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| 00:00.31 | vitriol | i want to see the code for the debian disk partition stuff in the installer...anybody know where i could find that on the install cd? |
| 00:00.31 | abrotman | does anyone know if the floppies have pcmcia support ? |
| 00:00.48 | abrotman | netsurf3: you might get a bit more help in #debian-boot .. if they're awake |
| 00:00.55 | Drakh | hi guys, whats a good free (beer or freedom) ftp server that runs on linux and windows |
| 00:01.14 | abrotman | Drakh: i told you earlier |
| 00:01.21 | Drakh | i forgot to check :( |
| 00:01.30 | Drakh | Im at the office right nowand I got busy |
| 00:01.34 | Drakh | plz forgive me |
| 00:01.49 | Drakh | please tell me again! |
| 00:02.00 | Drakh | or i fear I will die |
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| 00:02.12 | abrotman | i told you like 8 hours ago |
| 00:02.17 | Drakh | :((( |
| 00:02.29 | Drakh | please tell me one more time |
| 00:02.31 | Drakh | you are hurting me |
| 00:02.32 | abrotman | windows server versions have an ftp server in them |
| 00:02.39 | Drakh | bah |
| 00:02.48 | cddesjar | windows blows |
| 00:02.48 | abrotman | did you try tucows ? |
| 00:02.51 | vitriol | guess nobody knows...goes back to searching |
| 00:02.51 | Drakh | that's what you told me!? |
| 00:02.55 | abrotman | did you try cygwin ? |
| 00:02.56 | Drakh | THAT is what you told me |
| 00:03.09 | abrotman | vitriol: ask #debian-boot |
| 00:03.15 | stew | Drakh: the popular debian ftpds are pureftpd proftpd and vsftpd, see if any of them have windows ports |
| 00:03.20 | Drakh | anyone with half a brain knows windows has a joke of an ftp service |
| 00:03.20 | abrotman | Drakh: did you even TRY to google ? |
| 00:03.25 | Drakh | gurgle |
| 00:03.27 | Drakh | brb |
| 00:03.35 | Drakh | •abrotman• don't be hatin |
| 00:03.42 | abrotman | don't be lazy |
| 00:03.44 | stew | Drakh: no, anyone with have a brain knows that ftp is a joke of a protocol in the first place :) |
| 00:03.51 | vitriol | oh thanks abrotman |
| 00:03.52 | PerfDave | Everyone with half a brain knows that FTP is a joke ;) |
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| 00:03.56 | PerfDave | Bah, damn you stew! |
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| 00:03.58 | stew | :) |
| 00:04.18 | Tortel | !lazy |
| 00:04.18 | dpkg | Well, we don't service lazy people, sorry. |
| 00:04.20 | somePriest | I'm running in stable, but I want MySQL 4.1 or 5.0. Is there an easy way to install either without getting a trillion unstable dependencies? |
| 00:04.33 | stew | somePriest: apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
| 00:04.53 | abrotman | somePriest: 4.1 is in sarge .. 5.0 is available at backports.org(no security support afaik) |
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| 00:06.24 | abrotman | azeem: are you going to kill me if i file a bunch of bugs on jack? |
| 00:06.33 | stew | do it! |
| 00:07.06 | abrotman | stew: it has issues .. |
| 00:07.08 | eeyore- | bye :) |
| 00:07.13 | stew | and help them get fixed, so when i finally get around to installing jack its better :) |
| 00:07.27 | abrotman | jack <bunch of options> --save .. doesn't work .. but jack --save <bunch of options> does |
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| 00:07.57 | PerfDave | Bah, why don't TVs have mind control instead of remote control? |
| 00:07.59 | stew | sounds like someone should have used getoptlong |
| 00:08.07 | abrotman | PerfDave: how lazy would you like to be? :) |
| 00:08.18 | stew | PerfDave: but, they do have mind control, just the wrong direction |
| 00:08.27 | PerfDave | abrotman: Lazy enough to not get up and grab the remote from the other sofa. |
| 00:08.49 | kenboo | how to check if a user exists ? i don't like grep /etc/passwd username |
| 00:08.49 | cddesjar | anyone familiar with the laptop-net package? i am looking for a dhcp package as i need one to connect with my ethernet card, but i was wondering what else was out there for laptop users? |
| 00:08.56 | stew | PerfDave: the only thing that is attached to our tv is a mythbox, so i can ssh into it :) |
| 00:09.08 | PerfDave | stew: The win is you! :) |
| 00:09.28 | stew | unfortunately myth doesn't accept keyboard control from stdin |
| 00:09.31 | PerfDave | cddesjar: You don't need to install a seperate package to use DHCP, you should already have dhclient installer. |
| 00:09.38 | stew | but i can start mplayer |
| 00:09.39 | PerfDave | stew: Patchpatchpatch! :) |
| 00:09.44 | stew | yeah, i've looked into it |
| 00:10.03 | stew | too much other stuff to justify that one :) |
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| 00:10.25 | cddesjar | PerfDave: what's the package that I should have? |
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| 00:11.35 | stew | it was going to be hairy too, i was going to have to take the stdin and then post qt events |
| 00:11.39 | cddesjar | i am curious if theres ever any women in these ircs not cause i'm looking to pick up any but it seems like a pretty guy orientated thing...or at least linux ircs do |
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| 00:12.00 | abrotman | cddesjar: there are |
| 00:12.06 | abrotman | dpkg: gender |
| 00:12.07 | dpkg | I'm male |
| 00:12.13 | stew | @gender |
| 00:12.13 | ravenbird | I'm sexless |
| 00:12.13 | abrotman | that backfired :) |
| 00:12.19 | abrotman | dpkg: gender |
| 00:12.19 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 00:12.22 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 00:12.26 | stew | closer |
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| 00:12.40 | abrotman | let's just say that Gnea is a girl! |
| 00:12.59 | netsurf3 | abrotman i got it working |
| 00:13.03 | abrotman | netsurf3: how ? |
| 00:13.04 | cddesjar | dpkg: gender |
| 00:13.04 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 00:13.11 | abrotman | netsurf3: they helped you ? |
| 00:13.14 | netsurf3 | non pcmica drivers |
| 00:13.15 | netsurf3 | nahh |
| 00:13.19 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
| 00:13.20 | netsurf3 | they sleeping ;) |
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| 00:13.26 | abrotman | yeah .. sometimes they do that! |
| 00:13.29 | netsurf3 | tulip drivers were needed |
| 00:13.33 | abrotman | ah ok .. |
| 00:13.39 | netsurf3 | so just choose the only one their |
| 00:13.44 | netsurf3 | *there |
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| 00:13.51 | abrotman | ah .. |
| 00:13.56 | abrotman | good .. glad it works |
| 00:14.38 | netsurf3 | thanks for your help |
| 00:14.41 | netsurf3 | :) |
| 00:14.47 | abrotman | enjoy! |
| 00:14.50 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 00:14.54 | netsurf3 | if it works :) |
| 00:15.03 | netsurf3 | and i can boot into 98 if need be |
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| 00:15.24 | netsurf3 | next task after install my belkin usb wlan |
| 00:15.26 | netsurf3 | :) |
| 00:15.29 | netsurf3 | FUN |
| 00:15.31 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:15.32 | cddesjar | god does xfce4 for sarge have a sitty file manager |
| 00:15.46 | abrotman | xfe ? |
| 00:15.58 | PerfDave | Eww, Belkin :) |
| 00:16.11 | c_k | guys which file is it that needs to be edited to make a nick run at duplex auto |
| 00:16.12 | dvs | PerfDave: What's wrong with Belkin? |
| 00:16.19 | cddesjar | !xfce4 |
| 00:16.19 | dpkg | well, xfce4 is see xfce |
| 00:16.23 | cddesjar | !xfce |
| 00:16.23 | dpkg | xfce is probably a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. http://www.xfce.org/ . Sarge : apt-get install xfce4 Woody : apt-get install xfce |
| 00:16.27 | c_k | thought it would have been /etc/network/interface |
| 00:16.41 | PerfDave | dvs: Every bit of Belkin kit I've ever used has been a complete pile of steaming shit. |
| 00:16.50 | dvs | PerfDave: Oh, a Tandy! |
| 00:16.57 | cddesjar | i've had nothing but problems with belkin too |
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| 00:17.22 | PerfDave | cddesjar: As I said, you should have dhclient installed - read "man 5 interfaces" to learn how to set up dhcp. |
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| 00:17.49 | cddesjar | PerfDave: oh...i want it automated...that's why i generally install laptop-net |
| 00:18.05 | PerfDave | cddesjar: What do you mean, automated? DHCP *is* automated. |
| 00:18.17 | cddesjar | PerfDave: well you said "set up" |
| 00:18.21 | abrotman | !literal xfce4 |
| 00:18.21 | dpkg | xfce4 is see xfce |
| 00:18.31 | abrotman | dpkg: no xfce4 is <reply>see xfce |
| 00:18.31 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 00:18.33 | PerfDave | cddesjar: Yeah, you have to tell Debian that you want to use DHCP for a particular interface. |
| 00:18.39 | PerfDave | Then that's it. |
| 00:18.42 | cddesjar | oh |
| 00:18.53 | abrotman | PerfDave: too easy .. make harder! |
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| 00:19.16 | stew | cddesjar: the cheat sheet is: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 00:19.22 | tybalt89 | My sarge metacity is not decorating several X11 client apps. Is there a config or setting for this? Answer: WM_STATE must be set to 1. |
| 00:19.31 | abrotman | yay |
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| 00:19.39 | stew | !be interfaces barbie |
| 00:19.40 | PerfDave | Fucking wikis |
| 00:19.42 | stew | or something |
| 00:19.55 | dvs | !be barbie interfaces |
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| 00:20.27 | cddesjar | i'm confused would it be auto or static? |
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| 00:20.48 | abrotman | dude .. read the man page :) |
| 00:20.48 | cddesjar | oh it must be auto cause i don't have to enter my values ever |
| 00:20.59 | cddesjar | i'm looking at the man page and at the pkg message |
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| 00:21.01 | PerfDave | cddesjar: "auto" and "static" refer to two different things. |
| 00:21.08 | cddesjar | yeah i see that |
| 00:21.10 | stew | cddesjar: those are independent, you want auto and dhcp |
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| 00:21.53 | cddesjar | i want iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 00:22.05 | stew | !win cddesjar |
| 00:22.06 | dpkg | Congratulations, cddesjar! You have won the US presidency! |
| 00:22.12 | dvs | cddesjar: And then auto eth0 |
| 00:22.16 | cddesjar | sweet...i knew i could beat bush |
| 00:22.22 | stew | !beat bush |
| 00:23.10 | PerfDave | I'd pay good money to beat Dubya. Preferably with a fireaxe. |
| 00:23.53 | abrotman | that's not really a beating |
| 00:23.59 | abrotman | PerfDave: fix jack! |
| 00:24.59 | PerfDave | abrotman: Fuck jack! |
| 00:25.27 | abrotman | PerfDave: it's a nice app .. this renaming this is dumb/broken |
| 00:25.28 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.39 | cddesjar | auto eth0 above or below that line? |
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| 00:25.52 | dvs | cddesjar: I'd put it below |
| 00:25.55 | stew | cddesjar: typically above but i don't think it matters |
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| 00:26.21 | cddesjar | fuck i can't exit nano...isn't it just esc then X |
| 00:26.50 | stew | ctrl-x |
| 00:26.56 | beardy | cddesjar: Ctrl-x, and it says so down to the left.. |
| 00:27.10 | cddesjar | i usually use vi |
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| 00:27.34 | PerfDave | abrotman: abcde! :) |
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| 00:27.47 | abrotman | PerfDave: it doesn't do what i want! |
| 00:28.00 | abrotman | PerfDave: remember .. it fails if the freedb lookup fails! |
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| 00:28.03 | PerfDave | abrotman: Fix it! It's a piss-easyh shell script! |
| 00:28.10 | PerfDave | No it doesn't! |
| 00:28.23 | abrotman | it did for me! |
| 00:28.28 | PerfDave | Then you suck! |
| 00:28.35 | abrotman | or abcde does |
| 00:28.41 | abrotman | ! |
| 00:28.59 | PerfDave | No, abcde is great! |
| 00:29.13 | PerfDave | Plus it's a bloody shell script, so it's really easy to debug and patch! ;) |
| 00:29.22 | abrotman | oh .. jack is just python |
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| 00:30.06 | PerfDave | Python schmython :) |
| 00:30.11 | abrotman | for that matter .. < 300 lines of python |
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| 00:31.19 | PerfDave | And abcde is 2,500 lines of bash, far easier to debug and patch! |
| 00:32.02 | abrotman | oh wait .. i lied |
| 00:32.16 | abrotman | it imports a few other python files |
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| 00:33.11 | dbw-LAPTOP | hey guys |
| 00:33.20 | abrotman | no |
| 00:33.31 | PerfDave | TBH, abcde would be much much smaller if it wasn't hugely well commented, and didn't use GNU bracing ;) |
| 00:34.05 | dbw-LAPTOP | since my last dist-upgrade, all packages are "not authenticated" |
| 00:34.11 | dbw-LAPTOP | how do i fix this? |
| 00:34.20 | cheal | !2.6.13 |
| 00:34.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, 2.6.13 is in experimental |
| 00:34.25 | cheal | dpkg: forget 2.6.13 |
| 00:34.25 | dpkg | i forgot 2.6.13, cheal |
| 00:34.26 | abrotman | PerfDave: i blame bash! |
| 00:34.34 | cddesjar | 2.6.14 is in sid now |
| 00:34.34 | PerfDave | dbw-LAPTOP: /msg dpkg apt-secure |
| 00:34.43 | abrotman | we know |
| 00:34.43 | dbw-LAPTOP | thanks PerfDave |
| 00:35.12 | cddesjar | why is 2.6.13 in experimental if .14 is in sid? |
| 00:35.27 | abrotman | because 2.6.14 was released .. yesterday? |
| 00:35.28 | cheal | cddesjar: I asked dpkg to forget that factoid |
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| 00:35.37 | abrotman | no .. today |
| 00:35.50 | cheal | it was packaged today |
| 00:35.57 | cddesjar | oh |
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| 00:37.30 | Horde | how do i detect hardware? |
| 00:37.39 | dvs | Horde: discover |
| 00:38.12 | sussudio | Horde: see that thing in front of you with the text scrolling? |
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| 00:38.33 | Horde | ... |
| 00:38.48 | sussudio | Horde: that's called a "computer monitor". it's hardware. you just detected it. congrats. |
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| 00:39.17 | cddesjar | should packages be installed if they can not be authenticated? |
| 00:39.47 | dvs | cddesjar: Just install the keys first |
| 00:39.58 | cddesjar | argh...i forgot how to install keys ;( |
| 00:40.05 | beardy | not if authentication is going to have any meaning |
| 00:40.06 | fusQuanto | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.00 | Fixion | I just installed xorg and whenever I try to start gdm it flashes back and forth from the console to a gdm error screen. The gdm error isn't the problem (messed up fonts), but the console prints out apm errors (eg. apm machine_real_reset), then I can't type anything, its like the computer freezes, the keyboard won't respond. why? |
| 00:41.01 | PerfDave | fusQuanto: You may want to ask #samba that question :) |
| 00:41.46 | fusQuanto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:43.20 | abrotman | Fixion: nvidia ? |
| 00:43.31 | Fixion | abrotman: yeah, how'd you guess |
| 00:43.34 | hawking | do deb and ian still love each other? |
| 00:43.44 | Fixion | abrotman: nforce2 motherboard |
| 00:43.49 | abrotman | Fixion: did you reinstall the nvidia drivers? |
| 00:44.07 | Fixion | I installed them once, should I recompile/reinstall the modules? |
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| 00:44.39 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:44.43 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 00:44.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 00:45.25 | thingfish | hawking: no, they broke up long ago and it was real messy. All their kids have serious emotional problems. |
| 00:45.49 | hawking | thingfish: that's sad |
| 00:46.07 | thingfish | oh please don't tell me you believed that. |
| 00:46.18 | lsald | hawking, i never knew the deb & ian story |
| 00:46.34 | Fixion | abrotman: I have xorg, not xfree86 installed, is this a problem? |
| 00:46.37 | cddesjar | "deb" "ian" = iandeb |
| 00:46.45 | hawking | thingfish: oh please don't tell me you thought I believed that |
| 00:46.50 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:46.52 | winicius | Does anyone here have the testing repository (/etc/apt/sources.list) to obtain mplayer and or vlc ? ? |
| 00:46.58 | abrotman | Fixion: no .. substitude xserver-xfree86 with xserver-xorg |
| 00:47.22 | hytt | winicius> |
| 00:47.25 | Fixion | abrotman: thats helluva oneliner |
| 00:47.26 | hytt | !marillat |
| 00:47.27 | dpkg | i heard marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 00:47.30 | Fixion | abrotman: thanks |
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| 00:48.02 | Fixion | abrotman: it still does it :-/ |
| 00:48.04 | winicius | And VLC anyone? ? ? |
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| 00:48.16 | Fixion | abrotman: sorta, at least it doesn't freez anymore |
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| 00:48.31 | abrotman | Fixion: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. look for EE lines |
| 00:48.36 | Fixion | it just complains "apm: Unknown symbol machine_real_restart" |
| 00:48.40 | Fixion | ok |
| 00:48.56 | cddesjar | is oo.org2 in unstable now? |
| 00:49.06 | cheal | cddesjar: as openoffice.org |
| 00:49.07 | hytt | winicius> deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/ sid main |
| 00:49.21 | cddesjar | the ok |
| 00:49.23 | hytt | look them site |
| 00:49.29 | Fixion | apparently it can't load the "fglrx" driver, it says it doesn't exist o_O |
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| 00:49.37 | cddesjar | ok...i am contemplating either installing that or staroffice 8 cause i have a free copy |
| 00:49.39 | Fixion | yet its inserted... |
| 00:49.49 | cddesjar | but there basically the same program |
| 00:49.57 | abrotman | Fixion: that's for ati |
| 00:50.01 | abrotman | i think |
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| 00:50.18 | Fixion | abrotman: yeah, I installed it, donno why it's not working |
| 00:50.29 | hawking | !DaveX_Svr Syngress - Buffer Overflow Attacks. Detect, Exploit, Prevent.pdf |
| 00:50.37 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
| 00:50.42 | hawking | oops mistell |
| 00:50.46 | abrotman | Fixion: is your video card ati or nvidia ? |
| 00:50.48 | earspoon | trying to install mpeg4ip server, from marillat repo. depends on libfaad2.1 but his version of libfaad is called libfaad2-cvs. How do i trick mpeg4ip into using the diffently named library? |
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| 00:50.51 | Fixion | I compiled it, configured xorg.conf, and the module is inserted, so I don't really know why its not working |
| 00:50.55 | Fixion | abrotman: ati |
| 00:50.58 | Fixion | 9800pro |
| 00:51.07 | WiFiTux | is there any package that will monitor the syslog or any file with a daemon? I want Linux to tell me when something happends in the syslog. Extracting with a tail of the file. |
| 00:51.28 | WiFiTux | depending on a syntax of an error. |
| 00:51.45 | abrotman | Fixion: then you must reinstall your ati drivers |
| 00:51.47 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 00:51.47 | dpkg | well, ati debs is http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 00:53.03 | earspoon | or, how do I get the .deb file for the version of libfaad2-0 on this computer off of it so I can install it on the other one? |
| 00:53.18 | earspoon | I have already done an apt-cache clean when I ran out of disk space |
| 00:53.53 | abrotman | earspoon: apt-get remove ? |
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| 00:54.11 | cheal | earspoon: which version? |
| 00:54.33 | WiFiTux | No? no one? |
| 00:54.38 | Fixion | xorg says I have no valid font paths, what package do I need? |
| 00:55.13 | hotzenplotz | mh.. i keep having strange bugs with the deb installers(woody and sarge, both are the same) first the insmod for my scsi cdrom does not finish and second i canot install grub, because when it tries to find out my "bios devices" it also stops working :( is there any way to work around that?? |
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| 00:55.23 | earspoon | no, I want to keep the version on this computer, duplicate it and install it on another computer. it seems the rarewares change of name made it not work, but i have the old version here |
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| 00:55.31 | WiFiTux | Fixion: apt-cache search xfonts-base |
| 00:55.32 | earspoon | so, how to make a .deb from an installed file? |
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| 00:56.40 | Tortel | Goodnight all! |
| 00:56.56 | Fixion | WiFiTux: thanks |
| 00:59.04 | earspoon | quit |
| 00:59.06 | earspoon | exit |
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| 00:59.13 | sussudio | !annoy penix |
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| 00:59.31 | earspoon | dunno the bitchx commands. sorry. |
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| 01:00.18 | Fixion | trying to insert "nvaudio" into the kernel, causes a kernel panic, anyone know why? |
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| 01:01.23 | WiFiTux | Fixion: you need to google more. |
| 01:01.32 | cheal | Fixion: why do you want to use nvaudio? |
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| 01:02.03 | Fixion | cheal: I have an nforce2 motherboard, is there an other sound driver? |
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| 01:02.48 | Phibs | any ideas? |
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| 01:03.35 | Dasnipa` | has anyone heard of a problem occurring when installing nvidia drivers i did it according to the guide that dpkg has but when i did it, i get an error trying to run any JVM applet and any sdl based app cant launch a video mode |
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| 01:05.01 | rodan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.16 | rodan | mpeg4ip-server that is... at the rarewares repo |
| 01:05.30 | rodan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:05.47 | dondelelcaro | rodan: build a real .deb out of the cvs package or use equivs. |
| 01:05.51 | yel | hello people! |
| 01:06.14 | rodan | dondelelcaro, please elaborate... |
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| 01:06.25 | yel | is there any SHOUTcast server as maintained debian package ? |
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| 01:06.55 | rodan | yel, icecast? |
| 01:07.26 | yel | rodan, im new to this technology thats why im asking do you habe experiece with iceccast ? |
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| 01:07.37 | cheal | Fixion: yesm snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:07.46 | rodan | a little. Set up an icecast server long time ago... |
| 01:07.48 | roby | How can I list what usb devices are attached? |
| 01:08.00 | Fixion | cheal: thanks! |
| 01:08.04 | ohad | hi, for some reason, both firefox and noatun get stuck, my fear is that other windows get stuck as well. they open and then when i try to load a sound file or a cetain website the windows just get stuck and don't respond. i should have enough memory. everything worked just fine till now. ideas which logs i should look into in order to understand this problem? |
| 01:08.16 | hytt | yel> http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/ |
| 01:08.16 | dondelelcaro | !+info libfaad2-0cvs |
| 01:08.18 | dpkg | Package 'libfaad2-0cvs' does not exist. |
| 01:08.21 | ohad | actually it takes a really long time to load those windows.. |
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| 01:09.09 | dondelelcaro | rodan: as you can tell, there isn't a libfaad2-0cvs package in Debian... if someone was building against such a thing, they're likely to end up with a totally broken package anyway, because the soname should be encoded in the package name, and I hope 2-0cvs isn't the soname. |
| 01:09.12 | nige | anyone using a raedon successfully with daul monitors in XFE86? |
| 01:09.23 | brimstone | is there an easy howto for setting up an access point in debian? |
| 01:09.24 | ohad | ideas what logs i should look into to see what is the reason for the major slowdown? |
| 01:09.44 | dondelelcaro | brimstone: set up your interfaces, and install ipmasq; that's pretty much it. |
| 01:09.59 | rodan | libfaad2-cvs0 |
| 01:10.04 | dondelelcaro | ohad: how log does it take to ping $(localhost) |
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| 01:10.10 | dondelelcaro | s/localhost/hostname/ |
| 01:10.13 | rodan | !+info libfaad2-cvs0 |
| 01:10.15 | dpkg | Package 'libfaad2-cvs0' does not exist. |
| 01:10.20 | brimstone | dondelelcaro: i can't get eth2, the wifi card, to accept and ssid, and the laptop doesn't see it |
| 01:10.22 | hytt | dondelelcaro> in debian libfaad2-0 exist, the cvs version is 2-1 |
| 01:10.31 | brimstone | dondelelcaro: it's trying to be a client to the wifi still |
| 01:10.31 | rodan | dondelelcaro, it's from rarewares repository |
| 01:10.41 | dondelelcaro | hytt: hence it should be called libfaad2-1, not libfaad2-0cvs |
| 01:10.43 | yel | rodan, icecast seem to have a good docummentation im going to try it ! thanks |
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| 01:11.00 | hytt | in testing 2-1 dont exist |
| 01:11.02 | rodan | yel, good luck. good product |
| 01:11.22 | cddesjar | hey do you guys know how to add a signature to your outgoing mail via Thunderibrd? |
| 01:11.23 | ohad | dondelelcaro, seems to take forever.. |
| 01:11.25 | dondelelcaro | hytt: uh, because it isn't even in unstable yet... |
| 01:11.41 | dondelelcaro | ohad: right, your hostname isn't resolving; you need to add an entry for it into /etc/hosts |
| 01:11.51 | rodan | so, I have a file called libfaad2-cvs0, but mpeg4ip-server depends on |
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| 01:11.57 | ohad | dondelelcaro, what should i add there? |
| 01:12.02 | hytt | Package: libfaad2-0 |
| 01:12.02 | hytt | Versions: |
| 01:12.02 | hytt | 2.0.0-0.7 |
| 01:12.18 | rodan | libfaad2-0 >=2.1.beta+cvs20041121.12 |
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| 01:12.32 | ohad | dondelelcaro, right now i have - 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost miko |
| 01:12.42 | hytt | lool |
| 01:12.42 | dondelelcaro | ohad: and what does hostname return? |
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| 01:13.12 | ohad | dondelelcaro, miko |
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| 01:13.20 | dondelelcaro | rodan: so just recompile it against the libfaad2-0 in unstable, or install that version of libfaad2 from whoever is distributing it. |
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| 01:13.26 | ohad | dondelelcaro, it seems to be configured correctly tho.. |
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| 01:13.47 | dondelelcaro | ohad: what does hostname --fqdn; return? |
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| 01:14.28 | ohad | dondelelcaro, localhost.localdomain |
| 01:15.00 | cddesjar | hey what if apt-listbugs has a bug? would you install it? |
| 01:15.07 | rodan | dondelelcaro, whoever is distributing, xmixahlx, has built it against the version that he has renamed with the cvs in it... so I have the right version installed, it is just named wrong |
| 01:15.10 | roby | I got my ipod plugged to a usb slot on the back of my box, what is the path to this device? |
| 01:15.13 | dondelelcaro | ohad: right, change the order of your /etc/hosts to be 127.0.0.1 miko.whateveryourdomainiscalled miko localhost.localdomain localhost; etc. |
| 01:15.35 | cheal | cddesjar: you mean if apt-listbugs tells you a package has a bug, would you install the buggy package? |
| 01:15.38 | roby | or possible path to the usb device |
| 01:15.42 | dondelelcaro | rodan: well, e-mail whoever is buildling it and have them fix their package, or recompile it yourself. |
| 01:16.02 | cddesjar | no...i mean what if you're going to install apt-listbugs but apt-listbugs has a bug but you don't know that because you don't have apt-listbugs installed |
| 01:16.13 | cddesjar | i am just being silly |
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| 01:16.21 | rodan | yeah, im doing it, i thought there was a cheap fix, like I could rename the library or something |
| 01:16.43 | cheal | cddesjar: then you'd bug the apt-listbugs maintainer about the bug |
| 01:16.53 | cddesjar | ha ha |
| 01:17.00 | dondelelcaro | or file a bug against apt-listbugs |
| 01:17.04 | dondelelcaro | it's not that difficult |
| 01:17.10 | ohad | dondelelcaro, ok. done.. there's also this very tiny beep from the hard drive (i hate that small beep) it usally states that the hd is about to die.. do you know what i'm talking about? |
| 01:17.18 | cddesjar | i know i am just being funny |
| 01:17.24 | cddesjar | or not |
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| 01:17.40 | ohad | dondelelcaro, i mean silent. not too lound beep that happens prob. with the cycles of the hd |
| 01:17.49 | dondelelcaro | ohad: just run smartctl on your drive |
| 01:18.03 | dondelelcaro | ohad: it should give you some idea if your drive is going to fail or not |
| 01:18.13 | Any_Key | roby: how many USBs do you have ? |
| 01:18.21 | ohad | dondelelcaro, do i just install the smartctl pkg and run it? |
| 01:18.21 | roby | Any_Key: 4 |
| 01:18.31 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: Thanks for the great help with the perl search and replace command you gave me. It saved me hours of work and I use this command all the time now . |
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| 01:18.48 | roby | Any_Key: cat /proc/scsi/scsi says there is an ipod on scsi1 |
| 01:19.14 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: np |
| 01:19.24 | dondelelcaro | ohad: pretty much, yes. |
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| 01:19.44 | ohad | dondelelcaro, is this the pkg ? smartmontools? |
| 01:19.49 | dondelelcaro | ohad: yes. |
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| 01:20.23 | roby | Any_Key: looks like it's /dev/sda1 ... i just mounted that device and it lists my ipod contents :) |
| 01:20.32 | Any_Key | try /dev/sda first the add number |
| 01:20.37 | Nihilanth | Has anyone installed the testing/unstable xfce4 packages? |
| 01:21.09 | dondelelcaro | !anyone |
| 01:21.09 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 01:21.21 | netsurf3 | ack can someone help me my ethernet is pcmica but it checks for eth0 before the driver has loaded any ideas on how to fix? |
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| 01:21.51 | Any_Key | roby: good yyou found it :-) |
| 01:22.08 | roby | Any_Key: indeed :) |
| 01:22.10 | error403 | Is there any way to remove artsd completely? It just really annoys me when artsd grabs the sound device, and WONT give it back unless you manually kill it... |
| 01:22.26 | ohad | dondelelcaro, thanks |
| 01:22.46 | mfrisch | error403 purge it |
| 01:23.03 | Nihilanth | ok, well. I get unmet dependency issues with the testing/unstable xfld-desktop package, are there any ideas on ways to fix this? |
| 01:23.32 | dondelelcaro | !bat |
| 01:23.32 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
| 01:24.01 | error403 | mfrisch, as in apt-get --purge remove artsd ? |
| 01:24.32 | mfrisch | error403 apt-get remove --purge artsd..yes |
| 01:25.13 | error403 | mfrisch, thanks... not likely to break anything is it? everything i rely on uses xine engine - I'm guesssing it will just kill the KDE login sound? |
| 01:25.37 | mfrisch | error403 not critical. |
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| 01:26.10 | error403 | mfrisch, it seems to have been a virtual package |
| 01:26.18 | error403 | only freed 78kb of space :S |
| 01:26.57 | mfrisch | error403 dpkg -l|grep art |
| 01:27.48 | error403 | mfrisch, libarts1 seems to be what i am after |
| 01:27.54 | error403 | yes? |
| 01:28.20 | mfrisch | error403 I donot touch the stuff...I donot know sounds right |
| 01:28.31 | error403 | fair enough |
| 01:28.33 | dondelelcaro | Nihilanth: ok, you should be able to install either of those two packages, so apt-get install xterminal xfmedia; and give the output gain... |
| 01:28.43 | dondelelcaro | s/gain/again/ |
| 01:30.41 | error403 | Ouch - if i try to remove libarts, it tries to remove the rest of KDE |
| 01:30.42 | error403 | >.< |
| 01:30.51 | error403 | like trying to del IE from Windows |
| 01:31.16 | dondelelcaro | !+info libc6 etch |
| 01:31.17 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 01:31.23 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.5-6 (etch), Packaged size: 4815 kB, Installed size: 16356 kB |
| 01:31.43 | dondelelcaro | Nihilanth: that looks like you haven't completed your upgrade to testing yet. Run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; until you've completed the upgrade. |
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| 01:32.07 | cheal | error403: arts is part of KDE |
| 01:32.17 | mr_red | yo !! why linux ? |
| 01:32.25 | dondelelcaro | !tell mr_red -about why debian |
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| 01:32.35 | cheal | error403: you don't have to kill arts to make it give back the sound device |
| 01:32.36 | mr_red | what for ? do to what ? |
| 01:32.46 | dondelelcaro | mr_red: you tell us. |
| 01:32.49 | mr_red | ESC-x to and do |
| 01:33.10 | error403 | cheal, really? what do i need to do then? |
| 01:33.20 | mr_red | dondelelcaro, hope because you are near seven hundred here you can tell me |
| 01:33.39 | cheal | error403: $ artsshell suspend |
| 01:33.43 | error403 | cheal, every time i run an app that uses arts for sound, I cant use my sound device for hours, unless i killall artsd |
| 01:33.58 | mr_red | why almost linux and not all linux ? |
| 01:34.04 | dondelelcaro | mr_red: read the documentation that the bot told you about; if you have questions after that, feel free to ask them then. |
| 01:34.05 | error403 | cheal, with that, i might as well killall artsd anyway |
| 01:34.32 | mr_red | dondelelcaro, that's why i am doing :) |
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| 01:35.16 | cheal | error403: the difference being that $ artsshell suspend; doesn't kill anything, and you won't have to restart arts manually to launch KDE apps using sound after |
| 01:35.26 | mr_red | dondelelcaro, ('don' ??! like mafia ?!?), i rode all you can imagine about documentation and i come here and ask .. |
| 01:35.38 | mr_red | why almost linux and not all linux ? |
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| 01:38.47 | error403 | cheal, i have never started arts manually... |
| 01:39.03 | error403 | cheal, is there any way to stop arts being a device hog, period? |
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| 01:40.00 | cheal | error403: all Linux applications will monopolize your sound unless you configure dmix or have some specifically good audio chipset |
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| 01:40.29 | stochastic | I'm a newbie that doesn't understand devices and I can't get my floppy drive to work |
| 01:40.53 | mfrisch | stochastic man mount |
| 01:40.56 | cheal | the difference is that all apps using arts don't conflict |
| 01:41.17 | cheal | stochastic: what do you expect and what happens? |
| 01:41.31 | Xenguy | stochastic: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt |
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| 01:42.10 | Dasnipa` | or mkdir /mnt/floppy mount /dev/fd0/floppy |
| 01:42.12 | cheal | mount /media/floppy; even |
| 01:42.16 | error403 | cheal, i have noticed that, and accept it - however, every other engine releases it when its done playing something... |
| 01:42.23 | error403 | well, xine engine does anyway |
| 01:42.29 | Dasnipa` | space /mnt/floppy rather |
| 01:42.33 | stochastic | cheal, I click on the floppy folder in konqueror and it's empty when I know there's info on the disk |
| 01:42.38 | cheal | error403: arts has a timeout. by default 1 minute |
| 01:43.16 | cheal | stochastic: try $ ls /media/floppy; on the command line |
| 01:43.43 | cheal | error403: artsshell suspend lets you speed up the release |
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| 01:44.17 | stochastic | cheal, I get no such file or directory error |
| 01:44.38 | stochastic | cheal and when I do it to /floppy it lists nothing |
| 01:44.39 | cheal | stochastic: try $ mount /media/floppy; |
| 01:45.21 | stochastic | cheal it can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 01:46.23 | cheal | stochastic: what does $ grep floppy /etc/fstab; return? |
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| 01:47.46 | stochastic | cheal: /dev/fd0 /floppy auto user,noauto 0 0 |
| 01:48.36 | cheal | stochastic: I'm curious, what release do you use? |
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| 01:48.59 | stochastic | cheal I'm pretty sure its sarge |
| 01:49.10 | stochastic | cheal but I forget |
| 01:49.42 | cheal | stochastic: ok, so $ ls /floppy; returns nothing? |
| 01:50.03 | stochastic | cheal, that's correct |
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| 01:50.22 | cheal | stochastic: did you try $ mout /floppy; ? |
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| 01:50.32 | cheal | s/mout/mount |
| 01:50.58 | sussudio | in soviet russia, floppy mounts you |
| 01:51.03 | stochastic | yeah and it puts my cursor down onto the next line but does not give me a prompt to type at |
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| 01:51.51 | cheal | stochastic: cancel that and type "mount /floppy" |
| 01:51.58 | mfrisch | sussudio ;-) |
| 01:52.08 | sussudio | mfrisch: http://www.rabbit.org/graphics/fun/netbunnies/floppy-isabelle1.jpg < that floppy, to be exact. |
| 01:52.38 | stochastic | cheal isnt' that what you just asked me to type? |
| 01:52.56 | cheal | stochastic: yes, but I thought it would work. |
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| 01:53.55 | cheal | stochastic: try $ mount /dev/fd0 /floppy/; then |
| 01:54.08 | mfrisch | sussudio thats a lot os bunny |
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| 01:55.12 | stochastic | cheal the same thing happens |
| 01:55.20 | lukego | I'm having trouble compiling a recent kernel for my Debian 3.1 machine (which I have not dist-upgrade'd for perhaps six months). The kernel fails to compile with 'drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:33:19: gamma.h: No such file or directory' followed by a long string of seemingly related errors. any advice? |
| 01:55.23 | Fixion | my sound works in gnome, yet it says "no voulme control elements and/or devices found", I couldn't find a solution via google, anyone know whats wrong? |
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| 01:56.02 | lukego | this is with kernels 2.6.11.9 and 2.6.13.4. the last kernel that I successfully built was 2.6.9 |
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| 01:56.34 | cheal | stochastic: hum, I don't understand |
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| 01:57.19 | cheal | lukego: are you trying to compile from debian sources? |
| 01:57.24 | stochastic | cheal everytime I type that it seems to freeze my terminal window, I'm unable to use the ctrl+C command to cancel the last operation |
| 01:57.53 | cheal | stochastic: ah, that's not what I thought happenedreally? |
| 01:57.57 | cheal | hehe |
| 01:58.03 | lukego | cheal: no, kernel.org. I didn't see a debian testing package for 2.6.11+ |
| 01:58.15 | cheal | lukego: there linux-source-2.6.12 |
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| 01:58.49 | stochastic | cheal, yeah the cursor is on the next line down but it does not give me any prompt ( $ or # ), it's as if it's still working on completing the task |
| 01:58.56 | cheal | stochastic: is your floppy drive working when it does that? |
| 01:59.02 | stochastic | cheal no |
| 01:59.21 | liran_ | can anyone guess where tc (traffic shaper) is keeping (if at all) it's setup? like in /proc |
| 01:59.43 | ice_1963 | hi is there some one in here that's runing sid and has gnome installed and has a volume control Error how can i fix it pl |
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| 02:00.04 | kyu | I just changed the cpu fan on my machine and i must have missed something when i plugged the powersupply back in because now my ps/2 keyboard doesn't work (It lights up during boot and when i plug it in while the machine is running) can anyone think of a reason for this? Did i miss a plug somewhere on the mainboard? |
| 02:00.19 | kyu | I can't access the bios |
| 02:00.27 | cheal | stochastic: is there something in your syslog (/var/log/messages)? |
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| 02:00.59 | Phoenix92x | hi, I'm having trouble getting VNC to work correctly on my machine which is using a 2.6 kernel, I can connect, but only to gnome it seems (I have GDE and KDE on the system) but I can't change the resolution, I want to just be able to connect to KDE, can someone please help me? |
| 02:01.14 | lukego | cheal: on 'testing' the latest kernel source I see is 2.6.8 |
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| 02:02.00 | cheal | Phoenix92x: that looks like two problems at once. resolution and gnome->KDE? |
| 02:02.15 | stochastic | cheal it says device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive |
| 02:02.36 | cheal | lukego: you don't see a linux-source-2.6.12 package? |
| 02:03.01 | cheal | stochastic: that's at the bottom of /var/log/messages? |
| 02:03.18 | Phoenix92x | cheal: Im really not sure about it, because I can change rez on the machine itself when Im in gnome, just not while under VNC |
| 02:03.26 | cheal | Phoenix92x: FYI, "GDE" is just gnome |
| 02:03.38 | Phoenix92x | cheal: righto |
| 02:03.43 | stochastic | cheal thats at the top |
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| 02:04.50 | cheal | stochastic: at the top? does the message duplicate if you retry to mount? |
| 02:04.57 | Phoenix92x | cheal: what should I do? |
| 02:05.08 | stochastic | cheal yeah |
| 02:05.42 | cheal | Phoenix92x: changing the resolution in gnome from remote will change the target machine's resolution, not the one on your VNC client |
| 02:06.42 | cheal | Phoenix92x: if you're trying to change the resolution of your VNC client you must do it with the software on that client |
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| 02:07.30 | cheal | stochastic: if you're sure there's a disc in the drive ;) I'd suggest to google it, unless someone else steps in |
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| 02:07.39 | Any_Key | just fetch a kernel source from unstable or experimental |
| 02:07.54 | Phoenix92x | Cheal: Im using RealVNC for it |
| 02:08.29 | Phoenix92x | Cheal: back on my first install it connected to KDE automatically instead of Gnome and it took my current res, 1280*1024 |
| 02:08.38 | cheal | Phoenix92x: the VNC client software doesn't really matter, it's the OS on that client |
| 02:08.46 | Phoenix92x | now it defaults to Gnome at 640*480 |
| 02:08.50 | Phoenix92x | its the same OS on the client |
| 02:08.53 | Phoenix92x | the exact same |
| 02:08.59 | Phoenix92x | *confused* |
| 02:09.01 | cheal | I think some clients offer to adjust the resolution though |
| 02:09.15 | Phoenix92x | well I want it to connect to KDE |
| 02:09.19 | Phoenix92x | is that possible? |
| 02:09.29 | cheal | Phoenix92x: krfb is a KDE VNC server |
| 02:09.50 | Phoenix92x | I really dont understand how to do anything |
| 02:09.56 | Phoenix92x | like that |
| 02:09.59 | Phoenix92x | I kinda need some help.. |
| 02:10.02 | Phoenix92x | Im using the app vncserver |
| 02:10.11 | sussudio | !tell Phoenix92x about enter |
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| 02:10.39 | cheal | Phoenix92x: krfb is a different one than vncserver. IMO it's simpler if you only use/want VNC for KDE |
| 02:10.41 | Phoenix92x | ahhh...um...sorry about that. Didnt think about that. I'm so used to IMs, heh |
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| 02:10.55 | Phoenix92x | Cheal: could you please help me configure/use krfb? |
| 02:10.59 | Phoenix92x | and can a windows machine connect to it? |
| 02:11.18 | cheal | Phoenix92x: install the package with that name and run that command from the server |
| 02:11.24 | cheal | Phoenix92x: yes |
| 02:12.50 | Phoenix92x | cheal: allright, one moment |
| 02:13.30 | Phoenix92x | krfb: cannot connect to X server |
| 02:13.40 | cheal | Phoenix92x: run it as a user |
| 02:13.43 | Phoenix92x | k |
| 02:13.46 | cheal | ...other than root |
| 02:13.58 | Phoenix92x | krfb: cannot connect to X server |
| 02:14.01 | Phoenix92x | same thing |
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| 02:14.29 | cheal | Phoenix92x: where exactly are you typing that? |
| 02:14.52 | Phoenix92x | into the command prompt |
| 02:15.15 | Phoenix92x | as a user |
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| 02:15.27 | Phoenix92x | but Im guessing it would be in my $PATH |
| 02:15.37 | Phoenix92x | is there someplace I should run it from? |
| 02:15.42 | cheal | but in which shell? a shell on the target machine, as user, while X is started? |
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| 02:15.57 | cheal | it's not a problem of locating the command |
| 02:15.57 | Phoenix92x | Im sshed in |
| 02:16.07 | Phoenix92x | and x is definitely started |
| 02:16.11 | Guerin | while that user has authority to connect to an x server |
| 02:16.11 | Phoenix92x | on the machine |
| 02:16.13 | cheal | ssh won't do unless you set X forwarding |
| 02:16.25 | Phoenix92x | ahhh so I need to do it at the actual box |
| 02:16.28 | Phoenix92x | one second |
| 02:16.31 | cheal | krfb will launch a GUI |
| 02:16.32 | Guerin | Phoenix92x: ok, you need to have an x server running as your user on the machine that you're sshing from |
| 02:17.01 | cheal | Phoenix92x: you could ask run it by VNC while using your other VNC server |
| 02:17.16 | cheal | s/ask run/run |
| 02:17.20 | Phoenix92x | cheal: ok it started on the target machine, how do I configure it? |
| 02:17.26 | Phoenix92x | and what does s/ask run/run mean? |
| 02:17.52 | cheal | Phoenix92x: it means I meant just "run" and not "ask run" |
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| 02:18.04 | cheal | "you could run it by VNC while using your other VNC serve" |
| 02:18.24 | cheal | Phoenix92x: try to figure out how to configure it |
| 02:18.58 | Phoenix92x | cheal: what do you mean I could run it by VNC while using my other VNC server? with "it" being krfb? |
| 02:19.11 | Phoenix92x | can i connect to krfb using RealVNC or do I need a different client? |
| 02:19.13 | cheal | Phoenix92x: yes |
| 02:19.28 | cheal | no any VNC client *should* connect to any VNC server |
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| 02:20.04 | Phoenix92x | cheal: ok thanks, trying it |
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| 02:20.53 | Phoenix92x | it keeps saying "the connection closed unexpectedly, do you want to try to reconnect?" |
| 02:20.59 | Phoenix92x | it wpont even let me get to a point where it asks for passwords |
| 02:21.29 | Phoenix92x | never mind, figured it out, sorry |
| 02:22.16 | cddesjar | do you guys know a better a file manager for xfce4 than xffm? |
| 02:22.19 | cddesjar | xffm sucks |
| 02:22.53 | dondelelcaro | just use a shell... |
| 02:23.23 | cheal | hehe. one of the worst geeks I know that uses fluxbox uses konqueror sometimes |
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| 02:23.35 | cddesjar | konqueror...blah |
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| 02:24.31 | cddesjar | what does gnome use again? |
| 02:24.37 | cheal | nautilus |
| 02:25.04 | cddesjar | yes |
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| 02:26.46 | Guerin | nautilus on xfce is a waste of time |
| 02:26.56 | Guerin | you might as well run gnome once you start nautilus up |
| 02:27.18 | Guerin | use mc, or gentoo |
| 02:27.35 | mfrisch | endeavor |
| 02:28.07 | Guerin | endeavor? |
| 02:28.33 | mfrisch | Guerin give me a sec...I think thats what its called\ |
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| 02:28.55 | Guerin | mfrisch: couldn't find it, hence my confusion |
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| 02:29.31 | mfrisch | ii endeavour2 2.5.2-1 file and disk management suite |
| 02:29.52 | Guerin | ah, it's spelt right! |
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| 02:30.14 | mfrisch | Guerin its cool |
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| 02:30.17 | abrotman | xfe |
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| 02:31.19 | huhcool | I can't get my sound working on my IBM Thinkpad 390E. It has an ESS Solo soundcard, and its apparently compatible with the SBPro. I added the esssolo1 module. When I try to play an mp3, it comes out really quiet and garbled up/unrecognizable. Any ideas whats wrong? |
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| 02:32.10 | mfrisch | huhcool check mixer? |
| 02:32.55 | kuroaisu | Why in the world would there be no k3b package for testing, when one exists for stable and one for unstable? http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=k3b |
| 02:33.11 | dbw | kuroaisu: this is often true |
| 02:33.13 | abrotman | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 02:33.14 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
| 02:33.18 | abrotman | because kde is all messed up |
| 02:33.30 | cheal | kuroaisu: that would be because it was removed from testing due to some serious bug |
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| 02:34.22 | kuroaisu | well, nice to know.. (I'm kind of amazed by !why is k3b not in testing having a useful answer) |
| 02:34.59 | zero___ | I went through almost every imwheel howto, and I still can't get my wheel to work :(. imwheel is running, I installed xmodmap, and xorg.conf is configured. I have an intellimouse explorer (5 buttons + wheel). Can anyone help me? |
| 02:35.00 | abrotman | imagine that .. we're useful :) |
| 02:35.13 | kuroaisu | how painful is it to dist-upgrade from testing to unstable? |
| 02:35.23 | cheal | !iyhtays |
| 02:35.23 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 02:35.32 | kuroaisu | heh |
| 02:35.37 | abrotman | it's not a joke |
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| 02:36.48 | ezrafree | hello |
| 02:36.53 | kuroaisu | seriously, what could I expect? |
| 02:37.10 | kuroaisu | I'm down with fixing some things.. but I'd hate to start from scratch |
| 02:37.11 | cheal | kuroaisu: breakage |
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| 02:37.23 | grirgz | hi |
| 02:37.26 | abrotman | cheal: in case you've not noticed .. testing is broken :) |
| 02:37.54 | cheal | abrotman: I'm not noticing that too much...but enough to stay away from unstable |
| 02:38.24 | cheal | abrotman: what do you run on your main desktop(s)? |
| 02:38.28 | abrotman | testing :) |
| 02:38.30 | jair | how do I check the last message sent to me? |
| 02:38.31 | abrotman | but i run gnome .. |
| 02:38.35 | sanxiyn | I run unstable. :-) |
| 02:38.36 | abrotman | jair: /lastlog jair |
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| 02:38.48 | abrotman | cheal: but i run gnome .. |
| 02:38.48 | jair | abrotman, as always ;) thank you |
| 02:38.52 | zero___ | anyone know how to get a scroll wheel to work? |
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| 02:39.01 | sanxiyn | zero___: It just works for me. |
| 02:39.12 | ezrafree | zero___: what kind? |
| 02:39.24 | zero___ | M$ intellimouse explorer 4.0 |
| 02:39.26 | cheal | abrotman: KDE's state in testing is not that bad. there's k3b, kdevelop, basically |
| 02:39.27 | zero___ | I think |
| 02:39.33 | sanxiyn | zero___: Should work out of the box. |
| 02:39.52 | zero___ | whats "out of the box" for you? |
| 02:39.53 | dli | any simple router setup howto? |
| 02:39.59 | abrotman | cheal: kde is always broken |
| 02:40.03 | grirgz | is http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/ equivalent to http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/ ? |
| 02:40.04 | abrotman | dli: lartc.org |
| 02:40.14 | ezrafree | does anyone know why i'd be getting an error when trying to use SSLEnable in apache's httpd.conf? |
| 02:40.15 | dli | abrotman, thanks |
| 02:40.25 | zero___ | it won't work for me :-/ I've been trying to get it to work for a couple days now |
| 02:40.57 | abrotman | zero___: did you define axys 4 and 5 ? |
| 02:41.00 | abrotman | err axis |
| 02:41.01 | abrotman | stupid job |
| 02:41.09 | Guerin | ezrafree: it's common to get errors when you don't configure things properly |
| 02:41.21 | zero___ | abrotman: 6 and 7, should it be 4 and 5? |
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| 02:41.31 | abrotman | zero___: how many damn buttons do you have ? |
| 02:41.39 | zero___ | abrotman: 5 + the scroll wheel |
| 02:42.00 | abrotman | !wheel mouse |
| 02:42.00 | dpkg | mouse wheel is probably at http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/, or http://www.horns.freeserve.co.uk/wheel_a.jpg |
| 02:42.06 | cheal | grirgz: not really |
| 02:42.09 | abrotman | !tell zero___ about listkeys wheel |
| 02:42.10 | cheal | !wayttd grirgz |
| 02:42.11 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, grirgz? |
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| 02:42.55 | dli | abrotman, I only need a simple ipmasq to give public net access to my LAN |
| 02:43.03 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 02:43.03 | dpkg | IP masquerading allows several machines to share one Internet connection. Learn about it at http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-ip-masq.html or don't mix the slink ipmasq deb and a 2.2.x kernel, or available at ipmasq.cjb.net, or ipmasq package is evil, before coming here to ask help with unexpected network problems, first remove it! See also: masq |
| 02:43.34 | sanxiyn | "don't mix the slink ipmasq deb and a 2.2.x kernel" |
| 02:43.44 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:43.57 | grirgz | cheal: i am wondering to which distribution correspond the pkgs in pool |
| 02:44.00 | jair | it is defenitely better have wap encryption than the old wep right? |
| 02:44.06 | Guerin | sanxiyn: that advice is all the more true nowadays |
| 02:44.09 | cheal | grirgz: all |
| 02:44.10 | abrotman | !wep |
| 02:44.11 | dpkg | well, wep is the utterly useless level of encryption that 802.11b uses. it claims to provide 'wired equivalent privacy', but it's as secure as rot13. |
| 02:44.43 | jair | !wap |
| 02:44.43 | dpkg | hmm... wap is a waste of time, or wap porn sucks as well |
| 02:44.49 | abrotman | !fwap |
| 02:45.13 | grirgz | cheal: ok, thanks :) |
| 02:47.01 | mfrisch | jair vpn. |
| 02:47.30 | abrotman | that doesn't make sense |
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| 02:48.40 | abrotman | this should be cute |
| 02:48.53 | Guerin | childabuse: change your nick |
| 02:49.04 | FlimFlamMan | is it possible to get amanda to estimate the size of a backup before running? |
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| 02:49.38 | abrotman | like with du ? |
| 02:49.46 | sussudio | badger |
| 02:50.22 | abrotman | wolverine ? |
| 02:50.40 | sussudio | abrotman: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/badgers.mp3 |
| 02:50.50 | FlimFlamMan | can du take into account backup levels? |
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| 02:51.26 | dli | FlimFlamMan, du only counts the total disk size, I think |
| 02:51.37 | FlimFlamMan | ok |
| 02:52.25 | dli | FlimFlamMan, I don't know what amanda is. I only use rsync to backup |
| 02:52.46 | abrotman | sussudio: i like that song |
| 02:53.07 | sussudio | badgerbadgerbadgerbadger |
| 02:53.10 | Piggy | mushroom mushroom |
| 02:53.14 | mfrisch | s-ss-sudio |
| 02:53.51 | sanxiyn | !badgersmite sussudio |
| 02:53.54 | dli | blinking dell battery led :( don't want to spend on another battery |
| 02:54.08 | abrotman | don't buy dell^Wcrap |
| 02:54.20 | dli | abrotman, which one to go? |
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| 02:54.34 | abrotman | dell is a synonym for crap |
| 02:55.03 | dli | abrotman, I use a marker to dark the led at the time being :( |
| 02:55.20 | sussudio | abrotman: laptops are just crap |
| 02:55.25 | abrotman | i'd just throw the dell off a bridge |
| 02:55.32 | abrotman | sussudio: i like mine .. not a problem |
| 02:55.39 | Guerin | abrotman: I'd sell it to someone unsuspecting |
| 02:55.45 | sussudio | abrotman: must not be a recent laptop then |
| 02:55.46 | abrotman | Guerin: like a windows user |
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| 02:55.49 | jair | abrotman, haha I am ordering just IBM desktops and laptops, but I would like to be able of build the laptops as well. the desktops, personally i build it myself. |
| 02:55.54 | Guerin | abrotman: more or less |
| 02:55.59 | abrotman | sussudio: 2 year old thinkpad |
| 02:56.12 | jair | mfrisch, not what we were looking for is the wap wireless encryption. |
| 02:56.13 | dli | jair, building laptop is tricky :( |
| 02:56.15 | kuroaisu | so, since I can't use k3b, can anyone reccomend a good cd burning gui? |
| 02:56.19 | abrotman | maybe 2 .. hrm .. P4 2.4 .. however old that is :) |
| 02:56.21 | jair | dli, yes |
| 02:56.25 | dondelelcaro | usually thinkpads and ti powerbooks seem to hold up well. |
| 02:56.32 | abrotman | kuroaisu: for kde or in general? |
| 02:56.32 | dli | jair: I couldn't get some screws tight enough :( |
| 02:56.35 | jair | Today is Friday thank god |
| 02:56.42 | dondelelcaro | my G4 400MHz is still chugging along fine |
| 02:56.42 | abrotman | kuroaisu: will arson install ? |
| 02:56.45 | jair | haha |
| 02:56.57 | kuroaisu | abrotman: kde would be nice.. but I'm willing to try anything good. |
| 02:56.59 | mfrisch | jair a vpn can secure a wireless connection |
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| 02:57.11 | dli | jair, for desktop, I don't even bother to put on all screws |
| 02:57.12 | jair | in the near future we hope to see some people starting making cases for laptops |
| 02:57.18 | abrotman | mfrisch: to the WAP ? .. your linksys router has vpn ? |
| 02:57.30 | dli | jair, www.abspc.com |
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| 02:57.47 | kuroaisu | abrotman: arson? E: Couldn't find package arson |
| 02:57.49 | jair | mfrisch, yes, but I am talking about wep vs wap |
| 02:57.53 | Gasster2015 | hola |
| 02:58.07 | abrotman | !info arson |
| 02:58.09 | dpkg | arson: (KDE frontend for burning CDs), section otherosfs, is extra. Version: 0.9.8beta2-4.1 (sid), Packaged size: 516 kB, Installed size: 1720 kB |
| 02:58.16 | abrotman | kuroaisu: not in testing i guess :) |
| 02:58.18 | mfrisch | jair and they are both useless. |
| 02:58.21 | Gasster2015 | alguien tuvo algun problema para instalar guadalinex 2004 en un portatil acer? |
| 02:58.22 | abrotman | kuroaisu: i used to use eroaster .. |
| 02:58.29 | abrotman | !pt |
| 02:58.29 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:58.33 | jair | ohhh mfrisch I see |
| 02:58.44 | Guerin | why is there another kde burning app? |
| 02:58.49 | Guerin | what can k3b not do? |
| 02:58.49 | jair | mfrisch, what vpn do you recomend openvpn? |
| 02:59.04 | abrotman | Guerin: it cannot be installed in testing :) |
| 02:59.07 | kuroaisu | Guerin: exist peacefully in testing at this point in time |
| 02:59.19 | Guerin | !info arson etch |
| 02:59.28 | abrotman | !why is arson not in testing |
| 02:59.28 | Guerin | seems to have the same problem |
| 02:59.29 | dpkg | arson is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=arson |
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| 02:59.37 | abrotman | kde has problems :) |
| 02:59.45 | jair | nice I see |
| 03:00.00 | mfrisch | jair there are many, it depends on size of the network, you want a ipsec vpn, that I know. |
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| 03:00.12 | sanxiyn | abrotman: Too bad. |
| 03:00.17 | abrotman | for what ? |
| 03:00.30 | sanxiyn | That kde has problems. |
| 03:00.34 | abrotman | doesn't bother me |
| 03:00.41 | sanxiyn | Oh well. |
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| 03:00.42 | sussudio | badgers.mp3 on repeat gets better after about 15 mins |
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| 03:01.09 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: is that because you stop actually hearing it then? |
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| 03:01.18 | sanxiyn | Will Debian have "slot" support a la Gentoo? |
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| 03:01.26 | abrotman | !slot |
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| 03:01.33 | dondelelcaro | sanxiyn: wth is "slot" support? |
| 03:01.36 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: yeah... like a state of zen |
| 03:02.14 | sanxiyn | dondelelcaro: Installing multiple versions of packages. |
| 03:02.18 | Chamita_ | mfrisch, cool |
| 03:02.35 | dondelelcaro | sanxiyn: uh, that'll never be supported. When it's reasonable to do, we have multiple packages. See libraries, FE> |
| 03:02.50 | sanxiyn | Like libdb*, I see. |
| 03:02.56 | Chamita_ | mfrisch, so then ipsec is good for a size organization of #? |
| 03:03.02 | abrotman | sanxiyn: some have that .. afaik .. you can install pgsql 7.x and 8.x in debian together |
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| 03:03.23 | jair | hahah |
| 03:03.36 | jair | mfrisch, sorry i was disconected |
| 03:03.55 | sanxiyn | abrotman: Oh, didn't know that. Can't have MySQL 4 and 5 though. |
| 03:04.05 | abrotman | sanxiyn: who would want to ? |
| 03:04.29 | grirgz | bye |
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| 03:04.33 | sanxiyn | abrotman: Not me. |
| 03:04.36 | dondelelcaro | sanxiyn: that's because the package maintainer has decided that it's not worth the effort to have two mysqls. |
| 03:04.42 | mfrisch | jair ipsec is a authentication scheme, openswan uses it but has a kernel module. |
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| 03:04.48 | Roey | hello |
| 03:05.01 | abrotman | noone home! |
| 03:05.01 | Roey | grepper: heya |
| 03:06.23 | Roey | I'd like to start booting from stock Debian kernel. I have XFS on / and /home, ext3fs on /boot, and all my partitions are on software-raid1. Also, the disks are SATA. Do I have to put anything speical into the rdinit image for Debian to be able to boot off this setup? |
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| 03:06.44 | Roey | Faithful: hello |
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| 03:07.44 | dondelelcaro | Roey: you just need to make sure that the md, xfs, and sata modules needed to mount / are in the initrd. |
| 03:07.55 | dondelelcaro | Roey: assuming you've used /etc/modules properly, that should end up being the case. |
| 03:08.19 | Roey | dondelelcaro: last time I did this, it severely messed up my partition names |
| 03:08.34 | Roey | somehow, my partition names (/dev/md1, /dev/md2, /dev/md0) all got shuffled |
| 03:09.06 | Roey | dondelelcaro: what I'm thinking of doing is just to buy a raid card (like, say, an Escalade) and get rid of the need for sw raid completely |
| 03:09.09 | Roey | that should simplify things I think |
| 03:09.19 | Roey | if Linux sees just one single disk. |
| 03:09.24 | Roey | and scsi at that. |
| 03:09.37 | Roey | and I assume that Linux is built (in Debian) with the scsi drivers internally |
| 03:09.44 | dondelelcaro | Roey: uh, you did write the raid superblock out, right? |
| 03:09.51 | dli | Roey, what's the price to get a hw-raid for 8-sata disks? |
| 03:09.53 | Roey | dondelelcaro: when? |
| 03:10.02 | dondelelcaro | Roey: when you created the raid array. |
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| 03:10.11 | abrotman | dli: not cheap .. |
| 03:10.12 | Roey | dli: oh I don't know -- I'd check Pricewatch for an 8-way escalade. |
| 03:10.14 | Roey | abrotman: heya |
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| 03:10.22 | abrotman | dli: adaptec and 3ware make them |
| 03:10.24 | dondelelcaro | dli: they're probably on the order of $500 or so |
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| 03:10.31 | Roey | dli: just the 4-way 95xx series costs... more than $300 |
| 03:10.51 | dli | abrotman, dondelelcaro thanks |
| 03:10.52 | Roey | dondelelcaro: that's ata or sata? |
| 03:10.54 | abrotman | i'd guess more than 500 |
| 03:11.21 | Roey | dondelelcaro: is there that much a difference between 4-way 7xxx and 95xx? |
| 03:11.23 | dli | dondelelcaro, I have a 4-way 7xxx here, but it's software raid |
| 03:11.33 | guorke | dose bzip2 can not compress directorys? |
| 03:11.34 | Roey | h |
| 03:11.34 | Roey | ah |
| 03:11.38 | abrotman | dli: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=572182 .. just a cursory glance .. make sure it's what you're actually looking for |
| 03:11.44 | dondelelcaro | Roey: they're just newer |
| 03:12.00 | Roey | dondelelcaro: I assume I wrote out the superblock when I created the md devices; otherwise, how would I be able to boot off of them? |
| 03:12.18 | dondelelcaro | Roey: then they should specify which md device they're at... |
| 03:12.26 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, that's what I remember being the case) |
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| 03:12.51 | dondelelcaro | Roey: if so, it shouldn't matter whether you've got md compiled into the kernel or as a module. |
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| 03:13.07 | Roey | dondelelcaro: btw, the 95xx series offers hotswap |
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| 03:13.36 | Roey | dondelelcaro: also, I've had issues with grub+xfs on / + md before -- can I use lilo? |
| 03:13.55 | Roey | dondelelcaro: how would I go about this anyhow? |
| 03:13.58 | try_catch_this | ummm how do you change the default boot partition in grub? |
| 03:14.04 | Roey | (the reason I want to do this is because I want to install the nvidia drivers) |
| 03:14.13 | try_catch_this | I can do it in lilo but gurb a bit tricky |
| 03:14.52 | Roey | somewhre it says boot (0,0) |
| 03:14.55 | Roey | or somethng like that |
| 03:14.58 | Roey | in /boot/grub/menus.lst |
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| 03:15.47 | dondelelcaro | try_catch_this: root? or where /boot is? |
| 03:16.17 | try_catch_this | I want windows to boot first, i only want to go into linux if I say so |
| 03:16.18 | dli | try_catch_this, why not remove menu.lst, and let update-grub to do it for you? |
| 03:16.31 | try_catch_this | I want to change it to make win the defaut |
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| 03:20.02 | dli | psad sends too many alert emails :( |
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| 03:20.13 | Drakh | :[ |
| 03:20.30 | Knoppix_ | hi |
| 03:20.34 | dli | is psad just buggy? |
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| 03:21.46 | Roey | dondelelcaro: hi again |
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| 03:22.17 | Roey | dondelelcaro: where do I start if I want to start booting off a debian-amd64 kernel? |
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| 03:22.28 | dondelelcaro | Roey: start with /topic #debian-amd64 |
| 03:22.45 | Knoppix_ | i have a problem with debootstrap: i am on a knoppix live cd, and i want to install debian. I have folowed all the steps with debootstrap but when i tell it to get the last debian version i have always the same error : couldn't download console-tools-libs. This file isnt on the server so i dont know what to do.. i cant finish the installation :'( |
| 03:22.49 | Roey | dondelelcaro: ok fine. |
| 03:22.54 | Roey | dondelelcaro: thanks though |
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| 03:24.16 | abrotman | Roey: pure64 or 32bit ? |
| 03:24.19 | Roey | pure64. |
| 03:24.25 | abrotman | yep . #debian-amd64 |
| 03:24.27 | Roey | the whole system is running in 64-bit mode. |
| 03:24.35 | Roey | abrotman: so I shoudl take the booting issue there? ok then. |
| 03:24.43 | Roey | no one seems to be home. |
| 03:24.52 | abrotman | they sleep sometimes |
| 03:24.54 | dondelelcaro | Roey: well, you can ask them here, but their /topic has all of the information on getting started with booting. |
| 03:25.05 | dondelelcaro | (which is what I thought you were asking about) |
| 03:25.10 | Roey | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 03:25.27 | Roey | dondelelcaro: but I'm assuming I'll have problems with the fact that /boot is on an md device |
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| 03:25.30 | dondelelcaro | specifically http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/ and https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html |
| 03:25.34 | Roey | dondelelcaro: and that / is xfs |
| 03:25.40 | Roey | ah thank you |
| 03:25.49 | dondelelcaro | Roey: problems with what? the installer supports xfs and md |
| 03:26.00 | dondelelcaro | (and the kernels do too...) |
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| 03:29.55 | abrotman | bah .. baseball is over... |
| 03:30.00 | Roey | dondelelcaro: is there a way I can convert my /existing/ system to boot off a stock debian kernel? |
| 03:30.03 | Roey | I don't want to reinstall here |
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| 03:30.18 | Roey | dondelelcaro: (again, the only reason I'm doing this is to be able to isntall the nvidia debian packages) |
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| 03:31.27 | bcc | what can i do if my .openalrc seems to be ignored? |
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| 03:39.23 | abrotman | !moo |
| 03:39.23 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 03:39.50 | lofdev | anyone on the gnome dev team here tonight? |
| 03:39.52 | dli | good figure packages? like grace and gnuplot |
| 03:40.06 | abrotman | dli: card no good ? |
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| 03:40.10 | abrotman | lofdev: why ? |
| 03:40.17 | abrotman | and no .. i'm not a gnome dev |
| 03:40.28 | scanwinder | when i boot into a console, the text dosent take up the whole screen...so theres a big black border around stuff......and changing the resolution dosent make it take up more space just makes writing smaller in the same space............how do i get it to take up more screen area? |
| 03:40.34 | lofdev | want info about gnome-menus-2.12-1 |
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| 03:40.45 | abrotman | lofdev: did you install menu-xdg ? |
| 03:40.46 | dli | abrotman, what's card? |
| 03:40.52 | abrotman | dli: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=572182 .. just a cursory glance .. make sure it's what you're actually looking for |
| 03:41.01 | lofdev | abrotman: what's menu-xdg? |
| 03:41.08 | abrotman | !info menu-xdg |
| 03:41.13 | dpkg | menu-xdg: (freedesktop.org menu compliant window manager scripts), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.2.1 (sid), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 72 kB |
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| 03:41.26 | akusarujin | does gstreamer require anything special to work in sarge? rhythmbox is complaining with "Could not create audio output element; check your settings" even when xmms works fine with alsa.. |
| 03:41.44 | dli | abrotman, not really, I'm thinking about 4 TB raid-5 |
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| 03:41.49 | gozz | is there somone here that uses k3b and could tell me how to burn cds at full speed? i can burn a dvd at full speed but not cds |
| 03:41.56 | abrotman | dli: that's an 8 port card .. that's what you asked for :) |
| 03:42.14 | lofdev | abrotman: wasn't planning on it. just trying to free myself of python, and there is (IMHO) a superfluous dependency in the gnome-menus package? |
| 03:42.32 | abrotman | lofdev: they probably use python to create them |
| 03:42.37 | woodland | hi i have question abt increasing volume of totem player, i cant increase it as much as in windows |
| 03:42.42 | lofdev | abrotman: exactly... |
| 03:42.50 | abrotman | why would you want to free yourself of python ? |
| 03:42.59 | dli | abrotman, it's hardware? |
| 03:43.03 | abrotman | dli: yes .. |
| 03:43.05 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 03:43.05 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html , or http://linux.yyz.us/sata/ |
| 03:43.11 | gozz | my burner supports 48x and it only burns at 10x at peek |
| 03:43.17 | dli | abrotman, sounds good :) |
| 03:43.32 | lofdev | abrotman: have a love of compiled code |
| 03:43.37 | stew | i love python |
| 03:43.41 | abrotman | dli: that first link will show which are hardware .. but adaptec and 3ware make them .. not surewho else |
| 03:43.43 | stew | it compiles |
| 03:43.49 | lexiyntax | gozz: Are you using 48x CD-Rs? |
| 03:43.53 | stew | 3ware rocks |
| 03:43.55 | dli | abrotman, I need to install one 4 TB soon, (wasn't ordered by me), anything special about installing sarge on it? |
| 03:43.56 | abrotman | lofdev: #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
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| 03:44.02 | gozz | 52x cdrs |
| 03:44.06 | stew | dli: use lvm |
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| 03:44.42 | woodland | abrotman, hi |
| 03:44.43 | dli | stew: in expert mode? |
| 03:44.47 | abrotman | hi |
| 03:44.56 | lofdev | abrotman: thx |
| 03:44.58 | stew | don't ask me /me is no exper |
| 03:44.59 | stew | t |
| 03:45.06 | dli | stew: okay:) |
| 03:45.09 | woodland | abrotman, can you tell me if you can listen to http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/1q3m_BZ9C9.As1NMvHdW/ |
| 03:45.25 | dli | stew: thanks, time for dinner (almost breakfast |
| 03:45.33 | Roey | abrotman: does linux 2.6.14 change SATA letters back from /dev/sdX to /dev/hdX ? |
| 03:45.38 | scanwinder | is there a command to change the resolution of a console? |
| 03:45.48 | stew | dli: if you are not sure whether or not you need expert mode you almost definately don't |
| 03:45.49 | abrotman | Roey: probably not |
| 03:45.59 | stew | bleh |
| 03:45.59 | gozz | i even changed the auto speed setting to 48x then 24x to see if it would change and it still was around 10x |
| 03:46.03 | woodland | stew, hi |
| 03:46.05 | stew | hi |
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| 03:46.30 | Roey | abrotman: jeff garzick said it's gonna happen |
| 03:46.31 | sigma957 | gozz: it could be a hardware thing, or a media problem. |
| 03:46.32 | woodland | can you listen to http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/1q3m_BZ9C9.As1NMvHdW/ |
| 03:46.50 | woodland | stew, can you check that link |
| 03:47.04 | abrotman | Roey: then .. ask #kernel |
| 03:47.04 | tct | If I change something in menu.lst |
| 03:47.05 | stew | woodland: no, there is an extremely low chance that is better than what I'm currently listening to |
| 03:47.15 | tct | how do I get grub to update the changes |
| 03:47.21 | woodland | stew, ok |
| 03:47.25 | tct | with lilo I just type lilo |
| 03:47.31 | stew | and it's time for me to head back out to the next bar |
| 03:47.37 | tct | but this thing is so damed unuserfriendly |
| 03:47.43 | dondelelcaro | Roey: why don't you just build a custom kernel and build the nvidia packages against that? |
| 03:47.46 | sigma957 | tct: you don't have to update grub. just reboot and you'll see your new menu.lst |
| 03:47.55 | woodland | stew, i had some problems listening to that link so i wanted you to try |
| 03:48.01 | tct | ok |
| 03:48.03 | dondelelcaro | Roey: but yes, it's fairly simple. Just install the debian kernel, and set up your initrd properly. That's it. |
| 03:48.38 | tct | so how do edit the menu.lst to make windows boot first? |
| 03:48.46 | woodland | abrotman, hi can you do me a favor |
| 03:48.57 | tct | its currently second |
| 03:48.57 | Roey | dondelelcaro: ok. I hoep it won't hack up /etc/lilo.conf too badly |
| 03:49.14 | abrotman | woodland: doesn't work for me .. |
| 03:49.24 | woodland | abrotman, ok |
| 03:49.27 | lexiyntax | gozz: If you go to Settings, Configure K3B..., Devices, what max speed does it say your burner supports? |
| 03:50.27 | woodland | abrotman, i have question abt sound system |
| 03:50.54 | tct | there is a line that says default 0 |
| 03:50.58 | abrotman | ok |
| 03:51.04 | tct | so i can change that to default 1? |
| 03:51.06 | gozz | 48x |
| 03:51.31 | tct | and the second option will boot by default? |
| 03:51.36 | woodland | abrotman, my totem player's voulme is very low even if i make it full, i am using OSS |
| 03:51.56 | dondelelcaro | Roey: it won't change it at all. |
| 03:51.58 | gozz | well just has 48 not the x |
| 03:52.00 | abrotman | woodland: try aumix |
| 03:52.07 | dondelelcaro | Roey: you'll have to make the changes to lilo.conf yourself, and it will just be a single entry anyway. |
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| 03:52.26 | woodland | abrotman, is that better than alsa |
| 03:52.58 | jair | anyone here familiar with the mysql basic stuff on debian? |
| 03:53.01 | abrotman | woodland: it's a volume program |
| 03:53.04 | dondelelcaro | jair: just ask. |
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| 03:53.13 | woodland | !u |
| 03:53.14 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 03:53.39 | jair | when I install mysql in debian the system create three default accounts two roots, and one call: debian-sys-maint |
| 03:53.50 | bogoh5n1 | !g |
| 03:53.50 | dpkg | methinks g is used to indicate a GNU version or GTK version of a program. or the gravitational constant in physics (~9.81 m/s^2 for most places on Earth), or an abbreviation for the ebonic slang word Gangsta, as in "Wassup G?", or abbreviation for giga |
| 03:53.51 | woodland | abrotman, do you use aumix |
| 03:53.56 | jair | but the two roots are insecure with not password. |
| 03:54.18 | dondelelcaro | jair: it asks you at configuration time what the password you want to set is. |
| 03:54.19 | jair | only the debian-sys-maint |
| 03:54.19 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.21 | abrotman | woodland: when i used OSS i did |
| 03:54.32 | woodland | abrotman, ok |
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| 03:54.45 | jair | dondelelcaro, so I can change that password? |
| 03:54.53 | lexiyntax | gozz: Does it burn faster if you burn from an iso image instead of an on-the-fly burn? Perhaps it's determining your system is too slow to do an on-the-fly burn any faster than that. |
| 03:54.54 | dondelelcaro | jair: you don't care what the password is for debian-sys-maint; it's only used to perform automated maintenance tasks on the database. |
| 03:55.01 | dondelelcaro | jair: use mysqladmin and change the root password. |
| 03:55.08 | jair | dondelelcaro, i did not remember that i choose any password. |
| 03:55.32 | Roots | Roots? |
| 03:55.36 | dondelelcaro | jair: because you have your debconf priority set to low, you didn't input one. |
| 03:55.48 | jair | dondelelcaro, ok I have the passwords on the root accounts already secure with the mysql commands in the terminal. |
| 03:55.50 | woodland | how do i search channel with some name in it |
| 03:55.53 | tehuti | is there any easy method of editing a KDE keyboard layout so that I can insert special characters? (ex: em dash [UTF 2014] shortcutted as Alt+Hypen)? |
| 03:56.05 | dondelelcaro | jair: ok... so what is the actual question then? |
| 03:56.09 | jair | dondelelcaro, cool |
| 03:56.10 | gozz | im not sure i burned a dvd iso at full speed but mp3 to audio cds was around 10x |
| 03:56.29 | gozz | i havent tried a cd iso |
| 03:56.32 | abrotman | gozz: it has to reencode those MP3s before burning |
| 03:56.35 | abrotman | and does it on the fly |
| 03:56.43 | jair | dondelelcaro, I think i can change that password using the same command to update or set password for the debian-sys-maint |
| 03:56.43 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:57.07 | gozz | doesnt nero do that to nero burns at full speed |
| 03:57.12 | dondelelcaro | jair: don't change the password for the sys-maint user, it has one set randomly that is kept in a single root-only readable file. |
| 03:57.18 | woodland | does anybody know command to search channels having some name in it |
| 03:57.20 | abrotman | dunno .. i don't use nero |
