surfdue | guerin i need a new mirror |
| 08:03.13 | Guerin | surfdue: no, you don't. |
| 08:03.15 | noir | ummm well |
| 08:03.17 | surfdue | "source" |
| 08:03.23 | Guerin | surfdue: what branch of debian are you running? |
| 08:03.25 | surfdue | aparently i do dont tell me what i can and cant do. |
| 08:03.29 | noir | no boot log anyway :( |
| 08:03.31 | surfdue | sarge? |
| 08:03.32 | Zoo | lol |
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| 08:03.40 | Zoo | surfdue.. its going be all good m8 :) |
| 08:03.47 | Guerin | surfdue: i mean, you don't have the faintest idea how the debian package management structure works |
| 08:03.47 | noir | any way |
| 08:03.50 | surfdue | ya |
| 08:03.59 | surfdue | whatever |
| 08:04.00 | Guerin | surfdue: this was demonstrated to me earlier today |
| 08:04.01 | noir | i have to go, c u around |
| 08:04.07 | surfdue | tahts nice |
| 08:04.10 | Zoo | lol |
| 08:04.11 | Guerin | surfdue: etch and sid have more updated packages |
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| 08:04.19 | surfdue | nvm im not asking #debian questions anymore |
| 08:04.25 | Guerin | !tell surfdue about search |
| 08:04.30 | surfdue | some people think they are god. |
| 08:04.32 | Zoo | I am going buy me a debian shirt.. or get my own made as soon as the money is right |
| 08:04.42 | Zoo | 8-) |
| 08:04.43 | surfdue | meaning ? |
| 08:04.49 | Zoo | I hope I am not linux geak yet lol |
| 08:04.50 | surfdue | guerin what do you suggest i do to fix this? |
| 08:04.57 | Zoo | sue me for my ambitions :D |
| 08:05.08 | Guerin | surfdue: seek, and ye shall find - see what's in testing |
| 08:05.14 | Zoo | k.. I got UBCD running. and I running aida now |
| 08:05.17 | johnny_nubie_ | kevix : I get no such command filename when i run apt-cache |
| 08:05.24 | kevix | Guerin: is he asking about the Common Lisp irc client?(thats in debian) or something else? |
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| 08:05.30 | mhall | what is the bx command to save the channel / window buffer |
| 08:05.40 | Zoo | want me go through CPU TYpe Gnea, kevix, spdf, mhall, ? |
| 08:05.41 | Guerin | kevix: he seems to think it's in python |
| 08:05.49 | Gnea | mhall: screw that, just take a screenshot ;) |
| 08:05.54 | Zoo | hee |
| 08:06.01 | Zoo | yep that always works Gnea |
| 08:06.07 | Zoo | or TechSmith :D |
| 08:06.12 | surfdue | its there |
| 08:06.13 | Zoo | but that would take too long :) |
| 08:06.15 | surfdue | what? |
| 08:06.19 | surfdue | what do i need ot do.. |
| 08:06.20 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 08:06.21 | Phated | surfdue: DO not take His name in vain. |
| 08:06.23 | Zoo | hee |
| 08:06.32 | Zoo | k so ready Gnea |
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| 08:06.44 | Gnea | Zoo: got it booting? |
| 08:06.55 | Zoo | using ubcd first. to get more specs on my machine |
| 08:06.59 | surfdue | Package libwxgtk2.5.3-python is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 08:07.00 | surfdue | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 08:07.00 | surfdue | is only available from another source |
| 08:07.04 | Zoo | Winternals doesn't do crap for specs :) |
| 08:07.26 | Gnea | Zoo: btw, and this might help - at the boot: prompt, type linux26 |
| 08:07.30 | Zoo | but lmao @ me changing the pxe passwords at my schoool lol |
| 08:07.32 | Guerin | surfdue: that means that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source |
| 08:07.49 | Zoo | Gnea want me go over specs m8 |
| 08:07.56 | Guerin | !tw@ |
| 08:07.56 | dpkg | tw@ is probably ( What we think of people who use 'gr8' and other such nonsense words. ) |
| 08:07.58 | kevix | johnny_nubie_: what command? what where you doing? |
| 08:08.01 | Zoo | do you guys allow color fonts? |
| 08:08.04 | surfdue | what sources do i use to get unstable |
| 08:08.08 | Gnea | Zoo: we already have :) |
| 08:08.09 | Phated | Zoo: No. |
| 08:08.10 | Guerin | surfdue: you don't |
| 08:08.12 | Zoo | k |
| 08:08.16 | surfdue | huh? |
| 08:08.24 | surfdue | i nned unstable in order to get python-wxgtk2.6 |
| 08:08.26 | johnny_nubie_ | kevix: sorry, I was wanting to bridge my eth1 to my eth0 |
| 08:08.26 | Guerin | surfdue: if you want testing, ask dpkg about sarge->etch |
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| 08:08.35 | scarynetworkguy | surfdue: Yeah, many of us were *very* offended. |
| 08:08.40 | surfdue | !sarge->etch |
| 08:08.46 | surfdue | what? |
| 08:08.47 | kevix | surfdue: are you complining CL-irc ? |
| 08:08.49 | Gnea | Zoo: sorry, i was afk for awhile, i missed anything in your rants heh |
| 08:08.49 | Guerin | surfdue: unstable is only for developers, bughunters and lunatics |
| 08:08.51 | surfdue | are you guys crazy? |
| 08:08.51 | surfdue | lol |
| 08:08.54 | Guerin | dpkg, sarge->etch |
| 08:08.55 | dpkg | Sarge too old for you already? Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'testing', and replace the security.debian.org line by a testing security line (ask me about testing security). Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then subscribe to d-d-a (/msg dpkg d-d-a) or I will come and pour hot grits down your pants. |
| 08:08.55 | surfdue | no |
| 08:09.03 | Guerin | surfdue: most of us, yeah. |
| 08:09.12 | noir | umm, anyone knows where can i find info about soundcard configurations? |
| 08:09.13 | surfdue | :P |
| 08:09.16 | surfdue | im kidding |
| 08:09.21 | Gnea | surfdue: crazy? |
| 08:09.22 | surfdue | im a developer. |
| 08:09.23 | surfdue | :) |
| 08:09.27 | Guerin | noir: /msg dpkg alsa for morons |
| 08:09.32 | Gokee2 | Anyone know a good proxie checker in the apt-get tree? |
| 08:09.35 | Zoo | yep I like being me, and open minded. good thing we all not robots. thats what make the world different :) |
| 08:09.47 | Zoo | ;) |
| 08:09.52 | sep | johnny_nubie_, install bridge-utils package. read the docs in that package , basicaly you need to move your ip config from eth0 to br0 in interfaces file and add a line that say bridge_ports all |
| 08:09.58 | Phated | surfdue: You DO NOT joke about His name. |
| 08:09.59 | Guerin | surfdue: you're incapable of fixing rudimentary problems with the debian packaging system. you're not qualified to run unstable. |
| 08:10.05 | Zoo | debian make me think with more ambition too.. its the inspiration I swear |
| 08:10.07 | johnny_nubie_ | sep - that's brilliant |
| 08:10.08 | kevix | johnny_nubie_: apt-cache show ipmasq |
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| 08:10.18 | surfdue | phated? |
| 08:10.19 | surfdue | what? |
| 08:10.20 | johnny_nubie_ | kevix - no such command |
| 08:10.36 | Zoo | thanks Phated for the tips |
| 08:10.56 | Phated | Eh? |
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| 08:10.59 | Guerin | surfdue: if you want to run it, fine; figure out how to upgrade by yourself. By sid isn't supported in here unless you're able to do the first 90% of thw work yourself. |
| 08:11.15 | Zoo | I don't live in a cold room. I live in a loft and it is not insulated.. and I have so much desire to master using debian.. people sure are lucky to have nice place |
| 08:11.20 | SlayerXP | morning kids, kidettes and kidettas |
| 08:11.21 | Zoo | I live a cold room I mean |
| 08:11.24 | Phated | SlayerXP! |
| 08:11.34 | Zoo | in* |
| 08:11.36 | Guerin | SlayerXP knows about coldness |
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| 08:11.39 | Zoo | morning |
| 08:11.47 | Phated | *schlick* |
| 08:11.49 | Zoo | but I'm proud to be alive. and proud to have support |
| 08:11.56 | Zoo | hey Gnea |
| 08:12.07 | Zoo | Video Adapter = VESA compatible |
| 08:12.27 | surfdue | wwho said i was upgrading |
| 08:12.27 | Zoo | Display = SVGA , SVGA VESA Supported, SGA VESA VErsion 3.00 |
| 08:12.29 | surfdue | i jsut have to wait |
| 08:12.32 | surfdue | i love debian :0 |
| 08:12.33 | surfdue | :) |
| 08:12.40 | kevix | Zoo: Debian support is worth ever penny! |
| 08:12.46 | surfdue | Phated, im sorry i offended you, but for what reason did i? |
| 08:12.47 | Zoo | sound I don't have problem with.. going through more |
| 08:12.57 | SlayerXP | debian is just _so_ gay, you should all use kubunto instead. |
| 08:12.58 | Zoo | yep kevix is is |
| 08:13.00 | Zoo | it is |
| 08:13.12 | Zoo | SlayerXP already have been there |
| 08:13.14 | Guerin | SlayerXP: what about debian pure? |
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| 08:13.24 | Guerin | SlayerXP: debianpure.org |
| 08:13.24 | surfdue | Zoo, australian mate? |
| 08:13.27 | Gnea | surfdue: you can not talk to me all you like, that is fine. just know that you came here looking for help and have assumed much that is not tolerable here. |
| 08:13.31 | Zoo | been there with kubuntu live, and kubuntu install |
| 08:13.35 | Phated | surfdue: I would have you know that some of us here respect His name, and do not invoke it in vain. |
| 08:13.42 | Zoo | aka ubuntu in KDE STyle |
| 08:13.49 | surfdue | Phated, who? |
| 08:13.50 | Guerin | SlayerXP: debianpure.com, sorreh |
| 08:13.55 | surfdue | Phated, Guerin ? |
| 08:14.05 | Gnea | Phated: werd. |
| 08:14.13 | Zoo | the thing is. some people just have the strong desire to be more open than any distrobution customly designed off of debian base linux systems |
| 08:14.14 | kevix | johnny_nubie_: 'apt-cache' is in the apt package, you MUST have it! |
| 08:14.40 | Zoo | thats why I have finally made my way to this room. even though I have so many linux and unix books and other books Makes me spin |
| 08:14.40 | johnny_nubie_ | it doesnt like it |
| 08:14.52 | Zoo | Gnea |
| 08:14.53 | Guerin | Zoo: if you really care about free software, you should use e-ututo |
| 08:14.59 | Zoo | AC ' 97 Intel |
| 08:15.05 | Zoo | I plan to program as well Guerin |
| 08:15.15 | Gnea | Zoo: yes? |
| 08:15.20 | kevix | Zoo: checkout: debiansystem.info ! |
| 08:15.28 | SlayerXP | Guerin: interesting. debian for idiots that's, well, debian :) |
| 08:15.30 | Zoo | I offer alot of support to people .and I low level format hard drives alot. and put all different types of systems on them even dual booting environments and OS Selectors |
| 08:15.32 | Guerin | Zoo: not sure what that has to do with the price of bananas on Monkey Island |
| 08:15.33 | johnny_nubie_ | kevix - it started working after I installed bridge-uitls |
| 08:15.39 | Guerin | SlayerXP: or so they claim |
| 08:15.48 | Zoo | and also Vmware etc |
| 08:15.48 | kevix | Zoo: then check out the debian mentor site! |
| 08:15.49 | Phated | Zoo: Point? |
| 08:15.52 | spdf | Guerin, Hahaha |
| 08:15.57 | Zoo | no point :) |
| 08:15.59 | kevix | johnny_nubie_: cool! |
| 08:16.04 | johnny_nubie_ | anyone - is there a way to / ignore others in here ? |
| 08:16.09 | Gnea | Zoo: yes, that's nice, so are you installing that laptop? :) |
| 08:16.16 | Zoo | trying too Gnea |
| 08:16.21 | Gnea | johnny_nubie_: /ignore <someone> all |
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| 08:16.24 | SlayerXP | johnny_nubie_: yes, there is. |
| 08:16.25 | Zoo | yep.. you can easilly using trillian. or kopete or gaim |
| 08:16.26 | Guerin | Zoo: oh ... so you don't care about free software. |
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| 08:16.47 | kevix | johnny_nubie_: yes. it depends on your irc client. |
| 08:16.51 | johnny_nubie_ | oh wow |
| 08:16.52 | Zoo | or if you know some network commands. you can block the communication between ip's etc |
| 08:16.52 | SlayerXP | i need a shave |
| 08:17.02 | Phated | SlayerXP: Gogogo! |
| 08:17.09 | Zoo | I can make it so half the room don't see me chattin :) |
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| 08:17.23 | Phated | EEEK |
| 08:17.26 | Guerin | Zoo: no, you can't |
| 08:17.26 | SlayerXP | Phated: still young enough to be my daughter? |
| 08:17.27 | Zoo | want to see johnny lol |
| 08:17.32 | Phated | SlayerXP: Not yet 18. |
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| 08:17.40 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net] by debhelper |
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| 08:17.46 | surfdue | http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/debian.jpg |
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| 08:17.48 | SlayerXP | I get to be 32 thias year |
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| 08:17.56 | bonz | Zoo: If I chop your fingers off none of the room will see you chattin :) |
| 08:17.59 | SlayerXP | 32 on the outside, 12.5 on the inside |
| 08:18.05 | Phated | Heh. |
| 08:18.13 | Zoo | done |
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| 08:18.15 | surfdue | phated: here is your new screensaver image ;) http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/debian.jpg |
| 08:18.19 | Zoo | blocked 2. now let me see if you can guess who |
| 08:18.31 | jm_ | dpkg and ravenbird? |
| 08:18.31 | dpkg | it has been said that ravenbird is so cool |
| 08:18.41 | Gnea | !ops surfdue is an offensive troll |
| 08:18.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: surfdue is an offensive troll |
| 08:18.45 | Guerin | Zoo: block me |
| 08:18.46 | Zoo | neh, this is whats awesome |
| 08:18.54 | SlayerXP | i took my bmw out for a spin this morning. |
| 08:19.00 | Guerin | Zoo: go on. make it so I can't see what you're saying. |
| 08:19.08 | SlayerXP | I mean spin in the "unexpected black ice" sense of the word |
| 08:19.08 | Phated | surfdue: Not bad - for a beginner. |
| 08:19.11 | Zoo | done |
| 08:19.11 | surfdue | !ops gnea is annoying |
| 08:19.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: gnea is annoying |
| 08:19.22 | Guerin | Zoo: done? |
| 08:19.36 | Zoo | anways Gnea |
| 08:19.41 | widrone | !bootstrap |
| 08:19.42 | dpkg | methinks bootstrap is the method of booting an OS, ask about ybin, yaboot, Apple_Bootstrap, quik, lilo, silo, or grub. |
| 08:19.43 | Zoo | back to the nice room I thought I was once in :) |
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| 08:19.56 | Phated | surfdue: But realise this: #d has a culture. You, however, seem not to be part of it. |
| 08:20.02 | Guerin | SlayerXP: eep. |
| 08:20.04 | spdf | Reminds me of when Snufallufagus would block his eyes on Sesame Street and think he was invisible.. |
| 08:20.07 | Zoo | its nice when you control your computing environment. such a nice thing ;) |
| 08:20.09 | Guerin | SlayerXP: i hate that kind of spin. |
| 08:20.15 | surfdue | phated: yes you are correct i dont warship the devil |
| 08:20.18 | bonz | Zoo: where was this? |
| 08:20.20 | surfdue | .. |
| 08:20.22 | surfdue | ;) |
| 08:20.25 | Zoo | well its nice, when it just makes a nice ignoring tool for ya |
| 08:20.30 | SlayerXP | Guerin: i have had sufficient practice for it not to be too much of a problem |
| 08:20.32 | surfdue | hey i love debian |
| 08:20.36 | surfdue | but some people.. |
| 08:20.38 | Zoo | because I don't see thou, of whom I blockd |
| 08:20.39 | surfdue | zoo is fine |
| 08:20.43 | surfdue | slayer is fine. |
| 08:20.43 | Zoo | blocked |
| 08:20.48 | surfdue | even guerin is fine |
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| 08:20.52 | Gnea | surfdue: judge and be judged. |
| 08:20.54 | surfdue | but phated? hello? reality |
| 08:20.58 | SlayerXP | debian is gayer than a troop of howler monkies on nitrous oxide |
| 08:21.01 | clint- | thats my name |
| 08:21.04 | surfdue | rofl |
| 08:21.05 | Guerin | Zoo: but you said you were going to make ME not be able to see YOU. |
| 08:21.08 | Gnea | yeah, debian sucks |
| 08:21.11 | johnny_nubie_ | sep : where are those bridge-utils docs going to be? |
| 08:21.11 | clint- | I usually use it |
| 08:21.42 | SlayerXP | wonder if I've caught up on my troll quota yet... |
| 08:21.45 | Phated | surfdue: Text. On a screen. OPINION. You're offended? Deal. |
| 08:21.45 | Guerin | SlayerXP: BMMWs tend to handle better than FWD Kias, too |
| 08:21.48 | Gnea | surfdue: reality is not something you can comprehend. |
| 08:21.52 | clint- | thing is. I was on filetopia for the longest. but I got tired of that and they got tired of me. really I don't chat. but hey. just thinkin the world of communication interpersonal communiation had changed.. I guess I'm wrong about that perception huh gnea |
| 08:22.10 | Phated | Happybirthdaymhall! |
| 08:22.14 | clint- | etc |
| 08:22.16 | Gnea | mhall: w00t! |
| 08:22.32 | Gnea | mhall: don't forget your fries and milkshake ;) |
| 08:22.35 | SlayerXP | Guerin: i was quite suprised at just how different driving a bmw is to driving most other cars, and not just because of the rwd |
| 08:22.37 | sep | johnny_nubie_, /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils |
| 08:22.44 | johnny_nubie_ | sep - thanks |
| 08:22.44 | clint- | sometimes I speak too much about things that are so irrelevant.. I appologize Gnea |
| 08:22.53 | sep | johnny_nubie_, all packages place dcs in /usr/share/doc |
| 08:22.54 | kevix | johnny_nubie_: all docs are in /usr/share/doc/ (more or less) |
| 08:22.54 | surfdue | gnea: and you can comprehend reality |
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| 08:23.11 | mrverbose | hi |
| 08:23.15 | surfdue | gnea: heh your reality is a cheesburger sitting on the top of a fence cooking in the sun |
| 08:23.16 | mhall | surfdue: dude you are pretty fucked up yourself |
| 08:23.17 | surfdue | :P |
| 08:23.18 | johnny_nubie_ | kevix - NICE |
| 08:23.23 | surfdue | rofl |
| 08:23.25 | clint- | music time. and I think I am going through all my linux systems away and debian netinst away and just buy that book |
| 08:23.32 | Guerin | SlayerXP: I've never been allowed to drive one |
| 08:23.43 | Gnea | surfdue: oh that's a good one |
| 08:23.47 | surfdue | yep |
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| 08:23.49 | surfdue | :) |
| 08:23.50 | bonz | reality is way over rated |
| 08:23.51 | clint- | and whats funny is.. I seen my destiny in my own name. now isn't that hillarious |
| 08:23.55 | mrverbose | i am planning to install debian, i need current software like openoffice 2.0 on a desktop system, which branch would you recommend, unstable or testing? |
| 08:23.58 | mhall | i didn't mean it was today |
| 08:24.02 | Gnea | about as good as the turd that fell out of my anal cavity earlier :) |
| 08:24.03 | mhall | i meant in a few weeks |
| 08:24.06 | Guerin | mrverbose: testing |
| 08:24.07 | SlayerXP | Guerin: well, you're about 13 years old, so that's no surprising :) |
| 08:24.07 | mhall | i should have been more clean |
| 08:24.09 | surfdue | heh ok then i guess we will jsut go with the fork of debian |
| 08:24.11 | clint- | I seen just a couple letters of the 1 of the ultimate programmers who made linux possible |
| 08:24.12 | surfdue | .. |
| 08:24.19 | Guerin | SlayerXP: you're only 12.5! |
| 08:24.23 | Gnea | surfdue: what's this 'we' crap? |
| 08:24.26 | mhall | clint-: no it was funny |
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| 08:24.33 | clint- | lin |
| 08:24.39 | Guerin | mrverbose: OO.o 2.0 isn't even released yet, so don't be surprised it's not in testing yet. |
| 08:24.46 | jm_ | Guerin: sure it is |
| 08:24.48 | Guerin | mrverbose: but it will be, eventually. |
| 08:24.50 | mrverbose | Guerin: it is |
| 08:24.50 | clint- | Gnea.. I think I will get that on my own bud |
| 08:24.51 | dli | ntp problem, "Server dropped: strata too high server" |
| 08:24.54 | Guerin | since when? |
| 08:24.57 | Gnea | mrverbose: have you used sarge very long? |
| 08:24.59 | Guerin | it thought it was still rc3? |
| 08:25.00 | jm_ | since last week |
| 08:25.10 | Guerin | holy shit |
| 08:25.12 | Guerin | how about that |
| 08:25.13 | Gnea | clint-: pardon? |
| 08:25.19 | mrverbose | Gnea: some time ago i used sarge (when it still was testing) |
| 08:25.33 | jm_ | you can get it via torrent, but apparently that .tar.gz file is full of RPM-s |
| 08:25.53 | clint- | I pulled myself away from chat rooms Gnea |
| 08:25.56 | Gnea | mrverbose: ah ok - you might want to see if there's a backport |
| 08:25.58 | Gnea | !backports |
| 08:25.58 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 08:26.02 | mhall | clint-: dude, chill out, everybody thinks you are hilarious and we want to help you with debian |
| 08:26.11 | mrverbose | Guerin: i do not need openoffice 2.0 now, but i'd rather not like to wait for years and it to be included into whatever branch i use. |
| 08:26.14 | clint- | neh |
| 08:26.15 | mhall | clint-: laptops are just tricky so it will take a week or two to get it right |
| 08:26.17 | Guerin | mhall: s/hilarious/a raving fucktard/ |
| 08:26.18 | Gnea | clint-: that's cool, at least you excercised some self-control |
| 08:26.27 | mrverbose | thats why i asked |
| 08:26.28 | mhall | Guerin: dude give him a break |
| 08:26.35 | bonz | tar file full of rpm's, sounds about as useful as mamary gland delivery devices on male bovines |
| 08:26.40 | mhall | Guerin: he's polite and really cares about the os and getting help |
| 08:26.51 | dli | mhall, which part of laptop? PCMCIA? |
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| 08:26.54 | kevix | mrverbose: what's wrong with OO.org 1.9? 2.0 will not be here for a while. java wierdness! |
| 08:26.55 | mhall | Guerin: wouldn't you rather have positive users that wnat to learn and share |
| 08:26.56 | Guerin | mrverbose: it'll find its way into testing soon enough. it's been under heavy development by the debian porters for months now, in experimental. |
| 08:27.01 | sep | dli, ntpdate -d ipofserver to see why |
| 08:27.08 | Subvertir | Anyone know where I can find a tutorial on setting up a printer? |
| 08:27.14 | Guerin | mhall: i'm not convinced he's not a troll |
| 08:27.16 | Gnea | clint-: what? |
| 08:27.21 | Guerin | mhall: but hell, what do I know |
| 08:27.33 | dli | sep, oh, googled, turned I have to be patient |
| 08:27.33 | mhall | Guerin: dude, no troll could do what he can do |
| 08:27.38 | Guerin | mhall: ? |
| 08:27.49 | Subvertir | timecop is my favorite troll ever |
| 08:27.50 | mhall | Guerin: i've been typing since i was 5 and i'm between 21 and 22 and i can't do what he can |
| 08:27.59 | Guerin | mhall: in my experience, trolls can do most anything. |
| 08:28.05 | clint- | thats what i wish I couldn't do |
| 08:28.13 | mhall | Guerin: no he couldn't be |
| 08:28.18 | spdf | Its magic. Harry Potter magic. |
| 08:28.20 | mhall | Guerin: too friendly and positive |
| 08:28.20 | clint- | I sometimes wish why I was even in this life m8 |
| 08:28.32 | sep | dli, aye. but if the difference between you and the ntp server is too high it might never sync. in those cases it's better to set date manualy first with ntpdate then start stpd |
| 08:28.33 | dli | sep, I suspected a problem, kept changing ntp.conf and restart ntp-server |
| 08:28.33 | Guerin | mhall: heh. Ok. Right. |
| 08:28.35 | jm_ | anyone remembers bfinn trolling here? :) |
| 08:28.58 | Subvertir | I don't even have to troll here, I can just be myself and everyone starts foaming at the mouth |
| 08:29.02 | mhall | jm_: oh shit |
| 08:29.11 | mhall | jm_: i think he's been around since 1998/1999 |
| 08:29.15 | kevix | Subvertir: google on 'debian cups' or 'debian yourprinter' |
| 08:29.19 | clint- | I would smoke me a bowl, but I got anxiety from when I was sick, and did a couple hitters, and I found that my heart was beating at 180 times a minute |
| 08:29.19 | jm_ | mhall: yup, very old |
| 08:29.26 | mhall | jm_: but when he was doing it hardcore he used pretty sophisticated flood stuff |
| 08:29.29 | dli | sep exactly, I thought it was an ntp.conf problem, and kept restarting ntpd, then, it never sync :) interesting, tricky problem |
| 08:29.43 | dli | sep: everything is okay now |
| 08:29.58 | adii | mpc format should be killed |
| 08:30.06 | Guerin | adii: agreed |
| 08:30.07 | adii | or at least forbidden |
| 08:30.08 | adii | ;à |
| 08:30.10 | adii | :) |
| 08:30.12 | Guerin | adii: well .. no. |
| 08:30.13 | clint- | I only been into the world of computing for a year and a half, that is not much to be into multi tasking and open source and back and forth and dealing with rude people all around the world. thats why I dont' even chat in chat rooms channels.. |
| 08:30.15 | dli | sep: the problem I had yesterday was a real problem, I left out "disable auth" in client ntp.conf |
| 08:30.18 | mhall | adii: Guerin : what is it |
| 08:30.21 | Subvertir | holy shit |
| 08:30.23 | Guerin | adii: it'll die on its own eventually. |
| 08:30.30 | Guerin | mhall: YABDLAC |
| 08:30.33 | Subvertir | the manufacturer of my cheap walmart printer offers a linux driver for printing, and SANE support |
| 08:30.40 | Subvertir | score! |
| 08:30.42 | Guerin | adii: not as bad as MAC though |
| 08:30.56 | mhall | !tell me about YABDLAC |
| 08:31.03 | adii | i've just downloaded the complete nirvana discography ... and it was all encoded in mpc |
| 08:31.06 | mhall | Guerin: google returns 0 hits |
| 08:31.11 | adii | that's a crime |
| 08:31.15 | Guerin | mhall: yet another brain dead lossless audio codec |
| 08:31.24 | Subvertir | ahaha adii |
| 08:31.26 | mhall | wtf |
| 08:31.27 | Subvertir | I've got it all in mp3 =P |
| 08:31.35 | Subvertir | well, except outcesticide, I lost the CD =( |
| 08:31.35 | adii | complete one ? really ? |
| 08:31.36 | mhall | Guerin: what's wrong with flac and mac |
| 08:31.49 | adii | Subvertir, nevermind, i will download it once more |
| 08:31.50 | clint- | the thing I tell myself.. it doesn't matter the chat rooms or channels i am in on the net. if I can inspire or help someone. great.. but then again.. readin and applying the concepts.. can take you far. then when I get mansion and car , and yachts and women.. so what mattered in an irc chat room with people who have different interests in the people who they want to associate with.. |
| 08:31.56 | mhall | Guerin: i heard it was theoretically near impossible to compress more severely than mac without loss |
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| 08:32.17 | Guerin | mhall: flac is fine. mac is 1) non free; 2) keyed to windows; 3) technically inferior to flac; 4) less developed |
| 08:32.30 | pngwn | clint-, the topic in here is debian |
| 08:32.38 | mhall | Guerin: right i agree mac is less good to use |
| 08:32.39 | clint- | yes I know what it is |
| 08:32.45 | Subvertir | wow, guys, Brother printers kick ass. |
| 08:32.50 | mhall | Guerin: but apparently it can get slightly higher compression |
| 08:33.01 | mhall | Guerin: my point was, what's the point of not using one or the other of those |
| 08:33.04 | Subvertir | if you're looking for a superduper cheap printer that works well and has linux support, this is the ticket |
| 08:33.10 | Guerin | mhall: at the cost of MUCH higher cpu usage |
| 08:33.20 | mhall | Guerin: what could any other format possibly do better besides... screwing users? |
| 08:33.27 | Guerin | mhall: that's the point, yeah. |
| 08:33.30 | clint- | okay mhall |
| 08:33.42 | clint- | I make ya deal. you and Gnea and spdf, and kevix. |
| 08:33.43 | Guerin | mhall: mpc offers a lossy/lossless hybrid scheme |
| 08:33.48 | Guerin | mhall: but it's really a gimmick |
| 08:34.07 | mhall | that's crap |
| 08:34.12 | clint- | after I get my resolution configured. and possible putting dvd playback whatever. rip. I got this movie I want to watch so bad |
| 08:34.44 | kevix | Guerin, mhall with multi-gig hd's, any free format is fine! compression or not! |
| 08:34.49 | Subvertir | erm, what the hell is the point of lossless audio? am I the only person who can't tell the difference between a flac file and 160kbps mp3? |
| 08:34.55 | clint- | notebook have dvd. and I proud to have what I got in life, etc.. just wanted to come here thinkin was support. I make sure to email the programmers of debian. and just put.. OPen Source.. but also.. Open Opinions.. :) |
| 08:35.08 | Guerin | kevix: say that again when you have a 2 gig hard drive. |
| 08:35.52 | clint- | oh and.. maybe I can exchange msn protocol with ya. I use trilian, kopete, and gaim |
| 08:35.59 | kevix | Guerin: with a 2 Gig drive, you can't exaclty have a full cd collection on disk! just get a nano! |
| 08:36.12 | mhall | Subvertir: that's not when it is an issue |
| 08:36.24 | mhall | Subvertir: the trick is, let's say you want to recompress after editing |
| 08:36.32 | Subvertir | ok |
| 08:36.35 | mhall | Subvertir: mp3 -> wav -> mp3 gets bad quality really quick |
| 08:36.39 | mhall | Subvertir: see what i mean? |
| 08:36.41 | Subvertir | ahh, I see |
| 08:36.44 | clint- | tell ya what.. I just need the help on the resolution. I will configure the vmware and the dvd. and ripping and every dang other packages and program the OS to my needs and desires and just make my life easy and proud of thyself |
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| 08:37.06 | Phated | !drxx clint- |
| 08:37.07 | dpkg | clint-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 08:37.13 | clint- | and then I will leave room and forget about in , couple days |
| 08:37.18 | mhall | Subvertir: same thing that happens when you try jpeg -> tiff (arguably what a ram gimp or photoshop buffer is formatted in) -> jpeg |
| 08:37.25 | spdf | clint-, Your video driver is "i810", resolution is 1280x800... |
| 08:37.31 | Guerin | kevix: haha |
| 08:37.34 | clint- | k sec |
| 08:37.38 | r4lekker | test |
| 08:37.39 | kevix | clint-: you need to install x-window-system, kde, gnome, kdm, and gdm first! |
| 08:37.40 | clint- | thanks spdf |
| 08:37.44 | mhall | Subvertir: also it does not take a whole lot more room than a vbr 10/10 quality mp3 stream |
| 08:37.56 | Sleep0r | Fast question, hopefully a fast answer: Why are partitions like /var limited to 3gb or similar? |
| 08:37.56 | clint- | sorry for all the hassle and extra bullshitz |
| 08:38.07 | r4lekker | does this work ? |
| 08:38.09 | spdf | clint-, I can take it. I'm made of butter. |
| 08:38.18 | Gnea | Sleep0r: they are? |
| 08:38.23 | clint- | when I make it big in the IT, or NSA , or Sun spdf.. I let you have your own super computer m8 |
| 08:38.25 | kevix | Sleep0r: where did you read this? |
| 08:38.29 | clint- | or IBM etc |
| 08:38.30 | Subvertir | mhall, I encode my mp3s at similar settings (192kbps vbr) and they're about 7mb on average |
| 08:38.31 | Sleep0r | Gnea: At least with the installer |
| 08:38.41 | clint- | and Gnea and kevix as well |
| 08:38.48 | bonz | why would you need a display manager let alone two too install x? |
| 08:38.50 | mhall | Subvertir: flac is about 20-30 |
| 08:38.51 | clint- | get into m4a |
| 08:38.56 | Sleep0r | The installer tells me, that i can't set it to more that 3g |
| 08:38.57 | mhall | Subvertir: it's worse but not a whole ton worse |
| 08:39.01 | Gnea | Sleep0r: with the installer, you can go and manually edit the partitions and make them any size you want, even create completely new ones, like /yabadabadoo |
| 08:39.03 | mhall | Subvertir: maybe 3x-4x the size |
| 08:39.12 | Subvertir | yeah, I guess with 350 gig drives it's worth it if you find yourself in a situation where you need to transcode |
| 08:39.38 | kevix | bonz: I meant he can install kdm/kde or gdm/gnome (and both if he is a masochist) |
| 08:39.40 | surfdue | what do i have to do to add vncserver to start on system start |
| 08:39.58 | clint- | yes I know how to install the graphical user interfaces |
| 08:40.02 | Subvertir | I can't believe I just installed a wal-mart printer in 5 minutes |
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| 08:40.12 | clint- | I have already done that before a year and half ago with Mandrake 10.0 |
| 08:40.15 | spdf | I can't believe Walmart sells a printer worth installing... |
| 08:40.18 | Subvertir | last time I tried with an expensive canon printer it shat the bed |
| 08:40.27 | bonz | kevix: installing one oof them is masochistic enough I reckon :) |
| 08:40.33 | Sleep0r | -> /usr is limited to 5g, /var to 3g, /tmp is limited to 403m! This is kind of stu... |
| 08:40.46 | clint- | spdf |
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| 08:40.51 | Gnea | spdf: oh they sell a lot of good printers these days |
| 08:40.51 | kevix | Sleep0r: if you are using an automated disk partition program, it can only use so much of your disk. |
| 08:40.53 | clint- | they can't see me typin correct? |
| 08:40.58 | kevix | bonz: hehe |
| 08:41.03 | mhall | clint-: can't see you typin what |
| 08:41.07 | Subvertir | spdf, the Brother MCL-420cn was $60 on sale, scans, prints, faxes, has a small footprint and they support debian! |
| 08:41.07 | Sleep0r | Kevin: why? |
| 08:41.08 | mhall | clint-: ;-) |
| 08:41.08 | spdf | clint-, Who? |
| 08:41.12 | clint- | not you mhall |
| 08:41.18 | Guerin | the people he's ignored |
| 08:41.18 | mhall | clint-: just teasin ya ma |
| 08:41.18 | spdf | Subvertir, USD right? |
| 08:41.19 | Guerin | like me |
| 08:41.21 | Subvertir | Yeah USD |
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| 08:41.23 | Gnea | Sleep0r: no no, if you navigate the menu properly, you can select a 'manually edit partition table' option |
| 08:41.28 | clint- | Guerin, Phated, SlayerXP, |
| 08:41.34 | mhall | clint-: no they can see it |
| 08:41.37 | clint- | surfdue |
| 08:41.40 | kevix | Subvertir: linux on the desktop! is on the way! |
| 08:41.41 | clint- | thought so :) |
| 08:41.42 | surfdue | yes? |
| 08:41.42 | mhall | clint-: you just can't see their replies |
| 08:41.45 | Guerin | !say clint- no, we can't see a thing. |
| 08:41.45 | spdf | Subvertir, Hmm.. Cartridges cheap? |
| 08:41.46 | dpkg | clint- no, we can't see a thing. |
| 08:41.50 | clint- | oh not you surfdue.. must of been thinkin |
| 08:41.56 | robewald | hi, how do i escape \\1 where \1 is the content from a regexp so that i get \foo after foo has been matched |
| 08:41.57 | clint- | thanks scripted bot :) |
| 08:42.03 | bonz | Subvertir: let me guess the print catridges are $500 each? :) |
| 08:42.10 | jm_ | roben;context |
| 08:42.11 | Subvertir | spdf, I haven't priced them, last I checked there was no such thing as cheap cartridges |
| 08:42.12 | Guerin | !say this is Guerin speaking |
| 08:42.13 | dpkg | this is Guerin speaking |
| 08:42.14 | jm_ | robewald ^^^^^ |
| 08:42.24 | clint- | holy crap! :O |
| 08:42.26 | Subvertir | Expensive cartridges don't bother me -too- much, I do next to no printing at home |
| 08:42.26 | FlimFlamMan | ummm, should i be able to mount a partition at more than one mountpoint? |
| 08:42.39 | robewald | jm_: ?? |
| 08:42.43 | jm_ | robewald: context ... |
| 08:42.52 | Sleep0r | Gnea: give it a tr |
| 08:42.54 | mhall | Subvertir: i found this elite site that sells offbrand commie pinko carts from china for next to nothing |
| 08:42.58 | Guerin | !say clint-: you can affect what you see on your screen, but not what we see on ours. |
| 08:42.59 | dpkg | clint-: you can affect what you see on your screen, but not what we see on ours. |
| 08:43.00 | bonz | Subvertir: which is why I prefer easily cleaned ink reservoirs |
| 08:43.04 | jm_ | fliml;yes, with 2.6 |
| 08:43.07 | jm_ | gah |
| 08:43.09 | mhall | Subvertir: the quality is only 90% as good but it's acceptable |
| 08:43.11 | Gnea | Sleep0r: i've done is many, many times - you're using the sarge installer? |
| 08:43.26 | mhall | Subvertir: also they send me free trinkets with my order |
| 08:43.35 | surfdue | what do i have to do to add vncserver to start on system start? |
| 08:43.41 | surfdue | i use gnome |
| 08:43.46 | Gnea | gnome sucks |
| 08:43.47 | surfdue | if ther eis a manager gui or something |
| 08:43.49 | mhall | Subvertir: flashlight pens, optical mice, you never know what you'll get, a proverbial box of chocolates |
| 08:43.50 | Subvertir | amazon shows $9 per cartridge |
| 08:43.51 | surfdue | ya i know |
| 08:43.53 | clint- | nah.. can actually just. unplug network interface.. quite easily done :) |
| 08:43.53 | surfdue | :) |
| 08:44.28 | Subvertir | mhall, yeah I'm not a printer connoiseur or anything, hehe |
| 08:44.30 | robewald | jm_: the context is regexps, I match something with (foo|bar) and then I want to precede a \ to the match, i tried \\1 but that replaces foo or bar with \\1 :-( |
| 08:44.43 | jm_ | robewald: no I mean are you using sed or what? |
| 08:44.48 | bonz | Subvertir: how many pages per $9 cartridge? 3? |
| 08:45.07 | Subvertir | I dunnno, 3.2 ounces of ink |
| 08:45.12 | robewald | no kde actually, and the search and replace funtion |
| 08:45.17 | mhall | Subvertir: here is the site i use http://www.ink4inkjets.com/ |
| 08:45.30 | Subvertir | cool, thanks mhall |
| 08:45.32 | mrverbose | whats the name of the current testing branch? |
| 08:45.37 | mhall | robewald: hmm |
| 08:45.39 | Guerin | mrverbose: etch |
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| 08:45.46 | mhall | robewald: i think you could do this well with awk |
| 08:45.47 | Subvertir | the chinese are eating up all the small profit margin markets =( |
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| 08:45.57 | jm_ | ohh I have no idea about KDE |
| 08:45.59 | mhall | Subvertir: germany is the world's largest exporter though |
| 08:46.07 | mhall | Subvertir: so it's not working so good for china |
| 08:46.15 | mhall | Subvertir: also usa is second |
| 08:46.17 | scruffy | robewald: does $1 work? |
| 08:46.19 | kevix | mrverbose: as in etch-a-sketch! |
| 08:46.22 | mhall | Subvertir: and china is thirs but far far behind |
| 08:46.43 | mrverbose | mhall: but they are gaining rapidl |
| 08:46.44 | mrverbose | y |
| 08:46.50 | Subvertir | didn't realize that, I figured they would be first |
| 08:47.02 | mhall | mrverbose: i'm not convinced it will work |
| 08:47.04 | clint- | k spdf |
| 08:47.08 | robewald | scruffy: no |
| 08:47.09 | mrverbose | Subvertir: god knows what happens when they are one day :) |
| 08:47.11 | mhall | mrverbose: i think the usa is headed for a bit of a crash |
| 08:47.14 | clint- | I got PCI information as well |
| 08:47.22 | mhall | mrverbose: which will lower costs as the dollar becomes affordable |
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| 08:47.29 | mhall | mrverbose: and that will increase our exports |
| 08:47.35 | Subvertir | affordable, or worthless? =P |
| 08:47.50 | mrverbose | shall us-economy will go down in the process, so will many others :) |
| 08:47.58 | robewald | jm_: the point is blabla\1 works but the preciding \ trips it off, so i am looking for some sort of empty character |
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| 08:47.58 | clint- | does this matter at all? Intel 82801xxM Mobile I/O Controller Hub |
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| 08:48.00 | Subvertir | I'm feeling a bit apocalyptic about the US economy =/ |
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| 08:48.12 | mhall | mrverbose: also germany is sliding out toward their ppf as they increase employment, stabilize the east, and the euro picks up steam and lowers the cost of running the eu |
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| 08:48.28 | robewald | so if someone hase general knowledge of regexps please help |
| 08:48.40 | mhall | mrverbose: whereas in china, they have an overvalued colossally mismanaged currency |
| 08:48.41 | Guerin | robewald: man 7 regex knows a lot |
| 08:48.50 | clint- | k spdf this what I got from SGA VESA OEM STring |
| 08:48.52 | mhall | mrverbose: even dwarfing the incompetence of the us |
| 08:48.54 | Gnea | robewald: \\ |
| 08:48.57 | jm_ | robewald: I really never used KDE, can't help you - sorry |
| 08:49.07 | scruffy | Gnea: he's tried it |
| 08:49.13 | Gnea | scruffy: oh.. |
| 08:49.14 | Gnea | oops |
| 08:49.15 | Gnea | sorry |
| 08:49.22 | Subvertir | I'm sore as hell from playing hackeysack |
| 08:49.36 | clint- | SVGA VESA OEM String: Intel (r) 915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS |
| 08:49.38 | Gnea | what |
| 08:49.40 | Gnea | can't be |
| 08:49.46 | scruffy | robewald: I'm guessing \\\1 leaves \\1? |
| 08:49.57 | clint- | XGA VESA OEM String: Unknown |
| 08:50.09 | mhall | robewald: look at this function: match(string, regexp [, array]) in this: http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/gawk.html.gz |
| 08:50.27 | kevix | clint-: sounds like i915 module |
| 08:50.33 | clint- | k |
| 08:50.46 | mhall | mrverbose: also as us dollar declines so do exports from china to the us |
| 08:50.53 | clint- | ignorin sure helps out alot.. clears the mind of confusion |
| 08:51.07 | mhall | clint-: yeah i second that statement |
| 08:51.08 | robewald | scruffy: no, that leaves \\\1 strangely |
| 08:51.25 | kevix | clint-: its called focus! |
| 08:51.28 | clint- | thanks mhall for the support. but you do'nt have to stick up for me m8.. I take on alot.. don't bother me though. I live to see more in life. dont' care about what the net thinks |
| 08:51.34 | mrverbose | mhall: eu passed a law to control cloth-importing from china |
| 08:51.37 | mhall | robewald: consider asking #perl |
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| 08:51.45 | clint- | it don't bother me though* |
| 08:51.45 | mhall | mrverbose: yeah i heard about it |
| 08:51.51 | mhall | mrverbose: i was disappointed in them |
| 08:52.03 | mhall | mrverbose: but the airbus situation disappoints me more |
| 08:52.04 | scruffy | robewald: that's why I originally asked about $1. Seems matches aren't held that way (\1,\2, etc). Does it specifically say it uses POSIX regex? |
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| 08:52.09 | kevix | clint-: in that case, get a blog! |
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| 08:52.33 | clint- | nah. no need to get a blog.. just trying to configure the video for Debian on my Acer Aspire 3613 |
| 08:52.42 | mhall | clint-: yes spdf and i think you would write an amazing blog |
| 08:52.50 | mhall | clint-: you should seriously consider it |
| 08:52.51 | clint- | no thanks |
| 08:52.52 | Cope | valid? |
| 08:52.56 | mhall | clint-: please |
| 08:53.02 | clint- | mhall.. thanks though |
| 08:53.03 | robewald | scruffy: no, it does not, but i belive kde uses the rexgexplib, that is used by most desktop stuff |
| 08:53.04 | kevix | mhall: the us-eu boeing-airbus thing? |
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| 08:53.09 | mhall | kevix: yes |
| 08:53.15 | mrverbose | mhall: well, i am still waiting for some of those airbusses to crash |
| 08:53.18 | robewald | libprsc something like that? |
| 08:53.21 | clint- | I am out of here in a min |
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| 08:53.24 | mhall | kevix: i'm not happy at the us but even less so at the eu |
| 08:53.26 | mhall | clint-: damn |
| 08:53.36 | clint- | this what it say for this too as well |
| 08:53.43 | clint- | Astra tellin me this |
| 08:53.50 | mrverbose | because they disclose security issues so much, they even sued an engineer that was making the risks publically available for airbus was not willing to fix them |
| 08:53.59 | kevix | mrverbose: I take jetblue, they use airbus's! |
| 08:54.04 | Danny_Lion | oh... anybody tried to use Kensington WebRacer under Debian? |
| 08:54.08 | Cope | Is kernel.shmmin = 1 a valid parameter in sysctl.conf? I don't see an shmmni in /proc/sys/kernel |
| 08:54.18 | Cope | sorry shmmin! |
| 08:54.19 | clint- | Video Summary: Monitor Vendor: Seiko Epson , Monitor MOdel: Unknown (SEC 3345) , Video Chip Vendor : Intel Corporation |
| 08:54.22 | Danny_Lion | I want its buttons to be fully supported and the touchpad working... |
| 08:54.27 | Cope | shmmni is of coourse there |
| 08:54.45 | mhall | mrverbose: any time the gov't or even worse multiple gov'ts own a company |
| 08:54.45 | clint- | Video Chip: 82915GM/GMS, 82910GML, MObile EXpress Chipset |
| 08:54.48 | Danny_Lion | i don't have the device yet, but a friend of mine should give it to me in 2-3 days |
| 08:54.53 | mhall | mrverbose: you can generally expect the worse from that company |
| 08:54.55 | Danny_Lion | any suggestions? |
| 08:55.04 | mhall | mrverbose: and reliably receive it on a regular basis |
| 08:55.11 | Danny_Lion | i know the device is somewhat strange, but... |
| 08:55.26 | clint- | I am going do the netinst in a just min |
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| 08:56.15 | clint- | if I can't get the video config to 1280 x 800 .. I am going do what I said. and make the Debian 3.1 Netinst frisbie champaigne |
| 08:56.30 | clint- | champagne |
| 08:56.47 | mhall | clint-: dude it will work with the right X setup |
| 08:56.51 | ashridah | hey can anyone possibly suggest why my cdrom drive is changing it's ownership to uid 400 and gid to 401 whenever i mount it? |
| 08:56.52 | clint- | ya know.. part of the frisbie golf club |
| 08:56.54 | mhall | clint-: i ran it on my emachines laptop |
| 08:57.04 | mhall | clint-: i told you what settings to put in your x conf file |
| 08:57.09 | mhall | clint-: just google this: |
| 08:57.14 | clint- | thats the thing |
| 08:57.16 | scruffy | robewald: well, I'm at a loss. :\ I also don't use KDE, so I can't test myself |
| 08:57.16 | mhall | clint-: "1280x800" linux |
| 08:57.17 | ashridah | that's not a valid uid or gid, and i'm having trouble working out where it's being changed (since i actually don't want it to damned well change at all) |
| 08:57.19 | clint- | I havn't got it booted yet! |
| 08:57.31 | mhall | clint-: when you do just set it up |
| 08:57.43 | mhall | clint-: the textmode will work fine by default it will just be a little blurry |
| 08:57.46 | robewald | scruffy: i asked in kde, i suspect a bug, thanks for your help |
| 08:57.48 | clint- | I am nag on ya .. trust me lmfao |
| 08:57.51 | jm_ | ashridah: rockridge extensions |
| 08:57.56 | scruffy | robewald: sorry I couldn't help |
| 08:57.57 | mhall | clint-: all you need is to be able to set it all up and then edit the file |
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| 08:58.03 | mhall | clint-: and it really should work |
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| 08:58.12 | mhall | clint-: i've done it over 20 times since 1998 |
| 08:58.13 | ashridah | jm_: eh? |
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| 08:58.19 | clint- | I have installed debian . this will be the 4th time |
| 08:58.20 | jm_ | ashridah: man mount |
| 08:58.33 | mhall | clint-: where do you live btw |
| 08:58.35 | clint- | thanks mhall.. and all |
| 08:58.50 | mhall | clint-: if you have more problems that you cannot solve |
| 08:58.54 | clint- | appearantly thats irrelevant.. I don't belong in the friendship world of the net m8 |
| 08:58.56 | mhall | clint-: please go to a local linux user group |
| 08:58.59 | ashridah | jm_: i fail to see what that has to do with something changing the ownership of the mountpoint for the cdrom to an invalid uid/gid |
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| 08:59.04 | mhall | clint-: they can help you in person until it works |
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| 08:59.19 | ashridah | especially since the dvd itself doesn't have rockridge extensions added, afaik |
| 08:59.20 | mhall | Zoo: i swear by my local LUG when there is something wrong i can't figure out over the net |
| 08:59.33 | Zoo | mhall |
| 08:59.34 | mhall | Zoo: i'm guessing based on your /whois you are in peoria |
| 08:59.34 | Zoo | 80 O'Reilly Books (TCP-IP, Unix, Web, Perl, Java, Oracle, xml, etc) |
| 08:59.40 | jm_ | ashridah: I failed to understand that from your description - how does it get mounted? |
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| 08:59.52 | ashridah | jm_: i run 'mount /cdrom' |
| 08:59.55 | Zoo | (O'Reilly) - Understanding The Linux Kernel |
| 09:00.04 | Zoo | Absolute BSD - The Ultimate Guide to FreeBSD (1st Edition, 2002) |
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| 09:00.07 | ashridah | it suddenly changes from being owned by root.root to 400.401 |
| 09:00.17 | jm_ | ashridah: what's in the fstab line? |
| 09:00.18 | ashridah | (and becomes 700 too) |
| 09:00.23 | Zoo | I got tons of books. I am just trying to get the dam funkin video to higher resolution is all! |
| 09:00.26 | kevix | ashridah: what about your /etc/fstab ? |
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| 09:00.38 | Zoo | and then I won't be a pest I swear on my life! |
| 09:00.41 | ashridah | just set to ro,users,noauto |
| 09:00.49 | Zoo | I just hate working in 800 x 600! |
| 09:00.50 | robin_sz | morning .. can anyone enlighten me as to the status of the current Sarge installer and Intel ICH5R raid with SATA drives ?? Ie does it work straight out of the box |
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| 09:01.06 | jm_ | and you're mounting it as user? |
| 09:01.10 | Zoo | if debian was so smart.. then why did it put ny nice new system in 800x600 |
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| 09:01.27 | ashridah | yep. |
| 09:01.30 | Zoo | Linux GNU Debian Bible |
| 09:01.33 | mhall | Zoo: i bet these guys can help you http://lugop.org/tiki-index.php |
| 09:01.35 | ashridah | mount it as root and makes no difference |
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| 09:01.48 | ashridah | *something* is changing its permissions, and it's only something that's recently started happening |
| 09:01.49 | mhall | Zoo: dude i told you how to do it |
| 09:01.50 | Zoo | O'Reilly - Learning Debian Gnu Linux |
| 09:01.54 | Zoo | i don't want there help |
| 09:01.59 | mhall | Zoo: you just have to tweak the configuration file |
| 09:02.02 | Gnea | Zoo: because you told it to. |
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| 09:02.16 | Guerin | christ, why is Zoo wittering away to himself? |
| 09:02.17 | Zoo | hereI will make things easier on us all |
| 09:02.24 | jm_ | can't think of anything useful, maybe udev? |
| 09:02.28 | nakee | what does |
| 09:02.28 | Gnea | you keep saying that |
| 09:02.30 | Zoo | wat was the saying in Back to the Future? |
| 09:02.30 | nakee | invoke-rc.d: WARNING: invoke-rc.d called during shutdown sequence |
| 09:02.30 | bonz | ashridah: or ,suid=id of user too mount it |
| 09:02.30 | nakee | invoke-rc.d: enabling safe mode: initscript policy layer disabled |
| 09:02.32 | nakee | means? |
| 09:02.33 | Gnea | yet it doesn't seem to happen |
| 09:02.37 | spdf | Zoo, what resolutions do you have defined in your xorg.conf? |
| 09:02.41 | Zoo | why don't you make like a tree and leave? |
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| 09:02.49 | ashridah | bonz: ick. ick ick ick. i have more than one user, thanks |
| 09:03.01 | bonz | might need suid & ,dev also with that option though |
| 09:03.02 | ashridah | and that won't stop something coming along behind it and changing the perms of the mountpoint |
| 09:03.03 | mhall | Zoo: I prefer to make like titties and bounce. |
| 09:03.20 | Zoo | and yes |
| 09:03.21 | Guerin | mhall: you really oughtn't talk to preteens like that |
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| 09:03.31 | Gnea | nakee: it means that invoke-rc.d, which executes sysV style init script actions, was called during shutdown |
| 09:03.34 | mhall | Guerin: you're supposed to be ignoring him |
| 09:03.40 | mhall | Guerin: why do you care :-D |
| 09:03.40 | Zoo | kubuntu is very nice. but the mother effer was having problems accepting my dang passwords I had gave it |
| 09:03.43 | ashridah | jm_: i was thinking about udev, but i'm not familiar enough with its configuration files to know where the change is happening, it does refer to the cdrom a few times, but this isn't a mount-on-insert thing, it's just me running 'mount /cdrom' |
| 09:03.47 | Guerin | mhall: nonono, he claimed to be ignoring me |
| 09:03.57 | Zoo | but you see I don't want a dang distro that was desinged from other systems and configuration!!!! |
| 09:04.03 | robin_sz | morning .. can anyone enlighten me as to the status of the current Sarge installer and Intel ICH5R raid with SATA drives ?? Ie does it work straight out of the box |
| 09:04.05 | mhall | Guerin: you didn't seem to be much interested in hearing from him either though |
| 09:04.13 | Zoo | i think spdf gets my point |
| 09:04.19 | Guerin | mhall: honestly he's not had a lot to say |
| 09:04.21 | jm_ | ashridah: yeah that's what makes it really strange, especially when run as root |
| 09:04.32 | spdf | Zoo, I'm all over it like white on rice... and brown on some rices.. and wild on some others.. |
| 09:04.38 | Guerin | mhall: other than OMG linux!!!11 |
| 09:04.41 | Zoo | and your cool |
| 09:04.43 | jm_ | robin_sz: Linux SATA page has details about hardware support |
| 09:04.51 | Zoo | and thats why I havn't blocked ya. and I still with ya |
| 09:04.53 | spdf | Zoo, 3 out of 4 dentists agree. |
| 09:04.53 | bonz | didn't know the sarge installer come boxed :) |
| 09:05.03 | ashridah | and so far as i can tell, the stuff in udev's config files are talking about changing the perms of the device node, not the mount point |
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| 09:05.16 | Zoo | spdf.. need more people like you in life. but guess it going take more disasters wipe the bad out m8 |
| 09:05.17 | ashridah | (ie, setting it to the cdrom group so cdburner apps can access it) |
| 09:05.27 | Zoo | cough |
| 09:05.49 | Zoo | k..what be good do to my bios m8 |
| 09:06.04 | mhall | fearme^: Nein. Ich habe vor dir keine Angst. |
| 09:06.08 | jm_ | ahh good point, udev would mess up the device file, not the mount point |
| 09:06.09 | Zoo | is says my system bios is shadowed and video is shadowed |
| 09:06.12 | jm_ | so we can rule that out |
| 09:06.20 | Zoo | thats wierd |
| 09:06.29 | mhall | jm_: udev messed up everything for me |
| 09:06.31 | mhall | jm_: hehehe |
| 09:06.40 | Gnea | udev rocks like that |
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| 09:06.41 | Zoo | its has VGA Memory to 128 MB |
| 09:06.41 | Gnea | :) |
| 09:06.42 | jm_ | mhall: I never allowed it to install |
| 09:06.48 | Zoo | but I can change to 3 different options |
| 09:06.52 | robin_sz | jm_: linux SATA page .. sigh there are so many |
| 09:07.03 | mhall | jm_: files it's supposed to recreate on boot do not get fucking recreated on boot |
| 09:07.06 | jm_ | robin_sz: no, there's exactly one |
| 09:07.07 | Zoo | Gnea I am going create Zoo Linux just for the hell of it |
| 09:07.08 | mhall | jm_: omgwtfbbq |
| 09:07.09 | spdf | Zoo, you can safely change that 128mb to between 32 or 64.. You don't need that much allocated.. |
| 09:07.16 | Gnea | Zoo: please do |
| 09:07.19 | jm_ | mhall: doesn't coldplug handle that? |
| 09:07.20 | mhall | robin_sz: er what sata controller |
| 09:07.31 | mhall | jm_: no i edited udev conf files |
| 09:07.35 | Zoo | i will Gnea |
| 09:07.39 | mhall | jm_: and it STILL didn't work |
| 09:07.44 | Zoo | just to say I did it. and people to hate me |
| 09:07.48 | ashridah | this is bizarre |
| 09:07.49 | spdf | But seriously. Purple Monkey Dishwasher. |
| 09:07.51 | Gnea | *YAWN* |
| 09:07.51 | Zoo | and for those who hated |
| 09:07.51 | jm_ | and SATA page has FAQ which deals with ICH5 RAID, telling you it's not hardware RAID |
| 09:07.58 | Zoo | :) |
| 09:08.03 | jm_ | mhall: that's why I avoid it for now |
| 09:08.05 | ashridah | i can't change the damned permissions after it's been mounted too, much to my annoyance :) |
| 09:08.16 | Zoo | 64 MB, 128MB , and MaxDVMT what it got |
| 09:08.21 | mhall | robin_sz: 99/100 work right in a 2.6 kernel |
| 09:08.25 | Zoo | thats all spdf |
| 09:08.25 | jm_ | ashridah: that's normal - maybe strace mount and see how it calls mount(2) |
| 09:08.38 | nakee | Gnea: yea but what can call it? |
| 09:08.41 | Zoo | System Memory 640 KB |
| 09:08.51 | Zoo | Extended Memory : 510 MB |
| 09:08.53 | mhall | I decided my favorite system call is mmap. |
| 09:08.59 | ashridah | jm_: joy. :/ |
| 09:08.59 | Zoo | VGA Memory : 128 by default |
| 09:09.15 | Zoo | power on display? |
| 09:09.22 | mhall | Followed closely by madvise. |
| 09:09.28 | Zoo | hm.. what wierd |
| 09:09.48 | Zoo | I have an F12 boot menu as well |
| 09:09.54 | Cope | what kernel parameter (if any) is the equivalent of setting ulimit -u? |
| 09:10.00 | mhall | Who else thinks mmap is cool? |
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| 09:11.06 | mhall | whiskey tango foxtrot is going on with my cellular phone. it's lighting its own display up randomly for no good reason |
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| 09:11.28 | ashridah | hrm. it doesn't seem to be doing much other than setting MS_RDONLY|MS_NOSUID|MS_NODEV|MS_NOEXEC|MS_POSIXACL|MS_ACTIVE|MS_NOUSER as i'd expect. |
| 09:11.58 | Zoo | lmao @ got white paper on my card i think http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/applnots/30262403.pdf |
| 09:12.23 | Zoo | I am going do some studyin |
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| 09:13.11 | Subvertir | heh mhall, my car stereo got possessed... it had a green backlit display that turned red =D |
| 09:13.14 | mhall | Cope: hmm it looks like that would have to use getrlimit and setrlimit glibc calls |
| 09:13.18 | mhall | Subvertir: ! |
| 09:13.28 | Subvertir | yeah I had to doubletake on it |
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| 09:13.37 | mhall | Subvertir: that can happen? |
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| 09:13.45 | mhall | Cope: so try stracing it |
| 09:13.49 | Zoo | ahh. I know what DVMT stands for now. anyone want to take a guess? without googl'ing? |
| 09:13.52 | Subvertir | apparently so, I'm certain it doesn't have a colorchange option |
| 09:13.53 | spdf | The power of Christ compels you..r stereo. |
| 09:14.03 | Subvertir | it's a $30 pawn shop deck |
| 09:14.08 | spdf | Dynamic Video Memory Tech... |
| 09:14.18 | Zoo | was google? |
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| 09:14.20 | Zoo | :P |
| 09:14.22 | spdf | Was it? |
| 09:14.23 | mhall | Cope: since it's a shell builtin |
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| 09:14.29 | Zoo | yes it was |
| 09:14.31 | mhall | Cope: you'll have to trace a bash running the command |
| 09:14.34 | spdf | I'm smart like that.. |
| 09:14.39 | Zoo | :) |
| 09:14.45 | Zoo | reading is power. now isn't it |
| 09:14.55 | Zoo | well anyways.. I got that option as well |
| 09:15.01 | Delfyn | anyone know how to get /etc/fstab entry for usb storage automatically written? I have two problems: 1) /etc/hotplug/usb.agent calls updfstab only for the 'remove' clause of the 'case' statement, not for the 'add', but I can fix this. 2) if I call /usr/sbin/updfstab myself then it complains that /etc/updfstab.conf is missing and an empty version of this file is not sufficient (I tried) and I don't know what this file should look like. |
| 09:15.09 | ndee | hi there, where are the DNS server settings for a network interface normally stored? The problem is, when I ping a hostname, it gives me a "wrong" ip address. |
| 09:15.14 | Subvertir | http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery.php?userid=17684&lastpage=1&perpage=36&folderid=&action=view&sortby=&in=IMG_1098.JPG&s= |
| 09:15.14 | Subvertir | =O |
| 09:15.27 | Zoo | so sdf |
| 09:15.42 | Zoo | so spdf, if your smart like that. what you recommend I set for VGA Memory |
| 09:15.47 | Gnea | nakee: could be anything... grep invoke-rc.d /etc/init.d/* |
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| 09:16.06 | mhall | Cope: I figured it out |
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| 09:16.07 | Zoo | 64MB, 128MB, MaxDVMT |
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| 09:16.11 | kevix | ndee: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:16.11 | mhall | Cope: getrlimit(RLIMIT_NPROC, {rlim_cur=1024, rlim_max=1024}) = 0 |
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| 09:16.12 | spdf | Zoo, 64 |
| 09:16.23 | Zoo | but why so low |
| 09:16.25 | mhall | Cope: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NPROC, {rlim_cur=1024, rlim_max=1024}) = 0 |
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| 09:16.32 | spdf | Zoo, Are you dual booting? |
| 09:16.35 | mhall | Cope: that's what i got from stracing a bash |
| 09:16.39 | Zoo | I would rather have the power :) |
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| 09:16.42 | ndee | kevix: I checked there, there's only a gateway, but I think I found the problem, the hoster has a wrong entry for a domain name |
| 09:16.54 | spdf | Zoo, What's going to use even half of those 64mb? |
| 09:16.55 | ashridah | ah well. i'll look into it later |
| 09:16.58 | Zoo | will it save on battery life :) |
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| 09:17.12 | Zoo | :- ) |
| 09:17.13 | spdf | Zoo, It'll give you more system memory.. that's a decent trade off.. |
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| 09:17.22 | Zoo | :- ) |
| 09:17.22 | mhall | Zoo: yes it will save batteries |
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| 09:17.32 | mhall | Zoo: because the more linux caches into your ram |
| 09:17.34 | Zoo | maybe I might want to do some gaming! :D |
| 09:17.37 | mhall | Zoo: the less it runs the hdd |
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| 09:17.47 | mhall | Zoo: 64m is a lot for gaming even on a laptop |
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| 09:17.58 | mhall | Zoo: and you can change the setting at will without breaking anything |
| 09:18.05 | Zoo | lmfao it put it back on 128MB lmfao |
| 09:18.10 | spdf | Zoo, Try it out. You won't die. |
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| 09:18.25 | Subvertir | Well, you might. But it'll be quick. |
| 09:18.31 | Zoo | ops nm. I hit setup defaults |
| 09:18.40 | spdf | What's this? 64mb? Sounds good to me. *DEATH* |
| 09:18.43 | mhall | Subvertir: stop trying to subvert everything subverter |
| 09:18.50 | Subvertir | =( |
| 09:18.54 | quoth | im in need of cc1plus, any idea what package this is in? can't seem to find it with apt-get or apt-file |
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| 09:18.59 | mhall | Subvertir: :-D |
| 09:18.59 | Zoo | yeah. and I might put you on ignore too Subvertir ;) |
| 09:19.04 | Subvertir | =O |
| 09:19.14 | mhall | !comfort Subvertir |
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| 09:19.15 | dpkg | There, there, Subvertir. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 09:19.16 | Zoo | oops.. it slipped 8-) |
| 09:19.17 | spdf | Watch out now. Lets not get drastic here.. |
| 09:19.22 | mhall | Subvertir: ;-) |
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| 09:19.42 | mhall | quoth: one sec |
| 09:19.45 | Zoo | spdf I just can't put dpkg debian package thingy on ignore :P |
| 09:19.56 | Zoo | or else i would :D |
| 09:19.56 | spdf | Zoo, You could if you wanted.. |
| 09:20.06 | quoth | mhall k? |
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| 09:20.22 | Zoo | what about MaxDVMT though :D |
| 09:20.25 | Delfyn | Any hotplug experts around please? |
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| 09:20.33 | mhall | quoth: yeah you need a copy of g++ |
| 09:20.43 | mrverbose | hm, etch install cd fails to install because some package could not be authenticated |
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| 09:20.48 | mhall | quoth: depending on what you're doing you'd choose from 3.3 or 4.0 probably |
| 09:20.59 | Zoo | spdf I'm ready to go through the install and all bud :) |
| 09:21.01 | mhall | mrverbose: that's not insanely great |
| 09:21.02 | quoth | mhall I thought I had it installed :/ |
| 09:21.07 | kevix | quoth: g++-$VERSION |
| 09:21.09 | mrverbose | basic system installation failed, doesnt seem to make much sense to continue |
| 09:21.19 | spdf | Zoo, Haven't started yet? |
| 09:21.19 | Zoo | I might feel comfortable with it on.. 128 MB :) |
| 09:21.21 | mhall | quoth: dpkg --get-selections | fgrep -i g++ |
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| 09:21.27 | Zoo | nope |
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| 09:21.35 | spdf | Zoo, That's fine. Its a waste though ;) |
| 09:21.36 | quoth | mhall got it, and im compiling as wel speak, thanks |
| 09:21.37 | Zoo | I might shoot the Netinst though |
| 09:21.43 | Subvertir | 4.0 compiles a lot faster than 3.x |
| 09:21.50 | Zoo | will it configure it if I put it back then |
| 09:21.59 | spdf | Configure what? |
| 09:22.04 | mhall | spdf: I don't think I ever witnessed somebody who was that hardcore about BIOSen since drive types went out of style. |
| 09:22.09 | Zoo | will you stick with me to set the right horizontal and vertical sync rates :) |
| 09:22.11 | mhall | spdf: What an iconoclast he is. |
| 09:22.26 | mhall | Zoo: Vertical syns on an LCD is always just 60. |
| 09:22.34 | Zoo | or else i sale my laptop.. and waste all the money at a cool club.. and strippers :) |
| 09:22.37 | gilead | recently when trying to upgrade unstable I'm told that udev requires changing and _removing_ hotplug -- I don't want to remove required package and cause problems -- is it some temporary state or hotplug has been really removed? |
| 09:22.38 | mhall | Zoo: Horizontal i will give you in a second |
| 09:22.47 | Subvertir | Zoo, tough choice! |
| 09:22.58 | Zoo | use discover |
| 09:23.01 | spdf | Zoo, mhall has the modeline you need for your xorg.conf |
| 09:23.08 | Zoo | I put him ignore |
| 09:23.12 | Zoo | on ignore :) |
| 09:23.19 | citral | Subvertir: the matter is not so much does it compile faster, but does it run faster, and is the code produced smaller. And there's no evidence about that for the moment (though it might change in a near future) |
| 09:23.22 | kevix | gilead: hotplug bye bye say hello to coldplug! |
| 09:23.22 | spdf | Unignore him then? |
| 09:23.25 | Zoo | like talkin to you more spdf.. I get along with ya better :) |
| 09:23.43 | Subvertir | citral, it's just anecdotal evidence on my part, I built KDE with it and it seemed a lot faster |
| 09:23.50 | Zoo | 8-) |
| 09:23.56 | gilead | kevix: ?? will check it! |
| 09:23.57 | Subvertir | citral, on the order of ~2hrs decrease in compile time |
| 09:24.15 | mhall | Zoo: horizontal will be 31.5 to 48.4 |
| 09:24.22 | mhall | Zoo: vertical will be 60 |
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| 09:24.27 | Subvertir | of course the resultant KDE didn't work |
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| 09:24.32 | Subvertir | but it compiled fast! |
| 09:24.35 | Zoo | k.. here go the nice lookin debian netinst |
| 09:24.37 | spdf | Zoo, did you unignore him? He's givin' them to you now.. |
| 09:24.42 | mhall | !say Zoo horizontal will be 31.5 to 48.4 |
| 09:24.43 | dpkg | Zoo horizontal will be 31.5 to 48.4 |
| 09:24.43 | gilead | kevix: there seems to be no coldplug package in unstable |
| 09:24.52 | mhall | !say Zoo vertical will be 60 |
| 09:24.53 | Zoo | it might be wrong Guerin |
| 09:24.53 | dpkg | Zoo vertical will be 60 |
| 09:24.58 | Zoo | tyvm though :) |
| 09:24.59 | citral | Subvertir: wow! impressive! :))) |
| 09:25.02 | quoth | anyone had the problem where a flashbanner can "steal" the focus of the keyboard? if I have a certain flash banner in my browser I can't type anything anywhere |
| 09:25.06 | spdf | There you go.. Write those down.. |
| 09:25.09 | Subvertir | citral I try =) |
| 09:25.12 | mhall | !say Zoo no i won't give you bad settings |
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| 09:25.13 | dpkg | Zoo no i won't give you bad settings |
| 09:25.19 | mhall | !say Zoo that would be fucked up |
| 09:25.20 | dpkg | Zoo that would be fucked up |
| 09:25.31 | Zoo | eh heh.. and I"m elvis presley |
| 09:25.38 | Subvertir | omfg the king is here |
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| 09:25.44 | citral | oh really... wow! |
| 09:25.45 | spdf | quoth, I have. Can't fix it. Its annoying. |
| 09:25.51 | Zoo | earlier you thought I was a wanker. |
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| 09:25.58 | mhall | !say Zoo not true at all |
| 09:25.59 | dpkg | Zoo not true at all |
| 09:26.01 | Zoo | now you want to help me with my graphics |
| 09:26.01 | kevix | gilead: I am only quote what the maintainer said (marco d'itri) |
| 09:26.03 | quoth | spdf its really annoying |
| 09:26.08 | ashridah | jm_: weird. turns out you were right, it's rockridge extensions at work. whoever made the dvd needs a beating :) |
| 09:26.09 | mhall | !say Zoo i just thought you were really funny |
| 09:26.10 | dpkg | Zoo i just thought you were really funny |
| 09:26.12 | Guerin | Zoo: you haven't demonstrated you're NOT a wanker |
| 09:26.19 | citral | !sat stop fucking with me mhall |
| 09:26.20 | Zoo | I put most of all you people who dont' understand me as a person I am |
| 09:26.31 | Zoo | on ignore |
| 09:26.51 | gilead | weird, ok, thanks kevix, I'll keep hotplug on hold for a while longer then |
| 09:26.52 | Zoo | so I can't see what ya say. even though if ya see me talkin. and it just sets it off. the better man walks away |
| 09:27.03 | widrone | &ignore zoo |
| 09:27.10 | Zoo | exactly |
| 09:27.13 | mhall | !say Zoo if you want to be like that go ahead; time for me to ignore you and give up |
| 09:27.13 | dpkg | Zoo if you want to be like that go ahead; time for me to ignore you and give up |
| 09:27.20 | Zoo | thanks |
| 09:27.20 | Subvertir | no way, the better man sneaks into your house while you're at work and draws mustaches on all of your portraits |
| 09:27.30 | Zoo | I gettin help from spdf |
| 09:27.42 | Zoo | who knows. I might get hit by a truck tomorrow or bus |
| 09:27.44 | mhall | Subvertir: lol! |
| 09:27.49 | Zoo | who knows |
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| 09:27.58 | Zoo | or power might go off during the middle of a net install |
| 09:28.02 | Zoo | dam that would suckk. |
| 09:28.04 | mhall | Subvertir: dude you're friggin hilarious |
| 09:28.05 | Zoo | :) |
| 09:28.19 | Zoo | ok.. I overlook it package manager |
| 09:28.39 | Zoo | but LIke I said.. I won't bother ya guys after today |
| 09:28.43 | Zoo | ya got my word.. :) |
| 09:28.56 | Zoo | chat rooms. chat channels. aren't for me m8 |
| 09:29.02 | Subvertir | omfg zoo |
| 09:29.06 | Subvertir | you mean we're not chatpals? |
| 09:29.33 | Zoo | there |
| 09:29.48 | spdf | Not even BFF?! |
| 09:29.50 | mrverbose | ok, so much for debian on my box |
| 09:29.51 | mrverbose | cya |
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| 09:29.53 | Zoo | I sure do like the F1 option.. for menu |
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| 09:30.22 | Zoo | Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux! |
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| 09:30.44 | Zoo | This is a Debian sarge installation CD-ROM, built on 20050305. |
| 09:30.50 | Zoo | HELP INDEX |
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| 09:31.00 | Zoo | KEY TOPIC |
| 09:31.00 | groulder | can someone help me with diff. i'm tring to figure out some syntax to make the differences clear. |
| 09:31.11 | mopatop | hey there - I've just plugged a scsi tape drive in to my sarge server but I've no idea where to start looking to see if it's been recognised or anything. it's been plugged in through a pci scsi card which I can see in lspci, but I can't find the drive anywhere. could anyone give me a couple of quick starting points to start using it? |
| 09:31.16 | Zoo | <F1> This page, the help index. |
| 09:31.33 | Zoo | <F2> Prerequisites for installing Debian. |
| 09:31.40 | Subvertir | mopatop, I've never used one myself, but I imagine you need to mount it and format it |
| 09:31.53 | Subvertir | mopatop, are you running discover, etc? |
| 09:31.55 | Zoo | gee. they sure through someone who dont' even know what prerequiesites is.. for a loop there spdf :P |
| 09:32.24 | saloxin | mopatop: dmesg - cat /proc/scsi/scsi and other /proc/scsi/controller/ files |
| 09:32.26 | mopatop | Subvertir: yeah I'm using discover from the bog-standard sarge install |
| 09:32.29 | Zoo | I like the F4 menu.. but not really sure how to use it.. Special Boot parameters overview :P |
| 09:32.32 | kevix | mopatop: IIRC it /dev/st??? |
| 09:32.40 | scruffy | mopatop: what does `dmesg | grep 'SCSI device'` say? |
| 09:33.00 | Gnea | Zoo: it tells you what to type at the boot: prompt if you want to use anything other than default values. |
| 09:33.07 | mopatop | scruffy: dmesg|grep -i scsi gives scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices |
| 09:33.14 | mopatop | scruffy: and some subsystem announces |
| 09:33.17 | Zoo | for special machines. they should of also put.. an F4 like this. F4 or made F11 .. Special boot parameters for stupid people like Zoo :) |
| 09:33.29 | mopatop | kevix: no such file or directory |
| 09:33.41 | scruffy | mopatop: it doesn't mention any /dev/s?? |
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| 09:34.28 | Zoo | hey spdf |
| 09:34.34 | scruffy | mopatop: nothing about "Attached scsi blah blah"? |
| 09:34.36 | Zoo | hey Gnea again! |
| 09:34.43 | Atula | I was wondering.... when will debian include openoffice 2? |
| 09:34.52 | Atula | !openoffice2 |
| 09:34.53 | mopatop | scruffy: lots of st* owned by root:tape, they show up as yellow with a black background in ls, think that means broken dev node or something |
| 09:34.53 | Zoo | you can just copy it :) |
| 09:34.57 | Gnea | Atula: when openoffice 2 exists. |
| 09:35.03 | mhall | Atula: hey they already did pretty much |
| 09:35.07 | Atula | I thought it's out already |
| 09:35.09 | Zoo | smile :) |
| 09:35.10 | mhall | Atula: but it's in experimental |
| 09:35.10 | mopatop | scruffy: nope, I think maybe some modules are required |
| 09:35.13 | Zoo | it is |
| 09:35.23 | mhall | Atula: don't fuck with it unless you know what you are doing |
| 09:35.24 | Atula | oh... I thought it was just released officially... |
| 09:35.27 | Zoo | get STar Office 8! :D |
| 09:35.36 | mhall | Atula: yeah there are hack debs available |
| 09:35.38 | Zoo | blow ya away :D |
| 09:35.42 | scruffy | mopatop: more than likely. Also, /dev/st0 looks to be what you want when you get the modules loaded. |
