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| 00:00.27 | mansu | hi all, how do i change the smtp server using which reportbug is sending mails? |
| 00:00.34 | *** part/#debian Abilene (n=scottham@pcp016078pcs.harngt01.de.comcast.net) |
| 00:00.36 | pattieja | TiMiDo, libapache-mod-ph 4.3.10-16 |
| 00:00.44 | Sorcre | TiMiDo: It says that there is no network |
| 00:00.57 | pattieja | that's libapache-mod-php4 |
| 00:00.58 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, port 22: Connection refused |
| 00:01.06 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok. |
| 00:01.14 | Rot-Tweak2 | so the outside cant get in. |
| 00:01.25 | Guerin | Rot-Tweak2: talk to the admin |
| 00:01.25 | Rot-Tweak2 | how do I find out where its stopping it? |
| 00:01.28 | deadcat | anyone been to carrow's restaurant? are they expensive? |
| 00:01.30 | Rot-Tweak2 | call them up again? |
| 00:01.46 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, one very unlikely possiblity, add "sshd: ALL " to your /etc/hosts.allow |
| 00:01.47 | Guerin | Rot-Tweak2: you have no control over this, unkless you've firewalled your machine or there's nothing listening on port 22 |
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| 00:02.02 | Guerin | dli: that's not the answer |
| 00:02.17 | Rot-Tweak2 | guerin why not? it worked last night |
| 00:02.20 | Rot-Tweak2 | and I havnt changed anything |
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| 00:02.35 | Guerin | Rot-Tweak2: it's not the answer BECAUSE it worked last night and you haven't vchanged anything |
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| 00:02.42 | P8ntKid | How would i resize hda1 using parted? |
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| 00:03.00 | Rot-Tweak2 | guerin sorry im confused your logic is to far above mine. |
| 00:03.09 | deadcat | P8ntKid: start parted |
| 00:03.13 | Rot-Tweak2 | Im going to call admins and see if they can ping me and such |
| 00:03.25 | P8ntKid | deadcat, Did. |
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| 00:03.32 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, since you are connected :) they can always ping you |
| 00:03.38 | Rot-Tweak2 | true |
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| 00:03.52 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, one more test |
| 00:03.54 | Rot-Tweak2 | then ......... whats going on? all I changed was an ethernet cable |
| 00:03.57 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok whats up |
| 00:04.03 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, stop sshd, /etc/init.d/ssh stop |
| 00:04.07 | Rot-Tweak2 | k |
| 00:04.19 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, and leave sshd -d up, by "sshd -d" |
| 00:04.35 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok stopped |
| 00:04.36 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, I will ssh you again |
| 00:04.36 | P8ntKid | deadcat, Now what? |
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| 00:04.45 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok start it up again |
| 00:05.02 | zerovertex | Hey. Looking for a desktop search (i.e. Google Desktop search) that I can easily install (apt-get)... I've tried kat and beagle... both have unmet depends. any suggestions. |
| 00:05.03 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, any message reported by sshd? |
| 00:05.11 | Rot-Tweak2 | started it up |
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| 00:05.23 | Rot-Tweak2 | nope just says bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0. |
| 00:05.31 | Rot-Tweak2 | I just now started it up |
| 00:05.35 | Rot-Tweak2 | might want to try it again |
| 00:05.43 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, double check your iptables, /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts.allow |
| 00:05.49 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok |
| 00:05.53 | deadcat | P8ntKid: look at it. i dont know. its GUI. how hard can it be? |
| 00:05.57 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, "iptables -L" |
| 00:06.12 | Rot-Tweak2 | the iptables are clear |
| 00:06.18 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, add a line of "sshd: ALL" to your /etc/hosts.allow |
| 00:06.28 | P8ntKid | deadcat, No its not. |
| 00:06.39 | P8ntKid | deadcat, Its not gui |
| 00:06.43 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, then, you keep sshd -d up |
| 00:06.59 | deadcat | P8ntKid: isnt there some frontend for parted? |
| 00:07.00 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok |
| 00:07.02 | Rot-Tweak2 | restrat ssh? |
| 00:07.15 | pattieja | hackers make me tired |
| 00:07.31 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, I can ping your IP, at wsu.edu ? |
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| 00:07.36 | shad0wcat | bah |
| 00:07.41 | shad0wcat | you know what makes you really tired |
| 00:07.45 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, restart "sshd -d" |
| 00:07.49 | shad0wcat | staring at a bunch of theorems all day |
| 00:07.59 | pattieja | shad0wcat, :) |
| 00:08.04 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok I did |
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| 00:08.19 | shad0wcat | pattieja: I had the great idea of reviewing all the linear algebra I know |
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| 00:08.26 | shad0wcat | boy do I have a headache now |
| 00:08.29 | pattieja | :) |
| 00:08.36 | pattieja | one way to lose weight |
| 00:08.40 | DiyaR | Lan MaLLaR |
| 00:08.45 | shad0wcat | it's one way to go insane |
| 00:08.48 | shad0wcat | a pretty good way too |
| 00:09.04 | shad0wcat | nothing like a a ten dimention transformation to drive you up the wall |
| 00:09.07 | pattieja | I think you use something like 20 Calories when you laugh, so imagine what looking at algebra will burn |
| 00:09.09 | shad0wcat | dimension |
| 00:09.09 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, so, I can ping your IP |
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| 00:09.19 | Rot-Tweak2 | my ip or the server? |
| 00:09.25 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, ending .204 |
| 00:09.27 | mansu | hi all, how do i change the smtp server using which reportbug is sending mails? |
| 00:09.31 | shad0wcat | pattieja: I already went through a full set of highlighter pens |
| 00:09.32 | Rot-Tweak2 | thats not the servers |
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| 00:09.36 | Rot-Tweak2 | thats my wireless that im on now |
| 00:09.39 | Rot-Tweak2 | on this computer |
| 00:09.41 | pattieja | shad0wcat, studying for an exam? |
| 00:09.47 | shad0wcat | pattieja: yep |
| 00:09.50 | DiyaR | 015eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 00:09.52 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, what address you want me to try? |
| 00:09.53 | Rot-Tweak2 | could you ping the ip for the server? |
| 00:09.55 | DiyaR | ökuzLeR |
| 00:10.01 | Rot-Tweak2 | PMed |
| 00:10.09 | deadcat | shad0wcat: not multiple choice eh? |
| 00:10.10 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, I can ping the .204 one |
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| 00:10.22 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, I think my xchat disabled msg :( |
| 00:10.28 | Rot-Tweak2 | oh ok |
| 00:10.32 | Rot-Tweak2 | hehe |
| 00:10.36 | shad0wcat | deadcat: this is university maths |
| 00:10.41 | amphi | Rot-Tweak2: did you ever PM me? |
| 00:10.42 | shad0wcat | it better not be multiple choice |
| 00:10.42 | Rot-Tweak2 | well what the heck no 1 try 2 hack my server then please |
| 00:10.43 | deadcat | shad0wcat: HAHAHAH.. |
| 00:10.48 | Rot-Tweak2 | amphi yes twice |
| 00:10.51 | Rot-Tweak2 | 134.121.241.91 |
| 00:11.05 | Rot-Tweak2 | thats the server dli |
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| 00:11.28 | shad0wcat | thanks for the shell |
| 00:11.30 | shad0wcat | :) |
| 00:11.37 | dli | Rot-Tweaks looks like a firewall |
| 00:11.48 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok so I need to talk with admins? |
| 00:11.50 | pattieja | version 2 |
| 00:11.54 | Rot-Tweak2 | how could you tell? |
| 00:11.57 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, I think so |
| 00:12.00 | pattieja | anybody familiar with it? |
| 00:12.13 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, if not, it refuses the connection immediately |
| 00:12.15 | deadcat | pattieja: ya. just patch it |
| 00:12.23 | P8ntKid | Can anybody help me resize a partition? |
| 00:12.30 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, now, it just waits forever, like "-j DROP" |
| 00:12.31 | pattieja | deadcat, does the gradm2 application have a learning mode? |
| 00:12.37 | deadcat | pattieja: have you man the package? |
| 00:12.37 | pattieja | I know they were talking about it at one point |
| 00:12.38 | welson | Rot-Tweak2, you don't ping "ip" if your isp is blocking it |
| 00:12.40 | pattieja | no |
| 00:12.46 | Rot-Tweak2 | dli should I Try to connect a windows pc to it? |
| 00:12.48 | deadcat | pattieja: i only use the patch. not the util |
| 00:12.51 | Rot-Tweak2 | and try to remote into it? |
| 00:13.01 | pattieja | deadcat, you don't implement any rules? |
| 00:13.03 | Rot-Tweak2 | welcos ping anything doesnt work |
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| 00:13.27 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, try another machine, see whether it can receive 22/tcp |
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| 00:13.35 | deadcat | pattieja: i only use it to disable /proc and some simple stuff |
| 00:13.41 | Rot-Tweak2 | ok brb |
| 00:13.50 | dli | Rot-Tweak2, then, you are pretty sure the problem is not at your side |
| 00:14.06 | pattieja | deadcat, I think I'm going to have to implement a deny-by-default scenario on our webserver in order to keep the hackers at bay |
| 00:14.21 | deadcat | pattieja: ah |
| 00:14.48 | pattieja | deadcat, I've got someone consistently exploiting the web server and using our colocated bandwidth for DDoS's |
| 00:15.04 | deadcat | damn. that suck |
| 00:15.26 | welson | pattieja, I've got someone broadcasting 224.0.0.x to my gateway with igmp packets.. ever heard of this? |
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| 00:15.30 | MrBallZ | how can I specify that i only want to apt-get remove one package, for example, i want to remove Kopete, but if i do apt-get remove kopete , its going to uninstall kdenetwork too ... |
| 00:15.31 | pattieja | The IP address he comes in on appears to be from Hungary (or whatever domain .hu stands for) |
| 00:15.44 | pattieja | welson, sounds like multicast traffic |
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| 00:16.11 | pattieja | anybody running a software radio broadcast or video streaming? |
| 00:16.24 | pattieja | (previous comment for welson) |
| 00:16.26 | welson | pattieja, the source ip is a non-device isp # (private 10.x.x.x) which isn't on their network-- my gateway is being spoiled of denials for this multicast |
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| 00:17.01 | pattieja | welson, haven't come across that problem |
| 00:17.04 | welson | pattieja, not sure how someone is doing it, but I least hope that it some technician running it for two weeks doing some kind of testing-- or some dam hacker |
| 00:17.06 | litage | what's the difference between the daemontools-installer and svtools packages? |
| 00:18.14 | bob2 | daemontools is non-free djb-ware |
| 00:18.18 | bob2 | and should ideally be avoided |
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| 00:19.04 | Rot-Tweak2 | dli what shouls I tell him? |
| 00:19.08 | Rot-Tweak2 | (on hold) |
| 00:19.50 | TiMiDo | Mr bob2 =) |
| 00:19.52 | litage | bob2: why is that? |
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| 00:20.20 | litage | (bob2: as in, why should it ideally be avoided?) |
| 00:20.57 | bob2 | litage: djb has a very un-unixy way of doing things. it won't integrate into the init system well, or into the filesystem (ie it will make new dirs under /) |
| 00:21.05 | bob2 | litage: what do you want to use them for? |
| 00:21.14 | litage | bob2: i'm interested only in supervise and svscan |
| 00:21.31 | litage | i'm confused because svtools' description says "..provides some useful utilities to maintain supervised services..", but supervise and svscan aren't included in svtools |
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| 00:22.30 | Sorcre | Sigh, I have no idea why the network doesn't work... I'm using the exact same settings as the windows one and it doesn't work |
| 00:22.44 | bob2 | litage: oh, svtools requires daemontools anyway |
| 00:22.56 | litage | bob2: actually, it only recommends daemontools |
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| 00:23.12 | K_Dallas | Sorcre, you need to be more precise if you expect any help |
| 00:23.17 | litage | ah, so it svtools are just some other progs to hop on the back of and use with daemontools? |
| 00:23.17 | bob2 | litage: ah, you're right |
| 00:23.23 | litage | s/it/if/ |
| 00:23.25 | bob2 | I think so |
| 00:23.31 | bob2 | runit is a kinda of replacement |
| 00:23.35 | litage | right |
| 00:23.39 | Sorcre | I'm trying to install debian on my new system(netinstall) but the network refuses to work |
| 00:24.08 | Sorcre | I'm behind a router, but so is this laptop and debian runs fine here |
| 00:24.15 | welson | Sorcre, the network card has to be exactly the same model as supported, otherwise the card wont be detected |
| 00:24.16 | litage | bob2: is there any advantage of installing daemontools via the daemontools-installer package as opposed to compiling the source myself? |
| 00:24.24 | K_Dallas | well that was my suggestion, using a router ;) |
| 00:24.37 | Sorcre | welson: what do you mean? |
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| 00:24.50 | bob2 | litage: make removing/upgrading easier, I guess. I'd be using runit ahead of daemontools, tho. |
| 00:25.08 | litage | bob2: why would you use runit rather than daemontools? |
| 00:25.09 | bob2 | or not |
| 00:25.13 | welson | Sorcre, http://debian.org/docs , if you're card isn't supported, it won't be found |
| 00:25.23 | bob2 | litage: because I fear things written by djb |
| 00:25.39 | welson | Sorcre, this is for the net-install, otherwise you may to try to compile a netboot image |
| 00:27.51 | litage | bob2: why do you fear djbware? it's incredibly stable and nearly bug-free |
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| 00:28.03 | bob2 | litage: haha |
| 00:28.07 | bob2 | litage: so he says |
| 00:28.34 | bob2 | litage: the licenses are annoying and prevent other people from improving or even easily bugfixing his software |
| 00:28.34 | litage | bob2: can you point me to some docs that explain otherwise? |
| 00:28.45 | Sorcre | welson: I think I'm just going to get Fedora 4 >.< as much as I love debian, fedora has worked with every single piece of hardware I've had. I've already spent 40 minutes on the network alone |
| 00:28.47 | bob2 | litage: he doesn't listen to anyone else's pov, e.g. ipv6 |
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| 00:29.02 | bob2 | litage: he doesn't do things the Unix Way, e.g. making new top level dirs under / |
| 00:29.16 | litage | bob2: i agree, the licenses are a PIA, but nothing prevents you from including patches to make changes to his code |
| 00:29.18 | bob2 | litage: some of his software is indeed buggy, like qmail bouncing mail sent to non-existent users |
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| 00:29.50 | bob2 | litage: sure, it' not impossible, just painful and annoying |
| 00:30.02 | litage | bob2: agreed |
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| 00:30.11 | welson | Sorcre, you'll probably get the same issue |
| 00:30.23 | welson | Sorcre, what type of network card is it "exactly" ? |
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| 00:30.52 | Sorcre | welson: dual gigabit on my DFI lanparty UT Nf4 Ultra-D. I tried both |
| 00:30.54 | bob2 | litage: so, no real big reason, just lots of little annoying ones |
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| 00:31.12 | bob2 | litage: finding help with his stuff appears to be harder than with bind/postfix/etc, too, but that's just an outsiders view |
| 00:31.43 | litage | bob2: runit is interesting. however, i'm looking for something that will ensure a prog is always running, rather than an init/init.d replacement |
| 00:31.43 | Rot-Tweak2 | is there any other way to make DHCP give me an ipaddress? like completly flush it? |
| 00:31.46 | welson | Sorcre, wtf is a "dual gigabit" ? <- why not find out what your card really is? |
| 00:31.50 | Rot-Tweak2 | i Guess the admins say I shouldt have this IP |
| 00:31.59 | Rot-Tweak2 | and when I ifdown and up eth0 it gives me the same IP |
| 00:32.05 | Sorcre | welson: Dual Gigabit LAN - Vitesse VSC8201 Gigabit Phy and Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit PCI |
| 00:32.08 | bob2 | Rot-Tweak2: that's what he dhcp server is giving you |
| 00:32.24 | Rot-Tweak2 | there isnt a way to get it from another dhcp server? hehe |
| 00:32.27 | Sorcre | welson: that's what it says in my mobo manual |
| 00:32.41 | bob2 | Rot-Tweak2: if there's more than one dhcp server on a network, you have lost |
| 00:32.59 | bucky | Rot-Tweak2, type dhclient |
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| 00:33.07 | welson | Sorcre, see if it's supported in the netboot kernel-- what docs are you using for the netinstall? |
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| 00:33.40 | FlimFlamMan | is there any way to see a scsi tape drive's firmware version from the console without rebooting? |
| 00:34.03 | bob2 | dmesg may show it |
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| 00:34.20 | Sorcre | welson: doc? I'm pretty much on my own here. It always worked before |
| 00:34.25 | inuczu | hi |
| 00:34.31 | FlimFlamMan | it shows the st version but not the tape drive firmware |
| 00:34.31 | Sorcre | welson: I guess these aren't supported |
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| 00:34.54 | Rot-Tweak2 | sit0: unknowwn hardware address type 776 |
| 00:34.56 | Rot-Tweak2 | is that bad? |
| 00:35.12 | inuczu | someone has succesfully installed debian on a SunFire 280R ? |
| 00:35.25 | naphex__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.39 | bob2 | Rot-Tweak2: no |
| 00:35.54 | bob2 | inuczu: might try #sparc or the debian-sparc@lists.d.o list if no one here knows much about it |
| 00:36.15 | inuczu | ok tnxs bob2 |
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| 00:37.06 | SNow | hi there, i get this message Your version of PHP (4.3.10-15) does not include MySQL support. I tried apt-get remove php4-mysql - nothing, then I tried apt-get remove php4 with purge - nothing, what should I do ? |
| 00:37.21 | bob2 | "nothing"? |
| 00:38.07 | SNow | "nothing" - means that I still get the same message bob2 :) |
| 00:38.43 | bob2 | and you get the message from...? |
| 00:38.44 | Rot-Tweak2 | why does dhclient and ./networking restart give me 2 different IPS? |
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| 00:38.56 | welson | Sorcre, well you obviously aren't follow any instructions, so be my guest, go back and see what the docs say about your card |
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| 00:39.56 | SNow | bob2 http://cs.sniegas.lt |
| 00:39.57 | marcelogpl | Hello |
| 00:40.03 | SNow | from the apache |
| 00:40.51 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone here play poker2d? |
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| 00:42.29 | Abilene | apt-get install php should install php into apache2? |
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| 00:43.06 | SNow | bob2 any ideas how should I make my php include mysql support? :) |
| 00:43.13 | bob2 | php4-mysql |
| 00:43.18 | bob2 | Abilene: no |
| 00:43.21 | SNow | I already installed that, but nothing bob2 |
| 00:43.22 | Nurbs | apt-get install php should remove all copies of PHP found |
| 00:43.24 | bob2 | Abilene: libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 00:43.34 | bob2 | SNow: well it obviously won't work without it |
| 00:43.41 | bob2 | SNow: now install it hten start looking at the php config file |
| 00:43.51 | SNow | Sorry, php4-mysql is already the newest version. |
| 00:43.54 | Nurbs | or libapache2-mod-php5, too, on unstable |
| 00:43.55 | SNow | And I was looking!! |
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| 00:44.36 | bob2 | SNow: what are you looking at? |
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| 00:45.25 | litage | bob2: does djb's license allow you to distribute binaries of his software within your company? |
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| 00:45.52 | Abilene | ok -- I did libapache2-mod-php4 apt-get install, but didn't take effect into apache2 |
| 00:46.11 | bob2 | litage: that's a good question :) |
| 00:46.11 | evilkenshin | how do i rip dvds onto my hdd? |
| 00:46.33 | SNow | bob2 php.ini |
| 00:46.51 | bob2 | litage: I don't know |
| 00:46.56 | litage | bob2: =) |
| 00:47.00 | bob2 | SNow: there are 75 000 of them for php, which in particular |
| 00:47.23 | evilkenshin | what do i need to apt-get to be able to watch dvds? |
| 00:47.41 | SNow | I thikn reinstall should help or no bob2? |
| 00:47.45 | mansu | hi all, how do i change the smtp server using which reportbug is sending mails? |
| 00:47.45 | SNow | of php4 and php4-mysql |
| 00:47.45 | Guerin | !dvd |
| 00:47.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, dvd is use xine (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), vlc or ogle (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about decss |
| 00:47.53 | welson | evilkenshin, smthing like libdvd libcss |
| 00:47.54 | welson | !dvd |
| 00:48.01 | Guerin | evilkenshin: also /msg dpkg decss |
| 00:48.47 | bob2 | SNow: no |
| 00:48.48 | liable | mansu: dpkg-reconfigure reportbug |
| 00:48.54 | bob2 | SNow: I'd really like to know what file you're editing, though. |
| 00:49.05 | icyfire0573 | I'm running an IMAP server on Debian/Etch. After a recent upgrade the TLS part no longer functions (When the program is run with SSL enabled it dosen't seem to load at all). I got a message through the debian-devel-announce about libssl-9.7, and I was wondering if this was the problem, or if it was something else, (btw, I was using Courier-IMAP-ssl, and I tried Dovecot IMAP w/SSL and It also wouldn't load with SSL). |
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| 00:49.26 | bob2 | mansu: reportbug --smtphost |
| 00:49.32 | Abilene | one question -- if I get apt-get to install something, do I *STILL* have to edit some files for them to work? |
| 00:49.39 | bob2 | Abilene: depends what it is |
| 00:49.44 | Abilene | php into apache2 |
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| 00:49.46 | Guerin | Abilene: depends on the program and what you want to do with it |
| 00:49.51 | evilkenshin | so i want to rip dvds to my hdd how do i do that? |
| 00:49.59 | Guerin | Abilene: unless you want a 100% vanilla setup, yes. |
| 00:50.11 | Abilene | hmm |
| 00:50.17 | Guerin | evilkenshin: apt-cache search dvd |
| 00:50.21 | liable | evilkenshin: apt-cache search dvd |
| 00:50.25 | Abilene | which file should I edit to allow apache to run php mods? |
| 00:50.27 | Guerin | liable: pwn3d |
| 00:50.28 | liable | !lose me |
| 00:50.31 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 00:50.35 | evilkenshin | apt-cache search dvd |
| 00:50.36 | mansu | liable: i will use that ... thx.. bob2 thx |
| 00:50.48 | bob2 | Abilene: sudo a2enmod php4 |
| 00:50.50 | Guerin | evilkenshin: in a shell |
| 00:50.59 | evilkenshin | yea |
| 00:50.59 | evilkenshin | i did |
| 00:51.04 | TiMiDo | !king me |
| 00:51.06 | SNow | library:/etc/php4/apache# cat php.ini | grep mysql |
| 00:51.06 | SNow | extension=mysql.so |
| 00:51.06 | SNow | mysql.allow_persistent = On |
| 00:51.12 | SNow | everything is fine but not working ;/ |
| 00:51.14 | evilkenshin | thanks |
| 00:51.17 | mansu | liable: that doesnt seem to work... its is not showing any screens |
| 00:51.24 | Abilene | This module is already enabled! |
| 00:51.33 | Abilene | http://www.deafaviator.org/phpinfo.php |
| 00:51.33 | pattieja | deadcat, the grsecurity2 patch does not apply cleanly :( |
| 00:51.44 | SNow | bob2 I managed to work out of this, thankyou :) |
| 00:51.50 | Abilene | <?php phpinfo(); ?> |
| 00:51.54 | Abilene | should work. |
| 00:52.12 | pattieja | 2.4.27 |
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| 00:52.32 | liable | mansu: hrm maybe i just made it up, sec. |
| 00:53.20 | mansu | liable: but i rememember seeing such a solution.. but do not remember what shud be done |
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| 00:53.47 | stew | Abilene: i think you want to echo it: <?=phpinfo()?> |
| 00:54.57 | Abilene | still no go. |
| 00:55.59 | Abilene | MCS:/var/www/apache2-default# ls -alt phpinfo.php |
| 00:55.59 | Abilene | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16 2005-11-01 19:51 phpinfo.php |
| 00:57.24 | evilkenshin | how do i find where my dvd drive is? |
| 00:57.30 | evilkenshin | its not at dev/dvd |
| 00:57.43 | Guerin | evilkenshin: dmesg |
| 00:57.49 | Tortel | try /dev/hda |
| 00:57.52 | Tortel | try /dev/hdd |
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| 00:58.43 | Tortel | :O |
| 00:58.49 | liable | time for some breaky.. |
| 00:58.54 | Tortel | apache runs perfectly on debian |
| 00:59.06 | evilkenshin | i need a css library |
| 00:59.06 | Guerin | Abilene: got libapache2-mod-php4 ? |
| 00:59.10 | Abilene | try run phpinfo(); |
| 00:59.14 | Guerin | evilkenshin: /msg dpkg decss |
| 00:59.16 | Abilene | Guerin: done that. |
| 00:59.28 | Guerin | Abilene: php works too. You just need to configure apache to use it. |
| 00:59.40 | Abilene | which file? |
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| 01:00.03 | Abilene | MCS:/etc/php4/apache# a2enmod php4 |
| 01:00.03 | Abilene | This module is already enabled! |
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| 01:00.13 | Tortel | AHHHHH! |
| 01:00.22 | Tortel | too many satelights in gnome predict |
| 01:00.22 | Guerin | Abilene: I use apache 1, so it's probably different |
| 01:00.23 | Tortel | D: |
| 01:00.27 | Tortel | !eek |
| 01:00.27 | dpkg | eek is, like, a cartoon cat. His homepage is at http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2821/index.htm |
| 01:00.29 | Guerin | Abilene: restarted the apache server? |
| 01:00.37 | Guerin | eek the cat! |
| 01:00.45 | Tortel | lolz |
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| 01:00.58 | Tortel | wooot |
| 01:01.05 | Abilene | restarted and still no go. |
| 01:01.09 | evilkenshin | uhh so are there any css libraries in apt-get? |
| 01:01.15 | Tortel | did you enable php? |
| 01:01.22 | Guerin | evilkenshin: no, due to them being illegal in the USA |
| 01:01.23 | Abilene | in which file? |
| 01:01.25 | evilkenshin | o |
| 01:01.32 | Guerin | Abilene: you need to read some documentation |
| 01:01.52 | Guerin | Abilene: it's probably trivial to do if you follow the instructions; I know it is in apache 1 |
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| 01:02.07 | Guerin | !helpfile libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 01:02.08 | dpkg | For help with libapache2-mod-php4, look in /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-php4 There may be an examples/ directory there as well. |
| 01:02.35 | Tortel | !Heute ist mein tag! |
| 01:02.41 | Tortel | :( |
| 01:02.49 | kozy | hey people, I m trying to configure exim4 for use with smarthost. I need it to send login credentials first. I cannot find a way. Has something to do with AUTH_SERVER_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORDS (I dont use a splitup config) |
| 01:02.53 | JackInTheBox | hello is it possible to put the password automatically when using the command smbpasswd -a user |
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| 01:03.50 | JackInTheBox | hello is it possible to put the password automatically when using the command smbpasswd -a user |
| 01:03.59 | Tortel | !repeat |
| 01:03.59 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 01:04.21 | evilkenshin | how do i compile a texxt file? |
| 01:04.45 | evilkenshin | hmm |
| 01:04.45 | Tortel | !compile |
| 01:04.45 | dpkg | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package, or something you should only do if you're SURE there isn't already a debian package that meets your needs, and never into places that could conflict with dpkg |
| 01:04.56 | Tortel | :o |
| 01:04.57 | Tortel | that worked |
| 01:04.59 | _mark | Anybody know where I can get kde-3.5 .deb files (not kubuntu) ?? |
| 01:05.17 | Tortel | _mark: what did you install? |
| 01:05.20 | evilkenshin | not a tar.gz file buta accual text file |
| 01:05.24 | Tortel | kubuntu or debian? |
| 01:05.36 | Tortel | (No idea then :P) |
| 01:05.37 | evilkenshin | prolly neede a c compiler |
| 01:06.23 | _mark | I have the regular source files (.bz2) but would like to get .deb files. |
| 01:06.29 | Guerin | evilkenshin: yes. You usually need to build *css yourself. |
| 01:06.39 | cheal | _mark: ask #debian-kde |
| 01:06.52 | Guerin | !marillat |
| 01:06.52 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 01:06.55 | _mark | tortel I have debian |
| 01:07.05 | Guerin | evilkenshin: ^ that guy might have packages |
| 01:07.07 | _mark | tortel I have debian; thanks |
| 01:07.32 | Tortel | well, you said not kubuntu |
| 01:07.33 | Tortel | :P |
| 01:07.48 | Tortel | it should all be in the package manager |
| 01:07.52 | Guerin | oh wait |
| 01:07.59 | Guerin | !info libdvdcss2 |
| 01:08.03 | Tortel | try aptitude if you dont have gnome/kde already |
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| 01:08.22 | cheal | Guerin: hehe, no chance |
| 01:08.42 | Tortel | libdvdcss2 is a non-supported package |
| 01:08.45 | Guerin | cheal: yeah, i had a brain fart |
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| 01:08.45 | Tortel | :( |
| 01:08.52 | Guerin | it's in marillat though |
| 01:09.01 | Tortel | yep |
| 01:09.07 | kozy | does anybody have a clue concerning my exim4 question, I'm sure it's quite normal and somebody has it configered this way. Docs say I have to put AUTH_SERVER_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORDS = 1 somewhere, but where? |
| 01:09.07 | cheal | Guerin: don't worry, it already happened to me |
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| 01:09.52 | cheal | !libdvdcss |
| 01:09.52 | dpkg | To get libdvdcss, follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/; or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh |
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| 01:10.08 | Guerin | cheal: ah, the win |
| 01:10.21 | underdog | Hi guys. I know this question may be a bit out of context here, but has anyone had any success plugging in the new motorola phone (the iTunes phone) on linux? |
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| 01:10.33 | Guerin | dpkg, dvd is also ask me about libdvdcss |
| 01:10.33 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 01:10.37 | cheal | Guerin: libdvdcss2 is pretty interesting too |
| 01:10.41 | Guerin | underdog: good luck |
| 01:10.48 | cheal | !libdvdcss2 |
| 01:10.48 | dpkg | methinks libdvdcss2 is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 01:10.56 | Abilene | documents for apache2 and php isn't of any help either. |
| 01:10.56 | underdog | Guerin: why? ;) |
| 01:11.05 | MrBallZ | hahaha |
| 01:11.11 | Guerin | underdog: because apple don't care about users of free software |
| 01:11.15 | MrBallZ | =P |
| 01:11.17 | Guerin | Abilene: lies |
| 01:11.30 | underdog | Guerin: thing is... gtkpod works fine with ipods... |
| 01:11.42 | Guerin | underdog: pure coincidence. |
| 01:11.43 | cheal | Abilene: did you clear your browser's cache? |
| 01:11.47 | underdog | Guerin: what I really wanted to know is if it would work with the new phone |
| 01:12.12 | Guerin | underdog: a mac channel would probably tell you. If it's just a phone with an ipod nano in, it should do |
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| 01:12.17 | Abilene | browser's cache is cleared. |
| 01:12.26 | underdog | Guerin: where would I find such a channel? |
| 01:12.30 | kozy | anybody knows exim4? ;) |
| 01:12.32 | Guerin | underdog: no idea. |
| 01:12.38 | Guerin | kozy: #exim |
| 01:12.39 | Abilene | MCS:/usr/share/doc/php4# zcat README.Debian.gz | less |
| 01:12.43 | Abilene | is that the right file or no? |
| 01:13.05 | Guerin | Abilene: libapache2-mod-php4/* |
| 01:13.14 | Guerin | Abilene: and use zless |
| 01:13.16 | evilkenshin | how do i edit /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 01:13.27 | Guerin | evilkenshin: with an editor like nano, as root |
| 01:13.28 | kozy | k, I'll try that, thanks |
| 01:13.29 | Abilene | MCS:/usr/share/doc/php4# locate libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 01:13.30 | Abilene | MCS:/usr/share/doc/php4# |
| 01:13.32 | Tortel | su, then a text editor |
| 01:13.33 | Abilene | none |
| 01:13.36 | Abilene | updatedb recently. |
| 01:13.48 | Guerin | !info libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 01:13.54 | dpkg | libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-4 (sid), Packaged size: 1532 kB, Installed size: 3072 kB |
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| 01:14.06 | Guerin | Abilene: install that package, like I told you about half an hour ago |
| 01:14.08 | Abilene | I already apt-get installed that. |
| 01:14.13 | Abilene | I ALREADY DID DAMMIT!! |
| 01:14.18 | Abilene | *sheesh* |
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| 01:15.04 | Guerin | Abilene: then your locatedb is out of date, because at the very least it should show the package in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 01:15.16 | Abilene | I updatedb immediately after that. |
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| 01:15.47 | Abilene | apt-get install package | updatedb |
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| 01:15.57 | abrotman | uhm .. it's not called that |
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| 01:16.51 | abrotman | the package is |
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| 01:18.06 | icyfire0573 | I'm running an IMAP server on Debian/Etch. After a recent upgrade the TLS part no longer functions (When the program is run with SSL enabled it dosen't seem to load at all). I got a message through the debian-devel-announce about libssl-9.7, and I was wondering if this was the problem, or if it was something else, (btw, I was using Courier-IMAP-ssl, and I tried Dovecot IMAP w/SSL and It also wouldn't load with SSL). |
| 01:18.06 | evilkenshin | so how do you install nano? |
| 01:18.13 | evilkenshin | i mean save in nano |
| 01:18.15 | abrotman | apt-get install nano |
| 01:18.20 | evilkenshin | scratch that last question |
| 01:18.29 | abrotman | who would run a server with etch? |
| 01:18.42 | nebular | I'm looking to create an extremely light weight livecd for a print server using bootcd. Is there any utility out there that will do an extremely minimal debian installation, or is there a webpage that details techniques for a minimal install? |
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| 01:18.44 | Guerin | Abilene: output of COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 01:18.45 | icyfire0573 | abrotman: an idiot :-(, but its mostly a desktop machine and a server second |
| 01:18.45 | thingfish | ctrl+o |
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| 01:18.50 | fonesic | hi |
| 01:18.52 | fbi | abrotman: someone who is icy, and on fire |
| 01:18.58 | Guerin | Abilene: should be one line, paste it in here |
| 01:19.03 | abrotman | oxymoron ? |
| 01:19.04 | Guerin | bah |
| 01:19.07 | fbi | indeed. |
| 01:19.13 | Guerin | Abilene: paste the important line, not the headers |
| 01:19.14 | Abilene | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 01:19.20 | Abilene | lol |
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| 01:19.20 | Abilene | ok |
| 01:19.21 | abrotman | Guerin: | tail -1 :) |
| 01:19.32 | Abilene | ii libapache2-mod-php4 4.3.10-16 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module |
| 01:19.49 | Guerin | Abilene: output of ls -l /usr/share/doc |
| 01:19.50 | abrotman | what is abilene's real issue ? |
| 01:19.53 | Guerin | BAH |
| 01:19.54 | Guerin | no |
| 01:20.00 | icyfire0573 | any suggestions though, other than going back to sarge? |
| 01:20.02 | Guerin | Abilene: output of ls -l /usr/share/doc |grep libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 01:20.22 | Guerin | Abilene: php not working on apache2 |
| 01:20.26 | Guerin | fucking hell |
| 01:20.29 | Guerin | i need to give up |
| 01:20.46 | magyar | i am using "alsa" as my sound server with Audigy 2 ZX card. I get distortion in KDE sounds and playback. How would i fix it? |
| 01:21.03 | fbi | magyar: check your alsamixer settings |
| 01:21.03 | Guerin | magyar: either kill arts or tell it to use realtime |
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| 01:21.16 | Guerin | magyar: and turn your mixer volumes down below 90% |
| 01:21.34 | magyar | thanks Guerin |
| 01:21.45 | Abilene | MCS:/usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-php4# ls -l /usr/share/doc |grep libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 01:21.48 | Abilene | MCS:/usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-php4# |
| 01:21.56 | cheal | libapache2-mod-php4 should install a /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-php4/ |
| 01:22.24 | Guerin | Abilene: well, that's funky, because the libapache2-mod-php4 package I downloaded has a dir in /usr/share/doc |
| 01:22.34 | evilkenshin | awsome im able to rip a dvd now |
| 01:22.37 | evilkenshin | thanks |
| 01:22.38 | cheal | Abilene: $ dpkg -L libapache2-mod-php4; and look for the files that will list |
| 01:23.00 | cheal | Abilene: if you don't find one, something's wrong |
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| 01:23.18 | Abilene | lists exactly what Guerin says |
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| 01:23.21 | Abilene | but not on my filesystem. |
| 01:23.43 | Guerin | freakshow |
| 01:23.43 | cheal | Abilene: try reinstalling the package |
| 01:23.48 | Abilene | ok |
| 01:23.57 | cheal | Abilene: something still went wrong though |
| 01:24.00 | Abilene | apt-get install will overwrite? |
| 01:24.14 | cheal | Abilene: or you did something...you shouldn't have done |
| 01:24.37 | Abilene | or hard drive failure? |
| 01:24.43 | cheal | Abilene: apt-get --reinstall install should |
| 01:25.14 | cheal | Abilene: well, that might explain, but I would guess a hard drive failure would cause multiple other issues |
| 01:25.47 | Abilene | ok -- let me install on another hard drive. |
| 01:25.53 | Abilene | will come back to that in 1/2 hour. |
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| 01:27.23 | magyar | Guerin, after i set realtime for artswrapper, do i need to reboot? |
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| 01:27.37 | Guerin | magyar: shouldn't do. |
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| 01:27.55 | Mik0 | how do i undo chmod go-x /home/user, they can't type "ls" and stuff... |
| 01:28.15 | magyar | Guerin, HUP for KDE? |
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| 01:28.28 | Guerin | magyar: dunno. I'd doubt it. |
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| 01:28.35 | magyar | k |
| 01:28.36 | Guerin | magyar: it's probably just renice -19 |
| 01:28.46 | magyar | Guerin, roger |
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| 01:29.56 | aedwards | Anyone know where I can find the sata drivers in 2.6.14 config? |
| 01:30.39 | aedwards | Under ATA section it shows a depreciated driver that the info claims to have a conflict with libata. |
| 01:32.26 | JackInTheBox | what is the command in chmod that let only the user open modify a file? |
| 01:33.18 | FlimFlamMan | i can't seem to access a scsi tape through /dev/nst0 or /dev/st0 ... |
| 01:33.18 | FlimFlamMan | when i insert a tape , dmesg shows: st: Version 20040403, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256 ... so it's seeing the tape... |
| 01:33.18 | FlimFlamMan | but "mt -f /dev/nst0 status" returns: mt: /dev/nst0: No such device or address |
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| 01:34.36 | SeicherlB | is anybody experienced in setting up php4 on apache2 under debian? |
| 01:35.19 | Guerin | SeicherlB: plenty of people, but nont of them appear to be here |
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| 01:35.43 | abrotman | yes .. many people |
| 01:35.44 | SeicherlB | lol.... well, i tryed #apache and #php |
| 01:35.58 | SeicherlB | theres nobody willing to tell me |
| 01:36.00 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: it should just work; you just need to install the proper module, and make sure it loads. Not much to it. |
| 01:36.02 | SeicherlB | anybody in here? |
| 01:36.09 | abrotman | SeicherlB: many people use php |
| 01:36.09 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: just ask your question already. |
| 01:36.19 | SeicherlB | ok, i installed apache2 |
| 01:36.28 | dondelelcaro | which apache2? |
| 01:36.33 | SeicherlB | well... |
| 01:36.34 | abrotman | there is a problem where when you install php extensions .. it only updates the php.ini for the last vresion of php installed ... |
| 01:36.39 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: well, Abilene installed libapache2-mod-php4 and did a2enmod php4; and no dice |
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| 01:36.51 | Guerin | but hell, I've never done it ... |
| 01:37.03 | SeicherlB | apache 2.0.54-5 |
| 01:37.17 | SeicherlB | i installed php4 |
| 01:37.30 | abrotman | libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 01:37.34 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: again, which apache package, and which php4 module package? |
| 01:37.37 | cheal | dpkg: no, libdvdcss is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh |
| 01:37.37 | dpkg | okay, cheal |
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| 01:37.44 | SeicherlB | i got that module already |
| 01:37.51 | cheal | dpkg: no, libdvdcss2 is <reply> see libdvdcss |
| 01:37.52 | dpkg | cheal: okay |
| 01:38.25 | SeicherlB | @abrotman: I got that module, but i cant find it |
| 01:38.41 | abrotman | is SeicherlB abilene ? |
| 01:38.52 | SeicherlB | wtf?! |
| 01:39.07 | SeicherlB | abilene? |
| 01:39.16 | abrotman | SeicherlB: does it not work ? |
| 01:39.21 | SeicherlB | nope |
| 01:39.25 | Guerin | SeicherlB: someone from about half an hour ago with an identical problem |
| 01:39.33 | SeicherlB | lol |
| 01:39.41 | Gnea | abrotman: i met a cutie from abilene once ;) |
| 01:39.49 | abrotman | Gnea: you lie |
| 01:40.05 | SeicherlB | so can u guys help me out? |
| 01:40.06 | Gnea | abrotman: no joke. she was going to school there, i was moving from one coast to the other. :) |
| 01:40.34 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: have you restarted apache? is php4.load in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled? does your apache2 configuration Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ? |
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| 01:40.59 | SeicherlB | well... i can't find php4.load. but hold on a second |
| 01:41.03 | abrotman | how do you know php doesn't work ? |
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| 01:41.22 | SeicherlB | cause my browser wants to download the php-site |
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| 01:41.35 | SeicherlB | no, i cant find php4.load on my system |
| 01:41.40 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: if you can't find php4.load, then it's not going to work. |
| 01:41.52 | SeicherlB | well, tell me more news |
| 01:41.56 | SeicherlB | ^^ |
| 01:42.02 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: it's in libapache2-mod-php4 at least on stable. |
| 01:42.06 | mhall | How do I setup an NF4 board's nvRAID? It's unclear what I must do to set up the RAID before I install an OS. |
| 01:42.17 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: if you don't have it, use force-confmiss and reinstall libapache2-modphp4 |
| 01:42.17 | SeicherlB | yes, i installed that, but its not there |
| 01:42.19 | abrotman | SeicherlB: look in /etc/apache2/mods-available .. are there any php files ? |
| 01:42.22 | dondelelcaro | s/modphp/mod-php4/ |
| 01:42.30 | karsten | So, did iso9660 get rolled up into isofs? |
| 01:42.33 | dondelelcaro | !confmiss |
| 01:42.33 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 01:43.04 | SeicherlB | ok, hold on, ill try |
| 01:43.52 | Gnea | karsten: eh? |
| 01:44.02 | SeicherlB | this doesnt work: "dpkg --force-confmiss libapache2-mod-php4" |
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| 01:44.23 | karsten | Gnea: On my current Debian box, 'lsof' shows no 'iso9660' modules loaded, though I've got 'isofs' up. |
| 01:44.23 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: of course it doesn't. Use the second variant given. |
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| 01:44.40 | karsten | Gnea: If I mount a CD, isofs's reference count increments from 1 to 2. |
| 01:44.40 | Gnea | SeicherlB: to install? |
| 01:44.42 | abrotman | karsten: you mean lsmod ? |
| 01:44.43 | SeicherlB | which, sorry, im confused |
| 01:44.44 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: dpkg works on .debs, apt-get works on package names. |
| 01:44.55 | tag | if I have a screwed up program in my dpkg queue (whenver I try to use apt it tells me to dpkg --configure -a ...but if I do that, debian shuts down) how do I just make it stop? |
| 01:44.56 | karsten | abrotman: Um. Yeah. |
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| 01:45.03 | karsten | abrotman: Good RWIMNWIS eyes there. |
| 01:45.06 | Gnea | karsten: lsof lists open files, not loaded modules. i think you mean lsmod. |
| 01:45.07 | tag | like "Don't processes that you fucker, just give up" |
| 01:45.07 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install libapache2-mod-php4; |
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| 01:45.20 | dondelelcaro | !bat |
| 01:45.20 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
| 01:45.22 | abrotman | karsten: i have a disease in my eyes ? |
| 01:45.34 | mcl | what the command voor Xorg |
| 01:45.35 | karsten | !rwimnwis |
| 01:45.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, rwimnwis is read what I mean, not what I say. |
| 01:45.46 | terr_ | I have recently installed a CD burner adn I don't know how to configure it - what is the 1st step? |
| 01:45.57 | karsten | abrotman: Apparantly more of a disdisease than a disease. |
| 01:45.58 | SeicherlB | ok, looks like its reinstalling now |
| 01:46.00 | Abilene | did badblock on my hd -- it is failing BIG time. |
| 01:46.00 | JackInTheBox | how can i set in chmod that only the owner can acces read write execute a folder? |
| 01:46.11 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:46.16 | karsten | JackInTheBox: chmod 700 <foo> |
| 01:46.17 | abrotman | Abilene: to Guerin ? |
| 01:46.19 | dondelelcaro | JackInTheBox: go-rwx foodir; |
| 01:46.22 | enveezee | abrotman: chmod 700 |
| 01:46.23 | mcl | what the command voor X for configuration |
| 01:46.27 | Abilene | and to Guerin too. |
| 01:46.29 | abrotman | enveezee: you cannot read me! |
| 01:46.31 | dondelelcaro | !drxx mcl |
| 01:46.31 | Roey | mcl: hehehe, you said voor |
| 01:46.32 | dpkg | mcl: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:46.35 | karsten | !tell mcl about configure x |
| 01:46.39 | Gnea | Abilene: that's okay, it could've been worse. |
| 01:46.41 | SeicherlB | ok... and now? there's still no php4.load |
| 01:46.57 | enveezee | I slept too damn long |
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| 01:47.07 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: are you running debian? There will be one in /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load |
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| 01:47.30 | SeicherlB | i guess no, but ill have a closer look personal for u |
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| 01:47.44 | karsten | Gnea: At any rate, I don't see iso9660 referenced, just isofs. Yes, lsmod., |
| 01:47.47 | eob84 | has anyone ever set up a proftpd server? |
| 01:47.48 | karsten | !u |
| 01:47.48 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:47.52 | karsten | eob84: No. |
| 01:47.57 | dondelelcaro | if there isn't, then you're either 1) not running Debian 2) not using the Debian package 3) blind 4) inputed the apt-get command wrong. |
| 01:48.00 | karsten | !tell eob84 about smart questions. |
| 01:48.02 | SeicherlB | it wasnt there 15 minutes ago ;) |
| 01:48.12 | Gnea | karsten: what happens if you cat /proc/filesystems ? |
| 01:48.22 | eob84 | what is that |
| 01:48.24 | karsten | Gnea: That lists it. |
| 01:48.26 | eob84 | that doesn't help me |
| 01:48.29 | SeicherlB | ok, so what to do now? copy it? |
| 01:48.48 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: no, now you check that there is a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ pointing to php4.load and php4.conf |
| 01:49.02 | SeicherlB | ok, ill check. |
| 01:49.02 | abrotman | a2enmod works well :) |
| 01:49.05 | eob84 | I am trying to figure out how to log in to my proftpd srever... I can't seem to figure out where the user information is stored |
| 01:49.09 | Gnea | karsten :) |
| 01:49.10 | karsten | Gnea: ... as does output for the Knoppix disk which _also_ works. But not IIRC the disk for which it didn't. |
| 01:49.25 | Gnea | eob84: you just need to have a user account on the system |
| 01:49.27 | karsten | Gnea: It's compiled modular though, not w/in kernel. |
| 01:49.28 | SeicherlB | sorry, you mean a "link"-link? |
| 01:49.32 | eob84 | Gnea... I do |
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| 01:49.42 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: I said symlink. I meant symlink. |
| 01:49.47 | SeicherlB | *g* |
| 01:49.52 | Gnea | eob84: ok so just login with those credentials |
| 01:49.59 | eob84 | Gnea... they don't work |
| 01:50.08 | Gnea | karsten: does it not get loaded at boottime? |
| 01:50.10 | enveezee | yee haw. called the exterminator about my roach problem.. or the plumber about my empty pipes if you will |
| 01:50.26 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: you don't need to create them. Just tell me if they exist or not. |
| 01:50.31 | abrotman | use a2enmod instead |
| 01:50.33 | enveezee | nothing like delivery service |
| 01:50.33 | Gnea | eob84: why not? what does /var/log/daemon.log have to say about it? is there a /var/log/proftpd/ ? |
| 01:50.35 | karsten | Gnea: Well, I'm talking about a couple of different systems here. |
| 01:50.38 | abrotman | enveezee: say what ? |
| 01:50.46 | SeicherlB | ahm... yes |
| 01:50.51 | enveezee | abrotman: I got me some drugs :P |
| 01:50.58 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: do they exist? |
| 01:51.01 | SeicherlB | yes |
| 01:51.02 | abrotman | enveezee: you have roaches .. and you got drugs for them? |
| 01:51.06 | karsten | Gnea: .... but on my present workstation, no, the iso9660 module isn't loaded at all. Including when I've got a CD actively mounted. |
| 01:51.19 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: restart apache2. /etc/init.d/apache2 restart; |
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| 01:51.21 | Gnea | karsten: is it a stock kernel or customized? |
| 01:51.22 | enveezee | abrotman: roaches are drugs, look up on wikipedia I am sure it know |
| 01:51.55 | SeicherlB | still not working |
| 01:52.06 | karsten | Gnea: Stock. |
| 01:52.07 | abrotman | enveezee: i know what a drug roach is .. i'm concerned you're getting smack for the roaches though |
| 01:52.13 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: then telnet localhost 80; GET / HTTP/1.1<enter><enter>; and give me the Server: line |
| 01:52.16 | karsten | Gnea: Linux miles 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Thu May 19 17:53:30 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:52.30 | karsten | Gnea: Linux version 2.6.8-2-686 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu May 19 17:53:30 JST 2005 |
| 01:52.35 | enveezee | abrotman: no smack for the roaches :P |
| 01:52.53 | dondelelcaro | (or HEAD localhost|grep Server; if you have libwww-perl installed) |
| 01:53.32 | karsten | Gnea: Best I can tell, the isofs module's providing iso9660 FS support. |
| 01:53.32 | dondelelcaro | (or wget -S --spider localhost |
| 01:53.51 | abrotman | enveezee: to get more smack ? |
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| 01:54.01 | enveezee | to get some trees |
| 01:54.12 | mhall | enveezee: i should change my name to emaitchayellell |
| 01:54.15 | Gnea | karsten: it's not in /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/fs/ ? |
| 01:54.16 | enveezee | special delivery |
| 01:54.18 | abrotman | enveezee: leaves ? |
| 01:54.32 | Gnea | karsten: i've never heard of that happening before |
| 01:54.34 | SeicherlB | erm... nothing... just tells me that the escape-character is '^]' |
| 01:54.42 | karsten | Gnea: $ find /lib/modules/ -name \*iso9660\* | wc -l |
| 01:54.42 | karsten | 0 |
| 01:54.51 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: GET / HTTP/1.1<enter><enter> |
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| 01:55.11 | SeicherlB | ah |
| 01:55.29 | RichiH | hmm |
| 01:55.34 | SeicherlB | gives me a bad request |
| 01:55.37 | eob84 | gnea I get a mod_delay/0.4: delaying for 7764 usecs |
| 01:55.40 | eob84 | that is it |
| 01:55.50 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: yes, it will. I just care about the Server: line, which it will give you. |
| 01:55.52 | wang | can anyone recommend a good mail client other than Evolution? |
| 01:55.57 | dondelelcaro | wang: mutt. |
| 01:55.57 | SeicherlB | Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.10-16 |
| 01:56.01 | RichiH | i put this into a file in /etc/cron.d/ : |
| 01:56.02 | RichiH | 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,44,45,50,55 * * * * whoami > /tmp/whoami ; touch /tmp/testtouch |
| 01:56.07 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: so php4 is working, and loaded. |
| 01:56.13 | SeicherlB | i see |
| 01:56.14 | RichiH | and for some reason, that will not get executed |
| 01:56.14 | alamela_ | wang, slypheed :) |
| 01:56.16 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: */5 * * * * is your friend |
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| 01:56.20 | abrotman | wang: balsa, kmail, packages.debian.org/stable/Mail (or mail) |
| 01:56.27 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: but the touch isn't going to get run... |
| 01:56.27 | SeicherlB | but why does he still want to download the php-file?! |
| 01:56.34 | Gnea | karsten: that's very weird. so if it's not in /proc/filesystems then you got a bunk kernel |
| 01:56.50 | dondelelcaro | SeicherlB: have you hit reload? restart your browser. |
| 01:56.52 | karsten | Gnea: iso9660 *IS* in /proc/filesystems |
| 01:56.58 | SeicherlB | yep |
| 01:57.00 | Gnea | then it should *work* |
| 01:57.00 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: k, thanks. but even then, the whoami part should run |
| 01:57.04 | SeicherlB | try another browser... |
| 01:57.12 | Gnea | karsten: are you mounting as user or root? |
| 01:57.15 | SeicherlB | OH |
| 01:57.18 | karsten | Gnea: What I'm trying to do is troubleshoot a _different_ system which has problems mounting a CD (it's a bootable disk thing). |
| 01:57.41 | Gnea | karsten: and i'm referring to *that* system |
| 01:57.46 | SeicherlB | there's something going on |
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| 01:57.49 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: right, check your cron logs to see what's going on there. |
| 01:57.51 | eob84 | Gnea I get a mod_delay/0.4: delaying for 7764 usecs |
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| 01:57.58 | SeicherlB | got it |
| 01:58.01 | karsten | Gnea: ... and I'm a bit confused about how my workstation, which *DOES* mount CDs, but which does *NOT* have iso6990 module loaded, is working. |
| 01:58.03 | SeicherlB | browser-cache |
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| 01:58.07 | TermaKill | hello |
| 01:58.12 | Gnea | eob84: what does apache have to do with proftpd? |
| 01:58.19 | karsten | Gnea: ... that system isn't currently mounted, and is a half a building away. |
| 01:58.24 | karsten | Gnea: Thanks though. |
| 01:58.32 | Gnea | karsten: it's built into the kernel. |
| 01:58.48 | eob84 | Gnea it says proftpd |
| 01:58.56 | eob84 | Gnea I assume nothing |
| 01:58.59 | SeicherlB | @dondelcaro: Thanks a lot! Now its 3:00 am here and i can go to bed |
| 01:59.01 | fayex | how do i prevent a specific package from being upgraded accidentally? i used dpkg-buildpackage because i needed to modify one compile-time setting and don't want apt-get upgrade to overwrite this version if the package gets updated |
| 01:59.02 | enveezee | too cold to be out there without shoes |
| 01:59.06 | Gnea | eob84: that's not very descriptive. what ftp client are youusing? |
| 01:59.08 | dondelelcaro | fayex: hold it. |
| 01:59.13 | dondelelcaro | !hold |
| 01:59.13 | dpkg | from memory, hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
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| 01:59.18 | fayex | thanks!!! |
| 01:59.19 | eob84 | Gnea proftpd |
| 01:59.29 | Gnea | eob84: proftpd is a server, not a client. |
| 01:59.35 | Gnea | !helixsmite eob84 |
| 01:59.36 | enveezee | its a sad day when a hillbilly has to wear shoes |
| 01:59.53 | eob84 | Gnea... did I say client? |
| 02:00.04 | Gnea | eob84: 18:59 < Gnea> eob84: that's not very descriptive. what ftp client are youusing? |
| 02:00.07 | Gnea | 18:59 < eob84> Gnea proftpd |
| 02:00.22 | eob84 | ahh I see |
| 02:00.27 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:00.28 | eob84 | when I first asked I asked |
| 02:00.30 | eob84 | I am trying to figure out how to log in to my proftpd srever... I can't seem to figure out where the user information is stored |
| 02:00.36 | eob84 | up above |
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| 02:00.44 | Gnea | and as i said |
| 02:00.50 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: duh. should of come to _that_ conclusion, myself.. |
| 02:00.52 | RichiH | cron[3323]: Error: bad username; while reading /etc/cron.d/check_server |
| 02:00.54 | Gnea | you need to have an account on the system that proftpd is running on |
| 02:01.01 | eob84 | and I do |
| 02:01.06 | eob84 | I have two |
| 02:01.14 | Gnea | it's even further possible that proftpd is not configured properly |
| 02:01.20 | eob84 | does it need to be in a special group? |
| 02:01.29 | eob84 | theu user^ |
| 02:01.40 | Gnea | but then you said something about mod_delay/, which made me think "web browser" which is *NOT* a proper ftp client to be using to test with. |
| 02:01.56 | eob84 | I am using a web browser |
| 02:02.04 | Gnea | well that's no good then |
| 02:02.13 | Gnea | you need a real ftp client |
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| 02:02.23 | Gnea | try gftp |
| 02:02.31 | eob84 | file zilla? |
| 02:02.32 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: what i don't get is that the file belongs to root, though. and none of the other files need setuid or anything to get executed |
| 02:02.38 | Gnea | apt-get |
| 02:02.44 | eob84 | I am in windows |
| 02:02.51 | eob84 | I am just useing it as a server |
| 02:02.54 | Gnea | ... |
| 02:02.57 | Gnea | try leechftp |
| 02:03.05 | eob84 | File Zilla is the same thing |
| 02:03.06 | Gnea | just google for it |
| 02:03.08 | wang | eob84 : get leechftp |
| 02:03.12 | Gnea | no it's not. |
| 02:03.16 | eob84 | you have to pay for that |
| 02:03.21 | Gnea | no you don't. |
| 02:03.22 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:03.31 | eob84 | yea it is only 30 day triea; |
| 02:03.39 | eob84 | which has expired allready |
| 02:03.40 | Gnea | leechftp? nope. |
| 02:03.45 | Gnea | you are wrong. |
| 02:04.04 | Gnea | go to the german site |
| 02:04.09 | Gnea | !google leechftp |
| 02:04.17 | dpkg | Google says leechftp is at http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~jdebis/leechftp/ or http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~jdebis/leechftp/downloads.html or http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~jdebis/ or http://www.download.com/Leech-FTP/3000-2356_4-10122208.html or http://www.download.com/3000-2160-910016.html?legacy=cnet |
| 02:04.17 | wang | leechftp is 100 |
| 02:04.20 | Gnea | first link. |
| 02:04.23 | wang | leechftp is 100% free |
| 02:04.27 | Gnea | get it, it's *FREE* |
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| 02:04.38 | Gnea | in the yellow box on the webpage |
| 02:04.39 | Gnea | can't miss it |
| 02:04.44 | wang | and it works |
| 02:04.55 | wang | better than most ftp clients that i've pirated =P |
| 02:05.01 | Gnea | lol |
| 02:05.02 | eob84 | invalid username or password |
| 02:05.22 | Gnea | do not go to bitbeamer |
| 02:05.28 | Gnea | go to the 'proceed to...' link |
| 02:05.30 | Gnea | at the bottom |
| 02:05.35 | wang | hold on i'll get you a working link |
| 02:05.46 | wang | there ya go. |
| 02:06.02 | Gnea | http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~jdebis/leechftp/downloads.html |
| 02:06.16 | Gnea | wang: i don't think he knows how to use google very well. |
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| 02:06.27 | eob84 | I found it |
| 02:06.32 | eob84 | I am useing it |
| 02:06.46 | Gnea | and you see how much better it is? |
| 02:06.47 | dondelelcaro | it is all about lftp. |
| 02:06.51 | eob84 | invalid username and password |
| 02:06.54 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: werd |
| 02:06.55 | wang | anyone have any ideas why evolution might be popping up a dialog box when automaticly fetching mail requesting my password constantly? |
| 02:07.06 | dondelelcaro | wang: because it's evolution? |
| 02:07.13 | Gnea | eob84: then you probably need to reconfigure proftpd - just edit /etc/proftpd.conf |
| 02:07.21 | dondelelcaro | and it can? and you'll keep filling in the password again and again and again? |
| 02:07.32 | eob84 | this thing isn't socumented to well is it? |
| 02:07.36 | eob84 | documented |
| 02:07.56 | bob2 | praise the lord! |
| 02:08.24 | dondelelcaro | bob2: yeah; I've become too addicted to that... I'm now using svn homedirs and almost everything is now synched... |
| 02:08.33 | wang | thank god for ignore |
| 02:08.38 | bob2 | hah |
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| 02:09.12 | Abilene | I'm installing debian into my system now. |
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| 02:09.20 | wang | congratulations |
| 02:09.22 | wang | =) |
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| 02:11.12 | fas3r | hi all |
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| 02:12.03 | enveezee | not yet, but I am working on it |
| 02:12.36 | fas3r | for vlc in line command .. for launch vlc with the max sound it's vlc --volume 10 ??? i don't undderstand the word integer ... |
| 02:12.37 | terr_ | I've got a problem with printing from xpdf via CUPS. It thinks it need A4 paper. I don't se a way to tell it to print on what is in the printer. Is this in the docuument? |
| 02:13.51 | dondelelcaro | terr_: yes, it is in the document, but it should be able to deal with just using letter; cat /etc/papersize to double check that's configured properly. |
| 02:14.03 | eob84 | well I don't understand this at all |
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| 02:15.00 | mzilikazi | easiest way to email an attatchment w/ cron? |
| 02:16.05 | terr_ | dondelelcaro: papersize says A4. what is the proper entry? |
| 02:16.15 | dondelelcaro | terr_: letter if you want to print to letter. |
| 02:16.26 | dondelelcaro | terr_: change it, then restart xpdf and print it again |
| 02:16.35 | fas3r | nobody use vlc? |
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| 02:16.46 | cheal | fas3r: yes, people in #videolan |
| 02:16.51 | cheal | fas3r: see audio preferences |
| 02:17.15 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 02:17.15 | Tortel | if i have multiple sessions running using ctrl+alt+f{1-7}, will it slow preformance? |
| 02:17.33 | evilkenshin | how do you set up a wireless card on debian? |
| 02:17.53 | Tortel | !wireless |
| 02:17.53 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux |
| 02:17.55 | tung | im not a kernel expert, how do I make sure that a CpuFreq interface is in my kernel? |
| 02:17.56 | dondelelcaro | evilkenshin: plug it in, load the module, edit /etc/network/interfaces; away you go. |
| 02:18.00 | terr_ | dondelelcaro: that should ahve been docuumented somewhere. Hey - thanks |
| 02:18.01 | fas3r | i haven't mouse and i want to run vlc in line command with the volume in max ... i know it's option --volume but --volumes what ...? 10? max? |
| 02:18.11 | bob2 | mzilikazi: echo message body | mutt -a foo.txt who@where.com -s"subject" |
| 02:18.16 | evilkenshin | its internal wireleess |
| 02:18.30 | cheal | fas3r: find out checking audio preferences |
| 02:18.32 | Tortel | !wireless |
| 02:18.32 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux |
| 02:18.32 | tung | im trying to get cpufreqd to work on my dell 600m notebook: here's my codepaste: http://code.bulix.org/833 |
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| 02:18.56 | mzilikazi | bob2: ah perfect! thanks :) |
| 02:19.01 | poncha | hi. |
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| 02:19.18 | dondelelcaro | terr_: it is; less /usr/share/doc/libpaper1/...; most importantly, you should have been asked by debconf, but the default is a4... |
| 02:19.22 | fas3r | cheal i don't find on google...; |
| 02:19.26 | poncha | any idea where (if) marillat packages exist for amd64 arch ? |
| 02:19.43 | dondelelcaro | terr_: in any case, almost everything in Debian uses libpaper for figuring out the default paper size when you haven't specified it on the commandline. |
| 02:19.43 | bodom | I'm a web developer looking for a distro that'll get me going right away, i don't have the time to learn Linux all at once (with slack for example) because i need somethings up asap, as i make my money on the computer solely |
| 02:19.54 | bob2 | tung: grep FREQ /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 02:19.57 | bodom | I was lead here by people in #linux, who told me Debian was polished and fast |
| 02:20.07 | cheal | fas3r: launch vlc. go in parameters menu, preferences, audio |
| 02:20.12 | dondelelcaro | bodom: are you going to be using this as a server? or as your desktop? |
| 02:20.20 | bodom | a desktop pc, |
| 02:20.27 | dondelelcaro | bodom: have you used linux before? |
| 02:20.49 | bodom | I've used approximetly 30-40 live cds and actual distros... but for a few days and some 1-2 weeks each |
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| 02:20.59 | fas3r | cheal I DONT HAVE MOUSE |
| 02:21.07 | tung | bob2: thanks |
| 02:21.09 | Tortel | bodom: you ok with command line? |
| 02:21.14 | bodom | ... = / |
| 02:21.17 | bob2 | tung: what did it say? |
| 02:21.24 | Tortel | ill take that as a HELL NO! |
| 02:21.26 | Tortel | ok |
| 02:21.27 | bodom | Basic commands, moving around, copying files, extracting archives etc |
| 02:21.29 | bodom | not much... |
| 02:21.44 | magyar | where do i get jre plugin for firefox? |
| 02:21.45 | dondelelcaro | bodom: well, Debian is fairly simple to set up and get things going if you're reaonably familiar with GNU/Linux and willing to spend some time reading and learning; if not, then you may want to use Ubuntu or similar until you're ready to invest the time in Debian. |
| 02:21.51 | Tortel | bodom: I would suggest a ubuntu release to get started cause it comes with gnome |
| 02:22.01 | bodom | I hate gnome. |
| 02:22.01 | Tortel | lolz |
| 02:22.03 | bodom | and KDE : ( |
| 02:22.05 | Metrics | bodom: Or kubuntu ;-) |
| 02:22.05 | Tortel | kubunut |
| 02:22.09 | Tortel | ok |
| 02:22.15 | bodom | I like flux/xfce4 alot |
| 02:22.17 | dondelelcaro | bodom: well, then use Debian, and install exactly what you want. |
| 02:22.28 | bodom | so your able to recommend it? :D |
| 02:22.37 | Tortel | (Ubuntu is the easiest pre-installed with a display manager) |
| 02:22.45 | tung | bob2: http://code.bulix.org/834 |
| 02:22.46 | Abilene | interesting -- psql is Debian's default Db. |
| 02:22.47 | dondelelcaro | bodom: I use it everywhere, so obviously I'll recommend it. |
| 02:22.55 | bob2 | Abilene: no it's not |
| 02:22.56 | dondelelcaro | Abilene: we don't have a default database. |
| 02:22.59 | Metrics | Second the recommends. |
| 02:23.02 | bodom | I don't need something to do everything for me, its that i make my money solely on a cxomputer |
| 02:23.11 | bodom | so i need things like my hardware and proper applications u pasap |
| 02:23.12 | dondelelcaro | if we did, the closest thing would probably be libdb4 |
| 02:23.12 | bodom | asap* |
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| 02:23.28 | bodom | I've used ubuntu in the past, around 5.04 i think it was |
| 02:23.35 | dondelelcaro | bodom: if the kernel supports your hardware, almost all of the applications you'll need are in Debian already. |
| 02:23.41 | tung | bob2: it says, CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y, so does that mean CpuFreq is already installed? |
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| 02:23.56 | Metrics | bodom: Just grab the Sarge installer, install and you should have everything you need via aptitude. |
| 02:23.56 | phrontist | hello, anybody here? |
| 02:24.04 | Metrics | No |
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| 02:24.17 | bob2 | tung: it has the interface stuff, but not neccesseraily support for your hardware |
| 02:24.18 | tung | bob2: you got any idea why "apt-get install cpufreqd" is complaining |
| 02:24.40 | bob2 | tung: sudo modprobe cpufreq_userspace |
| 02:24.51 | phrontist | Installing windows wiped out my MBR, I'd like to install LILO/GRUB/Anything so I can boot back into debian again... I'm currently booted into Knoppix on the machine in question |
| 02:24.56 | bodom | er, "Sarge" installer ?! |
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| 02:25.13 | cheal | fas3r: you can still go in that menu. but the max volume on my machine is 1024 |
| 02:25.14 | tung | bob2: that returned nothing |
| 02:25.15 | bob2 | phrontist: chroot into the Debian machine and run 'grub-install /dev/whateveryourbootdriveis' |
| 02:25.20 | bob2 | tung: that's fine |
| 02:25.28 | Metrics | bodom: Debian Sarge. Latest stable release. |
| 02:25.54 | fas3r | cheal for the integer value the max was 1024, it's that? |
| 02:26.03 | cheal | fas3r: yes |
| 02:26.05 | Metrics | bodom: Check here... http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 02:26.29 | bob2 | tung: try installing it again |
| 02:26.36 | phrontist | bob2: okay... I'm not quite sure how to do that... |
| 02:26.49 | phrontist | my debian partition is hda5... |
| 02:26.57 | phrontist | I've mounted it read/write |
| 02:27.11 | bob2 | phrontist: chroot /mnt/whereveritis/ /bin/bash |
| 02:27.12 | RichiH | ok, after some googling, which was rather devoid of hard facts, i poked the sourcecode and it appears that if there is no password set (dunno where it wants to get that from), it will set the username of the execution to the name of the file. then, it gets the password by doing getpwnam($username) and if that is NULL, it exits. the thing is, my file is named richih, who has a password, so why would cron not execute the trice-damned file? |
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| 02:27.22 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: if you have any insight on above? |
| 02:27.29 | bob2 | phrontist: then you'll be "inside" the debian system. run 'grub-install /dev/hda', assuming hda is your boot disk |
| 02:27.54 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: how did you install this crontab? |
| 02:28.08 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: i created the file by hand |
| 02:28.22 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: you should install it by going crontab file; |
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| 02:28.29 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: installing it by hand is a bad idea |
| 02:28.38 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: obviously ;) |
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| 02:28.54 | tung | bob2: complaining about not having a cpufreq interface: http://code.bulix.org/835 |
| 02:29.13 | phrontist | bob2: okay, I ran "grub-install /dev/hda" after chroot-ing and received a few lines along the lines of "/sbin/grub-install: line 4xx: /dev/null: Permission Denied" |
| 02:29.19 | phrontist | and then |
| 02:29.29 | phrontist | "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" |
| 02:29.37 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: still, from what i can see of the source code, it should work (tm) |
| 02:30.03 | bob2 | phrontist: you have a seperate /boot? |
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| 02:30.26 | phrontist | bob2: I have no idea... |
| 02:30.32 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: probably, but it has to be youruser.crontab; and with the proper permisions and everything |
| 02:30.48 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: far easier just to use crontab which is setgid crontab already to deal with it properly. |
| 02:31.20 | Metrics | phrontist: If you're using knoppix make sure the disks are mounted rw. |
| 02:31.34 | Metrics | phrontist:Sorry. Already are. |
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| 02:32.06 | WiFiTux | cool, new Debian/Solaris. ;-) |
| 02:32.20 | phrontist | Metrics: actually, now that I look, it appears they aren't :-( |
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| 02:32.31 | evilkenshin | im still coonfused on how to set up my wirelesss card |
| 02:32.34 | bob2 | tung: echo userspace | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 02:32.34 | phrontist | I right clicked on the provided KDE disk icon |
| 02:32.45 | phrontist | and told it to set it writable |
| 02:32.49 | phrontist | yet it doesn't seem to work... |
| 02:33.03 | Metrics | Try just touching a file to test. |
| 02:33.04 | phrontist | what is the remount command to set it writable... |
| 02:33.04 | alan` | how do I get KDE 2 work on Debian] |
| 02:33.15 | brian_ | hi all, I'm logged into my desktop from my laptop over ssh, and it tells my that I'm logged in from bent.cisco.com ...?? anyone know were it is getting this from? |
| 02:33.22 | dondelelcaro | alan`: just apt-get install kde; |
| 02:33.26 | alan` | k |
| 02:33.27 | bob2 | brian_: from your rdns |
| 02:33.30 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: true |
| 02:33.34 | abrotman | kde2 ? |
| 02:33.36 | phrontist | Metrics: it's not writable... how do I make it so? |
| 02:33.38 | abrotman | oh .. nm |
| 02:33.41 | Metrics | one sec. |
| 02:33.44 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: the positive side is, i will remember that one indefinately ;) |
| 02:33.56 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: heh |
| 02:34.03 | brian_ | bob2, ok ..should i be conserned? |
| 02:34.16 | phrontist | Metrics: ah, okay, now it is |
| 02:34.18 | phrontist | the touch worked |
| 02:34.21 | alan` | it says that the package can't b installed |
| 02:34.22 | Metrics | Excellent. |
| 02:34.31 | alan` | E: Broken Packages\ |
| 02:34.53 | phrontist | re-running grub-install produces the same result though... |
| 02:35.05 | Metrics | And that is... |
| 02:35.10 | phrontist | see above... |
| 02:35.15 | phrontist | (I could re-paste...) |
| 02:35.34 | Metrics | It's okay. |
| 02:35.39 | tung | bob2: i dont have a cpufreq directory in the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ folder; http://code.bulix.org/836 |
| 02:35.47 | dondelelcaro | !bat |
| 02:35.47 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
| 02:35.52 | dondelelcaro | alan`: follow the above instructions |
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| 02:36.16 | Metrics | Permission problems as well? |
| 02:36.22 | brian_ | bob2, by rdns you mean reverse dns? |
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| 02:36.40 | bob2 | brian_: yes |
| 02:36.43 | phrontist | Metrics: I don't see how... I thought permissions were immaterial in dealing with chroot... |
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| 02:37.10 | Metrics | If you're in the chroot, then maybe not. Have you tried it as root in the chroot? |
