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| 00:00.07 | lightbright | !hug sussudio |
| 00:00.09 | abrotman | Servo888: man kill didn't hlep ? |
| 00:00.10 | PerfDave | Servo888: kill -9 |
| 00:00.16 | SimonRaven | that looks like a spam site... |
| 00:00.21 | fbi | mejde: #ubunut |
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| 00:00.22 | Servo888 | Tried -9, it sent it into defunct |
| 00:00.22 | fbi | err |
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| 00:00.27 | fbi | #ubuntu |
| 00:00.44 | SimonRaven | eh, not kill -9. not unless you have no other option |
| 00:00.44 | fbi | ubunut sounds better though. |
| 00:01.00 | mejde | fbi: already there but thought I'd ask in here too |
| 00:01.11 | SimonRaven | you thought wrong |
| 00:01.15 | mejde | fbi: you never know ;) |
| 00:01.21 | fbi | mejde: you are going to find much support here. |
| 00:01.32 | fbi | god dammit |
| 00:01.34 | lightbright | mejde: why use ubuntu when you can use debian? |
| 00:01.36 | fbi | s/are/aren't/ |
| 00:01.43 | nvz | goes to inspect the meatless meat |
| 00:01.53 | Guerin | nvz: eew |
| 00:01.55 | fbi | meatless meat? as in soy? |
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| 00:01.57 | nvz | heh |
| 00:01.59 | mejde | fbi: would be fine with "are"... you know... sarcasm ;) |
| 00:02.01 | dvs | tofu |
| 00:02.07 | nvz | I dont get it myself |
| 00:02.10 | lightbright | tofu is awesome!! |
| 00:02.17 | Guerin | tofu is awesome |
| 00:02.20 | SimonRaven | OH FFS |
| 00:02.21 | nvz | I mean wtf is meatless meat |
| 00:02.27 | Guerin | but not ehen it's pretending to be meat |
| 00:02.35 | lightbright | nvz: lol |
| 00:02.56 | lightbright | nvz: thats like saying waterless glass of water :) |
| 00:03.01 | sussudio | they make fake meat out of rotten milk now. |
| 00:03.06 | abrotman | Gnea: what .. du isn't good enough ? |
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| 00:03.11 | fbi | f***ing gross. |
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| 00:03.18 | abrotman | fucking gross. |
| 00:03.19 | lightbright | sussudio: are you serious??? |
| 00:03.20 | fbi | isn't rotten milk yogurt? |
| 00:03.25 | nvz | heh |
| 00:03.26 | Guerin | fbi: no. |
| 00:03.31 | cevizoglu | fbi, no, yogurt is cultured |
| 00:03.37 | SimonRaven | eh, wtf |
| 00:03.40 | fbi | oh. either way, gross. |
| 00:03.46 | pipeline | fbi: Yogurt is bacterial. Rot is frequently fungal. |
| 00:03.47 | Guerin | if you'd ever smelt rotten milk you'd understand the difference |
| 00:03.50 | lightbright | I dont eat meat, and no wonder why. when you eat meat you never know what filth you are eating |
| 00:03.53 | fbi | word. |
| 00:03.59 | abrotman | Gnea: you have a bigger problem |
| 00:04.00 | lightbright | fbi: i agree |
| 00:04.06 | cevizoglu | fbi, just like sourdough isn't rotten dough |
| 00:04.07 | sussudio | http://www.valess.com/ < hmm doesn't seem to be in english. bit dumb for a .com site. |
| 00:04.11 | abrotman | Gnea: echo -n "\"" ; for i in `find /usr/bin/ -ls | awk '{print $7}'`; do j=`echo $i`; k=`echo "$j" | tr '\n' '+' | sed -e 's/+/\ +\ /g'`; echo "$k" | tr '\n' ' ' ; done ; echo "\"" |
| 00:04.12 | Guerin | lightbright: i know pretty well what filth I'm eating |
| 00:04.26 | Guerin | lightbright: i used to live on a dairy farm, and worked as a chef for a long while |
| 00:04.28 | abrotman | Gnea: that gets you the " at the beginning and end .. but sadly .. there's a trailing + |
| 00:04.42 | pipeline | lightbright: Nah. I've seen slaughterhouses. It's not as bad as you probably expect :P |
| 00:04.44 | Servo888 | abrotman, the man page doesn't explain anything about killing a pid that wont die... And the pid numbers don't mean anything special to me... |
| 00:04.48 | abrotman | Gnea: though .. you could make that last echo do echo "0\"" |
| 00:04.58 | abrotman | Servo888: no kill -9 ? |
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| 00:05.05 | abrotman | Guerin: except don :) |
| 00:05.09 | Servo888 | abrotman, kill -9 doesn't kill it |
| 00:05.12 | Guerin | abrotman: don banned it |
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| 00:05.17 | abrotman | Guerin: i know |
| 00:05.19 | PerfDave | Argh, what's the netmask / CIDR for the 172.31.0.0 reserved network? |
| 00:05.20 | abrotman | !zombie |
| 00:05.20 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
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| 00:05.43 | abrotman | PerfDave: that depends |
| 00:06.11 | abrotman | Gnea: ? |
| 00:06.13 | lightbright | pipeline: i still stick to being vegeterian :) |
| 00:06.29 | nvz | and eating meatless meaT? |
| 00:06.32 | PerfDave | abrotman: Depends on what? |
| 00:06.36 | lightbright | SerajewelKS: try running sysguard as root |
| 00:06.44 | sussudio | PerfDave: apt-get install ipcalc |
| 00:06.45 | abrotman | PerfDave: how many IPs you want in that |
| 00:06.46 | lightbright | Servo888: try running sysguard as root |
| 00:06.51 | Guerin | oh god, now it's trying to give advice |
| 00:07.12 | Guerin | !say lightbright: you're not qualified to give advice in here, stop it. |
| 00:07.13 | MrBallZ | PerfDave: hey , I removed the libraries of libgphoto , then i recompiled libgphoto2.1.6 then gphoto2 and, when i try to run gphoto i get an error saying it can't load a library , how can I kow what library is or ... |
| 00:07.13 | dpkg | lightbright: you're not qualified to give advice in here, stop it. |
| 00:07.19 | nvz | heh |
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| 00:07.34 | lightbright | Servo888: i meant ksysguard |
| 00:07.36 | PerfDave | abrotman: No, it doesn't. There's a reserved, fixed-size network, like 192.168.0.0/16 and 10.0.0.0/8 |
| 00:07.56 | abrotman | PerfDave: you want to use the whole reserved 172.x.x.x space? |
| 00:08.03 | PerfDave | MrBallZ: You probably need to specify LD_LIBRARY_PATH or similar. But why not just backport the sid package? |
| 00:08.09 | SimonRaven | fucking hyphens |
| 00:08.12 | PerfDave | abrotman: It's not 172.0.0.0/8, it's something else |
| 00:08.26 | lightbright | yes I am new to Debian, yet I feel I can still give advice in things I have done successfuly |
| 00:08.26 | abrotman | PerfDave: such as 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 ? |
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| 00:08.52 | MrBallZ | i didn't get any response from dpkg on how to doit ... |
| 00:08.56 | abrotman | 172.16.0.0/12 |
| 00:08.59 | PerfDave | abrotman: I don't know, is it? :) |
| 00:09.12 | abrotman | PerfDave: if you want all of the 172 private area .. yes |
| 00:09.12 | PerfDave | abrotman: OK, cheers |
| 00:09.16 | a_dave | general question: updating from stable to testing, reinstall or apt-get |
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| 00:09.22 | MrBallZ | !tell MrBallZ sid backport package |
| 00:09.23 | abrotman | PerfDave: you realize that's over one million IPs .. right ? |
| 00:09.28 | Guerin | abrotman: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
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| 00:09.33 | abrotman | Guerin: ok |
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| 00:09.36 | mikael_ | hello |
| 00:09.37 | PerfDave | abrotman: So what? |
| 00:09.41 | fbi | haha |
| 00:09.45 | Guerin | a_dave: see my advice to abrotman above |
| 00:09.46 | lightbright | a_dave: if you are asking, you should stick with stable |
| 00:09.50 | abrotman | PerfDave: well .. i mean .. you could just make it a /24 like a normal person :) |
| 00:09.53 | PerfDave | abrotman: It's smaller than 10.0.0.0/8 ;) |
| 00:09.57 | mikael_ | does anyone know how to open jlnp files ???? |
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| 00:10.10 | PerfDave | abrotman: That's not relevant to what I'm doing :) |
| 00:10.25 | abrotman | PerfDave: but you can use a subset of it .. like just 172.16.2.0 - 172.16.2.255 etc |
| 00:10.27 | mikael_ | it's a java stuff |
| 00:10.30 | SimonRaven | mikael_: 'file thatfile.jlnp' |
| 00:10.45 | abrotman | PerfDave: erm .. ok .. carry on :) |
| 00:10.46 | mikael_ | SimonRaven yes but it's from a website |
| 00:11.17 | a_dave | right, I'm m/l familiar w/ upgrading via apt. my question is more, what's the PITA tax, on a scale from 1-10 |
| 00:11.17 | SimonRaven | so? |
| 00:11.34 | PerfDave | abrotman: I'm trying to remember what the entire network is so I can not let it go past my router :) |
| 00:11.44 | SimonRaven | you send everyone here a gyros |
| 00:11.46 | fbi | what the hell is a PITA tax. |
| 00:11.52 | lightbright | michal_: are jlnp files complied files? |
| 00:11.52 | abrotman | PerfDave: ah .. ok .. have fun! |
| 00:11.57 | nvz | !ycdi MrBallZ |
| 00:11.57 | dpkg | MrBallZ, You can do it! |
| 00:12.03 | abrotman | fbi: Pain In The Ass Tax .. |
| 00:12.05 | a_dave | pita == pain in the ass |
| 00:12.05 | lightbright | fbi: its tax on pita |
| 00:12.07 | PerfDave | abrotman: FWIW, I'm only using 172.31.0.0/16 :) |
| 00:12.13 | abrotman | !pita |
| 00:12.14 | dpkg | i heard pita is pain in the ass or whats usually for supper :) |
| 00:12.16 | nvz | need a random changer on the end of that factiod |
| 00:12.18 | Guerin | a_dave: about 2, in my experience |
| 00:12.19 | stew | PerfDave: 172.16 - 172.31 which is a /12 |
| 00:12.21 | abrotman | PerfDave: that lets some in |
| 00:12.26 | fbi | a_dave: if you need etch, upgrade. if your hardware works with sarge, don't. it's simple. |
| 00:12.31 | Guerin | a_dave: might be as high as 5 if you have gnome and kde installed |
| 00:12.32 | nvz | You can do it! Fuck the chicken! |
| 00:12.34 | mikael_ | lightbright I don't know really what are jlnp files except that it's related to java |
| 00:12.35 | stew | PerfDave: 172.16.0.0/12 |
| 00:12.39 | nvz | something like that |
| 00:12.40 | lightbright | fbi: great advice |
| 00:12.44 | abrotman | hehe .. Guerin .. you forgot about the udev fuckery |
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| 00:12.50 | lightbright | mikael_: ah ok, thanks |
| 00:12.51 | Guerin | abrotman: oh yeah |
| 00:13.06 | Guerin | a_dave: actually, if you have gnoem and hal and udev, it'll be about a 7 |
| 00:13.06 | lightbright | fbi: why fix something thats not broken in other words |
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| 00:13.12 | SimonRaven | oh nice |
| 00:13.13 | SimonRaven | - Add ldaptor-ldap2dnszones, generates bind-style DNS zones from |
| 00:13.14 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.21 | PerfDave | stew: Cheers, yeah, we've got it now :) |
| 00:13.35 | abrotman | PerfDave: if you care to remember .. they go /8,/12,/16 .. |
| 00:13.40 | a_dave | guerin: ha. thanks. maybe a clean install from media then. |
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| 00:13.46 | abrotman | Gnea: ? |
| 00:13.48 | MrBallZ | !tell MrBallZ sid backport package |
| 00:13.51 | PerfDave | abrotman: Yeah, two /8s, a /12 and a /16 :) |
| 00:13.51 | Guerin | a_dave: nah, it's not that bad. |
| 00:13.59 | MrBallZ | !tell MrBallZ backport |
| 00:14.00 | Guerin | a_dave: you just need to follow the instructions |
| 00:14.03 | MrBallZ | mmmm |
| 00:14.03 | nvz | MrBallZ: stfu |
| 00:14.08 | nvz | MrBallZ: /msg dpkg |
| 00:14.26 | abrotman | PerfDave: afaik .. only one /8 |
| 00:14.36 | SimonRaven | dpkg doesn't have nuts |
| 00:14.37 | PerfDave | abrotman: 10.0.0.0/8 and 127.0.0.0/8 :) |
| 00:14.39 | MrBallZ | PerfDave: how do i ask dpkg about the backport ... |
| 00:14.39 | abrotman | PerfDave: the 10.x.x.x is a /8 .. |
| 00:14.48 | lightbright | SimonRaven: how do you know? :) |
| 00:14.49 | linux-noob | I just installed Debian 3.1_r0a, and in KDE how do you ajust the sound drivers ???? |
| 00:14.49 | abrotman | PerfDave: oh .. i guess .. but i don't think you can use 127/8 |
| 00:14.55 | SimonRaven | MrBallZ: 'simple sid backport' |
| 00:14.58 | fbi | MrBallZ: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:14.58 | PerfDave | MrBallZ: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:15.00 | abrotman | !sex |
| 00:15.00 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 00:15.02 | abrotman | bah |
| 00:15.05 | abrotman | wrong one |
| 00:15.09 | lightbright | linux-noob: alsaconf |
| 00:15.17 | SimonRaven | !gender |
| 00:15.17 | dpkg | I'm female |
| 00:15.20 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:15.23 | SimonRaven | see? |
| 00:15.33 | lightbright | SimonRaven: ah ok ;) |
| 00:15.40 | lightbright | SimonRaven: could be a shemale :P |
| 00:15.43 | abrotman | !gender |
| 00:15.43 | dpkg | I'm male |
| 00:15.46 | SimonRaven | !gender |
| 00:15.48 | PerfDave | abrotman: Theoretically lo should respond to anything in that network, so you can run one server on 127.0.0.1 and one on 127.0.0.2 - they'd only be accessible from the local machine of course. |
| 00:15.50 | abrotman | he's just like lightbright !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:15.51 | abrotman | :) |
| 00:15.54 | fbi | haha |
| 00:15.56 | SimonRaven | abrotman: ;) |
| 00:16.08 | fbi | gender confused! |
| 00:16.17 | abrotman | PerfDave: yes . and afaik .. routers won't route them .. but carry on :) |
| 00:16.18 | lightbright | could be a ladyboy |
| 00:16.25 | linux-noob | lightbright: is that a command in the termanial ??? |
| 00:16.27 | abrotman | could be an idiot |
| 00:16.31 | fbi | chicks with dicks++ |
| 00:16.32 | PerfDave | abrotman: Routers shouldn't route any reserved IP space :) |
| 00:16.39 | lightbright | linux-noob: yes, type alsaconf |
| 00:16.44 | linux-noob | ok kool |
| 00:16.47 | abrotman | PerfDave: unless that is one of thier networks |
| 00:17.07 | lightbright | linux-noob: you may need to firstly type apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
| 00:17.16 | cevizoglu | hey, there's no tool called gasp |
| 00:17.19 | PerfDave | abrotman: IM they shouldn't route any of them into public IP space :) |
| 00:17.39 | abrotman | PerfDave: i'm sure they do |
| 00:17.45 | lightbright | linux-noob: did alsaconf work? |
| 00:17.48 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 00:17.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kenrel you must also install alsa modules before you run alsaconf, if you are using a debian kernel, apt-get install alsa-modules-$(uname -r) |
| 00:17.52 | SimonRaven | echo "#!/bin/sh" > gasp; chmod +x gasp. now there is |
| 00:18.13 | cevizoglu | SimonRaven, :-> |
| 00:18.20 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 00:18.25 | abrotman | !find gasp |
| 00:18.35 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gasp' (4 of 7): (/usr/bin/m68hc12-gasp) in devel/binutils-m68hc1x ;; (/usr/bin/vgaspect) in contrib/otherosfs/spectemu-svga ;; (/usr/share/games/vegastrike/textures/sol/gaspra.png) in games/vegastrike-data ;; (/usr/h8300-hitachi-hms/bin/h8300-hitachi-hms-gasp) in devel/binutils-h8300-hms. |
| 00:18.52 | SimonRaven | holy |
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| 00:19.33 | SimonRaven | my cat is now being a cuddle slut |
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| 00:20.06 | litage | i just generated a gpg key-pair, but encrypting a file with ``gpg --encrypt -o info.gpg info.txt'' gives this error: gpg: 5ADB1554: skipped: public key not found, gpg: info.txt: encryption failed: public key not found |
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| 00:20.34 | abrotman | SimonRaven: just wants fed :) |
| 00:20.50 | SimonRaven | not this time, she wanted lap time |
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| 00:20.52 | Guerin | abrotman: why would the cat want the FBI? |
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| 00:21.01 | fbi | eh? |
| 00:21.01 | stew | !yinzersmite abrotman |
| 00:21.07 | SimonRaven | *groan* |
| 00:21.11 | abrotman | Guerin: heh |
| 00:21.15 | fbi | because pussy just lurrves the fbi! |
| 00:21.18 | abrotman | :phillysmite fbi |
| 00:21.23 | abrotman | !phillysmite fbi |
| 00:21.27 | fbi | ihave dpkg on ignore. |
| 00:21.33 | fbi | weeeeeeeeeee |
| 00:21.43 | abrotman | mmm .. apples |
| 00:21.45 | sussudio | @yinzersmite fbi |
| 00:21.59 | abrotman | @phillysmite fbi |
| 00:22.03 | abrotman | :( |
| 00:22.03 | sussudio | :-| |
| 00:22.07 | SimonRaven | smart, but the 'bird doesn't know it yet |
| 00:22.07 | fbi | jackasses. |
| 00:22.19 | sussudio | ravenbird: you're useless |
| 00:22.26 | fbi | were those triggers supposed to do something? |
| 00:22.27 | abrotman | ~g4ltsmite fbi |
| 00:22.32 | abrotman | god damn it |
| 00:22.36 | abrotman | @g4ltsmite fbi |
| 00:22.42 | abrotman | !fuck all the bots |
| 00:22.48 | Guerin | mhallsmite |
| 00:22.55 | Guerin | it's the only way to be sure |
| 00:23.12 | abrotman | penixsmite ? |
| 00:23.22 | fbi | there should be an 'mwilsonsmite' that cusses you out, with it's superiorness. |
| 00:23.36 | abrotman | !listkeys mwilson |
| 00:23.37 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'mwilson' by key (6): be mwilson barbie ;; CMD: be mwilson (.*?) ;; mwilson <apt> hmm... he ;; mwilson #DEL# ;; mwilsonsays ;; mwilson. |
| 00:23.39 | nvz | ravenbird is too far north to know about yinzers |
| 00:23.39 | ravenbird | no idea, nvz |
| 00:23.51 | goombah234 | is there a way to tell exactly what gcc is doing when it compiles,like a verbose option? I'm still trying to find this undefined references thing. |
| 00:23.52 | nvz | see |
| 00:23.52 | abrotman | !be mwilson |
| 00:23.57 | abrotman | !be mwilson fbi |
| 00:23.58 | dpkg | What in the world does that have to do with fbi? Other than nothing, of course. |
| 00:24.02 | fbi | hah! |
| 00:24.03 | lightbright | litage: yeah I had that same error |
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| 00:24.04 | stew | nvz: as if there are yinzers in SoCal |
| 00:24.11 | lightbright | litage: I found a solution if you want it |
| 00:24.25 | SimonRaven | !be mwilson barbie |
| 00:24.26 | dpkg | What in the world does that have to do with barbie? Other than nothing, of course. |
| 00:24.27 | fbi | i'm in so cal, and i wouldn't know a yinzer if i saw one |
| 00:24.27 | abrotman | goombah234: have you tried a dist-upgrade to bring things in sync ? |
| 00:24.34 | stew | haha |
| 00:24.59 | goombah234 | I believe so, but perhaps I'll try it again |
| 00:25.02 | abrotman | you know .. mwilson didn't seem to curse that much |
| 00:25.04 | stew | fbi: yeah, you only know one when you hear one |
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| 00:25.14 | lightbright | litage: here is the command you need: gpg --no-default-recipient --no-encrypt-to -r 5ADB1554 -e filename |
| 00:25.19 | nvz | !yinzersmite fbi |
| 00:25.19 | stew | fbi: unless of course you see someone drinking iron city beer |
| 00:25.24 | fbi | stew: still have no idea what a yinzer sounds like, either! |
| 00:25.35 | abrotman | wtf is lightbright going on about ? |
| 00:25.38 | fbi | i've never seen iron city beer here |
| 00:25.41 | SimonRaven | goombah234: could tell it to keep temp files for instance. man gcc. other stuff too |
| 00:25.42 | nvz | stew: thats drinkin irns |
| 00:25.42 | abrotman | fbi: pittsburghese.com |
| 00:25.51 | fbi | ah. |
| 00:26.09 | nvz | nobody says Iron here |
| 00:26.10 | lightbright | litage: and try gpg --no-encrypt-to -r 5ADB1554 -e filname |
| 00:26.21 | abrotman | mor elike irin |
| 00:26.22 | lightbright | litage: did they work? |
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| 00:26.30 | abrotman | GNEA!!! |
| 00:26.34 | abrotman | E17 sucks! |
| 00:27.14 | Frankablu | abrotman: Take that back or I will track you down and <Insert more threats here> |
| 00:27.32 | fbi | you'll <tickle his balls> ? |
| 00:27.34 | sussudio | nvz: http://www.boners.com/grub/792684.html |
| 00:27.37 | abrotman | Frankablu: it was a joke .. Gnea is an E17 user .. .. i thought that might grab him |
| 00:27.43 | nvz | iron and huge are two words a yinzer cannot say |
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| 00:27.52 | sussudio | huge iron? |
| 00:27.54 | deadcat_ | Frankablu: what you gonna do to him? you cant touch him |
| 00:28.15 | abrotman | deadcat_: well .. he might live near me |
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| 00:28.32 | abrotman | deadcat_: i mean .. secher_ could be here in 10 to kill me |
| 00:28.41 | SimonRaven | @phillysmite fbi |
| 00:28.43 | deadcat_ | abrotman: still. unless you go outside and scream "i am abrotman from #debian, freenode" he dont know you |
| 00:28.45 | Frankablu | deadcat_: I'm going to use that device which 6 different people said they were going to invent to allow you to punch people over the internet I'm sure one of them had a success |
| 00:29.08 | deadcat_ | Frankablu: such an imagination |
| 00:29.11 | abrotman | Frankablu: stab .. not punch .. |
| 00:29.13 | SimonRaven | Frankablu: oh ffs, get a fricking sense of humour |
| 00:29.32 | abrotman | hey look .. it's a DD ! |
| 00:29.34 | fbi | fight!!! /me rings bell |
| 00:29.40 | abrotman | !fight fbi |
| 00:29.54 | nvz | !austinpowers smite SimonRaven |
| 00:29.58 | SimonRaven | i'd understand if he'd insulted your mother or something, but wtf. |
| 00:30.00 | Frankablu | Bah I'll rather not |
| 00:30.00 | dvs | !pumpel fbi |
| 00:30.00 | fbi | ehm. why am i not seeing anything after those triggers? |
| 00:30.13 | abrotman | fbi: you ignored the bot ? |
| 00:30.16 | abrotman | !pimp fbi |
| 00:30.17 | fbi | no, i was kidding |
| 00:30.31 | nvz | heh |
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| 00:30.44 | fbi | i do have a bunch of channel garbage ignored though |
| 00:30.45 | litage | lightbright: turns out i needed to comment out the "encrypt-to" line in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf =P thanks |
| 00:30.54 | lightbright | litage: cool :) |
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| 00:31.14 | abrotman | fbi: and yet .. you haven't ignored me .. .. figure that out |
| 00:31.27 | fbi | is someone talking to me? |
| 00:31.36 | lightbright | litage: that didnt work for me when I commented ouit the "encrypt-to" line in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf, weird! but gpg --no-default-recipient --no-encrypt-to -r 5ADB1554 -e filename worked for me |
| 00:31.49 | mfrisch | damm the man is coming down |
| 00:31.50 | SimonRaven | you wouldn't say that if you were really ignoring him |
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| 00:32.01 | abrotman | mfrisch: your mom ? |
| 00:32.12 | SimonRaven | "damn, foiled with logic" |
| 00:32.12 | fbi | SimonRaven: nothing gets by you, eh? |
| 00:32.16 | mfrisch | abrotman the fbi |
| 00:32.25 | SimonRaven | fbi: very little |
| 00:32.52 | abrotman | SimonRaven: eh? |
| 00:33.14 | SimonRaven | fbi : is someone talking to me? SimonRaven : you wouldn't say that if you were really ignoring him |
| 00:33.16 | litage | lightbright: i removed an old key-pair and made a new one, so that's why i had to remove the "encrypt-to" line |
| 00:33.39 | SimonRaven | litage: probably an old key-id was there |
| 00:33.40 | lightbright | litage: ok great its working for you :) |
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| 00:34.49 | litage | aye. thanks guys! |
| 00:34.58 | lightbright | litage: anytime |
| 00:35.19 | abrotman | you didn't even help him |
| 00:35.20 | MrBallZ | PerfDave: any recomendations on what repository to use for the backports ??? |
| 00:35.27 | lightbright | thingfish: hello, you shall become a fisher of men. |
| 00:35.29 | abrotman | !backports |
| 00:35.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 00:35.46 | abrotman | !backports is also http://www.backports.org |
| 00:35.46 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 00:35.50 | abrotman | erm .. |
| 00:35.56 | abrotman | oh well .. close enough |
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| 00:36.06 | fbi | MrBallZ: didn't the term 'simple sid backport' clue you in? |
| 00:36.23 | lightbright | MrBallZ: I use: deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable all |
| 00:36.31 | abrotman | lightbright: are you stupid? |
| 00:36.37 | lightbright | MrBallZ: and also: deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian stable all |
| 00:36.41 | Guerin | !say lightbright that's incredibly stupid |
| 00:36.42 | nvz | abrotman: does a bear shit in the woods? |
| 00:36.42 | dpkg | lightbright that's incredibly stupid |
| 00:36.44 | DEbian_testing | Hi! |
| 00:36.45 | fbi | stable repo for a sid backport, huh. |
| 00:36.49 | deadcat_ | hahaha |
| 00:36.58 | fbi | how's that work. |
| 00:37.00 | |XO4| | this is strange...i have php4-mysql installed but php says its not installed |
| 00:37.03 | nvz | abrotman: some things go without saying |
| 00:37.09 | abrotman | fbi: no . it's not that .. the URL she's using .. is for woody backports ... |
| 00:37.11 | lightbright | fbi: im using Sarge |
| 00:37.11 | free-love | man |
| 00:37.16 | free-love | redaht sucsk donkey dong |
| 00:37.17 | abrotman | MrBallZ: ignore lightbright |
| 00:37.20 | fbi | i guess my entire system is 'backported' using that logic. |
| 00:37.23 | free-love | Im supporting redhat ent linux 4 |
| 00:37.24 | free-love | Es |
| 00:37.27 | lightbright | free-love: we know , we know |
| 00:37.29 | free-love | wow its sucking to install |
| 00:37.39 | fbi | *plonk* |
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| 00:37.46 | free-love | only compaint with debian is old kernel |
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| 00:37.53 | abrotman | what old kernel? |
| 00:38.00 | free-love | how do people run HA cluster |
| 00:38.00 | Guerin | free-love: easily changeable |
| 00:38.02 | lightbright | free-love: why not complie your own ? |
| 00:38.06 | abrotman | lightbright: shut it |
| 00:38.11 | abrotman | free-love: which old kernel ? |
| 00:38.38 | deadcat | hahahaah |
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| 00:39.08 | fbi | woody backports ahaha even better. |
| 00:39.12 | fbi | sorry, i'm slow. |
| 00:39.18 | abrotman | you are the fbi |
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| 00:39.33 | lightbright | fbi: :) |
| 00:39.57 | PerfDave | Guerin: vesafb! |
| 00:41.06 | Guerin | PerfDave: s3! |
| 00:41.23 | Guerin | (this is the word assi\ociation game, right?) |
| 00:41.31 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:41.32 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 00:43.20 | abrotman | darn losers from PA |
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| 00:44.17 | Guerin | abrotman: itym 'loosers' |
| 00:44.32 | abrotman | no |
| 00:44.37 | Verxion | Samba Help - Can someone direct me to a web page or how to that describes how to setup samba to ONLY respond to hosts on the local network? |
| 00:44.45 | abrotman | samba help -> #samba |
| 00:45.00 | abrotman | and .. where else would the hosts be? |
| 00:45.18 | deadcat | Verxion: samba respond to anyone other than the local network? |
| 00:45.22 | Verxion | abrotman: Fair enough. The system -*IS*- debian, so I started here. :) |
| 00:45.37 | Verxion | deadcat: I don't know for certain, I just want to be sure it DOESN'T |
| 00:45.47 | deadcat | Verxion: test it out. |
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| 00:46.06 | Verxion | I don't have a very good way to test actually |
| 00:46.13 | Verxion | I only have one IP from my ISP |
| 00:46.30 | abrotman | Verxion: you have it on the internet ? |
| 00:46.31 | deadcat | Verxion: set your lan machine to diff network |
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| 00:46.49 | bob__ | um, there's a security problem with the debian archive at MIT...anyone heard about this? I get GPG auth errors in dselect |
| 00:47.00 | abrotman | bob__: like what ? |
| 00:47.07 | Verxion | abrotman/deadcat: I have only one linux system - my firewall/gateway. I haven't setup samba on it yet, but was HOPING to use that same system for samba fileserving |
| 00:47.08 | bob__ | Reading package lists... Done |
| 00:47.08 | bob__ | W: GPG error: http://debian.lcs.mit.edu testing Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG F1D53D8C4F368D5D Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 00:47.08 | bob__ | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 00:47.24 | abrotman | !topicsmite bob__ |
| 00:47.25 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon bob__. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 00:47.40 | deadcat | Verxion: ok. its gonna work then. |
| 00:47.50 | abrotman | Verxion: i'm sure you can configure it to only use one interface .. but your firewall should stop external people anyways |
| 00:48.18 | abrotman | bob__: are you saying .. you already setup apt-secure stuff .. and it's now broken . or you never set it up ? |
| 00:48.27 | Verxion | abrotman: I agree that it SHOULD. I believe in multiple layers of security though. . . |
| 00:48.35 | Verxion | ok, thanks for the help guys - I am off to #Samba |
| 00:48.37 | bob__ | it has been working fine for a year and a half till just now |
| 00:48.38 | Verxion | appreciate the help |
| 00:48.41 | deadcat | Verxion: then you on your own |
| 00:48.49 | abrotman | bob__: are you on sid or etch ? |
| 00:48.54 | bob__ | sid |
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| 00:49.02 | abrotman | bob__: and you had setup apt secure beofre? |
| 00:49.05 | abrotman | !apt secure |
| 00:49.05 | dpkg | [apt secure] in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://www.syntaxpolice.org/apt-secure/ ; until you perform the steps described on page 5, you will get warnings about packages that can't be authenticated, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174 |
| 00:49.20 | Guerin | bob__: you really should keep your sid machines more up-to-date than that |
| 00:49.21 | deadcat | scruffy: if hes afraid what the fuck hes using the internet then. |
| 00:49.34 | Guerin | bob__: apt has had gpg checking since about july in sid |
| 00:50.01 | bob__ | no, I mean I do update with dselect all the time What I mean is the system has been up and running for a year and a half |
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| 00:50.24 | bob__ | ok then something is screwy somewhere I don't get it |
| 00:50.40 | abrotman | bob__: i'm asking you the last time you updated your machien .. basically .. |
| 00:50.47 | fbi | this is trivial, but why doesn't flux/blackbox support transparency ? (i.e. if i put up an image with bsetbg, a transparent terminal will still be black on top of it) |
| 00:50.50 | fbi | if that makes sense |
| 00:51.00 | caphuso | you expect a system that changes almost daily to work for 1.5 years without needing reconfiguration every now and then? |
| 00:51.05 | bob__ | I updated yesterday |
| 00:51.27 | Guerin | bob__: apparently for the first time in at least three months |
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| 00:51.43 | romulo | what package provides luabind.h ? |
| 00:51.48 | bob__ | well, maybe I am confused and I updated another machine yesterday. |
| 00:52.00 | abrotman | bob__: but before that ? |
| 00:52.05 | bob__ | I think this came about when I added another package |
| 00:52.06 | Guerin | !tell romulo about search |
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| 00:53.09 | fbi | luabind.h is nothing from an official debian package |
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| 00:53.14 | Verxion | ROFL |
| 00:53.17 | sussudio | liblua? |
| 00:53.28 | Verxion | #Samba has like 100 people on it, but NO ONE is alive in there |
| 00:53.28 | Guerin | liblua* -dev |
| 00:53.29 | Verxion | rofl |
| 00:53.35 | abrotman | Verxion: they sleep sometimes! |
| 00:53.36 | Guerin | !they aren't there |
| 00:53.37 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel aren't helping with your non-debian problem , it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 00:53.41 | abrotman | !find luabind.h |
| 00:53.57 | sussudio | !find luabind.h |
| 00:54.01 | bob__ | well anyhow sorry to bug everyone but I thought there was some big archive security problem that may need attention, it turns out it's just me, I'll go read the apt-secure faq |
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| 00:54.08 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'luabind.h' returned no results. |
| 00:54.17 | Verxion | Guerin: I understand. I hadn't even posed a question, just thought I would mention the fact that no one was there |
| 00:54.22 | Verxion | Guerin: I thought it was funny |
| 00:54.23 | Verxion | :) |
| 00:54.51 | abrotman | Verxion: wait .. you didn't ask a question . .and are surprised noone answered ? |
| 00:55.01 | Verxion | abrotman: I did ask questions |
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| 00:55.15 | SillyCone | I have an AMD Athlon machine, and debian installed a k7 kernel. Is that ok? |
| 00:55.21 | abrotman | SillyCone: yes |
| 00:55.22 | Guerin | SillyCone: yes |
| 00:55.53 | SillyCone | ..and when I install software, should I use k7 as well? |
| 00:56.24 | SillyCone | or 386? |
| 00:56.29 | Guerin | SillyCone: 386 |
| 00:56.39 | Verxion | so Guerin: question - since debian is really just a distribution of various programs, is this channel just specifically for INSTALLING debian, and things like debian specific tools (apt-get comes to mind) |
| 00:56.39 | Guerin | SillyCone: there is no k7 software to speak of in debian |
| 00:56.45 | Verxion | Guerin: I am just curious. |
| 00:56.47 | SillyCone | ok, thanks |
| 00:57.05 | SillyCone | Well, there is a k7 version of ndiswrapper |
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| 00:57.27 | PerfDave | SillyCone: That's because ndiswrapper is a kernel module and must match your kernel compile options :) |
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| 00:57.38 | PerfDave | SillyCone: You'll also want libc6-686 or whatever it's called. |
| 00:57.43 | Guerin | Verxion: it's for that, and it's for things that are debian-specific |
| 00:57.59 | PerfDave | Verxion: This channel is really for anything to do with running Debian, but some other channels might give you better advice than we can :) |
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| 00:58.08 | SillyCone | so, for ndiswapper I should use k7, because my kernel is k7, right? |
| 00:58.12 | Verxion | PerfDave: I see |
| 00:58.41 | PerfDave | SillyCone: Well, you shouldn't use ndiswrapper, because it's pure evil. But if you were foolish enough to do so, then you'd use the -k7 package, yes. |
| 00:59.19 | SillyCone | PerfDave: I dont know any other way to install my wireless card. And it works pretty good with ndiswrapper |
| 00:59.22 | PerfDave | Verxion: And since I didn't see your question before, install the samba-doc packages and check the "interfaces", "hosts allow" and "bind interfaces only" options in smb.conf, noting that they won't stop nmbd from listening on the global addresses. |
| 00:59.45 | Verxion | PerfDave: Ok, thanks |
| 01:00.00 | Verxion | karat: (I couldn't reply in message) thanks - yeah, I am good at reading things, but security is something I don't want to get wrong just because I read it incorrectly. If I was installing something like X windows - I wouldn't have ANY issue with trying it on my own and getting it a little wrong. Hopefully that makes sense. |
| 01:00.01 | PerfDave | SillyCone: I'd get a wireless card that Linux supports rather than bodging Windows stuff into it, but that's just me. |
| 01:00.11 | Guerin | WHY do people buy crappy unsupported hardware? WHY!!??1 |
| 01:00.19 | deadcat | cheap |
| 01:00.33 | deadcat | and who said you have to "buy" |
| 01:00.34 | SillyCone | PerfDave: maybe I will one day, but for now I'll just stick to ndiswrapper :) |
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| 01:00.48 | SillyCone | Thanks for your help! |
| 01:00.55 | Guerin | deadcat: well, if you're going to steal it, you might as well steal something GOOD, right? |
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| 01:01.06 | deadcat | if you use ndis, you dont bitch about it. |
| 01:01.12 | Verxion | Guerin: I can honestly say from personal experience - its because they A. don't yet know that Linux is very picky about hardware, or B. that they just wanted to save a buck and figured they were willing to waste time trying to get it to work in Linux |
| 01:01.15 | deadcat | Guerin: hahaha. |
| 01:01.36 | SillyCone | :) |
| 01:01.49 | Guerin | Verxion: linux is NOT picky about hardware. Linux supports more hardware than almost any other OS kernel ever written |
| 01:01.52 | Verxion | Guerin: I still remember when people bought "WinModems" and they just DIDN'T get that Linux couldn't use them. Of course, a short time later, even Linux found ways to make -*WIN*-modems work in Linux |
| 01:01.54 | abrotman | Verxion: linux is not very picky |
| 01:01.54 | SillyCone | I was not planning to install linux when I was buying my card |
| 01:01.59 | Guerin | the only others which come close are *bsd |
| 01:02.03 | Verxion | Guerin: Linux is EXTREMELY picky about hardware |
| 01:02.09 | abrotman | Verxion: it is not |
| 01:02.13 | Verxion | Guerin: But what it does support, it supports well |
| 01:02.13 | Guerin | Verxion: see my statement above |
| 01:02.18 | abrotman | Verxion: my laptop bought brand new worked perfectly fine |
| 01:02.21 | Guerin | Verxion: name an OS which supports more hardware |
| 01:02.24 | donleykicker | how do I disable the DHCP client? I reconfigured to use a static IP using etherconf, but it will grab a new IP every few minutes still |
| 01:02.25 | luddite | hey all what's the tool to record your x session for later review for presentations. interactive howto's |
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| 01:02.49 | Coweater | it's not picky, hardware vendors are picky about supporting oses |
| 01:02.53 | PerfDave | donleykicker: killall dhclient works ;) |
| 01:02.56 | Guerin | Coweater: right. |
| 01:03.02 | Verxion | Guerin: I can see you are quite the Linux advocate, but try as you might, you can take most ANYTHING off the shelf in a store, plug it into a windows box and it just WORKS. It ain't like that on Linux. That is a -*FACT*- |
| 01:03.09 | abrotman | Verxion: my laptop bought brand new worked perfectly fine |
| 01:03.16 | Guerin | Verxion: no, that is not a fact. |
| 01:03.26 | Guerin | Verxion: you're talking about WINTEL hardware |
| 01:03.37 | donleykicker | ah, but will it keep it from coming back perfdave? |
| 01:03.39 | Guerin | Verxion: windows runs on exactly ONE architecture |
| 01:03.49 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Untrue. |
| 01:03.51 | Verxion | Guerin: That said, it is my personal belief that ONCE Linux supports something, it supports it well, pretty much forever. Where else could you grab a pro-audio-spectrum -*SOUND*- card built 15 years ago and plug it into a computer and have it be a kickass SCSI card?!?!? |
| 01:03.56 | PerfDave | donleykicker: If you've changed your settings in etherconf, then it shouldn't come back. |
| 01:03.58 | abrotman | crap modems, closed NICs, shitty video card companies .. who is to blame .. not Linux .. you blame the companies |
| 01:04.06 | Guerin | Verxion: linux runs on at least a dozen, and supports lots of hardware on ALL of them |
| 01:04.16 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: and alpha, in some cases. |
| 01:04.19 | abrotman | Guerin: it runs on 2/3 .. depending how you define x86_64 |
| 01:04.22 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: but that's deprecated. |
| 01:04.23 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: At least without specifing version/age. |
| 01:04.27 | abrotman | doesn't run on alpha anymore |
| 01:04.35 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Granted. |
| 01:04.37 | Verxion | abrotman: 100% right. It is NOT Linux's fault that there is proprietary hardware. But there -*IS*- proprietary hardware. |
| 01:04.37 | abrotman | hasn't since NT4 |
| 01:04.50 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: NT for alpha *still* runs. |
| 01:04.50 | abrotman | Verxion: but my laptop .. FROM IBM .. works out of the box |
| 01:04.56 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: NT4 .. |
| 01:05.15 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: there are builds for PPC iirc .. 3.51 maybe ? |
| 01:05.30 | Verxion | abrotman: Yes, there is a LOT of hardware that works with Linux these days. No denying it. And we -*ALL*- know that IBM is more "Linux aware" than most hardware companies, so it stands to reason it worked out of the box. |
| 01:05.33 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 01:05.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Right. And no it's not supported but it's not like those boxes turned into pumpkins and stopped working. |
| 01:05.43 | abrotman | Verxion: so your statement is false |
| 01:05.43 | scarynetworkguy | Well to the extent they ever worked. |
| 01:05.55 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: NT4 .. work .. :) |
| 01:05.55 | Verxion | abrotman: Back when the IBM laptops had those funky "butterfly keyboards" IBM laptops absolutely did -*NOT*- work out fo the box. |
| 01:06.00 | Guerin | Verxion: the issue you're talking about is not the linux doesn't support lots of hardware - it just doesn't support the SPECIFIC hardware you;'re choosing for your sample. |
| 01:06.19 | abrotman | Verxion: tons of shit doesn't work with OSX either .. |
| 01:06.20 | Verxion | Guerin: hehe, if you wanna go play semantics, then do so |
| 01:06.23 | abrotman | or fbsd or obsd |
| 01:06.28 | Verxion | abrotman: exactly true |
| 01:06.30 | donleykicker | thx perfdave, it was dhclient through |
| 01:06.31 | abrotman | god fucking dman it .. |
| 01:06.34 | abrotman | !kill jack |
| 01:06.36 | Verxion | and there are lots of things that don't work on Windows either |
| 01:07.06 | Guerin | Verxion: no, my statement is valid; it's not hadwaving. The fact is that linux supports MORE hardware than windows, so you can't rightly say that it's more picky about hardware than windows is. |
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| 01:07.11 | Verxion | abrotman: If you go and try to use a -*SLIGHTLY*- old piece of hardware on windows XP, often times there is no frigging driver anymore. |
| 01:07.14 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Point. :) |
| 01:07.25 | abrotman | Verxion: depends on the piece of hardware |
| 01:07.34 | Verxion | abrotman: Its because the companies that made it didn't BOTHER to update their drivers, and M$ didn't bother to retain compatibility |
| 01:07.40 | abrotman | i have more luck with old DEC NICs on win32 than on linux .. which is pretty damn odd |
| 01:07.41 | Guerin | Verxion: oh wait, you said a minute ago that "you can take most ANYTHING off the shelf in a store, plug it into a windows box and it just WORKS." |
| 01:07.43 | PerfDave | donleykicker: It's an annoying situation - the correct way to do things is to ifdown the interface, then change /etc/network/interfaces from dhcp to static, then ifup it. If you change /etc/network/interfaces first then ifdown doesn't kill the dhclient for you. |
| 01:07.44 | Verxion | abrotman: Very true. HP is particularly bad about it |
| 01:07.58 | Verxion | Guerin: I certainly did. And I stand by that statement. |
| 01:08.09 | Verxion | Guerin: What you assumed is that I love and worship windows - which I don't. |
| 01:08.10 | abrotman | god fucking damn it .. what the hell does --replacement-chars do |
| 01:08.20 | Guerin | Verxion: but just now you said that "there are lots of things that don't work on Windows either" |
| 01:08.23 | Guerin | Verxion: which is it? |
| 01:08.28 | Verxion | Guerin: BOTH. |
| 01:08.29 | Guerin | Verxion: no, I don't. |
| 01:08.33 | donleykicker | perfdave: yeah, that is what happened. I though I messed up so I tried etherconf next... |
| 01:08.36 | Verxion | Guerin: If you read what I wrote, you would understand |
| 01:08.49 | Verxion | Guerin: If you go and try to use a -*SLIGHTLY*- old piece of hardware on windows XP, often times there is no frigging driver anymore. |
| 01:08.56 | Verxion | I wrote that to abrotman just a little bit ago |
| 01:08.56 | Guerin | Verxion: i do understand ... but you can't have it both ways. Either it supports everything, or it doesn't. |
| 01:08.58 | johaBBa | i have a local caching dns server on my 'gateway' linux machine that is sharing the cable connection. everytime my ISP changes my IP, my local dns is moved to the bottom in /etc/resolv.conf which messes up my local FQDNs. how can i keep my local dns at the top of /etc/resolv.conf OR make my gateway box _always_ check itself first when looking up names? |
| 01:09.06 | Guerin | Verxion: I can read. How is that not pickiness? |
| 01:09.07 | Verxion | OLDER hardware is HORRIBLY supported on Windows, if at all |
| 01:09.16 | Verxion | Guerin: Ahhh |
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| 01:09.21 | Verxion | Guerin: Touche' |
| 01:09.26 | Guerin | Verxion: right. |
| 01:09.29 | Verxion | Guerin: I tip my hat to ya |
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| 01:09.37 | Verxion | I had it a bit wrong in my head |
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| 01:09.47 | Verxion | Guerin: Indeed - Windows can be horribly picky about older hardware |
| 01:09.48 | PerfDave | johaBBa: Check /etc/dhclient.conf to change the behaviour of your DHCP client which gets the external address. |
| 01:09.56 | abrotman | johaBBa: you can have the dhcp client stop updating the resolv.conf .. or write a script to do rearrange it for you |
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| 01:10.13 | Verxion | Guerin: whereas Linux can be horribly picky about newer hardware (simply because the stupid hardware vendors don't share info and it has to be reverse engineered) |
| 01:10.20 | johaBBa | PerfDave, hrm...i'll check that out |
| 01:10.35 | Verxion | Guerin: But what I find is that MOST people are in a problem where they have NEWER hardware and it doesn't work in Linux |
| 01:10.39 | PerfDave | johaBBa: Incidentally, if your caching DNS server is dnsmasq, you can also keep the upstream DNS servers in the config file, or a different file from /etc/resolv.conf, which may keep things neater for you. |
| 01:10.52 | Guerin | Verxion: windows is permanently picky about slightly old hardware. Linux is temporarily picky about very new hardware, except in cases where spec hasn't been released, where it's technically next to impossible to get it working. |
| 01:10.58 | johaBBa | PerfDave, yes, using dnsmasq in sarge |
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| 01:11.07 | Verxion | Guerin: By the time hardware is old enough to not work on Windows, a ridiculous number of people assume the hardware has gone BAD when it is simply that they have no good driver |
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| 01:11.29 | Guerin | Verxion: heh... planned obsolescence |
| 01:11.48 | abrotman | Guerin: your time is coming! |
| 01:11.49 | Verxion | Guerin: But when you give people a hard time about buying crap hardware, it is nearly always (in my personal opinion) something that works well in Windows but which hasn't been supported in Linux yet, for reasons we have already discussed |
| 01:11.54 | johaBBa | PerfDave, i'm on DHCP tho...from my cable ISP. how does dnsmasq get changes to upstream servers? |
| 01:11.56 | Guerin | well, I had an ieee1394 bridge which worked perfectly on win29\k, but not at all on xp |
| 01:12.12 | Guerin | abrotman: dude, I've been obsolete for years already |
| 01:12.13 | Miesco | How come when I am connected to ssh inside my router I dont get disconnected from my ssh connection, but when I am outside my route I do get disconnected after being idle for a while? |
| 01:12.14 | Verxion | guerin: Not an uncommon hardware issue |
| 01:12.14 | PerfDave | johaBBa: Does your ISP ever change its upstream servers? Mine doesn't :) |
| 01:12.25 | abrotman | comcast does sometimes |
| 01:12.28 | kavorka | johaBBa: take a look at package resolvconf |
| 01:12.30 | abrotman | but mostly because they can't keep them running |
| 01:12.36 | johaBBa | PerfDave, actually yes. 3 times in the last 8 months |
| 01:12.38 | Guerin | Verxion: except this thing was made in ~2001 |
| 01:12.45 | Guerin | Verxion: and i was using it in ~2002 |
| 01:12.50 | abrotman | johaBBa: you have comcast too ? |
| 01:12.56 | fbi | ehm. i just setup cups for the first time, doing exactly what dpkg said. wtf is the login and pass to set up a new printer ? |
| 01:13.01 | Verxion | Guerin: I should tell you the HILARIOUS story about when the track pads were very FIRST introduced (back when trackballs were the common thing on laptops) |
| 01:13.12 | PerfDave | Miesco: Probably because the NAT device on your router drops the established port forward. Look into setting up SSH keepalives. |
| 01:13.16 | PerfDave | johaBBa: Wow, sucky :) |
| 01:13.19 | johaBBa | indeed. |
| 01:13.20 | abrotman | johaBBa: do you curse up and down everytime fail to keep a dns server running for more than 3 months? :) |
| 01:13.27 | Guerin | actually ... i should see if that 1394 unit works with linux |
| 01:13.34 | Miesco | PerfDave: On my ssh server? |
| 01:13.36 | johaBBa | abrotman, i run a colo server that i'm using for dns too |
| 01:13.41 | johaBBa | i hate comcast |
| 01:13.43 | Verxion | Guerin: Again I say - in my opinion, HP is one of the absolute WORST about not releasing current OS drivers for their products. It is bad enough that I currently REFUSE to buy ANYTHING from HP |
| 01:13.46 | abrotman | PerfDave: comcast has the unique ability of being incapable of running almost the most basic service on the internet .. |
| 01:13.54 | johaBBa | but at least they aren't blocking stuff |
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| 01:14.01 | johaBBa | like earthlink and others |
| 01:14.02 | Guerin | Verxion: i'm more or less with you there. |
| 01:14.21 | abrotman | PerfDave: they had a 5 day stretch where they were up/down/off/wrongIP/dead/dying/slow/shitty/etc |
| 01:14.22 | Verxion | Guerin: Epson is also on my bad list but for only slightly different reasons |
| 01:14.23 | Guerin | abrotman: why don't all you comcasters use proper dns servers? |
| 01:14.35 | johaBBa | Guerin, i do. i made my own. |
| 01:14.38 | Guerin | Verxion: hrm, most of epson's hardware has great linux support |
| 01:14.39 | abrotman | Guerin: oh . i can .. but i use them for back up of mine |
| 01:14.43 | PerfDave | Miesco: I think it's a client option, but I could be wrong :) |
| 01:14.47 | Guerin | egon_spengler: their printers and scanners, anyway |
| 01:14.48 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Those of us with a clue do. :) |
| 01:14.55 | Guerin | i should hope so |
| 01:15.05 | Guerin | so why don you whine about it so much? |
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| 01:15.17 | jbroome | it's irc, that's what you do |
| 01:15.18 | Verxion | Guerin: I agree. The issue I have with Epson is that their stupid ink cartridges "time out" and turn off if they think they are too old even when the ink is completely FULL. |
| 01:15.19 | PerfDave | johaBBa: It looks like the neatest thing to do is to have dhclient write the DNS servers it gets to somewhere other than /etc/resolv.conf and have dnsmasq pick up its upstream servers from that file. See dhclient-script(8) :) |
| 01:15.20 | Guerin | at least your dns isn't poisoned by your isp |
| 01:15.22 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Have you ever seen me whine about it? :P |
| 01:15.24 | joesboxd3b | can someone tell me how to get xft, xrender, and libpng headers installed? i don't know what depends on them. i am attempting to install |
| 01:15.25 | abrotman | Guerin: me whine ? |
| 01:15.28 | Guerin | Verxion: arrgh |
| 01:15.31 | Guerin | Verxion: evilness |
| 01:15.42 | joesboxd3b | i am attempting to install an app that needs them to compile |
| 01:15.44 | Verxion | Guerin: Indeed. It is evil enough that I boycott them |
| 01:15.44 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: not you ... i didn't even know you were on comcast |
| 01:15.54 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Heh. Indeed. |
| 01:16.10 | PerfDave | joesboxd3b: You want to look for the relevant -dev packages, with "apt-cache search". You also want to /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 01:16.11 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: I'm just kidding. |
| 01:16.13 | abrotman | ok .. who is bored and wants to learn jack!?!?! |
| 01:16.18 | Verxion | abrotman: Take your meds and step away from the channel slowly |
| 01:16.18 | Verxion | :) |
| 01:16.21 | Guerin | abrotman: i already know jack |
| 01:16.25 | johaBBa | PerfDave, ah. i see...i remember seeing something in dnsmasq where it would get it from a non-standard place |
| 01:16.27 | abrotman | god damn it .. i'm serious |
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| 01:16.32 | Guerin | abrotman: i'm working on diddley now |
| 01:16.33 | scarynetworkguy | Let's play the "does abrotman get to live" game. |
| 01:16.37 | abrotman | no shit |
| 01:16.40 | abrotman | where is he!?!?! |
| 01:16.47 | Guerin | abrotman: no, jack shit is going to come later |
| 01:16.48 | Miesco | PerfDave: I found a secion in my client: Options controlling SSH port forwarding |
| 01:16.49 | abrotman | azeem: ?! |
| 01:17.01 | abrotman | hehe .. i found the maintainer?!!? |
| 01:17.04 | abrotman | err just !!! |
| 01:17.12 | Verxion | guerin: just out of curiousity, do you use windows systems at home? |
| 01:17.25 | fbi | ok. wtf is the login and pass when i try and set up a printer in http://localhost:631/ |
| 01:17.26 | PerfDave | Miesco: That's not relevant, the problem is with IP port forwarding on your router :) |
| 01:17.30 | Phated | Guerin: Don't complain! :) |
| 01:17.32 | Guerin | Verxion: nope. |
| 01:17.44 | Verxion | Guerin: I suspected not. :) |
| 01:17.52 | Miesco | PerfDave: So I need to change the settings on my router? |
| 01:17.53 | Guerin | Phated: i'm not ... but i'd rather they make me do something or send me home |
| 01:17.56 | abrotman | azeem: tomorrow .. can you please explain --replacement-chars to me ? |
| 01:17.59 | paivakil | fbi your user name and password; you need to be a member of lpadmin group |
| 01:18.03 | abrotman | unless you're up now :) |
| 01:18.13 | Guerin | Verxion: having to go back to using windows is like losing an arm. |
| 01:18.17 | fbi | ah. cheers. dpkg failed to tell me that. |
| 01:18.25 | Miesco | PerfDave: I have the router sympatico sent me |
| 01:18.32 | Verxion | account_policy_get: tdb_fetch_uint32 failed for field 1 (min password length), returning 0 |
| 01:18.38 | paivakil | fbi it does, you need to set some level somewhere |
| 01:18.39 | Verxion | oops, sorry for the double paste |
| 01:18.41 | Verxion | didn't mean to |
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| 01:18.49 | Verxion | anyone know why I would get that type of error? |
| 01:18.51 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: You suck! |
| 01:19.01 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: it's tuesday .. there's nothing on anyways |
| 01:19.03 | johaBBa | kavorka, resolvconf looks like what i need |
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| 01:19.12 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Simpsons! You luser. |
| 01:19.16 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: it's tuesday |
| 01:19.17 | kavorka | johaBBa: it works for me |
| 01:19.18 | fbi | nothing on? |
| 01:19.22 | PerfDave | Miesco: No, you need to enable keepalives in your SSH client / server to stop your router from dropping the portforward from its NAT table. |
| 01:19.27 | fbi | the kings are going to slaugher the muddy dicks of anaheim. |
| 01:19.28 | johaBBa | PerfDave & kavorka, thank you both for your input |
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| 01:19.34 | abrotman | god damn .. Eat Your Paisley is almost 20 years old .. |
| 01:19.36 | laitment | I have a problem... I like the Debian release names, I like the Debian swirl, and I like the Debian philosophy... In fact, the only thing that I don't like about Debian is the distribution itself. |
| 01:19.37 | abrotman | i'm so damn old |
| 01:19.43 | PerfDave | johaBBa: Best of luck :) |
| 01:19.46 | Miesco | PerfDave: I did enable keep alive on my SSH server |
| 01:20.07 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yes. Simpsons would be on at 1900 hrs if it wasn't for you and your filthy kind. |
| 01:20.28 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: you know what .. it's syndicated on every damn channel .. get off your fat ass and change the channel :) |
| 01:20.43 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Here it's only Fox... |
| 01:20.53 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: really? .. your town sucks :) |
| 01:21.16 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yeah. But you won't send a plane to bring me to Philly, luser. |
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| 01:21.26 | PerfDave | Miesco: Also check the TCPKeepAlive option in man sshd_config |
| 01:21.45 | fbi | philly is overrated. except for the yuengling of course. |
| 01:21.56 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i don't .. own one? |
| 01:22.03 | abrotman | fbi: and we have cheesesteaks! |
| 01:22.10 | abrotman | and warmdaddys |
| 01:22.13 | abrotman | but don't tell scarynetworkguy that |
| 01:22.27 | fbi | dude, i told you already. i've had a better cheesesteak here than i ever had there. |
| 01:22.29 | thingfish | abrotman: what about zeps? ever heard of zeps? |
| 01:22.32 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yet another reason you suck. |
| 01:22.32 | Guerin | if they let me off early, I'm going to daejeon to get bacon |
| 01:22.33 | Miesco | I got this in my sshd_config: TCPKeepAlive no |
| 01:22.37 | abrotman | thingfish: i don't like them that much |
| 01:22.49 | abrotman | fbi: you lie! |
| 01:22.51 | thingfish | abrotman: my dad is from that area, he loves them. |
| 01:23.03 | abrotman | thingfish: yeah .. it's the .. salami they use i think .. not sure |
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| 01:23.10 | fbi | i waited in line at geno's for 30 minutes with a bunch of drunks, and didn't even like the sandwich. |
| 01:23.15 | fbi | cheesefries are good though |
| 01:23.28 | abrotman | fbi: uhm .. yeah .. i don't like pats or genos really .. but live and learn ... |
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| 01:23.53 | Guerin | oh man |
| 01:23.55 | Guerin | salami too |
| 01:23.58 | abrotman | fbi: there's a place on south street .. uhm .. i'd guess near 6th street .. makes great cheesesteaks |
| 01:24.29 | fbi | i'm sure there are plenty, i don't see what all the hype is with pat's and geno's |
| 01:24.43 | abrotman | fbi: neither do i :) |
| 01:24.45 | fbi | all the people i know in philly never eat at either place |
| 01:25.14 | abrotman | fbi: and you miss tastykakes!! |
| 01:25.16 | fbi | yay, i can print now. |
| 01:25.22 | abrotman | fbi: i know . .they're tourist traps .. |
| 01:25.24 | fbi | tastycakes? we have those here |
| 01:25.49 | abrotman | really ? |
| 01:26.10 | fbi | yih mang. some dude opened a cheesesteak place up and flies in his rolls from amoroso's |
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| 01:26.14 | fbi | along with tastycakes |
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| 01:26.20 | H2_IV_EZ | Hello |
| 01:26.23 | H2_IV_EZ | ? |
| 01:26.33 | H2_IV_EZ | can anyone help me? |
| 01:26.33 | fbi | H2_IV_EZ: hi. |
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| 01:26.40 | fbi | H2_IV_EZ: probably. |
| 01:26.40 | abrotman | hah |
| 01:26.48 | H2_IV_EZ | i'm looking for a channel that has cd images |
| 01:26.54 | fbi | huh? |
| 01:27.06 | abrotman | H2_IV_EZ: you're in the wrong channel |
| 01:27.08 | sussudio | oh good. warezboi. |
| 01:27.09 | H2_IV_EZ | or a room, where ppl share cd images |
| 01:27.13 | fbi | get out. |
| 01:27.17 | jbroome | i'll take pictures of my cd's for you |
| 01:27.23 | fbi | try EFnet, you warez whore. |
| 01:27.24 | abrotman | H2_IV_EZ: please go , this is not the channel for you |
| 01:27.26 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Maybe he means Debian install CDs. |
| 01:27.31 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: uh no |
| 01:27.34 | H2_IV_EZ | no, alchol 120% images |
| 01:27.42 | abrotman | H2_IV_EZ: please go |
| 01:27.47 | sussudio | H2_IV_EZ: leave this network. now. |
| 01:27.53 | H2_IV_EZ | why? |
| 01:28.05 | abrotman | H2_IV_EZ: you will not get warez on this network or in this channel |
| 01:28.18 | H2_IV_EZ | can you tell me where to go? |
| 01:28.19 | johaBBa | O_o |
| 01:28.22 | johaBBa | no |
| 01:28.22 | abrotman | trashbot: have you taken the turing test? |
| 01:28.25 | fbi | I JUST DID |
| 01:28.25 | fbi | EFNET |
| 01:28.25 | sussudio | H2_IV_EZ: to hell |
| 01:28.32 | fbi | ---------------------------------------------------> THAT WAY. |
| 01:28.34 | H2_IV_EZ | not a good enough answer |
| 01:28.40 | fbi | *plonk* |
| 01:28.42 | jbroome | f-u net? |
| 01:28.46 | abrotman | !ops H2_IV_EZ refuses to leave the channel and is looking for warez |
| 01:28.47 | H2_IV_EZ | nope |
| 01:28.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: H2_IV_EZ refuses to leave the channel and is looking for warez |
| 01:29.01 | johaBBa | uh-oh |
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| 01:29.10 | Roey | hi |
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| 01:29.29 | Roey | this bug is 43 days old. Does anyone know anything further about it? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=327949 |
| 01:29.31 | Guerin | while you ops are here, reiterating the ban on 001lg.syd.iprimus.net.au would be ideal |
| 01:29.42 | Guerin | Roey: if anyone did, they'd have noted so on the BTS |
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| 01:29.44 | sussudio | Guerin: it would |
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| 01:30.01 | Roey | Guerin: well the poster said that a simple recompile should be enough. |
| 01:30.04 | abrotman | Roey: it shoudl have been rebuilt already |
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| 01:30.08 | Guerin | Roey: is it? |
| 01:30.09 | Roey | Guerin: but there's *no* comment past that |
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| 01:30.27 | Roey | abrotman: I still have the same broken deps issue, though, when I try installing it. |
| 01:30.32 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 01:30.49 | abrotman | Roey: i thought the C++ abi crap was automagically done |
| 01:30.53 | Roey | dunno? |
| 01:30.57 | Roey | abrotman: it pisses me off thoguh :) |
| 01:31.04 | abrotman | Roey: you can file another bug? :) |
| 01:31.04 | Roey | abrotman: also, I don't know why there's no python2.4-kdd3. |
| 01:31.08 | Roey | for that matter. |
| 01:31.19 | abrotman | Roey: should there be? |
| 01:31.30 | Roey | sure! |
| 01:31.34 | abrotman | Roey: maybe the python-kde maintainer is on vacation? |
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| 01:31.36 | Roey | abrotman: python2.4 adds features over python2.3 |
| 01:31.44 | Roey | abrotman: dunno, it's certainly not in the comments if he is. |
| 01:31.52 | Roey | abrotman: plus, would he be on vacation for 40+ days? |
| 01:31.59 | abrotman | Roey: i don't even have a python-kde available in etch |
| 01:32.06 | Roey | abrotman: it's in sid though |
| 01:32.13 | Roey | abrotman: actually it was in sarge too I think |
| 01:32.16 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:32.20 | Roey | abrotman: it was only two months ago that this thing stopped being available |
| 01:32.21 | abrotman | maybe etch KDE is messed up |
| 01:32.22 | abrotman | err |
| 01:32.26 | abrotman | KDE is messed up ... |
| 01:32.29 | Roey | abrotman: yeah |
| 01:32.34 | dondelelcaro | Roey: so open up a wishlist bug for it to be built with python2.4 |
| 01:32.42 | Roey | dondelelcaro: ok. |
| 01:32.45 | dondelelcaro | it's not like it's all that difficult to do if you want it build against python2.4 anyway |
| 01:32.50 | abrotman | Roey: append the other bug .. and ask for the new package |
| 01:32.57 | abrotman | err Roey that's two seperate bugs |
| 01:33.36 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah, it probably got removed from etch because of #327949 and #304407 |
| 01:33.37 | abrotman | Guerin: denied! |
| 01:33.40 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 327949 |
| 01:33.43 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 304407 |
| 01:33.43 | dpkg | #327949:G[python-kde3] python-kde3: uninstallable; needs rebuild for the Qt/KDE transition; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:04:00 UTC |
| 01:33.46 | dpkg | #304407:S[python-kde3] python-kde3: FTBFS (amd64/gcc-4.0): invalid cast of an rvalue expression of type 'QValueList<KURL>' to type 'const KURL::List&'; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:18:04 UTC |
| 01:33.49 | Roey | abrotman: what, one to fix python2.3-kde3 and another to add python2.4-kde3? |
| 01:33.52 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: yeah .. that's what Roey was asking about .. |
| 01:34.01 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: but i thought the rebuilds were automagic ? |
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| 01:34.13 | abrotman | Roey: that's what i'd do |
| 01:34.14 | fbi | ehm. maybe i can't print yet. parallel port should be /dev/lp0 , yes? |
| 01:34.23 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: no, a maintainer has to make an upload to trigger a rebuild. |
| 01:34.26 | Roey | abrotman, dondelelcaro: brb, need to brush my teeth before the sugar destroys them. |
| 01:34.27 | fbi | i can't print a test page |
| 01:34.31 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ah .. that stinks :) |
| 01:34.37 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: but that package has so many other problems that no one has probably bothered |
| 01:34.43 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:34.44 | dondelelcaro | (esp. since it's not holding up the transition) |
| 01:35.28 | Roey | aww :( |
| 01:35.29 | gentgeen__ | Can I take my current testing box, change the source.list, and get the SkoleLinux packages |
| 01:35.51 | PerfDave | gentgeen__: Ask #skolelinux? :) |
| 01:36.13 | dondelelcaro | I thought most of the skolelinux packages were already in debian... |
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| 01:36.26 | fas3r | hi all |
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| 01:36.56 | fbi | cups is giving me this: Jobs Error: client-error-not-possible |
| 01:37.19 | abrotman | fbi: i'd blame Apple |
| 01:37.29 | fbi | alrighty then. |
| 01:38.00 | Phated | Heh. |
| 01:38.13 | findmel | fbi, lovely id |
| 01:38.27 | fbi | you saw my driver's license? |
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| 01:39.17 | nimakh | hurray for firewalls |
| 01:39.24 | nimakh | oops |
| 01:39.24 | fbi | was i supposed to install cups-client? |
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| 01:39.37 | nimakh | wrong window :-P |
| 01:39.44 | Haukr | well i installed xwindows and everything but now i get an error :( |
| 01:39.45 | Haukr | its |
| 01:39.53 | fbi | uh, oh. |
| 01:40.00 | abrotman | debhelper: prepare the cannon |
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| 01:40.15 | fbi | Haukr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:40.25 | fbi | Haukr: and don't lie to debconf, about _anything_. |
| 01:40.35 | Seb | Haukr: make sure you paste only the (EE) lines, if you really have to paste |
| 01:40.43 | Haukr | Fatal Io error 104 (connection reser by peer) on X server ":o.o" after 0 requests (o known prosessed ) with 0 events |
| 01:40.49 | Seb | cuz debconf *will* find out eventually, heh |
| 01:41.14 | johaBBa | heh |
| 01:41.21 | johaBBa | no you can't |
| 01:41.23 | Haukr | Im no longer in debain becuase it dont work |
| 01:41.32 | Haukr | i cant even get into kde or gnome |
| 01:41.34 | Seb | Haukr: ah, good thing you mention this now |
| 01:41.39 | fbi | Haukr: you do realize you can connect to irc without X, right... |
| 01:41.42 | sussudio | Haukr: don't let the door hit you on the way out. |
| 01:41.45 | magyar | i have an intel 810 graphics card with NTSC output to a TV set. Wehn i try to playback a video file in mplayer the screen is blank. This works fine in windoz |
| 01:42.01 | Seb | magyar: play with the -vo options |
| 01:42.06 | Seb | magyar: or use something decent. Like vlc. |
| 01:42.09 | Haukr | Can somone help me? |
| 01:42.11 | FliesLikeALap | vlc |
| 01:42.19 | Gnea | Haukr: apt-get install irssi |
| 01:42.23 | Gnea | Haukr: apt-get install irssi-text |
| 01:42.25 | Gnea | rather |
| 01:42.26 | Haukr | huh? |
| 01:42.31 | Gnea | Haukr: apt-get install irssi-text |
| 01:42.35 | Haukr | Wtf i want a wm working |
| 01:42.37 | magyar | Seb: thanks |
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| 01:42.42 | Seb | np |
| 01:42.43 | Gnea | then do that. |
| 01:42.47 | Gnea | and get on here |
| 01:42.50 | Gnea | in linux |
| 01:42.53 | abrotman | Gnea: get it ? |
| 01:42.59 | Gnea | none of this switching to/from windows crap |
| 01:42.59 | Haukr | i will try... brb |
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| 01:43.01 | Seb | Haukr: yeah you'll need to be in linux of you want help holmes |
| 01:43.01 | abrotman | Gnea: you ignored me?!!? |
| 01:43.05 | Gnea | abrotman: lol |
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| 01:43.12 | abrotman | Gnea: you didn't use what i sent?! |
| 01:43.14 | Seb | who would do such a thing ? |
| 01:43.14 | Gnea | abrotman: almost... |
| 01:43.35 | Gnea | abrotman: you sent crap? :) so i spewed it all over the highway? ;) |
| 01:43.46 | abrotman | Gnea: ah .. you were on your way home ? |
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| 01:43.57 | abrotman | you ask for help .. then get dinner .. i see how it is |
| 01:43.57 | Gnea | yup |
| 01:44.05 | Gnea | actually i skipped dinner |
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| 01:44.33 | Seb | oy |
| 01:44.34 | sussudio | you're poor kenny |
| 01:44.35 | thingfish | it's not that hard to eat "poor". |
| 01:44.44 | sussudio | eat the poor! |
| 01:44.46 | abrotman | ramen noodles |
| 01:44.47 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:44.50 | Gnea | yeah true |
| 01:44.53 | sussudio | it's a modest proposal. |
| 01:44.54 | thingfish | wasn't that a dead kennedy's song? |
| 01:44.57 | abrotman | Gnea: /msg dpkg poutine |
| 01:45.02 | Gnea | uh oh |
| 01:45.11 | Gnea | i already know all about that one |
| 01:45.16 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:45.16 | fbi | dead kennedys tune was 'kill the poor' |
| 01:45.21 | PerfDave | Cheap and tasty! |
| 01:45.21 | thingfish | that's right |
| 01:45.33 | thingfish | yep |
| 01:45.43 | abrotman | where's secher_ ? |
| 01:45.44 | thingfish | plus oatmeal is good for you. |
| 01:45.56 | Gnea | i gotta get to the store again heh |
| 01:46.10 | Gnea | but.. samba sucks |
| 01:46.23 | abrotman | Gnea: i think it will be ok if you use your credit card to charge a 30 pack of ramen noodles :) |
| 01:46.34 | abrotman | which will cost only $4.74 :) |
| 01:46.38 | Gnea | lol |
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| 01:47.05 | Gnea | i just don't care :) |
| 01:47.05 | Seb | Gnea: also consider how cheap a way is it to get your cholesterol to sky-rocketing levels :) |
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| 01:47.17 | abrotman | Gnea: scrapple is cheap! |
| 01:47.21 | Seb | s/is it/it is/ |
| 01:47.30 | abrotman | so is calf liver actually |
| 01:47.33 | Gnea | that's okay, i'll have a heart attack one way or another |
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| 01:47.44 | Gnea | and be lonely for the rest of my painful days |
| 01:47.48 | Gnea | so it'll all work out |
| 01:47.52 | Gnea | :P |
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| 01:48.14 | abrotman | Haukr: you can't be root and speak here |
| 01:48.20 | fbi | ew! scrapple! i ate that when i was there! |
| 01:48.23 | Gnea | Haukr: great! next step should be to login as a regular user and irc |
| 01:48.25 | thingfish | ooh I love scrapple! |
| 01:48.27 | abrotman | fbi: that's just sick |
| 01:48.34 | fbi | that's a great food to stare at when you're hungover. |
| 01:48.34 | abrotman | thingfish: that's gross!!!! |
| 01:48.38 | Gnea | hey he listens |
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| 01:48.42 | thingfish | no way. it's dee-lish. |
| 01:48.50 | abrotman | i do eat liver though |
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| 01:49.01 | Seb | Gnea: yeah, unbelievable huh ? :) |
| 01:49.01 | Haukr | woops |
| 01:49.04 | abrotman | Haukr: yay! |
| 01:49.06 | Gnea | Haukr: now what's the problem with X? |
| 01:49.08 | thingfish | liver is good too - slice it thin, cook it real quick. |
| 01:49.16 | Haukr | it gives me a error wich i put on erlyer |
| 01:49.20 | Haukr | earlyer |
| 01:49.21 | soapee01 | I'm trying to compile intraperson (written for FC3) on my sarge box and I'm running into a couple of distro-distro probs. ./configure (autoconf) tells mechecking for SSL_library_init in -lssl... no, configure: error: openssl lib not found. tried linking libssl and libcrypto w/o success. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 01:49.22 | Seb | chopped liver |
| 01:49.24 | Haukr | like im not in xwindows |
| 01:49.28 | abrotman | Seb: good stuff too |
| 01:49.28 | Seb | there's a reason for the saying I guess |
| 01:49.30 | fbi | Haukr: i told you what to do. reconfigure X |
| 01:49.30 | Haukr | it dont owrk |
| 01:49.33 | Haukr | How |
| 01:49.36 | Gnea | Haukr: that's fine, is your mouse working in console? |
| 01:49.36 | abrotman | thingfish: with bacon! |
| 01:49.41 | thingfish | oh yes |
| 01:49.43 | Piggy | o_o |
| 01:49.45 | abrotman | !drxx Haukr |
| 01:49.45 | Haukr | There is no mouse option |
| 01:49.46 | dpkg | Haukr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:49.50 | abrotman | Piggy: yes .. BACON! |
| 01:49.50 | fbi | Haukr: you need exact info about your input devices and video hardware. |
| 01:49.51 | Gnea | Haukr: apt-get install gpm |
| 01:49.56 | Gnea | Haukr: there will be :) |
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| 01:50.11 | Haukr | Fbi how do i get it |
| 01:50.11 | abrotman | gpm ? |
| 01:50.12 | Seb | soapee01: tell upstream to figure their autotools scripts :\ |
| 01:50.16 | abrotman | oh god .. no .. no gpm |
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| 01:50.41 | abrotman | gravity: vigorously? |
| 01:50.41 | Gnea | gpm owns you. |
| 01:50.50 | fbi | Haukr: since you seem to not know, i would advise booting a live cd such as knoppix and paying attn to the boot process. |
| 01:50.52 | gravity | gpm is and always was the devil |
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| 01:50.55 | soapee01 | Seb: What specifically should I tell them, or should that make sense to the author? |
| 01:50.57 | thingfish | resiak: save me a loin roast, will you? |
| 01:50.58 | fbi | either that or open up your box and look. |
| 01:50.59 | Haukr | Erm.... |
| 01:51.06 | abrotman | resiak: math! |
| 01:51.06 | Haukr | i have suse linux already on my computor |
| 01:51.13 | Seb | soapee01: hrm you have libssl...-dev right ? |
| 01:51.15 | abrotman | !intel 865 |
| 01:51.15 | dpkg | well, intel 865 is http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html and http://www.iki.fi/karvinen/865patch_0.2-3_i386.deb |
| 01:51.18 | Gnea | what the fuck |
| 01:51.21 | gravity | Haukr: Install discover, read-edid, and mdetect. Then afterwards run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:51.23 | Gnea | Haukr: suse? |
| 01:51.29 | fbi | Haukr: you need to know sync ranges for your monitor too |
| 01:51.32 | Seb | soapee01: apt-cache search ssl | grep dev |
| 01:51.34 | soapee01 | Seb: I'll check. |
| 01:51.42 | fbi | Haukr: look at your X config in suse. |
| 01:51.46 | Seb | soapee01: you're prolly missing some include files, which is why ./configure fails miserably |
| 01:51.47 | fbi | (if X works) |
| 01:51.47 | Haukr | how? |
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| 01:51.53 | Gnea | Haukr: mount it |
| 01:51.53 | Haukr | and yes in suse x works |
| 01:51.56 | resiak | abrotman: Yeah yeah |
| 01:52.00 | Gnea | Haukr: mkdir /mnt/suse |
| 01:52.04 | Haukr | and how do i look at it in suse? like what do i type in terminal |
| 01:52.07 | Haukr | and whaaa? |
| 01:52.12 | gravity | Oh man |
| 01:52.13 | gamerz | ive updated my debian kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.12, the load avrage JUMP, is it normal |
| 01:52.14 | fbi | he's telling you now. shut up and listen. |
| 01:52.19 | abrotman | Haukr: grep EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log .. anything good come out ? |
| 01:52.20 | Gnea | Haukr: then mount the partition suse is on to /mnt/suse |
| 01:52.27 | abrotman | gamerz: JUMP why? |
| 01:52.30 | Gnea | fbi: yeah i get it |
| 01:52.37 | gravity | Just let him copy his working config over. He's too lazy to figure it out himself. |
| 01:52.38 | abrotman | Gnea: suse uses xorg .. not xfree |
| 01:52.40 | Haukr | im seriously confused im sorry guys im just confused |
| 01:52.49 | gravity | abrotman: It doesn't matter. |
| 01:52.49 | abrotman | it might not be a config issue ... |
| 01:52.52 | Gnea | abrotman: who gives a flying pigs toe? |
| 01:52.54 | gravity | abrotman: Same config. Different name. |
| 01:52.56 | fbi | abrotman: the config will still tell him what he needs to know |
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| 01:53.02 | abrotman | Gnea: the toes fly? |
| 01:53.10 | gravity | Haukr: Do you know the partition that you put SuSE on? |
| 01:53.14 | Haukr | sorta |
| 01:53.16 | Seb | Haukr: can you paste the (EE) lines you get when you type 'startx' ? |
| 01:53.18 | gravity | "sorta"? |
| 01:53.27 | gamerz | after each prosess i start, the load is higher than it was on 2.4 |
| 01:53.27 | Gnea | Haukr: if you type df, you'll see what partitions are currently mounted - do it. |
| 01:53.32 | Haukr | df |
| 01:53.34 | Haukr | oops |
| 01:53.36 | Haukr | ok erm brb |
| 01:53.37 | Gnea | lol |
| 01:53.37 | Seb | gravity: i think we should forget about his suse config right away, and try straight frmo debian :) |
| 01:53.38 | Haukr | exit |
| 01:53.40 | Gnea | wait |
| 01:53.41 | Seb | abrotman: cmon |
| 01:53.41 | Gnea | WAIT |
| 01:53.41 | fbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.43 | Haukr | what? |
| 01:53.44 | Seb | abrotman: it rocks |
| 01:53.44 | Gnea | do not exit |
| 01:53.44 | fbi | or detach |
| 01:53.48 | Haukr | why not? |
| 01:53.53 | abrotman | Seb: ok .. not jackd .. jack .. do you use it ? |
| 01:53.54 | gravity | Seb: You haven't spent any time with this one. |
| 01:53.55 | Gnea | Haukr: press alt+F2, then alt+F1 |
| 01:53.57 | soapee01 | Seb: installing libssl-dev got me one step closer... will google the next errors... thx |
| 01:53.58 | gravity | Seb: He's useless |
| 01:54.00 | Seb | abrotman: yes I do |
| 01:54.02 | Haukr | BA |
| 01:54.07 | abrotman | Seb: explain --replace-chars |
| 01:54.11 | Gnea | hahahaha |
| 01:54.20 | abrotman | i'm useless? |
| 01:54.27 | Seb | soapee01: prolly most other errors will be due to some -dev package missing. But now you know the drill ;) |
| 01:54.29 | Haukr | ok erm |
| 01:54.30 | abrotman | i fixed your stuff! |
| 01:54.31 | Gnea | Haukr: this isn't windows, you're not limited to a single terminal screen ;) |
| 01:54.35 | Seb | abrotman: i don't use this option :) |
| 01:54.45 | Haukr | uhh |
| 01:54.45 | abrotman | Seb: see .. that's no help :) |
| 01:54.49 | Haukr | ok i cant copy |
| 01:54.53 | Haukr | i cant use my mouse |
| 01:54.57 | Haukr | theres no option to |
| 01:55.04 | Seb | abrotman: haha, nevertheless it works great for me ;) What you trying to do ? |
| 01:55.07 | abrotman | Seb: i tried to use --unusable-chars and --replacement-chars to remove spaces from the file names .. but no go |
| 01:55.08 | Gnea | Haukr: that's why - login with root on tty2 (you're probably on tty1 right now) |
| 01:55.16 | Gnea | Haukr: and apt-get install gpm there |
| 01:55.18 | Haukr | How do i do it? |
| 01:55.27 | Seb | abrotman: ah i see. I like spaces in my mp3 names, heh... |
| 01:55.34 | Haukr | how do i go on tty2? |
| 01:55.38 | Seb | Haukr: Alt-f2, alt-f1 to go back |
| 01:55.40 | abrotman | Seb: spaces don't belong in any filename .. on any OS .. for any reason :) |
| 01:55.41 | Gnea | Haukr: ok look, you're screen is probably all black with a blue bar across the bottom and all of this text scrolling by, right? |
| 01:55.43 | Seb | Haukr: you've been told that already |
| 01:55.50 | Haukr | Yes |
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| 01:55.54 | Seb | abrotman: i knew I was gonna be called an heretic for that ;) |
| 01:56.02 | abrotman | Seb: it's a personal quirk . |
| 01:56.12 | Seb | abrotman: it's one many people sare though |
| 01:56.14 | Seb | share |
| 01:56.19 | Gnea | Haukr: ok, now if you hold down the left alt key, and press any of the f-keys (from f1-f6) you can change your tty (terminal) |
| 01:56.24 | abrotman | Seb: yeah .. but jack has no option for this .. |
| 01:56.32 | Seb | abrotman: hmm |
| 01:56.32 | Gnea | Haukr: right now you're at tty1, AKA alt-f1 |
| 01:56.34 | resiak | abrotman: FFTSAP |
| 01:56.38 | abrotman | Seb: azeem is the maintainer .. maybe he'll know more .. but i think he's sleeping |
| 01:56.42 | Haukr | ohh ok so tty2! |
| 01:56.45 | abrotman | resiak: fwap fwap ? |
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| 01:56.48 | Seb | man, when you have to start explaining the concept of sumultanesouly pressing on keys, it gets bad |
| 01:56.50 | Haukr | ok so login as root and do what? |
| 01:56.51 | gamerz | abrotman and, why when ive kill prosess gdm, my computer just scrash :S, after an uptime of 78 days :S |
| 01:56.57 | Gnea | apt-get install gpm |
| 01:57.13 | abrotman | gamerz: you're using nvidia ? |
| 01:57.16 | gamerz | ati |
| 01:57.23 | gamerz | 9000 pro |
| 01:57.26 | abrotman | and you reinstalled the ATI flobbers? |
| 01:57.27 | resiak | abrotman: Feel free to submit a patch |
| 01:57.32 | resiak | ATI in "shit" shocker ? |
| 01:57.34 | abrotman | resiak: it's python! |
| 01:57.42 | resiak | abrotman: UNCLEAN |
| 01:57.51 | abrotman | resiak: i'd like to make sure it's not capable .. |
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| 01:57.54 | gamerz | dati drivers installed |
| 01:58.04 | gamerz | it just crash after i kill gdm |
| 01:58.14 | Haukr | dont i think |
| 01:58.18 | Haukr | done i think |
| 01:58.26 | Haukr | now what try to startx? |
| 01:58.29 | abrotman | gamerz: check some of the logs |
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| 01:58.32 | Gnea | no wait |
| 01:58.34 | Haukr | what |
| 01:58.36 | abrotman | yes wait! |
| 01:58.41 | gamerz | num lock on keyboard not respond, so ive restart and update on unstable +2.6.12 kernel |
| 01:58.42 | resiak | maybe wait? |
| 01:58.45 | Haukr | what do i do now? |
| 01:58.47 | Gnea | can you move the mouse cursor now? |
| 01:58.51 | gamerz | abrotman kk |
| 01:58.51 | Haukr | no |
| 01:58.54 | abrotman | resiak: wait .. wait .. i never had a chance to love you! |
| 01:58.58 | Haukr | there is no cursor |
| 01:59.03 | resiak | :screw abrotman |
| 01:59.08 | Gnea | then go back to tty2 and run gpmconfig |
| 01:59.10 | abrotman | resiak: white lion ? |
| 01:59.11 | resiak | ACK! |
| 01:59.47 | Haukr | ok now what? |
| 01:59.53 | Haukr | that blue screen opened again |
| 01:59.53 | Gnea | is it working? |
| 01:59.58 | abrotman | was it white lion? |
| 02:00.02 | Gnea | what blue screen? |
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| 02:00.13 | Haukr | Bconfigure gpm |
| 02:00.18 | Haukr | configure gpm |
| 02:00.21 | Gnea | right |
| 02:00.27 | Gnea | that's all you should do |
| 02:00.30 | Gnea | and follow the prompts |
| 02:00.31 | gravity | ugh |
| 02:00.35 | Gnea | until the mouse works in console |
| 02:00.35 | Haukr | ok... |
| 02:00.40 | abrotman | gravity: you dn't like White Lion ? |
| 02:00.44 | resiak | Can I hand out about 100 copies of !enter please? |
| 02:00.53 | abrotman | resiak: |
| 02:00.54 | abrotman | why? |
| 02:01.01 | resiak | abrotman: Because this |
| 02:01.04 | resiak | channel is |
| 02:01.09 | resiak | scrolling reeeeeaaaaaaa |
| 02:01.10 | Gnea | resiak: why bother? i've got a billion stashed away somewhere near ;) |
| 02:01.12 | resiak | aaaaaaly fast! |
| 02:01.16 | abrotman | hheeh |
| 02:01.22 | resiak | abrotman: ITYM hehe |
| 02:01.22 | resiak | h |
| 02:01.23 | Haukr | ok for my mouse it says autoops2 |
| 02:01.33 | Haukr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:01.40 | Gnea | ok, and what kind of mouse is it? ps2 or usb? |
| 02:01.46 | abrotman | ps/2 |
| 02:01.46 | Haukr | how do i know tho? |
| 02:01.47 | abrotman | duh |
| 02:01.54 | Gnea | what port did it plug into? |
| 02:02.01 | Gnea | the circle or the rectangle? |
| 02:02.12 | stew | hah |
| 02:02.15 | Haukr | one sec |
| 02:02.17 | Gnea | trapezoid! |
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| 02:02.36 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 02:02.46 | resiak | \o/ |
| 02:02.54 | resiak | !tell me about room |
| 02:03.02 | Gnea | o/~ put your hands in the air like you really don't care! o/~ |
| 02:03.09 | gamerz | abrotman it was just because before, NEVER i have got crashing problem with debian, it one of my favorite distrib with slackware, thx for your time :) |
| 02:03.12 | abrotman | Gnea: white lion rocks! |
| 02:03.13 | Tortel | !dance |
| 02:03.17 | Haukr | rectingle |
| 02:03.25 | abrotman | gamerz: you can't go back to 2.4 ? |
| 02:03.26 | Gnea | abrotman: what the..? |
| 02:03.29 | Gnea | Haukr: ok, it's usb |
| 02:03.30 | gamerz | i can |
| 02:03.32 | abrotman | Gnea: you love white lion! |
| 02:03.34 | gamerz | and ive do it |
| 02:03.38 | Haukr | ok so go i change that? |
| 02:03.46 | Gnea | Haukr: yeah go with autops2 |
| 02:03.53 | Haukr | thats what i did last time |
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| 02:04.00 | Haukr | ok |
| 02:04.03 | Gnea | what device did you choose? |
| 02:04.34 | gamerz | abrotman on 2.4 debian just NEVER load, deb kivck ass :) |
| 02:04.38 | Haukr | one sec im getting more menus |
| 02:04.43 | abrotman | uhm .. ok |
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| 02:05.07 | Haukr | ok now |
| 02:05.10 | Haukr | ok its all done |
| 02:05.12 | Haukr | still no mouse tho |
| 02:05.15 | Gnea | ok |
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| 02:05.21 | Gnea | now do this |
| 02:05.25 | gamerz | abrotman, sory for my english im just usaly speak french |
| 02:05.26 | Gnea | cat /proc/input/mice |
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| 02:05.38 | abrotman | !fr |
| 02:05.39 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 02:05.43 | Gnea | Haukr: while doing that, move the mouse around - does your screen fill up with crap? |
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| 02:06.13 | Haukr | erm if i do that it says it dont exist |
| 02:06.18 | Gnea | ah ha |
| 02:06.33 | Gnea | cat /dev/input/mice |
| 02:06.36 | Gnea | see if that one works |
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| 02:06.48 | Haukr | odd letters |
| 02:06.53 | Gnea | ? |
| 02:06.59 | Haukr | and if i move the ouse it fills up with something |
| 02:07.06 | Gnea | oh cool |
| 02:07.07 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:07.09 | abrotman | colin@system:~$ ? :) |
| 02:07.20 | Haukr | uhh ok... |
| 02:07.23 | Haukr | Now what do i do? |
| 02:07.28 | abrotman | Gnea: sorry |
| 02:07.31 | Gnea | go back to gpmconfig |
| 02:07.43 | Gnea | Haukr: and when it asks for a device, tell it /dev/input/mice |
| 02:07.43 | Haukr | i cant.... |
| 02:07.46 | Gnea | abrotman: hhaaha np |
| 02:07.51 | Gnea | Haukr: why not? |
| 02:07.51 | Haukr | i cant Gnea |
| 02:07.59 | Gnea | oh |
| 02:08.01 | Haukr | if i type its still in messed up text |
| 02:08.03 | Gnea | type ctrl-c |
| 02:08.16 | resiak | type reset<ENTER> , more like :) |
| 02:08.18 | Haukr | its still in messed up letters |
| 02:08.29 | Haukr | ok thats better |
| 02:08.32 | Gnea | :) |
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| 02:09.55 | Haukr | woot a mouse |
| 02:09.55 | Haukr | :D |
| 02:09.55 | abrotman | !kill the mouse |
| 02:09.55 | Haukr | rofl |
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| 02:10.00 | Haukr | Gnea: what now :D |
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| 02:10.13 | Gnea | Haukr: ok now try to startx |
| 02:10.36 | abrotman | what are his EE lines again ? |
| 02:10.38 | Haukr | how do i copy? |
| 02:10.43 | abrotman | lspci | grep -i vga ? |
| 02:10.50 | Gnea | with left button, paste with middle |
| 02:11.12 | Gnea | just don't paste more than 2 lines |
| 02:11.14 | Haukr | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 02:11.14 | Haukr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:11.21 | Gnea | hrm |
| 02:11.23 | Gnea | ok |
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| 02:11.41 | abrotman | Haukr: /exec -o lspci | grep -i vga |
| 02:11.51 | abrotman | Haukr: in your irc window |
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| 02:12.03 | gravity | That error message is useless |
| 02:12.07 | Gnea | now type X by itself - see if you at least get a grey screen and X cursor that moves around - if so, then you can pretty ctrl-alt-backspace to kill it - if not, ctrl-alt-f1 to get back here |
| 02:12.10 | abrotman | gravity: you don't say :) |
| 02:12.33 | abrotman | gravity: can you fix Xorg ... |