| 09:35.44 | rikclark | Hi there. I set someone up with Sarge on the weekend. They were going through a set-top box (ethernet) with a USB adapter. To get the netowrk up I had to 'ifconfig eth0 hw ether MA:CA:DD:RE:SS' then 'ifconfig eth0 netmask 255.255.255.0' then 'dhclient eth0'. Leaving this in a script with a link to 'gksu /sbin/net-start was a dirty hack, but dhclient did not repect the ifup/down's /etc/network/interfaces. Anyone know how |
| 09:35.44 | mopatop | scruffy: in /proc/modules: st 28888 0 (autoclean) (unused) |
| 09:35.44 | rikclark | to make these settings permanent and properly please? |
| 09:35.46 | Atula | I don't know.... I thought I read a headline on official openoffice 2 release |
| 09:35.47 | Zoo | I send ya all Star Office 8 :D |
| 09:36.14 | mhall | Atula: the official release have to be heavily hacked to run right on a Debian box |
| 09:36.15 | mopatop | scruffy: is there a generic tape driver or will I need to go googling for my tape drive's model number? |
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| 09:36.20 | Zoo | hee |
| 09:36.28 | mhall | Atula: if you look in debian experimental there are test ooo packages |
| 09:36.36 | Zoo | hey Atula |
| 09:36.36 | Gnea | Atula: was it? *checks* |
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| 09:36.40 | Atula | rikclark: have you used ifplugd, yet? |
| 09:36.41 | mhall | Atula: i'm hoping if i keep repeating this you will eventually get it |
| 09:36.48 | mhall | Atula: but it doesn't seem to be working |
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| 09:37.24 | rikclark | Atula: no, I'll check this out, thanks. |
| 09:37.31 | Zoo | atula |
| 09:37.40 | scruffy | mopatop: not entirely sure. If your SCSI adapter was picked up, I would assume (big assumption) that the tape would be ready. |
| 09:37.48 | Gnea | oh wow. |
| 09:37.49 | Zoo | the only other office suite I can think of blow open office org away is STar Office http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/get.jsp |
| 09:37.50 | Atula | I know I can get unstable debian and have all the packages I want.... but I was "wondering" if ooffice2 is part of the stable packages yet... that's all |
| 09:37.50 | kevix | mopatop: 'grep tape /dev/MAKEDEV' will show what it might be |
| 09:37.59 | mopatop | scruffy: perhaps |
| 09:38.10 | Gnea | Zoo: uhm, open office *IS* star office, only newer |
| 09:38.19 | Guerin | Atula: it won't be in sta ble for at least a year |
| 09:38.33 | Zoo | Star Office 8 will run nice on Debian 3.1 since it fits the kernel |
| 09:38.39 | Guerin | Atula: it'll be in unstable shortly, and in testing shortly after that, if it's not horribly broken |
| 09:38.40 | Atula | I think openoffice is the best opensource document manager.... well... words/text... stuff like that |
| 09:38.48 | Zoo | I used it when I first ran Xandros Business 2.0 a year ago. and some months |
| 09:38.50 | kevix | Atula: packages must go into unstable BEFORE they go into stable. so if they are not in unstable, they can be in stable. |
| 09:38.56 | Zoo | nope Atula |
| 09:39.05 | Atula | hm... alright. |
| 09:39.07 | Zoo | STar Office 7 was my first |
| 09:39.08 | Atula | just wondering :) |
| 09:39.11 | scruffy | mopatop: WAG, see what `dmesg | grep -i tape` says, if anything |
| 09:39.17 | Atula | good night.... back to my midterm review.... |
| 09:39.17 | Gnea | Atula: it might get backported soon |
| 09:39.18 | Zoo | you can do powerpoint type presentations and all |
| 09:39.27 | Zoo | all kinds of stuff |
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| 09:39.34 | mopatop | scruffy: nothing |
| 09:39.35 | solata | hello |
| 09:39.36 | mhall | Gnea: it's guaranteed to get a backport |
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| 09:39.43 | mhall | Gnea: it's way too good not to |
| 09:39.49 | Gnea | mhall: oh hell yeah |
| 09:39.55 | solata | hmmm .... libapache2-php4 doesnt include mysql extension right ? how can i add it ? |
| 09:39.57 | mhall | Gnea: i'm using the experimental debs and there are some sux0r bugs |
| 09:40.05 | Atula | Zoo: I'm all set with open office now.... just curious on what version 2 of it would be like.... but I don't want the "testing" tag on my debian box |
| 09:40.08 | mhall | Gnea: but on the whole it rocks the casbah to its very core |
| 09:40.08 | Zoo | only thing why I like open office org though. it doens't take up that much resources like Star Office does. because pretty much STar office is a clone of windows office |
| 09:40.18 | scruffy | mopatop: you could actually try mounting the tape using /dev/st0 as the device and see what happens (might need a tape in there) |
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| 09:40.26 | mhall | Gnea: to the point where the foundation is bordering on total structural failure |
| 09:40.30 | Zoo | i understand completely Atula |
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| 09:40.39 | mopatop | kevix: /dev/st[0-9] and /dev/nst[0-9] apparently, I don't think any of them are valid devices though, I don't think the tape module is loaded |
| 09:40.40 | Gnea | mhall: as usual |
| 09:41.05 | Zoo | k.. so peeps.. all ready to go I think |
| 09:41.09 | Zoo | what should I enter at boot then |
| 09:41.10 | rikclark | Atula: Can I set up a fake network interface to play about with ifplugd? |
| 09:41.16 | solata | anyone ? |
| 09:41.27 | scruffy | mopatop: look in your .config for the lines following # SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM) |
| 09:41.40 | nailbiter | solata: The MySQL extension is in the 'php4-mysql' package |
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| 09:41.53 | scruffy | mopatop: .config being the kernel config under /boot |
| 09:41.55 | solata | nailbiter, hmmm ... i have that installed too |
| 09:42.01 | solata | but .... mail.e-muha.org |
| 09:42.03 | robin_sz | ok, so as the installer auto-partitioned whatever it saw, I saw it do "setting up software raid" .. but how can I be sure it is running RAID, as I see no /etc/raidtab |
| 09:42.05 | Zoo | btw so who is this peter avin. I am doing a google on him |
| 09:42.07 | mopatop | scruffy: /dev/st0 is not a block device, and my kernel was built The Debian Way so I think it probably built all modules |
| 09:42.08 | solata | i get error ... on mysql_connect |
| 09:42.22 | nailbiter | solata: Check that /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini contains a line like 'extension=mysql.so' |
| 09:42.24 | Zoo | he makes builds of systems? |
| 09:42.36 | nailbiter | solata: The post-install scripts are buggy and sometimes miss adding that |
| 09:42.37 | liable | robin_sz: cat /proc/mdstat |
| 09:42.51 | robin_sz | ah ha |
| 09:42.59 | Zoo | Gnea |
| 09:43.00 | scruffy | mopatop: .config* might give you some hints about what module you may need |
| 09:43.24 | Zoo | okay mhall, Guerin, no hard feelins pimps |
| 09:43.33 | Zoo | I won't bother after I get this dam resolution |
| 09:43.38 | robin_sz | liable, as suspected .. no such file, thus probably no raid ... |
| 09:43.44 | mhall | Gnea: it loads 2x so fast as 1.x.x |
| 09:43.46 | kevix | mopatop: is the 'st' module loaded? |
| 09:43.46 | mopatop | scruffy: in /boot/config-2.4.27-2-k7 I see CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD CONFIG_SD_EXTRA_DEVS CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR |
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| 09:44.02 | mhall | Gnea: and the interface is more deluxe than a playboy model |
| 09:44.03 | mopatop | kevix: st 28888 0 (autoclean) (unused) |
| 09:44.08 | Zoo | :| |
| 09:44.08 | liable | robin_sz: if you did it right at install, look in fstab, and see what device / is on. |
| 09:44.13 | mopatop | kevix: scsi_mod 94596 4 [sr_mod st sd_mod ide-scsi] |
| 09:44.21 | rikclark | Thanks Atula, I will figure it out. |
| 09:44.25 | rikclark | exit |
| 09:44.29 | Zoo | dam I need to stop running acs on trillian |
| 09:44.31 | kevix | mopatop: what type is your drive? |
| 09:44.36 | robin_sz | liable, its one of these poxy intel ICH5-R "hardware" raid things .. sort of software raid at the BIOS level |
| 09:44.40 | scruffy | mopatop: I'm guessing CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is set to Y since you have those devs. |
| 09:44.59 | mopatop | kevix: type? it has "DDS-II" written on the side, it's a freecom |
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| 09:45.21 | Zoo | grrrrrrrrr!!!! I just want to get Debian to boot without no bogus 800x600!!! dam I am not blind.. I can see very good. and like high res! |
| 09:45.29 | mopatop | scruffy: it's a module |
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| 09:45.49 | mopatop | scruffy: but I think it may have been loaded by discover when it recognised the scsi card |
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| 09:45.59 | scruffy | mopatop: and st is loaded, I see.. |
| 09:46.06 | liable | robin_sz: thats supported iirc, check here.. http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html |
| 09:46.14 | eps | I'm currently using the nvsound (nvidia offical) sound driver which is oss based, I want to switch away from oss to alsa though after running alsaconf a few times this doesn't seem to take effect...how do I remove the nvsound driver and force the use of alsa (with the default nvidia sound driver from alsa people) |
| 09:46.15 | scruffy | mopatop: and nothing is using it.. hrm |
| 09:46.19 | mopatop | scruffy: my scsi subsystem is loaded and working properly, but there's no mention of a tape drive anywhere and st is loaded but claims it is "unused" |
| 09:46.20 | ndee | when I exeucte dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, I go thru all the steps, and enter also the fully qualified domain name. Now, one server rejects the emails with the message: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname. When I check the log file, my server executes the helo command not with the value I've entered in the exim4-config, any way how I can set that value, so that it takes the value from exim4-config? |
| 09:46.25 | Zoo | k.. I am just going take a guess at the vertical sync and horizontal sync rates :) |
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| 09:47.12 | nailbiter | Zoo: If you can query your monitor for them, try that first |
| 09:47.22 | mopatop | scruffy: lsdev mentions nothing about a tape drive or scsi |
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| 09:47.30 | robin_sz | liable . thanks looking |
| 09:47.33 | Zoo | can't |
| 09:47.39 | nailbiter | Zoo: Monitor too old? |
| 09:47.42 | scruffy | mopatop: I guess that means there is a module you need for your tape drive and it will use st. Er, what brand is the drive? |
| 09:47.45 | mopatop | scruffy: we're searching for the manual now to see if I can get some drivers |
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| 09:48.15 | Zoo | even called Acer. and the dam representatives shouldn't even be reps!!!! >_< just got this dam notebook.. dam I need to install debian on my workstation. not my laptop....arghhh!!!! |
| 09:48.21 | scruffy | mopatop: blind leading the blind here. :) |
| 09:48.23 | mopatop | scruffy: it's a freecom classic, googling now |
| 09:48.25 | mopatop | lol |
| 09:48.40 | Zoo | and its a motha funkin VESA,, Crystal Bright. what the funk a dam PLasma screen for any dam way |
| 09:48.54 | Zoo | if its 800x600 |
| 09:48.55 | spdf | Zoo, Dude. |
| 09:49.05 | Zoo | i"m going give it to the funkin poor and put windows on it |
| 09:49.16 | Zoo | what I enter at boot :) |
| 09:49.21 | spdf | Zoo, for what? |
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| 09:49.24 | Zoo | what was I heard about that linux26 |
| 09:49.26 | scruffy | mopatop: worst case scenario, you'd download the kernel source, use xconfig to poke around and figure out what module the tape drive might need. |
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| 09:49.27 | Zoo | ? |
| 09:49.40 | Zoo | thanks.. I am at .. |
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| 09:49.41 | spdf | Zoo, linux26 vga=318 try that |
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| 09:49.50 | gr8ron | Zoo: where is this dam? |
| 09:49.50 | Zoo | Press F1 for help, or ENTER to boot: |
| 09:50.03 | Zoo | its my way of saying. damn |
| 09:50.05 | mopatop | scruffy: okay cheers, I'll keep that in mind |
| 09:50.06 | idis | hi, where can i find more info on package trust and how apt/aptitude handles it? |
| 09:50.18 | Zoo | 318? |
| 09:50.25 | liable | excuse me? |
| 09:50.27 | spdf | Zoo, gives you a larger text resolution for the console.. |
| 09:50.31 | Zoo | I listenin to ya spdf |
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| 09:50.40 | Zoo | you mean... |
| 09:50.42 | Zoo | blows it up :D |
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| 09:50.52 | liable | !tell idis about apt-secure |
| 09:50.53 | mhall | !annoy Zoo |
| 09:50.56 | spdf | Zoo, That's exactly what it does. |
| 09:50.58 | Zoo | I want higher pixels ! :D |
| 09:51.05 | scruffy | mopatop: (the advanced description of a feature should also tell you the module name of any given one) |
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| 09:51.20 | mhall | ~annoy Zoo |
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| 09:51.31 | Zoo | :) |
| 09:51.33 | idis | thx liable |
| 09:51.34 | mopatop | scruffy: cheers |
| 09:51.41 | Zoo | oh that really gets me.. cough :) |
| 09:51.53 | Zoo | nothing more annoying me . than dang debian right now though :) |
| 09:51.59 | Zoo | ;) |
| 09:52.03 | mhall | lol |
| 09:52.05 | liable | !irritate Zoo |
| 09:52.06 | dpkg | Zoo: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses cable hello? |
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| 09:52.18 | mhall | liable: i wondered which of those actually worked |
| 09:52.23 | spdf | @annoy Zoo |
| 09:52.24 | ravenbird | Zoo: bash: FFS: command not found!!!!! |
| 09:52.26 | mhall | floe: guten tag |
| 09:52.29 | Guerin | liable: watch out, he'll ignore you if you make him sad |
| 09:52.33 | Zoo | sorry. don't use the clients you use :) |
| 09:52.46 | spdf | Zoo, Are you in the installer yet? |
| 09:52.55 | Zoo | if you using acespy. or maybe phlak. then maybe you can take screenshot of my system if you can get in :) |
| 09:52.57 | liable | Guerin: sweet :) |
| 09:53.10 | Zoo | yep |
| 09:53.14 | Zoo | I am spoopin |
| 09:53.17 | Zoo | spdf |
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| 09:53.21 | spdf | spoopin'? |
| 09:53.31 | spdf | Is that like.. short for smelly poopin'? |
| 09:53.38 | Zoo | like I said.. I won't be here m8 after I get resolution. but I will send ya a post card with some strippers ;) |
| 09:53.48 | spdf | Sweet. Strippers. |
| 09:53.53 | Zoo | cough.. |
| 09:54.01 | mhall | hack |
| 09:54.03 | spdf | They'd better be fat as hell. |
| 09:54.05 | Zoo | I don't need the net. .but sometimes.. its nice to have cool people :) |
| 09:54.13 | Zoo | cough :) |
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| 09:54.24 | mhall | The_Vulture: hey you're back |
| 09:54.30 | mhall | The_Vulture: how did the MS thing go |
| 09:54.30 | Zoo | want to know what rhymes with hack? |
| 09:54.39 | Zoo | phlak 8-) |
| 09:54.47 | Zoo | morphix! |
| 09:54.52 | Zoo | built on! what? |
| 09:54.56 | Zoo | debian :) |
| 09:55.13 | Zoo | eh go ahead. won't bother me.. not alive |
| 09:55.26 | The_Vulture | mhall: well not too bad - I interviewed with everyone there was to interview with, 2-6:30pm. Didn't answer perfectly to everything - but given the situation I don't think it went too badly |
| 09:55.34 | mhall | yeah one of my friends uses that excuse |
| 09:55.40 | Zoo | anyways spdf |
| 09:55.49 | mhall | so then we always tell him, that's alright. we dug her up. |
| 09:55.53 | mhall | ;-) |
| 09:56.10 | mhall | The_Vulture: good glad to hear it |
| 09:56.11 | Zoo | so then I say.. like you'll matter in 5 years.. or 3 when I'm in chicago :) |
| 09:56.31 | Zoo | k.. ready spdf |
| 09:56.36 | spdf | Ready for what? |
| 09:56.41 | Zoo | for boot commands |
| 09:56.57 | spdf | Zoo, linux26 vga=318 |
| 09:57.01 | Zoo | finally ready to get with the program |
| 09:57.03 | The_Vulture | mhall: I also pointed out that I kind of need a quick response since my offer from IBM expires next Wednesday, so they were cool about that and I should hear back in time for that to work out |
| 09:57.16 | spdf | Zoo, You might need 'noapm' and 'noacpi' too.. depends.. |
| 09:57.24 | Zoo | erm |
| 09:57.34 | Tidus | debian 'etch' isn't too bad |
| 09:57.42 | Zoo | couldn't we put it at? |
| 09:57.46 | Zoo | 1280? |
| 09:57.58 | Zoo | vga=1280x800? |
| 09:57.59 | spdf | Zoo, that line won't affect your resolution in X.. |
| 09:58.06 | Zoo | dam |
| 09:58.12 | spdf | Zoo, You set that later.. |
| 09:58.15 | Zoo | I'll be a son of a biatch |
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| 09:58.56 | Zoo | so why the 318? |
| 09:59.20 | Zoo | it looks pretty cool now.. is it going blow it up like a magnefine glass where I have to get a gun. then shoot my notebook :D |
| 09:59.21 | spdf | Zoo, it'll give you a console at 1024x768x16.. it'll look decent.. easier to read.. more on the screen.. |
| 09:59.24 | mhall | Zoo: the vga argument to the kernel takes video mode numbers |
| 09:59.37 | mhall | Zoo: instead of regular resolutions and stuff like X does |
| 09:59.39 | Zoo | :O.... cool then :D :D :D |
| 09:59.48 | mhall | Zoo: kernel video modes are a little... strange |
| 10:00.03 | mhall | Zoo: nobody really understands them too well except kernel developers ;-) |
| 10:00.06 | Zoo | lmfao |
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| 10:00.12 | kevix | Zoo: no one like 80x25 on the console! |
| 10:00.18 | Zoo | I got this before lmfao when I tried to put knoppix on my dads system |
| 10:00.22 | Tidus | kevix: i'm stuck on that lol |
| 10:00.27 | spdf | Zoo, got what? |
| 10:00.28 | Zoo | You passed an undefinded mode number |
| 10:00.35 | spdf | Zoo, ahh.. might actually be vga=0x318 |
| 10:00.36 | Tidus | my old laptop doesn't support frame buffers before X starts |
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| 10:00.41 | Zoo | Press <return yadada |
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| 10:00.52 | spdf | Zoo, restart.. try again with 0x318 |
| 10:00.53 | Zoo | this isn't old lmfaoooo |
| 10:00.57 | mrverbose | debian installer has a bug, it refuses to install initrd-tools |
| 10:01.01 | spdf | That's a lot of off. |
| 10:01.09 | Zoo | Peter Avin I am going kick ya arse lmao |
| 10:01.19 | Zoo | :D |
| 10:01.19 | mrverbose | so installation is futile |
| 10:01.26 | Tidus | spdf: the vga argument takes either a hexadecimal number in the form of 0x??? or if you were to convert that number to decimal you can omit the 0x |
| 10:01.30 | Zoo | I afraid of what to try lmfao |
| 10:01.41 | kevix | I'm using 792! |
| 10:01.44 | spdf | Zoo, It won't break anything. |
| 10:01.46 | Zoo | oh.. seem like Tidus kind of cool like you spdf :) |
| 10:01.58 | Zoo | 8-) |
| 10:02.06 | Tidus | Zoo: lol |
| 10:02.16 | mrverbose | is there a way to fix that problem online? |
| 10:02.18 | Zoo | yep.. already got bad rep Tidus. and this my first nite here |
| 10:02.38 | Zoo | and I'm just trying to get a good install with a dam good resolution |
| 10:02.40 | spdf | mrverbose, Any reason why its refusing? |
| 10:02.55 | spdf | Zoo, Well, lets do that. |
| 10:03.08 | spdf | mrverbose, Be a little more verbose ;) (SNAP!). What's the error? |
| 10:03.09 | Zoo | vga=0x318? |
| 10:03.20 | spdf | zoo, Yep. |
| 10:03.22 | Zoo | boot: linux26 vga=0x318 |
| 10:03.27 | spdf | Zoo, Give'r. |
| 10:03.28 | Zoo | ? |
| 10:03.31 | Zoo | :P |
| 10:03.41 | kevix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.43 | mrverbose | an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the system |
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| 10:04.00 | Zoo | didn't give me no errors :D |
| 10:04.07 | Zoo | now I at language :D |
| 10:04.18 | mrverbose | and syslog says:apt-install: E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes |
| 10:04.23 | spdf | Zoo, So. Pick your language. |
| 10:04.24 | Zoo | i been here before. been into install. did everything. just don't want my dam gui at 800x600 |
| 10:04.39 | spdf | Zoo. Well, Install your shit, and then we'll get you 1280x800... |
| 10:04.45 | Zoo | lmfao |
| 10:04.48 | Zoo | I hope so lmfaoooo :D |
| 10:04.54 | kevix | mrverbose: you should have a basic system? no. just install the pacakge? |
| 10:04.56 | Zoo | you won't here me talkin for a while :D :D :D |
| 10:05.03 | sep | Zoo, you are aware that the X resolution is totaly independent from your console |
| 10:05.11 | Zoo | yep |
| 10:05.12 | mrverbose | kevix: i do not know what else is missing |
| 10:05.21 | sep | and if you installed it already why are you doing it again ? |
| 10:05.22 | Zoo | I'm not that noob to computing environments lmfao |
| 10:05.32 | Zoo | sep |
| 10:05.40 | Zoo | no need for me to reply :) |
| 10:05.44 | mrverbose | dunno when initrd tools are installed exactly |
| 10:06.03 | Zoo | I been messin with pc bsd and it wouldn't read my dam keyboard!!! and I liked the speed though!!! arghhh!! |
| 10:06.05 | nvz | I need something to play with for 8 hours a day at work until I get myself a laptop :P I am looking at the Gameboy line and out of the thousands of titles none of the games seem interesting to me :P I dont much care for video games |
| 10:06.17 | kevix | mrverbose: apt-get -f install |
| 10:06.24 | Zoo | hee |
| 10:06.31 | Zoo | nvz |
| 10:06.39 | sep | Zoo, sorry but your lastlog was so long i coudnt find the reason you needed to reinstall.. type less :) |
| 10:06.41 | spdf | nvz, A Gameboy SP and a flash cartridge... |
| 10:06.41 | Zoo | make sure you don't get you a ... Acer Aspire :P |
| 10:06.51 | spdf | nvz, That got me through four months of nights before I bought a laptop.. |
| 10:06.53 | mrverbose | kevix: apt-get is not yet available |
| 10:07.11 | Zoo | look for which the best notebook for debian to run on :D |
| 10:07.16 | Zoo | cough :) |
| 10:07.35 | spdf | nvz, Just loaded up roms on the cartridge. Didn't cost me anything when I didn't like a game.. |
| 10:07.47 | mrverbose | unfortunately it doesnt let me continue with the other packages that didnt fail, even after i did install the intrd-tools by force |
| 10:07.59 | Zoo | :) |
| 10:08.11 | Zoo | it ask for hostname |
| 10:08.20 | Zoo | hm |
| 10:08.29 | Zoo | I wonder why the heck it is saying.. knoppix.. |
| 10:08.34 | Zoo | :O |
| 10:08.41 | spdf | Zoo, You've done this before.. right? |
| 10:08.43 | kevix | mrverbose: you should be able to download the apt pacakage and use dpkg -i |
| 10:08.44 | Zoo | I wonder who on ma connection :D |
| 10:08.47 | nvz | I plan on buying at this point an Apple iBook G3 Nov 3rd. I could have bought that Zaurus SL-5500 right now for about $150 but I started looking at the SL-C3100 and got me drooling with the possibilities.. so I started looking for something that could be that portable and do more for less than the $650 they wanted for it.. and I can get a damn iBook for around $400 |
| 10:08.57 | Zoo | yep.. lol |
| 10:09.18 | mrverbose | kevix: well, yes, if i alread had network configured |
| 10:09.40 | Zoo | I know I can choose what name I want it to have. could say.. zoolinux if I wanted for host |
| 10:09.49 | Zoo | lol |
| 10:09.50 | spdf | Zoo, sure. If that's what you wanted.. |
| 10:09.58 | Zoo | but I'm not :) |
| 10:10.08 | Zoo | domain name |
| 10:10.16 | Zoo | dang it |
| 10:10.23 | kevix | mrverbose: do you have another machine on the net, just burn it to a cd and use that. |
| 10:10.31 | robin_sz | 3rd stupid question of the day, what package provided bunzip2? |
| 10:10.38 | spdf | robin_sz, bzip2 |
| 10:10.44 | robin_sz | ah ha! |
| 10:10.46 | kevix | robin_sz: bzip ? |
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| 10:10.49 | The_Vulture | robin_sz: try packages.debian.org or apt-cache search |
| 10:10.59 | nvz | the gameboy advance you can get $19.00 preowned at gamestop but its not even worth that to me. the games all seem to suck. even when I do play games I only really get into it when I am playing with someone who has more intelligence than a Zilog Z80 with a rom cartridge |
| 10:11.00 | spdf | robin_sz, possibly no 2.. I'm tired.. |
| 10:11.01 | mrverbose | kevix: i can forget that, grub is also missing |
| 10:11.22 | robin_sz | The_Vulture, apt-cache searc was the first thing I tried, and no, it doesnt find it. |
| 10:11.29 | Zoo | I think I am going blow out my network.. and then come back |
| 10:11.35 | spdf | nvz, With the flast carts you can play nes and most snes roms too.. |
| 10:11.36 | scruffy | robin_sz: try dlocate bunzip2 |
| 10:11.40 | widrone | mrverbose: Where did you install from anyway? And is this sarge install? |
| 10:11.43 | mrverbose | i need either a working install-cd or more likely another os |
| 10:11.53 | nvz | spdf: oh boy :P |
| 10:11.56 | mrverbose | widrone: nope, its etch installcd |
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| 10:12.17 | Zoo | spdf |
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| 10:12.26 | Zoo | cya in a few minutes or so |
| 10:12.27 | robin_sz | it was in bzip2, im just curious why apt-cache search failed to find it ... |
| 10:12.29 | Tidus | mrverbose: i installed etch with a network install |
| 10:12.33 | Zoo | I am going reset my internet gateway |
| 10:12.41 | spdf | Zoo, Aight. Have fun. |
| 10:12.43 | Tidus | i got the 40MB business card iso and did a network install for the rest |
| 10:12.58 | mrverbose | Tidus: i would, however i need a setup cdrom |
| 10:13.00 | kevix | mrverbose: you NEED apt-get first. you should have lilo. and a livecd just in case. |
| 10:13.04 | mrverbose | because i have no floppy |
| 10:13.07 | scruffy | robin_sz: `apt-cache search bzip2` did give you any result? |
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| 10:13.17 | nvz | I need a new hobby in a hurry its boring sitting around all night long watching robots :P |
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| 10:13.23 | Tidus | mrverbose: do you have a decent enough net connection that can pull an install in a decent amount of time? |
| 10:13.25 | Zoo | cya all in a few.. thanks spdf |
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| 10:13.45 | nvz | if they would just give men an IRC connection I would be set :P |
| 10:13.52 | mrverbose | Tidus: if i set it up before installing, yes |
| 10:13.52 | kevix | mrverbose: you are probably better off burning the 1st cd from sarge and using that to install. |
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| 10:14.21 | mrverbose | i'd do an ftp install, if there was a cd bootimage for that... |
| 10:14.26 | Tidus | mrverbose: i did the network install from the bootable business card iso. it'll setup networking before it even tries to do the rest |
| 10:14.31 | nvz | or let me tunnel home through ssh :P |
| 10:14.48 | Phenox | i've a problem printing on shared windows printers. i set up the printer with "lpadmin -p TEST -v smb://<server>/<share> -P laserjet.ppd" /usr/bin/enable TEST /usr/sbin/accept TEST. but if i send a file to the printer via lp test.txt nothing happens. Any idea? |
| 10:14.59 | Tidus | mrverbose: what i did was in effect an FTP install |
| 10:15.05 | kevix | robin_sz: dpkg -S bzip2 (if you have it installed) apt-file search bzip2 (if you do not) |
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| 10:16.56 | scruffy | Phenox: not sure about your problem, but have you been here? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/ |
| 10:17.43 | mrverbose | i'll try that |
| 10:18.36 | Phenox | scruffy: yes, i did exactly the same as described there |
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| 10:20.04 | syntaxx | how can i change the font in fbdesk? |
| 10:21.29 | RelatoreEsterno1 | Do you know the new copyright system ? http://forumfsa.altervista.org/Copysoft.html |
| 10:21.38 | RelatoreEsterno1 | kill copyright software :( |
| 10:21.39 | kevix | syntaxx: is there a man page ? |
| 10:22.18 | kevix | RelatoreEsterno1: not without a fight! |
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| 10:23.08 | syntaxx | kevix, yeah there is but it doesnt show the font and when i check fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbdesk same as the man page/README |
| 10:23.36 | RelatoreEsterno1 | fight for it |
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| 10:23.52 | RelatoreEsterno1 | software's copyright is bad |
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| 10:24.08 | kevix | syntaxx: oh well. I dont use flux now. so cant check on my system. good luck! |
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| 10:24.40 | Zoo | back |
| 10:24.41 | robin_sz | gah, why does this debian not have Outlook Express? |
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| 10:24.52 | kevix | RelatoreEsterno1: actually, no. copyright allows copyleft to exist! |
| 10:24.59 | spdf | robin_sz, That's just crazy talk... |
| 10:25.09 | Zoo | evolution |
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| 10:25.20 | widrone | robin_sz: No source so you cant compile it yourself, maybe use wine? |
| 10:25.22 | kevix | robin_sz: its called evolution! |
| 10:25.33 | Zoo | told em |
| 10:25.49 | Zoo | Robin. use Xandros.. |
| 10:25.52 | scruffy | Phenox: nothing of note in /var/log? |
| 10:26.12 | kevix | Zoo: sorry some of us are at sub-warp speed! |
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| 10:26.17 | Zoo | Xandros is pretty much the easiest and more open than linspire switch from windows.. |
| 10:26.21 | Zoo | I am as well kevix |
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| 10:26.30 | Zoo | did you see me say |
| 10:26.37 | Zoo | <spdf> robin_sz, That's just crazy talk... |
| 10:26.37 | Zoo | <Zoo> evolution |
| 10:26.44 | robin_sz | perhaps I can just copy the .exe? |
| 10:26.48 | nvz | looks like I am gonna have to find a really interesting book to read for now. might as well go pay the library that $0.20 I owe them |
| 10:26.57 | Zoo | lol |
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| 10:27.06 | Zoo | I got alot if you want |
| 10:27.09 | Tidus | robin_sz: windows executables don't like to run on linux |
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| 10:27.21 | Zoo | only with CodeWeavers Cross Over |
| 10:27.27 | kevix | nvz: but now a days people listen to PODCASTS! |
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| 10:27.39 | Zoo | for a majority part. but you do'nt get the full affect |
| 10:27.45 | nvz | bob2: get some join spam there? |
| 10:28.03 | Zoo | k spdf.. network all reset.. new Internet Protocols and everything obtained.. clean fresh connection |
| 10:28.08 | bob2 | a hunch. |
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| 10:30.01 | nvz | the clock drift is getting worse in here. now I got 6:29 on one and 6:15 on the other |
| 10:30.10 | nvz | I think this one has ntp so its probably right |
| 10:30.14 | Zoo | I got 5:30 am |
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| 10:30.25 | nvz | yeah then this one is right I guess |
| 10:30.33 | nvz | the other is 15 minutes off |
| 10:31.11 | Zoo | man I swear |
| 10:31.16 | Zoo | NOvell thinks there so rockin.. |
| 10:31.37 | Zoo | if it wasn't for the BSD programmers. they would be lost :) |
| 10:31.42 | Tidus | Mon Oct 24 05:31:41 CDT 2005 |
| 10:31.45 | Tidus | ntp set |
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| 10:32.00 | nvz | Mon Oct 24 06:31:53 EDT 2005 |
| 10:32.18 | Zoo | okay all |
| 10:32.21 | Phenox | scruffy: i checked /var/log once again with no result |
| 10:32.23 | Zoo | back to the screen |
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| 10:32.50 | tarzeau | wtf, why do i get a Password: when i install cups-pdf ? |
| 10:32.52 | Zoo | anyone ready to help a super ambition person. who just would like to get 1280 x 800 on his notebook :) |
| 10:32.55 | tarzeau | chfn: PAM authentication failed |
| 10:32.55 | tarzeau | adduser: `/usr/bin/chfn -f Anonymous Samba PDF printer cups-pdf' returned error code 1. Aborting. |
| 10:33.22 | bob2 | haha forgetting to quote |
| 10:33.22 | nvz | kevix: yeah well I am behind the times, I dont watch tv, have an email address, a cell phone, a gps, or even know what a podcast is. |
| 10:33.35 | Zoo | lol |
| 10:33.39 | kevix | tarzeau: I got that recently after a sid update. |
| 10:33.45 | tarzeau | kevix: yes i'm on sid too |
| 10:33.47 | scruffy | Phenox: is the Windows machine using a firewall? You could try tethereal to see if the linux machine is attempting the request. |
| 10:33.49 | Zoo | kevix |
| 10:33.51 | tarzeau | kevix: what is your password? |
| 10:33.56 | kevix | Zoo: a plane ticket would be nice! |
| 10:34.05 | Zoo | hahaha |
| 10:34.10 | Zoo | where ya want to go :) |
| 10:34.14 | Jon_ | hi all... got a slight problem. WHenever I point any of my browsers to a download location they irretrievably crash. Any ideas how to solve it? (Debian - Galeon+Mozilla) |
| 10:34.20 | Zoo | I want to go to Bora Bora :) |
| 10:34.27 | tarzeau | Jon_: hahhaaha |
| 10:34.27 | Guerin | !drxx Zoo |
| 10:34.28 | dpkg | Zoo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 10:34.32 | tarzeau | Jon_: use wget |
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| 10:34.38 | Zoo | thanks Guerin :) |
| 10:34.43 | Jon_ | ah ok thakns tarzeau |
| 10:34.44 | kevix | tarzeau: vaclavhavel ! |
| 10:34.51 | bob2 | Jon_: does it affect other users? |
| 10:34.51 | Guerin | Zoo: oh, you unignored me. |
| 10:34.56 | bob2 | I have a theory it is profile fuckage |
| 10:34.59 | tarzeau | kevix: can you file the bug report? |
| 10:35.02 | Zoo | my bad for blowin uP :) |
| 10:35.03 | hanz | apt-get a new kernel should add the needed lines to lilo.conf, right? it doesent, why? |
| 10:35.05 | Jon_ | not entirely sure, I'm the only user on here |
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| 10:35.18 | kevix | Jon_: "dont do that" ! |
| 10:35.19 | Zoo | its just the net.. and were open source. why not be open minded ;) |
| 10:35.31 | Guerin | i find that, when you click a link and choose 'save', firefox only actually does about 50% of the time |
| 10:35.32 | bob2 | hanz: because /etc/lilo.conf poitns at symlinks, and the symlinks get changed when kernels get updated |
| 10:35.33 | Zoo | i'm at the boot installer |
| 10:35.39 | liable | hanz: no, grub is automagically done, lilo is not. |
| 10:35.51 | kevix | tarzeau: I am using cups, not cups-pdf |
| 10:35.53 | bob2 | Jon_: try creating a new user, logging in and trying to download omsething |
| 10:35.53 | Tidus | hanz: that's why the newer debian installs prefer grub over lilo |
| 10:36.06 | Zoo | I have installed quite a few linux systems and also.. PC BSD and ran some live cd's home use and school purposes. just havn't ran off pen drive yet |
| 10:36.07 | tarzeau | kevix: so you didn't get that password prompt? |
| 10:36.26 | Zoo | :- ) |
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| 10:36.41 | iss | hi |
| 10:36.50 | Zoo | heya |
| 10:36.52 | gr8ron | Zoo: but zoophilia is not the topic of this channel |
| 10:36.53 | kevix | tarzeau: yes. but I am not using the -pdf, just 'cups' |
| 10:37.00 | iss | I've got a thinkpad and want to use a pccard. |
| 10:37.05 | Zoo | Internet Security Systems! my favorite ! :D |
| 10:37.08 | iss | 0000:02:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller |
| 10:37.09 | tarzeau | kevix: which package gave you the prompt? it was cups-pdf here |
| 10:37.25 | iss | That's the cardbus controler. How do I load the appropriate modules? |
| 10:37.46 | liable | iss: but does the card that is installed need drivers? |
| 10:37.48 | Zoo | well.. I'm goin to guess at the sync rates ! :D |
| 10:37.50 | Tidus | iss: as root, just modprobe it. not entirely sure of the module name though |
| 10:38.10 | mrverbose | how can i upgrade to etch once sarge is installed? |
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| 10:38.14 | kevix | tarzeau: on, no , wait, that was lprm ! not cups. my bad! |
| 10:38.15 | Tidus | he's gotta get the cardbus controller going first |
| 10:38.28 | bob2 | mrverbose: /msg apt stable->testing |
| 10:38.43 | Phenox | scruffy: there's no firewall....but i'll try tethereal. can you give me the syntax to display the relevant packages? |
| 10:38.50 | Guerin | Zoo: hwinfo --monitor |
| 10:38.59 | iss | Tidus: How can i list all the modules avaible? |
| 10:39.07 | Zoo | and whats that mean Guerin |
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| 10:39.20 | Zoo | becaues I don't want to talk to the packager for debian.. tyvm :) |
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| 10:39.30 | Zoo | but I will talk to you.. :) |
| 10:39.32 | tarzeau | kevix: ah ok |
| 10:39.37 | Tidus | iss: ls -R /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ |
| 10:39.57 | Zoo | ' |
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| 10:40.01 | Zoo | :) |
| 10:40.02 | spdf | Zoo, mhall gave you the modeline you needed, awhile back.. I told you to write them down.. |
| 10:40.03 | Guerin | Zoo: suck it and see |
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| 10:40.18 | Guerin | oh, he's already decided not to help himself |
| 10:40.19 | Guerin | nice |
| 10:40.20 | Zoo | ahh crap.. guess I take look at book heee |
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| 10:40.42 | tarzeau | anyone got an idea why this ugly font was selected? i coudln't find anything in the mailheaders, but i do have frames characters copy pasted in that email http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/thunderbirdbug.png |
| 10:40.47 | spdf | Zoo.. Horiz is 31.5 toi 48.4 and Vert is 60... |
| 10:41.17 | scruffy | Phenox: I *think* you should be looking at port 515, so as root, `tethereal port 515`. Or `tethereal port not 194` for anything but irc. I think. |
| 10:41.35 | Blackgoth | I have a question, I let apt-get install openSSL, but for some strange reason Unrealircd wont use the libssl file, can i just download and compile openssl without removing it first? |
| 10:41.36 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: try western encoding |
| 10:41.45 | Phenox | scruffy: thx |
| 10:41.46 | scruffy | Phenox: *before* you try to print. |
| 10:41.56 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: the thing is, i didn't change the encoding, it was selected to that |
| 10:42.10 | Zoo | k |
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| 10:42.17 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: something changed it.... just try |
| 10:42.20 | Zoo | pick linux26 vga=0x318 right? |
| 10:42.24 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: western works, frames and ü look wrong |
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| 10:42.37 | Zoo | I remember things without a problem.. just askin :) |
| 10:42.40 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: i think thunderbird is just buggy |
| 10:42.47 | Zoo | k funk it |
| 10:43.04 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: hmmm... do other programms look wrong too ? |
| 10:43.11 | Zoo | here goes nuffin |
| 10:43.14 | kevix | Blackgoth: is 'Unrealircd' in debian? |
| 10:43.22 | Zoo | holy motha effin sweet sweet omggggggggg :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd |
| 10:43.24 | gsimmons | Your hax is teh suxx0r. |
| 10:43.25 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: no, mozilla -mail looked fine |
| 10:43.35 | Zoo | i luv you guys :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 10:43.46 | Zoo | guess what worked :DDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 10:43.56 | Blackgoth | kevix no im compiling it myself, i configged it to look for the libfile in the lib dir |
| 10:43.57 | Zoo | the linux26 vga=0x318 :D |
| 10:44.19 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: thunderbird uses a TT-font not installed on your PC. The replacment-font looks ugly. change the font ? |
| 10:44.26 | Zoo | dam I so motha funkin happy now with ma screen now I Don't feel like da laptop a piece of shite :D :D |
| 10:44.41 | Zoo | :D |
| 10:45.01 | kevix | Blackgoth: either find a way for it to use debian ssl, or ? dont think its good to have 2 ssl |
| 10:45.10 | Zoo | and yep ... |
| 10:45.16 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: why does it use a replacement font? i didn't tell it to. it didn't when i wrote the mail |
| 10:45.18 | syntaxx | is there somebody here already tried bootsplash and nvidia work? |
| 10:45.21 | buu | Isn't "blackgoth" a tad redundant? |
| 10:45.24 | Zoo | dsl.peoril.ameritech.net! |
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| 10:45.37 | Blackgoth | what do you mean buu? |
| 10:45.39 | Zoo | kevix.. the screen is nice!!! ;D |
| 10:45.51 | Zoo | a happy motha funker now :D |
| 10:46.01 | Zoo | k.. big question |
| 10:46.08 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: thunderbird can't use a font that is not installed. (xfs missing something...). And thunderbird can use different fonts for just about everything. |
| 10:46.10 | pingouin_ | what are *.mpc files ? how read them ? |
| 10:46.13 | Zoo | sorry for all the rush of an orgy of gettin debian how i want it |
| 10:46.30 | kevix | Zoo: I'm on a phat console! vga=792 |
| 10:46.33 | pumpkin0 | pingouin_: try "file <your-file>.mpc" |
| 10:46.45 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: why does it CHANGE THE FONT? it should use the font that it uses everywhere else |
| 10:46.51 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: not randomly pick another font |
| 10:46.56 | Guerin | !mpc |
| 10:46.56 | dpkg | [mpc] musepack, yet another audio compression routine. It's lgpl, and there's an xmms plugin and encode/decode utilities available - ask me about rarewares. |
| 10:47.00 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: no idea... |
| 10:47.06 | tarzeau | pumpkin0: i don't want it to use diffeerent fonts, it's a bug. |
| 10:47.09 | Zoo | The Disk can be partitioned using one of several different schemes. If you are unsure , choose the first one, Partitioning Scheme. |
| 10:47.20 | pingouin_ | !rarewares |
| 10:47.23 | Zoo | All files in one partition (recommended for new users) |
| 10:47.27 | Zoo | desktop machine |
| 10:47.32 | Zoo | multi-use workstation |
| 10:47.32 | Zoo | ? |
| 10:47.39 | Zoo | I chose All files. whats better though |
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| 10:47.50 | Zoo | those were last choices.. I doin all new now |
| 10:48.07 | Zoo | dam I sure luv the screen now.. I think things are going to go well |
| 10:48.15 | pingouin_ | ok thx guerin, pumpkin0 |
| 10:48.21 | Zoo | ? |
| 10:48.44 | kevix | Zoo: start with the easiest. you can reinstall once you get a better idea of partitioning for debian. |
| 10:48.57 | Zoo | I don't want to load any boot loader |
| 10:48.59 | Zoo | do I have to do that as well |
| 10:49.07 | Zoo | I just want the boot to go zoooom |
| 10:49.11 | Zoo | :D |
| 10:49.43 | kevix | Zoo: exactly how would you boot linux with out a bootloader? |
| 10:49.49 | Zoo | from cd :D |
| 10:49.54 | Zoo | it can be done :) |
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| 10:50.00 | Zoo | :P |
| 10:50.04 | Gnea | retawded. |
| 10:50.10 | Zoo | or from usb flash drive :D |
| 10:50.13 | kevix | Zoo: but the CD has a boot loader! |
| 10:50.14 | Zoo | ;) |
| 10:50.16 | pumpkin0 | Zoo: no Bootloader => no OS. Even CD's have bootloaders. |
| 10:50.22 | Zoo | oops :P |
| 10:50.37 | Gnea | Zoo: it boots fastest if you install a bootloader. |
| 10:50.47 | Gnea | fuckin' crackhead |
| 10:50.53 | Zoo | it boots fastest if you mount the sucker to a 1 gb of ram lmfao :D |
| 10:51.00 | Zoo | so beat that :D |
| 10:51.10 | kevix | Gnea: x-) |
| 10:51.15 | Zoo | hahahah :D |
| 10:51.21 | pumpkin0 | Zoo: i have installed such a setup. It is not the fastest way. |
| 10:51.24 | Gnea | heh |
| 10:51.31 | Zoo | you can't install to ram lmfao |
| 10:51.32 | Zoo | :D |
| 10:51.34 | hanz | where to find kernelmsg from last reboot? |
| 10:51.35 | Zoo | you mount :D |
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| 10:51.56 | Gnea | hanz: /var/log/ |
| 10:51.56 | pumpkin0 | Zoo: my initrd copies the compressed HD to ram and boots that. |
| 10:51.57 | spdf | Zoo.. Symantics.. |
| 10:52.04 | Zoo | ram is the fastes lol unless you got a super comp we don't know about eh? |
| 10:52.13 | hanz | Gnea: of course, where exactly. |
| 10:52.15 | kevix | hanz: /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/messages |
| 10:52.15 | Zoo | LOL |
| 10:52.28 | pumpkin0 | Zoo: the copy takes to long. |
| 10:52.33 | Zoo | ah |
| 10:52.37 | Zoo | tru |
| 10:52.42 | Zoo | :) |
| 10:52.47 | Zoo | I just luv spdf |
| 10:52.58 | Zoo | he's ma best debian friend now ;) |
| 10:52.59 | kevix | Zoo: intel is working on a new boot process -something like 'instant on' |
| 10:53.14 | Zoo | havn't did any studies on it. I luv AMD too much |
| 10:53.35 | pumpkin0 | Zoo: you can always susoend to ram. It's a 1-2 second "boot" |
| 10:53.38 | hanz | gnaah, someone wanting to help a lilo hater to adjust it right via privmsg? |
| 10:53.42 | Zoo | can? |
| 10:53.53 | Zoo | dam I got alot to learn still :D |
| 10:54.01 | Zoo | thanks pumpkin0 |
| 10:54.02 | glitch- | i cant setup two ipv6 tunnel brokers..i cant add two route's..one is default and second i dont know what i have to write..route -n add -inet6 -net local::/64 2001:470:1f01:ffff::e62 ..what does it mean local::/64 ? |
| 10:54.18 | liable | hanz: why not just use grub |
| 10:54.23 | Zoo | dam its like 50 or feel 45 in my room :| |
| 10:54.28 | Zoo | loft* |
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| 10:54.40 | Zoo | seee why I all crazy and shakin |
| 10:54.41 | pumpkin0 | zoo: try "echo -n 3 >/proc/acpi/sleep" |
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| 10:54.50 | hanz | liable: it is a remote box. grub misses the lilo -R |
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| 10:54.56 | Zoo | lol.. I don't even got debian installed again for the 4th try :P |
| 10:55.06 | kevix | Zoo: you do have heat? |
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| 10:55.11 | Zoo | nope |
| 10:55.40 | liable | hanz: whats lilo -rR do? |
| 10:55.46 | Zoo | k.. let it boot into Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-2-386 right buds? |
| 10:55.53 | liable | minus the r |
| 10:55.58 | Zoo | not recovery mode right. because that would stupid LOL |
| 10:56.04 | hanz | liable: it boots a new kernel and auto boot the default one if the new panics |
| 10:56.13 | deefzi | tough luck. tried to compile kernel, and it's still missing some ide drivers. have to go home and boot the server with the working kernel :p |
| 10:56.13 | Zoo | panics :P |
| 10:56.26 | Zoo | lol |
| 10:56.31 | liable | hanz: hrm, grub can do that iirc. |
| 10:56.32 | Zoo | want this book? |
| 10:56.45 | hanz | liable: really? |
| 10:56.45 | Zoo | (O'Reilly) - Understanding The Linux Kernel |
| 10:56.46 | kernel | im panicing! |
| 10:56.48 | iss | My card dooes not work, though i loaded yenta_socket and pcmcia_core |
| 10:57.00 | Zoo | 3.12 mb.. I will yousendit if you want |
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| 10:57.10 | Zoo | debhelper |
| 10:57.10 | Zoo | deefzi |
| 10:57.13 | Zoo | ? |
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| 10:57.15 | iss | This is the only thing i have to do according to several "Linux on R40"-pages. |
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| 10:57.37 | Zoo | be thankful all you don't have a cold place where you live |
| 10:57.42 | Zoo | and hot as hell when its in the summer |
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| 10:57.51 | Zoo | it gets over 100 in my loft.. |
| 10:57.55 | liable | hanz: i thought so. read the docs. |
| 10:58.00 | Zoo | deefzi |
| 10:58.01 | deefzi | Zoo, the computer's stalled on kernel panic so i can't get in connect with it :p |
| 10:58.03 | Zoo | (O'Reilly) - Understanding The Linux Kernel |
| 10:58.10 | Blackgoth | its 19 degrees here |
| 10:58.13 | Zoo | do you want |
| 10:58.26 | deefzi | no i don't. why would i? |
| 10:58.39 | Zoo | I go so many books its not even funny why I'm asking about debian. just the fact I want to get resolution because I got new laptop. and I not that far yet with linux and unix |
| 10:58.55 | Zoo | I have installed debian 3 times |
| 10:59.10 | Zoo | the first 2 times.. I couldn't even get it to boot into the graphical environment |
| 10:59.22 | Zoo | dam |
| 10:59.24 | deefzi | debian's a nasty one. have you tried ubuntu? |
| 10:59.29 | Zoo | my screen is lookin funkin awesome |
| 10:59.34 | Zoo | yes I have |
| 10:59.38 | Zoo | I dont' care to use it again |
| 10:59.45 | Zoo | Ubuntu is nothing but slow |
| 10:59.50 | asg | Zoo: then check at tuxmobile.org (see if you laptop is listed) |
| 11:00.04 | Zoo | debian has proven itself to me for its speed and opennesss.. and so has pc bsd |
| 11:00.04 | spdf | Zoo, when you say "funkin awesome", does that mean you're actually in X now, with the res you wanT? |
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| 11:00.25 | Zoo | I think it like saved the configuration thing |
| 11:00.36 | Zoo | I am setting root password now. havn't installed nothing yet |
| 11:00.42 | spdf | Oh.. I see.. |
| 11:00.46 | Zoo | spdf your so funkin awesome |
| 11:00.58 | spdf | I know. |
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| 11:01.19 | Zoo | can I enter .. open source |
| 11:01.22 | Zoo | for full name |
| 11:01.24 | kevix | Hope no one is in florida. its killer there! |
| 11:01.29 | Zoo | and just clint for my name. dont' funk nothing up do it |
| 11:01.34 | Zoo | I use to live there kevix |
| 11:01.35 | spdf | Typically that's the name of the user... |
| 11:01.43 | Zoo | so like. Clint, then clint |
| 11:01.45 | spdf | Florida's getting hit pretty hard 'eh? |
| 11:01.50 | spdf | Zoo, Sure.. |
| 11:01.53 | Gnea | Zoo: where do you live? |
| 11:01.54 | Zoo | I lived in bonifay |
| 11:02.01 | Zoo | IL |
| 11:02.02 | Gnea | where? |
| 11:02.03 | Gnea | ah |
| 11:02.05 | Zoo | fL |
| 11:02.12 | Gnea | where? |
| 11:02.12 | Zoo | sorry all I kind of crazy |
| 11:02.17 | Zoo | debian was stressin me out |
| 11:02.23 | Zoo | and I have been up for a while... |
| 11:02.25 | Gnea | you were stressin you out |
| 11:02.29 | Zoo | usually I dont' stay up this late |
| 11:02.38 | liable | just smoke some more crack Zoo |
| 11:02.49 | Zoo | i dont' smoke crack. your moma smokes crack :) |
| 11:02.58 | Zoo | i use to smoke da green :) |
| 11:03.10 | kevix | Zoo: amoung other things ... |
| 11:03.22 | Gnea | Zoo: you made the choice to live in the loft, quit yer bitchin' :) i used to live near milwaukee, i know how cold it gets there :P |
| 11:03.31 | Zoo | I can't help it.. I took the typin class :) |
| 11:03.42 | Zoo | maybe you should take 1 liable |
| 11:03.55 | Zoo | I can't wait to smoke you in power using konsole ! :D |
| 11:04.01 | Zoo | its going pay off :) |
| 11:04.06 | Gnea | you will never win. |
| 11:04.09 | Zoo | lmao |
| 11:04.17 | Gnea | it's true. |
| 11:04.19 | Zoo | I will create a program to dictate the dam commands lmfao |
| 11:04.25 | Zoo | fall off :) |
| 11:04.28 | Zoo | thats tru |
| 11:04.30 | Zoo | ;) |
| 11:04.31 | Gnea | you will create an ai? |
| 11:04.35 | Zoo | acs |
| 11:04.36 | asg | !tell Zoo about enter |
| 11:04.55 | Zoo | ok lol |
| 11:05.07 | Zoo | so whats best to use for Archive |
| 11:05.12 | kevix | oh well got to go. see ya in 20 hours! |
| 11:05.14 | Gnea | Zoo: do you know what an ai is? |
| 11:05.21 | Zoo | http, ftp, or edit sources by hand |
| 11:05.25 | pumpkin0 | Anybody here ever played with speedstep-centrino modding ? I'm thinking about lowering the voltage below the normal op-points. |
| 11:05.29 | Zoo | artificial INtelligence |
| 11:05.38 | Gnea | ah ok |
| 11:05.41 | Zoo | of course I do |
| 11:05.48 | Zoo | I have all kinds of books and programming on it |
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| 11:06.08 | kevix | Gnea: would he pass the turing test? |
| 11:06.09 | Zoo | Merlin is talking while you all say something. how the heck you think I know what to say next |
| 11:06.28 | Zoo | I can do that with pc bsd as well |
| 11:06.29 | pumpkin0 | kevix: no.... |
| 11:06.35 | Zoo | anyways though |
| 11:06.46 | Zoo | spdf |
| 11:06.47 | Gnea | kevix: i doubt it. |
| 11:07.00 | xtof | hi, how can I know which pci card is "connected" to eth0, eth1, eth2 ? |
| 11:07.02 | Zoo | well you all change as welll. thats what makes the world spin |
| 11:07.20 | pumpkin0 | xtof: ifconfig tells you the mac. |
| 11:07.23 | Gnea | change is constant. |
| 11:07.43 | Zoo | people |
| 11:07.50 | kevix | xtof: the mac address "/sbin/ifconfig" |
| 11:07.56 | Zoo | besides your insulting comments..w hats good to use.. http or ftp |
| 11:07.56 | scruffy | xtof: .. and arp -a should tell you the rest |
| 11:08.12 | scruffy | xtof: er, or all of it. :) |
| 11:08.12 | Gnea | you think i'm insulting you. |
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| 11:08.20 | Guerin | Zoo: whichever suits you best |
| 11:08.23 | Zoo | k |
| 11:08.30 | Zoo | what about |
| 11:08.32 | Guerin | Zoo: widhe |
| 11:08.34 | Zoo | edit sources list by hand |
| 11:08.40 | Zoo | would that take too long |
| 11:08.41 | Guerin | Zoo: does that suit you best? |
| 11:08.51 | pumpkin0 | kevix, Gnea: Zoo makes me think about http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/06/1227211&from=rss |
| 11:08.53 | Zoo | actually I got a suite :) |
| 11:09.15 | Gnea | a suite just to edit a text file? |
| 11:09.21 | Zoo | suit |
| 11:09.24 | Zoo | I meant |
| 11:09.30 | Zoo | ahh hell |
| 11:09.35 | Zoo | I'll just pick http |
| 11:09.36 | xtof | pumpkin0, kevix, scruffy, thanks! |
| 11:09.46 | Zoo | any awesome mirror country to use |
| 11:10.00 | Zoo | oh I forgot. whatever suites me best |
| 11:10.09 | Zoo | suits me best* |
| 11:10.16 | Guerin | Zoo: see, you're learning |
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| 11:10.35 | Guerin | Zoo: your next task is to not bother us with your meaningless stream-of-consciousness drivel |
| 11:10.35 | Zoo | I'll just google the dam thing. funk it |
| 11:10.41 | nvz | luagh now, cry later |
| 11:10.42 | Guerin | !widhe |
| 11:10.42 | dpkg | When In Doubt, Hit Enter |
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| 11:11.08 | nvz | suck to be you guys I am Having breakfast burritos again this morning |
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| 11:11.10 | xtof | hum, but my problem is that eth2 doesn't start anymore. So it's not in ifconfig... I can't remember how I configured that card long times ago... |
| 11:11.30 | kevix | pumpkin0: heh. how about the computer generated paper taht got accepted at a conference? |
| 11:11.41 | Zoo | hey kevix |
| 11:11.50 | Zoo | what would you pick for Mirro Country bud |
| 11:11.51 | Guerin | Zoo: you mean 'can cook well' |
| 11:12.01 | Guerin | Zoo: since 'good' is not something you can cook |
| 11:12.06 | Zoo | I am not playin symantics |
| 11:12.08 | Guerin | Zoo: what country are you in? |
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| 11:12.16 | Zoo | nor did I come to English 101 |
| 11:12.18 | liable | !yinzersmite Zoo |
| 11:12.20 | nvz | only this time I had the stuff on hand, and didnt have to wait for everyone to get out of bed so I could cook for them |
| 11:12.31 | Zoo | or choose to use any terminology |
| 11:12.35 | Zoo | thanks |
| 11:12.41 | Zoo | kevix |
| 11:12.41 | kevix | Zoo: us ? |
| 11:12.49 | Zoo | yep |
| 11:12.55 | Gnea | Zoo: wait wait wait - are you human? |
| 11:12.56 | pumpkin0 | kevix: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=106747&cid=9090705 |
| 11:13.03 | Guerin | Zoo: oh ... i have an idea |
| 11:13.11 | johaBBa | Zoo, Welcome to #debian. :) |
| 11:13.12 | Guerin | Zoo: what about ftp.us.debian.org ? |
| 11:13.24 | Guerin | Zoo: since THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE |
| 11:13.28 | nvz | I made way too much food for just me :P |
| 11:13.30 | pumpkin0 | xtof: is the card still visible in lspci -vv ? |
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| 11:14.11 | xtof | pumpkin0, yes... |
| 11:14.13 | tarzeau | why does thunderbird replace ö with \u9437 ? |
| 11:14.20 | Zoo | k.. now i don't have to listen to dpkg |
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| 11:14.47 | Zoo | what a relief |
| 11:14.57 | kevix | pumpkin0: all a british person needs is tea and Eliza! |
| 11:14.59 | Zoo | anyways kevix |
| 11:15.02 | asg | Zoo: ignoring our bot will prevent us from helping you |
| 11:15.06 | Gnea | Zoo: you can hear the words typed on the screen? |
| 11:15.06 | nvz | yep |
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| 11:15.23 | liable | moron. |
| 11:15.25 | kevix | tarzeau: utf-8 ? |
| 11:15.30 | pumpkin0 | xtof: what about the kernel-module ? loaded ? |
| 11:15.46 | Guerin | asg: there's no helping this one |
| 11:16.01 | asg | Guerin: nope |
| 11:16.04 | Zoo | peace.. at last |
| 11:16.12 | nvz | this is why the yinzersmite should be reserved for people who can find the humor in it :P |
| 11:16.23 | Gnea | Zoo: you have yet to answer my questions... |
| 11:16.27 | tarzeau | kevix: for some reason thunderbird changes the encoding to chinese |
| 11:16.36 | tarzeau | kevix: this is another mail from .tw |
| 11:16.36 | Zoo | hey tarzeau |
| 11:16.43 | kevix | tarzeau: sounds like a plot! |
| 11:16.48 | Gnea | Zoo: btw, i wasn't trying to be offensive |
| 11:16.51 | tarzeau | kevix: more like a bug |
| 11:16.59 | Zoo | any good advice on Mirror to use for Country for netinst |
| 11:17.09 | tarzeau | Zoo: depends where you live |
| 11:17.09 | Guerin | Zoo: USE THE FUCKING COUNTRY YOU ARE IN |
| 11:17.13 | Zoo | USA |
| 11:17.16 | tarzeau | Guerin: if it has an official mirror |
| 11:17.16 | Guerin | Zoo: THIS IS NOT COMPLICATED |
| 11:17.21 | Gnea | then use a USA mirror |
| 11:17.25 | tarzeau | Guerin: this guy is from USA! |
| 11:17.30 | Zoo | eh.. I will just use what I used before |
| 11:17.31 | Guerin | tarzeau: the USA doesn't have ANY official mirrors, dones it? |
| 11:17.35 | kevix | hasta la vista! |
| 11:17.36 | Zoo | pffftt |
| 11:17.40 | tarzeau | Guerin: they can't even get their coordinates right |
| 11:17.50 | Zoo | with World Wind I can |
| 11:17.52 | tarzeau | Guerin: i fucking don't care. i'm not in USA |
| 11:17.52 | Guerin | tarzeau: this guy appears not to be able to wipe his own arse |
| 11:17.54 | Zoo | and who is they :) |
| 11:18.00 | Zoo | Ansys :) |
| 11:18.06 | tarzeau | Zoo: so, what is it? |
| 11:18.11 | Zoo | nm |
| 11:18.14 | Guerin | tarzeau: or if he can, i'm surprised, since he's unable to complete similarly elementary tasks in here |
| 11:18.16 | Zoo | thats what it is :) |
| 11:18.27 | xtof | pumpkin0, lsmod doesn't tells me anything about kernel module ;-) I don't know which module to load for my card... How can I know that? |
| 11:18.44 | Zoo | hey kevix.. I am just going go with the flow m8 |
| 11:18.45 | tarzeau | Zoo: i'll help you, if you can solve http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian.png |
| 11:19.01 | Zoo | any good debian mirror I should use m8 |
| 11:19.20 | pumpkin0 | xtof: do you know which module the card needs ? Or do you know the chip on the card ? |
| 11:19.49 | iss | modules are installed in /lib/modules/2.6.12/net/ |
| 11:19.58 | valdyn | !m8 |
| 11:20.00 | iss | modprobe <name> does not load it... |
| 11:20.01 | Zoo | Thanks all for the help. etc.. tell spdf I appreciate that help |
| 11:20.03 | iss | what to do?? |
| 11:20.16 | iss | FATAL: Module ath_pci not found. |
| 11:20.26 | Guerin | iss: module doesn't exist |
| 11:20.31 | Guerin | iss: choose another one |
| 11:20.32 | iss | it exists: |
| 11:20.38 | iss | /lib/modules/2.6.12/net# ls ath_pci.ko |
| 11:20.39 | iss | ath_pci.ko |
| 11:20.40 | Guerin | iss: no, it doesn't |
| 11:20.51 | Guerin | iss: if it did, it wouldn't throw that error |
| 11:20.53 | iss | so why's there a file namend ath_pci? |
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| 11:20.55 | Zoo | hey iss. hope you get the problem fixed you need to get fixed |
| 11:20.56 | pumpkin0 | iss: "uname -r" ? |
| 11:21.06 | citral | iss: run depmod |
| 11:21.06 | Guerin | iss: modprobe is clearly looking elsewhere |
| 11:21.13 | iss | 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 11:21.16 | Gnea | Zoo: 209.132.177.50 is a good one |
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| 11:21.30 | Zoo | citral |
| 11:21.37 | citral | Zoo |
| 11:21.38 | tarzeau | Gnea: shudder |
| 11:21.42 | Zoo | you know what fast or good and stable debian mirror I can use |
| 11:21.44 | pumpkin0 | iss: the module has to be in /lib/modules/2.6.12-1/net |
| 11:21.45 | Guerin | iss: so look in /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686 |
| 11:21.47 | xtof | pumpkin0, I have one 3com Corporation 3c900 10BaseT, and one Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller, but I don't know wich one is already loaded as eth0 |
| 11:21.51 | valdyn | iss: cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/net ; ls |
| 11:21.54 | Guerin | Zoo: ftp.youareafucktard.net |
| 11:21.56 | Zoo | I am doing a 4th debian 3.1 netinst |
| 11:21.56 | citral | Zoo: where are you living? |
| 11:22.04 | tarzeau | Zoo: telnet linuks.mine.nu |
| 11:22.05 | Guerin | citral: don't bother |
| 11:22.06 | Zoo | United STates, Peoria, IL |
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| 11:22.22 | iss | thx, for help... |
| 11:22.22 | paulswm | Zoo: You are in Texas so use a US mirror from http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 11:22.39 | Zoo | thats where my isp servers are from lmfao |
| 11:22.48 | Zoo | I am not in texas lol |
| 11:22.53 | Guerin | Zoo: are you still ignoring me? |
| 11:22.56 | Zoo | chicago, peoria, and maybe south |
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| 11:23.02 | Zoo | but not in texas |
| 11:23.04 | Zoo | ;) |
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| 11:23.09 | paulswm | Zoo: You are in the US so use a US mirror and stop being such an ass |
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| 11:23.09 | pumpkin0 | xtof: though luck. If you connect the thing to a network: which one works ? |
| 11:23.27 | xtof | pumpkin0, I currently use eth0 to talk to you :-) |
| 11:23.30 | Zoo | I am talking about deiban mirror |
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| 11:23.42 | pumpkin0 | xtof: okkkaaaayy. wait a sec. |
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| 11:23.47 | citral | Zoo: learn to spell debian first |
| 11:23.49 | xtof | pumpkin0, oh. I understand what you meant. I'll look behind my computer |
| 11:23.53 | Zoo | debian |
| 11:23.58 | citral | better |
| 11:24.03 | Zoo | lol |
| 11:24.08 | Zoo | its called a typo |
| 11:24.11 | valdyn | !lol |
| 11:24.11 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 11:24.14 | Guerin | ~say Zoo: you must be |<------->| this smart to use debian. |
| 11:24.16 | apt | Zoo: you must be |<------->| this smart to use debian. |
| 11:24.19 | Zoo | :) |
| 11:24.34 | Zoo | if debian was smart.. why didnt' it put my resolution at a nice 1280x800 :) |
| 11:24.35 | Guerin | ~say Zoo: unfortunately, you appear to only be |<->| this smart |
| 11:24.36 | apt | Zoo: unfortunately, you appear to only be |<->| this smart |
| 11:24.45 | citral | Zoo: then what makes you think that that the default us ftp mirror is not good enough for you? |
| 11:24.54 | Zoo | hee |
| 11:25.16 | Zoo | just wondering because I chose ftp.debian.org and it disconnected from some host is all |
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| 11:25.38 | Zoo | ahh hell. I am going do.. ftp.us.debian.org |
| 11:25.41 | xtof | pumpkin0, I think eth0 is not the 3com, as it's the mainboard integrated card. And it seems to me that the card I plugged is a 3com... |
| 11:25.45 | mc68k | ? |
| 11:25.48 | Zoo | funk it |
| 11:25.53 | citral | Zoo: there you go. |
| 11:25.56 | pumpkin0 | xtof: one is "only" making 10MBit, right ? install/launch mii-tool and try to figure out which one is the 10MBit... |
| 11:26.25 | Zoo | dam my screen looks so dam nice. sorry to bother. after I get a couple things. I won't bother again. |
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| 11:26.38 | xtof | pumpkin0, mii-tool gives : SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Bad address <CR> no MII interfaces found... |
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| 11:26.55 | valdyn | xtof: use ethtool instead |
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| 11:27.13 | Zoo | k.. I shouldn't do manual package selection right? |
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| 11:27.33 | Zoo | funk it. going do Desktop Environment |
| 11:27.35 | valdyn | Zoo: you do what you want |
| 11:27.47 | Zoo | yep.. exactly |
| 11:27.56 | Zoo | holy shites I am smokin with speed |
| 11:28.02 | Zoo | I know nuffin :D |
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| 11:28.21 | xtof | pumpkin0, valdyn, ethtool eth0 : no data avalaible. for eth1 and eth2 : cannot get device settings : no such device... |
| 11:28.38 | Zoo | I got question |
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| 11:28.46 | pumpkin0 | xtof: what kernel are you running ? |
| 11:28.47 | Zoo | when I want to do. say |
| 11:28.54 | valdyn | xtof: bad luck, guess your driver is old enough to support neither |
| 11:28.55 | Zoo | sudo apt-get install discover |
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| 11:29.08 | xtof | pumpkin0, 2.6.10-1-686 |
| 11:29.09 | Zoo | how can I set it. so that it won't check to download it |
| 11:29.21 | xtof | valdyn, but everything worked until I did a init 6!! |
| 11:29.28 | Zoo | because shouldn't the netinst put all the stuff on my hard drive |
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| 11:29.33 | Zoo | compressed |
| 11:29.39 | valdyn | xtof: what has that to do with ethtool/mii-tool functiuoning? |
| 11:29.56 | valdyn | Zoo: the netinst doesnt contain much at all |
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| 11:29.59 | Subvertir | yeah so I uncapped my cable modem |
| 11:30.00 | Zoo | for some reason I got a feeling my linux screen is going look funkin tight.. I'm not sure though |
| 11:30.02 | Subvertir | 10mbps full duplex owns |
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| 11:30.15 | Subvertir | i was gonna cancel ti and get dsl, i figured wtf |
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| 11:30.24 | Subvertir | why not juarez it up for a few days before i cancel |
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| 11:30.30 | Zoo | so how I get all the dam stuff then. keep me busy for a long time. lets say.. without an internet connectin :) |
| 11:30.42 | Zoo | connection* |
| 11:31.01 | valdyn | Zoo: buy the dvds or cdroms, or get them wherever |
| 11:31.02 | Blackgoth | I have 10/1.5mbit |
| 11:31.08 | Zoo | plan too |
| 11:31.15 | Zoo | thanks for the input though |
| 11:31.18 | Blackgoth | best connection there is for home use in nederlands |
| 11:31.19 | Zoo | :) |
| 11:31.35 | Zoo | so with the netinst.. I have to do a netinst for every dam package I want then |
| 11:31.46 | xtof | valdyn, I don't know. What's happening is that I rebooted my box, and before, I had eth0 connected to the internet, eth2 to a local network. in /etcnet/interface, eth0, eth1, eth2 are configured. Strangely, eth1 was unused, so I had only eth0 and eth2. Now, after a reboot, I had to manually load modules for mouse, and eth2 is not working. |
| 11:31.48 | valdyn | Zoo: however if you just dont have internet on this box but nearby, look into 'apt-zip' |
| 11:31.49 | Blackgoth | well yeah the ADSL2 lines are fine too, but are unstable :+ |
| 11:31.54 | Zoo | thats funkin bullshit then seeing how the motha funkin netinst takes forever |
| 11:32.06 | Subvertir | funkin is really no less offensive than fuckin |
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| 11:32.32 | timgoh0 | Zoo: This is a support channel, not a social one. |
| 11:32.38 | xtof | pumpkin0, but I didn't change my kernel since long, and it worked 2 hours ago :-) |
| 11:32.39 | Gnea | oh for fuck's sake |
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| 11:32.55 | gordotron | dpkg !nvidia |
| 11:32.57 | timgoh0 | petemc: Signal? What signal? |
| 11:33.00 | petemc | :) |
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| 11:33.23 | pumpkin0 | xtof: you need 3c90x for the 10Mbit, and sk98lin for the gigabit-one. (Have you tried /etc/init.d/networking restart ?) |
| 11:33.29 | Zoo | i now pirre |
| 11:33.31 | Zoo | he is a sop from filetopia |
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| 11:33.39 | Zoo | from europe :) |
| 11:34.08 | Gnea | Zoo: what's from europe? |
| 11:34.19 | mc68k | 1.5m bit == 200kB x 1000 zombies = 2mB/sec attack |
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| 11:34.33 | Guerin | Gnea: are you prepared to admit that I was right, yet? |
| 11:34.39 | Zoo | throughput? |
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| 11:35.31 | Gnea | Guerin: about? |
| 11:35.42 | Guerin | Gnea: Zoo/clint- |
| 11:35.47 | Blackgoth | mc68k thats not that mutch |
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| 11:35.56 | Blackgoth | i have an avarage of 55MB/s |
| 11:36.03 | Zoo | throughput? |
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| 11:36.09 | Zoo | we doing throughputs? |
| 11:36.10 | mc68k | ok, 2mB x 805 |
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| 11:36.13 | gordotron | how do I ask dpkg for information on nvidia? |
| 11:36.14 | mc68k | ok, 2mB x 80% |
| 11:36.16 | marcot | Hello, I'm doing a network with /home exported via nfs, and I wanted to do remote authentication. Someone told me to use a backend for pam, can anyone suggest one? |
| 11:36.22 | Shadur | ~tell gordotron about nvidia |
| 11:36.23 | Guerin | gordotron: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 11:36.23 | marcot | Or at least tell me what are the options? |
| 11:36.42 | xtof | pumpkin0, modprobe 3c59x ok, modprobe sk98lin ok, modprobe 3c90x : no such module. But after, networking restart tells eth2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 11:36.53 | Guerin | Gnea: clint- is the same fucktard you lectured me about earlier, because I wasn't being nice enough |
| 11:37.05 | Guerin | Gnea: zoo/clint- are the same |
| 11:37.10 | pumpkin0 | xtof: i think you need a reboot. |
| 11:37.14 | Gnea | Guerin: yes, i know this. |
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| 11:38.06 | xtof | pumpkin0, :-)) I try that way... See you in a few minutes, I'll tell what happened (I hope eth0 will still be ok :-) |
| 11:38.21 | pumpkin0 | xtof: good luck |
| 11:38.24 | Zoo | xtof |
| 11:38.34 | mc68k | ? |
| 11:38.35 | xtof | yes Zoo? |
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| 11:38.55 | GlenneMannen2 | how do I enable ip_queue on my debianbox? |
| 11:39.06 | Zoo | do you know about ..w henI do the netinst.. seeing how people think I am some low life I guess.. .. how I can just make it so If I want a package from command line. it will look onthe partitions.. notthe dam site |
| 11:39.10 | pumpkin0 | Anybody here ever played with speedstep-centrino modding ? I'm thinking about lowering the voltage below the normal op-points. |
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| 11:39.47 | Zoo | and are you good with VESA, Notebook type video graphics etc |
| 11:39.52 | Gnea | Zoo: who said you are a lowlife? |
| 11:39.54 | Blackgoth | pumpkin0 I never did that with speedstep but i did do it when i was overclocking |
| 11:39.55 | Gnea | Zoo: you? |
| 11:40.03 | Blackgoth | well under clocking :) |
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| 11:40.18 | Zoo | does that prolong notebook battery life? |
| 11:40.21 | Bellayo | anyone using mysql from the .deb's ?? somewhat unsure what the configure has done... |
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| 11:40.36 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: i have underclocking working with the speedstep-module. But i can't get anything about the voltages... |
| 11:41.35 | Blackgoth | what kind of software are u using? |
| 11:41.38 | Zoo | any real good at video configuration.. I am about at that time where I have to choose my horizontal and vertical sync rates. I sure don't want 800x600 for a dam screen resolution like all of the other times |
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| 11:42.43 | Zoo | when my notebook is capable of pushing nice quality graphics to 1280x800 |
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| 11:42.43 | tight | hello |
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| 11:42.51 | Zoo | hello |
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| 11:43.18 | Blackgoth | Zoo you could try to install drivers for you VGA card |
| 11:43.25 | SerajewelKS | how do i ask the kernel to automatically load a module? i tried adding it to /etc/modules but either that's deprecated or my setup is broken. |
| 11:43.28 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: cpufreqd + kernel 2.6.11. works out-of-the box. The CPU is running at 600MHz while chatting and at full speed (1.6 GHz) when playing. |
| 11:43.29 | tight | Zoo: hi |
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| 11:43.53 | Zoo | I got all the info I need to read. its jsut alot is overwhelming right now .. with College and all. |
| 11:43.55 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: /etc/modules is the right place to put it |
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| 11:44.10 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, why isn't it working then =/ |
| 11:44.27 | Zoo | I would feel better working in a nice resolution.. and with cool people who understand people. that can tend to get goofy here and there |
