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| 00:00.52 | notty | how can i chmod +x all the dirs and subdirs in a directory ? |
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| 00:01.15 | antgel | notty: chmod -R? |
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| 00:01.27 | notty | antgel: only dirs not files |
| 00:01.41 | antgel | notty: use find -exec. man find to pull out just dirs |
| 00:01.42 | solinux | notty find |
| 00:02.07 | chuck_gr | foi ya can try here deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
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| 00:05.07 | icblenke | find . -type d -exec chmod +X {} \; |
| 00:05.24 | mhall | icblenke: don't you have to do \{\} \; |
| 00:05.32 | icblenke | what shell do you use? |
| 00:05.40 | mhall | icblenke: bash 3 |
| 00:05.52 | icblenke | there's no $ in front, so, no? |
| 00:06.20 | notty | what i have to use ? |
| 00:06.21 | icblenke | echo {} |
| 00:06.25 | mhall | icblenke: ah i wasn't sure |
| 00:06.29 | notty | find . -type d -exec chmod +X {} \; dosen't work |
| 00:06.31 | icblenke | if in doubt, echo it. |
| 00:06.35 | mhall | icblenke: it works as you said |
| 00:06.37 | icblenke | lower case X. |
| 00:06.43 | notty | i know.. |
| 00:06.46 | notty | i put lowercase x |
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| 00:07.19 | stew | X and x are the same for directories |
| 00:08.16 | gianluca_ | can anybody suggest me a hughe ftp graphic client? |
| 00:08.19 | icblenke | notty: what +x, u g or o? |
| 00:08.30 | notty | a |
| 00:08.33 | notty | o |
| 00:08.39 | Gost | hello, I have some problem with k3b . When I try to burn DVD (data) I get error : :-( mkisofs failed : 256 ; Warning at exit ; Most likely mkisofs failed in some way . Does somebody know how to fix that ? |
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| 00:09.07 | hawking | what is the command to change keyboard language? |
| 00:09.18 | TheCount | hawking: on the console? try loadkeys |
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| 00:10.31 | hawking | thecount: there is a command starting with set but I forgot the exact name |
| 00:10.43 | mhall | stew: what is the X bit |
| 00:10.56 | chnaon | Hi all... Is there any way to change the default gcc? I need to compile a program but it wont work with gcc 4. |
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| 00:11.03 | mhall | gianluca_: gftp is a classic |
| 00:11.12 | mhall | gianluca_: if you can handle command line lftp is really good |
| 00:11.23 | icblenke | notty: find . -type d -exec chmod ao+x {} \; |
| 00:11.25 | stew | mhall: X means +x on directories or files that were already +x |
| 00:11.58 | gianluca_ | mhall, gftp is not so good |
| 00:12.15 | gianluca_ | and for my utilisation the command line it's not good |
| 00:12.28 | stew | mhall: like "find | xargs chmod +X" is the same as "find -type d | xargs chmod +x" |
| 00:12.46 | mhall | gianluca_: what about a KDE io slave |
| 00:13.08 | mhall | stew: hmm that's a pretty neat option |
| 00:13.20 | mhall | stew: what i've been looking for is something a bit trickier |
| 00:13.27 | mhall | stew: +x to files that ought to be +x |
| 00:13.29 | gianluca_ | mhall, what? |
| 00:13.33 | bucky | gianluca_, kbear is good if you got kde |
| 00:13.46 | mhall | stew: the best i've come up with is using file and awk to do this |
| 00:13.52 | bucky | apt-cache show kbear |
| 00:13.52 | hackeron | can anyone recommend a text or curses/slang based cd/dvd writing tool that makes writing data disks easy? |
| 00:13.56 | mhall | stew: based on the magic values of the contents |
| 00:13.57 | stew | mhall: "ought to be"? |
| 00:13.59 | stew | ahh |
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| 00:14.03 | Rawplayer | re |
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| 00:14.13 | mhall | stew: i know, ought to be is hard to define |
| 00:14.25 | mhall | stew: i've been thinking i should read up on libmagic and code such a utility |
| 00:14.28 | lightbright | valdyn: hi again |
| 00:14.30 | nse | hey guys, apt-get dist-upgrade to etch removed my k3b, why? |
| 00:14.30 | stew | mhall: tried "modprobe mind-reader" ? |
| 00:14.34 | gianluca_ | I use gnome :( |
| 00:14.42 | mhall | stew: for use when you have a dir wherein which all the perms have gotten fux0red for some reason |
| 00:14.45 | bucky | i like gftp |
| 00:14.51 | mhall | stew: say perhaps bad tar job or who knows what |
| 00:15.16 | stew | it would certainly be doable |
| 00:15.22 | mhall | stew: if i actually wrote a formal ute with libmagic i could have CLI options for, say, scripts, files whose description matched some pattern |
| 00:15.29 | mhall | stew: perhaps ELF files |
| 00:15.38 | lightbright | valdyn: just wanted to let you know that I copied everything from hdb to hda and it loads and works great. I used this command, in case you want to try it yourself: rsync -ravlpogtDH --progress --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc / /mnt |
| 00:15.40 | mhall | stew: some sensible choices that a person might want |
| 00:15.42 | bucky | gianluca_, apt-cache search ftp |grep client |
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| 00:15.52 | mhall | stew: but i can't conceive of the different possibilities |
| 00:16.02 | mhall | stew: this could be done a number of equally reasonable ways |
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| 00:16.33 | liable | bucky: so was kigsley's reports on #debian interesting? |
| 00:16.36 | stew | mhall: i need the opposite actually, i have stupid web programmers that think their php files need to be chmod 777 |
| 00:16.55 | mhall | stew: well i could write a single utility capable of coping with all of these issues |
| 00:17.07 | mhall | stew: some kind of higher level non brute force version of chmod |
| 00:17.27 | bucky | liable, haha.. of the top ten potty mouths in #debian, dpkg was 6th |
| 00:17.29 | mhall | stew: also i would of course support -0 so you could use my utility on pathologically names stuff |
| 00:17.36 | mhall | bucky: link? |
| 00:17.50 | liable | bucky: hehe :) |
| 00:17.55 | bucky | sec |
| 00:17.56 | stew | mhall: you don't need to support -0, let xargs handle that for you |
| 00:18.04 | mhall | stew: hmm |
| 00:18.11 | mhall | stew: suppose you are right |
| 00:18.28 | mhall | stew: more i think about this, the easier it sounds |
| 00:18.28 | lightbright | !chroot |
| 00:18.29 | dpkg | i guess chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 00:18.32 | bucky | mhall liable http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ |
| 00:18.42 | mhall | stew: i bet i could do it with perhaps 150 lines of C++ |
| 00:18.47 | mhall | stew: maybe 500 regular C |
| 00:18.54 | mhall | stew: because C strings are sux0r |
| 00:19.14 | mhall | stew: so what ideas do you have for it |
| 00:19.14 | stew | and like 20 in [insert scripting language du jour] |
| 00:19.29 | nachoguy | With debian netboot on a soekris 4801, the boot halts after the soekris box tftps splash.rle. I DO have the modified pxelinux.0 for the soekris4801 and I have set the serial baudrate to 9600 for both the soekris bios and pxelinux/debian. Does anyone have any ideas on what I'm missing?? |
| 00:19.31 | mhall | stew: i'll code it up this weekend when i'm done unwinding from my programming contest tomorrow |
| 00:19.42 | liable | haha, i even beat deadcat :) |
| 00:20.05 | bucky | he wrote a nice script and the bans are interestin |
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| 00:20.41 | stew | mhall: it should have some sort of --dry-run |
| 00:20.43 | liable | man thats sad, jesus, horney, loser are profanities.. |
| 00:20.56 | lightbright | every time I boot Debian. it says: can't load shpchp. Any fix for this? |
| 00:21.00 | stew | liable: jesus, stop being such a horny loser |
| 00:21.11 | liable | heh :) |
| 00:21.18 | mhall | stew: yeah true |
| 00:21.28 | mhall | stew: otherwise you could, fubar stuff |
| 00:21.45 | mhall | stew: i suppose i'll need to support whatever chmod supports |
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| 00:22.44 | black | hello everybody!!!! |
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| 00:22.55 | black | i need some help with glade |
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| 00:23.19 | black | does somebody know how to put all the glade windows in only one window? |
| 00:23.20 | tokyo-287 | black : what is your problem ? |
| 00:23.27 | smacnay | how does one view which packages have been put on "hold" - command line. |
| 00:23.30 | black | like the gimp |
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| 00:23.42 | mhall | bucky: hell yes! i'm ranked for swearing! |
| 00:23.46 | mhall | bucky: but i need to use more |
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| 00:23.49 | lightbright | stew: hi there, hope you are well |
| 00:23.53 | black | you have the option to put all the windows in one window |
| 00:23.54 | liable | hah, reading through some of the bans is quite amusing. |
| 00:24.05 | mhall | bucky: fuck the fucking fuckers for fucking up my R rating |
| 00:24.07 | bucky | mhall, he did a nice job on that |
| 00:24.12 | lightbright | liable: as long as you are not on it its ok :) |
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| 00:25.17 | bucky | the random quotes are funny http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/statistics.html |
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| 00:25.47 | mhall | i mean that's pretty sad when i get beaten by the pig-fucking bot |
| 00:25.51 | mhall | what the fuck |
| 00:25.59 | mhall | i can't even outswear a computer program |
| 00:26.03 | mhall | and i code computer programs |
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| 00:26.19 | mhall | you'd think that i would swear a lot, having to write so many of them |
| 00:26.48 | thc | wtf? why did my other nick get capitalized on that statistics page |
| 00:26.54 | thc | i never use FBI |
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| 00:27.12 | abrotman | !debstats |
| 00:27.12 | dpkg | [debstats] managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 00:27.14 | foo__ | where can i get a deb for mplayer plugin for muzilla |
| 00:27.33 | thc | !muzilla |
| 00:27.36 | foo__ | mozilla |
| 00:27.41 | thc | i know that. |
| 00:27.50 | liable | foo__: its in contrib |
| 00:27.53 | hackeron | can anyone recommend a text or curses/slang based cd/dvd writing tool that makes writing data disks easy? |
| 00:27.59 | foo__ | liable whats contrib |
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| 00:28.10 | bucky | mhall, do you know Sean Champ |
| 00:28.15 | liable | !contrib |
| 00:28.15 | dpkg | methinks contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free packages To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need contrib on the end. |
| 00:28.36 | foo__ | thanks |
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| 00:29.27 | black | someone work with glade? |
| 00:29.39 | ptlis | "ptlis couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 242 joins during this reporting period!" |
| 00:29.47 | abrotman | black: why? |
| 00:29.47 | ptlis | Damned intarweb connection :( |
| 00:29.55 | infernix | hm. what's wrong with my X setup when there is no window manager started at login? |
| 00:29.57 | mhall | bucky: no i don't why? |
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| 00:30.16 | bucky | mhall, nevermind... he's in fresno, my mistake |
| 00:30.16 | thc | infernix: install a display manager if you want a graphical login |
| 00:30.26 | infernix | gdm and gnome are all installed. |
| 00:30.37 | thc | infernix: X log errors? |
| 00:30.38 | infernix | upon login, gnome-wm doesnt seem to start. |
| 00:30.42 | black | abrotman: because I want to know something I can't find anywhere |
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| 00:30.47 | thc | what is gnome-wm |
| 00:30.47 | infernix | X starts. the WM doesnt. |
| 00:30.53 | thc | !gnome-wm |
| 00:30.53 | dpkg | GNOME is NOT a window manager! |
| 00:30.55 | abrotman | black: you might have better luck on irc.gnome.org .. |
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| 00:31.12 | mhall | bucky: ah, yeah, i'm in stockton |
| 00:31.14 | infernix | so sawfish doesnt start then? |
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| 00:31.21 | mhall | bucky: land of murdered people |
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| 00:31.32 | thc | infernix: how would we know what starts? it's your system |
| 00:31.39 | bucky | stockton has had it's share of bizarre crime |
| 00:32.08 | mhall | bucky: so has modesto, my hometown |
| 00:32.16 | black | abrotman: that server doesn't exist |
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| 00:32.19 | mhall | bucky: neither one is doing well now esp. wrt vehicle theft |
| 00:32.20 | abrotman | black: yes it does |
| 00:32.44 | black | is a server or a chanel? |
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| 00:32.50 | abrotman | black: it's a server |
| 00:32.54 | bucky | too bad really... i like that part of calif |
| 00:33.11 | mhall | bucky: but as long as i get to bang my gf before i get shot at least i'll die happy |
| 00:33.16 | mhall | oh btw, i'm going to hell |
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| 00:33.31 | black | abrotman: I am adding it on my X-Chat and it says it isn't exist |
| 00:33.47 | bucky | mhall, you know why athiests don't have as good sex as others? |
| 00:33.55 | mhall | bucky: no. why? |
| 00:33.56 | bucky | they don't have anyone to cry out to |
| 00:33.57 | abrotman | black: in Xchat .. right click on irc.gnome.org .. and choose Connect as IRC server |
| 00:34.01 | mhall | bucky: hahaha |
| 00:34.11 | black | thats all rigth! |
| 00:34.13 | black | thanks |
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| 00:34.17 | thc | i always scream my own name during sex. |
| 00:34.21 | Chopstix | does anyone know how to boot linux from an external harddrive? |
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| 00:34.23 | abrotman | thc ? |
| 00:34.31 | abrotman | oh thc .. oh .. oh thc! |
| 00:34.38 | mhall | thc: damn tetrahydrocannabinol would take a while to scream |
| 00:34.41 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.48 | thc | abrotman: nah, i scream the entire name, tetrahydrocannabinol |
| 00:35.06 | nano_sor | is there a way to change permissions of a directory and all of the subdirectories? I want my directories all be 777 |
| 00:35.15 | thc | bucky: i can't stop. it's addicting |
| 00:35.17 | abrotman | thc: and then she says "Bless you" ? |
| 00:35.21 | thc | haha |
| 00:35.22 | mhall | lol i cracked the joke on thc's nick before he could, i guess he must be using the thc just now |
| 00:35.32 | foo___ | what was the nick of the dude who told me about contrib |
| 00:35.35 | foo___ | liable something |
| 00:35.37 | thc | mhall: it's called lag |
| 00:35.43 | thc | it's been happening to me a lot |
| 00:35.44 | foo___ | oh |
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| 00:35.46 | abrotman | !contrib |
| 00:35.46 | foo___ | liable you there? |
| 00:35.47 | dpkg | hmm... contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free packages To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need contrib on the end. |
| 00:35.54 | streuner | nano_sor: IlohaMail? |
| 00:35.58 | foo___ | i figured that, though the plugin doesnt work |
| 00:36.10 | abrotman | plugin ? |
| 00:36.10 | mhall | thc: thc-induced lag i bet |
| 00:36.12 | thc | i see about 10 msgs appear at a time, heavy traffic on the server i have this account on |
| 00:36.38 | foo___ | abrotman how can i see the plugins that mozilla is using |
| 00:36.49 | abrotman | about:plugins .. i think |
| 00:37.08 | abrotman | foo__: it's in the Help menu :) |
| 00:37.22 | foo___ | im talking about firefox |
| 00:37.27 | foo___ | the 'about' doesnt give the plugins list |
| 00:37.28 | streuner | nano_sor: chmod -R 777 /foo |
| 00:37.28 | abrotman | make up your mind! |
| 00:37.40 | foo___ | i thought mozilla and firefox are the same |
| 00:37.40 | foo___ | hmm |
| 00:37.48 | foo___ | if i installed a mozilla plugin it wont be compatible with firefox? |
| 00:37.50 | abrotman | foo__: about:plugins works in firefox too |
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| 00:38.12 | foo___ | help->about ? |
| 00:38.14 | nano_sor | streuner: thanks |
| 00:38.24 | foo___ | in help i have "about mozilla firefox" |
| 00:38.29 | foo___ | and it doesnt list the plugins |
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| 00:38.31 | thc | foo___: kill your clone, you make nick complete a nightmare |
| 00:38.34 | bucky | foo__, you have to restart your browser for it to work |
| 00:38.35 | abrotman | foo__: in the URL bar .. type "about:plugins" |
| 00:38.45 | streuner | nano_sor: i hope you know what you doing... |
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| 00:38.53 | foo___ | it will timeout :) |
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| 00:39.01 | abrotman | dude |
| 00:39.01 | Fozzie | 'lo all |
| 00:39.03 | foo___ | oh ok :) |
| 00:39.09 | foo___ | yea works |
| 00:39.10 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha |
| 00:39.12 | abrotman | !smack foo__ |
| 00:39.54 | foo___ | that mplayer doesnt display .wmv files correctly :( i see black and sometimes weird colors, but cant see nothing from the movie :| |
| 00:39.59 | Fozzie | I got a question. I'm running Debian testing with KDE and I'm trying to get EnemyTerritory to work. Everything's all working except the sound. How do I get non-kde apps to work with kde ? |
| 00:40.04 | foo___ | also it complains about missing .ttf file |
| 00:40.12 | thc | foo___: you installed the win32 codecs? |
| 00:40.26 | abrotman | Fozzie: ask #debian-kde |
| 00:40.32 | Fozzie | okey doke. |
| 00:40.37 | bucky | !tell foo__ about marillat |
| 00:40.37 | streuner | hm |
| 00:40.44 | abrotman | Fozzie: and take Gonzo with you! |
| 00:40.54 | thc | bucky you just told the wrong foo |
| 00:40.59 | thc | foo___: kill that client |
| 00:41.05 | mhall | whiskey tango foxtrot |
| 00:41.12 | abrotman | wtf ? |
| 00:41.17 | bucky | thc, sorry |
| 00:41.19 | streuner | haha |
| 00:41.23 | mhall | if we have that many foo's where are the bar, baz, and boo characters |
| 00:41.23 | foo___ | thc w32codecs - this one? |
| 00:41.29 | foo___ | how can i kill it thc |
| 00:41.32 | thc | bucky i don't care, it's his fault for having two nicks in here |
| 00:41.40 | bop1 | here |
| 00:41.52 | bucky | bop1, how many times are you logged it? |
| 00:42.03 | thc | foo___: yes that's the right codec package |
| 00:42.04 | bop1 | i just got disconnected |
| 00:42.09 | bop1 | and it should ping timeout soon |
| 00:42.12 | bop1 | i cant kill it :) |
| 00:42.31 | bop1 | thc i installed it |
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| 00:42.35 | nano_sor | does anyone have experience installing mambo before? |
| 00:42.39 | thc | try and watch that *.wmv again |
| 00:42.54 | thc | after restarting mplayer of course |
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| 00:43.39 | bucky | nano_sor, it's like installing anyother php based cms i would imagine |
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| 00:44.26 | bop1 | thc again, after doing what? nothing was changed since then |
| 00:44.26 | nano_sor | i am having trouble installing it it gives me blank pages when i am doing the installing steps... |
| 00:44.54 | thc | bop1: i was saying restart mplayer after installing the codec package |
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| 00:45.28 | bop1 | oh i installed it before.. |
| 00:45.34 | bop1 | btw Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf). |
| 00:45.39 | bop1 | i get this error too |
| 00:45.50 | thc | bop1: did you use marillat's mplayer package? |
| 00:46.09 | bop1 | yes |
| 00:46.20 | bucky | nano_sor, make a file called phpinfo.php and put this in it <?php phpinfo(); ?> and put it in you document root and navigate your browser to it and make sure your php is working |
| 00:46.22 | bop1 | oh in mozilla with the plugin it works |
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| 00:46.53 | bop1 | but normally it doesnt, when i run it from the command line |
| 00:47.17 | yumeng | hi,all. my CPU is AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+, which select kernel cpu family? AMD k6, k7? |
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| 00:47.30 | dvs | yumeng: k7 |
| 00:47.44 | yumeng | oh, thanks |
| 00:47.44 | dvs | yumeng: but i686 to play it safe. |
| 00:47.45 | mhall | yumeng: k7 man |
| 00:47.47 | thc | that's odd that you are getting that error, the mplayer package should have grabbed _everything_ it needs |
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| 00:47.59 | mhall | dvs: k7 works, it's like a fast AthXP chip |
| 00:48.11 | bop1 | thc do you have a .ttf file in your .mplayer directory? |
| 00:48.17 | bop1 | that subfont.ttf |
| 00:48.38 | thc | bop1: i only have 'config' in ~/.mplayer |
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| 00:48.48 | bop1 | so you probably get that error too |
| 00:48.59 | bop1 | start mplayer from the console |
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| 00:49.01 | bop1 | and watch the messages |
| 00:49.02 | thc | dunno, i don't really use mplayer for video.... |
| 00:49.09 | bop1 | i see |
| 00:49.10 | bucky | mplayer always complains about that.. either get the fonts or link some other small fonts to the name mplayer is looking for = it's on google |
| 00:49.14 | thc | i use it for audio, and not even that often, i prefer mpg321 these days |
| 00:50.12 | mhall | i really hate windows now more than ever; i was trying to set it up on a box for some friends and the sata driver crashes the install with IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL bluescreen |
| 00:50.19 | diego | i'm looking for a way to run automated backups from one server to another (both under my control) over the internet. it needs to be over SSL/TLS and be bandwidth-efficient, with the ability to limit bandwidth, and needs to be compressed on the server storing the backups. any suggestions? rdiff-backup looks like it would almost do the trick but it wouldn't compress on the backup server so it's not exactly what i'm looking for |
| 00:50.25 | bop1 | btw when installing deb packages (X related) it automatically adds them to the kde menu etc? |
| 00:50.28 | mhall | i wish those bastards could deliver at least minimally comprehensible error messages |
| 00:50.30 | bucky | mhall, i got that recentl |
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| 00:50.45 | mhall | or let me fucking google the kernel code to see where the error is triggered |
| 00:50.53 | thc | bop1: they should, if you install 'menu' |
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| 00:51.17 | mhall | grep* |
| 00:51.18 | mhall | not google |
| 00:51.20 | mhall | i'm out of it |
| 00:51.27 | bucky | mhall, i had to format the xp partition with w2k then back out of the intsall and install xp to the previously created partition |
| 00:51.30 | SuperSox | mhall: are you trying to install windows onto a sata drive? |
| 00:51.37 | mhall | SuperSox: yeah i know it's crazy |
| 00:51.43 | mhall | SuperSox: but that's all there is in the box |
| 00:51.56 | bucky | mhall, it's not a silicon image chipset is it? |
| 00:51.57 | SuperSox | mhall: you can't as far as I remember :) |
| 00:52.00 | mhall | SuperSox: if it were my box i would have used debian with install26 |
| 00:52.06 | bucky | nforce 2 ? |
| 00:52.17 | mhall | SuperSox: you have to hit F6 and give it a SCSI/RAID driver floppy |
| 00:52.18 | TheCount | .o( I sense much NT in you.\nNT leads to Bluescreen.\nBluescreen leads to downtime.\nDowntime leads to suffering.\nNT is the path to the darkside.\nPowerful Unix is.\n ) |
| 00:52.19 | snowgeese | liable |
| 00:52.21 | mhall | SuperSox: Yes! floppy only |
| 00:52.29 | mhall | TheCount: agreed, 100% |
| 00:52.31 | Gigs | in sysctl.conf .. /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time -> net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time= or is it sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time= |
| 00:52.35 | gianluca_ | hey guys, I'm using FlashFXP in wine |
| 00:52.42 | gianluca_ | but on all FTPs I get this |
| 00:52.42 | SuperSox | mhall: I think the only way is a slipstreaned XP disk (or an ide drive) |
| 00:52.42 | mhall | bucky: nforce4 nvraid actually |
| 00:52.42 | gianluca_ | LIST |
| 00:52.43 | gianluca_ | 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. |
| 00:52.43 | gianluca_ | 426 Data connection closed, transfer aborted. |
| 00:52.53 | SuperSox | mhall: hehe, that's just for the drivers.... :P |
| 00:52.59 | gianluca_ | there are no network problems (I've got a router) |
| 00:52.59 | TheCount | gianluca_: masquerading/nat? |
| 00:53.17 | mhall | SuperSox: but... it recognizes the device |
| 00:53.18 | SuperSox | mhall: I could of course be wrong, it's been a while since I've installed windows, but I seem to recall something about it not installing on sata drives |
| 00:53.22 | gianluca_ | sorry TheCount |
| 00:53.22 | gianluca_ | ? |
| 00:53.24 | bucky | mhall, you know whats scary is they can't get their drivers right for it and they have the hardware api's |
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| 00:53.29 | mhall | SuperSox: hmm what do you suppose i should google |
| 00:53.33 | mhall | bucky: yeah i know |
| 00:53.41 | mhall | bucky: and it's the vendor of the device making the code too |
| 00:53.45 | bucky | mhall, i had to format the xp partition with w2k then back out of the intsall and install xp to the previously created partition |
| 00:53.49 | mhall | bucky: double wtf |
| 00:53.56 | SuperSox | mhall: installing windows on a sata drive? :S |
| 00:53.57 | mhall | bucky: hmm |
| 00:53.59 | gianluca_ | I think I've hot problems only on ftps with port different from 21 |
| 00:54.04 | phogg | chkrootkit tells me I have processes hidden from the ps command and a possible LKM trojan. Is there anything normal that would hide processes? How do I tell what I've got? |
| 00:54.10 | mhall | SuperSox: believe me i wouldn't do it if i didn't have to |
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| 00:54.14 | bucky | because w2k is dumb and doesn't care |
| 00:54.15 | ProperMadDad | gianluca : why use flashFXP ? |
| 00:54.29 | mhall | bucky: hmm i will have to try it |
| 00:54.35 | mhall | bucky: i will make ntfs part with knoppix |
| 00:54.38 | SuperSox | mhall: *hugs* I understand/feel your pain :) |
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| 00:55.00 | mhall | SuperSox: sad part is i undertook it as community service project |
| 00:55.08 | mhall | SuperSox: not realizing it would amount to lubeless sodomy |
| 00:55.14 | bucky | mhall, if you can.. but knoppix captive ntfs requires the ntfs.dll from the hard drive |
| 00:55.21 | gianluca_ | ProperMadDad, I use a lot of pub and stro, with very strange tags |
| 00:55.37 | SuperSox | mhall: To add to the confusion, when Windows XP was developed SATA wasn't yet a recognised standard so XP doesn't detect SATA drives when you are installing for the first time. |
| 00:55.39 | gianluca_ | i can't find something similar to FlashFXP (really the best, but not for linux :(( |
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| 00:55.47 | bucky | i've never formated ntfs from any linux |
| 00:55.50 | SuperSox | mhall: from http://www.hothardware.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=18&threadid=22321&enterthread=y |
| 00:55.51 | mhall | SuperSox: but it does if you use the RAID disk |
| 00:56.01 | cevizoglu | bucky, thank God! |
| 00:56.03 | ProperMadDad | gianluca : will gftp not work ? |
| 00:56.16 | gianluca_ | ProperMadDad, it is so unstable... |
| 00:56.30 | gianluca_ | it often crasher also |
| 00:56.32 | SuperSox | mhall: hahahh holy hell, I just found that post at random, but I used to live with the guy that wrote it :D |
| 00:57.13 | gianluca_ | but the problem is that I can't connect on port different from 21 |
| 00:57.14 | ProperMadDad | gianluca : hmm I've never had gftp crash |
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| 00:57.33 | gianluca_ | ProperMadDad, try to transfer something like 700+ files |
| 00:57.42 | gianluca_ | it's a 90% crash |
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| 00:57.56 | mhall | SuperSox: that's a goofy coincidence |
| 00:57.56 | gianluca_ | (confirmed by other people who used it) |
| 00:58.01 | mhall | SuperSox: was he a windows pro |
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| 00:58.12 | mhall | SuperSox: *shudder* good thing you don't live with him anymore ;-) |
| 00:58.15 | SuperSox | mhall: nah but knows his hardware quite well |
| 00:58.16 | mhall | SuperSox: corrupting influence |
| 00:58.19 | tnks | hi all. I'm not sure about a GPG error I'm getting: "GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net testing/security-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY" |
| 00:58.28 | SuperSox | mhall: hehe, he was my ex gf's flatmate |
| 00:58.31 | tnks | Is this something everyone is seeing? |
| 00:58.33 | nano_sor | i used "apt-get install mysql-server-4.1", is there a way to completely remove it? |
| 00:58.35 | ProperMadDad | gianluca : I transfer 80 gigs quite often |
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| 00:58.39 | mhall | SuperSox: i am going to try booting up the pigfucker with no driver and see wtf it does |
| 00:58.51 | thc | !tell tnks about apt secure |
| 00:58.58 | mhall | SuperSox: if this does not work i will sabotage array in other box and steal one of the paride drives to use as boot disk |
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| 00:59.05 | gianluca_ | well, but the problem is the same, I can't connect on port different from 21 |
| 00:59.05 | mhall | SuperSox: i'm tired of fucking with it |
| 00:59.07 | SuperSox | mhall: hehe good luck with it :) |
| 00:59.14 | gianluca_ | with ALL programs |
| 00:59.23 | lightbright | if anyone plans on copying everything from one hard drive to another and then boot Debian from the new hard drive, then ask me the best way. After help from many here and after 2 days of testing, I found a great way that works good. |
| 00:59.29 | gianluca_ | but the network is setted up like other PCs... |
| 00:59.37 | mhall | SuperSox: well worse comes to worse |
| 00:59.45 | TheCount | gianluca_: ftp is more than one port, and the network code might mix it up |
| 00:59.46 | mhall | SuperSox: if i don't get it working at least my gf is hot |
| 00:59.56 | bop1 | how can i make a screenshot of my linux? |
| 01:00.00 | eeyore- | lightbright: what? |
| 01:00.00 | mhall | SuperSox: so a lot more could be going wrong in life than not getting stupid windows set up |
| 01:00.03 | nse | Hello everybody, I have a list of packages that I wish to remove in a file named lib.txt which I did with deborphan > lib.txt My point is that I want to remove the packges listed in lib.txt with apt-get remove. What I have to do? |
| 01:00.09 | bop1 | of my X that is |
| 01:00.20 | gianluca_ | TheCount, but from other PCs I can't connect on every port |
| 01:00.26 | gianluca_ | why on this not? |
| 01:00.30 | TheCount | gianluca_: router |
| 01:00.35 | thc | bop1: you should have a screenshot app installed, you can also use gimp |
| 01:00.39 | TheCount | nse: xargs < lib.txt dpkg --purge |
| 01:00.40 | lightbright | eeyore-: I said, After help from many here and after 2 days of testing, I found a great way that works good to make a mirror copy of 1 hard drive to another and have that new hard drive boot Debian |
| 01:00.43 | eeyore- | lightbright: what's wrong with dd? or, a nice application of knoppix (or some other) bootable cd? |
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| 01:01.03 | hawking | does anyone know the command to change the keyboard language? |
| 01:01.05 | bop1 | TheCount hmm xargs reads from stdin? |
| 01:01.10 | eeyore- | lightbright: shouldn't take *two days* to figure out :-) |
| 01:01.11 | gianluca_ | yes TheCount, but with Windows on this PC I can connect, with other pcs also....I don't think the problem is the router :( |
| 01:01.12 | lightbright | eeyore-: dd wont work going from larger hd to a smaller one! my source as 20gig and destination was 10gig! dd doesnt work like that |
| 01:01.15 | thc | !tell hawking about drxx |
| 01:01.19 | TheCount | bop1: yupp |
| 01:01.26 | bop1 | oh ofcourse it does. |
| 01:01.37 | eeyore- | lightbright: ok, then we're getting into the specifics ... if the "dest" one is smaller, tar/untar |
| 01:01.43 | bop1 | i was wondering how you can do like 'more' does.. display usage if no input, or parse it if there is input |
| 01:01.50 | lightbright | eeyore-: it took me 2 days because it was a challenge mirroring a hard drive that is larger than the destionation |
| 01:01.52 | bop1 | in C i know, but in bash.. |
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| 01:01.56 | nse | TheCount: thanks. |
| 01:01.57 | TheCount | gianluca_: then it's the network code of wine, or rather the address translation/whatever they do. it should be an FAQ, used google? |
| 01:02.05 | SuperSox | mhall: hehe, chicks dig unix :) |
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| 01:02.34 | lightbright | eeyore-: tar didnt work well either, it didnt copy /dev and when you boot it says kernal panick no /dev permissions! But as I said, I got it all worked out with rsync command :) |
| 01:02.40 | punkass | is there a way to grab a line out of file based on its line number? |
| 01:02.44 | eeyore- | lightbright: assuming the "dest" drive is big enough to hold the "source" drive, just tar/untar (or dump/restore) and follow up with bootloader install |
| 01:02.52 | gianluca_ | yes TheCount, but I couldn't find anything helpful |
| 01:02.56 | nano_sor | i used "apt-get remove pkg" removed a package, i remember there's another command that delete all the left overs, but i can't recall |
| 01:03.05 | TheCount | punkass: maybe with awk, definitely with perl, most likely with head/tail |
| 01:03.06 | Phated | nano_sor: --purge? |
| 01:03.08 | lightbright | so if anyone needs to copy from large hd to smaller one, please ask me, adn I will step you trough it |
| 01:03.19 | nano_sor | Phated: oh yes, thanks! |
| 01:03.20 | TheCount | nano_sor: dpkg --purge package |
| 01:03.24 | lightbright | eeyore-: that didnt work, but rsync worked |
| 01:03.28 | eeyore- | lightbright: you don't need rsync. assuming you use ext2/ext3, dump/restore would be just fine |
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| 01:03.38 | Phated | nano_sor: No problem. |
| 01:03.45 | mhall | SuperSox: oh you will _love_ this |
| 01:03.50 | lightbright | eeyore-: no, only rsync worked |
| 01:03.56 | TheCount | punkass: head -n 23 file | tail -n 1 |
| 01:03.57 | mhall | SuperSox: i tried it without sata driver |
| 01:04.03 | SuperSox | mhall: wand it worked? |
| 01:04.06 | lightbright | eeyore-: i told you tar didnt go the job |
| 01:04.06 | eeyore- | lightbright: uh huh. tell me again why dump/restore won't work? |
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| 01:04.15 | mhall | SuperSox: and it decided i have two identical 131072 mb drives on ide bus 0 target 0 |
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| 01:04.19 | eeyore- | lightbright: dump/restore != tar/untar |
| 01:04.20 | punkass | TheCount: yeah ok thats what i was doing..was just curious if there was a better way |
| 01:04.23 | bop1 | how can i take a screenshot of my X? |
| 01:04.27 | mhall | SuperSox: how about that? is that the richest of the rich or what? lol |
| 01:04.32 | TheCount | punkass: I suppose there is *cough* |
| 01:04.36 | kittenbot | cat /etc/passwd | sed -n '5{p;q}' |
| 01:04.37 | gianluca_ | well, solved!!:) |
| 01:04.38 | SuperSox | mhall: hehehe... |
| 01:04.44 | lightbright | eeyore-: no, i been annoying people for 2 days with this! I only brought it up now to tell anyone to message me if they want help in doing this. thats it |
| 01:04.47 | BlackJudas | Is there a resource on the www that talks about the amd64 arch becoming part of the unstable tree? |
| 01:04.47 | gianluca_ | just a stupid flag of flashfxp... |
| 01:04.53 | lightbright | eeyore-: the end :) |
| 01:04.54 | SuperSox | mhall: Windows' USP - Broken by design? ;) |
| 01:05.00 | mhall | SuperSox: no kidding |
| 01:05.08 | eeyore- | lightbright: dump/restore is what i use to mirror drives around here |
| 01:05.11 | TheCount | kittenbot: hmm. might be worse. with head, only the part until the line is read. |
| 01:05.18 | nse | TheCount: If there were no lib.txt, could I do it with xargs < deborphan dpkg --purge ? |
| 01:05.18 | mhall | SuperSox: i mean i was VERY pissed at windows when i quit using it after windows server 2003 disservice pack 1 |
| 01:05.20 | TheCount | kittenbot: good to know nonetheless |
| 01:05.24 | SuperSox | mhall: the more I use Unix/Linux the more I realise how much better it was |
| 01:05.29 | mhall | SuperSox: but my issues then don't even come close to comparing to this |
| 01:05.31 | gianluca_ | "Site uses IP Masq/NAT/non routable IP" |
| 01:05.35 | TheCount | nse: deborphan | xargs dpkg --purge |
| 01:05.46 | lightbright | eeyore-: wshen you used tar, did it copy uour /dev? |
| 01:05.47 | gianluca_ | don't know exaclt what it is, but it worked, and that's enough for me :) |
| 01:05.58 | SuperSox | mhall: in microsofts credit, I really like Visual Studio .NET 2005 (2003 is quite nice too) |
| 01:05.58 | eeyore- | mhall: ooooh, windows 2003 server sp1 = *disaster* |
| 01:05.59 | TheCount | gianluca_: makes sense, thou |
| 01:06.03 | lightbright | eeyore-: when you say dump/restore, you mean tar? |
| 01:06.07 | punkass | kittenbot: thanks works great |
| 01:06.13 | eeyore- | lightbright: no! please "man dump" or "man restore" |
| 01:06.38 | lightbright | eeyore-: ok, np! but it works great with rsync, so I dont need another method anyway :) thanls anyway |
| 01:06.40 | nse | TheCount: where to read documentation to know the usage of those |'s and xargs's and <'s ? |
| 01:06.54 | TheCount | nse: man bash |
| 01:07.01 | TheCount | nse: man xargs |
| 01:07.08 | lightbright | eeyore-: besides. No manual entry for dump anyway |
| 01:07.37 | TheCount | nse: sections 'pipelines' and 'redirections' in man bash |
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| 01:07.44 | EchsO | hey |
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| 01:07.58 | lightbright | eeyore-: I dont have any such thing as "man dump" or "man restore" anyway. |
| 01:07.58 | EchsO | is it possible to do syntax highlighting for cat output? |
| 01:08.18 | TheCount | EchsO: short answer: yes. |
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| 01:08.31 | EchsO | TheCount whats the long answer? |
| 01:08.32 | eeyore- | lightbright: which is probably why you do it the hard way :-) |
| 01:08.47 | sander | hi.. anyone know why I get: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/net/tun: No such file or directory (errno=2).. from openvpn.. when starting it |
| 01:08.49 | mymayer | how to check wheater pam_chroot is installed ? |
| 01:08.54 | lightbright | eeyore-: its rather easy. One command and I walk away and come back 10mins later :) |
| 01:08.56 | sander | i've loaded the tun module |
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| 01:09.09 | eeyore- | lightbright: did you at least use the "-c" option for rsync? |
| 01:09.16 | humbolt | is the latest openoffice version already available for breezy? |
| 01:09.29 | Phated | #ubuntu? |
| 01:09.31 | lightbright | eeyore-: ill show you the command I used, hang on |
| 01:09.35 | TheCount | EchsO: well, depents. try code2html? |
| 01:09.41 | nse | TheCount: Yes it's kind of a connection a pipeline! |
| 01:09.43 | sanxiyn | !info openoffice.org |
| 01:09.54 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-2 (sid), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
| 01:09.56 | lightbright | eeyore-: rsync -ravlpogtDH --progress --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc / /mnt |
| 01:10.01 | sanxiyn | humbolt: It seems? |
| 01:10.05 | eeyore- | lightbright: no checksumming? |
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| 01:10.19 | nse | TheCount: like a compositon of functions... |
| 01:10.21 | lightbright | eeyore-: whats c - checksumming for? |
| 01:10.32 | TheCount | nse: NO! really? :) tell me about it! :)) |
| 01:10.40 | sander | i'm using the kernel: Linux Debian 2.6.12-1-686-smp |
| 01:11.06 | sander | seems like tun module is loaded.. but some way.. openvpn cant recognize it |
| 01:11.20 | lightbright | eeyore-: and Couldn't find package restore. so where does restore come from? |
| 01:11.28 | TheCount | sander: did you wave a dead chicken? |
| 01:11.44 | lightbright | eeyore-: you recommend I add "c" to the rsync command I showed you? |
| 01:11.55 | TheCount | lightbright: apt-get install dump |
| 01:11.56 | mymayer | hot to install pam_chroot ? |
| 01:12.06 | lightbright | TheCount: I did that, yes |
| 01:12.08 | TheCount | mymayer: RTFM! |
| 01:12.12 | sander | TheCount, hehe.. I guess so.. |
| 01:12.25 | mymayer | as its the easiest.. |
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| 01:12.47 | TheCount | mymayer: _I_ prefer you knowing what you're doing. |
| 01:12.54 | sander | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.02 | sander | even if i've loaded the tun module |
| 01:13.02 | lightbright | eeyore-: what does skip based on checksum, not mod-time & size mean exactly in layman terms? |
| 01:13.04 | mymayer | securing-debian-howto.pdf |
| 01:13.27 | TheCount | sander: and you're using devfs or udev? |
| 01:13.49 | sander | TheCount, I have no idea.. how can I check? |
| 01:14.04 | TheCount | sander: grep dev /proc/mounts |
| 01:14.16 | TheCount | lightbright: ls -ald /sbin/restore ... |
| 01:14.33 | mhall | sander: MAKEDEV |
| 01:14.46 | sander | devpts /dev/pts devpts ? |
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| 01:14.56 | TheCount | sander: use MAKEDEV. |
| 01:14.59 | EchsO | TheCount any other suggestions? |
| 01:15.08 | sander | where can I get MAKEDEV? |
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| 01:15.40 | TheCount | sander: /sbin/MAKDEV ? |
| 01:15.43 | TheCount | sander: /sbin/MAKEDEV ? |
| 01:15.55 | TheCount | sander: apt-get install makedev |
| 01:16.06 | TheCount | EchsO: yes, search for yourself? have a look at freshmeat? |
| 01:16.10 | lightbright | !makedev |
| 01:16.11 | dpkg | methinks makedev is fixed now |
| 01:16.17 | TheCount | EchsO: what exactly do you want to highlight? |
| 01:16.32 | sanxiyn | Oh, makedev is fixed now. How informative. |
| 01:16.52 | nse | TheCount: hum... can you help me to go directly to the 'redirections' section in bash's manual using man? |
| 01:16.59 | lightbright | sanxiyn: lol |
| 01:17.02 | TheCount | sander: mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200 ; chown root.root /dev/net/tun ; chmod 0770 /dev/net/tun ; # might do what you want as well |
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| 01:17.06 | stew | Seb: ping? |
| 01:17.06 | sander | I got makedef installed.. but cant find the package.. whereis and where says it dosnt exit |
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| 01:17.23 | lightbright | sander: what exactly you trying to do? |
| 01:17.26 | TheCount | nse: / for search, 'redir', return |
| 01:17.39 | sanxiyn | lightbright: Running OpenVPN, it seems. |
| 01:17.41 | TheCount | sander: makede_v_ |
| 01:17.50 | lightbright | sanxiyn: ah ok |
| 01:18.01 | lightbright | sanxiyn: ive never used makedev before |
| 01:18.08 | lightbright | never had a need |
| 01:18.28 | TheCount | .o( unix - where every time you hit your head on the keyboard, you get a different command! ) |
| 01:18.46 | nse | TheCount: ok. thanks |
| 01:18.51 | sander | TheCount, thanks.. that nknod thingie worked:) |
| 01:18.58 | sander | mk* |
| 01:19.01 | DylanRE | I'm new to Linux and need some help; does anybody here know anything about installing Debian on an iMac G5? |
| 01:19.11 | sanxiyn | sander: Good for you. |
| 01:19.32 | sanxiyn | (You can put "tun" to /etc/modules.) |
| 01:19.42 | sander | yep.. thats already done:) |
| 01:19.55 | TheCount | DylanRE: the guys on #debianppc might be able to help you better. got any specific questions? |
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| 01:20.28 | DylanRE | TheCount: I've got nothing real specific. Changing channels now. Thanks. |
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| 01:20.41 | TheCount | DylanRE: you're welcome |
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| 01:21.17 | sanxiyn | http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/index.php?p=129 is surely impressive. |
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| 01:21.48 | Seb | stew: sup |
| 01:21.58 | |meheren| | can someone please tell me how to get gnome on my debian that is currently command line only |
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| 01:22.20 | TheCount | .o( a sledgehammer? ) |
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| 01:22.23 | dvs | !install gnome |
| 01:22.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, install gnome is to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 01:22.31 | dondelelcaro | |meheren|: apt-get install gnome xwindow-system; |
| 01:22.40 | |meheren| | ok thx |
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| 01:25.33 | abrotman | x-window-system |
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| 01:26.18 | thc | doesn't gnome pull all the X packages as dependencies anyway |
| 01:26.25 | sanxiyn | thc: No. |
| 01:26.31 | abrotman | nope .. remote X |
| 01:26.35 | thc | ah. |
| 01:26.43 | sanxiyn | abrotman: This metapackage provides ... as well as a set of historically popular accessory programs. |
| 01:26.45 | sanxiyn | Hahahahahaha. |
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| 01:26.56 | sanxiyn | Historically popular. |
| 01:26.57 | abrotman | sanxiyn: huh ? |
| 01:27.16 | sanxiyn | (I think it refers to twm.) |
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| 01:29.15 | abrotman | !moo |
| 01:29.15 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:29.18 | TheCount | .o( xlogo ) |
| 01:29.30 | sanxiyn | Hm, according to python-dev, >11 year old CVS log message may contain control characters, when converted with cvs2svn, can cause XML parse error to SVN. |
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| 01:29.51 | sanxiyn | (Apparently, recent CVS rejects control characters in commit log.) |
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| 01:30.20 | zephar123 | hey does anyone know if theres a amd64 repositori for updates url i can put in? |
| 01:30.34 | abrotman | for updates ? |
| 01:30.36 | TheCount | zephar123: parse error ;) |
| 01:30.53 | zephar123 | actually need to update the nvidia drivers |
| 01:30.53 | TheCount | zephar123: do you have an ia32/i386 install, or an amd64 install? |
| 01:30.58 | zephar123 | amd64 |
| 01:30.59 | sanxiyn | zephar123: http://amd64.debian.net/ ? |
| 01:31.07 | zephar123 | ok cool ill try that thanx |
| 01:31.08 | abrotman | there are no amd64 binary drivers afaik |
| 01:31.12 | abrotman | ask #debian-amd64 |
| 01:31.12 | tnks | How do I get the GPG key for ftp.nerim.net? |
| 01:31.22 | TheCount | !marilla key |
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| 01:31.32 | franz | hi all, is it possible to manage groups (as in ldpadmin, audio,..) from a ldap server on the client machine? |
| 01:31.32 | TheCount | .o( close, but no cookie ) |
| 01:31.40 | TheCount | franz: yes. |
| 01:31.45 | dvs | !marillat key |
| 01:31.45 | dpkg | if you are using apt > 0.6 and it is complaining about a missing gpg key for marillat's repository, apt-get install debian-keyring && gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -, or ask me about <apt secure> |
| 01:32.03 | tnks | The_Vulture, thanks. |
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| 01:32.24 | zephar123 | shoudl i put sdi for the distribution? |
| 01:32.53 | franz | TheCount, I tried by creating groups on my ldap server and adding the users that I want to be part of that group but it seems that the client machine only checks for authentication. How do set it up to also check grou membership? |
| 01:32.53 | sanxiyn | gpg: key 1F41B907 Christian Marillat <marillat@debian.org> |
| 01:32.53 | TheCount | is it me, or is zephar123 talking gibberish? |
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| 01:33.06 | Seb | stew: you gone ? |
| 01:33.14 | abrotman | TheCount: you're the one that keeps doing the stupid bubbles :) |
| 01:33.22 | zephar123 | im trying to setup the synaptic package manager likre I have it set on my other computers |
| 01:33.27 | TheCount | franz: did you install just libpam-ldap, or libnss-ldap as well? did you configure /etc/nsswitch.conf ? |
| 01:33.43 | EchsO | TheCount have u ever tried gnu source-highlight ? |
| 01:33.48 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:33.48 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:33.49 | TheCount | .o( it's me ) |
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| 01:33.54 | TheCount | EchsO: nope |
| 01:34.00 | abrotman | TheCount: really .. can you stop that? :) |
| 01:34.21 | stew | Seb: are you the one that sent me a url about sending telnet passwords in a secure fashion? |
| 01:34.24 | TheCount | abrotman: give me a concise reason? :) |
| 01:34.38 | Seb | stew: shit no, I ain't got nuttin to do with telnet ;) |
| 01:34.40 | abrotman | TheCount: it makes you look like a moron ? |
| 01:34.41 | thc | because it's stupid? |
| 01:34.46 | sanxiyn | EchsO: source-highlight was rather unsatisfactory for me. |
| 01:34.46 | franz | TheCount, I installed libnss-ldap and modified /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 01:35.11 | TheCount | abrotman: maybe I am a moron? :O) |
| 01:35.25 | TheCount | franz: okaaaay? |
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| 01:36.06 | dvs | TheCount: no comment. ;-) |
| 01:36.09 | sanxiyn | EchsO: SilverCity and Geshi is decent for highlighting sources on the web. |
| 01:36.13 | franz | TheCount, well I would like it to be ok.... ;-) but it seems that It's not working :-( |
| 01:36.47 | TheCount | franz: got nscd running? checked what ltrace/strace sayd when you try 'id' or 'ls'? |
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| 01:36.55 | thc | i'm leaving work early, because of my alcohol addiction. i have the shakes. bye. |
| 01:37.16 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 01:37.48 | TheCount | .o( not funny. hm. ) |
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| 01:38.40 | abrotman | TheCount: really . you look stupid |
| 01:39.23 | sanxiyn | stupidity . bad . not . please . lol |
| 01:39.23 | TheCount | abrotman: because I'm thinking loud? |
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| 01:40.03 | abrotman | because it's dumb .. just type it .. don't use the damn bubble |
| 01:40.17 | nse | Hello everybody! My sound just don't work. I did a BIG dist-upgrade and removed all the .deb's from deborphan's output. The point is that no sound come out, all volume are ok. and xmmx complains that it can't open the audio, reason: 1-your soundcard is configured properly 2-You have the correct output selected (OSS) 3-No other program is blocking the soundcard (!!!!!????) Could somebody help me, please? |
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| 01:40.33 | TheCount | abrotman: freedom of speech / expression applies here as well, does it? :) |
| 01:40.38 | abrotman | no |
| 01:40.59 | TheCount | abrotman: oh - please elaborate? ;) |
| 01:41.02 | abrotman | if that were the case .. there wouldn't be channel ops |
| 01:41.40 | TheCount | abrotman: ah, well. where exactly am I outside channel rules? ;) |
| 01:41.43 | sanxiyn | TheCount: (most) Debian mailing lists are not moderated. This channel is (in theory) moderated. |
| 01:41.57 | magyar | is there a way to start x11vnc on port 5901 oppose to 5900? |
| 01:41.58 | abrotman | TheCount: you're not .. you just look silly |
| 01:42.12 | abrotman | magyar: surely it's in the conf file ? |
| 01:42.14 | TheCount | abrotman: thats my birthright, isn't it? ;) |
| 01:42.22 | deus | Im trying to install debian, i have a 6 month old installation CD, it dosent seem that i have the right modules to run the scsi controller, i tried modprobe aic7xxx but it dosent seem that module is avalible, i tried to load it using the ash shell that comes with the installation. |
| 01:42.24 | dondelelcaro | the lists can be moderated too if people abuse them; they're resources, if you abuse them, you can be removed. |
| 01:42.27 | dvsdude | nse: whats your sound card are u using alsa |
| 01:42.28 | TheCount | magyar: make it use :11 instead of :10 |
| 01:42.36 | deus | So i cant use the hardrive |
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| 01:42.37 | abrotman | TheCount: to be stupid .. yes .. but your parents would be disappointed :) |
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| 01:42.44 | sanxiyn | dondelelcaro: But currently they aren't. |
| 01:42.48 | dondelelcaro | deus: which installer cd are you using? |
| 01:42.55 | TheCount | abrotman: half of my parents are dead ;) |
| 01:42.55 | franz | TheCount, thanks for your help it's working now! |
| 01:42.57 | deus | dondelelcaro: woody |
| 01:43.02 | TheCount | franz: great :) |
| 01:43.02 | abrotman | TheCount: don't i wish :) |
| 01:43.03 | EchsO | TheCount u should try source-highlight :) |
| 01:43.04 | dondelelcaro | deus: don't; use the sarge netinst CD. |
| 01:43.12 | dondelelcaro | sanxiyn: unless you're wearing a listmaster hat, and speaking about a specific list, it's hard to say. |
| 01:43.13 | TheCount | EchsO: okay :) |
| 01:43.14 | magyar | TheCount, thx |
| 01:43.21 | abrotman | the woody will work if you use the vanilla image |
| 01:43.22 | deus | dondelelcaro: hmm... |
| 01:43.26 | deus | ok, well |
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| 01:43.34 | deus | ehm, i dont have a spare cd i can use |
| 01:43.37 | dondelelcaro | yeah, but it's far easier to use sarge |
| 01:43.39 | bop1 | is there msn messanger for linux that supports file transfers and all? |
| 01:43.49 | dondelelcaro | deus: you can use floppies, or usb sticks, or anything else that your machine can boot. |
| 01:43.50 | sanxiyn | dondelelcaro: Surely, lists can be *secretly* moderated... :( |
| 01:44.09 | soapee01 | has anyone here messed with vmplayer? I'd like to know where it's getting some partition info (installing win2k currently). I don't want to accidentily wipe Debian, and I'm not seeing what it does with cfdisk. Ideas? |
| 01:44.18 | deus | ok...now, do i still have a floppy somewhere? |
| 01:44.21 | sanxiyn | I was just referring to "This list is not moderated, posting is allowed to anyone." from http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/ |
| 01:44.32 | nse | dvs: I'm not sure. Sound was working just fine before the upgrade. How to know my soundcard? |
| 01:44.33 | abrotman | he could try vanilla |
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| 01:44.52 | dvs | nse: Huh? I think you have the wrong person |
| 01:44.58 | error403 | I have a bit of a problem with font size in gnome... i.e. even though my DPI is 75, the fonts are still as if i was using 100dpi... Has anybody else had this problem? |
| 01:45.09 | dvs | deus: You need a couple of floppies. |
| 01:45.24 | nse | dvs: sorry. |
| 01:45.34 | nse | dvsdude: I'm not sure. Sound was working just fine before the upgrade. How to know my soundcard? |
| 01:45.44 | dvs | nse: Use "lspci | grep audio" to find out though |
| 01:45.48 | deus | damn, so invoncenient |
| 01:45.56 | abrotman | use vanilla |
| 01:45.57 | dondelelcaro | sanxiyn: right; it's open for posting, so long as you don't abuse it. |
| 01:45.57 | deus | inconvenient. |
| 01:46.11 | nse | dvs: thanks! |
| 01:46.16 | TheCount | abrotman: anyway, I like to look stupid. underpromise, overdeliver. |
| 01:46.19 | deus | hmm |
| 01:46.28 | deus | found another cd im gonna try |
| 01:46.30 | TheCount | deus: burn a recent CD? ;) |
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| 01:46.37 | TheCount | deus: try 'linux26' while booting? ;) |
| 01:46.41 | soapee01 | sorry.. .ignore my question. didn't realize there was a vmware channel. |
| 01:46.42 | magyar | TheCount, it craps out with :11, i only can use :0 or :1, but i have two machines behunf a firewall one on port 5900 already |
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| 01:46.55 | deus | whats that? |
| 01:47.01 | deus | while booting? |
| 01:47.16 | nse | dvsdude: soundcard is Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 01:47.27 | sanxiyn | How true is Michael Meeks' claim that "OOo is slow because of Kernel" (I'm greatly simplifying)? |
| 01:47.27 | TheCount | EchsO: ok, looks nice |
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| 01:47.36 | dondelelcaro | sanxiyn: claim where? |
| 01:47.37 | TheCount | magyar: use :1 |
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| 01:47.49 | TheCount | deus: when isolinux asks for parameters |
| 01:47.55 | dondelelcaro | OOo is slow because it's a bloated PoS; the kernel may be exacerbating the problem... |
| 01:48.13 | |meheren| | on debain i typed apt-get install gnome i went through all the procediers and now it says rebuilding the database this may take some time it has said that for over 10 minuets now is everything all right? |
| 01:48.18 | abrotman | yeah .. OO.o uses 300MB ram .. kenrel uses 25MB :) |
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| 01:48.38 | |meheren| | :-D |
| 01:48.40 | nse | dvs: Can you help me? The other guy seems to be away. This is happening: Gaspar:/home/leo/Music# play "U2 - Beatiful Day.mp3" playing U2 - Beatiful Day.mp3 sox: Unable to reset OSS driver. Possibly accessing an invalid file/device |
| 01:48.41 | gentgeen__ | does anyone know of an 'e-mail merge' option for Linux (Like MS word/outlook comboed mail merge) |
| 01:49.06 | |meheren| | try thunderbird |
| 01:49.06 | dondelelcaro | gentgeen__: almost anything can fill out forms and mail them out. |
| 01:49.07 | sanxiyn | dondelelcaro: http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=102 |
| 01:49.08 | dvsdude | nse: install alsa-base and alsa-utils then run alsaconf |
| 01:49.18 | |meheren| | use thunderbird it is the best |
| 01:49.19 | magyar | TheCount, also dies, it only works on :0 but then it conflicts with another system on port 5900 |
| 01:49.23 | dvs | nse: I know nothing about sox. |
| 01:49.34 | TheCount | magyar: why does it die? read logs! |
| 01:49.36 | sanxiyn | (I'm suspecting interview is somehow truncated or wrongly summarized. Michael Meeks posts useless things to his blog, but he actually knows what he is working on, I think.) |
| 01:49.55 | magyar | 04/11/2005 20:50:03 *** XOpenDisplay failed (:1) |
| 01:50.07 | TheCount | sanxiyn: perhaps he's drunk *grin* |
| 01:50.26 | dvsdude | nse, apt-get install alsa-source alsa-base alsa-utils libasound2 |
| 01:50.27 | sanxiyn | Well, but this is directly from his blog: |
| 01:50.29 | nse | dvsdude: did you get the msg I gave to dvs? look above. still the same? |
| 01:50.30 | sanxiyn | "So - basically we're back to the old axiom for anyone comparing Linux with Win32 I/O performance: Linux I/O scheduling sucks - try to work around it." -- Michael Meeks |
| 01:50.32 | TheCount | magyar: little bit short, this message? |
| 01:50.39 | gentgeen__ | TheCount, Im a teacher... Not a spammer -- I need to send out to my students Dear <STUDENT> this is your $username and your $password for 58 students |
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| 01:50.49 | dondelelcaro | sanxiyn: right, it's the "whine whine whine; kernel doesn't anticipate what the application wants to use; whine whine wine" |
| 01:50.54 | gentgeen__ | Don't want to write 58 seperate emails |
| 01:51.02 | sanxiyn | dondelelcaro: And comparison to Windows. Isn't it fun? |
| 01:51.08 | TheCount | sanxiyn: I'm wonder what kernel he uses, and he might just be right about latencies, preemptivenees, jiffies length, etc .. |
| 01:51.22 | nse | dvsdude: are you sure isn't OSS what i need? |
| 01:51.54 | TheCount | nse: OSS is outdated, period. alsa has an OSS compatibility layer. |
| 01:52.14 | sanxiyn | TheCount: OSS is considered outdated on Linux. Well, this is linux channel... |
| 01:52.25 | dvsdude | nse: ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) is newer |
| 01:52.33 | dvs | nse: and supported |
| 01:52.39 | sanxiyn | (If you're on (say) FreeBSD, it's completely different story.) |
| 01:52.47 | sanxiyn | (No ALSA there, of course.) |
| 01:52.51 | dondelelcaro | gentgeen__: it's basically a five line shell script; cat - <<END |mailx $EMAIL; Dear $STUDENT you have username $USER pass $PASS\nEND; or similar. |
| 01:52.59 | TheCount | sanxiyn: I won't be talking about FreeBSD anytime again soon |
| 01:53.17 | Guerin | i find that 99% of audio lag is caused by arts |
| 01:53.18 | dvs | AFSA? |
| 01:53.20 | nse | TheCount, dvsdude, dvs: wow... thanks. |
| 01:53.30 | dvsdude | nse, np |
| 01:53.37 | TheCount | Guerin: well, don't use it? |
| 01:53.46 | dondelelcaro | (or a three line perl script...) |
| 01:53.57 | Guerin | TheCount: that's certainly my approach. |
| 01:54.13 | gentgeen__ | dondelelcaro, thanks, I will play with that idea |
| 01:54.22 | |meheren| | i installed gnome and rebooted now how do i boot ino gnome or open it or whatever? |
| 01:54.27 | |meheren| | how do i use it? |
| 01:54.30 | gentgeen__ | think my little scripting skills can handle that |
| 01:54.33 | magyar | TheCount, it works on :0 and for some odd reason it opens on port 5901 by it self. Does it scan the LAN to see if there is any other 590X port listening before it starts? |
| 01:54.33 | TheCount | |meheren|: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 01:54.44 | |meheren| | thx |
| 01:54.51 | dvs | |meheren|: or startx |
| 01:54.52 | TheCount | magyar: it will only check the local machine, I guess. dunno. |
| 01:55.04 | dvsdude | |meheren|, you need windows manager gdm |
| 01:55.19 | |meheren| | ? |
| 01:55.32 | dvsdude | !gdm |
| 01:55.33 | dpkg | gdm is, like, the Gnome Display Manager. A gnome based display manager based on xdm, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind.. see gdm fix, or uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession, or kicks ass!, or (a word that You can confuse with "gpm", gpm is that thingy to have mouse cursor in text console) |
| 01:55.48 | |meheren| | i typed apt-get install gnome |
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| 01:55.59 | |meheren| | so i got all the packages that came with that |
| 01:56.01 | dvsdude | |meheren|, apt-get install gdm |
| 01:56.09 | TheCount | |meheren|: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 01:56.14 | |meheren| | ok |
| 01:56.16 | |meheren| | thx |
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| 01:56.41 | TheCount | I'll go catch some sleep. |
| 01:56.57 | nse | dvsdude: Will alsaconf set audio apps to work with ALSA? |
| 01:57.13 | TheCount | nse: it will set up your audio system to work, so: yes. |
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| 01:57.21 | dvsdude | what he said |
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| 01:57.53 | dvsdude | use alsamixer to adjust volume then alsactrl store to save |
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| 01:58.17 | TheCount | night |
| 01:58.20 | apa | can anyone help me? i am running centericq and i can connect to icq but not msn why= |
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| 01:58.25 | apa | i have a firewall |
| 01:58.33 | apa | are there any ports i need to poen? |
| 01:58.37 | deadcat | must be msn |
| 01:58.37 | Guerin | apa: use bitlbee |
| 01:58.38 | dvsdude | apa no |
| 01:58.48 | dvsdude | apa: gaim |
| 01:58.50 | nse | TheCount, dvsdude: Ok, thanks. |
| 01:58.51 | Guerin | apa: connect your irc client to im.bitlbee.org |
| 01:59.06 | Guerin | dvsdude: gaim harldy fills the same niche as centericq |
| 01:59.45 | dvsdude | Guerin, ok thanks i'll have to have a look at centericq |
| 01:59.51 | nse | Hum... how to put the content of the clipboard into a file? |
| 01:59.59 | apa | i am using centericq |
| 02:00.04 | apa | what should i doo |
| 02:00.09 | Guerin | dvsdude: "My mini cooper is in the shop, what car should I use as a loaner?" "Oh, we have a mazda miata, but I think you might prefer this dodge SUV instead." |
| 02:00.47 | Guerin | apa: i already gave you one option. If you must use centericq, I can't help you. |
| 02:01.46 | dvsdude | Guerin, ok point taken |
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| 02:03.02 | |XO2| | you guys gotta try source-highlight its like cat with syntax highlighting :) |
| 02:03.06 | apa | does msn need a special port open? |
| 02:03.10 | apa | to work that is |
| 02:03.37 | |XO2| | yea port 37337 |
| 02:03.45 | |XO2| | ohh wait thats wrong |
| 02:03.50 | apa | huh? |
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| 02:04.10 | ganymed | hallo |
| 02:04.11 | abrotman | google for it .. i think it's 5222 |
| 02:04.17 | ganymed | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.20 | ganymed | ? |
| 02:04.30 | |XO2| | ganymed this isn't #apache |
| 02:04.38 | nse | Sound is working fine!! aha! |
| 02:04.40 | Guerin | apa: whatever the msn port is, probably. The advantage of using bitlbee is that you doon't need any inbound ports open, and only one outbound. |
| 02:04.53 | |XO2| | ganymed but you put followsymlinks in options |
| 02:04.54 | Guerin | ganymed: reaqd the apache documentation |
| 02:05.13 | stew | ganymed: add "Options FollowSymLinks" to a <Directory /foo> stanza |
| 02:05.13 | ganymed | well, but this IS debian. and the debian configuration of apache is quite different... |
| 02:05.28 | Guerin | ganymed: it's not really |
| 02:05.33 | abrotman | it's still apache2 .. the same directives work |
| 02:05.34 | Guerin | ganymed: all the directives are the same |
| 02:05.37 | ganymed | this is what i have done... i am not a noob... |
| 02:05.39 | |XO2| | stew dont spoon feed him :) |
| 02:05.52 | ambrose | I'm trying to install kernel-image-2.6-686 but it fails because /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs can't be found... and apt-file search doesn't find it. How to fix? |
| 02:06.00 | ganymed | there is my problem, it doesn't take effect |
| 02:06.00 | Guerin | putting an unqualified FollowSymlinks is very unwise, though |
| 02:06.10 | Guerin | ganymed: then you did it wrong |
| 02:06.18 | apa | how was it you opend a static port with iptables |
| 02:06.21 | apa | a port staticlly |
| 02:06.23 | apa | what ever :) |
| 02:06.33 | Guerin | apa: #iptables |
| 02:06.40 | apa | :D |
| 02:06.42 | ganymed | i insterted it in default in site-available but nothing changes... the links are not even shown... |
| 02:07.02 | |meheren| | can u use gnome with a server even if it is a bad idea? |
| 02:07.22 | apa | no one there |
| 02:07.26 | dondelelcaro | |meheren|: yes, but you're better off not using it. |
| 02:07.35 | dondelelcaro | apa: there are 69 people there... |
| 02:07.48 | ganymed | by the way: why is the first reaction in this channel always a rejection? is this due to me... |
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| 02:08.12 | |meheren| | i have had the same experiances try #ubuntu |
| 02:08.19 | |meheren| | they are very helpfull there |
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| 02:08.51 | dvsdude | apa, http://centericq.de/docs/readme.php?mode=2#4.6 |
| 02:08.54 | ganymed | i know, i have to say, better than here... but they are... sleepy (at least in kubuntu) |
| 02:09.08 | thingfish | oh yeah, sure, that's why all the #ubuntu-ites end up in here asking for help. |
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| 02:09.12 | |meheren| | dondelelcaro:do u no why there are security issues with using gnome with a server? |