| 02:37.39 | bob2 | tung: guess you need to manually load the right speedstep module for your hardware first |
| 02:37.47 | phrontist | okay |
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| 02:37.51 | phrontist | I typed su in the chrrot |
| 02:37.53 | phrontist | *chroot |
| 02:37.56 | phrontist | and ran it again |
| 02:37.58 | phrontist | to no avail... |
| 02:38.01 | phrontist | same result |
| 02:38.12 | Abilene | what is the setup utility that configures network settings? |
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| 02:38.22 | abrotman | !tell Abilene about interfaces |
| 02:38.44 | alan` | ??? |
| 02:38.46 | alan` | how do I fix that |
| 02:38.53 | Guerin | abrotman: or etherconf, if you want automoronic |
| 02:39.09 | alan` | can I get it another way |
| 02:39.18 | alan` | it won't let me in this stuff |
| 02:39.20 | Guerin | alan`: paste the whole error to |
| 02:39.22 | Guerin | !paster alan |
| 02:39.23 | dpkg | alan: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 02:39.36 | bodom | what does the latest stable come with by default? |
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| 02:39.40 | bodom | or offer besides gnome |
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| 02:39.43 | Metrics | phrontist: Do you have a separate boot partition? |
| 02:39.45 | alan` | how do I do that |
| 02:39.53 | phrontist | Metrics: I don't know |
| 02:39.53 | Metrics | bodom: Everything you could want. |
| 02:40.01 | phrontist | Metrics: not intentionally :-) |
| 02:40.04 | bodom | what does that mean = / |
| 02:40.07 | bodom | i mean without apt or w/e |
| 02:40.11 | Guerin | bodom: your search returned more than 15,000 packages. please narrow your search terms. |
| 02:40.12 | bodom | just with the cd imag |
| 02:40.21 | Metrics | phrontist: Okay, probably not then. |
| 02:40.25 | bodom | window managers * |
| 02:40.26 | bodom | i meant |
| 02:40.28 | Guerin | bodom: all of stable is on CD |
| 02:40.33 | Metrics | bodom: It comes with most of the popular window managers. |
| 02:40.42 | Metrics | bodom: Definately xfce and fluxbox |
| 02:40.46 | Guerin | bodom: most all of them as were released at the time |
| 02:40.56 | Abilene | I mean ncurses setup for network interface setup |
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| 02:41.20 | Guerin | bodom: kde, gnome, xfce4, flux, black, openbox, ion3, evilwm, wmaker, enlightenment, icewm .... |
| 02:41.30 | abrotman | twm! |
| 02:41.35 | Metrics | phrontist: Can you check in your chroot that you still have /boot/grub? |
| 02:41.39 | abrotman | olwm! |
| 02:41.46 | Metrics | ion3! |
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| 02:41.52 | Metrics | Oh...wait ;-). |
| 02:42.00 | phrontist | yes |
| 02:42.01 | TNKS | hi. I have a question about "Debian way" kernel compiling. If I have two kernel/module pairs, one stable and one experimental. How do I use make-kpkg to compile the stable module with the stable kernel and the experimental module with the experimental kernel? Toggling MODULE_LOC everytime seems a bit tedious. |
| 02:42.14 | abrotman | Abilene: vi is pretty close |
| 02:42.14 | phrontist | Metrics: the directory /boot/grub exists in the chroot |
| 02:42.21 | Abilene | aabrotman: helpful info ;P |
| 02:42.26 | abrotman | TNKS: keep different configs |
| 02:42.32 | abrotman | fbi: see! |
| 02:42.44 | Abilene | what command did debian use during the installation setup? |
| 02:42.55 | terr_ | I'm trying to create a document in Open Office. A paragrahp is in italics and I want to switch to non italics. Does anyone know how to do this? |
| 02:43.26 | gravity | terr_: Highlite the paragraph with your mouse and hit ctrl-i |
| 02:43.28 | Guerin | terr_: select it and click the italics button off? |
| 02:43.33 | terr_ | found it! You have to highlite and clink the italics button. GO figure. |
| 02:43.35 | gravity | Geez... that's like word processing 101 |
| 02:43.37 | alan` | is wmaker like a windows type desktop |
| 02:44.01 | Guerin | alan`: no. |
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| 02:44.15 | Metrics | phrontist: What's in there? Is stage1 and stage2 in there? |
| 02:44.16 | Abilene | *sigh* |
| 02:44.31 | alan` | brb |
| 02:44.32 | Guerin | alan`: xwinman.org gives you a look at all the wms |
| 02:44.40 | Guerin | Abilene: etherconf, as I said |
| 02:44.40 | wang | thanks whoever suggested |
| 02:44.40 | alan` | k |
| 02:44.47 | wang | thanks whoever suggested Balsa |
| 02:44.48 | TNKS | abrotman, the man page for kernel-kpkg.conf says it can only be in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf or ~/.kernel-pkg.conf. It doesn't mention putting this a configuration file in the root of the kernel tree. |
| 02:44.52 | phrontist | Metrics: stage1 and stage2 |
| 02:44.53 | rohal | phrontist: i too had a similar problem...chroot didnt work..... |
| 02:44.57 | phrontist | (and a bunch of other files) |
| 02:45.01 | abrotman | TNKS: i meant the kernel config |
| 02:45.09 | Metrics | phrontist: Try this http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/ |
| 02:45.11 | Abilene | guerin: sorry -- didn't see you say that -- thought you directed that to someone else. |
| 02:45.17 | Abilene | thanks though. |
| 02:45.28 | TNKS | abrotman, there's a place in the .config to specify the module directory? |
| 02:46.17 | Abilene | etherconf isn't in the base system. |
| 02:46.18 | Abilene | hmm |
| 02:46.21 | rohal | phrontist: then i used a suse 9.3 cd which let me boot into my linux ....& then grub install..... |
| 02:46.26 | abrotman | TNKS: i think i misunderstood you .. you want to keep two kernel configs ? .. right ? |
| 02:46.53 | TNKS | abrotman, yeah, I think we're not on the same page. I'm talking not about stock kernel modules, but externally compiled modules. |
| 02:47.03 | bodom | these are what i need for cd right? http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 02:47.05 | bodom | the right ones, |
| 02:47.22 | phobos | hi. does ne1 have a sources.list entry for kde 3.5-2? |
| 02:47.24 | TNKS | In particular, Debian ones, like ipw2200-source and ieee80211-source. |
| 02:47.29 | P_Kable | Uptime: 4 hours and 18 minutes |
| 02:47.45 | Guerin | bodom: yes |
| 02:47.49 | alan` | brb |
| 02:47.59 | Metrics | Just get number 1 though. |
| 02:47.59 | Guerin | Abilene: install it |
| 02:48.00 | magyar | how can i enable java-jre in firefox. I sym linked javaplugin to all mozilla/plugins directories, but it's still not showing up in "about:plugins" |
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| 02:48.12 | magyar | can someone help a brother? |
| 02:48.13 | Guerin | Abilene: the program which runs on install is base-config, I think |
| 02:48.20 | Metrics | Or the netist. |
| 02:48.41 | Guerin | magyar: abandon what you've already don, and follow the instructions in the topic |
| 02:48.59 | magyar | Guerin, i did. |
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| 02:49.15 | magyar | Guerin, i build a deb as instructed |
| 02:49.28 | Guerin | magyar: then you didn't need to make the symlink; it should Just Work |
| 02:49.36 | liable | TM |
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| 02:49.48 | bodom | a random question, just with disk 1 |
| 02:49.50 | phrontist | Metrics: okay, that page describes my problem exactly, yet none of the commands work |
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| 02:49.58 | bodom | does it come with good packages for linux gaming by default? |
| 02:49.58 | phrontist | I'm running the "grub" command from within the chroot |
| 02:50.09 | bodom | i havent gamed in years and want to start again |
| 02:50.14 | Guerin | bodom: define 'good packages' |
| 02:50.17 | Metrics | phrontist:Even the grub command doesn't work? |
| 02:50.17 | bodom | but i have no idea what packages are needed |
| 02:50.28 | Metrics | phrontist: As root again? |
| 02:50.35 | bodom | good packages as in, the average game i download works with no dependcy issues |
| 02:50.39 | bodom | i guess? |
| 02:50.58 | Guerin | bodom: wtf |
| 02:51.00 | Metrics | There is no such thing as an average game. |
| 02:51.10 | bodom | i dont know, im a newbie lol |
| 02:51.15 | Guerin | 99% of all games produced are windows-only |
| 02:51.19 | magyar | Guerin, konqueror works but firefox is not. |
| 02:51.31 | Guerin | they simply won't run under linux without emulation |
| 02:51.35 | phrontist | Metrics: I'm running "su", "chroot /dev/hda5", "su", "grub" |
| 02:51.38 | Guerin | magyar: hrm, dunno then. |
| 02:51.44 | bodom | i havent played a game in years, which is why im asking about Linux games |
| 02:51.47 | magyar | np |
| 02:51.55 | bodom | i wanted to to try CUBE and quake3 arena |
| 02:52.07 | Metrics | phrontist: Does it search for IDE drives? |
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| 02:52.22 | Metrics | phrontist: Sorry, BIOS drives? |
| 02:52.25 | phrontist | Metrics: err, I don't think it does anything automatically... |
| 02:52.31 | cheal | phobos: ask #debian-kde |
| 02:52.36 | phrontist | Metrics: what should I type at that prompt |
| 02:52.38 | phrontist | ? |
| 02:53.01 | Metrics | phrontist: When you run grub...you should get a message like looking for BIOS drives and then a grub prompt. |
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| 02:53.41 | phrontist | Metrics: it says that very shortly, and then cuts to the prompt |
| 02:53.54 | phrontist | nothing else |
| 02:54.20 | Metrics | Does find /boot/grub/stage1 from the grub prompt work? |
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| 02:55.01 | Kovecses | what is the package that has canon printer drivers? |
| 02:55.07 | phrontist | Metrics: "Error 15: File not Found" |
| 02:55.22 | simy22 | is there a good walkthrough for using glade2 or anjuta with debian? i cant seem to get it to work |
| 02:55.22 | Metrics | Hmmm. |
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| 02:57.40 | quux_ | when attepting to run duel monitor i recive an error saying more then one matching Device section found (followed by garble) |
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| 02:57.54 | quux_ | and my second monoitor dose not work. |
| 02:58.05 | Metrics | Metrics: Just to clarify, in the chroot, ls -l /boot/grub/stage1 produces -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 2005-05-04 19:27 /boot/grub/stage1 or the like? |
| 02:58.44 | Metrics | Damn, copy paste...phrontist? |
| 02:58.58 | phrontist | Metricss: No, I'm typing this out |
| 02:59.04 | phrontist | it's on another machine |
| 02:59.19 | phrontist | but I'm very careful about typing it verbatim |
| 02:59.33 | Metrics | No...I mean my mistake, addressing the message to myself. |
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| 03:00.20 | rohal | phrontist: if you fail setting up grub then you can even do it from windows http://www.computing.net/howto/advanced/linuxnt/ |
| 03:00.38 | phrontist | rohal: yes, but my windows install is borked |
| 03:00.58 | phrontist | yes the permissions on stage1 and stage2 jive |
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| 03:01.13 | phrontist | -rw-r--r-- |
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| 03:01.18 | Metrics | Kay. |
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| 03:01.26 | phrontist | though stage1 is only 512 large |
| 03:01.29 | rohal | phrontist:i told u i had a suse cd which let me boot my linux.....& then i restored the grub... |
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| 03:01.43 | phrontist | rohal: I have knoppix and debian install discs on hand... |
| 03:01.45 | Metrics | Try that...if you have a suse CD. |
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| 03:01.54 | phrontist | will the debian net-inst disc do? |
| 03:01.57 | rohal | phrontist: i got the same error in a chrooted environment |
| 03:02.34 | Metrics | I don't believe so, but it might. |
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| 03:04.02 | phrontist | rohal: what do the suse install discs have that the debian ones don't? |
| 03:04.31 | Metrics | phrontist: What happens when you type aptitude whilst in the chroot? |
| 03:05.06 | phrontist | Metrics: it starts |
| 03:05.28 | rohal | phrontist: no idea...that suse cd gave an option that boot your installed linux distro ...& then it searched my hard disc ....& did it cleanely... |
| 03:05.32 | phobos | cheal: ok |
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| 03:06.24 | Metrics | Excellent, try doing apt-get install --reinstall grub |
| 03:06.48 | rohal | phrontist: i had boot & root on different partition...but still it managed to boot my linux...... |
| 03:07.03 | rohal | phrontist: or may be try out lilo...... |
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| 03:07.53 | phrontist | rohal: I'm open to any means of booting my beloved debian |
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| 03:08.34 | abrotman | !moo |
| 03:08.34 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 03:08.41 | Dasnipa` | !root |
| 03:08.41 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 03:11.01 | rohal | phrontist: why dont you try giving a brand new shape to your beloved......a reinstallation.........;) |
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| 03:11.45 | nekostar | bbiab restart of this X thing |
| 03:12.20 | phrontist | rohal: are you inane |
| 03:12.22 | phrontist | *insane |
| 03:12.39 | phrontist | that is throwing the baby out with the bathwater! |
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| 03:13.04 | terr_ | I remember reading that Microsoft used the BSD TCIP stacks for OS/2 - is this correct? |
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| 03:14.02 | sheryl | is there a good apt repository for Canada? I'm using /gulus.usherbrooke.ca and was hoping there were others |
| 03:14.02 | rohal | phrontist: ok your wish man......may god help u fixing that grub........bbye |
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| 03:14.12 | phrontist | rohal: thanks |
| 03:14.16 | abrotman | sheryl: apt-setup might list some others |
| 03:14.28 | phrontist | if your down with the deities put in a good word eh? |
| 03:14.29 | Metrics | phrontist: Did you try my suggestion? |
| 03:14.34 | sheryl | ok, I'll look there. |
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| 03:14.35 | phrontist | Metrics: witch? |
| 03:14.39 | phrontist | *which |
| 03:15.04 | Metrics | apt-get install --reinstall grub in the chroot/ |
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| 03:15.24 | sheryl | second, I'm noticing a problem with the mysql-server-4.1 package. on my system when I try and update it (apt-get dist-upgrade) it will never stop. hangs forever. |
| 03:15.28 | phrontist | Metrics: oooh, good idea |
| 03:15.30 | phrontist | trying that |
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| 03:15.39 | sheryl | that's why I'm asking about the other apt repository, hoping it's just a bad package |
| 03:15.41 | cheal | sheryl: that's a good repository. Canada is a wide area |
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| 03:16.11 | sheryl | cheal: you know anything about that package then that might help? |
| 03:16.16 | cheal | sheryl: try updating it separately |
| 03:16.36 | sheryl | I can post the error that I get when I ultimately ctrl+c (I've waited for hours in the past) |
| 03:16.46 | cheal | sheryl: if you want an useful answer about that kind of question, you'll have to mention which release you use |
| 03:16.47 | phrontist | Metrics: okay, re-installed and ran "grub-install /dev/hda" again, only to get the same plasted "Permission Denied" issues |
| 03:17.34 | sheryl | cheal: good point. let me check the box, sorry |
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| 03:17.54 | Metrics | phrontist: Hmmm...did the grub install ask you any questions? |
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| 03:18.12 | phrontist | Metrics: no |
| 03:18.22 | littleball | hello, i cannot verify talk.google.com:5223 ssl certificate |
| 03:18.24 | Metrics | Try running update-grub. |
| 03:18.25 | phrontist | "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" |
| 03:18.25 | littleball | who can help me |
| 03:18.56 | phrontist | Metrics: ran "update-grub", the "grub-install /dev/hda", same deal |
| 03:19.05 | Metrics | Damn. |
| 03:19.36 | Metrics | phrontist: Just stabbing in the dark...are all the partitions marked rw? |
| 03:19.46 | abrotman | oh ffs ... |
| 03:19.48 | abrotman | this is retarded |
| 03:20.10 | Metrics | What is? |
| 03:20.23 | phrontist | Metrics |
| 03:20.29 | phrontist | Metrics: let me check |
| 03:20.31 | abrotman | nothing .. i made my client do stupid stuff ... |
| 03:20.53 | phrontist | Metrics: wait... do I need to mount hda5 from within the chroot?! |
| 03:20.58 | phrontist | because it isn't currently |
| 03:21.26 | Metrics | Wait...so how are you chrooting? |
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| 03:21.42 | abrotman | phrontist: is this your gentoo chroot ? |
| 03:21.57 | phrontist | this is a chroot from knoppix to debian |
| 03:22.23 | phrontist | I tried "mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5" and it can't mount... |
| 03:22.33 | phrontist | (from within the chroot to hda5) |
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| 03:22.56 | liable | iirc you dont even need to chroot from a knoppix cd, just run grub. |
| 03:23.39 | karsten | Gnea: FWIW, never did sort it out, though I could get a USB stick mounted. |
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| 03:23.58 | abrotman | karsten: you need a dog |
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| 03:24.42 | akusarujin | anyone know if openoffice.org's package is broke in sid? |
| 03:24.43 | irevernetReveren | i just plugged an external drive into my debian box and nothing showed up in dmesg, i suspect it is missing kernel modules... what modules do i need for external firewire drives? |
| 03:24.50 | akusarujin | seems to have broken dependencies |
| 03:25.10 | abrotman | it is sid |
| 03:25.13 | dli | irevernetReveren, "modprobe usb-storage" |
| 03:25.22 | sandman | Anyone here have a lot of experience with dchroot? |
| 03:25.32 | Trinitrogen | Quick question, I've got a harddrive coming in the mail that I plan on putting into a computer I just setup for a fileserver. How hard is it to add a HD in Debian? |
| 03:25.33 | akusarujin | indeed it is--but my system doesn't have much of a choice, unless i side with something lame along the lines of ubuntu |
| 03:25.55 | phrontist | I've run "grub" from knoppix root (not the chroot) what do I do to install? |
| 03:25.57 | akusarujin | amd64 users who wish to use debian with ati graphics cards are left in the cold for the most part :) |
| 03:26.05 | abrotman | no |
| 03:26.09 | irevernetReveren | dli even for firewire? |
| 03:26.12 | cheal | akusarujin: etch? |
| 03:26.14 | akusarujin | sid |
| 03:26.16 | abrotman | only if you want 3d with a 9300+ |
| 03:26.18 | akusarujin | etch would suffice though |
| 03:26.20 | cheal | akusarujin: what about using etch? |
| 03:26.21 | dli | irevernetReveren, sorry :( |
| 03:26.25 | akusarujin | yeah, if you want 3d, at least |
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| 03:26.35 | akusarujin | eh, it's too late for etch now.. |
| 03:26.39 | sandman | Trinitrogen: Extremely easy. Just add it to fstab |
| 03:26.43 | akusarujin | sid has already tainted the system |
| 03:27.01 | akusarujin | i'll duke it out with abiword until openoffice 2's dependencies are resolved |
| 03:27.03 | phrontist | okay, okay |
| 03:27.06 | phrontist | I think it worked |
| 03:27.08 | phrontist | from knoppix |
| 03:27.10 | phrontist | I did this |
| 03:27.12 | sandman | akusarujin: Just use gentoo in a chroot |
| 03:27.17 | akusarujin | ..rofl.. |
| 03:27.25 | akusarujin | pardon that one, it slipped |
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| 03:27.52 | akusarujin | if i wanted to compile everything i'd use... freebsd. |
| 03:27.59 | sandman | akusarujin: I just emerge openoffice-bin with openoffice ~x86 in package.keyword |
| 03:28.00 | phrontist | "grub" then from within grub "find /boot/grub/stage1" and "setup (hd0)" |
| 03:28.01 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:28.01 | Trinitrogen | sandman: cool, thanks |
| 03:28.07 | akusarujin | ..no. |
| 03:28.08 | phrontist | then "quit" |
| 03:28.10 | liable | anyone use a starpower ups? |
| 03:28.12 | akusarujin | i hate gentoo with a passion :) |
| 03:28.14 | sandman | I don't compile everything, either. |
| 03:28.23 | phrontist | and a whole bunch of very positive sounding messages resulted |
| 03:28.29 | phrontist | I guess I'll try to reboot now... |
| 03:28.29 | Metrics | phrontist: From not in a chroot? |
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| 03:28.37 | phrontist | Metrics: correct, not in chroot |
| 03:28.37 | Metrics | Can't hurt. |
| 03:28.38 | sandman | Yeah, use gentoo's bin capabilities. It's great for late software that would normally break stuff |
| 03:28.39 | akusarujin | if i was mighty determined i'd just get the binaries from openoffice.org; i'd surely do that sooner than using gentoo :P |
| 03:28.49 | sandman | Use it in a chroot, I mean. |
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| 03:28.50 | abrotman | sandman: wrong channel |
| 03:28.50 | phrontist | is there antyhing else I would need to do |
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| 03:28.52 | sandman | I wouldn't use it outside of that |
| 03:28.52 | Trinitrogen | sandman: now a more abstract question. Is it difficult to use Samba and share the contets of that drive onto a network? |
| 03:28.53 | phrontist | ? |
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| 03:29.01 | sandman | abrotman: Why? he was complaining about openoffice2 |
| 03:29.04 | Abilene | !dpkg gs-common |
| 03:29.06 | abrotman | so don't use it |
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| 03:29.07 | sandman | abrotman: I use a gentoo chroot + dchroot |
| 03:29.09 | Metrics | Nope. |
| 03:29.14 | abrotman | !info openoffice-2.0 sid |
| 03:29.23 | abrotman | sandman: and ? |
| 03:29.24 | Abilene | !info gs-comon |
| 03:29.26 | akusarujin | -2.0 isn't right, is it? |
| 03:29.29 | sandman | abrotman: And it works. |
| 03:29.30 | abrotman | !info openoffice-2 sid |
| 03:29.31 | akusarujin | it's just openoffice.org2 |
| 03:29.34 | abrotman | i don't remember |
| 03:29.39 | akusarujin | !info openoffice.org2 sid |
| 03:29.43 | abrotman | sandman: and? what? gentoo still sucks ? |
| 03:29.46 | akusarujin | ..or not |
| 03:29.49 | sandman | abrotman: Yup, it does. |
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| 03:29.58 | sandman | abrotman: But it works well in a jail under Sarge |
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| 03:30.10 | akusarujin | !info openoffice.org sid |
| 03:30.15 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 76 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
| 03:30.16 | akusarujin | hum |
| 03:30.19 | akusarujin | yeah |
| 03:30.20 | abrotman | right .. let me abuse a perfectly functional system with gnetoo .. good plan |
| 03:30.20 | akusarujin | there it is |
| 03:30.27 | abrotman | akusarujin: meta package |
| 03:30.29 | sandman | abrotman: You're not very smart, are you? |
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| 03:30.35 | sandman | abrotman: Run it in a chroot, use with dchroot. |
| 03:30.36 | akusarujin | yeah, it's a meta package, but i don't know what the actual package is |
| 03:30.41 | abrotman | sandman: because i can makde debian work ... and you can't ? |
| 03:30.43 | sandman | abrotman: mount -o bind dev |
| 03:30.57 | sandman | abrotman: I can, too. I run a sid, etch, and gentoo chroot under sarge |
| 03:31.07 | sandman | abrotman: But if I feel like testing out really late software, I use gentoo. |
| 03:31.07 | phrontist | SUCCESSSSSSSSS!!!! |
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| 03:31.14 | Metrics | Excellent. |
| 03:31.14 | sandman | abrotman: It's very useful for testing out the water. |
| 03:31.16 | abrotman | sandman: you're a tard .. have a nice day |
| 03:31.17 | phrontist | rohal, great news! |
| 03:31.19 | phrontist | it worked! |
| 03:31.30 | sandman | abrotman: Okay, if I want to help someone reach their goal, I'm going to. |
| 03:31.32 | rohal | phrontist: how did that happen? |
| 03:31.44 | phrontist | rohal: ran grub outside chroot |
| 03:31.45 | sandman | abrotman: You got a problem with using gentoo in a chroot? Go complain to someone who cares. Now do something useful please, thanks. |
| 03:31.54 | abrotman | sandman: shut up .. dipshit |
| 03:32.10 | EdLin | sandman: gentoo's "stable" system is often more out of date than sid. |
| 03:32.10 | akusarujin | (new subject, guys..) |
| 03:32.17 | rohal | phrontist: but how did you run it outside chroot? |
| 03:32.18 | akusarujin | it's not important enough to argue about it |
| 03:32.19 | sandman | EdLin: I know |
| 03:32.21 | cheal | sandman: suggesting to use gentoo is a wrong answer on this channel. particularly when there's no actual issue with Debian |
| 03:32.31 | sandman | EdLin: That's why I told him to add openoffice-bin ~x86 to package.keyword. |
| 03:32.32 | EdLin | sandman: then wtf are you recommending it? |
| 03:32.33 | abrotman | if you want to advocate gentoo pick any other channel |
| 03:32.37 | sheryl | hmm, well, you know, when you run out of hard-drive space, it stops installing new stuff ;) |
| 03:32.39 | sheryl | sigh |
| 03:32.40 | sandman | cheal: I'm not suggesting to use gentoo wtf |
| 03:32.46 | sandman | I'm suggesting using portage in a chroot. |
| 03:33.03 | akusarujin | i'd rather use a binary from openoffice.org :) |
| 03:33.10 | abrotman | akusarujin: ah .. the package was openoffice.org2 .. but ti's not relevant anymore |
| 03:33.11 | sandman | If you want a quick way to use unstable software on your system without having to work to incorporate it into your toplevel fs, and possibly breaking things |
| 03:33.19 | EdLin | sandman: building openoffice.org using a retarted slow python script to compile it with is not my idea of "better than sid" |
| 03:33.19 | abrotman | see .. he's a tard |
| 03:33.20 | rohal | phrontist: ohh u mean on that knoppix cd.... |
| 03:33.22 | cheal | sandman: use portage on debian packages? that sounds stupid |
| 03:33.26 | sandman | Just run portage in a chroot. In the case of openoffice.org2, I just did what I told him earlier |
| 03:33.26 | akusarujin | abrotman: yeah, i thought so, but it seems broken to hell and back |
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| 03:33.31 | gravity | Ok, calm down everyone |
| 03:33.33 | sandman | There's nothing wrong with that. And it works particularly well with dchroot |
| 03:33.36 | Tortel | Goodnight all! |
| 03:33.39 | gravity | If you want to talk about gentoo, even to bash it, take it elsewhere please |
| 03:33.49 | abrotman | akusarujin: well . that openoffice.org2 is only in exp .. and it's outdated .. because the real release if OO2 is in sid |
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| 03:34.09 | akusarujin | hmm |
| 03:34.17 | abrotman | release of |
| 03:34.23 | akusarujin | well, it may not be a sid issue, really. it could just be an amd64 issue in sid, which i'm assuming. |
| 03:34.51 | abrotman | akusarujin: uhm .. last i knew .. OO.o didn't work at all in pure64 |
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| 03:34.59 | abrotman | maybe with OO2 it's fine |
| 03:35.03 | rohal | why you guys fighting on gentoo & debian...use both like i do......;) |
| 03:35.06 | cheal | same here |
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| 03:35.07 | abrotman | akusarujin: if it's pure64 . ask #debian-amd64 |
| 03:35.20 | sandman | Omg you people are stupid. Cheal: Portage on debian packages? What are you rambling about? I said nothing of the sort, learn to read please. EdLin: I didn't suggest building openoffice.org, I said use openoffice-bin, once again, learn to read, both of you. |
| 03:35.22 | akusarujin | hmm |
| 03:35.30 | rohal | i too couldnt conclude which one is better so i decided to work on both... |
| 03:35.38 | gravity | sandman: If you or anyone keeps this up you'll be +q'ed |
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| 03:35.42 | sandman | I try to help and 4 people jump on my case. Maybe I should just avoid helping people |
| 03:35.53 | cheal | sandman: you said "cheal: I'm not suggesting to use gentoo wtf |
| 03:35.54 | cheal | (22:33:02) sandman: I'm suggesting using portage in a chroot. |
| 03:36.00 | EdLin | !ops too much non-debian distro bashing/advocating |
| 03:36.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: too much non-debian distro bashing/advocating |
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| 03:36.13 | rohal | anyway gentoo cant yet handle binaries well...its a fact.... |
| 03:36.15 | abrotman | EdLin: he's sitting there ... |
| 03:36.28 | gravity | rohal: Last warning. |
| 03:36.32 | abrotman | or maybe standing .. or lying .. could be driving! |
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| 03:37.03 | EdLin | driving on #debian sounds dangeros, sort of like driving while drunk |
| 03:37.10 | newbie_at_linux | I am getting this error on debian when trying to run a program. What should I do? error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 03:37.23 | abrotman | EdLin: ah .. but +b works so much better on the highway :) |
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| 03:37.25 | sandman | May I speak with an op please, in private as it is someone off-topic. I want to inquire about a specific part of conduct in this channel, because frankly I'm not sure what I'm allowed to do here. I'm not being sarcastic, I respect the rules. Just have some inquiries if someone would pm me, thank you. |
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| 03:37.38 | sandman | s/someone/somewhat/ |
| 03:37.46 | sheryl | I've just done an apt-get install wordpress (time to setup a blog on the site). I need help configuring it. once the install is done, where are the help files saved? |
| 03:37.50 | abrotman | sandman: you could ask here ? |
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| 03:37.55 | cheal | sandman: just ask. channel rules are on-topic |
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| 03:38.15 | EdLin | newbie_at_linux: what distribution version of Debian are you using? |
| 03:38.19 | sandman | Am I allowed to suggest using other net-installed distros in a chroot below debian as part of a quick-fix solution? |
| 03:38.21 | Abilene | how do I configure apt-get to use unstable? |
| 03:38.22 | newbie_at_linux | Sarge |
| 03:38.28 | gravity | sandman: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PoundDebianGuidelines |
| 03:38.29 | liable | sheryl: prolly /usr/share/doc/wordpress |
| 03:38.35 | gravity | sandman: I recommend reading /topic in the future |
| 03:38.38 | sheryl | looking now liable, thanks |
| 03:38.46 | gravity | sandman: *especially* when you don't know the channel |
| 03:38.56 | sandman | gravity: I do, I've been in here for years. |
| 03:38.59 | cheal | Abilene: hum...why do you want to do that? |
| 03:39.05 | Guerin | sandman: since when is installing a whole nother OS a quick-fix solution? |
| 03:39.08 | Abilene | cheal: I want MySQL 5.0.15 |
| 03:39.09 | gravity | sandman: Then you haven't been paying attention |
| 03:39.12 | liable | Abilene: if you need to ask you probably shouldnt. |
| 03:39.38 | Abilene | liable: I'm liable. |
| 03:39.39 | Abilene | :) |
| 03:39.47 | Guerin | is mysquirrel5 even in sid? |
| 03:39.50 | abrotman | sandman: the soltuion you gave .. may not even come close to solving his problem .. last i knew OO.o didn't work on pure64 .. which is solved with a 32bit chroot .. but you certainly don't need gentoo for that |
| 03:40.01 | sandman | Guerin: In the case of a large unstable package with lots of unstable deps not in sid yet |
| 03:40.18 | eean | whats the meaning of the c0 or c2 things at the ends of some package names? |
| 03:40.28 | Guerin | sandman: like, not openoffice.org, which is in sid at version 2 |
| 03:40.29 | cheal | Guerin: it is |
| 03:40.34 | abrotman | eean: C++ transition |
| 03:40.43 | Guerin | Abilene: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 03:40.45 | cheal | eean: the C++ ABI version |
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| 03:41.02 | eean | ok, so if I'm building a package for Sarge, does it matter or not? |
| 03:41.03 | sheryl | liable: /usr/share/wordpress... :) |
| 03:41.06 | sandman | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PoundDebianGuidelines didn't answer my question at all, btw. |
| 03:41.08 | C2H5OH | hi all |
| 03:41.09 | Guerin | eean: yes. |
| 03:41.11 | abrotman | eean: it really really shouldn't |
| 03:41.15 | eean | :| |
| 03:41.22 | C2H5OH | how do I check if a variable is set in tcsh ?? |
| 03:41.25 | abrotman | eean: the transition didn't affect sarge |
| 03:41.29 | eean | which should I distribute? |
| 03:41.42 | Guerin | sandman: it's all dependent on context. Sometimes some things are on-topic or acceptable; at other times those same things aren't. |
| 03:41.46 | Abilene | Guerin: BTW this server will be offline -- to be installed into Intranet without an access to the 'net. |
| 03:41.54 | Guerin | Abilene: irrelevant. |
| 03:41.56 | cheal | eean: sarge has 102 (g++-3.3's) |
| 03:42.06 | Abilene | so that is why I don't mind unstable. |
| 03:42.25 | eean | ...102? the choice is 0 or 2. |
| 03:42.28 | cheal | Abilene: what release do you run? |
| 03:42.31 | bucky | sheryl, if apache is running try http://localhost/doc/ for all your docs |
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| 03:42.49 | abrotman | cheal: no ? |
| 03:42.49 | Abilene | 3.1 |
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| 03:42.52 | Guerin | sandman: the people of #debian essentially decide what's on- and off-topic, with the ops having a somewhat greater say. |
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| 03:42.53 | EdLin | Abilene: if you're offline it makes more sense to download a bunch of Sarge isos or a Sarge DVD. That way you can install packages without being on the net. |
| 03:42.59 | akusarujin | abrotman: well, thanks for the information, at any rate. i was hoping openoffice.org 2 would resolve the need to use a 32bit chroot, but i will probably have to wait a bit longer. :) |
| 03:43.18 | Abilene | EdLin: I'm on net to configure the system, then get it offline and donate it to school. |
| 03:43.21 | abrotman | akusarujin: ask #debian-oo if there's even a glimmer of hope for a pure64 package |
| 03:43.30 | Guerin | abrotman: haha |
| 03:43.41 | Guerin | abrotman: maybe by 2008 |
| 03:43.46 | EdLin | Abilene: considering how unstable sid is lately you aren't doing the school a favor by donating it. |
| 03:43.48 | eean | at least debian chroots are hella easy to install. I just installed one on my Gentoo box today to make debian packages, gentoo even has the chroot script in portage. |
| 03:43.49 | eob84 | can anyone recomend a good non-anonymous FTP server? |
| 03:43.57 | Gnea | Abilene: you want to run unstable in a corporate environment? |
| 03:44.01 | abrotman | wtf .. is it god damn chroot day ? |
| 03:44.04 | sandman | Guerin: Well, oftentimes large packages as such aren't available in sid as fast as they are in gentoo. To update a package in gentoo, remember, it's as easy as renaming an ebuild. Which is why I said it's great for quickly installing/running unstable software. I have questions about its QA though, so I suggested it's good in a chroot. I'd suggest checking to see if it's in etch/sid first, however, as that obviously installs quite a bit quicker |
| 03:44.06 | cheal | abrotman: what do you mean by no? |
| 03:44.07 | Guerin | eob84: vsftpd |
| 03:44.14 | EdLin | !sing sunday |
| 03:44.14 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 03:44.16 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah, did you forget? ;) |
| 03:44.18 | Abilene | Gnea: only 2 people will use it. |
| 03:44.18 | abrotman | cheal: i don't think there are 102 packages in sarge |
| 03:44.22 | eob84 | Guerin... I can't figure out how to configure it |
| 03:44.26 | Abilene | I need stored proc's. |
| 03:44.28 | Gnea | Abilene: out of how many? |
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| 03:44.36 | sandman | Guerin: You said openoffice.org _is_ now, and that's fine. I was trying to offer a remotely useful suggestion to solve similar inquiries in the future. |
| 03:44.37 | Abilene | 150 students. |
| 03:44.39 | eean | Abilene: cause whats the point of ignoring if you don't tell everyone about it ;) |
| 03:44.40 | Abilene | 10 teachers. |
| 03:44.44 | abrotman | Gnea: i prefer talk like a pirate day .. arrg |
| 03:45.02 | Gnea | Abilene: how will you insure that the other 158 people will *NOT* use it? |
| 03:45.04 | cheal | abrotman: I was talking about the C++ ABI version in sarge |
| 03:45.05 | Guerin | sandman: that's only true if you're already an experienced gentoo user. For newbies, and even experienced linux users without gentoo-specific experience, gentoo is HARD, and can break easily. |
| 03:45.06 | eob84 | when I try to run it tells me I can't open the config file |
| 03:45.12 | Abilene | Gnea: I have 4 nodes. |
| 03:45.13 | eean | err I mean, talk like a chroot day |
| 03:45.15 | Gnea | abrotman: aye |
| 03:45.19 | Abilene | they don't have network system. |
| 03:45.20 | Guerin | eob84: edit /etc/vsftpd.conf |
| 03:45.23 | abrotman | cheal: but there are no funny pacakges in sarge for the ABI transition |
| 03:45.32 | Guerin | eob84: man vsftpd.conf for information |
| 03:45.39 | abrotman | if someone gave me a sid box .. i'd shoot them :) |
| 03:45.47 | cheal | abrotman: what do you mean by funny packages? |
| 03:45.51 | Gnea | Abilene: so you're risk is 1 in 39 of someone hacking into it. |
| 03:45.53 | abrotman | cheal: you said it! |
| 03:46.01 | eean | Guerin: well for ex-debian users like me, gentoo doesn't break. :) |
| 03:46.01 | Abilene | Gnea: It will be in the locked room. |
| 03:46.03 | abrotman | cheal: you said there were 102 packages in sarge |
| 03:46.03 | Guerin | sandman: so in that case, it'd be saner to suggest building upstream souce using, say, checkinstall |
| 03:46.10 | Gnea | Abilene: remotely? |
| 03:46.13 | Abilene | no |
| 03:46.17 | Gnea | how? |
| 03:46.23 | Abilene | *sigh* |
| 03:46.28 | Abilene | network will be INSIDE locked room. |
| 03:46.29 | abrotman | wow .. so it will never get any fixes .. yay |
| 03:46.34 | Abilene | only secretary will use it. |
| 03:46.40 | Guerin | eean: my gentoo system breaks in little ways all the time. |
| 03:46.47 | cheal | abrotman: heh. I said "the C++ ABI version", "sarge has 102 (g++-3.3's)" |
| 03:46.49 | abrotman | and the secretary needs sid ? |
| 03:46.52 | Abilene | 2 workstations and a server in a room. |
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| 03:46.54 | Gnea | how will you insure that the secretary's computer is only used by the secretary? |
| 03:46.59 | Abilene | *SIGH* |
| 03:47.03 | Gnea | :) |
| 03:47.03 | abrotman | cheal: yeah . you said sarge has 102 .. |
| 03:47.05 | sandman | Guerin: I wasn't an experienced gentoo user when I installed it in my chroot.. I read the docs and was on my way in about 5 minutes as I just skipped all the partitioning mumbo jumbo. All I did was grab a stage, untar it, cp resolv.conf, chroot'd emerge sync && emerge openoffice-bin |
| 03:47.12 | abrotman | Gnea: ensure |
| 03:47.14 | Abilene | I am creating a grading system in mysql using mostly sproc's. |
| 03:47.15 | eean | oh I guess you update frequently then Guerin. I only emerge world about twice a year. :P |
| 03:47.22 | Gnea | abrotman: that's a chocolate drink |
| 03:47.25 | Abilene | so openoffice can have an access to it. |
| 03:47.30 | abrotman | !dict ensure |
| 03:47.31 | Guerin | sandman: which is a great idea, until you have to upgrade things. |
| 03:47.32 | dpkg | Dictionary 'ensure' (1 of 3): . Ensure \En*sure"\, v. t. 1. To make sure. See Insure.. |
| 03:47.36 | gravity | sandman: If you want to suggest that sort of solution, please direct the person to a different venue to discuss actually implementing it |
| 03:47.38 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 03:47.38 | Guerin | eean: right. |
| 03:47.41 | Gnea | Abilene: but *WHO* has access to openoffice? :) |
| 03:47.47 | sandman | gravity: Where to? |
| 03:47.52 | Guerin | sandman: it's about as byzantine a solution as I can think of |
| 03:47.53 | Abilene | gnea: you're beating around the bush. |
| 03:47.54 | gravity | sandman: I don't care. Not #debian obviously. |
| 03:47.56 | Gnea | Abilene: !beer abrotman |
| 03:47.57 | Abilene | secretary, of course. |
| 03:47.59 | Gnea | oops |
| 03:47.59 | abrotman | #notdebian |
| 03:48.01 | abrotman | :) |
| 03:48.01 | Gnea | !beer abrotman |
| 03:48.02 | Guerin | rather than running oo.o in windows in vmware |
| 03:48.05 | regeya | openoffice, eh? |
| 03:48.07 | Gnea | Abilene: am i now. |
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| 03:48.15 | gravity | sandman: We have enough traffic to deal with. We don't need to support gentoo chroots too. |
| 03:48.26 | abrotman | we've been doing it all day .. yay! |
| 03:48.37 | gravity | sandman: You can use your own judgement for a good forum. |
| 03:48.55 | Abilene | No wonder why Linus says irc is a barrel of monkeys. |
| 03:49.03 | sandman | gravity: Well, I'll do what you say, but I'd like to point out that it's really strange. I generally like to problem solve, not problem-create, which is my opinion of not letting everyone know how to use portage to their advantage. That's like saying don't talk about bochs because the vga image was created by the mandrake community. |
| 03:49.04 | regeya | lol |
| 03:49.11 | sandman | gravity: Hm. I can see your point. |
| 03:49.36 | gravity | sandman: No. Your counter example is idiotic because bochs is in debian. |
| 03:49.40 | abrotman | or .. you could not use portage .. like a sane person |
| 03:49.46 | gravity | sandman: And therefore on topic. portage is not in Debian. |
| 03:49.50 | sandman | gravity: So is dchroot |
| 03:49.55 | sandman | gravity: Aiight. |
| 03:49.56 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. but gentoo is! |
| 03:49.58 | Gnea | Abilene: i am offended. how dare you link me to GWB. |
| 03:50.01 | gravity | sandman: Don't be an idiot |
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| 03:50.21 | abrotman | and damn that Theo! |
| 03:50.21 | regeya | well, portage could be, one day, a general-purpose packaging mechanism on more OSes. such as the OS X port. but that day is not today. |
| 03:50.28 | sandman | Why are you calling me names? |
| 03:50.30 | abrotman | !info gentoo sarge |
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| 03:50.47 | Abilene | I ask a simple question, and instead I got flamed. |
| 03:50.50 | gravity | sandman: Because you're being whiney and obtuse and it's getting annoying |
| 03:50.57 | Gnea | who flamed you? |
| 03:50.58 | Kovecses | hello what packages do i need to set up a network smb printer? |
| 03:51.03 | Abilene | ignore list. |
| 03:51.04 | Abilene | :) |
| 03:51.06 | eean | well putting portage on other linux distros is stupid, someone was doing it on Arch |
| 03:51.06 | abrotman | smbprint |
| 03:51.08 | sandman | Abilene: I know. I answered a simple question and I got flamed :/ |
| 03:51.12 | Gnea | heh |
| 03:51.18 | abrotman | sandman: you answered it WRONG! |
| 03:51.38 | Guerin | sandman: you answered a simple question with a rube goldbergesqe answer |
| 03:51.39 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 741 kB, Installed size: 2356 kB |
| 03:51.44 | gravity | Suggesting alternate distros for a solution is perfectly acceptable if Debian won't fit someone's needs. But take that discussion to a forum other than Debian. Make sense? |
| 03:51.48 | abrotman | yay .. gentoo! |
| 03:51.49 | Gnea | Abilene: it's easy to confuse sarcasm for flameage |
| 03:51.59 | regeya | gravity: on the othre hand, my example of how it could one day be general-purpose shows that your example isn't the best, either. just because something isn't a part of debian doesn't necessarily mean it's offtopic. at some point, nearly every piece of software wasn't part of debian, which means it wasn't on-topic, which means that due to a rift in the space-time continuum debian ceased to exist before it ever came to be. |
| 03:52.04 | sandman | gravity: And calling me names isn't? I come here with the intent to help, and instead everyone attacks me. |
| 03:52.22 | Gnea | you either think above it or it drags you in :) |
| 03:52.24 | Guerin | cry me a fucking river |
| 03:52.29 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 03:52.33 | sandman | Well, not everyone. |
| 03:52.33 | Abilene | Gnea: remember I'm deaf - some things can be misunderstood as literally spoken. |
| 03:52.37 | regeya | Guerin |
| 03:52.40 | EdLin | Gnea: I looked through the lastlog, it appears he /ignores people for suggesting sarge for an off-line machine. <shrug> |
| 03:52.46 | Kovecses | hello what packages do i need to set up a network smb printer? |
| 03:52.46 | Gnea | Abilene: i'm sorry, i didn't know you were deaf. |
| 03:52.54 | gravity | regeya: Stop trolling or else you'll be banned. Got it? |
| 03:52.55 | regeya | sandman: I was once kickbanned from #freebsd for answering a question about the fbsd linux abi |
| 03:53.01 | cheal | Abilene: so you want MySQL 5 on sarge? strange, but you'd need to do a backport if want that |
| 03:53.04 | eob84 | Guerin... have you used this client |
| 03:53.11 | eob84 | Guerin... server? |
| 03:53.18 | abrotman | and mysql5 is .. well . untested/unstable but released! |
| 03:53.20 | Abilene | ccheal: thanks for straightforward answer. |
| 03:53.21 | gravity | sandman: If you want to talk about #debian, the intent of this channel, then feel free to do so. There's nothing else to be said about it. |
| 03:53.23 | Guerin | eob84: i use it, yes. |
| 03:53.29 | regeya | gravity: it's only trolling if I'm being disingenuous. |
| 03:53.34 | sandman | regeya: I don't mind harsh rules. Democracies piss me off, I prefer totalitarian governments anyway. I just demand a reason for treating me like trash, that's all. |
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| 03:53.45 | eob84 | Guerin... I hav ethe vsftpd.config file |
| 03:53.55 | Gnea | Abilene: sometimes people surround their words with cruft - learning how to separate the wheat from the cruft can be a challenge indeed. |
| 03:53.57 | eob84 | Guerin... still tells me it coudn't be opened |
| 03:54.02 | Guerin | sandman: ok. because your suggestion was fucking stupid and you didn't just STFU when you were told why. |
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| 03:54.05 | abrotman | sandman: you're advocating the wrong answer involving another distro in a channel about a distro .. |
| 03:54.07 | Guerin | sandman: there's your reason. Happy? |
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| 03:54.09 | abrotman | maybe ? |
| 03:54.14 | Abilene | Gnea: it's is tom e. |
| 03:54.21 | Abilene | s/tom e/to me/ |
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| 03:54.26 | Guerin | eob84: that means nothing to me. |
| 03:54.43 | Abilene | That might be the reason why I had 1st divorce. |
| 03:54.44 | eob84 | Guerin... thank you |
| 03:54.52 | Abilene | and my current marriage is shaken. |
| 03:54.53 | abrotman | cheal: not in sarge! |
| 03:55.03 | abrotman | cheal: that's just cruel .. |
| 03:55.06 | Gnea | Abilene: i noticed. :) but it's cool - the idea is to not get offended when someone suggests something else - that can actually make the process of getting help more difficult. |
| 03:55.20 | Abilene | Gnea: yeah... |
| 03:55.24 | Guerin | eob84: well ... if you try to be more specific, perhaps I actually CAN help. |
| 03:55.29 | Abilene | spanned a web of confusion. |
| 03:55.31 | abrotman | i will be kde .. i'll feel all bloated .. and run slow .. but i'll look pretty .. i'll be tammy faye baker! |
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| 03:55.45 | Kovecses | hello what packages do i need to set up a network smb printer? |
| 03:55.50 | eob84 | Guerin... I really don't know... that is what it tells me |
| 03:55.51 | abrotman | smbprint |
| 03:56.00 | Guerin | eob84: define 'it' |
| 03:56.01 | eob84 | Guerin... there is a config file for it |
| 03:56.22 | sandman | Guerin: That's not reasonable, that's a bunch of swearing with subjective commentary. I'm saying, I think they are both very useful, and I think the one can _serve_ debian. Not giving any names. I just feel one of the distros works well when functioning below, not asking any question specific to it. If the person who I offered it to asked a question about hte distro in question, I'd direct him to the channel regarding it. But dchroot is a debi |
| 03:56.22 | Kovecses | abrotman, E: Couldn't find package smbprint |
| 03:56.38 | abrotman | Kovecses: apt-file search smbprint |
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| 03:56.43 | Guerin | sandman: you're wrong, and you're offtopic. |
| 03:56.43 | abrotman | holy shit |
| 03:56.43 | Gnea | Abilene: but, as people are strongly suggesting (and for good reason), it is unwise to use unstable in an office environment, particularly at *this* time (the past month and onward to now and forward until whenever..) due to the fact that many, MANY things in it are broken. but backports might have a mysql 5 for sarge... did you get the url yet? |
| 03:56.44 | eob84 | Guerin... vsftpd... when I try to run vsftpd... it tells me could not open config file |
| 03:56.46 | gravity | sandman Guerin Both of you stop this discussion now. |
| 03:56.49 | Guerin | sandman: still. |
| 03:56.49 | sandman | Guerin: I'm talking about dchroot |
| 03:57.00 | gravity | sandman Guerin If you continue it you'll be +q'ed as well |
| 03:57.08 | Abilene | Gnea: no. |
| 03:57.08 | sandman | It's a very useful tool. Especially dhcroot -d |
| 03:57.12 | Gnea | Abilene: BTW, i used to deliver food to a school for the deaf ;) |
| 03:57.16 | Gnea | !backports |
| 03:57.19 | Gnea | !backport |
| 03:57.19 | dpkg | well, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
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| 03:57.23 | Abilene | Gnea: I might download MySQL 5.0.15 and compile. |
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| 03:57.26 | Guerin | eob84: you didn't define 'it' yet |
| 03:57.27 | Gnea | Abilene: check that ^^^ |
| 03:57.33 | Kovecses | abrotman, apt-file: command not found |
| 03:57.33 | Abilene | I didn't go to deaf for the school. |
| 03:57.35 | Guerin | eob84: oh, you did |
| 03:57.37 | Abilene | thanks gnea. |
| 03:57.39 | abrotman | Kovecses: install it |
| 03:57.40 | eob84 | Guerin... like 40 times |
| 03:57.42 | Abilene | ack |
| 03:57.44 | Abilene | school for the deaf |
| 03:57.50 | Guerin | eob84: how are you starting vsftpd? |
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| 03:57.55 | abrotman | Kovecses: apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search smbprint |
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| 03:58.06 | Guerin | eob84: and how did you install it, and what branch of debian? |
| 03:58.06 | eob84 | Guerin... vsftpd start at command line |
| 03:58.10 | Gnea | Abilene: that could work too - but then you'll need to utilize equivs for mysql-enabled applications - beware. |
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| 03:58.26 | Guerin | eob84: /etc/init.d/vsftpd start? |
| 03:58.30 | Gnea | Abilene: no, the crackheads on the other side of the fence were getting shot ;) |
| 03:58.36 | eob84 | Guerin... did that... but I can't connect to te FTP server |
| 03:58.45 | Gnea | Abilene: good luck with that - i gotta go AFK for awhile |
| 03:58.57 | Abilene | ok thanks |
| 03:59.05 | Abilene | appreciate your straightforward answers. |
| 03:59.08 | Guerin | eob84: dpkg -P vsftpd && apt-get install vsftpd |
| 03:59.20 | Abilene | now those answers got me considering the risks. |
| 03:59.35 | Guerin | Abilene: simple sid backport will probably work easier for you |
| 03:59.43 | Guerin | Abilene: and be simpler to maintain |
| 03:59.49 | abrotman | mysql5 is at backports.org |
| 03:59.56 | Guerin | Abilene: not for testing |
| 03:59.58 | gravity | Is it? That's awesome |
| 04:00.01 | Guerin | Abilene: not for testing |
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| 04:00.06 | Abilene | 5.0.15? |
| 04:00.08 | Guerin | wtf |
| 04:00.08 | gravity | Too many people have been asking after that one |
| 04:00.14 | eob84 | Guerin... I just get a FTP session terminated |
| 04:00.15 | Guerin | abrotman: not for testing |
| 04:00.24 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 04:00.49 | Kovecses | abrotman, do you want to see the output? |
| 04:00.54 | abrotman | gravity: yes .. other stuff too .. but iirc .. mysql5 is there |
| 04:01.14 | sandman | Xenguy: I'd like one, please. |
| 04:01.29 | abrotman | gravity: http://www.backports.org/pending/ |
| 04:01.38 | Xenguy | sandman: only if yer a self-declared CF ;-) |
| 04:01.41 | abrotman | Kovecses: i see it |
| 04:01.42 | bob2 | cheal: you're eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil. |
| 04:01.53 | Kovecses | abrotman, now what? |
| 04:01.55 | sandman | Why do I get this all the time?: Failed to fetch http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/dists/unstable/Release.gpg Bad header line |
| 04:01.56 | abrotman | cheal: that didn't hurt |
| 04:01.59 | sandman | Xenguy: CF? |
| 04:02.04 | abrotman | Kovecses: it didn't work ? |
| 04:02.18 | Xenguy | sandman: control freek :-) |
| 04:02.19 | abrotman | !smbprint |
| 04:02.19 | dpkg | If you want to use samba to print from your linux box to a windows box, try reading http://ch208d.cae.tntech.edu/~mwr/smb/.... but no guarantees. |
| 04:02.19 | Guerin | sandman: sounds like a bad http server |
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| 04:02.43 | Kovecses | abrotman, my printer? |
| 04:02.48 | cheal | abrotman: what, you cherry-pick your gnome packages! go use gentoo, you ricer! |
| 04:03.06 | abrotman | cheal: you frenchie? :) |
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| 04:03.18 | GmLB | Anyone-> My system comes up and is requiring an fsck (asking for my root password). However, my USB keyboard doesn't work. I tried turning the USB keyboard support in my BIOS to "BIOS" controlled (meaning it's emulating a legacy device. What am I doing wrong that the keyboard doesn't work in Linux (but does work in the BIOS and Grub for example). |
| 04:03.26 | Kovecses | abrotman, ok nm |
| 04:03.33 | abrotman | Kovecses: ? |
| 04:03.37 | cheal | abrotman: yes. otherwise I wouldn't care about greenhouse gases |
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| 04:04.05 | littleball | hi, talk.google.com is mapped to a few ip addresses. Is this make ssl3 certificate verification failure? |
| 04:04.26 | Guerin | littleball: not at long as they have one certificate per ip address |
| 04:04.48 | littleball | Guerin, no, it seems the ips share the same certificate |
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| 04:05.27 | littleball | Guerin, i don't understand what happen during ssl certificate verification |
| 04:05.38 | bob2 | cheal: hah, I don't even have an advocate yet |
| 04:05.46 | cheal | bob2: haha. |
| 04:05.47 | littleball | openssl s_client -debug -msg -ssl3 -state -connect talk.google.com:5223 |
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| 04:06.04 | Guerin | littleball: https://talk.google.com gets me nothing |
| 04:06.14 | Guerin | littleball: oh, ok |
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| 04:06.30 | gravity | bob2: Weeeeelllll.... |
| 04:06.32 | Guerin | i see, it's their jabberd which is ssled |
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| 04:06.40 | littleball | Guerin, talk.google.com:5223 |
| 04:06.41 | Spods | hello |
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| 04:07.17 | littleball | Guerin, when i use openssl to debug the procedure, it is found that talk.google.com is mapped to different ips |
| 04:07.31 | bob2 | gravity: should have 4 for you in a couple of days, if you're feeling eager :) |
| 04:07.37 | EdibleText | query... mke2fs was hanging while operating on a 150+ gig partition. I did 'export MKE2FS_SYNC=10'; mke2fs /dev/<large partition>. Is there anything else to do? has enyone else needed to do this? kernel 2.6.8 (latest sarge kernel-source-2.6.8) |
| 04:07.41 | gravity | bob2: I'm down. |
| 04:07.50 | cheal | gravity: wasn't it you that would like to see KDE 3.5 in sarge? |
| 04:07.57 | gravity | cheal: Not me |
| 04:08.02 | Spods | gravity: your a debian maintaner? |
| 04:08.03 | Guerin | littleball: hrm, actually, that shouldn't be a problem |
| 04:08.25 | gravity | Spods: From time to time |
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| 04:08.28 | Guerin | littleball: as long as there's one one domain per ip for that certificate, I think |
| 04:08.36 | bob2 | haha |
| 04:08.41 | littleball | Guerin, but the ssl certification verification always failed. I think most ppl in the internet have the same thing. |
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| 04:08.55 | Guerin | littleball: yes, I get the same. |
| 04:09.05 | bob2 | Spods: gravity maintains some small packages...like all of X. |
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| 04:09.17 | gravity | And configure-debian! |
| 04:09.24 | Spods | bob2: oh, only trivial stuff then ;) |
| 04:09.30 | Guerin | littleball: probably if you use the googlertalk client, it's not noticeable |
| 04:09.32 | bob2 | haha |
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| 04:09.48 | littleball | Guerin, no, psi will notice. |
| 04:09.50 | gravity | I really need to get back to work on that. I have half a major update written |
| 04:10.07 | Spods | gravity: i've started reading the docs required for maintainers, i want to create a package for php-syslog-ng |
| 04:10.08 | Guerin | littleball: is psi the official googletalk client? |
| 04:10.09 | littleball | but windows client doesn't notice |
| 04:10.09 | gravity | Of course, my X work is going to kill the reason I wrote it anyway, but hey it could be useful one day |
| 04:10.13 | littleball | no |
| 04:10.16 | gravity | Spods: Cool |
| 04:10.22 | Guerin | littleball: like I said. |
| 04:10.33 | littleball | Geerin, because i need to implement my own mobile google talk client |
| 04:10.36 | Guerin | littleball: sorry, i ought have been clearer about 'official' |
| 04:11.09 | littleball | Guerin, i see. i want to find out why ssl verification failed |
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| 04:12.25 | Spods | anyone got dhcp3 to update rrset's in bind9 for windows dhcp clients? im having a world of pain with it |
| 04:14.43 | Spods | and then the channel went quiet. whew, who knew bind9 could be a mood killer |
| 04:14.58 | bob2 | at least it's not djbdns |
| 04:15.04 | gravity | heh |
| 04:15.33 | bob2 | it's kinda surprising that it works for linux but not windows clients |
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| 04:15.54 | Metrics | Does it work for linux clients? |
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| 04:16.34 | Spods | metrics: at the moment, no, it's not working for either. the strange thing is i don't get errors for it not working. i just get nothing. |
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| 04:16.55 | bob2 | ah |
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| 04:17.00 | Metrics | I have a working setup...well it was working. Let my get my config files. |
| 04:17.08 | Spods | metrics: cheers |
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| 04:20.04 | Metrics | Spods: Warning it's been ages since I actually set this up, and it's currently not active. Is there somewhere I can send the files to? |
| 04:20.21 | Spods | metrics: idontknow@iinet.net.au would be good |
| 04:20.29 | nimak | hahaha: apt-get moo |
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| 04:23.19 | bob2 | nimak: aptitude moo |
| 04:23.44 | nimak | hahaha |
| 04:23.50 | nimak | easter eggs are awesome |
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| 04:24.55 | Spods | brb |
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| 04:25.07 | bob2 | except, aptitude is lying |
| 04:25.22 | bob2 | one beer token if you can find it |
| 04:25.26 | encompass | Hello everyone! |
| 04:25.32 | dpower | haha |
| 04:25.36 | dpower | There are no Easter Eggs in this program. |
| 04:25.49 | popeyeray289 | c++ |
| 04:25.53 | GmLB | Anyone-> can a kernel option force no fsck? |
| 04:26.02 | encompass | SimonRaven: morning |
| 04:26.09 | bob2 | GmLB: no |
| 04:26.20 | bob2 | GmLB: it's an init script thing, not a kernel one |
| 04:26.28 | Spods | im back |
| 04:26.28 | encompass | GmLB: that is right |
| 04:26.39 | GmLB | bob2, So no grub command could stop it |
| 04:26.43 | dondelelcaro | although, you could modify the initscripts to obey a kernel option... |
| 04:26.49 | nimak | hahaha, i found it |
| 04:26.50 | Spods | and im surprised im still connected, considering the cat 5 cable fell out of my laptop |
| 04:26.58 | GmLB | bob2, My system won't boot because fsck wants my password, but my USB keyboard won't work in the kernel (it will work in grub/the bios) |
| 04:27.05 | Metrics | Spods: sent. |
| 04:27.08 | bob2 | GmLB: ugh |
| 04:27.10 | encompass | I have set up my wlan card I have associated with the network... I even have a dhcp connect with a leased ip... but still con't connect.... any ideas? |
| 04:27.19 | bob2 | GmLB: can you boot into a working kernel? |
| 04:27.31 | GmLB | bob2, the kernel isn't the problem, the disk is |
| 04:27.31 | bob2 | GmLB: another option is to add init=/bin/bash to the kernel command line in grub |
| 04:27.31 | Spods | metrics: thanks for that, i'll check it out now |
| 04:27.42 | bob2 | GmLB: oh, that won't work either |
| 04:27.55 | GmLB | bob2, Well the disk isn't fucked, it just shut down improperly |
| 04:27.56 | encompass | gmlb doa full power cylce... |
| 04:28.04 | GmLB | encompass, tried. |
| 04:28.09 | encompass | GmLB: happened to me... |
| 04:28.25 | bob2 | GmLB: the keyboard doesn't work because you need modules loaded? |
| 04:28.36 | bob2 | encompass: can you ping the AP? |
| 04:28.46 | encompass | I don't think so |
| 04:28.54 | encompass | let me set it up again and tell you |
| 04:28.58 | GmLB | bob2, Well i can tell the BIOS to run the keyboard in legacy mode... which will emulate a PS2 one, BUT i need the kernel to NOT do hotplugging, which it is |
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| 04:29.50 | lightbright | hey hey |
| 04:30.15 | encompass | ok |
| 04:30.17 | bob2 | GmLB: ok, I'm lost, sorry |
| 04:30.38 | encompass | now... should I do a dhclient wlan0 and connect to the router, right? |
| 04:30.51 | bob2 | encompass: yes |
| 04:31.07 | encompass | ok... it had the ip of 192.168.11.4 |
| 04:31.11 | encompass | which sounds right |
| 04:31.35 | encompass | it also give the renewal time that I set on the router so that is working too |
| 04:31.40 | encompass | it is not just faking things |
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| 04:32.02 | bob2 | faking? |
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| 04:32.26 | encompass | sigh... nothing... I just know it is working as far as getting an ip |
| 04:32.51 | bob2 | can you ping the AP? |
| 04:32.55 | encompass | so ping 192.168.11.1 right.... but here is the problem... I have... but it goes threw my wire connect on the same computer |
| 04:33.05 | bob2 | hm? |
| 04:33.12 | encompass | oh wait |
| 04:33.22 | bob2 | the computer is on wireless and ethernet? |
| 04:33.23 | encompass | I think I can ping from the router software |
| 04:33.29 | encompass | it is both right now |
| 04:33.35 | encompass | I want to switch to wirless |
| 04:33.39 | bob2 | ok |
| 04:33.43 | bob2 | well |
| 04:33.49 | bob2 | you can test with ethernet plugged in |
| 04:33.49 | eean | what do the status letters (v, i, p) in aptitude search mean? |
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| 04:34.21 | Metrics | virtual, installed, purged. |
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| 04:34.25 | encompass | very important packages? |
| 04:35.14 | takatumi | eean: hit '?' to get a quick summary. |
| 04:35.23 | eean | I'm using the CLI |
| 04:35.28 | eean | but ok :) |
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| 04:36.00 | mariano | hi |
| 04:36.07 | eean | hmm, one of the packages has an i and an A. what does A mean? |
| 04:36.23 | encompass | I have piged my wlan card from the router... that is good news |
| 04:36.26 | Metrics | Installed automatically as a dependency. |
| 04:36.37 | eean | ah cool thanks Metrics |
| 04:36.45 | bob2 | encompass: but not the other way round? |
| 04:37.04 | encompass | well... |
| 04:37.14 | Metrics | Check the routes. |
| 04:37.16 | mariano | hi there |
| 04:37.36 | encompass | bob2 if I type ping 192.168.11.1 for the router I get the response very well... because it goes threw my eth0 connection |
| 04:37.40 | EdibleText | Is it typical to 'export MKE2FS_SYNC=10', or similar, in order to mkfs.ext2 large partitions? 2.6.8 kernel |
| 04:37.48 | Metrics | encompass: Check the routes. |
| 04:38.07 | encompass | Metrics: How do I do that |
| 04:38.13 | liable | encompass: you have two ifaces up? |
| 04:38.13 | bob2 | encompass: 'sudo ip route add 192.168.11.1/32 dev wlan0' |
| 04:38.17 | Metrics | Type route. |
| 04:38.31 | bob2 | encompass: then the same thing with del instead of add once you're done testing |
| 04:38.32 | encompass | which one first guys |
| 04:38.35 | mariano | exit |
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| 04:39.08 | encompass | I typed route |
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| 04:39.24 | encompass | I have three lines of information |
| 04:39.32 | encompass | what would you like to know |
| 04:39.43 | liable | man route. :) |
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| 04:40.00 | Metrics | The best way to test would be to pull the ethernet cable. ifconfig eth0 down and then dhclient wlan0. |
| 04:40.30 | encompass | I did that before talking to you guys |
| 04:40.30 | encompass | it doesn't work |
| 04:40.31 | liable | encompass: you need to set the default gateway for the wlan card, or take down eth0, and then bring up wlan |
| 04:40.38 | K_Dallas | hi guys! installing sarge (along an already existant win-xp). the free space of the disk is used for debian as an option it gives me standard/news/largefile/largefile4. i have always used std, but what is the diff between these usage types? thanks |
| 04:40.52 | encompass | I thought dhclioent did that |
| 04:41.02 | bob2 | it doesn't take things down |
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| 04:41.10 | bob2 | but it will (probably) set the default route to wlan0 |
| 04:41.22 | bob2 | K_Dallas: reiser? |
| 04:41.24 | encompass | yeah... that route thingy |
| 04:41.30 | Supaplex | K_Dallas: news is optimal for news servers, largefile for .. well, largefiles, same for largefil4, but I don't recall the thresholds. google around maybe |
| 04:41.32 | K_Dallas | bob2, ext3 |
| 04:41.38 | bob2 | hm |
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| 04:42.14 | K_Dallas | for normal usage, standard should be ok, right? would i lose speed for normal usage if i select largefiles? |
| 04:42.25 | encompass | so you want me to take down my eth0 with....* |
| 04:42.26 | encompass | ifconfig eth0 down? |
| 04:42.40 | liable | or ifdown eth0 |
| 04:42.45 | K_Dallas | (reirser doesnt give me those options) |
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| 04:43.01 | encompass | then dhclient wlan0 |
| 04:43.03 | bob2 | K_Dallas: ah, my mistake, sorry |
| 04:43.12 | K_Dallas | no problem |
| 04:43.14 | liable | encompass: take them both down and then bring up wlan0 |
| 04:43.22 | encompass | ok cool |
| 04:43.27 | encompass | well... wish me luck |
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| 04:44.11 | encompass | when I type ifdown wlan0 it says the interface is not configured |
| 04:44.17 | encompass | is that a problem? |
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| 04:44.27 | liable | no, run dhclient on it then. |
| 04:44.27 | drcode | hi all |
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| 04:44.59 | drcode | any one mybe know about free mysql hosting , I Have a frind that want to use phpnuker on free housting |
| 04:45.04 | encompass | ok... it gives me the same successfull connect |
| 04:45.37 | liable | now ping the ap |
| 04:45.40 | stew | phpnuker sounds like the kind of think i like to stay away from :) |
| 04:45.50 | encompass | with eth0 up? |
| 04:46.05 | nashirak | Does anyone know... Besides restarting my box, is there a way to restart all my virtual terminals. They seem to be screwed up (they are all command characters). |
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| 04:46.24 | liable | encompass: no, with just the wireless card up. |
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| 04:46.42 | encompass | ok... I may disapear but I hope I can get back |
| 04:47.04 | Supaplex | mariano: killall getty ? |
| 04:47.12 | Supaplex | mariano: nm that |
| 04:47.29 | EdibleText | nashirak, $ tput reset |
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| 04:49.23 | nashirak | EdibleText: thx |
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| 04:50.36 | K_Dallas | is kernel 2.6.8-2-686 hassle free or i stick to 2.6-686? thanks |
| 04:50.58 | xcrash | nothing is hassle free ;) |
| 04:51.06 | bob2 | 2.6-686 probably installs 2.6.8-2686 |
| 04:51.10 | K_Dallas | well i mean fairly ;) |
| 04:51.13 | encompass | down |
| 04:51.13 | encompass | any one still see me? |
| 04:51.17 | liable | err, 2.6-686 is a meta package that pulls in the newest kernel.. |
| 04:51.27 | liable | encompass: yes |
| 04:51.36 | encompass | well, not really |
| 04:51.40 | K_Dallas | so 2.6-686 would be the one |
| 04:51.41 | encompass | I sent that ages ago |
| 04:51.52 | encompass | well I don't think it worked |
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| 04:52.06 | encompass | but I was able to get the network backup without restarting, thats a first |
| 04:52.07 | EdibleText | No one has experianced system hanging with 'mke2fs /dev/<large partition>' ? |
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| 04:52.57 | liable | encompass: so you couldnt ping the ap? |
| 04:53.05 | nimak | how do i remove a user? |
| 04:53.12 | liable | deluser |
| 04:53.20 | encompass | no I couldn't |
| 04:53.21 | nimak | thanks |
| 04:53.46 | encompass | I had to bring everything down with ifconfig and then typed dhclient and everything came back up |
| 04:54.14 | encompass | but here is the weird thing |
| 04:54.24 | encompass | even after downing the eth0 I could still ping it |
| 04:54.42 | EdibleText | encompass, I have experianced connection oddities while invoking dhclient. I had multiple instances running |
| 04:54.53 | encompass | but when I would try to ping the ap it gave this |
| 04:54.54 | encompass | ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted |
| 04:55.23 | liable | encompass:does the ap have encryption turned on? |
| 04:55.26 | stew | encompass: that means are blocking outgoing pings either iptables or by removing the suid bit from the ping executable |
| 04:55.32 | encompass | yes |
| 04:55.42 | myren | anyone have suggestions for pdf viewers? gpdf is too simple, xpdf is too ugly |
| 04:55.50 | encompass | stew: huh? |
| 04:56.03 | encompass | adobe acrobat |
| 04:56.06 | encompass | ha' |
| 04:56.12 | stew | oh, i dunno if maybe encrypting on an ap might do that |
| 04:56.15 | stew | ignore me |
| 04:56.23 | liable | !acroread |
| 04:56.23 | dpkg | hmm... acroread is Adobe Acrobat Reader for viewing and printing Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF) files. It also works well as a plugin for the glibc2 (libc6) version of Netscape 4.7x. Home Page: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readermain.html |
| 04:56.30 | Spods | i could be wrong, but doesn |
| 04:56.43 | Spods | 't the latest openoffice.org have pdf support |
| 04:56.53 | encompass | for converting TO pdf |
| 04:56.58 | gravity | myren: evince |
| 04:57.09 | encompass | so |
| 04:57.09 | K_Dallas | oo has been having export to pdf for quite a while now |
| 04:57.12 | Spods | openoffice can export to pdf format |
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| 04:57.26 | myren | gravity: thanks, i think thats what i was looking for |
| 04:57.30 | Spods | 2.0 improved the functionality of the export |
| 04:57.30 | encompass | but I can ping the AP now with my eth0 on |
| 04:57.32 | gravity | myren: No problem |
| 04:57.34 | gravity | evince is love |
| 04:57.37 | myren | oo is way too heavyweight, god damn |
| 04:57.46 | stew | gravity: is that an enlightenment thingy? |
| 04:57.47 | Puiu | I have this game... enemy territory...and the sound doesn't work...but the sound works for xmms and mplayer and everything except this game...anyone have any ideas how to get the sound for the game to work? |
| 04:57.58 | K_Dallas | myren, google is investing it so i bet in no time it turns out to be less heavy ;) |
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| 04:58.06 | stew | gravity: ignore me |
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| 04:58.13 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 04:58.14 | liable | encompass: turn encryption off and see what happens, bring down eth0, then bring up wlan0 |
| 04:58.22 | myren | anyone tried StarOffice, ooc? |
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| 04:58.35 | encompass | yes |
| 04:58.40 | myren | any good? |
| 04:58.41 | encompass | it is alot like oppen office |
| 04:58.55 | Spods | myren: if it's not done by OO.o or Acrobat itself, my users usually just use a samba/cups "PDF Printer" option |
| 04:58.56 | encompass | well... not to me... but for people that like to have a nice manual and good support it is very nice |
| 04:59.08 | bwlang | does apt-get build-dep php4 work for anybody ... i get a failure when it looks for msql12 |
| 04:59.08 | myren | K_Dallas: i dont like it, but sometimes i need something for page layout and powerpoint |
| 04:59.11 | encompass | some people like to buy it because they feel secure doing it |
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| 04:59.32 | bob2 | bwlang: on what debian version? |
| 04:59.33 | K_Dallas | myren, beamer class on latex or ConTeX does great jopb, impressive |
| 04:59.33 | myren | Spods: I'm just looking for a reader for a bunch of my doc's right now |
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| 04:59.52 | myren | (i guess) |
| 04:59.54 | bwlang | bob2: amd64... etch |
| 04:59.55 | foo | I am tryingt o install mplayer-386 but it says |
| 05:00.01 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.01 | foo | E: Broken packages |
| 05:00.04 | foo | Any ideas? I did apt-get update |
| 05:00.08 | encompass | ok, well when everyone leaves... I will take down the wireless network and takedown the security |
| 05:00.08 | Spods | myren: don't adobe provide a unix based reader? |
| 05:00.13 | Puiu | bob2, Any idea how to get sound to work in enemy territory? |
| 05:00.22 | myren | Yeah, I suppose they do Spods. |
| 05:00.39 | liable | encompass: is it wep or wpa? |
| 05:00.40 | myren | Puiu: find out what sound system ET uses... |
| 05:00.40 | bob2 | pipeline: pkill esd |
| 05:00.43 | gravity | myren: I recommend the Kopka book |
| 05:00.43 | stew | foo: paste your sources.list to somehwere besides this channel |
| 05:00.53 | bob2 | er |
| 05:00.57 | bob2 | Puiu: pkill esd |
| 05:01.16 | Puiu | bob2, I don't run esd or artsd |
| 05:01.24 | Puiu | myren, It uses oss |
| 05:02.00 | myren | i've got a program (liferea) which is constantly spews output into the console. Even if I 2>&1 1>/dev/null, it still keeps throwing garbage. How do i stop it? |
| 05:02.09 | bob2 | Puiu: fuser -v /dev/dsp |
| 05:02.17 | myren | Puiu: Try running the OSS output in xmms, make sure OSS is doing something |
| 05:02.37 | Puiu | debian:/proc/asound/oss# fuser -v /dev/dsp |
| 05:02.37 | Puiu | /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 05:02.51 | myren | that would be it then |
| 05:03.06 | myren | MAKEDEV sound, or something... I cant remember the exact command |
| 05:03.11 | Puiu | myren, When I try to use oss in xmms it doesn't work. |
| 05:03.15 | Puiu | It works when it's on esd. |
| 05:03.24 | stew | Puiu: you running udev? |
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| 05:03.44 | Spods | myren: adobe's download page recognised i was on linux, then offered me a choice of tar.gz or rpm download (d'oh). But you could go this route if you needed something better than the free ones |
| 05:03.47 | myren | Puiu: as superuser, do MAKEDEV audio |
| 05:03.52 | Puiu | debian:/proc/asound/oss# ps aux|grep -i udev |