| 03:57.31 | dondelelcaro | woodland: just /who foonick |
| 03:57.39 | dondelelcaro | woodland: or /whois foonick |
| 03:57.53 | gozz | so its normal? |
| 03:57.55 | jair | dondelelcaro, ohh ok |
| 03:58.03 | jair | dondelelcaro, perfect |
| 03:58.15 | abrotman | gozz: i'm not certain .. but it could be a possible cause |
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| 03:58.36 | Kovecses | !marillatt |
| 03:58.40 | Kovecses | !marillat |
| 03:58.41 | dpkg | well, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 03:59.07 | woodland | dondelelcaro, i am asking about searching channels, becase i dont want to use /list as it gives whole list i dont want to see |
| 03:59.20 | jair | the important thing is that the password in the database mysql -> field debian-sys-maint |
| 03:59.20 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.25 | dondelelcaro | woodland: then /msg chanserv help list |
| 03:59.32 | dondelelcaro | jair: yes. |
| 03:59.47 | jair | dondelelcaro, I will leave it how it is now, later I will change it |
| 03:59.48 | dondelelcaro | jair: and also that /etc/mysql/debian.cnf be 0.0 600. |
| 03:59.48 | P8ntKid | Where is a place that i can read all the commands to file browsing in a terminal? Like using the cd/ls/mkdir commands? |
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| 03:59.52 | gozz | ok well the cd worked fine it was slow but it got the job done i just wondered if i had somthing set wrong |
| 04:00.18 | abrotman | !tell P8ntKid about fundamentals |
| 04:00.19 | dondelelcaro | jair: you shouldn't ever be using that account, so so long as it's set to a hard to guess password, there's no point in modifying it. |
| 04:00.29 | jair | dondelelcaro, I will check that |
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| 04:00.44 | jair | dondelelcaro, ok cool I go it |
| 04:00.53 | jair | dondelelcaro, but I will check that is 600 |
| 04:01.08 | P8ntKid | abrotman: What was that for? |
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| 04:01.30 | abrotman | P8ntKid: for what you just asked about |
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| 04:01.40 | jair | dondelelcaro, -rw------- 1 root root 185 Oct 28 22:18 /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| 04:01.40 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.29 | gozz | abrotman thanks |
| 04:02.51 | abrotman | gozz: another place to ask might be #debian-kde or #kde .. they may know more |
| 04:02.59 | scanwinder | how do i change my console resolution to 800x600? |
| 04:03.19 | dondelelcaro | scanwinder: set vga=ask; or some number that gives 800x600 |
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| 04:03.49 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: it dosent give 800x600 as an option when i do that |
| 04:04.12 | jair | dondelelcaro, it is ok to have the mysql apache and php running on the linux box which is also the firewall (iptables)? |
| 04:04.31 | jair | dondelelcaro, this box have two nics. |
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| 04:04.54 | dondelelcaro | jair: sure, doesn't really matter though. |
| 04:05.06 | dondelelcaro | scanwinder: it should give a whole list of options when you boot with that kernel option. |
| 04:05.29 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: yes but they're all like 80xsomething |
| 04:05.48 | dondelelcaro | scanwinder: yes, because they're columns by rows, which is what you want, unless you're using FB. |
| 04:05.59 | jair | dondelelcaro, and I have the eth0 dhcp but I will convert it in static, and the eth1 is not getting access to the internet ;) |
| 04:06.07 | jair | dondelelcaro, it is just local. |
| 04:06.50 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: it still takes up the same screen space when i change it...........text just gets smaller in the same area |
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| 04:07.12 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: it will only take up part of my screen |
| 04:07.24 | mattpj1 | i need some repositories for my synaptic like the unstable ones and all |
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| 04:07.59 | dondelelcaro | scanwinder: then adjust your monitor so that it fills the whole space; if this is a laptop, use fbdev instead of the vga text modes. |
| 04:08.54 | mattpj1 | can someone help me? |
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| 04:09.12 | ray_ | hey guys why isnt k3b in the repos? |
| 04:09.14 | ray_ | !k3b |
| 04:09.14 | dpkg | somebody said k3b was A sophisticated KDE cd burning application, or k3b.sf.net, or 'teh uber'! |
| 04:09.27 | dondelelcaro | mattpj1: if you need to ask about it, you probably don't want to run unstable. Run apt-setup to set up your sources.list |
| 04:09.31 | dondelelcaro | !info k3b |
| 04:09.34 | dpkg | k3b: (A sophisticated KDE CD burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.12.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 3671 kB, Installed size: 7555 kB |
| 04:09.38 | dondelelcaro | ray_: ^^^. |
| 04:10.01 | ray_ | dondelelcaro, i set up my sources...exactly as a do every time |
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| 04:10.12 | ray_ | dondelelcaro, yet this time no k3b |
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| 04:10.37 | dondelelcaro | ray_: are you using testing, stable, unstable... |
| 04:10.41 | ray_ | so its only is sid? |
| 04:10.43 | waxiewhite | good day Debian brothers!!!!!! |
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| 04:10.55 | ray_ | testing but i have gotten it in testing before |
| 04:11.14 | dondelelcaro | ray_: packages get removed from testing from time to time because they're holding up the propogation of new packages to testing. |
| 04:11.26 | waxiewhite | Can anybody refer me to a Debian wallpaper...which looks like "final fantasy" combined in it...? |
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| 04:11.39 | dondelelcaro | ray_: if that's the case, you can either get an older version of it from when it was in testing (see snapshot.debian.net) or pull one from stable if it will still install. |
| 04:11.59 | ray_ | dondelelcaro, what if i wait a few days |
| 04:12.27 | dondelelcaro | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 04:12.30 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
| 04:12.31 | dondelelcaro | ray_: see above. |
| 04:12.42 | waxiewhite | does Debian has extensive support for Bluetooth? |
| 04:12.53 | dondelelcaro | waxiewhite: if the kernel does, Debian does. |
| 04:13.13 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: what package has fbdev in it? |
| 04:13.21 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: i dont seem to have it already |
| 04:13.32 | waxiewhite | is kernel 2.4 support Bluetooth? |
| 04:13.34 | dondelelcaro | scanwinder: it's a kernel module. |
| 04:13.35 | mattpj1 | i need a source for synaptic the repostitory a unstable debian |
| 04:13.37 | dondelelcaro | waxiewhite: probably not. |
| 04:13.38 | ray_ | dondelelcaro, so that means it will be in in two days? |
| 04:13.52 | dondelelcaro | ray_: no, that's the list of things that needs to be cleared up before it can go in. |
| 04:13.57 | waxiewhite | in my debian sarge, can i use the latest kernel 2.6? |
| 04:14.02 | dondelelcaro | ray_: the time limit is only part of it. |
| 04:14.13 | dondelelcaro | waxiewhite: yes, just apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 or whatever is appropriate. |
| 04:14.14 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: how do i use it then? |
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| 04:14.29 | ray_ | dondelelcaro, i would have thought this would have been a sid issue |
| 04:14.31 | dondelelcaro | scanwinder: you load the fbdev module at boot time |
| 04:14.47 | waxiewhite | Is it stable to use 2.6 for sarge..i mean, sarge came with 2.4...for a reason...?! |
| 04:14.49 | scanwinder | dondelelcaro: how? |
| 04:15.00 | dondelelcaro | scanwinder: run modconf, and load it |
| 04:15.09 | dondelelcaro | waxiewhite: 2.4 was the default, sarge also came with 2.6. |
| 04:15.15 | cheal | waxiewhite: because 2.4 is more stable |
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| 04:15.40 | waxiewhite | what command-line command should i type to verify if i have Bluetooth support? |
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| 04:21.11 | jair | dondelelcaro, Ineed to run this command (echo linuxbox.guruji.com > /etc/hostname "next line" /bin/hostname -F /etc/hostname? to set up my host name or just add the new ip address and the hostname line? |
| 04:21.16 | wookien1 | hi, just settign up samba. Have added user via smbpasswd command, but cant connect rom windows with the user and password entered into the map network drive function. |
| 04:22.02 | dondelelcaro | !hostname |
| 04:22.02 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist |
| 04:22.17 | peterS | wookien1: the place to try and track this down is /var/log/samba/log.smb |
| 04:22.36 | wookien1 | thanks peterS, always foull of the right gen. |
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| 04:23.06 | jair | dondelelcaro, http://pastebin.com/409679 |
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| 04:23.32 | jair | dondelelcaro, it is that correct? |
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| 04:23.54 | woodland | hi, does anybody know channels for movies |
| 04:24.16 | dondelelcaro | jair: yeah, that should work. |
| 04:24.25 | dondelelcaro | jair: you're going to need to edit /etc/hosts too to set the FQDN |
| 04:25.31 | wookien1 | peterS: just a whole bunch of lines saying samba has started,... guess since i am running it from inetd it starts when required. |
| 04:25.44 | jair | dondelelcaro, I did that already something similar than this: ->http://pastebin.com/409681 |
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| 04:26.41 | wookien1 | peterS: is there away to re run setup for the samba server as i turned of some things that maybe needed like encrypted passwords and seperate password files |
| 04:26.42 | peterS | wookien1: I don't recommend running samba from inetd. nmbd in particular doesn't make any sense to run from inetd, but even smbd doesn't really |
| 04:27.15 | peterS | wookienz: you can do 'dpkg-reconfigure samba' but really, just editing /etc/samba/smb.conf is not hard |
| 04:27.43 | wookienz | oh ok.. have had a look there alreay. it does appear that nmbd is running as a daemon alreayd... |
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| 04:28.38 | peterS | wookienz: when nmbd is launched from inetd, I think it just stays running indefinitely. that's the reason it doesn't make sense to use inetd for it. it *has* to be persistent, to do its job. |
| 04:29.10 | wookienz | ok got it running as daemon in the reconfigure. i had added a user using smbpasswd but when i connect from windows it doesnt like the password |
| 04:29.18 | ray_ | what wm are you guys using? |
| 04:29.19 | wookienz | or the username for that matter i guess. |
| 04:29.35 | peterS | wookienz: could be any number of problems. log.smb still doesn't say anything useful about the authentication failure? |
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| 04:31.07 | wookienz | peterS: just getting: [2005/10/29 17:29:11, 0] smbd/server.c:main(798) |
| 04:31.07 | wookienz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.07 | wookienz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.46 | peterS | wookienz: so the client connecting to it doesn't show any trace in the log file? is there a log.WINDOWSMACHINE file present? |
| 04:31.52 | wookienz | there appears to be a log.computername for each ciomputer that has attempted tolog in. but they are blank. |
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| 04:32.42 | peterS | wookienz: well, you can increase the logging level. I forget what the default is, but in /etc/samba/smb.conf you can add 'debug level = 3' or similar. higher numbers mean more verbose output. 10 creates really large logfiles, 100 even larger |
| 04:34.00 | wookienz | ok will have alook. if i smbclient from the server to itself and enter a username and password it connects... just windows it doesnt seem to |
| 04:34.04 | welson | anyone experience with smbfs and /etc/fstab? I'd like to know the minimum so that the user with the rights mounting the share under ~ can provide his password on his own.. |
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| 04:34.49 | _Tufe_ | alguem ae do DF??? |
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| 04:36.28 | eXa_bOy | is there a maths channel? |
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| 04:36.58 | akusarujin | anyone know how to get gstreamer-0.8 working with alsa on testing? |
| 04:37.22 | eXa_bOy | im having issues with COS and SIN |
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| 04:37.49 | cheal | eXa_bOy: /msg chanserv list #*math* |
| 04:38.20 | eXa_bOy | im more after the manual formulas for both |
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| 04:38.48 | cheal | the manual formulas? |
| 04:38.51 | eXa_bOy | yeah |
| 04:39.06 | eXa_bOy | cause i think the MS math is wrong. |
| 04:39.20 | cheal | what's taht? |
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| 04:40.08 | eXa_bOy | go into excel and type : =COS(30) you wont get 0.866 |
| 04:40.11 | Supaplex | s/math/ |
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| 04:41.22 | woodland | hi i am unable to connect to ircsuper.net |
| 04:41.25 | cheal | so what? does this ahve anything to do with free software? |
| 04:41.44 | Supaplex | sucks to be woodland |
| 04:41.53 | Supaplex | !pal woodland |
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| 04:42.03 | woodland | Supaplex, what happened |
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| 04:43.01 | woodland | Supaplex, can you help |
| 04:43.12 | Supaplex | not a bit |
| 04:43.38 | MrNaz | pfft 22 hours |
| 04:43.49 | MrNaz | ive been up since 1982 |
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| 04:44.06 | Supaplex | !win MrNaz |
| 04:44.07 | dpkg | Congratulations, MrNaz! You have won the US presidency! |
| 04:44.11 | MrNaz | hehe |
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| 04:44.38 | woodland | why cant i connect to ircsuper.net , there is some error saying connection refused |
| 04:44.52 | akusarujin | i take it nobody around is using gstreamer..? |
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| 04:44.57 | MrNaz | the ircd is prolly not running |
| 04:45.15 | wookienz | peterS: it appears that it needs to have a local acct on the nix machine before it will add a smb user. |
| 04:45.30 | akusarujin | that's correct, wookienz |
| 04:45.37 | akusarujin | unless you use a backend like mysql or ldap |
| 04:45.37 | Varanger | hello |
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| 04:46.17 | peterS | wookienz: oh yeah, I should have mentioned that. sorry. |
| 04:46.48 | wookienz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.10 | akusarujin | yeah, if you use ldap or mysql, like i said... |
| 04:47.27 | wookienz | ah sorry missed that line |
| 04:47.38 | Supaplex | woodland: or set their shell correctly. also the unix pw doesn't have to match the samba pw. |
| 04:47.41 | peterS | akusarujin: does samba work correctly with ldap accounts which are *not* used for unix users, then? I thought it required the unix system to use those users too |
| 04:47.51 | akusarujin | i don't really recommend ldap for a home setup, though.. |
| 04:48.01 | peterS | akusarujin: since it needs to map them to a unix UID at some point, so it can seteuid() to that user for file operations |
| 04:48.17 | wookienz | ok so does my windows machine have to have the same account name etc to map thjenetwork drive? |
| 04:48.21 | Supaplex | I don't recomment ldap for anything less then 50 users :-D |
| 04:48.24 | akusarujin | peterS: from what i've read in the samba documentation (unless i misunderstood) you can set it up without unix accounts for each individual users |
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| 04:48.37 | Roey | hi |
| 04:48.37 | akusarujin | s/users/user/ |
| 04:48.40 | peterS | akusarujin: so if you create a file on a unix machine, then, who owns the file? |
| 04:48.56 | peterS | akusarujin: I mean if you create it using samba, using an account that isn't known to the unix system |
| 04:48.58 | Supaplex | each share can explicitly set ownership. eg, nobody:nobody |
| 04:49.13 | akusarujin | if i'm not mistaken, peterS, you map the ldap users to valid unix users |
| 04:49.26 | akusarujin | but you don't need a unix user per ldap user |
| 04:49.27 | peterS | akusarujin: there you go then. the unix users *are* necessary, one way or another |
| 04:49.38 | akusarujin | read my second line |
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| 04:49.59 | wookienz | peterS: akusarujin, when i try and map a network drive from windows to samba it wont accept the password i have given it in the smbpasswd command |
| 04:50.09 | theStruggle | can anyone tell me what my ip is? |
| 04:50.12 | akusarujin | you can just have generic unix users, from what i understood when reading the samba documentation for ldap setups |
| 04:50.27 | tvn | how do I find what channels a user is in ? |
| 04:50.33 | akusarujin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:50.43 | Supaplex | ask them |
| 04:50.48 | Supaplex | :P |
| 04:50.51 | akusarujin | unless the channel's secret/private |
| 04:51.15 | tvn | thanks |
| 04:52.04 | Roey | Hi. I've compiled the drivers for the on-board Promise SATA controller into my handrolled kernel. I've just installed the Debian stock kernel, where the same drivers are loaded as modules *but* are not listed in debian stock initrd's module list. As my disks are SATA, When the system boots the Debian stock kernel, the kernel can't interface to the disks containing /dev/sda* and panics. http://rafb.net/paste/results/09BzWx86.html. Which i |
| 04:52.04 | Roey | s a more portable approach: recompiling the kernel to include the drivers, or listing their modules in initrd.img? How do I open up initrd.img, anyway? |
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| 04:53.57 | Roey | (hello?) |
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| 04:55.11 | Kovecses | Roey, hello |
| 04:55.27 | Roey | Kovecses: heya |
| 04:55.39 | Kovecses | Roey, you got a question? |
| 04:55.46 | Roey | (see above) |
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| 04:57.40 | Roey | Kovecses: yes |
| 04:57.46 | Roey | Kovecses: I wrote out the question above |
| 04:59.09 | Kovecses | wasnt in here then |
| 04:59.51 | tvn | Roey: usually I list modules in /etc/modules ... |
| 05:00.35 | Kovecses | anyone here know where i can grab k3b |
| 05:00.38 | Kovecses | the deb |
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| 05:02.00 | tvn | why don't you use apt-get ? |
| 05:02.57 | welson | a |
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| 05:03.36 | Roey | tvn: again |
| 05:03.41 | Roey | tvn: it can't load / |
| 05:03.49 | Roey | tvn: it can load initrd fine, because lilo can do that |
| 05:04.26 | Roey | tvn: but it can't mount /dev/sda because the drivers are not compiled into the kernel and their modules are not listed in the initrd's modules list. |
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| 05:05.56 | tvn | Roey: ic, I don't have experience with loading driver with initrd , I compile it to the kernel if it's something must present back when I still compile the kernel |
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| 05:06.50 | encKe` | .j #slackware |
| 05:07.11 | Roey | tvn: you compile debian kernels in the debian way? |
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| 05:07.30 | Roey | tvn: do you strip yours of unnecessary drivers so that compiles don't take a year and a half? |
| 05:07.32 | liable | anyone else getting bad header lines from debian.org for packages? |
| 05:07.33 | tvn | Roey: no, the non-debian way |
| 05:07.42 | Roey | tvn: that's what I do too. |
| 05:07.59 | Roey | tvn: how do you load nvidia's drivers then? |
| 05:08.06 | ice_1963 | yes i am |
| 05:08.07 | tvn | Roey: I do it that way since it's the only way I know ... |
| 05:08.21 | tvn | Roey: I use matrox , no nvidia |
| 05:08.28 | Roey | ok |
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| 05:08.32 | nevyn | pwd |
| 05:08.42 | Roey | ~ |
| 05:08.52 | Roey | damn this. |
| 05:09.02 | Roey | why is debian so backwards sometims? argh. |
| 05:09.37 | tvn | Roey: yep I strip all unneccessary things so that the kernel image is small ... but now I just use Debian stock kernel |
| 05:09.46 | Roey | ok |
| 05:10.01 | bucky | Roey, you're supposed to be able to list modules in /etc/mkinitrd/modules that you want added to the initrd-img |
| 05:10.03 | Roey | well I could use a debian stock kernel but debian doesn't wanna include some necessary sata chipset drivers. |
| 05:10.11 | Roey | bucky: ok, one sec |
| 05:10.20 | wookienz | well....i have a unix user with the same details as i have put in the smbpasswd file, but i cant connect to the hsare from windows. Can connect from the same amchine as a clinet using those details however....ie linux = connect good.. windows =connect bad...any ideas? |
| 05:10.34 | bucky | that tells mkinitrd which extra modules to install |
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| 05:10.42 | Roey | bucky: ok, this makes sense now |
| 05:10.46 | bucky | i've had mixed results with it |
| 05:10.53 | Roey | bucky: so I have sata drivers that I need loaded. |
| 05:10.53 | bucky | try it |
| 05:11.09 | Gnea | wookienz: #samba |
| 05:11.13 | Roey | bucky: I forgot their names... and the <help> option in the make menuconfig in the linux source dir doesn't say what it is |
| 05:11.17 | Roey | it's these drivers: |
| 05:11.27 | bucky | i'm not a phsycic |
| 05:11.36 | Roey | PROMISE PDC202{46|62|65|67} support ; PROMISE PDC202{68|69|70|71|75|76|77} support |
| 05:11.39 | Roey | ok |
| 05:11.42 | Gnea | bucky: who is? :) |
| 05:11.46 | Roey | me |
| 05:11.51 | Gnea | liar. |
| 05:11.54 | Roey | I can divine cosmic facts |
| 05:11.56 | Roey | 1) god hatesme |
| 05:12.14 | peterS | have you been reading http://www.godhatesfags.com/ again? |
| 05:12.17 | Roey | 2) eveyrthing I try out on my compute rwill fail for me and me only. FOr everyone else, it'll be fine. |
| 05:12.29 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 05:12.32 | bucky | back in the good old days you were supposed to do a thing called a hardware survey and know what hardware you had and which drivers they required |
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| 05:12.39 | Roey | bucky: well yes |
| 05:12.42 | Roey | bucky: I've done that. |
| 05:12.46 | Roey | bucky: I just lost the notes. |
| 05:12.51 | bucky | redhat 5.2 i think |
| 05:13.03 | peterS | back in the olden days, we didn't have no lspci, we didn't have no pnpdump |
| 05:13.05 | bucky | maybe earlier |
| 05:13.18 | peterS | we read chip numbers off circuit boards and *guessed* what everything was |
| 05:13.19 | bucky | no pnpdump.. that was fun |
| 05:13.25 | peterS | we didn't have no google either, to type chip numbers into |
| 05:13.28 | bucky | modems |
| 05:13.43 | Gnea | Roey: hey, you've got something dangling out of your anal cavity... it looks like... well, sounds like the area where your words are coming from... OMFG, your head is STUCK UP IN YOUR ASS!!! :P |
| 05:13.50 | peterS | and those banks of 5 dip switches or jumpers, we *guessed* what those meant too |
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| 05:14.25 | peterS | since back in the olden days, our hardware was *still* old enough that we'd long since lost the docs that came with it |
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| 05:15.09 | peterS | (or whoever we bought / got it from had lost the docs) |
| 05:15.13 | Roey | CONFIG_SCSI_PATA_PDC2027X |
| 05:15.18 | Roey | how can I find the module name ofr htis? |
| 05:15.37 | Gnea | it's usually in the help section |
| 05:15.50 | Roey | Gnea: It was not listed in the help section. |
| 05:15.54 | Gnea | when you find it in the list in the config... and click on the 'help' button |
| 05:15.58 | Roey | right |
| 05:16.01 | Roey | and it isn't there. |
| 05:16.06 | Gnea | why not? |
| 05:16.20 | peterS | Roey: read the source, or failing that, look in /lib/modules/{your_version}/kernel/drivers/scsi/ and guess. sata_promise, perhaps |
| 05:16.21 | Roey | Gnea: because ordinarily it would say "the module for this is called so-and-so" |
| 05:16.32 | Roey | Gnea: only here it doesn't list any module name ofr this option. |
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| 05:17.10 | Gnea | Roey: hrm, so if you look at other similar modules, it lists those module names, right? |
| 05:17.20 | cddesjar | everytime i reboot i need to run network-admin to activate my wireless card...is there a way i can automate this? |
| 05:17.23 | Roey | gnea: some yes, some no. |
| 05:17.37 | peterS | Gnea: he's right, it's a manual thing that should appear in the help text but sometimes people forget |
| 05:17.44 | Gnea | Roey: and if you try to find the name of those within your kernel source tree, they tend to land in the same general directory, no? |
| 05:17.56 | Gnea | peterS: oh well yeah |
| 05:18.11 | peterS | Roey: you can read 'drivers/scsi/Makefile' to see what is built by that config option, that's the best way if you have the source tree still handy |
| 05:18.22 | Roey | peterS: ok, thank you |
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| 05:18.40 | bucky | when i use cdrecord it says Using libscg version 'ubuntu-0.8ubuntu1'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (ubuntu-0.8ubuntu1 '@(#)scsitransp.c |
| 05:18.43 | wookienz | peterS: ahaa....had to add a allow hosts = 192.168. line |
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| 05:18.58 | Roey | obj-$(CONFIG_SCSI_PATA_PDC2027X)+= libata.o pata_pdc2027x.o |
| 05:18.58 | Roey | obj-$(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PROMISE) += libata.o sata_promise.o |
| 05:19.00 | peterS | wookienz: ah, heh |
| 05:19.08 | Gnea | oh well look at that |
| 05:19.12 | peterS | Roey: there you go then. pata_pdc2027x is the module name |
| 05:19.33 | cddesjar | bucky: #ubuntu |
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| 05:19.39 | Gnea | find /usr/src -name "pata_pdc2027x*" |
| 05:19.43 | peterS | Roey: don't get confused by .o versus .ko, btw. the .o in the Makefile is an implementation detail |
| 05:19.43 | bucky | cddesjar, that's in Etch |
| 05:19.53 | cddesjar | oh |
| 05:19.55 | peterS | the actual module will be named .ko |
| 05:20.04 | cheal | back in the old days, I had no computer. wow... |
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| 05:20.07 | Roey | obj-$(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA) += libata.o sata_via.o |
| 05:20.11 | Roey | cheal: hey chealz |
| 05:20.14 | bucky | 1.91 04/06/17 Copyright 1988,1995,2000-2004 J. Schilling'). |
| 05:20.16 | Gnea | peterS: if it's a 2.6 |
| 05:20.19 | cheal | hi Roey |
| 05:20.19 | Roey | peterS: hmm |
| 05:20.21 | cddesjar | how do i edit dhcp? |
| 05:20.22 | peterS | Gnea: yes |
| 05:20.25 | cddesjar | i forgot the file |
| 05:20.32 | cddesjar | something like 5 interface |
| 05:20.35 | cddesjar | man 5 interface |
| 05:20.37 | cheal | I guess I had time to spend instead |
| 05:20.40 | peterS | cddesjar: man 5 interfaces |
| 05:20.40 | cddesjar | something similar to that |
| 05:20.40 | Gnea | cddesjar: it's in /etc/ somewhere |
| 05:20.46 | cddesjar | with the s |
| 05:20.47 | cddesjar | ok |
| 05:20.47 | peterS | cddesjar: the file is /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:20.53 | Gnea | maybe it starts with dhcp |
| 05:20.54 | Roey | /usr/src/linux-2.6.11/drivers/scsi/pata_pdc2027x.o |
| 05:20.55 | bucky | cddesjar, client or server? |
| 05:20.59 | cddesjar | client |
| 05:20.59 | Gnea | and ends with something else |
| 05:21.20 | bucky | cddesjar, /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 05:21.30 | bucky | cddesjar, so why would you want to do that? |
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| 05:21.32 | Gnea | Roey: now try this: find /lib/modules/2.6.11/ -name "pata_pdc2027x*" |
| 05:22.02 | cddesjar | no i am trying to hook my computer up to a network that uses dhcp and i want it to do it automatically |
| 05:22.06 | peterS | Gnea: no need for that, you just look in /lib/modules/2.6.11*/kernel/drivers/scsi, same path as in the source |
| 05:22.09 | cddesjar | so i didn't auto eth0 |
| 05:22.15 | cddesjar | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 05:22.22 | Roey | Gnea: it didn't find anything |
| 05:22.26 | Roey | Gnea: there is however sata_promise |
| 05:22.26 | Gnea | peterS: well he only found the object file, not the actual module |
| 05:22.29 | peterS | cddesjar: right, 'auto eth0' is important if you want it to come up automatically at boot time |
| 05:22.30 | Roey | Gnea: and sata_via |
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| 05:22.50 | bucky | cddesjar, you need iface eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:22.54 | bucky | or similar |
| 05:22.57 | Gnea | Roey: so maybe it's an object that's part of another module that comprises that controller... |
| 05:22.58 | peterS | Roey: I'm confused at how you came to possess a pata_pdc2027x.o at all. my 2.6.11 source tree doesn't have one |
| 05:23.01 | cddesjar | peterS: if i dont' have aut eth1...wireless won't come up automatically right without needing to be activated? |
| 05:23.24 | peterS | Roey: I wonder if your actual source is in an external module tarball, built using module-assistant or something |
| 05:23.29 | Roey | no |
| 05:23.30 | Roey | nono |
| 05:23.49 | Roey | peterS: I looked in /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/scsi/ |
| 05:23.55 | Roey | that's Debian's stock stuff |
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| 05:24.21 | Gnea | Roey: are you running a stock debian or a debian-amd64 distribution? |
| 05:24.43 | peterS | Gnea: that kernel is available in stock debian |
| 05:24.44 | Roey | peterS: so say I want to list this in /etc/mkinitrd/modules; what would I do after that? |
| 05:24.59 | Roey | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.04 | Gnea | peterS: right, but it breaks much functionality of some programs |
| 05:25.05 | Roey | in my case: |
| 05:25.18 | Gnea | peterS: conversely, many programs have not been converted to 64bit yet |
| 05:25.23 | Roey | mkinitrd -o initrd.img -r ? ? |
| 05:25.42 | peterS | Roey: that, or you can "cheat" by just doing 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)' |
| 05:25.50 | Roey | oh, heh :) |
| 05:25.51 | peterS | Roey: it'll rerun mkinitrd for you (: |
| 05:25.54 | Roey | I'll do that then. |
| 05:25.58 | Roey | that's safe? |
| 05:26.02 | peterS | works for me |
| 05:26.05 | Roey | nice |
| 05:26.06 | Roey | one sec. |
| 05:26.12 | peterS | "safe" is a relative term when dealing in initrds |
| 05:26.17 | stew | had some dogfishhead pumpkin tonight. it was tres yummy |
| 05:26.29 | peterS | you *can* verify that the initrd has a newer timestamp afterwards, to prove it got regenerated |
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| 05:26.46 | dpower | whats up deb heads |
| 05:28.28 | cheal | dpower: hey, we also have asses |
| 05:28.38 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 05:28.40 | cheal | although those are more down |
| 05:28.46 | dpower | :S |
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| 05:29.08 | Roey | peterS: ok, I think it did it. |
| 05:29.10 | Roey | lemme reboot and see. |
| 05:29.16 | Roey | Gnea, peterS: much thanks |
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| 05:29.24 | peterS | Roey: no problem, let us know how it goes |
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| 05:29.40 | Roey | aye. |
| 05:29.53 | Kovecses | nice icewm rules |
| 05:30.19 | ice_1963 | i like xfce |
| 05:30.26 | Kovecses | xfce is cool too |
| 05:30.38 | peterS | ice_1963: you don't use ice1963wm? |
| 05:30.56 | Kovecses | i use fluxbox mostly |
| 05:30.57 | ice_1963 | well yes |
| 05:31.10 | peterS | 1963 was a good year for ice |
| 05:31.20 | peterS | I still keep some in my freezer |
| 05:31.33 | Kovecses | but icewmis pretty impressive |
| 05:31.41 | Kovecses | 2 megs or ram is all it uses |
| 05:31.46 | dpower | !xfce |
| 05:31.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, xfce is a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. http://www.xfce.org/ . Sarge : apt-get install xfce4 Woody : apt-get install xfce |
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| 05:31.53 | dpower | cool |
| 05:32.00 | ice_1963 | well i come out some time's |
| 05:32.10 | Gnea | ok |
| 05:32.14 | ice_1963 | :0) |
| 05:32.21 | Gnea | i just noticed something interesting in this week's E17. |
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| 05:32.28 | Kovecses | what wm/de do you others use? |
| 05:32.33 | Gnea | there's a GUI file manager built into the main menu. |
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| 05:34.00 | Kovecses | Gnea, is e17 aptable |
| 05:34.12 | Gnea | !DR17 |
| 05:34.12 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 05:34.17 | Gnea | Kovecses: have a blast. |
| 05:34.34 | Kovecses | ty |
| 05:34.36 | phogg | I use e16 because e17 is too much of a bother at the moment |
| 05:34.40 | Gnea | np hf |
| 05:34.50 | Gnea | i used e16 for years |
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| 05:35.06 | Gnea | e17 became usable a few months ago |
| 05:35.15 | phogg | It's funny how everyone said E was bloated and slow where what they realy meant was "Three years early" |
| 05:35.16 | Gnea | well, it's like sid though |
| 05:35.17 | Gnea | :) |
| 05:35.20 | dpower | !e17 |
| 05:35.20 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
| 05:35.39 | phogg | Gnea: usable, yeah, but still a bother |
| 05:35.50 | Gnea | phogg: a bother? how? |
| 05:35.51 | Kovecses | phogg, what do u use? |
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| 05:35.59 | phogg | Kovecses: scroll up |
| 05:36.08 | Kovecses | lol |
| 05:36.10 | Kovecses | oh yeah |
| 05:36.30 | phogg | Gnea: it would be some effort to get all of my settings redone with it. Over time one grows accustomed to ones own special environment |
| 05:36.33 | Gnea | phogg: i mean, i don't even use the .debs, i wrote my own script to get the latest of everything and to install all the necessary tools to build the latest cvs in debian... |
| 05:36.46 | Gnea | phogg: i agree. |
| 05:37.39 | phogg | Gnea: one day I'll decide enough is enough. But it wont be until after I upgrade gaim past version 0.58 which wont be till after I patch the new logger. I'm behind on all of my side projects |
| 05:37.40 | Gnea | phogg: phogg that's why it was very difficult for me to convince myself to make the switch from e16 to e17 |
| 05:38.01 | Kovecses | all i ever use is fluxbox and icewm.....and i save my settings ...and they work on both |
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| 05:38.11 | Gnea | phogg: hahaha |
| 05:38.22 | Gnea | fluxbox rocks |
| 05:38.22 | peterS | you save the settings IN YOUR PANTS |
| 05:38.26 | Gnea | speaking of which |
| 05:38.28 | Gnea | hahahahaha |
| 05:38.44 | Gnea | i need to remaster this dsl some more |
| 05:39.08 | Kovecses | damn small? |
| 05:39.11 | SimonRaven | looks like a typical friday night here :) |
| 05:39.12 | Gnea | nod |
| 05:39.39 | Gnea | oh |
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| 05:39.47 | Gnea | i could sure use one of those right about now |
| 05:39.50 | dpower | !beer #debian |
| 05:39.50 | Gnea | thanks :) |
| 05:39.57 | Gnea | !beer Kovecses |
| 05:40.38 | Kovecses | lol |
| 05:40.40 | Gnea | heh |
| 05:41.07 | Kovecses | hey what packages do i need to set up a printer? |
| 05:41.24 | Gnea | cups and foomatic-gui |
| 05:41.28 | SimonRaven | not what some would call, uh, straight edge, but need to keep my head clear |
| 05:41.31 | Kovecses | why ty |
| 05:41.33 | peterS | so the Italian modal verb 'to be able (to do something)' is "potere", which sounds kind of like a verb for smoking weed |
| 05:41.43 | dpower | fumar |
| 05:41.54 | SimonRaven | it does |
| 05:41.55 | Gnea | SimonRaven: i hate the term "straight edge" |
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| 05:42.13 | Kovecses | where are you guys from anyway? |
| 05:42.21 | beoba | boston |
| 05:42.22 | dpower | chicago |
| 05:42.26 | dpower | GO SOX |
| 05:42.26 | Gnea | phoenix |
| 05:42.30 | woodland | anybody from turkey here ? |
| 05:42.34 | beoba | dpower: :D |
| 05:42.35 | peterS | vuole potere alle 4:20 stasera? |
| 05:42.37 | SimonRaven | i've always (probably wrongly) associated it with right-wing fundie christians... |
| 05:42.39 | peterS | e.g. |
| 05:42.47 | SimonRaven | bonnyville, alberta |
| 05:42.52 | woodland | :> |
| 05:42.54 | dpower | go flames |
| 05:42.56 | beoba | i picture knives when i hear "straight edge" |
| 05:42.58 | SimonRaven | no, you've never heard of it |
| 05:43.03 | Gnea | beoba: hehehe |
| 05:43.22 | SimonRaven | beoba: me too, since i shave with one =) |
| 05:43.30 | peterS | heh |
| 05:43.32 | phogg | beoba: so what do you call a straightedge? |
| 05:43.40 | dpower | beoba: i was reffering to "go 'white' sox" |
| 05:43.42 | dpower | :D |
| 05:43.47 | Gnea | Kovecses: where you at? |
| 05:43.53 | beoba | dpower: r u dum? gawd |
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| 05:44.06 | dpower | no, just drunk |
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| 05:44.18 | Kovecses | im the other color sox fan |
| 05:44.18 | Gnea | okay, that's a good excuse |
| 05:44.20 | peterS | beoba: the term usually means a piece of plastic or metal that you use to help you draw a straight line. a ruler, but possibly without distance markings on it |
| 05:44.28 | Skrot | dpower: join the club |
| 05:44.37 | dpower | red, im happy for ya guys lasy yeat |
| 05:44.41 | beoba | peterS: mmk |
| 05:44.41 | paulproteus | Do any of you use some sort of automatic backport program? It's a pain to follow build-dependencies recursively until I have all the necessary packages for something to install. |
| 05:44.42 | dpower | this year was ours :) |
| 05:44.45 | Kovecses | Gnea, im in New Hampshire |
| 05:44.51 | paulproteus | I'm looking into apt-build, but it doesn't seem to work the way I expect. |
| 05:44.52 | Kovecses | Gnea, small town |
| 05:44.59 | Gnea | Kovecses: cool. uhm, what's in new hampshire? :) |
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| 05:45.08 | dpower | eheh Skrot |
| 05:45.09 | Kovecses | Gnea, got snow today |
| 05:45.11 | beoba | dpower: i dont actually give a shit about baseball, i just happen to be a couple blocks from fenway |
| 05:45.13 | Gnea | w00t |
| 05:45.15 | Gnea | i miss snow |
| 05:45.22 | dpower | i give a shit :) |
| 05:45.26 | phogg | paulproteus: you can script most of that, surely |
| 05:45.28 | Kovecses | i love New Hampshire |
| 05:45.33 | Skrot | dpower: it's like 8AM here, so I'm almost sober though :p |
| 05:45.39 | SimonRaven | paulproteus: it can quickly get messy |
| 05:45.41 | beoba | i'm originally from kansas city, and they've got the royals |
| 05:45.43 | Gnea | dpower: i gave at the office #) |
| 05:45.49 | beoba | i dont think much more needs to be said about that |
| 05:45.55 | dpower | norway :)) |
| 05:46.01 | Kovecses | norway |
| 05:46.01 | paulproteus | phogg: Right, and given that, I figure someone should have already written that script. ;) |
| 05:46.14 | Kovecses | some nice metal bands out of norway |
| 05:46.15 | paulproteus | SimonRaven: It can; I guess if it gets more than two packages deep, asking me if it should proceed is probably worthwhile. |
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| 05:46.27 | paulproteus | You should be able to calculate from the get-go what's going to be needed, actually. |
| 05:46.45 | SimonRaven | well, not drinking beer or smoking, i can say it had a postive side-effect, i see my little lights more often |
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| 05:49.00 | SimonRaven | just to ease people's wonderment, i'll say this, it's a positive spiritual thing, in my traditions |
| 05:49.01 | Estagus | re all |
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| 05:49.15 | Marxist | yeah i don't drink tea, alcohol, coffee or smoke anything |
| 05:49.17 | Drakh | i should stop drinking coffee |
| 05:49.18 | Estagus | how can I change a respawn time? |
| 05:49.28 | paulproteus | Estagus: In /etc/inittab ? |
| 05:49.28 | Estagus | (init) |
| 05:49.29 | Drakh | I don't drink or smoke |
| 05:49.32 | Estagus | yes |
| 05:49.41 | Kovecses | i do all and the above |
| 05:49.57 | paulproteus | Estagus: Give the file a read-over; I remember it being fairly straightforward. |
| 05:50.11 | SimonRaven | yummy protein :) |
| 05:50.20 | paulproteus | Estagus: Ask me again if you think it'll be too hard, or a more precise question, and I'll do my best to help. |
| 05:50.23 | SimonRaven | hehe |
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| 05:51.15 | Kovecses | is testing stupid to use? |
| 05:51.21 | SimonRaven | nah |
| 05:51.22 | paulproteus | Kovecses: No. |
| 05:51.26 | Kovecses | ok cool |
| 05:51.45 | Kovecses | i wanted some things sarge did not offer |
| 05:51.46 | SimonRaven | there's testing security now, too. which is really nice. (thanks to the folks who put that together) |
| 05:51.53 | Gnea | !backports |
| 05:52.00 | Gnea | !backport |
| 05:52.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 05:52.05 | Kovecses | Gnea, even in backports |
| 05:52.14 | Kovecses | well they might be now |
| 05:52.15 | Gnea | Kovecses: oh.. |
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| 05:52.32 | Gnea | well, testing's not a bad thing |
| 05:52.34 | Gnea | hrm |
| 05:52.39 | Gnea | i should get my printer working in sid again |
| 05:52.43 | Kovecses | seems very stable to me |
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| 05:52.57 | paulproteus | Kovecses: Then you haven't used Debian stable for years on end. :) |
| 05:52.58 | Gnea | there's sorta new-fangled HP printing thingamabob |
| 05:53.01 | Guerin | Kovecses: stable == doesn't change |
| 05:53.10 | SimonRaven | yeh, all us sid users get the brunt of the bugs ;) |
| 05:53.12 | Guerin | Kovecses: so when it changes, that perception might change |
| 05:53.25 | Kovecses | except for the Mounting Local Filesystems......failed! error i get at boot |
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| 05:53.40 | Roey | hello |
| 05:53.40 | Gnea | SimonRaven: and the maintainers always leave the bug juice container with only a few drops ;) |
| 05:53.55 | Roey | peterS, Gnea: hi |
| 05:54.02 | peterS | hey |
| 05:54.04 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 05:54.04 | Gnea | Roey: word. |
| 05:54.30 | Kovecses | Guerin, come again? |
| 05:54.49 | Guerin | Kovecses: ? |
| 05:55.02 | Estagus | paulproteus: sorry, but I can not see how te change default "5 min" |
| 05:55.15 | Kovecses | Guerin, i didnt understand your stable speech |
| 05:55.16 | Estagus | paulproteus: sorry, but I can not see how to change default "5 min" |
| 05:55.20 | paulproteus | Estagus: That's okay, don't apologize. :) |
| 05:55.22 | SimonRaven | seriously though, i think the maintainers do a nice job. thanks folks |
| 05:55.24 | paulproteus | Let me take a look at the file. |
| 05:55.42 | Roey | peterS, Gnea: http://rafb.net/paste/results/N2nWyl35.html |
| 05:55.46 | Estagus | paulproteus: my file? |
| 05:55.46 | Guerin | Kovecses: what bit is unclear? |
| 05:55.53 | paulproteus | Estagus: My own. |
| 05:55.57 | Kovecses | Guerin, nm |
| 05:55.59 | Estagus | paulproteus: ok... |
| 05:55.59 | Roey | peterS, Gnea: that is my experience so far |
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| 05:56.18 | Roey | paulproteus: hey dude, long time no see |
| 05:56.29 | paulproteus | Roey: Yeah! How're you? |
| 05:56.31 | peterS | Roey: "pivot_root: no such file or directory"? weird. |
| 05:56.35 | Roey | paulproteus: all ok! |
| 05:56.50 | Roey | paulproteus: how do we know eachother btw? :) |
| 05:56.57 | paulproteus | #debian-kde two years ago, iirc |
| 05:57.02 | Kovecses | anyone know how to fix the Mounting Local Filesystems......failed! error i get at boot |
| 05:57.06 | paulproteus | Maybe #maryland , if not that. |
| 05:57.07 | peterS | Roey: it did find 2 disks on 2 scsi controllers, with 3 partitions each. is that what it was supposed to find? |
| 05:57.08 | Roey | paulproteus: so what happened since then? :) where are you these days? |
| 05:57.11 | Roey | paulproteus: umd maybe? |
| 05:57.17 | Roey | peterS: yes |
| 05:57.18 | paulproteus | I'm at JHU. |
| 05:57.20 | encompass | so, has anyone connect a bluetooth wireless headset to debian before? |
| 05:57.26 | Guerin | Kovecses: is it really an error? DO your filesystems actually not get mounted? |
| 05:57.27 | Roey | paulproteus: were you at umd in '02? |
| 05:57.29 | Gnea | Roey: oooh... wait, are you trying to setup hardware or software raid? |
| 05:57.30 | encompass | morning Guerin |
| 05:57.34 | Roey | Gnea: sw raid. |
| 05:57.39 | encompass | morning SimonRaven |
| 05:57.41 | Guerin | encompass: no, you're breaking virgin territory. |
| 05:57.41 | Kovecses | Guerin, yes they get mounted fine |
| 05:57.44 | SimonRaven | hi |
| 05:57.44 | Roey | Gnea: I mean it works on my current kernel, which is what I'm booted into. |
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| 05:57.48 | Guerin | Kovecses: so don't worry about it. |
| 05:57.51 | Guerin | !warnings |
| 05:57.51 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 05:57.55 | Kovecses | Guerin, i just dont like the big red failed! |
| 05:57.59 | SimonRaven | technically morning here, too |
| 05:58.02 | paulproteus | Roey: Nope. I was in #maryland for a while in 2002 and 2003, though. I've been at JHU since 2002 . |
| 05:58.03 | Gnea | Roey: er, ok, but don't you have a hardware raid controller? |
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| 05:58.17 | Guerin | Kovecses: well, since you're not using debian anyway, I don't see how it's ourconcern |
| 05:58.19 | encompass | haha |
| 05:58.25 | Roey | Gnea: I'd like to use sw raid for now until I get a real controller like an Escalade one |
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| 05:58.31 | Kovecses | Guerin, what? |
| 05:58.32 | Roey | Gnea: anyhow, I've been doing sw raid for eyars now |
| 05:58.35 | peterS | Gnea: I don't think those promise or via controllers have any hardware raid capabilities |
| 05:58.37 | Gnea | Roey: oh ok |
| 05:58.38 | Kovecses | Guerin, im on debian |
| 05:58.47 | Roey | paulproteus: oh ok |
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| 05:58.51 | Roey | paulproteus: I'm Roey, btw. |
| 05:58.55 | Guerin | Kovecses: debian init doesn't have 'big red failed!' |
| 05:59.04 | SimonRaven | installer does |
| 05:59.04 | Kovecses | Guerin, come over |
| 05:59.06 | paulproteus | Roey: Your nick says it all. ;) |
| 05:59.10 | Kovecses | Guerin, mine does |
| 05:59.15 | tina | did something happen to daapd, i want to set up an itunes readable servery guy and it says to use daapd but it doesn't appear to be in unstable |
| 05:59.16 | encompass | what gets anoying is the information debian throws at your cosole and ruins bitchx and everything I run |
| 05:59.17 | peterS | Roey: you might try installing 'yaird'. the debian package. it is a replacement for mkinitrd and works very well at least for me |
| 05:59.18 | Roey | Gnea, peterS: so might I be missing any more modules in /etc/mkinitrd/modules, do you think? |
| 05:59.22 | Gnea | peterS: something like this: 0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) <-- is that not a hardware raid controller? |
| 05:59.26 | Guerin | Kovecses: ubuntu does, and several debian-based distros do, but plain debian doesn't. |
| 05:59.32 | Roey | peterS: but I don't know what the problem is at this point -- something is missing? |
| 05:59.41 | Roey | Gnea: yes it is. |
| 05:59.43 | Kovecses | Guerin, i promise you im on debian |
| 05:59.48 | SimonRaven | encompass: ^l |
| 05:59.58 | Kovecses | Guerin, i did an etch netinstall |
| 06:00.04 | Roey | Gnea: I do have it but I don't want to use it because my disk setup is already set up.. |
| 06:00.04 | Guerin | Kovecses: then what did you do to init to make it do the braindead 'hide output from the user' thing? |
| 06:00.05 | SimonRaven | Guerin: d-i does |
| 06:00.07 | tina | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/daapd -- it's empty :( |
| 06:00.16 | Guerin | SimonRaven: since when? not sarge. |
| 06:00.28 | peterS | Gnea: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html#via |
| 06:00.34 | Gnea | Roey: that's fine - i was trying to make the distinction between crappy raid controllers and decent ones :) |
| 06:00.38 | peterS | Gnea: don't know if that question/answer applies to that model specifically though |
| 06:00.46 | Kovecses | Guerin, nothing...... it happened when i installed the .... 2.6.12-1-i686smp kernel |
| 06:00.47 | SimonRaven | yes, sarge. when you get an error, that what happens. screen gets red background, with the whiptail dialogue in yellow |
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| 06:00.57 | paulproteus | Estagus: I can't seem to find it, either. |
| 06:01.04 | SimonRaven | or beige, don't remember exactly |
| 06:01.05 | Guerin | SimonRaven: not on any of my sarge/sid machines. |
| 06:01.05 | paulproteus | Don't processes respawn immediately? |
| 06:01.12 | paulproteus | Do you mean the "respawning too often" message? |
| 06:01.30 | Gnea | peterS: oh that's awesome |
| 06:01.32 | peterS | Roey: the idea of yaird is that it autodetects the stuff you need better than mkinitrd does, and builds very small initrds in comparison. I don't know, offhand, how to force it to load specific ones |
| 06:01.37 | Estagus | paulproteus: yes |
| 06:01.43 | Roey | peterS: ohhh ok |
| 06:01.48 | Estagus | paulproteus: 5 min is too big period |
| 06:01.48 | Roey | peterS: I will try it then. |
| 06:01.57 | strat | ive been trying to do a net install of etch for about a week..but every daily image i download..i get a error when it tries to install initrid tools...anyone else with that problem?? |
| 06:02.04 | paulproteus | Estagus: What's the exact message? |
| 06:02.10 | paulproteus | Googling that should be useful, but I don't have it around. |
| 06:02.11 | peterS | Roey: you do have to change a line in /etc/kernel-img.conf to say "ramdisk = /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird" |
| 06:02.19 | Gnea | highpoint makes a really nice hardware raid controller that's compatible with linux |
| 06:02.29 | Roey | peterS: and then I can dpkg-reconfigure like before? |
| 06:02.31 | peterS | Roey: I think that's the only change you have to make other than 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)' to have it rebuild the initrd |
| 06:02.34 | peterS | yeah |
| 06:02.34 | Roey | ok |
| 06:02.50 | Estagus | paulproteus: respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
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| 06:03.24 | SimonRaven | i used to get that with udev, when it wouldn't create ttys... |
| 06:03.53 | SimonRaven | filed a bug, told i was full of it, and it got closed *shrug* |
| 06:04.06 | SimonRaven | (well, go see for yourself) |
| 06:04.20 | Guerin | SimonRaven: hrm, could this new boot display thing be a udev issue? |
| 06:04.33 | peterS | Roey: so I don't understand what you've got *at present* - is /dev/md1 your root filesystem or something, or is this just something you are attempting, unsuccessfully, to migrate to? |
| 06:04.35 | Kovecses | is splashy a good idea |
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| 06:05.07 | SimonRaven | Estagus: is this at install, or when you're finishing booting? |
| 06:05.10 | Roey | peterS: I'm just trying to migrate from a hand-rolled kernel to a stock Debian one so that I can install the nvidia package. |
| 06:05.24 | SimonRaven | Estagus: also, can i see what you have for 1: in /etc/inittab ? |
| 06:05.25 | Guerin | Kovecses: things which hide informational output are rarely a good idea |
| 06:05.29 | peterS | Roey: ahh. so your hand-rolled kernel works correctly with your root on raid1 |
| 06:05.38 | Kovecses | nvidia doesnt have an installer on their webpage |
| 06:05.38 | Roey | *right&* |
| 06:05.42 | Roey | peterS: *right*, |
| 06:05.51 | peterS | Roey: in that case yaird *should* detect this situation and do the right thing. should. |
| 06:05.53 | SimonRaven | Guerin: dunno yet. |
| 06:06.01 | Roey | peterS: ok |
| 06:06.39 | peterS | Roey: as opposed to, you know, having to *tell* it you actually want root on raid, if it detects that root is not on raid at present, y'know |
| 06:06.39 | Roey | peterS: how can I open up its initrd file it made in order to see which modules it listed there? |
| 06:06.39 | Kovecses | http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html |
| 06:06.43 | peterS | Roey: ah, I was just about to answer that. it is a cpio file, so 'cpio --list < /boot/initrd.img-....' or something like that |
| 06:06.51 | SimonRaven | isn't that a loopback mount. oh |
| 06:06.58 | Estagus | SimonRaven: it in my custom made string to autorespawn snmpd daemon |
| 06:06.58 | Roey | SimonRaven: it's a cramfs mount |
| 06:07.06 | SimonRaven | i see |
| 06:07.56 | SimonRaven | Estagus: ok. means that it's starting up too fast or too often in a short period. |
| 06:07.58 | Roey | SimonRaven: how would i mount it then? |
| 06:08.10 | SimonRaven | see what peterS said |
| 06:08.21 | Roey | SimonRaven: ok |
| 06:08.27 | peterS | Roey: mkinitrd uses cramfs, yaird uses cpio |
| 06:08.34 | Roey | peterS: ahh.... |
| 06:08.36 | peterS | Roey: if the initrd image is cramfs, you aren't using yaird yet (: |
| 06:08.48 | Roey | peterS: but the resulting initd file is still called by the same name, yes? |
| 06:09.01 | SimonRaven | !info yaird |
| 06:09.05 | Roey | 02:08:21 roey file /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 |
| 06:09.05 | Roey | /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression |
| 06:09.05 | hawking | how can i extract a rar archive? |
| 06:09.08 | paulproteus | !info yaird |
| 06:09.11 | dpkg | yaird: (Yet Another mkInitRD), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.0.11-9 (sid), Packaged size: 160 kB, Installed size: 568 kB |
| 06:09.22 | Roey | SimonRaven, peterS: evidently it is. |
| 06:09.25 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 06:09.27 | Roey | it is a gzip file now |
| 06:09.35 | peterS | Roey: aha. gzip -cd /boot/initrd.whatever | cpio --list |
| 06:09.36 | Guerin | !tell hawking about unrar |
| 06:09.53 | zaplutus | When using suPHP with sarge, do you need anything else for php to work with mysql? |
| 06:09.54 | Estagus | SimonRaven: I know it.. |
| 06:09.57 | peterS | Roey: I forgot, it's actually a *gzipped* cpio file (: |
| 06:10.16 | Estagus | SimonRaven: I can not understand why snmpd died... |
| 06:10.28 | dpower | !snmpd |
| 06:10.28 | dpkg | it has been said that snmpd is Simple Network Management Protocol Daemon. you need to edit /etc/snmpd/snmpd.conf "access MyROSystem "" any noauth exact system none none", change 'system' under read to 'all' to get mrtg working. |
| 06:10.32 | peterS | Roey: as 'file -z initrd.*' will tell you (: |
| 06:10.35 | Estagus | SimonRaven: and I try to respawn it |
| 06:10.49 | Roey | lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/scsi/libata.ko |
| 06:10.50 | Roey | lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_via.ko |
| 06:10.50 | Roey | lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.ko |
| 06:10.50 | Roey | lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/scsi/sd_mod.ko |
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| 06:10.56 | dpower | FLOOD! |
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| 06:11.01 | Roey | hi |
| 06:11.04 | Roey | heh |
| 06:11.08 | Roey | so it lists all those modules |
| 06:11.09 | YaleR | anyone around who uses snort? |
| 06:11.10 | dpower | :p |
| 06:11.10 | Roey | including also: |
| 06:11.15 | SimonRaven | Estagus: i run that through cron. you can also check out 'daemon' |
| 06:11.19 | Roey | lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/md/raid1.ko |
| 06:11.21 | SimonRaven | stop asting |
| 06:11.23 | SimonRaven | p |
| 06:11.25 | Roey | OK |
| 06:11.25 | Roey | ok ok |
| 06:11.28 | peterS | Roey: yeah, the bot kicks you after 4 lines of flooding, so we didn't get to see all of that output. I trust both your sata hardware modules are in there? |
| 06:11.32 | Guerin | !anyone use snort |
| 06:11.33 | dpkg | No, no one uses snort, not even the people who use it. |
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| 06:11.41 | Roey | peterS: let me paste the output |
| 06:11.42 | Roey | one sec. |
| 06:11.47 | Roey | paste to rafb.net that is |
| 06:11.47 | YaleR | Guerin: how does that make sense? |
| 06:11.47 | peterS | Roey: not here, please |
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| 06:11.50 | peterS | right |
| 06:11.52 | Roey | ha, ha ha,I kill me |
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| 06:12.09 | peterS | Roey: no, debhelper the friendly flood bot kills you |
| 06:12.19 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 06:12.25 | Roey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/QcIMaF32.html |
| 06:12.32 | Roey | peterS: :) |
| 06:12.48 | Guerin | YaleR: how does it make sense to ask who uses something, instead of explaining what your problem is? |
| 06:13.03 | dpower | !anyone use linux |
| 06:13.04 | dpkg | No, no one uses linux, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:13.04 | Roey | peterS: how can I cat lib/modules within that archive? |
| 06:13.06 | peterS | Roey: well, I don't see sata_pdc2027x, so it seems yaird autodetection is not perfect |
| 06:13.13 | YaleR | Guerin: no problem really, just curious about some results! |
| 06:13.19 | Roey | peterS: I'm not sure there is such a module. |
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| 06:13.39 | kuroaisu | wow, I've been playing with gnome for a bit and, I amazed at just how much like OS x it can be. |
| 06:13.48 | peterS | Roey: you can extract the whole thing with 'mkdir /tmp/initrd; cd /tmp/initrd; gzip -cd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 | cpio --extract' |
| 06:14.03 | kuroaisu | I think I just killed almost all of my impetus to buy a mac |
| 06:14.03 | Roey | find /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/ -name "*sata_pdc2027x*" returns nothing |
| 06:14.07 | peterS | Roey: and yes, cpio has the least memorizable command line I know of |
| 06:14.24 | peterS | Roey: look for pata_pdc2027x, not sata_pdc2027x |
| 06:14.55 | peterS | well, I guess for someone who hasn't used it before, the tar command line is just as hard to keep track of, maybe more so. so I take back my comment on the cpio command line |
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| 06:15.00 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: the gnome folks borrowed from ideas from there. get a used one, ppc is a nice arch, imo |
| 06:15.18 | dbw | !nickometer #debian |
| 06:15.20 | dpkg | Nickometer list for #debian (11 of 47): DarKnesS_WolF (99.9159%) ;; c0llyw0bbl3s (99.9126%) ;; TasteOfD1ath, inc|fReAkY (99.84%) ;; FlimFlamMan, FrozenInInuvik, KetuaLembuLaut, Nosisab_Ken_Kele, SaneEnglishMonk, TriKster-Abacus (99.83%) ;; dbw-LAPTOP (99.73%) ;; Tallia1-KubuntuB (99.43%) ;; CcSsNET (99.22%) ;; D|G|TAL (98.78%) ;; MoDaX (98.69%) ;; y0riK_ (98.23%) ;; daEAGLEmon (98.21%). |
| 06:15.25 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: I've thought about it several times.. even just a 450 G3 blue and white.. |
| 06:15.44 | Nosisab_Ken_Kele | Hy, I keep geting 99%+ CPU overhead when I run any GL application with ATI card and ATI driver on KT600 VIA cipset (I don't know if it's a question for this chanel, but if anyone got this same problem...) |
| 06:16.01 | SimonRaven | yeh, they don't go for much nowadays, it'd be worth it. and they upgrade nicely |
| 06:16.09 | Nosisab_Ken_Kele | the mesa software drivers don't have this issue |
| 06:16.15 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: but, I can't imagine it would be that much faster than the pii 450 I'm running gnome on.. |
| 06:16.19 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: just make sure that if you do get a B&W, to get a rev b |
| 06:16.30 | SimonRaven | you'd be surprised |
| 06:17.02 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: I've also been reluctant to play with other arches after some bad times with sun hardware.. |
| 06:17.04 | Roey | peterS: by the way... I don't see any 'modules' file like in a mkinitrd.img file |
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| 06:17.24 | Roey | peterS: and regarding the pata_pdc2027x, I don'tthink I need it. Not sure. |
| 06:17.32 | Tallia1-KubuntuB | nickometer? |
| 06:17.33 | peterS | Roey: I'm not sure whether yaird has a way to override its autodetected list, or what. I have simple needs here, just a single IDE controller, and no software RAID or LVM or anything |
| 06:17.51 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: i haven't had much luck with sun sparcs either, but the ones i got were garbage finds with dead prom batteries |
| 06:17.55 | Roey | peterS: ok, so yaird has an autodetect thing going on? |
| 06:18.11 | Roey | peterS: so maybe there is no need for such a modules list file? okthen. |
| 06:18.13 | peterS | Roey: yes, it's much more clever than the one from initrd-tools, which is what you were using before |
| 06:18.14 | Roey | lemme try & reboot. |
| 06:18.18 | Roey | ok |
| 06:18.21 | Roey | lemme try rebooting. |
| 06:18.24 | peterS | roey: well, /dev/md1 is built from two drives on separate controllers. I don't know *what* controllers, since I don't know your hardware |
| 06:18.38 | Roey | peterS: both drives are connected to the same controller |
| 06:18.50 | Roey | peterS: it's the onboard sata controller that has two sata plugs. |
| 06:18.59 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: I've actually had some pretty nice ones.. The last one was a 270mhz ultrasparc.. I bought it from the irrational exuberance company I worked for when they went under |
| 06:19.07 | peterS | Roey: ahh, I wonder why the devfs addresses you pasted earlier correspond to different controllers, then. maybe the sata drivers just do that |
| 06:19.11 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: nice part about sparcs is that they have a nice OF, the later ones. apple's implementation sucks ass |
| 06:19.17 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: Actually, I bought this gnome box from them too :) |
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| 06:19.22 | Roey | proabbly I transcribed them incorrectly. |
| 06:19.24 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 06:19.29 | Roey | peterS: lemme reboot |
| 06:19.36 | peterS | Roey: yeah, let us know, as usual (: |
| 06:19.46 | Roey | peterS: thanks |
| 06:19.52 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: well, my wife has a G3 DV iMac that I'll inherit soon enough.. |
| 06:20.03 | SimonRaven | (though they did start catching up to sun OF with the newworlds, finally) |
| 06:20.08 | peterS | Kovecses: inherit? she's about to die? |
| 06:20.10 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: so, that'll probably be my dive into ppc |
| 06:20.45 | Kovecses | huh |
| 06:20.53 | SimonRaven | imacs are easy to deal with. max out the ram on it, it's worth it |
| 06:21.04 | peterS | SimonRaven: I'm so disappointed OF never made it big in the x86 world. that was one good idea. maybe if someone had written an open source implementation for x86, the bios vendors could have picked it up |
| 06:21.28 | peterS | I imagine it's the license fees for the existing implementations that prevented any of the bios vendors from caring about it |
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| 06:21.37 | SimonRaven | peterS: i know. sad really, it's so damned flexible |
| 06:21.43 | dorto | apple is also switching to intel now |
| 06:21.45 | SimonRaven | yup |
| 06:21.47 | dorto | so total domination |
| 06:22.08 | peterS | SimonRaven: of course there's always the possibility to write an OF implementation for linuxbios (: |
| 06:22.10 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: yah, if we weren't so far away from each other right now I'd have done that already.. |
| 06:22.19 | SimonRaven | dorto: still have no clue why.. |
| 06:22.37 | dorto | yep |
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| 06:22.58 | peterS | the specs are out there, just a matter of someone having enough time and skill to do the job |
| 06:23.00 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: but, I think I'm going to replace it with a laptop running gnome.. so, it will soon make the scrap pile, at which point it'll be fair game :) |
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| 06:23.05 | SimonRaven | peterS: i thought openbios was a f/oss (pardon the ass-y acronym) of OF |
| 06:23.08 | jasonb_ | hi im trying to install using dpkg -i but i get the error dpkg: status database area is locked by another process |
| 06:23.12 | jasonb_ | what could be wrong? thanks |
| 06:23.21 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: heh |
| 06:23.40 | peterS | SimonRaven: that's possible. I hadn't heard of it. anyway, as I said, the spec is open (as the name implies (: ), just a matter of doing the work |
| 06:23.43 | liable | jasonb_: you have synaptic or aptitude or something open.. |
| 06:23.45 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: who's far away? |
| 06:24.05 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: the wife. |
| 06:24.21 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: I'm in atlanta.. she's in Halifax, NS.. waiting on a visa |
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| 06:24.27 | SimonRaven | peterS: yeh, i'm not the person to do that, my future lies elsewhere |
| 06:24.48 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: oh my, poor you two, separated like that |
| 06:24.54 | zwl | hello, i am a newbie of linux, |
| 06:24.56 | SimonRaven | must be tough |
| 06:25.11 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: yah, it;s pretty crappy most of the time.. vonage helps :) |
| 06:25.17 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 06:25.21 | zwl | someone can tell me if i mant to play midi file |
| 06:25.33 | zwl | which software i can use? |
| 06:25.38 | SimonRaven | hearing her voice helps the loneliness i bet ;) |
| 06:26.04 | peterS | zwl: midi support in linux sound drivers is pretty spotty, the easiest thing is to use 'timidity' which is a pure software implementation (requires no particular midi support in the sound card or driver) |
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| 06:26.08 | SimonRaven | zwl: several can - try apt-cache search midi player |
| 06:26.13 | Roey | peterS: hi |
| 06:26.15 | Roey | peterS: ok, it worked. but: |
| 06:26.19 | peterS | but. |
| 06:26.23 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: her parents dated for liek 5 years living 600 miles apart in rural canada.. almost 30 years ago.. I can't imagine what it would be like with actual per minute charges and snail mail |
| 06:26.29 | Roey | peterS: it completely changed my md lettering scheme. |
| 06:26.41 | zwl | thanks |
| 06:26.49 | peterS | Roey: oh that's strange. changed it how? |
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| 06:27.04 | dpower | ps x |
| 06:27.17 | Roey | peterS: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mQyShA52.html |
| 06:27.19 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: holy |
| 06:27.32 | peterS | dpower: 22103 pts/12 R+ 0:00 ps x |
| 06:27.57 | dpower | :) |
| 06:28.00 | peterS | Roey: so what was your old scheme? |
| 06:28.09 | SimonRaven | oooh peterS you silly boy :) |
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| 06:28.14 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: If I had to point to one advantage.. it is pretty cool getting to go hang out with the wife in a place where cuban cigars are cheap and plentiful :) |
| 06:28.20 | dpower | 28144 pts/2 R+ 0:00 ps x |
| 06:28.21 | peterS | Roey: I mean, I should know what md1 was but I forget now |
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| 06:28.45 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: hehe |
| 06:28.50 | Roey | md1 is supposed to refer to / |
| 06:28.52 | Roey | md2 to /home |
| 06:28.57 | Roey | er |
| 06:29.03 | peterS | Roey: yeah, but which partitions? |
| 06:29.05 | Roey | flip 0 and 1. |
| 06:29.13 | Roey | peterS: /dev/md1 was /boot |
| 06:29.22 | Roey | I thnk |
| 06:29.24 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: the suspense would be palpable |
| 06:29.30 | peterS | Roey: so I guess /boot would be sda1 and sdb1 since that's the smallest? |
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| 06:29.39 | Roey | /dev/md2 / xfs |
| 06:29.41 | peterS | i.e., the present-day /dev/md0? |
| 06:29.42 | SimonRaven | waiting for the letter to arrive, hearing crackly voice... |
| 06:29.44 | Roey | /dev/md1 /boot ext3 |
| 06:29.48 | Roey | /dev/md3 /home xfs |
| 06:30.08 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: heh, yah. We've had the craziest few years together.. we've not lived in the same city yet. |
| 06:30.15 | peterS | see, that's not the question I had. the question I had was about the mapping between md* and sda* and sdb* |
| 06:30.34 | Roey | peterS: the present-day /dev/md2 stayed /dev/md2. |
| 06:30.53 | peterS | Roey: but md1 and md0 switched places? |
| 06:30.59 | Roey | peterS: yeah, here's how: |
| 06:31.09 | Roey | peterS: /dev/md3 became /dev/md1 |
| 06:31.14 | SimonRaven | oh wow. |
| 06:31.16 | Roey | peterS: /dev/md1 became /dev/md0 |
| 06:31.26 | Roey | so everything moved back a letter is it? |
| 06:31.27 | Roey | er |
| 06:31.28 | Roey | a number |
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| 06:31.52 | peterS | Roey: I bet this is a matter of kernel raid autodetection, which you were using before, vs. autodetection using 'mdadm', which you are using now |
| 06:32.06 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: i get the feeling that you two have a bond, if you don't mind me saying so. |
| 06:32.13 | Roey | peterS: I don't know anymore :( |
| 06:32.20 | Roey | peterS: I don't understand why it's doing this still. |
| 06:32.25 | peterS | Roey: mdadm is considered the superior solution, for various reasons, but in any case kernel raid autodetection doesn't work if 'md' and 'raid1' are modules as opposed to built-in |
| 06:33.10 | Roey | peterS: also, I lost a few other things in the process: (1) I can't mount my media drive in /media. Not a valid block device, it says. |
| 06:33.10 | kuroaisu | SimonRaven: yah, we both pretty much found the lid to our respective pot |
| 06:33.16 | peterS | Roey: each raid partition has a superblock which contains, among many other things, its md "number" (the device minor number, specifically). it may be that mdadm ignores this in favor of sequential numbering from md0 |
| 06:33.22 | Roey | peterS: I think that was the pata_202* module you were referring to |
| 06:33.23 | Roey | peterS: ok |
| 06:33.50 | dorto | where can i download a bunch of wallpapers for debian? :P |
| 06:34.05 | dorto | (if the wallpapers give a feel of debian, then that would be nice) |
| 06:34.18 | peterS | Roey: so, yaird correctly arranges for the root filesystem to be /dev/md2 built from sda2 and sdb2. however, it probably doesn't bother to set up the other raid devices. then during the normal boot, after the initrd has finished its work and the normal boot process is going, mdadm sets up the rest of your raid partitions, since nobody has done so yet |
| 06:34.24 | dorto | and themes... |
| 06:34.28 | SimonRaven | kuroaisu: sounds like it. good for you |
| 06:34.46 | peterS | Roey: you can override the mapping of these things in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 06:34.51 | Roey | ok |
| 06:35.16 | Roey | peterS: mine is empty |
| 06:35.20 | peterS | Roey: anyway, with your previous kernel, I bet mdadm wasn't doing anything to start up the arrays, since the kernel raid autodetection had already done so |
| 06:35.27 | Roey | peterS: that's right. |
| 06:35.28 | peterS | Roey: well, 'man mdadm.conf' for details |
| 06:35.32 | Roey | peterS: thanks. |
| 06:35.45 | Roey | peterS: now, what to do about this hard drive I can't mount? |
| 06:36.15 | peterS | Roey: you'll need to find a module corresponding to that hardware. I don't see one in the standard kernels. I don't know where you got yours originally. |
| 06:36.39 | Roey | one second. |
| 06:37.51 | dorto | any application in debian that can be used to capture a part of the screen? |
| 06:38.02 | peterS | dorto: in X or in a text console? |
| 06:38.09 | dorto | or capture the active window/whole screen and crop in gimp? |
| 06:38.15 | dorto | peterS: X |
| 06:38.47 | dorto | there is such a tool for text console too? o.0 |
| 06:39.07 | peterS | dorto: so in X. several possibilities. I think if you have xbase-clients installed, that's all you need for the gimp's own capture thing |
| 06:39.40 | peterS | dorto: in a text console, I wrote a program for this purpose, which even recreates colors using ANSI escapes: http://p12n.org/hacks/#screendump |
| 06:39.54 | peterS | it doesn't capture pixels, just characters |
| 06:40.24 | peterS | and it doesn't recreate line-drawing characters, but it does handle colors and attributes such as boldface quite nicely |
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| 06:40.36 | peterS | you can view the output text files using 'less -r' |
| 06:40.47 | SimonRaven | g'night all. be good to each other |
| 06:40.54 | peterS | oh, we're never *that* |
| 06:41.57 | peterS | it's not even all saints' day yet. don't dream of christmas yet |
| 06:42.08 | dorto | terrific peterS!! |
| 06:42.22 | Dasnipa` | preferrable good looking |
| 06:42.28 | Dasnipa` | ;) |
| 06:42.39 | peterS | dorto: did you find the gimp's capture menu? it's a menu option but I forget where it is |
| 06:43.07 | kuroaisu | ls |
| 06:43.10 | kuroaisu | ls |
| 06:43.11 | scruffy | streuner: they should rename it to Debtmas |
| 06:43.34 | peterS | kuroaisu: . .. pr0n README.txt |
| 06:43.35 | dorto | peterS: i got more interested in screendump and was looking at it :P |
| 06:43.42 | peterS | ah, heh |
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| 06:43.49 | scruffy | streuner: as in, "Pour me another bourbon, it's Debtmas Eve". |
| 06:44.00 | paivakil | peterS: dorto under the file menu |
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| 06:44.07 | peterS | dorto: it's a quick hack, but I needed it at some point |
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| 06:46.19 | dorto | i was able to do the capturing using GIMP; what more, its supporting both full screen captures and our own selections :) |
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| 06:48.22 | peterS | dorto: right, I think the gimp uses /usr/bin/X11/xwd for its capturing backend, and you have that installed because it is part of xbase-clients |
| 06:48.36 | Roey | peterS: er.. I think I compiled into my previous kernel what was necessary |
| 06:49.05 | peterS | Roey: what do you mean? the pdc2027x driver, you mean? |
| 06:49.06 | Roey | peterS: I scoured /lib/modules/linux-2.6.12-*/* looking for anything resembling disk drivers |
| 06:49.24 | Roey | peterS: right. I loaded it with modprobe. THen I tried mounting the disk, but it still says invaldi block driver. |
| 06:49.29 | Roey | er |
| 06:49.32 | Roey | invalid block device |
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| 06:50.15 | peterS | Roey: so what does this tell you? lspci -n | awk '/ 010/{print $3}' |
| 06:50.27 | mely | cvc |
| 06:50.43 | peterS | Roey: should be a couple sets of xxxx:yyyy numbers, one will be 1106:nnnn, the other will be 105a:nnnn |
| 06:51.15 | Roey | 1106:3149 |
| 06:51.15 | Roey | 1106:0571 |
| 06:51.25 | dorto | peterS: i see. i tested screendump and its working great. now i can create demos of my program runs for my tutorials so easily :) |
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| 06:52.09 | peterS | Roey: ahh, those are for your motherboard IDE and SATA chips. nothing more for the Promise card? |
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| 06:52.37 | peterS | dorto: heh, probably easier to run them in an xterm and capture with the gimp |
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| 06:52.48 | Roey | peterS: I don't know; how can I check? |
| 06:53.00 | Roey | peterS: btw that media drive is a PATA drive. |
| 06:53.08 | Roey | peterS: connected to the PATA controller |
| 06:53.23 | peterS | Roey: so are you sure you have a Promise controller? because you *do* have a VIA IDE controller on your motherboard |
| 06:53.25 | zaplutus | does anyone know why mysql breaks with suphp? |
| 06:53.42 | Roey | it's connected to the motherboard.. but then again that promise controller is also 'on' the motherboard. |
| 06:54.09 | Roey | peterS: lessee what drivers handle the sata raptors? |
| 06:54.19 | Roey | peterS: becuase if it's not via, it's promise. |
| 06:54.29 | dorto | peterS: that would save it as image no? using screendump i redirected to a txt file and atleast its working well with simple characters. |
| 06:54.31 | peterS | Roey: you're sure? then I wonder why lspci does not list anything made by promise |
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| 06:55.03 | Roey | http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=K8T_Neo-FIS2R |
| 06:55.05 | peterS | dorto: right, that'll work. I thought you meant as screenshots to include in a manual. well, either way, you know what both programs do. 'screendump' does not work with xterms, btw, only text consoles |
| 06:55.17 | Roey | Serial ATA RAID 0, 1 (VIA VT8237) |
| 06:55.25 | Roey | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.51 | dorto | peterS: i used it in terminal emulator. what is an xterm? |
| 06:55.53 | peterS | Roey: does 'lspci' in fact list the Promise chip, then? |
| 06:56.08 | peterS | dorto: I mean it will only capture a Linux text console, it won't capture a graphical console |
| 06:56.41 | dorto | oh |
| 06:56.48 | Roey | peterS: I see no 'omise' in that entire output. |
| 06:56.53 | Roey | peterS: just via. |
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| 06:57.31 | peterS | Roey: then either the kernel is screwed up so it doesn't correctly talk to all the PCI bridges or something ... or the Promise chip is somehow disabled in your BIOS ... or you don't actually have a motherboard with a Promise chip on it |
| 06:58.08 | halifax | hello, i am searching for dvd burner, is there anybody who can say me which one i shout sell? i will using it with debian |
| 06:58.09 | peterS | Roey: you can always open up your case and look for a chip that says "Promise" or "PDC" on it |
| 07:00.01 | tictac | halifax: liteon makes the best optical drives, imho. |
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| 07:02.19 | dorto | can we drag the top panel of gnome using keyboard + mouse? |
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| 07:02.30 | dorto | or just the keyboard? |
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| 07:03.22 | Roey | peterS: ok |
| 07:03.24 | Roey | peterS: got it |
| 07:03.30 | Roey | peterS: they're all connected to the via |
| 07:03.38 | Roey | peterS: the via controller has 2x SATA and 2x PATA |
| 07:03.49 | Roey | peterS: I have the CD and the /media drive on the PATA ports |
| 07:03.52 | peterS | Roey: so, the 'via82cxxx' IDE module is what you need |
| 07:04.05 | peterS | Roey: this doesn't need to go in the initrd, of course, since it's not used to get to your root filesystem |
| 07:04.17 | zaplutus | just so everyone knows, if you install suPHP you need to use php-cgi and make sure you edit your cgi/php.ini to work with mysql |
| 07:04.18 | zaplutus | :) |
| 07:04.18 | irevernetReveren | silly question... if a device (say a wireless card) has functional linux drivers for x86 (say orinoco gold) if i were to install debian on a PPC (say a mac laptop) would the same kernel modules work? |
| 07:04.30 | Roey | peterS: but I've already tried loading it with modprobe, and still the mount command doesn't work |
| 07:04.36 | irevernetReveren | i would asseme so, but yo unever know |