| 02:09.36 | dondelelcaro | |meheren|: it's you, and know; and no, there aren't security issues beyond those that come with running more things on a server than you don't really need. |
| 02:09.49 | |meheren| | oh |
| 02:09.54 | dondelelcaro | |meheren|: there's really just no reason to have gnome on a server. If you don't need something on a server, it shouldn't be installed. |
| 02:10.03 | |meheren| | yeh |
| 02:10.05 | ganymed | well, i don't wanna waste anybody's time... i just would like to have another welcome... i mean, the first thing i say, is hallo... |
| 02:10.05 | thingfish | when will people learn that debian is better gnu/linux than ubuntu. bleeding edge is for bug-chasers. |
| 02:10.20 | |meheren| | hellow? |
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| 02:10.22 | |meheren| | u mean |
| 02:10.24 | mymayer | how can i find the package "jailkit" for dibian sarge stable. The package itself isnt stable |
| 02:10.25 | thingfish | hi ganymed, sorry you got a bad reception. |
| 02:10.51 | |meheren| | some people here r nice others.... |
| 02:10.54 | bolrod | debian may be better.. but it dus run behind on packages .... |
| 02:11.01 | bolrod | especially stable versions |
| 02:11.07 | thingfish | well that's true wherever you go, |meheren|. |
| 02:11.10 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: that package isn't even in Debian, AFAIK... so you'll have to find someone who has packaged it and backported it. |
| 02:11.32 | dondelelcaro | you can have any one: 1) new packages 2) stable packages. They're diametrically opposed. |
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| 02:11.43 | thingfish | bolrod: yes, but then what you get, works. with bleeding-edge distros, this is commonly not the case. |
| 02:11.50 | ganymed | i know that there are some rules noobs shuld know before coming here... i have made "noobish" mistakes in here myself.... but anyway this is supposed to be a help channel |
| 02:11.52 | ipixnic | mymayer try http://packages.debian.org ? |
| 02:11.56 | ipixnic | oops |
| 02:11.59 | ipixnic | minus ? |
| 02:12.02 | ipixnic | i hate those |
| 02:12.06 | thingfish | yes! dondelelcaro - succinctly put. |
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| 02:12.33 | HarryL | something tried to fry my power supply - fan stopped and got real hot during upgrade rebooted and fan started running again any ideas? |
| 02:12.38 | thingfish | I put up with fedora 1-3, until I finally said Enough! give me something that works! |
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| 02:12.51 | abrotman | thingfish: so you went to mandriva ? |
| 02:13.10 | thingfish | oh abrotman, and I so wanted to like you... |
| 02:13.15 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: we provide help here; we just can't cover every single topic under the sun. When there's a better channel to get help in, we'll send you there first. |
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| 02:13.37 | ganymed | my first line in <directory> is: Options ExecCGI +FollowSymLinks Includes IncludesNOEXEC Indexes <-- is there anything wrong with this config option in 'default' |
| 02:13.49 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: that's not a valid <Directory> entry |
| 02:14.01 | ganymed | as i said, i have no prob with that... |
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| 02:14.11 | HarryL | ps got so hot it kicked me off internet while upgrading and crashed X |
| 02:14.15 | ganymed | whats wrong, i did it with webmin actually... |
| 02:14.19 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: and more importantly, the FollowSymLinks needs to point at a directory that is in a accessable directory. |
| 02:14.25 | abrotman | thingfish: yuengling ? |
| 02:14.25 | nse | Hum... how to put the content of the clipboard into a file? |
| 02:14.28 | dondelelcaro | UGH. |
| 02:14.44 | dondelelcaro | nse: use xclipboard iirc. |
| 02:15.04 | thingfish | abrotman: sure, why not. |
| 02:15.07 | ganymed | but why does webmin insert such stuff - it was in httpd.conf originally... and just copied it into 'default' |
| 02:15.10 | ipixnic | Error: Can't open display: |
| 02:15.15 | HarryL | is it something whit power management? |
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| 02:15.32 | thingfish | abrotman: I mean, either beer/ale or bourbon, in the fall/winter. |
| 02:15.33 | Tortel | Is there a mplayer plugin for firefox beta 2? |
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| 02:15.57 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: webmin is insane; it mangles configuration files and does things that it shouldn't do. Give us the entire httpd.conf and the ls -l output for 1) the directory that you're trying to link 2) the directory that the file your linking to is in. |
| 02:16.04 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: use the paster bot to do this. |
| 02:16.17 | dondelelcaro | HarryL: what type of powersupply are we talking about here? |
| 02:16.33 | dondelelcaro | most standard ATA power supplies manage their own fan speeds |
| 02:16.37 | thingfish | or of course scotch, if you can afford good scotch (otherwise don't bother). |
| 02:16.43 | HarryL | for piii box came with case bought off ebay about 4 years ago |
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| 02:17.06 | HarryL | 300W |
| 02:17.16 | dondelelcaro | HarryL: uh... your powersupply may be on crack. Clean its fan out. |
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| 02:17.31 | HarryL | take it out and open it? |
| 02:17.49 | dondelelcaro | just hold the fan in place and blow it out. |
| 02:17.59 | HarryL | I blew it out with 2hp air compressor about 6 month ago |
| 02:18.14 | ganymed | well, i think i'll use the #flood channel... i am not sure about the paster bot |
| 02:18.16 | thingfish | I clean my heatsink/fan about 4 times/year. |
| 02:18.21 | dondelelcaro | !tell ganymed -about paster |
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| 02:18.53 | HarryL | ok Ill blast it again |
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| 02:19.37 | dondelelcaro | the critical thing is to hold the fan; if you didn't do that, you may have killed off the bearings. |
| 02:19.47 | HarryL | BTW I am very impressed that upgrade worked while PS was crapping |
| 02:20.10 | HarryL | picked right up and finished |
| 02:20.32 | HarryL | ow bearings |
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| 02:21.05 | HarryL | the fan is inside a metal box, guess stick a pencil to stop it? |
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| 02:21.48 | dondelelcaro | sure |
| 02:21.48 | ganymed | well, the doc root is /var/www. my httpd.conf is merely empty, so i'll paste the 'default' server file |
| 02:22.28 | aredhel | HarryL, pencils are bad, the graphite makes shorts. |
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| 02:22.38 | HarryL | damage might have been done though as you say |
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| 02:24.37 | ubuntudude | kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 02:24.37 | HarryL | funny you can hear when it has stopped of course but as it gets hot system starts elctron noise |
| 02:24.38 | m0se5 | I'm trying to install kdevelop3 using apt but it won't. There's an unfixable dependencies conflict when I really try. Package kdevelop3 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. |
| 02:24.41 | ubuntudude | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?version=testing&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=main&case=insensitive&keywords=kernel-image-2.6.8&searchon=names |
| 02:24.48 | ubuntudude | why the fuck I dont see 2.6.8-i386 there?! |
| 02:24.58 | ganymed | ok. the url is: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1029 |
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| 02:25.12 | ubuntudude | only kernel-image-2.6.8-2-itanium and other exotic architectures, and no plain i386? |
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| 02:25.40 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: because it's been removed from testing; you realize that we change package versions in testing all the time, right? |
| 02:25.48 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: search for linux-image |
| 02:25.48 | Ae|-_GoD | I do this (modprobe snd-emu10k1;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss) each time I want to load my soundcard |
| 02:25.49 | ubuntudude | damn |
| 02:26.05 | thingfish | 'cause it's sure in sarge |
| 02:26.06 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: is linux-image all I need to reanimate a system that lost /boot? |
| 02:26.06 | Ae|-_GoD | when I do a reboot in my box, the settings are out |
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| 02:26.16 | dondelelcaro | Ae|-_GoD: that's insane; use mdoconf to load those modules. |
| 02:26.21 | ubuntudude | that is - linux-image have vmlinuz as well as modules.dep and other /lib/ needed? |
| 02:26.27 | Ae|-_GoD | dondelelcaro, thanks |
| 02:26.27 | m0se5 | Ae|-_GoD: try using aslaconf |
| 02:26.29 | mangux_ | aeddan, put them on /etc/modules |
| 02:26.31 | dondelelcaro | Ae|-_GoD: it will write out the appropriate bits to /etc/modules |
| 02:26.33 | mangux_ | sorry |
| 02:26.37 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: yes. |
| 02:26.41 | mangux_ | Ae|-_GoD, :) |
| 02:26.41 | beniamino | i can get my wireless card working from the cmd line using iwconfig...; ifup eth0. can someone point me to how to get rc.d to do this for me automagically? |
| 02:26.50 | ubuntudude | neat |
| 02:26.52 | Ae|-_GoD | mangux_, :-) |
| 02:26.53 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: you'll also need to install your bootloader, and whatever else you're using in /boot |
| 02:27.01 | dondelelcaro | s/mdoconf/modconf/ |
| 02:27.07 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: I fix that |
| 02:27.21 | Ae|-_GoD | dondelelcaro, instead of modprobe, modconf? |
| 02:27.22 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: but I dont have a working (bootable) debian, so I must hand-install entire kernel packge |
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| 02:27.42 | ubuntudude | unpacking from linux-image .deb into /boot (vmlinuz) and /lib/modules will be enought? |
| 02:27.42 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: no, you don't need to do that. |
| 02:27.43 | m0se5 | Ae|-_GoD: try using aslaconf |
| 02:27.53 | Ae|-_GoD | m0se5, I tried, think so, wait |
| 02:27.55 | ubuntudude | I dont need to do what? |
| 02:28.06 | m0se5 | I'm trying to install kdevelop3 using apt but it won't. There's an unfixable dependencies conflict when I really try. Package kdevelop3 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. |
| 02:28.20 | ubuntudude | the /lib/ firectory survived, but modules there do not match the kernel Im going to hand reinstall from .deb |
| 02:28.21 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: boot off of something; then mount your root; then chroot placeyoumountedroot; apt-get install linux-image-...; run grub_install (or whatever)... and away you go. |
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| 02:28.29 | abrotman | m0se5: in etch/testing ? |
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| 02:28.39 | m0se5 | abrotman: yup |
| 02:28.47 | abrotman | m0se5: known issue |
| 02:28.52 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: well my damaged linux is debian32, and my working linux is ubuntu64 (64!) will it work? |
| 02:28.53 | abrotman | !why is kdevelop3 not in testing |
| 02:28.54 | dpkg | kdevelop3 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=kdevelop3 |
| 02:29.03 | m0se5 | abrotman: thanks. there's a few but that one I want. |
| 02:29.12 | ubuntudude | !why is god not in testing |
| 02:29.13 | dpkg | god is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=god |
| 02:29.27 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: presumably, because you'll be using the tools that are actually on your debian install. |
| 02:29.35 | ubuntudude | well I hope so |
| 02:30.04 | dondelelcaro | it would definetly work if it was any other 32bit kernel, though. |
| 02:30.06 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: btw, how to force unstable debian to install PREVIOUS version of udev+hotplug? that versions of udev that do not conflict with hotplug |
| 02:30.25 | ubuntudude | because the newest udev (that removed hotplug) totally fucked up my system (mouse, network, audio, USB - do not work) |
| 02:30.45 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: man apt-get; and read about the '=' option (or use aptitude to do the same); if you no longer have it, use snapshot.debian.net |
| 02:30.58 | ubuntudude | I prefer snapshots |
| 02:31.12 | dondelelcaro | ? |
| 02:31.13 | ganymed | any ideas about my apache2 problem? |
| 02:31.21 | ubuntudude | (well actually I prefer other *shots, but Im seeing my gf tommorow, so back to work) |
| 02:32.20 | Ae|-_GoD | m0se5, via alsamixer how can I save this settings? |
| 02:32.28 | Ae|-_GoD | these* |
| 02:32.50 | ubuntudude | hey, my 512mb mp3 player works greate with ubuntu, now that rox \o/ |
| 02:32.56 | Guerin | Ae|-_GoD: should do so automatically |
| 02:33.09 | Guerin | ubuntudude: if it's UMS it should work with anything |
| 02:33.26 | dvsdude | Ae|-_GoD, alsactrl store |
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| 02:33.52 | m0se5 | abrotman: I have a bunch of packages in synaptic that have no debian swirl by it. All of these say the package is not available but I can go to the server and get them and dpkg -i them manually. |
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| 02:34.21 | m0se5 | Ae|-_GoD: not using X11? |
| 02:34.22 | abrotman | m0se5: i don't use synaptic .. |
| 02:34.52 | Ae|-_GoD | m0se5, X11 here |
| 02:35.09 | m0se5 | abrotman: it does the same thing using apt-get |
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| 02:35.18 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: that needs to be more like http://channels.debian.net/paste/1030 |
| 02:35.24 | m0se5 | Ae|-_GoD: use kmix |
| 02:35.30 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: and Ubuntu is OT here; they're in #ubuntu. |
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| 02:35.59 | HarryL | why does dmesg | less show that DMA only 33 Mhz and processor 731 not 733? |
| 02:36.06 | dondelelcaro | m0se5: then they aren't listed in the Packages; file that you're downloading. |
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| 02:36.32 | abrotman | m0se5: maybe they dont' have the GPG key ? |
| 02:37.03 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: ok then. I chrooted into the debian32 |
| 02:37.21 | m0se5 | abrotman: apt-get install vlc ... Package vlc is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. ... I can go to the same server and download it. |
| 02:37.49 | abrotman | m0se5: you're run apt-get update ? |
| 02:37.59 | HarryL | where did the 2 Mhz go for PIII? front side bus speed is 100 not 33 |
| 02:38.06 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: I do have hotplug_0.0.20040329-25_all.deb udev_0.070-5_i386.deb now I should dpkg -i them? |
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| 02:38.13 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: you can if you want. |
| 02:38.18 | m0se5 | abrotman: yup and changed servers a few time. same all around. |
| 02:38.30 | ubuntudude | dondelelcaro: well, with never udev (and no hotplug) nothing works |
| 02:39.06 | abrotman | !info vlc etch |
| 02:39.17 | Guerin | things work fine with no udev |
| 02:39.27 | ubuntudude | Guerin: and no hotplug? |
| 02:39.49 | Guerin | ubuntudude: hotplug is also pretty much optional if you have the faintest clue what hardware is on your machine |
| 02:39.51 | ubuntudude | Guerin: so why I dont have moust(!), audio, USB, and probably SATA since upgrading udev (+removing hotplug) |
| 02:39.55 | nse | Hello everybody, how to know in which directories a certain .deb extracted files to? |
| 02:40.00 | ubuntudude | *mouse |
| 02:40.01 | abrotman | dpkg-L |
| 02:40.04 | dondelelcaro | nse: dpkg-deb -c foo.deb |
| 02:40.04 | abrotman | err dpkg -L |
| 02:40.15 | ubuntudude | nse: use Synaptic in example and there is that information |
| 02:40.16 | dondelelcaro | (or dpkg -L if you already installed it) |
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| 02:40.43 | ganymed | dondelelcaro: thx, i have tried it, but after restarting the server it's still the same... the symlinks simply do not appear in the directory |
| 02:40.58 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: wait, you mean you can't see them in the directory that you're looking at? |
| 02:41.05 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: or that they can't be accessed? |
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| 02:41.16 | abrotman | m0se5: that package isn't in etch currently |
| 02:41.25 | dondelelcaro | !+info vlc |
| 02:41.31 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3 (sid), Packaged size: 7405 kB, Installed size: 17944 kB |
| 02:41.39 | dondelelcaro | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 02:41.40 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 02:41.41 | m0se5 | abrotman: ok, I have stable in my sources.list too. |
| 02:41.55 | abrotman | m0se5: that might be a reason |
| 02:41.57 | ubuntudude | hotplug (version 0.0.20040329-25) conflicts with udev_0.070-5_i386.deb, so with version of udev and hotplug should I install? |
| 02:41.58 | nse | dondelelcaro, ubuntudude: Thanks. |
| 02:42.10 | Guerin | ubuntudude: just remove udev |
| 02:42.11 | stew | ubuntudude: you should pick one of the two |
| 02:42.16 | m0se5 | abrotman: why? |
| 02:42.23 | ubuntudude | well picking udev fucked up my system |
| 02:42.28 | ubuntudude | is hotplug better? |
| 02:42.31 | abrotman | m0se5: there is no vlc in etch currently |
| 02:42.41 | abrotman | m0se5: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=vlc |
| 02:42.43 | ubuntudude | how to remove udev? |
| 02:42.44 | Guerin | ubuntudude: they do different things |
| 02:42.50 | dondelelcaro | vlc was probably removed because it had RC bugs that weren't getting fixed. |
| 02:42.52 | Guerin | ubuntudude: apt-get remove --purge udev |
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| 02:42.59 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: licensing? |
| 02:43.01 | ubuntudude | well, without one of them, dont I miss part of their functionality? |
| 02:43.12 | Guerin | ubuntudude: obviously. But you |
| 02:43.17 | Guerin | 're missing a lot more than that now |
| 02:43.19 | m0se5 | abrotman: oh... I got that. I thought you were saying something about me having stable and testing in my sources.list |
| 02:43.33 | ubuntudude | well, before when I had both hotplug and udev everything was fine |
| 02:43.47 | ubuntudude | why the new versions must conflict with eachother? |
| 02:43.56 | Guerin | ubuntudude: ask the maintainers. |
| 02:44.06 | ubuntudude | what about soft that needs udev, or with needs hotplug? |
| 02:44.09 | Guerin | ubuntudude: you ARE using unstable; you should be able to deal with this. |
| 02:44.15 | ubuntudude | like rootplug afair |
| 02:44.24 | enveezee | I can only find one sock and I got two feet! |
| 02:44.38 | ubuntudude | enveezee: cp |
| 02:44.39 | abrotman | enveezee: solution .. cut one off |
| 02:44.46 | ganymed | dondelelcaro: i enter localhost and i can only see phpmyadmin and the apache default directory... thats all. when i try to access it directly it gives me 'permission denied'. |
| 02:44.59 | ubuntudude | unstable sucks |
| 02:45.00 | enveezee | heh |
| 02:45.04 | Guerin | ubuntudude: yes. |
| 02:45.09 | m0se5 | unstable does suck. |
| 02:45.14 | ubuntudude | but on the other hand in testing some important software is missign with I do need, what then? |
| 02:45.18 | Guerin | if you're not skilled |
| 02:45.23 | Guerin | if you're skilled, unstable is ok |
| 02:45.29 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: no, just RC bugs; the RMs will remove packages from testing that are buggy and holding up transition. |
| 02:45.40 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: ah yeah. |
| 02:45.53 | Guerin | ubuntudude: like what? |
| 02:45.59 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: check the error log when you get the permission denied. |
| 02:46.12 | dvsdude | Guerin, looking for how to on adding gpg --keyserver to apt |
| 02:46.23 | Guerin | !tell dvsdude about apt-secure |
| 02:46.32 | m0se5 | so is there a point say an month from now that I'll be able to install kdevelop3? |
| 02:46.37 | dvsdude | Guerin, thanks |
| 02:46.51 | ubuntudude | Guerin: I think that rootplug soft needs one of thoes two |
| 02:47.02 | m0se5 | !tell m0se5 about apt-secure |
| 02:47.13 | ganymed | i have done so... |
| 02:47.21 | ubuntudude | I wanted to script some actions after putting in USB device, do both hotplug and udev provide such functionality? |
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| 02:47.51 | ganymed | it gives: [Sat Nov 05 03:43:15 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Symbolic link not allowed: /var/www/es |
| 02:47.54 | Guerin | ubuntudude: any software which NEEDS either hotplug or udev is broken enough as to not be worth using |
| 02:48.03 | ubuntudude | hmmm |
| 02:48.19 | Guerin | ubuntudude: hotplug can do that. |
| 02:48.26 | ubuntudude | udev as well? |
| 02:48.35 | Guerin | ubuntudude: dunno, never used it. |
| 02:48.46 | Guerin | ubuntudude: because it's horribly broken. |
| 02:49.05 | ubuntudude | so, hotplug is basicly better? |
| 02:49.15 | Guerin | ubuntudude: no. |
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| 02:49.21 | Guerin | ubuntudude: THEY DO DIFFERENT THINGS |
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| 02:49.48 | Guerin | ubuntudude: hotplug is simply less broken than udev. Udev is a whole different bag than hotplug. They are not directly comparable. |
| 02:49.54 | ubuntudude | I just want to use my devices, USB devices, firewire, tvtuner, also to detect plugging in |
| 02:50.03 | Guerin | is this clear, or need I thump you with the cluebat? |
| 02:50.11 | Gnea | Guerin: is this fucking moron still trolling?! |
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| 02:50.53 | ubuntudude | well, that was helpfull |
| 02:51.01 | Jonc101 | does anybody know how to change the irc usermask? aka bob@196.x.x.x here? |
| 02:51.12 | enveezee | I wish everything were as easy as local delivery within the hour |
| 02:51.18 | Tortel | "/mode {your nick} +x |
| 02:51.20 | Guerin | Jonc101: see http://www.freenode.net |
| 02:51.21 | ganymed | dondelelcaro: it gives: [Sat Nov 05 03:43:15 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Symbolic link not allowed: /var/www/es |
| 02:51.25 | Tortel | works on some servers |
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| 02:51.44 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: you don't have FollowSymLinks on in /var/www |
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| 02:52.40 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: since that directory is controlled in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, you'll need to change it there. |
| 02:53.09 | m0se5 | abrotman: Thanks for the help. Later |
| 02:53.13 | dondelelcaro | and indeed, it's Ubuntu specifically that has broken that, since the default Debian configuration for apache2 has that enabled. |
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| 02:53.41 | ganymed | dondelelcaro. i do... the line is: Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks Includes IncludesNOEXEC Indexes MultiViews - for - <Directory /var/www> in 'default' |
| 02:54.12 | Guerin | ganymed: are you using ubuntu? |
| 02:54.23 | dvsdude | Tortel, freenode does not support x mode |
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| 02:54.43 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: again, you're using ubuntu, not Debian; I can't tell what else has been changed with your configuration. Please ask in #ubuntu. |
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| 02:54.46 | ganymed | no, kubuntu, but it's essentially the same |
| 02:54.47 | liable | wtf isnt rsync -avz preserving ownership and group attributes when run as a user? |
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| 02:55.08 | dondelelcaro | ganymed: and no, it's not. Ask in #ubuntu or #kubuntu. |
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| 02:56.33 | neenok | anyone running bitlbee? |
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| 02:56.34 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:56.40 | deadcat | essentially the same to them mean "well i was kissing a photo of some porn star, there for i kissed the porn star.. they are essentially the same." |
| 02:56.42 | Tortel | dondelecaro: Why are you able to get operator statous? Moderator, devoloper, no commont, other? |
| 02:56.56 | neenok | anyone running bitlbee or weechat in here? |
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| 02:57.03 | abrotman | Tortel: he's a channel op |
| 02:57.03 | dondelelcaro | !tell neenok -about anyone |
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| 02:57.35 | bsims | I am patching in OGIstuff for festival when I build the deb I get this "SIOD ERROR: could not open file ogi_syllabify.scm" but its there and I can open it any ideas? |
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| 02:59.45 | neenok | yes |
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| 03:00.25 | Tortel | is the !#kubuntu at the end to make him join #kubuntu when he tries to join here? |
| 03:00.28 | dondelelcaro | Tortel: yes. |
| 03:00.34 | Tortel | ok |
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| 03:02.07 | tvn | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/HelpOnInstalling <- what's with all the porn links here ? |
| 03:03.14 | Tortel | wow, good point |
| 03:03.43 | dondelelcaro | tvn: spammer, apparently. |
| 03:04.05 | liable | and why the hell does rsync need the dirctory to be executable? |
| 03:04.32 | dondelelcaro | liable: because otherwise it can't see the contents of the directory. |
| 03:05.03 | liable | oh. |
| 03:05.35 | beniamino | i have a problem: i have a USB drive, attached via PCMCIA, that i want to mount on boot. if i enable auto in /etc/fstab, fsck complains that the drive is corrupt, i think because pcmcia services aren't started yet. can i reverse the order so pcmcia starts first? |
| 03:06.17 | liable | dondelelcaro: any idea why it doesnt preserve ownerships when run as a user (changes them to the user) |
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| 03:08.49 | liable | permissions still confuse me from time to time... |
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| 03:10.30 | ubuntudude | how to list files in a .deb, and how to extract them? |
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| 03:12.49 | beniamino | can anyone recommend a more appropriate place to ask my usb question? |
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| 03:15.29 | enveezee | beniamino: sounds like an init question to me |
| 03:15.34 | enveezee | beniamino: man update-rc.d |
| 03:15.40 | dondelelcaro | ubuntudude: dpkg-deb -c foo.deb; dpkg-deb -x foo.deb; man dpkg-deb. |
| 03:15.54 | ubuntudude | I used dpkg-deb --extract |
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| 03:16.09 | dondelelcaro | again, man dpkg-deb; you will be enlightened. |
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| 03:16.23 | dondelelcaro | liable: because it has to be root in order to change owners and select specific permisions. |
| 03:17.46 | beniamino | enveezee: yeah, i just don't know what's ok to do. e.g. can i move pcmcia from rcN.d -> rcS ? |
| 03:18.09 | diana_ | What is a good spyware/malware/virus/trojan/etc scanner for linux/ |
| 03:18.10 | enveezee | beniamino: I dont know wtf you are talking about :P |
| 03:18.31 | beniamino | d'oh |
| 03:19.04 | dondelelcaro | diana_: you don't really need one, since linux doesn't really get that sort of thing. |
| 03:19.12 | enveezee | diana_: clamav, chkrootkit... |
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| 03:19.48 | enveezee | dondelelcaro: just gets BOFH that are worse |
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| 03:19.56 | diana_ | thanks enveezee |
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| 03:21.46 | diana_ | dondelelcaro: i know |
| 03:21.51 | diana_ | I've never had a problem. |
| 03:21.58 | diana_ | Still nice to know there is scanning going on though. |
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| 03:22.04 | diana_ | i mean it's rare..but not impossible. |
| 03:22.34 | dondelelcaro | all scanners do is look for known things; there aren't any known viruses out there. The most we get are worms, and those go through known exploits, most of which have already been patched. |
| 03:22.37 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, if clamav detects a javaclassloader trojan in the .java/development folder can i delete the file in question or just cat it out |
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| 03:23.43 | dondelelcaro | dvsdude: presumably; but if you have a trojan there and have ever run any java, you should check any other files that get read/executed before doing anything else. |
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| 03:24.46 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, should this be contanined in the users home directory or could it affect system files not owned by the user |
| 03:24.54 | mymayer | which variable stands for the current Home dir ? |
| 03:25.00 | mymayer | $HOME ? |
| 03:25.09 | dondelelcaro | dvsdude: it should only affect files that are writeable by the user |
| 03:25.17 | enveezee | mymayer: yes |
| 03:25.19 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, cheers |
| 03:25.43 | enveezee | mymayer: /home/$USER works too in some cases |
| 03:26.20 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, is there a command to list all files folders etc owned by a user on a system |
| 03:26.36 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, or writable |
| 03:26.39 | dondelelcaro | find . -uid $(id -u user)... |
| 03:26.50 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, thanks |
| 03:26.54 | Tortel | mymayer: to go to your home on the command line, use cd with no arguments |
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| 03:27.28 | Tortel | gah, aegis virus scanner doesnt like wine files |
| 03:27.30 | Tortel | :| |
| 03:28.08 | yumeng | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:29.06 | dondelelcaro | dvsdude: something slightly more complex like find . -uid $(id -u user) -mode -u=w -o -gid $(id -g user) -mode -g=w -o -mode -o=w; [if the user is in multiple groups, it's slightly more complicated. |
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| 03:30.13 | TNKS | hi all. I'm trying to debug why my laptop won't connect to my home wireless router unless I cycle the power. Some kind of handshaking occurs on a power cycle, and it allows my computer to connect. Otherwise, my computer can see the network with 'iwlist scanning' but it won't ifup to it. |
| 03:30.17 | hmpf | hi any idea why xmms wont play files? |
| 03:30.38 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: you'll have to be slightly more verbose than that... |
| 03:30.57 | TNKS | Is there a good package to help debug this? Maybe a sniffer that's informative? |
| 03:30.57 | dondelelcaro | TNKS: do you have the right essid and/or key set? |
| 03:31.23 | TNKS | dondelelcaro, I can't imagine that's the problem, because it /does/ connect after I power down and power up the router. |
| 03:31.28 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, thanks for that |
| 03:31.37 | hmpf | dondelelcaro it just doesnt play the files.. click on play and nothing happens, thought it doesnt use the right sound device so i enabled /dev/dsp, but still.. |
| 03:31.54 | dondelelcaro | TNKS: it very well could be; you could be connecting to someone elses network, or it's only in that brief time period that the network is advertised, or similar. |
| 03:32.23 | TNKS | dondelelcaro, no, that's not the case. I did check for that (iwconfig). |
| 03:32.30 | enveezee | hmpf: run it from a terminal |
| 03:32.30 | ambrose | hmpf, have you checked that the mixer hasn't muted any channels? |
| 03:32.33 | hmpf | err now it works.. |
| 03:32.36 | hmpf | nm :) |
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| 03:32.56 | TNKS | dondelelcaro, also, I have wpa_supplicant running and it prioritizes my network. |
| 03:33.02 | dondelelcaro | ugh. |
| 03:33.03 | hmpf | it wasnt working for 2 days dunno what happened that made it work now |
| 03:33.18 | dondelelcaro | TNKS: best of luck. |
| 03:33.49 | hmpf | how can i connect to a machine but with a destination ip address that doesnt belong to that machine |
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| 03:34.02 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: you don't. |
| 03:34.02 | Gnea | wpa is a joke |
| 03:34.03 | hmpf | just like what happens when i send a packet thru a router |
| 03:34.10 | hmpf | dondelelcaro why not? |
| 03:34.25 | TNKS | dondelelcaro, thanks. This problem wasn't there the whole time. Some kind of tweaking I did broke something. I thought my cheapo router was just crapping out, but then I realized that everything was fine in Windows. |
| 03:34.28 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: because it's totally pointless in most cases; any decent tcp stack will reject packets like that. |
| 03:34.30 | Tortel | because youll connect to another computer |
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| 03:34.42 | Tortel | or not... |
| 03:34.47 | hmpf | dondelelcaro huh? if that was the case you wouldnt be here ircing.. |
| 03:35.18 | hmpf | everytime you send a packet that goes thru your packet, it contains the router mac address but a destination ip of other machine, irc.freenode.net's in this case :) |
| 03:35.23 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: no, because those packets have explicit destinations for my machine; the routers aren't the end recipients and are a totally different case. |
| 03:35.49 | hmpf | dondelelcaro i didnt say there is a use in what i wanna do, im just testing some tcp/ip stack implementation |
| 03:35.59 | hmpf | do you know how can i do it? |
| 03:36.19 | hmpf | s/packet/router btw |
| 03:36.21 | hmpf | :D |
| 03:36.26 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: inject a the packet; any decent packet injector can do it. |
| 03:36.41 | hmpf | dondelelcaro i didnt find any with linklayer options |
| 03:36.43 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: no, the packet has the destination; the router just knows what network it is connected to. |
| 03:37.00 | hmpf | if ill create a static arp with the mac of my target but a different ip |
| 03:37.03 | hmpf | it should do the trick no? |
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| 03:37.38 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: try nemesis. |
| 03:37.41 | hmpf | dondelelcaro same. bottom line is that the router receives a packet with a dest mac of itself, and a dest ip of other machine. which is exactly what i wanna do |
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| 03:38.09 | hmpf | ah nemesis would do.. thanks |
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| 03:38.16 | hmpf | though arp -s will also work :) |
| 03:38.17 | serfurj | if i want to install a package that isn't in stable or backports, would i be better off installing the unstable debian package or building it from source? |
| 03:38.25 | n7qnc | hello all |
| 03:38.29 | dondelelcaro | the mac is only there if the transport layer is ethernet; the transport layer doesn't necessarily need MACs. |
| 03:38.46 | dondelelcaro | serfurj: building your own backport. |
| 03:38.48 | The_Vulture | serfurj: try /msg apt simple sid backport |
| 03:38.56 | hmpf | im talking about ethernets |
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| 03:39.47 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; then you're talking about a special case. |
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| 03:40.16 | serfurj | The_Vulture: ?? nothing |
| 03:40.29 | Gnea | hmpf: http://www.ipprimer.com/ethernet.cfm |
| 03:40.31 | dondelelcaro | !tell serfurj -about simple sid backport |
| 03:40.39 | The_Vulture | dondelelcaro: thanks. |
| 03:40.49 | hmpf | now 1 more thing. say i have computer A with NIC0 and NIC1, and computer B with NIC2, NIC2 Is connected to a switch, NIC1 of computer A is connected to the same switch, but NIC0 of computer A is connected to a different switch/subnet |
| 03:40.59 | hmpf | and i send arp broadcast with who-has NIC0's ip |
| 03:41.03 | hmpf | machine a receives the frame |
| 03:41.07 | hmpf | will it reply with nic0's ip? |
| 03:41.09 | serfurj | !i'm -confused |
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| 03:41.46 | Gnea | hmpf: this is #debian, not #networks101 (or whatever it's called) |
| 03:42.03 | hmpf | Gnea linux and networking work closely together :D |
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| 03:42.06 | Gnea | hmpf: but ethernet has its own edges |
| 03:42.21 | Gnea | hmpf: but they are exclusively 2 different things. >:) |
| 03:42.38 | hmpf | well if there is someone who can answer the question why should it bother anyone |
| 03:42.47 | hmpf | 1 may just learn a new thing :P |
| 03:43.07 | Gnea | have you read the url i gave you? |
| 03:43.13 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: it's entirely dependent on how A is set up. |
| 03:43.19 | hmpf | Gnea which url |
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| 03:43.29 | hmpf | dondelelcaro A isnt an arp proxy or anything |
| 03:43.29 | Tortel | Goodnight |
| 03:43.38 | hmpf | nor a router |
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| 03:43.56 | hmpf | its just a linux with no extra configurations |
| 03:44.00 | hmpf | its DEBIAN |
| 03:44.06 | hmpf | to make it relevant. |
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| 03:44.31 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: if A isn't anything, than it shouldn't respond to an ARP request on the wrong interface. |
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| 03:45.05 | hmpf | dondelelcaro so the kernel tracks from which interface it arrived in order to decide if to reply or not |
| 03:45.10 | Gnea | hmpf: pageup |
| 03:45.13 | pathfinder | anybody knowing, how to delete specific files in 10000 of subdirectories with one command ? |
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| 03:45.27 | hmpf | Gnea oh i read that one |
| 03:45.28 | The_Vulture | pathfinder: how are these files specified? |
| 03:45.38 | The_Vulture | pathfinder: probably something like find + rm |
| 03:45.43 | Guerin | pathfinder: use find |
| 03:46.09 | hmpf | Gnea im pretty sure those things arent covered there :) |
| 03:46.11 | pathfinder | any example ? -- not knowing find very well |
| 03:46.15 | Gnea | pathfinder: find /dir -type f -exec rm -f {} |
| 03:46.19 | Gnea | pathfinder: find /dir -type f -exec rm -f {} \; |
| 03:46.29 | Gnea | friggin' enter key |
| 03:46.33 | The_Vulture | pathfinder: man find :) |
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| 03:46.40 | Gnea | hmpf: oh but they are :) |
| 03:46.54 | curt | !pam |
| 03:46.54 | dpkg | from memory, pam is the Pluggable Authentication Modules. Check http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ for more information. Linux-PAM SysAdmin's Guide is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html. PAM Always Malfunctions |
| 03:47.14 | Gnea | hmpf: but you're interest seems to be in how the linux kernel itself handles network traffic |
| 03:47.19 | hmpf | Gnea yea? show me 1 link |
| 03:47.22 | hmpf | this is implementation specific |
| 03:47.25 | hmpf | it cant be covered |
| 03:47.34 | Gnea | it can't? |
| 03:47.36 | dondelelcaro | find /dir -type f -print0 |xargs -0 rm -f; is probably better, but whatever works. |
| 03:47.37 | Gnea | why not? |
| 03:47.37 | hmpf | thats why im saying it isnt covered |
| 03:47.45 | hmpf | it can, it just isnt :) |
| 03:47.52 | Gnea | how do you know? :) |
| 03:48.56 | hmpf | because i read that, along time ago.. and it doesnt cover implementation specific behavour if i recall correctly |
| 03:49.22 | Gnea | what was 'that', and how much time constitutes 'along time ago' |
| 03:49.44 | hytt | !sex |
| 03:49.44 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 03:49.45 | Gnea | +? |
| 03:49.45 | hmpf | 3 years or so, but that isnt relevant, unless you know it's there lets cut it here :) |
| 03:49.45 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; something that's responding to an ARP request that actually isn't on the physical network (or isn't being bridged) is busted. |
| 03:49.55 | Gnea | 3 years. |
| 03:50.01 | Gnea | this conversation ends now. |
| 03:50.28 | hmpf | Gnea ok lets switch subject then |
| 03:50.35 | hmpf | lets talk about ms debian 2005 |
| 03:50.37 | dondelelcaro | hmpf: if you really want to know, net/ipv4/arp.c is only a less away. |
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| 03:51.00 | dondelelcaro | right; we've gone way OT now. |
| 03:51.10 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you're on a tear tonight :) |
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| 03:51.22 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it's this new /at functionality... I'm quite happy with it. |
| 03:51.27 | abrotman | heh |
| 03:51.36 | n7qnc | hi |
| 03:51.40 | Gnea | abrotman: tear? he's ripping a whole new space time continuum ;) |
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| 03:53.09 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: it's a script for your irc client ? |
| 03:53.21 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yes, it's called auto_bleh |
| 03:53.34 | mymayer | how to upload a dir with "ftp" |
| 03:53.36 | mymayer | ? |
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| 03:53.49 | dondelelcaro | http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/auto_bleh.pl_ |
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| 03:53.59 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: use lftp and it's mirror command. |
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| 03:54.15 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: otherwise you're going to be stuck using mput or similar, which is time consuming. |
| 03:54.21 | curt | how do i create a user/password for ftp server (proftpd) |
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| 03:54.52 | mymayer | dondelelcaro then, what is the easiest way to set up a FTP ? |
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| 03:55.22 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 03:56.21 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: an ftp? I'm a bit lost here; you were talking about uploading to an ftp server. For that, use lftp. |
| 03:56.47 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, that's what I gathered you were tyring to do) |
| 03:57.07 | Gnea | !dbugs 315718 |
| 03:57.10 | dpkg | #315718:[sudo] sudo: Sudo version 1.6.8p9 now available, fixes security issue.; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:03:02 UTC |
| 03:57.57 | mymayer | dondelelcaro for now, maybe i set up the FTP server i will need to anyway |
| 03:58.20 | mymayer | which should i prefer, who has the easiest inteface, maybe a gui ( got fluxbox running) |
| 03:59.12 | curt | more specifically, do i have to create a user on my computer to add a user/passwd for pam authenticated ftp server |
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| 04:00.11 | mymayer | dondelelcaro are there any gui-configureable FTP server in the sarge stbale package ? |
| 04:01.14 | curt | i am no expert but you could use webmin to configure a non-gui ftp server |
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| 04:01.46 | dondelelcaro | far better to just use proftp or similar; indeed, far better not to use an ftpd at all. |
| 04:02.14 | curt | no it really is neccesary |
| 04:02.37 | dondelelcaro | rarely is it actually necessary... |
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| 04:03.19 | dondelelcaro | if you have accounts, you generally want to give scp access instead; if you don't, you generally just want to have anonymous upload only access and download access. |
| 04:03.43 | curt | !scp |
| 04:03.43 | dpkg | [scp] Secure Copy, part of the ssh suite, and a very handy program. ssh + cpio. EXAMPLE: scp *.mp3 me@myotherbox:/var/tmp |
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| 04:04.18 | Gnea | everytime i try to connect to this system with an account setup with scponly, i get this error: WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0 and nothing in the logs... google hasn't stumbled across anything useful yet |
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| 04:05.17 | dondelelcaro | winscp? |
| 04:05.49 | Gnea | same error with winscp, scp and ssh |
| 04:05.51 | mymayer | dondelelcaro is SCP slower then FTP ? |
| 04:06.01 | abrotman | yes |
| 04:06.09 | mymayer | much slower? |
| 04:06.10 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: it's encrypted, so yes; but in practice you tend not to see the overhead. |
| 04:06.36 | dondelelcaro | or at least, I don't notice the overhead... but then again, I rarely do anything that isn't encrypted over the network. |
| 04:06.39 | mymayer | i mean i send files like arroun half an GB and a bunch of it |
| 04:07.01 | mymayer | so maybe better use fT P? |
| 04:07.09 | mymayer | ftp for local transfer only ? |
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| 04:07.26 | mymayer | think its ok for securing as an local network- file server ? |
| 04:07.35 | abrotman | or use samba or nfs |
| 04:07.51 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: on a local network it'll be fast enought that you won't care. |
| 04:08.04 | hytt | scp is nice, but cant use "resume" |
| 04:08.15 | mymayer | yes samba would be a real nice alternative |
| 04:08.16 | curt | my proftpd is almost ready I just can't figure out the user part |
| 04:08.21 | Gnea | sometimes, resume can be a curse |
| 04:08.39 | mymayer | abrotman any tutorial for sambe setting up ? |
| 04:08.53 | hytt | too :) |
| 04:08.59 | dondelelcaro | hytt: in those cases, rsync is your friend. |
| 04:09.01 | abrotman | samba.org has nice docs |
| 04:09.12 | hytt | yeah i like rsync :) |
| 04:10.00 | mymayer | abrotman what do you think about using webmin-samba for first configuring, then unsinstall abrotman ? |
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| 04:10.30 | Gnea | swat > webmin |
| 04:10.31 | curt | maybe i'll go try and figure it our myself |
| 04:10.34 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 04:10.34 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 04:10.45 | Gnea | !swat |
| 04:10.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with |
| 04:10.57 | mymayer | Gnea i now swat, its really nice. is there an SWAT for debian ? |
| 04:11.16 | Gnea | mymayer: are you familiar with the apt-cache command? |
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| 04:11.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell mymayer -about search |
| 04:11.37 | mymayer | jap, i gotit |
| 04:11.46 | Gnea | use it :) |
| 04:11.48 | mymayer | no, i got it allready, just overseen it |
| 04:11.49 | mymayer | sorry |
| 04:11.57 | mymayer | what was the std port ? |
| 04:11.57 | Gnea | ah |
| 04:12.12 | Gnea | you have to explicitly enable it in inetd.conf after installing |
| 04:12.21 | mymayer | ok |
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| 04:14.01 | mymayer | swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/swat |
| 04:14.06 | mymayer | looks not right ? |
| 04:14.42 | mymayer | i need toi configute it from the local network, lets say from 192.168.178.25 |
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| 04:15.14 | Gnea | did you restart inetd? |
| 04:15.23 | mymayer | inetd q ? |
| 04:15.31 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.54 | Gnea | then see the new port it's on: netstat -nap | grep inetd |
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| 04:16.19 | bcc | hey guys, does anyone know how i can generate ascii chars with x? like alt+num with windows. i could never figure out how to do it and really need it now. |
| 04:16.52 | mymayer | not bad Gnea, worked perfectly |
| 04:16.58 | Gnea | :) |
| 04:17.12 | mymayer | but where, if i would like to, configure port and ip for restricted access ? |
| 04:17.45 | Gnea | mymayer: it's using tcp wrappers, so you can restrict it with /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny |
| 04:18.12 | mymayer | ah, ok |
| 04:18.22 | mymayer | or just by firewall / port |
| 04:18.29 | Gnea | that too |
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| 04:18.43 | mymayer | ok, for just installed debian today the first time, iam far on track |
| 04:19.00 | hytt | ipt_iprange works fine with iptables ? |
| 04:19.07 | mymayer | buts its 5 o`clock and still gettting help : sthat debian com _:= |
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| 04:19.44 | Gnea | yeah well, if you want help ya gotta give it ;) |
| 04:19.45 | deadcat | Gnea: have you tried slim yet? |
| 04:19.54 | deadcat | what pkgs did it required to compile? |
| 04:20.02 | Gnea | deadcat: i got it compiled but haven't tried it yet |
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| 04:20.11 | deadcat | ah |
| 04:20.12 | Gnea | deadcat: not sure, it 'just worked' heh |
| 04:20.21 | Gnea | deadcat: hey, you ever used scponly? |
| 04:20.27 | deadcat | Gnea: damn. maybe you have loads of dev pkgs installed. i dont have any |
| 04:20.39 | Gnea | deadcat: it's my main system - probably |
| 04:20.40 | deadcat | Gnea: i use rssh |
| 04:20.55 | Gnea | deadcat: mkay.. |
| 04:21.08 | mymayer | Gnea as alway, i got bad "access" problems with samba |
| 04:21.33 | deadcat | Gnea: scponly only do scp and sftp or just scp? |
| 04:21.39 | Gnea | deadcat: it's mostly just X devs, png jpeg devs, zlib dev, some others |
| 04:22.01 | deadcat | Gnea: ya. i think libxrender-dev in ppc is broken right now |
| 04:22.04 | Gnea | deadcat: tried both, looks like scp only |
| 04:22.49 | deadcat | Gnea: ah. rssh does sftp scp rsync and cvs. which is perfect for what i need |
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| 04:23.36 | harry | hi ....I have a question...wud be gr8 if someone cud help me |
| 04:23.45 | harry | I have kde 3.4 running on sarge.. |
| 04:24.09 | Gnea | !wud |
| 04:24.09 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 04:24.36 | hytt | lol |
| 04:24.42 | jts | K so my question of the evening: Apt wants to temporarily remove e2fsprogs... It won't, even with the parameter it tells me to add to the conf. |
| 04:24.51 | jts | Why won't it remove it so I can use apt? |
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| 04:25.05 | deadcat | man these guys can definately create a new languange.. |
| 04:25.17 | Gnea | jts: did you read what it said? |
| 04:25.20 | dondelelcaro | jts: first actually upgrade to sarge; then upgrade to the current version of testing or whatever you're trying to upgrade to. |
| 04:25.40 | jts | dondelelcaro: I can't apt-get install/dist-upgrade, at ALL. |
| 04:25.47 | hytt | you cant e2fsprogs cuz is a essential pacakge |
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| 04:25.51 | harry | so when I upgraded today...everyhting fell apart....now I cant get amarok to work |
| 04:26.04 | harry | it want kdelibs4 I have kdelibs4c2 |
| 04:26.15 | Gnea | broke |
| 04:26.16 | mymayer | is there a way to do a software raid "partition" wise. Lets say 2 partitions on to diffrent drives, both 4 GB big, should alway have the same data. Any ideas ? |
| 04:26.20 | dondelelcaro | jts: yes, you can. Fix your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at sarge; run apt-get update; then run apt-get dist-upgrade; then change them back to testing. |
| 04:26.40 | harry | it want kdelibs4 I have kdelibs4c2 |
| 04:26.55 | harry | it wants libarts1 I have libarts1c2 |
| 04:26.56 | dondelelcaro | harry: no, you want kdelibs4c2. |
| 04:27.17 | dondelelcaro | harry: whatever you're trying to install hasn't been rebuilt for the C++ transition that is happening. Welcome to unstable. |
| 04:27.32 | harry | yeah i thought it was testing :) |
| 04:27.41 | harry | not unstable |
| 04:27.56 | jts | dondelelcaro: Hooray for downloading 400mb of stuff. |
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| 04:28.20 | harry | so I basically have to wait for the next amarok to come out before I install it ?? |
| 04:28.26 | dondelelcaro | harry: or you can build it |
| 04:28.39 | harry | yeah i know...I am trying not to.. |
| 04:28.42 | dondelelcaro | it's a pretty simple process; apt-get -b source amarok; |
| 04:28.42 | harry | but i guess.. |
| 04:28.49 | harry | thanks for the help.. |
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| 04:29.21 | harry | yeah me going to build it...thanks again |
| 04:29.49 | deadcat | Gnea: what did you use to build the slim .deb? |
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| 04:30.48 | marty | i want to install a java runtime environment, i have gotten as far as downloading a .bin file, but have run in to a brick wall there |
| 04:31.05 | marty | i would like some help if anyone could enlighten me as to where i'm being stupid |
| 04:31.33 | The_Vulture | marty: have you read the install documentation |
| 04:31.33 | marty | *where i'm being ignorant (what i haven' |
| 04:31.37 | marty | t learned) |
| 04:31.43 | The_Vulture | marty: or considered using make-jpkg (in the java-package package) |
| 04:32.04 | marty | i'll try that |
| 04:32.20 | dvsdude | marty, http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#install |
| 04:32.25 | hytt | marty> just read the "instructions" on the web site |
| 04:32.28 | hytt | lol |
| 04:32.40 | marty | thanks :) |
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| 04:39.03 | jts | dondelelcaro: 36% :p |
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| 04:42.59 | dvsdude | is there a way to limit apt-get's bandwidth so when i run it it only uses a max of say 20kBs |
| 04:43.29 | dondelelcaro | dvsdude: not really; if you want it to be limited, use a traffic shaper. |
| 04:44.11 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, bugger it would be handy |
| 04:44.41 | mymayer | is there a way to do a software raid "partition" wise. Lets say 2 partitions on to diffrent drives, both 4 GB big, should alway have the same data. Any ideas ? |
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| 04:45.44 | dondelelcaro | dvsdude: if it's really a big deal, use a slower mirror. |
| 04:46.16 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: that's one of the typical ways that software raid is done. |
| 04:46.55 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, well its not really it would just be nice to be able to say apt-get upgrade and still be able to surf the net with a bit of speed instead i find apt consumes the bandwidth |
| 04:47.38 | dvsdude | dondelelcaro, thanks for your help :-) |
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| 04:47.54 | mymayer | dondelelcaro : so setting up a raid1 with : raidtools and mdadm ? |
| 04:47.59 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: yes. |
| 04:48.30 | mymayer | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.1 |
| 04:48.47 | mymayer | following this howto, its not that difficult, opr = |
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| 04:49.15 | error403 | Is there a way to be able to access new disk partitions without having to reboot? |
| 04:49.37 | dvsdude | error403, mount them |
| 04:49.49 | deadcat | Gnea: installed on the x86. all it does it start but i dont see any login prompt. it seems running i can see the X mouse cursor. but thats it. |
| 04:50.04 | error403 | dvsdude, i'm not that stupid :P According to the kernel they dont exist, until i reboot... |
| 04:50.05 | dvsdude | error403, then add to fstab so when u do reboot there there |
| 04:50.06 | maatttt | does anyone know of a good debian+exim+mailman tutorial, I'm having problems with the aliases ? |
| 04:50.06 | _karma_ | Quick question: For some reason, whenever I reload my fluxbox style, it always wants to use my previous wallpaper. I've removed ~/.fluxbox/lastwallpaper and edited the rootComand line in ~/.fluxbox/init file, but it just re-writes the rootCommand line with what was previously there when I reload the style |
| 04:50.16 | dvsdude | error403, dam i am |
| 04:50.38 | error403 | maatttt, use postfix instead? :P |
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| 04:50.55 | dondelelcaro | error403: depends on the partition type; you can often get the kernel to rescan the partition information. However, in some cases it won't be avialable until you reboot. |
| 04:50.57 | error403 | maatttt, i tried exim, took me 2 days to get working - I got postfix working in 2 hours |
| 04:51.13 | error403 | dondelelcaro, how do i get the kernel to rescan? |
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| 04:51.30 | maatttt | I have exim working for normal mail, it's the mailman integration which I'm snagged on. |
| 04:52.19 | dondelelcaro | error403: fdisk does it; I'm not sure how you do it manually. |
| 04:52.44 | marty | where should i install a plugin for mozilla firefox? |
| 04:52.54 | error403 | dondelelcaro, yeah... the thing is it says it failed to re-read the partition table... |
| 04:53.08 | mfrisch | marty click the .xpi in moz |
| 04:53.12 | dondelelcaro | error403: oh; well, in those cases, yes, a reboot is pretty much the only way to go |
| 04:53.23 | deadcat | watching reloaded on tbs (= |
| 04:53.30 | error403 | marty, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins i think, if you want it to be available to all users. |
| 04:54.07 | marty | ok, so i just put the .bin there, and then unpack it? |
| 04:54.08 | mymayer | guys how to do some partition on debian ? |
| 04:54.12 | error403 | dondelelcaro, ah well, such as life.... I have spare space at the end of my hard drive, making about 4 chroot installs of various distros, all at once... |
| 04:54.13 | error403 | :D |
| 04:54.25 | error403 | marty, what plugin is this? |
| 04:54.28 | marty | java |
| 04:54.58 | mfrisch | !java |
| 04:54.58 | dpkg | somebody said java was Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 04:55.11 | mymayer | guys how to do some partition on debian ? dondelelcaro |
| 04:55.21 | hytt | /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ |
| 04:55.24 | error403 | marty, /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 04:55.40 | hytt | /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 04:55.52 | error403 | marty, that will make a .deb for you... keep hold of that, you can then do dpkg -i your_jre.deb |
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| 04:56.40 | Miesco | Whats a music player? |
| 04:56.52 | Miesco | A GUI music player |
| 04:57.03 | hytt | a gay music player? |
| 04:57.20 | pureone | xmms xine |
| 04:57.20 | error403 | marty, then do what hytt said (can be found by /msg dpkg java-plugin :P) |
| 04:57.31 | pureone | apt-cache search music |
| 04:57.31 | error403 | amarok all the way! |
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| 04:57.44 | Miesco | No not music, video's also |
| 04:57.58 | pureone | then change the search term.. |
| 04:58.13 | marty | what do you mean, /msg? |
| 04:58.14 | hytt | xmms, totem, xine, mplayer, etc.. |
| 04:58.14 | dondelelcaro | mymayer: with fdisk or similar. |
| 04:58.16 | pureone | mplayer beats all ;) |
| 04:58.33 | Miesco | pureone: GUI? |
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| 04:58.47 | hytt | mplayer is nice, aviplay |
| 04:58.58 | hytt | Miesco> gmplayer is a gui for mplayer |
| 04:59.14 | Miesco | gmplayer is good? |
| 04:59.40 | hytt | i prefer the comand line, but gmplayer is nice too |
| 04:59.42 | deadcat | Miesco: try it |
| 04:59.50 | Miesco | I did |
| 04:59.57 | deadcat | good for you then. |
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| 05:00.24 | hytt | vlc, else |
| 05:00.43 | pureone | vlc is better then xine on slower machines |
| 05:00.47 | marty | so, how do i change a .bin to a .deb |
| 05:00.47 | marty | ? |
| 05:00.54 | deadcat | you dont |
| 05:01.03 | deadcat | or mv blah.bin blah.deb |
| 05:01.11 | xuniluser | What port does torrent use? can i use that behind our firewall? |
| 05:01.25 | deadcat | xuniluser: 6881-> |
| 05:01.28 | hytt | vlc is nice, but the transcoder of vlc is odd |
| 05:01.37 | Miesco | I need a media player with a good playlist area |
| 05:01.45 | marty | ok ok |
| 05:01.58 | Estes | I know i'll be VERY out of topic but... i marry tomorow and i still don't get this : "I thee wed and pledge..." thee and pledge got me lost... |
| 05:02.15 | Estes | any help please ? |
| 05:02.22 | hytt | Miesco> totem, wine or xmms-mplayer (plugin) |
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| 05:02.29 | ambroseL | thee = you |
| 05:02.34 | ambroseL | pledge = promise |
| 05:02.39 | Estes | dpkg -l | grep knowledge |
| 05:02.41 | Miesco | totem plays music? |
| 05:02.42 | dpkg | grep knowledge 3.8-3.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 05:02.43 | ambroseL | congratulations Estes |
| 05:02.43 | pureone | mplayer -playlist listoffiles |
| 05:02.44 | deadcat | Estes: dont know. try #british-english |
| 05:02.51 | Estes | ambroseL, thank you :) |
| 05:02.56 | ambroseL | Estes: go to bed and get some sleep :-) |
| 05:03.00 | hytt | totem play music and video |
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| 05:03.08 | Estes | ambroseL, i should |
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| 05:03.16 | hytt | xmms-xmmplayer too |
| 05:03.20 | jts | hooray for dist-upgrading. |
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| 05:04.33 | ambroseL | Estes, so should I :-) |
| 05:04.46 | Miesco | Whats a good GUI media player with good support for playlists? |
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| 05:05.36 | hytt | xmms-xmmplayer and totem-xine |
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| 05:06.28 | Estes | ok |
| 05:06.31 | Estes | i go to bed now |
| 05:06.32 | Estes | thanks a lot |
| 05:06.42 | Estes | see you later guys..... |
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| 05:07.30 | psychonate | er, no more K3B in Testing? Is that because of kde3.4? |
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| 05:08.02 | Miesco | Whats so good about xine? |
| 05:08.05 | diana | What package do I need to dpkg-reconfigure to turn off xdm so I can just do startx? |
| 05:08.25 | mfrisch | diana uninstall it |
| 05:08.27 | diana | Miesco: nothing...unless you like exploits in your xine-lib every other day. |
| 05:08.37 | diana | mfrisch: I don't want to uninstall it. |
| 05:08.44 | Miesco | diana: What do you use? |
| 05:08.52 | diana | I don't watch video. |
| 05:08.56 | ambroseL | diana, dunno about dpkg-reconfigure, but you can rename /etc/init.d/S99gdm to /etc/init.d/sgdm and it won't start next reboot |
| 05:08.59 | diana | They're all flawed though. |
| 05:08.59 | mfrisch | diana stop it /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| 05:08.59 | Miesco | What about music? |
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| 05:09.08 | diana | mfrisch: And when I reboot? |
| 05:09.26 | mfrisch | diana remove from runlevel 2 |
| 05:09.52 | diana | yea, runlevel |
| 05:09.53 | diana | thanks |
| 05:09.59 | ambroseL | oh yeah, I mean mv /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm /etc/rc2.d/s99gdm |
| 05:10.00 | mfrisch | ;-) |
| 05:10.45 | Miesco | I dont like totem |
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| 05:11.18 | Miesco | xmms is too small :/ |
| 05:12.02 | seven_six_two | Miesco, what are your needs? |
| 05:12.04 | hytt | put double size o_O |
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| 05:12.35 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Good playlist editor(One that you dont have to close) and GUI, and can play video |
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| 05:13.34 | HarryL | hda:DMA ...hdd:DMA good, but get message on boot says input: failed and yet ps2 mouse works how to get insmod messages to show success? |
| 05:13.43 | seven_six_two | Miesco, not sure. sorry. I use juk for audio and mplayer vor vid |
| 05:13.58 | jeg_ | i just did my first debian install... it's great, except that i get an annoying perl warning whenever i apt-get install anything, saying to check that $LANGUAGE, $LC_ALL, and $LANG are supported and installed on my system |
| 05:14.03 | hytt | gmplayer got a playlist too |
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| 05:14.08 | jeg_ | where are these variables set? |
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| 05:14.32 | dondelelcaro | jeg_: dpkg-reconfigure locales; and build whatever you have LANGUAGE LANG or LC_ALL set to. |
| 05:14.49 | hytt | jeg_> apt-get install locales or reconfigure it |
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| 05:15.18 | jeg_ | dondelelcaro, hytt: ok, thanks, will try out your suggestions |
| 05:15.30 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Juke is not very pretty and is big |
| 05:15.33 | LinuxGold | what package is mysqli in? |
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| 05:16.08 | seven_six_two | Miesco, true, it is big, but i kinda like how it works for me |
| 05:16.27 | HarryL | how is it that mouse aint found on boot yet works in X? |
| 05:16.46 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Yea its pretty good :) |
| 05:16.50 | dondelelcaro | LinuxGold: it's included in php, isn't it? |
| 05:17.00 | Guerin | HarryL: just ignore it |
| 05:17.04 | seven_six_two | Miesco, now that I'm running apache and snort tho, I am going to have to be more careful about memory hogging progs |
| 05:17.16 | Guerin | HarryL: and no error == success on most unix utilities |
| 05:17.17 | HarryL | yeah but I like no error messages clean looking |
| 05:17.21 | LinuxGold | hmm |
| 05:17.24 | LinuxGold | php5 has it. |
| 05:17.30 | Guerin | HarryL: turn your monitor off during boot |
| 05:17.52 | HarryL | dmesg doesnt show errors |
| 05:18.06 | Miesco | seven_six_two: No I ment big as big on your screen |
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| 05:18.09 | mfrisch | Guerin ;-) |
| 05:18.19 | Miesco | Takes up the whole screen |
| 05:18.22 | HarryL | doesnt show modules either |
| 05:18.27 | Guerin | HarryL: insmod or modprobe don't show output if they succeed - if you get no output, they succeeded. |
| 05:18.32 | Guerin | !warnings |
| 05:18.32 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 05:18.41 | seven_six_two | Miesco, lol. ok I agree. |
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| 05:18.54 | HarryL | ok |
| 05:19.28 | HarryL | really want to understand the boot process |
| 05:19.32 | dondelelcaro | although, most of the damn gtk warnings are totally pointless. |
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| 05:19.53 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: and then there are the kde warnings |
| 05:19.57 | seven_six_two | Miesco, rhythmbox isn't too shabby. still pretty big though |
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| 05:20.05 | Guerin | you can tell the authors never run these programs from the cli |
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| 05:20.49 | diana | Where is the file that shows which device is used to connect to the internet by default |
| 05:20.49 | HarryL | as for monitors Guerin, mine is greyscale 640x480 yuck |
| 05:20.55 | diana | Like eth0 eth1 ath0 etc |
| 05:21.01 | Guerin | HarryL: buy a new monitor |
| 05:21.07 | HarryL | expensive |
| 05:21.14 | liable | diana: output of route |