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| 11:44.44 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: did you run /etc/init.d/modules start |
| 11:44.45 | nevyn | ? |
| 11:44.52 | Blackgoth | pumpkin0 I dont know, but my other laptop (with XP :+) and speedstep doesnt lower the voltage either(just checked) |
| 11:45.00 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i think he meant /etc/init.d/module-init-tools |
| 11:45.04 | deefzi | argh. i'm a substitute teacher atm. :D |
| 11:45.14 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, not manually no.. i assume that's linked in /etc/rc?.d by default |
| 11:45.14 | Zoo | cool |
| 11:45.19 | tight | Zoo: ooo, what school do you go to? |
| 11:45.20 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: yeah |
| 11:45.24 | adii | deefzi, substitute teacher of what ? |
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| 11:45.35 | deefzi | adii, maths and computer scince |
| 11:45.36 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: it is.. but that stuff only runs at boot time |
| 11:45.36 | Zoo | www.robertmorris.edu/cs/ |
| 11:45.38 | nevyn | bleh |
| 11:45.44 | adii | wow :) |
| 11:45.51 | deefzi | adii, emphasising the word science. everyone's playing flash-games or watching "funny" videois |
| 11:45.51 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, uhm yes.. as i said, it's not loading them at boot time |
| 11:46.09 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: ? Speedsteps has voltages for each clock. The lower the clock, the lower the voltage. That should be working here (because the laptops runns 1 hour longer then the offical runtime... |
| 11:46.11 | adii | err :/ |
| 11:46.18 | Blackgoth | just a quick question, what would make alot of load on a debian rig? |
| 11:46.22 | deefzi | adii, god i'm pissed. but still i don't care. i would give them F-grades if i was the real teacher :p |
| 11:46.29 | Zoo | anyone know just a quick way. for me to be able to play dvd's on my new debian system |
| 11:46.30 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, err, wtf? the module isn't in /etc/modules now. |
| 11:46.38 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: bzip2 and /dev/mem |
| 11:46.41 | deefzi | adii, though 'teaching' maths is kinda nice. |
| 11:46.44 | adii | can't you give them marks as a substitute ? |
| 11:46.47 | Zoo | without hassle..a nd also to rip dvd's |
| 11:46.51 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, i distinctly recall doing "echo fuse >> /etc/modules" the last two times i rebooted. something is clobbering /etc/modules? |
| 11:46.53 | syntaxx | Zoo, apt-get install totem |
| 11:46.55 | Zoo | and if you got time. wireless |
| 11:46.59 | adii | deefzi, i'm future math teacher :p |
| 11:47.05 | deefzi | adii, no. all they have to do is bunch of crappy homepages which are reviewed after the course. |
| 11:47.09 | Zoo | tyvm |
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| 11:47.25 | Zoo | well it had.. totem. but said something about livdvd thing |
| 11:47.28 | adii | sounds .. interesting :) |
| 11:47.30 | Blackgoth | pumpkin0 im using an AMD proc in the laptop it has the same sort of speedstel(never did alot with laptops and voltages :X) |
| 11:47.31 | deefzi | adii, if i was the real teacher, i would give eveyryone F's if they are not capable of coding hello world in 10 languages :D |
| 11:47.32 | Gnea | !tell Zoo about dvd |
| 11:47.50 | Zoo | and plus. would like it for that the graphics for screen saver be better. since I got a pretty nice system from the RMC. |
| 11:47.51 | adii | 10 language you a bitch :p |
| 11:47.52 | deefzi | adii, well. at least i've got some authority. |
| 11:48.08 | Zoo | how about give them 100 languages |
| 11:48.12 | Gnea | Zoo: install synaptic and go nuts. |
| 11:48.15 | deefzi | adii, i'm a superbitch. that would guarantee that all the super-nerds who really deserve their grades would pass the course :) |
| 11:48.17 | Zoo | to memorize |
| 11:48.24 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: hmmm... AMD's have an other managment system. I think it's not using the same code. |
| 11:48.28 | Zoo | lol |
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| 11:48.34 | Blackgoth | pumpkin0 /dev/mem doesnt give alot of load :( |
| 11:48.48 | Zoo | sounds like you are a woman then. because men usually don't refer to themselves as superbitch |
| 11:48.49 | deefzi | anyways. where was i? |
| 11:48.51 | Blackgoth | cat /dev/mem and only thing is that my putty disapears :P |
| 11:48.57 | adii | indeed :) i think that, say, 1 persons among them would pass :) |
| 11:49.02 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: copy /dev/mem somewhere and bzip2 it. |
| 11:49.07 | Zoo | not that I would be sexist or anything.. |
| 11:49.13 | Blackgoth | hmm :D |
| 11:49.18 | Zoo | 8-) |
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| 11:49.39 | Zoo | 4 m's and 50 secs |
| 11:49.50 | tight | Zoo: i am offended. |
| 11:49.50 | deefzi | adii, anyways. math teaching was nice. i got paid for 2 hours and all i did was solve one differential-puzzle for them and gave some tips for the next exercises |
| 11:49.50 | Zoo | geesh.. netinst.. .. geesh. I wonder how long the cd's take |
| 11:50.04 | deefzi | adii, i was willing to do more, but no-one wanted :´< |
| 11:50.06 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: use the industry standard unix configuration tool |
| 11:50.09 | deefzi | adii, not even the girls! :( |
| 11:50.15 | Blackgoth | yeah now were getting some load! :D |
| 11:50.28 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, modconf? |
| 11:50.32 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: vi |
| 11:50.33 | Zoo | all they need to do, is put .. debian to usb.. I will do it. and call it. debian flash install :) |
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| 11:50.38 | adii | deefzi, this is the real prob with teaching : pupils ain't interested |
| 11:50.48 | Gnea | !usb-install |
| 11:50.49 | dpkg | [usb-install] Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumdrive or jumpdrive, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 11:50.49 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, hell yeah, i'm sure vim will do a better job than "echo >>" |
| 11:50.50 | Zoo | who needs Peter Avin lmfao |
| 11:50.52 | adii | unless one teaches in really high degree school |
| 11:50.52 | deefzi | adii, yeah. |
| 11:51.05 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, since we all know that >> only makes temporary changes. wtf? |
| 11:51.20 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: clearly you fucked something up because nothing touches that file.. |
| 11:51.20 | adii | deefzi, where are you teaching ? (country i mean) |
| 11:51.30 | deefzi | adii, that's why i would emphahise on that. the ones who really do something and put effort for the course would get good grades |
| 11:51.30 | Zoo | lmfao |
| 11:51.33 | deefzi | adii, finland |
| 11:51.41 | Zoo | lmao @ clearly you fucked something up |
| 11:51.41 | SerajewelKS | nevyn, all i know is that before i rebooted it was the last line in the file. now it's not there. |
| 11:51.43 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: that's wack, cat /etc/modules shows it, right? |
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| 11:51.54 | Zoo | lol |
| 11:51.56 | adii | ok , france speaking here |
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| 11:51.57 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, it shows it without the added line, yes |
| 11:51.59 | Zoo | casper stole it ! :D |
| 11:52.04 | Blackgoth | pindakaas:/var/www# cp /dev/mem /var/blub |
| 11:52.04 | Blackgoth | cp: reading `/dev/mem': Bad address |
| 11:52.05 | deefzi | adii, the equivalent of this would in english be high school, i think. |
| 11:52.11 | deefzi | adii, sorry. england |
| 11:52.16 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: the echo >> should have done it right. |
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| 11:52.22 | Zoo | deefzi where ou from |
| 11:52.23 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, it DID do it right |
| 11:52.23 | deefzi | adii, ages 16-18(19) |
| 11:52.26 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: ind some other big file .. ? |
| 11:52.28 | Zoo | u* |
| 11:52.32 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: and a reboot should NOT have replaced it. |
| 11:52.33 | adii | in france it's "lycée" |
| 11:52.34 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, prior to the reboot it was in the file. now it's not. |
| 11:52.39 | Blackgoth | i have a 1GB bin file :P |
| 11:52.41 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, i know it shouldn't have replaced it |
| 11:52.46 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: what happens if you put it in the file.. and just run module-init-tools |
| 11:52.47 | adii | deefzi, where pupils take their A-levels |
| 11:52.47 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: wtF |
| 11:52.48 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, i'm baffled right now |
| 11:52.51 | deefzi | Zoo, i'm from nigeria and i teach finnish pupils... grow up! where the fuck you would think i was if i teach people in finland? ;D |
| 11:52.59 | deefzi | adii, yes. |
| 11:53.07 | nevyn | SerajewelKS: in that.. does it disappear? |
| 11:53.11 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, if this happens again i'm going to do chattr +i /dev/modules |
| 11:53.12 | Zoo | I am already growed up |
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| 11:53.22 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, /etc/modules rather |
| 11:53.26 | Guerin | yeah |
| 11:53.28 | deefzi | adii, actually me too. i was a pupil here one year ago. the same school :D |
| 11:53.29 | Blackgoth | Downstream: 4255.24 KBytes/s Upstream: 48.44 KBytes/s |
| 11:53.29 | Zoo | how old do you think I am.. :- ) |
| 11:53.38 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: hrm, that might not be a bad idea - try that after editting it and reboot just to see |
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| 11:53.43 | Guerin | growed up in this case meaning 'graduated elementary skool' |
| 11:53.47 | adii | deefzi, sounds cool to be as old as pupils |
| 11:54.03 | adii | maybe you can share more things with them |
| 11:54.05 | deefzi | adii, yeah. and i've even got some authority, which is nice |
| 11:54.14 | Zoo | people in other countries. no wonder we don't get along. and we get bomb'd and have to go shoot them bastards |
| 11:54.14 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, incidentally, chattr +i is damn useful |
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| 11:54.23 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: agreed. :) |
| 11:54.46 | deefzi | adii, and the funny part of the story: 4-5 of the students have taken the same courses as i, but they failed those so i'm teaching them the courses again :D |
| 11:54.55 | paulswm | Zoo: I would guess your age to be about 12 judging by your posts which is all I have to go on |
| 11:54.56 | adii | loool |
| 11:55.10 | adii | deefzi, how comes you passed your A-levels and could go teaching directly ? |
| 11:55.11 | Zoo | sure.. whatever you think .. paul.. |
| 11:55.18 | Zoo | :) |
| 11:55.21 | deefzi | aww how kind was i :D |
| 11:55.23 | Blackgoth | the load! the load! :D |
| 11:55.30 | Zoo | hey BlackJudas |
| 11:55.31 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, speaking of filesystem stuff, did you know that NTFS 5.0 has symlinks? |
| 11:55.31 | deefzi | i let them go 5 minutes too early ^________^ |
| 11:55.35 | Zoo | Blackgoth |
| 11:55.38 | deefzi | and the teacher is ircing :< |
| 11:55.44 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, you can only symlink a directory, but still |
| 11:55.48 | Blackgoth | that would be me Zoo |
| 11:55.51 | deefzi | adii, like i said i'm a substitute teacher. |
| 11:55.52 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: scary. |
| 11:56.00 | Zoo | 1 sec.. |
| 11:56.02 | adii | still :) |
| 11:56.06 | emateus | hi all |
| 11:56.06 | deefzi | adii, you don't need any pedagogic studies to be a substitute teacher. |
| 11:56.08 | deefzi | adii, in finland. |
| 11:56.17 | pumpkin0 | SerajewelKS: sure. But don't expect windows to do something useful with it. |
| 11:56.20 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, looks like microsoft finally got a clue. or half of a clue rather. i still think symlinking a file is more useful. |
| 11:56.21 | deefzi | adii, many my aged people work as substitute teachers. |
| 11:56.28 | deefzi | anyways, i'm off to home :D |
| 11:56.30 | SerajewelKS | pumpkin0, no of course not =) |
| 11:56.32 | adii | ok here to be whatever teacher one needs to go at least 2 years studying math |
| 11:56.41 | SerajewelKS | i'm still waiting for my device nodes |
| 11:56.42 | Zoo | SerajewelKS |
| 11:56.44 | Guerin | deefzi: you're using words most people in here 1) won't understand or 2) will think are something to do with porn |
| 11:56.46 | SerajewelKS | Zoo |
| 11:56.54 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: are you aware that microsoft started utilizing and bastardizing the open source method over a year ago, along with the source code? |
| 11:56.57 | deefzi | Guerin, like what? :> |
| 11:57.04 | Blackgoth | my server is just too fast to get a high load :( |
| 11:57.06 | Zoo | Microsoft is not the smartest of its kind |
| 11:57.07 | Guerin | deefzi: remember, most of the people in here are from north america ... keep your language suitably monosyllabic |
| 11:57.08 | adii | Guerin, really ? |
| 11:57.09 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, how do you mean? (example) |
| 11:57.12 | Guerin | deefzi: pedagogic |
| 11:57.18 | adii | lool |
| 11:57.28 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: well, the symlink is a prime example of the fruits of that labor |
| 11:57.30 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: do you know boinc ? or long-term-load... |
| 11:57.34 | Zoo | the people who support the computing world...and information Technology and the generation that lies below us. are |
| 11:57.39 | pumpkin0 | s/ir/for |
| 11:57.43 | pumpkin0 | s/or/for |
| 11:57.43 | deefzi | Guerin, ye. that's the only one i wasn't for sure. but the rest of my sentences should have made sense. |
| 11:57.43 | Guerin | deefzi: and don't bring up the fact that english is supposed to be their first language, either ... really pisses them off |
| 11:57.54 | adii | lol funny |
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| 11:57.58 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, i don't consider a symlink to be an "open source" concept -- not any more than any other filesystem node. |
| 11:58.00 | timgoh0 | SerajewelKS: And there are MOUNTPOINTS in windows. How innovative. |
| 11:58.06 | beanz | I have inherited a sendmail box using mail.DOMAIN as well as DOMAIN in the local-host-names file. Why are both needed? |
| 11:58.09 | deefzi | Guerin, i hadn't dictionary in my hands. |
| 11:58.10 | Blackgoth | dont know it pumpkin0 |
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| 11:58.21 | Guerin | deefzi: :) |
| 11:58.23 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, if they start mimicking /proc then i'll be concerned |
| 11:58.28 | Blackgoth | it just hit the 1.01 mark |
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| 11:58.58 | adii | deefzi, back to my linux installation : good luck with your students |
| 11:59.14 | Zoo | it just makes since.. they have cures for cancer, but doctor's hospitals, insurance companies would loose money, and so on with systems. if it wasn't for hackers bad programmers creating viruses to reverse scripts and crash them. and lock them up. wouldn't have to be a constant fight for Internet Security and Intrusion Detection and Prevention |
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| 11:59.20 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ (million years of workload for PCs...) |
| 11:59.30 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, the only thing that majorly frustrates me is that a lot of things that are easy to do on windows (e.g. read another program's memory) are a bitch to do on linux |
| 11:59.41 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, which is weird considering that most of that crap is in /proc |
| 11:59.46 | Blackgoth | pumpkin0 it already runs RC72 |
| 11:59.53 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: they started doing this a long time ago - no, shortcuts simply are not symlinks - if you mount a ntfs partition you cannot cd to the shortcut. symbolic links have historically been on *nix OS's. |
| 11:59.54 | Zoo | thus with people.. good and bad. and on the net.. nice people and assholes. but thats what makes the world go around |
| 12:00.11 | pumpkin0 | Blackgoth: start an other copy... |
| 12:00.11 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, i know shortcuts aren't symlinks |
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| 12:00.19 | Zoo | Blackgoth |
| 12:00.25 | Blackgoth | Zoo |
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| 12:00.35 | Zoo | since I had did a comand .. at boot.. linux26 vga=0x318 |
| 12:00.37 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, i don't know of any windows version that uses NTFS 5.0. maybe vista will. |
| 12:00.46 | Guerin | ~say Zoo: you forgot dumb and smart. |
| 12:00.48 | apt | Zoo: you forgot dumb and smart. |
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| 12:00.52 | Zoo | and it found vesa though in the Configuring xserver-xfree86 |
| 12:00.55 | Zap-W | the order that the inferfaces appear in /etc/network/interfaces "auto eth1 eth0 eth2" , is the order they are brought up? |
| 12:01.00 | Guerin | oh god |
| 12:01.07 | paulswm | Guerin: Does he have you on ignore? |
| 12:01.10 | Guerin | Zap-W is here |
| 12:01.10 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, even then the command-line tool to make a directory symlink will probaby be a fscked-up version of ln |
| 12:01.12 | petemc | Zap-W: not always, use ifrename to force it |
| 12:01.14 | Zoo | I heard they couldn't change it SerajewelKS |
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| 12:01.21 | Guerin | paulswm: for the third or fifth time |
| 12:01.23 | timgoh0 | SerajewelKS: XP uses NTFS 5.1 I think. |
| 12:01.24 | Zoo | but they are working on it |
| 12:01.24 | SerajewelKS | Zoo, change what |
| 12:01.26 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: hehehe |
| 12:01.27 | Guerin | Zap-W: yes. |
| 12:01.33 | timgoh0 | SerajewelKS: Along with 2k3 server. |
| 12:01.34 | paulswm | Guerin: His loss |
| 12:01.37 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, i thought it used 4.0 |
| 12:01.40 | Zoo | people at my college have tried Windows Vista |
| 12:01.49 | emateus | and ? |
| 12:01.50 | Guerin | college |
| 12:01.50 | Guerin | haha |
| 12:01.54 | Zoo | its a complete different look |
| 12:02.01 | pumpkin0 | SerajewelKS: it changed after SP2. |
| 12:02.01 | emateus | ok |
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| 12:02.03 | SerajewelKS | Zoo, like we give a crap about the look |
| 12:02.06 | Zoo | but I dont' want to get into |
| 12:02.09 | Zoo | it |
| 12:02.12 | Zoo | requires 64 |
| 12:02.18 | emateus | yeah sure |
| 12:02.19 | SerajewelKS | 64 what |
| 12:02.21 | Guerin | ~enter |
| 12:02.22 | apt | The enter key or return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 12:02.22 | timgoh0 | SerajewelKS: My lab machines report 5.1 with ntfsutil. |
| 12:02.24 | Zoo | 64 bit processing |
| 12:02.25 | SerajewelKS | 64 licenses? |
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| 12:02.31 | Gnea | Zoo: actually, gravity is what makes the world go round |
| 12:02.31 | emateus | lol |
| 12:02.33 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, interesting |
| 12:02.39 | Guerin | you need an IQ less than 64 to buy it |
| 12:02.50 | Zoo | but thats only time before it is reverse engineered |
| 12:02.59 | Guerin | Gnea: gravity is a result of the world going round |
| 12:03.12 | Guerin | Gnea: attractive forces are what makes the world go around |
| 12:03.15 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, gravity is a result of the world |
| 12:03.17 | Gnea | Guerin: and the world is a result of gravity |
| 12:03.18 | emateus | lol guerin |
| 12:03.19 | Zap-W | petemc: in what case will it not boot in that order ? |
| 12:03.25 | paulswm | gravity is a force leaking from another brnae, actually |
| 12:03.29 | paulswm | brane |
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| 12:04.06 | pumpkin0 | leaks are always bad, ... oh, you're not taking about mem leaks, are you ? |
| 12:04.15 | Guerin | mmm, leeks |
| 12:04.16 | hellfire | !crypto |
| 12:04.16 | dpkg | Cryptographic software is classified as munitions (military weapons) under US export laws. This has changed a bit recently, but it's still legally problematic to export cryptographic software from inside the US. That's why the non-US (cryptographic) section of Debian is hosted on machines that are NOT physically or politically inside the US. Ask me about "non-US" or "non-US mirrors". |
| 12:04.26 | jynxzero | Where can I get sid installation CDs? (The link suggested by the jigdo page is no good) |
| 12:04.35 | petemc | Zap-W: not sure ottomh, i guess module loading is a factor, its this reason that ifrename was created |
| 12:04.41 | Zap-W | petemc: i dont care about the names , just the up script that are in each section |
| 12:04.43 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: Are you sure you need the full install set? |
| 12:04.58 | jynxzero | timgoh0: Netinst would be fine. |
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| 12:05.02 | hellfire | can anybody tell me how i can educate myself about secure crypto algorythms? |
| 12:05.07 | petemc | Zap-W: oh right |
| 12:05.11 | jynxzero | But sarge/etch are no good. |
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| 12:05.17 | Zoo | its kind of weird.. system bios says.. VGA Memory 128, by dealut. but it found vesa for the X Window System user interface to operate correctly |
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| 12:05.20 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, if windows eventually gets FIFOs then maybe we can sue microsoft |
| 12:05.27 | Guerin | jynxzero: bollocks, both sarge and sid are fine. |
| 12:05.32 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, "we" meaning the kernel developers of course |
| 12:05.36 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: What do you need? |
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| 12:05.50 | Guerin | jynxzero: do you have a specific reason for needing sid for install? and if so, what is it? |
| 12:05.54 | jynxzero | Guerin: Sarge doesn't support my hardware |
| 12:05.55 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: And why do you need it? |
| 12:06.03 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: What hardware? |
| 12:06.04 | Zoo | Windows is going fall and everyone is going turn to open source and then microsoft will start releasing free editions |
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| 12:06.07 | Guerin | jynxzero: so use the dailies for etch |
| 12:06.18 | jynxzero | The CD images for testing are broken (fail on debootstrap) |
| 12:06.21 | Subvertir | shortly thereafter, hell will freeze over |
| 12:06.21 | SerajewelKS | Zoo, that's the goal anyway. we'll see if it happens. |
| 12:06.25 | timgoh0 | Zoo: Again, this is a support channel, and not a social/troll one. This is not slashdot. |
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| 12:06.42 | Guerin | jynxzero: all of them? really? |
| 12:06.45 | stubbs_ | can anyone get the ndiswrapper module into the kernel? |
| 12:06.48 | Zoo | I am not the only one socializing. thankx |
| 12:06.50 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, it's not a social channel? gosh darn it. i guess i don't have a social life then... |
| 12:06.55 | Guerin | jynxzero: what specific hardware fails to work |
| 12:06.58 | Zoo | want me to post some lines.. eh? |
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| 12:07.06 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: Any specific error messages? |
| 12:07.16 | jynxzero | Guerin: According to the Wiki, the dailies are also no good. |
| 12:07.29 | jynxzero | timgoh0: Broadcom netxtreme ethernet card |
| 12:07.40 | Guerin | hahah |
| 12:07.44 | Zoo | dam .. now feels good |
| 12:07.48 | Guerin | !broadcom |
| 12:07.49 | dpkg | broadcom is probably a NIC that's not supported in 2.4.18, but is apparently supported in 2.4.25 (module is named "b44"), or may also be tg3 driver, or see broadcom woody, or evil scum producing undocumented HW and violating GPL. |
| 12:07.53 | Zoo | Guerin I am almost done |
| 12:07.59 | Guerin | Zoo: done what? |
| 12:08.00 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: Hmm, can you not use another networkcard to get the base installation? |
| 12:08.01 | Gnea | Zoo: what is your function? |
| 12:08.03 | Zoo | after I get resolution. I am out of here like I Never existsed |
| 12:08.07 | Guerin | Zoo: done being a fuckwit? i don't believe you. |
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| 12:08.17 | stubbs_ | jynxzero: im trying to get it work using ndiswrapper |
| 12:08.29 | Zoo | you think I need debian to succeed |
| 12:08.33 | Zoo | channel |
| 12:08.35 | Zoo | lmfao |
| 12:08.41 | timgoh0 | Zoo: Then get OFF the channel. |
| 12:08.43 | Gnea | you think you think |
| 12:08.44 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 12:08.45 | Guerin | Zoo: you think we give half a bad fuck. |
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| 12:08.56 | Zoo | sure don't and dont' give a fuck myself |
| 12:09.08 | darkness | I have serious problems with my uk keymapping. I'm using the uk standard standard but the keys are all messed up. |
| 12:09.15 | fireba11 | hm .. opensuse 10 login screen looks pretty much like XP ^^ |
| 12:09.16 | jynxzero | timgoh0: Is there some reason why I shouldn't use a sid netinst? It seems like the easiest solution. I could go buy another nic byt that seems like overkill. |
| 12:09.17 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: Does jigdo fail for you? |
| 12:09.32 | Guerin | jynxzero: buying quality hardware is never overkill. |
| 12:09.38 | Zoo | that would be Xandros.. fireba11 ^^ |
| 12:09.48 | Zoo | ^^ |
| 12:10.00 | SerajewelKS | fireba11, i really have no problem with linux desktop environments looking like windows to some extent as long as they do things the right way |
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| 12:10.06 | pureone | <@:) |
| 12:10.07 | Zoo | eh.. I'll take a motha effin guess on vesa |
| 12:10.15 | Guerin | jynxzero: you could also get CD1, install from it, and thehn you'd have the means to build additional kernel modules to support your crappy proprietary shiteware |
| 12:10.22 | jynxzero | timgoh0: No jigdo is fine. But sarge fails to detect card, and etch gives error messages when it tries to deboostrap. |
| 12:10.26 | fireba11 | just saw it for the first time and was a bit surprised :-) |
| 12:10.46 | Zoo | (#) |
| 12:10.47 | SerajewelKS | fireba11, and as long as users are given the option to have it NOT look like windows =) |
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| 12:10.54 | jynxzero | Geurin: if you can;t be civil, STFU. |
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| 12:11.02 | Zoo | who wants to look like windows |
| 12:11.08 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: Go get a decent network card. Less pain. And they are rather cheap. :) |
| 12:11.11 | Gnea | jynxzero: Zoo wants to grab your ass. |
| 12:11.12 | Zoo | have it look your way that amuses ya :) |
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| 12:11.24 | Zoo | no.. I dont.. :) |
| 12:11.25 | Guerin | jynxzero: you're asking for support on unsupported, unsupportable hardware. |
| 12:11.31 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: Even the realtek ones are cheap. |
| 12:11.34 | Zoo | lmfao |
| 12:11.41 | jynxzero | Geurin: No, I'm asking where I can get a sid netinst CD. |
| 12:11.42 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: And decent. enough. |
| 12:11.44 | Zoo | now thts some funny stuff I might add |
| 12:11.52 | Zoo | ;) |
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| 12:12.01 | SerajewelKS | Zoo, if people want it to look like windows they should be able to configure it that way. but if they don't, same thing. that's what makes free desktop environments what they are (IMHO): configurability. |
| 12:12.05 | Guerin | jynxzero: debian doesn't make them. Next. |
| 12:12.13 | Gnea | Zoo: have you considered heading down to the street level and picking up a hooker to keep you warm? |
| 12:12.15 | Guerin | !custom d-i |
| 12:12.15 | dpkg | methinks custom d-i is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt |
| 12:12.18 | Zoo | exactly |
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| 12:12.22 | darkness | Anyone got an idea why my keyboard mapping is messed up? |
| 12:12.34 | jynxzero | Guerin: If you'd said that 10min ago, it would have saved us all a lot of hassle, eh? |
| 12:12.36 | Zoo | i considered ordering an m4 and assembling it just for you |
| 12:12.37 | SerajewelKS | darkness, dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 12:12.44 | Guerin | jynxzero: no, because that's not what you asked for |
| 12:12.46 | stubbs_ | can anyone get the ndiswrapper module into the kernel? |
| 12:12.51 | resiak | !anyone |
| 12:12.51 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 12:13.08 | dorto | where to put 'export var=value' if this should be loaded for all users? |
| 12:13.13 | Gnea | Zoo: what makes you so much better than myself or anyone else in here? |
| 12:13.13 | stubbs_ | dpkg ndiswrapper |
| 12:13.13 | dpkg | from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux i386 only. If there is a Linux driver for your card, use that instead; if there isn't, email your manufacturer and ask for one (since it's better for everyone involved if there are real drivers), then ask me about "ndiswrapper one-liner" for information on setting up ndiswrapper. If you don't yet own a card, consider buying one that has real Linux drivers. |
| 12:13.14 | jynxzero | Guerin: It;s the first thing I asked for. |
| 12:13.16 | Guerin | !system wide |
| 12:13.16 | dpkg | People who want to make things 'system wide' (aliases, environment variable changes, etc.) are control freaks. Leave your poor users alone. |
| 12:13.25 | Guerin | dorto: ^ |
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| 12:13.29 | dorto | haha |
| 12:13.30 | Zoo | I didnt' say I was better than anyone else |
| 12:13.34 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: This may work. http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/i386/current/ |
| 12:13.43 | Gnea | you just said you'd make a bomb to blow me up. |
| 12:13.43 | dorto | i want to set the CVSROOT once and for all |
| 12:13.44 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: I am assuming i386. |
| 12:13.52 | dorto | users were requesting for it |
| 12:13.53 | Zoo | an m4 is not a bomb |
| 12:14.00 | Guerin | timgoh0: wtf |
| 12:14.00 | daft | some one here ever works with Xmove i cant get it to work |
| 12:14.00 | Gnea | how do you know |
| 12:14.00 | stubbs_ | dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 12:14.01 | dpkg | i guess ndiswrapper one-liner is apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
| 12:14.08 | deefzi | Guerin, pedagogic is an american word. just checked :-) |
| 12:14.08 | timgoh0 | Guerin: ?? |
| 12:14.21 | dorto | infact i was told the last time and i did that and got it; now i was making notes and i don't remember it |
| 12:14.21 | jynxzero | timgoh0: Ta, it is i386, but tried those images already. |
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| 12:14.31 | Guerin | deefzi: oh yeah, it is. It's just bigger than 'baseball' |
| 12:14.35 | jynxzero | Never mind, will find another route. |
| 12:14.36 | timgoh0 | jynxzero: No support? |
| 12:14.37 | resiak | PerfDave: DON'T DO IT! |
| 12:14.47 | PerfDave | resiak: OMG! |
| 12:14.49 | Guerin | timgoh0: those are etch, aiui |
| 12:14.51 | jynxzero | timgoh0: Yeah, but debootstrap fails. |
| 12:15.10 | jynxzero | There is a "know issue" about it on the wiki. |
| 12:15.16 | Gnea | Zoo: that's what i thought. and i bet you're still stuck at 800x600 because you skipped by the resolution selection. |
| 12:15.22 | Zoo | Kevix are you here? |
| 12:15.25 | Knight_Lord | Hi. I'm trying to allow users to mount a certain nfs share anywhere they want. So i did a small C program to do that and i SUID it but i still get the "Only root can do that" error message. Can anyone help me? Where did i go wrong? |
| 12:15.28 | jynxzero | Anyway, will find another way, ta. |
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| 12:15.40 | timgoh0 | Guerin: Hmm. |
| 12:15.45 | Knight_Lord | I also noticed that mount seems to be SUID which i find a little weird |
| 12:16.01 | valdyn | Knight_Lord: mount is suid and checks for root |
| 12:16.11 | darkness | Mmm, i've changed my console-data to qwerty uk standard standard.Yet still no change to a messed up keyboard? |
| 12:16.13 | Knight_Lord | valdyn so how can i go around that? |
| 12:16.14 | Guerin | Knight_Lord: man fstab |
| 12:16.26 | Knight_Lord | Guerin problem is mount point is not constant |
| 12:16.37 | Knight_Lord | Guerin and i can't go around changing all the fstab in all the computers |
| 12:16.46 | Guerin | Knight_Lord: no way around this |
| 12:16.50 | SerajewelKS | Knight_Lord, afaik you need to have the program change its user id |
| 12:16.52 | Guerin | Knight_Lord: make it constant |
| 12:16.54 | Zoo | k.. at the horizontal sync range |
| 12:17.05 | Knight_Lord | SerajewelKS that's what suid does |
| 12:17.06 | SerajewelKS | Knight_Lord, i don't think that making a program suid automatically makes it run as root |
| 12:17.11 | fabsmad | how can I edit xsession to tell gnome to start gdesklets? |
| 12:17.13 | valdyn | Knight_Lord: why would they need to mount that share 'anywhere'? that's jsut asking for trouble ( for no use ) |
| 12:17.22 | timgoh0 | Knight_Lord: Did you set the user to root? |
| 12:17.25 | PerfDave | Knight_Lord: Why do you need to mount this share in random places? Why not mount it somewhere consistent, and create links to it from wherever? |
| 12:17.28 | SerajewelKS | Knight_Lord, then again i haven't messed with the programming side of suid much |
| 12:17.42 | Zoo | I am going snap the fuck out if I get 800x600 resolution |
| 12:17.47 | Knight_Lord | valdyn i want each user to be able to mount nfsserver:storage/user under ~user/storage |
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| 12:18.05 | valdyn | Knight_Lord: what's the point? |
| 12:18.13 | Guerin | Knight_Lord: can you set ~/storage as the mount point in fstab? |
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| 12:18.24 | PerfDave | Knight_Lord: I have exactly the same situation here, I mount nfsserver:storage in /mnt and use symlinks. |
| 12:18.26 | Knight_Lord | Guerin there are lots of users |
| 12:18.36 | Guerin | Knight_Lord: why not just have a central /storage, which everyone can access./ |
| 12:18.38 | Guerin | ? |
| 12:18.40 | Guerin | Knight_Lord: so? |
| 12:18.44 | SerajewelKS | Zoo, i figured out that the only way i can get my monitor to do 85 refresh rate is to use a different vertical sync range than the one on the back of the monitor. not sure if that's X's fault or the monitor's fault. |
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| 12:19.01 | Zoo | k |
| 12:19.02 | SerajewelKS | Knight_Lord, what's wrong with symlinks? |
| 12:19.07 | Zoo | let me look on back of monitor |
| 12:19.16 | Knight_Lord | Guerin could be an option |
| 12:19.20 | Zoo | I took people off on ignore. so can help and I be the fuck out of here and sorry |
| 12:19.23 | fabsmad | how can I set gnome to start an applet when I launch it? thanks |
| 12:19.41 | SerajewelKS | fabsmad, if it's a panel applet, that should get saved in your settings |
| 12:19.44 | valdyn | fabsmad: when you quit gnome, you save the session, that includes applets |
| 12:19.52 | nvz | I don't know yet where I am going yet, or what I am buying.. but I am going there, and I am buying it. |
| 12:19.56 | valdyn | fabsmad: or jsut run 'gnome-session-save' manually |
| 12:20.05 | SerajewelKS | speaking of sessions i never found them all that useful, since most programs i use don't support them anyway |
| 12:20.14 | Zoo | its got it at |
| 12:20.17 | SerajewelKS | maybe i'm missing the point |
| 12:20.19 | Zoo | 28-50 |
| 12:20.23 | nvz | impulse shopping :p |
| 12:20.26 | Zoo | for horizontal |
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| 12:20.34 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: which is why you can add stuff manually to sessions |
| 12:20.39 | Zoo | I want it like it has been for the motha fuckin install |
| 12:20.44 | fabsmad | I tryed to do "save session", but without any results! |
| 12:20.53 | SerajewelKS | valdyn, dunno, i still prefer to start stuff myself. personal preference i guess. |
| 12:21.00 | Knight_Lord | I guess i'm gonna give symlinks a try |
| 12:21.09 | Zoo | anyone would know what I would do for a |
| 12:21.18 | PerfDave | Knight_Lord: It's probably the simplest way to do what you want to do. |
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| 12:21.33 | Zoo | 15.4 WXGA Acer CrystalBrite color TFT LCD, 1280x800 |
| 12:21.35 | Knight_Lord | Ok. Thanks for the help everyone :-) |
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| 12:21.49 | PerfDave | Knight_Lord: Best of luck :) |
| 12:22.09 | Zoo | stupid acer company can't even tell me the dam horizontal and vertical sync ranges |
| 12:22.26 | SerajewelKS | valdyn, probably a side-effect of my hatred for the windows "Startup" menu |
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| 12:22.29 | Guerin | !hwinfo |
| 12:22.29 | dpkg | well, hwinfo is your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 12:22.33 | Guerin | oh wait |
| 12:22.36 | Guerin | he's ignoring dpkg |
| 12:22.39 | Zoo | I don't have that option |
| 12:22.39 | timgoh0 | Zoo: Mind your language. And you should be able to get away using Medium setup mode. It's an lcd. |
| 12:22.52 | Zoo | I dont' want the 800x600 |
| 12:22.53 | Guerin | not that that would make a fucking difference, since I fucking told him about two hours ago |
| 12:22.59 | Zoo | and they said its cool to cuss mofo |
| 12:23.07 | Zoo | so whatever |
| 12:23.08 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, wtf... how is "dam" bad language |
| 12:23.09 | timgoh0 | Zoo: Mind your language. |
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| 12:23.19 | Guerin | timgoh0: ?? |
| 12:23.21 | Zoo | I am off in a fuckin minute |
| 12:23.26 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, uhm.. shut the fuck up |
| 12:23.31 | timgoh0 | SerajewelKS: See above. I quote. "20:21 Zoo> I want it like it has been for the motha fuckin install" |
| 12:23.31 | Zoo | thanks .. but I don't answer to ya |
| 12:23.45 | Zoo | thanks |
| 12:23.51 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, and who says that's inappropriate in this channel |
| 12:24.00 | Zoo | I just need these dam ranges and I'm out fo ra while. a |
| 12:24.25 | Zoo | just tryin play Mr Mom |
| 12:24.30 | Zoo | is all |
| 12:24.50 | dorto | why is the audio quality so poor in gnu/linux in general? it used to be good in mandrake, its so bad in debian |
| 12:24.56 | Zoo | eh. became a part of the ignore |
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| 12:25.02 | dorto | i don't know what i am doing wrong |
| 12:25.09 | petemc | dorto: erm, its not? |
| 12:25.10 | timgoh0 | SerajewelKS: "fuck" has traditionally been a taboo word. Seeing that this is a public channel, I would expect that people using the channel show some restraint. |
| 12:25.16 | Zoo | probably because of driver support |
| 12:25.25 | timgoh0 | dorto: Define "poor". |
| 12:25.28 | PerfDave | dorto: Why do you say that audio quality is poor? |
| 12:25.30 | timgoh0 | dorto: How does it sound? |
| 12:25.48 | Zoo | maybe the cache ran differently on drake than it does on debian |
| 12:25.48 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, you haven't been in here for very long have you? |
| 12:26.01 | dorto | well, its not even like stereo quality, mine is 5.1 |
| 12:26.08 | Zoo | it don't matter SerajewelKS no more. put his ass on ignore |
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| 12:26.12 | Guerin | timgoh0: the use of the word fuck in this channel has a long and glorious history |
| 12:26.16 | Guerin | !fuck |
| 12:26.16 | dpkg | well, fuck is a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
| 12:26.19 | Guerin | see? |
| 12:26.24 | Zoo | i didnt' see :) |
| 12:26.32 | Zoo | hey Guerin |
| 12:26.33 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, remember that we're not politically correct like microsoft |
| 12:26.33 | dorto | i don't know what exactly is 'poor' but the quality is very much inferior to that of windows |
| 12:26.38 | Zoo | thanks for the help though |
| 12:26.42 | timgoh0 | Guerin: So it is accepted that screaming your head off with random, undirected insults is OK? |
| 12:26.43 | dorto | do i need to install any specific drivers for my audio card like i do in windows? |
| 12:26.52 | Guerin | timgoh0: context is everything. |
| 12:27.03 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, no, that is flaming |
| 12:27.07 | Zoo | usin the word fuck seems to get you what you need |
| 12:27.10 | Guerin | dorto: what card, what kernel? |
| 12:27.17 | IsaacHaze | Zoo: laid? |
| 12:27.21 | timgoh0 | dorto: Is your issue one with not getting the other channels or distortion? |
| 12:27.23 | Zoo | no |
| 12:27.25 | IsaacHaze | sry could not resist |
| 12:27.26 | Zoo | Guerin |
| 12:27.28 | dorto | kernel: 2.6 card: creative sb live |
| 12:27.34 | Zoo | lol |
| 12:27.42 | Zoo | thats what I got too |
| 12:27.42 | Guerin | dorto: snd-emu10k1 |
| 12:27.52 | Zoo | actually.. sound blaster pro |
| 12:27.53 | dorto | no distortion; just that the quality is not as good as windows |
| 12:27.54 | Guerin | dorto: one of the best-supported cards under linux |
| 12:27.56 | Zoo | for my mobile notebook |
| 12:28.03 | PerfDave | dorto: Hmm, SB Live is about the best-supported card you can get, especially with 2.6 kernel. The correct driver (snd_emu10k1) should be automatically loaded and used. |
| 12:28.12 | timgoh0 | dorto: I am fuzzy about the "quality" bit. |
| 12:28.28 | Zoo | thats because most hardware is made for windows lmfao |
| 12:28.31 | PerfDave | dorto: I suspect that whatever problem you're having is not related to device drivers. What audio are you trying to play, with what application? |
| 12:28.38 | dbron | !seen greycat |
| 12:28.39 | dpkg | greycat <i=rfc1413@wooledge.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 26d 22h 33m 44s ago, saying: ':sniff:'. |
| 12:28.47 | Zoo | its like. sure there going make a car. run on unleaded fuel and run on diesel lmfao |
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| 12:29.04 | dorto | PerfDave: mp3 audio with xmms and beep media player |
| 12:29.08 | Zoo | thats fuckin hillarios how i look at the open source and windows |
| 12:29.10 | Guerin | Zoo: do you think you could just shut the fuck up for a few minutes? |
| 12:29.23 | dorto | how to check if snd_emu10k1 is loaded by the os? |
| 12:29.23 | Guerin | Zoo: maybe long enough to slam your head in a door several times |
| 12:29.24 | timgoh0 | Guerin: You're right. Fuck is appropriate in certain situations. |
| 12:29.29 | Zoo | yep if you could help me get the good sync ranges bud |
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| 12:29.37 | nkuttler | dorto: lsmod |
| 12:29.40 | Zoo | then I'm fuckin off |
| 12:29.50 | Guerin | Zoo: LCD devices have sync ranges? |
| 12:29.53 | Zoo | I give you word |
| 12:29.59 | Zoo | my word |
| 12:30.00 | dorto | yeah...its loaded |
| 12:30.01 | PerfDave | dorto: And it's the same MP3 file in Linux and Windows? |
| 12:30.02 | timgoh0 | Guerin: Prolly a VGA LCD. |
| 12:30.06 | dorto | but the bass and treble are terrible....my small two speaker syttem plays better audio |
| 12:30.13 | dorto | PerfDave: yes, same files |
| 12:30.22 | Zoo | dorto |
| 12:30.26 | dorto | i have those drives mounted here |
| 12:30.28 | PerfDave | dorto: OK, the bass and treble are terrible, now we're getting somewhere :) |
| 12:30.32 | Zoo | havn't you considered that they were edited on windows |
| 12:30.40 | Guerin | dorto: sounds like a mixing issue. equalisation is tricky in linux, you need to use jackd. |
| 12:30.40 | timgoh0 | PerfDave: Tweak mixer settings? |
| 12:30.48 | Zoo | and the fact that m4a is better than mp3 |
| 12:31.04 | PerfDave | dorto: You should be able to use a mixer application to change EQ settings. Your Gnome / KDE mixer applets should both be able to do this, or you can fall back on alsamixer from the command-line. |
| 12:31.06 | Zoo | and wav and.. ogg, and other files on linux and unix systems are all different |
| 12:31.07 | Guerin | Zoo: and that flac is better than either. |
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| 12:31.19 | dorto | i will try the mixers |
| 12:31.24 | Guerin | Zoo: and where they were made is as irrelevant as you like. |
| 12:31.32 | ronalde | how can i change the behaviour of the [end] en [home] keys in gnome-terminal |
| 12:31.32 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, ogg is better than flac, right? |
| 12:31.38 | Zoo | Guerin just give me the fuckin ranges |
| 12:31.46 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: ogg is a container format. |
| 12:31.55 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, *vorbis |
| 12:31.56 | timgoh0 | SerajewelKS: ITYM Vorbis. |
| 12:32.03 | SerajewelKS | timgoh0, i know that |
| 12:32.05 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: Ogg is a container format. Vorbis is a lossy encoder which is superior (IME) to MP3. FLAC is a lossless encoder. |
| 12:32.10 | Zoo | stop being an asshole and give me the fucking ranges and I leave here and dont' come back |
| 12:32.12 | SerajewelKS | !lart PerfDave |
| 12:32.13 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: they serve different purposes |
| 12:32.15 | SerajewelKS | stfu, i get it |
| 12:32.27 | SerajewelKS | the files fucking end in .ogg -- they are ogg files |
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| 12:32.32 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: Well, cheers. I was only trying to help. |
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| 12:32.39 | Zoo | SerajewelKS since he can't giev me and help with ranges can you help me |
| 12:32.46 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: why ask a question if you don't want the fucking answer? |
| 12:32.57 | SerajewelKS | Zoo, the ranges depend entirely on the monitor. try googling |
| 12:32.59 | Zoo | I do want the fucking answer |
| 12:33.17 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, i want to know if vorbis is better than flac. and i think you knew what i meant. |
| 12:33.22 | Zoo | I called the dam people who make the dam and provide the fuckin acer but they dont' even know the sync ranges |
| 12:33.22 | Guerin | Zoo: i told you the fucking answer, you twat |
| 12:33.29 | PerfDave | Zoo: Why do you think Guerin, or anybody else, happens to know how to configure X on your LCD display? You'd probably have better luck on Google. |
| 12:33.47 | Zoo | havn't had better luck |
| 12:33.55 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: I didn't, because your question was comparing apples and oranges. And regards your revised question, i answered already. |
| 12:33.56 | Zoo | have had shitty luck and shitty luck being a person here as well |
| 12:34.02 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, sorry.. but when three people in a row tell me the exact same thing i get pissed |
| 12:34.26 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, ah i thought "they serve different purposes" was about ogg and vorbis |
| 12:34.39 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: Please understand how IRC works a little better. Nobody can see what anybody else is typing. It's not uncommon for multiple people to answer the same question, because they all type an answer at the same time. |
| 12:34.42 | adii | i'm installing debian on a laptop : what "x driver" should i put ? |
| 12:34.45 | ultima | PerfDave, in the "widescreen" mode? |
| 12:34.48 | Guerin | Zoo: SerajewelKS it is. |
| 12:34.51 | Guerin | bah |
| 12:34.54 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: no, it's not |
| 12:34.57 | dorto | thx all, its coming good with "ALSA"(i don't know what it is) which i have to start every time i boot into debian |
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| 12:34.58 | Guerin | i'm stupid |
| 12:35.04 | deefzi | adii, when do you think you'll gonna be a maths teacher? |
| 12:35.06 | Zoo | fuck it |
| 12:35.12 | dorto | s/its/sound |
| 12:35.14 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, *sigh* yes i know that too. you answered 20 seconds later. |
| 12:35.19 | nkuttler | adii: what graphics card? |
| 12:35.20 | deefzi | adii, and for what grade? lower/secondary/high? |
| 12:35.24 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, later than Guerin |
| 12:35.36 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: From your perspective. Please understand how IRC works a little better. |
| 12:35.40 | adii | deefzi, in a couple of year : i've been studying math in what we call "cpge" = class for preparing "grandes écoles" = 'national school' |
| 12:35.56 | Zoo | i am going take out my whole class |
| 12:35.58 | adii | high school at least |
| 12:35.58 | ultima | adii, ? |
| 12:36.05 | Zoo | fuck it |
| 12:36.13 | adii | nkuttler, it's an ati something |
| 12:36.21 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, from everybody's perspective unless you're lagging. and yes i understand how IRC works, you don't need to repeat yourself. |
| 12:36.26 | dorto | how can i ask the system to use 'alsa' all the time without having to run 'alsaconf' every time i reboot? |
| 12:36.33 | PerfDave | dorto: What are you having to start every time you boot into Debian? |
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| 12:36.34 | Zoo | no wonder people get fucking pissed and go shoot up there school |
| 12:36.36 | nkuttler | adii: something is not very precise, /msg dpkg faq and read the ati section |
| 12:36.43 | dorto | PerfDave: alsaconf |
| 12:36.43 | deefzi | adii, yeah. the girls are the most pretty at the ages of 17-23 ;D |
| 12:36.58 | dorto | haha, what happens to them after 23?!! |
| 12:36.58 | adii | nkuttler, give me a moment to retrieve the details |
| 12:37.02 | PerfDave | dorto: use "alsactl save" IIRC to save your ALSA settings. They should get saved automatically if you're shutting down cleanly, however. |
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| 12:37.13 | dorto | k |
| 12:37.14 | adii | deefzi, yeah, but i've been with my gf for like 3 years so .. :) |
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| 12:37.39 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: You're not showing any sign of understanding how IRC works, but it's OK, I'll just not help you in future. |
| 12:37.43 | ultima | deefzi, nono,it should be 0 |
| 12:38.26 | adii | deefzi, unfortunately many girls ain't attracted by "what about going out with the math teacher" :/ |
| 12:38.27 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, so you didn't see Guerin's response until after you hit enter? |
| 12:38.58 | Guerin | adii: student <-> teacher relations is pretty dirty anyway |
| 12:39.04 | deefzi | adii, not if you're a hunk with some serious brain :) |
| 12:39.18 | Zoo | so I guess I am just going take a guess what the fuck a 15.4 WXGA Acer CrystalBrite Color TFT LCD , 1280 x 800 sync ranges are |
| 12:39.22 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: It's a possibility. Or maybe I saw it, and considered that my answer gave more information than his did. |
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| 12:39.44 | Ronin | with all that info zoo your saying you cant find that on google or the Acer website? |
| 12:39.44 | PerfDave | Zoo: If you've not had any luck here or with Google, you could try asking the debian-user mailing list. |
| 12:39.49 | ultima | Zoo, hehe |
| 12:39.50 | Guerin | Zoo: http://fuckinggoogleit.com |
| 12:39.56 | Zoo | acer don't have the fuckin information |
| 12:40.01 | adii | nkuttler, i have a ATI RadeOn Xpress 200M (128 Mo) |
| 12:40.03 | Guerin | Zoo: they do. |
| 12:40.04 | Zoo | I even called the dam bastards |
| 12:40.09 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, true, it did give more info. anyway i call it ogg because the files are .ogg files, not .vorbis files. |
| 12:40.10 | adii | deefzi, lemme have a look of word "hunk" |
| 12:40.12 | Guerin | Zoo: return your laptop |
| 12:40.25 | Guerin | Zoo: tell them it's insufficiently documented |
| 12:40.28 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave, but i'm aware of the distinction. |
| 12:40.47 | adii | deefzi, ok i got it |
| 12:40.48 | deefzi | adii, don't look it from google :p |
| 12:41.05 | adii | no no, from dictionnary |
| 12:41.08 | Zoo | fuck google |
| 12:41.10 | Guerin | Zoo: in any case, we don't give a fuck, so stop being a fuckwit about it |
| 12:41.10 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: That's great, but you're not being accurate, and it's not unreasonable for people to point out your inaccuracy. Especially when you're trying to compare Ogg Vorbis and Ogg FLAC ;) |
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| 12:41.53 | PerfDave | Zoo: Have you tried looking on http://www.linux-laptops.net/ or http://www.tuxmobil.org/ for information on getting your laptop working nicely under Linux? |
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| 12:42.07 | ultima | mmm |
| 12:42.10 | deefzi | adii, it's weird that you're only 19 and graduating in a few years. mostly finnish people graduate from the second level (high school) and proceed to university which takes about 5-6 years. and add year for army, if you're a male. |
| 12:42.16 | Zoo | dam.. probably all I have to do. is figure the mathematical for horizontal ranges and all |
| 12:42.20 | deefzi | -ly |
| 12:42.26 | Zoo | and sync. thats its. peace da fuck out |
| 12:42.36 | Ronin | PerfDave: that would be a no i suspect |
| 12:42.40 | adii | deefzi, no more "year for army" in france :) |
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| 12:43.14 | Guerin | i graduated university at age 22 |
| 12:43.16 | Guerin | or maybe 21 |
| 12:43.22 | deefzi | adii, i know. and italy suspended their compulsory military service. |
| 12:43.24 | Guerin | damn, I can't remember |
| 12:43.35 | PerfDave | Guerin: You old fart ;p |
| 12:43.38 | ultima | ? |
| 12:43.48 | Zoo | I bet you I going be the first mother fucker to configure this shit right.. because noone has an acer aspire 3610 configured to 1280x800 yet |
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| 12:43.57 | Guerin | PerfDave: and I had to walk uphill both ways! |
| 12:44.02 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, if my brain is doing math correctly right now i'll graduate at 24 |
| 12:44.08 | Zoo | and I dont 'want any other mother fuckin distro.. I do'nt care about distro's |
| 12:44.09 | adii | deefzi, the school i am in is the hardest you can join after A-levels |
| 12:44.12 | Guerin | (i actually DID have to walk uphilll both ways to work, once) |
| 12:44.21 | timgoh0 | Guerin: What about in the snow? :) |
| 12:44.22 | PerfDave | Zoo: Have you looked at the websites I just mentioned, or asked on the debian-user mailing list? They're more likely to help you than sitting here ranting on IRC and irritating people. |
| 12:44.25 | deefzi | adii, but finland with it's 5,2 million inhabitants it's impossible to a hired army |
| 12:44.26 | Guerin | timgoh0: no snow. |
| 12:44.34 | Zoo | fuck it.. going get gun |
| 12:44.50 | deefzi | adii, hardest level or the best "after a-level school" in france? |
| 12:44.51 | adii | deefzi, the crapiest pupil here would have A+ grades in whatever french university |
| 12:44.59 | SerajewelKS | Zoo, just FYI, we don't know the ranges. do griping to us will not help you figure out the ranges. |
| 12:45.00 | adii | hardest level :) |
| 12:45.04 | SerajewelKS | s/do/so/ |
| 12:45.08 | Zoo | and does this sound like some ranges. when its reading.. 28-50 |
| 12:45.08 | Guerin | Zoo: make sure you drink plenty of moonshine before you start playing with dangerous things |
| 12:45.18 | Zoo | <spdf> Zoo.. Horiz is 31.5 toi 48.4 and Vert is 60... |
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| 12:45.31 | Zoo | eh heh |
| 12:45.42 | Zoo | and if you all so smart.. calculate how to get.. |
| 12:45.51 | Zoo | 1280x800 |
| 12:45.54 | Zoo | by the sync ranges |
| 12:45.54 | deefzi | adii, wow. that's kinda impressive. i'm studying also atm in the biggest (and the best) technological university in finland, but still the level is not that high |
| 12:45.59 | paulswm | Zoo: Do you actualy have a debian related question? |
| 12:46.00 | Guerin | !ops for fuck's sakes, put Zoo out of his misery |
| 12:46.00 | Zoo | of horizontal and vertical |
| 12:46.03 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: for fuck's sakes, put Zoo out of his misery |
| 12:46.06 | Guerin | oh wait |
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| 12:46.10 | Guerin | i meant OUR misery |
| 12:46.11 | Zoo | that is my debian related question |
| 12:46.20 | paulswm | Zoo: That's hardware realted |
| 12:46.25 | Zoo | still |
| 12:46.30 | Zoo | software and hardware work together |
| 12:46.32 | Guerin | Zoo: inability to secure documentation for your hardware is not a debian problem. |
| 12:46.35 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 12:46.41 | Zoo | because I know that for a fact |
| 12:46.48 | timgoh0 | Zoo: That is a question about resolution. Which could have been resolved earlier if you had READ the X documentation. |
| 12:46.55 | Zoo | why don't you take a the A+, and give them.. thats hardware related |
| 12:46.57 | Guerin | Zoo: i've told you plenty of times how to find it using debian tools; you've ignored me. So go fuck yourself. |
| 12:46.57 | timgoh0 | Zoo: Or ran dpkg-reconfigure on X server. |
| 12:47.05 | Zoo | see if ya past |
| 12:47.09 | Zoo | pass |
| 12:47.12 | PerfDave | Zoo: OK, you've been given a lot of help by a lot of people, including me, and you've ignored it all to talk about guns. I'm going to put you on ignore now. HTH. |
| 12:47.16 | adii | deefzi, we are selected after passing A-levels on our marks. it's like i had the equivalent of A grade in every subjects . here i have E- when i do the better out of me :) |
| 12:47.17 | Zoo | oh yep.. don't foreget to put.. *sigh* |
| 12:47.27 | adii | the best* |
| 12:47.29 | paulswm | Zoo: Just go and install XP, linux is possibly just too hard for you, it appears that reading advice from people here is beyond you |
| 12:47.29 | timgoh0 | Zoo: Medium mode should let you set a resolution that you can tweak manually later. |
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| 12:47.36 | Zoo | fuck off |
| 12:47.38 | Zoo | ;) |
| 12:48.03 | adii | deefzi, have you heard of the french "Ecole polytechnique" (also called ' X ') ? |
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| 12:49.05 | deefzi | adii, in finland a-levels doesn't mean, unfortunately, a shit. even if you've gotten the best grades in a-levels you'd still have to take an entrance examination test. |
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| 12:49.42 | SnuS | err. whatsup with openswan in testing ? :| |
| 12:49.56 | deefzi | adii, only a handful (0-5%) are selected without examinations to school. |
| 12:50.12 | adii | deefzi, same prob with a-levels. do pupils in finland enter a school directly after passing their a levels? |
| 12:50.34 | Guerin | yay, he fucked off |
| 12:50.41 | Guerin | !beer #debian |
| 12:50.50 | deefzi | adii, if they get in, then yes. |
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| 12:51.17 | adii | here most pupils "prepare" a school before entering in |
| 12:51.18 | deefzi | adii, but as said before, boys have to spend six to twelve months in military service. |
| 12:51.27 | adii | oh yea , that sucks |
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| 12:51.41 | ultima | ? |
| 12:51.50 | deefzi | sucks big time. i might to spend 12 months, even if not willing to. :P |
| 12:51.53 | deefzi | +have |
| 12:52.04 | deefzi | (+i'm) |
| 12:52.15 | ultima | wtf army... |
| 12:52.18 | adii | come to france |
| 12:52.46 | ultima | france? just-one-mouth-army? |
| 12:52.52 | deefzi | adii, i heard that you don't speak english publicly, so i would have to learn france. no thanks. it's harder than germany :p |
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| 12:53.17 | adii | yes that's the prob with foreigners : they don't speak french (= |
| 12:53.28 | adii | most of them |
| 12:53.29 | nkuttler | deefzi: hm, most people i know would disagree |
| 12:53.34 | adii | as if french was hard :) |
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| 12:53.47 | ronalde | how can i set gnome-terminal to VT220 navigational key modus, like in xterm by choosing CTRL+left mouse -> 'VT220 keyboard ' |
| 12:53.51 | adii | ultima, what do you mean by "just-one-mouth-army"? |
| 12:54.01 | deefzi | nkuttler, grammar is harder. |
| 12:54.11 | zed_ | -> |
| 12:54.11 | nkuttler | deefzi: french grammar harder? you kidding? |
| 12:54.13 | ultima | adii, only saying... do nothing |
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| 12:54.25 | CodeWarrior_ | morning friends ! |
| 12:54.32 | adii | nkuttler, as a french i would say that german is harder :) |
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| 12:54.43 | adii | ultima, oh , yes, but we don't like armies when they actually "do" something |
| 12:54.44 | deefzi | nkuttler, you must be a native french speaker. |
| 12:54.48 | xtof | hi again, for those who care, my eth1/eth2 card is now up. I had to apt-get install discover, and it magically worked from that point (ok, maybe not magically). Now, I want to know if it's possible to have the information "this card (lspci 0000:02:0a) is eth0, and this one is eth1? |
| 12:55.08 | N0S3 | hello |
| 12:55.09 | adii | xtof, try dmesg | grep eth0 |
| 12:55.13 | nkuttler | i'm bilingual french-german, and i know many language students |
| 12:55.23 | ultima | adii, PLA dislike any army,too |
| 12:55.38 | meff | xtof: sure, you have to pass off some params to the module though |
| 12:55.42 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:55.57 | ultima | adii, but they love themself |
| 12:55.59 | meff | xtof: if the cards are the same chipset that is |
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| 12:56.31 | PerfDave | xtof: One easy option is to use ifrename to force NIC names to particular MAC addresses. |
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| 12:56.37 | dhuv | hello all |
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| 12:56.50 | CodeWarrior_ | I'm still having problems about BootSplash and Debian Sarge (kernel 2.6.8), when in the boot process the graphical screen appears but all verbose message are over it, in the shutdown process the graphical screen is all ok. I got the bootsplash-3.1.6-2.6.8.diff patch from bootsplash.de and RC and RCS from there too. Is there anybody who can help me ? |
| 12:56.51 | xtof | adii, dmesg tells 'eth0: Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter'; lspci gives me a 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller' and a '3Com Corporation 3c900 10BaseT'... Which one is the Yukon?? |
| 12:56.53 | adii | nkuttler, t'es français ? |
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| 12:57.19 | dhuv | I am trying to compile mplayer but for some reason the configure script is detecting that I have GCC 2.96 |
| 12:57.27 | row | Hi there is it possible to boot a cd from grub cmd line? |
| 12:57.28 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.31 | xtof | meff : thanks, but I don't understand (sorry) |
| 12:57.33 | nkuttler | adii: alsacien |
| 12:57.38 | dhuv | I know that I have gcc 3.0 base and gcc 4.0 base installed |
| 12:57.46 | adii | xtof, both "Yukon Gigabit ... 1000Base-T Adapter" and "3Com corporation 3c900 10BaseT" have Base-T |
| 12:57.47 | meff | xtof: build your NIC drivers as modules, and load them in the sequence you want by specifying the modules in order in /etc/modules |
| 12:57.51 | adii | nkuttler, veinard :) |
| 12:57.54 | xtof | PerfDave, I look at the man pages for ifrename and try that, thanks |
| 12:58.00 | dhuv | when i do cc --version it reports 4.0.2 |
| 12:58.17 | dhuv | how can I get the configure script to detect that I have a recent version of GCC? |
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| 12:58.46 | PerfDave | xtof: It's pretty simple, you just set up an /etc/iftab with "eth-foo mac 00:ab:cd:ef" and so on. I have eth-wired and eth-wifi on my box now :) |
| 12:58.46 | adii | ça doit être agaçant pour les profs alsacien qui viennent d'autres régions d'avoir des élèves meilleurs qu'eux |
| 12:58.50 | resiak | dhuv: CC=/path/to/your/c/compiler ./configure . Why are you building mplayer from source? |
| 12:58.58 | xtof | adii, thanks (merci beaucoup)! |
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| 12:59.20 | Subvertir | the mplayer license precludes distributing binaries |
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| 12:59.45 | Merwin | salut |
| 12:59.47 | meff | xtof: ifrename works fine but if you want the "eth#" in the sequence you want you'll need to do what i said.. so use whatever fits |
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| 12:59.51 | adii | salut |
| 12:59.57 | PerfDave | Subvertir: You're thinking of qmail. mplayer isn't in Debian for patent-encumberment reasons, but is in marillat for those of us living in civilised countries :) |
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| 13:00.06 | ultima | ? |
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| 13:00.11 | resiak | dhuv, Subvertir: But why not just install the binaries from Marillat's repos? /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 13:00.27 | xtof | meff, PerfDave thank you for your tips, I'll look deeper into these informations |
| 13:00.35 | resiak | PerfDave: Hey, our country isn't perfect ;) |
| 13:00.35 | bayer_ | what's the best way to make apt-get work through a firewall? |
| 13:01.07 | PerfDave | bayer_: Ask your firewall admin to allow outgoing http or ftp to a debian repository. |
| 13:01.17 | Subvertir | No... mplayer -really- precludes distributing binaries |
| 13:02.18 | adii | how can i do so it stops flooding with : "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" (installing i386 sarge on an AMD 64) |
| 13:02.40 | Subvertir | I actually use mplayer on win32, and it kicks the shit out of windows media! |
| 13:02.51 | tarzeau | i can not make click on <a href="mailto:BAD.MOTHER@FUCKER.COM"> in FIREFOX make open a write to mail window in THUNDERBIRD with prefilled To: BAD.MOTHER@FUCKER.COM? |
| 13:03.11 | tarzeau | i check manual page of THUNDERBIRD and it doesn't know parameters |
| 13:03.12 | PerfDave | adii: Hmm, you could try booting the installer with the "noapic" option, or making sure that your AMD64 system's BIOS is up to date. |
| 13:03.23 | resiak | ElectricElf: May I /msg you regarding the need for ops who are actually active in this channel? |
| 13:03.47 | tarzeau | clicking on this link only opens thunderbird but not a new mail. pls. hlp. |
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| 13:04.15 | row | Does grub support cdrom access? |
| 13:04.37 | meff | row: due to all the livecds i see with it, iirc yes ;) |
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| 13:05.17 | stanleyg_ | Hi can anybody ehlp me setup Dovecot |
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| 13:05.27 | meff | !ask |
| 13:05.27 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:05.44 | adii | PerfDave, ok i'll try as soon as the install finishes |
| 13:05.52 | PerfDave | stanleyg_: IIRC there was quite a good guide on dovecot recently published on http://www.debian-administration.org/ |
| 13:05.55 | sep | tarzeau, read http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/05/msg00114.html ? |
| 13:06.11 | row | meff: do you know if they refer to cd devices the same way as harddisk or if its cd0 or something? |
| 13:06.17 | PerfDave | adii: You can also set prinkt to disable displaying those messages to the console but I can't remember the correct incantation. |
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| 13:06.35 | meff | row: no clue.. look at the RIP rescue cd's files and i bet you'll find out :) |
| 13:06.36 | stanleyg_ | PerfDave: TA, will go have a look |
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| 13:06.50 | petemc | !printk console |
| 13:06.51 | dpkg | i heard printk console is see docs for sysctl and set kernel.printk to 3 4 1 7 or so. If you want to know what those numbers mean, see the file Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt in your kernel sources. |
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| 13:07.04 | tarzeau | sep: oh crap. what are the gconftool values good for then? |
| 13:07.11 | adii | PerfDave, lol ok i'll have a look |
| 13:07.16 | meff | row: http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ this rescue cd uses grub and has info on dissecting it |
| 13:07.33 | tarzeau | sep: this does not work gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command -t string "/usr/bin/thunderbird %s" |
| 13:07.51 | tarzeau | sep: what if i want to use thunderbird with an email address from commandline? or from another browser? a REAL BROWSER |
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| 13:08.06 | row | meff: ta |
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| 13:08.37 | meff | row: np |
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| 13:08.55 | N0S3 | hello , how to reinstall "GRUB"?? |
| 13:09.08 | tarzeau | N0S3: grub-install device |
| 13:09.12 | meff | N0S3: grub-install (hd#) |
| 13:09.25 | sep | tarzeau, when i open gcomftool i see regedit before my eyes and close it quickly. never plaied with the thing |
| 13:09.34 | dhuv | resiak: I still get the same errors |
| 13:09.47 | resiak | dhuv: ... or you could just install marillat's mplayer binaries |
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| 13:09.54 | tarzeau | sep: the thing is i need to configure this for alot of users. |
| 13:10.04 | N0S3 | meff tarzeau , but my PC doesn't start up |
| 13:10.14 | tarzeau | N0S3: use a live cd? |
| 13:10.27 | meff | N0S3: boot off a rescue cd, chroot to your install, and do the grub-install cm |
| 13:10.27 | Merwin | hello |
| 13:10.29 | meff | cmd |
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| 13:10.35 | tarzeau | sep: ah cool debian puts the prefs.js into /etc/mozilla/ |
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| 13:11.11 | dhuv | resiak: where are those? |
| 13:11.12 | N0S3 | im only have a CD of debian sarge |
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| 13:11.36 | pumpkin0 | N0S3: no problem, these are bootable. |
| 13:11.38 | meff | i believe the install cd has a mechanism for reinstalling the bootloader but im not sure |
| 13:11.49 | resiak | dhuv: /msg dpkg marillat , like I already said |
| 13:12.04 | dhuv | resiak: thanks |
| 13:12.12 | N0S3 | pumpkin0 with a CD1 of debian sarge , i can install GRUB only? |
| 13:12.28 | dhuv | resiak: I think I know why, I have gcc 4.0 installed thats why, the error says you need 2.95 or 3.x |
| 13:12.31 | meff | N0S3: type 'rescue' at the boot prompt |
| 13:12.39 | dhuv | how would I go back if I ever wanted to? |
| 13:12.51 | N0S3 | aahhh meff ok |
| 13:13.04 | resiak | dhuv: Go back to what? |
| 13:13.15 | dhuv | go back to gcc 3.x |
| 13:13.20 | resiak | dhuv: Uninstall 4 |
| 13:13.26 | resiak | dhuv: Are you running Sid? |
| 13:13.29 | N0S3 | "Could not find kernel image: rescue" |
| 13:13.32 | N0S3 | meff ? |
| 13:13.36 | meff | durr |
| 13:13.41 | dhuv | resiak: yes |
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| 13:13.54 | meff | thats a diff dist lol.. sorry, N0S3 hit F1 F2 etc. till you come to a page with boot options |
| 13:14.04 | meff | there should be a rescue mode |
| 13:14.07 | N0S3 | ahh ok thanks |
| 13:14.09 | resiak | Yay! More people using Sid who shouldn't be! \o/ |
| 13:14.12 | meff | if not, then im totally nuts today |
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| 13:14.43 | meff | resiak: lol.. but i want the newest pkgs even if it breaks all my stuff!! .. er.. |
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| 13:15.13 | kurj | Hola.. when i shutdown my sarge, it finishes with Power Off and doesn't turn off the computer from power.. in XP it does.. how can i make it poweroff? |
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| 13:15.35 | dhuv | resiak: :) sorry about that |
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| 13:15.44 | meff | resiak: there should be a sid quiz on the debian page, about apt-cache, apt-get, dpkg, general nix knowledge, etc.. |