| 02:12.34 | Haukr | l server error: |
| 02:12.34 | Haukr | no screens found |
| 02:12.39 | abrotman | Haukr: /exec -o lspci | grep -i vga |
| 02:12.41 | abrotman | Haukr: in your irc window |
| 02:12.48 | Haukr | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.53 | Gnea | Haukr: listen to gravity and abrotman :) |
| 02:12.59 | abrotman | Haukr: no space at the front :) |
| 02:13.15 | Haukr | /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;' |
| 02:13.15 | Haukr | /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `;spco | grep -i vga' |
| 02:13.23 | abrotman | wtf ? |
| 02:13.30 | abrotman | Haukr: try again :) |
| 02:13.30 | Gnea | lspci not ;spco |
| 02:13.33 | Haukr | oops |
| 02:13.34 | gravity | Just look at the damn log file and maybe post it somewhere if you can manage it |
| 02:13.41 | gravity | That'll actually be informative |
| 02:13.54 | Gnea | gravity: have you been paying much attention? :) |
| 02:13.57 | abrotman | i just want to make sure he doesnt' have an S3 :) |
| 02:14.02 | Haukr | 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) |
| 02:14.06 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 02:14.07 | Gnea | heh |
| 02:14.08 | Gnea | cool |
| 02:14.18 | abrotman | Haukr: next stop .. /join #flood |
| 02:14.21 | lokou | hi! |
| 02:14.27 | Haukr | fo what? |
| 02:14.32 | abrotman | Haukr: to flood ? |
| 02:14.33 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:14.39 | Haukr | what am i going to post? |
| 02:14.44 | Gnea | Haukr: cuz now he's gonna help you with more |
| 02:14.44 | abrotman | Haukr: stuff! |
| 02:14.50 | Haukr | ok |
| 02:15.08 | lokou | . |
| 02:15.10 | Haukr | ok im in flood |
| 02:15.17 | lokou | w |
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| 02:16.51 | lokou | h |
| 02:16.52 | lokou | l |
| 02:16.52 | lokou | f |
| 02:16.53 | lokou | u |
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| 02:17.20 | abrotman | wow .. that's Mensa material |
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| 02:17.43 | gravity | abrotman: Nice going |
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| 02:17.48 | abrotman | what? |
| 02:17.57 | abrotman | why is it always my fault ? |
| 02:18.08 | Tortel | Question about apache: Can I change permissions on /var/www without killing anything? |
| 02:18.15 | gravity | heh, that was a compliment. I can't believe you managed to get useful info out of him |
| 02:18.19 | jdhutchin1 | Tortel, depends what you change them to |
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| 02:18.39 | Tortel | Well, so my account can modify folders/files |
| 02:18.41 | bob2 | Tortel: do not make www-data own it, but it's safe to make your uid own it |
| 02:18.44 | bob2 | that's cool |
| 02:18.53 | Tortel | ok |
| 02:18.54 | Tortel | ty |
| 02:19.04 | unsurreal | anyone a kde guru? |
| 02:19.07 | abrotman | gravity: hehe |
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| 02:19.30 | Coweater | unsurreal: no, ask the question anyway |
| 02:20.10 | unsurreal | With konqueror(3.4.3) in kubuntu, and only kubuntu, when browsing a windows ntfs folder with all my music in it, it makes my entire system choppy and basically unusable |
| 02:20.19 | Phated | #kubuntu? |
| 02:20.24 | unsurreal | nautilus works but i dont really despise gnome |
| 02:20.28 | unsurreal | #kubuntu is useless |
| 02:20.30 | PerfDave | unsurreal: You probably want #kubuntu or #ubuntu, this channel is for Debian :) |
| 02:20.35 | abrotman | !they don't know |
| 02:20.35 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 02:20.36 | PerfDave | !they don't know |
| 02:20.38 | unsurreal | tried them both |
| 02:20.39 | PerfDave | Damnit! |
| 02:20.40 | abrotman | ha! .. i beat Guerin ! |
| 02:20.42 | unsurreal | and #kde |
| 02:20.56 | Phated | Damnit abrotman! |
| 02:20.58 | PerfDave | unsurreal: Well, try a mailing list or somethign :) |
| 02:21.04 | Tortel | My suggestion: Try another program |
| 02:21.12 | unsurreal | good call |
| 02:21.50 | Tortel | If I give people ovbious answers, its cause I have finally mastered the ovbious |
| 02:22.02 | unsurreal | and can someone msg me a dpkg --get-selections | grep kde |
| 02:22.07 | abrotman | Tortel: what you say? |
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| 02:22.38 | Tortel | If I give really duh answers |
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| 02:22.44 | jdhutchin1 | unsurreal, everyone's will be different and debian and kubuntu are two different repositories |
| 02:22.50 | Tortel | Its cause I am master of the duh |
| 02:23.21 | Gnea | !duh |
| 02:23.21 | dpkg | hmm... duh is an exclamation showing absence of common knowledge, or <reply> no shit sherlock |
| 02:23.40 | unsurreal | jdhutchin1: very much agreed, but ive been using linux for years and just now this problem arrises |
| 02:23.47 | sandos | hmm |
| 02:24.00 | sandos | my apt cannot verify libcurl3-openssl-dev |
| 02:24.08 | sandos | should I worry, file bug or something? =) |
| 02:24.10 | Gnea | sandos: that sucks |
| 02:24.10 | jdhutchin1 | unsurreal, it most likely has nothing to do with kde, it's probably something kubuntu does |
| 02:24.21 | Gnea | sandos: what repository are you using? |
| 02:24.23 | jdhutchin1 | unsurreal, which is why you need to ask somewhere where they actually know about kubunbu |
| 02:24.27 | sandos | ftp.du.se |
| 02:24.40 | bob2 | unsurreal: sorry, you're in the wrong channel |
| 02:24.46 | Gnea | see if you can wget ftp://ftp.du.se/archive.key |
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| 02:25.09 | Gnea | unsurreal: it's probably nautilus, it has a history of sucking ass |
| 02:25.19 | unsurreal | nautilus is the one that works |
| 02:25.21 | unsurreal | lol |
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| 02:25.27 | sandos | no such file |
| 02:25.29 | abrotman | unsurreal: you're still in the wrong channel |
| 02:25.29 | jdhutchin1 | nautilus is gnome, not kde, Gnea |
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| 02:25.37 | Gnea | jdhutchin1: exactly. :) |
| 02:25.39 | unsurreal | just seems like im runnin out of places to go |
| 02:25.46 | jdhutchin1 | mailing lists |
| 02:25.53 | jdhutchin1 | there's more to computer help than irc, believe it or not |
| 02:25.55 | unsurreal | yea im joinin right now |
| 02:25.58 | bob2 | unsurreal: if something in kubuntu is buggy, ask on their mailing lists, irc channel or file a bug |
| 02:26.12 | bob2 | bugging unrelated channels is not an acceptable alternative |
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| 02:26.31 | unsurreal | is it so much to ask tho? |
| 02:26.31 | Gnea | bob2: but it points him in the right direction |
| 02:26.39 | Gnea | unsurreal: yes |
| 02:26.39 | Tortel | How can I tell my IP? |
| 02:26.42 | bob2 | yes, and now unsurreal knows where to ask |
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| 02:27.01 | bob2 | Tortel: depends what you mean. "ifconfig" will show you IPs asigned to inerfaces on your machine |
| 02:27.13 | Tortel | My non-private IP |
| 02:27.15 | bob2 | Tortel: if you mean public IP while you're NAT'd, try www.whatismyip.com or whatever |
| 02:27.21 | Gnea | Tortel: ifconfig |
| 02:28.20 | Tortel | ty |
| 02:28.37 | victor_ | the menu of elive is compatible whit debian?? |
| 02:28.50 | victor_ | for install ?? |
| 02:28.55 | bob2 | elive sounds like something entirely unrelated to Debian |
| 02:28.58 | bob2 | you'll need to ask them |
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| 02:29.19 | Guerin | victor_: you got banned a few days ago for repeatedly asking about this |
| 02:29.19 | Phated | bob2: They'll say Debian is unrelated to elive and send him to ask. :) |
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| 02:29.30 | Gnea | is it okay to use more than one question mark ?? |
| 02:29.37 | Guerin | Gnea: no!!!!! |
| 02:29.41 | Gnea | hahahaha |
| 02:30.14 | victor_ | who |
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| 02:30.25 | Gnea | when |
| 02:30.30 | Guerin | victor_: you |
| 02:30.40 | pure2 | why |
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| 02:31.23 | SillyCone | how come if I update my kernel, from the installation CD, reboot, and then try to apt-get something else, it does not see my cdrom? |
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| 02:31.49 | Tortel | SillyCone: Try using the mount command to mount it |
| 02:31.55 | Tortel | if you have, no idea |
| 02:32.04 | Tortel | :P |
| 02:32.07 | victor_ | thank you |
| 02:32.13 | abrotman | Tortel: it's been like .. 5 minutes since you used the bot!?!? |
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| 02:32.30 | SillyCone | there is an entry in fstab for cdrom at /dev/hdd |
| 02:32.35 | paroneayea | anyone know of any good and relatively simple (command line is ok) wireless tools? |
| 02:32.38 | SillyCone | but dev/hdd does not exist |
| 02:32.42 | Gnea | SillyCone: is it mounted? |
| 02:32.43 | paroneayea | for finding and connecting to |
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| 02:33.08 | Tortel | abrotman: On 2.4 kernel, I had to mount CDs for gnome to see em |
| 02:33.19 | Guerin | Tortel: unbelievably |
| 02:33.24 | Tortel | :P |
| 02:33.32 | abrotman | Tortel: ok .. sorry to hear that |
| 02:33.55 | Tortel | Im tring to get a DNS+BIND server working now |
| 02:34.00 | Tortel | :( |
| 02:34.05 | Tortel | lots of words to read |
| 02:34.35 | abrotman | gravity: what do you know about the "intel 865" factiod ? |
| 02:34.48 | bob2 | BIND is a DNS server |
| 02:34.56 | Tortel | yea, that |
| 02:34.57 | Tortel | :P |
| 02:35.07 | Phated | In soviet Russia, the words read you. |
| 02:35.18 | Tortel | :O |
| 02:35.42 | abrotman | it's .xsession-errors with startx ? |
| 02:36.05 | bob2 | yeah |
| 02:36.43 | fas3r | hi all |
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| 02:38.33 | fas3r | i have a problem for modify xorg.conf ... i have modify manually the files and i have make cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom && md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. but i go to see the files after this a don't see my section |
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| 02:40.25 | bookmark | would anyone help me? apt-setup gives me an error |
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| 02:41.10 | Guerin | bookmark: what error? |
| 02:41.16 | abrotman | oh .. errors .. i love errors! |
| 02:41.22 | wasabi | Looking for some sort of utility that will scan an entire disk and try to find pieces of partitions and reconstruct the partition table. |
| 02:41.29 | bookmark | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 02:41.33 | Guerin | error-monster: ENOBACON |
| 02:41.34 | bookmark | warning i guess |
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| 02:41.46 | Guerin | bookmark: apt-get update |
| 02:42.02 | abrotman | bacon!? |
| 02:42.14 | abrotman | bookmark: dont use non-us sources |
| 02:42.16 | Guerin | abrotman: NOBACON |
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| 02:42.28 | abrotman | bacon! |
| 02:42.42 | Guerin | nobacon :( |
| 02:42.47 | bookmark | apt-setup still won't run |
| 02:42.50 | resiak | wasabi: gpart |
| 02:43.05 | fas3r | it's not possible to modify the files xorg.conf manually? |
| 02:43.12 | bob2 | sure it is |
| 02:43.58 | findmel | bob2, yo chief |
| 02:44.06 | abrotman | he's a captain |
| 02:44.14 | findmel | bob2, yo captain |
| 02:44.27 | abrotman | calljair: you there? |
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| 02:44.39 | findmel | he is gone shipping |
| 02:44.44 | abrotman | Chamita_: jair? |
| 02:44.46 | fas3r | and after i modify i make this no :" cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom && md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 02:45.00 | findmel | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.34 | abrotman | findmel: huh ? |
| 02:45.46 | findmel | just kidding!! |
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| 02:46.04 | abrotman | !smack findmel |
| 02:46.11 | findmel | !kiss findmel |
| 02:46.15 | bookmark | could anyone send me a sources.list? |
| 02:46.21 | bookmark | i think my dcc works |
| 02:46.30 | pinko | any tricks on getting a framebuffer driver to work? looks like a "/dev/fb0 not found" thing. |
| 02:46.37 | findmel | bookmark, US or non-us |
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| 02:46.44 | bookmark | doesn't matter |
| 02:46.50 | findmel | join #flood it is 3 lines |
| 02:46.57 | bookmark | k |
| 02:47.13 | bob2 | I'm a captain? |
| 02:47.24 | abrotman | bob2: would you rather be a chief? |
| 02:47.25 | findmel | yo captain |
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| 02:47.39 | pinko | there was an afwul movie called captain bob. probably what they were getting at. |
| 02:47.54 | abrotman | pr0n ? |
| 02:48.06 | bookmark | many thanks findmel! |
| 02:48.14 | bookmark | mel like maya? |
| 02:48.20 | bookmark | or the programmer guy? |
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| 02:48.24 | findmel | bookmark, hope you find it useful my freind!! Enjoy |
| 02:48.34 | bookmark | :) |
| 02:48.36 | bob2 | ah |
| 02:48.43 | salmenara | hello! |
| 02:48.58 | salmenara | In the console, how can I know what groups a user belong? |
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| 02:49.08 | findmel | salmenara, id ? |
| 02:49.20 | pinko | belongs, that'd be tough. |
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| 02:49.51 | jasam | hello, to see (in mozilla) web pages with text of the "Symbol" font in Linux, what must I do? thanks |
| 02:49.59 | Coweater | salmenara: groups username |
| 02:50.16 | salmenara | Coweater: great! |
| 02:50.21 | salmenara | I did the same with: cat /etc/group | grep -i salmenara |
| 02:50.29 | salmenara | but yours is faster |
| 02:50.53 | Coweater | no need for the cat in that statement, you can give grep the file argument instead of a pipe |
| 02:51.15 | salmenara | how? |
| 02:51.35 | pcengine | cat < xxx |
| 02:51.35 | Coweater | just grep -i salmenara /etc/group |
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| 02:51.48 | pcengine | ... |
| 02:52.15 | salmenara | Coweater: I have a lot ..... to learn :) |
| 02:52.24 | pcengine | to recall |
| 02:52.33 | pcengine | it's the common sense |
| 02:52.36 | zombi1 | grep is your friend |
| 02:52.48 | pcengine | cut |
| 02:52.51 | pcengine | either |
| 02:52.52 | findmel | egrep |
| 02:52.59 | zombi1 | grep thing_to_look_for file(s)_to_look_in |
| 02:53.01 | pcengine | grep |
| 02:53.16 | abrotman | ok .. fine .. |
| 02:53.19 | abrotman | gah .. |
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| 02:54.24 | pcengine | I have some cheap shell command books by cheap authors |
| 02:54.43 | pcengine | amazing |
| 02:55.58 | Roey | pcengine: isnt' that turbografx16 ? |
| 02:56.05 | zombi1 | Is there a simple command to rename a batch of files without using a script? |
| 02:56.10 | pcengine | no |
| 02:56.21 | pcengine | I am a cheap clone |
| 02:56.24 | Roey | =) |
| 02:56.38 | zombi1 | Gotta use variables eh? |
| 02:56.46 | pcengine | I am a cheap clone from the cheap contry |
| 02:56.47 | Guerin | zombi1: rename |
| 02:56.48 | abrotman | zombi1: rename ? |
| 02:56.52 | pcengine | country |
| 02:56.54 | Guerin | zombi1: but rename is a script, so... |
| 02:56.59 | findmel | zombi1, rename what? for i in `ls *.txt` do mv $i $i.old done |
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| 02:57.41 | zombi1 | ie bandname_songname.ogg to bandname_albumname_songname.ogg |
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| 02:58.17 | fid | this is off-topic, but does anyone here know about laptop hardware? |
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| 02:58.22 | fid | processors and upgrading them? |
| 02:58.23 | dondelelcaro | fid: just ask. |
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| 02:58.28 | Phated | rename 's/bandname_/bandname_albumname_/' ./* |
| 02:58.31 | Phated | :) |
| 02:58.32 | Guerin | fid: almost certainly impossible |
| 02:58.37 | dondelelcaro | if someone knows, they'll answer; if not, they won't. |
| 02:58.54 | fid | i'm looking at a new laptop which has nearly everything |
| 02:58.57 | fid | but it's a celeron |
| 02:59.07 | Gnea | what's wrong with a celeron |
| 02:59.08 | fid | the pentium m is just a bit out of my budget |
| 02:59.15 | zombi1 | Phated... coool |
| 02:59.17 | fid | any chance i could upgrade it later? |
| 02:59.22 | Guerin | fid: laptop cpus are typically affixed to the mainboard |
| 02:59.30 | Phated | zombi1: Just works are fun, aren't they. |
| 02:59.41 | nimak | fid: whats your budget? |
| 02:59.47 | Gnea | Guerin: sometimes they have their own board |
| 02:59.58 | fid | Gnea: i'm not a hardware guy, i've just heard the celeron's aren't as good. my current laptop (i'm on it now) is a celeron, and it does seem a bit slow |
| 03:00.00 | Guerin | fid: if it's a new laptop, a celeron will do all you need in power terms - but your battery life will be a bit lower than an equivalent machine with a pm |
| 03:00.02 | kl0ck | removable chips sort of died with the p3 |
| 03:00.11 | Guerin | Gnea: these days? |
| 03:00.11 | sussudio | http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=29&art_id=iol1130237451579B326 < "Badgers take over at prison" |
| 03:00.14 | Phated | zombi1: Granted, you need to have stuff in the directory that will match the pattern, but according to you, your files are all in bandname_songname.ogg already anyway. |
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| 03:00.15 | sussudio | w00t. |
| 03:00.21 | nimak | celerons have shitty caches |
| 03:00.23 | fid | nimak: ~1000, the pentium m is ~1400 |
| 03:00.35 | kl0ck | celerons are usually just p3s with cut down caches |
| 03:00.37 | Guerin | fid: get a slower pentium m |
| 03:00.45 | Gnea | fid: yeah, celerons do have shitty caches, but then it depends what you wanna do with it |
| 03:00.46 | zombi1 | rename - never thought UNIX would have that command |
| 03:00.49 | fid | so even though the laptop comes in a pentium m config, it's a separate board, not just the processor |
| 03:01.04 | nimak | fid: i would recommend HP's L2000 special edition |
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| 03:01.22 | Gnea | fid: these days better to just get a p4 system or an amd64 |
| 03:01.23 | kl0ck | fid: how much can you spend? |
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| 03:01.31 | nimak | they go for about 1000, depending on options, and they come with AMD64s |
| 03:01.41 | kl0ck | the turion64? |
| 03:01.42 | zombi1 | Phated... yep that is the plan |
| 03:01.45 | nimak | yeah |
| 03:01.52 | Guerin | see |
| 03:01.53 | fid | Guerin: the advertised battery life is pretty good (3.5 hours, we'll see if it's true). the laptop i'd like (acer aspire 9500, the keyboard really sold me on it, it has a numpad) is new, and doesn't come in a slower version |
| 03:01.59 | fid | at least, not that i've seen |
| 03:02.02 | kl0ck | bah |
| 03:02.03 | Guerin | what if you got a centrino chipset with a turion in it |
| 03:02.09 | Guerin | you's have a Centurion! |
| 03:02.12 | kl0ck | AHA! |
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| 03:02.28 | kl0ck | thats clever |
| 03:02.40 | Guerin | fid: so more like 2.5 hours under normal working conditions, then |
| 03:02.45 | Phated | zombi1: Well, off you go then. enjoy. :) |
| 03:02.48 | Guerin | fid: if it supports proper power management |
| 03:02.57 | fid | probably. my current laptop only get's about 45 mins, so that's ok |
| 03:03.03 | Guerin | heh |
| 03:03.06 | kl0ck | fid: I get around 6 |
| 03:03.16 | zombi1 | Phated- thx |
| 03:03.21 | liable | kl0ck: what lappie? |
| 03:03.23 | Phated | zombi1: No problem. |
| 03:03.32 | fid | 6 hours -- nice |
| 03:03.33 | kl0ck | liable: x40 |
| 03:03.39 | nimak | fid: my friend's l2000 has the long life battery option, it wasnt expensive, and he gets about 6-7 hours |
| 03:04.00 | kl0ck | liable: ibm is proud of their products, and i paid for it |
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| 03:04.14 | liable | kl0ck: yeah, i bet it wasnt cheap. |
| 03:04.18 | grendal_prime | ok guys im totally at a loss here |
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| 03:04.20 | kl0ck | liable: arm and a leg |
| 03:04.22 | zombi1 | Buy a car battery and wire it up... you'll get a lot more then 3 hours... :) |
| 03:04.27 | grendal_prime | /dev/dsp |
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| 03:04.36 | grendal_prime | i cannot get this damn thing to work right |
| 03:04.43 | kl0ck | liable: i paid a cool 3 for the 1.7 gig |
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| 03:04.54 | liable | kl0ck: us? |
| 03:04.58 | kl0ck | yeah |
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| 03:05.23 | nimak | fid: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks/livestrong&series_name=L2000_series&catLevel=2 |
| 03:05.27 | liable | hrm, i paid 3 1/2 two years ago for an r40.. ($au) |
| 03:05.36 | kl0ck | liable: it runs debian great though |
| 03:05.58 | SimonRaven | i gave up and went to something sane |
| 03:06.06 | abrotman | my G40 wasn't nearly that much :) |
| 03:06.12 | infinity1 | i have a SAN volume for exmaple /dev/hda1. It is basically like a hard drive, but it Linux thinks it is a partiion. How can i mount the partitions within it? |
| 03:06.17 | kl0ck | have you seen the z series? |
| 03:06.22 | kl0ck | the new widescreen model? |
| 03:06.34 | liable | dont think i will bother with a lenovo |
| 03:06.54 | SimonRaven | infinity1: well the '1' means a partition, as you know |
| 03:07.13 | infinity1 | SimonRaven: yes. but since it is accessed on the san, it is really a hard drive within a partition. |
| 03:07.26 | nimak | IBM makes really nice laptops, but they cost a metric shitload |
| 03:07.31 | kl0ck | you dont even know |
| 03:07.38 | kl0ck | they are so much |
| 03:07.41 | infinity1 | nimak: and worth every peny |
| 03:07.42 | liable | s/makes/used to make/ |
| 03:08.09 | kl0ck | nimak: I go back for the keyboard and the pencil eraser |
| 03:08.13 | SimonRaven | they used to make ppc laptops. they should start to again |
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| 03:08.35 | fid | nimak: ok, the l2000 looks pretty good. you say you have one and like it? |
| 03:08.35 | nimak | apple used to let people, now they dont like it |
| 03:08.55 | SimonRaven | nimak: er, what? let people do what? |
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| 03:09.25 | nimak | apple used to let people make PPC computers, that would run apple OS |
| 03:09.45 | nimak | fid: my friend has one, and he is really happy with it |
| 03:09.47 | SimonRaven | yes i know. i have one next to me |
| 03:09.47 | kl0ck | http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5907281.html |
| 03:10.01 | nimak | ooh, cool |
| 03:10.08 | SimonRaven | power tower pro |
| 03:10.15 | bob2 | that didn't last long |
| 03:10.23 | bob2 | and they were about as expensive as apple, anyway |
| 03:10.35 | bob2 | also, ibms are about the same price as other brand-name laptops |
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| 03:11.00 | SimonRaven | yeh. i like the case. also the 6 pci slots on this one |
| 03:11.06 | kl0ck | bob2: some of them are |
| 03:11.19 | fid | so what's the benefit to a turion? is 64 bit really better? will it cause me any problems, particularly with builds or software development? |
| 03:11.26 | pcengine | I thought the thinkpad was dead... |
| 03:11.28 | abrotman | only OO |
| 03:11.29 | grendal_prime | how do i find out what all is using /dev/dsp? |
| 03:11.35 | bob2 | the advantage is that it's fucking fast |
| 03:11.39 | pcengine | ever |
| 03:11.40 | bob2 | grendal_prime: fuser -v /dev/dsp |
| 03:11.44 | kl0ck | werd |
| 03:12.21 | grendal_prime | ok...thanks |
| 03:12.38 | grendal_prime | that works..says the user..shawn is using it via my xplane app |
| 03:12.43 | pcengine | they should change the name of thinkpad to the thinkcheap |
| 03:12.48 | grendal_prime | wich is correct...now i need the mic to work... |
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| 03:13.12 | kl0ck | nope, lenovo has 5 years left to use thinkpad |
| 03:13.15 | kl0ck | and they will |
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| 03:13.17 | grendal_prime | but when i try and set it up..it just says your hardware is not configured correctly |
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| 03:13.44 | grendal_prime | the mic does work ive used it with audacity...however it that application access it thougth the capture interface? |
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| 03:13.55 | abrotman | gravity: guess what .. it actually works :) |
| 03:14.13 | fid | nimak: the hp configurator seems to make you decide between wlan and standard lan -- is that true? it won't have both, just one or the other? |
| 03:14.21 | kl0ck | Guerin: could be, but Lenovo's headquarters is in New York |
| 03:14.31 | gravity | abrotman: What's that? |
| 03:14.37 | abrotman | gravity: Haukr's stuff |
| 03:14.39 | nimak | fid: my friend's has both |
| 03:14.40 | gravity | Heh |
| 03:14.44 | gravity | abrotman: What was the problem? |
| 03:14.53 | Guerin | kl0ck: that don't matter to the sorts of people I'm talking about :) |
| 03:14.53 | abrotman | gravity: but sometime .. you need to explain this "intel 865" factoid |
| 03:14.58 | abrotman | !intel 865 |
| 03:14.58 | dpkg | methinks intel 865 is http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html and http://www.iki.fi/karvinen/865patch_0.2-3_i386.deb |
| 03:15.06 | gravity | Ah |
| 03:15.09 | kl0ck | Guerin: oh i see |
| 03:15.10 | gravity | I think that's probably really outdated |
| 03:15.16 | gravity | We have a fairly up to date i810 driver |
| 03:15.16 | abrotman | gravity: do the xorg packages have that fixed ? |
| 03:15.21 | gravity | I think so |
| 03:15.25 | abrotman | gravity: it fixed his problem |
| 03:15.30 | gravity | hrm |
| 03:15.36 | gravity | I don't know what the sarge packages have |
| 03:15.41 | nimak | fid: he also has the bluetooth option, hasnt played with bluetooth under linux, but wifi works well |
| 03:15.43 | gravity | But yeah, we backported i810 iirc |
| 03:15.43 | Tortel | Goodnight all |
| 03:15.46 | abrotman | or maybe it was just beucase i made him enter 16384 in the RAM box |
| 03:15.49 | Guerin | kl0ck: and notwithstanding the fact that most parts for any laptop are made in china or taiwan anyway |
| 03:15.53 | Tortel | :D |
| 03:15.57 | kl0ck | Guerin: i bet they will be happy to know that alot of their computer components were assembled in mexico |
| 03:16.03 | abrotman | Tortel: now .. annoy the web .. start a blog |
| 03:16.06 | Guerin | kl0ck: yeah ... and that |
| 03:16.09 | Tortel | Goodnight all! |
| 03:16.10 | kl0ck | Guerin: hey whats not made in china or taiwan these days |
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| 03:16.23 | Guerin | kl0ck: beck's |
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| 03:16.44 | kl0ck | Guerin: ... yeah |
| 03:16.45 | abrotman | gravity: i'd like to know if it's just the Device RAM thing .. or the patch actually does soemthing |
| 03:17.00 | Tortel | My site (Well, yea...) -=> http://69.250.79.13/hello.php |
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| 03:17.06 | gravity | abrotman: I don't know off the top of my head... |
| 03:17.08 | Tortel | very simple, but it works |
| 03:17.23 | abrotman | gravity: well ... you don't have to know today .. but tomorrow .. you better! |
| 03:17.54 | gravity | heh |
| 03:18.09 | abrotman | i finished just in time with him . i'm beat :) |
| 03:18.19 | abrotman | and i still didn't figure out jack! |
| 03:18.23 | abrotman | the program |
| 03:18.58 | gravity | jack is a pain |
| 03:19.02 | Guerin | well ... i sure do need teh foods |
| 03:19.08 | abrotman | gravity: i got it working .. except the spaces in the filenames |
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| 03:19.13 | fid | nimak: hey, thanks for all of your help. one more system to compare! |
| 03:19.27 | gravity | abrotman: I don't actually use it but the amount of troubles it causes in terms of transitions in to testing is insane |
| 03:19.38 | abrotman | gravity: not jackd .. just jack |
| 03:19.47 | gravity | Ah |
| 03:19.50 | abrotman | !info jack |
| 03:19.52 | nimak | fid: yay! |
| 03:19.54 | dpkg | jack: (Rip and encode CDs with one command), section sound, is optional. Version: 3.1.1-9 (sid), Packaged size: 118 kB, Installed size: 576 kB |
| 03:19.55 | Guerin | !nvidiasmite jack |
| 03:20.03 | gravity | Right, forgot about that one |
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| 03:20.24 | kl0ck | hah, what a fun command |
| 03:20.49 | abrotman | gravity: i'm not really a fan of jackd .. but there are worse things in debian |
| 03:21.03 | kl0ck | geh, gentoo |
| 03:21.16 | abrotman | !gentoosmite kl0ck |
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| 03:22.06 | abrotman | and you've been "optimized" :) |
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| 03:22.45 | kl0ck | i remember i thought i was all cool when i found gentoo |
| 03:22.51 | kl0ck | I was like, yeah im optimized |
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| 03:23.10 | kl0ck | and then there was this kid at school talking about it, and i was like damn i am the suck |
| 03:23.17 | kl0ck | to debian I went |
| 03:23.18 | leprechau | probably not the perfect place to ask this...but does anyone happen to know the name of the popular web based ticket tracking program? |
| 03:23.25 | abrotman | kl0ck: and now you have debian installed ? |
| 03:23.33 | kl0ck | abrotman: on everything |
| 03:23.35 | abrotman | leprechau: are you using debian ? |
| 03:23.51 | leprechau | abrotman, no |
| 03:23.54 | lexiyntax | leprechau: Bugzilla? |
| 03:23.57 | fid | leprechau: don't know if you have one in mind already, but i've been using roundup lately |
| 03:23.58 | abrotman | leprechau: there is bugzilla ? |
| 03:24.00 | abrotman | mantis ? |
| 03:24.01 | kl0ck | i spent 4 days installing gentoo on 4 machines, and i spent 2 hours installing debian |
| 03:24.02 | abrotman | gnats ? |
| 03:24.12 | fid | written in python, really flexible |
| 03:24.28 | fid | it's issue tracking, not bug tracking |
| 03:24.33 | leprechau | looking for something for a copy machine repair shop that i do some work for |
| 03:24.38 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 03:24.45 | bwlang | hi - i'm trying to boot up a new machine via pxe to install debian... i got it about half way through the installer but decided to reboot to change the partitioning and now i can't get the machine to attempt network boot again.. is there some trick to this? |
| 03:24.46 | leprechau | they need someway to track/record service calls |
| 03:24.47 | abrotman | leprechau: bugzilla isn't for that :) |
| 03:24.51 | leprechau | yeah i know |
| 03:24.56 | abrotman | leprechau: have you checked freshmeat ? |
| 03:25.07 | leprechau | i forget the name of one i was thinking of...had a 3 letter acronym |
| 03:25.08 | bwlang | i've never used pxe before |
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| 03:25.26 | leprechau | abrotman, yes and sourceforge...can't seem to find the one i was thinking of |
| 03:25.35 | leprechau | so thought i would ask for suggestions ;} |
| 03:25.44 | abrotman | leprechau: otrs ? |
| 03:25.49 | lexiyntax | leprechau: Double Choco Latte? (DCL) |
| 03:26.06 | leprechau | haha |
| 03:26.24 | Roey | hi |
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| 03:26.27 | Roey | abrotman: heya |
| 03:26.31 | abrotman | !info dcl |
| 03:26.33 | abrotman | Roey: hi |
| 03:26.34 | dpkg | dcl: (GNU Enterprise - Double Choco Latte), section web, is optional. Version: 1:0.9.4.4-2 (sid), Packaged size: 901 kB, Installed size: 5500 kB |
| 03:26.40 | abrotman | nice .. stupid bad description |
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| 03:26.43 | rapsys | hi |
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| 03:27.02 | rapsys | how could I convert iso8859-1 filename in utf8 ? |
| 03:27.04 | bwlang | i must have rebooted 30 times... grr |
| 03:27.09 | kl0ck | hmm |
| 03:27.18 | rapsys | bwlang: did you install a windows ? |
| 03:27.22 | rapsys | ;) |
| 03:27.27 | kl0ck | bwlang: what procedure did you use when you booted it to pxe the first time? |
| 03:27.32 | Roey | when I do 'cdrecord', it always complains "Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow. |
| 03:27.32 | Roey | Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? |
| 03:27.32 | Roey | : Operation not permitted". What gives? using standard debian sid cdrecord here. |
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| 03:27.49 | leprechau | hrm otrs might be it |
| 03:27.51 | lexiyntax | leprechau: RT is also a popular one - http://bestpractical.com/rt/ |
| 03:27.57 | leprechau | RT that was it |
| 03:27.59 | leprechau | :} |
| 03:28.09 | leprechau | thanks |
| 03:28.10 | rapsys | hey ? |
| 03:28.18 | abrotman | hi |
| 03:28.23 | abrotman | hola |
| 03:28.23 | Roey | abrotman: basically I get cd recording sessions that slow down eerything else |
| 03:28.23 | kl0ck | ka-yo |
| 03:28.25 | rapsys | how to convert iso8859-1 filename in utf8 ??? |
| 03:28.25 | abrotman | bon jour! |
| 03:28.28 | abrotman | bom dias! |
| 03:28.31 | rapsys | I need it please |
| 03:28.35 | kl0ck | guten abend?! |
| 03:28.37 | bwlang | kl0ck i just booted the machine... and it went to attempt network boot |
| 03:28.41 | abrotman | guten tag |
| 03:28.45 | abrotman | ? |
| 03:28.49 | bwlang | rapsys: no this is a clean machine. |
| 03:28.53 | kl0ck | bwlang: how far did you get in the partition process |
| 03:29.03 | abrotman | Roey{-: checked the BTS ? |
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| 03:29.16 | man_in_shack | what is /etc/modprobe.d used for?? |
| 03:29.19 | Roey{- | abrotman: I thought it was a problem with my end? |
| 03:29.21 | bwlang | kl0ck i let it create the fs... |
| 03:29.22 | Roey{- | abrotman: lemme check. |
| 03:29.24 | Roey{- | thanks |
| 03:29.43 | abrotman | Roey{-: using sid .. and stuff as broken as cdrecord .. BTS is always a good place to stop on the way to irc :) |
| 03:29.49 | kl0ck | bwlang: hah, set in your bios to boot to network/pxe before internal disks |
| 03:29.58 | Roey{- | abrotman: btw, the concensus about python-kde is that I should post a wish that it should be fixed? |
| 03:30.05 | Roey{- | heh |
| 03:30.19 | abrotman | Roey{-: well .. for 2.3 .. it should be rebuilt .. and then submit another request to have 2.4 packaged |
| 03:30.36 | bwlang | kl0ck: yeah... i have no option for pxe only "legacy LAN" - i just tried removing hard disk from the list |
| 03:30.50 | abrotman | Roey{-: but dondelelcaro seemed to imply it's a pretty messed up package in general |
| 03:30.56 | kl0ck | dont they have a pxe boot disk? |
| 03:31.04 | bwlang | kl0ck: i don't have a floppy |
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| 03:31.14 | abrotman | kl0ck: you know .. pxe .. boot disk .. not making sense :) |
| 03:31.17 | some_dude | what's ths sun java package name ? |
| 03:31.23 | abrotman | !tell some_dude about install java |
| 03:31.48 | bwlang | hmm anybody know what MBA v7.6.6 Slot means? |
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| 03:31.55 | kl0ck | abrotman: nevermind that, another one of my silly workarounds to get debian installed on old hardware |
| 03:32.04 | abrotman | kl0ck: ah . ok |
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| 03:32.45 | kl0ck | bwlang: you wouldnt happen to have another machine would you? or are you on a laptop? |
| 03:32.47 | ryan_ | hi. i just started using debian a couple weeks ago. i'm wondering if it's ok to mix stable / unstable / etc..? |
| 03:33.10 | abrotman | ryan_: not really ..why do you ask ? |
| 03:33.26 | bwlang | kl0ck: i'm typing on a laptop... but the machine in question is a server - i do have other machines (eg the tftp server etc.) |
| 03:33.42 | ryan_ | there are a couple of things that install easier with unstable repos (freenx mainly) |
| 03:33.55 | abrotman | !tell ryan_ about simple sid backport |
| 03:34.10 | abrotman | !tell ryan_ about backports |
| 03:34.10 | Roey{- | abrotman: ok |
| 03:34.19 | kl0ck | bwlang: well you could do the gankee thing and remove the hard disk, install it in another machine, and remove your partitions and then boot it back into the old machine |
| 03:34.28 | Roey{- | abrotman: cdrecord seems to be pretty messed up, too. It has so many errors on BTS that I can't find my specific one. |
| 03:34.29 | kl0ck | bwlang: i hate doing that though |
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| 03:34.48 | abrotman | Roey{-: there's a name for that .. |
| 03:35.02 | abrotman | Roey{-: double check your setup .. make sure it's correct |
| 03:35.10 | bwlang | ha! - "MBA v7.6.6 Slot" is the network card - intuitive... i guess it worked the first time because nothing else did... |
| 03:35.12 | bookmark | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:35.21 | bookmark | hey, who broke my /me |
| 03:35.22 | ryan_ | that will help me a lot. thanx for the info abrotman. |
| 03:35.25 | kl0ck | bwlang: i take it if you are doing a pxe you dont have a cd rom installed either? |
| 03:35.28 | abrotman | bookmark: the space idd |
| 03:35.29 | bwlang | kl0ck: well - the "disk" is a 6 disk raid5... not easy to move |
| 03:35.33 | abrotman | ryan_: have fun! |
| 03:35.36 | kl0ck | bwlang: oh |
| 03:35.40 | bwlang | kl0ck: yeah no cd... - i'm good now |
| 03:35.51 | kl0ck | bwlang: well i cant help you out there |
| 03:35.57 | kl0ck | bwlang: im not much with raid yet |
| 03:36.05 | bwlang | whew... - just blew like 40 minutes on that |
| 03:36.16 | kl0ck | least its good now |
| 03:36.42 | kl0ck | you know that I fixed it remotely using willpower, right? |
| 03:36.50 | kl0ck | yeah, you dont have to respond |
| 03:36.52 | kl0ck | i know |
| 03:37.09 | Roey{- | abrotman: I did |
| 03:37.12 | Roey{- | abrotman: it IS setuid. |
| 03:37.19 | Roey{- | abrotman: cdrecord is set to +s |
| 03:37.39 | Roey{- | abrotman: I did dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord and even told it to set it that way. |
| 03:37.41 | abrotman | someday i'll figure out why cdrecord is so damn complicated |
| 03:38.01 | Roey{- | abrotman: I even added root to the 'cdrom' group. |
| 03:38.07 | Roey{- | abrotman: nothing works; I still get that error. |
| 03:38.19 | Roey{- | abrotman: isn't there an ide-cd module? |
| 03:38.20 | kl0ck | i bet cdrecord is coffee-powered |
| 03:38.30 | abrotman | Roey{-: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 03:39.15 | abrotman | ok .. |
| 03:39.32 | kl0ck | chicka-kawerd |
| 03:39.35 | Roey{- | abrotman: yes. |
| 03:39.44 | abrotman | Roey{-: maybe you missed a kernel option ? |
| 03:39.45 | bookmark | yeah, ide-cd it used to give a bug on 2.6 |
| 03:39.45 | Roey{- | abrotman: I'm planning to move to a debian-way kernel soon. |
| 03:39.53 | abrotman | Roey{-: good plan :) |
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| 03:40.17 | Roey{- | abrotman: the only problem right now is that I cannot have GRUB with / on XFS+raid1 |
| 03:40.23 | abrotman | ack! |
| 03:40.28 | abrotman | Roey{-: dunno about tht .. |
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| 03:40.34 | abrotman | but i DO know . i'm really tired :) |
| 03:40.37 | Guerin | Roey{-: that's a grub thing. |
| 03:40.43 | Roey{- | abrotman: so I plan to buy an Escalade raid controller to get rid of raid problems |
| 03:40.48 | Roey{- | Guerin: I know, that's why I use lilo now. |
| 03:40.56 | Roey{- | abrotman: btw... how do I get rid of these messages in dmesg: |
| 03:40.56 | kl0ck | abrotman is also coffee-powerd, like cdrecord |
| 03:41.04 | abrotman | no . i don't drink coffee |
| 03:41.07 | Roey{- | BANDWIDTH_OUT:IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.3 DST=70.66.1.66 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=30341 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=57816 DPT=15389 WINDOW=6432 RES=0x00 ACK URGP=0 |
| 03:41.16 | Guerin | cdrecord is schilling powered |
| 03:41.16 | abrotman | Roey{-: iirc .. #iptables can tell you |
| 03:41.22 | Guerin | and schilling is crack-powered |
| 03:41.26 | kl0ck | indeed |
| 03:41.55 | Roey{- | abrthnaks:) |
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| 03:42.19 | wersh | hey guys. whats a good font for KDE in X? the ones I have now I don't like. |
| 03:42.27 | kl0ck | any of you guys have any expierience with snort? |
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| 03:42.40 | Guerin | wersh: depends what you like |
| 03:42.50 | wersh | what do you recommend, Guerin? |
| 03:43.09 | Guerin | wersh: i recommend you try them all. |
| 03:43.14 | kl0ck | Guerin: it sounds like your going to sell him some obscene drug |
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| 03:43.26 | Guerin | wersh: bitstream-* are pretty good |
| 03:43.26 | wersh | can i install all via apt-geT? |
| 03:43.34 | Guerin | wersh: apt-cache search fonts |
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| 03:43.51 | jbroome | that's right, we get them hooked with sarge, then take them down with etch |
| 03:43.57 | wersh | i already have ttf-bitstream-vera |
| 03:44.10 | bookmark | damn, i can't get apt-setup to run |
| 03:44.12 | bookmark | grrrrr |
| 03:44.20 | kl0ck | etch is sort of a weird name |
| 03:44.33 | kl0ck | off the wall compared to sarge |
| 03:44.35 | liable | so is kl0ck :) |
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| 03:44.47 | kl0ck | well, its part of my last name |
| 03:45.00 | kl0ck | of course, i had to add the 0 to be cool |
| 03:45.00 | wersh | Guerin, thanks. i like bitstreams font. |
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| 03:45.28 | kl0ck | the letter o is so lame these days :) |
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| 03:47.36 | kl0ck | i lust for dual monitors |
| 03:47.45 | bookmark | oh it's nacho time again |
| 03:48.01 | bucky | kl0ck, you could just drop the L |
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| 03:48.32 | kl0ck | bucky: you could replace the b with an f and remove the y, but that would be thinking to much |
| 03:48.46 | bookmark | god blessed man with adulthood so he could drop massive bucks on fritos chip dip |
| 03:48.56 | gravity | heh |
| 03:48.59 | b0cky | there.. now i'm l33t |
| 03:49.03 | kl0ck | yeah DUDE! |
| 03:49.08 | kl0ck | YOUR L337! |
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| 03:49.18 | gravity | ... |
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| 03:50.18 | b0cky | kl0ck, etch is a wierd name because you had a deprived childhood and never had an etch-a-sketch |
| 03:50.34 | b0cky | that and you never saw toy story |
| 03:50.40 | kl0ck | b0cky: i totally had an etch-a-sketch |
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| 03:50.59 | kl0ck | all those long family vacations |
| 03:51.02 | b0cky | and you don't know how to find debian.org on the internet |
| 03:51.12 | gravity | Dude, chill |
| 03:51.17 | b0cky | and you never learned to RTFM |
| 03:51.22 | kl0ck | dude, dont mess, alright its totally in my bookmarks |
| 03:51.25 | kl0ck | :) |
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| 03:52.39 | kl0ck | later fellers, time fer sleepin |
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| 03:55.40 | Roey{- | thanks all |
| 03:55.41 | Roey{- | and good night |
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| 03:57.30 | SillyC0ne | ..when using WEP, there are 4 lines with keys in my router's configuration. How do I convert them into a 10 character hex key? |
| 03:58.03 | roby | I was using top, tried to kill xmms and punched in the pid of my X session by mistake.. system froze, i hit the reboot switch and on boot kernel reports mass i/o errors reading the reiserfs partition of my second hard drive |
| 03:58.17 | roby | any utilities that i can use to diagnose the drive? |
| 03:59.01 | roby | I can't mount the drive |
| 03:59.53 | mfrisch | roby had similar problems with ext wiped than all was well, donot like reiser. |
| 04:00.49 | roby | mfrisch: i hear reiser is great for system crash recovery |
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| 04:01.21 | roby | mfrisch: i guess i could wipe to salvage the drive... but 9 months of data will be lost... last backup was January |
| 04:01.24 | mfrisch | roby yet you can't mount it... |
| 04:01.33 | roby | mfrisch: yeah |
| 04:01.36 | roby | mfrisch: sux :( |
| 04:02.09 | mfrisch | roby there are progsfs for reiser. use ext3 |
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| 04:07.54 | roby | mfrisch: what is progsfs ? |
| 04:08.49 | mfrisch | roby I thinks there is fsck.reiserfs |
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| 04:15.26 | infinity1 | should i be using udev with 2.6.12? |
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| 04:16.59 | hellslinger | does anyone know how to get 5.1 output to work on an audigy sound card? |
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| 04:17.54 | roby | mfrisch: thanks |
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| 04:21.07 | everton137 | Hi! Do you know some packge on Debian to convert AVI to MPEG? |
| 04:21.30 | everton137 | If more than one, what is best? |
| 04:22.14 | roby | everton137: i think mplayer has the ability to output as a different stream |
| 04:22.36 | everton137 | roby: thanks, I will read mplayer manual |
| 04:22.48 | Agrajag- | everton137: you seem a bit confused, an avi can contain an mpeg |
| 04:23.38 | everton137 | Agrajag: Maybe, I simply have a movie in AVI format and I want convert to Mpeg to watch on my DVD player |
| 04:25.02 | Agrajag- | you might want transcode |
| 04:26.00 | everton137 | Agrajag: Naqoyqatsi (2002).avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 576 x 320, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz) |
| 04:26.00 | everton137 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.19 | some_dude | how do i add the contrib source ? |
| 04:26.21 | everton137 | Agrajag: how do I transcode? |
| 04:26.39 | Loco | man is your friend |
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| 04:27.23 | Loco | some_dude: crontab source? |
| 04:27.33 | some_dude | Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
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| 04:27.55 | everton137 | Agrajag: mplayer manual has its explantion? |
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| 04:28.14 | reptilez | hello. |
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| 04:28.59 | liable | some_dude: just add contrib to your source line in sources.list |
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| 04:31.26 | some_dude | and where might i find a sources.list file ? |
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| 04:31.49 | hognutter | bam |
| 04:31.57 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.04 | some_dude | oh, apt |
| 04:32.24 | some_dude | deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free ? |
| 04:32.36 | hognutter | hi i have a 9600 pro xt video card... im installing debian for first time and the xserver-sfree86 configuration is asking me for th desired X server driver... should i choose ati or vesa? |
| 04:32.46 | some_dude | ati |
| 04:32.52 | roby | ati |
| 04:33.19 | some_dude | now what is that package for sun's java ? |
| 04:33.35 | hognutter | please enter the video cards bus identifier... what do i do there? |
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| 04:34.02 | hognutter | just hit enter? |
| 04:34.34 | Gnea | !tell some_dude about java |
| 04:34.58 | liable | hognutter: yes |
| 04:35.22 | roby | hognutter: depends |
| 04:35.35 | roby | hognutter: i think just enter should be fine |
| 04:35.38 | hognutter | the first thing i would do is enter.. but ya |
| 04:35.43 | hognutter | depends. |
| 04:35.57 | roby | hognutter: funny, i don't remember xorg config asking me that |
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| 04:38.07 | slownix | Can any one recoment a visualy sexy gui irc client for x11 ? |
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| 04:39.12 | Loco | slownix: i use konversation, but xchat is nice |
| 04:40.10 | roby | hognutter: i've used a radeon 9600 on x.org 6.8.2 with the fglrx driver and it worked nicely |
| 04:40.34 | roby | but not 9600 pro xt, just 9600 pro |
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| 04:40.52 | SillyC0ne | is there a point to switch from xfree86 to xorg? what's the difference? |
| 04:41.40 | SillyC0ne | I was running kubuntu and it had xorg, now I installed debian and it has xfree86. I dont know if I should swith or not |
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| 04:42.10 | ohad | does anyone know if there's a group working on having a debian pkg for zimbra |
| 04:42.11 | ohad | ? |
| 04:42.14 | roby | SillyC0ne: no point in switching for me... in neither of them could I get my radeon x800 pro to work with the fglrx rivers |
| 04:42.27 | some_dude | i don't have X installed |
| 04:42.28 | Loco | SillyC0ne: debian has xorg, im using it now |
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| 04:43.05 | SillyC0ne | Loco: I know it does, I'm just asking if there's a difference and whether I sould switch or not |
| 04:43.18 | Loco | as of now, no, there are no differences |
| 04:43.20 | some_dude | I like archlinux |
| 04:43.31 | Loco | xorg is on a different roadmap, so in the future there will be |
| 04:43.35 | some_dude | it's my favorate, but it is not running under xen for me |
| 04:43.43 | Loco | some_dude: i used arch for a while, debian is nicer i think |
| 04:43.51 | some_dude | so I've got archlinux running xen, and debian as a guest |
| 04:43.59 | some_dude | i like pacman |
| 04:44.11 | Loco | its alright |
| 04:44.15 | Loco | i like apt |
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| 04:44.28 | Loco | gentoo is pretty cool too |
| 04:44.31 | slownix | Loco: thanxs im gona try that out and virc |
| 04:44.31 | some_dude | debian is my second choice |
| 04:44.53 | deadcat | i am trying to record tv shows with mencoder, how do i set the channel and sound? i cant seem to get it working |
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| 04:47.09 | buwwles | I can't get X to start...there is something wrong with the mouse settings...When I change "Device" to /dev/input/mice or /dev/psaux X will give me core pointers error...when I change "Device" to /dev/mouse X starts fine...but the mouse doesn't work. |
| 04:47.14 | buwwles | I have a usb mouse. |
| 04:47.16 | hognutter | ya i have a feeling that debian isnt going to support my audigy card with my live drive.. but who knows............ |
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| 04:47.30 | buwwles | 3 buttons including the wheel, standard mouse. |
| 04:47.36 | Loco | buwwles: usually its /dev/input/mice |
| 04:48.31 | Loco | buwwles: /msg me and ill post my config for the mouse |
| 04:48.35 | buwwles | Loco: That's what I figured...but it doesn't work. |
| 04:48.42 | buwwles | Loco k |
| 04:49.16 | roby | Anyone know if the ati open source drivers support dual monitor output? |
| 04:50.00 | SillyC0ne | does anybody know why there would be no cdrom device after upgrading from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in debian? |
| 04:50.08 | buwwles | roby: Try asking in #ati |
| 04:50.12 | buwwles | Or just try the drivers? |
| 04:50.22 | roby | buwwles: i already did, asking here in case someone knows too |
| 04:50.25 | roby | :) |
| 04:50.29 | some_dude | why do i fakeroot when making a package ? |
| 04:50.40 | deadcat | you dont have to |
| 04:50.41 | Firefishe | I keep getting Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 04:50.41 | Firefishe | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 04:50.41 | Firefishe | (gedit:4183): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: ... when I su to root to run programs as super user. |
| 04:50.43 | SillyC0ne | if I boot my old kernel, there is cdrom, if I boot the new one, there's no cdrom |
| 04:50.52 | Firefishe | sorry for the multi line |
| 04:50.55 | deadcat | Firefishe: dont run shit as root |
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| 04:51.16 | Firefishe | deadcat, sometimes it's necessary when I'm editing system files |
| 04:51.29 | some_dude | is free-java compatable with sun's java ? |
| 04:51.32 | deadcat | Firefishe: editor is not good enough for you? |
| 04:51.38 | hognutter | how do i open a shoutcast radio station with xmms? like where is xmms at? |
| 04:51.45 | Firefishe | editor? |
| 04:51.46 | deadcat | Firefishe: if you REALLY want to, sudo GUI, or install sux |
| 04:52.04 | deadcat | Firefishe: ya. editor = vi, emacs, nano, whatever |
| 04:52.07 | Firefishe | what is sux? |
| 04:52.17 | deadcat | !sux |
| 04:52.17 | dpkg | [sux] su with xauth, to run X apps as root: http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about.", or apt-get install sux, or something that anyone who spells "sucks" as "sux" does. |
| 04:52.44 | Firefishe | deadcat: I use gedit when in x, or nano when in cli; the thing is, I am unable to save in read-only mode <hint>. am I missing something here. |
| 04:53.13 | Firefishe | oh... |
| 04:53.15 | deadcat | Firefishe: hint, edit system files as root. you can use nano or editor as root. |
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| 04:53.17 | Firefishe | I saw the bot |
| 04:53.39 | hognutter | where can i find my apps at like xmms? |
| 04:53.45 | hognutter | what directory ? |
| 04:53.53 | deadcat | hognutter: usually /usr/bin/ |
| 04:53.54 | Firefishe | deadcat: I su to root. then I type gedit, and I get a "can't connect to display 0.0 error" type of message. |
| 04:54.04 | deadcat | Firefishe: ^^ |
| 04:55.57 | Firefishe | deadcat: let's say I'm on the command line as user $. I type "su", then the password, and become root. At the # prompt, I type gedit, or nano, or whatever, and get a can't connect to display error. I don't get this problem on my desktop, same disks, too, for install. I'm a bit weird. This is a laptop. |
| 04:56.26 | deadcat | Firefishe: like i said. read what i typed. i told you all you need. you just have to put them together. |
| 04:56.29 | Firefishe | Last should be "I'm a bit weirded out." |
| 04:56.46 | zaplutus | Firefishe: xhost +localhost as your user who started X |
| 04:57.27 | dondelelcaro | zaplutus: do NOT EVER recommend xhost +localhost |
| 04:57.41 | Firefishe | I'm not even getting it. |
| 04:57.42 | zaplutus | why? |
| 04:57.43 | deadcat | i told Firefishe what he needed. he just dont listen |
| 04:57.53 | dondelelcaro | !xhost +localhost |
| 04:57.53 | dpkg | somebody said xhost +localhost was <Overfiend> xhost +localhost should only be done by people who would paint their hostname and root password on an interstate overpass. |
| 04:57.53 | deadcat | zaplutus: security reason |
| 04:57.58 | Firefishe | deadcat, I'm listening fine, I just don't understand your instructions. |
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| 04:58.29 | deadcat | Firefishe: fucking install sux if you want to run shit as root from a regular user |
| 04:58.39 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: you just need to set XAUTHORITY correctly; export XAUTHORITY="/home/userrunningx/.Xauthority" |
| 04:58.43 | zaplutus | deadcat: just hearsay, or does someone have a valid exploit/reason against it? |
| 04:58.44 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: or install sux and use it. |
| 04:59.03 | deadcat | zaplutus: hell if i know. i dont use that shit |
| 04:59.04 | dondelelcaro | zaplutus: that means that anyone who gains access to any process running on your box has complete access to your X server. |
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| 04:59.21 | dondelelcaro | zaplutus: thus, anything on your machine is instantly rendered insecure. |
| 04:59.30 | zaplutus | dondelelcaro: i see |
| 04:59.50 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am using the zd211 card at home. i changed from shared key to open system (= |
| 05:00.15 | dondelelcaro | xhost is a command that you basically shouldn't ever be using at all. |
| 05:00.32 | zaplutus | dondelelcaro: is that assuming that a process can be exploited? |
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| 05:00.55 | dondelelcaro | zaplutus: in most cases, yes. |
| 05:01.11 | zaplutus | dondelelcaro: and if thats the case, does it matter if you let all connections into your x server from localhost? |
| 05:01.31 | dondelelcaro | zaplutus: do you run as root all the time? |
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| 05:01.37 | dondelelcaro | zaplutus: does everything on your box run as root? |
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| 05:01.49 | zaplutus | dondelelcaro: I see your concern, and i am agreeing with you on the issue. I'm just wondering exactly how it could be exploited |
| 05:02.01 | dondelelcaro | zaplutus: I mean, if you're comfortable with doing that, fine. Just don't ever recommend it in #debian. |
| 05:02.11 | zaplutus | agreed |
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| 05:03.07 | hognutter | ok i made a mistake by checking a box to open this program everytime i click this link. how do make it ask me again in mozilla? |
| 05:03.19 | deadcat | i am trying to record tv shows with mencoder, how do i set the channel and sound? i cant seem to get it working |
| 05:03.25 | zaplutus | dondelelcaro: i mainly work with servers, although i do use linux as my desktop, i don't know as much as id like to |
| 05:03.43 | hognutter | nevermind i found it. |
| 05:03.46 | deadcat | hognutter: no clue |
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| 05:05.36 | hognutter | well as i figured my audigy card isnt liking it. |
| 05:05.47 | hognutter | i get no errors but cant hear any sound. |
| 05:05.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: a bunch of source updates have been released for the card... still doesnt support wep? |
| 05:06.15 | zaplutus | hognutter: are your speakers plugged in properly? |
| 05:06.27 | hognutter | ya as i just dual booted. |
| 05:06.28 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: it supports |
| 05:06.38 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: the jackass releases a new source like every other day |
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| 05:06.47 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: thats what i am using, wep, i just have to change from shared key to open system. |
| 05:06.58 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nah. no updates in a while.. |
| 05:06.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: it doesnt support shared key? |
| 05:07.07 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nope. |
| 05:07.27 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: but the guys in #wireless said shared key doesnt do shit anyway |
| 05:07.32 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: uhhh.. I got a update yesterday and today |
| 05:07.39 | deadcat | really? |
| 05:07.53 | TwistedEmotions | yeah |
| 05:07.59 | TwistedEmotions | let me build and tell you the version |
| 05:08.00 | deadcat | what version? |
| 05:08.33 | hognutter | ok i got an error |
| 05:08.33 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am on 0.0.0.svnr23-3 |
| 05:08.59 | TwistedEmotions | zd1211-module-2.6.12-1-686-smp_0.0.0.svnr23-3+2.6.12-10_i386.deb |
| 05:09.09 | hognutter | device: default cant be opened for playback (no such file or directory) using null output device. |
| 05:09.21 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: is that from apt-get or you compile your own driver? |
| 05:09.33 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. 23-3 |
| 05:09.45 | Seb | hognutter: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 05:09.49 | TwistedEmotions | compile |
| 05:10.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: same source |
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| 05:10.35 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: dude.. it's hella easy you want me to help you compile? |
| 05:10.44 | TwistedEmotions | sudo m-a -t build zd1211-source |
| 05:10.45 | deadcat | its ok (= |
| 05:10.50 | TwistedEmotions | im l333t |
| 05:10.54 | deadcat | hehe |
| 05:10.55 | TwistedEmotions | your not. |
| 05:10.58 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 05:10.59 | Firefishe | deadcat, dondelelcaro: I just installed sux. I see how it works, but what does it do? keep the root session through x secure? |
| 05:11.10 | deadcat | i just pay compUSA to do my computer works (= |
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| 05:11.18 | Seb | Firefishe: allows you to pop x apps as root |
| 05:11.20 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: no, it uses xauth and sets XAUTHORITY for you |
| 05:11.20 | deadcat | Firefishe: sure |
| 05:11.22 | slownix | Any one know what the qt lib packages is called |
| 05:11.31 | deadcat | slownix: no |
| 05:11.40 | Seb | slownix: you'll have to be more specific |
| 05:11.41 | Firefishe | deadcat: they built my clear acrylic tower. |
| 05:11.46 | Firefishe | ;) |
| 05:11.53 | slownix | msg dpkg qt |
| 05:11.54 | TwistedEmotions | slownix: something like qtlibversion<blah> |
| 05:11.55 | slownix | i need that program |
| 05:12.01 | slownix | k |
| 05:12.02 | spdf | slownix, maybe something like.. libqt* |
| 05:12.02 | Firefishe | clear acrylic: read, dust magnet! LOL |
| 05:12.05 | TwistedEmotions | hahahaa |
| 05:12.10 | TwistedEmotions | !lol |
| 05:12.10 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 05:12.21 | spdf | lol@that!!!1 |
| 05:12.30 | Firefishe | clear acrylic: read, dust magnet! bwahahaha |
| 05:12.48 | deadcat | Firefishe: compUSA do all my computer works. i just got my machine softwares updated the otherday. although they charged alot, but i cant find anyone to fix it for me |
| 05:12.51 | TwistedEmotions | haha another one converted |
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| 05:13.14 | Firefishe | deadcat: sometimes we just gotta pay the geeks at the stores :) |
| 05:13.17 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: wtf.. you pay comp usa to fo what? |
| 05:13.22 | slownix | k |
| 05:13.31 | TwistedEmotions | *do what? |
| 05:13.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: installing hardware is HELLA easy.. |
| 05:13.41 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: to bait ya I think |
| 05:13.42 | zaplutus | wow |
| 05:13.45 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: update my aol thing (= |
| 05:13.50 | zaplutus | hahahahaha |
| 05:13.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: that sounds l33333t |
| 05:14.01 | dpower | hahahah |
| 05:14.04 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: can they do mine too? |
| 05:14.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i dont know what they did but its working |
| 05:14.12 | TwistedEmotions | aol? |
| 05:14.15 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. |
| 05:14.17 | dpower | !aol |
| 05:14.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, aol is for people who dont know the highway from the driveway, or army of losers. They are teaming up with Sony to fight |
| 05:14.20 | TwistedEmotions | aim you mean? |
| 05:14.32 | Xenguy | Seb: let's hope so =) |
| 05:14.36 | spdf | deadcat, something with the driver jumpers I bet |
| 05:14.47 | TwistedEmotions | *serious |
| 05:14.48 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: the aol thing, you type in porn at the serach bar and it goes to a porn site. that thing |
| 05:14.56 | TwistedEmotions | ohhhhhh! |
| 05:14.57 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:14.57 | Seb | Xenguy: heh |
| 05:15.05 | TwistedEmotions | I can tell again ;) Weeee.. |
| 05:15.10 | Xenguy | TwistedEmotions: that's the problem with post-modern irony :p |
| 05:15.19 | zaplutus | deadcat: its cool, pc club fixed my cup holder on my desktop |
| 05:15.20 | spdf | TwistedEmotions, Welcome back to reality ;) |
| 05:15.33 | deadcat | zaplutus: the hell is pc club? |
| 05:15.45 | zaplutus | local computer store chain |
| 05:15.48 | deadcat | o |
| 05:15.55 | zaplutus | don't think they are outside of california |
| 05:16.19 | Seb | Xenguy: man I dunno, this looks like this could possibly last a few more hours... |
| 05:16.39 | TwistedEmotions | Hey.. I dont know... sometimes I have some gay debian problems and don't feel like fixing them... if compUSA had geeks who knew linux I might go there once in a while.. not to fix my linux.. but maybe to get them to make pokerstars run on xwine ;P |
| 05:16.42 | Xenguy | Seb: I'm not watching so I can't say ;-) |
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| 05:17.09 | infinity1 | hmm. i installed udev, and now when i boot, i don't get a login prompt. |
| 05:17.17 | encompass | Good morning/evening everyone |
| 05:17.24 | infinity1 | where should i look? |
| 05:17.31 | Seb | infinity1: BTS ? |
| 05:17.36 | infinity1 | bts? |
| 05:17.40 | Seb | !bts |
| 05:17.40 | TwistedEmotions | encompass: it's 10pm you rude asshole. |
| 05:17.40 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 05:17.48 | Seb | hmm, big one |
| 05:18.05 | TwistedEmotions | encompass: Im kidding.. I love you.. good day sir ;) |
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| 05:18.11 | Firefishe | mornin' encompass |
| 05:18.21 | encompass | sheesh |
| 05:18.23 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: 22:18 you approximative punk. |
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| 05:18.34 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what an asshole eh? (= |
| 05:18.36 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: hahahaha... |
| 05:18.40 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: :) |
| 05:18.43 | encompass | its early morning in finland for me |
| 05:18.50 | infinity1 | is udev recommended? |
| 05:18.52 | infinity1 | or no? |
| 05:18.56 | deadcat | no |
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| 05:19.14 | wasabi | recommended by who? :) |
| 05:19.19 | infinity1 | deadcat: why do you say no? |
| 05:19.20 | deadcat | wasabi: me (= |
| 05:19.23 | wasabi | Heh. |
| 05:19.27 | wasabi | I recommened it! |
| 05:19.30 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: some people.. I mean is it too hard to say good morning/noon/evening/night/midnight/newyears/ect/ect/init.d/networking restart? |
| 05:19.32 | Dasnipa` | has anyone ever experienced problems entering video modes in SDL? i get the message 'no display available' im using a few year old nvidia card and got the drivers setup right as ween by my 200-300 fps in the atunnel screensaver |
| 05:19.33 | infinity1 | wasabi: errr. |
| 05:19.34 | deadcat | infinity1: i dont know |
| 05:19.35 | encompass | Udev is a good thing |
| 05:19.43 | Dasnipa` | ween = seen clearly |
| 05:19.58 | deadcat | encompass: you using it? |
| 05:19.59 | infinity1 | encompass: thats what i thought. but i cant get on the console, except in single user mode now. heh. |
| 05:20.10 | luci0 | good night! |
| 05:20.14 | luci0 | good night! |
| 05:20.21 | encompass | good night |
| 05:20.23 | TwistedEmotions | luci0: gnite ;) |
| 05:20.26 | deadcat | its 11apm here |
| 05:20.37 | TwistedEmotions | ampm? Good stuff? |
| 05:20.44 | encompass | infinity1 udev... um I don't think it has much to do with your console |
| 05:21.00 | infinity1 | encompass: after i installed it, the console is gone. :) |
| 05:21.15 | encompass | have you tried booting in recovery mode? |
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| 05:21.25 | infinity1 | encompass: single user works |
| 05:21.25 | Seb | infinity1: and you have not updated anything else ? |
| 05:21.31 | infinity1 | Seb: nope. |
| 05:21.34 | Seb | infinity1: and you're not running sid ? |
| 05:21.35 | encompass | then remove it and see what happens |
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| 05:21.44 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: gnite... got class at the crack of dawn.. ;P talk to you later |
| 05:21.45 | encompass | apt-get remove udev |
| 05:21.47 | scorpix | what's the name of xine's package in Debian Testing repository? |
| 05:21.51 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ok. |
| 05:21.57 | Seb | scorpix: apt-cache search xine |
| 05:21.59 | deadcat | scorpix: xine-ui |
| 05:21.59 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 05:22.04 | encompass | gnight TwistedEmotions |
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| 05:22.16 | luci0 | why debian is the best? |
| 05:22.26 | Seb | luci0: cause we say so, I guess |
| 05:22.27 | infinity1 | i see the problem. there isn't a /dev/tty[1-6]!!! |
| 05:22.29 | encompass | why do you ask |
| 05:22.30 | infinity1 | what the.... |
| 05:22.34 | deadcat | luci0: no one said its the best |
| 05:22.38 | Seb | infinity1: are you using sid ? |
| 05:22.41 | encompass | I have worked with lots.. debian seems to be very stable |
| 05:22.43 | infinity1 | Seb: testings |
| 05:22.48 | infinity1 | er testing |
| 05:22.50 | Seb | infinity1: well go check the BTS man |
| 05:23.12 | bxa | this is my fav saying that all debians should love... anyway this is how it goes: "i know how to use my computer, you do not. this doesnt make me a hacker, this makes you an idiot" |
| 05:23.22 | encompass | infinity1 your in sigle user... they don't have more than one |
| 05:23.23 | infinity1 | Seb: i did. nothing about my issue. |
| 05:23.36 | deadcat | bxa: that quote sucks |
| 05:23.39 | infinity1 | encompass: in single user, it must be something else. |
| 05:23.40 | Seb | infinity1: so now you can safely file a bug report |
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| 05:23.52 | infinity1 | Seb: umm ..that doesn't solve my problem now :) |
| 05:23.55 | bxa | deadcat: oh ya... well then i have nothing. you have seen the best i have to offer |
| 05:24.13 | Seb | infinity1: now, but think about the community, man, don't be so sefl-centered :D |
| 05:24.19 | infinity1 | Seb: i realize the bug is something to do with the package install, but the fix is ..... |
| 05:24.20 | deadcat | bxa: oh god. you got to come up with another one in the next hour man |
| 05:24.24 | encompass | infinity1 your in single user mode.... you don{t have more than one console |
| 05:24.33 | infinity1 | Seb: i'm not. i'll file a bug report when i get it working |
| 05:24.38 | luci0 | which diference ext3 is reiserfs? |
| 05:24.43 | bxa | deadcat: i just hope is less horrible in your eyes, but im willing to say your pretty hard to impress |
| 05:24.45 | Seb | infinity1: this is not the point of bug reports |
| 05:24.46 | spdf | luci0, Google. |
| 05:24.47 | deadcat | luci0: no |
| 05:24.53 | Seb | luci0: reiserfs is a nono |
| 05:24.57 | infinity1 | Seb: either way, it doesn't help |
| 05:25.07 | deadcat | bxa: no. a monkey dancing can impress me (= |
| 05:25.31 | encompass | deadcat your sad... I would like to see a lama dance |
| 05:25.46 | infinity1 | encompass: ok. i did init 3. i'm 99.9 % sure tty0 still won't exist. |
| 05:25.51 | Seb | infinity1: well obviously no one in here knows the answer. So unless you file this bug and get some fix for it, you'll have to just figure it out yourself. |
| 05:26.02 | deadcat | encompass: not just a regular monkey, monkey in a hitler helmet (= |
| 05:26.07 | bxa | deadcat: then behold http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/bxa/photos/oct2005/000_0795.jpg i have metal in my face. be amazed. i mean im not dancing monkey but i may aswell be |
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| 05:26.30 | deadcat | bxa: you dont like like a monkey to me |
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| 05:26.45 | deadcat | and i dont see the hitler helmet |
| 05:26.46 | encompass | hey guys, do you know a way of pasting form console to graphical? |
| 05:26.55 | infinity1 | > ls tty* |
| 05:26.55 | infinity1 | ls: tty*: No such file or directory |
| 05:26.59 | spdf | I have a picture of me eating a hot dog... Thats practically monkey dancing.. |
| 05:27.01 | bxa | deadcat: it gives me hat head |
| 05:27.03 | deadcat | encompass: screen |
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| 05:27.13 | infinity1 | so thats the problem. hmm. now why doesn't udev create them? |
| 05:27.18 | deadcat | spdf: show it |
| 05:27.23 | encompass | shizzle |
| 05:27.24 | spdf | 10secs.. let me find it.. |
| 05:27.29 | deadcat | bxa: hehe |
| 05:27.35 | encompass | I have held back on screen too long |
| 05:27.38 | bkwiecien | okay, I'm going to ask the stupidest, most inane question off all time--the one question that I swore I would never ask anyone (not even my closest friends). However, circumstances being what they are, I was wondering if perhaps there was any way I could figure out what the root password is for this machine. :-( |
| 05:27.43 | deadcat | spdf: 2 sec left |
| 05:27.56 | Xenguy | encompass: why? |
| 05:27.57 | encompass | oh my gosh |
| 05:28.07 | infinity1 | encompass: what do you have for tty*? are you using udev? do you have tty0? |
| 05:28.10 | Seb | bkwiecien: sure. Ask the owner. |
| 05:28.13 | encompass | cause I don't like reading that man page |
| 05:28.17 | encompass | LAZY |
| 05:28.24 | Xenguy | encompass: suffer :-) |
| 05:28.24 | bkwiecien | Seb: that's me..I'm the administrator |
| 05:28.27 | deadcat | encompass: i didnt read the man page. and i am using screen |
| 05:28.28 | Seb | encompass: lotsa tutorials out there |
| 05:28.31 | Seb | bkwiecien: and ? |
| 05:28.39 | bkwiecien | I installed this system about a month ago and I have no idea what the password is |
| 05:28.44 | encompass | google it bkwiecien |
| 05:28.47 | dpower | bkwiecien: hahaha |
| 05:28.49 | deadcat | bkwiecien: livecd |
| 05:29.03 | encompass | deadcat how did you learn all them shortcuts |
| 05:29.05 | Seb | bkwiecien: rescue boot, mount the partition, delete the crypted passwd in /etc/passwd, umount, reboot |
| 05:29.06 | bkwiecien | I was thinking about that, but I think what I'm dealing with is a black art |
| 05:29.15 | Seb | encompass: it just comes after a while |
| 05:29.16 | Xenguy | bkwiecien: it's your friend's system, isn't it? :P |
| 05:29.16 | deadcat | encompass: ^a + ? |
| 05:29.31 | bkwiecien | Xenguy: it is, but she can't be trusted to administrate linux |
| 05:29.32 | Seb | bkwiecien: ? |
| 05:29.38 | spdf | deadcat, http://www.hotdogsandwiches.com/images/hotdogeating.jpg |
| 05:29.45 | Xenguy | bkwiecien: well then of course we'll help ;-) |
| 05:29.47 | bkwiecien | Seb: isn't the info contained in shadow files? |
| 05:30.00 | luci0 | lol |
| 05:30.01 | deadcat | spdf: hehe. you do look like a monkey (= |
| 05:30.02 | spdf | Its a pretty tasty hotdog sandwich.. |
| 05:30.08 | Seb | bkwiecien: maybe, doesn't matter though, you can still reset the crypted field |
| 05:30.16 | deadcat | spdf: ya. looks good.. |
| 05:30.17 | encompass | I will be back one 'screen' later |
| 05:30.27 | luci0 | my hard disk have 1 tera |
| 05:30.29 | bkwiecien | Seb: should I delete the line or just the password field |
| 05:30.41 | dpower | spdf: ummm is that you? |
| 05:30.43 | deadcat | luci0: stop bragging about your hard D |
| 05:30.44 | Seb | bkwiecien: just the passwd field. I haven't said line yet, now have I ? |
| 05:30.51 | spdf | dpower, the very same person.. |
| 05:30.58 | Xenguy | encompass: use BX again, and yer banned forever :P |
| 05:31.09 | bkwiecien | Seb: haha, no...so just delete the little x |
| 05:31.17 | Seb | bkwiecien: definitely not |
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| 05:31.18 | deadcat | spdf: http://www.hotdogsandwiches.com/images/monkey.png |
| 05:31.22 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:31.26 | encompass | hi I'm back! |
| 05:31.28 | Seb | bkwiecien: it *will* look like an encrypted string. Make an effort. |
| 05:31.38 | bkwiecien | the passwd file doesn't contain those things |
| 05:31.42 | deadcat | encompass: while you were gone, we talk shit about you |
| 05:31.51 | spdf | deadcat, best screen saver I've ever made.. Rotozooming monkeys.. |
| 05:31.53 | bkwiecien | only an x |
| 05:31.55 | encompass | sheesh, you guys can talk fast! |
| 05:32.01 | bkwiecien | maybe I need to attack the shadow files |
| 05:32.07 | deadcat | spdf: heheh |
| 05:32.07 | encompass | admin! kill everyone out! |
| 05:32.12 | infinity1 | can someone running udev tell me if they have dev/tty0? |
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| 05:32.24 | encompass | haha yes I do |
| 05:32.27 | bkwiecien | god damnit, I wish I had brought my backpack after all |
| 05:32.27 | Seb | bkwiecien: i told you it might be the case |
| 05:32.32 | spdf | deadcat, someday I'll optimize and move over to X.. Its sdl atleast, shouldn't be too hard.. |
| 05:32.41 | bkwiecien | I had a knoppix CD on that |
| 05:32.43 | xixor | yo |
| 05:32.44 | Seb | bkwiecien: after all, you installed this machine, right ? |
| 05:32.49 | encompass | yo? |
| 05:32.53 | spdf | !yo |
| 05:32.53 | xixor | eh? |
| 05:32.53 | dpkg | Wazzup man? |
| 05:32.55 | encompass | yo you! |
| 05:33.05 | xixor | no, you |
| 05:33.08 | Seb | infinity1: filed that bug yet ? heheheh |
| 05:33.20 | encompass | joo you for the finnish |
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| 05:34.31 | Seb | spdf: now, wdf is hotdogsandwiches.com for a domain name ? |
| 05:34.31 | encompass | infinity1 are you still in single user? |
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| 05:35.25 | encompass | is the a help menu for screen? |
| 05:35.30 | spdf | Seb, Haha.. Well.. Really I couldn't think of anything stupider.. |
| 05:35.34 | Seb | encompass: C-a h |
| 05:35.45 | Seb | spdf: makes sense. |
| 05:36.01 | encompass | it jsut told me it was writtne to hardcopy |
| 05:36.03 | encompass | huh? |
| 05:36.10 | deadcat | ^a ? |
| 05:36.17 | Seb | encompass: Ctrl-a ? |
| 05:36.18 | infinity1 | encompass: i switched to multi |
| 05:36.19 | Seb | encompass: my bad |
| 05:36.37 | spdf | Seb, Its easy to remember atleast.. |
| 05:36.41 | infinity1 | Seb: call your mom to wipe your ass yet? :) |
| 05:36.42 | deadcat | screen is the BEST software ... EVER! |
| 05:36.44 | luci0 | slackware is good? |
| 05:36.53 | dpower | does anyone know of port scanning utility? |
| 05:36.56 | spdf | infinity1, Oh. Know you're just being rude.. |
| 05:36.57 | deadcat | luci0: #slackware |
| 05:36.58 | infinity1 | Seb: no offense, but i think we should be able to help ourselves |
| 05:37.03 | deadcat | dpower: nmap |
| 05:37.06 | infinity1 | spdf: yea. i know |
| 05:37.07 | dpower | thx |
| 05:37.20 | luci0 | deadcat banned slackware |
| 05:37.21 | encompass | wow! |
| 05:37.22 | zinx | deadcat: The dungeon collapses. You die. |
| 05:37.27 | Seb | infinity1: yeah. Please do help yourself. |
| 05:37.27 | encompass | screen = cool |
| 05:37.33 | deadcat | luci0: what the fuck you talking about? you high? |
| 05:37.35 | infinity1 | encompass: brb. rebooting. i just tried soemthing. |
| 05:37.40 | Seb | zinx: i got scared as hell last night when this happened to me |
| 05:37.46 | encompass | ok infinity1 |
| 05:37.48 | deadcat | zinx: ? |
| 05:37.51 | luci0 | deadcat noas eoas eso sse? |
| 05:37.57 | deadcat | que? |
| 05:38.04 | Seb | zinx: i had never had screen crash on me before, and it was on my firewall 8) |
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| 05:38.09 | luci0 | haeuhauheue |
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| 05:38.14 | luci0 | que;? |
| 05:38.15 | deadcat | oh screen crashed on me few times |
| 05:38.17 | luci0 | hauehauheu |
| 05:38.23 | encompass | does anyone know that mexican moter cycle joke... I can't remember the beginning |
| 05:38.27 | spdf | infinity1, Its possible if you file a bug report someone might know how to solve it. |
| 05:38.46 | luci0 | deadcat is brazilian? |
| 05:38.57 | deadcat | luci0: close enough |
| 05:39.49 | Seb | spdf: oh, so this makes sense to you too, huh ? Interesting :> |
| 05:39.55 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: the new firewall file... does it block all NAT activity? Azureus is giving me ... NAT Error |
| 05:40.05 | spdf | Seb, Its a crazy world we live in.. |
| 05:40.08 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: probably |
| 05:40.12 | encompass | screen is cool |
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| 05:40.15 | Seb | heh |
| 05:40.17 | encompass | ok, I am converted |
| 05:40.23 | encompass | and I didn{t have to read that readme |
| 05:40.24 | Seb | encompass: understatement of the century |
| 05:40.25 | encompass | hahahaha |
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| 05:40.49 | encompass | now, does zinc come for debian? |
| 05:40.53 | Seb | encompass: and you don't even know yet that you can detach your screen session, logout and all, aand reatach to it the next itme, like you never left :) |
| 05:41.07 | Seb | encompass: apt-cache search theThingYouWant |
| 05:41.10 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: how do I open nat access for that port.. like what would you do on your machine? |
| 05:41.48 | Seb | hmm, too much OOP will do that to you... |
| 05:41.51 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: on my machine i am only using natonly, not the start option, since my router is my firewall . but let me find that extra script that opens the bt ports |
| 05:42.11 | encompass | ok, does anyone here use a text based chatter like GAIM |
| 05:42.24 | Seb | encompass: sure, centericq |
| 05:42.27 | spdf | encompass, centericq |
| 05:42.37 | encompass | centericq eh? |
| 05:42.38 | encompass | hmmm |
| 05:42.42 | Firefishe | this may be a lamer question, but is it wise to clear apt's cache of .deb files now and again? |
| 05:42.57 | deadcat | centericq is nice. although lately its sucking on me |
| 05:42.58 | Seb | encompass: zsh, mutt, slrn, centericq, irssi-text, all in one screen session, that is gonna rock your world, heh |
| 05:43.01 | infinity1 | hrmz. that didn't do it. |
| 05:43.03 | spdf | encompass, text based multi-protocol im client.. |
| 05:43.04 | Seb | works fine here |
| 05:43.18 | deadcat | Seb: AND cplay or playmp3list (= |
| 05:43.31 | deadcat | not to mention bt |
| 05:43.45 | Seb | infinity1: you mean you didn't get an answer right after filing your bug ? You need to give it a little bit of time. |
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| 05:43.57 | encompass | cool |
| 05:43.57 | Seb | deadcat: links, ssh to router, etc, etc... :) |
| 05:44.06 | deadcat | yeep |
| 05:44.20 | encompass | I use mp3blaster for my mp3's is there a better one for textmode mp3's? |
| 05:44.22 | deadcat | Seb: although i prefer a gui browser. |
| 05:44.36 | Phated | Firefishe: It's not an issue. apt will download them again should you wish to install the same packages again. |
| 05:44.38 | deadcat | playmp2list is nice, cplay is stupid. |
| 05:44.42 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah.. it's the firewall.. if I stop it azureus works fine |
| 05:44.47 | Seb | deadcat: i do use one too, yeah, but i can live with links |
| 05:44.53 | Firefishe | k Phated , thank yuo |
| 05:44.53 | Firefishe | you |
| 05:45.00 | Phated | deadcat: playmp2list? |
| 05:45.02 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. i am looking for that thing you open the bt ports |
| 05:45.03 | liable | cplay is ok. |
| 05:45.09 | deadcat | Phated: 3 (=. fuck 2 hehe |
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| 05:45.57 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: is NAT only option safe? |
| 05:46.04 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: it works.. |
| 05:46.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no |
| 05:46.09 | TwistedEmotions | ohh ;P |
| 05:46.12 | Phated | deadcat: Heh. |
| 05:46.25 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: it doesnt close any port at all (=. |
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| 05:46.35 | Seb | sheesh, 13th inning |
| 05:46.51 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Ahh.. greeat. |
| 05:46.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: shit i cant seem to find that damn file that has the commands. let me look harder |
| 05:47.14 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ty I lub you;) |
| 05:47.24 | Seb | lube ? |
| 05:47.34 | encompass | centericq is the bomb |
| 05:47.36 | encompass | thanks guys |
| 05:47.41 | Seb | encompass: heh, told ya |
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| 05:48.11 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: dont be nasty... |
| 05:48.20 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: I know your jellous |
| 05:48.38 | encompass | TwistedEmotions I thouhgt you were going to bed |
| 05:48.41 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: "you're jealous" ? |
| 05:48.44 | encompass | haha |
| 05:48.55 | TwistedEmotions | no.. I meant covered in jelly. |
| 05:48.56 | deadcat | encompass: what you believd him ? |
| 05:49.13 | TwistedEmotions | or made of jelly.. |
| 05:49.30 | encompass | deadcat it's "believed" |
| 05:49.40 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: there, there, it's ok, you illiterate 5th grader |
| 05:50.05 | TwistedEmotions | encompass: I was but then I figured I should start Azureus before I go to bed... then I got NAT error ;) |
| 05:50.16 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: Hmm.. how old are you? |
| 05:50.22 | luddite | hey all, i'm able to connect to my samba account, and other file/drives but the drives say they are empty |
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| 05:50.26 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: 28 ? |
| 05:50.32 | luddite | smbpasswd -a optioni used |
| 05:50.40 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: you beat me by 6 years.. ;) |
| 05:50.50 | luddite | and the drives are chmod 777 for clarity sake |
| 05:50.53 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: heh |
| 05:51.00 | ordinary | luddite: give me your password and I'll check |
| 05:51.00 | luddite | any clues |
| 05:51.04 | luddite | lol |
| 05:51.06 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: I admit I can't spell.. but I'm a science major so it's okay. |
| 05:51.19 | encompass | haha |
| 05:51.30 | encompass | we are all geeks in a chat room. it's ok |
| 05:51.31 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: well, no it's not quite ok... |
| 05:51.41 | Seb | i mean, in here I guess... |
| 05:52.04 | spdf | I'm sure we can all handle a few spelling mistakes.. |
| 05:52.10 | encompass | Seb at least TwistedEmotions is a real word |
| 05:52.14 | encompass | what does seb mean |
| 05:52.26 | Seb | spdf: "your jellous" is on another level man :D |
| 05:52.27 | spdf | Perhaps his name is Sebastian? |
| 05:52.29 | Seb | encompass: my firstname |
| 05:52.33 | Seb | right on |
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| 05:52.40 | encompass | ohhh |
| 05:52.50 | TwistedEmotions | encompass: hahaha |
| 05:52.52 | encompass | My first name is encompass |
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| 05:53.01 | spdf | OooOo.. Give me another one.. deadcat? Too easy. encompass? Maybe you're fat.. we get it.. *Ooo.. JOKE* |
| 05:53.01 | encompass | ;P |
| 05:53.10 | stew | encompass: but you go by jason online? |
| 05:53.11 | encompass | I was |
| 05:53.12 | encompass | haha |
| 05:53.25 | encompass | the chinise name for brower, my last name is bow |
| 05:53.33 | encompass | bow means large and encompassing |
| 05:53.36 | some_dude | where are the fonts ? |
| 05:53.39 | encompass | I was fat when I got the name |
| 05:53.44 | deadcat | encompass: thats a sissy lastname |
| 05:53.50 | encompass | brower? |
| 05:53.56 | spdf | some_dude, I think I heard about a party going on.. I suspect we weren't invited.. |
| 05:54.00 | encompass | it is dutch for man who makes beer |
| 05:54.05 | deadcat | damn. what a game on FOX |
| 05:54.05 | Seb | some_dude: could you possibly be even more vague ? |
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| 05:54.09 | Seb | deadcat: heh |
| 05:54.13 | deadcat | Seb: (= |
| 05:54.14 | Seb | deadcat: waaaay too long man |
| 05:54.25 | some_dude | Seb i could |
| 05:54.27 | Seb | longest fucking world series game ever |
| 05:54.30 | Seb | pardon my french |
| 05:54.31 | Seb | some_dude: try me |
| 05:54.45 | some_dude | where is that file ? |
| 05:54.46 | encompass | some_dude now that is a nickname |
| 05:54.53 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no luck on NAT ;(? |
| 05:54.54 | deadcat | Seb: although i think the umps been helping the whitesox though |
| 05:55.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah |
| 05:55.07 | Seb | some_dude: man, you could have done "where is it?". Much better. You suck. |
| 05:55.08 | deadcat | spdf: haha you missed it. |
| 05:55.17 | Seb | deadcat: hmm, I dunno |
| 05:55.23 | Seb | deadcat: i liek the Sox anyway, must be why :D |
| 05:55.29 | deadcat | Seb: (= |
| 05:55.39 | some_dude | Seb I was saving that one for next time, but ruin it |
| 05:55.42 | deadcat | Seb: i dont care who wins, just no yankee bitches. |
| 05:55.58 | encompass | I don't have television, in finland it cost 200¤ a year to have a tv |
| 05:56.01 | Seb | deadcat: cheeeea, yeah, precisely :D |
| 05:56.09 | encompass | willing to spend 200 on computer stuff |
| 05:56.09 | Seb | wow |
| 05:56.18 | spdf | What's that in US dollhairs? |