| 05:03.52 | Puiu | root 1035 0.0 0.1 1884 740 ? S<s Nov01 0:00 udevd --daemon |
| 05:03.57 | stew | Puiu: do you have snd_pcm_oss loaded? |
| 05:03.58 | bob2 | Puiu: you don't have OSS working |
| 05:04.01 | myren | then chmod /dev/dsp so your user can read it |
| 05:04.01 | bob2 | myren: that won't work |
| 05:04.06 | bob2 | Puiu: modprobe snd_pcm_oss |
| 05:04.07 | myren | nm then Puiu |
| 05:04.13 | myren | What he said |
| 05:04.16 | Puiu | debian:/proc/asound/oss# lsmod|grep -i snd_pcm_oss |
| 05:04.16 | Puiu | debian:/proc/asound/oss# |
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| 05:04.49 | Puiu | cool |
| 05:04.51 | Puiu | oss works now |
| 05:04.57 | Puiu | I just had to modprobe it. |
| 05:05.04 | Puiu | How can I make it so it is modprobed when I reboot? |
| 05:05.10 | stew | Puiu: edit /etc/modules |
| 05:05.13 | Puiu | thanks |
| 05:06.13 | myren | I do 2>&1 1>/dev/null on this program, but its still spewing garbage to consoel, how do i get it to shut up. wtf is going on? |
| 05:06.30 | liable | !syslogd |
| 05:06.31 | Spods | hey metrics, you still here? |
| 05:07.04 | LinuxGold | mysql 5.0.13 is installed. |
| 05:07.05 | LinuxGold | :) |
| 05:07.08 | myren | :/ |
| 05:07.16 | liable | !syslog console |
| 05:07.17 | dpkg | i guess syslog console is to prevent new syslog package from printing messages on console add '-R' switch in its init script and restart it with '/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart' |
| 05:07.24 | Kvant | myren, try: >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 05:07.43 | stew | or just &>/dev/null |
| 05:07.48 | K_Dallas | if i do not set a default local, what problems i might get into? |
| 05:08.07 | eob84 | can anyone help me in configuring proftpd? |
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| 05:08.31 | stew | eob84: what are you trying to? what have you tried? what isn't working... |
| 05:08.33 | eob84 | I tried to set the users with ftpasswd but no matter what I do it just won't let me in the server |
| 05:08.42 | wireddd | eob84, why don't you use vsftpd? |
| 05:08.57 | eob84 | I couldn't get that to work at all |
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| 05:09.23 | eob84 | it kept telling me it could't open my vsftpd.conf file |
| 05:09.29 | secher | My DSL provider says I have a 2MB/s downstream pipe. That's crap, but I can't figure out how to test my actual available bandwidth. Is there a tool I can use to check what's available to me? |
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| 05:10.00 | bob2 | secher: wget a Debian iso fro ma nearby mirror |
| 05:10.18 | eob84 | is there a good tutorial... idiots guide to setting up FTP server? |
| 05:10.29 | bob2 | no |
| 05:10.37 | bob2 | eob84: what are you using ftp for? |
| 05:10.47 | bob2 | eob84: you do know that ftp sends passwords in clear text, right? |
| 05:10.54 | eob84 | yea |
| 05:11.02 | Guerin | !ftp |
| 05:11.02 | dpkg | methinks ftp is (File Transfer Protocol) This is a method of moving files from system to system using TCP/IP. There are three sane kinds of ftp: anonymous, encrypted and unprivileged (non-unix users). Unencrypted ftp using unix users will get your box pwn3d as fast as runnin windows on your firewall machine. |
| 05:11.03 | dondelelcaro | almost any time you would even think about using ftp, you should be using scp or rsync instead. |
| 05:11.09 | eob84 | I need a method of uploading files to my nome directory |
| 05:11.15 | dondelelcaro | eob84: so use scp |
| 05:11.18 | dondelelcaro | (or rsync) |
| 05:11.28 | bob2 | eob84: it's just for you? rsync or sftp or scp will work already, if you have ssh installed |
| 05:11.33 | eob84 | I am not doing it in linux |
| 05:11.37 | eob84 | linux is just the server |
| 05:11.41 | dondelelcaro | eob84: then use pscp |
| 05:11.48 | Guerin | winscp |
| 05:11.51 | bob2 | eob84: putty lets you do these things, too |
| 05:11.51 | Guerin | etc. |
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| 05:12.11 | bob2 | pity webdav is such a pain in the arse to setup with apache |
| 05:12.18 | eob84 | putty lets me transfer files? |
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| 05:12.24 | bob2 | yes |
| 05:12.42 | eob84 | with SSH |
| 05:12.54 | myren | is there some way to make programs fallback off of UTF-8 if the console doesnt support unicode? |
| 05:13.10 | myren | i still use aterm a lot but it has no unicode support. my manuals are all fscked up |
| 05:13.20 | Guerin | your console should respect locale environment variables |
| 05:13.27 | myren | Ok |
| 05:13.30 | dondelelcaro | myren: use a real term, like xterm; if your term sucks, change LANG. |
| 05:13.36 | dondelelcaro | s/xterm/uxterm/ |
| 05:13.50 | myren | yeah, i break open uxterm's a lot now |
| 05:14.01 | eob84 | what do I do to send a file useing putty |
| 05:14.06 | eob84 | with SSH |
| 05:14.23 | EdibleText | eob84, winscp. youll like it. |
| 05:14.26 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: hello :) I hope all is well with you |
| 05:14.53 | bucky | eob84, from the linux box or from the windows box? |
| 05:15.06 | eob84 | transfer from windows to linux |
| 05:15.21 | dondelelcaro | eob84: install PSCP.EXE in your PATH; start CMD; run PSCP foofile foouser@foobox:path/to/where/you/want/the/file/to/go |
| 05:15.45 | eob84 | what is that? |
| 05:15.48 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: just busy, as usual. |
| 05:15.55 | dondelelcaro | eob84: google. google. google. |
| 05:16.00 | eob84 | I am |
| 05:16.15 | bucky | pscp file root@192.168.0.3:/home/eob84 |
| 05:16.16 | eob84 | ftp seems easier? |
| 05:16.23 | bucky | something like that |
| 05:16.35 | secher | bob2: Ok, I knew that, but I was hoping for something I could send them that they could verify. Also, I left ethereal on more or less accidentally in prom. mode for about 2 hours, and *630,000,000* packets were passed in that time. Is that excessive? Obviously, there's a good deal of relavivity to be dealt with, but we're not talking an OC48 line here. I think 40000 packets a second is a little high for an end line subnet, yes or no? |
| 05:16.36 | Guerin | eob84: it's not. |
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| 05:16.45 | Guerin | eob84: if it was, you'd have it working by now, no? |
| 05:16.45 | dondelelcaro | eob84: ftp is insecure crap, and actually it ends up being more difficult. |
| 05:17.00 | eob84 | I here more difficult |
| 05:17.09 | eob84 | but it sounds like I have to transfer one file at a time? |
| 05:17.22 | Guerin | just fucking get winscp and stop whining |
| 05:17.25 | Guerin | really |
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| 05:17.33 | Guerin | it does what you want, and much more |
| 05:18.05 | bucky | it's one of those how do i move tera bytes of mp3s to my linux box questions |
| 05:18.18 | litage | i installed daemontools-installer, ran get-deamontools and build-daemontools and produced a .deb. however, when i install the .deb, /service/supervise/run doesn't exist. any suggestions? |
| 05:18.24 | dondelelcaro | eob84: no, you don't have to transfer one file at a time. I just gave you the example for one file because it's simpler. |
| 05:18.33 | eob84 | :-) |
| 05:19.18 | dondelelcaro | eob84: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.58/htmldoc/Chapter5.html#pscp |
| 05:19.24 | eob84 | do I have to have something special running on my server to get SCP to work? |
| 05:19.52 | myren | afaik, just an ssh server |
| 05:19.55 | dondelelcaro | eob84: no, just ssh. |
| 05:20.20 | eob84 | I got it |
| 05:20.25 | eob84 | nice little gui and all |
| 05:20.29 | eob84 | thanx |
| 05:21.38 | EdibleText | litage, do you have a /service directory? |
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| 05:22.16 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: unless it's insane, it shouldn't stick anything in /service. |
| 05:22.32 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: in any case, dpkg-deb -c foo.deb; to see where files are going, or use dpkg -L. |
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| 05:23.16 | dondelelcaro | s/lightbright/litage/ |
| 05:23.56 | litage | EdibleText: yes, but there's no 'run' file in /service/supervise/ : http://rafb.net/paste/results/H8j24y88.html |
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| 05:24.20 | EdibleText | dondelelcaro, I believe the install ask to symlink /service to the svscan directory |
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| 05:26.12 | litage | EdibleText: ``dpkg-deb-c foo.deb | grep run'' doesn't list any files as going into /service: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6YJ8fC57.html |
| 05:26.25 | eob84 | awsome guys |
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| 05:26.58 | eob84 | files are transfering as we speek |
| 05:27.05 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: you talking to me or litage ? :P |
| 05:27.09 | eob84 | not sure if this is possible... being a linux newb and all |
| 05:27.09 | close_to_debian | I get this error when booting to my new kernel. I have used the same config file as 2.6.12 kernel |
| 05:27.12 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: ah ok ;) |
| 05:27.14 | close_to_debian | http://sial.org/pbot/14075?wr=on&tidy=on&hl=on&submit=Format+it%21 |
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| 05:27.32 | eob84 | is there a way so a person won't be able to back out of their home directory? |
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| 05:27.51 | nekostar | ninie |
| 05:27.52 | eob84 | eek... anyone understand that lol? |
| 05:27.52 | lightbright | eob84: ISP's do that all the time |
| 05:28.01 | lightbright | eob84: I understood it :) |
| 05:28.11 | lightbright | eob84: so there should be a way |
| 05:28.12 | eob84 | not sure how... is it a chroot thing? |
| 05:28.14 | rellik | is it safe to set the super-user reserved space to 0% when making an ext3 fs? |
| 05:28.21 | lightbright | eob84: im too new to know, sorry |
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| 05:29.46 | dmz | should this concern me: W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG F1D53D8C4F368D5D Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 05:29.50 | eob84 | anyone know a way to keep a user from backing out of their home direcotry? |
| 05:29.51 | dmz | apt-get update doesn't fix it |
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| 05:31.15 | liable | rellik: for a non system partition it shouldnt be a problem |
| 05:31.22 | rellik | liable, thanks |
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| 05:31.30 | EdibleText | litage, perhaps run 'find / -type f -name run' and see if something shows up. the djb stuff is non-complient, also tricky to setup at times |
| 05:31.42 | close_to_debian | I get this error when booting to my new kernel. I have used the same config file as 2.6.12 kernel |
| 05:31.43 | close_to_debian | http://sial.org/pbot/14075?wr=on&tidy=on&hl=on&submit=Format+it%21 |
| 05:31.53 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: uh... that can't be the correct dpkg-deb -c output... |
| 05:31.59 | nite613 | eob84: You're talking about a chroot setup. It's not entirely trivial |
| 05:32.12 | eob84 | advanced then |
| 05:32.12 | dondelelcaro | s/lightbright/litage/ |
| 05:32.22 | dondelelcaro | damn tab completion... |
| 05:32.22 | eob84 | I can chroot into a linux evn... |
| 05:32.37 | eob84 | but do I need to provide a bash in thier home directory? |
| 05:32.46 | litage | dondelelcaro: why not? that's what the .deb gave me.. |
| 05:33.06 | nite613 | eob84: Yeah, you'd need all of the bins and libs you want available to the user, like bash, cp, vi, etc |
| 05:33.15 | dondelelcaro | litage: well, the .deb is screwed then, because it's including totally useless source files and other garbage. |
| 05:33.17 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: hehe ;) i know you like me |
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| 05:34.37 | litage | dondelelcaro: shall i recreate it? i don't think it'd generate anything different this time though |
| 05:34.40 | eean | if dpkg-buildpackage fails, is there a way to continue where it left off? (eg not re-compile) |
| 05:34.49 | lightbright | whats the command to search the source server? |
| 05:35.00 | lightbright | if that made sense :P |
| 05:35.04 | eean | aptitude search |
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| 05:35.29 | lightbright | apt-cache search clamav ? |
| 05:35.37 | lightbright | eean: ok thanks |
| 05:36.09 | secher | I left ethereal on more or less accidentally in prom. mode for about 2 hours, and *630,000,000* packets were passed in that time. Is that excessive? Obviously, there's a good deal of relavivity to be dealt with, but we're not talking an OC48 line here. I think 40000 packets a second is a little high for an end line subnet, yes or no? |
| 05:36.11 | dondelelcaro | litage: what is the exact command you used to create this package? |
| 05:36.45 | dondelelcaro | secher: probably |
| 05:36.46 | rellik | what's the purpose of the "lost+found" dir on a new partition? can I delete it? |
| 05:36.47 | eean | lol, .63 billion packets |
| 05:36.59 | KB0PQP | secher where you idle? |
| 05:36.59 | dondelelcaro | rellik: it stores lost inodes, and no, you can't delete it. |
| 05:37.17 | eean | secher: it might be looking at packets headed to other computers? |
| 05:37.33 | rellik | dondelelcaro, thanks |
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| 05:37.46 | secher | KBOPOP: yes eean: yes, it was in promiscuious mode. |
| 05:38.10 | azzzza | is there a "mac os" like window manager for debian? |
| 05:38.15 | litage | dondelelcaro: ``dpkg -i ./daemontools-installer_0.76-9_all.deb''. when it tried to run get-daemontools, i ctrl+c'd it because the box it was running on doesn't have internet access. i copied the daemontools source .tar.gz into the appropriate path, and ran build-daemontools |
| 05:38.27 | KB0PQP | secher may want to look at the packets to see what they are... |
| 05:38.51 | secher | I think there's a screamer on the line flooding the subnet with brodast packets, which is causing my really slow transfer rates. |
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| 05:39.02 | eob84 | do I have to copy bin bash into the user directory each time? |
| 05:39.39 | secher | KB0PQP: mainly broadcast from a single IP. |
| 05:39.43 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know what the purpose of dummy packages are? |
| 05:39.46 | KB0PQP | secher find the ip / mac addy and find the hardware thats doing it... thats all u can do.. |
| 05:40.10 | KB0PQP | secher do u have control of the whole network? |
| 05:40.25 | secher | KB0PQP: No, it's my ISP. |
| 05:40.47 | KB0PQP | secher well good luck heh... call em.. |
| 05:40.48 | concept10 | I have the package libapache2-mod-php4 installed but I cant find libphp4.so, any siggestions? |
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| 05:42.02 | bob2 | TwistedEmotions: ease transitions to new package names |
| 05:42.07 | secher | KB0PQP: Did already, they told me it had something to do with flagged and unflagged packets. Not sure what that means, and the tech didn't know either, which leads me to believe it's a BFOH excuse. |
| 05:42.09 | bob2 | concept10: dpkg -L libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 05:42.16 | secher | *BOFH |
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| 05:42.55 | KB0PQP | secher not much else you can do.. but bug them... |
| 05:43.39 | secher | KB0PQP: I am, believe me. Kk. night. too tired to think straight. Peace. |
| 05:43.44 | concept10 | bob2, thanks |
| 05:43.44 | TwistedEmotions | bob2: to satisfy the required packages and all that? |
| 05:44.03 | bob2 | TwistedEmotions: yes, and so people who upgrade from one release to the next get the replacement package installed |
| 05:45.04 | litage | dondelelcaro: i removed /service/supervise/ and everything's peachy |
| 05:45.15 | TwistedEmotions | bob2: ahh kk ty |
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| 05:49.44 | concept10 | this is such crap, my php4 bindings are screwed. When I attempt to open a PHP script, firefox asks to download a .phtml file. Where am i going wrong with this? I have added the handler in apache2 |
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| 05:51.04 | bob2 | read your apache error.log |
| 05:51.07 | bob2 | does it mention php? |
| 05:51.20 | Gnea | grrr - any samba gurus awake? #samba is d-e-a-d |
| 05:51.37 | lightbright | concept10: take a deep breath, count to 10. relax. and then try to focus on a solution |
| 05:51.40 | Gnea | got this all setup for logins, now the logins are failing all of a sudden |
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| 05:52.31 | lightbright | concept10: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 05:52.55 | lightbright | concept10: did you install libapache2-mod-php4 yet? |
| 05:53.20 | douglas | If I am in remotely and i do a shutdown now, not being able to hit ctrl D, am i kinda screwed? and on top of that, in my linksys setup, i told it to disconnect hoping that would trigger watchdog. Do these things fire back up on their own or am i screwed until i get back to the box |
| 05:53.31 | lightbright | concept10: it worked for me after I installed 3 php4 things |
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| 05:53.34 | Gnea | i keep getting this message: setup_new_vc_session: New VC == 0, if NT4.x compatible we would close all old resources. |
| 05:53.56 | Gnea | douglas: 'reboot' would be better than 'shutdown' |
| 05:54.00 | lightbright | concept10: apt-get install php4-gd |
| 05:54.10 | Gnea | douglas: if it wants ctrl-d then yeah, yer screwed |
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| 05:54.36 | lightbright | concept10: did you: install apt-get install php4-gd ? |
| 05:54.42 | Gnea | douglas: but it's possible to bypass that by making the / fsck not do that (one of the numbers in /etc/fstab on the right has to get changed) |
| 05:54.57 | concept10 | lightbright, I have those installed already |
| 05:55.21 | lightbright | concept10: apt-get install php4-pear |
| 05:55.36 | lightbright | concept10: i installed those 3 and it worked for me |
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| 05:55.58 | lightbright | concept10: did you restart apache2? |
| 05:55.58 | concept10 | lightbright, let me try those last two packages |
| 05:56.12 | douglas | well... i guess for the future i'll just avoid shutting down like that remotely. |
| 05:56.19 | lightbright | concept10: yeah try them., for php4 only worked for me once I installed those |
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| 05:57.01 | douglas | would the linksys recet to connect if unplugged and replugged so i can have someone take care of it for me? |
| 05:57.10 | douglas | recet/reset |
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| 05:57.42 | Gnea | nevermind, got it! :D |
| 05:57.53 | douglas | the pppoe scripts are on the dsl adapter |
| 05:58.50 | douglas | ahh nevermind sounds like a lost cause, i'll wait to tomorrow |
| 05:58.52 | lightbright | concept10: how did that go? |
| 05:59.06 | bob2 | my linksys comes up fine with ssh after a power cycle |
| 05:59.16 | roby | Where are .deb files downloaded to by apt? |
| 05:59.26 | bob2 | roby: they get cached in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 05:59.29 | lightbright | concept10: then dont forget to restart apache2 |
| 05:59.35 | douglas | bob2: what do you mean with ssh? |
| 05:59.36 | concept10 | lightbright, still the same, its a problem with a handler. I didnt install php4-pear. too much junk |
| 05:59.37 | roby | bob2: thanks |
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| 06:00.05 | douglas | you ssh into it? |
| 06:00.05 | bob2 | douglas: as in I could log into it fine |
| 06:00.29 | litage | how do you set the system-wide umask? |
| 06:00.30 | lightbright | concept10: k |
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| 06:00.47 | douglas | ... but i still couldn't get the linux box running since i shut it down remotely and can't hit control d |
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| 06:01.06 | encompass | I don't know if the people here remember me trying to get my wireless nick working... but I got it working |
| 06:01.12 | encompass | I found out the problem |
| 06:01.37 | dvsdude | encompass, enlight us please |
| 06:01.49 | encompass | I noticed that the dhclient doesn{t work properly with two nicks working at the same time |
| 06:01.57 | encompass | so I unpluged the nick |
| 06:02.01 | rend3 | any one switch to dvorakZ |
| 06:02.06 | bob2 | litage: /etc/profile is a good start |
| 06:02.16 | bob2 | litage: bear in mind you cannot enforce it, only suggest it to users |
| 06:02.19 | rend3 | any one switch to dvorak keyboard? |
| 06:02.20 | encompass | resterted and setup the wireless like I have a million times before... this time it works, encryption and all |
| 06:02.20 | lightbright | encompass: write a thesis on it :) |
| 06:02.36 | litage | bob2: isn't that only for console or non-console logins though? |
| 06:02.51 | encompass | I think it is great! I finally have wireless is linux... this took me ages! and I did it! |
| 06:03.11 | bob2 | litage: it depends how people login |
| 06:03.12 | dvsdude | encompass, cheers will remember that for when i set up me wireless |
| 06:03.13 | bob2 | encompass: congrats! |
| 06:03.14 | lightbright | encompass: we are so very proud of you, well done! :) |
| 06:03.25 | litage | bob2: which does /etc/profile cover? |
| 06:03.28 | encompass | I am going to make a howto on it that is for sure... everyone wants to use the ndiswrapper driver but I found this one works without using the driver |
| 06:03.31 | encompass | I am so happy! |
| 06:03.36 | Guerin | encompass: awesome, do it. |
| 06:03.40 | jbroome | score |
| 06:03.43 | rend3 | encompass, laptop or desktop? |
| 06:03.45 | bob2 | litage: logins via console and ssh, and people who run ~/.xsession |
| 06:03.47 | encompass | thanks for your all guys... it is wonderful to have you people around |
| 06:03.52 | litage | thanks bob2 |
| 06:03.56 | lightbright | encompass: great idea, write a how to so that your experience may help others in the future |
| 06:03.57 | Guerin | encompass: just make sure it includes more than "resterted and setup the wireless like I have a million times before" |
| 06:04.05 | encompass | yuppers |
| 06:04.10 | tvn | encompass: it's always good to see nice results after long hard works .... but ask yourself if the results are worth those hard works |
| 06:04.11 | lightbright | encompass: pass on the torch :) |
| 06:04.15 | bob2 | litage: I thin kyou might have to do somethign complicated to catch gdm logins, actually, good point |
| 06:04.20 | encompass | haha |
| 06:04.24 | lightbright | encompass: ;) |
| 06:04.28 | encompass | yes, they were so worth it. |
| 06:04.33 | dvsdude | tvn: what the?? |
| 06:04.35 | encompass | I hate triping on my cord |
| 06:04.37 | amphi | encompass: what card is it? |
| 06:04.46 | encompass | rtl8180 with the opensource driver |
| 06:04.59 | encompass | not the closed one or the ndiswrapper |
| 06:05.04 | lightbright | encompass: it gives a great feeling of achievment, doesnt it? :) |
| 06:05.06 | amphi | encompass: excellent - why did it take so long? ;) |
| 06:05.09 | encompass | oh yes |
| 06:05.18 | encompass | the dhclient thing |
| 06:05.23 | encompass | do you think it is a bug? |
| 06:05.36 | lightbright | encompass: did you climb on top of your roof yet, and did your power move and shout to the world "I DID IT!" ;) |
| 06:05.45 | encompass | dhclient set up my eth0 and if it did I won{t ever get the wlan0 working |
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| 06:05.55 | lightbright | encompass: im sure the neighbours would appreciate sharing your victory ;) |
| 06:05.57 | encompass | I did the power move yes |
| 06:06.01 | encompass | and cried a little |
| 06:06.12 | lightbright | encompass: I love my power move, learned it when I used to work for Anthony Robbins :) |
| 06:06.26 | encompass | cause my wife is going to make fantastic sex when she finds she doesn't have to trip on the cord anymore |
| 06:06.32 | encompass | haha she was getting sick of that |
| 06:06.42 | lightbright | encompass: ok ok, lets keep it clean now :) |
| 06:06.57 | encompass | tis clean... we are married and everything |
| 06:07.07 | encompass | anyway... lvoe you guys, I will see you later. |
| 06:07.09 | dvsdude | lol |
| 06:07.10 | jbroome | "Who's your networking daddy? SAY MY NAME" |
| 06:07.10 | lightbright | encompass: well thats good to know |
| 06:07.14 | lightbright | encompass: byw |
| 06:07.17 | Guerin | power move? wtf |
| 06:07.20 | lightbright | encompass: have fun tonight ;) |
| 06:08.06 | encompass | bob2, SimonRaven , Guerin , and others! |
| 06:08.08 | encompass | oh yes! |
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| 06:08.23 | lightbright | encompass: and dont video tape it this time |
| 06:08.30 | encompass | haha |
| 06:08.35 | encompass | I promise I won't |
| 06:08.40 | lightbright | encompass: bye, was good seeing you again |
| 06:08.49 | liable | wow, wish i got a root every time i got something working in debian :) |
| 06:08.51 | lightbright | encompass: your enthusiam was catchy |
| 06:08.52 | encompass | haha moimoi from finland |
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| 06:09.49 | lightbright | what is bitchx exactly? |
| 06:10.07 | jbroome | lightbright: CLI IRC client with horrible /quit messages |
| 06:10.24 | lightbright | jbroome: ah ok, well, ill stick with xchat ;) |
| 06:10.36 | lightbright | jbroome: can I stop an install? |
| 06:11.00 | lightbright | jbroome: something is downloading to install, can I stop it before download finishes and installs? |
| 06:11.22 | liable | ctrl c |
| 06:11.28 | lightbright | ah thanks :) |
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| 06:12.49 | lightbright | fbi: whats fbi an acronym for? |
| 06:12.58 | lightbright | besides that FBI |
| 06:13.11 | fbi | uh, i give up |
| 06:13.13 | fbi | what |
| 06:13.34 | lightbright | well, you are using it as a nick, was wondering what its an acronym for |
| 06:13.57 | fbi | oooook |
| 06:14.03 | dpower | What packages do i need to edit tcp packet headers? |
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| 06:14.29 | dregan__ | hi |
| 06:14.32 | lightbright | dpower: fbi would know |
| 06:14.49 | some_dude | ok, got a nice fresh install on my debian system |
| 06:14.52 | some_dude | nice and fresh |
| 06:15.01 | dpower | nice |
| 06:15.13 | lightbright | some_dude: hehe |
| 06:15.25 | some_dude | I'm going to trash it by adding programs |
| 06:15.32 | lightbright | some_dude: sounds like you been to the meat market |
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| 06:16.34 | loxley_ | dpower: maybe hping3 |
| 06:16.52 | lightbright | is Nero available for linux yet? |
| 06:16.55 | dpower | would that be in the debian repositories? |
| 06:16.57 | dvsdude | yes |
| 06:17.10 | lightbright | dvsdude: and for debian? |
| 06:17.11 | dvsdude | lightbright, but u goto pay |
| 06:17.23 | lightbright | dvsdude: ah forget that, ill stick with k3b :) |
| 06:17.27 | liable | why bother with nero? |
| 06:17.32 | lightbright | liable: yeah, true |
| 06:17.33 | loxley_ | dpower: yeah |
| 06:17.45 | dvsdude | lightbright, k3b rocks they say k3b better than ner anyway |
| 06:17.56 | dpower | k got it |
| 06:17.59 | dvsdude | nreo still closed source |
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| 06:18.01 | lightbright | dvsdude: yeah, good point |
| 06:18.08 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 06:18.10 | grendal_prime | got my zaurus tonight |
| 06:18.13 | some_dude | i got my DSL fixed, 300kps, it was 30 |
| 06:18.16 | lightbright | zaurus? |
| 06:18.24 | grendal_prime | got openzaurus on it already |
| 06:18.36 | grendal_prime | just found out its debian based.. |
| 06:18.50 | lightbright | grendal_prime: zaurus? |
| 06:19.06 | grendal_prime | pretty frigging cool..i can even get a vnc client for it so i can fix broken windows boxes at work...from my hamic in the front yard |
| 06:19.07 | grendal_prime | hahaha |
| 06:19.13 | dpower | /msg Spudchat get this package, it mite be in your ubuntu repo ... hping3 |
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| 06:19.15 | lightbright | !zaurus |
| 06:19.15 | dpkg | zaurus is, like, a PDA that runs linux (Sharp Zaurus) |
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| 06:19.25 | lightbright | !PDA |
| 06:19.25 | dpkg | [pda] (Personal Digital Assistant) PDAs are basically beefed-up organizers. They have small LCD screens, some form of pen or keyboard input, and software for organization, OCR, and contact management. Some have even more features, such as Web browsing or Internet e-mail. The best ones allow independent developers to write new applications that can be uploaded to the PDA.. Public Display of Affection |
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| 06:20.25 | grendal_prime | hear |
| 06:20.26 | grendal_prime | http://www.sharpusa.com/products/FunctionFaqs/0,1072,29,00.html |
| 06:20.30 | lightbright | Does Ian ever come here? |
| 06:20.32 | dos000 | how can one take screenshots of the text installer ? |
| 06:20.40 | some_dude | I think I'll die, and see if god will let me be death |
| 06:20.45 | chealer | lightbright, I doubt he does |
| 06:20.50 | lightbright | chealer: ok |
| 06:21.28 | rellik | how do I get rid of a defunct process? kill and kill -9 return but the process is still there |
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| 06:22.03 | Spods | hello |
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| 06:22.54 | some_dude | hi |
| 06:22.59 | some_dude | is anyone home |
| 06:23.04 | loxley_ | rellik: You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
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| 06:23.24 | Spods | anyone know what device sit0 is meant to be? i've got errors in my logs when i bring networking down and up again, and it looks like from my searches im not the only one getting it |
| 06:23.30 | loxley_ | rellik: or /msg dpkg defunct |
| 06:23.39 | some_dude | rellik your best bet it to tie it up so it can't kill you and make you a zombie |
| 06:23.55 | Spods | haha |
| 06:24.15 | myren | are there any command line tools which will help me do trigometric math (sine/cosine)? cant find it in zsh |
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| 06:25.06 | tvn | download octave |
| 06:25.11 | rellik | loxley_, hmm.. I exit'ed the terminal that called xmms but still no luck.. reboot my only hope? |
| 06:25.27 | dvsdude | Spods: It's not a real physical network adaptor so you can't use it instead of eth0. sit0 is the generic tunnel device. It's used when setting up IPv6 connections that tunnel through a normal IPv4 connection. |
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| 06:25.47 | EdibleText | myren, bc |
| 06:26.03 | some_dude | where can i change my ip address |
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| 06:26.10 | loxley_ | rellik: yup.... :) but i dont think it might hurt your system though |
| 06:26.14 | liable | man ifconfig |
| 06:26.15 | Spods | dvsdude: thanks. just wanted to know if it was related to the dhcp/ddns problems im having. but if it's a tunneling device, sounds like it's unrelated |
| 06:26.16 | dvsdude | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 06:26.35 | rellik | loxley_, k.. rebooting seems like such a defeat, though :( |
| 06:27.23 | loxley_ | rellik: uhumm.. yeah :/ |
| 06:27.27 | Spods | rellik: does pstree identify the parent process? |
| 06:27.27 | dvsdude | loxley_, is it possible the process has files open maybe lsof ?? just a thought |
| 06:27.36 | loxley_ | dvsdude: yep |
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| 06:27.55 | loxley_ | dvsdude: thats often the case when dealing with zombies |
| 06:28.07 | roby | I installed Eterm, it installed some dependencies, if i remove eterm the dependencies will remain yes? How do I get rid of them? |
| 06:28.12 | dvsdude | loxley_, cool how to close files |
| 06:28.12 | loxley_ | dvsdude: waiting for i/o |
| 06:28.19 | rellik | Spods, ooooohhhh.. the parent was a screen instance! |
| 06:28.21 | some_dude | now how do in restart the network |
| 06:28.34 | loxley_ | rellik: :) |
| 06:28.35 | Spods | rellik: killall screen |
| 06:28.39 | Spods | should do it |
| 06:28.43 | dvsdude | /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 06:28.59 | loxley_ | dvsdude: ohh. nevermind what i told you earlier it was for rellik |
| 06:29.20 | dvsdude | loxley_, np |
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| 06:30.31 | tvn | roby: leave them there, or install something such as debfoster deborphan |
| 06:30.38 | rellik | Spods, exit'd screen but pstree still lists it as the parent.. 'ps -A' doesn't show any 'screen'.. am I missing something? |
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| 06:30.53 | concept10 | lightbright, after all of those problems, it was my cache in firefox |
| 06:31.08 | lightbright | concept10: ah hehe ;) |
| 06:31.08 | concept10 | im pissed |
| 06:31.14 | Spods | rellik: try ps ax|grep screen |
| 06:31.20 | lightbright | concept10: oh well, we learned something |
| 06:31.56 | lightbright | concept10: 2 ways to look at it, be upset and reactive, or see the opportunity of learning and being proactive |
| 06:32.03 | liable | roby: use aptitude, it will remove any dependancies when you remove the program, if you installed it with aptitude |
| 06:32.06 | concept10 | lightbright, I learned linux is fustrating as always |
| 06:32.10 | rellik | Spods, exiting screen changed xmms's parent to init(1).. |
| 06:32.25 | roby | liable: doh |
| 06:32.36 | lightbright | concept10: for me, being new to Linux, i look at it as challenging and fun to learn |
| 06:32.37 | Spods | rellik: were you running xmms from within the screen session? |
| 06:32.47 | roby | liable: i used apt-get |
| 06:32.51 | concept10 | lightbright, problem is, I have done this many times, I was looking at my other sarge server and the config files and they were exactly the same |
| 06:32.56 | rellik | Spods, apparently (that's what it looked like from pstree) |
| 06:33.02 | lightbright | concept10: ok |
| 06:33.09 | rellik | Spods, 'screen -list' doesn't list any sessions though |
| 06:33.16 | lightbright | concept10: yet it ended well :) |
| 06:33.19 | liable | roby: so use aptitude from now on :) |
| 06:33.42 | Spods | rellik: do you need the instance of xmms open? if not you could kill it off couldn't you? |
| 06:33.49 | concept10 | lightbright, php is nothing, try setting up ruby on rails for the first time :) |
| 06:33.50 | liable | roby: but deborphan/foster are your friends too. |
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| 06:34.03 | rellik | Spods, xmms is what I'm trying to kill.. it went defunct |
| 06:34.15 | roby | liable: hm, heard of deborpha, will have a look |
| 06:34.24 | roby | liable: thanks |
| 06:34.29 | lightbright | concept10: no thanks :) sounds too complicated for me |
| 06:34.32 | Spods | rellik: and kill -9 <xmms' process id> doesn't work? |
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| 06:34.42 | lightbright | anyway, bye everyone, see you all tomorrow :) take care |
| 06:34.48 | lightbright | concept10: see you ;) |
| 06:34.56 | loxley_ | rellik: try logging in and out of your windowmanager , as a last test :) |
| 06:35.20 | rellik | Spods, nope, that doesn't kill it |
| 06:35.29 | rellik | loxley_, k, here's hoping :) |
| 06:35.57 | Spods | what about 'killall -9 xmms'? |
| 06:36.13 | loxley_ | Spods: think he allready did that |
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| 06:36.19 | Spods | bugger |
| 06:36.25 | loxley_ | Spods: thats when it went defunct on him :) |
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| 06:36.32 | Spods | hehe |
| 06:36.38 | Spods | not having much luck then |
| 06:37.17 | Spods | rellik: well you could try rebooting like loxley_ says, but it might be easier to change run levels instead |
| 06:37.40 | loxley_ | Spods: he left, to log in and out |
| 06:37.54 | Spods | d'oh! |
| 06:37.57 | Spods | missed that :) |
| 06:38.37 | Spods | !munin-graph |
| 06:38.46 | Spods | !munin |
| 06:38.46 | dpkg | munin is a information graphing system for multiple systems based on rrd. See http://www.linpro.no/projects/munin/ and http://www.linpro.no/projects/munin/example/ping.uio.no/else.ping.uio.no.html FE. |
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| 06:43.07 | caphuso | myren: zmodload zsh/mathfunc; echo $(( asin(0.3) )) |
| 06:43.21 | caphuso | myren: damn, wrong channel here |
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| 06:45.10 | myren | thanks caphuso |
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| 06:51.13 | Lilldude10 | #BleepingComputer |
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| 06:58.16 | Dr_Fie | i need the first or second CD? |
| 06:58.29 | Dr_Fie | linuxiso.org says that the seond CD is the US version |
| 06:58.35 | Dr_Fie | is this right? |
| 06:58.35 | streuner | !d-i |
| 06:58.36 | dpkg | i guess d-i is you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 06:59.10 | alsa_help_newbie | Hi guys.... I have problems setting up alsa... anyone can help me? |
| 06:59.24 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: just ask |
| 06:59.29 | SimonRaven | Dr_Fie: there is no us cd anymore. they have old news |
| 06:59.29 | liable | Dr_Fie: dont get it from there, get it from debian.org |
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| 06:59.52 | alsa_help_newbie | it looks like everything is ok... however no sound |
| 07:00.03 | Dr_Fie | liable: i wasn't getting it from there |
| 07:00.04 | alsa_help_newbie | my soundcard was detected by alsaconf |
| 07:00.07 | UniBg | alsa_help_newbie Hello I live in Bulgaria :) |
| 07:00.26 | alsa_help_newbie | hi... I live in Venezuela |
| 07:00.32 | x86i | lol |
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| 07:00.59 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: run 'aumix' and unmute the channels |
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| 07:01.09 | some_dude | ??? One unofficial repository to rule them all. ??? |
| 07:01.23 | BuNnYy | who live in bogota ? |
| 07:01.24 | Dr_Fie | so do i just need the first disk then? |
| 07:01.35 | BuNnYy | who live in bogota ? |
| 07:01.56 | streuner | !d-i Dr_Fie |
| 07:01.57 | dpkg | Dr_Fie, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 07:01.58 | alsa_help_newbie | aumix.... looks like it's not installed but I alredy did that with alsamixer |
| 07:02.13 | Dr_Fie | !d-i streuner |
| 07:02.14 | dpkg | streuner, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:02.24 | SimonRaven | ffs |
| 07:02.28 | BuNnYy | alsa_help_newbie please say irc server in columbia-bogota |
| 07:02.30 | BuNnYy | ? |
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| 07:02.51 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: start 'xmms' in console as root and tell us what output you get |
| 07:03.04 | alsa_help_newbie | ok |
| 07:03.27 | BuNnYy | alsa_help_newbie please say irc server in columbia-bogota |
| 07:04.28 | Dr_Fie | ......... |
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| 07:04.36 | Dr_Fie | 0.0 |
| 07:04.47 | Dr_Fie | ..... |
| 07:04.48 | Dr_Fie | 0.0 |
| 07:04.49 | alsa_help_newbie | sorry... xmms not installed |
| 07:04.53 | Dr_Fie | 0.0.... like wtf 0.0 |
| 07:05.10 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: apt-get install xmms :-) |
| 07:05.38 | Dr_Fie | !d-i streuner |
| 07:05.38 | dpkg | streuner, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:05.47 | alsa_help_newbie | downloading xmms.... |
| 07:06.20 | streuner | Dr_Fie: why do you repeat this command? |
| 07:06.41 | BuNnYy | how command I register nick ? |
| 07:06.55 | streuner | BuNnYy: /msg nickserv help |
| 07:06.56 | sep | BuNnYy, /msg nickserv help |
| 07:06.57 | Dr_Fie | streuner: i'm just demonstrating how unuseful it is to me |
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| 07:07.32 | Dr_Fie | i'm not finding anything about only downloading one of the disks |
| 07:07.34 | streuner | Dr_Fie: you can demonstrate how clever you are if you just use the URL :-) |
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| 07:07.43 | liable | Dr_Fie: so go read the documentation at debian.org.. |
| 07:07.49 | streuner | Dr_Fie: /msg dpkg ig |
| 07:07.59 | Dr_Fie | i mean seriously.. i can just go use ubuntu and do a server install... |
| 07:07.59 | Dr_Fie | but i figured i like that enough maybe i'll be a debian user |
| 07:08.31 | streuner | wth |
| 07:08.34 | streuner | !ig |
| 07:08.34 | dpkg | methinks ig is the install guide for stable: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for woody (oldstable): http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual |
| 07:08.35 | BuNnYy | sep say irc server in bogota please ??? |
| 07:08.38 | alsa_help_newbie | ok... xmms installed, I ran it and show the player window... in the console a meesage: "device: default" |
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| 07:08.43 | Coke | Dr_Fie: you can just go and use Fedora or Man... Man... Whatever Mandrake is called these days. |
| 07:08.44 | Dr_Fie | streuner: yeah i figured it out |
| 07:08.44 | streuner | !factinfo ig |
| 07:08.45 | dpkg | ig -- last modified at Wed Oct 5 23:03:03 2005 by stew!n=stew@216.254.118.172; it has been requested 38 times, last by streuner, 10s ago. |
| 07:08.58 | Dr_Fie | Coke: how about eat one! :P |
| 07:09.09 | bucky | mandrivel |
| 07:09.13 | liable | Dr_Fie: we are not here to convince you to use debian or molly coddle you.. |
| 07:09.14 | Dr_Fie | red hat or anything created from it licks balls |
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| 07:09.49 | Dr_Fie | liable: no.. you're not.. youre here to tell me which ISOs are needed for me to install this crap |
| 07:10.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 696] by debhelper |
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| 07:10.16 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: maybe you have gone through this, but I just joined; give me kernel version and soundcard chipset. |
| 07:10.16 | Spods | woohoo, got ddns working finally |
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| 07:10.22 | Spods | only took several months |
| 07:10.23 | bucky | Dr_Fie, get the netinstall for i386 if that's the arch you're running |
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| 07:10.31 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: also tell me whether or not your kernel is a custom built or Debian image. |
| 07:10.49 | Coke | Dr_Fie: why can't the Debian website tell you what ISO's to download? |
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| 07:10.50 | liable | Dr_Fie: erm, no, we are here to point you in the right direction, which has been done, so go follow that up.. |
| 07:10.52 | marc7 | anybody know what the deal is with the default debian keymap for nano? backspace == delete, any idea how to change that? |
| 07:10.58 | Dr_Fie | bucky: it is but i'd prefer to download just a single cd :-/ |
| 07:10.59 | alsa_help_newbie | uname -a: Linux MarcBTP-debian 2.4.27-2-586tsc #1 Mon May 16 16:39:36 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 07:11.14 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: just install an 2.6.x kernel |
| 07:11.23 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: ok, so it's not a Debian image. |
| 07:11.26 | marc7 | i'm trying to add "set rebinddelete" in the /etc/nanorc... but nothin' doin' |
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| 07:11.42 | BuNnYy | !start |
| 07:11.43 | dpkg | start is probably what you have to press to stop in Windows |
| 07:11.43 | bucky | Dr_Fie, the 100 MB netinstall iso is the way to go unless you have a marvell gigabyte nic |
| 07:11.45 | alsa_help_newbie | not a debian image? |
| 07:11.48 | BuNnYy | are you have trivia ? |
| 07:11.51 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: just download alsa, compile it and install it, THEN you configure your kernel to include the driver for your soundcard chipset and compile and install the kernel. |
| 07:11.59 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: sure |
| 07:12.05 | Coke | is it? |
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| 07:12.16 | liable | no |
| 07:12.49 | Dr_Fie | nevermind... i'm just going to use ubuntu server install... i see support for debian is shit |
| 07:12.58 | liable | wanker |
| 07:13.00 | alsa_help_newbie | I get alsa via dselect... download some packages and some sources... |
| 07:13.02 | Coke | Dr_Fie: yes, do that. bye. |
| 07:13.44 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: ok, just compile and install ALSA and it will be available in the kernel config. |
| 07:13.51 | alsa_help_newbie | and run module-assistant, select alsa, build, install, etc. |
| 07:14.07 | streuner | dpkg, no ig is <reply> install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 07:14.07 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
| 07:14.12 | liable | why not just use a 2.6 debian image? |
| 07:14.33 | x86i | Dr_Fie: May I try to be of assistance? |
| 07:14.47 | liable | or even a 2.4 one and apt-get the modules? |
| 07:14.53 | SimonRaven | Dr_Fie: go right ahead, who would want to help someone behaving like you are right now anyway? too used to having things handed to you aren't you |
| 07:15.07 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: I don't know how module assistant works, actualy. |
| 07:15.27 | Dr_Fie | SimonRaven: quite, now go get me some tea and crumpets >,< |
| 07:15.29 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: but the ALSA installation instructions are in chapter 3 http://alsa.opensrc.org/Quick+Install |
| 07:15.32 | SimonRaven | we help people willing to help themselves; if you can't deal with that, go hire someone |
| 07:15.33 | liable | just a troll |
| 07:15.35 | Dr_Fie | :P |
| 07:15.42 | SimonRaven | Dr_Fie: go fuck yourself |
| 07:16.02 | Dr_Fie | no.. i just want a simple question answered.. i followed the link.. i clicked on other links.. i dont feel like spending 20 minutes finding a simple answer |
| 07:16.17 | Dr_Fie | i looked at the FAQ |
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| 07:16.21 | x86i | Dr_Fie: What is your question? give it to me plain and simple |
| 07:16.23 | Dr_Fie | i looked at teh wiki.... |
| 07:16.27 | bucky | !tell Dr_Fie about d-i |
| 07:16.30 | alsa_help_newbie | ok |
| 07:16.37 | streuner | Dr_Fie: you got an answer already |
| 07:16.43 | Dr_Fie | x86i: do i need more than the first disk to do a plain deb install? |
| 07:16.50 | x86i | Dr_Fie: No. |
| 07:16.55 | alsa_help_newbie | this alsa compilation doesn't works with my actual kernel (2.4) |
| 07:16.58 | Dr_Fie | thank you |
| 07:17.17 | alsa_help_newbie | so the first thing is upgrade to 2.6 right? |
| 07:17.24 | x86i | Dr_Fie: Once you install the base system, you can use apt-get to get all the packages that are on the cd's |
| 07:17.35 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: it would be the easy way, yes. |
| 07:17.36 | x86i | Dr_Fie: You dont even need the 600+mb iso |
| 07:17.49 | bucky | he won't be able to set up networking because he can't read |
| 07:17.55 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: what do you mean "doesn't work"? |
| 07:17.57 | liable | heh |
| 07:18.04 | Dr_Fie | x86i: thx... i'm just trying to setup something really simple for dhcp/ftp server for a lan party... i was debating slack but package management is ghey... i like ubuntu for a desktop but that's exactly what it's deisgned for |
| 07:18.11 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: besides, why do you think you need ALSA, and just don't run OSS instead? |
| 07:18.12 | liable | !doesn't work |
| 07:18.12 | x86i | Dr_Fie: Debian has something called a net-install image. which is the BARE system, and it downloads the packages you want. |
| 07:18.12 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 07:18.48 | Coke | Dr_Fie: if you like Ubuntu, why not use it? |
| 07:18.50 | BuNnYy | say link for I give Debian |
| 07:19.05 | x86i | Dr_Fie: I use both Debian and Ubuntu as a server. I can honestly say I have not seen a bit of differnce in them, other then some more recent packages for Ubuntu |
| 07:19.06 | Coke | BuNnYy: a doobie doobie dah, do de ri mah! |
| 07:19.06 | alsa_help_newbie | actually I just want sound.... I'm not an expert and this is my first debian (and linux) installation |
| 07:19.11 | Dr_Fie | Coke: i dont need X, etc |
| 07:19.15 | liable | BuNnYy: what exactly are you wanting? |
| 07:19.17 | x86i | I would recommend Ubuntu, if you want it. |
| 07:19.24 | Dr_Fie | i was going to go with devil linux but the cd i burnt wont boot :-/ |
| 07:19.31 | bucky | Dr_Fie, the logo for Ubuntu is pretty ghey |
| 07:19.42 | streuner | nobody recommends ubuntu here, if you want just join #ubuntu |
| 07:19.58 | Dr_Fie | i like ubuntu as a desktop but that's not what i need to run.. i would use TSL but i havn't got a 586 system to use it on |
| 07:20.06 | Dr_Fie | bucky: ok? :) |
| 07:20.07 | Coke | x86i: There's the package integrity that Debian provides, and a part of that quality assurance is to NOT include untested software. (with untested I mean REALLY tested, the Debian way) |
| 07:20.46 | Dr_Fie | Coke: yeah, i think there is a file you can edit though to get work and universal software.. so you get all the goooood stuff |
| 07:20.47 | x86i | Coke: What Im talking about is Ubuntu related packages. Updated for Ubuntu only. Not trying to compare package updates. |
| 07:20.55 | Dr_Fie | or maybe that's just ubuntu.. but it's all apt-get so i think it's the same |
| 07:20.56 | BuNnYy | I want will say http adress for I give Debian linux ? |
| 07:21.14 | liable | BuNnYy: you want to install debian? |
| 07:21.21 | BuNnYy | yes |
| 07:21.25 | streuner | !es |
| 07:21.26 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 07:21.33 | liable | !d-i BuNnYy |
| 07:21.34 | dpkg | BuNnYy, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:21.46 | liable | BuNnYy: go to that url and have a look. |
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| 07:22.11 | BuNnYy | [alpha] [arm] [hppa] [i386] [ia64] [m68k] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [sparc] |
| 07:22.14 | BuNnYy | Á??? |
| 07:22.18 | alsa_help_newbie | I'm reading http://alsa.opensrc.org/Quick+Install page... some question with the configure flags |
| 07:22.22 | x86i | Like I said I use both Ubuntu and Debian. I love them both. Ubuntui is just a little easier for some people. Besides, whats wrong with more distros |
| 07:22.28 | streuner | BuNnYy: what CPU do you have? |
| 07:22.29 | alsa_help_newbie | what is the sequencer support? |
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| 07:22.34 | Coke | BuNnYy: this is Debian, you have to know what you are doing to use it. |
| 07:22.35 | liable | BuNnYy: how do we know what arch you are running? |
| 07:22.38 | streuner | x86i: ubuntu is OT here... |
| 07:22.41 | Coke | BuNnYy: is this your first time with GNU/Linux? |
| 07:22.48 | BuNnYy | 2,60 ghz |
| 07:22.52 | alsa_help_newbie | do I enable OSS emulation? |
| 07:22.53 | BuNnYy | 160 gb |
| 07:23.01 | Coke | BuNnYy: OK, you are NOT fit to use Debian. |
| 07:23.05 | streuner | BuNnYy: AMD or Intel? |
| 07:23.11 | BuNnYy | yes |
| 07:23.22 | streuner | i386 then |
| 07:23.26 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, which kernel are you using? |
| 07:23.26 | Coke | BuNnYy: I recommend you try Knoppix, it requires no installation |
| 07:23.30 | BuNnYy | ok thanks |
| 07:23.31 | alsa_help_newbie | do I enable ISA pnp support? |
| 07:23.45 | Coke | BuNnYy: http://knoppix.org/ |
| 07:23.50 | alsa_help_newbie | 2.4.27-2-586tsc |
| 07:23.53 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: just use an official kernel image of debian |
| 07:23.57 | Coke | BuNnYy: go to "download" |
| 07:24.09 | alsa_help_newbie | which is... 2.6.x? |
| 07:24.15 | eean | where do I globally edit LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
| 07:24.16 | Coke | alsa_help_newbie: you don't want ISA pnp. |
| 07:24.27 | Coke | eean: /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 07:24.31 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-586tsc |
| 07:24.34 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: what CPU do you have? |
| 07:24.38 | BuNnYy | I have knoppix linux |
| 07:24.55 | SimonRaven | eean: you don't. if you have something that's asking for it for it to work, either get something that isn't broken, or fix it |
| 07:24.55 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, and alsa-base |
| 07:24.57 | Coke | BuNnYy: you should learn to use GNU/Linux with Knoppix and come back here when you have more knowledge. |
| 07:25.02 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, and then run alsaconf |
| 07:25.05 | Dr_Fie | yay for non 5KBps downloads! |
| 07:25.28 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, run alsamixer and turn up the volume |
| 07:25.31 | Coke | SimonRaven: sometimes you HAVE to use broken shit, like IBM or SUN products. |
| 07:25.37 | BuNnYy | My internet is fast 512 kbs |
| 07:25.55 | alsa_help_newbie | already done...alsa-base is already the newest version. |
| 07:26.06 | x86i | lol sun products? |
| 07:26.08 | SimonRaven | Not My Problem(tm) |
| 07:26.12 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, did you apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-586tsc |
| 07:26.14 | alsa_help_newbie | alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-586tsc is already the newest version. |
| 07:26.21 | alsa_help_newbie | yes |
| 07:26.30 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, did you run alsaconf ? |
| 07:26.37 | SimonRaven | i'd rather not use it, and go find something else, than have to deal with something that fucked |
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| 07:26.52 | alsa_help_newbie | I have a IBM thinkpad t41 :-) |
| 07:27.12 | BuNnYy | I pull Debian Linux in the moment :) |
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| 07:27.18 | alsa_help_newbie | yes... alsaconf found my sound card very well |
| 07:27.19 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, open up an xterm su into root and run alsaconf |
| 07:27.26 | alsa_help_newbie | ok |
| 07:27.52 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, log out and log back in and run alsamixer.. unmute and turn the volume up |
| 07:28.28 | alsa_help_newbie | MarcBTP-debian:/home/marcb# alsaconf |
| 07:28.30 | alsa_help_newbie | Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-page-alloc). |
| 07:28.31 | alsa_help_newbie | Building card database... |
| 07:28.33 | alsa_help_newbie | Running update-modules... |
| 07:28.34 | alsa_help_newbie | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-586tsc/updates/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o |
| 07:28.38 | alsa_help_newbie | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-586tsc/updates/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o |
| 07:28.38 | alsa_help_newbie | Loading driver... |
| 07:28.39 | alsa_help_newbie | Setting default volumes... |
| 07:28.40 | alsa_help_newbie | =============================================================================== |
| 07:28.42 | alsa_help_newbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.43 | alsa_help_newbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.45 | alsa_help_newbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.55 | SimonRaven | ffs |
| 07:28.59 | x86i | lol I love how it tells you to have a lot of fun |
| 07:29.04 | BuNnYy | wow |
| 07:29.05 | loxley_ | ohh |
| 07:29.06 | bucky | alsa_help_newbie, log out and log back in and run alsamixer.. unmute and turn the volume up |
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| 07:29.18 | liable | fuck sake |
| 07:29.26 | liable | wheres debhelper |
| 07:29.56 | alsa_help_newbie | ok... logging out |
| 07:29.59 | BuNnYy | liable say adress in that I registre mail ? |
| 07:30.30 | bucky | apt where's debhelper |
| 07:30.32 | liable | BuNnYy: what is your native language? you are a bit hard to understand |
| 07:30.50 | streuner | !es |
| 07:30.50 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 07:30.53 | bucky | apt_ where's debhelper |
| 07:31.05 | BuNnYy | My language is bulgarians |
| 07:31.10 | SimonRaven | hm, seems debhelper needs a kick in the butt |
| 07:31.21 | liable | dondelelcaro: debhelper is sleeping |
| 07:31.33 | jm_ | or some people do |
| 07:31.42 | streuner | haha |
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| 07:31.46 | BuNnYy | liable ċ-mail adress say ? |
| 07:31.49 | SimonRaven | hehehe |
| 07:32.03 | bucky | !bg |
| 07:32.03 | dpkg | bg is, like, Bulgaria, or background |
| 07:32.16 | liable | is there a bulgarian channel? |
| 07:32.19 | streuner | no |
| 07:32.21 | streuner | !ru |
| 07:32.21 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 07:32.24 | BuNnYy | yes |
| 07:32.27 | SimonRaven | ask chanserv |
| 07:32.37 | streuner | bulgarians could prolly speak some russian too |
| 07:32.49 | BuNnYy | yes :) |
| 07:33.13 | x86i | Prolly just as well as they speak english |
| 07:33.22 | BuNnYy | irc.unibg.org |
| 07:33.37 | BuNnYy | this bulgarian channels |
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| 07:34.00 | x86i | why am I having flashbacks of the movie, The Terminal |
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| 07:34.48 | liable | x86i: cause of the crack? :P |
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| 07:35.11 | x86i | most likey |
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| 07:35.50 | some_dude | i want to install http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/xen how would i do that ? |
| 07:36.17 | liable | from sarge? |
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| 07:36.24 | BuNnYy | Are you like here serial Pasion de Gavilanes ? :)) |
| 07:37.03 | streuner | some_dude: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
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| 07:38.30 | some_dude | nothing useful |
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| 07:38.41 | streuner | just paste it here |
| 07:38.55 | alsa_help_newbie | no sound... :-( |
| 07:39.44 | some_dude | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 07:39.44 | some_dude | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.48 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: cat /proc/version |
| 07:40.00 | streuner | some_dude: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 07:40.15 | alsa_help_newbie | Linux version 2.4.27-2-586tsc (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Mon May 16 16:39:36 JST 2005 |
| 07:41.21 | streuner | ok, just install an 2.6.x official kernel image now |
| 07:42.01 | streuner | AND answer my question now, why do you think you need ALSA instead of OSS? |
| 07:42.36 | cahoot | did he declare that? |
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| 07:43.34 | alsa_help_newbie | ok... I will install 2.6.x |
| 07:44.01 | alsa_help_newbie | regarding to alsa intead oss... don't have an answer |
| 07:44.15 | alsa_help_newbie | I just need sound and read somewhere... sound needs alsa |
| 07:44.29 | streuner | alsa_ what does 'lspci -v | grep -i audio' say? |
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| 07:45.24 | BuNnYy | streuner say web site for mirc command ? |
| 07:45.30 | gothtec | Are there any publically available VPN servers, something like the Google Secure Access except available from Norway? |
| 07:45.51 | streuner | BuNnYy: /join #debian-russian |
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| 07:46.06 | BuNnYy | óäó |
| 07:46.07 | BuNnYy | wow |
| 07:46.12 | some_dude | I'm looking for an unstable server, and i don't mean IIS, i mean a website hosting unstable packages |
| 07:46.28 | alsa_help_newbie | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) |
| 07:47.09 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: try 'modprobe i810_audio' |
| 07:47.38 | streuner | you aren't that clever then |
| 07:47.53 | streuner | or you know what you are doing |
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| 07:47.57 | alsa_help_newbie | MarcBTP-debian:/home/marcb# modprobe i810_audio |
| 07:47.58 | alsa_help_newbie | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-586tsc/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: init_module: No such device |
| 07:48.00 | alsa_help_newbie | Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. |
| 07:48.01 | alsa_help_newbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:48.03 | alsa_help_newbie | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-586tsc/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-586tsc/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o failed |
| 07:48.03 | BuNnYy | streuner say web site for mirc command ? |
| 07:48.04 | alsa_help_newbie | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-586tsc/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: insmod i810_audio failed |
| 07:48.07 | liable | alsa_help_newbie: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 07:48.37 | alsa_help_newbie | MarcBTP-debian:/home/marcb# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 07:48.38 | alsa_help_newbie | 3.1 |
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| 07:48.55 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: nevermind :-) just install an 2.6.x kernel :-) |
| 07:49.02 | alsa_help_newbie | ok |
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| 07:49.24 | BuNnYy | Hoe clock in columbia ? |
| 07:49.44 | BuNnYy | how clock in columbia ? |
| 07:49.47 | alsa_help_newbie | I'm in dselect now... "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 386" will be fine? |
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| 07:50.14 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: should work too |
| 07:50.26 | liable | hrm debhelper is awake. |
| 07:50.34 | streuner | if you can't find an 586tsc kernel just choose i386 |
| 07:50.49 | alsa_help_newbie | I guess is the only one I can install... the others are for adm or intel 64 |
| 07:51.01 | alsa_help_newbie | no 586tsc |
| 07:51.20 | streuner | heh |
| 07:51.32 | liable | wtf is 586tsc? |
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| 07:52.18 | mattfury | im trying to install java for ff, where would the ff dir be? |
| 07:52.34 | BartVB | 586tsc is for the Pentium-Classic (according to Google :D) |
| 07:52.42 | mattfury | ? |
| 07:52.54 | BuNnYy | Are you have here Bnc ? |
| 07:53.02 | idealbsd | why mouse doesn't work in w3m installed in debian/sid, is it complied without mouse support? |
| 07:53.24 | alsa_help_newbie | my computer is Pentium M... 386 will work fine? |
| 07:53.31 | liable | yes |
| 07:53.37 | BartVB | mattfury: did you try Google? :) |
| 07:53.48 | mattfury | it came up with the ff faq. |
| 07:53.53 | mattfury | it doesnt tell me. |
| 07:54.21 | BuNnYy | how have yahoo and skype ? |
| 07:54.49 | BartVB | mattfury: first hit in google: http://xtronics.com/reference/java-debian-mozilla.html |
| 07:54.57 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: should work too |
| 07:55.07 | streuner | alsa_help_newbie: yes, just use an i386 kernel |
| 07:55.09 | liable | BuNnYy: please ask in a chennel that can understand you. |
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| 07:55.30 | mattfury | BartVB, well i cant google. |
| 07:55.59 | alsa_help_newbie | ok.. thank you I'm downloading now with apt 1h5m to go (very slow connection 13.9 kb/s) |
| 07:56.12 | liable | ouch! |
| 07:56.27 | BuNnYy | None no wrote there |
| 07:56.40 | BartVB | mattfury: meuh? you can use IRC and not the web? :D try apt-get install links2 |
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| 07:59.58 | alsa_help_newbie | after kernel installation... sound should be ready or we need to do more things? |
| 08:00.31 | streuner | !alsa |
| 08:00.31 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
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| 08:02.09 | alsa_help_newbie | I need to download alsa for this new particular kernel? |
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| 08:02.25 | dobbyX | . |
| 08:02.32 | streuner | ALSA modules are already in an 2.6.x kernel |
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| 08:02.39 | liable | alsa_help_newbie: no |
| 08:02.53 | alsa_help_newbie | ok.. thanx |
| 08:04.13 | dondelelcaro | liable: actually, that flood didn't happen fast enough for debhelper to trigger. |
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| 08:04.49 | liable | dondelelcaro: oh. bugger |
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| 08:05.26 | dondelelcaro | so long as the bot is updating the +l, it's alive. |
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| 08:06.01 | liable | yeah noticed that afterwards.. |
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| 08:09.32 | dondelelcaro | liable: no worries... |
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| 08:10.49 | encompass | howdy all |
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| 08:11.07 | kagou | hi |
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| 08:11.21 | encompass | was hoping a could get some serious review on my first big bash script... anyone willing to help me debug it? |
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| 08:11.40 | gothtec | Are there any publically available VPN servers, something like the Google Secure Access except available from Norway? |
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| 08:12.15 | gothtec | It doesn't have to be fast, as long as it works... |
| 08:12.57 | kagou | i want to remove all package installed on my system, that are in my /var/cache/apt directory. Of course a "dpkg -remove *.deb" don't work cause dpkg stand for a package name, not the package filename |
| 08:13.04 | liable | encompass: try #bash |
| 08:13.22 | encompass | sure... thanks |
| 08:13.41 | kagou | any ideas ?! |
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| 08:14.17 | liable | kagou: why are you wanting to do this? |
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| 08:15.12 | cahoot | kagou: you want to clean out /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 08:15.53 | kagou | liable, i'v compiled a soft, so i installed many package for this (lib / dev ...), all are in my /var/cache/apt |
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| 08:16.07 | kagou | nox i want to remove all of them |
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| 08:16.11 | kagou | now i want to remove all of them |
| 08:17.40 | liable | kagou: debfoster may be the easiest option here. |
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| 08:18.09 | yang__ | Where can I test 100mbit Download speed? |
| 08:18.25 | xelam | 100 millibit? that's slooooow |
| 08:18.32 | liable | but i am sure you could pipe the list to sed or something and then onto dpkg. |
| 08:18.58 | BartVB | yang_: at your provider is the safest bet :) |
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| 08:19.28 | liable | yang__: download a big file from a fast mirror with wget.. |
| 08:19.32 | yang__ | i need some remote site, which debian mirror is fast? |
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| 08:20.08 | kagou | liable, yes debfoster will be a solution...if i was using it before ;) I think that the solution is to extract package name from *.deb and pipe it to dpkg |
| 08:20.33 | sep | yang_, testing something remote is usualy a little pointless. since you have no idea where the congestation of the day is. |
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| 08:20.36 | liable | kagou: yep, sed and xargs are prolly what you want. |
| 08:20.58 | sep | yang_, atlest start by testing close. then moving further out as you try |
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| 08:21.33 | kagou | liable, am I so stupid that i found normal to use "dpkg -remove *.deb", cause "dpkg -install *.deb" works ... :p |
| 08:21.57 | kagou | may be i 'll do a bug report for this |
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| 08:23.21 | Capkirk | trying to use the options --backup and --backup-to with the perlscript in debian called deluser but allthough i specify where to backup users home dirs all i get is an empty file fx username.tar.bz2 does anyone have a clue? |
| 08:23.33 | encompass | what is the address for debians paste area online? |
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| 08:23.45 | liable | !paster |
| 08:23.45 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 08:24.01 | encompass | I need it specifically |
| 08:24.12 | encompass | for a totally diff project |
| 08:24.19 | yang__ | sep: so a mirror from my countrys would be good to test? |
| 08:24.24 | encompass | oh there |
| 08:24.24 | encompass | sorry |
| 08:24.25 | encompass | haha |
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| 08:24.32 | encompass | thanks guys |
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| 08:26.51 | yang__ | sep: If I want to download with 50k/s from a mirror 15 hops away...that means all the hops must have a link with "at least" 50k/s bandwidth? |
| 08:26.59 | litage | how do you configure dnscache to allow queries from any ip address? |
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| 08:29.15 | FlyLINE | caht |
| 08:29.32 | fireba11 | yang_: a good mirror for you should not be 15 hops away though |
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| 08:31.06 | sep | yang_, naturally. but if testing your line is what you want then using something that is 2-3 hops away (like your isp's ftp server) would mean less uncertina elements |
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| 08:35.10 | technos | moo. |
| 08:35.54 | some_dude | moo |
| 08:36.05 | FlyLINE | Hi |
| 08:36.15 | some_dude | what is a light weight WM i can set the background color on ? |
| 08:36.47 | technos | twm? |
| 08:37.11 | some_dude | i grabed blackbox my mistake |
| 08:37.15 | some_dude | by mistake |
| 08:38.33 | technos | doesn't get any lighter than that |
| 08:38.46 | some_dude | i want to set my background color to be 0x000001 |
| 08:39.12 | FlyLINE | hi |
| 08:40.19 | some_dude | if i set my color to 1 i will get a naked lady in my display |
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| 08:40.43 | pureone | lucky you ;) |
| 08:40.46 | FlyLINE | Now,I use xchat-text.Please tell me the command to talk with someone. |
| 08:41.56 | technos | lcd easter egg? |
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| 08:42.40 | some_dude | my Windows Box has an alpha color |
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| 08:43.33 | xtf | Hi. I've got testing/security-updates in sources.list and it causes GPG error: NO_PUBKEY. Why is that key not found? |
| 08:44.39 | dondelelcaro | xtf: what is the key id? |
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| 08:45.32 | xtf | 946AA6E18722E71E |
| 08:45.41 | some_dude | got it |
| 08:45.49 | dondelelcaro | !apt-key 8722E71E |
| 08:45.52 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 8722E71E ; gpg --export 8722E71E | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 08:46.25 | xtf | Why do I need to do that manually? |
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| 08:47.11 | haluk16 | slm |
| 08:47.40 | dondelelcaro | xtf: because you're using the testing security archive which doesn't have its key in the keyring. |
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| 08:47.48 | dondelelcaro | indeed, I don't know whose key that is either. |
| 08:48.17 | dondelelcaro | since the only person who has signed it is someone whose key isn't signed by anyone |
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| 08:49.03 | xtf | Where should I file a bug about that? |
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| 08:50.21 | dondelelcaro | xtf: there's no bug to file. That archive isn't official, so there's no bug about it at all. |
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| 08:52.06 | xtf | Isn't it on the officiel debian mirrors? |
| 08:52.30 | technos | need to find a few more to sign that key. |
| 08:52.36 | dondelelcaro | xtf: no, it's not. |
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| 08:53.15 | dondelelcaro | xtf: the mirror keys are 4A560152 (2005) and 1DB114E0 (2004) |
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| 08:54.21 | dondelelcaro | xtf: the former of which is signed by vorlon, hmh, and aj. |
| 08:54.33 | xtf | Hmm. |
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| 08:55.29 | ryan10 | how do i install the nvidia driver under debian 3.1? |
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| 08:56.15 | hansi_xp | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.18 | hansi_xp | :D |
| 08:56.37 | SimonRaven | same way as any other debian box? |
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| 08:56.57 | SimonRaven | !tell ryan10 -about nvidia howto |
| 08:57.02 | SimonRaven | !tell ryan10 -about nvidia one-liner |
| 08:57.16 | chealer | ryan: if you're talking about NVIDIA's proprietary graphics drivers, check the factoids SimonRaven sent you |
| 08:57.29 | ryan10 | thanks SimonRaven and chealer |
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| 09:03.00 | Buz | hello, i want to download sid on dvd using jigdo, but i can't find the .jigdo's, someone knows where to find it? |
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| 09:03.22 | dondelelcaro | Buz: debian.org/CD has links to them from the jigdo section |
| 09:03.52 | FlyLINE | f |
| 09:03.53 | SimonRaven | get sarge or etch. by the time you finished building the jigdo dvd you'll have to update it |
| 09:04.14 | deadcat_ | GUI debian installer eh? |
| 09:04.27 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 09:04.30 | Buz | dondelelcaro, yes, they poing to http://www.fsn.hu/ but the directory is empty :-/ |
| 09:04.38 | Buz | s/poing/point/ |
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| 09:05.17 | Buz | SimonRaven, yes, i just want a snapshot of the latest debian |
| 09:05.21 | dondelelcaro | Buz: sid dvds are utterly and totally pointless. |
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| 09:06.14 | Buz | dondelelcaro, what if someone wants to install the latest debian and doesn't have inet connection? |
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| 09:06.48 | fireba11 | debian wihout net connection at least once in a while doesn't make much sense either |
| 09:06.54 | dondelelcaro | Buz: you install sarge or similar, or you use apt-zip. |
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| 09:16.11 | p2b | what hsync should i use with a standard 19" monitor? |
| 09:16.29 | p2b | 31,5-82 ? |
| 09:16.53 | liable | !hwinfo |
| 09:16.54 | dpkg | hmm... hwinfo is your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 09:17.07 | jm_ | sounds a bit on the lame side for 19" CRT |
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| 09:17.40 | p2b | so? where can i found my hsync values? |
| 09:18.21 | jm_ | in the manual |
| 09:18.50 | goldeDoubt | do you know how to launch a application in gnome in a specific workspace using the commandline? |
| 09:19.56 | p2b | -_- |
| 09:19.58 | borco | is anybody here using evolution from unstable? the addressbook is not working with evolution-plugins-2.2.3-5 and I was curious if this is happening to averybody else or only here... Also, did anybody try the evolution from experimental? |
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| 09:21.23 | bibe | hi all. where can I ask questions about EDID values for XFree86, please? I have some problems with a driver update |
| 09:21.28 | liable | goldeDoubt: #gnome on irc.gnome.org (i think thats the server) |
| 09:21.30 | dondelelcaro | s/Brian/Bernd/ |
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| 09:22.07 | liable | borco: bts? |
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| 09:22.39 | goldeDoubt | liable:thnks |
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| 09:24.16 | Buz | fireba11 why it doesn't make sense? it has more recent packages and it works (i guess :) |
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| 09:25.01 | Beleys | Yop |
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| 09:25.26 | borco | liable, nothing specific about the addressbook... till now, this looks to be the only broken thing ... unfortunately it is a major stopper :( |
| 09:25.50 | fireba11 | Buz if you ask me nowadays a computer that is permanently without net connection is pretty usless if you don't have any special needs |
| 09:25.55 | liable | borco: guess you should file a bug then. |
| 09:26.14 | borco | liable, i've checked it before coming here (as everybody here send me to the bts :)ïĵ |
| 09:26.22 | liable | :) |