| 05:21.15 | LinuxGold | !dpkg libxm12 |
| 05:21.23 | diana | liable: in /etc |
| 05:21.28 | Guerin | HarryL: a 15" colour monitor aiin't expensive |
| 05:21.40 | HarryL | it is coming to that |
| 05:21.45 | LinuxGold | what is the bot name that I can use to find out which package is in which? |
| 05:21.49 | liable | diana: oh, i think you mean, /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 05:21.54 | Guerin | i'm surprised anyone still uses greyscale 640x480 monitors any more |
| 05:22.06 | diana | thanks liable |
| 05:22.09 | HarryL | something smoked the old pacbell I used |
| 05:22.16 | liable | !tell LinuxGold about search |
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| 05:22.34 | HarryL | that was free too |
| 05:22.57 | psychonate | Are there any decent CD burning apps for burning audio besides K3B? (able to decode various codecs and normalize the tracks, etc) |
| 05:23.07 | diana | psychonate: gnomebaker |
| 05:23.11 | HarryL | must have run it in wrong mode or something |
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| 05:23.15 | jts | Help again. |
| 05:23.21 | seven_six_two | psychonate, arson |
| 05:23.23 | jts | gnome is fighting with kde: |
| 05:23.30 | diana | psychonate: apt-cache search audio|grep -i burn |
| 05:23.32 | jts | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-icon-theme_2.8.0-4_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 05:23.33 | jts | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:23.47 | jts | Then it kills. |
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| 05:24.11 | liable | file a bug |
| 05:24.22 | jts | That doesn't help me get my system working. |
| 05:24.33 | Nurbs_ | in the long term it will/might |
| 05:24.42 | Nurbs_ | and consider "apt-get -o dpkg::options::=--force-overwrite install gnome-icon-theme" |
| 05:24.51 | liable | jts: and not filing one doesnt help anybody. |
| 05:25.18 | Nurbs_ | (or dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-icon-theme_2.8.0-4_all.deb) |
| 05:25.42 | psychonate | Does arson have support for normalizing audio tracks? |
| 05:25.51 | jts | Nurbs_: the first one worked. |
| 05:26.04 | XxX | who is dreamweaver for linuxx???? |
| 05:26.14 | jts | ...what? |
| 05:26.21 | liable | XxX: take a look at nvu |
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| 05:26.55 | HarryL | is rpm compatible with apt? |
| 05:27.15 | jeg_ | XxX: nvu, if you like that sort of thing |
| 05:27.19 | mfrisch | HarryL on RH |
| 05:27.37 | hytt | HarryL> apt-get for rpm exist for mandrake/redhat |
| 05:27.42 | seven_six_two | psychonate, I don't think so. thats why i use k3b |
| 05:27.48 | HarryL | used to be, saw a deselected package rpm |
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| 05:28.07 | XxX | thank |
| 05:28.14 | psychonate | seven_six_two, I don't see K3B in Testing any longer |
| 05:28.22 | diana | When I go to grub, hit e on my kernel, e again where the "kernel*" line is..theen add single to the end of that line, enter then b no that line... |
| 05:28.28 | diana | It dooesn't boot into single user mode. |
| 05:28.28 | HarryL | first attempt at debian was over RH |
| 05:28.29 | seven_six_two | psychonate, why don't you just build it? |
| 05:28.30 | diana | Why not? |
| 05:28.58 | diana | HarryL: Why would you use rpm? |
| 05:29.08 | diana | HarryL: What package are you trying to install? |
| 05:29.27 | psychonate | I'd rather have something like that under the package management system if possible |
| 05:29.29 | HarryL | this install seems cleaner, but I saw that package mentioned in message |
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| 05:30.00 | HarryL | I'd like to get sound alsa working |
| 05:30.11 | psychonate | arson has normalize I think, but can't read playlist files for burning audio CDs; gnomebaker can read play list files but doesn't support normalizing as far as I can tell lol |
| 05:30.15 | psychonate | oh well |
| 05:30.35 | diana | HarryL: as root type apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 05:30.40 | diana | HarryL: then type alsaconf |
| 05:30.40 | HarryL | got it |
| 05:30.43 | mfrisch | HarryL apt-get install alsa-base |
| 05:30.45 | HarryL | did it |
| 05:30.47 | psychonate | I need sleep anyway. I guess I'll play with it tomorrow |
| 05:30.59 | HarryL | needs modules built |
| 05:31.07 | diana | HarryL: What soundcard do you have? |
| 05:31.17 | HarryL | ymf744 ymfpci.o |
| 05:31.19 | seven_six_two | psychonate, so would i, but if it's not there, you can either go to unstable or build. I use testing though, and have k3b |
| 05:31.29 | seven_six_two | maybe it was removed later |
| 05:32.39 | seven_six_two | psychonate, as far as i can tell, it's still i etch... |
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| 05:32.53 | jeg_ | i've got urls to both stable and testing in /etc/apt/sources.list. i've set APT::Default Release "testing" in /etc/apt/apt.conf. does this mean that when i apt-get install now, it will install testing packages unless i tell it otherwise? |
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| 05:33.41 | jeg_ | (note: i meant unstable instead of stable in the above question) |
| 05:34.07 | Miesco | Where can I get classical music? |
| 05:34.12 | Miesco | Or, what can I use to get it |
| 05:34.16 | Nurbs_ | jeg_: try it? :) you can check with "apt-cache policy foo" nicely, too |
| 05:34.19 | HarryL | limewire |
| 05:34.29 | mfrisch | Miesco streamtuner is you friend |
| 05:34.32 | seven_six_two | Miesco, amuse |
| 05:34.36 | seven_six_two | amule |
| 05:34.59 | Miesco | I dont like limewire cause it has a section to search for adult |
| 05:35.15 | pureone | :O |
| 05:35.18 | HarryL | good choice |
| 05:35.19 | seven_six_two | overnet |
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| 05:35.39 | HarryL | needs java too |
| 05:35.45 | jeg_ | Nurbs_: apt-cache policy <pkgname> gives me testing higher numbered than unstable... i suppose this means it has some sort of install priority? |
| 05:35.53 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Does amule have a package? |
| 05:35.56 | mfrisch | azuerus |
| 05:36.02 | seven_six_two | Miesco, in etch it does |
| 05:36.18 | jeg_ | Nurbs_: desperately trying to avoid RTFM ;) |
| 05:36.50 | Nurbs_ | jeg_: apt_preferences(5) |
| 05:36.53 | Nurbs_ | :o) |
| 05:36.56 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Does amule show a bunch of sex servers? |
| 05:37.24 | mfrisch | Miesco SEX is EVERYWHERE! |
| 05:37.30 | seven_six_two | Miesco, well, it's a donkey client, so it searches all servers for whatever you're searching for |
| 05:37.38 | Nurbs_ | mfrisch: that'd be fine with me... :) |
| 05:38.01 | seven_six_two | I don't filter tho. I like PR0N |
| 05:38.50 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Can you tell me how many results you get from 'Tarrega' |
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| 05:39.15 | seven_six_two | w8 |
| 05:40.22 | seven_six_two | Miesco, it'll take me a minute to count them. theres a few |
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| 05:41.52 | seven_six_two | Miesco, once the search is done i'll count for ya |
| 05:41.58 | Miesco | K |
| 05:42.14 | dvsdude | Miesco: this is debian help not p2p you've been down this road with us before...looking for non adult content p2p sharing |
| 05:42.41 | mfrisch | Miesco you want dansguardian to block, but everything needs to go through proxy. |
| 05:42.50 | Miesco | dvsdude: Well no one else is talking |
| 05:43.03 | Miesco | mfrisch: dansguardian? |
| 05:43.06 | seven_six_two | Miesco, 116 |
| 05:43.21 | valdyn | dvsdude: beside that, google is about 10000000 more competent in that matter than us ;) |
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| 05:43.32 | mfrisch | Miesco squid add-on will block and block. |
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| 05:44.48 | HarryL | just did find / -name ymfpci.o and it is there |
| 05:45.00 | Miesco | seven_six_two: squid? |
| 05:45.00 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Sorry |
| 05:45.03 | Miesco | mfrisch: Squid? |
| 05:45.06 | chris__ | hello |
| 05:45.19 | seven_six_two | Miesco, besides,every time you download a song illegally, god kills a kitten |
| 05:45.54 | Nurbs | yummy |
| 05:46.05 | mfrisch | Miesco it is a http proxy..the trick is getting p2p to work. |
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| 05:46.22 | HarryL | ymfpci.o is there, but what else should I search to get alsa working? |
| 05:46.32 | mfrisch | seven_six_two grip your own .flac! |
| 05:46.41 | valdyn | HarryL: ymfpci.o is not an alsa module. |
| 05:46.49 | HarryL | huh? |
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| 05:47.18 | seven_six_two | mfrisch, lol |
| 05:47.26 | HarryL | which alsa module for ymf744? |
| 05:47.32 | seven_six_two | common source |
| 05:48.24 | valdyn | HarryL: http://www.alsa-project.org/ has a searchable database for that purpose, in general all alsa modules begin with 'snd' |
| 05:48.37 | HarryL | ok it has the source needed to build the ymf744 |
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| 05:49.24 | HarryL | going to alsa link thanks |
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| 05:49.53 | Dewi | what's the command for "echo" but for stderr? |
| 05:49.57 | hytt | HarryL> you tried alsaconf ? |
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| 05:51.16 | diana | whenever I boot my system...I have to login as root and dhclient eth0...how can I have my network be autosetup on boot? |
| 05:51.55 | mfrisch | diana /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:51.56 | hytt | diana> /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:52.40 | hytt | auto eth0 |
| 05:52.40 | hytt | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 05:52.47 | HarryL | searched for snd-* and like I thought need to build the modules |
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| 05:52.59 | willouch | hi |
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| 05:53.15 | willouch | my system swap why? |
| 05:53.26 | mfrisch | hum |
| 05:53.43 | seven_six_two | bonjour ma petite grenouille |
| 05:53.51 | willouch | salut |
| 05:53.52 | diana | http://pastebin.com/417933 |
| 05:53.54 | valdyn | !swap |
| 05:53.54 | dpkg | hmm... swap is still a useful and good thing to have, even with lots of available memory: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 05:53.58 | diana | That is my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:54.06 | diana | What is wrong witht it mfrisch / hytt? |
| 05:54.22 | hytt | diana> you want a static IP or dhcp? |
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| 05:54.29 | diana | hytt: dhcp |
| 05:54.45 | hytt | ony this |
| 05:55.14 | dvsdude | diana, diana: should be auto not dhcp |
| 05:55.45 | diana | dvsdude: On that last line? |
| 05:55.48 | diana | k, thanks a lot |
| 05:55.48 | valdyn | willouch: how are we supposed to know? |
| 05:55.51 | diana | I appreciate the help. |
| 05:56.22 | dvsdude | diana, http://pastebin.com/417937 |
| 05:57.07 | dvsdude | diana, check this it works for me http://pastebin.com/417937 |
| 05:57.31 | dvsdude | diana, not the auto eth0 which u missing |
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| 05:57.58 | seven_six_two | willouch, what do you mean? Que voulez-vous dire? |
| 05:58.10 | willouch | #dvsdude I don't know, but perhaps you know command for have what is swaping |
| 05:58.35 | valdyn | !fr |
| 05:58.36 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 05:58.47 | hytt | diana> erplace your "auto lo" to "auto lo eth0" |
| 05:58.49 | dvsdude | willouch, ?? |
| 05:58.53 | hytt | replace |
| 06:00.09 | seven_six_two | willouch, l'échange est pour le moment où vous manquez de mémoire |
| 06:00.14 | Paivakil | is script running dpkg the bot available anywhere? |
| 06:00.39 | XxX | xara 3s is for linux ????????? |
| 06:00.46 | valdyn | !info blootbot |
| 06:00.48 | willouch | 1Go ? |
| 06:00.50 | dpkg | blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-4 (sid), Packaged size: 243 kB, Installed size: 857 kB |
| 06:00.57 | valdyn | Paivakil: ^^^ |
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| 06:01.34 | nimak | this is kinda wierd, when i plug in my pcmcia wifi card, the computer beeps, but dmesg doesnt do show anything, i have the pcmcia module loaded |
| 06:01.46 | Paivakil | ah |
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| 06:02.30 | nimak | is pcmcia_cs supposed to exist? |
| 06:02.31 | XxX | xara 3D is for linux ????????? |
| 06:03.00 | warty | nimak: do you have /etc/init.d/pcmcia, and was it started? |
| 06:03.02 | Miesco | I have to get wxWidgets for aMule :/ |
| 06:03.09 | seven_six_two | willouch, si vous parlez français, vous devez aller à #debian-fr |
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| 06:03.24 | seven_six_two | Miesco, yes i think you do. that's a prob? |
| 06:03.34 | willouch | yes iI go thkx |
| 06:03.35 | Miesco | seven_six_two: No :) |
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| 06:03.43 | valdyn | Miesco: why dont you use the debian package(s) ? |
| 06:03.54 | Miesco | valdyn: Its not in the debian packages |
| 06:03.58 | seven_six_two | Miesco, they're listen in apt for me |
| 06:04.06 | valdyn | !info amule sarge |
| 06:04.22 | Miesco | !info wxWidgets sarge |
| 06:04.27 | seven_six_two | I don't think it was in sarge tho. i use etch |
| 06:04.37 | valdyn | Miesco: true, just in sid, probably in testing |
| 06:04.51 | seven_six_two | sid & etch |
| 06:04.56 | nimak | warty, doing /etc/init.d/pcmcia start says that "cardmgr is already running" |
| 06:04.57 | valdyn | Miesco: the package isnt called wxwidgets |
| 06:05.26 | Miesco | valdyn: Is wxwidgets in the sarge packages? |
| 06:05.52 | valdyn | Miesco: yea, but not sure you can build amule against these, i'd try though |
| 06:06.04 | seven_six_two | wxgtk |
| 06:06.05 | valdyn | Miesco: apt-cache search libwx |
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| 06:06.34 | diana | How can I reset my /etc/network/interfaces file to it's default settings? |
| 06:06.46 | diana | when I reboot my network isn't auto setup with dhcp |
| 06:06.47 | valdyn | !info libwxgtk2.2-dev sarge |
| 06:07.18 | valdyn | !info libwxgtk2.4-dev sarge |
| 06:07.20 | seven_six_two | valdyn is the man with the ! mastery |
| 06:07.22 | dpkg | libwxgtk2.4-dev: (wxWindows Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.4.3.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2298 kB, Installed size: 8400 kB |
| 06:07.34 | diana | I have to manually type dhclient eth0 if order for my network to work. |
| 06:07.39 | diana | How can I have that auto done at boot? |
| 06:07.55 | Nurbs | diana: man interfaces |
| 06:08.18 | warty | diana: that hotplug line looks obnoxious to me |
| 06:08.26 | Nurbs | or use etherconf |
| 06:08.28 | warty | maybe i'm just behind the times... |
| 06:08.43 | Miesco | valdyn: Hurray |
| 06:09.14 | Miesco | rm -r /usr/local/src/wxWidgets* |
| 06:09.36 | seven_six_two | valdyn, do you have a ! for lesbian linux? |
| 06:09.54 | valdyn | !listkeys lesbian |
| 06:09.56 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'lesbian' by key (4): lesbian gnu/linux ;; lesbian ;; lesbians ;; lesbian linux. |
| 06:10.04 | valdyn | !lesbian linux |
| 06:10.04 | dpkg | somebody said lesbian linux was a sexually active UNIX with new pr0n-get powers. Now you can get a stiffie in more ways than one! |
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| 06:11.05 | dondelelcaro | valdyn: use /msg please. |
| 06:11.35 | valdyn | dondelelcaro: yea, but this was supposed to have some educational value ;) |
| 06:12.22 | jts | what's a good frontend sound mixing program? |
| 06:12.26 | jts | to control my volume and such. |
| 06:12.52 | hytt | alsamixergui |
| 06:12.56 | hytt | :p |
| 06:13.11 | Miesco | hytt: No |
| 06:13.54 | Miesco | GNOME alsamixer |
| 06:14.04 | jts | "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" |
| 06:14.38 | Miesco | jts: Do you have alsa |
| 06:14.47 | jts | Probably. |
| 06:14.52 | jts | Cause it's onboard sound. |
| 06:15.11 | Miesco | jts: whereis alsaconf |
| 06:15.13 | seven_six_two | valdyn, sweet. You ARE the master of ! |
| 06:15.25 | jts | root@amd:/etc/apt# whereis alsaconf |
| 06:15.25 | jts | alsaconf: |
| 06:15.30 | jts | Negatory. |
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| 06:15.42 | Miesco | jts: apt-get install alsaconf |
| 06:16.12 | Miesco | jts: Also get the modules, there in a package, apt-cache search alsa |
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| 06:16.39 | jts | dear lord |
| 06:16.41 | rohal | please suggest a windows maanger as an alternative for kde or gnome....should be fast, flexible, easy to use, & should look good too...speed being the top priority & i prefer kde over gnome & will be using kde apps too...if that matters??? |
| 06:16.46 | jts | there's 8082392893 diff modules packages. |
| 06:16.47 | warty | xfce |
| 06:16.50 | jts | i have to think what processor this is |
| 06:16.54 | jts | it's a duron |
| 06:16.54 | seven_six_two | no more coffee...must nice -10 myself |
| 06:17.13 | jts | alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386 - ALSA driver modules |
| 06:17.17 | jts | esiy |
| 06:17.19 | jts | wait |
| 06:17.22 | jts | 686 |
| 06:17.22 | jts | lol |
| 06:18.15 | Miesco | seven_six_two: I updated the server list for amule, ALL I SEE IS SEX |
| 06:18.31 | jts | Miesco: What's wrong with seeing sex? |
| 06:18.35 | jts | Is it old people sex? |
| 06:18.38 | jts | or animal sex? |
| 06:18.42 | jts | Cause that'd be bad sex to see... |
| 06:19.25 | seven_six_two | Miesco, it'll search all of them. just make sure you have sonnyboy and razorback |
| 06:19.28 | Miesco | jts: Well if I had to see sex I would want to see old people and animal sex |
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| 06:19.50 | seven_six_two | or get overnet |
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| 06:20.03 | Miesco | seven_six_two: sonnyboy? |
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| 06:20.14 | seven_six_two | Miesco, servers. |
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| 06:20.27 | seven_six_two | Miesco, or go for overnet. it's decentrqalized |
| 06:20.40 | Nihilanth | is the version of xfs (filesystem) that sarge ships with compatiable with GRUB? |
| 06:20.53 | Miesco | seven_six_two: How do I delete the server: SEXTEENSERVER>COM |
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| 06:21.31 | HarryL | thanks alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386 is what was missing |
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| 06:21.52 | seven_six_two | Miesco, i don't know. i don't bother with that, cuz pr0n servers don't have only pr0N. i WANT THE MOST SERVERS POSSIBLE |
| 06:22.02 | seven_six_two | sorry caps |
| 06:22.17 | salahuddin | hello all |
| 06:22.26 | jts | Miesco: alsa didn't work properly I don't think |
| 06:22.35 | seven_six_two | Miesco, will you get arrested for listing porn? |
| 06:22.37 | salahuddin | i need a help to create gpg key to join as a debian newmaintainer |
| 06:23.18 | Miesco | seven_six_two: No, im a christian |
| 06:23.18 | jts | Miesco: I have no drivers compatible with alsa. That's the problem. |
| 06:23.24 | Nihilanth | is installing grub in the MBR just a matter of installing it via apt? or do i need to take further steps? |
| 06:23.36 | Miesco | jts: Did you run alsaconf? |
| 06:23.40 | jts | yes |
| 06:23.45 | seven_six_two | Miesco, then don't double click on any search results that say dp or 2 on 1 |
| 06:23.55 | jts | It didn't find PnP or PCI, and no legacy drivers |
| 06:23.56 | salahuddin | i have create a gpg for my salahuddin.debian@some.com but the salauddin66@someting is my main add so should i add it as uid here |
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| 06:24.35 | seven_six_two | Miesco, or you can try a novel approach, and Buy Music From The Stores |
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| 06:25.05 | ruser | is it possible to dump list of all software installed on a machine? via apt-get ? |
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| 06:25.48 | beleys | Yop |
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| 06:26.40 | seven_six_two | Miesco, Amazon.com has a good selection. or barnesandnoble |
| 06:26.43 | Miesco | jts: Did you get the alsa modules? |
| 06:27.05 | Miesco | seven_six_two: I already bought a CD from amazon |
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| 06:28.00 | Miesco | amule: You are not connect to a server |
| 06:28.01 | HarryL | does atapi mode for xcdroast really work? |
| 06:28.06 | Miesco | It does that when I try to search |
| 06:28.18 | Miesco | Wait, nvm |
| 06:28.28 | seven_six_two | double click on a server in the serverlist. or rtfm |
| 06:28.39 | calljair | I have debian, guys and I am trying to host sites php, or a form php, with html. I already install and configure apache, php4, and mysql |
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| 06:29.42 | curt | when you do mount --bind, is that going to be reset if you reboot? |
| 06:29.46 | calljair | I think the line I have to change is the 788 the one that have: addtype bla bla php, etc.. |
| 06:30.04 | Miesco | seven_six_two: This has a billion times more stuff then limewire |
| 06:30.33 | seven_six_two | Miesco, yes I know. that's why i use it. you have to leave it on for a long time to get what you want though |
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| 06:30.46 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Is there a console interface client? |
| 06:31.10 | seven_six_two | not sure. I think there is a web based interface |
| 06:31.24 | calljair | do i have to uncomment both lines? and add html, php, xhtml, etc... #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 06:31.24 | calljair | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.37 | seven_six_two | if you want all the extras, go for overnet. it's a good program. |
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| 06:31.46 | calljair | I know is an apache issue, but it is on Debian. :) |
| 06:32.52 | Miesco | seven_six_two: Doesn't that cost money? |
| 06:33.00 | seven_six_two | not as far as i know |
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| 06:34.31 | curt | I did mount --bind olddir newdir, to gather some scattered directories together for ftpd, are they going to say mounted if I crash or reboot? |
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| 06:34.42 | valdyn | curt: nope |
| 06:34.56 | HarryL | what was that gui for amixer? |
| 06:35.11 | seven_six_two | Miesco, oh maybe it does now. you can get the edonkey client and controller for free though |
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| 06:35.35 | seven_six_two | that'll give you cli and web based interface |
| 06:35.43 | HarryL | i'll figure it out |
| 06:35.45 | curt | valdyn, how do I add them to the cue to get mounted at startup |
| 06:36.11 | Nurbs | curt: use your fstab, put bind in the options |
| 06:36.20 | seven_six_two | sleepytime now. good luck with that |
| 06:36.32 | curt | !fstab |
| 06:36.33 | dpkg | somebody said fstab was a file that lets the `mount' command know what mountable things (partitions, drives, etc) are in your system. Try `man 5 fstab` for more information on it. |
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| 06:36.48 | nimak | how do i get vino to work with 24 bpp? |
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| 06:37.10 | nimak | vncviewer wont let me |
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| 06:39.05 | ruser | is it possible to dump list of all packages installed on a system? |
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| 06:40.57 | nemontemi | i want to know it too ! |
| 06:41.20 | nimak | it would be usefull |
| 06:41.41 | Paivakil | ruser: dpkg -l |grep ii; but other means too are available |
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| 06:43.22 | maatttt | `dpkg --get-selections | grep installed` may work |
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| 06:49.17 | blockd | aptitude search '~i' should also work, or browse with kpackage or aptitude without args |
| 06:50.01 | ruser | thanks |
| 06:50.32 | ruser | blockd well, i wanna perform a snapshot of how things are at current state, and perhaps clone somewhat similar machine :) |
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| 06:52.29 | ruser | maatttt should be |grep -v deinstall|grep install, but yeah i got the idea, thanks |
| 06:53.36 | blockd | ruser: I think there's an example in the dpkg man page that does exactly what you want |
| 06:53.38 | ruser | Paivakil and yes, that works too, thanks :) |
| 06:54.04 | blockd | dpkg --get-selections >myselections; dpkg --set-selections <myselections |
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| 06:54.52 | blockd | then you still need to use dselect as the man page states... |
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| 06:55.29 | HarryL | its beeuuuuuuutifuuuuuul alsa sounds perfect, thanks |
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| 06:57.08 | ruser | blockd stange, i can't seem to find in the man page the example you are proposing |
| 06:57.29 | ruser | nvm |
| 06:57.31 | ruser | foudn it |
| 06:58.01 | ruser | blockd but, tehy a re saying that dselect is actually usefull for changing the status of packages |
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| 06:58.10 | HarryL | all it needed was the stupid modules but apt-get alsa-modules says alsa-base is what needed until specify alsa-modules-2.4... |
| 06:58.38 | HarryL | is that the way apt-get handles any thing needing modules? |
| 06:59.28 | blockd | ruser: right, afaik you need to use dselect (or whatever else) to actually download anything. The dpkg --set-select just marks them for installation. |
| 06:59.55 | blockd | *--set-selections, rather |
| 07:00.08 | ruser | blockd yeah, well, atm, i was interested in just grabbing the pacakge list :) |
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| 07:05.17 | dj_ryan | does anyone know what "lupii" is and why its listening to port https, http and 7111 ? |
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| 07:06.15 | ruser | dj_ryan try looking up more info on a process by lsop -p "pid of the lupii here" |
| 07:06.23 | dj_ryan | ruied: my debian box has been remote sploited and this is one of the indications i have of something wrong - a tiger auding reporting telling me process 'luppi' run by www-data is listening to 332,80 and 7111 |
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| 07:06.55 | ShowerPower | anybody install xorg sarge yet? How much brain damage is it to get it configured? |
| 07:06.59 | dj_ryan | i can't remotely login anymore, the box doesnt ping, but its behind a BSD firewall which says its sending otu tons of TCP SYNs to sequential hosts port 80. |
| 07:07.19 | ruser | dj_ryan i suggest you take your box offline |
| 07:07.22 | dj_ryan | and im about 200 miles from the box right now, so using the console is not an option :-) |
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| 07:07.33 | dj_ryan | i've firewalled it offline, so it can no longer talk to the world. |
| 07:07.46 | ruser | dj_ryan oh, well, what kernel do you have btw? |
| 07:07.52 | dj_ryan | while its still physically cabled, it is cut off by the OpenBSD |
| 07:08.00 | dj_ryan | I believe its a 2.4 series, i forget which pt release. |
| 07:08.20 | dj_ryan | also I think its an apache2 remote sploit b/c the process is being run by www-user according to the auding report |
| 07:08.31 | calljair | could I mount a external directory on debian? |
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| 07:08.43 | ruser | dj_ryan uhm... that's rather bad. do `uname -a` and yes usually www-user is indicaiotn of that |
| 07:08.44 | calljair | I mean let say I have two debian systems |
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| 07:09.08 | calljair | could I tell one system to use a directory to save something from the other debian? |
| 07:09.09 | ruser | !tell calljair about nfs |
| 07:09.10 | dj_ryan | ruser: i know how to figure out which kernel, but like i said i dont have login access to the box. |
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| 07:09.41 | dj_ryan | i thought i'd poke in since my machien is a debian box, and i wondered if anyone knew of this particular thing. |
| 07:09.47 | calljair | ruser, ok that is the only way using NFS or samba will be the other one right? |
| 07:10.27 | ruser | calljair samba is quote often used for linux <-> windows hosts. if you wokring form kde, and need jsut opening file from the other machine try fish |
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| 07:10.58 | ruser | dj_ryan if you don't have login access to box, then there isn't much you can do, right? |
| 07:11.11 | dj_ryan | not really. |
| 07:11.17 | calljair | ruser, actually it is ok use nfs, I will be testing a package call dirvish to make automated backups |
| 07:11.30 | ruser | dj_ryan it can be anything from cgi/php scirpts, to an apcahe exploit |
| 07:11.34 | dj_ryan | i did the best i can which is to prevent it from talking to anyone else via my NAT/firewall, but until I get home I won't be able to discecct it. |
| 07:11.49 | dj_ryan | it has to be an apache exploit, b/c its killed the apache process and replaced it with itself. |
| 07:11.59 | dj_ryan | normally its apache2 listening to port 80,443, not process 'lupii' |
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| 07:12.20 | zOrK | i |
| 07:12.23 | ruser | mm, usaully apache initial thread run as root, so if it killed it, they've got to have something more then this, no? |
| 07:12.33 | ruser | now i'm jsut theorizing |
| 07:12.42 | zOrK | yeah, like an a backdoor |
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| 07:13.28 | dj_ryan | hmm good point |
| 07:13.31 | linlin | Hi when I installed the X server, It asked me a series of questions about screen resolution etc. I misconfigured some of that. Is there any way I can re-run that program to set it up again? |
| 07:13.46 | dj_ryan | so we have a process run as non-root binding to port 80, which seems interesting. |
| 07:13.54 | dj_ryan | i look forward to disccesting the thing when i get home. |
| 07:14.07 | dj_ryan | oh and the box runs mythtv, and apparently the mythtv UI and system is fully functional. |
| 07:14.13 | ruser | calljair try looking at their website, imo it uses rsync |
| 07:14.22 | blockd | linlin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 I believe. |
| 07:14.32 | dj_ryan | ok fsck it, its not like im fixing this now, forget it for now. |
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| 07:15.37 | ruser | dj_ryan yes, also it binded to port 80, i belive you are in big trouble, also fi its 2.4.x kernel, there are a lot of lkm rootkits. so i suggest you take a separate snapshot of the box, before you pull it down, and then investigate on an image |
| 07:15.44 | mrverbos1 | hi, i want to install k3b, however it doesnt seem to be in the repository, is that correct? |
| 07:16.26 | ruser | !tell linlin about reconfigure x |
| 07:16.36 | dj_ryan | ok |
| 07:16.39 | dj_ryan | this will be 'fun' |
| 07:16.44 | valdyn | !drxx linlin |
| 07:16.46 | dj_ryan | since the machine has 500 GB of storage attached to it |
| 07:16.48 | dpkg | linlin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:16.52 | dj_ryan | i'd like to see you back that up :-) |
| 07:16.52 | blockd | mrverbos1: I installed k3b just fine |
| 07:17.23 | mrverbos1 | apt says its not available |
| 07:17.31 | mrverbos1 | are you running unstable or testing? |
| 07:17.40 | blockd | mrverbos1: stable |
| 07:17.46 | dj_ryan | ruser: since its a debian box i can use the md5 sums from package infos to discover what is original and what is not thankfully. |
| 07:18.02 | ruser | dj_ryan well, i hope you keep the user data, separetly from the rest. |
| 07:18.15 | valdyn | dj_ryan: unless the perpetrator adjusted these too |
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| 07:18.36 | blockd | mrverbos1: my non-security source is 'deb http://..../debian stable main contrib non-free' |
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| 07:19.03 | blockd | I had to change a few things to get k3b to work well with the 2.4 kernel though |
| 07:19.10 | dj_ryan | valdyn, yes i am aware of that, and i will overcome that as well. |
| 07:19.31 | dj_ryan | ruser: no, i have 1 raid1 partition for / and one 380 gb disk for mythtv |
| 07:19.33 | blockd | for one thing append ide-scsi at boot time, or else the ata interface doesn't seem to use DMA |
| 07:19.39 | tvn | http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/ <- is this just me or this website doesn't work on Debian + ff 1.0.7 + flash 7.0.25 plugin (cannot enter tex) |
| 07:20.29 | dj_ryan | it might be finally time to rebuild this box from the ground up |
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| 07:20.37 | tvn | the Mandrake/Gentoo people say works fine with their firefox + flash plugin |
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| 07:20.50 | dj_ryan | its been incrementally upgraded for about 8 years now. |
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| 07:21.47 | nok | how to create kernel-header pkg for debian shipped linux-image-2.6.12 and above? |
| 07:22.00 | bonz | silly question I know but I'll ask it anyway, Is the au debian mirror broken? |
| 07:22.42 | mrverbos1 | blockd: k3b is still not available |
| 07:22.52 | blockd | could it be your mirror then? |
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| 07:23.06 | mrverbos1 | deb ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 07:23.06 | mrverbos1 | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
| 07:23.06 | mrverbos1 | deb-src ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 07:23.15 | mrverbos1 | that is my sources.list |
| 07:23.25 | zOrK | sources.lst u mean :P |
| 07:23.29 | mrverbos1 | yes |
| 07:23.29 | bonz | arrgh fludduh |
| 07:23.30 | takatumi | nok: apt-cache search linux-headers |
| 07:23.48 | zOrK | or : apt-cache search kernel-headers |
| 07:23.55 | mrverbos1 | hm |
| 07:23.56 | ruser | is 2.6.12 kernel in packages? |
| 07:24.07 | zOrK | no at testing |
| 07:24.17 | zOrK | u need compile u're own kernel |
| 07:24.22 | zOrK | of 2.6.12 |
| 07:24.23 | ruser | figured |
| 07:24.25 | nok | i can find kernel images but no headers for 2.6.12 and above |
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| 07:25.36 | bonz | nok: hardly suprising given 2.6 aint considered stable yet :) |
| 07:25.55 | blockd | mrverbos1: if ever in doubt, you could always search at http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 07:26.04 | bonz | I think .13 was a borked kernel too from memory |
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| 07:26.35 | mrverbos1 | blockd: the thing is its not even found by apt-cache |
| 07:26.44 | mrverbos1 | only k3b-i18n |
| 07:26.51 | mrverbos1 | and those are only language files |
| 07:27.15 | blockd | well I use k3b all the time. It's there but maybe not at your mirror apparently. |
| 07:27.43 | blockd | try 'deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian stable main contrib non-free' |
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| 07:27.58 | Nurbs | !info k3b etch |
| 07:28.21 | blockd | it's geographically distant for you, but it works for me. |
| 07:28.35 | mrverbos1 | !info k3b etch |
| 07:28.56 | usn | good mornin' |
| 07:29.54 | Nurbs | no k3b in testing right now, nope. |
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| 07:30.25 | Nurbs | mhm, what might have caused it to be removed? where can one look that up? |
| 07:30.44 | valdyn | nok: if images are there , then headers are too |
| 07:30.47 | tvn | http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/ <- is this just me or this website doesn't work on Debian + ff 1.0.7 + flash 7.0.25 plugin (cannot enter tex) |
| 07:32.07 | valdyn | tvn: it works for me |
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| 07:32.55 | tvn | it doesn't work on both of my debian box (Sarge) |
| 07:33.06 | valdyn | tvn: and this site doesnt use flash |
| 07:33.33 | tvn | valdyn: it does ... you don't see flash ? |
| 07:33.43 | nok | valdyn: I have found them, thank everyone |
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| 07:34.09 | takatumi | valdyn: sure it does. |
| 07:34.11 | valdyn | tvn: im looking at a map of new york, and i dont even have flash |
| 07:34.13 | ruser | tvn works fine here |
| 07:34.41 | tvn | valdyn: if you don't have flash it's properly shift back to its current map , the beta one uses flash |
| 07:34.43 | typewriter | Hey for my debain server I just installed, why is it tryin to upgrade things like `xfree86-common` ? |
| 07:34.51 | valdyn | tvn: ah, that might be |
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| 07:34.58 | typewriter | why do I even have X librarys |
| 07:35.02 | typewriter | this is a headless server... |
| 07:35.04 | valdyn | tvn: ok, gonna try with flash |
| 07:35.25 | tvn | ruser: it seems like I cannot see any text properly on the left side |
| 07:35.43 | bonz | typewriter: obviously you installed somethin that needs them |
| 07:36.00 | typewriter | is there a quick way to find out what |
| 07:36.02 | Nurbs | typewriter: lots of apps come with X support, like emacs21 (not emacs21-nox, though) and even on a headless server you can still use X forwarding or similar |
| 07:36.24 | wobbler | yvn: it works fine here and it does use flash |
| 07:36.27 | Nurbs | typewriter: apt-get remove xfree86-common will show you :o) |
| 07:36.39 | typewriter | my system is only using 90Mb right now, if I do "apt-get upgrade" itll grow to 200Mb+ |
| 07:36.45 | tvn | wobbler: you can enter text fine on the left boxes ? |
| 07:36.49 | bonz | or dpkg --purge xfree86-common |
| 07:36.49 | typewriter | so obviously I don't have some of these packages its trying to upgrade :/ |
| 07:37.06 | wobbler | let me see |
| 07:37.51 | wobbler | tvn: yep text works ok |
| 07:38.20 | valdyn | tvn: oh well, im getting redirected to maps.yahoo.com. |
| 07:38.58 | takatumi | tvn: text input doesn't work here with ff or opera, it's beta, let 'em fix it. |
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| 07:39.11 | typewriter | Awesome |
| 07:39.23 | typewriter | It's removing xfree86-common and all its dependencies |
| 07:39.30 | tvn | takatumi: no it just seem only happen on Debian (I checked with the Mandrake and Gentoo channel they all say it works fine) |
| 07:39.44 | wobbler | tvn: im running mozilla here |
| 07:40.02 | tvn | wobbler: can you try with firefox ? |
| 07:40.06 | valdyn | tvn: it wont let me use the beta maps, maybe its limited to american IPs or whatever |
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| 07:40.24 | wobbler | sorry i dont use firefox |
| 07:40.28 | tvn | valdyn: perhaps ... weird ... |
| 07:40.44 | wobbler | never had good luck with firefox |
| 07:42.14 | tvn | I can't enter any text even with mozilla (1.7) |
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| 07:42.25 | dorto | that's true; mozilla is much more stable |
| 07:43.16 | valdyn | tvn: ah, finally, had not closed one window of the non-flash firefox, now its working alright, i can enter text |
| 07:43.18 | typewriter | i really underestimated apt... |
| 07:43.36 | typewriter | show apt is that smart that when you remove a pkg, itll go through the pkg's dependcies and remove stale pkgs too? |
| 07:43.38 | bonz | oh no I feel a browser war about too erupt |
| 07:43.43 | tvn | valdyn: hm ... that's abnormal then since I and takatumi both have the same prob |
| 07:43.49 | typewriter | show=so |
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| 07:44.23 | encompass | isn't there a program that makes ascii are for me? |
| 07:44.37 | encompass | I give it an image and it gives its best guess? |
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| 07:45.53 | valdyn | tvn: debian/sid/i386 - works fine |
| 07:45.59 | wobbler | tvn: it works good in konqueror too! |
| 07:46.23 | valdyn | tvn: Shockwave Flash 7.0 r25 |
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| 07:46.36 | lurker | i can't install my sound card cmi9880, can anyone help me? |
| 07:47.29 | tvn | must have something to do with how the fonts are served I guess ... both of my Sarge boxes have same problem |
| 07:48.07 | blaamann | lurker: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
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| 07:48.53 | wobbler | tvn: the site works well in epiphany to just for your info |
| 07:48.54 | takatumi | tvn: I can see a tiny lil blinking cursor, it's probably to do with the fonts. |
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| 07:49.17 | lurker | i have tried alsaconf but it can't find the device |
| 07:49.56 | blockd | do you have the alsa modules installed? |
| 07:49.56 | tvn | takatumi: yep, same here ... I can't enter any text in any of those input boxes .... |
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| 07:50.57 | lurker | en i think yes, how can i make sure i have alsa modules? |
| 07:51.01 | tvn | oh well, back to google map then |
| 07:51.07 | liable | any tips for a smll rescue distro to put on a usb key? i dont have a floppy and my cdrom has crapped out, so i guess i had better have some sort of way of booting this fucker. |
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| 07:51.38 | blockd | lurker: see what "aptitude ~ialsa" gives you |
| 07:51.58 | blockd | lurker: I mean see what "aptitude show ~ialsa" gives you |
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| 07:53.38 | blockd | lurker: or "search" instead of "show" for something less verbose |
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| 07:56.19 | blockd | lurker: just realized that's a rather long list with just "alsa". I installed alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-686 and it worked for me. |
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| 07:56.54 | blockd | although you might install something else depending on your architecture |
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| 07:57.52 | lurker | but i use kerne-2.6 and there is no alsa-modules-2.6 in deb packages.. |
| 07:58.00 | blockd | shouldn't need them with 2.6 |
| 07:58.13 | grendal_prime | hey how do i use kget to grab all the contents of a dir on the web |
| 07:58.19 | blockd | what does alsactl as root show you? |
| 07:58.23 | grendal_prime | or wget.. basically |
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| 07:59.02 | blockd | bah, I mean alsamixer, sorry... |
| 07:59.05 | lurker | alsactl: Specify command... |
| 07:59.09 | lgd_ | hi all |
| 07:59.22 | lurker | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 07:59.43 | blaamann | grendal_prime: man wget |
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| 08:00.28 | dorto | anyone knows if the source code of sun's j2me library is available? |
| 08:00.36 | dorto | i mean is it Free Software? |
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| 08:01.22 | blaamann | dorto: probably not Free Software |
| 08:01.34 | lurker | and when i cat /dev/sndstat, it shows there is a driver but no sound card |
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| 08:02.38 | blockd | lurker: could this help? http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg13884.html |
| 08:02.51 | dorto | :( |
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| 08:03.15 | blockd | just a quick google search turned that up... you can basically check with /sbin/lsmod |
| 08:03.46 | Paivakil | dorto: most java related products from Sun are not Free; |
| 08:04.10 | blaamann | dorto: This is AFIK the only open source java http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java-linux-d1.html |
| 08:04.28 | dorto | Paivakil: yeah...sdks are certainly not Free Software, but source code of some libs is available...so was just wondering |
| 08:04.40 | lurker | when i lsmod there show no sound module, and i modprobe cmipci adds some but has no effect |
| 08:04.54 | Paivakil | dorto: in that case, you need to go through the license on each file |
| 08:05.20 | dorto | yes, right. |
| 08:05.27 | blaamann | dorto: Kaffe might also be Free Software |
| 08:05.33 | dorto | i will search for license file in the d/l-ed package |
| 08:05.42 | lurker | i didn't know how the module and the driver and all these work |
| 08:05.44 | dorto | kaffe is virtual machine |
| 08:05.55 | dorto | there is Free Software java compiler too |
| 08:06.09 | dorto | i am having problem only with j2me libraries |
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| 08:06.18 | blaamann | dorto: ok |
| 08:06.28 | dorto | GNU Classpath has some j2se libraries but not j2me |
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| 08:07.05 | dorto | my project will not be accepted at savannah without Free j2me libs :'( so searching for it |
| 08:07.08 | blockd | lurker: I'm not an expert either of course :-) Do you have some exotic sound card? And if you haven't been installing other sound modules then maybe somebody else could figure this one out... |
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| 08:07.40 | blaamann | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.49 | lurker | thank you blockd |
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| 08:08.53 | lurker | lspci | grep Audio shows:0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) |
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| 08:11.08 | cjaymes | is there a package that will automatically download updates for me |
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| 08:11.17 | lurker | the problem is like this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ptopic51069.html |
| 08:12.45 | blockd | yeah, a quick google on 82801FB shows you're not alone... |
| 08:13.06 | Dewi | where's that page that details exactly what packages php5 breaks? |
| 08:13.27 | lurker | maybe the chip is somewhat new |
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| 08:16.40 | snadge | is there some kind of boot disk that will enable me to run parted to resize a reiserfs partition? |
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| 08:19.07 | douglas | can i just take a debian kernel 2.4 amd hard drive out of an old box and pop it in a much faster machine with more ram, or will the performance not be so hot as it could |
| 08:19.18 | cheal | Dewi: hum what do you mean? |
| 08:19.50 | Dewi | cheal: I asked about php5 in here the other day and somebody showed me a page with a huge list of packages it impacts |
| 08:20.04 | Dewi | cheal: which is why it's still not in testing after going stable well over a year ago |
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| 08:20.17 | cheal | Dewi: php5 is in testing |
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| 08:20.43 | blockd | snadge: perhaps the latest knoppix? |
| 08:21.01 | cheal | douglas: what do you mean by "amd hard drive"? |
| 08:21.01 | HarryL | hmmm yumm knoppix |
| 08:21.08 | Kerr | ugh.. computer hung because sof2 killed wine, after reboot all the fonts are smaller/thinner.. anyone got an idea why? |
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| 08:21.21 | cheal | cjaymes: did you check cron-apt? |
| 08:21.27 | HarryL | i've had too much wine |
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| 08:22.00 | blockd | snadge: it should have qparted. I'm pretty sure it supports reiserfs - maybe I'm imagining that though |
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| 08:22.02 | HarryL | that little knoppix book costs $40.00 |
| 08:22.03 | Dewi | cheal: I don't think it was the other day |
| 08:22.42 | cheal | Dewi: well, it is since 2 or 3 days :) |
| 08:23.05 | Dewi | cheal: I wonder how easy it is to integrate into sarge |
| 08:24.19 | Dewi | cheal: anyway it's pretty sad that it's not in sarge. Not having any problems with the dotdeb packport yet |
| 08:24.41 | Dewi | except that it doesn't warn me to restart apache when apt adjusts its config |
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| 08:25.03 | HarryL | so far debian beats any other distro I tried - robust |
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| 08:26.14 | HarryL | command line shy need not stay away |
| 08:27.02 | HarryL | take notes when on here |
| 08:27.11 | cheal | Dewi: but sarge has php3 :) |
| 08:27.47 | Dewi | cheal: I have legacy software |
| 08:27.52 | Dewi | cheal: which uses php5 |
| 08:28.05 | Dewi | cheal: personally I'm hoping to concentrate more on java |
| 08:28.23 | HarryL | blackdown and netbeans awesome |
| 08:29.15 | HarryL | 2 not upgraded blackdown and netbeans |
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| 08:30.28 | cheal | "legacy software which uses php5"? that doesn't sound like legacy software to me, but anyway |
| 08:30.56 | SimonRaven | no kidding |
| 08:31.23 | HarryL | late night on #debian very interesting |
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| 08:32.52 | HarryL | now thats a name that says it all |
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| 08:34.21 | HarryL | its just a 2 bit crime of passion |
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| 08:34.38 | HarryL | they never found poor rita |
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| 08:35.08 | Guerin | HarryL: this is not #drunkenrambling |
| 08:35.26 | HarryL | thts what the people like to read about up in amerigo |
| 08:35.33 | liable | where can i find the ram disk size for the 2.6 sarge install kernel? |
| 08:35.53 | HarryL | dang |
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| 08:36.40 | cheal | I hate trying to figure out how to reply to an alioth list without breaking threading using thunderbird |
| 08:36.40 | ilia | hi. are the scripts from packages.debian.org under an open source license, and if so, where can I get them? |
| 08:36.59 | cheal | I think I'll abandon this time |
| 08:37.27 | shit_hits_fan | is it just me, or am i the only one who finds debian easier to install than k/ubuntu? |
| 08:37.31 | cheal | ilia: which scripts, those used to generate packages.d.o pages? |
| 08:38.00 | cheal | shit_hits_fan: probably not |
| 08:38.02 | ilia | cheal: yes |
| 08:38.15 | liable | ilia: wow, that was incredibly vague. congratulations. |
| 08:38.50 | HarryL | i'm drunk and i did it |
| 08:39.02 | hawking | does anyone know the command to change the keyboard language? |
| 08:39.15 | HarryL | base-config |
| 08:39.40 | ilia | liable: I need to generate my own packages.debian.org-like page for my Debian based distribution. |
| 08:39.41 | Paivakil | HarryL: xmodmap? |
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| 08:39.51 | Paivakil | err.. that wat to hawking |
| 08:40.05 | HarryL | ok hold up I might regret it |
| 08:40.15 | liable | Paivakil: erm, no. |
| 08:40.21 | shit_hits_fan | i spend more time removing stuff i don't want in k/ubuntu than manually selecting the ones i want in debian. :) |
| 08:40.57 | Dewi | cheal: it appears to have been written by an idiot, so believe me it's his legacy |
| 08:41.03 | HarryL | alot of hex stuff that might be very useful |
| 08:42.36 | liable | i guess i can just increase it to my liking.. |
| 08:43.12 | Paivakil | hawking: the command is setxkbmap |
| 08:43.51 | hawking | Paivakil : thx |
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| 08:48.46 | TwistedEmotions | If I wanted to install the minimum number of packages to get kde running on a system with no gui... apt-get install xserver-xorg kde gdm? Is that the minimum number of packages? |
| 08:49.08 | Rawplayer | re |
| 08:49.40 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone? |
| 08:49.47 | blockd | shouldn't need gdm... I'm guessing that drags in more GNOME packages.. maybe not though |
| 08:49.50 | blockd | kdm should also work |
| 08:50.11 | TwistedEmotions | ok... thanks |
| 08:50.26 | blockd | then use update-alternatives to use kdm |
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| 08:50.48 | blockd | maybe there's a better debian way to do that... I've mainly used Slackware for my linux career :-) |
| 08:51.17 | blockd | I'm pretty sure that's the way though... |
| 08:51.43 | cheal | !install kde |
| 08:51.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 08:52.01 | djp | can anyone tell me how i go about making backups of directories that have only root access? i have an .aptitude folder that has root permissions in my /home folder and i want it to backup using rsync along with my own files. |
| 08:52.21 | douglas | backing up's for suckers |
| 08:52.24 | TwistedEmotions | cheal: I know about that... but what about xserver-xorg? is that the minimal number of packages? |
| 08:52.37 | blockd | djp: do the backup as root? :-) |
| 08:52.50 | blockd | nm, with rsync... |
| 08:53.56 | blockd | off the top of my head, what if you made another group and only put your user account in it? Then chgrp those folders in your direcotry. |
| 08:54.08 | djp | ok, so i would need to alter my script. how do i do that in order to allow root access? i gather i use sudo but would also need to provide a way to give my password in the script, blockd? |
| 08:54.09 | blockd | Although I'm not sure why you have files belonging to root in your home dir... |
| 08:54.14 | ilia | Can somebody help me? "I need to generate my own packages.debian.org-like page for my Debian based distribution." |
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| 08:55.17 | blockd | I don't want to give dangerous advice since I don't know your setup, but sudo doesn't *need* passwords. |
| 08:55.18 | djp | blockd, the directory in question is .aptitude. |
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| 08:55.30 | blockd | search for NOPASSWD in "man 5 sudoers" |
| 08:55.36 | djp | blockd, ah ok. only when i use the command sudo from the command prompt, it always requests my password... |
| 08:55.52 | djp | ok, cheers blockd |
| 08:55.59 | blockd | oh yeah, and of course use visudo to edit it! :-) |
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| 08:56.07 | djp | sure |
| 08:56.26 | Guerin | NOPASSWD is incredibly stupid 99% of the time |
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| 08:56.35 | Guerin | not to mention unnecessary |
| 08:56.44 | blockd | yes, that's why I said it could be dangerous advice |
| 08:56.52 | djp | blockd, is that correct that .aptitude should create a folder in my /home directory? |
| 08:56.53 | blockd | but if you're set on doing it this way... |
| 08:57.03 | Guerin | djp: yes. |
| 08:57.18 | djp | Guerin, thanks. and it has root privileges? |
| 08:57.36 | djp | Guerin, i run aptitude with the sudo command by the way |
| 08:57.38 | Guerin | if you run aptitude using default sudo, it'll create the file with root privs in the calling user's homedir |
| 08:57.54 | blockd | what about "sudo su -" vs "sudo su"? |
| 08:58.01 | djp | Guerin, thanks. is that the 'correct' way to run aptitude by the way? |
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| 08:58.12 | Guerin | djp: yes and no |
| 08:58.19 | blockd | though I think sudo sets $HOME to /root either way by the looks of it... |
| 08:58.40 | Guerin | djp: if you don't want sudo tofuck with config in your user homedir, put Defaults always_set_home in sudoers |
| 08:58.46 | Guerin | as per the manpage given above |
| 08:59.23 | Guerin | aptitude is not the only package which displays this behavior - nano's history file is another, if you run nano under sudo without the above line |
| 08:59.36 | djp | Guerin, and that would be a better way to run aptitude? |
| 08:59.51 | dclemen | Hi, can anyone help me to restore my system (debian testing). After some issues I get an QM_MUDULES: Function not implemented, when do anything with a module |
| 08:59.51 | deconvolution | hi, how can I add new address book entry of thunderbird to my ldap server, it seems read-only even write-premission allowed |
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| 08:59.54 | Guerin | djp: depends what you're doing. |
| 09:00.04 | Guerin | !qm_modules |
| 09:00.04 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES, or if you are using woody you must upgrade to sarge to use a 2.6 kernel, ask me about woody->sarge |
| 09:00.12 | djp | Guerin, i just use aptitude to install and remove packages |
| 09:00.26 | Guerin | djp: obviously, but that's not what you're trying to do with the script |
| 09:00.33 | dclemen | I can not do anything with dpkg I get Configuration error; unknow option log ; success |
| 09:00.40 | Guerin | djp: there's nothign wrong with using sudo for that |
| 09:00.45 | djp | Guerin, ah no, that is an rsync backup script. sorry. |
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| 09:01.00 | Guerin | djp: oh, ok. |
| 09:01.20 | dclemen | dpkg I have debian testing amd64 |
| 09:01.27 | djp | Guerin, what i want it to do is backup the .aptitude folder, which has root permissions. |
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| 09:01.46 | Guerin | djp: change the permissions to your user's |
| 09:02.01 | dclemen | now I'm in a second partition system and I can chroot other system |
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| 09:02.08 | djp | Guerin, will that not affect aptitude in the future? |
| 09:02.12 | Guerin | djp: and set that line in sudoers to prevent it from being changed again |
| 09:02.17 | dUICE | so whats the smallest size ISO i can dl to just dl and install basic debain, |
| 09:02.25 | djp | Guerin, ah, got you. |
| 09:02.26 | Guerin | djp: no, because root can read it regardless |
| 09:02.37 | Guerin | djp: 32MB or so |
| 09:02.43 | Guerin | dUICE: 32MB or so |
| 09:02.50 | dUICE | is there a link? |
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| 09:02.55 | djp | Guerin, what is the change sorry, is that where you referred to in the man? |
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| 09:02.56 | Guerin | dUICE: topic |
| 09:03.09 | Guerin | djp: Defaults always_set_home; in sudoers |
| 09:03.18 | djp | Guerin, thanks |
| 09:03.20 | Guerin | dclemen: #debian-amd64 |
| 09:03.30 | dclemen | yes Guerin |
| 09:03.42 | dclemen | ok Guerin |
| 09:03.52 | Guerin | three bags full Guerin |
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| 09:04.03 | dclemen | but I think this's not a specific amd64 problem |
| 09:04.15 | dclemen | I'm going to ask there too |
| 09:04.16 | dUICE | so i want to setup a simple mysql/php site server on a PII300, with 64MBram will this work ok for debain |
| 09:04.36 | Guerin | dclemen: it was a problem which was eradicated in i386 debian about six months ago |
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| 09:05.07 | Guerin | dUICE: sure. Could use more ram, but then, any webserver can ALWAYS use more ram. |
| 09:05.28 | dclemen | ok, my problem begins when I try to restore grub (install wxp on a partition), I'm make a mistake an install debian base packages |
| 09:05.43 | dclemen | before that my system was fine |
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| 09:06.10 | dUICE | Guerin: this will be to sart off with, is it hard to learn how to setup with command and no gui? |
| 09:06.32 | Guerin | dUICE: can you read? |
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| 09:07.06 | loukoum | on my network I want to be able to do ssh 'machinename' instead of ssh 'ipaddress' what do you recomend to do ? |
| 09:07.10 | dUICE | yea |
| 09:07.15 | Guerin | dUICE: then you can run debian. |
| 09:07.26 | Guerin | loukoum: read man hosts |
| 09:07.51 | douglas | frickin' awesome |
| 09:07.51 | loukoum | Guerin thanks |
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| 09:11.58 | dclemen | Guerin: Do you know anything about my problem, everybody are sleeping on debian-amd64 |
| 09:12.13 | mrverbos1 | is there a debian package for java sdk? |
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| 09:12.51 | sportman | hey |
| 09:12.55 | sportman | whats a good debian live cd |
| 09:13.02 | sportman | that will mount my external hdd |
| 09:13.07 | sportman | so i can dd my windows install back |
| 09:13.08 | Guerin | dclemen: nope. |
| 09:13.09 | sportman | into place |
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| 09:13.16 | sportman | its ntfs |
| 09:13.18 | Guerin | !enter |
| 09:13.18 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 09:13.42 | dclemen | mrverbos1: if you have no reply try that: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 |
| 09:13.44 | Guerin | sportman: google ultimate boot cd, or damnsmallinux.org |
| 09:13.47 | dclemen | thanks Guerin |
| 09:15.14 | cheal | mrverbos1: did you check free-java-sdk? |
| 09:15.33 | mrverbos1 | cheal: i do not think its a serious alternative |
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| 09:15.55 | mrverbos1 | even if it were twice as good as kaffee it would be far beyond useable |
| 09:16.08 | mrverbos1 | i upgraded my kernel, i need to reboot |
| 09:16.16 | djp | Guerin, trying to make some form of understanding of the man pae for visudo, but to no avail at present. the only entries in my sudoers file are a couple of lines for #user privilege specifications |
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| 09:16.42 | djp | do i just add the always_set_home option after my username? |
| 09:16.52 | blockd | visudo just basically makes sure you don't hose your sudoers file with an error |
| 09:18.37 | djp | for example would i put... foo ALL=(ALL) ALL always_set_home? |
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| 09:19.23 | djp | blockd, so you can edit sudoers without visudo? |
| 09:19.31 | CoffeeBreaks | apt-get install failed, now I have relocation error: /lib/libpthread.so.0: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_2.1 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference.... sounds like a libc6 failure. Any idea? |
| 09:19.31 | blockd | not recommended |
| 09:19.53 | blockd | visudo doesn't need vi(m) etc. |
| 09:19.58 | djp | blockd, is that correct? the above entry that is |
| 09:19.59 | blockd | just export EDITOR or VISUAL |
| 09:20.14 | blockd | then again, you might not really need sudo anyway |
| 09:20.27 | blockd | before I was just correcting your impression that sudo always needs passwords... |
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| 09:21.16 | blockd | and it's 4:20 am where I am so I wouldn't take my own advice right now for something like this :-) |
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| 09:21.43 | djp | blockd, :) |
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| 09:26.09 | CoffeeBreaks | someone knows to recover from a libc6 upgrade failure. Now dpkg tells me that libc6 is not installed... Almost nothing works. |
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| 09:26.19 | djp | Guerin, can you help me out with the always_set_home flag in the sudoers file? i'm stuck! |
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| 09:28.03 | blockd | djp: you could possibly just back up using a cronjob running as root instead... (although that's always subject to forms of attack, depending). But my preference would be to avoid having root's files in my home dir than messing around with sudo or root privs on this. |
| 09:28.48 | blockd | checking quickly, I have an .aptitude folder in my home dir too, but it belongs to my account not root. |
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| 09:30.00 | FarrisG | can anyone recommend a good tool for burn-in? Something CPU/RAM intensive I can let run for 24 hours to make sure my system is stable |
| 09:30.09 | djp | blockd, sure. Guerin was saying that i should change the permissions of my .aptitude folder and then make an entry "Defaults always_set_home" in my sudoers file, so that the permission are not changed each time i run aptitude. |
| 09:30.28 | blockd | FarrisG: compile a kernel... a bunch of times? |
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| 09:30.42 | djp | i think i have sussed the entry, so thing should be "getting there"! ;) |
| 09:30.48 | djp | thanks blockd |
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| 09:32.06 | britespaak | Hi, does the debian installer remove all downloaded packages after installation has finished? |
| 09:32.50 | blockd | britespaak: I don't remember, but "aptitude clean" should do what you want, no? |
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| 09:34.47 | cahoot | britespaak: look if theyr'e left in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 09:35.22 | mymayer | is there any way to get normal r/w access to my NTFS partiotion under debian ? |
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| 09:35.41 | valdyn | !captive |
| 09:35.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, captive is The first kind of free if you squint NTFS read/write filesystem for GNU/Linux. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
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| 09:37.25 | mymayer | valdyn is there a way importing that package for sarge stable ? |
| 09:38.35 | britespaak | cahoot: yeah, they're not there, but I thought they might have been put somewhere else |
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| 09:39.50 | CoffeeBreaks | for the curious I found my issue. I did: cp /lib/libpthread-0.10.so.dpkg-tmp /lib/libpthread-0.10.so and now the utilities seem to work again. |
| 09:41.05 | Guerin | mymayer: read the site |
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| 09:41.31 | Guerin | bboett: it doesn't. |
| 09:41.35 | Guerin | meh |
| 09:41.38 | Guerin | britespaak: it doesn't |
| 09:41.52 | bboett | :D |
| 09:42.20 | Firestarter | anyone here use ditto 2gb backup drive |
| 09:42.35 | Guerin | !anyone use ditto 2gb backup drive |
| 09:42.38 | dpkg | No, no one uses ditto 2gb backup drive, not even the people who use it. |
| 09:42.55 | SimonRaven | now this is a nice change. instead of crashing everything and locking up the kernel, the kernel spits an oops message, exit code, and "... but reboot is needed!". very nice |
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| 09:43.25 | Firestarter | anyon use ftape |
| 09:43.41 | SimonRaven | no |
| 09:44.05 | SimonRaven | stop asking meta-questions, and start telling us what the problem is |
| 09:45.39 | Firestarter | I have an iomega ditto 2gb drive that I am trying to get working with linux using ftape with no luck |
| 09:46.13 | Firestarter | Not sure if I even have ftape setup properly |
| 09:46.43 | SimonRaven | maybe it doesn't use ftape driver? *shrug*. i assume you read some site or other document that told you to use that |
| 09:47.14 | Firestarter | ftape sayes it supports the drive |
| 09:47.21 | SimonRaven | ok |
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| 09:49.12 | mymayer | Guerin is there any way converting Fat32 to a ext3 FS ? |
| 09:49.13 | stew | ok so here is the real question |
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| 09:49.41 | SimonRaven | amazing... first hit: Linux Online - Ftape-HOWTO: Hardware support - www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Ftape-HOWTO-6.html |
| 09:50.03 | stew | nm |
| 09:50.17 | SimonRaven | mymayer: no. you backup the data there, and run mkf.ext3 on the partition |
| 09:50.27 | Guerin | mymayer: sure. back up everything on the fat filesystem, nuke it, reformat, restore backup |
| 09:50.49 | SimonRaven | that's not a conversion ;) |
| 09:52.08 | stew | i have this machine with 8x300gb drives on a 3ware card. do i do stuff like create a raid0 or raid 10 array that i'll never use, just to see how fast my raid card is... |
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| 09:52.48 | stew | hrm |
| 09:53.21 | nok | who are using xfce4=4.2.2, pls tell me where is your menudefs.hook located inside .config or /etc |
| 09:53.50 | Guerin | nok: irrelevant |
| 09:53.57 | mymayer | Guerin is there no other way? My problem is, that its to much data to backup |
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| 09:54.12 | Guerin | nok: if the one in ~ is missing, it'll use the one in /etc |