| 05:56.22 | Seb | i was sure my locale or somethign oculdn't handle it |
| 05:56.23 | deadcat | Seb: we choked in 2002, so i dont care who wins now, we wont be going back for a LONG time |
| 05:56.24 | Seb | encompass: thx man :D |
| 05:56.26 | encompass | 240 us |
| 05:56.30 | spdf | That's it? |
| 05:56.32 | TwistedEmotions | encompass: they're asking for 45$ a month in california.. I toldem to blow me |
| 05:56.39 | Seb | deadcat: yeah, 2002 was a real bummer |
| 05:56.40 | encompass | I have lots of cool stuff on a finnish keyboard |
| 05:56.42 | encompass | | |
| 05:56.52 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: where at in CA ? |
| 05:56.54 | spdf | My cable bill is $120CAD every month.. |
| 05:56.57 | Seb | | |
| 05:57.01 | encompass | ouch |
| 05:57.06 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: Davis :P |
| 05:57.13 | encompass | I don't like television, I like irc :D |
| 05:57.14 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: k |
| 05:57.19 | deadcat | Seb: you? |
| 05:57.23 | Seb | irc makes baseball bearable |
| 05:57.26 | Seb | SF |
| 05:57.27 | encompass | ha |
| 05:57.32 | TwistedEmotions | Seb: I think since all the UC Students are living together they charge up the butt |
| 05:57.37 | deadcat | Seb: ya.. fucking game 6. |
| 05:57.42 | Seb | deadcat: :( |
| 05:57.46 | Seb | TwistedEmotions: heheh |
| 05:57.50 | some_dude | my VNC server can not find the fixed font in /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/* |
| 05:57.50 | spdf | I'm going to be in LA for a week or two starting Nov 10th.. |
| 05:58.09 | Seb | deadcat: where you at again ? |
| 05:58.17 | encompass | blizzard here in finland... I am stuck in the dark cold for ages! |
| 05:58.26 | encompass | at least I live with the world of linux. |
| 05:58.29 | Seb | encompass: went to the pool this afternoon ;) |
| 05:58.42 | spdf | encompass, another couple of weeks and I'll be in the same boat.. |
| 05:58.47 | some_dude | so where are the fonts at on a standard debian install ? |
| 05:58.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: going to nap nap ;) msg me if you find it.. I edited the file a little bit because it was forwarding tForwarding port 22 to 10.10.10.69 ... so I changed classes and shit like that but otherwise file should be the same |
| 05:59.02 | encompass | Where you go to a computer shop and they don't give you a dumb look when you say the "L" word |
| 05:59.07 | Seb | some_dude: see, I knew you'd give in |
| 05:59.08 | deadcat | Seb: currently pittsburgh, but i was in sf in 2002. we talked last time right? you said couldnt make it to linuxworld because you had to go to france i think |
| 05:59.13 | some_dude | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.13 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ok. |
| 05:59.14 | some_dude | to ? |
| 05:59.17 | Seb | deadcat: yeah |
| 05:59.32 | Seb | deadcat: you live there now ? |
| 05:59.35 | spdf | some_dude, /usr/share/fonts maybe? |
| 05:59.36 | deadcat | Seb: ya |
| 05:59.36 | Seb | deadcat: CMU ? :) |
| 05:59.42 | deadcat | Seb: CMU? |
| 05:59.51 | Seb | Carnegie-Melon U |
| 05:59.55 | Seb | ain't that in Pittsburgh ? |
| 05:59.57 | Seb | haha |
| 06:00.02 | Seb | ok |
| 06:00.02 | some_dude | i only have one font |
| 06:00.04 | Seb | gotcha :) |
| 06:00.06 | deadcat | Seb: no. east bay (= |
| 06:00.07 | some_dude | is there a font package ? |
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| 06:00.13 | Seb | deadcat: yeah just figured :D |
| 06:00.16 | deadcat | hahah |
| 06:00.22 | deadcat | other side of the bridge. |
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| 06:00.30 | deadcat | must be the joint |
| 06:00.31 | encompass | how do I get out of a menu in centericq |
| 06:00.45 | Seb | encompass: esc-esc |
| 06:00.45 | spdf | some_dude, depends on what you want them for.. X? Console? BE LESS VAGUE PLEASE. |
| 06:00.53 | some_dude | X |
| 06:00.54 | some_dude | sorry |
| 06:00.59 | some_dude | VNC |
| 06:01.00 | Seb | some_dude: apt-cache search fonts |
| 06:01.07 | spdf | some_dude, ttf-xfree86-non-free might be a start.. |
| 06:01.17 | some_dude | if i install VNC does that install the fonts i need ? |
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| 06:01.35 | Seb | some_dude: tell us what you need them for ? |
| 06:01.40 | Seb | some_dude: what is currently your problem ? |
| 06:01.46 | some_dude | ah |
| 06:01.49 | spdf | some_dude, scratch that last dash.. |
| 06:01.49 | Seb | and, preventively: |
| 06:01.52 | Seb | !doesn't work |
| 06:01.52 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 06:02.01 | Seb | there, now the rules are set |
| 06:02.14 | some_dude | Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' |
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| 06:02.26 | spdf | some_dude, it doesn't provide too many fonts though.. |
| 06:02.32 | Seb | some_dude: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 06:02.33 | some_dude | when running vncserver :0 I get Fatal server error: |
| 06:02.33 | some_dude | could not open default font 'fixed' |
| 06:02.40 | Seb | some_dude: that'll get ya pretty much anything needed for x |
| 06:03.07 | some_dude | that's the one i wanted |
| 06:03.44 | Seb | some_dude: alternatively, go with xfonts-75dpi and start from there |
| 06:03.56 | Seb | some_dude: ...-core is prolyl overkill for ya, but well... |
| 06:04.12 | Seb | deadcat: and 7 |
| 06:04.34 | deadcat | 7? |
| 06:04.44 | Seb | deadcat: 7 to 5 |
| 06:04.49 | deadcat | oh )= |
| 06:04.52 | deadcat | idiot man |
| 06:05.01 | Seb | heh |
| 06:05.10 | deadcat | i think their last pitcher is up now (= |
| 06:05.27 | deadcat | Seb: they are keeping me from doing my school work and shower hahah |
| 06:05.35 | dpower | Go Go sox |
| 06:05.42 | Seb | deadcat: i didn't even know there was such a thing as a *last* pitcher :D |
| 06:05.52 | dpower | Did you see that stuff on that guys face? |
| 06:05.53 | dpower | :/ |
| 06:05.57 | deadcat | Seb: if they run out. they fucked |
| 06:05.59 | Seb | deadcat: i'm still learning some of the rules, even after 3 years ;) |
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| 06:06.08 | Seb | dpower: sheeeet, i was wondering wtf that was ! |
| 06:06.10 | deadcat | make the shortstop pitch |
| 06:06.16 | Seb | deadcat: heh |
| 06:06.18 | deadcat | Seb: (= |
| 06:06.39 | deadcat | Seb: well they still have starting pitchers but that would be real bad. |
| 06:06.54 | Seb | seen that, 19 lines about baseball, without one geek comment/question in the middle |
| 06:07.00 | Seb | that must be a world record too |
| 06:07.07 | dpower | Sox have buehrle getting warm in the pen... |
| 06:07.24 | dpower | ahahaah |
| 06:08.10 | xixor | is it world series now? |
| 06:08.20 | deadcat | xixor: ya. game 3. |
| 06:08.25 | xixor | whos playing? |
| 06:08.50 | Roots | wtf? Baseball at 1AM? |
| 06:08.51 | xixor | I know I could google it, but asking is more social |
| 06:08.51 | deadcat | xixor: whitesox vs astros |
| 06:08.53 | deadcat | Roots: ya. xxxtra innnings |
| 06:08.59 | xixor | cool |
| 06:09.06 | spdf | Roots, Long game. Its 7-5 now though, so its pretty much over... |
| 06:09.12 | deadcat | ya |
| 06:09.13 | xixor | whoa, what inning is it? |
| 06:09.18 | Seb | let's hope so |
| 06:09.19 | Seb | 14th |
| 06:09.20 | spdf | xixor, Top of 14.. |
| 06:09.23 | xixor | holy dyna |
| 06:09.24 | Seb | bottom now |
| 06:09.26 | some_dude | who is up ? |
| 06:09.28 | deadcat | cant wait for chicago to burn their city down again (= |
| 06:09.34 | Roots | wow |
| 06:09.35 | dpower | This city will riot if the Sox win this |
| 06:09.40 | dpower | win the series that is |
| 06:09.42 | some_dude | who here is from houston ? |
| 06:09.48 | deadcat | dpower: no shit.. (= and we know atleast few will die, |
| 06:09.49 | xixor | I watched my first major league baseball game about a month ago, Rockies vs. Dodgers.. man, I could barely last the 9 innings at the field |
| 06:09.50 | Roots | I'm from Austin, do I win? |
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| 06:09.55 | dpower | well hopefully not |
| 06:09.57 | deadcat | Roots: no. you guys sucks |
| 06:09.59 | spdf | deadcat, Guess the north end of the US is due for a hurricaine of sorts.. |
| 06:10.08 | deadcat | spdf: hahah |
| 06:10.16 | Roots | I rioted once. It was fun |
| 06:10.28 | some_dude | I'm from Houston, and n Houston now but I'm not watching the game |
| 06:10.29 | Roots | I didn't do anything bad though. I just pretended like I was angry and unruly |
| 06:10.31 | dpower | did you loot? |
| 06:10.32 | some_dude | who's up ? |
| 06:10.33 | Seb | funny how americans refer to their champions/finals as *world* series or NBA *world* champions :> |
| 06:10.41 | deadcat | dpower: hahaha |
| 06:10.43 | Seb | i mean, for baseball, you're pretty much alone to play so it's ok |
| 06:10.54 | Seb | but wdf is up with the NBA *wolrd* champions ? :D |
| 06:11.01 | deadcat | Seb: ya.. world == us if you are in the states hehe |
| 06:11.18 | Seb | deadcat: if it was only at such a laughable level :\ |
| 06:11.47 | deadcat | i guess |
| 06:11.53 | spdf | Heh.. "Sniffin' the wind" |
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| 06:13.21 | Gnea | oh snap, xmms is segfaulting in sid, anyone else get this? |
| 06:13.39 | Seb | astros 2-run homerun, they are tied at 7 !!!!!! |
| 06:13.50 | spdf | Its done.. |
| 06:13.52 | Seb | just kidding |
| 06:14.00 | jbroome | hell, this sounds interesting enough to get me from in front of computer |
| 06:14.03 | vortek | is there a way to ask dpkg what version of a package is in a distro like sarge and kde |
| 06:14.30 | Seb | vortek: hmm, i dunno. packages.debian.org knows, though |
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| 06:14.38 | Seb | cmon, homerun |
| 06:14.48 | bkwiecien | vortek: probably, but aptitude will display versions available to you in those repositories |
| 06:14.49 | spdf | Ooo.. Almost. |
| 06:15.06 | jbroome | vortek: /msg dpkg info pkgname |
| 06:15.49 | vortek | thanxs |
| 06:16.12 | jbroome | np |
| 06:16.22 | vortek | I did that already thats not the real version :P hehe |
| 06:16.22 | spdf | Oh, the suspense of it all.. |
| 06:16.31 | deadcat | oh damn |
| 06:16.32 | Seb | holy shit ! |
| 06:16.33 | spdf | HAHAHA |
| 06:16.37 | Seb | error !!!!! |
| 06:16.39 | spdf | THATS GRRRREAT |
| 06:16.45 | deadcat | dont tie it up please (= |
| 06:16.48 | Seb | yes yes yes |
| 06:16.48 | vortek | thatso k though I found the info |
| 06:16.59 | spdf | He hates himself right now |
| 06:17.03 | deadcat | i need my beauty sleep man hehe |
| 06:17.05 | Seb | i like the sox but i'd like an 8-hour game even better :D |
| 06:17.19 | dpower | this just got very interesting |
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| 06:17.27 | deadcat | i think the sox gonna choke |
| 06:17.31 | spdf | I hope he gets a fair share of towel whipin' tonight.. |
| 06:17.32 | dpower | deadcat: nooo |
| 06:17.33 | Seb | nah |
| 06:17.44 | deadcat | they always choke on the big ones.... |
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| 06:17.48 | deadcat | just like paris hilton. |
| 06:17.53 | Gnea | heh |
| 06:17.59 | spdf | Bah, She doesn't choke. She's a champ. |
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| 06:18.15 | deadcat | (=. thats the worst blowjob i've seen |
| 06:18.22 | spdf | Balls to the wall.. Or roof.. of mouth... |
| 06:18.25 | deadcat | that bitch cant fuck |
| 06:18.39 | Seb | deadcat: you could show her |
| 06:18.44 | Seb | :) |
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| 06:19.04 | dpower | heh |
| 06:19.12 | deadcat | Seb: actually if you pay me and she wants to fuck me, i would pass.. no joke. |
| 06:19.32 | tito__ | is there any software for my wireless card in my laptop...so that i can scan for a network? |
| 06:19.35 | Seb | deadcat: hah |
| 06:19.39 | deadcat | tito__: kismet |
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| 06:19.55 | deadcat | tito__: hows michael and jermaine doing? |
| 06:19.58 | Seb | he gonna load em up ? |
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| 06:20.08 | DracoDan | im sure youve all seen it, but ill post anyway - http://www.bash.org/?564197 |
| 06:20.15 | tito__ | kismet? ok......do you know of any in ubuntu --->deadcat? |
| 06:20.31 | Seb | this is it |
| 06:20.40 | dpower | YES |
| 06:20.40 | spdf | tito__, swscanner as well |
| 06:20.44 | deadcat | tito__: know what? |
| 06:20.54 | tito__ | if there is any in ubuntu |
| 06:20.57 | tito__ | thanx spdf |
| 06:21.09 | deadcat | tito__: hell if i know. i dont fucking use ubuntu. why dont you ask there? |
| 06:21.10 | jbroome | thank god bash.org is back up |
| 06:21.14 | Seb | deadcat: "does he know you from #ubuntu?" ? |
| 06:21.20 | tito__ | lol |
| 06:21.22 | tito__ | just asking |
| 06:21.28 | deadcat | DracoDan: hahahaha |
| 06:21.30 | deadcat | funny |
| 06:21.40 | tito__ | they are similar |
| 06:21.43 | deadcat | Seb: i hope not (= |
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| 06:21.55 | Seb | hah |
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| 06:22.26 | DracoDan | jbroome: yeah, no kidding, i was worried for a while |
| 06:22.40 | DracoDan | theres always qdb.us though |
| 06:22.55 | DracoDan | which is actually ran by the original programmer of bash.org |
| 06:23.07 | DracoDan | its all in the wiki |
| 06:23.56 | deadcat | iptables -A INPUT -p udp -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 6881:6889 -j ACCEPT |
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| 06:24.13 | spdf | Haha @ http://www.bash.org/?564197 |
| 06:25.06 | spdf | I don't think I'd do anything terribly malicious.. maybe something in motd, or hostname.. fun stuff.. |
| 06:25.08 | deadcat | ya. that was funny |
| 06:25.18 | deadcat | the funny part was i sshed into that machine |
| 06:25.38 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:25.38 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 06:25.43 | tarzeau | yay it's over 8000 now! |
| 06:25.53 | spdf | tarzeau, Joined this morning :) |
| 06:26.04 | tarzeau | spdf: very cool! |
| 06:26.14 | spdf | tarzeau, It was after you remarked "Almost 8000!" |
| 06:26.27 | tarzeau | spdf: heh :). i might add one kfreebsd tonight |
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| 06:26.38 | streuner | spdf: nobody of the regulars would say to anybody 'Give me a ssh account on your machine' ... |
| 06:26.40 | tarzeau | and i really should have a look at the current debian gnu/hurd |
| 06:27.01 | Gnea | streuner: give me a ssh account on your machine. |
| 06:27.05 | streuner | spdf: and _NO_ root account |
| 06:27.12 | streuner | Gnea: haha |
| 06:27.19 | Gnea | streuner: and gimme your root password while yer at it |
| 06:27.20 | Gnea | :) |
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| 06:27.27 | streuner | haha |
| 06:27.40 | streuner | spdf: see what happens? ... |
| 06:28.04 | tarzeau | streuner: the selinux debian people gave root accounts last year or one before |
| 06:28.16 | tarzeau | Gnea: gets killed all the time? |
| 06:28.19 | Gnea | streuner: yeah, figured that'd get someone's attention ;) |
| 06:28.22 | tarzeau | Gnea: same here. use opencubicplayer or madplay |
| 06:28.29 | Gnea | tarzeau: segmentation fault |
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| 06:28.45 | tarzeau | Gnea: yeah, it sucks. xmms just sucks |
| 06:28.51 | deadcat | somebody help me on mplayer/mencoder |
| 06:29.02 | deadcat | trying to record tv shows with mencoder, but no sound |
| 06:29.03 | Gnea | well i'm trying to figure out if it's a utf-8 issue or not |
| 06:29.07 | tarzeau | Gnea: especially if you don't know the number of the song you want to play (especially if number of songs is > 500) |
| 06:29.11 | Gnea | mencoder SUCKS |
| 06:29.18 | tarzeau | Gnea: no, mencoder is nice |
| 06:29.23 | deadcat | Gnea: recomend? |
| 06:29.30 | Gnea | i'm being sarcastic, uhm |
| 06:29.35 | Gnea | i never could get recording to work like that |
| 06:29.43 | deadcat | this what i have so far |
| 06:29.47 | deadcat | http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/tvo |
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| 06:30.01 | deadcat | sound dont work. i dont know how to set channel. |
| 06:30.04 | Gnea | madplay is working fine here |
| 06:30.18 | Gnea | cd |
| 06:30.20 | deadcat | Gnea: madplay? |
| 06:30.25 | Gnea | blah |
| 06:30.26 | Gnea | yeah |
| 06:30.32 | Gnea | tarzeau: |
| 06:30.40 | spdf | deadcat, There's sound when you're just watching, right? |
| 06:30.41 | tarzeau | deadcat: nice mp3 player |
| 06:31.08 | deadcat | spdf: using diff software. not mplayer though |
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| 06:31.14 | deadcat | tarzeau: let me check |
| 06:31.19 | slowns | this is a dumb question but .. whats the command to load kde ? |
| 06:31.28 | tarzeau | slowns: startkde? |
| 06:31.39 | tarzeau | slowns: actually you type startx in console |
| 06:31.44 | tarzeau | slowns: and have the other in .xsession |
| 06:31.48 | slowns | ahh word |
| 06:31.58 | calljair | guys if I have three machines PIII 128MB and I want to use this servers: php, apache, mysql, firewall iptables, postfix. |
| 06:32.00 | streuner | slowns: put that in ~/.xsession 'exec startkde' or run kdm |
| 06:32.01 | deadcat | tarzeau: it sucks. why not just mpg321 |
| 06:32.13 | calljair | how should I install them any recomendation? |
| 06:32.28 | Gnea | amaroK: [Loader] amarokapp probably crashed! |
| 06:32.34 | Gnea | oh my. |
| 06:32.44 | slowns | I dont have no .xsession in my user directly |
| 06:32.45 | deadcat | spdf: i am trying to use mencoder to record shows so i dont have to stay up at 12am (= |
| 06:32.53 | Gnea | yup, sid's broke |
| 06:32.54 | deadcat | slowns: create it |
| 06:32.59 | tarzeau | slowns: touch .xsession and you have one |
| 06:33.01 | slowns | and when I make one and ptut startkde e still loads |
| 06:33.10 | calljair | (machine1) = apache, php, mysql (machine2) = postfix (machine3) = iptables |
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| 06:33.22 | tarzeau | calljair: you need more memory for machine1 |
| 06:33.30 | tarzeau | calljair: or put mysql to machine3 |
| 06:33.34 | slowns | I mean I already creaded a .xession |
| 06:33.35 | spdf | deadcat, you could rip them straight to mpg, and reencode afterwards with transcode |
| 06:33.39 | slowns | and put startkde in it |
| 06:33.44 | slowns | but enligthenment still starts |
| 06:33.51 | streuner | !wm |
| 06:33.52 | dpkg | to set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". or "update-alternatives --config x-session-manager" For your personal WM, use ~/.xsession if you use xdm or kdm (or gdm with a "Debian session") 'startx' reads .xsession or .xinitrc; "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager" will give you a list of available WMs. |
| 06:33.56 | tarzeau | calljair: or put memory of machine2 into machine1 and postfix on machine3 |
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| 06:34.03 | Gnea | 0xb6fe731a in _nv000000gl () from /usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1 |
| 06:34.04 | deadcat | spdf: how? |
| 06:34.06 | Gnea | ah HA |
| 06:34.11 | slowns | oh word .xinitrc is still there |
| 06:34.19 | slowns | ill just use that |
| 06:34.41 | ke6isf | How would one go about converting an AVI to an MPEG cleanly? |
| 06:35.06 | Guerin | ke6isf: transcode |
| 06:35.14 | Gnea | OEO |
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| 06:35.15 | Guerin | ke6isf: you know avi is mpeg, right? |
| 06:35.16 | Gnea | <- idiot. |
| 06:35.21 | Guerin | mpeg-4 to be precise |
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| 06:35.33 | Gnea | Guerin: crack smoker. |
| 06:35.46 | Guerin | Gnea: you should get help with that. |
| 06:35.54 | Gnea | Guerin: i don't do it. |
| 06:35.54 | calljair | tarzeau, nice |
| 06:35.56 | torc | hp does not provide debian drivers\software support for our hp server, but instead there are drivers for redhat,suse,unitedlinux/suse. which distro ones are the most "compatible" with debian? |
| 06:36.03 | calljair | tarzeau, thank you very much |
| 06:36.08 | deadcat | how do you guys record tvshows? on a bttv card |
| 06:36.11 | Gnea | Guerin: but avi != mpeg |
| 06:36.19 | Guerin | torc: are they prebuilt, binary driver? or source packages for the above? |
| 06:36.21 | ke6isf | Guerin: ...I did not know that. |
| 06:36.23 | calljair | tarzeau, for a office of around 200 user not more |
| 06:36.24 | tarzeau | deadcat: xvidcap ? |
| 06:36.35 | deadcat | tarzeau: no x |
| 06:36.37 | Guerin | Gnea: avi is a container format. mpeg is many things. |
| 06:36.46 | streuner | !avi |
| 06:36.46 | dpkg | i guess avi is an acronym for Audio Video Interleave, for avi playback, ask me about <mplayer>, <xine>, <w32codecs> |
| 06:36.55 | tarzeau | deadcat: i've never done so... but i can check if i can do |
| 06:36.57 | torc | Guerin: those are 'blablabla.src.rpm', does that mean they are in source form? |
| 06:37.10 | spdf | deadcat, I'm checking around. I know of a place somewhere on these internets with such an example.. |
| 06:37.14 | Gnea | Guerin: in the context that you grouped them together, a format for playback of video formats - you mentioned nothing of layer 3, etc |
| 06:37.22 | Guerin | torc: yeah. You can use any of them, really. Just extract the source someplace and build it for your debian boxen. |
| 06:37.24 | ke6isf | Guerin: The application is a DVD player that can't handle AVI. |
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| 06:37.40 | deadcat | spdf: i got it from: http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Mencoder but it doesnt tell me about sound and channel |
| 06:37.57 | deadcat | and mencoder tv://<channel> doesnt do shit here. |
| 06:37.59 | torc | Guerin: nice! what about storage drivers? what if vanilla kernel provides some, should i mess with those hp ones? |
| 06:38.17 | torc | Guerin: storage are in binary 'i386.rpm'. |
| 06:38.29 | torc | Guerin: and depend on specific kernels :( |
| 06:38.36 | Guerin | ke6isf: i bet it's not avi it can't do, i bet it's the codec the thing is encoded in. Container format is like that tar; codec is like the gz, if you get my meaning. |
| 06:38.46 | Guerin | torc: they may or may not work. |
| 06:39.14 | ke6isf | Guerin: Yeah, I think I follow - I don't know much about media formats, I haven't paid much attention. But I'm taking a gander at transcode right now. |
| 06:39.27 | Guerin | ke6isf: but nevertheless, it's easy enough to transcode to something your player can play |
| 06:39.44 | ke6isf | Guerin: Looks it. |
| 06:39.50 | torc | Guerin: oic. i plan to install vmware gsx server there and divide this server to several virtual windows machines. CPUs support em64t. should i go with the old i386 or try the new amd64? |
| 06:39.54 | Guerin | ke6isf: if you're not careful, though, you might lose quality. |
| 06:40.14 | Guerin | torc: no idea. |
| 06:40.43 | torc | Guerin: yeah, i just wonder if amd64 is already as stable as i386. |
| 06:40.54 | ke6isf | Guerin: If anything, I'll see what else my wife has collected, and do a quick comparison using file. |
| 06:41.05 | calljair | tarzeau, but I will probably need to use mysql with postfix |
| 06:41.38 | calljair | but in general for an organization with 200 users I think will be good enough? |
| 06:41.44 | torc | oh. does stable have any /amd64 ? |
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| 06:42.00 | calljair | or I should get three real servers with 250GB and 2GB memory? |
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| 06:42.06 | benny | i get this error message in relation to my sound when i boot into kde |
| 06:42.07 | benny | device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) |
| 06:42.26 | benny | what is going on> |
| 06:42.48 | Guerin | torc: ask #debian-amd64 - the answer is probably 'depends', and if the answer is 'depends', then the answer is 'no' |
| 06:42.50 | eXa_bOy | i accidently said yes to a mouse when installing x-windows, apt-get uninstall doesnt clear the config stuff... how can i start again? |
| 06:42.58 | torc | Guerin: thanks :) |
| 06:43.14 | spdf | deadcat, try adding a :device=/dev/video0 in your driver= part.. |
| 06:43.15 | Guerin | calljair: why are you asking us? It sounds like this is an important enough decision for you to hire a consultant. |
| 06:43.22 | deadcat | spdf: k |
| 06:43.44 | spdf | deadcat, and.. -oac copy |
| 06:43.44 | calljair | Guerin, I don't really really think I need a consultant |
| 06:43.51 | calljair | but thank you |
| 06:43.56 | calljair | anyway |
| 06:43.58 | eXa_bOy | anyone? |
| 06:44.02 | deadcat | spdf: copy instead of mp3lame? |
| 06:44.06 | bob2 | if you're asking for help on irc, you have alreadly lost |
| 06:44.18 | bob2 | eXa_bOy: uh, by reading the apt manual? hint: --purge |
| 06:44.28 | calljair | and this is how Linux is "opensource" and received "volunteer support" in IRC |
| 06:44.29 | spdf | deadcat, I guess mp3lame will give you compressed audio.. hmm.. |
| 06:44.39 | deadcat | ya |
| 06:44.47 | scruffy_ | benny: does it exist? ls -l /dev/dsp |
| 06:45.06 | spdf | deadcat, Give it a try with uncompressed.. if you get audio, then we're getting somewhere |
| 06:45.17 | deadcat | spdf: true. thanks |
| 06:45.21 | benny | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2005-10-23 16:41 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 06:45.33 | scruffy_ | benny: add yourself to the audio group |
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| 06:45.50 | SimonRaven | !tell benny about audio |
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| 06:47.10 | benny | The user `benny' is already a member of `audio'. |
| 06:47.27 | scruffy_ | benny: look at what dpkg said then |
| 06:47.38 | bob2 | calljair: no, this is serious advice |
| 06:47.46 | bob2 | calljair: if you depend on software, pay someone to look after it for you |
| 06:47.55 | bob2 | calljair: any business that depends on #debian is already doomed |
| 06:48.01 | calljair | haha |
| 06:48.04 | calljair | right |
| 06:48.05 | bob2 | calljair: FS doesn't obviate the need for experts |
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| 06:48.19 | calljair | I know guys, but I have some level of knowledge guys |
| 06:48.19 | eXa_bOy | hmmm |
| 06:48.44 | eXa_bOy | bob2 where do i put perge??? |
| 06:48.50 | eXa_bOy | stupid manual... |
| 06:48.55 | calljair | but I think i will be able of handle it myself that is why I am learning all those opensource technologies. |
| 06:49.04 | calljair | to be able of help other as well. |
| 06:49.12 | bob2 | eXa_bOy: the manual makes it quite clear that it's a command line option |
| 06:49.18 | bob2 | ergo, sudo apt-get --purge remove blah |
| 06:49.25 | eXa_bOy | hmmm |
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| 06:49.46 | benny | which command scruffy ? |
| 06:49.56 | stratocast04 | i am new to irc.. i need to know if i did this properly.. i am connected, correct? |
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| 06:50.08 | eXa_bOy | apt-get --perge remove x-windows-system |
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| 06:50.19 | eXa_bOy | E: Command line option --perge is not understood |
| 06:50.22 | ke6isf | eXa_bOy: Try 'purge' instead of 'perge'. |
| 06:50.28 | eXa_bOy | jesus |
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| 06:50.55 | eXa_bOy | gah wrong package too |
| 06:51.07 | deadcat | thats what happen when you cant spell (= |
| 06:51.34 | bob2 | eXa_bOy: this is not a good plan if all you want to do is disable the mouse, tho |
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| 06:51.50 | Gnea | hrmmm |
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| 06:52.12 | Gnea | it would appear that the nvidia setup was slightly off, and xlibmesa-gl wasn't properly installing |
| 06:52.24 | Gnea | tarzeau: xmms lives once more. |
| 06:52.31 | SimonRaven | gawds, you won't get very far if you keep misspelling commands and their options |
| 06:52.51 | tarzeau | Gnea: try cynthiune.app once |
| 06:52.57 | Farris1 | I have a dual Xeon box, and I turned off hyperthreading, but now /proc/cpuinfo shoes two procs with the same "physical id". Is this misleading, or is it actually just using one proc and still using HT? |
| 06:53.11 | benny | ok.. the thing is, my sound has been working for weeks, and just stopped working and gave this message |
| 06:53.20 | benny | i am part of the audio group |
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| 06:53.31 | Gnea | guh-new-step |
| 06:53.32 | eXa_bOy | man my net is like a yo-yo |
| 06:53.58 | tarzeau | Farris1: can you paste the physical id line? i can't see anything like that |
| 06:54.30 | Gnea | tarzeau: /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/Cynthiune.app/Cynthiune: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Library/Bundles/libgnustep-back.bundle/./libgnustep-back: undefined symbol: FTC_Manager_Lookup_Size |
| 06:54.33 | scruffy | benny: does this return 'audio'? ls -g /dev/dsp0 | awk '{print $3}' |
| 06:54.35 | Farris1 | tarzeau: "physical id : 0" |
| 06:54.39 | eXa_bOy | ok better question... how do i work out what type of mouse i have? |
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| 06:54.52 | eXa_bOy | and then how do i get x to play-ball with my mouse? |
| 06:54.57 | tarzeau | Farris1: i don't have such line, do you run 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 06:55.02 | Farris1 | 2.6 |
| 06:55.21 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: how does your mouse plug in, how many buttons has it, and what kernel are you running? |
| 06:55.28 | tarzeau | Gnea: here get the one from testing/stable packages.debian.org/libfreetype6 and see BTS of it |
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| 06:55.40 | SimonRaven | anus, 16, 2.5.64 |
| 06:55.44 | eXa_bOy | hi Guerin, week 6 is up on mininova ... BOUT TIME!!! :P |
| 06:55.45 | tarzeau | Farris1: maybe it was different on 2.4, i got 2.4 here |
| 06:55.50 | linux-m | hi everyone |
| 06:56.06 | linux-m | whats with registering nicks to speak |
| 06:56.20 | Gnea | Outstanding bugs -- Wishlist items; Will Not Fix (1 bug) |
| 06:56.20 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.26 | Guerin | oh god, it's Zoo/clint- again |
| 06:56.30 | Gnea | tarzeau: that one? |
| 06:56.31 | tarzeau | Gnea: bts of libfreetype6 |
| 06:56.36 | linux-m | anyone have any experience with fedora core |
| 06:56.45 | SimonRaven | linux-m: #fedora |
| 06:56.45 | deadcat | linux-m: no |
| 06:56.46 | eXa_bOy | my mouse pluggs in to a USB-PS2 converter and then into the ps2 port. it is a nice microsoft mouse, optic with red light ;) |
| 06:56.47 | tarzeau | Gnea: no, menu icons don't exist |
| 06:56.48 | Guerin | linux-m: yes, lots of people in #fedora |
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| 06:56.58 | linux-m | hey Gnea |
| 06:57.01 | Gnea | linux-m: are you retawded? |
| 06:57.07 | linux-m | yep.. :- ) |
| 06:57.12 | Gnea | oh shit. |
| 06:57.14 | tarzeau | menu icons with 16 colors and no alpha suck. especially if you need them in xpm |
| 06:57.16 | Gnea | it's clint-/Zoo |
| 06:57.23 | tarzeau | oh, and all kinds of diffferent sizes. hilarious |
| 06:57.25 | deadcat | linux-m: you have experience with fixing toilet? |
| 06:57.29 | spdf | linux-m, We figured as much.. :) |
| 06:57.37 | linux-m | hee |
| 06:57.40 | linux-m | how ya been |
| 06:57.45 | SimonRaven | linux-m: do you have experience with stuck butt plugs? |
| 06:57.46 | linux-m | sorry for other night |
| 06:57.57 | deadcat | linux-m: what you do? left him after sex? |
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| 06:58.06 | Guerin | SimonRaven: clever, very clever. |
| 06:58.21 | clint- | hi spdf |
| 06:58.24 | eXa_bOy | Guerin did you see my mouse stuff? |
| 06:58.35 | Drakh | how about that |
| 06:58.40 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: you didn't answer my questions, so I ignored it. |
| 06:58.42 | spdf | clint-, hello sir.. |
| 06:58.46 | eXa_bOy | (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice |
| 06:58.47 | clint- | installing the system, that I bought the book and it came with it |
| 06:58.48 | svizzero | anyone knows how to create a ntfs partition from linux? |
| 06:58.51 | svizzero | with fdsik |
| 06:58.51 | eXa_bOy | yeah i did... |
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| 06:58.59 | Gnea | Outstanding bugs -- Wishlist items; Will Not Fix (1 bug) |
| 06:58.59 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:59.00 | eXa_bOy | my mouse plugs in to a USB-PS2 converter and then into the ps2 port. it is a nice microsoft mouse, optic with red light ;) |
| 06:59.03 | tarzeau | svizzero: use cfdisk |
| 06:59.03 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: reread the questions and try again |
| 06:59.05 | Gnea | tarzeau: that's priceless. |
| 06:59.08 | clint- | well you can do it with disk drake |
| 06:59.31 | tarzeau | Gnea: haha |
| 06:59.38 | clint- | and ubcd |
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| 06:59.50 | svizzero | tarzeau, ok I createad the partition, how can I format it? |
| 06:59.52 | eXa_bOy | mouse plugs in via ps2 port. it has 2 buttons and a scrolly wheel. im running sarge. |
| 06:59.55 | SimonRaven | ok, obvious troll, *plonk* |
| 06:59.57 | tarzeau | Gnea: like #241614 ? |
| 07:00.01 | clint- | and probably many others.. hey spdf |
| 07:00.06 | spdf | eXa_bOy, imps2 perhaps |
| 07:00.11 | tarzeau | !format |
| 07:00.11 | dpkg | format is, like, apparently what Windows users call "mke2fs""fdisk" or both, or on floppies use superformat |
| 07:00.12 | Gnea | SimonRaven: that's why /ignore went into immediate effect. |
| 07:00.19 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: still didn't tell me the kernel |
| 07:00.21 | tarzeau | svizzero: you mean write a filesystem onto it? ntfs4 or 5? |
| 07:00.30 | clint- | hey spdf |
| 07:00.30 | eXa_bOy | er... how do i work that out? |
| 07:00.36 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: uname -r |
| 07:00.37 | svizzero | tarzeau, ntfs for windows xp |
| 07:00.38 | tarzeau | svizzero: what about with windows nt, 2k or xp? |
| 07:00.45 | spdf | clint-, hello. |
| 07:00.45 | eXa_bOy | 2.2.20-idepci |
| 07:00.52 | tarzeau | svizzero: WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT NTFS. THIS IS #DEBIAN HERE |
| 07:00.53 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: wtf |
| 07:00.56 | SimonRaven | oh boy |
| 07:00.58 | clint- | got any experience with red hat, fedora core* |
| 07:00.58 | itp560 | i have a few client machines which is running Sarge, But I want to install OO2. Will this be possible or will it be the same as Woody. ( No more new applications ) |
| 07:01.12 | svizzero | tarzeau, I need a second partition |
| 07:01.15 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-2-386 |
| 07:01.22 | eXa_bOy | ok |
| 07:01.24 | tarzeau | svizzero: ##windows |
| 07:01.31 | clint- | hee |
| 07:01.32 | svizzero | lol |
| 07:01.37 | Guerin | !ops clint- (aka Zoo) is up to his old tricks again |
| 07:01.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: clint- (aka Zoo) is up to his old tricks again |
| 07:01.40 | eXa_bOy | couldnt find package... |
| 07:01.48 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: then you're not running sarge. |
| 07:01.49 | clint- | are you wanting to add other file system reading abilities to linux? |
| 07:01.49 | svizzero | in ##windows they know how to format a partition for windows in linux? |
| 07:01.51 | svizzero | .. |
| 07:02.01 | eXa_bOy | :O |
| 07:02.07 | SimonRaven | itp560: no, stable is stable. get a backport when it's available |
| 07:02.10 | clint- | yes linux and unix can create windows partitions |
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| 07:02.14 | eXa_bOy | hmmm dist-upgrade? |
| 07:02.16 | Guerin | svizzero: tell them to format it to vfat. |
| 07:02.18 | tarzeau | svizzero: yes but they also talk about doors and windows (in walls) |
| 07:02.20 | clint- | and read them |
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| 07:02.24 | Gnea | !ops clint- has returned and is badgering us all with off-topic crap (such as fedora core) |
| 07:02.24 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: ask dpkg about woody->sarge |
| 07:02.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: clint- has returned and is badgering us all with off-topic crap (such as fedora core) |
| 07:02.34 | clint- | :- ) |
| 07:02.34 | tarzeau | clint-: yeah but now he wants to write ntfs filesystem |
| 07:02.41 | eXa_bOy | ooooh its woody... my bad.. fkn CD even says it :P |
| 07:02.46 | clint- | luv you too Gnea.. :- ) |
| 07:02.48 | tarzeau | clint-: next he wants you to install windows for him |
| 07:02.50 | SimonRaven | duh :) |
| 07:02.52 | bob2 | I can see clint |
| 07:03.01 | clint- | how about a network install :- ) |
| 07:03.01 | SimonRaven | i can't =) |
| 07:03.07 | bob2 | but there's more people talking to him than instances of his personality talking to us |
| 07:03.08 | Gnea | neither can i :) |
| 07:03.09 | Guerin | bob2: you weren't here the other night, were you? |
| 07:03.11 | clint- | want Windows Vista.. :- ) want to play with it.. :- ) |
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| 07:03.16 | Gnea | bob2: give it time. |
| 07:03.39 | clint- | I'm not an addict.. :- ) |
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| 07:04.31 | benny | sorry about the delay scruffy - yes it does :) |
| 07:04.55 | darkera | how would I go about changing my apt-source ?? >< |
| 07:05.00 | scruffy | benny: do you have aumix (or another mixer) installed? Check the volume. |
| 07:05.04 | Guerin | darkera: apt-setup |
| 07:05.08 | SimonRaven | apt-setup |
| 07:05.15 | darkera | ty very much |
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| 07:05.49 | scruffy | benny: nevermind, that wouldn't be causing that error. sorry, don't think I have any other ideas. |
| 07:06.00 | benny | yeah, neither mixers opened |
| 07:06.13 | benny | ffs :) |
| 07:06.20 | scruffy | benny: check the permissions on /dev/dsp0 anyway |
| 07:06.22 | benny | thanks for your help anyway |
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| 07:06.55 | Gnea | !beer bob2 |
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| 07:07.24 | benny | benny@banksia:~$ ls -l /dev/dsp0 |
| 07:07.24 | benny | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2005-10-23 16:41 /dev/dsp0 |
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| 07:07.28 | eXa_bOy | ok this is weird... i followed the instructions about woody->sarge and every aptitude i do says : 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 07:08.00 | eXa_bOy | ive looked at my source list and there are no references to woody at all. |
| 07:08.01 | bob2 | eXa_bOy: /etc/apt/sources.list -> #flood |
| 07:08.06 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: paste sources.list to paster |
| 07:08.10 | Guerin | yeh |
| 07:08.12 | Guerin | or flood |
| 07:08.27 | scruffy | benny: maybe something else has it occupied. um.. hang on a sec |
| 07:08.34 | eXa_bOy | ill postbin |
| 07:08.44 | eXa_bOy | pastebin :P |
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| 07:09.21 | eXa_bOy | http://pastebin.com/406189 |
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| 07:10.22 | scruffy | benny: fuser /dev/dsp |
| 07:10.31 | eXa_bOy | its pretty simple... only have 5 sources |
| 07:10.38 | scruffy | benny: or maybe fuser /dev/dsp0 |
| 07:11.08 | scruffy | benny: you may have something starting up before KDE and grabbing /dev/dsp for itself. |
| 07:11.41 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: aptitude update? |
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| 07:12.31 | eXa_bOy | ill pastebin the results... still nothing |
| 07:12.35 | SilentBob | http://pastebin.com/406187 <--- click on me... Can someone look at that pastebin link and tell me why fglrxinfo shows the mesa libraries...and how to change that. |
| 07:12.41 | SilentBob | http://pastebin.com/406190 <--- My xorg.conf |
| 07:13.22 | eXa_bOy | http://pastebin.com/406194 |
| 07:13.54 | eXa_bOy | should i add a better source into my list? |
| 07:14.06 | valdyn | SilentBob: lsmod | grep fglrx and also try running glxinfo as root |
| 07:14.17 | spdf | SilentBob, fglrx module loaded fine? how about some dmesg action.. and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 07:14.22 | azeem | eXa_bOy: what does 'dpkt -l libc6' say in the last line? |
| 07:14.27 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 07:14.28 | azeem | dpkg -l libc6, even |
| 07:14.29 | dpkg | No packages found matching libc6, even |
| 07:14.32 | valdyn | SilentBob: with sudo or sux, NOT with su |
| 07:14.34 | SilentBob | spdf: Yea fglrx module loaded fine. |
| 07:14.46 | Guerin | maybe you upgraded everything but the kernel |
| 07:14.58 | SilentBob | fglrx 244512 7 |
| 07:14.59 | SilentBob | agpgart 33096 2 fglrx,intel_agp |
| 07:15.06 | SilentBob | valdyn: That is what lsmod gives me. |
| 07:15.24 | valdyn | SilentBob: looks fine, now try the other thing.. |
| 07:15.36 | eXa_bOy | debian:~# dpkt -l libc6 |
| 07:15.36 | eXa_bOy | -su: dpkt: command not found |
| 07:15.43 | SilentBob | why? |
| 07:15.46 | azeem | eXa_bOy: dpkg, as I quickly corrected |
| 07:15.51 | SilentBob | My display is with a regular user..not root |
| 07:15.58 | SilentBob | Error: unable to open display (null) |
| 07:16.10 | eXa_bOy | oooh im sorry im just working my way down :( |
| 07:16.12 | valdyn | SilentBob: use sudo or sux, not su |
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| 07:16.35 | eXa_bOy | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 07:16.52 | azeem | eXa_bOy: that is sarge |
| 07:17.00 | eXa_bOy | Guerin : about 20 results come up from that |
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| 07:17.11 | azeem | maybe I misunderstood your problem |
| 07:17.29 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: are you sure there's no kernel-image-2.6-2-386 ? |
| 07:17.31 | some_dude | who wants to tell me about java |
| 07:17.33 | some_dude | !java |
| 07:17.33 | dpkg | java is, like, Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 07:17.58 | widrone | !tell some_dude about install java |
| 07:18.25 | eXa_bOy | no, but thre is kernel-image-2.6-386 |
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| 07:18.44 | eXa_bOy | and a kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 07:18.52 | SilentBob | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/406197 |
| 07:19.04 | encompass | Kind of way off topic but does pc133 sodimms work in pc100 slots... does it down clock itself? |
| 07:19.15 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: bah, my mistake |
| 07:19.17 | Guerin | sorry |
| 07:19.19 | encompass | both sodimm notebook memory |
| 07:19.30 | Guerin | encompass: sometimes |
| 07:19.39 | eXa_bOy | should i install that one Guerin? ----> kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 07:19.43 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: yes |
| 07:19.56 | eXa_bOy | cool |
| 07:20.15 | encompass | sometimes? |
| 07:20.29 | encompass | so should I buy only pc100 then? |
| 07:21.02 | Guerin | encompass: if your mobo is meant to work with pc100, buy pc100 |
| 07:21.42 | Gnea | encompass: usually, yes, they'll downclock, but you should stick with the same brands together |
| 07:21.55 | encompass | ok |
| 07:21.56 | encompass | cool |
| 07:21.57 | encompass | thanks |
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| 07:22.11 | Gnea | also not necessarily good to mix-n-match |
| 07:22.29 | valdyn | SilentBob: so things work fine as root, meaning you miss something in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 07:22.32 | Gnea | so if you wanna downclock, make it all pc133, not a pc133, pc100... |
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| 07:22.56 | SilentBob | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/406190 |
| 07:22.59 | SilentBob | That is my xorg.conf |
| 07:23.08 | valdyn | SilentBob: namely: Section "DRI" \ |
| 07:23.21 | eXa_bOy | does Putty work ok with kde and a mouse? |
| 07:23.32 | valdyn | SilentBob: Section "DRI" \ Mode 0666 \ EndSection |
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| 07:23.54 | SilentBob | I have that. |
| 07:24.25 | SilentBob | valdyn: That's exactly what my xorg.conf file shows. |
| 07:24.42 | eXa_bOy | its telling me to play with my lilo.conf.. do i just ignore? |
| 07:25.05 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: no. follow the instructions. |
| 07:25.20 | eXa_bOy | bah... damn this nerdy shite. |
| 07:25.33 | Gnea | this nerdy shite owns you. |
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| 07:27.42 | eXa_bOy | ok added initrd=/initrd.img... where it needed to go.. jesus, it could have done it for me... |
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| 07:28.03 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: if you want automatica, use grub |
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| 07:28.17 | eXa_bOy | do you get a choice? |
| 07:28.24 | spdf | Of course |
| 07:28.31 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: woody installed lilo by default |
| 07:28.35 | azeem | spdf: maybe not if you upgrade from woody |
| 07:28.36 | Guerin | eXa_bOy: it's trivial to change |
| 07:28.41 | valdyn | SilentBob: hmm, i'd have though you did not need to be member of the video group to have your X use /dev/agpgart, but anyway, 'adduser <name> video', then try again |
| 07:28.44 | eXa_bOy | ok ill do that later :) |
| 07:28.44 | spdf | azeem, Sure, but the choice is still there... |
| 07:29.13 | azeem | spdf: you have a choice, but Debian doesn't present you the choice on upgrades |
| 07:29.33 | azeem | so it's pretty hard to discover if you are new to GNU/Linux |
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| 07:29.55 | SilentBob | root@debian:~# adduser silentbob video |
| 07:29.55 | SilentBob | The user `silentbob' is already a member of `video'. |
| 07:29.56 | iss | hi |
| 07:29.57 | SilentBob | valdyn |
| 07:30.13 | valdyn | SilentBob: restarted X after you made those changes? |
| 07:30.19 | Guerin | grr, back to physio |
| 07:30.19 | iss | how can i tell apt-get to install x-window-system of xfree86 instead of x.org? |
| 07:30.30 | Guerin | iss: what branch of debian are you using? |
| 07:30.34 | iss | Guerin: testing |
| 07:30.39 | iss | on sparc64 |
| 07:30.49 | Guerin | iss: is xfree even in testing? |
| 07:31.19 | iss | I think in testing, there's only x.org |
| 07:31.30 | iss | But, apt-cache show x-window-system shows both. |
| 07:31.31 | Gnea | iss: xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:31.32 | azeem | iss: what's wrong with xorg? |
| 07:31.42 | azeem | Gnea: that's not in testing |
| 07:31.43 | iss | Gnea: I want the whole x-window-system. :) |
| 07:31.50 | iss | azeem: does not work. |
| 07:31.52 | Gnea | okay |
| 07:31.59 | iss | There are some problems with the sun-keyboard. |
| 07:31.59 | Gnea | azeem: oh |
| 07:32.06 | Gnea | iss: maybe there's a backport |
| 07:32.10 | azeem | iss: so you could try your luck with snapshot.debian.net |
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| 07:32.19 | tomfeld | Hi, does anybody know how one can convert pdffiles to black and white? I have no color on my printer... |
| 07:32.20 | valdyn | iss: apt-cache show shows all versions available from your sources... |
| 07:32.28 | Guerin | iss: install x-window-system, then replace xserver-xorg with xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:32.29 | azeem | or, preferably, get xorg fixed |
| 07:32.58 | SilentBob | valdyn: yes of course |
| 07:33.03 | Guerin | iss: you might need to do a couple other packages as well, when I last did this there were no conflicts |
| 07:33.04 | iss | Guerin: When I install x-window-system and then install xserver-xfree86, apt removes the xorg window-system. |
| 07:33.19 | Coweater | of course |
| 07:33.23 | Guerin | iss: that's ok - x-window-system is just a metapackage which depends on a bunch of other things |
| 07:33.35 | iss | so, i'll try... |
| 07:33.53 | Coweater | you shouldn't be having any trouble with xorg and sun keymaps, you're running 2.4? |
| 07:33.55 | Guerin | iss: you need an x server, some libs, xserver-common and some clients |
| 07:34.05 | Coweater | (2.4 kernel) |
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| 07:34.42 | Guerin | anyway, really off to physio now |
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| 07:37.28 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 07:37.39 | nullvoid | how can I ping using mac address? |
| 07:38.13 | Coweater | you can't |
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| 07:38.38 | Coweater | there's no utility to do anything like it on that layer |
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| 07:39.15 | Sp4rKy_ | hi |
| 07:39.19 | iss | Guerin: it works just fine now, thx for help. |
| 07:39.29 | Sp4rKy_ | anyone use djplay please ? |
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| 07:40.25 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: better state your problem/question, more people might be able to help oyu |
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| 07:40.42 | eXa_bOy | Guerin : installation complete |
| 07:40.51 | mindmime | debain support quad cpu's ? |
| 07:41.15 | azeem | mindmime: it's mostly a kernel thing, no? |
| 07:41.18 | pentium451 | no pre-compiled |
| 07:41.23 | mindmime | ah ok |
| 07:41.31 | pentium451 | but it will boot, and you can config |
| 07:41.36 | Coweater | the smp kernel is only compiled for 2? |
| 07:41.43 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem ok : in fact , i can't compile it, whereas i've installed all what is required |
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| 07:42.25 | Sp4rKy_ | and when i try to install it with rpm and alien , i have "djplay: symbol lookup error: djplay: undefined symbol: _ZN13QWindowsStyleC1Ev |
| 07:42.25 | Sp4rKy_ | " when i try to run it |
| 07:42.25 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: see, if you put the error message up on a pastebin, more people will be able to help, even if they don't run it |
| 07:42.42 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem , i'm posting it :) |
| 07:43.06 | Sp4rKy_ | what's the pastebin for debian ? |
| 07:43.28 | eXa_bOy | i just use www.pastebin.com |
| 07:45.14 | eXa_bOy | xf86OpenSerial: cannot find my mouse |
| 07:45.44 | eXa_bOy | how can i help it |
| 07:47.39 | eXa_bOy | its just a ps2 mouse... |
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| 07:49.34 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem : http://pastebin.com/406211 |
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| 07:50.03 | [GABRI] | any people hace freeradius and chillispot? |
| 07:50.07 | eXa_bOy | !tell me about grub |
| 07:50.12 | Sp4rKy_ | eXa_boy, have you try dpkg-reconfiure xserver-xorg ? |
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| 07:50.32 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem : http://pastebin.com/406211 |
| 07:50.38 | eXa_bOy | no but i will now |
| 07:51.53 | eXa_bOy | er reconfigure isnt an option |
| 07:52.26 | Sp4rKy_ | dpkg-reconfigure not dpkg -reconfigure :/ |
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| 07:53.01 | [GABRI] | any people hace freeradius and chillispot? |
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| 07:53.37 | Sp4rKy_ | and know, anyone could help me ? |
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| 07:55.30 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: sorry, was reading some flamewars |
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| 07:55.40 | Sp4rKy_ | :) |
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| 07:55.58 | eXa_bOy | i tried reconfigure x-window-system but it didnt do much |
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| 07:56.15 | Sp4rKy_ | and xserver-xorg ? |
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| 07:56.28 | eXa_bOy | i dont have it |
| 07:56.52 | dimir | xserver-xfree86? |
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| 07:57.14 | eXa_bOy | ive only installed x-window-system and kde... un less they are dependancies then i hacent installed them |
| 07:57.15 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: so you try to compile djplay, which does not exist in Debian, right? |
| 07:57.33 | Sp4rKy_ | yes |
| 07:57.43 | azeem | do you have libqt3-mt-dev installed? |
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| 07:58.08 | Sp4rKy_ | yes i've all library required |
| 07:58.21 | Sp4rKy_ | libraries sorry |
| 07:58.40 | azeem | what about libqt3-compat-headers? |
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| 07:59.06 | Sp4rKy_ | i've it too |
| 07:59.18 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: to make this more scientific, look at the first error message you get |
| 07:59.28 | azeem | ./djplay.h:6:21: erreur: qdialog.h : Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 07:59.50 | Sp4rKy_ | ok , but where could i find it |
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| 08:00.27 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: check the last search box on http://packages.debian.org |
| 08:00.37 | azeem | "packages that contain files named like this" |
| 08:00.41 | eXa_bOy | ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-1.91.tar.gz does that look like the latest? |
| 08:00.45 | Sp4rKy_ | ok thx |
| 08:00.58 | azeem | eXa_bOy: I think there's 1.92 out since a week, but I might be confused |
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| 08:02.16 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem , what's check box ? |
| 08:02.20 | eXa_bOy | configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH : how do i install C? |
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| 08:03.18 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: sorry, I do not understand |
| 08:03.29 | azeem | eXa_bOy: apt-get install build-essential |
| 08:03.38 | eXa_bOy | ta |
| 08:03.51 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem, sorry , search box not check box |
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| 08:04.23 | azeem | the 'Search the contents of packages' one |
| 08:04.28 | Sp4rKy_ | ok |
| 08:04.32 | Sp4rKy_ | i'll search |
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| 08:05.17 | Sp4rKy_ | it 's in libqt3-header |
| 08:05.43 | Sp4rKy_ | and i've it |
| 08:07.19 | eXa_bOy | configure: error: LZO library version 1.02 or later is required |
| 08:07.24 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem , no idea ? |
| 08:07.26 | eXa_bOy | wtf is this? |
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| 08:08.30 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: well, I'm not into Qt compiling much |
| 08:08.43 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: maybe it's about $QTDIR, did you set that manually? |
| 08:08.48 | Sp4rKy_ | yes |
| 08:08.58 | Sp4rKy_ | is set to /usr/include/qt3 |
| 08:09.02 | azeem | checking whether QTDIR environment variable is set... /usr/lib/qt3 |
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| 08:10.07 | [GABRI | any people can help me with chillispot and freeradius? |
| 08:10.27 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem :/ I'd just set it to /usr/include/qt3 |
| 08:10.53 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: I suspect it gets evaluated at configure time |
| 08:11.09 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: and I think you don't need to munge it on Debian, so I suggest to unset it, and rerun configure |
| 08:11.10 | Sp4rKy_ | "checking whether QTDIR environment variable is set... /usr/include/qt3 |
| 08:11.10 | Sp4rKy_ | " |
| 08:11.24 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: it might not find the libraries now, though... |
| 08:11.31 | azeem | but as I said, I'm not into compiling Qt apps much |
| 08:11.32 | Sp4rKy_ | but make it's the same |
| 08:12.29 | Sp4rKy_ | azeem, ok , so i'll try to find solution |
| 08:12.33 | azeem | so you have /usr/include/qt3/qdialog.h ? Make sure it's not zero-byte or something |
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| 08:13.14 | Ryugi | hello |
| 08:13.14 | azeem | Sp4rKy_: also, check the gcc command-line for the -I statements |
| 08:13.22 | azeem | ++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -include djplay.h -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/local/include |
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| 08:13.28 | robin_sz | maybe im stoopid, but how do you find documentation on a package you have just installed. par example, request-tracker3.4 ... man request-tracker3.4 returns nothing .. so where do I look? |
| 08:13.32 | Sp4rKy_ | ok. I have to quit |
| 08:13.34 | azeem | those -I/usr/lib/qt3/include look bogus |
| 08:13.36 | Sp4rKy_ | thx a lot |
| 08:13.38 | Ryugi | what make debian different than he other linux distros |
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| 08:13.56 | [GABRI | any people can help me with chillispot and freeradius? |
| 08:14.00 | SilentBob | !start a distro war |
| 08:14.00 | dpkg | Progeny 0wnz! |
| 08:14.05 | azeem | !why debian |
| 08:14.05 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 08:14.06 | nullvoid | I can't get this working, please advice me to fix this: awk '{ print $6 }' tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep lame |
| 08:14.13 | sparr | i need a program that will parse a group of C(++) source files and tell me which file a given type is declared/defined in. help? |
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| 08:15.14 | robin_sz | sparr, you need and IDE ... try kdevelop |
| 08:16.13 | jhaig | Is there a howto explaining how to create my own Debian mirror with a custom distribution? I want to use a system that is basically Sarge, but with certain packages manually imported from Etch. |
| 08:16.40 | azeem | jhaig: imported or backported? |
| 08:17.34 | jhaig | azeem: I'm thinking of essentially doing what Testing does, but manually and not for the whole system - ie, using certain packages, and also upgrading the necessary dependencies. |
| 08:17.44 | jhaig | ... rather than re-compiling them myself. |
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| 08:18.30 | azeem | well you can just put the .debs in a directory and run touch override; dpkg-scanpackages . override | gzip -nc > Packages.gz |
| 08:18.34 | oatis | hi |
| 08:18.36 | jhaig | but maybe this isn't a sensible approach. |
| 08:18.46 | azeem | and then export it via http or just use a deb file:/// URI |
| 08:18.50 | oatis | what version do I download for an amd 64? ia64? |
| 08:18.57 | azeem | oatis: amd64 |
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| 08:19.04 | azeem | oatis: see www.debian.org/ports/amd64 |
| 08:19.05 | jhaig | as simple as that? |
| 08:19.16 | azeem | jhaig: well, from the technical POV |
| 08:19.25 | oatis | is there not a net install for amd64? |
| 08:19.27 | azeem | jhaig: you'll need to sort out the packaging stuff |
| 08:19.35 | azeem | oatis: did you read the link I mentioned? |
| 08:19.48 | oatis | azeem, looking now..... |
| 08:19.59 | jhaig | azeem: You mean working out dependencies? Yes, I know that will be an issue. |
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| 08:21.02 | tarzeau | how can i generate sender_canonical_map.db |
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| 08:21.48 | mynullvoid | sorry I was discon just now |
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| 08:22.32 | mynullvoid | again how can I fix my code: awk '{ print $6 }' tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep lame |
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| 08:24.40 | jhaig | azeem: I do actually want to create a mirror, rather than having deb files locally, as I want to use it for a number of machines. |
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| 08:25.32 | Coweater | mynullvoid: what are you trying to look for? |
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| 08:25.56 | BriajWrk | hi all |
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| 08:26.33 | BriajWrk | i have a sis video card and the xorg process hangs my pc |
| 08:27.46 | BriajWrk | in the log i saw a warning because /dev/apm_bios doesn't exist... but i resolved it so: MAKEDEV /dev/apm |
| 08:28.08 | Coweater | mynullvoid: first off, the single quotes go inside the curly brackets, and if you're wanting to perform the awk on the output from tail, you'll have to pipe the tail into it (tail ...| awk ...|grep lame) |
| 08:28.15 | asdssad | any people have freeradius or chillispot? |
| 08:28.19 | BriajWrk | now there is no more warnings... but the xorg process has the 99% of cpu |
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| 08:28.33 | BriajWrk | does anyone have any idea? |
| 08:28.54 | Ryugi | what CDs do I need to get debian installed with kde .do I need all 11 disks |
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| 08:29.27 | BriajWrk | I use etch release |
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| 08:29.49 | Coweater | Ryugi: if you do a netinstall you only need one cd, otherwise i'd have to check the contents, i imagine they're somewhat organized by popularity though |
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| 08:30.34 | Ryugi | ok |
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| 08:31.16 | azeem | jhaig: you could export the directory via http |
| 08:31.20 | Ryugi | so a command like 'apt-get install kde' will give me the whole kde desktop enviroment |
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| 08:31.49 | xtf | Hi. I'm trying to dist-upgrade stable to testing but I'm stuck on udev. udev fails to install because it requires 2.6.12 to run. But I can't properly install 2.6.12 because apt-get tries to install udev in the same run. How can I solve that? |
| 08:32.00 | azeem | jhaig: the deb line is then something like 'deb http://foo.org/path/to/bar/ ./' |
| 08:32.08 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: depends upon what you are going to use in KDE |
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| 08:33.46 | Ryugi | what you are saying is that i have to download apt-get all the components of kde separately |
| 08:35.19 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: Wait I need to explain bit more clearly. |
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| 08:38.22 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: what is the current status of your installation. |
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| 08:40.02 | illidian | what is the syntax for opengl? |
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| 08:41.30 | Ryugi | thandavarayan:i haven't installed debian as yet |
| 08:41.48 | illidian | what is the syntax for opengl? |
| 08:42.01 | azeem | Ryugi: the first CD should contain KDE |
| 08:42.12 | azeem | illidian: your question is unspecific |
| 08:42.23 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: okay, would you like to install from CDs or from the net. |
| 08:42.25 | azeem | illidian: what do you want to achieve? |
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| 08:43.09 | Ryugi | thandavarayan:I have don't have much bandwidth to download 2 DVDs so guss i will use the internet |
| 08:43.45 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: fine, net-install is very small image comes around 140 MB... |
| 08:43.59 | AbyssGer | lo on my box i switched the mainboard and all works afterwards except the 8139too interface! Anyone can help me out how to make a new hardware detection without installing the box new? |
| 08:44.11 | illidian | azeem: i want to run a program using opengl. |
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| 08:44.33 | illidian | azeem: what would be the syntax for that? |
| 08:44.42 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: it does till, you can boot the machine and work on command line. |
| 08:44.51 | Ryugi | ok |
| 08:45.05 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: after then you can configure apt-get and choose the nearest server. |
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| 08:45.16 | Ryugi | ok |
| 08:45.39 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: then you can pull what packages you want. |
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| 08:46.22 | Ryugi | what version of kde is available for debian |
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| 08:46.46 | AbyssGer | nobody knows? |
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| 08:47.44 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: In stable I think it is 3.3.2 |
| 08:47.53 | Tauras | I'm using kde 3.4.2 on debian |
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| 08:47.59 | aries | hi |
| 08:47.59 | azeem | illidian: you run the program, provided it is properly installed |
| 08:48.19 | aries | i try to install debian sarge to an oldworld umax pulsar (s900) mac clone |
| 08:48.48 | azeem | aries: the experts are probably in #debian-powerpc or #debian-boot |
| 08:48.57 | aries | azeem |
| 08:49.04 | aries | azeem: thanks |
| 08:49.15 | azeem | aries: it's a powerpc, right? |
| 08:49.17 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: once you are very much acquainted with those, then you can build latest releases of kde from source. |
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| 08:49.24 | aries | azeem: right |
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| 08:49.38 | amorphix | hi guys, what does "Virtual Private Network (VPN) pass-through support " mean if you see this on a router spec |
| 08:49.38 | aries | azeem: the kernel knows about ide disks, but bootstrab dont |
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| 08:50.02 | aries | azeem: no hard disk drives could be found... but i successfully partitioned them with fdisk |
| 08:50.05 | amorphix | hi streunder |
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| 08:50.17 | amorphix | do most routers use NAT forwarding for firewall? |
| 08:50.29 | azeem | aries: yeah, sorry, can't help you with that |
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| 08:50.43 | aries | azeem: thanks for the info :) |
| 08:50.44 | aries | bye |
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| 08:50.46 | Ryugi | ok |
| 08:50.51 | thandavarayan | Ryugi: if you are paying too much for internet, you can download dvd images by using jigdo. |
| 08:51.10 | illidian | azeem: i tried to run Roseonline, but it was very slow. my PC and internet connection is fast enough for the game. but it was still slow. they said using opengl would make it faster. is that true? |
| 08:51.13 | asdssad | any people have freeradius or chillispot? |
| 08:51.21 | amorphix | is a router generally going to be a bit slower than using a Linux dhcp client/firewall? |
| 08:51.30 | azeem | illidian: you mean "hardware accelerated opengl" |
| 08:51.49 | sep | amorphix, just means it dosnt mess with the ipsec packets |
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| 08:52.31 | azeem | illidian: run 'glxinfo | grep direct', if that says indirect, you are not using hardware accelerated OpenGL |
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| 08:53.01 | illidian | azeem: ok... ill try it =) |
| 08:53.23 | amorphix | sep: so you can have connections coming thru from actual users IP's rather than NAT rewritten requests? |
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| 08:54.18 | thandavarayan | azeem: How to turn the hardware acceleration ON |
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| 08:54.54 | azeem | thandavarayan: depends on your graphics card |
| 08:54.56 | amorphix | sep: my router doesnt support VPN and it uses NAT for the firewall, so every request gets rewritten by NAT and comes from the router |
| 08:55.04 | azeem | thandavarayan: and I'm no expert on that |
| 08:55.11 | thandavarayan | azeem: okay |
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| 08:55.50 | thandavarayan | azeem: Do you anything about direct and indirect rendring. |
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| 08:56.31 | sep | amorphix, no. it just means it dosnt mess with protocol 86.. ?? 68 ? whatever it was. it will still get rewritten. and you cant use ip based identification for clients behind nat, you must use key based and openvpn is easier unless you need to interop with exsisting setup |
| 08:56.45 | Guerin | thandavarayan: what video card? |
| 08:56.55 | azeem | thandavarayan: well, indirect rendering means: You use the Mesa software renderer (and thus your CPU), not your graphic card's 3D chip for 3D |
| 08:56.57 | PadrePio | can I ask you a question? |
| 08:57.08 | Guerin | PadrePio: you just did. |
| 08:57.47 | thandavarayan | azeem: okay |
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| 08:57.52 | PadrePio | well what is the problem with SIOCADDRT net unreachable? |
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| 08:58.23 | streuner | PadrePio: is the module loaded for your NIC? |
| 08:58.25 | Guerin | PadrePio: it means you need to fix your network settings |
| 08:58.39 | redcliffe | hi - anyone know any programs that will play dvd-a or sacd on debian? |
| 08:58.58 | AbyssGer | wwhat means -> SIOCSIFFLAGS : Ressource temporarily unaviable ? |
| 08:59.01 | Guerin | wth is dvd-a or sacd? |
| 08:59.05 | PadrePio | ok lemme explain i have to route packets between 2 cards to make my pc work as a router |
| 08:59.05 | redcliffe | i've got a 24-bit 196hkz sound card, it'd be nice to be able to get the benefits |
| 08:59.31 | redcliffe | Guerin: new DVD audio formats - it's much much better than CD quality ever was |
| 08:59.38 | redcliffe | probably as good as vinyl |
| 08:59.42 | Guerin | redcliffe: hah .. right. |
| 08:59.48 | PadrePio | when I've done all the setting and try to add the route that gw through the ISPside card it just gives me that |
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| 08:59.54 | Guerin | with free extra bonus drm as well |
| 09:00.17 | streuner | PadrePio: well, if you want use debian as gateway just use ipmasq |
| 09:00.22 | streuner | !info ipmasq |
| 09:00.29 | dpkg | ipmasq: (securely initializes IP Masquerade forwarding/firewalling), section net, is extra. Version: 4.0.4 (sid), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 592 kB |
| 09:00.30 | redcliffe | Guerin: DRM is generally all software anyway, but as far as i know there is no DRM on sacd or dvd-a |
| 09:00.41 | Guerin | requires $10,000 worth of audio output technology set up by a professional sound engineer and a living room designed by an acoustics genius to notice a difference |
| 09:00.42 | PadrePio | well I'm using iptables |
| 09:00.59 | streuner | PadrePio: ipmasq isn't care |
| 09:01.03 | redcliffe | Guerin: well i can easily tell the difference between dvd-a and cd for the same tracks |
| 09:01.03 | Guerin | PadrePio: SIOCS* is pre-iptables |
| 09:01.11 | Guerin | redcliffe: sure you can. |
| 09:01.28 | PadrePio | I don't understand |
| 09:01.37 | redcliffe | dvd-a and sacd's are usually produced better than cd's these days - most cd's recently aren't even as good as cd can be |
| 09:01.40 | streuner | PadrePio: scroll up what Guerin said |
| 09:01.51 | streuner | PadrePio: (network settings) |
| 09:02.14 | redcliffe | but in any case i'd just like to find some software whereby i can play them on linux |
| 09:02.32 | PadrePio | well but i'm quite sure everything is allright with my config |
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| 09:02.49 | Guerin | redcliffe: i've never even heard of them, but the concept stinks of propietariness pitched at people with money to burn. |
| 09:03.03 | Guerin | just like hd-dvd and blu-ray, currently |
| 09:03.19 | redcliffe | Guerin: dvd-a is iirc an open standard, sacd iirc is proprietary |
| 09:03.20 | Guerin | PadrePio: can you ping a known ip address? |
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| 09:03.42 | redcliffe | sacd is backwards compatible with standard cd though |
| 09:03.47 | redcliffe | but only at cd quality |
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| 09:03.55 | riemensc | hi |
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| 09:04.12 | riemensc | i´ve got a problem |
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| 09:04.21 | riemensc | i have new install a debian sarge |
| 09:04.26 | mynullvoid | huh |
| 09:04.33 | PadrePio | I can ping my internal lan with the internalcard and I can ping the internet with the outsidecard but I cannot ping the internallan with the outsidecard and viceversa |
| 09:04.35 | sceptiQ | hello, where is located "convert" of imagemagick? |
| 09:04.38 | riemensc | and my problem is gcc say by every time error 1 |
| 09:04.42 | PadrePio | since there is no route |
| 09:04.50 | riemensc | can everybudy help me? |
| 09:04.55 | streuner | riemensc: use a whole sentence |
| 09:04.58 | Guerin | PadrePio: no shit. |
| 09:04.59 | streuner | !ask |
| 09:04.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 09:05.28 | azeem | riemensc: there's also #debian.de, if you are german |
| 09:05.44 | PadrePio | what do you mean with no shit? |
| 09:05.53 | streuner | riemensc: what command did you use? |
| 09:05.56 | Guerin | azeem: but ... but ... #debian.de are even meaner than we are! |
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| 09:06.10 | Guerin | azeem: how can you send innocent newbies in there? |
| 09:06.36 | Guerin | PadrePio: no route == traffic not crossing network boundaries. |
| 09:06.41 | ntoll | lambs to the slaughter.... :-P |
| 09:06.58 | PadrePio | well, I fucking know that |
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| 09:07.15 | PadrePio | this is infact my problem |
| 09:07.26 | PadrePio | I need a route and can't add it |
| 09:07.27 | Guerin | PadrePio: so why is the fact that you can't ping from one network to another without a route in place so complicated? |
| 09:07.33 | azeem | Guerin: well, I haven't checked for a few years now :) |
| 09:07.44 | PadrePio | I need a route and can't add it |
| 09:07.54 | Guerin | PadrePio: what's stopping you? |
| 09:08.06 | PadrePio | SIOCADDRT net unreachable |
| 09:08.18 | Guerin | PadrePio: when you do what? |
| 09:09.35 | PadrePio | add a route like this: route add -net x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x gw (my ispsidecard ip) dev ethx |
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| 09:10.03 | streuner | that's NOT the debian way |
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| 09:11.13 | psycodad | how would I set my editor for root to vi instead of nano ? |
| 09:11.22 | streuner | Why not just use interfaces to set up network settings? |
| 09:12.02 | PadrePio | you mean editing /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 09:12.12 | streuner | yes |
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| 09:12.15 | Tauras | PadrePio: ifconfig |
| 09:12.28 | PadrePio | ifconfig what |
| 09:12.42 | Tauras | you edit /etc/network/interfaces after you know proper options |
| 09:12.54 | Tauras | what interfaces do you have? |
| 09:12.59 | PadrePio | look I've already done this |
| 09:13.11 | PadrePio | I have ips on both ifaces |
| 09:13.20 | Guerin | regardless of whether it's the correct way, route should work |
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| 09:13.31 | cahoot | psycodad: look at /etc/alternatives/editor |
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| 09:13.47 | Guerin | and it's a dammn site easier to test with route than it is to bring your network up and down all the time |
| 09:13.47 | PadrePio | and I have netmasks and all stuff |
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| 09:14.07 | cahoot | psycodad: err - only for root |
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| 09:14.50 | psycodad | cahoot: thx, thats ok, i want only for root another editor |
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| 09:15.48 | cahoot | psycodad: changing what I suggested will be gloabl |
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| 09:16.21 | PadrePio | Kernel IP routing table |
| 09:16.21 | PadrePio | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 09:16.21 | PadrePio | 1.11.47.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 09:16.21 | PadrePio | 192.168.206.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth2 |
| 09:16.21 | PadrePio | default 1.11.47.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 09:16.33 | Guerin | goddamn eejits |
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| 09:16.49 | psycodad | cahoot: though shall it be ;-) I don't care if anybody else knows vi, I am root on this box *gg* |
| 09:16.51 | Guerin | !paste PadrePio |
| 09:16.51 | dpkg | PadrePio: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 09:17.05 | PadrePio | ok sorry |
| 09:17.06 | cahoot | psycodad: export EDITOR=... is another way |
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| 09:17.27 | PadrePio | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 09:17.27 | PadrePio | 1.11.47.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 09:17.27 | PadrePio | 192.168.206.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth2 |
| 09:17.27 | PadrePio | default 1.11.47.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 09:17.36 | Guerin | godDAMN |
| 09:17.40 | Tauras | PadrePio: and what is your route add command? |
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| 09:18.05 | Tauras | PadrePio: and what is your route add command? |
| 09:18.07 | Guerin | PadrePio: why are you so fucking stupid? |
| 09:18.12 | psycodad | cahoot: ah, that was what I was looking for in the first place, but set didn't show any EDITOR set so i thought it must be swhere else... |
| 09:18.17 | Guerin | PadrePio: DO NOT PASTE IN THIS CHANNEL |
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| 09:18.44 | Tauras | you can paste 2-3 lines |
| 09:18.48 | Guerin | no |
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| 09:18.53 | Guerin | don't paste at all |
| 09:18.57 | Guerin | put it on a web site |
| 09:19.17 | PadrePio | http://channels.debian.net/paste/961 here it is |
| 09:19.18 | Tauras | then dont write at all ;-) |
| 09:19.30 | PadrePio | sorry again for messing |
| 09:20.16 | Tauras | PadrePio: and what is your route add command? |
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| 09:21.03 | PadrePio | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.25 | PadrePio | so what do you say? |
| 09:22.38 | Tauras | your gw is on eth0 and in your route add you want to force it for eth2 |
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| 09:23.24 | Tauras | according to your route table it is already correct |
| 09:24.07 | PadrePio | I want to have all my internal lan traffic to be routed to the ispcard since it is the only one capable of going to the internet |
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| 09:25.16 | Tauras | it is done by default gw |
| 09:25.55 | PadrePio | so you say that my config is already allright? |
| 09:26.06 | Tauras | all requests to internet goes to 1.11.47.1 via eth0 |
| 09:26.18 | Tauras | yes |
| 09:26.41 | Tauras | other question if you receive proper response |
| 09:26.44 | Guerin | he wants to route packets out of eth0 back into eth2 |
| 09:26.51 | Guerin | i think |
| 09:27.02 | Tauras | yes, you need proper NAT |
| 09:27.04 | PadrePio | lemme explaing a bit more |
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| 09:27.35 | PadrePio | I have a wifi router, and I need to make my pc to act as a router |
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| 09:28.08 | PadrePio | I need to be on the lan and to make my pc route packets through the router in the air |
| 09:28.29 | PadrePio | and for now i cannot do this |
| 09:28.49 | PadrePio | because I cannot ping google from the eth2 |
| 09:29.32 | PadrePio | is it all clear? |
| 09:29.54 | Tauras | eth2 for you is only incoming for all and outgoing only for net 192.168.206.0 |
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| 09:30.47 | Tauras | what is this gw: 1.11.47.1 |
| 09:30.54 | PadrePio | ??? |
| 09:30.59 | bibe | PadrePio : you have to specify that the default gateway for non-local ip addresses is on the eth2 net |
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| 09:31.51 | PadrePio | yes but what is my problem? |
| 09:32.00 | PadrePio | what am I missing |
| 09:32.15 | Tauras | wrong default gw? missing NAT? |
| 09:32.25 | bibe | PadrePio : I probably missed the beginning of your conversation, but what's the output of '/sbin/route -n |grep ^0.0.0.0'? |
| 09:32.49 | Tauras | http://channels.debian.net/paste/961 |
| 09:32.57 | PadrePio | thanks tauras |
| 09:33.20 | Shadur | PadrePio: what do you get when you type 'ip route get 66.249.93.99' ? |
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| 09:34.04 | xtf | Hi. What do I do if udev fails to install because of an old kernel but I still want to continue upgrading the rest of the packages? |
| 09:34.34 | xelam | xtf: have fun with that :( |
| 09:34.37 | PadrePio | what is 66.249.93.99? |
| 09:34.46 | xelam | you'll probably have to install the kernel manually i.e. from source |
| 09:34.49 | Tauras | just some internet IP |
| 09:35.27 | PadrePio | cache mtu 1500 advmss 1460 hoplimit 64 |
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| 09:36.27 | scruffy | plugging in a usb drive should display what device it is attached to (e.g. /dev/sdb) in the logs, correct? (assuming I have the needed kernel mods loaded) |
| 09:36.43 | PadrePio | yes scuffy |
| 09:36.55 | mtnman | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:37.42 | PadrePio | so? |
| 09:37.59 | xtf | xelam: I'm already having so much fun. :) |
| 09:38.02 | scruffy | PadrePio: thanks! |
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| 09:38.06 | Tauras | PadrePio: is 192.168.206.0/24 your lan or wifi router network? |
| 09:38.28 | Tauras | what is the ip of wifi router? |
| 09:38.48 | PadrePio | you got it it is the internal lan |
| 09:39.14 | PadrePio | on wich the wifi router is |
| 09:39.50 | Tauras | then you need to configure default gw to point to wifi router |
| 09:40.04 | PadrePio | why? |
| 09:40.06 | Tauras | it has its own IP |
| 09:40.27 | Tauras | then all packages will go to wifi router |
| 09:40.46 | PadrePio | but I cannot go on internet anymore |
| 09:41.30 | Tauras | ok, then where is your internet connection? via wifi or eth0? |
| 09:41.37 | PadrePio | eth0 |
| 09:41.46 | PadrePio | through 1.11. |
| 09:41.50 | Tauras | ok |
| 09:42.01 | xelam | xtf: good ;) |
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| 09:42.26 | Tauras | so you want others to use your wifi connection to connect to internet via eth0? |
| 09:42.32 | PadrePio | yes |
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| 09:42.38 | Guerin | that's simple nat |
| 09:42.48 | Tauras | your routing is fine |
| 09:42.50 | torc | realtek 8139 is a typical desktop nic, eh? does it mean it has no tcp checksum offloading \ other fancy features? |
| 09:42.50 | Guerin | i thought you wanted it the other way around? |
| 09:43.04 | Tauras | you need to configure source nat |
| 09:43.17 | PadrePio | ?? |
| 09:43.56 | PadrePio | look, I have eth0 on the internet, eth2 on the LAN and connected to the router |
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| 09:44.37 | PadrePio | so I need to go through eth0 from eth2 and I want wifi to go through eth2 and eth0 |
| 09:44.49 | Tauras | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168. 206.0/24 -j SNAT --to-source=1.11.47.X |
| 09:45.04 | xtf | There are multiple 8139 versions. Some do have checksum offloading. |
| 09:45.06 | PadrePio | please explain |
| 09:45.19 | Tauras | 1.11.47.X is IP address of your eth0 |
| 09:46.09 | Tauras | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.56 | PadrePio | gives me this iptables: No chain/target/match by that name |
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| 09:47.12 | PadrePio | sorry my mistake |
| 09:47.34 | PadrePio | no still gives me that |
| 09:47.36 | PadrePio | iptables: No chain/target/match by that name |
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| 09:48.12 | Tauras | write correct IP instead of 1.11.47.X |
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| 09:48.25 | PadrePio | I'm not that stupid |
| 09:48.53 | Tauras | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:49.00 | torc | xtf: is it somehow configurable in linux? |
| 09:49.03 | PadrePio | ok it's gone |
| 09:49.13 | torc | xtf: and btw, do they support vlan trunks? |
| 09:49.39 | PadrePio | but still can't ping the internet with eth2 |
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| 09:51.39 | petemc | how do you ping with a particular interface? |
| 09:51.46 | PadrePio | ping -I |
| 09:51.54 | Tauras | configure other machine on your lan to have IP 192.168.206.X (it is eth2 on your router) |
| 09:51.58 | PadrePio | ping -I ethx |
| 09:52.09 | petemc | no |
| 09:52.11 | Tauras | no |
| 09:52.16 | Tauras | :-) |
| 09:52.29 | PadrePio | how then |
| 09:52.32 | petemc | you dont |
| 09:52.43 | Tauras | internet always goes via eth0 |
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| 09:53.35 | PadrePio | tauras eth2 is on my router |
| 09:54.16 | Tauras | let say you have eth2 192.168.206.1 |
| 09:54.32 | Tauras | and other pc on lan with 192.168.206.2 |
| 09:54.37 | PadrePio | let say i have that as my router |
| 09:54.42 | PadrePio | 1 |
| 09:54.57 | PadrePio | and I can ping it |
| 09:55.05 | PadrePio | so it should go |
| 09:55.07 | PadrePio | right? |
| 09:55.27 | Tauras | you need to ping from second pc |
| 09:55.37 | PadrePio | the internet? |
| 09:55.51 | Tauras | ping on the same pc just shows that you configured your NIC with this IP |
| 09:55.58 | Tauras | no from lan |
| 09:56.01 | Guerin | if I understand this correctly, you could have just done apt-get install ipmasq; |
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| 09:56.53 | Tauras | for me it looks like you want to split you in halves |
| 09:56.59 | PadrePio | ?? |
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| 09:57.43 | Tauras | you have 2 interfaces, internet connection (default gw) is possible with one iface only |
| 09:58.15 | PadrePio | ok |
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| 09:58.24 | Tauras | if you have inet on eth0 then it cannot work on eth2 |
| 09:58.44 | Tauras | even if you have 2 ISP connected |
| 09:58.54 | PadrePio | so how can I do this stuff? |
| 09:59.05 | Tauras | (balancing is not counted here) |
| 09:59.28 | Tauras | you have everithing configured |
| 09:59.33 | kasha | Hi, i have a trouble with smbldap-tools! When i try smbldap-useradd -c "System-user" username - it work perfectly , but if -c " text in windows-cp1251 or KO8-R" it doesn't work ... |
| 10:00.15 | Tauras | all default routes go to eth0, and iptables take care to get responses |
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| 10:00.29 | PadrePio | on the lan pcs I have to set the gw to eth2 right? |
| 10:00.36 | Tauras | yes |
| 10:01.12 | PadrePio | as well as the nameserver |
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| 10:01.16 | Tauras | lanPC -> eth2 router -> router eth0 -> inet |
| 10:01.39 | Tauras | name server is the same |
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| 10:02.32 | PadrePio | ok I tried from my laptop.... I ping eth2 but doesn't resolve at all |
| 10:03.48 | Tauras | dns is of your ISP |
| 10:04.00 | PadrePio | ok |
| 10:04.09 | Tauras | not lan IP unless you have your own DNS |
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| 10:04.56 | carlinos_cc | alguien habla español? |
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| 10:04.57 | carlinos_cc | necesito ayuda |
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| 10:05.46 | carlinos_cc | Spanish??? |
| 10:05.53 | carlinos_cc | help |
| 10:05.59 | PadrePio | not resolving at all |
| 10:06.10 | carlinos_cc | root kanopix ??? |
| 10:06.15 | PadrePio | carlinos io sono italiano possiamo provare |
| 10:06.39 | _SerhaT_ | !es |
| 10:06.39 | carlinos_cc | cual es la contraseña de root en kanoppix? |
| 10:06.40 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 10:06.53 | carlinos_cc | ok |
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| 10:09.20 | Tauras | PadrePio: sorry away, use tcpdump to see how and where packages go |
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| 10:10.08 | Tauras | can you ping dns ip from router? |
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| 10:10.20 | Tauras | then you should be able to ping fom your laptop |
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| 10:10.23 | dli | !hp printer |
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| 10:10.27 | PadrePio | ok thx |
| 10:10.38 | unixrox | hey alll |
| 10:10.38 | unixrox | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.39 | unixrox | i have a buddy now |
| 10:10.45 | unixrox | who just switched to linux |
| 10:10.50 | unixrox | he loves it |
| 10:10.51 | unixrox | wont go back to linxu |
| 10:10.56 | unixrox | but every time we start |
| 10:11.03 | unixrox | totm it says The audio device is busy. Is another application using it?" |
| 10:11.19 | unixrox | is there something that i am missing? |
| 10:11.25 | unixrox | i have been googling it |
| 10:11.25 | scruffy | !tell unixrox about enter |