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| 09:26.42 | borco | liable, yep, but it will not solve my need :/ |
| 09:26.56 | liable | borco: dont run sid then :) |
| 09:27.19 | borco | liable, I've seen in the experimental something like evolution 2.4 and I was curious if it's usable ... |
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| 09:28.08 | liable | borco: i would seriously steer away from experimental if i were you, unless you have exceptional debugging skills. |
| 09:28.10 | sep | borco, it it was useable it woudnt be in experimental, |
| 09:28.16 | liable | !experimental |
| 09:28.17 | dpkg | experimental is the bloody edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. |
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| 09:29.52 | tictac | hmm. |
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| 09:30.25 | tictac | after purging ssh, and rm -rf'ing /etc/ssh, /etc/init.d/ssh scripts are still around. |
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| 09:31.19 | tictac | another thing, after installing ssh after the purge, the keys aren't generated and /etc/ssh isnt around either. |
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| 09:31.50 | AwesomeMachine | different dirs |
| 09:31.55 | jak | Any body know how to get apt to mass-upgrade anything with version 4:3.4.2-?? to 4:3.4.3-?? |
| 09:32.01 | liable | !force overwrite |
| 09:32.01 | dpkg | The reason you have been told to use --force-overwrite is because some packages in unstable are buggy and either have missing Conflicts: or contain files that they shouldn't. Check the BTS and make sure that a bug has been filed about the package in question (ask me about <bts>) then run dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/.deb or apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <foopackagename>; |
| 09:32.21 | liable | hrm, |
| 09:33.29 | tictac | AwesomeMachine: diff dirs? umm. what? |
| 09:33.41 | liable | tictac: if you remove config files (manually) and then install the package again, dpkg thinks you have done it for a reason and doesnt put them back. |
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| 09:34.08 | ryan | does anyone know how you go about making your gdm screen the same resolution as your desktop? my gdm appears to be 1280x1024 but my desktop has been set to 1024x768. I would like the gdm to display at 1024x768 also. |
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| 09:34.23 | tictac | liable: i figured purge deleted the conf dirs |
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| 09:34.57 | liable | tictac: obviously not, if you had to remove them yourself. |
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| 09:36.00 | liable | tictac: follow the last bit of the force-overide factoid dpkg just said. |
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| 09:36.41 | filleokus | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:37.04 | l3mr | i recently upgraded my debian system and now x doesn't start automatically anymore. i see "kdm is starting" but then i'm asked to login to the shell.. startx after logging in works fine.. any ideas? |
| 09:37.44 | liable | l3mr: check bts for kdm, and also logs |
| 09:38.12 | mlewis00 | Is there anyone online right now that is subscribed to debian-laptop that could check to see if an email that I sent made it to the list? I don't see it in the archives and I wasn't subscribed to the list when I sent it... |
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| 09:38.51 | mlewis00 | It was sent on the 31st and the subject is: 'XF86Config-4.synaptics HOWTO...Acer Travelmate 2413LCi...' Thanks! |
| 09:39.10 | messia | torno dopo stacco per un po.. |
| 09:39.35 | liable | excuse me? |
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| 09:40.27 | cahoot | mlewis00: it's even replied to |
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| 09:41.30 | tictac | liable: still doesnt work. |
| 09:41.49 | liable | are the files back? |
| 09:41.57 | tictac | no. |
| 09:42.02 | mlewis00 | cahoot: Hmm...thanks, I can't find it in the archives and when I subscribed to the list the first time on list.debian.org it didn't go through... :( |
| 09:42.18 | liable | tictac: what command did you give? |
| 09:42.31 | tictac | btw, i think dpkg is wrong. afaik it should be apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-overwrite" install <package> |
| 09:42.36 | mlewis00 | cahoot: I appreciate that...at least I know not to resend it :) |
| 09:42.38 | tictac | instead of the :: after Options |
| 09:43.01 | tictac | either way, the files are not generated |
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| 09:43.36 | liable | well, dondelelcaro wrote that one, so i dunno. would have thought it a safe bet.. |
| 09:43.50 | cahoot | mlewis00: oddly enough the I can't see the original post only the reply: http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2005/11/msg00001.html |
| 09:43.57 | tictac | doh |
| 09:44.08 | tictac | correction. should be.. |
| 09:44.28 | tictac | apt-get -o "DPkg::Options=--force-overwrite" install <package> |
| 09:45.06 | tictac | hmm, that doesnt work either. |
| 09:45.16 | mlewis00 | cahoot: Hmmm, that's strange...I'll take a look... |
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| 09:46.01 | liable | is the DPkg bit right? try dpkg.. |
| 09:46.30 | SimonRaven | referring to the perl module TMK |
| 09:46.37 | ryan | how do i change the default resolution of x? |
| 09:46.47 | tictac | thats what 'everyone' is using from what google is generating |
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| 09:48.19 | mlewis00 | cahoot: I don't know...that would seem to indicate that an administrator removed the message after it was posted to the list... |
| 09:48.23 | l3mr | liable no error messages in kdm.log, i already checked, and nothing special in .xsession-errors |
| 09:48.37 | tictac | ryan: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 09:49.01 | ryan | tictac, it is safe to make changes to the file? |
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| 09:49.14 | BuNnYy | milene |
| 09:49.16 | BuNnYy | 6to pravi6 |
| 09:49.17 | BuNnYy | be :) |
| 09:49.23 | some_dude | for samba, ssh, vncserver, fluxbox, and java, can i get by with a 100mg / with a 500mg /usr ? |
| 09:49.27 | UND3RT4K3R | ieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 09:49.35 | BuNnYy | tuka site sa [ederasi |
| 09:49.36 | BuNnYy | haha |
| 09:49.39 | UND3RT4K3R | xAxaXXayYXyxaxyaxyXYAxyXxaxaxXYayxaxYxaAa.... |
| 09:49.43 | SimonRaven | milligrams? |
| 09:49.59 | mlewis00 | cahoot: I hope they didn't consider my Synaptics Touchpad HOWTO to be spam or something...I was trying to get it someplace where it could be found by google since I had so much trouble getting it set up correctly. |
| 09:50.02 | BuNnYy | UND3RT4K3R> glei |
| 09:50.02 | some_dude | hehe |
| 09:50.03 | BuNnYy | kefi6lite |
| 09:50.04 | BuNnYy | tika |
| 09:50.05 | BuNnYy | ? |
| 09:50.10 | pureone | ? |
| 09:50.15 | UND3RT4K3R | da |
| 09:50.19 | UND3RT4K3R | qko vai |
| 09:50.23 | BuNnYy | ahha |
| 09:50.25 | BuNnYy | kaji ne6to |
| 09:50.26 | pureone | !english |
| 09:50.26 | liable | stop it. |
| 09:50.26 | dpkg | from memory, english is a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!! |
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| 09:50.44 | some_dude | 100mb root 500mbusr 500mb swap |
| 09:50.47 | davis | hello |
| 09:50.48 | BuNnYy | pureone I speak bulgarian |
| 09:50.48 | BuNnYy | haha |
| 09:50.55 | BuNnYy | Milene are navanka v petuk ? |
| 09:50.58 | SimonRaven | millibars? |
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| 09:51.07 | liable | BuNnYy: so go elsewhere, we speak english here. |
| 09:51.13 | some_dude | SimonRaven yes, i converted for you |
| 09:51.19 | SimonRaven | thanks ;) |
| 09:51.29 | some_dude | you think that will do it ? |
| 09:51.30 | UND3RT4K3R | [ BuNnYy ] : i speak bilgerian |
| 09:51.35 | BuNnYy | ahhaah |
| 09:51.38 | BuNnYy | yes |
| 09:51.47 | UND3RT4K3R | epa noo qsno |
| 09:51.50 | tictac | bah. i wish there was some more 'error output' when using -o |
| 09:51.50 | BuNnYy | I and UND3RT4K3R speaking bulgarian |
| 09:52.15 | SimonRaven | some_dude: 100 MB for / is a bit small, esp. if you don't have a /var. what's the drive's size? |
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| 09:52.28 | some_dude | 40gig |
| 09:52.37 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 09:52.38 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 09:52.41 | SimonRaven | tictac: set dpkg debug flags maybe |
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| 09:52.46 | BuNnYy | da vi eba maikata |
| 09:52.48 | BuNnYy | asite |
| 09:52.49 | BuNnYy | haha |
| 09:52.50 | some_dude | but I'm running virtual computers under xen |
| 09:53.01 | some_dude | I'm trying to cut the down |
| 09:53.02 | BuNnYy | UND3RT4K3R ç˙êŭüġñċ |
| 09:53.08 | BuNnYy | UND3RT4K3R psuvanie |
| 09:53.09 | BuNnYy | davai |
| 09:53.09 | BuNnYy | haha |
| 09:53.12 | SimonRaven | oh i see. hmm. how many? |
| 09:53.18 | BuNnYy | da vi eba maiakta |
| 09:53.19 | some_dude | 10 |
| 09:53.20 | liable | BuNnYy: go elsewhere please. |
| 09:53.23 | UND3RT4K3R | mama vi deba acigani neshtasni |
| 09:53.28 | UND3RT4K3R | pi4ka vi lelina |
| 09:53.29 | PerfDave | !ops UND3RT4K3R and BuNnYy |
| 09:53.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: UND3RT4K3R and BuNnYy |
| 09:53.39 | davis | i am trying to use vnc from a windows box to connect to a server running debian. Everything works including the cursor keys in the bash shell. However, I have this one app which prints an "8" everytimg I type up-arrow. If use a linux client to ssh -X to the same debian server then this app works ok with the up arrow as a command repeater. Any idea what needs to be done? |
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| 09:53.45 | BuNnYy | da vi eba maiakta |
| 09:53.45 | RichiH | BuNnYy, UND3RT4K3R: huh? |
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| 09:53.52 | some_dude | I'm trying to keep them under 1gig each |
| 09:53.55 | SimonRaven | bnuSTFU please you're not adding to the discussion, nor helping people, go away or start beahving |
| 09:53.55 | UND3RT4K3R | mama vi deba cigani neshtasni |
| 09:54.00 | BuNnYy | ahahah teq ni psuvat milene |
| 09:54.00 | BuNnYy | haahha |
| 09:54.07 | liable | fuck off |
| 09:54.16 | davis | i see a kick comming. |
| 09:54.16 | mbn | how do i know the network adapter is working in 100mb full duplex ? |
| 09:54.20 | SimonRaven | *plonk* * 2 |
| 09:54.20 | RichiH | BuNnYy, UND3RT4K3R: please stop |
| 09:54.21 | BuNnYy | liable I chating here |
| 09:54.28 | some_dude | road |
| 09:54.33 | UND3RT4K3R | XaxAxAXaaxAXAaxXAaxaxXaxxAXAXaxaXAXaXaXxaXXAXAXaxaxaxaaxaxAXAXAaxaXAXaxAXAxAXaxAxAXaaxAXAaxXAaxaxXaxxAXAXaxaXAXaXaXxaXXAXAXaxaxaxaaxaxAXAXAaxaXAXaxAXAxAXaxAxAXaaxAXAaxXAaxaxXaxxAXAXaxaXAXaXaXxaXXAXAXaxaxaxaaxaxAXAXAaxaXAXaxAXAxAXaxAxAXaaxAXAaxXAaxaxXaxxAXAXa |
| 09:54.34 | BuNnYy | da vi eba maiakta kakvo stop ? |
| 09:54.35 | UND3RT4K3R | XaxaxyYXayxayxYXyAxyaxyayxayxyYyYXaYXYXXAXAxaxyaxyaYXAYXAxaxaXAXAYXxyayxaYXAYXyxaXYAXYAyxXYyxaYXaYxYXyxayxayxXYXyXAxaxaaa |
| 09:54.36 | UND3RT4K3R | xAxaXXayYXyxaxyaxyXYAxyXxaxaxXYayxaxYxaAa.... |
| 09:54.38 | UND3RT4K3R | ix] |
| 09:54.40 | UND3RT4K3R | xixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixixi |
| 09:54.40 | SimonRaven | dumb fuck... |
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| 09:54.43 | davis | yeap, its comming. |
| 09:54.44 | liable | BuNnYy: well chat elswhere this isnt a bulgarian chat room. |
| 09:54.46 | RichiH | thanks |
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| 09:54.51 | SimonRaven | thank you |
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| 09:55.11 | mbn | hmmm |
| 09:55.13 | mbn | how do i know the network adapter is working in 100mb full duplex ? |
| 09:55.18 | some_dude | I'm happy now |
| 09:55.19 | RichiH | np |
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| 09:55.25 | nyingen | mbn: the little green lights? |
| 09:55.38 | cahoot | mbn: mii-tool might tell |
| 09:55.38 | davis | mbn, dont know. i have wondered the same thing myself. |
| 09:55.48 | gapler | is it normal for a low level format on a 40gig 100ata maxtor drive to take more then twelve hours ? |
| 09:55.49 | mbn | i bet ifconfig tell that |
| 09:55.52 | tictac | aha! |
| 09:55.55 | nyingen | mbn: or try ethtool |
| 09:55.57 | nighter_ | mii-tool? |
| 09:55.59 | davis | mbn, i dont think its listed in ifconfig or /proc fs. |
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| 09:56.08 | mbn | mii-tool ? |
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| 09:56.33 | nighter_ | its a program to check the ethernet card. |
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| 09:56.47 | some_dude | ok 200 root, 500 usr, and 500 swap, but the usr is shared |
| 09:56.51 | cahoot | mbn: it's in net-tools |
| 09:57.03 | SimonRaven | some_dude: well, could do something like 200 /, 500 /usr, and split the rest for /var and /home, or merge /var and /home. might need to reduce that if you have lame-ass x86 partition table |
| 09:57.07 | mlewis00 | gapler: Are you using the utility that the drive manufacturer provides? |
| 09:57.16 | davis | gapler: i owuld not think so. |
| 09:57.21 | SimonRaven | mbn: mii-tool |
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| 09:57.29 | mbn | yes. i have it |
| 09:57.43 | SimonRaven | some_dude: ok, so divvy it up accordingly |
| 09:57.46 | gapler | Davis : the low level format is bussy for like 13 or 14 hours already .. no errors are giving but it takes a long time :S |
| 09:57.55 | mbn | nice one ! capabilities: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD |
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| 09:58.12 | gapler | davis : what could cause this ?? |
| 09:58.33 | some_dude | SimonRaven it only runs one program over vnc, so /home is min now I've got 200 /, 500 /usr |
| 09:58.37 | SimonRaven | some_dude: might want to increase /usr, just in case |
| 09:58.42 | cahoot | gapler: no errors reported? |
| 09:58.48 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 09:58.48 | davis | gapler: maybe its not in dma mode? or it has problems. Have you checked /var/log/messages for /dev/hdx errors? |
| 09:58.53 | some_dude | since /usr is shared, that's not a problem |
| 09:59.03 | gapler | cahoot no not yet ... it`s almost donè IU think |
| 09:59.18 | gapler | davis : well I`m low leveling it with maxtor`s powermax .. |
| 09:59.25 | some_dude | I'll go 1gig /usr |
| 09:59.39 | mlewis00 | I was under the impression that you could not 'low-level format' the newer HDDs... |
| 09:59.43 | cahoot | gapler: just that I have 3 of those on my desk - crashed :) |
| 09:59.43 | liable | gapler: so why ask us? |
| 09:59.48 | some_dude | SimonRaven you ever use xen, it's very fast |
| 09:59.56 | SimonRaven | no |
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| 10:00.10 | davis | hmm. i've never done that before. i simply do fdisk and mke2fs. |
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| 10:00.45 | tictac | liable: the reason the files were never generated, ssh is just a reference package (points to openssh-server and openssh-client) |
| 10:00.49 | gapler | well I started using it in debian but was SLOW .. toolf 30 minutes to make ext3 .. and like 10 to copy 79mb on it from it`s fellow 40gig next to him |
| 10:00.57 | gapler | so I figured something was wrong |
| 10:01.06 | gapler | and guessed maybe a low level format would work |
| 10:01.19 | gapler | strange thing is .. the hdd gives absolutly no error |
| 10:01.25 | gapler | but is just sooooooo slow |
| 10:01.31 | SimonRaven | nothing in dmesg or syslog? |
| 10:01.31 | davis | when you did a mk2fs, did you see any errors in /var/log/messages? |
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| 10:01.41 | gapler | davis no |
| 10:01.47 | davis | gapler: something like missing or slow interrupt? |
| 10:01.49 | gapler | SimonRaven also nothing |
| 10:01.53 | gapler | nope |
| 10:01.55 | gapler | checked that |
| 10:01.58 | SimonRaven | O_O |
| 10:02.04 | gapler | had bad hdd`s before but they all error`d |
| 10:02.07 | gapler | thisone not |
| 10:02.11 | ryan | do i change the modes entry under /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, putting the resolution i wish x to use first in the list? |
| 10:02.14 | davis | hmm. have you tried running smarttools? |
| 10:02.17 | tictac | liable: oh, and purge does remove all config files, however since ssh was a 'reference' it had none. |
| 10:02.26 | gapler | davis whats smarttools ? |
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| 10:02.50 | SimonRaven | tictac: called a meta-package, or transitional package, depending on the use |
| 10:02.57 | mlewis00 | smartmontools |
| 10:03.04 | SimonRaven | this case it's the latter |
| 10:03.08 | davis | the hd manufacturers have a standard api for thier disks for doing reliability. |
| 10:03.26 | davis | mlewis00: thanks for the correction. |
| 10:03.37 | some_dude | what package is debootstrap in ? |
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| 10:03.47 | cahoot | ryan: don't edit the file by hand before reading the info at the top of it |
| 10:03.47 | mlewis00 | davis: :) |
| 10:03.49 | davis | the smartmontools read the error counters from the disk and print them. |
| 10:03.51 | SimonRaven | debootstrap... |
| 10:03.53 | gapler | apt-getting it now.. |
| 10:04.13 | davis | if you see the error count go up for a particular drive, you can anticipate its going bad. |
| 10:04.37 | davis | i have seen the count go up on a failing drive as it got warmer. |
| 10:04.58 | gapler | well I have to wait first for my other pc to finish formatting ... then I can put the hdd back in to the debian sys |
| 10:05.04 | ryan | cahoot, would i be better off just selecting one resolution when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 10:05.06 | davis | there are tons of uses for the tools, but that is all I know how to use them. maybe somebody else can tell you more. |
| 10:05.27 | davis | gapler: so you are using the maxtor tools in a windows box? |
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| 10:05.30 | gapler | where can I see the error log os smartmontools ? |
| 10:05.31 | cahoot | ryan: yes - unless you plan to use other reolutions |
| 10:05.39 | ryan | cahoot, at the moment i have selected all supported resolutions while running that command. |
| 10:05.45 | davis | gapler: it goes in /var/log/syslog i think. |
| 10:06.01 | dimir | Morning. |
| 10:06.05 | davis | morning |
| 10:06.16 | ryan | cahoot, i was just concerend that maybe other programs would need to change resolution, though i don't specifically use any programs that would? |
| 10:06.17 | cahoot | ryan: you can always redo the config if you wish |
| 10:06.19 | liable | !seen jethro |
| 10:06.19 | dpkg | jethro is currently on #debian-bots (1d 23h 12m 37s). Has said a total of 13458 messages. Is idling for 19d 11h 46m 27s |
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| 10:06.52 | cahoot | ryan: that concern is unwarranted |
| 10:06.59 | ryan | cahoot, so is it more adviseable to only select one resolution when running the dpkg-reconfigure command? |
| 10:07.08 | gapler | davis the hdd makes a rather loud noise too |
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| 10:07.27 | davis | gapler: dude, its going bad on you. |
| 10:07.33 | gapler | davis hehe |
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| 10:07.38 | davis | gapler: is it getting very hot? |
| 10:07.41 | cahoot | ryan: IMO yes (at least if you know what you want) |
| 10:07.42 | xerophyte | I need CMS, should i pick plone or drupal ?? |
| 10:07.51 | gapler | davis : no no .. not getting hot .. no errors |
| 10:07.52 | ryan | cheers cahoot |
| 10:08.02 | gapler | davis just a loud noise and sloooow |
| 10:08.06 | davis | hmm. |
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| 10:08.22 | gapler | the diskspin is making a loud noise |
| 10:08.28 | davis | is it a laptop drive or a regular ide drive? |
| 10:08.29 | cahoot | gapler: it *is* a maxtor after all |
| 10:08.34 | davis | lol |
| 10:08.34 | gapler | davis regular |
| 10:08.42 | gapler | cahoot maxtor = BAAD ? |
| 10:08.49 | liable | soak it in inox :) |
| 10:08.56 | cahoot | gapler: just that I have 3 of those on my desk - crashed :) |
| 10:09.08 | gapler | cahoot hehe well with this one my count is at 2 ;) |
| 10:09.22 | gapler | got a wd of 40 gig too .. it runs way faster |
| 10:09.24 | davis | i've done rescue operations in my garage with a laptop and a usb/2.5inch ide drive sled, when it was cold outside. |
| 10:09.32 | gapler | and it doens`t make strange noises :P |
| 10:09.53 | gapler | davis thats something |
| 10:10.00 | davis | if possible, put the drive in a sealed plastic bag, and leave it in the freezer for 30 mins. |
| 10:10.04 | cahoot | gapler: they've been hot and shortlived in my hands |
| 10:10.17 | gapler | davis that really helps ??? |
| 10:10.25 | davis | then when its nice and cold try to run your format. See if it works faster before it heats up. |
| 10:10.50 | gapler | davis won`t it break anything by freezing ? |
| 10:10.52 | davis | gapler: yes, when they get hot, the electrical timing changes. if a part is going bad, it will cause retries. |
| 10:11.03 | davis | gapler: not unless you get moisture in it. |
| 10:11.27 | gapler | davis should I cool the hdd of before deepfreezing it ? |
| 10:11.40 | gapler | davis it has just been in a low level format for 14 hours |
| 10:11.44 | davis | let it get room temperature, yes. |
| 10:12.16 | gapler | davis someone told me that it`s better for a hdd to run 24/7 then to turn it off twice a day .. is tht true ? |
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| 10:12.54 | davis | maybe. when it is running 24/7, it does not have any cooling/warming effects. |
| 10:13.08 | davis | it heats up and stays at constant temp. |
| 10:13.56 | gapler | hmm ok |
| 10:13.59 | davis | when it cools down, the solder joints become stressed. a component my cool down at a different rate than the solder connecting it to the pad. |
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| 10:14.28 | gapler | hmm |
| 10:14.34 | cromd | greetings all, could anyone suggest a suitable package for listening to .ram "realplayer" audio on demand files? |
| 10:14.54 | davis | cromd there is a free real player for linux. |
| 10:14.58 | gapler | hmm and the seller told me the loud noises were because it`s a server hdd .. guess he had me fooled there :P |
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| 10:15.09 | davis | hmm. |
| 10:15.18 | cromd | yes davis, but it installs itself, like it's a bin file, is that safe with sarge? |
| 10:15.27 | davis | cromd: i think it is called helix. not sure. |
| 10:15.31 | yam | I have a promise ata controller (4 ports- ide2,ide3,ide4,ide5)... and have a software raid running on it... is it normal to see on /proc/interrupts a 0 on those ? |
| 10:15.38 | jm_ | cromd: more or less, just put it in /usr/local somewhere |
| 10:15.39 | cromd | thanks davis, i'll check it out |
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| 10:15.46 | davis | yer welcome. |
| 10:15.48 | cromd | you used that jm_? |
| 10:15.58 | gapler | hmm is it possible to perform software raid0 ?? |
| 10:16.06 | jm_ | cromd: I have it installed yes, version 10 |
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| 10:16.16 | some_dude | can i set the colors of xterm ? |
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| 10:16.20 | cromd | debian was left unscathed jm_? |
| 10:16.32 | jm_ | cromd: ahh Marillat's repository has a package |
| 10:16.35 | davis | jm_ are you using the once called helix? |
| 10:16.54 | jm_ | cromd: yes, because it lives in /usr/local/realplay/ |
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| 10:17.07 | jm_ | davis: nope, RealPlayer 10 downloaded from their web page |
| 10:17.16 | cromd | allright then jm_, i'll take a look at that also, thanks for your advice :) |
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| 10:17.18 | jm_ | I should just switch to Marillat's package |
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| 10:17.20 | davis | jm_: ok. cool. |
| 10:17.25 | PerfDave | Real Player and Helix Player are based on the same GPL code, but AFAIK Helix Player doesn't have the propriatery RealAudio codec. |
| 10:18.03 | jm_ | mplayer should also be able to play them |
| 10:18.06 | davis | yeah that is why i was asking. their was some problem i remember with one of the versions. |
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| 10:21.09 | davis | so let me ask my question again. I have been using my debian client to connect to a debian server using ssh -X and running a app with an exported display to my local debian client box. Everything worked fine when i did it that way. Now, I am trying to use vncserver/vnclient to do the same thing with a windows client. when I do that, I can use my up arrow key in bash to repeat command in an xterm, but I can not use the up arrow in this one app to repeat comm |
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| 10:22.10 | davis | btw, the reason i am using vnc insteade of cygwin/X on my windows box, is that this particular app runs very slowly in a remote cygwin setup. |
| 10:22.28 | jm_ | what app is it? |
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| 10:22.38 | davis | riscwatch |
| 10:22.50 | davis | its a jtag debugger for powerpc. |
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| 10:23.18 | xelam | Moof :o |
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| 10:23.45 | davis | wonders what a wompom is. |
| 10:24.03 | Moof | xelam: LTNS |
| 10:24.09 | xelam | hi, yes. |
| 10:24.12 | PerfDave | davis: Have you tried using vncserver/vncclient from the debian client, to narrow it down? |
| 10:24.14 | Moof | davis: there si nothign that a wompom cannot do |
| 10:24.34 | davis | PerfDave: no. that would be a good experiment. thanks. |
| 10:25.01 | jm_ | use xev to find out what it gets if it's an X11 app |
| 10:25.13 | nyingen | Moof: wampom, like the Iroquois currency? |
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| 10:26.18 | Moof | nyingen: nope |
| 10:26.21 | Moof | http://www.nyanko.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fas/bestiary_wompom.html |
| 10:26.24 | davis | google showed a uk website for wompom. |
| 10:26.29 | davis | yeap that is the one. |
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| 10:27.03 | nyingen | Moof: heh, nm |
| 10:27.08 | technos | thought they had switched to us dollars |
| 10:27.16 | nyingen | it was algonquin anyway IIRC |
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| 10:27.52 | Luftzig | how do I set system wide program defaults?things like default browser, default media players and such? |
| 10:27.58 | cromd | must away good peoples, thank you for your advice |
| 10:28.01 | cromd | fare thee well |
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| 10:31.29 | liable | Luftzig: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 10:31.50 | amsj_ | Luftzig, update-alternatives |
| 10:31.58 | Luftzig | thanks you all |
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| 10:33.23 | Moof | why do I keep gettign errors like these: http://pastebin.com/414598 |
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| 10:34.34 | liable | !tell Moof about apt secure |
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| 10:35.53 | ircdevil | convert figure6.png jpg:figure6.jpg -> hmmmm - the resulting jpg is much smaller than the jpg 1/15. why? |
| 10:35.56 | xelam | !tell xelam about apt secure |
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| 10:36.30 | tictac | bah. motd doesnt use the same escape sequences as issue |
| 10:36.43 | liable | !tell xelam about /msg the bot |
| 10:37.03 | xelam | fine. |
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| 10:38.32 | gapler | hmm llf is done now ... if I do hdparm -t /dev/hdf now .. it says mh 100ata 5400mb hdd does 3,15mb/s :S |
| 10:39.14 | gapler | *5400rpm |
| 10:39.28 | gapler | /dev/hdf: |
| 10:39.28 | gapler | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.28 | gapler | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.32 | gapler | thats bad :( |
| 10:39.44 | technos | hmm |
| 10:39.49 | bob2 | hdparm is not a very good benchmark |
| 10:39.53 | bob2 | but that is poor |
| 10:39.58 | Shadur | ... oh, yeah. I have a server that's over fifteen years old that'll do better than that. |
| 10:40.00 | bob2 | do you have dma enabled? |
| 10:40.02 | gapler | yea even for a bad benchmark its poor |
| 10:40.09 | gapler | bob2 yea udma5 |
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| 10:40.26 | bob2 | gapler: sudo hdparm -c3 /dev/hdf, try again |
| 10:40.30 | gapler | Shadur the 850mb conner hd does even 4mbs :( |
| 10:40.50 | gapler | hmm sudo not fount .. lemme apt it |
| 10:41.06 | bob2 | or just hdparm as root |
| 10:41.09 | liable | gapler: just run it as root. |
| 10:41.47 | Shadur | How's bonnie++ for a benchmark? |
| 10:41.58 | gapler | liable without sudo ? |
| 10:42.09 | liable | gapler: yes |
| 10:42.19 | gapler | dev/hdf: |
| 10:42.19 | gapler | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.19 | gapler | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.46 | gapler | now it does 2,16mb/s |
| 10:43.07 | ryushe | Hi there, been looking around on the debian bugtracker, anyone know if there is a temporary fix yet for bug #334920: "Bug in courier-imap-ssl: etc etc" on testing yet? |
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| 10:43.18 | Roch | hi |
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| 10:44.09 | bob2 | gapler: anything in dmesg? |
| 10:44.13 | Roch | so I have a new printer and I would like to use it, with cups. I've done "apt-get install cupsys". what's the next step ? the command lpr doesn't seem to be related to cups |
| 10:44.36 | bob2 | Roch: htp://localhsot:631/ |
| 10:44.44 | gapler | hdf: max request size: 128KiB |
| 10:44.44 | gapler | hdf: 78198750 sectors (40037 MB) w/2000KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) |
| 10:44.44 | gapler | hdf: cache flushes supported |
| 10:44.44 | gapler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:44.50 | gapler | upz |
| 10:44.56 | gapler | where can I paste this |
| 10:45.18 | gapler | hdf: max request size: 128KiB |
| 10:45.18 | gapler | hdf: 78198750 sectors (40037 MB) w/2000KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) |
| 10:45.19 | xtf | Hi. Why does mysql-dfsg-4.1 and 5.0 depend on a new version of gcc-4.0? http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0.html |
| 10:45.24 | Roch | bob2, thanks |
| 10:45.26 | gapler | hdf: cache flushes supported |
| 10:45.26 | gapler | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.28 | gapler | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.33 | bob2 | Roch: hm? it tells you how to workaround it |
| 10:45.44 | gapler | euhm unkown partition is correct.. cuz no partitions are on it yet |
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| 10:46.07 | bob2 | xtf: it depends on libgcc1 |
| 10:46.12 | bob2 | (presumably) |
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| 10:46.47 | xtf | bob2: But why on the new version and not on the current version in testing? |
| 10:47.20 | bob2 | xtf: because packages in sid are built against other packages in sid |
| 10:47.36 | bob2 | xtf: and it (potentially) uses a symbol that is in the sid libgcc1 but not the sarge one |
| 10:48.00 | Roch | bob2, so now I've added the printer to cups, via http as you mentioned. but how do I actually print something? |
| 10:48.33 | bob2 | Roch: lpr and lp should both work on ps files now |
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| 10:48.54 | Subvertir | bob2, are you familiar with samba configuration? |
| 10:49.08 | bob2 | not for complicated setups |
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| 10:49.23 | liable | Roch: can you print a test page? |
| 10:49.29 | Roch | bob2, ok, thanks. actually they don't but I'll investigate that. |
| 10:49.36 | xtf | xtf: So every time libgcc1 migration to testing is delayed all packages that depend on it are also delayed? |
| 10:49.42 | bob2 | Roch: try a test page |
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| 10:49.47 | bob2 | xtf: yes |
| 10:49.56 | bob2 | xtf: but they don't always depend on one newer than in etch |
| 10:50.06 | Roch | liable, no |
| 10:50.07 | Subvertir | http://pastebin.com/413309 this is my samba.conf, I'm trying to share the MFC420CN printer and my home directory with 192.168.0.2 |
| 10:50.08 | xtf | bob2: Even if they could build and run fine with the one in testing? |
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| 10:50.29 | bob2 | xtf: sure. being API compatible doesn't help the binaries run on etch, tho |
| 10:50.39 | Subvertir | and having a helluva time getting it to work - explorer crashes when I try to print a test page |
| 10:50.44 | netcatc | howdy all |
| 10:50.45 | liable | Roch: then look in the cups log for errors. |
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| 10:51.37 | bob2 | xtf: if you rebuilt things against etch, they will almost certainly work |
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| 10:52.04 | netcatc | can anyone help me with mouse, I intalled hotplug but did not work. |
| 10:52.16 | bob2 | hotplug only helps with usb mice |
| 10:52.36 | netcatc | bob2: my ps/2 |
| 10:52.54 | bob2 | then hotplug is unrelated, I'd think |
| 10:52.56 | Roch | liable, it complains about not having ESP ghotscript installed... I have GPL ghostscript, argh. |
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| 10:53.21 | netcatc | bob2: I start gpm , and apper erro |
| 10:53.33 | bob2 | netcatc: ignore gpm then |
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| 10:53.47 | bob2 | netcatc: 'cat /dev/psaux' and wiggle the mouse; does stuff get printed? |
| 10:53.57 | netcatc | bob2:a sec |
| 10:54.01 | jm_ | maybe use /dev/input/mice for 2.6 kernel |
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| 10:54.40 | netcatc | bob2: no |
| 10:54.52 | bob2 | oh yeah |
| 10:54.53 | SeicherlB | can anybody help me with my apache2? at #apache nobody can help me |
| 10:55.06 | bob2 | not unless you ask a question about this |
| 10:55.13 | Frosted | o_O |
| 10:55.20 | SeicherlB | *g* there are a couple of problems: the one ist, that i can't access the root-directory (www) with the ip. it will always redirect to apache2-default |
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| 10:55.37 | SeicherlB | In my browser, typing "http://192.168.0.10/" will redirect to "apache2-default" while typing "http://servername/" shows my index.php - WHY?! |
| 10:55.40 | bob2 | are you using Debian? |
| 10:55.43 | SeicherlB | yep |
| 10:55.49 | SeicherlB | thats why i'm here |
| 10:55.57 | Frosted | SeicherlB: egrep -r apache2-default /etc/apache2 |
| 10:56.00 | Frosted | :p |
| 10:56.31 | Ronin | SeicherlB: because we get ubuntu etc users in here wanting us to fix thier problems as well :) |
| 10:56.33 | bob2 | Subvertir: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 10:56.38 | netcatc | bob2: I get start my interface but the mouse do not work.. |
| 10:56.40 | bob2 | Subvertir: comment out the RedirectMatch |
| 10:57.00 | SeicherlB | ok, one after the other, plz |
| 10:57.02 | liable | missfire :) |
| 10:57.03 | Frosted | Ronin: And we can't have that. |
| 10:57.17 | bob2 | er |
| 10:57.19 | Ronin | Frosted: well seeing as its not debian no we shouldnt |
| 10:57.22 | Frosted | :P |
| 10:57.23 | bob2 | SeicherlB: what I said to Subvertir |
| 10:57.30 | Subvertir | hi |
| 10:57.46 | Ronin | ok who hid my coffee |
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| 10:57.54 | SeicherlB | comment out where? |
| 10:58.18 | bob2 | SeicherlB: uh, look at the file and see if it's mentioend |
| 10:58.26 | technos | coffee ? where ? |
| 10:58.31 | Subvertir | so instead of getting samba to work I'm going to smoke a huge joint |
| 10:58.38 | bob2 | good plan |
| 10:58.39 | Subvertir | IT workers > * |
| 10:58.41 | liable | hah |
| 10:58.53 | bob2 | stock up on chocolate bars first |
| 10:59.04 | liable | pizza! |
| 10:59.04 | Subvertir | you think this is my first rodeo?! |
| 10:59.08 | technos | gimme some! |
| 10:59.11 | bob2 | haha |
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| 11:01.12 | SeicherlB | there we go again |
| 11:01.26 | SeicherlB | ok, second problem |
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| 11:02.18 | SeicherlB | when i access via ip-adress it wont handle my php-files correct. the browser will try to download it. accessing with the servername works fine |
| 11:02.35 | technos | I've been waiting three hours for coffee |
| 11:02.41 | SeicherlB | actually some php-files work, some not |
| 11:02.44 | bob2 | SeicherlB: apache2? |
| 11:02.49 | SeicherlB | yep |
| 11:03.01 | bob2 | and you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed? |
| 11:03.04 | bob2 | some work? |
| 11:03.06 | SeicherlB | yep |
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| 11:03.08 | bob2 | your config is messed up then |
| 11:03.10 | SeicherlB | some do |
| 11:03.19 | Subvertir | Debian GNU/Solaris? |
| 11:03.21 | Subvertir | Niiiice. |
| 11:03.28 | SeicherlB | LOL... but why and where??!??! |
| 11:03.31 | bob2 | haha |
| 11:03.38 | Subvertir | http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/11/02/0418234.shtml?tid=90&tid=106 |
| 11:03.44 | Subvertir | the authoritative source |
| 11:03.45 | Subvertir | =D |
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| 11:03.56 | liable | meh |
| 11:04.02 | ger | any suggestions how I can try to talk to a modem other than minicom? Not sure if I screwed up h/w config, or s/w config. Nothing is displayed after an AT command, no OK, ERROR, or value. |
| 11:04.07 | bob2 | some opensolaris guy sent a very marketroidy email to debian-deven pimping it |
| 11:04.31 | Subvertir | Initial trials are limited to "Ubuntu developers and the entire Debian community". == Initial trials are limited to "Anyone who can get the damned thing to run". |
| 11:04.45 | bob2 | hah |
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| 11:04.45 | EmleyMoor | Is there a command to list all the files installed by a given package or am I better looking that up on the web? |
| 11:04.52 | bob2 | EmleyMoor: dpkg -L blah |
| 11:04.58 | bob2 | EmleyMoor: or cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/blah.list |
| 11:05.13 | PerfDave | Debian GNU/OpenSolaris is even more pointless than OpenSolaris ;) |
| 11:05.40 | SeicherlB | @bob2: any suggestions that might help me with my php-problem? |
| 11:05.42 | Subvertir | I want to see Debian Cygwin |
| 11:05.53 | EmleyMoor | Thanks bob2 - that will help me no end |
| 11:06.04 | PerfDave | Subvertir: It exists, but doesn't have many developers. |
| 11:06.05 | azeem | PerfDave: somebody said Sun did not open source their package management along with Solaris, so it might make sense for some people. dunno |
| 11:06.13 | Subvertir | that's pretty neat |
| 11:06.37 | PerfDave | azeem: I'm not sure that touching Solaris in any form with a bargepole makes sense for anyone ;) |
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| 11:06.44 | EmleyMoor | Before I do a local compile, is there a sarge backport of wpasupplicant 0.4.x that can be installed without too many foreign dependencies? |
| 11:07.14 | netcatc | do anyone know one program in shell or console to mp3 |
| 11:07.19 | azeem | PerfDave: the kernel? |
| 11:07.23 | liable | EmleyMoor: wpasupplicant works fine in sarge |
| 11:07.31 | azeem | PerfDave: people hack on worse I guess |
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| 11:07.35 | EmleyMoor | liable: It does but it's 0.3 |
| 11:07.41 | PerfDave | azeem: Yeah, there's Ubuntu devs ;) |
| 11:07.51 | liable | EmleyMoor: you need the newer version? |
| 11:07.52 | EmleyMoor | netcatc: To do what to them? |
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| 11:08.06 | EmleyMoor | liable: I need to try the newer version |
| 11:08.13 | PerfDave | ger: I found ckermit to be much more friendly than minicom |
| 11:08.14 | liable | why? |
| 11:08.14 | bob2 | SeicherlB: what have you changed in the apache config? |
| 11:08.16 | enerv | which command shows me a used binario was compiled and libs? |
| 11:08.21 | Subvertir | Debian Cygwin and a native KDE4 port could really bring some life to win2k =D |
| 11:08.28 | EmleyMoor | It hasn't worked since I installed kernel 2.6.14 |
| 11:08.34 | bob2 | enerv: none |
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| 11:08.39 | EmleyMoor | It does work under 13.4 |
| 11:08.44 | netcatc | EmleyMoor: mp3 works in my console |
| 11:08.47 | liable | EmleyMoor: ah, madwifi by chance? |
| 11:08.56 | EmleyMoor | liable: ipw2100 |
| 11:08.58 | bob2 | EmleyMoor: assuming you mean "which command shows what gcc flags a binary was built with?" |
| 11:09.10 | SeicherlB | erm... just the redirection you mentioned before and the processing-stuff for php-applications |
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| 11:09.25 | liable | EmleyMoor: why are you running that kernel on sarge anyways? |
| 11:09.25 | EmleyMoor | netcatc: To play them or create them from other files? |
| 11:09.50 | PerfDave | enerv: ldd will tell you which libraries an application needs to link to at runtime. Some applications will have command-line parameters which will show you compile options, but there's nothing generic. |
| 11:09.58 | netcatc | just listen mp3, man |
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| 11:10.03 | enerv | bob2, i need see, if my gcc-uClibc is working... and i create "Helloworld.c" |
| 11:10.07 | EmleyMoor | netcatc: mpg321 |
| 11:10.11 | smard | is a serial port a 15-pin D connector? |
| 11:10.22 | BusMaster | smard, no |
| 11:10.22 | EmleyMoor | smard: No. 9 or 25. |
| 11:10.24 | bob2 | enerv: there's no such thing |
| 11:10.25 | netcatc | EmleyMoor: I'm gonna see man |
| 11:10.31 | bob2 | enerv: ldd will show what libs it links against, tho |
| 11:10.37 | EmleyMoor | netcatc: About dog? |
| 11:10.58 | SeicherlB | i only uncommented the lines "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 11:11.13 | bob2 | SeicherlB: is the php module loaded? |
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| 11:11.39 | SeicherlB | yep |
| 11:12.02 | SeicherlB | i telneted my apache yesterday the server showed something with php-enabled. |
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| 11:12.10 | SeicherlB | and i can access some php-files |
| 11:12.40 | ger | PerfDave: thanks. Haven't used kermit for ages. I'll have another go. Any ideas what I might have done to stop the reporting of results to the screen? I was trying to discover if my not-quite-100% identified modem supported +H. Haven't seen any results since. Can see all the commands I type. Nothing else. |
| 11:13.22 | smard | so whats my 15 pin connector at the back of my laptop? oh, sorry, its for the video/out for a monitor |
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| 11:13.33 | jm_ | d-sub 15 is VGA |
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| 11:13.49 | sep | SeicherlB, can it be that the ones that work start wityh <?php and the ones that don't only start with <? |
| 11:14.00 | EmleyMoor | D-sub 15 is a 15-pin 3-row in an otherwise 9-pin size |
| 11:14.05 | Subvertir | sep, I've ran into that |
| 11:14.09 | PerfDave | ger: Not sure, it's been ages since I did anythign with serial connections. |
| 11:14.32 | smard | I got a question about onboard/integrated modems. basically they're all winmodems hey? |
| 11:14.32 | SeicherlB | hmm... nope, cause all my files start with <?php |
| 11:14.54 | sep | smard, depends entierly on the chipset used |
| 11:15.09 | trc | sorry, but i have to laugh at this: man shit <enter> No manual entry for shit. He he, you have to push it in with machinery |
| 11:15.23 | smard | i'm trying to find the chipset on the product website specs, if it doesn't say can I safely assume it is a winmodem? |
| 11:15.38 | Subvertir | smard lspci -vv |
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| 11:15.54 | smard | i'm not on the computer, i'm browsing |
| 11:16.05 | Subvertir | several major winmodem manufacturers have linux drivers now |
| 11:16.19 | smard | has anyone got the ltmdm driver to work? |
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| 11:17.24 | ger | PerfDave: ya, me too. Hope I have better luck with kermit. I'd like to discover I messed up minicom's config, and not some hardware register. thanks |
| 11:18.28 | technos | hate this keyboard. |
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| 11:18.40 | nomed | hi all |
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| 11:18.54 | liable | nite |
| 11:18.57 | nomed | where can i find more infos about new udev in etch? |
| 11:19.03 | Tortel | !udev |
| 11:19.04 | dpkg | udev is probably at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
| 11:19.10 | netcatc | EmleyMoor: play mp3 the mpg123 |
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| 11:19.39 | liable | eww look at the supposedly resolved bugs for a start.. |
| 11:19.42 | trc | having a problem with emacs after moving to sid: says Undefined color: "black" and refuses to start |
| 11:19.51 | Tortel | !emacs |
| 11:19.51 | dpkg | emacs is the extensible macro editor that is already quite extensively extended. A popular editor choice with major and minor modes for almost every conceivable language and task. High priests of emacs have even been known to use emacs as their shell, and sometimes have whole systems with init=/usr/bin/emacs. [Escape Meta Alt Control Shift] |
| 11:19.58 | nomed | Tortel, new udev in etch |
| 11:20.01 | trc | hey akusarujin, whats up? |
| 11:20.05 | netcatc | !hotplug |
| 11:20.05 | dpkg | methinks hotplug is a auto detect that are pluged into a running system (USB / IDE) http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/ , or see discover |
| 11:20.06 | nomed | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 11:20.06 | nomed | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:20.12 | Tortel | nomed, that was me best guesss :P |
| 11:20.17 | Tortel | i have no idea |
| 11:21.19 | trc | i eliminated all entries customizin black foreground from .emacs, no difference |
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| 11:22.00 | HPS`Fresh | how can i test disk writing speed? |
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| 11:22.32 | technos | hdparm |
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| 11:22.49 | Thanatermesis | why exist this lot of packages removed from testing ? i can't posible to install the 20 % of my selection of packages... :S |
| 11:22.50 | smard | how do i find out what sort of winmodem i have? all it says in windows is that its a generic 56k |
| 11:23.52 | EmleyMoor | smard: Is it an on-board or a card? |
| 11:23.58 | HPS`Fresh | technos no. this thig can test only reading by using -t/-T flags |
| 11:24.25 | BartVB | testing hd speed with bonnie++ or tiobench |
| 11:24.31 | BartVB | hdparm is hardly accurate |
| 11:24.41 | bob2 | HPS`Fresh: bonnie++ |
| 11:24.54 | bob2 | Thanatermesis: sometimes things have to be removed to let other packages come in |
| 11:25.06 | bob2 | e.g. lyx is gone, but will be back soon |
| 11:25.25 | smard | EmleyMoor onboard |
| 11:25.40 | HPS`Fresh | bob2 thnx |
| 11:25.58 | technos | hmm. try time and dd? then just do the math? |
| 11:25.59 | EmleyMoor | OK - what chipset is on your board? |
| 11:26.05 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... hard, but i look day to day, more packages removed.. this needs to be up and better for the next times ? bob2 |
| 11:26.06 | SeicherlB | @bob2: it was a browser-problem, not a screwd server |
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| 11:26.30 | smard | EmleyMoor I don't know, its a laptop and looking at the manufacturers website it doesn't really say |
| 11:26.40 | smard | just says integrated 56k modem |
| 11:26.53 | bob2 | Thanatermesis: I don't understand the second bit of your question |
| 11:26.54 | EmleyMoor | What is the make of the laptop? |
| 11:27.55 | Thanatermesis | bob2 sorry for my english... i have look the same effect 3 months before... but only a 5 % of my packages, now, a 20 %, then... this are re-included in the future ? or totally deleted ? |
| 11:28.02 | smard | EmleyMoor compaq presario |
| 11:28.12 | EmleyMoor | smard: Do you have sound working? |
| 11:28.27 | smard | EmleyMoor yes |
| 11:28.35 | EmleyMoor | Which sound driver does it use? |
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| 11:29.47 | soos | Hiii |
| 11:29.47 | SeicherlB | can anybody recommend a good tutorial on using debian as gateway/router/firewall? |
| 11:30.00 | soos | can anyone help me please > |
| 11:30.10 | netcatc | can anyone help me my mouse ps/2? |
| 11:30.26 | netcatc | how can I config it? |
| 11:30.31 | bob2 | Thanatermesis: they will come back soon |
| 11:30.39 | shad0wcat | you have to configure a ps/2 mouse? |
| 11:30.41 | bob2 | SeicherlB: install shorewall and configure it |
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| 11:30.48 | bob2 | soos: not unles you ak a question |
| 11:30.57 | netcatc | shad0wcat: yes |
| 11:31.00 | soos | thanks |
| 11:31.07 | shad0wcat | netcatc: no you don't |
| 11:31.12 | shad0wcat | plug it in and it works |
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| 11:31.37 | netcatc | shad0wcat: I think so |
| 11:31.43 | soos | i have windows server and i want to change it to debian which version i must to install |
| 11:31.59 | shad0wcat | soos: uhh it isn't that simple |
| 11:32.03 | shad0wcat | do you even know how to use linux? |
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| 11:32.29 | soos | Does it has GUI |
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| 11:33.05 | shad0wcat | ok so you don't know how to use Linux |
| 11:33.09 | shad0wcat | stick with Windows |
| 11:33.18 | shad0wcat | it'll save you AND us a lot of trouble, hair, and brain cells |
| 11:33.26 | Thanatermesis | bob2 its a "statistics" with the devel of the developement ? in another words... less time remain for etch -> stable, more stabilized ? |
| 11:33.35 | PerfDave | soos: http://www.debian.org/ should answer most of your questions :) |
| 11:33.38 | saloxin | soos: start with a non-important machine - replacing a server can be a bit tricky |
| 11:33.42 | netcatc | shad0wcat: my error, /dev/input/mice no such device |
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| 11:33.55 | shad0wcat | PerfDave: $10 says he won't be able to transition to debian |
| 11:34.11 | bob2 | Thanatermesis: I don't think I get what you mean, sorry |
| 11:34.14 | shad0wcat | netcatc: and what kernel version/version of debian are you running exactly? |
| 11:34.17 | PerfDave | shad0wcat: $10 says he should give it a go on a spare machine :) |
| 11:34.33 | shad0wcat | PerfDave: and $50 says he should do some heavy duty RTFM before he does |
| 11:34.37 | lord_rob | Hi ! When I su to root, error messages are not displayed correctly (???? are shown instead of text). For example "echo < 2" shows "bash: 2 ????? ????" instead of "bash: 2 no such file or directory". How do I fix this problem in sid ? |
| 11:34.42 | netcatc | shad0wcat: 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 11:34.49 | Thanatermesis | hehe, ok bob2 , its ok |
| 11:34.55 | shad0wcat | hmmm.... |
| 11:35.00 | shad0wcat | that's the sarge default install kernel |
| 11:35.09 | netcatc | shad0wcat: no man |
| 11:35.16 | netcatc | shad0wcat: 2.6 |
| 11:35.16 | shad0wcat | netcatc: you're gonna have to create the dev file |
| 11:35.22 | PerfDave | shad0wcat: That's why I sent him to debian.org ;) |
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| 11:35.29 | netcatc | shad0wcat: no problem |
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| 11:35.37 | bob2 | Thanatermesis: they were removed so development could happen more quickly, yes |
| 11:35.38 | netcatc | shad0wcat: I create it |
| 11:35.40 | bob2 | if that's what you meant |
| 11:35.56 | shad0wcat | netcatc: we don't support custom kernels in here |
| 11:35.59 | shad0wcat | if you compiled your own kernel |
| 11:36.00 | SeicherlB | @bob2: well, that config-file is rather empty... where can i set up the firewall-stuff? |
| 11:36.03 | shad0wcat | you have to fix it |
| 11:36.13 | bob2 | SeicherlB: what confg file? |
| 11:36.26 | netcatc | shad0wcat: no problem, I search in other place.. |
| 11:36.30 | bob2 | netcatc: did you compile your kernel? |
| 11:36.32 | SeicherlB | bob: /etc/default/shorewall |
| 11:36.45 | SeicherlB | what he told me to configure after installation |
| 11:36.50 | shad0wcat | bob2: that version line looks like something a debian maintainer would do |
| 11:36.54 | netcatc | bob2: yes, fot suport nvidia |
| 11:36.59 | netcatc | **for |
| 11:37.03 | shad0wcat | but then again I follow that convention myself so I don't know |
| 11:37.03 | shad0wcat | ffs |
| 11:37.10 | shad0wcat | you don't compile a kernel for nvidia support |
| 11:37.11 | shad0wcat | you can't |
| 11:37.20 | shad0wcat | nvidia modules are built outside the kernel |
| 11:37.22 | shad0wcat | not inside it |
| 11:37.48 | netcatc | shad0wcat: no problem, I had compile my kernel man |
| 11:37.53 | bob2 | netcatc: you don't need a new kernel to use nvidia |
| 11:38.04 | nomed | well .. it seems today i discovered a new "era" is starting for Linux :P |
| 11:38.04 | SeicherlB | @bob2: oh, my mistake... |
| 11:38.06 | bob2 | SeicherlB: copy the sample files from /usr/share/doc/shorewall to /etc/shorewall |
| 11:38.14 | nomed | udev Provides hotplug |
| 11:38.28 | lewis | I have an 2.4.31 SMP kernel, but only 1 CPU is starting on boot, even though it sees 2 CPUs. I didn't have this problem with my old 2.4.20 kernel, and yes, CONFIG_SMP=y in the new kernel. Any ideas? |
| 11:38.29 | shad0wcat | nomed: and it's one hell of a buggy implementation too |
| 11:38.42 | netcatc | bob2: So, my GUI is works ok |
| 11:38.44 | bob2 | "starting"? |
| 11:38.49 | nomed | is there anyone that could tell me more about this new udev included in etch |
| 11:38.51 | netcatc | bob2: but my mouse no |
| 11:39.02 | shad0wcat | nomed: hmm it hit etch already? |
| 11:39.09 | nomed | a link could be nice |
| 11:39.10 | bob2 | nomed: it replaces hotplug entirely |
| 11:39.12 | shad0wcat | that udev+hotplug package has a lot of bugs to work out |
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| 11:39.22 | netcatc | bob2: I had to configure my mouse wrong for work |
| 11:39.24 | shad0wcat | and is best used with like 2.6.15 or something like that |
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| 11:40.03 | nomed | bob2, yes i see ... now i would figure out how it's possible .. and in which way i can use it within an initrd .. |
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| 11:40.33 | bob2 | you mean initramfs? |
| 11:40.52 | nomed | yes |
| 11:41.03 | nomed | even .. and how udev can find the modules |
| 11:41.04 | shad0wcat | I don't see why you should use an initrd |
| 11:41.17 | bob2 | same way hotplug does, presumably |
| 11:41.19 | shad0wcat | unless of course it's an installation kernel |
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| 11:41.32 | chikita | hiola |
| 11:41.41 | nomed | shad0wcat, it's a livecd |
| 11:42.00 | shad0wcat | go read the package control files if everything else fails |
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| 11:45.05 | Roch | so now I can print a test page. but lpr doesn't do anything.. |
| 11:45.24 | Roch | and /etc/printcap doesn't mention anything related to cups... |
| 11:45.29 | jm_ | do you have CUPS version of lpr installed? |
| 11:45.34 | bob2 | you need cups lpr |
| 11:45.39 | Roch | ok, I'll look for it |
| 11:46.30 | SeicherlB | @bob2: using shorewall, shall i configure it for ppp0 or ppp0 and ppp1? what does that mean |
| 11:46.38 | soos | Does debian has GUI? |
| 11:46.56 | smard | soos yers |
| 11:46.59 | Roch | btw, I now have gpl-gs 8.01 and esp-gs 7.07. when I use ps2pdf from the gpl-gs 8.01 on a certain ps file I get a 1.6 MB pdf file, with ps2pdf from esp-gs 7.07 on the same ps file I get a 1.3 MB pdf file and they're visually indistinguishable... any explanation ?? |
| 11:47.01 | smard | it also has a cli |
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| 11:47.11 | bob2 | SeicherlB: uh, shorewall requires you to know a reasonable amount about networking |
| 11:47.24 | SeicherlB | *g* i should have that. |
| 11:47.27 | bob2 | SeicherlB: at leat what interface you have and what they're connected to |
| 11:47.28 | fr33think3r | where can i get the gcc 3.2.2 deb packages for debian woody? |
| 11:47.41 | bob2 | !+info gcc-3.2 woody |
| 11:47.42 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 11:47.43 | SeicherlB | but not with debian *g* |
| 11:47.48 | dpkg | Package 'gcc-3.2' does not exist. |
| 11:48.00 | SeicherlB | so, just the dsl-connection, which would be ppp0 |
| 11:48.08 | fr33think3r | oh.. |
| 11:48.14 | jm_ | woody had 3.0, didn't it? |
| 11:48.19 | bob2 | SeicherlB: right |
| 11:48.22 | fr33think3r | it has 3.04 |
| 11:48.22 | SeicherlB | thx |
| 11:48.29 | Roch | and where do I find cups lpr ? |
| 11:48.33 | bob2 | oh, right |
| 11:48.40 | bob2 | Roch: cupsys-bsd, iirc |
| 11:48.40 | jm_ | !tell roch -about search |
| 11:48.43 | fr33think3r | but i need 3.22 .. does that mean ill have to compile it manually? |
| 11:48.44 | bob2 | or maybe that's lp |
| 11:48.47 | bob2 | fr33think3r: yes |
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| 11:49.04 | Roch | ok |
| 11:49.09 | fr33think3r | sheesh .. thats a long shot |
| 11:49.13 | ledestin_ | I have connected a printer with my network card. What do I do next? How do I know which IP address the printer has/assign an IP address? |
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| 11:49.41 | encompass | is there a nice program to creat passwords that are good? |
| 11:49.42 | bob2 | fr33think3r: why do you want a specific old version of gcc on woody? |
| 11:49.46 | bob2 | encompass: pwgen |
| 11:50.06 | encompass | thanks bob2 |
| 11:50.07 | jm_ | yes, there are many password generators |
| 11:50.31 | fr33think3r | bob2: im working on a product which has a kernel compiled with 3.2.2 version. And i need to compile some additional modules for that kernel and i believe i have to compile it using the same gcc version .. ? |
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| 11:50.35 | netcatc | bob2: I got man |
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| 11:50.46 | soos | i heared Debian is very good for server is Right |
| 11:50.49 | encompass | is there one that would come with almost all distros? or is there one that comes with bash? |
| 11:51.05 | encompass | soos it is stable |
| 11:51.06 | bob2 | soos: yes... |
| 11:51.13 | encompass | that is a big plus in the server world |
| 11:51.13 | netcatc | bob2: I configured my xorg.conf in hand... |
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| 11:52.39 | fr33think3r | bob2: how do i know which distro of debian im using? |
| 11:52.48 | fr33think3r | oh yes |
| 11:52.50 | fr33think3r | im using the |
| 11:52.51 | bob2 | fr33think3r: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:52.54 | fr33think3r | 3.0r3 debian |
| 11:52.56 | fr33think3r | yes i saw that |
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| 11:53.05 | fr33think3r | 3.0r3 woody |
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| 11:53.11 | fr33think3r | and it by default comes with 2.95 |
| 11:53.29 | fr33think3r | and gcc-3.0 which is 3.04 version |
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| 11:53.57 | fr33think3r | so it there anyway i can install gcc-3.22 other than compiling it manually? |
| 11:54.02 | bob2 | 1no |
| 11:54.06 | bob2 | or apt-get.org |
| 11:54.10 | bob2 | or backports.org |
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| 11:54.21 | zedboy_ | anyone know where the Palm USB driver is in 2.6 (no longer under USB Serial it seems) |
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| 11:54.50 | soos | Can you please give to me the DOWNLOAD link of Debian with GUI (FOR SERVER) ? |
| 11:54.55 | PerfDave | fr33think3r: Why not upgrade to Sarge, use a Sarge kernel-image and the compiler that comes with it? |
| 11:55.07 | bob2 | soos: you're going to be really screwed if you try to install Debian |
| 11:55.07 | PerfDave | soos: Why do you want a GUI on a server? |
| 11:55.18 | fr33think3r | PerfDave: im working on a remote site. So all i can do is upgrade the gcc version. |
| 11:55.21 | bob2 | soos: you need to go and buy a book, or find a friend who knows how to use Debian to teach you |
| 11:55.35 | PerfDave | soos: Look, you just install Debian. If you want to run SERVICES on it, you install them, if you want to run a GUI, you install one. |
| 11:55.50 | zedboy_ | man, this channel never changes. years of helpfully telling people, "No, we're not going to help you" |
| 11:55.55 | PerfDave | soos: You want to look at http://www.debian.org/ which has both links for downloads *and* the Installation Manual which you should read cover to cover. |
| 11:55.58 | bob2 | zedboy_: oh, stop it |
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| 11:56.20 | bob2 | zedboy_: is it better to advise soos to jut install it and find he/she cannot actually ue it at all |
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| 11:56.38 | fr33think3r | PerfDave: and its going to take a long time if i have to sit and compile gcc now .. |
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| 11:57.00 | soos | the problem i work good in windows and it is very easy but i must change to linux |
| 11:57.16 | soos | put i do not where I must start |
| 11:57.27 | PerfDave | soos: What is your native language? There may be a Debian support channel which would be easier for you. |
| 11:57.27 | bob2 | soos: you're going to need a book or a friend to hel pyou |
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| 11:57.34 | PerfDave | soos: http://www.debian.org/ is where you must start. |
| 11:57.40 | bob2 | soos: or to try thing like www.linuxdoc.org for basic linux documentation |
| 11:58.13 | Bizzeh | hey, this new solaris debian os, does it use x86 solaris kernel? or is it for sun solaris box's only? |
| 11:58.20 | cappiz | what chmod is this -rwsrwxrwx ? |
| 11:58.30 | streuner | silly |
| 11:58.37 | zedboy | Bizzeh: did Sun really do it? I heard rumours. |
| 11:58.44 | Bizzeh | http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/02/0418234&from=rss |
| 11:58.46 | bob2 | cappiz: pick one channel |
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| 11:58.51 | bob2 | Bizzeh: it doesn't exist |
| 11:58.51 | cappiz | nice |
| 11:58.54 | cappiz | :) |
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| 11:59.00 | bob2 | cappiz: it means it's a huge security hole |
| 11:59.17 | bob2 | cappiz: since it's editable by random user, but runs with the priveleges of the owner |
| 11:59.36 | cappiz | ok :) |
| 11:59.44 | cappiz | im the only one at the box anyway :( |
| 11:59.51 | Bizzeh | bob2: what you mean? |
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| 12:00.18 | fr33think3r | bob2: would the modules load if i compile it using a different kernel version? the vermagic wouldn't match right? |
| 12:00.28 | bob2 | Bizzeh: solaris debian does not exist |
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| 12:00.39 | Bizzeh | is it /. bullpoo then? |
| 12:00.44 | bob2 | Bizzeh: some guy sent a terribly markety email to d-d saying he wanted people to help him do it |
| 12:00.56 | bob2 | fr33think3r: right |
| 12:00.59 | EdLin | cappiz: unfortunately, on today's internet you can't count on that. So what happens if someone gets a non-root exploit and uses that file to perform root commands? |
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| 12:02.28 | jm_ | zedboy: menuconfig target has search facility in 2.6 |
| 12:02.54 | [benovic] | how to find out wt* is blocking my port 80? XAMPP can't start and i be too stupid...and how to kill the other server permanently... |
| 12:02.54 | zedboy | jm_: yeah actually I saw that and didn't put it together. But it was really right there in the list in USB Serial, I just went right past it. |
| 12:03.16 | jm_ | [benovic]: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 12:03.36 | bob2 | [benovic]: sudo netstat -plnt | grep 80 |
| 12:03.44 | kane-xs | is it legal to have 2 different packages installed, that both Provide: the same functionality? ie, package bar1 and bar2 both Provide: bar |
| 12:03.51 | jm_ | zedboy: as in USB Serial Converter? |
| 12:04.02 | bob2 | as long as they don't Conflict |
| 12:04.11 | jm_ | kane-xs: yes, if packages are made properly |
| 12:04.29 | zedboy | jm_: yeah. |
| 12:04.34 | kane-xs | and anything depending on bar would be satisfied by bar1 or bar2, etc etc, correct? |
| 12:04.48 | K_Dallas | morning guys! adding the lines for windows partition into menul.list (grub) doesnt seem to be enough. how do i make the changes counted? thanks |
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| 12:05.17 | bob2 | K_Dallas: update-grub? |
| 12:05.20 | jm_ | it's not menul.list |
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| 12:05.31 | K_Dallas | typo, sorry |
| 12:05.37 | [benovic] | bob2, ok, it is the apache2 "288/apache2" |
| 12:05.40 | jm_ | which file did you really edit? |
| 12:05.45 | bob2 | [benovic]: yes |
| 12:05.56 | K_Dallas | bob2, done that, now rebooting |
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| 12:06.51 | K_Dallas | bob2, i have to be doing something wrong then, win partition not showing in the boot up |
| 12:07.01 | notty | hello , i have a strange problem (posible from a power failure) on a remote system, the mounted / apears like: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) and if i try to remount it rw it says mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only what can i do ? |
| 12:07.15 | EmleyMoor | Is there a way I can trace what happens when a script in /etc/init.d is run? |
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| 12:07.28 | bob2 | notty: how are you trying to remount it? |
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| 12:07.35 | bob2 | EmleyMoor: depends what you want to trace |
| 12:07.40 | jm_ | yes, most init.d scripts are shell script, shells support "debugging" |
| 12:07.42 | notty | bob2: mount / -o remount -o rw |
| 12:07.44 | bob2 | EmleyMoor: you can add "set -x" to the top of the init script to see the commands run |
| 12:07.54 | bob2 | notty: mount -o rmount,rw /, try that |
| 12:08.13 | ProperMadDad | just install my first debian system and it whent |
| 12:08.18 | [benovic] | bob2, killed it... but no idea if it works from now on... but thanx! |
| 12:08.35 | notty | bob2: mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or / busy # mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on / |
| 12:08.36 | bob2 | [benovic]: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
| 12:09.00 | ProperMadDad | went very smooth but I need a howto on installing the nvidia drive as the screen is killing my eyes |
| 12:09.08 | zedboy | hm, who should be providing /usr/share/i18n/, and is this why locale is giving me errors ("Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory") |
| 12:09.28 | bob2 | ProperMadDad: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 12:09.28 | jm_ | ProperMadDad: ask dpkg |
| 12:09.43 | bob2 | ProperMadDad: screen refresh rate problems are not directly related to not using the binary driver tho |
| 12:10.06 | ProperMadDad | thanks |
| 12:10.14 | saloxin | notty: you might need a fsck to get it going again, touch /FORCEFSCK and pray, or get someone onsite |
| 12:10.15 | fr33think3r | thanks all .. bye :) |
| 12:10.27 | Bizzeh | screen refresh rate problems are directly related to not using a good make gfx card :P |
| 12:10.52 | [benovic] | bob2, olo, i did it like killall Apache2 :-) |
| 12:10.57 | row | does debian php4 have DBG compiled in? |
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| 12:11.04 | notty | saloxin: i did a fsck and it says / is clean (after reparing some inodes) |
| 12:11.21 | saloxin | ah cool |
| 12:11.27 | lestest | hi there is there a tool to record audio stream into mp3 files? |
| 12:11.40 | saloxin | mount / -o remount,rw no success? |
| 12:11.41 | bob2 | row: /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian |
| 12:11.42 | orjan_ | Is it possible to add to the root meny in blackbox in a way that stays when updateing blackbox? |
| 12:11.47 | bob2 | lestest: rec + lame, yeah |
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| 12:12.16 | notty | saloxin: no.. now the fsck gives other errors hmmmmm |
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| 12:12.19 | lestest | bob2: thanks |
| 12:12.26 | saloxin | notty: -> #flood |
| 12:12.40 | jm_ | orjan: Debian's menu systems allows for that |
| 12:12.44 | jm_ | system* |
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| 12:13.39 | orjan_ | jm_ any good docs ( more than /usr/share)? |
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| 12:14.18 | jm_ | orjan_: maybe man update-menus - I never really used this, I just use config files in my home dir with my window manager |
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| 12:14.58 | notty | saloxin: what should i do ? |
| 12:14.59 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... |
| 12:15.13 | saloxin | notty: run fsck again? check your backups? |
| 12:15.16 | orjan_ | jm_: I googled a bit and it seems from the bug tracking that it doesn't work with blackbox to add menues in the homedir |
| 12:15.42 | notty | saloxin: that box is under heavy dust.. i think that is the cause :( |
| 12:15.45 | Bizzeh | how good is debians x86_64 support? |
| 12:15.52 | saloxin | notty: that was a load of really bad errors, might be disk failing |
| 12:16.05 | EmleyMoor | It seems that start-stop-daemon is simply not starting something for me - why would that be? Where can I see any error message it is giving? |
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| 12:16.28 | resiak | !amd64 |
| 12:16.28 | dpkg | well, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 12:16.41 | saloxin | notty: repeat fsck untill no errors, if ever |
| 12:18.46 | jm_ | orjan_: could be, I don't use blackbox myself |
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| 12:19.26 | orjan_ | jm_: ok thanks |
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| 12:19.42 | SeicherlB | @bob2: concerning shorewall: when i have my ppp0 connection (adsl-modem) via eth1, do i have to set up shorewall on interface eth1 or ppp0 ?! |
| 12:20.45 | EmleyMoor | How do I see why a script in /etc/init.d seems to be "pretending" to start the daemon I want to run, rather than actually doing it? |
| 12:21.04 | jm_ | try stracing it |
| 12:21.05 | saloxin | EmleyMoor: "set -x" at the top of the script |
| 12:21.12 | jm_ | or see if the daemon has debugging support |
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| 12:21.29 | EmleyMoor | saloxin: Done it - but no go. You only see it pretending |
| 12:21.32 | FinnTux | I know this might be slightly wrong channel to ask about DNS, but I'm sure there is people here who know about it |
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| 12:21.52 | FinnTux | lets take domain1.com for example |
| 12:21.59 | EmleyMoor | jm_: The daemon starts OK manually, just not from the script. Will strace |
| 12:22.09 | michael__ | any "unrar" packages with debian? |
| 12:22.13 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: well that's why you should strace the script |
| 12:22.24 | js_ | michael__: yes, in non-free |
| 12:22.25 | jm_ | !tell michael_ -about search |
| 12:22.27 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... no strace |
| 12:22.30 | FinnTux | if I want mail.domain2.com to handle their mail, do I need A record for mail.domain2.com? |
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| 12:23.12 | EmleyMoor | Still, soon fixed |
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| 12:23.39 | Fleck | if kernel oops ocurs... i need to restart my PC? |
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| 12:24.04 | EzoNaan | Hello. I am looking to make my wifi card (using ndiswrappers) listen for connections (like an accesspoint) in debian.. Any pointers on AP software or something else that can help? |
| 12:24.33 | BartVB | FinnTux: you need an MX record on domain1.com and you need an A record on domain2.com for mail.domain.com |
| 12:24.46 | jm_ | Fleck: it depends |
| 12:24.46 | BartVB | eeh, mail.domain2.com that is |
| 12:25.03 | FinnTux | thx BartVB |
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| 12:25.21 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... SIGCHLD is occurring for some reason |
| 12:25.24 | FinnTux | just wondering what happens if mail.domain2.com's IP changes... |
| 12:25.34 | jm_ | SIGCHLD means that it forked and child process exited |
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| 12:25.43 | BartVB | EzoNaan: what about google? :) http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3467111 is the first hit for me |
| 12:26.22 | michael__ | jm_: how can I add a non-free deb src to my sources.list? or how is installation done for non-free? |
| 12:26.25 | EzoNaan | BartVB, That one doesn't work for me. The driver has issues with it. |
| 12:26.39 | EzoNaan | I cant change the cards mode in to Master |
| 12:26.42 | jm_ | michael__: run apt-setup or do it by hand (man sources.list) |
| 12:26.52 | BartVB | FinnTux: nothing if the MX record on domain.com refers to mail.domain2.com (i.e. you aren't working with IPs in the MX record) |
| 12:26.58 | jm_ | michael__: you install it exactly the same way as any other packages |
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| 12:27.23 | BartVB | FinnTux: well, that isn't entirely true. You will have a problem during the time that's required for the DNS propagation. So mail will end up at a secondary MX during that time. |
| 12:27.28 | FinnTux | ok ok. I read your answer again...with some thought |
| 12:27.46 | BartVB | EzoNaan: so your problem is quite a bit more specific than 'how do I create an AP' :) |
| 12:27.52 | plbgnr | hello I installed postgresql package and tried to start it but it didnt start and there is no entry about this in log (it's empty) can anybody help? |
| 12:28.28 | zedboy | plbgnr: can you be more specific? |
| 12:28.33 | EzoNaan | BartVB, Well. I figure I want to try some other ways before I try solving that issue. |
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| 12:29.21 | FinnTux | so A record for mail servers are not needed (if they are in a different domain. ie. handled by that domain) |
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| 12:29.49 | BartVB | EzoNaan: there are more tutorials available: http://www.techonline.com/community/tech_topic/linux/28313 |
| 12:29.57 | michael__ | jm_: I know how to actually add a src to sources.list but I don't know how adding a non-free mirror is done (exact url etc)? is it any mirror with contrib non-free/ ? |
| 12:30.12 | plbgnr | zedboy: I use /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 to start ... arg. start and status to find out state |
| 12:30.26 | BartVB | EzoNaan: IMO just asking 'how do I build an AP' is not a suitable question for IRC. It's a way too complex/big problem. |
| 12:30.43 | BartVB | FinnTux: true. on domain1.com you only need the MX record. |
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| 12:30.46 | zedboy | plbgnr: and what happened when you did "/etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 start"? is the process running? |
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| 12:31.10 | EzoNaan | BartVB, Yeah, sorry. I should be more specific. let me read this and I'll paste the error I get when trying to enter managed mode. |
| 12:31.28 | FinnTux | BartVB, ok. Thanks |
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| 12:32.33 | plbgnr | zedboy: just message 'Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server:.' and no process is started |
| 12:33.22 | manu | How do i configurte max_thread_proc |
| 12:33.25 | plbgnr | zedboy: I start it as root |
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| 12:33.32 | EzoNaan | Okay. When I try setting my wlan0 into master mode with this command.. "iwconfig wlan0 mode master" I get this response: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : |
| 12:33.32 | EzoNaan | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.33 | manu | I cant find it any where |
| 12:33.37 | manu | :( |
| 12:33.43 | zedboy | plbgnr: hm. is there a file /var/run/postmaster.pid (or whatever it's called)? |
| 12:34.36 | plbgnr | zedboy: no |
| 12:34.51 | saloxin | EzoNaan: many wireless cards suck coconuts. especially under ndiswrapper thingy. easy way out is to use something supoprted by hostap - http://hostap.epitest.fi/ |