| 13:15.59 | resiak | kurj: Are you using a 2.4 kernel? You may want to try a 2.6 kernel and see if that helps. I don't know, though. |
| 13:16.07 | resiak | meff: Such a quiz has been discussed before ;) |
| 13:16.45 | kurj | resiak: yes, i use 2.4 kernel.. but when i try 2.6 it doesn't reconize my SATA harddrive.. |
| 13:17.16 | resiak | kurj: Argh! Not a clue about how to sort that ... sorry |
| 13:17.23 | meff | resiak: it should happen, because you at least need general debian knowledge enough to fix simple pkging problems. i see many people run sid w/ no clue and go running when there's a conflict or whatnot :x |
| 13:17.37 | resiak | meff: I guess that's why we have !sid faq |
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| 13:17.49 | cheitozz | gentoo-es |
| 13:17.59 | asg | no, debian-en |
| 13:18.08 | meff | hehe |
| 13:18.14 | cheitozz | :S |
| 13:18.16 | kurj | resiak: Ok.. thanks .. |
| 13:18.17 | cheitozz | scuse me |
| 13:18.30 | cheitozz | excuse me |
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| 13:18.44 | kurj | Does someone knows how to fix that my Kernel 2.6 will reconize my SATA harddrive and wont PANIC (and stop the boot)? |
| 13:19.03 | meff | what chipset kurj |
| 13:19.29 | meff | and uhm.. retype that sentence in correct english |
| 13:19.33 | meff | i dont understand |
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| 13:23.06 | dorto | what is the best way to search for source code of an app? is there a repository at debian.org? |
| 13:23.41 | PerfDave | dorto: Read the APT HOWTO on working with source packages. Chapter 6, IIRC. |
| 13:23.42 | meff | dorto: apt-get source? |
| 13:23.49 | dorto | k |
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| 13:24.23 | dorto | can i use apt-cache search for searching source files too? |
| 13:25.02 | dorto | and where are HOWTOs installed? |
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| 13:25.23 | Roey | hello |
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| 13:25.49 | jm_ | dorto: no, list the contents of the package in question to find out |
| 13:26.01 | PerfDave | dorto: dpkg -L will tell you the contents of any installed package. I'd expect that documentation packages will go in /usr/share/doc/ |
| 13:26.41 | dorto | how to find the details if the source package is not installed? |
| 13:26.54 | PerfDave | Find the details of what? |
| 13:27.08 | Roey | I'm trying to install the VMWare Player and it wants the dir for the kernel headers. As I'm running kernel 2.6.11. There's no kernel-headers package for this verison? There is a -source; is that equivalent? |
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| 13:27.19 | jm_ | Roey: yes there is |
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| 13:27.33 | dorto | say, details about the size of the source package of 'diff' if i don't have it installed already |
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| 13:27.52 | PerfDave | dorto: You can probably find such information on http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 13:28.00 | dorto | k |
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| 13:28.38 | kurj | meff: I have 686 , 32 bit. and i'm using sata harddrive. When i boot it says: pivot_root: No such file or directory |
| 13:28.42 | kurj | /sbin/init: 426:cannot open /dev/console: No such file |
| 13:28.42 | kurj | Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 13:29.05 | abusado | emox@Debian:~/.irssi$ ls |
| 13:29.06 | abusado | bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 13:29.08 | abusado | :( |
| 13:29.12 | meff | yes, which sata chipset kurj ? |
| 13:29.40 | Roey | jm_: where is it? |
| 13:29.46 | Roey | jm_: or what is the package's name? |
| 13:29.56 | jm_ | Roey: do you know that kernel-image packages have been renamed? |
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| 13:30.04 | kurj | meff: How can i check? |
| 13:30.08 | Roey | jm_: oh I don't! |
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| 13:30.15 | Roey | jm_: thanks |
| 13:30.16 | meff | kurj: look in your motherboard manual? :) |
| 13:30.18 | Roey | jm_: what's the new name? |
| 13:30.19 | jm_ | Roey: are you using unstable? |
| 13:30.40 | kurj | meff: no other way to do that? |
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| 13:31.04 | meff | kurj: you should really know your hardware before toying with linux |
| 13:31.12 | Roey | jm_: yeah |
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| 13:31.29 | jm_ | Roey: and you don't know about this? you should seriously reconsider using sid |
| 13:31.30 | kurj | meff: hmm.. any dygnosis program? |
| 13:31.39 | Roey | jm_: kernel-headers.2.6.12-* appears in apt-cache search's listings but not 2.6.11 |
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| 13:32.01 | Roey | jm_: maybe I'm unfit for linux, having not known this obvious piece of information ;) |
| 13:32.05 | jm_ | Roey: how about apt-cache search kernel headers? |
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| 13:32.22 | kurj | meff: diagnosis.. |
| 13:32.26 | jm_ | Roey: no seriously, it will bite you much harder one day |
| 13:32.45 | kurj | meff: so , let's say i have a simple chipset and a generic one.. what should i do? |
| 13:32.52 | Roey | jm_: I've been using sid for the past five years. |
| 13:32.54 | takatumi | no .11 headers here as well, is there one? |
| 13:32.59 | meff | kurj: then it shouldnt fail booting :) |
| 13:33.06 | Roey | jm_: I've just only recently started using debian kernels though |
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| 13:33.30 | jm_ | Roey: I would still expect that someone who has been using sid for 5 years would know how to find Debian packages |
| 13:33.40 | kurj | meff: didn't get it.. |
| 13:33.58 | Roey | jm_: I think I've found something at snapshot.debian.org |
| 13:34.01 | Roey | jm_: thanks anyway. |
| 13:34.21 | meff | ... |
| 13:34.27 | jm_ | Roey: that's for old packages yes - 2.6.11 is no longer in sid |
| 13:34.44 | Roey | jm_: ok, that's the explanation I needed then |
| 13:35.19 | Roey | jm_: I could upgrade to 2.6.12 I guess. |
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| 13:35.32 | Roey | amorphix: I don't know? can you /msg an op here? |
| 13:35.37 | jm_ | Roey: or .13 from experimental if you feel like it |
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| 13:35.52 | Roey | jm_: nah that's fine. |
| 13:35.55 | Roey | thanks |
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| 13:37.16 | robin_sz | sigh .... |
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| 13:37.42 | robin_sz | imagine for a moment I want to set up a normal software raid with two disks |
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| 13:38.20 | robin_sz | now imagine my hardware vendor *and I use the term loosely* has shipped with one broken disk, one good disk |
| 13:38.22 | kurj | meff: ? |
| 13:38.32 | jengelh | xinetd is somewhat broken wrt. tftpd |
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| 13:39.30 | Sedgwick | hey I need some help |
| 13:39.39 | robin_sz | can I set up as RAID1, with one disk, one spare disk, (having the spare onbe missing right now) and run on one raid disk, then rebuild the other one when a spare drive arrives? |
| 13:39.53 | valdyn | robin_sz: sure |
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| 13:40.26 | bibe | hi all. how can I set the default umask for files/dirs uploaded via 'scp'? I tried setting 'umask 002' in ~/.bash_profile (and changing the shell to /bin/bash), and even in /etc/profile, but with no luck. Is there a particular configuration option to pass to the ssh/sftp server? |
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| 13:41.28 | asg | bibe: set it in ~/.bashrc |
| 13:42.04 | Sedgwick | when it try's to bring up the login manager, it flashes the screen 6 times then says the screen blanked out 6 times within the last 90 seconds and will try again in 2 mins |
| 13:42.32 | fireba11 | what does it mean if make talls me "make: *** No rule to make target `cloneconfig`- Stop" |
| 13:42.58 | meff | fireba11: what you just said.. |
| 13:43.15 | jengelh | fireba11 : That specific kernel tree does not have cloneconfig. That's a privilegue of better distros. |
| 13:43.17 | fireba11 | meff: and what can i do about that ? |
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| 13:43.33 | ncp | Is vhost enabled as default in apache2? |
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| 13:43.48 | meff | fireba11: if the target doesnt exist then you obviously can't make it :) |
| 13:43.48 | fireba11 | jengelh: hwo do i provide kernel config for VMware then ? |
| 13:43.49 | brt | hello |
| 13:43.50 | jengelh | ncp: not that I know of, it's the same as in apache1 |
| 13:43.55 | Sedgwick | when it try's to bring up the login manager, it flashes the screen 6 times then says the screen blanked out 6 times within the last 90 seconds and will try again in 2 mins |
| 13:43.56 | jengelh | fireba11 : gzip -cd /proc/config.gz >.config |
| 13:44.03 | bibe | asg : the file is still rw-r--r-- |
| 13:44.06 | brt | is "grub-install --force-lba" known to be safe ? |
| 13:44.17 | poncha|work | data dvds are cdfs actally? (iso9660 ? ) |
| 13:44.22 | asg | bibe: you have to logout/login again or 'source ~/.bashrc' |
| 13:44.39 | brt | i cant install grub on my sata (ich5) hd :( |
| 13:44.42 | meff | poncha|work: data dvd's are usually udf |
| 13:45.08 | ncp | jengelh: Do you know what i should install to get vhost enabled? or can i fix it in .conf? |
| 13:45.26 | meff | brt: works fine on my ICH7.. you sure your giving it the right hd#,# ? |
| 13:45.27 | jengelh | NameVirtualHost *:80 |
| 13:45.34 | darkness | If i've reconfigured correctly my console-data yet still get keymapping problems.Any other area to try? |
| 13:45.35 | guru | is there a way i can confirm that acpi is working properly? i see the relevant messages in dmesg | grep -i acpi (ACPI: Interpreter enabled) however wmbattery reports "Error: No APM, ACPI, or SPIC support in kernel" |
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| 13:46.07 | Sedgwick | does anyone know why when i try to bring up the login manager, it flashes the screen 6 times then says the screen blanked out 6 times within the last 90 seconds and will try again in 2 mins |
| 13:46.23 | meff | Sedgwick: you need to fix x's config |
| 13:46.27 | asg | Sedgwick: because you didn't configure X correctly |
| 13:46.28 | guru | Sedgwick: sounds like a bollixed config |
| 13:46.40 | brt | meff: grub-install hd1,0 gives me: /dev/sda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. |
| 13:46.41 | Sedgwick | can I just reinstall it? |
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| 13:47.14 | asg | Sedgwick: /msg dpkg nodm (so you can get out of the loop you're in.) then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 13:47.44 | robin_sz | agh, fooey, hows has it managed to set itself off with no swap partition? |
| 13:47.49 | ncp | never mind got it working :) |
| 13:48.24 | bibe | asg : yes, but I don't log in, I am scp'ing from a remote host |
| 13:48.25 | brt | meff: maybe its because of a special bios |
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| 13:48.54 | meff | brt: special? how? |
| 13:49.02 | bibe | asg : if I log in, there's no problem, umask is 002 and files are created with rw-rw-r-- permissions |
| 13:49.34 | brt | i would like to know if "grub-install --force-lba" can damage the bios |
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| 13:50.12 | Raymond__ | hi all |
| 13:50.24 | brt | meff: its a server board with watchdog and some strange hd-mapping options |
| 13:50.30 | robin_sz | right, I need some more RAID clue, a copy of Outlook Express for Debian and is there a version of Debian that runs under Windows XP? |
| 13:50.44 | Raymond__ | i need some help with a debian floppy installation. Who can help me? |
| 13:50.51 | robin_sz | (the last two items may not be serious) |
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| 13:51.38 | PerfDave | Raymond__: Have you read the Debian Installation Manual? |
| 13:51.55 | brt | meff: i didnt have a look at the bios, its just told, its a remote machine... |
| 13:51.59 | Raymond__ | Yes i read it |
| 13:52.14 | Raymond__ | but the machine i have has only 16mb of ram |
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| 13:52.23 | ideafix | hi |
| 13:52.27 | robin_sz | buy more ram? |
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| 13:52.39 | PerfDave | Raymond__: So your problem is not with the floppy install, it's with the fact that you've got less RAM in the system than the installer requires? |
| 13:52.54 | ideafix | could any one explain something to me ? |
| 13:53.02 | meff | !ask |
| 13:53.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:53.13 | Raymond__ | PrefDave:sorry yes thats it!:D |
| 13:53.39 | Raymond__ | but i still want to install it some how how can i do that |
| 13:53.48 | Roey | hi all |
| 13:53.52 | jowi | hi all. how do i install a ISA NIC? installer does not detect it. module 3c509 loaded manually but make no difference. |
| 13:54.06 | robin_sz | PerfDave, greetings :) |
| 13:54.13 | Roey | I tried to install kernel 2.6.12 and I get this: Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp (2.6.12-10) ... |
| 13:54.13 | Roey | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: line 1443: mkext2fs: command not found |
| 13:54.13 | Roey | Failed to create initrd image. What's going on?? |
| 13:54.14 | ideafix | linus said that he dosent go much for standarts does this means he doesnt aprouve the LSM ? |
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| 13:54.53 | PerfDave | Raymond__: I have no idea how to make the Debian installer require less RAM than it requires. |
| 13:55.02 | Ronin | ideafix: you'd have to ask him i suspect |
| 13:55.02 | ideafix | isnt LSM gona makr linux esyer to hack since every distro behaves the same way ? |
| 13:55.05 | robin_sz | Roey, is ther some really good reason for not just sticking a slab of RAM into it? |
| 13:55.18 | cheal | hey PerfDave |
| 13:55.24 | Roey | robin_sz: hmm? |
| 13:55.52 | robin_sz | sorry meant Raymond__ |
| 13:56.09 | ideafix | isnt LSM gona make linux easyer to hack since every distro behaves the same way ? |
| 13:56.28 | dorto | i want to mount an iso file on a directory everytime debian boots. where should i put the 'mount' cmd? or should i use fstab file? |
| 13:56.35 | Roey | robin_sz: oh, ok :) |
| 13:56.44 | Raymond__ | PrefDave : hmm well that's that. THX anyway |
| 13:57.13 | PerfDave | dorto: fstab is the correct place to put information about filesystems which should be mounted at boot. |
| 13:57.13 | robin_sz | Raymond__, there is still a use for the machine though .... |
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| 13:57.33 | robin_sz | Raymond__, do you have a gun? |
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| 13:57.39 | ideafix | PerfDave: what about automount ? |
| 13:57.56 | cheal | Roey: #304639 |
| 13:58.16 | Raymond__ | robin_sz: i know i know every one makes fun of it |
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| 13:58.22 | hanz | RAMDISK: image too big! <- workaround? |
| 13:58.28 | PerfDave | ideafix: Not relevant here. |
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| 13:58.47 | robin_sz | Raymond__, it would perhaps run Smoothwall |
| 13:58.53 | ideafix | isnt automount to automount file systems ? |
| 13:58.56 | Doud | hi all |
| 13:59.00 | Roey | cheal: oh thanks :90 |
| 13:59.04 | Roey | cheal: you're so helpful |
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| 13:59.06 | Doud | didn't think there would be so many people here :) |
| 13:59.36 | Doud | can someone lend me a few minutes of his time ? |
| 13:59.42 | dorto | is this the channel with highest no of people? |
| 13:59.46 | asg | !tell Doud about ask |
| 13:59.48 | dorto | !ask |
| 13:59.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:59.54 | cheal | dorto: no. #gentoo would, I think |
| 13:59.59 | PerfDave | ideafix: automount is, AFAIK, used to mount filesystems when devices are connected to the system etc. It's not really relevant to mounting filesystems automatically at boot time. |
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| 14:00.09 | dorto | yeah..gentoo has ~750 |
| 14:00.23 | asg | dorto: that's because many people have left #debian |
| 14:00.29 | dorto | why? |
| 14:00.36 | Doud | oops, soz guys, thought reading the topic would be enough ;) |
| 14:00.37 | dorto | for gentoo and ubuntu? |
| 14:00.41 | asg | dorto: /msg dpkg fable |
| 14:00.46 | Raymond__ | robin_sz: hmm google it:D |
| 14:01.08 | poncha|work | meff, do you have an idea how is encoding used for filenmames on udf filesystem is decided? i've seen --utf8 option on mkudffs , however when run nero on win32 i dont see any option of selecting encoding there :/ |
| 14:02.07 | dorto | i had only one question each for #gentoo and #ubuntu and i don't get even that answered there >_> |
| 14:02.09 | fireba11 | poncha|work: nero got options for encoding though |
| 14:02.13 | dorto | #debian rocks |
| 14:02.24 | PerfDave | dorto: #debian is clearly the best channel ever, despite being a shadow of its former self :) |
| 14:02.42 | poncha|work | fireba11, hm... i might have missed them :) where should i look in such a case? :) [there are none in udf-dvd compilation properties] |
| 14:02.48 | cheal | PerfDave: oh, so you're back here? ;) |
| 14:02.49 | Doud | sooooo... what should I do exactly ? -_- |
| 14:02.58 | asg | Doud: just ask your question, we'll do what we can to help. |
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| 14:03.20 | PerfDave | cheal: Thought I'd stick my head in. |
| 14:03.32 | dorto | i get my general gnu/linux queries too answered here |
| 14:03.49 | Ketter | PerfDave: don't get stuck :P |
| 14:03.51 | cheal | PerfDave: great. do you realize this is the best channel ever now? :) |
| 14:04.10 | Doud | I'm having a problem with the fglrx driver |
| 14:04.19 | Doud | namely it works fine but only as root |
| 14:04.26 | Doud | anyone got this problem before ? |
| 14:04.46 | N0S3_1 | some rescue Cd for debian 3. 1? |
| 14:05.22 | PerfDave | cheal: No, it's clearly not :) |
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| 14:06.13 | cheal | PerfDave: you know that's because you haven't been here for a while ;) |
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| 14:08.01 | hanz | how to fix this problem: http://nopaste.php-q.net/167538 i think the initrd img cannot be loaded. |
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| 14:08.42 | Bombo | hi |
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| 14:09.14 | Bombo | what do i need to do in debian/sarge wo see the users that logged in via xdm with the 'w' command? |
| 14:09.19 | Landslide | can i change a mounted partition from readonly without remounting it? |
| 14:09.25 | Bombo | i can see the user with "who" but not with "w" |
| 14:09.36 | thomas_adam | Bombo: That's not true. |
| 14:09.37 | Bombo | with w i only see ssh users |
| 14:09.47 | Bombo | thomas_adam: yes its true. |
| 14:09.57 | nite613 | Landslide: no, the closest you can come is -o remount |
| 14:10.15 | stew | hanz: do you use lilo or grub? |
| 14:10.16 | nite613 | which should do what you need |
| 14:10.24 | N0S3_1 | some rescue Cd for debian 3. 1 ?????? |
| 14:10.25 | hanz | stew: grub |
| 14:10.25 | Bombo | thomas_adam: the output of "who" and "w" differs. |
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| 14:10.49 | stew | hanz: is there an initrd= line for this kernel in the menu.lst? |
| 14:10.51 | Landslide | ok thanks |
| 14:11.19 | thomas_adam | Bombo: Yes, it would do -- two different programs. |
| 14:11.22 | stew | hanz: is this a debian kernel or one you compiled? |
| 14:11.28 | asg | Bombo: w is basically who -u |
| 14:11.37 | hanz | debian kernel, and yes initrd |
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| 14:12.09 | Bombo | thomas_adam: "who" shows one user logged in on :0 while "w" doesn't show him. |
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| 14:12.30 | hanz | stew: privmsg the lines from menu.lst? |
| 14:12.33 | thomas_adam | Bombo: That's not what I see on my system here. |
| 14:12.39 | asg | Doud: http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#startxnonroot |
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| 14:12.56 | takatumi | thomas_adam: long time. |
| 14:12.57 | Bombo | asg: who -u also shows the :0 user here |
| 14:13.03 | thomas_adam | takatumi: Yeah. |
| 14:13.24 | asg | Bombo: yes, that's why I said basically |
| 14:13.29 | Bombo | thomas_adam: well ok. but on my system it is what i see. what could cause this behaviour? |
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| 14:13.41 | hanz | stew: i am using a custom kernel without initrd. it works. the 2.6 debian kernel does not work. it uses initrd. |
| 14:13.50 | abrotman | thomas_adam: you came back! .. did you bring g4lt with you? |
| 14:14.04 | thomas_adam | abrotman: He's still missing? Pity. |
| 14:14.14 | thomas_adam | dpkg: seen kawfee? |
| 14:14.15 | dpkg | kawfee <~kawfee@CPE-24-166-190-59.kc.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 365d 22h 1m 28s ago, saying: 'helix: silence'. |
| 14:14.23 | abrotman | thomas_adam: he's been on freenode ... just not here |
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| 14:15.00 | sysa | alguien habla español |
| 14:15.05 | N0S3_1 | some rescue Cd or diskette for debian 3. 1 ?????? |
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| 14:15.17 | eliteforce | what package do i need for php4 fastcgi and where is the executable located? |
| 14:15.19 | asg | !es |
| 14:15.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:15.21 | asg | sysa: ^^^ |
| 14:15.21 | wendell | #manaus |
| 14:15.29 | hanz | stew: no hint for me? |
| 14:15.35 | sysa | gracias |
| 14:15.38 | asg | N0S3_1: the install disc can be used to rescue a system or knoppix or whatever |
| 14:15.40 | asg | de nada |
| 14:15.51 | abrotman | php4 fastcgi ? |
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| 14:16.10 | nvz | ah well if these 7 books I checked out wont occupy my time at work, I dont know what will |
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| 14:16.20 | abrotman | isn't fastcgi perl .. and php .. well .. php ? |
| 14:16.32 | asg | eliteforce: php4-cgi and libapache-mod-fastcgi |
| 14:16.34 | N0S3_1 | asg the install disc? I have the cd I number 1 |
| 14:16.34 | N0S3_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.34 | eliteforce | abrotman: yes php works too |
| 14:16.49 | asg | eliteforce: why you would want to do that is beyond me though since libapache-mod-php4 is much more efficient. |
| 14:17.00 | eliteforce | asg: i font use apche |
| 14:17.07 | eliteforce | asg: i dont use apache |
| 14:17.09 | stew | hanz: dunno, it sounds like your initrd is setup correctly, to me |
| 14:17.10 | asg | N0S3_1: insert Disc. Boot to first menu. ALT+F2 |
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| 14:17.25 | jengelh | !maint tftpd-hpa |
| 14:17.31 | nvz | I got a bunch of books written by Ph.D. and M.D. that seem to agree with my philosophy on Health and Disease. which is that most of this shit today is literally, figurativly and imaginitivly all in your head. |
| 14:17.40 | N0S3_1 | asg ok wait a moment |
| 14:17.41 | asg | eliteforce: okay, the php4-cgi and whatever fastcgi implementation on whatever your webster is |
| 14:17.57 | asg | N0S3_1: you then need to mount partitions and chroot. |
| 14:18.05 | eliteforce | asf: i installed php4-cgi but if i run /usr/bin/php -v it says cli instead of fcgi |
| 14:18.24 | N0S3_1 | asg ALT+F2 ? |
| 14:18.33 | N0S3_1 | asg are you sure? |
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| 14:18.42 | asg | N0S3_1: on your keyboard, Alt+F2 |
| 14:18.51 | dpkg | tftpd-hpa: Jaakko Niemi <liiwi@debian.org> |
| 14:19.01 | asg | N0S3_1: that will get you to a root shell within the installer |
| 14:19.15 | stew | N0S3_1: i'm sure too, as long as you boot as far as the language menu |
| 14:19.47 | asg | N0S3_1: you may want to go to the part where it detects your hard disks if you don't know how to mount them manually |
| 14:20.00 | jengelh | How can I make tftpd-hpa not send ident queries, without modifying the source? |
| 14:20.03 | abrotman | eliteforce: apt-cache search php4 cgi |
| 14:20.04 | Bombo | what package is "w" in? $ apt-file search /usr/bin/w|grep "/w$" unfortunately didnt give me any results |
| 14:20.06 | Landslide | how do I do check file attributes ? is it fstat? |
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| 14:20.14 | abrotman | eliteforce: but i think what you're looking for doesn't exist |
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| 14:20.16 | Bombo | maybe my w is buggy? |
| 14:20.23 | eliteforce | abrotman: php4-cgi is the right package :D the path was wrong |
| 14:20.36 | abrotman | eliteforce: oh .. that's not fastcgi .. just cgi |
| 14:20.41 | eliteforce | abrotman: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4 |
| 14:20.47 | eliteforce | abrotman: -v says fcgi |
| 14:20.51 | abrotman | eliteforce: i think it's a link .. but ok |
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| 14:21.00 | abrotman | eliteforce: ok .. have fun! |
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| 14:21.42 | nvz | actually this one book I got just because reading the title I thought it was about protitution. it was called "how to sell yourself" and it wasnt really in the right section for business related books |
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| 14:22.04 | dorto | none at #ubuntu can tell me how to install ubuntu on 10+ systems if i don't want to use internet for every machine :( |
| 14:22.06 | N0S3_1 | asg stew I am in the language screen |
| 14:22.12 | dorto | anyone here knows? |
| 14:22.21 | Ronin | dorto: wrong channel |
| 14:22.28 | row | How do I mount a bin/cue with mount, it wants a filesystem type |
| 14:22.45 | nvz | dorto: then don't use ubuntu |
| 14:22.46 | PerfDave | dorto: #debian is not the right place for Ubuntu questions, because Debian is not Ubuntu. |
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| 14:22.55 | dorto | yep :( |
| 14:22.56 | Bombo | row: extract the iso9660 with bchunk |
| 14:23.25 | SnuS | err. whatsup with openswan in testing ? "Package openswan is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
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| 14:23.41 | nvz | dorto: or install it on one, and use the apt-cacher package so that the rest of the machines can then install from the first |
| 14:23.47 | Bombo | row: if its not a video disc, is it? |
| 14:24.07 | Ivychatu4 | !list |
| 14:24.08 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to ivychatu4@is.a.fucktard.com |
| 14:24.13 | row | Bombo: no its not |
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| 14:24.34 | dorto | nvz: i have good internet connection in my office. i wanted to d/l everything there, carry it to home and install on all my systems from there |
| 14:24.49 | dorto | like i did for debian: d/l two dvds in office |
| 14:24.59 | dorto | used the same to install on all systems at my home |
| 14:25.08 | nvz | dorto: go ahead :P I cant tell you how to do it. I can only give you debian answers |
| 14:25.13 | abrotman | dorto: we told you that last week .. if you have ubuntu questions .. ask #ubuntu |
| 14:25.15 | Bombo | row: then you have to extract the .iso image with bchunk, and then mount the .iso with -o iso9660 |
| 14:25.22 | asg | !they don't know |
| 14:25.22 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 14:25.25 | nvz | abrotman: he didn't get the memo I guess |
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| 14:25.37 | abrotman | nvz: he was a moron last week too |
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| 14:26.10 | abrotman | now all we need is to have en1gma show up |
| 14:26.13 | dorto | oh |
| 14:26.28 | abrotman | dorto: either install debian .. or go to #ubuntu .. please |
| 14:26.33 | N0S3_1 | stew |
| 14:26.33 | tombs | hi all |
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| 14:26.35 | dorto | i thought i can request for /msg |
| 14:26.36 | nvz | he should get a library card... not that its gaurenteed to make you any smarter.. hell look at me I am still a yinzer |
| 14:26.43 | Applejax33 | u know i still want a borrito |
| 14:26.47 | N0S3_1 | stew I am in the language screen |
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| 14:27.00 | abrotman | !tell Applejax33 about u |
| 14:27.12 | N0S3_1 | stew how that I make? |
| 14:27.14 | stew | N0S3_1: hit alt-f2 |
| 14:27.30 | N0S3_1 | stew ok |
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| 14:27.47 | Applejax33 | lol |
| 14:28.02 | dorto | !tell Applejax33 about lol |
| 14:28.26 | N0S3_1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:28.31 | abrotman | nvz: it doesn't open at 10 ? |
| 14:28.32 | N0S3_1 | stew? |
| 14:28.43 | nvz | abrotman: nope, 11 |
| 14:28.48 | stew | N0S3_1: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:28.54 | stew | N0S3_1: that should get you a shell |
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| 14:29.02 | abrotman | nvz: you must live in an upscale neighborhood :) |
| 14:29.08 | nvz | abrotman: I was just down there and Chuck was in there flipping me the bird through the window |
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| 14:29.30 | nvz | abrotman: sort-of its close to one anyhow. |
| 14:29.38 | N0S3_1 | stew yes, i in the shell |
| 14:29.38 | abrotman | heh |
| 14:29.46 | nvz | abrotman: Sewickley is a richy neighborhood |
| 14:29.46 | abrotman | !es |
| 14:29.46 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:29.52 | abrotman | nvz: i've been there .. i know |
| 14:29.57 | Applejax33 | dammit i am an aohell user |
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| 14:30.16 | stew | N0S3_1: mount your partitions and rescue away |
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| 14:31.12 | deepan | i am not able to mount my ipod.. mount reports "input output error.. cannot read superblock.. " but my ipod works very well .. am able to play all the songs in that.. and access it through windows... dmesg says the following.. "buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 999935;end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 7999480;Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 999935;" |
| 14:31.15 | N0S3_1 | stew , do you know some it pag where says the steps? |
| 14:31.15 | N0S3_1 | |
| 14:31.23 | nvz | abrotman: our Liquor store the Quaker Village Wine & Spirits Shop is pretty much a clone of the Sewickley Wine & Spirits Shop only they dont have to put up with chuck.. he works in the one in Leetsdale now. |
| 14:31.46 | abrotman | nvz: you're such a snob :) |
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| 14:32.26 | nvz | abrotman: charles roland is our local gossip queen. he has no life of his own but to gossip about everyone else. |
| 14:32.30 | abrotman | !ipod |
| 14:32.30 | dpkg | methinks ipod is a purty silver and white or black box, definitely not bigger tha a bread box. Would be better if it supported some non-encumbered formats. apt-get install gtkpod, or see http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alinux1394.org+ipod for proof that it really does work under linux. |
| 14:32.45 | stew | N0S3_1: steps for what exactly? |
| 14:32.46 | abrotman | nvz: you're gossipping about him though |
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| 14:33.03 | nvz | abrotman: we have a saying in the Quaker Valley. "What are the three fastest ways to get news around the valley? Telephone, Telegraph, or Tell a Roland" |
| 14:33.05 | braindead_moron | anyone know how to scroll "up" in a screen process? |
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| 14:33.13 | N0S3_1 | stew , if, steps to reinstall grub |
| 14:33.16 | dorto | if only ipod supported .ogg format |
| 14:33.17 | abrotman | nvz: you would tell a keyboard something ? |
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| 14:33.30 | nvz | abrotman: *shrug* you lost me on that one :P |
| 14:33.51 | abrotman | nvz: there's a company called roland that used to make synthesizers |
| 14:34.00 | abrotman | and midi cards iirc |
| 14:34.11 | nkuttler | braindead_moron: ^<escape key> <esc>, then like in vim |
| 14:34.13 | asg | abrotman: and guitar effects processors |
| 14:34.20 | iss | Where do I have to place kernel modules to be able to load them with modprobe? |
| 14:34.24 | abrotman | nvz: http://www.rolandus.com/ |
| 14:34.27 | abrotman | asg: yes .. that too |
| 14:34.28 | stew | N0S3_1: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 14:34.36 | dorto | someone knows if creative mp3 players(zen touch, zen micro) are supported in debian? |
| 14:34.41 | asg | abrotman: I have a POD now though, quite nice for the price |
| 14:34.50 | abrotman | asg: i want a new guitar! |
| 14:35.00 | N0S3_1 | stew ok |
| 14:35.10 | nkuttler | braindead_moron: iirc the default escape key is a (?) |
| 14:35.29 | nvz | abrotman: yeah well these arent those rolands. He works at the liquor store, his son works dahn tahn at the bread bakery, his wife cooks at the middle school, and his daughter just quit as a Pharmacy Associate at Eckerd.. not sure where she works now. They are all pretty annoying |
| 14:37.40 | nvz | I also don't know why people are always correcting me when I say Liquor in here either.. thats what we fuckin call it in da burgh this isnt Germany ffs\ |
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| 14:37.56 | Dasnipa` | moin all |
| 14:38.29 | mxn | Hello. My iPod doesn't work under Debian with a 2.6.13.4 kernel. Anyone feel like tackling this mother? |
| 14:38.31 | braindead_moron | nkuttler, Thanks |
| 14:38.31 | deepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.46 | mxn | Ooh, another iPod problem. |
| 14:38.47 | nkuttler | deepan: did you google the error? |
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| 14:38.57 | asg | stew: hah |
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| 14:39.13 | ogzy | hi, i had created a binary deb package, but i am not sure whether it works as it should be, because i am not about th depends part, can someone try it? |
| 14:39.24 | dorto | !tell deepan about repeat |
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| 14:40.27 | HellKat | Ive been trying to upgrade my fglrx drivers, but I keep getting this error: fglrx-driver depends on xserver-xfree86 (<< 4.3.99); However: Version of xserver-xfree86 on system is 6.8.2.dfsg.1-9. |
| 14:40.31 | nvz | by time I walk to quaker village the liquor store will be open anyhow.. |
| 14:40.35 | dorto | runs towards what? is there a gnu/linux friendly mp3 player? |
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| 14:40.50 | asg | dorto: neurosaudio.com |
| 14:40.52 | stew | HellKat: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-9. is the version of xorg not xfree86 |
| 14:40.54 | nvz | I shouldnt be getting saused today, but oh well, fuck it |
| 14:41.06 | stew | !nvzdrink nvz |
| 14:41.07 | asg | dorto: even does oggs, has open firmware and schematics, and is not too expensive |
| 14:41.09 | HellKat | stew: How do I upgrade my Fglrx drivers though? lol |
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| 14:41.22 | dorto | asg: "Directory Listing Denied" :& |
| 14:41.23 | character | hello all |
| 14:41.29 | nvz | I actually was taking a drink of it when you said that, dpkg |
| 14:41.36 | Doud | okay then, thanks for trying ! |
| 14:41.43 | Doud | good day to you guys |
| 14:41.47 | asg | dorto: stick a 'www.' on the url |
| 14:41.50 | dorto | neurosaudio.com not working only for me o.0 |
| 14:41.52 | stew | HellKat: dunno |
| 14:41.54 | dorto | ooh |
| 14:41.56 | HellKat | lol |
| 14:42.07 | dorto | right :) |
| 14:42.10 | dorto | !lol |
| 14:42.11 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 14:42.11 | stew | HellKat: which ati card? |
| 14:42.12 | asg | dorto: www.neurosaudio.com (they should fix that but *shrug*) |
| 14:42.19 | dorto | yeah... |
| 14:42.21 | HellKat | stew: Ati Radeon 9000 pro |
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| 14:42.41 | stew | HellKat: just use the free drivers, they have accelleration for all the cards <= 9250 |
| 14:42.53 | HellKat | stew: what should I apt-get ? |
| 14:42.58 | HellKat | stew: Im a gamer though. |
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| 14:43.17 | stew | HellKat: there is nothing to apt-get just select radeon as the driver |
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| 14:43.33 | HellKat | stew: Where do I do this? |
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| 14:43.50 | stew | HellKat: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 14:44.10 | HellKat | much appreciated |
| 14:44.30 | Dasnipa` | is the radeon driver like the 'nv' driver though? |
| 14:44.31 | HellKat | how can I tell my video card's bus identifier? |
| 14:44.36 | Dasnipa` | only enables 2d modes |
| 14:44.38 | adii | how should i do to add a dns server ? |
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| 14:44.41 | adii | with "route" i think ? |
| 14:44.51 | stew | HellKat: where did that fglrx pacakge come from that depended on xfree? |
| 14:45.00 | valdyn | adii: if you dont have resolvconf installed, edit /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:45.03 | stew | HellKat: leave the busid blank unless you have 2 cards or are on a mac |
| 14:45.06 | HellKat | apt-get install |
| 14:45.07 | HellKat | ok |
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| 14:45.40 | stew | HellKat: where did you apt-get install it from? there are no fglrx packages in debian |
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| 14:46.20 | jowi | Where are the ops!? |
| 14:46.21 | jharrisonwk | I remember when this channel was thriving |
| 14:46.27 | HellKat | not sure, I had someone else do my configurations |
| 14:46.28 | jharrisonwk | such a shame |
| 14:46.38 | jowi | whoops |
| 14:46.39 | stew | HellKat: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 14:47.03 | jowi | wrong channel, sorry all |
| 14:47.04 | HellKat | stew: Sid |
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| 14:47.16 | guru | does make mrproper remove the .config file? |
| 14:47.23 | jharrisonwk | guru: it sure does |
| 14:47.30 | guru | well, feck |
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| 14:47.53 | HellKat | stew: Reconfiguring did nothing to help my GlxGears Framerate |
| 14:47.57 | guru | ok, i just copied it to dot.config-dont-touch-this-or-ill-kill-you :) |
| 14:47.57 | jharrisonwk | guru: should have backed up your .config before you started playing with kernel sources |
| 14:48.01 | oguz_ | i had a connection problem |
| 14:48.02 | HellKat | stew: Do I need to restart? |
| 14:48.05 | guru | jharrisonwk: i did |
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| 14:48.07 | jharrisonwk | guru: sounds like a plan |
| 14:48.15 | takatumi | guru: use kernel-package instead |
| 14:48.16 | stew | HellKat: yes |
| 14:48.16 | oguz_ | did someone answer my question related with debian binary package |
| 14:48.22 | stew | HellKat: you need to restart x not reboot |
| 14:48.23 | guru | i always make a backup...i'm -pedantic |
| 14:48.29 | jharrisonwk | oguz_: dont know what your question was |
| 14:48.30 | HellKat | stew: Thanks so much for the help, |
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| 14:49.12 | guru | takatumi: i did, along with fakeroot |
| 14:49.21 | pjz | how do I create a Contents-i386.gz for my local debian mirror? |
| 14:49.23 | stew | what kind of friend sets up sid for someone that doesn't know what they are doing? |
| 14:49.23 | oguz_ | jharrisonwk, i created a deb package of a program by looking at Debian Binary Package HOWTO, i am not sure whether it is ok or not, i am not sure from the control file |
| 14:49.33 | stew | oguz_: #debian-mentors |
| 14:49.34 | iss | There's a kernel-module ath_pci.ko placed in /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/net/wlan/ |
| 14:49.35 | pureone | hehe |
| 14:49.41 | guru | takatumi: i'm following the instructions from http://www.projektfarm.com/en/support/howto/debian_kernel_compile.html |
| 14:49.47 | oguz_ | stew, ok i am going there thanx |
| 14:49.54 | iss | But when I do modprobe ath_pci, it says it can't find the module. |
| 14:49.56 | iss | why is that? |
| 14:50.07 | stew | iss: have you run depmod -a ? |
| 14:50.08 | iss | (i placed the module there manually) |
| 14:50.10 | oguz_ | stew, but it is not an official package, should i still go debian-mentors? |
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| 14:50.20 | stew | oguz_: is it dfsg free? |
| 14:50.37 | oguz_ | stew, yes it is licensed with gpl |
| 14:50.41 | stew | oguz_: then sure |
| 14:50.47 | guru | jharrisonwk: want to hear something really weird? for the longest time i haven't had acpi support on my laptop, but today i went into the bios and enabled password protection for my hard drive (and that is the ONLY thing i changed) and now it works |
| 14:50.50 | oguz_ | stew, ok thanx i am going there thanx |
| 14:50.52 | iss | now i get several invalid module format errors... |
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| 14:50.57 | stew | oguz_: out of curiosity, what is it? |
| 14:51.13 | takatumi | guru: I don't see make mrproper there. |
| 14:51.33 | guru | takatumi: i'm not using make mrproper...i saw that on another site and was wondering what it did |
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| 14:51.41 | oguz_ | stew, it is a turkish-engilish qt offline dictionary, someone had done it, i decided to make its deb package to learn how to make a deb package |
| 14:51.46 | xtof | hi, newbie question : how can I find the format of the /etc/news/server file? (dpkg -S server | grep news gives nothing) |
| 14:52.00 | guru | takatumi: a friend of mine, on the other hand, did and lost his .config which he'd spent almost 3 hours tweaking |
| 14:52.18 | iss | What is this about? |
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| 14:52.20 | stew | oguz_: cool. if its something that might be useful to be included in main, file an itp |
| 14:52.24 | jharrisonwk | oguz_: does your package pass lintian tests? |
| 14:52.36 | jharrisonwk | guru: that is weird |
| 14:52.46 | guru | jharrisonwk: yeah i know...very weird |
| 14:53.05 | guru | jharrisonwk: i then rebooted and disabled it and it still works...maybe it was a bios bug or something |
| 14:53.26 | pjz | how do I create a Contents-i386.gz for my local debian repository? |
| 14:53.43 | oguz_ | jharrisonwk, mostly yes, one errror that asks man page |
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| 14:54.08 | petemc | pjz: dpkg-scanpackages |
| 14:54.29 | stew | ogzyr: you should try linda as well as lintian |
| 14:54.53 | jharrisonwk | ogzyr: error or warning? |
| 14:55.04 | guru | does anyone here use a wireless network card on their laotop? |
| 14:55.07 | jharrisonwk | ogzyr: usually there is warning about man pages |
| 14:55.21 | guru | laptop, even |
| 14:55.33 | chealer | guru, no, nobody has that |
| 14:55.52 | guru | chealer: i'm only asking because i wrote a profile manager for wireless connections |
| 14:55.54 | pjz | petemc: that makes Packages.gz not Contents-*.gz |
| 14:56.13 | ogzyr | jharrisonwk, unstripped-binary-or-object ./usr/bin/qtsozluk thats the only error |
| 14:56.27 | petemc | pjz: oh right - sorry |
| 14:56.42 | petemc | pjz: some other tool in dpkg-dev then, prolly |
| 14:56.51 | jharrisonwk | ogzyr: probably need to fix errors |
| 14:57.06 | adii | what's the package to have network options under gnome ? |
| 14:57.27 | ogzyr | jharrisonwk, maybe, but i dont know what the errror means, i put the binary file where it should be |
| 14:57.53 | pjz | petemc: I don't see anything obvious |
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| 14:58.39 | pjz | petemc: is it as simple as find mirror -name \*.deb -exec dpkg --contents {} \; >Contents ? |
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| 14:59.19 | FrdFlint | i am running debian sarge and wanting to setup some fat 32 programs ,what program can i use yo emulate windowz |
| 14:59.27 | petemc | pjz: suck it and see, ive no idea myself |
| 14:59.31 | syntaxx | FrdFlint, wine |
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| 14:59.36 | amphi | FrdFlint: qemu |
| 14:59.47 | amphi | FrdFlint: run windows under it |
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| 15:00.06 | stew | fat32 programs? dosfstools |
| 15:00.07 | FrdFlint | i tried with wine and cedega but the games wont work right |
| 15:00.18 | FrdFlint | yep the sims for my daughter |
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| 15:00.24 | jharrisonwk | ah nice windy hurricane |
| 15:00.38 | jharrisonwk | makes everything nice and cool |
| 15:00.44 | meff | if cedega doesnt work.. well.. |
| 15:00.46 | FrdFlint | i was hoping to setup xp under debian |
| 15:00.53 | cal | anyone got any ideas why the boot manager installation always fails for debian sarge? |
| 15:01.17 | meff | not w/out an emulator FrdFlint, and with qemu/vmware you cant route 3d thru them to your hardware acceleration |
| 15:01.54 | FrdFlint | ok i forgot about that 3d problem with vmware |
| 15:01.57 | amphi | FrdFlint: I believe you can run ms windows xp under qemu, but you need a more recent version than the one in sarge, I believe; the denizens of #qemu would know |
| 15:02.19 | FrdFlint | ok gonna try them ,thanks for the hekp |
| 15:02.34 | amphi | FrdFlint: oh, 3d accel? forget qemu then |
| 15:02.42 | N0S3_1 | stew |
| 15:02.52 | FrdFlint | its only the Sims not sure if i need 3d or not |
| 15:03.11 | stew | N0S3_1: |
| 15:03.21 | amphi | FrdFlint: try qemu - win2k runs under it apparently, if not winxp |
| 15:03.27 | FrdFlint | i'd buy here the linux version if i could find it |
| 15:03.41 | rking | when i run "vncserver :1 -fp unix/:7100", the vnc log says, "could not open default font 'fixed'", i can see in the strace that it's done a connect(/tmp/.font-unix/fs7100), and /var/log/xfs.log is empty. any clues? (i know it's early for this kind of unexciting glitch. TIA) |
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| 15:03.45 | amphi | FrdFlint: qemu is damn fast with the kernel module |
| 15:03.57 | stew | FrdFlint: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005S0HY/thesims-20/002-7208837-6948836 |
| 15:04.03 | syntaxx | qemu is like vmware? |
| 15:04.05 | FrdFlint | is qemu new? |
| 15:04.18 | amphi | FrdFlint: qemu.org |
| 15:04.32 | amphi | syntaxx: dunno about vmware |
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| 15:04.51 | FrdFlint | ok gonna give them a try and the sims at amazon too. |
| 15:05.07 | FrdFlint | thanks for all the help |
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| 15:05.23 | syntaxx | amphi, ic |
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| 15:06.37 | stew | oh its sold out |
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| 15:08.36 | coywolf | any1 helps? i got this: can't load font *-courier-medium-r-*-18-* |
| 15:08.49 | coywolf | !search courier-medium |
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| 15:09.07 | andisoftman | i got dependancy hell on a knoppix 3.9 hard drive install, and apt-get wants to remove 500mb of software as libarts1-dev has unmet dependsncies, anybody got any ideas? |
| 15:09.15 | stew | andisoftman: #knoppix |
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| 15:09.25 | andisoftman | stew: tried |
| 15:09.29 | asg | !they don't know |
| 15:09.29 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 15:09.56 | stew | andisoftman: try a mailing list then |
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| 15:10.13 | andisoftman | k, but isnt knoppix debian-based...... |
| 15:10.21 | Ronin | based doesnt mean is debian |
| 15:10.29 | cal | andisoftman: I hope you kept you /home in a different partition... |
| 15:10.37 | andisoftman | cal: yea i did |
| 15:10.43 | cal | *kept your |
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| 15:11.19 | cal | andisoftman: reinstall is probably the easiest way, honestly. I have dep hell on debian atm, but there's no obvious fix and im trying to reinstall |
| 15:11.23 | coywolf | any1 helps? i got this: can't load font *-courier-medium-r-*-18-* |
| 15:11.37 | iss | Invalid module format... what does that mean? |
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| 15:11.51 | PerfDave | iss: I'm guessing that it means that the module format is invalid. |
| 15:11.52 | iss | the module is self compiled. |
| 15:11.53 | andisoftman | cal: k i might end up having to, after backing up my information |
| 15:11.56 | stew | iss: it means you compiled your modules with gcc 3.3 and your kernel was compiled with gcc 4.0 |
| 15:12.27 | iss | 2.6.12-1-686 ist compiled with gcc-4.0? |
| 15:12.32 | stew | iss: yes |
| 15:12.32 | iss | s/ist/is/ |
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| 15:12.36 | iss | ok |
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| 15:12.41 | stew | cal: what is the problem you are having? |
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| 15:14.05 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 15:14.34 | iss | I can I tell make to use gcc-4.0 instead of gcc-3.3.5? make CC=gcc-4.0 ? |
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| 15:15.00 | stew | iss: yes CC and/or HOSTCC |
| 15:15.07 | iss | ok, thx |
| 15:15.11 | stew | iss: (assuming you ahve gcc-4.0 installed) |
| 15:15.19 | iss | it is installed. :) |
| 15:15.22 | petemc | ive found sometimes you need to change the symlink too |
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| 15:15.26 | amorphix | in my router config under Firewall-Port Forwarding I'm being asked if I want to enable packet forwarding for TCP/UDP or both, which should I do for normal services like Web,FTP,POP3 etc, just TCP? |
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| 15:16.27 | iss | wow, it works! :) |
| 15:16.31 | iss | thx a lot. :) |
| 15:16.33 | Subvertir | Can anyone help me share an LPR printer using samba? I've already got filesharing configured |
| 15:16.36 | Subvertir | and I dunno where to start with this |
| 15:16.46 | cal | stew: i want to install libguile9, for example, and apt complains there are no candidates |
| 15:17.04 | asg | Subvertir: tons of documentation at samba.org and www.oreilly.com/openbook (Using Samba 2nd edition) |
| 15:17.04 | stew | cal: what version of debian? |
| 15:17.05 | some1too | I have installed debian sarge newly and selected no preselected packages of programs to install. I now want to install X and KDE (is the öong waited 3.x there yet?) |
| 15:17.10 | stew | !info libguile9 sarge |
| 15:17.11 | amorphix | hi |
| 15:17.15 | amorphix | in my router config under Firewall-Port Forwarding I'm being asked if I want to enable packet forwarding for TCP/UDP or both, which should I do for normal services like Web,FTP,POP3 etc, just TCP? |
| 15:17.29 | chealer | some1too, since at least a year, yes |
| 15:17.32 | Subvertir | asg, thanks! |
| 15:17.36 | Estes2 | Hi everyone !! Anyone knows why in the kernel source shipped with debian, Symmetric multiprocessing is not under Processor type and features ? Other question is... anyone where it is ? |
| 15:17.44 | Turms | can anyone tell me where i can read why amule is not in etch? |
| 15:17.52 | asg | Estes2: install an -smp kernel package |
| 15:17.55 | stew | cal: your sources.list must be messed up or incomplete, the same version of libguile9 is available in stable/testing/unstable |
| 15:18.08 | Estes2 | asg, i want to compile from source |
| 15:18.16 | pjz | how do I create a Contents-i386.gz for my local debian mirror? |
| 15:18.21 | abrotman | !repository |
| 15:18.22 | dpkg | it has been said that debian repository is a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
| 15:18.24 | dpkg | libguile9: (libraries for Guile1.4 (guile, guilereadline, and qthreads)), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:1.4-26 (sarge), Packaged size: 600 kB, Installed size: 1564 kB |
| 15:18.25 | asg | Estes2: then get the sources and use make menuconfig |
| 15:18.26 | some1too | whats the X cmd for dpkg ? |
| 15:18.35 | asg | some1too: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 15:18.39 | Estes2 | asg, it is what i am doing |
| 15:18.42 | asg | some1too: or /msg dpkg install kde |
| 15:18.56 | Estes2 | asg, i just can't find the smp option where it's supposed to be |
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| 15:19.06 | cal | stew: im pretty sure its not that. it look pretty much like it should do |
| 15:19.10 | Subvertir | asg, I feel dumb now, this is pretty easy =P |
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| 15:19.12 | asg | Estes2: did you enable experimental options? |
| 15:19.17 | stew | cal: http://packages.debian.org/libguile9 |
| 15:19.18 | Estes2 | humm |
| 15:19.19 | Estes2 | no |
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| 15:19.21 | Estes2 | where it is ? |
| 15:19.22 | pjz | abrotman: that doesn't descrie how to make Contetns-i386.gz |
| 15:19.34 | asg | Estes2: the first one in the list usually, don't remember offhand though. |
| 15:19.34 | amorphix | hi |
| 15:19.36 | amorphix | in my router config under Firewall-Port Forwarding I'm being asked if I want to enable packet forwarding for TCP/UDP or both, which should I do for normal services like Web,FTP,POP3 etc, just TCP? |
| 15:19.37 | chealer | !tell Turms about why is amule not in testing |
| 15:19.40 | abrotman | pjz: at all? |
| 15:19.42 | stew | cal: paste your sources.list into flood or a pastebin (don't paste here) |
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| 15:19.47 | pjz | abrotman: not even mentioned in the page |
| 15:19.50 | jan_ | Hi, i removed my /boot directory by accident, whats the best way to reinstall it? missing base files, grub reinstall .. ? |
| 15:19.52 | stew | abrotman: it doesn't |
| 15:20.02 | amorphix | hi, what is the difference between TCP and UDP? |
| 15:20.07 | abrotman | damn stupid DDs who write incomplete docs! |
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| 15:20.23 | Subvertir | amorphix, UDP doesn't guarantee that packets will arrive, or arrive in sequence. TCP does. |
| 15:20.24 | cal | argh, need to reconnent-gtk playing up |
| 15:20.24 | stew | pjz: take a look at apt-ftparchive |
| 15:20.25 | pjz | amorphix: TCP is connection based, UDP is just throwing packets around |
| 15:20.29 | amorphix | oh |
| 15:20.45 | amorphix | I should not enable UDP on my firewall then? |
| 15:20.50 | Turms | chealer thanks, i had queried the wrong bot |
| 15:20.56 | amorphix | since connections from other servers will always use TCP eh |
| 15:20.59 | stew | amorphix: for what service? |
| 15:21.06 | Estes2 | asg, i never heard i had to enable experimental to compile smp |
| 15:21.06 | pjz | amorphix: some protocols use UDP, like DNS for isntance |
| 15:21.10 | amorphix | httpd,ftpd,pop3,smtpd |
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| 15:21.18 | stew | amorphix: those are all tcp based |
| 15:21.18 | amorphix | thats all i run |
| 15:21.21 | asg | Estes2: just a suggestion |
| 15:21.24 | amorphix | ok thanks stew |
| 15:21.25 | cal | stew: where do i paste? |
| 15:21.34 | stew | cal: #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 15:21.35 | some1too | what's the parameter to ask dpkg about installing X ? |
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| 15:21.44 | asg | some1too: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 15:21.58 | jan_ | Hi, i removed my /boot directory by accident, whats the best way to reinstall it? missing base files, grub reinstall .. ? apt-get what ; dpkg what? |
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| 15:22.40 | abarbaccia | hey all - i have a new case + MB - the fan thats plugged into the system fan headers seems to be pretty loud. are there any utils to drop the voltage on it? |
| 15:22.55 | coywolf | any1 helps? i got this: can't load font *-courier-medium-r-*-18-* |
| 15:23.02 | coywolf | how to solve? |
| 15:23.12 | adii | how can i do so my computer understand that it has an ip "192.168.0.2" , connected through my comp (192.168.0.1), using the dns server 212.186.224.9 ? |
| 15:23.24 | stew | coywolf: that isn't a valid font string, it should be much longer |
| 15:23.42 | coywolf | stew, i get that error |
| 15:23.50 | stew | coywolf: -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-* <- that would be valid |
| 15:23.54 | asg | coywolf: use xfontsel to generate a correct line |
| 15:23.59 | coywolf | stew, which package provides courier-medium? |
| 15:24.02 | cal | stew: its here: channels.debian.net/paste/953 |
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| 15:24.22 | Turms | chealer: thanks anyway, but i could not find any reasonable explanations |
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| 15:24.36 | chealer | Turms, hint, it should go in in the next 2 days |
| 15:24.49 | Turms | chealer: thanks :-) |
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| 15:25.26 | abrotman | amorphix: way to jump into the 90s!!! |
| 15:25.28 | amorphix | phew only took me 4.5 hours to setup but i got there |
| 15:25.42 | chealer | amorphix, did you see the new 1.40 MB floppies too? |
| 15:25.46 | amorphix | abrotman: I'm catching up ;-) |
| 15:25.47 | cahoot | coywolf: tried putting the font expression in quotes? |
| 15:26.09 | chealer | amorphix, you can install potato in a flash with those |
| 15:26.19 | amorphix | hehe |
| 15:26.24 | coywolf | cahoot, when I run elvis, i got that error! |
| 15:26.31 | coywolf | cahoot, how to fix? |
| 15:26.33 | amorphix | jest all your like, my network fliiiies now |
| 15:26.39 | abrotman | duh |
| 15:26.52 | abrotman | that's why the rest of the world went to switches at least 5 years ago |
| 15:27.02 | stew | cal: looks like that arizona.edu repo is incomplete, it may be that amd64 is incomplete however, i'd ask in #debian-amd64 |
| 15:27.09 | abrotman | closer to 10 i suppose |
| 15:27.19 | amorphix | yeah but amorphix is always behind the rest of the world in the technology stakes ;-) |
| 15:27.33 | abrotman | amorphix: now .. when will you upgrade that 9600 bps modem ? |
| 15:27.38 | amorphix | i just use what works, i dont care if its the best or the fastest, i only upgrade when i need to |
| 15:27.44 | stew | coywolf: i don't know which package provides courier, but you reall should figure out where that invalid font string is coming from |
| 15:27.45 | amorphix | bah :P |
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| 15:28.08 | coywolf | stew, it's from elvis |
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| 15:28.33 | hanz | i had a kernel panic with a new kernel. i rebooted with the old kernel but can not find any logfile to look for the panic msgs? |
| 15:28.50 | abrotman | amorphix: we know .. we told oyu about Sun Optical mice .. 2 weeks ago |
| 15:28.54 | amorphix | haha |
| 15:28.59 | amorphix | :-> |
| 15:29.00 | cal | stew: thanks |
| 15:29.11 | cal | stew: i will |
| 15:29.15 | stew | coywolf: do you have that string in .Xresources / .Xdefaults or in .elvis or .elvisrc or whatever the elvis config file is? |
| 15:29.21 | fatal__ | hanz: your kernel handles control of all devices in your computer, including disks. After your kernel has paniced, who are supposed to handle writing the log to disk? :) |
| 15:29.25 | some1too | I have plugged a optical usb mouse to an usb port at the backside of the computer. installing X it askes me to choose a mouse port. which one do I have choose? |
| 15:29.25 | amorphix | is there a driver for my Origo wireless lan bus card? |
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| 15:29.48 | LSorensen | some1too: /dev/input/mice |
| 15:30.01 | amorphix | i need a driver module |
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| 15:30.12 | coywolf | stew, i have /etc/elvis.ini: set! font="*-courier-medium-r-*-18-*" |
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| 15:30.28 | amorphix | woah, nfs actually works now for videos and mp3 on my laptop |
| 15:30.34 | pjz | stew: thanks for the help btw |
| 15:30.42 | amorphix | i can go about getting a pvr 150 and do mythtv now |
| 15:30.45 | stew | coywolf: try changing that to -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-* and if that works, file a bug against elvis |
| 15:31.14 | asg | coywolf: out of curiosity, what debian version and what window manager are you using? |
| 15:31.18 | coywolf | stew, but elvis works on my another sid box |
| 15:31.33 | coywolf | asg, sid |
| 15:31.38 | asg | coywolf: and the WM? |
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| 15:31.50 | stew | coywolf: then "dpkg --get-selections | grep font" on both boxes and compare |
| 15:31.59 | amorphix | whooooo knows if theres a driver for Origo |
| 15:32.12 | asg | amorphix: google Origo linux |
| 15:32.14 | coywolf | asg, xfce |
| 15:32.34 | charzero | Is there a script to use make-jpkg for sun jdk1.5.0 ? |
| 15:32.35 | nvz | I bought these cheap little $5 earbuds and they dont produce much sound :P I really need an mp3 player with wireless headphones. this is getting annoying. I solder new wire on my headphones about every day because they phono plug keeps getting broken |
| 15:32.38 | asg | coywolf: oh, okay. I know that sid's fluxbox has done something with the font options so that certain fonts (i.e. artwiz) don't work anymore. |
| 15:32.39 | hanz | fatal__: kernel 2.6 introduced telepathy_modul 1.0, doesnt it? :> |
| 15:32.46 | stew | charzero: read /usr/share/doc/java-package/SUPPORTED |
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| 15:32.51 | asg | coywolf: nevermind, though, since you aren't using it. |
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| 15:33.13 | coywolf | stew, is "dpkg --get-selections" == "dpkg -L" ? |
| 15:33.17 | amorphix | i hope my card is supported |
| 15:33.32 | jan_ | How do i check if all files are still in place : no default files may be missing |
| 15:33.35 | stew | coywolf: no, its similar to dpkg -l |
| 15:33.36 | charzero | stew: Oh. I guess i just have my bin named wrong. |
| 15:33.52 | coywolf | stew, i mean -l |
| 15:34.08 | stew | coywolf: its similar |
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| 15:34.15 | fatal__ | hanz: not yet... but there has been discussions about adding some crash dump utility.... see LKCD. |
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| 15:35.38 | nvz | ok they make bluetooth wireless mp3 playing cell phones, and bluetooth wireless ear piece and mic thingies for them.. so wtf dont they sell stereo bluetooth headphones and bluetooth enabled standalone digital music players?! |
| 15:35.46 | Dantix | I need to merge two mailbox files to get a big one with the content of both, how can i do that? |
| 15:35.49 | jan_ | How do i check if all files are still in place : no default files may be missing , nobody knows? :-) |
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| 15:36.28 | nvz | the size of mp3 players these days makes it quite obvious they were not meant to have coords comming out of them for any purpose, audio, data, or power |
| 15:36.29 | stew | jan_: what is a "default file"? |
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| 15:37.05 | stew | jan_: you might wanna look at the debsums package |
| 15:37.33 | jan_ | stew: i removed some files by accident, and now i would kike to check wich files are missing from wich pakage, and reinstall the files :-) |
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| 15:37.39 | zumbi | !hi |
| 15:37.39 | dpkg | hello, zumbi |
| 15:37.43 | stew | jan_: yeah, debsums |
| 15:37.47 | jan_ | ok,; thanks |
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| 15:39.22 | some1too | hmm enlightenement or kde ? heh |
| 15:39.24 | skiflyer | Is there an /etc file to mess with the table setup by route, or do I have to use the route interface? |
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| 15:39.38 | SnuS | if a package is unavail in unstable and is avail in stable, can I use that one ? |
| 15:39.42 | abrotman | !interfaces |
| 15:39.42 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 15:39.42 | petemc | skiflyer: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:39.43 | abrotman | ? |
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| 15:39.54 | abrotman | SnuS: maybe .. depends |
| 15:39.58 | chealer | SnuS, on which release? |
| 15:39.59 | stew | SnuS: generally you really shouldn't, what package? |
| 15:40.00 | nkuttler | Dantix: hm, you could probably pipe them through procmail... or simply try cat mbox1 >> mbox2 and look what mutt does with it (make backups) |
| 15:40.01 | jan_ | stew: debsums: no md5sums for base-files |
| 15:40.02 | jan_ | hm :( |
| 15:40.04 | SnuS | err. it's unavail in testing. avail in stable. |
| 15:40.06 | SnuS | openswan. |
| 15:40.24 | abrotman | !info openswan sid |
| 15:40.26 | chealer | SnuS, you can try. look at the BTS |
| 15:40.29 | dpkg | openswan: (IPSEC utilities for Openswan), section net, is optional. Version: 1:2.4.0-3 (sid), Packaged size: 1633 kB, Installed size: 5420 kB |
| 15:40.32 | SnuS | BTS? |
| 15:40.33 | abrotman | seems there to me |
| 15:40.36 | skiflyer | petemc: ok cool didn't know I could specify them there... thanks |
| 15:40.38 | chealer | !tell SnuS about bts |
| 15:40.41 | abrotman | SnuS: apt-get update;apt-get install openswan ? |
| 15:40.55 | SnuS | abrotman "Package openswan is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 15:40.59 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=openswan |
| 15:41.04 | abrotman | it's in unstable .. not in testing |
| 15:41.19 | Dantix | nkuttler: thanks |
| 15:41.19 | stew | jan_: dpkg -L base-files | while read a ; do if [ ! -e $a ]; then echo $a is missing ; fi ; done |
| 15:41.24 | SnuS | I'm using testing :/ |
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| 15:41.55 | skiflyer | can someone help me with what I need to add to my /etc/network/interfaces to make my linux machine go to a linksys router for out of network resolutions? |
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| 15:42.25 | nkuttler | skiflyer: did you read man interfaces? |
| 15:42.30 | nvz | skiflyer: gateway 192.168.0.1 |
| 15:42.35 | nvz | skiflyer: or something like that I would imagine |
| 15:42.53 | PerfDave | skiflyer: For name resolutions you want /etc/resolv.conf (or use the resolvconf package) |
| 15:43.14 | skiflyer | nvz: I don't have to specify eth0 anywhere? |
| 15:43.42 | adii | how can i do so my computer understand that it has an ip "192.168.0.2" , connected through my comp (192.168.0.1), using the dns server 212.186.224.9 ? |
| 15:43.42 | nvz | skiflyer: yeah iface inet eth0 static |
| 15:43.42 | SnuS | so, what should I do ? install openswan_2.2.0-8_i386.deb (stable) ? |
| 15:43.42 | skiflyer | PerfDave: I can't ping the external network by IP either though |
| 15:43.44 | nvz | skiflyer: if its already in there as dhcp then you shouldnt have to do anything |
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| 15:44.02 | skiflyer | no, it's static, I see what you're saying, let me try to add the gateway line and see what happens |
| 15:44.14 | Bac9 | I can get a grub diskette to boot fine in qemu, but on real hardware it gives "GRUB GRUB GRUB " ad infinitum, can someone help? (yes I tried #grub, noone there answers) |
| 15:44.37 | skiflyer | nvz: Did the trick, thanks |
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| 15:45.02 | stew | adii: man resolv.conf |
| 15:45.27 | nvz | dpkg, karma nvz |
| 15:45.27 | dpkg | nvz has karma of 9 |
| 15:45.38 | nvz | I would think my karma is higher than that |
| 15:45.45 | abrotman | !karma abrotman |
| 15:45.45 | dpkg | abrotman has karma of 9 |
| 15:45.57 | SnuS | I can't install it from the stable. I get a "libgmp3 is not installed.". I have libgmp3c2 installed. If I uninstall that, clamav won't work any more. |
| 15:45.58 | abrotman | !karma stew |
| 15:45.58 | dpkg | stew has karma of 3 |
| 15:46.01 | tzafrir_home | I'm having problems booting up a new Sarge system via grub: It is installed on hdb. On hda I have another debian system. hdb is a new disk I added today. |
| 15:46.07 | nvz | I woke up sunday morning and cooked breakfast for a couple of friends.. that should count for karma points |
| 15:46.11 | abrotman | SnuS: use the openswan from unstable |
| 15:46.24 | abrotman | nvz: only if they didn't throw up afterwards |
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| 15:46.36 | nvz | abrotman: no they didnt throw up. |
| 15:46.37 | SnuS | abrotman smart :) |
| 15:46.42 | tzafrir_home | hdb's size shows in the bios as "80", whereas the size of hda shows up as ~ "22000" |
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| 15:47.16 | nvz | well steve went to watch the Stillers game at dans and get drunk afterward.. so he might have thrown up *shrug* |
| 15:47.30 | tzafrir_home | I fail to make grub boot from partitions in hdb. when grub's stage 2 was installed on hdb, it also gave me an error 21 at "stage 1.5". |
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| 15:48.01 | some1too | how can I change apt's type of source to snatch from? I'm currently using ftp but I'd like to switch to http (like I was able to select in the set up routine) |
| 15:48.28 | amphi | some1too: apt-setup |
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| 15:48.47 | some1too | thank you! |
| 15:49.11 | nvz | I was down at the village a few minutes ago buying my liqueur and they have all these gift packs on the shelf now. where you get cool glasses to go along with the empty bottle after the holidays.. heh I always wondered where people got these glasses from. |
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| 15:49.36 | tzafrir_home | any idea if it is possible to work around in grub to what appears to be a problem in the bios? |
| 15:49.53 | abrotman | nvz: i have a box set that my sister got me years ago .. nice bottle of crown royal with two etched rocks glasses |
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| 15:50.18 | asg | abrotman: remember, Crown Royal always provided the best die bags |
| 15:50.30 | abrotman | asg: yeah .. that i don't have .. but i have etched glasses! |
| 15:50.43 | nvz | abrotman: I am drinking out of a Leetsdale Pennsylvania 1904-2004 champaign glass right now :P |
| 15:50.55 | asg | abrotman: I have 3 or 4 kahlua coffee mugs |
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| 15:51.02 | abrotman | nvz: why? :) |
| 15:51.09 | amphi | nvz: 'Leetsdale'? |
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| 15:51.28 | abrotman | asg: i don't drink much hard liquor .. so i don't get many of those goodies .. but i do have a Yuengling Lager tap from a bar :) |
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| 15:51.37 | Dantix | nkuttler: works! thanks again |
| 15:51.38 | amorphix | absinthe is good |
| 15:51.39 | asg | abrotman: me neither, these came with mrs. asg |
| 15:51.46 | amorphix | but only the french stuff |
| 15:51.58 | abrotman | when the bar closed .. i asked for the tap .. and the owner signed it and gave it to me :) |
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| 15:52.53 | abrotman | it was a bar i worked at in high school .. |
| 15:53.29 | brt | grub-install gives me errors: |
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| 15:53.44 | brt | Error 21: Selected disk does not exist when running with hd1 or hd1,1 |
| 15:53.46 | brt | and |
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| 15:54.13 | brt | /dev/hdg does not have any corresponding BIOS drive when running with /dev/hdg |
| 15:54.15 | nvz | abrotman: because its the only small glass I have thats not like a coffee mug |
| 15:54.26 | adii | what package contains "network administration tool" ? |
| 15:54.41 | brt | any ideas how i can install grub into the mbr? |
| 15:54.43 | nvz | abrotman: yes, 'Leetsdale' |
| 15:54.47 | nvz | amphi: ^^ |
| 15:54.48 | asg | adii: etherconf |
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| 15:55.03 | nvz | sometimes irssi completion annoys the shit out of me. |
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| 15:55.53 | nvz | I forget sometimes that it completes ambiguous nicks in a different order depending on who I've spoken to recently |
| 15:56.36 | tuxx | Evening fellows. My recent upgrade in Etch makes imap-courier behave strange. I cannot connect remotely anymore with my mailclient as it's giving me an error about not being able to "load shared library" ? |
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| 15:57.15 | nvz | I need to goto sleep shortly. I have to work at 11pm and I've been up all morning :P |
| 15:57.27 | stew | nvz: yeah, did that switch recently? it has been annoying me recently as well |
| 15:57.30 | some1too | how can I install an interface that will not show the plain black console and will have an graphical login, and when logged in correctly X continues to load the users' window manager? |
| 15:57.45 | nvz | stew: afaik its always been the default behavior |
| 15:57.53 | PerfDave | some1too: apt-get install kdm |
| 15:57.55 | asg | some1too: install gdm or kdm or wdm or xdm |
| 15:57.57 | some1too | (maybe something nice and customizeable) |
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| 15:58.25 | nvz | stew: its nice that stew completes before some1too since I was talking to you recently and not some1too |
| 15:58.38 | some1too | asg what's the difference between all of them? |
| 15:58.43 | mdg_wk | apt is telling me I need to activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option, before I can install rsync, but gives ominous warnings. Anyone ever had to use that option? |