| 10:11.42 | Tauras | do u use KDE? it is a bit complicated with sound in Linux |
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| 10:12.04 | unixrox | sorry scurffy |
| 10:12.10 | PadrePio | tauras I cannot reach inet from router |
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| 10:12.16 | unixrox | it is in a gnome env |
| 10:12.26 | scruffy | unixrox: no big deal, just saves screen real estate |
| 10:12.40 | unixrox | i understand, my bad |
| 10:12.43 | Tauras | sound systems like arts and esound block audio device |
| 10:13.06 | unixrox | but isnt esd used in gnome? |
| 10:13.09 | unixrox | so how do i use that with totem? |
| 10:13.25 | unixrox | he is using alsa for sound |
| 10:13.32 | Tauras | can u configure totem to use esd? |
| 10:13.38 | unixrox | no |
| 10:13.48 | unixrox | the audio optins have to do with stero |
| 10:13.52 | Tauras | then killall esd :) and run totem |
| 10:13.54 | unixrox | not sound daemons |
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| 10:14.25 | unixrox | so the only way to get that to work is to kill the sound server and then run totem...ust to get totem to work? |
| 10:14.41 | Guerin | esddsp totem; |
| 10:14.51 | unixrox | perhaps i should submit a bug report? |
| 10:14.56 | unixrox | ok |
| 10:14.59 | unixrox | i will loko into that guerin |
| 10:15.00 | Guerin | unixrox: no, it's wokring as designed |
| 10:15.01 | unixrox | thanks |
| 10:15.10 | Guerin | esd is fucking evil for this and other reasons |
| 10:15.18 | unixrox | hahahhahah |
| 10:15.18 | unixrox | oic |
| 10:15.24 | Guerin | as is arts |
| 10:15.39 | unixrox | can i run another sound daemon for this problem? |
| 10:15.43 | Guerin | and all other sound servers which interfere with basic sound API handling |
| 10:16.00 | Guerin | unixrox: running none at all would be my suggestion |
| 10:16.11 | unixrox | oh arts is bad too eh? i use enlightenment for "desktop" and window managr |
| 10:16.21 | unixrox | so i am not up to speed with the gnome/kde eras lateley |
| 10:16.28 | unixrox | ok |
| 10:16.32 | unixrox | os no sound for gnome? |
| 10:16.33 | PadrePio | ok i'm sniffing pings from lan to eth2 |
| 10:16.34 | Guerin | unixrox: if you need software stream mixing, alsa can do that natively with dmix, which doesn't break anything |
| 10:16.43 | unixrox | hoard to convince a new linux guy that |
| 10:16.50 | Guerin | unixrox: why the hell would you want your windowmanager to make noise anyway? |
| 10:16.52 | unixrox | dmix |
| 10:16.53 | unixrox | ok |
| 10:17.10 | unixrox | hey...its not me...its these poor windows newbs |
| 10:17.22 | unixrox | hahahhaha |
| 10:17.44 | Guerin | yup |
| 10:17.44 | nailbiter | unixrox: If you use totem-gstreamer and want it to play through esound, run 'gstreamer-properties' and set the default output sink to 'EsounD'. |
| 10:17.50 | Guerin | that shit has no business beeping at me |
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| 10:17.58 | unixrox | well i reall appreciate our time and input gentlemen. have a wonderfuld ay |
| 10:17.59 | unixrox | ok |
| 10:18.00 | unixrox | thanks man |
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| 10:19.00 | unixrox | you all have a wonderful day |
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| 10:19.23 | unixrox | and for those that contibute to this distro/os....i have many who want to say thanks |
| 10:19.28 | unixrox | you all do a wonderful job! |
| 10:19.43 | jazzi | yes |
| 10:19.46 | unixrox | cya |
| 10:19.58 | unixrox | quit |
| 10:20.00 | unixrox | exit |
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| 10:21.07 | wersh | im getting errors trying to burn a cd in k3b.. http://pastebin.com/406302 |
| 10:21.30 | jazzi | I havn't installed Debian,but now i'm using Ubuntu.It's so good |
| 10:22.07 | Tortel | ubuntu takes 90% of debian out |
| 10:22.40 | Tauras | PadrePio: paste: ifconfig, route -n and iptables -t nat -L -nv |
| 10:23.02 | PadrePio | ok now is going I ping eth0 from LAN |
| 10:23.09 | nailbiter | Tortel: They've done very well at making a great deal of stuff Just Work (tm). ;-) |
| 10:23.14 | BriajWrk | i use a sis video card on etch release and the xorg process get 99% cpu usage... any idea? |
| 10:23.19 | PadrePio | but I'm checking |
| 10:23.21 | PadrePio | wait |
| 10:24.34 | BriajWrk | the only warning i saw on logs was the /dev/apm_bios didn't exist but i resolved it |
| 10:24.40 | scruffy | wersh: have you tried burning as root? That's my only idea. |
| 10:25.09 | wersh | yeahi have |
| 10:25.25 | wersh | i burned an audio CD just fine |
| 10:26.18 | scruffy | westside: you mean the pastebin URL error didn't happen as root? |
| 10:26.43 | scruffy | westside: sorry, meant wersh |
| 10:26.50 | PadrePio | but still cannot ping from router eth0 |
| 10:26.52 | wersh | get that error as root and normal user |
| 10:26.54 | PadrePio | ill post |
| 10:27.59 | AbyssGer | wwhat means -> SIOCSIFFLAGS : Ressource temporarily unaviable ? i change the mainboard and all works except the net mods |
| 10:28.02 | PadrePio | http://channels.debian.net/paste/963. |
| 10:28.04 | AbyssGer | how i can fix that? |
| 10:28.19 | scruffy | wersh: ah, no idea. the error suggests 'generic-mmc-raw' driver, but I'm not too familiar with k3b. :\ |
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| 10:29.41 | loxley | uhumm.. anyone having problems with xmms? after quitting it ends up <defunct> |
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| 10:30.03 | PadrePio | no xmms more mplayer |
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| 10:32.31 | Tauras | PadrePio: iptables -t nat -F |
| 10:33.03 | PadrePio | what's it for? |
| 10:33.06 | Tauras | and try ping |
| 10:33.14 | PadrePio | what? |
| 10:33.37 | Tauras | this is to remove NAT |
| 10:33.52 | Tauras | and see if you have direct connection up |
| 10:34.05 | wersh | scruffy, It's burning, just converted the bin to an iso |
| 10:34.39 | PadrePio | Tauras I pinged the gw of the ISP from laptop no answer |
| 10:34.53 | PadrePio | but I can ping the eth0 card |
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| 10:36.03 | SunDevil | heu |
| 10:36.08 | SunDevil | how do i activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option ? |
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| 10:36.19 | scruffy | wersh: okay, but the error message is 'out there'. No idea what the problem might be other than my first permissions guess. |
| 10:36.34 | wersh | tried as normal user and root.. i dunno |
| 10:36.55 | SunDevil | -o apt::forceloopbreak=true gottit |
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| 10:38.16 | scruffy | wersh: Looks like it probes the drive for capabilities, then fails, but I have no idea. Is there an option in k3b to disable 'probes' of some kind? I think it might be trying to find out how it should interact with your writer, but fails. This is all a WAG. |
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| 10:38.38 | wersh | i'll check.. gotta run for now, thanks for the help. |
| 10:38.51 | Tauras | PadrePio can you ping your isp gw from router? |
| 10:38.55 | scruffy | wersh: sorry I couldn't help more. |
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| 10:39.26 | PadrePio | nope |
| 10:39.44 | Tauras | PadrePio be sure now you have iptables -t nat -L -nv empty |
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| 10:40.07 | amx|werk | hi guys |
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| 10:40.14 | PadrePio | all empty |
| 10:40.17 | Tauras | try to ping other IP in internet |
| 10:40.25 | amx|werk | is dhcpcd the best dhcp client soft for Debian users? |
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| 10:40.43 | Tauras | could you ping isp gw before? |
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| 10:40.57 | PadrePio | cannot ping internet |
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| 10:41.09 | Tauras | usually it is a policy to disable ping |
| 10:41.22 | amx|werk | try to ping a host you know can be pinged |
| 10:41.23 | PadrePio | yes I could ping isp gw when had 1 eth card |
| 10:41.24 | beardy | hmm, calendar says "Oct 26 Debian GNU/Linux 0.93R6 released, 1995" |
| 10:41.33 | amx|werk | and try to ping a domain v an ip, to see if its a DNS problem |
| 10:42.25 | Tauras | open other console/terminal on your router |
| 10:42.27 | amx|werk | hi beardy |
| 10:42.43 | Tauras | as root start: tcproute -i eht0 -n |
| 10:42.49 | scruffy | amx|werk: I use dhcp-client, and I've only set it up once years ago. Been running since. |
| 10:43.00 | Tauras | sorry, tcpdump -i eth0 -n |
| 10:43.14 | beardy | amx|werk: hello |
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| 10:43.19 | amx|werk | scruffy: thats what I ran before I think, before I foolishly decided to replace it with a broadband router yesterday |
| 10:43.35 | amx|werk | I will change back to dhcp-client |
| 10:43.37 | Tauras | then try to ping isp gw, and see if you have output of tcpdump |
| 10:43.49 | dli | !printer |
| 10:43.49 | dpkg | printer is probably a device that allows you to put things from your computer onto paper, envelopes, or whatever. don't forget to check http://www.linuxprinting.org, or a hardcopy output device. easy to set up using foomatic-gui |
| 10:43.59 | PadrePio | ping from where |
| 10:44.07 | dli | !hp printer |
| 10:44.10 | Tauras | from first console/terminal |
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| 10:44.43 | kioto | hi all |
| 10:45.24 | kioto | where i find the /usb device, i need the uri to configure cups |
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| 10:45.57 | PadrePio | yes I see ICMP packets |
| 10:46.15 | dli | kioto, use cups, then, http://127.0.0.1:631 |
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| 10:46.55 | kioto | yes dli, now i must specify the location: /dev/ ?? |
| 10:47.02 | amorous_ | who can tell me what driver I should use to driver hp deskjet 3848,please ? |
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| 10:47.15 | PadrePio | hpoj amorus |
| 10:47.21 | PadrePio | find on google |
| 10:47.30 | PadrePio | you'll find info |
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| 10:49.00 | J_P | hi all |
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| 10:49.28 | amorous_ | PadrePio,hpoj ? how can I¡¡use it? I had install hplip and hpijs-ppd/deskjet 3840 ? |
| 10:49.55 | Tauras | PadrePio: again it shows your routing is fine |
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| 10:50.15 | PadrePio | amorous http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/ and read |
| 10:50.28 | Tauras | it is no response from ISP side |
| 10:50.29 | PadrePio | it's not that difficult and well-explained |
| 10:50.49 | amorous_ | PadrePio thank you ,I'll go to see that |
| 10:51.25 | Tauras | try to ping other ip |
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| 10:53.23 | jhaig | I've installed a machine with Sid (actually, copied a Sarge partition and upgraded). It seems that I cannot install both OpenOffice and ooqstart-gnome (the OO quick start facility for gnome) at the same time, which is odd. Any idea how I might get round this? |
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| 10:53.35 | J_P | people, I have one debian sarge with 3 ethernets, one for localnet, other for internet1 and another for internet2. I like all connections go out via internet 1, and only when conection is for ports 23 25 110 send via internet 2. How I do this ? |
| 10:53.35 | dli | !hp |
| 10:53.35 | dpkg | somebody said hp was at http://www.hp.com/pressrel/jun99/21jun99g.htm, or *the* original brown sauce from 1889. See: http://www.higherdesign.com/brownsauce/hpsauce.htm. Hewlett Packard, maker of calculators and printers and computers and other silicon goodness |
| 10:54.27 | PadrePio | tauras ok I can sniff ICMP packets go to google |
| 10:54.27 | kioto | sorry, dli where i can find the printer device on debian |
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| 10:54.41 | kioto | usually on slackware i use /dev/usb/lp0 |
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| 10:55.16 | dli | kioto, I think cups guides through the selection |
| 10:55.49 | kioto | no, i must insert the path to the right device manually when i want add a new printer |
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| 10:56.45 | dli | kioto, then, use "/dev/usb/lp0" |
| 10:56.50 | Tauras | PadrePio: did u receive any response? |
| 10:56.56 | PadrePio | yes |
| 10:57.07 | PadrePio | 216.239.59.147 > 1.11.47.146 |
| 10:57.15 | Tauras | great |
| 10:57.23 | scruffy | dli: :) looks like http://www.higherdesign.com/brownsauce/hpsauce.htm is no longer what it is assumed to be, unless I'm missing something. |
| 10:57.28 | Tauras | now put on iptables |
| 10:57.30 | ToMMY2k | dli that url is now squatted |
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| 10:57.39 | scruffy | ToMMY2k: :D |
| 10:57.43 | ToMMY2k | :) |
| 10:57.45 | kioto | yes, but into /dev/usb/lp0 i don't see it |
| 10:58.00 | kioto | i don't /usb/ folder too |
| 10:58.18 | PadrePio | Tauras what do you mean? |
| 10:58.24 | amx-werk | scruffy dont you prefer Daddys? |
| 10:58.33 | scruffy | amx-werk: huh? |
| 10:58.39 | amx-werk | (brown sauce) ;-) |
| 10:58.45 | amx-werk | Daddy's v HP |
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| 10:59.03 | scruffy | amx-werk: still lost. right over my head, me thinks. |
| 10:59.07 | Tauras | run again iptables command I gave you before |
| 10:59.07 | amx-werk | haha |
| 10:59.13 | amx-werk | u r not british i take it |
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| 10:59.27 | scruffy | amx-werk: no :( |
| 10:59.30 | amx-werk | HP and Daddy's are the leading brown sauce makes here |
| 10:59.32 | lxIT | Hello everyone |
| 10:59.34 | dli | kioto, try to msg dpkg here :) "/msg dpkg hp printer" |
| 10:59.39 | PadrePio | before when? |
| 10:59.47 | scruffy | amx-werk: ahhh |
| 11:00.01 | amx-werk | HP is not Hewlett Packard ;-) |
| 11:00.15 | PadrePio | do you mean iptables -t nat -L -nv |
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| 11:00.25 | amx-werk | i HATE NAT |
| 11:00.26 | dli | amx-werk, what is "brown sauce"? |
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| 11:01.03 | amx-werk | brown sauce is like a table sauce consisting of many things but mainly vinegar and mustard |
| 11:01.05 | Eclipser | amx-werk, why |
| 11:01.14 | amx-werk | its quite strong |
| 11:01.28 | Tauras | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.206.0/24 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source=1.... |
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| 11:01.37 | amx-werk | Eclipser: it has totally screwed up my network |
| 11:01.41 | dli | amx-werk, oh, I like red sauce, then, "habanero sauce" |
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| 11:02.00 | amx-werk | dli: yeah, a little bit firey |
| 11:02.16 | Tauras | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 11:02.23 | morgajel | anyone know why a fresh debian install would bork MC in konsole, and more importantly, how to fix it? I looked like a tool in front of the Suse guy :/ http://morgajel.com/mc-fugly.png |
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| 11:02.35 | amorous_ | PadrePio hpoj is for officejet ,not for deskjet :( |
| 11:02.48 | amx-werk | morgajel haha |
| 11:02.59 | dli | Tauras, I have a simple situation, I want to provide routing for all 172.16.0.0 from eth1 through eth0, can you show me iptables cmdline? |
| 11:03.00 | noid_ | a workmate just accidentally deleted some files, is there a way to get them back? there has been no further actions and it's an xfs system |
| 11:03.10 | Tauras | try to ping and sniff for how packages going |
| 11:03.14 | amx-werk | thats strange |
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| 11:03.47 | Tauras | routing - does not need iptables |
| 11:03.48 | morgajel | amx-werk: yeah, hard to show debian is "just as good as suse" to a suse zealot when a fresh install pulls that crap. |
| 11:03.51 | dli | Tauras, I tried "ipmasq", but too much for a n00b |
| 11:03.59 | Tauras | gtg |
| 11:03.59 | amx-werk | phew |
| 11:04.01 | scruffy | dli: whew, I love hot foods |
| 11:04.05 | Tauras | away for about 2 h |
| 11:04.34 | amx-werk | I have to setup ipmasq right now |
| 11:04.41 | N0S3 | nnn |
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| 11:04.51 | amx-werk | I'm reverting back to Linux dhcp client I had enough of crappy broadband routers |
| 11:04.53 | dli | scruffy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/habanero |
| 11:05.09 | morgajel | any thoughts? |
| 11:05.09 | lxIT | Is it trusty to install RPM's using Alien? |
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| 11:05.38 | Kataki | noid_: Q: Does the filesystem have an undelete capability? |
| 11:05.39 | amx-werk | morgajel: i dunno thats odd one |
| 11:05.42 | dli | amx-werk, it's not needed for me:) but I would love to have 172.16. LAN to share the public net connections |
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| 11:05.48 | Kataki | noid: A: There is no undelete in XFS. Always keep backups. |
| 11:05.52 | PadrePio | thx alot tauras |
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| 11:06.15 | morgajel | lxIT: I've heard that it isn't, but I've never had experience myself. |
| 11:06.21 | error403 | I'm trying to set up a secure CVS server, and i have pretty much everything done, except for the fact I don't know how to connect on the port i am using (because i am not using 22). Does anyone know how to make an :ext: style CVS connection on a non-standard port? |
| 11:06.22 | scruffy | dli: no veins or seeds, and they're not so bad |
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| 11:06.41 | Guerin | there's no meaningful undelete in any journalling filesystem I know of |
| 11:06.47 | amx-werk | who the heck is doing PRVMSG |
| 11:06.48 | Guerin | journalling works both ways |
| 11:06.50 | kioto | how to check if i have compiled a particular support in the case i forgot any ? |
| 11:07.07 | dli | scruffy, but the sauce isn't really as hot as the chili itself :( |
| 11:07.08 | noid_ | Kataki: yep, i know, i was looking for "third party solutions" |
| 11:07.25 | Kataki | noid_: Time to restore from your backups. |
| 11:07.47 | noid_ | Kataki: *his* backups d-: (of course, there are none) |
| 11:08.04 | PadrePio | amorous I don't know what to say to you |
| 11:08.11 | Kataki | noid_: Sucks to be him, then. :) |
| 11:08.14 | kioto | dli, can you ask to my question ? |
| 11:08.23 | PadrePio | I know I have a psc and works grat |
| 11:08.31 | noid_ | Kataki: you bet... he deleted the backup images |
| 11:08.59 | amx-werk | where is |xit |
| 11:09.02 | Kataki | Hahaha |
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| 11:09.13 | MrParity | i have a question about debian on an usb-stick. if i want to start from the stick, how should my fstab look like for the root partition? |
| 11:09.32 | amx-werk | Ixit where did you go |
| 11:09.52 | noid_ | Kataki: that's what happens when you "rm * .tmp" instead of "rm *.tmp" *as root* (sigh) |
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| 11:10.14 | Guerin | noid_: heh |
| 11:10.23 | Guerin | i did something like that a week or so ago |
| 11:10.39 | Guerin | noid_: confusion about spaces in filenames |
| 11:10.42 | Guerin | and * |
| 11:10.43 | Guerin | etc. |
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| 11:11.01 | scruffy | Guerin: seems like I was just talking to mwelson about that just the other day.... but nooOOoo.. |
| 11:11.21 | noid_ | Guerin: it's not that unusual... except for the fact that i warned him beforehand so now i can say "i told you" |
| 11:11.26 | lxIT | amx-werk: Here I am |
| 11:11.30 | lxIT | Sorry to PM you |
| 11:11.44 | Guerin | noid_: i bet that makes you well chuffed |
| 11:11.48 | noid_ | so no way to undelete files from xfs? heh |
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| 11:11.56 | Kataki | noid_: You could I suppose ask in #xfs, I believe some XFS developers hang out there. |
| 11:11.59 | lxIT | I saw your nick, "werk" is in it, so I thought you might speak Dutch |
| 11:12.01 | scruffy | Guerin: (regarding aliasing rm to cp ~/Trash instead, and using a cronjob to empty ~/Trash once a day) |
| 11:12.07 | noid_ | Kataki: nice idea |
| 11:12.15 | Kataki | noid_: But I doubt very much you'll be able to recover the deleted files. |
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| 11:12.29 | tomfeld | Hello, how can tell I cups-pdf to convert pdfs to black-white pdfs? |
| 11:12.33 | lxIT | amx-werk: Sorry to bother, just being polite |
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| 11:12.42 | tomfeld | I tell |
| 11:12.44 | noid_ | Guerin: well, he almost deleted some stuff i have on that server, fortunately i keep it under another directory... i moved it a few months ago |
| 11:12.45 | travo | hey everyone! Does anyone know how to get Totem to work with KDE? Mine keeps just starting up and sticking on the DVD warning screen. I can never get to the title menu or anything. |
| 11:12.55 | amx-werk | IxIT: no problem, I couldnt notice you... I am amorphix of England |
| 11:12.56 | fooscope | oops heh, turbo typing, I just joined #debiam |
| 11:13.40 | lxIT | amx-werk: Oki, so no Dutch or Flemish than ;) |
| 11:13.48 | amx-werk | hehe no |
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| 11:14.08 | amx-werk | I have a teacup on my desk which is called "Flemish Green" :-| thats all |
| 11:14.30 | travo | hey everyone! Does anyone know how to get Totem to work with KDE? Mine keeps just starting up and sticking on the DVD warning screen. I can never get to the title menu or anything. |
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| 11:14.53 | lxIT | amx-werk: hahaha, that's not much Flemish :D |
| 11:14.58 | amx-werk | ;-) |
| 11:15.21 | travo | does anyone here watch dvd's on a debian system? |
| 11:15.27 | fooscope | i am creating a package and want to test on a fresh box. Is there a way to roll back to a debian base system. ie removing any other packages which have been installed after CD install. |
| 11:15.34 | bibe | travo : yes, I use wxvlc |
| 11:15.46 | amx-werk | not me, but I'm hoping to watch TV on a Debian system when I get round to fixing up mythtv |
| 11:15.47 | travo | if so, how? |
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| 11:15.50 | travo | what do you use for software? |
| 11:15.50 | travo | i am running debian stable |
| 11:15.50 | lxIT | amx-werk: you have any experience with "alien"? |
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| 11:16.10 | amx-werk | IxIT: only the film trilogy |
| 11:16.11 | scruffy | travo: I use mplayer |
| 11:16.12 | kioto | ok byez |
| 11:16.15 | silverwolf | Hej. Hvad skal jeg bruge at tex kompiler p[ linux? |
| 11:16.16 | kioto | good work to all |
| 11:16.18 | bibe | travo : I use wxvlc, a wx frontend to vlc |
| 11:16.20 | scruffy | bibe: what package is that in? |
| 11:16.29 | marc | Does anybody know where I can pick up an image to boot debian from a floppy drive, as the bios in an old pc i found in my cupboard doesn't have CD-ROM support in the boot order.. |
| 11:16.33 | Guerin | silverwolf: english, if you can |
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| 11:16.54 | lxIT | amx-werk: you disappointment again :s ;) |
| 11:17.00 | silverwolf | Sorry, wrong channel hehehe :) i would have asked in the linux.dk channel :) |
| 11:17.01 | amx-werk | :-> |
| 11:17.02 | saloxin | marc: there are boot floppies, i think you need 3 (or recycle one) |
| 11:17.05 | bibe | scruffy : wxvlc, I use marillat's repository |
| 11:17.32 | marc | saloxin: yes i figured there was, just spent 15 minutes on the debian.org website looking for them and only picking up cd/dvd images |
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| 11:17.38 | travo | it just sits there, it won't play the movie with WXVLC |
| 11:17.41 | saloxin | marc: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/floppy/ |
| 11:18.01 | saloxin | although they are daily generated I hope they are for sarge |
| 11:18.01 | marc | saloxin: Thankyou. |
| 11:18.19 | marc | I have Sarge and Woody on a CD |
| 11:18.20 | saloxin | root and boot is essential, cdrom and net are nice |
| 11:18.38 | marc | Just save these to the floppy and whala ? |
| 11:18.57 | bibe | travo : did you install libdvdnav4? |
| 11:19.20 | travo | I will chech, BRB |
| 11:19.31 | travo | i just got linux working a few days ago |
| 11:19.44 | saloxin | marc: dd if=image of=/dev/fd0u1440 |
| 11:19.51 | travo | i have a friend helping me...but he doesn know much about dvds...just a programmer and a os freak |
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| 11:21.09 | travo | bibe: libdvdnav4 is installed on my system |
| 11:21.26 | marc | Argh the files don't fit on the half a dozen floppies I have laying around |
| 11:21.29 | bibe | travo : open wxvlc , File -> Open Disc, select "DVD" (not "DVD (Menus)") and then Play |
| 11:21.33 | PadrePio | what does travo stads for? maby transvestite? |
| 11:21.46 | travo | LMAO! no Padre |
| 11:21.54 | travo | short for Travis |
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| 11:22.43 | saloxin | marc: they are floppy images 1440k :-/ also I might have given you the worng link, they seem to be sid floppies.. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
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| 11:23.08 | marc | yeah the floppies i have are 1.38mb ;/ |
| 11:23.14 | catalyst | openoffice 2.0 already in sid? |
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| 11:23.48 | travo | now it just wont play at all |
| 11:23.53 | saloxin | :-( no chance of formatting them to a rpoper size? |
| 11:24.04 | travo | my friend here is installing other libs/suggested packages...and now it wont play at all |
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| 11:24.48 | davi__ | How to download the source.deb package of a debian package ? |
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| 11:25.05 | dli | davi apt-get sources foo |
| 11:25.06 | bibe | travo : did you install libdvdread3 also? |
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| 11:25.10 | N0S3 | -buenas |
| 11:25.11 | bibe | saloxin : yes |
| 11:25.11 | dli | Daveman, source |
| 11:25.26 | davi__ | thanks dli |
| 11:25.36 | bibe | saloxin : apt-cache policy openoffice.org shows version 2.0.0-1 for sid |
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| 11:25.39 | lnx_ | catalyst: ya |
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| 11:25.58 | catalyst | lnx_: ok, thanks |
| 11:26.13 | Guerin | !info openoffice.org sid |
| 11:26.18 | travo | bibe: yes, I do have it installed |
| 11:26.19 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 76 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
| 11:26.24 | lnx_ | btw, can you use skins in OO 2.0? the toolbars are damn ugly |
| 11:26.33 | Guerin | !win oo.o maint team! |
| 11:26.36 | dpkg | Congratulations, oo.o maint team!! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 11:26.43 | Guerin | wtf |
| 11:26.45 | travo | I love Linux, I just want to watch movies, and I am CONVERTED |
| 11:26.46 | travo | lol |
| 11:26.50 | Guerin | seciotn EDITORS? |
| 11:27.15 | bibe | Guerin : yes, I never understood it but... that's it |
| 11:27.51 | jan_ | i'm looking for working GRSEC libc6 packages on debian |
| 11:27.57 | bibe | travo : did you try with another dvd? |
| 11:28.18 | travo | yes |
| 11:28.30 | Guerin | jan_: apt-cache search libc6 grsec |
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| 11:29.04 | Guerin | jan_: if there are no hits then either 1) they'r enot packaged or 2) the debian libc6 is already grsec'ed |
| 11:29.04 | lnx_ | I'm also experiencing some problems with debian + dvd player. instead of the movie XINE shows the 'copying cds is crime' trailer :> |
| 11:29.19 | Guerin | lnx_: pwn3d |
| 11:29.37 | lnx_ | and I even got libdvdcss2 installed! |
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| 11:32.03 | frankyd | which tool do you prefer for icq -- licq or sim -- i'm using licq but i've got to retype my uid on every startup and my contacts say they can't see that i'm online |
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| 11:32.53 | eps | debian sid... do I need hotplug? updating udev and getting libsepol1 though they want to remove hotplug |
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| 11:33.17 | Guerin | eps: dunno. Do you? It's a preference, not a requirement. |
| 11:33.46 | eps | hmm |
| 11:33.49 | travo | is there a Debian "DVD How-to" website or something that I can goto? |
| 11:33.52 | eps | might just do it and install it later |
| 11:34.08 | frankyd | excuse me but which client should i take licq or sim ? |
| 11:34.24 | jan_ | Guerin: i have a grsec enabled kernel, but redhat implemented some new stuff into libc6, and that gives collisions between libc6 and grsec, please read http://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?t=1152 |
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| 11:34.35 | scruffy | frankyd: I use centericq, but it's ncurses |
| 11:34.47 | jan_ | i _had_ a working one, but it's gone and i cant downgrade |
| 11:34.52 | frankyd | hmmm |
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| 11:35.56 | Guerin | jan_: this is not #redhat |
| 11:36.13 | Guerin | jan_: and no, downgrading libc6 is extremely unwise |
| 11:36.42 | jan_ | Guerin: it's just redhats fault of implementing it into the new glibc, and ofcourse the debian packages have thus 'functionality' |
| 11:37.02 | Guerin | jan_: oh, I see. They've polluted the upstream. |
| 11:37.15 | Guerin | pissed in the crystal glibc waters, as it were |
| 11:37.19 | jan_ | indeed :-) |
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| 11:37.39 | jan_ | but meanwhile, my server is quite broken and i have a lots of user complaining :P |
| 11:38.02 | Eclipser | tell them to stuff it |
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| 11:38.18 | chiccv | holaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 11:38.38 | Guerin | jan_: i'd take this up on debian-devel mailing list |
| 11:38.52 | Guerin | jan_: or revert to a non-grsec kernel |
| 11:38.53 | chiccv | hey |
| 11:38.54 | chiccv | hi |
| 11:38.55 | jan_ | it already has been there |
| 11:38.59 | Guerin | though that would suck |
| 11:39.01 | chiccv | spanish= |
| 11:39.03 | jan_ | Guerin: 'it's not my problem' |
| 11:39.16 | chiccv | speak spanish?= |
| 11:39.30 | noid_ | chiccv: #debian-es |
| 11:39.32 | Guerin | jan_: rifght, because it's upstream which is broken, it's a matter between upstream and grsec maintainers |
| 11:39.37 | chiccv | page the irc in spanish |
| 11:39.41 | chiccv | ok thanks |
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| 11:41.30 | JdGordon | i am having a problem install php4 on my debian box.. i have installed apache and it works, but after i apt-get php do i need to do anything else? |
| 11:41.52 | azeem | JdGordon: did you read the relevant documentation |
| 11:41.53 | azeem | ? |
| 11:42.10 | JdGordon | course not... apt-get is supposed to be smart enough to do it all for me |
| 11:42.11 | azeem | JdGordon: it is usually located at /usr/share/doc/<package name>/ |
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| 11:42.27 | sep | JdGordon, since you want php and apache together i assume what you realy want is libapache[2]-mod-php4 ? |
| 11:42.31 | bibe | JdGordon : you simply have to install libapache-mod-php4 (or libapache2-mod-php4), and read the documentation |
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| 11:42.58 | JdGordon | actually the reason i didnt, is coz last time i tried it worked fine after aptgetting it... |
| 11:43.01 | Guerin | JdGordon: hahaha |
| 11:43.27 | Guerin | JdGordon: your first mistake was expecting a tool to read the documentation for you |
| 11:43.37 | Guerin | your second mistake was telling us about it :) |
| 11:43.54 | JdGordon | actually, i did follow the docs on the php site re installing on deb and it didnt work |
| 11:44.03 | azeem | JdGordon: your perception is wrong. Apt-get just downloads and installs packages. All the magic happens in the packages, if the maintainer cared |
| 11:44.16 | Guerin | JdGordon: read the documentation which debian distributes |
| 11:44.26 | JdGordon | ok, could some1 please link me the working docs? |
| 11:44.39 | Guerin | !helpfile badgers |
| 11:44.39 | dpkg | For help with badgers, look in /usr/share/doc/badgers There may be an examples/ directory there as well. |
| 11:45.03 | bibe | JdGordon : you should read Debian documentation for Debian packages. It usually includes all the package documentation, plus some Debian-specific hints |
| 11:45.32 | azeem | 13:37 < azeem> JdGordon: it is usually located at /usr/share/doc/<package name>/ |
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| 11:46.12 | Andur | hi |
| 11:46.44 | Andur | I can't mount my usb pendrive |
| 11:46.46 | thepeet | how can i set a key on my wireless adapter using iwconfig? i've tried iwconfig ath0 key restricted $HEX_CODE ... The key is a 128-Bit Shared WEP :) |
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| 11:47.09 | Andur | when I restart hotplug, it can't find the sd_mod module |
| 11:47.19 | lnx_ | thepeet: you could do it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:47.22 | lxIT | JdGordon: I installed an Apache2/PHP4 yesterday using the install doc of PHP.net |
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| 11:47.47 | lxIT | JdGordon: Everything went smooth and it was setup in 20 minutes |
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| 11:48.03 | lnx_ | thepeet: auto eth1 |
| 11:48.03 | lnx_ | iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 11:48.03 | lnx_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.03 | lnx_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.03 | lnx_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:48.17 | lxIT | JdGordon: Offcourse, you need to edit de httpd.conf & php.ini yourself |
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| 11:50.02 | bibe | thepeet : try adding "wireless-keymode restricted" in your /etc/network/interfaces, I had to do it yesterday in a customer's wireless network |
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| 11:50.58 | bibe | thepeet : although in my home wireless network I can stick with the default "wireless-keymode open" |
| 11:51.28 | Marf | hello everyone |
| 11:51.49 | Marf | I've a question regardin my firewall |
| 11:51.56 | ism | I am using enlightenment and I'd like to put several programs on a "run-at-start-up-list". Is this done through .xsession? How do 2 entries have to look like? |
| 11:52.03 | thepeet | bibe: hmm. i'll try that. |
| 11:52.30 | bibe | thepeet : do /sbin/iwconfig say that you are associated to your access point? |
| 11:53.10 | Marf | every machine behind my firewall can not do any request to www and gateway of all my individual machines are pointed to internal NIC of my firewall |
| 11:53.25 | thepeet | bibe: Yes, i'm associated with my AP. |
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| 11:53.32 | Marf | is there anybody who can point me into a right direction? |
| 11:53.36 | JdGordon | :) finaly working |
| 11:53.45 | thepeet | bibe: The thing is that it just won't connect. Works like a charm on my win2k app. |
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| 11:54.09 | thepeet | bibe: Has todo with the authenticatin method i use. The AP doens't support Open-Authentication it must be Shared. |
| 11:54.24 | thepeet | Is shared synounmous with restricted? |
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| 11:55.53 | Marf | at this moment i can ping from my firewall to www from internal NIC and external nic(pointin to www)) |
| 11:56.06 | gilbert_ | #ubuntu |
| 11:56.20 | thepeet | Marf: are you using iptables? |
| 11:56.39 | Marf | thepeet => yep ;-) |
| 11:56.49 | Marf | but no riles are loaded |
| 11:56.55 | Marf | ehh rules |
| 11:56.56 | h5n1 | hello |
| 11:57.14 | remedy | Marf, have you 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' ? |
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| 11:57.46 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 11:57.54 | Marf | thepeet => yep ;-) they are loaded through a script from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:58.04 | h5n1 | hi Fax |
| 11:58.47 | gilbert_ | #ubuntu |
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| 11:59.18 | thepeet | Marf: Try flush the tables, and enter each rule one by one. And do a ping www.google.com and see when it fails. |
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| 11:59.44 | gilbert_ | hi |
| 11:59.44 | gilbert_ | people |
| 11:59.46 | rick_timmis | hello all |
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| 12:00.16 | rick_timmis | can anyone tell me which configuration files sets the $PATH environment when loging in via ssh ? |
| 12:00.24 | gilbert_ | hi |
| 12:00.24 | gilbert_ | hello |
| 12:00.24 | gilbert_ | anybody can help me |
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| 12:01.16 | thepeet | gilbert_: with what? |
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| 12:03.47 | gilbert_ | ubuntu |
| 12:03.47 | gilbert_ | repositories |
| 12:03.47 | gilbert_ | about that |
| 12:03.47 | gilbert_ | thepeet |
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| 12:05.44 | Marf | thepeet => thnxs anyway I will start doin so by applyin everey rule one by one ;-) |
| 12:05.44 | dpower | hahha |
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| 12:07.00 | N0S3 | "linux kernel: memory.c:100: bad pmd 00000020." ----> alguien tendria alguna idea acerca de este error? |
| 12:07.11 | dpower | !se |
| 12:07.12 | dpkg | se is, like, Social Engineering |
| 12:07.16 | dpower | !es |
| 12:07.17 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:07.37 | HPS`Fresh | !fresh |
| 12:07.51 | HPS`Fresh | !it |
| 12:07.51 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 12:08.04 | HPS`Fresh | !help |
| 12:08.20 | Guerin | !se is also Sweden |
| 12:08.21 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 12:08.24 | md5sum | HPS`Fresh: you can msg the bot |
| 12:08.30 | Fox_1_ | which program is best for counting traffic and money. somethink like UTM, but free:)??? |
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| 12:09.00 | SunDevil | heu |
| 12:09.08 | SunDevil | what is the range i get from $RANDOM ? |
| 12:09.13 | SunDevil | whats the biggest number? |
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| 12:11.03 | PadrePio | $RANDOM can be ranged with % |
| 12:11.07 | adii | hello |
| 12:11.10 | PadrePio | hello |
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| 12:11.42 | adii | i've just installed sarge on my laptop, just started gdm and my mouse ain't working. how can i fix that? |
| 12:11.56 | JdGordon | n00b question... where do i set my mysql user/pass ? |
| 12:12.18 | PadrePio | adii have you tried configuring the x server |
| 12:12.37 | N0S3 | dpkg: ok |
| 12:12.37 | dpkg | [ok] not ok |
| 12:12.59 | Ayman- | JdGordon, mysqladmin |
| 12:13.00 | N0S3 | ? |
| 12:13.08 | Ayman- | or from mysql itself |
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| 12:13.23 | SunDevil | PadrePio: % ? |
| 12:13.41 | PadrePio | modul |
| 12:13.51 | adii | PadrePio, what you mean by "configuring the x server" ? |
| 12:14.15 | SunDevil | yes, but i need to know how often this line i triggerd: do test $RANDOM -lt 4096 &&sleep 1 |
| 12:14.39 | SunDevil | so i need to know the max number from $RANDOM, assuming lower liit is 0 |
| 12:14.43 | SunDevil | *limit |
| 12:15.00 | PadrePio | doesn't man random say anything? |
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| 12:15.15 | mtnman | addii: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will ask you config questions |
| 12:15.23 | PadrePio | adii do you know how the grphical stuff works in linux? |
| 12:15.24 | SunDevil | i get RANDOM(3), that talks about c-function |
| 12:16.23 | PadrePio | SunDevil I really don't know, explain better what you need to do |
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| 12:16.45 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 12:16.45 | Fox_1_ | which program is best for counting traffic and money. somethink like UTM, but free:)??? |
| 12:17.11 | thepeet | You want a program that counts money ? O_o |
| 12:17.39 | SunDevil | PadrePio: i need to sleep in a shellscript, but less then a second, which is not possible. |
| 12:17.47 | adii | PadrePio, graphical stuff : you mean x server ? i'm not totally begginer with it but not skilled neither |
| 12:18.00 | SunDevil | so there is a test $RANDOM -lt 4096 && sleep 1 |
| 12:18.12 | SunDevil | so, we sleep a second, but only sometimes :) |
| 12:18.22 | PadrePio | SunDevil you actually can sleep less than a second |
| 12:18.26 | SunDevil | in the long run thats about as close as i can get to sleeping part of a second |
| 12:18.32 | SunDevil | PadrePio: how? |
| 12:18.41 | PadrePio | sleep 0.00001 |
| 12:18.45 | PadrePio | for example |
| 12:18.55 | l3m | i'm looking for a way to EDIT a pdf on linux, any ideas/apps ? |
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| 12:19.15 | Fox_1_ | free program like UTM???!! |
| 12:19.26 | HPS`Fresh | Fox_1_ http://sams.perm.ru/ |
| 12:19.26 | adii | dpkg-reconfigure asks me about the mouse's port /dev/psaux ... /dev/input/mice : though, i'm using touchpad here |
| 12:19.47 | SunDevil | PadrePio: ill use that, but first i need to know how often the existing sleep 1 is triggerd to know what the new value after sleep should be |
| 12:19.53 | HPS`Fresh | writen by my friend |
| 12:20.12 | PadrePio | SunDevil I cannot help you |
| 12:20.13 | SunDevil | so i need the maximum number produced with an "echo $RANDOM" |
| 12:20.55 | PadrePio | let's say that virtually every number is possible |
| 12:21.05 | bbrazil | SunDevil: man bash |
| 12:21.15 | jan_ | /etc/host.conf: line 24: bad command `mdns off' what's that? |
| 12:21.17 | SunDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.17 | SunDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.21 | SunDevil | AAAAAAAAH! :) |
| 12:21.23 | SunDevil | thanks you |
| 12:21.25 | SunDevil | -s |
| 12:21.34 | jan_ | it's allowed there folowing the configuration file :( |
| 12:22.14 | jan_ | anyway, problem solved by removing it :P |
| 12:23.21 | adii | ok i've just released that this big button was "enable mouse" |
| 12:23.21 | beardy | l3m: Have a look at the packages pdftk, flpsed, The GIMP. |
| 12:23.29 | ism | I'm running enlightenment but I cant drag 'n drop Icons onto my desktop? Why is that? |
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| 12:24.26 | beardy | l3m: The GIMP's package name is gimp |
| 12:24.31 | Kalidarn | whats the OO channel for debian> |
| 12:24.41 | Kalidarn | i was sure it was #oo-debian |
| 12:24.51 | beardy | Kalidarn: Are you sure there is one? |
| 12:24.57 | Kalidarn | yeah |
| 12:24.59 | Kalidarn | there is |
| 12:25.01 | thandavarayan | ism: I am not sure whether enlight....can able to draw icons on desktop. |
| 12:25.05 | Kalidarn | cos ive been there before |
| 12:25.08 | beardy | Kalidarn: #debian-oo, if any, more likely |
| 12:25.16 | Kalidarn | lol okay ;D |
| 12:25.22 | Kalidarn | didn't try that permetation |
| 12:25.31 | Kalidarn | stick it in the topic ;) |
| 12:25.36 | ism | thandavarayan: so it's impossible? Is there a workaround? |
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| 12:25.42 | h5n1 | thandavarayan, in theory, enlightenment is just a wm |
| 12:25.53 | h5n1 | thandavarayan, so... |
| 12:26.19 | ism | h5n1: so what am I supposed to do? |
| 12:26.37 | thandavarayan | h5n1: Indeed, its a WM, it get icons on Desktop, you can try ROX filer. |
| 12:26.37 | h5n1 | ism, no idea |
| 12:26.40 | beardy | Kalidarn: Was that the correct name of the channel? |
| 12:27.05 | Kalidarn | yeah |
| 12:27.08 | Kalidarn | ;) ur right beardy |
| 12:27.14 | thandavarayan | ism: try ROX filer, which can able to draw icons on Desktop. |
| 12:27.19 | Kalidarn | i got it wrong not #oo-debian but #debian-oo |
| 12:27.34 | thandavarayan | ism: but it need some tweaking, I suppose that is very simple. |
| 12:27.55 | h5n1 | thandavarayan, in the non-kde/gnome desktop, rox is good for file-manager |
| 12:28.30 | h5n1 | I love rox more and more |
| 12:28.34 | thandavarayan | h5n1: Indeed, its light-weight. |
| 12:28.42 | ism | thandavarayan: I have already installed ROX and it works quite nice but I dont have any clue how to enable drag'drop onto desktop mmh |
| 12:29.31 | thandavarayan | ism: At the moment, I too dont have any idea how to bring icons on desktop. |
| 12:30.01 | beardy | !debianoo |
| 12:30.01 | dpkg | For the Debian OpenOffice.org channel, /join #debian-oo |
| 12:30.50 | thandavarayan | ism: I am sure you can find some other channel, who can give more info about that. |
| 12:30.50 | beardy | there |
| 12:31.04 | h5n1 | thandavarayan, hehe, because rox is source from some kind of old os |
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| 12:31.33 | ism | thandavarayan: alright; thanks for letting me know. |
| 12:31.41 | l3m | beardy: ty |
| 12:31.44 | h5n1 | thandavarayan, I found this fact... |
| 12:31.57 | ism | h5n1: looks like you're familiar with ROX? Can you help me with my issue? |
| 12:31.59 | thandavarayan | h5n1: about |
| 12:32.08 | N0S3 | http://pastebin.com/406391 ----> any idea? |
| 12:32.08 | h5n1 | ism, no |
| 12:32.23 | h5n1 | ism, I am a novice |
| 12:32.50 | useruser | ism: i thought that rox didn't use the desktop much... maybe i'm misremembering something |
| 12:32.54 | ism | h5n1: why not? well, I just installed ROX yesterday and have on a scale from 0 to 10 a clue of 1 |
| 12:33.20 | loxley | ism: rox --pinboard=Default & |
| 12:33.33 | loxley | ism: put that in your startup script |
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| 12:34.53 | ism | loxley: hmm sounds good heh, but I dont know what is my startup script. (Running X with enlightenment) |
| 12:35.18 | sussudio | nvz: http://www.weirfield.co.uk/downloads/badgers%201024.jpg |
| 12:36.03 | nvz | sussudio: :) |
| 12:36.10 | sussudio | badgers > * |
| 12:36.31 | nvz | sussudio: looks like fieldysnuts and lightbright |
| 12:36.43 | thandavarayan | ism: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/24/ROX.pdf try this out |
| 12:36.43 | sussudio | that's an insult to badgers :-| |
| 12:36.51 | nkuttler_ | ism: last time i checked you needed the rox-session (iirc) package, but it never was an official package |
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| 12:38.41 | thandavarayan | ism: hope that will help you. |
| 12:39.17 | Kalidarn | fark |
| 12:39.22 | Kalidarn | the german mirror is failing |
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| 12:39.39 | h5n1 | germany? |
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| 12:40.04 | azeem | Kalidarn: which one? |
| 12:40.11 | Kalidarn | whats the oo final for debian? |
| 12:40.14 | Kalidarn | oh the freenet one |
| 12:40.20 | Kalidarn | mentioned on openoffice.debian.net |
| 12:40.25 | azeem | oh, those |
| 12:40.32 | Kalidarn | theyre sucking |
| 12:40.36 | azeem | what do you mean, oo final? |
| 12:40.37 | Kalidarn | i dont want to compile oo u see |
| 12:40.38 | Kalidarn | ;) |
| 12:40.42 | Kalidarn | oo 2.0 final |
| 12:40.44 | h5n1 | ? |
| 12:40.47 | Kalidarn | its not in beta anymore |
| 12:40.58 | azeem | Kalidarn: sure, but I cannot parse your question |
| 12:41.17 | Kalidarn | nah but http://openoffice.debian.net/ they compile em |
| 12:41.19 | Kalidarn | into debs |
| 12:41.26 | azeem | nvz: ? |
| 12:41.39 | Kalidarn | and i am trying to get the final for OO from one of the debian repos |
| 12:41.47 | nvz | I've got this asshole that talks shit behind my back |
| 12:41.59 | Kalidarn | nvz: are all debian buffs like you? cos i know a guy who sounds just like you |
| 12:42.10 | azeem | Kalidarn: why do you need the final version? One of the release candidates is in experimental |
| 12:42.11 | Kalidarn | oh :) i thought you were talking baout me |
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| 12:42.19 | Kalidarn | grr |
| 12:42.20 | nvz | Kalidarn: nobody hit your buzzer |
| 12:42.22 | Kalidarn | the rpm is final |
| 12:42.22 | nvz | :P |
| 12:42.26 | Kalidarn | lol |
| 12:42.28 | Kalidarn | true |
| 12:42.29 | azeem | actually |
| 12:42.30 | h5n1 | ... |
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| 12:42.50 | azeem | 2.0.0-1 is in unstable |
| 12:43.04 | Kalidarn | ah yeah its not like 1.99999 anymore ;) |
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| 12:43.13 | Kalidarn | i think it switched to testing |
| 12:43.17 | azeem | Kalidarn: "it"? |
| 12:43.26 | Kalidarn | oo |
| 12:43.32 | jelly | how do I use kernel-patch-something patches with make-kpkg? |
| 12:43.44 | azeem | Kalidarn: do you know how packages migrate from unstable to testing in Debian? |
| 12:43.51 | Kalidarn | google "building kernel the debian way" jelly |
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| 12:44.01 | Kalidarn | oh they do do they? |
| 12:44.07 | Kalidarn | i thought they went from testing to unstable to stable |
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| 12:44.21 | Kalidarn | testing >>> unstable >>> stable |
| 12:44.23 | Kalidarn | am i wrong? |
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| 12:44.24 | azeem | Kalidarn: well, I cannot tell what your issue is |
| 12:44.30 | azeem | Kalidarn: yes |
| 12:44.31 | tictac | Kalidarn: yes. |
| 12:44.34 | Kalidarn | lol |
| 12:44.36 | Kalidarn | ;p |
| 12:44.42 | jelly | Kalidarn: thanks. |
| 12:44.51 | Kalidarn | that never made sense for me |
| 12:44.56 | Kalidarn | when someone told me that |
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| 12:45.03 | tictac | old stable (woody), stable (sarge), testing (etch), unstable (sid) |
| 12:45.13 | Kalidarn | ah |
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| 12:45.17 | Kalidarn | yeah they gave me etch lol |
| 12:45.30 | Kalidarn | because they thought it was the one in the middle ;) of stable and like nightly bad |
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| 12:45.31 | widrone_away | !lol |
| 12:45.31 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 12:45.37 | h5n1 | new -> old -> old enough |
| 12:45.46 | spoopin | asg: you there? |
| 12:46.02 | Kalidarn | LOL |
| 12:46.04 | asg | spoopin: yep |
| 12:46.09 | nvz | tequilla or not tequilla that is the question :P |
| 12:46.12 | Kalidarn | thats just for u widrone_away |
| 12:46.31 | One | dpkg, xorg? |
| 12:46.31 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R6.8.2. ask me about <get xorg> |
| 12:46.32 | dpower | !tequila |
| 12:46.32 | dpkg | tequila bring pain! |
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| 12:46.37 | One | dpkg, get xorg? |
| 12:46.38 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 12:46.47 | dpower | One: /msg the bot |
| 12:47.03 | One | dpower, Sorry |
| 12:47.17 | tictac | for some reason the latest nvidia drivers dont seem to be working on sid. |
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| 12:47.28 | tictac | well, they work just have no 3d accel |
| 12:47.39 | Kalidarn | anyone got a rep they know is the latest openofffice.org v2.0 one? |
| 12:47.49 | Kalidarn | i dont like the idea of the pgpkeys failing |
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| 12:47.58 | cheal | Kalidarn: ur, sid? |
| 12:48.03 | neopica | how can I tell if xv and harware acceleration is working ? (except glxgears) |
| 12:48.04 | Kalidarn | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.05 | tictac | Kalidarn: so, install debian-keyring |
| 12:48.18 | cheal | tictac: explain how you diagnose this |
| 12:48.32 | azeem | tictac: this won't help for the openoffice.org repo, I guess |
| 12:48.35 | hotzenplotz | can perhaps anybody in here point me to a good howto for setting up lire on sarge ? installing was easy by apt-get but configuring looks absolutely insane for me:( |
| 12:48.42 | azeem | Kalidarn: just wait till 2.0.0 hits etch |
| 12:48.44 | Kalidarn | yeah well im not actually using debian |
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| 12:48.46 | jelly | tictac: yikes, debian-keyring is 11MB! |
| 12:48.49 | tictac | openoffice repository? its in etch. |
| 12:48.52 | tictac | err sid |
| 12:48.53 | Kalidarn | azeem: i dont have oo on here ;) |
| 12:48.55 | cheal | neopica: glxinfo |
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| 12:48.58 | Kalidarn | i need some sort of oo :D |
| 12:49.02 | azeem | Kalidarn: so what's the problem? |
| 12:49.08 | tictac | glxinfo shows nvidia. |
| 12:49.20 | Kalidarn | lol i have no oo whatsoever and the stupid german mirror is buggered, the others look dodgy |
| 12:49.21 | tictac | yet ut still cant load opengl libs |
| 12:49.26 | tictac | :| |
| 12:49.28 | Kalidarn | on the open.office.debian.net site |
| 12:49.31 | azeem | Kalidarn: so why don't you install the version in etch? |
| 12:49.39 | Kalidarn | what version is it? |
| 12:49.45 | azeem | 1.1.4-7 |
| 12:49.55 | Kalidarn | 1.x sucks |
| 12:49.56 | Kalidarn | ;) |
| 12:49.59 | tictac | This is OpenOffice.org built with ooo-build-2.0.0 |
| 12:50.01 | azeem | 14:44 < azeem> Kalidarn: just wait till 2.0.0 hits etch |
| 12:50.10 | cheal | tictac: what does it say about direct rendering |
| 12:50.24 | tictac | cheal: Yes |
| 12:50.30 | azeem | Kalidarn: then install the one from unstable, if you dae |
| 12:50.33 | azeem | s/dae/dare/ |
| 12:51.27 | jelly | same version for OO.o in testing and unstable. |
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| 12:51.55 | azeem | jelly: http://packages.debian.org/openoffice.org |
| 12:52.10 | tictac | cheal: http://channels.debian.net/paste/965 |
| 12:52.21 | jelly | azeem: bah, if it's not on my mirror... |
| 12:53.01 | bob2 | hotzenplotz: you mean lirc? |
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| 12:53.38 | spoopin | asg: it's back up - check it out :) |
| 12:53.42 | hotzenplotz | bob2 no i mean lire ( log analyzer) |
| 12:54.17 | asg | spoopin: k, thanks |
| 12:54.24 | mark_alec | how do i install source code using apt? |
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| 12:54.51 | cheal | mark_alec: source code for what? |
| 12:55.00 | tictac | apt-get source pacakge will allow you to download the source files as well as any patches used for the binary packages. |
| 12:55.15 | cheal | tictac: and why do you say that "ut still cant load opengl libs"? |
| 12:55.23 | tictac | > ut2004 |
| 12:55.23 | tictac | Could not load OpenGL library |
| 12:55.26 | mark_alec | will it automatically ./configure make make install |
| 12:55.38 | bob2 | mark_alec: what would be the point of that? |
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| 12:55.51 | spoopin | asg: np |
| 12:55.54 | bob2 | mark_alec: the binary packages are already built with those same default options |
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| 12:58.57 | cheal | tictac: good question, tell me if you find |
| 12:59.03 | tictac | lol |
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| 13:00.14 | tictac | cheal: great help you are :P |
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| 13:00.36 | bob2 | that seems semi-trivial |
| 13:00.43 | bob2 | does glxinfo/glxgears work? |
| 13:00.48 | tictac | yup |
| 13:01.15 | cheal | tictac: it's a pleasure ;) |
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| 13:01.59 | tictac | hmm. strace shows that its looking for nvidia-tls |
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| 13:02.30 | fevel | I loved debian but I have a multimedia keyboard, cant get the keys to work. I found out how to discover the keycode with xev, but how do I configure the keys in gnome?? |
| 13:02.31 | megabit | Hi!! |
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| 13:05.08 | cheal | tictac: you did install the drivers the debian way, right? |
| 13:05.14 | tictac | no |
| 13:05.18 | cheal | argh |
| 13:05.25 | cheal | !nvidiasmite tictac |
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| 13:05.51 | cheal | tictac: I guess that explains |
| 13:05.59 | tictac | eh. |
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| 13:07.43 | megabit | Can you help me with alsa? I want listen music from (for example) XMMS and GAIM (together). Is here some packege to this? |
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| 13:08.02 | bob2 | nope |
| 13:08.06 | cahoot | megabit: getting a soundblaster is no option? |
| 13:08.11 | bob2 | http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin |
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| 13:08.28 | fevel | cahoot: I have a sound blaste and it doesnt work |
| 13:08.46 | g00se | No echo char on logging into Gnome + Sarge. Bug or feature? |
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| 13:08.52 | PerfDave | megabit: If you're using a Debian 2.6 kernel, then your ALSA setup should be fine. If your soundcard has hardware mixing which is supported by ALSA, then it should Just Work. If not, you have to use "dmix", the software mixer for ALSA, which I've never made work. |
| 13:08.56 | haakonn | dpkg -l shows some packages that are uninstalled. they are prefixed by "rc". how can i purge them completely from the system? |
| 13:08.57 | dpkg | No packages found matching shows some packages that are uninstalled. they are prefixed by "rc". how can i purge them completely from the system |
| 13:09.23 | cheal | in # apt-get update;'s output, what does a line starting with "Ign " mean? |
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| 13:09.35 | cahoot | fevel: seriously? |
| 13:09.35 | tictac | cheal: ignore |
| 13:09.37 | bob2 | haakonn: by editing dpkg's status file |
| 13:09.40 | megabit | Thaks. I will try it (: |
| 13:09.44 | bob2 | haakonn: (ie don't bother, they're already gone) |
| 13:09.55 | c0r3 | Hi all, damn there's lots of people on this channel :) |
| 13:09.57 | bob2 | cheal: I gather it means it didn't find a Release file |
| 13:09.59 | haakonn | bob2: ok, i thought maybe there were some files left, like config files or whatever |
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| 13:10.22 | fevel | cahoot: uhum...it says that the sound device is busy if I try to see a movie and listen to music |
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| 13:10.36 | leopoldo | good morning |
| 13:10.38 | cahoot | fevel: esd or artsd getting in the way? |
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| 13:10.56 | haakonn | obtw, given a random file somewhere, how can i look up which package it belongs to? |
| 13:11.00 | bob2 | haakonn: nah, it's just a figment of dpkg's imagination |
| 13:11.05 | bob2 | haakonn: dpkg -S filename |
| 13:11.10 | haakonn | bob2: thanks :) |
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| 13:11.21 | bob2 | haakonn: dlocate is the same, but updates it's db each morning, so it runs faster but might be out of date |
| 13:11.24 | leopoldo | How can I update kernel 2.2 to set SATA HD |
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| 13:11.25 | fevel | cahoot: I really don know |
| 13:11.26 | leopoldo | ? |
| 13:11.47 | cheal | bob2: there's a Release file (http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing/dists/etch/security-updates/Release) |
| 13:11.52 | bob2 | leopoldo: 2.2? |
| 13:11.58 | cahoot | fevel: grep -i playback /proc/asound/pcm |
| 13:12.03 | leopoldo | I think tomato 2.2 |
| 13:12.03 | bob2 | leopoldo: are you joking? |
| 13:12.18 | cheal | bob2: for deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:12.22 | bob2 | leopoldo: are you trying to refer to "Debian Potato 2.2"? |
| 13:12.30 | leopoldo | sorry potato |
| 13:12.40 | bob2 | cheal: ah-hah, I guess I'm wrong then, sorry |
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| 13:12.49 | bob2 | leopoldo: time to upgrade to woody, then to sarge |
| 13:12.56 | cheal | bob2: ok |
| 13:12.59 | tuxuser19 | when i try to install KDE text to speech program oin my KDE3.3 by typing ./configure i get these error messages:checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 13:12.59 | tuxuser19 | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 13:12.59 | tuxuser19 | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
| 13:13.03 | khampf | what ioctls have changed as I cannot get wpa_supplicant to work with the ipw2200 driver with kernel 2.6.13(.2/4)? |
| 13:13.13 | ism | Okay, I tried to find my startup script, created a .xsession file reading "enlightenment & rox --pinboard=Default" but after entering login/pw in xdm, nothing happens and I return back to xdm. I then removed the .xsession file in $HOME and enlightenment started again, but doesn't load my programs I'd like to start upon startup. help? ;) |
| 13:13.17 | leopoldo | yes but I have a strange system |
| 13:13.18 | cheal | another thing is that I get "Ign " from my etch box, but it's OK from sarge |
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| 13:13.23 | bob2 | tuxuser19: install build-essential and kdelibs-dev |
| 13:13.40 | leopoldo | I have installed potato 2.2 on a compact flash 256 Mb |
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| 13:13.45 | PerfDave | tuxuser19: Also, /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 13:13.46 | khampf | ipw2200 and wpa_supplicant works great with kernels < 2.6.13 |
| 13:14.14 | leopoldo | and I have a raid controller for two sata hd |
| 13:14.25 | romany | I have been using djbdns (on BSD). I need to get a secure/fast/configuration-friendly one installed on my Sage box. PowerDNS looks interesting, but haven't used. Is it a good alternative? Could someone suggest something else? |
| 13:14.26 | bob2 | khampf: is it just that wpa_supplicant is out of date in sid? |
| 13:14.30 | cahoot | ism: put the rox line first, and no & after enlightenment |
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| 13:14.42 | bob2 | romany: powerdns works well, but so does bind9 |
| 13:14.50 | bob2 | romany: both are pretty similar to setup |
| 13:14.53 | leopoldo | now I've a minimal installation only ftp server and kernel |
| 13:14.54 | khampf | bob2: nah, I use 0.4.4 from testing (also in unstable) |
| 13:15.06 | bob2 | khampf: is there a new upstream version? |
| 13:15.08 | leopoldo | Can I update only the kernel |
| 13:15.09 | PerfDave | romany: If you've only got a small network, dnsmasq is simple to set up :) |
| 13:15.09 | khampf | bob2: and I have the correct firmware etc |
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| 13:15.11 | leopoldo | ? |
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| 13:15.40 | simone | #Maceio |
| 13:15.47 | khampf | bob2: haven't seen anything newer upstream (ipw, wpasupp), just the kernel has changed |
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| 13:15.50 | fevel | cahoot: It said directory not found |
| 13:15.59 | ism | cahoot: so any other application I'd like to use comes first, the windowmanager enlightenment at the end ? so: "application1 & application n & enlightenment" |
| 13:16.03 | bob2 | ism: that means the combination of them doesn't run...does running "X&", then "DISPLAY=:0 enlightenment & DISPLAY=:0 rox --pinboard=Default" work? |
| 13:16.09 | cahoot | fevel: so you don't use alsa |
| 13:16.20 | littleball | hello, i have a remote server and i cannot remember whether the boot loader is grub or else. Is it possible to find it out through any system log? |
| 13:16.21 | runa_ | hey :) any tool to change all hardlinks to symlinks for a dir (when possible)? |
| 13:16.21 | bob2 | khampf: right, but have they fixed the software to work with a newer kernel yet, I mean :) |
| 13:16.22 | PerfDave | leopoldo: If you're really running Potato, you want to upgrade your entire distro to at least Woody (Debian 3.0) to get security support. Also, SATA hard drives seem to work best with 2.6 kernels which means really running Sarge (Debian 3.1) |
| 13:16.35 | Holborn | fevel: you use ALSA? |
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| 13:16.46 | bob2 | littleball: no |
| 13:16.54 | bob2 | littleball: but it's kinda unlikely you have both installed, right? |
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| 13:17.26 | khampf | bob2: I guess my last option is to get in touch with the ipw2200 developers |
| 13:17.27 | fevel | Holborn: I guess not, Is alsa better?? |
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| 13:17.35 | leopoldo | So I have to format and reinstall or can I update? |
| 13:17.38 | Holborn | fevel: yes |
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| 13:17.58 | fevel | can I apt-get install it? |
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| 13:18.14 | bob2 | leopoldo: you can update |
| 13:18.17 | dimir | littleball: you can 'dd if=/dev/disk of=/tmp/file bs=512 count=1' and then hexedit it. |
| 13:18.18 | littleball | bob2, the problem is that i cannot remember. maybe i never use loader |
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| 13:18.23 | cahoot | fevel: but I doubt alsa or no alsa is the root of your problem |
| 13:18.38 | bob2 | littleball: dpkg -l lilo grub |
| 13:18.45 | littleball | thx |
| 13:18.56 | ism | bob2: hmm I have changed my .xsession file according to your idea. let me try. brb |
| 13:18.57 | leopoldo | pervdave: apt-get |
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| 13:19.09 | cahoot | fevel: fuser -v /dev/dsp - will tell if any app is occupying the device |
| 13:19.13 | bob2 | ism: eh? |
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| 13:19.24 | leopoldo | perfdave: could you suggest the string? |
| 13:19.28 | ism | bob2: hm? |
| 13:19.29 | simone | \server globo.com |
| 13:19.48 | PerfDave | leopoldo: What string? |
| 13:19.48 | Marthijn | hi all, I'm trying to install Debian using boot/root disks, but the USB modem from e-tech gives no Line... should I use a special root disk? |
| 13:19.57 | bob2 | ism: I didn't suggest changing it (what I said is what it already does) |
| 13:19.59 | leopoldo | to update |
| 13:20.07 | leopoldo | apt-get ..... |
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| 13:20.13 | bob2 | Marthijn: you're unlikely to be able to use any usb modem of any sort from the installer |
| 13:20.14 | fevel | I apt-get upgraded my machine...isnt that supposed o upgrade the kernel too? |
| 13:20.14 | leopoldo | i don't remember |
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| 13:20.47 | PerfDave | leopoldo: Go to http://www.debian.org/ and find the Woody installation documentation and read about upgrading from Potato. Then find the Sarge documentation and read about upgrading from Woody. Both of them are nontrivial procedures. |
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| 13:20.49 | Myon | fevel: not necessarily |
| 13:21.11 | Myon | fevel: if you have a kernel-x.y package yes |
| 13:21.17 | leopoldo | yes but I have few space |
| 13:21.22 | leopoldo | only 256 Mb |
| 13:21.24 | Myon | kernel-image-2.4-2-686 no |
| 13:21.51 | abrotman | it would be kernel-image-2.4-386 etc .. vs kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 13:22.04 | PerfDave | leopoldo: You can fit a Woody installation inside 200Mb, I'm pretty sure you can fit a Sarge one inside 250Mb |
| 13:22.09 | ism | bob2: okay so what should my .xsession look like? |
| 13:22.21 | leopoldo | ok |
| 13:22.22 | fevel | mine is 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 13:22.25 | leopoldo | I try |
| 13:22.27 | bob2 | ism: I didn't say anything about that, I was suggesting something to run from a VT |
| 13:22.30 | abrotman | fevel: then no .. |
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| 13:22.33 | leopoldo | thank you |
| 13:22.43 | abrotman | fevel: and you went to etch ? |
| 13:22.45 | kzar | I am having a bit of trouble getting the nvidia kernel driver working. I compiled my own kernel, then followed the nvidia-kernel-source instructions and compiled that, installed them both, rebooted and startx still complains that it couldn't load the NVIDIA kernel module. Any ideas? |
| 13:22.49 | Marthijn | bob2: okay, but I cannot select a device |
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| 13:23.11 | Marthijn | bob2: the USB e-tech is not supported maybe? when I choose DHCP, the Line light is off |
| 13:23.12 | fevel | abrotman: etch? |
| 13:23.15 | abrotman | fevel: testing ? |
| 13:23.26 | PerfDave | kzar: My suggestion would be to use a Debian-provided kernel and module-assistant :) |
| 13:23.28 | fevel | yes |
| 13:23.39 | kzar | PerfDave: as in make-kpkg? |
| 13:23.43 | PerfDave | leopoldo: Or you could just reformat and install Sarge from scratch. |
| 13:23.44 | abrotman | fevel: in etch .. the kernels are now named `linux-image-*` instead of kernel-image |
| 13:23.48 | PerfDave | kzar: No, not as in make-kpkg. |
| 13:23.57 | fevel | abrotman: since I blocked the unstabble repositories |
| 13:24.01 | PerfDave | kzar: Why did you feel the need to compile your own kernel? |
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| 13:24.14 | kzar | PerfDave: ? What does that have to do with anything |
| 13:24.19 | sportie | jemand da |
| 13:24.24 | abrotman | !de |
| 13:24.25 | dpkg | it has been said that de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
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| 13:24.28 | sportie | somer germans ? |
| 13:24.29 | PerfDave | kzar: It has to do with getting your nVidia card working as easily as possible :) |
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| 13:24.37 | sportie | thx |
| 13:24.38 | E-dfg2 | Can anybody help me get napache2 with php4 installed on debian sarge? |
| 13:24.43 | lxIT | wich tool can be used to rip a DVD (movie) to HD (in ISO or just files) |
| 13:24.47 | E-dfg2 | the php4 packages seems to be made for apache1 only? |
| 13:24.55 | abrotman | E-dfg2: libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 13:25.04 | E-dfg2 | abrotman: ahh thanks |
| 13:25.05 | ism | bob2: the problem is, I would like to add "rox -pinboard=Default" to my start-up script. but I dont know where my start-up script is... so I suggested to create a .xsession file with exactly this entry. but it doesn't work ;) |
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| 13:25.13 | E-dfg2 | lol if its that simple it rocks :) |
| 13:25.18 | kzar | PerfDave: I felt the need to compile the kernel myself for no real reason just to get rid of crud I didn't need and things and make sure all the drivers I wanted where included |
| 13:25.18 | lxIT | E-dfg2: you can install using the sources on php.net |
| 13:25.24 | abrotman | E-dfg2: it should be .. as long as you didn't mess anything else up |
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| 13:25.30 | abrotman | lxIT: why the hell would he do that? |
| 13:25.31 | Holborn | kzar if the nvidia module exist ... maybe the problem is: no agpgart module loaded or not MTRR in kernel |
| 13:25.47 | E-dfg2 | abrotman: thanks trying.. |
| 13:25.51 | Marthijn | question: where to look if I want to install Linux from inside Windows? |
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| 13:25.56 | fevel | abrotman: When I make a fresh installation of debian the source list comes clean, how should I proceed to making a good source.list that wont brake my system? |
| 13:26.07 | charzero | Marthijn: why would you want to do that? |
| 13:26.12 | abrotman | fevel: apt-setup is a tool that helps .. |
| 13:26.28 | Marthijn | charzero: because the e-tech usb modem is not detected by the Debian root/boot disks |
| 13:26.30 | fevel | abrotman: I just copied a source list from a friend |
| 13:26.32 | PerfDave | kzar: See, Debian-provided kernel-image packages don't have crud you don't need - they're highly modular and just don't load stuff that isn't needed. And getting the closed-source nVidia kernel driver working with Debian-provided kernel-image packages is a piece of piss. So I'd suggest using a kernel-image package since you don't have any reason not to :) |
| 13:26.32 | abrotman | fevel: if you're using testing .. it's 2-3 lines |
| 13:26.35 | abrotman | fevel: you did what? |
| 13:26.53 | fevel | I cntl c cntl v the list from a friend |
| 13:26.57 | fevel | its rather huge |
| 13:27.05 | abrotman | fevel: /join #flood |
| 13:27.05 | fevel | abrotman: wanna take a look |
| 13:27.07 | fevel | ? |
| 13:27.12 | kzar | Holborn: what does MTRR stand for? |
| 13:27.15 | abrotman | fevel: /join #flood |
| 13:27.25 | azeem | memory type range register or something |
| 13:27.32 | fevel | sorry |
| 13:27.32 | abrotman | azeem: !!! |
| 13:27.39 | abrotman | !paste |
| 13:27.40 | dpkg | paste is, like, Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 13:27.53 | abrotman | azeem: why does jack hate me? |
| 13:29.20 | abrotman | !ping |
| 13:29.20 | dpkg | pong |
| 13:29.29 | abrotman | themolester: turn it off .. please |
| 13:29.31 | romany | PerfDave: just looked at Dnsmasq and I think I will go with PowerDNS or BIND. |
| 13:29.47 | PerfDave | romany: Fair enough |
| 13:29.50 | Holborn | kzar: Memory Type Range Register fix some problems .... read the readme in the nvidia driver |
| 13:30.09 | Marthijn | is there an .img with drivers for usb modem (e-tech) which I should load when installing Debian from disks? |
| 13:30.09 | abrotman | crappy client |
| 13:30.13 | azeem | abrotman: maybe you hate python, and it senses that |
| 13:30.20 | kzar | Holborn: ok thanks |
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| 13:30.27 | abrotman | azeem: nah .. not really .. but i think it's broken! |
| 13:30.35 | PerfDave | Marthijn: I think lack of USB support is a known problem with the install floppies. Can you not use a CD? |
| 13:30.39 | azeem | abrotman: what are you using for replacement_chars? |
| 13:30.47 | Marthijn | I already loaded net-drivers.img, but the e-tech usb modem is still not recognized... |
| 13:30.59 | abrotman | azeem: i was trying to replace " " with "_" .. or anything actually .. but all i would get is % |
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| 13:31.45 | azeem | # example 1: replace all " " by "_": |
| 13:31.45 | azeem | # unusable_chars = " " |
| 13:31.45 | azeem | # replacement_chars = "_" |
| 13:32.08 | abrotman | azeem: you want me to change the source? |
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| 13:32.15 | romany | bob2: bind is better documented than powerdns, isn't it? |
| 13:32.17 | abrotman | fevel: try a pastebin.com site :) |
| 13:32.24 | azeem | abrotman: well, that is from my old 2.99-based ~/.jackrc |
| 13:32.33 | fevel | abrotman: well that was nice...my connection dropped |
| 13:32.35 | azeem | abrotman: can you try adding that to ~/.jack3rc? |
| 13:32.45 | abrotman | azeem: not at home .. but i will |
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| 13:32.58 | azeem | ok |
| 13:33.08 | abrotman | azeem: i tried --unusable-chars " " --replacement-chars "_" .. it would replace the " " but not with "_" |
| 13:33.16 | abrotman | fevel: no .. your client canned you |
| 13:33.16 | azeem | hrm |
| 13:33.21 | azeem | never tried it on the command-line |
| 13:33.33 | abrotman | azeem: and i tried to escape the " " with "\ " just in case |
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| 13:33.38 | Marthijn | will the debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso support my e-tech usb modem? |
| 13:33.40 | azeem | we should add some explanation/examples to /etc/jackrc |
| 13:33.50 | fevel | abrotman: did you get an idea?? |
| 13:33.58 | abrotman | fevel: try a pastebin.com site :) |
| 13:34.23 | abrotman | azeem: i'm trying to write up a sscript for a mahcine where i would just stick the CD in and rip .. and spit out .. like a little MiniITX box |
| 13:34.29 | PerfDave | Marthijn: Probably, the CDs are big enough to fit kernels which support USB. If you wanted to be absolutely sure, you could try downloading the first full CD ISO - then you can install a minimal system and have kernel-source and make-kpkg to play with ;) |
| 13:34.33 | azeem | abrotman: cool |
| 13:35.05 | Marthijn | PerfDave: ok |
| 13:35.11 | abrotman | azeem: it seems mostly ok .. except darn spaces in filenames .. it goes against my religion :) |
| 13:35.23 | littleball | bob2, i did hexdump on the first 512 bytes. how can i know it is lilo or grub or nothing |
| 13:35.38 | azeem | I think I'll stop doing those as well, my iAudio gets the tags anyway |
| 13:35.42 | abrotman | azeem: which technically i could fix with 'rename' .. but it seems jack should be able to do it |
| 13:35.50 | azeem | yeah, it should |
| 13:36.04 | fevel | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/406449 |
| 13:36.10 | abrotman | azeem: i'll try the jackrc stuff when i get home .. thanks |
| 13:36.29 | abrotman | fevel: your friend must have one messed up system :) |
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| 13:36.50 | balrog-kun | hi there |
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| 13:37.09 | abrotman | fevel: though .. i don't see anything too bad .. do you use KDE ? |
| 13:37.17 | abrotman | and nvidia ? |
| 13:37.25 | balrog-kun | when i did apt-get install gcc it had a list of "suggested" and "recommended" packages. how do i see these lists again now? |
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| 13:37.32 | fevel | abrotman: actually I lied...I mess up the system so bad that I get shy and blame my friends |
| 13:37.39 | fevel | lol |
| 13:37.40 | abrotman | balrog-kun: apt-cache show |
| 13:37.41 | PerfDave | balrog-kun: apt-cache show gcc |
| 13:37.44 | balrog-kun | thanks |
| 13:37.46 | abrotman | fevel: hehe |
| 13:37.51 | fevel | abrotman: no I use gnome |
| 13:37.59 | abrotman | fevel: well .. you could comment out the KDE lines then |
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| 13:38.22 | fevel | abrotman: how should I proceed with a clean install?? |
| 13:38.30 | abrotman | fevel: isn't the system already installed? |
| 13:38.37 | fevel | yes |
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| 13:38.48 | fevel | but I have a pc for testing |
| 13:39.13 | abrotman | fevel: well .. if it works .. don't mess with it .. just comment out the stuff you don't need |
| 13:39.58 | fevel | abrotman: I see...but when I dist-upgraded didnt it mess up the system? |
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| 13:40.02 | E-dfg2 | What is the root password for mysql when i just installed it? |
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| 13:40.13 | E-dfg2 | nevermind guess its blank.. |
| 13:40.13 | Gathond | E-dfg2: iirc its empty |
| 13:40.16 | abrotman | fevel: not likely .. is there something wrong ? |
| 13:40.58 | fevel | abrotman: no...except the multimedia keys dont work. Is there a package for that? |
| 13:41.54 | abrotman | fevel: dunno .. i' |
| 13:42.01 | abrotman | fevel: dunno .. i've never tried to make any work :) |
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| 13:42.05 | tralala | fevel: is all that you need to have the mm keys working? |
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| 13:42.41 | fevel | tralala: yes! that is my main goal |
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| 13:43.10 | fevel | tralala: that way i can get my neighbors to use debian |
| 13:43.15 | leno | hi |
| 13:43.17 | leno | to all |
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| 13:43.47 | tralala | fevel: give lineakd a try. This is what I'm using and it's ok (could be better though) |
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| 13:45.03 | nvz | lineakd is old. hotkeys and xbindkeys are newer IIRC |
| 13:45.19 | fevel | tralala: thanks... I can get the keycode with xev |
| 13:45.33 | fevel | tralala: but dont know how to configure |
| 13:45.44 | nvz | I found xbindkeys to work better on more models and it has a graphical config where as hotkeys you have to pretty much make the xml config by hand and use xev |
| 13:46.10 | fevel | nvz: hotkeys seems nice |
| 13:46.13 | nvz | hotkeys seems to only react to half the keycode, where as xbindkeys captures both parts |
| 13:46.26 | runa_ | mm. I've a big stucture of dirs and hardlinks (created by pdumpfs) and I want to tar it, but AFAIK tar doesn't know that those are hardlinks and even if the bziped backup will have a small size, tar takes a lot taring the hardlinks as different files. So: what can I use to convert those hardlinks into symlinks? |
| 13:46.33 | tralala | fevel: with lineak there is a good chance to have the keyboard already present - you will just need to assign the funcions |
| 13:46.35 | nvz | for that reason I have had xbindkeys map certain keys that hotkeys could not |
| 13:46.38 | fevel | nvz: oh...so both of them I configure with the keycode |
| 13:46.50 | tralala | fevel: iirc there are even default assignments |
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| 13:47.08 | nvz | fevel: xbindkeys has a graphical configure tool that will grab the scancode |
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| 13:47.32 | fernando | hi all, how to define priority in /etc/apt/preferences to origin = file://// ? |
| 13:47.34 | fevel | ok...il give those 3 a try |
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| 13:48.26 | vorsprung | runa_, you could write a script that uses readlink |
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| 13:48.40 | TinoW | hi |
| 13:49.17 | runa_ | vorsprung: readlink is just for symlinks, I think |
| 13:49.40 | runa_ | vorsprung: maybe there's no easy way to know if a file is a hardlink of other? |
| 13:49.47 | tralala | runa_: are you sure you can't tell tar to recognize the hardlinks? I think there must be a switch. |
| 13:49.53 | Luftzig | hey, I seem to fucked up something really good in my X, cause it won't start no more. where do I start debuging it? |
| 13:50.10 | madclicker | need to replace in a file and instance of file " with file "/etc/bind/ in vim. Can someone helpa brother? |
| 13:50.15 | runa_ | tralala: I can't find anythin on the man or info |
| 13:50.19 | valdyn | Luftzig: in the logfile |
| 13:50.29 | vorsprung | runa_, sorry stat |
| 13:50.54 | Luftzig | valdyn: which I find where? |
| 13:50.55 | vorsprung | runa_, ln foo bar; perl -e'print ((stat(q(bar)))[3])' |
| 13:50.59 | xNinja | is it possible to write into ntfs filesystem from linux ? |
| 13:51.08 | valdyn | Luftzig: /var/log/XFree86.0.log or Xorg.0.log |
| 13:51.12 | madclicker | xNinja, nope |
| 13:51.17 | tralala | runa_: hrmm... actually maybe there isn't. You can tell if a file has hardlinks to it by the link count of the file. There should be a libc function to give you the count. |
| 13:51.18 | hotzenplotz | xNinja possible yes but not adviceable |
| 13:51.30 | madclicker | xNinja, its experimental, ms didnt reveal the code |
| 13:51.33 | runa_ | vorsprung: and comparing the inode |
| 13:51.42 | fernando | hi all, how to define priority in /etc/apt/preferences while origin = file://// ? |
| 13:52.13 | runa_ | tralala: I think I'll use one of those 'space saver' programs that remove similar files and symlink them |
| 13:52.16 | azeem | fernando: you need a Release file for that, I think |
| 13:52.55 | ism | loxley: are you there? |
| 13:52.58 | vorsprung | runa_, :) I'd have to read up on that. I never use hardlinks in the first place to avoid this kinda stuff :) |
| 13:53.05 | abrotman | azeem: if that jackrc works .. and i can't get the command line .. do you want me to file a bug? |
| 13:53.21 | azeem | yeah |
| 13:53.23 | runa_ | vorsprung: check pdumpfs, you'll love it |
| 13:53.44 | TinoW | hm. seems the sid installer (floppy) does not expect the netinstall mini.iso as installer "iso" image. What would be the correct one? |
| 13:53.58 | azeem | abrotman: of course, I'm totally slacking when it comes to jack maintenance, but maybe you're lucky and tbm picks it up :P |
| 13:54.17 | abrotman | azeem: well .. no .. you're here .. i know where to find you! |
| 13:54.22 | azeem | hrm |
| 13:54.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 13:54.46 | fernando | azeem don exists a Pin: origin *file* or a Pin: origin /my/path ? |
| 13:54.48 | abrotman | and he's in japan! or something |
| 13:54.57 | vorsprung | runa_, hmm yes :) |
| 13:54.57 | azeem | abrotman: anyway, the file is ~/.jack3rc, ~/.jackrc is only read by obsolete versions (just to make sure) |
| 13:55.00 | Luftzig | by the way, how's that i can't use anything but tty1? |
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| 13:55.15 | azeem | fernando: hrm, I really don't know much about pinning sorry |
| 13:55.23 | scanwinder | debian 3.3.5 is sarge rite? |
| 13:55.26 | abrotman | azeem: yeah .. i think the man page says .. i just thought the command line should work .. so i didn't even try the jack3rc file |
| 13:55.38 | valdyn | scanwinder: debian 3.3.5 does not exist |
| 13:55.48 | madclicker | need to replace in a file and instance of file " with file "/etc/bind/ in vim. Can someone help a brother? |
| 13:55.49 | ism | I am looking for a nice clock in X ... which one looks good, and works nice? :) |
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| 13:56.05 | Luftzig | quit |
| 13:56.13 | abrotman | xclock ? |
| 13:56.19 | abrotman | xdaliclock ? |
| 13:56.21 | h5n1 | xclock lol |
| 13:56.21 | scanwinder | valdyn: in dmesg on the comp in question its god "(Debian 1:3.3.5-12)" |
| 13:56.26 | abrotman | is xdaliclock still around ? |
| 13:56.30 | Luftzig | sorry bout that... |
| 13:56.50 | stew | !info xdaliclock |
| 13:56.50 | valdyn | scanwinder: read the whole line, this looks like gcc version |
| 13:56.51 | h5n1 | less is more |
| 13:56.57 | abrotman | haha .. |
| 13:57.09 | scanwinder | valdyn: how do i find the version of debian then? |
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| 13:57.18 | abrotman | oh yes .. i haven't used xdaliclock since i was using solaris at PSU :) |
| 13:57.24 | dpkg | xdaliclock: (Melting digital clock), section x11, is optional. Version: 2.20-1 (sid), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 13:57.32 | abrotman | ism: ^^ |
| 13:57.33 | abrotman | :) |
| 13:57.53 | valdyn | scanwinder: as long as it is a stable debian release. in /etc/debian_version |
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| 13:58.14 | abrotman | ism: and there are SOOO many options |
| 13:58.36 | Tauras | !help |
| 13:58.57 | abrotman | Tauras: /msg dpkg help |
| 13:59.03 | scanwinder | valdyn: ok is debian 3.1 sarge? |
| 13:59.11 | valdyn | scanwinder: yes |
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| 13:59.28 | Tauras | !karma |
| 13:59.29 | dpkg | tauras has neutral karma |
| 13:59.36 | Tauras | :) |
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| 13:59.51 | tarzeau | what's better centris or quadra ? |
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| 14:00.20 | nvz | I can't believe its not butter |
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| 14:01.02 | stew | tarzeau: quadra |
| 14:01.09 | nvz | thats the only testomony you are getting from me :P |
| 14:01.28 | tarzeau | nvz: heh |
| 14:01.39 | tarzeau | stew: i have both here, and i want to run debian on it |
| 14:01.40 | nvz | :) |
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| 14:01.54 | tarzeau | stew: can i install from network or must i use floppy? how much memory do i nead least? |
| 14:02.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: for m68k ? |
| 14:02.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: yep |
| 14:02.22 | abrotman | some have CD drives |
| 14:02.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: mine don't |
| 14:02.32 | stew | i have no clue, i always wanted to have a quadra to run mac os 7 on |
| 14:02.42 | stew | but that was like 13 years ago |
| 14:03.06 | stew | abrotman: which show? |
| 14:03.14 | abrotman | stew: in KoP :) |
| 14:03.19 | stew | fuck that |
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| 14:03.32 | abrotman | October 29-30 Valley Forge Convention Center, King of Prussia, PA |
| 14:03.32 | nvz | abrotman: in soviet russia, m68k is looking for YOU! |
| 14:03.32 | Ungy | my 8086 recently fried I loved that thing I had dual 5 1/4 inch drives and 8 Megs of ram on that bad boy |
| 14:03.32 | stew | if it were tsc it would have been another story maybe |
| 14:03.40 | abrotman | nvz: that's ak47 :) |
| 14:03.43 | nvz | heh |
| 14:03.44 | leOn | in a sid system, while trying to blank/write a cdrw, i get the following error "Trying to use ultra high speed+ medium on a writer which is not compatible with ultra high speed+ media." ... but CDR works like a charm ... what the hell is the problem ? |
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| 14:05.15 | tarzeau | nvz, stew, abrotman: i can't open the boxes |
| 14:05.19 | stew | my dad had like 6 macs and gave them all away when he retired instead of asking me if I wanted any of them |
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| 14:05.59 | stew | mac pandora? |
| 14:06.00 | nvz | everything opens |
| 14:06.08 | abrotman | tarzeau: why not ? |
| 14:06.22 | nvz | with enough explosives >:-) |
| 14:06.27 | abrotman | !open nvz |
| 14:06.41 | abrotman | !prise nvz |
| 14:06.54 | abrotman | nice .. the only time i call it .. it doesn't blow something up |
| 14:07.06 | abrotman | at least paulswm will be safe |
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| 14:08.01 | abrotman | ifvoid: you quote radiohead? |
| 14:08.03 | abrotman | !smack ifvoid |
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| 14:08.35 | nvz | wtf do you need 8mb ram on an 8086 for |