| 12:35.09 | EzoNaan | saloxin, :\ |
| 12:35.33 | zedboy | plbgnr: try running the program yourself (instead of letting the script use start-stop-daemon) |
| 12:35.51 | manu | How do i configurte max_thread_proc |
| 12:35.52 | manu | I cant find it any where |
| 12:36.04 | plbgnr | zedboy: ok |
| 12:36.30 | jm_ | michael__: same URL, just different section - man sources.list |
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| 12:36.45 | jm_ | michael__: it has examples |
| 12:37.35 | takatumi | saloxin: madwifi works well as well. (Atheros based cards) |
| 12:37.42 | saloxin | takatumi: :-D |
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| 12:41.30 | spo0nman | how to find the PID of the process connected to a socket? it shows in netsatat but not in sockstat. |
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| 12:41.47 | sparr | for a single-binary game, would it normally be installed directly to /usr/local/bin, or should i do /usr/local/games/binary and link in /usr/local/bin, or should i do /usr/local/games/gamename/binary and link in /usr/local/bin? |
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| 12:42.42 | plbgnr | zedboy: maybe it isn't correctly installed ... dpkg -L postgresql - is very short list :) |
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| 12:42.47 | saloxin | spo0nman: netstat -anp (as root)? |
| 12:43.20 | saloxin | spo0nman: /usr/local/* is all yours, so have fun |
| 12:43.28 | saloxin | sparr: /usr/local/* is all yours, so have fun |
| 12:43.59 | zedboy | plbgnr: well. if dpkg installed it, it should be ok, right? |
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| 12:44.27 | zedboy | plbgnr: maybe there are other postgres pkgs to get? (I haven't used postgres except for about 3 days in ... 2001?) |
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| 12:48.17 | sparr | saloxin: yes, but if im going to make a package i would like to play nice |
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| 12:48.34 | spo0nman | saloxin: ruunning BSD |
| 12:49.02 | spo0nman | saloxin: sudo lsof -i:portnumber does it. |
| 12:49.07 | Huseyn | !ping me |
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| 12:49.19 | Huseyn | fuck |
| 12:49.23 | spo0nman | but its not listing FIN_WAIT sockets |
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| 12:50.22 | spo0nman | basically my mysql died and something is holding port 3306 and i can see it in netstat and netstat on BSD does not support -p option. so im screwed. technically i should be cribbing on ##freebsd. |
| 12:51.02 | PerfDave | spo0nman: If you're using FreeBSD, why are you asking on #debian? |
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| 12:51.22 | azeem | maybe he got Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
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| 12:51.48 | plbgnr | zedboy I tried postgresqp-8.0 ...all the same |
| 12:52.05 | spo0nman | PerfDave: because I use debian too and this is the chan i "hang out" in. anyways forget it. |
| 12:52.12 | zedboy | plbgnr: but what happens when you run the server daemon yourself (manually)? |
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| 12:52.34 | PerfDave | spo0nman: That's great. Why do you think that #debian will be able to help you with FreeBSD specific options to netstat? |
| 12:53.11 | spo0nman | PerfDave: do you see me asking aother question? |
| 12:53.30 | spo0nman | PerfDave: I said i'm going to crib on ##freebsd so i am right now. |
| 12:53.55 | doublehp | dpkg -i strace_4.5.12-1_i386.deb ==>> "files list file for package `xlibmesa-gl' is missing final newline" ... how to solve ? |
| 12:53.58 | PerfDave | spo0nman: Be seeing you :) |
| 12:54.30 | doublehp | dpkg: are you a stupid bot ? |
| 12:54.49 | spo0nman | saloxin: how goes it? |
| 12:56.44 | Shadur | doublehp: No, dpkg is just a bot. You're the stupid one for complaining about it. |
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| 12:57.33 | Shadur | doublehp: If dpkg is erroring over that I suppose you could edit the files list for the xlibmesa-gl package (should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ somewhere) and add the final newline that it's complaining about. |
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| 12:58.10 | plbgnr | zedboy: /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postgres ? |
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| 13:00.18 | doublehp | Shadur: ' rm foo.list ' did it :p |
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| 13:03.39 | saloxin | spo0nman: hehe, it goes well. crap job of course so irc'ing. you? |
| 13:03.53 | systems | what is an alternative to the lame mp3 encoder |
| 13:03.59 | PerfDave | systems: vorbisenc :) |
| 13:04.25 | systems | :) thanks |
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| 13:05.17 | elephantman | Hi all |
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| 13:05.33 | QMeister | hie |
| 13:05.38 | QMeister | hie = hi :-) |
| 13:05.48 | QMeister | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.02 | elephantman | Why does ssh transaction doesn't work when ssh-keygen output a file with non default name ? |
| 13:06.27 | elephantman | When i use '-f mykey' then transaction doesnt work |
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| 13:08.04 | kane-xs | elephantman: my ssh wants -i -- i'm assuming yorus too |
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| 13:08.16 | doublehp | is there an OFFICIAL package that will depend upon most common required ones, to get something which looks like Knoppix or Ubuntu, but using official CDs ? a fast way to install a box for dummies. - not for me, but for my friends. |
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| 13:09.28 | PerfDave | doublehp: d-i ? |
| 13:10.12 | Fleck | jm_ i tried to remove audio module and now USB doesn't work, can't remove any modules and audio module is still there... oops |
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| 13:10.30 | Fleck | rmmod hangs |
| 13:10.39 | Fleck | and can't kill it |
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| 13:12.26 | Fleck | jm_ can i restart USB some how without reboot? |
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| 13:14.31 | jm_ | Fleck: you need to remove them in proper order, because modules depend on each other |
| 13:15.02 | jm_ | Fleck: but rmmod hanging might well be a consequence of an oops |
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| 13:16.53 | cap | Why do reported bugs survive in Debian through the years? (for instance #268630 was reported on Aug 28 2004 and is still in Etch) |
| 13:17.00 | doublehp | PerfDave: what is d-i ? |
| 13:17.12 | jm_ | just one year old? you haven't seen really old bugs |
| 13:17.27 | PerfDave | doublehp: d-i is the Debian installer. |
| 13:17.41 | cap | Ok, haven't really used Debian for quite long. I guess I'm spoiled by NetBSD/FreeBSD fast bug fixes =) |
| 13:18.02 | PerfDave | Many Debian bugs have fixes attached to the bug reports that the maintainers CBA to apply. |
| 13:18.24 | cap | jm_, why does no one feel responsible to fix this really nasty trivial segfault situation? |
| 13:18.52 | cap | I heard >5000 commiters are working on Debian packages... |
| 13:18.53 | jm_ | cap: don't ask me - I also hate it when you mail the person and you don't even get a reply back |
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| 13:19.28 | cap | While only about 200 commiters for packages in the BSD projects each. And they really fix their bugs fast. |
| 13:19.45 | jm_ | but I am not complaining too much since I am not a maintainer - all I know is I would give it to someone who has time or cares |
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| 13:20.10 | kane-xs | is there a mechanism in debian that allows 1 file to be 'owned' by 2 packages, and when the last one is removed, so is the file? |
| 13:20.12 | cap | jm_, that's sad, cause Debian is used almost everywhere nowadays. |
| 13:20.14 | SeicherlB | can anybody help me with shorewall?? plz! |
| 13:20.34 | jm_ | kane-xs: no, but maybe you mean overrides, man dpkg-override |
| 13:20.37 | PerfDave | The 0-day Non-Maintainer Update policy at Bug Squashing Parties seems to be helping the Debian bug situation. There's talk of encouraging more Debian Developers to co-maintain packages to increase the speed with which bugs get fixed. |
| 13:20.47 | kane-xs | jm_ reading, ta |
| 13:20.49 | jm_ | sorry dpkg-diver, not override |
| 13:20.49 | cap | kane-xs, run a cron-job with a trivial script. |
| 13:20.54 | jm_ | kane-xs: see above |
| 13:21.16 | kane-xs | cap: i want it to be part of the module de-installation if possible |
| 13:21.16 | jm_ | and last fix: dpkg-divert |
| 13:21.49 | kane-xs | jm_ i figured that one ;) reading the manpage now |
| 13:22.12 | PerfDave | doublehp: The Debian installer lets you set up common desktop stuff very easily. |
| 13:22.13 | jm_ | kane-xs: yeah shell completion for man pages is really handy anyway |
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| 13:22.44 | julian | salut |
| 13:22.46 | cap | PerfDave, nice to hear. |
| 13:22.49 | cap | hi julian |
| 13:22.52 | julian | hi |
| 13:22.54 | SeicherlB | can anybody help me with shorewall?? plz! |
| 13:23.12 | enveezee | is it possible on a network of bluetooth or wifi or other wireless protocol AP's to monitor the signal strength of a specific device? Basically I am wondering if I have say 3 AP's or recievers and someone moving around with a wireless device can I get statistics to triangulate their location based on stregth of the singal at the 3 points |
| 13:23.36 | Wille88 | I'm trying to run base-config under chroot, but it says only Terminated. Here's strace: http://vankila.org/base-config.txt |
| 13:23.41 | PerfDave | enveezee: You probably want to ask #wireless |
| 13:24.13 | enveezee | PerfDave: probably. I was thinking about that earlier. but then by time I got home and asked I forgot |
| 13:24.25 | doublehp | PerfDave: never used it for myself, forgot it does exists, but yes I remember it is somewhere by the end of install CD process :p |
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| 13:27.42 | dr_nick | hi |
| 13:27.55 | enveezee | Triangulation of people based on wireless signal is a strech but its an idea I came up with sitting around doing nothing last night |
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| 13:28.57 | enveezee | the idea of triangulation is pretty simple and supposing 3 recievers can get some kind of reading of how close a certain client is, it shouldnt be that hard |
| 13:29.00 | dr_nick | what's this? i'm trying to build a kernel the way i always did now the debian-patch fails: |
| 13:29.07 | dr_nick | E: Can't patch to nonexistent revision (wait until 2006) |
| 13:29.07 | dr_nick | Patch /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/2.6.12/apply/debian failed. |
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| 13:29.50 | dr_nick | this is how i call make-kpkg: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=markus.1.0 --config=menuconfig --added-patches=debian,vserver --append-to-version="-k7+vserver" kernel_image |
| 13:30.04 | kane-xs | jm_ thanks for the hint -- this actually pointed me to 'alternatives' as a, well, alternative.. which seesm to do the trick from what i can tell |
| 13:30.18 | vimman | i just did installed gdm and xserver-xfree86 .. using apt-get install <package>..... now when i boot .. the x windows does not start .. and says my gdm is not configured properly.. how do configure the gdm properly ? |
| 13:31.07 | jm_ | kane-xs: alternatives won't help if the packages have conflicting filenames, but can be used to achieve similar effect too |
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| 13:31.32 | kane-xs | jm_ correct.. but i can live with the files having a longer name (versioned) and have alternatives manage a short name |
| 13:32.29 | jm_ | kane-xs: yup, it's a good option |
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| 13:33.26 | _gass_ | hello ppl |
| 13:33.38 | fooz | yay.. sourceforge fell over |
| 13:33.53 | _gass_ | in gnome i have in the print option of evince create pdf document, but it says that is not supported |
| 13:34.02 | _gass_ | how can i make it suported? |
| 13:34.18 | jm_ | _gass_: are you using CUPS? |
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| 13:34.56 | kane-xs | isn't sourceforge perpetually in the process of falling over? |
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| 13:35.34 | fooz | kane-xs, when it's not being hacked into, yeah |
| 13:36.06 | _gass_ | cups pdf? |
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| 13:36.39 | kane-xs | fooz: i know of a lot of unhappy people, especially after their last announcement of mysql 'upgrade' |
| 13:36.48 | _gass_ | jm_: yes |
| 13:36.58 | jm_ | _gass_: try cups-pdf then |
| 13:36.58 | _gass_ | jm_: cups-pdf? |
| 13:37.02 | jm_ | _gass_: right |
| 13:37.05 | SuperSox | humm, I use the same 'custom' bash prompt on my local system and on my remote server (I think it involves vga characters?) it works fine on the local system but as soon as I ssh to the remote system the fonts become garbled, any suggestions? |
| 13:37.13 | _gass_ | jm_: yes ... trying noe |
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| 13:37.41 | fooz | it's just annoying when fully 3/4 of the world's CVS repositories and software project web sites go down all at once because the geniuses decided to put them all on the same box |
| 13:38.26 | fooz | some day it'll go down, and not come back up, and the world will end |
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| 13:38.44 | _gass_ | jm_: restarted cups and still nothing |
| 13:38.51 | mtnman | supersox: check that the locales match |
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| 13:39.41 | beleys | (re) Yop |
| 13:39.58 | jm_ | _gass_: uhm you need to add a new printer |
| 13:40.07 | ^bob | i have an ext3 filesystem that fails fsck on boot (no such device), but mounts no problem manually after boot. fire wire drive, stable sarge powerpc. any ideas? |
| 13:40.11 | SuperSox | mtnman: mtnman: how do I easily check that? :x |
| 13:40.29 | mtnman | supersox: um, man locales... |
| 13:40.43 | enveezee | ntp-simple installs and starts a daemon called ntp-server, do I need this? |
| 13:40.50 | jm_ | enveezee: do you? |
| 13:40.54 | SuperSox | mtnman: hehe nm found it on google... just me being lazy ;) |
| 13:41.03 | enveezee | I finally figured out thats what was stopping me from running ntpdate |
| 13:41.13 | enveezee | jm_: I dunno. I just want my time right |
| 13:41.18 | mtnman | supersox: laziness is not a highly valued trait on this channel |
| 13:41.19 | _gass_ | jm_: and what driver? |
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| 13:41.37 | enveezee | I was running around late last night because I thought it was earlier than it was |
| 13:41.42 | jm_ | _gass_: it's explained in the docs |
| 13:41.59 | jm_ | enveezee: right, then use it |
| 13:42.15 | enveezee | jm_: yeah but isnt that for serving time to other peopl? |
| 13:42.23 | jm_ | enveezee: no |
| 13:42.36 | jm_ | it works for updating time too |
| 13:42.38 | SuperSox | mtnman: I know ;) |
| 13:42.51 | SuperSox | locales wasn't actually installed |
| 13:42.54 | jm_ | enveezee: /msg dpkg set time |
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| 13:43.04 | _gass_ | jm_: humm ... ok |
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| 13:44.44 | bobslaede | Can anybody recomend a good backup solution for linux server, with windows clients. AMANDA is out of the question, as it uses tape drives, even with cdrw-taper for amanda it wont work, I need it to make backups on a removable usb/firewire harddrive. |
| 13:45.04 | asg | bobslaede: bacula, backuppc |
| 13:45.19 | bobslaede | can bacula work over, say samba_ |
| 13:45.24 | asg | bobslaede: yes |
| 13:45.42 | bobslaede | then that will be the program to use i suppose >( |
| 13:45.43 | bobslaede | :) |
| 13:45.49 | bobslaede | thanks |
| 13:46.02 | asg | bobslaede: check backuppc also |
| 13:46.31 | _gass_ | jm_: if you are using gnome, go to evince and click in print. you have there create pdf document |
| 13:46.33 | systems | does debian have an mp3 encoder ? |
| 13:46.43 | bobslaede | allright |
| 13:46.44 | _gass_ | systems: i fink not, only ogg |
| 13:46.47 | asg | systems: /msg dpkg lame |
| 13:46.49 | xtf | My unstable system refused to boot after an upgrade to 2.6.14. I filed a normal bug, should it be upgraded to serious: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=336392 |
| 13:46.50 | jm_ | _gass_: I am not using GNOME :) |
| 13:47.12 | _gass_ | jm_: thank you anyway ... it has an option there, very nice ... |
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| 13:47.24 | bobslaede | asg: that looks kinda better actually |
| 13:47.29 | bobslaede | backuppc |
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| 13:51.36 | justStormY | hi kann mir jemand sagen wo ich apt herbekomme? |
| 13:52.02 | asg | justStormY: No, this is an English only Channel. |
| 13:52.13 | SuperSox | mtnman: thanks, that solved the problem :) |
| 13:52.13 | justStormY | ou sry |
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| 13:52.22 | justStormY | can anybody tell me where i can get apt? |
| 13:52.38 | asg | justStormY: it comes as part of Debian |
| 13:52.45 | PerfDave | justStormY: What do you mean, "where you can get apt"? The apt-get command and similar should be installed on your Debian system. |
| 13:52.47 | asg | justStormY: you can download the deb from packages.debian.org though |
| 13:52.48 | kingmike | justStormY : what do you mean ? |
| 13:53.17 | justStormY | yes but i have knoppix system where is no dpkg and apt installed - now i would install dpkg and then apt.... |
| 13:53.19 | kingmike | justStormY : you just have to do a "apt-get install apt" :-) |
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| 13:53.37 | PerfDave | justStormY: If you're using Knoppix, then ask #knoppix. |
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| 13:53.53 | necr0man6er | someone want to help setting up a belgian debian site |
| 13:54.19 | kingmike | justStormY : Knoppix is designed to be used on liveCDs, if you want a debian based distro, you should consider switching to debian |
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| 13:54.52 | enveezee | exit |
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| 13:55.19 | neil | Hi i am trying to get java to work, I have installed the 'free-java-sdk' package. But when I try to compile a 'hello world' class I get a 'could not find package "java.lang"' message, I have looked in the man page it wasn't much help. |
| 13:55.29 | justStormY | i would create my own live linux within serveral server and because that i am a linux newbie i need dpkg and apt :) |
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| 13:58.03 | _gass_ | jm_: http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ola0ie.jpg |
| 13:58.57 | PerfDave | neil: Anything in /usr/share/doc/free-java-sdk of use? |
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| 13:59.17 | amsj_ | _gass_, use ps2pdf |
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| 14:03.24 | spo0nman | saloxin: still with yahoo. job not so crap but still IRC'ing. |
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| 14:05.01 | jm_ | _gass_: it's not that I don't believe you, I just wanted to propose an alternative |
| 14:05.07 | neil | PerfDave: the README meationed 'JAVA_HOME' I tried setting as sugested but still got the same results. |
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| 14:07.02 | Furio_G | Hi all, I'm about to install Debian but not sure if I want testing or unstable. I want to setup a few games in it so I'd presume unstable would be the best. Most people I speak to tell me not to use it because it crashes. If you're using unstable, would you be able to tell me how many times your system crashed and how serious was it? :) |
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| 14:07.39 | oklinux | what is the base-config command to setup your monitor size ? |
| 14:07.46 | abrotman | tarzeau: i heard GORM sucks! |
| 14:07.54 | possie | i have two machines, on one of them i have X running, how can i logon to the X server without running X on my local machine |
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| 14:08.08 | asg | !drxx oklinux |
| 14:08.09 | dpkg | oklinux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 14:08.20 | _gass_ | jm_: ok, thank you |
| 14:08.32 | oklinux | thanks |
| 14:08.46 | asg | possie: /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 14:09.46 | resiak | Furio_G: If you have to ask, you should _not_ use unstable. /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 14:11.15 | abrotman | Furio_G: if you're new to debian .. use stable .. testing and unstable are both kind of a mess right now |
| 14:11.29 | jlmb | Furio_G: agree with resiak. You have to be very careful when upgrading. |
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| 14:11.50 | Furio_G | I'm kind of new, I've been running Gentoo/Arch but they have short comings |
| 14:11.53 | resiak | Furio_G: (and yes, you can run games on Stable. I do, as do many many others.) |
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| 14:12.16 | Blissex | possie: if both PCs are on the same LAN, you don't need to do anythhing other than possibly opening authentication or firewalling. |
| 14:12.17 | dimir | Furio_G: running it for ages with no single crash. Met strange dependancies for a couple of times which I had to solve manually. Other than that - no problems at all. |
| 14:12.23 | Furio_G | resiak, It's just the kernel right? If I keep that up to dat it's fine? |
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| 14:13.21 | Blissex | possie: note however that what you say literally is impossible. |
| 14:13.31 | abrotman | Furio_G: no .. there are all kinds of issues |
| 14:13.43 | wang | I have an mp3 player i need to mount to my debian box via usb so i can add/remove music, does anyone know of a site that can help me with this? |
| 14:14.03 | asg | wang: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 14:14.13 | wang | thanks |
| 14:14.16 | Jay16K | heya guys, is there any chance to find a (etch)boot floppy with support for the Realtek RTL8150 USB NIC Chipset? |
| 14:14.20 | darsie | hi! How do I reverse the order in which my 2 soundc card modules are loaded? I don't know where they are actually loaded? I just made them LKMs and configured ALSA in the kernel, but not in userspace. I want my new sound card to be /dev/dsp, not dsp1. |
| 14:14.29 | Jay16K | i tried the latest daily but it didn't work |
| 14:14.32 | systray` | wang, wich mp3 player? |
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| 14:14.38 | systray` | some players uses libnjb |
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| 14:14.44 | systray` | mine for exemple |
| 14:14.46 | wang | sandisk |
| 14:14.52 | wang | nothing fancy, just for running |
| 14:14.52 | wang | =) |
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| 14:16.16 | abrotman | last i heard .. you couldn't install k3b and kdevelop on testing |
| 14:16.23 | systray` | i'm using Creative Jukebox, running under libnjb |
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| 14:16.40 | darsie | hmm, I could put them in /etc/modules and hope the are loaded before the ghost loads them. |
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| 14:18.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: huh? |
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| 14:18.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha /. :) |
| 14:18.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: yeah .. sorry |
| 14:19.10 | messia | a dopo ciauuuuuu |
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| 14:20.31 | nono31 | I updated todya and I can't burn dvd anymore with k3b (new upstream release)... someone have the same problem? |
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| 14:21.12 | wang | how do you install a module? |
| 14:21.24 | technos | coffee!! mmmm. |
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| 14:21.29 | poissondor | modprobe modulename |
| 14:21.39 | poissondor | without .ko |
| 14:21.39 | wang | i did that and it returned nothing possie |
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| 14:21.43 | racoontje | hi. |
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| 14:21.47 | wang | err poissondor |
| 14:22.09 | poissondor | It doens return anithing |
| 14:22.11 | dvm1981 | hi :-) |
| 14:22.19 | wang | that must mean the module is already installed? |
| 14:22.29 | poissondor | If you do dmesg to see kernel log, you can sometimes see something |
| 14:22.31 | racoontje | I have a .deb for a game called openttd. It's i386. How can I use it on amd64? I haven't found the src deb |
| 14:22.32 | darsie | wang try lsmod |
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| 14:22.55 | wang | scsi_mod 115148 4 usb_storage,aic7xxx,sd_mod,libata |
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| 14:23.00 | wang | interesting |
| 14:23.02 | jm_ | racoontje: 32bit chroot I guess |
| 14:23.26 | poissondor | apt-get install ia32-libs is easier and often works |
| 14:23.27 | dvm1981 | wang : or lsmod > TO_TEXT_FILE |
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| 14:23.50 | masteraccurate | hello |
| 14:23.50 | resiak | Furio_G: No, you don't need to touch your kernel. Just install Sarge. |
| 14:23.54 | jm_ | I doubt you'll be able to install deb for different arch - that might work with tarball installation |
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| 14:24.30 | wang | usb_storage 59328 0 |
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| 14:25.16 | poissondor | jmb: dpkg -x ? |
| 14:25.59 | Furio_G | resiak, I have an ATI that is a pain in the ass to configure, I did it in arch but had to compile agpgart into the kernel for it to work |
| 14:26.13 | jm_ | poissondor: sure, you can always extract it - I was referring to dpkg --install, but I see that he asked how to use it, not how to install it so he should definitely try this |
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| 14:26.40 | wang | how do i scan this machine to see where usb will mount from, like /dev/sda1 or so? |
| 14:27.20 | jm_ | wang: you can always see it in /proc/partitions after you plug it in |
| 14:27.33 | wang | oh ok |
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| 14:28.34 | dvm1981 | wang : when i have setup my usb, i have booted pluged with the usb, that easier to setup |
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| 14:28.48 | resiak | Furio_G: /msg dpkg ati |
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| 14:28.57 | wang | oh it has to detect it on startup? |
| 14:29.16 | jm_ | no, it's done when you plug it in |
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| 14:29.25 | Furio_G | resiak, thanks, i gotta learn how to use this dpkg bot :D |
| 14:29.45 | dvm1981 | wang : And i have use Knoppix to learn some tings about (some configs are interesting to compare), but im iteresting in you're situation |
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| 14:30.36 | wang | cool it worked, adding /dev/sda1 /player vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0 |
| 14:30.38 | wang | to ftab |
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| 14:30.42 | wang | then mounting /player |
| 14:30.44 | wang | =D |
| 14:30.49 | wang | thanks for the help ladies and gents. |
| 14:30.53 | dvm1981 | wang :-) |
| 14:30.56 | shocker | how can i run a command on boot? |
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| 14:31.15 | jm_ | I noticed it sometimes switches to /dev/sdb for me, if you unplug it and then plug it in later, pretty weird - never happened at work |
| 14:31.20 | oklinux | is it better to do ftp install or install by the cd ? |
| 14:31.26 | jm_ | so I need two entries in fstab |
| 14:31.36 | wang | hmm |
| 14:31.36 | resiak | jm_: Or just use gnome-volume-manager or similar |
| 14:31.59 | wang | i might as well add another entry for ti then, because it shoed sdb in /etc/partitions |
| 14:32.05 | wang | s/shoed/showed |
| 14:32.14 | technos | since when does debian have ladies ? |
| 14:32.25 | wang | oh you know what it's probably because of the multiples of usb ports on the box |
| 14:32.31 | jm_ | resiak: naah, I use a hotplug script which is now smart enough to mount the right device, only problem might be if user wants to umount it and it's not there (tried using -o users, but umount is smart - or stupid - enough to ignore command line options if it's not in fstab) |
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| 14:33.01 | jm_ | would be solved easily with udev, but I don't use that either ;) |
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| 14:34.28 | dvm1981 | wang : i have same troubles : with sda then sdb |
| 14:35.08 | towo_ | has anyone encountered problems with emacs21 in sid? it refuses to start in my machine, complains thatUndefined color: "black" |
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| 14:36.01 | dvm1981 | wang : i search for automatical startup of a script, but thingking ... |
| 14:36.15 | towo_ | i checked the bugs, no one seems to have that problem, so it could be my settings |
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| 14:36.39 | jm_ | that's not hard using hotplug, it's just device name that's causing problems - you can use usbmount and udev if you don't mind them |
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| 14:37.47 | dvm1981 | jm_ : Yes ;-) i must looking for it |
| 14:37.58 | wang | oot@splinter:/# chown mike /player |
| 14:37.59 | wang | chown: changing ownership of `/player': Operation not permitted |
| 14:38.01 | wang | any ideas? |
| 14:38.02 | dvm1981 | jm_ :i test |
| 14:38.10 | norskfjord | how do you make a linux box redetect network cards |
| 14:38.11 | jm_ | wang: surely user can't write in / ... |
| 14:38.12 | stew | wang: only root can chown |
| 14:38.20 | stew | wang: oh, i guess you are |
| 14:38.22 | wang | lol |
| 14:38.23 | dvm1981 | wang look at 'jm_' msg |
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| 14:38.28 | wang | ok so i should remake this mount point |
| 14:38.36 | wang | to something like /home/mike/player? |
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| 14:39.01 | stew | wang: does "lsattr /player" give you a string of --------------'s? or something different? |
| 14:39.08 | jm_ | wang: no, what you need are the right mount options - /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 14:39.32 | dvm1981 | that's great here :-) |
| 14:39.34 | shocker | how can i run a command on boot? |
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| 14:40.25 | stew | shocker: create an initscript for it /etc/init.d/README or put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
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| 14:40.50 | systray` | wang, is /player mounted? |
| 14:40.55 | wang | yes |
| 14:40.58 | systray` | before you chown |
| 14:40.58 | sett | anyone got a kftpgrabber for debian sarge? |
| 14:41.00 | systray` | umount |
| 14:41.08 | systray` | na |
| 14:41.24 | wang | ah |
| 14:41.33 | shocker | ok thanks stew |
| 14:42.05 | wang | presto, thanks sys |
| 14:42.15 | systray` | np |
| 14:42.39 | wang | hmm still gives me permission errors when i try to drag and drop to the player |
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| 14:42.48 | jm_ | of course it does, /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 14:42.51 | dvm1981 | thanks stew and shocker ;-) |
| 14:43.03 | norskfjord | how can I stop myself from getting dos'd? |
| 14:43.17 | norskfjord | someone is DoS attacking me |
| 14:43.18 | wang | ah ok |
| 14:43.18 | jm_ | norskfjord: you're dos-ing yourself? |
| 14:43.27 | wang | lol |
| 14:43.39 | kane-xs | norskfjord: stop pissing certain people off? |
| 14:43.44 | wang | rofl |
| 14:43.52 | norskfjord | Im not |
| 14:43.55 | kane-xs | norskfjord: you'll want to talk to your ISP |
| 14:43.55 | jm_ | well someone else, you need to talk to them |
| 14:44.08 | norskfjord | I baned someone for being abusing and they tryed to dos me |
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| 14:44.22 | sussudio | kawfee? |
| 14:44.24 | norskfjord | is there something I can use to stop this? |
| 14:44.38 | jm_ | on IRC? ask staff to give you fake hostname |
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| 14:44.44 | wang | disconnect your router from the internet POP |
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| 14:45.26 | dvm1981 | ...and not continue so here |
| 14:45.47 | dvm1981 | pluged network is pluged the internet |
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| 14:46.06 | norskfjord | how do you make a linux box redetect network cards |
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| 14:46.18 | jm_ | why would you do that? |
| 14:46.32 | PerfDave | norskfjord: What do you mean, "redetect"? You're hotplugging? |
| 14:46.52 | norskfjord | when I do ifconfig eth0 ip I get 'SIOCFSIFADDR: No such device' |
| 14:47.05 | jm_ | load the module for it |
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| 14:47.21 | PerfDave | norskfjord: "ifconfig -a" will show you all network interfaces recognised by your kernel. |
| 14:47.29 | jm_ | and use interfaces file to configure your network cards |
| 14:47.34 | norskfjord | also eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device |
| 14:47.53 | wang | "/dev/partition <--does that mean literally /dev/partition or the /dev/sda? |
| 14:48.14 | jm_ | sda1 for example |
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| 14:48.24 | wang | ok thanks |
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| 14:49.14 | abrotman | !moo |
| 14:49.14 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 14:49.37 | loxley_ | haha |
| 14:49.48 | norskfjord | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.49 | too-quick | how do i go about installing a .deb that i dl from a website? |
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| 14:49.58 | jm_ | too-quick: man dpkg |
| 14:50.05 | abrotman | too-quick: |
| 14:50.07 | abrotman | damn it! |
| 14:50.11 | too-quick | k ty |
| 14:50.20 | abrotman | jm_: you are .. too-quick .. hahahah HAHAHHA hahaha |
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| 14:50.22 | jm_ | I think FAQ also covers this |
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| 14:50.43 | too-quick | mans are good enough |
| 14:50.43 | norskfjord | do I have to load the module or something? |
| 14:50.45 | too-quick | thanks |
| 14:50.53 | jm_ | yup 1.7. How do I install new packages? |
| 14:50.59 | johaBBa | i have a password that was created in mysql with PASSWORD(someword). how do i decrypt that? |
| 14:51.06 | norskfjord | jm_, apt-get update |
| 14:51.14 | jm_ | norskfjord: ehh? |
| 14:51.16 | norskfjord | jm_, apt-cache search file name |
| 14:51.21 | dvm1981 | dpkg -i PACKAGE.DEB |
| 14:51.21 | norskfjord | to install packages |
| 14:51.24 | jm_ | norskfjord: apt-cache doesn't search for filenames |
| 14:51.47 | norskfjord | app name I mean |
| 14:51.54 | jm_ | right |
| 14:51.56 | wang | umount: /home/mike/player: device is busy |
| 14:52.01 | wang | i don't have anything in the volume |
| 14:52.02 | dvm1981 | what's thats ''* dpkg installs PACKAGE.DEB into dvm1981's ear with a hammer" |
| 14:52.07 | dvm1981 | not understanding ... |
| 14:52.15 | stew | wang: do you have a shell where /home/mike/player is the pwd? |
| 14:52.22 | jm_ | dvm1981: you triggered the bot by saying dpkg -i bla |
| 14:52.44 | systray` | wang, you must quit this dir |
| 14:52.44 | stew | dpkg: love dvm1981 |
| 14:52.50 | wang | i'm not in the directory |
| 14:53.11 | abrotman | !distract strew |
| 14:53.12 | wang | not to my knowledge, i just did pwd on all terminals and nothing was in that directory |
| 14:53.17 | stew | wang: "fuser /home/mike/player" will tell you what process has it open |
| 14:53.25 | abrotman | whoops |
| 14:53.33 | norskfjord | hello? |
| 14:53.41 | wang | root@splinter:/# fuser /home/mike/player |
| 14:53.42 | wang | root@splinter:/# |
| 14:53.46 | wang | ./home/mike/player: 2704 |
| 14:53.52 | another | I need to do startx twice to get X running. The first time, it terminates with "cannot open device /dev/psaux". The next time, it works fine. This is testing, x.org, and I have a touchpad on /dev/psaux. I can't see why this is happening. |
| 14:53.53 | wang | is 2704 a pid? |
| 14:53.55 | wang | can i kill that? |
| 14:54.07 | stew | wang: yes, "ps 2704" will tell you what it is |
| 14:54.30 | wang | 2704 ? Ss 0:19 /usr/sbin/famd -T 0 |
| 14:54.38 | wang | what's famd |
| 14:54.41 | stew | !famd |
| 14:54.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, famd is the File Alteration Monitor, a daemon that will notify you when any of a given list of files changes, or see, apt-cache show fam, or famd can make it more difficult to unmount devices |
| 14:54.56 | stew | sounds like a gnomeism or something |
| 14:54.56 | wang | famd - The File Alteration Monitor (FAM) daemon |
| 14:55.24 | abrotman | stew: it's not a gnome-ism .. but gnome(metapackage) requires it |
| 14:55.26 | wang | i just killed the pid. |
| 14:56.23 | dvm1981 | dpkg understanding a little bit... |
| 14:56.25 | wang | ok data is being transferred from the hard drive to the player, looks good to me. thanks again. |
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| 14:56.47 | stew | is it friday yet? |
| 14:56.58 | Ronin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.02 | asg | stew: not by a long shot |
| 14:57.04 | norskfjord | when I do ifconfig eth0 ip I get 'SIOCFSIFADDR: No such device' |
| 14:57.07 | norskfjord | also eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device |
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| 14:57.19 | norskfjord | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.28 | asg | norskfjord: then the kernel doesn't recognize your nic |
| 14:57.30 | stew | norskfjord: you need to modprobe a driver. what card is it? |
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| 14:57.53 | dvm1981 | norskfjord : and the '/etc/interface' file says ? |
| 14:58.00 | stew | norskfjord: or you need to install discover and let discover hopefully figure out what driver you need for you |
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| 14:58.27 | stew | dvm1981: doens't matter what interfaces (which is in /etc/network/) says until he gets a driver loaded |
| 14:58.56 | dvm1981 | stew ok : sorry |
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| 15:00.33 | abrotman | stew: horde does some weird stuff |
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| 15:01.25 | stew | abrotman: yes it most certainly does |
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| 15:01.34 | emilgut_ | ola |
| 15:01.38 | emi | ola |
| 15:01.50 | abrotman | stew: i uhm .. killed my 'admin' in ldap .. and now i can't have a user be admin |
| 15:01.56 | stew | abrotman: i need to install it on 3 more servers soon, and hopfully file a bunch of more bugs |
| 15:02.15 | emilgut_ | OLA |
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| 15:02.30 | stew | @es |
| 15:02.31 | ravenbird | somebody said es was For Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es channel. Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es |
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| 15:03.38 | dvm1981 | ravebird : BTW reciving extra extra sugestions :-) |
| 15:03.41 | brosioz | if i'll install apt from experimental i must remove apt-file and aptiude ??? |
| 15:03.43 | justStormY | is it possible that my netinst iso is only 108mb? |
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| 15:03.59 | emi | de adode eres |
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| 15:04.13 | emi | que |
| 15:04.17 | emilgut_ | OLA |
| 15:04.34 | _Tufe_ | Raid Scuzy..somebody help me??? |
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| 15:04.37 | emilgut_ | OLA |
| 15:04.37 | emi | nada |
| 15:04.53 | amphi | emi: talking to yourselves? |
| 15:04.57 | cahoot | justStormY: isn't there a md5sum to check if you're in doubt? |
| 15:05.03 | emi | soy de valencia |
| 15:05.10 | _Tufe_ | need help for configuration of raid scuzy |
| 15:05.15 | dvm1981 | Im looking for usbmount ore some else to automate usb mounting, not easy the first step |
| 15:05.21 | _Tufe_ | with scripts in Phyton |
| 15:05.26 | emilgut_ | OLA |
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| 15:05.54 | boguh | how can i quit a user from a ssh session? |
| 15:06.02 | saloxin | _Tufe_: nice hardware scsi raid should just work, and show up in the OS as fx /dev/sda |
| 15:06.03 | emilgut_ | EEEEEEEE |
| 15:06.07 | shdl__ | hi, what open source project exists to replace exchange or lotus (messaging system) ? |
| 15:06.14 | saloxin | boguh: slay username |
| 15:06.25 | emilgut_ | GORDO |
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| 15:06.40 | boguh | saloxin dont have slay |
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| 15:07.04 | hytt | apt-cache search slay |
| 15:07.04 | hytt | slay - Kills all of the user's processes |
| 15:07.17 | saloxin | boguh: it's installable. otherwise ps axuw | grep username -> kill it |
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| 15:07.41 | pony | vg |
| 15:07.43 | N0S3 | hello |
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| 15:08.03 | hytt | or kill connection from this user |
| 15:08.06 | dvm1981 | Really thanks to the peoples here (the real hackers ??) i must go one now, i comming back here..., it's sure this is a nice place here |
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| 15:08.59 | bbrazil | hytt: don't nother with slay. 'pkill -u user' does the same thing |
| 15:09.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=gnu.ethz.ch |
| 15:09.05 | dvm1981 | little bit confission with the word 'hacker', curently readin 'Linux Server hacks by O'Reilly' |
| 15:09.06 | N0S3 | I need some client msn that he/she runs as demon, and that it captures the received messages , and it stores them |
| 15:09.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're such a dork :) |
| 15:09.36 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: thehe. and i've got the cd-rom and 9gb scsi disk for the quadra now :) |
| 15:09.43 | asg | N0S3: use bitlbee + irssi-text (IM -> irc gateway) |
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| 15:10.21 | RelAj0 | how can i tell if im running x.org or xserver-x11 ? |
| 15:10.25 | dvm1981 | Great book, good afternoon everybody, by |
| 15:10.26 | asg | RelAj0: X --version |
| 15:10.37 | Leonardo | ext3 or reisefers for instalation? |
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| 15:10.41 | asg | RelAj0: X -version rather |
| 15:10.41 | N0S3 | asg: ok... I will discover, and I comment you |
| 15:11.13 | RelAj0 | asg let me check it |
| 15:11.36 | asg | RelAj0: if the version number is 6.8.x, then xorg, if 4.3.x, then xfree |
| 15:11.59 | hytt | bbrazil> right, pkill too |
| 15:12.04 | hytt | :) |
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| 15:12.20 | norskfjord | how do I update my kernel? |
| 15:12.22 | norskfjord | I forget |
| 15:12.30 | RelAj0 | asg thanks a lot it says 6.8.2 |
| 15:12.30 | justStormY | hey i would to install debain and later make a bootable disc iof it - how is with the hardware compatibility when i use the live disk in other systems? |
| 15:12.35 | norskfjord | apt-get install kernel- something |
| 15:12.36 | asg | RelAj0: then xorg. |
| 15:12.41 | GNU_ | i have installed debian sarge 3.1, on nvidia box cant have X |
| 15:12.46 | norskfjord | I wanna get 2.6.8 |
| 15:12.47 | GNU_ | plz help me it is urgent |
| 15:13.01 | asg | !hurry |
| 15:13.01 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
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| 15:13.12 | relajo__ | asg thanks a lot it says 6.8.2 |
| 15:13.24 | asg | GNU_: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 15:13.48 | justStormY | !help |
| 15:13.50 | Leonardo | ext3 is best who reiserfs? |
| 15:14.03 | justStormY | hey i would to install debain and later make a bootable disc iof it - how is with the hardware compatibility when i use the live disk in other systems??? |
| 15:14.32 | norskfjord | !tell electron about kernel |
| 15:14.38 | norskfjord | !tell norskfjord about kernel |
| 15:14.42 | asg | justStormY: use bootcd to make your own live-cd. Hardware compatibility is that of the kernel you use. Otherwise, use knoppix or somesuch. |
| 15:15.05 | norskfjord | hmm, how do I update to 2.6.8? |
| 15:15.13 | norskfjord | pleaseee |
| 15:15.16 | amphi | Leonardo: reiser is probably faster, ext3 is probably more stable, 'best' is up to you ;) |
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| 15:15.35 | amphi | Leonardo: there are several other filesystems |
| 15:15.36 | justStormY | asg: that means? |
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| 15:16.06 | Leonardo | reiserfs for desktop and ext2 for corporation, ok? |
| 15:16.16 | norskfjord | !tell norskfjord about 2.6.8 |
| 15:16.30 | norskfjord | !tell norskfjord about kernel-update |
| 15:16.33 | loxley_ | norskfjord: yes. just apt-get it |
| 15:16.34 | amphi | Leonardo: I use xfs on my laptop at the moment |
| 15:16.38 | norskfjord | how? |
| 15:16.41 | adolfo | Estoy buscando ayuda en DEbian |
| 15:16.42 | asg | justStormY: compatibility will be fine as long as the other systems work with the kernel you use on the live-cd you build. |
| 15:16.51 | amphi | adolfo: #debian-es |
| 15:17.00 | Leonardo | what other good filesystems ? |
| 15:17.00 | norskfjord | loxley_, how do I do it for 2.6.8 |
| 15:17.06 | norskfjord | or list the kernel versions |
| 15:17.21 | asg | Leonardo: /msg dpkg fs comparison |
| 15:17.25 | justStormY | ok than it should be no problem to use the 2.4 kernel |
| 15:17.41 | adolfo | Compile el Kernel y no lo puedo instalar en el grub |
| 15:17.42 | asg | justStormY: no problem at all |
| 15:17.46 | asg | !tell adolfo about es |
| 15:17.54 | loxley_ | norskfjord: /msg dpkg apt-cache search |
| 15:18.20 | norskfjord | It's for my mate |
| 15:18.25 | norskfjord | he is using debian |
| 15:18.28 | norskfjord | I used ubuntu |
| 15:18.32 | norskfjord | so I can't really see |
| 15:18.33 | Leonardo | thanks |
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| 15:18.50 | theD3viL | Where in debian is modules autoload ? |
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| 15:19.37 | abrotman | tarzeau: did you get debian on it yet ? |
| 15:19.58 | norskfjord | how do I apt-get to update my kernel to 2.6.8 ? |
| 15:20.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: onto the quadra? nope, i just installed another debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 15:20.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: why?!!? |
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| 15:20.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'll build a new live cd based on gnu/kfreebsd |
| 15:20.20 | lestest | hi there ... what are channels in a audio file? |
| 15:20.22 | abrotman | tarzeau: yoe needs your buildd! |
| 15:20.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: because making livecds with knoppix or morphix is PITA |
| 15:20.36 | paivakil | norskfjord: apt-get installl <package> |
| 15:20.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: he didn't say he does. |
| 15:20.50 | abrotman | tarzeau: did you look at the etch RC list ? |
| 15:20.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: but if he does, i'll be glad to help , and even have it hosted |
| 15:21.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes i did, and it's not like i can save them alone |
| 15:21.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: did you buy your $20 mac yet? |
| 15:21.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: nah .. i'm gonna contact the local school i think |
| 15:21.39 | paivakil | norskfjord: it is apt-get install <package> |
| 15:22.07 | norskfjord | hello? |
| 15:22.24 | loxley_ | norskfjord: ffs shut up, you've got all the answers |
| 15:22.31 | norskfjord | paivakil, yes I know, but what is the package name for kernel 2.6.8-2-686 ? |
| 15:22.38 | norskfjord | I am not on the box at the moment |
| 15:22.53 | paivakil | apt-cache search 2.6.8 |
| 15:23.03 | adolfo | 2.6.8.14 |
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| 15:27.56 | norskfjord | I have a kernel-package_9.005_all.deb |
| 15:28.07 | norskfjord | can I update the kernel from that? |
| 15:28.38 | norskfjord | you're on dsl hey |
| 15:28.46 | norskfjord | didn't you get a usb cable with the modem? |
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| 15:32.11 | pcu | Since dist-upgrade in my debian unstable, I cannot change from X to consoles. Any idea on how to solve? |
| 15:32.47 | norskfjord | can 2.4.30 be recompiled to support Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet LANCE] (rev 10) so I can do modprobe lance |
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| 15:34.29 | N0S3 | asg: hello |
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| 15:35.20 | justStormY | mh can anybody tell me why i cant install debain netinst - he is getting no inet connection - but all configs are right |
| 15:35.52 | asg | N0S3: hello |
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| 15:38.19 | N0S3 | asg: does another client exist? single msn daemon? |
| 15:38.42 | asg | N0S3: not that I'm aware of. Jabber might be used perhaps but I'm not sure offhand. |
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| 15:39.05 | N0S3 | ahh |
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| 15:40.54 | frank_b | does anyone know where can I get a working debian testing CD 1 image? I tried to install one from the "official" mirror but it gave me an error about package depencies upon installing the base system... |
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| 15:41.48 | PerfDave | frank_b: Fix the errors? :) |
| 15:41.50 | asg | frank_b: just install stable and upgrade to testing |
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| 15:43.19 | frank_b | asg: I don't know how to get my USB modem working with an older kernel |
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| 15:43.32 | frank_b | PerfDave: nice option. how can I do it? |
| 15:43.34 | asg | frank_b: does sarge's 2.6.8 not work? |
| 15:43.58 | Dirus | something is stopping my remote vnc session from working, anyone know anything in sshd_config that might disable port forwarding? |
| 15:44.09 | Dirus | err port tunneling |
| 15:44.12 | PerfDave | frank_b: Hang on. You're installing *testing* because you want a more recent *kernel* than Sarge offers? |
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| 15:44.40 | ivalladt | Dirus: maybe the tcp connection is lost, try using a ssh keepalive |
| 15:44.46 | frank_b | asg: I read that for kernels older than 2.6.10 you have to recompile the kernel or something like that. I've search for instructions of how to install my modem in debian stable but couldn't find thenm |
| 15:45.09 | frank_b | PerfDave: yes. because that way it will be easier to install my miodem |
| 15:45.11 | asg | frank_b: oh, okay. |
| 15:45.30 | PerfDave | frank_b: So why not... use a more recent kernel with Stable? |
| 15:46.22 | PerfDave | Or, y'know, just recompile your kernel. It would probably be easier than running testing :) |
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| 15:46.44 | frank_b | PerfDave: I just checked for the first time a mirror that had kernels and I saw the word "patch" in them... but I never installed a new one. is it a easy thing to do? |
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| 15:47.21 | frank_b | PerfDave: but how? I can't get instuctions on how to do that in order to install my modem.. |
| 15:47.39 | PerfDave | frank_b: TBH, installing a more recent kernel on Stable will probably involve recompiling anyway, so you might as well recompile your kernel to support your modem. |
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| 15:47.42 | l3m | since i've updated my sid today many apps crash somewhere in libthread |
| 15:47.46 | l3m | anby ideas how to fix this? |
| 15:47.58 | frank_b | PerfDave: hmm |
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| 15:48.25 | PerfDave | frank_b: Unless someone's already backported a kernel-image to stable - /msg dpkg stable |
| 15:48.32 | azeem | l3m: when did you last update? |
| 15:48.44 | Dirus | ivalladt, that didn't seem to do it either |
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| 15:48.53 | frank_b | PerfDave: well, I plen on upgrading it to testing anyway because of xorg and amule, the simplest way to do it would be to just install this one |
| 15:49.06 | frank_b | (testing) |
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| 15:49.40 | PerfDave | frank_b: You can also run xorg in Stable, I have no idea about amule. It just seems to me that you're not particularly familiar with Debian and/or Linux in general, so if I were you I'd learn to walk before you run :) |
| 15:50.11 | Trewas | testing is currently in pretty bad shape because of various transitions and removed packages |
| 15:50.11 | frank_b | PerfDave: :) yes, I'm new to linux... |
| 15:50.31 | PerfDave | Then again, compiling your own kernel probably counts as running. But that's what happens when people buy hardware that isn't easily supported by Linux, I guess. |
| 15:50.45 | frank_b | PerfDave: xorg can mess up your system, I've heard... |
| 15:50.53 | PerfDave | frank_b: So why do you want to run it? |
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| 15:51.19 | frank_b | PerfDave: "run it"? |
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| 15:51.35 | PerfDave | frank_b: Why do you want to run xorg, if you've heard that it can mess up your system? |
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| 15:52.22 | frank_b | PerfDave: I want to run it in testing, not in stable. because it's better than xfree86 |
| 15:52.37 | sandman | Why do I get this for all my packages in aptitude?: WARNING: This version of <whatever package> is from an untrusted . |
| 15:52.39 | riddley | I'm trying to upgrade a recently-installed Debian system to 2.6.14. Root is in LVM and I'm having a heck of a time getting mkinitrd to use udev rather than devfs.. I've done some searching but can't find the trick, is there one? |
| 15:52.47 | stew | sandman: /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 15:52.55 | enveezee | frank_b: what is it you like better? |
| 15:52.57 | PerfDave | frank_b: "better" how? |
| 15:53.00 | frank_b | PerfDave: it can mess up your stable version, not tsting |
| 15:53.03 | l3m | azzem 4 hours ago or so |
| 15:53.09 | enveezee | PerfDave: :) |
| 15:53.23 | PerfDave | frank_b: Running testing can mess up your system. Rarely badly, but probably worse than you seem capable of dealing with. |
| 15:53.26 | azeem | l3m: eh, and again now, and it was fine then and breaks now? |
| 15:53.35 | riddley | I'm using Sarge too, so there's no package for yaird, if that's the answer :) |
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| 15:54.34 | frank_b | PerfDave: hmm. my thing with xorg is that xfree86 doesn't have a driver for my graphic card, but that can be solved. my main issue is with amule. I've read amule 2.0.3 exists in testing |
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| 15:55.05 | PerfDave | frank_b: What graphics card do you have? |
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| 15:55.26 | frank_b | PerfDave: an ATI Radeon 9250 SE 128 MB |
| 15:55.43 | PerfDave | frank_b: I don't see why that wouldn't work with xfree86 in Sarge. |
| 15:55.52 | PerfDave | frank_b: Any software from testing can be backported to Stable anyway. |
| 15:55.56 | l3m | azeem: ah no, i updated 4 hours ago, and before that like 2 months ago |
| 15:56.05 | stew | frank_b: xfree and xorg have virtually the same ati driver which had 3d support for 9200se |
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| 15:56.40 | l3m | and since the update today konqui, firefox and other apps crash ... backtrace shows it crashed inside libthread |
| 15:56.46 | frank_b | stew: yes, fglrx. |
| 15:56.49 | azeem | l3m: libthread? |
| 15:57.01 | azeem | l3m: what's the exact line? |
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| 15:57.47 | justStormY | how can i see if a gateway added? |
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| 15:58.05 | pureone | route -n |
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| 15:59.30 | sandman | I don't get this. |
| 16:00.03 | norskfjord | sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies |
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| 16:00.07 | norskfjord | -bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies: Permission denied |
| 16:00.11 | norskfjord | whats going on? |
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| 16:00.20 | azeem | norskfjord: sudo doesn't work for that |
| 16:00.38 | bibe | norskfjord : you have to do 'echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies' |
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| 16:01.11 | norskfjord | I just logged in as root |
| 16:01.12 | frank_b | PerfDave: my biggest problem with stable in on how to get my SpeedTouch modem working. with testing I wouldn't have to recompile the kernel and I know of instructions on how to get it working. do you think that (I can only try next month becasue of download limits I have) next month the official testing mirror will have an image that works? that they will solve the problem by then? |
| 16:01.27 | norskfjord | so what should stop me from getting DoS attacked? |
| 16:01.39 | justStormY | can anybody help? i have edited my inet adress and the subnet - now i should be able to ping other users in the net or? |
| 16:02.47 | stew | frank_b: no not fglrx, "radeon" |
| 16:02.54 | valdyn | justStormY: hosts can be pinged, not users |
| 16:03.03 | justStormY | i mean that |
| 16:03.07 | frank_b | stew: or that, yes. but fglrx works better |
| 16:03.07 | justStormY | but i can't ping |
| 16:03.14 | bibe | justStormY : how did you 'edit' your inet parameters? |
| 16:03.26 | justStormY | i have the new netins and filled out all options |
| 16:03.29 | justStormY | then i boot up |
| 16:03.36 | stew | frank_b: don't know, never tried it, the built in one is great. |
| 16:03.39 | justStormY | but apt cant get a connection |
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| 16:03.52 | resiak | bibe: That's _such_ a nice hack (sudo tee). Thanks. |
| 16:03.55 | justStormY | i tried to ping the new debian machine but it also doesnt work |
| 16:04.08 | bibe | resiak : ;) |
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| 16:04.22 | justStormY | ifconfig says that ip and subnet is ok |
| 16:04.36 | stew | frank_b: i just don't know why you would say "xfree86 doesn't have a driver for my graphic card", becuase it does, (and you seem to know about it even) |
| 16:04.39 | PerfDave | frank_b: Does http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/speedtouch not do what you want in Stable? |
| 16:04.40 | justStormY | nee really help, it's important |
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| 16:05.14 | valdyn | stew: he probably doesnt ,since fglrx is neither part of xfree86 nor xorg |
| 16:05.34 | stew | valdyn: it does, radeon is part of both and has good 3d support without needing a non-free driver |
| 16:06.09 | valdyn | stew: true, he said fglrx though |
| 16:06.10 | stew | valdyn: oh, "he probably doesnt", but he said, "or that, yes. but fglrx works better" |
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| 16:06.21 | valdyn | stew: yea, confusing, sorry |
| 16:06.31 | stew | valdyn: yeah, whoknows |
| 16:06.41 | frank_b | PerfDave: I don't think so. since I've heard that in order to get it working you have to recompile the kernel. I think that package is just for "controling" or "supervising" your connection.. |
| 16:06.59 | frank_b | PerfDave: I think I've tried it in ubuntu or something |
| 16:07.06 | justStormY | nobody can help? |
| 16:07.16 | valdyn | frank_b: recompiling your kernel is ( in some circles ) even the cure for cancer, doesnt means you need to do it though |
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| 16:07.25 | PerfDave | frank_b: The package description says that it contains a user-space driver. |
| 16:09.08 | frank_b | PerfDave: don't know what that means... "user-space"... |
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| 16:09.44 | PerfDave | frank_b: Never mind. I found http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/docs/sargehowto.html which is a Sarge HOWTO and recommends recompiling your kernel. It's also out of date; the kernel config for the standard Debian 2.6.8 kernel seems to include everything you need for your Speedtouch. |
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| 16:11.09 | frank_b | stew: I didn't know "radeon" existed for xfree. I can get my graphic card working with xorg-based distros, but not with xfree ones. working fine that is. with a proper driver. debian stable say it doesn't have one for my particular atri card. just for other radeons... |
| 16:11.11 | Miesco | Whats a SVGA PDF viewer? |
| 16:11.20 | abrotman | xpdf |
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| 16:11.45 | valdyn | Miesco: why the hell SVGA ? |
| 16:11.48 | PerfDave | abrotman: I think Miesco is being weird and running a SVGA framebuffer instead of using X. |
| 16:12.24 | abrotman | he's been doing weird stuff since yesterday |
| 16:13.00 | frank_b | PerfDave: that was the only one I founf also. I was incomplete and doesn't exist anymore, only in google's cache or something. are you sure that I wont' have to recompile stable's kernel then? |
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| 16:13.34 | PerfDave | frank_b: No, I'm not sure. But it looks worth a go. Install stable with a 2.6 kernel, follow the rest of the instructions, and see if it works. |
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| 16:13.52 | Miesco | You would to if your computer was as slow as mine |
| 16:13.52 | frank_b | stew: maybe that's why ubuntu installs me one called "ati" and not "radeon"... |
| 16:14.06 | valdyn | Miesco: nope, SVGA is NEVER faster than X |
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| 16:14.25 | Miesco | Yea it is, for me |
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| 16:15.02 | frank_b | PerfDave: I don't know. I'll thing about it. I'm getting tired of all the problems with just getting my computer working decently in linux. thanks for your help |
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| 16:15.37 | PerfDave | frank_b: I find a little forethought avoids these problems neatly. I rarely have any trouble getting stuff to work in Linux :) |
| 16:15.50 | frank_b | PerfDave: getting tired of reinstalling and repartitinin everything, eveytime I have to try another distro, that is... |
| 16:15.53 | valdyn | stew: ati "supports" radeon by falling back on using that driver when needed |
| 16:16.00 | valdyn | frank_b: ati "supports" radeon by falling back on using that driver when needed |
| 16:16.08 | Miesco | valdyn: It takes like 10 seconds for the menu to come up when I click on the KDE icon at the bottom left |
| 16:16.32 | valdyn | Miesco: so you're running KDE in your framebuffer? dare to even guess its speed then? |
| 16:16.48 | abrotman | i still don't understand why he's running it the way he is |
| 16:16.50 | GloX | try a lighter wm :) |
| 16:16.50 | Miesco | Im not running KDE in my framebuffer |
| 16:16.51 | stew | frank_b: i doubt that ubuntu removed the radeon driver from xorg |
| 16:17.14 | Miesco | Im not evening using any framebuffer |
| 16:17.25 | PerfDave | frank_b: Nobody's forcing you to try multiple distros :) |
| 16:17.57 | Miesco | valdyn: My computer is just super slow, 800mgz |
| 16:18.00 | valdyn | Miesco: use a lightweight window manager, like uh, fluxbox, evilwm, ion3 or fwvm, whatever |
| 16:18.01 | Ronin | he i love my users |
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| 16:18.13 | Miesco | valdyn: Good idea |
| 16:18.18 | PerfDave | Hang on, Miesco's got an 800MHz computer, and that's "super slow"? *boggle* |
| 16:18.19 | Miesco | valdyn: THANK YOU |
| 16:18.24 | frank_b | PerfDave: hehe :) yes.. but I like the free software idea and would like to have linux installed |
| 16:18.37 | Miesco | PerfDave: Yea, it is |
| 16:18.43 | PerfDave | KDE should be fine on a 300MHz Pentium III. There's something else the matter with Miesco's PC. |
| 16:18.59 | PerfDave | Miesco: Uhm, sorry, I think that's faster than every computer I've ever owned bar one :) |
| 16:19.15 | valdyn | Miesco: the truth is probably that you have few RAM and kde gets really slow since parts of it are being swapped out. |
| 16:19.22 | Miesco | PerfDave: Well miesco's PC is a celeron |
| 16:19.23 | PerfDave | frank_b: I didn't say you shouldn't install Linux, but there's no need to install a different distro every five minutes :) |
| 16:19.28 | PerfDave | Miesco: And? |
| 16:19.39 | Miesco | valdyn: I got like 256mb ram |
| 16:19.40 | K_Dallas | PerfDave, that would be fine tho ;) |
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| 16:19.45 | K_Dallas | fun* |
| 16:19.59 | frank_b | stew: don't know. that's one doubt I have. I read that the radeon graphic cards driver for xorg, I think, is one called "radeon". yet ubuntu installs me one called "ati" |
| 16:20.02 | Miesco | valdyn: How do I check how much ram I have? |
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| 16:20.06 | valdyn | Miesco: that might be low for KDE, i dont know , i dont use it |
| 16:20.10 | Miesco | PerfDave: So it should not be this slow? |
| 16:20.10 | Ronin | Miesco: you dont know? |
| 16:20.14 | PerfDave | I've run Debian, X and KDE on significantly lower-spec systems than an 800MHz Celeron III with 256Mb RAM, with no problems. |
| 16:20.24 | valdyn | Miesco: 'free' |
| 16:20.44 | PerfDave | Miesco: No, it really shouldn't be. I've used a 300MHz PIII with 64Mb RAM as a Debian desktop with KDE with no significant speed issues. |
| 16:21.19 | Miesco | PerfDave: Maybe its my graphic controller? |
| 16:21.23 | stew | frank_b: there are two drivers in xorg, ati and radeon. but forget it, i cannot figure you out, you say xorg screws up your system but you want to install xorg becuase xfree doens't have a driver for your card, but it does and you know this, but there isn't a driver in the ubuntu package and i have no idea why we are even talking about ubuntu... so forget it |
| 16:21.51 | PerfDave | Miesco: I doubt it'd be that slow even using the vesa driver. What graphics card do you have? |
| 16:21.57 | amphi | Miesco: debian ran well on my old 266MHz 32MB ram |
| 16:22.01 | frank_b | stew: just read what you said earlier, sorry. you say "ati" is a second option after "radeon"... |
| 16:22.12 | Miesco | PerfDave: Trident Microsystem Bladerunner i1 |
| 16:22.26 | Miesco | amphi: KDE? |
| 16:22.44 | Dirus | what's weird is that the tunneled ports act like they are open but they are just closing connections the second they get them |
| 16:22.47 | Miesco | PerfDave: It was WAY slower with Vesa |
| 16:22.56 | PerfDave | Miesco: Never heard of it, is it ISA or something? |
| 16:23.21 | amphi | Miesco: of course not |
| 16:23.26 | Miesco | PerfDave: I dont know, it came with my toshiba laptop, vesa is also slow |
| 16:23.27 | frank_b | stew: let's see if I can get myself understood: 1st, the part about xorg messing up my system is about installing it in debian stable... |
| 16:23.46 | Miesco | amphi: of course not, you didn't use KDE? |
| 16:23.52 | PerfDave | Miesco: Have you looked up your Toshiba laptop on linux-laptops.net or tuxmobil.org? |
| 16:24.03 | Miesco | PerfDave: Yes |
| 16:24.17 | amphi | Miesco: of course I didn't - I don't anyway, but obviously not with 32MB ram |
| 16:24.28 | amphi | Miesco: have you looked at man trident? |
| 16:24.36 | Miesco | amphi: Yes |
| 16:24.58 | Miesco | PerfDave: I got someone's XF86Config-4 file with the exact same model as my computer, exact same computer |
| 16:25.00 | PerfDave | Miesco: Did you try using the "trident" driver for X? |
| 16:25.03 | frank_b | stew: 2nd, the reason I want a xorg-based distro is because xfree ones don't seem to support my particular radeon card, just other radeons... |
| 16:25.16 | Miesco | PerfDave: Thats what was in the XF8 config file |
| 16:25.30 | bibe | frank_b : to me, it seems very odd, your relatively old video card is working properly under x.org but not under xfree86... |
| 16:25.41 | PerfDave | Miesco: You do realise that you shouldn't just copy other people's config files over yours? It's liable to break stuff. |
| 16:26.00 | SimonRaven | bibe: not really, if it's ati-based |
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| 16:26.46 | stew | frank_b: you are wrong about that. xfree and xorg both support 9200se well right out of the box |
| 16:26.47 | Miesco | PerfDave: It was slow when I configed it with vesa from xserver-xfree86 configuration program |
| 16:26.59 | MASoft | How can I install JAVA for Firefox ? is there any package in Debian ? |
| 16:27.02 | PerfDave | Miesco: So don't do that. |
| 16:27.07 | PerfDave | MASoft: /msg dpkg java licensing |
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| 16:27.16 | PerfDave | MASoft: /msg dpkg java |
| 16:27.22 | Miesco | PerfDave: Im not, im using Trident |
| 16:27.34 | PerfDave | Miesco: xfree86 with trident? |
| 16:27.46 | PerfDave | Miesco: BTW, /msg dpkg x md5sum |
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| 16:27.56 | frank_b | stew: sorry for the confusion... yes... it's not worth to talk more about it anyway... mayber I expressed mysefl wrong |
| 16:27.58 | Miesco | PerfDave: not the trident option in the config thing |
| 16:28.03 | bibe | SimonRaven : I have set up a few laptops and desktops with different ati cards... and I have never found an x.org supported card which isn't supported also by xfree86 |
| 16:28.17 | PerfDave | Miesco: It's possible that selecting the "trident" driver in with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" wasn't having any effect if you've been copying files over each other. |
| 16:28.28 | Miesco | PerfDave: I took his config file and I edit it |
| 16:28.44 | frank_b | stew: then how comes debian stable doesn't? I have to install a mesa driver in order to have x working |
| 16:28.51 | SimonRaven | bibe: not "not supported by xfree86" but "better supported by xorg" kind of thing |
| 16:29.01 | neorisc | can someone help me ? I am trying to install the creative ensoniq 1371 driver for my sound card but it wont load |
| 16:29.15 | bibe | SimonRaven : ah ok |
| 16:29.22 | Miesco | PerfDave: getting that xf86config file was the last thing I have done, I did the trident thing before |
| 16:29.35 | PerfDave | Miesco: Wait a minute. Back up. Start from scratch. Try xfree86 with the trident driver, by resetting the md5sum on the config file and doing "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and selecting "trident". |
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| 16:30.28 | Miesco | PerfDave: I did that, it wont work with that, it just gives me an error.. |
| 16:30.31 | bibe | MASoft : are you using sarge, etch or sid? In sid you can use gcjwebplugin, restart firefox and you have free java support |
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| 16:30.49 | Miesco | PerfDave: Althought, I thnk it was because I didn't have the right mouse driver, now that I think about it |
| 16:30.51 | PerfDave | Miesco: What error? |
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| 16:30.55 | frank_b | stew: I can't remember now which I tried first in debian... it was one called either "ati" or "radeon", that seemed to be the proper one for my card. but when I booted I couldn't get x working, so I checked a list of supported cards for that driver and it had several radeons but not mine |
| 16:31.05 | PerfDave | Miesco: *headsmack* |
| 16:31.12 | Miesco | PerfDave: Okay I'll go try it |
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| 16:31.20 | PerfDave | Miesco: Look, just give up on your SVGA thing, and get X working properly. It'll save everybody hassle ;) |
| 16:31.40 | Miesco | PerfDave: Wait, how fast is okay for X |
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| 16:32.16 | PerfDave | Miesco: What do you mean, "how fast is OK"? |
| 16:32.18 | Qiang | quick question, how do you find out how the package is ./configure after you install it with apt-get ? i have to manually build the package(make and such) if i want to add other configuration to the package? |
| 16:33.11 | MASoft | bibe, I use Sarge ! I couldn't find this package :D |
| 16:33.26 | PerfDave | Qiang: Some programs have command-line parameters to show their configuration / compilation options. Others don't. Whether you need to recompile or not depends on the package and what you're trying to do with it. |
| 16:33.35 | PerfDave | Qiang: But on the whole, it's unlikely. |
| 16:33.35 | resiak | MASoft: Hence why he said "In Sid" |
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| 16:34.18 | resiak | \o/ |
| 16:34.21 | Miesco | PerfDave: It takes like 2 seconds for the menu to come up on the KDE icon at the bottom left, and like a minute for openoffice writer ro load |
| 16:34.21 | Qiang | PerfDave: thanks for the info. ;-) |
| 16:34.25 | resiak | Another clued-in person bites the dus. |
| 16:34.49 | MASoft | resiak, what can I do in Sarge ?! |
| 16:34.56 | resiak | MASoft: /msg dpkg java !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:35.04 | MASoft | resiak, I did ! |
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| 16:35.11 | resiak | MASoft: Do what it says? |
| 16:35.24 | frank_b | bibe: I heard that it was the xfree's guys fault. they don't seem to have included my card yet |
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| 16:36.29 | bibe | frank_b : hence I'd suggest you to use debian testing, and not x.org backported to sarge |
| 16:36.34 | MASoft | resiak, is it contains a Plugin for Firefox ?! |
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| 16:36.55 | MASoft | resiak, it's just about installing JDK |
| 16:37.29 | bibe | MASoft : installing jdk and symlinking the plugin into /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ |
| 16:37.41 | resiak | MASoft: /msg dpkg firefox java |
| 16:37.43 | frank_b | bibe: yes, that's the reason I came here. I tried that but the image I downloaded yesterday wasn't functioning. It gave an error about package dependencies upon installing the base system... |
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| 16:39.07 | id_ | hi - is there a immutable flag for directories ? |
| 16:39.14 | thingfish | !java-package |
| 16:39.14 | dpkg | somebody said java-package was a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 16:39.26 | id_ | chattr +i dirname does not work |
| 16:39.33 | JohnnyST | Is nforce3 chipset supported in the sarge installer? |
| 16:39.35 | bibe | frank_b : nightly builds are not 100% reliable. You can install a sarge base system, choosing testing repositories during apt configuration, then apt-get dist-upgrade and start adding the packages you want |
| 16:39.56 | frank_b | bibe: I think I know how to get my graphic card working in xfree... with a driver called "fglrx"... but that's not the main isse... my two main issues are about gatting my SpeedTouch modem working and beeing able to use amule 2.0.3... I can do both in testing but don't know how to in stable |
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| 16:41.14 | bibe | frank_b : so dist-upgrade to testing |
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| 16:42.11 | frank_b | bibe: yes... but how do I get my modem working in stable. I can't find instructions on howto... just some old and incomplete ones... |
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| 16:43.47 | tuulroy | I just upgraded a kernel to kernel-image-2.6-686, and the system reboots spontaneously. I've got the system back up on the old kernel for now, but I'm having trouble with smb mounts, and I think it is a kernel problem. Any Ideas that might help me? |
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| 16:44.32 | cahoot | tuulroy: what cpu do you have? |
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| 16:44.53 | tuulroy | pentium, 200mhz |
| 16:45.08 | bibe | frank_b : is that modem the only way for you to get that system connected to the internet? |
| 16:45.32 | cahoot | tuulroy: I doubt a 686 kernel will work on that |
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| 16:45.35 | frank_b | bibe: yes... |