| 09:54.14 | SimonRaven | ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menudefs.hook; /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menudefs.hook |
| 09:54.16 | nok | Guerin: menudefs.hook is referenced in xfdesktop |
| 09:54.20 | Guerin | mymayer: no other way |
| 09:54.39 | nok | Guerin: menudefs.hook is referenced in menu.xml |
| 09:54.45 | Guerin | nok: i know. |
| 09:54.57 | mymayer | Guerin thank you. Would be a possibilty with ext2 to ext3 ? |
| 09:55.05 | Guerin | mymayer: sure thing. |
| 09:55.13 | mymayer | ok fine |
| 09:55.18 | mymayer | Thank you a lot |
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| 09:55.54 | hkais | hi |
| 09:56.17 | nok | SimonRaven: I already created a blank .config/xfce4/desktop/menudefs.hook, but my xfdesktop4 still get error |
| 09:56.28 | hkais | anyone here who knows the issues with debian and sound? |
| 09:56.44 | hkais | i often get a error, that my /dev/dsp device is locked |
| 09:56.52 | hkais | sorry not available |
| 09:56.54 | SimonRaven | nok: like Guerin said, it'll use the one in /etc ... |
| 09:57.06 | valdyn | hkais: /dev/dsp is locked as soon as some application uses it |
| 09:57.14 | Guerin | hkais: using kde or gnome? |
| 09:57.24 | valdyn | hkais: ( unless you are using the commmercial oss version i think ) |
| 09:57.43 | hkais | Guerin: i use kde |
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| 09:58.06 | hkais | valdyn: i think i use alsa |
| 09:58.11 | Guerin | hkais: kde's sound server, arts, locks /dev/dsp |
| 09:58.20 | hkais | can i figure out what i am using? |
| 09:58.21 | nok | SimonRaven: so, it's the parser's problem, it can't find the file |
| 09:58.36 | Guerin | hkais: if you want to use oss programs with arts, you need to start them with artswrapper programname & |
| 09:58.40 | Firestarter | SimoRaven: thanks |
| 09:58.42 | SimonRaven | i haven't had any problems... |
| 09:58.50 | Guerin | hkais: but all in all, you're better off without arts at all |
| 09:59.04 | SimonRaven | Firestarter: my google search terms: ftape iomega ditto |
| 09:59.18 | hkais | Guerin: if i deactivate arts, is my complete kde without sound? |
| 09:59.34 | valdyn | hkais: basically yes |
| 09:59.37 | nok | maybe the sgml/xml catalog is not up to date |
| 09:59.53 | SimonRaven | nini |
| 09:59.53 | valdyn | hkais: ( though nothing is keeping kde applications from using something else, which some do. |
| 10:00.13 | Guerin | helix: yeah, all the annoying kde noises will be mercifully absent |
| 10:00.19 | Firestarter | cool |
| 10:00.20 | hkais | Guerin: have I understand it corretly, that i have to start my sound programs with artswrapper (like teamspeak)? |
| 10:00.25 | Guerin | hkais: yeah, all the annoying kde noises will be mercifully absent |
| 10:00.36 | Guerin | helix: sorry |
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| 10:00.54 | Guerin | hkais: or tell them to use arts, if they have that functionality |
| 10:01.48 | hkais | Guerin: how can i disable arts under kde? |
| 10:01.56 | Guerin | hkais: kcontrol |
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| 10:03.06 | Guerin | hkais: or it might be artsdsp |
| 10:03.10 | Guerin | can't remember |
| 10:03.27 | valdyn | kcontrol does it |
| 10:04.19 | valdyn | ops, well its artdsp |
| 10:04.20 | Guerin | oh yeah |
| 10:04.28 | Guerin | kcontrol is where to disable it |
| 10:04.36 | Guerin | artsdsp may be the wrapper |
| 10:05.02 | blueolive | hey guys...nice greetings from stuttgart in germany |
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| 10:08.01 | hkais | hey blueolive: wolcome |
| 10:08.47 | blueolive | I have a problem with my touchpad on ibm r51...since update to 2.6 the doubleclick doesnt work...only on the touchpad...the buttons work proper....only /dev/input/mice is in the xf86config-4 |
| 10:09.07 | Guerin | !synaptics |
| 10:09.07 | dpkg | methinks synaptics is http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html#Download, or for synaptics support in x install xfree86-driver-synaptics, or try modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse if its not working |
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| 10:09.34 | SimonRaven | nice, rebooted it without timing out. g'night all |
| 10:09.35 | hkais | blueolive. use the trackpoint |
| 10:09.50 | cheal | good night SimonRaven |
| 10:09.57 | blueolive | good night :-) |
| 10:10.07 | blueolive | the sun is on my side of the planet |
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| 10:10.13 | hkais | blueolive: once you have learned to use it you never want to use an other |
| 10:10.23 | SimonRaven | it'll get here soon |
| 10:10.24 | blueolive | i use it |
| 10:10.25 | hkais | SimonReaven: n8 |
| 10:10.52 | Guerin | neight? |
| 10:11.00 | Guerin | is that what a horse says at bedtime? |
| 10:11.24 | hkais | Guerin: ;-) |
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| 10:11.55 | blueolive | i try it ... thanks guys |
| 10:12.09 | hkais | blueolive: ahh okay, i always disable my pad, just to avoid accidential klicks on the pad with my thumb |
| 10:12.12 | nok | Guerin: do you know how to make xfdesktop parse the "debian" entity included in my menu.xml? |
| 10:14.12 | blueolive | would be happy if i could click |
| 10:14.20 | blueolive | with 2.4 everything works fine |
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| 10:16.02 | blueolive | bad news the package is installed....what else is to do |
| 10:16.06 | hkais | blueolive: sorry, can not help you, i can tell you there to disable it in the bios ;-) |
| 10:16.20 | blueolive | :-) |
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| 10:18.30 | cahoot | blueolive: can this be of help? http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2005/11/msg00001.html |
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| 10:19.47 | blueolive | thanks reading |
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| 10:20.53 | guesscode | I have one text file and I need to guess which character set it is encoded with, does anyone know any way to know?? |
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| 10:22.04 | cahoot | guesscode: run 'file' on it? |
| 10:22.18 | stew | guesscode: my guess is ascii |
| 10:22.28 | stew | do i win a prise? |
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| 10:23.39 | guesscode | cahoot: if I use file, it only sais data |
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| 10:24.18 | guesscode | let me explain, I have a dbf file with arabic text in it, and I want to know HOW is this arabic encoded, if ascii or uft or what |
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| 10:24.42 | Guerin | guesscode: you'll have to read it, I expect |
| 10:24.53 | Guerin | guesscode: perhaps strings? |
| 10:25.28 | guesscode | no, if I read it, programs ask me to tell them which encoding is used |
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| 10:25.39 | guesscode | I used dbview to dump the Dbase file into ascii |
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| 10:25.51 | cahoot | guesscode: file differs between ascii and utf here - so I guess your file isn't 'pure' text |
| 10:26.04 | Guerin | cahoot: it's a database |
| 10:26.11 | guesscode | cahoot: no, my file shouldn't be pure text |
| 10:26.21 | cahoot | <guesscode> I have one text file |
| 10:26.34 | guesscode | Guerin: the original is a database (DBF from database) but I dump it with dbview |
| 10:26.39 | cahoot | ok my mistake |
| 10:26.50 | Guerin | guesscode: i don't know how to proceed |
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| 10:27.09 | guesscode | with dbview I obtained a text file, files separated with colons, so no problem, a text file |
| 10:27.13 | Guerin | guesscode: i'd try telling your reader various encodings until one works |
| 10:27.29 | Guerin | i presume dumping it to ascii causes some lossage? |
| 10:27.50 | guesscode | guerin: I tried one which shows arabic in part, but other codes are wrong and are not arabie |
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| 10:28.16 | guesscode | Guerin: I hope dbview causes no loss in the file don't know, it's an old file dating 1995 |
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| 10:32.08 | MoDaX | is anyone using utf8 locales here? I wonder what's the best utf8 *console* font to use? |
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| 10:35.30 | resiak | MoDaX: bitstream vera sans mono worksforme. |
| 10:35.35 | resiak | Oh, wait. *rereads* |
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| 10:36.07 | MoDaX | resiak: I need console (virtual terminal) font |
| 10:36.16 | resiak | Yeah, I just reread your question. Sorry. |
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| 10:42.11 | dorto | how can i change the default browser in debian sarge? |
| 10:42.13 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.25 | dorto | its epiphany; i want to change it to mozilla |
| 10:42.26 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:42.33 | azeem | foo: Tree connect? |
| 10:42.38 | Phated | resiak: Ooh, does bitstream vera sans mono have UTF-8 characters? |
| 10:42.41 | foo | azeem: ? |
| 10:42.44 | foo | azeem: Yes.. |
| 10:42.47 | resiak | Phated: Yeah, some. |
| 10:42.52 | Phated | resiak: Most? |
| 10:43.10 | azeem | dorto: either change the mime database, or the "preffered applications" of your Desktop Environment |
| 10:43.22 | Phated | resiak: How does one change fonts on urxvt? |
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| 10:43.38 | resiak | Phated: You stick lines into your .Xresources and xrdb -merge it |
| 10:43.54 | resiak | Phated: I'll stick mine on the global internet. |
| 10:43.59 | Phated | resiak: I see. Thankyou. |
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| 10:44.23 | liri | is there a link for debian's HCL? |
| 10:44.31 | azeem | liri: what is HCL? |
| 10:44.43 | dorto | azeem: where can i find "Desktop Environment"? |
| 10:44.57 | dorto | i just searched for it...couldn't find |
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| 10:45.10 | azeem | dorto: do you run gnome or kde? |
| 10:45.14 | dorto | gnome |
| 10:45.38 | Nurbs | azeem: hardware compatability list |
| 10:45.54 | azeem | dorto: then it's gnome-default-applications-properties |
| 10:46.07 | resiak | liri: What makes you think that such a list exists? :) |
| 10:46.09 | ziupiu | dorto: or run update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 10:46.13 | liri | hardware compatability list |
| 10:46.18 | liri | lol |
| 10:46.21 | liri | ofcourse it exists |
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| 10:46.34 | liri | i just didnt buy a motherboard for 3 years so i dont really remember the link :) |
| 10:46.41 | resiak | !hcl |
| 10:46.41 | dpkg | somebody said hcl was at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel |
| 10:46.51 | resiak | Hmm... no Debian list there. |
| 10:47.03 | Guerin | resiak: there is no debian hcl |
| 10:47.14 | resiak | Guerin: That's exactly what I thought. |
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| 10:47.20 | Guerin | resiak: but it's all just linux anyway |
| 10:47.38 | resiak | Guerin: That's also exactly what I thought. Why are you telling _me_ this? :) |
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| 10:47.49 | liri | not "debian" list |
| 10:47.53 | liri | i was just being general heh |
| 10:47.59 | dorto | ah found it! |
| 10:48.00 | dorto | thx azeem |
| 10:48.24 | liri | I was given a Gigabyte SIS chipset but I returned it, I want to go for an Intel. I'm thinking it would be most compatible |
| 10:48.25 | Guerin | resiak: well, if something works on red hat or something else, then you can make it work on debian |
| 10:48.33 | Guerin | resiak: just thought you'd like to know |
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| 10:48.48 | resiak | Guerin: You can? Wow! But they're like totally different. |
| 10:49.12 | Guerin | resiak: but you can always rebuild the kernel. You realise this, don't you? |
| 10:49.21 | resiak | Guerin: No! What's one of those then? |
| 10:49.22 | Guerin | resiak: YHBT |
| 10:49.27 | resiak | :( |
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| 10:49.49 | Nurbs | hah :) |
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| 10:57.49 | dedo | gurizada....to com um problema..... |
| 10:58.05 | dedo | eu não estou conseguindo escutar radio pela net... |
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| 10:58.13 | dedo | to usando o debian br cdd.. |
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| 10:58.52 | resiak | !br |
| 10:58.53 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 10:58.59 | liable | who has actually gotten syslinux to work on a usb stick? anyone? |
| 10:59.01 | resiak | Did I guess right? |
| 10:59.13 | dedo | rsrsrsr.....ok.. |
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| 10:59.50 | liable | i had to make an ext2 part on the thing to be able to boot the installer, and stupid windows cant see the other partition on it.. |
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| 11:00.44 | veleno | hello everyone. how do i cnahge system time, or better how to i synchronize to some server providing the right time? |
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| 11:00.56 | liable | !time |
| 11:00.56 | dpkg | it has been said that time is found on http://www.time.com/, or Sat Nov 5 11:00:56 2005 UTC, or an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so - Ford Prefect said that. |
| 11:01.04 | liable | meh |
| 11:01.15 | liable | wrong one.. |
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| 11:01.41 | pusling | is it possible to install some programs, like mysql, without it tries to start it in postinst? (Or do I need to rebuild the package?) |
| 11:01.47 | cahoot | veleno: ntp or chrony |
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| 11:03.42 | liable | no one boots from a usb stick? |
| 11:03.50 | teclo | Hello, here is my problem: I have two machines running sarge with the same packages installed, and identical kernels (vmlinuz-2.6.14 and initrd.img-2.6.14 have the same md5sum). On one machine, it boots, on the others, I get "unknown filesystem type 'devfs'" and a kernel panic. Any ideas ? |
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| 11:04.46 | pusling | liable: I have heard of people got syslinux working ;) |
| 11:05.10 | cahoot | teclo: devfs is definitely obsolete now |
| 11:05.13 | liable | pusling: gimme there email address! :) |
| 11:05.17 | teclo | cahoot: I know that |
| 11:05.24 | teclo | cahoot: but I didn't choose it in .config |
| 11:05.50 | cahoot | teclo: looks like one of your systems tries to use devfs |
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| 11:05.59 | pusling | liable: sorry - do not have it. It was a speaker to a conference with 'see my new fancy linux based jukebox' |
| 11:06.15 | liable | pusling: heh |
| 11:06.16 | teclo | cahoot: yes |
| 11:06.16 | Nurbs | cahoot: the debian initrd does |
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| 11:06.29 | sarek | hi |
| 11:06.33 | cahoot | Nurbs: even with 2.6.14? |
| 11:06.46 | Nurbs | cahoot: you can't use initrd-tools with >2.6.12 |
| 11:06.46 | resiak | teclo: Is one of the machines not _using_ the initrd? |
| 11:06.49 | liable | its actually annoying the shit out of me. |
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| 11:07.02 | Nurbs | cahoot: yaird works with initrd or ramfs |
| 11:07.10 | Nurbs | or initramfs-tools |
| 11:07.20 | teclo | resiak: prolly not... you *have to* use initird with 2.6 don't you ? |
| 11:07.27 | resiak | teclo: Erm, no. |
| 11:07.47 | Nurbs | I'd just get rid of initrd-tools and replace them by yaird |
| 11:07.54 | pusling | liable: If I remember correctly, he installed syslinux on the harddisk and booted up on the harddisk and syslinux continued booting on the usbstick |
| 11:08.36 | Nurbs | except that yaird isn't in sarge, mhm :) |
| 11:09.01 | liable | pusling: meh, i dont have a floppy, and my cd drive shat its pants, so i only got usb for rescue's, and i dont want to waste the whole stick on just a rescue image. |
| 11:09.06 | teclo | resiak: both machines have a line for the initrd in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 11:10.17 | liable | pusling: which is fine, i made an ext2 partition with grub that boots, but now windows, the retard doesnt want to see the second partition on the stick.. :( |
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| 11:10.55 | liable | xaureus: google |
| 11:10.56 | xaureus | what am i missing? |
| 11:10.57 | Nurbs | xaureus: install build-essential |
| 11:11.08 | xaureus | i have gcc/glib installed |
| 11:11.13 | resiak | !b-e xaureus |
| 11:11.14 | dpkg | xaureus: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 11:11.28 | Nurbs | resiak: thanks ;) |
| 11:11.41 | resiak | Nurbs: Sure, I was just repeating the point. :) |
| 11:11.59 | teclo | and I did apt-get --reinstall install initrd-tools |
| 11:12.07 | xaureus | Unpacking build-essential (from .../build-essential_10.1_i386.deb) ... |
| 11:12.08 | xaureus | Setting up build-essential (10.1) ... |
| 11:12.11 | xaureus | done |
| 11:12.14 | xaureus | now what? |
| 11:12.29 | azeem | xaureus: retry ./configure |
| 11:12.34 | Nurbs | teclo: which debian distribution do you use? |
| 11:12.42 | teclo | Nurbs: Sarge |
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| 11:13.16 | Nurbs | teclo: custom kernel? |
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| 11:13.51 | teclo | Nurbs: yes, from ftp.kernel.org. But I tried building it the two ways (make-kpkg and "handmade"), it fails |
| 11:13.56 | Nurbs | teclo: crypto-root, root on LVM or anything like that? |
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| 11:14.07 | teclo | Nurbs: but I have to use a custom kernel, there's an ata-raid controller |
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| 11:14.17 | VoltageX | is there any way to get a list of packages that have been updated since sarge? I'm trying to get a list like from apt-get --print-uris so I can download packages for a machine with a really slow net connection |
| 11:14.24 | m0riarTy | hello, i have a strange problem with nautilus-cd-burner (linux 2.6.12)... i'm able to burn to my rewritable disc, but not to any other write-once discs |
| 11:14.29 | liable | so, is syslinux just a joke, or does it actually work? |
| 11:14.37 | xxxpixie | hi. i'm using sarge. what is modprobing my nic's driver? |
| 11:14.50 | liable | xxxpixie: man modprobe :) |
| 11:15.07 | liable | xxxpixie: its inserting the driver for your nic. |
| 11:15.09 | xxxpixie | liable: :) no... i mean't - what does it on boot - i just don't need it |
| 11:15.30 | toptommie | anyone using uml on debian? |
| 11:15.32 | xaureus | azeem: when i'm trying to ./configure a source code, i get checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 11:15.36 | Nurbs | teclo: I'd just recommend you to not use an initrd if there's no reason to use one for you |
| 11:15.39 | xaureus | the same problem i get |
| 11:15.41 | liable | xxxpixie: if you want to use it, then the driver has to be loaded. |
| 11:16.13 | teclo | Nurbs: ok thank you , so I comment the line with initrd in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 11:16.34 | xxxpixie | liable: i don't want to use it. it's not in /etc/modules or anywhere in /etc - so my guess is that something is loading automatically - but what? |
| 11:16.54 | azeem | xaureus: then check config.log for what the exact problem is |
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| 11:17.16 | liable | xxxpixie: hotplug or discover |
| 11:17.18 | Nurbs | teclo: hm, yes. I _think_ that should be it, but don't take my word. you can always check with grub by just rebooting and editing the options before booting a kernel, too |
| 11:17.39 | xxxpixie | liable: what's discover? |
| 11:17.46 | liable | !discover |
| 11:17.47 | dpkg | hmm... discover is a hardware identification system based on the libdiscover1 library, or see hotplug |
| 11:18.16 | Nurbs | teclo: it's just that initrd-tools are broken in many respects, especially for recent kernels, and I'd try to avoid bothering with them. they've been replaced by yaird and initramfs-tools in etch which are possibly awful to backport because of udev, hotplug etc. |
| 11:18.46 | xxxpixie | oh... no it's hotplug :). well, thanks! bye! |
| 11:19.01 | teclo | Nurbs: wow, initrd is broken... that kinda sucks :/ |
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| 11:19.33 | xaureus | azeem: http://pastebin.com/418066 |
| 11:20.31 | azeem | # |
| 11:20.32 | azeem | as: invalid option -- Q |
| 11:20.32 | azeem | # |
| 11:20.32 | azeem | Usage: |
| 11:20.32 | azeem | # |
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| 11:20.46 | azeem | sigh |
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| 11:21.25 | trueno | Hi! How can I refer to a file which has blanks in its name if i want to use it inside a system("") in perl? |
| 11:21.32 | azeem | xaureus: I assume any other programs do not compile/configure, either? |
| 11:21.40 | xaureus | yes |
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| 11:22.03 | azeem | xaureus: try to write a trivial c program, and compile it with ggc -v -o foo foo.c |
| 11:22.04 | resiak | trueno: system("some program", "foo", "bar baz", "why aren't you in #perl?"); |
| 11:22.14 | SimonRaven | trueno: #perl. escape the spaces, or quote it |
| 11:22.27 | SimonRaven | or ^^ |
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| 11:22.48 | azeem | xaureus: config.log lists one trivial program for example, just copy&paste it without all the defines |
| 11:22.48 | vortek | hello ;0 |
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| 11:23.18 | trueno | SimonRaven: resiak: thanks, I will join #perl as well :-) (did not know where to ask) |
| 11:23.21 | SimonRaven | hi resiak |
| 11:23.27 | SimonRaven | np |
| 11:23.38 | vortek | whats the easiest way to get ride of the boring grey texture of generic x applications.. Is gtk the only way to do this / |
| 11:23.52 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I tried to backup my root partition to another hard disk. I used `cp -aux / /backup` command, then I reconfigured and ran lilo so it made appropriate records to boot from another disk. However, when it boots, it hangs up on 'starting syslogd: syslog.' What can be wrong? |
| 11:23.54 | vortek | I mean not change the color but actualy texturize them. |
| 11:24.01 | scanwinder | i just installed xserver-xfree86 i should be able 2 bring up graphical by running startx rite? - there dosent seem to be a startx command, why is this? |
| 11:24.04 | hid3 | Btw, tried with 2 different disks, still the same |
| 11:24.06 | Nurbs | skinned apps are the root of all evil |
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| 11:24.24 | Nurbs | scanwinder: search packages.debian.org for startx |
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| 11:24.31 | resiak | !faq scanwinder |
| 11:24.32 | dpkg | scanwinder: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 11:24.32 | vortek | Nurbs lol ... is there a way to make generic apps be skinned ? |
| 11:24.35 | resiak | !tell scanwinder -about install xb |
| 11:24.36 | resiak | !tell scanwinder -about install x |
| 11:24.40 | teclo- | Hello, I have commented out the line for initrd in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Now I get: "VFS: Cannot open root device "ataraid/d0p7" on unknown-block(0.0). But /dev/ataraid/d0p7 *is* there, and I don't have that problem when I boot in 2.4.x ... |
| 11:24.58 | Nurbs | resiak: you're doing that on purpose, mhm |
| 11:25.16 | resiak | Nurbs: Doing what on purpose? |
| 11:25.34 | Nurbs | resiak: having dpkg give answers once I've given some ;) |
| 11:25.42 | resiak | Nurbs: Sorry. |
| 11:26.21 | vortek | Nurbs: do you know of any system or method of skinning generic apps ? or is compiling them with gtk the only way |
| 11:26.44 | azeem | if somebody wants to answer explicitely, that should be preferred to the rather anonymous dpkg-msging-the-guy, IMHO |
| 11:26.56 | m0riarTy | hello, i haven't been able to burn cds since i did a dist-upgrade (also upgraded linux 2.4.x to 2.6.12). i am able to write to my rewritable cd without any problem, though. |
| 11:27.05 | Nurbs | vortek: use some windowing toolkit that supports skinning. but generally, just don't skin your app :) |
| 11:27.05 | resiak | azeem: Why, when dpkg will give them the exact answer with fewer typing for all involved? |
| 11:27.27 | resiak | s/fewer/less/ |
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| 11:28.03 | vortek | Nurbs : lol i know ... can you recomend a windowing toolkit that supports skinning ? I wouldnt even know what to google for |
| 11:28.36 | azeem | resiak: because it's less friendly |
| 11:29.01 | resiak | vortek: You can't compile arbitrary apps with a widget toolkit of your choice. If the app in question is written for, say, Gtk+, then that is what it uses. You can theme Gtk+ and Qt, though. |
| 11:29.05 | resiak | azeem: How? |
| 11:29.36 | resiak | azeem: And no-one _did_ answer explicitly. The explicit answer is "install x-window-system-core". |
| 11:29.38 | azeem | resiak: if you call tech support, do you prefer to talk to a robot or a human support guy? |
| 11:29.41 | vortek | resiak : ahh so if the app supports gtk or qt then i can use that to theme it etc |
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| 11:29.59 | vortek | resiak ; thats how i figured it worked |
| 11:30.10 | resiak | vortek: s/supports/uses/, and in each case I don't think that the themes are going to do what you want them to do, but that's just a guess on my part. |
| 11:30.14 | azeem | resiak: anyway, it was just a general remark, nothing specific. Sorry about that |
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| 11:30.23 | resiak | azeem: Okay. I'll continue to use dpkg. |
| 11:30.27 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: well, why not just use the old kernel again? |
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| 11:31.09 | vortek | resiak ; what would be nice is some how xorg or a windowmanager if possible could just skin the app before it loaded :) |
| 11:31.14 | vortek | resiak tanxs for the info |
| 11:31.22 | vortek | same to that other guy who helped. |
| 11:31.36 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: what problem do you have exactly (2.6.x) ? |
| 11:31.53 | resiak | vortek: X and window managers have nothing to do with it. Setting your Gtk and Qt themes has everything to do it, and will "skin the app before it loaded". |
| 11:32.05 | m0riarTy | streuner_, i'm not able to burn cds now... i'm able to burn to my rewritable cd, though |
| 11:32.30 | m0riarTy | streuner_, tried with cdrecord as well as nautilus-cd-burner |
| 11:32.31 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: so you can burn CDRW's but NOT CDR's? |
| 11:32.42 | m0riarTy | streuner_, exactly |
| 11:33.10 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: did you try other CDR's as well? |
| 11:33.11 | vortek | word |
| 11:33.30 | m0riarTy | streuner_, actually i get no error when i burn a CDR... just that when i try to mount it again, it always fails |
| 11:33.41 | m0riarTy | streuner_, yes, i've tried a lot of CDR's |
| 11:33.45 | cahoot | m0riarTy: are those two different devices? |
| 11:33.51 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: from the same brand? |
| 11:33.54 | m0riarTy | streuner_, no, the same device |
| 11:34.24 | streuner_ | no, i mean you tried CDR's from different manufactors? |
| 11:34.28 | m0riarTy | streuner_, yes same brand, but different model CDRs (at least they appear different - and are from different sets) |
| 11:34.38 | vortek | you know what would be cool for debian.. a over all progress bar for console that showed you how long to go on an update ;) or install. |
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| 11:35.14 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: throw those CDR's into trash and give them back where you bought them... |
| 11:35.21 | m0riarTy | cahoot, no i use the same device to burn CDRs and CDRWs |
| 11:35.42 | streuner_ | s/and/or/ |
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| 11:36.03 | m0riarTy | streuner_, they worked fine in my older kernel... also, they are from different sets (didn't buy them all at once) |
| 11:36.37 | streuner_ | hm, ok just install the 'old' kernel to see what happens then |
| 11:36.45 | cahoot | m0riarTy: does cdrecord tell you what's wrong? |
| 11:36.57 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: paste the output to the paster-bot |
| 11:37.00 | streuner_ | !paste |
| 11:37.00 | dpkg | from memory, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 11:37.05 | m0riarTy | cahoot, i get no error while burning the disk... |
| 11:37.29 | m0riarTy | ty, streuner_ |
| 11:37.40 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
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| 11:38.21 | xaureus | azeem: http://pastebin.com/418076 |
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| 11:38.44 | m0riarTy | streuner_, i pasted the output on #flood |
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| 11:39.05 | tjoklat | does anyone know how to install nvidia drivers ? |
| 11:39.16 | phar0z | it's easy |
| 11:39.18 | azeem | xaureus: that is a C++ program you wrote |
| 11:39.26 | streuner_ | m0riarTy: well, you could use this command here too... |
| 11:39.28 | phar0z | I just installed nvidia driver |
| 11:39.33 | azeem | xaureus: try "int main (void) { exit 0; }" |
| 11:39.34 | xaureus | yes, a simple one, and it won't compile |
| 11:39.45 | SimonRaven | tjoklat: /msg dpkg nvidia howto /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 11:39.47 | azeem | xaureus: you don't have g++ installed then, perhaps |
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| 11:39.50 | phar0z | is the extension .cc ? |
| 11:39.51 | atp | hey folks. i'm a long-time mutt user. recently i've had the heretical notion that i probably ought to start thinking about using a non-text based mail reader. are there any out there that don't suck? |
| 11:40.06 | m0riarTy | cahoot, i've pasted my dmesg output on #flood (messages i get when i try to mount the CDRs i burnt) |
| 11:40.07 | atp | (ie, are like mutt, but with pretty widgets?) |
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| 11:40.08 | phar0z | apt-get install nvidia-glx :) |
| 11:40.14 | Ae|-_GoD | Ok, I rebooted my system today, and I have no sound, where I should have a look now? |
| 11:40.35 | m0riarTy | streuner_, which command do you mean? |
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| 11:40.45 | phar0z | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or dpkg-reconfiguer xserver-xfree86 |
| 11:40.46 | streuner_ | cat /proc/version |
| 11:41.12 | m0riarTy | oops, okay |
| 11:41.33 | tjoklat | phar0z thank you |
| 11:41.36 | phar0z | np |
| 11:41.37 | phar0z | wait |
| 11:41.45 | phar0z | you have to do it very carefully |
| 11:42.03 | phar0z | your architecture is x86 ? |
| 11:42.12 | tjoklat | phar0z yes |
| 11:42.17 | phar0z | i'll give you link |
| 11:42.18 | xaureus | azeem bestmedia:~/lame-3.96.1# dpkg -l|grep g++ |
| 11:42.18 | xaureus | ii g++ 3.3.5-1 The GNU C++ compiler |
| 11:42.18 | xaureus | ii g++-3.3 3.3.5-8 The GNU C++ compiler |
| 11:42.23 | phar0z | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7676.html |
| 11:42.39 | mirak | anyone uses flashgot ? |
| 11:42.55 | azeem | xaureus: then try to rename aaa.c to aaa.cpp |
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| 11:43.09 | azeem | xaureus: but I really suggest you start with doing a C program |
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| 11:43.13 | Ae|-_GoD | anyone? |
| 11:43.17 | tjoklat | phar0z yes |
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| 11:43.22 | phar0z | private |
| 11:43.31 | atp | so... no one reads mail eh |
| 11:43.32 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: did you have sound yesterday? |
| 11:43.45 | xaureus | that trivial program isn't enough? |
| 11:43.51 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, yeap |
| 11:43.52 | Ae|-_GoD | normally |
| 11:44.04 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: when did you last reboot before? |
| 11:44.21 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, 15 mins ago |
| 11:44.28 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: before that |
| 11:44.33 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, 10 days ago |
| 11:44.45 | tjoklat | phar0z to pm i have register this nick |
| 11:44.47 | azeem | so you rebooted 10 days ago? |
| 11:44.49 | xaureus | zeem, aaa.cpp: In function `int main()': |
| 11:44.50 | xaureus | aaa.cpp:3: error: parse error before numeric constant |
| 11:45.04 | azeem | xaureus: sorry, I don't have time to debug your C++ code |
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| 11:45.16 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, yeap I had sound normally till today but I "played" with some fuckin' modules in modconf yday |
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| 11:45.24 | tjoklat | phar0z cannot do that |
| 11:45.25 | Ae|-_GoD | and then, after the reboot == no sound |
| 11:45.30 | azeem | xaureus: or maybe you did a C program now, then rename it to aaa.c :) |
| 11:45.37 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: aha |
| 11:45.43 | tjoklat | phar0z i dont have the kernel source installed |
| 11:45.50 | atp | xaureus: what's your code? |
| 11:45.55 | xaureus | azeem it was a simple "hello world", drop it..thanks anyway |
| 11:45.56 | phar0z | ah damn |
| 11:46.06 | phar0z | maar je kan het lezen? |
| 11:46.14 | atp | xaureus: paste in #flood lemme see |
| 11:46.22 | xelam | roo |
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| 11:46.35 | phar0z | is your X-server xfree86 or xorg ? |
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| 11:46.40 | phar0z | look in /etc/X11 |
| 11:46.48 | xaureus | atp: it's a very simple program, and it won't compile |
| 11:47.04 | tjoklat | phar0z that step doesnt work for me |
| 11:47.15 | phar0z | it doesn't download nvidia kernel source? |
| 11:47.24 | tjoklat | phar0z no |
| 11:47.30 | phar0z | strange |
| 11:47.32 | atp | xaureus: i just gave you some pointers on #flood |
| 11:47.55 | phar0z | idee |
| 11:47.56 | CAiRO | is there a firefox extension to get a gtk2 save file dialog? |
| 11:48.24 | tjoklat | phar0z i have kernel-image-2.6.7 |
| 11:48.32 | atp | xaureus: you still there? |
| 11:48.45 | phar0z | apt-get install nvidia-kernel* |
| 11:48.55 | xaureus | atp: the problem was while i tryed to compile a source code...and check the output log http://pastebin.com/418066 |
| 11:49.19 | xaureus | now i tryed to compile a simple c/c++ program in order to check if it's all ok |
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| 11:49.39 | tjoklat | phar0z it is installing nvidia-kernel-common |
| 11:49.44 | phar0z | ok |
| 11:49.44 | phar0z | nice |
| 11:49.46 | atp | xaureus: well, your simple C/C++ program isn't really C or C++, it has some small errors in it |
| 11:49.53 | phar0z | mighty apt-get :) |
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| 11:50.09 | atp | xaureus: so it not compiling doesn't indicate that the compiler is borked :) |
| 11:50.19 | atp | xaureus: but it doesn't prove the compiler isn't borked, either, obviously |
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| 11:50.47 | RichiH | any idea how one can open a Thumbs.db created by win xp? |
| 11:50.47 | m0riarTy | streuner_, theres one more thing i did, after doing a dist-upgrade... i disconnected my DVDROM drive... so my CDRW drive changed from hdd to hdc |
| 11:50.59 | xaureus | be right back |
| 11:51.00 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05) |
| 11:51.10 | tjoklat | phar0z E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate |
| 11:51.14 | Ae|-_GoD | trying, to modprobe the chipset maybe? |
| 11:51.21 | phar0z | that's not a big deal |
| 11:51.29 | phar0z | just install the nvidia-kernel modules |
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| 11:51.37 | solinux | Hi :) |
| 11:51.48 | phar0z | what is your xserver? |
| 11:51.51 | phar0z | xfree86 or xorg ? |
| 11:51.57 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: do you run Linux-2.4 or 2.6? |
| 11:52.02 | atp | xaureus: looking at that log though it certainly does look like your c compiler is borked... the program it tried to compile should have been very simple |
| 11:52.13 | atp | xaureus: to compile i mean |
| 11:52.13 | tjoklat | phar0z xorg |
| 11:52.17 | phar0z | ok |
| 11:52.30 | phar0z | so the nvidia kernel is installed now? |
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| 11:52.52 | tjoklat | phar0z nvidia-kernel-common i have installed it |
| 11:52.54 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, 2.6 |
| 11:52.54 | phar0z | ok |
| 11:53.05 | phar0z | you can also read ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt |
| 11:53.13 | phar0z | all the install instructions are in it :) |
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| 11:53.36 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: so I suggest you use ALSA (if not already) and rerun alsa-conf or whatever it is called |
| 11:53.36 | phar0z | you log out from your server you run the nvidia executable, accept everything |
| 11:53.44 | toptommie | someone using uml? |
| 11:53.44 | phar0z | and then change /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 11:53.53 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: instead of mucking around with modconf (why did you do that, anyway?) |
| 11:53.56 | phar0z | driver: "nvidia" (replace it) |
| 11:54.07 | phar0z | you remove: load "dri" en load "glcore" |
| 11:54.19 | phar0z | en als het er nog niet staat voeg je load "glx" eraan toe |
| 11:54.25 | tjoklat | phar0z what is the nvidia executable ? |
| 11:54.29 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, via ALSA, how can I set my soundcard, again? alsamixer? |
| 11:54.38 | phar0z | well that's the .run |
| 11:54.50 | toptommie | phar0z, from belgium of the netherlands? |
| 11:54.53 | phar0z | Belgium |
| 11:54.58 | toptommie | :-) |
| 11:55.00 | toptommie | me 2 |
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| 11:55.06 | phar0z | I would say Flanders :) |
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| 11:55.13 | toptommie | indeed :-) |
| 11:55.22 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: alsaconf or something, rather, I'd say |
| 11:55.26 | toptommie | me neither :-) |
| 11:55.31 | sarek | after having installes kernel 2.6.14-1 from sid I cannot use the framebuffer console any more. If I boot with option vga=791 I always get an error message that I entered an invalid video mode. But I let yaird include vesafb. So shouldn't this work? |
| 11:55.46 | phar0z | NVIDIA*.run is the executable |
| 11:55.49 | tjoklat | phar0z k, im downloading the run |
| 11:55.53 | toptommie | phar0z, have you ever used uml on debian? |
| 11:55.54 | phar0z | ok |
| 11:55.59 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: see the bottom of http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 11:56.00 | phar0z | uml? |
| 11:56.07 | toptommie | user-mode-linux |
| 11:56.12 | phar0z | nope |
| 11:56.20 | phar0z | hehe debian was my first distro :) |
| 11:56.27 | N0S3 | that webmail recommends me? I have installed in a client: usermin+webmin+postfix+qpopper+autentificacion pam |
| 11:56.41 | toptommie | yes but uml is used to run a linux under another linux virtual |
| 11:56.47 | phar0z | oh nice |
| 11:56.48 | toptommie | so i am trying to get it running |
| 11:56.54 | toptommie | but i have an amd64 |
| 11:57.05 | toptommie | and it seems that the kernel patch is not working correctly :P |
| 11:57.13 | phar0z | hm |
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| 11:57.27 | toptommie | I am now trying to rebuild the kernel with another gcc |
| 11:57.34 | tjoklat | phar0z ok i modified the xorg.conf file |
| 11:57.35 | toptommie | maybe that helps |
| 11:57.35 | phar0z | zie da ge kernel panic ept (: |
| 11:57.39 | phar0z | noo! |
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| 11:57.45 | phar0z | you have the modify that after you installed the driver |
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| 11:58.01 | tjoklat | phar0z so now i install the driver then |
| 11:58.06 | phar0z | ok also good |
| 11:58.11 | tjoklat | phar0z lets see |
| 11:58.14 | phar0z | chmod+x NVIDIA*.run |
| 11:58.32 | toptommie | phar0z, it is giving Kernel panic: map_stub_pages : /proc/mm map for code failed, err = 2 |
| 11:58.38 | phar0z | lol |
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| 11:59.08 | toptommie | there is not a lot of amd64 support I guess? |
| 11:59.23 | jhaig | I'm trying to install Debian 3.1 on a machine. It has gone through the first part and now I need to re-boot to complete the install. However, it keeps rebooting just after it gets past the grub menu. Anyone else seen this? It goes so quickly I cannot see any error messages. |
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| 11:59.29 | vittorio | hi, does SMTP (exim4) need an open input port on the firewall to work correctly? |
| 11:59.34 | atp | toptommie: my bro runs amd64 and it seems to be pretty stable |
| 11:59.43 | atp | toptommie: little anecdotal evidence for you there |
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| 12:00.07 | toptommie | atp, it is but there is not a lot of support arround and running UML keeps the host kernel stable |
| 12:00.08 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, done :-) ALSA, r0x. |
| 12:00.16 | phar0z | toptommie: also join linux.be :) |
| 12:00.28 | toptommie | however the guest kernel doesn't find the patch but finds the /proc/mmm |
| 12:00.52 | toptommie | and keeps crashing |
| 12:01.10 | tjoklat | phar0z the installer failes |
| 12:01.14 | phar0z | what? |
| 12:01.15 | phar0z | :s |
| 12:01.20 | phar0z | oh i know it |
| 12:01.26 | phar0z | you tried to launch the installer in your X? |
| 12:01.36 | tjoklat | phar0z no i quitted X |
| 12:01.49 | phar0z | it says an error? |
| 12:02.10 | tjoklat | phar0z first it says it will uninstall a driver which is alredy there |
| 12:02.19 | phar0z | huh wtf |
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| 12:03.09 | Ae|-_GoD | azeem, there is a little problem, when I tried to add volume control to my panel says "No Volume control/elements and/or devices found" |
| 12:03.15 | Ae|-_GoD | gnome panel |
| 12:03.20 | tjoklat | phar0z then i accept and it askes for a precompiled kernel interface |
| 12:03.28 | phar0z | just say yes |
| 12:03.31 | phar0z | accept the defaults |
| 12:04.30 | phar0z | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt just read it and try again i can't help you anymore i said what i could say |
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| 12:04.42 | close_to_debian | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:04.46 | tjoklat | phar0z ok thanks |
| 12:04.52 | close_to_debian | SecFilter "<[[:space:]]*(script|about|applet|activex|chrome)*>.*(script|about|applet|activex|chrome)[[:space:]]*>" |
| 12:04.55 | phar0z | np tjoklat |
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| 12:04.59 | close_to_debian | what does it do |
| 12:05.35 | vortek | activex crhome |
| 12:05.41 | vortek | is that win32 and mozilla? |
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| 12:06.15 | azeem | Ae|-_GoD: maybe you need to restart GNOME, not sure, sorry |
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| 12:06.30 | close_to_debian | No its a rule i saw in modsec which is creating problems |
| 12:06.43 | close_to_debian | for on of the clients |
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| 12:07.22 | vortek | ah |
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| 12:08.03 | hate29 | I have 2 soundcards. How can I set the primary card? |
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| 12:08.39 | doks | is AM64 supported on debian? |
| 12:08.47 | atp | doks: sort of |
| 12:08.48 | toptommie | jep |
| 12:08.49 | toptommie | it is |
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| 12:09.01 | toptommie | www.debian.org/ports/amd64 |
| 12:09.13 | toptommie | however there is a "stable" sarge release |
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| 12:09.16 | toptommie | but it is not official |
| 12:09.18 | doks | nice |
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| 12:09.27 | toptommie | there is however security updates |
| 12:09.32 | toptommie | I am running it |
| 12:09.36 | toptommie | it works very nice |
| 12:09.49 | toptommie | only problem i have is that one patch i need isn't working |
| 12:09.53 | doks | toptommie if there is no 64 bits package will apt-get use 32 bits instead? |
| 12:10.01 | toptommie | no |
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| 12:10.09 | doks | ok so then it will just stop? :P |
| 12:10.10 | toptommie | if you want to mix 32 with 64 |
| 12:10.23 | toptommie | then you need to set up a special environment |
| 12:10.26 | vortek | heh i wanna try solaris debian :) |
| 12:10.31 | bakr | aby command to check my ip-adress? |
| 12:10.31 | vortek | on x86 |
| 12:10.31 | Starfury^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.37 | vortek | bakr ifconfig |
| 12:10.39 | atp | vortek: i wonder if it'll go further than debian/netbsd did |
| 12:10.40 | scanwinder | what file does xfree86 config in debian? |
| 12:10.44 | toptommie | doks it uses other apt sources than the normal |
| 12:10.49 | vortek | atp; word |
| 12:10.51 | doks | oh |
| 12:10.53 | scanwinder | it dosent seem to be /etc/X11/XF86Config |
| 12:10.53 | toptommie | go read the amd64 port page :-) |
| 12:10.57 | doks | will do |
| 12:10.58 | doks | :-) |
| 12:11.01 | toptommie | and a lot of packages are available |
| 12:11.05 | vortek | atp: i heard debian fbsd is still going is that true / |
| 12:11.06 | toptommie | haven't had any problem |
| 12:11.17 | atp | vortek: wouldn't definitely be cool though... solaris is a badass kernel but userland sucks a fat one |
| 12:11.20 | doks | yes but its sad if i get problems because of that |
| 12:11.22 | doks | :) |
| 12:11.24 | atp | vortek: no clue |
| 12:11.26 | vortek | atp: word |
| 12:11.36 | doks | so thats why i was thinking about mixing |
| 12:11.40 | doks | just incase |
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| 12:11.49 | bakr | ifconfig: command not found |
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| 12:12.08 | misieq | hi! |
| 12:12.17 | misieq | i've got a question about debian-installer |
| 12:12.42 | vortek | bakr lol ifconfig |
| 12:12.42 | misieq | i've downloaded dvd isos and recorded them to dvds |
| 12:12.56 | vortek | bakr your on debian ? |
| 12:13.00 | vortek | and online / |
| 12:13.01 | vortek | ? |
| 12:13.07 | atp | ifconfig is cool |
| 12:13.09 | misieq | now i want to install debian on a system which does not have dvd-rom drive |
| 12:13.12 | atp | /etc/network/interfaces is for wimps |
| 12:13.15 | atp | yeah! |
| 12:13.18 | vortek | atp word |
| 12:13.23 | bakr | vortek: yes ofcourse |
| 12:13.34 | misieq | so i set up (using windows and serv-u) ftp server |
| 12:13.35 | vortek | sudo ifconfig ;) |
| 12:13.39 | atp | i always manually ifconfig all my interfaces each time i boot my laptop |
| 12:13.39 | misieq | in my local net |
| 12:13.42 | vortek | bakr try it as root |
| 12:13.43 | atp | hehe |
| 12:13.48 | vortek | atp hehe |
| 12:13.59 | vortek | bakr or just whois your self |
| 12:14.03 | SimonRaven | right |
| 12:14.13 | bakr | Yes got it... |
| 12:14.15 | bakr | Thanks |
| 12:14.22 | misieq | but debian-installer gives no chance to manually enter the ip address of ftp server from which it should use files... |
| 12:14.35 | doks | sure it does |
| 12:14.42 | misieq | how can i make debin-install use my ftp server? |
| 12:15.07 | toptommie | misieq, use the expert mode |
| 12:15.16 | toptommie | then you can change your apt.sources manualy |
| 12:15.40 | misieq | this is type "expert" while booting from floppy? |
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| 12:15.55 | toptommie | mmm |
| 12:16.03 | toptommie | aren't you using a minimal cdrom or something? |
| 12:16.22 | SimonRaven | misieq: not sure, but i don't think so |
| 12:16.37 | misieq | my box on which i'd like to set up debian has no cdrom, so i have to use floppies |
| 12:16.46 | SimonRaven | try it. won't hurt |
| 12:16.50 | toptommie | mmm |
| 12:16.59 | toptommie | haven;t used flopps with the deb installer |
| 12:17.04 | toptommie | i think you can type expert |
| 12:17.14 | toptommie | but don't know if you need an extra flop for that |
| 12:17.23 | SimonRaven | there isn't |
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| 12:17.51 | misieq | i need 3 floppies to run deb-inst from floppy: base, root and net-drivers |
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| 12:18.37 | misieq | oh... |
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| 12:19.19 | jhaig | Can someone help please. I have done the first part of a Debian 3.1 install but it will not boot up to complete. It gets to grub, starts booting and then reboots automatically. |
| 12:19.26 | misieq | there is option "type information about ftp manually" at the top of the list, and as my country is almost at the bottom, i didn't notice it :) |
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| 12:20.20 | liable | !kill syslinux |
| 12:20.28 | SimonRaven | heh |
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| 12:23.14 | liable | its been a while, anyone actually gotten syslinux to boot from a usb key? |
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| 12:25.00 | plbgnr | hello, in which package is stdlib.h ...C library ??? pls |
| 12:25.10 | Anthro | I know there's a factoid about this, but I don't remember what it's called. My X server won't start because it can't find the "fixed" font. |
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| 12:25.27 | Anthro | plbgnr: apt-get install build-essentials |
| 12:25.40 | liable | !tell plbgnr about search |
| 12:25.53 | Nurbs | Anthro: s/s$// |
| 12:26.04 | Anthro | Nurbs: Ah, oops |
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| 12:26.29 | Nurbs | I should work on my inter-human communication skills |
| 12:26.34 | Coweater | it's just build-essential |
| 12:26.46 | plbgnr | Anthro thanksss |
| 12:27.02 | Nurbs | Coweater: I just said so :) |
| 12:27.10 | Coweater | but not everyone gets regex |
| 12:27.20 | hackeron | is the 2d video output quality significantly better on the 6600GT than the 6200? - I'm kind of disappointed with the 2d quality after an ATI card :( |
| 12:27.51 | SimonRaven | !xfonts-base |
| 12:28.04 | SimonRaven | !listkeys base |
| 12:28.06 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'base' by key (15 of 51): /. base ;; all_your_base ;; allyourbase ;; base-config ;; basename ;; communicator-base ;; communicator-base-406 ;; database ;; dbase ;; linux kernel bug database ;; literal all your base ;; major league baseball ;; monitor database ;; netbase ;; potato base. |
| 12:28.19 | SimonRaven | !listkeys x base |
| 12:28.20 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'x base' by key returned no results. |
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| 12:28.47 | SimonRaven | !xfonts-base package |
| 12:28.48 | dpkg | it has been said that xfonts-base package is 4.1.0 |
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| 12:28.53 | SimonRaven | !xfonts |
| 12:28.53 | dpkg | If you are manually installing X using apt-get you will need xfonts-base. If your font aliases get corrupted, you can try dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base, yet if all else fails you will need to dpkg -P xfonts-base && apt-get install xfonts-base, so that the configuration for the fonts used in X are restored. |
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| 12:29.07 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 12:29.11 | Anthro | SimonRaven: I assume that's directed at me. |
| 12:29.21 | SimonRaven | well, just install xfonts-base, it'll get fixed |
| 12:29.31 | SimonRaven | yes |
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| 12:29.37 | liable | even if i put grub in the mbr of a usb key, i cant access the rest of the thing in windows, which shits me, cause i need to put files on it that are accessable to windows machines. :( |
| 12:29.58 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Small problem. apt-get install xbase-fonts tells me that xfonts-base is already the newest version. Now what? |
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| 12:30.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | has anyone used Debian for booting thin clients using bootp ? or a non pxe boot? |
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| 12:30.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | know any good howtos? |
| 12:30.17 | Anthro | s/xbase-fonts/xfonts-base/ |
| 12:30.31 | SimonRaven | --reinstall it then |
| 12:30.46 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Mm, sure. Just a sec. |
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| 12:31.53 | SimonRaven | probably just need a rebuild of the fonts.alias files or something |
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| 12:33.32 | theD3viL | Hm...i dont have iso8895-2 fonts in xmms, but in every other program and gnome have. What is wrong? |
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| 12:34.51 | Thunderstrik | Hi, my problem is that alsa cannot see my soundcard's hardware midi port. I am using an integrated AC97 card on my ASUS P4P800 mobo. |
| 12:35.08 | Thunderstrik | have you got any ideas? |
| 12:35.29 | sanoj | sarek: you need latest yaird (or manually add fbcon to yaird config) when using vga=xxx |
| 12:35.43 | drac | theD3viL: try installing 'apt-cache search xfonts | grep trans' packages.. ? |
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| 12:36.11 | theD3viL | drac, will try |
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| 12:36.50 | Anthro | SimonRaven: No dice. I also reinstalled xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-scalable. Running dpkg -L on each of the three and grepping for fixed produces no results. What's going on? |
| 12:37.10 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Oh, and how do I rebuild fonts.alias? |
| 12:37.39 | theD3viL | drac, do i have to restart X ? |
| 12:37.48 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Oh, duh, update-fonts-alias. Trying now. |
| 12:37.53 | drac | theD3viL: yeah, gtk1 like xmms doesn't use fontconfig, iirc.. |
| 12:38.32 | theD3viL | brb then |
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| 12:39.39 | theD3viL | drac, still doesnt work |
| 12:39.47 | drac | no idea then :/ |
| 12:39.53 | theD3viL | k :/ |
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| 12:40.16 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Updated fonts.alias, same issue. I'm baffled. |
| 12:40.57 | SimonRaven | so am i. :) |
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| 12:42.32 | Thunderstrik | Hi, my problem is that alsa cannot see my soundcard's hardware midi port. I am using an integrated AC97 card on my ASUS P4P800 mobo. /proc/asound/seq/drivers has nothing by default; however, if i manually modprobe snd-seq-oss, the modules appear - however, still no sign of my midi port. It is enabled in BIOS, and set to 308/220. |
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| 12:43.04 | Anthro | SimonRaven: I'm also getting the following two warnings, which may be related: |
| 12:43.07 | Anthro | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled, removing from list! |
| 12:43.07 | Anthro | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, removing from list! |
| 12:43.42 | Anthro | SimonRaven: It doesn't give any further information about *why* they could not init, but that's where the fixed font should be. |
| 12:43.42 | mymayer | after doing some partitioning under windows, booting debian brings up a fsch error and i should log me in for maintaince. What can/should i do now ? |
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| 12:44.12 | EloraHRanma | Hello. I'm thinking of installing debian, but I need to know if USB wireless cards are properly supported (especifically, Linksys WUSB54G v4.0) |
| 12:44.17 | SimonRaven | Anthro: got moved to /usr/share at some point |
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| 12:44.44 | Anthro | SimonRaven: ...? So my XF86Config-4 file needs to change? |
| 12:44.57 | JJK | mymayer, did you install debian with grub? |
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| 12:45.43 | Anthro | SimonRaven: I don't have a misc directory in /usr/share/fonts. |
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| 12:45.57 | mirak | how to know the date of the bios, not the one in linux ? |
| 12:46.15 | xelam | how to does not a question make |
| 12:46.29 | SimonRaven | Anthro: not everything did. not sure of the details now |
| 12:46.30 | Nurbs | mirak: hwclock |
| 12:46.42 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Crap. How do I find out? |
| 12:46.51 | mirak | Nurbs: thanks |
| 12:46.52 | mymayer | JJK yes |
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| 12:47.22 | Ja1 | can you recommend a WiFi accesspoint discovery commandline application |
| 12:47.22 | mymayer | JJK all partions of debian were not touched |
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| 12:47.45 | SimonRaven | changelogs for the relevant packages |
| 12:47.48 | JJK | mymayer, then boot your computer in safe mode (one of the options while booting afaik), and fsck all your debian partitions |
| 12:47.54 | JJK | mymayer, just try it. |
| 12:47.57 | Anthro | Ja1: I think the wireless-tools package has one. It's been a while. |
| 12:48.18 | Ja1 | Anthro: thx |
| 12:48.18 | Anthro | SimonRaven: *sigh* okay. |
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| 12:48.26 | mymayer | i can login anyway JJK |
| 12:48.39 | JJK | mymayer, best is to do all partition related things in Linux, not in Windows |
| 12:49.01 | mymayer | it was an NTFS partiton and i wnated toi get rid of it.. |
| 12:49.09 | mymayer | how to format a partition ? |
| 12:49.10 | cockroach | hi. it seems a recent upgrade of testing broke my wireless connection (I can hardly get a dhcp reply anymore and if I get one, the connection is extremely unreliable). i think it might be related to the recent udev upgrade. does anyone have a suggestion? |
| 12:49.19 | JJK | mymayer, you coud use fdisk of cfdisk |
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| 12:49.38 | JJK | mymayer, however, what did you exactly do? |
| 12:49.46 | valdyn | cockroach: this does sound far fetched, that theory |
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| 12:50.15 | andreiutz | re all :)))) |
| 12:50.24 | mymayer | JJK tryied to convert it first, dint worked, then risized it |
| 12:50.33 | mymayer | fsck bring me an error |
| 12:50.43 | valdyn | cockroach: udev handles /dev, but network interfaces do not have anything to do with /dev/ |
| 12:50.52 | JJK | mymayer, resizing an NTFS partition? :S |
| 12:50.54 | mymayer | fsck.ext3 : Bad magic nuber in super-block while trying to re-open |
| 12:51.05 | mymayer | e2fsck _ iomanger magic bad |
| 12:51.29 | mymayer | JJK it works fine with the PartitionMagic programm |
| 12:51.37 | mymayer | witout linux partitions.. |
| 12:51.38 | cockroach | valdyn: but udev is now responsible for hotplug and hotplug is responsible for properly loading my driver's firmware... |
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| 12:52.10 | mymayer | JKK can i do smth or do i need to reinstall ? |
| 12:52.33 | Starfury^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.46 | JJK | mymayer, fsck -pfy does not work? |
| 12:52.56 | JJK | in maintainance mode of course |
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| 12:53.08 | superlinux | hi all |
| 12:53.50 | superlinux | i cant run poweroff from my xterm |
| 12:53.50 | N0S3 | how to disable "Manage Folder" on "mailbox" of usermin ? would somebody help me? |
| 12:53.50 | xelam | try su first |
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| 12:54.09 | superlinux | i mean as a user not as root and the user is listed in the shutdouwn.allowed |
| 12:54.24 | superlinux | well i dont want that |
| 12:54.34 | mymayer | one scnd |
| 12:54.38 | superlinux | i know that on redhat i was able |
| 12:54.49 | valdyn | superlinux: now try /sbin/poweroff instead? |
| 12:55.15 | superlinux | valdyn, i do it /sbin/poweroff |
| 12:55.17 | Nurbs | superlinux: shutdown.allow |
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| 12:55.32 | fken | hello |
| 12:55.40 | superlinux | Nurbs, it has the user listed |
| 12:55.43 | JJK | mymayer, I've to go for a couple of minutes. I'll be back in a very short time |
| 12:55.55 | jhaig | How can I check a package to see what dependencies are required? I have a sid package I want to install on sarge, so there will be certain other things that need upgrading. |
| 12:55.58 | mymayer | JJK thank you very much |
| 12:56.04 | fken | whats happened ? new release of kde ? |
| 12:56.18 | fken | i am speaking about etch updates |
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| 12:56.38 | Anthro | jhaig: The easiest way is to apt-get install it. It won't install without confirmation if it needs to install other stuff. |
| 12:57.08 | Anthro | fken: KDE 3.4 made it into etch, yes. |
| 12:57.41 | Nurbs | superlinux: you need to have that user logged into one of the physical consoles and run shutdown -a according to the man page |
| 12:57.45 | jhaig | Anthro: I don't actually want to install it yet, though, so (in the unlikely event that I don't need any upgrades) will it ask me to confirm first? |
| 12:57.46 | fken | jhaig: apt-cache search foo | but i dunno if there is a way to verify dependancies |
| 12:57.50 | fken | try --help |
| 12:58.00 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:58.08 | fken | Anthro:cool |
| 12:58.12 | Nurbs | superlinux: but, uhm, that's not what you want. :) |
| 12:58.20 | Anthro | jhaig: no. If you just want direct dependencies, apt-cache depend |
| 12:58.21 | superlinux | yes |
| 13:01.10 | superlinux | true Nurbs |
| 13:01.10 | fken | oh and i would like to know how i can use unrar-free ... because the program seems not to work |
| 13:01.10 | Anthro | SimonRaven: I purged all of the xfonts-* packages. I am now installing them. Fingers crossed. |
| 13:01.11 | SimonRaven | X |
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| 13:01.11 | Anthro | heh |
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| 13:01.11 | SimonRaven | =D |
| 13:01.11 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Bah. Same issue. |
| 13:01.11 | fken | i have 247package that i cannot update... is it normal ? |
| 13:01.12 | SimonRaven | :| |
| 13:01.12 | jhaig | OK, thanks. However, I have the file as a *.deb, and apt-cache doesn't seem to have an option to use a local file. Is there some switch I'm missing? |
| 13:01.12 | SimonRaven | fken: depends what you mean. how about the actual messages? |
| 13:01.33 | liable | well, i am convinced that syslinux is nothing more than a joke.. |
| 13:01.36 | fken | hmmm SimonRaven : what do you mean |
| 13:01.40 | jhaig | Hmmm, I've just seen that dpkg has a --dry-run option - this may be what I want. |
| 13:01.51 | SimonRaven | fken: we don't read minds |
| 13:02.09 | fken | Ades:/home/fken# apt-get update && apt-get upgrade returns there are 247 packages which arent updated |
| 13:02.14 | fken | oups |
| 13:02.17 | fken | upgraded |
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| 13:02.58 | SimonRaven | run from dselect or aptitude or something |
| 13:03.12 | JJK | fken, try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run ? |
| 13:03.22 | SimonRaven | or at least dselect-upgrade for apt-get |
| 13:03.24 | Anthro | fken: It probably needs to remove something. Try apt-get dist-upgrade -u |
| 13:03.52 | Starfury^ | guesss noone has a clue then |
| 13:03.56 | Starfury^ | ok i will reinstall |
| 13:04.00 | SimonRaven | it's for um, you know, dist upgrades |
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| 13:04.04 | Starfury^ | is kde 3.4 out on stable yet? |
| 13:04.04 | fken | Anthro: it seems to be the good solution |
| 13:04.12 | Anthro | Starfury^: Did you have a question? I didn't see it. |
| 13:04.14 | fken | on stable ? |
| 13:04.17 | Starfury^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.19 | Starfury^ | is what i asked |
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| 13:04.46 | JJK | SimonRaven, I use it always, and never have any problems with it. |
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| 13:04.51 | Nurbs | Starfury^: KDE will take like 1 more year at least |
| 13:05.00 | Anthro | Starfury^: Hrm. Do you have a firewall/router/something? |
| 13:05.13 | JJK | but I don't know if it changes your system to testing then. |
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| 13:05.19 | Nessi | hi all |
| 13:05.25 | fken | btw when i had that kind of trouble i was used to write apt-get install LIST_OF_NON_UPGRADED_PACKAGES |
| 13:06.52 | Anthro | Starfury^: KDE 3.4 will never be in sarge. When etch becomes stable, it might be (but then, a later version of KDE might be in it). |
| 13:06.53 | Starfury^ | Anthro: thats not it, got 6 otyher systems that are fine, and this system been built for 3 yrs and only just started having problems |
| 13:06.53 | JJK | I used dist-upgrade -t unstable initially, but that was 'cause I wanted it :P |
| 13:06.53 | Starfury^ | Anthro: so sid ftw then |
| 13:06.53 | js_ | how can i prevent dhcp from editing /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 13:06.53 | fken | but i dunno if there is no problem with it... like libraries issues |
| 13:06.53 | Anthro | Starfury^: Hrm. Have you looked through various logs for anything relevant? |
| 13:06.53 | Starfury^ | someone mentioned that in anotehr channel |
| 13:06.53 | Starfury^ | but didnt say the names of the logs to look for |
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| 13:06.54 | Starfury^ | /var/logs/* |
| 13:06.54 | shay | guys, I'm using dsniff and I got a segfault everytime it detects something |
| 13:06.54 | shay | does anybody has/had the same issue? |
| 13:06.54 | shay | tried in Sid and Sarge |
| 13:06.59 | Anthro | Starfury^: /var/log/syslog is a good place to start, but anything plausible is fair game. |
| 13:07.02 | fken | whats the difference between amd64 and pure64 releases ? |
| 13:07.18 | SimonRaven | fken: learn to use the tools |
| 13:07.39 | Starfury^ | oh and another wierd thing |
| 13:07.43 | fken | SimonRaven: which tool? apt ? |
| 13:07.49 | Starfury^ | the samba daemons have stopped working |
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| 13:08.06 | SimonRaven | for instance |
| 13:08.37 | SimonRaven | Starfury^: /var/log |
| 13:09.04 | jelly | Hi, I'm looking for a reference for the preferred way to notify user when something is happening in my maint.scripts so that user knows what he's waiting for. There's stuff in debian-policy/ch-opersys.html for init scripts, but I cannot easily find an equivalent for postinst/prerm/etc. |
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| 13:10.21 | Anthro | If I install xserver-xorg will it leave my old XF86Config-4 alone? |
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| 13:10.54 | Anthro | jelly: /usr/bin/wall? |
| 13:11.23 | SimonRaven | it should convert it, and keep the old |
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| 13:12.11 | beer | is there a way so I can have both KDE 3.4 and the new beta of KDE on the same computer? |
| 13:12.19 | _joey | does anyone know how to set up wireless interface on debian once ndiswrapper package is installed ? |