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| 14:08.48 | iiiears | Hello! :) FM Tuner "Cannot open /dev/radio" nothing called "radio" in /dev What is the next step? |
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| 14:09.00 | tralala | nvz: for mastering 3d maya movies |
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| 14:09.43 | tralala | I must admit that even 4MB will be enough for that, but hey - why not use 8! |
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| 14:10.19 | stew | nvz: vmware wants lots of ram |
| 14:10.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: why are you playing with an m68k ? |
| 14:10.42 | nvz | the last 8086/8 I remember having had single ram sockets one chip per socket and it maxed out at like 1 or 2mb |
| 14:11.04 | nvz | not to mention you only got two disk drives that cannot really load all that much into memory |
| 14:11.06 | iiiears | blazingly fast 4.7 mhz? |
| 14:11.18 | nvz | you know it |
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| 14:11.25 | stew | probably not a hair over 4.66 |
| 14:11.46 | iiiears | yes but they overclock well |
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| 14:12.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: it fell into my hands |
| 14:12.10 | stew | as long as you have some extra quartz lying around |
| 14:12.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: thief |
| 14:12.19 | tarzeau | !m68k |
| 14:12.19 | dpkg | hmm... m68k is Motorola 680x0 CPU family, used in Macs, Ataris, Amigas, Palm machines, older Sun workstations, and various VME bus systems. linux m68k runs on some of these, ucLinux should run on the less powerful models, or http://www.linux-m68k.org/faq/faq.html |
| 14:12.28 | g00se | No echo char in password dialog on logging into Gnome + Sarge. Bug or feature? |
| 14:12.29 | tarzeau | no irc channel for debian on m68k ? |
| 14:12.35 | iiiears | How do i put a nice /radio in my dev folder? |
| 14:12.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: apparently you just find wouter :) |
| 14:12.56 | stew | tarzeau: /msg yoe |
| 14:13.12 | stew | tarzeau: he's the one blogging about the m68k buildd's almost keeping up |
| 14:13.14 | tarzeau | stew: no such nick |
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| 14:13.37 | abrotman | tarzeau: yoe is wouter |
| 14:13.47 | tralala | g00se: xdm? |
| 14:13.56 | abrotman | wait .. |
| 14:14.08 | iiiears | Thanks guys. - Google google google... - wide grin |
| 14:14.08 | abrotman | the install manual says that in order to intsall linux .. i need MacOS ? |
| 14:14.10 | tralala | afair, xdm doesn't echo the pass |
| 14:14.16 | roanbrasil | I need to help |
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| 14:14.27 | roanbrasil | My sound dont WORK |
| 14:14.28 | g00se | tralala: embarassingly - not sure ;-) |
| 14:14.33 | roanbrasil | my sound dont work |
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| 14:14.44 | abrotman | doesn't |
| 14:14.50 | abrotman | !br |
| 14:14.51 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:14.53 | tralala | g00se: just install gdm. xdm is ugly anyway |
| 14:15.02 | roanbrasil | help me.. my sound dont work |
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| 14:15.16 | g00se | tralala: is xdm the default? |
| 14:15.18 | dpower | roanbrasil: try being more specific perhaps |
| 14:15.20 | stew | roanbrasil: what have you tried? what card? what driver? what kernel? |
| 14:15.21 | abrotman | doesn't |
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| 14:15.41 | dpower | haha,abrotman |
| 14:15.51 | tralala | g00se: errm... not sure. aptitude search ~i^[xkg]dm |
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| 14:16.07 | poison | Hi all, I've a question about mdadm |
| 14:16.16 | g00se | tralala: thanks |
| 14:16.32 | poison | When I use the standard kernel the rebuilding of my raid array goes extremely fast, but with my custom kernel, it goes slow as hell |
| 14:16.34 | poison | any ideas? |
| 14:16.45 | stew | poison: use a standard kernel |
| 14:16.55 | tralala | !debian kernel image |
| 14:16.55 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
| 14:16.55 | poison | stew: the standard kernel doesn't support TUX |
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| 14:17.25 | stew | poison: what is TUX? |
| 14:17.35 | dpower | !tux |
| 14:17.35 | dpkg | i heard tux is a cute cuddly penguin. Worship him. the logo of Linux, or the linux logo because once, while on vacation in the southern hemisphere, Linus Torvalds was bitten on the hand by a penguin! |
| 14:17.45 | Marthijn | ehm, I burned a Debian install CD, but when booting it tells me: boot checksum failed |
| 14:17.48 | poison | a kernelbased http server (aka redhat content accelerator) |
| 14:17.55 | roanbrasil | dpower, it is debian br cdd |
| 14:17.59 | Marthijn | what does that mean? |
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| 14:18.32 | poison | it's really great but therefore I need to patch my kernels. Well I've never had any problems with my custom kernels until now (I'm playing with software raid 1) |
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| 14:18.52 | azeem | poison: didn't they remove khttpd from the kernel again because they acknowledged the idea was crackful? |
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| 14:19.13 | poison | azeem: possible but tux works great for me and I really need it ;) |
| 14:19.22 | Marthijn | anyone? ehm, I burned a Debian install CD, but when booting it tells me: boot checksum failed |
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| 14:19.41 | azeem | Marthijn: did you check the md5sum? |
| 14:19.43 | valdyn | azeem: + some userspace httpd was even faster |
| 14:19.46 | tralala | poison: debian kernel + redhat patches + ubuntu packages... the wide way to hell |
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| 14:19.51 | dpower | marcels: the copy is probably not complete |
| 14:19.56 | dpower | Marthijn: * |
| 14:20.04 | poison | tralala: I'm using the patches for about 5 months now and I never had any problems |
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| 14:20.23 | tralala | poison: but now you have, don't you? |
| 14:20.25 | poison | these patches are the reason my I must use custom made kernels, there's nothing wrong with the patches ) |
| 14:20.26 | sebest_ | is there no way to have the true pure-ftpd daemon without this pure-ftpd-wrapper? |
| 14:20.34 | Marthijn | azeem: ehm... no? |
| 14:20.45 | poison | s/my/why/ |
| 14:21.02 | azeem | Marthijn: well, it's most probably a uncomplete download or a bad burn, I'd say |
| 14:21.14 | poison | the only thing is I'm new to software raid and I figured that recovery of my array is extremely slow on my custom kernel |
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| 14:21.30 | Marthijn | azeem: strange, because the data is all on the CD as far as I can see... |
| 14:21.46 | poison | on the standard kernel it takes 15 minutes and on my custom kernel it takes +700 minutes to complete |
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| 14:22.30 | poison | the standard kernel uses an initrd image for the raid drivers (md) and my custom kernel has them in it, so could that be the problem? |
| 14:22.47 | stew | Marthijn: did you burn it with nero? |
| 14:22.53 | Marthijn | stew: yes |
| 14:23.03 | tralala | poison: the think about compiling your own kernel is that you end up with sort of unique setup and then no one is able to figure out where your problems are coming from |
| 14:23.26 | stew | it seems like whenever someone comes along with a good download and a bad burn, they used nero. dunno if that is just because nero is so prevalant or what |
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| 14:23.33 | tralala | s/think/thing/ |
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| 14:23.54 | poison | yeah, that's true. but it was possible that there were some known problems with raid and custom kernels :) |
| 14:24.04 | Marthijn | stew: or, maybe everyone just uses nero... ;-) |
| 14:24.13 | poison | I think I'll have to analyze the .config of the standard kernel and compare it against my custom one |
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| 14:24.21 | stew | Marthijn: yeah, thats what i meant about the prevalant bit |
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| 14:25.20 | tralala | poison: yes, but redhat patches + debian patches... sound like a receipt for troubles or #kernel-debian-redhat-mesh |
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| 14:26.06 | poison | well it's not a specific redhat patch, it's only developped by some guy who's website is located at people.redhat.com :):):) |
| 14:26.10 | poison | hehe |
| 14:26.23 | poison | I'll try it without the TUX patch |
| 14:26.33 | poison | and see if it makes any difference |
| 14:27.01 | tralala | poison: did you change any of the (debian) kernel settings at configure time? |
| 14:27.08 | poison | if it really is the tux patch I'll curse the damn redhat forever |
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| 14:27.39 | poison | tralala: I've started from a vanilla kernel and enabled the things I really need |
| 14:27.40 | stew | curse them anyway! |
| 14:27.47 | poison | hehe |
| 14:27.58 | tralala | oh... |
| 14:28.14 | tralala | well, try a debian kernel + debian config + the patch |
| 14:28.27 | lu5t | I've dist-upgraded to unstable.. I want to install Azureus through aptitude, but it says "sun-j2re1.5 [UNAVAILABE]" ... how do I retrieve and install this manually? or better yet, why is it not part of a non-free or contrib repository? |
| 14:28.37 | h5n1 | ^_^ |
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| 14:28.54 | azeem | lu5t: because we do not have the right to redistribute it |
| 14:29.11 | poison | oh I also use the openwall patches |
| 14:29.12 | resiak | !tell lu5t -about java |
| 14:29.42 | lu5t | thanks |
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| 14:30.17 | tralala | poison: you like living at the edge, don't you? |
| 14:30.25 | stew | lu5t: you can install it from debian-unofficial.org |
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| 14:31.04 | poison | tralala: LOL what's wrong with them? |
| 14:32.16 | tralala | poison: there is nothing wrong with the various kernel patches. The idea of applying 3rd party patches to the kernel on the other hand... |
| 14:32.49 | tralala | especially when it is for no obvious reasons (read httpd) |
| 14:33.32 | versuchsanstalt | where do i find the list of dpkg's factoids? |
| 14:33.41 | tralala | anyway, don't let me ruin the pleasure of patching your kernel |
| 14:34.11 | tralala | !my factoids |
| 14:34.11 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://vireo.org/~stew/dpkg/ |
| 14:34.20 | poison | well, apache couldn't handle my requests any more :( |
| 14:34.20 | versuchsanstalt | i see, thank you. |
| 14:34.45 | poison | boa also had difficulties with it |
| 14:34.53 | poison | and tux seems to handle them very well |
| 14:35.32 | tralala | you need to ask yourself if the http server is the real bottleneck of your setup |
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| 14:36.13 | __doc__ | hey, some process on my machine is running amok cpu-wise, but top isn't showing the maldooer. Any ideas how I could track it down? |
| 14:36.14 | poison | well actually I think it is because it works fine with tux. I saw a performance gain when I switched to boa and I saw even a bigger gain when I switched to tux |
| 14:36.52 | tralala | poison: this is hardly a reliable benchmark |
| 14:37.35 | poison | true but I think I'm really fine with my current configurations |
| 14:37.44 | versuchsanstalt | i have lost the at-sign on a german language system, in X only. i can produce the pipe sign. where should a clueless man like me start to understand the problem? |
| 14:38.05 | poison | dual xeon 3.0 with 3 gig ram and 15k rpm's scsi's |
| 14:38.10 | poison | I don't know how I should benchmark it |
| 14:38.11 | CosmoDad | I've copied an entire linux partition using rsync from host A to B. B's grub obviously still believes, however, that A's drive layout exists, as it writes A's hda7 into menu.lst instead of hda1. How can I update this? |
| 14:38.12 | tralala | __doc__: unless you've been pwn3d the top will show the reason as long as it's not the kernel itself |
| 14:38.32 | stew | poison: damn, and how much web traffic is this thing actually serving that you need something faster than apache? |
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| 14:39.03 | petemc | a lot of the busiest servers in the world run apache |
| 14:39.04 | poison | +2.000.000 pageviews/day with +40 images per page |
| 14:39.06 | __doc__ | tralala: but the mainload seems to be in CPU%: 100% us 0.0% sy |
| 14:39.21 | __doc__ | tralala: but no process shown then below amounts to this load |
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| 14:39.45 | stew | poison: why not just throw more hardware at the problem? |
| 14:39.45 | tralala | __doc__: did you sort the processes by cpu usage? |
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| 14:39.51 | __doc__ | tralala: yes |
| 14:40.40 | tralala | poison: static pages only? |
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| 14:41.10 | __doc__ | tralala: I also did top in S and then T to see if time accumulated massivley on some process, but that wasn't the case either |
| 14:41.24 | poison | tralala: my dynamic pages are loadbalanced via round-robin dns on two apache servers, I'm talking about my static content indeed |
| 14:41.34 | tralala | __doc__: so it's either something wrong with the kernel (hw problem, bug) or there is a process that wouldn't like to be seen |
| 14:42.05 | yoav | back again... any chance I'll get some help saving me poor X server? |
| 14:42.29 | tralala | poison: so why not load balance the static pages as well? |
| 14:43.12 | lu5t | !tell lu5t about-nforce2 |
| 14:43.24 | poison | damn I think the debian config must have something I don't have because it's again slow as hell with my own kernel without patches |
| 14:43.26 | tralala | __doc__: or another reason that I'm not aware of |
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| 14:43.51 | poison | tralala: that will be the next step I'm afraid |
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| 14:44.24 | tralala | poison: This should probably be the first one, and patching the kernel the last |
| 14:44.24 | grendal_prime | ok...im compleatly confused by this sound problem..i have tried everything...is there anyone out there that understands oss /dev/dsp ? |
| 14:45.17 | tralala | grendal_prime: could you, please, be more specific? |
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| 14:45.39 | grendal_prime | i have a program its X-plane..its a flight simulator..works really good. Sound on it is absolutly wonderfull. i have a module that runs in it called squawkbox |
| 14:46.08 | grendal_prime | it is so i can talk via a voip type deal with online practicing air traffic controllers |
| 14:46.15 | grendal_prime | the mic will not work... |
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| 14:46.36 | Luftzig | whois |
| 14:47.06 | grendal_prime | not with this squawkbox anyway... now i know the hardware works because i can set up audacity and record sound...other apps like krecord also work |
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| 14:48.07 | coreyo | My previous SSH session timed out while I was doing a dist-upgrade. Now it's telling me that /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process. How do I unlock it manually? |
| 14:48.16 | grendal_prime | im using debian testing, and this is a dell inspiron 1100 |
| 14:48.26 | tralala | grendal_prime: sounds like a setup problem of the game |
| 14:48.55 | grendal_prime | well the game only reads..."your hardware is not configured properly" |
| 14:49.10 | grendal_prime | gives no more infomation than that |
| 14:49.13 | Luftzig | well, as I was saying, and I will appreciate some response, any response, mt Xserver refuses to start. the log of Xorg says there's no mouse, which seems wierd, as used this mouse few hours ago |
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| 14:49.40 | tralala | coreyo: maybe the dist-upgrade is still running |
| 14:49.56 | versuchsanstalt | coreyo: is the upgrade process still running? |
| 14:50.02 | tralala | in this case you need to wait until it's ready |
| 14:50.05 | a1fa | anybody got a diff file between ubuntu stable and debian stable? |
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| 14:50.35 | coreyo | yes it was, I just killed it |
| 14:50.46 | coreyo | but it's still not unlocked |
| 14:51.00 | tralala | check for dpkg processes |
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| 14:51.43 | tralala | grendal_prime: check the game faq, mailing lists, forums etc |
| 14:51.57 | a1fa | anybody got a diff file between ubuntu stable and debian stable? |
| 14:52.06 | a1fa | i am interested in base vs. base |
| 14:52.07 | tralala | a1fa: no |
| 14:52.14 | a1fa | tralala : base vs. base? |
| 14:52.21 | tralala | nope sorry |
| 14:52.21 | grendal_prime | tralala, ive even talked to the guy who ported it directly...he desnt know |
| 14:52.24 | a1fa | what happens if u use both trees in sources.lst |
| 14:52.28 | a1fa | and you run upgrade |
| 14:52.35 | jbroome | a black hole opens up |
| 14:52.51 | coreyo | yep, there was a perl script and a dpk-reconfigure process running. Killing those seemed to do the trick. Thanks |
| 14:53.00 | tralala | grendal_prime: oh... I guess you're out of luck then |
| 14:53.03 | a1fa | jbroome : does it? |
| 14:53.08 | grendal_prime | yep...screwed |
| 14:53.10 | a1fa | jbroome : i call complete chaos :P |
| 14:53.12 | grendal_prime | bummer |
| 14:53.43 | tralala | a1fa: maybe you'll end up with broken os |
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| 14:54.02 | a1fa | yeah |
| 14:54.07 | a1fa | thats what I am thinking too |
| 14:54.14 | tralala | AND neither debian nor ubunto will be able to help |
| 14:54.14 | a1fa | this asshole in the cube behind me |
| 14:54.25 | a1fa | tells me he uses two package treese |
| 14:54.27 | a1fa | ubuntu and debian |
| 14:54.36 | a1fa | i tell him to eat a dick |
| 14:54.39 | a1fa | ahahah |
| 14:54.49 | a1fa | and then he shows me.. downloads a nmap package manually and installs it |
| 14:54.49 | a1fa | :P |
| 14:55.01 | a1fa | thats does not clasify as using two package trees |
| 14:55.02 | a1fa | with apt |
| 14:55.06 | a1fa | what a dipshit |
| 14:55.15 | jbroome | this is an awesome narrative |
| 14:55.18 | a1fa | thanks :P |
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| 14:55.20 | a1fa | he is a idck |
| 14:55.32 | tralala | a1fa: don't take it too personally |
| 14:55.36 | a1fa | i didnt |
| 14:55.40 | a1fa | but then he started calling me names |
| 14:55.49 | a1fa | and telling me i dont know jack :P |
| 14:55.53 | a1fa | and telling me to leave his cube |
| 14:55.54 | a1fa | hahah |
| 14:55.55 | tralala | !comfort a1fa |
| 14:55.58 | dpkg | There, there, a1fa. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 14:55.59 | a1fa | gracias |
| 14:55.59 | a1fa | :P |
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| 14:56.39 | dpower | a1fa: try typing more then 3 words before hitting enter |
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| 14:56.53 | a1fa | dpower : i got low band keyboard.. it only takes 3 words per line :P |
| 14:57.00 | dpower | heh |
| 14:57.02 | petemc | didnt that time |
| 14:57.10 | HandyAndE | ARGH - since I just upgraded to testing my LDAP auth (pam and also libnss) has stoppped working |
| 14:57.11 | Kalidarn | if whats the most unstable debian distribution, etch or ? |
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| 14:57.13 | HandyAndE | any ideas |
| 14:57.14 | a1fa | dpower : well.. i just overclocked it to 27mhz :P |
| 14:57.16 | HandyAndE | this is sooo annoyinh |
| 14:57.21 | Kalidarn | i cna't remember the other one's name ;p |
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| 14:57.27 | jbroome | slink? |
| 14:57.27 | petemc | Kalidarn: sid |
| 14:57.30 | jbroome | crap |
| 14:57.31 | Kalidarn | oh yes |
| 14:57.33 | Kalidarn | lol i must be tired |
| 14:57.36 | Kalidarn | ;p duh |
| 14:57.46 | jbroome | i must be two or three years in the past |
| 14:57.49 | petemc | HandyAndE: check the bts |
| 14:58.06 | HandyAndE | petemc: ? |
| 14:58.21 | petemc | HandyAndE: what part didnt you understand? |
| 14:58.32 | HandyAndE | petemc: not heard "bts" in this context |
| 14:58.36 | tralala | experimental? |
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| 14:58.43 | azeem | HandyAndE: bugs.debian.org, the Debian Bug Tracking System |
| 14:58.48 | a1fa | apt give some love |
| 14:58.51 | petemc | HandyAndE: bug traching syste, bugs.debian.org |
| 14:58.51 | HandyAndE | sorry |
| 14:58.54 | HandyAndE | I did not see anything there |
| 14:59.04 | HandyAndE | was just wondering if anyone had experienced a similar thing... |
| 14:59.24 | azeem | HandyAndE: could be tricky to find the right package for the bug |
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| 15:00.00 | tralala | HandyAndE: I'm generally avoiding to fix (upgrade) working systems. Maybe you should as well. |
| 15:00.04 | a1fa | ubuntu is debian's gay cousin |
| 15:00.14 | petemc | HandyAndE: you checked the bts already? |
| 15:00.43 | HandyAndE | tralala: I had to upgrade for tomct was buggy in stable |
| 15:01.01 | petemc | ! |
| 15:01.23 | tralala | HandyAndE: if it was buggy in stable how much more buggy it will be elsewhere? |
| 15:02.03 | HandyAndE | no - you see it was a tomcat bug |
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| 15:02.21 | HandyAndE | fixed in etch, but now my LDAP stuff is hosed |
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| 15:02.46 | nakeee | hwo do I change system wide configuration in gnome? |
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| 15:03.03 | nakeee | I want the default mail client to be thunderbird and now it's evolution |
| 15:03.33 | chealer | !tell a1fa about gay |
| 15:03.34 | tralala | usually the cycle is: you run stable -> you find a bug -> you reoprt it -> it gets fixed -> you upgrade from security -> you're done |
| 15:03.42 | bintut | how can i enable att605 keymap on my ssh-client? or, what ssh client or f/oss terminal emulator that supports att605 keys? |
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| 15:03.59 | dragonetti | Hello everyone I am a linux ultra noob and going to install debian. How big (GB) must a partition be for a debian install? |
| 15:04.10 | abrotman | tralala: only for security/critical/grave |
| 15:04.20 | dragonetti | I am going to install on a notebook first |
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| 15:04.53 | Kalidarn | grr |
| 15:04.55 | Kalidarn | openoffice.org-writer: |
| 15:04.55 | Kalidarn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:05.10 | chealer | Kalidarn, what release? |
| 15:05.13 | Kalidarn | where do i get damn python-uno (apt-get.org shows no mention of it whatsoever) |
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| 15:05.24 | Kalidarn | ;) sid i need iot to install OpenOffice 2.0.0.1 |
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| 15:05.33 | PerfDave | dragonetti: Depending on quite how much stuff you want to install... it can be as little as 250Mb, I'd say you'd want ~2Gb for a full-featured desktop system. |
| 15:06.00 | Kalidarn | ;) and im actually running ubuntu :P if i can fix that one dependency every think should work out lovely. |
| 15:06.02 | dragonetti | Yes PerfDave I want a full-featured desktop system for now |
| 15:06.06 | PerfDave | dragonetti: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 15:06.19 | dragonetti | So 9GB should be enough...? |
| 15:06.22 | PerfDave | Kalidarn: If you're running Ubuntu, ask #ubuntu for help, they use different packages. |
| 15:06.28 | PerfDave | dragonetti: Yes, 9Gb should be fine. |
| 15:06.37 | Kalidarn | lol ;) im using debian ones and they do actually work |
| 15:06.39 | Kalidarn | fine :P |
| 15:06.46 | Kalidarn | they scab yours ;P |
| 15:06.58 | Zifnab | anyone familiar with bacula? |
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| 15:07.02 | dragonetti | Thank you PerfDave! I am logging of now to begin my journy into Linux. Thanks again PerfDave |
| 15:07.12 | PerfDave | Kalidarn: Mixing packages between Debian and Ubuntu is not a good idea unless you know what you're doing, and it's not reasonable of you to expect either #debian or #ubuntu to be able to assist you with a cobbled system. |
| 15:07.19 | Kalidarn | ah found it |
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| 15:07.22 | chealer | Kalidarn, there's no such thing as OOo 2.0.0.1 |
| 15:07.23 | abrotman | !bunnicula Zifnab |
| 15:07.33 | Kalidarn | PerfDave: ive done it craploads of times :P |
| 15:07.40 | resiak | abrotman: :/ |
| 15:07.43 | Kalidarn | i aint a ubuntu newbie although i use ubuntu over debian ;) |
| 15:07.47 | nakeee | OOo 2.0.1 is going to be out soon though |
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| 15:07.55 | Roey | nakeee: on debian? |
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| 15:07.56 | azeem | Kalidarn: you are free to do so, but do not expect support |
| 15:07.57 | Roey | hee hee |
| 15:08.05 | azeem | Roey: ? |
| 15:08.06 | Kalidarn | lol i dont expect any |
| 15:08.11 | Zifnab | ty abrotman, but I am looking for some help |
| 15:08.17 | Kalidarn | especially with experimental packages lol |
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| 15:08.24 | PerfDave | Kalidarn: That's fine, but don't tell people that you're running sid if you're not, and don't ask for help here. |
| 15:08.25 | nakeee | Roey, no idea when it woudl be in debian, you can use experimental |
| 15:08.26 | GutterPunk | Hi |
| 15:08.28 | azeem | Kalidarn: well, talking in here implies you are, unless you answer other people's questions |
| 15:08.32 | SilentBob | http://pastebin.com/406545 <--- glxinfo / fglrxinfo / packages installed / kernel version |
| 15:08.33 | SilentBob | http://pastebin.com/406546 <-- xorg.conf |
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| 15:08.46 | Roey | nakeee: I'd like to see Python scripting for OpenOffice (including signaling for running oo.o processes, so that I can query open documents remotely, save them, etc. -- like DCOP with kde apps) |
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| 15:08.54 | azeem | openoffice.org-2.0.0 is unstable |
| 15:08.54 | Ungy | how do I mount a floppy? |
| 15:08.57 | azeem | +in |
| 15:09.06 | SilentBob | I did modprobe fglrx. And it loaded fine. It's just fglrxinfo shows the mesa libraries and not the ati ones. |
| 15:09.06 | Kalidarn | ;) i now know where to get it lol :) |
| 15:09.13 | PerfDave | Ungy: mount /media/floppy will probably do it. |
| 15:09.17 | GutterPunk | Little question, what steps should I take to install a 2.6 kernel on debian 3.1? Plenty of howtos, but they are all woody |
| 15:09.33 | nakeee | Roey, I'd like to see oo starting to behave like an opensource project and become modular and easy to integrade with other apps |
| 15:09.34 | stew | GutterPunk: what cpu do you have? |
| 15:09.34 | ryanar1 | GutterPunk: need a customer kernel? |
| 15:09.36 | resiak | GutterPunk: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6, pick one, apt-get install it |
| 15:09.39 | PerfDave | GutterPunk: "apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6" and instal lone. |
| 15:09.39 | Kalidarn | mixing and matching packages is easier than actually compiling openoffice.org from the TGZ |
| 15:09.46 | tralala | Ungy: have a look at autofs to avoid manually (un)mounting devices |
| 15:09.48 | nakeee | Roey, oo2 now is where xfree were 5 years ago |
| 15:09.53 | GutterPunk | stew: 200Mhz :) But I need the Via Rhine 3 drivers |
| 15:09.53 | Kalidarn | so long as you get all of "that program" from the same repo |
| 15:10.01 | stew | GutterPunk: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 15:10.07 | Kalidarn | and there arent any "big red packages that whinge and whine" then everything works fine |
| 15:10.26 | ryanar1 | by the way they've changed the kernel package names post 2.6.11, it is now linux-image |
| 15:10.31 | GutterPunk | That's it?? |
| 15:10.31 | Ungy | ok now that it is mouted how do I acess it? |
| 15:10.36 | stew | GutterPunk: thats it |
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| 15:10.43 | ryanar1 | GutterPunk yup, super easy |
| 15:10.44 | abrotman | Zifnab: what about bacula do you need help with? |
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| 15:10.54 | GutterPunk | And what about a custom kernel? Is it just the same as with 2.4? Make-kpkg? |
| 15:11.04 | abrotman | !kp |
| 15:11.04 | dpkg | from memory, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
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| 15:11.09 | Roey | nakeee: hehe |
| 15:11.12 | ryanar1 | GutterPunk: yup, make-kpkg |
| 15:11.13 | Roey | nakeee: what do you mean? |
| 15:11.24 | tralala | but, /msg dpkg debian kernel image |
| 15:11.35 | PerfDave | GutterPunk: Yes, though there's rarely any need to hand-compile a kernel. If you think you need to do so, check here first, chances are that you really don't. |
| 15:11.35 | Roey | nakeee: I find oo.o annoying and bloated for what it does, honestly |
| 15:11.45 | GutterPunk | Alright thanks :) Sorry for questions like this but it gets frustrating to know the works with every distro... |
| 15:12.11 | WoodsDog | i'm running debian, and I am upgrading the kernel manually on an amd64 machine. I am using i38 install, and I want to have the latest kernel. What CPU type should I choose? AM64? Athlon? i386 comat? |
| 15:12.17 | ryanar1 | GutterPunk: PerfDave is right, generally at most you simply need to build an external driver against the kernel-headers. |
| 15:12.18 | GutterPunk | PerfDave: I'm used to kernels with only what I need in them |
| 15:12.36 | PerfDave | GutterPunk: Debian kernels only have what you need in them. They're highly modular and don't load anything you don't need. |
| 15:13.00 | GutterPunk | ryanar1: how does that work? I usually just recompile the kernel for everything I might need |
| 15:13.02 | sbk | CosmoDad: why not just update menu.lst with a text editor with the new location? |
| 15:13.16 | tralala | + when you come to need something you didn't need so far, you don't have to compile again |
| 15:13.26 | azeem | GutterPunk: there comes a time when you are tired of compiling your own kernels, and just crave for ones that just work[tm] |
| 15:13.34 | PerfDave | WoodsDog: How are you upgrading the kernel? With "apt-get install kernel-image-$SOMETHING"? |
| 15:13.38 | TinoW | azeem: amen |
| 15:13.39 | azeem | unless you're a kernel hacker, of course |
| 15:13.57 | PerfDave | Plus if you use Debian-provided kernel-images you get security support, which is a big advantage. |
| 15:14.05 | azeem | *cough* |
| 15:14.09 | WoodsDog | PerfDave: no, ncftp ftp.kernel.org and going from there |
| 15:14.11 | ryanar1 | azeem I'm a kernel-hacker and I tell you, building kernels still gets tiring. |
| 15:14.20 | azeem | I can imagine |
| 15:14.46 | GutterPunk | PerfDave: Alright thanks a lot. |
| 15:14.51 | torc | is there really any point in running hyperthreading enabled on a 2 CPU system? |
| 15:14.54 | PerfDave | WoodsDog: If you don't know what CPU type to choose when manually compiling, I'd *strongly* recommend using a Debian kernel-image package. |
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| 15:15.06 | ryanar1 | anyone know of a way to get make-kpkg to use the -j option? |
| 15:15.23 | valdyn | SilentBob: please paste the output of 'strace -eopen glxinfo' both, run as user and run as root |
| 15:15.26 | WoodsDog | PerfDave: thanks...I'm just wondering if one will perform better than the other |
| 15:15.27 | cahoot | CONCURRENCY_LEVEL? |
| 15:15.29 | stew | ryanar1: man make-kpkg you want the CUNCURRENT_somthing env var |
| 15:15.34 | stew | err |
| 15:16.02 | tralala | torc: hyperthreading helps or hurts depending on the situation, so the answer is: maybe |
| 15:16.11 | PerfDave | WoodsDog: Hand-compiled kernels will only be faster than Debian-provided kernels if you really know what you're doing, and even then rarely faster enough to be worth the effort. |
| 15:16.26 | ryanar1 | thanks stew |
| 15:16.35 | stew | ryanar1: thank cahoot he can spel |
| 15:16.37 | WoodsDog | PerfDave: that's probably true. |
| 15:16.51 | torc | tralala: this one is for running several big processes, so those might be distributed across 4 cpus somewhat better, than between 2. |
| 15:16.59 | valdyn | WoodsDog: there's not a whole lot one can do to 'optimise' kernels beyond what debian already does. |
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| 15:17.46 | nakeee | Roey, xfree has a monolithic tree, so if they depended on expact or tcl they would import the whole expact tree to the xfree one |
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| 15:18.12 | SilentBob | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/406589 <-- command as root. |
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| 15:18.22 | nakeee | Roey, it just doesn't behave like healthy opensource project but like a company project which are nice to give you the source |
| 15:18.30 | SilentBob | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/406594 <-- command as user running X |
| 15:18.46 | hagbard | Hi, I have a mail server running postfix/uwimap/uwpop3 and I want to transition to courier. I want to do the transition by installing courier and running it on temporary ports while I test it, before I do the switchover. Unfortunately, debian will not let me install courier because it conflicts with postfix, etc. Does anyone have a suggestion? |
| 15:18.47 | tralala | torc: they might... or not. If you want to know the answer you'll have to carefully benchmark the programme with and without HT. If it's worthed the efforts, that is. |
| 15:18.48 | azeem | nakeee: how many engineers work on oo at Novell? |
| 15:18.50 | valdyn | SilentBob: please.. dont use su, use sux or sudo, if glxinfo wouldnt run, the output is of no use |
| 15:19.16 | azeem | nakeee: barely enough to care for GNOME integration and improving the build system gradually |
| 15:19.27 | torc | tralala: if HP has it enabled by default for that 2cpu system. should i just leave it as is? :) |
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| 15:19.32 | azeem | I don't think they could really advance OOo as a whole |
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| 15:19.44 | GutterPunk | shouldn't I edit my sources list or something? |
| 15:19.51 | GutterPunk | There's no 2.6 kernel, only 2.4 |
| 15:20.05 | SilentBob | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/406597 |
| 15:20.09 | SilentBob | that is as sux |
| 15:20.10 | GutterPunk | shit sorry np |
| 15:20.16 | ryanar1 | GutterPunk when was the last time you did an apt-get update? |
| 15:20.23 | nakeee | azeem, oo scares away developers, if someone would make it nice and modular more people would show intrest |
| 15:20.25 | ryanar1 | two years ago? ;-) |
| 15:20.40 | valdyn | !sux |
| 15:20.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root: http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about.", or apt-get install sux, or something that anyone who spells "sucks" as "sux" does. |
| 15:20.41 | tralala | torc: err... yes, I suppose |
| 15:20.47 | azeem | nakeee: well, you know how many years it took to make X modular, right? |
| 15:20.52 | GutterPunk | ryanar1: 3.1 ain't that old ;) |
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| 15:20.59 | torc | tralala: the only problem is to balance irqs to the right processors, right? :) |
| 15:21.06 | hotzenplotz | has anybody installed awstats package by using apt-get ? it seems i could not go through the config really right:( need this or some other tool to analyze the logs produced by vsftpd |
| 15:21.07 | nakeee | azeem, they said exactly that about xorg fork that it would die in no time because of lack of developers and see once it became into healthy foss project more and more developers are joining in |
| 15:21.24 | torc | tralala: and its better to assign gigabit NIC and RAID atapted to separate IRQs? |
| 15:21.27 | GutterPunk | ryanar1: I've just got so much to do and all this is stressing me out :) I am not thinking clearly... it's there :) |
| 15:21.31 | PerfDave | X is modular? :) |
| 15:21.39 | nakeee | azeem, 2 years after it got out of the hands of xfree |
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| 15:21.56 | jackd | gday to all.. |
| 15:22.13 | valdyn | SilentBob: ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so |
| 15:22.15 | azeem | nakeee: uhm, most hackers at x.org either did earlier versions of X or were involved with XFree86 as well |
| 15:22.37 | tralala | torc: why don't you have a look at anandtech.com. They have some benchmarks of HT vs no HT. You will also get a better idea of the variables involved in the benchmarking. |
| 15:22.44 | SilentBob | silentbob@debian:~$ ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so |
| 15:22.44 | SilentBob | ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so: Permission denied |
| 15:22.56 | torc | tralala: thx. and what do you think about IRQs? |
| 15:22.58 | nakeee | azeem, they were mostly involved outside working on dri now they work on the core of X as well |
| 15:22.59 | valdyn | SilentBob: as root then |
| 15:23.14 | valdyn | SilentBob: i do wonder though how those permissions got fucked up |
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| 15:23.36 | tralala | torc: I really don't know. I haven't had the chance to fire up a SMP debian yet. |
| 15:23.39 | SilentBob | root@debian:~# ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so |
| 15:23.40 | SilentBob | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8591628 2005-10-26 05:09 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so |
| 15:23.47 | nakeee | azeem, not to mention all the nvidia/qt/other companies people who show sudden intrest |
| 15:23.50 | torc | tralala: ok. thx for all the info. |
| 15:23.56 | nakeee | azeem, that why we have exa all the sudden;) |
| 15:23.57 | tralala | np |
| 15:23.58 | Kalidarn | http://packages.debian.org/experimental/python/python-uno , that belongs to "sid main restricted" doesn't it? |
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| 15:24.21 | foo | If I apt-get install something, and I want to remove it because I don't need it ... how do I remove that package and all other packages that were installed with it? |
| 15:24.37 | jackd | question regarding firewall (iptables) setup config, can anyone help me? |
| 15:24.49 | Kalidarn | use firestarter jackd |
| 15:24.59 | Kalidarn | :) thats what i used, console annoyed me too much |
| 15:25.09 | tralala | foo: aptitude purge should take care of the auto dependancies. If not, you could try deborphan. |
| 15:25.20 | kzar | Ok I checked and I have MMTRR and agpgart built into my kernel, and just to make sure I recompiled the kernel, installed it, rebooted, compiled the nvidia module, installed it, rebooted. But when I start x it still complains that "Module nvidia not found.". Now I'm stuck. |
| 15:25.41 | jackd | okay, the firewall has got sarge with console (no gui) and want to remotely configure it.. firestarter the best |
| 15:25.41 | PerfDave | kzar: Use a Debian kernel-image already. |
| 15:25.49 | valdyn | SilentBob: sec |
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| 15:26.05 | foo | tralala: aptitude purge package ? |
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| 15:26.36 | kzar | PerfDave: I looked into that and I couldn't see a ready built nvidia module for my proccessor + I don't want to use a ready made image as I'l probably have to recompile it at some point anyway. Please stop telling me to use that |
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| 15:26.52 | valdyn | SilentBob: ok, your permissions on one of the parent directories are fucked up so it seems |
| 15:27.04 | valdyn | SilentBob: so check permissions on those parent dirs |
| 15:27.04 | PerfDave | kzar: You don't need a ready-built nvidia module, you use module-assistant. |
| 15:27.15 | tralala | foo: yes |
| 15:27.24 | PerfDave | kzar: I'm just trying to help you get your nVidia working, if you don't like my advice, feel free to ignore it :) |
| 15:27.26 | jackd | Kalidarn: tried shorewall but not really impressed with it.. |
| 15:27.29 | valdyn | SilentBob: like: ls -l /usr /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/ | grep dri |
| 15:27.45 | Kalidarn | jackd: i saw shorewall but i didnt try it try firestarter |
| 15:27.48 | Kalidarn | its a nice little one |
| 15:28.00 | beardy | jackd: firehol, or learn iptables |
| 15:28.23 | Kalidarn | whats wrong with gui? |
| 15:28.27 | jackd | k-darn: beardy: thanks guys!! |
| 15:28.42 | tralala | I found shorewall rather difficult to learn (given that I already know iptables) |
| 15:28.44 | beardy | Kalidarn: He said he hadn't got any. |
| 15:28.46 | jackd | k-darn: nothing, on server that has none installed. |
| 15:29.08 | Kalidarn | ah okay |
| 15:29.23 | Kalidarn | so your using it in s server purpose well that makes things different |
| 15:29.38 | jackd | k-darn: is firestarter part of deb pkgs list? |
| 15:29.46 | PerfDave | I figure that learning iptables is always best, so you can understand what firestarter et al. are doing anyway. |
| 15:29.47 | Kalidarn | probably dont have x eithr |
| 15:29.51 | Zifnab | saorry for the delay abrotman, boss walked in and had to chat\ |
| 15:30.04 | abrotman | Zifnab: did you smack him ? |
| 15:30.06 | valdyn | kzar: why do you think X 'module' complaint would be about a kernel module? |
| 15:30.14 | Zifnab | I did worse |
| 15:30.26 | Zifnab | I refused to let him have any of my coffee |
| 15:30.31 | abrotman | Zifnab: you got naked with him? |
| 15:30.32 | abrotman | oh |
| 15:30.45 | kzar | valdyn: because nvidia is a module surely and modules are made when you compile the kernel ? |
| 15:30.58 | Zifnab | naked with him would be a torture to me |
| 15:31.03 | beardy | PerfDave: Probably, but a higher level that makes things easier to overlook, like firehol is IMHO a good thing. |
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| 15:31.13 | valdyn | kzar: ...and nvidia is a X module and X uses modules |
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| 15:31.26 | valdyn | kzar: ( too ) |
| 15:31.37 | kzar | valdyn: so what should I do then? |
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| 15:31.50 | tralala | beardy: for a complicated setup perhaps |
| 15:31.55 | Zifnab | I need help in getting bacula configured with mysql abrotman |
| 15:32.17 | abrotman | Zifnab: i'm not familiar with bacula .. but i was trying to get you to ask a better question .. |
| 15:32.19 | Zifnab | when I try the way the manual says I get errors |
| 15:32.24 | Roey | nakeee: your point about OO.o being a contributed company project resounds with me, too. |
| 15:32.26 | abrotman | Zifnab: what kind of errors are you getting ? |
| 15:32.37 | valdyn | kzar: lsmod | grep nvidia ( is kernel modules loaded ) and also ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o ( does the X modules exist ) |
| 15:32.37 | Zifnab | unable to find files |
| 15:32.42 | hagbard | wait, tralala, torc are you guys talking about what I think you're talking about? you have an SMP machine and as far as you can tell, only one processor is handling the interrupts instead of balancing them? |
| 15:32.44 | abrotman | find files ? |
| 15:33.06 | abrotman | Zifnab: did you use the bacula package? or are you trying to compile it ? |
| 15:33.20 | Zifnab | was trying to compile |
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| 15:33.28 | torc | hagbard: what i done is installed irqbalance, BUT, as long as i have hyperthreading enabled, i can't tell if its doing right job :) |
| 15:33.29 | beardy | tralala: Well, good for less complicated ones too. But it's always best to understand everything of course, and be able to do things in several ways. |
| 15:33.33 | abrotman | Zifnab: why not use the package? |
| 15:33.37 | Zifnab | can't find information on configuring from package |
| 15:33.48 | tralala | hagbard: torc has it. I unfortunately don't. :) |
| 15:33.49 | Zifnab | thats what I am trying to find |
| 15:33.51 | abrotman | Zifnab: configuring what? |
| 15:34.11 | kzar | valdyn: the nvidia_drv.o file is there but the lsmod returns nothing (modprobe nvidia returns module not found) |
| 15:34.15 | hagbard | torc: ok, so here's the thing, the kernel has irq balancing code in it, but 'balance' is a bad term |
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| 15:34.22 | ism | How do I install my Kyocera Printer? I do have a driver file called *.ppd.gz and it's connected through USB. |
| 15:34.39 | Zifnab | any of it |
| 15:34.41 | torc | hagbard: so there is no need for any irqbalance package? |
| 15:34.44 | hagbard | torc: because performance wise, it does not suit you to balance irq's between rpocessors unless you're under extreme load because of caches. |
| 15:34.45 | abrotman | ism: they're people friendly! |
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| 15:34.51 | abrotman | Zifnab: you did the apt-get install bacula ? |
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| 15:35.10 | Zifnab | when I try the package the instqall fails with unable to install the director |
| 15:35.13 | ism | abrotman: well, but how to set it up then? |
| 15:35.18 | tralala | beardy: my personal pc has less than 10 iptables rules. With iptables this means less then 10 lines and with the shorewall it meant lots of reading and finally perhaps more lines than with iptables. |
| 15:35.28 | tralala | I couldn't take it. |
| 15:35.34 | abrotman | Zifnab: are you on sarge or something else ? |
| 15:35.35 | hagbard | torc: I'm not familiar with the userland package, give me a moment to look at it. |
| 15:35.36 | torc | hagbard: aha. got it. what about such physical + logical SMP thing? like 2 real + 2 logical? |
| 15:35.47 | valdyn | kzar: apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules |
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| 15:35.50 | Zifnab | sarge,yes |
| 15:35.59 | hagbard | torc: what do you mean? |
| 15:36.04 | abrotman | Zifnab: what kind of errors when trying to install ? |
| 15:36.08 | abrotman | err install the director :) |
| 15:36.27 | torc | hagbard: I mean I have 2 physical processor, each with hyperthreading - consisting of 2 logical ones. |
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| 15:36.31 | Zifnab | unable to complete |
| 15:36.40 | hagbard | torc: both dispatch units in a hyperthreaded processor share a cache, but they are not able to always execute in true parralel. |
| 15:36.44 | Zifnab | can not find needed files or something |
| 15:36.47 | abrotman | Zifnab: like this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=312329 ? |
| 15:37.00 | beardy | tralala: Ok, yes then you probably are using the best way for you. |
| 15:37.14 | torc | hagbard: so, its best to disable hyperthreading, and share irq between devices in the system. then kernel will just do fine? |
| 15:37.34 | hagbard | torc: specifically, they both cannot simultaneously service an interrupt, because there is only one lapic per chip. |
| 15:37.51 | kzar | valdyn: its thrown an error about a conflict with another option, I'm going to look into that, thanks for the help back in a bit maybe |
| 15:38.04 | torc | hagbard: aha. so whats the point of putting RAID and NIC on different IRQs? |
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| 15:38.18 | hagbard | torc: What's the machine running? But, honestly, leave hyperthreading and let the kernel irq balancer do it's job. |
| 15:38.33 | Zifnab | does not look like the same thing abrotman |
| 15:38.46 | torc | hagbard: its running vmware gsx - with several virtual machines inside. |
| 15:38.54 | abrotman | Zifnab: then what is the error it throws upon install ? |
| 15:38.57 | torc | hagbard: which means several big threads. |
| 15:38.59 | hagbard | torc: the point of putting the RAID and NIC on different nics is like this - when the kernel gets an interrupt that is shared, it has to query both device drivers to ask "was this interrupt for you?" |
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| 15:39.16 | mentor | abrotman: No no, it's entirely my own coding skills that are sucking |
| 15:39.22 | torc | hagbard: aha.. wonder why HP server bios put those on one interrupt. |
| 15:39.32 | swadex | OH MY F**KING GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.msn-wizz.com/article-13126-5147.html !!!! |
| 15:39.33 | hagbard | torc: so by putting them on seperate IRQ's, the kernel knows exactly who the interrupt is for. |
| 15:39.36 | abrotman | mentor: and it makes your IRC die ? |
| 15:39.42 | mentor | abrotman: yes |
| 15:39.43 | swadex | go |
| 15:39.44 | swadex | http://www.msn-wizz.com/article-13126-5147.html |
| 15:39.44 | swadex | http://www.msn-wizz.com/article-13126-5147.html |
| 15:39.45 | swadex | !!!! |
| 15:39.46 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
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| 15:39.48 | beardy | torc: laziness |
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| 15:39.54 | abrotman | mentor: nice |
| 15:40.02 | torc | hagbard: so, if the box is running several massive threads, does hyperthreading work here? :) |
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| 15:40.24 | hagbard | torc: if your machine, nic, and raid adapter are new enough, then you may want to investigate making sure MSI (message signaled interrupts) are enabled. |
| 15:40.40 | hagbard | torc: Kinda, but probably. |
| 15:40.47 | hagbard | torc: there's a lot of variables to consider. |
| 15:40.55 | hagbard | torc: are your gsx guests SMP or UP? |
| 15:41.02 | torc | hagbard: UP. |
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| 15:41.26 | beardy | ~foo |
| 15:41.28 | apt | bar |
| 15:41.40 | torc | hagbard: actually, I want some best practice config for that. maybe we call reliable - the main factor. |
| 15:41.41 | beardy | ~tell novent93 about root |
| 15:41.56 | hagbard | torc: truth be told, I can't confidently anticipate how it would perform under hyperthreading, however, given what I understand, not hyperthreading would be best. |
| 15:42.10 | hagbard | torc: describing vmware as threaded would be inaccurate, btw. |
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| 15:42.27 | torc | hagbard: its just for similarity to hyperthreading :) |
| 15:42.46 | hagbard | torc: threaded suggests that they share the same RAM, so your two logical processors would not be able to take advantage of the shared cache. |
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| 15:43.09 | hagbard | torc: err, with vmware, since they're not sharing the same ram, they would not be able to take advantage of the shared cache. |
| 15:43.18 | torc | hagbard: e.g. hyperthreading :) |
| 15:43.21 | hagbard | torc: Actually, I think you might see more bus thrashing with hyperthreading. |
| 15:43.24 | torc | hagbard: nice point. |
| 15:43.46 | hagbard | torc: best practice for that? for what? MSI? |
| 15:44.00 | torc | hagbard: for such smp configuration for vmware. |
| 15:44.31 | hagbard | torc: Eh, I know a vmware dev whom I can ask, but I don't think the west coast is really awake yet. |
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| 15:44.39 | torc | hagbard: and for that server at all. looks like default bios settings are quite messy. |
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| 15:45.05 | torc | hagbard: HT enabled by default, NX bit disabled, SCSI RAID and NIC on the same IRQ 3. |
| 15:45.08 | hagbard | torc: I'm sorry, I don't follow. Please excuse my ADD, but could you be a little more specific in your statements? |
| 15:45.18 | hagbard | torc: Ahh. |
| 15:45.36 | hagbard | torc: are the raid and nic on the motherboard, or seperate pci cards? |
| 15:45.53 | torc | hagbard: nic is on motherboard, raid is separate card. |
| 15:46.16 | hagbard | torc: would you mind if we took this to privmsg? |
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| 15:46.27 | AlejiZzZ | how I can know what disc is an incursion of 3 discs? |
| 15:46.28 | torc | hagbard: nope. sorry. |
| 15:46.37 | AlejiZzZ | how I can know what disc is an raid of 3 discs? |
| 15:47.26 | petemc | parse error |
| 15:47.33 | tralala | :)) |
| 15:48.03 | AlejiZzZ | my PC does not recognize any disc, disorders them |
| 15:48.10 | AlejiZzZ | i thinks one is a raid |
| 15:48.19 | nakeee | so how do I set the global news:// handles? |
| 15:48.21 | AlejiZzZ | but i dont know it |
| 15:48.21 | nakeee | handler |
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| 15:48.56 | AlejiZzZ | help me please:( |
| 15:49.18 | tralala | AlejiZzZ: could you be a bit more descriptive? |
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| 15:49.48 | Thargor | i installed debian on german, and now want to change it to englisch. how can i do this? |
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| 15:50.21 | rick_timmis | AlejiZzZ try apropos mdadm, this will give you info on the software RAID Tools |
| 15:50.30 | loxley | Thargor: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 15:51.25 | Thargor | loxley: I have done it but nothing has changed |
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| 15:51.43 | AlejiZzZ | tralala, oke i have pc with scassi card, and its got 3 hard disc, the problem is, i disorders all disc |
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| 15:52.18 | ism | The Printer I am trying to install is not listed in the install routine when accessing localhost:614 - but I do have a *.ppd.gz file from the vendor for linux with CUPS |
| 15:52.48 | GutterPunk | If I want to apt-get the kernel-tree-2.6.8, then WHY the hell does it want to pull xfree and everything with it? |
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| 15:53.09 | AlejiZzZ | tralala my pc not recognizes any disc |
| 15:53.31 | rick_timmis | AlejiZzZ Then your stuffed more than likely, but try here http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/mdadm anyway |
| 15:53.42 | poison | are there any known problems or gotchas with custom kernels and software raid? I compiled my custom kernel my raid recovery takes 10x as long to recover with my custom kernel than with the standard kernel |
| 15:53.45 | BriajWrk | Thargor, try locale-gen |
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| 15:54.27 | Thargor | BriajWrk: already done, but nothing changes |
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| 15:54.40 | thc | Thargor: did you log out and back in? |
| 15:54.42 | BriajWrk | Thargor, echo $LC_ALL |
| 15:55.00 | poison | I figured out that my custom kernel uses dev:hdd2 and the standard kernel uses dev:ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0part2 <- could that be a performance problem? |
| 15:55.03 | awacs | my installer failed to install grub - it tried to change the mbr of hda0 instead of it's scsi peer. i manually mounted the partition now - is there a grub config stub which i can modify? |
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| 15:55.34 | Thargor | BriajWrk: no output |
| 15:55.48 | rick_timmis | poison check out link I sent to AlejiZzZ, I believe that there are some compile time requirements for mdadm tools to work correctly |
| 15:55.55 | AlejiZzZ | but, it isnt problem of linux software,,, when i try set partition, i cant |
| 15:56.06 | BriajWrk | Thargor, logout and login again |
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| 15:56.31 | rick_timmis | Sure, cos you physcally mixxed up the drives, thus you have got a difficult combination problem |
| 15:56.32 | poison | rick_timmis : thanks I'll check it out |
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| 15:56.42 | rick_timmis | brb |
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| 15:57.04 | BriajWrk | Thargor, add this to /etc/profile: |
| 15:57.05 | BriajWrk | export LC_ALL=es_ES@euro |
| 15:57.05 | BriajWrk | export LANG=es_ES |
| 15:57.06 | BriajWrk | export LANGUAGE=es_ES |
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| 15:57.46 | BriajWrk | Thargor, change the vars to english |
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| 15:58.15 | tralala | this is a lame way to do it |
| 15:58.39 | tralala | there is /etc/locale.def |
| 15:59.07 | tralala | which should reconfigure locales should handle |
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| 16:00.49 | Thargor | tralala: locale.def doesn#t exist on my system |
| 16:01.15 | poison | rick_timmis > any idea in particular? I don't find the requirements for mdadm in the debian kernels |
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| 16:01.42 | tralala | Thargor: maybe I've mistyped it try ls /etc/loc*def |
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| 16:02.29 | cahoot | locale.defs |
| 16:02.32 | AlejiZzZ | tralala |
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| 16:03.22 | AlejiZzZ | here ,,, my pc says no fixed disc |
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| 16:03.37 | AlejiZzZ | you're sure |
| 16:03.42 | davi__ | Where is the ftp which keeps the .deb source packages. No the binary. I am looking for the sources. |
| 16:03.46 | tralala | AlejiZzZ: does the bios or the os say this? |
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| 16:04.25 | novent93 | wow can i talk now? |
| 16:04.26 | AlejiZzZ | when i try set a partition ( OS ) |
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| 16:04.32 | kikinovak | Hi. cdrecord -scanbus says that 'there is absolutely NO DMA working'. Q: how do I get the piix module loaded _before_ ide-core (guess that's the problem) |
| 16:04.36 | loxley | davi__: ? |
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| 16:04.52 | Thargor | there is no locale.def or similar in my system |
| 16:04.56 | tralala | AlejiZzZ: did you try the link you were given? |
| 16:05.04 | cahoot | locale.defs Thargor |
| 16:05.11 | davi__ | loxley, I am lookinf for the source code package of pstack |
| 16:05.32 | goccia | davi__: deb-src http://ftp.xxx |
| 16:05.33 | AlejiZzZ | tralala, yes , but the bios no recognize disc |
| 16:05.33 | loxley | davi__: apt-get source pstack ? |
| 16:05.38 | davi__ | loxley, I am not able to find it at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ |
| 16:05.39 | tralala | davi__: man apt_sources |
| 16:06.00 | tralala | err, nope man sources.list |
| 16:07.00 | AlejiZzZ | :S |
| 16:07.08 | Thargor | cahoot: in etc there is no locale.defs |
| 16:07.37 | cahoot | Thargor: you do run debian? sarge? |
| 16:07.38 | tralala | AlejiZzZ: you must configure your bios then |
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| 16:07.57 | rick_timmis | poison I think its a menu option in Make menuconfig |
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| 16:08.02 | tralala | Thargor: please, paste the output of cat /etc/debian_version |
| 16:08.08 | Thargor | cahoot: installed sarge -> but running sid |
| 16:08.09 | goccia | check /etc/locale.gen |
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| 16:09.05 | JennyL | argh! Stupid question I know, but can someone tell me how to configure my /etc/network/interfaces so that my eth0 is using DHCP rather than static? |
| 16:09.14 | cahoot | Thargor: you have already run dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
| 16:09.14 | Thargor | goccia: seems to be the right file thx |
| 16:09.20 | stew | JennyL: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 16:09.29 | goccia | Thargor: np :) |
| 16:09.51 | Thargor | goccia: but it doesn't export anything |
| 16:10.06 | Thargor | cahoot: about 100 times ;-) |
| 16:10.23 | goccia | Thargor: dpkg-reconfigure locales edit that file , i think |
| 16:10.34 | goccia | check the * |
| 16:10.43 | Thargor | * ? |
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| 16:10.53 | goccia | when you reconfigure |
| 16:11.02 | JennyL | stew: thanks! |
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| 16:11.05 | cahoot | Thargor: sorry for having you chasing for a nonexistent file |
| 16:12.23 | adii | i have a problem with installing alsa on my laptop : when running alsaconf, everything goes alright. but when i try to listen to something, it returns an error ( "there is no audio output available" ) |
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| 16:12.54 | Thargor | i have no problem generating the locales, but exporting en_GB at loading time (the debian way) |
| 16:13.40 | AlejiZzZ | oke |
| 16:13.42 | AlejiZzZ | help meeee |
| 16:13.49 | AlejiZzZ | please |
| 16:13.49 | AlejiZzZ | :_D |
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| 16:14.51 | awacs | hmm |
| 16:15.14 | awacs | how am i supposed to boot an installed debian via the install cds commandline prompt? |
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| 16:16.38 | loxley | awacs: the install should have made your system bootable if i'm not completly wrong... :) |
| 16:16.50 | tralala | awacs: I don't think you're supposed to do that with the install cds |
| 16:16.52 | awacs | loxley: supposedly, but the grub install failed |
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| 16:17.12 | loxley | awacs: try reinstall |
| 16:17.13 | awacs | tralala: not? is there a specific rescue cd thingy around? |
| 16:17.34 | awacs | loxley: the problem was on the lines of the grub installer trying install itself into the hda0 mba |
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| 16:17.40 | awacs | loxley: but it's an scsi system |
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| 16:18.04 | stephany | Hi guyz! =) If i will install cvscedega will it erase wine too? =) |
| 16:18.10 | awacs | loxley: or - more specific - an sata system incorrectly identifying itself |
| 16:18.33 | tralala | awacs: a grub disk should do the trick |
| 16:18.34 | ism | where to put my vendors .ppd file so that I can select it during installation routine through browser? |
| 16:18.43 | martag | Can anyone help me recovering lvm partition? after a power loss my pvscan return no physical lvm partitions found :( |
| 16:18.46 | awacs | tralala: grub disk? |
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| 16:18.57 | awacs | tralala: like in floppy disk? |
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| 16:19.27 | tralala | awacs: yep, a disk with grub. Then you tell grub to boot off your hdd. Yep, a floppy. |
| 16:19.49 | loxley | martag: hmm the vg is fucked? |
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| 16:20.02 | colin_ | hello |
| 16:20.06 | awacs | tralala: hmm. i suppose it is not a problem to change kernels later to 2.6 (including nptl capabilites for the system)? if so i'd try to install using 2.4, maybe that'll work better ... |
| 16:20.11 | stephany | If i will install cvs cedega will it erase wine too? =) |
| 16:20.29 | colin_ | wtf |
| 16:20.34 | goccia | awacs: if you want a floppy look for tomsrtbt |
| 16:20.41 | martag | loxley: yup |
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| 16:20.46 | Phoul | Ok question |
| 16:20.49 | awacs | goccia: nope, i don't even got one installed :-) |
| 16:20.55 | Phoul | How do i download more programs? |
| 16:21.03 | Phoul | like for suse i used yast what do i use for this? |
| 16:21.04 | loxley | martag: had the same problem once, fixed it with vgcfgrestore command |
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| 16:21.37 | martag | loxley: tried, but I get an error -1 during read() |
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| 16:21.43 | loxley | martag: something like vgcfgrestore -n vg01 -f /etc/lvmconf/vg01.conf /dev/PhysicalVolumeDevice |
| 16:21.47 | tralala | awacs: I suppose not. |
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| 16:22.01 | Rawplayer | re |
| 16:22.06 | Phoul | Hello? |
| 16:22.09 | hcy | why is it that even if my windows ntfs partition is mounted rw, i still can't write to it? |
| 16:22.13 | Phoul | What do i use to dl more programs? |
| 16:22.22 | Shiraz | Hi |
| 16:22.23 | goccia | awacs: so sysrescuecd or any decent live around |
| 16:22.23 | awacs | tralala: ok. thx! |
| 16:22.24 | martag | loxley: vgcfgrestore -- ERROR "pv_read(): pv_create_name_from_kdev_t" reading physical volume "/dev/hda3" |
| 16:22.29 | tralala | hcy: ntfs is read only |
| 16:22.38 | hcy | tralala: how can i write to it anyway? |
| 16:22.39 | Phoul | Hello? |
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| 16:22.44 | Phoul | Can somone tell me what i use! |
| 16:22.48 | awacs | goccia: but why on earth is this not supported by the debian installer? |
| 16:22.51 | tralala | hcy: do you have windows installed there? |
| 16:23.00 | Phoul | Guys |
| 16:23.03 | Phoul | can somone help me |
| 16:23.03 | thc | hcy: captive-ntfs |
| 16:23.03 | hcy | tralala: not yet |
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| 16:23.09 | loxley | martag: hmm.. |
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| 16:23.13 | hcy | thc: is that apt-getable? |
| 16:23.19 | Shiraz | I've got a strange problem installing debian on a dell 1855: after boot and net cfg, it's unable to download from the net... no firewalls... |
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| 16:23.36 | thc | Phoul: shut up. i assume you are 'Haukr' from yesterday. learn how to use synaptic. |
| 16:23.37 | tralala | hcy: /msg dpkg captiventfs (windows required) |
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| 16:23.53 | Shiraz | a tcpdump shows that remote servers try to ack, but nothing happens |
| 16:23.56 | Phoul | where is synaptic |
| 16:24.03 | tralala | hcy: there is experimental ntfs write support, but I think it is off in the default debian kernels |
| 16:24.07 | thc | Phoul: search for it in your menu. |
| 16:24.23 | loxley | martag: i went over to mdadm and raid0 after 2nd time i had problem with lvm... |
| 16:24.42 | hcy | i'm having trouble installing windows, the installer claims it can't read from the cdrom and wants me to copy the install files onto the harddisk. so i need to copy them onto the ntfs partition. looking for a way to do so. |
| 16:24.44 | martag | loxley: mdadm? |
| 16:24.48 | tezra | hello |
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| 16:25.13 | hcy | and to clarify: I'm a DEBIAN user, I hate windows, but i need to be able to boot windows too for work. |
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| 16:25.26 | hcy | so please don't say it's off topic here :) |
| 16:25.33 | tezra | Can someone explain me which files I need to type in files when preparing a initrd image file with mkinitrd tool? |
| 16:25.36 | EdibleText | hcy, do you have junk on the ntfs partition you need? perhaps you could use fat32 |
| 16:25.41 | tralala | hcy: you don't need to hate windows to get support here |
| 16:25.45 | thc | hcy: if you need to share files between linux and windows, i suggest creating a common vfat partition. |
| 16:25.54 | loxley | martag: i'm sorry someone else might help you.. :/ |
| 16:25.55 | adii | i have a problem with installing alsa on my laptop : when running alsaconf, everything goes alright. but when i try to listen to something, it returns an error ( "there is no audio output available" ) |
| 16:26.05 | martag | loxley: np, thanks anyway |
| 16:26.08 | abrotman | #alsa couldn't help ? |
| 16:26.11 | hcy | yes, i have a vfat partition too. but i need to install the guts of winXP into an NTFS partition |
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| 16:26.14 | Shiraz | no ideas about that net problem? |
| 16:26.31 | EdibleText | hcy, XP will happily convert it for you |
| 16:26.32 | tralala | hcy: or, you could compile your own kernel with ntfs writing enabled just for the task. |
| 16:26.53 | loxley | martag: try #lvm |
| 16:27.03 | CosmoDad | tezra: you mean the parameters to mkinitrd? |
| 16:27.10 | loxley | martag: maybe some lvm skilled people there |
| 16:27.21 | stew | adii: how are you trying to listen to something? |
| 16:27.41 | martag | loxley trying it right now, thanks :) |
| 16:27.48 | adii | stew, playing something in xmms |
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| 16:28.14 | stew | adii: do you have snd_pcm_oss loaded? |
| 16:28.26 | tezra | CosmoDad, the parameters I know.. but man mkinitrd talks about a file named "files" in /etc/mkinitrd and in that files you need to specify the files that are going to be created with initrd or something, I am not sure which files are these since the man page does not explain it good enough for my limited understanding |
| 16:28.36 | adii | stew, yes |
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| 16:28.53 | goccia | adii: tell xmms to use alsa |
| 16:29.04 | tezra | files --> files included in the initrd image |
| 16:29.12 | tezra | but I dont know which files are needed |
| 16:29.14 | Phoul | erm ok im in synaptic but i found what i wanted but im not sure how do dl it |
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| 16:29.41 | thc | Phoul: install it. are you that thick? |
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| 16:29.49 | Phoul | huh? |
| 16:29.53 | tralala | Phoul: tell it to install it and it should get downloaded automatically for you |
| 16:29.58 | Phoul | i know... |
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| 16:30.08 | Phoul | i just dont see the install button |
| 16:30.11 | Phoul | i must be blind |
| 16:30.45 | adii | goccia, i've just done it but i have the same problem |
| 16:30.47 | tralala | Phoul: if you see the keys on your keyboard you could just type aptitude install <whatever> instead. |
| 16:31.07 | Phoul | heh is there a install button on synaptic? |
| 16:31.11 | CosmoDad | tezra: as the man-page states, it's a list of files that are to be included into the initrd. Don't ask me for details, however, as I've never used this option with mkinitrd |
| 16:31.14 | Phoul | because i kinda would like to find it |
| 16:31.19 | tralala | Phoul: are you running it as root? |
| 16:31.22 | goccia | adii: is alsamixer ok ? |
| 16:31.31 | Phoul | Yes |
| 16:31.32 | thc | Phoul: there should be a button that says "Apply" or something like it |
| 16:31.38 | adii | goccia, yep i checked |
| 16:31.41 | CosmoDad | tezra: if you just need to create an initrd based on your modules, you can neglect /etc/mkinitrd/files |
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| 16:31.58 | thc | you can't start synaptic without giving your root password. |
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| 16:32.14 | doubletwist | Anyone here familiar with reiser4 ? |
| 16:32.16 | doubletwist | Specifically, is there a functioning [and somewhat stable] resizefs for reiser4, or should I stick with reiser [3?] |
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| 16:32.19 | tralala | Phoul: then I'm out of ideas. You always have that last option of reading the docs though. |
| 16:32.34 | valdyn | doubletwist: reiser4 is largely untested.. |
| 16:32.44 | meff | if you value your data i would stay away from ricer4 .. ehm reiser4 |
| 16:32.44 | meff | ;) |
| 16:32.50 | doubletwist | valdyn That's what I was afraid of :) |
| 16:32.51 | tezra | CosmoDad, umm.. Im trying to make a custom tiny kernel image that loads a initrd with necessary modules for a certain type of server.. I already have the kernel compiled and modules instaled in my laptop (although I am not running that kernel because its not for my laptop) |
| 16:32.58 | tralala | thc: which tells you (combined with my question) that I'm not a synaptic user |
| 16:33.00 | doubletwist | I'll just stick with reiser then |
| 16:33.05 | goccia | adii: are you running kde ? |
| 16:33.07 | doubletwist | Thanks. |
| 16:33.25 | adii | gnome at the moment |
| 16:33.32 | thc | tralala: me either, but there is no way i am explaining to this guy how apt-get or aptitude work |
| 16:33.43 | tezra | CosmoDad, I was wondering about that file since after executing the mkinitrd tool even though I specify -o testing.img it is not creating that file anywhere :( |
| 16:33.52 | thc | took him 6 hours to get X installed yesterday. |
| 16:33.53 | goccia | damn, i cannot blame arts |
| 16:33.54 | cluless | hello! =) im installing a free version of cvs cedega in my PC right now. but will that erase wine? =) help |
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| 16:34.29 | valdyn | cluless: probably not, you'd have to check with cvs cedega, wrong channel here |
| 16:34.33 | tralala | thc: ah ok... I know was a newbie once but I seem to have forgotten the feeling. |
| 16:34.33 | valdyn | !cedega |
| 16:34.33 | dpkg | cedega is probably the new name for Transgaming's WineX - a proprietary fork of WINE designed to play Windows games. Limited CVS available at http://transgaming.org/cvs/ but missing key components such as copy protection or installshield functionality, or http://timedoctor.org/boycott_winex.php, or and the packaging saga summarised at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200205/msg02823.html |
| 16:34.34 | CosmoDad | tezra: no error message whatsoever? |
| 16:34.42 | thc | cluless: changing your nick and asking the same question isn't going to make someone answer |
| 16:34.42 | tezra | CosmoDad, no error message either |
| 16:34.56 | doubletwist | Is reiserfs itself fairly stable? I've got a machine with a couple large RAID's [1.25TB and 1TB].I'd like to use lvm to manage them into smaller chuncks with the ability to change the sizes of the LV's... |
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| 16:35.05 | richx | good evening |
| 16:35.07 | tezra | CosmoDad, I have to say it is the first time I try mkinitrd and I might have screwed something for sure |
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| 16:35.15 | meff | doubletwist: whats wrong with ext3? |
| 16:35.17 | doubletwist | I'm mostly familiar with ext3, but you ext3 needs to be unmounted to resize. |
| 16:35.20 | richx | are there any german debian channels? |
| 16:35.24 | doubletwist | or at least that's what the LVM howto suggests. |
| 16:35.25 | azeem | richx: #debian.de |
| 16:35.34 | richx | thanks!! |
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| 16:35.46 | goccia | adii: i'm sorry , i keep myself far awuay from gnome : udev is not my friend :) |
| 16:35.48 | meff | doubletwist: well for example a few dists like SuSE use reiser3 by default.. if that helps any.. |
| 16:35.55 | meff | doubletwist: reiser3 is fairly stable. |
| 16:36.01 | meff | doubletwist: though i'd still use ext3 |
| 16:36.05 | hcy | if i have an image of my /dev/hda that i created with dd, is it possible to mount ONE of the partitions in it, say the one that was called /dev/hda2 before? |
| 16:36.13 | CosmoDad | tezra: sorry man, I'm no advanced mkinitrd user, all parameters I need are -o, -r, and my modules directory |
| 16:36.20 | doubletwist | I guess it won't kill me if I have to umount to resize... |
| 16:36.21 | tezra | CosmoDad, the exact command Im using -> mkinitrd -o prueba.initrd 2.6.13 |
| 16:36.21 | tralala | hcy: yes |
| 16:36.25 | hcy | or to dd the /dev/hda2 that's in it into a new image file? |
| 16:36.33 | hcy | tralala: how? |
| 16:36.45 | cmdKeen | what's the name of that app which found nearest fastet debian mirror ? |
| 16:37.03 | valdyn | cmdKeen: probably netselect |
| 16:37.04 | tezra | CosmoDad, in your case what do you specify in -r? |
| 16:37.12 | azeem | cmdKeen: apt-spy I think |
| 16:37.16 | azeem | not sure though |
| 16:37.18 | doubletwist | I guess theres a patch to allow ext to resize while mounted but I'd like to avoid patching the kernel. Ah the give and take of setting up a server... |
| 16:37.19 | CosmoDad | tezra: my root partition |
| 16:37.27 | CosmoDad | tezra: /dev/hda1 |
| 16:37.34 | tezra | CosmoDad, oh... |
| 16:37.35 | valdyn | cmdKeen: netselect-apt |
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| 16:37.54 | adii | goccia, nevermind, i'm gonna ask someone moer familiar with gnome . thanks for your support anyway |
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| 16:38.06 | doubletwist | Thanks again for your help. |
| 16:38.23 | hcy | tralala: there's a working windows install inside that image file (as hda2) which i'd like to dd into my empty ntfs hda2 since i can't seem to get windows to install otherwise... know how i can do that? |
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| 16:38.50 | tezra | CosmoDad, in my mkinitrd.conf is set to probe.. which I think its good since I want it to discover where it is or where it should be.. have you tried not specifying it before? |
| 16:38.52 | CosmoDad | tezra: try an absolute path for -o maybe |
| 16:39.45 | CosmoDad | tezra: no I haven't, I just add it |
| 16:39.54 | tezra | CosmoDad, lol, it worked with absolute path |
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| 16:40.09 | CosmoDad | tezra: not very user-friendly is it? :) |
| 16:40.11 | goccia | adii: i was born with gnome , and i cry every single day ... |
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| 16:40.55 | tralala | you need the offset option of ldsetup (was that the name) |
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| 16:41.07 | tralala | and you need to know the byte offset of hda2 |
| 16:41.09 | tezra | CosmoDad, in my case I want to probe since It is a weird scenario.. system-imager needs to send a kernel to a "blank" computer and that kernel has to load necessary Qlogic drivers.. and right now Im not certain what root device will be |
| 16:41.20 | tralala | hcy: ^^ |
| 16:41.37 | tezra | maybe /dev/sr0 or 1,not sure |
| 16:41.49 | hcy | tralala: this wasn't created with ld, and how can i find that out? |
| 16:42.24 | CosmoDad | tezra: gues it's not so weird at all, those official debian images come with initrds as well and they neither know its user's root partition |
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| 16:45.07 | Phoul | erm i downloaded eterm but it dont open. If i type eterm in the terminal nothing happens it says it dont exist |
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| 16:45.34 | Stolz | hi all |
| 16:45.56 | thc | Phoul: eterm might need to be started with 'Eterm' (case sensitive) |
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| 16:46.20 | Gnea | abrotman: hey, still with it? :) |
| 16:46.43 | tezra | CosmoDad, thanks a lot man |
| 16:46.51 | hcy | tralala: ? |
| 16:47.06 | doubletwist | but I can't spell 'thinks' :) |
| 16:47.13 | Gnea | heh |
| 16:47.29 | tralala | hcy: you need to mount a loop device (ldsetup configures it). Unfortunately I don't know how to determinte the offset |
| 16:47.30 | Stolz | How can I know the total number of packes available at the official Debian repositories? |
| 16:47.32 | Phoul | thx |
| 16:47.42 | Phoul | And how do i make the boarders go away? |
| 16:48.05 | hcy | tralala: what's ldsetup? i can mount cd images with -o loop, so i must be able to do that. |
| 16:48.11 | tralala | hcy: if it is easier for you just dd the hda2 |
| 16:48.22 | hcy | tralala: the old hda2 isn't here anymore |
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| 16:48.44 | tralala | hcy: man ldsetup |
| 16:48.56 | tezra | brb |
| 16:49.09 | tralala | -o loop,offset=something could be the same, but I don't really remember |
| 16:49.27 | hcy | tralala: i don't have ldsetup |
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| 16:49.45 | tralala | losetup? |
| 16:49.55 | tralala | I can't recall the exact name |
| 16:50.05 | hcy | oh losetup exists |
| 16:50.40 | md5sum | okay I've got a slight problem here... physical eject button on my cdrom won't work, right clicking on the cd on gnome desktop and clicking eject won't work, and umount gives "umount: /dev/cdrom: not mounted" -- how the hell do I get the cd out? lol |
| 16:50.53 | rudqwist_ | Hi, i was wondering, how do i know what debian i should download and install?. I dont know the difference between the architectures. Should i choose i386? ia64? ( i have a ASUS A8N sli deluxe motherboard with a athlon 64 processor) |
| 16:51.29 | md5sum | rudqwist_: are you in windows now? |
| 16:51.33 | azeem | rudqwist_: amd64 |
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| 16:51.42 | azeem | rudqwist_: see www.debian.org/ports/amd64 |
| 16:51.44 | md5sum | oh nm |
| 16:51.46 | md5sum | heh |
| 16:51.46 | rudqwist_ | md5sum: Yes i am |
| 16:51.47 | Phoul | anyone know a free p2p that comes with debian |
| 16:51.47 | Phoul | ? |
| 16:51.50 | rudqwist_ | azeem: Thanks |
| 16:51.50 | md5sum | guess I could always read |
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| 16:52.48 | thc | Phoul: open up a terminal and type: apt-cache search p2p |
| 16:53.09 | thc | Phoul: you need to read about Debian's package management. |
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| 16:53.32 | Stolz | How can I know the total number of packes available at the official Debian repositories? |
| 16:53.36 | toto | Hi I need help with debian |
| 16:53.54 | Phoul | heh |
| 16:53.54 | md5sum | toto: just ask :) |
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| 16:54.25 | asg | Stolz: apt-cache search . | wc -l |
| 16:54.29 | lu5t | I'm having a problem with my sound.. I run alsaconf, and it detects my nforce2 audio as intel8x0, which should be right. I turn everything up in alsamixer, then store the values, and xmms plays a stream, but I hear no sound.. any ideas? |
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| 16:54.37 | Phoul | there dont appear to be any like things like limewire or ares |
| 16:55.18 | toto | FireFox stopped displaying images, its only text, and its not a misconfiguration of firefox because the "Load Images" button is checked |
| 16:55.31 | thc | lu5t: xmms is using alsa? |
| 16:55.42 | Stolz | asg, I don't have Debian installed. Can I see it on any onlyne web? |
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| 16:55.59 | toto | it worked fine until today, dont know what happend |
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| 16:56.12 | toto | any ideas? |
| 16:56.35 | gato | ola |
| 16:56.36 | goccia | toto: try mv .mozilla .mozilla_old and restart firefox |
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| 16:56.47 | Phoul | anyone know of a program like i downloaded limewire's rpm but it says An error occurred while loading the archive. |
| 16:56.49 | goccia | ~/.mozilla |
| 16:57.01 | gato | thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhug4 ib´301vvvuir9qob3 |
| 16:57.23 | thc | did a cargo plane full of laptops crash into a school for gifted children today? |
| 16:57.47 | asg | Stolz: $ apt-cache search . | wc -l |
| 16:57.48 | asg | 17228 |
| 16:57.55 | asg | Stolz: that's for unstable |
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| 16:58.20 | asg | Stolz: 15429 (for stable) |
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| 16:58.58 | md5sum | ACK! help... I did a fuser /dev/cdrom because my cd wouldn't eject, and it said nautilus was using it, so I killed nautilus and the CD ejected but now I can't stop the errors: "Nautilus can't be used now due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server." |
| 16:58.58 | ratonn | Hi. Is there a way to remove exim4's Return-Path: header? I like to use noreply@domain for some of my newsletters. |
| 16:59.04 | Stolz | asg: ok, thanks, that is what i've been looking for :) |
| 16:59.41 | goccia | so same crap , konqueror was doing the same |
| 16:59.46 | toto | what does that do? |
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| 17:00.32 | Phoul | crap |
| 17:00.39 | Phoul | it appears m sound does not work :S |
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| 17:00.53 | Phoul | can somone give me a hand getting that to work becuse i have no bloody clue what to do |
| 17:01.20 | stew | Phoul: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 17:02.08 | Phoul | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 17:02.16 | stew | Phoul: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 17:02.25 | stew | Phoul: note the part at the end about 2.4 kernel |
| 17:03.09 | Phoul | man that makes no sence :( |
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| 17:03.41 | Phoul | sscrew it im going back to bed im sick :( |
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| 17:03.55 | stew | !2.4 alsa one-liner is to install alsa on a 2.4 kernel: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-modules-$(uname -r) && alsaconf ; if you are using a 2.6 kernel ask me about <alsa one-liner> |
| 17:03.55 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 17:04.32 | stew | dpkg: no alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kenrel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner> |
| 17:04.32 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 17:05.08 | asg | !alsa one-liner s/kenrel/kernel/ |
| 17:05.36 | asg | !alsa one-liner =~ s/kenrel/kernel/ |
| 17:05.37 | dpkg | OK, asg |
| 17:06.04 | stew | thanks :) |
| 17:06.12 | goccia | i nedd some virus : this exim4-daemon-heavy and clamav on volatile are really amazing ... |
| 17:06.16 | asg | stew: usually, I'm the one making the spelling mistakes :) |
| 17:06.17 | goccia | need* |
| 17:06.22 | goccia | magic |
| 17:06.24 | toto | thx for the help bye! |
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| 17:06.34 | asg | goccia: clam should come with a test virus. Otherwise, google fir eicar |
| 17:06.39 | asg | s/fir/for/ |
| 17:06.41 | stew | eicar.com |
| 17:06.42 | goccia | asg: yeahhh |
| 17:06.56 | goccia | asg: debian rocks : there is a deb for that :) |
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| 17:07.12 | SimonRaven | clamav-testfile |
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| 17:07.42 | mazze_ | I want GNOME to automount removable devices, but /var/log/messages tells me that "pmount" fails. Can anybody give me a hint (or a Link)? Thanks. |
| 17:07.47 | goccia | asg: think is : it stopped me for sending out and stops bugtraq exploit coming in :) |
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| 17:08.11 | asg | goccia: you could whitelist bugtraq and outbound mail (if you trust it) |
| 17:08.17 | azeem | mazze_: do you have pmount installed? |
| 17:08.20 | goccia | asg: ahhhh good |
| 17:08.27 | mazze_ | azeem yes. |
| 17:08.35 | stew | hmm clamav should maybe include eicar.com in /usr/share/doc/clamav its only like a 47 byte file or something |
| 17:08.39 | mazze_ | azeem its 0.8-2 |
| 17:08.47 | aless | Can I pass from ubuntu to sid |
| 17:08.51 | azeem | mazze_: does it just "fail", or is there an actual error message? |
| 17:09.01 | goccia | asg: is it possible to get notified by exim whenever it deletes (reject) some malware ? |
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| 17:09.24 | goccia | i keeep looking into /var/log ... |
| 17:09.40 | adii | how to add a dns server under bash or smth? |
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| 17:10.20 | Mage_ | adii: what's the link between bash and a dns server ? |
| 17:10.27 | goccia | asg: vi /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:10.49 | adii | Mage_, i just said "bash" to explain that i was using a shell and no graphic environment :) |
| 17:10.50 | mazze_ | azeem there are some messages: manager.c/818: New Device: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/scsi_3_0_0_0 ^M libhal.c 911 : Error sending msg: No property info.capabilities on device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/scsi_3_0_0_0 ^M manager.c/818: New Device: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_16 ^M manager.c/854: Changed: /dev/sdb1 ^M manager.c/797: Added: /dev/sdb1 ^M Fehler: konnte pmount nicht ausführen |
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| 17:11.06 | Mage_ | apt-get install bind9 then |
| 17:11.13 | mazze_ | azeem okay, shame on me: I used german language as default on this system ... but it is not for me :) |
| 17:11.32 | goccia | Mail/read-mbox: Worm.Bagle.BB-gen FOUND Mail/virus-intercept: Worm.Gibe.F FOUND : hahaha i'm ready hahaha |
| 17:11.34 | mazze_ | azeem last message means "Could not execute pmount" |
| 17:11.38 | aless | Can I pass from ubuntu 5.10 to debian sid |
| 17:11.50 | adii | Mage_, was it an answer for me ? |
| 17:11.53 | azeem | mazze_: I am actually german |
| 17:12.02 | azeem | :) |
| 17:12.19 | adii | Mage_, how should i use apt-get when i dunno how to set a dns server |
| 17:12.22 | azeem | mazze_: are you running sarge or etch? |
| 17:12.25 | asg | aless: #ubuntu might know. you are better off installing stable and upgrading though (after reading the sid faq (/msg dpkg sid faq) of course) |
| 17:12.25 | mazze_ | azeem :) |
| 17:12.27 | mazze_ | azeem sarge |
| 17:12.54 | azeem | mazze_: I know that one can run pmount manually as well, I suggest you try that first |
| 17:13.13 | stew | aless: maybe? /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 17:13.15 | azeem | mazze_: did you install sarge, or upgrade from woody or something earlier? |
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| 17:13.51 | mazze_ | azeem i installed sarge at the time it was still testing, and upgraded to sarge/stable somewhen. |
| 17:14.07 | mazze_ | azeem how do I execute pmount correctly? |
| 17:14.12 | azeem | mazze_: then maybe check the groups you're in |