| 07:04.56 | peterS | irevernetReveren: not enough information to answer that one. depends on how the drivers are distributed, as source code or as binary code or both |
| 07:05.20 | Roey | peterS: it's like.. I can't see any /dev/hdX at all |
| 07:05.26 | irevernetReveren | peterS i would be using the kernel modules to support the ornioco chipset |
| 07:05.36 | peterS | Roey: oh yeah, you might also need to 'modprobe ide-disk' |
| 07:05.42 | dli | peterS: even as source, there might be assembly inside? |
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| 07:06.05 | peterS | Roey: and 'modprobe generic', that one is pretty unintuitive |
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| 07:06.14 | peterS | (and I'm not sure if it's necessary) |
| 07:06.26 | peterS | Roey: also 'modprobe ide-cd' if you want to use your CDROM drive |
| 07:06.42 | peterS | dli: could be. that's not usually a problem for mere device drivers, but you never know |
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| 07:07.01 | Roey | peterS: er |
| 07:07.11 | Roey | peterS: the thing that worked was modprobe ide-generic |
| 07:07.17 | Roey | peterS: I hoep that doesn't screw with libata. |
| 07:07.38 | JosephSpiros | hmm, is there a simple way to restore a system to a particular list of packages? that is, so that all packages not listed are removed, and all packages that are listed, and don't exist, are installed? |
| 07:07.40 | peterS | Roey: it shouldn't. I keep forgetting the distinction between 'ide-generic' and 'generic'. |
| 07:07.51 | peterS | Roey: confusing names. I know what the two do, and I think they're both misnamed (: |
| 07:07.57 | Roey | peterS: :) |
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| 07:08.25 | dilku | is it possible to create a keyboard layout ? |
| 07:08.45 | peterS | irevernetReveren: orinoco cards should be supported on all architectures, I'm pretty sure |
| 07:08.59 | peterS | irevernetReveren: same is not true of *all* wireless chipsets, though |
| 07:09.44 | peterS | dilku: doing it "right" is not easy. you can use 'xkeycaps' but that is something of a hack |
| 07:09.59 | dli | streuner: your end is Chinese enabled? or just my xchat? |
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| 07:10.16 | Roey | peterS: PLUS, jeff garzick STILL hasn't incorporated the temperature sensor enabler patch into the mainline kernel. |
| 07:10.32 | Roey | peterS: so to enable the sensor, and to enable my Wacom tablet, I'll still have to recompile the kernel. |
| 07:10.39 | peterS | Roey: libata development seems to be a bit erratic. we hear nothing for a long time then there's a big update |
| 07:10.41 | irevernetReveren | peterS thank you, since the Airport extreme wont work, i needed to see if my other card would before i try out ppc linux |
| 07:11.03 | streuner | dli: heh? no, iam german |
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| 07:11.29 | Roey | peterS: and that update changes device letters and all that |
| 07:11.29 | Roey | peterS: it's one of the things I don't liek about linux |
| 07:11.34 | Roey | peterS: they play fast and loose with that stuff. |
| 07:11.46 | dli | streuner: my xchat shows "changing name" in chinese, interesting |
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| 07:12.16 | peterS | Roey: there will be at least one more device renaming in the libata future, I believe. moving from being scsi-based to being block-device-based. it'll be nice for libata not to have to pretend to be scsi, but it *will* force /dev/sda to become /dev/somethingelse |
| 07:12.38 | JosephSpiros | I have list of packages I'd like to have on the system, from dpkg --get-selections |
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| 07:12.54 | JosephSpiros | but unfortunately --set-selections + dselect-upgrade doesn't seem to remove all pacakges /not/ listed |
| 07:12.58 | JosephSpiros | and I'd like behavior like that |
| 07:13.21 | JosephSpiros | is there perhaps a line I can add to the list from --get-selections that means "and remove everything else" |
| 07:13.24 | JosephSpiros | ? |
| 07:13.34 | Roey | peterS: right.. /dev/hdx |
| 07:13.36 | peterS | JosephSpiros: I think you have to script it. you can 'dpkg --get-selections' on the target machine, replace 'install' with 'remove', then add the list you already have, and 'dpkg --set-selections' all of it |
| 07:14.10 | peterS | JosephSpiros: well, by 'remove' I really mean 'deinstall' |
| 07:14.13 | Roey | peterS: i think i'll just buy that escalade card; it'll pretend it's a scsi device to the linux kernel |
| 07:14.28 | peterS | Roey: I've heard lots of good things about 3ware, indeed |
| 07:14.32 | JosephSpiros | peterS: mm, that's a good idea, I'll try that :-) |
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| 07:15.10 | dli | Roey: I use intel ipw2200, well supported up to now |
| 07:15.15 | peterS | JosephSpiros: something like: (dpkg --get-selections | sed 's/ install/ deinstall/'; cat /tmp/other-selections) | dpkg --set-selections |
| 07:15.21 | Roey | dli: that's a raid controller? |
| 07:15.22 | nuck | guys when youre downloading then you install using dpkg then it says there some dependencies missing and you go on until you exhaust the dependency tree of the package is there an easier way to do this? |
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| 07:15.42 | dli | Roey: sorry, I mistook you with the guy talking about wireless |
| 07:15.43 | peterS | nuck: dpkg --unpack filename.deb; aptitude -f install |
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| 07:15.57 | Roey | dli: oh, ok |
| 07:16.01 | peterS | dli: nah, the 3ware escalade series is IDE / SATA hardware RAID |
| 07:16.14 | peterS | dli: (older models use IDE drives, newer models use SATA drives) |
| 07:16.27 | nuck | peterS the command you suggested, that will automatically download all the dependencies from the web? |
| 07:16.49 | peterS | nuck: that's what "aptitude -f install" does, yes |
| 07:17.21 | peterS | nuck: the 'dpkg --unpack filename.deb' is like 'dpkg --install filename.deb' except that it doesn't complain about dependencies since it does not actually need them at the unpack stage |
| 07:17.41 | JosephSpiros | peterS: yep, I did something similar, though since I'm unfamiliar with sed I used nano. thanks for the idea, that worked great :) |
| 07:17.49 | peterS | heh, no problem |
| 07:17.54 | peterS | I'm glad it worked, I've never tried that myself |
| 07:18.03 | nuck | cool thanks |
| 07:18.33 | peterS | nuck: I picked up that trick watching a video of a talk by the dpkg maintainer himself. so I know it's a legitimate method (: |
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| 07:19.40 | dli | peterS aptitude should include this function |
| 07:20.06 | peterS | dli: the RPM port of apt-get does include this function. nobody in the debian world has added it to the main apt, though |
| 07:20.23 | peterS | the RPM port, meaning, the one Conectiva did |
| 07:21.03 | dli | peterS: right, because debian doesn't encourage users to install from downloaded .deb ? |
| 07:21.22 | peterS | dli: I don't know why there has been no interest in this. it would be handy in a number of situations |
| 07:21.41 | peterS | dli: I work around it just fine using the 'dpkg --unpack' trick, but that *is* just a workaround |
| 07:22.09 | peterS | dli: the thing is, the implementation would require putting logic into apt to open up a .deb file and parse it. apt currently doesn't have to do this |
| 07:22.20 | dli | peterS I used apt-get in redhat for long, but eventually, fedora became too buggy, I just reinstalled all with real debian |
| 07:22.30 | peterS | heh |
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| 07:27.20 | bboett | hello! having trouble with cups... seems i can't print from one machine ot the other.... i have activated browsing, the printer appears on my laptop, but prnting gives me only: Unable to get printer status (client error forbidden) |
| 07:27.39 | bboett | i added 192.168.0.* to the different Localisations.... |
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| 07:28.03 | dilku | My friends are now Pl to move from Debian to FC basically they want to USE better uptodate Packages like OpenOffice 2. |
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| 07:28.58 | bboett | dilku, ooo2 is in unstable... |
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| 07:29.24 | dilku | How can I install that to my Sarge box ? |
| 07:30.26 | streuner | !backports |
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| 07:31.19 | streuner | !backport |
| 07:31.20 | dpkg | backport is, like, a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 07:31.49 | nuck | peterS when i tried your suggestion of dpkg --unpack followed by aptitude i got to the point where the install process was asking me if i would like to continue to download some 100+ MB of files... it has happened before and used up my internet quota |
| 07:32.13 | nuck | is there a way/option so that it will only download whats relevant to the package im intalling? |
| 07:32.35 | peterS | nuck: aptitude -f install *does* only download what is relevant, and what you have previously selected for installing / upgrading |
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| 07:32.54 | dilku | Or can I them to use the unstable version ? |
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| 07:33.54 | nuck | ok thanks maybe i should continue the install then... i stopped because its happened before and used up my quota and since its weekened i cant afford to use it up cuz offices are closed |
| 07:34.02 | nuck | thanks btw for the suggestions |
| 07:34.09 | peterS | nuck: if you follow unstable, downloading 100 MB in order to pull in a package update is not really unusual. if you have a small internet quota, you probably want to use sarge |
| 07:34.13 | nuck | hafta go now for dinner |
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| 07:34.37 | nuck | ok ill try that again later... thanks again |
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| 07:34.58 | Kovecses | how do i check my refresh rate |
| 07:34.59 | dilku | How can I install the unstable branch in my Sarge box .. |
| 07:35.26 | peterS | Kovecses: 'xvidtune -show' will show it |
| 07:35.33 | Kovecses | ty |
| 07:35.46 | peterS | Kovecses: though, hmm, you have to interpret the numbers. you might want to just run 'xvidtune' without -show, so it will calculate it for you |
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| 07:36.03 | Roey | peterS: do you knwo anything about nvidia on debian-amd64? |
| 07:36.09 | Roey | they ones on that chan are al asleep |
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| 07:36.59 | peterS | Roey: I guess most nvidia hardware is supported on debian-amd64. don't know about their video cards with the proprietary drivers, but pretty much anything *except* video will work fine |
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| 07:37.10 | Roey | peterS: ok :) |
| 07:37.30 | peterS | Roey: you have a VIA motherboard, not a NV motherboard, so I guess you're asking about a video card specifically |
| 07:37.34 | Roey | peterS: well instructions are given very clearly in their HOWTO; I just wanted someone to hold my handthrough it. |
| 07:37.39 | Roey | peterS: that's right |
| 07:37.54 | peterS | yeah, I haven't tried it. I don't have a NV card new enough to care about this |
| 07:38.13 | dilku | is it a good idea to install the unstable branch for as My Desktop machine ? |
| 07:38.14 | pacman | xvidtune -show|awk '{print $2*1000000/$6/$10}' |
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| 07:38.32 | peterS | pacman: heh, yeah |
| 07:39.02 | peterS | I thought about telling him which numbers to multiply/divide but didn't think to provide a shell command |
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| 07:40.49 | peterS | unfortunately xvidtune throws an extra newline in there which makes awk sad |
| 07:41.19 | pacman | awk '/./{ ... }' |
| 07:41.22 | Roey | heh |
| 07:41.24 | Roey | peterS: ok |
| 07:41.30 | Roey | peterS: anyhow, I'm going to sleep |
| 07:41.39 | Roey | peterS: good night, and thank you *very* much |
| 07:41.46 | peterS | pacman: or {...; exit} |
| 07:41.51 | peterS | Roey: 'night |
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| 07:42.44 | yzrider088 | whenever my internet goes down, my linux box doesnt automatically reconnect to internet, how can i make it do this |
| 07:43.00 | peterS | yzrider088: make sure you have the right 'auto' line or lines in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:43.20 | peterS | yzrider088: corresponding to the interface names you use to connect to the internet, such as eth0 or ppp |
| 07:43.51 | yzrider088 | ya i do |
| 07:44.43 | peterS | yzrider088: could be lots of things then. what steps do you have to take to bring your internet connection back up manually, then? |
| 07:45.08 | bboett | hmmm nobody knows how to setup a working network ocnfiguration of cups?.... hmmm maybe someone knows how i can purge my system from all references to the letter pageformat? |
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| 07:45.35 | yzrider088 | /etc/init.d/networking start |
| 07:45.36 | yzrider088 | i think^ |
| 07:45.43 | ram_einstein | just installed debian sarge, failed to startx |
| 07:45.50 | ram_einstein | fatal error: no screens found |
| 07:46.04 | ram_einstein | what does it mean and what do I do to fix it? |
| 07:46.25 | bboett | ram_einstein, look a bit ahead of that message... |
| 07:46.31 | yzrider088 | yeah but problem is it assigns new ip each time |
| 07:47.02 | peterS | yzrider088: the main idea that comes to mind is that your module loading isn't synchronous enough to bring up your network card by the time it is needed. you can blame the 2.6 kernel maintainers for a conscious design choice that caused this. the workaround is to list your network card driver explicitly in /etc/modules |
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| 07:47.13 | peterS | yzrider088: ...not that this *necessarily* works, it is just *likely* to work |
| 07:47.20 | ram_einstein | XIO: fatail IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 07:47.43 | ram_einstein | after 0 requests (0 known processedO with 0 events remaining |
| 07:48.00 | bboett | ram_einstein, there is surely some error ahead of that.... |
| 07:48.10 | ram_einstein | before that |
| 07:48.14 | valdyn | yzrider088: the IP you are getting is given to you by your ISP, if its changing, then that's your ISP doing that. |
| 07:48.21 | goron | I am looking for a program that executes a command on a certain event. I think it was written in Perl, but if you know any other version, that would be fine too. |
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| 07:48.31 | CcSsNET | ram_einstein copy it all to here like roughly 15-20 lines |
| 07:48.33 | CcSsNET | do it 5 at a time |
| 07:48.38 | valdyn | goron: on which event? |
| 07:48.40 | goron | And an event is than e.g. the saving of a file. |
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| 07:49.02 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, I'm on a laptop now and just looking at the screen |
| 07:49.10 | CcSsNET | ah |
| 07:49.10 | h4mm3r` | ? |
| 07:49.11 | ram_einstein | I'll have to type off the screen |
| 07:49.37 | goron | valdyn: When I save a file, I want to throw it though an interpreter and then I want to render the file in a previewer. |
| 07:49.37 | ram_einstein | Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib....".... |
| 07:49.40 | bboett | CcSsNET, ram_einstein please use a pastebot |
| 07:49.47 | ram_einstein | Unable to find a valid framebuffer |
| 07:49.53 | valdyn | goron: save that file in what? |
| 07:49.57 | valdyn | goron: vim? emacs? |
| 07:50.02 | goron | valdyn: emacs |
| 07:50.08 | bboett | ram_einstein, startx |tee log and file the log to a pastebot... |
| 07:50.22 | CcSsNET | pastebin.com maybe? |
| 07:50.25 | valdyn | goron: that's probably written in lisp then |
| 07:50.35 | CcSsNET | i was only sugesting dought ill know the prob |
| 07:50.48 | goron | valdyn: No, it works on the file level. |
| 07:50.57 | ram_einstein | bboett, that character| doesn't work on the keyboard |
| 07:51.02 | goron | valdyn: It gets a message from the OS, when you change something. |
| 07:51.02 | ram_einstein | it's mapped wrongly |
| 07:51.12 | ram_einstein | way too many things are wrong |
| 07:51.19 | bboett | :D you need to find it.... |
| 07:51.24 | goron | valdyn: I only forgot how it's called. |
| 07:51.35 | ram_einstein | bboett, amusing |
| 07:51.43 | bboett | paste it with the mouse..... |
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| 07:52.30 | ram_einstein | bboett, x hasn't started! how do I paste? |
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| 07:52.34 | ram_einstein | it's a console screen |
| 07:52.47 | ram_einstein | the error is that it can't startx |
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| 07:53.03 | ram_einstein | I'm on a laptop sitting beside the desktop in question and typing all this now |
| 07:53.29 | ram_einstein | I'll try to type out the (atleast what I think is) relevant part |
| 07:53.38 | bboett | ram_einstein, even under console with gpm you are able ot have mouse actions.... |
| 07:53.58 | ram_einstein | bboett, no |
| 07:54.00 | ram_einstein | no mouse |
| 07:54.08 | bboett | apt-get install gpm |
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| 07:55.05 | valdyn | goron: dnotify ? |
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| 07:55.14 | ram_einstein | bboett, "Do you want to start or restart GPM while X is running?" |
| 07:55.41 | ram_einstein | yes or no? |
| 07:55.47 | bboett | as you stated X isn't running in your case... |
| 07:55.52 | JosephSpiros | Hmm |
| 07:55.57 | ram_einstein | bboett, it isn't! |
| 07:55.58 | JosephSpiros | what's /nonexistent all about? |
| 07:56.06 | bboett | then its ok to restart gpm :D |
| 07:56.08 | ram_einstein | I dunno how that came up |
| 07:56.43 | pacman | maybe it is already running, and that's the problem... |
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| 07:56.49 | ram_einstein | nope gpm didn't start |
| 07:56.58 | deconvolution | hi, i just add a new partition to my server, but /dev/ doesnt generate its device file, which init.d script of debian is to rescan disk and make new harddisk device file? |
| 07:57.07 | ram_einstein | pacman, then why can I only see a console window in front of me? |
| 07:57.09 | bboett | dpkg-reconfigure gpm |
| 07:57.16 | Horde | hey is there a alcohol 120% application for debian? or anything like it? |
| 07:57.17 | valdyn | deconvolution: is any partition on that disk mounted? |
| 07:57.24 | bbrazil | JosephSpiros: it doesn't exist. I've seen it on Solaris as homedirs for system user, but not on Debian |
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| 07:57.32 | ioda | hi, i have a problem, the xmms appears in a very small window, the fonts can'tbe readed because they are too small, i look for the reason, but i didn't find anything about this, can anybofy find me ? |
| 07:57.39 | deconvolution | valdyn: yeap |
| 07:57.47 | ram_einstein | okay bboett, tell me what to do |
| 07:57.49 | JosephSpiros | bbrazil: it exists on all of my etch systems :) |
| 07:57.50 | valdyn | deconvolution: then you cannot rescan the partition table |
| 07:57.54 | JosephSpiros | bbrazil: and I didn't put it there :p |
| 07:58.05 | ram_einstein | or forget the mouse, I think I know what the problem is |
| 07:58.06 | JoshTriplett | Horde: Which function are you interested in? |
| 07:58.07 | deconvolution | valdyn: so i have to reboot to active that partition? |
| 07:58.20 | JoshTriplett | Horde: For CD burning, there are a number of programs; I use K3b. |
| 07:58.26 | bboett | ram_einstein, you need ot set up a working gpm.... thus dpkg-reconfigure gpm |
| 07:58.26 | JosephSpiros | bbrazil: it's in /etc/passwd as nobody's home |
| 07:58.28 | CcSsNET | Horde if you find a cd iso emulator like that for linux let me know |
| 07:58.28 | valdyn | deconvolution: no, to umount every partition on that disk |
| 07:58.30 | ram_einstein | it's the part where I had to select the video display or something (not monitor) |
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| 07:58.37 | Horde | lol yeah thats what im looking for |
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| 07:58.41 | ram_einstein | bboett, okay, I did that |
| 07:58.43 | JosephSpiros | bbrazil: so I guess I just answered my own question :) |
| 07:58.45 | Horde | the iso emulator part |
| 07:58.47 | JoshTriplett | Horde, CcSsNET: For "virtual CD" drives, just remember that you can mount an ISO image as a file. |
| 07:58.50 | deconvolution | valdyn: it is a system disk |
| 07:58.51 | ram_einstein | it again walks me through this |
| 07:58.59 | ram_einstein | you have to tell me what to do |
| 07:59.04 | bboett | does the mouse works now? |
| 07:59.05 | CcSsNET | ahhh joshtiplett never thought of that |
| 07:59.11 | JoshTriplett | Horde, CcSsNET: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mnt |
| 07:59.17 | CcSsNET | hehe nice |
| 07:59.18 | ram_einstein | bboett, it gives me lots of options |
| 07:59.20 | ram_einstein | to reconfigure |
| 07:59.27 | ram_einstein | just keep pressing enter? |
| 07:59.35 | valdyn | ioda: xmms uses whatever fonts gtk uses |
| 07:59.42 | bboett | until you get your mouse working |
| 07:59.48 | ram_einstein | which mouse device? |
| 07:59.49 | Horde | coolio cheer josh |
| 07:59.53 | Horde | cheers* |
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| 07:59.58 | JoshTriplett | Horde: No problem. |
| 07:59.59 | dacer | hi, please help with a nvidia driver problem (I can't access nvidia forum so i have to ask here, sorry) |
| 08:00.01 | ram_einstein | bboett, I don't know what to type! |
| 08:00.08 | ram_einstein | /dev/psaux? |
| 08:00.10 | bboett | depends on your mouse.... ram_einstein .... usb mouse? serial mouse? wheel mouse? |
| 08:00.13 | ram_einstein | it's a ps mouse |
| 08:00.17 | ioda | valdyn i'm in kde. where can i change gtk fonts? |
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| 08:00.21 | valdyn | ioda: though, in its (skinned) gui you can change that font from inside xmms |
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| 08:00.26 | bboett | then /dev/psaux is the port... |
| 08:00.27 | ram_einstein | not usb, serial |
| 08:00.30 | valdyn | ioda: the menus are gtk |
| 08:00.32 | bboett | 3 button mouse? wheel mouse? |
| 08:00.34 | ram_einstein | fine |
| 08:00.39 | ram_einstein | 3 button wheel |
| 08:00.42 | dacer | when try to install driver, always says that kernel was build with gcc 3.4 and 4.0 is installed |
| 08:00.46 | ram_einstein | what type? |
| 08:00.46 | dacer | how to solve? |
| 08:00.50 | bboett | ok type intellimouse then probably... |
| 08:00.50 | ram_einstein | autops2? |
| 08:00.50 | ioda | vaaldy tanks |
| 08:00.58 | ioda | valdyn thanks xD |
| 08:01.03 | dacer | without removing 4.0 |
| 08:01.09 | ram_einstein | type of mouse: intellimouse |
| 08:01.13 | ram_einstein | okay |
| 08:01.15 | bboett | autops could do the job though :D |
| 08:01.27 | Horde | hang on whats the package ccssnet comes in? |
| 08:01.29 | ram_einstein | how resposive? |
| 08:01.34 | bboett | default... |
| 08:01.39 | ram_einstein | 15 |
| 08:01.56 | ram_einstein | what protocol? |
| 08:01.59 | ram_einstein | ms3? |
| 08:02.11 | ram_einstein | to repeat mouse events |
| 08:02.14 | ram_einstein | or none? |
| 08:02.28 | bboett | hmmm :D don't know that one... |
| 08:02.43 | ram_einstein | none then |
| 08:02.46 | bboett | try one and see |
| 08:02.46 | ram_einstein | sample rate? |
| 08:02.49 | bboett | default |
| 08:03.03 | ram_einstein | why the hell are there so many options and no mouse!? |
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| 08:03.15 | JoshTriplett | Horde: Pardon? |
| 08:03.24 | ram_einstein | bboett, no suggestions |
| 08:03.31 | ram_einstein | just a prompt |
| 08:03.33 | Horde | CcSsNET, is it in a package? |
| 08:03.38 | ram_einstein | I'll leave it blank |
| 08:03.42 | CcSsNET | horde is what in a package? |
| 08:03.50 | valdyn | !mouse 2.6 |
| 08:03.50 | dpkg | from memory, mouse 2.6 is see: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2199 |
| 08:03.52 | ram_einstein | failed |
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| 08:04.07 | Horde | ok what is CcSsNET? |
| 08:04.12 | CcSsNET | lol |
| 08:04.14 | ram_einstein | invoke-rc.d: initscript gpm, action "restart" failed |
| 08:04.19 | CcSsNET | its my nic |
| 08:04.23 | CcSsNET | also this |
| 08:04.26 | CcSsNET | CcSsNET's Grid Stats: |
| 08:04.26 | CcSsNET | Cluster Name: CcSsNET | CPU's 1024 EM64T proccesors @ 3.40 ghz | OS: Rocks Cluster 4.0.0 | Peak Performance: 6589.2 G FLOPS | Uptime/Users: |
| 08:04.26 | CcSsNET | 04:03:42 up 3 days, 15:24, 2 users, load average: 1.03, 1.03, 1.00 |
| 08:04.26 | CcSsNET | USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT |
| 08:04.26 | CcSsNET | ccssnet pts/1 70.109.158.12:S. Fri08 0.00s 51:39 51:38 naim |
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| 08:04.26 | Horde | ugh |
| 08:04.28 | bboett | hmmmm strange... |
| 08:04.28 | Horde | nvm |
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| 08:04.31 | Horde | then |
| 08:04.39 | CcSsNET | buuuuutttt |
| 08:04.44 | CcSsNET | looks like i got kicked |
| 08:04.52 | CcSsNET | so who knows if you seen the 6 lines |
| 08:04.56 | CcSsNET | that i had show up |
| 08:05.27 | CcSsNET | horde pm |
| 08:05.32 | ram_einstein | hey, it looks like something's working |
| 08:05.33 | Horde | alright, is there an iso extracting program? |
| 08:05.37 | Horde | for debian? |
| 08:05.42 | ram_einstein | it's stuck on my top bar |
| 08:05.53 | ram_einstein | the mouse is stuck on my top bar |
| 08:05.57 | JoshTriplett | Horde: Did you read the command that I posted? |
| 08:05.59 | valdyn | Horde: what would be 'extracting' and iso? |
| 08:06.02 | ram_einstein | I specified autops2 this time |
| 08:06.11 | JoshTriplett | Horde: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mnt |
| 08:06.25 | Horde | yeah, but i want to get the iso from a cd |
| 08:06.30 | bboett | ram_einstein, wrong mouse protocol |
| 08:06.32 | JoshTriplett | Horde: Ah, I see. |
| 08:06.38 | valdyn | Horde: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso |
| 08:06.39 | ram_einstein | bboett, it's doing something wierf |
| 08:06.54 | bboett | yep need to try another mouse protocol |
| 08:07.05 | CcSsNET | hmmmm |
| 08:07.12 | ram_einstein | bboett, I said none! |
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| 08:07.34 | ram_einstein | repeater protocol? I don't even know what that is! |
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| 08:07.48 | bboett | nope that's more a problem with the mouse type protocol |
| 08:08.00 | Horde | ok ima write them down |
| 08:08.05 | pacman | tell us what you DO know, it'll be faster than listing all the things you don't |
| 08:08.07 | bboett | seems you have no intellimouse compatible mouse |
| 08:08.22 | nuck | anyone familiar with ldap browser? how do i run it from command line? thanks |
| 08:08.36 | CcSsNET | man ldap? |
| 08:08.38 | ram_einstein | I think I'm blessed with reasonable intellignce and I run Fedora Core 4 just fine, no million options, just autodetect |
| 08:08.46 | CcSsNET | or google ldap howto? |
| 08:08.58 | ram_einstein | bboett, that is so silly, I even run windoze with this mouse |
| 08:09.08 | ram_einstein | how come deb is so hard!? |
| 08:09.22 | CcSsNET | cuz its for the experienced and truthfully |
| 08:09.23 | nvz | dpkg, be debian barbie |
| 08:09.24 | dpkg | Debian's install is hard! |
| 08:09.26 | CcSsNET | its not that harde |
| 08:09.33 | CcSsNET | hard* |
| 08:09.46 | ram_einstein | dpkg, it's extremely hard |
| 08:09.49 | CcSsNET | try slack or gentoo :) |
| 08:09.55 | nvz | well I dont know about the rest of you, but now that I got that party out of the way, I am ready to sleep |
| 08:09.59 | ram_einstein | same to you CcSsNET |
| 08:10.04 | nvz | I am tired |
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| 08:10.16 | ram_einstein | so am I, I'll give up in 5 min |
| 08:10.21 | eak | slm |
| 08:10.40 | bboett | ram_einstein, boot up with a knoppix and copy over all conf files.... |
| 08:10.41 | ram_einstein | tell me quickly, I had an option to chose some video card or something during the installtion |
| 08:10.46 | eak | alo |
| 08:10.50 | CcSsNET | same to me . . .well im now slightly puzled but i guess i offended you sorry |
| 08:10.53 | eak | you from |
| 08:10.59 | vahvarh | Hello! Anyone knows the current status of OO2? Is it going to be a 64-bit version soon? (posting here since no reply on #debian-amd64) |
| 08:11.02 | ram_einstein | it had vesa, ati, nv etc.. on the list |
| 08:11.09 | dli | ram_einstein: it doesn't take an einstein to do it |
| 08:11.13 | ram_einstein | how do I bring that up? |
| 08:11.14 | bboett | depends on your hardware ram_einstein .... |
| 08:11.24 | dli | ram_einstein: think about "auto-detection" |
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| 08:11.31 | Horde | is there a way of finding out all the processes and applications running? sorta like the CTRL+ALt+DEL on windows |
| 08:11.32 | Horde | ? |
| 08:11.40 | spdf | Horde, man ps |
| 08:11.52 | ram_einstein | dli, there's none |
| 08:11.52 | nvz | Horde: you could bind Ctrl |
| 08:12.02 | ram_einstein | bboett, how do I bring up that menu again? |
| 08:12.05 | nvz | Horde: you could bind Ctrl+Alt+Del to run the command gnome-system-monitor |
| 08:12.05 | CcSsNET | ram_einstein try a knoppix based live cd for now probably be easier then debian and still debian same time |
| 08:12.10 | bboett | which one ram_einstein ? |
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| 08:12.11 | ram_einstein | and where to I get knoppix? |
| 08:12.13 | ram_einstein | download? |
| 08:12.14 | nvz | Horde: would be roughly the same idea |
| 08:12.15 | dli | ram_einstein: it's sarge? |
| 08:12.16 | CcSsNET | try out damnsmalllinux.org |
| 08:12.23 | CcSsNET | it has a hd install |
| 08:12.25 | nvz | ram_einstein: ask #knoppix |
| 08:12.28 | bboett | ram_einstein, http://www.knoppix.org i think... google otherwise |
| 08:12.30 | JoshTriplett | nvz: KDE does that for its equivalent. :) |
| 08:12.37 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, I have dsl, ubuntu and kubuntu |
| 08:12.43 | CcSsNET | good |
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| 08:12.49 | CcSsNET | then play with them a bit |
| 08:12.50 | nvz | JoshTriplett: I wouldnt know :P |
| 08:12.51 | bboett | ubuntus hardware detection is good too i think... |
| 08:12.54 | bboett | use their conf files |
| 08:12.54 | ram_einstein | I wanted to try out satge |
| 08:13.00 | CcSsNET | learn debian better and it will just come to you eventually |
| 08:13.01 | nvz | JoshTriplett: thanks for the factiod though |
| 08:13.02 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, already did |
| 08:13.08 | nuck | Cc i couldnt find any user manual /documentation |
| 08:13.22 | ram_einstein | I also have fc3, fc4, suse |
| 08:13.23 | CcSsNET | for what? ldap? |
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| 08:13.44 | CcSsNET | that sucks sorry i dont even know what it is so i assumed google would be better lol |
| 08:13.47 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, "playing around" as you put it |
| 08:14.19 | nvz | I am going to sleep for days :P |
| 08:14.20 | CcSsNET | well im guna go, seems im useless her ;) |
| 08:14.23 | CcSsNET | peace |
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| 08:14.29 | CcSsNET | here* |
| 08:15.12 | ram_einstein | this just sucks; if you guys can't help me get deb up, Im going to eject and chuck that cd |
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| 08:15.25 | nvz | go ahead |
| 08:15.28 | ram_einstein | ....use the disk space for something more productive |
| 08:15.28 | Horde | what prob do you have ram? |
| 08:15.33 | pacman | yes yes, you're the king of all operating systems, in spite of the fact that you never heard of gpm and don't even know what kind of mouse you have. |
| 08:15.33 | nvz | That party did nothing but tire me out I met a bunch of girls but none that I liked. I am not sure if the girls I meet are really that bad or if I am just really picky. |
| 08:15.40 | ram_einstein | Horde, I can't startx!~ |
| 08:15.53 | pacman | we should all grovel at your feet and beg you not to give up on Debian, because that's what we're paid such large salaries for. |
| 08:15.54 | Horde | di you install gnome or kde? |
| 08:15.57 | ram_einstein | pacman, I never claimed to be |
| 08:16.06 | CcSsNET | ram x is useless i dont use it lol |
| 08:16.16 | ram_einstein | Horde, kde I think, I did an autoinstall |
| 08:16.23 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, very funny |
| 08:16.31 | pacman | if you just committed to live without X for 3 or 4 months, you'd come out smarter on the other side |
| 08:16.34 | CcSsNET | well try apt-cache searh kde |
| 08:16.37 | Horde | ok well try gnome just to see if it will |
| 08:16.40 | ram_einstein | pacman, ofcouse sot, you could atleast help |
| 08:16.49 | debian-san | Anyone has tried tools like jailer, jailtool and makejail? Which one would be better to chroot apache, php and mysql? |
| 08:16.56 | CcSsNET | and apt-get update && apt-get install THEkdePACkage |
| 08:17.28 | CcSsNET | debain-san now heres a convo i could get into :) |
| 08:17.29 | CcSsNET | hehe |
| 08:17.36 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, I havent done a pppoeconf yet |
| 08:17.38 | CcSsNET | duno how to help but it interests me more |
| 08:17.45 | ram_einstein | I have kde |
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| 08:18.01 | CcSsNET | well dont use a DSL line and ppp wouldnt be needed now would it lol |
| 08:18.09 | ram_einstein | how do I do the first-time config thing again without reinstalling? |
| 08:18.16 | peterS | ram_einstein: base-config, I think you want |
| 08:18.17 | Horde | uh |
| 08:18.21 | CcSsNET | or just do a pppoeconf? |
| 08:18.24 | CcSsNET | hehe |
| 08:18.32 | peterS | or that, depends on what you are wanting exactly |
| 08:18.35 | ram_einstein | thanks peterS ! |
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| 08:18.36 | pacman | I don't know what the latest problem is: gpm doesn't work, X doesn't work, keyboard is missing keys (and you don't know how to work around it), the sad thing is you're more concerned about X than the more fundamental problems. |
| 08:18.43 | Horde | hang on what do the jailers do? |
| 08:18.49 | ram_einstein | I'll try different combinations till x works |
| 08:19.06 | peterS | Horde: lead you around on a leash, wearing a hood, sometimes |
| 08:19.16 | ram_einstein | pacman, atleast when I start x, I'll feel a little better |
| 08:19.17 | ram_einstein | :) |
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| 08:19.35 | Horde | lol why you want it then? |
| 08:19.57 | peterS | Horde: they might also defile your copy of the qu'ran |
| 08:20.01 | Horde | never knew you were into that sorta thing |
| 08:20.13 | ram_einstein | how do I configure the video card thingy? the vesa, ati... list |
| 08:20.22 | ram_einstein | how do I bring up that list again? |
| 08:20.23 | peterS | ram_einstein: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 08:20.24 | pacman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.50 | Horde | i mean, what you do in the privacy of your own home is your buisness, but try to keep the descriptions to a minimum |
| 08:21.08 | ram_einstein | petemc, what driver should I chose? I have an nvidia video card |
| 08:21.21 | ram_einstein | nvidia geforce2 mx generic |
| 08:21.23 | peterS | ram_einstein: "nv" is on the list |
| 08:21.24 | ram_einstein | nv? |
| 08:21.26 | peterS | yeah |
| 08:21.28 | ram_einstein | yes |
| 08:21.35 | ram_einstein | but that doesn't start x |
| 08:21.36 | CcSsNET | cat ircBuffer.log | grep sanity > $test && if ["$test" > 1 ]; echo "its a miricle" |
| 08:21.44 | ram_einstein | I chose that lase time |
| 08:22.04 | peterS | ram_einstein: presumably X is failing for some other reason, then. 'nv' is pretty foolproof, especially for a card that old |
| 08:22.36 | CcSsNET | damn my format was off o well im to tired anyway |
| 08:22.45 | peterS | CcSsNET: yeah, there are a few things wrong with that one |
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| 08:23.17 | peterS | CcSsNET: try this: if [ $(grep sanity ircBuffer.log | wc -l) -gt 1 ]; then echo "its a miricle"; fi |
| 08:23.20 | w3rdn4 | why do humans have to sleep? |
| 08:23.31 | w3rdn4 | doesn't sleep make us an inferior race |
| 08:23.46 | w3rdn4 | aka LAZY |
| 08:23.49 | peterS | w3rdn4: nah, unix processes sleep too, it must be a good thing to do |
| 08:24.22 | ram_einstein | yipee! I started x! |
| 08:24.27 | peterS | good, good |
| 08:24.28 | w3rdn4 | what is sleep, when you dream? |
| 08:24.34 | ram_einstein | thanks so much peterS! |
| 08:24.48 | ram_einstein | I'll get back after dinner |
| 08:25.00 | peterS | I wonder what he did differently |
| 08:25.11 | peterS | I didn't actually help him much except to say "yes, the nv driver" |
| 08:25.14 | Horde | lol |
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| 08:25.22 | Horde | maybe he accidently chose wrong |
| 08:25.24 | Horde | one |
| 08:25.26 | Horde | last time |
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| 08:28.41 | w3rdn4 | I drank to much pots of coffee today |
| 08:28.51 | w3rdn4 | it is 3:30am and I am still up |
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| 08:29.33 | w3rdn4 | what can play .wma files? |
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| 08:30.23 | pacman | mplayer, possibly |
| 08:30.37 | pacman | a .wma is probably just a .wmv without video |
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| 08:32.15 | CcSsNET | horde, or this time . . . |
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| 08:32.21 | Horde | pardon? |
| 08:32.36 | Horde | oh |
| 08:32.36 | CcSsNET | chose wrong one last time, well then again maybe he did this time haha |
| 08:32.38 | Horde | yeah i get it |
| 08:32.43 | CcSsNET | :) |
| 08:32.55 | Horde | lol sorry went to bed at 3 last night |
| 08:33.01 | CcSsNET | hehe |
| 08:33.15 | Horde | woke up at 6, its my body telling me that it hates me |
| 08:33.26 | relaxed | don't yopou people sleep? |
| 08:33.28 | CcSsNET | i genrally stay awake 2 days strieght at least once a week |
| 08:33.33 | CcSsNET | my body hates me |
| 08:33.36 | w3rdn4 | sleep is for the weak |
| 08:33.41 | Horde | yeah but you get used to it after a while |
| 08:33.46 | CcSsNET | eh kinda |
| 08:33.48 | CcSsNET | lol |
| 08:34.04 | w3rdn4 | I like the 24 hours of staying awake, then sleeping 8 hours |
| 08:34.12 | CcSsNET | you could also start seeing spots and feel lightheaded for hours on end haha |
| 08:34.15 | w3rdn4 | seems like I get a full 32 hour day |
| 08:34.16 | Horde | i mean on the holidays i go to bed at 1 pretty much every day |
| 08:34.41 | Horde | unless im training |
| 08:34.45 | Horde | omg |
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| 08:34.47 | hightower | hi folks! |
| 08:34.47 | hightower | I used to run on "testing". when trying to update today, i notices many missing pakets (showimg, k3blibs, ...) |
| 08:34.47 | hightower | have i missed anything? |
| 08:34.52 | Horde | i went to bed at 4 last week |
| 08:34.56 | Horde | in the afternoon |
| 08:35.23 | hightower | i see them in stable and unstable, though |
| 08:35.36 | CcSsNET | hightower well thats the k3b library files |
| 08:35.50 | hightower | i know ;) |
| 08:36.00 | CcSsNET | do a apt-get update && apt-cache search k3blibs |
| 08:36.11 | CcSsNET | then browse for it |
| 08:36.23 | CcSsNET | and apt-get install **IT** |
| 08:36.25 | CcSsNET | hehe |
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| 08:36.30 | CcSsNET | if not not sure prob |
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| 08:36.57 | CcSsNET | o su before the install |
| 08:36.59 | CcSsNET | lol |
| 08:36.59 | CcSsNET | brb |
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| 08:37.01 | peterS | CcSsNET: that's not the sort of package that this technique is likely to be useful for, though |
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| 08:37.08 | CcSsNET | o i c |
| 08:37.10 | Horde | omg!!!! no way tahts cool, i got desperate and plugged my ipod into the old mouse port(the one thats like a ircle) with a usb adapter....it worked! |
| 08:37.21 | CcSsNET | well wasnt sure |
| 08:37.29 | Horde | hmmm |
| 08:37.35 | CcSsNET | horde? ircle? |
| 08:37.35 | hightower | problem is, that either the stable nor unstable version fullfills the dependencies to the rest of the testing stuff |
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| 08:37.42 | Horde | circle |
| 08:37.44 | CcSsNET | oooo |
| 08:37.49 | CcSsNET | i was like >.> |
| 08:37.51 | CcSsNET | <.< |
| 08:37.54 | CcSsNET | O.o |
| 08:37.58 | peterS | Horde: there's no way that would work |
| 08:37.59 | CcSsNET | hehe |
| 08:38.07 | Horde | ohhh |
| 08:38.08 | w3rdn4 | is there a way to convert .wma to .wav |
| 08:38.09 | Horde | i get it |
| 08:38.13 | CcSsNET | right |
| 08:38.17 | Horde | its charging but it cant read it |
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| 08:38.35 | pacman | mplayer -ao pcm foo.wma |
| 08:38.38 | Horde | cant find it, but it IS charging. exactly what i wanted it to do |
| 08:38.44 | peterS | Horde: yeah it might be able to get power from the port, but it certainly won't communicate with the computer. I didn't think about the idea of getting power that way |
| 08:38.44 | Horde | :D |
| 08:38.46 | CcSsNET | why would you plug your usb device somehow into a ps2 port . . . |
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| 08:39.27 | CcSsNET | that dont count |
| 08:39.28 | w3rdn4 | saves using a usb slot for other purposes |
| 08:39.29 | CcSsNET | ll |
| 08:39.35 | CcSsNET | lol* |
| 08:39.45 | CcSsNET | brb |
| 08:39.46 | peterS | w3rdn4: see, that's different, because the keyboard itself is both USB and PS/2. if the keyboard were only USB, this would not work |
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| 08:40.17 | w3rdn4 | hahaha |
| 08:40.19 | peterS | CcSsNET: please try to communicate with fewer lines. every time you get a burst of energy you hit Enter about 5 times. scrolls everyone else off the screen. so stop that. |
| 08:40.35 | w3rdn4 | is there a way to conver .wma files to .wav files/ |
| 08:40.40 | netsurf3 | :( i managed to stop my debian from running my pcmica ethernet card it used to work with the lights glowing on the socket extention and now doesnt i am assuming install damaged any ideas whats wrong guys? |
| 08:40.46 | CcSsNET | ok sorry |
| 08:40.51 | Horde | well put it like this, i use my ipod for DJing and it usually has no batteriez from a long day of using it in class, so it dies in the middle of a really good scratch break. and tadaaaaaa experimenting is fun |
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| 08:40.54 | pacman | the big bursts that scroll too fast are the ones where people DON'T press enter often enough! damn, why am I the only one who sees that. |
| 08:40.56 | lesshaste | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:41.18 | Horde | lol |
| 08:41.26 | Horde | im one of the people that pacman is talking about |
| 08:41.36 | Horde | gimme a badge |
| 08:41.51 | hightower | ok, simple question: why is there *no* k3blibs in testing, but in stable and unstable? |
| 08:42.07 | peterS | hightower: /msg dpkg why is k3blibs not in testing |
| 08:42.12 | peterS | hightower: seriously, it will tell you why |
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| 08:42.22 | CcSsNET | thats sweet |
| 08:42.28 | hightower | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.31 | Horde | awww shit i hate paperclips. ever had one stuck in your arm? |
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| 08:42.55 | hightower | thanks peterS |
| 08:43.00 | CcSsNET | now that^ was interesting |
| 08:43.02 | w3rdn4 | ohhh you know it is flipping 3:45am in the morning when people talk about getting paperclips stuck in their arms. |
| 08:43.03 | dilku | how can I get i686 debs in my systems ? |
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| 08:43.09 | Horde | lol |
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| 08:43.17 | peterS | hightower: that web page, actually, just tells you why a new version is not moving into testing. it doesn't say why an old version would have been removed from testing |
| 08:43.19 | Horde | its onlt 20 to 10 here |
| 08:43.22 | CcSsNET | its 4:42am here in new hampshire |
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| 08:43.36 | Fuji-san | is Debian better then ubuntu? |
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| 08:43.49 | Fuji-san | or for expertusers? |
| 08:43.50 | CcSsNET | personally i hate ubuntu |
| 08:43.51 | w3rdn4 | ok I am not being extact I am rounding to the nearest quater |
| 08:43.51 | dorto | #debian can only say yes :P |
| 08:43.56 | peterS | hightower: the answer to *that* is probably that the release managers are attempting to get the scripts to move new stuff into testing. sometimes old stuff in testing blocks new stuff from moving into testing, and must be removed. the reason it works this way would take a long time to explain |
| 08:44.03 | dorto | but i personally say an emphatic "YES" |
| 08:44.14 | Fuji-san | Debian is the rock on which Ubuntu was found.. |
| 08:44.19 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 08:44.34 | Fuji-san | why does the ubuntu community refer to debian as a rock? |
| 08:44.35 | dorto | Debian Sarge is very user friendly right from the installer, in my opinion |
| 08:44.48 | Fuji-san | even more then ubuntu? |
| 08:45.03 | dorto | ubuntu derives from debian and then consider debian as the competitor! |
| 08:45.17 | Fuji-san | So is ubuntu evolution or de-evolution? |
| 08:45.20 | pacman | no, but the ubuntu community refers to spaghetti as "pasketti" |
| 08:45.21 | hightower | peterS: so in consequence, if i'm running testing and want to continue using k3b, i possibly need to upgrade all dependencies to unstable!? |
| 08:45.22 | Fuji-san | ;lol |
| 08:45.24 | w3rdn4 | de |
| 08:45.27 | Horde | ubuntu is an anomolie |
| 08:45.32 | Fuji-san | yer thats strange |
| 08:45.35 | peterS | hightower: well, if you already have k3b installed, what is the problem? |
| 08:45.37 | Horde | anomoly |
| 08:45.45 | Fuji-san | i was banned in #ubuntu for saying debian is better lmao |
| 08:45.47 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 08:45.50 | Horde | lol really? |
| 08:45.51 | peterS | hightower: just keep it. if some other update wants to remove it, just don't apply that update |
| 08:45.53 | Fuji-san | yes |
| 08:45.55 | dorto | Fuji-san: if you want stable OS with tons of documentation and great support then it should be debian |
| 08:46.15 | hightower | peterS: i want to update the rest of my testing packages which break dependecies on k3blibs |
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| 08:46.23 | Fuji-san | ok |
| 08:46.35 | peterS | hightower: you have decisions to make, then. there are times when testing doesn't have the best of everything. this is one of those times. |
| 08:46.38 | Horde | but here is the problem, i think i heard of ubuntu before debian =_= |
| 08:46.52 | CcSsNET | heh thats funny im baned from this channel with a dif ip for simply talking one night . . . some guy fliped about my opinion i told him to grow up and bam im gone |
| 08:46.53 | hightower | peterS: 8) ok, thanks |
| 08:46.56 | peterS | Horde: that means you didn't hear of either one until very recently. ubuntu is very young (: |
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| 08:47.01 | CcSsNET | i was like wow this channel is interesting |
| 08:47.14 | Horde | lol yep |
| 08:47.18 | Horde | back in the day |
| 08:47.24 | Horde | which was a wednes day |
| 08:47.27 | Horde | wednesday |
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| 08:47.35 | peterS | CcSsNET: I highly doubt it was "bam I'm gone". I bet you were being annoying for a long time before the ops had enough |
| 08:47.40 | dorto | Fuji-san: you can try and say that ubuntu is better than debian and you won't get banned from here! |
| 08:47.46 | CcSsNET | not quit peters |
| 08:47.50 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 08:47.53 | CcSsNET | quiet* |
| 08:47.58 | dorto | ;) |
| 08:48.00 | peterS | quite* |
| 08:48.01 | Fuji-san | the operator called it trolling :/ |
| 08:48.03 | CcSsNET | whatever |
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| 08:48.06 | Horde | lol |
| 08:48.23 | Fuji-san | debian sounds better :) |
| 08:48.24 | Gnea | heh |
| 08:48.24 | Horde | in here you just get told to bugger off, or told to go to #ubuntu |
| 08:48.30 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 08:48.32 | peterS | Sunday has arrived a good 12 hours ahead of schedule, it seems |
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| 08:48.40 | dorto | lol |
| 08:48.48 | peterS | I wonder if it's the stupid all saints' eve weekend that did it |
| 08:48.49 | dorto | !lol |
| 08:48.49 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 08:49.04 | Horde | i do NOT use AOL |
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| 08:49.15 | Horde | msn in much more conveniant |
| 08:49.23 | CcSsNET | !trolling |
| 08:49.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, trolling is scorp's idea of constructive criticism, or a poor man's opium |
| 08:49.32 | CcSsNET | heh |
| 08:49.36 | JoshTriplett | MSN as in More of the Same Nonsense. :) |
| 08:49.42 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 08:49.53 | Horde | yeah but all my technophobe m8's use it |
| 08:50.06 | JoshTriplett | Horde: Just poking fun. |
| 08:50.16 | Horde | no i actually hate it |
| 08:50.18 | peterS | CcSsNET: judging by the number of useful things you've said tonight when I've been paying attention, I'm not all that surprised you were deemed to be not worth the trouble of putting up with, with your old IP |
| 08:50.21 | Gnea | peterS: i blame Mars. |
| 08:50.56 | Horde | peterS, is your last name sorenson by any chance? |
| 08:51.02 | Gnea | CcSsNET: you should simply be thankful you haven't been banned already, and just stick to topic |
| 08:51.03 | peterS | Horde: no. /whois peterS |
| 08:51.16 | CcSsNET | peterS i think from your prospective its deamable but at the same time im not exactly in a good mood tonight im at work, working a double, and am stuck here for still another hour |
| 08:51.23 | Horde | thank god |
| 08:51.29 | Horde | i was getting scared for a second |
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| 08:51.55 | JosephSpiros | I have four pretty much identical machines |
| 08:52.01 | dilku | how can I check what the compile flags on a perticular pkg ? |
| 08:52.02 | Gnea | CcSsNET: if you're at work then you should be working, not wanking off on irc bitching about the double shift that you elected to work ;) |
| 08:52.07 | JosephSpiros | running etch, and they have identical configurations for ntp-server |
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| 08:52.15 | Fuji-san | So when did debian became ubuntu? |
| 08:52.16 | CcSsNET | hehe so true |
| 08:52.17 | JosephSpiros | now, my quesiton is, why does one of them have a clock that's 4 hours ahead of the other three? :) |
| 08:52.25 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 08:52.41 | JosephSpiros | it seems like a timezone problem, and I'm unfamiliar for how to fix it |
| 08:52.44 | Horde | oh i jsut remembered, how do i set the system clock? |
| 08:52.50 | CcSsNET | kinda funny i get paid to irc . . . |
| 08:52.50 | Fuji-san | Is ubuntu just a different gui on top of debian? |
| 08:52.55 | Gnea | JosephSpiros: tzconfig && apt-get install ntpdate |
| 08:52.56 | CcSsNET | but anyway |
| 08:53.02 | CcSsNET | tty all later |
| 08:53.13 | Gnea | yeah so do i but how often do you see me complaining about it :) |
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| 08:53.17 | Fuji-san | the package managment comes from debian right |
| 08:53.19 | JosephSpiros | Gnea: ah tzconfig |
| 08:53.38 | pacman | you can run tzconfig to change the time zone, and edit /etc/default/rcS to make sure the RTC is set correctly |
| 08:53.46 | Horde | hang on |
| 08:53.53 | Horde | you get PAID to irc? |
| 08:53.54 | pacman | too slow again. |
| 08:54.02 | CcSsNET | haha |
| 08:54.08 | CcSsNET | lucky no other chans are active |
| 08:54.13 | Horde | what KIND of irc? |
| 08:54.18 | CcSsNET | basically |
| 08:54.22 | Horde | like channel moderating? |
| 08:54.25 | Fuji-san | can some1 give me a url with screenshots of debian? |
| 08:54.30 | CcSsNET | no |
| 08:54.38 | Horde | then what do you do!? |
| 08:54.41 | Fuji-san | i want to consider to use debian :) |
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| 08:55.06 | Horde | fuji:gnome or kde? |
| 08:55.16 | Gnea | Fuji-san: yeah - ubuntu is based purely off of debian - to say that debian is better is an oxymoron, getting banned for saying it was an intelligent decision, expressing your opinion is fine, but someone will always feel free to wack you upside the head with their @. :) ubuntu has its strengths, and one of them is just that ;) |
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| 08:55.30 | CcSsNET | i work security, of which consists of walking around randomly checking gates, and watching an access road, im in a shack with wifi and a laptop in the middle of no where newhampshire wtf else is there to do . . . |
| 08:55.35 | ram_einstein | I'm back! |
| 08:55.37 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 08:55.45 | Horde | hahahahaha |
| 08:55.51 | ram_einstein | I want an irc client |
| 08:55.58 | Gnea | Fuji-san: debian is just a base - you can make it look like whatever you want it to - it's not taylored like ubuntu, knoppix or mepis (or any of the others) |
| 08:55.59 | Fuji-san | debian should stop supporting ubuntu :) |
| 08:56.01 | ram_einstein | xchat is fine but apt-get install xchat |
| 08:56.04 | ram_einstein | doesn't work |
| 08:56.18 | CcSsNET | try downloading from the site |
| 08:56.21 | Gnea | Fuji-san: you should STFU about the whole debian/ubuntu thing now :) |
| 08:56.25 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 08:56.30 | CcSsNET | and dpkg -i xchat#.deb |
| 08:56.37 | Fuji-san | okay |
| 08:56.45 | Fuji-san | Gnea: debian only from now on :P |
| 08:56.47 | Horde | fuji:http://home.arcor.de/der_muller/upload/debian_kde_desktop.png |
| 08:56.57 | Horde | for kde |
| 08:57.12 | azeem | euh |
| 08:57.13 | CcSsNET | if xchat has a deb sorry if it doesnt |
| 08:57.15 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, I still need to map the # |
| 08:57.17 | Fuji-san | i want a desktop with the pinguin :) |
| 08:57.21 | Fuji-san | from linux |
| 08:57.23 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 08:57.36 | Horde | lol, then you set the background as a pioc |
| 08:57.39 | Horde | pic* |
| 08:57.40 | CcSsNET | # meaning whatever numbers are at the tail of the file meaning version |
| 08:57.40 | Horde | of taht |
| 08:57.57 | CcSsNET | say xchat-1.1.3? |
| 08:58.00 | CcSsNET | get it |
| 08:58.07 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, I kinda figured that |
| 08:58.08 | CcSsNET | duno the numbering scheem for it dont use it |
| 08:58.23 | Fuji-san | debian looks nice :) |
| 08:58.23 | ram_einstein | how do I search for packages? |
| 08:58.29 | Fuji-san | i'm going to try it next week |
| 08:58.31 | ram_einstein | eq to yum search ...? |
| 08:58.31 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 08:58.31 | CcSsNET | hold on brb |
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| 08:58.40 | Fuji-san | where can i download the debian install cd? |
| 08:58.40 | Horde | yeah, why not just do it now? |
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| 08:58.57 | ram_einstein | what's =yum search ..? |
| 08:59.06 | azeem | Fuji-san: cdimage.debian.org |
| 08:59.07 | Horde | http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 08:59.16 | ram_einstein | how do I search the apt database for packages? |
| 08:59.17 | Fuji-san | k ty |
| 08:59.19 | irevernetReveren | do debian install disks have a program that can resize HFS+ (osx format) volumes? |
| 08:59.34 | ram_einstein | and what's dpkg and apt-get... I don't get the difference |
| 08:59.42 | CcSsNET | fuji try using www.debian.org or a mirror |
| 08:59.43 | Fuji-san | does debian support dual bootable with grub? |
| 08:59.44 | peterS | ram_einstein: dpkg is low-level, apt-get is high-level |
| 08:59.52 | peterS | ram_einstein: apt-get downloads things and then calls dpkg to install them |
| 08:59.54 | Gnea | Fuji-san: here's my desktop back when i had it running on two monitors: http://gnea.net/gallery/screenshots/aae?full=1 |
| 09:00.01 | ram_einstein | peterS, I see |
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| 09:00.15 | peterS | ram_einstein: aptitude is even higher-level, that's what I recommend using |
| 09:00.15 | ram_einstein | peterS, and apt is even lower? |
| 09:00.17 | CcSsNET | ram_* your out a luck but there is a gentoo pkg |
| 09:00.27 | CcSsNET | it may work on debian or it might not i have no idea |
| 09:00.28 | peterS | ram_einstein: apt-get is the user-visible part of apt |
| 09:00.43 | peterS | ram_einstein: well, apt-get, apt-cache, apt-policy |
| 09:00.54 | ram_einstein | peterS, I see. apt is the database then |
| 09:00.58 | CcSsNET | or you could dl the source and use source |
| 09:01.01 | Fuji-san | heh Gnea can you run xp on top of debian? |
| 09:01.02 | ram_einstein | all the others are interfaces to it? |
| 09:01.09 | ram_einstein | CcSsNET, no thanks |
| 09:01.12 | Fuji-san | impressive Gnea ;) |
| 09:01.16 | Horde | man thats a nice setup gnea |
| 09:01.16 | peterS | ram_einstein: dpkg keeps a database, and apt keeps another copy of the database. this is for historical reasons. |
| 09:01.17 | CcSsNET | ./configure |
| 09:01.18 | CcSsNET | make |
| 09:01.22 | CcSsNET | make install |
| 09:01.32 | CcSsNET | bam hopefuly all goes well |
| 09:01.34 | ram_einstein | peterS, I see. How do I search the database?? |
| 09:01.40 | Horde | is that gnome or kde? |
| 09:01.41 | ram_einstein | for a specific package? |
| 09:01.46 | Gnea | Fuji-san: it gets the job done :) |
| 09:01.48 | peterS | ram_einstein: well, apt keeps a copy of the database of packages that can be installed. dpkg additionally keeps a much more extensive database of information about packages which *are* installed |
| 09:02.05 | Fuji-san | Gnea: so can you game using debian? |
| 09:02.06 | peterS | ram_einstein: 'apt-cache search' or 'aptitude search' are the usual ways. or run aptitude by itself, interactively |
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| 09:02.18 | Gnea | Fuji-san: of course |
| 09:02.18 | CcSsNET | you also can specifiy the tracking servers for the database with dpkg config file |
| 09:02.25 | Fuji-san | but i have a ati card |
| 09:02.26 | Fuji-san | :( |
| 09:02.31 | Fuji-san | not nvidia |
| 09:02.33 | CcSsNET | or something like that i mean apt . . . |
| 09:02.33 | ram_einstein | peterS, I see. |
| 09:02.34 | bboett | back.... |
| 09:02.36 | CcSsNET | eh tired |
| 09:02.40 | Gnea | well then you've got some docs to read |
| 09:02.48 | bo-bo | hi, i upgraded my xfree86 to xorg and i cant switch virtual consoles any more. what could be the problem? |
| 09:02.48 | ram_einstein | aptitude doesn't need x to run? |
| 09:02.54 | Gnea | ram_einstein: nope |
| 09:03.00 | ram_einstein | that's nice |
| 09:03.03 | CcSsNET | apt-get at the command |
| 09:03.06 | Gnea | ram_einstein: synaptic, OTOH... |
| 09:03.15 | ram_einstein | Gnea, what's OTOH? |
| 09:03.16 | peterS | CcSsNET: "it is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." ponder that for awhile, seriously |
| 09:03.18 | CcSsNET | or apt "tab tab" to see comands availabe |
| 09:03.20 | Gnea | !OTOH |
| 09:03.20 | dpkg | otoh is probably On The Other Hand. It's YAFA. |
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| 09:03.43 | dorto | when i try to install mysql server, it suggests mysql-doc package, but when i try to install mysql-doc i get the error 'E: Package mysql-doc has no installation candidate' |
| 09:03.49 | peterS | I misquoted that one, but it's close enough to get the point across, I suppose |
| 09:03.57 | ram_einstein | !YAFA |
| 09:03.57 | dpkg | i heard yafa is Yet Another Freakin Acronym. |
| 09:04.03 | bbrazil | dorto: its in non-free |
| 09:04.05 | bboett | dorto, use postgres instead ;) |
| 09:04.10 | Gnea | dorto: apt-cache search mysql doc |
| 09:04.15 | CcSsNET | peterS i could care less if thought a fool |
| 09:04.16 | ram_einstein | you have a nice bot here |
| 09:04.23 | Gnea | !botsnack |
| 09:04.27 | CcSsNET | least im not the one who cant |
| 09:04.29 | CcSsNET | RTFM |
| 09:04.33 | CcSsNET | haha |
| 09:04.46 | Gnea | !helixsmite CcSsNET |
| 09:04.47 | peterS | CcSsNET: remember what I said about hitting Enter several times in a row? thanks. |
| 09:04.50 | ram_einstein | could anyone suggest a nice irc client? |
| 09:05.01 | Gnea | irssi |
| 09:05.03 | Fuji-san | Gnea i added a nice comment :) |
| 09:05.04 | dorto | bbrazil, bboett: oo prefer postgre, but some softw work only with mysql :( |
| 09:05.06 | bboett | xchat |
| 09:05.07 | Fuji-san | :P |
| 09:05.08 | Fuji-san | lmao |
| 09:05.15 | peterS | ram_einstein: when he says irssi he means the irssi program which is the 'irssi-text' package |
| 09:05.37 | Gnea | Fuji-san: ROFL |
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| 09:05.45 | ram_einstein | forget it, apt-cache matched ksirc |
| 09:05.47 | Fuji-san | :-) |
| 09:06.01 | Gnea | heh, he's gonna use a kde app |
| 09:06.04 | ram_einstein | how do I find out if it's already installed (without attempting to run it) |
| 09:06.11 | peterS | ram_einstein: dpkg -l ksirc |
| 09:06.18 | ram_einstein | Gnea, what's wrong with that? |
| 09:06.21 | CcSsNET | peterS: i guess im guna go, you obviosly have an attitude towards me, fuji-san does it more then i, i simply sugest what comes to mind if im not as expereinced as you and you feel you can take power trips feel free ill be gone ;) |
| 09:06.29 | Gnea | ram_einstein: well, you asked for a 'nice' irc client |
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| 09:06.48 | peterS | man, I'm really gonna miss him |
| 09:06.49 | peterS | l |
| 09:06.49 | peterS | o |
| 09:06.49 | peterS | l |
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| 09:06.56 | ram_einstein | Gnea, it's not nice? |
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| 09:07.17 | pacman | I think the word "petard" belongs here. |
| 09:07.18 | Gnea | ram_einstein: it's a matter of opinion, you may find ksirc nicer than irssi :) |
| 09:07.26 | ram_einstein | good |
| 09:07.29 | bboett | ram_einstein, best you try some of the clients yourself and decice which one suts you best |
| 09:07.32 | peterS | that's a good word |
| 09:07.44 | peterS | it was satire, but debhelper has little sense of humor |
| 09:07.45 | ram_einstein | I like xchat, what I use on fc4 |
| 09:07.52 | Gnea | i prefer 'we taught it' |
| 09:08.26 | blaamann | Use Gaim |
| 09:08.38 | Gnea | ram_einstein: i like irssi, because i can run it in screen, and leave it running 24/7 on a server and if i become disconnected remotely somehow, it will always be there as long as there isn't a power outage |
| 09:08.39 | bboett | ram_einstein, i use xchat.... its easy quite retarded, has not many features but you don't need ages to master it... |
| 09:09.07 | ram_einstein | bboett, it isn't listed on the cache |
| 09:09.25 | ram_einstein | nothing matched for xchat |
| 09:09.37 | Gnea | wtf.. |
| 09:09.39 | bboett | apt-cache search xchat |
| 09:09.39 | bboett | xchat-text - IRC client for console similar to AmIRC |
| 09:09.39 | bboett | xchat - IRC client for X similar to AmIRC |
| 09:09.39 | bboett | xchat-common - Common files for X-Chat |
| 09:09.39 | bboett | xchat-systray - xchat systray notification icon |
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| 09:09.48 | bboett | :D |
| 09:09.53 | ram_einstein | nothing here bboett |
| 09:10.01 | ram_einstein | I have just a cd |
| 09:10.08 | ram_einstein | not connected |
| 09:10.09 | bboett | ah no DSL connection? |
| 09:10.11 | ram_einstein | to internet |
| 09:10.19 | ram_einstein | bboett, I set it up |
| 09:10.26 | ram_einstein | pon dsl-provider right? |
| 09:10.32 | ram_einstein | and to turn it off? |
| 09:10.32 | Fuji-san | Do any of you guys play pro evo 4 or 5? |
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| 09:10.46 | Gnea | !tell ram_einstein about interfaces |
| 09:10.51 | bboett | uh... using ppp ram_einstein ? what bandwidth do you have? |
| 09:10.54 | dorto | the mozilla browser in debian comes with ugly default theme :( |
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| 09:11.00 | dorto | how can i install better themes? |
| 09:11.10 | Gnea | ram_einstein: that should be setup in that file |
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| 09:11.32 | Gnea | ram_einstein: then it becomes a simple /etc/init.d/networking start|stop|restart |
| 09:11.33 | ram_einstein | pppoe bboett |
| 09:11.42 | dorto | found it: View -> Apply Theme -> Get New Themes |
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| 09:12.01 | ram_einstein | I still think it's pon dsl-provider |
| 09:12.16 | ram_einstein | wait a sec while I connect the cable... brb |
| 09:12.17 | bboett | your modem has no router capabilities? |
| 09:12.25 | bboett | anyway yes, pon dsl-provider |
| 09:12.41 | Horde | ugh, does anyone know if there is a driver for Cnet Singlepoint 10/100 mbps FastEthernet CardBus? |
| 09:13.04 | dorto | bboett xchat-systray - xchat systray notification icon <-- can we also minimize xchat to systray instead of bottom panel? |
| 09:13.06 | bboett | hmmm don't hit me :D i can't get the MacOS-X boxes print on my cups server.... anyone used to that stuff? |
| 09:13.29 | bboett | uh dorto i use xchat at very low level.... |
| 09:13.34 | Gnea | OSX is very nice though |
| 09:13.36 | Fuji-san | i just read the wiki about ati card but it didnt gae me much info .. |
| 09:13.45 | Fuji-san | i already have the xorg drivers' |
| 09:13.49 | Gnea | !ati |
| 09:13.50 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 09:13.52 | dorto | bboett: you know how to run xchat in text mode? |
| 09:13.53 | Gnea | er |
| 09:13.56 | Horde | ugh, does anyone know if there is a driver for Cnet Singlepoint 10/100 mbps FastEthernet CardBus? |
| 09:14.12 | Gnea | Fuji-san: there are many ati cards - there is no single driver that encompasses them all |
| 09:14.14 | bboett | dorto, the text client for xchat is way outdated.... i wouldn't use it |
| 09:14.26 | Fuji-san | Gnea i heard that ati cards have serious issues ? |
| 09:14.27 | bboett | if you use console use irssi IMHO the best one for that mode |
| 09:14.35 | Fuji-san | btw does debian need cedega to play games? |
| 09:14.35 | bboett | or if you are masochistic use bitchx |
| 09:14.37 | dorto | bboett: ok |
| 09:14.38 | Gnea | Fuji-san: you have to figure out specifically which one you have and find the driver that supports it best |
| 09:14.45 | Horde | ugh, does anyone know if there is a driver for Cnet Singlepoint 10/100 mbps FastEthernet CardBus?????? |
| 09:15.01 | Fuji-san | Do you have the run the games on cedega or wine? |
| 09:15.06 | dorto | debian has any blog/wiki software(hosting) that i can install using apt? |
| 09:15.10 | Gnea | Fuji-san: it depends on the games you want to play - not all games are windows-based, but yes, they do make a .deb for cedega |
| 09:15.17 | Fuji-san | ok |
| 09:15.21 | Gnea | cedega is wine. |
| 09:15.30 | dorto | i was considering downloading a php based server and copying it in apache |
| 09:15.47 | Fuji-san | i thought that only id and epic make games for linux? |
| 09:15.53 | Horde | ugh, does anyone know if there is a driver for Cnet Singlepoint 10/100 mbps FastEthernet CardBus?????? |
| 09:15.57 | Fuji-san | i want to play my pro evo 5 on linux |
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| 09:16.06 | Horde | pro evo 5? |
| 09:16.15 | Fuji-san | pro evolution soccer 5 |
| 09:16.19 | Horde | ohhh |
| 09:16.20 | pacman | I've recently developed an addiction to /usr/games/dab... too bad the computer opponent is so stupid |
| 09:16.21 | Horde | thaught so |
| 09:16.32 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 09:16.38 | zwl | hello, everyone. |
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| 09:17.21 | zwl | somebody can tell me if i wanto e-mail which software i can use |
| 09:17.22 | Horde | dab? |
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| 09:17.37 | dererk | Hi all! :D |
| 09:17.41 | Fuji-san | is it true that ati has the better hardware but nvidia a better balance between hardware and software, and uses dirty kernel hacks to get the better framerates? |
| 09:17.50 | pacman | a recent addition to bsdgames |
| 09:18.01 | Horde | bsdgames? |
| 09:18.15 | Fuji-san | i talked to a dev. that worked on ati drivers yesterday |
| 09:18.20 | pacman | are you a bot? pick a random word and add a question mark? worse than Eliza... |
| 09:18.26 | Horde | lol |
| 09:18.30 | dererk | Is there any way not to allow some users tu use certain consola |
| 09:18.34 | Horde | no i pick last word |
| 09:18.40 | Horde | and add question mark |
| 09:18.41 | dererk | Is there any way not to allow some users tu use certain console-based aplications ? |
| 09:19.24 | Horde | but what game are you talking about? i wanna play? |
| 09:19.29 | Horde | i wanna play! |
| 09:19.36 | peterS | Horde: he already said what game. pay attention |
| 09:19.42 | pacman | apt-get install bsdgames ; plenty of good stuff in there. |
| 09:19.51 | zwl | what software i can use if i want to mail somebody |
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| 09:20.20 | dererk | zwl, Mutt, Evolution, command line tools |
| 09:20.27 | Fuji-san | I'm incapable of caring for myself, and need to be diapered and fed and burped. Care for me elders . :-) |
| 09:20.32 | dererk | zwl, Whatever you want more :) |
| 09:20.33 | azeem | Kontact/KMail |
| 09:20.36 | Horde | shot |
| 09:20.39 | zwl | thanks |
| 09:20.58 | Horde | im usually bored at 2 in the morning, and solitare doesent have as much of a kick as it used to |
| 09:21.01 | dererk | Is there any way not to allow some users tu use certain console-based aplications ? |
| 09:21.32 | Fuji-san | lol that fairytale is quite amusing :) |
| 09:21.40 | Fuji-san | the fable of #debian lmao |
| 09:21.40 | Fuji-san | :P |
| 09:21.43 | dererk | Horde, Most of us ussually get bored at that time pal :) |
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| 09:22.16 | Horde | lol yeah and i HAVE to pass time to wait to see if my girlfriend is going to try kill herself...such a hassle... |
| 09:22.36 | dorto | dererk: like reboot, mount etc? google to see if 'sudo' helps |
| 09:22.37 | dererk | Horde, lol |
| 09:22.46 | Horde | no im not joking |
| 09:23.04 | dererk | dorto, No, I want to disable the use of, such us, mc |
| 09:23.05 | pacman | once you've read the strategy section at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_and_Boxes, /usr/games/dab is too easy, it needs a better computer opponent, or network play :) |
| 09:23.11 | dererk | Horde, O_o |
| 09:23.32 | jonnyooo | hi |
| 09:23.34 | dererk | dorto, Do you understand? |
| 09:23.38 | Horde | im sereous, she texts me at 1.30 saying "im sad, talk to me" or "im so unhappy, bleeding makes it so much better" |
| 09:23.47 | dorto | dererk: need to remove the suid bit i guess |
| 09:23.49 | Horde | its kinda scary |
| 09:23.59 | jonnyooo | I have a problem during the installation of debian testing dvd |
| 09:24.18 | dorto | dererk: without suid bit, it can be executed only by those who have executable permission |
| 09:24.30 | jonnyooo | it may be currently a little ot, but maybe somebody has an idea |
| 09:24.36 | jonnyooo | when I try to install the newest testing-version of debian (dvd), which I |
| 09:24.36 | jonnyooo | downloaded 2 days ago and I get to the point of partitioning - I have no |
| 09:24.36 | jonnyooo | choice to do it manually. Even if I try do let him do it for me, it doesn't |
| 09:24.36 | jonnyooo | work. |
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| 09:25.20 | Fuji-san | how does the story end... |
| 09:25.30 | Fuji-san | did the elders kill the babies :) |
| 09:25.31 | dererk | jonnyooo, Try not to do that again |
| 09:25.39 | jonnyooo | I'm sorry |
| 09:25.41 | Fuji-san | Gnea: read me the story whehehehe :'( |
| 09:25.43 | Fuji-san | hahaha |
| 09:25.53 | jonnyooo | didn't read the intro thouroughly |
| 09:25.59 | Fuji-san | i need a clean diaper :(( |
| 09:26.01 | Fuji-san | lmao |
| 09:26.03 | dererk | dorto, how should I search for the info, setuid ? |
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| 09:26.28 | pacman | this channel is really getting bizarre |
| 09:26.43 | Fuji-san | ;p |
| 09:26.43 | Horde | lol |
| 09:26.53 | Horde | its taht time of year |
| 09:26.54 | Fuji-san | read this story :-) : http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
| 09:26.58 | dererk | pacman, You mean, like a pacman game? lol |
| 09:27.03 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 09:27.06 | jonnyooo | well: is it normal, that I don't have the choice to do manual partitioning in debian installer? |
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| 09:27.24 | Fuji-san | jonnyooo: need a clean diaper? |
| 09:27.25 | Fuji-san | :P |
| 09:27.54 | jonnyooo | always :P |
| 09:27.59 | Fuji-san | ahaha |
| 09:28.02 | jonnyooo | mine is full |
| 09:28.26 | Fuji-san | lol |
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| 09:28.32 | Fuji-san | who wrote that story..? |
| 09:28.40 | Fuji-san | its quite good :) |
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| 09:29.19 | jonnyooo | so what about the installation? |
| 09:29.38 | dererk | dorto, are you there? |
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| 09:29.59 | jonnyooo | I mean it's quite normal to do that manually, isn't it? |
| 09:30.10 | acollins | are there iptables rules that stop sockets being opened? |
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| 09:31.06 | acollins | I have a fwbuilder firewall and cannot start Tomcat or CruiseControl once it's script has run |
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| 09:31.15 | acollins | (as root or as me) |
| 09:31.20 | elfriede | Hello. I don't know why, but when starting from gdm it just ignores my instructions on what session to use. My default session is symlinked to my ~/.xinitrc and gdm is configured to use the default session, yet when I log in it starts something totally different. How can I make gdm ALWAYS run my .xinitrc and nothing else? |
| 09:31.33 | Howitzer | can i download just the first debian install cd to have a minimal WORKING installation? |
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| 09:32.25 | dorto | dererk: was afk |
| 09:32.40 | dorto | derek: you can see doc for chmod for that |
| 09:33.06 | dorto | derek: chmod og-s file <-- removes suid bit on the file |
| 09:33.11 | dli | can I ask find to ignore case in finding files, like, find . -name "cnsmin*" |
| 09:33.20 | dli | but case insensitive |
| 09:33.23 | dorto | dererk: see this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=468 |
| 09:33.23 | acollins | ok, I take that back...it takes a long time for them to start |
| 09:34.12 | dererk | dorto, thanks a lot partner |
| 09:34.16 | pacman | dli, find -iname, that was fun, ask another easy one |
| 09:34.26 | Howitzer | can i download just the first debian install cd to have a minimal WORKING installation? |
| 09:34.34 | Horde | howitzer: yes |
| 09:34.37 | Howitzer | okay |
| 09:34.40 | Howitzer | ty |
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| 09:35.06 | dli | pacman: thanks, need to search for windows files :) |
| 09:35.31 | DarKnesS_WolF | where is the command esdplay ? i want to make amsn uses esdplay command |
| 09:35.52 | zamolxes | slighty offtopic question.. reiserfs, 2.6.8. process A creates , writes contents in it, and closes a file , and _imediatly_ after that, process B runs stat and gets a 0 size on that file. A very small sleep solves the issue. How is this possible? :) |
| 09:36.06 | Horde | how do you chose between kde and gnome for what one starts with startx? |
| 09:36.30 | dli | Horde why use startx? not gdm or kdm? |
| 09:36.46 | Horde | hmm |
| 09:36.53 | Horde | never really thaught of it like that... |
| 09:37.23 | FinnTux | Horde, try editing .xinitrc |
| 09:37.35 | FinnTux | 'startkde' or 'gnome-session' |
| 09:38.30 | Horde | ohh i was doing kde-session |
| 09:38.34 | Horde | =_= |
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| 09:39.41 | Fuji-san | yo Horde |
| 09:39.55 | Horde | ? |
| 09:40.17 | Fuji-san | time to clean my diaper: which app / codec do i need to play asf-media or .asx streaming media / radio ? |
| 09:40.34 | Fuji-san | ;-) |
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| 09:40.42 | Horde | .asx? |
| 09:40.44 | Horde | uhmmm |
| 09:40.46 | dererk | Thanks a lot, and bye now, dorto |
| 09:40.56 | Horde | is that audio or video? |
| 09:41.02 | Fuji-san | audio |
| 09:41.10 | Fuji-san | or both |
| 09:41.13 | Fuji-san | i'm not sure |
| 09:41.21 | Fuji-san | i think audio tho since itsa radiostation |
| 09:41.25 | Horde | hmmm well if its audio try pox |
| 09:41.28 | Fuji-san | but they might have a webcam |
| 09:41.46 | Fuji-san | k ty |
| 09:42.07 | Horde | i dont know though, never heard of .asx |
| 09:42.16 | jonnyooo | anybody has an idea, why there is no option the partition manually in the debian-installer of the latest etch testing version? |
| 09:42.20 | pacman | *.asx is usually a text file containing a URL where you will find a *.asf file. |
| 09:42.29 | Horde | ahhh |
| 09:42.35 | Horde | that would do it |
| 09:42.36 | pacman | I believe mplayer can parse them. |
| 09:42.54 | Horde | took the words out of my mouth pac |
| 09:43.24 | Horde | does dpkg have anything for !.asx? |
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| 09:43.29 | Horde | !.asx |
| 09:43.33 | Horde | !asx |
| 09:43.34 | dpkg | [asx] anti-synchronous extrapolation |
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| 09:43.48 | Horde | ... |
| 09:45.27 | pacman | I don't have any asx files to test, but I think mplayer -playlist foo.asx should work. |
| 09:46.16 | Horde | wow kde is a hell of alot bigger than gnome... |
| 09:46.17 | pacman | assuming you don't run into trouble with the codecs in the actual ASF file, of course |
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| 09:47.18 | jonnyooo | #flood |
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| 09:47.37 | dilku | i was doing a dict-upgrade and now it looks like bronken ? |
| 09:47.41 | Horde | hmm strange, when i reord using audacity and try to play it back it sounds really fast |
| 09:47.46 | Horde | or distorted |
| 09:47.49 | dilku | *dist-upgrade |
| 09:48.03 | Horde | any ideas why? |
| 09:48.07 | at0m|c | hoi, anyone knows how i (find out how to) call the 1394 network in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 09:48.36 | at0m|c | looks like the right modules are loaded.. |
| 09:48.47 | Horde | lol kaboodle |
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| 09:49.11 | Horde | linux has such weird names |
| 09:49.14 | Fuji-san | i installed avifile-player but i cant find where its installed? |
| 09:49.23 | Horde | its like the ghetto version of windows |
| 09:49.24 | peterS | at0m|c: if you load the net1394 driver, 'ifconfig -a' will tell you what the interface is called |
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| 09:49.33 | at0m|c | peterS, cheers |
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| 09:49.42 | Horde | try searching |
| 09:49.45 | Horde | for it |
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| 09:50.16 | peterS | at0m|c: errr, I meant eth1394 of course, not net1394 |
| 09:50.28 | peterS | at0m|c: I think it just produces eth0 eth1 eth2 etc., but am not sure since I don't have the hardware |
| 09:51.57 | mtnman | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:52.00 | Horde | hehe still cant get over kaboodle |
| 09:52.22 | Horde | or kooka |
| 09:52.58 | at0m|c | peterS, yes, it gave me eth1 |
| 09:53.08 | peterS | good, good |
| 09:53.26 | Horde | hwy what do you guys use as a gui? kde or gnome? |