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| 13:12.27 | Starfury^ | load of kernel messages about bad irq |
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| 13:12.29 | jelly | Anthro: no, I'm just trying to find out the usual way for postinst to display "Doing something ...", not really to all users, just for admin. |
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| 13:12.42 | fken | Anthro:SimonRaven is right : it will create another file called xorg and youll be able to find your old xfreeconfig-4 file |
| 13:12.54 | fken | in the same directory |
| 13:13.03 | cockroach | valdyn: heh, okay, sorry for bothering - i used the wrong AC adapter for my access point, that's why the wireless network didn't run properly :) |
| 13:13.05 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Okay. Well, let's see if that fixes it. |
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| 13:13.32 | jelly | Anthro: should I do echo -n "Doing stuff..."; stuff; echo " done." like in init scripts, or just echo "Doing stuff...", that sort of thing. |
| 13:13.49 | xelam | probably as ugly as the other KDEs |
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| 13:14.00 | fken | pfff xelam ... |
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| 13:14.13 | fken | i like kde |
| 13:14.28 | xelam | old versions were ok |
| 13:14.31 | fken | and MS like it too because if you look at their windows vista ... |
| 13:14.35 | xelam | like, 1.x |
| 13:14.37 | Starfury^ | 3.4 is nice |
| 13:14.42 | Starfury^ | i using it now |
| 13:14.52 | xelam | fken: then it must be good! |
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| 13:14.53 | fken | i know the trashcan is on the taskbar |
| 13:14.58 | Starfury^ | but i think sid is broken |
| 13:15.07 | Starfury^ | no it aintr |
| 13:15.13 | shay | hmm |
| 13:15.19 | Starfury^ | definalte not |
| 13:15.44 | fken | xelam: in your mind, how much time will wait MS before patenting the kde 3.4 ideas ? |
| 13:16.40 | Anthro | jelly: Whatever will make sense to your users. |
| 13:17.09 | abrotman | sid .. broken . surely not |
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| 13:17.26 | abrotman | liable: kind of short no ? |
| 13:17.38 | Anthro | liable: Surely you mean "sux" |
| 13:18.12 | liable | abrotman: no, it may involve several words |
| 13:18.24 | Tortel | I like how simple it is |
| 13:18.26 | fken | do you realize there is only one difference between tux and sux ? poor penguin |
| 13:18.31 | abrotman | Tortel: you smell funny ? |
| 13:18.35 | Tortel | yea |
| 13:18.53 | Tortel | i havent showered yet |
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| 13:19.29 | Anthro | Tortel: I prefer KDE largely because of its control center, but also because when I write an X11 app you better believe I'm using Qt. |
| 13:19.49 | Silent_al | qt sux :X |
| 13:20.08 | jelly | Silent_al: what's better? |
| 13:20.15 | Silent_al | gtk ^_^ |
| 13:20.23 | Anthro | Silent_al: Qt is the worst of all GUI APIs... except for all the others. |
| 13:20.24 | liable | lets not get into the whole qt gt suxorzz thing.. |
| 13:21.01 | jelly | Damn it, I was just going to troll a little. |
| 13:21.09 | Anthro | SimonRaven: Xorg runs properly. Whattayaknow? I'm a bit baffled as to why xfree86 stopped working, but whatever. |
| 13:21.27 | resiak | !start a de war |
| 13:21.30 | resiak | :( |
| 13:21.33 | resiak | !start a wm war |
| 13:21.33 | dpkg | ratpoison sucks! |
| 13:22.25 | Anthro | Where does kdm keep its Xauthority? |
| 13:23.11 | N0S3 | :( |
| 13:23.16 | fken | i had some strange issue last days with xorg / kde3.3 |
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| 13:23.34 | fken | the taskbar froze |
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| 13:23.56 | fken | i was forced to kill the xserver |
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| 13:24.29 | fken | i hope the problem is fixed becaus i never saw that with xfree86 |
| 13:25.11 | liable | fken: well xfree is stable, xorg is not... |
| 13:25.14 | olorin | hello all, i made some upgrade/dist-upgrade last days and it figures out that amarok disappears from the testing branch. What's the problem with amarok ? |
| 13:25.18 | fken | NB : the issue doesnt deal only with the taskbar |
| 13:25.42 | fken | liable:i thought xorg was a derivate from xfree |
| 13:25.58 | Guerin | liable: that's bullshit |
| 13:26.04 | fken | so why is xorg not stable? |
| 13:26.07 | liable | fken: you miss the point. |
| 13:26.18 | fken | liable: which one ? |
| 13:26.41 | jelly | liable: you mean, is _in_ stable? |
| 13:26.50 | fken | (is "you miss the point" an expression?) |
| 13:26.56 | liable | Guerin: well, so you dont expect to have *any* bugs for xorg? |
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| 13:27.27 | Guerin | liable: well, so you dont expect to have *any* bugs for XFree86/ |
| 13:27.28 | Guerin | ? |
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| 13:27.40 | liable | Guerin: not in sarge no |
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| 13:27.51 | Guerin | liable: then you're a fool. |
| 13:28.02 | Guerin | liable: 'stable' doesn't mean No Bugs |
| 13:28.07 | Guerin | it means Known Bugs |
| 13:28.18 | liable | Guerin: guess so.. |
| 13:28.25 | jelly | Guerin: it reads almost the same, though |
| 13:28.38 | Guerin | jelly: it means something wildly different |
| 13:28.49 | fken | Guerin: if nobody try to fixe them it would not be usefull to know them |
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| 13:29.26 | Guerin | fken: why's that? I'd prefer to know about aa bug, even if it can't be fixed, so I can work around or avoid it; or in worst case, not use the software. |
| 13:29.31 | Guerin | such as with windows |
| 13:29.51 | Guerin | where I was apprised of bugs, but not given an opportunity to fix them, so I stopped using it |
| 13:30.44 | fken | Guerin: yes good solution : stop using windows... moreover youre right but i think there is everytime a way to fix bugs |
| 13:31.02 | fken | hmm |
| 13:31.11 | fken | how can i restart kde ? |
| 13:31.18 | liable | Guerin: so, from your point of view, xfree in sarge is buggy, because there are known buge but xorg is the same? |
| 13:31.18 | fken | should i kill the server ? |
| 13:31.30 | fken | or restart it ? or is there another way ? |
| 13:32.14 | fken | ill try /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
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| 13:32.34 | zerve_the_death | lol |
| 13:32.36 | jelly | heh |
| 13:32.51 | Guerin | liable: any non-trivial piece of software has bugs. |
| 13:33.13 | Nessi | has Get:3 ftp://security.debian.org unstable/updates Release.gpg |
| 13:33.13 | Nessi | Ign ftp://security.debian.org unstable/updates Release.gpg .. a problem ? |
| 13:33.29 | liable | Guerin: yes, buts lets put it back in the perspective you just stated. |
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| 13:33.59 | Andy837 | how can i run VNC as a user and not root? |
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| 13:34.18 | fken | its not very different |
| 13:34.24 | Guerin | liable: you said xorg was unstable and xfree isn't. that's plainly bullshit. That was my only statement. |
| 13:34.27 | jelly | Nessi: No. it means it's the same as before, so it wasn't downloaded again (it was "ignored"). |
| 13:34.39 | Anthro | Andy837: Are you trying to provide a virtual X server or are you trying to get access to a running console X server? |
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| 13:35.03 | Nessi | jelly, thx |
| 13:35.09 | Nessi | ok 2. problem |
| 13:35.32 | Nessi | apt-get install / chroot / unstable |
| 13:35.38 | Nessi | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
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| 13:35.48 | liable | Guerin: ten you misinterpreted my meaning in that statement. |
| 13:35.49 | Nessi | mc or nfs-common .. |
| 13:36.06 | fken | Nessi:wait |
| 13:36.26 | Andy837 | i want to access to gui remotly (it works at present) but i have been told not to run it by root |
| 13:36.32 | Nessi | ok thx fken |
| 13:36.49 | fken | nessi: apt-get install debian-keyring |
| 13:37.19 | Nessi | k |
| 13:37.20 | fken | gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys THE_NUMBER_OF_THE_KEY |
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| 13:37.43 | fken | i think you are speaking about an apt issue |
| 13:38.00 | jelly | Andy837: use x0vncserver or the older x0rfbserver to access the already running X session. |
| 13:38.03 | Nessi | issue hm .. |
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| 13:38.26 | Nessi | was is it :( ? |
| 13:38.27 | liable | Guerin: or i could of added an 'in' |
| 13:38.30 | fken | so you must indicate the gpgkey of the server you trust |
| 13:38.36 | olorin | hello all, i made some upgrade/dist-upgrade last days and it figures out that amarok disappears from the testing branch. What's the problem with amarok ? |
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| 13:38.49 | Nessi | k |
| 13:38.59 | N0S3 | any server or chanel for support for webmin ? |
| 13:39.06 | cheal | olorin: it has unsatisfiable dependencies in testing. it will be back later |
| 13:39.08 | liable | olorin: wait untill it re-appears |
| 13:39.17 | fken | Nessi: when you type apt-get update it returns that there are some unauthentified server isnt it true ? |
| 13:39.29 | olorin | cheal, liable , ok thx |
| 13:40.00 | fken | Nessi ? |
| 13:40.00 | Nessi | fken, #flood ? |
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| 13:40.26 | Andy837 | i dont mind if i access the running x session or a new session |
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| 13:41.29 | davvin | I'm running Stable but I need to install the nightly VLC build, obviously there are unmet dependencies.. what is the "correct" way of doing this? |
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| 13:41.56 | coywolf | no, I don't have backup. i recovered manually. i wrote a program to locate the superblock. i'm a kernel hak0r. i was scared anyway. |
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| 13:42.02 | coywolf | I've just recovered my /var filesystem! |
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| 13:42.27 | xelam | you SHOULD have backups ;) |
| 13:42.27 | sportman | w00t |
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| 13:43.20 | davvin | do I have to "upgrade" to sid? |
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| 13:43.38 | cheal | !tell davvin about iyhtays |
| 13:44.03 | cheal | davvin: what do you mean by "the nightly VLC build" and which unmet dependencies are you talking about? |
| 13:44.13 | liable | davvin: why do you *have8 to? |
| 13:44.14 | cheal | sid isn't an upgrade |
| 13:44.25 | efaistos | does someone have a canon lbp2900 printer ? can we use it under linux ? |
| 13:44.39 | liable | !printer |
| 13:44.39 | dpkg | methinks printer is a device that allows you to put things from your computer onto paper, envelopes, or whatever. don't forget to check http://www.linuxprinting.org, or a hardcopy output device. easy to set up using foomatic-gui |
| 13:44.41 | cheal | efaistos: try to google it, or check linuxprinting.org |
| 13:44.43 | efaistos | i didnt find anythin on linuxprintink |
| 13:44.56 | cheal | efaistos: google |
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| 13:51.23 | fken | i have a LBP660 and i am proud to say that even if it was a Winprinter before, now it is a linprinter because there is no more way to make it works under windows |
| 13:51.23 | davvin | cheal: nightlies.videolan.org is built for sid.. but I'm running sarge. there are dependencies like libflac7, libc6, libaa1, libgcc1 |
| 13:51.23 | cheal | davvin: oh...I'm sleepy |
| 13:51.24 | cheal | davvin: as liable said, why do you want that nightly? |
| 13:51.25 | gene_v | nightly fly? |
| 13:51.25 | davvin | cheal: I need some of the new features of vlc since 0.8.4.. |
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| 13:51.27 | fken | oh god |
| 13:51.27 | cheal | davvin: like what? libflac7 is only in etch, so you can't decently install a binary package like that on sarge |
| 13:51.27 | fken | i have a trouble with tuxracer |
| 13:51.27 | cheal | fken: no! |
| 13:51.28 | fken | it transform my resolution but there is no game |
| 13:51.28 | cheal | fken: what does that mean? |
| 13:51.39 | davvin | cheal: the mosaic-feature in particular. can't seem to find 0.8.4 anywhere.. the nightly is at 0.8.5 already :P |
| 13:51.39 | fken | and now i am using linux with a 640*480 display |
| 13:52.07 | fken | it means that there are some issues with kde3.4 |
| 13:52.20 | Tolimar | fken: Since the release of sarge, there is no tuxracer game any more. It has been superseeded by ppracer. |
| 13:52.29 | Tolimar | fken: How to you start tuxracer? |
| 13:52.42 | fken | yes ppracer your right but i just remember the older name |
| 13:52.58 | Andy837 | how can i remove and stop apache running? |
| 13:53.02 | sarek | I still have problems with framebuffer console on the latest 2.6.14-1 kernel. I passed the option vga=791 and get the message "You passed an undefined mode number" I added Module fbcon to /etc/yaird/Default.cfg and did a dpkg-reconfigure on the kernel-image but still ... any suggestions? |
| 13:53.07 | fken | Tolimar apt-get install tuxracer -> link to ppracer |
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| 13:53.51 | Tolimar | fken: If you start ppracer from a konsole (xterm, konsole, gnome-terminal, whatever), do you see any error messages? |
| 13:54.13 | fken | i didnt start it from a console |
| 13:54.18 | fken | but il try again |
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| 13:54.37 | fken | hmmm |
| 13:54.39 | fken | segfault |
| 13:54.42 | cheal | Andy837: by removing the apache-common package? |
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| 13:55.01 | fken | just after See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details. |
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| 13:56.24 | davvin | ok I found a good version of VLC in debian unstable but I'm running Sarge, how do I install it without breaking everything? |
| 13:56.43 | Andy837 | cheal: i think i did but what command? |
| 13:56.47 | fken | ok i fix the issue by simply using the kde display configure screen |
| 13:56.59 | jbz_ba | Hello All... Anyone knows what's the name of the IRC Room of debian-i18n project? |
| 13:57.14 | Tolimar | fken: Hmmm... okay, let's try something: remove the ppracer configuration with "mv ~/.ppracer ~/.ppracer.old" and see if ppracer works now. |
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| 13:57.53 | cheal | Andy837: by example # apt-get remove apache-common |
| 13:57.56 | Andale | Hello at everyone |
| 13:58.01 | fken | still crash |
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| 13:58.10 | niekniek | hello! i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share. |
| 13:58.14 | fken | (i still have a segfault |
| 13:58.25 | Andale | I have a problem with internet connection, who can help me? :) |
| 13:58.30 | Tolimar | fken: Damn... oh... wait... are you using etch/sid or sarge? |
| 13:58.34 | fken | there is a problem with fullscreen |
| 13:58.38 | fken | etch |
| 13:58.45 | fken | amd64 |
| 13:58.50 | cheal | jbz_ba: is there supposed to be such a project and such a room? |
| 13:58.54 | niekniek | snif... nobody seems to know these things |
| 13:58.55 | fken | 2.6.12-1 |
| 13:59.24 | zerve_the_death | fken did you install nvidia drivers ? |
| 13:59.25 | cheal | davvin: you'd have to backport the sid package to sarge |
| 13:59.47 | fken | zerve_the_death: off course |
| 13:59.54 | Tolimar | fken: Sorry. I didn't had time till now to create proper ppracer packages for Xorg. (I'm just about to do that)... |
| 13:59.54 | fken | NB : i played ppracer before |
| 14:00.10 | Tolimar | fken: Even after the XFree Xorg transition in etch? |
| 14:00.16 | fken | Tolimar: oh you work on the package ? |
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| 14:00.27 | Tolimar | fken: Yes, I'm the maintainer. |
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| 14:01.12 | niekniek | i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share. |
| 14:01.17 | fken | Tolimar: yeah everything works with xorg : today its the first time it refuse to work |
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| 14:01.18 | niekniek | anyon??? |
| 14:01.24 | niekniek | *e :) |
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| 14:01.33 | Tolimar | fken: My theory is: Since I didn't changed them since the sarge release, they still want to use the old libraries (especially XFree and SDL), they were compiled with. But since then much changed, including XFree -> Xorg :( |
| 14:01.56 | Tolimar | fken: Sorry. I'm working on new packages... they should be ready by this afternoon. |
| 14:02.09 | fken | Tolimar: under amd64? |
| 14:02.13 | Andy837 | i did the apt-get remove and it didn't work |
| 14:02.19 | theD3viL | If i would like to have sid and now have sarge.. and if i dist-upgrade will be still good? like if i will do fresh install of sid? |
| 14:02.20 | Andy837 | so it said do apt-get update |
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| 14:02.37 | Tolimar | fken: No, I don't have an amd64... sorry :( |
| 14:02.40 | cheal | !tell theD3viL about iyhtays |
| 14:03.06 | valdyn | theD3viL: upgrading sarge to get to sid is actually the best option |
| 14:03.17 | fken | tolimar: then its possible that the issue is an amd64 release issue |
| 14:03.21 | theD3viL | valdyn, hm..why ? |
| 14:03.23 | valdyn | theD3viL: since the sid installer hardly is usuable right now |
| 14:03.52 | davvin | cheal, that sounds neat. how is that done? :P |
| 14:04.00 | Tolimar | fken: One second... powering on my sid machine... |
| 14:04.03 | theD3viL | valdyn, what about programs and libaries..will all worked ? |
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| 14:04.22 | cheal | !tell davvin about backport |
| 14:04.25 | valdyn | theD3viL: sid is called unstable for a reason, that has nothing to do with the upgrade process itself |
| 14:04.28 | fken | Tolimar: oh and is there a unrar software under etch ? |
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| 14:04.43 | fken | Tolimar: because i cannot use unrar-free |
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| 14:05.35 | theD3viL | valdyn, yes i know.. but i am asking if dist-upgrade upgrade all packages .. or some yes some not and it wont be compatibile |
| 14:05.58 | Tolimar | fken: Oh, it works. That's the end of my "doesn't work because of the transitions" theorie... could you ploease report a bug? And please edit "~/.ppracer/options" and change "set write_diagnostic_log false" to "set write_diagnostic_log true", and attach diagnostic_log.txt to the bug report? |
| 14:06.03 | Andy837 | why when i do an apt-get update do i get this error.... |
| 14:06.05 | valdyn | !sid faq |
| 14:06.05 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 14:06.12 | Andy837 | Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 14:06.15 | valdyn | theD3viL: maybe |
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| 14:06.23 | abrotman | Andy837: which ones are failing ? |
| 14:06.31 | Tolimar | fken: Sorry, I don't use rar very often, I don't know. |
| 14:06.31 | theD3viL | valdyn, what do you using |
| 14:06.32 | theD3viL | ? |
| 14:06.35 | fken | Tolimar: how can i report this bug ? |
| 14:06.37 | valdyn | theD3viL: mixed systems however are impossible to support here or anywhere |
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| 14:07.07 | l3m | i'm using stock debian kernel 2.6.14-1-686 and i get tons of undefined symbol errors in alsa (snd_intel8x0 ... ). Any ideas how to fix this? |
| 14:07.10 | en1gma | sup all |
| 14:07.13 | Andy837 | Err http://debian.mirrors.easynet.fr testing/main Packages |
| 14:07.13 | Andy837 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:07.17 | Andy837 | its a few of them |
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| 14:07.38 | Tolimar | fken: Install reportbug and run "reportbug planetpenguin-racer", more details at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
| 14:07.41 | l3m | anyone knows the new marillat repository? the one i have is no longer working... |
| 14:07.43 | jelly | Eh, is 2.6.14 out? |
| 14:07.57 | valdyn | l3m: hows your sources.lst line looking? |
| 14:08.02 | en1gma | i have an ati x800xl vcard (using the ati prop driver) and i just picked up an ati tv wonder ve. im wondering does linux work with these tv cards? |
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| 14:08.45 | l3m | valdyn: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 14:08.48 | fken | Tolimar : it seems that i have no ~/.ppracer/options |
| 14:09.03 | valdyn | l3m: replace 'unstable' with 'sid' and you should be fine |
| 14:09.23 | l3m | valdyn: oh..thanks ;) |
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| 14:11.10 | Andy837 | so what can i do about the updates that fails? |
| 14:11.33 | l3m | apt-get complains that W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 14:11.35 | Tolimar | fken: Oh... than your ppracer is crashing realy early in startup... then please run "strace -o ppracer-log ppracer", that will log pretty much everything ppracer is doing. Please attach that file (preferably gziped if it's to large) or at least the last 50 lines (that should show me, were the error occurs). |
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| 14:12.19 | liable | l3m: please read the marillat page, it explains it all. |
| 14:12.29 | fken | Tolimar : Ades:/home/fken# strace -o ppracer-log ppracer |
| 14:12.29 | fken | strace: ppracer: command not found |
| 14:12.51 | Tolimar | l3m: Run "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 07DC563D1F41B907 ; gpg --armor --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | apt-key add -". Read "man apt-key" and "man apt-secure" what changed... |
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| 14:12.56 | liable | guess its not installed then.. |
| 14:13.13 | l3m | Tolimar, liable: thanks |
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| 14:13.45 | Tolimar | fken: Uhm... I'm confused. You have etch, right? And you try to run the game "planetpenguin-racer", the succesor of tuxracer? |
| 14:13.52 | fken | l3m: and maybe apt-get install debian-keyring before... |
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| 14:14.10 | fken | Tolimar: yes i am |
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| 14:14.36 | fken | Tolimar: but i dunno what strace is so maybe its not installed |
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| 14:14.57 | Andy837 | why do i get errors when i do apt-get update |
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| 14:15.14 | Tolimar | fken: Argl... you are getting me right in a cold ;) |
| 14:15.22 | fken | Andy837: depends on the error |
| 14:15.51 | fken | oh gosh : i bugged tolimar |
| 14:15.59 | Andy837 | ok iwill run again and paste - but i get a lot of 404 not found |
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| 14:16.31 | liable | Andy837: non-us? |
| 14:16.47 | Andy837 | how you mean? |
| 14:16.54 | Tolimar | fken: strace is a tool, which logs what a programm does: Which files it want to access, which libraries it tries to load, etc. It's usefull for debugging purpose. It's in the package "strace", so please install that. |
| 14:17.09 | liable | just paste the error. |
| 14:17.17 | niekniek | hello! i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share. |
| 14:17.39 | fken | Tolimar: ok i install it |
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| 14:17.59 | Andy837 | Err http://debian.mines.inpl-nancy.fr testing/main Packages |
| 14:17.59 | Andy837 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:18.05 | kryl | hi |
| 14:18.07 | kryl | kryl # ifconfig eth0 192.1.1.1 |
| 14:18.07 | kryl | kryl tg3: tg3_reset_hw timed out for eth0, firmware will not restart magic=4b566554 |
| 14:18.07 | liable | good luck making sense of it.. |
| 14:18.13 | fken | Tolimar: it was already installed |
| 14:18.13 | kryl | what's the matter? |
| 14:18.26 | liable | Andy837: thats a dns problem |
| 14:18.38 | Andy837 | any clue how i can resolve? |
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| 14:19.15 | fken | Andy837: wait its the only way |
| 14:19.35 | Tolimar | fken: Uhm... what's the output of "dpkg -l planetpenguin-racer tuxracer"? |
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| 14:19.43 | liable | Andy837: you can access the internet on that box otherwise? |
| 14:19.43 | fken | Andy837:i already had that problem some monthes before : it means that the server isnt reachable |
| 14:19.57 | Andy837 | yeh, i can browse no probs |
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| 14:20.10 | liable | Andy837: try another mirror |
| 14:20.16 | Andy837 | how i do thst? |
| 14:20.25 | liable | apt-setup |
| 14:20.27 | fken | ii planetpenguin- 0.3.1-2 another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Li |
| 14:20.28 | fken | ii tuxracer 0.61-7 dummy transition package |
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| 14:20.59 | kryl | why the firmware can't restart magic ??? |
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| 14:21.27 | eliteforce | morning |
| 14:21.35 | fken | morning |
| 14:21.53 | fken | Tolimar: do you want anymore ? |
| 14:22.00 | Tolimar | fken: Hmmm... to ppracer is installed, why isn't it found? Does the strace work, if you run it with "strace -o ppracer-log /usr/games/ppracer" |
| 14:22.03 | Tolimar | ? |
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| 14:22.49 | demios | my laptop refuses to boot from the hard disk. i ripped out the hard disk and booted from a live cd, and can access the disk fine with a usb cable. e2fsck doesn't find anything wrong with the disk. how can i check that the boot sector hasn't been corrupted/reinstall the boot sector, which was created by lilo? |
| 14:23.00 | Tolimar | fken: Did you try to run the strace command as root? That would explain, why strace didn't found ppracer. /usr/games/ isn't in the default PATH of rooot... |
| 14:23.38 | mrverbos1 | when i try to start an application via sudo that requires x, it doesnt gain access to the xserver though the xauthority file indicates it should have access |
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| 14:23.56 | black_Nightmare | hey ;-) |
| 14:24.00 | fken | Tolimar: its possible : root returns no opengl with the last command |
| 14:24.04 | liable | gksu, sux |
| 14:24.05 | mrverbos1 | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 14:24.05 | mrverbos1 | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 14:24.06 | mrverbos1 | (mozilla-thunderbird-bin:29937): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 14:24.13 | mrverbos1 | this is the exact errormessage |
| 14:24.24 | fken | Tolimar: moreover i cannot use strace with a simple user right |
| 14:24.30 | fken | strace: can't fopen 'ppracer-log': Permission denied |
| 14:24.32 | mrverbos1 | liable: which is why i am not using it |
| 14:24.47 | liable | why would you run thunderbird as root? |
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| 14:25.01 | mrverbos1 | liable: i run it as a non privileged user via sudo |
| 14:25.15 | Tolimar | fken: Then please change to a directory, where you user has write permission ;) Or run "strace -o /tmp/ppracer-log /usr/games/ppracer" and attach /tmp/ppracer-log ;) |
| 14:25.22 | mrverbos1 | the reason: isolating it from the rest of the user account |
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| 14:25.55 | mrverbos1 | mostly i do this to isolate my browser, doing it with my mailclient as well is not necessary but since the script was working on gentoo, i decided to use it for thunderbird as well |
| 14:26.04 | l3m | i'm using stock debian kernel 2.6.14-1-686 and i get tons of undefined symbol errors in alsa (snd_intel8x0 ... ). Any ideas how to fix this? |
| 14:26.19 | mrverbos1 | l3m: yes, compile it yourself |
| 14:26.26 | sanoj | sarek: in 2.6.14 the vga16 (or something like that) driver was dropped and vesafb is now used instead. So go check if supported options or option syntax have changed... |
| 14:26.53 | TheCount | moin |
| 14:26.56 | l3m | mrverbos1: hmm i like using stock kernels, and it worked up to now ( 2.6.14-1-686 ) .. i'm sure there's another solution? |
| 14:27.14 | fken | Tolimar: where is ppracer-log ? |
| 14:27.15 | mrverbos1 | l3m apart from waiting for a fixed version: no |
| 14:27.18 | Andy837 | what mirror will be best for me (UK) |
| 14:27.29 | l3m | mrverbos1: ah ok ty |
| 14:27.52 | mlewis00 | What does this mean: 'BOOTLOGD: (/dev/ttyzf, TIICONS): bad file descriptor' and then the bootlogd doesn't work? |
| 14:27.53 | liable | l3m: you are running sid, file abug, and wait till its fixed, or try and fix it. |
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| 14:28.30 | Tolimar | fken: Depends how you called strace: If you used "strace -o ppracer-log ..." it should be in the very same directory you are in right now. If you called "strace -o /tmp/ppracer-log ..." than it should be in /tmp. |
| 14:29.47 | l3m | liable: writing a bug report now... |
| 14:30.16 | azeem | Tolimar: are you still at the uni? |
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| 14:30.30 | Tolimar | fken: Normaly strace dumps all the information to the screen. With the "-o" option you tell him, to put everything in a file. You just need to tell him which file. So the "-o ppracer-log" is just a file name, strace is using the current directory. With "-o /tmp/..." you give him a full path to a file. Everything clear? |
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| 14:30.56 | fken | strace -o ppracer-log ppracer |
| 14:31.04 | docelic | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.12 | Tolimar | azeem: No, havn't been there. I have a cold and feld to ill. So I decided uni can wait. |
| 14:31.26 | azeem | ugh :-/ |
| 14:31.32 | azeem | gute Besserung |
| 14:31.32 | Tolimar | azeem: Sorry, forgot you :( |
| 14:31.35 | liable | docelic: more info needed |
| 14:31.37 | Tolimar | Danke. |
| 14:31.37 | azeem | np |
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| 14:32.00 | sarek | sanoj: I just tried with video=vesafb,1024x768-32@60 didn't work either - but I found this bugreport: #333003 it's for -686 but maybe relevant for -k7 as well |
| 14:32.28 | docelic | liable I am looking for instructions on connecting to a WAN, where user/pwd is required |
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| 14:32.44 | asg | docelic: in what sense are you using WAN here? |
| 14:33.05 | liable | docelic: like connect to an isp? |
| 14:33.08 | fken | ok Tolimar i finally success using strace : but the strace -o ppracer-log ppracer didnt work on the current dir |
| 14:33.44 | docelic | asg, liable sorry I was a little stupid, it's a PPPoE thing.. |
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| 14:33.52 | docelic | nice to see you asg, btw :) |
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| 14:34.02 | asg | docelic: it's been a long time, are you still doing the guide? |
| 14:34.17 | fken | Tolimar: do you want the complete file ? |
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| 14:34.29 | fken | 134kb |
| 14:34.34 | Andy837 | still struggling with APT - added loads of sources |
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| 14:34.47 | asg | docelic: I did see you mentioned in Martin's book which I bought the other day :) |
| 14:34.48 | docelic | asg yes, I rewrote it.. http://colt.projectgamma.com/hands-on/ |
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| 14:34.54 | docelic | asg :) |
| 14:35.04 | possie | i got a Ultrium LTO tape drive, but now i'm rewinding the tape, with mt rewind, first time it did it in 15minutes, but now it's allready running 1192minutes, when i look at the output of top, it still lookes like it's doing something, als the load of the machine is 1.0 what could be the problem of this? |
| 14:35.18 | asg | docelic: oh, nice. I haven't looked at the guide in years. |
| 14:35.22 | Tolimar | fken: Yes, please. You put it somewhere online, so I can fetch it? |
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| 14:35.32 | docelic | asg ok Im out, cya later |
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| 14:35.39 | TheCount | possie: try an strace on the mt process to see if there is really something happening |
| 14:35.43 | dob1 | hi |
| 14:35.51 | possie | TheCount: okee |
| 14:35.59 | fken | Tolimar: dont you think 134kb could be a big size for pastebin ? |
| 14:36.07 | Andale | I'm looking for a free software to do a backup of Partition Table. Someone can help me? |
| 14:36.13 | Tolimar | fken: Oh, yes. soory ;) |
| 14:36.17 | liable | cfdisk |
| 14:36.30 | Andy837 | any suggestion on what source i should use for apt-get |
| 14:36.32 | liable | sfdisk... |
| 14:36.36 | TheCount | Andale: dd if=/dev/hda of=mgr.imb bs=512 count=1 |
| 14:36.53 | liable | Andy837: man sfdisk |
| 14:37.02 | dob1 | with an amd64 i have to install the deb 64bit or i can use the classic debian? |
| 14:37.06 | Andy837 | whats sfdisk |
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| 14:37.29 | TheCount | dob1: you can use both, but I'd suggest amd64 |
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| 14:37.39 | Andy837 | why do i need sfdisk i dont understand :s |
| 14:37.53 | liable | Andy837: read the damn docs for it. |
| 14:37.58 | TheCount | Andy837: you don't, his nickname completion went wrong |
| 14:38.13 | Andy837 | oh ok |
| 14:38.16 | liable | TheCount: err, no. |
| 14:38.21 | nekostar | so i think im tired of ubuntu... i want something a little more powerful... and im thinking debian ~_^ |
| 14:38.29 | dob1 | TheCount, the problem is that my old pc(not 64bit) is gone and i have to buy new motherboard/cpu and the one that i will buy is an sempron 64bit, my old debian will work? |
| 14:38.39 | Andy837 | so what source should i use :| |
| 14:38.40 | nekostar | i remember debian just flying on this system when a friend set it up... |
| 14:38.42 | l3m | nekostar: powerful? |
| 14:38.47 | TheCount | liable: err, yes? |
| 14:38.57 | nekostar | l3m, faster |
| 14:38.58 | TheCount | dob1: yupp |
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| 14:39.20 | TheCount | Andy837: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 14:39.25 | nekostar | im running ubuntu//openbox instead of ubuntu/gnome/metacity atm |
| 14:39.25 | dob1 | TheCount, you suggest me to use amd64 release only for performance or for another reason? |
| 14:39.30 | liable | TheCount: err, yes *blush* |
| 14:39.41 | TheCount | liable: ;) |
| 14:39.49 | l3m | nekostar: i don't think there are noticable performance differences between ubuntu and debian, when using the same DE/window manager and so... |
| 14:39.50 | TheCount | dob1: for example :) |
| 14:39.56 | nekostar | right |
| 14:40.10 | nekostar | i would not want to use metacity nor nautilus |
| 14:40.11 | fken | argh !!! there is no amarok !!! |
| 14:40.12 | dob1 | TheCount, the important thing is that my old debian installation will work :) |
| 14:40.15 | Andale | TheCount and How do I do to recover the partition table conteined in backup? |
| 14:40.31 | nekostar | and i would want to do a minimum install and just grab apps as needed. |
| 14:40.44 | TheCount | Andale: dd of=/dev/hda if=mgr.imb bs=512 count=1 |
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| 14:40.52 | TheCount | dob1: it will. |
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| 14:41.13 | theD3viL | valdyn, sry, been on the lunch...hm..i have a question .. what is "better" for workstation? testing or unstable? i mean..is unstable realy have so many buggs? |
| 14:41.13 | l3m | nekostar: well i don't want to convince you not to use debian but you could just apt-get uninstall those apps you don'0t need in ubuntu |
| 14:41.23 | l3m | apt-get remove of course |
| 14:41.23 | fken | rythmNbox is stupid enough to says there is no /dev/dsp |
| 14:41.29 | nekostar | yeah i know :P |
| 14:41.50 | l3m | nekostar: apart from that, debian > ubuntu ;) |
| 14:41.54 | Andale | TheCount: thanks |
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| 14:42.03 | nekostar | i just remember sarge working better when it was in almost a year ago... |
| 14:42.08 | nekostar | and i know its much more solid :D |
| 14:42.46 | dob1 | TheCount, thanks |
| 14:43.29 | TheCount | no problem at all |
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| 14:44.27 | asg | theD3viL: you can also use stable as a workstation then you don't have to worry about borkage |
| 14:44.30 | fken | and now its totem which crash |
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| 14:44.45 | fken | arg... why do i install kde 3.4 ? |
| 14:45.10 | possie | TheCount: looks like it just sits there ... fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFIFO|0600, st_size=0, ...}) = 0read(3, |
| 14:45.13 | liable | dpkg: talk like a pirate |
| 14:45.21 | theD3viL | asg, yes now i have sarge..but im wondering what is different in testing or unstable. |
| 14:45.51 | TheCount | possie: doesn't look good. why not simply use the rewinding variant of the tape device, if you don't use a backup software which does tape handling for you? |
| 14:45.52 | liable | !wake up |
| 14:45.52 | dpkg | liable: I'm already awake! :) |
| 14:45.52 | nekostar | fken, try xine yet? |
| 14:45.59 | l3m | fken: eye candy? :) |
| 14:46.02 | asg | theD3viL: testing is likely to have fewer bugs than unstable at any time. There are no guarantees, however. |
| 14:46.19 | l3m | fken: mplayer is best :) |
| 14:46.47 | fken | l3m:mplayer is missing |
| 14:46.55 | asg | fken: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 14:46.58 | theD3viL | asg, so you trying to tell me to have sarge on.. ? |
| 14:46.59 | TheCount | possie: RTFM if you don't even know what I'm talking about ;) |
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| 14:47.27 | asg | theD3viL: I'm saying that you should use sarge unless you have a compelling reason to need the newer software in testing or unstable and you don't want to fool with backports. |
| 14:47.38 | asg | theD3viL: your choice is, of course, you own. |
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| 14:48.00 | Andy837 | where is the source file kept? |
| 14:48.15 | theD3viL | asg, yes i know...i think i will stay on with sarge. |
| 14:48.47 | teclo | Know some free webmail site that will not truncate lines at 40 charachters like mail.yahoo.com does ? |
| 14:49.11 | HeyAdamim | is there any person to talk?plz girls:D |
| 14:49.19 | abrotman | HeyAdamim: me! |
| 14:49.30 | abrotman | thank goodness . i finalyl found a real man |
| 14:49.35 | xelam | a real man eh |
| 14:49.35 | jelly | abrotman: a/s/l *snicker* |
| 14:49.36 | xelam | mmm |
| 14:49.42 | TheCount | HeyAdamim: how about a nutcase? ;) |
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| 14:50.22 | HeyAdamim | hi saju |
| 14:50.28 | yure | hy, if I want to backup my entire home dir (with confs) can |
| 14:50.37 | jelly | Woo! Wine is beta, after 12 years. I still remember when it only ran winemine *sniff* |
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| 14:50.42 | yure | disregard this line |
| 14:51.04 | theD3viL | asg, yea...i have one more question ... i have yamaha 744b soundcard with hardware mixing .. however..all sounds are playing well, only when have turn on TeamSpeak2 my sounds dont works ... i thing only OSS .. but OSS using all the games .. |
| 14:51.29 | valdyn | theD3viL: maybe try 'aoss teamspeak' |
| 14:51.39 | fken | gxine doesnt work |
| 14:51.41 | TheCount | theD3viL: wrong dsp device? |
| 14:51.47 | theD3viL | valdyn, aoss dont work |
| 14:51.54 | theD3viL | The_Vulture, no../dev/dsp |
| 14:52.36 | theD3viL | valdyn, and no...why aoss .. it must work if i have hardware mixing |
| 14:52.43 | fken | there is no more k3b |
| 14:52.55 | valdyn | theD3viL: my cheap on board soundcard junk has 2 dsps in /dev |
| 14:53.11 | valdyn | theD3viL: maybe yours does.. have you looked? |
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| 14:53.17 | theD3viL | valdyn, hm...no not jet |
| 14:53.20 | TheCount | theD3viL: if you have hardware mixing you need to use different dsps nonetheless. if you don't let your software know, it won't, period. |
| 14:54.02 | theD3viL | valdyn, only dsp. |
| 14:54.03 | fken | so see you soon |
| 14:54.04 | HeyAdamim | is there any person to talk? |
| 14:54.06 | fken | bye bye |
| 14:54.10 | xelam | HeyAdamim: what? |
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| 14:54.23 | xelam | bye then |
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| 14:54.50 | Andy837 | this apt-get update still wont run - i've tried loads of sources |
| 14:54.52 | theD3viL | The_Vulture, valdyn, and its weard why i cant have ALSA sound in gnome? At multimedia selector i have ALSA and go to TEST button.. and error. |
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| 14:55.03 | lupz | hi all, is there a way to make alsa behave like esd so that if more that one app access the soundcard it "mixes" the sounds ? |
| 14:55.04 | valdyn | theD3viL: kill esd |
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| 14:55.10 | valdyn | !esd |
| 14:55.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, esd is the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 14:55.11 | cahoot | theD3viL: http://tinyurl.com/dog6e |
| 14:55.28 | valdyn | lupz: /msg dpkg dmix |
| 14:55.53 | HeyAdamim | is there any person to talk? |
| 14:55.59 | xelam | HeyAdamim: shut up |
| 14:56.02 | valdyn | !tell HeyAdamim -about ask |
| 14:56.19 | theD3viL | cahoot, tnx |
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| 14:57.20 | HeyAdamim | i wanna talk in private |
| 14:57.24 | TheCount | HeyAdamim: go away |
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| 14:57.38 | TheCount | HeyAdamim: or GFAS. but do it somewhere else, and don't come back. thank you. |
| 14:57.38 | theD3viL | HeyAdamim, try #gays |
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| 14:58.22 | HeyAdamim | u try gays i wanna girl ok? |
| 14:58.52 | xelam | HeyAdamim: this is not the place to ask, so piss off :P |
| 14:59.24 | abrotman | HeyAdamim: i'm a girl |
| 14:59.38 | theD3viL | HeyAdamim, /server ircnet.yourstate ;) |
| 14:59.46 | abrotman | why won't any guys talk to me |
| 14:59.55 | theD3viL | abrotman, :) |
| 14:59.59 | asuffield | because you're ugly |
| 15:00.10 | asg | abrotman: you have a silly hat that damog sent you |
| 15:00.10 | abrotman | all the guys say the moustache feels nifty :) |
| 15:00.39 | x64Bender | /leave #debian mop |
| 15:00.40 | theD3viL | valdyn, killesd dont help > Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' |
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| 15:00.53 | HeyAdamim | all of u are empty ppl |
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| 15:01.00 | Andy837 | can someone please help me with APT-GET PLEASE |
| 15:01.03 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 15:01.09 | theD3viL | Andy837, yes. |
| 15:01.14 | TheCount | Andy837: what was you problem again? |
| 15:01.15 | asuffield | and yet none of us are going into tech support channels and begging for a fuck |
| 15:01.20 | CereaL | is this the right channel to get help with lilo ??? |
| 15:01.24 | asg | HeyAdamim: empty powerpoint presentations? |
| 15:01.24 | abrotman | my apt-get doesn't support the please action |
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| 15:01.39 | Andy837 | i have put in loads of sources but it fails on the updates |
| 15:01.55 | TheCount | Andy837: well, then debug that line by line? |
| 15:01.55 | xelam | the sources must be invalid then |
| 15:01.58 | resiak | So maybe some of the sources are not right. Why did you put in loads of sources? |
| 15:02.01 | asg | Andy837: then use 'apt-setup' and configure correct sources, not some crap you found on the net |
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| 15:02.14 | Andy837 | asg: how? |
| 15:02.18 | abrotman | hehe |
| 15:02.22 | asg | Andy837: type 'apt-setup' pick a mirror |
| 15:02.24 | abrotman | how to run the program ? |
| 15:02.24 | Andy837 | can someone send me there sourcelist? |
| 15:02.49 | asmodaiii | Andy837: get your own sources.list |
| 15:02.54 | TheCount | Andy837: no, use apt-setup |
| 15:03.07 | xelam | I don't use apt-setup |
| 15:03.14 | xelam | the sources I want aren't there :( |
| 15:03.19 | asmodaiii | xelam: although its really usefull... |
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| 15:03.27 | asmodaiii | apt-get.org |
| 15:03.28 | xelam | it's not useful to me |
| 15:03.30 | theD3viL | xelam, and what sources do you need ? |
| 15:03.36 | xelam | mirrorservice.org |
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| 15:03.41 | xelam | which is on the same LAN as me |
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| 15:03.58 | theD3viL | nice |
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| 15:04.47 | Andy837 | so i go into apt-setup and select a source - done |
| 15:05.00 | abrotman | and what ? |
| 15:05.07 | Andy837 | now i run apt-get update |
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| 15:06.13 | abrotman | !paste |
| 15:06.13 | dpkg | well, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 15:06.28 | CereaL | anyone able to help me with lilo ?? or least point me in the direction of help ? |
| 15:06.28 | asg | !crabpaste |
| 15:06.29 | dpkg | http://importfood.com/media/cppk0701.jpg or a sandwich spread, nice in sandwiches. thomas_adam owes abrotman a jar or three of this. See <cheesesteak> |
| 15:06.44 | asg | CereaL: it helps to know what your problem is (/msg dpkg smart questions) |
| 15:06.48 | abrotman | CereaL: help with what ? |
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| 15:06.58 | abrotman | !fuck svg |
| 15:07.04 | CereaL | well when i boot my machine .. it comes up saying LI then freezes |
| 15:07.09 | asg | CereaL: /msg dpkg li |
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| 15:07.48 | mariani | ah LI :) |
| 15:07.52 | mariani | sound familiar |
| 15:07.54 | JohnGH | Is there anyone around who's familiar with clustering on HP DL380s ? |
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| 15:08.15 | CereaL | yeah li sucks :( |
| 15:08.29 | CereaL | am i farked if i didnt create a rescue disk ?? |
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| 15:08.41 | mariani | that's what's left over from LILO after the MBR get's written over |
| 15:08.47 | abrotman | JohnGH: why is the DL380 special ? |
| 15:08.48 | asg | CereaL: use the install disc or knoppix |
| 15:08.49 | TheCount | CereaL: no, just use any rescue disc/cd. even the debian install cd should help. |
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| 15:09.03 | clusty | how can i configure gdm to give me a window to log in a remote machine? |
| 15:09.04 | mariani | knoppix to the rescue |
| 15:09.11 | TheCount | mariani: nah, not really ;) |
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| 15:09.37 | asg | mariani: or a slackware install disc; practially anything works |
| 15:09.55 | CereaL | cheers guys |
| 15:09.56 | mariani | TheCount: ok, I'm just guessing, at least that's what I thought it was |
| 15:10.06 | JohnGH | abrotman: well the hardware I'm playing with is all HP - including the Modular Smart Array 1000, the software I'm setting up wants to know about Fencing, but I don't know where to find out the info I need for it. |
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| 15:10.22 | theD3viL | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.30 | abrotman | JohnGH: and this is debian ? |
| 15:10.33 | TheCount | mariani: please refrain from guessing if you're willing to help ;) |
| 15:10.47 | mariani | does anyone here know what the Emtydir is for in the CVSROOT directory? |
| 15:10.49 | veleno | hello everyone. how do i cnahge system time, or better how to i synchronize to some server providing the right time? |
| 15:11.00 | mariani | I tried google but that doesn't help |
| 15:11.01 | JohnGH | abrotman: the software I'm installing isn't no. |
| 15:11.03 | RockyaBody | ultraim ultra messenger's serial number? |
| 15:11.04 | TheCount | veleno: apt-get install ntpdate ntp-simple |
| 15:11.10 | asg | mariani: did you try #cvs |
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| 15:11.32 | mariani | good idea, thanks :) |
| 15:11.46 | theD3viL | anyone :S |
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| 15:12.16 | abrotman | JohnGH: what kind of software is it ? |
| 15:12.37 | TheCount | veleno: you might want to fine tune the ntp-servers, i.e. add more, especially close ones |
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| 15:12.46 | boci^ | hi |
| 15:12.50 | Andy837 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1034 |
| 15:12.53 | Andy837 | thats the output |
| 15:12.54 | JohnGH | abrotman: A clustering suite |
| 15:13.01 | boci^ | How can I "disable" exim4-config? |
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| 15:13.09 | boci^ | I want to configure bu hand |
| 15:13.18 | boci^ | (exim4-config not support mysql) |
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| 15:13.29 | boci^ | because exim4 init script need exim4-config files |
| 15:13.30 | TheCount | JohnGH: uh, that's far too specific. could you be a little more abstract, please? |
| 15:13.39 | TheCount | JohnGH: has it something to do with computers? |
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| 15:14.05 | TheCount | boci^: well, just exchange the config files it brings? |
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| 15:14.07 | JohnGH | TheCount: I hope so, but I'm not sure :-| |
| 15:14.36 | TheCount | Andy837: uh, you're not supposed to copy/paste what apt-get update gives you |
| 15:14.38 | boci^ | TheCount: the init script generate the config file |
| 15:14.47 | JohnGH | abrotman: Do you mind if I msg you please? |
| 15:14.56 | Andy837 | what should i paste then? |
| 15:15.19 | TheCount | Andy837: ah - and you've partly got a nameserver, partly a mirror problem |
| 15:15.35 | TheCount | boci^: yes. edit the stuff in /etc/exim4/conf.d/* |
| 15:15.35 | abrotman | JohnGH: rather you keep it in the channel .. |
| 15:15.43 | abrotman | JohnGH: did you pay for your clustering stuff ? |
| 15:15.45 | TheCount | Andy837: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
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| 15:15.50 | boci^ | TheCount: ok but which stuff? |
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| 15:15.59 | TheCount | Andy837: put this in the /etc/apt/sources.list, and nothing else, then try again |
| 15:15.59 | asg | boci^: just create your own /etc/exim4/exim.conf (see /usr/share/doc/exim4-*/README.Debian) |
| 15:16.06 | boci^ | hmmm |
| 15:16.21 | TheCount | boci^: if you don't know what you're doing, learn more about it. see asg. |
| 15:16.27 | TheCount | boci^: #exim |
| 15:16.44 | boci^ | thnx |
| 15:16.50 | JohnGH | abrotman: I didn't - it's someone else's and I'm trying to help him - but the questions I need to ask are not relevent to debian users - I'm just trying to find any humans who might be able to give me some tips today. |
| 15:17.07 | asg | boci^: sorry, it was /etc/exim4/exim4.conf that you need to create |
| 15:17.08 | JohnGH | and yes, he paid for it |
| 15:17.21 | boci^ | thnxthnx |
| 15:17.24 | asg | TheCount: this is a debian issue that he's asking about, not an exim one in particular |
| 15:17.47 | Andy837 | ok, trying again |
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| 15:17.52 | TheCount | asg: he should be able to find his way in the exim4 config directory, thou |
| 15:18.04 | abrotman | JohnGH: i haven't done any myself .. there is no #mpi ? |
| 15:18.06 | abrotman | !mpi |
| 15:18.07 | dpkg | hmm... mpi is Message Passing Interface, a parallel programming standard for SMPs and clusters. http://www.mcs.anl.gov/mpi. It is a library specification for message-passing proposed as a standard. MPI was designed for high performance on both massively parallel machines and on workstation clusters. See MPICH and MPILAM. |
| 15:18.26 | asg | TheCount: true, reading /usr/share/doc/foo/README.Debian{.gz} should be a requirement for all installed packages ;) |
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| 15:18.39 | Andy837 | ok that updated ok i think |
| 15:18.48 | cahoot | could be a replacement for #debian too |
| 15:18.54 | TheCount | Andy837: ok, now try: |
| 15:18.59 | TheCount | Andy837: deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
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| 15:19.26 | TheCount | cahoot: nah, you don't get the boose and the hilarious users without it |
| 15:19.32 | TheCount | s/boose/booze/ |
| 15:19.56 | Andy837 | why do i need that one too? |
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| 15:20.49 | asg | speaking of booze |
| 15:20.56 | TheCount | Andy837: you should exchange the other one. it should be closer to you, i.e. faster for you, costing less bandwidth for everyone else |
| 15:21.12 | Andy837 | ah right (Y) |
| 15:21.17 | Andy837 | is there a UK one? |
| 15:21.20 | TheCount | Andy837: sure |
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| 15:22.37 | Andy837 | so in sources.list i should have..... |
| 15:22.45 | Andy837 | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 15:22.47 | Andy837 | and nothing else? |
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| 15:23.27 | TheCount | Andy837: I'd suggest: |
| 15:23.38 | TheCount | Andy837: deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
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| 15:24.06 | Andy837 | what difference eis the -src? |
| 15:24.13 | TheCount | Andy837: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main non-free contrib |
| 15:24.14 | asg | TheCount: didn't his paste indicate he was using testing though? |
| 15:24.21 | TheCount | Andy837: as well .. |
| 15:24.35 | TheCount | asg: .. which is not what I'd suggest him to do ;) |
| 15:24.50 | Andy837 | so i have got three lines in there now |
| 15:24.53 | TheCount | Andy837: the -src part gives you the possibility to get sources for the packages as well |
| 15:24.55 | asg | TheCount: of course but it might be too late at this point ;) |
| 15:25.32 | TheCount | Andy837: yes. now do an "apt-get update" and then and then "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 15:25.43 | TheCount | asg: probably. |
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| 15:26.18 | Andy837 | whats dist-upgrade |
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| 15:26.23 | Andy837 | gets latest debian? |
| 15:26.39 | TheCount | Andy837: please have a look at http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html |
| 15:26.47 | TheCount | Andy837: you'll want the latest stable Debian. |
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| 15:27.08 | TheCount | Andy837: don't mess with testing ;) |
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| 15:27.25 | saen__ | hi there, help me with callback pls! |
| 15:27.27 | TheCount | Andy837: and don't listen to strangers telling you what to do!!! |
| 15:27.43 | TheCount | saen__: hi there! no! |
| 15:27.43 | Andy837 | the security one didn't work! |
| 15:27.58 | TheCount | Andy837: uhm, what does it say? |
| 15:28.16 | Andy837 | 404 not found |
| 15:28.26 | TheCount | Andy837: for all three of it, or for just one? |
| 15:28.27 | saen__ | why no? |
| 15:28.38 | TheCount | saen__: help me with green! |
| 15:28.46 | TheCount | saen__: does this make sense? no! |
| 15:29.14 | saen__ | can i paste the text i receive during the server calls me back? |
| 15:29.19 | wang | man grip is great for ripping |
| 15:29.21 | TheCount | !paste |
| 15:29.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 15:29.28 | saen__ | pppd ttyS1 57600 connect 'chat -v -f call_back' crtscts nodetach noipdefault nodefaultroute nopersist usepeerdns |
| 15:29.28 | saen__ | Serial connection established. |
| 15:29.28 | saen__ | using channel 19 |
| 15:29.28 | saen__ | Using interface ppp0 |
| 15:29.28 | saen__ | Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 |
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| 15:29.33 | znx | :\ |
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| 15:29.54 | asg | !qotd114 |
| 15:29.54 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd114 is <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 15:29.55 | znx | TheCount: it was a good attempt.. |
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| 15:30.21 | TheCount | !tell saen__ about paste |
| 15:30.33 | saen__ | i didn't use Ircs, i'm sorry |
| 15:30.37 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 15:30.37 | dpkg | <fenix> My discover is problem people!!! Not find ide or scsi automatic <fenix> Help!! Discover Problem!!! PEOPLE!! <asg> fenix: yes discovering people can be a bit disconcerting |
| 15:30.54 | saen__ | what should i say to get help? |
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| 15:31.08 | saen__ | i'm disappointed! |
| 15:31.19 | asg | saen__: /msg dpkg smart questions |
| 15:31.32 | abrotman | !irritate asg |
| 15:31.33 | dpkg | asg: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses dvd lol |
| 15:31.38 | TheCount | saen__: "oh my divine masters, I bow before thee, and promise to read what I'm told, and to ask questions which allow for answers!" |
| 15:31.54 | asg | abrotman: mailman is irritating me enough this morning :) |
| 15:32.16 | abrotman | asg: it's not that bad .. but i don't archive stuff |
| 15:33.02 | saen__ | can you help me with callback at all? you have used that? |
| 15:33.20 | asg | abrotman: Oh, I like mailman, there's just a bug in the archive code. |
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| 15:33.35 | TheCount | saen__: yes. please type "/msg dpkg smart questions" and "/msg dpkg paste" into your irc client. thank you. |
| 15:33.51 | wang | rofl that's a funny quote |
| 15:33.56 | abrotman | asg: ask #mailman ? |
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| 15:34.52 | [[MeLiSa]] | Vhost |
| 15:34.52 | [[MeLiSa]] | Vhost |
| 15:34.59 | abrotman | [[MeLiSa]]: love me! |
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| 15:35.03 | TheCount | [[MeLiSa]]: hellau! |
| 15:35.08 | wang | omgooses! |
| 15:35.10 | asg | abrotman: it may be fixed upstream, this is on sarge. I worked around it by rewriting the mboxes to alter the offending lines. |
| 15:35.10 | [[MeLiSa]] | ¬¬ |
| 15:35.11 | [[MeLiSa]] | Emm |
| 15:35.12 | [[MeLiSa]] | 8-) |
| 15:35.15 | wang | rofl |
| 15:35.16 | xelam | salt :o |
| 15:35.17 | [[MeLiSa]] | No se ingles viteh |
| 15:35.21 | abrotman | !es |
| 15:35.21 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:35.22 | [[MeLiSa]] | Soy argentina |
| 15:35.22 | wang | really? |
| 15:35.26 | wang | we wouldn't have guessed |
| 15:35.34 | saen__ | ok thx lin users are so cool, i'll rather use m$...bye all |
| 15:35.36 | TheCount | [[MeLiSa]]: english only, sorry :D |
| 15:35.42 | [[MeLiSa]] | ='( |
| 15:35.47 | [[MeLiSa]] | TraduCtor :D |
| 15:35.51 | abrotman | !tell [[MeLiSa]] about es |
| 15:35.52 | wang | tu necessita ayuda en espanol mi morena de me colozon |
| 15:35.57 | wang | jaja |
| 15:36.04 | abrotman | wtf was saen's problem anyways ? |
| 15:36.18 | asg | abrotman: it couldn't ask a question that made sense and assumed that was our fault. |
| 15:36.19 | wang | he doesn't like being competent |
| 15:36.21 | [[MeLiSa]] | Wang |
| 15:36.22 | [[MeLiSa]] | Jasiajsia |
| 15:36.23 | lawnchair | donde esta el bano |
| 15:36.26 | [[MeLiSa]] | Vo sabes español |
| 15:36.27 | asg | [[MeLiSa]]: go away |
| 15:36.28 | xelam | abrotman: head stuck up arse? :) |
| 15:36.28 | iturk | i have a big error with module loading is any place here i can show the error istead this window ? |
| 15:36.29 | [[MeLiSa]] | =O |
| 15:36.30 | TheCount | abrotman: oh, I think his callback server didn't work, and he could neither state a question, nor getting the log pasted *shrug* |
| 15:36.31 | abrotman | [[MeLiSa]]: va a #debian-es |
| 15:36.53 | TheCount | !es |
| 15:36.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 15:37.23 | rossi | anyone knows a bit about vdr? |
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| 15:37.33 | abrotman | asg knows about vd |
| 15:37.34 | vittorio | abrotman, "need help when the server calls him back" whatever this means |
| 15:37.35 | rossi | I have some problems |
| 15:37.37 | asg | iturk: /msg dpkg paste |
| 15:37.46 | wang | i ran into vd once in Thailand |
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| 15:37.47 | asg | abrotman: hah |
| 15:37.50 | TheCount | rossi: pleas feel free to ask |
| 15:37.54 | JohnGH | abrotman: thanks - sorry, my network connection got severed ;o) |
| 15:38.04 | abrotman | JohnGH: oh .. that's always fun |
| 15:38.06 | asg | abrotman: nothing a few beers won't take care of |
| 15:38.28 | abrotman | asg: then you won't care you sleep with! .. brits are so easy :) |
| 15:38.36 | rossi | my prob is when is start vdr that it has a problem with the channels.conf |
| 15:38.37 | wang | rofl |
| 15:38.44 | rossi | and then it stops |
| 15:38.46 | TheCount | rossi: 'a problem'? |
| 15:38.49 | JohnGH | abrotman: the hazards of working in the same computer room as a network guy playing with switches and load balancers ;o) |
| 15:38.51 | iturk | asg: its was 50 lines of code |
| 15:38.53 | wang | don't forgot to pack some toothpaste and a brush |
| 15:39.00 | abrotman | JohnGH: did you smack him in the back of the head ? |
| 15:39.01 | asg | iturk: then use the paster bot (/msg dpkg paster) |
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| 15:39.06 | rossi | I have the channels.conf in the video.00 dir |
| 15:39.20 | gene_v | is there something like distcc in debian? |
| 15:39.22 | JohnGH | abrotman: nah ;o) he wants to help me :o) |
| 15:39.29 | asg | gene_v: yes, distcc in fact |
| 15:39.29 | Guerin | gene_v: distcc |
| 15:39.34 | abrotman | JohnGH: google tells you nothing and there's no #mpi ? |
| 15:39.35 | Guerin | bizarrely |
| 15:39.42 | JohnGH | abrotman: he's doing what he's meant to be doing |
| 15:39.50 | TheCount | rossi: can happen to anyone. please go on. |
| 15:39.51 | asg | abrotman: brits are into deviant sexual practices |
| 15:39.55 | JohnGH | I'm going to /hop #mpi now |
| 15:39.59 | iturk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.59 | iturk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.59 | iturk | In file included from /usr/include/linux/cpumask.h:8, |
| 15:39.59 | iturk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.59 | iturk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.59 | abrotman | asg: sheep ? |
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| 15:40.05 | JohnGH | thanks... and see you later |
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| 15:40.11 | TheCount | .o( unbelievable ) |
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| 15:40.12 | rossi | is the channels.conf from vdr in the same format like the one I use in xine for instance? |
| 15:40.14 | asg | abrotman: no |
| 15:40.14 | abrotman | JohnGH: i'm not sure it's actually there |
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| 15:40.20 | gene_v | anyone experienced that |
| 15:40.21 | asg | TheCount: how many times to you have to tell 'em? |
| 15:40.21 | TheCount | rossi: definitely not |
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| 15:40.28 | JohnGH | nope, there's no #mpi ;o) |
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| 15:40.38 | wang | just kick people once automatically to get their attention |
| 15:40.42 | TheCount | asg: I think we need to tell them with a hammer |
| 15:40.43 | wang | like a warning shot |
| 15:40.49 | rossi | so it is different thecount? |
| 15:40.51 | asg | TheCount: we used to, now we have to be nice. |
| 15:40.58 | TheCount | rossi: yes definitely :) |
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| 15:41.15 | TheCount | asg: uh? who says that? and, who cares anyway? ;) |
| 15:41.19 | gene_v | asg: |
| 15:41.21 | abrotman | JohnGH: i mean .. if they paid for it .. they shuld be able to contact whoever wrote the clustering software |
| 15:41.24 | asg | TheCount: not I ;) |
| 15:41.31 | smiler_rk | can anyone help me getting video working on debain 2.6 & kde & mozilla ? |
| 15:41.32 | asg | gene_v: ? |
| 15:41.33 | rossi | tho how can I create the working channels.conf for vdr (dvb-t |
| 15:41.37 | paulswm | TheCount: note the absence of mwilson, for instance |
| 15:41.38 | gene_v | asg: the same like gentoo stuff? |
| 15:41.47 | rossi | Germany Nuernberg |
| 15:41.47 | asg | gene_v: yes, distcc is not a gentoo specific product |
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| 15:41.48 | TheCount | rossi: hm. where are you? in erlangen? |
| 15:41.49 | wang | lol it looks like a cleaned this CD with a brillo pad, and grip is trying to rip it |
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| 15:41.53 | asg | gene_v: apt-cache show distcc |
| 15:41.53 | JohnGH | abrotman: yeah, but it's Saturday :o) |
| 15:41.56 | JohnGH | thanks anyway |
| 15:41.58 | rossi | no |
| 15:42.04 | gene_v | ok thx |
| 15:42.07 | JohnGH | I'm gonna bail now... laters |
| 15:42.07 | rossi | in Nuernberg |
| 15:42.12 | asg | gene_v: they just use it a lot since they compile more than we do generally |
| 15:42.13 | rossi | Germany |
| 15:42.16 | TheCount | rossi: use this one: http://johannes-bauer.com/dvbt/channelsconf_erlangen.txt |
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| 15:42.26 | gene_v | nurenberger wuerstchen ... hoho |
| 15:42.26 | TheCount | rossi: see http://johannes-bauer.com/dvbt/ .. (just used google) |
| 15:42.42 | rossi | he good |
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| 15:43.07 | asg | TheCount: as far as who says it, /msg dpkg fable (rather entertaining run down by our old friend greycat) |
| 15:43.12 | paulswm | asg: I've found that for kernel builds on my boxes, single-box ccache compiles > distcc or distcc+ccache |
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| 15:43.19 | rossi | and I just copy this channels.conf in /var/lib/video.00 |
| 15:43.27 | rossi | right? |
| 15:43.38 | paulswm | asg: I mean > as in faster/better :) |
| 15:43.48 | asg | paulswm: ah |
| 15:43.52 | gene_v | asg: therefor im in contact with my booring 450coppermine... |
| 15:44.09 | gene_v | p3 |
| 15:44.14 | rossi | and thecount is that channels.conf u gave me in the right format? |
| 15:44.23 | TheCount | rossi: correct. |
| 15:44.28 | rossi | kk |
| 15:44.30 | rossi | thx |
| 15:44.33 | asg | gene_v: yes |
| 15:44.39 | TheCount | rossi: it should be, unless you're using a totally different vdr version than the one who created it |
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| 15:44.55 | jeg_ | i just installed the x-window-system package from testing, but i have no "startx" command... how can i start X.org (without using xdm, which i hate with a passion) |
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| 15:45.23 | asg | jeg_: install xbase-clients |
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| 15:45.34 | jeg_ | asg: ok, thanks |
| 15:45.39 | rossi | thecount |
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| 15:45.54 | jeg_ | asg: wait, that's already installed |
| 15:46.02 | rossi | before vdr created his own channels.conf i think |
| 15:46.12 | asg | jeg_: hmmm, odd |
| 15:46.18 | iturk | people a have a problem here -> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=8693 |
| 15:46.23 | rossi | but i get failure when reading this channels.conf |
| 15:46.27 | asg | jeg_: xbase-clients: usr/X11R6/bin/startx |
| 15:46.32 | iturk | in module loading did any one knows ? |
| 15:46.34 | asg | jeg_: do you have /usr/X11R6/bin in your path? |
| 15:46.49 | Morydd | I've got an error that I can't find anything about in google. any ideas where to start hunting for a solution: memory layout corrupt |
| 15:47.02 | TheCount | asg: rather cute, !fable |