| 17:14.28 | azeem | though I am not sure whether sarge is using plugdev |
| 17:14.37 | Ungy | wow no upgrades on sid today how strange |
| 17:14.50 | azeem | seems it does |
| 17:14.56 | yang26_ | is there a program that connect to TIME server to set proper system time? |
| 17:15.11 | Ungy | yang26_, ntpdate |
| 17:15.12 | mazze_ | azeem hmmm, perhaps I need "hal" |
| 17:15.13 | azeem | yang26_: ntpdate is the package |
| 17:15.17 | goccia | lokk at thi ahahaha : Clamd successfully notified about the update : this makes the difference , great great great |
| 17:15.20 | azeem | mazze_: do you have plugdev? |
| 17:15.22 | SimonRaven | goccia: i run clam from exim4, i don't even see them |
| 17:15.43 | mazze_ | azeem is this a package or kernel-module? Don't know it ... |
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| 17:15.50 | azeem | mazze_: a group :) |
| 17:15.52 | grover | anyone else seeing a dovecot problem in testing |
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| 17:15.56 | aless | exit |
| 17:15.57 | azeem | your user should be in it, I guess |
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| 17:16.15 | mazze_ | azeem :) no, I not in there ... |
| 17:16.41 | goccia | SimonRaven: that was freshclam : i pojnt it to volatile and it does automagically every hours (i heard max 4 per hour to avoid ban) |
| 17:16.48 | mazze_ | azeem hmmm, made the change; I should log out and in again, now ... |
| 17:16.49 | aetas | Im trying to install debian off the testing cds, can I get through the install process with only the first cd? Im trying not to download 13 of them |
| 17:17.01 | nite613 | What's a good way to find out the last date/time a machine had an apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 17:17.12 | azeem | mazze_: yes |
| 17:17.14 | SimonRaven | goccia: i do every 6 or 12, can't remember |
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| 17:17.35 | azeem | nite613: /var/log/dpkg.log, maybe |
| 17:17.38 | SimonRaven | hours |
| 17:17.39 | mazze_ | azeem so: I'll be back in some minutes; thank so long! |
| 17:17.43 | azeem | cheers |
| 17:17.47 | syntaxx | any good tutorials on running mpd? |
| 17:17.48 | azeem | nite613: not sure that is in sarge, though |
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| 17:18.10 | xoz | nite613: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/ :) |
| 17:18.11 | asg | syntaxx: the manpage is quite complete |
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| 17:18.34 | nite613 | azeem: thanks |
| 17:18.36 | dockane | hi all .. is there any commandline based tool to show MB/s for ide harddisks ? somehting like iptraf for hds ? |
| 17:18.45 | asg | dockane: iostat |
| 17:18.46 | nite613 | xoz: Right on, that's exactly what I need, thanks :) |
| 17:18.54 | caphuso | hrm, 19:18 and far less food available than i'd like to spend the evening with :-/ |
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| 17:19.04 | caphuso | damnit |
| 17:19.08 | asg | caphuso: time for a shop run? |
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| 17:19.14 | goccia | SimonRaven: i love this REAL HAL things : debian rocks : i've edited just a couple of lines , main.cvd version: 34 and daily.cvd version: 1148 , symply the best , nothing compares to this |
| 17:19.16 | dockane | asg: thx |
| 17:19.26 | caphuso | asg: race... i have a bike :) |
| 17:19.28 | coolermania | CLEAR |
| 17:19.33 | asg | caphuso: heh |
| 17:19.39 | strat | ive tried to install a few linx games..racer, and just now a game ccalled dangerdeep..but they ll complain about libstdc...get a eror this time about glibcxx..where do i get the latest libstdc..have libstdc 6 package installed |
| 17:19.44 | coolermania | WHOIS coolermania |
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| 17:19.50 | SimonRaven | goccia: nice, innit |
| 17:19.57 | mazze_ | I |
| 17:20.03 | mazze_ | it works now! |
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| 17:20.22 | abrotman | Gnea: ? |
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| 17:20.42 | syntaxx | asg, yeah but trying mpd --createdb 6600 ~/mp3 ~/mp3 doesnt run |
| 17:20.54 | mazze_ | azeem :) |
| 17:20.56 | goccia | SimonRaven: i dont' really need clamav but i want to enjoy sarge so i try everything , no need to go for sid to be cutting edge :) |
| 17:21.02 | azeem | mazze_: cool |
| 17:21.16 | SimonRaven | goccia: yup |
| 17:21.20 | mazze_ | azeem thank you for your kind help. |
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| 17:21.36 | Alan66 | hi all... |
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| 17:21.59 | asg | syntaxx: it's --create-db |
| 17:22.00 | doubletwist | anyone been able to find an aaccli that works in debian? [for adaptec raid cards] |
| 17:22.16 | Alan66 | I realize this is not the best place to ask but searching for some help and not really sure where to go.. I have a dbox2 (sportster image) but I am getting screen freezes.. anyone know where I can get help or advice (channel etc?) |
| 17:22.20 | amorphix | my interfaces file isnt being loaded/nic doesnt have the right settings on boot up. what should I check? |
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| 17:22.49 | coolermania | WHO |
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| 17:23.11 | xoz | amorphix: /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 17:24.08 | azeem | amphi: what's the context? |
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| 17:25.23 | xoz | !qball wha't the weather today? |
| 17:25.31 | xoz | !qball what's the weather today? |
| 17:25.42 | amphi | azeem: Alan66's question |
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| 17:26.00 | azeem | ah |
| 17:26.20 | xoz | !qball what's your prediction? |
| 17:26.21 | dpkg | the atmosphere is gray |
| 17:26.28 | asg | !8ball is xoz abusing the bot? |
| 17:26.29 | dpkg | I'm not sure. |
| 17:26.51 | amorphix | xoz: thats the one |
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| 17:27.28 | xoz | !qball am i correct? |
| 17:27.28 | dpkg | no |
| 17:27.39 | azeem | xoz: please stop that |
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| 17:28.00 | xoz | amorphix: man interfaces |
| 17:28.13 | Alan66 | not the right chan :) |
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| 17:28.43 | xoz | !channel |
| 17:28.44 | dpkg | i heard channel is This refers to the group of resellers that supply most companies with software, hardware, and support. The channel is a force to be reckoned with, and it competes directly against companies like Gateway 2000 and Dell. A channel can also be a content container, like a television channel. You may be watching TV channels on the Internet someday. |
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| 17:29.12 | tezra | is there a debian channel dedicated to debian cd's or booting? |
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| 17:29.30 | xoz | try #debian-boot |
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| 17:30.02 | amorphix | it astonishes me that people see the need to tell me how to use the man command |
| 17:30.10 | tezra | thx |
| 17:30.13 | asg | tezra: don't use it unless you have a serious bug. It is a developer channel. If you have issues installing Debian, ask here |
| 17:30.27 | xoz | but not much people there... |
| 17:30.44 | andrownz | i have a problem splitting a big file : 4.2GB. 'split' command of coreutils doesn't seem to have any join capabilites. So i tryied lxsplit, but it fails to get the size of my 4.2G file, and ask me to use cp rather ... Anyone could help ? |
| 17:30.44 | tezra | asg, not really I need help creating initrd specific initrd images and they should know that very good |
| 17:30.46 | streuner | tezra: #debian-boot is a developer channel for d-i (debian-installer).... |
| 17:30.59 | amorphix | my interfaces file isnt being loaded/nic doesnt have the right settings on boot up. what should I check? |
| 17:31.00 | tezra | :) |
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| 17:31.38 | asg | tezra: that's nothing to do with the installer. man mkinitrd |
| 17:31.50 | tezra | asg.. man mkinitrd is not enough right now |
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| 17:32.00 | tezra | Ive read the whole thing |
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| 17:32.08 | xoz | amorphix: have you setup your interfaces correctly. man interfaces provide a very simple example. |
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| 17:32.12 | elkid | andrownz: File of 4.2GB? what file is that? |
| 17:32.14 | tezra | still I get a kernel panic not able to mount root in a certain machine |
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| 17:32.38 | andrownz | elkid, DVD iso |
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| 17:32.58 | elkid | oh |
| 17:33.10 | amorphix | am I correct in thinking that "auto eth0 inet static" will bring up the nic settings at boot up, as opposed to "iface eth0" which will require manual use of ifup? |
| 17:33.20 | asg | tezra: /msg dpkg can't mount root |
| 17:33.37 | amorphix | xoz: I believe so, but I may have missed the point re auto/iface |
| 17:33.39 | azeem | amphi: auto eth0 inet static looks bogus |
| 17:33.40 | elkid | andrownz: it can takes a while to do "md5sum ur4.5GBfile" hehe |
| 17:33.44 | tezra | thx asg |
| 17:33.48 | amorphix | oh |
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| 17:33.49 | azeem | eh |
| 17:34.00 | azeem | s/amphi/amorphix/ |
| 17:34.14 | amorphix | call me amx if it's easier ;-) |
| 17:34.15 | andrownz | elkid, don't want to md5sum, just split it in two files |
| 17:34.37 | md5sum | why don't you want to md5sum? |
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| 17:34.56 | azeem | md5sum: don't take it personal |
| 17:35.01 | md5sum | hehehe |
| 17:35.16 | md5sum | sha has been getting all the attention lately :( |
| 17:35.22 | nite613 | I just inherited an old woody machine to maintain, and it seems there have been no updates since Jan 2004. sources.list points to good mirrors and "stable". Doing an apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing. |
| 17:35.34 | nite613 | Am I doing something wrong? I swear I've done this more times than I can count. |
| 17:35.51 | xoz | amorphix: first make sure that your interface is detected. try ifconfig or dmesg and check if it's detected. auto only list what's the interface to use. iface will indicate whether it should use dhcp or static address. you need both statements to configure the interface. |
| 17:35.51 | goccia | md5sum: that sha thing is in md5deep :) |
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| 17:36.00 | md5sum | =] |
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| 17:36.03 | stew | amorphix: no "auto eth0" on a line by itself, then "iface eth0 inet static" |
| 17:36.12 | amorphix | oh i see! |
| 17:36.13 | azeem | nite613: check 'dpkg -l libc6', what does the last line say? |
| 17:36.16 | amorphix | thanks stew |
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| 17:36.33 | nite613 | azeem: 2.3.2.ds1-10 |
| 17:36.37 | EdibleText | nite613, 'stable' currently tracks sarge, not woody |
| 17:36.48 | toptnc | hi all |
| 17:36.57 | nite613 | EdibleText: I know. I was trying to dist-upgrade to sarge |
| 17:37.02 | azeem | nite613: and apt-cache show libc6 | grep Version? |
| 17:37.03 | tezra | asg, dpkg didnt tell me anything new :( |
| 17:37.03 | PerfDave | nite613: If you want to stick with woody, you need to point your sources.list to oldstable. Otherwise, upgrade to Sarge (Debian 3.1) by reading the release notes at http://www.debian.org/ |
| 17:37.06 | stew | nite613: bad mirror maybe? "apt-get -f install"? |
| 17:37.16 | tezra | asg, I think I need to learn more about network booting Im afraid :) |
| 17:37.17 | toptnc | i have recently update openoffice.org2 from debian experimental to openoffice.org (V2) from debian unstable |
| 17:37.27 | nite613 | azeem: lists 2.3.2.ds1-22 and -10 |
| 17:37.45 | azeem | nite613: what do you actually want to do? Keep with woody or upgrade to sarge? |
| 17:37.57 | toptnc | now openoffice.org doesn't look like my gnome theme |
| 17:38.12 | azeem | toptnc: install the gnome support package |
| 17:38.13 | toptnc | openoffice.org2 from experimental looked right |
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| 17:38.23 | nite613 | azeem: upgrade to sarge (assuming I don't need to rebuild the kernel right away to do that, there's a funny scsi drivers I don't want to deal with today |
| 17:38.27 | asg | tezra: well, what are you trying to do for a start. |
| 17:38.28 | stew | nite613: paste the results of "apt-cache policy libc6" in flood or http://channels.debian.net/paster |
| 17:38.29 | toptnc | azeem: ok, i'll try it |
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| 17:38.51 | vosti | i installed debian from floppies and when i boot up for the first time, but when init start it tell me: init: no inittab file found...what can i do? during the installation i've done all thing right |
| 17:38.52 | stew | err s/paster/paste/ |
| 17:39.17 | nite613 | stew: #flood |
| 17:40.22 | mtnman | vosti: silly question, but did you remove the last diskette from the drive? |
| 17:40.29 | xoz | vosti: need more description. |
| 17:40.49 | andrownz | ok i'm 'md5suming' a 4.2GB file .. seems like it's gonna take for ever. what's the biggest file you've md5sumed and how long did it take? :) |
| 17:40.52 | vosti | mtnman, yes... |
| 17:41.04 | goccia | asg : i can telnet a eicar line to exim and it works :) |
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| 17:41.14 | vosti | xoz, mtnman: maybe i found somethings in google |
| 17:41.16 | md5sum | dammit! quit highlighting my chans lol |
| 17:41.27 | asg | goccia: cool |
| 17:41.35 | FliesLikeALap | why do my iptables rules/chains all reset when i reboot? |
| 17:41.36 | mtnman | vosti: best to do your own research before asking in the channel... |
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| 17:42.12 | tezra | asg.. system-imager with dhcp bootp and kernel image ready.. empty client network boots.. is assigned an ip and the kernel.. boots with the kernel.. still says it cant find root fs but it has all drivers needed for harddisks it may use :( scsi support, qlogic drivers, etc.. |
| 17:42.22 | xoz | andrownz: do you know the time complexity of md5sum algo? |
| 17:42.28 | toptnc | azeem: it worked, thanks :) |
| 17:42.30 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, you have to save and restore your rules with iptables-save, and iptables-restore |
| 17:42.34 | md5sum | ARRRghHHhhHhh |
| 17:42.40 | vosti | mtnman, yes sorry...but i'm very busy....so ..... |
| 17:42.40 | tezra | asg, Im surely missing something, but Im not sure what :) |
| 17:42.42 | FliesLikeALap | thanks andrownz |
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| 17:42.44 | andrownz | xoz, not any idea |
| 17:42.49 | FliesLikeALap | andrownz do they automatically restore on boot? |
| 17:43.03 | asg | tezra: if it's network booting, perhaps using nfs for the filesystems is what you are missing |
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| 17:43.12 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, you have to execute iptables-restore to restore them on boot .. |
| 17:43.16 | FliesLikeALap | alright |
| 17:43.18 | FliesLikeALap | thanks |
| 17:43.20 | frankyd | -- ? i don't know how to open .rar files and i'm not ableto find a plugin for ark what should i do ?-- |
| 17:43.27 | PerfDave | frankyd: unrar |
| 17:43.28 | asg | frankyd: /msg dpkg rar |
| 17:43.35 | mtnman | vosti: i can appreciate that you are busy, however if you ask before doing your own research, you are discounting the value of the time of others. |
| 17:44.00 | xoz | tezra: make sure that initrd image contains the fs and ide/scsi driver for your hw. otherwise, it cannot load these drivers which are needed to load your actual filesystem. |
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| 17:44.09 | vosti | mtnman, ya..sorry! |
| 17:44.09 | mtnman | vosti: please file this under "constructive criticism" not "flame" |
| 17:44.20 | vosti | mtnman, no problem :) |
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| 17:46.22 | xoz | andrownz: try md5sum a gig... then multiply the time you have with the gig you need. |
| 17:46.32 | frankyd | <frankyd> -- ? i don't know how to open .rar files and i'm not ableto find a plugin for ark what should i do ?-- |
| 17:46.33 | frankyd | <PerfDave> frankyd: unrar |
| 17:46.33 | frankyd | <asg> frankyd: /msg dpkg rar |
| 17:46.36 | md5sum | wow.... |
| 17:46.37 | frankyd | sorry |
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| 17:47.02 | md5sum | xoz: highlight this! lol |
| 17:47.04 | asg | md5sum: fix your highlight to only do so on $md5sum |
| 17:47.14 | asg | md5sum: or ^md5sum rather |
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| 17:47.24 | xoz | andrownz: it will give an estimate how long will it take unless md5 does not satisfy distributed property of mult over add |
| 17:47.24 | md5sum | asg: what does that do? :) |
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| 17:47.28 | Dasnipa` | was the md5sum right? |
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| 17:47.33 | Dasnipa` | hehe jk |
| 17:47.34 | Dasnipa` | ;) |
| 17:47.41 | asg | md5sum: prevent lines like '13:48 < Dasnipa`> was the md5sum right?' from bugging you |
| 17:47.42 | Roey | how do I ping specific ports? |
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| 17:47.47 | asg | Roey: telnet, netcat |
| 17:47.53 | Roey | asg: alright. |
| 17:48.00 | Roey | asg: I guess I can try netcat then instead of ping. |
| 17:48.14 | asg | Roey: yes, ping is icmp, telnet tcp, netcat is tcp/udp |
| 17:48.20 | md5sum | asg: so is it $md5sum or ^md5sum ? |
| 17:48.27 | tezra | asg, system-imager is using ftp.. I just realized the kernel does not load the apropiate nic driver for the box.. and that can definetly be the case... :) although I wanted to figure out what kind of root filesystem is mounted by the kernel and how when booting from the network |
| 17:48.32 | andrownz | xoz, ok it's over, it has taken 7 minutes maybe |
| 17:48.32 | Roey | asg: but if I want to send icmp to a specific port, I can't do that? |
| 17:48.33 | asg | md5sum: ^md5sum (match at the begining of the line) |
| 17:48.39 | Roey | asg: does icmp even recognize ports?) |
| 17:48.44 | asg | Roey: no, icmp doesn't have ports |
| 17:48.46 | Roey | asg: (being a layer 2 protocol?_) |
| 17:48.49 | Roey | asg: ahhhhhhhhh ok then. |
| 17:48.58 | md5sum | asg: I'm in Xchat... I don't think I can turn off the automatic highlighting, can I? |
| 17:48.59 | xoz | andrownz: about more than a minute per gig? |
| 17:49.12 | andrownz | xoz, that's it; not so bad :) |
| 17:49.15 | asg | md5sum: dunno, I've never used X-Chat but it should be something you can script |
| 17:49.40 | Roey | asg: thank you very much |
| 17:49.44 | asg | Roey: you're welcome |
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| 17:50.30 | sussudio | asg: http://www.weirfield.co.uk/downloads/badgers%201024.jpg |
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| 17:50.47 | asg | sussudio: haha |
| 17:51.10 | stew | damn those are some cute badgers |
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| 17:51.24 | asg | I'm surprised they are awake and perky |
| 17:51.35 | sussudio | they're cubs |
| 17:51.38 | yoav | 'lo all. I really need some help, I can't start the Xserver |
| 17:51.46 | asg | yoav: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 17:52.04 | Acridian | i have problems with debian and ion3... |
| 17:52.07 | kristof | hi, how can I create a user, wich can not login, it's only to have a mailbox name (that I can after redirect with aliases, but identify clearly)? |
| 17:52.21 | Acridian | i have installed ion3 and it give me error when i start it |
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| 17:52.28 | asg | kristof: aliases don't require an existing account |
| 17:52.30 | mtnman | kristof: give the user the shell /bin/false |
| 17:52.35 | PerfDave | kristof: man adduser |
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| 17:52.36 | Acridian | the error is laike this -> http://omena.org/~desed/paste/lue.php?id=1435fc23ac8b1e |
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| 17:53.22 | Acridian | can anyone help me? |
| 17:53.27 | kristof | asg, mtnman, PerfDave, thanks a lot (specially PerfDave for being constructive ;-) |
| 17:53.44 | Acridian | what i have to do than ion3 does work |
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| 17:53.59 | mtnman | kristof: what is not constructive about the advice i gave? |
| 17:54.21 | kristof | asg, you mean that I can have an exim rule that deliver mail to a name which is not correponding to an existing user, and then use that name in /etc/aliases? |
| 17:54.26 | xoz | Acridian: does X work? |
| 17:54.54 | yoav | well, that's nice and all, but I allready had gnome & ion2 runing. but all the sudden, it could no longer start. the last error in Xorg log is about no mouse, but the mouse is ok |
| 17:54.54 | asg | kristof: yes (I don't have an 'abuse' user but have an alias that routes to root and hence to my off-machine admin email address.) |
| 17:54.57 | Acridian | i dont know i have used debian 2 days |
| 17:55.21 | Acridian | how i test does X work? |
| 17:55.22 | azeem | Acridian: does somethine else than ion3 work? |
| 17:55.24 | asg | kristof: no rule needed, just add 'user: forwarding-address' to /etc/aliases |
| 17:55.31 | azeem | Acridian: how do you login? |
| 17:55.35 | kristof | mtnman, oops, it is constructive, I meant the one PerfDave gave was the less constructive (in the short term) but not in the long term, I know (it's better to learn from one self and from the doc than from direct answers, gnagnagna :-= |
| 17:55.47 | Acridian | i login as root |
| 17:55.51 | kristof | asg, thanks a lot!! |
| 17:55.55 | asg | kristof: you're welcome |
| 17:55.58 | azeem | Acridian: on the text-mode console? |
| 17:56.05 | azeem | Acridian: or at a graphical login screen? |
| 17:56.06 | Acridian | yes |
| 17:56.10 | Acridian | console |
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| 17:56.22 | azeem | Acridian: ion3 only works in graphical mode, which is X |
| 17:56.34 | azeem | Acridian: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 17:56.45 | azeem | and maybe gdm |
| 17:56.48 | Acridian | okey... |
| 17:56.51 | Acridian | i test... |
| 17:56.56 | Acridian | thanks |
| 17:57.02 | xoz | !tell Acridian about setup x |
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| 17:57.26 | asg | kristof: eventual deliver will have to go to a real user somewhere (or the bit bucket if you wish) but that's easily done with aliases. |
| 17:57.36 | asg | s/deliver/delivery/ |
| 17:58.10 | xoz | kristof: or maybe you can configure procmail |
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| 17:58.41 | PerfDave | asg: Not necessarily - I'm playing with exim and cyrus ATM and have a whole bunch of nonexistent users authenticating with SASL :) |
| 17:59.02 | kristof | asg, yes, I had that in mind (send some kind of mail to a particular name, and route that mail to root, so that in my mua, I can make some rules to classify those mail the easy way) |
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| 17:59.03 | asg | PerfDave: I have 150k users doing the same thing |
| 17:59.29 | asg | kristof: that will work just fine (for security reasons though, it is better to route root's mail to a regular user) |
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| 18:00.03 | yoav | here's a question that bugs me a lot more then my rebelius Xorg: when I press ALT+F2, instead of a new console, I get a blank screen |
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| 18:00.05 | DJ-Br00kLyN | [ Hi all...miss me? :) m? ] |
| 18:00.05 | xoz | it's not a good idea for root to receive mails. |
| 18:00.07 | Firestarter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:00.23 | sussudio | DJ-Br00kLyN: your onjoin script is lame |
| 18:00.44 | DJ-Br00kLyN | ? |
| 18:01.03 | yoav | that, and how the fuck do I stop a command. |
| 18:01.15 | xoz | yoav: check /etc/inittab for the consoles ttys you got |
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| 18:02.23 | xoz | yoav: man kill. ctrl-c |
| 18:02.23 | kristof | asg, hmm, to go till the end, I have a final alias root: mycurrentuser :-) I'll have a look to procmail too... |
| 18:02.23 | Gumby | does anyone here use NetworkManager? I'm trying to figure out where it gets its settings from. whenever I start it my wireless just stops working all together |
| 18:02.23 | yoav | xoz, thanks. |
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| 18:02.36 | DJ-Br00kLyN | LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS v LAMOS v LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LITHUANIA JE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS LAMOS |
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| 18:02.54 | DJ-Br00kLyN | [ Hi all...miss me? :) m? ] |
| 18:02.57 | azeem | !ops DJ-Br00kLyN floods |
| 18:02.59 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: DJ-Br00kLyN floods |
| 18:03.10 | DJ-Br00kLyN | !op |
| 18:03.17 | thc | moron. |
| 18:03.19 | LoRez | poof |
| 18:03.28 | sussudio | yeah. i saw that one coming a mile away |
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| 18:03.49 | asg | kristof: there you go |
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| 18:05.03 | xoz | floods from Lithuania |
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| 18:05.47 | stew | gives a bad name to my hood, fool better recognize |
| 18:06.13 | asg | stew: they have Brooklyn in Lithuania? |
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| 18:06.35 | stew | 213.226.137.3 is .il.us |
| 18:06.42 | sussudio | in soviet lithuania, brooklyn has you |
| 18:07.02 | sussudio | in other words, that was another one of kawfee's bots |
| 18:07.25 | asg | stew: my whois must be lying to me then |
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| 18:08.07 | JennyL | Can someone help me with VNC? I can connect to my debian box with VNC but I just get a mouse -- no Icons or desktop manager. Something is missing and I don't know what... |
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| 18:08.54 | xoz | JennyL: configure .vnc/xstartup |
| 18:09.14 | xoz | JennyL: err, ~/.vnc/xstartup |
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| 18:09.37 | JennyL | I have, but I'm not sure exactly how -- All I have been able to do is make the X dissappear and chance to a dot |
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| 18:09.58 | _eLMo_ | k, question, I've got Gentoo on my PC right now, I like to play with things ( settings ), and I am using Gentoo now for 5 months, I'm still a noob, but i'm not dumb, and willing to learn, I want to change OS cause i'm fed up with compiling, and I'm doubting, between Debian, or FreeBSD, suggestions ? |
| 18:09.58 | xoz | JennyL: what window manager you placed in xstartup? |
| 18:10.06 | JennyL | kde |
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| 18:10.25 | JennyL | my xstartup is two lines: #!/bin/sh startkde & |
| 18:10.27 | marthijn | hi all, I'm trying to configure X for my S3 Unichrome Pro... I need help... |
| 18:10.30 | EdibleText | _eLMo_, I suggest you install debian |
| 18:10.34 | marthijn | xf86config is not helping me out |
| 18:10.38 | asg | _eLMo_: try them both; they both have strengths and weaknesses. Fine the one you like and have it. |
| 18:10.43 | marthijn | xf86cfg sets the monitor "out of range" |
| 18:10.43 | xoz | JennyL: are you sure kde is not broken? |
| 18:10.46 | Frem | Looking at "sudo ps x", it seems that X11 gets started with 100dpi. That would be fine, except all my fonts are huge. How do I turn it down to 75? |
| 18:10.53 | JennyL | xoz -- no idea |
| 18:10.54 | marthijn | can anyone help me? |
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| 18:11.02 | arl | hola |
| 18:11.04 | JennyL | I just installed kde with no errors. |
| 18:11.19 | xoz | JennyL: try running another window manager like xface. |
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| 18:11.22 | asg | Frem: how do you start X? |
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| 18:11.49 | Frem | asg: It gets started automagically on boot. |
| 18:11.50 | marthijn | any other command than xf86config or xf86cfg I can use to config X? |
| 18:11.59 | xoz | JennyL: if other window manager gives you a mouse and xterm, then probably kde has problems. |
| 18:12.01 | asg | Frem: so you are using gdm/kdm/xdm/wdm and not startx? |
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| 18:12.12 | Frem | asg: I'm using xdm. |
| 18:12.12 | JennyL | xoz ok..let me try |
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| 18:12.48 | arl | hola |
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| 18:12.55 | xoz | JennyL: blackbox or openbox or fluxbox are simple winmangers to test. |
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| 18:13.11 | JennyL | how do I install xface? |
| 18:13.17 | asv | hi 2 all!!! |
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| 18:13.38 | asg | Frem: not sure about xdm but check in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 18:13.41 | xoz | JennyL: xfce or xfce4 |
| 18:13.43 | stew | asg: no whois is probably right, http://geobytes.com/ was probably wrong |
| 18:13.49 | Frem | asg: ok, thanks |
| 18:13.59 | JennyL | so apt-get xfce? |
| 18:13.59 | marthijn | anyone? |
| 18:14.00 | FliesLikeALap | andrownz iptables-restore freezes every time |
| 18:14.10 | xoz | JennyL: apt-get instll xfce |
| 18:14.12 | xoz | JennyL: apt-get install xfce |
| 18:14.21 | asg | stew: ah, okay. We have something like that in our Moodle instances and it places half of our local machines somewhere in the middle of .au for some odd reason ;) |
| 18:14.37 | xoz | JennyL: then place startxfce instead of startkde in xstartup |
| 18:14.39 | JennyL | thanks ;-) its installing |
| 18:14.41 | Frem | asg: it must be different for xdm, the command in that file has 75 dpi in it. |
| 18:14.42 | goccia | Frem: if irc you should make "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi coming after "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
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| 18:15.18 | marthijn | what does "no screens found" mean when I try to config X? |
| 18:15.22 | asv | how i can get install kde-3.4.3? |
| 18:15.26 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, not my fault lol .. maybe it freezes coz you use it the wrong way .. especialy if it waits for stdin .. you should man a little bit :) |
| 18:15.26 | EdibleText | marthijn, try xf86cfg -textmode |
| 18:15.29 | asg | Frem: see if the manpage for xdm has some information; I always use startx (which uses /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc) |
| 18:15.40 | marthijn | EdibleText: thanks, I will |
| 18:15.43 | asv | deb's? |
| 18:15.43 | Frem | goccia, that makes a difference? X11 is getting started with the -dpi 100 argument. |
| 18:15.51 | FliesLikeALap | andrownz what would it be waiting for on stdin? |
| 18:16.04 | Frem | asg, ok, thanks for your help. |
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| 18:16.18 | xoz | Frem: /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers |
| 18:16.18 | goccia | Frem: i used to do this thre or four years ago if irc |
| 18:16.27 | goccia | but the other way round |
| 18:16.32 | JennyL | xoz: still nothign |
| 18:16.34 | xoz | Frem: add -dpi there |
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| 18:16.39 | abrotman | asv: /msg dpkg kde3.4 |
| 18:16.45 | abrotman | asv: or #debian-kde |
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| 18:17.03 | marthijn | EdibleText: still no screens found :( |
| 18:17.15 | Frem | xoz: Thank you! It has the dpi line right at the bottom. :-) |
| 18:17.24 | xoz | JennyL: is the Xserver in the remote site? what about you try running xfce or kde without using vnc first to know if it works. |
| 18:17.37 | EdibleText | marthijn, you have to create one.. it should have asked with xf86cfg -textmode |
| 18:17.43 | asg | marthijn: some S3 chipsets don't work with X version 4. You might have to use the older X version 3 S3 xserver. |
| 18:18.09 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, because it needs to know what rules you wanna restore ... |
| 18:18.11 | marthijn | asg: really? :( ohh |
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| 18:18.30 | marthijn | can I apt-get X version 3 S3 xserver? |
| 18:18.31 | asg | marthijn: I'm not saying yours does though. |
| 18:18.31 | FliesLikeALap | oh andrownz, i assumed that iptables-save saves the rules somewhere, and restore reads them from said save place |
| 18:18.46 | andrownz | If my memorie's good, you use it this way : iptables-save > myrules, and iptables-restore < myrules |
| 18:18.51 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, you see? |
| 18:18.53 | FliesLikeALap | yeah |
| 18:18.54 | JennyL | xoz: I only have shell access to the machine... |
| 18:18.57 | FliesLikeALap | will test now andrownz |
| 18:18.59 | asg | marthijn: something to try. Take the output of lspci (the bit for your card) and paste it into google with the word linux at the end. See if that brings any information. |
| 18:19.16 | JennyL | "bad display name in add" |
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| 18:19.47 | xoz | JennyL: if the machine has a firewall, it may not allow you to connect. you may use portforwarding using ssh to use vnc but it will be slow. |
| 18:19.48 | JennyL | startxfce: command not found |
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| 18:19.53 | Fackamato | Hi, anyone tried installing glftpd on debian? |
| 18:19.59 | JennyL | no firewall... |
| 18:20.00 | Fackamato | since there's no package ;o |
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| 18:20.28 | Frem | xoz, It works! thanks. :-) |
| 18:20.29 | xoz | JennyL: what about xfce? |
| 18:20.32 | JennyL | im gonna try witha 4 at the end |
| 18:20.44 | asg | Fackamato: any reason you are using that and not something like proftpd, pureftpd, or vsftpd |
| 18:20.57 | JennyL | its working |
| 18:20.59 | asv | <abortman> i like source compilig! ??? |
| 18:21.00 | JennyL | *whew* |
| 18:21.13 | abrotman | asv: then why are you asking here? .. ask #mysql ? |
| 18:21.14 | abrotman | err |
| 18:21.15 | abrotman | shit |
| 18:21.16 | abrotman | ask #kde |
| 18:21.17 | xoz | JennyL: what works? vnc or xfce? |
| 18:21.29 | xoz | Frem: np |
| 18:21.30 | JennyL | xfce |
| 18:21.37 | JennyL | so it is a kde problem then |
| 18:22.22 | xoz | JennyL: yep. better use another window manager and run only the kde apps you want... relying on kde desktop or gnome is a bad idea especially in sid. |
| 18:22.53 | PerfDave | If you want to rely on *anything*, don't run sid ;) |
| 18:23.08 | xoz | JennyL: the value of elimination. you think vnc has the problem, but it's kde. |
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| 18:23.50 | JennyL | good call xoz :-) thanks for your help |
| 18:24.02 | FliesLikeALap | thanks andrownz, figures that was the next thing i was going to try, but I figured it wouldn't work since iptables-save didn't output anything to stdout when called without a path to write to |
| 18:24.16 | eeyore- | eh? |
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| 18:24.22 | asg | xoz: keep your friends close and your enemies closer |
| 18:24.24 | eeyore- | relying on kde or gnome is bad idea in sid? |
| 18:24.27 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, np |
| 18:24.37 | xoz | JennyL: just using the principle of parsimony... usually the simplest solution is the *solution*. |
| 18:24.43 | ke6isf | eeyore-: Relying on *anything* is a bad idea in sid. |
| 18:24.50 | xoz | asg: heh |
| 18:24.53 | FliesLikeALap | andrownz any idea why it doesn't output anything when you just call iptables-save? you would think it'd output the table's contents |
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| 18:26.17 | xoz | eeyore-: how long have you been running kde/gnome in sid? you must not be surprised if you've been running sid for more than a year. |
| 18:26.29 | eeyore- | excessive frugality is the solution? |
| 18:26.39 | PerfDave | I ran sid for ~3 years without any significant KDE problems |
| 18:26.46 | eeyore- | xoz: oh, maybe five years or so |
| 18:26.50 | ecliptik | anyone know of good server monitoring packages? Like one that creates a website and shows if servers are up/down/uptime/load averages, etc? |
| 18:27.02 | PerfDave | Apart from that fortnight when KDE was broken and I had to work from the console :) |
| 18:27.05 | asg | ecliptik: Nagios, Cacti, Munin |
| 18:27.07 | PerfDave | ecliptik: nagios? |
| 18:27.08 | goccia | a minimal kde works very well |
| 18:27.14 | ecliptik | cool, thanks |
| 18:27.21 | FliesLikeALap | ecliptik there's always phpsysinfo if you want a web display |
| 18:27.23 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, that's what i remember it does ... |
| 18:27.24 | xoz | kdevelop was inoperable for some time because of ABI changes... well, it really depends on what kde apps you run. |
| 18:27.26 | eeyore- | xoz: just surprised that broad statements are handed out without raising anyone's eyebrows, but mine :) |
| 18:27.32 | FliesLikeALap | andrownz yeah i was surprised it didnt :-/ |
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| 18:27.37 | PerfDave | Well, I say had to, I could have applied patches from the BTS manually, but I was too lazy :) |
| 18:27.39 | FliesLikeALap | otherwise i would have thought right away to save it to a file |
| 18:27.40 | asg | eeyore-: at least your tail is up ;) |
| 18:27.45 | eeyore- | asg: ha! |
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| 18:27.49 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, you should definitively read man .. since i don't have iptables installed i can't (and don't wanna browse for it :) ) |
| 18:27.50 | xoz | eeyore-: everyone is sleeping! |
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| 18:27.59 | goccia | and whith korilla icons looks decent :) |
| 18:28.06 | FliesLikeALap | ah heh |
| 18:28.28 | FliesLikeALap | andrownz i think the one time i called iptables-save without > mytable, the tables were empty, so it dumped nothing :P |
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| 18:29.10 | FliesLikeALap | time to go to class, thanks for your help andrownz |
| 18:29.11 | marthijn | when I download a .tar.gz file with lynx, it hangs |
| 18:29.17 | eeyore- | is anybody in arizona? |
| 18:29.17 | marthijn | what did I do wrong NOW |
| 18:29.18 | abrotman | use wget ? |
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| 18:29.23 | doomster | heya! |
| 18:29.24 | abrotman | eeyore-: yes .. at least one person here is |
| 18:29.27 | eeyore- | near white tank mountains? |
| 18:29.38 | abrotman | Gnea: do you still live in barbados? |
| 18:30.15 | asg | abrotman: nah, he's in Tobago in his Winnebago |
| 18:30.20 | abrotman | hehe |
| 18:30.29 | PerfDave | marthijn: Are you sure it's hanging, or just busy downloading and not reporting anything to screen? |
| 18:30.29 | doomster | I need a hint, what package/conffile is responsible for triggering a shutdown when I press the powerbutton? |
| 18:30.37 | eeyore- | doomster: acpid |
| 18:30.45 | asg | doomster: /etc/acpi/* |
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| 18:31.04 | doomster | thanks! |
| 18:31.20 | marthijn | PerfDave: I switched to wget - but now I have drivers for the unichrome S3, but there's just some .c files and an Imakefile |
| 18:31.31 | marthijn | PerfDave: I can't believe how crappy all this is |
| 18:31.41 | eeyore- | there was a "bomb scare" in san diego commuter's terminal yesterday. some luggage screeners thought they saw an IED. turned out to be a child's toy, with a cookie attached to it. |
| 18:31.44 | user12 | does anyone know if there is a way to log into an existing desktop rather than starting a new VNC desktop? |
| 18:31.51 | asg | eeyore-: hahaha |
| 18:32.05 | abrotman | it was the cookie! |
| 18:32.10 | user12 | Using VNC - does anyone know if there is a way to log into an existing desktop rather than starting a new VNC desktop? |
| 18:32.16 | Coweater | user12: x11vnc |
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| 18:32.21 | asv | can i get a stable kernel like 2.6.13? |
| 18:32.25 | asg | haha |
| 18:32.32 | marthijn | can someone help me out - my X is not working and lynx does not show correctly what is at unichrome.sf.net |
| 18:32.35 | PerfDave | user12: Yes, using one of the rfb servers |
| 18:32.41 | marthijn | I want that driver, but I have no idea where to strat |
| 18:32.55 | syntaxx | im confused in nick asv and asg :D |
| 18:32.59 | user12 | PerfDave - what is an rfb server? |
| 18:33.00 | eeyore- | user12: no |
| 18:33.06 | Luftzig | so, apparently, it's only a mouse badly configurated, or fried. I'm gonna check if windows likes me mouse, or not. and command-line KICKS ASS! |
| 18:33.09 | eeyore- | user12: however, you can use KDE's own "desktop sharing" |
| 18:33.11 | andrownz | FliesLikeABrick, np |
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| 18:33.16 | sclebo05 | is it possible to get a list of recently installed packages ? |
| 18:33.23 | user12 | \eeyore - I use gnome - sarge |
| 18:33.24 | eeyore- | use12: or gnome ... it has desktop sharing too ... |
| 18:33.31 | abrotman | sclebo05: they might still be in your cache folder |
| 18:33.32 | asg | sclebo05: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 18:33.34 | stew | sclebo05: what version of debian? |
| 18:33.34 | goccia | unichrome up and clear in here |
| 18:33.35 | Coweater | user12: either install rfb or x11vnc, both can export existing X sessions |
| 18:33.44 | sclebo05 | sarge, lemme lookat at that logfile |
| 18:33.50 | asg | sclebo05: if you use sid and perhaps etch has it now. Otherwise, look at timestamps in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 18:33.56 | PerfDave | user12: apt-cache show rfb |
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| 18:34.12 | frontdoor | lo, using start-stop-daemon combined with --user <someuser>, it seems that the started deamon still is referring to /root/.mydaemon in stead of /home/user/.mydaemon. Why is that? |
| 18:34.15 | stew | sclebo05: that file doesn't exist on sarge, it was recently added to testing/unstable |
| 18:34.33 | colin__ | so small... |
| 18:34.34 | asg | stew: ah, so it is in etch? |
| 18:34.38 | sclebo05 | ah, any way to backport ? |
| 18:34.39 | user12 | eeyore - I can share without x11vnc or rfb? Where is this desktop sharing in gnome? |
| 18:34.46 | abrotman | sclebo05: downgrade ? |
| 18:34.48 | stew | asg: yeah dpkg 1.13 |
| 18:34.53 | eeyore- | goccia: what's the state of xorg/unichrome/xvmc/etc these days? still a huge mess? |
| 18:34.56 | Phoul | How do i make the text bigger in xchat? |
| 18:35.09 | PerfDave | KDE's Desktop Sharing is just a built-in RFB client :) |
| 18:35.11 | stew | !dbugs 957 |
| 18:35.12 | Coweater | Phoul: settings > preferences |
| 18:35.12 | abrotman | Phoul: Settings ? |
| 18:35.21 | dpkg | DONE:#957:W[dpkg] dpkg should automatically log everything; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:03:02 UTC |
| 18:35.22 | stew | asg: ^^^ it only took 10 years to implement |
| 18:35.23 | sclebo05 | actually, have sarge on servers, and testing on laptop |
| 18:35.26 | eeyore- | user12: "Desktop" -> "Preferences" -> "Remote Desktop" |
| 18:35.30 | sclebo05 | but i like that dpkg.log |
| 18:35.31 | marthijn | sigh |
| 18:35.37 | asv | 2.6.13 problem for debian stable??????????????? |
| 18:35.48 | Phoul | nope |
| 18:35.50 | haakonn | asv: ??????? |
| 18:35.57 | marthijn | I can't even get a vga 16 colors working |
| 18:35.59 | eeyore- | user12: might be a gnome 2.10+ thing |
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| 18:36.03 | goccia | eeyore-: checking up now |
| 18:36.03 | user12 | eeyore - I must not have a package installed |
| 18:36.06 | asv | haakonn???????????? |
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| 18:36.16 | streuner | !ep |
| 18:36.16 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:36.18 | syntaxx | asv, what problem in 2.6.13? |
| 18:36.29 | haakonn | punctuation wants to be free :) |
| 18:36.31 | abrotman | dpkg: !!! |
| 18:36.31 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
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| 18:37.11 | streuner | haakonn: well, we want a 'free' channel of too muuccccccccchhhhh punction too.... ;-) |
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| 18:37.25 | eeyore- | abrotman: i am trying to decide if i should reschedule dentist appointment and go wheeling with the group in white tank mountains, az |
| 18:37.37 | streuner | s/punction/punctuation/ |
| 18:37.38 | abrotman | eeyore-: you could visit Gnea! |
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| 18:37.47 | abrotman | eeyore-: does your mouth hurt? |
| 18:37.47 | eeyore- | abrotman: isn't he a *little* far? |
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| 18:37.52 | goccia | eeyore-: i'm not use to lynx anymore . i've downloaded something but i can't remember waht and where it is now (wasting bandwith for the cause) :) |
| 18:37.53 | abrotman | eeyore-: afaik .. he's in AZ |
| 18:38.22 | goccia | eeyore-: but yes looking at it with lynx it is a mess |
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| 18:38.27 | stew | goccia: its in /home/goccia/downloads/portn |
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| 18:38.40 | pedro | hello everyone! |
| 18:38.51 | Phoul | wow thats sad :( |
| 18:38.53 | eeyore- | everyone, say "hello pedro". 3 .... 2 ..... 1 .... |
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| 18:38.57 | goccia | stew: get out from my home !! :) |
| 18:38.59 | eeyore- | Hello, Pedro! |
| 18:39.03 | asv | <syntaxx> no problem in 2.6.13, but it's stable:((( |
| 18:39.06 | stew | !hi eeyore- |
| 18:39.07 | pedro | ;) |
| 18:39.07 | Phoul | i live in winnipeg and i chose that time zone and it says its 12:36 |
| 18:39.07 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai eeyore-! |
| 18:39.11 | Phoul | its like 1:34 |
| 18:39.21 | syntaxx | asv, you dont like stable? |
| 18:39.26 | pedro | I am having problems with k3b¿is there a channel about k3b? |
| 18:39.34 | pedro | because I cannot find it |
| 18:39.41 | cheal | pedro: #kde, or #debian-kde |
| 18:39.42 | streuner | pedro: what distro do you use? |
| 18:39.45 | PerfDave | pedro: /msg chanserv list *k3b* |
| 18:39.51 | haakonn | bind question: i have three ip's on the same nic, and want bind to listen on only two of them. if i specify listen-on { my.ip.add.ress }, it stops listening completely. what am i missing? |
| 18:39.57 | pedro | ok |
| 18:39.58 | goccia | eeyore-: firefos say unichrome.sf.net is nice and clean |
| 18:40.01 | goccia | fox* |
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| 18:40.15 | eeyore- | haakonn: bad syntax maybe? |
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| 18:40.36 | eeyore- | haakonn: you can tell bind to listen on any (set of) IP's you want. this works. |
| 18:40.36 | haakonn | eeyore-: there were no error messages as far as i can see, but i'll try some things |
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| 18:40.54 | eeyore- | haakonn: /var/log/*, check for complaints from bind or named |
| 18:40.58 | asg | stew: ah, cool. Thanks. |
| 18:41.01 | jeffb | i'm looking for an opinion on wiki software to use on debian stable, which package and why? |
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| 18:41.12 | wazzles | i got a new 2.6 kernel for debian, whenever I boot I have to make a change to a line in grub, how do i make this change permanent? |
| 18:41.15 | asg | jeffb: I like moinmoin |
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| 18:41.33 | eeyore- | wazzles: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 18:41.51 | asv | <sytaxx> stable is good for debian hackers:] |
| 18:42.01 | haakonn | eeyore-: aha! /etc/bind/named.conf.options:24: missing ';' before '}' |
| 18:42.10 | eeyore- | haakonn: uh hmm |
| 18:42.15 | goccia | eeyore-: looking at xorg/unichrome/xvmc/etc with lunx is a shame : it is a very nice logo!! |
| 18:42.16 | asg | jeffb: python based, file system storage, you can choose cgi, fastcgi, mod_python. Authenticated or unauthenticated. |
| 18:42.20 | PerfDave | wazzles: How did you "get a new 2.6 kernel for Debian"? If you installed it with apt-get it should be fine. |
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| 18:42.23 | asv | ;]]] |
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| 18:42.50 | asv | + debian sources:]] |
| 18:42.50 | Phoul | Can somone help me get my sound working? |
| 18:42.51 | Luftzig | me dear mousie works on Billy's OS. How do i reconfigurate him, and how the fuck did it got unconfigurated? |
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| 18:43.04 | haakonn | eeyore-: that's a config format heavy on semicolons though :) |
| 18:43.11 | jeffb | asg, is there an apt package for it? |
| 18:43.12 | eeyore- | Phoul: try speaking louder, be forceful |
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| 18:43.21 | Phoul | ha |
| 18:43.24 | eeyore- | Phoul: and remmeber, don't mumble |
| 18:43.30 | asg | jeffb: yes, python2.3-moinmoin |
| 18:43.30 | Phoul | CAN SOMONE HELP ME GET MY SOUND WORKING?!?!?!?!?! |
| 18:43.31 | Phoul | there |
| 18:43.38 | wazzles | perfdave: I did apt-get install my_new_kernel, but there is a bug in the 2.6 kernel for ppl with sata drives, I was getting the error "kernel panic: attempted to kill init!", the way to fix this error is to correct my grub entry from root=/dev/hdc1 ro to "root=/dev/sda1 ro" |
| 18:43.39 | PerfDave | Phoul: Not if you shout :) |
| 18:43.44 | haakonn | are there always so many diseased minds here? |
| 18:43.45 | Phoul | wtf :s |
| 18:43.51 | Phoul | ok can somone help me get it working |
| 18:43.51 | sussudio | !irritate Phoul |
| 18:43.52 | dpkg | Phoul: HELP ME!!! how can I make my knoppix werkz !!!! |
| 18:44.01 | eeyore- | Phoul: what's not working about it? |
| 18:44.10 | Phoul | uhh my sound its just not working.... |
| 18:44.15 | eeyore- | haakonn: yeah, and it's picky |
| 18:44.18 | asg | haakonn: it depends on your definition of diseased; I would say there didn't used to be. |
| 18:44.24 | haakonn | Phoul: are you sure your volume is not muted? |
| 18:44.28 | syntaxx | Phoul, do you have a mixer to try on? maybe it just muted? |
| 18:44.28 | Phoul | heh |
| 18:44.30 | wazzles | Phoul: did you get 2.6 kernel? that is what i got to get my audigy card working |
| 18:44.45 | eeyore- | Phoul: in what way is your sound "not working"? |
| 18:44.57 | eeyore- | Phoul: did you plug speaker cables in right? |
| 18:45.08 | Phoul | one sec im checking all of that |
| 18:45.08 | haakonn | my inkarnet isn't working |
| 18:45.15 | cyberWhiz | I'm having some trouble finding an apt package for php5 -- is there one or will I have to go from source? |
| 18:45.33 | stew | !php5 |
| 18:45.34 | dpkg | php5 is currently only available in unstable. if you require php5 for sarge, first check your head, then ask me about <dotdeb>, however, if you use dotdeb packages you are on your own. |
| 18:45.36 | syntaxx | eeyore-, hehe i have problems with my sound card too.. i even get my speaker cables plug in right order.. but it doesnt output any sound :D |
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| 18:45.47 | hagbard | Is it possible to convince apt/dpkg that a package has been removed, even if it hasn't really been removed? |
| 18:45.52 | Fox_1__ | when i connect to the internet (pppd) it's automaticly add my ISP's DNS server names in resolve.conf, but i don't what, because i have DNS in localhost. |
| 18:45.55 | Phoul | erm does debian have realplayer? |
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| 18:46.02 | cyberWhiz | thanks guys |
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| 18:46.04 | Phoul | or a music downloader? |
| 18:46.05 | haakonn | there are some php5 packages on dotdeb.org, couldn't get them working though |
| 18:46.11 | stew | hagbard: why do you want to? |
| 18:46.12 | Fox_1__ | ... i don't want, ... |
| 18:46.35 | streuner | !tell Phoul about search |
| 18:46.36 | PerfDave | Phoul: RealPlayer is available for Debian, though it's almost as much a heap of shite as it is on Windows :) |
| 18:46.38 | EdibleText | doomster,man dhclient.conf |
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| 18:46.41 | stew | Fox_1__: man dhclient.conf |
| 18:46.49 | hagbard | stew: the remove script is failing in one situation, in another, it registers a conflict that I am smart enough to deal with. |
| 18:46.51 | Phoul | rofl |
| 18:46.53 | goccia | Phoul: streamripper is the best for me |
| 18:46.54 | EdibleText | er Fox_1__ ^^ |
| 18:46.57 | Phoul | well uhh |
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| 18:47.03 | wazzles | Phoul and syntaxx: is your sound card detected by the alsa configurator? |
| 18:47.04 | Phoul | streamripper? |
| 18:47.08 | goccia | i get no riia on my way |
| 18:47.14 | stew | hagbard: fix the remove script in one, rebuild the package without the conflict in the other |
| 18:47.14 | eeyore- | syntaxx: alsa? alsa has two volumes (PCM and "Master", both should be up high enough and unmuted) |
| 18:47.15 | Phoul | i dont know but i need to test my sound again some how |
| 18:47.21 | streuner | Phoul: try for 'Real' gxine |
| 18:47.23 | goccia | those idiots |
| 18:47.30 | syntaxx | wazzles, yes it is.. but focused on Phoul i already fixed mine.. :D |
| 18:47.32 | jeffb | I find turning on the radio works quite well |
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| 18:47.42 | stew | hagbard: the remove script is /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postrm or .prerm |
| 18:47.53 | syntaxx | eeyore-, need to plug it in mic socket though.. very weird eh? |
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| 18:48.09 | eeyore- | syntaxx: plug what in to "mic" socket? the speakers? |
| 18:48.14 | stew | hagbard: out of curiosity, what is the conflict? if its something that doens't need to be there, maybe there is somehting the maintainer should do for others |
| 18:48.14 | sclebo05 | good way to see package dates on sarge: ls -l --sort=time /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | less |
| 18:48.17 | syntaxx | eeyore-, yep |
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| 18:48.20 | Phoul | why dont rpm's work with debian like i downloaded limewire off the internet and it gives me a error |
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| 18:48.42 | asg | Phoul: because Debian isn't an rpm based distro and attempts to use them generally result in pain |
| 18:48.44 | eeyore- | syntaxx: then either your sound card is mislabeled or the legend on the bracket are ambiguous |
| 18:48.46 | streuner | Phoul: limewire is in debian too, IIRC |
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| 18:48.54 | Phoul | iirc? |
| 18:48.59 | hagbard | stew: I'm upgrading my mail server - migrating from postfix to courier. I'd like to install courier and get it running on alternate ports before removing postfix. Unfortunately, both of them are mail-mta's and conflict with each other. |
| 18:48.59 | streuner | !IIRC |
| 18:49.00 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 18:49.00 | PerfDave | Phoul: Because RPMs aren't supposed to work with Debian. They work with RPM-based distros. You can try to bodge RPMs into Debian, but it's usually more hassle than it's worth. |
| 18:49.00 | wazzles | if i remember correctly |
| 18:49.06 | asg | Phoul: apt-get install bsdgames ; /usr/games/wtf is iirc |
| 18:49.07 | Fox_1__ | stew i don't use DHCP. |
| 18:49.09 | streuner | !info limewire |
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| 18:49.16 | cheal | limewire in debian? |
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| 18:49.21 | Phoul | huh? |
| 18:49.27 | stew | hagbard: what are you going to do about /usr/sbin/sendmail? |
| 18:49.45 | Luftzig | so like, how do I debug the mouse? it sure is connected and working |
| 18:49.46 | syntaxx | eeyore-, yeah thats a problem.. need to shift it when i shift to windows.. |
| 18:49.54 | marthijn | please help me |
| 18:50.01 | marthijn | I can't even use 640x480 |
| 18:50.03 | marthijn | nothing is working |
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| 18:50.11 | Gumby | does anyone here use NetworkManager? I'm trying to figure out where it gets its settings from and how to set those settings up. ie: preferred networks etc. |
| 18:50.18 | marthijn | S3 Unichrome |
| 18:50.23 | PerfDave | marthijn: /msg dpkg troubleshooting x |
| 18:50.31 | syntaxx | Gumby, net manager from gnome? |
| 18:50.36 | hagbard | stew: hadn't thought much about it. Little if any software uses it, however. Clients are sending mail view smtp; only system scripts would use the sendmail binary. |
| 18:50.42 | Gumby | syntaxx: yes |
| 18:50.52 | stew | hagbard: and /usr/bin/mailq |
| 18:50.53 | syntaxx | Gumby, whats the problem? u cant even what? |
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| 18:50.58 | Fox_1_ | stew so? |
| 18:51.02 | marthijn | PerfDave: I already know it's because X does not have the driver for Unichrome |
| 18:51.02 | eeyore- | syntaxx: that's weird. you mean the function of mic/speaker can be controlled by software? |
| 18:51.06 | lukeduke | to update my kernel (for CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION), can I just copy the running config file to /usr/src/kernel-version/.config, change to CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y and continue with make-kpkg steps? |
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| 18:51.18 | syntaxx | eeyore-, indeed.. i told u thats weird hehe |
| 18:51.26 | PerfDave | marthijn: Oh well, get a graphics card that's supported by Linux then :) |
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| 18:51.30 | Petaris | dpkg: loopbreak |
| 18:51.33 | marthijn | PerfDave: sigh |
| 18:51.33 | eeyore- | syntaxx: never heard of a reprogrammable input/output socket on a sound card .... |
| 18:51.36 | Phoul | umm... |
| 18:51.40 | Phoul | i need something to test my sound on |
| 18:51.41 | Phoul | ... |
| 18:51.42 | hagbard | stew: I don't believe there's any dependency on it. |
| 18:51.48 | syntaxx | Gumby, network manager is just too easy than doing in samba itself :D |
| 18:51.50 | Petaris | dpkg: force-loopbreak |
| 18:51.50 | Gumby | syntaxx: well, as soon as I start it, it just resets my wifi card. I have no idea and cant seem to find anywhere that tells me how to set it up. aparantly it uses hal and dbus but as to how to get it to choose a network i have no idea |
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| 18:51.55 | PerfDave | Phoul: Download some oggs from http://www.whoiselmoblatch.com/ :) |
| 18:52.01 | stew | Fox_1_: you could fix resolv.conf with a script in ip-up.d |
| 18:52.03 | Gumby | syntaxx: I think we are talking about something different |
| 18:52.08 | hagbard | stew: Stew, I do realize that there's a good reason why the two pieces of software are marked conflicting. |
| 18:52.13 | resiak | \o/ |
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| 18:52.15 | stew | hagbard: both packages provide sendmail and mailq binaries |
| 18:52.16 | hagbard | stew: perhaps a better question, can I install courier into a fakeroot? |
| 18:52.19 | Phoul | well wtf |
| 18:52.20 | Gumby | syntaxx: networkmanager detects networks and automagically connects to them |
| 18:52.25 | Phoul | Is theer anyway to dl music? |
| 18:52.28 | stew | hagbard: chroot? |
| 18:52.29 | Phoul | like how do i get limewire |
| 18:52.29 | jeffb | eeyore- the turtle beach santa cruiz sound card has configurable I/O port on it, I go into the software(windows) and tell it what I want that one used for |
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| 18:52.32 | PerfDave | Phoul: Use a web browser? :) |
| 18:52.35 | hagbard | stew: yes. |
| 18:52.42 | Phoul | How do i install limewire |
| 18:52.45 | a1fa | yo.. i got a dual head video card. i want to force the X onto my secondary display, and leave the console on the primary window? |
| 18:52.47 | Petaris | How do you do the force-loopbreak option again? |
| 18:52.47 | syntaxx | Gumby yeah thats what im talking about.. what are yours? |
| 18:52.56 | pure2 | Phoul did you look on limewires site? |
| 18:53.00 | Phoul | yes |
| 18:53.03 | eeyore- | jeffb: neat :-) |
| 18:53.04 | Phoul | its in a rpm |
| 18:53.06 | resiak | Phoul: Do you think we are going to help you break the law? |
| 18:53.06 | Gumby | syntaxx: http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/index.html |
| 18:53.14 | hagbard | stew: or just with a different root, e.g. /courier instead of /, so I have /usr/bin/mailq and /courier/usr/bin/mailq? |
| 18:53.22 | Petaris | dpkg: tell Petaris force-loopbreak |
| 18:53.23 | pure2 | download the other package not the rpm and just run runLime.sh |
| 18:53.27 | Petaris | hrm |
| 18:53.30 | PerfDave | Phoul: Do you want to get your elite warez software working, or your sound working? Concentrate on one thing at a time :) |
| 18:53.32 | Fox_1_ | stew i must remove that script from that directory? does it work? |
| 18:53.37 | resiak | Phoul: Why not download music by artists who _allow_ you to share their music, such as http://www.whoiselmoblatch.com/ as PerfDave said? |
| 18:53.46 | Nick_Hill | Is running limewire against a just law? |
| 18:53.46 | resiak | </rant_and_plug> |
| 18:53.52 | hagbard | stew: I'm trying to do this the debian way, rather than just building the package by hand or other options. |
| 18:53.54 | resiak | Nick_Hill: That's not the issue. |
| 18:53.58 | BobbyGrace | some place i have connfigured that I want a fancy X front end when installing packages and stuff. I obvously dont't have that anymore . The message I get is "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome", "debconf: (Unable to load Gnome -- is libgnome2-perl installed?)" , "debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog".... how can I fix this ? ( runnning KDE as grapfical frontend too, not Gnome) |
| 18:53.58 | tremor | PerfDave: just for information. just tried debian etch with newer kernel 2.6.12 then in sarge, now the orinoco-based pcmcia-wlan card works fine :) |
| 18:54.04 | stew | Fox_1_: i don't know i haven't looked at what is in there |
| 18:54.14 | tremor | the elsa-model |
| 18:54.15 | Phoul | well theres a online radio station i listen to but i dont know how to open it on debian |
| 18:54.16 | PerfDave | tremor: Sucks to be you. |
| 18:54.16 | a1fa | heo |
| 18:54.16 | blaamann | I uncommented the section in .bash_profile file that should enable me to add ~/bin to path, but it does not happen so I need to execute source .bash_profile whenever I log, how can I fix this so it happens automatically ? |
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| 18:54.37 | stew | hagbard: you should be able to install in a proper chroot, but i don't htink it would be easy, you will not be able to install the debian package in /courier/usr |
| 18:54.40 | goccia | but it sounds good !! |
| 18:54.41 | jeffb | eeyore- fwiw, i think turtle beach uses ess chips on that card |
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| 18:54.49 | PerfDave | Phoul: xmms is a media player which can be used to listen to many online radio stations |
| 18:54.50 | Phoul | anyone know? |
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| 18:55.00 | Phoul | xmms can connect to a url? |
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| 18:55.05 | tremor | PerfDave: english is not my native language: what does it mean? |
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| 18:55.12 | syntaxx | Gumby, oh.. where talking something different heh.. i havent use it yet.. cant help sorry |
| 18:55.14 | Vlat- | hi |
| 18:55.15 | pure2 | :| |
| 18:55.17 | Lars_G | Hi all. |
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| 18:55.29 | blaamann | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.29 | Lars_G | I guess Martin Pitt is not a user in here? |
| 18:55.32 | nadius | hi |
| 18:55.45 | Phoul | yeah rythembox gives me a error |
| 18:55.49 | hagbard | stew: How would you suggest I approach my problem? |
| 18:55.49 | azeem | Lars_G: no |
| 18:55.56 | EdibleText | Phoul, mplayer http://mp3stream.wfmu.org |
| 18:56.00 | azeem | Lars_G: what's the problem? |
| 18:56.02 | Petaris | nm |
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| 18:56.15 | blaamann | Phoul: What url do you want to listen to ? |
| 18:56.18 | PerfDave | tremor: It's a pity that you're choosing to run Etch, it's less stable than Sarge. It should be possible to run a 2.6.12 kernel in Sarge, however. |
| 18:56.20 | stew | hagbard: get a working courier config on a staging server, and switch all at once on the production server |
| 18:56.28 | nadius | have hi guysi've problem wit |
| 18:56.30 | Phoul | well im not sure.... like its on di.fm and its hardcore |
| 18:56.38 | Nick_Hill | Phoul, If you get a playlist, you can open and play it in XMMS (which is like winamp) |
| 18:56.43 | nadius | with Xserver startt up |
| 18:56.50 | Lars_G | azeem: I wanted his help, I'm trying to use the patch for pg 8.0.4 on the debian site, to compile a pg-8.0.4 in sarge, patch went well but I have a problem with "debian/rules" and can't find it. |
| 18:56.52 | Phoul | and how do i go about getting music for this playlist? |
| 18:57.08 | nadius | |
| 18:57.09 | azeem | Lars_G: you can't find debian/rules? |
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| 18:57.19 | Lars_G | azeem: Nope it's there... |
| 18:57.25 | PerfDave | Phoul: Yes, xmms can connect to a web stream. |
| 18:57.30 | tremor | PerfDave: ah, ok. i will notice that and try another kernel in sarge. |
| 18:57.34 | Phoul | But how |
| 18:57.35 | Phoul | ... |
| 18:57.37 | Nick_Hill | Phoul, Go to an internet radio site. Click on a link. You will normally get a play list. a .pls file. |
| 18:57.43 | PerfDave | tremor: *shrug* If Etch is working for you , you may want to stick with it. |
| 18:57.45 | azeem | Lars_G: there are some people in here which can help with general Debian package build failures |
| 18:57.51 | Nick_Hill | Phoul, such as shoutcast or di.fm |
| 18:57.54 | Lars_G | azeem: I'm using dpkg-buildpackage as root just in case, and it fails with: /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 175: debian/rules: Permission denied |
| 18:57.55 | azeem | Lars_G: I suggest you post the error message to a pastebin |
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| 18:58.03 | azeem | Lars_G: chmod +x debian/rules |
| 18:58.04 | PerfDave | Phoul: Click on the playlist, then on Add, then on URL. |
| 18:58.05 | stew | Lars_G: chmod +x debian/rules? |
| 18:58.06 | Lars_G | That's all the error I get. |
| 18:58.06 | goccia | shoutcast |
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| 18:58.16 | Lars_G | Ah debianrules should be +x? doh |
| 18:58.17 | PerfDave | Phoul: Or just tell your web browser to open the site's .pls file with xmms. |
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| 18:58.25 | goccia | progressive trance newage chillout : great |
| 18:58.31 | Lars_G | Aye that was it. lol. thanks |
| 18:58.39 | azeem | Lars_G: you should extract Debian source packages with dpkg-source -x <package>.dsc, that sets debian/rules +x |
| 18:58.39 | Lars_G | I'm new to using dpkg-buildpackage, sorry |
| 18:58.41 | goccia | ambient too |
| 18:58.57 | tremor | PerfDave: no no, its ok, that you gave me this hint. :) etch was only a try. |
| 18:58.59 | goccia | music for nerds plenty :) |
| 18:59.03 | marthijn | godd**** |
| 18:59.09 | Lars_G | azeem: See I already had the postrgesql source, so I only got the debian diff in tar.gz format and applied the patch. |
| 18:59.11 | marthijn | why is there no proper program to autodetect X |
| 18:59.17 | marthijn | and to properly install my monitor? |
| 18:59.17 | azeem | Lars_G: I see |
| 18:59.25 | marthijn | xf86config is total crap |
| 18:59.28 | asg | marthijn: there is, something cannot be automagically detected |
| 18:59.28 | sussudio | erm... i sure hope this: http://boners.com/grub/794283.html is photoshopped |
| 18:59.28 | PerfDave | marthijn: There is, it works just fine for me :) |
| 18:59.32 | marthijn | and xf86cfg is same but crappier |
| 18:59.33 | asg | *somethings |
| 18:59.37 | Lars_G | azeem: Thanks for the tips though, I'll keep them in mind |
| 18:59.37 | azeem | Lars_G: anyway, this was a general issue and not postgresql related at all :) |
| 18:59.43 | pumpkin0 | marthijn: because blowing u other peoples montiors is not a good move. |
| 18:59.49 | Lars_G | azeem: Yes, you're right. |
| 18:59.56 | azeem | Lars_G: good luck with the rest of the build |
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| 19:00.09 | marthijn | I can't even get 640x480 man |
| 19:00.17 | marthijn | if I choose it, X goes back to 320x200 |
| 19:00.19 | sussudio | 320x240? |
| 19:00.23 | marthijn | I did not select 320x200 |
| 19:00.32 | pumpkin0 | marthijn: which gfx-chip ? |
| 19:00.35 | goccia | looks like alien desktop |
| 19:00.35 | marthijn | I'm happy with 640x480, but it won |
| 19:00.39 | Phoul | Fuck this is annoying! i just want sound!! :P |
| 19:00.52 | Phoul | erm xmms i cant seem to find |
| 19:00.52 | azeem | marthijn: uhm, this is 2005... |
| 19:00.53 | marthijn | it's a S3 Unichrome Pro |
| 19:00.53 | abrotman | sussudio: think .. 20/500 vision :) |
| 19:00.59 | abrotman | !unichrome |
| 19:00.59 | dpkg | i guess unichrome is the graphics core found on many recent VIA chipsets. Namely, VIA CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400. See http://unichrome.sf.net/ or bother libv. |
| 19:01.01 | marthijn | there's even a unichrome.sf.net page |
| 19:01.03 | PerfDave | Phoul: Why are you trying to get online radio streams working if your sound isn't working? |
| 19:01.04 | marthijn | but I can't read it |
| 19:01.08 | marthijn | because I only have lynx |
| 19:01.09 | sussudio | abrotman: 640x480 was already quite painful |
| 19:01.11 | Phoul | my sound might be |
| 19:01.12 | marthijn | and that displays crap |
| 19:01.15 | Phoul | i just cant test it |
| 19:01.16 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:01.16 | EdibleText | Phoul, isnt an inner dialogue enough? |
| 19:01.38 | PerfDave | Phoul: We've given you several ways to test it, and you've ignored them. And now, for my own sanity, I'm going to ignore you. Best of luck. |
| 19:01.39 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, Have you done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 , answered the questions and selected VIA as the driver? |
| 19:01.42 | Lars_G | azeem: I'll need it, one of the debian patches is failing during build, I'll try to apply by hand and see what's wrong. I guess it was stupid to get the source and the diff from different places, but before downloading the source from debian I want to fix it on this one so I can learn more on it. |
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| 19:01.55 | Phoul | Wtf you said stream ripper and xmms |
| 19:01.58 | nadius | yeah |
| 19:02.03 | Phoul | dude xmms i have no music for! |
| 19:02.09 | Phoul | streamripper dont seem to work |
| 19:02.09 | azeem | Lars_G: do you have all the Build-Depends installed? |
| 19:02.11 | Tortel | xmms rocks |
| 19:02.12 | lukeduke | anyone familiar with kernel building? |
| 19:02.14 | pumpkin0 | i need to copy files 1:1, without changing uid, gid, suid, symlinks,.. is "cp -rp" right ? |
| 19:02.18 | Lars_G | azeem: Yep |
| 19:02.21 | EdibleText | Phoul, are you using alsa? run alsaconf |
| 19:02.22 | azeem | lukeduke: you can assume that some are |
| 19:02.29 | azeem | lukeduke: better ask a specific question |
| 19:02.33 | Lars_G | azeem: It's only a patch failing, I'll try the patch by hand |
| 19:02.36 | PerfDave | pumpkin0: "cp -a" may be best. |
| 19:02.38 | goccia | no way : nothing in sarge is not working : do it again |
| 19:02.38 | azeem | Lars_G: ah, ok |
| 19:02.53 | pumpkin0 | PerfDave: thanks, will test that. |
| 19:02.56 | lukeduke | ok, i'm trying to enable CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION in my kernel |
| 19:03.06 | Phoul | alsaconf dont exist... |
| 19:03.08 | azeem | lukeduke: which architecture? |
| 19:03.17 | goccia | i can even watch vcd in a f* cue file without mounting it |
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| 19:03.26 | lukeduke | but at the moment menuconfig and xconfig are acting up and i don't feel like dealing with ordinary config...this is amd64, studio64 debian |
| 19:03.27 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: I just did this and when I now run startx, it says: "no screens found" |
| 19:03.53 | myren_ | whats the command which changes X resolution? |
| 19:04.07 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, You definately have a unichrome chipset, and selected via as the driver? |
| 19:04.08 | lukeduke | so the actual question is...can i just copy & edit the existing kernel config file (in /boot) and go through with the kpkg kernel process? |
| 19:04.10 | Lars_G | azeem: Hmm patching by hand works. |
| 19:04.14 | azeem | myren_: gnome-display-properties |
| 19:04.15 | nkuttler | Phoul: /msg dpkg faq, read the audio section |
| 19:04.27 | EdibleText | Phoul, apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 19:04.28 | myren_ | no gnome on this system |
| 19:04.35 | myren_ | there's a veyr simple command line util |
| 19:04.40 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, brb |
| 19:04.40 | azeem | Lars_G: make sure you got the right -p value, if the patch consisted of new files only, they might be just created in the top directory |
| 19:04.47 | azeem | hmm, that didn't make much sense |
| 19:04.47 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: ok |
| 19:04.59 | EdibleText | Phoul, (if you run alsa!(you probably do..)) |
| 19:04.59 | azeem | Lars_G: disregard that |
| 19:05.00 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: yes, it is a S3 Unichrome Pro, supports Dx7 H / W |
| 19:05.10 | andrownz | about patching kernel sources : I have a 2.6.10 kernel. can i patch to 2.6.13 directly from 2.6.10 to 2.6.13 with the patch-2.6.13.4.bz2 from kernel.org ? |
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| 19:05.14 | Phoul | No supported PnP or PCI card found. ? |
| 19:05.14 | Phoul | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.14 | Phoul | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.22 | pumpkin0 | lukeduke: the config has to be under /usr/src/kernel-X.Y.Z.whatever and is named ".config". /boot/config is just a copy. |
| 19:05.27 | Lars_G | azeem: I dissregarded it, anyhow the patch triest itself from level 0 to 2, and the patch is a level 1 which is tested for |
| 19:05.34 | goccia | ahhh mine is a pnp and it is working ! |
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| 19:05.49 | nkuttler | Phoul: well, do you know what card you do have and how it is connected? |
| 19:05.56 | Phoul | no |
| 19:06.02 | goccia | next i have a bloody all-in-one and it is working too ! |
| 19:06.05 | EdibleText | Phoul, do you have a sound card.. run lspci. |
| 19:06.11 | lukeduke | pumpkin0: hm, i don't find one under there, but i do have it in /boot/config...can i make a copy of that one (to /usr/src/kernel-whatever) and roll with it? |
| 19:06.29 | nkuttler | Phoul: check the computer manual or whatever |
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| 19:06.37 | pumpkin0 | lukeduke: have you installed and uncompressed a kernel-source ? |
| 19:06.42 | Phoul | EdibleText: join #flood |
| 19:06.49 | lukeduke | pumpkin0: i want to just change it to CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y if that works, since that's the only thing i need to change |
| 19:06.53 | goccia | Phoul: i'm trying to push you up the hill (not the wall) :) |
| 19:06.53 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: "no screens found" |
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| 19:07.17 | lukeduke | pumpkin0: no, i haven't...can i update my existing kernel without reinstalling a new src pkg? |
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| 19:07.32 | nkuttler | !tell marthijn about no screens found |
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| 19:07.41 | marthijn | (EE) No drivers available |
| 19:07.44 | pumpkin0 | lukeduke: no, you need a kernel-src. The kernel-images are not mutable. |
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| 19:08.08 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: the log says (EE) No drivers available |
| 19:08.09 | flipmcf | hi. installed from CD. Having some apt problems (backporting mysql-server-5.0 atm) I get to "After unpacking 123MB of additional disk space will be used.\n Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y" hit "Y"<ret> and it sits at 0% [Working] and will do so indefinetly. any hints? |
| 19:08.11 | EdibleText | heh |
| 19:08.15 | cappiz | someone here has a good HOWTO/guide for secure NFS server over ssh? or something |
| 19:08.22 | Lars_G | azeem: This is what happens in case you know more about this: http://pastebin.com/406940 |
| 19:08.36 | pumpkin0 | lukeduke: pick the one with the same version as shown in "uname -a" |
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| 19:08.49 | Lars_G | azeem: Pathces are there, I tried first one by hand "patch -p1 < debian/patches/01-top-makefile.patch" and it worked without warnings or errors. |
| 19:08.51 | azeem | Lars_G: there should be a debian/patched directory with logs |
| 19:09.02 | Lars_G | azeem: Logs in there? ok I'll read them |
| 19:09.03 | pro | anyone know how to change a passwd from a script, or specify a passwd on the command line? |
| 19:09.08 | azeem | Lars_G: be sure it got applied to the right file |
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| 19:09.30 | azeem | Lars_G: e.g. by reading the diff and checking the relevant files manually with a pager/editor |
| 19:09.35 | azeem | (depending on how crucial the patch is) |
| 19:09.43 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: have you change /etc/apt/soucres.conf ? |
| 19:09.44 | PerfDave | cappiz: You'd be better off doing NFS over VPN, or using the thing that lets you mount shares over ssh whose name I can never remember |
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| 19:10.04 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, dorked around with it a bit. It _should_ be fine, but there could be an issue there. |
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| 19:10.14 | pumpkin0 | pro: try man passwd |
| 19:10.19 | cappiz | PerfDave try figure it out :) |
| 19:10.19 | cappiz | hehe |
| 19:10.23 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, I did just recently add a new deb-src line for the backport |
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| 19:10.24 | lukeduke | pumpkin0: okay, grr, that's a pain, i'll deal with it later. thanks for the help though! |
| 19:10.32 | lancelot24 | good evening everybody! |
| 19:10.33 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: ? |
| 19:10.36 | pro | pumpkin0, tnx |
| 19:10.37 | cappiz | i was to mount from linux to linux |
| 19:10.38 | Lars_G | azeem: odd, odd. level 0 and 1 logs argue the file can't be found. |
| 19:10.40 | abrotman | flipmcf: the mirror could be slow? |
| 19:10.43 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: try the server with ncftp. does the folder exisit ? |
| 19:10.46 | lukeduke | azeem: thanks also for responding. later! |
| 19:10.47 | flipmcf | abrotman, that would be nice :) |
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| 19:11.12 | Lars_G | azeem: Level 2 log adds "missing header for unified diff at line 4 of patch" to the error, could be patch is expecting Unified and the patch is in basic format? |
| 19:11.16 | flipmcf | 'ncftp' I am unfamilliar. will simple ftp work? |
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| 19:11.25 | azeem | Lars_G: hrm, weird |
| 19:11.39 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: sure, any ftp-prog is fine. did running "apt-get update" work ? |
| 19:11.42 | marthijn | I think there are no drivers for this S3 Unichrome in the latest XFree86 yet |
| 19:11.43 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, back |
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| 19:11.49 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, yeah, apt-get update worked fine |
| 19:11.54 | Lars_G | azeem: Let me check the patch file. but it sure is odd |
| 19:12.00 | lancelot24 | i need to link a projector to my laptop on which debian runs. do you guess how could i do to configure the projector under my linux distribution and to switch between the two screens? |
| 19:12.02 | flipmcf | I'm using mirrors.kernel.org fwiw |
| 19:12.24 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, try lspci. what does it say for graphics adapter? |
| 19:12.26 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: wait for about 10 min. That server is slow.... |
| 19:12.33 | Lars_G | azeem: I haven't used diff in ages. which was unified format: +"line" -"line" or >"line" <"line" or | "line" ?? |
| 19:12.42 | azeem | the former |
| 19:12.53 | azeem | or rather, the first |
| 19:13.14 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, then do grep via /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 19:13.14 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc: UNknown device 3108 (rev 01) |
| 19:13.36 | Lars_G | azeem: Then it IS in unified, and it seems to have all correct headers.... |
| 19:13.40 | nkuttler | lancelot24: that depends on your graphics card. try a google search. i never got it working without rebooting with the projector/external monitor connected |
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| 19:13.45 | pumpkin0 | marthijn: which kernel ? |
| 19:13.50 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, hmmm. There appears to be no entry for the VIA chipset in the PCI database. |
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| 19:14.01 | bashman | greetings. i need a streaming server, i will buy a sound card... is need a specific model or a generic model is good? |
| 19:14.03 | marthijn | pumpkin0: 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 19:14.11 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: ... :( |
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| 19:14.25 | azeem | Lars_G: maybe the filename has only one directory node to it, so -p2 tries to strip off more than there are, resulting in the above error? |
| 19:14.29 | lancelot24 | nkuttler thank you it might be a possibility |
| 19:14.31 | usn | hi folx |
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| 19:14.49 | Lars_G | azeem: Ayup youre right... that's it |
| 19:14.56 | pumpkin0 | marthijn: i think the chipset is to new for that kernel. Do you have a exact chipset name ? |
| 19:15.07 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: I can't look at unichrome.sf.net - could you maybe take a look? |
| 19:15.10 | Lars_G | azeem: Now then, why is a level 1 failing to find the file from make when it works from shell... |
| 19:15.29 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: in the manual, it says: S3 Unichrom Pro, supports DX7 H / W |
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| 19:15.39 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, have you seen : http://www.leenooks.com/233 |
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| 19:15.44 | azeem | Lars_G: all the other patches applied fine? |
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| 19:15.50 | Fox_1__ | squid give me an error ACL name 'CONNECT' not defined! what's the problem? |
| 19:15.54 | Lars_G | azeem: I'll match the directory name on the diff by hand with my dir name in the disc, in case it's running from /root so a level 0 will work. |
| 19:16.04 | asg | Fox_1__: have you asked in #squid yet? |
| 19:16.07 | Lars_G | azeem: No, this is the first one and it stops at the error so others are not processed at all |
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| 19:16.13 | Fox_1__ | no |
| 19:16.35 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: so, I have to install a newer X? |
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| 19:16.38 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, Apparently there is a driver for your chipset in included in xorg 6.7.x and up | don't know XFree situation |
| 19:16.43 | asg | !sarge xorg |
| 19:16.46 | asg | bah |
| 19:16.47 | azeem | Lars_G: ah, ok. So it might be a more fundamental problem |
| 19:16.52 | Supaplex | X11 is teh old. try X19 ;) |
| 19:16.54 | asg | !xorg sarge |
| 19:16.54 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg sarge is [1] add these to sources.list without quotes: "deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main" "deb-src http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main" [2] run the following command: apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg [3] restart X |
| 19:16.55 | Ungy | !xorg sarge |
| 19:16.58 | Lars_G | Hmm nope, still fails |
| 19:17.10 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: I have only lynx here, could you maybe help me out and provide a link to the download for X.org 6.7.x? please... |
| 19:17.10 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, Yes. It appears the version of X doesn't recognise your very new hardware. |
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| 19:17.22 | asg | marthijn: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 19:17.29 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, Which version of Debian are you running? |
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| 19:17.36 | Lars_G | azeem: And still, -p0 from /root works now. |
| 19:17.37 | Lars_G | sigh |
| 19:17.38 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: stable |
| 19:17.38 | a1fa | yo |
| 19:17.56 | azeem | Lars_G: I suggest getting the Debian source package to be sure there are no problems due to that |
| 19:18.03 | pumpkin0 | marthijn: update to testing and you may have a chance... |
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| 19:18.08 | a1fa | I have a dual MGA G400 AGP. I want one display to be X11 and other to be console? possible? |
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| 19:18.33 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, do what dpkg says about xorg and sarge |
| 19:18.34 | pumpkin0 | alfa: what about xterm for console ? |
| 19:18.48 | azeem | Lars_G: could be the source is laid out in a slightly different way (in a build-tree instead of directly at topdir, e.g.), which makes patch not find it |
| 19:18.49 | a1fa | pumpkin0 : hm |
| 19:18.56 | a1fa | pumpkin0 : if all else fails :P |
| 19:18.58 | Lars_G | azeem: Could do, but my curiosity is picked, I'll see too if I can get patch to output a pwd to the log too. to see where it's being called from. that and a $* |
| 19:19.14 | a1fa | pumpkin0 : i want one screen to run kde, and the 2nd screen to run konsole in full screen mode |
| 19:19.45 | Lars_G | Bah I'll patch by hand, and remove the patches so they're not processed |
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| 19:20.04 | goccia | konsole in full screen ? screen will do a better job |
| 19:20.05 | azeem | Lars_G: can you paste the +++/--- lines of the first patch? |
| 19:20.14 | a1fa | lol |
| 19:20.17 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: okay, I will - I'm running apt-get now |
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| 19:20.24 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: I already changed the sources.list |
| 19:20.24 | cockslap | how do i find out what filesystem |
| 19:20.28 | cockslap | a device is |
| 19:20.29 | Lars_G | azeem: And yes I'm amazingly stubborn. :) |
| 19:20.30 | a1fa | how can i run kde on one screen, and konsole in another? |
| 19:20.30 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, It appears the info dpkg gives will give xorg 6.8.2 |
| 19:20.38 | azeem | Lars_G: that's the only way |
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| 19:20.55 | asg | cockslap: look in /etc/mtab |
| 19:20.56 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: that would be great! |
| 19:20.56 | pumpkin0 | alfa: forget it. You can't switch betwen the 2 systems on-the-fly like that. |
| 19:21.03 | a1fa | hehe |
| 19:21.05 | a1fa | i dont have to |
| 19:21.10 | loxley | cockslap: df -T ? |
| 19:21.12 | a1fa | i have a scrolling message on my monitor |
| 19:21.18 | a1fa | i will never be using the console |
| 19:21.19 | Lars_G | azeem: http://pastebin.com/406953 |
| 19:21.19 | marthijn | asg: thanks for the info on apt - I hope this works |
| 19:21.30 | cockslap | f~asg: it doesnt list it there |
| 19:21.30 | cockslap | its a raid array |
| 19:21.32 | cockslap | but its not mounted yet |
| 19:21.33 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, If like ubuntu, you will need to instead do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:21.36 | cockslap | box rebooted |
| 19:21.38 | cockslap | and i need to mount md0 |
| 19:21.44 | cockslap | but it says i need to specify fs type |