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| 16:46.09 | tuulroy | thanks, cahoot, do you know what kernel I should install? |
| 16:46.24 | cahoot | tuulroy: I suppose a 386 |
| 16:46.31 | pusling | is there a way to see what gcc is used to compile a .so-file ? |
| 16:46.46 | bibe | frank_b : sorry but I don't have much experience with modems, and no experience at all with that kind of modem |
| 16:46.49 | stew | tuulroy: 686 is only for pentium pro or better, use 386 |
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| 16:47.13 | frank_b | bibe: and the "funnies" part is that I have a 2 GB monthly international download limit in my ISP, and I spent around 700 MB already downloading and non-functioning testing image.. |
| 16:47.17 | wwallace_lap | hello to all |
| 16:47.19 | frank_b | funniest |
| 16:47.20 | tuulroy | ok thanks again, cahoot and stew. |
| 16:47.31 | frank_b | bibe: funniest, I ment |
| 16:47.50 | frank_b | bibe: yes... thanks anyway |
| 16:47.56 | wwallace_lap | how do i install dvdrip ? deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main doesnt work? |
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| 16:48.07 | ealm | are there net install CD's supporting reiser4 yet? |
| 16:48.08 | azeem | !marillat |
| 16:48.08 | dpkg | somebody said marillat was an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 16:48.20 | takatumi | frank_b: so nothing left for amule eh? ;-/ |
| 16:48.38 | wwallace_lap | i didnt ask about marillat |
| 16:48.49 | wwallace_lap | i just want to install advd ripper for debian |
| 16:49.21 | too-quick | i have been trying to read up on how to set up a MTA and a few sites tell me to test it after i set it up by doing mail -s "blah blah blah" but mail -s is not an option on my box...anyone know what i need to make 'mail' work? |
| 16:49.46 | bibe | frank_b : did you download an entire CD? |
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| 16:50.04 | frank_b | bibe: yes |
| 16:50.57 | too-quick | i guess a better way to phrase that is 'mail' is not a command on my computer anyone know what i need to make it work? |
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| 16:51.47 | Roxport | I finally got sarge up and running. I got a question about dhclient. |
| 16:51.53 | frank_b | takatumi: :) I have almost 2 DVDs worth of data waiting in the backups to be completed in amule... :) |
| 16:52.24 | wake | too-quick: run "find / -regex ".*mail.*" | less" and look for mail - the mail program may be in a dir that is not in your path |
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| 16:52.36 | Roxport | i want to send a hostname to the dhcp server (wireless router). do i do that in the dhclient.conf file? |
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| 16:52.45 | too-quick | wake, ok ill try it thanks |
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| 16:53.44 | Roxport | i want to tell the dchp server on my wireless router that my hostname is "blah...". right now, the router shows it as (null) |
| 16:53.49 | takatumi | frank_b: what's wrong with the CD image you downloaded? with the whole CD, you could get through the install without the modem. |
| 16:54.07 | Miesco | Okay I did it |
| 16:54.32 | Miesco | Still slow though |
| 16:54.57 | frank_b | takatumi: I have a functiniong stable image, but the testing one I downloaded yesterday gives me an error about package dependencies upon installing the base system... |
| 16:54.57 | Miesco | Whats a lightweight desktop environment? |
| 16:55.08 | ealm | are there net install CD's supporting reiser4 yet? |
| 16:55.13 | Roxport | nevermind. i got it (dhclient.conf manpage) |
| 16:55.30 | bibe | takatumi : etch images are not 100% reliable, probably frank_b downloaded a not-functioning cd image |
| 16:55.44 | Miesco | Whats a fast desktop environment? |
| 16:55.53 | bibe | Miesco : fluxbox |
| 16:56.04 | Miesco | bibe: Is that the best one? |
| 16:56.19 | bibe | well, speaking properly it's a window manager |
| 16:56.20 | justStormY | llutz: nu gehts hab den 2.6er kernel geladen |
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| 16:56.49 | valdyn | Miesco: tried xfce? |
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| 16:57.00 | bibe | Miesco : it's very fast, if you ask 10 people what's the _best_ desktop environment you'll probably get 11 different answers |
| 16:57.09 | sandman | When I run dchroot -d <some command> I still get errors about not being able to open display |
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| 16:57.18 | Miesco | valdyn: No |
| 16:57.26 | valdyn | !xfce |
| 16:57.26 | dpkg | i heard xfce is a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. http://www.xfce.org/ . Sarge : apt-get install xfce4 Woody : apt-get install xfce |
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| 16:57.53 | bibe | sandman : are you running that command as root? |
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| 16:58.24 | takatumi | frank_b: looked at http://christophe.delord.free.fr/en/adsl/index.html ? |
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| 16:58.39 | valdyn | Miesco: on the other hand: using konqueror w/ kde is probably less memory hungry than mozilla-firefox + any ( even the smallest ) wm |
| 16:58.55 | frank_b | takatumi: no, I'll cjeck it. thanks |
| 16:58.59 | too-quick | wake, if I couldnt find it is there i way I can get it? |
| 16:59.17 | Miesco | valdyn: I only see xfce4 |
| 16:59.20 | too-quick | all i found was sendmail versions like xmail and qmail and stuff |
| 16:59.38 | valdyn | Miesco: well, try if it suits you |
| 16:59.49 | wake | too-quick: i believe mail is installed in the base package, so i'm not sure what to do if you can't find it |
| 17:00.06 | dio | any other than iperf and pchar that u recomend that i can test a wan... ? |
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| 17:00.07 | valdyn | !find bin/mail |
| 17:00.16 | too-quick | wake, ok thanks ill look it up |
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| 17:00.32 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/mail' (9 of 43): (/usr/bin/mailp) in text/mp ;; (/usr/sbin/mailer) in admin/john ;; (/usr/bin/mailrm) in mail/masqmail ;; (/usr/bin/mailto) in mail/metamail ;; (/usr/bin/mail.local) in net/ktalkd ;; (/usr/bin/mailsync) in mail/mailsync ;; (/usr/bin/mailleds) in mail/mailleds ;; (/usr/bin/mailstat) in mail/procmail ;; (/usr/bin/mailcheck) in mail/mailcheck. |
| 17:00.48 | petemc | its in mailx |
| 17:00.53 | sandman | bibe: No |
| 17:00.55 | too-quick | k ill check thanks |
| 17:01.11 | Miesco | valdyn: Is xfce4 the same WM? |
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| 17:01.20 | sandman | bibe: I'm running it as a normal user. I just want to make the freeciv I installed in a chroot to appear in my non-chroot x session |
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| 17:01.27 | Jacky^ | hi |
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| 17:01.58 | Jacky^ | anyone know an easy web page editor to use in order to create personal home page ? |
| 17:01.59 | bibe | sandman : did you run 'xhost +' as your "normal" user, then exporting the DISPLAY variable in the chrooted environment? |
| 17:02.00 | frank_b | takatumi: if it's the one I'm thinking, I've read somewhere of a guy who was having problems installing in debian... and I don't like the script idea. I prefer to know what I am doing so that I can undoit it if anytthing goes wrong |
| 17:02.02 | valdyn | Miesco: yea, try xfce4, it is only numbered to tell it apart from xfce version 3 which is packaged in 'xfce' |
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| 17:02.25 | sandman | bibe: dchroot -d carries my environmental vars to the chroot |
| 17:02.33 | Jacky^ | assuming i don't know html language |
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| 17:03.09 | too-quick | valdyn, i dont see mailx either...any other ideas? |
| 17:03.18 | samuel | is there a page where i can find news on new programs? like reviews and the like? |
| 17:03.22 | bibe | sandman : but did you 'xhost +' from outside the chroot? |
| 17:03.24 | valdyn | too-quick: apt-get install mailx |
| 17:03.28 | too-quick | k |
| 17:03.35 | Fleck | what i need to do to install kdelibs4 ? |
| 17:03.44 | sandman | bibe: No |
| 17:03.47 | valdyn | samuel: google |
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| 17:04.01 | bibe | sandman : try |
| 17:04.09 | fistz | hi. |
| 17:04.19 | valdyn | Fleck: run apt-get install kdelibs4 ? or is this a trick question? |
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| 17:04.41 | Fleck | valdyn The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 17:04.41 | Fleck | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.41 | Fleck | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.07 | valdyn | Fleck: oh , you're not using debian/stable? touch luck |
| 17:05.09 | sandman | bibe: Done. Still fails |
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| 17:05.24 | bibe | sandman : what is the exact error? |
| 17:05.25 | too-quick | valdyn, thanks it works fine now |
| 17:05.30 | too-quick | wake, thanks also |
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| 17:05.36 | Ange1 | hi |
| 17:05.36 | Ange1 | which ftp server i better fo security speed an realiability proftp or vsftp |
| 17:05.56 | takatumi | frank_b: google some more is all I can suggest, no idea with that modem, I do have one of those lying around, heard it's a pain, didn't even try. |
| 17:05.57 | Fleck | valdyn using stable ... |
| 17:06.04 | Ange1 | which ftp server is better for security speed an realiability proftp or vsftp |
| 17:06.04 | wake | too-quick: np, have fun with it |
| 17:06.09 | valdyn | Fleck: no you arent |
| 17:06.59 | Fleck | valdyn so i need to downgrade? |
| 17:07.13 | valdyn | !info libarts1 sarge |
| 17:07.17 | Fubarovic | can't i export LVM volumes? |
| 17:07.20 | valdyn | !downgrade |
| 17:07.21 | dpkg | [downgrade] not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
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| 17:08.23 | dpkg | libarts1: (aRts Sound system), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 1113 kB, Installed size: 4456 kB |
| 17:08.24 | takatumi | Ange1: for security, stay away from ftp. |
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| 17:08.49 | valdyn | Fleck: what are you really running? |
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| 17:09.01 | novent93 | Ange1, how many concurrent connections on average do you plan on having ... and yes ftp is just not safe during transfer |
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| 17:09.44 | stew | !info libarts1 stable |
| 17:09.48 | dpkg | libarts1: (aRts Sound system), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 1113 kB, Installed size: 4456 kB |
| 17:09.50 | Roxport | how to set time on debian? |
| 17:09.52 | stew | Fleck: you must not be running stable |
| 17:10.07 | stew | Fleck: otherwise libarts1 1.3.2-3 would be installable |
| 17:10.12 | mtnman | roxport: well, ntpdate is good. you can also run ntpd. |
| 17:10.13 | wake | Roxport: date (be sure to read the man page) |
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| 17:10.28 | Ryushin | What is the correct way to "automount" network file shares in debian on bootup? I need to mount a cifs file share on boot up. |
| 17:10.31 | sandman | bibe: You still there? |
| 17:10.40 | valdyn | Ryushin: /etc/fstab |
| 17:10.43 | Roxport | thknsk |
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| 17:11.43 | sandman | _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6000: Name or service not known |
| 17:11.48 | Ryushin | valdyn: It doesn't mount it on boot. The network isn't up before fstab is processed. |
| 17:11.59 | valdyn | Ryushin: nonsense |
| 17:12.00 | stew | sandman: do you have localhost in /etc/hosts? |
| 17:12.01 | sandman | Then it says (civclient:11575): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 17:12.12 | stew | Ryushin: fix your networking then |
| 17:12.18 | sandman | stew: Yes. |
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| 17:12.43 | stew | sandman: do you actually have something listening on :6000? /msg dpkg open ports |
| 17:12.48 | labandus | hi |
| 17:12.50 | stew | sandman: what are you trying to do, anyway? |
| 17:13.10 | labandus | how can i mount a new partition in Linux |
| 17:13.34 | mtnman | labandus: use the "mount" command or edit /etc/fstab |
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| 17:13.59 | sploenni__ | hi@all |
| 17:14.10 | Roxport | how to set time using timeserver? |
| 17:14.11 | CAiRO | wow, the firefox package has almost 500 bugs assigned.. why aren't they fixed? |
| 17:14.21 | labandus | mtnman, how can i use "mount" ? |
| 17:14.31 | justStormY | llutz: welche oberfläche kannst mir empfehlen? |
| 17:14.41 | mtnman | labandus: man mount for details. |
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| 17:14.49 | poncha|work | i am trying to open an ssh tunnel from *remote* box to one in my local subnet... but somehow i cant make remote box bind on anything but 127.0.0.1 :( |
| 17:14.54 | mtnman | roxport: man ntpdate |
| 17:14.54 | sploenni__ | is there already a fglrx-driver for xorg 6.8.99? |
| 17:15.00 | sandman | stew: Run an application set in a chroot in a non-chroot X session |
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| 17:15.14 | Ryushin | valdyn, stew: So you're saying that the network should be up before fstab is processed. That seems just wrong. RedHat runs a init script called netfs that mounts network filesystems after NFS/whatever has been started. |
| 17:15.21 | labandus | i 've got a new Partition , but i can't use it , because it's not mounted.. |
| 17:15.31 | labandus | mtnman, i 've got a new Partition , but i can't use it , because it's not mounted.. |
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| 17:15.35 | mtnman | labandus: mount it |
| 17:15.49 | poncha|work | from ssh (4.1) manual i gathered that i should run ssh -R <bind-ip>:<bind-port>:<dest-ip>:<dest-port> ... but when i specify bind address, it still binds only on 127.0.0.1 ... any ideas ? |
| 17:15.55 | Roxport | ok |
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| 17:16.37 | labandus | mtnman, how?? |
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| 17:16.39 | stew | Ryushin: what i can tell you for sure (becuase i just did this last week on a fresh sarge install), if you put a cifs share into fstab, it will get mounted when you boot if your networking is setup correctly in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:17.03 | mtnman | labandus: i suggested you read the manpage for mount so you can figure it out. |
| 17:17.14 | valdyn | Ryushin: im saying that debian mounts network shares listed in fstab _after_ the network is up |
| 17:17.18 | poncha|work | i.e. i run ssh -R 192.168.0.222:2222:192.168.2.222:22 poncha@remotebox.com (192.168.0.222 is remotebox's ip in its local network -- eth1 there , 192.168.2.222 is ip of local box ) |
| 17:17.23 | ke6isf | Is there a channel for OOo? |
| 17:17.47 | Roxport | mtnman: msg dpkg ntp did the trick |
| 17:17.55 | mtnman | roxport: good |
| 17:18.08 | justStormY | is it possible getting xfce per apt? |
| 17:18.29 | Roxport | wow, really cool apt-get is so freaking cool. it got the ntp and set the time. wow... |
| 17:18.33 | Ryushin | Okay, then I have something that is broken in fresh sid install. I'v put the mount points in fstab already. And they mount correctly by telling it to mount. I.e. "mount /smbmnt/remoteshare" |
| 17:18.53 | Roxport | hey, thanks everyone in this channel who has put up with me the past few weeks. i finally got sarge running. |
| 17:18.58 | Roxport | you guys are the greatest |
| 17:19.01 | takatumi | ke6isf: #debian-oo |
| 17:19.09 | mtnman | roxport: just don't tell anyone :D |
| 17:19.15 | valdyn | Ryushin: the initscript is called /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh, and its start priority is 55 where networking has 40 |
| 17:19.17 | ke6isf | taka_: Sankyu |
| 17:19.42 | ams_ | poncha|work, what exactly do you want to do? |
| 17:19.45 | Roxport | yeah, ha ha :) |
| 17:19.47 | Ryushin | valdyn: thanks, I'll look there. |
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| 17:20.01 | valdyn | Ryushin: so networking is started _before_ mountnfs.sh ( legacy name, mounts smb/cifs and various others |
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| 17:21.28 | deja_vu | hi, i've been playing with suspend-to-disk (swsusp), but after resuming my HDD-LED stays on. Any idea how to fix that? :) |
| 17:21.45 | valdyn | Ryushin: ops, its 45 , not 55, same results however |
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| 17:21.55 | Roxport | bye bye |
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| 17:22.04 | Riddleywalker | hey all |
| 17:22.22 | Ryushin | Right. I'm looking at the problem now. At least I know where it's trying to process the mount points now. |
| 17:22.26 | Ryushin | Thanks again. |
| 17:22.33 | Riddleywalker | anyone here know of a way to check if someone checks your user info through aim? |
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| 17:23.35 | valdyn | Riddleywalker: what has that to do with debian? |
| 17:24.06 | poncha|work | ams_, i need to be able to connect from the local subnet of the remote box to local subnet of this machine and i do not have access to setup port-forwarding on local router |
| 17:24.19 | _karma_ | I was doing a daily chkrootkit check and came across this message: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1020 -- what should I do inorder to resolve this issue? |
| 17:24.42 | sandman | I see nobody cares to help me lol |
| 17:24.46 | Riddleywalker | valdyn: not much, but i figure i'd ask since many ppl were in this room |
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| 17:25.01 | Riddleywalker | sandman: what's your problem? |
| 17:25.17 | Riddleywalker | valdyn: *are in this room |
| 17:25.19 | stew | sandman: is X listening on port 6000? |
| 17:25.29 | poncha|work | ams_, and meanwhile, i can only make remote bind on 127.0.0.1 which means i cant ssh from other boxes there, only from itself :) |
| 17:26.01 | CAiRO | the README.Debian of mozplugger says i shall delete $HOME/.mozilla/pluginreg.dat and that it gets regenerated but it doesn't, i've renamed it but it doesn't create a new version.. what's wrong? |
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| 17:26.21 | sandman | stew: How do I find out? |
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| 17:26.27 | stew | sandman: /msg dpkg open ports |
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| 17:26.41 | stew | sandman: but unless you went out of your way to make it, it isn't |
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| 17:26.56 | valdyn | _karma_: chkrootkit doesnt actually tell you what those processes are? |
| 17:26.57 | stew | sandman: how do you start x? via "startx" or does a dm start it for you? |
| 17:27.03 | sandman | stew: dm |
| 17:27.15 | CAiRO | i've also tried it with ~/.firefox/pluginreg.dat but no difference |
| 17:27.18 | _karma_ | valdyn: nope, thats what I was trying tok figure out, but it doesnt seem to list em |
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| 17:27.53 | stew | sandman: you need to find the config files for your dm (/etc/X11/?dm/* maybe?) and get rid of the "-nolisten tcp" from the X command line |
| 17:27.54 | ams_ | poncha|work, setup a forwarding from the remote machine port 2222 to your local machine port 22. Then go to any remote machine and connect to that first remote machine to port 2222. |
| 17:28.14 | poncha|work | see: [subnet 1] <- 192.168.0.x ->NAT-> [eth1=192.168.0.222 ppp0=1.2.3.4] <-- internet --> [2.3.4.5 192.168.2.1] <-NAT<- 192.168.2.x -> [192.168.2.13 (this box)] |
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| 17:28.21 | sandman | stew: That's how to spawn apps out of chroots in a non-chroot X? |
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| 17:28.26 | sandman | Using tcp capabilities of X? |
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| 17:28.33 | sandman | Is that going to go slower or anything? |
| 17:28.43 | valdyn | sandman: how did you get into the chroot? |
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| 17:28.52 | poncha|work | ams_, my machine (local) does not have external ip addres... and i have no access to router (some dumb... forgot the pass) |
| 17:29.03 | sandman | valdyn: dchroot -d |
| 17:29.09 | Miesco | Im uxing xfce |
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| 17:29.24 | stew | sandman: ok, you orginally were having a problem with connecting ot localhost:6000, the reason you can't is nothing's listening, this is how you make the xserver listen to :6000 |
| 17:29.25 | valdyn | sandman: well sure, but that needs root, doesnt it? how did you become root? |
| 17:29.57 | bobslaede | is there a way to test if my firewire device/port will work before i go out an by an extern harddrive? |
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| 17:30.26 | valdyn | sandman: considering that running X applications from chroot does not require anything special at all. |
| 17:30.35 | poncha|work | ams_, so i want to contact from one machine behind NAT to other machine (behind other NAT) and i have no control of router/firewall on the second NAT :) |
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| 17:30.58 | poncha|work | *but* i am currently inside the target network, so i can open a tunnel using ssh ... |
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| 17:31.44 | poncha|work | problem is (i am probably missing something) - it does not bind on any interfaces besides lo :) |
| 17:31.49 | Fox_1_ | after changing /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward what i must restart? |
| 17:31.56 | sandman | Actually, dchroot does not require root |
| 17:32.02 | ams_ | poncha|work, it's not a problem |
| 17:32.03 | youssef | hello. I have a printer with an ethernet card. Why cannot I print ? |
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| 17:32.10 | sandman | And secondly, Why is it that I cannot get my X apps to run, then? |
| 17:32.27 | poncha|work | ams_, it means i need to ssh twice :) which i'm trying to avoid :) |
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| 17:32.47 | ams_ | poncha|work, ah so |
| 17:32.53 | Pingwin_21 | query |
| 17:33.01 | Pingwin_21 | ups :| |
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| 17:33.03 | Fox_1_ | ? |
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| 17:33.20 | poncha|work | the manual clearly states i should be able to bind that tunnel (on remote) to any interface i want :/ |
| 17:33.21 | ams_ | poncha|work, you need to make 2 ssh connections in this case. there is no other solution |
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| 17:33.35 | poncha|work | mm |
| 17:33.40 | poncha|work | maybe i have to be root for that... |
| 17:33.44 | poncha|work | trying :) |
| 17:33.46 | Miesco | In fluxbox how do I add something to the desktop |
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| 17:34.20 | youssef | can someone help me |
| 17:35.09 | ams_ | poncha|work, you still will need to establish the second connection, even if you bind it to another machine |
| 17:35.24 | valdyn | sandman: hold on, seeing how dchroot works |
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| 17:35.42 | frank_b | bye, thanks everyone |
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| 17:35.51 | Ronin | close Pingwin_21 |
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| 17:35.58 | WoVA | Is it to do processloading balance in Debian? I mean can i do so apache may only use 90% of all CPU ? |
| 17:36.09 | poncha|work | ams_, yes, sure, but not *two* connections (first to remote box itself, then to 127.0.0.1 ) |
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| 17:36.21 | poncha|work | being root does not change anything :( |
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| 17:36.26 | elephantman | What is the safest way to reboot a system ? |
| 17:36.39 | WoVA | Is it possibel to do processloading balance in Debian? I mean can i do so apache may only use 90% of all CPU ? |
| 17:36.40 | electron_ | Hello, I am having some trouble with XMMS, it was working fine, now when I try to play mp3s the progress bar goes along fast and I don't get any sound, same with mpg123. |
| 17:36.43 | valdyn | sandman: run dchroot -d |
| 17:36.52 | sandman | valdyn: I do |
| 17:36.56 | sandman | valdyn: Already did that :) |
| 17:37.06 | poncha|work | ok, i guess that is as far as i could get :) |
| 17:37.16 | valdyn | sandman: from an X shell? |
| 17:37.18 | poncha|work | its anyway better than nothing :) |
| 17:37.29 | sandman | valdyn: Yup |
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| 17:37.39 | ams_ | poncha|work, on local1: ssh remote1 -R 2222:local2:22, on remote1: ssh localhost -p 2222. that's all |
| 17:37.47 | justStormY | does anybody know how the filename of gtk+ is for downloading in apt-get? |
| 17:38.00 | valdyn | sandman: does that chroot contain the *same* home directory as your / ? |
| 17:38.05 | samuel | gawk is part of the base-system but will debian work without it? i dont see a use in it for me, and it has no packages depending on in |
| 17:38.07 | gothtec | Damn, I love autofs. A lot less persistant connections that get screwed up now :) |
| 17:38.15 | sandman | valdyn: No |
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| 17:38.18 | thingfish | justStormY: apt-cache search gtk+ |
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| 17:38.52 | justStormY | thingfisch - sure but i cant make the option |more - so all scrolls up fast |
| 17:38.58 | valdyn | sandman: ok, thats your problem, there's probably various ways to fix this, but 'mount --bind /home /foo/home' is easy and should do it i think |
| 17:38.59 | poncha|work | ams_, yeah but that "remote1" is a server without console playing nat/firewall for local net :) (and i need to actually initiate connection from one of the workstations inside that net) |
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| 17:39.44 | poncha|work | which mean 192.168.0.13 -> 192.168.0.222 (remote1) 127.0.0.1 -> 127.0.0.1 :) |
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| 17:39.59 | sandman | valdyn: Why is that so important? |
| 17:40.02 | thingfish | justStormY: try synaptic, search gtk+ |
| 17:40.03 | elephantman | Do i have to restart my system after changing locales encoding ? |
| 17:40.14 | electron_ | i think the sound library has problems with esd, how can I fix this? |
| 17:40.15 | Thomas_dbus | .. I need dbus-qt-1 and cant find it anywhere. |
| 17:40.15 | SerajewelKS | woot, kde 3.4 in testing! |
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| 17:40.16 | elephantman | i did a 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' |
| 17:40.31 | Thomas_dbus | .. I need dbus-qt-1 and cant find it anywhere. |
| 17:40.37 | SerajewelKS | !repeat |
| 17:40.38 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 17:40.38 | Thomas_dbus | please help meeeeee!!! |
| 17:40.40 | Miesco | If I use gdm or kdm, will that affect how fast X is? |
| 17:40.51 | thingfish | no |
| 17:40.54 | valdyn | sandman: cant connect to X by default without authenticating and that is done via ~/.Xauthority ( dont ask me details, I dont know them ) |
| 17:40.58 | Thomas_dbus | kdm looks cooler gdm is faster |
| 17:41.07 | samuel | elephantman, just log out and back in |
| 17:41.11 | Fox_1_ | how can i check is ip forwarding enabled? |
| 17:41.30 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward # iirc |
| 17:41.32 | Thomas_dbus | anyone know where to get dbus-qt-1? |
| 17:41.39 | valdyn | Fox_1_: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 17:41.42 | stew | Thomas_dbus: what version of debian are you running? dbus-qt-1 doesn't exist yet |
| 17:41.42 | SerajewelKS | !tell Thomas_dbus about repeat |
| 17:41.45 | ams_ | poncha|work, then you will need 3 ssh connections instead of 2 :) |
| 17:41.49 | Fox_1_ | then? |
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| 17:42.03 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: if it says 1, it's enabled |
| 17:42.11 | poncha|work | ams_, yeah ;) (i kinda disregarded this one as this is a "prepwork" :)) |
| 17:42.11 | Fox_1_ | it's 0 |
| 17:42.23 | Thomas_dbus | im useing Debian Sarge with a KDE 3.4.1 Repo set up and need DBUS-qt-1 to get full functionality |
| 17:42.23 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: then do "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ip4v/ip_forward" |
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| 17:42.26 | palmax | Hello! |
| 17:42.31 | Fox_1_ | then? |
| 17:42.33 | palmax | I have a problem with my xsessions |
| 17:42.38 | bolrod | cool |
| 17:42.43 | stew | Thomas_dbus: ask #debian-kde, we cannot support sarge with kde 3.4 |
| 17:42.45 | Miesco | ls |
| 17:42.45 | el_pimpo | Hi all, I need help ! I'm actually configuring a web-server at home and I'm using a dlink d-624 router |
| 17:42.45 | el_pimpo | where the W-S is connected. Would it be secure if I manage all the security on the router instead |
| 17:42.46 | el_pimpo | of using iptables on my W-S ? Another things I dont understand, should I use a dmz or not? |
| 17:42.46 | SerajewelKS | Thomas_dbus: afaik KDE 3.4 is in official testing now |
| 17:42.47 | Miesco | sorry |
| 17:42.55 | palmax | I cant do a" startx", but I can use xinit |
| 17:42.59 | electron_ | Hello, I am having some trouble with XMMS, it was working fine, now when I try to play mp3s the progress bar goes along fast and I don't get any sound, same with mpg123. I think the sound library has problems with esd, how can I fix this? |
| 17:43.06 | valdyn | !find bin/startx |
| 17:43.08 | stew | Thomas_dbus: or you should be asking whomever created the kde packages you are using |
| 17:43.13 | SerajewelKS | electron_: don't use esd? |
| 17:43.16 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/startx' (2): (/usr/bin/startxfce4) in x11/xfce4-utils ;; (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients. |
| 17:43.16 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS does i restart something after that? |
| 17:43.21 | poncha|work | ams_, thanks for your help, i think i will leave it as is... i already spent on this as much time as i would connecting some 100 times spare :)))) |
| 17:43.26 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: no, if you restart it will be disabled again |
| 17:43.27 | electron_ | its all that works |
| 17:43.27 | valdyn | palmax: apt-get install xbase-clients |
| 17:43.29 | palmax | electron_: I think that you may go to enlightenment channel |
| 17:43.37 | mtnman | electron_:have you checked mixer settings? |
| 17:43.39 | poncha|work | *extra times |
| 17:43.39 | palmax | valdyn: I did it |
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| 17:43.57 | valdyn | palmax: then you can 'startx' or at least /usr/X11R6/bin/startx |
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| 17:44.08 | palmax | valdyn: but it crash |
| 17:44.21 | valdyn | palmax: it just quits |
| 17:44.30 | electron_ | how? |
| 17:44.49 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: turning forwarding on won't magically make your box a gateway, btw. you still need to set up proper NAT rules in iptables. AFAIK when ip_forward is 0, the NAT tables are simply ignored. |
| 17:44.59 | palmax | valdyn: I can't use startx because xorg crash <- I think that can be open |
| 17:45.03 | palmax | valdyn: I can't use startx because xorg crash <- I think that can be "open" |
| 17:45.14 | WoVA | Is it possibel to do processloading balance in Debian? I mean can i do so apache may only use 90% of all CPU ? |
| 17:45.19 | SerajewelKS | palmax: fix your x.org configuration maybe? |
| 17:45.28 | electron_ | libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 17:45.28 | electron_ | Message: device: default |
| 17:45.32 | palmax | SerajewelKS: I have a correct xorg.conf |
| 17:45.35 | electron_ | I got that error when running it from terminal |
| 17:45.46 | SerajewelKS | palmax: then it won't be crashing on you |
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| 17:45.56 | valdyn | palmax: it doesnt crash, it just quits, install a windowmanager or fix your ~/.xsession |
| 17:46.14 | palmax | I havent ~/.xsession |
| 17:46.17 | SimonRaven | not so much ignored, but don't work |
| 17:46.25 | valdyn | palmax: so install a window manager |
| 17:46.26 | palmax | valdyn: I have a lot of window managers |
| 17:46.39 | palmax | I installed kde, gnome, ... |
| 17:46.54 | SimonRaven | so use one of them. kde and gnome aren't window managers |
| 17:46.56 | valdyn | palmax: pick a windowmanager |
| 17:47.13 | SimonRaven | metacity and kwin are |
| 17:47.19 | palmax | but I only get: cat ~/.xsession-errors |
| 17:47.20 | palmax | Xsession: X session started for palmax at mié nov 2 18:37:05 CET 2005 |
| 17:47.20 | palmax | open: Permission denied |
| 17:47.32 | valdyn | palmax: "echo exec /path/to/somewm > ~/.xsession" |
| 17:48.01 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: or xinit /path/to/wm |
| 17:48.19 | palmax | echo exec /usr/bin/startkde > ~/.xsession |
| 17:48.20 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: since he wants to use startx... |
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| 17:48.39 | palmax | exec echo /usr/bin/startkde > ~/.xsession |
| 17:48.48 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: yeah, just xinit is a nice way to test without fscking around with ~/.xsession |
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| 17:49.32 | palmax | I cant |
| 17:49.37 | palmax | I have the same error |
| 17:49.47 | palmax | open : Permission denied |
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| 17:51.02 | valdyn | palmax: but xinit works you say? |
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| 17:51.30 | Zvpun | how can I get k3b on testing? |
| 17:51.33 | palmax | valdyn: xinit run but it dont run kde |
| 17:51.36 | electron_ | Xmms was working fine, now I can't play mp3s with XMMS or MPG123. The progress bar just goes through the track like 5 times the speed like it's ripping the song or something and I get no sound. |
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| 17:51.53 | valdyn | palmax: run xinit, start startkde in the terminal in your X |
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| 17:53.08 | palmax | valdyn: kde unable to run because /tmp have a restrictive permissions for ksmserver |
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| 17:53.39 | Fox_1_ | i enable ip forwarding, in nat table i write iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p TCP -j MASQUERADE |
| 17:53.42 | valdyn | palmax: why the hell does your /tmp/ have restrictive permissions? |
| 17:53.50 | palmax | I dont know |
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| 17:54.00 | SimonRaven | ls -ld /tmp |
| 17:54.02 | chealer | electron_, what's the relation between xmms and mpg123? do other players work? other formats? |
| 17:54.08 | WoVA | Is it possibel to do processloading balance in Debian? I mean can i do so apache may only use 90% of all CPU ? |
| 17:54.10 | palmax | valdyn: drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 648 2005-11-02 18:54 tmp |
| 17:54.11 | zaikxtox | hello. are there some debian packages dor enlightenment dr17 ? |
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| 17:54.18 | Fox_1_ | but my local computer couldn't open web pages |
| 17:54.23 | SimonRaven | should be 1777 |
| 17:54.26 | Fox_1_ | whats the problem? |
| 17:54.27 | electron_ | no |
| 17:54.34 | electron_ | I can only play audio cds with cdcd |
| 17:54.34 | valdyn | palmax: chmod a+w /tmp |
| 17:54.43 | SimonRaven | palmax: ^^^ |
| 17:54.57 | SimonRaven | no, not just 777 but 1777 |
| 17:55.03 | saloxin | valdyn: nope, palmax needs the 't' thingy |
| 17:55.22 | pattieja | hello |
| 17:55.43 | palmax | valdyn: :D |
| 17:55.46 | zaikxtox | msg dpkg java |
| 17:55.54 | palmax | valdyn: can you show me a ls -la /tmp of you? |
| 17:55.56 | SimonRaven | zaikxtox: nothing official, no |
| 17:55.56 | ke6isf | I installed a bunch of packages, amongst which were libxt6, for compatibility with Wordperfect 8. (I know, but OOo seems to lack certain obscure stuff that WP has and I like.) However, when running the installer, it tells me that it can't load libXt.so.6. What have I not done here? |
| 17:56.07 | zaikxtox | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.16 | pattieja | I attempted to update my webserver to the latest available versions of apache, apache-ssl, libapache-mod-php4, etc. from unstable and it basically broke the server. Tons of glibc error messages about duplicate frees and memory allocations, etc. |
| 17:56.19 | SimonRaven | palmax: drwxrwxrwt 10 root root 4.0K 2005-11-02 12:33 /tmp |
| 17:56.29 | pattieja | needless to say, every time someone attempted to connect to the website, it didn't work. |
| 17:56.38 | palmax | t? |
| 17:56.41 | palmax | SimonRaven: t? |
| 17:56.50 | SimonRaven | yes, t. 'sticky' |
| 17:56.52 | pattieja | I was able to downgrade back to 'stable' versions (from sarge), but I'm no better off than when I started. |
| 17:57.05 | ke6isf | pattieja: Well, why'd you do that? |
| 17:57.37 | pattieja | ke6isf, in order to fix some of the problems that a hacker is using to exploit apache and gain access to the webserver |
| 17:57.50 | Fox_1_ | i enable ip forwarding, in nat table i write iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p TCP -j MASQUERADE |
| 17:57.52 | Fox_1_ | but my local computer couldn't open web pages |
| 17:57.53 | Fox_1_ | i enable ip forwarding, in nat table i write iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p TCP -j MASQUERADE |
| 17:57.54 | takatumi | pattieja: sarge is stable, downgrade? |
| 17:57.55 | Fox_1_ | whats the problem? |
| 17:58.00 | SimonRaven | um, why did you move to sid in the first place? |
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| 17:58.25 | pattieja | takatumi, correct. I had "upgraded" those packages to 'unstable', then I backed down to 'sarge' (i.e., 'stable') |
| 17:58.42 | pattieja | SimonRaven, see post for ke6isf |
| 17:58.46 | ke6isf | pattieja: You might go conserve your files, do 'apt-get --purge remove apache' (with all relevant stuff), and reinstall. |
| 17:58.49 | SimonRaven | sarge has libc6 2.3.2 and etch/sid have 2.3.5. they're rather different |
| 17:58.54 | palmax | SimonRaven: i dont remmember of t |
| 17:58.59 | SimonRaven | you backport |
| 17:59.04 | SimonRaven | palmax: info chmod |
| 17:59.16 | pattieja | SimonRaven, thanks. I forgot where that site is? |
| 17:59.18 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: it's a good idea to specify a source restriction on that. so if you want to route from your subnet, do something like: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --source 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE |
| 17:59.32 | SimonRaven | apt-get.org, backports.org |
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| 17:59.38 | chealer | electron_, looks like you have a general problem with sound then. cdcd might go to your audio card by a different path. does any application that doesn't play audio CDs play sound corectly? |
| 17:59.39 | pattieja | SimonRaven, thanks |
| 17:59.43 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: and make sure that the other boxes you want to route have your debian box set as the gateway |
| 17:59.44 | SimonRaven | or build it yourself |
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| 17:59.56 | palmax | SimonRaven: how can I do for get this permissions? |
| 18:00.01 | pattieja | anybody know why grsecurity2 patches to 2.4.27 kernel source don't patch cleanly? |
| 18:00.10 | SimonRaven | palmax: info chmod |
| 18:00.14 | electron_ | cheal, not sure, I only play mp3s, thats the only sound I use. |
| 18:00.22 | electron_ | how do I reinstall my sound or something |
| 18:00.22 | palmax | :D |
| 18:00.27 | pattieja | the other way I was thinking to mitigate the attack was to install grsecurity and setup process security rules |
| 18:00.37 | justStormY | hey can anybody help - i have installed xfce but when i will start him a message comes: "Fatal Server Error" no screen found - what can i do? |
| 18:00.46 | SimonRaven | layered is better. do both ;) |
| 18:00.51 | chealer | electron_, there's got to be another app you can use to check if sound is working |
| 18:00.59 | SimonRaven | pattieja: ^^^ |
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| 18:01.02 | electron_ | like? |
| 18:01.11 | chealer | electron_, a game? |
| 18:01.13 | mikeX | justStormY: maybe something is wrong with your XF86Config-4 file? |
| 18:01.19 | electron_ | don't have any |
| 18:01.24 | electron_ | I don't think it is working |
| 18:01.26 | stew | !noscreensfound |
| 18:01.27 | dpkg | [noscreensfound] probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 18:01.43 | stew | !drxx justStormY |
| 18:01.44 | dpkg | justStormY: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:01.47 | pattieja | SimonRaven, ok, I'll try, but grsecurity2 doesn't patch cleanly, and I'd rather not switch to vanilla source, unless it's able to support cramfs initial ramdisks like Debian kernels do |
| 18:01.54 | palmax | SimonRaven: thx! |
| 18:02.09 | stew | palmax: current 2.6 vanilla kernels support cramfs |
| 18:02.16 | stew | err pattieja ^^^ |
| 18:02.18 | palmax | cram? |
| 18:02.23 | chealer | electron_, well then tell us so. try $ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 18:02.23 | stew | palmax: sorry, misfire |
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| 18:02.30 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS it doesn't work |
| 18:02.33 | SimonRaven | debian's cram was added to 2.6 |
| 18:02.41 | chealer | electron_, does it make sound until you interrupt the command? |
| 18:02.42 | palmax | :D |
| 18:02.46 | pattieja | stew, I'm currently running 2.4.27 |
| 18:02.50 | palmax | thx SimonRaven ! |
| 18:02.57 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: then you fscked something up. are you sure that the other computer is set to use the debian box as a gateway? |
| 18:03.00 | pattieja | I guess if I have to, I'll make a trip to the colo to upgrade |
| 18:03.03 | stew | pattieja: dunno then |
| 18:03.05 | pattieja | in case anything goes wrong |
| 18:03.12 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS yes |
| 18:03.17 | electron_ | nah mate |
| 18:03.18 | stew | pattieja: it would be easy to determine, of course |
| 18:03.24 | electron_ | I just ran tuxracer, no sound |
| 18:03.25 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: you also need to consider that with that iptables rule you are /only/ routing TCP, which means that the client computer will not be getting its DNS requests masqueraded |
| 18:03.31 | pattieja | I wasn't able to get OpenS/WAN patched against 2.6.8 (at the time), so I stayed with 2.4.27 |
| 18:03.41 | palmax | I have to go |
| 18:03.43 | chealer | electron_, is it the same for the command I told you? |
| 18:03.43 | palmax | bye! |
| 18:03.46 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: so you either need to set up a DNS proxy on the debian box (something like dnsmasq) or allow udp to be routed as well |
| 18:03.48 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS ok i understand |
| 18:04.17 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS i want to masquarade dns to |
| 18:04.21 | Fox_1_ | too |
| 18:04.30 | electron_ | yes |
| 18:04.33 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: if you have a lot of boxes, using dnsmasq will probably be easier, since otherwise you need to statically set the DNS server addresses on each client |
| 18:04.58 | pattieja | stew, I have firewall rules that depend on the 'ipsec0' interface being available |
| 18:05.01 | electron_ | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 18:05.01 | electron_ | cat: write error: No such device |
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| 18:05.14 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS what i must set dns server in client comp? |
| 18:05.20 | chealer | electron_, ah well you certainly have a sound problem then |
| 18:05.25 | pattieja | stew, which is only available after patching the kernel with the KLIPS patch for OpenS/WAN |
| 18:05.25 | daniele_athome | hello |
| 18:05.33 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS i set it my ISP's dns |
| 18:05.34 | electron_ | lol |
| 18:05.38 | electron_ | how can I fix it? |
| 18:05.41 | chealer | electron_, you have no idea what change could have caused that since your sound worked? |
| 18:05.44 | sparr | with imagemagick is there a way to specify the "canvas size" for an image? |
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| 18:05.49 | l3m | every time i boot it complains that /selinux/ could not be found. wtf? ( debian sid, kernel 2.6.14-1-686 ) |
| 18:05.58 | electron_ | nope, it was working, then it wasn't after a reboot |
| 18:06.10 | daniele_athome | i have a problem |
| 18:06.20 | daniele_athome | with compiling of yakuake |
| 18:06.28 | chealer | electron_, ...using the same kernel? |
| 18:06.35 | Necato1 | I've a problem with POSIX-Semaphors, sem_open() and stock-testing-kernel 2.6.12-10. if i do an sem_open() i get back the error: function not implemented. However named-shared-memory works. tempfs is mounted on /dev/shm. I assume, NPTL is not enabled in the stock-kernel. How to find out? And why is ist so? |
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| 18:06.48 | electron_ | I upgraded kernels |
| 18:06.53 | electron_ | but I think it used to work |
| 18:06.55 | electron_ | can't remember |
| 18:06.56 | ArSn | hi! |
| 18:06.57 | ArSn | what was the exactly command, to add an ip-address to a network-card in debian? |
| 18:06.57 | daniele_athome | configure.in:43: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE |
| 18:06.58 | daniele_athome | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.58 | daniele_athome | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.58 | daniele_athome | configure.in:48: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 18:06.58 | daniele_athome | configure.in:51: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_COMPILERS |
| 18:06.59 | daniele_athome | configure.in:52: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ENABLE_SHARED |
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| 18:07.02 | electron_ | shall I reboot into 2.4 ? |
| 18:07.07 | electron_ | Linux 2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 18:07.16 | SimonRaven | stop pasting here |
| 18:07.29 | ArSn | Could somebody help me so pleasea? |
| 18:07.34 | ke6isf | An addendum to my previous problem. libXt.so.6 shows up if I do 'ldconfig -v | grep libXt', however xwp is failing to acknowledge it. ...help? |
| 18:07.35 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: your ISP's DNS servers will work as long as the debian box is routing UDP traffic |
| 18:07.51 | electron_ | ArSn, ifconfig eth0 ip |
| 18:07.55 | ArSn | thx |
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| 18:08.21 | chealer | electron_, it should work under 2.6, but you may want to try if it still works under 2.4. you say it used to work under 2.6? |
| 18:08.28 | goccia | daniele_athome : i had a look just today at yakuake : found an unofficial deb , installed it and purge it |
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| 18:08.41 | l3m | since updating to 2.6.14 i seem to have huge delays in apps accessing the hd, sometimes up to one minute... any ideas what could be happening? |
| 18:08.43 | electron_ | I can't remember, I think so |
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| 18:08.45 | electron_ | brb |
| 18:08.46 | linux_manju | Fox_1_: search for a pakcage by the name dnsmasq |
| 18:08.46 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS in iptables i add udp protocol too |
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| 18:08.48 | SerajewelKS | has anyone tried kde 3.4 in testing yet? is it stable for the most part? (yes, i am taking a poll.) |
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| 18:08.59 | SerajewelKS | Fox_1_: ok then it should work now |
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| 18:09.01 | Fox_1_ | SerajewelKS and it's work |
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| 18:09.01 | chealer | SerajewelKS, ask #debian-kde |
| 18:09.09 | stew | SerajewelKS: /msg dpkg bts |
| 18:09.17 | linux_manju | Fox_1_: or you could setup a caching only dns server .. which is pretty simple to config |
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| 18:09.32 | moconnor | I am attempting to use an Ubuntu Live CD (Breezy) to debootstrap to Debian AMD64 Sarge. When I run deboostrap (after setting up the partiions) all sorts of packages fail to install. Even things like bash. Does this kind of problem ring a bell with anyone? Google fails me. |
| 18:09.37 | chealer | !kde3.4 |
| 18:09.37 | dpkg | KDE Version 3.4 is currently in sid; ask me about <why is kdebase not in testing> if you want to know when it will reach testing. |
| 18:09.41 | EnsignRedshirt | Does synaptic happen to make a log of when and which packages are updated? |
| 18:09.45 | linux_manju | and configure ur clients to use debian servers ip as their dns |
| 18:09.55 | Fox_1_ | linux_manju ok, thanks. it's work:) |
| 18:10.15 | linux_manju | Fox_1_: wc |
| 18:10.33 | stew | moconnor: most likely the /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/sarge is out of date for your debootstrap package, you might wanna get the current debootstrap pacakge from packages.debian.org and use the sarge script from there |
| 18:10.41 | chealer | dpkg, no, kde3.4 is <reply> KDE 3.4 is finally in etch. |
| 18:10.41 | dpkg | chealer: okay |
| 18:10.44 | SimonRaven | !poles is <reply>what firefighters go down on |
| 18:10.44 | dpkg | SimonRaven: okay |
| 18:10.47 | tico26 | any idea why a stock 2.4.27-2 debian sarge kernel won't successfully "vgscan" and "vgchange -a y vg00" my LVM1 VG (no, root is not on LVM)? |
| 18:10.54 | moconnor | stew - I'll try that |
| 18:10.56 | tico26 | I had to vgscan it manually |
| 18:10.59 | chealer | EnsignRedshirt, which release do you run? |
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| 18:11.09 | stew | moconnor: (hello brother: /whois stew) :) |
| 18:11.18 | EnsignRedshirt | chealer: sarge |
| 18:11.26 | SimonRaven | i realised that had a double entendre when i hit return |
| 18:11.56 | chealer | EnsignRedshirt, no logs |
| 18:11.57 | WoVA | Is it possibel to do processloading balance in Debian? I mean can i do so apache may only use 90% of all CPU ? |
| 18:12.00 | nite613 | what's a decent lightwight gif/jpg/bmp viewer? I used to use "xv" ages ago, but it doesn't seem to be in the tree |
| 18:12.34 | EnsignRedshirt | Within the last day, my desktop background fails to stay set--it keeps reverting to a plain light blue--and I'm trying to see if I updated something that might be making this happen. |
| 18:12.51 | EnsignRedshirt | That is, it fails to stay set between logins. |
| 18:13.07 | stew | nite613: gqview |
| 18:13.12 | stew | !xv |
| 18:13.12 | dpkg | well, xv is at http://www.trilon.com/xv/index.html or http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=xv%24 - very popular but NON-FREE image viewer, many formats, thumbnails. Also, the X-Video extension, try 'xvinfo' to see what your videocard is capable of (XFree86 >= 4.0.2 needed), ask me about qiv, or use the 'display' and 'import' and 'convert' programs from imagemagick |
| 18:13.19 | EnsignRedshirt | chealer: Darn. |
| 18:13.24 | SimonRaven | display in imagemagick |
| 18:13.39 | SecretNinja | does any one know if the current testing branch will install ok on to a mac mini, i have had a look at the build logs on debians site and they say it is working but i am having problems |
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| 18:13.47 | _gass_ | hello ... |
| 18:13.48 | nite613 | stew: Thanks as always |
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| 18:14.21 | SimonRaven | SecretNinja: yes, it works. i'd use a recent kernel though, like 2.6.14 |
| 18:14.31 | _gass_ | does anyone knows how to activate the create pdf's option in the print of gnome? see http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ola0ie.jpg |
| 18:14.34 | Zvpun | how can I get k3b on testing? |
| 18:14.43 | SimonRaven | @installit |
| 18:14.44 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 18:14.49 | elephantman | Do i have to restart my system after changing locales encoding ? |
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| 18:14.57 | mirak | hi |
| 18:14.58 | stew | Zvpun: /msg dpkg quick sid/etch mix |
| 18:15.01 | SimonRaven | no |
| 18:15.05 | electron_ | Hey chealer, well it works with 2.4 |
| 18:15.07 | mirak | I want to fsck /, how can I do that ? |
| 18:15.08 | electron_ | :) |
| 18:15.08 | rking | is there a way to query dns to find out all the names that map to a given IP? |
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| 18:15.18 | electron_ | So why won't it work with 2.6.8-2? |
| 18:15.22 | mirak | I tried to remount as readonly but it says it's busy |
| 18:15.24 | chealer | Zvpun, ask #debian0kde |
| 18:15.26 | SecretNinja | i have had a go with that one, but when i gt to the point of setting up the users it is failing |
| 18:15.28 | Danar | is there a way to enable mc to enter bzip files? |
| 18:15.37 | rking | also, is there a way to install a .deb but without root - e.g., into ~/local/* |
| 18:15.45 | Zvpun | stew: didn't work. |
| 18:15.51 | stew | Zvpun: try again (just fixed it) |
| 18:15.53 | Danar | rking, fakeroot |
| 18:15.57 | l3m | Danar just press enter while you're on a file |
| 18:15.59 | cahoot | _gass_: tried installing cups-pdf? |
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| 18:16.01 | SimonRaven | SecretNinja: nothing to do with kernel. try another mirror |
| 18:16.07 | Danar | l3m, doesn't work for bzip files |
| 18:16.11 | l3m | Danar: bzip2 needs to be installed |
| 18:16.20 | youssef | Re. I can ping my printer. But it does not want to print the test page. Any clue ? |
| 18:16.24 | rking | Danar: oh, i didn't know it could be used like that. much thankly. |
| 18:16.35 | Danar | it is |
| 18:16.43 | electron_ | chealer, It works on the 2.4 kernel, so how can I make it work on 2.6.8-2? |
| 18:16.51 | SecretNinja | ? as in get a new net install image or use a diffrent ftp mirror to install from |
| 18:16.53 | l3m | Danar: hmm weird, works here |
| 18:17.03 | SimonRaven | SecretNinja: the installer is rather picky about the .udebs (small version of .debs used by the installer) |
| 18:17.05 | _gass_ | cahoot: yes |
| 18:17.12 | Danar | l3m, for me it views the file as text |
| 18:17.12 | _gass_ | didi not resolved my problem ... |
| 18:17.23 | chealer | electron_, I don't know. ask someone else why you wouldn't have a /dev/dsp under 2.6.8 |
| 18:17.26 | SimonRaven | SecretNinja: different mirror when it asks you which mirror you'd like to use |
| 18:17.46 | _gass_ | cahoot: should it? i had not rebooted X |
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| 18:17.57 | Zvpun | stew: but why has it been removed? |
| 18:17.58 | linux_manju | we have a noc group which the reruning address is set to noc@mycom.com .. now when ever we login ( 5 people) each one of us is d/l the same capoies of mails from a remote mail server, is there a way that the group mails (i.e noc@mycomp.com) will be d/l once to a local server and we all rcv the mails from that one and individual mails d/l from the remote server |
| 18:18.01 | electron_ | ? |
| 18:18.04 | stew | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 18:18.06 | SecretNinja | humm, i have had a go with a cupple of diffrent uk mirrors, ill give it a shot with a europe one |
| 18:18.07 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
| 18:18.10 | SecretNinja | thanks for the help |
| 18:18.18 | electron_ | So what, you can't play mp3s in 2.6.8? |
| 18:18.21 | electron_ | 2.4 kernel sucks, it's slow |
| 18:18.23 | stew | Zvpun: it was likely removed as part of the kde3.4 transition |
| 18:18.23 | l3m | Danar: the file ends in .tar.bz2? |
| 18:18.27 | SimonRaven | SecretNinja: known problem; might also want to choose etch, or hold off, since there was a problem with passwd (which is the package that the user setting stuff is in) |
| 18:18.32 | chealer | electron_, of course you can |
| 18:18.41 | electron_ | well, how can I make it work? |
| 18:18.57 | chealer | electron_, get a /dev/dsp |
| 18:19.04 | Greenx | hi, I want to know if there are some way to control the coolers of my notebook, i want they work full speed |
| 18:19.06 | goccia | Danar: are yoy pressing f3 or enter ? |
| 18:19.23 | electron_ | chealer, how do I get a /dev/dsp ? |
| 18:19.30 | chealer | electron_, I don't know. ask someone else why you wouldn't have a /dev/dsp under 2.6.8 |
| 18:19.33 | mirak | this command dosn't work : mount -t reiserfs -o ro,remount /dev/hda6 / |
| 18:19.33 | Danar | goccia, enter |
| 18:19.43 | mirak | I want to know how to remount / as readonly |
| 18:19.45 | goccia | so you'd better install bzip2 |
| 18:19.45 | valdyn | Greenx: if its not a thinkpad, i dont know |
| 18:19.50 | Danar | l3m, no, in .bz2 |
| 18:20.06 | Greenx | Valandil, is a hp pavilion |
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| 18:20.09 | Danar | l3m, well, .doc.bz2 |
| 18:20.13 | electron_ | Someone please, why don't I have a /dev/dsp under 2.6.8? |
| 18:20.14 | valdyn | mirak: mount -o remount,ro |
| 18:20.14 | linux_manju | mirak: init 1 and it will mount as ronly |
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| 18:20.32 | Zvpun | stew: doesn't that explain why the new version is not in testing, but not why the old one has been removed |
| 18:20.33 | mirak | linux_manju: you mean at boot or right now ? |
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| 18:20.43 | linux_manju | mirak: in normal mode its impossible to mount / as ro |
| 18:20.47 | SimonRaven | mirak: mount -o remount,ro / |
| 18:20.49 | linux_manju | mirak: either way it will do |
| 18:20.51 | Necato1 | electron_: did you try to run alsaconf? |
| 18:20.54 | Greenx | valdyn, its a hp pavilion |
| 18:20.59 | Zvpun | stew: never mind, i read your kde3.4 transition comment. |
| 18:20.59 | electron_ | nope |
| 18:21.01 | ArSn | Hey! What was the command to ad a IP to a network card in debian? |
| 18:21.03 | ArSn | Please help |
| 18:21.05 | ArSn | >_< |
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| 18:21.11 | linux_manju | SimonRaven: in normal mode you can not mount / as ro |
| 18:21.12 | lorijho_ | Hi to all, I hope you're having a good time! |
| 18:21.14 | electron_ | what else after that? |
| 18:21.22 | mirak | SimonRaven valdyn it says / is busy |
| 18:21.25 | lorijho_ | I have a question on an chroot jail install of debian |
| 18:21.28 | Greenx | valdyn, how do u do that in a thinkpad? |
| 18:21.29 | l3m | Danar: well if it's only one file in the .bz2 mc unzips it and displays it. is it one or multiple files ? |
| 18:21.33 | electron_ | Necato1, no, what should I do after I run that, anything else? |
| 18:21.35 | linux_manju | ArSn: ipconfig eth0 192.168.1.8 up |
| 18:21.39 | SimonRaven | mirak: what does? |
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| 18:21.47 | electron_ | I'll try |
| 18:21.48 | electron_ | brb |
| 18:21.54 | mirak | SimonRaven: mmm, what ? :) |
| 18:21.57 | ArSn | is this adding or changing? |
| 18:21.58 | sha1sum | for packages like gnome and kde that just refer to other packages, how do you tell what packages they refer to? |
| 18:22.07 | Danar | l3m, i bzipped a single doc, and tried to enter it with mc, and it just displays it as with view (f3) |
| 18:22.09 | SimonRaven | what says / is busy? |
| 18:22.13 | Zvpun | what is the name of the site with all versions of all packages? |
| 18:22.15 | lorijho_ | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-686 fails painfully with a strange error "Unknown DM Device 253:0 Failed to create initrd" |
| 18:22.18 | stew | ArSn: ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0 |
| 18:22.23 | ArSn | ah |
| 18:22.23 | ArSn | thx |
| 18:22.25 | chealer | sha1sum, you mean how to list their dependencies? |
| 18:22.26 | linux_manju | ArSn: both |
| 18:22.29 | mirak | SimonRaven: mount |
| 18:22.34 | Danar | l3m, that is, displays the bzipped file |
| 18:22.39 | valdyn | mirak: you would write "mount -o remount,ro /". |
| 18:22.40 | stew | ArSn: or create an alias: ifocnfig eth0:0 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:22.44 | l3m | Danar: yes it only shows the .bz2 as "archive" when you have multiple files ( as in a tar.bz2 ) |
| 18:22.54 | stew | ArSn: you can setup an alias in /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces) |
| 18:22.59 | sha1sum | chealer: are they just setup like dependencies? say, for example, that I wanted to install the 'gnome' package... how can I list what packages it installs? dependencies? |
| 18:23.04 | takatumi | Zvpun: /msg dpkg sdn |
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| 18:23.17 | linux_manju | we have a noc group which the reruning address is set to noc@mycom.com .. now when ever we login ( 5 people) each one of us is d/l the same capoies of mails from a remote mail server, is there a way that the group mails (i.e noc@mycomp.com) will be d/l once to a local server and we all rcv the mails from that one and individual mails d/l from the remote server |
| 18:23.26 | linux_manju | any idea how i can do that? |
| 18:23.26 | valdyn | sha1sum: apt-cache -s install gnome |
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| 18:23.30 | valdyn | sha1sum: apt-get -s install gnome |
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| 18:23.44 | Danar | l3m, i see |
| 18:24.02 | sha1sum | cool thanks |
| 18:24.07 | chealer | sha1sum, yes, the dependencies, which you can see for example with $ apt-cache depends foo |
| 18:24.11 | SimonRaven | .... |
| 18:24.19 | Danar | l3m, i thought i had seen zips and other compressed files in mc with only a single file... maybe i was mistaken |
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| 18:24.40 | l3m | Danar: hmm dunno i just checked with one and multiple files because i wasn't sure ;) |
| 18:24.53 | lorijho_ | has somebody encounterd : "Unknown DM Device 253:0 Failed to create initrd" while installing kernel-images in chroot jail. need help on that subject... |
| 18:24.54 | l3m | Danar: one file->display, multiple->directory view |
| 18:25.39 | Danar | l3m, actually i have. i just tested with a zip with only one file. it enters and lists the file |
| 18:25.41 | valdyn | lorijho_: your /dev/ in that jail probably does not fit your true /dev |
| 18:25.46 | sha1sum | okay, other question: is there a switch for apt-get to also install recommended and suggested packages? |
| 18:26.17 | valdyn | sha1sum: nope, but there is in aptitude |
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| 18:26.33 | valdyn | sha1sum: at least for recommended packages |
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| 18:26.40 | Danar | l3m, but not with bz files |
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| 18:26.56 | tico26 | any idea why a stock 2.4.27-2 debian sarge kernel won't successfully "vgscan" and "vgchange -a y vg00" my LVM1 VG (no, root is not on LVM)? (unmodified initrd, and the modules *are* loaded when the init stops) |
| 18:26.59 | lorijho_ | valdyn so I do an mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot_jail/root_fs ?? |
| 18:27.01 | Beefy | hi |
| 18:27.32 | Quibus | hi folks, is it normal that dist-ugprade does loads of weird stuff concerning KDE apps on my system? |
| 18:27.34 | valdyn | lorijho_: mount --bind /dev /mnt/chroot_jail/root_fs/dev ( no idea about -o bind ) |
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| 18:27.47 | l3m | Danar: well it's probably configureable somewhere... anyone, it's a reasonable behaviour since you can't copy-into-bz2's anyway ;) |
| 18:27.54 | chealer | Quibus, which release do you run? |
| 18:27.58 | shad0wcat | Quibus: dist-upgrade from what to what? |
| 18:27.58 | Quibus | testing |
| 18:27.59 | Bob332 | i have an encoded file, how do i decode it with uudecode |
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| 18:28.05 | Quibus | from yesterday's testing to today's |
| 18:28.09 | shad0wcat | Quibus: uhh |
| 18:28.10 | Quibus | sorry for unclarity |
| 18:28.13 | shad0wcat | dude it's TESTING |
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| 18:28.19 | shad0wcat | it's not supposed to work properly |
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| 18:28.22 | chealer | Quibus, it's probably normal then |
| 18:28.25 | EzoNaan | Hello. I am using a wl138g wireless card with ndiswrappers. "iwlist scanning" shows my wlan but when I try connecting to that wlan the settings don't stay. they go back to default (nothing) within few sec.. Ideas? |
| 18:28.34 | Quibus | I suppose not all depencendies are in yet or something |
| 18:28.35 | SerajewelKS | Quibus: kde in testing is broken right now |
| 18:28.40 | Beefy | um...i burned a CD image of debian 31r0a but when i put it into my laptop drive it didn't read it as a system drive nor when i put it into my WinXP machine and looked at it in Windows Explorer |
| 18:28.43 | Quibus | SerajewelKS: OK, any details? |
| 18:28.50 | shad0wcat | SerajewelKS: that's what I thought |
| 18:28.51 | SerajewelKS | Quibus: yes. stuff is missing. =) |
| 18:29.04 | SerajewelKS | good thing i asked #debian-kde before doing a dist-upgrade :> |
| 18:29.04 | shad0wcat | I run unstable because I want to use KDE 3.4 |
| 18:29.06 | Quibus | SerajewelKS: OK, then I will try to dist-upgrade again tomorrow :P |
| 18:29.18 | shad0wcat | SerajewelKS: or you could just take a look at the dependencies |
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| 18:29.31 | shad0wcat | if you don't understand what "UNSATISFIED" means, |
| 18:29.37 | lorijho_ | valdyn: mount --bind /dev /target/dev doesn't help same error |
| 18:29.37 | shad0wcat | you really shouldn't be using testing |
| 18:29.40 | Danar | l3m, well, i tried tarring it first, and now it enters. why can't you copy into bzip files? |
| 18:29.44 | moconnor | stew - Hey, FWIW, grabbing the latest sarge script didn't help (the diff between the two was just "ln -s" vs "ln -sf"). |
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| 18:29.49 | moconnor | stew - thanks though |
| 18:29.57 | CAiRO | hmm, what could be the cause that the mozilla acroread plugin only works if i go to 'about:plugins' first? |
| 18:30.00 | Beefy | does anybody know why my computers arent reading the disc? |
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| 18:30.07 | SerajewelKS | shad0wcat: i don't follow. how would looking at the dependencies help me not install KDE? |
| 18:30.07 | chealer | Quibus, ask #debian-kde if you really think something's weird |
| 18:30.25 | Quibus | chealer: if they alreayd know it's broken, I'll just await the fix :) |
| 18:30.39 | marculix | Beefy: more details, what kind of disc? CD-ROM, CD-AUDIO? |
| 18:30.52 | Quibus | OK, thanks, CU later folks |
| 18:30.52 | Beefy | CD-ROM |
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| 18:31.19 | Beefy | i burned it with Nero 6.6 Ultra |
| 18:31.31 | chealer | Beefy, if you burned a Debian ISO and Explorer can't read it, something must be wrong |
| 18:31.41 | marculix | did you tested the ISO before you burned it to disc? |
| 18:31.47 | Beefy | no |
| 18:31.47 | marculix | via loopback device? |
| 18:31.58 | marculix | do you still have the iso-image? |
| 18:31.59 | Beefy | no...whats that? |
| 18:32.02 | Beefy | yes |
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| 18:32.13 | shad0wcat | actually explorer should be able to read the cd |
| 18:32.14 | l3m | Danar: mc says "not implemented" |
| 18:32.24 | shad0wcat | just not execute anything from it (obviously) |
| 18:32.30 | oklinux | how long is a netinstall should take on a celeron 2700 512 ram ? |
| 18:32.31 | marculix | Beefy: you can test your iso-image as follows: mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro isoimage mountpoint |
| 18:32.32 | Danar | l3m, mine says error, doesn't exist |
| 18:32.50 | el_pimpo | Hi all, would it be a good idea to put my webserver in a DMZ and add iptables for security ? |
| 18:32.52 | EzoNaan | So. any clues why my iwconfig settings won't take? |
| 18:33.02 | Beefy | marculix: is that a linux command? |
| 18:33.07 | marculix | yes |
| 18:33.07 | Beefy | cuz im running windoes |
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| 18:33.08 | Beefy | windows* |
| 18:33.23 | marculix | then you're wrong here, go away ;-) |
| 18:33.25 | sha1sum | okay, so I'm unfamiliar with aptitude, but I'm sure there's a way to tell it to leave unused packages alone instead of marking them to remove... right? |
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| 18:33.44 | Beefy | what do u mean im wrong here? |
| 18:33.46 | electron_ | OH FUCK YES!!!! I FIXED IT! :) |
| 18:33.51 | lorijho_ | has somebody encounterd : "Unknown DM Device 253:0 Failed to create initrd" while installing kernel-images in chroot jail. need help on that subject... |
| 18:33.52 | electron_ | WOOO HOOOO!!!!! |
| 18:33.58 | sha1sum | w00t |
| 18:34.00 | sha1sum | good job |
| 18:34.03 | electron_ | you guys rock! |
| 18:34.03 | marculix | Beefy: hey chap, debian is linux, not windows |
| 18:34.17 | Beefy | i know...im trying to install it |
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| 18:34.20 | Necato1 | beefy: as you obviously have windoews installed, and tried to burn it from thre, try to look at the iso by using the deamon-tools ... and look if its ok. Nero should produce ok cds from isos (http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/announcements.php) |
| 18:34.30 | l3m | Danar: yeah or so, i just knew from memory |
| 18:34.31 | l3m | hehe |
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| 18:34.39 | Necato1 | @electron: cool ;-) |
| 18:34.45 | Danar | well thanks |
| 18:34.49 | Beefy | necato1: thanx |
| 18:34.54 | bmihevc | Hello |
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| 18:35.12 | cheal | oklinux: depends which part you're talking about. the longest part of a netinstall may be fetching the packages from the network |
| 18:35.32 | cheal | electron_: how did you fix it? |
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| 18:35.39 | electron_ | apt-get install alsaconf |
| 18:35.45 | electron_ | then ran alsaconf |
| 18:35.47 | electron_ | :) |
| 18:35.57 | cheal | electron_: oh, just that gave you a /dev/dsp ? |
| 18:36.13 | electron_ | So remeber, if someone asks about no mp3 on 2.6, alsaconf |
| 18:36.14 | electron_ | yep |
| 18:36.27 | oklinux | 472 packages cheal |
| 18:36.33 | electron_ | This is what my mate just told me, thrashbarg you dont have /dev/dsp in 2.6 because OSS is being phased out |
| 18:36.42 | electron_ | It's being phased out :/ |
| 18:36.53 | Beefy | necato1: should I download Daemon Tools (in the downloads section)? |
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| 18:36.59 | SerajewelKS | electron_: wtf... OSS emulation is NOT being phased out |
| 18:37.01 | Necato1 | alsaconf just makes shure, that all tzhe right modules are getting loaded for alsa ... so that halps most of the time |
| 18:37.02 | stew | moconnor: odd, sounds like a bad mirror maybe then |
| 18:37.38 | oklinux | hey Mr stew |
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| 18:38.03 | cheal | electron_: if you have sound problems later, you'd better tell us that /dev/dsp doesn't exist, or that sound doesn't work at all, than telling us that XMMS can't read MP3s |
| 18:38.12 | Necato1 | @beefy: i recommend them., Great for testing isos ... but they install a device-driver ... so, if you dare ... if not ... try to refetch that iso and burn it again ... preferrably on a cd-rw ;-) |
| 18:38.14 | Fox_1_ | vcd player? |
| 18:38.20 | electron_ | sorry mate |
| 18:38.47 | cheal | electron_: no problem...but "we" won't remember that "no mp3 on 2.6, alsaconf" |
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| 18:39.32 | Necato1 | bye all ... my stomach drives me away from the computer ;-) |
| 18:40.01 | mirak | SimonRaven: I got a broken reiserfs it's fixed now. But no major problem unlike you had :p |
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| 18:40.26 | Apollyon777 | Why does my printer prints a blank page? I think that it has anything to do with /etc/printcap. But I don't have this file. How can i solve this problem? any help? |
| 18:40.29 | Fox_1_ | i need VCD player. |
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| 18:41.03 | TiMiDo | Fox_1_ apt-cache search vcd |
| 18:41.07 | TiMiDo | !info vcd |
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| 18:42.13 | kimo | anyone knows of multimedia Linux tutorials ? |
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| 18:43.07 | webwolf_27 | kimo, not right off hand. what do you want to do |
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| 18:43.36 | anarcat | any idea why the kernel wouldn't be using the memory for buffers? |
| 18:43.38 | anarcat | ever? |
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| 18:44.03 | kimo | webwolf_27, actually I want to make Linux tutorial videos (coz I dont wanna type all that ;) So I wanted to take a look about older trials |
| 18:44.34 | webwolf_27 | kimo, show by doing |
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| 18:45.18 | kimo | sure, I just wanted to see how others did it! I am not sure, should I use video/or-vnc2swf, html or odt .... |
| 18:45.50 | goccia | html . plain white html |
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| 18:46.09 | webwolf_27 | kimo, html would make it available to the most people |
| 18:46.23 | abrotman | anarcat: you're not doing enough stuff ? |
| 18:46.36 | anarcat | abrotman, I highly doubt that |
| 18:46.47 | kimo | hmm, actually I was thinking of making something elaborate like writing all in xml & converting to different formats? any ideas? |
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| 18:46.49 | webwolf_27 | kimo, I was thinking of a linux tutorial for winsurfs, but I'm to busy coding |
| 18:46.50 | abrotman | anarcat: try to compile somthing ? |
| 18:47.02 | anarcat | abrotman, this is on a heavily loaded server |
| 18:47.16 | tha | oieeeeeeeeee tudo bem com vcsssss? |
| 18:47.27 | webwolf_27 | kimo, have fun ?? |
| 18:47.29 | azeem | !br |
| 18:47.30 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:47.30 | abrotman | anarcat: is swap being used ? |
| 18:47.35 | anarcat | abrotman, partly |
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| 18:47.38 | anarcat | yes |
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| 18:47.48 | anarcat | only 2megs though |
| 18:47.55 | electron_ | hmm |
| 18:48.02 | abrotman | anarcat: can you do something to make it swap ? |
| 18:48.10 | electron_ | my cdrom plays up in 2.6.8, like mounting an umounting |
| 18:48.12 | anarcat | hmmm... |
| 18:48.20 | anarcat | it's kinda stubborn, i could try |
| 18:48.25 | anarcat | i don't see the point, however |
| 18:48.25 | abrotman | stubborn ? |
| 18:48.29 | electron_ | I would be able to umount it and i get segmentation faults ect |
| 18:48.37 | electron_ | wont* |
| 18:48.41 | anarcat | well, the server has been relunctant to swap these days :) |
| 18:48.41 | abrotman | anarcat: a system i'm using here is using very little of the buffers |
| 18:48.45 | anarcat | which i consider a good thing |
| 18:48.57 | anarcat | abrotman, like 0k or "very little"? |
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| 18:49.06 | abrotman | anarcat: i can give you some source code to a storage class i wrote that will swap it like crazy :) |
| 18:49.07 | apecat | i'd like to ask one thing, i'm going to run debian on a pentium III 800 mhz as my webserver, which kernel should i use for best stability, 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 18:49.09 | anarcat | because here it's 0k and i've never ever seen it change |
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| 18:49.29 | abrotman | apecat: try both .. pick the best for your system |
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| 18:49.40 | Fubarovic | i need some help with my NFS exports: they mount fine but i can't see the contents |
| 18:49.42 | abrotman | anarcat: vmstat and free both say the same thing ? |
| 18:49.51 | cheal | electron_: whe do you get segfaults? |
| 18:49.53 | kimo | webwolf_27, how about which video/audio formats I should use |
| 18:49.54 | anarcat | yes |
| 18:49.56 | anarcat | abrotman, yes |
| 18:49.59 | Fubarovic | the directories list just fine on the server |
| 18:50.15 | webwolf_27 | kimo, avi and mpeg are well supported |
| 18:50.39 | abrotman | anarcat: strange indeed .. perhaps #kernel would have a way to test it ? |