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| 09:53.40 | Fuji-san | why does linux use 40% of my diskcache? |
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| 09:54.10 | peterS | Fuji-san: if it doesn't use it, what would you use that memory for? unused memory is wasted memory |
| 09:54.30 | Horde | or potential well used memory |
| 09:54.47 | peterS | Horde: no, unused memory is wasted memory. if it's just sitting there, don't you think it should be put to some use? |
| 09:54.49 | Fuji-san | reserve then |
| 09:55.03 | Fuji-san | it reserved 40% of my diskcache |
| 09:55.27 | Horde | hmm i supose, but what if you suddenly need that memory and dont have it |
| 09:55.35 | Horde | because its reserved |
| 09:55.37 | dorto | what is the best way to stop a service(apache) in debian? |
| 09:55.50 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 09:55.51 | Horde | the x button |
| 09:55.53 | Lorvija | /etc/init.d/apache stop |
| 09:55.56 | peterS | Horde: used is not the same as reserved. I was not talking about memory you could not free up again |
| 09:56.02 | dorto | if it is stand alone? kill? |
| 09:56.09 | Lorvija | dorto that one was for u (: |
| 09:56.10 | peterS | Horde: if you suddenly need it, you suddenly get it |
| 09:56.23 | dorto | yeah, i noticed |
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| 09:56.42 | peterS | Horde: but until you need it, better to have more disk cache than to have ... memory just sitting there doing nothing |
| 09:56.43 | Horde | ah, true, but i like to have at least 10-20% free for anything |
| 09:56.50 | peterS | Horde: why? |
| 09:56.57 | Horde | makes me feel safer |
| 09:57.03 | Horde | >< |
| 09:57.10 | peterS | that's nice. it makes your computer feel slower too |
| 09:57.12 | spdf | dorto, there's also 'apachectl stop' |
| 09:57.17 | Horde | yeah i know |
| 09:57.42 | dorto | spdf, k |
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| 09:59.04 | Horde | man i want to have a hip hop argument.. |
| 09:59.29 | peterS | Horde: this is a perfect channel to have it in. it would be so on-topic |
| 09:59.43 | DarKnesS_WolF | what is the esdplay command name in debian ? |
| 09:59.50 | Horde | lol yeah i know.....but there are so few hip hop channels... |
| 10:00.10 | peterS | that can't be true. there are probably just not a lot of them on an IRC network devoted to free software |
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| 10:00.28 | spdf | Find a network devoted to free hiphop, and you'll have your discussion. |
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| 10:00.46 | peterS | in other words, devoted to warez |
| 10:00.49 | Horde | yeah, there are a few yahoo "chat rooms" |
| 10:01.04 | peterS | since that's what "free music" usually amounts to |
| 10:01.08 | Horde | i dont want mp3's or anything i just want a discussion on it |
| 10:01.14 | spdf | Yahoo chat rooms are where the hizzizzles at. |
| 10:01.27 | qpee | hi i have installed debian on my 15,4" display-notebook and am experiencing that the display is stretched horizontally, although i have entered a resolution of 1280x800 in the X-config file. what else should/must be configured? |
| 10:01.32 | Guerin | Horde: do you have the new king kapisi? |
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| 10:01.47 | Horde | the album? nah, do you? |
| 10:01.50 | Guerin | Horde: the one which was released about 6 months or a year ago |
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| 10:02.01 | Horde | lol no but it was ok |
| 10:02.14 | Guerin | Horde: nope, can't buy the damn thing outside NZ |
| 10:02.14 | spdf | qpee, I thing you'll need to add a modeline for it, that I don't have.. one sec.. |
| 10:02.14 | Guerin | kapisi is the man |
| 10:02.22 | Horde | indeed he is, you heard that new track? |
| 10:02.27 | Horde | cant remembr what its called |
| 10:02.32 | Horde | raise up |
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| 10:02.42 | Guerin | Horde: haven't heard anything since Savage Thoughts, which i listen to about daily |
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| 10:03.20 | spdf | qpee, try 1280x768 for now, it'll be a little bit stretched, but good enough in the mean time.. |
| 10:03.24 | Horde | wow that was a while ago. you know that redman and uhmmmmmmm oh shit i dunno. the track called the whole city behind us |
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| 10:03.44 | Horde | its sorta like that but kapisi |
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| 10:04.14 | Guerin | Horde: i don't warez NZ music, and neither should you. I'm gonna get my sister to send me a copy. |
| 10:04.25 | dorto | apachectl is not installed on my system i guess; apt-get also cannot find it |
| 10:04.31 | dorto | how is it usually installed? |
| 10:04.42 | spdf | dorto, Its installed with apache |
| 10:04.47 | spdf | dorto, not sure about apache2 |
| 10:04.54 | Horde | lol i dont, its too hard to get a hold of |
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| 10:05.06 | dorto | mine is apache2 :( |
| 10:05.09 | Horde | which is good for my warez addiction |
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| 10:07.01 | qpee | spdf, for the modeline you mean? i have one: ModeLine "1280x800" 100 1024 1100 1200 1300 768 800 900 1000 |
| 10:07.11 | dorto | brb |
| 10:07.53 | peterS | qpee: that's 1024x768, not 1280x800 |
| 10:07.53 | pacman | it says 1280x800 in the name, but the actual visible resolutions are 1024 768 |
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| 10:08.03 | peterS | qpee: you look at fields 3 and 7 |
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| 10:11.44 | jonnyooo | Hello! When I try to install debian-etch and have the partitioning already done, when skipping that I get the message |
| 10:12.05 | jonnyooo | before the installation can proceed, a root file system must be mounted on /target |
| 10:12.12 | jonnyooo | how can I do this? |
| 10:12.23 | valdyn | jonnyooo: why dont you use the sarge installer? |
| 10:12.28 | Fuji-san | yer |
| 10:12.36 | Fuji-san | use the sarge installer :) |
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| 10:12.43 | jonnyooo | he only has the option to autopartition |
| 10:12.52 | valdyn | jonnyooo: nonsense |
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| 10:13.22 | jonnyooo | I use the installer on dvd |
| 10:13.31 | jonnyooo | is that another one than the sarge? |
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| 10:13.46 | valdyn | jonnyooo: you just said you were installing etch |
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| 10:14.03 | jonnyooo | well, i downloaded the latest testing dvd |
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| 10:14.11 | jonnyooo | i thought that would be etch |
| 10:14.20 | valdyn | jonnyooo: it is, dont use that to install |
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| 10:14.29 | yang26 | what is the package for virtual private servers? |
| 10:14.31 | jonnyooo | ok, so how do i use sarge |
| 10:14.35 | valdyn | !sarge |
| 10:14.36 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 10:14.40 | toMYz | any french here ? |
| 10:14.45 | valdyn | !fr |
| 10:14.45 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 10:14.46 | Fuji-san | no |
| 10:14.47 | Fuji-san | ;P |
| 10:14.54 | Fuji-san | haha |
| 10:14.58 | toMYz | thx :P |
| 10:15.13 | Fuji-san | cest pas necessair etr francais toMYz :P |
| 10:15.18 | Fuji-san | etre* |
| 10:15.31 | toMYz | bah pour se comprendre un peu quand meme :) |
| 10:15.34 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 10:15.36 | jonnyooo | do i have to download the sarge install-cd? |
| 10:15.57 | toMYz | d'ailleurs, tu vas pouvoir me dire comment on ferme un onglet de chan sur ce putain de KSirc |
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| 10:16.11 | Fuji-san | ;/ |
| 10:16.16 | valdyn | jonnyooo: probably, no one here is going to help you with etch - installer issues anyway |
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| 10:16.34 | fo0 | toMYz, ? |
| 10:16.36 | toMYz | j'suis ptete con |
| 10:16.36 | jonnyooo | why is that? |
| 10:16.41 | qpee | peterS, how should the line then look like? |
| 10:16.48 | Horde | great |
| 10:16.53 | Horde | i failed french |
| 10:16.58 | Fuji-san | Guys i made a filter... |
| 10:17.00 | Horde | or i would have if i took it |
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| 10:17.04 | Fuji-san | for chatrooms |
| 10:17.15 | peterS | qpee: should say "1280x800" something 1280 something something 800 something something |
| 10:17.18 | toMYz | fo0, ? |
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| 10:17.23 | spdf | He wants to know how to close a window in KSirc.. |
| 10:17.32 | toMYz | yeah |
| 10:17.34 | Fuji-san | when somebody speaks in french or german it autmaticly translates in english so you dont see a foreign language :) |
| 10:17.38 | fo0 | rien en fait j'ai jamais utilisé KSirc .. |
| 10:17.40 | peterS | qpee: the other 5 numbers you have to figure out. they will depend on your hardware capabilities, both video card and display |
| 10:17.45 | toMYz | moi non plus |
| 10:17.51 | fo0 | il est pas trop tard :) |
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| 10:17.59 | fo0 | xchat/irssi |
| 10:18.00 | Horde | relally fuji? |
| 10:18.01 | toMYz | j'ai install debian ya qq jours |
| 10:18.02 | qpee | peterS, is there a tool i icould use for that? |
| 10:18.08 | fo0 | ok |
| 10:18.08 | Fuji-san | Horde: jk :) |
| 10:18.09 | Horde | thats pretty cool |
| 10:18.11 | Fuji-san | haha |
| 10:18.12 | peterS | qpee: probably but I don't know one offhand |
| 10:18.12 | Horde | oh |
| 10:18.15 | Horde | dumb |
| 10:18.19 | Fuji-san | haha |
| 10:18.19 | fo0 | dans ce cas préfére Xchat |
| 10:18.28 | Horde | but i guess it wouldent be that hard......... |
| 10:18.29 | Fuji-san | but you could make that |
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| 10:18.31 | toMYz | xchat on peut pas le mettre sous kde si ? |
| 10:18.34 | Fuji-san | yer |
| 10:18.38 | fo0 | bien-sűr |
| 10:18.43 | peterS | qpee: well, actually you can install 'read-edid'. then run 'get-edid | parse-edid' |
| 10:18.45 | Fuji-san | of course :) |
| 10:18.46 | toMYz | oki |
| 10:18.49 | peterS | qpee: that sometimes gives you modelines |
| 10:18.53 | toMYz | et kde ça commence ŕ m'lourder aussi |
| 10:19.03 | Horde | i mean i have a translator that does spanish, italian, french and german |
| 10:19.07 | fo0 | essaye fluxbox ou xfce ou ... |
| 10:19.09 | toMYz | j'hésite ŕ changer avec enlightement |
| 10:19.10 | peterS | qpee: it uses the plug'n'play capabilities of modern monitors to ask the monitor itself what a reasonable mode line would be |
| 10:19.16 | fo0 | aussi oui |
| 10:19.27 | peterS | take it to #debian-fr, please |
| 10:19.31 | fo0 | perso gnome et xfce :) |
| 10:19.32 | toMYz | franchement j'sais pas kwa test |
| 10:19.39 | fo0 | pk peterS |
| 10:19.46 | Neverth | ... is the xserver-xfree86 package broken on sarge? |
| 10:19.49 | fo0 | s/pk/ok/ |
| 10:19.53 | qpee | peterS, for me it does't. maybe because i'm in vmware? |
| 10:19.54 | valdyn | Neverth: no |
| 10:19.55 | Fuji-san | you could make bot that picks up the foreign language and translate you cant prevent someone from speaking french |
| 10:19.56 | toMYz | soz peterS i'll translate everything specially 4u baby |
| 10:20.04 | peterS | qpee: if you're in vmware I have no idea what works and what doesn't |
| 10:20.04 | toMYz | :] |
| 10:20.06 | toMYz | [: |
| 10:20.12 | Fuji-san | so it wouldnt work as an filter ;) |
| 10:20.18 | fo0 | toMYz, try fluxbox |
| 10:20.21 | Neverth | then i got it just hanging on "preconfiguring packages" state |
| 10:20.22 | fo0 | very light |
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| 10:20.24 | peterS | toMYz: I understand your french. this is still the wrong channel for it. #debian-fr exists for a reason. |
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| 10:20.36 | qpee | peterS, ok. i go kill windows on this box. thanks so far |
| 10:20.41 | Fuji-san | peterS: next diaper is mine :) |
| 10:20.54 | toMYz | peterS: i lov u. |
| 10:21.00 | Horde | alrighty im out |
| 10:21.06 | Fuji-san | bye Horde |
| 10:21.07 | Horde | needa practice for a mixtape |
| 10:21.10 | Fuji-san | lol |
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| 10:21.13 | Fuji-san | g' l |
| 10:21.34 | Fuji-san | debian :))) |
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| 10:21.48 | Fuji-san | I'm dutch is their a debian-n? |
| 10:21.51 | Fuji-san | nl* |
| 10:21.56 | Fuji-san | debian-nl |
| 10:22.16 | Fuji-san | lol nope there isnt |
| 10:22.16 | Neverth | :/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg -i xserver-xfree86_4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1_i386.deb |
| 10:22.16 | Neverth | (Reading database ... 155684 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 10:22.16 | Neverth | Unpacking xserver-xfree86 (from xserver-xfree86_4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1_i386.deb) ... |
| 10:22.17 | Fuji-san | lmao |
| 10:22.27 | Neverth | it just hangs there and wont do anything |
| 10:22.28 | kane_ | tunes |
| 10:22.33 | kane_ | ww |
| 10:22.40 | toMYz | global vote :D ? fluxbox 1 ; enlightement 2 ; xfce 3 ? |
| 10:22.43 | war92 | KDE |
| 10:22.51 | toMYz | nope |
| 10:22.55 | war92 | but if I had to choose |
| 10:22.56 | war92 | 3,2,1 |
| 10:22.57 | spdf | Out of those three? hmm.. Flux |
| 10:23.03 | toMYz | lolz |
| 10:23.10 | spdf | Flux gives me boners. |
| 10:23.16 | fo0 | toMYz, with gdm U can try ..and choose |
| 10:23.24 | Guerin | Fuji-san: most hollanders tend to speak better english than your average american, so we let them in here |
| 10:23.34 | Fuji-san | lol |
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| 10:24.20 | Guerin | this is clearly a recent development, though, because my dutch grandmother has been living in an english-speaking country since 1955, and is still a bit shakey |
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| 10:24.29 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 10:24.42 | Guerin | she's belgian by birth, but dutch by upbringing and marriagre - unsure how that affects matters |
| 10:24.44 | Fuji-san | i always get a 90% for english :0 |
| 10:24.51 | Miesco | Has anyone set up a SMB printer? |
| 10:25.03 | Guerin | Miesco: no, you're breaking virgin ground there. |
| 10:25.04 | Sh|fty | nope |
| 10:25.10 | Guerin | Miesco: good luck, here's your spade. |
| 10:25.13 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 10:25.31 | Sh|fty | :o |
| 10:25.55 | Sh|fty | 9 min 40 sec for one torrent :( |
| 10:25.59 | Fuji-san | Guerin where are you from? |
| 10:26.10 | yang26 | what is the package name for using virtual private servers? |
| 10:26.15 | Fuji-san | Whereabouts in the Common Wealth? |
| 10:26.27 | Sh|fty | http://packages.debian.org :) |
| 10:26.31 | CASP | hello |
| 10:26.37 | Guerin | Fuji-san: nu zullund |
| 10:26.42 | Sh|fty | :o |
| 10:26.44 | Fuji-san | zullund? |
| 10:26.47 | Sh|fty | nz :o |
| 10:26.57 | Miesco | Guerin: Hmm? |
| 10:26.57 | Fuji-san | New Zealand |
| 10:27.10 | Sh|fty | Australian's FTW |
| 10:27.13 | Sh|fty | :p |
| 10:27.16 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 10:27.27 | Sh|fty | fear me, iam a goldcoaster :p |
| 10:27.31 | Sh|fty | i made up a new word :) |
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| 10:28.02 | Victor_ | hey |
| 10:28.15 | Fuji-san | you compiled a new combination of two already existing words there's a difference Sh|fty ... :-) |
| 10:28.36 | Sh|fty | i made up a new word and you cant take that away from me :p |
| 10:28.40 | Fuji-san | :p |
| 10:28.43 | Fuji-san | i just did lmao |
| 10:28.45 | Fuji-san | :P |
| 10:28.56 | Fuji-san | the power of nuances :) |
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| 10:29.14 | spdf | You should take his dignity next. |
| 10:29.25 | Sh|fty | the power of liveing in a contry who is good at sport :p |
| 10:29.26 | Fuji-san | Sh|fty: language is also open source :) |
| 10:29.29 | Sh|fty | and spelling :p |
| 10:29.36 | Fuji-san | :P |
| 10:29.41 | spdf | and grammer. ;) |
| 10:29.48 | Fuji-san | i tend to mix english with dutch lmao :) |
| 10:30.04 | spdf | Some engrutch. Or Dutrish? |
| 10:30.05 | Fuji-san | spelling in dutch is also spelling |
| 10:30.08 | Fuji-san | :p |
| 10:30.23 | Guerin | Sh|fty: get back to me when you can play rugby again |
| 10:30.28 | spdf | Similar to Fringlish, and Ench. |
| 10:30.33 | Marxist | is dutch low german or high german |
| 10:30.39 | Guerin | Marxist: neither |
| 10:30.45 | Fuji-san | dutch and german are nothing alike |
| 10:30.46 | Guerin | Marxist: it's dutch |
| 10:30.51 | Marxist | in terms of spelling |
| 10:31.02 | Guerin | Marxist: nope. really different. |
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| 10:31.13 | Fuji-san | Marxist: i live 11 kilometers away from german border and i cant even speak it |
| 10:31.22 | Fuji-san | i can understand it a bit but thats it |
| 10:31.26 | Guerin | linguistically similar, but that don't mean mutually intelligible |
| 10:31.32 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 10:31.42 | Marxist | sorry i am confused with someother nationality |
| 10:31.54 | Guerin | Marxist: perhaps swiss-german |
| 10:32.01 | Marxist | no |
| 10:32.21 | Fuji-san | :))) |
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| 10:32.58 | Fuji-san | i prefer chatting in engish to dutch cuz dutch has weird letter combination not suited for two finger typing lmao |
| 10:33.00 | Fuji-san | :) |
| 10:33.14 | spdf | Fuji-san, Can't hunt-and-peck in dutch? |
| 10:33.26 | Fuji-san | ?? |
| 10:33.32 | Fuji-san | whats peck? |
| 10:33.47 | spdf | Fuji-san, Hmm.. Birds do it. They "peck" at the ground for food. |
| 10:33.53 | Fuji-san | lol kk |
| 10:34.03 | Fuji-san | pikken :) |
| 10:34.04 | spdf | Fuji-san, "Hunt and Peck" is typing with one finger on each hand. |
| 10:34.32 | Fuji-san | well i started to use two fingers on both hands |
| 10:34.53 | Fuji-san | i can find the keys blind by the way but never had a course for it |
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| 10:36.48 | Fuji-san | Btw i use dragon naturally speaking to make my papers :) |
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| 10:37.07 | Marxist | Guerin. i meant dutch all along |
| 10:37.16 | Guerin | Marxist: oh, ok. |
| 10:37.38 | Marxist | Guerin. turns out there are different dialects that make a german-dutch continuum |
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| 10:37.42 | Fuji-san | Marxist: french and english are a good example of how one language can become something totally different |
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| 10:37.50 | Fuji-san | alot of simularities there also |
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| 10:37.56 | Guerin | Marxist: hrm, really. |
| 10:38.00 | Fuji-san | but not alike in anyway |
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| 10:38.19 | Fuji-san | its the same with german and dutch Marxist |
| 10:38.46 | sandman | Anyone here aware of how to get dchroot -d to work with a gentoo chroot? |
| 10:38.51 | Marxist | Guerin, they diverged due to political seperations, so im not surprised they are different |
| 10:39.21 | Guerin | Marxist: my grandmother always hated the germans ... because of the war. |
| 10:39.37 | Fuji-san | Guerin: they started 2 wars even |
| 10:39.41 | Guerin | Marxist: she refuses to speak german, even though she can ... even when she goes to germany. |
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| 10:39.47 | Guerin | Fuji-san: right. |
| 10:39.53 | Fuji-san | my grandpa was an infant during the first and a young man during the second |
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| 10:40.19 | Fuji-san | if it wasnt for Russia germany would have won the war |
| 10:40.28 | peterS | Marxist: dutch is related to low german |
| 10:40.29 | sandman | Why aren't you people talking about this stuff in #politics? |
| 10:40.40 | Fuji-san | lolz |
| 10:40.50 | Marxist | peterS, yes i know that |
| 10:40.52 | peterS | sandman: Sunday came at least 12 hours early this week |
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| 10:40.58 | Fuji-san | its more history then politics sandman |
| 10:41.00 | peterS | Marxist: no you don't, you had to ask whether it was low german or high german |
| 10:41.05 | sandman | peterS: Oh yeah? |
| 10:41.10 | Sh|fty | bbs soon need to fix sshd on server |
| 10:41.14 | peterS | Marxist: if you know the answer to a question, it's usually best not to ask |
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| 10:41.23 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 10:41.47 | peterS | sandman: lots of drunks in here in the past few hours, it's like Sunday on Friday night |
| 10:41.56 | sandman | Well, Russia was a PITA for Germany. I think Barbarossa put the nail in the coffin, though. If Hitler wasn't such a moron, and had instead listened to his military advisors.. |
| 10:41.58 | Marxist | peterS, i was just making sure, i don't always believe what i read |
| 10:42.01 | spdf | dpkg, sing sunday |
| 10:42.01 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 10:42.11 | sandman | Germany would have won. Hitler was Germany's greatest strength and weakness, imho. |
| 10:42.19 | sandman | He got a big head, imho. |
| 10:42.25 | sandman | With extra imho-ness. |
| 10:42.28 | Fuji-san | haha be glad about it :) |
| 10:42.32 | Guerin | goddamn |
| 10:42.40 | Guerin | i'm sorry i started this |
| 10:42.47 | Guerin | DON'T MENTION THE WAR |
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| 10:42.51 | Guerin | ok? |
| 10:42.52 | sandman | Just take it to #politics |
| 10:43.10 | Fuji-san | Guerin: you have a big @ |
| 10:43.11 | Fuji-san | :P |
| 10:43.14 | Marxist | peterS, would take long for me to find out by going back to the book shelf but a national of the netherlands might help me determine the answer to my question quicker |
| 10:43.36 | Fuji-san | i am dutch Marxist |
| 10:43.43 | peterS | Marxist: so when someone answers a question you specifically asked, it's not a good idea to look annoyed and say "I already knew that" |
| 10:43.45 | Fuji-san | and i disagree with your findings |
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| 10:44.20 | sandman | I like chicken. |
| 10:44.23 | Marxist | sandman, russia is too big to conquer. Stalin started preparing for war since the 20's |
| 10:44.37 | sandman | I'd also like to know the answer to my aforementioned question :) |
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| 10:44.53 | lord_rob | Hi ! I've tried eclipse 3.1 package. It works but very slowly on my Athlon t-bird 900. Is it normal or is it a specific problem ? |
| 10:44.57 | yang26 | what is the package name for using virtual private servers? |
| 10:44.58 | Marxist | he moved all manufacturing plants safely to siberia |
| 10:45.07 | peterS | Marxist: we don't want to hear about hitler. we don't want to hear about stalin. got it yet? |
| 10:45.10 | sandman | Marxist: Too big to conquer? After WW2, the US could have easily flattened Russia, but the decision was made to maintain peace instead |
| 10:45.13 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 10:45.20 | Marxist | peterS, i wasn't speaking with you |
| 10:45.23 | Fuji-san | Marxist: move to #politics |
| 10:45.34 | valdyn | sandman: can you please stop spamming off topic revisionist history bullshit |
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| 10:45.45 | Marxist | my dialogue was clearly between me and Guerin |
| 10:46.02 | Fuji-san | lol |
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| 10:46.27 | peterS | Marxist: doesn't matter. it's off-topic, please disconnect your keyboard |
| 10:46.33 | Fuji-san | lol |
| 10:46.49 | Marxist | peterS, go hang you self with your intestines |
| 10:46.51 | peterS | if it's a PS/2 one, you'll want to power down first, it's not safe to just unplug a keyboard from a running machine |
| 10:46.52 | sandman | Marxist: Go to #politics you panzy. |
| 10:47.28 | Frosted | hm, quite sneaky #politics spam going on :D |
| 10:47.31 | sandman | I'm sorry, I didn't have to say "you panzy", that was inappropriate. Sorry |
| 10:47.34 | Fuji-san | :P |
| 10:47.37 | kenboo | anyone recommend me a video stream server like RealMedia server? |
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| 10:47.55 | sandman | Frosted: I know, but I can get away with it because I'm using it to persuade a marxist. |
| 10:48.16 | sandman | Nobody likes a commie. :) (and if you disagree with this, by all means... #politics) Okay, I'm done now. |
| 10:48.17 | Fuji-san | Are you the propieter of #politics sandman ? |
| 10:48.23 | Frosted | hehe |
| 10:48.27 | Fuji-san | proprieter* |
| 10:48.27 | sandman | Anyway, could someone please help me with my question that I asked about 10 minutes ago? |
| 10:48.33 | sandman | Fuji-san: I helped found it, yes. |
| 10:48.40 | Fuji-san | ;) |
| 10:48.43 | sandman | And now it's rather popular. I'm happy with it. |
| 10:48.44 | peterS | shut up about #politics already. just go there. yes, I mean you. |
| 10:48.48 | Fuji-san | hahaha |
| 10:49.14 | Frosted | yes, seriously, this is NOT #politics, so let's stop talking about #politics here! |
| 10:49.20 | qpee | when i boot my debian server which is connected to a lan its not pingable from windows boxes from its hostname "debian". do i somehow have to register it in the network on boot so it can be reached? it's pingable using the dhcp given ip address thoough |
| 10:49.23 | Frosted | :D |
| 10:49.30 | sandman | Agreed. lol |
| 10:49.31 | peterS | Frosted: shut up about #politics already. just go there. yes, I mean you. |
| 10:49.46 | Fuji-san | lolz |
| 10:49.47 | valdyn | qpee: that is what nameservers are for, no nameserver, no name lookups |
| 10:49.51 | sandman | :) |
| 10:50.12 | valdyn | qpee: ( though you could add that to the hosts file on each box, windows has that too ) |
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| 10:50.27 | sandman | Guerin: You know, there are definately going to be trolltards there. You can't censor political discussions like that. You just have to use /ignore to your hearts desire. |
| 10:50.43 | peterS | sandman: shut up about #politics already. just go there. yes, I mean you. |
| 10:50.48 | Fuji-san | lolz |
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| 10:51.04 | Guerin | sandman: i know. |
| 10:51.08 | Fuji-san | So whats the user policy for debian :) ? |
| 10:51.27 | peterS | user policy for debian? debian is free software, we let anyone use it |
| 10:51.38 | Fuji-san | copyleft? |
| 10:51.42 | Fuji-san | GPL |
| 10:51.43 | peterS | not necessarily |
| 10:52.00 | valdyn | Fuji-san: dfsg |
| 10:52.09 | Fuji-san | ?? |
| 10:52.16 | peterS | Fuji-san: read http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines, particularly points 5 and 6 |
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| 10:52.22 | peterS | Fuji-san: that's our user policy |
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| 10:52.47 | Fuji-san | k |
| 10:53.06 | qpee | valdyn, woould a workaround be to install a samba server and thus introduce the server to the windows network? |
| 10:53.29 | valdyn | qpee: I dont think so |
| 10:53.36 | valdyn | qpee: just edit windows hosts file i suppose |
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| 10:54.20 | valdyn | qpee: alternatively install a nameserver on your linux box and make windows use that one. 'dnsmasq' is simple to install / maintain |
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| 10:55.11 | valdyn | qpee: windows uses netbios name lookups, ( additionally to dns ), i dont know if or to what extent linux or samba can support that |
| 10:55.40 | peterS | valdyn: I think winbind can export netbios names to NSS. I haven't tried it. |
| 10:56.29 | valdyn | qpee: oh, apt-cache show winbind |
| 10:56.37 | peterS | netbios was never meant to describe machine names though. it describes services, many of which can live on a single machine, and no one of which is particularly critical |
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| 10:57.36 | peterS | it can be *used* to describe machine names, but that's stretching the model a bit |
| 10:58.21 | qpee | valdyn, and can i use that to resolve the linux pc names? |
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| 10:59.13 | valdyn | qpee: no idea, i'd use dnsmasq ( i actually do use that ) |
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| 11:00.46 | qpee | valdyn, the problem is that the server is not on all the time and the router actually does the dhcp. i cant use the hosts file of windows as the client get new ip adress on every boot |
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| 11:03.25 | valdyn | qpee: your router cant give out IPs dependent on MACs? |
| 11:03.43 | valdyn | qpee: ( in order to each each client the same IP each time ) |
| 11:03.57 | RichiH | qpee: most routers can give out static leases |
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| 11:04.33 | L0g0ff | hello, on the moment i run debian testing. My apt source = deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib. My kernel is 2.6.8-2-k7. I want to download the kernel header for my kernel (2.6) but the only header i can get is for kernel 2.4. How can i get my kernel headers with apt-get? |
| 11:05.00 | valdyn | L0g0ff: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 11:05.29 | DarKnesS_WolF | why gaim 1.5.1CVS is in testing debian !? |
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| 11:05.37 | valdyn | L0g0ff: but if you are using testing and running a kernel that is not supported by testing, which you are indeed, then that does not work. |
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| 11:05.51 | valdyn | L0g0ff: your headers are in stable though |
| 11:05.57 | Guerin | DarKnesS_WolF: because the maintainer thought it was ready, and apparently so did the users |
| 11:06.09 | hectorino75 | hello, anyone knows what had happens with k3b package in testing distribution? |
| 11:06.10 | L0g0ff | my headers a devel |
| 11:06.19 | L0g0ff | my headers are devel |
| 11:06.23 | L0g0ff | i think |
| 11:07.05 | L0g0ff | when i dist upgrade to unstable... can i get my kernel headers? |
| 11:07.17 | valdyn | L0g0ff: nope, they are in stable only |
| 11:07.29 | L0g0ff | so now i have a problem? |
| 11:07.46 | valdyn | L0g0ff: why is that a problem? |
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| 11:08.15 | L0g0ff | i really want to download my 2.6 headers with apt-get |
| 11:08.27 | L0g0ff | and i cannot downgrade to stable |
| 11:08.30 | valdyn | L0g0ff: its easier to download them with your webbrowser |
| 11:08.31 | Guerin | L0g0ff: change your kernel |
| 11:08.32 | Marxist | qpee, why the need to ping the debian machine from your windows boxes? |
| 11:08.47 | Guerin | L0g0ff: or add a stable line to sources.list |
| 11:08.51 | Tank- | Question, Ive got 200 odd debian box's need to keep track of package versions for each machine in a central location. i figured surely someone else has had this problem but can't find anything. (sorry to repeat) If someone knows theres not anything thats helpful also, Ill start writing my own. |
| 11:08.54 | L0g0ff | so i must change my kernel back to 2.4 ? |
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| 11:09.08 | valdyn | !fai |
| 11:09.08 | dpkg | i guess fai is Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
| 11:09.23 | L0g0ff | ok i'll try that stable trick |
| 11:09.40 | valdyn | Tank-: not sure what you are trying to achieve |
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| 11:10.11 | Marxist | valdyn, he wants central software management on a network with many boxes |
| 11:10.20 | Tank- | a machine with a database with package installed and version tracking for every machine. |
| 11:10.49 | Tank- | valdyn: yea like Marxist said :) |
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| 11:11.28 | valdyn | Tank-: have you looked at cfengine2 ? |
| 11:12.02 | strahler | debian sid. I only get kernel-image-2.6.13.4 with apt-cache search. Will there be any headers oder else? |
| 11:12.08 | Miesco | I have a SMB printer set up, I can print postscript stuff but when I do like: echo TEST | lpr, I get like 4 pages of crap |
| 11:12.17 | Miesco | Do I need a filter or something? |
| 11:12.26 | valdyn | strahler: thats not a sid package, thats your own selfmade one |
| 11:12.35 | valdyn | strahler: apt-cache search linux-image |
| 11:13.18 | valdyn | Miesco: lpr will assume that TEST is postscript data i guess |
| 11:13.32 | strahler | now I see all for 2.6.12 |
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| 11:14.12 | SpamHog | on my laptop nw doesn't come up as PCMCIA is slow in loading; I need to issue "ifup -a" several seconds after end of boot; what's the rigth plalce to put a script? (rc.X all get run too early!) |
| 11:15.04 | Guerin | SpamHog: bootmisc |
| 11:15.26 | Miesco | valdyn: What do I do? |
| 11:15.36 | SpamHog | Guerin: looking, thanks. |
| 11:15.46 | valdyn | Miesco: do you really want to print the letters 'TEST' like that? |
| 11:16.03 | Miesco | valdyn: Well, it also does not work if I print from a program like kwrite |
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| 11:16.14 | peterS | valdyn: he wants to print a test page of ascii. I used to do 'lpr /etc/passwd' for the same effect |
| 11:16.55 | peterS | that sometimes gives stair-stepping, of course, since some printers are very literal about LF not being equivalent to CRLF |
| 11:17.35 | valdyn | Miesco: use 'lpr someascifile', otherwise lpr wont grok that is asci that has to be converted to ps first. iirc |
| 11:17.44 | peterS | shad0wcat: yeah, my passwd file are so interesting - two or three dozen system accounts, and me. and no encrypted passwords to be seen. |
| 11:17.54 | shad0wcat | bah |
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| 11:18.01 | shad0wcat | you should do lpr /etc/shadow |
| 11:18.06 | shad0wcat | ;) |
| 11:18.16 | dagg | yellow |
| 11:18.19 | Miesco | valdyn: Still does not work |
| 11:18.22 | peterS | shad0wcat: yeah but that generally just says "permission denied" and prints nothing at all. not a very good print test |
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| 11:18.33 | shad0wcat | peterS: do it as root |
| 11:18.34 | shad0wcat | >:) |
| 11:18.47 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 11:18.47 | peterS | oh, right. I'll make a note of that |
| 11:18.47 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 11:19.08 | Miesco | valdyn: Perhaps I need a filter? |
| 11:19.18 | Miesco | valdyn: How do I check if I have a filter? |
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| 11:19.29 | valdyn | Miesco: perhaps you need to setup your printer, what did you do to setup your printer? |
| 11:19.40 | dagg | I have some questions, can I install a program under normal user at /usr/share or chance files that are installed the has an normal user? |
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| 11:20.04 | peterS | Miesco: are you using cupsys or lpr or lprng? I'm not sure if you mentioned this or not |
| 11:20.13 | Miesco | valdyn: I used control-center, then went ot periferals, then printers |
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| 11:20.20 | dorto | how to add a command to gnome menu? |
| 11:20.20 | Miesco | peterS: cupsys |
| 11:20.33 | dorto | in installed emacs21 in debian but no menu item is created :( |
| 11:20.38 | valdyn | Miesco: what printer is it? |
| 11:20.46 | peterS | Miesco: make sure you have the 'cupsys-bsd' package installed. if you instead have 'lpr' installed, it won't work as well |
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| 11:21.10 | Miesco | Photosmart p1000, and also Brother HL-4050 |
| 11:21.21 | Miesco | peterS: Yea I got it, and lpr is uninstalled |
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| 11:21.27 | valdyn | Miesco: that's a postscript printer? |
| 11:21.36 | Tortel | try foomatic-gui package |
| 11:21.38 | SpamHog | Guerin: can't info - find - locate - apt-get "bootmisc" for late-launching "ifup -a" script. What is it? |
| 11:21.56 | valdyn | Miesco: grep HINT /var/log/cups/error_log |
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| 11:22.11 | dagg | anyone? |
| 11:22.15 | peterS | SpamHog: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, he probably means |
| 11:22.23 | peterS | SpamHog: it's on your system already |
| 11:22.26 | SpamHog | thanks! |
| 11:22.43 | Miesco | valdyn: Nothing |
| 11:22.50 | qpee | are there known problems with apache2, webdav and winxp? i have configured it on debian and i can't login with my userdata i configured on linux. without that authentification i can connect. but as soon as i use basic auth it fails withiut any error message i could use for investigation |
| 11:23.03 | valdyn | !cups setup |
| 11:23.03 | dpkg | cups setup is, like, Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy! |
| 11:23.16 | stdoubt | dagg: if u want that kind of user control just install to /home |
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| 11:24.02 | Guerin | SpamHog: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
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| 11:24.07 | Guerin | oh, sorry |
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| 11:24.10 | Guerin | yeah |
| 11:24.32 | Miesco | I didn't have cupsomatic-ppd |
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| 11:24.48 | peterS | qpee: webdav is probably a bit nontrivial to get the auth working right - I haven't done it myself but I've configured apache auth and that's annoying enough. can you verify that this works with other clients, so you can narrow it down to whether it's a winxp problem or an apache+webdav problem? |
| 11:24.52 | Guerin | SpamHog: the shart-and-hard-work way is to fix your boot sequence, but I use bootmisc myself for the same problem |
| 11:24.58 | Guerin | s/shart/smart/ |
| 11:25.14 | procrastinator | does anyone have an idea on drivers for Canon Pixma printers? |
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| 11:25.24 | qpee | peterS, i just did that, it's a general non-winxp-related auth problem. |
| 11:26.02 | qpee | peterS: for testing i chmoded the auth-db-file to 777 and reran everything. nothing. i tried using cadaver, konqueror, and windows-explorer |
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| 11:26.45 | peterS | qpee: well, to answer your question, I don't know of any debian-specific problems with either apache2 or mod_dav. whatever the problem is, it's probably a generic thing with apache2 or mod_dav |
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| 11:28.20 | qpee | i will try my luck in #apache, as well. i posted it there too, but wasn't sure if it's known error on deb sarge, somewhere |
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| 11:31.14 | Marxist | qpee, apache can be very complicated |
| 11:32.29 | Marxist | qpee, try looking for some books about it on o'reilly |
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| 11:33.55 | Miesco | When I use the enscript text filter I get this: The MIME type application/postscript is not supported as input of the filter chain (this may happen with non-CUPS spoolers when performing page selection on a non-PostScript file). Do you want KDE to convert the file to a supported format? |
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| 11:34.39 | Marxist | try it |
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| 11:41.02 | sett | can anyone tell me why the resolution is different when I run kdm and when I run startx under user, don't they use XF86Config-4 both? |
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| 11:43.33 | Miesco | I cant even print pictures |
| 11:43.39 | Miesco | The test page worked... |
| 11:43.56 | yang | anyone using virtual private servers ? |
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| 11:47.53 | tarzeau | how can i do something in a makefile only if somefile exists? |
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| 11:48.15 | lupo | hola gente.. tengo una preg.. |
| 11:48.55 | lupo | tengo una red inalambrica configurada a la ath lo que quiero es compartir la red hacia la eth0 |
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| 11:50.00 | Miesco | I cant print anything, the test page worked, but I cant print anything else... |
| 11:50.22 | Miesco | ahh |
| 11:50.29 | Miesco | It works on my other printer!! |
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| 11:50.49 | Neverth | hehe, xserver totally disabled (won't work) and i still can watch the series and irc at the same console (/meh likes mplayer) |
| 11:50.50 | remedy | I have a usb optical mouse with a scroll button.. using a ps2 converter which came free with it.. but can anyone tell me how i can get the scroll button working or link me to a place to read some info on it |
| 11:51.21 | resiak | Hmm, so I'm sshing from an Etch box to a Sarge box, and the Sarge box is moaning about not knowing anything about TERM=rxvt-unicode. I know that this is fixable, because my own Sarge box is fine with it. Any clues as to what termcap mungings are needed? |
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| 11:51.55 | Neverth | remedy, its in the conf of xfree |
| 11:52.02 | Neverth | or should be |
| 11:52.09 | remedy | Neverth: yea, but what mouse protocol :) |
| 11:52.21 | Neverth | my logitech uses imps2 |
| 11:52.26 | Guerin | resiak: i had this when the default screen(1) in debian changed its term to screen.linux |
| 11:52.32 | remedy | imps2 ok will try that |
| 11:52.36 | resiak | Guerin: Yes, and I fixed that too, and just can't remember how :) |
| 11:52.39 | Guerin | resiak: the solution: export TERM=screen |
| 11:52.45 | resiak | Guerin: That's not a good solution : |
| 11:52.57 | Guerin | resiak: no, it's a GREAT solutioin |
| 11:53.02 | resiak | Guerin: LIES |
| 11:53.37 | Guerin | resiak: it FORCES you to use screen for everything! How coulf that be bad! |
| 11:53.39 | Neverth | Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" |
| 11:53.39 | Neverth | Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" |
| 11:53.39 | Neverth | Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 11:53.44 | resiak | Guerin: ... |
| 11:53.57 | SpamHog | My pcmcia comes alive way too late.... even putting "ifup eth0" in bootmisc.sh runs it too early. Where can I tack on that command to run after graphic login? |
| 11:54.02 | resiak | Guerin: _screen_ doesn't recognise rxvt-unicode, so your solution is wrong. HTH HAND ;) |
| 11:54.49 | Guerin | resiak: wth, omg, wfm. |
| 11:54.54 | resiak | Guerin: Heh |
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| 11:55.32 | remedy | Neverth: aha, worked thx.. another problem is when i switch to console i like using gpm.. but going back to x i have to disable it. is there anyway of getting gpm and xmouse working together? |
| 11:55.55 | Neverth | ...? mine work without problem |
| 11:55.58 | N0S3 | hello remedy: |
| 11:56.04 | mtnman | !tell remedy about gpm |
| 11:56.06 | Neverth | +s |
| 11:57.02 | peterS | !gpm+x |
| 11:57.02 | dpkg | i heard gpm+x is how to install gpm and X to share your mouse. 'dpkg-reconfigure gpm', use 'repeat_type=ms3' and your correct mouse type (often "autops2"), and configure X to use Option "Device" "/dev/gpmdata" and Option "Protocol" "Intellimouse", regardless of your actual mouse type. |
| 11:57.56 | Neverth | ...lol, mine work both in /dev/psaux with imps proto |
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| 11:58.39 | peterS | Neverth: that will *sometimes* work, yes |
| 11:58.55 | Neverth | ive never had problems with that |
| 11:59.04 | Neverth | it always works |
| 11:59.10 | peterS | lots of people have never had problems with lots of things that are not really recommended |
| 11:59.42 | peterS | I've even heard one or two people say they've never had problems with reiserfs or windows 98 |
| 11:59.47 | Neverth | hehe yep, but nowdays (happened today) that my x won't work |
| 12:00.04 | Neverth | while reinstalling it just hangs |
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| 12:00.42 | peterS | if you use kernel 2.6, you can safely tell gpm and X to both use /dev/psaux, but make sure to disable the gpm repeater in that case. ('dpkg-reconfigure gpm', choose repeat type 'none') |
| 12:02.07 | Neverth | device=/dev/psaux |
| 12:02.09 | Neverth | responsiveness=15 |
| 12:02.09 | Neverth | repeat_type=ms3 |
| 12:02.09 | Neverth | type=imps2 |
| 12:02.09 | Neverth | append='' |
| 12:02.09 | Neverth | sample_rate= |
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| 12:03.20 | Neverth | teh spam i shall give |
| 12:03.21 | peterS | Never^: thank you for pasting. do not paste. I also told you to disable the repeater. I told you this for a reason. |
| 12:03.37 | peterS | Neverth: ^^^ |
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| 12:04.32 | Never^ | peterS, ayh? |
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| 12:04.43 | Neverth | as long as something works i don't wanna do it anything *grin* |
| 12:04.46 | peterS | Never^: comment directed to the other never guy |
| 12:04.53 | Never^ | k |
| 12:04.56 | peterS | Neverth: I thought you said it stopped working |
| 12:05.11 | Neverth | xserver stopped |
| 12:05.18 | Neverth | not mouse |
| 12:05.38 | peterS | the whole x server stopped? that's kind of bad. do you have reason to believe it is mouse-related? |
| 12:05.46 | Neverth | no |
| 12:05.51 | Neverth | it wont reinstall |
| 12:06.11 | Neverth | i asked earlier if the package was broken |
| 12:06.15 | Neverth | but they say it isn't |
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| 12:07.06 | peterS | I'm guessing you are using kernel 2.6 |
| 12:07.13 | Neverth | yes |
| 12:07.14 | Neverth | ? |
| 12:07.31 | peterS | with kernel 2.4, you would have other problems due to the 'repeat_type=ms3' line |
| 12:07.48 | peterS | you upgraded to a version of gpm which mistakenly adds a repeat_type parameter to your config when you didn't have one |
| 12:08.03 | peterS | we fixed that bug but I don't think we've uploaded the package since the fix went in |
| 12:08.11 | Neverth | bah |
| 12:08.37 | peterS | with kernel 2.6, enabling the gpm repeater is harmless in your situation. with kernel 2.4 it would cause a bit of chaos |
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| 12:10.42 | Neverth | still, any idea why it hand while installing xfree? it jammed on preconfiguring packages |
| 12:10.57 | peterS | I can't think what would cause that, no |
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| 12:11.07 | peterS | any particular error message? |
| 12:11.18 | Neverth | no, it just hangs |
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| 12:11.40 | peterS | maybe one of the helper programs, like read-edid or mdetect, is hanging |
| 12:11.45 | peterS | you could remove those if they are installed |
| 12:11.54 | mattfury | someone guide me through getting a kernel with ntfs. |
| 12:11.59 | peterS | (they are optional, for hardware detection) |
| 12:11.59 | Neverth | and when doing dpkg -i on the package in /var/cache/apt/ar.. it jammed on unpacking package |
| 12:12.11 | mattfury | pleaseee? |
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| 12:12.31 | peterS | mattfury: debian kernels have the ntfs driver that comes with the kernel. just mount a filesystem as type ntfs. |
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| 12:13.01 | Neverth | does package kernels have write support? |
| 12:13.06 | Neverth | for ntfs |
| 12:13.20 | dli | peterS, how to use ntfs write? weird, you can only write with exactly the same length |
| 12:13.30 | dorto | is there an application in debian, kind of scratch pad, where i can keep jotting down some text and later save it or delete it? |
| 12:13.32 | peterS | Neverth: last I checked, *nobody* has write support for ntfs. I mean, it exists, but except in limited circumstances it is dangerous to use |
| 12:13.37 | dorto | can create multiple pages etc |
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| 12:13.49 | valdyn | dorto: like sticky notes? |
| 12:13.54 | mattfury | how do i find which hda is the ntfs?? |
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| 12:14.00 | dorto | valdyn: its an app? |
| 12:14.04 | mattfury | there is only one, and im tired. |
| 12:14.07 | mattfury | extremely. |
| 12:14.13 | dorto | valdyn: stand alone app? |
| 12:14.16 | dli | peterS, I need this feature now. I got some spyware in windows, files can not be deleted in windows |
| 12:14.16 | peterS | mattfury: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 12:14.17 | raghu | mattfury: recompile the kernel |
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| 12:14.36 | mattfury | apt-get install what? |
| 12:14.36 | valdyn | dorto: well, its something you can buy, 'sticky notes', there's plenty little tools emulating this |
| 12:14.45 | dorto | oh |
| 12:14.46 | bin22 | installing apache-ssl-2.x with php, should I choose worker or pre-fork if using php5 ? Question about "thread-safe" warning in apache-2-ssl and php-4.x, resolved in php-5? Debian stable using dot-deb thanks. |
| 12:14.55 | dli | peterS, perhaps, I can use linux ntfs write to nuke those files, like padding \0 for all bytes |
| 12:15.02 | bin22 | slightly aware of thread safe controversy a while back, didn't follow too closely as I'm using apache 1.3.x without php for now, don't know php yet |
| 12:15.03 | peterS | dli: you may have some luck with 'ntfscp' from the ntfsprogs package |
| 12:15.04 | dorto | valdyn: some examples? |
| 12:15.16 | peterS | dli: or 'ntfsmount' from the same package |
| 12:15.17 | valdyn | dorto: apt-cache search sticky notes |
| 12:15.18 | _SerhaT_ | dli: captive-ntfs can help you out then.. but only use it if you really need too.. OR you can use a bootable windows cd to remove the files no? |
| 12:15.22 | dorto | ok |
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| 12:15.54 | mattfury | peterS, no such partition but its there o_0 |
| 12:16.12 | mattfury | ohh i did it as an extended partition i think ... :( |
| 12:16.32 | peterS | mattfury: well, or it could be a "dynamic disk", which fdisk does not really know about |
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| 12:16.54 | mattfury | peterS, |
| 12:16.56 | Neverth | "files can not be deleted in windows" <-- wrong |
| 12:17.01 | mattfury | /dev/hda5 6375 9729 26949006 7 HPFS/NTFS |
| 12:17.07 | dli | _SerhaT_, it's clean in linux :) |
| 12:17.31 | peterS | mattfury: there you go then. hda5 is the first logical drive in your extended partition. (numbering starts with 5 because you can have up to 4 primary partitions) |
| 12:17.48 | peterS | (and because 0 is reserved to represent the "whole disk", so primary partitions start at 1) |
| 12:17.48 | mattfury | how do i convert it? |
| 12:17.49 | dli | _SerhaT_, if you want to try, I would like to give you spyware, and you have some fun there |
| 12:17.55 | peterS | mattfury: convert it to what? |
| 12:18.01 | mattfury | primary. :/ |
| 12:18.34 | _SerhaT_ | no way.. but dli what I meant was.. use a windows boot cd.. which will only mount the hd.. not run anything.. like one of those live cd's.. then you should be able to remove the files.. |
| 12:18.39 | _SerhaT_ | done that earlier |
| 12:18.42 | peterS | mattfury: I don't think you easily can, without losing data or hitting bits directly |
| 12:18.59 | mattfury | damn eh? |
| 12:19.00 | yang | I have a moving ant "inside" my LCD screen |
| 12:19.14 | peterS | mattfury: does it need to be a primary partition? why? |
| 12:19.24 | peterS | yang: nah, it's just me typing |
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| 12:19.40 | dli | _SerhaT_, where can I get such a cd? |
| 12:19.42 | mattfury | peterS, i dont know. |
| 12:19.51 | dorto | how to add something to the gnome menu? |
| 12:19.54 | mattfury | i just want it mounted to copy to download ...!! |
| 12:19.57 | _SerhaT_ | dli: look for bartpe on google.. to create your own |
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| 12:20.06 | mattfury | cause im *fucking* tired. |
| 12:20.09 | peterS | mattfury: oh, just 'mount -r -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt' then |
| 12:20.14 | raghu | yang: :) |
| 12:20.42 | dli | _SerhaT_, then, I already got linux here :( |
| 12:20.48 | mattfury | peterS, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5, |
| 12:20.49 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.49 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.49 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:20.51 | dorto | can i put 'mount -o loop' for .iso files in fstab or its used only for mounting partitions? |
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| 12:21.03 | mattfury | sorry. |
| 12:21.04 | peterS | mattfury: "primary" vs. "extended" is quite unimportant except when actually creating the partition table, or when trying to boot Windows. some versions of Windows can only boot from a primary partition table |
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| 12:21.20 | valdyn | dorto: you could, though not literally |
| 12:21.22 | _SerhaT_ | dli: well try captive-ntfs then if you are so desperate, but such a cd will also come in handy for future problems.. so I would recommend the 2nd option |
| 12:21.24 | peterS | mattfury: does 'grep hda /proc/partitions' mention hda5? |
| 12:21.39 | dorto | valdyn: what would be the preferred way to do it then? |
| 12:21.49 | dorto | system wide profile file? |
| 12:21.54 | mattfury | peterS, doesnt do anything o_0 |
| 12:21.59 | dorto | is there any such thing? |
| 12:22.00 | valdyn | dorto: oh, just do it in fstab, like any regular fstab entry |
| 12:22.05 | dorto | k |
| 12:22.19 | peterS | mattfury: it shows nothing? that is very strange. make sure you typed exactly what I said |
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| 12:23.07 | Delfyn | anybody know a mirror of Marillat's mplayer debs which is accessible by rsync? |
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| 12:23.23 | kpkg | i'm using debian sid, gnome 2.12 is already availiable? i have try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade but nothing |
| 12:23.27 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.27 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.27 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.28 | mattfury | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:23.33 | dorto | haha |
| 12:23.35 | valdyn | kpkg: its not in sid |
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| 12:23.44 | mattfury | wtf? |
| 12:23.48 | peterS | mattfury: I thought you learned your lesson already about pasting stuff into the channel |
| 12:23.50 | mattfury | i msg'd |
| 12:24.01 | peterS | oh, so you did, but only one line |
| 12:24.04 | peterS | the rest went into the channel |
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| 12:24.15 | peterS | also, don't /msg that kind of stuff. either use a paste bot or ask people to join you in #flood |
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| 12:24.39 | Fubarovic | can i use packages from testing/unstable without actually upgrading every package to the testing/unstable version? |
| 12:24.45 | mattfury | i think i will start again. |
| 12:24.47 | peterS | mattfury: enough of your flood went through that I see what I was wondering about |
| 12:24.49 | mattfury | on downloads. |
| 12:25.05 | valdyn | Fubarovic: the better way would be to use a backport or backport yourself |
| 12:25.24 | kpkg | valdyn, is any non-offial link where i can install gnome 2.12 with apt-get? |
| 12:25.28 | peterS | mattfury: I had forgotten that 2.4 kernels still show devfs names in /proc/partitions - that explains why hda5 didn't show up, it's listed as ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 |
| 12:25.46 | dli | _SerhaT_, bartpe looks great, but not so straight forward to me, how to build the cd :( the same as captive, not for dumb ones like me |
| 12:25.52 | mattfury | peterS, so i need to update my kernel? |
| 12:26.05 | peterS | mattfury: well, that business is just an annoyance, no real problem |
| 12:26.09 | Fubarovic | valdyn, i'm using a guide on installing a mailserver with spam& viruskiller and it recommends using software from testing |
| 12:26.11 | valdyn | kpkg: most of it is in exerimental, but i really really do NOT RECOMMEND using that.. |
| 12:26.22 | peterS | mattfury: it's annoying because it gave you different output from /proc/partitions than I was expecting. but no big deal. |
| 12:26.32 | _SerhaT_ | dli: bartpe is rather easy.. if you don't need extra functionality just run the isoCreator.. choose your windows cd.. and just press next next.. should be done easily.. |
| 12:26.42 | valdyn | Fubarovic: whatever for, what i said above applies.. |
| 12:26.45 | mattfury | peterS, what command to install latest deb kernel with ntfs? |
| 12:26.48 | Delfyn | Fubarovic, or try using 'dpkg' to install it; if it fails because of missing dependencies or packages upgraded in testing/unstable then at least you don't screw up your pkg db or pull in stuff you didn't want too quickly. |
| 12:27.04 | peterS | mattfury: so anyway, does 'ls -l /dev/hda5' show /dev/hda5 as device "3, 5"? |
| 12:27.04 | Fubarovic | ah, good suggestion |
| 12:27.09 | valdyn | Fubarovic: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 12:27.19 | abrotman | peterS: you live! |
| 12:27.19 | Fubarovic | thx |
| 12:27.38 | mattfury | peterS, brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 5 2005-02-26 16:38 /dev/hda5 |
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| 12:27.58 | peterS | mattfury: right, that's entirely normal |
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| 12:28.10 | mattfury | peterS, what now? |
| 12:28.11 | peterS | mattfury: I wonder why it said the filesystem was not ntfs then |
| 12:28.26 | peterS | mattfury: what does this say? file - < /dev/hda5 |
| 12:28.27 | Fubarovic | ooh, i get it: with backports i only add a deb-src and build the unstable pkgs myself |
| 12:28.31 | Neverth | xpde XD theres a wm4u |
| 12:28.42 | Neverth | killme.... |
| 12:28.49 | peterS | Fubarovic: that's the theory. in practice some packages can be backported a lot more smoothly than others |
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| 12:29.02 | mattfury | /dev/stdin: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS ", sectors/cluster 128, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 63, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80) |
| 12:29.12 | mattfury | ? |
| 12:29.24 | peterS | mattfury: yeah, that's an NTFS filesystem. this is strange. |
| 12:29.31 | dli | _SerhaT_, a little trouble, it builds in windows, which spyware lives :( |
| 12:29.38 | Fubarovic | peterS, it's just a few pkgs i need, hope it'll work :) |
| 12:29.50 | peterS | Fubarovic: many things will work fine. a few things won't. |
| 12:29.54 | mattfury | peterS, what do we do to fixx it? |
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| 12:30.23 | peterS | mattfury: that's a good question. wait, is this WinXP? it may be that kernel 2.4.27 doesn't recognise the XP variant of NTFS, I can't remember now |
| 12:30.44 | peterS | mattfury: you *can* try upgrading to a newer kernel. 'apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6' will print a list of packages you can choose from |
| 12:31.08 | peterS | mattfury: so something like 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686', depending on your CPU type |
| 12:31.28 | mattfury | what about ntfs? is that pre-compiled? |
| 12:31.42 | peterS | mattfury: it's part of the kernel. you've got the version of ntfs that came with kernel 2.4.27, now. |
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| 12:32.47 | xaureus | hello, i encounter some problems while trying to format my USB Flash memory based mp3 player |
| 12:32.57 | xaureus | bestmedia:~# mkfs -t vfat -v /dev/sdb |
| 12:32.58 | xaureus | mkfs.vfat 2.10 (22 Sep 2003) |
| 12:32.58 | xaureus | mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdb' (use -I if wanted) |
| 12:33.07 | peterS | mattfury: I hate to suggest upgrading your entire kernel (and downloading a lot of megabytes in order to do so) just for the newer ntfs driver which we don't even know will help in your situation. but I don't know what else to try, honestly |
| 12:33.37 | mattfury | does anyone here??? |
| 12:33.58 | sha1sum | mattfury: restate your original question. :) |
| 12:34.04 | sha1sum | mattfury: I just woke up hehe |
| 12:34.19 | peterS | sha1sum: mount -t ntfs is rejecting his /dev/hda5, which seems to be a legitimate ntfs filesystem |
| 12:34.27 | abrotman | sha1sum: you lazy bum .. it's 830 |
| 12:34.37 | peterS | sha1sum: he's using kernel 2.4.27, I am suggesting trying his luck with 2.6.8 |
| 12:34.45 | abrotman | and he should |
| 12:34.50 | xaureus | can someone help me to format my usb flash disk ? |
| 12:34.50 | mattfury | =P luck |
| 12:34.53 | sha1sum | abrotman: well, lemme say that again: I woke up at quarter to 8, but just got here heh |
| 12:35.00 | raghu | peterS: he has ntfs support in his kernel? |
| 12:35.09 | abrotman | sha1sum: slacker! .. what could you possibly have been doing that was more important ? |
| 12:35.14 | sha1sum | peterS: ahh... |
| 12:35.18 | peterS | raghu: I assume so, if it's a Debian kernel he does. mattfury, this is a debian standard kernel you're using, right? |
| 12:35.21 | sha1sum | abrotman: coffee. |
| 12:35.22 | sha1sum | hehe |
| 12:35.25 | abrotman | ew |
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| 12:35.33 | Neverth | xaureus are you sure its /dev/sdb? |
| 12:35.34 | sha1sum | wtf do you mean "ew" ? |
| 12:35.38 | stdoubt | xaureus: have you tried cfdisk on it? |
| 12:35.41 | sha1sum | coffee 0wnz you |
| 12:35.45 | mattfury | peters, shalsum: fresh install |
| 12:35.52 | raghu | peterS: by default it dosnot supports |
| 12:35.56 | abrotman | i don't drink/like/like the smell of coffree |
| 12:36.00 | abrotman | coffee |
| 12:36.11 | peterS | raghu: the debian kernel images certainly do. well, let me double-check that |
| 12:36.25 | mattfury | 'coff-free' now with extra caffeine! |
| 12:36.28 | abrotman | they have read support anyways ... |
| 12:36.31 | raghu | peterS: it supports vfat |
| 12:36.44 | sha1sum | I don't like java, but coffee is da shizzle |
| 12:36.48 | Fubarovic | instead of using dpkg's help on backports, wouldn't it be easier do just download the testing deb of my pkg and install it with dpkg? |
| 12:36.55 | xaureus | stdoubt nope, wait a sec |
| 12:37.00 | abrotman | $ grep -i ntfs /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 12:37.01 | abrotman | CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m |
| 12:37.02 | xaureus | Neverth yes |
| 12:37.04 | raghu | peterS: ont thing he can do if it is not c drive in windows he can format it as vfat and then mount |
| 12:37.10 | abrotman | !prize peterS |
| 12:37.19 | Neverth | Fubarovic, depency problems sometimes |
| 12:37.21 | peterS | raghu: I think you might be surprised |
| 12:37.22 | abrotman | !lose raghu |
| 12:37.23 | PerfDave | Fubarovic: Not necessarily. The testing .deb will have testing dependencies, which will be annoying to install on a stable system and could cause problems with other applications. |
| 12:37.23 | dpkg | raghu: You Lose. |
| 12:37.26 | xaureus | Neverth check on #flood |
| 12:37.29 | mattfury | abrotman, does that mean it has ? |
| 12:37.44 | mattfury | !win mattfury |
| 12:37.45 | dpkg | Congratulations, mattfury! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 12:37.52 | abrotman | mattfury: it means afaik .. NTFS support is a module in 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 12:38.10 | mattfury | not 2.4? |
| 12:38.13 | mattfury | so update? |
| 12:38.19 | sha1sum | oOOoOooooOoo COASTERS!!! :D |
| 12:38.25 | peterS | mattfury: I just verified: yes, ntfs exists in kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 12:38.30 | mattfury | &&*reboot*## |
| 12:38.34 | PerfDave | abrotman: 2.4.27 has NTFS FS supoprt too |
| 12:38.37 | peterS | mattfury: but it may or may not be inferior to the version in 2.6.8 |
| 12:38.47 | abrotman | Matt_O: i don't have a 2.4 kernel installed . so i didn't check it |
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| 12:38.52 | peterS | mattfury: yes, after installing the kernel-image-2.6.8-whatever, you'll need to reboot |
| 12:39.18 | peterS | abrotman: yep. http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386&version=stable&arch=i386&page=19&number=50 |
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| 12:39.50 | xaureus | Neverth check this fdisk output: http://pastebin.com/409891 |
| 12:40.25 | abrotman | peterS: did he set options in fstab to make it ro instead of rw ? |
| 12:40.39 | peterS | abrotman: doesn't matter for the command line I gave him |
| 12:40.43 | abrotman | ok |
| 12:40.46 | peterS | abrotman: I told him 'mount -r -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt' |
| 12:41.07 | peterS | xaureus: looks like a completely random partition table. i.e., completely invalid |
| 12:41.18 | abrotman | okeedokee |
| 12:41.42 | sha1sum | I think we have a lake named something like that in Florida |
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| 12:42.00 | abrotman | yes |
| 12:42.05 | abrotman | okeechobee iirc |
| 12:42.09 | peterS | sha1sum: what of it, we have a cryptographic hash algorithm named after you, too |
| 12:42.10 | sha1sum | oooooohhhhhh |
| 12:42.12 | sha1sum | lol |
| 12:42.28 | sha1sum | peterS: what?!? I thought I was being original with this nick. :( |
| 12:42.36 | abrotman | and i haven't heard that name in .. 10+ years ? |
| 12:42.38 | dorto | anyone knows a wiki software that i can install using apt-get? |
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| 12:42.53 | dorto | for hosting wiki pages |
| 12:43.04 | peterS | dorto: apt-cache search wiki engine |
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| 12:43.07 | PerfDave | dorto: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:43.08 | ivan_ | apt-cache search wiki |
| 12:43.09 | peterS | dorto: apt-cache search wiki server |
| 12:43.15 | dorto | k |
| 12:43.20 | peterS | dorto: you get slightly different search results with those two queries |
| 12:43.38 | sha1sum | I count three |
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| 12:43.45 | mattfury | ok |
| 12:43.49 | sha1sum | ? |
| 12:43.51 | Neverth | xaureus try mounting sdb1, sdb2 etc, my muvo didn't go with sda but as sda1 it went fine |
| 12:43.53 | mattfury | what command to mount? |
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| 12:44.06 | peterS | mattfury: mount -r -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt |
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| 12:44.22 | mattfury | done??? |
| 12:44.33 | peterS | mattfury: 'ls -F /mnt' to verify |
| 12:44.33 | mattfury | i think it worked =D |
| 12:44.49 | mattfury | its all there! :D |
| 12:44.50 | Neverth | still no privatemesgs in this network? |
| 12:44.53 | Neverth | hah |
| 12:45.00 | mattfury | <3 peterS . |
| 12:45.01 | peterS | mattfury: there you go then, have fun |
| 12:45.04 | xaureus | bestmedia:~# mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk/ |
| 12:45.04 | xaureus | mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist |
| 12:45.05 | xaureus | it doesn't work |
| 12:45.19 | abrotman | now if only he would have upgrded ... instead of arguing :) |
| 12:45.24 | Neverth | ls /dev/sdb* |
| 12:45.30 | peterS | mattfury: me, I'm goin' to bed. it's quarter to 8 in the morning, and I'm opting for sleep rather than coffee |
| 12:45.38 | xaureus | bestmedia:~# ls /dev/sdb* |
| 12:45.38 | xaureus | /dev/sdb |
| 12:45.41 | peterS | I've had neither in quite awhile (: |
| 12:45.41 | dorto | there seems to be many...any recommendation of a popular wiki server(PM me)? |
| 12:45.49 | Neverth | ... |
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| 12:46.19 | Kerr | how can i stop traceroute from resolving addresses ? |
| 12:46.24 | mattfury | lol |
| 12:46.26 | peterS | dorto: the reason there are so many is that (a) they are easy to write, and (b) everyone is annoyed by all the existing ones, yet persists in believing it's possible to implement a wiki which is not annoying |
| 12:46.33 | abrotman | peterS: sleep! |
| 12:46.43 | peterS | dorto: I am bemused by all this. but the side effect is that nobody will ever agree on the 'best' wiki |
| 12:47.03 | dorto | yes i agree |
| 12:47.09 | Tank- | tankwiki is the best |
| 12:47.14 | dorto | using anyone should not matter much then |
| 12:47.14 | Tank- | its the only none annoying one :P |
| 12:47.20 | xaureus | Neverth that's all |
| 12:47.20 | xaureus | there's only /dev/sdb |
| 12:47.27 | Kerr | dorto: http://www.uncyclopedia.com = the win of all wiki's ? |
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| 12:47.48 | peterS | dorto: oh, I'm sure some are better than others. it's just impossible to get a consensus on *best*. and I have no wiki experience (I hate the things) so my opinion wouldn't be worth much anyway |
| 12:48.08 | dorto | alrighty |
| 12:48.11 | abrotman | use popcon! |
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| 12:48.30 | peterS | dorto: the biggest wiki in the world is probably wikipedia and it uses 'mediawiki' which is in unstable. but I imagine mediawiki is rather too grand for a single-user sort of setup ... not that I've tried it |
| 12:49.52 | peterS | is there a classical language wiki called 'vici'? |
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| 12:50.05 | peterS | (people who can pronounce Latin will know what I mean) |
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| 12:50.07 | sha1sum | hahaha |
| 12:50.10 | Neverth | propably |
| 12:50.26 | Kerr | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Debian |
| 12:50.31 | sha1sum | vicipedia |
| 12:50.33 | Kerr | har. |
| 12:50.58 | sha1sum | vinividivicipedia.com |
| 12:51.02 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 12:51.59 | peterS | sha1sum: if you're gonna use that old spelling the least you can do is also use ć |
| 12:52.12 | peterS | or æ if you are utf8-enabled |
| 12:52.28 | sha1sum | peterS: I don't feel like breakin' out the character selector |
| 12:52.32 | sha1sum | heh |
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| 12:52.33 | scruffy | heheh uncyclopedia is hilarious. I'd never seen that one before. |
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| 12:52.58 | Fox_1_ | how and with whom processing all network packages in debian? please give a documentation place. |
| 12:53.24 | sha1sum | peterS: I'm sure those whose native language is latin have the characters memorized, though ;) heh |
| 12:53.33 | Fubarovic | can i use /pending from backports.org as a apt source too? |
| 12:53.35 | peterS | Phated: please translate Fox_1_ for us |
| 12:53.46 | Phated | peterS: Beh? |
| 12:54.02 | sha1sum | all that for beh? |
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| 12:54.08 | mattfury | another problem. |
| 12:54.13 | mattfury | need permissions. |
| 12:54.13 | peterS | culturally patronising joke, nothing more |
| 12:54.15 | Phated | peterS: Why do you think I would be ale to translate Fox_1_? |
| 12:54.26 | mattfury | for my username. |
| 12:54.39 | Fox_1_ | :) |
| 12:54.42 | mattfury | (mattfury) |
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| 12:54.49 | mattfury | so how do i ? |
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| 12:55.17 | Phated | peterS: Ah. I see. Sorry, luv, not in the most humourous of moods atm, I'll laugh later. :) |
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| 12:55.31 | peterS | mattfury: oh, do 'umount /mnt' and next time you 'mount' it, use '-o umask=0', I think |
| 12:56.05 | asuffield | 'luv'? are you asian or liverpudlian? :P |
| 12:57.02 | Phated | Both, dahling. |
| 12:57.21 | mattfury | =)) |
| 12:57.26 | asuffield | oh hell, a scary crossbreed |
| 12:57.33 | Phated | Yeh, well. |
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| 12:59.01 | peterS | wow, I never read that bit of mount(8) before |
| 12:59.19 | peterS | the bit talking about using a different hash function in reiserfs if the one generates EHASHCOLLISION errors |
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| 12:59.37 | peterS | scary stuff, that a filesystem would generate errors because your filenames are insufficiently creative |
| 12:59.43 | mattfury | whats a good torrent downloader? =P |
| 12:59.51 | mattfury | azureus is too much hassle. |
| 12:59.56 | mattfury | and im almost asleep. |
| 13:00.00 | peterS | mattfury: bittornado-gui works, it's not *great* but it works |
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| 13:00.12 | mattfury | peterS, apt? |
| 13:00.16 | sha1sum | mv: Error: Filename 'xorg.conf' is not creative enough. Please try again. |
| 13:00.21 | peterS | mattfury: bittornado-gui is the package name, btdownloadgui is the command name |
| 13:00.47 | Guerin | use rtorrent |
| 13:00.53 | Guerin | rtorrent > * |
| 13:00.56 | Guerin | really |
| 13:01.12 | Guerin | unless you're running your torrent client on a quad opteron with 8G of ram |
| 13:01.13 | abrotman | peterS: you should really sleep :) |
| 13:01.22 | peterS | abrotman: oh yeah. since I can't make coffee. |
| 13:01.34 | mattfury | peterS, is legend. |
| 13:01.46 | abrotman | peterS: it's quite sad you need your mommy to make coffee :) |
| 13:01.48 | peterS | mattfury: not when it comes to torrents. Guerin knows much more than I |
| 13:02.03 | peterS | abrotman: I could probably do it if I had any coffee on the premises. I don't though. |
| 13:02.23 | abrotman | a coffee addict out of coffee .. that's bad |
| 13:02.30 | peterS | I'm not a coffee addict |
| 13:02.40 | mattfury | now to download q4 :)) |
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| 13:02.41 | peterS | I only mentioned that beverage because it was the theme of the morning here |
| 13:02.49 | abrotman | ah .. ok .. |
| 13:02.54 | abrotman | peterS: take a nap! |
| 13:03.11 | peterS | not a bad idea |
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| 13:05.14 | zinosat | anyone has an idea how I can get rid of this "(debconf:4465): GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" ? |
| 13:05.24 | Fubarovic | strange "problem" on my debian box: df says i'm using 3GB on /, but when i use du, i'm not even using 1GB :? |
| 13:05.35 | abrotman | zinosat: did you remove the root user ? |
| 13:05.42 | Guerin | Fubarovic: recently deleted a bunch of stuff? |
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| 13:05.46 | tarzeau | why does firefox not have search and replace? |
| 13:05.58 | Anthro | tarzeau: Search and replace for what? |
| 13:05.58 | Guerin | tarzeau: because it's not an editor |
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| 13:06.16 | tarzeau | Guerin: what about wiki and form text fields? |
| 13:06.16 | Guerin | and thank god |
| 13:06.17 | zinosat | abrotman, root:*:0:0:root:/:/bin/sh is in /etc/passwd |
| 13:06.18 | Anthro | tarzeau: In textareas? |
| 13:06.21 | tarzeau | Anthro: for forms, yes |
| 13:06.39 | Neverth | firefox has search "/" |
| 13:06.47 | Guerin | Neverth: does it replace, too? |
| 13:06.52 | Fox_1_ | listen when comes package from interface X, which program processing that package or which programs? |
| 13:06.57 | abrotman | zinosat: sid ? |
| 13:06.57 | zinosat | abrotman, it's a problem which shows up when launching the graphical frontend for the debian-installer |
| 13:06.59 | valdyn | Fubarovic: du will not count deleted files, while df will, till they are no longer used/open |
| 13:07.01 | Anthro | tarzeau: Well, forms in general is a bit difficult, but you can use the mozex extension to edit textareas in an external editor. |
| 13:07.06 | Neverth | no, replace lol |
| 13:07.25 | abrotman | zinosat: the what for thwat ? |
| 13:07.27 | peterS | yes, please replace "lol". with anything. |
| 13:07.27 | zinosat | abrotman, we can live with it but I'd like to get rid of that |
| 13:07.31 | tarzeau | Anthro: i'd rather be able to save the textarea and load it back from a file |
| 13:07.41 | abrotman | zinosat: the GTK version ? |
| 13:07.51 | Guerin | Neverth: replace it with "" |
| 13:07.52 | zinosat | abrotman, yes, it uses directfb |
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| 13:08.00 | Anthro | tarzeau: Well, you can. You just do it through your external editor. I use gvim, myself. |
| 13:08.02 | abrotman | zinosat: ask #debian-boot .. i think .. i'm not sure |
| 13:08.03 | Fubarovic | valdyn, it's a fresh sarge install so 3GB seems rather steep to me |
| 13:08.16 | zinosat | abrotman, I tried already, thanx anyway |
| 13:08.32 | valdyn | Fubarovic: true |
| 13:08.37 | peterS | abrotman: * peterS is away: no coffee no cry |
| 13:08.40 | Neverth | but firefox...replacing text? no? |
| 13:08.47 | Fubarovic | i just installed the base system and a few extra pkg's, no X |
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| 13:08.55 | Anthro | tarzeau: http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=70 |
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| 13:09.03 | sha1sum | damn I hate administering windows termservices |
| 13:09.09 | Anthro | Neverth: http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=70 |
| 13:09.11 | valdyn | Fubarovic: doesnt make sense that even 1 gig is used then, i suppose |
| 13:09.17 | Neverth | sarge and x and few programs fit to 800 meg disk |
| 13:09.22 | Guerin | peterS: do you remember when you used to sit, in the tea yard in kansas? |
| 13:09.26 | tarzeau | Anthro: i opened that page, but i'm too stupid to install it |
| 13:09.32 | valdyn | Fubarovic: try df -h ( maybe you're misreading ) |
| 13:09.33 | Anthro | tarzeau: Heh. Hang on. |
| 13:09.55 | tarzeau | and even gnu.org started to uglyfy their page |
| 13:09.59 | Fox_1_ | how and by who processing all network packages in debian? please give a documentation place. |
| 13:10.03 | Fubarovic | lol, i made a booboo |
| 13:10.09 | abrotman | peterS: hehe |
| 13:10.19 | Guerin | Fox_1_: wtf are you on about? |
| 13:10.36 | Fox_1_ | Guerin wtf? what's that? |
| 13:10.39 | valdyn | Fubarovic: its really only 300mb i guess uh? |
| 13:10.53 | Guerin | !wtf |
| 13:11.01 | Fubarovic | 3.3GB - 2300MB of mp3s |
| 13:11.02 | Fubarovic | :D |
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| 13:11.20 | Guerin | Fox_1_: it means What The Fuck, translation: you;'re not making sense, speak english |
| 13:11.26 | Fubarovic | i ran apt-get install coolmusic |
| 13:11.30 | Fubarovic | forgot about that |
| 13:11.31 | Fox_1_ | aaaaaa |
| 13:11.32 | Fox_1_ | :) |
| 13:12.05 | Anthro | tarzeau: It looks like the latest version finally made it to addons: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=40 |
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| 13:12.26 | Fox_1_ | how and by who are processed all network packages in debian? |
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| 13:12.39 | Miesco | How do I make my X server allow connections? |
| 13:12.50 | valdyn | Fox_1_: try again, this didnt make sense either |
| 13:12.52 | rss | where can I find ascii image of mutt? |
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| 13:12.59 | valdyn | Fox_1_: mind, a package isnt a packet |
| 13:13.11 | Anthro | Miesco: xhost, but you probably don't really want to do that. What are you trying to accomplish? |
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| 13:13.20 | tarzeau | Anthro: cool i said install now, and it says incompatible extension |
| 13:13.27 | Anthro | rss: What do you mean by an ascii image? |
| 13:13.29 | tarzeau | only for firefox 0.7 to 0.9 and i have 1.0.7? |
| 13:13.37 | rss | ascii art |
| 13:13.43 | sha1sum | yum |
| 13:13.54 | Anthro | tarzeau: Grrr. They seem to have screwed it up. Hang on. |
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| 13:14.02 | tarzeau | Anthro: thank you, i wait |
| 13:14.03 | rss | Anthro: ascii art of mutt... for a presentation |
| 13:14.03 | Anthro | rss: You want an ascii art image of a dog? |
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| 13:14.14 | rss | Anthro: mutt logo |
| 13:14.23 | Anthro | rss: Ah! That's clearer. |
| 13:14.29 | Fubarovic | aaah, only 755MB in use |
| 13:14.32 | Fubarovic | that seems right |
| 13:14.37 | rss | Anthro: i remember seeing that |
| 13:14.56 | xaureus | how can i delete this: http://pastebin.com/409914 |