| 15:47.13 | jeg_ | asg: ah, that's it. thanks for the sanity check |
| 15:47.20 | asg | TheCount: yeah |
| 15:47.21 | TheCount | rossi: what version are you using exactly? |
| 15:47.30 | asg | iturk: ##kernelnewbies is probably a better forum |
| 15:48.27 | TheCount | rossi: uh - I think I told you total bullshit |
| 15:48.38 | rossi | and the other thing is that I am wondering that my twinhan dvb-t box has the lights off when i boot linux. the light is only on when i boot windows than restart and boot linux and without light on the dvb-t box is recognized but i cannot watch tv |
| 15:49.02 | rossi | I have the vdr version which is with sarge stable |
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| 15:50.00 | iturk | asg: the problems is nobody from there is talking ! |
| 15:50.03 | rossi | when i do lsusb with ligts off it tells twinhan dvb-t ... device cold |
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| 15:50.17 | rossi | when the light is on it tells me ... device warm |
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| 15:51.11 | asg | iturk: it might be related to the compiler you are using but I don't know for sure. #c may have some ideas also. |
| 15:51.31 | TheCount | rossi: hum, I don't know. have a look at http://www.vdr-portal.de/ .. I do my channel scanning myself |
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| 15:51.38 | dpy | hi guys |
| 15:51.52 | dpy | maybe someone in here know the answer to this: |
| 15:51.58 | asg | 42 |
| 15:52.12 | TheCount | dpy: asg is right. |
| 15:52.24 | dpy | how do I remove all authentication in ssh for a specific user ? |
| 15:52.39 | rossi | I think it is curious that afte diconnecting my notwbook from power supply that only windows gets the light on off the dvb-t box |
| 15:52.53 | asg | dpy: you can use 'DenyUsers' in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 15:52.55 | dpy | I repeat, no authentication, which excludes all authentication, including public key authentication |
| 15:53.04 | TheCount | dpy: you could use AllowUser in sshd_config, which might help you |
| 15:53.12 | TheCount | dpy: what do you want to do exactly? shut him out? |
| 15:53.19 | dpy | no the opposite |
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| 15:53.28 | TheCount | dpy: ah! free entry? |
| 15:53.33 | dpy | everyone must be able to log in to that account |
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| 15:53.48 | dpy | well not free, but the PAM authentication is delayed |
| 15:53.53 | dpy | but I do want the secure channel |
| 15:54.01 | TheCount | dpy: you'll most likely need to change the PermitEmptyPasswords setting, or add everyones ssh-key to the user |
| 15:54.09 | TheCount | dpy: the latter is better, of course |
| 15:54.25 | dpy | no hassling with keys, it's like https I don't know their keys |
| 15:54.49 | abrotman | dpy: give him a non-valid shell |
| 15:55.07 | abrotman | dpy: then use rlogin |
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| 15:55.10 | dpy | abrotman: no I don't want to shut someone out, I want to let everybody in |
| 15:55.22 | dpy | I want the secure channel |
| 15:55.24 | abrotman | they why even encypty ? |
| 15:55.30 | abrotman | it's not secure |
| 15:55.34 | dpy | secure channel |
| 15:55.34 | abrotman | you just removed all authentication |
| 15:55.40 | abrotman | dude .. it doesn't matter |
| 15:55.42 | dpy | authentication != encryption |
| 15:55.45 | dpy | read the docs |
| 15:55.49 | TheCount | dpy: PermitEmptyPasswords |
| 15:55.55 | abrotman | this is the stupidest idea i've heard all week |
| 15:56.01 | dpy | https is encrypted (where do you authenticate ?) |
| 15:56.14 | abrotman | dude .. this is retarded |
| 15:56.29 | abrotman | ANYONE can get into the machine |
| 15:56.32 | abrotman | how is that secure ? |
| 15:56.35 | rossi | so I need the firmware |
| 15:56.36 | dpy | no, it's delayed |
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| 15:56.42 | rossi | I have read |
| 15:56.42 | TheCount | dpy: 'delayed'? |
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| 15:56.57 | rossi | and hotplug |
| 15:56.57 | dpy | I want to run a minibss, the authentication is delayed until the user sees a nice login screen |
| 15:57.04 | TheCount | abrotman: he might have a reason |
| 15:57.04 | abrotman | and the difference with https is htat it's read-only |
| 15:57.15 | abrotman | minibbs ? |
| 15:57.16 | TheCount | dpy: aaah, it's not delayed, it's done somewhere else |
| 15:57.25 | dpy | yes, but over a secure line |
| 15:57.33 | TheCount | dpy: so, empty password, and PermitEmptyPasswords. helllooooo! |
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| 15:57.41 | dpy | it's less secure than pure ssh authentication, I'm aware of that |
| 15:57.44 | Morydd | is there a way to view what modules are complied into the kernel? |
| 15:57.53 | dpy | because now the auth tokens travel trhough the network |
| 15:57.54 | TheCount | iturk: you need more includes |
| 15:57.56 | abrotman | there is no authentication |
| 15:58.04 | asg | Morydd: /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 15:58.05 | dpy | TheCount: working on it |
| 15:58.10 | dpy | sshd_config or ssh_config |
| 15:58.11 | asg | Morydd: look for things marked '=Y' |
| 15:58.29 | TheCount | abrotman: I think users should be allowed to shoot there own feet. |
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| 15:58.31 | TheCount | dpy: the former |
| 15:58.38 | asg | abrotman: it's just like running a mud over telnet but using ssh as the transport and using the mud to authenticate. |
| 15:58.49 | abrotman | i know |
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| 15:58.53 | asg | abrotman: he isn't giving an open shell afaict |
| 15:58.55 | abrotman | doesn't mean it's not stupid :) |
| 15:58.56 | abrotman | :) |
| 15:59.13 | dpy | TheCount: thanks very much |
| 15:59.13 | Morydd | hmmm... as root: bash: /boot/config-2.6.9-20041110: Permission denied |
| 15:59.14 | abrotman | asg: afaict .. he's going to have the "login" be the BBS login .. |
| 15:59.26 | abrotman | but he wants it secure .. |
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| 15:59.43 | asg | abrotman: the data transport, not the authentication apparently though. |
| 15:59.48 | abrotman | i know |
| 15:59.49 | TheCount | abrotman: most likely he has good reasons we don't know, and you're just jumping to conclusions without a reason - guess who looks stupid then? ;) |
| 15:59.52 | dpy | asg: you understand what I'm trying to achieve :) |
| 16:00.00 | abrotman | TheCount: i understand what he wants to do |
| 16:00.02 | asg | Morydd: doess /boot/config-2.6.9-* exist for your self compiled kernel? |
| 16:00.03 | TheCount | dpy: no problem - I understand as well |
| 16:00.05 | abrotman | TheCount: i still htink it's stupid ;) |
| 16:00.12 | asg | dpy: I do, I ran wwiv on debian for a while |
| 16:00.19 | dpy | cool |
| 16:00.27 | Morydd | asg: yeah... dumb mistake. |
| 16:00.28 | abrotman | couldn't you wire ssl into it instead ? |
| 16:00.41 | TheCount | abrotman: well, you may |
| 16:00.52 | abrotman | dpy: TBH .. i'd go with keys |
| 16:00.54 | dvs | Where can I get the gpg key for security |
| 16:01.05 | TheCount | dvs: apt-get install debian-keyring |
| 16:01.09 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I tried to backup my root partition to another hard disk. I used `cp -aux / /backup` command, then I reconfigured and ran lilo so it made appropriate records to boot from another disk. However, when it boots, it hangs up on 'starting syslogd: syslog.' What can be wrong? |
| 16:01.10 | hid3 | Btw, tried with 2 different disks, still the same |
| 16:01.12 | asg | Morydd: depending on how you compiled it, some 2.6.x kernels can provide the config in /proc/config or somesuch |
| 16:01.28 | dvs | TheCount: I've installed that but I still get an error when I update aptget |
| 16:01.37 | abrotman | dpy: then at least the only people getting access to your BBS login have gone through the trouble of setting up the key |
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| 16:02.01 | Morydd | it's there... just entered the path rather than opening it with something. |
| 16:02.04 | dpy | abrotman: how do they get their public key in the authorized_keys of the minibss ? |
| 16:02.13 | Morydd | like I said... dumb |
| 16:02.13 | TheCount | !apt key |
| 16:02.16 | dpy | abrotman: are they going to mail to me, and do I have copy it ? |
| 16:02.16 | olorin | hid3, where is your /var partition ? |
| 16:02.20 | TheCount | !apt secure |
| 16:02.20 | dpkg | hmm... apt secure is in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://www.syntaxpolice.org/apt-secure/ ; until you perform the steps described on page 5, you will get warnings about packages that can't be authenticated, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174, or ask me about <apt-key 4F368D5D> |
| 16:02.27 | abrotman | dpy: give them all the same key :) |
| 16:02.34 | rossi | anyone knows the exact command if i want to save a hole http://site.xx with wget with all links and files? |
| 16:02.43 | TheCount | abrotman: nah, if you've got pseudo-anonymous users? |
| 16:02.44 | abrotman | dpy: it's not much better .. but at least it involves a pain in the ass to gain access :) |
| 16:02.49 | hid3 | olorin: /var/ partition is not where the root is. it is on a different partition. |
| 16:02.55 | rossi | wget http://site.xx is not enough |
| 16:02.59 | abrotman | dpy: it's not my machine .. carry on :) |
| 16:03.00 | dpy | abrotman: you can't give them the private key, becuase you can only have one private key |
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| 16:03.14 | dpy | and everybody already has his own private key |
| 16:03.21 | dpy | abrotman: take 30 minutes to think it over |
| 16:03.25 | TheCount | dpy: so what'd be the problem with having two private keys? ;) |
| 16:03.32 | abrotman | dpy: think over which .. your idea or mine ? |
| 16:03.38 | Morydd | okay... gotta do a new kernel I think. |
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| 16:03.53 | dvs | Morydd: uname -r |
| 16:03.54 | dpy | anyone, I have what I want, so thanks |
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| 16:04.34 | olorin | rossi, man wget ... but wget -r should help you |
| 16:04.34 | manu | I get the following error while installing customkernel |
| 16:04.41 | abrotman | dpy: thanks for answering |
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| 16:04.56 | rossi | olorin I have not internet |
| 16:04.58 | manu | you have no suitable ramdisk generation tool installed among /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs. This will break the installation, unless a |
| 16:04.59 | Morydd | dvs: 2.6.9-20041110 it's a year old anyway. |
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| 16:05.13 | rossi | and want to get a complete mirror |
| 16:05.15 | manu | suitable ramdisk generation tool is also being installed right |
| 16:05.21 | Khiraly | hi |
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| 16:05.27 | Morydd | I just hate doing it because it always takes me at least 3 tries. :) |
| 16:05.36 | asg | manu: install initrd-tools or compile it without initrd using compiled in modules for your root fs, controller chipset, etc. |
| 16:05.43 | Khiraly | what is the keyboard input device file in kernel 2.4 (like for the mouse: /dev/psaux) |
| 16:06.19 | rossi | thx |
| 16:06.19 | olorin | rossi, ho do you want to mirror a web site if you don't have an internet access ? |
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| 16:06.21 | rossi | thx |
| 16:06.24 | rossi | olorin |
| 16:06.29 | dvs | Morydd: Same here. ;-) |
| 16:06.36 | rossi | olorin |
| 16:06.41 | Khiraly | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.41 | Khiraly | cat: /dev/input/event0: No such device |
| 16:07.01 | Morydd | oh well... I'm off for the next 3 days... |
| 16:07.02 | rossi | i need to get all these nerim stuff mplayer j...# |
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| 16:07.51 | olorin | rossi, whatever you want, it's impossible without an internet remote access |
| 16:08.18 | olorin | rossi, why did you spoke about whet then ? i really don't understand |
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| 16:08.31 | asg | !tell otero_ about root |
| 16:08.31 | olorin | rossi, wget* |
| 16:08.45 | rossi | Well I burn all of ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/ on a cd |
| 16:08.48 | manu | asg: why do i getthis error |
| 16:08.57 | rossi | and take it with me home |
| 16:08.59 | asg | manu: are you using sid? |
| 16:09.01 | manu | I installed initrd-tools |
| 16:09.13 | manu | No setch |
| 16:09.16 | manu | *etch |
| 16:09.31 | manu | But have unstable in sources.list |
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| 16:09.43 | scanwinder | im having trouble getting xfree86 to go to 800x600 rather than 640x480, can some have a look at my XF86Config-4 file and tell me what im doing wrong? its at http://pastebin.com/418278 |
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| 16:09.47 | asg | manu: well, the addition of yaird in sid is likely to be causing issues. |
| 16:09.51 | olorin | rossi, ok and then ? you want to do ? |
| 16:10.20 | manu | asg: how can i fix it |
| 16:10.22 | asg | manu: verify that you have /usr/sbin/mkinitrd or /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs. If so, you might have to do a clean kernel build |
| 16:10.28 | rossi | I need to install some shit from the cd at home |
| 16:10.52 | rossi | I will put all in one dir and add to apt |
| 16:10.57 | abrotman | scanwinder: it's really a "chips" video card ? |
| 16:11.05 | olorin | add the directory tou've just download to sources.list |
| 16:11.10 | scanwinder | abrotman: yes |
| 16:11.10 | manu | No mkinitramfs |
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| 16:11.23 | asg | manu: do you have mkinitrd though? You should have since it's in initrd-tools |
| 16:11.23 | manu | How do i install it |
| 16:11.25 | abrotman | scanwinder: check your X log .. that may be all it does |
| 16:11.26 | olorin | or just do 'dpkg -i package' |
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| 16:11.45 | scanwinder | abrotman: how do i check my X log? where is it? |
| 16:11.52 | rossi | yes Olorin |
| 16:11.56 | abrotman | /var/log .. with the rest of them |
| 16:12.00 | rossi | make a index |
| 16:12.09 | rossi | and then add that to the list |
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| 16:13.00 | roler | what was the program to disable programs from running on startup again? |
| 16:13.05 | asg | roler: update-rc.d |
| 16:13.12 | olorin | rossi, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
| 16:13.43 | rossi | thx |
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| 16:14.01 | manu | asg: mkinitramfs is not there |
| 16:14.06 | scanwinder | abrotman: do i want XFree86.0.log? |
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| 16:14.15 | rossi | olorin I have just found how to do that in the german debiananwenderhandbuch |
| 16:14.23 | manu | How can i fix it |
| 16:14.26 | roler | thanks |
| 16:14.26 | olorin | rossi, ;) |
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| 16:14.40 | manu | I have installed initrd-toold |
| 16:14.40 | asg | manu: as long as you have one (i.e. /usr/sbin/mkinitrd) then you should be fine. |
| 16:14.46 | rossi | but it is a good idea to wget -r http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ |
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| 16:15.13 | asg | manu: if you want to install the other, use 'apt-file' to search for sbin/mkinitramfs and install the resultant package. Then do a 'clean' build of your kernel |
| 16:15.46 | rossi | I get permission denied |
| 16:15.48 | rossi | damn |
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| 16:16.08 | scanwinder | abrotman: in it it says "(II) CHIPS(0): Not using mode "800x600" (no mode of this name) |
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| 16:16.39 | asg | manu: also, try pasting the error into google. Someone has likely already had the same thing happen. |
| 16:16.52 | scanwinder | (II) CHIPS(0): Not using mode "800x600" (no mode of this name) does anyone know why that isnt using 800x600? |
| 16:17.07 | olorin | rossi, permission denied ? have you write access in your current directory ? |
| 16:17.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | has anyone used nfs-kernel-server on a Debian box, with a Windows xp client box(s)? |
| 16:17.27 | rossi | yes |
| 16:17.49 | rossi | it sais that wget does not find index.html |
| 16:18.04 | rossi | wget -r http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ |
| 16:18.05 | asg | Kamping_Kaiser: didn't know XP had an nfs client |
| 16:18.11 | rossi | when I do that |
| 16:18.49 | TheCount | rossi: toss in a -np there, I'd suggest |
| 16:18.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | asg: aparently it does via 'services for UNIX', but that's partly what I'm trying to find out :) i don't have any Windows boxes at my house |
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| 16:19.13 | asg | Kamping_Kaiser: oh that. I thought SFU was only for 2k; I guess it would work on XP though. |
| 16:19.32 | asg | Kamping_Kaiser: it should work; there's always samba if it doesn't |
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| 16:20.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | asg: thanks. yeh, I'm hoping to use nfs, so i have permissions :) |
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| 16:20.12 | rossi | wget -r http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ |
| 16:20.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | one reason for the file server is controll of who can do what |
| 16:20.17 | rossi | is working |
| 16:20.34 | rossi | I had no right to write the files |
| 16:20.37 | rossi | was the wrong disk |
| 16:20.43 | rossi | ups |
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| 16:20.53 | rossi | great |
| 16:21.53 | kurtak | does anyone know the trick to making a speedstep event so that i my laptop (centrino) clocks slower? |
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| 16:22.13 | rednaxel | hi all |
| 16:22.16 | asg | kurtak: why not use powernowd? |
| 16:22.32 | rednaxel | this is funny: new Google's office http://charges.uol.com.br/bobagens/google.jpg |
| 16:22.39 | kurtak | asg: b/c i just didn't know what to use |
| 16:22.54 | kurtak | asg: lemme try |
| 16:23.04 | asg | kurtak: try it. It will autothrottle the cpu and provide higher rates as usage is needed. |
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| 16:24.04 | rossi | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/<< is there something like that with manuals for debian |
| 16:24.14 | rossi | I can get with wget=? |
| 16:24.27 | asg | rossi: apt-get install debian-reference |
| 16:24.31 | Fleck | :) |
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| 16:24.34 | asg | rossi: all those docs are apt-get installable |
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| 16:26.04 | _joey | which package should I install to get make-kpkg util ? |
| 16:26.23 | dvs | Kernel-package |
| 16:27.08 | apa | how do i open a port? |
| 16:27.10 | apa | on my lan |
| 16:27.22 | apa | i stated a application on port 6664 |
| 16:27.30 | _joey | thanks |
| 16:27.39 | apa | but when i connect to it, it dosent work but 6667 works fine |
| 16:27.44 | Fox_1_ | i install agpgart module, so how i must use it? |
| 16:28.01 | asg | Fox_1_: you don't, X uses it |
| 16:28.20 | asg | apa: verify that it is actually listening (/msg dpkg open ports) |
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| 16:28.46 | asg | kernel BUG at fs/inode.c:252! (oooh, shfs and umount in sid with 2.6.14 don't like each other. neat) |
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| 16:28.58 | Fox_1_ | if i didn't install agpgart, does nvidia driver work? |
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| 16:29.22 | apa | asg: not on the WAN on the lan |
| 16:29.50 | asg | apa: is the port open? can you telnet to it? from localhost, from another machine? |
| 16:30.09 | apa | asg: no it isent runing |
| 16:30.12 | apa | netstat cant find it |
| 16:30.20 | apa | weird |
| 16:30.28 | asg | apa: then look at the logs and find out why it won't bind to 6664 |
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| 16:30.49 | apa | asg: there are no logs :( |
| 16:31.18 | asg | apa: then run whatever you are running in debug mode. Or use strace to see what it is doing and why it might be failing (strace foo) |
| 16:31.43 | apa | asg: its bitlbee |
| 16:31.48 | apa | if you know what that is |
| 16:31.48 | Fox_1_ | how can i open *.bz2 file? |
| 16:31.53 | asg | apa: I run it |
| 16:32.05 | asg | Fox_1_: tar xjf <foo> |
| 16:32.07 | apa | :))) |
| 16:32.08 | dvs | Fox_1_: Is it a tar too? |
| 16:32.12 | apa | how do i change the default port? |
| 16:32.26 | apa | asg: i run bitlbee -i 192.168.1.1 -p 6668 |
| 16:32.30 | apa | but that doesnt work |
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| 16:32.41 | asg | apa: DaemonPort in /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf |
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| 16:33.19 | dvs | ok that's enought |
| 16:33.21 | EchsO | uhhh someone make him stop |
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| 16:33.55 | asg | EchsO: you can turn off joins/parts in your irc client |
| 16:34.09 | huh | join/part messages are cool to have on until some person like phakso goes nuts |
| 16:34.13 | apa | asg: dosnet work at all |
| 16:34.15 | apa | :( |
| 16:34.24 | Fox_1_ | it write This does not look like a tar archive |
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| 16:34.49 | cahoot | Fox_1_: run 'file' onit |
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| 16:35.33 | asg | Fox_1_: file <file> |
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| 16:35.58 | abrotman | dpy: thought about it .. still the worst idea all week :) |
| 16:35.59 | resiak | !tell huh -about nospambot |
| 16:36.18 | asg | apa: check that it's not running from inetd (/etc/inetd.conf) If it is, /etc/init.d/inetd start |
| 16:36.19 | fbi | !tell me about hangover |
| 16:36.22 | fbi | meh |
| 16:36.32 | abrotman | scanwinder: figure it out ? |
| 16:36.32 | asg | !tell fbi to drink a bit more to ease the pain |
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| 16:36.41 | apa | asg: what do you mean? i have xintd.d |
| 16:36.59 | asg | fbi: ooooo, yummy |
| 16:37.01 | apa | asg: should i shut it down? |
| 16:37.17 | fbi | if i smell booze...i shall puke. |
| 16:37.28 | asg | apa: I don't know how your system is configured. bitlbee can run from inetd (same as xinetd) or as a Daemon (experimental). Find which one is being used. |
| 16:37.39 | apa | daemon |
| 16:37.52 | asg | apa: also, check /etc/default/bitlbee (if it exists, there may be some config info in there) |
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| 16:41.10 | Andy837 | trying to install postfix but it says it can't be found on the source list!? |
| 16:41.14 | apacker | hey, does anyone know why I can't get unrar or unrar-free on debian stable? |
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| 16:41.41 | fbi | !unrar |
| 16:41.41 | dpkg | unrar is probably a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about unrar-free |
| 16:41.42 | teclo | Debian people, your attention please. What is going on with lists.debian.org ? It has not updated the debian-user mailing list threads since 10:30 GMT .... Can somebody look into this ? Thank you. |
| 16:41.54 | niekniek | hello! i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share. |
| 16:41.54 | huh | you will probably have to add a repos to your sources list that has unrar |
| 16:42.10 | apacker | huh, how can I determine which one does? |
| 16:42.29 | huh | google search for unofficial apt sources |
| 16:42.38 | Andy837 | trying to install postfix but it says it can't be found on the source list!? |
| 16:43.00 | huh | www.apt-get.org |
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| 16:43.09 | Starfury^ | is kde 3.4 on testing? |
| 16:43.22 | huh | that will help you apacker |
| 16:43.25 | resiak | You can check packages.debian.org just as well as we can. |
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| 16:43.34 | apacker | huh, thanks! |
| 16:43.42 | blockd | I can get unrar on stable with non-free |
| 16:43.57 | huh | be careful with mixing repos |
| 16:44.00 | abli | Hi! I just got a new 17" TFT monitor, and somehow the picture is wavy. for example vertical black lines on white background look jagged. Can that be caused by a poor videocard? (I'm using an on-board integrated video card) |
| 16:44.08 | Starfury^ | resiak: you know how mcuh more effort that was for you to say instead of yes or no? |
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| 16:44.45 | artenberg | hello |
| 16:44.49 | apacker | huh, yeah, I think I've done some bad things to my sources over the years... do you think maybe you could look at my apt-get update output and tell me what I don't need? |
| 16:45.06 | resiak | Starfury^: No, it wasn't, because I don't know. Whereas you could find out by going to p.d.o, which would be quicker for you than asking in this channel even if someone else did happen to a) know the answer and b) want to spoon-feed you. |
| 16:45.07 | apacker | blockd, I'm on unstable, but could you perhaps tell me which repos that is coming from? |
| 16:45.09 | scanwinder | abrotman: sorry, went away for a while, no, i havent figured it out |
| 16:45.14 | EdibleText | abli, you may have to ajust the monitors controls. eg an 'auto-ajust' or something |
| 16:45.17 | Starfury^ | or not answer |
| 16:45.18 | Starfury^ | :) |
| 16:45.21 | huh | sure |
| 16:45.23 | scanwinder | abrotman: in the log file i get the following: (II) CHIPS(0): Not using mode "800x600" (no mode of this name) |
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| 16:45.28 | abli | EdibleText, of course i tried that... :) |
| 16:45.39 | EdibleText | abli, of course ;) |
| 16:45.53 | Starfury^ | if someone had any clue as to my os problem i woudlnt have to be reinstalling but hehho |
| 16:45.53 | blockd | apacker: shouldn't matter which repos actually. But if you're on unstable it just might not be there... |
| 16:46.13 | fbi | scanwinder: that's not really an error... |
| 16:46.23 | apacker | blockd, but can't I force it to get the stable package? I can't imagine that causing TOO much weird version mismatch shiznit |
| 16:46.57 | Fox_1_ | can i transfare sgml to html and pdf? |
| 16:47.08 | blockd | apacker: according to the debian package search, it should be there in unstable too |
| 16:47.19 | apacker | blockd, yeah, thats why i think something is wrong with my repos |
| 16:47.21 | Fox_1_ | convert i mean |
| 16:47.23 | blockd | if you want to try the mirror I use... |
| 16:47.49 | blockd | deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 16:47.50 | scanwinder | fbi: how do i find why its not going to 800x600 then? |
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| 16:47.51 | blockd | just try s/stable/unstable/: |
| 16:47.59 | scanwinder | fbi: it keeps doing 640x480 |
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| 16:48.27 | fbi | scanwinder: so reconfigure X |
| 16:48.41 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 16:48.48 | scanwinder | fbi: tried that plenty of times - hasent worked |
| 16:48.48 | huh | fbi is right. you will probably have to reconfigure x |
| 16:49.00 | scanwinder | fbi: i read somewhere i need to use the svga driver |
| 16:49.05 | scanwinder | fbi: how do i do that? |
| 16:49.16 | fbi | scanwinder: did you edit your X config manually? |
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| 16:50.12 | scanwinder | fbi: well sort of manually....i had to get another x config off the net coz it wouldnt work when i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:50.17 | apacker | blockd, that worked! i wonder why my repos didnt have it... really werid |
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| 16:50.18 | kurtak | K- tried powernowd but it says it couldn't start b/c of an error. one of the things it says to check is if have core cpufreq and cpufreq-userspace modules loaded. Are those named just like that "cpufreq" and "cpufreq-userspace" if i do lsmod |
| 16:50.26 | scanwinder | fbi: how do i use the "svga" driver? |
| 16:50.26 | fbi | !xmd5 |
| 16:50.26 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
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| 16:50.46 | fbi | scanwinder ^ |
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| 16:52.00 | wedgeV | the 2.6.14 kernel doesnt find my root partition during boot ( /dev/hda6 ), 2.6.12 kernel works fine, any ideas whats wrong? |
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| 16:52.50 | kjoonlee | wedgeV: If you built the kernel yourself, did you include support for your /dev/hda6 partition's filesystem? |
| 16:52.54 | scanwinder | fbi: i dont want to lose the manual changes ive got.....before i changed it, i couldnt get any graphical stuff up...now i get it...just at 640x480......but no 800x600 |
| 16:52.56 | blockd | your initrd doesn't have the fs modules? |
| 16:53.15 | wedgeV | kjoonlee: i'm using the debian standard package -686 |
| 16:53.25 | wedgeV | from unstable |
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| 16:53.58 | huh | a technically wrong but workable answer scanwinder is that you could manually edit the resoulution to be 800x600 if you know where those lines are in the xconfig file |
| 16:54.06 | kjoonlee | wedgeV: OK, did you install the package of modules? Is your bootloader set up to use initrd? |
| 16:54.14 | fbi | scanwinder: i don't know what to tell you. you don't want to fix your X config, but you don't like the resolution you are stuck in. i don't see how anyone can help you. |
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| 16:55.15 | scanwinder | fbi: well my X config at least partially works now.....when i was using the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 way, i couldnt get anything to work |
| 16:55.15 | hcy | is there a way to do a 'suspend to disk' thing in linux/debian, so that I can shut my computer down, and next time it'll restore to its current state? |
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| 16:55.55 | fbi | scanwinder: what do you mean 'wouldn't work', you had errors in your X log? |
| 16:56.00 | huh | scanwinder, you really have to have the correct information about your hardware for xconfig to get it right. |
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| 16:56.45 | scanwinder | fbi: i had cant find screen errors when i did it like that |
| 16:57.26 | fbi | scanwinder: regardless. you have tainted the file by editing it, debconf won't save changes now. |
| 16:57.32 | wedgeV | kjoonlee: grub seems ok, it has the same config as the 2.6.12 kernel, different initrd and kernel image of course |
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| 16:57.49 | fbi | you need to fix it by doing what dpkg said and learn how to properly configure X |
| 16:57.54 | huh | that's a true statement fbi. |
| 16:58.05 | wedgeV | kjoonlee: i didnt find a module package |
| 16:58.06 | scanwinder | fbi: yes but i tried the other way before i changed it manually |
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| 16:58.43 | fbi | scanwinder: then you were lying to debconf about your input devices and/or video hardware |
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| 16:58.48 | scanwinder | huh: also i tried removing the other resolutions from the file but, it still only does 640x480 |
| 16:59.20 | wedgeV | kjoonlee: i think it doesnt create the /dev/hda6 file during boot |
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| 16:59.22 | huh | omg- you can't just " remove" the resolutions. |
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| 16:59.43 | scanwinder | huh: well then what do i do with them? to stop it using them? |
| 16:59.53 | blockd | hcy: I think you're looking for hibernation. I haven't used it on Linux, but I know there's howto |
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| 17:00.21 | huh | you really don't want to hand edit that file scanwinder because this is the situation it will put you in. |
| 17:00.25 | TheCount | *summ* desinformation is a weapon of mass destruction .. |
| 17:00.50 | lir | whats a good pdf editor? |
| 17:00.53 | hcy | blockd: thanks, i'll look for it |
| 17:00.56 | scanwinder | huh: ive turned it back ino the normal file now |
| 17:00.58 | huh | re-read fbi's last line scanwinder |
| 17:01.34 | blockd | lir: I think scribus can edit pdf's... |
| 17:01.44 | scanwinder | huh: ok now, im getting Fatal server error: failed to initilze core devices |
| 17:01.45 | huh | you need to input the correct information about your hardware. guesses usually don't turn out so good. |
| 17:01.58 | lir | thanks, ill search for that |
| 17:02.03 | fbi | i'm off for some fried chicken embryos. |
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| 17:02.27 | huh | later fbi |
| 17:02.37 | scanwinder | huh: as far as i know, i am putting in everything correct |
| 17:02.56 | lir | i got an ipsec l2tp vpn runing last night |
| 17:03.36 | scanwinder | huh: i read i need to use the svga driver.....thats not in the list of drivers when i got dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 17:03.36 | huh | horizontal freq and vertical freq correct? |
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| 17:04.01 | scanwinder | huh: i dont know what they are so i just went simple and let it do that bit |
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| 17:04.15 | TiMiDo | intresting |
| 17:04.19 | _-FoxRacinG-_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.23 | xrgtn | difference between netkit-ping, iputils-ping and inetutils-ping: AFAIS -i option allows fraction-of-second intervals in iputils-ping (and not in netkit's), netkit-ping does not have mdev statistics, netkit-ping's prints RTT and stats with 1/10s precision. What else? |
| 17:04.24 | _-FoxRacinG-_ | hello |
| 17:04.40 | Haiperi | I need help on php5 - mysql.. |
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| 17:05.22 | abrotman | !fr |
| 17:05.22 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 17:05.40 | _-FoxRacinG-_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.40 | huh | do a search for you monitor brand and model on the net and get the information. that's all I know to tell you. if the horiz/vert freqs are wrong then that could be it. |
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| 17:06.44 | huh | either that or install the correct driver for your video card and then rerun xconfig. but you will still need the proper horiz/vert freq ranges. |
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| 17:08.00 | scanwinder | huh: how do i install the svga driver? |
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| 17:09.41 | poh | are there any instructions for handling alternatives and having several jvm's installed |
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| 17:12.02 | ke6isf | Is it just me, or does Firefox have a memory leak? |
| 17:12.10 | gm_ | hello! |
| 17:12.16 | huh | do you have the driver downloaded scanwinder? |
| 17:12.18 | Andale | hello at everyone |
| 17:12.21 | zOrK | maybe with 300000000000000 open tabs :P |
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| 17:12.28 | stew | hmm so i'm installng a new machine that will be fileserver. it has a system disk and a big raid array, do i put lvm on the raid array? |
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| 17:12.38 | huh | and what driver is it? nvidia? ati? |
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| 17:12.54 | ke6isf | zOrK: Nah, this is just by popping open maybe 12 tabs after it's been up all night. |
| 17:13.44 | sandman | Sometimes I think that top doesn't work |
| 17:14.00 | gm_ | I seem to have run into a peculiar problem involving the passwwd file (this is on Debian 3.1 Sarge...). After a few succesfull KDE/Gnome sessions, the gdm fails to recognize/authenticate any user including root. Has anyone experienced a similar problem?? |
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| 17:14.34 | stew | ke6isf: i leave firefox running for days without a problem. did one of your tabs have somehting like flash or java loaded? |
| 17:14.37 | huh | scanwinder, do you have the driver? |
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| 17:14.44 | ke6isf | gm_: You *are* using shadow passwords, right? What are the permissions on /etc/shadow? |
| 17:15.00 | ke6isf | stew: Might be something like that, whatever gmail uses - it tends to sit there all night. |
| 17:15.15 | gm_ | Although I have a fully configured system, I am not able to access it :( No, I'm afraid /etc/shadow does not exist, perhaps it never did (!) |
| 17:15.39 | ke6isf | gm_: You're not using shadow passwords. OK, what's permissions on /etc/passwd? |
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| 17:15.55 | gm_ | Read-only, owned by root. |
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| 17:16.30 | gpm | hey guys. i have the vfat module loaded...i was just wondering what package (if any) i need to get mkfs.vfat....or must i use a statically compiled vfat module? |
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| 17:16.35 | gm_ | This is something I've noticed during my previous sessions. Right now, I can do nothing... not even in single user mode... |
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| 17:17.34 | ke6isf | gm_: That's really weird.... |
| 17:18.24 | gm_ | Yeah, I am completely foxed! Do you think a complete re-install is the only way out? |
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| 17:18.53 | blockd_ | gm_: you could boot up a rescue CD, mount your hdd and check things out before doing that... |
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| 17:19.23 | EdibleText | gm_ what happens .. kernel begins to load then box restarts? |
| 17:19.23 | Tortel | gm_ fscheck |
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| 17:19.56 | Rawplayer | re |
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| 17:20.05 | gm_ | I've been able to boot with a Live CD; everything seems to be intact, except I am not able to do anything particularly useful to help with the login problem. |
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| 17:20.40 | blockd_ | is there anything useful in the logs? E.g., anything when you try grepping for gdm is <mount-path>/var/log/auth.log |
| 17:20.46 | gm_ | Kernel loads... gdm loads next, and does not accept any combination of username & password, although I am sure the combinations are right. |
| 17:20.48 | zerve_the_death | you can setup a new pass |
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| 17:21.14 | zerve_the_death | and the copy the file to your hd |
| 17:21.24 | gm_ | How would one do that? (setting up a new password when one is not able to login at all...) |
| 17:21.45 | zerve_the_death | through liveCD |
| 17:21.48 | blockd_ | you can edit the file manually... or disconnect your system from the network and leave the password field for root blank |
| 17:21.54 | Tortel | gm_: can you login on the command line? |
| 17:22.00 | EdibleText | gm_, did you make changes eg ldap auth or somesuch |
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| 17:22.40 | gm_ | No, all logins from command line have been unsucessful, and I haven't made any changes to ldap or anything else like that. |
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| 17:23.00 | zerve_the_death | do you have liveCD |
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| 17:23.40 | blockd_ | If you don't have an /etc/shadow file, then I think the second field in /etc/passwd is the encoded/encrypted one. |
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| 17:23.50 | gm_ | I tried setting up passwd using the liveCD, but that didn't work either. The passwd file seems to have setup root with a blank password, but gdm/command line refuses to accept it. |
| 17:23.59 | DoubleHP | Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-1-686 |
| 17:24.02 | DoubleHP | on running kernel 2.4.27-2-386 in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs |
| 17:24.05 | DoubleHP | what to do ? |
| 17:24.32 | seven_six_two | I just selected smart-upgrade in synaptic, and it said it is going to remove a bunch of stuff i want, like x-window-system-core, kde, gnome, hotplug, k3b, qdvdauthor, quanta etc... does anyone know why it would be removing so much? |
| 17:24.34 | blockd_ | gm_: you could make an account on another system, and then copy it's encrypted password into your other /etc/passwd file |
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| 17:24.43 | m0se5 | I'm using debian testing and I can't install k3b, kdevelop3 and others. It all seems to do with kdelibs4. About how long until this will be fixed? |
| 17:25.01 | dbm|1 | hihi.. |
| 17:25.10 | dvs | m0se5: until gcc 4.0 gets sorted out |
| 17:25.33 | m0se5 | dvs: thanks. weeks or months? |
| 17:25.44 | m0se5 | dvs: and how will I know? |
| 17:25.45 | dvs | m0se5: Don't know |
| 17:26.02 | gm_ | Sorry, I tried copying the knoppix passwd file after adding a user and setting the root password, but without any success. |
| 17:26.04 | zerve_the_death | gm_, did you try passwd command in liveCD? |
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| 17:26.21 | zerve_the_death | you have to mount the HD first |
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| 17:26.26 | zerve_the_death | and then copy that |
| 17:26.26 | seven_six_two | is that why i can't do smart-upgrade too? I'm using etch |
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| 17:26.50 | blockd_ | gm_: did you just copy the encrypted password only? It'll probably wreck other things to blindly replace your passwd file with another system's |
| 17:26.58 | huh | more than likely that is the case seven_six_two |
| 17:27.13 | gm_ | Yes, I did try passwd from command line. It said authentication service failed. |
| 17:27.25 | zerve_the_death | as root |
| 17:27.25 | jbroome | seven_six_two: wouldn't .308 be an easier nick? :) |
| 17:27.34 | m0se5 | seven_six_two: I'm all of a sudden having all kinds of problems using testing. It's like I'm running unstable but I'm not. This install is 2 days old. |
| 17:27.48 | Fleck | KDE 3.4 is finally in etch. << what does etch mean? :) |
| 17:27.56 | huh | "smart upgrade" is just apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:28.00 | dvs | Fleck: trouble |
| 17:28.02 | EdibleText | !etch |
| 17:28.03 | dpkg | i guess etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 17:28.08 | blockd_ | gm_: I mean if you look in /etc/shadow on Knoppix you'll see something like "root:<$1$bunchofstuff>:morestuff:...." |
| 17:28.13 | m0se5 | Fleck: codename for testing |
| 17:28.29 | Fleck | ohh i see :) |
| 17:28.31 | m0se5 | Fleck: like sarge and potato |
| 17:28.35 | seven_six_two | jbroome, prolly...lol |
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| 17:28.44 | Andy837 | apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-4) but 2.0.54-5 is to be installed |
| 17:28.48 | Andy837 | whats that all about? |
| 17:28.54 | Fleck | KDE 3.4 needed in stable ;( |
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| 17:29.08 | blockd_ | gm_: just copy the $1$bunchofstuff and use it to replace the empty field in your passwd file on the other system, presuming you're using MD5 |
| 17:29.25 | seven_six_two | m0se5, I've been using etch for a few months, and this problem is fairly new to me. I find it odd that an upgrade would want to remove so much. I'm going to read the site |
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| 17:29.46 | EdibleText | seven_six_two, etch is a moving target |
| 17:29.57 | huh | keep in mind that you are using "testing" seven_six_two |
| 17:30.03 | m0se5 | How did testing get so broke anyway. Is't that for unstable? |
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| 17:30.23 | NSK | is it easy to update debian 3.1 with kde 3.4 ? |
| 17:30.28 | m0se5 | seven_six_two: I've been using testing for years. It never broke like this. |
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| 17:30.39 | gm_ | There is no shadow file in the knoppix that I am using. The entry for root oesnt seem to have encryption for passwd. This field appears to be absent! |
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| 17:30.45 | Andy837 | apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-4) but 2.0.54-5 is to be installed |
| 17:30.49 | Andy837 | whats it mean |
| 17:30.56 | blockd_ | gm_: create another user then |
| 17:30.58 | seven_six_two | I understand that it isn't stable |
| 17:31.03 | m0se5 | NSK: normally it is but now isn't a good is't cause testing is broke. |
| 17:31.06 | dvs | !tell Andy837 -about repeat |
| 17:31.28 | seven_six_two | mine isn't broken, I'm just not going to upgrade until it's fixed |
| 17:31.30 | blockd_ | gm_: maybe they stick stuff all in /etc/passwd on Knoppix... I'm not running it right now, but it's stored somewhere |
| 17:31.37 | m0se5 | gm_: root in knoppix has no password |
| 17:31.49 | gm_ | yes |
| 17:32.07 | m0se5 | gm_: what is it? |
| 17:32.11 | yang | To which minus degree temperatures can be computers exposed? |
| 17:32.35 | blockd_ | gm_: "adduser fixsystem; passwd fixsystem" |
| 17:32.35 | m0se5 | gm_: I've never seen a password in knoppix |
| 17:32.45 | huh | Andy837, what are you using? stable, testing? have you mixed them? because that is what is known as a circular dependency and is going to be a pita |
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| 17:33.04 | stew | yay: /dev/sda1 1730740984 32860 1642791612 1% /home |
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| 17:33.22 | zerve_the_death | m0se5, you can setup a root pass in knoppix if you want |
| 17:33.26 | m0se5 | gm_: well if you add a user, it isn't default knoppix anymore. |
| 17:33.39 | NSK | yang: hardware manufacturers post this info in their techdocs |
| 17:33.44 | gm_ | Right, there is no password in knoppix. And adding a new user does not help, because gdm does not recognize it later. |
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| 17:33.49 | m0se5 | zerve_the_death: oh, I know. you can do whatever you want. It's Linux! |
| 17:33.53 | DoubleHP | on running kernel 2.4.27-2-386 in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs |
| 17:34.00 | DoubleHP | grrr |
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| 17:34.12 | Tortel | !grr |
| 17:34.12 | manu | I keep getting errors about mkinitrd or mkinitramfs not installed eventhough i have mkinitrd installed how can i fix it |
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| 17:34.26 | DoubleHP | Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-1-686 on running kernel 2.4.27-2-386 in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs - what to install to solve ? |
| 17:34.45 | DoubleHP | manu: same as me ? |
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| 17:34.48 | yang | NSK: isnt then a problem with humidity? |
| 17:35.08 | blockd_ | m0se5: the point is just to get the shadow entry so he can fix his real system. I know the shadow suite uses a library to encrypt/encode them but I'm not sure of any user tools that will just output it |
| 17:35.19 | yang | NSK: if it drops below zero, some electronics might get wet, when it heats up again? |
| 17:35.27 | blockd_ | or the passwd entry... whichever it winds up being |
| 17:35.30 | gm_ | blockd_: you want me to try doing that from Knoppix? |
| 17:35.39 | manu | DoubleHP : what error doyou get? |
| 17:35.50 | manu | DoubleHP : can you paste it |
| 17:35.59 | NSK | yang: ask in #hardware maybe they know more |
| 17:36.02 | blockd_ | gm_: yes, though if you're not using MD5 passwords on your real system, things won't work right off the bat |
| 17:36.07 | m0se5 | blockd_: what's wrong with logging in to his old system. single user mode? |
| 17:36.11 | NSK | yang: and #electronics and #physics |
| 17:36.33 | DoubleHP | manu: see your logs around ... |
| 17:36.43 | huh | games on... seeya later |
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| 17:36.52 | gm_ | Somehow, the single user mode seems to require root password, and it does not recognize the real password that I have been using. |
| 17:36.53 | blockd_ | m0se5: he can't apparently. His old system has a blank root passwd apparently and gdm/login don't like that |
| 17:37.09 | blockd_ | maybe not blank... but I think you said that... |
| 17:37.16 | m0se5 | blockd_: boot off knoppix and chroot his disk. passwd root |
| 17:37.32 | zerve_the_death | lol |
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| 17:37.59 | blockd_ | m0se5: that could also work... but I don't think he's using shadow files so I don't know what Knoppix would try to do there |
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| 17:38.25 | gm_ | Blank is what I tried to make it from LiveCD, but that didn't work either. m0se5, can you please elaborate on that suggestion? |
| 17:38.34 | mymayer | can i "mount" a remote ftp dir ? |
| 17:38.42 | stew | blockd_: knoppix will do the right thing |
| 17:38.45 | DoubleHP | mymayer: google fuse |
| 17:38.56 | NSK | mymayer: you can mount NFS shares |
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| 17:39.14 | DoubleHP | mymayer: or install Hurd that include trans already :) |
| 17:39.16 | yoyo | hi, :) |
| 17:39.19 | jeg_ | i'm trying to copy a remote directory all in one go, using either scp or sftp... problem is, when i do "scp uesr@host:<path-to-file> ./", i get an error saying "not a regular file" |
| 17:39.22 | NSK | mymayer: Konqueror can work with remote FTP directories like local directories, without mounting |
| 17:39.29 | jeg_ | anyone know what the right way to do this is? |
| 17:39.40 | yoyo | is there a way to know wich debian i have installed ...i mean stable, testing or unstable ? |
| 17:40.02 | technolackey | jeg: i think there may be a directory within the directory that would trigger the error |
| 17:40.11 | bbrazil | yoyo: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:40.11 | m0se5 | gm_: chroot /dev/hda2 && passwd root |
| 17:40.13 | wedgeV | jeg_: are you using any wildcards in <path-to-file> ? |
| 17:40.16 | blockd_ | jeg_: scp -r |
| 17:40.21 | gm_ | What does his disk mean? Is it something like the device where root is mounted? |
| 17:40.21 | yoyo | bbrazil, thanks a lot :) |
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| 17:40.47 | technolackey | i have not bulk moved a lot of files so, i rarely use wildcards |
| 17:40.54 | technolackey | when scping stuff |
| 17:40.54 | blockd_ | jeg_: e.g., scp -r user@host:/path/to/dir . |
| 17:40.54 | jeg_ | technolackey: yes, i used the * wildcard; blockd_: thanks! |
| 17:41.03 | gm_ | Should /dev/hda2 be the device where root is mounted? |
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| 17:41.24 | wedgeV | jeg_: you have to quote the user@server.... stuff |
| 17:41.32 | zerve_the_death | you have to found where the /etc/ is |
| 17:41.57 | m0se5 | gm_: the disk and partition of you're / |
| 17:41.59 | mymayer | I have just a problem with my DVD |
| 17:42.01 | bakr | Hello a little time some one gave me a file with a howto to install alsa ... could anyone tell me where to find that file? .... it isn't the one in /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/ .... it was a differtent one.... hopefully some can help me.. |
| 17:42.07 | jeg_ | wedgeV: i'm not sure what you mean exactly, but everything works fine without any "s or 's |
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| 17:42.27 | Miesco | !info xmule sarge |
| 17:42.35 | wedgeV | ok, never mind then ;) |
| 17:42.38 | gm_ | Thanks, I'll try to do that. BRB. |
| 17:42.41 | Miesco | !info xmule etch |
| 17:42.44 | mymayer | iam trying to install the DVD.iso version, but the DVD is broken. he boote and stuff but fails on copieng base system. So my question is, wheater i can say him "take ftp source not CD/DVD" |
| 17:43.04 | abrotman | again ? |
| 17:43.06 | DoubleHP | manu: plz warn me when you solve kernel problem. |
| 17:44.07 | m0se5 | mymayer: if you have broadband internet try http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
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| 17:45.05 | mymayer | abrotman yes |
| 17:45.15 | mymayer | i shoot out my system today |
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| 17:45.24 | mymayer | by resizeng an NTFS part |
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| 17:45.39 | mymayer | he complete wrote over the hole MBR, nothing to do.. |
| 17:45.50 | mymayer | like i hate this "MS work".. |
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| 17:45.56 | palppp | Hello |
| 17:46.13 | mymayer | why implementing functions, which seem to work and give a "done", then destroy anything.. |
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| 17:46.55 | m0se5 | mymayer: cfdisk might help you repair that. or reinstalling grub or windows fixmbr |
| 17:46.59 | dorto | where can i browse through the source code files of various debian packages? |
| 17:47.01 | palppp | I wonder what's the deal with the security.debian.org server? Why can't everything be downloaded from the mirrors? |
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| 17:47.27 | bbrazil | palppp: look through the debian-security mailing list |
| 17:47.44 | m0se5 | dorto: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages |
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| 17:49.06 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Hello ! I have a problem with my sound configuration... ( excuse my bad english, I'm not english ) |
| 17:49.14 | dorto | m0se5: thx :) |
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| 17:49.24 | m0se5 | ThibAuSonFoireux: aslaconf |
| 17:49.38 | m0se5 | ThibAuSonFoireux: opps alsaconf |
| 17:49.42 | gpm | hey, is it normal for a "400GB" harddrive to show up as 372.5GB on my box after it's been formatted? |
| 17:49.56 | DoubleHP | m0se5: answers coming before questions :D |
| 17:50.00 | m0se5 | gpm: yes |
| 17:50.13 | ThibAuSonFoireux | alsaconf > Done |
| 17:50.16 | m0se5 | gpm: cause 400MB is at 1000MB pre 1024MB |
| 17:50.32 | m0se5 | ThibAuSonFoireux: still no work? |
| 17:50.37 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Yes |
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| 17:50.53 | m0se5 | ThibAuSonFoireux: dmesg |
| 17:50.58 | gpm | m0se5: why can't the drive manufacturers and operating system makers agree on a way of measuring space? |
| 17:51.03 | DoubleHP | gpm: manufacturers use k,M,G from physicians, instead of computing, that is 10^3 instead of 2^10 |
| 17:51.08 | ThibAuSonFoireux | The sound works correctly only with applications like XMMS |
| 17:51.16 | dvs | gpm: Blame marketing |
| 17:51.28 | m0se5 | gpm: doing 1000MB makes it sound bigger I guess |
| 17:51.34 | blame | yea that'd be me =) |
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| 17:51.44 | dvs | m0se5: exactly |
| 17:51.44 | Gangillo | ooooooooooooo |
| 17:51.53 | Gangillo | c'è qualcuno?? |
| 17:52.00 | gpm | weak dude |
| 17:52.05 | tombo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.05 | gpm | oh well |
| 17:52.07 | DoubleHP | dvs: gpm manifacturers build bit device, that are 'electronic' ... and international conventions ask to use k=10^3 ... |
| 17:52.18 | tombo | I |
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| 17:52.30 | gpm | why don't OSs use that too then? |
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| 17:52.44 | m0se5 | tombo: ask in ##Linux |
| 17:52.45 | dvs | gpm: Because OSes are RIGHT. |
| 17:52.46 | palppp | I more like wonder what's the point w/ having a separate server for certain packages? |
| 17:52.50 | gpm | lol |
| 17:52.50 | gpm | ok |
| 17:52.51 | gpm | whatever |
| 17:52.56 | gpm | see yous guys later. |
| 17:52.59 | DoubleHP | gpm: because computing systems use k=2^10 ... |
| 17:53.28 | tombo | m0se5: asked there already |
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| 17:54.18 | m0se5 | tombo: echo "string" | export |
| 17:54.26 | ThibAuSonFoireux | The sound out by littles rings ( excuse my very bad english ) |
| 17:54.29 | DoubleHP | m0se5: can you alter the topic ? /topic += "¦ 'apt-get install linux-image-2.6' problems: install initramfs-tools". |
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| 17:55.32 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: I think I understand. Try alsamixer to adjust it. |
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| 17:55.52 | m0se5 | DoubleHP: no, I'm not an op |
| 17:55.54 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Blockd > I'll try it |
| 17:56.12 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: then you'll need to use alsactl to save the changes |
| 17:56.13 | mcohan | A few silly little questions... How can I determine what is blocking an unmount? lsof doesn't show any open files, yet umount reports the device is busy. |
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| 17:56.30 | mcohan | Also, is there any way to set an lvm volume to readonly? |
| 17:56.40 | DoubleHP | abrotman: can you alter the topic ? /topic += "¦ 'apt-get install linux-image-2.6' problems: install initramfs-tools". |
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| 17:57.07 | m0se5 | mcohan: kill konqueror or cd out of the mount point |
| 17:57.08 | Silent_al | umm... what is the minimun space required for the base system installation? |
| 17:57.11 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Blockd > I don't know what to modify |
| 17:57.17 | mcohan | They should change the 2.6.14 image to conflict with initrd-tools. |
| 17:57.22 | Andy837 | apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-4) but 2.0.54-5 is to be installed |
| 17:57.25 | Andy837 | so whats that mean? |
| 17:57.30 | dvs | PLONK |
| 17:57.36 | mcohan | m0se5: not using a GUI... And I'd closed every shell and logged in again. |
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| 17:58.16 | m0se5 | mcohan: ps -aux | less cause something's using it. |
| 17:58.16 | dorto | can i browse the source code cvs tree of debian? |
| 17:58.38 | mcohan | m0se5: That's the thing... NOTHING appears to be... not in ps...and not in lsof |
| 17:58.48 | stew | Andy837: what does "apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-prefork" say for Installed: and Candidate: ? |
| 17:58.49 | mcohan | I am not ready to reboot yet... but I have to unmount this |
| 17:58.53 | ThibAuSonFoireux | HS : A strange thing : try "apt-cache depends epiphany-browser | fgrep mozilla-browser" |
| 17:59.00 | dorto | like there is for freebsd -> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ |
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| 17:59.13 | m0se5 | mcohan: what's the /etc/fstab look like? |
| 17:59.25 | mcohan | It's not in /etc/fstab |
| 17:59.25 | abrotman | DoubleHP: i'm not an op .. is it really that serious ... which does it affect? |
| 17:59.35 | mcohan | Do you mean /etc/mtab? |
| 17:59.41 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: for the "master" column, does it say "MM" at the base? If not, just try pressing "up-arrow" a few times to increase it. |
| 17:59.52 | mcohan | mtab: /dev/mapper/int_ide1-data /fixme reiserfs rw 0 0 |
| 18:00.02 | hawking | tritium : yeah that's what I want :) I need a package which can do derivatives and integration stuff and it should just be an easy GUI |
| 18:00.07 | Andy837 | stew: |
| 18:00.11 | m0se5 | mcohan: no |
| 18:00.13 | Andy837 | installed (none) |
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| 18:00.30 | Andy837 | Candidate: 2.0.54-4 |
| 18:00.53 | stew | Andy837: have you run apt-get update recently? |
| 18:00.55 | gm_ | Hello, again... |
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| 18:01.00 | Andy837 | yeh |
| 18:01.11 | stew | Andy837: paste you sources.list to #flood or a pastebin (don't paste here) |
| 18:01.13 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Blockd > To have "MM", i have to press "down-arrow" |
| 18:01.14 | dbm|1 | hihi.. |
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| 18:01.28 | dorto | does anyone know the link to debian cvs tree for the stable version? |
| 18:01.50 | mcohan | m0se5: Then what is your question? |
| 18:01.56 | m0se5 | mcohan: what command did you use to mount it and what did you use to umount it? |
| 18:01.58 | Andy837 | in #paste |
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| 18:02.22 | mcohan | mount -t resierfs /fixme /dev/ netgear_price.html.gz springwall.txt.gz yellow.txt.gz |
| 18:02.22 | abrotman | DoubleHP: i'm not an op .. is it really that serious ... which does it affect?\ |
| 18:02.25 | mcohan | duesexchea.gz nethackbk sqldesign.txt.gz yenta.gz |
| 18:02.26 | gm_ | This is what happened when I tried to set up the root passwd from Knoppix: root@0[etc]# chroot /mnt/sda3 && passwd root |
| 18:02.27 | gm_ | Knoppix:/# passwd root |
| 18:02.28 | mcohan | dumpall.sql net_proc.gz src |
| 18:02.29 | gm_ | passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
| 18:02.31 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: you don't want MM (muted). You can toggle that by pressing "m". |
| 18:02.34 | mcohan | Sorry, mispaste |
| 18:02.51 | mcohan | anyways, you get the idea... /dev/.../data |
| 18:03.14 | m0se5 | dorto: http://cvs.debian.org/ |
| 18:03.22 | DoubleHP | abrotman: it affects any trying to install a recent 2.6 |
| 18:03.25 | dorto | meh :P |
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| 18:03.44 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Blockd > Without "MM", the sound out by many littles rings |
| 18:04.10 | abrotman | DoubleHP: does it kill your system ? |
| 18:04.27 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: right, so try pressing the up arrow-key a few times on the "master" column |
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| 18:05.29 | ThibAuSonFoireux | It change only the sound level, the rings are always here... :( |
| 18:05.33 | m0se5 | mcohan: not really. mount -t resierfs /fixme /dev/ ? |
| 18:05.38 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Ooops |
| 18:05.44 | ThibAuSonFoireux | arrow-key ? |
| 18:05.46 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: oh, I then I didn't understand your problem |
| 18:06.01 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Ok |
| 18:06.03 | ProperMadDad | when trying to play music with music player I get device /dev/dsp does not exist anyone know how to fix this please |
| 18:06.04 | mcohan | mount -t reiserfs /fixme /dev/int_ide1/data |
| 18:06.08 | mcohan | Tada |
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| 18:06.11 | DoubleHP | abrotman: that bug just prevent getting the system working :) not killing some thing not alive yet. |
| 18:06.11 | mcohan | Anywyas. |
| 18:06.14 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: by "rings" you mean some weird ringing noise? |
| 18:06.15 | gm_ | passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info: Has anyone faced this problem ever? |
| 18:06.25 | mcohan | Anyone know if LVM can be marked read-only? |
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| 18:06.46 | DoubleHP | abrotman: can any standard user accept using 2.4 with a standard box ? |
| 18:06.53 | m0se5 | mcohan: cd / && umount /fixme |
| 18:06.57 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Blockd > I mean the sound out by little parts who are repeated |
| 18:06.58 | aaronlin | I have recently installed Fedora Core on my computer on a spare hard drive of mine. I had Debian on the other drive. However, when I installed Fedora, I accidentely let it auto-install GRUB, so now I cannot boot on Debian. Where do I go to reconfigure GRUB? |
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| 18:07.17 | blockd_ | mcohan: you can mount the filesystems on LVM as readonly... |
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| 18:07.50 | ProperMadDad | aaronlin edit the grub.conf file in /bott/grub |
| 18:07.53 | mcohan | blockd_: Any way to actually mark the device as untouchable? |
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| 18:07.55 | blockd_ | ThibAuSonFoireux: oh, it echoes |
| 18:07.55 | Roey | hi |
| 18:07.57 | Roey | anyone here have a tablet? |
| 18:08.00 | Roey | Wacom tablet? |
| 18:08.01 | mcohan | m0se5: ?? What do you think I've been doing? |
| 18:08.14 | m0se5 | mcohan: asking for help. |
| 18:08.19 | ProperMadDad | aaronlin edit the grub.conf file in /boot/grub sorry |
| 18:08.21 | ThibAuSonFoireux | Blockd > Exact ! It's what I means |
| 18:08.28 | aaronlin | k, thx |
| 18:08.28 | mcohan | True, but I already said I'd run umount. |
| 18:08.34 | aaronlin | I'm not sure exactly |
| 18:08.37 | mcohan | and that I wasn't using a GUI. |
| 18:08.38 | aaronlin | what hd0,0 etc. mean |
| 18:08.59 | aaronlin | Debian is on the first hard drive (I assume that is hda?), and Fedora is on hdb? |
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| 18:09.11 | blockd_ | mcohan: it's sort of like asking how to make any device or partition readonly... |
| 18:09.23 | mcohan | m0se5: I appreciate the help on that sense... but I started with that. |
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| 18:09.33 | ProperMadDad | aaronlin thats the hard disk hd0,0 =hda hd0,1-hdb etc |
| 18:09.41 | mcohan | blockd_: Yep, I've got a dying HD...so the lower level I make it read-only...the better |
| 18:09.44 | aaronlin | I see |
| 18:09.47 | m0se5 | mcohan: I've only ever seen 1 way to get a device is busy from umount. the mount point is in use. |
| 18:09.49 | aaronlin | currently it says root(hd1,0) |
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| 18:09.52 | Silent_al | what is the minimun space required for the base system installation? |
| 18:09.53 | aaronlin | for Fedora |
| 18:10.00 | aaronlin | so for Debian, I use (hd0,0) |
| 18:10.12 | abrotman | DoubleHP: yes .. are you saying it's a daily netinst |
| 18:10.13 | abrotman | ? |
| 18:10.15 | mcohan | Hmm, I wonder what happens of I do a chmod a-w /dev/hda* |
| 18:10.23 | ProperMadDad | aaronlin if debian is on the first hard disk |
| 18:10.30 | _joey | I have a custom package install, when I run dpkg -l | grep package -the output doesn't display the full name it was registered. so how do find the exact name I need to use with dpkg --remove to get rid of it ? |
| 18:10.32 | mcohan | That might just do the trick |
| 18:10.33 | mcohan | :) |
| 18:10.39 | gm_ | m0se5 and blockd_: I was very hopeful that the suggestion of chroot /dev/hda2 && passwd root will alllow me to set a passwd for root. But it doesn't. Is there anything else that one may try? |
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| 18:10.49 | mcohan | m0se5: Yep, I understand... yet I've exited every shell, etc. |
| 18:11.02 | blockd_ | mcohan: can't you just mount it readonly? |
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| 18:11.08 | aaronlin | kk, sounds good |
| 18:11.12 | m0se5 | Silent_al: I'm not sure right off hand but you could probably get away with under 50MB for a bare system. |
| 18:11.29 | aaronlin | uh..hmm |
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| 18:12.02 | aaronlin | ProperMadDad: would you mind if PM'd you menu.lst? |
| 18:12.04 | blockd_ | mcohan: I mean if you're not writing to the filesystem... is there something that's writing to the raw device? It could be a security measure, but I don't know if that'll help your HDD die less quickly... |
| 18:12.19 | m0se5 | mcohan: what kind of device is that anyway. I've seen /dev/hdx, sdx, fdx... |
| 18:12.34 | ProperMadDad | aaronlin I just going to have tea |
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| 18:13.07 | m0se5 | mcohan: did you ask the guys in ##linux? |
| 18:13.07 | aaronlin | oh, nm, thx anyway |
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| 18:13.29 | ProperMadDad | aaronlin sorry but wife naging me |