| 18:50.41 | anarcat | abrotman, i don't see how swapping relates to buffer very well |
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| 18:50.59 | kimo | webwolf_27, eh, too old, low compression ration! How about H26 |
| 18:51.00 | abrotman | anarcat: only partially .. you're right .. it should be getting used |
| 18:51.14 | anarcat | abrotman, that's what I wanted to hear, thanks :) |
| 18:51.19 | anarcat | i'll head for #kernel |
| 18:51.24 | webwolf_27 | h26? |
| 18:51.25 | abrotman | anarcat: which buffers ? |
| 18:51.27 | sether | interesting... i wake up this morning, go to my computer and type `ls' and it says `bash: /bin/ls: Input/output error' and i'm like wtf. i look at tty1 and there are millions of errors that say `EXT3-fs error (device hda7) in start_transaction: Journal aborted' and i'm forced to hard reboot. i'm using Linux 2.6.8-2-k7 on Debian 3.1 |
| 18:51.35 | Beefy | question: i have a 266mhz proc. 32MB ramand a 2GB harddrive....will Debian fit/work on it? |
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| 18:51.43 | electron_ | trying to eject then moutn, it wount eject and it says it's not mounted |
| 18:51.44 | electron_ | rror loading '/home/electron/XMMS-node-1.0.pl': |
| 18:51.45 | abrotman | anarcat: from "free" .. you mean the buffers column or the buffers line ? |
| 18:51.46 | electron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.48 | electron_ | how can I fix that? |
| 18:51.49 | apecat | abrotman: mm'm well, what is usually better? i'm quite n00b, i don't know how i should compare. i just want a linuxbox in a corner to colelct a pretty uptime for me ;) |
| 18:52.01 | anarcat | abrotman, column |
| 18:52.07 | anarcat | abrotman, i don't clearly see the difference though |
| 18:52.09 | kimo | webwolf_27, that's a new codec (QT7 uses it &all newest formats) |
| 18:52.11 | abrotman | apecat: probably 2.4 .. 2.6 has better support |
| 18:52.11 | sether | does anyone have any idea what that could be? hda7 is /var on my machine |
| 18:52.17 | anarcat | abrotman, this is a 2.4.31, fwiw |
| 18:52.24 | goccia | electron_: are you trying to mount a audio cd ? |
| 18:52.31 | goccia | an* |
| 18:52.41 | anarcat | maybe we should deploy 2.6... |
| 18:52.43 | webwolf_27 | kimo, just remember users may not always be up2date |
| 18:52.45 | abrotman | anarcat: hrm .. all mine here are 2.6 |
| 18:52.48 | anarcat | right... |
| 18:53.12 | kimo | webwolf_27, yeah! too bad. I just adore living beyond the edge ;) Thanks for the help anyway |
| 18:53.13 | abrotman | sether: works fine now ? |
| 18:53.15 | Beefy | whats the min. system requierments for debian? |
| 18:53.34 | sether | abrotman: yes. |
| 18:53.34 | abrotman | anarcat: ask #kernel for some test to force it to use buffers |
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| 18:53.34 | webwolf_27 | kimo, then you should switch to fedora |
| 18:53.38 | anarcat | oklinux, thanks abrotman |
| 18:53.47 | abrotman | anarcat: which .. is pretty silly to say .. since it just should :) |
| 18:53.53 | electron_ | no |
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| 18:54.17 | marstewel | silly to say? |
| 18:54.29 | marstewel | hmm... like |
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| 18:54.34 | marstewel | According to some people, PCMCIA stands for People Cannot Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms :-) |
| 18:54.36 | marstewel | :P |
| 18:54.50 | cheal | electron_: that looks like an XMMS perl script issue |
| 18:55.11 | oklinux | anarcat why are you thanking me for ? |
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| 18:55.15 | electron_ | yeah, what do I need to apt-get to make it work? |
| 18:55.26 | electron_ | I got xmms-infopipe |
| 18:55.30 | marstewel | electron_: a valid sources.list, apt-get update |
| 18:55.35 | anarcat | oklinux, err... sorry, braindeadism of xchat :) |
| 18:55.37 | electron_ | doesn't work still |
| 18:55.54 | abrotman | oklinux: thanks |
| 18:56.06 | marstewel | heh |
| 18:56.20 | electron_ | cheal, yes, do you know what I need to get to make it work? |
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| 18:56.37 | abrotman | !find Xmms/Remote.pl |
| 18:56.51 | cheal | electron_: no |
| 18:56.58 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'Xmms/Remote.pl' returned no results. |
| 18:57.07 | abrotman | !find Xmms/Remote.pm |
| 18:57.08 | abrotman | duh |
| 18:57.10 | fabsmad | About install/remove apps: how can I remove an installed app? Often an install script put files into /usr/local, /usr/share/pixmaps, /bin, etc...is there a way to uninstall all these files with one command? |
| 18:57.16 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'Xmms/Remote.pm' (1): (/usr/lib/perl5/Xmms/Remote.pm) in perl/libxmms-perl. |
| 18:57.21 | abrotman | fabsmad: and how did you install them ? |
| 18:57.28 | cheal | electron_: that shouldn't really keep you from mounting or unmouting your CD though |
| 18:57.32 | electron_ | ahh |
| 18:57.38 | fabsmad | running a file.sh |
| 18:57.40 | apecat | well, i need to think about this. the tradeof of using 2.6 (for uptime-droolers) is that netcraft.com won't be able to show a nice graph of your webserver's uptime history |
| 18:57.46 | electron_ | nah it wasn't that, it was an mp3 cd |
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| 18:57.51 | electron_ | the cdrom locks up |
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| 18:58.24 | apecat | well, i have strange 'needs', i know :) |
| 18:58.37 | fabsmad | abrotman: from shell, running a specific installfile.sh |
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| 18:58.51 | abrotman | fabsmad: if it doesn't ahve a uninstall.sh .. you're stuck ... |
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| 18:58.58 | abrotman | fabsmad: next time .. look at stow or checkinstall |
| 18:59.06 | fabsmad | no uninstall file! |
| 18:59.14 | fabsmad | thanks |
| 18:59.32 | abrotman | fabsmad: if it put it all in /usr/local/ .. you'll have better luck removing it manually |
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| 19:01.32 | wasabi_ | Howdy. I'm looking for a simple program I suspect exists I just don't know it's name yet. ;) I want to run a command, and have that program watch that command and restart it if it exits, and make a log if it does, etc. |
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| 19:01.51 | wasabi_ | I'd imagine it would function a lot like "start-some-program /usr/bin/real_program args" |
| 19:01.59 | electron-a | thanks alot for the help guys, bbl. |
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| 19:03.21 | stew | wasabi_: man inittab and look for respawn |
| 19:03.28 | electron-a | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.28 | electron-a | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
| 19:03.42 | clars | to reconfigere the base system, what is the command? |
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| 19:04.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167097&cid=13931576 |
| 19:04.16 | electron-a | clars, dpkg-reconfigure base |
| 19:04.18 | electron-a | ? |
| 19:04.20 | goccia | electron-a: eject /media/cdrom |
| 19:04.27 | azeem | electron-a: you sure that works? |
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| 19:04.52 | azeem | tix64: are you from France? |
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| 19:05.04 | electron-a | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.05 | electron-a | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
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| 19:05.15 | tix64 | azeem: nope. why do you ask? |
| 19:05.27 | electron-a | clars, it might be base-system |
| 19:05.50 | azeem | tix64: hrm, smashes my theory that only french people have IRC nicks with a power of 2 at the end |
| 19:05.54 | azeem | tix64: sorry then |
| 19:05.59 | electron-a | see what I mean, 2.6.8 makes my cdrom lock up |
| 19:06.06 | electron-a | its a new burner too |
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| 19:06.25 | stew | azeem: bob 2 also doesn't work with your theory |
| 19:06.29 | goccia | electron-a: check /media : running ls /media you should see a cdrom symlink to cdrom0 |
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| 19:06.33 | azeem | hrm |
| 19:06.36 | azeem | d'oh :) |
| 19:06.41 | wobbler | electron-a: /usr/bin/eject should work |
| 19:06.45 | electron-a | it's not mounted |
| 19:06.47 | azeem | powers of 2 >= 4 then :) |
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| 19:07.06 | electron-a | /usr/bin/eject |
| 19:07.06 | electron-a | /usr/bin/eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
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| 19:07.18 | goccia | it does'n matter : no nedd for a cd to open it up |
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| 19:08.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: looking |
| 19:08.13 | electron-a | I just have to reboot to access my cdrom |
| 19:08.13 | wobbler | electron-a: that seems like its not seeing the cdrom |
| 19:08.16 | ^bob | is there something equiv to mkfile on solaris in linux? just for testing, not for swap. |
| 19:08.23 | electron-a | I can mount it and shit |
| 19:08.32 | electron-a | then SOMETIMES it does this, not ALWAYS. |
| 19:08.56 | electron-a | not it wont let me mount it again |
| 19:09.02 | electron-a | now* |
| 19:09.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: be glad it's not goatse ;) |
| 19:09.19 | bibe | hi all. is it possible to install openoffice 2 onto a sarge system? is it better to rely on backported binaries or to build it from sources? |
| 19:09.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: yes .. thank you :) |
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| 19:09.54 | wobbler | electron-a: just log out and back maybe it will reset |
| 19:10.06 | tarzeau | bibe: i wouldn't build it from source. but what is so much better that you need 2 instead of the one in sarge? |
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| 19:10.11 | electron-a | Anyone here from Australia? |
| 19:10.28 | valdyn | bibe: there's an oo2 backport already? |
| 19:10.44 | abrotman | bibe: if you wait a bit .. it may appear at backports.org |
| 19:11.17 | bibe | tarzeau : opendocument support, and since I will use it on my laptop I'd like to test new features |
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| 19:11.33 | tarzeau | bibe: good luck |
| 19:11.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: if he waits a little longer , he can have etch |
| 19:11.52 | bibe | tarzeau : thanks |
| 19:12.10 | abrotman | tarzeau: yeah ,, i know |
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| 19:12.31 | electron-a | Anyone used that MS 2003? |
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| 19:12.34 | mith | =/ |
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| 19:12.43 | tarzeau | electron-a: yes, but that doesn't belong here but ##windows |
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| 19:12.45 | electron-a | How does it work for a server, just in DOS or something? |
| 19:12.47 | valdyn | electron-a: wth would that be? |
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| 19:13.08 | asg | electron-a: try #windows |
| 19:13.11 | valdyn | electron-a: are you joking? |
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| 19:13.21 | tarzeau | asg: lilo took down #windows |
| 19:13.26 | electron-a | lol |
| 19:13.36 | asg | tarzeau: really, I see. |
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| 19:13.42 | asg | electron-a: try efnet, #windows |
| 19:13.57 | korhalf | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:13.57 | korhalf | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.57 | korhalf | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 19:14.09 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 19:14.09 | dpkg | sid faq is, like, http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 19:14.27 | korhalf | I'm also having an issue with frozen-bubble-data |
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| 19:14.40 | LSorensen | electron-a: windows server is regular windows with a few added features and a much higher price tag and a nastier license requriement for using it. |
| 19:14.40 | electron-a | I don't need help, I was just laughing at windows for a server |
| 19:14.43 | korhalf | it keeps trying to install a new version and failing, which is stopping my other packages from getting installed |
| 19:14.54 | shawng | hey ok im missing something here |
| 19:15.09 | electron-a | yeah so its still runing Explorer |
| 19:15.11 | electron-a | GAY! |
| 19:15.21 | tarzeau | !gay |
| 19:15.21 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 19:15.28 | LSorensen | electron-a: of course. it is windows after all |
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| 19:15.33 | asg | !tell ArSeN[aWaY] about away |
| 19:15.44 | LSorensen | electron-a: 2003 is XP + some improvements |
| 19:15.45 | korhalf | !dumb |
| 19:15.55 | shawng | got a new zarus...well old but new to me..when i fire up the usb0 network device on my laptop, i cannot actually connect to my zarus on the usb network device untell i shout down the eth0 device |
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| 19:16.01 | electron-a | I'd rather use DOS for a server then windows |
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| 19:16.17 | LSorensen | electron-a: dos doesn't even have a clue about networks |
| 19:16.18 | shawng | i have to set up the laptop as a router im guessing |
| 19:16.19 | tarzeau | electron-a: than |
| 19:16.28 | abrotman | electron-a: DOS has no native network stack |
| 19:16.31 | LSorensen | electron-a: besides isn't that what novell did? |
| 19:16.32 | electron-a | yeah, they should have worked on dos more |
| 19:16.35 | abrotman | mmm .. maryland package |
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| 19:16.53 | electron-a | LSorensen, tell me about Novell |
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| 19:17.03 | korhalf | http://pastebin.com/415087 |
| 19:17.16 | asg | electron-a: abend, weekly reboots (all you ever needed to know about Netware) |
| 19:17.21 | korhalf | Theres the message i get when trying to install kugar for database reporting..i also get it when trying to install any new package for that matter. |
| 19:18.04 | electron-a | I can't wait to get my VAX and try out OpenVMS :)) |
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| 19:18.53 | korhalf | I'm just trying to use SugarCRM in a way that suits the company better |
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| 19:19.12 | korhalf | I mean, it's good for bug tracking, but then people want the reports to be compiled in a neat way, and apt-get is giving me errors.. |
| 19:19.33 | korhalf | Even if i go and find the .deb, its going to give me dependency errors so if i can just get rid of this frozen bubble shit. |
| 19:19.37 | korhalf | that'd be great. |
| 19:19.51 | LSorensen | korhalf: dpkg --purge brokenpackagename |
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| 19:20.13 | korhalf | http://pastebin.com/415087 |
| 19:20.24 | korhalf | which would be frozen-bubble-data_1.0.0-6_all.deb in this case? |
| 19:20.53 | korhalf | got an error. |
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| 19:22.14 | korhalf | LSorensen, I still get the error, and I purged frozen-bubble which seems to be the offending package. |
| 19:22.22 | Beefy | hey can PCMCIA cards for high-speed internet work on Linux? |
| 19:22.34 | korhalf | Yes. |
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| 19:22.45 | Beefy | cool ty |
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| 19:22.54 | korhalf | No problem. |
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| 19:24.06 | dmack | HELP |
| 19:24.26 | Beefy | wohoo my iso disc is working!....i think |
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| 19:25.06 | dmack | i need help with getting my mouse to work |
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| 19:25.37 | Beefy | nvm bout the iso disc |
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| 19:25.50 | nkuttler | dmack: /msg dpkg faq |
| 19:26.05 | dmack | ??? |
| 19:26.21 | nkuttler | !tell dmack about faq |
| 19:26.22 | Beefy | um question: why is my computer freesing on the BIOS screen? where it asks if you want to boot fromo CD.... |
| 19:26.23 | bucky | dmack, did you compile your own kernel? |
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| 19:26.38 | dmack | no |
| 19:27.10 | dmack | its off iso disk im running dabian with the (xserver) gpm |
| 19:28.02 | bucky | dmack so your mouse isn't working in the console.. is that what you're saying? |
| 19:28.20 | dmack | yup |
| 19:28.21 | EzoNaan | Hello. I am using a wl138g wireless card with ndiswrappers. "iwlist scanning" shows my wlan but when I try connecting to that wlan the settings don't stay. they go back to default (nothing) within few sec.. Ideas? |
| 19:28.29 | dmack | in the gui part |
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| 19:28.42 | dmack | iv tryed all i can do.. |
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| 19:29.15 | bucky | dmack did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 19:29.32 | dmack | um no |
| 19:29.35 | dmack | brb |
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| 19:30.23 | dmack | it tells me its locked |
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| 19:31.52 | Beefy | what version of linux do u guys reccomend for beginners? |
| 19:32.13 | bucky | linux |
| 19:32.35 | Beefy | ...just linux? |
| 19:32.36 | bucky | GNU/Linux |
| 19:32.54 | kimo | Beefy, www.opensuse.org |
| 19:32.56 | outlaw84 | bucky: Debian |
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| 19:33.23 | e2e | Hi, traceroute command turns only asteriks, like this "6 * * *". All 14, or 20 lines same... What could be the problem? |
| 19:33.24 | bucky | outlaw84, is that GNU/Linux |
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| 19:33.54 | asg | e2e: there is no route, the ICMP packets used are being blocked, etc. |
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| 19:34.19 | e2e | asg: From where? |
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| 19:34.34 | asg | e2e: upstream routers, your firewall, their firewall. |
| 19:34.35 | outlaw84 | bucky: ofcoure.. the complete name is Debian GNU/Linux |
| 19:34.38 | electron-a | e2e, type route, then do route add default gw 'ip that shows up from route' |
| 19:34.49 | electron-a | I had this problem |
| 19:35.03 | outlaw84 | bucky: well that is one branch of debian... |
| 19:35.05 | dmack | any one know how to get a ps2 trackball mouse working on linux gnome display manager |
| 19:35.05 | abrotman | !tell hx30 about root |
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| 19:35.22 | abrotman | dmack: /dev/input/mice |
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| 19:37.03 | dmack | what program do i use to reconfinger |
| 19:37.17 | e2e | electron-a: Default route is my adsl modem |
| 19:37.17 | abrotman | !drxx dmack |
| 19:37.19 | Sloyment | Huhu, I cannot find a package like kernel-image-2.6.*-k6 What am I supposed to use instead? |
| 19:37.21 | dpkg | dmack: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:37.32 | abrotman | Sloyment: in etch or sid ? |
| 19:37.41 | abrotman | oh wait .. there are no -k6 packages iirc |
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| 19:38.24 | Sloyment | abrotman: Why are there no -k6 packgs? |
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| 19:39.17 | e2e | asg: I don't think all nodes doing same thing, i can't get any info but asteriks. So i think the problem is my box or adsl modem, but don't know whichone |
| 19:39.30 | abrotman | Sloyment: i don't think they did anything to the CPU to require anything that substantial |
| 19:39.31 | fbi | reconfinger, eh. |
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| 19:39.35 | silvercat | Hey. do I need the SMP-kernel to use the hyperthreading cpus? |
| 19:39.37 | fbi | gonna have to try that one on my old lady |
| 19:39.39 | abrotman | !ht |
| 19:39.39 | dpkg | it has been said that ht is Haiti. HyperThreading, a technology from intel included in processors from the P4 3.05 GHz, that emulates two processors in a single cpu machine You must enable CONFIG_ACPI_HT, CONFIG_SMP and CONFIG_CPU_LOBOTOMY in your kernel to use it. |
| 19:39.49 | abrotman | silvercat: try it with and without |
| 19:39.57 | asg | e2e: well, if the first thing in your traceroute is not your default gateway and it shows as asterisks, it is local. If you haven't tweaked your kernel or firewall settings, the problem is likely your modem |
| 19:40.02 | dmack | it tesll me its locked do i have to get out of xserverr? |
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| 19:40.39 | kingmike | Hi. I cant get php to work in apache 1.3. When I try to open php files from my browser, it wont execute the code, but asks me if I want to download the php file |
| 19:40.49 | asg | kingmike: install libapache-modphp4 |
| 19:40.51 | kingmike | May I need to install packages ? What packages ? |
| 19:40.53 | asg | kingmike: install libapache-mod-php4 |
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| 19:41.05 | kingmike | asg : done it already |
| 19:41.13 | ecobit | dpkg -S /etc/mailcap |
| 19:41.13 | ecobit | dpkg: /etc/mailcap not found. |
| 19:41.14 | dpkg | Badgers ate my /etc/mailcap! |
| 19:41.14 | asg | kingmike: restart apache. Clear your browser cache |
| 19:41.16 | eean | how do you get a file listing for a given debian package? |
| 19:41.18 | e2e | asg: Thanks... |
| 19:41.28 | asg | eean: dpkg -L <pkg> |
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| 19:41.48 | Sloyment | abrotman: So what should I use then? -386? |
| 19:41.57 | dmack | how do i get to just root and not running thou xserver |
| 19:42.00 | abrotman | Sloyment: that would be my guess ... |
| 19:42.05 | asg | dmack: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 19:42.10 | Sloyment | :o( |
| 19:42.26 | Sloyment | OK then... |
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| 19:42.27 | ecobit | anyone? |
| 19:42.33 | kingmike | asg : it doesnt work |
| 19:42.35 | Sloyment | Thanks, abrotman |
| 19:42.39 | asg | Sloyment: you won't notice a marked difference. If it makes you happy, compile your own k6 kernel afterwards |
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| 19:43.57 | Sloyment | OK, I'll try -386. |
| 19:44.00 | asg | kingmike: verify that /etc/apache/modules.conf contains the LoadModule for php4. Verify that /etc/apache/httpd.conf contains a correct 'AddType' stanza for .php files |
| 19:44.35 | apecat | i've got another question concerning my soon to be up'n-running uptime colelctor file/web/ftp/secondary desktop linux box. which file system should i use for maximum stability and reliability. i will run the system on one physical hd and homedirs/webfiles on another. ext3 or reiserfs? |
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| 19:44.51 | asg | apecat: ext3 for stability |
| 19:44.54 | fbi | !ricerfs |
| 19:44.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
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| 19:45.26 | apecat | okey |
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| 19:46.24 | underduck | halloo lieve glox |
| 19:46.27 | apecat | most of my friends prefer resierfs and been using that on everything since i installed suse and later slackware |
| 19:46.30 | kingmike | asg : my modules.conf didnt have a LoadModule php4. It works now. Thanks |
| 19:46.32 | youssef | Can someone help me configuring my printer ? |
| 19:46.35 | asg | kingmike: you're welcome |
| 19:46.39 | resiak | !tell youssef -about ask |
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| 19:46.48 | asg | underduck: er, last thursday I think |
| 19:47.00 | ecobit | kingmike: man aenmod |
| 19:47.16 | youssef | I have an ethernet printer connected to a hub. When I print, it prints only one line/page |
| 19:47.40 | abrotman | bad driver? |
| 19:47.49 | Gathond | bad file? |
| 19:48.31 | resiak | bad mojo? |
| 19:48.35 | asg | mojo jojo? |
| 19:48.44 | resiak | XH |
| 19:48.45 | Gathond | bad printer? |
| 19:48.47 | resiak | erm |
| 19:48.49 | resiak | s/H/D/ |
| 19:48.59 | youssef | it is a Lexmark E323. There are no driver on linuxprinting |
| 19:49.25 | asg | youssef: lexmarks notoriously don't work with Linux and even some version of Windows |
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| 19:49.54 | asg | youssef: if linuxprinting.org doesn't know about it, then it most likely will not work. Google may also be helpful. |
| 19:50.03 | youssef | asg, it worked on Mandrake 10.0 which I installed more than one year ago |
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| 19:50.24 | scott_ | hello |
| 19:50.42 | scott_ | houstan we have a problem |
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| 19:50.52 | asg | scott_: you forgot to install dict |
| 19:50.53 | youssef | hello scott |
| 19:51.01 | dmack | how do i get into a locked config file |
| 19:51.07 | asg | youssef: then try foomatic and gimp-print drivers and see if you have better luck |
| 19:51.13 | youssef | thanks |
| 19:51.15 | asg | dmack: locked in what way? |
| 19:51.24 | dmack | read only |
| 19:51.30 | kimo | what's a good video capture/encode edit utility? |
| 19:51.38 | scott_ | i dont have a bios now it appears.. grub takes over even before i can hit delete to get into bios... the splash screen comes up almost immeadiately |
| 19:51.40 | asg | dmack: man chmod |
| 19:52.04 | dmack | ok |
| 19:52.13 | resiak | !tell youssef_away -about away |
| 19:52.28 | asg | dmack: if you are root and can't edit a file, man lsattr and make sure immutable bits are not set on the file |
| 19:52.42 | scott_ | my bios is set to boot from cd, but when i put in a linux install cd.. mepis grub screen comes on right away |
| 19:52.44 | asg | dmack: also, verify the filesystem on which the file resides is not mounted read-only |
| 19:52.48 | resiak | !mepis |
| 19:52.49 | dpkg | MEPIS is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system. Uses KDE by default, and includes the NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. It also includes a custom installer on the KDE desktop, with simple LILO configuration. See http://www.mepis.org. It is NOT real Debian, attempts to use apt-get with Debian mirrors will meet with a world of hurt. /join #mepis |
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| 19:54.24 | asg | scott_: is this a laptop? |
| 19:54.51 | lightbright | I want to copy an exact mirror image of my 20gig hdb to my 10gig hda. And then load Debian from hda. Will this command do that: cp -fra /mnt/old /mnt/new ? |
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| 19:55.38 | asuffield | lightbright: cp -ax . /target |
| 19:55.39 | kenboo | 20gig image to 10gif hd? |
| 19:55.49 | scott_ | its a tower |
| 19:56.16 | lightbright | asuffield: how is that different from cp -fra /mnt/old /mnt/new ? |
| 19:56.17 | scott_ | asg: its got m_pis 3.1 and cd is first boot device |
| 19:56.45 | underduck | i have downloaded last month 500 terrabite |
| 19:56.48 | asg | scott_: maybe the cd you put in isn't bootable or was burned incorrectly. If you put your mepis disc in, does it boot from CD? |
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| 19:56.52 | ecobit | lightbright: or rsync -av /mnt/old/ /mnt/new/ |
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| 19:57.00 | lightbright | asuffield: will cp -ax support copying everything from differernt size hard drives so I can load Debian from hda instead? |
| 19:57.18 | scott_ | asg no it wont boot from the same mepis cd i installed from |
| 19:57.33 | lightbright | ecobit: how is rsync -av /mnt/old/ /mnt/new/ different from cp -fra /mnt/old /mnt/new ? |
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| 19:57.59 | scott_ | asg: I want to reinstall but the usual routine of hitting delete and entering bios doesnt work |
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| 19:58.13 | asg | scott_: well, that's just odd. Try fully powering off the machine, let it sit for 20 seconds and then power it on again. Also, try holding whatever key exists to enter your bios immediately after poweron |
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| 19:59.06 | ecobit | lightbright: i would also do a symlinks -crv /mnt/old before the sync |
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| 19:59.28 | lightbright | ecobit: why wouldnt this work to do the job: cp -fra /mnt/old /mnt/new ? |
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| 19:59.46 | scott_ | asg: yes .. i tried that and tried Holding.... delete down...and tried hitting it repeatidly, but no effect.. the grub screen flashes up right away and wants to boot mepis that is installed but xwindows is corrupted |
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| 20:00.09 | elephantman | How can i retrieve system locales ? |
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| 20:00.13 | ecobit | scott_: don't know the BIOS setup key sequence? |
| 20:00.18 | scott_ | so i just wanted to reinstall, it should be set to boot from cd as i never changed any bios settings |
| 20:00.24 | elephantman | I mean how characters are encoded on the system ? |
| 20:00.40 | scott_ | ecobit: how do u mean? |
| 20:00.41 | Garp | Question: My cdrom is not in dma mode by default. I can manually type: "hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc", but where should I put that for this to stay accross reboots? Is there a standard way to do this? Thanks. |
| 20:01.18 | Garp | hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc |
| 20:01.24 | youssef_away | where is best place to ask about printing ? |
| 20:01.26 | elephantman | Is it bad to have the system encoding characters in UTF-8, then the database encoding in iso-8859-1, then an application encoding in iso-8859-15 ? |
| 20:01.33 | elephantman | This is a point i don't get |
| 20:01.33 | caphuso | Garp: /etc/hdparm.conf |
| 20:01.40 | lightbright | ecobit: i dont think symlink and rsync supports copying from 2 different size hard drives |
| 20:01.40 | elephantman | How can this be bad ? |
| 20:01.49 | scott_ | i tried going in and manually deleting grub |
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| 20:02.00 | elephantman | Is this totally independant |
| 20:02.10 | elephantman | Or all layers must have the same encoding ? |
| 20:02.14 | ecobit | elephantman: not if you've generated the locales on your system. use localeconf |
| 20:02.37 | electron-a | how do I specify the port when sshing? |
| 20:02.38 | LSorensen | scott_: delete from where? |
| 20:02.44 | electron-a | say the port is 34562 |
| 20:02.48 | electron-a | not 22 |
| 20:02.52 | LSorensen | electron-a: like ssh user@host:port ? |
| 20:03.03 | LSorensen | electron-a: never tried |
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| 20:03.24 | electron-a | Name or service not known |
| 20:03.28 | fbi | man ssh tells you, right at the top. |
| 20:03.29 | scott_ | delete on the keyboard... on boot start.. to enter bios.. doesnt work (did thousands of times) BUT NOT NOW |
| 20:03.31 | valdyn | electron-a: all 3 things you mentioned naturally can have different encoding |
| 20:03.34 | youssef_away | I give up |
| 20:03.36 | scott_ | SORRY |
| 20:03.41 | LSorensen | electron-a: -p port ? |
| 20:03.42 | pitillo | electron-a, ssh -p port host |
| 20:03.42 | valdyn | elephantman: all 3 things you mentioned naturally can have different encoding |
| 20:03.48 | valdyn | elephantman: ops sry |
| 20:03.51 | scott_ | i deleted grub from /boot folder |
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| 20:04.04 | lightbright | scott_: why would you do that? |
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| 20:04.16 | fbi | scott_: so boot with a livecd and fix it. |
| 20:04.18 | scott_ | because its a lost cause already |
| 20:04.32 | scott_ | i just wanted to get the live cd to boot to reinstall |
| 20:04.36 | ecobit | scott_: then your keyboard is not connected or else somehow your bios got set to a different value. you can manually reset it using the bios jumper |
| 20:04.45 | pascal_13 | : /join #debian-fr |
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| 20:05.04 | scott_ | but grub splash screen was coming on regardless of hitting delete or waiting for the live cd to boot |
| 20:05.12 | LSorensen | scott_: unless the drive is to be not bootable, you just install something else in the MBR to replace grub as the booter |
| 20:05.22 | LSorensen | scott_: is the bios set to boot cd first? |
| 20:05.28 | scott_ | yes |
| 20:05.33 | LSorensen | scott_: is the cd bootable? |
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| 20:05.42 | scott_ | it was... is What im trying to say |
| 20:05.48 | scott_ | i didnt change it |
| 20:05.54 | LSorensen | scott_: worth checking anyhow |
| 20:05.55 | lightbright | scott_: your cd is not bottable |
| 20:05.57 | scott_ | the cd is bootable |
| 20:06.02 | txz | where does debian define the alias for eth0 and eth1? |
| 20:06.09 | ecobit | scott_: WTF does the grub loader have to do with getting into the BIOS??? |
| 20:06.19 | LSorensen | scott_: if your hd has noting on it, it will skip it and try the next boot device. once something bootable is on it, it won't skip it anymore |
| 20:06.19 | scott_ | i tried other bootable cd's as well |
| 20:06.29 | lightbright | scott_: if your bios has cd to boot as #1 and yet your cd wont boot, that means theres an error on your "bootable" cd |
| 20:06.47 | scott_ | okay i'll try something else |
| 20:06.50 | lightbright | scott_: or you didnt set it properly in BIOS |
| 20:07.10 | fbi | scott_: boot your net-install cd, chroot, re-install grub |
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| 20:07.13 | fbi | what is so hard about that |
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| 20:07.30 | fbi | who cares about your bios, get grub installed |
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| 20:08.10 | lightbright | fbi: lol |
| 20:08.36 | scott_ | why can't enter bios |
| 20:08.40 | theine | Is it possible to boot .iso images located on the hard disk using syslinux/memdisk? |
| 20:08.47 | fbi | you're like a broken record. |
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| 20:08.54 | nico8481 | hi |
| 20:08.56 | Anthro | Does someone have an URL to a .c file with a GPL header handy? |
| 20:08.58 | lightbright | scott_: what? you mean you never been into your BIOS before? |
| 20:09.24 | lightbright | scott_: you told us you been into your BIOS already and changed to boot from CD |
| 20:09.30 | lightbright | scott_: did you lie? |
| 20:09.35 | scott_ | since i put mepis on there is no way into bios |
| 20:09.57 | fbi | mepis? hahahahahaha *plonk* |
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| 20:10.25 | Lopuz | how do i change my X cursor? |
| 20:10.27 | lightbright | scott_: it seems you are trolling |
| 20:10.34 | Anthro | txz: It usually doesn't. There's some magic involved. You can force it, however, in /etc/modutils/aliases (and run update-modules). |
| 20:10.43 | fbi | Lopuz: you install a new one |
| 20:10.59 | scott_ | lightbright: no does it sound like im joking, or even laughing |
| 20:11.10 | txz | Anthro: Thanks thats what I was thinking just wanted to double check. |
| 20:11.28 | Lopuz | fbi, i have installed artwiz-cursor |
| 20:11.29 | resiak | scott_: Are you sure that your CD image is burned correctly? |
| 20:11.31 | Lopuz | with apt-get |
| 20:11.39 | Lopuz | how do i get it working? |
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| 20:11.45 | scott_ | i cant boot, or reinstall, because mepis put grub in such a way that i cant enter the bios, i am as a matter of fact listening closely |
| 20:11.51 | toupeira | hi |
| 20:11.52 | valdyn | Lopuz: run 'update-alternatives --list x-cursor-theme' and read the update-alternatives-manpage |
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| 20:11.57 | resiak | scott_: It DID NOT. No OS could do that. |
| 20:11.58 | valdyn | Lopuz: run 'update-alternatives --list x-cursor-theme' and read the update-alternatives manpage |
| 20:12.02 | fbi | Lopuz: your cursor should have changed, mine did |
| 20:12.10 | Lopuz | okay :) |
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| 20:12.15 | Lopuz | havent restarted X yet |
| 20:12.20 | scott_ | that same cd is on 2 other machines, plus i put in a known to work mandrake install cd.. it wont boot from cd, and i cant enter bios |
| 20:12.23 | nico8481 | deconnected :( |
| 20:12.37 | scott_ | sorry to bring such a lame problem to the discussion,\ |
| 20:12.38 | lightbright | scott_: you are trolling, because first you told us you changed the bios to boot from CD as #1, and then you say you installed that crap Mepis, and since then you cant now enter your BIOS. You are trolling |
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| 20:12.53 | electron-a | 3.99.8 is pre-pre-pre-pre-beta |
| 20:12.55 | scott_ | lightbright relax |
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| 20:12.59 | scott_ | im not a troll |
| 20:13.02 | electron-a | it's going to be buggy as all fuck |
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| 20:13.07 | electron-a | oops |
| 20:13.09 | electron-a | wrong channel |
| 20:13.10 | toupeira | what's the debian way to set nic-configuration with MAC-address, so the order of the eth devices doesn't depend on the order the driver got loaded (which isn't always the same with the latest version of udev)? |
| 20:13.11 | scott_ | i said the bios was set to boot from cd.. |
| 20:13.14 | resiak | scott_: Dude. You are just pressing the wrong key to get into the bios. |
| 20:13.15 | valdyn | scott_: mepis _cannot_ modify your boot process in a way that alters how you get into your bios |
| 20:13.31 | lightbright | scott_: instaling mepis wouldnt stop you from entering your BIOS |
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| 20:13.52 | scott_ | what do u hit? delete right... i even just changed keyboards to make sure... |
| 20:14.01 | resiak | It is DIFFERENT on DIFFERENT machine |
| 20:14.14 | scott_ | can i wipe the drive and put a new .. or reset the bios,, and start again? |
| 20:14.25 | lightbright | scott_: its you, not u |
| 20:14.28 | nkuttler | scott_: sound like you have hardware issues |
| 20:14.33 | Garp | caphuso: thanks. |
| 20:14.34 | Beefy | it can be delete, f2, f12, etc. |
| 20:15.20 | scott_ | f2 worked! |
| 20:15.26 | scott_ | thats wild.. thanks.. |
| 20:15.32 | Garp | bebye. |
| 20:15.40 | scott_ | delete was what i hit for the last 100 times i went into bios.. |
| 20:15.42 | scott_ | weird |
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| 20:16.02 | Beefy | scott: np |
| 20:16.08 | scott_ | but thanks!.. now i can check for boot cd |
| 20:16.48 | lightbright | scott_: why would you need to check? you told us you already changed it to boot from CD |
| 20:17.26 | scott_ | dude |
| 20:17.31 | nico8481 | lightbright, you seem to like proper english, I got a question about it :) |
| 20:17.36 | nico8481 | is there a hack phrase in english to say that when one likes something, he spares no expense? something like "who likes doesn't count" (which is the literal translation of the French hack phrase for it)? |
| 20:17.37 | scott_ | i said that i didnt change anything |
| 20:17.56 | scott_ | it was set to boot from cd.. lightbright why do you have a hate on for me |
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| 20:18.22 | scott_ | people were helpful.. i am thankful.. problem solved.. why jump on me and call me a troll and berate me? |
| 20:18.42 | scott_ | thanks room |
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| 20:19.18 | BlackJudas | !room |
| 20:19.18 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 20:19.28 | scott_ | in bios setup it now says first boot device disabled.. even though before it was set to cd |
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| 20:19.43 | lightbright | nico8481: what was the question? :) |
| 20:19.49 | nkuttler | nico8481: go to a (university) library and read some dictionary of idioms or idiomatic expressions |
| 20:19.54 | lightbright | scott_: are you on drugs? |
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| 20:20.20 | scott_ | lightbright are you on linux? |
| 20:20.33 | lightbright | scott_: yes Debian, not that crap Mepis :) |
| 20:20.35 | scott_ | linux users usually stick together, but not you |
| 20:20.42 | nico8481 | lightbright, the question was "what's the hack phrase in english to say that?" :-) |
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| 20:20.47 | nkuttler | scott_: nobody cares about your wrong settings. you know they are wrong. fix them. |
| 20:20.52 | lightbright | nico8481: no idea, sorry |
| 20:20.52 | scott_ | thanks for the insults and putdowns lightbright |
| 20:21.05 | nico8481 | ok thx anyway |
| 20:21.09 | scott_ | i did, and im super thankful and all |
| 20:21.21 | lightbright | scott_: nobody has put you down, your low self-esteem makes it feel like people are putting you down, thats all |
| 20:21.36 | scott_ | but why be so crusty |
| 20:21.38 | scott_ | oh well |
| 20:21.58 | scott_ | im out of here thanks lightbright you fucking windows using maggot |
| 20:22.12 | stephan__ | Hello, I'm Stephan from Germany (europe, earth, universe 1) |
| 20:22.16 | thingfish | kids these days. |
| 20:22.21 | lightbright | thingfish: lol yeah |
| 20:22.27 | lightbright | i dont even use windows :P |
| 20:22.53 | Tortel | !windwos |
| 20:23.00 | Tortel | !windows |
| 20:23.00 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 20:23.01 | lightbright | i wouldnt use ms windows if you gave me a free version of it |
| 20:23.11 | lightbright | Tortel: lol, good one |
| 20:23.12 | Tortel | i would install it |
| 20:23.22 | Tortel | but use it only for playing BF2 |
| 20:23.45 | abrotman | stephan__: universe 2 .. duh |
| 20:23.50 | fbi | trashing microsoft products is not only pointless, but it's also boring. |
| 20:23.56 | stephan__ | Is here anybody who speak german?` |
| 20:23.59 | abrotman | let's trash the fbi! |
| 20:23.59 | Laocoon | Hi there! |
| 20:24.00 | abrotman | !gr |
| 20:24.00 | dpkg | methinks gr is Greece, or General Relativity, or General Resolution |
| 20:24.01 | fbi | i will always have use for windows |
| 20:24.01 | abrotman | err |
| 20:24.03 | abrotman | !de |
| 20:24.03 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 20:24.08 | fbi | !kill abrotman |
| 20:24.11 | Laocoon | !fr |
| 20:24.12 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 20:24.21 | Laocoon | Huhu, nice try... :b |
| 20:24.22 | Fox_1_ | can i run licq under x window, but in console mode? |
| 20:24.37 | fbi | wtf is licq |
| 20:24.43 | abrotman | !info licq |
| 20:24.44 | resiak | Yay for questions that make no sense |
| 20:24.46 | nkuttler | sounds like an icq client |
| 20:24.48 | ^bob | at any rate, i'm still looking for a way to make populated files ni linux. i've used mkfile in solaris, what can i use in linux? |
| 20:24.49 | dpkg | licq: (ICQ client (base files)), section net, is optional. Version: 1.3.0-4 (sid), Packaged size: 620 kB, Installed size: 2004 kB |
| 20:24.54 | abrotman | nice |
| 20:24.58 | ^bob | ni=in |
| 20:25.04 | fbi | another totally unnecessary package |
| 20:25.06 | abrotman | ^bob: populated with what ? |
| 20:25.13 | nkuttler | Fox_1_: try centericq? |
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| 20:25.17 | abrotman | fbi: unnecessary protocol :) |
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| 20:25.21 | fbi | indeed |
| 20:25.24 | resiak | bitlbee! |
| 20:25.25 | Fox_1_ | nkuttler whats that? |
| 20:25.34 | ^bob | abrotman: zeros work. |
| 20:25.34 | nkuttler | Fox_1_: apt-cache show package |
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| 20:25.49 | abrotman | ^bob: dd if=/dev/zero of=<yourfile> |
| 20:25.51 | Laocoon | grrr, wrong LANG parameter here, brb |
| 20:25.51 | Esaj | where can I get a .deb for mozilla-firefox RC1? |
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| 20:26.19 | lightbright | Esaj: whats mozilla-firefox RC1? |
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| 20:26.28 | Esaj | lightbright: mozilla firefox 1.5 RC1 |
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| 20:26.46 | ^bob | abrotman: yep, just thought of that. thanks. |
| 20:26.48 | lightbright | Esaj: whats RC1 mean? |
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| 20:26.52 | abrotman | !rc |
| 20:26.52 | dpkg | hmm... rc is for Release-critical, or Release Candidate |
| 20:26.55 | Esaj | lightbright: release candidate 1 |
| 20:26.58 | lightbright | ah ok |
| 20:27.03 | lightbright | thanks |
| 20:27.12 | abrotman | Esaj: from experimental .. use at your own risk |
| 20:27.14 | lightbright | learning something new every single day :) |
| 20:27.31 | abrotman | (though it might not be RC1 .. it is some 1.5 beta-ish thing) |
| 20:27.44 | Spudchat | i have firestarter running on this machine configured to share my wireless interent connection with the wired nic and the computer that im sharing the connection with is able to ping all local hosts but cannot access outside hosts |
| 20:27.45 | abrotman | !info mozilla-firefox experimental |
| 20:27.49 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.4.99+1.5beta2.dfsg-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 7632 kB, Installed size: 21996 kB |
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| 20:27.59 | Spudchat | any thought? |
| 20:28.14 | Esaj | abrotman: no it doesn't seem to be in experimental |
| 20:28.18 | SimonRaven | enable NAT and ip forwarding |
| 20:28.37 | abrotman | Esaj: that's not it ? |
| 20:28.44 | abrotman | Esaj: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=mozilla-firefox |
| 20:28.46 | Esaj | abrotman: no that's beta 2 I think |
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| 20:29.03 | Spudchat | in the firestarter config or on the other computer? |
| 20:29.21 | abrotman | Esaj: the only other place i can think of is apt-get.org .. |
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| 20:30.03 | mirak | hey |
| 20:30.07 | abrotman | Esaj: but i think you're right about it being beta2 ... |
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| 20:30.19 | mirak | anyone can copi a sources.list line, I deleted my file :-/ |
| 20:30.21 | rking | is there a way to query dns to find out all the names that map to a given IP? |
| 20:30.26 | abrotman | Esaj: sorry .. it was just a hunch |
| 20:30.26 | abrotman | mirak: apt-setup |
| 20:30.28 | pattieja | SimonRaven, about the backports and apt-get.org, I'm running sarge on the webserver, so I don't know if woody packages are what I need? |
| 20:30.34 | mirak | abrotman: ok |
| 20:31.03 | Esaj | abrotman: np, I'm sure it will be updated soon |
| 20:31.03 | abrotman | pattieja: check the /pending folder? |
| 20:31.33 | abrotman | pattieja: if you read the front page .. it explains it |
| 20:32.17 | marstewel | pattieja: check packages.dotdeb.org |
| 20:32.24 | abrotman | Esaj: you could ask the maintainer when he expects it .. though i'm sure you'll get the "WIR" response :) |
| 20:32.50 | marstewel | dotdeb.org is based upon sarge |
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| 20:33.05 | abrotman | the /pending of backports.org is all sarge stuff |
| 20:33.20 | marstewel | has mysql 5, php4/5 in its repository |
| 20:33.44 | abrotman | sarge has php4 |
| 20:33.55 | marstewel | abrotman: I know but in a different version ;) |
| 20:34.01 | abrotman | and i'm still undecided if php5 is usable for production |
| 20:34.07 | abrotman | http://www.backports.org/pending/ |
| 20:34.16 | abrotman | and .. who cares about mysql5 ... |
| 20:34.19 | marstewel | abrotman: 4.4.1 |
| 20:34.24 | abrotman | marstewel: and ? .. waht ? |
| 20:34.37 | Fox_1_ | nkuttler thanks, it's really good soft:) |
| 20:34.37 | marstewel | nothing :) |
| 20:34.42 | abrotman | !sns syndrome |
| 20:34.42 | dpkg | sns syndrome is, like, a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Software Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
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| 20:34.56 | marstewel | lol abroatman |
| 20:35.17 | abrotman | fbi: see! |
| 20:35.20 | marstewel | I dont use PHP 5 or MySQL 5 ... |
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| 20:35.38 | marstewel | but I *know* some ppls want bleeding-edge stuff... |
| 20:35.38 | alistair | oh mad,/dev/dsp was not found, it was fine last boot |
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| 20:36.11 | alistair | probably cause i clicked cancel when amarok needed root to run a session, anybody can help me? :D |
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| 20:36.28 | enveezee | probably the same kind of people that can't spell people. |
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| 20:36.50 | marstewel | enveezee: heh |
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| 20:37.36 | marstewel | enveezee: do not mix lazyness (typing) or typing mistakes or foreign speakers and people wanting to use bleeding-edge stuff |
| 20:38.33 | DesScorp | Afternoon |
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| 20:40.15 | enveezee | marstewel: no, candy was trick yesturday or treat halloween happy? badger, badger, MUSHROOM, snake, badger, MUSHROOM |
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| 20:40.49 | marstewel | not everybody is in this halloween bullshit :) |
| 20:41.17 | enveezee | its not that everybody wants bullshit in this halloween! |
| 20:41.18 | Fox_1_ | what this warning means? [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab |
| 20:41.22 | marstewel | heh |
| 20:41.40 | marstewel | Fox_1_: add a nl... |
| 20:41.40 | harleyg | can someone help me? |
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| 20:41.41 | marstewel | harleyg: ask |
| 20:41.42 | harleyg | with my wireless card |
| 20:41.49 | harleyg | on my laptop running win98 |
| 20:42.02 | harleyg | i have a new orinoco card, i have thr drivers/client |
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| 20:42.14 | harleyg | but when it asks for my wep key, my max chars is 10, so im confused |
| 20:42.28 | harleyg | what do i put in, it asks for an acsii code or a hex |
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| 20:42.29 | abrotman | how many chars is your key ? |
| 20:42.30 | marstewel | win98? well you are in the wrong chan... |
| 20:42.33 | abrotman | harleyg: HEX |
| 20:42.42 | Fox_1_ | i couldn't mount my floppy drive. it's write: mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified |
| 20:42.47 | harleyg | yesyes win98, it wont run linux :) |
| 20:42.57 | resiak | Fox_1_: mount -t somefstype blah blah blah |
| 20:42.58 | harleyg | no but really, my wep key is around 24chars..... |
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| 20:43.51 | harleyg | anyone? |
| 20:43.57 | Fox_1_ | i format disk with kfloppy formater and set fs type dos. |
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| 20:44.07 | pattieja | abrotman, thanks. However, /pending on backports does not have any of the packages that I need. (I.e., updated apache/apache-ssl, mod_php4, etc.) |
| 20:44.24 | lewis | does top always show the correct CPU usuage? |
| 20:44.44 | abrotman | pattieja: what do you want an updated apache for? |
| 20:44.48 | harleyg | what does it mean by key |
| 20:44.55 | abrotman | pattieja: sarge has apache2 and php4 .. |
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| 20:44.58 | harleyg | passphrase? wepkey? wpa key? |
| 20:45.09 | pattieja | abrotman, nessus scans say it's old and has a medium level vulnerability |
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| 20:45.19 | abrotman | pattieja: says which is old ? |
| 20:45.25 | pattieja | 1.3.33 |
| 20:45.28 | abrotman | pattieja: and version numbers mean nothing in debian |
| 20:45.32 | Jetty | hi all |
| 20:45.36 | ^bob | why does cat /dev/random give me no output? |
| 20:45.42 | Jetty | plz help me |
| 20:45.46 | abrotman | pattieja: you've been using security.debian.org in your sources ? |
| 20:45.56 | pattieja | abrotman, it also says that I have a version of PHP4 older than or equal to 4.3.2, but I have the 4.3.10-16 package installed from stable |
| 20:45.57 | Jetty | i'm wanna to build debian package |
| 20:46.00 | pattieja | abrotman, yes |
| 20:46.03 | harleyg | common please help :) |
| 20:46.17 | pattieja | abrotman, our webserver is being attacked through apache |
| 20:46.24 | enveezee | heh |
| 20:46.25 | abrotman | pattieja: attacked how ? |
| 20:46.28 | abrotman | http://www.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-805 |
| 20:46.38 | abrotman | http://www.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-789 |
| 20:46.39 | Jetty | build from source,. |
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| 20:46.56 | Garp | Hi again... Not finished with this dma stuff. |
| 20:47.04 | pattieja | abrotman, not sure. I installed snoopy and determined that the attacker is able to access a shell as UID=33 which is www-data. The files he installs in /tmp are owned by www-data |
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| 20:47.15 | cheal | ^bob: are you sure? it doesn't just give it slowly? try just moving the mouse |
| 20:47.33 | abrotman | pattieja: this doesn't mean the apache you're running is inherently insecure .. you could have a vuln in anything .. including your own PHP code |
| 20:47.51 | Jetty | I'm using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 20:47.55 | pattieja | abrotman, ok |
| 20:48.05 | abrotman | pattieja: try to find out which page he's accessing .. |
| 20:48.18 | pattieja | abrotman, I'm going to attempt to install grsecurity2, but I am unable to successfully patch the 2.4.27 Debian kernel |
| 20:48.21 | ^bob | cheal: i don't have a mouse or keyboard. |
| 20:48.25 | pattieja | abrotman, how can I do that? |
| 20:48.29 | Garp | As root, i type: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc (my DVD-ROM). If I do hdparm /dev/hdc I see (as expected): using_dma = 1 (on). I now start xine as user, and start reading a DVD. I look at the dma status again and I read: using_dma = 0 (off). Any explanation? Thanks. |
| 20:48.33 | abrotman | pattieja: in your apache logs ? |
| 20:48.50 | abrotman | pattieja: dpkg -l php4 | tail -1 |
| 20:48.52 | pattieja | k. I'll try to correlate the IP address I found in snoopy logs with apache logs |
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| 20:48.59 | abrotman | pattieja: dpkg -l apache2-common | tail -1 |
| 20:49.00 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: you here? |
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| 20:49.11 | pattieja | abrotman, returns nothing |
| 20:49.15 | pattieja | uninstalled |
| 20:49.17 | abrotman | pattieja: which does ? |
| 20:49.20 | pattieja | dpkg |
| 20:49.26 | abrotman | no .. for which packag e? |
| 20:49.28 | pattieja | un php4 <none> (no description available) |
| 20:50.01 | abrotman | pattieja: how about dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php4 | tail -1 |
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| 20:50.20 | Jetty | Who known what is broken into new dpkg-buildpackage ???? |
| 20:50.24 | pattieja | abrotman, I'm not running apache2, just apache and apache-ssl |
| 20:50.28 | abrotman | pattieja: how about dpkg -l libapache-mod-php4 | tail -1 |
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| 20:51.19 | pattieja | abrotman, no correlation in /var/log/apache/access.log with the attackers IP address of the host he communicated with to give a shell to on my box. I will look at /var/log/apache-ssl/access.log now |
| 20:51.23 | SerajewelKS | Jetty: you'll get a better answer if you ask a coherent question |
| 20:51.23 | abrotman | pattieja: how about dpkg -l libapache-mod-php4 | tail -1 |
| 20:51.42 | pattieja | ii libapache-mod-ph 4.3.10-16 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (a |
| 20:51.50 | lorijho_ | can sombody share his/her experience compiling the cloop module, package cloop-src. I am stuck here... any help is appreciated! |
| 20:52.07 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: is this a kernel module? |
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| 20:52.20 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, yes it is! |
| 20:52.22 | sha1sum | does anybody know of an RSS feed generator with a GUI interface? |
| 20:52.31 | pattieja | lorijho_, make sure that you have the correspondingly correct versions of tools and module. cloop doesn't like backwards compatibility, in my experience |
| 20:52.31 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: how are you building it? |
| 20:52.52 | lorijho_ | pattieja, ?? |
| 20:52.55 | Laocoon | Garp: did you check that your DMA was activated on your HD? Provided, of course, that you're not using a SATA HD... |
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| 20:53.01 | abrotman | pattieja: and dpkg -l apache | tail -1 |
| 20:53.15 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, i am following instructions in README of cloop-src |
| 20:53.19 | pattieja | abrotman, even with that "version" of mod_php4 installed, nessus thinks I'm running php 4.3.2 or earlier |
| 20:53.29 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: does that involve 'make' or 'm-a a-i cloop'? |
| 20:53.29 | Jetty | SerajewelKS: i need to make deb package. i have source code which build and install correctly. I read "Making A Debian Package" from official site, but i get strange error: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakerootparsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted heading line, at changelog line 3 dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package is |
| 20:53.30 | pattieja | ii apache 1.3.33-6sarge1 versatile, high-performance HTTP server |
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| 20:53.44 | Garp | Laocoon: it's a DVD drive, on IDE. |
| 20:53.49 | bucky | lorijho_, http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cloop |
| 20:54.04 | SerajewelKS | bucky: this is debian, not knoppix |
| 20:54.04 | pattieja | abrotman, with just sarge and security in sources.list, I've been at apt-get dist-upgrade nothing to do for about 2 - 3 weeks |
| 20:54.04 | abrotman | pattieja: telnet <serverip> 80\nHTTP 1.1\n |
| 20:54.07 | Laocoon | Garp: and you're HD is also on IDE, with DMA activated? |
| 20:54.08 | abrotman | pattieja: what does it say ? |
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| 20:54.34 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, make KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 20:54.35 | Garp | Laocoon: Hummm, yes, both of my DD are |
| 20:54.43 | lorijho_ | bucky, thx! |
| 20:54.45 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: try using m-a to build it |
| 20:54.45 | Garp | s/DD/HD/ |
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| 20:54.49 | pattieja | <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.33 Server at nn.nnn.nnn Port 80</ADDRESS> |
| 20:54.49 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: m-a a-i cloop |
| 20:55.00 | abrotman | pattieja: did you type HTTP 1.1 ? |
| 20:55.03 | pattieja | yes |
| 20:55.11 | abrotman | >Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.10-16 mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e Server |
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| 20:55.14 | abrotman | that's what mine says |
| 20:55.25 | pattieja | wow |
| 20:55.29 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: maybe 2.0 uses a different signature? |
| 20:55.30 | abrotman | pattieja: you know how to make a phpinfo page ? |
| 20:55.35 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: tis possible |
| 20:55.43 | pattieja | abrotman, I don't remember |
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| 20:55.58 | SerajewelKS | pattieja: echo '<?php phpinfo() ?>' > info.php |
| 20:56.01 | foo | Someone have the bot tell me about java |
| 20:56.07 | SerajewelKS | pattieja: and put info.php in your webroot |
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| 20:56.12 | abrotman | pattieja: make a phpinfo.php that has in it "<? phpinfo(); ?> " then load it in your browser |
| 20:56.13 | foo | wait, got it. |
| 20:56.14 | foo | Nevermind |
| 20:56.33 | Laocoon | Garp: ok, so there's something wrong with the ide-cd module somewhere. Did you loaded the right module for your chipset? Sometimes, DMA's not fully supported until the chipset IDE module is loaded... |
| 20:56.51 | pattieja | abrotman, k |
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| 20:57.35 | abrotman | pattieja: what does it say at the top of the page ? |
| 20:57.36 | Garp | Laocoon: I'll have a look for "modules" and "my chipset" and I come back if I still have questions, thanks :) |
| 20:57.39 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, Warning, /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source! ??? |
| 20:57.52 | pattieja | abrotman, PHP Version 4.3.10-16 |
| 20:58.01 | Laocoon | Garp: You should try an lspci to try and find the chipset used on your motherboard |
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| 20:58.20 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: you shouldn't need the kernel source, only the headers |
| 20:58.30 | pattieja | abrotman, further down the page I see under the 'apache' section: |
| 20:58.32 | pattieja | Apache Version Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.10-16 mod_perl/1.29 |
| 20:58.47 | pattieja | but the telnet did not reveal that |
| 20:58.48 | Laocoon | Garp: it may also a problem if you loaded ide-scsi for scsi emulation on your drive... |
| 20:58.49 | Garp | Laocoon: yes, that's what I'm going to do first. Thanks for the help. |
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| 20:59.12 | Laocoon | Garp: That's nothing my little Garpounet. Btw, still around Angers? :b |
| 20:59.23 | Garp | Laocoon : to read USB mass storage? Like: scsi_mod 138184 2 sd_mod,usb_storage |
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| 20:59.52 | Laocoon | Garp: nope, scsi_mod is ok, it should be ide-scsi, if I remember well... Lemme check |
| 20:59.58 | Garp | Laocoon: Humm... I'm a registered user as Garp (even if not authentified yet) on freenode, but I cant recall you... |
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| 21:00.47 | Laocoon | Garp: you might have recycled that particular neurone, we just met one day while I was visiting Myriam... :b |
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| 21:00.59 | Garp | (some used to call me garpounet, right - faurt etre francais pour dire ca = ;) |
| 21:01.20 | Tortel | Some call me Tortel |
| 21:01.30 | abrotman | pattieja: i'd try to find the page that the guy is using .. or anything in your apache logs .. or you could try ippl to log all connections(it gets big very fast) |
| 21:01.31 | Tortel | Others call me just plain stupid or weird |
| 21:01.33 | Garp | OK :) #france25+ etc.. |
| 21:01.34 | wicto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:01.38 | Garp | I have to go. bebye |
| 21:01.39 | Laocoon | Garp: Bingo! :) |
| 21:01.42 | abrotman | !moron Tortel |
| 21:01.43 | Garp | (ma femme est rentrée) |
| 21:01.43 | dpkg | Tortel: You are moron #81 |
| 21:01.44 | abrotman | :) |
| 21:01.48 | Laocoon | Garp: keep me updated! :) |
| 21:02.05 | Tortel | !loon Tortel |
| 21:02.09 | Tortel | :( |
| 21:02.44 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, m-a a-i --kernel-dir=/usr/include/linux/ cloop gives me "Warning no valid kernel source tree..." |
| 21:03.04 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: do you have the required kernel headers installed? |
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| 21:03.56 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, i'll check that... |
| 21:03.59 | Garp | (re) |
| 21:04.15 | Laocoon | Garp: ok, checked: it's ide-scsi... |
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| 21:04.41 | pattieja | abrotman, is ippl configurable to only listen to port 80? |
| 21:04.57 | Laocoon | Garp: btw, you should add the -d1 in /etc/default/hdparm, it's a more clean way to activate dma |
| 21:05.01 | abrotman | pattieja: yeah .. i think it is .. there may be other IP loggers .. but i've used ippl in the past |
| 21:05.17 | Garp | Laocoon: I'll do that. |
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| 21:05.32 | Garp | Laocoon: as soon as it *works*... |
| 21:05.38 | Laocoon | Garp: or even better: /etc/hdparm.conf |
| 21:05.55 | cheal | ^bob: create some activity on the system |
| 21:06.04 | Laocoon | Garp: grr, msg blocked and I'm not registered... :b |
| 21:06.06 | cheal | ^bob: by running an updatedb or something |
| 21:06.12 | Garp | Laocoon: yes, thats' where I was told to put this |
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| 21:06.29 | Garp | Laocoon : too bad (but I'm right?) |
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| 21:08.18 | liran_ | im kind of low on hd space... how can i remove big packages? (i mean, how can i see how big is a packge, or list the biggest one) |
| 21:08.46 | abrotman | start with deborphan |
| 21:08.53 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 is currently installed, I have now added kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686, m-a a-i --kernel-dir=/usr/include/linux cloop gives the error "/usr/include/linux is not a valid kernel source tree" you should know that I am working in chroot jail and that the underlying system runs a different kernel |
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| 21:09.23 | cheal | liran_: did you clean apt's cache? (man apt-get, look for clean) |
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| 21:10.23 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: as long as the jailed kernel version is the one you want to build the module for... |
| 21:10.26 | liran_ | cheal, havent done that but i want to free up a few hundred megs. like i got kde and gnome while constantly using gnome i figured im going to remove kde completely, but thats one thing... |
| 21:10.35 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: but i've never messed around with chroot crap so i don't know |
| 21:10.46 | liran_ | so basically i can aptitude remove every package deborphan lists...? |
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| 21:11.24 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, I have to mess around with it because I'm building a minimal debian base system that will boot of an usb key... |
| 21:11.26 | cheal | liran_: if you haven't done it apt-get clean will help you a lot |
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| 21:11.54 | SerajewelKS | lorijho_: well good luck with that =) |
| 21:12.01 | pattieja | abrotman, had you told me about snoopy the other day? |
| 21:12.15 | abrotman | pattieja: doubtful |
| 21:12.21 | pattieja | someone in here did |
| 21:12.31 | pattieja | it has a 'sid' associated with some of the output |
| 21:12.34 | abrotman | why do you ask ? |
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| 21:12.41 | pattieja | what is 'sid'? |
| 21:12.42 | abrotman | oh |
| 21:12.48 | abrotman | sessionID ? |
| 21:12.51 | abrotman | maybe .. unsure |
| 21:12.53 | pattieja | yes |
| 21:12.57 | pattieja | someone else said that |
| 21:13.01 | pattieja | what does it represent? |
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| 21:13.14 | pattieja | a continuous stream of commands for a given process? |
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| 21:13.21 | abrotman | dunno .. i don't use snoopy .. i use a baseball bat :) |
| 21:13.38 | pattieja | i.e., every time a "command" is issued from the same "session" it has to be the hacker, for example? |
| 21:14.02 | abrotman | pattieja: dunno .. i don't use it .. did maybe .. SimonRaven tell you about it ? |
| 21:14.11 | freedom101 | hi, i have played with qemu (like launch the partition that i was already on) and now when i boot my partition is in read-only but see from a other partition its writeable you have a idea what is the problem? |
| 21:14.11 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 21:14.11 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 21:14.22 | Beefy | oy |
| 21:14.26 | Beefy | dpkg, i live in canada |
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| 21:14.49 | Beefy | and u know what? contrary to common american conseption, u cant go for a sunday afternoon drive to alaska |
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| 21:14.56 | freedom101 | yeah there is quebec :p |
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| 21:16.00 | efaistos | how do you convert flac files to mp3 |
| 21:16.01 | efaistos | ? |
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| 21:17.13 | Beefy | lol |
| 21:17.18 | Beefy | flac is a mp3 codec |
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| 21:20.36 | wazzles | flac is not an mp3 codec |
| 21:20.39 | wazzles | sorry beefy |
| 21:20.42 | mhall | Hello all. What can I do to find and strip xattr attributes from directory trees on my box? I am switching from beagle to kat and I want to get rid of any cruft left behind. |
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| 21:21.07 | efaistos | wazzles, do u know how then ? |
| 21:21.21 | wazzles | yes |
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| 21:21.29 | SimonRaven | mhall: lemme guess, cat is better than beagle? as in, it works |
| 21:21.31 | wazzles | go to etree.org |
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| 21:21.45 | Andy837 | how can i connect to linux (CLI) from windows (to load VNC) |
| 21:21.50 | mhall | SimonRaven: Well I can't guarantee this. |
| 21:21.57 | mhall | SimonRaven: But it's the word on the street. |
| 21:22.02 | stew | Andy837: use putty to ssh into the linux box |
| 21:22.12 | Andy837 | define: putty |
| 21:22.12 | wazzles | efaistos: on that site they have a set of scripts called "etree-scripts" |
| 21:22.20 | stew | Andy837: google it |
| 21:22.25 | mhall | SimonRaven: Also, it supports OpenDocument. |
| 21:22.31 | stew | Andy837: it will be the first hit |
| 21:22.34 | wazzles | and when you install the scripts, you can then go into a directory and type "unflac" |
| 21:22.39 | SimonRaven | mhall: opendoc? |
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| 21:22.45 | mhall | SimonRaven: Which will be very helpful because I am in the process of converting leftover proprietary documents into this format. |
| 21:22.59 | mhall | SimonRaven: And kat will give me full indexing of these along with KDE integration. |
| 21:23.05 | SimonRaven | ah, a Good Thing [tm] |
| 21:23.09 | mhall | SimonRaven: And inotify support to dynamically update over time. |
| 21:23.13 | SimonRaven | (open format ;) |
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| 21:23.18 | SimonRaven | ooh nice. |
| 21:23.19 | stew | Andy837: you will need to install the ssh package on the linux box if you are running stable, or openssh-server on testing or unstable |
| 21:23.30 | DesScorp | putty is an essential tool in any heterogeneous network with a windows box |
| 21:23.32 | mhall | SimonRaven: It will waste some resources but at least it will be better than wasting my own human resource searching for shit all over my drive. |
| 21:23.45 | mhall | DesScorp: Say it again, more times, and louder. |
| 21:24.01 | mhall | DesScorp: I used it every workday for 8 months, probably 7.5 hrs per day. |
| 21:24.02 | dan321 | I've just upgraded testing and now I get a freeze at startup at the "detecting hardware..." prompt. Any ideas? |
| 21:24.06 | SimonRaven | it ain't in debian yet |
| 21:24.11 | mhall | SimonRaven: no it's not |
| 21:24.27 | mhall | SimonRaven: there are people trying to get sponsored so they can add it to experimental |
| 21:24.33 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 21:24.34 | mhall | SimonRaven: but this has not yet occurred |
| 21:24.37 | beardy | !putty |
| 21:24.37 | dpkg | i guess putty is a DFSG-free ssh/telnet/rsh client for Windows. It is small, simple, and has no install nonsense. Available at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ |
| 21:24.39 | DesScorp | ummmm |
| 21:24.40 | mhall | SimonRaven: meanwhile i have a fucking mess of a drive |
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| 21:24.45 | DesScorp | putty is a win app |
| 21:24.47 | SimonRaven | sooner or later =) |
| 21:24.51 | DesScorp | unless they have a linux port now |
| 21:25.02 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 21:25.03 | mhall | DesScorp: and a large company forced me to use Windows |
| 21:25.06 | beardy | DesScorp: They do. |
| 21:25.10 | bucky | putty is a rip off of ssh |
| 21:25.14 | mhall | SimonRaven: so i want to clean it up asap |
| 21:25.18 | mhall | bucky: it's superior to ssh |
| 21:25.18 | DesScorp | i just use ssh in linux |
| 21:25.36 | DesScorp | but putty is pretty much the main way to go in windows |
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| 21:25.42 | beardy | bucky: rip off? It's a client. So, which of the popular browsers are a rip off of "web"? ... |
| 21:25.46 | bucky | yeah right and yum is superior to apt-get |
| 21:25.46 | mhall | DesScorp: every other windows ssh client is crap |
| 21:26.03 | mhall | bucky: meh, putty has a superior interface |
| 21:26.07 | mhall | bucky: yum does not |
| 21:26.07 | DesScorp | i wonder if services for unix has an ssh client.... |
| 21:26.11 | DesScorp | gotta look that up |
| 21:26.25 | mhall | DesScorp: apparently ms has desupported it and quit offering releases |
| 21:26.34 | mhall | DesScorp: oh well i don't use their stuff anymore so i don't care |
| 21:26.37 | bucky | DesScorp, you mean SFU Stallman Fuck You ? |
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| 21:27.06 | DesScorp | they killed SFU, or ssh support in SFU? |
| 21:27.25 | mhall | DesScorp: apparently SFU in general |
| 21:27.25 | DesScorp | because SFU will become a standard part of Longhorn server |
| 21:27.40 | bucky | embrace and extend |
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| 21:27.43 | mhall | DesScorp: it's funny to watch them admit that unix is relevant |
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| 21:27.49 | SimonRaven | grr, i thought i had a patch for this, but i still get the fucking error |
| 21:27.51 | SimonRaven | error: array type has incomplete element type |
| 21:27.58 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau hello. are you here? |
| 21:28.00 | lorijho_ | SerajewelKS, i figured it out, thx for the m-a a-i tip, turned out that i had to create the same user in chroot jail as the current logged in user on the underlaying system and i forgot to install debhelper |
| 21:28.02 | SimonRaven | gcc 4 whinging |
| 21:28.04 | mhall | DesScorp: now we wait for them to admit that windows is irrelevant, or at least that it should be |
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| 21:28.05 | DesScorp | well, whats funny is that unix is how NT got it's foot in the corporate door |
| 21:28.20 | abrotman | what channel did i enter? |
| 21:28.21 | DesScorp | NT's claim to fame was that it played well with other OSs in the data center |
| 21:28.32 | DesScorp | looking at networks today, that's kind of ironic |
| 21:28.40 | SimonRaven | some winblows fanboy... |
| 21:29.20 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: yes i am. hello |
| 21:29.22 | bucky | NT lied.. it wasn't posix.. it wasn't anything |
| 21:29.26 | Laocoon | Garp: ok, brb in a minute, router is acting up |
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| 21:29.37 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau how are you? |
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| 21:29.49 | sgeigerbot | !seen thomas_adam |
| 21:29.49 | dpkg | thomas_adam <n=n6tadam@82-71-33-83.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 9d 7h 15m 35s ago, saying: 'dpkg: seen kawfee?'. |
| 21:30.02 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: he's been in other channels since i think |
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| 21:30.13 | Garp | (that's OK) |
| 21:30.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'd like one of strawberry |
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| 21:30.57 | DesScorp | did cygwin have ssh? |
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| 21:31.32 | Bolding | !gentoo |
| 21:31.32 | dpkg | i heard gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 21:31.46 | Bolding | !greenhouse |
| 21:31.46 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 21:31.49 | RogueDopple | how do you boot a cd <test> |
| 21:31.50 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau listen can you change something in http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/index.it.html#am ? |
| 21:31.50 | Bolding | there it was |