| 15:58.50 | nvz | stew: but when I want to complete some1too and I type s[tab] expecting it to happen, and I get stew instead its a bit annoying |
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| 15:58.56 | asg | some1too: gdm is gtk based, kdm is qt based, and so on. |
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| 15:59.01 | asg | some1too: if you use kde, get kdm |
| 15:59.03 | stew | nvz: yeah, we need better mindreading |
| 15:59.13 | biblio | clara |
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| 15:59.17 | some1too | asg, I use enlightenment ... |
| 15:59.24 | stew | mdg_wk: /msg dpkg e2fsproogs loop |
| 15:59.29 | stew | no |
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| 15:59.33 | stew | mdg_wk: /msg dpkg e2fsprogs loop |
| 15:59.40 | asg | some1too: then use whichever works |
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| 16:00.11 | nvz | stew: its just that we rely too heavily on tab-completion. its like when I was laughing at my brother this morning becasuse he was walking away from the tv to find the remote to turn up the volume, when it was closer to just walk to the tv and use the buttons on the front |
| 16:00.13 | petemc | !loopbreak |
| 16:00.13 | dpkg | 'apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade'. Fix suggested by xk. Then you can remove or purge outdated packages after the upgrade. |
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| 16:00.28 | dorto | what app to use in debian to convert a .png file to .jpg |
| 16:00.38 | petemc | dorto: convert, from imagemagick |
| 16:00.39 | asg | dorto: convert in the imagemagick package |
| 16:00.41 | dorto | (shame on apps which don't accept files in .png format) |
| 16:00.44 | dorto | ok |
| 16:00.51 | PerfDave | dorto: Which app doesn't accept pngs? |
| 16:00.52 | stew | !loopbreak is also if you are getting this message about e2fsproogs, ask me about <e2fsprogs loop> |
| 16:00.52 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 16:00.53 | abrotman | dorto: i thought you were using ubuntu ? |
| 16:01.01 | ts0 | hi, what its the best way to remove a script (/etc/init.d/atd) from the default boot init? |
| 16:01.05 | nvz | shit put way too much alcohol in this one |
| 16:01.13 | petemc | ts0: update-rc.d -f package remove , works |
| 16:01.20 | asg | nvz: you'll go to sleep faster |
| 16:01.24 | nvz | heh |
| 16:01.29 | ts0 | petemc: hoo, i dont know update-rc.d |
| 16:01.30 | dorto | abrotman: nope; i am BIG debian fan |
| 16:01.33 | ts0 | tks very much |
| 16:01.38 | nvz | Jagermeister tastes like shit though |
| 16:01.41 | mdg_wk | stew, i'm not sure what you're saying. |
| 16:01.42 | dorto | i wanted to checkout gentoo and ubuntu |
| 16:01.42 | petemc | ts0: there are other ways too |
| 16:01.50 | ts0 | petemc: which ways? |
| 16:01.55 | dorto | debian is the permanent OS on all my systems |
| 16:02.03 | stew | !tell mdg_wk about e2fsprogs loop |
| 16:02.07 | dorto | plus i keep checking with other OSes |
| 16:02.13 | petemc | ts0: hmm, cant remember, sysvrcconf, or something |
| 16:02.15 | stew | mdg_wk: the dpkg bot should have just msged you |
| 16:02.25 | mdg_wk | stew...it did! Thanks. |
| 16:02.26 | dorto | PerfDave: its a web app: Yahoo! Blogger |
| 16:02.28 | stew | mdg_wk: basically you are trying to upgrade from pre-stable to testing which isn't supported |
| 16:02.39 | nvz | I dont like either the Jager or the RedBull alone but when my cousin had me drinking them in the bar I fell in love. it tastes good combined, gets you drunk fast and leaves no hangover because it keeps you hydrated and doped up on caffine |
| 16:02.47 | dorto | so size may be concern? |
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| 16:03.04 | adii | i can't have my computer working in network : it is a laptop, with a realtek ethernet card (detected in lspci) , dmesg returns eth0 working with Realtek |
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| 16:03.51 | mdg_wk | I'm so scared of doing an apt get upgrade or dist-upgrade. I've only done it once before, and I couldn't seem to login after that. |
| 16:03.56 | nkuttler | nvz: hm, caffeine dehydrates |
| 16:04.00 | dorto | how to run imagemagick? apt-get says its already installed; its not there in Graphics menu, imagemagick cmd doesn't run |
| 16:04.09 | abrotman | dorto: i'm not buying it |
| 16:04.11 | takatumi | petemc: /msg dpkg services (lists them all) |
| 16:04.14 | nkuttler | dorto: man imagemagick |
| 16:04.27 | stew | mdg_wk: you should run stable not testing then |
| 16:04.28 | petemc | takatumi: ta |
| 16:04.32 | abrotman | <dorto> none at #ubuntu can tell me how to install ubuntu on 10+ systems if i don't want to use internet for every machine :( |
| 16:04.35 | nkuttler | dorto: hm... man convert |
| 16:04.37 | mdg_wk | dorto, imagemagick comes with commands like convert etc. No binaries called imagemagick or anything. |
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| 16:04.46 | mdg_wk | stew...yes...good point. |
| 16:04.49 | PerfDave | dorto: Complain that their web app is broken :) |
| 16:04.52 | SimonRaven | dorto: dpkg -L imagemagick| less . it's a bunch of small commands that do image stuff |
| 16:04.52 | marcot | Hello, how do I import the .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives to apt-proxy? |
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| 16:04.56 | cahoot | dorto: it's a collection of utilites like convert, mogfrify etc |
| 16:05.13 | dorto | oh :P |
| 16:05.14 | nvz | nkuttler: yeah well it has water in there which takes away from the alcohol content, the caffine just equalizes the effects of the alcohol keeping you awake and partying all night |
| 16:05.19 | dorto | will check out the docs |
| 16:05.32 | nvz | nkuttler: I wouldnt drink this exclusivly.. when I would drink them in the bar I would have them between drinks |
| 16:05.32 | nkuttler | marcot: check /usr/share/doc/apt-proxy or the man page |
| 16:05.38 | dorto | abrotman: what won't you buy? |
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| 16:06.02 | mdg_wk | Stew, I'll replace testing with stable, and see where that takes me. |
| 16:06.03 | stew | warning: those with a heart condition should not necessarily follow nvz's recommendations |
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| 16:06.05 | dorto | abrotman: i don't know what you are quoting me there for |
| 16:06.15 | adii | i can't have my computer working in network : it is a laptop, with a realtek ethernet card (detected in lspci) , dmesg returns eth0 working with Realtek : it is configured with the good ip, good netmask, good dns server ... still can't ping anyone |
| 16:06.21 | ratonn | Is there a way to setup SMTP auth in exim4? |
| 16:06.22 | asg | stew: we taught him everything he knows ;) |
| 16:06.31 | nkuttler | nvz: i try to take lots of water, and magnesium and zinc when/after i drink |
| 16:06.33 | cahoot | stew: who would? |
| 16:06.49 | asg | ratonn: there are plenty of examples in the documentation (exim4-doc-html) |
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| 16:06.51 | stew | cahoot: probably people running sid |
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| 16:07.04 | SimonRaven | ratonn: yes. you read the stuff on the web |
| 16:07.14 | cahoot | stew: sensation seekers then |
| 16:07.51 | SimonRaven | 5 years? heh. me it's been 3 next march |
| 16:08.02 | marcot | nkuttler: I've tried to do as it's saying but I'm getting: |
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| 16:08.12 | sudonim | Could someone recommend a howto on backing up my entire deb system using rsync to a windows share? I would like to be able to preserve file attributes. |
| 16:08.17 | SimonRaven | no, wait |
| 16:08.40 | stew | sudonim: tar it up if you want to ensure you save permissions / ownership |
| 16:08.42 | SimonRaven | 4, not 3 |
| 16:08.44 | dorto | is there a GUI frontend for imagemagick tools? hahaha |
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| 16:08.53 | asg | dorto: xterm |
| 16:08.54 | nkuttler | dorto: xterm |
| 16:08.56 | SimonRaven | i think |
| 16:08.56 | marcot | 2005/10/24 12:08 BRST [-] [import] debian-reference-common_1.08-3_all.deb skipped - no suitable backend found |
| 16:08.57 | dorto | k |
| 16:09.00 | sudonim | stew: Can this be done on the fly with Rsync? |
| 16:09.07 | marcot | nkuttler: I'm getting this error message for all .deb files. |
| 16:09.14 | stew | sudonim: no |
| 16:09.17 | PerfDave | ratonn: Debian tells you how to set up SMTP auth in exim4 when you configure exim4. |
| 16:09.31 | cahoot | dorto: run display |
| 16:09.42 | sudonim | ok, so just have that as the first step in my cron job. |
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| 16:10.20 | nkuttler | marcot: hm, you didn't paste any error... |
| 16:10.26 | marcot | 2005/10/24 12:08 BRST [-] [import] debian-reference-common_1.08-3_all.deb skipped - no suitable backend found |
| 16:10.28 | mdg_wk | stew...thanks! Working now. |
| 16:10.29 | marcot | nkuttler: this one. |
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| 16:10.31 | SimonRaven | sudonim: tar everything up, store the compressed tar balls on the destination. otherwise you cannot perserve anything if it's not tarred up |
| 16:10.34 | SimonRaven | marcot: stop it |
| 16:10.46 | nkuttler | marcot: what command did you use? |
| 16:10.48 | marcot | SimonRaven: you mean pasting? |
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| 16:11.01 | SimonRaven | we saw it already... |
| 16:11.09 | marcot | nkuttler: apt-proxy-import -i /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 16:11.11 | sudonim | SimonRaven: Thanks for the start, I'll try to find more online |
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| 16:11.55 | nkuttler | marcot: is you apt-proxy configured correctly? can you connect to it and apt-get update? |
| 16:12.14 | marcot | nkuttler: sure. |
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| 16:12.39 | ratonn | <PerfDave> ratonn: Debian tells you how to set up SMTP auth in exim4 when you configure exim4. |
| 16:12.48 | ratonn | Didn't tell me anything. |
| 16:12.49 | nkuttler | marcot: no idea then |
| 16:12.59 | ratonn | Can I use the Debian specific conf for that? |
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| 16:13.37 | dorto | cahoot: display was easy to use. thx |
| 16:13.38 | megakeksd | hi i have a prob with the installation of debian |
| 16:14.18 | megakeksd | how can access to the install files on cd, when i booted from diskette |
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| 16:14.38 | PerfDave | ratonn: You should be using "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" to reconfigure exim4. |
| 16:14.38 | megakeksd | how can access to the install files on cd, when i booted from floppy |
| 16:14.52 | nkuttler | megakeksd: mount it? use apt-cdrom? |
| 16:14.55 | PerfDave | megakeksd: Have you read the Installation Manual? |
| 16:14.59 | ratonn | PerfDave: I did. Didn't ask me about SMTP AUTH |
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| 16:15.09 | megakeksd | yea i did |
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| 16:15.18 | dkowis | hello :) I cannot seem to get apache2 to start at boot, I've got it installed, and the initscript symlinks are there, and it runs when I start it by hand, any ideas? |
| 16:15.29 | PerfDave | ratonn: Which version of Debian are you running? |
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| 16:15.39 | ratonn | PerfDave: sarge |
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| 16:15.52 | PerfDave | ratonn: Then I suggest you try again and read more carefully. |
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| 16:16.20 | dkowis | I'm not getting the "change the 1 to a 0 " mistake |
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| 16:16.25 | dkowis | this is something stranger |
| 16:16.32 | dkowis | could be that I'm not used to sysvinit |
| 16:16.51 | dkowis | but I thought all that was needed was an S##apache symlinked to the /etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 16:16.52 | asg | dkowis: check /var/log/apache/error.log |
| 16:17.07 | dkowis | asg: there's nothing in it, as it's not even started... |
| 16:17.12 | ratonn | PerfDave: just did. Nothing about SMTP auth. |
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| 16:17.30 | asg | dkowis: nontheless, it should write an error if it fails to start. If nothing is in it, then nothing is calling it. |
| 16:17.33 | PerfDave | ratonn: Funny, there is on my sarge system :) |
| 16:17.34 | dkowis | asg: I can watch the init system post what it's starting, and I'm not even seeing the line "starting apache2" |
| 16:17.50 | asg | dkowis: in which /etc/rcX.d directories does a symlink to /etc/init.d/apache2 exist? |
| 16:17.50 | dkowis | asg: is there anything specific to debian to guarantee that it's enabled in the init system? |
| 16:17.56 | dkowis | asg: rc3.d |
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| 16:18.07 | PerfDave | ratonn: What version of exim4-config do you have? "dpkg -l exim4-config" will tell you. |
| 16:18.08 | asg | dkowis: debian uses runlevel 2 |
| 16:18.15 | asg | dkowis: unless you tweaked your /etc/inittab |
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| 16:18.30 | dkowis | asg: so it needs to be moved to rc2 or it won't work? |
| 16:18.32 | jason^ | do i need to do something to get my dvd drive to show up in /dev/ ? |
| 16:18.35 | PerfDave | dkowis: Are you using Debian's Apache2 packages? If not, why not? |
| 16:18.36 | asg | dkowis: right |
| 16:18.45 | ratonn | PerfDave: do I need exim4-daemon-heavy? |
| 16:18.51 | ratonn | I currently have exim4-daemon-light |
| 16:18.52 | asg | dkowis: 3,4 and 5 are left for local administrator use. |
| 16:18.54 | dkowis | asg: ah, I see, debian by default starts to runlevel2 not runlevel 3 |
| 16:19.07 | PerfDave | ratonn: No |
| 16:19.12 | dkowis | PerfDave: no, I apt-get'ed it :) I'm just new to debian |
| 16:19.19 | dkowis | asg: ah, didn't know that, oki thanks :) |
| 16:19.27 | asg | dkowis: you're welcome |
| 16:19.31 | ratonn | PerfDave: exim4-config 4.50-8 |
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| 16:19.37 | PerfDave | dkowis: If you installed apache2 with apt, then you shouldn't need to touch initscripts or runlevels or anything. You shouldn't need to touch them for anything in Debian. |
| 16:19.45 | rossi | Bus 001 Device 003 ID 1822:3202 Twinhan VisionDTV USB-Ter / HAMA USB DVB-T device warm <<< anyone knows the modules name for it?? |
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| 16:20.06 | PerfDave | ratonn: Same as me, and I get told how to do SMTP auth when it asks me for the samrthosts I want to use. |
| 16:20.08 | Ravious | Hello everyone |
| 16:20.21 | dkowis | PerfDave: I don't think I did... Right now I'm trying to figure out what the command is to check from which package a file came from |
| 16:20.36 | _daniel_ | anyone using SID, can you cat me your sources.list file ? |
| 16:20.45 | nkuttler | _daniel_: why? |
| 16:20.48 | asg | _daniel_: apt-setup |
| 16:20.57 | _daniel_ | I want to change my repos |
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| 16:21.06 | asg | dkowis: apt-file |
| 16:21.08 | Ravious | Im trying to install php4 with gd support.. I think I have all the packages I need installed, yet when I try to acccess a php page that needs gd it tells me that its not supported.. anyone have any ideas on how to check this? |
| 16:21.09 | ratonn | PerfDave: we must've chosen different schemes |
| 16:21.10 | _daniel_ | I use some that are out of line right know |
| 16:21.10 | spoopin | dkowis: apt-file |
| 16:21.12 | asg | _daniel_: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 16:21.13 | ratonn | I chose internet mail server. |
| 16:21.15 | ratonn | Not SmartHost |
| 16:21.24 | asg | spoopin: hiya |
| 16:21.25 | dkowis | thanks :) |
| 16:21.33 | spoopin | asg: happy vaction ;) |
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| 16:21.48 | asg | spoopin: very, doing a whole lot of nothing |
| 16:21.57 | _daniel_ | nkuttler, query me your output please |
| 16:22.01 | spoopin | asg: quiet so far here today |
| 16:22.09 | PerfDave | ratonn: Oh, you want SMTP auth when clients connect to *you*, not for you to connect to an authenticating server? |
| 16:22.12 | asg | spoopin: yeah, I haven't seen much traffic |
| 16:22.16 | scummgle | hi, when i do ./configure, i get this |
| 16:22.16 | scummgle | checking for gcc... gcc |
| 16:22.16 | scummgle | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 16:22.24 | asg | scummgle: install build-essential |
| 16:22.27 | stew | !faq scummgle |
| 16:22.28 | spoopin | asg: It's nice. |
| 16:22.28 | dpkg | scummgle: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 16:22.34 | asg | spoopin: :) |
| 16:22.54 | scummgle | dpkg asg stew thanks |
| 16:23.02 | ratonn | PerfDave: correct |
| 16:23.17 | PerfDave | ratonn: Right. You weren't clear when you said 17:06 < ratonn> Is there a way to setup SMTP auth in exim4? |
| 16:23.33 | dkowis | okay I'm reinstalling apache2 trying to get the init script installed... |
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| 16:23.51 | nkuttler | dkowis: remove --purge it |
| 16:23.53 | _daniel_ | Hey anyone ? |
| 16:23.58 | asg | dkowis: if you've manually removed them, you'll need to follow the factoid (/msg dpkg confmiss) |
| 16:24.05 | _daniel_ | or even if you are on testing |
| 16:24.09 | dkowis | asg: okay thanks |
| 16:24.11 | ratonn | PerfDave: i apologize |
| 16:24.36 | ratonn | PerfDave: do i need to edit exim4's conf files? |
| 16:25.13 | PerfDave | ratonn: I have no idea how you run SMTP AUTH on an exim4 *server*, I've never done it. |
| 16:25.34 | dkowis | another question would be, which package do the initscripts actually come from? It's not apache2 |
| 16:25.42 | stew | dkowis: apache2-common |
| 16:25.54 | dkowis | stew: thanks |
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| 16:26.36 | dkowis | and yet still, within rc2.d there's no init script for apache |
| 16:27.02 | ratonn | PerfDave: can I edit the exim4 conf files debian generates? |
| 16:27.10 | adii | i can't have my laptop's network card working |
| 16:27.12 | dkowis | I have a K30apache2 in rc1.d, but that's it |
| 16:27.33 | stew | dkowis: is there an /etc/init.d/apache2 ? |
| 16:27.39 | dkowis | stew: yes |
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| 16:27.46 | PerfDave | ratonn: You can, but they may be overwritten by invoking dpkg-reconfigure, or by package upgrades. |
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| 16:27.53 | asg | dkowis: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 16:27.58 | nfi|ermes | how can i kill a root session on pts/2 ? |
| 16:28.03 | stew | dkowis: create the rc2.d simlinks with update-rc.d or rcconf |
| 16:28.12 | asg | ratonn: look at chapter 33 of the exim spec |
| 16:28.12 | dkowis | asg: I've done what that said to do, on apache2 and apache2-common |
| 16:28.14 | akusarujin | anyone ever seen this problem after a power outage? "/sbin/init/: 429: cannot open dev/console: no such file" if so, any idea on how to fix it? |
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| 16:28.27 | dkowis | stew: that's what I was looking for update-rc.d or rcconf, thanks :) |
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| 16:28.55 | asg | dkowis: hmmm, odd |
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| 16:29.55 | ratonn | PerfDave: when dpkg asks whether ot use one big file or lots of small ones, by choosing one big one, does it ignore all files nder /etc/exim4/conf.d ? |
| 16:29.59 | dkowis | I must've done something dumb... |
| 16:30.16 | dkowis | doing update-rc.d apache2 defaults complains that "system startup links already exist" |
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| 16:30.31 | dkowis | and yet find. | grep rc | grep apache only shows the K30apache2 |
| 16:30.39 | PerfDave | ratonn: I presume that's what the difference between monolithic and split configuration is. |
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| 16:31.03 | dkowis | I'm just going to make the symlinks myself... |
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| 16:31.11 | SimonRaven | ratonn: no, not all |
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| 16:31.38 | amorphix | sheesh |
| 16:31.51 | amorphix | my workstation has lost its route, wtf |
| 16:32.12 | nfi|ermes | how can i kill a root session on pts/2 ? |
| 16:32.30 | dkowis | kill the pid of it from a different terminal |
| 16:32.36 | amorphix | everything looks fine, can do loop back ping, eth dev configured right, cant ping router |
| 16:32.40 | amorphix | any ideas? |
| 16:32.43 | nkuttler | nfi|ermes: kill the shell? |
| 16:33.02 | nfi|ermes | i have not opened it |
| 16:33.03 | Ravious | ok, does anyone know of a PDF package for debian to add PDF support to PHP4? |
| 16:33.08 | nfi|ermes | it s a remote session |
| 16:33.23 | amorphix | hi |
| 16:33.36 | nfi|ermes | i understand |
| 16:33.44 | nfi|ermes | thx nkuttler |
| 16:33.46 | ratonn | PerfDave: can I add regular exim configurations to update-exim4.conf.conf ? |
| 16:33.56 | nkuttler | Ravious: what do you mean pdf support? produce pdfs? |
| 16:34.12 | amorphix | any network gurus present? |
| 16:34.23 | amorphix | got a slight network prob here |
| 16:34.36 | asg | amorphix: first, check that there is a link light on the nic and switch |
| 16:34.38 | zinx | !guru |
| 16:34.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, guru is (GURU Understands Real Unix) or An expert, especially in "{Unix} guru". Implies not only {wizard} skill but also a history of being a knowledge resource for others. Less often, used (with a qualifier) for other experts on other systems, as in "VMS guru". or what meditates inside Amigas. or it's pointless to ask for a guru in a knowledge field because people being humble, nobody will answer your question. "GUide to ... |
| 16:35.17 | rossi | anyone can help me to load the right module name of my dvb-t usb box |
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| 16:35.22 | rossi | lsusb gives me |
| 16:35.24 | amorphix | asg: the link is fine, both leds on, and workstation shows the auto output on terminal when i plug cable in |
| 16:35.26 | Ravious | Yes.. that gives php4 the ability to make pdf files.. |
| 16:35.27 | PerfDave | ratonn: Why are you asking me this? Have I not made it clear that I'm not familiar with complicated Exim configuration? |
| 16:35.30 | rossi | Bus 001 Device 003 ID 1822:3202 Twinhan VisionDTV USB-Ter / HAMA USB DVB-T device warm |
| 16:35.44 | asg | amorphix: does /sbin/route -n show consistent routes and a viable gateway |
| 16:35.48 | ratonn | asg: can I add regular exim configurations to update-exim4.conf.conf ? |
| 16:35.52 | amorphix | i will check..brb |
| 16:36.06 | nkuttler | Ravious: apt-cache search php pdf |
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| 16:36.13 | asg | ratonn: I always use /etc/exim4/conf.d myself |
| 16:36.32 | darkc | Hi. Are there known problems with libpam-modules or login ? I can't login on tty (gdm or pts no prob) |
| 16:36.41 | asg | ratonn: check /usr/share/doc/exim* there should be an explanation of what you can do and how to do it in regards to split v. monolithic configs |
| 16:36.53 | asg | darkc: what debian version? |
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| 16:37.10 | darkc | asg: unstable |
| 16:37.34 | asg | darkc: well, works fine here. So there's either a bug (check the bts) or you misconfigured something (check /etc/pam.d/login) |
| 16:37.43 | charzero | How does debian determine its library search path? |
| 16:37.55 | bbrazil | charzero: /etc/ld.config usually |
| 16:38.08 | nix | I'm looking for a streaming solution that allows me to start a static-file stream half-way, e.g. http://server:port/file?starttime=600s. I've spitted through all the VLC docs/archives, checked out icecast2, but to no avail. I know windows (eep!) media server can do it. anyone done this, or know of an app? |
| 16:38.13 | bbrazil | charzero: or something liek that |
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| 16:38.27 | asg | charzero: /sbin/ldconfig -p (will list all in the cache) |
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| 16:39.09 | charzero | asg: how do i make sure it users /usr/local/lib ? |
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| 16:39.21 | asg | charzero: put /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf ; run /sbin/ldconfig |
| 16:39.58 | charzero | asg: on a fresh install, should i have /etc/ld.so.conf ? |
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| 16:40.14 | asg | charzero: probably not. |
| 16:40.20 | asg | charzero: just create one |
| 16:40.41 | ratonn | What does it means when the terminal # is replaced by > |
| 16:40.42 | ratonn | > |
| 16:40.50 | ratonn | ? |
| 16:41.09 | asg | ratonn: that you probably entered a '"' or "'" but never terminated it so it's still waiting for more input |
| 16:41.17 | asg | ratonn: or, you finished a line with '\' |
| 16:41.24 | amorphix | asg: I checked and compared with my working laptop and it looks the same and viable |
| 16:41.34 | atrus | can any body tell me why 'find . -mtime +7' shows all files older than 7 days, but 'find -mtime +14' shows files that were only created yesterday? |
| 16:41.38 | ratonn | asg: ok, thanks. |
| 16:41.53 | atrus | 'find . -mtime +14' that is |
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| 16:42.00 | asg | atrus: there is no 'creation time' in Unix, only access, modification, and change |
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| 16:42.32 | citral | asg: and the differance between modification and change is? |
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| 16:42.47 | atrus | asg: right, and i'm watching the modification times. but 'find . -mtime +14' lists files that 'ls -l' says were modified today. |
| 16:43.16 | amorphix | i wonder if my nic cable is damaged |
| 16:43.44 | asg | citral: change maybe the wrong word |
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| 16:45.40 | atrus | wait. i'm passing the results to ls, and it seems it's matching the directory itself sometimes, so it just lists that directory. |
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| 16:45.53 | stew | atrus: ls -d |
| 16:45.55 | lra_ | how do i get the ip address of a box on a network? |
| 16:46.09 | stew | atrus: or find -type f |
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| 16:46.44 | asg | lra_: do a broadcast ping (if it's on the same subnet) and look for likely candidates |
| 16:46.53 | atrus | stew: yeah, that's what i'm doing: find . -type f -and -mtime +11 -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l --sort=time -r -d |
| 16:47.08 | atrus | stew: and that lists only "." |
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| 16:47.28 | atrus | i'm pretty sure i'm doing something totally wrong :) |
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| 16:48.15 | asg | citral: one was the change time of the inode metadata, the other the file contents |
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| 16:48.30 | citral | roger |
| 16:48.31 | deepan | how do recover data from a cd that gives input output error while mounting ? |
| 16:48.41 | atrus | with -mtime +10 it doesn't list the directory, but lists a whole bunch of files |
| 16:49.11 | stew | atrus: i dunno why it would be returning . with -type f |
| 16:49.18 | PerfDave | deepan: You might try copying a binary image of the disk with dd, and using some kind of iso9660 recovery tool... |
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| 16:49.38 | deepan | PerfDave: it does not mount.. will dd work without mounting |
| 16:49.50 | atrus | ohhh i see. it's passing *zero* results, and ls defaults to . when given no parameters. hmm. |
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| 16:51.40 | guru | i've compiled my kernel with acpi support, however when i launch wmbattery it still reports "No APM, ACPI, or SPIC support in kernel"...is there something else i need to do? |
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| 16:51.54 | guru | this is for a laptop, so i need to monitor my battery power |
| 16:51.55 | ratonn | "503 STARTTLS command used when not advertised" Does it mean it's not uspported? |
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| 16:52.23 | PerfDave | deepan: You can use dd on the dev node, not on the mounted partition |
| 16:52.25 | MaviLim-mIRC-Edi | www.klarnet.net |
| 16:52.32 | LSorensen | guru: does the laptop support acpi? did you enable it builtin or as a module? |
| 16:52.37 | MaviLim-mIRC-Edi | free porn mp3s -> www.klarnet.net |
| 16:52.45 | guru | LSorensen: yes, built-in |
| 16:52.47 | LSorensen | guru: does it work with a debian kernel? |
| 16:52.47 | stew | !ops MaviLim-mIRC-Edi is a spammer |
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| 16:52.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: MaviLim-mIRC-Edi is a spammer |
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| 16:53.19 | guru | LSorensen: i still get the same messages when i launch an acpi monitoring tool, but yes it does work with a stock kernel as well |
| 16:53.38 | alow | hacked -> www.Klarnet.net |
| 16:53.40 | stew | guru: why not use a debian kernel? |
| 16:53.47 | LSorensen | guru: so it works with stock debian kernel but not yours? |
| 16:53.59 | guru | stew: i needed a few more things compiled in |
| 16:54.03 | asg | ratonn: if it's an older smtp server it may require that you connect to ssmtp (465/tcp) |
| 16:54.06 | guru | LSorensen: no, same results either way |
| 16:54.20 | stew | guru: like what? |
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| 16:54.28 | Kevin_Mitnick | öhö |
| 16:54.51 | asg | haha |
| 16:54.53 | stew | thanks, mistery op |
| 16:54.55 | LSorensen | guru: so are you sure the laptop has acpi support at all? |
| 16:54.56 | UdontKnow | gah |
| 16:54.56 | bbrazil | thats tkes care of that I guess |
| 16:54.58 | UdontKnow | stew: me |
| 16:54.59 | guru | stew: some things compiled in as opposed to modules, some tweaks, removal of unneeded modules, etc |
| 16:55.07 | guru | LSorensen: i am 180% positive it does |
| 16:55.34 | LSorensen | guru: some have apm but not acpi |
| 16:55.41 | guru | LSorensen: mine has both |
| 16:55.41 | LSorensen | guru: how old is it? |
| 16:55.44 | some1too | whats wrong with a file.tar that I tar -xzvf file.tar and replies not in gzip format |
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| 16:55.49 | guru | LSorensen: < 3 years |
| 16:55.54 | LSorensen | guru: and which one is enabled in the bios? which one is enabled in the kernel? |
| 16:56.03 | guru | LSorensen: acpi, and acpi |
| 16:56.18 | guru | LSorensen: i'll paste the result of dmesg | grep -i acpi to rafb.net/paste |
| 16:57.15 | asg | some1too: it isn't a gzipped tar. Just use tar -xvf instead |
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| 16:57.27 | stew | s/-// |
| 16:57.29 | dondelelcaro | some1too: file.tar isn't in gzip format. |
| 16:57.37 | dondelelcaro | some1too: use tar xvf foofile.tar |
| 16:57.51 | asg | stew: old habits |
| 16:57.54 | stew | :) |
| 16:58.01 | LSorensen | guru: which kernel version? |
| 16:58.03 | guru | LSorensen: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QRaCoK99.html |
| 16:58.04 | asg | stew: I still kick myself when I do ps -ef |
| 16:58.06 | guru | 2.6.12 |
| 16:58.57 | amorphix | does anyone know what driver module an Origo WLL-1200 Wireless LAN Cardbus will need? |
| 16:59.06 | LSorensen | guru: and acpi/battery support is enabled in the kernel too? |
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| 16:59.16 | guru | LSorensen: yep, compiled in |
| 16:59.18 | LSorensen | guru: what model is that machine? |
| 16:59.27 | guru | LSorensen: want me to upload my .config? |
| 16:59.31 | guru | compaq armada m700 |
| 17:00.05 | asg | amorphix: google shows nothing, you might attempt to use ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net to get it working with Windows drivers. |
| 17:00.09 | LSorensen | guru: is acpid installed and running? |
| 17:00.14 | guru | i patched the kernel with the acpi patch (acpi.sourceforge.net) too |
| 17:00.18 | amorphix | asg: thanks |
| 17:00.44 | guru | LSorensen: kacpid, yes |
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| 17:00.58 | LSorensen | guru: no acpid |
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| 17:01.33 | LSorensen | guru: as in apt-get install acpid |
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| 17:02.11 | guru | LSorensen: no, that was not installed |
| 17:02.12 | stew | amorphix: do you know what chipset it has? |
| 17:02.21 | LSorensen | guru: I believe it is required |
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| 17:02.43 | LSorensen | guru: at least this page says so: http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/linuxcompaqarmadam700.html |
| 17:02.45 | guru | well son-of-a-byte |
| 17:03.02 | LSorensen | guru: did that help? |
| 17:03.15 | guru | LSorensen: very much so, thank you greatly |
| 17:03.20 | LSorensen | gug: great. |
| 17:03.40 | guru | now, one more tiny issue...in order to enable acpi i must pass apm=off noapm acpi=on to the kernel upon boot |
| 17:03.46 | LSorensen | guru: acpi does need a daemon to monitor it and handle events. and for some reason it needs that to monitor the battery (never did understand why) |
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| 17:04.00 | LSorensen | guru: why? if you didn't enable any apm in the kernel, you shouldn't need to |
| 17:04.00 | guru | that's not all that big of a deal, but if i ever recompile then it gets overwritten |
| 17:04.10 | guru | yes, apm is enabled as a module |
| 17:04.13 | syntaxx | i just want to know whats the app in lower right in here >> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=73177710443594f9f38086&m=screen |
| 17:04.17 | guru | i left it in "just in case" |
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| 17:04.46 | LSorensen | guru: you add those to /boot/grub/menu.lst to the kopt line |
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| 17:04.58 | guru | LSorensen: yes |
| 17:04.58 | amorphix | i have just setup a wireless router and everything is working fine except for 1 workstation has no route, yet the nic is configured fine, i can ping loopback etcndiswrapper-source_1..> |
| 17:05.05 | amorphix | any ideas/suggestions? |
| 17:05.05 | LSorensen | guru: then all new .deb's installed use that automatically |
| 17:05.06 | IRCMonkey | i have a problem with iproutes , is there someone to help me ? |
| 17:05.22 | guru | oh well, t's working so i'm happy. LSorensen thank you again for your help, it's much appreciated |
| 17:05.42 | guru | IRCMonkey: what's your problem? |
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| 17:05.49 | shadfc | anyone familiar with pyzor (with amavisd-new)? pyzor ping returns success, but when i try a spamassassin --lint -D, the pyzor stuff gets timeout errors |
| 17:06.03 | asg | syntaxx: might be fbdesk (since it's a fluxbox wm) Otherwise, gdesklets or some other eye candy like karamba perhaps. |
| 17:06.03 | IRCMonkey | ok, i route packets dependign on source ip address, |
| 17:06.10 | IRCMonkey | it works fine but it is very very slow |
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| 17:06.20 | stew | IRCMonkey: try #lartc |
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| 17:06.31 | IRCMonkey | ok tx |
| 17:06.34 | amorphix | hi |
| 17:06.45 | guru | LSorensen: i've been told that acpi has better reporting in terms of battery life than apm, is that true? |
| 17:06.47 | syntaxx | asg, the lower right that looks like a 'top'? |
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| 17:06.55 | LSorensen | guru: it should. apm was pretty pathetic |
| 17:07.00 | asg | syntaxx: looks like icons, do you mean lower left? |
| 17:07.12 | guru | yeah i agree |
| 17:07.18 | syntaxx | asg, err lower left :D |
| 17:07.35 | guru | now i need a good battery monitor for the dock in windowmaker |
| 17:07.37 | asg | syntaxx: stage right ;) |
| 17:07.44 | duglas | I am running Etch but there is no package for k3b. How can I install k3b from Sid? |
| 17:07.52 | asg | syntaxx: anyway, I'm not sure what that is, I've never seen it before to be honest. |
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| 17:08.07 | syntaxx | asg, oh ic.. it looks good :D |
| 17:08.08 | ratonn | What program is used to manage /etc/exim4/passwd? |
| 17:08.18 | ratonn | doc says htpasswd can't be used |
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| 17:08.40 | IRCMonkey | there is nobody in #lartc |
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| 17:08.50 | SimonRaven | ratonn: an editor |
| 17:09.10 | syntaxx | asg, how bout the terminal upper left that is transparent and it doesnt look like an a terminal? |
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| 17:09.33 | rossi | hi |
| 17:09.42 | ratonn | SimonRaven: it wants crypted passwords though |
| 17:09.46 | fbi | syntaxx: look at the fluxbox toolbar. it's a transparent aterm. |
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| 17:09.59 | nilse | hello. I have some problems getting jabber-msn to work, Ive read in /usr/share/doc/jabber-msn/README.Debian but it just wont work |
| 17:10.02 | rossi | anyone knows how to find the right modules name for my dvb-t usb box=? |
| 17:10.14 | rossi | I have the lsusb output |
| 17:10.22 | nilse | when I use <service type="msn" jid="msn.localhost" name="MSN Link"> |
| 17:10.22 | nilse | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.22 | nilse | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.22 | nilse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:10.25 | asg | syntaxx: that's either an Eterm or aterm using pseudo transparent mode and no window embellishments |
| 17:10.27 | IRCMonkey | do you know if it"s possible to use severals interfaces with debian without having slow connection ? |
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| 17:10.37 | nilse | DOH, I am really sorry for that |
| 17:10.40 | syntaxx | ok thanks |
| 17:10.44 | asg | syntaxx: aterm -rv -tr +sb -fn 6x13 -fb 6x13 -sh 30 (does something similar) |
| 17:10.46 | amorphix | hi everyone |
| 17:10.47 | SimonRaven | ratonn: so you encrypt it, according to the docs |
| 17:10.49 | amorphix | i have just setup a wireless router and everything is working fine except for 1 workstation has no route, yet the nic is configured fine, i can ping loopback etcndiswrapper-source_1..> |
| 17:10.55 | ratonn | asg: why can't /etc/exim4/passwd be generated with htpasswd? |
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| 17:11.02 | amorphix | any ideas/suggestions what to check? |
| 17:11.05 | asg | syntaxx: try apt-cache search load meter (see if any of those are the meter in question) |
| 17:11.05 | syntaxx | asg, the apps on lower left is conky :D i think no conky on deb hehe |
| 17:11.18 | Daffy-PKF | lo |
| 17:11.19 | asg | !info conky |
| 17:11.25 | nilse | when I use webreg-0.4 to try and register the MSN service in jabber i get "There was an error registering with the transport" |
| 17:11.26 | dpkg | conky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 87 kB, Installed size: 248 kB |
| 17:11.29 | asg | syntaxx: ^^^ |
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| 17:11.42 | ratonn | asg: nm, it says because htpasswd uses different encryption |
| 17:12.01 | ratonn | what encryption does it want? |
| 17:12.03 | ratonn | doesn't specify |
| 17:12.05 | some1too | which icq client can u recommend me using enlightenment? |
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| 17:12.18 | Nod51 | I wodul like to install Debian onto a 128mb flash drive for specific things like movie playing (via network), web browsing, and other media center like things. I know there are distributions out there like PuppyLinux but is there a project that would allow me to use apt-get for only the things I need? |
| 17:12.21 | syntaxx | asg, my aterm is like what you've been typed :D |
| 17:12.27 | Daffy-PKF | i need help to share my printer with samba. My printer is on linux, samba and cups installed. In windows xp, the printer has been found and installed, but when trying to print, it says there is a write error |
| 17:12.27 | asg | syntaxx: hah :) |
| 17:12.40 | fbi | syntaxx: there is a 'torsmo' package for sarge that is similiar |
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| 17:12.57 | syntaxx | fbi, thanks |
| 17:13.11 | guru | LSorensen: do you have any idea how i can drain the batteries or should i just let it run on them until exhausted? |
| 17:13.35 | blaamann | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.47 | syntaxx | cool :D |
| 17:13.58 | amorphix | im stuck guys |
| 17:14.08 | amorphix | i have just setup a wireless router and everything is working fine except for 1 workstation has no route, yet the nic is configured fine, i can ping loopback. any ideas? |
| 17:14.44 | PerfDave | amorphix: Being able to ping loopback doesn't mean that the NIC is configured correctly, it's a different interface :) |
| 17:15.07 | amorphix | PerfDave: sorry i got mixed up, I meant I can ping the nic's ip address |
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| 17:15.10 | PerfDave | amorphix: Does "ifconfig" show the wireless card in the workstation with correct IP configuration? |
| 17:15.32 | amorphix | PerfDave: this is a standard pci nic, it does show in ifconfig as being properly configured |
| 17:15.42 | duglas | ping the router, if that fails check the cable |
| 17:15.44 | amorphix | but i cannot ping the router or any machine on my lan |
| 17:15.46 | PerfDave | amorphix: Then what's it got to do with the wireless router? |
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| 17:16.16 | amorphix | PerfDave: I dont know I thought I would just mention it, since Ive updated my network today |
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| 17:16.50 | LSorensen | guru: if you want to drain the batterirs, just let it run (to speed it up make sure it's doing something cpu intensive) |
| 17:16.52 | PerfDave | amorphix: I think you need to be more clear about what your problem is. |
| 17:16.52 | amorphix | maybe it is a dodgy cable? but the led's are on at both ends, and when i unplug and plug the cable at either end, my workstation's nic responds with the auto msg and 100mps etc |
| 17:17.14 | amorphix | PerfDave: no route to host msg when pinging from workstation to router/other machines on LAN |
| 17:17.16 | some1too | which icq client is recommendable? |
| 17:17.18 | SimonRaven | guru: like build a kernel =) |
| 17:17.25 | SimonRaven | none |
| 17:17.47 | SimonRaven | centericq if anything or gaim... |
| 17:17.53 | asg | some1too: I use bitlbee to provide an irc to im gateway (so I can use irssi) for connecting with various IM users. |
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| 17:18.09 | amorphix | im out of options :-/ |
| 17:18.16 | PerfDave | amorphix: You have a Debian box on a wired LAN, and it can't ping anything? |
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| 17:18.19 | some1too | asg, is there one out like miranda? that supports icq, msn plus plus all in one? |
| 17:18.23 | zaikxtox | hello.is there some problem with the popularity contest package? |
| 17:18.35 | zaikxtox | The subject of the message is: popularity-contest submission |
| 17:18.35 | zaikxtox | The date of the message is: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:47:03 -0300 |
| 17:18.35 | zaikxtox | The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is: |
| 17:18.35 | zaikxtox | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.35 | zaikxtox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.38 | asg | some1too: gaim is probably your best bet |
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| 17:18.53 | amorphix | PerfDave: yeah I have a debian box on a wireless router but it is wired into a switch port, and it cannot ping anything |
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| 17:19.11 | PerfDave | amorphix: OK, I'm giving up now :) |
| 17:19.17 | amorphix | :-( |
| 17:19.26 | nvz | |splat|: you around? |
| 17:19.34 | WoodsDog | how can i tell if a machine i am on is a hyperthreaded box, or if it's got 2 cpus'? |
| 17:19.44 | goccia | icq ? licq |
| 17:19.45 | amorphix | workstation----->wired--->router----->cable modem--->internet |
| 17:20.01 | amorphix | workstation----->ping--->router = no route to host |
| 17:20.04 | ratonn | sweet, exim4 smtp auth working |
| 17:20.05 | ratonn | :) |
| 17:20.05 | asg | WoodsDog: install a -smp kernel then use 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' |
| 17:20.23 | asg | amorphix: then your routes are not correct |
| 17:20.31 | ratonn | anywhere i can post a quick howto? |
| 17:20.37 | amorphix | workstation2---->ping---->workstation = no route to host |
| 17:20.37 | WoodsDog | asg: i have that installed, and it shows multiple cpus, as if there were multiple |
| 17:20.38 | asg | ratonn: debian-administration.org |
| 17:20.47 | WoodsDog | i just want to identify if ht is enabled |
| 17:20.48 | amorphix | how can I check? |
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| 17:21.00 | amorphix | the config seems identicial to my other boxes which are working fine |
| 17:21.09 | w3rdn4 | what is a good way to get a job working with computers? |
| 17:21.15 | asg | WoodsDog: does /proc/cpuinfo show more cpus than you physically have in the box? if so, ht is working. If not, it isn't |
| 17:21.27 | asg | amorphix: /sbin/route -n |
| 17:21.30 | setog3 | wow zsh seg fault .. computer down |
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| 17:21.51 | amorphix | asg: I did that earlier and the route is identicial to my laptop which works fine (im using it now) |
| 17:21.55 | WoodsDog | yes it's working, but let's say i am on a box i know nothing about, 1000 miles away. I want to identify if it has multiple cpu's, or if it's just has ht enabled. |
| 17:21.58 | amorphix | so the route seems to be ok |
| 17:22.00 | stew | setog3: zsh shouldn't be able to crash the machine, you must have bigger issues, like bad memory, bad mb, cpu overheating |
| 17:22.17 | amorphix | should I reinitialise the router or something? |
| 17:22.18 | asg | amorphix: yes but you keep rambling about being connected to wireless and other stuff. |
| 17:22.35 | amorphix | sorry, i maybe mentioned unnecessary info which confused everyone |
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| 17:22.49 | amorphix | for all intents and purposes this is a wired lan |
| 17:22.56 | stew | WoodsDog: cat /proc/cpuinfo ; if it is hyperthreading, there will be "ht" in the flags line |
| 17:22.58 | thorie_ | im so confused |
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| 17:23.23 | asg | amorphix: debug items: 1) can you ping eth0's address. 2) can you ping the gateway's address (thingy with 'UG' flags in /sbin/route -n) |
| 17:23.25 | WoodsDog | stew: that rocks..thanks man |
| 17:23.25 | rossi | hi I have that http://www.twinhan.com/product_terrestrial_3.asp |
| 17:23.45 | rossi | anyone knows if there are modules for that in kernel 2.6.12 |
| 17:23.48 | rossi | ?? |
| 17:24.02 | amorphix | 1 = yes. 2 = i will check..brb |
| 17:24.27 | stew | rossi: ask #mythtv-users |
| 17:24.34 | duglas | How can I install one program from Sid while keeping the rest of the system at Etch? |
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| 17:24.42 | amorphix | asg: 2 = no |
| 17:24.46 | asg | goccia: run Windows, they'll arrive soon enough |
| 17:24.53 | smagy2 | hello folks, would appreciate some help on this. i get errors like modules.dep not found during boot up although /lib/modules/kernel-version/modules.dep exists. i also get this in kern.log localhost kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled i am 2.6.13.4 |
| 17:24.57 | stew | !quick sid/etch mix |
| 17:25.08 | asg | amorphix: okay. Is the gateway in /sbin/route -n the actual correct one? |
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| 17:25.15 | stew | !quick etch/sid mix |
| 17:25.15 | dpkg | methinks quick etch/sid mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, open sources.list, duplicate your etch lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update, apt-get -t unstable install foo to install foo from sid rather than etch, or this will probably break if packages from unstable are compiled with gcc 4 and packages in etch aren't. |
| 17:25.16 | smagy2 | **i am using 2.6.13.4 on stable |
| 17:25.20 | amorphix | if i had the nic number mixed up, i wouldnt be able to ping the nic eh? |
| 17:25.26 | Sir_LeChucK | smagy2: im having trouble compiling a new kernel too |
| 17:25.31 | goccia | asg: never ever but i feel so top dog setting this heavy kinda l0pht heavy industry :)) |
| 17:25.35 | amorphix | i have it set to eth0 and theres only 1 nic in the box, so thats correct eh |
| 17:25.35 | aXp | hi all! what's etch_d-i << what the hell is "i" |
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| 17:25.40 | nvz | bah comcast tells me I cannot take a registered modem outside the house its registered to.. thats aggrivating |
| 17:25.45 | amorphix | asg: it is indeed |
| 17:25.46 | asg | amorphix: you would if the interface was up and configured irregardless of whether anything was plugged into it. |
| 17:25.47 | stew | !d-i |
| 17:25.47 | dpkg | it has been said that d-i is you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 17:25.53 | smagy2 | Sir_LeChucK: oh |
| 17:25.55 | stew | aXp: d-i == debian-installer |
| 17:25.59 | smagy2 | Sir_LeChucK: any solution ? |
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| 17:26.05 | asg | amorphix: if you have more than one interface, just remove the one that isn't connected to the switch for now. |
| 17:26.07 | nvz | I was counting on being able to take the modem with me this weekend |
| 17:26.12 | amorphix | asg: ok, so the nic is up and configured right then, as i can ping it |
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| 17:26.22 | amorphix | asg: theres only 1 |
| 17:26.36 | nvz | I think they may be lying I need to test it |
| 17:26.43 | Sir_LeChucK | smagy2: not yet.. its driving me crazy :S.. i got that error... i recompile and now i get VFS: cannot mount root fs or something similar... |
| 17:27.00 | aXp | stew, but there is an "normal" directory also |
| 17:27.02 | amorphix | if my cable is faulty, im in deep shit because its about 7 meters and wired thru walls etc |
| 17:27.03 | asg | amorphix: okay, paste your /etc/network/interfaces to our pasterbot (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 17:27.13 | nvz | I really really need that modem this weekend it would save me much aggrivation |
| 17:27.13 | Sir_LeChucK | smagy2: it's like ide isn't working or something... |
| 17:27.20 | amorphix | okay, i will have to go write it down...brb |
| 17:27.38 | smagy2 | Sir: oh. well for me the system completly boots up. i ran depmod 2.6.13.4 to make sure that file is created |
| 17:27.59 | stew | aXp: where are you seeing this? |
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| 17:28.23 | nvz | they claim that the MAC ID is registered to a certain node and taking the modem even to a neighbors house would cause it not to work. |
| 17:28.25 | smagy2 | Sir_LeChucK: i am assuming that you had configured your kernel to have either ext2/ext3/resierfs/xfs to be built into the kernel and not as a module |
| 17:28.42 | nvz | thats really aggrivating. the thing should work anywhere on their network. |
| 17:28.47 | Sir_LeChucK | smagy2: u r assuming right :P |
| 17:28.57 | Sir_LeChucK | reiserfs is my / |
| 17:29.08 | aXp | stew, things are clear now, my fault |
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| 17:29.29 | smagy2 | Sir_LeChucK: :D |
| 17:29.42 | Sir_LeChucK | smagy2: i should put them as module :S ? |
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| 17:30.35 | smagy2 | Sir_LeChucK: err no. it should be compiled into the kernel . unless you have initrd.img i think i could be wrong. |
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| 17:31.33 | Sir_LeChucK | smagy2: i tried with and without initrd.img... i don;t know what to do... if i apt-get install the kernel-image-2.6 it works perfect.. if i compile it my own using the same config then that happens... any idea ? |
| 17:31.45 | amorphix | asg: Broadcast: 192.168.1.255, Inet addr: 192.168.1.2, Mask: 255.255.255.0 ... lots of packets TX, none RX, lots of errors... ping to router/other machines = Destination Host Unreachable |
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| 17:31.57 | paxmaster | how come people only can burn dvd 4200000000 |
| 17:31.59 | ratonn | Is there any advantage to setting up dnsmasq for dns lookups rather than using my ISP's dns servers? |
| 17:32.00 | goccia | such a delicatessen this volatile : really clever |
| 17:32.05 | stew | Sir_LeChucK: if you compile your own with the same config you need to generate an initrd for sure |
| 17:32.34 | Sir_LeChucK | stew: i generate it... like.. 5 or 6 times... |
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| 17:32.44 | stew | Sir_LeChucK: and your bootloader knows about it? |
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| 17:33.11 | Sir_LeChucK | stew: yes... he shoulds, i add a initrd /path/to/initrd.img |
| 17:33.11 | some1too | I have just interrupted an apt installation process with ctrl+c and I would like to clear all previously downloaded files.... how to? |
| 17:33.13 | asg | amorphix: make sure a) no other machine on your network has the same ipaddress. Also, what 'gateway' is configured in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:33.24 | asg | some1too: apt-get clean |
| 17:33.31 | amorphix | gateway = 192.168.1.254 (router) |
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| 17:34.00 | Sir_LeChucK | stew: ill try configuring reiserfs as module and using my generated initrd... |
| 17:34.10 | asg | amorphix: in the output of /sbin/ifconfig eth0, do you see lots of errors? |
| 17:34.12 | syntaxx | asg, im trying to install that conky in source but when i ./configure i get the final error configure: error: something went wrong when checking for Xdbe (double buffer ext) what do you think i have that error? |
| 17:34.19 | amorphix | asg: i can guarantee no other machine has same IP, i set them 1,2,3... 1 being my server, 2 this problem workstation, and 3 my laptop |
| 17:34.20 | stew | Sir_LeChucK: you use lilo or grub? |
| 17:34.24 | Sir_LeChucK | stew: grub |
| 17:34.25 | pro | guys, how do i tell apt to use a ftp proxy? I tried ftp_proxy="1.2.3.4:8080" but that didnt do anything |
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| 17:34.28 | davut | hi |
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| 17:34.41 | amorphix | asg: i will check brb |
| 17:34.58 | davut | I wanna install postgresql and yesterday someone told me about compiling with deb-src |
| 17:35.01 | asg | syntaxx: you might just trying a simple backport instead (/msg dpkg simple sid backport) |
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| 17:35.16 | asg | syntaxx: or check backports.org to see if someone has already done one |
| 17:35.21 | davut | but I dont know what to add to sources.list file |
| 17:35.23 | syntaxx | asg, ok thanks |
| 17:35.26 | pro | sorry, export ftp_proxy="1.2.3.4:8080" |
| 17:35.31 | amorphix | asg: TX packets = 320 Errors = 180 |
| 17:35.38 | pro | but it just gives errors |
| 17:35.42 | asg | amorphix: that's bad. |
| 17:35.46 | amorphix | :-( |
| 17:35.52 | asg | amorphix: I'd try another cable |
| 17:35.52 | amorphix | my nic has died? |
| 17:35.57 | amorphix | sheesh |
| 17:35.58 | nix | pro: shouldht there be http:// in front of that 1.2.3.4 |
| 17:36.06 | PerfDave | davut: Why do you want to compile instead of using the Debian-povided packages? |
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| 17:36.09 | amorphix | i will move the workstation in here and try another cable then |
| 17:36.14 | amorphix | just to be sure |
| 17:36.14 | asg | amorphix: nic or cable. Check your router/switch to see if it is showing errors also |
| 17:36.17 | claudia | oolaaaaaaaaa a todos |
| 17:36.20 | davut | PerfDave, I wanna install postgresql 8.0 |
| 17:36.23 | amorphix | ok |
| 17:36.30 | davut | and I am using stable |
| 17:36.38 | smagy2 | davut: it would be the same line as deb in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:36.51 | PerfDave | davut: Then hand-compile it in /usr/local or backport the version from testing / unstable. |
| 17:36.52 | davut | smacnay, can u paste it please |
| 17:36.53 | abrotman | !info postgresql8 sid |
| 17:36.59 | abrotman | !tell davut about u |
| 17:37.33 | abrotman | !info postgresql-8.0 |
| 17:37.38 | dpkg | postgresql-8.0: (object-relational SQL database, version 8.0 server), section misc, is optional. Version: 8.0.4-1 (sid), Packaged size: 3884 kB, Installed size: 11608 kB |
| 17:37.42 | davut | !info postgresql-8.0 |
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| 17:38.07 | abrotman | what .. mine wasn't good enough ? |
| 17:38.14 | davut | abrotman, what should I add to the sources.list |
| 17:38.17 | claudia | hello!!!!! |
| 17:38.20 | Jon | some things are worth repeating. |
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| 17:38.27 | abrotman | davut: are you using stable |
| 17:38.27 | abrotman | ? |
| 17:38.30 | davut | yes |
| 17:38.39 | abrotman | davut: and why do you want pgsql8? |
| 17:38.52 | davut | its irrational |
| 17:39.03 | davut | I am setting it up for my friend |
| 17:39.08 | abrotman | so you want me to help you mess up your box for no good reason ? |
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| 17:39.11 | PerfDave | davut: Either hand-compile it in /usr/local or backport it |
| 17:39.14 | davut | and he says I just want postgresql-8.0 |
| 17:39.34 | abrotman | davut: ask him why .. if he can't answer you .. then don't screw up his box doing it |
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| 17:39.48 | davut | he finds 7.4.7 old |
| 17:39.57 | abrotman | funny .. afaik .. it was released a few weeks ago |
| 17:40.06 | davut | 7.4.7? |
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| 17:40.08 | davut | sure? |
| 17:40.10 | abrotman | err ... |
| 17:40.11 | abrotman | nope .. |
| 17:40.19 | abrotman | that was 7.4.9 |
| 17:40.19 | abrotman | :) |
| 17:40.27 | davut | :) |
| 17:40.39 | wam | What would be the right channel to ask these questions: How can I see, if a given IP-Address is connected to a IRC-Network? Is it possible to get a copy of all IRC-Traffic (maybe except PM)? |
| 17:40.42 | abrotman | old has nothing to do with it .. |
| 17:40.49 | nix | davut: if it aint broken...! |
| 17:40.58 | abrotman | davut: if he's not going to use the features that 8 adds .. then there's no good reason to use it .. |
| 17:41.04 | abrotman | especailly if it's a server |
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| 17:41.24 | davut | he uses it for development platform something like that |
| 17:41.29 | ritalin | "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word meaning "I can't configure Debian" |
| 17:41.32 | pro | wam, that is against the law in many places |
| 17:41.40 | pipeline | ritalin: ahahahah |
| 17:41.40 | ritalin | thought you guys might wanna add that too the topic |
| 17:41.43 | Sir_LeChucK | abrotman: i don;t know what to do... if i apt-get install the kernel-image-2.6 it works perfect.. if i compile it my own using the same config then that happens... any idea ? |
| 17:41.43 | nix | rofl |
| 17:41.44 | abrotman | davut: development of what? |
| 17:41.45 | wam | pro: so what? |
| 17:41.53 | SimonRaven | @lart ritalin |
| 17:41.53 | abrotman | ritalin: are you done ? |
| 17:41.57 | davut | a java servlet |
| 17:42.01 | ritalin | yes |
| 17:42.02 | fbi | ritalin: many users learn about Debian and it's package management by starting off with Ubuntu. |
| 17:42.10 | davut | and tomcat |
| 17:42.19 | abrotman | Sir_LeChucK: then use the one debian provides |
| 17:42.24 | nix | all roads lead to debian |
| 17:42.25 | ritalin | I dont use either, i just heard that today and thought it was really funny |
| 17:42.25 | pro | wam, so i would love you to do that to me, i would 0wnz yr ass |
| 17:42.35 | fbi | ritalin: it's not. |
| 17:42.41 | abrotman | davut: let him try the stuff that's in Sarge .. if he really complains .. we can help you mess up the machine |
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| 17:42.46 | ritalin | FreeBSD here |
| 17:42.49 | wam | pro: do what to you? |
| 17:42.54 | davut | ok |
| 17:42.55 | ritalin | o well, see ya later! |
| 17:42.56 | abrotman | which would explain the nick |
| 17:42.58 | davut | but |
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| 17:43.01 | Sir_LeChucK | abrotman: but i want to build my own debian's has way too many modules that i won't use |
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| 17:43.03 | abrotman | davut: BUT?!?! |
| 17:43.11 | davut | he says if I cant set up postgresql 8.0 |
| 17:43.13 | syntaxx | asg, i read backports.org adding in sources.list is it really a package ... ? |
| 17:43.13 | abrotman | Sir_LeChucK: is your machine slower than a P100 ? |
| 17:43.18 | sussudio | wam: he would take posession of your buttocks. |
| 17:43.21 | davut | he will return to fedora |
| 17:43.24 | PerfDave | Sir_LeChucK: It doesn't matter. If you don't use the modules, they don't get loaded. That's the point of modules. |
| 17:43.32 | abrotman | davut: your friend is a big cry baby |
| 17:43.36 | davut | :))) |
| 17:43.37 | abrotman | !tell davut about sarge->etch |
| 17:43.38 | PerfDave | davut: We've already told you how to run 8.0 on stable. |
| 17:43.44 | abrotman | davut: and when it dies .. tell him he should blame himself |
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| 17:43.53 | abrotman | davut: and if it's for a server .. he won't have security updates |
| 17:43.53 | lxIT | hello |
| 17:43.59 | SimonRaven | your friend also doesn't know that postgres 8 is in debian, too |
| 17:44.05 | loxley | guys, i am having a little problem here.. i cant seem to start a program like torsmo with fluxbox & rox-filer integrated. any ideas? |
| 17:44.11 | abrotman | i vote his friend is a tard |
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| 17:44.37 | abrotman | just wait til he has to install java ... |
| 17:44.38 | pro | davut, great, put him on fedora, 1 less n00d to answer, and 1 extra server to install my fserv's on to 8) |
| 17:44.40 | davut | no he' a very good coder but he is not good at linux |
| 17:44.43 | SimonRaven | "ohnoz, i dunno how to use a text editor, so i dunno how to configure it!!!11!1" |
| 17:44.48 | lxIT | just screwed up my debian-install by editing my /etc/inittab (changed getty into fgetty) |
| 17:45.02 | abrotman | davut: he can't be that smart |
| 17:45.11 | pro | yeah, im just kidding |
| 17:45.12 | fbi | loxley: torsmo works just fine on fluxbox, i have no idea what 'rox-filer' is. |
| 17:45.15 | davut | abrotman, he's exteremely smart |
| 17:45.21 | abrotman | davut: apparently not |
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| 17:45.26 | lxIT | get some error after killall getty > "could not chown/chmod tty device" |
| 17:45.34 | PerfDave | I don't see why davut is whinging about his friend. We've already told him how to install Postgres 8.0 on stable, after all. |
| 17:45.35 | davut | he just doesnt know the things |
| 17:45.38 | SimonRaven | fbi: 'file manager' a la mc+ gtk2 |
| 17:45.42 | fbi | ah. |
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| 17:45.48 | SimonRaven | fbi: er, mc+gtk2 |
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| 17:45.49 | davut | PerfDave, :)) |
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| 17:45.54 | goccia | smart ? so is a fashio thing this postgres 8 ? |
| 17:45.55 | pro | anyway, got work to do |
| 17:45.58 | goccia | fashion* |
| 17:46.03 | davut | I will go throgh a manual compile |
| 17:46.04 | abrotman | PerfDave: i told him how to fuck up his box with etch .. :) |
| 17:46.13 | loxley | fbi: yeah i got that part working.. but then i wanted to use rox-filer also.. problem is i cant see torsmo, seems it forked in the background |
| 17:46.15 | syntaxx | asg, deb http://www.uk.backports.org/debian stable package ... < it says 404 not found is it really package ... |
| 17:46.21 | PerfDave | davut: /msg dpkg backport |
| 17:46.22 | abrotman | davut: has he complained about the lack of tomcat5 in sarge ? |
| 17:46.23 | PerfDave | davut: /msg dpkg usrlocal |
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| 17:46.34 | SimonRaven | goccia: no, actual improvements. i'm still on 7.4 |
| 17:46.43 | nvz | oh well this means a lot more work for me if this modem situation is true. I was counting on being able to use the internet to automate things :-/ |
| 17:46.55 | muhoo | what's a good IRC channel/network for PC hardware questions? |
| 17:46.57 | goccia | SimonRaven: i know you are not smart :) |
| 17:47.00 | abrotman | goccia: there are improvements .. but most people don't know what they are |
| 17:47.01 | fbi | loxley: *shrug* i rarely use X these days, eye candy is not important to me |
| 17:47.03 | abrotman | muhoo: #hardware |
| 17:47.10 | abrotman | goccia: like davut's friend ... |
| 17:47.12 | muhoo | abrotman: on OPN? |
| 17:47.12 | davut | abrotman, yes :) |
| 17:47.20 | muhoo | em, freenode? |
| 17:47.29 | SimonRaven | goccia: eh? |
| 17:47.31 | abrotman | muhoo: /join #hardware |
| 17:47.36 | loxley | fbi: :) hehe.. well, i like watching a movie now and then :) |
| 17:47.39 | goccia | abrotman: i stay with sarge for sure : improved my life so much :) |
| 17:47.47 | goccia | SimonRaven: :))))))))) |
| 17:47.56 | amorphix | hi |
| 17:48.04 | SimonRaven | i use x, i'm even in gnome, but i still use xterm 80% of the time or more. go figure |
| 17:48.06 | abrotman | SimonRaven: it dosn't help when you go "eh?" in cannuck fashion :) |
| 17:48.12 | fbi | loxley: i have a 50 inch sony lcd in my living room, watching dvds on my pc is a joke. |
| 17:48.17 | pipeline | SimonRaven: Heh, if you have font AA turned off, gnome-terminal is actually much faster than xterm. |
| 17:48.17 | SimonRaven | abrotman: bah |
| 17:48.23 | fbi | same with gaming, i don't even bother with pc gaming |
| 17:48.25 | pipeline | SimonRaven: Ever taken a look at the xterm source? It's a horrifying monster |
| 17:48.26 | PerfDave | fbi: DVI out? :) |
| 17:48.27 | goccia | SimonRaven: do you know i feed a bird raven alike every day with cheese ? i love ravenbird :) |
| 17:48.39 | abrotman | davut: i'm still voting your friend is a tard :) |
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| 17:48.47 | fbi | PerfDave: my graphics card doesn't support that! |
| 17:48.48 | SimonRaven | pipeline: once upon a time. yes it's a mess. |
| 17:48.55 | SimonRaven | goccia: :) |
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| 17:48.58 | goccia | there are three of them coming up now |
| 17:49.06 | goccia | real ones |
| 17:49.09 | SimonRaven | nice |
| 17:49.15 | smagy2 | pipeline: what is AA ? |
| 17:49.22 | SimonRaven | anti-aliasing |
| 17:49.24 | abrotman | Alcoholics Anonymous |
| 17:49.27 | goccia | they love cheese |
| 17:49.29 | pipeline | smagy2: Anti-aliasing. It's what makes your fonts look reasonable. |
| 17:49.31 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 17:49.34 | loxley | fbi: yeah well i'd go for a projector next time, then i *might* give up X |
| 17:49.47 | amorphix | asg: i tried to test the cable, I think it could well be faulty doesnt work with my laptop. but strangely, when i switch cables, my nic on my laptop reverts to earlier interface ip/settings, why is it? |
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| 17:50.20 | SimonRaven | pipeline: though g-t is pretty bad on the terminal stuff, though not as bad as konsole. that's a beast i stay away from |
| 17:50.27 | fbi | loxley: i didn't really give up X, i've slowly learned how to live without it. there are some things that X just makes easier |
| 17:50.36 | pipeline | fbi: If by "some things" you mean "everything" |
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| 17:51.02 | PerfDave | I use X for konsole, xmms, Firefox, Thunderbird, Akregator, Konversation and Psi. I could do without them but they make my life easier :) |
| 17:51.04 | abrotman | davut: though .. at least he's using pgsql an dnot mysql |
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| 17:51.06 | fbi | pipeline: i guess, doesn't that depend on the purpose of your system? |
| 17:51.09 | pipeline | fbi: No. |
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| 17:51.14 | goccia | SimonRaven: i called one galileo and his wife fedora cause i hate the way she does "craaa craaa" |
| 17:51.16 | pipeline | fbi: X is always easier to deal with than the console. |
| 17:51.24 | granden | Is there any repo with cedega in it with a pretty new version? |
| 17:51.25 | fbi | pipeline: so if you were to run sarge as a dns server you would install X too? |
| 17:51.28 | PerfDave | pipeline: I disagree witht hat :) |
| 17:51.31 | asg | amorphix: depends what's in your laptop's /etc/network/interfaces file and whether you are using dhcp or not most likely. |
| 17:51.41 | pipeline | fbi: Yeah, I've done just that. |
| 17:51.50 | asg | ewww, X on a dns server |
| 17:51.52 | pipeline | fbi: X over ssh is much preferred to the 9600 bps serial console. |
| 17:51.52 | fbi | pipeline: different strokes for different folks. |
| 17:51.55 | SimonRaven | goccia: i like that caw caw. i even do a decent imitation of it ;) |
| 17:52.01 | Frem | Is there some sort of problem with bittorrent on sarge? whenever I try to use it, I get nothing but errors: http://pastebin.com/404253 |
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| 17:52.39 | pipeline | PerfDave: What? Trading a few hundred M of disk space for tons of convenience. It's a Good Thing. ssh -X: learn it, love it :P |
| 17:53.16 | PerfDave | pipeline: I fail to see how running X apps on a DNS server help you administer that server. |
| 17:53.36 | asg | vi /etc/bind/* ; rndc reload |
| 17:53.40 | amorphix | asg: I'm not using dhcp, and have just 1 entry in interfaces with no reference to my old ip of 192.168.0.7, however i kept a backup of interfaces (interfaces.bak) in network folder |
| 17:54.00 | PerfDave | pipeline: It's also worth noting that the serial line will help you deal with boot problems (and possibly even BIOS problems); it's old tech but damn useful. |
| 17:54.01 | asg | amorphix: were you using dhcp previously? |
| 17:54.09 | amorphix | yeah |
| 17:54.09 | Alkimik | Has anyone installed java plugin for opera 8.5 on etch? |
| 17:54.16 | pipeline | PerfDave: Well, you can't very well do /without/ the console, but I always, always prefer not to use it when I can. |
| 17:54.17 | amorphix | not on this machine tho |
| 17:54.17 | rossi | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686_2.6.12-10_i386.deb are there the kernel modules included? |
| 17:54.24 | asg | amorphix: if you didn't kill the dhcp client, it would reconfigure your interface |
| 17:54.31 | amorphix | oh i see |
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| 17:54.44 | pipeline | PerfDave: What's really fun is my home gateway, whose serial port and VGA are shot. If it conks out, I'll just toss the damn thing in the trash. |
| 17:55.03 | PerfDave | pipeline: So how do you use X to administer a DNS server more easily than the console? |
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| 17:55.18 | Frem | Alkimik: I've installed it on Sarge. |
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| 17:55.23 | pipeline | PerfDave: uh... I don't mean running an X /server/. I mean the convenience of having X clients available. |
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| 17:55.42 | SimonRaven | PerfDave: dunno, i just use ssh and vim, and sometimes ldapmodify/add/whatever |
| 17:55.43 | PerfDave | pipeline: What X clients are useful for administering DNS servers? |
| 17:56.00 | pipeline | PerfDave: xterm, smc (although I suppose that's not a Sarge thing :P) |
| 17:56.02 | PerfDave | SimonRaven: Yes, I'm trying to work out why pipeline likes installing X clients on DNS servers |
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| 17:56.31 | SimonRaven | eh, whatever, his network |
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| 17:56.56 | PerfDave | pipeline: So you load up an xterm on your desktop, ssh -X to your DNS server, and then run an xterm from that DNS server? Why not just run a local xterm and ssh, since you have to do that anyway? |
| 17:57.44 | pipeline | PerfDave: Nah, I just have a shortcut that ssh -X's with a subshell so that I don't have to pay that much attention. |
| 17:58.14 | PerfDave | pipeline: I'm still failing to see how this is in any way useful or more convenient :) |
| 17:58.17 | Alkimik | Frem; Did you have anything like openmotif .deb offered on their site having dependency problems because xlib6g is missing? |
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| 17:58.57 | Daffy-PKF | am i blind? i can't find the PostScript printer driver for Windows on cups website |
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| 17:59.10 | Daffy-PKF | does someone know where to get it? |
| 17:59.36 | dli | pipeline, you "ssh -X" to that dns server? |
| 17:59.45 | pipeline | dli: Yes :P |
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| 18:02.28 | Alkimik | Ahh... Nevermind... It just started working for some asshat reason >.> |