| 18:14.08 | Andy837 | stew: you still there? |
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| 18:14.42 | _joey | how do I delete the package ? |
| 18:14.43 | _joey | :) |
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| 18:15.01 | m0se5 | _joey: apt-get remove package |
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| 18:15.42 | _joey | m0se5 it is not deleted only marked with rc |
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| 18:16.05 | m0se5 | _joey: apt-get --purge remove package |
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| 18:16.22 | tung | I have one a tung account on my punisher computer. tung can play audio. |
| 18:16.22 | tung | I created a new user account vuon on the punisher computer. The new user |
| 18:16.22 | tung | account vuon cannot play audio. But the tung can... |
| 18:16.34 | tung | http://code.bulix.org/855 |
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| 18:16.45 | blockd_ | tung: check the difference between "id tung" and "id vuon" |
| 18:16.49 | _joey | m0se5 it is still there in the database marked with rc |
| 18:16.53 | blockd_ | tung: one's probably in an "audio" group and the other isn't. |
| 18:16.56 | rutski89 | I need some help in chemistry, pm me if you willing |
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| 18:17.34 | _joey | okay got rid of it now |
| 18:17.48 | m0se5 | _joey: I'm not sure what "rc"'s means |
| 18:17.58 | tung | blockd_: that looks like it, im gonna logout out and try |
| 18:18.03 | tung | blockd_: thanks |
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| 18:18.10 | blockd_ | tung: np |
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| 18:19.48 | _joey | okay, I've got some modules in non default directory. how do I automitcally load the during boot up ? |
| 18:19.55 | DoubleHP | abrotman: I am installing my box atm, booted 2.4 installed from CD, and now whishing to get a 2.6 to get machine usable: hal, udev ... |
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| 18:21.00 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:21.00 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 18:21.02 | Oceanborn | What difference between apt-get install gnome-core/experimental and apt-get install -t experimental gnome-core ? |
| 18:21.41 | Oceanborn | In 1st case I see broken dependencies warnings... |
| 18:21.48 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's weekend. stop working. /join #bub-n-bros let's play some bubbling, k? |
| 18:21.51 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 18:21.51 | dpkg | <jetscreamer> hey isn't there some way to get a 4g file on fat32? like some different version of fat32 or something? |
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| 18:22.20 | cheal | Oceanborn: the first only gets gnome-core from experimental |
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| 18:23.33 | RIVANVX | !qotd1 |
| 18:23.34 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
| 18:24.56 | Andy837 | ANY IDEA WHAT THIS IS: apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-4) but 2.0.54-5 is to be installed |
| 18:24.59 | Andy837 | how can i correct it? |
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| 18:25.12 | Oceanborn | cheal, I see some broken dependencies in 1st case (and apt trying o install older versions), but all packages are available in experimental branch... All cool if I am using -t experimentsl. Why? |
| 18:25.12 | abrotman | DoubleHP: but it's a daily netinst or not ? |
| 18:25.18 | tarzeau | Andy837: correct what? |
| 18:25.27 | Andy837 | well what does it mean? |
| 18:25.33 | tarzeau | Andy837: can you not read it? |
| 18:25.45 | Andy837 | i dont understand it! |
| 18:25.48 | tarzeau | Andy837: what happens? |
| 18:25.56 | tarzeau | Andy837: is that a versioned dependency? |
| 18:26.03 | Andy837 | :S |
| 18:26.13 | tarzeau | Andy837: any reason you want apache2 ? |
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| 18:26.28 | DoubleHP | abrotman: what do you call daily ? I bought a new HDD last week, and this morning, I decided to put Debian on it ... using a net inst CD Sarge |
| 18:26.35 | Andy837 | yeh - to run a hosting soltion (demo) |
| 18:26.48 | EdibleText | heh |
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| 18:26.53 | abrotman | DoubleHP: ah .. it's a sarge netinst .. ok .. and 2.6 doesn't work ? .. .have you asked #debian-boot ? |
| 18:26.55 | feenode | hi, is there a debian package for lyx that works? |
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| 18:27.12 | TiMiDo | feenode huh? |
| 18:27.17 | TiMiDo | feenode you mean lynx? |
| 18:27.22 | feenode | TiMiDo: no, LyX |
| 18:27.27 | TiMiDo | !info lyx |
| 18:27.29 | feenode | TiMiDo: the frontend to LaTeX |
| 18:27.34 | dpkg | lyx: (High Level Word Processor), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.3.6-1 (sid), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 44 kB |
| 18:27.38 | TiMiDo | yeah there it is |
| 18:27.44 | TiMiDo | is on sid though |
| 18:27.51 | feenode | it was installed up until a while ago |
| 18:27.57 | feenode | i just tried to run it and it seems to have disappeared |
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| 18:28.03 | EdibleText | !info lyx stable |
| 18:28.05 | feenode | and now its no longer apt-gettable |
| 18:28.07 | dpkg | lyx: (High Level Word Processor), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.3.4-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 60 kB |
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| 18:28.11 | feenode | i think i'm running testing |
| 18:28.16 | TiMiDo | feenode do apt-get update |
| 18:28.19 | TiMiDo | and try installing it again |
| 18:28.25 | feenode | i did |
| 18:28.32 | TiMiDo | feenode cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 18:29.00 | feenode | deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 18:29.00 | feenode | deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main |
| 18:29.00 | feenode | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main |
| 18:29.05 | TiMiDo | Don't pasted it |
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| 18:29.09 | TiMiDo | Just keep it to you're self |
| 18:29.17 | feenode | oh sorry |
| 18:29.23 | TiMiDo | Don't Worry |
| 18:29.26 | tarzeau | it must be weekend. WHY DO PEOPEL USE TESTING? |
| 18:29.34 | tarzeau | and unofficial mirrors? |
| 18:29.36 | TiMiDo | Not sure tarzeau |
| 18:29.41 | feenode | tarzeau: i have no good answer to that |
| 18:29.44 | TiMiDo | good question ;p |
| 18:30.01 | feenode | tarzeau: what mirror should i use? |
| 18:30.11 | tarzeau | freenik: any official one. try telnet linuks.mine.nu for mine |
| 18:30.26 | widrone | John_S: http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/cross/ ? |
| 18:30.29 | tarzeau | preferable one near you |
| 18:30.57 | feenode | kernel.org isn't official? but linuks.mine.nu is ? |
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| 18:31.04 | tarzeau | freenik: no. no. |
| 18:31.18 | tarzeau | freenik: only mirrors with the name debian.org are official |
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| 18:31.48 | widrone | Its being worked at atm. |
| 18:31.54 | TiMiDo | just do apt-setup |
| 18:31.57 | TiMiDo | and set it up again |
| 18:32.19 | feenode | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.19 | feenode | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.23 | feenode | well there's the problem |
| 18:32.27 | DoubleHP | abrotman: my saying is that in order to be able to apt get 2.6, I need to install first an other package that should be installed through dependency tree , NOT requireing manual selection ! so, please just add my comment in topic so that other users can use my solution before I have time to report (lekely not before tomorrow night). I have seen other user complaining here already. |
| 18:32.29 | feenode | :< |
| 18:32.41 | TiMiDo | oh |
| 18:32.43 | TiMiDo | dependecies |
| 18:32.45 | tarzeau | freenik: you really have debian? |
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| 18:33.36 | feenode | tarzeau: yeah |
| 18:34.18 | cockroach | tarzeau: hi! |
| 18:34.49 | tarzeau | hi cockroach |
| 18:35.14 | cockroach | tarzeau: do you know what happened to the login.app package? |
| 18:35.59 | tarzeau | cockroach: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=login.app |
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| 18:36.07 | tarzeau | cockroach: what should've happened to it? |
| 18:36.13 | tarzeau | cockroach: i know someone maintains a version 2.x of it |
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| 18:36.23 | abrotman | DoubleHP: i can't .. and you need to tell #debian-boot |
| 18:36.48 | cockroach | tarzeau: it's not in testing/unstable anymore (only in amd64)... |
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| 18:37.02 | DoubleHP | abrotman: I ll report within 24h any way |
| 18:37.02 | tarzeau | cockroach: oh, i see it |
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| 18:37.09 | cheal | feenode: what does $ apt-cache policy lyx-common|grep andi; return? |
| 18:37.15 | simy | How can i seemlessly to any devices plug a router into my laptop and use the wireless card/signal as an internet connection? or what would i need to read up on for that? i dont even know what search term to google... other then things that are probibly to vauge... |
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| 18:37.21 | tarzeau | cockroach: it might've gotten orphaned... let's see the changelog |
| 18:37.36 | feenode | tarzeau: i decided to just move to unstable |
| 18:37.56 | feenode | tarzeau: so now its downloading the lyx packages |
| 18:38.19 | tarzeau | cockroach: you might want to maintain it |
| 18:38.22 | freerad | Hello everybody, can someone help me with mouse problem ? |
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| 18:38.30 | tarzeau | cockroach: or find where the 2.x package is, and ask its maintainer to include it in main |
| 18:38.30 | cockroach | tarzeau: okay, i'll consider that. |
| 18:38.46 | tarzeau | cockroach: better find the 2.x one, i've tried it once, and it was much better imho |
| 18:38.48 | simy | freerad: ask your question, specificaly whats your problem? |
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| 18:38.58 | kenalex | hello |
| 18:39.01 | simy | hi |
| 18:39.01 | tarzeau | feenode: smart |
| 18:39.04 | kenalex | i want to get debian |
| 18:39.11 | tarzeau | kenalex: www.debian.org |
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| 18:39.21 | cockroach | tarzeau: the only time i tried 2.x it didn't work at all :) |
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| 18:39.31 | kenalex | and i only want the console tools and not alll the xwindows stuff which CD should I download |
| 18:39.31 | freerad | after installling new packcages (including KDE and X) my mouse works fine on gpm but not under X-server |
| 18:39.37 | simy | kenalex: i suggest you do the net install option (less to write to a disk, and less to download initially) |
| 18:39.37 | tarzeau | cockroach: deb package or source? |
| 18:39.48 | kenalex | ok thanks |
| 18:39.52 | freerad | Ive tried to configure it |
| 18:39.56 | cheal | !xwindows |
| 18:39.56 | dpkg | xwindows is, like, NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, The X Window System, X11R6, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap |
| 18:40.00 | freerad | deb package |
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| 18:40.16 | cockroach | tarzeau: source, iirc |
| 18:40.39 | tarzeau | cockroach: well i tried the deb package, and it worked perfectly. and that was years ago |
| 18:41.10 | simy | freerad: so your mouse will work at the login screen, but not after you login, is that what your saying? |
| 18:41.15 | feenode | ok thanks |
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| 18:41.32 | freerad | also no at the login screen |
| 18:42.03 | freerad | only at console without X server with gpm |
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| 18:43.02 | simy | freerad: i dont think i know enough to help you, sorry... :( |
| 18:43.14 | freerad | thenk's anyway... |
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| 18:43.27 | mtnman | !tell freerad about gpm |
| 18:43.40 | DoubleHP | abrotman: #336750 was open before me. |
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| 18:44.13 | simy | !tell simy about gpm |
| 18:44.21 | paulswm | !beer abrotman |
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| 18:44.37 | ubik` | !tell ubik about gpm |
| 18:44.39 | ubik` | hm |
| 18:44.51 | simy | hey, thats my trick, lol |
| 18:44.59 | fbi | !tell everyone about msg_the_bot |
| 18:45.04 | simy | if sombody uses any of the tell's i generally do it to myself, lol |
| 18:45.09 | ubik` | !tell ubik about nothing |
| 18:45.15 | simy | !tell simy about msg_the_bot |
| 18:45.21 | ubik` | i heard nothing is the most important thing ever. |
| 18:45.23 | simy | !tell simy about nothing |
| 18:45.23 | ubik` | lol |
| 18:45.24 | DoubleHP | fbi: I did not receive anything yet |
| 18:45.35 | simy | lol |
| 18:45.36 | fbi | you weren't supposed to. |
| 18:45.38 | mtnman | simy: /msg dpkg gpm is better than !tell [me] about gpm |
| 18:45.39 | DoubleHP | !tell me about love |
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| 18:46.07 | simy | mtnman: because it wont massivly flood the chatroom, does it work the same? (as far as dpkg is concerned) |
| 18:46.23 | mtnman | works the same w/o flooding, yes. |
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| 18:47.00 | simy | mtnman: ok cool if i remember it when i wake up, then ill remember it, lol (working on 20 some hours, with only 4 hours sleep 20 hrs ago, lol :( |
| 18:47.00 | volunteer | I have a winmodem, found the driver, works great, but the device /dev/ttyLTO dissapears on reboot, what config file do I change to make it static? |
| 18:47.17 | fbi | !tel simy about lol |
| 18:47.22 | fbi | whooops |
| 18:47.26 | paulswm | simy: It's a channel, not a chatroom, btw |
| 18:47.37 | fbi | !room |
| 18:47.37 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 18:47.49 | kenalex | is ubuntu like debian |
| 18:47.54 | abrotman | no .. it's ubuntu |
| 18:47.55 | paulswm | !botsnack |
| 18:47.56 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 18:47.56 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 18:48.05 | mtnman | volunteer: how do you get it to work in the first place? |
| 18:48.10 | fbi | tarzeau: the new kbsd installer is great. |
| 18:48.14 | chuck_gr | kenalex, they are similar |
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| 18:48.26 | abrotman | not really |
| 18:48.34 | abrotman | ubuntu is based on debian .. but it is NOT debian |
| 18:48.40 | tarzeau | fbi: indeed, i liked it very much too. |
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| 18:51.42 | chuck_gr | kenalex, if ya have questions about ubuntu try #ubuntu |
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| 18:53.25 | mlalkaka | hi |
| 18:54.05 | chuck_gr | mlalkaka, hi |
| 18:54.11 | mlalkaka | how can i extract a certain directory/file from a .tar.bz2 file instead of the whole package? i've read the man page and it doesn't mention anything about it. |
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| 18:55.56 | abrotman | first bunzip it .. then man tar |
| 18:56.08 | paulswm | mlalkaka: try the tar man page. something like 'tar xjf file.tar.bz2 exact-file-as-in-tar' |
| 18:56.48 | tarzeau | mlalkaka: why not use mc on it? |
| 18:56.51 | tarzeau | !mc |
| 18:56.51 | dpkg | methinks mc is Midnight Commander, a file browser for GNU. Monaco |
| 18:57.01 | paulswm | mlalkaka: to find it in the tar file if you don't know the exact filename, 'tar tjf file.tar.bz2 | grep filename' |
| 18:57.05 | mlalkaka | paulswm, i read the man page. it doesn't say anything about it. it does say, though that the info page is more informative so i'll try that |
| 18:57.11 | mlalkaka | tarzeau, oh yeah. i forgot about mc |
| 18:57.20 | paulswm | mlalkaka: Well I just told you how to do it anyway :) |
| 18:57.31 | tarzeau | !ocp |
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| 18:57.34 | mlalkaka | paulswm, thanks :) |
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| 18:58.23 | tarzeau | dpkg ocp is http://labs.nixia.no/ocp.php |
| 18:58.24 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
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| 19:00.17 | tarzeau | OMG EMACS.APP 23 is out almost |
| 19:00.29 | mlalkaka | paulswm, tarzeau: thanks. cya |
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| 19:03.20 | bakr | Hello a little time some one gave me a file with a howto to install alsa ... could anyone tell me where to find that file? .... it isn't the one in /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/ .... it was a differtent one.... hopefully some can help me.. |
| 19:03.20 | Unuma678 | I have several .rar files that are splited to .part1.rar .part2.rar files.. how can i unrar them to one file? |
| 19:03.29 | Unuma678 | i mean how can i extract the file that is in there |
| 19:03.32 | tarzeau | Unuma678: man rar |
| 19:03.50 | tarzeau | bakr: what kernel do you have? |
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| 19:04.04 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: I did unrar e (file name) , and it didn't work |
| 19:04.21 | bakr | tarzeau: How can i see that ? |
| 19:04.26 | tarzeau | bakr: uname -a |
| 19:04.38 | tarzeau | Unuma678: did you read man rar and man unrar? |
| 19:04.53 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: it says do with e command , and i did it |
| 19:05.04 | tarzeau | Unuma678: what was the exact command you did? |
| 19:05.08 | bakr | tarzeau: Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 19:05.17 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: unrar e (filename).rar |
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| 19:05.23 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: and it gave me errors |
| 19:05.26 | tarzeau | bakr: did you apt-cache search alsa, yet? |
| 19:05.37 | bakr | tarzeau: nope |
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| 19:06.05 | tarzeau | bakr: dunno, i've extracted multifile rars without problems, haven't had them for years though |
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| 19:06.46 | bakr | tarzeau: i think you mean someone else |
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| 19:07.01 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: well? |
| 19:07.14 | tarzeau | Unuma678: i meant you. dunno. you must be doing something wrong |
| 19:07.22 | tarzeau | Unuma678: wait, which unrar/rar do you use? |
| 19:07.32 | fbi | bakr: you need to patch your 2.4 kernel with alsa-modules, or install a 2.6 kernel; apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf; alsamixer |
| 19:07.32 | tarzeau | i think there is/was a non-free one and a free one |
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| 19:07.38 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: I have both |
| 19:07.49 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: rar, unrar |
| 19:08.14 | tarzeau | Unuma678: which version? |
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| 19:09.45 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: a new one.. |
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| 19:10.01 | Unuma678 | tarzeau: 3.30 |
| 19:10.07 | streuner | Unuma678: what does 'file foo.rar' say? |
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| 19:10.51 | Unuma678 | streuner: RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32 |
| 19:11.19 | fbi | !beer streuner |
| 19:11.40 | fbi | i still don't see what the bot does when you do that |
| 19:11.46 | blockd | Unuma678: quick sanity check: if the files are file.part1.rar file.part2.rar..., are you only doing "rar e file.part1.rar"? |
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| 19:12.00 | [M]av | hi |
| 19:12.01 | blockd | or unrar, same diff |
| 19:12.29 | ubik` | rar x file.part1.rar |
| 19:12.42 | Unuma678 | blockd: I did rar e file.part1.rar , and also with rar e file1 file2 file3 file4 |
| 19:12.53 | blockd | you only need to do it for the first file |
| 19:13.03 | blockd | first part I mean |
| 19:13.08 | [M]av | I'm compiling kernel 2.6.8 but it stops at fs/locks.c, any idea? [sorry for my poor english] |
| 19:13.23 | fbi | [M]av: why compile? |
| 19:13.52 | [M]av | fbi? |
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| 19:14.19 | fbi | [M]av: there are 2.6 debian kernel images in all the branches, why are you compiling? |
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| 19:14.53 | [M]av | becase i want compile it. |
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| 19:15.08 | fbi | have fun! |
| 19:15.12 | [M]av | tnx |
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| 19:15.56 | [M]av | the message is fs/locks.c: In function "flock_translate_cmd" |
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| 19:16.41 | [M]av | any idea? |
| 19:16.50 | fbi | [M]av: ask in #kernel. most users in this channel run debian so they *don't* have to compile. |
| 19:17.05 | [M]av | ok. tnx |
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| 19:21.13 | prock | how can I force a2ps to force output to be fixed width? |
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| 19:23.56 | mikil | yo kids |
| 19:25.31 | AtnNn | does anyone know of a command-line ftp/sftp client that lets you specify the local port? |
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| 19:27.36 | samuel | sup all |
| 19:28.01 | douglas_ | hey sambo |
| 19:28.51 | samuel | ive got linux bluetooth with LAN access working on my linux pc... but i cant get windows mobile to connect to it, what room might be the appropiate to ask that? |
| 19:29.10 | douglas_ | what's the max speed of a cdrom without shattering the disc from too much physics-related stuff? |
| 19:29.13 | boogie | I hate it when a computer locks up hard. Nothing to tell you what went wrong, no logs... |
| 19:29.52 | douglas_ | samuel: carefully constructed question, not bad |
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| 19:30.36 | samuel | douglas_, heh :) |
| 19:31.09 | samuel | douglas_, i hate windows mobile... too bad linux doesnt work well yet with my pocket pc... |
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| 19:31.56 | douglas_ | you can ask anything so long as you can make a loose tie to debian .. eg, "i've got debian linux bluetooth..." |
| 19:32.28 | samuel | hehehehe |
| 19:32.31 | douglas_ | well dont even say linux just go with debian |
| 19:32.49 | douglas_ | sorry i can't help you, just keeping things moving until someone smart helps you |
| 19:32.55 | SimonRaven | ignoring gnu/kfreebsd and gnu/hurd |
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| 19:34.03 | douglas_ | Does google adsense dig through the site for dirty content or would a domain name itself rule out a potential customer? |
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| 19:34.12 | m0se5 | Anyone know of a program that will convert word (.doc) files into html without X? |
| 19:34.22 | SimonRaven | something you'd ask them, methinks... |
| 19:34.35 | SimonRaven | m0se5: antiword, several others |
| 19:34.56 | douglas_ | m0se5: msword :) |
| 19:35.38 | douglas_ | woah did i just "go there" |
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| 19:36.09 | m0se5 | douglas_: well, technically it isn't X. |
| 19:36.33 | SimonRaven | no, just dumb |
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| 19:36.40 | douglas | right i was about to say that simon |
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| 19:38.50 | douglas | any way to get vnc to let you mount onto whatever the console's on and not start up a fresh x session? IE, like vnc does with ms win? |
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| 19:39.27 | _profoX_ | lol |
| 19:39.32 | _profoX_ | typisch da ge hier ook zit :D |
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| 19:39.41 | widrone | !lol |
| 19:39.41 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 19:39.50 | phar0z | ah |
| 19:40.01 | _profoX_ | druk :| :P |
| 19:40.09 | phar0z | in debian ist drukker dan in ubuntu |
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| 19:40.18 | phar0z | ff gewoon #ubuntu joinen |
| 19:40.21 | _profoX_ | ok |
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| 19:40.44 | Fox_1_ | from where i can get docbook dtd documentation? |
| 19:41.10 | abrotman | w3.org? |
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| 19:45.13 | valdyn | douglas: vino does that |
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| 19:45.43 | douglas | heh i'll try |
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| 19:47.53 | Blissex | Fox_1_: thats not easy or simple... |
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| 19:48.03 | Blissex | Fox_1_: there are lots of docs at http://WWW.DocBook.org/ |
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| 19:48.32 | Blissex | Fox_1_: also look at http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/DocBook/ for some materials and links |
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| 19:49.03 | Blissex | Fox_1_: that was http://www.sabi.co.uk/Proj/DocBook/ oops |
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| 19:50.35 | Lanix | i have just install xp , and the grub i guess is gone or not in mrb , how do i fix it , i can see that debian is still there but no boot loader |
| 19:50.36 | Lanix | ? |
| 19:50.51 | fbi | !fixmbr |
| 19:50.52 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target), then chroot into it (chroot /target), then run "grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub". |
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| 19:52.38 | Mr-R | update-grub exists? argh. and i write menu-lst files all by myself... :) |
| 19:53.02 | OleMoudi | argh, me too :( |
| 19:53.12 | ubik` | me too |
| 19:53.20 | fbi | you mean menu.lst, and there is nothing wrong with editing that |
| 19:53.22 | ubik` | :p |
| 19:53.47 | Mr-R | yes i do. but update-grub sounds easier... :) |
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| 19:54.54 | bakr | Can anyone tell me what's the best music player for debian ? It has to play almost ervery music file there is and usus LOW recourses.. |
| 19:55.29 | douglas | vlc, xmms.. |
| 19:55.30 | ubik` | i use xmms |
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| 19:55.36 | fbi | bakr: mplayer from marillat will play pretty much anything, i prefer mpg321 for audio files though |
| 19:55.46 | douglas | mplayer's not the lowest in resources |
| 19:56.05 | fbi | and vlc is? heh. whatever |
| 19:56.11 | douglas | video lan client |
| 19:56.14 | Blissex | douglas: just as Iraq is not fully peaceful yet :-) |
| 19:56.23 | douglas | point taken |
| 19:56.37 | fbi | i don't know _anyone_ who uses vlc for audio anyway. |
| 19:56.40 | bakr | i have only 266 mhz and 128 mbram so i need very very low recourses. |
| 19:56.43 | douglas | vlc plays exciting nano .mp4 video files! |
| 19:57.05 | douglas | bakr, you have any idea how much that'd go for on ebay? |
| 19:57.05 | DosBubba | But only the exciting ones. |
| 19:57.13 | fbi | bakr: if you want something you can use with screen, and have running in the background, you want mpg321 or mplayer |
| 19:57.25 | douglas | you probably just paid more on electricity this session than a superior one would cost |
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| 19:57.54 | douglas | consider lightweight wm's like ice |
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| 19:58.10 | Blissex | bakr: 'mpg321' and 'ogg123' are pretty lighweight |
| 19:58.10 | fbi | uh, did he ask for a window manager? |
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| 19:58.28 | douglas | fbi stop busting my balls |
| 19:58.30 | fbi | he asks for something to play music files, and you say 'vlc' and 'icewm' |
| 19:58.35 | fbi | *plonk* |
| 19:59.25 | bakr | mpg321 plays only mp3 for so far i can read it |
| 19:59.36 | douglas | is achims-guestbook the only web guestbook in a .deb? |
| 19:59.43 | fbi | bakr: you want mplayer, from marillat |
| 19:59.47 | fbi | !mplayer |
| 19:59.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
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| 20:01.41 | puits | alllo |
| 20:02.20 | Mjelva | guys. i'm running debian sarge on my laptop, and i try to play DVDs on it. but xine plays really choppy, and says i have no MTRR support in kernel. how to fix? |
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| 20:02.45 | bakr | i need to use .deb files for media players, i'm not into that building... not enough experience... exely no experience... i use linux ( debian ) for 2 weeks now... |
| 20:02.58 | puits | aqllllloooo |
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| 20:03.28 | fbi | bakr: marillat is an unofficial repository. you can use apt-get/aptitude just like you do for installing official packages. |
| 20:03.28 | freerad | dpkg, Simy, and all the guys who help's me with my mouse pronlem, thenk's |
| 20:03.46 | puits | haloooo |
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| 20:04.12 | fbi | puits: we see you. start talking Debian or go elsewhere. |
| 20:04.19 | jron | i realize this isn't #ubuntu... but noone there seems to know what's up =( |
| 20:04.24 | jron | I have a ATI TV Wonderer VE... it for whatever reason tvtime detects the signal to be pal so everything is black and white and off by 1 chan... i've had this problem before and i used the fix on the website to solve it... that fix being adding: options bttv card=1 autoload=0 radio=0 tuner=2 to /etc/modules.conf that was using gentoo however... now when i put the same line in my modules file for ubuntu, it does nothing... |
| 20:04.38 | SimonRaven | !they don't know |
| 20:04.39 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 20:04.42 | fbi | jron: no one in here is going to give you Ubuntu support. |
| 20:04.44 | valdyn | Mjelva: load the appropriate agpgart driver |
| 20:04.46 | puits | u from |
| 20:05.04 | Mjelva | valdyn - i don't know what that is :( |
| 20:05.11 | jron | at least i'm being honest... i could have just said i was running debian.... |
| 20:05.15 | valdyn | Mjelva: are you using a custom kernel? |
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| 20:05.26 | Enervatia | o_0 |
| 20:05.33 | Mjelva | valdyn - no. just debian, testing distro. |
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| 20:05.51 | Enervatia | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
| 20:05.52 | Enervatia | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
| 20:05.59 | Mjelva | flood = b7 |
| 20:06.00 | Enervatia | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
| 20:06.03 | Mjelva | :( |
| 20:06.04 | jron | or i could be gay like that.... |
| 20:06.05 | Skrotto | yes, capital idea! Let's flood! |
| 20:06.06 | Enervatia | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
| 20:06.07 | fbi | !ops Enervatia flooding |
| 20:06.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Enervatia flooding |
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| 20:06.13 | SimonRaven | @ops Enervatia spamming |
| 20:06.14 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Enervatia spamming |
| 20:06.17 | SimonRaven | eh |
| 20:06.26 | SimonRaven | Skrotto: shut up |
| 20:06.29 | theUg | Hi everyone. Is VIM comes with all linux distros as a text-mode editor (edit <flename>)? |
| 20:06.31 | TML | hm |
| 20:06.36 | TML | maybe his keys were stuck |
| 20:06.42 | Skrotto | SimonRaven: Sarcasm - look it up. |
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| 20:06.56 | Coweater | theUg: vi usually does |
| 20:07.05 | SimonRaven | this is text, i can't see your face, sorry |
| 20:07.10 | theUg | Skrotto: I am with ye. ;) |
| 20:07.11 | fbi | haha |
| 20:07.19 | puits | haiiiii |
| 20:07.21 | Mjelva | what should i do, valdyn ? |
| 20:07.24 | puits | pleaxse |
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| 20:07.34 | bucky | !sunday |
| 20:07.34 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 20:07.35 | Skrotto | SimonRaven: I know. :) |
| 20:07.49 | SimonRaven | TML: ok, so explain why s/he left after the flood? ;) |
| 20:07.52 | puits | excuse me |
| 20:07.54 | valdyn | Mjelva: lspci | grep -i agp |
| 20:08.05 | puits | haihahaiaa |
| 20:08.20 | TML | SimonRaven: *shrug* Maybe he couldn't make it stop and closed his client |
| 20:08.24 | TML | I don't know. :P |
| 20:08.26 | puits | lsda |
| 20:08.28 | puits | sld;as |
| 20:08.29 | puits | ,aslk[ |
| 20:08.32 | SimonRaven | good point |
| 20:08.34 | puits | a;; |
| 20:08.36 | fbi | !ops puits being an idiot |
| 20:08.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: puits being an idiot |
| 20:08.47 | guru | i'm trying to get my linksys wpc11 wireless pcmcia card working but wlan.agent keeps locking up...could there be a conflict with ndiswrapper and my other (removed) linksys wpc54g wireless pcmcia card? |
| 20:08.49 | puits | halo fbi |
| 20:08.51 | TML | puits: Stop |
| 20:08.58 | SimonRaven | um, TML is right there :) |
| 20:09.02 | puits | why |
| 20:09.04 | theUg | Coweater: stupid question, but how do you save it? I spent about twenty minutes the other day editing grub/menu.lst, made about 5 extra .swp files in the process. |
| 20:09.09 | fbi | yeah, i just did a huge bong rip |
| 20:09.11 | fbi | didn't notice |
| 20:09.21 | TML | puits: Because it's annoying. |
| 20:09.28 | puits | how |
| 20:09.35 | puits | i dont no |
| 20:09.38 | Mjelva | valdyn - that didn't do anything. what am i doing wrong here? |
| 20:09.42 | *** mode/#debian [+o TML] by ChanServ |
| 20:09.45 | *** mode/#debian [+b %puits!*@*] by TML |
| 20:09.46 | SerajewelKS | !troll puits |
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| 20:09.51 | valdyn | Mjelva: is your gfx card an AGP card? |
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| 20:10.17 | Mjelva | valdyn - probably. it's a laptop, tho, so i don't have 100% control of what's in it. |
| 20:10.27 | Mjelva | how do i check? |
| 20:10.29 | Coweater | theUg: in command mode, :w |
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| 20:10.39 | Silent_al | which kernel version should i use for pentium 1 , 386 or 686? |
| 20:10.52 | SerajewelKS | Silent_al: 386 iirc |
| 20:10.53 | bbrazil | 386 |
| 20:10.54 | jdavis | Is anyone else having problems with the oo.o 2.0 packages in unstable? I keep getting: "/usr/lib/openoffice/program/javaldx: relocation error: /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0: symbol errno, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference" |
| 20:10.57 | valdyn | Mjelva: run 'lspci | grep -i unknown |
| 20:10.59 | Silent_al | thanx |
| 20:11.01 | bbrazil | 686 is p2 |
| 20:11.01 | guru | what was the keyword to dpkg for wireless networking on debian? |
| 20:11.06 | valdyn | Mjelva: if that outputs anything at all, run update-pciids |
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| 20:11.20 | Coweater | theUg: if you want to use vi look up a quick tutorial on google, or if you'd rather something without a learning curve use nano |
| 20:11.21 | theUg | Coweater: how do you go in command mode? I think I get there once looking for help (<F1>) but it is not obvious. |
| 20:11.32 | Mjelva | valdyn - for some reason, commands with | do nothing at all on my system |
| 20:11.38 | Coweater | esc or ctrl-[ |
| 20:11.43 | TML | jdavis: Which version of libc6 do you have installed? |
| 20:11.50 | Mjelva | i've had it happen with several different commands |
| 20:11.55 | valdyn | Mjelva: lspci | grep -i 0 |
| 20:11.55 | theUg | Coweater: does nano work in text mode? |
| 20:12.02 | jdavis | Version: 2.3.5-7 |
| 20:12.06 | valdyn | Mjelva: if that outputs nothing.. then you are right |
| 20:12.11 | Coweater | theUg: yes |
| 20:12.13 | fbi | ehm. how else would nano work? |
| 20:12.14 | Mjelva | valdyn - that outputted a lot of stuff |
| 20:12.14 | valdyn | Mjelva: 0 as zero |
| 20:12.25 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: 'grep -i 0'? 0 is a letter? |
| 20:12.34 | theUg | I have to work with it cause I am trying to fix my monitor's synchs |
| 20:12.35 | Mjelva | valdyn - yes. 0 |
| 20:12.50 | Mjelva | output was the same with an O, tho |
| 20:12.52 | Mjelva | as with a zero |
| 20:12.56 | Mjelva | :( |
| 20:13.06 | valdyn | Mjelva: hardly |
| 20:13.11 | theUg | Coweater: Do I go as: nano <filename>? |
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| 20:13.22 | Mjelva | valdyn - what do you mean? the output was the same... |
| 20:13.28 | valdyn | Mjelva: actually, nm, that might be as 0s are common just as os |
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| 20:13.31 | Coweater | theUg: man nano, do a bit of learning on your own |
| 20:14.03 | TML | Mjelva: Try lspci | grep -i agp |
| 20:14.08 | SerajewelKS | oh wow.. i just realized that in this font, 0 and O look *exactly* the same |
| 20:14.11 | Mjelva | valdyn - i just tried with a bunch of different letters instead of 0. output was the same. |
| 20:14.12 | valdyn | Mjelva: lspci | grep -i vga |
| 20:14.17 | theUg | Coweater: I have to do a lot, since I am a noob. :) Thanks though. |
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| 20:14.34 | Mjelva | valdyn - that returned one item |
| 20:14.42 | valdyn | Mjelva: paste it |
| 20:14.43 | TML | valdyn: vga will just tell you whether you have a vga controller... |
| 20:14.53 | valdyn | TML: and which one |
| 20:14.53 | TML | It could still be on PCI |
| 20:15.02 | valdyn | TML: he doesnt have AGP |
| 20:15.08 | TML | Oh, I thought you were trying to determine the presence of AGP |
| 20:15.10 | guru | does anyone here know how i can completely remove linux-wlan-ng from my system? there is no uninstall option provided by the makefile and i'd rather not do it by hand |
| 20:15.13 | TML | My mistake. :() |
| 20:15.17 | valdyn | TML: thats true, did that earlier. |
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| 20:15.56 | jdavis | TML: I have libc version 2.3.5-7 |
| 20:16.27 | valdyn | Mjelva: if you cant paste you should learn that first, cant help you w/o info that is better pasted |
| 20:16.29 | Mjelva | valdyn - 0000:00:02:0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GB&GMS&910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 20:16.33 | valdyn | Mjelva: ok! |
| 20:16.56 | TML | jdavis: And which version of oo.o are you using? |
| 20:17.18 | jdavis | TML: 2.0.0-2 |
| 20:17.59 | theUg | Coweater: apperently I don’t have nano, so I have to stick with VI. Thanks a lot though on command mode. Laters. |
| 20:18.06 | valdyn | Mjelva: really that isnt agp, im not sure to which extent you can play movies w/ a pci gfx card. |
| 20:18.17 | Mjelva | it played just fine when i ran windows |
| 20:18.20 | fbi | EHM. doesn't nano get installed with the base system? |
| 20:18.29 | jdavis | TML: if it matters, I was using the experimental openoffice.org2 packages before. They are removed, but perhaps they are still causing problems? |
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| 20:18.40 | valdyn | Mjelva: which driver did you pick when configuring X ? |
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| 20:19.00 | Mjelva | hm, i'm not quite sure. i think i picked the "safe" one. |
| 20:19.09 | ecliptik | are there any utilities on the Mac OSX disk or online that can do hardware tests on ibooks? |
| 20:19.15 | valdyn | Mjelva: what would that be? |
| 20:19.25 | Mjelva | wasn't named that, but i got some help here when i was setting it up, and they said my card was too new, and just to pick that one. |
| 20:19.27 | ecliptik | kinda like what dell has that test sound, video, keyboard, et |
| 20:19.40 | Mjelva | is there some way of checking, without running the config over again? |
| 20:19.53 | TML | jdavis: What about libc6-i686? |
| 20:20.09 | valdyn | Mjelva: grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf ( 2 items will obviously not be your gfx card ) |
| 20:20.38 | jdavis | TML: it's not installed, should I install it? |
| 20:20.42 | TML | jdavis: no |
| 20:20.56 | Mjelva | valdyn - no such file or dir |
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| 20:21.12 | valdyn | Mjelva: grep -i driver /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ( 2 items will obviously not be your gfx card ) |
| 20:21.19 | TML | jdavis: Looks like a real bug. File it. |
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| 20:21.30 | SerajewelKS | ecliptik: explain wtf that has to do with debian |
| 20:21.40 | valdyn | Mjelva: and give me the number sequence at the beginning of an lspci output line of any other random deivce please |
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| 20:21.46 | jdavis | TML: ok, at debian.org is there a form? |
| 20:21.53 | TML | jdavis: bugs.debian.org |
| 20:21.59 | Mjelva | valdyn - wot? |
| 20:22.04 | TML | jdavis: Or apt-get install reportbug |
| 20:22.10 | TML | And use the commandline tool |
| 20:22.32 | jdavis | TML: ok, thanks for the help |
| 20:22.55 | Mjelva | valdyn - oh, ok. well, the broadcom wireless card is 0000:06:05.0 |
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| 20:23.11 | TML | *blink* |
| 20:23.18 | Mjelva | and as for the driver, it's vesa. |
| 20:23.29 | TML | Why is your wireless card mentioned in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? |
| 20:23.30 | valdyn | Mjelva: vesa wont give you decent video output |
| 20:23.46 | Mjelva | TML - it's not. he asked me for a random address from lspci |
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| 20:23.59 | Mjelva | valdyn - that's what they said when i configured. what driver should i use? |
| 20:23.59 | TML | oh...missed that line. :) |
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| 20:24.42 | valdyn | Mjelva: something starting with 'i', there's probably 2 options, but i cant help you with those, i have nil experience w/ intel gfx interfaces |
| 20:25.03 | Mjelva | ok. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, isn't it? |
| 20:25.06 | theUg | How do you config xorg from text mode, if I don't have Xfree86? |
| 20:25.07 | TML | Probably the i810 for your i915 card |
| 20:25.11 | valdyn | Mjelva: right |
| 20:25.27 | TML | I had an i915 and i810 worked for it. YMMV. |
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| 20:26.00 | valdyn | is this possibly a PCIe notebook? |
| 20:26.08 | Mjelva | and now reboot? |
| 20:26.17 | valdyn | Mjelva: no, never reboot |
| 20:26.22 | valdyn | Mjelva: restart X |
| 20:26.25 | Mjelva | never reboot? |
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| 20:27.15 | TML | Almost never...you might want to reboot after upgrading your kernel |
| 20:27.17 | TML | And...he's gone |
| 20:27.19 | dhp | I try using ether=10,0xb800,eth0 as bootparam ... does not do anything, so that I try putting ether=10,0xb400,eth0 to see if eth0 becomes the NIC I want, and then, kernel complains: /dev/hda2 no such device -> cant mount root ... how is that possible wgen IDE0 is on IRQ 14, and mapped to 0x01f0 and 0xFF00 ? |
| 20:28.19 | dhp | valdyn: rebooting is a Microsoft habit. Computers do not like that at all. Especially, reboots damage SCSI drives a lot, P-IDE a bit ... I dont know yet about S-ATA |
| 20:28.49 | dhp | valdyn: reboots also affect power supply life time. |
| 20:29.33 | fbi | why are you telling him this when he's the one who said *not* to reboot? |
| 20:30.11 | websdale | I'm using etch & gnome - the sound via gnome isn't working altho' 'aplay file.wav' works fine - why is this? |
| 20:30.33 | valdyn | websdale: ls -l /dev/dsp |
| 20:30.48 | SerajewelKS | websdale: maybe because esd sucks balls |
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| 20:31.14 | dhp | fbi: because I am dumb and always quote the wrong nick. |
| 20:31.38 | websdale | SerajewelKS: you could be right valdyn : dsp is there |
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| 20:32.17 | valdyn | websdale: try running esdplay some.wav |
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| 20:34.03 | SerajewelKS | websdale: also make sure you have write perms to /dev/dsp |
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| 20:34.51 | websdale | valdyn: esdplay produces no response - no message no sound |
| 20:35.08 | valdyn | websdale: looks to me like you need to fix your volume settings |
| 20:35.13 | eeEE | is there such a thing as a loadable module firewall? |
| 20:35.27 | eeEE | i' |
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| 20:35.32 | valdyn | eeEE: is there ANY other firewall system that people use on linux? |
| 20:35.40 | blockd | websdale: are you use esd is configured to use alsa (not oss) or something? |
| 20:35.40 | websdale | valdyn: of what? aplay produces output no problem |
| 20:35.45 | Mjelva | thanks a lot. i think that fixed it. |
| 20:35.50 | blockd | s/use/sure/ |
| 20:35.52 | Mjelva | valdyn - thanks |
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| 20:36.07 | eeEE | my kernel is not compiled for ipchains |
| 20:36.10 | valdyn | websdale: /dev/dsp doesnt not necessarily access the same sound channel as aplay |
| 20:36.24 | valdyn | !ipchains |
| 20:36.24 | dpkg | somebody said ipchains was a rewrite of the Linux IPv4 firewalling code (which was mainly borrowed from BSD) and a rewrite of ipfwadm, which was a rewrite of BSD's ipfw, I believe. It is required to administer the IP packet filters in Linux kernel versions 2.1.102 and above. or Which is surpassed in kernel 2.3 (and 2.4 when released) by netfilter, which you can get and compile at netfilter.kernelnotes.org, or a regular in the channel |
| 20:36.28 | Mjelva | xine-check still says there's no MTRR support in kernel, and that my XServer lacks YV12 and Xvideo support, tho. but to the best of my knowledge, i run the latest versions. |
| 20:36.45 | valdyn | eeEE: ipchains? where? thats an obsolete system |
| 20:36.56 | blockd | eeEE: check if you have the command iptables |
| 20:37.05 | websdale | blockd: the thing is it all worked until recently - a few days maybe something must have changed |
| 20:37.31 | dhp | how can I 'rename' eth1 to eth0 ? |
| 20:37.47 | SerajewelKS | dhp: why the hell would you want to do that |
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| 20:37.53 | valdyn | dhp: you could just put the drivers into /etc/modules in order |
| 20:37.55 | eeEE | ah, yes, i do have iptables |
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| 20:38.51 | dhp | SerajewelKS: in order not to have to alter /etc/network/interface each time I reboot, remove PCMCIA card, or decide to switch cards on my mother board. |
| 20:39.05 | bbrazil | dhp: ifrename |
| 20:39.12 | dhp | valdyn: I only have 3c905 cards at home ... usually 2 to 5 per computer. |
| 20:39.39 | Silent_al | which desktops will allow me to change gamma using xgamma? (except Gnome, KDE & XFCE4, xgamma changes didnt work with Fluxbox) |
| 20:39.46 | xelam | you have 2 to 5 NICs per computer? are you allergic to switches? :S |
| 20:39.50 | blockd | eeEE: should read up on netfilter though.. some gotchas if you're only familiar with ipchains |
| 20:40.03 | eeEE | blockd: cool, thanks |
| 20:40.29 | valdyn | Silent_al: why the hell would a window manager have influence on xgamma? |
| 20:40.37 | m0se5 | xelam: actually switches are a bottleneck to networks. |
| 20:40.53 | xelam | m0se5: they're also pretty necessary :P |
| 20:41.12 | antgel | dhp: why do you need to do that? |
| 20:41.17 | xelam | (or would you rather use a nice old hub?) |
| 20:41.21 | Silent_al | umm, i know xgamma makes gamma correction in the X server itself , am i right? |
| 20:41.22 | m0se5 | xelam: how so? |
| 20:41.33 | dhp | bbrazil: why not use ether= kernel argument ? see my very first line 14 mn ago |
| 20:41.36 | valdyn | Mjelva: you cannot "just" access xvideo as a user |
| 20:41.42 | xelam | how are you going to link > 2 computers together otherwise? |
| 20:41.58 | m0se5 | xelam: crossover cable |
| 20:42.10 | valdyn | Mjelva: use sudo or sux to become root in your X session, if you have Xvideo then, then its just a perission issue |
| 20:42.11 | antgel | m0se5: not for > 2 |
| 20:42.13 | xelam | m0se5: more than 2 computers? |
| 20:42.23 | dhp | antgel: some times I need to remove some NICs in my bare bones in onrder to make room for sounds, TV, or Modem cards. |
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| 20:42.37 | antgel | dhp: so? |
| 20:42.38 | m0se5 | xelam: yes. I got that. I forgot me s in crossover cables |
| 20:42.43 | Teetee | Hi |
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| 20:43.13 | Teetee | any one have pics |
| 20:43.17 | valdyn | Mjelva: test again if your XF86Config-4 really uses the i810 driver now, if it does not, /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 20:43.27 | SimonRaven | Teetee: images.google.com |
| 20:43.35 | xelam | m0se5: yeah, it's really efficient to route every other connection instead of using a switch |
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| 20:44.19 | dhp | antgel: so ... every single time I remove additional cards, internal one fall from eth1 to eth0, what force me eddinting /etc manually every day => I want to force internal to be eth0 ! |
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| 20:44.49 | Silent_al | valdyn , for example,i've tried to make gamma corecctions with xgamma in DSL , and it didnt work |
| 20:44.52 | antgel | dhp: may i suggest that you don't add and remove pci cards every day? |
| 20:44.54 | m0se5 | xelam: for speed, yes it is. Switches are a bottleneck to networks. |
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| 20:45.09 | antgel | m0se5: you're having a laugh, right? |
| 20:45.10 | xelam | m0se5: sorry but that's BS |
| 20:45.13 | a1fa | yo.. when i sart debian install and dialog pops up.. the screen goes balistic? |
| 20:45.14 | xelam | complete BS |
| 20:45.21 | a1fa | refresh rate gets messed up.. |
| 20:45.28 | a1fa | how do you fix that? |
| 20:45.30 | Silent_al | ppl told it has something to do with the desktop im using |
| 20:45.38 | antgel | !ppl |
| 20:45.38 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
| 20:45.53 | Silent_al | ppl as poeple! |
| 20:46.00 | Silent_al | O_o |
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| 20:47.06 | dhp | antgel: no: I have 3 additional slots for 6 cards to be used very often ... I already need to reboot about hardware problems; I would like software issues to be automated a software way: use conf files to tell the kernel my internal nic shall always be called eth0 . thats all. |
| 20:47.24 | a1fa | Does anyone know how to fix flickering in debian install (once dialog popsup?) |
| 20:48.00 | Teetee | cutegirl looking for somrone............. just click on Teetee |
| 20:48.00 | antgel | dhp: no dice afaik |
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| 20:48.21 | antgel | i knew if i stayed here long enough a cute girl would turn up |
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| 20:48.42 | antgel | dhp: why not just not plug in another ethernet card? |
| 20:48.46 | loca|host | hello |
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| 20:48.49 | Teetee | click on me |
| 20:48.58 | loca|host | what are u using as a peer2peer client ? |
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| 20:49.03 | m0se5 | xelam: I'm serious. a switch routes packets. That means it reads the packet. a hub broadcasts it across the whole network. If you had a network card for every computer, it'd be much faster. you will need a switch/router/bridge for large networks. |
| 20:49.08 | antgel | !tell localhost about u |
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| 20:49.16 | antgel | !tell localabout polls |
| 20:49.20 | antgel | doh |
| 20:49.26 | antgel | i vlame vnc (again) |
| 20:50.05 | xelam | m0se5: that's very impractical |
| 20:50.13 | Teetee | click on my name |
| 20:50.17 | antgel | m0se5: great in theory. in practice who cares |
| 20:50.29 | xelam | Teetee: nothing happened |
| 20:50.29 | loca|host | antgel, polls ? |
| 20:50.32 | antgel | Teetee: please go away. you have 5 minutes. |
| 20:50.39 | antgel | !tell loca|host about polls |
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| 20:51.21 | twixter | I have a USB hard drive. During installation I partitioned my internal HD with swap, /boot and /sbin and the USB got /. Now when I boot I get: "/sbin/init.432: cannot open dev/console. No such file Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!" |
| 20:51.29 | dhp | antgel: adding a 4th NIC ? I only have 3 slots ! |
| 20:51.54 | Teetee | hi |
| 20:51.58 | antgel | dhp: you say the problem comes when you add another nic. so stop adding nics. |
| 20:52.01 | Teetee | im not gone |
| 20:52.06 | xelam | Teetee: go then |
| 20:52.09 | xelam | quick! |
| 20:52.10 | xelam | run! |
| 20:52.22 | Teetee | im not gone |
| 20:52.26 | Tortel | !run |
| 20:52.44 | m0se5 | xelam: I I just thought you'd like to know that a switch slows down a network. it's true. |
| 20:53.06 | antgel | m0se5: still waiting to hear who cares in practice |
| 20:53.10 | xelam | sure it'll be faster than a direct connection |
| 20:53.12 | Teetee | im not leveing............................ just telling you |
| 20:53.18 | xelam | but they are NEEDED for a network. |
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| 20:53.22 | antgel | !ops Teetee is not leaving |
| 20:53.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Teetee is not leaving |
| 20:53.34 | SimonRaven | Teetee: what are you smoking? |
| 20:53.51 | blockd | twixter: what's your /etc/fstab look like? |
| 20:53.59 | Teetee | I dony smok |
| 20:54.08 | xelam | you dony smok? |
| 20:54.10 | xelam | but do you smoke? |
| 20:54.19 | antgel | twixter: perhaps your initrd doesn't contain the correct modules for a usb boot |
| 20:54.20 | twixter | i haven't been able to access fstab, debian hasnt booted yet with the above described partition |
| 20:54.31 | blockd | try a rescue CD and mount it |
| 20:54.34 | cahoot | xelam: what's the use - try /ignore instead |
| 20:54.45 | Mjelva | valdyn - what was the command to check XF86Config-4 again? |
| 20:54.54 | xelam | cahoot: I'm bored |
| 20:54.55 | twixter | i know i can install and boot debian if i put / on the internal HD |
| 20:54.58 | dhp | antgel: then, offer me a barebone with included: 3 NIC, 2 wireless, TV, modem, sounds, 4 IDE chains, 2 SCSI 15 devices on mini-tx mb, then I dont need to ever add daughter cards on my bare-bone. |
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| 20:55.21 | SimonRaven | wtf is a bare-bone |
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| 20:55.26 | antgel | dhp: no. perhaps you need to revisit your infrastructure. |
| 20:55.28 | blockd | twixter: I'm just first trying to eliminate the obvious by seeing if your USB HDD actually is getting mounted as / |
| 20:55.37 | Silent_al | !define bare bone |
| 20:55.55 | antgel | i think it's having sex without a condom |
| 20:55.59 | twixter | "mount it" you mean mount the usb as / ? |
| 20:56.04 | blockd | yes |
| 20:56.06 | SimonRaven | and like, spread that around a bit... |
| 20:56.22 | SimonRaven | antgel: *groan* |
| 20:56.22 | dhp | antgel: yes ... I need a Sun laptop ... but it costs about 1 year of salary ... |
| 20:56.24 | a1fa | hehe |
| 20:56.25 | antgel | twixter: your initrd doesn't contain the correct modules to boot from the usb device (probably) |
| 20:56.30 | a1fa | having sex w/o condom > * |
| 20:56.44 | blockd | another problem could be it can't get hotplugged until later... |
| 20:56.53 | antgel | SimonRaven: it's the way i tell them |
| 20:56.54 | blockd | or recognized I mean.. |
| 20:56.56 | twixter | well shouldnt Sarge have installed those modules? |
| 20:57.13 | row | when you install firefox with apt, it sets the filename extension->application to some system wide config, where would I find this config to alter the defaults for this? |
| 20:57.18 | twixter | anyway i put /boot in the internal HD |
| 20:57.35 | dhp | antgel: those dual CPU with free hotplug PCI64 connectors + raid SCSI capable laptops are wonderfull for my needs, but not affordable. |
| 20:58.00 | antgel | dhp: ah, then you need to revisit your expectations in accordance with your budget :) |
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| 20:58.17 | twixter | okay thanks for your help |
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| 20:59.00 | dhp | antgel: or just use netdev= option described in usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt as proposed on #gentoo ... file that explains that netdev= now obsoletes ether= |
| 20:59.12 | Silent_al | !define xorg |
| 20:59.20 | Silent_al | =\ |
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| 20:59.32 | Silent_al | !help |
| 20:59.40 | dhp | Silent_al: try again, I ll support you :D |
| 20:59.44 | Gnea | !xorg |
| 20:59.44 | dpkg | xorg is probably X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R6.8.2. ask me about <get xorg> |
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| 20:59.50 | antgel | Silent_al: where do you want to go today? |
| 21:00.04 | Silent_al | lol |
| 21:00.12 | antgel | dhp: are you using gentoo? |
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| 21:00.17 | antgel | !tell Silent_al about lol |
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| 21:00.53 | djtravtrav | what is the linux google search? |
| 21:01.02 | steve_ | www.google.com/linux |
| 21:01.03 | steve_ | I think |
| 21:01.12 | Silent_al | antgel hehe |
| 21:01.22 | cahoot | antgel: care to explain why ':)' is accepted but not 'lol' ? |
| 21:01.42 | antgel | cahoot: no |
| 21:01.44 | mlewis00 | Does anyone have the bootlogd working on Sarge with kernel 2.6.8-2-686? I thought I had it working but it failed with error on the next boot (BOOTLOGD: (/dev/ttyzf, TIOCCONS): Bad file descriptor). |
| 21:01.56 | Silent_al | !tell cahoot about lol |
| 21:01.59 | Silent_al | :P |
| 21:02.03 | xelam | nothing wrong with lol :| |
| 21:02.05 | djtravtrav | thx |
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| 21:02.38 | antgel | mlewis00: ls /dev/ttyzf? |
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| 21:03.05 | dhp | antgel: yes ... but kernel arguments are the same for all distros, and actually my gentoo kernel does not boot at all, so that for tonight, I want to solve that NIC issue on Debian ... which is the only system that can boot my box atm. |
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| 21:03.15 | SteveKerr | anyone know of a package i can use to convert wma files to mp3/ogg? |
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| 21:03.33 | antgel | dhp: so that parameter does what you want? |
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| 21:04.13 | Teetee | im here |
| 21:04.21 | streuner | SteveKerr: not with losing quality |
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| 21:04.40 | Teetee | Im here |
| 21:04.47 | dhp | antgel: I tell you that after coming reboot. cu. |
| 21:04.47 | steve_ | SteveKerr, there may also be legal issues due to DRM |
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| 21:05.03 | bucky | Teetee, in washington? |
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| 21:05.41 | mlewis00 | antgel: That won't work right now because /dev/ttyzf is a pty that the bootlogd allocates during boot...it won't be there now. I need to find out why it fails during boot - i.e. something to do with the kernel and udev or something? |
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| 21:06.12 | SimonRaven | thank you |
| 21:06.19 | bboett | hello! again a problem: my logitech MX mouse has lost its ability of the 3rd button after the reinstall... xev shows indeed no event when pressing the middle button.... any hint on what might go wrong? xorg.conf is the same as before, so isuppose it has to do with udev or discover? |
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| 21:06.47 | Khiraly | er |
| 21:06.56 | SerajewelKS | bboett: what happens when you press both buttons at the same time |
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| 21:07.09 | bboett | i get the paste... |
| 21:07.10 | Khiraly | Can somebody help me build ndiswrapper for a custom kernel package |
| 21:07.11 | Khiraly | ? |
| 21:07.17 | antgel | mlewis00: i thought udev. you could create a bootscript to ls /dev and save it in a file for your perusal |
| 21:07.20 | vhuren | could someone tell me whats the upper file limit of ext3? like how many files can you have in 1 directory before it starts getting corrupted |
| 21:07.31 | streuner | dondelelcaro: do you think its adequate to ban somebody only for using 2 times 'iam here' ? |
| 21:07.35 | bucky | bboett, try /msg dpkg drx |
| 21:07.37 | m0rbid | Whats the package to install to get rid of the WARNING: authentication error during apt-get installs? |
| 21:07.43 | dondelelcaro | streuner: use /lastlog already. |
| 21:08.16 | bboett | allready done bucky .... |
| 21:08.28 | antgel | m0rbid: /topic |
| 21:08.42 | m0rbid | im reading it, |
| 21:08.53 | bucky | bboett, so did you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 like dpkg said? |
| 21:09.38 | bboett | i am using xorg.... and i went over trying to get over that step several times... |
| 21:10.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 726] by debhelper |
| 21:10.27 | bucky | bboett, then you either didn't choose the right mouse protocol or you didn't enable scrolling events or you didn't emulate three buttons |
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| 21:10.50 | mlewis00 | antgel: I don't know...I just know that the bootlogd allocates a pseudo tty during startup so that it can redirect console messages to it...it works on Sarge with a 2.4 kernel and devfs but I need to know if anyone has it working on Sarge with a 2.6 kernel. |
| 21:11.11 | bboett | bucky, i don't want to emulate 3 buttons since i have 3.... |
| 21:11.42 | bucky | bboett, then you probably want IMPS/2 for the protocol |
| 21:11.46 | bboett | and the rest of the mouse behaves correctly, besides before reinstallation i was allready using the imps/2 driver |
| 21:11.57 | bboett | allready using it... |
| 21:12.17 | bucky | bboett, which version of debian are you using |
| 21:12.33 | a1fa | ok |
| 21:12.35 | a1fa | i am bakc |
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| 21:12.46 | blockd | bboett: what does it actually say in your mouse's "InputDevice" section? |
| 21:12.50 | a1fa | ~grub |
| 21:12.51 | apt | from memory, grub is Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed ... |
| 21:12.58 | a1fa | i hate grub.. doesnt lilo support more than 20 gb hd? |
| 21:13.03 | a1fa | lba32 needs to be enabled? |
| 21:13.04 | bucky | he's not using debian |
| 21:13.14 | streuner | a1fa: that's not a lilo problem... |
| 21:13.36 | bboett | bucky, unstable |
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| 21:14.02 | a1fa | streuner: what problem is it |
| 21:14.02 | a1fa | ? |
| 21:14.15 | streuner | a1fa: we need more infos about |
| 21:14.27 | a1fa | i i dont know |
| 21:14.33 | a1fa | it was under debian install |
| 21:14.37 | a1fa | i didnt cetch the error |
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| 21:14.40 | a1fa | just a fancy msg |
| 21:14.46 | a1fa | lilo returned status =1 |
| 21:16.02 | bboett | blockd, http://pastebot.nd.edu/283 |
| 21:16.18 | a1fa | i dont like grub |
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| 21:16.38 | fbi | then don't use it. |
| 21:16.40 | streuner | a1fa: you got this error with d-i? |
| 21:16.41 | a1fa | bcos i dont know how to use it |
| 21:16.46 | a1fa | streuner: yeah |
| 21:17.01 | streuner | a1fa: in which stage? |
| 21:17.19 | a1fa | Install boot loader |
| 21:17.27 | blockd | bboett: it looks all right... yours is just a USB wheel mouse? |
| 21:17.31 | bucky | bboett, you prolly want "/dev/psaux" |
| 21:17.36 | bboett | yup blockd |
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| 21:17.59 | streuner | a1fa: what kind of system do you have? |
| 21:18.03 | bboett | well i can try bucky .... |
| 21:18.04 | a1fa | 80 gb ide |
| 21:18.05 | bucky | if it's pluged into a ps2 jack on the back of your computer |
| 21:18.07 | a1fa | athlon |
| 21:18.09 | douglas | i really hate to ask this, but can wine handle the aol client? trying to convert my momma to debian |
| 21:18.11 | a1fa | it has nothing to do with the system |
| 21:18.14 | a1fa | ~mythtv |
| 21:18.18 | streuner | a1fa: SCSI, RAID ? |
| 21:18.23 | a1fa | IDE ATA |
| 21:18.27 | bboett | is it possible to start a second Xserver? would allow to test the new config... |
| 21:18.31 | bucky | bboett, us dpkg-reconfigure to change it |
| 21:18.42 | douglas | bboett: at least with vnc |
| 21:18.46 | bboett | uhm why bucky ? makes sense only if it works, no? |
| 21:18.51 | douglas | if you're down with the remote thang |
| 21:19.01 | bucky | bboett, try to find out why /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 21:19.16 | bucky | bboett, if you edit it by hand |
| 21:19.34 | blockd | bboett: what's in the ServerLayout section? |
| 21:19.52 | antgel | douglas: use gaim |
| 21:19.57 | blockd | though I'm pretty sure that'll be fine... |
| 21:20.01 | bboett | bucky, seems no problem with xorg... reocnfigure simply overwrites my actual conf |
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| 21:20.18 | fbi | you don't need to worry about the xmd5 when using xorg |
| 21:20.19 | bucky | bboett, my mouse works fine |
| 21:20.24 | streuner | a1fa: can you show us the error? |
| 21:20.25 | douglas | antgel: and get her hooked on aol's webmail? she wants to keep her address |
| 21:20.26 | fbi | only with xfree86 |
| 21:20.33 | bucky | problem.... no problem |
| 21:20.40 | a1fa | in a minute |
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| 21:21.11 | bboett | blockd, nothing much, looks ok: http://pastebot.nd.edu/284 |
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| 21:21.16 | antgel | douglas: i have no idea what you mean. i know gaim supports aol messenging. it may support email notification if that's what you mean |
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| 21:21.31 | Silent_al | hi again :) i changed the gamma values using xgamma , restarted X , but bightness stays the same =\ |
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| 21:21.44 | Silent_al | could it be due to hardware limitations? |
| 21:21.58 | a1fa | this is the new error |
| 21:21.58 | a1fa | Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. |
| 21:21.58 | a1fa | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.58 | a1fa | Fatal: APPEND or LITERAL may not contain "vga=" |
| 21:21.58 | blockd | bboett: yes you can run more than one xserver |
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| 21:22.00 | Silent_al | brightness* |
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| 21:22.05 | a1fa | :( |
| 21:22.08 | bboett | how blockd ? |
| 21:22.10 | a1fa | grr.. sorry for the paste |
| 21:22.13 | samuel | sup all, ive got a bluetooth connected dongle and its working fine, ive been trying to get BT PAN working on it, but i cant bring up bnep0? how do i make bnep0? |
| 21:22.15 | a1fa | i didnt think it was that big |
| 21:22.28 | samuel | sorry, got disconnected so i dont know if anyone read that |
| 21:22.32 | douglas | not just email notification, but an aol client and not their website so she can still have the feel of what she's used to .. wanted to know if wine could do that and if so i'm gonna partition that sucker |
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| 21:23.08 | antgel | douglas: my gut feeling is that expecting aol integration in linux is a tall order |
| 21:23.13 | antgel | thankfully ;) |
| 21:23.23 | fbi | You've got mail! |
| 21:23.32 | streuner | a1fa: ok, what does 'fdisk -l' say? (use the paster-bot) |
| 21:23.33 | douglas | i figured.. i'll just have to ween her off of it |
| 21:23.34 | streuner | !paste |
| 21:23.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 21:23.37 | a1fa | its working now |