| 13:15.01 | Fubarovic | my /proc uses 257MB according to du. is that normal ? |
| 13:15.08 | xaureus | i've checked the filesystem with fsck and it has no problem |
| 13:15.18 | valdyn | Fubarovic: proc uses no space, no matter what du sais |
| 13:15.20 | Anthro | tarzeau: Try right-click saving it then installing from disk. |
| 13:15.25 | Fubarovic | oh, cool |
| 13:15.29 | Miesco | Anthro: I am trying to start an other X session that I can go to with ctrl+F8 |
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| 13:16.26 | tarzeau | Anthro: same error |
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| 13:16.46 | Anthro | Miesco: What does that have to do with making X accept connections? If you want another X server (and your video driver won't fall all over itself when you try, which I've seen), you just need to start one as display :1. Do you want gdm or kdm or something running on it? |
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| 13:16.54 | kolom | ian |
| 13:17.07 | Anthro | tarzeau: Hrmph. Well, I can point you to my local copy that works, if you'll trust it. |
| 13:17.11 | Miesco | Anthro: I want quake 3 running on it |
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| 13:18.06 | valdyn | xaureus: try using rm -r instead of rm -rf |
| 13:18.25 | xaureus | same output |
| 13:18.52 | abrotman | sha1sum: don't drink the stuff .. really |
| 13:18.53 | tarzeau | Anthro: i do |
| 13:18.59 | Anthro | Miesco: If you want nothing other than Q3 on it, just run X :1 vt8 from the console, set your DISPLAY environment variable to :1, and run Q3. |
| 13:19.05 | abrotman | sha1sum: avoid that aisle at the store .. can't stand the smell |
| 13:19.11 | valdyn | xaureus: broken fs then |
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| 13:19.26 | valdyn | xaureus: read the manpage to your fsck.. |
| 13:19.34 | xaureus | i've checked it with fsck |
| 13:19.39 | sha1sum | abrotman: hehehe... coffeephobia |
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| 13:20.18 | abrotman | sha1sum: no .. just don't like it .. i'm not afraid of it |
| 13:20.27 | Anthro | tarzeau: https://www.anthropohedron.net/~gss/ffext/MozEX_1.0.7_rep.xpi |
| 13:20.56 | sha1sum | coffeepathy then |
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| 13:21.44 | valdyn | xaureus: and you unmounted it before fsck? |
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| 13:22.46 | xaureus | valdyn yes |
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| 13:23.22 | abrotman | sha1sum: mmm .. eggs and whole milk !!! |
| 13:23.34 | sha1sum | abrotman: that's yummy too |
| 13:23.43 | Anthro | eggnog? |
| 13:23.48 | abrotman | hehe |
| 13:24.06 | Anthro | It's all about the nutmeg |
| 13:24.12 | Anthro | tarzeau: Any luck? |
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| 13:24.27 | tarzeau | let me try |
| 13:25.01 | tarzeau | Anthro: stupid gtk, doesn't allow me to copy paste text from window: because: download error |
| 13:25.08 | tarzeau | hahah and uber moron error messages |
| 13:25.12 | tarzeau | feels like window |
| 13:25.13 | tarzeau | s |
| 13:25.18 | abrotman | who wants to go to a hockey game?! |
| 13:25.22 | Anthro | tarzeau: Try downloading with wget or curl. |
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| 13:25.37 | Anthro | abrotman: Gee, well, someday. |
| 13:25.52 | tarzeau | OMG i need to reboot firefox |
| 13:25.55 | tarzeau | lame |
| 13:26.09 | Neverth | bah "this version of links doesn't contain ssl/tls support", is there framebuffer supporing browser that supports it then in debian? |
| 13:26.13 | xaureus | valdyn any other ideeas? |
| 13:26.18 | Miesco | Anthro: Okay so I just want to run quake3 in a new X session |
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| 13:26.26 | tarzeau | Neverth: links2 |
| 13:26.28 | Anthro | Neverth: w3m-ssl |
| 13:26.46 | tarzeau | Neverth: but it doeasn't have ssl/tls either, feel free to write a patch, upstream doesn't want to give the exception sentence that's needed for openssl |
| 13:26.48 | sparr | Removing glob2 ... |
| 13:26.49 | sparr | dpkg - warning: while removing glob2, directory `/usr/local/share' not empty so not removed. |
| 13:26.49 | sparr | ^^ this seems like something might be wrong? |
| 13:26.50 | tarzeau | Neverth: build it yourself |
| 13:26.57 | Anthro | Neverth: Actually, I think it's just w3m. |
| 13:27.11 | Neverth | does w3m support fb? |
| 13:27.18 | Neverth | i don't think so |
| 13:27.21 | tarzeau | Neverth: graphically or just text? |
| 13:27.28 | Neverth | graph |
| 13:27.33 | Anthro | Neverth: fb? What do you mean? if you install w3m-img it will display images. |
| 13:27.33 | valdyn | xaureus: i'd think dosfsck would find & and fix this error, but you can try microsofts chkdisk or whatever they provide w/ winxp |
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| 13:27.59 | sha1sum | scandicks |
| 13:27.59 | Neverth | fb=framebuffer |
| 13:28.00 | sha1sum | heh |
| 13:28.22 | tarzeau | Anthro: and how can i use that extension now? |
| 13:28.30 | tarzeau | Neverth: only links2 can do that, afaik |
| 13:29.10 | valdyn | sparr: nothing wrong there |
| 13:29.14 | Neverth | bah, that means work... |
| 13:29.33 | tarzeau | Neverth: but it's not linked against openssl for #258301 see also http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/links2/ |
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| 13:29.42 | sparr | valdyn: ive never had a package TRY to remove that dir before |
| 13:30.07 | tarzeau | Neverth: no it doesn't mean work, apt-get source links2 openssl dev library, and debuild it, maybe make sure configure doesn't have disable-ssl in debian/rules |
| 13:30.08 | tarzeau | Neverth: that's all. or bug upstream |
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| 13:30.21 | Miesco | How do I create a second X server? |
| 13:30.22 | tarzeau | Neverth: the more people bug upstream, or someone writes a patch to link against gnu tls, the sooner it'll be resolved |
| 13:30.24 | liran_ | can i create a dummy ethernet interface? |
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| 13:30.29 | Anthro | tarzeau: I assume you've succeeded in installing it? Go to the extensions tool, choose mozex, and click Options. You'll get a window with lots of stuff to fill out. See http://mozex.mozdev.org/arguments.html for an explanation of how to fill it out. You probably only need to fill out the textarea part. |
| 13:30.33 | tarzeau | Miesco: startx -- :1 |
| 13:30.36 | liran_ | like, ifconfig dummy 192.168.2.1 up |
| 13:30.45 | gwr021 | Why are some packages held back with apt-get? |
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| 13:30.54 | valdyn | !held back |
| 13:30.54 | dpkg | rumour has it, kept back is when packages have not been upgraded, even though newer versions are available, because it cannot resolve dependencies for the newer version, or when you told it to hold packages, or when you used "upgrade" instead of "dist-upgrade", or the safest way to resolve this is perhaps to 'apt-get -s install <kept-package>' and see why it wasn't automatically upgrading the package |
| 13:31.01 | tarzeau | Anthro: i restarted it, and it still wants to be restarted? DAMN |
| 13:31.07 | tarzeau | do i need to reboot the COMPUTER? |
| 13:31.25 | tarzeau | oh had a window open of it |
| 13:31.35 | Anthro | tarzeau: Once you have it configured correctly you can right-click on textareas and edit them from the mozex submenu. |
| 13:31.46 | tarzeau | Anthro: ok i have it now |
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| 13:31.48 | Anthro | tarzeau: Make sure you have completely exited firefox. |
| 13:31.52 | Anthro | tarzeau: Ah, good. |
| 13:32.05 | Miesco | Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! |
| 13:32.11 | Miesco | It does not work |
| 13:32.49 | tarzeau | Anthro: WHOA thanks :) |
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| 13:32.56 | tarzeau | i can have TELNET: :) |
| 13:32.58 | tarzeau | AND IRC: :) |
| 13:33.03 | Dewi | is there a way to get apt to show me what it *would* do to resolve dependancies to install a package without actually changing the status of any packages? |
| 13:33.05 | tarzeau | this should be in by default |
| 13:33.12 | tarzeau | but still the browser sucks since it crashes so often |
| 13:33.25 | stdoubt | Dewi: use the -s option |
| 13:33.29 | stdoubt | --simulate |
| 13:33.34 | Anthro | tarzeau: Yep. It's cool enough that it's worth the rigamarole it takes to install it. And I've never had FF crash under Linux. A few times on Windows, never Linux. |
| 13:33.34 | valdyn | Dewi: apt-get -s install <package> |
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| 13:33.38 | stdoubt | apt-get -s install foo |
| 13:33.48 | tarzeau | Anthro: how can i make it open the area in mcedit ? |
| 13:33.49 | Dewi | thanks guys |
| 13:33.58 | Dewi | aww I love apt |
| 13:34.10 | stdoubt | me 3 |
| 13:34.11 | Anthro | tarzeau: /usr/bin/mcedit %t as the textarea command. |
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| 13:34.23 | Neverth | Anthro, hehe, mine crashed about every third day to memory overdrive |
| 13:34.44 | Ad4m | pls... "configure: error: Could not compile and run even a trivial ANSI C program - check CC." |
| 13:34.49 | tarzeau | Anthro: mcedit is not an x program |
| 13:34.55 | Anthro | Neverth: Sounds like you need more memory. |
| 13:35.07 | Neverth | wrong |
| 13:35.10 | valdyn | !b-e Ad4m |
| 13:35.13 | dpkg | Ad4m: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 13:35.14 | tarzeau | Anthro: i tried xterm -e "/usr/bin/mcedit %t" |
| 13:35.21 | tarzeau | Anthro: but the window just flashes shortly and goes away |
| 13:35.30 | Anthro | tarzeau: Ah. In that case, /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -e /usr/bin/mcedit %t |
| 13:35.34 | Anthro | tarzeau: No quotes. |
| 13:35.41 | tarzeau | ah thanks |
| 13:35.42 | Neverth | even at clean boot it givers memory overdrives, and couple other progs too |
| 13:35.43 | gilbert_ | wer i can get conexant license key |
| 13:35.51 | Neverth | theres enough mem |
| 13:35.54 | Anthro | tarzeau: xterm treats everything after -e as arguments to execl. |
| 13:35.56 | tarzeau | OMG IT WORKS |
| 13:36.06 | Anthro | tarzeau: Gee, you seem surprised :-) |
| 13:36.29 | tarzeau | Anthro: i just edited a very large form with search/replace :) |
| 13:36.31 | tarzeau | Anthro: THANKS :) |
| 13:36.41 | Anthro | tarzeau: Just one thing. You need to make sure you click in the textarea so it refreshes from the file. |
| 13:37.03 | tarzeau | Anthro: ok thank you, it worked :) |
| 13:37.22 | Anthro | tarzeau: Excellent. And yeah, it really should be builtin functionality. |
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| 13:39.52 | Fox_1_ | how and by who are processed all network packet in debian? |
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| 13:40.43 | lindi- | Fox_1_: by the kernel you chose? |
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| 13:41.39 | stdoubt | Fox_1_: try http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/netbase |
| 13:41.40 | valdyn | Fox_1_: by the kernels network stack |
| 13:42.04 | Anthro | tarzeau: If it's something you care about, go to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13474 and vote for the bug (you'll need a bugzilla login if you don't already have one). |
| 13:42.09 | Fox_1_ | i want to write traffic counter for all network packet. |
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| 13:42.15 | dagg | hello |
| 13:42.23 | Dewi | you can vote for bugs? hmm |
| 13:42.25 | valdyn | Fox_1_: try ethereal |
| 13:42.28 | Dewi | I should get an account :P |
| 13:42.28 | dagg | how can I retrive my boot logfs? |
| 13:42.35 | dagg | logs even |
| 13:43.09 | valdyn | Fox_1_: ifconfig -a also will list total traffic for each and every interface |
| 13:43.35 | takatumi | dagg: /msg dpkg bootlog |
| 13:43.52 | Anthro | Dewi: Yes. Most people who use OSS don't contribute much. Not everyone is capable of contributing code. There are other things, though, like reporting and identifying important features/bugs, that non-coders can help with. |
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| 13:44.36 | Fox_1_ | valdyn i want to count for each ip |
| 13:44.37 | cluster | which player knows how to play aiff files? |
| 13:45.03 | rohal | where should i add export proxy so that apt can use them??? |
| 13:45.05 | Anthro | cluster: Essentially all of them. Are you looking for a simple commandline solution or a GUI? |
| 13:45.11 | Dewi | Anthro: yeah. I mainly contribute by spreading nasty rumours about RMS. |
| 13:45.11 | Fox_1_ | valdyn i want write somthing like sams, mrtg, lan billing ... |
| 13:45.18 | Dewi | Anthro: like did you know he eats bears? |
| 13:45.28 | Anthro | Dewi: Heh. That's of... arguable... value. |
| 13:45.33 | valdyn | Fox_1_: uh, if you want to write software doing that, this is the wrong channel.. |
| 13:45.43 | Fox_1_ | valdyn is ethereal software? |
| 13:45.57 | cluster | anthro: i tried xmms and it would not play. do i need some plugin? |
| 13:46.02 | valdyn | Fox_1_: sure |
| 13:46.16 | cluster | Anthro: dont quite care about the player |
| 13:46.31 | dagg | thanks |
| 13:46.34 | Fox_1_ | valdyn i need to understand how debian proccess network packet |
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| 13:46.54 | dagg | one more, can I normal user write files to /usr/share floder? |
| 13:46.55 | Dewi | Fox_1_: so you're asking on irc |
| 13:47.08 | Dewi | Fox_1_: you might need to read the code |
| 13:47.11 | valdyn | Fox_1_: its not 'debian', its the kernel doing that |
| 13:47.14 | stdoubt | Fox_1_: debian doesn't process packets Linux does |
| 13:47.20 | Anthro | cluster: xmms will, indeed, play. You may be using the wrong output plugin, however. |
| 13:47.22 | stdoubt | jinks! |
| 13:47.29 | valdyn | Fox_1_: to really understand that you need to buy a book, or read the kernel code |
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| 13:47.30 | gilbert_ | why my xmms is broken and my helix player doesnt work |
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| 13:47.49 | Anthro | gilbert_: Too little information, please ask your question again. |
| 13:47.58 | cluster | thanx. will look into it |
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| 13:48.35 | valdyn | Fox_1_: www.lartc.org is probably a better place to start doing this than what you're actually asking for.. |
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| 13:48.55 | gilbert_ | maybe? can u help me how can i correct that |
| 13:48.55 | havoc|the|chaos | !dpkg xorg |
| 13:48.56 | dpkg | i guess xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R6.8.2. ask me about <get xorg> |
| 13:49.00 | gilbert_ | xmmms |
| 13:49.05 | gilbert_ | maybe? can u help me how can i correct that |
| 13:49.08 | havoc|the|chaos | !dpkg get xorg |
| 13:49.09 | gilbert_ | xmmms |
| 13:49.09 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 13:49.21 | Fox_1_ | i have the book "Linux kernel in comments" |
| 13:49.26 | havoc|the|chaos | !dpkg xorg sarge |
| 13:49.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xorg sarge is [1] add these to sources.list without quotes: "deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main" "deb-src http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main" [2] run the following command: apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg [3] restart X |
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| 13:50.00 | Anthro | gilbert_: What is your native language? |
| 13:50.06 | dagg | can a normal user write files to /usr/share floder? |
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| 13:50.20 | boguh | hi, how can i print a man-page? |
| 13:50.21 | Anthro | dagg: No. |
| 13:50.25 | dagg | ok thnks |
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| 13:51.20 | Victor_ | re |
| 13:51.27 | gilbert_ | file>print |
| 13:51.27 | gilbert_ | manila |
| 13:51.27 | gilbert_ | tagalog> |
| 13:51.27 | gilbert_ | anthro |
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| 13:51.47 | Anthro | boguh: Oy |
| 13:51.55 | DarnOldDuck | Merturk_NB: Like what? |
| 13:51.58 | Anthro | boguh: Oops, that wasn't meant for you |
| 13:52.55 | Victor_ | do you know, why KDE 3.4 is still hanging in Unstable? |
| 13:54.38 | Anthro | boguh: To print, for example, the manpage for tail(1) you'd do: zcat /usr/share/man/man1/tail.1.gz | groff -man -T ps - | lpr |
| 13:54.45 | _rene_ | yes, it's currently held up by some other transitions |
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| 13:54.50 | _rene_ | like imagemagick |
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| 13:54.59 | _rene_ | and some packages depend on a newer gcc-4.0 |
| 13:55.00 | _rene_ | and ... |
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| 13:55.10 | eps | grr gnome 2.12 :| silly lack of it |
| 13:55.55 | _rene_ | ... is going into experimental first. uploading it now to unstable would break other transitions... |
| 13:56.16 | Victor_ | *sigh* |
| 13:56.36 | _rene_ | Victor_: but the RMs are working on it |
| 13:56.38 | HPS`Fresh | by the way... what is the default dm in debian? |
| 13:57.04 | _rene_ | HPS`Fresh: what you install and choose. if you choose "desktop" you get gdm, though |
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| 13:57.11 | _rene_ | (and gnome) |
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| 13:57.27 | marthijn | hi guys, can anyone tell me how to dpkg reconfigure xorg? |
| 13:57.34 | marthijn | I forgot the command... |
| 13:57.38 | HPS`Fresh | _rene_ well. it`s the whole answer :) |
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| 13:57.52 | stdoubt | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 13:58.03 | stdoubt | doh |
| 13:58.11 | stdoubt | make that xserver-xfree86 |
| 13:58.31 | _rene_ | no |
| 13:58.39 | _rene_ | he meant xorg so -xorg is right |
| 13:58.53 | stdoubt | ok |
| 13:58.53 | _rene_ | if he didn't mean xorg he said it wrong :-P |
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| 13:59.28 | hawking | can xmms play wmv files? |
| 13:59.33 | marthijn | stdoubt: thax |
| 13:59.35 | marthijn | thanks |
| 13:59.37 | Victor_ | _rene_: I had a look on the BPS-Wiki and the several packages in testing and unstable and I've got the silly impression, that both KDE 3.3 and KDE 3.4 are in transit |
| 13:59.46 | Victor_ | BSP-Wiki of course |
| 13:59.49 | _rene_ | no, 3.3 is gone |
| 14:00.03 | _rene_ | that and the C++ ABI transition are the main problems |
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| 14:00.08 | _rene_ | and then imagemagick and gcc-4.0 |
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| 14:00.51 | HPS`Fresh | and i forgot wich pkg can spy what "make install" do, and can create deb packeges. and by the way, were can a iet some info about "creating-deb-packeges-HOWTO" |
| 14:01.04 | gilbert_ | hi |
| 14:01.07 | _rene_ | checkinstall |
| 14:01.15 | _rene_ | and you mean "proper debs"? |
| 14:01.17 | Victor_ | _rene_, ok, thanks for all the answers |
| 14:01.19 | _rene_ | debian new maintainers guide |
| 14:01.38 | gilbert_ | xmms problem i can but broken packages |
| 14:01.50 | gilbert_ | xmms problem i can play but broken packages |
| 14:02.05 | _rene_ | i not understand you because missing verb and no sense |
| 14:02.14 | _rene_ | ;-) |
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| 14:03.46 | gilbert_ | xmms problem ubuntu? |
| 14:04.28 | azeem | gilbert_: #ubuntu |
| 14:05.26 | gilbert_ | anybody her from manila |
| 14:05.26 | gilbert_ | #ubuntu |
| 14:06.46 | gilbert_ | i download softdem but it works to slow! wer can i get free licensekey of softdem |
| 14:07.01 | sha1sum | heh |
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| 14:08.13 | Maulkin | gilbert_: "/j #ubuntu" |
| 14:08.17 | TNKS_ | hi all. I forgot something really basic. Is the lowest partition a swap can be in hda5? (not hda1, 2, 3, or 4)? |
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| 14:08.34 | TNKS_ | I thought this might have to do with logical and primary partitions. |
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| 14:08.44 | Victor_ | TNKS_, I think you can make any partition a swap partition |
| 14:09.09 | gilbert_ | #ubuntu |
| 14:09.19 | Maulkin | gilbert_: "/j #ubuntu" |
| 14:09.23 | das | Is possibile to install Gnome 2.12 on Debian? |
| 14:09.26 | dli | TNKS_, I think all linux partition can be any |
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| 14:09.42 | rohal | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 14:09.42 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.42 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.42 | rohal | what should i do for this?? |
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| 14:09.50 | TNKS_ | okay, so I can made hda1 my primary, and hda2 my logical? |
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| 14:10.24 | Victor_ | TNKS_, maybe you should describe your problem |
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| 14:10.47 | rohal | The following packages have unmet dependencies enlightenment: Depends: libecore0 but it is not going to be installed what should i do for this??? |
| 14:10.49 | dli | TNKS_, linux doesn't care primary of logical :( no, you can not make hda2 logical |
| 14:10.54 | Maulkin | TNKS_: Erm... You can have up to 4 primary partitions. One of these can be split into logical partitions |
| 14:11.15 | SimonRaven | rohal: don't paste here. use paster (/whois paster). that's unofficial AFAIK. deal or use something other than apt-get to manage that |
| 14:11.51 | rohal | SimonRaven: what else i can use for installing e 17??? |
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| 14:12.35 | SimonRaven | oh you mean like synpatic, aptitude, dselect, and a few others? |
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| 14:13.11 | TNKS_ | Maulkin, that's what I thought. |
| 14:13.15 | SimonRaven | synaptic* |
| 14:13.28 | TNKS_ | Okay, so for those interested, I'm using mondo to restore a system. |
| 14:13.31 | SimonRaven | banxoo: ... |
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| 14:13.37 | TNKS_ | but I decided not to put in Windows. |
| 14:13.56 | TNKS_ | so what was once hda1 is now free (Linux was in hda3). |
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| 14:14.05 | TNKS_ | so I'm thinking of moving Linux to hda1. |
| 14:14.26 | TNKS_ | but I was wondering if the swap could be placed any lower. |
| 14:14.32 | TNKS_ | but I guess it can't. |
| 14:14.32 | rohal | how should i install enlightenment 17 on ubuntu??? |
| 14:14.37 | banxoo | I'm having problems wiz debian while trying to enable graphix acceleration, anyone can help? |
| 14:14.43 | rohal | or debian |
| 14:14.43 | Maulkin | rohal: See #ubuntu |
| 14:14.46 | SimonRaven | rohal: #ubuntu |
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| 14:15.03 | rohal | how should i install enlightenment 17 on debian...........:)??? |
| 14:15.07 | SimonRaven | rohal: #ubuntu |
| 14:15.13 | TNKS_ | I am I probably best putting Linux on hda1 and my swap at hda5? |
| 14:15.39 | rohal | SimonRaven: man i seriously have debian not ubuntu....do i need to give a proof.....:) |
| 14:15.49 | Maulkin | rohal: yes |
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| 14:15.53 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 14:15.53 | Maulkin | :) |
| 14:16.06 | rohal | ok tell me then how should i prove it? |
| 14:16.09 | Victor_ | TNKS_, if you can use the whole disk for your linux, you should maybe let the installer decide that for you |
| 14:16.18 | SimonRaven | !version |
| 14:16.19 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:16.26 | rohal | i installed debian using debootstrap....a few days back |
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| 14:16.41 | SimonRaven | Debian: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 14:17.13 | SimonRaven | e.g., /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version in your IRC client |
| 14:17.28 | TNKS_ | Victor_ normally I would, but Mondo is a bit more primitive than the Debian installer. |
| 14:17.39 | banxoo | anyone? |
| 14:17.43 | TNKS_ | Really nice, but I'm not sure it has all the checks. |
| 14:17.51 | rohal | SimonRaven: it just says this testing/unstable |
| 14:17.59 | SimonRaven | banxoo: ask the question first. please don't ask meta-questions |
| 14:18.20 | Victor_ | TNKS_: I would recommend hda1 für /boot, hda2 for swap und hda3 for the /; especially if you don't know yet how to handle Linux, but I do not give any guarantee |
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| 14:18.23 | Inchabod | Hey. |
| 14:18.38 | rohal | ok now plz tell me how should i install enlightenment 17 on debian???? |
| 14:18.41 | Inchabod | Whilst compiling Oddcastv3 Jack. |
| 14:18.45 | Inchabod | Do I need all of the support? |
| 14:18.48 | Inchabod | -------------------------------------------- |
| 14:18.48 | Inchabod | Vorbis support: YES |
| 14:18.48 | Inchabod | LAME support: NO |
| 14:18.48 | Inchabod | AAC support: NO |
| 14:18.48 | Inchabod | -------------------------------------------- |
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| 14:18.53 | tarzeau | Anthro: heh thanks for the info |
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| 14:19.07 | Inchabod | ? |
| 14:19.16 | Maulkin | rohal: apt-get install enlightenment |
| 14:19.16 | banxoo | I'm having problem when trying to install the gfx driver on debian |
| 14:19.21 | SimonRaven | @tell Inchabod -about paste |
| 14:19.30 | Inchabod | Sorry |
| 14:19.33 | Inchabod | I won't do it again. |
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| 14:20.08 | rohal | Maulkin: it says this http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
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| 14:20.19 | marthijn | hi, when configuring xorg, I've set Display Depth 16 to Modes "1024x768" - for some reason X still starts with 800x600, any idea what could be wrong? |
| 14:20.49 | marthijn | VideoRam is 32768 |
| 14:20.53 | Maulkin | rohal: A blank form? :) |
| 14:20.57 | TNKS_ | Victor_, that sounds like good advice. I forget. . . what exactly is the motivation for putting /boot in it's own partition? |
| 14:21.07 | TNKS_ | And also, why put the swap ahead of root? |
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| 14:21.32 | tarzeau | TNKS_: why not? |
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| 14:21.50 | zapusz | hello |
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| 14:22.04 | TNKS_ | tarzeau, I hear you, just wondering if it was an issue of swap access speed. |
| 14:22.10 | zapusz | i've one qustion |
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| 14:22.28 | tarzeau | TNKS_: swap is 10 times slower than memory |
| 14:22.29 | zapusz | i prefere polish language |
| 14:22.34 | Victor_ | TNKS_, /boot as first partition because there were BIOses and Bootmanagers, that had problems with boot-partitions outside of the first 1024 cylinders, and swap as second one, don't know, maybe a speed issue |
| 14:22.44 | Maulkin | TNKS_: Theoretically, you shoudn't ever use swap :) |
| 14:22.49 | Lanix | buenos-dias! good-morning |
| 14:23.07 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.09 | Tortel | I use swap and ram |
| 14:23.14 | TNKS_ | Maulkin, I use it for Suspend2, pretty much (so I need a huge hunk of it),. |
| 14:23.22 | banxoo | Could any one help me resolving the following message: (II) LoadModule: "fglrx" |
| 14:23.22 | banxoo | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o |
| 14:23.22 | banxoo | Duplicate symbol rol_long in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o |
| 14:23.23 | banxoo | Also defined in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a |
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| 14:23.39 | Maulkin | zapusz: polska -> #debian.pl |
| 14:24.16 | Maulkin | rohal: Are you using unstable? |
| 14:24.27 | rohal | Maulkin:yea its e 17 |
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| 14:24.36 | Maulkin | rohal: Have a look at the error text :) |
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| 14:25.01 | Maulkin | try apt-get install libe |
| 14:25.13 | Maulkin | if that doesn#'t work, just wait until tomorrow |
| 14:25.17 | Maulkin | try an apt-get update too |
| 14:25.24 | rohal | Maulkin:it says broken package & unmet dependencies.....but i dont care i want it on my system any how....:) |
| 14:25.37 | Guerin | rohal: wait |
| 14:25.47 | Maulkin | rohal: Wait a couple of days |
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| 14:26.05 | Guerin | rohal: if you can't wait, read man apt-get, man apt-preferences and man dpkg until you grok how to make things happen |
| 14:26.15 | banxoo | hello, did anyone read my message? plz |
| 14:26.23 | Guerin | rohal: warning: the above may take longer than it takes you to just wait |
| 14:26.26 | CerridwenWolve | I was wondering if anyone has messed with a c# or dot net compiler in debian |
| 14:26.51 | rohal | Guerin: if i can get a good guide on this...then ill surely be able to do it..... |
| 14:26.55 | blaamann | CerridwenWolve: mono ? |
| 14:27.06 | Guerin | rohal: i enumerated the Good Guide above |
| 14:27.12 | rohal | Guerin:i am new to debian...so cant do it without help |
| 14:27.12 | Guerin | rohal: enjoy |
| 14:27.13 | CerridwenWolve | i was trying to get pnet |
| 14:27.16 | CerridwenWolve | to work |
| 14:27.27 | CerridwenWolve | but i can see if i can dl mono |
| 14:27.27 | Guerin | rohal: if you're new to debian, you shouldn't do it at all |
| 14:27.30 | Maulkin | rohal: I'd strongly suggest not using unstable |
| 14:27.30 | rohal | Guerin:ok thanks |
| 14:27.34 | CerridwenWolve | i njust don' |
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| 14:27.38 | CerridwenWolve | grrr |
| 14:27.42 | yacoob | Greetings. |
| 14:27.48 | CerridwenWolve | i just don't know how to tell it to compile |
| 14:28.10 | yacoob | does make-kpkg have any quirks with 2.6.14? |
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| 14:28.43 | Lounis_ | CerridwenWolve, mcs is is compiler of the mono project |
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| 14:29.13 | rohal | Guerin: ill reinstall debain if it breaks my system.......i have a second disto to support in the mean time......but today i am out of my mind....so will do it no matter wht happens..... |
| 14:29.20 | dagg | exir |
| 14:29.29 | CerridwenWolve | so would you do mcs helloworld.cs -0 helloworld.exe ? |
| 14:30.28 | rohal | Guerin: atleast ill learn debian...in the process...... |
| 14:30.47 | Maulkin | rohal: I'd suggest using stable |
| 14:30.59 | yacoob | Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14 on running kernel 2.6.12.1 in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs |
| 14:31.06 | yacoob | ...why are those unsuitable??? |
| 14:31.08 | huh | I would suggest stable also |
| 14:31.18 | Lounis_ | mcs -o -target:exe -out:helloworld.exe helloworld.cs |
| 14:31.24 | CerridwenWolve | hmm i just trying to get mono and it says it doesn't exist |
| 14:31.46 | Lounis_ | do you use sid CerridwenWolve |
| 14:32.05 | Lounis_ | or testing |
| 14:32.06 | rohal | Maulkin: ok |
| 14:32.27 | CerridwenWolve | um i dunno what is sid? |
| 14:32.49 | Lounis_ | do you use stable version of debian? |
| 14:32.56 | Maulkin | rohal: if (you want a broken system) -> use unstable; else if (you don't mind if your system is broken) -> use testing; else -> use stable; |
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| 14:33.22 | _rene_ | CerridwenWolve: which version do you use? 3.1 == sarge == stable doesn't have mono yet |
| 14:33.40 | _rene_ | and never will have. etch (the next version) will most probably |
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| 14:33.48 | rohal | Maulkin: & the one i was using is unstable i suppose...... |
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| 14:34.11 | CerridwenWolve | sarge |
| 14:34.14 | Maulkin | rohal: yes |
| 14:34.30 | _rene_ | CerridwenWolve: as said, no mono there yet. wasn't really stable at that time |
| 14:34.36 | Lounis_ | mono is not present in debian stable (sarge) |
| 14:34.54 | CerridwenWolve | so im stuck with microsoft products |
| 14:35.04 | CerridwenWolve | ? |
| 14:35.04 | banxoo | having trouble to install mobility radeon 9700, can anyone help? |
| 14:35.08 | Lounis_ | you must get the source and compile it or use testing or unstable |
| 14:35.10 | CerridwenWolve | or is there a way around this |
| 14:35.21 | CerridwenWolve | lol ok |
| 14:35.38 | ercin | i have some trouble with yaird and vesafb-tng |
| 14:35.53 | CerridwenWolve | so just go to the mono website to get the source |
| 14:35.59 | ercin | yaird says that the video mode for vesafb-tng is wrong |
| 14:36.10 | ercin | and refuses to generated the initrd image |
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| 14:36.28 | Lounis_ | CerridwenWolve, I made one of the .net application on Debian : graphmonkey , it's a graphing calculator |
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| 14:36.49 | CerridwenWolve | o cool |
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| 14:37.56 | CerridwenWolve | I just wanted to see what i could get into with c# .... I do mostly web, c , C++, and java programming |
| 14:37.58 | Lounis_ | perhaps, you can have a look to it graphmonkey.sf.net |
| 14:38.22 | Lounis_ | it's easy to start |
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| 14:39.21 | CerridwenWolve | it looks really cool |
| 14:39.25 | banxoo | having trouble to install mobility radeon 9700, can anyone help? |
| 14:40.01 | Anthro | Anyone know why 2.6.13 hasn't hit unstable yet? I know it's been in experimental for a while. |
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| 14:40.21 | Lounis_ | CerridwenWolve, I did another c# application gmailsender.sf.net but not yet on debian |
| 14:40.38 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: After using C#, you will not want to go back to Java. |
| 14:40.50 | CerridwenWolve | prolly not |
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| 14:41.52 | CerridwenWolve | eventually I want to make my own graphical front end to go to an irc backend chatroom |
| 14:42.15 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: C# (and the CLR) fixes most of the annoyances with Java. And the new version (publicly available a week from Monday, already available to MSDN subscribers) makes C# a proper superset of Java. |
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| 14:43.10 | CerridwenWolve | lol |
| 14:43.22 | harleyg | i like cheesey poofs, you like cheesey poofs, if you didnt like them youd be.... LAME |
| 14:43.29 | CerridwenWolve | I got to get my hands on some .net experience to be honest |
| 14:43.37 | Lounis_ | CerridwenWolve, Gnosmirc is a c# irc client |
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| 14:43.59 | Maulkin | Personally, I hate .net, but it does pay well :) |
| 14:44.05 | CerridwenWolve | is it like x-chat or is it for the web |
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| 14:44.25 | azeem | CerridwenWolve: "for the web"? |
| 14:44.26 | Lounis_ | like x-chat |
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| 14:44.50 | azeem | hey abrotman |
| 14:44.59 | abrotman | azeem: hey .. i tried the .jack3rc .. no go |
| 14:45.00 | roadfish | what command-line program do I use to burn CDs? |
| 14:45.06 | azeem | abrotman: :( |
| 14:45.07 | abrotman | cdrecord |
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| 14:45.20 | CerridwenWolve | i think i would have to graphical frontend as an applet because i want to make it to put on my website if and ever i get the time to develop it |
| 14:45.26 | abrotman | azeem: unusable_chars:[' ', '--replacement-chars','_'] |
| 14:45.26 | salahuddin | hello |
| 14:45.29 | abrotman | correct ? |
| 14:45.41 | Lounis_ | CerridwenWolve, ok |
| 14:45.47 | salahuddin | i need help to enable indic language in firefox in sid |
| 14:45.56 | banXoo | Can anyone help me installing drivers for mobility 9700 radeon? |
| 14:46.02 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Honestly, MS has finally come out with a development platform (i.e. set of APIs and languages, not IDE) that is a pleasure to program. For most applications (specifically excepting number crunching and other performance-critical applications), it's my first choice. I wish it weren't tied to MS platforms, but until Mono can cover more of the API, it is. |
| 14:46.03 | abrotman | azeem: i also found out that unless --save is at the front .. it won't save your settings |
| 14:46.04 | azeem | abrotman: I think (but I never did in v3.0) those are two destinct options |
| 14:46.14 | abrotman | azeem: that's what it saved for me |
| 14:46.15 | banXoo | Having trouble wiz fglrx drivers |
| 14:46.22 | abrotman | wiz ? |
| 14:46.27 | fpiat | banXoo, what kind of trouble ? |
| 14:46.30 | azeem | abrotman: ah, so maybe the option parsing is messed up |
| 14:46.37 | abrotman | azeem: dunno ... |
| 14:46.41 | CerridwenWolve | yeah I will have to get it from college |
| 14:46.46 | abrotman | azeem: my python-fu is not strong enough :) |
| 14:46.49 | banXoo | fpiat: fglrx driver wont install correctly |
| 14:46.51 | CerridwenWolve | i don't have the money to pay for software |
| 14:46.52 | CerridwenWolve | lol |
| 14:46.56 | HPS`Fresh | !ŇŐÄÚ |
| 14:46.59 | HPS`Fresh | !help |
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| 14:47.11 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Actually, a friend of mine and I are working on an AJAX IRC client. It's in three parts. An AJAX/DHTML frontend, a PHP middle, and a C backend. |
| 14:47.13 | CerridwenWolve | that is why i love linux and learning about linux .... its mostly free |
| 14:47.16 | azeem | abrotman: actually, I have this (commented out) in my ~/.jack3rc |
| 14:47.16 | azeem | #unusable_chars:["ä", "ö", "ü", "Ä", "Ö", "Ü", "ß", "é", "è", "ê", "à ", "â","º", ":", "?", "*", "^", "[", "]", "{", "}"] |
| 14:47.20 | azeem | #replacement_chars:["ae", "oe", "ue", "Ae", "Oe", "Ue", "ss", "e", "e", "e", "a", "a", "o", "", ""] |
| 14:47.29 | abrotman | hrm ... |
| 14:47.31 | CerridwenWolve | cool Anthro |
| 14:47.33 | banXoo | Duplicate symbol rol_long in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o |
| 14:47.33 | banXoo | Also defined in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a |
| 14:47.43 | banXoo | what does that mean |
| 14:47.44 | Maulkin | HPS`Fresh: Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian. |
| 14:47.46 | abrotman | azeem: because it doesn't work .. or because you don't mind those chars ? |
| 14:47.58 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: It is far from complete, however. And it's stalled until my job becomes less hectic. |
| 14:48.00 | azeem | abrotman: because I don't mind right now I think |
| 14:48.04 | abrotman | hrm ... |
| 14:48.04 | fpiat | banXoo, where did you get that driver ? |
| 14:48.11 | HPS`Fresh | Maulkin :) |
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| 14:48.15 | azeem | I'd just try |
| 14:48.20 | thingfish | that should be pozhalujsta, not pogalujsta. |
| 14:48.20 | HPS`Fresh | Maulkin ÓĐÁĚÉĚ :) |
| 14:48.22 | azeem | unusable_chars:[" "] |
| 14:48.26 | salahuddin | hello, i wanna enable pango in firefox in sid (i have recompile firefox with --enable-pango --enable-ctl --enable-xft) |
| 14:48.27 | azeem | replacement_chars:["_"] |
| 14:48.32 | abrotman | on two different lines? |
| 14:48.35 | azeem | yeah |
| 14:48.38 | banXoo | from Duplicate symbol rol_long in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o |
| 14:48.39 | banXoo | Also defined in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a |
| 14:48.39 | roadfish | abrotman: tnx |
| 14:48.47 | banXoo | sorry, from http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 14:48.55 | HPS`Fresh | Á ŢĹ. .ÔŐÔ ÍÎĎÇĎ ÉÚ ŇĎÓÓÉÉ? |
| 14:48.59 | CerridwenWolve | Anthro, I know what you mean... This semester is a beast. Getting my butt whooped by projects. I'm counting down until Dec. 17 |
| 14:49.08 | Maulkin | thingfish: Fair enough, I just copied and pasted from dpkg :) |
| 14:49.29 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Hey, at least you get a winter break. I get... the Monday after Christmas off. And the Monday after New Year's. |
| 14:49.29 | Maulkin | HPS`Fresh: #debian-russian |
| 14:49.41 | Maulkin | HPS`Fresh: /join #debian-russian |
| 14:49.49 | HPS`Fresh | Maulkin Ń ŐÖĹ ÔÁÍ ÂĚÉÎ ÄÁ×ÎĎ |
| 14:50.01 | thingfish | Maulkin: yeah actually I thought it was dpkg that said it. |
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| 14:50.08 | Maulkin | thingfish: :) |
| 14:50.12 | thingfish | hehe |
| 14:50.13 | fpiat | banXoo, did you try disablin int10 (read http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/08/msg00511.html ) |
| 14:50.20 | CerridwenWolve | Anthro, hey atleast you could celebrate with a lil alchy |
| 14:50.44 | CerridwenWolve | Anthro, my mom has to work on Christmas and NewYears |
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| 14:51.04 | bluszcz | anyone got idea?: Oct 29 16:49:17 serwer postfix/smtpd[7893]: warning: restriction `permit_sasl_authenticated' ignored: no SASL support |
| 14:51.07 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Bah, like you can't get your hands on alcohol. I think I was six weeks into my first semester of college before my first crawl-home drunk. |
| 14:51.08 | CerridwenWolve | all i have to say is .... Walmart is evil and needs to be stopped |
| 14:51.19 | nashirak | I have run into a problem while trying to do an apt-get upgrade.... I get a message saying that "the installation will temporarily the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop". Is there anyway to get past this? Is this a bad thing? It will not let me go anyfarther until I have added the APT::Force-LoopBreak option (I am assuming to my apt.conf) |
| 14:51.21 | bluszcz | i've got sasl packaged installed, as well as postfix-tls package |
| 14:51.21 | Maulkin | HPS`Fresh: I have no idea what you're saying, I can't even see those characters properly. I'd suggest typing "/join #debian-russian". Mind you, I don't know if you'll undertsand this either... |
| 14:51.30 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: WalMart is a known problem. |
| 14:51.50 | banXoo | fpiat: i dont have int10 in my XFreeconfig file |
| 14:51.55 | Anthro | If only there were a bugzilla.congress.gov |
| 14:52.04 | azeem | heh |
| 14:52.04 | CerridwenWolve | Anthro... I could get myhands on alchy.. Im old enough to drink, just can't. I gave it up. |
| 14:52.10 | azeem | WONTFIX |
| 14:52.20 | Maulkin | nashirak: Do you get that if you try "apt-get dist-upgrade" ? |
| 14:52.26 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Ah, that's different. |
| 14:52.27 | salahuddin | is there any room for debian i18n ? |
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| 14:52.34 | nashirak | Maulkin: I have not tried that |
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| 14:52.52 | CerridwenWolve | Anthro: Yup, just didn't like being a slut when I was trashed |
| 14:52.56 | valdyn | salahuddin: whats wrong with sids precompiled pango-enabled firefox? |
| 14:52.57 | Maulkin | nashirak: And what version are you running? Stable, unstable, testing etc... |
| 14:53.10 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Heh. Wear complicated underwear. |
| 14:53.20 | CerridwenWolve | lol |
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| 14:53.33 | nashirak | Maulkin: Umm... I dont remember... Sarge (I think at one point) |
| 14:53.39 | thingfish | better yet, don't get trashed, just get a little buzz on. |
| 14:53.39 | salahuddin | CerridwenWolve: that firefox can't render the indic (complex text layout) for my language bengali |
| 14:53.41 | azeem | salahuddin: do you mean for specific language support, or general i18n development issues/coordination? |
| 14:53.42 | Maulkin | And one of these days I really will type a sentence properly. |
| 14:53.47 | CerridwenWolve | Anthro: Ever see Robinhood men in tights? I need a set of everlasts. lol |
| 14:53.49 | Maulkin | More coffee needed, I think. |
| 14:54.02 | Maulkin | nashirak: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 14:54.02 | nashirak | Maulkin: I know that I am set to testing/unstable (for apt-gets) |
| 14:54.19 | Maulkin | nashirak: Then you really must use dist-upgrade |
| 14:54.19 | nashirak | Maulkin: 3.1 |
| 14:54.28 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Layers. boxers over bike shorts over tights over briefs. |
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| 14:54.43 | salahuddin | azeem: general |
| 14:54.48 | HPS`Fresh | Maulkin thnx :) i just have think that you are from russian too. i have join that chenell alredy :) |
| 14:54.49 | CerridwenWolve | Anthro: I'm a chick |
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| 14:54.50 | Maulkin | nashirak: if you're trying to go from one release to another, use dist-upgrade |
| 14:54.51 | nashirak | Maulkin: Its running now |
| 14:55.02 | Maulkin | HPS`Fresh: No, I'm in the UK :) |
| 14:55.06 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Okay, boxers over bike shorts over tights over panties. The concept is the same. |
| 14:55.07 | nashirak | Maulkin: Thx |
| 14:55.07 | CerridwenWolve | salahuddin, pardon? |
| 14:55.10 | abrotman | azeem: nope |
| 14:55.12 | thingfish | hehe Anthro |
| 14:55.15 | CerridwenWolve | Tru |
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| 14:55.29 | CerridwenWolve | Hey i admit it Boxers are comfy |
| 14:55.38 | HPS`Fresh | Maulkin wel/ /it`s not russia, but it`s good country too :) |
| 14:55.43 | Maulkin | :) |
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| 14:56.03 | salahuddin | CarridewbWlve: :) it is related to the pango-indic-fc sorry |
| 14:56.06 | HPS`Fresh | Maulkin oh... sorry :) it`s a good kingdom :) |
| 14:56.22 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: If you're feeling especially evil and wish to traumatize any guy who tries to "pick your locks" when you're drunk you can insert some fake vampire teeth. |
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| 14:56.37 | fpiat | BanXoo, (just to make sure..) you looked in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
| 14:56.40 | Maulkin | HPS`Fresh: I'm not a monarchist, country is fine by me :) |
| 14:56.43 | CerridwenWolve | salahuddin, ok I have no clue what you were talking about but hey its ok |
| 14:56.58 | CerridwenWolve | lol |
| 14:57.03 | huh | omg fake vampire teeth - HAH! that's funny :) |
| 14:57.09 | CerridwenWolve | That would be halarious. |
| 14:57.34 | HPS`Fresh | did anybody have already try Q4 ? linux release i mean |
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| 14:57.38 | CerridwenWolve | I wonder if my fiance could appreciate that |
| 14:57.54 | Maulkin | HPS`Fresh: What is Q4? |
| 14:57.56 | Lounis_ | what is q4? |
| 14:58.00 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: I'd expect it to be pretty traumatizing. I wouldn't pull it on him without warning. |
| 14:58.09 | huh | i bet he would laugh afterwards though |
| 14:58.13 | Anthro | I expect he means Quake 4. |
| 14:58.17 | CerridwenWolve | True ... then warning would kill the surprise |
| 14:58.21 | abrotman | azeem: ah .. i lied .. it works fine now .. should i file a bug ? |
| 14:58.24 | Maulkin | ahh. |
| 14:58.30 | salahuddin | CerridwenWolve: it says me that error loading modules (in firefox while loading pango modules) (in sid) |
| 14:58.39 | Inchabod | oddcastv3.cpp:28:21: sndfile.h: No such file or directory |
| 14:58.40 | Anthro | "Hey, baby, I have a surprise in my pants" might (MIGHT!) be enough warning. |
| 14:58.41 | bluszcz | warning: smtpd_sasl_auth_enable is true, but SASL support is not compiled in |
| 14:58.42 | resiak | HPS`Fresh: I'm sure _someone_ has tried Quake4 |
| 14:58.43 | bluszcz | any idea? |
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| 14:58.50 | CerridwenWolve | Um whats pango |
| 14:58.53 | abrotman | !Pango |
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| 14:59.04 | abrotman | CerridwenWolve: gnome stuff |
| 14:59.04 | huh | !Pango |
| 14:59.08 | HPS`Fresh | resiak sorry for my unperfect english :) |
| 14:59.22 | HPS`Fresh | Maulkin quake 4 |
| 14:59.24 | CerridwenWolve | I haven't messed with gnome.. Im still a newbie to linux |
| 14:59.31 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: I think Pango has something to do with the GNOME help system. |
| 14:59.34 | azeem | abrotman: hrm, works here |
| 14:59.40 | CerridwenWolve | O |
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| 14:59.42 | resiak | HPS`Fresh: i'm wondering what your question is. |
| 14:59.44 | thingfish | that's ok, HPS`Fresh, I'm sure we'd be worse in russian than you are in english. |
| 14:59.50 | CerridwenWolve | salahuddin, I use kde and fluxbox |
| 15:00.00 | azeem | abrotman: I got the following in ~/.jack3rc: |
| 15:00.00 | BanXoo | fpiat: u was right, i looked to an older file, however, i restart X, but hardware accel dont work yet |
| 15:00.00 | azeem | unusable_chars:[" "] |
| 15:00.00 | azeem | replacement_chars:["_"] |
| 15:00.14 | salahuddin | CerridwenWolve: www.pango.org |
| 15:00.14 | xxxpixie | hi :). where should put 'modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp' and 'modprobe ip_conntrack_irc' ? should i just put them in /etc/modules or is there a better way? |
| 15:00.17 | abrotman | azeem: which works ? .. the char replacement works in the .jack3rc .. but not command line .. or --save from commandline(in the wrong place) |
| 15:00.21 | azeem | abrotman: then I cd into a directory with ripped .oggs, and run jack -R, which retags things with _ |
| 15:00.30 | azeem | abrotman: ah, ok |
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| 15:00.39 | abrotman | azeem: file a bug on option processing ? |
| 15:00.52 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: Anyway, the fiance thing should help with the alcohol thing, especially if he's with you. |
| 15:00.57 | azeem | can you paste the command-line you use? |
| 15:01.07 | CerridwenWolve | Yeah |
| 15:01.11 | Maulkin | Well, my $russian == "nyet" and, erm, "Pogalujsta, zajdite na". |
| 15:01.15 | CerridwenWolve | I don't have time to go out anyways |
| 15:01.20 | salahuddin | CerridewnWolve: lol sorry again (i am mad debian & gnome usr) |
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| 15:01.26 | thingfish | hehe |
| 15:01.31 | CerridwenWolve | And well he isn't a drinker so its all settled |
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| 15:02.10 | Anthro | CerridwenWolve: There you go. Designated driver and designated chaperone all at once. |
| 15:02.10 | CerridwenWolve | salahuddin, its ok man. |
| 15:02.11 | abrotman | $ jack -Q --encoder-name "lame" -t 3 --rename-fmt "%a-%l-%n-%t"--unusable-chars " " --replacement-chars "_" --save |
| 15:02.14 | abrotman | azeem: ^^ |
| 15:02.19 | CerridwenWolve | Exactly |
| 15:02.26 | fpiat | BanXoo, i don't have a 9700 (just a 7500 on my laptop ;( ). i don't think i can help much.. |
| 15:02.35 | abrotman | azeem: erm .. put in a space obviously :) |
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| 15:02.41 | zapusz | hello |
| 15:03.03 | CerridwenWolve | brb |
| 15:03.16 | xxxpixie | where should put 'modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp' and 'modprobe ip_conntrack_irc' ? should i just put them in /etc/modules or is there a better way? |
| 15:03.17 | CerridwenWolve | gotta grab lappy |
| 15:03.21 | fpiat | BanXoo, double check Flavio's page... then, may be someone else can help (anybody, out there ?) |
| 15:03.32 | BanXoo | fpiat:thanx anyway, i'll try to look into the XFree log file, maybe i can find something there |
| 15:03.42 | Anthro | Does anyone know of any gotchas with Asterisk on Debian? I'm building a special-purpose Asterisk box. |
| 15:03.54 | abrotman | phones ? |
| 15:03.59 | Anthro | abrotman: Yes. |
| 15:04.07 | abrotman | i meant .. you need phones :) |
| 15:04.07 | Anthro | abrotman: Or, rather, a phone server. |
| 15:04.20 | abrotman | well .. i guess you don't .. but it was supposed to be a joke damn it! |
| 15:04.22 | Maulkin | Anthro: Nope. |
| 15:04.29 | Anthro | abrotman: Yeah, I got that part. |
| 15:04.52 | zapusz | anyone know what name polish debian chanell ?? |
| 15:04.55 | Anthro | What kernel variant does a VIA EPIA need? 686? |
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| 15:05.01 | Anthro | !pl |
| 15:05.01 | dpkg | i heard pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 15:05.09 | fpiat | xxxpixie, how do you configure your firewall ??? |
| 15:05.27 | xxxpixie | fpiat: right now - just two lines of iptables |
| 15:06.09 | zapusz | thank but this place isn't anybody |
| 15:06.13 | HPS`Fresh | thingfish :) well we can teaÓ each other |
| 15:06.21 | xxxpixie | fpiat: i don't want to write a sepparate script, so i just put them into /etc/network interfaces as pre-up... should i put those modprobes there too? |
| 15:06.27 | HPS`Fresh | thingfish teac==teach :) |
| 15:06.29 | abrotman | azeem: in order to test .. you have to move your .jack3rc out of the way |
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| 15:06.52 | azeem | abrotman: ok, there's something goofed up |
| 15:06.52 | fpiat | xxxpixie, then, why not pyu your modprobe at the begining of your script... you 'll load it when you will use it only. |
| 15:06.58 | thingfish | HPS`Fresh: :) |
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| 15:07.12 | abrotman | azeem: i know this :) |
| 15:07.16 | azeem | abrotman: --unusable-chars=" " works |
| 15:07.25 | abrotman | right .. but --replacement doesn't |
| 15:07.35 | abrotman | it just puts in % instead |
| 15:07.46 | mypapit | hello... is there any good tutorial on how to create .deb file from source? |
| 15:08.01 | xxxpixie | fpiat: just wondering if there is a special debian way of doing that... :) |
| 15:08.21 | abrotman | mypapit: /msg dpkg mg |
| 15:08.25 | Knoppix_ | i have a problem, installing debian with debootstrap ( chroot ).I have installed the base system, but when i do now chroot /mnt/debinst it doesnt give me the debian hand on the terminal but the #KNOPPIX one, so i dont know how to control the debian system base on the terminal to install the kernel :( |
| 15:08.27 | Maulkin | mypapit: the new maintainer's guide |
| 15:08.36 | abrotman | mypapit: /msg dpkg nm |
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| 15:08.48 | mypapit | Maulkin, abrotman thanks |
| 15:09.14 | Maulkin | mypapit: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide |
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| 15:09.23 | fpiat | xxxpixie, if you wanted it to get loaded at boot time, /etc/modules would have booen the right place... |
| 15:09.33 | hayova | hi 2all! |
| 15:09.35 | mypapit | Maulkin, thank you ;) |
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| 15:09.55 | azeem | abrotman: what I mean is: If you put a = beetween --unusable-chars and the " " argument, file name replacement works, at least for me |
| 15:10.01 | xxxpixie | fpiat: i gues... |
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| 15:10.21 | hayova | need help |
| 15:10.24 | azeem | abrotman: for some reason, you don't need = for the rename-fmt and replacement-chars options |
| 15:10.31 | abrotman | azeem: oh wait .. let me try that |
| 15:10.32 | fpiat | xxxpixie, but for your firewall, i have built a quick init.d file based on /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 15:10.38 | azeem | abrotman: same with --save, it works fine with the = |
| 15:10.45 | HPS`Fresh | thingfish let you say "vodka" "babuska" "linux" :) |
| 15:10.57 | abrotman | with the = ? .. the = specifies the file you wish to save ? |
| 15:11.06 | hayova | I've 2 downloaded DVD-images from ftp://ftp.ru.debian.org/pub/Linux/debian-...e-amd64/iso-dvd with Debian 3.1r0a for AMD64. While installation at the "Loading installer components from CD" d-i says that libuuid1-udeb has bad md5 sum. |
| 15:11.06 | hayova | Where the trouble? How can I avoid md5sum cheking? |
| 15:11.06 | hayova | Thank you and sorry for my english. |
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| 15:11.31 | rohal | what is the difference between apt & dpkg?? |
| 15:11.33 | azeem | hayova: check whether it is a bad burn |
| 15:11.40 | abrotman | rohal: apt-get is a front end to dpkg |
| 15:11.48 | abrotman | rohal: or did you mean the bots ? |
| 15:11.50 | azeem | or was there something about disabling DMA for the CD drive? |
| 15:11.51 | hayova | i'm allready done it |
| 15:11.56 | hayova | all ok |
| 15:12.01 | hayova | reburn for 3 times |
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| 15:12.13 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 15:12.18 | rohal | abrotman: no i meant the same.....i couldnt understand why debian has two package management tools... |
| 15:12.22 | d1d4c | hi all 2 |
| 15:12.25 | xxxpixie | fpiat: i don't want to sepparate the configuration of the interface and the initialization of the firewall - i think i'll write a pre-up script for my eth0, so the fw rules are set whil it's still down |
| 15:12.29 | abrotman | azeem: should it work without the = ? |
| 15:12.33 | azeem | rohal: the are orthogonal |
| 15:12.37 | stdoubt | rohal: dselect is the bones, dpkg is the muscle, apt is the skin ;) |
| 15:12.38 | azeem | abrotman: guess so |
| 15:12.40 | abrotman | rohal: they are not the same .. |
| 15:12.43 | azeem | rohal: apt builds upon dpkg |
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| 15:12.55 | nullvoid | I am seeing everyday in my auth.log that some stupid guy want to hack in my server via ssh and vsftpd, anything that I can do |
| 15:12.57 | abrotman | azeem: should i file a bug .. or are you going to? or are you just going to send upstream ? |
| 15:13.18 | nullvoid | I had trace the owner of the IP and it came from japan and korea |
| 15:13.18 | rohal | so apt is a apart of dpkg...it just makes the use of dpkg easier..... |
| 15:13.24 | valdyn | nullvoid: not really. that's just bots |
| 15:13.27 | abrotman | rohal: apt-get is a front end to dpkg |
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| 15:13.47 | Guerin | well, no |
| 15:13.54 | Guerin | apt-get is a front to libapt |
| 15:14.11 | Guerin | dpkg is a tool libapt uses to enforce its will |
| 15:14.11 | abrotman | details deatils |
| 15:14.15 | bbrazil | nullvoid: just run john every now and then to check you've got good passwords - or restrict ssh/ftp to public key auth |
| 15:14.16 | rohal | abrotman: so why do we need the front-end ....why not just dpkg......just to make the task easier... |
| 15:14.20 | hayova | guys, is there any way to avoid md5sum cheking while installation? |
| 15:14.24 | nullvoid | valdyn: I guess so, any idea to stop it |
| 15:14.26 | huh | to me it seems ignorant that there are thousands of bots combing the net looking for unlocked doors. how did it come to this? |
| 15:14.32 | valdyn | nullvoid: you cant stop it |
| 15:14.35 | abrotman | rohal: because otherwise .. among other things .. you'd have to download packages manually .. |
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| 15:14.48 | abrotman | rohal: apt-get figures out the dependencies .. and downlaods them all |
| 15:14.52 | Guerin | huh: people are stupid. film at 11 |
| 15:15.00 | huh | :) |
| 15:15.05 | rohal | abrotman: k got it |
| 15:15.10 | nullvoid | valdyn: I put in pam_abl to ban |
| 15:15.14 | abrotman | rohal: man apt-get might explain this |
| 15:15.20 | Guerin | hayova: man apt-get; man apt_preferences |
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| 15:15.28 | valdyn | nullvoid: there is at least a few thousand bots doing this |
| 15:15.31 | HPS`Fresh | hayova: man sex |
| 15:15.33 | valdyn | nullvoid: probably more like 100k |
| 15:15.36 | hayova | apt-get? |
| 15:15.37 | Kovecses | hello guys |
| 15:15.40 | nullvoid | wow |
| 15:15.46 | hayova | i'm talking about installation |
| 15:16.09 | nullvoid | how do I read the db file that pam_abl is putting the ban list? |
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| 15:16.17 | rohal | abrotman: so i dont need to worry about dpkg....just knowing apt-get is enough..... |
| 15:16.25 | nullvoid | pam_abl should append hosts.db and users.db |
| 15:16.40 | abrotman | rohal: not really .. you should know both .. dpkg can do some other things apt-get can't |
| 15:16.43 | azeem | abrotman: please file a bug, quoting the command-line |
| 15:16.52 | nullvoid | the problem is that, it's not an ascii file for me to know what is in there |
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| 15:17.04 | azeem | abrotman: I am currently writing a report for the Systems expo |
| 15:17.17 | abrotman | azeem: gotcha |
| 15:17.25 | abrotman | azeem: you could do both :) |
| 15:17.35 | Guerin | abrotman: lies ... apt-get can incorporate any dpkg option via -o |
| 15:17.36 | abrotman | azeem: thanks for helping out .. you get a beer when you get to philly! |
| 15:17.46 | abrotman | Guerin: in a round-about way .. yes .. you're right |
| 15:17.59 | azeem | heh |
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| 15:18.11 | skodes | what's the command to start xserver? |
| 15:18.12 | abrotman | azeem: maybe 3 :) |
| 15:18.33 | hayova | so, like allways :( real trouble has no solve.... :((( |
| 15:18.54 | _rene_ | skodes: X, but I guess you want startx :) |
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| 15:19.32 | skodes | startx command not found |
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| 15:19.53 | rohal | apt-get install enlightenment eutils Reading package lists... Done E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header my preferences file is empty............ |
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| 15:20.12 | findmel | anyone has the creative Nanon plus 1GB player? |
| 15:20.20 | Guerin | rohal: wow, you broke shit good and proper |
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| 15:20.33 | Guerin | findmel: why the hell are you asking us? |
| 15:20.47 | findmel | oopsie, my bad |
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| 15:21.00 | rohal | Guerin: right now i just want to install the stable version of enlightenment.....:) |
| 15:21.05 | daEAGLEmon | that extra extra read all about it, from dpkg, how long b4 xorg trickles down to the other mirrors? |
| 15:21.28 | dvs | daEAGLEmon: for etch? It should be there a long time ago. |
| 15:21.41 | HPS`Fresh | tell me please, how can i run kde apps with specific language interface? i have fogot the directive ^) |
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| 15:21.55 | Guerin | rohal: you're using unstable ... why are you even bothering? |
| 15:21.59 | daEAGLEmon | dvs, no for sarge |
| 15:22.01 | fpiat | skodes, did you installed xbase-clients |
| 15:22.04 | dvs | daEAGLEmon: never |
| 15:22.14 | dvs | daEAGLEmon: Unless you use backports |
| 15:22.14 | daEAGLEmon | ummm |
| 15:22.15 | hayova | is someone here who tried to install sarge-amd64? |
| 15:22.16 | Guerin | daEAGLEmon: xorg is already in testing, on all mirrors |
| 15:22.26 | Guerin | hayova: no, we all use MIPS |
| 15:22.33 | hayova | :) |
| 15:22.43 | rohal | Guerin: i said i just want to get e16.....dropped the idea of installing e17...it will be a headach... |
| 15:22.45 | daEAGLEmon | Guerin, dvs not in tesing in stable |
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| 15:23.08 | dvs | daEAGLEmon: It is in testing (etch) but never for stable (sarge) |
| 15:23.14 | daEAGLEmon | dpkg said something about it being in stable earlier |
| 15:23.14 | Guerin | daEAGLEmon: never going to be in sarge. etch will be stable in a year or so, just wait. |
| 15:23.24 | Guerin | daEAGLEmon: dpkg lied. |
| 15:23.35 | dvs | !liar |
| 15:23.35 | dpkg | from memory, liar is me |
| 15:23.38 | abrotman | azeem: severity important ? |
| 15:23.40 | dvs | see? |
| 15:23.42 | daEAGLEmon | hee |
| 15:23.49 | abrotman | perhaps i guess just normal |
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| 15:24.52 | daEAGLEmon | this is url it gave deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main |
| 15:25.02 | azeem | abrotman: yeah, normal seems appropriate |
| 15:25.08 | abrotman | azeem: i did as such |
| 15:25.12 | azeem | thanks |
| 15:25.23 | Guerin | daEAGLEmon: well, made by a DD who knows his shit ... might work |
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| 15:26.40 | daEAGLEmon | ummm... ok but y post it in here if it's only dev not stable |
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| 15:26.58 | Guerin | daEAGLEmon: yes. |
| 15:27.01 | dvs | daEAGLEmon: I'll probably work for stable (sarge) but it's not official |
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| 15:27.13 | daEAGLEmon | ah ok |
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| 15:28.31 | positrix | what was the command for ext2 --> ext3? |
| 15:28.42 | skodes | has anyone here used a net install to install debian? |
| 15:28.42 | Maulkin | tune2fs -j IIRC |
| 15:28.52 | Maulkin | yes |
| 15:28.53 | dvs | skodes: Just ask the question |
| 15:29.08 | daEAGLEmon | i did |
| 15:29.17 | daEAGLEmon | works great |
| 15:29.24 | skodes | did u have anyproblems with xserver i can't get it to start |
| 15:29.37 | abrotman | !u |
| 15:29.37 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:29.39 | Maulkin | no. Worked fine for me |
| 15:29.59 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, i had to edit my XF86Config a bit |
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| 15:30.10 | skodes | how do i do that? |
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| 15:31.07 | daEAGLEmon | in gnome or kde? |
| 15:31.16 | positrix | Maulkin: thanks |
| 15:31.18 | dvs | !drxx skodes |
| 15:31.18 | fpiat | skodes, are you familiar with linux, and esp. debian ? you might want to try to run tasksel.. |
| 15:31.19 | dpkg | skodes: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 15:31.21 | skodes | i can't get passed text |
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| 15:31.32 | daEAGLEmon | ever use vim? |
| 15:31.43 | skodes | no |
| 15:31.45 | abrotman | azeem: hopefully my rambling makes sense :) |
| 15:31.51 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, emacs? |
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| 15:32.03 | skodes | no |
| 15:32.19 | nashirak | Maulkin: Hey I have done an apt-get dist-upgrade and its still coming back saying that it needs to remove e2fsprogs.... |
| 15:32.21 | daEAGLEmon | ok well, i know vim pretty well |
| 15:32.31 | nullvoid | !u |
| 15:32.31 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:32.34 | skodes | whats vim? |
| 15:32.39 | Maulkin | !netspeak |
| 15:32.39 | dpkg | See http://usrbinw00t.keenspace.com/comics/20021217.gif |
| 15:32.45 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, a text editor |
| 15:32.54 | skodes | o ok |
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| 15:33.36 | fpiat | skodes, tasksel will let you choose the purpose of you debian install. Select desktop.. it will then setup a Desktop envireoonement (graphic..) |
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| 15:33.39 | skodes | where is the file i want to edit |
| 15:33.46 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, do you know your hardware real well, you'll need horizonal and vertical refresh rates from your monitor |
| 15:34.15 | skodes | i think so |
| 15:34.39 | skodes | i got all the info out of windows |
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| 15:35.11 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, the file is /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, not sure you can get refresh info from windows |
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| 15:35.41 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, by refresh i am talking about min and max rates |
| 15:35.53 | daEAGLEmon | need monitor manual for those |
| 15:35.59 | dvs | or google |
| 15:36.03 | stdoubt | or a knoppix cd |
| 15:36.20 | Coweater | knoppix guesses |
| 15:36.38 | stdoubt | guesses better than debian does ;) |
| 15:36.39 | skodes | it's a laptop |
| 15:36.40 | daEAGLEmon | google would be better find exact monitor |
| 15:37.02 | takatumi | skodes: start with checking errors in /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
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| 15:38.20 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, if you do startx what (EE) do you get |
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| 15:38.45 | fpiat | gentlmen... skodes has no "startx" binaries => "startx command not found" |
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| 15:39.22 | daEAGLEmon | fpiat, not in path or not on pc? |
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| 15:40.16 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, after you installed and rebooted did you choose desktop for the config? |
| 15:40.17 | fpiat | daEAGLEmon, ask him, but since his not used to linux and it's a fresh netinst... i guess he doesn't have it on pc. |
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| 15:41.03 | skodes | i have it on an intel laptop |
| 15:41.07 | azeem | hey soeren |
| 15:41.15 | sdschulze | Why can't I tell aptitude where to cache the archives with -o Cache::archives="/home/soeren/archives/" ? |
| 15:41.40 | azeem | sdschulze: does it work for apt-get ? |
| 15:41.44 | daEAGLEmon | skodes, after you installed and rebooted did you choose desktop in the config and let it download and install what it needed? |
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| 15:42.24 | azeem | abrotman: hrm, I get a different behaviour. Here, it only works for --unusable-chars=. If I put --replacement-chars=, jack even hangs and consumes 100% CPU :-/ |
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| 15:42.59 | fpiat | skodes, let me put in another way.. if you run the command : dpkg -l x-window-system-core |
| 15:43.24 | skodes | i |
| 15:43.37 | abrotman | azeem: oh .. cute |
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| 15:44.01 | skodes | guys i think it's instaled wrong, none of the files u told me to edit existed |
| 15:44.04 | fpiat | skodes, it will print if x-window-system-core is installed (for me "ii x-window-syste 6.8.2.dfsg.1-7 X Window System core components") "ii" means installed |
| 15:44.16 | abrotman | azeem: i can certainly double check |
| 15:44.36 | daEAGLEmon | fpiat, heh i get none, but i am in xchat |
| 15:44.38 | azeem | using = for both works, though |
| 15:44.57 | cddesjar | irssi rules! |
| 15:44.58 | sdschulze | Ah, I see the error. |
| 15:45.02 | abrotman | azeem: hrm .. let me double check |
| 15:45.06 | sdschulze | have to add the Dir:: prefix |
| 15:45.07 | azeem | ok, thanks |
| 15:45.36 | abrotman | azeem: you're saying use = only on replacement ? |
| 15:45.43 | azeem | yep |
| 15:45.49 | fpiat | skodes, no problem. try running "tasksel" |
| 15:45.52 | abrotman | azeem: ah .. you're right .. i had only tried = on both |
| 15:45.57 | abrotman | azeem: mine is now hung :) |
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| 15:46.09 | skodes | yeah it didn't install right |
| 15:46.12 | azeem | abrotman: ok, I'll follow-up on the report with that then |
| 15:46.18 | abrotman | azeem: ok .. |
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| 15:46.33 | abrotman | azeem: strace gets stuck in a mremap command |
| 15:46.36 | fpiat | skodes, is "Desktop.." checked ? |
| 15:46.44 | cddesjar | !george bush |
| 15:46.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, george bush is eehhh..ehhhh...dunno, or a short-dicked, draft dodging, weed smoking, rubber bellied hillbilly |
| 15:47.29 | skodes | what Desktop, i'm in the shell |
| 15:47.42 | daEAGLEmon | dpkg draft dodgers when to canada, he joined the guard big diff |
| 15:47.48 | azeem | abrotman: whoa |
| 15:47.53 | abrotman | azeem: ? |
| 15:47.58 | abrotman | oh .. the strace |
| 15:48.07 | kamaraju | when I do ls kk?, the shell expands the ? to a single character match. Is there any way to see what all the shell has checked? I guess the output of this command will be kk1 kk2 kk3 ... kka kkb kkc .... kkA kkB kkC .... Any ideas? |
| 15:48.13 | abrotman | azeem: i swear i didn't break it! |
| 15:48.43 | cddesjar | man does the xfce4 file manager suck! |
| 15:48.45 | abrotman | kamaraju: ? means any character .. coudl be kk- or kk_ |
| 15:48.49 | fpiat | skodes, excuse..i meant that when you run tasksel, you will havve many options in there. one is "Desktop Environnement" |
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| 15:49.09 | kamaraju | abrotman: Yes. I want to list all those combinations. Is there any command to do that? |
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| 15:49.21 | azeem | abrotman: sounds like it could be python b0rkage, even |
| 15:49.37 | abrotman | kamaraju: i just told you ... it's any single character :) .. and no .. i know of no way to try that |
| 15:50.20 | abrotman | azeem: that maybe .. but the --save thing also / |
| 15:50.21 | abrotman | ? |
| 15:50.25 | dvs | abrotman: script? (for in in kk*..) ? |
| 15:50.29 | dvs | abrotman: script? (for i in kk*..) ? |
| 15:50.35 | abrotman | dvs: not me .. tell kamaraju |
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| 15:50.57 | abrotman | dvs: he wants to see what ls kk? is actually checking |
| 15:51.14 | glen | wow.. have you guys tried DevIL for texturing? I recommend it... |
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| 15:51.19 | skodes | desktop enviorment is not checked off bnut i instaled it 2 times already |
| 15:51.45 | azeem | abrotman: I followed up (including some strace snippet) and CC'ed upstream |
| 15:51.49 | dvs | skodes: You installed what? Debian? |
| 15:52.28 | kamaraju | dvs: I tried for i in kk?; do echo $i; done But it echoes only kk? |
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| 15:52.55 | fpiat | skodes, did you noticed any error message ? |
| 15:53.07 | abrotman | azeem: yay! |
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| 15:54.00 | Geekbr | ae |
| 15:54.08 | skodes | np |
| 15:54.08 | Geekbr | alguem vai no conisli ?? |
| 15:54.10 | skodes | no |
| 15:54.28 | Geekbr | vamos levar documentacao |
| 15:54.37 | Anthro | !br |
| 15:54.37 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 15:55.02 | fpiat | skodes, i you don't remember, launch "aptitude" then press "F10" then select "Install" it's going to show what's left to install (if anything did onot install successfully). |
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| 15:57.04 | skodes | let me try an alternat miror |
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| 15:59.20 | marthijn | hi all, is there a pgp disk program for Linux?? |
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| 15:59.41 | abrotman | to encrypt a drive ? |
| 15:59.45 | abrotman | err partition ? |
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| 16:00.15 | marthijn | abrotman: a part of a harddisk (not a partition...) |
| 16:00.24 | kamaraju | Is there a way to finger all users on a given host? I can finger a single user by doing finger user@host.com . But how to finger all users on this host? |
| 16:00.24 | abrotman | just a single file ? |
| 16:00.58 | skodes | actualy i'm starting from scratch |
| 16:01.01 | skodes | bbl |
| 16:01.31 | fpiat | skodes, see u later |
| 16:01.38 | dvs | a lot later |
| 16:01.56 | marthijn | abrotman: I'm looking for a way to encrypt a container (pseudo-disk or virtual disk) |
| 16:02.26 | Maulkin | kamaraju: cat /etc/passwd|cut -d ":" -f 1|xargs finger |
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| 16:02.54 | UdontKnow | win 27 |
| 16:02.57 | UdontKnow | argh |
| 16:03.00 | Maulkin | :P |
| 16:03.08 | abrotman | UdontKnow: 42 ? |
| 16:03.27 | UdontKnow | abrotman: 42 is a query with a girl... |
| 16:03.28 | kamaraju | Maulkin: I do not have an account on this host. So I cannot do what you just said. |
| 16:03.32 | abrotman | marthijn: encrypting like it's a regular drive doesn't work ? |
| 16:03.43 | abrotman | UdontKnow: you stay on your side of the channel ... mmmkay? |
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| 16:03.58 | UdontKnow | abrotman: heh |
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| 16:04.14 | marthijn | abrotman: I want to create a container with a virtual disk in that encryped |
| 16:04.20 | UdontKnow | [28:#debian] |
| 16:04.21 | Gspot | hi |
| 16:04.25 | UdontKnow | abrotman: :P |
| 16:04.32 | Gspot | somebody speak spanish? |
| 16:04.35 | deepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.44 | scruffy | Maulkin: `finger *` seems to work fine |
| 16:04.50 | nvz | Gspot: somebody does. |
| 16:04.56 | nvz | Gspot: try #debian-es |
| 16:05.02 | Gspot | thanks |
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| 16:05.09 | abrotman | !es |
| 16:05.10 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:05.16 | abrotman | UdontKnow: ah ok |
| 16:05.19 | scruffy | !hola |
| 16:05.20 | dpkg | hola is, like, Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:05.43 | cddesjar | scroll down to comment number 2 |
| 16:05.45 | cddesjar | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072 |
| 16:05.48 | cddesjar | it's too funny |
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| 16:06.08 | cddesjar | man i'm glad i don't use gentoo |
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| 16:07.31 | MASoft | I use ESD, and Firefox for Internet Browsing. unfortunately I can't hear the sounds from Flash files in Firefox! anybody know how can I correct it ? |
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| 16:10.32 | Inchabod | Does anyone know how to make a slave hard drive accessable from a local user instead of root. |
| 16:10.44 | Inchabod | instead of just root* |
| 16:10.53 | Inchabod | The format is in NFTS |
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| 16:11.24 | scruffy | Inchabod: user option in fstab? |
| 16:11.33 | abrotman | !ro-ntfs |
| 16:11.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ro-ntfs is add umask=022 |
| 16:11.37 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 16:11.46 | Inchabod | fstab? |
| 16:11.57 | scruffy | Inchabod: see: abrotman |
| 16:12.16 | abrotman | !mount ntfs |
| 16:12.17 | dpkg | mounting NTFS is `mount -t ntfs -o uid=<uid>,gid=<gid>,umask=003 /dev/<ntfs partition> /<mount point>' or adding '/dev/<ntfs partition> /<mount point> ntfs uid=<uid>,gid=<gid>,defaults,umask=003 0 0' to your /etc/fstab |
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| 16:12.32 | abrotman | but you probably want it ro instead of rw |
| 16:12.41 | Inchabod | ro? |
| 16:12.48 | Inchabod | err |
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| 16:14.29 | magnus | where can I ask a question regarding debian netinstaller for amd64 |
| 16:14.34 | Inchabod | what if I don't know uid or gid? |
| 16:15.05 | rohal | my system autostarts gnome using gdm......what should i do if i have 2 or more windows manager....& i want to choose between them on each boot??? |
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| 16:16.01 | dvs | rohal: gdm allows you to chosse before you log in. |
| 16:16.05 | Maulkin | Inchabod: "man id" |
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| 16:16.24 | rohal | dvs: no it doesnt it just auto loads gnome.... |
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| 16:16.39 | thingfish | yes it does, rohal. |
| 16:16.46 | thingfish | look for Session |
| 16:16.52 | Someguy | Can someone help me, I can't boot into windows after installing linux. I can mount it on linux, but I can not boot to it. It comes up as an option, but after I select it, it just sits there not doing anything. |
| 16:17.03 | dvs | rodan: Look at the menus above the text boxes |
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| 16:17.17 | Inchabod | How do I unmount a already monted hd? |
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| 16:17.23 | dvs | Inchabod: umount |
| 16:17.24 | rohal | thingfish: so where should i fix the settings so that gdm let me choose between windows manager on boot?? |
| 16:17.25 | Someguy | umount |
| 16:17.32 | Maulkin | Inchabod: "man umount" |
| 16:17.34 | matthias_ | hi |
| 16:17.46 | Anthro | My machine is exceptionally sluggish. I don't think it always was. I suspect it is a DMA/PIO problem. How can I tell what DMA and PIO modes I should use? |
| 16:17.54 | dvs | rohal: When you pick another desktop, it wil ask you if you what to change it permanently |