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| 18:04.27 | ^Duffy^ | ok, I have a group called "schizo" how can add this group to alot users? (command line) |
| 18:04.33 | goccia | Alkimik is that for opera browser ? |
| 18:04.33 | reuq | I have these two files in my home directory that i have no idea how they got there or what they are (they're binary files) one is called pattern-right.bin and pattern-wrong.bin |
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| 18:04.40 | reuq | how can i find their history? |
| 18:05.27 | abrotman | stat ? |
| 18:05.34 | abrotman | erm .. is that the command ? |
| 18:05.42 | asg | amorphix: yes |
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| 18:05.49 | asg | erm abrotman yes |
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| 18:05.58 | Firemx | Do anybody needs a low price webhosting package with a domeinname all that fot 20 euro if you are intrested then you can join #webhostingstyle.com i will see you there |
| 18:05.58 | tarzeau | either mass production is bad, or the distribution of goods |
| 18:06.02 | scummgle | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 18:06.29 | syntaxx | asg, conky is in testing but it says depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is to be installed im afraid to install it last time i think libc6 my system goes unstable do you think it safe? :D |
| 18:06.40 | tarzeau | Firemx: 20 euro one time for 50 years? |
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| 18:06.48 | goccia | Alkimik: hold on |
| 18:06.52 | reuq | how do you attach a current xscreen to vnc? |
| 18:06.56 | asg | syntaxx: you'll have to backport it yourself (/msg dpkg simple sid backport) |
| 18:07.00 | Frem | goccia: You can use Mozilla plugins in Opera; simply system link them from the Mozilla plugin dir to the Opera plugin dir. |
| 18:07.02 | goccia | Alkimik: i think you need libxaw6 |
| 18:07.03 | Firemx | no |
| 18:07.08 | Firemx | for 1 year |
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| 18:07.23 | tarzeau | Firemx: what about bandwith and limits of total traffic? |
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| 18:07.46 | syntaxx | asg, yeah i already backport though but the problem i have when apt-get update is 404 file not found stable package ... is it really the last word? package ...? |
| 18:07.49 | asg | karontedebian: don't irc as root, create a regular user and irc from that account |
| 18:07.52 | tarzeau | Firemx: what country is it hosted (i'm asking because of laws of illegal publications) |
| 18:07.53 | Firemx | 5 gb datatrafic a month |
| 18:07.58 | Daffy-PKF | please, does someone know where to find the cups-samba thing? |
| 18:08.06 | Firemx | 200 mb webspace |
| 18:08.10 | asg | syntaxx: I mean build your own backport, not download the one from backports.org |
| 18:08.15 | fbi | syntaxx: conky is not in the stable branch. hence the term 'backport' |
| 18:08.15 | goccia | Frem: i tried today opera 9 on 8.5 but i do prefere old buggy firefox |
| 18:08.21 | Daffy-PKF | i can't even find it on cups website |
| 18:08.28 | Firemx | in The netherlands |
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| 18:08.31 | Firemx | Amsterdam |
| 18:08.50 | syntaxx | asg, oh ok |
| 18:08.57 | goccia | anyway dependencies on openmotif need libxaw6 |
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| 18:09.31 | Firemx | if anybody is intrested please join #webhostingstyle.com |
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| 18:09.59 | asg | Firemx: advertising is not allowed in here, please take it elsewhere |
| 18:10.06 | goccia | just to say again sarge runs everything . no prob |
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| 18:10.28 | Firemx | asg you are no OP |
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| 18:10.34 | Firemx | shutup |
| 18:10.36 | tarzeau | Firemx: ok, don't repeat please. it's very well possible that nobody is interested in here |
| 18:10.36 | Firemx | :) |
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| 18:10.51 | Firemx | i don't repeat |
| 18:10.54 | asg | !ops Firemx advertising |
| 18:10.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Firemx advertising |
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| 18:11.05 | dusk | ls |
| 18:11.09 | dusk | oops |
| 18:11.10 | asg | no files found |
| 18:11.29 | dusk | hey, i just installed xfs and now when i try to change fonts in the gimp, the program just shuts down |
| 18:11.39 | EmleyMoor | Any reason why my testing box thinks I have untrusted sources for packages? |
| 18:11.47 | asg | EmleyMoor: /msg dpkg apt secure |
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| 18:12.03 | dr1v3r | guys how many nameservers should there be in resolve.conf? |
| 18:12.16 | dr1v3r | i have 7 IP's all start with 72.20 but my nameserver is 72.20.7.5 is that correct? or should i have more than one nameserver |
| 18:12.17 | asg | dr1v3r: 1 to 3 |
| 18:12.46 | syntaxx | asg, i have no idea how to use backports hehe.. |
| 18:12.46 | dr1v3r | so onenameserver is fine then althought i have 7 ips on the box? |
| 18:12.48 | tarzeau | dr1v3r: no that's fine |
| 18:12.48 | asg | dr1v3r: only put nameservers in there, though, nothing else |
| 18:12.53 | dr1v3r | wicked |
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| 18:12.55 | asg | !tell syntaxx about simple sid backport |
| 18:12.56 | dr1v3r | thank you very much :d |
| 18:12.57 | Zap-W | hi , what's kicking |
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| 18:13.19 | tarzeau | Zap-W: if you press ctrl-d in nethack |
| 18:13.20 | dr1v3r | its ok i am not going to be touching it haha |
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| 18:13.24 | dr1v3r | i just had to make sure |
| 18:13.27 | EmleyMoor | Someone should kick Zap-W forf a |
| 18:13.29 | EmleyMoor | Someone should kick Zap-W for |
| 18:13.32 | EmleyMoor | Someone should kick Zap-W for asking that |
| 18:13.32 | dr1v3r | ok thank you guys i appreciate it |
| 18:13.37 | EmleyMoor | Damned keyboard |
| 18:13.52 | Zap-W | tarzeau: and in screen ? |
| 18:13.53 | dusk | hey, i just installed xfs and now when i try to change fonts in the gimp, the program just shuts down |
| 18:13.58 | Mrdini | yo all |
| 18:14.03 | Zap-W | ctrl+a+d |
| 18:14.12 | tarzeau | Zap-W: no, just ctrl-d |
| 18:14.19 | syntaxx | asg, yeah ive already read that but im having problems with sources.list line like dpkg told me 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list |
| 18:14.20 | tarzeau | Zap-W: since ctrl-d is nothing special in screen |
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| 18:14.27 | tarzeau | Zap-W: ctrl-d in a shell is usually to close it |
| 18:14.29 | Mrdini | what's the maximum length for passwords in Debian? I've looked & can't seemt o find a defintive number |
| 18:14.36 | davut | hi |
| 18:14.37 | Mrdini | (user account passwords) |
| 18:14.38 | elirips | hello. can someone please tell me how i can see what kernel i am running currently? |
| 18:14.43 | Zap-W | tarzeau: je ces |
| 18:14.46 | tarzeau | apropos ctrl-d , how can i get that character as ascii displayed, the diamond? |
| 18:14.48 | davut | I added the deb-src line for unstable |
| 18:14.56 | asg | syntaxx: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 18:14.56 | tarzeau | Mrdini: there's no limit |
| 18:14.56 | abrotman | elirips: uname -a |
| 18:15.07 | davut | and now I did apt-get build-dep postgresql |
| 18:15.09 | tarzeau | Mrdini: but it won't make sense at some point. depends if you use md5 or crypt |
| 18:15.18 | Mrdini | tar, so you can have a 1MB password string in debian? :P |
| 18:15.20 | Nick_Hill | Debian sarge, USB scanner only accessible as root. Is there an obvious way to have the USB device nodes chowned by hotplug? |
| 18:15.23 | nvz | elirips: uname -r |
| 18:15.26 | tarzeau | Mrdini: man mkpasswd might be helpful and man crypt |
| 18:15.30 | davut | but when I do apt-get build-dep postgresql-8.0 portage tries to install x11 libs |
| 18:15.32 | syntaxx | asg, then follow what dpkg says right? |
| 18:15.38 | asg | syntaxx: correct |
| 18:15.44 | tarzeau | Mrdini: the string in passwd usually is not the password |
| 18:15.52 | tarzeau | Mrdini: it's just a hash, with a salt, and the type of hash |
| 18:15.59 | Mrdini | tar, hmm, looking thru mkpasswd |
| 18:16.00 | Zap-W | what does a webhosting provider mean when they say 330GB monthly transfer data transfer , what once it reaches that the site closes til next month? |
| 18:16.00 | EmleyMoor | Nick_Hill: Yes - I have seen a method to do the same for a Nokia phone that could easily be adapted |
| 18:16.10 | nvz | abrotman: as someone I've seen doing it a lot often, why do people say uname -a? its really uname -r and that could even be used in a script or something. |
| 18:16.17 | helix | Zap-W: or you pay extra |
| 18:16.19 | Mrdini | tar, oh, I know, I need to make a reg-exp to check if the password's valid that's why |
| 18:16.26 | syntaxx | asg, ok im a bit nervous my system might goes to unstable hehe thats why im asking for your help sorry to bother you :D |
| 18:16.26 | tarzeau | Mrdini: i don't remember it being a cleartext password ever. but then i'm young |
| 18:16.26 | helix | but 330gb is a lot of traffic |
| 18:16.27 | stew | Zap-W: no you start paying per GB overage charges usually |
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| 18:16.33 | tarzeau | Mrdini: huh? |
| 18:16.37 | goccia | Mrdini: /etc/pam.d/common-password |
| 18:16.44 | elirips | abrotman: thanks. what's the diffrence between uname and kernelversion? |
| 18:16.53 | asg | syntaxx: you are just adding a deb-src line (don't mess with any other lines) |
| 18:16.54 | Alkimik | goccia, tried installing it, it seems to ignore libxaw, but um... It seems to work without it anyway, so, I'll just check the checkbox to hide the dialog and not fix stuff that's not borked :D |
| 18:17.01 | Mrdini | tar, script to create an user account - need to check the password's valid before account's created |
| 18:17.02 | Zap-W | but it dosen't say the transfer rate per second |
| 18:17.05 | abrotman | elirips: huh ? |
| 18:17.07 | tarzeau | elirips: kernelversion is bullshit |
| 18:17.08 | goccia | Alkimik: it works |
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| 18:17.17 | nvz | wtf is kernelversion |
| 18:17.20 | tarzeau | Mrdini: that already exists |
| 18:17.21 | abrotman | nvz: nfc |
| 18:17.21 | asg | syntaxx: all it does is allow you to download sid sources for the package you are building under woody |
| 18:17.25 | asg | nvz: /sbin/kernelversion |
| 18:17.28 | nvz | abrotman: me either |
| 18:17.28 | Nick_Hill | EmleyMoor, This does seem a perennial problem with scanners etc, I did cofigure a system but have re-installed to clear out cruft going back to potato. I hoped there is an abvious way to do this. |
| 18:17.40 | tarzeau | nvz: a script that gives you a reason to kill whoever made it |
| 18:17.40 | abrotman | oh .. that's silly |
| 18:17.41 | helix | wow does anyone use that? |
| 18:17.41 | davut | hey |
| 18:17.42 | asg | nvz: it also has a bug in it |
| 18:17.44 | syntaxx | asg, ok ill try |
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| 18:17.45 | stew | Zap-W: ask them, its probably got a 100mb/s or a 10mb/s connection |
| 18:17.50 | Mrdini | goccia, thanks! 3 to 8 charACTERS |
| 18:17.53 | nvz | asg: not to mention being in sbin, a normal user cannnot run it |
| 18:17.55 | davut | I wanna install postgresql-8.0 |
| 18:17.55 | goccia | Alkimik: install libxaw6 and reconfigure openmotif |
| 18:17.59 | asg | nvz: OLD_IFS=IFS |
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| 18:18.05 | nvz | heh |
| 18:18.07 | davut | what should I actually write on console |
| 18:18.10 | abrotman | davut: we told you how .. more than one method .. multiple times |
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| 18:18.19 | dusk | hey, i just installed xfs and now when i try to change fonts in the gimp, the program just shuts down |
| 18:18.19 | tarzeau | nvz: to make base bigger. it wasn't big enough with woody |
| 18:18.21 | asg | nvz: I've been meaning to file a bug for years now and always forget |
| 18:18.42 | nvz | asg: yeah if I had an email address I would probably file some bugs |
| 18:18.44 | Zap-W | hmm , it says , runs on an array of cable modems capped to 512kbit |
| 18:18.44 | goccia | Mrdini: 3 to 8 ? it depends i prefere min=6 max=15 |
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| 18:18.47 | fbi | dusk: so strace it and file a bug. quit repeating that. |
| 18:19.03 | davut | abrotman, I do apt-get build-dep postgresql orapt-get build-dep postgresql-8.0 |
| 18:19.07 | Zap-W | wow 10mb i wish i had that at home |
| 18:19.10 | asg | nvz: however, it doesn't hinder usage of the script so *shrug* |
| 18:19.14 | Nick_Hill | !scanner |
| 18:19.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, scanner is a device used to copy an image from a physical source (e.g., photograph) into a computer. Also, ask me about sane |
| 18:19.26 | stew | Zap-W: ask them to be sure what kind of connection it has |
| 18:19.32 | abrotman | davut: i didn't tell you that method. . ask PerfDave |
| 18:19.33 | davut | when I do the latter it apt tries to install x1 libs |
| 18:19.35 | Mrdini | goccia, yeah, might change it |
| 18:19.39 | tarzeau | nvz: gives you 5.4-1-586 on debian gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 18:19.56 | Zap-W | my ISP charges 100$ hosting a server on they server farm with bandwidth of only 5mb/1mb |
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| 18:20.22 | nvz | tarzeau: is the 5.4 the FreeBSD release? |
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| 18:20.28 | davut | abrotman, can't u help me? |
| 18:20.32 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:20.32 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:20.33 | asg | nvz: *nod* |
| 18:20.37 | abrotman | not when you talk like that |
| 18:20.41 | tarzeau | nvz: i think so (might be slightly patched), check #gnu-kbsd |
| 18:20.44 | davut | abrotman, can't you help me? |
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| 18:21.11 | abrotman | davut: let me look |
| 18:21.25 | abrotman | davut: http://www.backports.org/pending/postgresql-8.0/ |
| 18:21.30 | nvz | tarzeau: I am going to go check all my pillows and make sure they are still soft, then I am going to conduct an experiment where I lay on them for a few hours to make sure they dont change |
| 18:21.54 | amorphix | asg: this is weird! I tried that cable and it would not work on 2 machines, couldnt ping, even tho connection seemed to be there... anyway I just plugged that cable into the modem and router and its working fine! |
| 18:21.58 | Nick_Hill | USB scanner as non-root using libusb and hotplug- How do I configure this in sarge? |
| 18:22.03 | amorphix | asg: how do you explain that? how can a cable not work for a LAN connection but work between the router and modem? |
| 18:22.12 | amorphix | asg: this is weird! I tried that cable and it would not work on 2 machines, couldnt ping, even tho connection seemed to be there... anyway I just plugged that cable into the modem and router and its working fine! |
| 18:22.15 | amorphix | asg: how do you explain that? how can a cable not work for a LAN connection but work between the router and modem? |
| 18:22.18 | asg | amorphix: you probably used a crossover |
| 18:22.18 | nvz | if I am not going to work friday I have to make sure I am there and on time all week :P |
| 18:22.38 | amorphix | ah |
| 18:22.43 | amorphix | that would only work between the router and modem? |
| 18:22.53 | tarzeau | nvz: i'm not sure what you wanted to tell me with the pillows |
| 18:22.58 | asg | amorphix: or machine and machine but not machine -> switch |
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| 18:23.15 | asg | amorphix: dunno why your router and modem are that way but that sounds like what is happening |
| 18:23.19 | nvz | I'm being well compinsated for missing work and its something I do every year, not just something I am doing on a whim |
| 18:23.21 | tarzeau | nvz: don't be mad. i don't have pillows, i didn't have/seen much of them in my life |
| 18:23.30 | majux | Need some beginner's help here.. Just installed Debian 1st time & can't set it up to use 1024 x 768 resolution. During install I configured it to use that resolution. I have a NVidia graphics card so I used (guessed really) the nv driver. The only settings on my desktop are 800 x 600 and below. Monitor is 15". |
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| 18:23.38 | asg | oooo, chocolate |
| 18:23.41 | nvz | tarzeau: they are what we lay our head on around here |
| 18:23.45 | goccia | Alkimik: xlib6g is a bunk deb , a woody one ,you'll find in google |
| 18:23.57 | syntaxx | hehe |
| 18:24.02 | tarzeau | i always felt pillows to be uncomfortable for my head |
| 18:24.03 | fbi | 1024 x 768 on a 15 inch? do you sit 2 inches away from your screen ? |
| 18:24.06 | amorphix | oh |
| 18:24.08 | nvz | tarzeau: you see we take a sack and stuff it with cotton or ideally feathers or something and then stich it shut |
| 18:24.11 | tarzeau | that's why you won't ever find one in my bed |
| 18:24.13 | majux | fbi, yes! lol |
| 18:24.20 | fbi | majux: reconfigure X. |
| 18:24.25 | tarzeau | nvz: is that soft? |
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| 18:24.40 | fbi | majux: that monitor may not even support such a high resolution |
| 18:24.56 | abrotman | fbi: interlaced!!!! |
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| 18:25.01 | majux | I've used that res with Win XP and Kanotix |
| 18:25.04 | fbi | pfffft. |
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| 18:25.08 | nvz | tarzeau: cotton pillows are alright especially if the outer material is soft too.. but ideally like a plush pillow filled with really light feathers is best |
| 18:25.15 | fbi | majux: reconfigure X. |
| 18:25.16 | abrotman | majux: which nvidia card? |
| 18:25.22 | asg | nvz: the dirty pillows are the ones that I like best |
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| 18:25.26 | nvz | I can only wish I had a plush pillow. I should go buy one |
| 18:25.27 | abrotman | majux: reconfigure X .. pick only one resolution |
| 18:25.36 | nvz | they've got to sell em somewhere |
| 18:25.37 | abrotman | nvz: get one of the girls across the street |
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| 18:25.43 | fbi | majux: /msg dpkg drx |
| 18:25.44 | majux | abrotman, Titanium 500 |
| 18:25.47 | tarzeau | nvz: i never got used to get sunk in the pillow |
| 18:25.51 | abrotman | majux: that's no help ... |
| 18:26.00 | abrotman | majux: GeForce... 4? |
| 18:26.02 | nvz | abrotman: yeah right, what makes you think your sister has a nicer pillow than I do? |
| 18:26.10 | abrotman | nvz: boobs? |
| 18:26.13 | majux | sorry Geforce III |
| 18:26.15 | tarzeau | nvz: a pillow ideal for me would be a square one out of wood, with a GNUstep logo engraved into it |
| 18:26.19 | abrotman | nvz: unless you've got big boobs ? |
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| 18:26.36 | nvz | abrotman: heh thats not a pillow but yes they are usually soft |
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| 18:26.53 | asg | tarzeau: Don't forget your Hurd nailbed |
| 18:27.12 | nvz | tarzeau: heh |
| 18:27.16 | Mrdini | goccia, yo - need double-checking..... common-password says 4-8, BUT I'm able to create users with longer passwords, & they work |
| 18:27.17 | majux | abrotman, Geforce 3 should handle the res. I've used it before but not with Debian |
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| 18:27.23 | tarzeau | asg: heh, don't like nailbeds, but i like the beds be flat and hard |
| 18:27.33 | abrotman | majux: xfree or xorg ? |
| 18:27.36 | nvz | tarzeau: you are wild. I'd rather sleep on the dirt than on a block of wood. that would give me a stiff neck |
| 18:27.38 | asg | tarzeau: agreed, I like a stiff bed. |
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| 18:27.46 | angel_ | hi |
| 18:27.56 | goccia | Mrdini: i suggest you go through debian hardening docs properly :) |
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| 18:28.03 | tarzeau | asg: not like i don't like soft things :) |
| 18:28.09 | asg | tarzeau: heh |
| 18:28.16 | Mrdini | goccia, heh, I guess |
| 18:28.17 | asg | fbi: that happens daily in -ot |
| 18:28.22 | fbi | word. |
| 18:28.29 | abrotman | many usually |
| 18:28.32 | majux | abrotman, sorry linux noob here I don't know what you mean |
| 18:28.35 | asg | abrotman: we're very international |
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| 18:28.55 | some1too | when I start gnome I get an XKB error; how can I reconfigure the XKP settings again easily? I have no backslash for instance ... |
| 18:28.58 | fbi | i would join there, but i'd end up stealing all your women. |
| 18:29.09 | asg | fbi: hehe |
| 18:29.13 | angel_ | please I've got a problem with sarge and apt-cdrom: apt-cdrom -d /media/dvd add works fine, but when I try to get a package on the DVD with apt-get it told me that mountpoint /cdrom/ is not in fstab... :( |
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| 18:29.32 | majux | abrotman, I just installed Debian that's about the extent of my knowledge of it |
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| 18:29.53 | abrotman | majux: i just told you what to do |
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| 18:30.10 | abrotman | majux: did you install sarge or etch? |
| 18:30.16 | majux | sorry i tyhink i missed it then I am looking back |
| 18:30.43 | abrotman | majux: oh .. is tarted then stopped |
| 18:30.47 | abrotman | majux: sarge or etch |
| 18:30.47 | abrotman | ? |
| 18:31.03 | abrotman | erm .. i started |
| 18:31.06 | abrotman | i'm not tarted |
| 18:31.11 | fbi | haha |
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| 18:31.15 | majux | lol |
| 18:31.21 | fbi | abortmission is we-todd-ed! |
| 18:31.25 | asg | antgel: is /media/dvd listed in /etc/fstab? if so, paste the line |
| 18:31.30 | deadcat | can someone write me a questions about the media portraying the word "hacker" please. |
| 18:31.31 | asg | antgel: sorry, my mistake |
| 18:31.32 | syntaxx | asg, next is this 4) install the resulting debs or pay someone to do it properly |
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| 18:31.44 | deadcat | a profound question. |
| 18:31.54 | asg | syntaxx: dpkg -i <foo.deb> |
| 18:32.02 | fbi | deadcat: i read that twice, and i still don't understand. |
| 18:32.05 | asg | syntaxx: if it complains about dependancies, apt-get install them first. |
| 18:32.18 | dli__ | deadcat: I got my ntp server running now |
| 18:32.27 | deadcat | dli__: what did you do? |
| 18:32.42 | dli__ | deadcat, add "disable auth" in the client ntp.conf |
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| 18:32.49 | Ireul | hi |
| 18:32.51 | Ireul | asg: yes, /dev/dvd /media/dvd ... |
| 18:33.03 | deadcat | fbi: example: atheism: what accounts for the way people are treated by the general public once they are "outed" as an atheist? |
| 18:33.10 | deadcat | fbi: in this kind of format. |
| 18:33.21 | dli__ | deadcat, and, wait long for the server ntp to get proper sync. Must be patient |
| 18:33.43 | deadcat | dli__: ah. so it worked. hahaha |
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| 18:33.51 | asg | Ireul: hmmm, does /cdrom exist as a symlink to /media/dvd? |
| 18:33.52 | Blue-Omega | hello, where can i find debian's mirror list to my sources.list file? |
| 18:34.05 | syntaxx | asg, whew it doesnt look for dep but it says Conky: can't open '/sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0043/temp1_input': No such file or directory please fix i2c or remove it from Conky |
| 18:34.05 | asg | Blue-Omega: apt-setup, /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 18:34.08 | dli__ | deadcat, and, restrict the clients with "nomodify" in the server ntp.conf |
| 18:34.09 | deadcat | dli__: patient and time.. weird match. |
| 18:34.21 | fbi | syntaxx: kernel version please |
| 18:34.23 | deadcat | dli__: oh ofcourse |
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| 18:34.39 | syntaxx | fbi, stock 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 18:34.42 | deadcat | fbi: you helping me out or gave up already? |
| 18:34.44 | asg | fbi: he's compiling a backport from sid on sarge (which succeeded) |
| 18:34.46 | dli__ | deadcat, several small error, but almost looked like impossible for a n00b |
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| 18:34.46 | fbi | syntaxx: install i2c |
| 18:35.03 | fbi | asg: yeah, but i don't think the 2.4 kernels support i2c without a patch |
| 18:35.18 | abrotman | eat more chicken! |
| 18:35.18 | some1too | asg, there's a problem with my keyboard layout? I can not select a backslash for instance (.de layout) and my gnome tells me upon startup that it cant activate XKB configuration |
| 18:35.35 | syntaxx | fbi, how to install i2c? |
| 18:35.37 | asg | some1too: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 18:35.47 | fbi | syntaxx: apt-cache search i2c |
| 18:36.05 | syntaxx | fbi, yeah but which one? :D |
| 18:36.13 | majux | abrotman, i am using sarge |
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| 18:36.17 | fbi | syntaxx: do you want me to come over and install it for you? |
| 18:36.30 | deadcat | fbi: forget him. help me |
| 18:36.38 | abrotman | majux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 .. select ONE resolution |
| 18:36.42 | syntaxx | fbi, nah.. it just output a lot of i2c |
| 18:36.56 | fbi | syntaxx: so read the i2c documentation. |
| 18:36.59 | stew | syntaxx: /sbin/modprobe -l | grep i2c ; figure out which one is for the device you are trying to use, modprobe it |
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| 18:37.17 | majux | abrotman, thanks, will try that |
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| 18:37.28 | dli__ | some1too, not sure, but maybe, ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbcomp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp |
| 18:37.29 | Lynoure | Hello |
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| 18:38.09 | amorphix | hi |
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| 18:38.25 | amorphix | can someone do me a favour and hit this page for me and tell me how quick/slow it is to load? Im having complaints my server is slow |
| 18:38.33 | Lynoure | Does anyone of you have a recommendation for a webcam? Logitech Quickcam Express II seems to give awfully yellow image and does not respoend well to settings, so I was hoping someone would have thought about a good alternative |
| 18:38.33 | fbi | deadcat: what am i helping you with, exactly? |
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| 18:38.36 | amorphix | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.36 | Roey | hello |
| 18:38.38 | valdyn | !drxx some1too |
| 18:38.39 | dpkg | some1too: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:39.04 | Roey | I've installed 'ant' under Debian SID and am trying to compile WebScarab. I get: Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/j2re1.4-sun/lib/tools.jar |
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| 18:39.06 | Zap-W | amorphix: lol wtf |
| 18:39.07 | scummgle | what package is kde headers in? |
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| 18:39.11 | Roey | what's wrong with it/ |
| 18:39.12 | Roey | ? |
| 18:39.12 | Zap-W | amorphix: what a boring hobby |
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| 18:39.35 | valdyn | scummgle: try installing 'kde-devel' |
| 18:39.37 | amorphix | Zap-W: did the page load reasonably quick? |
| 18:39.48 | scummgle | valdyn thx |
| 18:39.51 | stew | amorphix: its very very slow, still loading for me |
| 18:39.53 | Lynoure | amorphix: Slow response, slow load, not timing it... but minutes rather than seconds |
| 18:39.55 | amorphix | damn |
| 18:39.55 | sh4dowcat | Roey: first off it's sid |
| 18:39.58 | asg | amorphix: it's slow (mostly downloading the images) |
| 18:40.05 | Roey | sh4dowcat: yes, but past that |
| 18:40.06 | amorphix | phew |
| 18:40.09 | Bac9 | I can get a grub diskette to boot fine in qemu, but on real hardware it gives "GRUB GRUB GRUB " ad infinitum, can someone help? (yes I tried #grub, noone there answers) |
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| 18:40.19 | Roey | amorphix: hi, I saw you got on this chan finally |
| 18:40.20 | sh4dowcat | secondly, did you install a jre/jdt? |
| 18:40.21 | Roey | :) |
| 18:40.21 | amorphix | my network is screwed up since i switched to a switch router today |
| 18:40.24 | amorphix | how can this be |
| 18:40.26 | Roey | sh4dowcat: I think I did |
| 18:40.32 | sh4dowcat | you think you did? |
| 18:40.35 | amorphix | Roey: hi |
| 18:40.37 | Roey | sh4dowcat: I can run java fine |
| 18:40.40 | asg | amorphix: how much ISP bandwidth do you have? |
| 18:40.43 | Roey | sh4dowcat: :) |
| 18:40.50 | Roey | sh4dowcat: 'java' works and 'javac' works, too,. |
| 18:40.52 | sh4dowcat | ok well find out if the file's really there |
| 18:40.58 | Roey | sh4dowcat: ok |
| 18:41.01 | Zap-W | amorphix: very slow |
| 18:41.04 | amorphix | asg: 1mb, but up until today my server has always run pretty good |
| 18:41.10 | sh4dowcat | you needed to go on IRC for someone to tell you that |
| 18:41.21 | EmleyMoor | Presumably, when apt-secure comes to stable, it will be reasonably automated getting it working |
| 18:41.22 | amorphix | why would changing to a router slow things down?? surely it should make it faster |
| 18:41.28 | Roey | sh4dowcat: the directory is there but tools.jar is not. |
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| 18:41.34 | Zap-W | amorphix: you are hosting this privatly? |
| 18:41.36 | asg | amorphix: then you have either a duplex mismatch between router and modem or router/switch and machines |
| 18:41.39 | sh4dowcat | Roey: well then get it |
| 18:41.45 | amorphix | asg: oh |
| 18:41.46 | sh4dowcat | figure out who hosts the file and download it |
| 18:41.57 | sh4dowcat | put it there and get on with it |
| 18:41.59 | asg | amorphix: verify the nic and router match (don't trust auto-negotiation; make sure for yourself) |
| 18:42.08 | Roey | sh4dowcat: ok thanks |
| 18:42.11 | Zap-W | amorphix: how quickly does this site load http://catatau.homeip.net |
| 18:42.19 | Zap-W | i am hosting it on a 512k cable connection |
| 18:42.19 | amorphix | asg: how would you do that? |
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| 18:42.32 | sh4dowcat | Zap-W: your connection speed blows :P |
| 18:42.34 | asg | amorphix: ethtool |
| 18:42.36 | sh4dowcat | other than that it loads fine |
| 18:42.39 | Zap-W | sh4dowcat: :( |
| 18:42.48 | amorphix | asg: thanks |
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| 18:43.04 | Zap-W | sh4dowcat: it's better than my 96k *2 load balancing i was doing before |
| 18:43.12 | amorphix | Zap-W: it's pretty quick, only 10 secs |
| 18:43.24 | Zap-W | 10 secs is alot |
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| 18:43.29 | sh4dowcat | oh get over it |
| 18:43.29 | Lynoure | I guess webcams are untrendy :) |
| 18:43.41 | amorphix | well for a home hosted box its not bad |
| 18:44.02 | sh4dowcat | Lynoure: webcams are only trendy if it's a live feed it seems |
| 18:44.26 | Lynoure | sh4dowcat: I'm trying to find one that works nicely in debian. Any recommendations? |
| 18:44.35 | amorphix | asg: why do some nics not worth with ethtool and require miitool? |
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| 18:44.40 | amorphix | *worth = work |
| 18:44.41 | a1fa | yo |
| 18:44.54 | asg | amorphix: chipset differences |
| 18:44.54 | sh4dowcat | Lynoure: no clue |
| 18:44.54 | Zap-W | also using SQF to limit the upload dosen't hurt either , improves response time |
| 18:44.58 | amorphix | oh |
| 18:45.10 | Lynoure | sh4dowcat: Pity, but thanks :) |
| 18:45.16 | asg | amorphix: one other thing, you aren't using 4M jpegs and using HTML to make them smaller by chance are you? |
| 18:45.23 | davut | abrotman, what should I do with this pending link in backports.org |
| 18:45.40 | abrotman | davut: don't make me smack you :) |
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| 18:45.57 | davut | abrotman, I dont use debian normally |
| 18:45.57 | goccia | engaged ? |
| 18:46.00 | abrotman | http://backports.org/installation.html |
| 18:46.01 | a1fa | i got a problem with XFree86 -scanpci... i get no output |
| 18:46.03 | davut | I am a gentoo user |
| 18:46.04 | a1fa | ~scanpci |
| 18:46.35 | HellKat | What is the key combination to bring my computer back to a normal resolution (like control+alt+ + or something) ? |
| 18:46.50 | abrotman | define non-normal resolution |
| 18:47.03 | _daniel_ | Anyone know a debian repo that has lyx in version 1.3.4(testing) |
| 18:47.06 | a1fa | ctrl+alt+ +/- |
| 18:47.13 | HellKat | I was in a game that crashed, now my 'screen' is larger than it should be |
| 18:47.21 | HellKat | and I cant see all of it |
| 18:47.24 | asg | !info lynx testing |
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| 18:47.26 | a1fa | HellKat : ctrl+alt+ +/- |
| 18:47.27 | HellKat | thats not working |
| 18:47.27 | abrotman | HellKat: in what WM ? |
| 18:47.32 | HellKat | gnome2 |
| 18:47.32 | dpkg | lynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (etch), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB |
| 18:47.44 | asg | !info lyx testing |
| 18:47.44 | _daniel_ | lyx not lynx |
| 18:47.46 | abrotman | HellKat: go to the top .. and in on eo fhte menus is a screen resoution applet |
| 18:47.50 | amorphix | asg: my server nic is showing as 100mbs+full duplex with auto-neg on |
| 18:47.57 | a1fa | does anybody get output from running XFree86 -scanpci? |
| 18:48.00 | sh4dowcat | _daniel_: just add testing to your sources |
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| 18:48.03 | sh4dowcat | problem solved |
| 18:48.06 | HellKat | thats not working either, im already in 1240x1024 |
| 18:48.07 | amorphix | asg: how do we verify the router to modem connection? |
| 18:48.08 | asg | amorphix: is your switch also 100M Full? |
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| 18:48.20 | amorphix | asg: It supports it, but i dunno how to verify it |
| 18:48.30 | asg | amorphix: depends on the router, check the manual. |
| 18:48.31 | HellKat | ok |
| 18:48.34 | HellKat | thanks :) |
| 18:48.34 | amorphix | ok |
| 18:48.52 | a1fa | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.10 | abrotman | a1fa: why? |
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| 18:49.49 | a1fa | abrotman : i dont get any output |
| 18:49.56 | _daniel_ | sh4dowcat, I did, I cant find it :( |
| 18:49.56 | a1fa | it suppposed to do same thing lspci does |
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| 18:50.11 | goccia | why testing for a 1.3.4 ? sarge lyx is 1.3.4-2 |
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| 18:50.34 | abrotman | a1fa: why do you care? |
| 18:50.37 | asg | goccia: who knows, I'm still trying to figure out what he's on about |
| 18:50.45 | _daniel_ | I can only see lyx when I use unstable |
| 18:50.55 | python | my Boss at work seems to think open source stiffles innovation :-( |
| 18:50.59 | goccia | asg: signe of the times :) |
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| 18:51.01 | _daniel_ | And I am moving to testing since unstable is very broken |
| 18:51.03 | goccia | sign* |
| 18:51.04 | asg | goccia: :) |
| 18:51.04 | bram | is it ok to ask newbie questions in here? |
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| 18:51.07 | Cillian_Debian | Is it possible to get 3d accelleration working on a radeon 9600 without the binary drivers? |
| 18:51.08 | tarzeau | who was looking for something that lists fonts this day around six hours ago? |
| 18:51.10 | asg | _daniel_: /msg dpkg why is lyx not in testing |
| 18:51.11 | a1fa | (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. |
| 18:51.11 | a1fa | (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file. |
| 18:51.16 | tarzeau | i've found a very beautiful solution... |
| 18:51.18 | a1fa | i got a dual card |
| 18:51.26 | a1fa | dual display vga card i am trying to hookup |
| 18:51.38 | _daniel_ | Cillian_Debian, get the drivers from ati |
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| 18:51.46 | _daniel_ | and install them yourself |
| 18:51.48 | Cillian_Debian | do they work with a duel-screen? |
| 18:52.03 | Cillian_Debian | Can't I apt-get them? |
| 18:52.07 | erasera | hi all! |
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| 18:52.10 | Cillian_Debian | hi |
| 18:52.32 | Cillian_Debian | ? |
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| 18:52.38 | _daniel_ | Cillian_Debian, yes there is a repo |
| 18:52.39 | kingsley_ | Does anyone here happen to know how to run updatedb so it won't report "permission denied" for some directories? |
| 18:52.43 | asg | !stab stew with 'screen -x' |
| 18:53.01 | tarzeau | !listfonts |
| 18:53.04 | _daniel_ | # ATI drivers |
| 18:53.04 | _daniel_ | # deb http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/ ./ |
| 18:53.17 | Cillian_Debian | ok... |
| 18:53.18 | tarzeau | dpkg listfonts is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/listfonts/ |
| 18:53.20 | Cillian_Debian | thanks |
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| 18:53.22 | _daniel_ | asg so basically I cant install it ? |
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| 18:53.39 | _daniel_ | everything is so broken right know that is stupid |
| 18:53.48 | stew | !ati drivers |
| 18:53.48 | dpkg | If you wish to use ATI's closed-source binary fglrx driver, then follow the instructions on http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html - do NOT try to convert the drivers from ATI's website yourself with Alien. These drivers support Radeon 8500 or higher cards. |
| 18:53.51 | sh4dowcat | heh |
| 18:53.53 | asg | _daniel_: depending on how out of wack sid and etch are these days, you might just directly install the sid package on etch and pray |
| 18:53.59 | HellKat | lol, tahnks stew lol |
| 18:54.02 | asg | _daniel_: stable doesn't have these problems |
| 18:54.12 | HellKat | im having issues with them also, |
| 18:54.24 | HellKat | you told me to use the free drivers, and now quake4 wont run |
| 18:54.26 | _daniel_ | well moving to stable would be absolutly impossible |
| 18:54.27 | goccia | say a pray ... till the mornign after la la la |
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| 18:54.47 | erasera | I'm a newbye with debian. I've some problems installing the audio drivers for the integrated chip VIA of my old motherboard... |
| 18:54.53 | asg | _daniel_: backup volatile data ; reinstall with sarge ; restore backed up data. Work in peace |
| 18:54.58 | Oceanborn | Hi guys! How long gnome-2.12 still experimental? |
| 18:54.59 | erasera | Anyone can help me? |
| 18:55.15 | asg | sussudio: magic hate ball? |
| 18:55.16 | Lynoure | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:55.20 | Lynoure | oops, sorry |
| 18:55.22 | abrotman | Oceanborn: til they think it's ready not to be |
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| 18:55.24 | _daniel_ | asg I actually need the current libc I have, and my current kernel |
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| 18:55.34 | sh4dowcat | Oceanborn: and no there's no date |
| 18:55.36 | sh4dowcat | next! |
| 18:55.39 | _daniel_ | Sarges gcc doesnt compile the lastest kernel |
| 18:55.44 | asg | _daniel_: then run sarge in a chroot |
| 18:55.45 | sussudio | asg: it is not a good idea to enter the channel if you're in the 85.* range and you set your ident to something like "ZveN" |
| 18:55.59 | sh4dowcat | _daniel_: it's not supposed to |
| 18:56.06 | asg | sussudio: ah, figured it was someone from earlier you remembered. |
| 18:56.06 | sh4dowcat | it's supposed to compile the one in stable |
| 18:56.11 | sh4dowcat | and it does that just fine |
| 18:56.15 | asg | sussudio: does this mean its kawfee time? |
| 18:56.25 | sussudio | asg: no, he's not awake yet. |
| 18:56.40 | HellKat | How do I take out the free drivers and install fglrx? |
| 18:56.48 | asg | sussudio: that's good |
| 18:56.53 | omry | when I reboot, about 80% of the times, the system hangs when it shut down the Hardware abstraction layer. anyone know how to investigate or fix it? |
| 18:57.04 | Oceanborn | sh4dowcat, I trying to apt-get gnome-core from experimental branch but I don't see 2.12 version here (( I think long waiting - our everything ;) |
| 18:57.10 | sussudio | omry: umm. does this look like #windows? |
| 18:57.23 | sh4dowcat | Oceanborn: I really don't care |
| 18:57.28 | sh4dowcat | first off, I don't use Gnome |
| 18:57.29 | omry | sussudio, did my question looked like its a question about windows? |
| 18:57.34 | sh4dowcat | secondly, wait until it shows up |
| 18:57.34 | stew | HellKat: you dont' take out the free drivers, you just install the non-free ones additionally |
| 18:57.35 | sussudio | omry: yes. |
| 18:57.37 | sh4dowcat | or ocmpile it yourself |
| 18:57.38 | asg | omry: yes or gnome |
| 18:57.41 | sh4dowcat | compile* |
| 18:57.44 | HellKat | stew: how do I do that? |
| 18:57.45 | omry | sussudio, well its not. |
| 18:57.51 | sussudio | omry: HAL is a windows NT thing. |
| 18:57.54 | stew | HellKat: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 18:57.55 | asg | omry: is it an ubuntu question? |
| 18:58.02 | sh4dowcat | sussudio: actually HAL exists in Debian too |
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| 18:58.02 | omry | debian etch. |
| 18:58.05 | sh4dowcat | so get off your high horse |
| 18:58.08 | sh4dowcat | next! |
| 18:58.16 | fbi | your horse smokes weed? |
| 18:58.17 | fbi | cool. |
| 18:58.17 | sussudio | !troll sh4dowcat |
| 18:58.28 | sh4dowcat | hah |
| 18:58.48 | stew | !info hal |
| 18:58.50 | sh4dowcat | there's been a hardware abstraction layer package in debian for ages |
| 18:58.51 | dpkg | hal: (Hardware Abstraction Layer), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.4.8-8 (sid), Packaged size: 205 kB, Installed size: 644 kB |
| 18:58.59 | sh4dowcat | !info hal etch |
| 18:59.01 | stew | gnome-volume-manger depends on hal |
| 18:59.01 | dpkg | hal: (Hardware Abstraction Layer), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.4.8-7 (etch), Packaged size: 206 kB, Installed size: 492 kB |
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| 18:59.17 | sh4dowcat | lots of things depend on hal |
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| 18:59.53 | TwistedEmotions | Question... if you saw this on CNN or a Newspaper of something... would you bother reading it.. "Is media protrayal of genius criminal hackers actually a false world of idiot children?" |
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| 19:00.24 | sussudio | !confuse TwistedEmotions |
| 19:00.24 | dpkg | Yes, who was our pineapple tomorrow, TwistedEmotions? breeches of the democracy of mongolia with extra crabpaste |
| 19:00.25 | asg | TwistedEmotions: no |
| 19:00.38 | w3rdn4 | TwistedEmotions, Seems like a rather dumb question made into a statement about children |
| 19:00.47 | erasera | is there an Italian channel where to ask help for my problem?? |
| 19:00.48 | w3rdn4 | I wouldn't waste much time on it |
| 19:00.51 | asg | !it |
| 19:00.51 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 19:00.54 | asg | erasera: ^^^ |
| 19:00.55 | TwistedEmotions | dammit |
| 19:01.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: told you. |
| 19:01.02 | erasera | ty!! |
| 19:01.03 | TwistedEmotions | fuck you guys.. it's good |
| 19:01.05 | deadcat | they are no help here. |
| 19:01.21 | sussudio | !tasso TwistedEmotions |
| 19:01.22 | dpkg | TwistedEmotions: tasso tasso tasso tasso fungo fungo serpente oooh serpenteeee! |
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| 19:01.40 | goccia | erasera: all italian channels are owned by prime jokers-ministers |
| 19:01.47 | omry | so, no ideas how to debug that HAL shutdown? |
| 19:01.56 | asg | omry: try #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 19:02.13 | treyh0 | so, i recompiled gnome-panel_2.8.3-1_i386.deb with some patches, but every time i do an update, apt wants to wipe out my local copy with the one from debian.org. i put my .deb on a local repository and set up apt preferences.conf to pin my own repository higher than stable (mine is 750 and debian stable is 700), but apt-get dist-upgrade always complains about needing to upgrade it, and always does with my same .deb, EVERY time i dist-upgrade |
| 19:02.18 | omry | asg, I am not even using gnome. some gnome apps here and there, nothing more. |
| 19:02.19 | treyh0 | (eep) |
| 19:02.20 | abrotman | !hold |
| 19:02.20 | dpkg | from memory, hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
| 19:02.23 | fbi | no help here? how about asking a f***ing question that pertains to Debian. |
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| 19:02.40 | w3rdn4 | fbi what does your uname -a say? |
| 19:02.42 | asg | omry: then maybe the debian-users mailing list. |
| 19:02.46 | HellKat | stew: its not working, I really just want to install this driver, you told me to use the free ones, and that screwed up my system |
| 19:02.54 | sh4dowcat | !not working |
| 19:02.54 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:02.56 | fbi | w3rdn4: why? |
| 19:03.13 | Nick_Hill | USB scanner as non-root using libusb and hotplug- How do I configure this in sarge? |
| 19:03.34 | sh4dowcat | add yourself to the scanner group |
| 19:03.34 | asg | fbi: 2.2.20-idepci ;) |
| 19:03.55 | fbi | eh? |
| 19:04.00 | bram | what's the most convenient way to connect to a KDE oriented debian box using VNC (from a windows machine)? |
| 19:04.02 | asg | nevermind, old channel joke |
| 19:04.02 | omry | asg, hmm, given only gnome-volume-manager and gnome-desktop-environment depends on it, I`ll try to remove it. |
| 19:04.10 | fbi | asg: i'm not old! |
| 19:04.11 | asg | omry: good idea. |
| 19:04.14 | Nick_Hill | sh4dowcat, The usb devices are not being chgrp's or chowned to scanner group. |
| 19:04.19 | asg | fbi: not you, the joke :p |
| 19:04.19 | fbi | Linux pentagon 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:04.21 | cahoot | Nick_Hill: add user to scanner group |
| 19:04.23 | sh4dowcat | bram: the same way you usually connect using vnc |
| 19:04.38 | stew | HellKat: sorry i don't know of any instructions for installing non-free drivers into xorg. i doubt that the free ones actually screwed up your system |
| 19:04.41 | sh4dowcat | Nick_Hill: no you can't chown the /dev system |
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| 19:04.55 | HellKat | stew: i dont think im using xorg.. |
| 19:04.58 | Nick_Hill | User is member of scanner group but will do no good as USB devices are owned root:root |
| 19:05.00 | sh4dowcat | filesystem even |
| 19:05.04 | patricius | how can i beep in linux? |
| 19:05.11 | fbi | asg: was that an old woody kernel or something? |
| 19:05.11 | bram | sh4dowcat: well, problem is 1) i'm a debian newbee :) 2) there doesn't seem to be much vnc on that debian box |
| 19:05.15 | Nick_Hill | libusb uses nodes in /proc/bus/usb |
| 19:05.16 | stew | HellKat: you said you were running 6.8.2.dfsg.1-9. |
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| 19:05.25 | cahoot | Nick_Hill: got hotplug installed/running? |
| 19:05.29 | HellKat | stew: no, thats what apt-get said |
| 19:05.31 | Nick_Hill | cahoot, yes |
| 19:05.38 | sh4dowcat | oh boy |
| 19:05.41 | stew | HellKat: what version of debian are you running? |
| 19:05.49 | sh4dowcat | bram: google for a vnc tutorial |
| 19:05.49 | bram | sh4dowcat: (linux newbee even) |
| 19:05.49 | HellKat | stew: how can I check? |
| 19:05.57 | bram | ok, thanks, i'll give it a try |
| 19:05.57 | stew | HellKat: oh yeah, you said sid, and xfree isn't in sid, only xorg |
| 19:05.59 | sh4dowcat | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:06.09 | stew | HellKat: do you have a reason to believe that apt-get is lying about what version of x you are running? |
| 19:06.10 | XTF | Hi. My courier imap ssl doesn't work anymore, syslog says: imapd-ssl: couriertls: /etc/courier/imapd.pem: error:25066067:DSO support routines:DLFCN_LOAD:could not load the shared library |
| 19:06.11 | asg | fbi: woody installer kernel with little support that was always asked of the "my sound won't work fuX0rs crowd" |
| 19:06.13 | amorphix | grrrrr |
| 19:06.14 | asg | !idepci |
| 19:06.14 | dpkg | 2.2.20-idepci makes greycat cry. apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20 or kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 or similar. You didn't read the final section of the install guide /msg dpkg install guide. Go read it before we laugh at you :) |
| 19:06.16 | sh4dowcat | stew: so why is he in sid when he can't even get ATI working? |
| 19:06.19 | HellKat | stew: how can I check what system im running? |
| 19:06.21 | XTF | Does anyone know what's wrong? |
| 19:06.24 | sh4dowcat | just out of sheer curiosity? |
| 19:06.24 | stew | sh4dowcat: his "friend" set it up for him |
| 19:06.25 | amorphix | will someone check my webserver now to see if speed has improved? |
| 19:06.28 | madclicker | when i sudo from my account and create a file in my home directory the owner is "root" how can i change it , that when i sudo and create s file it will created with my username ? |
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| 19:06.34 | MikkelK | Hi. I have a very odd problem with Courier. I can't auth with a user named "mikkelk" on my system. All Other names works wine. If i try "$courierauthtest mikkelk [password]" it says "Trying authdaemon... - Temporary authentication failure from module authdaemon" |
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| 19:06.39 | fbi | hah. i always installed woody with the bf24 kernel |
| 19:06.42 | amorphix | http://www.amorphix.net/cgi-bin/amorphix/antiques |
| 19:06.49 | Nick_Hill | it appears that by default, the hotplug subsystem is not chgrping the usb /proc/bus/usb devices to group scanner |
| 19:06.54 | fbi | i've never run linux with a 2.2 kernel |
| 19:07.01 | stew | HellKat: dpkg -l | grep xserver |
| 19:07.23 | HellKat | ii xserver-common 6.8.2.dfsg.1-9 files and utilities common to all X servers |
| 19:07.23 | HellKat | ii xserver-xfree86 6.8.2.dfsg.1-9 transitional package for moving from xfree86 |
| 19:07.23 | HellKat | ii xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-9 the X.Org X server |
| 19:07.28 | stew | HellKat: or paste your sources.list into #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste dont paste here |
| 19:07.30 | sh4dowcat | !paste |
| 19:07.30 | dpkg | it has been said that paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 19:07.37 | stew | HellKat: you are running xorg |
| 19:07.39 | osmel | x/exit |
| 19:07.39 | sh4dowcat | HellKat: don't paste in here |
| 19:07.39 | asg | amorphix: faster but still slow downloading the images |
| 19:07.41 | sh4dowcat | period |
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| 19:08.01 | HellKat | ok, |
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| 19:08.06 | amorphix | asg: ok thanks |
| 19:08.08 | HellKat | how do I get fglrx to work again? |
| 19:08.09 | stew | he's clearly on sid or some derivative |
| 19:08.10 | Nick_Hill | It would make sense for there to be a way for me to tell the hotplug subsystem that my usbdevice xxxx,xxxx should be available to members of the scanner group. |
| 19:08.17 | cahoot | Nick_Hill: according to the docs it should |
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| 19:08.22 | asg | amorphix: and your javascript is doing something funky with the images |
| 19:08.29 | amorphix | asg: as far as i can tell the router is at 100bps according to the leds on front |
| 19:08.37 | amorphix | hehe |
| 19:09.05 | cahoot | Nick_Hill: and has done so on my system as long as I've had it (sarge ->etch) |
| 19:09.37 | amorphix | whats a "category 5" Rj45 cable |
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| 19:09.51 | Nick_Hill | cahoot, I fixed this on woody and remained on an update to sarge, but I have re-installed. This has shown up a bug in the system. |
| 19:09.53 | treyh0 | amorphix: network cable for your network card |
| 19:10.02 | stew | amorphix: an regular ethernet cable |
| 19:10.10 | amorphix | ok |
| 19:10.26 | amorphix | this instruction manual is the worse ive ever seen for this router |
| 19:10.46 | amorphix | the illustration and diagrams is not even for the actual router ive received, the layout is all different |
| 19:10.50 | cahoot | Nick_Hill: you've already read /usr/share/doc/libsane/README.debian? |
| 19:11.04 | stew | amorphix: out of curiosity, what brand? |
| 19:11.15 | amorphix | Origo |
| 19:11.28 | stew | huh, never heard of them |
| 19:11.40 | asg | stew: their site doesn't give you that confident feeling |
| 19:11.44 | abrotman | stew: there's a good hint |
| 19:11.51 | stew | yeah |
| 19:12.09 | amorphix | im screwed |
| 19:12.25 | abrotman | amorphix: cute i hope |
| 19:12.27 | amorphix | or rather i have been |
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| 19:12.40 | a1fa | fixed |
| 19:12.40 | a1fa | ;P |
| 19:12.41 | Nick_Hill | cahoot, There has been nothing to lead me to that doc but I will take a look. It would make sense for there to be a list of USB device numbers and mappings which hotplug should know about. |
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| 19:13.04 | bram | sh4dowcat: i've forgotten to tell i'm running the debian-amd64 sarge thingy ... that seems to complicate getting a vncserver a bit |
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| 19:13.12 | HellKat | stew: i think that I need to change from xorg to xfree, how do I go about doing this? |
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| 19:13.32 | pzn | Hi! any source list for openoffice 2.0 for sarge? |
| 19:13.45 | stew | HellKat: reinstall, and install sarge aka debian stable instead of sid |
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| 19:14.33 | stew | HellKat: what is the problem with the free ati drivers? |
| 19:14.36 | HellKat | stew, but I had it working before.. all I wanted to do was to get quake4 working by updating my drivers, and you told me to use the free drivers. and now nothing works |
| 19:14.46 | HellKat | stew, want the exact error message? |
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| 19:15.04 | stew | sure but don't paste here, use http://chanels.debian.net/paste |
| 19:15.08 | stew | err |
| 19:15.11 | stew | !paster |
| 19:15.12 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 19:15.36 | cahoot | stew: the fashionable paster? |
| 19:15.46 | stew | cahoot: its so much more l33t |
| 19:15.47 | HellKat | ok, ill be 2 seconds |
| 19:16.03 | cahoot | chanels.debian.net |
| 19:16.14 | stew | cahoot: no that one sucks |
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| 19:16.28 | HellKat | stew, should i use it to paste into this channel, or into flood? |
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| 19:16.54 | stew | HellKat: either paste on that page and give us the url or paste in #flood |
| 19:17.05 | stew | HellKat: oh on that page, choose #debian |
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| 19:17.26 | HellKat | http://channels.debian.net/paste/955 |
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| 19:17.54 | w3rdn4 | Do we have a geostationary tether based propulsion system website out there? |
| 19:18.06 | stew | HellKat: wierd, you should file a bug: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 19:18.18 | stew | HellKat: this is using "radeon" or "ati"? |
| 19:18.25 | HellKat | radeon 9000 pro |
| 19:18.30 | stew | HellKat: if you had things working before, htere should be a backup xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 |
| 19:18.34 | w3rdn4 | where is a good irc channel for NASA? |
| 19:18.35 | stew | HellKat: which driver i mean |
| 19:18.42 | HellKat | fglrx |
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| 19:18.52 | asg | w3rdn4: at a guess, #nasa |
| 19:18.57 | HellKat | Reptyle from the Mlug installed it for me |
| 19:19.35 | stew | HellKat: oh, if that problem is with fglrx, then don't bother reporting any bugs |
| 19:19.54 | HellKat | stew, ok, should I just copy the old config file and put it as my new one? |
| 19:20.28 | Nick_Hill | cahoot, I found that /zold/etc/sane.d/hotplug/libsane.db should contain a database of mappings for USB device numbers. I found my scanner int he satabase, correctly listing permissions. I tried restarting hotplug. USB nodes still wrong perms. apt-get --reinftall install hotplug fixed the problem. |
| 19:20.33 | stew | HellKat: i have no idea. you have lost me. you told me the free driver messed things up but you are using fglrx but you don't know how to install fglrx, i give up |
| 19:20.42 | Nick_Hill | cahoot, ignore /zold part of path |
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| 19:21.26 | HellKat | stew, YOU told me to reconfigure, so I did, and I selected the free driver, then i tried to run quake4, and it gave me that error. |
| 19:21.41 | stew | < stew> HellKat: which driver i mean < HellKat> fglrx |
| 19:21.48 | Nick_Hill | cahoot, Thanks for the help. I think this has shown a bug. |
| 19:21.55 | spoof | hi. i have a trouble with kernel 2.6.12 and make-kpkg. make-kpkg doesn't build modules. "No rule to make target `/scripts/basic/Makefile'. Stop." |
| 19:21.59 | stew | HellKat: which driver are you currently using that gives you a segfault? |
| 19:22.04 | HellKat | stew, Free. |
| 19:22.07 | stew | HellKat: which |
| 19:22.13 | HellKat | stew, No idea... |
| 19:22.18 | HellKat | stew, Probably ATI |
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| 19:22.33 | stew | HellKat: what did you select when you reconfigured? |
| 19:22.36 | stew | forget it |
| 19:22.40 | Sir_LeChucK | hello, im using a 2.6 kernel, and my sound modules are up, but i dun have a /dev/dsp so arts won't come up... any idea ??? |
| 19:22.41 | HellKat | stew, Free. |
| 19:22.48 | HellKat | stew, what was the command to recnfigure again? |
| 19:22.48 | stew | HellKat: there is no such driver as "Free" |
| 19:22.55 | HellKat | stew, I selected ati |
| 19:23.10 | abrotman | stop using kde ? |
| 19:23.30 | abrotman | this was great .. i had free anti-kde reign while PerfDave was in hiding :) |
| 19:23.53 | pumpkin0 | can i join this anti-kde-thing ... ? |
| 19:23.57 | sussudio | !start a wm war |
| 19:23.57 | Sir_LeChucK | abrotman: that was for me ? |
| 19:23.57 | dpkg | GNOME blows! |
| 19:24.02 | sussudio | !botsnack |
| 19:24.20 | asg | sussudio: apparently, botsnack has been removed |
| 19:24.23 | abrotman | Sir_LeChucK: alsa should create that for you |
| 19:24.27 | sussudio | !listkeys botsnack |
| 19:24.28 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'botsnack' by key returned no results. |
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| 19:24.33 | sussudio | !britsnack |
| 19:24.34 | HellKat | stew: Thanks for fucking up my computer. |
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| 19:24.44 | asg | sussudio: it was a builtin, not a factoid |
| 19:24.53 | sussudio | :-| |
| 19:24.54 | valdyn | Sir_LeChucK: which sound modules are loaded? |
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| 19:25.08 | stew | like i did a goddam thing |
| 19:25.14 | Quistis | ellow |
| 19:25.17 | asg | sussudio: dunno if don removed it or if an upgrade to the blootbot code removed it. |
| 19:25.21 | Quistis | can anyone tell me of a good tftp server? |
| 19:25.23 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: let me se... |
| 19:25.35 | asg | Quistis: since tftp is simple, any will do |
| 19:25.36 | sussudio | dpkg: who broke you? |
| 19:26.00 | surfdue | oh sorry! |
| 19:26.02 | surfdue | :P: |
| 19:26.08 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: snd_intel8x0m, snd_intel8x0, snd_ac97_codec, snd_pcm, snd_timer, snd_pcm |
| 19:26.09 | amorphix | asg: well my router is set to 100mps as well as my nics |
| 19:26.10 | asg | sussudio: badgers needs to return ;) |
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| 19:26.31 | Quistis | asg: installed tftpd, couldnt find a program to start it. installed atftpd, started it, cant find it in ps aux and port is not open... |
| 19:26.33 | asg | amorphix: but are they both full duplex or both half duplex? |
| 19:26.36 | valdyn | Sir_LeChucK: ok - why dont you configure arts not to use oss but alsa? |
| 19:26.47 | asg | Quistis: tftpd is started from inetd usually |
| 19:26.52 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: let me se... |
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| 19:26.57 | secher__ | Heyas all. I'm trying to get a .wmv file playing and am having little success. I've tried xine and I've tried /duck mplayer. I keep getting ( from gxine ) that it cannot open wmvdmod.dll, which I've gotten from the 'Net and put in /usr/lib to no avail. any suggestions as to my next step? I don't care at this point if it's either gxine or mplayer. |
| 19:27.05 | asg | Quistis: /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 19:27.15 | abrotman | stop drinking the schuylkill water! |
| 19:27.21 | stew | ew |
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| 19:27.30 | secher__ | it's a wmv, wmv3 to be exact. |
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| 19:27.35 | abrotman | stew: did you make it down ? |
| 19:27.40 | Quistis | asg: thx will look at it. |
| 19:27.40 | fbi | secher__: mplayer should play an *.wmv fine, with the proper codecs, if not, try totem maybe |
| 19:27.43 | secher__ | abrotman: mmmMMMmmm tasty and chunky. |
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| 19:27.49 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: well, if i say alsa, he says: device: default can't be opened for playback (permission denied) |
| 19:27.59 | secher__ | fbi: thanks will try. |
| 19:28.20 | Quistis | ask: how can i start it without rebooting the machine or internet connection? |
| 19:28.22 | asg | abrotman: tasty and chunky (sounds like what we were talking about earlier with regards to jersey) |
| 19:28.23 | valdyn | Sir_LeChucK: open a shell, type 'groups' |
| 19:28.33 | valdyn | Sir_LeChucK: output of that is what? |
| 19:28.35 | abrotman | asg: about on cue :) |
| 19:28.36 | asg | Quistis: /etc/init.d/inetd restart |
| 19:28.58 | asg | abrotman: ewww, crap on cue (is that the Jersey flavor?) |
| 19:29.17 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: im just in group "pupu" (my username) and mldonkey |
| 19:29.20 | secher__ | Hey remember, shit floats downstream, and Pennsy is higher up than Jersey, so we're ok. |
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| 19:29.26 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: is there a snd group ? |
| 19:29.33 | valdyn | Sir_LeChucK: add yourself to the 'audio' group |
| 19:29.34 | asg | secher__: haha |
| 19:29.40 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: oh audio... |
| 19:29.45 | abrotman | secher__: given the cities the schuylkill goes through before getting to you.. i wouldn't be bragging about that |
| 19:29.49 | valdyn | Sir_LeChucK: then log out and back in, and set arts to use alsa |
| 19:29.52 | Quistis | asg: root@debian:~# telnet localhost 69 |
| 19:29.52 | Quistis | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| 19:29.52 | Quistis | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
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| 19:30.13 | asg | Quistis: tftp is a UDP protocol |
| 19:30.19 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: mm.. i dun remember how to add myself to a group :$ |
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| 19:30.24 | asg | Quistis: use netcat to test it |
| 19:30.37 | valdyn | Sir_LeChucK: 'adduser <username> audio' |
| 19:30.40 | asg | Quistis: or just install a tftp client and tftp to it |
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| 19:31.07 | Quistis | tftp> connect localhost |
| 19:31.07 | Quistis | tftp> put a |
| 19:31.11 | Quistis | tftp: error received from server <File not found> |
| 19:31.14 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: thanks |
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| 19:31.22 | valdyn | secher__: you put that dll into /usr/lib ? why? |
| 19:31.23 | asg | Quistis: you have to use full paths with tftp iirc |
| 19:31.27 | Sir_LeChucK | valdyn: brb |
| 19:31.33 | Quistis | asg?!? |
| 19:31.43 | asg | Quistis: tftp> put /path/to/file/you/want/to/put |
| 19:31.55 | asg | Quistis: it's tftp, it's dumb. |
| 19:32.01 | Quistis | oh :> |
| 19:32.17 | Quistis | tried netcat |
| 19:32.20 | Quistis | localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] 69 (?) : Connection refused |
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| 19:32.26 | some1too | I was just trying to install irssi but apt told me, that the package is not availible? how come? |
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| 19:32.39 | stew | abrotman: yeah, we had a very uneventful weekend in PA, mostly sitting at home watching movies which was fine with us |
| 19:32.39 | abrotman | irssi-text |
| 19:32.41 | abrotman | !search |
| 19:32.41 | dpkg | from memory, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search ... |
| 19:32.42 | valdyn | some1too: apt-cache search irssi |
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| 19:32.48 | abrotman | stew: you didn't call me! *snif* |
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| 19:32.55 | asg | Quistis: netcat -u (udp mode) |
| 19:33.09 | stew | abrotman: as if i have your phone number |
| 19:33.17 | Sir_LeChucK | stew: horray thanks :) |
| 19:33.20 | Quistis | asg: if i dont get any reply it works? |
| 19:33.23 | Beliag | hi everyone |
| 19:33.41 | asg | Quistis: well, tftp> above indicates it's working (or at least listening) |
| 19:33.54 | Beliag | is there any debian network wizz in the area ;-) |
| 19:34.07 | stew | Beliag: if you have a real question, just ask it |
| 19:34.30 | spoopin | Quistis: are you trying to send a file to a tftp server you're hosting? |
| 19:34.54 | Knight_Lord | I've got a strange problem. I've just bought a Seagate 500GB and replaced my sda by it but the debian installation doesn't recognize it even though the BIOS does. Does anyone had a problem like this? |
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| 19:35.06 | Quistis | spoopin just trying to get the tftp to work |
| 19:35.10 | Zap-W | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41695 |
| 19:35.25 | Zap-W | 500GB mama |
| 19:35.38 | Quistis | lol. maybe the folder is write protected? to what folder does it write to? |
| 19:35.53 | Knight_Lord | Zap-W sorry? |
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| 19:36.09 | Zap-W | Knight_Lord: you are excused |
| 19:36.11 | spoopin | Quistis: if you're trying to send a file to a tftp server, the file must exist and be world writable. |
| 19:36.26 | spoopin | Quistis: man in.tftpd for details |
| 19:36.43 | abrotman | stew: you know how to find me! |
| 19:36.48 | Knight_Lord | Did anyone have problems with 500GB disks and the debian installer? |
| 19:37.07 | spoopin | Quistis: look in /etc/inetd.conf for the path - it's usually /tftpboot |
| 19:37.08 | Beliag | ok ok :-| I have a PCI network card, which runs under linux throug ndiswrapper. The wireless network I connect to uses a static IP. I have set everything (key, type of authentication, IP @, Gateway, mask). When I start, everything goes up... but the essid. I have to run again the command "iwconfig wlan0 essid NETNAME" so that it really connects. Any idea? I am under unstable... |
| 19:37.08 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: which version of debian ? |
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| 19:37.55 | Quistis | spoopin: tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /boot |
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| 19:38.00 | Quistis | so it would be /boot? |
| 19:38.01 | asg | spoopin: tell Chad et. al. that the lamp box is fixed |
| 19:38.03 | stew | Beliag: add wireles-essid NETNAME to the wlan0 section of /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:38.14 | stew | Beliag: (man 5 interfaces ; man wireless) |
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| 19:38.58 | Beliag | I already have this line in my interfaces file. But I have to run the command again on command line so that it really take it... |
| 19:39.32 | asg | Beliag: wireless-essid or wireless_essid? |
| 19:39.35 | spoopin | Quistis: I'd change that /boot to a different directory and reload inetd |
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| 19:39.48 | spoopin | asg: did he/they know it was broken? |
| 19:39.48 | Quistis | doing that right now :> |
| 19:39.56 | Beliag | wireless-essid "NETGEAR" |
| 19:40.02 | asg | spoopin: they moved the student webspace to another domain and nobody fucking told me |
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| 19:40.24 | spoopin | asg: nice. Did they mail you to ask you to fix it? |
| 19:40.28 | stew | Beliag: try without the quotes |
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| 19:40.46 | asg | spoopin: kinda sorta |
| 19:40.48 | dpower | does anyone know of a command line AIM client? |
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| 19:41.07 | spoopin | asg: quite. |
| 19:41.12 | Beliag | oki doki. also if I run aptitude, and launch an update, and then want to set the essid, my computer freezes... nice isn't it? |
| 19:41.15 | sussudio | !tell dpower about search |
| 19:41.50 | stew | dpower: there is naim which is curses, and bitlbee which is an irc server (so you use im with your irc client) |
| 19:41.57 | sussudio | !info pork |
| 19:42.03 | dpkg | pork: (Console-based AOL Instant Messenger & IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.99.7-2 (sid), Packaged size: 223 kB, Installed size: 1524 kB |
| 19:42.04 | Piggy | o_O |
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| 19:42.06 | spoopin | asg: If they didn't tell you it was broken, don't tell them that it's fixed ;) |
| 19:42.11 | Beliag | /tell stew thanks for the help, I try it now |
| 19:42.12 | asg | spoopin: too late |
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| 19:42.48 | omry | in libapache2-mod-auth-mysql USAGE file, there it says I should add "Auth_MySQL_Info <host> <user> <password>" somewhere, but doesn't say where. should it go into apache2.conf ? |
| 19:42.51 | spoopin | asg: Ok, then. I scheduled with Jon for tomorrow night. You still up for it? |
| 19:42.52 | Quistis | spoopin: so if im puting a file on a tftpd my line would be: put /local/path/file /remote/path/file? |
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| 19:43.37 | dpower | thanks guys |
| 19:44.08 | error403 | I'm having an odd problem with Xorg... I had my font lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf set up so that 75dpi were before 100dpi, and this worked great for ages, and then suddenly, today, Xorg refuses to use 75dpi fonts, without me changing anything... Has anybody else had this happen, and knows how to fix it? |
| 19:44.22 | asg | spoopin: I'm up for it but might need a little time to work something up; I'm a bit rusty. |
| 19:44.25 | Quistis | spoopin: so if im puting a file on a tftpd my line would be: put /local/path/file /remote/path/file? |
| 19:45.17 | spoopin | Quistis: you have to create the file on the server and make it world writable FIRST, then you can send it from the client |
| 19:45.42 | spoopin | asg: Understandable. Should be fun regardless.. |
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| 19:45.56 | Knight_Lord | abrotman sorry i was testing a little more. It's sarge |
| 19:46.04 | dpower | so i can use bitlbee with irssi ? |
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| 19:46.09 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: what is? |
| 19:46.12 | Knight_Lord | abrotman i replaced the 500GB by a 400 and it worked ok |
| 19:46.13 | Knight_Lord | 3.1 |
| 19:46.23 | Knight_Lord | so the problem is specific to the 500GB |
| 19:46.37 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: oh .. uhm .. you tried 2.6 and 2.4 ? |
| 19:46.39 | stew | dpower: yeah |
| 19:46.43 | dpalacio | Hey I just moved to Xorg, and when I try starting Xorg with ati driver it looks really bad, so I tried with the fglrx, but it says module does not exist, even when I have modprobe it and works |
| 19:46.45 | Knight_Lord | i didn't try 2.4 |
| 19:46.50 | dpalacio | Am I doing something bad ? |
| 19:46.52 | Knight_Lord | abrotman i can give it a try |
| 19:47.12 | Quistis | ok thx guys |
| 19:47.13 | Quistis | bye |
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| 19:47.54 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: try it . i'm not aware of any issues |
| 19:48.01 | Knight_Lord | abrotman right now i have 1 500GB on the motherboard SATA controller and 14 400GB on 2 3ware 9500-8S. The 400 get detected and the 500 does not |
| 19:48.25 | Knight_Lord | abrotman if i switch one 500 by one 400 everything gets detected by i need the 500 outside the 3wares |
| 19:48.29 | dpalacio | anyone has any idea of the problem ? |
| 19:48.36 | Knight_Lord | abrotman checking 2.4 now |
| 19:48.50 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: does the SATA bios see it ? |
| 19:49.09 | asg | spoopin: yep |
| 19:49.24 | spoopin | asg: delayed reaction? |
| 19:49.28 | asg | spoopin: smoke |
| 19:49.43 | treyh0 | is there a way to stream AAC in linux? as in stream from a http site? |