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| 21:31.53 | Knorrie | hi, on my etch box i got an upgrade of suphp, it has some runtime configuration file, i set check_vhost_docroot=false, but suphp is still complaining about Script blah not within configured docroot |
| 21:32.02 | Knorrie | (yes, i restarted apache) |
| 21:32.03 | DesScorp | add this definition.... |
| 21:32.06 | nomichan_ | hey. i'm trying to create some initrd. ping, wget and friends won't resolve hostnames even if the /etc/resolv.conf is the same file as the one in a "real" setup, therefore correct. pinging the nameserver works just fine. any ideas? |
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| 21:32.49 | DesScorp | Gentoo User: One who thinks watching hours and hours of compile scroll makes him a L337 H@x0r |
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| 21:33.08 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: no, i can't |
| 21:33.29 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau and who can? |
| 21:33.32 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: debian-www@lists.debian.org |
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| 21:33.41 | N0S1 | i need a msn client , i need access it remote under ssh , and when I finish, to leave it running as demon, keeping the received messages |
| 21:33.55 | mhall | DesScorp: _so_ true |
| 21:34.04 | SerajewelKS | N0S1: wtf for |
| 21:34.19 | N0S1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.25 | abrotman | N0S1: centericq + screen |
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| 21:34.31 | SerajewelKS | N0S1: yes, use an irc client instead? |
| 21:34.34 | Fox_1_ | ok |
| 21:34.37 | N0S1 | screen |
| 21:34.39 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau ok, thanks |
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| 21:35.10 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau and what about gnustep translation? |
| 21:35.29 | N0S1 | abrotman: centericq is a very good |
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| 21:35.32 | fbi | and once again, i start openoffice.org 'calc' and expect a calculator to appear. |
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| 21:35.38 | N0S1 | abrotman: whats is "screen"? |
| 21:35.45 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: currently i have nothing. i'm waiting for your work to be included in gomoku... |
| 21:35.59 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: i'm working on a new version of the cd. and busy with life |
| 21:36.04 | tarzeau | !screen |
| 21:36.05 | dpkg | screen is, like, like, allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and let's you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or apt-get install screen |
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| 21:36.40 | wazzles | i dont understand why screen would be useful |
| 21:36.49 | wazzles | maybe i am not a debian power user or something |
| 21:36.51 | pattieja | abrotman, I'm not sure what script he is running |
| 21:36.51 | stew | wazzles: blasphemy |
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| 21:36.58 | beardy | wazzles: You will if you try it. |
| 21:37.00 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau you know they didn't send me pserver account password for website translation. |
| 21:37.07 | abrotman | pattieja: neither am i |
| 21:37.12 | [A]Combustion | How would I go about installing the i386 version of the Debian distro on a nForce4 SATA? |
| 21:37.24 | pattieja | abrotman, :) |
| 21:37.33 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: no i don't know. i'm not they |
| 21:37.38 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: i'm sorry i can't help you there |
| 21:37.44 | wazzles | yeah i mean i heard screen is a powerful tool but no one has demonstrated to me why it is super helpful |
| 21:38.19 | pattieja | wazzles, start a remote kernel build, or even a local one |
| 21:38.24 | wazzles | i'm no power user, i just use one terminal, xchat, and thunderbird |
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| 21:38.36 | wazzles | yeah that is something i am not gonna be doing any time soon |
| 21:38.36 | halibut | I have a windows partition, linux partition, /home partition, swap partition, I want to make the /home partition BIGGER, can I resize it without removing the data from any of the drive? |
| 21:38.41 | pattieja | wazzles, then discontinue from your screen session and come back and check on it periodically. Saves SSH bandwidth, etc. |
| 21:38.54 | wazzles | i see |
| 21:38.57 | beardy | wazzles: There's nothing "power" about it, just plain survival, try it and you can't be without it. |
| 21:38.58 | pattieja | s/discontinue/disconnect/ |
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| 21:39.22 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau ok thanks:) |
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| 21:40.15 | mhall | halibut: this is going to depend on the way things are arranged |
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| 21:40.52 | mhall | wazzles: screen is not so useful when you are on the system natively |
| 21:40.59 | [A]Combustion | How do I install Debian on nForce4 SATA? |
| 21:41.01 | mhall | wazzles: but when you are not right on the console it is a godsend |
| 21:41.02 | abrotman | !beer me |
| 21:41.10 | mhall | [A]Combustion: I was trying to figure out a similar question. |
| 21:41.16 | [A]Combustion | Crap. |
| 21:41.20 | mhall | [A]Combustion: Do you know how to configure nvraid before boot? |
| 21:41.24 | [A]Combustion | Ho. |
| 21:41.26 | [A]Combustion | No., |
| 21:41.32 | wazzles | gotcha |
| 21:41.33 | abrotman | did you call me a ho ? |
| 21:41.37 | mhall | [A]Combustion: Damn I can't figure out what to do. |
| 21:41.44 | fbi | !ho abrotman |
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| 21:41.53 | fbi | dpkg: you suck |
| 21:41.54 | dpkg | Dream on, fbi. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
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| 21:42.01 | [A]Combustion | abrotman, yeah. :/ Sarcasm. |
| 21:42.09 | [A]Combustion | !ho |
| 21:42.09 | dpkg | hmm... ho is a derisive term for a promiscuous woman most often used in (american) english, or one of the many bits of african-american slang that white people have appropriated |
| 21:42.17 | vimman | is there a webpage that would guide me to answer the [y/n/m] question that i face when i recompile the kernel ? |
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| 21:42.45 | sgeigerbot | Something is a little unclear to me: I can ssh into root@remotebox and I should be able to use the X11 DISPLAY to read from the keyboard. But how does one do that? |
| 21:42.49 | abrotman | !terrible thunder lizards |
| 21:42.49 | dpkg | terrible thunder lizards are really dumm. See Eek. |
| 21:42.55 | fbi | vimman: how the hell can a webpage tell you about your own hardware and needs? |
| 21:42.58 | beardy | vimman: make menuconfig, and search for the kernel howto instead |
| 21:43.12 | beardy | !kp |
| 21:43.12 | dpkg | methinks kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
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| 21:43.23 | vmx | is there a debian way to install JAI (Java Advanced Imaging)? |
| 21:43.24 | [A]Combustion | Gah. No debian for me until I know of how to get it to install on nforce4 sata. |
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| 21:43.35 | halibut | how do I print screen? |
| 21:43.44 | fbi | what's all the hype with sata devices anyway |
| 21:43.49 | fbi | are they really that much faster than ide |
| 21:43.58 | [A]Combustion | Yeah,. |
| 21:43.59 | [A]Combustion | Yeah.* |
| 21:44.04 | Laocoon | sgeigerbot If you mean running an X program in your SSH session and having it shown on your screen, then you should ssh -X -l [login] [server] |
| 21:44.05 | [A]Combustion | RAID is great. |
| 21:44.05 | fbi | heh |
| 21:44.13 | fbi | my dual 200 gig ide disks are plenty fast |
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| 21:44.18 | fbi | and gues what, i can install debian on them |
| 21:44.23 | Laocoon | sgeigerbot It won't work if sshd configuration does not allow it, though. |
| 21:44.24 | DesScorp | ok..... |
| 21:44.35 | DesScorp | just researched the microsoft SFU thing... |
| 21:44.44 | [A]Combustion | Heh. My single 200gb hdd is fine for me. I plan on getting a pair more for RAID0 soon. |
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| 21:45.05 | DesScorp | yes, it's going away as a standalone product, but starting with longhorn, it'll be completely integrated with the OS |
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| 21:45.13 | quatell | hi, my gtk-windows have tiny font, i can't read the content. how could i increase the font-size? |
| 21:45.16 | [A]Combustion | What is the 'SFU thing'? |
| 21:45.22 | DesScorp | services for unix |
| 21:45.29 | [A]Combustion | Ahh. |
| 21:45.30 | DesScorp | it was an addon product of microsoft |
| 21:45.40 | [A]Combustion | Windows is gonna become somewhat unix compatible...? |
| 21:45.46 | DesScorp | yup |
| 21:45.50 | [A]Combustion | Very nice. |
| 21:46.03 | beardy | No. And no. |
| 21:46.08 | DesScorp | they've rewritten the windows command line for that, and now SFU will be integrated into it as well |
| 21:46.33 | [A]Combustion | !dumb |
| 21:46.43 | DesScorp | you'll be able to , say, call the Korn shell from the windows command line |
| 21:46.53 | [A]Combustion | Nice. |
| 21:47.25 | beardy | !away |
| 21:47.25 | dpkg | Do not use public away/back messages in #debian. If we want to know where you are, we'll /whois you. In BX, /set auto_away off; ask in #yourircclient if you have questions. If you continue to use public aways/backs you will be devoiced. http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 21:47.46 | beardy | !tell electron-a about away |
| 21:48.26 | mhall | [A]Combustion: I would suggest you perhaps try the latest install disc: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/i386/ |
| 21:48.31 | mhall | shit |
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| 21:49.41 | pattieja | abrotman, I found the script he's using. He somehow was able to upload it to the server in the uploads directory of the webserver. |
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| 21:50.00 | pattieja | It appears, he may have found an exploit in the CMS I am using |
| 21:50.16 | abrotman | pattieja: guess what ? .. all this work .. and it wasn't a bug in PHP or apache :) |
| 21:50.27 | pattieja | yeah |
| 21:50.28 | pattieja | :) |
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| 21:51.07 | Fluten | i have a 366mhz laptop with a 250MB hard drive, can i install a basic debian install on it, and then have it load everything else from nfs after it boots? |
| 21:51.07 | pattieja | but if I had process-based security in place, it probably wouldn't have allowed the apache process to launch the s.php script which launches any program the incoming connection desires to launch |
| 21:51.27 | beardy | Fluten: How much ram? Yes. |
| 21:51.36 | abrotman | Fluten: a what HDD ? |
| 21:51.40 | Fluten | 64MB of RAM |
| 21:51.45 | Agrajag- | ok, so i've filled up my root partition and can't read the dpkg manpage (since it tries to gunzip) - what's the parameter to remove all cached packages? |
| 21:51.49 | pattieja | abrotman, how can I test uploading a file to my webserver directly, if I know the path I want to put a file to? |
| 21:51.50 | Fluten | i can do swapping over NFS |
| 21:51.53 | abrotman | how the fuck did you get a 366Mhz with a 250MB HDD ? |
| 21:52.00 | fbi | Agrajag-: apt-get clean |
| 21:52.02 | Fluten | i stole its hard drive |
| 21:52.03 | mhall | pattieja: what did it do to your server |
| 21:52.13 | Fluten | and i want to use the laptop as a machine to process images |
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| 21:52.27 | Fluten | so it doesn't need to be at all portable, and i dont think i can network boot off of pcmcia devices |
| 21:52.29 | thingfish | *plonk* |
| 21:52.31 | beardy | Fluten: Process images? |
| 21:52.31 | fbi | Fluten: thief. |
| 21:52.33 | abrotman | pattieja: you upload a file .. if you know where it goes .. you'll be able to hit it immedialtely |
| 21:52.34 | pattieja | mhall, nothing. The attacker used it to run wget to pull down two other perl scripts |
| 21:52.37 | predius_ | How can I get cron to stop emailing root after a succesful job? |
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| 21:52.50 | mhall | pattieja: but what happened in the end, sum total |
| 21:52.53 | Fluten | hmm, i believe it has a 4GB hard drive |
| 21:53.01 | mhall | predius_: it only does this on failed jobs |
| 21:53.03 | Fluten | that i could also use |
| 21:53.11 | Fluten | but debian gives an error on bootup, so i think its going bad |
| 21:53.12 | Agrajag- | fbi: that command doesn't ring a bell - is that the one for cleaning out /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
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| 21:53.20 | mijailo | I've quick question for you guys, how do you send DHCPRENEW to the dhcp server? |
| 21:53.22 | fbi | Agrajag-: yes. |
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| 21:53.24 | pattieja | mhall, which the first exec'd and gave him a shell on the box, the second was launched from that shell (after forking to disconnect from the original process) and UDP flooded whatever IP address at whatever port the attacker desired |
| 21:53.28 | Agrajag- | fbi: thanks |
| 21:53.35 | mhall | pattieja: not cool |
| 21:53.43 | mhall | pattieja: so how did you find out |
| 21:53.44 | beardy | mijailo: By running a dhcp client. |
| 21:53.45 | _rene_ | mhall: there's no DHCPRENEW |
| 21:53.51 | pattieja | mhall, not at all, especially at 60 Mbps outbound bandwidth |
| 21:53.54 | mhall | _rene_: ? wrong guy |
| 21:53.55 | _rene_ | err |
| 21:53.58 | mhall | pattieja: oh shit |
| 21:54.00 | predius_ | mhall: Ah, I had forgotten to remove an old job. |
| 21:54.01 | predius_ | thanks. |
| 21:54.02 | _rene_ | mijailo: there's no DHCPRENEW |
| 21:54.03 | mijailo | just running the client wont do it |
| 21:54.10 | mhall | predius_: ;-) |
| 21:54.12 | mijailo | I want to renew the ip |
| 21:54.22 | Fluten | pretty much, can it boot up, load the pcmcia network stuff, and then mount a new root? |
| 21:54.34 | pattieja | mhall, our colo provider alerted us to the fact that our box was spewing out full bandwidth traffic |
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| 21:54.39 | _rene_ | mijailo: run dhclient again. but in the way dhcp works, you already should've gotten a new lease if the old one's obsolete |
| 21:54.44 | mhall | pattieja: i've been very nervous about choosing a CMS to redo my system |
| 21:54.48 | _rene_ | mijailo: and you might get the same IP you had already.. |
| 21:54.58 | jeld | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.58 | abrotman | mhall: i recommend vi |
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| 21:55.02 | mhall | pattieja: do you have any suggestions? |
| 21:55.04 | mijailo | yeah can I prevent that in some way? |
| 21:55.06 | pattieja | mhall, well, it appears that it might just be apache permissions on the system, but I'm not sure |
| 21:55.07 | abrotman | jeld: take otu the space |
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| 21:55.08 | _rene_ | no. |
| 21:55.14 | jeld | abrotman, sorry |
| 21:55.15 | mhall | abrotman: i don't have a lot of time to do editing |
| 21:55.22 | pattieja | mhall, I'm using WebGUI. I haven't kept up with the latest changes, though |
| 21:55.23 | mhall | abrotman: so i'd like to do something wiki based |
| 21:55.27 | _rene_ | you might wait some hours/days till the lease expired :-P |
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| 21:55.37 | abrotman | mhall: vi! |
| 21:55.39 | _rene_ | depending on the lease time :) |
| 21:55.41 | pattieja | abrotman, hehe |
| 21:55.45 | mhall | mijailo: change your mac address |
| 21:55.54 | mhall | abrotman: yeah i don't like vi |
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| 21:56.00 | abrotman | pattieja: so this was all your fault! .. :) |
| 21:56.07 | mhall | abrotman: and it's not a complete CMS either |
| 21:56.09 | abrotman | mhall: sex .. |
| 21:56.12 | abrotman | !info sex oldstable |
| 21:56.18 | dpkg | sex: (Simple editor for X), section editors, is optional. Version: 0.19.1-2 (woody), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 21:56.42 | electron-a | how do I play .sid files? |
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| 21:56.56 | mijailo | Hm I know you can do net stop and net start and then ipconfig /renew in windows, whats the thing in linux? |
| 21:57.00 | outlaw84 | When I run lspci all the names are gone... I only see a bunch of adresses and stuff... what am I missing? |
| 21:57.50 | _rene_ | mijailo: windows would do the same. unless it would violate the dhcp protocol |
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| 21:58.03 | abrotman | outlaw84: update-pciids |
| 21:58.06 | _rene_ | mijailo: and I *did* tell you what the command is |
| 21:58.06 | pattieja | abrotman, apparently. Sorry. I guess it just took someone hacking around to find out they could upload any file they want. I don't think it's supposed to work that way, though. It looks like they just kept sending POST (givemeashell.php - actual name = s.php) to the /uploads/ directory on the webserver. |
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| 21:58.22 | abrotman | pattieja: i would hope it's not supposed to work that way ... |
| 21:58.28 | mijailo | _rene_ running dhclient doesnt work |
| 21:58.36 | pattieja | abrotman, actually, I think it may, which is very bad |
| 21:58.59 | _rene_ | huh? how? you of course need to give it the neccessary argument. like what's your ethernet device |
| 21:59.02 | mijailo | I just did this in windows, that net stop/start thing, and there I get a new ip. |
| 21:59.03 | pattieja | I'm going to report this to the makers of WebGUI |
| 21:59.07 | abrotman | pattieja: you don't say :) |
| 21:59.11 | outlaw84 | abrotman: It downloaded something from sourceforge... but I still get the same |
| 21:59.12 | pattieja | abrotman, :) |
| 21:59.18 | mijailo | _rene_: course I did |
| 21:59.25 | abrotman | outlaw84: show us a SINGLE line of it |
| 21:59.26 | mhall | abrotman: not sure i could use sex, my girlfriend would object |
| 21:59.32 | _rene_ | mijailo: then windows either does shit or you've had luck |
| 21:59.37 | abrotman | mhall: would she rather you use joe ? :) |
| 21:59.38 | outlaw84 | 0000:00:07.1 0680: 10b9:7101 |
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| 21:59.53 | abrotman | that's not good .. try a -vv |
| 22:00.10 | mijailo | _rene_: not just luck did it 5 times |
| 22:00.20 | _rene_ | then it does shit |
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| 22:00.30 | _rene_ | not surprising |
| 22:00.40 | mijailo | how do I do shit in debian :> |
| 22:00.45 | outlaw84 | abrotman: they still all start the same |
| 22:01.11 | mhall | abrotman: i'll have to consult with her about it i suppose |
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| 22:03.01 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 22:03.24 | outlaw84 | abrotman: I dont know if this is what broke lspci but I changed mainboard/cpu/plattform today without any file change so far... changed from VIA chipsets + AMD Duron to uLi chipset + AMD Athlon64 |
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| 22:03.54 | abrotman | outlaw84: i've never seen what you're describing .. did you google at all ? |
| 22:04.34 | pattieja | abrotman, here's the apache log entry that seems to have started the attack on Oct 31st. This has been going on for over a week now. It seems that according to this, someone may be sending an e-mail around that has our information in it, possibly even with a link in it to the exploit on our server, in order to allow anybody who gets their hands on the e-mail to use our server in this way: |
| 22:04.36 | pattieja | 81.181.240.119 - - [31/Oct/2005:06:58:27 -0600] "GET /uploads/s.php HTTP/1.1" 401 1450 "ht |
| 22:04.36 | pattieja | tp://us.f319.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=7568_8421864_211945_1749_482_0_35626_2432_ |
| 22:04.36 | pattieja | 3785541437&Idx=5&YY=84623&inc=100&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=&head=&box=Inbox" "Mozil |
| 22:04.36 | pattieja | la/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" "-" |
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| 22:04.46 | outlaw84 | abrotman: what should I google for? :S I cans search those numbers |
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| 22:04.51 | dondelelcaro | lightbright: ? |
| 22:05.10 | pattieja | of course, that IP address at the beginning of the message is not resolvable |
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| 22:05.33 | vmx | i've installed java (sun) with java-package. where can i put additional libs (like jai)? |
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| 22:05.50 | pattieja | heh. the whole message made it to the channel before I got kicked for pasting |
| 22:06.13 | pattieja | anyway, you can see the file they were looking for |
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| 22:07.16 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: that was hours ago |
| 22:07.29 | abrotman | pattieja: that's not good .. arin.net might know who owns it |
| 22:07.52 | mijailo | abrotman: I get the same ip |
| 22:07.56 | abrotman | pattieja: or whois |
| 22:08.08 | abrotman | mijailo: that's usually the way DHCP works |
| 22:08.11 | Fluten | does the debian 3 floppy disk install have drivers for pcmcia network cards on it? |
| 22:08.23 | abrotman | pattieja: seems to be in romania |
| 22:08.34 | mijailo | abrotman: Indeed, but there's got to be a way to force it like win. does |
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| 22:08.44 | _rene_ | mijailo: god, I already said you that you get the same IP BECAUSE THE DHCP PROTOCOL GIVE YOU THE SAME LEASE DURING THE LEASE TIME |
| 22:08.45 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yes, awaylogs are useful... |
| 22:08.46 | pattieja | abrotman, I got amsterdam |
| 22:08.49 | vimman | am recompiling my kernel ... should i have generic x86 support ? hpet timer support ?... any i have single processor.. so can i include "local APIC support for uniprocessors " ? |
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| 22:09.06 | _rene_ | s/PROTOCOL/PROTOCOL IS SO, THAT/ |
| 22:09.06 | mijailo | _rene_: I understand that yes but I want to force it |
| 22:09.17 | valdyn | !custom kernel |
| 22:09.17 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
| 22:09.31 | pattieja | abrotman, the command that snoopy let me see was that (one of) the attacker(s) issued a connection back to a fully-qualified hostname |
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| 22:09.42 | abrotman | pattieja: hrm .. ok |
| 22:09.43 | pattieja | with .hu at the end. Is that Hungary? |
| 22:09.50 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:09.52 | outlaw84 | pattieja: yes |
| 22:09.55 | pattieja | hmm |
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| 22:10.09 | pattieja | I wonder how he would feel if I ran his own script against his server? |
| 22:10.14 | pattieja | :) |
| 22:10.14 | vimman | am recompiling my kernel ... should i have generic x86 support ? hpet timer support ?... any i have single processor.. so can i include "local APIC support for uniprocessors " ? |
| 22:10.43 | abrotman | pattieja: since you're in the states .. i wouldn't recommend it |
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| 22:10.59 | outlaw84 | vimman: goto #kernel |
| 22:11.00 | abrotman | wait .. i would never recommend that :) |
| 22:11.02 | sgeigerbot | Something is a little unclear to me: I can ssh into root@remotebox and I should be able to use the X11 DISPLAY to read from the keyboard. But how does one do that? (Just to be clear: I want to do keystroke logging/recording/snooping.) |
| 22:11.06 | pattieja | abrotman, and my colo would terminate our service, too |
| 22:11.25 | pattieja | abrotman, the wrath of the attacker may come back to haunt me |
| 22:11.28 | pattieja | :) |
| 22:11.52 | abrotman | yeah .. he might actually be a cannuck |
| 22:12.00 | pattieja | what's that? |
| 22:12.12 | abrotman | canadian |
| 22:12.25 | pattieja | they're doing this kind of stuff up there? |
| 22:12.29 | pattieja | :) |
| 22:12.32 | abrotman | it was a joke .. sorry |
| 22:12.54 | pattieja | abrotman, my primary question is how to turn script runability off in apache for that directory |
| 22:13.03 | pattieja | I think that's probably what got me in trouble in the first place |
| 22:13.17 | pattieja | or at least to disable PHP execution in /uploads |
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| 22:13.30 | pattieja | since I think there might be some Perl scripts that need to run from there. |
| 22:13.31 | abrotman | pattieja: chmod ? |
| 22:13.37 | pattieja | oh |
| 22:13.45 | pattieja | is that all it takes? |
| 22:14.06 | pattieja | I thought the webserver made the directory executable or not via the ExecCGI directive? |
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| 22:14.40 | pattieja | does that take into consideration the executable bit of the directory? also, wouldn't it not matter if the directory is executable or not? |
| 22:15.18 | pattieja | abrotman, :( besides, the s.php script only has -rw-r--r-- as its permissions |
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| 22:15.39 | abrotman | hrm .. i thought php scripts needed +x .. but perhaps not |
| 22:15.53 | abrotman | pattieja: but you need scripts from there to run ? |
| 22:15.59 | pattieja | apparently neither do perl scripts |
| 22:16.08 | pattieja | abrotman, I doubt it, now that I think about it |
| 22:16.30 | pattieja | the CMS is Perl-based, but it shouldn't need to run any code for the CMS from uploads that it tracks |
| 22:16.58 | abrotman | pattieja: your best bet is to ask the CMS people .. see what needs to run out of that directory .. |
| 22:17.06 | pattieja | k |
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| 22:17.16 | abrotman | pattieja: and apache may have options to disallow certain kinds of documents in certain dirs |
| 22:17.25 | pattieja | thanks |
| 22:18.01 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau listen in http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Translation_collaboration i don't see information aboute armenian translation |
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| 22:18.44 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: you can click "edit" above and add it? |
| 22:18.45 | electron-a | I installed sidplay with apt-get install, but I can't find it, it doesn't register in whereis sidplay eather |
| 22:18.48 | mijailo | okey, since none realy can help me change ip, anyone know how to set up an arp table with computers on different subnets. Or I know I cant do that but something similair to it so the packets go straight to the right computer not behind the switch not down to the router and back again. |
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| 22:19.33 | mijailo | -not :> |
| 22:19.55 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau ok |
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| 22:20.38 | Fjams | Q: i just installed debian 3.1 on a compaq p3 800 with a geforce fx 5200 card and in the setup there wasn't a driver for nvidia so i picked vga which now turns out was a bad choice as i'm stuck in 416x312@74Hz, can someone point me in a direction for fixing this? i haven't found a place where i can change the driver and it won't let me choose any other resolution |
| 22:20.59 | ecobit | Fjams: nv |
| 22:21.18 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau it write: Please write to webmasters [AT] gnustep.org to get edit access. |
| 22:21.19 | ecobit | Fjams: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 22:21.21 | bucky | Fjams, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and pick nv |
| 22:21.39 | Fjams | ok, testing... |
| 22:21.47 | psychonate | I get this when I 'apt-get update': " GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" |
| 22:22.00 | electron-a | I installed sidplay with apt-get install, but I can't find it, it doesn't register in whereis sidplay eather????? |
| 22:22.03 | psychonate | how can I fix that? |
| 22:22.06 | Beefy | not sure |
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| 22:22.30 | abrotman | !tell psychonate about apt-secure |
| 22:22.33 | _rene_ | psychonate: read the fucking mls. Joey wrote a post wrt that |
| 22:22.50 | psychonate | _rene_, k thanks, don't be a dickhead |
| 22:22.52 | _rene_ | and read the fucking docs for apt. and follow the fucking development of testing when you use testing |
| 22:22.56 | abrotman | _rene_: or the topic ? |
| 22:23.01 | _rene_ | or that |
| 22:23.11 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: ohhh, it's still locked? |
| 22:23.14 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: then write... |
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| 22:23.19 | _rene_ | people using testing or unstable should at least a bit know what's going on with development |
| 22:23.20 | psychonate | _rene_, I hope the midol works better next time. |
| 22:23.37 | abrotman | not that the topic really says why to msg dpkg apt secure .. but whatever |
| 22:23.44 | _rene_ | and apt 0.6 is so long in the making now and was a longer time in unstable.... |
| 22:23.53 | ozatomic | can anyone in here give me help on a error i'm getting with cvs? |
| 22:24.01 | zophyx__ | cough |
| 22:24.05 | _rene_ | and it was mentioned at dozen places already... |
| 22:24.15 | psychonate | I looked at dpkg's testing security message, and I didn't see anything about a key |
| 22:24.20 | psychonate | and I haven't been in here all day |
| 22:24.22 | psychonate | I apologize |
| 22:24.32 | abrotman | _rene_: was it on d-d-a ? |
| 22:24.41 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau listen can i translate and add my translations with that site? |
| 22:25.06 | ozatomic | cvs update: failed to create lock directory for `/var/lib/cvs/project.com/html/advisors' (/var/lock/cvs/project.com.au/html/advisors/#cvs.lock): Permission denied |
| 22:25.16 | sgeigerbot | While trying to compile something with gcc, I get the following error. Which library or package am I missing? (I already have "libx11-dev" installed.) The error is: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 22:25.19 | _rene_ | psychonate: a) does the msaage say something about the key |
| 22:25.36 | _rene_ | "public key is not available" |
| 22:25.56 | psychonate | You know it does. I already stated that. |
| 22:25.58 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: xlibs-dev ? |
| 22:25.59 | gravity | sgeigerbot: That package should handle it for you. There's probably something wrong with your build system... |
| 22:26.04 | gravity | abrotman: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:26.11 | abrotman | gravity: WWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? |
| 22:26.17 | gravity | abrotman: xlibs-dev is going away in 6.9 |
| 22:26.17 | abrotman | gravity: why are you here so early ? |
| 22:26.19 | cheal | _rene_: it's not that simple, there's no need to curse for that |
| 22:26.24 | gravity | abrotman: Heh, I'm at work waiting to go home |
| 22:26.28 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: sure |
| 22:26.29 | ecobit | sgeigerbot: xlibs-dev ? |
| 22:26.34 | abrotman | gravity: but it's still there .. and he didn't say if it was sarge or etch+ ? |
| 22:26.38 | cheal | _rene_: stable is not a choice for *everyone* |
| 22:26.40 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 22:26.51 | pattieja | abrotman, ouch. I didn't get the CMS announcement on 10/11 stating that they know about this issue. The hackers sure worked fast to find people with vulnerable versions |
| 22:26.53 | _rene_ | cheal: and? I didn't said anything against him using testing |
| 22:26.54 | abrotman | gravity: ah .. ok |
| 22:26.55 | gravity | abrotman: It doesn't matter. libx11-dev will handle what he needs |
| 22:27.05 | gravity | ecobit: No xlibs-dev |
| 22:27.08 | gravity | DIE XLIBS-DEV |
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| 22:27.16 | Fox_1_ | tarzeau but i can see the english version. and how i must add the translated version? |
| 22:27.19 | abrotman | pattieja: there's a database .. they catalogue all your versions .. WHAT YOU SAY!? |
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| 22:27.30 | pattieja | abrotman, :) |
| 22:27.33 | ecobit | gravity: sgeigerbot: x-dev ? |
| 22:27.35 | _rene_ | but *if* he uses testing he at leasts hould follow debian development a bit and at lest read the most important mailinglist. even if he didn't do that he should know that apt now has signature verification |
| 22:27.39 | pattieja | abrotman, wow |
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| 22:27.43 | gravity | ecobit: No |
| 22:27.52 | abrotman | pattieja: i was joking .. i really don't know |
| 22:27.54 | gravity | ecobit: libx11-dev is the one he needs for that particular error |
| 22:27.59 | stew | gravity: maybe he needs xlibs-dev? |
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| 22:28.06 | pjz | does debian apply patches to its kernels? |
| 22:28.07 | stew | haha |
| 22:28.08 | pattieja | abrotman, well, the e-mail train certainly seems to be making its rounds |
| 22:28.08 | sgeigerbot | ecobit gravity abrotman: it's not xlibs-dev or x-dev. Any other ideas? (I installed both and neither one helped.) |
| 22:28.11 | gravity | stew: :-p |
| 22:28.16 | cheal | _rene_: "follow the fucking development of testing" is not necessarily accessible to most people using it |
| 22:28.19 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: fix ldconfig ? |
| 22:28.20 | pattieja | abrotman, I'm suprised noone has bothered to root my box |
| 22:28.21 | sgeigerbot | gravity: no, actually, that didn't help. |
| 22:28.22 | cheal | pjz: yes |
| 22:28.28 | pattieja | abrotman, of course, now that I've said that ... |
| 22:28.29 | _rene_ | cheal: of course it is. |
| 22:28.30 | abrotman | pattieja: that would require a local exploit also |
| 22:28.32 | pjz | cheal: where can I get the source for them? |
| 22:28.36 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: ok. What's the path I need to add? |
| 22:28.37 | gravity | sgeigerbot: I already told you. If your libx11-dev is installed and you have libx11-6, you need to fix your build system |
| 22:28.43 | cheal | pjz: which release do you run? |
| 22:28.46 | gravity | It's not a magic package issue |
| 22:28.49 | ecobit | sgeigerbot: grep through the make scrips and find where it does the check and fix it |
| 22:28.49 | pattieja | abrotman, well, I am up to date for Debian security patches for sarge |
| 22:29.00 | pjz | cheal: stable on 2.6 |
| 22:29.00 | abrotman | pattieja: yes .. then hopefully you're ok |
| 22:29.04 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: edit... |
| 22:29.09 | N0S1 | "screen" this is a very good |
| 22:29.12 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: ask in #gnustep |
| 22:29.14 | cheal | pjz: get the kernel-source-2.6.8 package |
| 22:29.16 | sgeigerbot | ecobit: you mean of the program I'm compiling? |
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| 22:29.50 | ecobit | sgeigerbot: yes. find out where it oes the check for the xlibs. maybe its using a wrong path or something |
| 22:30.11 | pjz | cheal: that has a kernel-soruce-2.6.8.tar.bz2 are they in there? |
| 22:30.19 | rudenstam | does modules rule higher than things that's built inside the kernel (ie, upgrading driver for e100 and the one supplied with kernel is compiled built-in and not modules) |
| 22:30.31 | ZombB | psychonate, look here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174 |
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| 22:30.40 | pjz | cheal: or is it pre-patched? |
| 22:30.44 | cheal | _rene_: it's accessible to a certain extent. not to be able to easily solve all the problems that using testing may cause, like that one |
| 22:30.48 | ozatomic | anyone here help me with my cvs problem? |
| 22:30.58 | sgeigerbot | ecobit: Well, I ask because it's a .c file (no makefile) and I don't see any reference to X11 in the code. |
| 22:31.02 | pjz | ozatomic: don't ask if you can ask, just ask |
| 22:31.13 | psychonate | hmm both of these articles talk about using it on Unstable; I run testing |
| 22:31.14 | _rene_ | cheal: yes, but *that* problem is described in a mail |
| 22:31.20 | psychonate | Can you use this on testing? |
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| 22:31.24 | sgeigerbot | ecobit: other than the #include statements themselves. |
| 22:31.25 | abrotman | psychonate: it applies just the sam |
| 22:31.26 | abrotman | same |
| 22:31.35 | _rene_ | and well, it's obvious that he missed the public |
| 22:31.36 | gravity | sgeigerbot: Are you not including the -L argument to gcc? |
| 22:31.38 | _rene_ | key |
| 22:31.42 | flaxo | hi |
| 22:31.43 | _rene_ | and that he needs to import it |
| 22:31.49 | pattieja | abrotman, well, the security patch for the CMS is in place. I still don't see how that will stop anyone from uploading content into the /uploads directory |
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| 22:32.03 | pattieja | I haven't figured out how to POST a file to the webserver |
| 22:32.05 | abrotman | pattieja: you'd have to ask them .. i don't know .. i haven't seen the code |
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| 22:32.19 | sgeigerbot | gravity: yes. That means what? |
| 22:32.23 | _rene_ | so he should read apt docs, and he may have found apt-key. then he might have wondered where he gets the key from, which that post describes. (and apt-key usage) |
| 22:32.25 | pattieja | are there utilities that let you POST files to webservers? I'm not thinking right now. |
| 22:32.29 | gravity | sgeigerbot: Look for the library in the location you pass it |
| 22:32.30 | davvin | hey, I just installed a smp-kernel on a HT system, how do I check my cpu(s)? :P |
| 22:32.40 | pjz | davvin: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 22:32.40 | pattieja | I don't know if the browser does that by default |
| 22:32.40 | flaxo | what about the php-weaknesses?? when can official patches be expected?? |
| 22:32.50 | sgeigerbot | pattieja: There are php scripts that do that. |
| 22:32.51 | gravity | gcc -o myapp -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 myapp.c |
| 22:32.58 | sgeigerbot | gravity: thanks. |
| 22:32.59 | ZombB | psychonate: apt 0.6 now is in testing, the article was written when it was in unstable, so you can use it NOW!!! |
| 22:33.10 | davvin | pjz: yay, two cpu's :) thanks |
| 22:33.18 | pjz | cheal: there don't seem to be patches in the kernel-source-2.6.8 package |
| 22:33.20 | cheal | pjz: good point...check kernel-patch-debian-2.6.8 maybe |
| 22:33.26 | gravity | sgeigerbot: I seriously recommend looking for a basic gcc tutorial if you're going to be doing this stuff by hand |
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| 22:33.31 | cheal | pjz: but I'm not sure |
| 22:33.42 | Nurbs | hooray for Acquire::http::Timeout "10"; with unreliable sources... |
| 22:33.46 | pjz | cheal: ah, there's the stack of patches |
| 22:34.01 | _rene_ | but *shrugs* I don't find that post anymore. It was here... |
| 22:34.37 | sgeigerbot | gravity ecobit abrotman: Thanks |
| 22:34.45 | abrotman | poop on sgeigerbot! |
| 22:35.00 | Tortel | !poop |
| 22:35.06 | cheal | _rene_: a mail is not doc...as for the APT doc, it didn't use to be perfect |
| 22:35.31 | _rene_ | I didn't say it is perfect |
| 22:35.45 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: Hmm...or was that at 19:58:41? Hmm. I think my memory is failing. |
| 22:36.02 | cheal | _rene_: I didn't say he couldn't solve the problem himself, I just said cursing about it was abusive |
| 22:36.06 | abrotman | both |
| 22:36.13 | sgeigerbot | :-) |
| 22:36.50 | cheal | _rene_: but at this point, I guess you got the idea you could get, so I'd rather stop |
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| 22:37.24 | dondelelcaro | _rene_: just use the apt-key fookeyid; factoid... easier. |
| 22:37.36 | dondelelcaro | !apt-key 808D0FD0 |
| 22:37.37 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 808D0FD0 ; gpg --export 808D0FD0 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 22:37.50 | cheal | interesting |
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| 22:38.57 | drp | whats a good app to remote into my windows machine from my debian machine that's similar to remote desktop ... vnc? |
| 22:39.19 | sgeigerbot | dondelelcaro: I'm out of the loop. What does the apt-key do? And what is "808D0FD0"? Is that a metasyntactic variable? or is that an actual value one needs to use? |
| 22:39.37 | cheal | drp: indeed...except VNC isn't really an app |
| 22:39.47 | cheal | there are applications for VNC servers and clients |
| 22:39.55 | drp | cheal: a protocol i know but a good vnc client is what i mean |
| 22:40.03 | dondelelcaro | sgeigerbot: apt-key manages the keyring that libapt uses to verify the authenticity of Packages files |
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| 22:40.14 | cheal | drp: do you use some desktop environment? |
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| 22:40.20 | dondelelcaro | sgeigerbot: 808D0FD0 is just a convenient key id. |
| 22:40.21 | drp | cheal: blackbox |
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| 22:40.41 | dondelelcaro | (wouldn't be of much use unless you wanted to accept release files signed by my main key) |
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| 22:40.47 | GuLLet | hei |
| 22:40.48 | Tortel | !apt-get install moo |
| 22:40.57 | sgeigerbot | drp: tsclient - Windows Terminal Services (RDP) client for GNOME 2 |
| 22:40.58 | Mr-R | drp: you could try rdesktop |
| 22:41.02 | sgeigerbot | drp: it even does vnc. |
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| 22:41.13 | GuLLet | only englsih folk her? |
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| 22:41.20 | dondelelcaro | Tortel: use /msg if you want to play with the bot, please. |
| 22:41.27 | sgeigerbot | drp: howver, if you only use vnc, as I do, I would use something else. |
| 22:41.32 | drp | Mr-R: rdesktop i'm guessing uses the same protocol as remote desktop? |
| 22:41.35 | _rene_ | GuLLet: no. but this channels language is english |
| 22:41.41 | Mr-R | drp: right |
| 22:41.48 | dondelelcaro | GuLLet: there are other channels using other languages... |
| 22:41.55 | sgeigerbot | drp: tsclient is cooler. |
| 22:42.02 | drp | sgeigerbot: maybe i'll try both |
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| 22:43.20 | drp | sgeigerbot: you have to have gnome to use tsclient? |
| 22:43.32 | drp | sgeigerbot: i'm not a really big fan of gnome |
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| 22:43.41 | BlueSmurf | Hi guys |
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| 22:44.42 | sgeigerbot | drp: you don't have to use gnome |
| 22:45.11 | BlueSmurf | GNOME wont start when network is up, but when down works fine... any hints ? |
| 22:45.33 | BlueSmurf | I am on Debian Sarge. |
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| 22:46.01 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: how long does it take for ping $(hostname) to respond? |
| 22:46.03 | taoda | Hi everyone! Anybody here had good experience with installing NFS4 on Debian? |
| 22:46.57 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : ping to my router goes fine. (0.164ms) so on |
| 22:47.44 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: that's not what I asked |
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| 22:48.09 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : ups !, sorry :), I try |
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| 22:49.43 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : wow!, ping gericom (the host name) reports 3999ms , why ? |
| 22:50.02 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: yes, but how long did it take for it to ping the first time? |
| 22:50.04 | taoda | ... Anybody with bad experience with NFS4 on debian? |
| 22:50.17 | dondelelcaro | taoda: just ask your real question |
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| 22:50.41 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : that was the first time... |
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| 22:51.03 | wouterrr | hello, how do i get support for libgtkembedmoz.so in the mozilla-firefox of unstable |
| 22:51.16 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : I am trying again... |
| 22:51.21 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: yes, but did you sit there for a while waiting for it to start pinging? or did it just start pinging? |
| 22:51.35 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: in any case, the likely reason is that you don't have your /etc/hosts set up properly to resolve your hostname. |
| 22:52.01 | LinuxGold | do debian have phpmyadmin? |
| 22:52.07 | LinuxGold | !dpkg phpmyadmin |
| 22:52.10 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro ; i have 127.0.0.1 localhost gericom |
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| 22:52.26 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro ; the network is setup by DHCP |
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| 22:52.41 | bob2 | LinuxGold: yes... |
| 22:52.44 | sett | does anyone know where kde konsole takes fonts from and why are there only 10 of all the many |
| 22:52.59 | bob2 | because it would want monospaced fontconfig fonts |
| 22:53.06 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: you want 127.0.0.1 gericom gericom.your.domain.name localhost localhost.localdomain |
| 22:53.27 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : ok, thanks, Ill try that. |
| 22:53.38 | sett | can't it use ttf? |
| 22:53.45 | bob2 | sett: sure it can |
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| 22:54.14 | sett | well why is it not doing so, the whole kde sees my installed ttf fonts but not console |
| 22:54.29 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : it seems to be the same,... ill check on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:54.29 | sett | konsole I mean |
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| 22:55.55 | litage | how do you configure dnscache to allow queries from any ip address? |
| 22:55.57 | caphuso | sett: how many of your precious ttf fonts are _monospaced_? |
| 22:56.14 | sett | hell, i don;t know. how do i check that? |
| 22:56.21 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : do I need domain or search in /etc/resolv.conf ?, or shall I just leave the nameserver bits ? |
| 22:56.30 | caphuso | sett: well, looking at which konsole offers might give you a clue |
| 22:56.38 | marstewel | search <domain> |
| 22:56.40 | zinx | caphuso: my term supports using proportional fonts as mono-spaced |
| 22:56.41 | sett | he h |
| 22:56.49 | sett | all of them sucks |
| 22:56.55 | caphuso | zinx: looks like crap though |
| 22:56.57 | sett | which font do u use under konsole? |
| 22:57.04 | resiak | !u |
| 22:57.04 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:57.14 | zinx | caphuso: http://zinx.xmms.org/misc/tmp/aums-fixed.png |
| 22:57.19 | zinx | caphuso: that's Arial Unicode MS |
| 22:57.47 | caphuso | zinx: lots of colored blocks... great stuff |
| 22:58.01 | streuner | looks strange :-) |
| 22:58.04 | zinx | caphuso: well, it was an early test of the glyph rendering |
| 22:58.26 | zinx | caphuso: there is some actual text ;) |
| 22:58.49 | pattieja | sgeigerbot, I attempted to upload the file using wget with the --post-file argument |
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| 22:59.20 | pattieja | it didn't seem to work, but I think wget was attempting to download the file I specified on the server, instead of pushing the data to that location |
| 22:59.34 | caphuso | zinx: well, it's still useless |
| 22:59.48 | BlueSmurf | I tried debian on an AMD64 today... whent like a dream :) |
| 22:59.57 | zinx | caphuso: haha, of COURSE it is. |
| 23:00.04 | caphuso | might make a nice screensaver, if those would still make any sense |
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| 23:00.17 | mb7 | hello ..i have a problem |
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| 23:00.27 | mb7 | i updated gnome to 2.8. |
| 23:00.41 | mb7 | and my gnome panel disapear |
| 23:00.42 | streuner | mb7: fine :-) |
| 23:00.47 | caphuso | agreed, gnome is a problem |
| 23:00.55 | mb7 | is there a way to call the main bar |
| 23:01.00 | zinx | caphuso: uhm, it doesn't draw random blocks you know |
| 23:01.02 | bob2 | 8gnome-panel |
| 23:01.14 | mb7 | it does not appear that command |
| 23:01.20 | mb7 | any other way |
| 23:01.21 | caphuso | zinx: i bet it will, if you "tail -f /var/log/syslog" |
| 23:01.25 | zinx | caphuso: that was a test of the rendering. that code doesn't even exist anymore. |
| 23:01.29 | zinx | caphuso: no, it won't. |
| 23:01.46 | BlueSmurf | what adverse effect does /etc/hosts or /etc/resolv.conf have on GNOME not starting ?, I am on a laptop. |
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| 23:02.29 | bob2 | wtf |
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| 23:02.40 | streuner | mb7: what does BTS say about? |
| 23:03.06 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: the question was whether or not you had your hostname resolving properly, since you mentioned something about the network causing it not to work. |
| 23:03.33 | Tortel | oooo |
| 23:03.34 | Tortel | http://bash.org/?564197 |
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| 23:03.53 | doc|home | hahaha |
| 23:04.11 | streuner | mb7: and which version of debian do you use? |
| 23:04.17 | streuner | mb7: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
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| 23:04.47 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : ping $HOSTNAME still does not work... I dont know why. I have 127.0.0.1 localhost gericom localhost.localdomain in my /etc/hosts |
| 23:05.24 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : I also have entries to my router and server. and some other IPv6 entries (by debian) |
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| 23:06.10 | jazzanova | hi |
| 23:06.18 | streuner | localhost.localdomain sounds like mdk not debian :-) |
| 23:06.21 | jazzanova | where can i find old kernel-headers package ? |
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| 23:06.42 | Subvertir | Hey, what is a stale lock? |
| 23:06.42 | jazzanova | bf2.4 |
| 23:06.42 | streuner | jazzanova: try /msg dpkg sdn |
| 23:06.43 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: ping localhost; doesn't work? |
| 23:07.00 | jazzanova | cool, thanks ! |
| 23:07.04 | BlueSmurf | streuner : I just added that line :) |
| 23:07.14 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: heh; run ifconfig lo add 127.0.0.1; and add an ifcace lo inet loopback; auto lo; to your /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 23:07.39 | streuner | jazzanova: there aren't any for bf2.4, besides, why do you use such an old kernel? |
| 23:07.40 | dondelelcaro | streuner: actuall, it was the default in Debian for the longest time, not strictly necessary though. |
| 23:07.44 | bob2 | Subvertir: a lock that's not needed anymore |
| 23:07.48 | bob2 | Subvertir: more context would be good |
| 23:07.56 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : no, testing net ... |
| 23:08.17 | Subvertir | bob2, I'm sort of asking on behalf of someone else, he's trying to run KDE from a Samba mounted home directory and it's failing |
| 23:08.38 | Subvertir | bob2, I figured it had something to do with ~/.kde/socket-$(hostname) etc |
| 23:08.38 | dondelelcaro | Subvertir: that's insanity |
| 23:08.42 | bob2 | I hope that's with cifs |
| 23:09.05 | dondelelcaro | it's almost guaranteed that sockets will fail horribly there |
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| 23:09.53 | Subvertir | well that's a bit lame |
| 23:10.05 | bob2 | it's a windows filesystem |
| 23:10.12 | bob2 | you can't use vfat for your home dir, either |
| 23:10.21 | streuner | jazzanova: maybe 'zomb' has those kernel-headers still in his website (debian) |
| 23:10.27 | jazzanova | streuner: we have this kernel on a server that we don't want to reboot, but we need to build a module for it. |
| 23:11.03 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : ping localhost fails. ping router (from /etc/hosts 192.168.0.1) works fine. |
| 23:11.14 | jazzanova | wher is this zombie ? |
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| 23:11.18 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: you need to ifconfig lo add 127.0.0.1; |
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| 23:11.29 | dondelelcaro | BlueSmurf: and then add the other two lines I mentioned to your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:11.33 | jazzanova | zomb ? |
| 23:11.45 | streuner | jazzanova: 'zomb', DD and maint of bf2.4 |
| 23:11.45 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : damn... right on. lo is dowm. |
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| 23:12.19 | azeem | jazzanova: http://people.debian.org/~blade/ |
| 23:12.25 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro: Ill try and fix it, but that seems to be an issue :), thanks a lot. |
| 23:13.19 | saboya | heya... im having some trouble with my onboard sound, can anyone help me out? |
| 23:13.27 | TiMiDo | saboya did alsa? |
| 23:13.30 | BlueSmurf | ok... |
| 23:13.33 | saboya | yes |
| 23:13.42 | TiMiDo | saboya did you do alsaconf? or alsasetup? |
| 23:13.47 | saboya | alsaconf |
| 23:13.52 | saboya | it doesnt detect my sound card |
| 23:13.57 | TiMiDo | is it a laptop? |
| 23:14.06 | saboya | nope, a8n-sli deluxe onboard sound. ALC850 |
| 23:14.18 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : lo is up and running... bugger me, that was the problem. I should have seen it. I owe you a beer. |
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| 23:14.26 | BlueSmurf | dondelelcaro : thanks again. |
| 23:14.29 | saboya | i've found some stuff on google, tried some and didn't work. |
| 23:14.37 | TiMiDo | saboya keep on looking |
| 23:14.42 | saboya | like putting snd-intel8x0 on /etc/modules |
| 23:14.48 | TiMiDo | did you do adduser $USER sound ? |
| 23:15.03 | saboya | hmm no, but i thought i had to do that after i do alsaconf |
| 23:15.10 | TiMiDo | well try doing that, |
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| 23:15.14 | saboya | ok |
| 23:15.17 | TiMiDo | and then restart x and see if it works |
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| 23:15.52 | saboya | group sound does not exist |
| 23:16.03 | TiMiDo | interesting |
| 23:16.03 | HarryNew | I've got some questions about controlling modules on boot up |
| 23:16.05 | TiMiDo | try audio |
| 23:16.08 | TiMiDo | sorry it's audio |
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| 23:16.40 | saboya | was already a member |
| 23:16.41 | HarryNew | where do I edit to add scsi emulation? |
| 23:16.53 | TiMiDo | HarryNew nano /etc/modules |
| 23:17.05 | HarryNew | nano the editior |
| 23:17.08 | TiMiDo | yes |
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| 23:17.37 | HarryNew | add a line that says: ide-scsci |
| 23:17.44 | saboya | adding snd-intel8x0 do my modules shouldn't make debian recognize the sound card at least? |
| 23:17.47 | TiMiDo | if that's the modules then it's a yes |
| 23:17.48 | saboya | i think the problem lies there |
| 23:17.53 | TiMiDo | saboya not really |
| 23:17.59 | TiMiDo | saboya do lspci |
| 23:18.02 | stew | HarryNew: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 23:18.12 | HarryNew | wait sceond |
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| 23:18.32 | saboya | lots of nvidia corporation unknown devices |
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| 23:19.04 | saboya | including a multimedia audio controller |
| 23:19.07 | tarzeau | saboya: update-pciids ? |
| 23:19.08 | jazzanova | so what iif i take kernel-source-2.4.26 instead of the 2.4.26-bf, then use the /boot/config file, and try to initialize all the headers ? |
| 23:19.15 | HarryNew | 2.4.27... |
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| 23:19.30 | stew | HarryNew: /etc/modules is the file you are looking for |
| 23:19.32 | tarzeau | why not 2.4.31? |
| 23:19.47 | saboya | wow that's great |
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| 23:19.52 | stew | HarryNew: /etc/modules is the list of modules to be loaded on boot if you are tryign to prevent one from loading /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 23:19.55 | saboya | now it recongnizes everything :) |
| 23:19.58 | jazzanova | harrynew: i should take 27 ? |
| 23:20.13 | stew | jazzanova: HarryNew wasn't talking to you |
| 23:20.18 | jazzanova | ok. |
| 23:20.31 | saboya | erm ok, now what? all my pcis are correctly named now |
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| 23:21.07 | HarryNew | o.k. /etc/modules will have look there, thanks |
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| 23:22.12 | Fubarovic | i accidentally killed my /dev dir |
| 23:22.18 | Fubarovic | i thought it was a dynamic dir |
| 23:22.22 | Fubarovic | how do i fix this? |
| 23:22.31 | Thanatermesis | xchat help: irc://server:port/channel |
| 23:22.46 | Thanatermesis | i trying to launch xchat from commandline for enter in a channel but not is posible :/ |
| 23:23.05 | Thanatermesis | xchat irc://irc.freenode.net/cinelerra |
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| 23:23.59 | saboya | i did update-pciids, now my lspci is correctly identified |
| 23:24.03 | saboya | how should i proceed? |
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| 23:24.41 | MrBallZ | how " unstable " is etch , and how " new " is it , in terms of recent software versions .... ??? |
| 23:25.01 | streuner | MrBallZ: BTS would tell you |
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| 23:25.33 | streuner | MrBallZ: for the last question, usually after 2 weeks most packages come from unstable to testing... |
| 23:25.49 | streuner | unstable=sid, etch=testing |
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| 23:29.29 | Guerin | MrBallZ: at the moment etch is pretty flakey. I'd avoid it unless you feel like manually backportsing some stuff yourself. |
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| 23:29.52 | streuner | (GNOME, KDE)... |
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| 23:30.19 | lightbright | streuner: hello |
| 23:30.28 | streuner | hi |
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| 23:31.28 | lightbright | i want to make a mirror copy of my hdb 20gig hard drive which is filled with 9gig of Debian, and copy this to a new 10Gif hda hard drive. Will this command suffice: cp -fra /mnt/old /mnt/new ? |
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| 23:32.29 | smagy2 | hello folks, can some one please help me out on this. the system has memory and the swap used up. only able to ssh to the system. ps aux takes a long time. is it possible to identify userlevel processes from /proc and kill them ? |
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| 23:32.51 | Guerin | lightbright: you'll need to make a partition and a filesystem on new, and you'll need to run grub-install on it |
| 23:33.16 | Guerin | lightbright: the r in fra is redundant |
| 23:33.40 | Guerin | as should the f be |
| 23:33.41 | Subvertir | hey guys, if you're in the market for a cheap printer for linux, Brother make some very decent ones! |
| 23:33.54 | Guerin | Subvertir: please don't spam |
| 23:33.55 | lightbright | Subvertir: you work for Brother? |
| 23:35.00 | lightbright | cp -fra hdb /mnt |
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| 23:35.12 | pattieja | is there an option available for XFree86 or Xorg to have it choose the next available display number rather than having to specify it on the commandline as an argument? |
| 23:35.32 | Subvertir | haha no |
| 23:35.34 | Subvertir | I work for a grocery store |
| 23:35.34 | TiMiDo | !tell pattieja about set up x |
| 23:35.49 | Guerin | lightbright: are you still ignoring me? |
| 23:36.12 | Fluten | now that i have debian installed to a 250MB hdd, how can i tell it to mount a new root over nfs once its booted? |
| 23:36.23 | lightbright | Subvertir: so why are you a salesman for Brother? |
| 23:36.27 | pattieja | TiMiDo, what does that have to do with my question? I've perused the man page, but not come up with anything. |
| 23:36.27 | bob2 | with difficulty |
| 23:36.31 | bob2 | lightbright: enough |
| 23:36.37 | lightbright | bob2: was joking |
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| 23:37.11 | lightbright | bob2: if I want to use cp -fra , will that make an exact copy of my hdb and place it on hda, swap partitions and all? |
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| 23:37.20 | pattieja | TiMiDo, in fact, it appears that X wants to launch on DISPLAY=:0.0 if you don't give it a display on the commandline |
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| 23:37.40 | bob2 | lightbright: no |
| 23:37.45 | Guerin | !say lightbright: someone already answered your question, but you're too stupid to listen to them. |
| 23:37.48 | dpkg | lightbright: someone already answered your question, but you're too stupid to listen to them. |
| 23:37.52 | pattieja | I'm attempting to launch multiple X displays from a menu that a user can choose a session from without having to hardcode DISPLAY settings for each menu item |
| 23:38.05 | jbroome | i think i'm going to adopt dpkg as my son |
| 23:38.44 | fbi | !gender |
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| 23:38.45 | dpkg | I'm female |
| 23:38.52 | pattieja | heh |
| 23:38.55 | lightbright | bob2: I want to make a mirror copy of my entire hdb 20gig hard drive, swap partitions etc, which is filled with 6gig of Debian, and copy this to a new 10Gif hda hard drive. What command would I use please? |
| 23:38.59 | yodabunny | what's a good p2p program? |
| 23:39.29 | bob2 | lightbright: dd |
| 23:39.39 | streuner | fbi: :-) |
| 23:39.52 | lightbright | bob2: I just type "dd hdb hda" ? |
| 23:40.07 | bob2 | lightbright: yes |
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| 23:40.14 | bob2 | lightbright: don't forget to sprinkle fairy dust on it |
| 23:40.21 | bob2 | that or e read the manual, then use it correctly |
| 23:40.28 | pattieja | lightbright, well, since you're dealing with Linux and Linux filesystem types, most likely, I would create new partitions in the sizes you like on your 10Gig HDD, mount the partitions, tar -cvf from the 20Gig to the 10Gig, and then run grub or lilo against the new drive |
| 23:40.29 | bob2 | dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb |
| 23:40.31 | pattieja | mkswap too |
| 23:40.32 | lightbright | bob2: ok thanks :) and that makes a mirror copy of whole entire hard drive, paritiuons etc? |
| 23:40.33 | sgeigerbot | While I got a bunch of warnings...this actually compiled the executable! What might I do to make the following gcc command compile my program statically without the warnings. "gcc -g -v xkey.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXtst -lpthread -Wall -static -o xkey" Here's the type of warning I'm getting: warning: Using 'getservbyname' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version |
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| 23:40.53 | lightbright | bob2: ok ill try dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb |
| 23:41.00 | pattieja | lightbright, the only problem with that approach will be that the dd will terminate after 10Gig |
| 23:41.04 | bob2 | bear in mind it will destroy hdb |
| 23:41.05 | lightbright | pattieja: why do all that when a command does everything for you? |
| 23:41.20 | pattieja | lightbright, because that one command does not do all that for you |
| 23:41.20 | eob84 | anyone know of a tutorial I could read about setting up a chrootred enviroment...to keep a user in a spacific directory? |
| 23:41.21 | liran_ | which is the latest stable version of 2.6 kernel? im upgraded to current from woody 2.4.18 so i want to get a new kernel up and runing |
| 23:41.40 | pattieja | lightbright, especially if one of your partitions happens to be beyond the 10Gig boundary on the 20Gig drive |
| 23:41.42 | lightbright | pattieja: you mean it wont just write the data, it will try to write 20gig of space to my 10gig hda? |
| 23:41.51 | pattieja | lightbright, plus you will have an invalid partition table until you fix it |
| 23:41.57 | pattieja | lightbright, correct |
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| 23:42.15 | pattieja | of course it will fail after writing 10Gig which gets you what you want |
| 23:42.17 | Subvertir | you can shrink partitions, but printer salesmen know very little about that sort of thing =) |
| 23:42.21 | lightbright | pattieja: my debian fills 6 gig of my 20gig hard drive! I want to copy the whole drive, paritions etc to a new 10 gig hard drive |
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| 23:42.33 | pattieja | lightbright, yep |
| 23:42.39 | lightbright | bob2: did you know that? that command you gave me wont work according to pattieja ? |
| 23:42.41 | fbi | uh, can you use dd to copy a disk if the destination disk is smaller? |
| 23:42.46 | fbi | i didn't think that was possible |
| 23:42.58 | pattieja | fbi, you can, but you have to clean up after the mess |
| 23:43.05 | lightbright | pattieja: ok so you suggest I do what exactly? |
| 23:43.14 | pattieja | fbi, also, only if the data you are interested is within the size you are copying |
| 23:43.20 | bob2 | it will truncate, yeah |
| 23:43.29 | bob2 | I assumed you'd taken that into account and didn't have data above 10GB |
| 23:43.38 | pattieja | lightbright, recreate the partition tables the way you would like them on the 10Gig drive |
| 23:43.46 | lightbright | bob2: my 20 gig Debian drive is only 6 gig filled |
| 23:44.04 | lightbright | pattieja: do you realise my 20 gig hard drive only contains 6gig of Debian? |
| 23:44.09 | pattieja | lightbright, make sure that / and /home and /usr and /var and any other partitions you have on your 20Gig are created on your 10Gig large enough to hold the data they contain |
| 23:44.21 | pattieja | lightbright, I understand that, but I do not know your partition layout |
| 23:44.36 | lightbright | pattieja: how do I see my partion layout? |
| 23:44.42 | pattieja | fdisk -l /dev/hdN |
| 23:46.06 | lightbright | pattieja: it says for hdb: /dev/hdb1 * 1 2338 18779953+ 83 Linux , /dev/hdb2 2339 2434 771120 5 Extended , /dev/hdb5 2339 2434 771088+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
| 23:46.06 | mar76 | hello, i got a problem with testing security repsitory: 'security.debian.org' is ignored by apt-get, so i changed to 'secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing/' is that ok?? |
| 23:46.08 | pattieja | where hdN is the device name of your 20Gig drive |
| 23:46.24 | lightbright | pattieja: so do I have to create all those perfectly on my new 10gig hda? |
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| 23:47.01 | sparr | where might i have gotten the package sun-j2re1.5 from? |
| 23:47.05 | pattieja | lightbright, I don't know what you mean by perfectly, because if your existing partition scheme is taking up all 20Gig's, then you don't want the same values when you recreate them on your 10Gig drive |
| 23:47.56 | lightbright | pattieja: i dont know what you mean! my only objective is to make a copy of my hdb to my hda, so I can then remove my hdb and only use hda as my Debian |
| 23:48.07 | lightbright | pattieja: know what I mean? |
| 23:48.10 | streuner | !testing security |
| 23:48.11 | dpkg | Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ ;) |
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| 23:48.20 | pattieja | lightbright, I know exactly what you mean |
| 23:48.31 | lightbright | pattieja: so im seeking the best way to do this |
| 23:49.07 | pattieja | lightbright, you have to go through the exercise of creating the partitions on your 10Gig, mkfs'ing filesystems on those new partitions, then tar'ing or rsync'ing the data from your 20Gig partitions to your new partitions on your 10Gig |
| 23:49.22 | lightbright | pattieja: I was hoping there existed a command and program that will create all existing partitions etc from source and create them on destination and then copy everything as is |
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| 23:49.44 | pattieja | partimage might be able to help |
| 23:49.52 | lightbright | pattieja: doesnt any command or app do all that for me? |
| 23:49.59 | pattieja | I'm not sure if it understands how to shrink/grow partitions |
| 23:50.02 | fbi | why not just buy a new disk |
| 23:50.13 | fbi | you can buy an 80 gig disk for 50 bucks |
| 23:50.18 | lightbright | pattieja: E: Couldn't find package partimage |
| 23:50.45 | lightbright | fbi: yes but thats not the point! I want to copy from my hdb to hda |
| 23:51.02 | pattieja | lightbright, try unstable repositories |
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| 23:51.09 | lightbright | pattieja: so whats the first step you recommend? to create all partitions on hda? |
| 23:51.09 | fbi | well what is wrong with the disk to begin with |
| 23:51.17 | fbi | why are you copying it |
| 23:51.17 | saboya | can anyone help me ouy with my onboard sound problem? |
| 23:51.35 | streuner | saboya: laptop? |
| 23:51.42 | saboya | nope, onboard ALC850 |
| 23:51.51 | lightbright | fbi: because the drive is playing up, its VERY OLD! want to copy eveerything acrosss to a new drive before ithe hard drive crashes |
| 23:51.51 | saboya | here's what i get on lspci: |
| 23:51.52 | saboya | 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) |
| 23:51.53 | streuner | saboya: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i audio' say? |
| 23:52.05 | lightbright | pattieja: 1st step? |
| 23:52.12 | saboya | it says exactly that |
| 23:52.13 | fbi | well then what do you mean "that's not the point" |
| 23:52.30 | lightbright | pattieja: you still here? |
| 23:52.32 | fbi | go buy a new disk; install debian; mount bad disk; copy files; throw bad disk ni trash |
| 23:52.38 | fbi | s/ni/in/ |
| 23:52.42 | streuner | saboya: do you have another soundcard? |
| 23:52.46 | saboya | no |
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| 23:53.15 | pattieja | lightbright, yes |
| 23:53.16 | lightbright | fbi: i want the new hard drive to run exactly as it does now |
| 23:53.17 | streuner | saboya: ok, try alsaconf OR buy a emu10k1 - they are cheap |
| 23:53.25 | lightbright | pattieja: so whats the first step you recommend? to create all partitions on hda? |
| 23:53.30 | saboya | :( alsaconf didn't work |
| 23:53.30 | MasterYoda | I am having some trouble programming a serial port |
| 23:53.35 | Guerin | !say lightbright: first use cfdisk to make partitions on the new disk. then cp -a /mnt/old /mnt/new. then install grub on new using grub-install |
| 23:53.36 | dpkg | lightbright: first use cfdisk to make partitions on the new disk. then cp -a /mnt/old /mnt/new. then install grub on new using grub-install |
| 23:53.37 | saboya | emu10k1 are easy to setup? |
| 23:53.38 | pattieja | lightbright, give me the output of the mount command |
| 23:53.39 | MasterYoda | I can recieve data but not send |
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| 23:53.47 | too-quick | how can i get my exim4(which works fine internally) to work with the web? |
| 23:53.48 | streuner | saboya: yes |
| 23:53.51 | MasterYoda | but this problem only occurs between two devices |
| 23:53.54 | saboya | ok |
| 23:53.54 | pattieja | lightbright, and then the output of the df -h command |
| 23:54.04 | saboya | can i pvt you streuner? |
| 23:54.08 | pattieja | lightbright, nevermind, just the output of the df -h command |
| 23:54.08 | fbi | i think what you want to do is clone your system, not use dd. |
| 23:54.13 | streuner | saboya: why didn't alsaconf work? |
| 23:54.21 | MasterYoda | it works fine with another device, and the other device works fine with the second device |
| 23:54.21 | saboya | didn't found any sound devices |
| 23:54.27 | streuner | saboya: just keep the convo in channel, its late here... |
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| 23:54.39 | pattieja | fbi, dd would work in this situation if the destination was greater than or equal to the size of the source |
| 23:54.47 | pattieja | but since it's not... |
| 23:54.53 | Guerin | dd is almost never the right tool for this job |
| 23:54.56 | streuner | saboya: cat /proc/version |
| 23:55.02 | lightbright | pattieja: I pasted output to you |
| 23:55.17 | saboya | ok, now i wanna ask something else... i tried installing alsa stuff several times, now i got some erros at startup (nothing major, just stuff failing), where can I remove that stuff from initializing? |
| 23:55.32 | pattieja | lightbright, unfortunately, you actually have 11 GiB of data in use on your 20Gig disk |
| 23:55.34 | lightbright | pattieja: you get my output? |
| 23:55.37 | Guerin | saboya: does your computer work as expected? |
| 23:55.40 | saboya | Linux version 2.6.8-2-k7 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu May 19 18:03:29 JST 2005 |
| 23:55.43 | saboya | guerin: yes |
| 23:55.55 | lightbright | pattieja: yes but its really 6 gig because im about to delete 5 gig worth of old video files |
| 23:56.02 | Guerin | !warnings |
| 23:56.02 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 23:56.04 | lightbright | pattieja: so consider the 11 as 6 |
| 23:56.12 | pattieja | lightbright, you will need to do so before copying data to the new drive |
| 23:56.22 | lightbright | pattieja: yes im about to do it now |
| 23:56.24 | pattieja | lightbright, also, can you give me the output of 'cat /proc/swaps' |
| 23:56.32 | lightbright | pattieja: ok |
| 23:56.39 | pattieja | lightbright, alos, I will be leaving in about 5 minutes |
| 23:56.44 | pattieja | s/alos/also/ |
| 23:56.46 | streuner | saboya: Have you tried groups.google.com too? |
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| 23:56.56 | saboya | not really |
| 23:56.59 | saboya | but i google'd a lot for it |
| 23:57.00 | Falkom | do you know any clipboard with iccm support,please? |
| 23:57.09 | Guerin | pattieja: oh noes! then who will wipe lightbright's arse ? |
| 23:57.15 | fbi | haha |
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| 23:57.18 | lightbright | pattieja: what else do you need from me? |
| 23:57.30 | pattieja | lightbright, how much memory do you have in the box, and what kernel is debian running currently? |
| 23:57.33 | lightbright | pattieja: before you leave, please finish helping me :) |
| 23:57.34 | streuner | saboya: well, if you can't find any results on usenet just buy a emu10k1 if you have a free slot |
| 23:57.42 | lightbright | pattieja: i have 259mb ram |
| 23:57.45 | pattieja | lightbright, if we can finish in 3 minutes |
| 23:57.51 | pattieja | k |
| 23:57.59 | saboya | got all free.. but it should work ,i dont understand :( done everything right |
| 23:57.59 | Guerin | 259? |
| 23:58.02 | saboya | thanks for the help anyway |
| 23:58.04 | lightbright | pattieja: how can I tell kernel? |
| 23:58.06 | Guerin | i want a 3MB stick of ram too! |
| 23:58.10 | pattieja | lightbright, are you prepared to destroy /dev/hda? |
| 23:58.14 | pattieja | lightbright, uname -r |
| 23:58.15 | lightbright | pattieja: Yes |
| 23:58.26 | lightbright | pattieja: 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 23:58.30 | pattieja | lightbright, k |
| 23:58.37 | pattieja | fdisk /dev/hda |
| 23:58.39 | lightbright | pattieja: anything else you need? |
| 23:58.47 | pattieja | type these commands in |
| 23:58.59 | lightbright | pattieja: ok i typed fdisk /dev/hda |
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| 23:59.03 | pattieja | sorry, get out of fdisk by using q to quit |
| 23:59.09 | pattieja | umount /dev/hda |
| 23:59.16 | pattieja | umount /dev/hda1 |
| 23:59.16 | saboya | another question: i have removed kde and all its applications. but the shortcuts for it in the 'Debian' menu submenus were not, and the programs also were not removed from 'known applications' in alt-f2. how can i remove them? |
| 23:59.17 | lightbright | ok |
| 23:59.28 | Falkom | do you know any clipboard with iccm support,please? |
| 23:59.31 | lightbright | pattieja: I typed umount /dev/hda1 |
| 23:59.33 | pattieja | lightbright, should be the second umount, not the first |
| 23:59.34 | pattieja | lightbright, k |
| 23:59.41 | pattieja | lightbright, now get back into fdisk /dev/hda |
| 23:59.48 | lightbright | ok done |
| 23:59.51 | kike | hy |