| 16:18.23 | matthias_ | I want to create a new partition on my harddrive which I want to use with windows and linux. which filesystem do you recommend? |
| 16:18.39 | scruffy | Inchabod: regarding the unknown gid, you could always use the 'users' group (see /etc/group) and adjust the users accordingly. |
| 16:18.47 | bbrazil | matthias_: FAT32 |
| 16:18.47 | rohal | dvs:ok i got it....i have enabled auto login...thats why its not allowing me to choose... |
| 16:19.03 | dvs | rohal: Oh. I see. |
| 16:19.49 | Inchabod | ok |
| 16:19.50 | Inchabod | good |
| 16:19.51 | Inchabod | thanks |
| 16:19.55 | scruffy | Inchabod: also see `man 5 adduser.conf` if you haven't added the users yet. |
| 16:20.03 | matthias_ | bbrazil: another one? |
| 16:20.08 | magnus | hm i go ahead and ask here :) I downloaded the latest netinstall ISO for amd64 I could find on the debian homepage (from mars this year i believe? or june?) anyways, i burned it and then went ahead to install it. But the installation failed halfway, the log said something about apg-get missing, what can be wrong? |
| 16:20.31 | magnus | i tried to redo the installation several times, but with no sucess, is the amd64 installer broken atm? |
| 16:20.31 | valdyn | magnus: is the sarge netinstall. |
| 16:20.33 | scruffy | Inchabod: specifically, section on USERS_GID |
| 16:20.34 | Inchabod | I got it now |
| 16:20.35 | Inchabod | ;) |
| 16:20.42 | Inchabod | Thanks. |
| 16:20.50 | valdyn | magnus: *use* the sarge netinstall. |
| 16:21.13 | magnus | valdyn: the one I found has this name: debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 16:21.35 | magnus | valdyn: but that one is wrong? I would like to install testing/unstable for AMD64 |
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| 16:21.47 | dvs | magnus: That one is still under development (etch) |
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| 16:21.59 | bbrazil | matthias_: if you can withstand RO on the linux side go for NTFS |
| 16:22.05 | valdyn | magnus: still use the sarge netinstall and upgrade or use expert mode |
| 16:22.07 | beoba | random question unrelated to anything: this external harddrive has two firewire plugs on the back, what's the 2nd one for? |
| 16:22.09 | magnus | ok, so thats why it failed? |
| 16:22.15 | magnus | valdyn: ok |
| 16:22.24 | magnus | so atm there is no way to install amd64 debian? |
| 16:22.24 | Maulkin | beoba: Passthrough probably |
| 16:22.27 | fortran01 | how can i configure konqueror to show the entire file name when in icon view. For example, "a_long_file_name_such_as_this" is shown as "a_long_file..." |
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| 16:22.35 | bbrazil | matthias_: as long as you don't need security or large files, fat32 is you best bet |
| 16:22.41 | magnus | (in an easy way that is :) |
| 16:22.43 | valdyn | magnus: sarge amd64 netinstall exists |
| 16:22.52 | dvs | magnus: Listen to valdyn |
| 16:22.53 | matthias_ | bbrazil: thank you |
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| 16:23.01 | magnus | valdyn: aha, i though amd64 was not official until next release (post sarge?) |
| 16:23.14 | beoba | oh i gotcha |
| 16:23.18 | Hugo | I'm brazil too |
| 16:23.27 | valdyn | magnus: well, it isnt official, but who cares, practically you dont have to care |
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| 16:23.35 | magnus | valdyn: where can i find a amd64 sarge netinstall image? I am looking at the debian webpage but cannot find anything else than i386 netinst |
| 16:23.41 | valdyn | !amd64 |
| 16:23.41 | dpkg | from memory, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 16:23.51 | rohal | dvs: enlightenment doesnt show up in the sessions of gdm??? |
| 16:24.10 | dvs | rohal: Is enlightenment installed? |
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| 16:24.29 | rohal | dvs: yea it is installed |
| 16:24.31 | magnus | valdyn: thanks |
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| 16:24.50 | dvs | rohal: I don't know then |
| 16:24.59 | HPS`Fresh | guys! guys! listen me :) i have seen an app in MS, wich i want find for linux. the main idea of this think is: Just image: you`re typing word in some language, but after you tyoe enoth you can see, what you chose wrong charsett. yuo erase all you have type, press ctrl+shift and retype it in right charset. now just think, what you can press one button and all you have type will be automaicly convert in right. |
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| 16:25.50 | HPS`Fresh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:26.11 | maelcum | Hi! Does somebody in here know if (and where) there is a working keygen for the current Linuxant drivers? |
| 16:26.14 | rohal | can anyone tell me what should i do so that enlightenment appears as one of the options for gdm sessino....right now it just has gnome??? |
| 16:26.30 | Maulkin | !questionmarks |
| 16:26.30 | dpkg | No, please, one question mark is enough. Leave some for everyone else. |
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| 16:26.50 | Skrot | Hi. Is there a way to correct faulty length-info from mp3s? I ripped a couple of my CDs and some fo the tracks got a (very) wrong length :> |
| 16:26.50 | scruffy | heh |
| 16:27.04 | Maulkin | maelcum: No. |
| 16:27.57 | maelcum | Maulkin: You mean there is no working keygen right now? |
| 16:28.29 | Maulkin | maelcum: No, I mean no one here knows |
| 16:28.48 | Maulkin | I'd suggest ndiswrapper instead. |
| 16:29.02 | Maulkin | As it's free |
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| 16:29.37 | maelcum | Maulkin: mmkay. I know this is a bad question but paying for drivers is bad too... Oh, ndiswrapper works for softmodems too? USB too? |
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| 16:29.55 | Maulkin | Works for me |
| 16:30.17 | maelcum | Maulkin: Very cool. Thanks, will try! |
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| 16:36.20 | Moiana | Greetings.. Have anyone had success on installing Debian on a SATA disk with an ASUS P4S800D motherboard? the debian-installer locks up just before disk partitioning. The problem has been reported here, but no solution: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/09/mail3.html |
| 16:37.34 | cddesjar | i love this |
| 16:37.39 | cddesjar | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072 |
| 16:37.42 | cddesjar | that is too funny |
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| 16:39.01 | resiak | cddesjar: a) how many times are you going to paste that? b) most people here have probably seen it already: it's fairly famous. c) /msg dpkg enter |
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| 16:39.13 | cddesjar | just twice |
| 16:39.19 | nagytalop | re :) |
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| 16:40.16 | SniperJo | hi all |
| 16:40.58 | SniperJo | hi all !! |
| 16:41.28 | beoba | cddesjar: funny due to warpzero |
| 16:41.29 | beoba | ? |
| 16:41.35 | beoba | damned enter next to "'" |
| 16:41.54 | cddesjar | yup |
| 16:42.15 | cddesjar | i love it...HOLY COW I'M TOTALLY GOING SO FAST OH F*** |
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| 16:42.36 | beoba | :F |
| 16:42.39 | beoba | god damn it |
| 16:42.44 | beoba | that's supposed to be a ":D" |
| 16:42.44 | nagytalop | anybody use pvm? :) |
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| 16:43.15 | beoba | cocks? :D |
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| 16:44.30 | isoteles | nagytalop, where can i find more information about "pvm"? |
| 16:44.45 | nagytalop | i donno :) |
| 16:44.55 | abrotman | isoteles: google ? |
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| 16:45.13 | nagytalop | i just wanna install another op sys to a virtual machine |
| 16:45.22 | isoteles | abrotman, what is your name? |
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| 16:45.32 | abrotman | isoteles: abrotman |
| 16:45.34 | beoba | isoteles, what is your quest? |
| 16:45.36 | sha1sum | lol |
| 16:45.44 | nagytalop | but i dont knows any good machine |
| 16:45.53 | nagytalop | pvm is good? |
| 16:46.13 | sha1sum | beoba: know anything about swallows? heh |
| 16:46.28 | beoba | sha1sum: swallows swallow! ha ha! |
| 16:46.30 | zinosat | abrotman, remember I popped in for the "getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" problem? well, I fixed it adding /lib/libnss_files-2.3.5.so |
| 16:46.42 | cddesjar | !lol |
| 16:46.42 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 16:47.00 | abrotman | zinosat: the kerberos thing ? |
| 16:47.01 | sha1sum | okay let's not get our panties in a wad because somebody says lol |
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| 16:47.12 | abrotman | zinosat: oh .. yeah .. i remember .. that's weird |
| 16:47.14 | dorto | i was told to use /etc/fstab to mount .iso file onto a directory; where should i put the -o loop option? |
| 16:47.14 | sha1sum | heheh :) |
| 16:47.16 | nagytalop | and i have got problems with captive static :) |
| 16:47.34 | zinosat | abrotman, it happened when starting the graphical frontend of the d-i |
| 16:47.38 | abrotman | dorto: that's an option afaik |
| 16:47.47 | abrotman | zinosat: yeah .. i remember |
| 16:47.59 | dorto | its not mounting the iso file without that option for me |
| 16:48.01 | cddesjar | shalsum: don't argue with dpkg he is programmed by the finest irc users |
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| 16:48.23 | cddesjar | ;) |
| 16:48.35 | sha1sum | cddesjar: yes I know... I was being hypocritical; I'm the first one to whip out that trigger hehe :D |
| 16:48.55 | beoba | !lol |
| 16:48.55 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 16:49.05 | cddesjar | !AOL |
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| 16:49.05 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, aol is for people who dont know the highway from the driveway, or army of losers. They are teaming up with Sony to fight |
| 16:49.06 | dorto | or can i place the 'mount ....' command somewhere else so that it is executed every time debian boots? |
| 16:49.07 | beoba | !lol |
| 16:49.08 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 16:49.08 | dorto | for all users? |
| 16:49.16 | sha1sum | beoba: stop |
| 16:49.20 | beoba | :( |
| 16:49.20 | abrotman | dorto: it hsould be an option |
| 16:49.22 | abrotman | !botabuse |
| 16:49.22 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 16:49.28 | sha1sum | hahaha |
| 16:49.28 | beoba | !cocks |
| 16:49.28 | dpkg | cocks are male chickens! |
| 16:49.33 | beoba | :D |
| 16:49.39 | abrotman | beoba: lay off the bot |
| 16:49.40 | cddesjar | HOLY COW I'M TOTALLY GOING SO FAST OH F*** |
| 16:49.41 | resiak | Why doesn't abrotman have ops???? |
| 16:49.45 | dorto | !chicks |
| 16:49.52 | abrotman | resiak: ask EE |
| 16:49.56 | resiak | abrotman: I have |
| 16:50.01 | resiak | abrotman: Never got an aswer. |
| 16:50.06 | abrotman | resiak: ask again ? .. no idea |
| 16:50.12 | Jhair | cddesjar: stop it, when you say it 10 times it stops to being funny, ok? |
| 16:50.12 | sha1sum | well that explains it... you should be looking for an answer |
| 16:50.16 | magnus | valdyn: it worked, now I have AMD64 debian! thanks! :) |
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| 16:51.08 | grendal_prime | ok im gettin gthis on a package build |
| 16:51.10 | grendal_prime | make: dh_testdir: Command not found |
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| 16:51.12 | abrotman | resiak: maybe cause i'm friendly with the degenerates ? :) |
| 16:51.19 | resiak | abrotman: re-/msg'd |
| 16:51.28 | grendal_prime | im thinking i dont have the right compiller installed |
| 16:51.29 | sha1sum | resiak: yeah, he's right, he's always been friendly to me |
| 16:51.32 | sha1sum | heh :) |
| 16:51.38 | grendal_prime | ?? that make any sense to anyone? |
| 16:51.51 | cddesjar | abrotman: you usually tell me to go read the man pages |
| 16:51.52 | Maulkin | gelignite: apt-get install debhelper |
| 16:51.57 | Maulkin | ack... |
| 16:51.59 | cddesjar | or go to www.jfgi.us |
| 16:52.04 | abrotman | cddesjar: there's no man page for the bot |
| 16:52.10 | cddesjar | oh |
| 16:52.10 | Maulkin | grendal_prime: apt-get install debhelper |
| 16:52.37 | grendal_prime | howabout dhmake? |
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| 16:52.51 | cddesjar | i posted that bug report in #gentoo |
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| 16:53.19 | grendal_prime | heheh Maulkin that was one of the dep's for dhhame..so im good to go i think |
| 16:53.21 | grendal_prime | thanks |
| 16:53.48 | resiak | cddesjar: Right... You don't think that they a) have seen it about 700 times already; b) are sick of people doing that? *plonk* |
| 16:54.05 | SniperJo | hi guys !! |
| 16:54.05 | cddesjar | i know but i couldn't resist |
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| 16:54.11 | SniperJo | hi guys !! |
| 16:54.18 | abrotman | SniperJo: we heard you .. the first 3 times |
| 16:54.19 | cddesjar | it's the funnist thing i've seen in a bit |
| 16:54.28 | beoba | peanut butter jelly |
| 16:54.34 | SniperJo | I am having some troble installing php on my debain |
| 16:54.38 | resiak | !debain |
| 16:54.38 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 16:54.43 | abrotman | SniperJo: such as ? |
| 16:54.54 | sussudio | troblerone? |
| 16:55.06 | SniperJo | well it promts me to download the file |
| 16:55.18 | cddesjar | is gnome 2.12 fully in experimental now? |
| 16:55.32 | abrotman | SniperJo: apache1 or apache2 ? |
| 16:55.39 | SniperJo | apache 1 |
| 16:55.40 | _foobar_ | hi all |
| 16:55.43 | SniperJo | just apache |
| 16:55.49 | abrotman | SniperJo: apt-get install apache-mod-php4 |
| 16:56.37 | SniperJo | its abit of a mission top copy stuff |
| 16:56.49 | Maulkin | (erm... that should be libapache-mod-php4) :P |
| 16:56.55 | abrotman | err .. yes |
| 16:56.58 | abrotman | i'm retarded |
| 16:57.02 | fooscope | _foobar_: s'up brutha f |
| 16:57.08 | resiak | SniperJo: A mission? In what way? |
| 16:57.27 | SniperJo | like u cant c-cntrl copy with out de selecting |
| 16:57.36 | abrotman | yeah yeah |
| 16:57.38 | abrotman | !u |
| 16:57.39 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:57.39 | dvs | resiak: He has a spare? |
| 16:57.48 | abrotman | dvs: actually .. i don't |
| 16:57.52 | dvs | doh! |
| 16:57.55 | _foobar_ | nobody has this file:VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip? |
| 16:57.57 | abrotman | yay lappie! |
| 16:58.03 | resiak | SniperJo: Select the text, then middle-click to paste it into the terminal. |
| 16:58.05 | shik45 | http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot71dt.jpg what yall think |
| 16:58.08 | MaestroTechie | Does anyone know where i can add metadisk raid support in my linux kernel configuration? |
| 16:58.14 | SniperJo | ok well I already have installed that |
| 16:58.20 | Maulkin | SniperJo: Erm... middle click will paste. Copy is done at text selection time |
| 16:58.31 | abrotman | shik45: why do we care about that ? |
| 16:58.39 | Maulkin | SniperJo: "/etc/init.d/apache reload" |
| 16:58.54 | SniperJo | is that not the same as restart then ? |
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| 16:59.13 | Maulkin | Either will do |
| 16:59.26 | Maulkin | (no they're not the same BTW) |
| 16:59.47 | SniperJo | it still wants me to download the php file |
| 17:00.04 | Maulkin | That'll be because your mime information isn't handling php files |
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| 17:00.24 | SniperJo | ok sooooo to the apache httpd.conf ? |
| 17:00.31 | Maulkin | in /etc/init.d/apache/httpd.conf: |
| 17:00.34 | Maulkin | Add: " AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 17:00.35 | Maulkin | " |
| 17:00.51 | Maulkin | I think there's something there already, but commented out |
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| 17:02.23 | Neverth | "/etc/init.d/apache/httpd.conf" <--- ???? |
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| 17:03.42 | w3rdn4 | is there a console program that can convert .wma files to .wav or .ogg or .mp3? |
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| 17:04.07 | amorphix | has anyone ever had the hinges break on their laptop |
| 17:04.10 | MaestroTechie | w3rdn4: i believe .wma is proprietary to m$ |
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| 17:04.40 | relaxed | w3rdn4: mplayer -ao pcm audio.wma; then use lame on the dumped wav file |
| 17:04.41 | SniperJo | hmm I try to reload it but it says there is an error in the apache file |
| 17:04.51 | Maulkin | acl... |
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| 17:05.07 | Maulkin | yeah, sorry, /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 17:05.18 | sandman | I need a java runtime environment. Which package should I install. |
| 17:05.18 | SniperJo | ye ai figred that :P but |
| 17:05.20 | sandman | .=? |
| 17:05.21 | Maulkin | SniperJo: What's the error? |
| 17:05.34 | resiak | sandman: /topic |
| 17:05.38 | SniperJo | Syntax error on line 6 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf: |
| 17:05.39 | SniperJo | Invalid command 'AddType', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
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| 17:06.26 | BladeRunner05 | Hi all, why apt-cache say this The following packages have been kept back: |
| 17:06.47 | Maulkin | Erm... you probably shouldn't have that as high as line 6 |
| 17:06.50 | BladeRunner05 | there is a file to configure to keeping or to update a package ? |
| 17:07.01 | Maulkin | You'll need it after the |
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| 17:07.03 | renga | somebody how knows a pakage that sustitude java runtine inviroment |
| 17:07.08 | Maulkin | mod_mime_magic.c line |
| 17:07.12 | renga | ? |
| 17:07.21 | Anthro | !tell renga about java |
| 17:07.35 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: apt-cache says .. or apt-get says ? |
| 17:07.41 | Maulkin | SniperJo: sorry, not that line, that set of lines |
| 17:08.02 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: apt-get upgrade |
| 17:08.05 | Maulkin | SniperJo: search that file for AddType |
| 17:08.12 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: which version of debian ? |
| 17:08.21 | Maulkin | SniperJo: I think there's a line in there you can just uncomment |
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| 17:08.29 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 17:08.44 | abrotman | !real kernel |
| 17:08.45 | dpkg | it has been said that real kernel is The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. First though, do apt-cache search kernel-image- . Woody install kernels have several known vulnerabilities, including local roots & remote DoSes |
| 17:08.57 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: you're probablyh running woody .. right ? |
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| 17:09.39 | MaestroTechie | When trying to add built-in kernel support for my SCSI card I get: "This Feature depends on another which has been configured as a module. As a result, this feature will be built as a module". How do I find the feature it is dependent on? |
| 17:09.45 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: I'm running sarge, like I see in /etc/apt/source.list |
| 17:09.49 | renga | Anthro, |
| 17:09.54 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: paste it somewhere |
| 17:10.01 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman |
| 17:10.01 | abrotman | !paste |
| 17:10.01 | dpkg | hmm... paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
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| 17:10.07 | SniperJo | I think I did |
| 17:10.11 | SniperJo | well I just did |
| 17:10.16 | SniperJo | then reloaded it |
| 17:10.25 | renga | Anthro, I need this only to apen pages that ask me for java runtime enjviroment |
| 17:10.28 | SniperJo | but it still seems to want to download it |
| 17:10.39 | abrotman | it's a beach party vietnam! |
| 17:10.53 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: take a look http://pastebin.com/410095 |
| 17:10.57 | Anthro | renga: If a web page needs a Java runtime environment, you need a Java runtime. |
| 17:11.18 | Maulkin | SniperJo: Could you do a 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow apache' for me? Check that the php module has loaded. |
| 17:11.24 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
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| 17:11.30 | renga | anthro, is there a pakage for that? |
| 17:11.38 | gAri- | hi people, I think my system is compromised. I see processes that refer to files that arent even there, can you give me some advice how to proceed to find out the problem. Any way to find the place of a file on my filesystem that is exectued? |
| 17:11.43 | abrotman | !tell renga about install java |
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| 17:11.48 | SniperJo | ok |
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| 17:12.02 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: what do apt-get -u dist-upgrade ? |
| 17:12.14 | abrotman | show you what it's going to upgrade |
| 17:12.28 | Anthro | renga: Did you not read what dpkg sent you? /msg dpkg java |
| 17:12.29 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: you also *need* to upgrade your kernel .. but do this part first |
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| 17:13.13 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: If I upgrade the kernel on that pc I risk to crash the service running on |
| 17:13.19 | renga | thanks |
| 17:13.31 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: guess what .. the kernel yo're running is insecure .. you're risking being cracked .. you decide |
| 17:13.31 | BladeRunner05 | there is a place to find the .deb file shown by apt-cache policy sw ? |
| 17:13.51 | mboso | I'm looking to benchmark my system before i upgrade. suggestions on popular benchmarking suites? |
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| 17:14.03 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: I know this!!! the pc in isolated by the lan or internet |
| 17:14.13 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 17:14.13 | SniperJo | it has come up with a screen to select what I want apache to load |
| 17:14.22 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: there is a place to find the .deb file shown by apt-cache policy sw ? |
| 17:14.41 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 17:14.44 | abrotman | sw ? |
| 17:14.48 | SniperJo | it has come up with a screen to select what I want apache to load |
| 17:14.48 | Maulkin | SniperJo: yes |
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| 17:14.50 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: there is a place to find the candidate version .deb file shown by apt-cache policy sw ? |
| 17:14.57 | abrotman | i don't have the package sw |
| 17:14.57 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: there is a place to find the candidate version .deb file shown by apt-cache policy package ? |
| 17:15.04 | SniperJo | what do I want on :P |
| 17:15.12 | Maulkin | SniperJo: BTW, please mention my name in your lines, otherwise I'll miss it. |
| 17:15.14 | sandman | java sdk includes everything java jre does, yes? |
| 17:15.15 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: you mean find out where it's going to get the deb from ? |
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| 17:15.20 | abrotman | sandman: yes |
| 17:15.26 | Maulkin | SniperJo: the one with php in it |
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| 17:15.31 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: yes |
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| 17:15.47 | loca|host | hello |
| 17:15.58 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: probably not with the version you have .. |
| 17:16.02 | Borg^Queen | Hi people I have a couple of questions regarding installation. There are several options at one point, for example desktop, Printer server, file server, etc. |
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| 17:16.22 | abrotman | Borg^Queen: yes |
| 17:16.24 | SniperJo | hahhah how do I select it |
| 17:16.33 | Borg^Queen | All a friend of mine will be doing is just desktop work, word processing, graphics, audio etc. |
| 17:16.34 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: I need to find the candidate version of a package that is shown by apt-cache policy, where I can search for it ? |
| 17:16.43 | Miesco | Im trying to play a midi file with rosegarden and I get: Creating device 0 in Play mode -- no connection available Default device name for this device is Anonymous MIDI device 1 |
| 17:16.43 | tuv | gdesklets has been very unstable since gnome got upgraded from 2.8 to 2.10. any similar experience? any explanation? |
| 17:16.44 | abrotman | Borg^Queen: which desktop ? |
| 17:16.47 | Borg^Queen | Do I need to install any of the other things beyond desktop? |
| 17:16.49 | Borg^Queen | KDE |
| 17:16.52 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: ftp site ? |
| 17:16.56 | Borg^Queen | hey abrotman |
| 17:17.05 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: yes |
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| 17:17.16 | Xenguy | Hi - I'm running Mutt on Debian, and just realized that my version is not displaying french accented characters (they appear as rectangular box characters on my screen) -- does anyone know how I can enable UTF or something similar in (Debian) Mutt? |
| 17:17.19 | loca|host | i want to burn a cd from an iso file, i did burn -I -n /home/fourat/downloads/debian-31r0a-i386-businesscard.iso and it says : Error. Please insert a blank CD/DVD. |
| 17:17.22 | abrotman | Borg^Queen: i'd not select anything there .. and then just 'apt-get install kde kdm menu x-window-system' when at the prmopt |
| 17:17.37 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: http://ftp.debian.org/ ? |
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| 17:17.42 | Borg^Queen | abrotman: thanks |
| 17:17.49 | Maulkin | SniperJo: move up and down. Press space to select/deslect. And PLEASE say 'maulkin' somewhere in your irc messages if you want me to see it. |
| 17:17.49 | Borg^Queen | I didn't think she need anything more. |
| 17:17.49 | abrotman | Borg^Queen: and anything else you might want .. like firefox etc? |
| 17:18.02 | tuv | what is the best way to install gforge? debian packages give: could not connect to db! |
| 17:18.05 | BladeRunner05 | abrotman: in wich folder I have to look for it ? |
| 17:18.09 | Borg^Queen | Aye, desktop and manual selection |
| 17:18.19 | Miesco | jackd is not starting |
| 17:18.21 | Borg^Queen | FOLDER! NOOO its "Directory" |
| 17:18.25 | SniperJo | ahh do I have to reboot it after I have done that ?? |
| 17:18.26 | abrotman | BladeRunner05: apt-cache show <package> .. it tellls you where |
| 17:18.49 | SniperJo | not reboot, restart the package / |
| 17:19.20 | Maulkin | yes |
| 17:19.24 | Borg^Queen | SniperJo: What is this "Reboot" you speak of? |
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| 17:20.10 | Maulkin | SniperJo: please say 'Maulkin' when you speak to me. |
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| 17:20.25 | abrotman | maul: why? :) |
| 17:20.37 | Maulkin | abrotman: hilights :) |
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| 17:20.43 | abrotman | maul: why? |
| 17:20.50 | Borg^Queen | easier to keep treak of a conv |
| 17:20.54 | Borg^Queen | track even |
| 17:20.58 | abrotman | borg : why? |
| 17:21.03 | Borg^Queen | Oh stop that you |
| 17:21.05 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:21.05 | Maulkin | :) |
| 17:21.12 | abrotman | !nicktab |
| 17:21.12 | dpkg | Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles. For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one. |
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| 17:22.13 | fbi | !hangover |
| 17:22.13 | dpkg | hangover is probably your bodies retalliation for forcing it to have fun the night before.. See also: cure |
| 17:22.16 | Borg^Queen | ok good day people off to the grind. |
| 17:22.25 | Maulkin | laters Borg^Queen |
| 17:22.33 | Borg^Queen | Pitty me, for I must work with WhineDOH!s computers today. |
| 17:22.44 | Borg^Queen | A new convert is on the horizon |
| 17:22.49 | Maulkin | hahahaha :) |
| 17:23.08 | Borg^Queen | I'm taking a Knoppix CD to show them the "power of the darkside" |
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| 17:23.15 | Supaplex | you always loose when you're running win.com |
| 17:23.25 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 17:23.29 | Maulkin | \o/ |
| 17:23.47 | fbi | i love all these cute nicknames people come up with for windows. |
| 17:23.49 | fbi | it's cute. |
| 17:23.51 | Maulkin | *pssht* I am your kernel *pssht* |
| 17:24.04 | Darth^Borg | You don't know the power of the darkside.... |
| 17:24.14 | Darth^Borg | Should I be mixing Sci Fi series? |
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| 17:24.21 | Neverth | no? |
| 17:24.32 | Darth^Borg | fbi: I know I love the nicks in here |
| 17:24.37 | Maulkin | Join us, and together we will debug. |
| 17:24.54 | Neverth | and make memory overdrives |
| 17:25.18 | Darth^Borg | Maulkin: that's a cute one |
| 17:25.34 | Darth^Borg | Maulkin: you can never de-geek |
| 17:25.40 | Maulkin | Damn :) |
| 17:25.46 | Darth^Borg | Good day people |
| 17:25.50 | Maulkin | laters |
| 17:26.05 | Borg^Queen | but |
| 17:26.17 | Borg^Terminator | I'll be back |
| 17:26.18 | Neverth | gosh |
| 17:26.36 | Borg^Terminator | The Borg are very adaptive |
| 17:27.03 | Supaplex | I wonder if someone's made an adaptation of Bill Gates to all your base, but all your code |
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| 17:28.22 | Maulkin | Nah, that'll be SCO |
| 17:28.53 | adiv | any idea why courier imapd won't allow me to create any imap directories (except for the default ones)? |
| 17:29.00 | Supaplex | the're in bed together, so it's fitting either way :) |
| 17:29.22 | Supaplex | adiv: can you create a subdirectory of any existing folder? |
| 17:29.25 | Maulkin | adiv: permissions? |
| 17:29.32 | Neverth | i tried set up courier, it looked good but never got it working |
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| 17:31.43 | Anthro | adiv: Hm. That's odd. |
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| 17:31.57 | Anthro | adiv: How do you have the authentication set up? |
| 17:32.39 | Moiana | ;leave #debian |
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| 17:34.17 | Anthro | Neverth: I have it working nicely. |
| 17:34.52 | Neverth | i took cyrus |
| 17:35.44 | Josean | Hi all, prism54 kernel module dont run because i havent firmware żwhere i must put the firmware? |
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| 17:36.03 | Anthro | Neverth: What does cyrus use for a mail store? |
| 17:36.27 | Anthro | Josean: That kind of information is usually in /usr/share/doc/<package> |
| 17:36.43 | Josean | ok, thanks |
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| 17:38.56 | Neverth | dunno anymore, long time even checked if its still running |
| 17:39.23 | SnuS | my CourierIMAP + IMP setup isn't working. I can't create directories. I get "Invalid mailbox name." |
| 17:39.24 | Josean | no, prism54 is a kernel module, and ask for ISL3890 , im trying to get up an SMC2802W V2 wirelles card |
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| 17:39.49 | nwo | Is there a command to power off/on your monitors. (So you don't need to push the buttons. That would be nice with 2 displays) |
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| 17:40.35 | Anthro | SnuS: Can you create directories using another IMAP client, like Thunderbird? |
| 17:40.36 | Roxport | ok |
| 17:40.38 | SnuS | I tried googling, played with my servers.php and still, nothing. |
| 17:40.40 | Roxport | look here: |
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| 17:40.49 | tnks | hi all. I backed up my system, and restored it, and that works out well, but now I'm tried installing to a modified partitioning scheme, but that hosed grub. I can alway restore to the same partitioning I had before, but I'd like to see if I can rescue grub. I'm getting a error that says, "stage1 not read correct". Any pointers? |
| 17:40.49 | SnuS | Anthro I tried with telnet. it works if I use INBOX.dir |
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| 17:40.58 | Roxport | when installing sarge (2.6 option) sometimes the installer can see my cdrom- and sometimes not. what gives? |
| 17:41.06 | Anthro | SnuS: Sounds like you need to configure IMP to use the right prefix. |
| 17:41.07 | tnks | (I get that error on a grub-install /dev/hda |
| 17:41.12 | SnuS | Anthro it is setup to use INBOX. |
| 17:41.19 | SnuS | 'folders' => 'INBOX.','namespace' => '' |
| 17:41.49 | Anthro | SnuS: Hrm. Is there any useful information in /var/log/mail.err? |
| 17:41.57 | Roxport | error while running modprobe -v ide-generic what the heck? |
| 17:42.12 | SnuS | Anthro nope. |
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| 17:43.17 | Anthro | SnuS: I believe you can run courier-imap such that it runs in the foreground and sends verbose logging to stdout. Try that. |
| 17:43.56 | m24 | hi i have a small question . is it possible to install a debian version without having to burn it on cd (i dont have burner on that laptop) so i wonder if there a way thx |
| 17:44.27 | SnuS | Anthro how would I do that ? |
| 17:44.36 | Anthro | SnuS: Check the man page. |
| 17:44.39 | tuv | what is the best way to install gforge? debian packages give: could not connect to db! |
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| 17:45.22 | MaestroTechie | !udev |
| 17:45.23 | dpkg | well, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
| 17:45.44 | Neverth | m24, how about asking a friend to do that? |
| 17:45.49 | goccia | m24: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en |
| 17:45.54 | Neverth | hehe |
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| 17:46.10 | m24 | thx guys |
| 17:46.15 | tnks | crazy. . . |
| 17:46.21 | tnks | got it fixed. |
| 17:46.50 | tnks | (went into the grub shell and typed "root (hd0,4)" and "setup (hd0)". . . |
| 17:46.55 | Roxport | why won't the debian installer consistently detect and mount my cd-rom drive? sometimes it does, sometimes not |
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| 17:47.15 | SnuS | Anthro I can't find what you are talking about in the man page. I don't think the "-stderr*" will be of any use. |
| 17:47.26 | Jxpx | anyone know when willl the cedega5.0 will come? |
| 17:47.33 | MaestroTechie | !md |
| 17:47.33 | dpkg | [md] software raid in Linux. Moldova. Medical Doctor |
| 17:47.34 | cddesjar | do you guys know if there is any software that can communicate with iChat via video? |
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| 17:47.49 | valdyn | Jxpx: http://www.transgaming.com/ |
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| 17:48.06 | Jxpx | thanks |
| 17:48.27 | cddesjar | does anyone run an antivirus program? if you, do you use clamav? |
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| 17:49.13 | Maulkin | yes, yes |
| 17:49.18 | Jhair | cddesjar: do you administrate a mail server and want to check if emails contain virus dangerous for windows? |
| 17:49.21 | Roxport | does anyone know if netinst version of sarge is OK? |
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| 17:49.35 | Ronin | Roxport: why wouldn't it be? |
| 17:49.39 | cddesjar | Jhair: no i am just concerned about protecting my personal desktop |
| 17:49.52 | Roxport | i'm having difficulties getting any kind of debian installed on an empty computer. |
| 17:49.53 | Anthro | !administrate |
| 17:49.53 | dpkg | administrate is, like, not a word. You're looking for "administer". |
| 17:50.06 | Jhair | cddesjar: if you run debian, why do you need an antivirus then? |
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| 17:50.07 | Roxport | no OS i mean |
| 17:50.21 | Neverth | Roxport, it is |
| 17:50.25 | Roxport | kernel panic, attempted to kill...etc. |
| 17:50.32 | Roxport | seg faults. |
| 17:50.34 | cddesjar | Jhair: well there are still viruses for linux right? even though we're a minority OS people still write viruses for linux correct? |
| 17:50.42 | Neverth | did you recompile your own kernel? |
| 17:50.57 | Roxport | if i unplug computer for a week, then try again, it gets as far as partitioning, then freezes up. disks are good, have been swapped, etc. |
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| 17:51.30 | Neverth | ... |
| 17:51.32 | Maulkin | Roxport: hmm... sounds like a hardware problem. |
| 17:51.42 | Maulkin | Roxport: What rating powersupply is in there? |
| 17:51.53 | Jhair | cddesjar: the treat is so low, it can be ignored. Otherwise Debian would ship a "linux antivirus" to be installed per default. The same applies to personal firewalls and similar crap |
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| 17:52.06 | Roxport | it has been running win98se for a long time, plus red hat 5.x dual boot. then formatted hard drives to install just debian. |
| 17:52.16 | dorto | is there a simple way to select multiple packages with apt-get install? i want to install packages that start with zope-xxxx and there are a lot of them |
| 17:52.22 | Roxport | swapped memory, hard drive, and processor. (p2 233 and 333) |
| 17:52.28 | cddesjar | do you run chkrootkit? |
| 17:52.45 | Maulkin | cddesjar: yes, on my servers |
| 17:52.58 | cddesjar | Maulkin: not on your pc? |
| 17:53.02 | Maulkin | cddesjar: nothing on my desktops |
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| 17:53.04 | cddesjar | ok |
| 17:53.17 | Roxport | power suply... 250W |
| 17:53.17 | Anthro | SnuS: Hmph. I must have been thinking of something else. Sorry. |
| 17:53.32 | Roxport | 1996 power supply |
| 17:53.36 | SnuS | err. wtf. |
| 17:53.43 | Maulkin | Roxport: should probably be enough. What do the kernel panics say? |
| 17:53.51 | SnuS | it's now working. I haven't changed a thing in the past 20 minutes. |
| 17:53.58 | cddesjar | !R |
| 17:53.59 | dpkg | methinks r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
| 17:54.00 | RolandU | hi all! I have problems with installing java-sdk.... |
| 17:54.01 | Roxport | they give EIP nbrs and flags |
| 17:54.11 | Roxport | lots of text |
| 17:54.14 | Roxport | call trace |
| 17:54.19 | Roxport | code (hex) |
| 17:54.29 | Roxport | *pde = 000000000 |
| 17:54.30 | cddesjar | R rules! |
| 17:54.36 | Anthro | !topicsmite RolandU |
| 17:54.40 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon RolandU. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 17:54.42 | Roxport | unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00005c |
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| 17:55.03 | Roxport | trying to set up filesystem, it looks like. |
| 17:55.17 | Roxport | thsi happens after a failed attempt at installing |
| 17:55.24 | RolandU | Anthro, I know that this is not #java, but I am trying to find out which debian-package is the correct one to use |
| 17:55.28 | Roxport | installation gets as far as partitioning |
| 17:56.00 | Roxport | then freeze, then reboot, then won't get to blue install screen, just freeze at beginning with black/white screen saying those things mentioned earlier like seg fault |
| 17:56.01 | Roxport | etc |
| 17:56.02 | Neverth | i got kernel panic only whithout initrd images |
| 17:56.06 | Anthro | RolandU: See, you *still* haven't read the topic. |
| 17:56.10 | cddesjar | GIS is fun too |
| 17:56.10 | Anthro | !tell RolandU about java |
| 17:56.16 | mtnman | !tell rolandu about install java |
| 17:56.27 | Roxport | "Kernel panic: attempted to kill init!" |
| 17:56.30 | amDaCommIE | are u guys talkin about linux installation? |
| 17:56.34 | amDaCommIE | cuz i have a problem 2 |
| 17:56.39 | Roxport | yes, amdacommie, we are |
| 17:56.51 | cddesjar | how can i tell dpkg about QGIS? |
| 17:56.51 | Roxport | is your setup a dual-boot, or standalone? |
| 17:57.07 | Maulkin | !netspeak |
| 17:57.07 | dpkg | See http://usrbinw00t.keenspace.com/comics/20021217.gif |
| 17:57.21 | dorto | someone please see this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/I8DNv591.html |
| 17:57.25 | Maulkin | !netspeak amDaCommIE |
| 17:57.27 | thc | <Maulkin> !netspeak |
| 17:57.27 | thc | <dpkg> See http://usrbinw00t.keenspace.com/comics/20021217.gif |
| 17:57.27 | thc | <dorto> someone please see this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/I8DNv591.html |
| 17:57.27 | thc | <Maulkin> !netspeak amDaCommIE |
| 17:57.27 | dorto | i want to install all those packages |
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| 17:57.28 | RolandU | okay, that's all I need to know |
| 17:57.30 | amDaCommIE | im trying to install fedore 2 and have it dual boot with xp pro |
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| 17:57.49 | dorto | do i have to type all the package names with apt-get? |
| 17:57.56 | amDaCommIE | but after install fedore i cant get to the boot screen :S |
| 17:58.01 | valdyn | dorto: you could use cut & paste |
| 17:58.05 | Maulkin | amDaCommIE: try #fedora |
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| 17:58.11 | Maulkin | amDaCommIE: This is Debian, not Fedora |
| 17:58.12 | amDaCommIE | k thankx |
| 17:58.12 | thc | fucking hell, sorry |
| 17:58.14 | thc | damn mouse |
| 17:58.27 | dorto | valdyn: ok |
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| 17:58.42 | dorto | i did not think of it |
| 17:58.50 | Neverth | dorto, apt-get install package-blah* ? |
| 17:58.51 | Maulkin | Roxport: Was this the AMD64 install? |
| 17:59.04 | valdyn | dorto: line by line though, a newline pasted wont do any good |
| 17:59.06 | dorto | Neverth: we can use wild cards? |
| 17:59.16 | dorto | with apt-get? |
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| 17:59.26 | valdyn | dorto: apt-get install "zope*" |
| 17:59.31 | Neverth | thats why the "?" is there |
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| 17:59.39 | dorto | ok |
| 17:59.41 | Neverth | it should work |
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| 17:59.50 | dorto | if in doubt i am not going to use it! ;) |
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| 18:00.06 | dorto | it will ask for the confirmation most of the times |
| 18:00.12 | Neverth | good it installs all with that beginning |
| 18:00.27 | dorto | but sometimes it just goes ahead and i did not want to risk trying it myself |
| 18:00.49 | Neverth | just beat ctrl+c if you want to stop it |
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| 18:00.59 | dorto | yes |
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| 18:01.18 | dorto | uninstallation also is very easy in debian |
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| 18:01.52 | dorto | debian would be a good choice for hosting websites, isn't it? |
| 18:01.55 | Neverth | yep, i usually make programs to .deb so it would be easier to remove |
| 18:02.12 | dorto | i will learn how to create .deb one day |
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| 18:02.28 | Neverth | dh_make |
| 18:02.50 | Neverth | the easiest way |
| 18:02.56 | netsurf3 | hey just installed debian from floppy getting this error when trying to start X "X: cannot stat /ect/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. |
| 18:02.59 | Neverth | (for me) |
| 18:03.01 | dorto | k |
| 18:03.21 | Neverth | netsurf3, got xserver installed? |
| 18:03.22 | thc | netsurf3: install X |
| 18:03.31 | Puiu | I just installed debian on my laptop...and I used a knoppix live cd...to make sure my hardware was compatible with linux first...everything worked great...the wireless was auto-recognized and setup with dhcp...and I was able to browse the web right out of the box with knoppix....I'm using KDE with my debian system...and I have "wireless-tools" installed...but the wireless doesn't seem to work. |
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| 18:03.37 | Puiu | Anyone have any suggestions that can help me? |
| 18:03.41 | netsurf3 | Neverth though it would put it in auto |
| 18:03.45 | netsurf3 | will check |
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| 18:04.40 | cddesjar | yay daylight savings time! |
| 18:04.41 | dorto | Puiu: not that i can help you, but tell what brand/chipset your wireless card is? |
| 18:04.43 | Neverth | Puiu, got the kernel module for card? |
| 18:05.04 | Puiu | dorto: It's an atheros super g wireless card. |
| 18:05.07 | cddesjar | Puiu: is your wireless activated? |
| 18:05.09 | Puiu | I'm not sure of the model number. |
| 18:05.16 | cddesjar | Puiu: i sometimes have to activate it |
| 18:05.18 | Puiu | I typed "cardctl info" as root..and it didn't give me any info. |
| 18:05.27 | Puiu | cddesjar, How can I tell? |
| 18:05.31 | cddesjar | Puiu: ifconfig eth0 (or eth1) |
| 18:05.37 | cddesjar | what's your output for that |
| 18:05.38 | dorto | Puiu: you can try "cardctl ident" |
| 18:05.57 | Puiu | "no product available" |
| 18:05.57 | cddesjar | paste it on pastebin and link it here |
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| 18:06.07 | valdyn | Puiu: uname -r |
| 18:06.09 | netsurf3 | ??? "xserver is a virtual package provided by xserver-xfree86-dbg, xserver-xfree86, vncserver, tightvncserver" |
| 18:06.10 | Puiu | But the wireless is onboard with the mobo...and it worked fine with knoppix. |
| 18:06.50 | Puiu | 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 18:06.50 | cddesjar | Puiu: do you have gnome installed as well? |
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| 18:06.50 | Puiu | cddesjar, yes |
| 18:06.50 | resiak | !tell netsurf3 -about install x |
| 18:06.50 | baegle | when I install the libapache2-mod-php5 package through apt, it wants to remove php4 and the apache2 for php4. Isn't there a way to keep both? |
| 18:06.51 | thc | netsurf3: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 18:06.51 | Neverth | netsurf3, xserver-xfree86 <-- that |
| 18:06.51 | resiak | baegle: No. |
| 18:06.51 | cddesjar | go to terminal and type network-admin |
| 18:06.51 | cddesjar | and just make sure your wireless is activate if it's recognized |
| 18:06.54 | valdyn | Puiu: ifconfig -a |
| 18:06.55 | cddesjar | if not activate it |
| 18:07.01 | valdyn | Puiu: is it listed? |
| 18:07.03 | baegle | but I can have the php4 and the php5 interpreter running at the same time? |
| 18:07.12 | cddesjar | valdyn: does the -a activate the wireless card? |
| 18:07.17 | Roxport1 | is it possible to install bare minimum debian on 128 M of RAM? and not use hard drive? |
| 18:07.25 | dorto | how can one add arbitrary command to the gnome menu, like emacs? |
| 18:07.26 | baegle | I can't have Apache direct .php to php4 and .php5 to php5 modules? |
| 18:07.29 | valdyn | cddesjar: includes interfaces which are down |
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| 18:07.37 | cddesjar | oh |
| 18:07.49 | Puiu | valdyn, http://pastebin.com/410149 |
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| 18:07.55 | Roxport1 | better yet, how can i totally format my two small hard drives without any OS? |
| 18:08.05 | Neverth | Roxport1, ive installed it on 800Mb, 32Mb ram and 133Mhz |
| 18:08.16 | Puiu | valdyn, I'm not sure. |
| 18:08.19 | Puiu | Is sit0 the device? |
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| 18:08.29 | Roxport1 | Neverth, cool |
| 18:08.33 | Neverth | but without disk...lol |
| 18:08.41 | netsurf3 | why didn't X install automagical? |
| 18:08.41 | valdyn | Puiu: eth0 is your wired ethernet? |
| 18:08.45 | Puiu | yes |
| 18:08.51 | Puiu | I'm on eth0 right now talking to you. |
| 18:08.56 | Puiu | But I can't get eth1 to work. |
| 18:08.59 | cddesjar | hmm...what the hell is sit0? |
| 18:09.04 | valdyn | Puiu: im not sure which driver is for your wireless card |
| 18:09.05 | thc | netsurf3: because you didn't select it. not everyone wants X. |
| 18:09.09 | Neverth | netsurf3, debian gives you the base |
| 18:09.20 | Puiu | valdyn, knoppix worked right out of the box with this laptop/wireless card. |
| 18:09.20 | Roxport1 | how to get someones name to appear before a comment here, like: "Roxport: blah blah you're crazy" etc? |
| 18:09.21 | Miesco | Where in my /etc/init.d is there a file where I can put my own stuff in? |
| 18:09.37 | valdyn | Puiu: sure i know, that doesnt tell me which driver knoppix is using |
| 18:09.37 | mtnman | roxport1: for info on installation, see /topic. as far as formatting drives, you could boot with a boot disk[ette] and format the drives. |
| 18:09.45 | netsurf3 | Neverth i asked it to install fluxbox |
| 18:09.50 | Puiu | Should I load knoppix and lsmod? |
| 18:09.56 | Roxport1 | ok |
| 18:09.58 | valdyn | Puiu: yea |
| 18:09.59 | netsurf3 | and then it went to install gnome |
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| 18:10.04 | Puiu | k, be back in 10 minutes |
| 18:10.06 | Puiu | thanks for the help valdyn |
| 18:10.15 | mtnman | miesco: you can put your own script in /etc/init.d. man update-rc.d has info, iirc. |
| 18:10.15 | Neverth | fluxbox should have x on depencies |
| 18:10.22 | Neverth | lol |
| 18:10.27 | netsurf3 | then what the hell? |
| 18:10.39 | Neverth | i told it to install openbox, and it ionstalled openbox |
| 18:10.41 | netsurf3 | gnome installed itself aswell |
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| 18:10.56 | netsurf3 | ioninstalled? |
| 18:11.09 | azeem | installed, obviously |
| 18:11.09 | Neverth | installed (typos) |
| 18:11.17 | netsurf3 | ohh |
| 18:11.18 | netsurf3 | sorry |
| 18:11.24 | Roxport1 | see topic? |
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| 18:11.29 | Roxport1 | of this channel? |
| 18:11.32 | netsurf3 | could have been uninstall |
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| 18:11.34 | Roxport1 | how to print topic of channel? |
| 18:11.44 | Neverth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.45 | Maulkin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:12.11 | nuk3r | qualcuno italiano? |
| 18:12.16 | Roxport1 | you mean |
| 18:12.19 | Neverth | its not good idea to hit F3 on this channel with bitchx btw |
| 18:12.22 | azeem | !it |
| 18:12.23 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 18:12.25 | Roxport1 | '/topic |
| 18:12.32 | Roxport1 | with channel name after it. OH! :) |
| 18:12.35 | nuk3r | txn |
| 18:12.38 | mtnman | netsurf3: if you look at the dependencies for openbox, it only depends on the libs. |
| 18:12.56 | mtnman | buon giorno nuk3r |
| 18:13.06 | Neverth | and where do the libs depend... |
| 18:13.11 | Neverth | trace boy trace |
| 18:13.17 | azeem | Neverth: hmm? |
| 18:13.24 | azeem | Neverth: maybe you selected the desktop task |
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| 18:13.39 | Neverth | it wouln't fit on 800 mb disk |
| 18:13.40 | Roxport1 | those install guides are great and all, but nothing to walk me through problems encountered while installing. |
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| 18:14.02 | azeem | Roxport1: for problems, ask here |
| 18:14.03 | bob_ | Hi - I am Wibble-, but I got disconnected. Did anyone see and reply to my question? |
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| 18:14.22 | Roxport1 | i'm about ready to say 'cock it' and throw the old pc out window and get new linux system. |
| 18:14.24 | mtnman | roxport1: the best thing to do is acutally read the instructions, and give it a try. when you get stuck ask a question. no one here really wants to walk you through installation. |
| 18:14.26 | azeem | bob_: no |
| 18:14.28 | cddesjar | debian is awesome!!! |
| 18:14.31 | matthias_ | Hi, has anyone installed Debian on a Thinkpad R52 yet? |
| 18:14.36 | Roxport1 | i know i know |
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| 18:14.43 | azeem | matthias_: check tuxmobile.org |
| 18:14.50 | azeem | matthias_: shouldn't pose much problems, I'd say |
| 18:14.57 | matthias_ | I'm trying to do so but the debian installer does not find the cdrom and I wonder which module to load. |
| 18:15.03 | azeem | hum |
| 18:15.06 | matthias_ | azeem: thanks |
| 18:15.19 | azeem | matthias_: did you run linux26? |
| 18:15.22 | mtnman | matthias_: what type of drive? |
| 18:15.25 | Neverth | standard cdroms should work without problems |
| 18:15.27 | azeem | or just pressed enter at the boot prompt? |
| 18:15.28 | Roxport1 | matthias_: i have same problem .good luck |
| 18:15.36 | Roxport1 | nope sometimes they don't work without problems |
| 18:15.46 | mtnman | if your cd is not visible, you may need to change some bios setting |
| 18:15.54 | matthias_ | mtnman: multidrive, cdrw and dvd-rw |
| 18:15.59 | matthias_ | hitachi I think |
| 18:16.01 | bob_ | I recently installed debian over PPP (rather than eth like I usually do), and I've ended up with a system without a loopback device and without an eth0 configured. I can set them up with network-admin, but they don't persist when I reboot (and not having a loopback is quite troublesome!) What else can I do to fix it? |
| 18:16.02 | mtnman | matthias_: ide? |
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| 18:16.11 | matthias_ | mtnman: sata I suppose |
| 18:16.31 | Roxport1 | mines' visible to the installer one day, and invisible the next minute after a reboot from an install freeze-up |
| 18:16.38 | mtnman | bob_: you should edit /etc/network/interfaces. man interfaces for details. |
| 18:16.49 | matthias_ | or PATA |
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| 18:17.01 | mtnman | matthias_: what is the exact problem? cannot boot from cd? |
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| 18:17.27 | mtnman | roxport1: cold or warm boot? |
| 18:17.47 | Ander | Ola Alguem quer tc comigo? |
| 18:17.55 | Ander | Hello!!!! |
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| 18:18.22 | azeem | !br |
| 18:18.23 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:18.24 | Roxport1 | both |
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| 18:18.36 | matthias_ | mtnman: no, it boots from cd but then the installer cannot find an appropriate kernel module |
| 18:19.20 | mtnman | matthias_: do you know if your drive works with the standard ide-cd module or if it needs a special one? |
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| 18:20.20 | matthias_ | mtnman: no, I dont know. |
| 18:20.35 | matthias_ | mtnman: 1 minute |
| 18:20.37 | azeem | matthias_: did you try typing linux26 at the boot prompt? |
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| 18:21.12 | sigma957 | matthias_: you may need to try to install as expert, it gives you more options for module parameters and so on |
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| 18:21.23 | netsurf3 | DAMN |
| 18:21.28 | matthias_ | azeem: I'll try now. But I'm sure that's kernel 2.6 right now. |
| 18:21.44 | azeem | matthias_: ok then. By default, 2.4 gets used on i386 |
| 18:21.58 | Neverth | yep, 2.6. kernels handle a lot of things better and sometimes worse like mouse |
| 18:22.43 | Roxport1 | one time after installer couldn't mount cdrom, it asked me for parameters: |
| 18:22.52 | Roxport1 | irq= I/O= |
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| 18:22.57 | Roxport1 | but didn't know what to put |
| 18:23.22 | matthias_ | well I don't really know which module to use (the laptop has just arrived ;) |
| 18:23.27 | Neverth | irq is easy to give |
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| 18:23.38 | BanXoo | hey, does anyone know how to emulate 32bit softwares on x86_64 debian? |
| 18:23.47 | mtnman | matthias_: check the hardware howto at tldp.org |
| 18:23.47 | Tarantulafudge | is it possible to setup virtual mysqls? |
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| 18:23.50 | Roxport1 | i have an old CD-drom device driver (non-linux). i wonder if that would help, when installer says, "do you want to load cdrom stuff from floppy drive?" |
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| 18:24.06 | prjktdtnt | How do I clear out my buffer and swap? |
| 18:24.09 | Tarantulafudge | hmm? |
| 18:24.09 | Neverth | by making a lib32 |
| 18:24.09 | mtnman | roxport1: which kernel? |
| 18:24.16 | jeffrin | iam getting drive seek error |
| 18:24.22 | Neverth | somewhere @debian is guide to that |
| 18:24.25 | Maulkin | Tarantulafudge: What do you mean? |
| 18:24.26 | Roxport1 | sarge, with install26 command to install |
| 18:24.48 | mtnman | roxport1: well, you could try installing 2.4 instead... it is a more mature kernel. |
| 18:24.53 | Tarantulafudge | maulkin, seting up a hosting co, but I need to somehow make virtual mysqls so peoples domains arent limited |
| 18:25.07 | Tarantulafudge | maulkin, db names* |
| 18:25.19 | Tarantulafudge | Maulkin: meh |
| 18:25.23 | matthias_ | mtnman: otherwise I could use floppies, too |
| 18:25.25 | mtnman | there is #mysql |
| 18:25.34 | Roxport1 | mtnman, ok. i will look for that at debian site |
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| 18:25.42 | matthias_ | mtnman: knoppix worked just fine.. maybe I should check which module it uses. |
| 18:25.56 | Maulkin | It's possible to run more than one instance of mysql using either differnet ports, or different sockets |
| 18:26.00 | mtnman | roxport1: that howto is at tldp.org, as i said. not at debian.org |
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| 18:26.04 | prjktdtnt | Is there a command to free up your ram (clean and reload needed processes)? |
| 18:26.11 | mtnman | maulkin: ask on #mysql |
| 18:26.13 | Maulkin | I woudn't suggest it though. |
| 18:26.26 | azeem | matthias_: http://news.tiker.net/hardware/r52 might help (though not for this problem, perhaps) |
| 18:26.34 | Maulkin | Tarantulafudge: As other's have suggested, #mysql is prolly best to ask |
| 18:26.39 | Roxport1 | i only see on debian.org to install latest stable release. |
| 18:26.40 | Maulkin | s/'// |
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| 18:27.08 | BanXoo | can anyone help to emulate 32bit on 64bit debian? |
| 18:27.09 | azeem | BanXoo: one uses a i386 chroot and runs 32bit programs in there, AFAIK |
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| 18:27.16 | sigma957 | prjktdtnt: reboot? but why do you want to do this anyway? |
| 18:27.31 | mtnman | roxport1: that howto is at tldp.org, as i said. not debian.org |
| 18:27.38 | azeem | BanXoo: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id271960 |
| 18:27.53 | BanXoo | azeem:do u have a site or so that explains that? |
| 18:27.59 | Roxport1 | ok sorry, mtnman |
| 18:28.03 | prjktdtnt | sigma957: I dont have enough ram in my comp and so every time I run qemu I run out of ram and need to clear it...i hate rebooting though :( |
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| 18:28.08 | Roxport1 | (watching two computer screens) |
| 18:28.24 | ramenboy | just out of curiosity: does anyone know of an application-level, personal firewall for Linux? something like ZoneAlarm, where it would pop up a window saying "application X is trying to connect to 1.2.3.4:80, accept or deny?" |
| 18:28.27 | prjktdtnt | sigma957: i'm getting a new job soon so I can finally upgrade that and stop worrying |
| 18:28.28 | OctoberDan | Does Debian have better/worse support for clustering then any other distrib? |
| 18:28.35 | netsurf3 | gerrr |
| 18:28.40 | OctoberDan | Or is it the same for all linux? |
| 18:28.43 | netsurf3 | x still wont start |
| 18:28.54 | matthias_ | mtnman: booting with kernel 2.4 helps ;) |
| 18:28.55 | sigma957 | prjktdtnt: sounds like qemu is badly written as far as memory usage. you've done a ps and killed all the qemu processes? |
| 18:29.09 | mtnman | matthias_: glad to hear. |
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| 18:29.33 | prjktdtnt | sigma957: its cause I use QEMU to run XP over Linux |
| 18:29.43 | mtnman | netsurf3: have you installed x-window-system[core] |
| 18:29.45 | mtnman | ? |
| 18:29.51 | Neverth | ramenboy, firestarter is closest you can get with apt-get |
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| 18:29.57 | netsurf3 | mtnman yes |
| 18:30.04 | matthias_ | mtnman: I wonder what the difference is.. |
| 18:30.16 | ramenboy | Neverth, thanks, I'll take a look |
| 18:30.18 | mtnman | netsurf3: then you should share more info that "x won't start" |
| 18:30.26 | mtnman | s/that/than/ |
| 18:30.45 | mtnman | matthias_: different modules, most likely. |
| 18:30.58 | netsurf3 | mtnman looking for it |
| 18:31.07 | netsurf3 | mtnman long error |
| 18:31.08 | OctoberDan | Anyone here ever set up a linux cluster? |
| 18:31.15 | OctoberDan | Or have an experiences or tips....? |
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| 18:31.29 | cddesjar | OctoberDan: i am sure someone has |
| 18:31.33 | mtnman | netsurf3: how exactly are you trying to start X? |
| 18:31.51 | netsurf3 | startx and via gnome |
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| 18:32.06 | mtnman | octoberdan: many people have installed linux clusters. if you do a web search, i'm sure you will find some howtos. |
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| 18:32.23 | prjktdtnt | sigma957: thanks for the help |
| 18:32.24 | mtnman | netsurf3: what happens when you startx? |
| 18:32.40 | netsurf3 | mtnman (EE) xf860penSerial: cannot open input device |
| 18:32.52 | Neverth | mouse? |
| 18:33.05 | thc | netsurf3: reconfigure X, /msg dpkg drx |
| 18:33.06 | matthias_ | mtnman: ok. I'll install with 2.4 and upgrade later |
| 18:33.07 | netsurf3 | mtnman (EE) Configured Mouse cannot open input device |
| 18:33.13 | mtnman | netsurf3: i suggest you rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and don't guess on the answers to the questions it gives you. |
| 18:33.23 | netsurf3 | ok |
| 18:33.33 | mtnman | matthias_: cool. you can always upgrade to 2.6 later... |
| 18:33.37 | netsurf3 | what does laptop touch pads normaly use? |
| 18:33.45 | thc | netsurf3: /dev/psaux |
| 18:33.45 | mtnman | psaux |
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| 18:33.49 | LocoSway | anyone know why wget doesn't grab everything in the dir's under / if im using the recursive option? |
| 18:33.50 | netsurf3 | AHHH |
| 18:33.55 | netsurf3 | thats whats wrong |
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| 18:34.05 | OctoberDan | Alright... I'll take a look... I was just hoping that some one here would have a few words to say before I started. There is often alot of contridicting material on the web. |
| 18:34.50 | Neverth | 50 minst to etch, yay |
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| 18:34.53 | Neverth | mins |
| 18:35.03 | Turicas | hello...i want a text mode browser to netinstaller to authenticate in my provider! suggestions? |
| 18:35.04 | mtnman | octoberdan: what seems contradictory may be just another way to do it. |
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| 18:35.23 | misieq | how passwords in /etc/shadow are encrypted? |
| 18:35.30 | Neverth | links2 |
| 18:35.35 | mtnman | turicas: i don't understand what you want it for, but w3m is a good text browser |
| 18:35.52 | mtnman | misieq: man shadow |
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| 18:36.42 | Roxport1 | <tldp.org guides need link updating> |
| 18:36.51 | Puiu | valdyn, I went into knoppix...and when I typed "lsmod" next to wlan was these two... "ath_pci,ath_rate_onoe" |
| 18:36.56 | Turicas | mtnman, net isntaller doesn't have it! :/ |
| 18:37.06 | Puiu | Wireless works perfect in knoppix...but it doesn't work in debian. |
| 18:37.11 | Turicas | i think that net installer doesn't have any browser |
| 18:37.15 | Puiu | I tried to modprobe ath_pci in debian...there is no such module though. |
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| 18:37.20 | ram_einstein | what exactly does grub-install /dev/fd0 do? what is the meaning of installing grub on a floppy? where is it- boot sector? what is the floppy's filesystem now? and finally where's the corresponding grub.conf- on the floppy? |
| 18:37.23 | radical_ | hi, anyone of you has a working s-ata (plextor) dvd recorder? |
| 18:37.25 | Neverth | Turicas, lynx? |
| 18:37.29 | mtnman | puiu: what card? |
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| 18:37.38 | Puiu | mtnman, It's an atheros super g |
| 18:37.42 | Puiu | onboard on the mobo |
| 18:37.43 | mtnman | turicas: you are probably correct. |
| 18:37.46 | Turicas | Neverth, no..it isnt in netinstaller |
| 18:37.48 | Neverth | well netinstaller has about nothing |
| 18:38.04 | azeem | Turicas: what is netinstaller? |
| 18:38.12 | Neverth | netinstall cd |
| 18:38.18 | mtnman | puiu: not familiar with that card. check tldp.org and look at the hardware howto to look up which module you need for that card. |
| 18:38.19 | Neverth | i used it too |
| 18:38.28 | Roxport1 | a version of debian that installs most modules via network connection |
| 18:38.29 | Turicas | azeem, tool to install debian via net |
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| 18:39.05 | ram_einstein | I need to configure my grub on /dev/hda to start debian, can't keep putting in that floppy |
| 18:39.13 | OctoberDan | Is there any one here still running woody? |
| 18:39.22 | Puiu | mtnman, I have the module from lsmod...when I was in knoppix 5 minutes ago. |
| 18:39.28 | Puiu | The wireless works fine in knoppix. |
| 18:39.38 | Puiu | I went into knoppix...and when I typed "lsmod" next to wlan was these two... "ath_pci,ath_rate_onoe" |
| 18:39.44 | Puiu | Wireless works perfect in knoppix...but it doesn't work in debian. |
| 18:39.48 | mtnman | octoberdan: well, if anyone is still running woody, they would not be someone to ask for help, most likely. |
| 18:39.48 | Puiu | I tried to modprobe ath_pci in debian...there is no such module though. |
| 18:39.51 | Neverth | "damn aureal. WORKKK!!!11" |
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| 18:40.14 | mtnman | puiu: i don't know which kernel the version of knoppix you are booting uses. |
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| 18:40.43 | mtnman | puiu: if you run modconf, you may find the answer, but i suggest looking in the hardware howto. |
| 18:40.45 | Puiu | 4.0.2 is the knoppix I was using. |
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| 18:41.11 | mtnman | puiu: the version of knoppix means nothing to me. what _kernel_ version? |
| 18:41.41 | FliesLikeABrick | what would the command be to remove the following line from my kernel routing table: |
| 18:41.42 | FliesLikeABrick | 69.121.96.0 * 255.255.240.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
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| 18:41.48 | OctoberDan | mtnman: haha, just wondering |
| 18:41.49 | Mi | hello |
| 18:42.00 | Neverth | btw, anyone has idea howto change bg pic in framebuffer console? |
| 18:42.25 | Mi | i'm looking for debian chanel in polish do you know it ?? |
| 18:42.33 | pabs3 | !pl |
| 18:42.33 | dpkg | i guess pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 18:42.34 | netsurf3 | hey getting errors with "XKB" and XFree 4.3.0 |
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| 18:42.38 | netsurf3 | any ideas |
| 18:42.46 | netsurf3 | i got X up at leasr |
| 18:42.49 | netsurf3 | *least |
| 18:42.50 | mtnman | flieslikeabrick: route del 69.121.96.0, perhaps |
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| 18:43.06 | FliesLikeABrick | SIOCDELRT: No such process |
| 18:43.07 | Mi | ok |
| 18:43.10 | FliesLikeABrick | mtnman ^ |
| 18:43.30 | Puiu | mtnman, 2.6 something |
| 18:43.34 | mtnman | netsurf3:telling us you have an error is no help unless we know what the message is. |
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| 18:43.53 | mtnman | filieslikeabrick: well, perhaps man route will enlighten you. |
| 18:43.57 | Mi | #debian.pl is empty :-( |
| 18:44.15 | Coutal | does anybody know where the microwindows package went? i've seen a notice of package completion dated a few years ago, but now it's not in the distribution |
| 18:44.16 | netsurf3 | mtnman sorry about that |
| 18:44.29 | Puiu | mtnman, ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/packages.txt |
| 18:44.35 | mtnman | netsurf3: no need to apologize. |
| 18:44.38 | Mi | who is from poland ?? |
| 18:44.45 | Mi | or know polish ? |
| 18:44.59 | Puiu | mtnman, ii kernel-image-2.6.12 10.00.Custom Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.12. |
| 18:45.06 | Puiu | That is the kernel version for knoppix 4.0.2 |
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| 18:45.18 | Puiu | debian:~# uname -r |
| 18:45.18 | Puiu | 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 18:45.25 | mtnman | puiu: and what kernel are you installing on the debian system? |
| 18:45.27 | Puiu | mtnman, And that is my kernel version for my debian system. |
| 18:45.30 | Neverth | and i guess that kernel had all modules compiled.... |
| 18:45.54 | mtnman | puiu: which installation media are you using? |
| 18:46.04 | Puiu | mtnman, What do you mean? |
| 18:46.16 | mtnman | puiu: how are you installing debian? |
| 18:46.38 | mtnman | puiu: or is your system already installed? |
| 18:47.11 | Puiu | It's already installed. |
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| 18:47.19 | Puiu | But I'm on eth0 now(cat5) |
| 18:47.28 | Puiu | I can't get eth1 to work. |
| 18:47.30 | mtnman | puiu: and have you looked at the hardware howto at tldp.org to check which module you need for your card? (as i suggested earlier) |
| 18:47.37 | Puiu | yes |
| 18:47.40 | Puiu | I don't see my card listed. |
| 18:47.47 | mtnman | puiu: if you do ifconfig -a, does eth1 show up? |
| 18:48.14 | Puiu | mtnman, no |
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| 18:48.34 | Puiu | mtnman, It showed up when I was in knoppix...not in debian now though. |
| 18:48.51 | mtnman | puiu: does the computer make the "good sound" when you insert the card in the slot? |
| 18:49.21 | netsurf3 | mtnman xscreensave is one but probably because it is not installed i dont think |
| 18:49.21 | Puiu | It's onboard wireless...on the mobo |
| 18:49.29 | Puiu | I have no cards. |
| 18:49.37 | mtnman | netsurf3: is one what? |
| 18:49.41 | Coutal | maybe it's not included because of licensing issues. what card is that? |
| 18:49.44 | netsurf3 | mtnman error |
| 18:50.07 | netsurf3 | mtnman "show desktop" applet crashing is another |
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| 18:50.19 | mtnman | netsurf3: "xscreensave" is an app, not an error message. |
| 18:50.42 | mtnman | netsurf3: no one will be able to help you w/o a relevant error msg. |
| 18:50.55 | Neverth | is it asus mb? |
| 18:50.56 | Puiu | mtnman, If I downloaded the knoppix module would that work? |
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| 18:51.07 | mtnman | puiu: what chipset? what did the hardware howto say about your chipset? |
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| 18:51.16 | mtnman | puiu: not likely. |
| 18:51.24 | Puiu | mtnman, The hardware howto didn't have my wireless card. |
| 18:51.30 | mtnman | puiu: do you have pcmcia-modules installed? |
| 18:52.13 | mtnman | puiu: have you tried doing a web search to find out the module you need for your card? |
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| 18:52.30 | mtnman | puiu: there is also a linux laptops site somewehere which may tell you the module you need. |
| 18:52.34 | mjk64 | How can I limit aptitude's display to console games? I have found no direct search pattern for this ... |
| 18:52.50 | Puiu | mtnman, I don't know if I have that installed. |
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| 18:53.03 | Coutal | Puiu: can you paste the relevant line from the output of lspci? (and just that, to avoid dumping a lot of text to the channel) |
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| 18:53.14 | Puiu | debian:~# dpkg -al|grep -i pcmcia |
| 18:53.14 | Puiu | ii pcmcia-cs 3.2.8-5.2 PCMCIA Card Services for Linux |
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| 18:53.55 | Puiu | Coutal, 0000:02:04.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) |
| 18:53.57 | netsurf3 | mtnman "Error activating XKB configuration. probably a internalt X server problem. X server version data: The XFree86 Project, inc 40300001 You are using Xfree 4.3.0. there are known problems with complex XKB configurations. Try using simpler configuration or new version of the XFree software" |
| 18:53.59 | timo | ls |
| 18:54.19 | mtnman | puiu: do apt-cache search pcmcia-modules and find the one that matches your kernel version |
| 18:54.22 | beoba | it actually said "a interalt"? |
| 18:55.08 | mtnman | netsurf3: not sure, but sounds like misconfiguration. rerun xserver-xfree86 and DON'T GUESS at the answers |
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| 18:55.20 | netsurf3 | mtnman ok |
| 18:55.39 | Puiu | mtnman, That only shows 2.4 kernel modules |
| 18:55.42 | mtnman | netsurf3: *dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, that is... |
| 18:55.46 | Puiu | No 2.6 ones are listed. |
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| 18:57.09 | Mi | hello |
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| 18:57.24 | Mi | i have a problem |
| 18:57.24 | Neverth | netsurf3, xf86config is also good choice to configure xfree86 (is that the right command?) |
| 18:57.42 | Mi | i was configured , compiled and installed |
| 18:57.43 | mtnman | puiu: well, i don't know much about 2.6 modules, i only run 2.4 over here. |
| 18:57.50 | Coutal | does anybody know how can i track the release history of a package? i'm looking for the microwindows package and it's not there. |
| 18:57.56 | Mi | new kernel ver 2.6.14 |
| 18:58.00 | mtnman | coutal: packages.debian.org |
| 18:58.07 | azeem | Coutal: packages.qa.debian.org/<package> |
| 18:58.13 | Mi | but i dont know how configrurate GRUB |
| 18:58.25 | mtnman | mi: man grub? |
| 18:58.30 | azeem | (where <package> is the respective source package you get from running apt-cache showsrc <binary package>) |
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| 18:58.34 | Neverth | how about command update-grub Mi? |
| 18:58.38 | Coutal | that page is totally blank, azeem |
| 18:58.49 | Mi | i'm looking about in man but |
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| 18:58.59 | azeem | Coutal: replace <package> with the (source) packge you are interested in |
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| 18:59.10 | Mi | i configure it bed |
| 18:59.12 | Coutal | azeem: i did, and it's still blank |
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| 18:59.20 | azeem | Coutal: what did you type? |
| 18:59.23 | Coutal | it redirects me to packages.qa.debian.org/m/microwindows.html |
| 18:59.27 | octopus | can anybody help me by mi wlan0 config? i can see my ap but i dont can connect. if i try to change my settings in iwconfig it dosent do the changings? i dont know why. iwlist wlan0 scan shows my ap. pleas help |
| 18:59.37 | Neverth | Mi, "update-grub"? |
| 19:00.04 | azeem | Coutal: hrm, wicked |
| 19:00.08 | Mi | system can't start becouse var root is bed configured in grub |
| 19:00.23 | Neverth | o |
| 19:00.28 | mtnman | octopus: what commant are you using to connect to the ap? |
| 19:00.30 | Neverth | Mi make initrd images |
| 19:00.32 | mtnman | command |
| 19:00.33 | Coutal | azeem: moreover, if i remove the ".html", i get a directory listing with a news subfolder, that contains actual items about the package being accepted into the archives |
| 19:00.36 | Coutal | so it's even more weird than that. |
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| 19:00.49 | Coutal | http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/microwindows/news/10.html |
| 19:00.50 | azeem | Coutal: well, it does not seem to exist anymore |
| 19:01.00 | Neverth | always good thing to do those |
| 19:01.01 | Mi | i wos make initrd |
| 19:01.01 | octopus | kwifimanger |
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| 19:01.07 | Coutal | packages don't just vanish, do they? :) |
| 19:01.16 | azeem | Coutal: sure |
| 19:01.17 | soothoperator | hi |
| 19:01.28 | azeem | Coutal: if they are not needed anymore/buggy, they might get removed |
| 19:01.41 | Coutal | isn't there any track on that? maybe in wnpp? |
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| 19:01.52 | Neverth | Mi, im not native english dude and i cant understand a shite |
| 19:01.54 | Mi | oh |
| 19:01.58 | mtnman | octopus: i don't know anything about kwifimanager. i use the wireless tools from command line, or /etc/network/interfaces for config at boot time. |
| 19:02.10 | Mi | i don't have file grun.conf why ?? |
| 19:02.19 | Mi | i have menu.list only |
| 19:02.21 | FliesLikeABrick | when i first turn on my router, i ping google from it and it is under 20ms... but then if i do it again a couple minutes later, itll be 100ms+ until i reset the interface connected to the internet. i think it has something to do with my kernel routing tables, but i'm not sure |
| 19:02.30 | sniperjo | hey guys thanks for ure help with the apache stuff |
| 19:02.41 | Neverth | its /boot/grub/menu.lst where you make the boot changes |
| 19:02.43 | azeem | Coutal: http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt |
| 19:02.43 | octopus | i hav configuered /etc/network/interfaces but it also du not changes my settings in iwconfig |
| 19:02.44 | cahoot | mi menu.lst is the one |
| 19:02.49 | sniperjo | I found out it was todo with the headers and firefox just wanted to download it |
| 19:03.01 | Mi | oh thanks |
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| 19:03.21 | azeem | Coutal: #141037 |
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| 19:03.27 | sniperjo | is anyone using samba o nthere system ? |
| 19:03.28 | Mi | but how i shoult configured grub ? |
| 19:03.37 | Coutal | azeem: okay, it's in the removals |
| 19:03.40 | Mi | can i change grub to LILo ?? |
| 19:03.43 | soothoperator | I compiled a 2.6.14er kernel and my rot fs is xfs, wenn i try to boot the kernel i get following error: VFS: Cannot open root device "303" or unknown -block(3,3) Please append a correct "root-" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs unknown-block(3,3) |
| 19:03.46 | mtnman | octopus: does your ap require dhcp or static ip? |
| 19:03.46 | dpower | sniperjo: yes |
| 19:03.58 | mtnman | !tell sniperjo about polls |
| 19:04.06 | Puiu | How do i add a gpg key so apt-get doesn't show me untrusted blah blah |
| 19:04.07 | soothoperator | what can i do? |
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| 19:04.08 | sniperjo | polls |
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| 19:04.10 | sniperjo | ? |
| 19:04.12 | Neverth | Mi, why you don't just use update-grub if you got the kernel properly installed? |
| 19:04.12 | dpower | !polls |
| 19:04.13 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 19:04.22 | sniperjo | what are theny :| |
| 19:04.22 | thingfish | !poles |
| 19:04.24 | deonya | how long would a netinstall take on a 1.3 mbit connection for KDE and etc. |
| 19:04.44 | nvz | !yinzersmite thingfish |
| 19:04.46 | sniperjo | ok well I am having some troble setting up samba |
| 19:04.49 | thingfish | hehe |
| 19:04.51 | Puiu | deonya, 20 minutes |
| 19:04.58 | mtnman | sniperjo: rephrase as a question. |
| 19:04.59 | Mi | Neverth: Ok i do it |
| 19:05.08 | dpower | sniperjo: more specific please |
| 19:05.11 | octopus | my ap is dhcp but i also have tried static in my config file /etc/network/interfaces i have it configured like static |
| 19:05.14 | deonya | and LILO will boot ntfs right? |
| 19:05.19 | sniperjo | please can I have some help with setting up the smb.conf file to let me in |
| 19:05.24 | Puiu | deonya, yes |
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| 19:05.30 | Coutal | azeem: so it's gone eh. do you think i could get the previous packages somehow and maybe adopt it? |
| 19:05.32 | deonya | but grub wont? |
| 19:05.36 | Puiu | deonya, yes it will |
| 19:05.45 | sniperjo | sombody was trying to help me and in all his wisdom erased the whole file |
| 19:05.51 | Puiu | deonya, And it will set it up for you automatically too! |
| 19:06.02 | havoc|the|chaos | is it normal that a kernel needs VFS to boot up correctly ?? |
| 19:06.06 | Puiu | deonya, So after you are done with the net install..you have a choice of windows or linux |
| 19:06.13 | mtnman | octopus: i have a script which, after setting the variables, does "iwconfig $INTERFACE essid $ESSID key $KEY mode managed nick $NICK |