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| 19:21.49 | Punko | hi |
| 19:21.54 | a1fa | anyway to run kde, but let one screen slip ? |
| 19:22.01 | a1fa | so kde doesnt run on both screens? |
| 19:22.08 | pumpkin0 | alfa: if you are at home with kernel-patching and can use kernel 2.2 ? |
| 19:22.17 | a1fa | no :P |
| 19:22.19 | a1fa | 2.6 |
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| 19:22.37 | Punko | could somebody tell me a program for my TV tuner ? (philips SAA7134) |
| 19:22.41 | azeem | Lars_G: hrm, can you paste the level-0/1 error log as well? |
| 19:22.43 | resiak | a1fa: Just use both with KDE, and maximise a konsole or something |
| 19:22.57 | a1fa | resiak : no.. it needs to be locked |
| 19:23.03 | a1fa | resiak : one screen needs to be locked |
| 19:23.11 | Nick_Hill | Punko, have you tried xawtv? |
| 19:23.13 | a1fa | the problem with this card.. its a single card with dual display |
| 19:23.16 | pumpkin0 | alfa: read this: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/multiuser/ but i don't think it will work like you expect. |
| 19:23.21 | Punko | Nick_Hill yes but i cant change the programs |
| 19:23.37 | a1fa | Pay attention to BusID settings as described in howto. Note that a dualhead board (like Matrox G400) should NOT work through the next steps, as we will be using 2 instances talking to the same hardware. But I haven't tried myself (I'd be happy to try it if any reader wants to donate such video card...). |
| 19:23.40 | a1fa | :P |
| 19:23.43 | a1fa | i've seen this before |
| 19:23.48 | marthijn | Nick_Hill: I installed everything with apt, but still get no screens found - I tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but that's no longer working |
| 19:23.48 | a1fa | it doesnt help |
| 19:23.49 | goccia | konsole full screen is ctrl-shift-f |
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| 19:24.01 | a1fa | goccia : screens have to be locked |
| 19:24.02 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, If like ubuntu, you will need to instead do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 19:24.06 | azeem | Lars_G: I found an old pg-8.0 build log I had lying around |
| 19:24.07 | pedro | I am having problems with k3b and I don't find help in channel kde or debian-kde |
| 19:24.10 | Tortel | ??????? |
| 19:24.11 | Tortel | lolz |
| 19:24.12 | pedro | any help? |
| 19:24.13 | DJ-Marcuzz | where is rc.local, because i need to put vgscan and vgchange -ay in there |
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| 19:24.23 | resiak | a1fa: You cannot do what you want, I don't think. Major architectural changes are neede in Linux AIUI. |
| 19:24.29 | Tortel | pedro: What probs? |
| 19:24.29 | azeem | Trying patch debian/patches/01-top-makefile.patch at level 0...1...success. |
| 19:24.38 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, hey. Waited a while. impatience took over. Edited sources.list - changed ftp mirrors.kernel.org to http http.us.debian.org apt-get update (worked) Same (says 0%[working] and holds) |
| 19:24.42 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 19:24.45 | bashman | greetings |
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| 19:24.48 | goccia | a1fa: i would run "screen" in the konsole if full screen |
| 19:24.48 | a1fa | true |
| 19:24.52 | bashman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.52 | Lars_G | azeem: Both are identical: http://pastebin.com/406956 |
| 19:25.02 | Lars_G | azeem: I found my next stumbling stone, and I am hurdling it. |
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| 19:25.17 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, installed from full CD set, fwiw |
| 19:25.17 | Lars_G | azeem: chmod: cannot access `/root/postgresql-8.0.4/build-tree/postgresql-8.0.4/configure': No such file or directory |
| 19:25.19 | marthijn | asg: it says "failed to initialize core devices" |
| 19:25.20 | azeem | Lars_G: let's see, do you have an empty build-tree/postgresql-8.0.3 lying around? |
| 19:25.27 | DJ-Marcuzz | asg, im a little noob, do you have an path to the file? |
| 19:25.28 | pedro | well |
| 19:25.29 | azeem | Lars_G: yeah, we're getting there |
| 19:25.32 | Lars_G | azeem: But I copied it by hand and it dissapeared. so it's being cleaned. |
| 19:25.34 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: is the rest of your networking OK ? can you download using ftp ? |
| 19:25.36 | Tortel | cause |
| 19:25.37 | cockslap | my box rebooted and i have to mount my raid array /dev/md0/ but when i type 'mount /dev/md0/ /incoming/' it tells me to specify fs type, how do i find out what fs type it is? |
| 19:25.38 | Tortel | !not working |
| 19:25.38 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:25.46 | pedro | I have uninstalled and purged k3b |
| 19:25.49 | a1fa | aight |
| 19:25.49 | a1fa | ;P |
| 19:25.50 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: there isn't one, type '/msg dpkg rc.local' in your irc client and read the factoid. It will explain what to do |
| 19:25.55 | Lars_G | azeem: Nope, no 8.0.x tree lying around. In fact all this system ever had was a binary installed 7.4 |
| 19:25.56 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, let me check. got distracted :P |
| 19:25.57 | pedro | Now I have reinstalled with aptitude |
| 19:25.59 | Tortel | im a gnome personn too |
| 19:26.04 | asg | marthijn: did you do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' as suggested? |
| 19:26.09 | pedro | but when I try to execute |
| 19:26.12 | asg | marthijn: if so, what kernel are you using |
| 19:26.12 | azeem | Lars_G: I mean, in the same directory the debian/ dir is |
| 19:26.20 | pedro | it show me an error message like this |
| 19:26.24 | pedro | k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libk3bplugin.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:26.25 | marthijn | it works!!!! |
| 19:26.32 | marthijn | woohoo, thanks all ;-)))) |
| 19:26.44 | Nick_Hill | marthijn, Great stuff! |
| 19:26.49 | marthijn | yeah, woo hoo |
| 19:26.51 | marthijn | hehe |
| 19:26.59 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, given that I went to http: I brought up http://http.us.debian.org/debian easily in a web browser |
| 19:26.59 | marthijn | so that xorg sarge stuff really worked |
| 19:27.03 | azeem | Lars_G: as I suspected, postgres has a different source package layout as other packages; the .orig.tar.gz contains postgresql-8.0.3.tar.bz2, which gets extracted into build-tree/postgresql-8.0.3, to which the patches get applied |
| 19:27.05 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, does that count? |
| 19:27.19 | azeem | Lars_G: I guess you don't have that layout, as you extracted PG yourself |
| 19:27.21 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: try ftp just to bee sure. |
| 19:27.34 | Nick_Hill | Who is maintaining the dpkg bot? |
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| 19:27.44 | Lars_G | azeem: well i'm using 8.0.4 and I extracted to /root/postgresql-8.0.4 |
| 19:27.47 | azeem | Nick_Hill: it's a collaborative effort |
| 19:27.49 | Lars_G | azeem: And yes that must be it. |
| 19:27.51 | flipmcf | okey. having ftp client problems. I only have sftp installed, and anonymous login I am not familliar with yet with sftp |
| 19:27.55 | pedro | have you read the prob? |
| 19:28.20 | fevel | how do I upgrade to kernel 2.6 |
| 19:28.21 | fevel | ? |
| 19:28.25 | Lars_G | azeem: And, used the 8.0.4 diff file. |
| 19:28.26 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: are you behind a router or NAT ? |
| 19:28.36 | asg | fevel: apt-get install kernel-image; apt-get install a suitable image from the list provided |
| 19:28.38 | azeem | Lars_G: yeah sorry, my build log is from 8.0.3 |
| 19:28.39 | Lars_G | azeem: postgresql-8.0_8.0.4-1.diff |
| 19:28.44 | pumpkin0 | fevel: apt-get install kernel-2.6.XY-XYZ |
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| 19:28.47 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, maybe an better question, i have made an LVM2 volume, how to get it mounted @ boot? |
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| 19:28.49 | Nick_Hill | azeem, Maybe update the unichrome entry for sarge to mention the sources.list and instructions marthijn used to get the KM800 working. |
| 19:28.51 | pumpkin0 | fevel: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.XY-XYZ |
| 19:28.52 | Lars_G | azeem: It's a wide diff from 8.0 to 8.0.4 |
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| 19:29.00 | azeem | Nick_Hill: anybody can do that |
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| 19:29.06 | Nick_Hill | azeem, How? |
| 19:29.22 | azeem | Nick_Hill: /msg dpkg help, but I am no pro at it |
| 19:29.27 | azeem | can somebody do that, please? |
| 19:29.28 | goccia | Nick_Hill: dpkg is not a bot but a cat in disguise |
| 19:29.32 | fevel | pumpkin0: how would I find out the x y and z? |
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| 19:29.45 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: (sftp is a ssh-style ftp-prog. It will not work with normal ftp-servers) |
| 19:29.47 | stew | fevel: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-386 |
| 19:29.49 | azeem | Lars_G: I really suggest to use the Debian source package at this point |
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| 19:29.53 | stew | fevel: what cpu do you have? |
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| 19:30.00 | asg | !unichrome is also see <xorg sarge> |
| 19:30.04 | dpkg | asg: okay |
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| 19:30.18 | Lars_G | azeem: I agree. but I'm not a reasonable person :) I'll try for a few more minutes, and else give up. thanks for your help |
| 19:30.19 | fevel | athlon xp |
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| 19:30.29 | stew | fevel: then apt-get install linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 19:30.41 | DJ-Marcuzz | someone? |
| 19:30.43 | Nick_Hill | goccia, How will that help? |
| 19:31.03 | azeem | Lars_G: you can put the pg .bz2 tarball into the /root/postgresql-8.0.4 directory, and clean it otherwise, except for the debian/ dir |
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| 19:31.15 | fevel | stew: how come k7 and not 686? |
| 19:31.15 | abrotman | DJ-Marcuzz: man fstab ? |
| 19:31.19 | hognutter | how do i get rid of debian without having to rewrite the mbr witha floppy? |
| 19:31.20 | stew | !k7 |
| 19:31.20 | dpkg | i heard k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 19:31.27 | stew | !686 |
| 19:31.27 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel |
| 19:31.27 | abrotman | fevel: because athlons are K7 cpus |
| 19:31.37 | streuner | hognutter: /topic |
| 19:31.50 | DJ-Marcuzz | im the noobhere, i need the freaking thing to work :S |
| 19:31.50 | Lars_G | azeem: Ok I'll try that |
| 19:31.57 | goccia | Nick_Hill: ask ravenbird |
| 19:32.02 | cockslap | how do i check what network card eth0 is ? |
| 19:32.04 | abrotman | hognutter: oyu're hogballs!?!?!! |
| 19:32.05 | cockslap | like what brand etc |
| 19:32.14 | hognutter | hey abrotman |
| 19:32.14 | DJ-Marcuzz | so does one of you have experiance with LVM2? |
| 19:32.19 | stew | cockslap: lspci |
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| 19:32.22 | hognutter | ya i whackd my good debian image long ago.. |
| 19:32.27 | streuner | cockslap: lspci -v | grep eth |
| 19:32.37 | fevel | abrotman: can I get a list of kernels so I could learn about them? |
| 19:32.44 | hognutter | my ex gf burned my notes on how i got it all up and running. |
| 19:32.47 | abrotman | fevel: of debian kernels? for sarge ? |
| 19:32.59 | stew | fevel: he's on etch |
| 19:33.01 | abrotman | hognutter: i can't imagine why she'd so such a thing |
| 19:33.03 | fevel | abrotman: yes |
| 19:33.06 | abrotman | stew: ? |
| 19:33.07 | cockslap | that doesnt tell me if its eth0 or eth1 |
| 19:33.10 | abrotman | fevel: etch or sarge ? |
| 19:33.10 | cockslap | i know there are 2 cards |
| 19:33.12 | pumpkin0 | fevel: http://www.kernel.org/ but it's a tough ride... |
| 19:33.14 | stew | fevel: are you running sarge or etch? |
| 19:33.15 | cockslap | but i dont know which is doing what |
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| 19:33.20 | hognutter | you cant teach a ho how to be a housewife. |
| 19:33.24 | sad | osurdum a.q |
| 19:33.26 | fevel | stew: isnt sarge testing? |
| 19:33.28 | cevizoglu | hognutter, pms = persecuting my spouse |
| 19:33.31 | abrotman | stew: no |
| 19:33.32 | Lars_G | azeem: That one worked out. |
| 19:33.34 | Lars_G | azeem: Thanks. |
| 19:33.34 | stew | !testing |
| 19:33.34 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 19:33.37 | abrotman | fevel: no |
| 19:33.45 | abrotman | stew: sorry .. i owe you a beer! |
| 19:33.53 | stew | sweet |
| 19:34.07 | cockslap | so i know i have 2 ethernet cards but i want to know if my high end is doing internet or network ie what brand is eth0 and which is eth1 |
| 19:34.15 | abrotman | stew: you just have to make it to sly fox to collect :) |
| 19:34.15 | Lars_G | fevel: Testing is sid. |
| 19:34.18 | stew | 09:23 < abrotman> fevel: testing ? 09:23 < fevel> yes |
| 19:34.23 | Lars_G | Or better say Unstable is Sid |
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| 19:34.32 | Lars_G | the new testing, I don't know what it's called. |
| 19:34.38 | asg | Lars_G: etch |
| 19:34.38 | hognutter | i got the net install of debian sarge but its only 2.4 why dont i get 2.6 as the latest. it had better support for my 9600 pro xt and my audigy sound card. |
| 19:34.40 | fevel | stew: I guess now I run sid |
| 19:34.44 | stew | Lars_G: sid is unstable, always |
| 19:34.48 | Lars_G | asg: Etch? well better than retch. |
| 19:35.03 | fevel | I started with sarge but upgraded it with testing repositories |
| 19:35.04 | streuner | hognutter: run 'linux26' at start |
| 19:35.05 | BobbyGrace | where is wine placed when i dowload and install it with apt-get install ? ?? |
| 19:35.09 | Lars_G | stew: I know that, thanks :) I cust confused unstable with testing |
| 19:35.11 | asg | Lars_G: named after the Etchasketch |
| 19:35.17 | Lars_G | asg: Hahahahaha |
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| 19:35.35 | Nick_Hill | ravenbird, How do I add topics to the dpkg cat? |
| 19:35.36 | ravenbird | i haven't a clue, Nick_Hill |
| 19:35.38 | asg | Lars_G: all Debian releases are named after Toy Story characters |
| 19:35.42 | pumpkin0 | hognutter: configure /etc/apt/sources.conf, run apt-get update and apt-get kernel-image-2.6-CPU-typ |
| 19:35.46 | cheal | BobbyGrace: dpkg -L wine |
| 19:35.48 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, ftp works great |
| 19:35.49 | BobbyGrace | hognutter: You have to specify at the command prompt before you install =) but it's easy and quick to upgrade, though |
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| 19:36.00 | flipmcf | had to tweak /etc/alternatives :) |
| 19:36.02 | Lars_G | asg: Ah I didn't know that! |
| 19:36.17 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: and apt-get install still fails ?? |
| 19:36.19 | Lars_G | Interesting little fact |
| 19:36.41 | stew | fevel: anyway, to answer your question, you can see the available kernels with apt-cache search kernel-image ; apt-cache search linux-image |
| 19:36.43 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, no fail per-se , just sits at 0% [working] |
| 19:36.44 | cockslap | so i know i have 2 ethernet cards but i want to know if my high end is doing internet or network ie what brand is eth0 and which is eth1 |
| 19:36.46 | asg | Lars_G: has been since the begining of the project |
| 19:37.05 | Nick_Hill | Who would like to help me add a topic km800 sarge to dpkg? |
| 19:37.06 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, fails on everything. tried installing ncftp |
| 19:37.07 | Lars_G | asg: I only know as far as potato, nothing before. Has Buzz been used yet? |
| 19:37.18 | mfrisch | cockslap nice name |
| 19:37.28 | mfrisch | cockslap ifconfig |
| 19:37.34 | stew | !release history |
| 19:37.34 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06). The next release will be Etch. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
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| 19:37.38 | asg | Lars_G: /msg dpkg release names |
| 19:37.46 | Lars_G | asg: too late |
| 19:37.50 | fevel | stew: thanks, but I wanted some information on kernel (like a website) so I could learn why ky, why i386, why powerpc |
| 19:37.57 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: and you have tried other servers/mirrors ? |
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| 19:38.03 | fevel | *k7 |
| 19:38.12 | asg | Lars_G: it's like tennis. Sometimes stew wins, sometimes I win |
| 19:38.14 | Lars_G | fevel: Each belongs to a different architecture the kernel can be compiled for.... |
| 19:38.16 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, yep. and protocols |
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| 19:38.19 | flipmcf | http and ftp |
| 19:38.29 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, I have a feeling it has to do with CD's |
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| 19:38.53 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: can you post your /etc/apt/source.conf somewhere ? |
| 19:38.55 | fevel | Lars_G: yes i know some basics....i wanted to dive in the subject |
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| 19:39.06 | Lars_G | fevel: In the case of i386 compatible architectures (k6, k7, i386, i486) each version adds support and ussage for the familie's specific features. |
| 19:39.07 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, is #flood ok? |
| 19:39.23 | pumpkin0 | sure |
| 19:39.31 | Nick_Hill | Last Call: Would anyone like to help me add a topic 'km800 sarge' to dpkg? |
| 19:39.37 | Lars_G | fevel: Dude it's different architectures, that's why. what else do you want to know? if it's the internals of each architecture, the best is to read the source, and any white papers you can come by on that arch. |
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| 19:39.43 | asg | pumpkin0: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 19:40.24 | asg | Nick_Hill: /msg dpkg km800 sarge is <reply> [ insert text ] |
| 19:40.36 | sepen | how can I make a snapshot from console |
| 19:40.45 | Ungy | !beer abrotman |
| 19:40.48 | sepen | are there any package .deb |
| 19:40.49 | abrotman | yay! |
| 19:41.01 | asg | sepen: script (if it's not curses based) |
| 19:41.03 | abrotman | sepen: a few thousand |
| 19:41.04 | flipmcf | ty pumpkin0 |
| 19:41.10 | cockslap | so i know i have 2 ethernet cards but i want to know if my high end is doing internet or network ie what brand is eth0 and which is eth1. any suggestions? |
| 19:41.15 | fevel | Lars_G: yeah....I wanted some whitepapers...il google and see what i can find |
| 19:41.21 | abrotman | cockslap: lspci ? |
| 19:41.22 | mfrisch | cockslap ifconfig |
| 19:41.24 | Nick_Hill | asg, What is [insert text]? |
| 19:41.25 | Lars_G | Now "sid" makes sense, great name choosing, lol. |
| 19:41.36 | asg | Nick_Hill: the bit you type that makes km800 sarge meaningful |
| 19:41.37 | pumpkin0 | asg: sorry. |
| 19:41.43 | Lars_G | fevel: Always try at the maker's site first. Intel, Amd, etc. Saves time. |
| 19:41.51 | Ungy | !nickometer cockslap |
| 19:41.52 | dpkg | 'cockslap' is 0.000% lame, ungy |
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| 19:41.53 | sepen | there aren't a .deb for snapshoting |
| 19:41.55 | sepen | ?¿ |
| 19:41.56 | abrotman | Nick_Hill: whatever you want to say .. like km800 sarge is to use km800 with sarge go blahblahblah |
| 19:41.58 | fevel | Lars_G: ok thanks |
| 19:42.01 | Nick_Hill | asg, OK, so <reply> is literal. |
| 19:42.05 | asg | Nick_Hill: yes |
| 19:42.11 | Lars_G | fevel: But, architectures today are pretty evolved, so a single whitepaper with all data will be hard to find, you'll generally end up fetching several documents and parsing data between them |
| 19:42.17 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, so, following dpkg's instructions (simple sid backport) "1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. " should also include commenting out your stable line? |
| 19:42.32 | cockslap | lspci and ifconfig both dont show what i need to know |
| 19:42.35 | cockslap | well they both show half heh |
| 19:42.37 | cockslap | but i cant add it up |
| 19:42.40 | asg | Nick_Hill: the '<reply>' literal can probably be left out these days. |
| 19:42.42 | cockslap | ifconfig shows i have eth1 and eth0 |
| 19:42.47 | Lars_G | cockroach: What do you want to know? |
| 19:42.48 | cockslap | lspci shows the nic brands |
| 19:42.57 | cockslap | but none give me any specification of which is which |
| 19:43.11 | abrotman | perhaps ifname ? |
| 19:43.11 | asg | Nick_Hill: so '/msg dpkg foo is bar, preferrably a good one with decent beer' should work also |
| 19:43.14 | mfrisch | cockslap yes they do |
| 19:43.15 | abrotman | or ifrename .. whatever it is |
| 19:43.24 | cockslap | f~mfrisch: where? |
| 19:43.25 | fevel | abrotman: I installed the kernel with apt-get...do I need to restart the pc (I think not) cause its been on for like 2 weeks seeding torrents |
| 19:43.28 | cockslap | because here they dont |
| 19:43.35 | abrotman | fevel: you should |
| 19:43.40 | Lars_G | cockroach: ??? anyhow, if you need to find which is which, dissconnect the cable from one, run ifconfig -a and check which has link and which doesnt... |
| 19:43.41 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: whatever you do don't use stable and unstable in the same config. these don't mix. and what dpkg-msg are you refering too ? |
| 19:43.42 | stew | cockslap: whichever module was inserted first is eth0 |
| 19:43.44 | cockslap | 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 30) |
| 19:43.45 | fevel | abrotman: ok |
| 19:43.51 | cockslap | ah ok |
| 19:43.54 | cockslap | so the top = eth0 |
| 19:43.57 | cockslap | and bottom is eth1 |
| 19:43.58 | cockslap | thx alot |
| 19:44.01 | stew | cockslap: no, so the bottom of lsmod |
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| 19:44.25 | Nick_Hill | asg, :-) |
| 19:44.26 | mfrisch | cockslap yes and look at their addresses |
| 19:44.28 | nyu | hi |
| 19:44.34 | stew | tarzeau: on the quadra? |
| 19:44.40 | stew | :) |
| 19:44.46 | tarzeau | stew: haha, no an i386 , http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/20051026/boot_screen.png |
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| 19:44.52 | flipmcf | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.59 | flipmcf | dpkg simple sid backport |
| 19:44.59 | dpkg | somebody said simple sid backport was 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
| 19:45.03 | nyu | tarzeau: heh |
| 19:45.04 | goccia | cockslap: are both eth up now ? |
| 19:45.06 | tarzeau | stew: the quadra is at work, under the table next to the centis and openstep box |
| 19:45.26 | fusQuanto | i have two identical HD's, im trying to clone one to the other. how do i do this with dd? is it just dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb? |
| 19:45.29 | stew | hmm should give the fbsd port a try sometime too |
| 19:45.31 | flipmcf | step 3 is where I freeze |
| 19:45.33 | nyu | I just finished my work at Debianising the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD boot screen. Any feedback? (http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/20051026/boot_screen.png) |
| 19:45.48 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: you want to also say bs=1m |
| 19:45.54 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, got it :) |
| 19:45.56 | nyu | it truly has a Debian-ish feel now ;) |
| 19:46.00 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: or it'll take forever, sneek around in www.linuks.mine.nu/ubercopy/ |
| 19:46.08 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, moved the 'unstable' up to top..... and it worked weird. |
| 19:46.08 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: remove the stable deb-src-line. And i don't think that will work ass excpeted... |
| 19:46.16 | tarzeau | nyu: why don't you make the swirl in the original color? |
| 19:46.23 | Lars_G | azeem: Can I ask you something? |
| 19:46.24 | nyu | tarzeau: what color is that? |
| 19:46.34 | flipmcf | so order matters in your sources.list? |
| 19:46.34 | Lars_G | azeem: How do Debian users in general feel about Ubuntu? |
| 19:46.38 | nyu | tarzeau: i just took the same color from linuxlogo |
| 19:46.50 | tarzeau | nyu: 5 or 13 |
| 19:46.58 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: stable and unstable (or testing) do not mix. anything may happen and all bets are off. |
| 19:47.01 | tarzeau | nyu: linuxlogo color is wrong, let me check if 5 or 13 is better |
| 19:47.03 | fusQuanto | thanks tarzeau |
| 19:47.14 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, well, I guess I should just dist-upgrade then :) |
| 19:47.24 | bkwiecien | Do file systems allow custom metadata? |
| 19:47.29 | tarzeau | nyu: i think a checker with 5s and 13s are best |
| 19:47.30 | goccia | cockslap: anyway looking in my logs ai can see eth0: RealTek RTL8139 and eth1: RealTek RTL8139 |
| 19:47.32 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: yes, i recommand testing for desktop-use. |
| 19:47.42 | tarzeau | nyu: you know the lila/pink/violet |
| 19:47.42 | Lars_G | bkwiecien: I think that would depend on the FS. but I do not know about ext2 or ext3 |
| 19:47.43 | flipmcf | and 'simple sid backport' should come with a warning, I guess |
| 19:47.45 | resiak | bkwiecien: Yes. ext3 does with the mount option user_xattr. You'll have to RTFM and Google for more info. |
| 19:47.48 | tarzeau | nyu: vga color numbers i gave you |
| 19:47.58 | abrotman | flipmcf: backports.org! |
| 19:47.58 | bkwiecien | resiak: interesting...how about reiser? |
| 19:48.07 | flipmcf | abrotman, :) |
| 19:48.07 | cockslap | how do i switch network settings IE if i want to have eth1 do the job eth0 is doing how would i go about setting that up? |
| 19:48.09 | azeem | Lars_G: quite diverse |
| 19:48.16 | goccia | cockslap: and grep eth1 /var/log/messages >> eth1: link down so ... |
| 19:48.19 | nyu | tarzeau: what is the vt code? |
| 19:48.23 | goccia | easy |
| 19:48.23 | abrotman | cockslap: ifname |
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| 19:48.28 | abrotman | !info ifname sarge |
| 19:48.28 | flipmcf | abrotman, as you said to me earlier :) oh well. got some good apt experience under my belt anyway |
| 19:48.33 | abrotman | flipmcf: yay! |
| 19:48.36 | tarzeau | nyu: you mean ansi color code? |
| 19:48.38 | bkwiecien | I think that there are already projects going on to describe and index files for searching, but I was thinking of creating my own customized system for handling pornography |
| 19:48.38 | abrotman | !info ifrename sarge |
| 19:48.40 | nyu | tarzeau: yes |
| 19:48.41 | dpkg | ifrename: (Rename network interfaces based on various static criteria), section net, is extra. Version: 27-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 41 kB, Installed size: 68 kB |
| 19:48.50 | Lars_G | azeem: I guess so, what's the biggest percentage in your experience? indifference or despisal? |
| 19:48.55 | azeem | Lars_G: some welcome the ease of use, some frown upon the fact that Canonical is draining Debian's developer pool and forking both the distribution *and* the project, by building up a community as well |
| 19:49.02 | nyu | tarzeau: let's move this to #gnu-kbsd. i feel distracted with so much messages |
| 19:49.02 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: i install the ubercopy .deb, but "ubercopy" isnt the executable, do you knwo what it is? |
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| 19:49.14 | Lars_G | azeem: Nod. |
| 19:49.27 | bkwiecien | I encountered this problem the other day, and I realized how difficult it was to organize a lot of porn (since there are so many variable attributes). This would be an excellent application for metadata and an indexed search engine |
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| 19:49.48 | azeem | it all depends on the amount of insight into both Debian's and Ubuntu's development/community processes |
| 19:49.52 | mfrisch | bkwiecien check out noofs |
| 19:49.55 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: ah i just noticed its in a url heh |
| 19:49.57 | Lars_G | bkwiecien: No need to, there are Gallery applications for kde and gnome that allow you to handle and categorize large collections of images |
| 19:49.58 | resiak | bkwiecien: There is no way that I will recommend reiser for anything apart from symlink farms. |
| 19:50.12 | bkwiecien | They're not images...they're videos |
| 19:50.15 | deepan | what is the command line equivalent to exit in xfce.. |
| 19:50.17 | bkwiecien | yeah, I considered symlink |
| 19:50.29 | asg | deepan: pkill X |
| 19:50.39 | resiak | deepan: xfce4-session-logout on my version |
| 19:50.42 | bkwiecien | a buddy of mine seems to have simply made copies of files, resulting in lots of duplicates. I wanted to smack him |
| 19:50.46 | flipmcf | pumpkin0, thank you for all your help. it was appreciated |
| 19:50.53 | mfrisch | bkwiecien check out noofs |
| 19:50.54 | Lars_G | See oyu latter room. |
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| 19:50.58 | bkwiecien | mfrisch: I'll google it |
| 19:51.03 | deepan | resiak: thanks |
| 19:51.05 | pumpkin0 | flipmcf: np. |
| 19:51.08 | Nick_Hill | !km800 sarge |
| 19:51.08 | dpkg | You may find your new KM800 unichrome graphics chipset is not supported by the X-windows which comes with sarge. You will need to replace xfree86 with a recent version of xorg. '/msg dpkg xorg sarge' for instructions to update to a recent version of X. Then you will need to use dpkg-reconfigure xorg select the VIA driver |
| 19:51.09 | mfrisch | bkwiecien mysql fs |
| 19:51.21 | resiak | bkwiecien: Oh, wait, I'm not talking about for organising your porn. I couldn't care less about that. I'm just saying that that is is the only situation in which I would advocate reiser. |
| 19:52.28 | bkwiecien | resiak: indeed |
| 19:52.30 | azeem | mfrisch: are you one of the noofs guys? |
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| 19:52.38 | mfrisch | azeem NO |
| 19:53.03 | azeem | heh, ok |
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| 19:53.50 | mfrisch | azeem they did try. I have not even played with it yet, but it could be cool. Needs alot of work. |
| 19:54.11 | Nick_Hill | asg, How do I modify an entry in dpkg? I have written an article but realise it needs modifying. |
| 19:54.34 | asg | Nick_Hill: dpkg, <factoid name> =~ s/foo/bar/ |
| 19:54.50 | novent93 | does anyone use freenx? |
| 19:55.16 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: where do i find instructions/manpage/anything for ubercopy? it loads up as a txt file in my browser |
| 19:55.18 | asg | Nick_Hill: you can do it in /msg just in case you make a cockup of it |
| 19:55.40 | Fox_1_ | in which package is mysql.h? |
| 19:55.43 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: read ubercopy.cgi :) |
| 19:55.47 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: or man sdd/dd |
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| 19:55.52 | Nick_Hill | asg, Or in an open session to dpkg? |
| 19:55.55 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: some mysql dev package |
| 19:56.01 | asg | Fox_1_: apt-file search mysql.h |
| 19:56.06 | asg | Nick_Hill: that will work too |
| 19:56.08 | Fox_1_ | ok |
| 19:56.42 | Fox_1_ | asg apt-file command not found |
| 19:56.46 | asg | Fox_1_: install it |
| 19:56.57 | asg | Fox_1_: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search foo |
| 19:57.01 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: index.cgi in ubercopy/ ? |
| 19:57.09 | Fox_1_ | ok thanks |
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| 19:57.45 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: where is ubercopy.cgi? :( the dd bs=1m command didnt work ti said: dd: invalid number `1m' :( |
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| 19:58.31 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: is it supposed to be 1M? |
| 19:58.45 | stew | !apt-file is use apt-file: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename |
| 19:58.45 | dpkg | ...but apt-file is already something else... |
| 19:58.46 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: does 1024k work? |
| 19:58.48 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: not sure |
| 19:58.52 | stew | !apt-file is also use apt-file: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename |
| 19:58.52 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 19:59.05 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: i did it with "1M" and now its going. how long should this take? 160gigs |
| 19:59.24 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: should be fast, you can query sdd |
| 19:59.32 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: maybe dstat(s) shows you some info? |
| 19:59.33 | asg | stew: :) nice |
| 19:59.40 | tarzeau | or wmhdplop |
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| 19:59.49 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: i have no entry for man sdd... what package am i missing? sdd? |
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| 20:00.15 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: yes |
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| 20:00.43 | amorphix | hi |
| 20:00.54 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: how fast is "fast"? 5 minutes? 30 seconds? |
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| 20:01.15 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: getting worried, my old/current HD is making fugly noises, like whining and chainsaw type sounds |
| 20:01.36 | FliesLikeALap | backup your stuff and get a new hd quick? |
| 20:01.41 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke, when i get it running, what is the quickest way to transfer 250GB of data from an windows pc to the linux server on the other end of the network? |
| 20:02.02 | fusQuanto | FliesLikeABrick: im backing up now, got hte new HD in there now. doing dd bs=1M if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb , how long should it take 160 gigs? |
| 20:02.07 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz can you take the hard drive out of the windows pc and put it into the server? |
| 20:02.12 | fevel | abrotman: the new kernel wont startup GDM it says it cant find the nvidia kernel models |
| 20:02.13 | DJ-Marcuzz | nope |
| 20:02.16 | FliesLikeALap | fusero_ppc a while, esp if they are on the same IDE bus |
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| 20:02.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | the data are on an raid0 setupin my game pc |
| 20:02.31 | abrotman | fevel: you'll have to reinstall them .. that's what you get for buying nvidia :) |
| 20:02.37 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: i used to have 15 minutes for 20gb disks |
| 20:02.41 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz 100mbit network? |
| 20:02.45 | DJ-Marcuzz | yeah |
| 20:02.49 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: thats by no means fast :( |
| 20:02.55 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: oh yes it is |
| 20:02.58 | xam | DJ-Marcuzz: probably the quickest way to transfer 250GB is to take hdd out of the windows box and install it in the linux box ;) |
| 20:03.00 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: you should learn what's slow |
| 20:03.00 | fevel | abrotman: hehe I heard their the best for linux |
| 20:03.03 | FliesLikeALap | xam he cant |
| 20:03.07 | FliesLikeALap | xam raid array |
| 20:03.09 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: like, uhm install gnu/hurd (without dma ;) |
| 20:03.11 | abrotman | fevel: whoever told you that flat out lied |
| 20:03.17 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: how old are you hehe |
| 20:03.19 | johnny_nubie | so - how do make cups work for frinter through USB? |
| 20:03.21 | FliesLikeALap | do the math... 100mbit network is 12MB/s peak, so you have 250,000 MB at probably an average of 6-10 MB/second |
| 20:03.26 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: 27, how old are you? |
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| 20:03.30 | johnny_nubie | ( that's printer ) |
| 20:03.39 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: 25 |
| 20:03.40 | hramrach | Hello |
| 20:03.55 | deepan | resiak: i dont have xfce4-session-logout.. |
| 20:04.07 | fevel | abrotman: can I modify the xfree configuration file so I could at least get into GDM and install the drivers in a gui |
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| 20:04.20 | fusQuanto | tarzeau: ok i dont have dstat* , how do i query sdd? |
| 20:04.21 | abrotman | fevel: sure .. if you use vesa |
| 20:04.24 | hramrach | Is there any point in reporting bugs against linux-source? |
| 20:04.28 | abrotman | !tell fevel about nvidia one-liner |
| 20:04.29 | DJ-Marcuzz | ((250 000 / 8) / 60) / 60 = 8.68055556 hours |
| 20:04.34 | abrotman | hramrach: yes |
| 20:04.36 | FliesLikeALap | there ya go DJ-Marcuzz |
| 20:04.36 | asg | hramrach: if it's a debian package, yes |
| 20:04.43 | asg | hramrach: if not, upstream you go |
| 20:04.55 | DJ-Marcuzz | but how do i get the files rom windows to linux @ that speed? |
| 20:04.56 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: man sdd, you can send it signals ;) |
| 20:05.06 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz set up a samba share on the linux server |
| 20:05.12 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: install dstat ;) |
| 20:05.22 | hramrach | It is a package. Packaged kernel source. There are no reports so far which looks weird |
| 20:05.30 | xam | DJ-Marcuzz: install samba on the linux box |
| 20:05.30 | tarzeau | fusQuanto: but really check wmhdplop it's beautiful |
| 20:05.36 | Fox_1_ | !tell Fox_1_ about PCRE |
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| 20:05.48 | DJ-Marcuzz | i tryd samba, but keep getting: cannot acces, check if you have the permission |
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| 20:06.06 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz did you set up a samba user account for the person? |
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| 20:06.09 | fevel | abrotman: wow!! is that all I have to do to get it back on track? |
| 20:06.14 | pizux | yop |
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| 20:06.22 | abrotman | fevel: isn't it great! |
| 20:06.29 | fevel | wonderfull |
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| 20:06.35 | DJ-Marcuzz | and the linux nfs thing, i have an windows programm so i can connect to an nfs thing on linux |
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| 20:06.43 | stew | hramrach: what packge name are you looking for bugs under? i find it hard to believe there is a kernel source package with no reports |
| 20:06.49 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz you'd probably be best off just using samba |
| 20:06.55 | DJ-Marcuzz | no, im puzzeld by the samba thing, i tryd for 2 hours but kept on failing |
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| 20:07.00 | hramrach | linux-source-2.6.13 |
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| 20:07.10 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz i can probably help you get samba working |
| 20:07.27 | acid-trip | has anyone seen frdflint |
| 20:07.35 | hramrach | reportbug does not show any reports, just asks for description |
| 20:07.36 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, ill set uo the server now, so i hope i can install samba in a few minutes |
| 20:07.47 | stew | hramrach: oh that ones brand new and not in unstable yet, so maybe its not so suprising |
| 20:07.58 | johnny_nubie | printing ? usb - debian - sarge 2.6 kernel - cannon pixma ? |
| 20:08.01 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz do apt-get install samba and let me know when you're ready to configure.. i've set samba up about 6 times in the past month with no issues |
| 20:08.14 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke |
| 20:08.35 | hramrach | ok, I will try ;) |
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| 20:08.43 | hramrach | thanks |
| 20:08.45 | Fox_1_ | pcrl package? |
| 20:08.52 | Fox_1_ | pcre package? |
| 20:08.57 | asg | Fox_1_: in what context? |
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| 20:09.08 | cockslap | anyone here know a bit about networking? |
| 20:09.11 | FliesLikeALap | yeah cockroach |
| 20:09.14 | FliesLikeALap | cockslap * |
| 20:09.35 | cockslap | i want to disable eth1 in my box and have eth0 dhcp and be accesible from the outside |
| 20:09.38 | abrotman | stew: that's not the package name i don't think |
| 20:09.50 | FliesLikeALap | what do you mean "accessible from the outside" ? |
| 20:09.50 | cockslap | eth1 is currently gettin internet through dhcp |
| 20:09.50 | stew | abrotman: it is |
| 20:09.51 | abrotman | stew: oh .. it's only in exp |
| 20:09.53 | stew | yeah |
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| 20:09.59 | cockslap | ssh |
| 20:10.03 | FliesLikeALap | k cockslap |
| 20:10.04 | Fox_1_ | asg i found, thanks |
| 20:10.05 | cockslap | outside of my lan |
| 20:10.07 | FliesLikeALap | are you using this computer now? |
| 20:10.13 | cockslap | im in it remote |
| 20:10.14 | abrotman | stew: so is the rc14 stuff |
| 20:10.19 | cockslap | so i can change the settings |
| 20:10.22 | cockslap | and then switch the cable |
| 20:10.25 | cockslap | right? |
| 20:10.26 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke here goes nothing, following the lvm2 howto now, i hope it works, should i dump ext 2 or ext 3 or what on the data drive? |
| 20:10.33 | FliesLikeALap | cockslap do you have physical access to this computer now? |
| 20:10.36 | stew | abrotman: i think 2.6.13 is actually rc14 |
| 20:10.38 | cockslap | yes |
| 20:10.46 | JennyL | Ok, realllllly easy question. I have a debian server and a vnc server set up on it. How do i get the vncserver :1 blahblah command to start automatically? |
| 20:10.49 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz use reiserfs since that supports volume scaling better |
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| 20:10.58 | omry | whats up with the security updates from secure-testing.debian.net? I started to get NO_PUBKEY errors from it. |
| 20:11.05 | abrotman | stew: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=0&exact=1&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=linux-source-2.6.14&searchon=names |
| 20:11.07 | asg | JennyL: /etc/init.d/README ; /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 20:11.12 | FliesLikeALap | cockslap so you can access the computer with a keyboard and display if we lose ssh access? |
| 20:11.15 | JennyL | thanks asj |
| 20:11.17 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke, whats the command to get reizerfs on it? |
| 20:11.19 | cockslap | yes |
| 20:11.24 | SimonRaven | @kernel |
| 20:11.27 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.13.4, prepatch: 2.6.14-rc5, snapshot: 2.6.14-rc5-git6, 2.4: 2.4.31, prepatch: 2.4.32-rc1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.14-rc5-mm1 |
| 20:11.34 | FliesLikeALap | meh DJ-Marcuzz do you plan on resizing the partition size at all? if not, just use ext3 |
| 20:11.48 | FliesLikeALap | cockslap ok, so first we're gonna disable eth1, ok? |
| 20:11.49 | DJ-Marcuzz | i wanna resize it like many times |
| 20:11.50 | abrotman | SimonRaven: not that .. in debian :) |
| 20:11.55 | cockslap | ok |
| 20:11.56 | DJ-Marcuzz | adding disks and removing ones |
| 20:11.59 | FliesLikeALap | ok DJ-Marcuzz, you need to install reiserfs from apt |
| 20:12.07 | cheal | yes! a 2.2.27 RC! |
| 20:12.08 | FliesLikeALap | !tell DJ-Marcuzz about reiserfs |
| 20:12.12 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke ill fo in some sec |
| 20:12.17 | SimonRaven | oh |
| 20:12.17 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 20:12.21 | cockslap | or can we first remove the eth0 duties |
| 20:12.25 | cockslap | its being used for masq etc |
| 20:12.26 | stew | abrotman: if you look at the 2.6.13 package page, its being built from linux-2.6_2.6.13+2.6.14-rc4.orig.tar.gz |
| 20:12.37 | FliesLikeALap | cockslap what purpose does this computer serve on your network? |
| 20:12.37 | abrotman | those bastards! |
| 20:12.42 | cockslap | actually i dont need to disable eth1 i just want eth0 to do the same thing |
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| 20:12.55 | cockslap | it wont when we are done with it i just use it as a httpd |
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| 20:13.09 | stew | hramrach: so maybe you should be trying 2.6.14 and not bothering with 2.6.13 as 2.6.13 is never going to be in debian |
| 20:13.11 | cockslap | so basically what i need is eth0 to be relieved of its current duties and only get dhcp |
| 20:13.19 | JennyL | ts the command to get reizerfs on it? |
| 20:13.19 | JennyL | <cockslap> yes |
| 20:13.21 | abrotman | cockslap: can't you think of a better nick ? |
| 20:13.22 | cockslap | we dont have to touch eth1 at all seeing it wont get lan input |
| 20:13.22 | FliesLikeALap | do you have 2 networks in your house? |
| 20:13.30 | FliesLikeALap | ok |
| 20:13.34 | stew | !cockslap abrotman |
| 20:13.36 | FliesLikeALap | why do you want to switch, just wondering? |
| 20:13.48 | cockslap | because its a low budget nic in use atm |
| 20:13.52 | cockslap | half duplex |
| 20:14.01 | FliesLikeALap | alright, so right now eth1 does exactly what you want eth0 to do? |
| 20:14.05 | cockslap | yes |
| 20:14.13 | johnny_nubie | no help on printing? |
| 20:14.26 | cockslap | and eth0 is sharing the internet connection to the network but i wont be needing that feature anymore |
| 20:14.26 | FliesLikeALap | this might be as easy as just editing /etc/network/interfaces and changing every occurance of eth0 to eth1 and eth1 to eth0 |
| 20:14.36 | asg | johnny_nubie: start with linuxprinting.org and make sure your particular device is supported |
| 20:14.46 | johnny_nubie | thanks |
| 20:14.47 | cockslap | and after that? |
| 20:14.51 | cockslap | inetd restart ? |
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| 20:15.09 | FliesLikeALap | cockslap after that restart both interfaces |
| 20:15.10 | DJ-Marcuzz | i need to do this command: lvcreate -L304.4GB -nDATA-Drive DATA-Array |
| 20:15.16 | FliesLikeALap | don't even need to restart inetd probably |
| 20:15.19 | cockslap | can you give me the command for that please |
| 20:15.23 | cockslap | the restarting of interfaces |
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| 20:15.29 | FliesLikeALap | ifdown <device> takes down the device |
| 20:15.31 | FliesLikeALap | and ifup <device> puts it up |
| 20:15.32 | DJ-Marcuzz | is there a way of instead saiing 304.4GB something like max? |
| 20:15.34 | abrotman | cockslap: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:15.44 | cockslap | thanks |
| 20:15.45 | FliesLikeALap | idk DJ-Marcuzz i'm not very familiar with lvm |
| 20:15.54 | FliesLikeALap | i've only used it a bit, i think it might have been abrotman that helped me with it |
| 20:15.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke |
| 20:16.03 | abrotman | me? |
| 20:16.09 | abrotman | i helped with LVM ? |
| 20:16.10 | FliesLikeALap | was it you that helped me with lvm? |
| 20:16.16 | abrotman | uhm .. helped how ? |
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| 20:16.30 | FliesLikeALap | helped me set up lvm to manage a raid array i used to have |
| 20:16.35 | FliesLikeALap | i might have you mistaken for someone else |
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| 20:16.40 | abrotman | FliesLikeALap: unless it was from the installer .. no |
| 20:16.44 | Lars_G | how do I create a .deb with "ar" by hand if I have all the parts please? |
| 20:16.47 | FliesLikeALap | alright abrotman, never mind then :P |
| 20:17.09 | dondelelcaro | Lars_G: you don't, use dpkg-deb |
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| 20:17.24 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke i keep it at 304.4GB ;) |
| 20:17.24 | dondelelcaro | Lars_G: you can unpack a deb with ar and tar, but you can't pack it properly using them. |
| 20:17.44 | Lars_G | dondelelcaro: Ok. |
| 20:18.10 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke now im goint to install the file system, is reizerfs really the best i read about crash and loosing data? |
| 20:18.35 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: stay with ext3 unless you have a compelling reason not to |
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| 20:18.49 | SimonRaven | 'reiserfs' |
| 20:18.53 | FliesLikeALap | asg he wants to use lvm and be able to resize partitions/filesystems on the fly |
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| 20:19.02 | bkwiecien | how do I change the default page in apache2? |
| 20:19.02 | Lars_G | dondelelcaro: Hmm I'll have to extract control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz don't I? |
| 20:19.04 | asg | FliesLikeALap: you can resize ext3 |
| 20:19.16 | FliesLikeALap | asg but you have to remount in order for it to take effect iirc |
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| 20:19.39 | dondelelcaro | Lars_G: just dpkg-deb -x foo.deb foo; dpkg-deb -e foo.deb foo/DEBIAN; dpkg-deb -b foo |
| 20:19.45 | dondelelcaro | Lars_G: man dpkg-deb; for details |
| 20:19.50 | asg | FliesLikeALap: ah, okay. Then he has a compelling reason perhaps. |
| 20:19.53 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke, how do i get reizer on it? |
| 20:19.58 | mhall | What is the KDE equivalent of gucharmap? I only found a font viewer, not a foreign character manipulator. |
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| 20:20.12 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz did you install reiserfstools from apt? |
| 20:20.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | no, should i search or install directly? |
| 20:20.32 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz search because i don't remember the name |
| 20:20.38 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke |
| 20:21.07 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz reiserfsprogs |
| 20:21.08 | DJ-Marcuzz | this one: reiserfsprogs - User-level tools for ReiserFS filesystems |
| 20:21.10 | DJ-Marcuzz | ? |
| 20:21.12 | FliesLikeALap | yeah |
| 20:21.15 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke |
| 20:21.42 | DJ-Marcuzz | installed |
| 20:21.44 | FliesLikeALap | alright |
| 20:21.45 | jayem | i'm wanting to make /var non-executable on a debian system, so i'm going to have to configure the package system not to use it for its post- and pre-installation scripts. i've set APT::Dir::State, APT::Dir::State::status, and APT::Dir::Cache to directories outside of /var, but that doesn't appear to be enough, because it's still trying to execute its configuration scripts from /var when i install new packages. any ideas here? |
| 20:22.03 | FliesLikeALap | so do your lvm stuff and then mkfs -t reiserfs /path/to/volume |
| 20:22.15 | cockslap | FliesLikeALap: the box gets an ip and i can ping it on my lan, but i cant ping it from outside |
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| 20:22.20 | mhall | jayem: yeah no problem |
| 20:22.21 | cockslap | suggestions? from eth1 this worked |
| 20:22.28 | Lars_G | dondelelcaro: Perfect. thank you |
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| 20:22.39 | mhall | jayem: loop mount the dpkg and apt dirs from an FS contained in a file on /var |
| 20:22.44 | FliesLikeALap | cockroach does the http and stuff work right? |
| 20:22.52 | FliesLikeALap | cockslap* |
| 20:23.02 | mhall | jayem: same thing you do when you want to make a crypto subdrive |
| 20:23.25 | cockslap | yes |
| 20:23.28 | jayem | i might as well make another partition for apt if i'm going to do that |
| 20:23.29 | cockslap | on my lan |
| 20:23.33 | cockslap | but nothing from outside of my lan |
| 20:24.06 | FliesLikeALap | you probably need to forward the ports to the IP of the computer |
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| 20:24.14 | jayem | surely these directories aren't completely hard-coded into apt |
| 20:24.14 | FliesLikeALap | it has a different ip now if you use dhcp |
| 20:24.15 | zezzy | how do u open /etc/X11/config in debian? what editor? |
| 20:24.20 | vortek | Has debian completely givin up on e17 ? |
| 20:24.20 | FliesLikeALap | because it has a different mac address now |
| 20:24.28 | vortek | I've heard its stable now |
| 20:24.29 | DJ-Marcuzz | ReiserFS is successfully created on /dev/DATA-Array/DATA-Drive, should i reboot or just mount? |
| 20:24.33 | cockslap | i did ifconfig |
| 20:24.35 | vortek | and hello :) |
| 20:24.35 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz just mount |
| 20:24.39 | cockslap | to get the current ip |
| 20:24.42 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz you never need to reboot, esp with lvm and reiser :P |
| 20:24.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | how do i get it to mount like /DATA-Drive? |
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| 20:24.56 | FliesLikeALap | well cockslap this sounds like it is just some other firewall matter now |
| 20:25.02 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz mkdir /DATA-Drive |
| 20:25.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | done then? |
| 20:25.26 | FliesLikeALap | then mount -t reiserfs /path/to/volume /DATA-Drive |
| 20:25.32 | cockslap | so i have to check firewall? |
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| 20:25.36 | FliesLikeALap | yes cockslap |
| 20:25.48 | karsten | Anyone know of a bootable distro / disk with LVM support? |
| 20:26.01 | Eddie | Can someone send me to a page where I can read about configuring fetchmail properly? |
| 20:26.12 | FliesLikeALap | karsten a livecd? |
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| 20:26.23 | FliesLikeALap | Eddie just google "configure fetchmail tutorial" |
| 20:26.39 | Eddie | every one I look at uses a different syntax in the config file |
| 20:26.43 | karsten | FliesLikeALap: Yeah. |
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| 20:27.01 | FliesLikeALap | karsten try a debian or ubuntu livecd (ubuntu if you want a GUI) |
| 20:27.01 | DJ-Marcuzz | it gives an clear line beneath it, and doesn't do anything i think :S |
| 20:27.13 | karsten | FliesLikeALap: That's a thought. |
| 20:27.14 | FliesLikeALap | hm |
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| 20:27.31 | jayem | elation:~# strings /usr/bin/dpkg | grep '/var/' |
| 20:27.31 | jayem | /var/lib/dpkg |
| 20:27.34 | zezzy | what is standard debian text editor? |
| 20:27.42 | FliesLikeALap | zezzy nano |
| 20:27.42 | DJ-Marcuzz | nano |
| 20:27.45 | Borg^Queen | Hi people. I just read the OOo2.0 was released and tried to download it. but as it turns out they're all rpms. |
| 20:27.47 | zezzy | k, thanx |
| 20:27.50 | mhall | What is the KDE equivalent of gucharmap? I only found a font viewer, not a foreign character manipulator. |
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| 20:27.57 | Borg^Queen | where can I DL OOo tar installer? |
| 20:28.03 | DJ-Marcuzz | what to do now? |
| 20:28.07 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz i'm not sure, i don't know a whole ton about lvm/reiserfs |
| 20:28.13 | dondelelcaro | Borg^Queen: uh, this is Debian, use the .deb. |
| 20:28.17 | DJ-Marcuzz | do ctrl-c and reboot, and then try again? |
| 20:28.23 | FliesLikeALap | yeah DJ-Marcuzz if you want |
| 20:28.26 | Borg^Queen | Not available yet |
| 20:28.28 | amorphix | Borg^Queen: state your designation |
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| 20:28.29 | FliesLikeALap | i'm not sure that'll help |
| 20:28.32 | Lanix | hmm hello |
| 20:28.34 | Borg^Queen | plus I do a custom install |
| 20:28.37 | cockslap | unknown hardware adress 778 |
| 20:28.38 | asg | Borg^Queen: ask #debian-oo |
| 20:28.40 | Borg^Queen | amorphix: LOL |
| 20:28.41 | cockslap | im getting that error now :( |
| 20:28.44 | Borg^Queen | asg: thanks |
| 20:28.45 | amorphix | ;-) |
| 20:28.47 | dondelelcaro | Borg^Queen: OOo is available in all distributions of Debian. |
| 20:28.53 | Borg^Queen | 2.0 |
| 20:28.56 | dondelelcaro | unstable has 2.0 |
| 20:29.10 | dondelelcaro | if you want it in stable, get a backport of it. |
| 20:29.41 | Borg^Queen | dondelelcaro: On Sarge, how diffucult would that be? |
| 20:30.30 | dondelelcaro | Borg^Queen: if someone else has already done the work, trivial. Otherwise, depends on how capable you are. |
| 20:31.20 | Borg^Queen | Anyone else heard of anything regarding deb packages of OOo2.0? |
| 20:31.34 | FliesLikeALap | Borg^Queen there is probably a deb on the OOo site |
| 20:31.57 | Rawplayer | re |
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| 20:32.12 | Borg^Queen | FliesLikeALap: I've been there for 15 mins. Couldn't find any. |
| 20:32.19 | DJ-Marcuzz | driveraidy seek complete error over the whole screen |
| 20:32.36 | DJ-Marcuzz | keeps on scroller with some dma errors and stuff |
| 20:32.59 | FliesLikeALap | what hard drives are these, and are the ide or scsi? |
| 20:33.06 | DJ-Marcuzz | ide |
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| 20:33.36 | DJ-Marcuzz | an old 200 and an old 120GB ide drive |
| 20:33.36 | FliesLikeALap | onboard IDE or some cheap PCI IDE adapter? |
| 20:33.44 | DJ-Marcuzz | onboard ide |
| 20:33.47 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz how old is the 200? |
| 20:33.57 | DJ-Marcuzz | vew years? |
| 20:34.12 | FliesLikeALap | it sounds like you have problems somewhere else that are causing this severe pain to your volume controller |
| 20:34.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | so how to fix :S |
| 20:34.28 | stew | does oo.o2.0 have mr. clippy? |
| 20:34.29 | FliesLikeALap | DJ-Marcuzz try googling those errors and see if you can find anything out |
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| 20:34.36 | FliesLikeALap | stew gtfo ? :P |
| 20:34.49 | DJ-Marcuzz | it always worked with windows server 2003 now im on linux and it wont |
| 20:34.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | it is an poweredge 500SC server |
| 20:36.18 | jayem | ah well i guess i'll just use a symlink, since it does appear to be hard-coded. |
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| 20:37.35 | tarzeaubsd | GNU/kFreeBSD debian 5.4-1-486 #0 Mon Oct 17 21:40:46 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 20:37.55 | asg | tarzeaubsd: sweet |
| 20:38.04 | doomster | word. |
| 20:38.05 | chealer | tarzeaubsd, we want your uptime |
| 20:38.06 | tarzeaubsd | asg: indeed |
| 20:38.12 | tarzeaubsd | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.20 | chealer | ha-ha |
| 20:38.28 | stew | tarzeaubsd: does irc seem faster with the bsd network stack? ;) |
| 20:38.33 | asg | stew: hah |
| 20:38.39 | abrotman | !ping tarzeaubsd |
| 20:38.48 | abrotman | themolester: turn it off .. please |
| 20:38.48 | DJ-Marcuzz | is there any way to fic my system? |
| 20:38.48 | amorphix | i hate Valknut and I have DC++ even more |
| 20:38.55 | amorphix | why isnt WinMX supported |
| 20:39.02 | amorphix | *hate |
| 20:39.08 | tarzeaubsd | nethack rng is more friendly in it |
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| 20:41.28 | cockslap | how do i check if a nic is set to half duplex? |
| 20:41.45 | asg | cockslap: ethtool |
| 20:41.47 | followmearound | miiconfig ? |
| 20:41.56 | Coutal | cockslap: ethtool or mii-tool |
| 20:42.18 | Coutal | depending on the nic. most support ethtool nowdays, but some still don't. newer ones usually don't have an mii interface |
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| 20:43.09 | cockslap | ok thx |
| 20:43.13 | Coutal | should i report kernel bugs to the debian kernel team, or only debian-specific issues? |
| 20:43.45 | chealer | Coutal, usually debian-specific issues. unless it's important... |
| 20:44.06 | md5sum | okay... something odd... 127.0.0.1 connects promptly with HTTP, but http://localhost/ times out at resolve... wtf? |
| 20:44.10 | Coutal | well, it's important to me :) but i suppose it's otherwise not important. |
| 20:44.31 | chealer | Coutal, whatever you report, it's okay |
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| 20:44.37 | poncho | Hello.1 |
| 20:44.39 | poncho | ! |
| 20:44.39 | md5sum | /etc/hosts has proper entry |
| 20:44.46 | P8ntKid | I just installed debian sarge on my laptop. But when i turn on my computer. It starts to boot and it just hangs where it says uncompressing linux or something. It just stays there. |
| 20:44.57 | chealer | just don't expect normal upstream bugs to be forwarded/fixed in debian patches |
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| 20:45.27 | Matt_ | hello debian folks |
| 20:45.33 | omry | md5sum, maybe the server listens on a different ip or something? |
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| 20:45.40 | Matt_ | i'm having a little problem with the apache 2.0.54 update |
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| 20:45.59 | Coutal | chealer: i know. i'm looking at the bug list and the year old bugs. the thing is, it's a framebuffer bug, maybe i should report it directly to the "uplink" at directfb.org |
| 20:46.09 | Matt_ | i'm getting this at apache start : Apache is running a threaded MPM, but your PHP Module is not compiled to be threadsafe. You need to recompile PHP. |
| 20:46.18 | cockslap | ok i have ethtool compiled now |
| 20:46.23 | cockslap | how do i set eth1 to full duplex? |
| 20:46.30 | Matt_ | but the only thing i did was upgrading both php and apache with apt-get |
| 20:46.33 | Coutal | man ethtool |
| 20:46.33 | juul | hi, i have a toshiba laptop with this weird pcmcia floppy disk drive which linux doesn't recognize. i can boot from it, but linux can't load from the root disk. |
| 20:46.40 | md5sum | omry: server? |
| 20:46.44 | juul | is there a single floppy debian netinist? |
| 20:46.51 | chealer | Coutal, "upstream". if it's an upstream bug not reported upstream, you're being more useful by reporting it upstream |
| 20:46.53 | omry | md5sum, you run some http server, don't you? |
| 20:47.01 | md5sum | omry: yes. on this computer. |
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| 20:47.09 | md5sum | omry: I am trying to connect to my own computer |
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| 20:47.17 | Coutal | juul: if you're bandwidth constrained, try the businesscard cd-rom. save yourself the bother of using floppies. |
| 20:47.20 | cockslap | i checked |
| 20:47.27 | cockslap | ethtool -s duplex full |
| 20:47.29 | cockslap | doesnt work |
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| 20:47.34 | Phoul | Hello folks |
| 20:47.42 | omry | md5sum, telnet 127.0.0.1 80 works? |
| 20:47.44 | Coutal | cockslap: you need to specify the interface. |
| 20:47.48 | juul | Coutal, i can't plug in a cd-rom it's an old machine, and i don't have a pcmcia cdrom drive |
| 20:47.49 | Phoul | i found out my audio card |
| 20:47.56 | Phoul | it just says intigrated audio |
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| 20:48.09 | Coutal | juul: can it netboot? |
| 20:48.22 | juul | Coutal, nope |
| 20:48.23 | stew | !rube goldberg install |
| 20:48.24 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 20:48.29 | Covener | Matt_: I belive alternate (non-worker) mpms are packaged |
| 20:48.30 | DJ-Marcuzz | god damn, the thing still doesn't work :@ |
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| 20:48.50 | stew | juul: floppy? existing linux install? |
| 20:48.54 | Phoul | my audio card just says intigratd audio |
| 20:48.55 | Covener | Matt_: apache-mpm-prefork |
| 20:48.58 | Phoul | how do i get it working with debian |
| 20:49.02 | Matt_ | oh yes |
| 20:49.07 | Matt_ | i tyhink i have seen that |
| 20:49.09 | md5sum | omry: yes |
| 20:49.10 | juul | Stew: huh? |
| 20:49.14 | Coutal | juul: what kind of machine is that? maybe a bios update will enable this functionality |
| 20:49.18 | juul | Stew: yeah i have an existing linux install |
| 20:49.19 | daddius | anyone recomend any good pci eide controllers? |
| 20:49.20 | Coutal | many machines, even very old ones, can netboot. |
| 20:49.20 | Matt_ | so just a apt-get remove apache-mpm-prefork should work ? |
| 20:49.20 | Phoul | Hello? |
| 20:49.21 | cockslap | ethtool -s eth1 duplex full |
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| 20:49.23 | cockslap | doesnt work i mean |
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| 20:49.29 | Phoul | Can somone help me get my sound working? |
| 20:49.31 | stew | juul: /msg dpkg chroot install ; /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 20:49.41 | omry | md5sum, what ip you get from ping localhost? |
| 20:49.45 | juul | stew: thanks |
| 20:49.46 | Covener | Matt_: you want to install that one, causing a removal of the worker mpm. Then php won't complain about the threaded mpm |
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| 20:49.57 | stew | Phoul: did you try alsaconf? |
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| 20:49.59 | juul | coutal: no, too old for that, i'm gonna try stews suggestion |
| 20:50.02 | Phoul | Yes |
| 20:50.10 | Coutal | juul: what computer is it? i'm intrigued |
| 20:50.13 | stew | Phoul: did you install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386? |
| 20:50.13 | Phoul | it says it cannot find a audio card or what ever |
| 20:50.20 | Coutal | i've seen very old computers that can netboot. |
| 20:50.22 | Phoul | i shall look |
| 20:50.34 | Matt_ | E: Couldn't find package apache-mpm-prefork |
| 20:50.39 | shad0wcat | has anyone had any success using apt-build along with distcc? |
| 20:50.42 | Matt_ | maybe apache2-mpm-prefork |
| 20:50.45 | Matt_ | ? |
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| 20:51.43 | Matt_ | oh cool, Covener seems working, at least apache start :) |
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| 20:51.53 | juul | coutal: toshiba libretto 50ct 75mhz |
| 20:51.55 | Phoul | i just downloaded them |
| 20:51.57 | Phoul | now what? |
| 20:52.00 | Phoul | alsaconf again? |
| 20:52.22 | stew | Phoul: yes |
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| 20:52.34 | [GABRI] | any people use chillispot and freeradius? |
| 20:52.54 | Phoul | Woot |
| 20:52.55 | Phoul | it works |
| 20:52.56 | Phoul | :D |
| 20:53.16 | DJ-Marcuzz | could someone have a look at what i did wrong: http://channels.debian.net/paste/981 |
| 20:53.17 | cockslap | 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 30) |
| 20:53.21 | cockslap | ethtool doesnt wrok with that :( |
| 20:53.25 | cockslap | any other suggestions? |
| 20:53.29 | asg | cockslap: mii-tool |
| 20:53.33 | cockslap | tx |
| 20:53.35 | shad0wcat | hmm anyone in here use apt-build? |
| 20:53.44 | cockslap | cant apt-get it |
| 20:53.46 | cockslap | got an url? |
| 20:53.57 | Phoul | when i try to open the stream in music player it says this |
| 20:53.58 | Phoul | OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program |
| 20:54.09 | shad0wcat | Phoul: stop using xmms |
| 20:54.09 | asg | cockslap: it's in the 'net-tools' package |
| 20:54.18 | chealer | !tell shad0wcat about anyone use |
| 20:54.18 | thc | get rid of your oss modules. |
| 20:54.34 | shad0wcat | !beat cheal |
| 20:54.37 | md5sum | hey is there a program to report processes' load on the network? kinda like top but for your nic ? |
| 20:54.41 | shad0wcat | !beat chealer |
| 20:54.46 | Phoul | im not using it anymore tho... |
| 20:54.52 | Phoul | im still just getting that error |
| 20:54.52 | Coutal | md5sum: there's a package called ntop. never tried it. |
| 20:55.02 | shad0wcat | chealer: since you like being a smartass |
| 20:55.12 | shad0wcat | know how to get that thing working with distcc? |
| 20:55.22 | chealer | no |
| 20:55.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | could someone help me? |
| 20:55.31 | cougar` | I hate when I have an application installed on my Debian box but I forget the name of it therefore can't find it :( |
| 20:55.32 | Phoul | im going to reboot one moment |
| 20:55.42 | phogg | shad0wcat: shouldn't it just involve setting your env variable CC to the distcc binary? |
| 20:55.42 | chealer | DJ-Marcuzz, what's your problem |
| 20:55.43 | mhall | Phoul: For some Phoul reason? |
| 20:55.45 | cougar` | It's used to monitor traffic on all interfaces, needs to be run as route, has a GUI |
| 20:55.49 | cougar` | Anyone know it? |
| 20:55.50 | asg | cockslap: apropos |
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| 20:55.57 | Phoul | mhall: im hoping it will stop what ever is giving me that error |
| 20:56.00 | Phoul | it says OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program |
| 20:56.02 | shad0wcat | phogg: hmm I'll look into it |
| 20:56.05 | phogg | cougar`: yeah, it sucks. that's what apt-cache search is for |
| 20:56.08 | Phoul | but i dont know what that program is |
| 20:56.09 | mhall | Phoul: hmm there is a way to fix this |
| 20:56.15 | mhall | Phoul: what you need is the lsof utility |
| 20:56.16 | Phoul | wich is? |
| 20:56.22 | Coutal | finally, opensuse be gone from this powermac. just finished installing debian. |
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| 20:56.26 | mhall | Phoul: which will tell you what opened every file open on a system |
| 20:56.32 | DJ-Marcuzz | chealer, im installing an lvm2 volume, but its giving errors: http://channels.debian.net/paste/981 |
| 20:56.34 | chealer | !beer Coutal |
| 20:56.37 | mhall | Phoul: whether it be disk file, device file, etc does not matter |
| 20:56.42 | mhall | Phoul: it will tell you them all |
| 20:56.43 | phogg | shad0wcat: if not then somewhere in the apt-build config it should have a setting for what compiler to use |
| 20:56.48 | mhall | Phoul: then grep this output for dsp |
| 20:56.49 | bucky | DJ-Marcuzz, try mount -t auto |
| 20:56.50 | cougar` | How do I show just what I have installed? :P |
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| 20:57.09 | followmearound | Phoul, on a system with a crappy sound card (most laptops) only one thing at a time can open /dev/dsp ... so like a sound server (arts/esd) will take it over, xmms being paused, some java apps ... |
| 20:57.12 | asg | cougar`: dpkg -l | grep ^[hi]i |
| 20:57.12 | chealer | DJ-Marcuzz, no clue |
| 20:57.17 | Coutal | chealer :) opensuse is okay, but its support for legacy machines just isn't as good as debian's. ppc will always be a second-class citizen, and oldworld ppc a third-class one. |
| 20:57.30 | Coutal | they put it there for big iron IBM machines and not for macs. |
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| 20:57.50 | Phoul | umm |
| 20:57.52 | Phoul | ... |
| 20:57.59 | Phoul | i dont have anything els open tho... |
| 20:58.00 | cougar` | hi? |
| 20:58.00 | DJ-Marcuzz | what to do achter the mount -t auto? |
| 20:58.01 | chealer | Coutal, if it's not m68k, Debian ought to support it! |
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| 20:58.14 | mhall | Phoul: USE LSOF |
| 20:58.15 | Ungy | Phoul you have an irc client open don;t you |
| 20:58.19 | followmearound | you don't know that .. .something like kde will start a sound server in the BG -- use LSOF |
| 20:58.21 | tarzeau | damn what's wrong with m68k? |
| 20:58.21 | Phoul | Yes |
| 20:58.30 | tarzeau | the best computer (NeXT) started on m68k |
| 20:58.33 | bucky | DJ-Marcuzz, you use auto on raid.. isn't it supposed to be some /dev/md? |
| 20:58.35 | Phoul | USE LSOF? |
| 20:58.35 | DarKnesS_WolF | i installed etherconf what is the command to start it ? |
| 20:58.37 | tarzeau | and the 2nd best computer too (Amiga) |
| 20:58.42 | Ungy | !lsof |
| 20:58.42 | dpkg | it has been said that lsof is LiSt Open Files. apt-get install lsof |
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| 20:58.46 | cougar` | asg: What? |
| 20:58.48 | DJ-Marcuzz | its lvm |
| 20:59.01 | chealer | DarKnesS_WolF, dpkg-reconfigure etherconf |
| 20:59.13 | jeanmi | does someone know BIND ?????? |
| 20:59.24 | Coutal | chealer: it really is a ppc box. opensuse does support it, but it's missing some stuff. debian worked better on this machine, but there were still two noticeable bugs. one i am able to work around, the other not yet. |
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| 20:59.29 | Phoul | ok if i type lsof alot of stuff apears |
| 20:59.36 | jeanmi | i repeat: Does someone very well know BIND ? |
| 20:59.36 | cureless | jeanmi: someone is not here, but when they come back you can ask |
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| 20:59.56 | dondelelcaro | jeanmi: just ask your question, if someone knows, they'll answer. |
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| 21:00.05 | jeanmi | cureless: i understand |
| 21:00.06 | Coutal | one is buggy network driver - but i digged the patch from somewhere. |
| 21:00.08 | Phoul | Umm' |
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| 21:00.28 | Phoul | it just says i have somethign els using it |
| 21:00.32 | Phoul | but i dont know what |
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| 21:00.49 | followmearound | the first column is the program that has it open |
| 21:00.50 | dondelelcaro | Phoul: which is what you use lsof to find out; lsof /path/to/foofile; |
| 21:00.52 | chealer | Coutal, hehe, I'm not an expert in heteroclyte archs. I use i386 only, until I get Debian on my WRT54G ;) |
| 21:00.53 | Coutal | the other is the framebuffer issue that was introduced somewhere between 2.6.9 and 2.6.10, but there was a big redesign of the atyfb driver in that timespan so i can't pinpoint the actual defect. |
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| 21:01.11 | balrog-kun | where does apt store downloaded .debs? |
| 21:01.15 | Phoul | dondelelcaro: i dont know what im looking for tho... |
| 21:01.15 | pro | anyone know how i can add an enty for sudo (/etc/sudoers) to let www-data run /usr/local/some.sh as root ? ( i am well aware of the security implications ) |
| 21:01.20 | followmearound | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:01.25 | balrog-kun | thanks |
| 21:01.26 | Ungy | Phoul, lsof /dev/dsp |
| 21:01.30 | [Confusion] | my sound won`t work what can i do taht my sound are working again? |
| 21:01.35 | haakonn | hmm. if i 'dig mydomain.com', i get SERVFAIL from my local dns server, but from another machine on another network, the lookup works fine. strange? the domain's dns is up and running |
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| 21:01.40 | Coutal | it's a fun experience. i also found a PA-RISC box in the trash so i installed debian on it. but now it's of no use to me. |
| 21:01.47 | mhall | Coutal: hmm parisc |
| 21:01.55 | Phoul | nothing opens if i type that in |
| 21:01.58 | mhall | Coutal: i never ever saw one in person before |
| 21:01.59 | jeanmi | No answer with dig @myIP myhostname.mydomain |
| 21:02.05 | mhall | Phoul: lsof | grep dev |
| 21:02.06 | Ungy | Phoul, then try running xmms now |
| 21:02.06 | dondelelcaro | pro: add a www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/some.sh |
| 21:02.12 | elkid | hm, whats the gstreamer package for making totem play .wmv? |
| 21:02.15 | dondelelcaro | pro: man sudoers; for details. |
| 21:02.15 | mhall | Phoul: somebody could open it through a link or something |
| 21:02.25 | mhall | Phoul: but if it's open lsof will have to know |
| 21:02.30 | Coutal | well they were third to ppc and sparc in the unix world, weren't they? |
| 21:02.57 | pro | dondelelcaro, i did (try) read the man, that why i came here to ask *gRIn* |
| 21:03.01 | Phoul | if i do that grep thing i get alot |
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| 21:03.10 | Coutal | hp was the first to kill its processor line, followed by compaq (before HP swalloed it) and now SGI, sorts of. |
| 21:03.10 | jeanmi | how can i get my dns server work ? |
| 21:03.11 | cureless | jeanmi: explain your question, and, btw, are you running debian? which one? |
| 21:03.17 | chealer | !tell DarKnesS_WolF about away |
| 21:03.17 | Ungy | Phoul try running xmms now |
| 21:03.37 | Ungy | [Confusion], could you be a bit more specific |
| 21:03.50 | mhall | Phoul: also make sure that your user is in the audio group |
| 21:03.56 | Coutal | i mean, mips is still alive, but sgi ain't gonna make no more of them boxes past the tezro. |
| 21:04.03 | jeanmi | cureless: i'm running fedora core, i'm sorry but there is nobody in fedora who wants to help |
| 21:04.17 | DarKnesS_WolF | chealer: sorry i didn't notice :) |
| 21:04.17 | Coutal | so that explains it |
| 21:04.17 | mhall | Phoul: and if you just added the user using adduser phoul audio then you must log out and in |
| 21:04.17 | DarKnesS_WolF | chealer: thx |
| 21:04.22 | chealer | DarKnesS_WolF, no problem |
| 21:04.24 | Phoul | what? |
| 21:04.38 | mhall | Coutal: people are unsure if sgi will make any boxes past anything |
| 21:04.44 | Ungy | Phoul adduser [yourusername] audio |
| 21:04.44 | bucky | jeanmi, /etc/init.d/bind9 start |
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| 21:04.51 | Phoul | i didnt do that tho... |
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| 21:05.04 | Coutal | that's true too - although mips will live on nonetheless. |
| 21:05.08 | [Confusion] | after an update from the stabnle to the testing version my sound won`t work |
| 21:05.14 | Ungy | !beer abrotman |
| 21:05.17 | Coutal | but pa-risc is very dead. |
| 21:05.18 | abrotman | yay |
| 21:05.29 | jeanmi | bucky: i have write: /etc/rc.d/init.d/named restart, is that right ? |
| 21:05.29 | Phoul | brb |
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| 21:05.39 | Ungy | [Confusion], do you get any error messages |
| 21:05.42 | jbroome | dpkg has the good beer |
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| 21:05.46 | bucky | jeanmi, which version of debian do you have/ |
| 21:05.48 | [Confusion] | yeah |
| 21:05.53 | cureless | jeanmi: those are things that depend on distribution, you need to ask #fedora |
| 21:06.00 | loxley | jeanmi: yes, its called that in fedora |
| 21:06.03 | cureless | bucky: jeanmi runs Fedora. |
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| 21:06.14 | bucky | haha.. ok |
| 21:06.22 | Ungy | [Confusion], it woudl help if you let us know the error message to better help you |
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| 21:06.46 | [Confusion] | one moment pls |
| 21:06.52 | jeanmi | bucky: cureless: Fedora is not a good distrib for that ? |
| 21:07.02 | cockslap | is there a way to make a certain command be ran from anywhere with 1 word ? |
| 21:07.15 | fbi | cockslap: alias |
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| 21:07.20 | stew | cockslap: help alias |
| 21:07.20 | bucky | jeanmi, #fedora is a better channel to ask fedora questions |
| 21:07.22 | cockslap | tx |
| 21:07.23 | Phoul | umm guys ok |
| 21:07.25 | Phoul | i have sound effects |
| 21:07.27 | cureless | jeanmi: this is #debian |
| 21:07.28 | Phoul | but no music sound |
| 21:07.29 | fbi | !tx |
| 21:07.29 | dpkg | i heard tx is transmit. Texas, or thanks |
| 21:07.39 | jeanmi | bucky: ok i will go to fedora |
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| 21:09.00 | Ungy | Phoul, when you get a sound effect quickly run lsof /dev/dsp |
| 21:09.01 | Phoul | guys |
| 21:09.12 | Phoul | Why? |
| 21:09.26 | stew | Phoul: what kind of sound effect? like coming from your window manager? |
| 21:09.32 | Phoul | Yes |
| 21:09.33 | tarzeaubsd | i can also make sound effects |
| 21:09.39 | bucky | he doesn't have codecs |
| 21:09.42 | cockslap | that help told me pretty much nothing |
| 21:09.43 | cockslap | heh |
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| 21:09.49 | cockslap | how do i remove an alias |
| 21:09.54 | stew | cockslap: unalias |
| 21:09.54 | cockslap | help doesnt say it |
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| 21:10.04 | Phoul | stew: Yes |
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| 21:10.10 | cockslap | i cant put spaces in my aliases can i? |
| 21:10.13 | tarzeaubsd | cockslap: can you change your nick? |
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| 21:10.21 | cockslap | because i want to rm -rf /blah/blah/temp |
| 21:10.21 | stew | cockslap: for insatnce alias l='ls -l' |
| 21:10.25 | P8ntKid | Does anybody know much about qtparted? Cuase its not letting me resize a partition. |
| 21:10.32 | dli__ | cockroach, ' rm -rf ' |
| 21:10.34 | tarzeaubsd | P8ntKid: it worked fine for me |
| 21:10.43 | cockslap | ah ' thx |
| 21:10.49 | fbi | wtf is qtparted? some kind of kde front end for parted? |
| 21:11.04 | abrotman | fbi: yes afaik |
| 21:11.07 | phogg | fbi: qt front end, yes. QT != KDE |
| 21:11.09 | fbi | cute. |
| 21:11.27 | stew | its not in sarge because it was too buggy, which makes me weary of using it on real data |
| 21:11.37 | dli__ | cockroach, the nick is fine for me. nothing offending in my language at least |
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| 21:11.55 | abrotman | yes .. but cockslap really should change his nick |
| 21:11.56 | P8ntKid | tarzeaubsd: Is it becuase im trying to resize the partition im currently on? |
| 21:12.00 | abrotman | or we could just get him kicked :) |
| 21:12.22 | bucky | we just have to type out five letters before tab complete.. "cock?" |
| 21:12.30 | Ungy | I was wandering why that nick was allowed |
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| 21:12.50 | abrotman | next time an op strolls by .. ask them to ban just that nick .. not the IP |
| 21:12.56 | dli__ | maybe, it means something else in his own language :( |
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| 21:13.08 | abrotman | dli__: what other meaning could it have ? |
| 21:13.19 | Ungy | he slaps chickens |
| 21:13.22 | phogg | dli_I['m sure it means "Look what I can get away with" in his language |
| 21:13.29 | stew | the lap of a male chicken? |
| 21:13.33 | bucky | that's how fathers discipline their children where he's from |
| 21:13.33 | Phoul | arg it wont play off my disk |
| 21:13.38 | tarzeau | P8ntKid: yeah , bad idea |
| 21:13.43 | fbi | isn't a male chicken a rooster? |
| 21:13.44 | Ungy | stew a rooster? |
| 21:13.47 | Phoul | i cant get music playing off of my disk |
| 21:13.51 | phogg | fbi: also known as a cock |
| 21:13.54 | fbi | ah. |
| 21:13.57 | tarzeau | Phoul: i can |
| 21:14.00 | fbi | either way, the nick is dumb. |
| 21:14.05 | dli__ | abrotman, I just read from engrish.com, shiting could mean something quite elegant |
| 21:14.13 | abrotman | doubtful |
| 21:14.15 | stew | Ungy: rooster and cock are synonyms |
| 21:14.15 | bucky | !tell Phoul about marillat |
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| 21:14.35 | phogg | roosterslap just doesn't have that ring to it |
| 21:14.42 | Ungy | stew oh really I thought cock and penis were synonyms |
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| 21:15.05 | phogg | Ungy: cock is a slang term for penis but a synonym for rooster |
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| 21:15.06 | Ungy | stew that makes sense though thinking of cock fighting and all now makes sense |
| 21:15.13 | stew | Ungy: cock is also a vulgar coloquialism for penis |
| 21:15.51 | Ungy | well dick is Short for Richard right? |
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| 21:15.59 | Ungy | so I can be dickslap? |
| 21:16.00 | Ronin | Ungy: technically yest |
| 21:16.02 | Ronin | yes |
| 21:16.04 | Eddie | how do i make an automatically mounted NTFS partition user readable |
| 21:16.09 | Eddie | ive inserted the "user" option in fstab |
| 21:16.13 | Eddie | and its having no effect |
| 21:16.17 | fbi | Ungy: richardslap doesn't really make much sense. |
| 21:16.26 | stew | Eddie: user is for who can mount it, you want uid and gid |
| 21:16.33 | Eddie | thanks |
| 21:16.34 | Ungy | fbi it is in richards lap |
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| 21:17.12 | Ungy | just like water gate all ended up in Dickslap |
| 21:17.34 | fbi | Ungy: we can drop it now. |
| 21:17.34 | [Deek] | ITYM "dmask" |
| 21:17.38 | Eddie | stew: ive been trying for half an hour in #Ubuntu for that answer |
| 21:17.41 | [Deek] | and "fmask" |
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| 21:17.51 | Ungy | Eddie this is nto #ubuntu |
| 21:18.12 | tarzeaubsd | !they don't know |
| 21:18.12 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 21:18.30 | stew | Eddie: 5 minutes with the mount manpage would have been more fruitful |
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| 21:18.36 | Eddie | Ungy, you're kidding me sherlock |
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| 21:18.56 | Ungy | hahaha So tarzeaubsd ths it debian bsd I assume? |
| 21:18.58 | Takekuru | Evenin' boys and girls. |
| 21:19.07 | [Deek] | Sorry, for ntfs it's umask |
| 21:19.11 | tarzeaubsd | Ungy: /ctcp tarzeaubsd version |
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| 21:19.26 | Takekuru | (Getting into gnome, anyone?) |
| 21:19.30 | deepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.32 | fbi | tarzeaubsd: how is that coming anyway, i haven't booted kbsd in a while |
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| 21:19.43 | tarzeaubsd | fbi: the new installer is fantastic |
| 21:19.48 | fbi | nice. |
| 21:19.49 | tarzeaubsd | fbi: small, fast, easy, just works |
| 21:19.53 | fbi | still a bsd installer though? |
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| 21:20.09 | tarzeaubsd | fbi: still? the first time i see it it's a fbsd installer (one cd) |
| 21:20.21 | tarzeaubsd | fbi: the other was not an installer at all |
| 21:20.22 | [Deek] | options user, gid=users, umask=0660 could work |
| 21:20.42 | [Deek] | Or 0640 |
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| 21:20.50 | tarzeaubsd | fbi: there's even special kernels like kfreebsd-image-5-686-smp now :) |
| 21:21.01 | fbi | tarzeaubsd: niiiiiiiice. |
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| 21:22.11 | ZeZu | I know there is a lot of problems getting ati drivers to work in newer kernels and versions of xorg |
| 21:22.37 | ZeZu | does anyone havea radeon9800 pro and get drivers working properly in debian ? |
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| 21:22.44 | Ungy | !tell ZeZu about ATI |
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| 21:22.52 | ZeZu | i have an intel agp |
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| 21:22.59 | Ungy | !ati |
| 21:22.59 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 21:23.00 | tarzeaubsd | Coutal: send them an email? |
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| 21:23.48 | baron | i'm using a recent version of debian and none of my applications can detect my usb joystick, though whenever i plug there are messages that are printed out that look as though the joystick had been recognized, can anyone help? |
| 21:24.00 | Coutal | i guess i should. but they're space constrained so maybe i should arrange for donations to buy them a disk |
| 21:24.08 | tarzeaubsd | baron: usb or something else? |
| 21:24.10 | Takekuru | Does anyone have some linkage on basic information? (i.e. launching programs after i've got them from aptitude [gnome]) |
| 21:24.27 | ZeZu | ;( yea unfortunately all the distros have sent me to a site like that |
| 21:24.29 | Ungy | Takekuru, what programs? |
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| 21:24.32 | ZeZu | no matter what i do it never works |
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| 21:24.39 | Phoul | Hmmmm |
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| 21:24.45 | Ungy | ZeZu, by an NVidia card |
| 21:24.49 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: i got it to work once (wasn't my card) |
| 21:24.51 | Ungy | Gnea yes |
| 21:24.51 | Phoul | Well darn i need to be able to listen to my radio station tonight.... |
| 21:24.51 | ZeZu | i'm not a total noob and i've patched etc etc |
| 21:24.53 | baron | tarzeau, USB |
| 21:24.54 | tarzeaubsd | Ungy: same shit |
| 21:25.04 | ZeZu | Ungy: and all linux guys tell me that too |
| 21:25.06 | ZeZu | its too late |
| 21:25.10 | ZeZu | i have an ati card |
| 21:25.11 | baron | tarzeau, the messages say usb this, hid that |
| 21:25.20 | stew | ZeZu: do you actually need 3d accelleration? |
| 21:25.25 | ZeZu | yes |
| 21:25.27 | bucky | Takekuru, apt-cache show menu install it if you don't have it and log in and log out |
| 21:25.28 | tarzeaubsd | baron: maybe you need the usb joystick module? |
| 21:25.28 | Ungy | ZeZu I got my 9600 pro workign and it was a pain int he butt and I never want to go through it again |
| 21:25.29 | PadrePio | yes |
| 21:25.35 | ZeZu | i'm trying to port some of my apps |
| 21:25.38 | Gnea | Ungy: let's take this to PM so it's away from the topic, agreed? |
| 21:25.39 | baron | tarzeau, how can i get that? |
| 21:25.40 | ZeZu | and they NEED 3d accell |
| 21:25.41 | [Confusion] | ungy if got the error massage now |