| 19:49.46 | asg | spoopin: and Cingular was spamming me |
| 19:49.52 | treyh0 | totem-gstreamer with mp4 plugin plays about 10 seconds then hangs |
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| 19:50.12 | spoopin | asg: nice. |
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| 19:50.55 | dpalacio | WHen I do lsmod, I see that fglrx is loaded |
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| 19:51.05 | dpalacio | But apparently Xorg cant find it |
| 19:51.06 | md5sum | hey the best GPU out there is still the GeForce 7800GTX right? |
| 19:51.11 | dpalacio | or something |
| 19:51.22 | Knight_Lord | abrotman yes SATA does see it |
| 19:51.28 | asg | md5sum: this is #debian, not #l33tgamerz |
| 19:51.32 | md5sum | lol |
| 19:51.35 | md5sum | or not |
| 19:51.37 | Knight_Lord | abrotman there's a change with 2.4. I see the 500GB but i don't see any of the 400. I guess it's good |
| 19:51.45 | Applejax33 | ow just lost my bahamas servers |
| 19:51.49 | md5sum | I thought we were knowledgable ;) |
| 19:52.02 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: i wouldn't call that good |
| 19:52.03 | asg | Applejax33: get jharrison|wk to fix them |
| 19:52.08 | abrotman | Applejax33: find jharrison |
| 19:52.18 | Applejax33 | he lost connection |
| 19:52.25 | Applejax33 | they go poof |
| 19:52.26 | Knight_Lord | abrotman i can try to install with the 2.4 and then upgrade to a 2.6 that can see the others |
| 19:52.29 | asg | Applejax33: then there is a likely correlation |
| 19:52.42 | Knight_Lord | abrotman i think it does't see the 400 due to lack of appropriate drivers |
| 19:52.43 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: worth a shot |
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| 19:53.05 | Applejax33 | i failed over but still wonder how jason is anyone hear anything |
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| 19:53.14 | stew | Knight_Lord: its not like a 500gb disk would use different drivers than a 400gb disk |
| 19:53.17 | abrotman | Applejax33: not sure if you're aware of this .. but there's a little storm going on |
| 19:53.23 | Applejax33 | yea cat 3 |
| 19:53.28 | tarzeau | in dust we trust. how many millimeters of it do you have on your computers? |
| 19:53.50 | asg | tarzeau: I have several millis of yellow pollen from summer all over my office |
| 19:54.03 | sussudio | tarzeau: 21:53:45 up 381 days, 2:09, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 < i'm afraid to look in there |
| 19:54.23 | Applejax33 | whats the cmd for up time? |
| 19:54.23 | Knight_Lord | stew the 400 are on 3ware controllers |
| 19:54.30 | asg | tarzeau: 15:53:49 up 427 days, 8:03, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 (woody box) |
| 19:54.40 | fbi | Applejax33: uptime |
| 19:54.44 | fbi | asg: gimme a shell! |
| 19:54.45 | tarzeau | asg: haha, friend's car is full of this shit, and in summer when we were in (4 people), it was hot, so we turn on the air thingy and the pollen shit flew around all like crazy (like autumn wind storm in the car) |
| 19:54.46 | error403 | hehe |
| 19:54.48 | Applejax33 | <-- noob |
| 19:54.49 | tarzeau | LOL |
| 19:54.50 | Applejax33 | haha |
| 19:54.59 | stew | Knight_Lord: call up 3ware tech support, they have been extremely helpful to me in the past when i have called them |
| 19:55.02 | asg | fbi: hehe |
| 19:55.05 | treyh0 | :/ |
| 19:55.12 | asg | tarzeau: yep, had that happen |
| 19:55.13 | treyh0 | noone streams aac/mp4? |
| 19:55.17 | stew | Knight_Lord: what version 3ware card, btw? |
| 19:55.37 | tarzeau | i just was upstairs, got the yoghurt and forgot the water (damn i'm getting older) |
| 19:55.40 | asg | fbi: I'm surprised the hardware has lasted that long (Poweredge 2300 from years back) |
| 19:55.43 | stew | Knight_Lord: you might just need a firmware update |
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| 19:56.07 | fbi | asg: router or something? |
| 19:56.10 | asg | fbi: dns |
| 19:56.13 | fbi | nice |
| 19:56.38 | Applejax33 | anyone play with recording video from tv on debian? |
| 19:56.46 | Beliag | by everyone, and thanks for help |
| 19:57.00 | asg | fbi: I'm seeing 'APIC error on CPU0: 02(08)' periodically though so I don't know if it will last much longer |
| 19:57.07 | error403 | I'm having an odd problem with Xorg... I had my font lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf set up so that 75dpi were before 100dpi, and this worked great for ages, and then suddenly, today, Xorg refuses to use 75dpi fonts, without me changing anything... Has anybody else had this happen, and knows how to fix it? |
| 19:57.30 | Knight_Lord | stew there's nothing wrong with the 3ware |
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| 19:57.41 | Knight_Lord | stew the problem is that the 2.6 kernel cannot see the 500GB harddrive |
| 19:57.42 | fbi | asg: can't you hot swap the cpu without rebooting? |
| 19:57.46 | fbi | weeeeeeeeeee |
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| 19:57.58 | asg | fbi: not on that box, its a Dell pre-enterprise setup. |
| 19:58.01 | sussudio | !tell error403 about repeat |
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| 19:58.08 | Knight_Lord | stew the 2.4 cannot see the 3ware stuff but that's totally ok, not unexpected |
| 19:58.10 | fbi | Dell! ew. |
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| 19:58.53 | asg | fbi: yeah, no biggie. Last time I rebuilt that machine, I had DNS primary and secondary for the perimeter running on my laptop for a few hours in chroots |
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| 20:00.10 | Om | Hey, how come running "gaim" in a regular terminal works perfectly, but if I run the same command either with the xfce-menu "run program" thingy, or from inside screen, then it fails with a Gtk error saying it cannot assert that display is a display (which is the error I get if I do something like 'DISPLAY="foo" gaim') |
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| 20:01.08 | Om | Errr, I also get "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server - Xlib: No protocol specified"...but I only just noticed that one >.< |
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| 20:03.52 | some1too | I was just trying to to a /NETWORK ADD * cmd with irssi but it returns with unknown command NETWORK ??? It's written all over the documents? |
| 20:04.39 | asg | some1too: try /server or /connect |
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| 20:04.51 | StanTheMan | woza |
| 20:04.56 | StanTheMan | any idead on this: greer:/usr/sbin# postmap reload |
| 20:04.56 | StanTheMan | postmap: fatal: open reload: No such file or directory |
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| 20:05.01 | laurens_ | hi |
| 20:05.02 | StanTheMan | ideas |
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| 20:05.22 | scruffy | StanTheMan: postfix reload instead |
| 20:05.23 | asg | StanTheMan: try doesn't postmap create db files of configs? |
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| 20:05.40 | Knight_Lord | abrotman ok i installed with 2.4 updated to the latest debian stable kernel and got kernel panic, as expected |
| 20:05.46 | abrotman | WHAT?! |
| 20:05.46 | Knight_Lord | abrotman so i'm leaning to kernel bug |
| 20:05.54 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: ask #kernel ? |
| 20:06.18 | StanTheMan | asg: huh? |
| 20:06.18 | Knight_Lord | abrotman the disk was not detected so it failed when mounting / that's why i get a kernel panic |
| 20:06.31 | asg | StanTheMan: you said postmap reload |
| 20:06.35 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: cute .. maybe try a kernel from etch |
| 20:06.45 | StanTheMan | sakjdfkjadskjfladksf;j |
| 20:06.48 | StanTheMan | call me idiot |
| 20:06.49 | StanTheMan | sry |
| 20:06.50 | sandman | What's a good binary to recompile with different flags that's useful for benchmarking? |
| 20:07.01 | sandman | Currently I just time <somecommand> |
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| 20:07.19 | StanTheMan | asg: sry....still loopy due to this flu bug I've been fighting since Friday... |
| 20:07.27 | asg | no worries |
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| 20:07.54 | fbi | uh oh, bird flu found in uk. better lay off them kebabs asg. |
| 20:08.36 | StartBuck | This is maybe a stupid question, but how should i write a "for i in /some/dir/*; do blah...blah...; done" script so it doesn't complain when /some/dir/ is empty? |
| 20:08.36 | asg | fbi: I did mad cow, I can handle bird flu |
| 20:08.46 | fbi | hah! |
| 20:08.49 | StanTheMan | asg: at least i don't have the digestive track problems commonly associated with flue. Just the nasal, bronchial, headache, muscle aches, bones/joints tener |
| 20:08.58 | StanTheMan | flu |
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| 20:09.19 | asg | StanTheMan: do what I always do, have a beer or 5 and a bowl of soup or chili. You'll be right as rain in no time |
| 20:09.23 | some1too | asg, but I need to do this cmd to make irssi connect to my psyBNC account? |
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| 20:09.35 | StanTheMan | ^ or 5 bwahahaha |
| 20:09.43 | asg | some1too: try substituting /server for /NETWORK |
| 20:10.00 | StanTheMan | ahh matrix quote |
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| 20:10.06 | error403 | How do i find what DPI setting Xorg was started with? |
| 20:10.38 | fbi | error403: look at the bottom section of xorg.conf i guess |
| 20:10.50 | Coweater | error403: xdpyinfo|grep resolution |
| 20:11.05 | abrotman | grep -i probably |
| 20:11.10 | fbi | error403: never mind what i said, thought you said DRI |
| 20:11.24 | error403 | Coweater: thanks! |
| 20:11.29 | asg | StartBuck: check for existance first [ -d $i ] && blah |
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| 20:12.38 | StanTheMan | wish i had a bottle of SoCo lying around...that'd clear me right up ;) |
| 20:12.46 | Laibsch | I have a strange situation where my Debian client will register its hostname to the DHCP server when I do pump -i eth0 and I can do "ping X20" but when I retry a couple of minutes later I get "ping: unknown host X20". To get it work for at least a couple of minutes I tweaked /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 20:12.55 | error403 | Coweater: its not doing anything, saying "Cannot open display" |
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| 20:13.34 | SimonRaven | yeh, if you don't mind having a raw throat afterwards |
| 20:13.37 | some1too | asg, I need to do a /NETWORK ADD -user thisuser but irssi keeps telling me, this cmd doesnt exist |
| 20:13.39 | StartBuck | asg: yah...but not if the directory exists...the question is whether it has any files or not....I could do something like COUNT=$( ls -1 /some/dir/ | wc -l) and check COUNT but it seems very inelegant |
| 20:13.41 | cockroach | Laibsch: something overwriting/deleting your resolv.conf? |
| 20:13.52 | SillyCone | Hi, I'm trying to download Debian DVD images, some sites have debian-31r0a-i386-binary and others have debian-31r0-i386-binary. Which one should I get? |
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| 20:14.08 | SimonRaven | SillyCone: a |
| 20:14.18 | SillyCone | SimonRaven, thanks! |
| 20:14.22 | fbi | some1too: 179 users in #irssi |
| 20:14.56 | some1too | alright fbi, I guess I'll head there |
| 20:14.59 | some1too | :) |
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| 20:15.35 | SimonRaven | like we say in these parts, kwe |
| 20:15.55 | Laibsch | cockroach: I do not think so. I assume the unknown host message comes from the DHCP/DNS server. I think that server "forgets" too early. |
| 20:15.55 | erwin_ | HELLO TO WORD |
| 20:16.10 | sussudio | !aolify erwin_ |
| 20:16.11 | erwin_ | I MA CHILE |
| 20:16.22 | asg | StartBuck: true but functionality is elegant in its own way |
| 20:16.23 | wkm | StartBuck: try "find $dir -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 | wc -l" |
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| 20:16.37 | erwin_ | WO INSTALL TEMPERATURA IN DEBIAN |
| 20:16.55 | SimonRaven | erwin_: #debian-es, and please turn off the all caps |
| 20:17.00 | Laibsch | cockroach: I do not appear to have a domain set for my computer. Maybe that is part of the problem. |
| 20:17.03 | cockroach | Laibsch: X20 is the client? |
| 20:17.04 | erwin_ | sorry |
| 20:17.07 | jockell | hello, i really need help, i just deleted all /etc/init.d/* files by accident. the system is still up, now what? |
| 20:17.14 | Laibsch | cockroach: yes. |
| 20:17.21 | abrotman | !es |
| 20:17.21 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 20:17.26 | Coweater | error403: are you running it from X? |
| 20:17.26 | cockroach | Laibsch: ah, i thought it was the server. |
| 20:17.34 | SimonRaven | jockell: reinstall anything that has a file in there |
| 20:17.35 | fbi | !pal jockell |
| 20:17.36 | kioto | good evening to all |
| 20:17.37 | Laibsch | hostname -f say hostname: Unknown host |
| 20:17.50 | Knight_Lord | abrotman it works with 2.6.11. Unfortunately i have to somehow fidle with grub because the device name changes from hda to sda |
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| 20:17.53 | kingsley_ | Is Andreas Metzler here? |
| 20:18.00 | Laibsch | cockroach: No, the server has an IP of 192.168.100.1 |
| 20:18.08 | kioto | hei guys, who can help me with my X-Free86 ?! |
| 20:18.14 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: that's a 2.4 -> 2.6 change |
| 20:18.24 | Knight_Lord | abrotman exactly |
| 20:18.25 | fbi | kioto: not without you telling us the problem first |
| 20:18.32 | kioto | :D |
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| 20:18.36 | kioto | thanks fbi |
| 20:18.45 | Knight_Lord | abrotman i don't know exactly how to do it but it can be done :-) |
| 20:18.48 | fbi | don't thank me yet |
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| 20:18.54 | cockroach | Laibsch: setting usable hostnames might help with networking issues, yes, but it's weird that it just forgets it... |
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| 20:19.22 | StartBuck | wkm: uhmm...oh, you set me on the right path...for i in `find /some/place/ -type f -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -print`; do blah...blah...; done won't complain if there are no files |
| 20:19.27 | kioto | i have installed from two days my first debian distro |
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| 20:19.30 | jockell | dpkg: thanks a lot ;-) |
| 20:19.31 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: edit the grub config before you reboot or .. edit it when it boots .. boot up .. fix .. reboot :) |
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| 20:19.59 | jockell | SimonRaven: how can i force a reinstalltion of a package ? apt-get install foobar will tell me that foobar is already newest version |
| 20:20.09 | SimonRaven | man apt-get |
| 20:20.09 | asg | jockell: --reinstall |
| 20:20.18 | spoopin | StartBuck: what's its exit code if it finds no files? |
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| 20:20.53 | error403 | Coweater: no, i wasnt - I'll try that... |
| 20:21.01 | jockell | thanks ask & SimonRaven |
| 20:21.11 | Knight_Lord | abrotman editng while booting worked fine. It's working :-). Thanks for the help |
| 20:21.11 | abrotman | ask ? |
| 20:21.12 | kioto | sometimes the X-server don't start |
| 20:21.18 | abrotman | Knight_Lord: enjoy! |
| 20:21.21 | fbi | better than being called 'asl' |
| 20:21.25 | asg | hah |
| 20:21.30 | asg | or ass |
| 20:21.36 | fbi | that too. |
| 20:21.51 | Laibsch | cockroach: The thing is, I only want to set my hostname and not the domain since this is a laptop that is part of several networks. |
| 20:21.53 | fbi | kioto: look at your X log for actual (EE) errors. |
| 20:21.54 | StartBuck | spoopin: 0, but it doesn't matter for this script at least |
| 20:21.55 | Thorrn4 | hello! Today, I was trying to install OpenOffice.org, but I not able http://pastebin.com/404461 I think that the servers that I connect to, for repos, dont have the packages |
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| 20:22.06 | kioto | yes fbi |
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| 20:22.10 | error403 | Coweater: i get "95x96" dpi |
| 20:22.18 | cockroach | Laibsch: well, just set it in /etc/hosts |
| 20:22.30 | PerfDave | Thorrn4: You appear to be running MEPIS. #mepis. |
| 20:22.35 | cockroach | create a line "127.0.0.1 localhost" |
| 20:22.54 | error403 | Coweater: strange thing is, i was using 75dpi fonts for like 2 weeks, and now all of a sudden they dont get used... |
| 20:22.56 | Thorrn4 | PerfDave, there is no one in that room....I'm not sure where else to look |
| 20:22.58 | SimonRaven | aliases can appear after the first name |
| 20:23.01 | kioto | i have used this command cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 20:23.05 | error403 | IT appears my xorg.conf is being ignored.... |
| 20:23.14 | SimonRaven | e.g., 127.0.0.1 localhost somehostname |
| 20:23.14 | kioto | sorry, cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log | grep EE |
| 20:23.14 | PerfDave | Thorrn4: #debian is for Debian, you're using MEPIS and not Debian :) |
| 20:23.19 | asg | Thorrn4: #debian-oo (maybe) |
| 20:23.22 | fbi | kioto: /j #flood |
| 20:23.26 | PerfDave | asg: He's not running Debian! |
| 20:23.29 | PerfDave | Thorrn4: Maybe check the MEPIS website for mailing lists? |
| 20:23.29 | Coweater | error403: do you have the dimension set for your display in your X config? |
| 20:23.40 | Amarande | hmm, while I wait for AOpen to call back |
| 20:23.44 | asg | PerfDave: oh, I missed that |
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| 20:23.51 | Amarande | any of you know anything about RAM? |
| 20:23.59 | sussudio | !kill Amarande |
| 20:24.00 | asg | Amarande: some kind of truck? |
| 20:24.04 | error403 | Coweater: in xorg.conf? |
| 20:24.04 | Amarande | like, why a motherboard would know that a memory module is there, yet not be able to use it? |
| 20:24.13 | SimonRaven | who's ram, and what did you do to them? |
| 20:24.31 | Coweater | error403: in your Monitor section, if you set the DisplaySize, it'll automatically set up the appropriate dpi |
| 20:24.32 | Amarande | I have 3 512MB DIMMs in this box. The board is supposed to support up to 2GB. Diagnostic software indicates that all the modules are there, and work fine. |
| 20:24.41 | Amarande | But it says I have only 1 GB. |
| 20:24.46 | asg | Amarande: what kernel? |
| 20:24.50 | Coweater | error403: not sure what it'll do relating to the fonts though |
| 20:24.54 | PerfDave | Amarande: What says that you only have 1GB? The BIOS, or Linux? |
| 20:24.58 | Amarande | The modules are definitely not defective, since if I take one out, I still have a GB. |
| 20:25.02 | Amarande | BIOS, and any OS I care to test with. |
| 20:25.22 | SimonRaven | might need some setting in the bios... |
| 20:25.28 | error403 | Coweater: i know, but what it sets isnt what i want - it sets 100dpi by default for me - usually i change it in xorg.conf, and it uses 75dpi, and thats fune |
| 20:25.34 | PerfDave | Amarande: Then your BIOS is at fault. If your BIOS says you only have 1Gb, that's what you need to fix first. Later, you may have to deal with your Linux kernel, but you need to sort the BIOS first. |
| 20:25.38 | asg | SimonRaven: or an older kernel |
| 20:25.44 | Laibsch | cockroach: How will that help with other clients on those networks? Will it? |
| 20:25.46 | error403 | there must be something else wrong to NEVER have consistant xorg behaviour... |
| 20:25.51 | TwistedEmotions | Amarande: BIOS needs to recognize that the ram is installed.. something is wrong.. unless BIOS recognizes... linux wont recongize |
| 20:26.02 | cockroach | Laibsch: no |
| 20:26.12 | Thorrn4 | sorry, but I have another question: how can I install an NVIDIA-Kernel 2.6.13.3 that is a ".DEB" file? |
| 20:26.15 | SimonRaven | sussudio: first thing i do when i get a mobo, is find the fricking manual |
| 20:26.19 | SimonRaven | asg: yeh |
| 20:26.19 | error403 | Coweater: an example of it ignoring my config - i commented out ALL of the fontpaths, and it didnt care... |
| 20:26.32 | Amarande | hmm |
| 20:26.37 | Amarande | apparently, it's some weird issue with i845 |
| 20:26.42 | TwistedEmotions | Amarande: BIOS tells the OS how much ram there is... is BIOS reports wrong number then OS doesnt know any better.. |
| 20:26.43 | Laibsch | cockroach: So what good is it for me? |
| 20:26.49 | Amarande | i845 doesn't like slots 2 and 3 both having double-sided DIMMs |
| 20:26.54 | Amarande | it will gladly tell you both are there |
| 20:26.57 | Amarande | and no ill effects appear to occur |
| 20:27.00 | asg | Amarande: uname -r |
| 20:27.02 | TwistedEmotions | Amarande: try updating motherboard firmware |
| 20:27.02 | Amarande | but it will only give you the memory from one |
| 20:27.04 | SimonRaven | well there you go |
| 20:27.05 | PerfDave | Thorrn4: You're still running MEPIS. You don't want to ask questions on #debian, you'll get answers which may trash your system. |
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| 20:27.16 | TwistedEmotions | asg: BIOS issue not linux. |
| 20:27.18 | Amarande | Twisted: I just got off the phone with Aopen. Apparently I can use only two of these DIMMs |
| 20:27.23 | Thorrn4 | oh, thanx PerfDave |
| 20:27.24 | Amarande | Twisted: Chipset issue, not BIOS |
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| 20:27.34 | error403 | Coweater: what section should DisplaySize be in, and in what format (in xorg.conf) ? |
| 20:27.47 | TwistedEmotions | Amarande: Motherboard chipset - bios |
| 20:27.58 | PerfDave | Wow, I got a non-Debian-user to leave #debian, I clearly rock :) |
| 20:28.13 | PerfDave | Admittedly, it was on the second attempt ;) |
| 20:28.14 | cockroach | Laibsch: maybe no good at all, but IF the client is acting weird on a network issue AND some other network-related command (hostname -f) reports an error message, I usually fix that before looking for other explanations. |
| 20:28.15 | abrotman | Amarande: does the BIOS count the RAM correctly ? |
| 20:28.17 | Coweater | error403: Monitor section, "DisplaySize X Y" in millimeters |
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| 20:28.48 | asg | PerfDave: you have leet Swayze Roadhouse skillz |
| 20:29.14 | Amarande | abrotman: It does not. |
| 20:29.28 | Amarande | However, diagnostic tools indicate that all 3 modules are in fact recognized as being present |
| 20:29.34 | abrotman | Amarande: and you're sure the Mobo supports > 1GB ? |
| 20:29.36 | Amarande | apparently, the i845 chipset does not allow all 3 to be used, however |
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| 20:29.45 | Amarande | yes, the mobo supports 2GB, the BIOS supports 2GB |
| 20:29.56 | SimonRaven | fucked up chipset... |
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| 20:29.57 | error403 | Coweater: well, i have nothing to measure with. so thats a pain... >.< |
| 20:29.57 | abrotman | Amarande: you should read your manual .. there may be a trick you need to do |
| 20:29.58 | Amarande | the chipset, however, does not support double-sided memory in both slots 2 and 3 |
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| 20:30.08 | Amarande | and as all of my DIMMs are double sided ... |
| 20:30.11 | abrotman | Amarande: which i'm sure the manual states |
| 20:30.20 | SimonRaven | it does |
| 20:30.36 | TwistedEmotions | Amarande: go return it ;) |
| 20:30.42 | Coweater | error403: if it's a decent monitor the company will probably have a specs sheet on the site, or you can just google around |
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| 20:30.52 | Amarande | Now I have other issues, which relate to upgrading the winbox so I can give the old mobo to the other winbox, and the old old mobo to a new Linux box. |
| 20:30.58 | Amarande | These issues center primarily around FINDING the proper hardware. |
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| 20:31.08 | Amarande | Are there any recent motherboards that still have dual channel IDE? |
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| 20:31.31 | abrotman | Amarande: many |
| 20:31.39 | Amarande | hmm, I seem to be having trouble finding them |
| 20:31.44 | abrotman | Amarande: which CPU ? |
| 20:31.45 | andrew | need some networking help, i want connect a windows box with no wireless to a laptop with wireless and a onboard ethernet so the windows box can connect to the internet only connected to the laptops on board ethernet |
| 20:31.46 | Amarande | the ones I see keep saying 4x SATA, 1 channel IDE |
| 20:31.47 | Amarande | P4 |
| 20:32.09 | Amarande | And I'm assuming that connecting an IDE HD to an SATA channel will do a lot of nothing. |
| 20:32.17 | abrotman | http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=212 |
| 20:32.19 | abrotman | that one has two |
| 20:32.22 | abrotman | see how easy that was |
| 20:32.30 | Laibsch | cockroach: Sounds like a good strategy. All this is pretty intransparent to me. |
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| 20:32.36 | TwistedEmotions | andrew: ipmasq is the way to do it.. |
| 20:32.58 | Amarande | SATA is *not* backwards compatible with ATA 33/66/100, I am assuming. |
| 20:32.58 | andrew | twistedEmotions: what is that |
| 20:33.22 | TwistedEmotions | andrew: apt-get install ipmasq... man ipmasq |
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| 20:33.54 | TwistedEmotions | andrew: I do the same thing... expect I have the desktop with wireless and lappy without wireless... |
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| 20:34.15 | PerfDave | TwistedEmotions, andrew: I'd advise avoiding the ipmasq package. I've tried it and it's easier and better IMHO to set things up by hand by reading the IP Masquerading HOWTO on netfilter.org |
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| 20:34.36 | rbd | is there a way to easily install the python2.4 package from testing onto a 'stable' box? |
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| 20:34.53 | TwistedEmotions | PerfDave: I did it using a friends IPTables file... but everyone here recommended ipmasq |
| 20:34.58 | rbd | or would I have to move to testing |
| 20:35.04 | asg | rbd: sarge has python2.4 |
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| 20:35.10 | mtnman | rbd: configure a testing source line in sources.list and use apt-get -b source foopkg |
| 20:35.18 | Amarande | abrotman: wow |
| 20:35.23 | Amarande | that may be the only such motherboard in existence, heh |
| 20:35.25 | abrotman | Amarande: ? |
| 20:35.27 | PerfDave | TwistedEmotions: I used to, until I used it and locked myself out of a box to which I only had remote access. Had to travel ~100 miles to sort it out. |
| 20:35.28 | rbd | asg: 2.4.1.... I need 2.4.2 :( |
| 20:35.30 | Amarande | at least, among LGA775 ones |
| 20:35.32 | abrotman | Amarande: nah .. abit sells more than one like that |
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| 20:35.55 | Amarande | I mean, I could find PLENTY of IDE support with mobos that use socket 478, which, however, maxes out around 2.6 GHz. |
| 20:35.57 | asg | rbd: they made a fundamental change on a point release? |
| 20:36.11 | SimonRaven | i doubt it |
| 20:36.12 | TwistedEmotions | PerfDave: hahhahhaha that sucks. my box and lappy are local.. so... not a problem |
| 20:36.19 | SimonRaven | that'd be weird |
| 20:36.22 | rbd | mtnman: if I had a testing line in sources.list, would it make dselect,etc want to try to take my distro to testing when I did an update? |
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| 20:36.28 | Amarande | asg: more likely, bugfix problems |
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| 20:36.36 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 20:36.41 | Amarande | sometimes when there is a major bug, scripts have to be coded to take it into account |
| 20:36.41 | rbd | asg: fixed a bug with the garbage collector that I need |
| 20:36.44 | Amarande | and then things break when the bug gets fixed |
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| 20:36.58 | mtnman | rbd: configure a line for "source" only. then it will look there for source only and binaries will be unaffected. |
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| 20:37.25 | kioto | fbi, |
| 20:37.25 | rbd | mtnman, sounds good. thanks |
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| 20:37.31 | kioto | it's ok |
| 20:37.37 | fbi | kioto: nice one. |
| 20:37.50 | kioto | thanks |
| 20:37.50 | mtnman | rbd: you may need to install some dev tools unless you already have them. |
| 20:37.50 | fbi | no problem. |
| 20:38.04 | Amarande | well, I guess it's time to power down so I can remove this memory module |
| 20:38.10 | Kiowas | I cant seem to get X working. it says /etc/X11/X is not executable |
| 20:38.10 | Amarande | I am assuming hot-unplugging DIMMs is not wise. :> |
| 20:38.23 | sussudio | :-| |
| 20:38.26 | SimonRaven | some boards can handle it ;) |
| 20:38.30 | kioto | what is the difference between /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice |
| 20:38.35 | SimonRaven | big iron mostly |
| 20:38.40 | asg | SimonRaven: watch out for the pop and whiff of ozone |
| 20:38.51 | mtnman | kioto: /dev/input/mice is usually a symlink, iirc |
| 20:39.14 | Amarande | Especially since TWO of these DIMMs are currently operational |
| 20:39.21 | SimonRaven | i mean it seriously, despite the wink. there's linux kernel support for them too, same for cpu hot-plugging |
| 20:39.26 | Amarande | and damned if I know which one is the one that isn't being used and can be yanked. :> heh |
| 20:39.33 | abrotman | Amarande: http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Products/Products_GA-8I865GM-775.htm# |
| 20:39.37 | SimonRaven | probably slot 3 |
| 20:39.43 | abrotman | Amarande: ok .. now you find two more :) |
| 20:39.58 | Amarande | okay, time for shutdown & reboot. |
| 20:40.18 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: ls -l /etc/X11/X |
| 20:40.19 | mtnman | kioto: maybe a hardlink |
| 20:40.25 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: fix the symlink if it doesn't exist |
| 20:40.33 | SimonRaven | it's a symlink |
| 20:40.47 | abraXas | kioto, /dev/psaux refers only to mices in thw ps2-plug, input/mice is a collector for al input/mices that use a ps2 compatible protocol, eg usb-mices |
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| 20:41.15 | Kiowas | SimonRaven its a broken link to /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 where should it point now? |
| 20:41.21 | kioto | now it's clearly |
| 20:41.32 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: depends, running xorg now? |
| 20:41.47 | Kiowas | SimonRaven not unless dpkg ignored my request |
| 20:42.02 | SimonRaven | does it exist? |
| 20:42.12 | SimonRaven | the XFree86 binary i mean |
| 20:42.25 | Kiowas | SimonRaven not in that directory. I dont know where else it would be |
| 20:42.38 | SimonRaven | what *is* present? |
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| 20:43.20 | StanTheMan | should i have high memory enabled in my custome kernel? |
| 20:43.31 | SimonRaven | only if you need it |
| 20:43.32 | psycose | hi all !, where could i configure udev/hotplug/hal for mounting (camera memory card) vfat partition codepage 850 instead of default (codepage 437) thanks |
| 20:43.38 | Kiowas | SimonRaven there are plenty of things in that directory. There is something just called 'X' |
| 20:43.50 | StanTheMan | SimonRaven: define need criteria |
| 20:43.50 | Kiowas | SimonRaven and plenty of other files |
| 20:44.01 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: what's the X point to, i'm assuming it's also a symlink |
| 20:44.16 | Kiowas | SimonRaven no, its an executable |
| 20:44.20 | SimonRaven | StanTheMan: ram total size larger than 1 GB |
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| 20:44.31 | StanTheMan | SimonRaven: k thx |
| 20:44.48 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: oh, that's a wrapper script IIRC, point it at that then |
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| 20:45.34 | SimonRaven | (actually large than 968 MB, for technical reasons, but 1 GB is ok for gross comparision) |
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| 20:45.50 | Triple_access | how the heak do you format your drive???? |
| 20:45.59 | Triple_access | it keeps saying it is being used |
| 20:46.09 | SimonRaven | deepends on what yopu mean by format |
| 20:46.15 | SimonRaven | pardon the typos |
| 20:46.17 | Triple_access | c: |
| 20:46.19 | Jon_ | lmao |
| 20:46.27 | Jon_ | youre in windows? |
| 20:46.29 | Kiowas | SimonRaven it says: /etc/X11/X points back to X wrapper executable, aborting. |
| 20:46.30 | Triple_access | my windows want startup correctly |
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| 20:46.51 | Jon_ | triple_access: where are you trying to format from? |
| 20:46.53 | Triple_access | i figered you guys would have more sense than the ones in the xp channel |
| 20:47.05 | Triple_access | from the C: command prompt |
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| 20:47.17 | amorphix | hi |
| 20:47.22 | amorphix | what port does ssh use? |
| 20:47.26 | Jon_ | triple_access: So you're in safe mode? |
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| 20:47.33 | Jon_ | amorphix : port 22 |
| 20:47.36 | Triple_access | i tried it in safe mode and still dont work |
| 20:47.46 | amorphix | thanks jon |
| 20:47.49 | Triple_access | says it is being used |
| 20:48.00 | Triple_access | so i ended explorer.exe |
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| 20:48.02 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: oops, forgot about that, sorry. i'll ask again, what do you have there - that's relevant (like XFree86, Xorg, etc.) |
| 20:48.05 | Jon_ | triple_access : you need to unmount the harddrive, but you can't when it's being used. Do you have another computer that you can put the HDD in as slave? |
| 20:48.05 | Triple_access | still nothing |
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| 20:48.20 | Triple_access | no |
| 20:48.27 | Triple_access | i see what your saying |
| 20:48.29 | SimonRaven | amorphix: getent service [foo|number] |
| 20:48.30 | Jon_ | triple_access : right |
| 20:48.34 | Sir_LeChucK | is there a command to "send" a key.. like "sendkey enter" so the os think i press enter ??! |
| 20:48.35 | Kiowas | SimonRaven ah, there is Xorg |
| 20:48.38 | SimonRaven | amorphix: services* |
| 20:48.39 | Triple_access | i cant use that drive to format that drive, right? |
| 20:48.53 | Jon_ | triple_access : correct |
| 20:49.01 | Triple_access | so in otherwords i cant format it with one pc |
| 20:49.05 | Triple_access | whats the use of that? |
| 20:49.07 | Triple_access | lol |
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| 20:49.16 | wkm | do u have abootup cd/disk? |
| 20:49.20 | Jon_ | triple_access : because it is mounted as the primary master... thereby it is in use. Yeah, it's stupid, but it's kind of like asking someone to kill themselves |
| 20:49.20 | Triple_access | no |
| 20:49.28 | amorphix | SimonRaven cool |
| 20:49.31 | TwistedEmotions | Does anyone know where xchat keeps it logs.. |
| 20:49.31 | eliteforce | is there a newer tool then ipchains (aptitude says network firewalling for linux 2.2.x)??? |
| 20:49.33 | Jon_ | triple_access : hmmm... do you have a windows disc? |
| 20:49.36 | Triple_access | lol |
| 20:49.40 | tarzeau | eliteforce: iptables |
| 20:49.43 | mtnman | triple_access: boot of of cd or floppy, then format hdd |
| 20:49.51 | eliteforce | tarzeau: thx |
| 20:49.51 | SimonRaven | amorphix: getent is really useful, check it out |
| 20:50.06 | Triple_access | can you help me with that |
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| 20:50.09 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: you know what i love about getent? |
| 20:50.09 | Jon_ | triple_access : how do you plan to re-install a windows OS without a boot disc? |
| 20:50.15 | SimonRaven | eliteforce: iptables is for 2.4.x and up |
| 20:50.20 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: what? |
| 20:50.21 | Kiowas | SimonRaven that worked, thanks. But now Im wondering why dpkg ignored my request for XFree86 |
| 20:50.23 | Triple_access | with the cd rom |
| 20:50.26 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: it doesn't depend on gnome or kde |
| 20:50.28 | Jon_ | so you have the CD, ok |
| 20:50.44 | Triple_access | yes i can full restore it |
| 20:50.47 | Triple_access | i didt want to |
| 20:50.48 | Jon_ | triple_access : have you tried booting from the CD and formatting that way? |
| 20:50.50 | Triple_access | its getting old |
| 20:50.59 | Triple_access | hrmmm |
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| 20:51.05 | Triple_access | i can do a repair |
| 20:51.09 | Jon_ | triple_access : just boot into the windows disk and go through the installation steps |
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| 20:51.14 | Jon_ | triple_access : it will format the HDD |
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| 20:51.15 | Triple_access | that is the same thing i think |
| 20:51.17 | amorphix | if you have a router connected to a cable modem, you would normally have the router configured in dhcp client mode not static ip eh? |
| 20:51.33 | Jon_ | triple_access : no, windows can unmount its own hard drive when the computer is running from a boot disk |
| 20:51.43 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: iirc, it got removed.... i think you can still install xfree, but don't take my word for it. BTW, does you nick have anything to do with the native american nation of the similar name? |
| 20:51.48 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: :D |
| 20:51.52 | rohal | Triple_access: you must be installing some os after formatting your hard disc...so use that cd to format..... |
| 20:52.01 | Triple_access | well,, the reason is that when i start windows explorer.exe is not booting properly,, causing everything not to work |
| 20:52.10 | Kiowas | SimonRaven yup |
| 20:52.12 | Triple_access | so i end process and restart it and it works |
| 20:52.17 | TNKS_ | hi all. I'm in a class in which I need to do some schematic (logic/circuit) layouts. But I don't need a simulator, just the pictures. Is there anything good that uses the standard symbols? |
| 20:52.19 | SimonRaven | we don't care what happens in windoze |
| 20:52.22 | Triple_access | using alst control and del |
| 20:52.25 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: nice, you a member? |
| 20:52.34 | Jon_ | triple_access : As long as you're happy with losing your files, just boot into the windows CD, and go through the installation steps and format when it prompts |
| 20:52.44 | TNKS_ | I tried XFig, but it was too primitive an editor for the complexity of what I want to draw. |
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| 20:52.56 | Kiowas | SimonRaven no. I just support their struggle |
| 20:53.02 | Triple_access | yes, but i always have probelms, i am sick of formating with a cd |
| 20:53.03 | Kiowas | well, thanks alot. gotta be heading out |
| 20:53.06 | TNKS_ | Dia seemed nice, but it didn't let me connect lines/arcs to enough points on the shapes. |
| 20:53.06 | Laibsch | !hostname |
| 20:53.07 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist |
| 20:53.13 | Jon_ | AMORPHIX : you should usually configure to use Dynamic IP |
| 20:53.13 | Triple_access | i want to get to the bottome of this |
| 20:53.24 | SimonRaven | Kiowas: cool. :) |
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| 20:53.33 | Triple_access | so i want the bootup options restored facktory |
| 20:53.43 | Triple_access | explore.exe is not working |
| 20:54.01 | Jon_ | AMORPHIX : Set to DHCP, and set all the host machines to use DHCP... what distro are you running? |
| 20:54.07 | some1too | which meta package should I select for the installation of gcc and the kernel headers etc (for compiling new kernels) |
| 20:54.09 | Triple_access | windows cp sucks |
| 20:54.09 | Triple_access | windows xp sucks |
| 20:54.09 | Triple_access | lol |
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| 20:54.16 | Jon_ | True, windows sucks |
| 20:54.16 | mtnman | triple_access: this is not a windows support forum. you are severely off-topic. please take it elsewhwere. |
| 20:54.33 | Jon_ | Indeed, there are probably plenty windows forums |
| 20:54.42 | amorphix | jon_: I'm having major hassles with it, its a new router i got today.. I'm running Debian stable |
| 20:54.43 | Triple_access | as i stated before |
| 20:54.51 | tarzeau | Jon_: my windows are in walls, and they are large and they are nice |
| 20:54.56 | Triple_access | they dont know there ass from a hole in the ground |
| 20:55.01 | tarzeau | discuss more windows and doors issues in ##windows |
| 20:55.05 | mtnman | tarzeau: mine are dirty. |
| 20:55.07 | amorphix | john_: why must i setup my machines to dhcp? cant I just setup static IP's? I'm running services |
| 20:55.18 | Triple_access | you guys showed me how to formate a disk? whats wrong with that? |
| 20:55.30 | Jon_ | amorphix : yes, if you are running services use static IP, but you don't need to set the router to assign addresses statically |
| 20:55.32 | tarzeau | !format |
| 20:55.32 | dpkg | methinks format is apparently what Windows users call "mke2fs""fdisk" or both, or on floppies use superformat |
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| 20:55.53 | mtnman | triple_access: that is not of any concern. if you want advice on formatting a disk, fine, but once you start talking about windows and explorer.exe, you have crossed the line. |
| 20:55.58 | Jon_ | amorphix : basically, set the router to DHCP, but use ifconfig to set the host IP's, and then use port forwarding to open the port of the service to the computer you want |
| 20:56.00 | amorphix | jon_ understood |
| 20:56.29 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:56.36 | amorphix | jon_ I have done all that correctly then, however i'm finding my laptop keeps reconfiguring it's IP back to the old one |
| 20:56.45 | mtnman | rohal: he left the channel. |
| 20:56.48 | mhall | What is a good image viewer / slide show application? |
| 20:56.57 | PerfDave | Kuickshow! |
| 20:57.02 | Jon_ | amorphix : right. Did you configure in console? |
| 20:57.09 | Jon_ | amorphix : *terminal |
| 20:57.18 | Jon_ | amorphix : or with the GUI? |
| 20:57.21 | StanTheMan | SimonRaven: should I enable agpgart support in the kernel, even if I'll never put an AGP in the system, just a PCI vid card for text console support? |
| 20:57.25 | amorphix | jon_ up, i configured the interfaces file in konsole |
| 20:57.28 | zly | mhall: gqview :) |
| 20:57.29 | some1too | which meta package should I select for the installation of gcc and the kernel headers etc (for compiling new kernels) |
| 20:57.30 | amorphix | *yup |
| 20:58.00 | Jon_ | amorphix : right. That's quite strange. And I'm guessing you've edited etc/resolve.conf ? |
| 20:58.01 | mhall | PerfDave: thanks |
| 20:58.04 | mhall | zly: thanks |
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| 20:58.30 | amorphix | john_ I didnt touch that, it still has my nameservers in it from previously |
| 20:58.55 | StanTheMan | anyone: should I enable agpgart support in the kernel, even if I'll never put an AGP card in the system, just a PCI vid card for text console support? |
| 20:59.01 | mtnman | amorphix: did you restart networking after editing interfaces? |
| 20:59.07 | Jon_ | amorphix : OK. I tend to set the DNS to my router IP, and the router puts it forward accordingly. I don't think that will matter though. |
| 20:59.09 | SimonRaven | StanTheMan: why enable something you're not going to use, ever, on that box? |
| 20:59.14 | sussudio | StanTheMan: sure. bloat the kernel. |
| 20:59.26 | Jon_ | amorphix : that's a good point. Stop the network, the configure, then start the network again. Did you do that? |
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| 20:59.35 | amorphix | mntnman: i rebooted, i can reboot or take down my nic and it comes back up with the old IP address from previous network! |
| 20:59.42 | amorphix | its very bizarre |
| 20:59.52 | mtnman | jon_: stopping the network is not neccessary. restarting is what is needed. |
| 20:59.53 | Jon_ | indeed it is |
| 21:00.04 | StanTheMan | SimonRaven: Caution, in case the low level driver was needed just so the kernel would "play nice" with all the other children in the system chipset |
| 21:00.07 | PerfDave | StanTheMan: Why are you compiling your own kernel? |
| 21:00.12 | Jon_ | really? I thought you should usually stop the network before configuring. Excellent that makes life easier. |
| 21:00.22 | mtnman | amporhpix: which dhcp client? |
| 21:00.28 | StanTheMan | PerfDave: because I'm special ;) |
| 21:00.31 | SimonRaven | StanTheMan: agpgart isn't an essential |
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| 21:00.39 | StanTheMan | SimonRaven: k thx |
| 21:00.57 | PerfDave | StanTheMan: Then you deserve all the special problems you'll have ;) |
| 21:00.59 | StanTheMan | heh |
| 21:01.03 | amorphix | mtnman: im using a router as a dhcp client |
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| 21:01.10 | amorphix | and static IP's on my boxes |
| 21:01.16 | buu | Er, what was the command to get that x-window-system configuration dialogue regarding screen resoluion and so forth? |
| 21:01.22 | Jon_ | amorphix : hm |
| 21:01.22 | StanTheMan | PerfDave: dude I've been compiling my own kernels for a while now |
| 21:01.27 | mtnman | amorhix: and it is the static ips which are giving you trouble? |
| 21:01.31 | StanTheMan | PerfDave: never had a problem |
| 21:01.40 | amorphix | mtnman: yes indeed |
| 21:01.49 | amorphix | mtnman: well just the 1 machine |
| 21:01.50 | lightbright | StanTheMan: I used to know a kick boxer that called himself Stan the man |
| 21:01.52 | Jon_ | He says the IP's that he's setting are reverting to the old ones. |
| 21:01.59 | mtnman | amorphix: this machine is behind the router? |
| 21:02.00 | Jon_ | amorphix : Was the old network wholly on DHCP? |
| 21:02.07 | amorphix | yes its behind the router |
| 21:02.15 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: hello, how are you today? |
| 21:02.28 | amorphix | jon_ the old network was setup with Linux server as dhcp client and hubs for network |
| 21:02.29 | mtnman | amorphix: sounds like you may not have configured /etc/network/interfaces properly. |
| 21:02.29 | StanTheMan | lightbright: I was named after the 1960s hall of famer Stan "The Man" Musial |
| 21:02.34 | amorphix | with ipmasq |
| 21:02.43 | freebse | hi i got a problem, I think the kernel sorce is a broken package, I tried to install nvidia drivers and can't find kernel.h or was it kernel.c ... I tried to use slackware tgz package with it, but the drivers can't be loaded that way |
| 21:02.45 | amorphix | ok |
| 21:02.49 | amorphix | i will go over it again |
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| 21:02.54 | lightbright | StanTheMan: musial? |
| 21:03.06 | abrotman | !seen lightvision |
| 21:03.06 | dpkg | lightvision <n=light@003.a.002lg.syd.iprimus.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7d 19h 35s ago, saying: 'bucky: great :)'. |
| 21:03.14 | mtnman | amorphix: man interfaces for details |
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| 21:03.18 | fbi | freebse: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 21:03.20 | StanTheMan | lightbright: I spell it wrong? |
| 21:03.23 | lightbright | bucky: hello my frfiend |
| 21:03.24 | amorphix | thanks |
| 21:03.28 | Jon_ | amorphix : Sorry, I'm a bit stumped there. Still on my way to networkprohood xD |
| 21:03.30 | some1too | I would like to install all needed basic compiling tools (gcc). which meta selection with apt-get shall I make? |
| 21:03.43 | sussudio | !d-i some1too |
| 21:03.44 | dpkg | some1too, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:03.45 | amorphix | :-) np, i appreciate u giving me some ideas |
| 21:03.51 | sussudio | !b-e some1too |
| 21:03.52 | dpkg | some1too: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 21:03.53 | sussudio | :-| |
| 21:04.13 | Jon_ | Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for debian? |
| 21:04.17 | StanTheMan | lightbright: yep, that's the correct spelling: Musial |
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| 21:04.30 | lightbright | StanTheMan: whats that? |
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| 21:04.54 | StanTheMan | Jon_: depends on how much you want to spend on it, and what CPU archs you want optimized for |
| 21:04.57 | S4nD3r | What do I need to install to have printed 2 pages in one paper ?? |
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| 21:05.16 | StanTheMan | lightbright: i was responding to your "Musial?" question above |
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| 21:05.25 | Jon_ | StanTheMan: I'd rather it were free, and preferably x86 |
| 21:05.35 | Jon_ | i dont need ia64 |
| 21:05.46 | lightbright | Jon_: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Readers/Forum/00000431?expand_all=1 |
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| 21:05.56 | Jon_ | Lightbright: Thanks |
| 21:05.59 | StanTheMan | Jon_: You want AMD64 (i.e. opteron) suppport? |
| 21:06.00 | sbk | Not strictly debian related -- I'm looking for some sort of graphics generating command line program, to most easily solve the following problem. I have a list of timestamps, and some events that occur on these timestamps. Each event is categorized (this is the network calls made by a browser, and the event category is the connection on which the event occurs.) I want to make a sort of 'waterfall' graph, where the y-axis is time |
| 21:06.00 | sbk | , and the x-axis is the category id. I'm aware of gnuplot -- any other suggestions? |
| 21:06.06 | S4nD3r | What do I need to install to have printed 2 pages in one sheet?? |
| 21:06.11 | Jon_ | StanTheMan : No, I can do without 64 bit |
| 21:06.38 | StanTheMan | Jon_: general use, or good floating point optimization? |
| 21:06.45 | Jon_ | general use |
| 21:06.55 | bucky | Jon_, most use g++ |
| 21:07.05 | Jon_ | I program a lot of random stuff, nothing specialist |
| 21:07.05 | Jon_ | Ok, thanks v much |
| 21:07.12 | bob2 | sbk: gnuplot, probably |
| 21:07.14 | StanTheMan | Jon_: well I think you've already answered you question: GNU c++ |
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| 21:07.21 | Jon_ | Thanks |
| 21:07.23 | bob2 | Jon_: just use gcc like everyone else; install build-essential |
| 21:07.24 | andisoftman | i just need some quick advice, my sarge has an old libc6, should i update via apt-get or not? i went into dependancy hell last time i updated an imprtant package, so advice would be appreciated |
| 21:07.30 | sbk | bob2: ok -- thanks |
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| 21:07.42 | bob2 | andisoftman: uh |
| 21:07.43 | SapoCareca | Hello. I'm trying to do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" but i get a message saying e2fsprogs is in a Conflitcts/Pre-Depends loop and that I should put APT::Force-LoopBreak in my apt.conf. Since everywhere says I shouldn's what shoud I do to be able to upgrade my distro? |
| 21:07.49 | lightbright | how can I disable apache from starting every time I boot Debian? |
| 21:07.51 | cureless | andisoftman, why is your sarge libc6 old? |
| 21:07.53 | StanTheMan | is there even another free C++ compiler available? |
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| 21:07.59 | bob2 | andisoftman: if your "sarge" has an old libc6, that's a sign you're not using sarge. dist-upgrade to sarge to begin with. |
| 21:08.01 | StanTheMan | I've never heard of one.. |
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| 21:08.03 | bob2 | SapoCareca: time to upgrade to sarge |
| 21:08.06 | bob2 | lightbright: remove it |
| 21:08.12 | bob2 | lightbright: or sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*apache |
| 21:08.16 | andisoftman | cureless: it says i need to update whenever i use apt |
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| 21:08.25 | abrotman | StanTheMan: yes |
| 21:08.26 | mtnman | lightbright: update-rc.d -f apache remove |
| 21:08.32 | fbi | SapoCareca: /msg dpkg e2fsprogs loop |
| 21:08.38 | bucky | lightbright, rcconf or update-rc.d |
| 21:08.42 | lightbright | bob2: if I totally remove it, then I have to install it again if I need it in future, right? |
| 21:08.42 | guru | this is weird...acpi reports that my battery has 7 hours remaining at 100% charge, but it only lasts about 45 minutes to 1 hour |
| 21:08.55 | thematrix | Can I install a debian on a P1 |
| 21:08.55 | thematrix | ? |
| 21:08.57 | bob2 | lightbright: yes |
| 21:08.59 | andisoftman | bob2: how would i make sure it dist-upgrades to sarge though? |
| 21:09.01 | ecobit | i initially installed debian from netinst cd, then did dist-upgrade immediately. yet now, long afterwards, often after apt-get upgrade if i run apt-get dist-upgrade there are many packages it wants to upgrade |
| 21:09.08 | S4nD3r | some tools similar mpage |
| 21:09.10 | bob2 | andisoftman: point /etc/apt/sources.list at sarge, dist-upgrade |
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| 21:09.15 | lightbright | bucky: what do you mean rcconf or update-rc.d ? |
| 21:09.18 | bob2 | andisoftman: if you're unsure, paste it to #flood |
| 21:09.25 | andisoftman | bobs2: k thanks a lot |
| 21:09.27 | thematrix | Can I install a debian on a P1 |
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| 21:09.28 | thematrix | ? |
| 21:09.28 | bob2 | ecobit: and you dist-upgrade'd to...? |
| 21:09.31 | bob2 | thematrix: yes |
| 21:09.33 | lightbright | bob2: cant I just type "apt-get remove --purge apache" ? |
| 21:09.33 | abrotman | StanTheMan: for starters .. the intel compiler was(is?) free for non-commercial use |
| 21:09.35 | mtnman | lightbright: update-rc.d -f apache remove |
| 21:09.39 | SapoCareca | fbi: dpkg: need an action option |
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| 21:09.42 | bucky | lightbright, apt-get install rcconf && man rcconf |
| 21:09.43 | bob2 | thematrix: apt is very unhappy with less than 16MB of ram, tho |
| 21:09.51 | lightbright | mtnman: cant I just type "apt-get remove --purge apache" ? |
| 21:09.51 | fbi | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 21:09.51 | dpkg | i guess e2fsprogs loop is you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian testing which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:09.53 | ecobit | bob2: stable - testing - unstable |
| 21:09.54 | bob2 | lightbright: if you want all your config files to disappear, too, yes |
| 21:09.54 | thematrix | i have 64 |
| 21:10.05 | lightbright | bob2: ok |
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| 21:10.07 | bob2 | ecobit: why on earth would you have all 3 in your sources.list? |
| 21:10.17 | mtnman | lightbright: you certainly could do that, but it would have a different effect. |
| 21:10.17 | ecobit | bob2: they aren't only unstable is in there |
| 21:10.22 | lightbright | mtnman: how is update-rc.d -f apache remove different from "apt-get remove --purge apache" ? |
| 21:10.24 | abrotman | StanTheMan: freshmeat lists at least two others(depending on your search terms) |
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| 21:10.32 | SapoCareca | dpkg: my sources.list only contains a reference to an unstable repository |
| 21:10.35 | thematrix | [Bob2] I have 64 mb ram |
| 21:10.37 | bob2 | ecobit: you do know that unstable gets updates every day, right? like hundreds of megs of updates. |
| 21:10.41 | bucky | lightbright, you might as well keep apache.. you might want to read the docs in http://localhost/doc/ someday |
| 21:10.43 | bob2 | thematrix: then it's fine |
| 21:10.43 | ecobit | bob2: i went initiall from stable - testing, removed stable from sources, then testing - unstable ... |
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| 21:10.54 | lightbright | thematrix: i used to have 64 mb ram too back in 1995 :P |
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| 21:11.04 | thematrix | xDDD |
| 21:11.05 | mtnman | lightbright: the update-rc.d -f apache remove only stops the service from starting at boot time. the method you suggested will remove the package. |
| 21:11.09 | bob2 | ecobit: this is annoying, just paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood |
| 21:11.12 | possie | is there away to verify if a tar.bz2 image if correctly zipped? cause my ssh connection got interrupt while doing a tar jcvf and it's quite some data, so i want to be sure it's valid before i sent it over the wire |
| 21:11.13 | abrotman | doubtful |
| 21:11.14 | ecobit | bob2: right, but my question is why dist-upgrade still has an effect since this system should have been locked in as unstable a long time ago |
| 21:11.14 | fbi | SapoCareca: dpkg is a bot, and what do you mean 'reference' ? |
| 21:11.17 | thematrix | lightbright: is for a cache server |
| 21:11.26 | abrotman | possie: md5sum ? |
| 21:11.27 | thematrix | I have a atlhon 64 |
| 21:11.33 | lightbright | bucky: but I thought if I kept apache running, its a security risk and someone can hack into my system, no? |
| 21:11.42 | ecobit | bob2: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free plus the deb-src line. that is all |
| 21:11.42 | abrotman | !hack lightbright |
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| 21:11.44 | S4nD3r | when I use KDE i get print 2 pages in one sheet |
| 21:11.54 | fbi | lightbright == LightVision ? |
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| 21:11.58 | possie | abrotman: i was doing a backup my self, how can check my notcompressed.file against my compressedfile.bz2 via md5 ? ;-) |
| 21:12.05 | bob2 | ecobit: what on earth does "locked in as unstable" mean? |
| 21:12.07 | abrotman | possie: you can't? :) |
| 21:12.12 | bob2 | ecobit: unstable gets new updates every day of the week |
| 21:12.13 | lightbright | mtnman: ah great! thats what I wanted :) And if I ever want to start the apache service again in future, whats the command please? |
| 21:12.19 | mtnman | lightbright: if you stop apache from starting at boot, you can always start it manually whenever you need it. |
| 21:12.20 | bucky | lightbright, (1) You probably have apache2 (2) you can always turn it on and off manually with apache2ctl |
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| 21:12.25 | abrotman | fbi: of course |
| 21:12.26 | SapoCareca | fbi: sorry, silly of me... I mean: deb http://<server-addr>/pub/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 21:12.32 | bob2 | possie: you could see if it can be decompressed |
| 21:12.33 | lancelot24 | good evening everybody! |
| 21:12.34 | lancelot24 | :-) |
| 21:12.46 | bob2 | SapoCareca: no, you need yo upgrade to sarge |
| 21:12.49 | mtnman | lightbright: /etc/init.d/apache start. you probably want to read man update-rc.d |
| 21:12.51 | bob2 | SapoCareca: then you can think about using unstable |
| 21:12.56 | lancelot24 | i've downloaded the education-* packages of debian |
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| 21:13.22 | SapoCareca | bob2: how do I upgrade to sarge then? |
| 21:13.29 | lancelot24 | but i've no idea about their running and there are no man pages.could anyone help me in understanding their functioning? |
| 21:14.07 | SapoCareca | bob2: Is there a way without downloading the ISOs and doing it from the beginning? It sure is... but I don't know how... |
| 21:14.10 | mtnman | lancelot24: look in /usr/share/doc/packagename for documentation. |
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| 21:14.36 | bob2 | SapoCareca: wtf |
| 21:14.41 | mtnman | dpkg tell sapocareca about woody->sarge |
| 21:14.46 | bob2 | SapoCareca: point /etc/apt/sources.listat sarge, dist-upgrade |
| 21:14.54 | lightbright | mtnman: thanks :) thats exatly what I was after :) not removing it, but stopping it from loading as a service all the time. ty |
| 21:15.25 | bucky | no just remove it like bob2 says |
| 21:15.31 | mtnman | lightbright: you're welcome. realize, however, that if you install a new version of apache, it will change the links and start at boot time. |
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| 21:15.40 | pope | is there a portmappingtool that i can use to creates a single port that tunnels an incoming connection via a http/ssl proxy to a specific service? |
| 21:15.57 | lancelot24 | mtnman there're no useful inforations there!:-( |
| 21:15.58 | lightbright | mtnman: and how can I list all the services that start everytime? |
| 21:16.08 | bob2 | pope: the last bit made no sense |
| 21:16.14 | abrotman | no useful information ? |
| 21:16.15 | mtnman | lightbright: ls /etc/init.d |
| 21:16.17 | abrotman | !update-rc.d |
| 21:16.17 | dpkg | somebody said update-rc.d was used to manipulate what's loaded when a system boots up. Also use it instead of deleting symlinks by hand Example to add: 'update-rc.d dhcpd defaults 90'. Example to remove: 'update-rc.d -f dhcpd remove', or read "man update-rc.d" for a good intro to Debian's boot process |
| 21:16.24 | SapoCareca | bob2: Ok, trying. Sorry for the stupid questions... |
| 21:16.28 | bob2 | pope: replace "proxy" with "link"? |
| 21:16.29 | bucky | no one ever uses apache for anything especially when you can just cat and zless all those stupid readmes in /usr/share/doc |
| 21:16.36 | lightbright | mtnman: ok, but at this stage I dont even use apache at all |
| 21:16.54 | bob2 | SapoCareca: it wouldn't be stupid except that you're trying to use unstable, and not knowing this sort of thing is going to lead to your system breaking |
| 21:16.54 | kioto | good night to all |
| 21:16.54 | mtnman | lightbright: then why bother to keep it installed? |
| 21:16.56 | S4nD3r | What do I need to install to have printed 2 pages in one sheet?? |
| 21:17.00 | kioto | bye fbi |
| 21:17.01 | S4nD3r | I need to install any driver ?? |
| 21:17.01 | lightbright | mtnman: apache is only used for people running a web service isnt it? |
| 21:17.07 | bob2 | S4nD3r: psnup |
| 21:17.10 | pope | bob2, which link? |
| 21:17.10 | S4nD3r | something like mpage is installed |
| 21:17.16 | mtnman | lightbright: well, it is a web-server... |
| 21:17.19 | bob2 | pope: blah |
| 21:17.20 | abrotman | mtnman: resistance is futile .. |
| 21:17.29 | S4nD3r | I dont have this package |
| 21:17.31 | bob2 | pope: are you just trying to forward a port over an encrypted link? |
| 21:17.32 | lancelot24 | in /usr/share/doc/education-* is only written that it's a metapackage |
| 21:17.34 | bob2 | S4nD3r: ... |
| 21:17.42 | pope | yes |
| 21:17.42 | bob2 | S4nD3r: packages.debian.org, search for it |
| 21:17.49 | lightbright | mtnman: in case the future changes |
| 21:17.50 | pope | im behind a firewall an i need to reach a mysqlserver |
| 21:18.04 | abrotman | then you use the time machine .. go back to 1965 .. |
| 21:18.12 | abrotman | make your mom and dad go to the dance .. beat up biff! |
| 21:18.13 | mtnman | lancelot24: then look in the appropriate directory for the actual package. |
| 21:18.14 | pope | and there is a http proxy that supports ssl, so it can tunnel any tcp connection |
| 21:18.27 | pope | but the application doesnt support |
| 21:18.37 | lightbright | mtnman: maybe in the future I will want to run a web-server, so why totally remove it. I rather keep it on system and not loading at boot |
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| 21:18.44 | bob2 | hahaha |
| 21:18.45 | pope | so i need to create a "port-link" |
| 21:18.51 | lightbright | mtnman: it seems more logical |
| 21:19.13 | abrotman | just remove it .. install it when you need it .. people running services they don't need are the curse of the intarweb! |
| 21:19.18 | mtnman | lightbright: seems more logical to me to not install it and if you need it in the future, install it at that point. |
| 21:19.25 | lightbright | mtnman: and what about mysql, can I also stop that running at boot time too? |
| 21:19.27 | lancelot24 | mtnman there're no /usr/share/edu* directories |
| 21:19.33 | lightbright | mtnman: its already installed |
| 21:19.37 | abrotman | lancelot24: /usr/share/doc/edu* |
| 21:19.54 | mtnman | lightbright: yes. man update-rc.d. |
| 21:20.09 | S4nD3r | pdfjam - collection of PDF document handling utilities |
| 21:20.10 | S4nD3r | psutils - A collection of PostScript document handling utilities |
| 21:20.16 | lightbright | mtnman: update-rc.d -f mysql remove |
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| 21:20.19 | bob2 | S4nD3r: good work |
| 21:20.23 | S4nD3r | Ready, should Install those !! |
| 21:20.35 | mtnman | lancelot24: find out which packages the metapackage installs and read their docs. |
| 21:20.42 | bob2 | pope: apt-cache show corkscrew |
| 21:20.44 | SapoCareca | bob2: Ah, ok. So the problem was that I was using woody and was trying to upgrade to unstable, right? Now, upgrading to surge and then trying to use unstable should work, right? |
| 21:20.55 | bob2 | pope: tho the real solution, of course, is to get your firewall admin to fix it |
| 21:20.57 | bob2 | SapoCareca: yes |
| 21:21.05 | Never^ | hmm i have a problem with the apache package and php4 not getting enabled right... i install apache 1.3 and libapache-mod-php4 and php4 and other packages i need but how to enable it in apache? |
| 21:21.23 | abrotman | lancelot24: is there a particular reason you installed the educational* packages? |
| 21:21.48 | lancelot24 | yeah abrotman, 'cause i liked their descriptions |
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| 21:21.51 | abrotman | lancelot24: erm .. ok |
| 21:21.54 | S4nD3r | bob2, thanks |
| 21:22.09 | Lee__ | how would I redirect the output of a program that only knows how to send to stdout to send over a UDP port to a syslog server? |
| 21:22.20 | lightbright | mtnman: when I typed ls /etc/init.d it shows apache and apache2, but i dont have apache2 installed. Package apache2 is not installed, so not removed. Any idea why its showing? |
| 21:22.20 | SapoCareca | bob2: thank you! It's amazing how I ask question in my country's irc network and everyone starts to act like an ass, and here people simply help who needs it... it certainly reveals a lot about a country's evolution, but that I already knew... |
| 21:22.22 | bob2 | Never^: /usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-php4/README.Debian, or so |
| 21:22.25 | abrotman | Lee__: netcat ? |
| 21:22.29 | bob2 | Lee__: nc might help |
| 21:22.36 | Lee__ | thanks |
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| 21:22.48 | LSorensen | Lee__: although syslog likely will only accept things in proper syslog format |
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| 21:22.57 | mtnman | lightbright: no idea. |
| 21:22.58 | phrontist | can someone reccomend a debian package for TTF fonts? |
| 21:23.06 | phrontist | (I have no TTF fonts...) |
| 21:23.14 | abrotman | !tell phrontist about ttf |
| 21:23.14 | mtnman | phrontist: there is a debian ttf howto floating around. |
| 21:23.15 | bob2 | bitstream-vera |
| 21:23.22 | lightbright | mtnman: weird :P |
| 21:23.31 | abrotman | hehe .. bobfont factoid |
| 21:23.36 | pope | bob2, thx for corkscrew!!! that should be exactly what i was searching for!!! i just asked, but the only exception for ports higher than 1000 is 6667 for irc |
| 21:23.40 | some1too | how can I find the path to the installed package libglibl.2 ? |
| 21:23.42 | abrotman | it's because something pulled in the apache2-common package .. probably php4 |
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| 21:23.54 | Lee__ | LSorensen, I'm using syslog-ng, which seems to be able to filter on a keyword. would that matter? |
| 21:24.04 | bob2 | they allow IRC but not your database? |
| 21:24.06 | thingfish | phrontist: there's msttcorefonts if you want them, in contrib, I think. |
| 21:24.13 | bob2 | some1too: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:24.25 | LSorensen | lee: I don't know. I don't really deal with remote logging |
| 21:24.32 | Lee__ | okay, thanks. |
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| 21:24.46 | pope | bob2, i just want to backup my webdatabase |
| 21:25.11 | lightbright | mtnman: how do I load or get mysql to start as a service at each boot? |
| 21:25.15 | some1too | bob2, I am trying to compile blowfish encryption for irssi and glib-1.2.10 is needed to do this |
| 21:25.18 | pope | i know theres phpmyadmin - but with these filesizes it just works fine with mysql-admin |
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| 21:25.27 | lightbright | some1too: why use blowfish? |
| 21:25.30 | bob2 | some1too: uh |
| 21:25.36 | bob2 | some1too: anyway, it's not needed |
| 21:25.38 | some1too | bob2, and I have to mention this path in the make file |
| 21:25.54 | bob2 | some1too: sudo apt-get build-dep irssi-text |
| 21:26.02 | Nick_Hill | lightbright, blowfish is fast + fairly secure |
| 21:26.04 | bob2 | some1too: then 'apt-get source irssi-text' |
| 21:26.12 | bob2 | some1too: then edit the debian/rules file |
| 21:26.13 | tpr | i could use some starting point for debian and lvm - how about one of those infamous !tell tpr lvm thingies? :> |
| 21:26.16 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 21:26.16 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 21:26.18 | abrotman | erm . ok |
| 21:26.33 | abrotman | !tell tpr about lvm |
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| 21:26.42 | lightbright | does anyone know how do I load or get mysql to start as a service at each boot? |
| 21:26.44 | abrotman | !tell tpr about listkeys lvm |
| 21:26.45 | mtnman | lightbright: should do so automatically. |
| 21:27.21 | lightbright | mtnman: well not anymore, I typed: update-rc.d -f mysql remove . So I wanted the command in case I need to load it again in future |
| 21:27.24 | tpr | abrotman: yea thats the stuff :) |
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| 21:27.40 | abrotman | tpr: got it all? |
| 21:27.43 | bob2 | lightbright: sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults |
| 21:27.44 | Nick_Hill | lightbright, If not auto, cd /etc/rc2.d ln -s ../init.d/mysql S19mysql |
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| 21:27.51 | lightbright | bob2: thanks my friend |
| 21:28.00 | tpr | abrotman: think so, atleast a lot to read up, ill return with n+1 annoying questions later on :> |
| 21:28.06 | abrotman | yay |
| 21:28.08 | mtnman | lightbright: time for you to read man update-rc.d |
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| 21:28.17 | abrotman | mtnman: nothing in it! .. already tried! |
| 21:28.19 | lightbright | bob2: so if I ever want to load mysql, I just type "sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults" ? |
| 21:28.41 | bob2 | lightbright: no |
| 21:28.50 | bob2 | lightbright: that is how you tell it to run at boot |
| 21:28.53 | bob2 | lightbright: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop|start |
| 21:28.56 | mtnman | abrotman: what are you talking about? |
| 21:29.03 | bob2 | lightbright: and write that down, that's how all daemons get started/stopped |
| 21:29.04 | lightbright | bob2: ah great, thanks :) |
| 21:29.13 | abrotman | mtnman: you missed when she said there was nothing in the man page apparently |
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| 21:29.34 | fbi | oh, it's a she again? |
| 21:29.36 | mtnman | abrotman: well, there is plenty-o-info if i man update-rc.d at this end. |
| 21:29.38 | lightbright | bob2: im writing all commands down that I receive here! you should see my list! since being here, my list of commands is 18 pages :) |
| 21:29.43 | abrotman | mtnman: i know .. |
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| 21:30.06 | bob2 | lightbright: hehe :) |
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| 21:30.52 | some1too | bob2, I have to compile it because the compiled file is being moved to an irssi folder (which runs fine) and loaded from there on. all I need is to mention this glib-1.2.10 folder in a make file |
| 21:30.57 | tarzeau | phrontist: ttf-junicode |
| 21:31.03 | tarzeau | phrontist: and ttf-dejavu |
| 21:31.04 | Nick_Hill | lightbright, Maybe you need to get an indexed compendium of commands! |
| 21:31.12 | bob2 | some1too: I don't understand that first sentence |
| 21:31.12 | some1too | bob2, I recently installed libglibl.2 |
| 21:31.17 | tarzeau | bob2: tried ttf-dejavu? > bitstream |
| 21:31.36 | bob2 | some1too: if you want to configure irssi to use some other build option, tho, what I suggested is the simplest solution |
| 21:31.44 | tarzeau | phrontist: oh and if you want a list of all fonts, install them and run the following: www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/listfonts/ |
| 21:31.45 | lightbright | bob2: :) |
| 21:32.03 | lightbright | bob2: and at least 2 pages are commands I have learned and written down that come from YOU :) |
| 21:32.08 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 21:32.09 | dpkg | i guess refcard is http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 21:32.10 | bob2 | tarzeau: ah, neat |
| 21:32.17 | some1too | bob2, I just need to find the filder where apt placed libglibl.2 |
| 21:32.18 | lightbright | Nick_Hill: whats an indexed compendium of commands? |
| 21:32.25 | some1too | *folder* |
| 21:32.31 | tarzeau | bob2: apropos, do you know of any other tool to do the same? |