| 19:06.15 | dpower | sniperjo: if you need help setting up your config, google it |
| 19:06.15 | deonya | nice im used to gentoo and i have never dualbooted windows because i never needed windows until now |
| 19:06.19 | dpower | its a very simple config file |
| 19:06.44 | azeem | Coutal: snapshot.debian.net perhaps |
| 19:06.45 | octopus | mtnman: can you sent me de script? |
| 19:06.55 | soothoperator | I compiled a 2.6.14er kernel and my rot fs is xfs, wenn i try to boot the kernel i get following error: VFS: Cannot open root device "303" or unknown -block(3,3) Please append a correct "root-" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs unknown-block(3,3) |
| 19:06.58 | mtnman | octopus: you can use that same command line, but replace the variables with the correct values. |
| 19:07.11 | deonya | and what is the best filesystem choice? |
| 19:07.15 | sniperjo | actually, can somone just tell me the uninstall command to delete the program |
| 19:07.19 | azeem | Coutal: but beware, the reason for removal was: "Request of Maintainer; orphaned, never part of a stable release, doesn't work correctly." |
| 19:07.28 | mtnman | octopus: it is unlikely that my script will work on your system. i pasted the part that is relevant to your situation. |
| 19:07.37 | deonya | I want good compression and speed |
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| 19:07.49 | azeem | deonya: ext3 |
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| 19:07.54 | cahoot | soothoperator: just one idea - missed support for xfs in kernel/ or made it a module |
| 19:07.59 | octopus | mtnman: i have this allready tried but it dont work the iwconfig wlan0 dont chances |
| 19:08.01 | deonya | thats what i usually use |
| 19:08.02 | azeem | deonya: or what kind of file systems are you looking for? |
| 19:08.04 | sniperjo | actually, can somone just tell me the uninstall command to delete the program |
| 19:08.07 | mtnman | deonya: i believe there is a comparison of filesystems at linuxmafia.org |
| 19:08.11 | Jhair | deonya: why compression? HDs are cheap. |
| 19:08.14 | azeem | deonya: so why change? |
| 19:08.21 | smoothoperator | cahoot: no, xfs in compiled into the kernel |
| 19:08.25 | mtnman | sniperjo: dkpg -r foopkg |
| 19:08.32 | Puiu | How do i add a gpg key so apt-get doesn't show me untrusted blah blah |
| 19:08.37 | mtnman | *dpkg -r foopkg |
| 19:08.41 | Puiu | I want to add the marillat key |
| 19:08.45 | sniperjo | foopkg bieng the file ?or app name ? |
| 19:08.49 | abrotman | !marillat key |
| 19:08.50 | dpkg | if you are using apt > 0.6 and it is complaining about a missing gpg key for marillat's repository, apt-get install debian-keyring && gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -, or ask me about <apt secure> |
| 19:08.50 | mtnman | puiu: have you tried to man apt-get? |
| 19:09.04 | mtnman | or look in /usr/share/doc/apt for docs |
| 19:09.10 | Puiu | mtnman, Can you just tell me the command? |
| 19:09.23 | mtnman | puiu: command for what? |
| 19:09.33 | Puiu | importing a gpg key into apt-get's database |
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| 19:10.04 | octopus | mtnman: i have this allready tried but it dont work the iwconfig wlan0 dont chances |
| 19:10.08 | mtnman | puiu: i don't know how to do that, but someone got dpkg bot to show it in the channel. /msg dpkg marillat key to see it again. |
| 19:10.17 | LocoSway | How do i change my window manager from gnome to kde? |
| 19:10.33 | mtnman | octopus: you have already tried what? |
| 19:10.34 | azeem | LocoSway: select the KDE session in the gdm (or kdm) menu |
| 19:10.36 | Puiu | thanks mtnman |
| 19:10.42 | sniperjo | how can I delete an app and all its files ? |
| 19:10.43 | mtnman | puiu: you're welcome. |
| 19:10.44 | Perkeo | hello |
| 19:10.44 | azeem | LocoSway: during login I mean |
| 19:10.58 | mtnman | sniperjo: apt-get --purge remove foopkg |
| 19:11.00 | LocoSway | azeem: there isn't another way to make it standard? |
| 19:11.01 | thc | gnome and kde are not window managers. |
| 19:11.10 | octopus | mtnman to change the settings like you have written |
| 19:11.14 | Any_Key | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.24 | sniperjo | thanks is foopkg the appname ? |
| 19:11.28 | mtnman | !foo |
| 19:11.29 | dpkg | from memory, foo is the first metasyntactic variable, it's a placeholder for some other term. See <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/foo.html> and <bar> |
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| 19:11.38 | azeem | LocoSway: standard for you or system wide? |
| 19:11.40 | caphuso | gpg -a --export keyID | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 19:11.47 | LocoSway | azeem: system wide |
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| 19:11.48 | wathek | what's the name of the package of xine-lib ? |
| 19:11.58 | LocoSway | azeem: in gentoo and arch you can |
| 19:12.02 | smoothoperator | can someone give me a working kernel config for a 2.6.14er kernel? |
| 19:12.21 | sniperjo | Thanks ! |
| 19:12.26 | octopus | mtnman: to change the settings like you have written |
| 19:12.36 | pureone | wathek apt-cache xine | grep lib |
| 19:12.41 | wathek | ok |
| 19:12.52 | Any_Key | caphuso: OK good to |
| 19:12.53 | l0tik | i am runnign 2.6.8, but when i apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8, it says it cant be found. any suggestions? |
| 19:13.08 | azeem | LocoSway: update-alternatives --config x-session-manager |
| 19:13.10 | mtnman | octopus: i'm not really following you very closely since i am in about 3 conversations simultaneously. please make it easy for me. |
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| 19:13.17 | nuck | hi am installing a .deb package "luma" and its asking for a dependency which is an older version of what i have installed. when i install the older version its complaning of conflicting packages. how do i resolve tihs? thanks |
| 19:13.19 | wathek | pureone, it need an option |
| 19:13.21 | pabs3 | smoothoperator: 2.6.14 packages are in incoming, you could try those |
| 19:13.25 | nuck | hi am installing a .deb package "luma" and its asking for a dependency which is an older version of what i have installed. when i install the older version its complaning of conflicting packages. how do i resolve tihs? thanks |
| 19:13.31 | mtnman | octopus: if you do ifconfig -a, does your wlan0 show up? |
| 19:13.32 | LocoSway | azeem: thanks |
| 19:13.36 | Tarantulafudge | l0tik: isn't source automatically installed with the kernel? |
| 19:13.36 | azeem | nuck: using apt |
| 19:13.40 | pabs3 | smoothoperator: err, were, looks like dinstall just ran |
| 19:13.46 | azeem | nuck: or better a frontend like aptitude or synaptic |
| 19:13.56 | smoothoperator | pabs3 ? |
| 19:13.57 | octopus | mtnman: yes.. |
| 19:14.07 | azeem | smoothoperator: they should hit the mirrors in a couple of hours |
| 19:14.08 | l0tik | Tarantulafudge: so your suggesting its already in /usr/src? |
| 19:14.10 | smoothoperator | pabs3 dinstall? |
| 19:14.10 | nuck | could you somehow give me an exact command how to use it? thanks |
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| 19:14.16 | mtnman | octopus: do iwoconfig wlan0 mode managed... |
| 19:14.17 | nuck | azeem could you somehow give me an exact command how to use it? thanks |
| 19:14.31 | smoothoperator | azeem, i dont need an image i need a config |
| 19:14.44 | nuck | i dont prefer to use apt-get because it downloads a lot of things i dont need an dit uses up my internet quota |
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| 19:15.03 | octopus | mtnman: yes |
| 19:15.14 | mtnman | octopus: yes, what? |
| 19:15.17 | Coutal | azeem: so i checked the entire history of the package. it has never been a part of a stable release, the reasons being cross-platform breakage. i only have access to three architectures myself so i doubt i can adopt it. |
| 19:15.49 | thc | nuck: if you are using apt-get, and it pulls more than just the package you entered, those are dependencies, you sort of want those. |
| 19:15.52 | smoothoperator | or does some one know where to get rt2500 precompiled modules for 2.4.12? |
| 19:15.52 | Coutal | and if i get any more, i will have a serious execution problem. |
| 19:16.01 | pabs3 | smoothoperator: dinstall causes stuff to get transferred from incoming.debian.org to the debian archive - it generated this mail too http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6/news/1.html |
| 19:16.04 | siegie | i want to install debian testing wat kan i can download the netinstall cd of sarge and edit /etc/sources.lst or i can download the first cd of debian testing wat is the best option? |
| 19:16.10 | sussudio | 2.4.12? wtf? |
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| 19:16.45 | mtnman | siegie: netinstall cd or first debian cd should both do the job unless you have unusual hardware. |
| 19:17.15 | nuck | thc my original problem is when installing an app its dependency is an older version of what i have. when i install that older version i get an error of conflicting packages. can you or anyone out there help me fix this? thanks |
| 19:17.18 | octopus | mtnman: i have it already do. i have also testet auto and the others... in ifconfig -a i see my wlancard with the mac adress... in iwconfig i sell my ap like 00:00:00 ... bitrate is false and de encypion key is off. if i try to change it with iwconfig wlan0 key mykey it doesnt changes. |
| 19:17.53 | mtnman | octopus: if you want me to help you anymore, please follow the steps i give you now, and do not get ahead of me. ok? |
| 19:18.06 | thc | nuck: i have no idea what you are installing. |
| 19:18.10 | l0tik | is kernel-source installed by default in 2.6.8? |
| 19:18.13 | octopus | mtnman: ok |
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| 19:18.16 | nuck | i am installing luma |
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| 19:18.18 | mtnman | l0tik: no |
| 19:18.31 | octopus | mtnman: then start give me instruktions |
| 19:18.38 | thc | nuck: i have _no idea_ what you are installing, i've never even heard of that. |
| 19:18.41 | l0tik | mtnman: why can't I apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8? |
| 19:18.43 | siegie | mtnman, there is no different install procedure |
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| 19:19.06 | mtnman | siegie: is that a question? |
| 19:19.14 | nuck | thc ok thanks anyways |
| 19:19.16 | Hugo | Hi, my modem HSP56 MR no conect. Message: No dialtone |
| 19:19.22 | mtnman | l0tik: apt-cache search kernel-source and install one. |
| 19:19.37 | siegie | mtnman, yes |
| 19:19.41 | mtnman | octopus: do iwconfig wifi0 mode managed... |
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| 19:19.48 | l0tik | mtnman: so i can use linux-source 2.6.12? |
| 19:19.57 | mtnman | siegie: i don't know what you are asking. |
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| 19:20.18 | octopus | mtnman: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed .. done |
| 19:20.33 | mtnman | l0tik: you can use whatever you want. if you want the source, apt-get a kernel source version which shows up when you do apt-cache search kernel-source. |
| 19:20.39 | sniperjo | arghh somone was helping me with apache and told me a command where it gave me the modules apache would load when it was started, can somone please remind me of the command ? |
| 19:20.55 | mhall | Alright. I need some input on a political issue. So, one of my top five best friends has a girlfriend that's gotten my instant messenger screen name. Every time my friend does the smallest wrong thing, I have to be Mr. Ear and listen to it and quite often I get blamed. It's been happening for months and it's driving me crazy. But if I ignore her or block her my friend will get in big trouble. Does anybody have a fucking clue what I could try? I figured |
| 19:21.27 | sniperjo | arghh somone was helping me with apache and told me a command where it gave me the modules apache would load when it was started, can somone please remind me of the command ? |
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| 19:21.45 | mtnman | octopus: iwconfig wifi0 essid <essid of your ap> |
| 19:21.55 | jbroome | mhall: does she run debian? |
| 19:22.24 | octopus | mtnman: done |
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| 19:22.34 | caphuso | mhall: for the 100th time: this is fucking #debian, not #mhallcanaskwhateverhewants. shut up, or be gone again |
| 19:23.01 | siegie | mtnman, sorry my english is not good but, But i wan't to know if the install with the netinstall cd of sarge the same is as the install procedure with the first cd of the testing |
| 19:23.18 | mtnman | siegie: i believe they both use the same installer. |
| 19:23.22 | gravity | mhall: Just ignore everything she says and the problem will go away |
| 19:23.41 | siegie | mtnman, thx |
| 19:23.42 | mtnman | octopus: iwconfig. does it show the correct essid? |
| 19:23.44 | sniperjo | arghh somone was helping me with apache and told me a command where it gave me the modules apache would load when it was started, can somone please remind me of the command ? |
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| 19:23.50 | gAri- | hi, how can I display the parent pid of processes using ps? |
| 19:23.51 | mtnman | siegie: you're welcome |
| 19:23.55 | octopus | mtnman: no |
| 19:23.59 | Jxpx | # |
| 19:24.10 | mtnman | octopus: do you have a wifi0 and a wlan0? |
| 19:24.38 | octopus | mtnman: i have wlan0 |
| 19:24.56 | octopus | mtnman: i have always written wlan0 not wifi0 ;-) |
| 19:25.27 | mtnman | octopus: i asked a question which required a yes/no answer and you gave me some confusing info instead. |
| 19:25.45 | l0tik | mtnman: I am running kernel 2.6.8, but there is no kernel-source-2.6.8. By getting linux-source-2.6.12, and using it to accomplish my problem, will I be upgraded to 2.6.12? I am trying to isntall madwifi. |
| 19:25.59 | caphuso | gAri-: ps -O ppid or ps -o ppid |
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| 19:26.12 | octopus | mtnman: sorry my englis is not so good... at this time a have checked it out.... i have only a wlan0 |
| 19:26.22 | mhall | l0tik: In principle, going up a few revisions on kernel source will still result in a working kernel. |
| 19:26.45 | mtnman | l0tik: if you compile and install 2.6.8, what do you think you will end up with? |
| 19:26.47 | mhall | l0tik: About madwifi, I have had some real problems getting it to work with enterprise WPA / 802.1x authentication. |
| 19:26.53 | mtnman | octopus: what card? |
| 19:26.58 | gAri- | caphuso: thank you |
| 19:27.35 | octopus | mtnman: vivanco |
| 19:27.51 | mtnman | octopus: not familiar with that one. |
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| 19:28.01 | octopus | mtnman: ? |
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| 19:28.07 | mtnman | octopus: do you have any idea what chipset? |
| 19:28.10 | gAri- | if ppid is 1 than init launched that program? |
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| 19:28.22 | mtnman | octopus: a single question mark does not mean anything to me. |
| 19:28.27 | l0tik | mtnman: I have an Atheros based card though. |
| 19:28.40 | octopus | mtnman: no |
| 19:29.19 | mtnman | octopus: which interfaces does ifconfig -a show? |
| 19:29.19 | Coutal | azeem: snapshot.debian.net does not have it for download. where else might i be able to find it? |
| 19:29.26 | sniperjo | Guys how can I check if a app has been loaded ? |
| 19:29.33 | mtnman | octopus: please do ifconfig -a |
| 19:29.44 | mtnman | sniperjo: psaux|grep appname |
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| 19:29.58 | cahoot | sniperjo: or simply pgrep |
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| 19:30.00 | octopus | mtnman: lo, eth0, wlan0 |
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| 19:30.29 | azeem | Coutal: it's going to be tough then |
| 19:30.33 | mhall | cahoot: omfg pgrep is pretty cool |
| 19:30.40 | mtnman | octopus: i don't know why iwconfig does not seem to work with your card. perhaps a web search is in order. |
| 19:30.44 | azeem | Coutal: as it wasn't part of a stable release, archive.debian.org won't hlp |
| 19:30.51 | mhall | cahoot: i never used it before because i am addicted to awk and regular grep ;-) |
| 19:30.51 | sniperjo | did anyone notice I had some apache problems earlyer ? |
| 19:30.56 | Coutal | azeem: well maybe i should just start over |
| 19:30.59 | azeem | Coutal: I'm out of ideas now, maybe you could mail the former maintainer |
| 19:31.02 | azeem | Coutal: or that |
| 19:31.11 | Tortel | whats the xchat that runs in command line? |
| 19:31.18 | mtnman | sniperjo: you mentioned it enough times that it was hard to miss. |
| 19:31.20 | Coutal | maybe i'll be more lucky than him, who knows :) or maybe uplink fixed those problems by now |
| 19:31.33 | azeem | s/uplink/upstream/ :) |
| 19:31.34 | octopus | mtnman: hm, thank you for your time but in web a only find that what you told me or other stupid problems |
| 19:31.54 | sniperjo | OK sorry, but early some guy gave me a command which when I pressed it was like a setup wizard |
| 19:32.05 | Tortel | found it, nm |
| 19:32.09 | dpower | sniperjo: check your logs |
| 19:32.16 | sniperjo | well it let me specify which mods apache laoded when it started |
| 19:32.26 | sniperjo | which logs ?lol |
| 19:32.29 | dpower | ... |
| 19:32.29 | mtnman | sniperjo: check your .bash_history if you have already run the command. |
| 19:32.43 | sniperjo | I have dissconect before then |
| 19:32.55 | sniperjo | I am on ssh |
| 19:33.13 | dpower | it doesnt matter |
| 19:33.15 | mtnman | sniperjo: you should check your .bash_history. |
| 19:33.33 | sniperjo | ok ill check |
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| 19:33.46 | mtnman | sniperjo: and i only had to ask you twice! |
| 19:33.52 | Rydekull | 19:10:55 < Maulkin> SniperJo: Could you do a 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow apache' for me? Check that the php module has loaded. |
| 19:33.56 | sniperjo | okok lol sorry |
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| 19:34.34 | Coutal | azeem: i tried applying for maintainership once. it was several years ago. but i wasn't proficient enough then, and i got drafted into the army (compulsory service) so i had to withdraw the whole thing |
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| 19:34.48 | mhall | Coutal: What country? |
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| 19:35.02 | Daffy-PKF | lo |
| 19:35.10 | Coutal | mhall: israel |
| 19:35.11 | sniperjo | And there was light! |
| 19:35.12 | mtnman | coutal: the new maintainer process has been streamlined over the past few years. |
| 19:35.19 | sniperjo | Thanks a lot Maulkin !! |
| 19:35.22 | gravity | It has? |
| 19:35.26 | Tarantulafudge | does anyone know if its possible to have webmin authenticate with a db? |
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| 19:35.30 | mtnman | sniperjo: maulkin? |
| 19:35.36 | Coutal | mtnman: so what does that mean in layman's terms? :) |
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| 19:35.46 | mhall | Coutal: Ah. I find that situation somewhat strange because the people likeliest to upset things politically are not required to serve in IDF. |
| 19:35.48 | mtnman | coutal: what does what mean? |
| 19:35.49 | sniperjo | indeed |
| 19:36.02 | mtnman | coutal: what do you mean by "that mean"? |
| 19:36.07 | Coutal | mtnman: streamlined process. how has it changed? |
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| 19:36.21 | Rydekull | mtnman: beats me |
| 19:36.27 | Coutal | mhall: does using/being involved in debian mean that i have to be politically upsetting? :) |
| 19:36.37 | gravity | ouch |
| 19:36.41 | gravity | harsh |
| 19:36.44 | mtnman | coutal: i don't know the specifics, but there was some conversation on the mailing lists about streamlining the process to make it easier. |
| 19:36.54 | mhall | Coutal: No. I meant that the most conservative people in the country aren't required to serve in IDF. |
| 19:36.56 | octopus | mtnman: do you know what NWID (Cell Idetifier) is |
| 19:36.58 | gravity | mtnman: I don't think any such thing has happened |
| 19:37.00 | mhall | Coutal: I should have been more clear. |
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| 19:37.08 | mtnman | octopus: i have never heard of that. |
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| 19:37.28 | Coutal | mhall: service is compulsory for everyone unless they are of the arab minority, or extremely religious, or leftwing protesters (who end up doing a few months in jail and then get exempted) |
| 19:37.38 | FlimFlamMan | are there any known issues with aacraid in debian-stable? |
| 19:37.43 | Tarantulafudge | Anyone? |
| 19:37.51 | Coutal | you can also get medical or psychiatric exemption |
| 19:37.55 | azeem | well, two more barriers were added (Frontdesk, and Joerg Jaspert), so the big one (DAM) got significantly lower |
| 19:37.58 | doleyb | Coutal: more than 10% of pop is "extremely religious |
| 19:38.06 | Maulkin | Hmm? What? |
| 19:38.07 | mhall | Coutal: Yes but the extremely religious are the ones most likely to stir up trouble that the IDF is required to deal with. ;-) |
| 19:38.09 | gravity | That's true |
| 19:38.15 | gravity | But it's not really any easier. Just faster. |
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| 19:38.23 | Daffy-PKF | how do i install openoffice.org? i "apt-get install openoffice.org" but it doesn't create what is needed in /usr/bin and co, i saw openoffice.org-debian-files does that, but it don't want to install despite the fact it should... "Depends: openoffice.org (> 1.1.3+1.1.4) | Depends: openoffice.org-bin (> 1.1.3+1.1.4)" "dpkg -l openoffice.org" shows version 2.0.0-1 installed, "dpkg -l openoffice.org-bin" shows version 1.1.4-7.0.1 installed. |
| 19:38.30 | mhall | Coutal: One would think perhaps they might stir up less if they got called in to deal with it. |
| 19:38.35 | Coutal | doleyb: that's a true observation. the load of service does not divide up properly |
| 19:39.08 | azeem | gravity: HE also started to ask much less questions and rather concentrate on actions |
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| 19:39.24 | sniperjo | I have tried to delete saba to start again and I just tried to reinstall it and it gives |
| 19:39.24 | sniperjo | Setting up samba (3.0.14a-3) ... |
| 19:39.25 | sniperjo | /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst: line 149: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory |
| 19:39.25 | sniperjo | dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): |
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| 19:39.26 | azeem | Russ Allbery was the first candidate |
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| 19:39.30 | gravity | azeem: That's a good thing. I'm not sure how I'm going to use the templates when I finally make the time to be an AM |
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| 19:39.45 | azeem | gravity: yeah, I threw most of them out |
| 19:39.48 | gravity | Cool |
| 19:39.50 | Coutal | mhall: actually, there are two types of religious extremism. part of which also has strong patriotic links and they do their service, sometimes with zeal |
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| 19:40.04 | Fixion | is there a way to mount a cd image (.bin)? |
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| 19:40.09 | gravity | azeem: Although Biella's essay made me think more about the value of some of them. At least in the P&P section. |
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| 19:40.14 | Coutal | Fixion: you can mount it with -o loop |
| 19:40.23 | mhall | Coutal: Ah. That was not especially clear from the documents I'd been reading about the situation. |
| 19:40.25 | sniperjo | arghh I got kicked for smap :S |
| 19:40.27 | Coutal | Fixion: provided it's an ISO standard image. |
| 19:40.30 | Puiu | Does anyone know how to get pcmcia modules with the 2.6.12 kernel on debian.org? |
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| 19:40.39 | MrBallZ | hi everyone |
| 19:40.39 | Puiu | There is no package listed in apt-cache search |
| 19:40.44 | Fixion | Coutal: it says it cant figure out what format it is (I specified iso9660) |
| 19:40.49 | Coutal | mhall: if you have any question i'd be happy to answer you, but i think this channel is not the forum for it. |
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| 19:41.01 | mhall | Coutal: Yes you are correct. |
| 19:41.01 | Coutal | Fixion: try file filename.bin, and if you don't have file installed, apt-get install file |
| 19:41.11 | sniperjo | does anyone recommend anything like samba but better for windows networking with linux ? |
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| 19:41.21 | mhall | Coutal: I must shut up before I get into trouble. I need to quit getting off on tangents here. |
| 19:41.28 | Coutal | mhall: so privmsg would work nicely if you have questions |
| 19:41.29 | vianor | is ack-prioritizing possible in linux? |
| 19:41.29 | mtnman | sniperjo: samba is the deal for win/lin networking |
| 19:41.47 | Fixion | Coutal: it says it's a data file |
| 19:41.48 | mhall | Coutal: About now I must leave anyhow to celebrate my father's birthday. |
| 19:41.50 | Coutal | i've never been pissed with having polite discussions with people about political subjects, as long as they don't digress to flame wars |
| 19:41.55 | sniperjo | mtnman: perfect ecauase I just messed mine up and it wont install |
| 19:41.59 | Coutal | mhall: have a great time then |
| 19:42.09 | Fixion | Coutal: but daemon tools can mount it just fine in windoze |
| 19:42.10 | mtnman | sniperjo: that's nice. |
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| 19:42.22 | sniperjo | mtnman: oh not really |
| 19:42.37 | Coutal | Fixion: this could be a properietry-type image - nero or other. i seriously doubt that you can mount it in linux. perhaps there are utilities which will parse it. |
| 19:42.40 | MrBallZ | question: how " advisable" is to just use a new kernel, I just saw that 2.6.14 was final, I'm using 2.6.8 and well, just wondering if its safe, just to go to another kernel, I know I can boot from different ones , any comments ... |
| 19:42.54 | Fixion | Coutal: thanks |
| 19:43.05 | mtnman | sniperjo: if you want help, you need to learn how to ask good questions. /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 19:43.26 | sniperjo | thanks for the tips :P |
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| 19:44.28 | Daffy-PKF | did someone managed to install openoffice.org-debian-files ? |
| 19:44.43 | mtnman | puiu: do you have module-init-tools installed? |
| 19:45.01 | akhthar | Hi all, I am getting lots of mesages like [29/Oct/2005:15:02:32 -0400] "J6A7Q7Dgot0rf3RHs2ZuWEfYgrtQCUdcW2Drp12Ov" 501 - "-" "-" in httpd access_log(seems to be a DDoS attck) Is there any way to find out site to be targetted and the source? |
| 19:45.02 | Puiu | mtnman, yes |
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| 19:45.24 | Puiu | mtnman, Someone told me knoppix uses "madwifi" so I'm going to try and compile and install that. |
| 19:45.27 | Puiu | And see how that goes. |
| 19:45.41 | Coutal | mtnman: has the process of creating a new package changed radically? are there any new/better tools available? |
| 19:46.11 | mtnman | coutal: tools for...? |
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| 19:46.16 | Maulkin | Coutal: Since when? |
| 19:46.17 | Coutal | creating a package |
| 19:46.22 | Coutal | Maulkin: a few years ago :) |
| 19:46.33 | NachPlus | Is there any reason I can't find a single Checkers game in packages repository? |
| 19:46.38 | Maulkin | Coutal: Well, I don't think it's changed much in the last two years. |
| 19:46.39 | mtnman | coutal: i am no expert on that, but there is info in the dev corner on debian.org |
| 19:46.44 | MrBallZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.55 | Maulkin | Coutal: Check the new maintainer's guide :) |
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| 19:47.23 | mtnman | puiu: good luck. if i were you, i'd be looking for info on your wireless chipset/card before compiling anything. |
| 19:47.25 | azeem | Coutal: look into dpatch/quilt for patch handling and perhaps CDBS for the rest |
| 19:47.25 | woodefec | hey |
| 19:47.46 | azeem | Coutal: debhelper is ubiquitous these days |
| 19:47.51 | mhall | Puiu: I am not sure this rumor of Knoppix madwifi support could be true. |
| 19:48.09 | FlimFlamMan | hello. i'm having problems with a PERC 3/di controller (aacraid?) on a debian-stable system with the 2.6.8-2-686-smp kernel... the system stops responding on the network, can't log in, and the console shows "rejecting i/o to offline device". are there any known issues with this combination? |
| 19:48.10 | mhall | Puiu: madwifi depends on some non free code that Knoppix might not have permission to distribute |
| 19:48.17 | ice_gnome | gnome 2.10.2 run's good in sid |
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| 19:48.26 | mhall | Puiu: so before you go to this much trouble it might be worth confirming this somehow |
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| 19:48.47 | Daffy-PKF | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AuRNXk87.html can someone help please? |
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| 19:49.08 | Inchabod | Does anyone know of a Gaim Plugin for Now Playing in XMMS. |
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| 19:49.10 | Inchabod | ? |
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| 19:49.21 | Inchabod | Or one for xchat/both |
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| 19:49.39 | black_Nightmare | just curious but like whats the prefered browser for debian? |
| 19:49.55 | Maulkin | black_Nightmare: there isn't one |
| 19:50.00 | cheal | black_Nightmare: the one you prefer |
| 19:50.00 | mtnman | black_nightmare: there is no default, but many use firefox. |
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| 19:50.39 | Tortel | the browsers change depending on your display manager/terminal |
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| 19:50.53 | thecoolestcow | hey, any idea why my sound on flash videos is really delayed? i use alsa and firefox, and i dont know what the problem is. |
| 19:50.57 | Tortel | konquer is KDE default |
| 19:51.05 | black_Nightmare | hm ty anyhow |
| 19:51.08 | Tortel | Yea, I get that too |
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| 19:51.17 | mtnman | black_nightmare: i guess you need to qualify "preferred by whom?" |
| 19:51.20 | Tortel | Mozilla=gnome default |
| 19:51.30 | Tortel | i think |
| 19:51.42 | ice_gnome | are you usein comcast ? |
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| 19:52.15 | akhthar | any help with DDoS attack?? |
| 19:52.26 | ice_gnome | if so thats why |
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| 19:53.14 | thecoolestcow | anyone know a easy-to-use ftp server? |
| 19:53.20 | thecoolestcow | er, daemon |
| 19:53.40 | mtnman | thecoolestcow: there is a comparison of ftp daemons at linuxmafia.org |
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| 19:53.49 | thecoolestcow | thanks |
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| 19:54.06 | mikael_ | hello |
| 19:54.07 | shai | hi, how do i know what groups are set for 'read' in my files ?? |
| 19:54.20 | shai | hi, b/c my system has quite alot of groups |
| 19:54.28 | shai | remove the 2nd hi ;) |
| 19:54.28 | Tortel | the group that owns it |
| 19:54.41 | mtnman | thecoolestcow: correcthion: linuxmafia.COM |
| 19:54.47 | mikael_ | I'd like to execute an instruction before the modules are loaded how should i proceed |
| 19:54.56 | boneless | is there something wrong with #gentoo? i tried joining for the first time of my life and get "address is banned" |
| 19:54.59 | Inchabod | Does anyone know a plugin for XMMS or Gaim to display the currently playing song? |
| 19:55.06 | Inchabod | or set it in your name, etc. |
| 19:55.16 | azeem | mikael_: for a specific module, or in general? |
| 19:55.25 | Tortel | boneless: Are you on a netowrk? |
| 19:55.29 | gravity | boneless: It works for me. Maybe you should ask in #freenode |
| 19:55.31 | mikael_ | azeem it's for the ipw2100 driver |
| 19:55.44 | gravity | Since #debian has nothing to do with #gentoo |
| 19:55.54 | boneless | ok, thanks |
| 19:55.55 | mtnman | mikael_: what command, exactly do you want to run before loading modules? |
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| 19:56.15 | azeem | mikael_: you can do that in /etc/modutils.d I think, check the files there for examples |
| 19:56.25 | mikael_ | mtnman echo "1" > /proc/..... |
| 19:56.33 | Tortel | boneless: It could be because that you show a IP adress |
| 19:56.46 | Tortel | boneless: And part of that is banned |
| 19:56.48 | azeem | mikael_: eh, /etc/modprobe.d |
| 19:57.03 | azeem | mikael_: I have for example: |
| 19:57.03 | azeem | install nsc-ircc /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none port 0 irq 0; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install nsc-ircc |
| 19:57.12 | Tortel | ooo |
| 19:57.16 | mikael_ | azeem yes ? |
| 19:57.28 | Tortel | boneless: dont have fuck in your connect thing anywahere |
| 19:57.32 | RolandU | where can I put environment-variables if I don't want to enter them everytime I open a new session? |
| 19:57.37 | mikael_ | oh ok |
| 19:57.38 | Tortel | *!*fuck*@* is banned |
| 19:57.57 | AciD | why isn't apt-listbugs activated _before_ apt-get download all the bad packages ? |
| 19:58.03 | mtnman | rolandu: .bashrc, i would guess |
| 19:58.12 | mikael_ | azeem so i have to create a file in modprobe.d directory ? |
| 19:58.23 | azeem | mikael_: or add to one of them, but yeah |
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| 19:58.45 | azeem | mikael_: however, I tried something similar for ipw2200 on my dad's notebook lately, and did not manage |
| 19:58.47 | tung | hey guys |
| 19:58.53 | mikael_ | azeem can I add it in /etc/modules ? |
| 19:59.16 | azeem | mikael_: I think you can only add module names to /etc/modules, nothing more complicated |
| 19:59.17 | mtnman | mikael_: /etc/modules only takes names of modules and params afaik |
| 19:59.19 | azeem | but not sure |
| 19:59.21 | tung | im trying to remove abiword, but when i do an apt-get remove abiword, it says that abiword is not installed, even though i see that its installed |
| 19:59.24 | azeem | anyway, going to a party now, bye |
| 19:59.39 | azeem | tung: maybe abiword-gnome is installed? |
| 19:59.39 | mikael_ | azeem mtnman oh ok |
| 19:59.41 | mtnman | mikael_: what are you echoing to /proc? |
| 19:59.43 | azeem | dunno if that has all the meat |
| 19:59.49 | cheal | AciD: because it's a baaad package |
| 20:00.01 | mikael_ | mtnman actually it's echo 100 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout |
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| 20:00.08 | tung | azeem: ahh... thank you! |
| 20:00.35 | mtnman | mikael_: is there a particular modules that command applies to? |
| 20:00.48 | mikael_ | mtnman it's a work around because the firmware for ipw2100 driver cannot be loaded |
| 20:00.57 | mtnman | mikael_: if so, perhaps you can do it as a module paramater |
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| 20:01.53 | mikael_ | mtnman azeem thank you both, I'm going to try that |
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| 20:02.15 | mtnman | mikael_: you're welcome, and good luck |
| 20:02.21 | mikael_ | :) |
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| 20:02.33 | boneless | tortel: thanks, the "fuck" wasnt welcome |
| 20:03.45 | RolandU | thanks for all the help and good night! |
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| 20:04.38 | wouterrr | hello |
| 20:04.51 | wouterrr | i'm trying to customizing my debian installer |
| 20:05.01 | wouterrr | compiled new 2.6 kernel and made the initrd image |
| 20:05.13 | wouterrr | got that from the debian installation hacker manual |
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| 20:05.14 | Tortel | boneless: oooops |
| 20:05.21 | wouterrr | all fine, but it doesn't create ./etc/fstab |
| 20:05.25 | wouterrr | so it doesn't mount devfs |
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| 20:06.34 | Neverth | wtf, debhelp is trashed? |
| 20:06.59 | Frosted | Anyone know of any 'decent' sftp clients? |
| 20:07.17 | black_Nightmare | there any office suites rather than openoffice in the debian respo? (ugh how did you spell that?) |
| 20:07.20 | Neverth | gftp? |
| 20:07.27 | bbrazil | black_Nightmare: koffice |
| 20:07.29 | Frosted | neverth: I said decent :P |
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| 20:07.40 | Neverth | no |
| 20:07.46 | Frosted | thought so.. |
| 20:07.51 | black_Nightmare | bbrazil..hmm is there a second option in case I didn't decide to use kde anyhow? |
| 20:07.58 | Frosted | wonder if tehre's an sftp patch for ncftp |
| 20:08.21 | takatumi | lftp won't do? |
| 20:08.46 | Frosted | lftp, let me check, don't remember if I've tried it. :) |
| 20:09.20 | bbrazil | black_Nightmare: abiword? |
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| 20:10.33 | Tortel | black_Nightmare: What you looking for? |
| 20:10.34 | wouterrr | i seriously would like some help |
| 20:10.36 | black_Nightmare | hm...ty anyhow bbrazil |
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| 20:10.43 | Tortel | black_Nightmare: text editors? |
| 20:10.44 | wouterrr | how can i make an image like the initrd in sarge |
| 20:10.44 | AciD | black_Nightmare > gnumeric is good for spreadsheet |
| 20:10.53 | wouterrr | with the binaries and all included in the initrd ? |
| 20:11.01 | Tortel | black_Nightmare: Openoffice.org |
| 20:11.01 | wouterrr | because if i create one of my own i can't installl debian |
| 20:11.11 | black_Nightmare | tortel..to be honest..I've not liked OO much at all so was planning to remove it as soon as I get this debian-based distro installed onto my system |
| 20:11.21 | black_Nightmare | acid...ty |
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| 20:11.33 | Neverth | ok, time to nuke the system, debhelp is trashed, apt-get hangs, locales don't work, but i can still watch anime with framebuffer!! |
| 20:11.40 | NachPlus | Anybody here been having issues with cdrecord recently? |
| 20:11.56 | Neverth | yes, it won't install |
| 20:11.58 | mtnman | nachplus: check the bts |
| 20:12.18 | bbrazil | eek, trying to sign the key of the 4th most connected DD takes a while |
| 20:12.19 | NachPlus | mtnman, I did, I just wanted to know if more than me and the guy who reported it are having issues |
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| 20:13.01 | mtnman | nachplus: taking polls is frowned upon in the channel. /msg dpkg polls |
| 20:13.04 | mhall | bbrazil: hehe |
| 20:13.06 | mhall | bbrazil: who is it? |
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| 20:13.44 | mhall | Frosted: The text client for it is pretty horrifying, I agree. |
| 20:13.46 | NachPlus | mtnman, I wasn't looking for a poll, I just want to know if it's common or very bizare and the people responsible for the package can't replicate it |
| 20:13.49 | bbrazil | mhall: mako |
| 20:13.59 | mtnman | nachplus: you asked a poll. |
| 20:14.08 | NachPlus | since I notice we're taking packages from Ubuntu recently, and seems their board has been going nuts over cd burning recently |
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| 20:14.24 | mhall | NachPlus: Nuts over CD Burning? |
| 20:14.39 | NachPlus | mhall, many people are having very bizare issues recently, and nobody can fix it |
| 20:14.44 | mhall | NachPlus: Joerg Schilling is extremely psychotic. |
| 20:14.47 | MrBallZ | question: how " advisable" is to just use a new kernel, I just saw that 2.6.14 was final, I'm using 2.6.8 and well, just wondering if its safe, just to go to another kernel, I know I can boot from different ones , any comments ... |
| 20:14.55 | mhall | NachPlus: Perhaps try another tool besides cdrecord. |
| 20:15.02 | NachPlus | I for example have my CD burner work fine till 31% then it starts going at 2x |
| 20:15.10 | NachPlus | mhall, and it's every CD burning program I've tried |
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| 20:15.21 | NachPlus | cdrdao and Nero too have this problem |
| 20:15.22 | mhall | NachPlus: Oh wait. This sounds familiar to me too. |
| 20:15.29 | wouterrr | A newer version of the 2.6 kernel than what was released in sarge is available in recent daily builds. |
| 20:15.32 | wouterrr | where can i find those ?? |
| 20:15.32 | mhall | NachPlus: It always happens further to the end of the disk though. |
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| 20:15.46 | mhall | NachPlus: I tried to force it to use DMA with hdparm but that did not fix it. |
| 20:15.56 | signius | I use the #ubuntu room and it is true alot of people are having problem with CD burning for some odd reason btu as i only have a CD ROM in the Laptop i run Ubuntu on i cant shed any light onto this myself |
| 20:16.01 | bbrazil | mhall: misaligned laser? |
| 20:16.02 | NachPlus | mhall, I tried everything that everyone suggested, and nothing helped :P |
| 20:16.08 | tvn | NachPlus: try nero ? |
| 20:16.16 | NachPlus | tvn, yes I've tried Nero |
| 20:16.18 | gravity | signius: It works on my Debian laptop. |
| 20:16.20 | NachPlus | I said that already |
| 20:16.20 | mhall | bbrazil: Well classic response is, works in Windows. |
| 20:16.36 | bbrazil | mhall: thus I proposed hardware |
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| 20:16.41 | NachPlus | mhall, my unclassic repsponse is that it works fine in Knoppix |
| 20:16.43 | jacm | what source have quanta? |
| 20:16.47 | mhall | NachPlus: hehehe |
| 20:16.55 | signius | MachPlus have you tried burning any CDs with command line cdrecord and not any fancy GUI front ends ? |
| 20:16.59 | mhall | NachPlus: I guess I might guess kernel problem. |
| 20:17.03 | NachPlus | signius, yes |
| 20:17.10 | NachPlus | mhall, could be... |
| 20:17.18 | jacm | what source is quanta? |
| 20:17.34 | mtnman | signius: i would imagine there is a mailing list for cdrecord... |
| 20:17.35 | jacm | my english es very bad excuse me |
| 20:17.41 | mhall | !tell jacm about pdo |
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| 20:17.51 | mhall | jacm: Try packages.debian.org/quanta |
| 20:17.51 | cddesjar | jacm what's your language? |
| 20:17.58 | mhall | jacm: That should say what the source package is. |
| 20:18.18 | jacm | spanish |
| 20:18.22 | cddesjar | !spanish |
| 20:18.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 20:18.27 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:18.29 | signius | Maybe try getting the latest cdrecord and compiling it yourself and see if you get the same problems |
| 20:18.32 | NachPlus | signius, when I checked their forum, seems every person had a different problem, but they all had problems come about recently |
| 20:18.37 | mhall | If you post to the cdrecord mailing lists watch the hell out for Joerg. He's insane. |
| 20:18.44 | NachPlus | signius, I tried that too |
| 20:18.49 | Zoo | 8-) |
| 20:18.54 | NachPlus | I compiled cdrdao myself too |
| 20:19.00 | mhall | NachPlus: Did you get a psycho reply from Joerg? |
| 20:19.07 | mhall | NachPlus: What kernel have you got btw. |
| 20:19.12 | NachPlus | mhall, I didn't post, just read |
| 20:19.13 | Zoo | hey mhall :) |
| 20:19.19 | mhall | Zoo: 'lo |
| 20:19.23 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:19.27 | NachPlus | well I've tried 2.6.11 and 2.6.12 |
| 20:19.31 | mhall | NachPlus: Can you agree that Joerg is crazy? |
| 20:19.33 | Zoo | went out partyin last nite.. 8-) |
| 20:19.37 | mtnman | nachplus: maybe try a 2.4 |
| 20:19.41 | NachPlus | mhall, I don't think I saw his posts |
| 20:19.43 | mhall | Zoo: never woulda guessed it ;-) |
| 20:19.52 | Zoo | ;) |
| 20:20.01 | mhall | NachPlus: Ah you missed out. A good Joerg post is a real sight for sure. |
| 20:20.09 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:20.16 | NachPlus | mtnman, well, I know it worked fine for me before the summer, and I've been using 2.6.x since early this year |
| 20:20.18 | Inchabod | Has anyone ever used Oddcastv3-Jack? |
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| 20:20.32 | mtnman | nachplus: well, i made a suggestion. you can try it or not. |
| 20:20.42 | NachPlus | I may try and 2.6.5 or something if it annoys me enough |
| 20:20.51 | NachPlus | DVDs still burn fine for me last I checked |
| 20:21.05 | sniperjo | Hello ! I had samba on my linux and I decided to uninstall it and start again so I deleted the etc/samba and I used --purge to delete the main stuff |
| 20:21.12 | mtnman | nachplus: the reason i suggest 2.4 is that it is more mature. |
| 20:21.25 | sniperjo | now it doesn't install again, how can I go about making it installl again ? |
| 20:21.40 | dpower | apt-get install samba |
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| 20:21.45 | signius | I am finding alot of people in the #ubuntu room refuse to accpet there is alot of problems with this latest breezy release tho i am persoanlly having a nightmare with any wireless nics i use that appear as more than 1 interface like my nee Senao prism based card having wifi0 & wlan0 and also with a cisco aironet card both these cards have 2 external antennas and no matter how i confiugure the cards when i reboot ubuntu wants insists on tryin |
| 20:21.48 | sniperjo | it gives an error |
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| 20:21.53 | sniperjo | its too long to paste |
| 20:21.56 | mtnman | sniperjo: telling us it doesn't install doesn't mean much w/o the error msg |
| 20:22.15 | sniperjo | last time I pasted it I got booted for spamming p |
| 20:22.15 | mhall | NachPlus: Here's a sample. |
| 20:22.23 | mtnman | sniperjo: see if you can find the juicy part of the error msg |
| 20:22.28 | signius | The only cards i got working is my prism using the orinoco drivers which makes it appear as 1 nic eth1 as soon as i installed the hostap drivers it was screwed |
| 20:22.48 | signius | as soon as went back to a melco card which used the orinoco drivers it worked fine |
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| 20:22.50 | dpower | signius: thats why you use debian :) |
| 20:22.52 | mhall | NachPlus: http://lists.debian.org/cdwrite/2004/03/msg00091.html <-- Note how he says RH violated the GPL by using his GPL code to make a GPL app. Then he recommends his non-free app instead of RH's GPL one. |
| 20:22.55 | mtnman | signius: i use hostap for prism2 and all works fine. |
| 20:23.06 | mhall | NachPlus: That's barely the tip of the Joerg iceberg. |
| 20:23.13 | signius | I might try and install Debian on the Laptop tomorrow and see what happens |
| 20:23.27 | sniperjo | var/lib/dpkg/samba.postinst No such file or directory |
| 20:23.51 | mtnman | signius: did you remove orinoco when you config'd for hostap? |
| 20:23.57 | NachPlus | mhall, I try to ignore license insanity. Most license related issues goes off into strange realms |
| 20:24.14 | sniperjo | The error when trying to install it was : var/lib/dpkg/samba.postinst No such file or directory |
| 20:24.23 | signius | I personally would prefere to run Debian but i am sure i couldnt get it installed on the laptop before but i was a really really green newbie then i am not as bad now so i may have more success |
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| 20:24.47 | mtnman | sniperjo: try "touch /var/lib/dpkg/samba.postinst and try again |
| 20:24.47 | mhall | NachPlus: Especially with Joerg involved. |
| 20:25.03 | signius | No i did not remove the orinoco drivers as i also use another wireless in the laptop which has a bult in attenna i use also |
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| 20:25.31 | alain__ | nick fdisk |
| 20:25.36 | mtnman | signius: try removing the orinoco config to get the hostap working. |
| 20:25.41 | mhall | NachPlus: Here is another better one: http://lists.debian.org/cdwrite/2005/10/msg00006.html |
| 20:25.42 | NachPlus | mhall, that post looks tame compared to what I've had to deal with with my own software |
| 20:25.52 | signius | mtman how would i go about doing that ? |
| 20:26.03 | mtnman | signius: modconf or vi /etc/modules |
| 20:26.12 | sniperjo | Another Error : |
| 20:26.13 | sniperjo | dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): |
| 20:26.13 | sniperjo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.17 | mhall | NachPlus: Note that he claims it's a bug in Linux but it's actually not. |
| 20:26.26 | NachPlus | mhall, some guy was ranting to me a few weeks back how someone wrote one of the docs for one of my apps under GNU FDL and that's not free so he's going to track me down and kill me for it or something |
| 20:26.51 | mhall | NachPlus: Linux prevents arbitrary user processes from writing raw SCSI commands into devices and frying them. |
| 20:27.11 | signius | mtman so i would just comment out anything to do with the orinoco configs in /etc/modules ? |
| 20:27.17 | mhall | NachPlus: Joerg thinks he should be able to send in whichever commands he wants without regard to whether it could be a security problem. |
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| 20:27.26 | mtnman | signius: that is the idea |
| 20:27.34 | mhall | NachPlus: Despite repeated attempts to explain this he still doesn't listen. |
| 20:27.41 | mhall | NachPlus: GFDL issue is really insane. |
| 20:27.50 | mtnman | signius: you will probably want to edit /etc/network/interfaces as well |
| 20:27.54 | mhall | NachPlus: I tried once to sort it out on a Debian list but it went right straight to hell. |
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| 20:28.07 | facundoas | holaaaa |
| 20:28.11 | facundoas | dir |
| 20:28.13 | facundoas | asd |
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| 20:28.27 | sniperjo | The error when trying to install it was : var/lib/dpkg/samba.postinst No such file or directory |
| 20:28.35 | facundoas | q mierda es eso |
| 20:28.38 | facundoas | me cago en todos |
| 20:28.43 | signius | mtman yeah i have edited /etc/network/interfaces till the cows come home and nothing at all resolves the issue |
| 20:28.44 | mtnman | sniperjo: i suggested that you "touch" that filename. |
| 20:28.59 | sniperjo | touch ? |
| 20:29.00 | mtnman | signius: i mean to reflect the change to hostap. |
| 20:29.05 | NachPlus | mhall, because of recent issues like this, I'm afraid to even open source some of my recent programs? |
| 20:29.09 | mtnman | sniperjo: man touch. |
| 20:29.13 | signius | mtman also my next problem is that ubuntu doesnt appear to have an /etc/modules |
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| 20:29.20 | sniperjo | What does that mean ?? lol |
| 20:29.39 | mtnman | signius: the problem is that you are trying to get ubuntu help on #debian. |
| 20:29.43 | mtnman | !ubuntu |
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| 20:29.44 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 20:29.45 | P_Kable | facundoas: cabron |
| 20:29.53 | Puiu | I have onboard wireless on my mobo...it's an atheros wireless card...the card works perfect with knoppix 4.0.2(2.6.12-1-386) livecd...But when I formatted that same laptop with debian/sid(2.6.12-1-386) the wireless doesn't work anymore. |
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| 20:30.17 | Puiu | I have wireless-tools installed, and I compiled the madwifi cvs and the ath_pci and ath_rate_onoe modules loaded into the kernel with no errors. |
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| 20:30.19 | mtnman | puiu: why sid and not sarge? |
| 20:30.24 | josepho | What is the difference between "$#" and "$*" and "$@" ? |
| 20:30.26 | Puiu | mtnman, better software? |
| 20:30.34 | Puiu | mtnman, Does it matter? |
| 20:30.34 | mhall | josepho: Ah yes. |
| 20:30.38 | Puiu | Regarding the wireless that is. |
| 20:30.40 | signius | nah i was just commenting on my problem i wasnt actually expecting anyone to help me with it in here but you sounded like youw as willing to give it a go as the ubuntu guys refused to accept the problem but i appreciate you trying anyways |
| 20:30.42 | mtnman | puiu: yes. unstable is not for newbies. |
| 20:30.50 | sniperjo | What does that mean ?? lol |
| 20:30.53 | mhall | josepho: $* and $@ expand things differently based on quote marks in them |
| 20:30.55 | Puiu | mtnman, sure it is |
| 20:30.55 | Puiu | heh |
| 20:30.58 | Puiu | It's just as stable as stable. |
| 20:30.59 | sniperjo | how should I amtouch a file ? |
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| 20:31.08 | babar | beginer search help in french. |
| 20:31.09 | Puiu | I had sarge installed..wireless didn't work with that either. |
| 20:31.09 | dpower | sniperjo: are you dense? |
| 20:31.11 | mtnman | puiu: you are sounding like an ignoramus. |
| 20:31.12 | josepho | sniperjo: touch <filename> |
| 20:31.14 | dpower | sniperjo: man touch |
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| 20:31.26 | Puiu | Well I've been using sid for a few years. |
| 20:31.31 | Puiu | I've never once had any problems. |
| 20:31.34 | josepho | mhall: does $* mean ALL variables passed to a function, e. g. ? |
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| 20:31.42 | Puiu | Nothing is unstable from my point of view. |
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| 20:31.49 | sniperjo | I did that but the error is still there |
| 20:32.00 | Puiu | I've never had to fix anything once. |
| 20:32.04 | josepho | Puiu: well, unstable is known for being unstable ;) |
| 20:32.05 | mhall | josepho: hold on one second |
| 20:32.08 | Puiu | It all just works...just like stable. |
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| 20:32.11 | mhall | josepho: alright i have the answer now |
| 20:32.11 | mtnman | !unstable |
| 20:32.11 | dpkg | somebody said unstable was the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid |
| 20:32.24 | mhall | josepho: man bash then run /Special Parameters |
| 20:32.32 | josepho | mhall: thnx ... |
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| 20:32.36 | Puiu | mtnman, Never happened to me once. |
| 20:32.37 | mhall | josepho: that section explains the different ones and how they work |
| 20:32.46 | mtnman | puiu: consider yourself fortunate. |
| 20:32.47 | Puiu | mtnman, You are misisng hte point. |
| 20:32.47 | josepho | mhall: btw try a search for those with google |
| 20:32.55 | Puiu | It doesn't matter if I use unstable or stable with wireless. |
| 20:32.55 | mhall | josepho: i found it with /^R$@ |
| 20:32.57 | jsan | good nigth my friends |
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| 20:33.00 | Puiu | It's all the same 2.6 base kernel |
| 20:33.05 | joloc | josepho: "$*" expands to string with all arguments, "$@" expands to multiple strings, each one containing an argument |
| 20:33.07 | mhall | josepho: yes that's why i didn't blame you for not finding it yourself |
| 20:33.08 | josepho | mhall: you will be surprised about the result :) |
| 20:33.09 | sniperjo | if a touch does not work what else should I do ? |
| 20:33.10 | Puiu | And they have the same pcmcia modules |
| 20:33.16 | mtnman | puiu: you seem to have all the answers. |
| 20:33.17 | Puiu | So this is all irrelevant. |
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| 20:33.21 | mhall | josepho: i have tried to search for shell information before with google |
| 20:33.23 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:33.31 | mhall | josepho: and unless you know the exact terms it never ever works :-) |
| 20:33.36 | cmdKeen | Is there some reason why I shouldn't use CheckInstall ? Or is there some debian way to do package from make install ? |
| 20:33.38 | Zoo | -> www.linuxcommand.org :) |
| 20:33.43 | Zoo | : P |
| 20:33.44 | josepho | thnx all :D |
| 20:33.56 | mhall | josepho: you can't google really weird strings unfortunatelyt |
| 20:33.57 | Puiu | mtnman, I never said that. |
| 20:34.01 | Puiu | I just know unstable is very stable. |
| 20:34.05 | josepho | joloc: and what about "$#" ? :) |
| 20:34.10 | mtnman | puiu: i'm done. |
| 20:34.12 | joloc | josepho: number of arguments |
| 20:34.13 | Zoo | ;) |
| 20:34.16 | josepho | ah |
| 20:34.17 | jsan | Whats the diference between flags --protocol tcp --tcp-flags ALL SYN,ACK and flag -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED |
| 20:34.23 | josepho | that makes sense of course |
| 20:34.33 | josepho | like you pass lpr its number of copies with a "#" |
| 20:34.42 | signius | mtman i found the modules and all that is listed in it is " lp mousedev psmouse " |
| 20:34.46 | Zoo | 80 O'Reilly Books (TCP-IP, Unix, Web, Perl, Java, Oracle, xml, etc) ! :D |
| 20:34.51 | sniperjo | mtnman : what should I do if touch does not seem to have any affect ? |
| 20:34.55 | Zoo | ;) |
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| 20:34.59 | mtnman | sniperjo: do about what? |
| 20:35.01 | Zoo | and got way more : P |
| 20:35.11 | josepho | Zoo: go read those 80 books... |
| 20:35.15 | sniperjo | mtnman: the error I get when install samba? |
| 20:35.17 | mtnman | signius: you need to install the module for your card |
| 20:35.18 | Zoo | I already have read some : D |
| 20:35.21 | signius | Actually dont worry about it i think i am on the verge of dumping ubuntu and going back to the real thing debian |
| 20:35.25 | black_Nightmare | one question out of curiousity...how many of you always do installs as soon as they appear in apt-get updates? |
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| 20:35.33 | black_Nightmare | err sorry if that didn't make sense |
| 20:35.34 | Zoo | I am into PC BSD ! :D |
| 20:35.36 | josepho | Zoo: then go to some cert center and see if you really understodd it |
| 20:35.40 | mboso | I'm looking to benchmark my system before i upgrade. any suggestions on popular benchmarking suites? |
| 20:35.43 | josepho | Zoo: pearsonvue.com |
| 20:35.45 | mtnman | signius: you are really on the wrong channel for ubuntu help. |
| 20:35.46 | Zoo | its faster than any linux I have tried.. its unix in KDE ! :D |
| 20:35.51 | bbrazil | jsan: the first is combinatorial logic, the second has memory |
| 20:35.55 | Zoo | already do.. :) |
| 20:36.04 | mtnman | sniperjo: what is the error? |
| 20:36.05 | Zoo | and its understand it ;) |
| 20:36.07 | Frosted | ok, so lftp rules :D |
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| 20:36.13 | Frosted | ty whoever mentioned that |
| 20:36.21 | sniperjo | mtnman : The error when trying to install it was : var/lib/dpkg/samba.postinst No such file or directory |
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| 20:36.30 | josepho | Frosted: dont forget to use update-alternatives with lftp :D |
| 20:36.46 | mhall | Frosted: ah it supports sftp |
| 20:36.54 | mhall | Frosted: i knew it did regular and ssl |
| 20:37.00 | mhall | Frosted: how do you do it? |
| 20:37.01 | mtnman | sniperjo: well, if you "touch" that filename, it creates an empty file with that name, and should at least get you a different error msg |
| 20:37.03 | dpower | sniperjo: how are you trying to install |
| 20:37.26 | Zoo | ;) |
| 20:37.26 | signius | thanks gusy off to do a re-install and bite the bullet |
| 20:37.33 | sniperjo | atp-get install samba |
| 20:37.38 | Zoo | (O'Reilly) - Understanding The Linux Kernel |
| 20:37.48 | Zoo | Artech House - Publishers The Satellite Communication Applications Handbook |
| 20:37.52 | alain__ | dpkg -i |
| 20:37.53 | josepho | Zoo: go for CCSP :P |
| 20:37.57 | Zoo | Artech House - Computer and Intrusion Forensics |
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| 20:38.07 | Zoo | Artech House - Radio Engineering for Wireless Communication and Sensor Applications |
| 20:38.13 | Frosted | mhall, just lftp -u user sftp://IP |
| 20:38.16 | Zoo | Artech House - Wireless Internet Teleocommunications (2005) |
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| 20:38.25 | Zoo | Artech House - Wireless Technicians Handbook |
| 20:38.26 | sniperjo | ok the full error was |
| 20:38.26 | sniperjo | Setting up samba (3.0.14a-3) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst: line 149: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory |
| 20:38.26 | mhall | Frosted: lol! if only i had know it was the easy |
| 20:38.26 | sniperjo | dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 20:38.27 | eka | hi all |
| 20:38.27 | sniperjo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.28 | sniperjo | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' debianServer:~# subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 20:38.31 | sniperjo | -bash: subprocess: command not found debianServer:~# dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): |
| 20:38.33 | sniperjo | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' debianServer:~# subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 20:38.33 | Frosted | Was abit frustrated cause I didn't find -R for recursive, but it has mirror which is even better, lol :D |
| 20:38.34 | dpower | sheesh |
| 20:38.36 | sniperjo | -bas |
| 20:38.38 | sniperjo | sorry about it spamming |
| 20:38.49 | Zoo | C++ Network Programming Volume 1(Addison Wesley) |
| 20:39.03 | Zoo | Cisco - Designing Network Security |
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| 20:39.09 | josepho | sniperjo: are you on sarge ? |
| 20:39.10 | mhall | Frosted: i suffered with that hunk of shit sftp client forever |
| 20:39.12 | Zoo | Computer Science - AI - Artificial Intelligence Programming |
| 20:39.20 | Hi-Fi | is there a need for mime.types to be updated somehow if you modify it "un-automagically"? |
| 20:39.21 | josepho | Zoo: plz stop posting |
| 20:39.22 | Zoo | Computer Science - Networking - Oreilly - Building Wireless Community Networks |
| 20:39.23 | Frosted | mhall, ye, me to.. :( |
| 20:39.27 | gravity | Zoo: Stop it |
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| 20:39.32 | mattpj1 | hi |
| 20:39.35 | sniperjo | Sarge ? |
| 20:39.38 | Zoo | Linux GNU Debian Bible ! :D |
| 20:39.40 | eka | any time i want to use an audio app or an app that uses audio (like xine) i have to execute alsaconf that kills all the procesess that are using audio and reconfigures my card but how not to do that? i tryied esound but i can only use xmms |
| 20:39.40 | mtnman | hi-fi:there is an update-mime, iirc |
| 20:39.48 | mattpj1 | i need help with something i need to install java on my comp i cant get it to work |
| 20:39.48 | Hi-Fi | thanks :) |
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| 20:40.01 | mtnman | hi-fi: welcome |
| 20:40.08 | josepho | sniperjo: which deb release are you using? stable (sarge)? unstable (sid)? testing (etch currently) ? |
| 20:40.16 | mtnman | !tell matpj1 about install java |
| 20:40.19 | sniperjo | Sarge |
| 20:40.24 | Akrame | hello i have a problem , i installed an ftpserver , and when i uninstalled it , the port 21 is still bein used . how can i know which pid is usin that port |
| 20:40.26 | mattpj1 | mtnman ? |
| 20:40.28 | Akrame | and how can remove it |
| 20:40.36 | sniperjo | mtnman : did you see my error ? |
| 20:40.42 | mtnman | sniperjo: no |
| 20:40.44 | josepho | Akrame: netstat -A inet -lnp |
| 20:40.58 | mtnman | mattpj1: "?" is not a valid question. |
| 20:41.00 | sniperjo | mtnman; please scroleup otherwise I am sure I will get kicked for spamming |
| 20:41.12 | mattpj1 | ok well i have no java at all i just wanna install it i cant do anything i cant find it and when i do i cant install it |
| 20:41.12 | mtnman | sniperjo: no scroll here. |
| 20:41.15 | Zoo | New Riders Publishing - Network Intrusion Detection - Third Edition, O'Reilly - Learning Debian Gnu Linux, Radio Frequency Integrated Circuit Design (Artech House-2003), Stroustrup - The C++ Programming Language Special Edition (Addison Wesley), The Complete FreeBSD, Fourth Edition (O'Reilly), UNIX System Administration - A Beginner's Guide !! :D :D :D |
| 20:41.16 | mattpj1 | something im not getting ? |
| 20:41.20 | mattpj1 | i get these errors |
| 20:41.28 | mtnman | matpj1: /msg dpkg install java |
| 20:41.34 | Jxpx | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.34 | sniperjo | mtman : ok but if I get kicked u know why :P |
| 20:41.36 | sniperjo | Setting up samba (3.0.14a-3) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst: line 149: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory |
| 20:41.36 | sniperjo | dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 20:41.37 | sniperjo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.41 | josepho | mtnman: there seems to be a prob in some post install script - or something is mounted RO |
| 20:41.42 | dpower | fucking moron |
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| 20:42.01 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:42.05 | sniperjo | hmm told u so |
| 20:42.08 | Zoo | REading is Power ;) |
| 20:42.26 | josepho | sniperjo: "/var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst: line 149: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory" |
| 20:42.29 | Zoo | you don't have to ask much.. you just know ;) |
| 20:42.48 | mtnman | sniperjo: did you create the file as i suggested? |
| 20:43.10 | josepho | mtnman: you know that should not need to be necessary |
| 20:43.25 | mtnman | josepho: "should not" is nice, but this is reality |
| 20:43.32 | josepho | heh |
| 20:43.39 | Akrame | josepho , thank you , i found that inetd , i'll remove /etc/init.d/inetd are you agree ? |
| 20:43.41 | josepho | I installed ~ 230 samba servers without a single prob |
| 20:43.46 | eka | how to make all my sound apps to work at the same time? |
| 20:43.48 | josepho | Akrame: no |
| 20:43.53 | Akrame | josepho WHY ? |
| 20:43.54 | josepho | Akrame: uncomment the entry from inetd |
| 20:44.00 | Akrame | ok |
| 20:44.02 | Akrame | thx |
| 20:44.02 | Zoo | put it like this |
| 20:44.05 | Akrame | which inetd ? |
| 20:44.06 | josepho | Akrame: or use update-inetd (better) |
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| 20:44.11 | mtnman | sniperjo: now it is complaining about a different file. try to touch that one and rerun. |
| 20:44.18 | Zoo | your solution |
| 20:44.46 | josepho | Akrame: /etc/inetd.conf |
| 20:44.53 | Zoo | you take.. VMware, so you can use TechSmith Camtasia, and record your actions whether you want to use full window.. or windows, and then you can show people how to use debian.. etc.. compile from source..e tc :) |
| 20:44.53 | Puiu | When I boot, debian tells me eth0 link is down...and when I get a terminal..I type dhclient ath0, and my wireless works then....how can I have debian automatically do dhclient ath0 once eth0 fails.(at boot time) |
| 20:44.55 | josepho | vi that file |
| 20:44.57 | josepho | :) |
| 20:45.09 | mtnman | puiu: man interfaces |
| 20:45.13 | Puiu | thanks mtnman |
| 20:45.14 | josepho | Zoo: we do that at the company |
| 20:45.20 | mtnman | puiu: welcome. |
| 20:45.26 | Akrame | yay it's ok i modified /etc/inetd.conf |
| 20:45.27 | Zoo | I do that at Robert Morris College. and my Business |
| 20:45.28 | Akrame | i have to reboot now |
| 20:45.32 | josepho | Akrame: no |
| 20:45.35 | josepho | Akrame: just reload inetd |
| 20:45.41 | Zoo | People do that World Wide josepho ;) |
| 20:45.56 | Zoo | thats cool joseph |
| 20:45.58 | Zoo | ;) |
| 20:46.01 | sniperjo | whay !! it istalled thanks |
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| 20:46.02 | josepho | Zoo: whax is known for that :D |
| 20:46.13 | Zoo | I go through full screen server installs.. and all kinds of things :) |
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| 20:46.22 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:46.34 | sniperjo | mtnman: but it did not create the config file.. |
| 20:46.43 | Akrame | josepho that's what i did , thanks |
| 20:46.44 | josepho | we used vmware for developing our disaster recovery solution |
| 20:46.53 | Zoo | hahaha |
| 20:46.59 | mtnman | sniperjo: it should create an _empty_ file if you touch a non-existing file. |
| 20:47.00 | SnuS | how can I make debian NOT load usb/usbcore/etc on startup ? |
| 20:47.00 | Zoo | theres win4lin as well |
| 20:47.02 | Zoo | I have that as well |
| 20:47.13 | Zoo | vmware workstation.. esx.. gsx.. virtual station. etc |
| 20:47.27 | josepho | SnuS: not load? blacklist that module |
| 20:47.28 | sniperjo | I made it touch samba password |
| 20:47.36 | SnuS | josepho how ? |
| 20:47.42 | josepho | SnuS: or disable hotplug on init... |
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| 20:47.55 | josepho | (or usbmgr if you have installed it) |
| 20:47.55 | Zoo | the Virtual Center etc ** |
| 20:48.04 | josepho | vmware 4.5 is free :D |
| 20:48.05 | Akrame | josepho thank you alot |
| 20:48.08 | Zoo | the ace as well |
| 20:48.12 | josepho | Akrame: you are welcome |
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| 20:48.15 | Zoo | sounds and all :D |
| 20:48.30 | Zoo | my neck itches. .going to shave |
| 20:48.40 | josepho | anyways, off for some shell scripting tests |
| 20:48.44 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:48.49 | Zoo | reading is power isn't it ;) |
| 20:49.02 | josepho | Zoo: do LPIC-2 cert :P |
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| 20:49.18 | harleyg | hey |
| 20:49.19 | mhall | josepho: free? |
| 20:49.20 | Zoo | I do what I Have to do. and desire :) |
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| 20:49.37 | harleyg | anyone know a quick way to get x working easyily... like a config file i can use? |
| 20:49.45 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:49.45 | josepho | mhall: yep |
| 20:49.53 | Zoo | hi mhall :) |
| 20:49.56 | josepho | mhall: was at some computermagazine here |
| 20:49.57 | josepho | c't |
| 20:50.05 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:50.06 | mhall | josepho: Ah. Das ist ja cool! |
| 20:50.11 | mhall | Zoo: yoyo |
| 20:50.12 | sussudio | nein |
| 20:50.14 | josepho | mhall: english only :P |
| 20:50.24 | Zoo | yes there all kinds of virtual machine emulators ;) |
| 20:50.39 | josepho | vmware is one of the best though |
| 20:50.49 | mhall | josepho: :-/ |
| 20:50.50 | Zoo | vmware, win4lin, microsoft virtual pc lmfao.. mac virtual pc lol |
| 20:50.53 | josepho | I like the snapshot feature... |
| 20:51.01 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:51.05 | josepho | useful for testing crazy things ;) |
| 20:51.06 | Zoo | don't ya though :) |
| 20:51.14 | josepho | like rm -rf / :P |
| 20:51.17 | Zoo | isn't TechSmith Camtasia just nice ! :D |
| 20:51.21 | mhall | josepho: lol |
| 20:51.25 | Zoo | 3.0 is so nice :) |
| 20:51.58 | josepho | or replacing glibc with a experimental one ;) |
| 20:52.05 | Zoo | ;) |
| 20:52.23 | mhall | josepho: My funniest UNIX mishap was the time I accidentally caused SunOS 4.x.x with OpenWindows to move its own directory into /tmp by misclicking that goofy Sun optical mouse. |
| 20:52.36 | mhall | josepho: It was a spectacurlarly beautiful crash. |
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| 20:52.43 | josepho | well, clicking ... you know |
| 20:52.43 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:52.48 | Zoo | josepho |
| 20:53.10 | Zoo | have you tried PC BSD yet? |
| 20:53.26 | josepho | Zoo: our HA company firewall is on OpenBSD |
| 20:53.31 | Zoo | ic |
| 20:53.34 | Zoo | hey m8 |
| 20:53.44 | Zoo | do you know how to configure pc bsd to keyboard layout? |
| 20:53.51 | josepho | doh |
| 20:53.51 | Zoo | :| |
| 20:53.54 | josepho | read the docs ;) |
| 20:53.57 | Zoo | hahahaha |
| 20:54.03 | Zoo | I put it on what I Thought though! |
| 20:54.08 | Zoo | FreeSBIE was a blast ! :D |
| 20:54.37 | bbrazil | mhall: 20 mins cpu time on an e450 to load his key :) |
| 20:54.38 | josepho | Zoo: go away or I will replace you with a (very small) shell script :P |
| 20:54.46 | Zoo | however.. I am going work on setting up Flash Drives ! :D |
| 20:54.47 | josepho | just kidding ;) |
| 20:54.56 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:54.59 | Zoo | tyvm |
| 20:55.04 | Zoo | so what you into bud |
| 20:55.23 | mhall | bbrazil: OMGWTFBBQ |
| 20:55.25 | Zoo | I havn't been into the open source for like.. years.. just year and 1/2 .. dont' really know a whole lot. but oh well. PHLAK is nice! :D |
| 20:55.25 | Akrame | does anyone know an easy and simple ftp server ? |
| 20:55.37 | josepho | Akrame: vsftpd |
| 20:55.44 | josepho | easy? hmm well ... maybe :) |
| 20:55.53 | Zoo | haha |
| 20:55.53 | Akrame | thank you |
| 20:55.54 | Akrame | :p |
| 20:56.00 | Zoo | haha |
| 20:56.07 | josepho | vsftpd: very secure ftpd |
| 20:56.08 | josepho | :D |
| 20:56.13 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:56.16 | Zoo | sftp? |
| 20:56.18 | mhall | Zoo: but 1.5 Zoo years is about 3 regular years :-) |
| 20:56.19 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:56.26 | josepho | Akrame: just dont go for wu-ftpd |
| 20:56.32 | Zoo | I am into it all ! :D |
| 20:56.33 | josepho | (known for its bad security history) |
| 20:56.49 | josepho | a lot of ppl enjoy proftpd |
| 20:56.56 | mhall | Akrame: yeah the key to vsftpd is a good conf file |
| 20:57.00 | abrotman | antgel: you hate us ? |
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| 20:57.07 | Zoo | :O |
| 20:57.09 | josepho | mhall: which can be created within seconds |
| 20:57.24 | mhall | Akrame: it's used by some very large sites such as kernel.org |
| 20:57.36 | mhall | josepho: yes it's a little tricky if you try to enable ssl though |
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| 20:57.47 | mhall | josepho: some of the settings don't work like they are supposed to |
| 20:57.47 | josepho | debiansec.org or debiansec.com or whatever it was has a good tut on it |
| 20:57.56 | JerJer | i must have missed something - Why is it that all of my debian installs never update the window title of my terminal? |
| 20:57.57 | josepho | mhall: they do :) |
| 20:57.58 | Zoo | :O |
| 20:57.59 | mhall | josepho: eventially i'm planning to dl the source and debug it |
| 20:58.06 | antgel | abrotman: i'm very confused |
| 20:58.09 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:58.15 | abrotman | antgel: you quit the other channel :) |
| 20:58.22 | Zoo | hee |
| 20:58.32 | Zoo | :) |
| 20:58.33 | josepho | mhall: we are using vsftpd since some 0.5 release without ANY probs |
| 20:58.36 | antgel | abrotman: yeah. too many open in irssi. i'm going for all that simplicity stuff |
| 20:58.44 | abrotman | *sniff* |
| 20:58.50 | Zoo | hahaha |
| 20:58.55 | mhall | damn, i want to go make out with my hot friend but she's not around |
| 20:58.55 | Zoo | snort sniff! :D |
| 20:59.03 | Zoo | hahaha |
| 20:59.04 | gravity | ... |
| 20:59.06 | mhall | josepho: SSL enabled? |
| 20:59.13 | josepho | mhall: of course |
| 20:59.15 | Zoo | LOL @ u mhall |
| 20:59.24 | mhall | josepho: i must not have done it right |
| 20:59.29 | Zoo | so many hot girls was out last nite.. I got date with 1 ! :D |
| 20:59.39 | josepho | heh |
| 20:59.42 | antgel | abrotman: no need to go to the drugs. anyway this looks like d-o anyway! |
| 20:59.42 | Zoo | hee :) |
| 20:59.45 | josepho | hot and nasty girls you mean :P |
| 20:59.48 | Zoo | got a kiss too ! :D |
| 20:59.48 | mhall | josepho: can you send me your conf? |
| 20:59.52 | Zoo | nope.. classy ;) |
| 21:00.06 | Zoo | I'm not a slut :) |
| 21:00.07 | mhall | Zoo: yeah one of my friends set me up with a nice geek girl |
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| 21:00.07 | josepho | mhall: I dont have access to it currently |
| 21:00.13 | Zoo | lol |
| 21:00.16 | mhall | josepho: aww damn |
| 21:00.20 | Zoo | not geek girl :) |
| 21:00.33 | Zoo | I bet you could go for 1 of those sophisticated ones :) |
| 21:00.35 | josepho | geek girls are sometimes cute too :) |
| 21:00.41 | Zoo | :) |
| 21:00.46 | Zoo | with the glasses and all? |
| 21:00.47 | mhall | this one is more of an english geek |
| 21:00.51 | josepho | glasses? |
| 21:00.53 | mhall | oh yeah, hot glasses for sure |
| 21:00.56 | [Cadet] | /usr/bin/girl ? |
| 21:01.10 | Zoo | hee |
| 21:01.13 | Zoo | lmfao |
| 21:01.25 | Zoo | you know. the sophisticated look ;) |
| 21:01.29 | josepho | [Cadet]: yep its a symlink to /bin/false |
| 21:01.32 | mhall | [Cadet]: the only downside to this one my friend set me up with is |
| 21:01.41 | mhall | [Cadet]: she's more of a shared library |
| 21:01.42 | [Cadet] | josepho: I know |
| 21:01.51 | [Cadet] | ewww |
| 21:01.52 | mhall | [Cadet]: she shows up with a whole bunch of different executables |
| 21:01.53 | Zoo | hee |
| 21:02.05 | mhall | [Cadet]: yeah i know it's a pain in the ass |
| 21:02.13 | abrotman | antgel: i can help! |
| 21:02.22 | mhall | [Cadet]: but when you're in my position if you set your standards too high you are SOL |
| 21:02.47 | josepho | mhall: depends upon what base you set your standards |
| 21:03.01 | Zoo | oh I got a conversation started.. oops... : P |
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| 21:03.10 | mhall | josepho: i wish i had the source code then i could statically compile her and do a debug build |
| 21:03.12 | [Cadet] | mhall: Ya I guess that is why I have been stuck with the same one for 17 years |
| 21:03.13 | mhall | josepho: ;-) |
| 21:03.23 | mhall | [Cadet]: I'm in favor of that idea. |
| 21:03.29 | mhall | [Cadet]: I would do it if I could. |
| 21:03.40 | [Cadet] | It's not that bad |
| 21:03.41 | mhall | [Cadet]: The things preventing it are factos out of my control. |
| 21:03.47 | mhall | factors* |
| 21:04.00 | sniperjo | Hell1 ! I am having some troble writing a config for SAMBA |
| 21:04.13 | mhall | sniperjo: SWAT: Samba Web Admin Tool |
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| 21:04.19 | josepho | heh |
| 21:04.23 | sniperjo | mhal: is it good ? |
| 21:04.24 | josepho | swat? *vomits* |
| 21:04.25 | mhall | P8ntKid: the great inhaler returns |
| 21:04.29 | Zoo | k guys.. going to shave. and got stuff to do. and cool movie to watch.. |
| 21:04.32 | sniperjo | mhal: its not very secure? |
| 21:04.36 | mhall | sniperjo: it will get you up and running with a basic conf |
| 21:04.46 | mhall | sniperjo: it only listens on 127.0.0.1 and uses passwords |
| 21:04.48 | josepho | sniperjo: read the docs... |
| 21:04.49 | sniperjo | mhall: then I gota go uninstall it tho |
| 21:04.52 | sniperjo | ? |
| 21:05.00 | Zoo | anyone seen Kingdom of Heaven? |
| 21:05.00 | P8ntKid | mhall: Lol |
| 21:05.01 | mhall | sniperjo: i keep it running on my machine |
| 21:05.05 | mhall | P8ntKid: ;-) |
| 21:05.11 | mhall | well hell |
| 21:05.11 | sniperjo | josepho: oh I am there nw , but its not working :P |
| 21:05.19 | mhall | i'm gonna make like titties and bounce |
| 21:05.24 | Zoo | lol |
| 21:05.24 | josepho | there are basic examples which are known to work |
| 21:05.30 | mhall | i have to get to my dad's bday celebration here soon |
| 21:05.31 | josepho | work your way from there |
| 21:05.45 | sniperjo | mhall: hey I have just copyed 2 and iether worked |
| 21:05.46 | Zoo | cool |
| 21:05.58 | Zoo | hey you all take care |
| 21:06.00 | mhall | sniperjo: yeah samba conf files are a pain in the ass |
| 21:06.09 | josepho | Zoo: we wont but thanks anyways :P |
| 21:06.11 | mhall | sniperjo: swat seemed to work best for me |
| 21:06.16 | mhall | Zoo: yeah, cya dude |
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| 21:06.25 | mhall | josepho: </sarcasm> ;-) |
| 21:06.49 | Zoo | hee |
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| 21:06.53 | josepho | heh |
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| 21:06.54 | Zoo | don't bother me none :) |
| 21:07.01 | sniperjo | josehpo: I keep getting promted for a password but the basic configs don't set 1 |
| 21:07.10 | Zoo | I think josepho is a gag :) |
| 21:07.19 | josepho | no I am a bot |
| 21:07.20 | josepho | :P |
| 21:07.22 | Zoo | hahaha |
| 21:07.50 | sniperjo | josehpo: I keep getting promted for a password but the basic configs don't set 1 |
| 21:08.18 | strat | anyone know why when i set hdparm settings for cdrom../dev/hdc ..it dosent set it at boot..it says../dev/hdc..no such directory or device..it set up my hard drive fine../dev/hda...?? |
| 21:08.20 | Akrame | josepho i installed vsftp i configured it |
| 21:08.23 | josepho | ... off for shell scripting practises ... |
| 21:08.27 | Akrame | but i can't connect with my username :/ |
| 21:08.39 | Akrame | it says : login incorrect even if i type the correct password |