| 21:25.43 | websdale | Takemuru:A lot of programs will be found in the menu, the debian one if not the gnome one, otherwise you can launch a program from a terminal |
| 21:25.44 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: what apps are that? |
| 21:25.45 | PadrePio | yes |
| 21:25.48 | Ungy | Gnea ok |
| 21:25.50 | ZeZu | a few emulators |
| 21:25.53 | [Confusion] | Sound server informational message: |
| 21:25.53 | [Confusion] | Error while initializing the sound driver: |
| 21:25.53 | [Confusion] | device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory) |
| 21:25.53 | [Confusion] | The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
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| 21:25.54 | tarzeaubsd | baron: look in /lib/modules or run modconf |
| 21:26.01 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: which , exactly? |
| 21:26.01 | baron | tarzeau, ok |
| 21:26.11 | Phoul | Anyone? |
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| 21:26.17 | ZeZu | they are not public, one of is based from Icarus project (kindof) |
| 21:26.18 | bucky | Takekuru, apt-get install menu log out and log in |
| 21:26.18 | Takekuru | Thanks guys. Poppin the linux cherry, just got debian up today. |
| 21:26.24 | ZeZu | another is new |
| 21:26.31 | baron | tarzeau, where is modconf, it's not in my path, even as root |
| 21:26.34 | Ungy | [Confusion], you don;t have a sound driver installed you running alsa? |
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| 21:26.53 | PadrePio | yes |
| 21:26.56 | tarzeaubsd | baron: apt-get install modconf ? |
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| 21:26.59 | ZeZu | i just figured i'd see if there was any sure solution for debian |
| 21:26.59 | FlimFlamMan | i'm trying to back up with amanda - http://rafb.net/paste/results/OiPJwi23.html <-- any idea what the problem is? |
| 21:27.11 | ZeZu | i'm not going to waste hours and hours again |
| 21:27.11 | PadrePio | apt-get install yes |
| 21:27.18 | baron | tarzeau, alright i'll do that |
| 21:27.20 | [Confusion] | if got an sound driver installed i think |
| 21:27.33 | sepen | checking for XShapeCombineMask in -lXext... no |
| 21:27.33 | sepen | The shape extension stuff could not be found in the X client |
| 21:27.33 | sepen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.35 | sepen | ?¿?¿? |
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| 21:27.36 | Ungy | [Confusion], modprobe it |
| 21:27.46 | PadrePio | yes indeed |
| 21:27.56 | Eddie | can anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial for fetchmailrc's current syntax? |
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| 21:28.08 | fbi | [Confusion]: kernel version please, and what soundcard. |
| 21:28.09 | PadrePio | eddie yes |
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| 21:28.14 | bucky | Eddie, #ubuntu |
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| 21:28.28 | stew | Eddie: /usr/share/doc/fetchmail ; man fetchmailrc |
| 21:28.41 | Ungy | !beer bucky |
| 21:28.42 | dondelelcaro | sepen: you don't have the libxext-dev package installed |
| 21:28.43 | [Confusion] | 2.6 and an cmedia |
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| 21:28.48 | sepen | Im compiling http://freshmeat.net/projects/wmlongrun/ |
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| 21:28.50 | bucky | hmm.... |
| 21:28.51 | dondelelcaro | sepen: and in the future, please don't paste here. |
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| 21:28.59 | fbi | [Confusion]: have you installed alsa-base ? |
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| 21:29.06 | sepen | dondelelcaro: thanks Im going to -- |
| 21:29.07 | PadrePio | yes ofcourse |
| 21:29.14 | [Confusion] | nope ? |
| 21:29.18 | PadrePio | yes |
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| 21:29.31 | sepen | dondelelcaro: sorry the \r character |
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| 21:29.55 | bucky | [Confusion], have you rmmod and blacklisted emu10k1 and then ran alsaconf ? |
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| 21:30.08 | fbi | what's the trigger for the alsa one-liner? |
| 21:30.13 | PadrePio | yes indeed |
| 21:30.20 | hognutter | ok how do i upgrade from 2.4 to the 2.6 kernel in debian? |
| 21:30.30 | hognutter | what commands do i put in? |
| 21:30.31 | PadrePio | hognutter yes |
| 21:30.35 | theine | Hi, I'd like to debootstrap sarge, what's difference between /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/sarge and /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/sarge.buildd ? |
| 21:30.50 | bucky | hognutter, apt-cache search linux-image choose one and apt-get install it |
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| 21:31.14 | hognutter | sounds easy |
| 21:31.21 | tarzeaubsd | hognutter: it is |
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| 21:31.31 | bucky | hognutter, and check out the apt howto at debian.org |
| 21:31.36 | baron | tarzeau, i installed kernel/drivers/input joydev, was this the correct module? |
| 21:31.39 | PadrePio | sounds yes |
| 21:31.55 | fbi | [Confusion]: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf; alsamixer |
| 21:32.29 | tarzeaubsd | baron: dunno, i've never seen an usb joystick |
| 21:32.42 | PadrePio | besides yes |
| 21:32.44 | some_dude | what is the best way to install java on debian ? |
| 21:32.51 | tarzeaubsd | some_dude: java-package |
| 21:32.52 | some_dude | do i NEED sun's java ? |
| 21:32.53 | hognutter | i did that command and nothing came up |
| 21:33.00 | tarzeaubsd | some_dude: probably you want that, yes |
| 21:33.01 | PadrePio | some_dude yes ofcourse |
| 21:33.01 | hognutter | apt-cache search linux-image |
| 21:33.09 | fbi | [Confusion]: you should check the alsa homepage to make sure that card is even supported, i have never even heard of that. |
| 21:33.16 | tarzeaubsd | PadrePio: i doubt anyone NEEDs it that badly |
| 21:33.17 | some_dude | i thought there was another java i could use |
| 21:33.24 | baron | tarzeau, really? what country are you from? |
| 21:33.26 | PadrePio | yes infact |
| 21:33.27 | tarzeaubsd | some_dude: it'll not work like sun's java |
| 21:33.35 | some_dude | oh |
| 21:33.41 | tarzeaubsd | baron: i live in switzerland |
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| 21:34.04 | [Deek] | I've managed to not have a use for Java for going on 10 years. |
| 21:34.09 | Drakh | hi debby users :> |
| 21:34.13 | PadrePio | baron: i live in yesland |
| 21:34.22 | concept10 | anyone here still use telnet for any reason? Im wondering why it is still install on default |
| 21:34.23 | [Confusion] | i'ts an intern sound card |
| 21:34.25 | fbi | [Deek]: ditto |
| 21:34.27 | tarzeaubsd | concept10: yes |
| 21:34.27 | Drakh | you must mean yemen |
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| 21:34.33 | tarzeaubsd | concept10: it's very damn important |
| 21:34.33 | Drakh | YEMEN they all say yes there |
| 21:34.36 | tarzeaubsd | concept10: telnet linuks.mine.nu |
| 21:34.43 | stew | some_dude: there is blackdown and the free java implementations like kaffe and sablevm the free ones are based on gnu-classpath which isn't yet complete |
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| 21:34.45 | baron | tarzeau, in america they're pretty common. thanks for your assistance so far |
| 21:34.47 | fbi | [Confusion]: it doesn't matter. you don't even have alsa installed, and you are running a kernel that has the alsa drivers built in. |
| 21:34.50 | PadrePio | concept10: yes |
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| 21:35.02 | tarzeaubsd | concept10: anyone not shipping telnet is a complete moron |
| 21:35.03 | fbi | [Confusion]: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf; alsamixer |
| 21:35.14 | fbi | [Confusion]: do that entire command |
| 21:35.19 | [Confusion] | if got sound now |
| 21:35.21 | [Confusion] | woho |
| 21:35.21 | [Confusion] | ^^ |
| 21:35.27 | PadrePio | apt-get install yes |
| 21:35.33 | tarzeaubsd | baron: america? |
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| 21:36.14 | adii | is there a way to alter some options in a prebuilt kernel ? |
| 21:36.14 | [Deek] | Yeah, that big place where Americans come from. |
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| 21:36.22 | PadrePio | adii yes |
| 21:36.28 | concept10 | tarzeaubsd, what is that for? to grab your repos? |
| 21:36.30 | tarzeaubsd | where they still have the death penalty? |
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| 21:36.36 | [Deek] | Perhaps you've heard of it. |
| 21:36.47 | tarzeaubsd | concept10: for example, or try port 27015 or port 65535, or check if a service is running |
| 21:36.53 | adii | PadrePio, actually i meant "how" :) |
| 21:36.55 | [Confusion] | yes if got sound now |
| 21:36.55 | tarzeaubsd | concept10: or login on a host, it's so important |
| 21:37.00 | PadrePio | adii yes |
| 21:37.02 | [Confusion] | i`ve |
| 21:37.07 | [Deek] | tarzeaubsd: Yeah, and we use it too. |
| 21:37.11 | bucky | tarzeaubsd, better yet telnet linuks.mine.nu 110 |
| 21:37.12 | tarzeaubsd | concept10: i've even used it to transfer files |
| 21:37.14 | hognutter | i got an athlon barton core xp processor 2600.. is that the k7 kernel imagge i want? |
| 21:37.20 | PadrePio | yes tarzan |
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| 21:37.30 | [Deek] | Electric bleachers and all that. |
| 21:37.30 | bucky | hognutter, yes |
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| 21:37.41 | hognutter | well there is another one with -smp |
| 21:37.47 | tarzeaubsd | bucky: that's not for the public, but yes |
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| 21:37.55 | bucky | hognutter, smp is dual proc |
| 21:37.57 | stew | hognutter: smp is for dual processors |
| 21:38.01 | hognutter | k |
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| 21:38.11 | some_dude | to run java, which destro would be easier to setup ? fedora or debian ? |
| 21:38.14 | ansong | are there any popfile users here whose brains i can pick? |
| 21:38.18 | tarzeaubsd | smp is for more than one cpu |
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| 21:38.26 | tarzeaubsd | it's not necessarily just two processors |
| 21:38.30 | concept10 | I dont understand why smp kernels do not pickup my HT processor |
| 21:38.32 | deadcat | ansong: the f is profile users? |
| 21:38.37 | PadrePio | smp is for more than yes |
| 21:38.40 | PadrePio | YES!!! |
| 21:38.44 | veleno | i just switched from crt to lcd monitor: how do I reconfigure xorg (debian, unstable) ? |
| 21:38.54 | hognutter | im using the synaptic package manager to install the new image.. |
| 21:38.56 | cafuego_ | tarzeaubsd: Well, traitor, on the inferioir x86 plaftorm it is ;- |
| 21:38.57 | hognutter | is that ok? |
| 21:38.58 | PadrePio | veleno yes |
| 21:39.04 | PadrePio | hognutter yes |
| 21:39.08 | sepen | dondelelcaro: thanks I get a ./configure ok |
| 21:39.14 | fbi | veleno: /msg dpkg drx |
| 21:39.16 | tarzeaubsd | heh |
| 21:39.23 | ansong | deadcat, i've had a long day. for some reason that just does not compute. |
| 21:39.35 | tarzeaubsd | cafuego_: icaza is the traitor |
| 21:39.46 | deadcat | ansong: i didnt say "how is your day honey?" i said what the f is profile user? |
| 21:39.52 | cafuego_ | tarzeaubsd: _you_ the one with bsd in his nick! |
| 21:39.57 | eeyore- | oddball question ... is there a vonage-compatible voip client for linux? (more to the point, what kind of protocol does the vonage thing use anyway?) |
| 21:39.57 | [Deek] | cafuego_: yes, it's not like we have 8x2CPU machines. Oh, wait... :) |
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| 21:40.13 | bucky | deadcat, are you love birds having a little spat? |
| 21:40.14 | some_dude | if there anything wrong with just installing java from sun ? |
| 21:40.17 | ansong | deadcat, not profile. popfile |
| 21:40.19 | deadcat | bucky: hehe |
| 21:40.27 | PadrePio | sorry, didn't I say yes? |
| 21:40.28 | deadcat | ansong: oh. |
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| 21:40.29 | tarzeaubsd | some_dude: yes |
| 21:40.31 | sepen | dondelelcaro: Im doing http://mikeux.dyndns.org/index.php?get=manuales/COMO-Instalar-Configurar-Blackbox-XDM.txt |
| 21:40.37 | tarzeaubsd | some_dude: you'll have a hard time getting rid of it |
| 21:40.47 | tarzeaubsd | some_dude: just use java-package, it's so easy |
| 21:40.53 | cafuego_ | concept10: There's apparently a HT bug in the kernel, so it may be outright disabled by default. Also try booting with 'acpi=ht' as kernel param. |
| 21:41.04 | [Deek] | tarzeau: umm, rm -rf /usr/local/jre-* |
| 21:41.15 | some_dude | tarzeaubsd i don't mind it being there, the whole purpose of this system is to run one java ap |
| 21:41.17 | some_dude | app |
| 21:41.20 | PadrePio | some_dude: you'll have a hard yes |
| 21:41.27 | tarzeaubsd | some_dude: poor system |
| 21:41.28 | concept10 | cafuego_, I will try that, thanks |
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| 21:41.36 | some_dude | tarzeaubsd, yea |
| 21:41.45 | PadrePio | some_dude: poor yes |
| 21:41.46 | dondelelcaro | sepen: any reason why you're not just 'apt-get install blackbox' ? |
| 21:41.46 | some_dude | but i don't make the rules, i follow them |
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| 21:41.56 | deadcat | anyone tried recording tvshows with mencoder? i cant get the audio to work, and channel is weird too. |
| 21:41.56 | some_dude | poor me, and poor users |
| 21:42.15 | PadrePio | yes me, and yes users |
| 21:42.17 | some_dude | but what can you do |
| 21:42.17 | tarzeaubsd | deadcat: ahhhh :) |
| 21:42.23 | tarzeaubsd | deadcat: i wanted to try that... |
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| 21:42.26 | deadcat | tarzeaubsd: ya (= |
| 21:42.28 | PadrePio | deadcat yes |
| 21:42.36 | deadcat | PadrePio: help me (= let me show what i have. |
| 21:42.36 | enerv | how i upload file for alioth using scp? |
| 21:42.38 | deadcat | so far |
| 21:42.44 | tarzeaubsd | deadcat: can you send me the exact command you try to gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
| 21:42.49 | PadrePio | deadcat yes |
| 21:42.51 | deadcat | http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/tvo |
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| 21:42.58 | deadcat | tarzeaubsd: ok. |
| 21:43.15 | tarzeaubsd | PadrePio: can you say anything else besides yes? |
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| 21:43.41 | PadrePio | yes |
| 21:43.47 | PadrePio | I can say no |
| 21:43.47 | sepen | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/407156 |
| 21:43.51 | PadrePio | NO!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:43.53 | baron | can anyone recommend a way to test the functionality of my joystick indepently of the library that isn't detecting it? |
| 21:44.00 | PadrePio | baron: no |
| 21:44.07 | sepen | dondelelcaro: sorry Im don't speak english well |
| 21:44.15 | PadrePio | sepen no |
| 21:44.27 | sepen | PadrePio: no que de que? |
| 21:44.32 | hognutter | the new kernel 2.6 works now with my audigy..cool |
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| 21:44.57 | PadrePio | sepen no no no no |
| 21:45.13 | sepen | PadrePio > /dev/null |
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| 21:45.33 | Ungy | Wher eis MadreMia |
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| 21:45.49 | PadrePio | do while 1=1 nop |
| 21:45.52 | yam | I have a dual xeon mobo with only one xeon ht processor... server is acting weird.. it hangs... |
| 21:45.58 | deadcat | PadrePio: so whats the word on mencoder or i should use somthing else? |
| 21:46.09 | JennyL | *sigh* ANOTHER stupid question. What is the package name for glib? When i do apt-get install glib i get "Couldn't find package glib" |
| 21:46.14 | yam | but /proc/interrupts shows 0 everywhere on second cpu |
| 21:46.14 | bucky | yam, is it getting hot? |
| 21:46.15 | PadrePio | no no deadcat |
| 21:46.23 | PadrePio | no |
| 21:46.27 | deadcat | JennyL: libc6 |
| 21:46.35 | JennyL | thanks deadcat :-) |
| 21:46.35 | PadrePio | do you know no? |
| 21:46.38 | sepen | PadrePio: is a primate, he uses a primitive language |
| 21:46.38 | deadcat | JennyL: cache search the mofo (= |
| 21:46.39 | Coutal | JennyL: why would you want to do that? if you want to run a package that depends on glib, the dependancy would be calculated for you and glib get installed. |
| 21:46.40 | stew | JennyL: apt-cache search --names-only glib |
| 21:46.43 | PadrePio | no |
| 21:46.46 | PadrePio | sepen no |
| 21:46.49 | Coutal | glib != glibc |
| 21:46.49 | PadrePio | no |
| 21:46.52 | yam | bucky: nop.. 56 C |
| 21:46.57 | Coutal | well, there's the gtk glib |
| 21:47.02 | sepen | PadrePio is a bot! |
| 21:47.05 | stew | JennyL: what are you trying to compile? |
| 21:47.07 | PadrePio | no |
| 21:47.07 | deadcat | PadrePio: ? |
| 21:47.08 | PadrePio | no |
| 21:47.11 | bucky | yam, memtest? |
| 21:47.11 | PadrePio | ? |
| 21:47.13 | PadrePio | no |
| 21:47.13 | stew | PadrePio: stop |
| 21:47.15 | PadrePio | ?no |
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| 21:47.21 | yam | anyone know how come second cpu shows 0 on interrupts? |
| 21:47.24 | PadrePio | of course no |
| 21:47.25 | yam | bucky: well.. its ECC |
| 21:47.28 | sepen | please don't say Padre-----Pio |
| 21:47.28 | JennyL | erm: Ok, well im trying to run anjunta and it says glib isn't installed. |
| 21:47.33 | stew | !ops PadrePio is a pest |
| 21:47.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: PadrePio is a pest |
| 21:47.34 | Coutal | JennyL: if you want to compile something, you need the -dev packages. |
| 21:47.36 | PadrePio | no |
| 21:47.43 | deadcat | sepen: /ignore --reply |
| 21:47.51 | PadrePio | no deadcat |
| 21:47.51 | baron | does anyone in here use SDL with a joysticK? |
| 21:47.56 | yam | bucky: seems like something interrupts related |
| 21:47.56 | Coutal | JennyL: did you get it with apt-get, compile it by yourself, or got it some other way? |
| 21:47.57 | bucky | yam, because have no second cpu ? |
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| 21:48.01 | deadcat | ah. PadrePio is a pest |
| 21:48.07 | hognutter | ok would it be easier to get ati drivers installed to get 3d support or just swap out the video card for my nvidia video card? |
| 21:48.08 | deadcat | i thought the fucker was helping me. |
| 21:48.10 | ZeZu | anyone know of a real fast mirror to get latest debian iso |
| 21:48.11 | ZeZu | ? |
| 21:48.13 | JennyL | coutal: I got anjunta with apt-get |
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| 21:48.27 | loxley | deadcat: :) |
| 21:48.30 | deadcat | ZeZu: no |
| 21:48.34 | sepen | dondelelcaro: thanks ! |
| 21:48.37 | hognutter | i see ati has a new installer but havent tried it yet.? |
| 21:48.37 | Coutal | if it won't run this way, it's a bug. there should be a dependancy on glib. |
| 21:48.38 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: the latest debian iso is half a year old |
| 21:48.39 | stew | JennyL: what version of debian are you running? |
| 21:48.42 | bucky | yam, are you running an smp kernel on a dual proc board with only one cpu ? |
| 21:48.44 | deadcat | loxley: he got me (=, since i am in desperate help |
| 21:48.44 | Ungy | !tell hognutter about ati |
| 21:48.50 | yam | bucky: yes |
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| 21:48.54 | JennyL | stew: no idea |
| 21:49.00 | bucky | yam bad idea |
| 21:49.00 | JennyL | stew: an old one |
| 21:49.09 | pitillo | hi, anyone know why i only have this line in /var/log/auth.log and dont have any connection from any ip? Oct 26 13:16:50 localhost sshd[1542]: User root not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers |
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| 21:49.33 | ZeZu | tarzeaubsd: so what does that mean ? |
| 21:49.43 | Vlat- | dogmeat: fallout/2 ? :) |
| 21:49.45 | stew | JennyL: paste your sources.list to #flood or to http://channels.debian.net/paste (don't paste here) |
| 21:49.45 | Coutal | maybe it only recommends it for some oddball reason? try dpkg -s anjuta and see if it has any recommended packages |
| 21:49.46 | ZeZu | if its half a year old dont bother with it ? |
| 21:50.02 | ZeZu | have a suggestion otherwise ? |
| 21:50.02 | loxley | pitillo: no root logins allowed and some with root tried... ? |
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| 21:50.08 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: no, it doesn't matter that if you download it very fast or just fast |
| 21:50.10 | Ungy | ZeZu what are you trying to do? |
| 21:50.12 | yam | I have never had problems running servers with only one cpu and smp |
| 21:50.14 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: what's your internet speed? |
| 21:50.19 | pitillo | loxley, yes, but from my computer |
| 21:50.24 | ZeZu | 6mbit |
| 21:50.34 | ZeZu | might be 8 actually |
| 21:50.35 | pitillo | loxley, and i know that root isnt allowed |
| 21:50.38 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: any official debian mirror should be able to deliver that |
| 21:50.57 | ZeZu | should, i rarely get it anywhere but i'll see |
| 21:51.13 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: you could also jsut get a netinst image, which is very small |
| 21:51.14 | Coutal | [Deek]: about time you gave it a shot again. i used debian about 2 years ago, and i see a much-improved installer and plenty of other new stuff. |
| 21:51.22 | tarzeaubsd | ZeZu: and install the rest completely from the internet |
| 21:51.36 | pitillo | loxley, seems to be an intrusion, but im not sure |
| 21:51.37 | [Deek] | Coutal: I've been on unstable all that time. |
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| 21:51.54 | stew | JennyL: what did you apt-get to install anjunta? there is no such debian pacakge |
| 21:51.54 | Coutal | oh, i see. i always run unstable. |
| 21:52.00 | tarzeaubsd | sid here, as well |
| 21:52.05 | Coutal | stew: anjuta, without the extra n |
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| 21:52.36 | tarzeaubsd | slm Xybernaut |
| 21:52.39 | [Deek] | Coutal: Hence the "release". |
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| 21:52.51 | UnWorldly | is there a portable music file player that is recommended for using with debian? |
| 21:52.51 | JennyL | stew: I just did apt-get install anjunta |
| 21:53.00 | Xybernaut | tarzeaubsd: Selam nasilsin ? |
| 21:53.08 | Xybernaut | tarzeaubsd: Ne o nickinde sekil yapmissin :) |
| 21:53.18 | baron | accordindg to some page (http://icculus.org/pyddr/faq.php) i need the kernel module "Joystick Support" under "Input Core Support" but i don't see either of these in modconf |
| 21:53.22 | tarzeaubsd | Xybernaut: /ctcp tarzeaubsd version :) |
| 21:53.44 | enerv | how i upload file for alioth using scp? |
| 21:53.46 | [Deek] | I still need to find my copy of SmartSuite millennium to install on the laptop. |
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| 21:54.05 | JennyL | my sources.list is 4 lines... |
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| 21:54.21 | stew | JennyL: what does "apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0" say for Installed: and Candidate:? |
| 21:54.25 | stew | JennyL: paste them into #flood |
| 21:54.36 | JennyL | stew id like to but I just crashed |
| 21:54.38 | JennyL | dammit |
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| 21:55.03 | Xybernaut | tarzeaubsd: I don't see your version. |
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| 21:55.25 | tarzeau | Xybernaut: debian gnu/kfreebsd, #gnu-kbsd |
| 21:55.37 | JennyL | stew: both 2.8.3-1 |
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| 21:55.57 | Zugschlus | stew: eicar.com is non-free, so Debian cannot distribute it |
| 21:56.14 | JennyL | g++: command not found |
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| 21:56.39 | Fox_1_ | listen i need to precompile samba with winbind. how can i do that? |
| 21:56.52 | baron | looks like the permissions on my joystick devices were not for my account |
| 21:57.00 | stew | Zugschlus: ahh, of course |
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| 21:58.04 | Fox_1_ | i mean when i install deb file it doesn't ask about that. |
| 21:58.04 | Fox_1_ | so hwo can i do that? |
| 21:58.09 | P8ntKid | If i do a command like man fluxbox. It brings up the manual. But how do i exit the manual without closing the terminal? |
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| 21:58.31 | tarzeaubsd | P8ntKid: q |
| 21:58.38 | P8ntKid | tarzeaubsd: Thanks |
| 21:58.38 | tarzeaubsd | P8ntKid: but really depends on the pager |
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| 21:59.58 | Fox_1_ | hey, i ask question. please anyone help me. |
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| 22:00.24 | fbi | Fox_1_: #samba |
| 22:00.46 | Fox_1_ | dbi it's not about samba |
| 22:00.59 | Fox_1_ | fbi it's not about samba |
| 22:01.12 | Fox_1_ | it's about campiling |
| 22:01.15 | Fox_1_ | co |
| 22:01.44 | fbi | yeah, compiling samba. if the Debian package isn't doing what you need, #samba. |
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| 22:02.09 | Coutal | you can download a debian source package and compile from that, if you want. |
| 22:02.38 | ncp | is it possible to combine samba with ldap? |
| 22:02.45 | Coutal | ncp: yes |
| 22:02.50 | ncp | Coutal: thanks |
| 22:03.09 | Coutal | but not as a DC |
| 22:03.15 | Coutal | only as a member server |
| 22:03.29 | Coutal | also there's a ldap schema for samba, but i think it's deprecated |
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| 22:04.52 | [Deek] | Coutal: I use samba+ldap as a PDC. |
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| 22:05.13 | alan_ | hey, I |
| 22:05.47 | Coutal | [Deek]: with the ldap schema or with the AD support? |
| 22:05.54 | alan_ | 'm trying 2 connect 2 the internet 2 setup debian on my NEC Versia 6230 laptop with a 3Com III Eithernet card and it won't load it |
| 22:05.59 | hognutter | id rather just swap out the ati card for nvidia... will it mess up anything if i do? |
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| 22:06.18 | Sneg | I have a fullscreen app that i run on my laptop that will sometimes crash, and the only way to fix it is to ssh into the machine |
| 22:06.24 | [Deek] | Coutal: The newer OpenLDAP samba schema |
| 22:06.27 | hognutter | its a gforce 4 mx 440 |
| 22:06.33 | Sneg | how can i kill the app without ssh'ing? such as if i was using it mobily |
| 22:06.44 | Coutal | alan_: is it on the PCI bus or the isa bus? |
| 22:07.08 | Sneg | also, after i do a kill -9 to it, it leaves my screen at a very low resolution, and i can't set it back up since i have no numpad plus or minus keys |
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| 22:07.32 | Coutal | or is it a pcmcia/pccard? |
| 22:07.44 | alan_ | pccard |
| 22:08.10 | alan_ | i'm choosing the drvier in the list 4 it but it won't start it |
| 22:08.10 | hognutter | here goes noghting |
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| 22:08.11 | alan_ | I'm trying another connector |
| 22:08.15 | Coutal | which list? modconf? |
| 22:08.27 | Coutal | first you need to have the pcmcia controller drivers installed and running |
| 22:08.35 | alan_ | the list that comes up after it asks you about the firewall |
| 22:08.41 | alan_ | or firewire thing |
| 22:09.14 | alan_ | o yeah, how can I get the packages that aren't on the network out |
| 22:09.27 | alan_ | it won't let me install SSH cause I tried 2 install some KDE stuff that didn't work |
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| 22:09.38 | Coutal | your installation should have all necessary packages to configure the card right now |
| 22:09.47 | alan_ | yeah |
| 22:09.56 | Coutal | well, not in graphic mode perhaps, but it should be equipped nonetheless. open up a console and try modconf |
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| 22:10.01 | kl1 | hi |
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| 22:10.21 | alan_ | no |
| 22:10.27 | alan_ | I mean that it won't even get past the setup |
| 22:10.31 | kl1 | any one knows where can i find any manuals to install debian in a sgi indy? |
| 22:10.48 | Coutal | alan_: are you installing from a netinst/businesscard cd? |
| 22:10.49 | [GABRI] | any people have chillispot? |
| 22:11.01 | alan_ | yea |
| 22:11.09 | alan_ | kevin gave me a cd with network install on it |
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| 22:11.54 | Coutal | well, a full cd would be helpful. you may need to boot a pcmcia kernel though (dunno if that's still relevant for latest debian releases, but in past ones you had to pick the pcmcia kernel in particular) |
| 22:12.16 | alan_ | ummm |
| 22:12.19 | alan_ | so reboot nd try it |
| 22:12.25 | Coutal | well |
| 22:12.33 | Coutal | you can always download the latest release in businesscard |
| 22:12.42 | Coutal | it's 40mb and it has a much better chance of handling your card |
| 22:12.45 | kl1 | any one knows how to install debian on a mips procesor? |
| 22:12.49 | alan_ | ok, home many cd's cause I'm tryin 2 do it for network install |
| 22:12.56 | alan_ | I don't want 2 waiste many cds |
| 22:12.57 | tarzeau | kl1: which mips processor is that? |
| 22:13.02 | tarzeau | kl1: tried #mipslinux ? |
| 22:13.05 | kl1 | tarzeau r5000 |
| 22:13.12 | kl1 | ok |
| 22:13.51 | tarzeau | kl1: not an o2, is it? |
| 22:14.10 | kl1 | is an indy |
| 22:14.12 | tarzeau | kl1: www.debian.org/ports look there |
| 22:14.19 | kl1 | ok :D |
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| 22:15.16 | alan_ | wht would b the way 2 go with the proccesor |
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| 22:15.23 | alan_ | its got a pentinum celeron mmx |
| 22:16.04 | hognutter | < just swapped ati for nvidia.. hopes it dont panic. |
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| 22:16.49 | yoel | what command can i use to check what is the kernelk ver i use? |
| 22:16.53 | hognutter | ok how do i get xfree86 to reconfigure x? |
| 22:17.04 | hognutter | 47 |
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| 22:17.37 | Coutal | yoel: uname -a |
| 22:17.52 | yoel | Coutal: thx |
| 22:19.12 | hognutter | i just swapped out video cards in debian and now x wont come up.. im logged into root... how do i reconfigure it? |
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| 22:20.39 | thingfish | !drxx hognutter |
| 22:20.42 | nsmONE | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:20.43 | dpkg | hognutter: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:20.54 | vortek | IS there a engange .deb for e16 in debian ? |
| 22:21.22 | hognutter | ahh i had it backwareds.. |
| 22:21.23 | vortek | er an engage |
| 22:23.28 | vortek | woah |
| 22:23.31 | fbi | vortek: apt-cache search engage; if not, look for an unofficial Debian package. |
| 22:23.42 | vortek | yeah i did the search already |
| 22:23.45 | vortek | :P |
| 22:23.45 | [GABRI] | any people have freeradius and chillispot? |
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| 22:24.55 | hognutter | cool im getting 245fps in glxgears |
| 22:25.08 | cafuego_ | hognutter: With what card/cpu? |
| 22:25.33 | hognutter | 2600 xp with i think its a gforce 4 440 64m |
| 22:26.03 | dli__ | hognutter, 245 at fullscreen? |
| 22:26.08 | hognutter | no |
| 22:26.14 | cafuego_ | Ok... you may need to run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable |
| 22:26.22 | hognutter | should i get the latest drivers from nvidia site? |
| 22:26.23 | cafuego_ | hognutter: Coz it seems a bit slow. |
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| 22:26.50 | hognutter | 2.6 kernel here |
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| 22:27.01 | cafuego_ | hognutter: No, they won't work with a gf4mx anyway, I think. |
| 22:27.29 | cafuego_ | hognutter: If you run the nvidia-glx-config command, stuff that might interfere will be disabled, that should up the framerate a bit. |
| 22:27.31 | Borg^Queen | Hi people I'm trying to change the perms on a dos drive I have mounted but even as root I'm told I don't have permission to change the perms. |
| 22:27.41 | ncp | how many fps is normal with gfxgear with a nvidia card? |
| 22:27.46 | cafuego_ | Borg^Queen: DOS doesn't support perms. Your talk is futile. |
| 22:27.52 | Borg^Queen | I want to allow one specific user to write the dos drives. |
| 22:27.58 | cafuego_ | ncp: I get around 3000 |
| 22:28.03 | Borg^Queen | cafuego_: I did it in another debian setup |
| 22:28.03 | nvz | ncp: are you smoking crack? |
| 22:28.09 | Drakh | :< |
| 22:28.17 | [GABRI] | any people have freeradius and chillispot? |
| 22:28.19 | cafuego_ | Borg^Queen: Not via chmod/chown. |
| 22:28.20 | dli__ | ncp: my geforece 5200, 1,100 fpm |
| 22:28.24 | ncp | nvz: i know its a lame question because i dont give any specs... |
| 22:28.34 | useruser | Borg^Queen: you want to read man mount, IIRC |
| 22:28.36 | ncp | i get about 6000 fps in 5 sec |
| 22:28.42 | nvz | ncp: first of all I dont consider glxgears to be useful for anything, and there are over 3 generations of nvidia cards |
| 22:28.43 | Borg^Queen | cafuego_: yep just by right click in konq |
| 22:28.47 | cafuego_ | Borg^Queen: You need to pass an appropriate uid=XXXX option in fstab (or the mount command) |
| 22:28.51 | bkhl | Borg^Queen: man mount and mount.vfat, or whatever it might be called. |
| 22:28.53 | Borg^Queen | useruser: thanks |
| 22:28.55 | ncp | nvz: like i just said |
| 22:29.01 | ncp | lame question |
| 22:29.01 | Borg^Queen | cafuego_: ok thanks |
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| 22:29.09 | Borg^Queen | this is xp hmm |
| 22:29.12 | Borg^Queen | thank you people |
| 22:29.12 | cafuego_ | Borg^Queen: No, vfat does _not_ support permissions that way, it's impossible. |
| 22:29.26 | Borg^Queen | ok |
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| 22:29.46 | Coweater | Borg^Queen: check ownership of the mount point |
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| 22:29.57 | Borg^Queen | Coweater: yep, |
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| 22:30.22 | TuxMeister | hey guys... i 'm trying to configure integrated wifi on a laptop. i loaded the drivers with ndiswrapper but dunno how to pull up the device... i've tried ifconfig wlan0 up but there's no device... any idea? |
| 22:30.23 | cafuego_ | Coweater: That also is pointless. |
| 22:30.26 | Borg^Queen | should I replace defaults with rw, user, auto? |
| 22:30.44 | cafuego_ | Borg^Queen: leave the 'auto' off. |
| 22:30.57 | Borg^Queen | and default, leave it in? |
| 22:31.02 | cafuego_ | Borg^Queen: or replace defaults with defaults,uid=XXXX (the user's uid) |
| 22:31.25 | cafuego_ | They way the entire mount will be owned by that users, and they can thus write to it. |
| 22:31.27 | amphi | TuxMeister: does iwconfig say? |
| 22:31.39 | hognutter | <just got done booting into windows and its a gf4 mx 440 |
| 22:31.59 | cafuego_ | hognutter: 'lspci' in Debian would have told you that ;-) |
| 22:32.01 | TuxMeister | amphi, same |
| 22:32.07 | nvz | I believe thats similar to the xbox chipset |
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| 22:32.41 | pedro | Hi again |
| 22:32.43 | dpower | Hey can anyone reccomend a program for capping bandwidth? |
| 22:32.44 | TuxMeister | amphi, but driver is loaded according to ndiswrapper and now lspci shows all the info... |
| 22:32.52 | pedro | I would like to resolve a problem with k3b |
| 22:32.57 | pedro | I cannot execute it |
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| 22:33.19 | fbi | dpower: trickle |
| 22:33.23 | dpower | ty |
| 22:33.32 | hognutter | <my motherboard is the ecs k7s5a so its agp bus is only 4x instead of 8x |
| 22:34.14 | bcc | hey guys, how can i type characters by their ascii codes? like alt...065 or something like that |
| 22:34.21 | amphi | TuxMeister: iwconfig with no args shows no device? |
| 22:34.35 | Borg^Queen | thanks people |
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| 22:35.00 | websdale | pedro:what happens? |
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| 22:35.28 | pedro | k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libk3bplugin.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:35.35 | pedro | this is the message |
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| 22:35.44 | TuxMeister | amphi, shows lo, sit0 and eth0 but none with wireless extensions... :( |
| 22:36.02 | websdale | pedro:have you got that file? |
| 22:36.15 | pedro | I don't know |
| 22:36.21 | pedro | I supposed not |
| 22:36.45 | TuxMeister | amphi, i did once and ii was easy, but i think i have to load some module with modprobe or somethin like that... |
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| 22:37.14 | websdale | pedro:you could try 'locate libk3bplugin.so.2' |
| 22:37.47 | pedro | well, the message is in spanish |
| 22:37.55 | sussudio | !tejon |
| 22:37.56 | pedro | I am going to try to translate |
| 22:37.56 | dpkg | http://faunaiberica.org/especies.php3?esp=52 |
| 22:38.04 | sussudio | !es |
| 22:38.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:38.36 | pedro420 | nvz: Nandrew ? |
| 22:39.17 | pedro | I have no help in that channel |
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| 22:40.16 | pedro | the message is basicaly that /var/cache/locate is older than 8 days |
| 22:40.27 | pedro420 | nvz: Man casey told me to try and get ahold of you for what I dunno. |
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| 22:41.44 | amphi | TuxMeister: dunno, I don't use ndiswrapper |
| 22:41.57 | TuxMeister | amphi, ok, thanks any way |
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| 22:42.13 | hognutter | how do i kill the xserver and get to exclusive commandline? |
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| 22:42.49 | phogg | hognutter: cltr+alt backspace |
| 22:42.57 | shad0wcat | /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 22:43.04 | shad0wcat | or /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 22:43.08 | shad0wcat | or whatever dm you're using |
| 22:43.23 | hognutter | i know it boots me back to the gnome desktop manager login. |
| 22:43.31 | shad0wcat | hognutter: READ |
| 22:43.45 | hognutter | ok ok failsafe terminal is an option. |
| 22:44.02 | shad0wcat | I just told you the command(s) |
| 22:44.08 | shad0wcat | now go type it in a root terminal somewhere |
| 22:44.17 | shad0wcat | perferably NOT in the gui |
| 22:44.41 | hognutter | im trying to quit the qui |
| 22:44.48 | phogg | hognutter: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 22:44.49 | stew | hognutter: ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 22:45.02 | shad0wcat | CTRL+ALT+<F1-F6> |
| 22:45.06 | shad0wcat | pick one |
| 22:45.07 | hognutter | thank you |
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| 22:45.14 | hognutter | fine but is the xserver still running? |
| 22:45.17 | shad0wcat | or just type the bloody command |
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| 22:45.20 | hognutter | i need to install the nvidia drivers. |
| 22:45.21 | vortek | Ok is there an easy way to uninstall kde and the libs it installed ? |
| 22:45.22 | shad0wcat | !read for hognutter |
| 22:45.23 | phogg | hognutter: Yes. Until you stop gdm |
| 22:45.26 | hognutter | and make sure its not running. |
| 22:45.28 | hognutter | ok |
| 22:45.31 | shad0wcat | !tell hognutter about read |
| 22:45.33 | vortek | rather then uninstalling 100 libs by hand via debfoster |
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| 22:45.45 | shad0wcat | two people have told you what command to use |
| 22:45.50 | shad0wcat | if you can't figure out how to type it |
| 22:45.54 | shad0wcat | you should go back to Windows |
| 22:45.56 | fbi | i have an idea, how about *not* run a display manager. |
| 22:45.59 | stew | shad0wcat: chill out, put him on ignore |
| 22:46.12 | shad0wcat | stew: I doubt he's that stupid |
| 22:46.15 | shad0wcat | he's just not listening |
| 22:47.22 | hognutter | it said i appear to be running an x server please exit x before installing.... that was after i did what you said. |
| 22:47.31 | hognutter | how do i kill the x server. |
| 22:47.38 | hognutter | its xfree86 |
| 22:47.42 | shad0wcat | hognutter scroll up and read |
| 22:47.50 | shad0wcat | I'm not telling you again |
| 22:47.56 | shad0wcat | two people have told you what to do |
| 22:47.57 | shad0wcat | read |
| 22:48.01 | stew | !tell shad0wcat about enter |
| 22:48.05 | hognutter | oh ok i missed that line.. must have scrolled |
| 22:48.10 | hognutter | sorry :> |
| 22:48.14 | shad0wcat | !beat stew |
| 22:49.07 | AwesomeMachine | what's the bot's command to tell about the next release of debian? |
| 22:49.24 | stew | AwesomeMachine: /msg dpkg testing |
| 22:49.24 | shad0wcat | it's etch |
| 22:49.26 | phogg | AwesomeMachine: etch |
| 22:49.44 | shad0wcat | and we'll be landing on Mars before that gets released |
| 22:49.46 | shad0wcat | :) |
| 22:49.49 | AwesomeMachine | !etch |
| 22:49.50 | dpkg | rumour has it, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
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| 22:50.11 | phogg | see also: when will etch release |
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| 22:50.40 | hognutter | great... unable to find the kernel source tree |
| 22:50.48 | stew | phogg: planning has begun for end of the year 2006, which means hopefully before end of the year 2007 |
| 22:50.49 | hardwire | its in /usr/src/ :) |
| 22:50.50 | shad0wcat | hognutter: so go install it |
| 22:50.55 | shad0wcat | hardwire: no it isn't |
| 22:50.55 | hardwire | DID I HELP?! |
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| 22:51.04 | shad0wcat | if he's running debian stable |
| 22:51.11 | shad0wcat | he doesn't have a kernel source |
| 22:51.16 | shad0wcat | it doesn't come by default |
| 22:51.20 | shad0wcat | you need to go and grab it |
| 22:51.21 | hardwire | nosir. |
| 22:51.22 | phogg | stew: Not holding my breath :) |
| 22:51.24 | AwesomeMachine | hognutter: are you trying to install the nVidia driver? |
| 22:51.28 | hognutter | yes |
| 22:51.31 | stew | hognutter: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:51.52 | shad0wcat | !nividia one liner |
| 22:51.58 | shad0wcat | !nvidia one liner |
| 22:51.59 | dpkg | i guess nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 22:52.07 | hardwire | update-pciids ? |
| 22:52.22 | shad0wcat | I didn't write that |
| 22:52.25 | shad0wcat | but it makes sense |
| 22:52.36 | hardwire | wtf does that do? |
| 22:52.41 | hardwire | heh. |
| 22:52.43 | shad0wcat | exactly what it says it does |
| 22:52.48 | shad0wcat | the command isn't really cryptic |
| 22:52.49 | hardwire | so its used by pciutils |
| 22:52.50 | AwesomeMachine | I think that is for the nv driver in xfree86 |
| 22:53.02 | shad0wcat | AwesomeMachine: he probably wants hardware acceleration |
| 22:53.10 | hardwire | shad0wcat: sure it is.. the kernel has an include of pci_id's |
| 22:53.16 | hardwire | so.. it was a little wnoky to percieve. |
| 22:53.20 | hardwire | wonky! |
| 22:53.23 | some_dude | this software says i need red hat 7.0 or greater |
| 22:53.30 | hardwire | well look at that |
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| 22:53.35 | hardwire | it found all sorts of funked up hardware |
| 22:53.36 | phogg | some_dude: debian > red hat |
| 22:53.38 | shad0wcat | red crap |
| 22:53.39 | some_dude | i can still run it on debian can't I ? it's java based and runs on windows |
| 22:53.45 | hognutter | it didnt like your command... bash:uname-r:command not found |
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| 22:53.54 | fbi | no space. uname -r |
| 22:53.58 | hognutter | ahh |
| 22:54.12 | AwesomeMachine | you use alien to convert foreign packages to debian |
| 22:54.12 | shad0wcat | some_dude: just because it's java doesn't mean it runs everywhere |
| 22:54.19 | hognutter | hehe working |
| 22:54.22 | stew | AwesomeMachine: thats almost never a good idea |
| 22:54.22 | hardwire | or.. just use dpkg to list what base package your kernel used |
| 22:54.23 | some_dude | it rus on windows |
| 22:54.29 | shad0wcat | some_dude: so? |
| 22:54.30 | some_dude | the same .jar file |
| 22:54.30 | hardwire | and get the headers version of that |
| 22:54.34 | hardwire | so that it updates as you do. |
| 22:54.43 | AwesomeMachine | hognutter: I guess you aren't as dumb as I thought |
| 22:54.43 | shad0wcat | some_dude: again, so? |
| 22:54.47 | stew | some_dude: do you hava a jre installed? |
| 22:54.55 | phogg | some_dude: despite what sun may tell you, java is not inherently cross platform |
| 22:54.56 | some_dude | shad0wcat don't be a dick |
| 22:55.07 | some_dude | it's a linux version I've downloaded |
| 22:55.13 | some_dude | and the docs say RH 7 |
| 22:55.25 | shad0wcat | then it probably calls JNI specific to red hat |
| 22:55.27 | stew | some_dude: linux version of what? |
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| 22:55.29 | shad0wcat | in which case you're screwed |
| 22:55.32 | hognutter | why is that AwesomeMachine |
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| 22:55.38 | AwesomeMachine | some_dude: http://java.sun.com |
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| 22:55.54 | shad0wcat | java has the ability to call native functions of whatever os it happens to be running on top of |
| 22:55.59 | shad0wcat | and MOST advanced apps do that |
| 22:56.07 | shad0wcat | which means that if you don't run the platform they're coded for |
| 22:56.11 | shad0wcat | you're out of luck |
| 22:56.13 | stew | i doubt seriously that its using redhat specific jni calls or that such calls even exist |
| 22:56.25 | hognutter | building kernel module... done |
| 22:56.26 | shad0wcat | stew: they probably do |
| 22:56.34 | some_dude | this is a charting program, and the linux version runs on windows |
| 22:56.34 | shad0wcat | red hat has a lot of proprietary commands |
| 22:56.40 | phogg | some_dude: there is a good chance it will work on Debian as long as you have a compatible JRE |
| 22:56.48 | shad0wcat | some_dude: then extract the jar and pray |
| 22:56.49 | stew | some_dude: have you installed a jre yet? |
| 22:56.55 | some_dude | not yet |
| 22:56.58 | shad0wcat | it's just a zip file anyway |
| 22:56.58 | stew | shad0wcat: why would you extract the jar? |
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| 22:57.19 | phogg | shad0wcat: you're not helping |
| 22:57.29 | hognutter | now it says i got to reupdate my xf86config file... im going to refer to the instructions provided from nvidia |
| 22:57.29 | shad0wcat | stew: old habit I guess |
| 22:57.33 | stew | bad habit |
| 22:57.37 | shad0wcat | I sometimes extract it for debugging purposes |
| 22:57.41 | phogg | some_dude: what are you asking about if you have not tried to run it yet? |
| 22:57.41 | MickMcMack | Hi, are there any linux apps that will create a DVD-iso ? |
| 22:57.53 | stew | shad0wcat: how does extracting it help in debugging? |
| 22:58.05 | shad0wcat | stew: with some jars you can run off another class |
| 22:58.09 | useruser | MickMcMack: apt-cache search dvd iso seems to think so |
| 22:58.16 | shad0wcat | other than the one described in the manifest |
| 22:58.19 | some_dude | phogg i tryed it last nite, but it crashed |
| 22:58.20 | AwesomeMachine | hognutter: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and change the display from vesa to nvidia |
| 22:58.25 | some_dude | something about an icon |
| 22:58.28 | shad0wcat | or oyu can check out the manifest and find out what the maintainer did |
| 22:58.29 | phogg | some_dude: what crashed? |
| 22:58.30 | shad0wcat | you* |
| 22:58.31 | shad0wcat | etc |
| 22:58.34 | stew | shad0wcat: you don't have to unzip the jar to do that |
| 22:58.35 | hognutter | k |
| 22:58.39 | MickMcMack | Thankyou, useruser. :) |
| 22:58.42 | some_dude | the java app crashed, i thought i had messed up java |
| 22:58.50 | shad0wcat | stew: no I know that |
| 22:58.59 | phogg | some_dude: I thought you said you hadn;t installed jre yet |
| 22:59.01 | stew | some_dude: what version of java do you have installed? how did you install it? |
| 22:59.02 | shad0wcat | but I do it because of an old habit |
| 22:59.08 | shad0wcat | !java-package |
| 22:59.09 | dpkg | java-package is, like, a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 22:59.09 | some_dude | that was a different machine |
| 22:59.17 | shad0wcat | try installing java that way |
| 22:59.20 | shad0wcat | then run it again |
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| 22:59.25 | shad0wcat | if it still refuses to run, well then you're sol |
| 22:59.50 | hognutter | how many kB is 64megs |
| 22:59.52 | some_dude | I've got fedora in there too |
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| 22:59.57 | shad0wcat | if it's open source you could probably edit out the part about checking the os |
| 22:59.58 | stew | it will run fine on debian |
| 23:00.02 | AwesomeMachine | 64000 |
| 23:00.03 | shad0wcat | hognutter: 64*1024 |
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| 23:00.09 | shad0wcat | AwesomeMachine: no |
| 23:00.12 | AciD | I have a silly question, how can you delete a file B when you've hardlinked it from file A, without deleting A ? |
| 23:00.25 | hognutter | shadowcat is right |
| 23:00.31 | AciD | copying it is mandatory ? |
| 23:00.38 | phogg | AciD: just rm it |
| 23:00.40 | shad0wcat | whatever that number equals |
| 23:00.42 | stew | both are correct |
| 23:00.45 | phogg | AciD: file A will still exist |
| 23:00.48 | AwesomeMachine | 1024*1024*64 |
| 23:00.51 | AciD | you sure ? |
| 23:00.59 | shad0wcat | stew: no, one kb is 1024 bytes |
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| 23:01.07 | some_dude | i am now about to install java |
| 23:01.08 | shad0wcat | and one meg is 1024 kb |
| 23:01.09 | phogg | AciD: Yes. But don't trust me, make a couple test files and see for yourself |
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| 23:01.28 | shad0wcat | computers are binary systems, base two, not base ten |
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| 23:01.48 | shad0wcat | and you don't want to lose those that last 24 |
| 23:01.49 | shad0wcat | it adds up |
| 23:02.04 | cevizoglu | shad0wcat, he's been reading too many hard drive size marketing reports :) |
| 23:02.05 | AciD | yes, thx phogg |
| 23:02.14 | stew | !convert 64 megabytes to bytes |
| 23:02.16 | dpkg | 64 megabytes is approximately 6.4e+07 bytes |
| 23:02.22 | stew | !convert 64 mebibytes to bytes |
| 23:02.23 | dpkg | 64 mebibytes is approximately 6.71089e+07 bytes |
| 23:02.24 | shad0wcat | cevizoglu: sadly most people believe it too |
| 23:02.38 | hognutter | hmm |
| 23:02.44 | shad0wcat | 65,536kb |
| 23:02.47 | AwesomeMachine | !convert 64 |
| 23:02.56 | [GABRI] | !convert 64 megabytes to bytes |
| 23:02.56 | hognutter | glxgears is pulling 2300fps now but it looks like the refresh rate may be messed up. |
| 23:02.56 | shad0wcat | 67108864 bytes |
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| 23:02.57 | dpkg | 64 megabytes is approximately 6.4e+07 bytes |
| 23:03.05 | shad0wcat | 536870912 bits |
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| 23:03.27 | hognutter | the gears just may be moving so fast i cant see it. |
| 23:03.29 | hognutter | heh |
| 23:03.33 | some_dude | we website has a mirror of 1.4.2 to download |
| 23:03.37 | some_dude | the website |
| 23:03.38 | roby | Which fs is better for a desktop, 7200 rpm ata and 7200 serial-ata drives? |
| 23:03.41 | some_dude | but it's rpm |
| 23:03.45 | abrotman | some_dude: java ? |
| 23:03.50 | some_dude | yes |
| 23:03.52 | shad0wcat | !tell some_dude about java-package |
| 23:03.55 | stew | some_dude: don't download the rpm, download the bin |
| 23:03.56 | abrotman | the website has java5 |
| 23:04.01 | some_dude | it's a rpm.bin |
| 23:04.06 | shad0wcat | !tell some_dude about java |
| 23:04.09 | NURV | hi I'm looking for tool to restore one of my vfat partition. Can anyone give me advice? |
| 23:04.12 | hognutter | hell ya its all working fine now.. thx for all your help |
| 23:04.17 | stew | some_dude: you don't want the rpm |
| 23:04.17 | shad0wcat | !tell some_dude about install java |
| 23:04.18 | abrotman | some_dude: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 23:04.26 | abrotman | some_dude: it tells you exactly which file to download |
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| 23:04.31 | roby | NURV: fsck |
| 23:04.31 | some_dude | I'm thinking if getting java 1.4.2 to install |
| 23:04.38 | stew | some_dude: or just apt-get it from debian-unofficial.org |
| 23:04.38 | abrotman | oh ffs . |
| 23:04.39 | shad0wcat | some_dude: dpkg just msged you |
| 23:04.43 | hognutter | now to see if that project to get voice in yahoo chat is working yet |
| 23:04.43 | shad0wcat | READ what it told you |
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| 23:04.47 | shad0wcat | and then folow those instructions |
| 23:04.48 | NURV | roby, but I can't mount the partition |
| 23:04.53 | AwesomeMachine | ata and sata are both ok. fs=ext3 is good. reiserfs good in SuSE |
| 23:04.53 | shad0wcat | follow* |
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| 23:05.14 | Drakh | ext3 is the devil! |
| 23:05.20 | shad0wcat | reiser4 > * |
| 23:05.22 | roby | Drakh: really? |
| 23:05.23 | Drakh | the journals get uploaded to the DOD |
| 23:05.28 | Drakh | then they look at your files |
| 23:05.33 | Drakh | no not really, just being sillly |
| 23:05.43 | roby | Drakh: my reiserfs died yesterday, it's not recoverable |
| 23:05.56 | roby | i'm rather wishing i had stuck to ext3 |
| 23:06.02 | Phated | hahah. |
| 23:06.02 | abrotman | reiser is crap |
| 23:06.06 | shad0wcat | my reiserfs systems run just fine |
| 23:06.13 | AwesomeMachine | meta data is evil. You can't see it, and it tells everything you fear. |
| 23:06.15 | roby | abrotman: why? |
| 23:06.24 | abrotman | roby: didn't yours die ? |
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| 23:06.28 | roby | AwesomeMachine: meta data applies to reiser yes? |
| 23:06.32 | Phated | roby: 'it's not recoverable'. |
| 23:06.32 | shad0wcat | hahahaha |
| 23:06.32 | roby | abrotman: hahaha yeah i guess |
| 23:06.33 | AwesomeMachine | yes |
| 23:06.43 | shad0wcat | I should be asking that |
| 23:06.44 | NURV | roby, It give me Can not read superblock. What does it mean? |
| 23:06.46 | shad0wcat | not you roby |
| 23:06.46 | AwesomeMachine | all good filesystems use metadata |
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| 23:07.01 | shad0wcat | but abrotman and I already had this discussion |
| 23:07.05 | roby | NURV: i have same problem, can not read superblock on reiser, you need to tell fsck to recreate superblock |
| 23:07.09 | shad0wcat | back when I was having the time of my life compiling a kernel |
| 23:07.11 | abrotman | shad0wcat: we did ? .. what was the outcome ? |
| 23:07.14 | some_dude | java 5 ? what version is 1.2.4 ? |
| 23:07.20 | abrotman | some_dude: nothign you want |
| 23:07.27 | AwesomeMachine | don't use reiserfs in debian |
| 23:07.27 | abrotman | some_dude: do you need the exact url ? |
| 23:07.30 | Phated | some_dude: oddly enough... It's version 1.2.4. |
| 23:07.35 | abrotman | no .. don't use reiserfs . period |
| 23:07.43 | shad0wcat | abrotman: well obviously you didn't convince m |
| 23:07.43 | shad0wcat | e |
| 23:07.44 | theine | NURV, how do you mount the vfat partition? |
| 23:07.48 | shad0wcat | as I'm running reiser4 now |
| 23:07.52 | abrotman | shad0wcat: sorry to hear that |
| 23:08.03 | NURV | theine, I Can't mount it |
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| 23:08.20 | theine | NURV, how do you *try* to mount it? with which command i mean. |
| 23:08.28 | AwesomeMachine | SuSE does their own development of reiserfs. People hear about good it works in SuSE, so they try it on other distros, and it sucks |
| 23:08.30 | TuxMeister | guys, how can i check what dev was assigned to a device i've just connected (wifi card, it's fully workin...) |
| 23:08.34 | roby | I read a ext3 vs reiser site ... it said reiser is great when a system crashes... it will recover what the last transactions where or the like |
| 23:08.39 | NURV | theine, mount -t vfat /dev/hdb /mnt/pavel |
| 23:08.59 | roby | "vfat" lol |
| 23:09.00 | theine | NURV, ok, i though you might have left out `-t vfat' |
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| 23:09.03 | stew | TuxMeister: iwconfig |
| 23:09.40 | AwesomeMachine | reiserfs is very fast on bootup. ext3 can take ten minutes to read back a journal |
| 23:09.50 | shad0wcat | what I find amusing is that both NTFS and Reiser are B-Tree based |
| 23:09.52 | cafuego_ | AwesomeMachine: They don't realise it sucks on SUSE too, but you don't notice as much coz the rest of SUSE also cusk. |
| 23:09.53 | phaedral | looking for a clue on recovering what seems to be a corrupted gimp xcf image...? |
| 23:09.55 | theine | NURV, that often results into `cannot read superblock'... |
| 23:09.56 | shad0wcat | yet Reiser blows NTFS out of the water |
| 23:09.57 | Akirahedgehog | Hi. im new with debian and I need some help. When I boot KDE I get a messege tellinh me I dont have a file called DSP so sound wont work |
| 23:10.12 | Akirahedgehog | How do I get this DSP? |
| 23:10.14 | cafuego_ | AwesomeMachine: The thing is, when it comes to a filesystem, you want _stability_ over everything. |
| 23:10.16 | sussudio | java 1.2.4? that's ancient. the latest java is 1.5.0 |
| 23:10.20 | asuffield | AwesomeMachine: yes, that's the difference between "keeping your files" and "discarding your files" |
| 23:10.30 | asuffield | AwesomeMachine: it's much faster when you aren't actually trying to preserve the data |
| 23:10.41 | NURV | theine, the result is same: can not read superblock |
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| 23:10.43 | TuxMeister | stew, ain't got anything usefull... only my common ethernet cards listed, but none with wireless extensions... |
| 23:10.49 | stew | there was never a java 1.2.4 |
| 23:10.53 | theine | NURV, yeah, that's why I asked |
| 23:11.00 | cafuego_ | he prolly measn 1.4.2 |
| 23:11.00 | AwesomeMachine | I only use reiserfs in SuSE 9.x. else I use ext3 |
| 23:11.03 | cafuego_ | (blackdown) |
| 23:11.08 | stew | TuxMeister: then what makes you say, "wifi card, it's fully workin..." |
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| 23:11.11 | mohamed | hy everybody |
| 23:11.15 | AwesomeMachine | hi |
| 23:11.17 | stew | TuxMeister: what chipset / driver? |
| 23:11.24 | sussudio | yeah 1.4.2 is the previous version. it doesn't work properly with recent azureus versions. |
| 23:11.31 | roby | So I should go back to ext3? |
| 23:11.39 | AwesomeMachine | roby: yes |
| 23:11.44 | Akirahedgehog | Dev/dsp not found :P |
| 23:11.44 | mohamed | plz ,how can I change the owner of my partition fat32? |
| 23:11.45 | AwesomeMachine | in debian |
| 23:11.50 | roby | Is there something even better than ext3 or reiser? |
| 23:11.52 | TuxMeister | stew, Broadcom BCM4318 |
| 23:12.02 | mark | TuxMeister, Hey. I'm using that. :) |
| 23:12.04 | roby | mohamed: you specify uid=, pid= in the /etc/fstab options |
| 23:12.05 | stew | TuxMeister: are you using ndiswrapper then? |
| 23:12.11 | mark | TuxMeister, with ndiswrapper.. |
| 23:12.11 | TuxMeister | stew, yes |
| 23:12.14 | TuxMeister | :D |
| 23:12.23 | TuxMeister | mark, i love you xDD |
| 23:12.24 | roby | mohamed: sorry, uid= and gid= |
| 23:12.25 | mohamed | roby : I change it to 7 0 0 |
| 23:12.34 | sussudio | !botsex TuxMeister |
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| 23:12.36 | AwesomeMachine | mohamed: I don't think you can do that in debian, unless it is a debian partition. |
| 23:12.38 | ZEA | I have 2 harddisks working in raid 0 on a nforce4 chipset controler. first I installed win xp in which I created partitions to, afterwords, install debian. upon installing debian, the two disks are detected, what option should I choose to access the created partitions? |
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| 23:12.52 | theine | NURV, have you tried `dosfsck -a /dev/hdb' ? |
| 23:13.05 | NURV | theine, nope |
| 23:13.08 | TuxMeister | spdf, what should i do then? i allready loaded the driver... |
| 23:13.11 | spdf | TuxMeister, I'm here now.. I didn't realize that it was on my login name.., lol.. whoops.. |
| 23:13.15 | NURV | theine, one moment |
| 23:13.20 | theine | NURV, do it without -a first |
| 23:13.23 | roby | AwesomeMachine: he can mount it as a differnt user at least |
| 23:13.29 | NURV | theine, okay |
| 23:13.35 | spdf | TuxMeister, Okay.. so you ran 'ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf' or something similar.. |
| 23:13.38 | AwesomeMachine | roby: yes |
| 23:13.41 | mohamed | AwesomeMachine, what 's a debian partition ? |
| 23:13.41 | Akirahedgehog | how do I get sound on my machine? /dev/dsp not found :P |
| 23:13.44 | some_dude | I've added deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list, and now I'm getting an error |
| 23:13.54 | TuxMeister | spdf, yeah, but now what? xD |
| 23:14.01 | theine | NURV, wait a second...! |
| 23:14.04 | AwesomeMachine | it's a partition you made with debian, not with windows |
| 23:14.05 | mohamed | AwesomeMachine: ext 3 , reizer ?? |
| 23:14.07 | spdf | TuxMeister, and then 'modprobe ndiswrapper if_name="eth1" ' |
| 23:14.15 | mohamed | spdf : ok |
| 23:14.20 | theine | NURV, are you sure you don't wanna mount /dev/hdb1 ? |
| 23:14.24 | sussudio | some_dude: note that this is the _official_ debian channel |
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| 23:14.35 | NURV | theine, not sure |
| 23:14.37 | spdf | TuxMeister, or, omit the if_name="eth1" if you'd like.. |
| 23:14.38 | NURV | theine, :-) |
| 23:14.45 | spdf | TuxMeister, its preference really.. it will default to wlan0 |
| 23:14.53 | theine | NURV, try `sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt/pavel' |
| 23:15.01 | some_dude | fine, I've added deb http://ftp.debian-official.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restricted, and i get an error |
| 23:15.07 | NURV | theine, okay |
| 23:15.14 | stew | some_dude: what error? |
| 23:15.24 | stew | some_dude: paste the error into #flood (don't paste here) |
| 23:15.25 | yoel | Help! when i run iptables -L , it says it's Incompatible with this kernel.. and before a few days it didn't say so! what can i do? |
| 23:15.26 | spdf | TuxMeister, Check to see if it worked with iwconfig |
| 23:15.44 | stew | yoel: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 23:15.52 | iptables_ | holaaaa |
| 23:15.55 | iptables_ | como estas |
| 23:15.58 | fbi | !es |
| 23:15.58 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:15.58 | some_dude | what ? |
| 23:16.00 | TuxMeister | i'll pull out the cable and try... thanks... |
| 23:16.00 | be-e | olá |
| 23:16.02 | yoel | stew: 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 23:16.04 | some_dude | now it's working |
| 23:16.07 | spdf | TuxMeister, also check with 'ndiswrapper -l' which should say something like "bcmwl5a loaded, hardware present" |
| 23:16.23 | sussudio | oh good. twin spantards. |
| 23:16.36 | fbi | i still don't know why 'es' also says that in English. |
| 23:16.40 | spdf | TuxMeister, pull out the cable? How's this thing hooked up? (Which brand/model as well..) |
| 23:17.04 | stew | cable? i thought it was wireless |
| 23:17.10 | yoel | stew: ? |
| 23:17.28 | stew | yoel: what version does "dpkg -l iptables" report? |
| 23:17.48 | Akirahedgehog | I need help. /Dev/dsp not found1 Were would I this? |
| 23:18.12 | yoel | stew: 1.2.11-10 .. linux kernel 2.4+ |
| 23:18.17 | dli__ | Akirahedgehog, do you have alsa-oss in kernel? |
| 23:18.19 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: kernel ? |
| 23:18.24 | Akirahedgehog | i dont know |
| 23:18.26 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: loaded modules ? |
| 23:18.26 | spdf | Akirahedgehog, I believe you'll need to load the oss compatibility modules.. |
| 23:18.32 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: scard type ? |
| 23:18.32 | Akirahedgehog | Ok |
| 23:18.39 | AwesomeMachine | Akirahedgehog: you don't really need dsp for sound |
| 23:18.49 | Akirahedgehog | ok... |
| 23:18.56 | AwesomeMachine | just open control center and configure alsa |
| 23:18.57 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: alsa or oss ? |
| 23:18.59 | spdf | Akirahedgehog, Which program is giving you this error? |
| 23:19.09 | Akirahedgehog | Music Player for KDE |
| 23:19.13 | stew | yoel: what happens when you "modprobe iptable_filter" |
| 23:19.16 | hognutter | what is the package called for wine? |
| 23:19.19 | abrotman | wine |
| 23:19.28 | AwesomeMachine | hognutter: wine |
| 23:19.30 | abrotman | hognutter: you should know enough to `apt-cache search wine` |
| 23:19.32 | spdf | Ahh.. You'll need to change the gstreamer settings.. |
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| 23:19.41 | hognutter | ok |
| 23:19.43 | Akirahedgehog | Ahhh |
| 23:19.45 | yoel | stew: nothing special. |
| 23:19.53 | stew | yoel: and iptables still doesn't work? |
| 23:19.54 | spdf | Music Player is just Gnomes Rythm Box, isn't it? |
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| 23:20.00 | abrotman | not quite |
| 23:20.02 | Akirahedgehog | KDE |
| 23:20.04 | abrotman | totem ... |
| 23:20.04 | yoel | stew: now it works.. |
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| 23:20.09 | yoel | stew: why is that? |
| 23:20.12 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: asking not for dumb interest, you can hele with the problem solving by answering to these questions |
| 23:20.13 | stew | yoel: well that's special then :) |
| 23:20.13 | abrotman | rhythmbox can be used though ... |
| 23:20.22 | yoel | stew: and how can i make it pertment? |
| 23:20.24 | abrotman | spdf: they have different abilities |
| 23:20.25 | Akirahedgehog | Im trying to\1 |
| 23:20.26 | Akirahedgehog | :P |
| 23:20.36 | spdf | Stupid menu naming.. |
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| 23:20.40 | stew | yoel: echo "iptable_filter" >> /etc/modules |
| 23:20.48 | Akirahedgehog | Give me a sec to figure that out Vlat |
| 23:20.56 | NURV | theine, If kill -9 don't want to kill proces, what type of command can I use? |
| 23:21.11 | Coutal | is there any web-based url to access a specific file from within a debian package? |
| 23:21.15 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: i'll help you a little if your allow |
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| 23:21.22 | theine | NURV, don't know, what do you want to kill? |
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| 23:21.28 | yoel | stew: I think it's maybe because i'm trying to upgrade to 2.6 and fails.. |
| 23:21.38 | Akirahedgehog | The thing is... i dont know if im allow |
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| 23:21.45 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: soundcard type - i think you should know what soundcard you have. if not - do the apt-get install hwinfo under the root |
| 23:21.46 | NURV | theine, It was killed :-) |
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| 23:22.05 | yoel | stew: I afraid that there are more modules that aren't loaded correctly. |
| 23:22.13 | Daniel_Yaury | Do anybody know how to move thunderbird Email from XP to debian? |
| 23:22.14 | theine | NURV, so are you able to mount the partition now? |
| 23:22.18 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: then do # hwinfo and it'll tell you (also it'll tell which modules you should load to make it work) |
| 23:22.28 | NURV | theine, /dev/hdb1 is not a valid block device |
| 23:22.31 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: irc.mozilla.org might have a channel for thunderbird |
| 23:22.47 | theine | NURV, what does `ls /dev/hdb*' give you? |
| 23:22.48 | AwesomeMachine | Daniel_Yaury: I'm not even sure you can |
| 23:22.57 | Akirahedgehog | thanks Vlat |
| 23:23.01 | Daniel_Yaury | but nobody there ,its deserted |
| 23:23.04 | yoel | where is the auto load module list for each kernel image? |
| 23:23.15 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: you mean noone .. or noone is answering ? |
| 23:23.18 | NURV | theine, hdb1-20 |
| 23:23.22 | AwesomeMachine | brb |
| 23:23.31 | NURV | theine, and hdb only |
| 23:23.35 | Daniel_Yaury | the room is empty |
| 23:23.37 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: afaik . it's just an mbox file .. right ? |
| 23:23.46 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org ? |
| 23:23.50 | theine | NURV, ok, and `sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' ? |
| 23:23.53 | Daniel_Yaury | I have try |
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| 23:24.14 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: there are 40 people there |
| 23:24.16 | slackd00d | how do i add dir's to my $PATH? is there a howto somewhere |
| 23:24.27 | abrotman | slackd00d: permanently? |
| 23:24.29 | slackd00d | ya |
| 23:24.34 | stew | !wikifaq slackd00d DotFiles |
| 23:24.35 | dpkg | slackd00d: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 23:24.35 | Vlat- | Akirahedgehog: something i'm appearing a rude to asking a lot of questions about the situation, but it's only becose none of us really know what configuration have you got. :) |
| 23:24.38 | Daniel_Yaury | maybe im in the wrong room |
| 23:24.41 | NURV | theine, It takes a while to do this |
| 23:24.54 | sussudio | !bear stew |
| 23:24.55 | Daniel_Yaury | what is the room name> |
| 23:24.56 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: i don't see you there |
| 23:25.03 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: #thunderbird |
| 23:25.08 | theine | NURV, not a good sign I guess... |
| 23:25.12 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: the server is irc.mozilla.org |
| 23:25.15 | NURV | theine, agree |
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| 23:25.56 | Vlat- | about deb..there such thing in gentoo like fbsplash |
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| 23:26.07 | Vlat- | is this available somewhere in deb ? :) |
| 23:26.12 | Vlat- | .deb |
| 23:26.14 | abrotman | !bootsplash |
| 23:26.15 | dpkg | it has been said that bootsplash is http://www.bootsplash.org/ && http://www.bootsplash.de (Themes and updates and debian packages) see also gensplash, or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/chapter/hack08.pdf |
| 23:26.19 | abrotman | i guess ? |
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| 23:26.38 | stew | badger sussudio |
| 23:26.53 | abrotman | !love Piggy |
| 23:27.02 | theine | NURV, is there any crucial data on that partition? |
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| 23:27.08 | spdf | That's some sweet lovin' |
| 23:27.24 | roby | OK, i withdraw my previous comments in regards to reiserfs... I think my hard drive itself failed, not the fs |
| 23:27.28 | Vlat- | abrotman: thanks, i knew them. just guessing about *.debs (i know how to compile :) ) |
| 23:27.30 | NURV | theine, yes This is the reason to do this |
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| 23:27.34 | demovk2 | Hi there.! i am looking for some help with xmms on debian hanging on futex_wait |
| 23:27.38 | fbi | !ricerfs |
| 23:27.38 | dpkg | well, ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
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| 23:27.42 | theine | NURV, right... |
| 23:27.45 | abrotman | Vlat-: only place i can think of is apt-get.org |
| 23:27.56 | TuxMeister | spdf, what do i now to have acces to the net... |
| 23:27.58 | abrotman | demovk2: kick it! |
| 23:28.08 | Vlat- | abrotman: by the way, is there any usefull of the bsplash ? |
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| 23:28.21 | roby | fbi: can i type !riserfs or will i get booted from here? |
| 23:28.22 | abrotman | roby: /msg dpkg fs comparison .. hit the first link .. read the reiserfs article |
| 23:28.22 | NURV | theine, I think the only think left to do is to boot from start up disk in msdos and work there |
| 23:28.22 | amphi | Vlat-: none, I believe |
| 23:28.26 | TuxMeister | spdf, i used iwconfig eth1 essid myessid and a network restart but nothin, net is unreachable |
| 23:28.31 | roby | abrotman: thanks! |
| 23:28.35 | fbi | roby: no idea, and no idea. |
| 23:28.49 | slackd00d | stew: thank you |
| 23:28.51 | fbi | i doubt there is a 'riserfs' factoid. |
| 23:28.52 | theine | NURV, so `fdisk -l' didn't finish? |
| 23:28.52 | spdf | TuxMeister, Do "dhclient eth1" |
| 23:28.55 | abrotman | roby: they're all actually good .. but you'll understand a major problem with reiser(at least reiser3 .. not sure about 4) |
| 23:29.07 | NURV | theine, no |
| 23:29.09 | fbi | actually, there is. |
| 23:29.12 | roby | abrotman: cool |
| 23:29.17 | spdf | TuxMeister, It needs to get an ip from the access point |
| 23:29.44 | fbi | roby: you can msg the bot if you ever need to |
| 23:29.57 | abrotman | mm .. |
| 23:29.57 | demovk2 | abrotman: Did not understand what you sai |
| 23:30.00 | abrotman | !feed me |
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| 23:30.12 | roby | fbi: oh yeah that worked, nice |
| 23:30.15 | amphi | TuxMeister: does iwlist eth1 scanning show anything? |
| 23:30.16 | abrotman | demovk2: are you on sid/unstable ? |
| 23:30.18 | spdf | Steak and Ale pie? |
| 23:30.24 | theine | NURV, what about `dmesg | grep hdb'? |
| 23:30.27 | abrotman | spdf: english thing i think |
| 23:30.40 | demovk2 | on sarge 2.6.8 |
| 23:30.40 | fbi | spdf: steak and kidney pie, dammit. |
| 23:30.52 | abrotman | demovk2: what is the error ? |
| 23:30.55 | spdf | I've had steak pie, but never with the ale.. |
| 23:30.58 | NURV | theine, I'm going to do it right now |
| 23:31.03 | spdf | I wonder how'd that be with a nice stout... |
| 23:31.20 | abrotman | spdf: i think that's how it's made |
| 23:31.33 | abrotman | asg: steak and ale pie! |
| 23:31.38 | fbi | meat pies == good times. |
| 23:31.42 | demovk2 | abrotman: I try to stream a playlist (.m3u file) from gnump3d and xmms is invoked by firefox which just hangs |
| 23:31.43 | spdf | I'll have to try that some time.. I've marinated in beer plenty of times for bbq'n |
| 23:31.53 | abrotman | fbi: pasties? |
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| 23:32.01 | fbi | abrotman: eh? |
| 23:32.06 | abrotman | fbi: not those! |
| 23:32.07 | sussudio | !britsnack |
| 23:32.08 | demovk2 | abrotman: a strace -p on the xmms process shows FUTEX_WAIT for some time and then the process quits |
| 23:32.17 | abrotman | demovk2: oh . i don't use xmms for streams .. try #xmms ? |
| 23:32.32 | abrotman | fbi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasties |
| 23:32.33 | demovk2 | abrotman: Thanks |
| 23:32.47 | abrotman | demovk2: you also might want to check the BTS |
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| 23:32.59 | abrotman | fbi: wrong link! |
| 23:33.03 | fbi | haha! |
| 23:33.04 | abrotman | fbi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornish_pasty |
| 23:33.06 | abrotman | fbi: that's it! |
| 23:33.08 | demovk2 | abrotman: what is BTS? |
| 23:33.16 | NURV | theine, hdb: lost interrupt hdb: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hdb: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=0, sector=0 hdb: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=32, sector=32 hdb: lost interrupt |
| 23:33.18 | fbi | i liked the first link better. |
| 23:33.29 | sussudio | NURV: maxtor? |
| 23:33.31 | theine | NURV, yikes... |
| 23:33.43 | spdf | Hooray for booby tassles! |
| 23:33.44 | NURV | sussudio, yes |
| 23:33.50 | sussudio | NURV: it's fucked |
| 23:33.56 | sbk | speaking of ReiserFS, fyi -- http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/051026.html at Stanford right now. The movie of the presentation should be up after some time -- check from http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/ later |
| 23:33.59 | abrotman | !bts |
| 23:33.59 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 23:34.05 | NURV | sussudio, It was in my old Compaq DeskPro |
| 23:34.19 | sussudio | compaq + maxtor. sounds like a winning combination. |
| 23:34.33 | demovk2 | abrotman: Thanks I will do that |
| 23:34.43 | fbi | i sensing some </sarcasm> ! |
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| 23:34.49 | NURV | sussudio, :-) |
| 23:34.53 | spdf | NURV, sounds like you got sufficient use out of it |
| 23:34.56 | cheeseypoofs | poo |
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| 23:35.03 | sussudio | NURV: anyway. it's either fucked or soon to be fucked. if there's any data still on there, try to get it off as soon as possible. |
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| 23:35.31 | NURV | sussudio, this is what I'm trying to do |
| 23:35.32 | abrotman | fbi: they're actually very good |
| 23:35.37 | abrotman | Daniel_Yaury: did you find it yet? |
| 23:35.51 | NURV | sussudio, and theine helps me |
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| 23:36.52 | abrotman | fbi: http://www.joes-pasty-shopp.bigstep.com/ |
| 23:37.01 | abrotman | fbi: you can order your own! |
| 23:37.06 | fbi | looks like a homemade hot pocket |
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| 23:37.48 | theine | NURV, I'm afraid I don't know how to help you anymore... |
| 23:37.55 | alfa | hello |
| 23:37.55 | abrotman | fbi: kind of .. |
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| 23:38.53 | theine | NURV, maybe try testdisk from the universe repository |
| 23:39.03 | yoel | What is the diffrence between iptables and ipchains? |
| 23:39.17 | fbi | testdisk should be in _any_ official repo. |
| 23:39.17 | abrotman | ipchains is dead ? |
| 23:39.31 | abrotman | theine: we're not using ubuntu |
| 23:39.39 | yoel | abrotman: I donno i have both installed :( |
| 23:39.45 | theine | abrotman, we aren't? what are we using? |
| 23:39.47 | abrotman | yoel: are you sure ? |
| 23:39.52 | abrotman | theine: we don't have universal |
| 23:40.01 | NURV | theine, fdisk -l finished 5 seconds ago :-) |
| 23:40.02 | abrotman | debian doesn't |
| 23:40.05 | yoel | abrotman: I see them on aptitude.. but ipchains doesn't work |
| 23:40.10 | abrotman | if he needs ubuntu support . .he should go to #ubuntu |
| 23:40.15 | abrotman | yoel: because it's dead :) |
| 23:40.26 | abrotman | yoel: use iptables |
| 23:40.28 | yoel | abrotman: Ok :) thanks |
| 23:40.29 | theine | abrotman, ooops |
| 23:40.32 | abrotman | !ipchains |
| 23:40.32 | dpkg | methinks ipchains is a rewrite of the Linux IPv4 firewalling code (which was mainly borrowed from BSD) and a rewrite of ipfwadm, which was a rewrite of BSD's ipfw, I believe. It is required to administer the IP packet filters in Linux kernel versions 2.1.102 and above. or Which is surpassed in kernel 2.3 (and 2.4 when released) by netfilter, which you can get and compile at netfilter.kernelnotes.org, or a regular in the channel |
| 23:40.33 | Vlat- | yoel: ipchains is old, iptables is de-facto |
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| 23:40.43 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 23:40.44 | dpkg | hmm... iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 23:40.51 | sbk | NURV: maybe you're lucky and can read other sectors :) dd_rescue maybe |
| 23:40.51 | theine | abrotman, but you're right... it says '#debian' in my tab bar... |
| 23:40.58 | abrotman | theine: i thought so |
| 23:41.01 | yoel | anywhere a nice good script for iptables? |
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| 23:41.12 | theine | NURV, nice, what did it tell you? |
| 23:41.16 | Vlat- | there's a back-compatibility for ipchains btw |
| 23:41.21 | creature | OK, so, I've got this near-dead HD, and I've now got a replacement. I'm looking for an app that will do a cdparanoia-style thing when it's copying, and if something fails when copying across it'll a) do something intelligent like try again and/or b) report the problem. |
| 23:41.23 | sbk | NURV: also, sometimes cooling the disk will help |
| 23:41.23 | NURV | sbk, I'll check |
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| 23:41.38 | stew | yoel: you don't want a nice iptables script, you want a mean one! :) fwbuilder will help you create one |
| 23:41.39 | creature | Any suggestions? |
| 23:41.40 | abrotman | creature: rsync ? |
| 23:41.41 | Vlat- | yoel: maybe, but what should it do ? |
| 23:41.50 | NURV | theine, nothing, no errors, no result :-) |
| 23:41.51 | theine | NURV, so just install testdisk, it's in the main debian repository |
| 23:42.00 | NURV | theine, it's done |
| 23:42.03 | creature | abrotman: You tell me, I don't know. :) |
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| 23:42.11 | NURV | theine, I'll start it right now |
| 23:42.18 | theine | NURV, i've never used testdisk myself actually... |
| 23:42.29 | Vlat- | stew: rm * it ! if the man can't understand ipt work process, no one script will help him :) |
| 23:42.38 | yoel | stew: hehe :) i'll try it out .. thanks :) , vlat: it needs to save my comp :) .. thanks |
| 23:42.40 | abrotman | creature: that was a hint to read the rsync man page :) |
| 23:42.55 | NURV | theine, I like to experiment :-) |
| 23:42.56 | Vlat- | rather install suse and it have yast with native IPT interface :)) |
| 23:42.58 | creature | Be more sure of yourself in future. Question marks make me nervous. |
| 23:43.11 | fbi | they do ? ? ? |
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| 23:43.26 | abrotman | creature: i'm asking you to read the man page .. it was a suggestion .. i'm not sure it does what you ask .. so you should read |
| 23:43.29 | yoel | Vlat-: suse sucks.. |
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| 23:43.35 | NURV | theine, testdisk found it like 2G :-) |
| 23:43.38 | sussudio | !irritate creature |
| 23:43.38 | dpkg | creature: wenas where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol !!!! |
| 23:43.45 | Vlat- | yoel: it does |
| 23:43.54 | theine | NURV, say again? |
| 23:44.06 | yoel | Vlat-: i know.. i hope that fwbuilder is good |
| 23:44.26 | fevel | how do I find out wich sound daemon im using? |
| 23:44.37 | azeem | fevel: do you care? |
| 23:44.38 | NURV | theine, testdisk found the hdb 2060MB but it's real size is 6.4G |
| 23:44.40 | spdf | fevel, Maybe you're not using one at all. Are you using Gnome or KDE? |
| 23:44.46 | fevel | gnome |
| 23:44.52 | Vlat- | yoel: it do the thing. but anyway i should recommend you man iptables . just for know how the things are working |
| 23:44.59 | fevel | spdf: I thought I was using alsa |
| 23:45.06 | spdf | fevel, Okay. Alsa isn't a sound server.. |
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| 23:45.12 | theine | NURV, well, 2GB is at least something... |
| 23:45.15 | spdf | fevel, Its likely that you're not running one at all.. |
| 23:45.30 | yoel | Vlat-: I know how it works :) .. i just want something to generate something generic and then to fix it.. it will be less work |
| 23:45.41 | NURV | theine, It looks good :-) |
| 23:45.44 | spdf | fevel, unless you enabled it in gnome's sound settings (Same place you would enable system sounds, for stuff like window close..etc..) |
| 23:45.45 | fevel | I just recompiled my kernel and now the sound isnt working |
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| 23:45.52 | theine | NURV, wow, cool... |
| 23:46.03 | spdf | fevel, Try running alsaconf |
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| 23:46.22 | sbk | Well -- one more URL to watch Mr Reiser live: http://cobb.stanford.edu/ocasio?MSWMExt=.asf |
| 23:46.29 | TuxMeister | spdf, hey, connected from my wifi card, thanks alot... :) |
| 23:46.31 | fevel | spdf: I mean...the sound works for the system like closing windows and stuff, but not for playing mp3 |
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| 23:47.07 | yoel | Vlat-: OK. you're right. this program sucks. |
| 23:47.08 | spdf | TuxMeister, Good stuff man |
| 23:47.27 | TuxMeister | spdf, you just entered in my white list hahaha |
| 23:47.42 | TuxMeister | spdf, now this is real mobility sensation xDDDD |
| 23:47.42 | spdf | TuxMeister, When you reboot though, your wifi will probably be named wlan0, keep that in mind.. |
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| 23:48.05 | creature | The rsync man page doesn't tell me how it handles errors. |
| 23:48.06 | spdf | TuxMeister, newer laptop? |
| 23:48.07 | TuxMeister | spdf, yeah, i allready made myself a small/stupid script to scan nets |
| 23:48.11 | creature | Or, in fact, *if* it handles errors. |
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| 23:48.15 | fevel | spdf: alsaconf command not found |
| 23:48.23 | spdf | fevel, as root? |
| 23:48.24 | abrotman | creature: see .. aren't you glad i used a ? :) |
| 23:48.34 | TuxMeister | spdf, a friend's... i'll have to grab one of these for myself, though... |
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| 23:48.41 | fevel | spdf: yes....i guess its not alsa |
| 23:48.43 | creature | Hehe. |
| 23:49.06 | spdf | TuxMeister, They are handy |
| 23:49.18 | fbi | fevel: what made you think you needed to compile your own kernel to begin with. |
| 23:49.22 | spdf | fevel, or the alsaconf tool isn't installed.. |
| 23:49.32 | creature | The other thing (which is almost entirely OT, so please excuse me) is that I want to place this new HD on my secondary IDE channel, where it has the option of cohabiting with a DVD drive. Now, in the bad old days this would throttle it to the max speed of the DVD drive. Is that still true these days? |
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| 23:50.08 | spdf | fevel, apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 23:50.08 | fevel | fbi: i was using 2.4 i386...i wanted a newer one, so I installed 2.6 k7 |
| 23:50.31 | azeem | there are precompiled 2.6 kernels for k7 |
| 23:50.32 | fbi | fevel: so you installed a 2.6? or compiled one. you said 'recompiled my kernel'. |
| 23:50.33 | TuxMeister | spdf, yeah, i have one, but old (smooth with linux xD) but i got a bit of water over it and the hd is completly broken... |
| 23:50.44 | fevel | spdf: well...do you have any idea ehy the system sound works but not noatun? |
| 23:50.51 | hognutter | how do i unzip a .zip file in linux... fileroller said bd command unzip. |
| 23:50.56 | fevel | +why |
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| 23:51.05 | azeem | hognutter: do you have unzip installed? |
| 23:51.24 | hognutter | i guess now |
| 23:51.26 | hognutter | err not |
| 23:51.29 | Guerin | !guess |
| 23:51.29 | dpkg | [guess] a hypothesis based on nothing |
| 23:51.43 | fevel | fbi: sorry...bad information, I installed it |
| 23:51.46 | spdf | fevel, Well, assuming you have sound working, then noatun might need a sound server of sorts.. |
| 23:51.59 | Guerin | noatun needs arts |
| 23:52.05 | Guerin | which is a good reason not to use it |
| 23:52.07 | mlewis00 | Could someone with a TouchPad that is working correctly please post their XF86Config-4? I have a Synaptics Touchpad (Acer Travelmate 2413) and can't get it to respond correctly to taps...Thanks! |
| 23:52.21 | Guerin | mlewis00: /msg dpkg synaptics |
| 23:52.22 | mlewis00 | To #flood that is... |
| 23:52.23 | sussudio | in soviet russia, pad touches you |
| 23:52.29 | fevel | Guerin: Yes I think I used arts before i installed 2.6 |
| 23:52.31 | fbi | fevel: do you want to try alsa? |
| 23:52.35 | mlewis00 | Guerin: Thanks! |
| 23:52.41 | fevel | fbi: for sure |
| 23:52.53 | fevel | fbi: ive heard its the best right? |
| 23:53.06 | fbi | fevel: run this entire command as root: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf; alsamixer |
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| 23:53.35 | fbi | fevel: it depends. if i am installing debian on a box with a soundcard the oss still supports, i stick with oss. |
| 23:53.39 | fevel | fbi: is that all, or will I have to uninstall the server im using right now? |
| 23:53.49 | fbi | fevel: run that entire command. |
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| 23:55.48 | yoel | wait a second.. it says that the iptables rules are being deleted after the computer reboot! |
| 23:56.17 | fevel | fbi: actually I dont think I will. just found out that sound is working fine except on noatun. I thing ill stick to Guerin s advice |
| 23:56.24 | abrotman | yoel: did you read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* ? |
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| 23:57.05 | fevel | fbi: can you name a good mp3 player? how about xmms?? |
| 23:57.12 | abrotman | xmms/zinf |
| 23:57.20 | sussudio | !tell fevel about search |
| 23:57.20 | fbi | fevel: i use mpg321 |
| 23:57.20 | yoel | abrotman: Hmm.. i have only ipchains/* there.. no iptables |
| 23:57.30 | abrotman | yoel: don't use ipchains .. install iptables |
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| 23:57.54 | yoel | abrotman: I'm using iptables.. I have no idea why ipchains is installed. |
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| 23:58.22 | abrotman | yoel: uninstall it |
| 23:59.00 | yoel | abrotman: Ok |
| 23:59.03 | hognutter | does usb devices work like in windows.. hot plug and play? |
| 23:59.08 | abrotman | they can |
| 23:59.38 | Baeaeken | Hey, how do I get my AltGr-key to work in x11 |
| 23:59.40 | Tortel | yay |
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