| 21:33.02 | Nick_Hill | lightbright, I am thinking that if you have 18 pages and growing, it will be difficult to work out what commands are used in which context. A good command reference may be more useful int he long run. |
| 21:33.04 | bob2 | some1too: dpkg -L libglib1.2-dev |
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| 21:33.13 | bob2 | lightbright: hah, hope I didn't make any mistakes then |
| 21:33.17 | bob2 | tarzeau: font editors? |
| 21:33.24 | tarzeau | bob2: which? |
| 21:33.29 | lightbright | Nick_Hill: I write the commands on plain form with an explantion of what the command does |
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| 21:33.39 | tarzeau | bob2: no some tool to list all fonts like in openoffice font selector |
| 21:33.45 | lightbright | bob2: no, i checked and tested every command :) you done well , all works |
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| 21:34.06 | bob2 | tarzeau: ah. xfontsel only works for X core fonts, maybe fc-list? (not graphical) |
| 21:34.33 | tarzeau | bob2: of course i wanted something graphical, yes xfontsel is not like showing you largest amount fonts to select from at once |
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| 21:34.42 | tarzeau | bob2: too much clicks to get to see something |
| 21:34.44 | bob2 | tarzeau: don't know, sorry |
| 21:34.46 | bob2 | yeah |
| 21:34.59 | tarzeau | bob2: wow, then GNUstep really is very useful, at least for this ;) |
| 21:35.28 | bob2 | hehehe |
| 21:36.06 | tarzeau | bob2: and if you look at the .st (steptalk script, it's also done very easily and elegant) |
| 21:36.23 | Never^ | well bob2 it just says that you should use the libapache-mod-php4 and it should set things up but it dosn't |
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| 21:36.40 | foo | When I close the lid of my debian sarge laptop should it suspend or do something special? |
| 21:37.02 | bob2 | tarzeau: what's steptalk? |
| 21:37.08 | Nick_Hill | foo, This depends on what type of bios you have, and whether it's implementation is broken. |
| 21:37.10 | bob2 | Never^: it doesn't mention the LoadModule lines? |
| 21:37.18 | bob2 | foo: not if it's a modern one |
| 21:37.22 | Never^ | hmm |
| 21:37.22 | tarzeau | bob2: The GNUstep Scripting Framework |
| 21:37.24 | foo | It's a dell c610 laptop |
| 21:37.30 | foo | hmm |
| 21:37.48 | Nick_Hill | foo, In general, APM works well, ACPI is variable |
| 21:37.53 | tarzeau | bob2: is a meighty powerful tool! |
| 21:37.57 | bob2 | tarzeau: ah, pimp |
| 21:37.58 | bob2 | hehe |
| 21:38.01 | tarzeau | bob2: very dangerous in the wrong hands |
| 21:38.03 | foo | Nick_Hill: Oh, ok. So I should be able to get it to work? |
| 21:38.08 | Nick_Hill | foo, APM is one method of poer management, ACPI is power management + kitchen sink |
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| 21:38.20 | bob2 | well, ACPI requires the software to tell it to suspend when the lid is closed |
| 21:38.41 | bob2 | whereas APM hardware just does it |
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| 21:39.00 | foo | ok, hmm, I'll boot up laptop now and see what it does. |
| 21:39.04 | foo | apt-get install apm ? |
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| 21:39.11 | luizcarcerelli | fdfk§ |
| 21:39.14 | bob2 | no |
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| 21:39.18 | Never^ | bob2, no it mentions how to install it as cgi but i dont want to do that |
| 21:39.19 | bob2 | apm is a hardware standard |
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| 21:39.33 | bob2 | Never^: a1<tab> |
| 21:39.36 | Nick_Hill | foo, You may use a boot parameter for the kernel to use either ACPI or APM mode. |
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| 21:39.53 | tarzeau | bob2: can you imagine an Xp:1 Tourist with Frost Brand? |
| 21:40.11 | tarzeau | err Stormbringer |
| 21:40.46 | Nick_Hill | foo, Probably a good idea to google for your laptop model + debian and suspend |
| 21:40.49 | bob2 | haha |
| 21:40.51 | bob2 | nethack hippy |
| 21:41.10 | bob2 | foo: linux-laptop.net has info for about evry laptop in the universe, might be worth a shot |
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| 21:44.38 | Nick_Hill | My favourite laptops are IBM. These tend to work well with GNU/Linux. |
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| 21:44.53 | bob2 | amen |
| 21:44.57 | citral | amen |
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| 21:46.36 | bob2 | Piggy will be happy to know I'm the proud owner of a large anti-static Wang box |
| 21:46.45 | Piggy | o_o |
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| 21:47.22 | lightbright | bob2: do you work in the IT field? |
| 21:47.38 | bob2 | lightbright: yeah, I'm a programmer |
| 21:47.46 | lightbright | bob2: what languages? |
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| 21:48.27 | bob2 | lightbright: C, python, perl, eiffel, 8051 assembler now, C++ |
| 21:48.41 | sussudio | badger, mushroom, snake |
| 21:48.47 | lightbright | bob2: cool :) so own your own company, or workl for someone else? |
| 21:48.51 | Nick_Hill | I set my father up on a year 1997 IBM laptop connected via wifi. Launches programs over wifi. Works well. |
| 21:49.13 | bob2 | hah |
| 21:49.18 | foo | Nick_Hill: When I shut the lid the screen turns off. I press a ton of keys and after a few seconds it comes back up. While the lid is down and the screen turns off.. the power light is still on, is this what suspend is supposed to do? |
| 21:49.39 | bob2 | lightbright: more the latter, tho I'm doing some contracting, too |
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| 21:50.37 | lightbright | bob2: you have ability to create your own empire and own company, then train and employ staff. ever consider that, instead of making others rich with your talents? :) after all, we live in the information age, where people as yourself with such talents can become very rich and successful "overnight" :) |
| 21:50.58 | Nick_Hill | foo, Perhaps. Different laptops operate power light differently |
| 21:51.00 | lightbright | bob2: something to ponder :) |
| 21:51.19 | bob2 | lightbright: haha |
| 21:51.33 | bob2 | foo: what sort of laptop? |
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| 21:51.38 | lightbright | bob2: perhaps I believe in you more than you believe in yourself :) |
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| 21:52.04 | foo | bob2: dell lattitude c610 |
| 21:52.10 | foo | Nick_Hill: I see |
| 21:52.19 | balzac | hello |
| 21:52.30 | SvperPhly | So guys, I have a gentoo livecd running, is there a way i can initiate a debian net install on top of it? |
| 21:52.32 | lightbright | bob2: you are just one new created or improved program away from a $1million :) |
| 21:52.49 | Nick_Hill | foo, If the hard drive turns off, the screen turns off and the laptop appears not to generate heat, then it is in a fair suspend mode. |
| 21:52.56 | bob2 | SvperPhly: find a tarball of "debootstrap" |
| 21:52.59 | fbi | SvperPhly: why not just boot a debian net installer? |
| 21:53.12 | bob2 | lightbright: I'm uncomfortable selling software, tho I do sell my time to other people to write software for them |
| 21:53.12 | mtnman | svperphly: read teh debian install guide. |
| 21:53.21 | SvperPhly | fbi: because it doesn't have the hardware support i need |
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| 21:53.41 | lightbright | bob2: are you uncomfortable selling a car or house or mobile phone? |
| 21:53.50 | fbi | SvperPhly: such as? there are other isos besides sarge. |
| 21:54.24 | mtnman | lightbright: car, phone, house are all physical goods. |
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| 21:54.27 | careFish | I'm trying to install Debian Etch, but when the installer ask me if I want to use the automatic partitioning tool, and I say that I want to use it, it won't let me, I get a red screen with a error. Could any of you guys help me out? :) |
| 21:54.37 | bob2 | lightbright: no, but if I do that, I don't have a car or a house or a phone anymore. a copy of software costs nothing and deprives me of nothing. |
| 21:54.39 | lightbright | bob2: realise that houses, cars and mobiles phones all run on software written by someone! nothing wrong with you writing a program and selling it to compaines who can use your software in houses, cars, fridges, mobiles, etc etc |
| 21:54.52 | bob2 | lightbright: I'm quite comfortable having people pay me to write software for them, tho |
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| 21:55.01 | SvperPhly | fbi: it's the adaptec 39320 hostraid junk |
| 21:55.13 | fbi | SvperPhly: doh! |
| 21:55.21 | eliteforce | apt-get installed init.d scripts for vsftp but i want to start it with xinetd, how can i disable those init scripts? |
| 21:55.22 | SvperPhly | we have tried everything with the sarge iso, and it wont pick up the disks |
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| 21:55.41 | lightbright | bob2: its not unethical to sell software to companies who then use it in hardware that improves the quality of life for others! why just focus on Linux, why not expend your horizons to other places? :) |
| 21:55.51 | bob2 | eliteforce: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*vsftpd |
| 21:55.57 | lightbright | bob2: something to ponder :) |
| 21:56.01 | lightbright | brb food time :) |
| 21:56.07 | mtnman | lighbright: go ponder. |
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| 21:56.17 | lightbright | mtnman: heh ok ;) |
| 21:56.21 | eliteforce | bob2: is there no way to just disable it, whats with the vsftpd file in /etc/init.d/? |
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| 21:56.55 | bob2 | eliteforce: wah? the command I gave you does "just disable it" |
| 21:57.00 | Nick_Hill | eliteforce, vsftp can run either stand-alone daemon mode or under (x)inetd |
| 21:57.07 | mtnman | eliteforce: sounds like you should read update-rc.d for a little background. |
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| 21:57.21 | mtnman | eliteforce: read man update-rc.d, that is... |
| 21:57.27 | shale | i notice sarge comes with exim.... should i use that or go with postfix? |
| 21:57.28 | lightbright | bob2: money is an exchange for service and value added. nothing wrong with adding value to people to help them improve their lifetyle. so you shouldnt feel uncomfortable about it ;) |
| 21:57.36 | eliteforce | mtnman: i understand :) |
| 21:57.43 | citral | shale: depends of your needs |
| 21:57.44 | mtnman | shale: unless you need something that postfix offers... |
| 21:58.10 | shale | i need a basic small business email server, 200 or so users, imap, pop3, mailman, the basics. |
| 21:58.11 | lightbright | bob2: you can write free stuff for Linux and sell software to other companies to use your programs in other areas |
| 21:58.16 | lightbright | brb :) |
| 21:58.41 | darkskiez | im looking at the apt.conf man page, and i cant quite figure out if i've got the right thing for apt.conf: Aquire::http::timeout 10; |
| 21:58.47 | bob2 | lightbright: that is the plan |
| 21:58.50 | darkskiez | does that make sense? |
| 21:59.00 | careFish | So no-one can help me out? :( |
| 21:59.01 | mtnman | lightbright: sounds like you should worry about your own situation. bob2 seems to have things under control. |
| 21:59.02 | bob2 | shale: exim4 is fine (as is postfix) |
| 21:59.06 | eliteforce | and how can i disable the the "normal" ftp ports, cause i'd like to just use sftp? |
| 21:59.20 | shale | so either would do the trick... are there better tools out there for admin'ing one over the other? |
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| 21:59.30 | citral | eliteforce: man vsftpd.conf |
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| 21:59.43 | lightbright | bob2: great :) for if I had your talents and ability in all those languages, I would make the most of it and create a plan how I can improve the quality of life for others and sell it to companies for millions :) |
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| 21:59.58 | irevernetReveren | I have a pair of drives (/dev/hdi and /dev/hdj) that are connected to the first IDE channel of my second Promise 20269. They show up in dmesg, but I cannot cfdisk or otherwise access them. The 4 harddrives on my first Promise 20269 Pci-ide controllers work. lspci shows 2 "Unknown mass storace controller : promis technology, 20269", and lsmod shows both pdc202xx_new and pdc202xx_old loaded, and used by "0 [permenant]" any suggestions on how to regain ac |
| 22:00.09 | lightbright | mtnman: keep your nose out when you dont understand the intent, nobody is worried, just talking in general and encouragement |
| 22:00.10 | bob2 | eliteforce: sftp is entirely unrelated to ftp, aside from the name |
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| 22:00.14 | lightbright | now im going for 20 mins, bye |
| 22:00.16 | bob2 | eliteforce: the ssh daemon does sftp |
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| 22:00.54 | mtnman | internetreveren: cfdisk /dev/hdx (replace x with relevant letter) does not work? |
| 22:01.06 | slicslak | gentoo has a init.d/local for starting user added stuff, and conf.d.local.[start|stop] for specifying said stuff. does debian have something similar? |
| 22:01.16 | mtnman | lightbright: well you are off-topic and annoying. |
| 22:01.24 | eliteforce | bob2: so i dont need vsftp for sftp? |
| 22:01.26 | Nick_Hill | amen |
| 22:01.37 | bob2 | eliteforce: correct |
| 22:01.39 | bob2 | slicslak: a) pick one channel, b) /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 22:01.42 | irevernetReveren | mtnman "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive. Press any key to exit cfdisk." |
| 22:01.43 | lightbright | mtnman: you are free to use the ignore command |
| 22:01.44 | eliteforce | bob2: oh :D hehe |
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| 22:01.49 | mtnman | lightbright: and if you want to have a private conversation, go to a private channel. |
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| 22:01.57 | lightbright | mtnman: are you an OP here? |
| 22:02.11 | mtnman | lightbright: i fail to see the relevance of your last question. |
| 22:02.18 | fbi | lightbright: the ignore function doesn't help when you come back in here using aliases |
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| 22:02.42 | lightbright | fbi: I have used 2 nicks, because I lost my password for the first! thats all |
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| 22:02.50 | lightbright | anyway, brb |
| 22:04.01 | irevernetReveren | mtnman any suggestions |
| 22:04.02 | irevernetReveren | ? |
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| 22:04.30 | mtnman | irevernetreveren: not really |
| 22:04.47 | irevernetReveren | that's ok, I was hoping someone could help here... |
| 22:04.50 | jan_ | RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^bla\.kerbje\.be$ |
| 22:04.50 | jan_ | RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ /bla/$1 [L] |
| 22:04.55 | vmx | hi! can i get old source patches of debian packages somewhere? |
| 22:04.58 | jan_ | anyone knows why the $1 trick isn't working? |
| 22:05.17 | mtnman | irevernetrevern: what exact command did you type? |
| 22:05.29 | irevernetReveren | "cfdisk /dev/hdi" |
| 22:05.32 | Nick_Hill | irevernetReveren, Perhaps the problem is that two modules are vying for the same resource. You say yu have two promise 202 modules. |
| 22:05.41 | careFish | Hey people! |
| 22:05.45 | shale | how can i boot into my debian system with just networking running but no services? (i want to rsync a backup image to it) |
| 22:05.52 | bob2 | vmx: snapshot.debian.net has some |
| 22:05.55 | careFish | Can no-one help me or what? |
| 22:05.57 | bob2 | vmx: bit with a big gap, sadly |
| 22:06.01 | darkskiez | jan: that in .htaccess ? |
| 22:06.05 | mtnman | irevernetreveren: well, try /dev/hda or /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd |
| 22:06.16 | jan_ | darkskiez: ye |
| 22:06.16 | irevernetReveren | Nick_Hill yeah, thats what i am susspecting... It worked before i re-installed on this system, though, so i know it CAN work... |
| 22:06.18 | jan_ | s |
| 22:06.18 | bob2 | careFish: you checked that the CD was ok? |
| 22:06.19 | mtnman | where did you get /dev/hdi? |
| 22:06.33 | irevernetReveren | mtnman all of them work except the 2 drives in question |
| 22:06.34 | bob2 | vmx: archive.debian.org has all of them that were ever in a release |
| 22:06.43 | darkskiez | jan_ will it not keep matching /bla and adding another and another over and over again? |
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| 22:07.05 | mtnman | irevernetreveren: how many ide channels in your machine? |
| 22:07.05 | careFish | bob2: yea, it was a good working disc according to the install. |
| 22:07.11 | Nick_Hill | irevernetReveren, Have you tried rmmod to each module in turn? |
| 22:07.21 | jan_ | darkskiez: possibly, but how should i do it then? :( |
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| 22:07.47 | irevernetReveren | mtnman: i have ide0 to ide5, hdi is the first device on ide4 |
| 22:08.01 | irevernetReveren | Nick_Hill trying that now |
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| 22:08.05 | smagy2 | hello folks, i tried to use modconf to disable certain modules from loading at boot time. but doesn't seem to be able to do that. may be i am doing something wrong. would appreciate some help |
| 22:08.06 | darkskiez | jan_: i had this same problem the other day, i solved it by doing an earlier rule that matches say /bla, and rewriting it so it was the same, as it was unchanged, it didnt try and re-evalute it all over again. |
| 22:08.09 | jan_ | darkskiez: i only have .htaccess |
| 22:08.16 | mtnman | irenrnetreveren: have you checked dmesg to make sure the disks were recognized? |
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| 22:08.20 | jan_ | darkskiez: hmm |
| 22:08.34 | bob2 | smagy2: that's unlikely to do anything at all |
| 22:08.35 | darkskiez | jan_: i think you have less problems if u put it into the apache config rather than in htaccess |
| 22:08.37 | irevernetReveren | mtnman yeah, hdi and hdj show in dmesg, but otherwise are unresponsive |
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| 22:08.45 | bob2 | smagy2: assuming they're modules for pci, usb or pcmica devices |
| 22:08.47 | smagy2 | bob2: oh |
| 22:08.54 | Nick_Hill | smagy2, If you have hotplug it will try to load modules for everything. |
| 22:09.05 | Tortel | http://www.e-cuerpos.com/produtos.php?sub=6 <=- o m g |
| 22:09.13 | smagy2 | Nick_Hill: oh |
| 22:09.19 | jan_ | darkskiez: the problem is, the url cannot change to http://host.tld/bla , it must be http://bla.host.tld :-) |
| 22:09.20 | irevernetReveren | Nick_Hill "ERROR: Removing 'pdc202xx_old': Device or resource busy |
| 22:09.21 | irevernetReveren | " |
| 22:09.21 | careFish | bob2: I have a screenshot for you with partition magic. |
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| 22:09.33 | sussudio | Tortel: is there a reason you're posting urls in here? |
| 22:09.34 | bob2 | smagy2: you can blacklist modules in /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 22:09.42 | careFish | bob2: shall I post the url here? or in a pm? |
| 22:09.42 | Tortel | not really.... |
| 22:09.45 | bob2 | careFish: that's not likely to be useful, sorry |
| 22:09.46 | smagy2 | bob2: they are drivers for event recongnization, joystick etc which i don't need |
| 22:09.51 | irevernetReveren | Nick_Hill same for pdc202xx_new |
| 22:09.56 | careFish | >:[ |
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| 22:10.15 | kala21 | hiii |
| 22:10.19 | darkskiez | jan_: why would the url change all of a sudden ? |
| 22:10.23 | Nick_Hill | irevernetReveren, are you using hotplug? |
| 22:10.29 | interbird | Thanks |
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| 22:10.35 | careFish | bob2: it may be usefull that the system I'm trying to install it on is a laptop. |
| 22:10.37 | vmx | bob2: thanks (sadly the one i want seems to be in that gap) |
| 22:10.38 | mtnman | irevernetreveren: you may not have the appropriate devices in /dev/. mine only goes up to /dev/hdh |
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| 22:10.46 | careFish | ASuS Z9200U |
| 22:10.49 | bob2 | vmx: ah, dang |
| 22:10.49 | sussudio | kala21: are you going to spam us? |
| 22:10.54 | smagy2 | Nick_Hill: if i was using hotplug would there be a daemon running all the time or only during bootup |
| 22:11.13 | bob2 | careFish: all I can suggest is to file a bug, sorry (or maybe try noapic, acpi=off and/or nolapic as kernel command line options) |
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| 22:11.26 | bob2 | smagy2: hotplug gets invoked by the kernel when things get plugged in (And once at boot) |
| 22:11.32 | bob2 | or did, until udev ate it |
| 22:11.41 | smagy2 | bob2: i see. |
| 22:11.46 | irevernetReveren | Nick_Hill not sure, how do i check if i am using hotplug? and good call on only haveing up to hdh in /dev.... how do i add 2 more? |
| 22:11.47 | kethinov | does anyone know a way without acquiring root for user1 to grant read/write perms to a file he owns to user2 exclusively; meaning not chmod 777 and giving all users r/w |
| 22:11.56 | smagy2 | bob2 and Nick_Hill thanks for all the help really appreciate it |
| 22:12.01 | mtnman | man makedev |
| 22:12.15 | Nick_Hill | np |
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| 22:12.39 | careFish | bob2: Could you tell me how to set command line options? (Sorry for that question, I am new to linux) |
| 22:12.41 | mtnman | inrevernetreveren: i would bet that if you create the appropriate devices, your problem will be solved. |
| 22:12.47 | darkskiez | kethinov: the user2 can claim the file for himself if he has write access to the directory and read access to the file. |
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| 22:12.58 | Nick_Hill | irevernetReveren, You may notice it at boot up, or see the hotplug script in /etc/init.d |
| 22:12.59 | irevernetReveren | mtnman i am thinking that is correct, looking at man makedev now... |
| 22:13.18 | kethinov | darkskiez, can you ellaborate on that? |
| 22:13.24 | jan_ | darkskiez: because i'm rewriting it :P |
| 22:13.32 | bob2 | careFish: when it first boots, it should give you a splash screen, and a prompt |
| 22:13.46 | careFish | yea, it asks to push enter |
| 22:13.47 | bob2 | careFish: hitting f1, f2 etc should give you some help screens |
| 22:13.48 | jan_ | darkskiez: look, *.host.tld and host.tld have /home/host/ |
| 22:13.49 | careFish | or F1 |
| 22:13.56 | careFish | ah ok thanks bob2 |
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| 22:14.25 | jan_ | darkskiez: now, if i goto bla.host.tld , i want to end up into /home/host/bla |
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| 22:14.35 | SvperPhly | does anyone know if the adaptec 39320 is supported on the sarge net install? |
| 22:14.37 | mtnman | irevernetreveren: good luck. i've got to go... |
| 22:14.41 | jan_ | darkskiez: and all that using a .htaccess file |
| 22:14.48 | darkskiez | jan_: modrewrite doesnt magically acheive that. |
| 22:14.51 | irevernetReveren | mtnman thanks |
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| 22:14.55 | mtnman | welcome |
| 22:15.25 | jan_ | darkskiez: i know, and i'm trying to find out how it *will* work magically :-) |
| 22:15.39 | darkskiez | jan_: unless you have access to where http://bla.host.tld/ docroot is, you cant do it. |
| 22:15.40 | tarzeau | !icaza |
| 22:16.27 | jan_ | darkskiez: *.host.tld and host.tld have the same docroot: /home/host/ |
| 22:16.39 | darkskiez | jan_: got you. |
| 22:16.52 | michael__ | bob2: are you willing to help me out with this blowfish irssi encryption? I'm still stuck with it... I'm not able to specify the path/to glib.... is it installed correctly? |
| 22:17.01 | jan_ | darkskiez: :-) |
| 22:17.52 | bob2 | michael__: this is because you ignored me |
| 22:18.09 | darkskiez | jan_: try adding above, a copy the same condition and: RewriteRule ^/bla/(.*)$ /bla/$1 [L] |
| 22:18.24 | SvperPhly | Has anyone any knowledge of getting an adaptec 39320 to work with a netinstall disc? |
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| 22:18.35 | darkskiez | jan_: not guaranteed to work. i've only done rewrite stuff once :) |
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| 22:20.12 | michael__ | bob2: hehe, maybe. but let me show you a nice link first. http://fish.sekure.us . this is where I am trying to get it done with irssi. I just downloaded the source package, followed the MIRACL steps mentioned in the readme und all I need to do anymore is making and compiling the desired .so file to place this in the appropiate irssi plugins directory |
| 22:20.12 | Nick_Hill | SvperPhly, Are you using the 39320 for the CD drive? |
| 22:20.22 | SvperPhly | nope Nick_Hill |
| 22:20.31 | SvperPhly | cd drive is ata |
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| 22:20.39 | luddite | hey all how do i verify that i've got dma working on my devices |
| 22:20.45 | luddite | i did hdparm and it's crap |
| 22:20.49 | luddite | for mb/sec |
| 22:20.54 | luddite | is there a module? |
| 22:21.08 | PerfDave | luddite: hdparm is how you verify that you've got dma working on your devices. |
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| 22:21.25 | luddite | ok... hmm |
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| 22:21.34 | luddite | how do i make it work? |
| 22:21.43 | mtnman | !tell luddite about dma |
| 22:21.47 | Nick_Hill | SvperPhly, Will the adapter run under Knoppix? |
| 22:21.54 | SvperPhly | it will under gentoo |
| 22:22.00 | SvperPhly | havn't tried knoppix |
| 22:22.06 | luddite | i did the /msg dpkg hdparm thing already |
| 22:22.08 | amorphix | never drink tea before bed |
| 22:22.15 | amorphix | keeps you awake all nite |
| 22:22.20 | luddite | I know how to config hdparm.conf |
| 22:22.30 | luddite | after i go through all the permutations... |
| 22:22.35 | luddite | it's kb/sec |
| 22:22.39 | luddite | not mb/sec |
| 22:22.40 | amorphix | knoppix sounds like an anti-depressant med |
| 22:22.44 | Nick_Hill | SvperPhly, If it runs under knoppix, create partitions, mkfs, debootstrap, chroot etc |
| 22:22.53 | tremor | SvperPhly: some google-hits say, that trying with the linux26 could posibly help, if the standard 2.4 fails |
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| 22:22.58 | SvperPhly | can i debboot strap from gentoo? |
| 22:23.05 | hardwire | ugh.. |
| 22:23.08 | SvperPhly | tremor: tried them both.. :( |
| 22:23.08 | hardwire | speaking of debootstrap |
| 22:23.09 | luddite | that would be celexa,fluoxetine, buspirone.. knoppix is a kick in the pants |
| 22:23.11 | hardwire | why.. oh why.. |
| 22:23.18 | hardwire | does debootstrap of sarge.. use testing sources? |
| 22:23.20 | amorphix | gentoo sounds like a chest vapour rub |
| 22:23.31 | amorphix | hehe |
| 22:23.42 | luddite | gentoo.... a pleasant suppository |
| 22:23.47 | amorphix | haha yes |
| 22:23.50 | luddite | it's gentoo |
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| 22:24.07 | luddite | i think there's a deb package gentoo |
| 22:24.07 | Nick_Hill | SvperPhly, Probably not through gentoo emerge, as debootstrap is a debian-specific tool. |
| 22:24.22 | luddite | yes |
| 22:24.34 | SvperPhly | round and round i go :( |
| 22:24.34 | luddite | there's a gentoo package, some kind of user interface |
| 22:24.36 | PerfDave | One of cdebootstrap and debootstrap is designed for use on non-Debian systems. |
| 22:24.37 | michael__ | bob2: do you know how to solve my problem? I'm quite sure u do :) |
| 22:24.54 | cappiz | can someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server? |
| 22:25.12 | luddite | ok... my latest research says this hd should be screaming at 24-32mb/sec with kernel 2.6+ and i'm running super slow |
| 22:25.20 | luddite | i did the hdparm |
| 22:25.25 | luddite | any suggestions? plz |
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| 22:25.40 | Nick_Hill | SvperPhly, Or there are other debian-based bootable CDs which may have debootstrap; Mepis, Ubuntu live CD plus several others. |
| 22:25.45 | PerfDave | luddite: Does hdparm tell you that DMA is enabled? |
| 22:25.52 | jan_ | darkskiez: i already tried that, but then the URL changes |
| 22:25.55 | amorphix | i hate it when things dont go smoothly |
| 22:26.05 | mtnman | caqppiz: seems like camstream may be what you want. |
| 22:26.15 | amorphix | sometimes technology can drive you to the edge of dispare |
| 22:26.48 | careFish | bob2: acpi=off didn't work either.. |
| 22:27.01 | SvperPhly | how do i use debootstrap? |
| 22:27.10 | careFish | Bye now. |
| 22:27.22 | thingfish | hehe amorphix |
| 22:27.23 | jan_ | darkskiez: RewriteRule ^/?(.*)$ /bla/$1 [R] |
| 22:27.31 | mtnman | amorphix: and occaisionally to despair. |
| 22:27.50 | jan_ | darkskiez: that will modify the url to http://host.tld/bla/$file if i goto http://bla.host/tld/$file |
| 22:27.56 | Nick_Hill | debootstrap [OPTION]... SUITE TARGET [MIRROR [SCRIPT]] |
| 22:28.15 | amorphix | yes |
| 22:28.17 | luddite | does anyone know of a tool that converts *.png to vector drawings someone can use in a program saay photoshop illustrator? |
| 22:28.20 | tremor | is the kernel 2.6.8 from sarge noted for probs with some orinoco based pcmcia wlan cards? |
| 22:28.23 | amorphix | i failed english, what can i say |
| 22:28.29 | hardwire | luddite: place image.. in illustrator. |
| 22:28.29 | pipeline | luddite: Not in any useful way. |
| 22:28.31 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:28.35 | bbrazil | luddite: convert. good luck, you'll need it |
| 22:28.44 | pipeline | luddite: Rasterizing is easy. De-rasterizing is nearly impossible. Don't bother. |
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| 22:28.53 | PerfDave | tremor: No |
| 22:28.58 | luddite | man |
| 22:28.59 | Nick_Hill | SvperPhly, So mount your clean partition on, say /mnt/hda1 then do debootstrap stable /mnt/hda1 http://favourite.deb.mirror |
| 22:29.00 | amorphix | if you buy crap, you can expect crap results from it |
| 22:29.04 | hardwire | luddite: if you have a raster.. and want to use it in a vector suite.. its up to the vector suite to support the raster image |
| 22:29.13 | luddite | aah |
| 22:29.17 | hardwire | I really wish you good luck in using a graphics program if you can't grok that. |
| 22:29.29 | darkskiez | jan: if u use R, yes |
| 22:29.30 | tremor | PerfDave: ok, thank you. |
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| 22:29.51 | darkskiez | jan: perhaps you need the RewriteBase in there |
| 22:29.54 | hardwire | Nick_Hill: stable isn't a suite |
| 22:29.56 | PerfDave | tremor: I've used Sarge's default kernel with three or four different orinoco-based cards, and had no problems. |
| 22:29.56 | hardwire | sarge is |
| 22:29.59 | hardwire | sid is |
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| 22:30.10 | hardwire | unfortunatly you may run into the same problem I am having |
| 22:30.11 | luddite | do you know of a format that gimp supports that illustrator can convert or a program in linux that is on par with illustrator? |
| 22:30.29 | zinx | luddite: try svg, and anything that reads/writes svgs |
| 22:30.30 | hardwire | luddite: I am pretty sure adobe has a list of raster image file formats it supports |
| 22:30.36 | zinx | luddite: gimp is not a vector editor |
| 22:31.04 | hardwire | man debootstrap is torqing me off |
| 22:31.12 | tremor | PerfDave: i'm trying to get my elsa-card working, but getting errors like: invalid argument "key". |
| 22:31.14 | thingfish | Inkscape is, maybe that would work. |
| 22:31.30 | PerfDave | tremor: What are you doing that's giving you that error? :) |
| 22:31.32 | dondelelcaro | hardwire: what is the problem? |
| 22:31.36 | Nick_Hill | hardwire, Yes. my mistake. debootstrap sarge /mnt/hda1 http://favourite.deb.mirror |
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| 22:31.44 | tremor | but i think, the problem is the hardware |
| 22:32.28 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: sarge is stable correct? |
| 22:32.32 | dondelelcaro | hardwire: yes. |
| 22:32.39 | mtnman | hey don |
| 22:32.43 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: sup |
| 22:32.47 | hardwire | yet when I spec that as the debootstrap suite.. it goes on via base-config/apt-select to use testing sources |
| 22:32.54 | Nick_Hill | SvperPhly, once the base system is installed with debootstrap, chroot into the distro then run tasksel. Make sure the bootloader has configured + installed. Reboot into your new system. |
| 22:33.00 | hardwire | and I just want somebody to assure me I am not insane. |
| 22:33.06 | luddite | thankyou for the help on the format for vector images |
| 22:33.12 | dondelelcaro | hardwire: uh, no, it shouldn't. What is the exact command that you're using? |
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| 22:33.27 | mtnman | don: not a whole lot. did you happen to read the sample chapter from http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources2/ ? |
| 22:33.36 | luddite | back to hdparm... i did my custom settings and i went from 800kb/sec to 12.48 mb/sec |
| 22:33.45 | luddite | hdparm -tT /dev/hda |
| 22:33.47 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Aren't there some odd bits of debootstrap that do that? ISTR seeing the same when I debootstrapped sarge. |
| 22:33.54 | tremor | PerfDave: got this, when i tried to use kwifimanager |
| 22:33.54 | amorphix | how safe are router firewalls |
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| 22:34.01 | luddite | is there a different test? and how do i verify that dma is working again? |
| 22:34.02 | bob2 | michael__: uh, yes, do what I said an hour ago? |
| 22:34.11 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 sarge rootfs http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian |
| 22:34.18 | PerfDave | luddite: hdparm will tell you whether DMA is enabled. |
| 22:34.26 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: it's possible, but it really shouldn't be doing that; worst case, just use stable instead of sarge. |
| 22:34.35 | tremor | PerfDave: simple iwconfig cmds seem to work but i get no connection |
| 22:34.36 | luddite | which option? |
| 22:34.40 | luddite | hdparm -? |
| 22:34.41 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: after running base-config it sets up the apt repos to use testing |
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| 22:34.52 | hardwire | .. Get:1 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main libc6 2.3.5-6 [4931kB] and so forth |
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| 22:34.59 | PerfDave | tremor: I've not used kwifimanager, just wireless-tools and /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:35.13 | tekki | hi all!! |
| 22:35.15 | thingfish | hey I just noticed - no spambots. |
| 22:35.25 | dondelelcaro | hardwire: that's just base-config; you don't need to run it. Just run apt-setup or similar, and configure it to use stable. |
| 22:35.33 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: and I am using debootstrap ala unstable sources.. to make sure I have an up to date package that may recognize the suite |
| 22:35.37 | tekki | i need a little help on installing debian on a toshiba m40 laptop |
| 22:35.43 | thingfish | probably all at some international spambot convention. |
| 22:35.47 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: hmmm.. ok |
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| 22:36.11 | luddite | i'll help you tekki |
| 22:36.19 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: btw.. whats with the pty issues in base-config? |
| 22:36.23 | tekki | ya thank a lot! |
| 22:36.25 | tremor | PerfDave: kwifimanager was only a dired try. |
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| 22:36.35 | plAnadecU | hi |
| 22:36.37 | dondelelcaro | hardwire: which pty issues? |
| 22:36.45 | tekki | i have this first problem |
| 22:36.50 | tekki | the disk controller |
| 22:36.53 | plAnadecU | anyone can tell me how do i know the extern ip of a system |
| 22:36.54 | hardwire | base-config ending with "Terminated" when it runs /usr/sbin/script |
| 22:36.55 | dondelelcaro | hardwire: it may be complaining about /dev/pty not being mounted, because it probably isn't in your chroot |
| 22:37.01 | hardwire | yeh |
| 22:37.02 | luddite | do you have debian iso #? cd/dvd? and do you have wireless conneciton/cable/modem |
| 22:37.09 | dondelelcaro | but again, you don't even need to run base-config |
| 22:37.12 | mtnman | p1anadecu: ifconfig |
| 22:37.16 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: well.. MAKEDEV generic worked in replacing those :) |
| 22:37.25 | tremor | PerfDave: but i'll try another card next days and will decide later |
| 22:37.27 | hardwire | yes.. I am a doof. |
| 22:37.31 | thingfish | well yay! for Piggy then. |
| 22:37.43 | tekki | i have the standard 3.1 iso cd |
| 22:37.53 | plAnadecU | anyone can tell me how do i know the extern ip of a system, i just get the local ip |
| 22:37.55 | tekki | only the first cd but is not a problem |
| 22:37.55 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: hrm.. haven't read that yet |
| 22:37.58 | irevernetReveren | Nick_Hill, adding those 2 /dev/ s worked, just so you know. thanks for your help. |
| 22:38.00 | dondelelcaro | !myip |
| 22:38.00 | dpkg | methinks myip is /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr" | sed -e 's/^.*inet addr://' -e 's/ .*$//', or ifconfig eth0 | awk '/inet addr:/{sub"addr:","";print $2}', or hostname -i, or "ip a s eth0 | grep inet | cut -d' ' -f6", or /sbin/ifconfig eth0|perl -ne 'if /addr:s*(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+)/ {print qq|$1\n|}', or wget -O- checkip.dyndns.org 2>/dev/null|perl -pe 's/.+Address:\ [d\.]+\<.+/$1/;' |
| 22:38.01 | mtnman | p1anadecu: ifconfig |
| 22:38.01 | tekki | i got a 10Mbit connection |
| 22:38.15 | plAnadecU | dondelelcaro OK |
| 22:38.23 | dondelelcaro | (you want the last one) |
| 22:38.32 | tekki | i need to make an iso cd with the 2.6.12 kernel i think |
| 22:38.40 | tekki | isn't it? |
| 22:38.48 | Nick_Hill | irevernetReveren, no problem. Thanks for the feedback. |
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| 22:39.22 | amorphix | i cannot even ssh to my box |
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| 22:39.45 | mtnman | amorphix: is there a question in there? |
| 22:39.51 | amorphix | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.3 port 22: Connection timed out |
| 22:39.55 | luddite | ok have you successfully booted and installed already? are you working with the laptop now? |
| 22:39.56 | amorphix | heh |
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| 22:40.11 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: hah.. apt-select is selecting testing |
| 22:40.18 | amorphix | what should I check? |
| 22:40.20 | scorpix_ | how can i add Arabic support to xxkb? |
| 22:40.20 | mtnman | amorphix: are you sure sshd is running on said box? |
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| 22:40.28 | hardwire | err |
| 22:40.30 | hardwire | apt-setip |
| 22:40.32 | amorphix | yeah, i just went to the box and typed ssh |
| 22:40.44 | amorphix | im being blocked tho |
| 22:40.45 | PerfDave | amorphix: That doesn't mean that sshd is running on the box :) |
| 22:40.47 | tekki | so, not with my llaptop, i work with debian and installed it many time...but not on my laptop :) |
| 22:40.48 | mtnman | amorphix: ssh does not set up sshd by default, iirc |
| 22:41.00 | Bac9 | I can get a grub diskette to boot fine in qemu, but on real hardware it gives "GRUB GRUB GRUB " ad infinitum, can someone help? (yes I tried #grub, noone there answers) |
| 22:41.04 | amorphix | PerfDave: does it if I can connect to the box from the box's shell? |
| 22:41.26 | tekki | im on the laptop now, but on xp :( |
| 22:41.35 | mtnman | amorphix: ps aux|grep sshd |
| 22:41.35 | luddite | i'm not guru but i've installed debian on 2 laptops this past weekend |
| 22:41.39 | amorphix | ok |
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| 22:41.58 | amorphix | i think my hosts.allow/deny may be a little funky |
| 22:42.06 | amorphix | in terms of the ip address setup |
| 22:42.08 | stew | !myip =~ s#\[d\\\.\]#([\\d\\.]+)# |
| 22:42.08 | dpkg | stew: that doesn't contain '\[d\\\.\]' |
| 22:42.12 | mtnman | amorphix: ps aux|grep sshd will tell you if sshd is running |
| 22:42.13 | stew | yes it does |
| 22:42.17 | luddite | well, i'd install with boot option linux26 or expert26 is your upto expert |
| 22:42.25 | amorphix | i will check that first then brb |
| 22:42.31 | tekki | somy problem for the moment is that the kernel image shipped with the standard iso cd lack of some modules needed by the sata controller |
| 22:42.40 | luddite | stay stable until you have installed all of your essential programs and devices successfully |
| 22:42.48 | tekki | no success with expert26 |
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| 22:42.58 | cappiz | can someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server? |
| 22:42.59 | luddite | testing and especially sid was breaking on me |
| 22:43.22 | luddite | strange... what was your error? |
| 22:43.34 | Matthew_I | can anyone think of a reason why tls would be going slow with exim4? |
| 22:43.43 | tekki | i cant see the harddrive |
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| 22:43.57 | amorphix | yup, i have sshd running |
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| 22:44.39 | tekki | i'm sure that with the latest kernel all works fine |
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| 22:44.54 | tekki | ubuntu, mandriva, suse and fedora works fine |
| 22:44.55 | hladmonjay | a |
| 22:45.13 | hladmonjay | can anyone help me with ethereal |
| 22:45.19 | tekki | right now i've suse.......but is very slow.... :( |
| 22:45.39 | amorphix | so... i have sshd running but cannot connect to it |
| 22:46.02 | mtnman | amorphix: what was the output of ps aux|grep sshd? |
| 22:46.04 | PerfDave | tekki: I believe that there is a third-party Sarge installer with a 2.6.12 or so kernel on available, but I can't remember where and it's not supported here. Might be worth a go :) |
| 22:46.07 | plAnadecU | how does that woer!myip |
| 22:46.11 | plAnadecU | !myip |
| 22:46.11 | dpkg | somebody said myip was /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr" | sed -e 's/^.*inet addr://' -e 's/ .*$//', or ifconfig eth0 | awk '/inet addr:/{sub"addr:","";print $2}', or hostname -i, or "ip a s eth0 | grep inet | cut -d' ' -f6", or /sbin/ifconfig eth0|perl -ne 'if /addr:s*d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+/ {print qq|$1n|}', or wget -O- checkip.dyndns.org 2>/dev/null|perl -pe 's/.+Address:\ [\\d\\.]+\\<.+/$1/;' |
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| 22:46.20 | mtnman | perfdave: maybe progeny? |
| 22:46.27 | plAnadecU | the last script doesn't parse the shit |
| 22:46.30 | plAnadecU | anyone can try ? |
| 22:46.38 | tekki | sure? :) |
| 22:46.42 | PerfDave | mtnman: Nah, it was a Debian installer, on people.debian.org somewhere IIC |
| 22:46.45 | thingfish | !ale |
| 22:46.45 | dpkg | methinks ale is the sweetest nectar known to mankind, or best brewed and consumed locally. |
| 22:46.50 | mtnman | planadecu: and what is the problem with ifconfig? |
| 22:46.52 | aladninx | does debian come with iwconfig and have support for texas instrument wireless cards? |
| 22:46.58 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:47.12 | tekki | but is not so difficult to insert the 2.6.12 kernel in the iso isn't it? |
| 22:47.25 | luddite | hmm, in the testing install cd does it give the option to use 2.6.12? |
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| 22:47.36 | amorphix | mtnman: root 3373 0.0 0.6 3652 1576 ? Ss 20:48 |
| 22:47.36 | PerfDave | aladninx: Debian has iwconfig in wireless-tools though you'll rarely want to use it directly. |
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| 22:47.42 | luddite | i haven't used it, and i'm to lazy to download it |
| 22:47.56 | stew | plAnadecU: wget -O- checkip.dyndns.org 2>/dev/null|perl -pe 's/.+Address: ([\d\.]+)\<.+/$1/;' |
| 22:47.58 | tekki | ....i can ty it.... |
| 22:48.05 | plAnadecU | why ? |
| 22:48.10 | tekki | try |
| 22:48.26 | aladninx | PerfDave what would you suggest using? i just want to be able to throw it in the closet and not have connection issues with it, i had many with woody but i had to use 3rd party software then |
| 22:48.27 | cureless | myip = 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:48.29 | stew | plAnadecU: dpkg is missing the ()'s |
| 22:48.39 | plAnadecU | does the result differs from wget -O- checkip.dyndns.org 2>/dev/null | cat |
| 22:48.43 | plAnadecU | ? |
| 22:48.49 | PerfDave | aladninx: Debian's wireless-tools package integrates iwconfig into the standard /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:48.51 | stew | plAnadecU: the one i gave you will |
| 22:49.10 | mtnman | amorphix: does that line end with /usr/bin/sshd? |
| 22:49.16 | amorphix | yes |
| 22:49.25 | aladninx | PerfDave ok cool, and that should support texas instrument cards? i know there was a problem with them before |
| 22:49.41 | mtnman | amorphix: what happens exactly when you ssh to that box from another one? |
| 22:49.48 | RyanB | I'm running Debian Surge with an old Compaq monitor. I'm trying to change my screen's resolution to 1280x1024 but it says that the screen can only go to 800x600 even though in XP I had it at 1280x1024. Could some please help me make it bigger? |
| 22:49.53 | PerfDave | aladninx: I have no idea whether Linux supports your wireless card :) |
| 22:50.04 | amorphix | mtnman: absolutely nothing, it just hangs and times out |
| 22:50.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 671] by debhelper |
| 22:50.10 | PerfDave | !drxx RyanB |
| 22:50.14 | dpkg | RyanB: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:50.51 | mtnman | amorphix: perhaps you can run nmap against the sshd server box to see if the port is accessible. |
| 22:50.59 | thingfish | Debian Surge sounds like laundry detergent. |
| 22:51.00 | amorphix | ok |
| 22:51.14 | plAnadecU | ok |
| 22:51.17 | plAnadecU | it worked, thanks |
| 22:51.38 | hladmonjay | ughb |
| 22:51.45 | mtnman | what was the name of the laudry soap w/homer's pic on the box? |
| 22:52.30 | thingfish | oh man, what was that... |
| 22:52.30 | RyanB | (Not sure who to send it to): It's telling me that the package 'x-server-xfree86' is not installed. But it has to be for the GUI to work, right? |
| 22:52.43 | thingfish | I can sort of see the box... |
| 22:52.44 | stew | RyanB: xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:52.53 | mtnman | ryanb: you have a typo. see what stew said |
| 22:53.24 | RyanB | stew: I'm such a loser... lol. It's report time and I'm stressed.... XD |
| 22:53.29 | tekki | PerfDave: the official testing image have the 2.6.12 kernel ?Ã |
| 22:53.42 | PerfDave | tekki: I don't know. I don't recommend that people use testing. |
| 22:53.44 | thingfish | poor dude |
| 22:53.47 | RyanB | stew: By the way, thanks... ^_^ |
| 22:53.58 | tekki | but i need it L:) |
| 22:54.03 | PerfDave | tekki: No, you don't. |
| 22:54.08 | tekki | sure? |
| 22:54.13 | tekki | any suggestion? |
| 22:54.19 | thingfish | RyanB: time to start getting serious - better start hitting the vodka. |
| 22:54.22 | tekki | im listenin ;) |
| 22:54.30 | aladninx | PerfDave is there a list of supported types somewhere? |
| 22:54.33 | PerfDave | tekki: Yes, I'm sure. As I said already, there are stable-branch installers with 2.6.12 and so on kernels. |
| 22:54.54 | stew | tekki: a 2.6.8 kerel wont work? why not? |
| 22:54.56 | RyanB | thingfish: I would, if I didn't have the report(s) to do... XP |
| 22:54.58 | PerfDave | aladninx: Check out the /topic for #wireless - there's a pretty good FAQ. |
| 22:54.59 | fbi | mr. sparkle was the name of the detergent. |
| 22:55.09 | aladninx | thanks |
| 22:55.11 | tekki | due to the sata controller ofmy laptop |
| 22:55.14 | dondelelcaro | surge is a soft drink. |
| 22:55.15 | mtnman | fbi: thanks |
| 22:55.26 | thingfish | but vodka makes those reports just write themselves. |
| 22:55.31 | dondelelcaro | (or was, not sure if it's around anymore) |
| 22:55.38 | RyanB | I heard that... lol. |
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| 22:56.00 | RyanB | Oi. Where do you find a video card's bus identifier? I have an ATI Sapphire. |
| 22:56.11 | fbi | RyanB: hit Enter. |
| 22:56.13 | stew | RyanB: unless you have 2 cards or are using a mac, leave it blank |
| 22:56.16 | thingfish | RyanB: just OK through that. not needed. |
| 22:56.20 | mtnman | ryanb: if you only have one card it doesn't matter |
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| 22:56.31 | RyanB | Thanks, to you all... =) |
| 22:56.38 | luddite | Hmm that's modern technology for me. sata.. i think it's recognized as a scd device |
| 22:56.48 | EdgEy | is there a simple way to set grub up again after a windows install removes it |
| 22:56.55 | stew | EdgEy: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
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| 22:57.01 | EdgEy | thanks |
| 22:57.06 | luddite | i'm still using PIII |
| 22:57.16 | luddite | with plain old ide. |
| 22:57.29 | mtnman | edgey: you could boot from a boot disk{ette} and install grub. |
| 22:57.38 | grendal_prime | is it just me or is there a new feature in aptitude that warns of unauthenticated downloads? |
| 22:57.49 | stew | grendal_prime: /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 22:57.49 | grendal_prime | has that been there all along? |
| 22:57.57 | grendal_prime | got ya |
| 22:57.59 | grendal_prime | thanks |
| 22:58.00 | stew | grendal_prime: its new |
| 22:58.26 | RyanB | Would I need to restart my computer for the changes to take effect with XServer? |
| 22:58.35 | fbi | restart X |
| 22:58.36 | mtnman | ryanb: no. |
| 22:58.36 | stew | RyanB: no, just restart x |
| 22:58.40 | PerfDave | RyanB: No, you'd need to restart your X server :) |
| 22:58.51 | grendal_prime | well thats kinda kewl...as cartman would say |
| 22:58.55 | RyanB | ::cough:: And how do I go about doing that? |
| 22:59.06 | PerfDave | RyanB: Restart your compute r;) |
| 22:59.07 | fbi | RyanB: are you running a display manager? |
| 22:59.15 | stew | RyanB: /etc/init.d/?dm restart |
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| 22:59.23 | grendal_prime | if your a windows user you punch the starter button |
| 22:59.36 | fbi | starter button? it's a pc, not a car. |
| 22:59.41 | grendal_prime | or the shutterdown button |
| 22:59.44 | RyanB | lol. |
| 22:59.49 | RyanB | Okay. |
| 23:00.34 | shale | i did an rsync remote.ip:/var/lib/mysql/ /var/lib/mysql/ but it didn't transfer mysql usernames and privs... why not? |
| 23:00.46 | Jon_ | Two things to solve all windows problems: Ctrl+Alt+Del, and the Wall switch |
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| 23:00.52 | amorphix | mtnman: I got nmap to show the port is actually open |
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| 23:01.11 | fbi | wall switch? what kind of idiot actually uses the socket that is wired up to the wall switch? |
| 23:01.13 | mtnman | amorphix: good |
| 23:01.16 | fbi | that's an accident waiting to happen |
| 23:01.22 | Jon_ | a windows idiot? |
| 23:01.26 | tekki | PerfDave: sry...where do i find those iso?:( |
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| 23:01.42 | PerfDave | tekki: No idea, sorry :) |
| 23:02.02 | tekki | PerfDave: bhuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :( |
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| 23:02.39 | RyanB | Woo-hoo! It worked! |
| 23:02.40 | stew | tekki: /msg dpkg custom d-i ; /msg dpkg testing daily |
| 23:02.44 | cheal | shale: users on the system are mysql users? |
| 23:02.51 | RyanB | :bows to all who helped:: Thanks! |
| 23:03.00 | cheal | shale: s/are/or/ |
| 23:03.11 | shale | cheal, mysql users |
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| 23:03.25 | stew | tekki: please tell me you tried "linux26" with stable CDs alredy |
| 23:03.41 | tekki | stew: yes of course |
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| 23:03.57 | amorphix | damnit i still cannot connect to ssh |
| 23:04.04 | RyanB | Okay. On to something else: does Debian have MySQL on the first binary CD? |
| 23:04.20 | shale | RyanB, yes |
| 23:04.31 | shale | or wait, sorry, i don't know |
| 23:04.45 | fbi | amorphix: "can't" ? or it takes a long time |
| 23:04.46 | cheal | shale: check that your mysql DB was synchronized. |
| 23:04.46 | mtnman | ryanb: doesn't matter, if you are doing a netinstall. |
| 23:04.52 | stew | RyanB: /msg dpkg which cd |
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| 23:04.58 | amorphix | fbi: will not accept a connection it seems |
| 23:05.20 | amorphix | must be a firewall/permission issue |
| 23:05.27 | johaBBa | will the 'netinst CD image' on this link give me thet net install for Sid? http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 23:05.32 | RyanB | mtnman: I've already installed Debian. I'm on dialup anyway. |
| 23:05.33 | shale | cheal, how do i do that? |
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| 23:05.44 | fbi | amorphix: the box running sshd is Debian? |
| 23:05.49 | amorphix | yes |
| 23:05.51 | mtnman | ryanb: you can install software over dialup |
| 23:05.58 | cheal | shale: check the mysql DB, check the user table |
| 23:06.07 | eliteforce | is it possible to see what other users run in the shell? |
| 23:06.10 | RyanB | mtnman, I know that. |
| 23:06.20 | thingfish | gosh I love Debian. It's just so fricking good. |
| 23:06.28 | mtnman | ryanb: so why did you make an issue over using dailup? |
| 23:06.28 | thingfish | you can't hardly break it. |
| 23:06.44 | eliteforce | thingfish: its dead in 10 secs in my hands |
| 23:06.55 | RyanB | mtnman, I'm not making an issue. It's just hard. It's the only line we have. |
| 23:07.03 | thingfish | I'm on dialup too. It's not that big of an obstacle. |
| 23:07.12 | thingfish | hehe eliteforce |
| 23:07.12 | shale | cheal, the users aren't there |
| 23:07.25 | mtnman | ryanb: by the time you figure out another solution, you could apt-get install mysql |
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| 23:07.42 | RyanB | mtnman: Terminal command, right? |
| 23:07.55 | mtnman | ryanb: uh, yeah. |
| 23:07.55 | thingfish | I mean, I'm going to try suse 10 here in a few days, but I have no doubt that I'll be back to debian in a short time. |
| 23:08.11 | stew | there is no mysql package |
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| 23:08.13 | RyanB | mtnman: I'm new to Linux. |
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| 23:08.46 | mtnman | ryanb: you'll want mysql-client and/or mysql-server |
| 23:08.50 | stew | RyanB: apt-get install mysql-server or mysql-server-4.1 |
| 23:09.03 | RyanB | mtnman & stew: Thanks. |
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| 23:09.17 | mtnman | ryanb: welcome |
| 23:10.30 | RyanB | mtnman: When I use the command for mysql-server and 4.1, it stops with "E: Couldn't find package mysql-server-4.1" |
| 23:10.45 | mtnman | ryanb: i suggested mysql-server |
| 23:10.47 | luddite | hey all, how do i check out my viewable hardware info on my harddrive? through linux :) |
| 23:10.52 | SvperPhly | *sigh* this is rediculous... there has GOT to be a debian net install disc that supports the adaptec scsi adapter 39320 |
| 23:10.54 | RyanB | mtnman: It does it with both. |
| 23:10.55 | cheal | shale: make sure that /var/lib/mysql/mysql was synchronized |
| 23:11.12 | shale | i thot it was :) |
| 23:11.35 | mtnman | ryanb: both are available on this system (sarge sources) |
| 23:11.40 | grendal_prime | hehehe i was talking to a friend in brazil...he is such a windows whore...anyway i was explaining that i use x2vnc hack to control three machines here ...like a an array of computers...he thinks im full of shit |
| 23:11.54 | cheal | shale: well, do you think or you're sure? |
| 23:11.57 | tekki | bye, i'll try to install.... cu all and thanks |
| 23:11.57 | mtnman | ryanb: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 23:12.08 | deadcat | anyone know how much memory the PSP has? |
| 23:12.10 | eliteforce | how can i see (i have full root access) what other users are executing in the shell ...? |
| 23:12.23 | deadcat | eliteforce: snoopy |
| 23:12.27 | shale | cheal, how could i check to make sure... i did an rsync /var/lib/mysql/ so to me that means everyting in the folder... and i did it while mysqld was stopped |
| 23:12.42 | grendal_prime | also i was telling him how linux can alias the nic out and you can assign it a compleatly different network and route it out the gateway...he doesnt think thats real |
| 23:12.44 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 23:12.45 | abrotman | deadcat: skippy ? |
| 23:12.48 | fbi | windows whore. that's a good one. what exactly is a windows whore, someone who sleeps with people for cracked XP keys? |
| 23:12.50 | deadcat | eliteforce: i assume you're doing this illegally? |
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| 23:13.04 | michael__ | bob2: I have managed to proceed with the Fish encryption compiling for Irssi, but when trying to 'make' I still get errors of files missing ... |
| 23:13.05 | deadcat | abrotman: no. skippy has been crapping on me. useless.. |
| 23:13.08 | mtnman | fbi: that would be a crack whore |
| 23:13.12 | abrotman | deadcat: fix it ? |
| 23:13.14 | fbi | hah. |
| 23:13.18 | deadcat | abrotman: really? |
| 23:13.21 | thingfish | how dirty. |
| 23:13.24 | bob2 | michael__: good luck |
| 23:13.34 | bob2 | michael__: I suspect you'd be done by now if you'd listened to me two hours ago |
| 23:13.38 | abrotman | deadcat: i'm not sure why you let skippy crap on you |
| 23:13.39 | grendal_prime | YO FISHMAN |
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| 23:13.47 | grendal_prime | hows it hanging bro? |
| 23:13.48 | RyanB | mtnman: apt-get install mysql-server stops with "E: Package mysql-server had no installation candiate" |
| 23:13.53 | Mistle | hello |
| 23:14.02 | deadcat | abrotman: (=. bad programmer i think |
| 23:14.03 | hardwire | dondelelcaro: still around at all? |
| 23:14.07 | thingfish | hehe hi grendal_prime |
| 23:14.13 | eliteforce | deadcat: what illegally? no. i have a server with root access and there are other users on the system which i want to control a bit |
| 23:14.13 | abrotman | deadcat: you're so missing the joke |
| 23:14.14 | pipeline | RyanB: Solution: Don't install mysql |
| 23:14.21 | thingfish | good, you grendal_prime? |
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| 23:14.21 | mtnman | ryanb: you should run apt-setup to confirm your sources.list file is okay. |
| 23:14.35 | RyanB | pipeline: I _have_ to have it. School. |
| 23:14.37 | cureless | eliteforce, that doesn't imply it's legal/illegal |
| 23:14.39 | cheal | shale: just # md5sum /var/lib/mysql/mysql/user.* |
| 23:14.40 | michael__ | bob2: okay I thought you don't know what I am talking about and were giving 'some random answer to workaround'. do you know what I need and do you know that it'll work? if yes, please be so nice and tell me again (I'm pretty new to linux) |
| 23:14.44 | Mistle | i'm a very inexperienced debian user and i'd need some help with setting up network on my comp, would anyone volunteer to help me out here a bit please? |
| 23:14.45 | pipeline | RyanB: lies |
| 23:14.56 | deadcat | eliteforce: thats why you setup your machine, you dont snoop on people. |
| 23:15.01 | RyanB | pipeline: Seriously. I hate it too. |
| 23:15.05 | deadcat | abrotman: your jokes are bad (= |
| 23:15.12 | mtnman | mistle: you should read man interfaces |
| 23:15.14 | fbi | Mistle: man interfaces; ask questions after. |
| 23:15.16 | abrotman | deadcat: lots fo me is |
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| 23:15.26 | Mistle | ok |
| 23:15.31 | thingfish | oh he can be funny. |
| 23:15.32 | eliteforce | cureless: i know this guy really good but if he does sh.. i can see it |
| 23:16.14 | RyanB | mtnman: Okay. It was setup wrong. Thanks for you help once again... |
| 23:16.16 | cureless | eliteforce, do the users know you are going to snoop on them/plan on doing so? |
| 23:16.25 | bob2 | michael__: a) this is pointless. b) sudo apt-get build-dep irssi-text ; apt-get source irssi-text |
| 23:16.29 | mtnman | ryanb: what was setup wrong? |
| 23:16.37 | bob2 | michael__: edit debian/rules in the created dir, so it passes whatever options you need to pass |
| 23:16.41 | mtnman | ryanb: and you're welcome |
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| 23:17.11 | RyanB | mtnman: It was setup to get it from CD, I think (It's testing its sources, which is working). |
| 23:17.17 | mtnman | ah |
| 23:17.18 | eliteforce | cureless: yes i think he got no problem with that, are there other packages available too for monitoring other users? |
| 23:17.33 | mtnman | eliteforce: ttysnoop |
| 23:18.09 | abrotman | thingfish: i made a funny earlier! |
| 23:18.09 | deadcat | ttysnoop is weak. it only does telnet. who the hell still telnets |
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| 23:18.30 | thingfish | abrotman: I bet you did! |
| 23:18.37 | infinity1 | I'm using debian as a router and i'm having some really strange problem. anyone know where i can get some assistance? |
| 23:18.38 | mtnman | deadcat: did not know that. in fact, i haven't looked at the program since i was using telnetd... dunno how many years ago... |
| 23:18.51 | mtnman | !tell infinity1 about ask |
| 23:18.56 | bob2 | infinity1: it's a lot easier if you just ask your question |
| 23:19.00 | eliteforce | mtnman: and wheres the difference between them= |
| 23:19.04 | bob2 | so we can either answer, or suggest somewhere better to ask |
| 23:19.10 | deadcat | mtnman: same here. and setting that thing up is weird too i think. |
| 23:19.10 | mtnman | between what? |
| 23:19.16 | thingfish | infinity1: definitely not here in #debian. |
| 23:19.21 | Mistle | i think my interfaces file is written ok |
| 23:19.21 | infinity1 | bob2: well. i don't want to explain it all if no one is interested. you interested in a puzzle? :) |
| 23:19.27 | mtnman | deadcat: in fact, i never got it working properly. |
| 23:19.31 | fbi | Mistle: so bring up the network then. |
| 23:19.36 | infinity1 | thingfish: know where i can ask? |
| 23:19.49 | Mistle | fbi: how? *noob8 |
| 23:20.00 | mtnman | infinity1: how about a single sentence describing what you are trying to accomplish and how it fails. |
| 23:20.02 | eliteforce | mtnman: snoopy / ttysnoop |
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| 23:20.19 | deadcat | mtnman: there was this vlogger module from thc.com or something which was pretty cool as well (= |
| 23:20.19 | mtnman | eliteforce: read the package descriptions. |
| 23:20.49 | thingfish | infinity1: I was kidding. Don't ask to ask; read what dpkg told you and start over. |
| 23:21.15 | infinity1 | mtnman: this linux box has 4 interfaces (eth[1-3], ppp+) its a router/firewall/poptop server. when a pptp client connects to it, the system gets the ping packet and doesn't forward it. if i do ifdown ifup the interface of the network i can't reach, i can ping. |
| 23:21.36 | infinity1 | er 4 interfaces eth0-2, ppp+ |
| 23:21.49 | mtnman | infinity1: cat /etc/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward. 0 or 1? |
| 23:21.50 | luddite | hdparm -i /dev/hda... that's the answer |
| 23:21.53 | infinity1 | mtnman: 1. |
| 23:22.20 | bob2 | infinity1: output of "ip route show" to #flood |
| 23:22.36 | eliteforce | ok thank you guys |
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| 23:22.38 | eliteforce | night |
| 23:22.41 | mtnman | infinity1: well, first of all, you should address the question to the channel, not an individual. second of all, i don't really know anythying about pptp |
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| 23:23.14 | mtnman | infinity1: but apparently, bob2 does! |
| 23:23.16 | RyanB | Does anyone know if a Kodak EasyShare CX6230 will work on Debian? |
| 23:23.25 | deadcat | RyanB: no |
| 23:23.29 | infinity1 | mtnman: sorry ... |
| 23:23.53 | RyanB | deadcat: Thanks... |
| 23:23.56 | bob2 | RyanB: if it's a camera, try the gphoto website. |
| 23:24.01 | infinity1 | anyway, it doesn't seem to be a pptp problem, but when i ifup/down the lan interface i'm trying to ping, it starts to work. it stops working if i disconnect and reconnect the pptp client |
| 23:24.03 | mtnman | infinity1: no problem, but you obviously didn't read the output of the "ask" factoid very careully:D |
| 23:24.07 | RyanB | bob2: Thanks! |
| 23:24.18 | infinity1 | mtnman: i've read it. i missed it this time :) |
| 23:24.19 | deadcat | RyanB: no as in no, i dont know (= not no, it doesnt work |
| 23:24.21 | infinity1 | mtnman: sorry |
| 23:24.24 | bob2 | infinity1: so it only works when you ifdown/ifup the interface? |
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| 23:24.30 | infinity1 | bob2: yea |
| 23:24.43 | mtnman | ryanb: how about looking it up in the hardware howto at tldp.org? |
| 23:24.45 | michael__ | bob2: done, but I dont know how/where to edit the debian rules in the crated dir? and what do edit there? |
| 23:24.47 | RyanB | deadcat: I knew... ^_^ |
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| 23:25.41 | bob2 | michael__: ... |
| 23:25.59 | bob2 | michael__: open it in your text editor, find the ./configure line, add --enable-useless-encryption or whatever the flag is |
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| 23:26.18 | bob2 | michael__: if it's not a configure option, you need to re-ask your question, including important details like how the hell this is suppsoed to work |
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| 23:29.03 | infinity1 | did anyone see #flood. the system on the lan isn't showing icmp reploy packets on the lan interface until i ifup/down the lan interface |
| 23:29.21 | infinity1 | how bizzare. |
| 23:30.43 | bob2 | infinity1: that sounds like pptp fuckage, which I don't know anything about, sorry |
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| 23:30.56 | bob2 | infinity1: asking on the debian-isp list might be a good idea (lists.debian.org) |
| 23:31.12 | ecobit | does anyone know how to prepend a search <domain> line to resolv.conf in dhclient.conf? |
| 23:31.29 | infinity1 | bob2: why do you think its a pptp thing? the lan host receives the packet but doesnt respond. |
| 23:31.54 | infinity1 | bob2: well, it odesn't show a response until i ifup/down |
| 23:32.17 | bob2 | infinity1: are you ifup/downing the ppp or eth interface? |
| 23:32.24 | mtnman | ecobit: i do not, however there is man 5 dhclient.conf |
| 23:32.50 | ecobit | mtnman: which makes no mention of setting that option... |
| 23:33.33 | mtnman | ecobit: there is a setting called "supersede domain-name" |
| 23:34.05 | mtnman | ecobit: is that what you're looking for? |
| 23:34.14 | caphuso | ecobit: also check out resolvconf |
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| 23:34.28 | infinity1 | bob2: the eth2 |
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| 23:34.59 | mtnman | ecobit: there is also man 5 dhcp-options |
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| 23:35.12 | ecobit | ideally i would just like to specify to dhclient on the command line to prepend resolv.conf with a custom search <domain> line |
| 23:35.23 | bob2 | unlikely to work |
| 23:36.09 | ecobit | i call dhclient under different conditions, some of which require the extra search parameter oh well! |
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| 23:36.21 | mtnman | ecobit: there is also man 5 dhcp-options |
| 23:36.36 | bob2 | ecobit: dhclient lets you use different config files at runtime |
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| 23:38.22 | infinity1 | bob2: are you in flood |
| 23:38.39 | infinity1 | bob2: does that look like a bug to you? |
| 23:38.57 | bob2 | infinity1: bug? |
| 23:39.04 | bob2 | infinity1: ifup/ifdown are fairly unrelated to ifconfig |
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| 23:39.21 | bob2 | infinity1: ifup/ifdown look in /etc/network/interfaces and do things based on the contents |
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| 23:41.18 | infinity1 | try |
| 23:41.21 | infinity1 | er true |
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| 23:42.04 | infinity1 | ...this is a real odd problem. hmmm |
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| 23:43.01 | thegraham | Hi, my SSL certificate for uw-imap-ssl has expired. Is there a script to automatically generate a new one? |
| 23:44.19 | ecobit | FYI it looks like "prepend domain-name "www.example.org "" is the way to do it, though it is poorly documented... |
| 23:44.19 | infinity1 | is there a way to clear the arp cache? |
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| 23:45.40 | daEAGLEmon | the unstable from the servers prob isn't supported it is? |
| 23:45.45 | bbrazil | infinity1: ip neigh del dev eth0 |
| 23:45.58 | ecobit | infinity1: i'm not sure, but you could also try to send a gratuitous arp from an iface |
| 23:46.15 | tybalt89 | hi, new to Debian, what do I apt-get to get Xlib.h and the rest of the include files to build X client programs? |
| 23:46.18 | infinity1 | ecobit: can you give me an example? |
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| 23:46.30 | gravity | tybalt89: Try x-dev |
| 23:46.30 | sussudio | !tell tybalt89 about search |
| 23:46.32 | amphi | tybalt89: xlibs-dev |
| 23:46.34 | infinity1 | bbrazil: thanks. i'll try that. |
| 23:46.40 | gravity | No, not xlibs-dev |
| 23:46.41 | gravity | Please |
| 23:46.48 | ecobit | infinity1: that i cannot do. you'll have to google around for how to do it. |
| 23:46.59 | gravity | For my sake |
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| 23:47.05 | amphi | gravity: ? |
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| 23:47.41 | bbrazil | infinity1: you might have to play with that command a bit |
| 23:47.43 | ecobit | infinity1: and it still won't fix issues with arp caches on things like cisco switches... |
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| 23:48.11 | aarkerio | hi, I get an old laptop (400 mhz, 68 RAM) and I want to ask you if exist a mini-distri (based debian) to install |
| 23:48.29 | gravity | amphi: That package is going away. |
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| 23:48.34 | sussudio | !bear abrotman |
| 23:48.35 | gravity | amphi: The less people use it, the better |
| 23:48.49 | amphi | gravity: ah - it's leaving etch? |
| 23:49.04 | gravity | amphi: Yes, eventually. The next version of xorg won't have it |
| 23:49.04 | REdOG | can anyone here give me a quick run down of why I can trust the binaries avaliable in debians apt-get repositories? |
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| 23:49.15 | REdOG | besides the obvious that its OSS |
| 23:49.19 | abrotman | !xteddy Suspect |
| 23:49.20 | amphi | gravity: thanks |
| 23:49.21 | abrotman | whoops |
| 23:49.36 | gravity | REdOG: They were signed on upload by a member of the Debian project. That member has to be connected in a web of trust with the entire rest of the project |
| 23:49.47 | REdOG | gravity: tyvm |
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| 23:49.56 | gravity | REdOG: No package can go in to the Debian archives without a trusted key in the Debian keyring |
| 23:50.46 | infinity1 | bbrazil: yea. i see its not quite working as advertised yet :) |
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| 23:51.43 | abrotman | how can i tell if media is in a drive? |
| 23:52.26 | bob2 | REdOG: there is one flaw in the chain, tho: the package contents are verified using md5sum, which could probably be broken by a determined attacker |
| 23:53.06 | abrotman | that's why i switched to md6sum |
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| 23:53.39 | abrotman | i'd like to help you son .. but you smell like a goat .. |
| 23:54.59 | prock | libgtk2.0-dev cannot be installed because libpango1.0-dev refuses to be installed |
| 23:55.08 | prock | how do I go about resolving these kind of issues? |
| 23:55.17 | infinity1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.23 | infinity1 | ;) |
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| 23:55.46 | tybalt89 | gravity: x-dev got some *.h files, but not Xlib.h :( |
| 23:55.55 | gravity | tybalt89: libx11-dev |
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| 23:57.50 | w3rdn4 | Does anyone know what you have to let go through the router to let the xbox play on xbox live? I am using m0n0wall as my router. |
| 23:58.12 | abrotman | !m0n0 |
| 23:58.15 | abrotman | !m0n0wall |
| 23:58.15 | dpkg | monowall is probably a freebsd based firewall that provides a web based configuration and will run off a 8mb CF card: http://m0n0.ch/wall |
| 23:58.21 | abrotman | i thought there was a channel for that |
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| 23:58.57 | w3rdn4 | I am asking in the channel as well |
| 23:59.01 | w3rdn4 | just seeing if anyone might of donet his before |
| 23:59.04 | tybalt89 | gravity: that worked, thank you |
| 23:59.12 | gravity | tybalt89: No problem |
| 23:59.41 | daEAGLEmon | abrotman, heh if their xbox is anything like msn messenger need like from 5000-65000 open |
| 23:59.46 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 23:59.53 | abrotman | daEAGLEmon: dont' tell me .. |