| 21:08.47 | sniperjo | josehpo: I keep getting promted for a password but the basic configs don't set 1 |
| 21:08.49 | Zoo | peeps |
| 21:08.54 | Zoo | oh hey mhall |
| 21:09.02 | Akrame | o.o |
| 21:09.06 | bbrazil | strat: you doing scsi-emulation and the module sin't loaded before hdparam runs? |
| 21:09.08 | Zoo | got some good news :) |
| 21:09.10 | sniperjo | josepho: I keep getting promted for a password but the basic configs don't set 1 |
| 21:09.22 | josepho | gosh I am not the only one here :) |
| 21:09.24 | josepho | away now :D |
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| 21:10.59 | strat | no..just setting my dma on /dev/hdc.. |
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| 21:12.24 | bbrazil | strat: that doesn't answer my question |
| 21:12.53 | bbrazil | strat: are you using udev or devfs? is your cd-rom IDE? |
| 21:13.26 | strat | dont think im doing any scsi emulation..just built in cd/dvd -rom in laptop.. |
| 21:14.49 | bbrazil | strat: have you checked dmesg output after booting? |
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| 21:15.28 | FlimFlamMan | let me ask a crazy question. is there any way a dirty tapehead on a tape drive attached to an adaptec 3960d controller could confuse the controller into taking another RAID volume off-line?? |
| 21:16.29 | adii | is there something worth to be known about wireless thingies ? |
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| 21:16.46 | sussudio | adii: detachable penises? |
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| 21:16.57 | adii | lol |
| 21:17.12 | adii | i forgot it was a pervert channel |
| 21:17.26 | sussudio | adii: you're the one who started about thingies. |
| 21:17.34 | adii | okok my bad |
| 21:17.45 | adii | let's start all over again |
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| 21:18.22 | adii | are there things worth to be known about wireless software/hardware on debian ? |
| 21:18.31 | bbrazil | FlimFlamMan: badly written drivers? |
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| 21:18.46 | adii | cos i have a broadcom card which is detected in lspci but i can't have it working |
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| 21:19.19 | _SerhaT_ | adii: I have internal wireless card from broadcom.. I got it working using ndiswrapper.. tried that? |
| 21:19.37 | l0tik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:20.02 | adii | _SerhaT_, nop : the prob is that i ain't connected to internet so i have to stock everything on an usb key to transfert it . (you know, i'm using my neighbor's connection atm ^^) |
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| 21:20.15 | outlaw84 | Anyone in here that is using AMD64? |
| 21:20.56 | adii | _SerhaT_, what is exactly ndiswrapper ? a module ? a software ? |
| 21:21.06 | _SerhaT_ | module.. |
| 21:21.11 | _SerhaT_ | you can easily apt-get it though heh |
| 21:21.31 | Starfury^ | everything working fine then all of a sudden after a while the system loses the ability to do anything with dns and as soon as a dns resolve is requested all connectivity and protocols go down, a ifdown works but an ifup fails to find a dhcp offer |
| 21:21.57 | Starfury^ | running sid..., OS or nic? |
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| 21:24.03 | rohal | each time i run apt-get i have to export http_proxy......where should i add them so that apt-get autodetects it??? |
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| 21:24.24 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 21:24.24 | dpkg | i heard amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 21:24.38 | bbrazil | roque: /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 21:24.48 | Starfury^ | ta |
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| 21:25.10 | pem3v78 | is it possible to protect ssh with some hardware ? |
| 21:25.24 | bbrazil | pem3v78: ? |
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| 21:25.58 | dondelelcaro | pem3v78: in what sense? |
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| 21:26.11 | pem3v78 | like a token device |
| 21:26.23 | pem3v78 | client needs a token to connect to server |
| 21:26.26 | dondelelcaro | pem3v78: you can use hardware devices to authenticate |
| 21:26.29 | bbrazil | pem3v78: yes, I know people with that setup on debian |
| 21:26.49 | dondelelcaro | pem3v78: but that's just a function of your authentication setup, and doesn't really have much to do with sshd. |
| 21:27.08 | pem3v78 | than pam maybe ? |
| 21:27.29 | outlaw84 | list 64 |
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| 21:27.42 | bbrazil | pem3v78: yes, pam |
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| 21:28.26 | Inchabod | !mount |
| 21:28.27 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 21:28.31 | Inchabod | !mount hdb1 |
| 21:28.33 | Inchabod | !mount hd |
| 21:28.38 | dondelelcaro | Inchabod: just ask your question. |
| 21:28.43 | Inchabod | I forget |
| 21:28.48 | Inchabod | It's for mounting slave. |
| 21:28.56 | Inchabod | !mount slave |
| 21:29.05 | dondelelcaro | so mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/foo; or similar. |
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| 21:29.18 | Inchabod | i'm not that stupid :P |
| 21:29.21 | Inchabod | it's something else |
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| 21:29.35 | dpower | hah |
| 21:29.49 | Inchabod | !mount /dev/hdb1 |
| 21:30.00 | Inchabod | It had other params |
| 21:30.04 | mark | mark@debian:~$ sudo kappfinder |
| 21:30.04 | mark | mark is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
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| 21:30.15 | mark | I amgetting the following error. anyone know how tofix it? |
| 21:30.22 | mark | mark@debian:~$ sudo kappfinder |
| 21:30.22 | mark | mark is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
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| 21:31.00 | bbrazil | mark: sudo -l is anything output? |
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| 21:31.42 | Trenton` | !mount /dev/hdb1 |
| 21:31.54 | mark | Well, that didn't paste clearly. How do I add a user to the sudo authorized list? |
| 21:31.55 | dondelelcaro | Trenton`: uh, those are the only parameters you need. Stop trying to trigger the bot. |
| 21:32.02 | Trenton` | Not really |
| 21:32.03 | Trenton` | ;) |
| 21:32.10 | Trenton` | I need the bot to answer |
| 21:32.14 | Trenton` | because theres other parameters. |
| 21:32.19 | Trenton` | a lot more |
| 21:32.36 | dondelelcaro | Trenton`: why don't you tell us exactly what you're trying to do, and stop overusing enter? |
| 21:32.39 | bbrazil | mark: visudo (iirc) |
| 21:32.51 | dondelelcaro | mark: or just edit /etc/sudoers |
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| 21:33.00 | mark | sudo -l gives error: " Sorry, user mar may not run sudo on this localhost |
| 21:33.05 | omi | Which format is better mbox or Maildir |
| 21:33.11 | dondelelcaro | omi: depends |
| 21:33.14 | dpower | Trenton`: if you want to flood the bot then /msg dpkg |
| 21:33.25 | omi | less than 20 users but lots of email |
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| 21:33.44 | dondelelcaro | omi: for mailhosts maildir is probably better if you've got the inodes... |
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| 21:35.12 | omi | dondelelcaro, another question |
| 21:35.35 | omi | does Maildir have some sort of index on headers of received messages? |
| 21:35.51 | rohal | how to fix this error ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 21:35.55 | omi | so if I open pine or mutt or whatever other program it will not read through 20000 messages |
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| 21:36.12 | sett[x] | anyone got xmms-scrobbler for sarge? |
| 21:36.20 | valdyn | omi: mutt has its own header cache system |
| 21:36.21 | omi | you need to find the key for the server and do apt-key add |
| 21:36.26 | thc | rohal: /msg dpkg marillat key |
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| 21:36.59 | dondelelcaro | omi: no, but mutt and pine can do that. |
| 21:37.08 | rohal | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.11 | dondelelcaro | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 21:37.15 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 21:37.32 | omi | I must have missed out on some config becasue they both reopen every message |
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| 21:37.51 | dondelelcaro | omi: mutt does unless you're using muttng or similar with the header configuration. |
| 21:37.53 | omi | I do not want to wait for a minute before accessing my mail |
| 21:38.03 | sett[x] | anyone got xmms-scrobbler for sarge? google but have nothing good |
| 21:38.07 | dondelelcaro | omi: however, you really need to start archiving your mail if you've got mailboxes with 20000 messages in them. |
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| 21:38.20 | rohal | thc: & form where can i get the publick key for such sites?? |
| 21:38.31 | mark | dondelelcaro: If I edit the /etc/sudoers file, what lineshouldbe added? |
| 21:38.42 | Trenton` | Ok heres my question someone they did !mount (some stuff to the bot) and it displayed a really long line of data which is what I needed. |
| 21:38.49 | dondelelcaro | mark: something like mark ALL = (ALL) ALL; or whatever you're trying to do. |
| 21:38.54 | Trenton` | For allowed a mounted hard drive be accessed from any other user besides root |
| 21:38.59 | Trenton` | ntfs |
| 21:39.04 | dondelelcaro | !ntfsro |
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| 21:39.07 | Trenton` | oo |
| 21:39.08 | Trenton` | I found it |
| 21:39.10 | Trenton` | !mount ntfs |
| 21:39.11 | dpkg | mounting NTFS is `mount -t ntfs -o uid=<uid>,gid=<gid>,umask=003 /dev/<ntfs partition> /<mount point>' or adding '/dev/<ntfs partition> /<mount point> ntfs uid=<uid>,gid=<gid>,defaults,umask=003 0 0' to your /etc/fstab |
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| 21:39.31 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: ntfsro is <reply> see ro-ntfs |
| 21:39.31 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
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| 21:39.56 | omi | dondelelcaro, how do I set archiving in postfix? |
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| 21:40.07 | mark | dondelelcaro: I added that line and got a "syntax error" can you paste in what your line says? |
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| 21:40.46 | dondelelcaro | mark: mark ALL=(ALL) ALL\n works just fine here. |
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| 21:41.05 | Trenton` | Ohmm, How come my taskbar just disappeared >.< |
| 21:41.08 | Trenton` | I must've mounted the wrong hd |
| 21:41.09 | Trenton` | lol |
| 21:41.26 | dondelelcaro | omi: you don't; set up a cronjob to run archivemail or similar. |
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| 21:42.05 | omi | dondelelcaro, does it work for mbox or Maildir |
| 21:42.16 | dondelelcaro | omi: FE, I currently run the following: mkdir -p ~/Mail/archives/`date -d '4 months ago' +'\%Y'`; archivemail --quiet -D`date -d '3 months ago' +'\%Y-\%m-1'` -o ~/Mail/archives/`date -d '4 months ago' +'\%Y'` -s_`date -d '4 months ago' +'\%Y_\%m_\%B'` ~/Maildir/Inbox |
| 21:42.25 | dondelelcaro | omi: either or; it saves them as mbox though. |
| 21:42.35 | strat | ok..had 3 problems with deb..3rd with hdparm worke that out..1st problem is the nvidia driver is causing problem when i shut down or restart or log out..about half the time my screen gets al messed up like the refresh rate is way off..and have to turn of power..other times it will log out and scrren will be black and it dosent shut down..if i set x to use nv driver it dosent do it..any one with same problem with nvidia drivers?? |
| 21:42.41 | omi | ok |
| 21:42.41 | dondelelcaro | omi: since you presumably won't be reading archived mail that often, it's generally best. |
| 21:42.59 | antgel | mad stuff happening here. tried to create a new dos filesystem on usb memory stick. mkdosfs /dev/sda1 drove machine nuts. swap (usually 15%ish) is at 50%. no responsiveness. now, responsiveness is back. mkdosfs still hasn't terminated. ps reveals the process is in D , as are spawned pdflushes. mkdosfs is taking up 60% of memory. do i leave it or bail? |
| 21:43.12 | Trenton` | How do I restart from hotkeys? |
| 21:43.15 | Trenton` | I mounted wrong hd |
| 21:43.23 | antgel | (the mem stick is 1GB capacity, my real ram is 512MB as is my swap) |
| 21:43.39 | mark | dondelelcaro: I added what you sent, now I get "parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 15" |
| 21:43.55 | dondelelcaro | mark: did you enter a trailing newline? |
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| 21:44.39 | omi | dondelelcaro, how can I set up imap so that it would be able to show all messages? would it need to setup a different mailbox such as Archives and then have current INBOX ? |
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| 21:45.23 | dondelelcaro | omi: why bother? easier just to archive the mail on the server (or locally) and only check it out when you need to see what messages you sent ages ago |
| 21:45.40 | mark | dondelelcaro: Ok. Don't know what that is? do you mean the "/n" ? |
| 21:45.47 | dondelelcaro | mark: \n |
| 21:46.05 | dondelelcaro | mark: just make sure you've got a newline (ie, press enter) on the last line. |
| 21:46.11 | newbie | anyone have a good book mark for uninstalling and reinstalling a sound card driver "ubuntu" |
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| 21:46.41 | omi | dondelelcaro, well the people here frequently look at emails as back as half a year ago, sometimes more and I'd like also to have a webinterface set up with good search ability |
| 21:46.43 | gravity | newbie: As in #ubuntu. Not here. |
| 21:46.47 | dpower | newbie: /join #unbuntu |
| 21:46.53 | dpower | #ubuntu* |
| 21:47.00 | antgel | newbie: #ubuntu unless you're a troll, in which case you know what to do. |
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| 21:47.06 | newbie | well you guys have now responded more than they did |
| 21:47.19 | dpower | because they are assholes in that channel |
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| 21:47.50 | marculix | Since I upgraded my PowerBook to sarge, I have always two 'atd' jobs running after booting my notebook - I have /etc/rc2.d/S89atd which is imho usual for starting atd when entering to the default runlevel. Any idea why I have two atd procs running? |
| 21:47.53 | dondelelcaro | omi: sure, I do it all the time, but it's generally easier just to run zgrep over the compressed mailboxes, and then just open the proper one in mutt. |
| 21:48.02 | newbie | it worked until i pushed the hard mute button |
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| 21:48.26 | dondelelcaro | omi: in any case, a decent web client should be able to access the compressed mailboxes, and you can probably uncompress them if you need to feed them to an imap client. |
| 21:48.41 | omi | dondelelcaro, the people I work with will not do that, they need either webfrontend or gui :( |
| 21:48.52 | omi | dondelelcaro, but I'm happy with pine/mutt |
| 21:49.11 | mark | dondelelcaro: That just doesn't work at all.no difference. I am sure it is a typing error. My Linesays "Mark ALL=(ALL) ALL" thn drops down a line and says "\n" |
| 21:49.15 | dondelelcaro | omi: well, this is really a suggestion for you; if they can't handle managing their own e-mail, they can deal with it being slightly slow. |
| 21:49.28 | omi | Which web front end for email can go through compressed mboxes? |
| 21:49.31 | dondelelcaro | mark: not a literal '\n'... \n means "newline" |
| 21:49.42 | dondelelcaro | mark: aka, press return. |
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| 21:50.21 | newbie | thanx anyway |
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| 21:50.25 | strat | 2nd deb problem is with wireless..when i boot up theres a 50/50 chance that when it gets to part about if spoofing..it gives a eror code on seting ESSID..then it cant times out on discover..but if i shut it down and restart ..it will be fine..??? |
| 21:50.34 | mark | dondelelcaro: yep.tried that too. Thanks,though. |
| 21:50.38 | l0tik | is there a kernel-source-2.6.8 package? |
| 21:50.50 | cemm | hi, ihave 7cd images of debian sarge, how can i combine this iso's to write them'all to a single dvd ? |
| 21:51.01 | _rene_ | yes. in sarge. sid doesn't have 2.6.8 anymore |
| 21:51.07 | omi | there's a DVD |
| 21:51.22 | _rene_ | and kernel-image is now linux-image anyway in sid/etch |
| 21:51.23 | cemm | omi : ive no fast net connection to download dvd. |
| 21:51.33 | l0tik | i'm guessing it 2.6.12 for sid? |
| 21:51.53 | _rene_ | sid has 2.6.14 as of today (and 2.6.12) |
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| 21:52.18 | mark | dondelelcaro: apparently I am acomplete idiot! got it working fine now. thanks! |
| 21:52.39 | strat | ive been trying to install testing version..but every daily build i use errors out when it comes to installing initrd tools.. |
| 21:52.41 | nocxium | _rene_: right! |
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| 21:53.07 | l0tik | _rene_: is source on mirrors for 14 already? |
| 21:53.30 | _rene_ | l0tik: the mirror push runs currently. look on your mirror whether it already has it ;-) |
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| 21:56.18 | omi | cemm, do you want to just copy the .isos to a dvd or copy their content? |
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| 21:57.18 | MickMcMack | -_-; |
| 21:57.58 | P_Kable | ou sont les francais ? |
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| 21:59.58 | x3c | my isp currently blocks outgoing port 25 unless using their own outgoing mail server, i currently have a remote dedicated server running fedora, etc, and i can not use my own smtp outgoing due to this fact. What im wondering is, is it possible to set up a subdomain such as smtp.domainnamehere.com on a random port, and have it forward to port 25 once it gets past my isp to my server ? |
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| 22:00.48 | flogiston_ | I had put one soundcard into my computer ran alsaconf and used it. But when i took it out and wanted to use my intergrated sound alsaconf wouldn't run. I have alsa-utils installed. |
| 22:01.00 | MickMcMack | Hi, in VMWare, I put my CD in, but VMWare refuses to boot from it - it doesn't even look at it. |
| 22:01.22 | bbrazil | x3c: yes, you want DNAT |
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| 22:01.32 | dli | flogiston_, is the integrated card in lspci? |
| 22:01.35 | bbrazil | x3c: I personally reccomend shorewall |
| 22:01.50 | flogiston_ | Its intergrated to my motherboard. |
| 22:01.51 | scruffy | x3c: you can use ssh to tunnel 25 to your server. ssh -f -L 8025:localhost:25 yourserver sleep 20 |
| 22:02.02 | scruffy | x3c: see the man page. |
| 22:02.09 | x3c | my head hurts... |
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| 22:02.31 | Coweater | MickMcMack: you may need to configure vmware for the appropriate device |
| 22:02.40 | MickMcMack | It is pointing at /dev/cdrom |
| 22:02.40 | x3c | dnat, shorewall, ssh tunneling :P --- reguarding the ssh tunneling -- would that be a viable perminate solution ? |
| 22:02.52 | MickMcMack | Coweater, which I know is the right device. |
| 22:02.54 | kingsley_ | How does one configure sane or a scanner to adequately sense certain colors, like grenn, for example? |
| 22:03.03 | bbrazil | x3c: yes, but it'd take a bit of work |
| 22:03.06 | scruffy | x3c: sure, entirely capable |
| 22:03.09 | flogiston_ | dli. ran lspci and there it whas. |
| 22:03.53 | x3c | ok first off, im 98% new at this :D so im learning as i go, which would be the solution that has the least chance of messing something up :D |
| 22:03.57 | scruffy | x3c: as in, starting the listening process and having his MUA connect to localhost:25 to send mail.. |
| 22:04.02 | P_Kable | ... |
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| 22:04.27 | scruffy | x3c: sorry, make that localhost:8025 |
| 22:04.38 | bbrazil | x3c: you could get the remote server to listen on more than one port |
| 22:04.58 | scruffy | even better |
| 22:05.58 | x3c | bbrazil how so ? that way the users that use the smtp server on it, and that does not have their isp filtering port 25, could use port 25, and the users whos cursed isp does block it, can use a different port |
| 22:06.07 | Coweater | michal_: that should be the right device assuming you only have one drive, my next guess would be to check permissions, maybe your user isn't in the cdrom group |
| 22:06.18 | Coweater | er MickMcMack |
| 22:06.25 | MickMcMack | Okies... |
| 22:06.38 | kingsley_ | s/grenn/green/ |
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| 22:06.58 | bbrazil | x3c: yip. which MTA are you using. exim? |
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| 22:07.19 | MickMcMack | Coweater, this user can access the CD through k3b, so I assume it must have access. |
| 22:07.45 | Coweater | sounds like a vmware problem then |
| 22:07.54 | x3c | bbrazil no idea |
| 22:08.09 | scruffy | x3c: on fedora it's likely sendmail |
| 22:08.10 | MickMcMack | :< |
| 22:09.05 | x3c | oh |
| 22:09.06 | x3c | qmail |
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| 22:09.11 | x3c | server came with qmail |
| 22:09.34 | x3c | i dont think its using sendmail, they installed qmail and qmail-smtpd |
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| 22:10.18 | megatronx | i would like to know if anyone here has ever record vinyl via audacity??? if yes, where can i change the input to line in to receive the music within audacity? |
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| 22:11.01 | megatronx | using debian... |
| 22:11.30 | scruffy | x3c: in any case, is your fedora server receiving mail from other mail servers (not just clients such as yourself)? |
| 22:12.02 | bbrazil | x3c: you're unlikey to get qmail support in here, and I'd doubt it can listen on more than one port. I suggest going down the firewall/redirect route |
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| 22:12.26 | MickMcMack | Totally random question: If I have my SATA drive that Debian boots off connected to one SATA controller - and I change it so it connects to the _other_ SATA controller, will Debian still boot normally? |
| 22:12.26 | Madkiss | Hi all. |
| 22:12.54 | Madkiss | If I want to shrink my linux-partition, but if I want the space to be freed at the beginning of the partition rather than at its end, what is a good way to achieve that? |
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| 22:13.00 | iamsthitha | hi |
| 22:13.04 | bbrazil | MickMcMack: probably not. pass a root= option |
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| 22:13.08 | iamsthitha | I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6 |
| 22:13.09 | x3c | scruffy not sure i understand the question, but i think this is the awnser your looking for, im trying to use the server for outgoing and incoming, its currently hosting my domain, and i dont want to use my isps out/in server, i want to use my domains, but my bloody isp is blocking port 25 for the out |
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| 22:13.22 | iamsthitha | but now many of my modules are not being loaded |
| 22:13.24 | MickMcMack | bbrazil, that meant nothing to me. :( |
| 22:13.28 | iamsthitha | how do I set them to autoload? |
| 22:13.31 | netsurf3 | what debian packages would be NEEDED to run some gtk apps and have a very basic gnome desktop (config tools inclueded but no things like totum) |
| 22:13.39 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: /etc/modules |
| 22:13.46 | MickMcMack | bbrazil, I am using GRUB as my bootloader, by the way. |
| 22:13.54 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, that didnt work.. they're already in there |
| 22:14.17 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: names could have changed, or they could be built in now |
| 22:14.27 | Baeaeken | Madkiss: Are both controllers made by the same manufacturer? |
| 22:14.36 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, well no.. I loaded it manually and it worked fine |
| 22:15.02 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, was that controller question aimed at me... ? -_- |
| 22:15.11 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: odd. sarge? |
| 22:15.14 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Ah, yeah. |
| 22:15.19 | Madkiss | Baeaeken: what? |
| 22:15.27 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, I believe so |
| 22:15.29 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Hate channels with many nicks. |
| 22:15.30 | scruffy | x3c: if you can configure your fedora's qmail to listen for relay connections on a port other than 25, it may work out. If not, there isn't another option other than using bbrazil's suggestion or the ssh tunnel. |
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| 22:15.36 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, no - one is an nforce4, one is sil. |
| 22:15.43 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:15.47 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, and yes, I feel your pain. :( |
| 22:15.52 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Well, then probably not. |
| 22:15.54 | Baeaeken | =P |
| 22:15.58 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, 3.1 |
| 22:16.05 | MickMcMack | Damnit. >____<;;; |
| 22:16.10 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Yeah :S |
| 22:16.19 | bbrazil | MickMcMack: if you switch their pci slots it'll probably just work. you need to keep hda the same |
| 22:16.23 | scruffy | x3c: just remember that qmail would need to listen on two different ports I think. 1 port (not 25) for your connections, and port 25 for other mail servers delivering mail to you. |
| 22:16.31 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Had some _real_ problems with my nforce4 controllers. |
| 22:16.36 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: sarge. I dunno, seems quite odd. |
| 22:16.40 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: No, sil. |
| 22:16.42 | MickMcMack | bbrazil, no PCI slots - borth SATA controllers are on the motherboard. |
| 22:16.51 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: The sil-controllers wouldn't workd :S |
| 22:16.58 | Baeaeken | Work* |
| 22:17.01 | bbrazil | MickMcMack: ah - it that case there might be a bios option to do similar |
| 22:17.07 | MickMcMack | And Windows refuses to work with nforce4. :'( |
| 22:17.13 | bbrazil | MickMcMack: althoguh grub can be fancy, I haven't used it |
| 22:17.15 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, then maybe I'm understanding the problem wrongly.. the error it gives is.. eth0 not found.. |
| 22:17.29 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, and I told it to load the module ne in /etc/modules |
| 22:17.49 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, that error is shown when booting up |
| 22:17.55 | Baeaeken | For me, sil wouldn't work in Debian, and nforce wouldn't work in windoze. |
| 22:18.00 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: that seems like the right problem diagnosis |
| 22:18.11 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, I have exactly the same problem. :) |
| 22:18.15 | Baeaeken | Solution: Skipped windoze completly ;) |
| 22:18.17 | iamsthitha | bbrazil, :\ |
| 22:18.18 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: ifup -a is probably giving that error |
| 22:18.23 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, would you know if this would work: Connect different HDD's to each controller? And would GRUB be able to tell which hdd to boot. |
| 22:18.40 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, sound refuses to work on my nvidia. >_<; |
| 22:18.45 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Took me quite some time before realisin' that the controller was the problem, installing Debian. |
| 22:19.07 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, do you have a DFI motherboard then? :O |
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| 22:19.18 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: check you have both modutils and module-init-tools installed |
| 22:19.33 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: I assume you used modprobe to load the module? |
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| 22:20.08 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Don't know. |
| 22:20.12 | iamsthithatoo | bbrazil, yep.. that was it |
| 22:20.16 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Maybe. |
| 22:20.16 | MickMcMack | Heh. :( |
| 22:20.16 | iamsthithatoo | bbrazil, I unloaded the module and it gave me the exact same error |
| 22:20.19 | bbrazil | iamsthitha: its a hack but add a pre-up line to your interfaces file to load the module. might do it |
| 22:20.24 | MickMcMack | This is a lose-lose situation. |
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| 22:20.46 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Might work since Grub loads using sil-controllers, but refuses to go elsewhere from there. |
| 22:20.56 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Haven't managed to get my sound working yet =P |
| 22:20.57 | x3c | bbrazil what about using iptables to forward data on a port to port 25, would that be a viable solution ? |
| 22:21.06 | MickMcMack | Ok, Imma try this. o/ |
| 22:21.14 | MickMcMack | Brb. |
| 22:21.16 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: Good luck =P |
| 22:21.17 | bbrazil | x3c: yip. add it to the prerouting table as a redirect IIRC |
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| 22:21.24 | MickMcMack | Thanks. :) |
| 22:21.28 | x3c | prerouting table ? |
| 22:21.32 | x3c | oi, so much to lern |
| 22:21.34 | x3c | er learn |
| 22:21.50 | Midi | i setup a bot, but it cant read/write files that moment that i logout of the shell. any idea as to what the prob may be? |
| 22:21.51 | bbrazil | x3c: and make sure you've got connection tracking loaded |
| 22:21.54 | nwo | Is there a command to power off/on your monitors. (So you don't need to push the hardware buttons) |
| 22:22.08 | x3c | bbrazil i dont even know what that is |
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| 22:22.26 | bbrazil | x3c: I suggest google |
| 22:22.56 | useruser | Midi: i dunno what you're talking about, but maybe nohup will help |
| 22:23.03 | useruser | Midi: and/or screen |
| 22:23.17 | Midi | ah maybe run screen adn then bot in the bkg? |
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| 22:24.03 | scruffy | x3c: can you ssh to your fedora machine? |
| 22:24.04 | bbrazil | x3c: netfilter.org should have all the ingo you need |
| 22:24.10 | Midi | would i need root to do nohup? |
| 22:24.14 | bbrazil | Midi: no |
| 22:24.35 | x3c | scruffy yes, telnet is disabled, ssh is the only way in |
| 22:24.48 | scruffy | x3c: are you currently on a Windows box? |
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| 22:24.58 | Midi | so the cause can be fixed by nohup? |
| 22:25.00 | x3c | my laptop ? yes, xp |
| 22:25.16 | scruffy | x3c: ... okay, ssh is probably out of the question then. |
| 22:25.20 | bbrazil | Midi: depends on what the cause is |
| 22:25.23 | x3c | i have an ssh client |
| 22:25.25 | x3c | putty |
| 22:25.29 | abrotman | !moo |
| 22:25.29 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 22:25.40 | Midi | i just know when i logout the bot cant read/write anymore..but as long as i'm logged in, its all good |
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| 22:25.42 | x3c | im logged into the server atm |
| 22:25.46 | scruffy | x3c: you may be able to use stunnel on Windows (google for stunnel) |
| 22:26.09 | bbrazil | Midi: is there automountong of any kind involved. what happens if you have two login sessions and logout on one? |
| 22:26.19 | scruffy | x3c: right, but putty can't forward connections like openssh can |
| 22:26.26 | bbrazil | scruffy: yes it can |
| 22:26.31 | scruffy | x3c: (as far as I know) |
| 22:26.34 | scruffy | bbrazil: ahh |
| 22:26.47 | Midi | i'll try that |
| 22:26.54 | scruffy | bbrazil, x3c: I have no clue how to do it with putty |
| 22:26.56 | x3c | i need to set it up server side so other domains can use the smtp server, which is why im currently looking at netfilter trying to figure out how to forward any data that comes onto a specific port in the server, to port 25 |
| 22:26.56 | Midi | i nkow this is some 'afs' space that we use and store stuff on |
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| 22:27.12 | bbrazil | scruffy: you could probably even manage to automate it. it supports profiles and the like with cmd line arguments |
| 22:27.36 | bbrazil | x3c: its only 1, maybe two iptables commands to do it |
| 22:27.58 | x3c | bbrazil trying to find out what they are lol |
| 22:28.04 | scruffy | bbrazil: all his clients that have retarded ISPs would have to implement it though. Your netfiler suggestion would likely be better |
| 22:28.08 | bbrazil | x3c: netflter.org |
| 22:28.13 | x3c | aye im there |
| 22:28.17 | x3c | looking around the site |
| 22:28.54 | bbrazil | x3c: I'm heading off now for a while |
| 22:29.12 | x3c | k cya, ty for the info |
| 22:29.12 | x3c | brb |
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| 22:30.13 | Midi | bbrazil: I logged in two times. The second time i logged in, i ran the bot, then logged out. The error persisted even though i was still logged in (from the first login) |
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| 22:30.23 | Hal|Celly | hi everyone ! |
| 22:30.25 | Hal|Celly | just a question: |
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| 22:30.41 | Hal|Celly | Celeron 466 Mhz (laptop), 128 Megs of SDRAM, 40 GB HDD |
| 22:30.47 | Hal|Celly | what DEbian shall i use ? :D |
| 22:31.05 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, no luck. :( |
| 22:31.11 | Hal|Celly | What's the best Debian-distro for this little laptop ? |
| 22:31.17 | MickMcMack | If I could get VMWARE to work - I wouldn't mind. |
| 22:31.36 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: =/ |
| 22:31.51 | MickMcMack | Baeaeken, but VMware refuses to read the CD, at all. :| |
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| 22:31.54 | flogiston_ | The latest with a lightweight wm. |
| 22:32.24 | Hal|Celly | IceWM or BlackBOx ? |
| 22:32.30 | Hal|Celly | WHat's your suggestion? :D |
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| 22:32.53 | Hal|Celly | I liiiiiiiiiiiike gnome, but I think that it would be a little bit heavy for that integrated 1 Meg video card :( |
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| 22:33.33 | piplined | Hal|Celly: Uh, integrated 1M video? Is it S3? |
| 22:35.20 | dli | piplined, it reminds the old intel 855 bug, 1 MB in linux |
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| 22:35.50 | piplined | dli: Well, that would be fine. The old Intel chipsets are fast enough to keep up, even if you're stuck in 8bit color |
| 22:35.58 | Midi | if a program cant write after i logout, is it correct to do: 'nohup (program) &' ? i tried that but it still cant read/write after i logout. |
| 22:36.01 | piplined | dli: S3 isn't going to be usable with X :P |
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| 22:36.11 | Hal|Celly | piplined : it's a NeoMagic Card |
| 22:36.18 | piplined | Hal|Celly: You're pretty screwed :P |
| 22:36.28 | Hal|Celly | It works well under DSL (DamnSmallLinux) |
| 22:36.29 | Hal|Celly | lol |
| 22:36.34 | scruffy | Hal|Celly: 1 MB video?! I'd think the upper end would be blackbox, but I have no idea. ion? |
| 22:36.37 | dli | piplined, I have an s3, ProSavage, still runs fine |
| 22:36.49 | Hal|Celly | this is a recycled system...I've better stuff here :D |
| 22:36.54 | piplined | dli: That's many steps up. Typically, laptops with that little VRAM will have trio64 or something. |
| 22:37.08 | Hal|Celly | I just want to fire up Linux in those 466 Mhz :D |
| 22:37.17 | Hal|Celly | NeoMagic ^_^ |
| 22:37.21 | piplined | Hal|Celly: Hah. If you're happy with the performance of DSL, you'll be fine. DSL uses framebuffer for X, which makes the graphics much slower than they have to be. |
| 22:37.22 | Baeaeken | MickMcMack: :S |
| 22:37.25 | scruffy | Hal|Celly: how about lwm or pwm? |
| 22:37.49 | dli | Hal|Celly, it's a big waste of electricity. I think you can buy something better for $200 |
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| 22:38.01 | Saint_George | hi |
| 22:38.05 | Saint_George | i installed sarge |
| 22:38.15 | Hal|Celly | never tried lwm or pwm :D |
| 22:38.20 | Hal|Celly | good choice ^_^ |
| 22:38.23 | dli | Hal|Celly, or you can buy some cheapest agp card for it |
| 22:38.24 | Hal|Celly | Sarge ROCKS |
| 22:38.29 | Hal|Celly | loool |
| 22:38.32 | Hal|Celly | it's a laptop |
| 22:38.33 | scruffy | Hal|Celly: join the club, I haven't either. :) |
| 22:38.53 | Hal|Celly | no problem at all if it was a case- system |
| 22:38.58 | Hal|Celly | but it's my ooold laptop ^_^ |
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| 22:39.20 | useruser | Hal|Celly: xfce is a nice light wm |
| 22:39.34 | scruffy | useruser: for 1 MB video? |
| 22:39.35 | Geekbr | debian in brazil is hard |
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| 22:39.47 | Spongebob | so, about the resolution? |
| 22:39.50 | Geekbr | hey he gone a big install fest |
| 22:39.52 | Geekbr | here |
| 22:39.54 | useruser | scruffy: surely if he can run X with 1mb, he can do whatever he wants |
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| 22:39.56 | Geekbr | so nice |
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| 22:40.10 | useruser | scruffy: i've never seen an app fail because of a lack of video memory once X is running |
| 22:40.11 | twixter | Hello, I am having some difficulties installing X on my installed today Debian 3.1 |
| 22:40.11 | Hal|Celly | dli : lol, I have two Athlon 64 X2 with 2 Gigs of RAM everyone and a Celeron 2800 overclocked to 4008 Mhz.....this machines already have the penguin and works well. But I recycled my old laptop and was wonderinf if putting it in my car would be a good idea....PENGUIN POWERED :D |
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| 22:40.26 | dli | Hal|Celly, one of my friends found an old thinkpad in a trashbin, 333MHz or something. it runs winXP |
| 22:40.32 | scruffy | useruser: ahh, I hadn't considered that |
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| 22:40.57 | scruffy | useruser: I doubt he'll be running something like gnome though. :D |
| 22:41.00 | Hal|Celly | dli : XP on a 33 Mhz ? |
| 22:41.02 | dli | Hal|Celly, in your car? then, consider the gas price |
| 22:41.03 | Hal|Celly | 333 |
| 22:41.07 | Hal|Celly | O.o |
| 22:41.15 | curt | php and apache2 ~ right channel to ask? |
| 22:41.30 | Hal|Celly | among all bad systems...the worst ! |
| 22:41.42 | Blissex | curt: #PhP and #web and #Apache too |
| 22:41.49 | Geekbr | someone runing debian at A64 ?? |
| 22:41.51 | curt | thank you |
| 22:41.52 | useruser | curt: #javascript, obviously :P |
| 22:42.01 | Hal|Celly | me :D |
| 22:42.11 | Spongebob | twixter> what problems do you have? |
| 22:42.11 | Hal|Celly | Geekbr : Debian Sarge 3.1 r0a |
| 22:42.15 | Blissex | curt: unless it is about PHP/Apache installation under Debian. |
| 22:42.15 | dli | Hal|Celly, wait for the end of the Bush Dynasty, then, you can put it in your car |
| 22:42.16 | Hal|Celly | runs great :D |
| 22:42.28 | Geekbr | Hal|Celly, nice ?? |
| 22:42.35 | Hal|Celly | Bush Dynasty ? |
| 22:42.36 | twixter | I have two graphics chips in my machine, and the Debian x-window-system installer is confused |
| 22:42.37 | Hal|Celly | why ? |
| 22:42.58 | dli | Hal|Celly, gas price might become reasonable one day |
| 22:42.59 | Blissex | twixter: you can configure them as dual headed as one server. |
| 22:43.01 | Geekbr | Hal|Cellym how much time to record a dvd ?? |
| 22:43.10 | SnuS | my eth0: TX packets:0 errors:22561 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:44125 , RX bytes:3763720 (3.5 MiB) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) |
| 22:43.10 | Geekbr | Hal|Celly, a full iso |
| 22:43.12 | twixter | It asks me for a bus address but how do I find out the address of my video card? |
| 22:43.17 | curt | Blissex, welkl it is but i'll ask over in php and apache first |
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| 22:43.23 | SnuS | yet, I am connected through that eth0 to that computer. transfering data, etc. what's wrong ? |
| 22:43.30 | MickMcMack | I seriously think Debian hates my DVD-drive. |
| 22:43.41 | piplined | twixter: Just hit enter. |
| 22:43.45 | dli | twixter, I think you can simple enter blank :) |
| 22:43.47 | Blissex | curt: well if it is about Debian packages this is a much better place. |
| 22:43.49 | twixter | i dont want to use the old 810 chip, i want to use my new NVidia geforce fx 5200 |
| 22:44.01 | Hal|Celly | xcdroast + cdrecord: about the same time on Windows at 8x |
| 22:44.05 | twixter | the 810 is on the motherboard, the nvidia is on my PCI bus |
| 22:44.14 | dli | MickMcMack, dvd-r or just dvd-rom? |
| 22:44.20 | Blissex | twixter: easy solution: disable the i810 in the BIOS. |
| 22:44.21 | MickMcMack | dli, just DVD-rom. |
| 22:44.37 | piplined | twixter: Only one can be the primary head at a time. If the nvidia card displays boot messages, then it is already the primary head and there's no problem here. |
| 22:44.48 | twixter | you mean disable it by pressing DEL during bootup? |
| 22:44.49 | MickMcMack | dli, k3b tells me there is no disc in the drive - and it is checking the right one, as I can hear the CD spinning up. |
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| 22:45.02 | MickMcMack | dli, and VMware refuses to boot from a CD in that drive. |
| 22:45.04 | dli | MickMcMack, oh, always thought dvd-rom doesn't even need a driver (because it works so easily) |
| 22:45.13 | twixter | well there is a problem because X wont run |
| 22:45.17 | dli | MickMcMack, oh, I don't know vmware |
| 22:45.33 | Spongebob | So, why KDE recognises only low res? how can i set it up in a human readable res? |
| 22:45.39 | twixter | the install script wants to know a bus address |
| 22:45.42 | MickMcMack | dli, DVD-rom doesn't need a driver. |
| 22:45.46 | dli | twixter, you may have to test bios settings :) |
| 22:45.46 | Blissex | twixter: yes, press DEL during boot, get into the menu and there is surely a nice option to disable the onboard graphics chip. |
| 22:45.57 | twixter | ok thanks for your help, i will try that |
| 22:45.58 | MickMcMack | dli, which is why I am so confused as to why it is being so annoying. |
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| 22:46.25 | Blissex | twixter: usually it is in a submenu called something like ''integrated peripherals''. |
| 22:46.58 | Hal|Celly | oops it was a 2 MB Video Card - sorry |
| 22:47.03 | dli | MickMcMack, reminds me the old days, when cd-roms needed drivers, and when those drivers were shipped on driver cds. |
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| 22:47.26 | MickMcMack | dli, the weirdest part is, I installed Debian off this very DVD-drive. |
| 22:47.29 | MickMcMack | xD |
| 22:47.31 | dli | MickMcMack, not cd-roms hate us, but because people hate each other :) |
| 22:47.37 | Hal|Celly | «Blissex» usually, when you put an AGP card in your system the integrated onboard video is AUTOMATICALLY disabled by the mainboard :D |
| 22:47.38 | MickMcMack | \o/ Too true. |
| 22:48.07 | dli | MickMcMack, no point then, after booting, the kernel drives up cd-rom |
| 22:48.33 | MickMcMack | Argggg. :( |
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| 22:48.41 | MickMcMack | This is getting frustrating. |
| 22:48.42 | Geekbr | MickMcMack , hueeee |
| 22:48.52 | x3c | scruffy u still here ? |
| 22:48.56 | dli | MickMcMack, try to boot with installation cd :) |
| 22:49.05 | Geekbr | im just reading |
| 22:49.07 | darkstego | hey all, I just installed the udev package and now modprobe no longer works |
| 22:49.08 | dli | MickMcMack, and have a look at "lsmod" |
| 22:49.09 | Geekbr | MickMcMack, hehe |
| 22:49.18 | P_Kable | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.22 | P_Kable | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.24 | darkstego | doesn't udev come with a the modprobe program? |
| 22:49.26 | P_Kable | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.30 | P_Kable | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:49.32 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 22:49.33 | scruffy | x3c: barely.. what's up? |
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| 22:49.44 | dli | MickMcMack, I usually do this, so I don't have to figure from "lspci", "lsmod" is the results indeed |
| 22:49.45 | lightbright | hi |
| 22:49.55 | x3c | is this command correct if i want to use iptables to forward data that comes in on port 25 to port 4025 ---- iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 4025 |
| 22:50.03 | scruffy | x3c: are you deep into the iptables docs? :) |
| 22:50.07 | MickMcMack | I can build a 16 bit processor from gate-level up, and I can't even get a damn CD to work in Linux. |
| 22:50.08 | MickMcMack | xD |
| 22:50.18 | x3c | very lol |
| 22:50.20 | x3c | giving me a headache |
| 22:50.22 | lightbright | when I try to load Konqueror, I receive this message: "Could not start process could not talk to klauncher." Is there a fix for this? |
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| 22:51.06 | dli | MickMcMack, I have another idea :) put the cd on another machine, use it through network |
| 22:51.12 | x3c | scruffy so is that correct |
| 22:51.15 | sylvisj | *sigh* Alright people, I'm on debian for good, even with my numerous antiviruses, half my windows partition was infected and I don't have a cd. |
| 22:51.21 | ezrafree | x3c: hsshldn't that be --to-port instead of --to-ports |
| 22:51.25 | ezrafree | *shouldn't |
| 22:51.37 | sylvisj | So... what programs are there to burn a .iso on debian? |
| 22:51.42 | scruffy | x3c: I knew it was going to be a long night for you with those. I've never done what bbrazil described, so you may have to check with #netfilter. |
| 22:51.49 | scruffy | x3c: so it what correct? |
| 22:51.56 | ezrafree | sylvisj: on what OS? linux? |
| 22:51.57 | x3c | ? |
| 22:52.00 | sylvisj | Debian. |
| 22:52.00 | dli | sylvisj, k3b |
| 22:52.01 | Supaplex | sylvisj: cdrecord, k3b, some others. /msg dpkg search |
| 22:52.04 | sylvisj | Thx, DLL |
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| 22:52.12 | sylvisj | THx Supa |
| 22:52.21 | sylvisj | God I'm glad I have 5mbit internet |
| 22:52.26 | x3c | k 1 sec checkin in netfilter |
| 22:52.29 | dli | sylvisj, I can see you are a windows guy, no dll in linux |
| 22:52.35 | sylvisj | I konw. |
| 22:52.36 | sylvisj | Know. |
| 22:52.39 | sylvisj | You rname, dll |
| 22:52.45 | ezrafree | that's dli :) |
| 22:52.53 | ezrafree | not dll hehe |
| 22:52.55 | sylvisj | ... I feel stupid. No more KVIRC for me. |
| 22:53.02 | nocxium | !seen LightVision |
| 22:53.03 | dpkg | lightvision <n=light@003.a.002lg.syd.iprimus.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 12d 20h 50m 32s ago, saying: 'bucky: great :)'. |
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| 22:53.28 | fede-G | hi i 'm looking for a program to record from my webcam |
| 22:53.28 | sylvisj | I'll probably be popping in here a LOT for help setting up things with wine, or getting cedega |
| 22:53.38 | lightbright | I receive this message: "Could not start process could not talk to klauncher." Is there a fix for this? |
| 22:53.41 | MickMcMack | ARG! :( |
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| 22:54.10 | x3c | OH i have it backward, rofl i need it to be: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 4025 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 25 |
| 22:55.20 | Inchabod | Does anyone know anything about oddcast? |
| 22:55.57 | MickMcMack | Geekbr, you have any ideas on any of my problems? :P |
| 22:56.17 | lightbright | !seen dondelelcaro |
| 22:56.18 | dpkg | dondelelcaro is currently on #debian (1d 22h 42m 19s) #debian-women (1d 22h 42m 19s) #debian-ops (1d 22h 42m 19s) #debian-bots (1d 22h 42m 19s) #hug-bunny (1d 22h 42m 19s). Has said a total of 63499 messages. Is idling for 1h 9m 18s |
| 22:56.54 | fede-G | can anyone help me???? |
| 22:56.55 | dli | lightbright, what about to use firefox, instead of konqueror |
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| 22:57.08 | darkstego | can someone tell me why the udev package ruins modprobe? |
| 22:58.06 | sylvisj | I got cdrecord, how do I burn an ISO with it? I'm looking through cdrecord help and not finding. |
| 22:58.10 | MickMcMack | Because they don't like each other - as I found out. |
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| 22:58.15 | scruffy | x3c: been a long time since I've messed with netfilter, but it looks right |
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| 22:58.28 | dli | sylvisj, I suggest you to use "k3b" |
| 22:58.42 | dli | sylvisj, apt-get install k3b |
| 22:58.50 | MickMcMack | k3b is evil. |
| 22:58.52 | Hal|Celly | wonderful, for burning |
| 22:58.54 | MickMcMack | CD's are evil. |
| 22:59.02 | MickMcMack | Disc's are EVIL. :( |
| 22:59.08 | x3c | hrm scruffy do u know what file they're written to, so if it messes it up i can undo it ? |
| 22:59.09 | Hal|Celly | no, k3b isn't evil. Discs....maybe :D |
| 22:59.17 | sylvisj | I tried, apt-get coudln't fetch a few files. |
| 22:59.27 | dli | sylvisj, apt-get update |
| 22:59.36 | Inchabod | Does anyone know anything about oddcast, or oddcastv3-jack? |
| 22:59.44 | lightbright | dli: i use Konqeror as a filemanager |
| 22:59.48 | scruffy | x3c: what file *what* logs to? iptables or qmail? |
| 22:59.52 | sylvisj | dli, thx. I'm trying with cdrecord. cdrecord filename.iso seems to have done it |
| 22:59.58 | x3c | iptables |
| 23:00.05 | dli | sylvisj, btw, do you have a super spyware cnsmin in your windows? |
| 23:00.09 | lightbright | dli: is there other filemanagers better than Konq? |
| 23:00.17 | sylvisj | dli, what? |
| 23:00.18 | x3c | so when i put in the redirect, if it does not work, i can remove it, just need to locate the file it writes to |
| 23:00.30 | dli | lightbright, I don't know :( nautilus |
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| 23:00.56 | sylvisj | dli, what do you mean? |
| 23:00.59 | dli | lightbright, I couldn't find an address bar in nautilus for me to type the location :( |
| 23:01.13 | scruffy | x3c: it probably won't log unless you add another duplicate rule with the target -j LOG above the target -j REDIRECT with the same parameters. |
| 23:01.21 | dli | sylvisj, type the command "apt-get update;apt-get -f install k3b" |
| 23:01.53 | scruffy | x3c: rather than doing that, I would monitor the mail.log (or maillog) instead to tell if it's working properly. |
| 23:01.59 | sylvisj | Thx dli. What did you mean by 'do I have a super spyware cnsmin in my windows'? |
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| 23:02.29 | dli | sylvisj, you mentioned virus in windows. what about cnsmin? it's in my windows now |
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| 23:02.46 | curt | ok iam coming back here as php and apache don't know anything about debian |
| 23:02.54 | scruffy | x3c: I'd consult #netfilter, too, because I'm a bit rusty on my iptables. |
| 23:02.55 | tuv | gdesklets has been very unstable since gnome got upgraded from 2.8 to 2.10. any similar experience? any explanation? |
| 23:02.56 | x3c | scruffy i'll just send an email to myself using the smtp server for the domain that'll tell me if its working |
| 23:03.01 | x3c | but i need to know how to remove it if it does not work |
| 23:03.05 | x3c | im in netfilter, no one is awake |
| 23:03.05 | sylvisj | I'm not sure what it is, I just know it was ripping apart my windows partition. It was definately a file infector, but even in safemode my AV couldn't touch it. |
| 23:03.12 | sylvisj | I'm about to blow my win partition off the HDD now. |
| 23:03.26 | curt | I installed apache2 and php but apache2 isn't processing the php code |
| 23:03.29 | sylvisj | With a friendly, neat fresh install of Debian. |
| 23:03.30 | mark | I have Debian "sarge," but would like to upgrade to "etch." is there an easy way to do this? |
| 23:03.42 | dondelelcaro | !stable->testing |
| 23:03.42 | curt | I installed the php4 module |
| 23:04.00 | curt | and uncommented the addtypes in the apache2.conf file |
| 23:04.00 | dli | sylvisj, nice, maybe I have to do the same |
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| 23:04.07 | curt | restarted and stil the same thing |
| 23:04.19 | dli | sylvisj, cnsmin can not be removed even in safe mode |
| 23:04.27 | curt | firefox wants to open the save-as dialog and hasn't parsed the php code |
| 23:04.33 | sylvisj | Linux > Windows anyway. All that bugs me is the difficulty of installing all my games, such as D2, WAR3, and WOW. |
| 23:04.37 | sylvisj | It might be cnsmin then. |
| 23:05.02 | scruffy | x3c: to undo, iptables -L --line-numbers, then look for the rule number, then iptables -D # |
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| 23:05.17 | dli | sylvisj, not sure about games in linux :( |
| 23:05.18 | dvs | curt: Is php4.conf and php4.load in /etc/apapche2/mods-enabled? |
| 23:05.32 | curt | dvs, yes both files are there |
| 23:05.33 | sylvisj | I know I'll have to use Wine or Cedega (WineX). |
| 23:05.37 | netsurf3 | what debian packages would be NEEDED to run some gtk apps and have a very basic gnome desktop (config tools inclueded but no things like totum) |
| 23:05.41 | sylvisj | Wine is a PITA, and I can't find Cedega |
| 23:05.49 | MickMcMack | Is there a way to partition a VMware "HardDrive" from outside VMware? |
| 23:06.08 | lightbright | dli: what location? |
| 23:06.16 | x3c | ok thanks scruffy, here it goes |
| 23:06.35 | dli | lightbright, file address, like "/home/dli/doc" |
| 23:06.37 | lightbright | dli: nautils? |
| 23:06.41 | dvs | curt: search /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and search for "php" |
| 23:06.57 | dli | lightbright, yes, how to type addresses in nautilus? |
| 23:07.07 | x3c | AGHHH! nooooooooo! |
| 23:07.14 | x3c | iptables v1.2.9: can't initialize iptables table `NAT': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) |
| 23:07.14 | x3c | Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. |
| 23:08.06 | scruffy | x3c: not sure what the module name is.. #netfiler will know. iptables_nat, perhaps? |
| 23:08.25 | curt | dvs, the index.php is part if the directory index and there are addhandlers for php and phps |
| 23:08.32 | x3c | what is insmod ? |
| 23:08.40 | dvs | curt: AddType? |
| 23:08.45 | scruffy | x3c: inserts a kernel module |
| 23:08.48 | dli | x3c modprobe iptable_nat |
| 23:08.50 | dvs | !insmod |
| 23:08.50 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 23:08.53 | lightbright | dli: please stop smoking that stuff :P |
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| 23:09.06 | curt | dvs, yes addtype |
| 23:09.07 | x3c | how do i remove a mod ? |
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| 23:09.25 | dli | x3c: rmmod iptable_nat |
| 23:09.28 | curt | there are a couple of extras that I saw online looking this problem up |
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| 23:09.44 | scruffy | x3c: rmmod |
| 23:10.06 | curt | dvs, AddHandler php-script php and AddType text/html php |
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| 23:10.50 | x3c | mod_probe iptable_nat did not show anything |
| 23:11.00 | scruffy | x3c: lsmod |
| 23:11.04 | dvs | curt: I dont have a AddHandler line for php |
| 23:11.10 | x3c | lsmod returned nothing |
| 23:11.24 | scruffy | x3c: is this the fedora machine? |
| 23:11.28 | x3c | aye |
| 23:11.29 | SnuS | ifconfig eth0 shows me TX packets:0 errors:37862 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:73136 and TX bytes:0 (0.0 b). yet, I can send and recieve packets through that card. what is wrong ? |
| 23:11.37 | curt | dvs, i am going to take it out, just saw it on a website about php |
| 23:11.39 | scruffy | x3c: whew, you got me there.. |
| 23:11.52 | x3c | what the |
| 23:11.56 | x3c | 1 sec sys just kicked me off |
| 23:12.01 | scruffy | x3c: how many config* are there in /boot? |
| 23:12.03 | Roots | http://www.bash.org/?564197 |
| 23:12.38 | x3c | kernel.h is all thats in /boot |
| 23:12.45 | scruffy | x3c: ssh kicking you off isn't such a great sign either |
| 23:12.46 | curt | it's like the module is broken or the wrong mod |
| 23:12.53 | nocxium | ear to Erykah Badu live burn some candels and forget all the pain - |
| 23:13.02 | x3c | scruffy its working lol, lovely xp killed putty for some reason |
| 23:13.38 | scruffy | x3c: I've gotta ask though, what the heck does this all have to do with Debian? heheh |
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| 23:14.02 | Toastie_ | Is it legal for a GPLed program to link against non-GPLed libraries? |
| 23:14.05 | x3c | no one else in other channels would speak so i tried the most crowded one hoping for one lone person :D and i found one! :D |
| 23:14.05 | scruffy | x3c: kernel.h is _all_ that is under /boot?! |
| 23:14.13 | x3c | scruffy yes |
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| 23:14.23 | scruffy | x3c: my, that is odd |
| 23:14.37 | x3c | should be more ? |
| 23:14.40 | scruffy | x3c: `ls -la /boot` ? |
| 23:15.04 | x3c | . .. kernel.h |
| 23:15.07 | x3c | thats it |
| 23:15.12 | x3c | nothing more nothing less |
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| 23:15.25 | scruffy | x3c: that's a first for me.. |
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| 23:15.42 | dli | scruffy, maybe, it's not debian |
| 23:15.48 | scruffy | dli: right |
| 23:15.55 | scruffy | hehheh |
| 23:15.59 | x3c | i wish it was |
| 23:16.02 | dli | scruffy, not even a native linux |
| 23:16.04 | x3c | then this would most likely be easier |
| 23:16.26 | scruffy | x3c: that' |
| 23:16.30 | x3c | ? |
| 23:16.39 | scruffy | x3c: 's terribly odd, to be honest |
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| 23:16.59 | scruffy | x3c: lsmod give you nothing at all? |
| 23:17.03 | x3c | nadda |
| 23:17.04 | hawking | which is better? debian or ubuntu? |
| 23:17.14 | dvs | !smack hawking |
| 23:17.37 | scruffy | x3c: iptables -L? |
| 23:17.43 | harleyg | whats the freenode ipv6 address? |
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| 23:18.00 | x3c | um i'd paste but theres to many lines |
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| 23:18.17 | scruffy | x3c: look for the rule you added |
| 23:18.20 | x3c | chain input, chain forward, chain output, etc, all blank |
| 23:18.22 | x3c | no rule |
| 23:18.26 | Coutal | azeem: i'm working my way with microwindows now - i can see why this package is hard to build properly. it's been a while since i've seen such a mess |
| 23:18.43 | gravity | hawking: Stop trolling |
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| 23:19.20 | scruffy | x3c: okay, you need to figure out how to add iptables_nat. Otherwise, you won't be able to do what you want. (scruffy is fading rapidly) |
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| 23:19.31 | x3c | dang |
| 23:19.40 | x3c | well theres Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) |
| 23:19.40 | x3c | target prot opt source destination |
| 23:19.45 | scruffy | x3c: are you root when you run iptables -L? |
| 23:19.48 | x3c | yes |
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| 23:20.11 | acollins | does anyone here know viewcvs? |
| 23:20.32 | acollins | i've found loads of great docs, none of which mention which url to go to...to see the code! |
| 23:21.08 | scruffy | x3c: without anyway to find out which modules are enabled or loaded, I'm out of suggestions. I'm assuming this is a hosting company? |
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| 23:21.45 | x3c | yes but they wont help without charging me 100 an hour |
| 23:21.47 | x3c | :\ |
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| 23:21.58 | scruffy | x3c: yikes |
| 23:22.02 | x3c | indeed |
| 23:22.20 | x3c | oh well, i'll try later, need to go get some food and clear my head, netfilters site cluttered my brain up lol |
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| 23:22.34 | x3c | thanks for the help scruffy |
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| 23:23.08 | w3rdn4 | how do I view .mov files in debian? |
| 23:23.27 | sylvisj | !dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 23:23.27 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 23:23.32 | stew | w3rdn4: install w32codecs and mplayer from marillat /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 23:24.54 | scruffy | x3c: if `iptables -A INPUT -j LOG` does nothing to kernel.log, than you may be out of luck |
| 23:25.29 | scruffy | x3c: (without contacting the $100 an hour people) |
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| 23:27.21 | sylvisj | How do I delete a directory? |
| 23:27.25 | MickMcMack | Does anyone know of a bootable ISO that just has something like fdisk on it? |
| 23:27.30 | dvs | sylvisj: rmdir |
| 23:27.49 | sylvisj | Thx dvs |
| 23:27.56 | dvs | no prob |
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| 23:29.13 | sylvisj | Umm... how do I format a floppy? |
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| 23:29.38 | bop1 | can people sniff the snmp community strings in my network if i use snmpv3? |
| 23:30.27 | scruffy | x3c: by the way, depending on your configuration on fedora, there may be no kernel.log. In such a case, checm /var/log/messages |
| 23:30.45 | sylvisj | Anyone? |
| 23:30.49 | scruffy | x3c: s/checm/check/ |
| 23:31.10 | dvs | sylvisj: mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0 |
| 23:31.16 | scruffy | sylvisj: fdformat |
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| 23:31.32 | scruffy | sylvisj: check the man page for it |
| 23:31.33 | sylvisj | Dhx |
| 23:32.01 | sylvisj | Gah. How do I unmount something? |
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| 23:32.16 | scruffy | sylvisj: umount? |
| 23:32.27 | scruffy | sylvisj: no "n" |
| 23:32.30 | sylvisj | Huh? |
| 23:32.33 | sylvisj | I see that. |
| 23:32.35 | sylvisj | Device is busy |
| 23:32.36 | dvs | scruffy: umout? ;-) |
| 23:32.37 | w3rdn4 | debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
| 23:32.49 | thingfish | sylvisj: make sure to cd out of the dir first. |
| 23:32.50 | w3rdn4 | what process might lock that? |
| 23:32.58 | scruffy | dvs: heh :D |
| 23:33.01 | jsn | Is there a way to see what dependencies installed package X has? For instance, command like dpkg ? |
| 23:33.13 | jsn | dpkg --this-packages-depends packagename |
| 23:33.15 | dli | jsn: dpkg -s |
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| 23:33.22 | sylvisj | Thx thing |
| 23:33.23 | thingfish | jsn: apt-cache depend/ rdepends |
| 23:33.24 | gravity | jsn: apt-cache show package |
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| 23:33.38 | thingfish | *depends |
| 23:33.47 | sylvisj | Ok, it's working now. |
| 23:34.34 | thingfish | bourbon and cokes don't taste real good but after 3 of them, you don't care so much. |
| 23:34.46 | thingfish | :) |
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| 23:36.14 | XTF | Hi. I just dist-upgraded unstable to kernel 2.6.14 and now the system doesn't boot anymore with that kernel. Can I find the old log of the previous boot somewhere (I rebooted with the old kernel)? |
| 23:36.26 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 23:36.38 | dvs | hehe? |
| 23:36.50 | thingfish | yes hehe |
| 23:37.03 | dvs | Why's that funny? |
| 23:37.13 | nocxium | XTF: boot old kernel? |
| 23:37.15 | thingfish | well, now that you ask, I'm not quite sure. |
| 23:37.23 | dvs | Now that's "hehe" |
| 23:37.26 | w3rdn4 | what do i do to see the processes and what they are using? |
| 23:37.35 | thingfish | oh, a sweetie. |
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| 23:37.54 | linux_manju | w3rdn4: ps ax |
| 23:37.57 | XTF | nocxium: Yes, I rebooted with 2.6.12. |
| 23:37.58 | thingfish | maybe the fact that you go messing with unstable/experimental and wonder why you have problems? |
| 23:38.04 | jsn | Thanks. apt-cache depends packagename and (dpkg -s|apt-cache show) packagename are what I wanted |
| 23:38.08 | golya | Hi! I'm using growisofs to burn dvd under linux. But it burns very slow. I can burn the same type of disc under window at 8* speed, but with growisofs it is at least double time :( |
| 23:38.11 | XTF | thingfish: I'm not wondering why I have problems. |
| 23:38.26 | XTF | thingfish: I'm wondering how I can report this bug so someone else can fix it. |
| 23:38.45 | thingfish | do you have the bug report tool installed, XTF? |
| 23:38.49 | XTF | Yes. |
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| 23:38.56 | w3rdn4 | linux_manju, how do I get it to list /var ? |
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| 23:39.21 | linux_manju | w3rdn4: > what exactly is ur question |
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| 23:39.50 | common | h, i debootstrapped a sid system 2 times, and both times it failed running base-config and even top does not work in the chroot bootstrapped enviroment |
| 23:39.55 | linux_manju | w3rdn4: is it the processes ur trying see? |
| 23:40.09 | scruffy | w3rdn4: ps -ef, or try lsof |
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| 23:40.21 | golya | is there a good dvd burning program packaged for debian? I mean, what burns. GUI is not important until I cannot burn at a good rate :( |
| 23:40.29 | jsn | I just switched from hand-building a kernel (last two years) to debian packaged kernel. I'm getting the kernel panic from some sort of initrd problem. Pointers? |
| 23:40.30 | XTF | thingfish: Yes. |
| 23:40.33 | dvs | golya: k3b |
| 23:40.39 | common | golya: try nero4linux trial |
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| 23:40.51 | golya | I'd like to have a free tool |
| 23:40.56 | golya | what burns |
| 23:40.59 | golya | not what shines |
| 23:41.08 | golya | no KDE, no Gnome here |
| 23:41.08 | linux_manju | common: > never heard of nero for linux .. any url.. if ur not kiddin |
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| 23:41.26 | common | nero.com/nerolinux.html |
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| 23:41.35 | SimonRaven | golya: they all use cdrecord or the dvd version anyway... |
| 23:41.50 | common | golya: nero4linux is superior to everything else |
| 23:41.55 | golya | ...which is also not free, AFAIK |
| 23:41.56 | spoof | hi..i'm trying to build modules for kernel 2.6.12 by make-kpkg and get that message : make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-1-686/scripts/basic/Makefile'. Stop. But with kernel 2.6.8 i has no problem and modules builds in debs by make-kpkg modules_image pretty well |
| 23:42.18 | common | cdrecord sucks big time |
| 23:42.20 | golya | I mean cdrecord-dvdpro |
| 23:42.28 | SimonRaven | i bet it's just as free as the winblows version. i.e. not at all |
| 23:42.38 | linux_manju | common: arg.. thnx.. its really there :) |
| 23:42.39 | golya | anyone trying some patched version? |
| 23:42.51 | common | wal: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. |
| 23:43.00 | common | is this a known issue to sid? |
| 23:43.42 | SimonRaven | um, burn rate doesn't matter, that's like saying you have a long penis but can't make any man or woman happy |
| 23:43.50 | linux_manju | common: > any crack webite for the same ;P |
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| 23:44.14 | golya | scruffy: burn is a frontend for cdrecord, isn't it? |
| 23:44.17 | scruffy | SimonRaven: I'm talking about the package 'burn' |
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| 23:44.21 | SimonRaven | linux_manju: warez are frowned upon here |
| 23:44.31 | scruffy | golya: yeah, among other things, I think |
| 23:44.35 | SimonRaven | the whole network in fact |
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| 23:44.50 | thingfish | ooh |
| 23:44.55 | SimonRaven | dvs: hehe |
| 23:45.13 | linux_manju | SimonRaven: > sorry but was trying to add one more pkg to the free community ;P |
| 23:45.13 | common | linux_manju: serial for the w32 full pro media special suite will do it |
| 23:45.14 | golya | but I want to find a program, that is not a frontend, but burns DVD, and not at a 2* speed |
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| 23:45.37 | common | give efnet #serialz a shot |
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| 23:45.57 | common | so |
| 23:46.03 | linux_manju | common: > ur the man,,, :) |
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| 23:46.09 | scruffy | golya: I don't think burn uses DVD, so you can rule that one out |
| 23:46.10 | linux_manju | common: > you made my day |
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| 23:46.16 | common | can somebody help me with this damn debootstrap bullshit? |
| 23:46.21 | SimonRaven | linux_manju: not funny, and that's not a package |
| 23:46.38 | common | nero4linux is just great |
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| 23:47.00 | linux_manju | SimonRaven: who cares as long as it serves the purpose |
| 23:47.05 | SimonRaven | @ops common is passing along warez info |
| 23:47.06 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: common is passing along warez info |
| 23:47.06 | Racer_D | hello |
| 23:47.11 | SimonRaven | linux_manju: i care, fuck off |
| 23:47.21 | common | warez info? |
| 23:47.30 | helix | ok everyone |
| 23:47.35 | linux_manju | SimonRaven: > then don use that .. lol |
| 23:47.35 | helix | stop talking for five minutes |
| 23:47.36 | helix | lie back |
| 23:47.36 | thingfish | hi helix hon |
| 23:47.38 | strat | i just did a dist-upgrade and it broke gnome..kde works just fine..how do i set kdm as the display manager and not gdm?? |
| 23:47.38 | helix | and think of england |
| 23:47.43 | Racer_D | I keep getting "kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs" with the kernels I compile |
| 23:47.44 | thingfish | :) |
| 23:47.53 | thingfish | how sane. |
| 23:47.58 | common | helix |
| 23:48.00 | Racer_D | I used debian kernel's config (which works), compiled and get the error anyway |
| 23:48.03 | common | maybe you can help me |
| 23:48.05 | helix | common: yes? |
| 23:48.09 | helix | I doubt it |
| 23:48.14 | linux_manju | Racer_D: > did ya compile the ext2 support as a module? |
| 23:48.15 | Racer_D | any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 23:48.17 | helix | Racer_D: have you got the initrd setup? |
| 23:48.17 | gravity | ew |
| 23:48.30 | thingfish | I know they do suck, but they work pretty good. |
| 23:48.30 | helix | I'm allergic to snuggling |
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| 23:48.33 | thingfish | oh |
| 23:48.35 | Racer_D | linux_manju: I'm using reiser and it's compiled in the kernel |
| 23:48.35 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:48.45 | common | i debootstrapped a sid, and i get Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. |
| 23:48.55 | dvs | Racer_D: What about your IDE controller? |
| 23:48.56 | Racer_D | helix: I installed it the way installation manual describes |
| 23:48.56 | linux_manju | Racer_D: > kernel source version? |
| 23:49.00 | Kobra | hey do you know the command for video card reconfiguration? |
| 23:49.00 | helix | common: which version of debootstrap? |
| 23:49.03 | common | when starting base-config by hand it says "Terminated" |
| 23:49.03 | Racer_D | kpkg |
| 23:49.08 | helix | Racer_D: check your grub menu.lst or whatever |
| 23:49.20 | helix | common: are you in the installer then? |
| 23:49.25 | Racer_D | dvs: it's in |
| 23:49.30 | Racer_D | config is the same |
| 23:49.34 | common | no, it just printfs Terminated |
| 23:49.35 | Kobra | it is dpkg-reconfigure then ? |
| 23:49.40 | Racer_D | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.43 | common | if i start top, the terminal is broken |
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| 23:49.54 | helix | common: what are you doing? debootstrap, installer, ...? |
| 23:49.55 | common | and nothing shows up, but the term breaks |
| 23:49.59 | helix | ignoring me? |
| 23:50.01 | dvs | Racer_D: If the config is the same as debian, then it's probably a module. You'll need to make an initrd to make it work. |
| 23:50.05 | common | no |
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| 23:50.23 | Racer_D | what's initrd? :) |
| 23:50.29 | dvs | !initrd |
| 23:50.29 | dpkg | it has been said that initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
| 23:50.37 | dvs | hehe |
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| 23:50.47 | common | i wanted to install debian on my notebooks hda1, i already got a installation on hda5, but that got ... messy during the "we break sid hard" phase after 3.0 release |
| 23:50.48 | Racer_D | kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro |
| 23:50.48 | helix | SimonRaven: you called @ops to get me to look in here so I could get agitated before going out, didn't you? :) |
| 23:50.50 | Racer_D | this? |
| 23:50.51 | strat | never mind..i just did a apt-get install kdm.. |
| 23:50.56 | dvs | Racer_D: nope |
| 23:50.58 | helix | Racer_D: no, it'll say initrd= |
| 23:51.18 | helix | and you should have an initrd.img somewhere if you used make-kpkg correctly |
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| 23:51.26 | Kobra | can u give a hand setting up my video card? |
| 23:51.27 | Racer_D | so I do initrd=/dev/hda1 |
| 23:51.28 | Racer_D | ? |
| 23:51.32 | helix | no |
| 23:51.33 | dvs | Racer_D: nope |
| 23:51.41 | dvs | Racer_D: initrd is a file |
| 23:51.45 | common | so i debootstrapped sid, and it did not work, so i started a knoppix terminalserver on my desktop, pxe bootet my notebook, debootstrapped sid, and it did not work |
| 23:51.54 | Racer_D | aha |
| 23:51.55 | jsn | initrd=/boot/initrd.img-whatever? |
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| 23:52.03 | common | helix: any hints? |
| 23:52.04 | jsn | and not in the boot params, but as a line? |
| 23:52.11 | helix | common: I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 23:52.17 | Racer_D | oh |
| 23:52.18 | Racer_D | I see |
| 23:52.19 | jsn | or in boot params? |
| 23:52.25 | Racer_D | initrd.img-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 23:52.32 | Racer_D | the kernel that works has one |
| 23:52.34 | common | debootstrap is broken |
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| 23:52.41 | helix | Racer_D: initrd.img should be a symlink to the current one |
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| 23:52.42 | common | thats what im talking about |
| 23:52.43 | helix | i think |
| 23:52.44 | dvs | Racer_D: But is there a 2.6.12 for the kernel that you made? |
| 23:52.51 | SimonRaven | helix: no, my friend, sorry about that |
| 23:52.53 | helix | common: did you check the bts? bugs.debian.org/debootstrap |
| 23:52.59 | Racer_D | dvs: no |
| 23:53.03 | SimonRaven | helix: ;). i know you're kidding |
| 23:53.10 | dvs | Racer_D: And that's the problem |
| 23:53.12 | jsn | Do I put the initrd= in the append="" section, or on a line like Label=new? |
| 23:53.26 | Racer_D | how do I add one? |
| 23:53.27 | helix | common: the bit I'm confused about is base-config, since I can't recall ever doing that with debootstrap |
| 23:53.31 | helix | jsn: no |
| 23:53.34 | dvs | Racer_D: You either need to make an initrd or put the code into the kernel instead of a module |
| 23:53.37 | helix | initrd= as its own line |
| 23:53.54 | christopher | q |
| 23:53.56 | dvs | helix: He didn't make an initrd for his new kernel |
| 23:53.59 | jsn | helix: merci |
| 23:54.06 | helix | dvs: I was talking to jsn :) |
| 23:54.08 | Racer_D | hm |
| 23:54.11 | dvs | doh! |
| 23:54.12 | dvs | sorry |
| 23:54.21 | Racer_D | so basically I just have to set initrd to on in my config? |
| 23:54.22 | helix | I dub the unforgiven |
| 23:54.22 | Kobra | ey buddies can u give me a hand setting up my video card?? |
| 23:54.22 | jsn | I had been doing handbuilt kernels forever, just switched to debian one. |
| 23:54.26 | helix | thee too |
| 23:54.28 | jsn | thx, folks |
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| 23:54.39 | helix | Racer_D: you ened an initrd.img too |
| 23:54.43 | helix | s/ened/need/ |
| 23:54.46 | thingfish | Kobra: nvidia or ati? |
| 23:54.47 | dvs | Racer_D: If you're using make-kpkg, you need to use the --initrd option |
| 23:55.05 | Kobra | thingfish: nvidia |
| 23:55.08 | thingfish | yay |
| 23:55.13 | helix | what are those cookies with white chocolate in them? |
| 23:55.15 | Racer_D | so it's like |
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| 23:55.16 | thingfish | which version of debian? |
| 23:55.23 | helix | and chocolate chip cookies too |
| 23:55.26 | Racer_D | fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.1 kernel_image |
| 23:55.29 | Racer_D | ? |
| 23:55.29 | gravity | mmm... cookies |
| 23:55.30 | dvs | Racer_D: Peraonally, I'd put the code into the kernel itself. |
| 23:55.30 | Kobra | thingfish: sarge |
| 23:55.34 | thingfish | ooh and I hope pecans |
| 23:55.34 | dvs | Racer_D: yup |
| 23:55.41 | helix | maybe pecans? |
| 23:55.41 | thingfish | Kobra: yay. |
| 23:55.48 | helix | oh god I'm going to go crazy if I can't remember |
| 23:55.50 | Racer_D | and that will add all the necessary code? |
| 23:56.01 | helix | thingfish: let me know when you figure out the name of the cookies I'm talking about |
| 23:56.07 | dvs | Racer_D: That will create your initrd file |
| 23:56.11 | common | helix http://phpfi.com/84575 |
| 23:56.11 | thingfish | Kobra: make sure contrib and non-free are in your sources.list. |
| 23:56.29 | Kobra | thingfish: they are there |
| 23:56.32 | thingfish | helix: hey, I just want to eat some of them... |
| 23:56.37 | helix | common: ?? why are you showing me an apache config? |
| 23:56.50 | Kobra | thingfish: do u know the command to reconfigure the x free server? |
| 23:56.56 | common | uh |
| 23:56.59 | thingfish | !tell Kobra about nvidia one-liner |
| 23:57.00 | common | helix http://phpfi.com/84579 |
| 23:57.00 | helix | and why is the word marzipan stuck in my head? |
| 23:57.02 | common | sorry |
| 23:57.09 | thingfish | Kobra: do what dpkg says. |
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| 23:57.25 | thingfish | ooh because marzipan is lovely stuff, that's why. |
| 23:57.27 | SimonRaven | wow, new scripts for packaing in 2.6.14, including a builddeb one, <src>/scripts/package |
| 23:57.34 | thingfish | almond paste. |
| 23:57.35 | linux_manju | common: > lucky you some one showed ya something ;) |
| 23:57.36 | SimonRaven | g+ |
| 23:57.39 | thingfish | colored, often. |
| 23:57.43 | helix | common: oh I see -- I just chroot into it |
| 23:57.44 | linux_manju | lets think its interesting |
| 23:57.46 | thingfish | and molded into shapes. |
| 23:58.12 | common | yes |
| 23:58.20 | common | but i want to boot that partition |
| 23:58.21 | magyar | any news on kernel 2.6.14 being in sid? |
| 23:58.25 | common | so i chrooted |
| 23:58.37 | helix | common: right, i understand now. debootstrap's not broken though |
| 23:58.40 | common | and base-config just said "Terminated" |
| 23:58.41 | SimonRaven | it's in experimental |
| 23:58.44 | helix | it did what it's supposed to do |
| 23:58.51 | helix | base-config looks fucked though |
| 23:59.00 | common | if i call "top" the terminal is broken |
| 23:59.03 | phrontist | my debian install seems to be using OSS, how can I switch over to ALSA? |
| 23:59.12 | helix | common: what does it say in /var/log/installer.log? |
| 23:59.17 | common | no \n any longer, no typed chars |
| 23:59.17 | magyar | SimonRaven, how do i get to experimental? |
| 23:59.27 | helix | that appears to be where base-config puts its log |
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| 23:59.46 | thingfish | you have to get spanked by a row of debian developers first, magyar. |
| 23:59.50 | gravity | ew |
| 23:59.53 | gravity | No thanks |
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| 23:59.59 | helix | hmm I wonder if /proc needs to be mounted for base-config? |