| 21:23.41 | a1fa | i added lba32 |
| 21:23.41 | antgel | douglas: can't she login to their website to read mail? |
| 21:23.42 | a1fa | ~lba32 |
| 21:23.48 | a1fa | and i removed append |
| 21:23.51 | douglas | she doesn't like change. |
| 21:24.04 | antgel | douglas: then don't give her linux :) |
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| 21:24.26 | hawking | any scilab users around? |
| 21:24.29 | douglas | +1, insightful, antgel |
| 21:25.01 | Philo | is there anybody who can help me with a mysterious KDE-Problem??? |
| 21:25.16 | bucky | apt-get install gnome |
| 21:25.22 | douglas | heh buck |
| 21:25.23 | a1fa | but anyway |
| 21:25.25 | bboett | ok, can't find how to start a second X server.... stopping this one... |
| 21:25.25 | antgel | Philo: not while it remains mysterious |
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| 21:25.27 | a1fa | ~mythtv |
| 21:25.33 | a1fa | anybody running mythtv on stable? |
| 21:25.34 | lnx32 | Hi all, sorry about this being in the debian channel, I'm a debian user but I run Windows XP on the concerned computer. Windows appears to be assigning it's "169.x.x.x" address over DHCP where the DHCP server is on my D-Link router, and I'm a tad confused as to why it's doing this. I THINK this address is the one Windows uses when it cant connect to the DHCP server. It suggests to me that it cannot find the DHCP serve |
| 21:25.34 | lnx32 | r, but my other 3 computers can. ANyone have any idea? |
| 21:25.39 | douglas | bboett vncserver does this |
| 21:25.44 | nnacht | anyone here using LVM? |
| 21:25.48 | streuner | a1fa: use /msg dpkg, apt foo instead |
| 21:25.48 | blockd | bboett: "X :0.1" on the console (not in X) |
| 21:25.50 | douglas | unless i don't know anything |
| 21:26.00 | blockd | you can then use ctrl+alt+F7 or F8 to switch back and forth |
| 21:26.04 | bboett | ok trying |
| 21:26.10 | blockd | of couse you won't have a WM... |
| 21:26.10 | Philo | apt-get uninstalled my kate (i'm still using openbox) and now it says it isn't allowed to reinstall it... |
| 21:26.11 | blockd | *course |
| 21:26.11 | jdhutchin1 | lnx32, for some reason, windows hasn't gotten an IP from the dlink, so it makes up its own |
| 21:26.12 | Eulex | lnx32, wrong channel. |
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| 21:26.27 | jdhutchin1 | lnx32, and yes, if you want to know more, go to #networking |
| 21:26.36 | lnx32 | Eulex, I realize, but the Windows guys didnt know anything |
| 21:26.39 | antgel | lnx32: this is #debian. i imagine windows support would entail a reboot, followed by a reinstall, followed by a purchase or ridiculously overpowered hardware |
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| 21:26.45 | douglas | when i try to apt remove exix, apt wants to take a zillion things with it including mysql -- any way around this? |
| 21:26.49 | blockd | bboett: that alone won't be enough to figure out if your wheel is working... |
| 21:26.50 | lnx32 | jdhutchin1, thanks, I will |
| 21:26.51 | bucky | lnx32, that's the default subnet windows addresses to when it hasn't networking hasn't been set up... /join #windows |
| 21:26.52 | douglas | s/exix/exim |
| 21:26.52 | cheal | Philo: what's the error message |
| 21:27.08 | antgel | douglas: yes, run aptitude interactively |
| 21:27.11 | Philo | Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfüllte Abhängigkeiten: |
| 21:27.11 | Philo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.11 | Philo | E: Kaputte Pakete |
| 21:27.24 | streuner | Philo: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 21:27.35 | cheal | Philo: in english please |
| 21:27.39 | jdhutchin1 | !de |
| 21:27.39 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 21:27.40 | douglas | aptitude? ... doesn't that take, how you say, a GUI environment? |
| 21:27.41 | lnx32 | bucky, that's strange, because it was fine one minute and dead the next. Again, I apologise to all for the off-topic, but I couldnt get an answer in #windows |
| 21:28.05 | a1fa | anybody know if mythtv will run on stable tree? |
| 21:28.09 | dondelelcaro | Philo: LANG=C foocmd; will give us the messages in the proper locale so we can actually read them. |
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| 21:28.25 | dondelelcaro | a1fa: I thought mdz had a package for stable; you can backport it if not. |
| 21:28.33 | streuner | broken package... |
| 21:28.34 | a1fa | aight |
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| 21:28.43 | a1fa | streuner: it is broken ? |
| 21:28.45 | Philo | ii libc6 2.3.5-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 21:28.45 | Philo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.50 | antgel | douglas: no |
| 21:28.56 | blockd | bboett: you can still get a WM on the other Xserver, just don't ask me how right now :-) |
| 21:29.02 | douglas | streuner and donde in the house |
| 21:29.13 | Eulex | douglas, gui == *graphical* user interface |
| 21:29.19 | douglas | antgel: oh? all right rock on |
| 21:29.19 | bboett | hmmm with the X server alone i can't test more thant the movements of the mouse.... |
| 21:29.31 | bboett | tryed to cast to it an xterm without success... |
| 21:29.32 | streuner | Philo: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 21:29.51 | blockd | bboett: you need to also start a WM |
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| 21:30.07 | bboett | and blockd the wheel works perfectly well... its clicking on it that doesn't work... |
| 21:30.08 | Eulex | bboett, tried running DISPLAY=whatever xterm? |
| 21:30.15 | bboett | yup Eulex |
| 21:30.26 | blockd | Eulex: yep, that should work... |
| 21:30.32 | bboett | ah i can try to start also a sawfish.... |
| 21:30.38 | Philo | ??? |
| 21:30.51 | blockd | sawfish is the gnome WM |
| 21:30.59 | streuner | Philo: check out BTS for kate (package) |
| 21:31.03 | blockd | I believe... if that's what the ??? was about... |
| 21:31.03 | dondelelcaro | Philo: you're using unstable, and kate is involved in the QT/KDE transition; either rebuild packages, or do something else. |
| 21:31.07 | douglas | i have a motherboard that wants you to install a cd (windows)... without it, it plays one channel audio out of the mic jack. Any solutions? buy new card? |
| 21:31.23 | streuner | heh |
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| 21:31.31 | streuner | !info kate testing |
| 21:31.31 | bucky | douglas, what! |
| 21:31.34 | dpkg | kate: (advanced text editor for KDE), section editors, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-4 (etch), Packaged size: 613 kB, Installed size: 1733 kB |
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| 21:31.38 | douglas | yeah i ain't jiving neither |
| 21:31.46 | bboett | nope.... doesn't work... |
| 21:31.47 | Silent_al | can i use xgamma with Xorg? |
| 21:32.09 | douglas | took me months to discover it was playing out of the mic jack |
| 21:32.17 | douglas | embedded audio |
| 21:32.20 | bboett | ok.... cycling the X server.... |
| 21:32.30 | hebfftijd | where can set my clock manual in debian |
| 21:32.36 | dondelelcaro | !set the time |
| 21:32.36 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 21:32.37 | streuner | man date |
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| 21:33.01 | douglas | hebfftijd: get that time sync program that logs into other servers.. forgot what it's called though |
| 21:33.03 | Philo | so there is no chance to get my kate back - still using apt-get? |
| 21:33.06 | douglas | it's badass, i can tell you that |
| 21:33.39 | cheal | Philo: just answer the question, show the error in english |
| 21:33.42 | hebfftijd | douglas, ntpd gives me a error time correction of -3630 seconds exceeds sani |
| 21:33.42 | hebfftijd | ty limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC tim |
| 21:33.47 | dondelelcaro | Philo: set LANG=C; and give us the complete output of whatever apt-get command you're running and the apt-cache policy output for the packages in question. Use the paster bot to do this. |
| 21:33.55 | Eulex | douglas, google for others with the same experiences and the same card. |
| 21:33.59 | dondelelcaro | hebfftijd: that's why you use ntpdate. |
| 21:34.04 | Philo | oh - sorry - one moment, pleasse |
| 21:34.21 | Silent_al | !xgamma |
| 21:34.23 | douglas | Eulex: good idea, will do.. just worried that people who use linux would know not to buy something like this |
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| 21:34.40 | bboett | back..... |
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| 21:34.44 | bboett | and no change.... |
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| 21:35.07 | bucky | bboett, did you change Device to "/dev/psaux" with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 21:35.09 | bboett | oh.... discovered that button 2 is mapped onto the down button under the thump..... |
| 21:35.12 | Philo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 21:35.13 | Philo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.13 | Philo | E: Broken packages |
| 21:35.14 | bboett | yep bucky |
| 21:35.20 | a1fa | streuner: you said mythtv package is broken? |
| 21:35.28 | bucky | bboett, how many buttons do you have? |
| 21:35.29 | Khiraly | can somebody help me to build ndiswrapper package for my newly builded custom kernel? |
| 21:35.33 | streuner | a1fa: no, that was for Philo |
| 21:35.33 | skel_home | FYI, worldcommunitygrid has a linux client now using BOINC from berkley =] |
| 21:35.36 | a1fa | ah |
| 21:35.42 | cheal | Philo: what does $ dpkg -l kdelibs4c2|grep ii; return? |
| 21:35.43 | bboett | well quite a lot bucky ..... |
| 21:35.43 | antgel | Khiraly: can you tell us what the problem is? |
| 21:35.55 | dondelelcaro | Philo: use the paster bot; don't paste it here. And give us the apt-cache policy output for all of those packages. |
| 21:35.56 | hebfftijd | thx douglas time is back to normal without probs |
| 21:36.01 | bboett | if i count them all i have 12 buttons... |
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| 21:36.17 | bboett | counting the wheel as 2... |
| 21:36.20 | bucky | that's funny |
| 21:36.21 | antgel | did we see Philo's sources.list? |
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| 21:36.25 | Philo | No packages found matching kdelibs4c2. |
| 21:36.30 | Khiraly | antgel: ofcours. I have created a new kernel package (with make-kpkg), and I want to build an appropriate ndiswarepper package for it |
| 21:36.41 | streuner | Philo: paste the sources.list too |
| 21:37.03 | Eulex | douglas, may also be worth trying both alsa and oss to see if one of them does it better. |
| 21:37.04 | cheal | Philo: you need to update to KDE 3.4. |
| 21:37.04 | Khiraly | And I dont know how can I do it |
| 21:37.06 | dondelelcaro | |rebo: please don't solicit for projects here. |
| 21:37.27 | |rebo | okay |
| 21:37.29 | |rebo | no problem |
| 21:37.29 | |rebo | sorry |
| 21:37.36 | douglas | oss rules :) |
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| 21:38.07 | Philo | i don't have any kde installed on my machine because every kind of kde-package displays me the same error |
| 21:38.28 | streuner | Philo: just do what we told you |
| 21:38.41 | dondelelcaro | Philo: again; give us the apt-cache policy output using the paster bot for each of those packages. You appear to be running some strange combination of multiple distributions |
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| 21:38.48 | antgel | Philo: sources.list please |
| 21:38.54 | Philo | my sources.lis: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main |
| 21:38.55 | Philo | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main |
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| 21:39.29 | _Tufe_ | somebody help me of zope plone? |
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| 21:39.48 | dondelelcaro | !tell _Tufe_ -about ask |
| 21:39.53 | antgel | _Tufe_: ask a question. and #plone may be preferable |
| 21:40.01 | ke6isf | !plone |
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| 21:40.09 | a1fa | kernel-image |
| 21:40.13 | a1fa | doesnt come with modules, right? |
| 21:40.24 | antgel | a1fa: wrong |
| 21:40.45 | Eulex | I pinned it down to being that libstdc++6 4.0.2-3 wasn't in testing yet |
| 21:40.49 | a1fa | antgel: yeah.. how do i chose lilo as default boot manager |
| 21:40.54 | a1fa | everytime i apt-get a kernel |
| 21:41.02 | a1fa | it updates using grub |
| 21:41.04 | a1fa | its annoying |
| 21:41.22 | antgel | a1fa: uninstall grub. but anyway, grub is better |
| 21:41.29 | antgel | !tell a1fa about enter |
| 21:41.35 | cheal | Philo: try installing kdebase |
| 21:42.05 | douglas | beware of webmin ... especially when using it for critical OS stuff and kernel tinkering. Unless you get pleasure from all-nighter debian reinstalls |
| 21:42.10 | a1fa | why is grub better? |
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| 21:42.18 | Eulex | hmm, sorry, problem above applied to k3b, not kde stuff in general... |
| 21:42.21 | Gnea | heh |
| 21:42.26 | antgel | a1fa: look at the grub webpage |
| 21:42.26 | Gnea | douglas: works fine here |
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| 21:42.43 | streuner | Philo: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 21:43.00 | douglas | well based on my anecdotal evidence of my own experience, you have 100% odds of getting all screwed up |
| 21:43.01 | yawj4217 | de onde tc? |
| 21:43.02 | Philo | kdebase seems good |
| 21:43.20 | bboett | a1fa, there are lots of reasons a1fa beston one is that grub gives you a sort of shell.... other one you don't need to reinstall your MBR each time you add a kernel... |
| 21:43.26 | Philo | Linux version 2.6.11.7 (root@debian) (gcc-Version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #4 Thu Jun 2 18:52:14 CEST 2005 |
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| 21:43.48 | Gnea | douglas: it seems the transitional phase between admining a windows pc and a linux pc generates a large learning curve at webmin |
| 21:43.49 | streuner | Philo: did you use 'apt-get update' before you switch to testing? |
| 21:43.57 | a1fa | nah |
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| 21:44.03 | a1fa | i like the good ol lilo.conf |
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| 21:44.10 | Philo | yes |
| 21:44.10 | a1fa | i guess i am anal when it comes to that |
| 21:44.15 | douglas | touche, gnea |
| 21:44.15 | a1fa | bit conservative, if i may add |
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| 21:44.24 | a1fa | Not touching initrd symlinks since we are being reinstalled (2.6.8-16) |
| 21:44.33 | a1fa | how do i tell it to re-establish symlinks |
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| 21:44.43 | a1fa | i dont want to do it manually |
| 21:44.49 | Khiraly | antgel: the problem, is that, I dont have kernel-headers-$(uname -r) package |
| 21:44.52 | bboett | well once you come across some machines that can't be booted with lilo you will maybe change opinion a1fa |
| 21:44.57 | cheal | Philo: if kdebase is installed, then you have several kde packages on your machine |
| 21:45.00 | Eulex | !br yawj4217 |
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| 21:45.05 | antgel | a1fa: um, actually if you were anal, you would go to the bother of checking out grub, noting that it's better, and ditching lilo |
| 21:45.05 | douglas | a1fa: write a script then, that way all you'll have to do is run the script |
| 21:45.07 | Gnea | douglas: webmin isn't a hardcore administrative tool - it can do basic tasks just fine but it will never, EVER replace the command line. period. |
| 21:45.12 | douglas | well, after you chmod it +x that is |
| 21:45.17 | Eulex | hmm |
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| 21:45.22 | Eulex | !tell yawj4217 about br |
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| 21:45.37 | douglas | gnea i was just venting in the form of stupid remarks |
| 21:45.48 | antgel | Khiraly: so install it. is ndiswrapper not just a debian package that you can install? |
| 21:45.51 | Philo | its interesting - this morning i tried to install kdebase, too, but there was the same error... but now it seems to work |
| 21:45.52 | Gnea | douglas: i know :) |
| 21:46.00 | douglas | thought so, shouldn't have said that |
| 21:46.13 | antgel | Philo: are you new to debian, if so /msg dpkg releases |
| 21:46.14 | douglas | we had a good thing going and i killed it... like a hitler/nazi comparrison |
| 21:46.21 | Gnea | well there's been a lot of negativity surrounding webmin lately |
| 21:46.28 | Silent_al | xgamma returns to its defaults everytime i restart x for changes to take affects . so my screen is still very dark , any way to make it brighter? (using Xorg) |
| 21:46.29 | Khiraly | antgel: I have builded a custom kernel (from source) So All I have is a kernel-image-2.6.14p1 package |
| 21:46.31 | Gnea | i figured i would try to help clear up some of the confusion |
| 21:46.50 | Gnea | douglas: don't even go there, please. |
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| 21:46.55 | Eulex | Silent_al, make it start every time you start X. |
| 21:47.07 | antgel | Khiraly: so you can't build ndiswrapper-source? |
| 21:47.14 | douglas | i was refering to godwin's law, .. but you already know that |
| 21:47.15 | Khiraly | antgel: there are ndiswrapper-modules-$(uname -r) |
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| 21:47.25 | streuner | Philo: what did you change then? |
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| 21:47.33 | Silent_al | Eulex , how? can u give me a lead? |
| 21:47.34 | Silent_al | :) |
| 21:48.06 | antgel | Khiraly: you mean ndiswrapper-modules-your custom kernel name? |
| 21:48.15 | Philo | yes - i just use it since Nov 2004 now - but there are several thing whiche are surprising me each day |
| 21:48.27 | Philo | thing=thinds |
| 21:48.30 | Philo | things |
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| 21:48.37 | antgel | Philo: that's not new. but if you use testing, you have to expect occasional breakage |
| 21:48.53 | Eulex | Silent_al, depends on how you start X. |
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| 21:49.13 | Silent_al | umm , manually, using 'startx' |
| 21:49.25 | Gnea | douglas: oh ok, makes perfect sense |
| 21:49.46 | douglas | only god and debian do that |
| 21:50.08 | spectral | why isn't php5-mysqli in debian (testing, or unstable)? any plans to get it in there? |
| 21:50.11 | Khiraly | antgel: the problem that ndiswrapper are builded always to the old kernel (2.4.27), and the new kernel image is 2.6.14 |
| 21:50.27 | Khiraly | And I cant specify how to compile againt the 2.6.14 kernel verison |
| 21:50.34 | douglas | all right enough's enough, I'm installing debian on momma's windows box |
| 21:50.36 | antgel | Khiraly: what? why don't you use the ndiswrapper-source package? |
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| 21:50.53 | Khiraly | (currently the machine is booted at the 2.4.27 kernel image) |
| 21:50.54 | douglas | and i'm giving her the most unstable version for good measure |
| 21:51.26 | twb | Any Lispniks about who can point me toward an example package using dh-lisp? |
| 21:51.27 | antgel | douglas: that will lead to tears |
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| 21:51.29 | Eulex | Silent_al, man startx and read about the files |
| 21:51.30 | Khiraly | antgel: how can I specify, that I want build against the 2.6.14 kernel version not the currently booted 2.4.27 version? |
| 21:51.38 | douglas | antgel: i got some heavy duty eyedrops |
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| 21:51.40 | Tufe_GUD-DF | somebody know zope? |
| 21:51.41 | Tufe_GUD-DF | please |
| 21:51.49 | Silent_al | ok, wiil do , thanx Eulex |
| 21:51.56 | antgel | Khiraly: for the umpteenth time, are you using the ndiswrapper-source package? |
| 21:52.04 | yawj4217 | hi! |
| 21:52.08 | antgel | !tell Tufe_GUD-DF about ask |
| 21:52.08 | Eulex | douglas, to make it resemble her old windows box as much as possible, right? :) |
| 21:52.12 | Tufe_GUD-DF | somebody brazil and latin america |
| 21:52.16 | Eulex | !br |
| 21:52.16 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 21:52.28 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: what country you from? |
| 21:52.29 | Philo | PERFECT JOB! It works!!! Thank you guys |
| 21:52.29 | a1fa | why isnt modconf part of base packages? |
| 21:52.32 | a1fa | that is bullcrap |
| 21:52.32 | douglas | Eulex: nah f that, she's going Debian cold turkey |
| 21:52.35 | douglas | no candy coating |
| 21:52.38 | dondelelcaro | a1fa: because it isn't base. |
| 21:52.43 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright Brzil |
| 21:52.49 | douglas | already got her on firefox, she loves it ... she's ready. |
| 21:53.14 | dondelelcaro | a1fa: it's definetly not essential, and all of its functions can be done using an editor and modprobe |
| 21:53.21 | antgel | douglas: if you are so concerned about her clue-ness, don't you think you should install debian stable? |
| 21:53.29 | Khiraly | antgel: I have downloaded the ndiswrapper source. But I can use the ndiswrapper-source too. I cant specify the kernelversion either |
| 21:53.33 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: I have a friend from Brazil, he is an actor there. He was in the channel 5 commercial with Nicole Kidman |
| 21:53.39 | yawj4217 | bye> |
| 21:53.44 | Philo | just another short question: is there a problem if i use my 2.6.11-Config-Script to compile a 2.6.13-Kernel? |
| 21:53.46 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright Ok |
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| 21:53.59 | bbrazil | Philo: do a make oldconfig and you should be okay |
| 21:54.04 | antgel | !topicsmite Tufe_GUD-DF |
| 21:54.07 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Tufe_GUD-DF. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 21:54.10 | douglas | antgel: where's the excitement in that? |
| 21:54.12 | antgel | !tell Tufe_GUD-DF about msg |
| 21:54.14 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright do you for utilization zope for spark plataforms? |
| 21:54.17 | douglas | time for her to feel young again |
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| 21:54.22 | sandman | How to dchroot into a gentoo chroot? |
| 21:54.27 | a1fa | anywya :P |
| 21:54.32 | Tufe_GUD-DF | antgel blz! |
| 21:54.35 | sandman | dchroot works fine with debian chroots, but not with gentoo chroots. Was wondering what's different |
| 21:54.38 | a1fa | time to install nvidia driver |
| 21:54.41 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: no idea :) |
| 21:54.46 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright kkk |
| 21:54.49 | doublehp | antgel: after 20mn tries: 3c59x.netdev= is ignored by kernel, and netdev= and ether=have absolutely no effect. Problem still pernding. |
| 21:54.57 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright where you from? |
| 21:55.09 | douglas | is it better to have a slave hard drive used only as a swap versus having one hd with the swap partition on the same disc |
| 21:55.12 | Khiraly | is it somewhere a tutorial how can I build the appropriate way the ndiswrapper-source package against a specific kernel (btw ndiswrapper source package installed a tar.bz2 fajl under the /usr/src directory) |
| 21:55.13 | Philo | and then the known "make-kpkg kernel-image"? |
| 21:55.36 | antgel | Khiraly: why would you download the source when the debian package is there for you? please learn to use debian infrastructure to help you avoid these headaches. next you'll be telling me that you didn't build your kernel with make-kpkg |
| 21:55.40 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: Aaustralia |
| 21:55.40 | Tufe_GUD-DF | antgel ok...do you know lists for zope? |
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| 21:55.53 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright oww..land of samba |
| 21:55.54 | antgel | Tufe_GUD-DF: yes, www.zope.org |
| 21:56.03 | Tufe_GUD-DF | antgel thanks |
| 21:56.06 | douglas | samba makes me sad |
| 21:56.08 | teclo | Hello, what is going on with lists.debian.org ? The thread index had not been updated for hours. I've sent an email to debian-user@lists.debian.org six hours ago and it does not appear at all in the thread index. Please, what is going on ? |
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| 21:56.13 | antgel | Tufe_GUD-DF: don't mention it |
| 21:56.15 | douglas | the name sounds so cute and it builds up expectations |
| 21:56.33 | antgel | Khiraly: did it occur to you to read the docs in /usr/share/doc? |
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| 21:56.38 | EdgEy | hmm.. |
| 21:56.44 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: :) |
| 21:56.48 | Tufe_GUD-DF | antgel ok |
| 21:57.05 | EdgEy | would there be any way to install a package during a netinst's installer? |
| 21:57.18 | Khiraly | antgel: For the stock kernel (2.4.27) I have used the ndiswrapper-modules-2.4.27 package (and it works). Now I have builded a 2.6 kernel (with make-kpkg), and I want to build a ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.14p1 package (just like is it there for 2.4 kernel), but Im not able to do it. I want to change my kernel, thats is |
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| 21:57.18 | tictac | EdgEy: to do what? |
| 21:57.21 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: im friend with Rodrigo Santoro, do you know him? |
| 21:57.22 | EdgEy | modem |
| 21:57.24 | rajiv | "/join |
| 21:57.25 | rajiv | #debian-desktop" |
| 21:57.37 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright huahauhauhauua...really? |
| 21:57.41 | beaufils | I use an IBM xseries 336 with ServeRaid SCSI card. ipssend find the card but RaidMan does not. Any idea ? |
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| 21:57.46 | EdgEy | i use eciadsl for my USB modem :/ |
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| 21:57.49 | antgel | Khiraly: ffs. how many times. use the ndiswrapper-source package. |
| 21:57.54 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright he is very most artist of TV in Brazil |
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| 21:58.09 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: yes true, im actor from Australia and we worked together for 3 days on a commercial here |
| 21:58.11 | rajiv | "/join |
| 21:58.11 | rajiv | #debian-desktop" |
| 21:58.22 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: yeah |
| 21:58.27 | tictac | EdgEy: get better hardware :P |
| 21:58.49 | Khiraly | antgel: I have installed the ndiswrapper-source package (how you have pointed), but the package is a dummy package. It installed the ndiswrapper.tar.bz2 file under /usr/src directory, nothing else |
| 21:58.49 | douglas | So nobody knows if it's advantageous to use a second HD as your swap instead of the same disc? |
| 21:58.54 | EdgEy | tictac lol |
| 21:58.54 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright do you know pessoalyt? |
| 21:59.15 | EdgEy | i just upgraded most of my hardware, unfortunately that came over new modem :p |
| 21:59.49 | xelam | douglas: it probably is |
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| 22:00.02 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: pessoalyt? |
| 22:00.06 | antgel | Khiraly: again, for the millionth time. have you read the documentation in /usr/share/doc? |
| 22:00.13 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright do you travle for FIsL 7.0? |
| 22:00.23 | douglas | then i'm doing it for better or worse, ty xelam |
| 22:00.29 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright or Deb COnf in Porto Alegre? |
| 22:00.30 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: i dont know what FIsL 7.0 is |
| 22:00.40 | lightbright | Tufe_GUD-DF: you lost me |
| 22:00.42 | antgel | douglas: for "mum" usage, it makes no difference |
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| 22:01.01 | Tufe_GUD-DF | lightbright fisl is the Internacional forum in brazil |
| 22:01.14 | douglas | think of it as a bowling ball gift to a wife |
| 22:01.26 | douglas | not that i'm still living with my parents or anything |
| 22:01.30 | douglas | just being poetic |
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| 22:02.02 | Andy837 | has anyone in here ever installed VHCS on debian sarge? |
| 22:02.11 | antgel | !tell Andy837 about anyone |
| 22:02.23 | Khiraly | antgel: yes. There are 3 method described. But no chance. Thx for your time, I try tomorrow google-ing more |
| 22:02.27 | Khiraly | bye |
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| 22:03.57 | bibe | hi, i've a question about isdnlog from isdnutils package. can i ask it here or is there a special channel? |
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| 22:04.22 | antgel | bibe: ask butremember isdn ain't too populaar these days |
| 22:04.28 | romulo | yo, from nothing my ethernet cards started to bind in the wrong address, actually the onboard card is binding to eth1 and the offboard is binding to eth0...what can i do to automatic bind the devices i need? |
| 22:04.44 | antgel | romulo: change /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:05.11 | romulo | antgel, looks ok for me |
| 22:05.14 | romulo | can u take a look? |
| 22:05.29 | antgel | romulo: i mean, swap round eths in that file |
| 22:05.39 | antgel | !tell romulo about u |
| 22:05.45 | Andy837 | i am struggling with VHCS (install + config) just wondered where i was going wrong |
| 22:06.06 | lightbright | it says my clamav is up to date, yet I get a message warning clamav is outdated! Any fix for this? |
| 22:06.23 | antgel | !tell lightbright about volatile |
| 22:06.38 | bibe | ok,i use isdnlog to log calls to an database. now, i'd like to write a web interface for the calls. there are IR, IC and IH states. is it possible, to get an id for each call to find for each IH signal its IR signal? |
| 22:06.44 | romulo | antgel, can i bind there from interface? |
| 22:07.08 | antgel | bibe: i suggest that if you don't get an answer here, you find a package-specific mailing list for support |
| 22:07.17 | lightbright | antgel: but I have volatile on my sources.list, yet it still says its the current version when I type "apt-get install clamav" |
| 22:07.18 | antgel | romulo: what does that mean? |
| 22:07.33 | antgel | lightbright: did you update? |
| 22:07.43 | lightbright | antgel: yes |
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| 22:08.19 | antgel | lightbright: then my best guess is that volatlie contains updated virus definitions, but not program binaries. you could contact the volatile maintainers for support |
| 22:08.47 | lightbright | antgel: deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main |
| 22:08.48 | romulo | antgel, i want to bind interfaces by device name(module name) like eth0 goes to sis900 module |
| 22:08.48 | romulo | got it? |
| 22:08.56 | lightbright | antgel: thats in my sources.list |
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| 22:09.10 | blockd | romulo: there's aliases in modules.conf |
| 22:09.17 | antgel | romulo: somebody else just asked that. it's not possible afaik. why do you need it? |
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| 22:09.52 | romulo | antgel, its fucking all my system =P =( |
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| 22:10.01 | antgel | blockd: does that work for network device names? |
| 22:10.02 | Eulex | romulo, easiest way to do that is to make sure that the modules are always loaded in the same order. |
| 22:10.16 | antgel | romulo: if you fix /etc/network/interfaces, it won't fuck up you're system |
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| 22:10.20 | black_Nightmare | hey ;) |
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| 22:11.08 | tictac | hey |
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| 22:11.18 | black_Nightmare | just kinda wondering about it but anyhow...are any browser for debian IE-looking-alike? (well the thing is my mother sometimes is fustrated when something is supposed to be there/easy and its not so...) |
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| 22:11.45 | antgel | black_Nightmare: if firefox doesn't look similar enough then no |
| 22:11.47 | EdibleText | black_Nightmare, firefox |
| 22:11.56 | blockd | antgel: yes |
| 22:11.58 | black_Nightmare | hm ty |
| 22:12.03 | romulo | hmmm |
| 22:12.07 | romulo | =P |
| 22:12.10 | Eulex | black_Nightmare, if firefox ain't enough you could run ie in wine.... |
| 22:12.17 | Andy837 | i am struggling with VHCS (install + config) just wondered where i was going wrong |
| 22:12.25 | black_Nightmare | eulex..lol I know...was looking for the possible easiest option first :p |
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| 22:12.33 | blockd | antgel: at least for 2.4... might be slightly different for 2.6 for all I knkow |
| 22:12.57 | romulo | antgel, the module even inst listed on /etc/modules.conf |
| 22:13.08 | lightbright | i have never seen this message before when doing an update: PASS failed, server said: Sorry, 250 users already connected - try using the web interface |
| 22:13.14 | lightbright | has anyone else seen this? |
| 22:13.21 | blockd | romulo: you probably have to add it manually, although Debian doesn't want you editing that file directly. |
| 22:13.28 | kurtak | Okay, so I tried to copy a folder onto my windows drive and i can see it if i ls that folder, but if i try to ls the contents, i get simply "Input/output error" same thing if i try to remove it. any hints on how to take care of this?? |
| 22:13.30 | EdibleText | lightbright, ftp user limit |
| 22:13.37 | blockd | romulo: there's a big warning at the top and instructions on how to make changes |
| 22:13.43 | lightbright | EdibleText: i never seen that before :P |
| 22:13.57 | kurtak | Is there anything i can do? |
| 22:14.00 | EdibleText | lightbright, I used to see it more a long time ago |
| 22:14.06 | lightbright | EdibleText: ah ok |
| 22:14.12 | antgel | kurtak: what filesystem is it? |
| 22:14.18 | kurtak | ntfs |
| 22:14.28 | antgel | kurtak: how did you write to it? |
| 22:14.42 | EdibleText | lightbright, in sources list you could switch ftp: to http: perhaps |
| 22:14.46 | black_Nightmare | next question out of curiousity: pop3 email client with square text-labeled buttons near menu for 'new message' and 'send/receive' etc ... well -- you know? (doesn't have to be similar to OE but at least be easy to spot right away) |
| 22:14.46 | kurtak | no, it's gotta be fat32- i made that little hack when installing winxp |
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| 22:14.57 | kurtak | antgel: sorry fat32 |
| 22:14.59 | lightbright | EdibleText: yeah |
| 22:15.25 | antgel | kurtak: ffs. which one is it? can you paste output of mount (see /topic) |
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| 22:16.05 | palppp | Hello |
| 22:16.20 | EdibleText | kurtak, a mounted smb share? |
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| 22:17.13 | sulo | Hello |
| 22:17.16 | kurtak | EdibleText- I copied it from a mounted smb share |
| 22:17.23 | EdibleText | kurtak, unmount it and remount it.. you are no longer connected to it |
| 22:17.57 | sulo | How do I probe what video adapter |
| 22:18.06 | sulo | is in my box? |
| 22:18.15 | antgel | !tell sulo about enter |
| 22:18.16 | Eulex | sulo, lspci |
| 22:18.17 | kurtak | EdibleText: I copied the folder from a mounted share to the drive on my computer- now the folder on my computer gives me the input/output error. |
| 22:18.21 | streuner | sulo: lspci -v | grep VGA |
| 22:18.25 | sulo | antgel :) yeah... |
| 22:18.57 | sulo | Eulex, streuner, yeah... thought there was some script provided by the xfree dist? |
| 22:19.05 | sulo | meeow |
| 22:19.06 | EdibleText | kurtak, hmm maybe you symlinked |
| 22:19.35 | Eulex | sulo, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86/xorg tries to do it, but may not always succeed |
| 22:19.35 | sulo | Eulex ah, thanks |
| 22:19.38 | kurtak | EdibleText: No, i just did a straight up cp -R |
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| 22:20.14 | EdibleText | kurtak, type mount |
| 22:20.38 | EdibleText | kurtak, any crufty smb mounts |
| 22:20.54 | mrverbos1 | can someone tell me why debian refuses to run sudo -u someuser $X-Application even when given the proper XAuthority? |
| 22:20.56 | lightbright | when using rsync, there is an option for -c which says: skip based on checksum, not mod-time & size. What exactly does that mean? |
| 22:21.07 | EdibleText | kurtak, I have only seen that message when a mounted smbfs was borked |
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| 22:21.09 | lightbright | what exactly is skip based on checksum, not mod-time & size ? |
| 22:21.25 | xelam | it compares files based on checksum instead of date+size |
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| 22:21.30 | lithium | I have about 80 text files in a directory that i have to amke a change to with a regex, what tool should be used? |
| 22:21.33 | xelam | and doesn't copy ones that havent changed |
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| 22:21.39 | xelam | i'd imagine it'd be slow |
| 22:21.46 | lightbright | xelam: is that needed if copying files from one hard drive to another? |
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| 22:21.55 | kurtak | EdibleText: k, did mount, nothing unusual. here's the win partition that it's on: /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=002,uid=1000,gid=100) |
| 22:22.02 | xelam | not if you preserve the times |
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| 22:22.19 | xelam | it'd be needed if the dates had all been reset or something |
| 22:22.28 | lightbright | xelam: if you want to make an exact copy of one hard drive to another, you would need it, would you? |
| 22:22.36 | xelam | no you wouldn't |
| 22:22.43 | lightbright | xelam: ok thanks |
| 22:23.02 | Andy837 | has anyone here ever installed VHCS? |
| 22:23.17 | lightbright | Andy837: whats VHCS? |
| 22:23.17 | ke6isf | Andy837: No, nobody has, not even those who have. |
| 22:23.29 | EdibleText | kurtak, so you mounted a remote windows share then copied the data to a mounted windows partition? |
| 22:23.34 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 22:23.34 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 22:23.37 | sulo | bye |
| 22:23.39 | Andy837 | a hosting control panel / web server etc |
| 22:23.41 | kurtak | EdibleText: yup |
| 22:23.42 | antgel | Andy837: you're already been asked to ask a proper question |
| 22:23.42 | Jxpx | !fuck |
| 22:23.42 | dpkg | from memory, fuck is a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
| 22:24.10 | antgel | i can't believe fartfarm.com exists |
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| 22:24.17 | kurtak | EdibleText: the share was on a network |
| 22:24.20 | EdibleText | kurtak, perhaps something was (un)mounted is a less then optimal way.. |
| 22:24.32 | SerajewelKS | you know you're a debian addict when you type "apt-cache search blah blah" into the firefox address bar to search google |
| 22:24.34 | kurtak | EdibleText: it's possible |
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| 22:25.35 | kurtak | EdibleText: There just doesn't seem to be anything I can do with this folder. |
| 22:26.03 | antgel | kurtak: are you doing all this as root? if so, why? |
| 22:26.07 | VolVE | hey all, after I've created a new config file in /etc/logrotate.d/ do I need to do anything to make logrotate aware of it or will it simply pick it up automatically? |
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| 22:26.13 | EdgEy | SerajewelKS wow its not just me, lol |
| 22:26.26 | EdgEy | i find myself trying to apt-get in windows sometimes |
| 22:26.26 | EdgEy | -.- |
| 22:26.36 | kurtak | antgel: Yes, i've tried as user and root |
| 22:27.00 | antgel | kurtak: can you umount the vfat partition? |
| 22:27.16 | kurtak | antgel: yeah, i umounted and remounted |
| 22:27.26 | EdibleText | kurtak, what was the mountpoint of the smb share? |
| 22:27.32 | Eulex | EdgEy, when I'm in windows I keep wishing I could sudo... |
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| 22:27.55 | antgel | kurtak: can you paste output of ls -ld on the folder (not /topic) |
| 22:28.00 | antgel | s/not/note |
| 22:28.01 | SerajewelKS | Eulex: look at "runas" |
| 22:28.02 | The_Vulture | lightbright: it means use checksums rather than the last-modified dat and file size to decide whether the file has been updated |
| 22:28.02 | mrproper | How do I mount an external USB hard drive? |
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| 22:28.10 | SerajewelKS | Eulex: runas /user:Administrator foobar.exe |
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| 22:28.24 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, hmm, ok |
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| 22:28.40 | antgel | mrproper: you google then you tell us what problems you had |
| 22:28.46 | kurtak | antgel: No, i can't ls -anything on the folder, just get "Input/output error" |
| 22:29.03 | antgel | kurtak: does that go for anything on that partition? |
| 22:29.04 | mrproper | antgel: I did Google, but not finding a ton. |
| 22:29.19 | EdibleText | kurtak, did you mount the smb share at a mount point on the mounted vfat partition> |
| 22:29.21 | kurtak | antgel: no, the other folders seem okay |
| 22:29.45 | EdibleText | kurtak, or vice-versa? |
| 22:29.53 | EdibleText | verse |
| 22:29.54 | kurtak | EdibleText: no, just to a folder in my /mnt directory |
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| 22:30.09 | mrproper | antgel: I am not sure which drive to mount. |
| 22:30.14 | antgel | kurtak: what about ls -l on the parent folder? |
| 22:30.23 | antgel | mrproper: why not? |
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| 22:30.45 | mrproper | antgel: Because...is it scsi? Which usb device is it? etc? |
| 22:30.48 | kurtak | antgel: then it shows info about all other folders and gives the error for my problem folder as the first line |
| 22:31.16 | antgel | kurtak: suggest you check the filesystem |
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| 22:31.34 | antgel | mrproper: did you look in the logs when you plugged it in? |
| 22:31.54 | mrproper | antgel: Yeah, I looked at dmesg. |
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| 22:32.16 | antgel | mrproper: and what about syslog? |
| 22:32.24 | kurtak | antgel: how? w/ fsck? |
| 22:32.30 | EdibleText | mrproper, run dmesg after you plug in the drive .. if you have the 'proper' support for the device you should see what device it is |
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| 22:32.42 | antgel | kurtak: no, with whatever windows uses to check filesystems |
| 22:32.44 | corp-mule | yo |
| 22:32.50 | mrproper | scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices |
| 22:32.50 | mrproper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.50 | kurtak | antgel: oh, right |
| 22:33.00 | mrproper | It's on bus 2. |
| 22:33.03 | mrproper | But that's all I know. |
| 22:33.03 | kurtak | antgel: checkdisk i suppose |
| 22:33.08 | corp-mule | I've just installed debian and then installed firefox with the aptitude tool. |
| 22:33.16 | antgel | mrproper: you using a stock debian kernel? |
| 22:33.21 | corp-mule | when I run firefox, it give a gtk error |
| 22:33.27 | mrproper | antgel: Yes. |
| 22:33.33 | ricochet | could someone help? my / is 100% full, but my others - /usr, /var, /home, /tmp are all ok. I'm not sure which files to remove to free up space. /root is small, apt started complaining. I believe the partitions are the default |
| 22:33.36 | antgel | corp-mule: is this stable? |
| 22:33.38 | kurtak | antgel, EdibleText: well thanks so much for your time! |
| 22:33.39 | corp-mule | what gtk package/lib do I need to install? |
| 22:33.48 | Eulex | corp-mule, what exactly does it tell you? |
| 22:33.54 | kurtak | scandisk i meant, not checkdisk |
| 22:33.54 | corp-mule | sarge |
| 22:33.59 | EdibleText | ricochet, /tmp |
| 22:34.07 | cheal | corp-mule: which error? |
| 22:34.09 | EdibleText | ricochet, oo nm |
| 22:34.15 | corp-mule | hold on |
| 22:34.16 | antgel | mrproper: do you have discover and hotplug installed? |
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| 22:34.47 | corp-mule | (firefox-bin:2356): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
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| 22:35.12 | EdibleText | !mrproper |
| 22:35.12 | dpkg | from memory, mrproper is at http://kt.linuxcare.com/kernel-traffic/kt20010202_105.epl#10, or ( It is Finnish for "Mr. Clean" ) |
| 22:35.15 | mrproper | Ahhh, got it. |
| 22:35.27 | mrproper | Thanks guys. |
| 22:35.40 | mrproper | antgel: I'm installing discover. |
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| 22:36.07 | corp-mule | antgel, did you see the error? |
| 22:36.19 | Eulex | corp-mule, could you try and run firefox with sudo? |
| 22:36.22 | antgel | corp-mule: not all of it |
| 22:36.29 | corp-mule | (firefox-bin:2356): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 22:36.31 | corp-mule | k |
| 22:36.35 | corp-mule | I'll try with sudo |
| 22:36.54 | drac | Don't start it as root at all. |
| 22:37.09 | corp-mule | hehheh, I don't have sudo installed. |
| 22:37.09 | antgel | corp-mule: don't do that. are you logged in as root? |
| 22:37.18 | SerajewelKS | any idea why fceu would choke on super mario bros. 1? |
| 22:37.18 | corp-mule | I can su |
| 22:37.25 | drac | You never start X as root either. |
| 22:37.40 | blockd | there's always gksu (or whatever it's called), but I wouldn't use that for running firefox as root |
| 22:37.52 | corp-mule | okay |
| 22:38.01 | blockd | but say you wanted to run ethereal as root, then it might be handy |
| 22:38.04 | corp-mule | so I guess I need to install some kind of lib |
| 22:38.10 | corp-mule | but I don't know what |
| 22:38.16 | SerajewelKS | corp-mule: you need to make sure DISPLAY is set to :0 |
| 22:38.18 | corp-mule | I'm running wmaker |
| 22:38.24 | antgel | corp-mule: are you logged in as root? |
| 22:38.25 | corp-mule | and I don't want to run kde or gnome |
| 22:38.27 | Eulex | drac & antgel, it's a known error to me. I've seen it several times. most times you even have to do xhost + the first time you start firefox; but that's just the first time. (xhost - right after that, o'course) |
| 22:38.28 | corp-mule | no |
| 22:38.31 | corp-mule | not root |
| 22:38.53 | antgel | Eulex: not known to me |
| 22:38.56 | drac | export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 22:39.02 | corp-mule | do that? |
| 22:39.03 | antgel | corp-mule: are you using sarge? |
| 22:39.06 | drac | sure |
| 22:39.10 | corp-mule | yes sarge |
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| 22:39.43 | corp-mule | nlb1:~# firefox & |
| 22:39.43 | corp-mule | [1] 2363 |
| 22:39.43 | corp-mule | nlb1:~# Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 22:39.43 | corp-mule | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 22:39.43 | corp-mule | (firefox-bin:2363): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
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| 22:39.54 | corp-mule | oops |
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| 22:39.55 | drac | Don't start it as root.. |
| 22:39.56 | corp-mule | sorry |
| 22:40.00 | antgel | corp-mule: that's root |
| 22:40.09 | blockd | I could tell you how to get it to work without gksu etc |
| 22:40.13 | blockd | ... but why run it as root? |
| 22:40.19 | corp-mule | oh damn |
| 22:40.22 | corp-mule | lol |
| 22:40.24 | EdibleText | !spank corp-mule |
| 22:40.35 | blockd | it comes down to needing the magic cookie |
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| 22:40.42 | corp-mule | well, ain't I a dumb ass |
| 22:40.50 | corp-mule | it works now :) |
| 22:41.04 | corp-mule | lol |
| 22:41.11 | corp-mule | ah hell |
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| 22:41.33 | corp-mule | now I just need a better video card for this system |
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| 22:42.37 | Miesco | What type of file should my DVD be saved as? |
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| 22:43.00 | valdyn | Miesco: why does that matter? |
| 22:43.15 | Andy837 | what does apt-get upgrade do? when i run it, it generates lots of errors |
| 22:43.25 | valdyn | Andy837: read the manpage? |
| 22:43.31 | antgel | Andy837: if you don't know what it does, why are you doing it? |
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| 22:44.14 | SerajewelKS | the hell? |
| 22:44.14 | Miesco | Whats better mpg or avi? |
| 22:44.27 | corp-mule | man, debian sure makes it easy to install apps |
| 22:44.29 | SerajewelKS | why does fceu's manpage say the default keymappings, but fceu have completely different ones? |
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| 22:44.37 | chrisben | Hey I'm trying to upgrade from 2.6.5 to 2.6.14 and I'm having network card problems PCI: Unable to reserve I/O region #1 |
| 22:44.40 | stew | Miesco: apples and oranges |
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| 22:44.55 | corp-mule | I love how I can only install a base system and then only add what I want. |
| 22:44.56 | valdyn | Miesco: avi is a container that can contain *any* type of movie, mpg is typically a specific encoding ( which could be contained in an avi too ) |
| 22:44.59 | setog3 | Hi , I don't find any tweaking guide to optimize the speed of app in debian , and I want to know if it is some good tips .. , because I have a good pc ( 512Mb ram , sempron 2200+) , and app like firefox , openoffice, rox-filer, nautilus , take many time to run , any idea ? |
| 22:45.03 | antgel | corp-mule: not to mention protecting users from exposing themselves to security risks |
| 22:45.25 | antgel | setog3: openoffice = bloat. nautilus = gnome = bloat |
| 22:45.26 | corp-mule | I've wanted to learn more about it for years. |
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| 22:45.48 | blockd | setog3: some people like using prelink for load times.... |
| 22:45.49 | SerajewelKS | antgel: show me a competent office suite that's not bloated |
| 22:45.50 | corp-mule | so I'm rebuilding my system. ... gettin' rid of red hat. |
| 22:46.00 | corp-mule | woooowhoooo |
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| 22:46.19 | antgel | !beer corp-mule |
| 22:46.19 | Tagory | Hi |
| 22:46.21 | valdyn | setog3: apt-cache show prelink |
| 22:46.24 | corp-mule | not meaning to bash any distros |
| 22:46.37 | corp-mule | but some are begining to act like m$ |
| 22:46.42 | antgel | corp-mule: you can bash fedora all you like. pointless. |
| 22:46.43 | setog3 | thx blockd thx valdyn I go to see |
| 22:46.45 | corp-mule | install crap even if I don't want it. |
| 22:46.49 | Tagory | I have setup a USB printer under Linux. But I would like to share the printer for other windows network pc's. Can someone tell me how to do that? |
| 22:47.21 | xelam | samba |
| 22:47.23 | valdyn | Tagory: windows can print to printers shared by cups directly |
| 22:47.37 | Miesco | valdyn: So if I get a DVD it doesn't matter quality wise if its mpg or avi? |
| 22:47.38 | xelam | or you could do that |
| 22:47.46 | corp-mule | hell, I've only used 690MB of my hd! |
| 22:47.48 | valdyn | Tagory: all you have to do in this case on your linux box is adjust who can print in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and restart cupsys |
| 22:48.03 | corp-mule | I still have some stuff to install, but ... it's my choice. |
| 22:48.13 | Tagory | valdyn >> Can you tell me how I can share a printer under cups? |
| 22:48.23 | valdyn | Tagory: i just did ) |
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| 22:48.25 | Tagory | Ok, thanks, valdyn |
| 22:48.34 | Tagory | Sorry, yeah, I didn't see it ;) |
| 22:48.35 | Tagory | Thanks |
| 22:48.41 | SerajewelKS | damnit.. why do manpages have to be so outdated |
| 22:48.43 | Wyzard | Tagory: Just configure cups to allow connections from places other than localhost |
| 22:48.56 | Pooky__ | I'm using an external DVD burner on my laptop, it's connected using a PCMCIA IEEE1394 card but I cannot access the drive using Debian. I have found some information but none of it seems relevant to connecting to a DVD burner using a PCMCIA card. Please help? |
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| 22:49.03 | valdyn | Tagory: on the windows side you just print to something like 'http://server:681/printers/name |
| 22:49.17 | Wyzard | Tagory: In the Windows printer-setup wizard, enter the URL for the printer's info page (http://yourcomputer:631/printers/yourprinter) |
| 22:49.47 | lightbright | is rsync a universal application along all Linux distro |
| 22:49.50 | lightbright | s? |
| 22:49.59 | Wyzard | Pooky__: Do you have the driver for the 1394 card loaded? |
| 22:50.01 | Wyzard | lightbright: yes |
| 22:50.02 | valdyn | Tagory: Tagory ops, 631, not 681, as wyzard correctly said |
| 22:50.04 | lightbright | or is rsync only available for Debian? |
| 22:50.08 | antgel | lightbright: what do you mean by a universal app? |
| 22:50.20 | Wyzard | lightbright: rsync is not specific to Debian |
| 22:50.21 | antgel | lightbright: google |
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| 22:50.31 | valdyn | lightbright: its common, even runs on windows. |
| 22:50.35 | lightbright | Wyzard: ok great :) I was just wondering because many linux magazines only recommend using cp to copy entyore hard drives to another, and why dont they recommend rsync instead |
| 22:50.37 | stew | lightbright: rsync will be part of any sane unix distro |
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| 22:50.39 | eliteforce | hi |
| 22:50.40 | Pooky__ | Wyzard: i used symantic to search for a driver but i couldnt find the correct one to install, do you know what it is called please? |
| 22:50.46 | lightbright | valdyn: ok great |
| 22:51.08 | Wyzard | lightbright: I'd use dd for copying one hard drive to another, if the two drives are exactly the same size |
| 22:51.22 | Wyzard | lightbright: (If they're different sizes, you shouldn't do an image copy anyway) |
| 22:51.25 | lightbright | Wyzard: dd wont work if the 2 hard drives are different sizes |
| 22:51.30 | eliteforce | i have a strange error when i try to compile something, i have 260mb free ram and some gb of free swap: virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory |
| 22:51.36 | lightbright | Wyzard: in many cases |
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| 22:51.44 | Wyzard | lightbright: rsync only really helps if the destination already has some of the data and you want to send only the differences |
| 22:52.10 | lightbright | Wyzard: I used rsync when making a copy of my 20 gig to a 10gig, worked perfect :) and the 10gig booted as normal |
| 22:52.14 | Wyzard | lightbright: oh, you're talking about rsyncing the files on the drive, not the raw device |
| 22:52.16 | doublehp | antgel: after using ifrename, it works a way I dislike: ifrename can not swap eth0-eth1 ... thus I compleetely remap kernel names eth0-4 to personal names: eth10-14 ... what is way more dirty than I wanted, but I have already lost 30mn testing all possible kernel arguments ... I give up for today. |
| 22:52.22 | bibe | how can i put text to another shell? "echo test > pts/2" doesn't work for me. :( |
| 22:52.43 | antgel | doublehp: suggest you give up full stop |
| 22:52.50 | Tagory | Thanks Wyzard and valdyn. One question left: can I allow other computers like this: Allow From localhost, 10.0.0.55, etc ...... or should I use a new line for every ip address? |
| 22:52.50 | Wyzard | lightbright: In that case, if the target drive already has some of the files (maybe it contains an older backup or something), rsync would help |
| 22:52.55 | lightbright | Wyzard: well, I used rsync to copy Debian from a 20 gig to a new 10 gig which was empty at the time. And now the 10 gig hard drive boots and works exactly like the 20 gig :) |
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| 22:53.21 | lightbright | Wyzard: no, my destination was totally empty and I used rsync to copy from source |
| 22:53.24 | stew | bibe: echo test > /dev/pts/2 |
| 22:53.25 | Wyzard | lightbright: If the target drive is empty or contains completely different files, rsync doesn't really provide any benefit over cp, and might actually be slightly slower |
| 22:53.28 | lightbright | Wyzard: and it works great |
| 22:53.31 | stew | bibe: you might wanna look at write |
| 22:53.35 | antgel | Tagory: add your network address (if applicable) |
| 22:53.41 | bibe | stew: thx !! |
| 22:53.46 | _joey | I downloaded source for a package using apt-get source package. now how do I build .deb package ? |
| 22:53.49 | doublehp | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.51 | _joey | from this source |
| 22:54.05 | antgel | _joey: see the NMG |
| 22:54.13 | lightbright | Wyzard: rsync -ravlpogtDH --progress --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc / /mnt <-- this command worked like a charm, better than cp, as it copied correctly /dev and other things that cp wouldnt |
| 22:54.22 | _joey | antgel what is NMG ? |
| 22:54.29 | Wyzard | _joey: There are several convenience tools for doing that... debuild, from the "devscripts" package, is one of them |
| 22:54.37 | antgel | !tell _joey about nmg |
| 22:54.41 | Wyzard | lightbright: cp -a |
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| 22:55.06 | lightbright | Wyzard: and what I like is that ravlpogtDH = These options allow a mode filing (A) into recursive (r) by preserving the bonds symbolic systems (L), by preserving the hardware-links (H), preserving the permissions (p), the owner (o) and groups it (G), by preserving the devices (D) and by respecting the fields "times" files |
| 22:55.10 | kurtak | antgel: Do you know why I can't write to my win drive today when i mount it w/ these options? /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=002,uid=1000,gid=100) |
| 22:55.21 | palppp | Is there a way to re-run the network initialization that was run at debian setup (sarge)? |
| 22:55.22 | lightbright | Wyzard: cp -a will loop into itself when copying /mnt |
| 22:55.23 | kurtak | antgel: i'm root |
| 22:55.24 | _joey | Wyzard it's debian source just give me the command to build .deb from it ;) |
| 22:55.28 | Wyzard | lightbright: "cp -a" does all those things too |
| 22:55.49 | lightbright | Wyzard: no it doesnt, I tried cp -a and it looped and looped into itself when copying /mnt |
| 22:56.03 | antgel | kurtak: no, but you have mounted it with uid=1000, so why are you root? |
| 22:56.09 | lightbright | Wyzard: this is well known fact that I read on websites about cp -a |
| 22:56.10 | Wyzard | lightbright: You don't want to be copying /mnt anyway, right? |
| 22:56.11 | kurtak | antgel: and it says "cannot create directory: Read-only file system |
| 22:56.14 | antgel | lightbright: cp -ax |
| 22:56.29 | lightbright | antgel: yes i learned about -ax aftewards :) |
| 22:56.30 | setog3 | another question how to force man using most not less , I have use update-alternative and select most for pager, but man persist trying to use less |
| 22:56.35 | _joey | I downloaded source for a package using apt-get source package. now how do I build .deb package ? |
| 22:56.40 | kurtak | antgel: Oh, those are the options from fstab |
| 22:56.41 | lightbright | antgel: yet I found rsync worked like a charm :) |
| 22:56.52 | antgel | _joey: you just asked and got several good answers |
| 22:57.01 | lightbright | Wyzard: trust me, cp -a is not a wise command as it causes looping problems |
| 22:57.08 | Wyzard | lightbright: You can use "exclude" options or "-x", but all those things, including rsync, have the (minor) problem that they won't preserve the ownership and permissions of the mountpoint directory |
| 22:57.08 | antgel | kurtak: right. so be that user |
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| 22:57.20 | Wyzard | lightbright: since it's obscured by the filesystem mounted on top of it |
| 22:57.23 | dragonkh | hi |
| 22:57.32 | kurtak | antgel: right. thx |
| 22:57.44 | Tagory | Hmm, /etc/init.d/cups restart doesn't work, did I miss something with the installation? |
| 22:57.46 | dragonkh | anyone know software which allows audio record, playback, pause and rewind etc on linux ? |
| 22:57.47 | Tagory | Or how can I restart cups? |
| 22:57.49 | palppp | How do I configure network interfaces in debian? Is there any frontend to do it? |
| 22:57.52 | lightbright | Wyzard: all I know is that the rsync I showed you worked great! I can now run my new hard drive exactly as it was on older hard drive, works perfect :) |
| 22:57.56 | kurtak | antgel: i didn't realize that mattered if you were root |
| 22:57.56 | Wyzard | lightbright: what I do is "mount --bind / /mnt/foo" and then cp -a from /mnt/foo -- that way I get the complete root filesystem and none of the mounts |
| 22:57.57 | valdyn | palppp: etherconf |
| 22:57.57 | Tagory | sorry for asking such newby question |
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| 22:58.05 | dragonkh | does xmms allow it? |
| 22:58.10 | valdyn | Tagory: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart |
| 22:58.15 | palppp | valdyn: thx |
| 22:58.25 | antgel | kurtak: why would you ever want to be root if you don't have to? |
| 22:58.29 | Tagory | Ah, thanks valdyn |
| 22:58.36 | lightbright | Wyzard: try this once and see what you think: rsync -ravlpogtDH |
| 22:58.41 | Wyzard | lightbright: and I'm not sure what you mean about "looping"... it sounds like you're saying "cp -a" will keep copying a mounted filesystem over and over, but that doesn't make any sense |
| 22:58.43 | antgel | Tagory: that goes for ever service in debian |
| 22:58.45 | palppp | valdyn: seems it's not installed... |
| 22:58.54 | valdyn | palppp: so install it |
| 22:59.02 | antgel | Wyzard: man cp. look at -x. cp -ax is what you want |
| 22:59.32 | Wyzard | antgel: I know about that, but as I explained, it doesn't preserve the ownership and permissions of the underlying mountpoint directories |
| 22:59.49 | antgel | Wyzard: as you said, it's a minor issue |
| 22:59.55 | lightbright | Wyzard: so you know what I mean, go here:http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html |
| 22:59.58 | kurtak | antgel: well, i got the same error as being that user |
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| 23:00.16 | kurtak | antgel: "Read-only file system" |
| 23:00.23 | a1fa | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! |
| 23:00.24 | a1fa | great |
| 23:00.27 | palppp | valdyn: a bit hard, since the network is down... |
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| 23:00.31 | _joey | i couldn't find much in that nmg, it's overwhelming |
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| 23:00.36 | lightbright | Wyzard: or go direct here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/copy.html |
| 23:00.43 | lightbright | Wyzard: notice how it talks about looping |
| 23:00.52 | valdyn | !wikifaq palppp UseNetwork |
| 23:00.54 | dpkg | palppp: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseNetwork or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 23:01.20 | Wyzard | lightbright: The word "loop" does not occur anywhere on that page |
| 23:01.31 | eliteforce | is there a global config file for compiler flags? |
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| 23:01.46 | lightbright | Wyzard: lol it talks about looping, if you read it |
| 23:01.53 | AtnNn | this is weird... i just rebooted and when i login to xdm it loads my wm and then returns tot he login screen, with no errors in .xsession-errors |
| 23:01.56 | valdyn | !wikifaq palppp NetworkingPage |
| 23:01.57 | dpkg | palppp: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/NetworkingPage or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 23:02.02 | lightbright | Wyzard: notice it says: However, you don't want to copy the directory /new-disk, since this would copy the new disk to itself! |
| 23:02.06 | Tagory | Well I just entered my ip address in cups to allow access. Then I checked the name of the printer in the printers.conf and tried to print something in windows. But Windows says that it can't connect to the printer |
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| 23:02.12 | Joe7 | hi |
| 23:02.17 | lightbright | Wyzard: that is referring to looping |
| 23:02.18 | Mjelva | guys, how do i mount a network share? if it matters at all to your answer, it's an external harddrive hooked up to my router via an NSLU2. file system being ext3. |
| 23:02.18 | Wyzard | lightbright: Yes, and "cp -ax" avoids that |
| 23:02.19 | antgel | AtnNn: something not working in .xsession or .xinitrc? |
| 23:02.21 | Tagory | Anyone who knows what I am doing wrong? |
| 23:02.22 | palppp | valdyn thank you |
| 23:02.39 | lightbright | Wyzard: exactly, thats what I told you after you said cp -a, that it loops! you need the -x |
| 23:02.42 | valdyn | Tagory: if you entered the URL correctly, cups will tell you stuff in /var/log/cups/error_log |
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| 23:02.55 | lightbright | Wyzard: or better yet, I now use rsync which doesnt loop |
| 23:02.56 | HGOLEO | caiu |
| 23:02.57 | AtnNn | antgel: no, i tried making both contain only xterm of fluxbox, and i still get the same result |
| 23:02.58 | valdyn | Tagory: or access.log there, i guess |
| 23:03.01 | HGOLEO | EO vou formatar mesmo o pc, mas tenho muitos pacotes. Eu vou salvar os pacotes em outro local para nao precisar salvar depois, agluem sabe em que pasta os packages baixados ficam |
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| 23:03.14 | lightbright | Wyzard: you first told me to use cp -a, but I tried to tell you that it wont work cause it loops |
| 23:03.22 | Tagory | This is the URL I am using: http://192.168.1.5:681/printers/HL2030 .. please hold on while I take a look at the log file |
| 23:03.27 | Joe7 | would you tell me pls if it's possible to make a raid10 array, if i have all data now on 1disk, 3others plugged in, and i want to do this without loosing any data? :o |
| 23:03.33 | antgel | AtnNn: you should only have one, probably .xsession. what if you delete those files? |
| 23:03.37 | valdyn | Tagory: replace the 681 with 631 |
| 23:03.42 | Wyzard | lightbright: Your use of rsync didn't "loop" becase you told it to exclude /mnt, not because of any special property of rsync |
| 23:04.00 | Wyzard | lightbright: and the mount-bind and "cp -a" (no -x needed) is more accurate anyway |
| 23:04.06 | lightbright | Wyzard: yeah true and im happy with the rersults for my new hard drive loads and works perfect |
| 23:04.11 | kurtak | antgel: well, i have to go so i'll ask later if i can't figure it out. thanks ! |
| 23:04.11 | valdyn | Tagory: and go there with your webbrowser.. if you cant go there with your browser, then you cant print either |
| 23:04.14 | AtnNn | antgel: afaik xdm loads .xsession and startx loads .xinitrc, but ill try |
| 23:04.21 | lightbright | Wyzard: ok thanks for your feedback and views |
| 23:04.24 | Mjelva | valdyn - i checked XF86Config-4. video is still set to vesa. |
| 23:04.30 | Mjelva | what am i doing wrong? |
| 23:04.33 | lightbright | Wyzard: next time Ill try cp -ax |
| 23:04.35 | valdyn | Mjelva: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 23:04.44 | doublehp | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.53 | antgel | AtnNn: no, one uses either file, one uses just one file (can't remember which) |
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| 23:05.03 | Wyzard | lightbright: It also doesn't require trying to memorize (or look up every time) "ravlpogtDH" |
| 23:05.07 | Tagory | Thanks valdyn that works!! :D |
| 23:05.07 | antgel | doublehp: deprecated doesn't mean you should remove the file |
| 23:05.18 | lightbright | Wyzard: i copy and paste it :) |
| 23:05.25 | valdyn | doublehp: its no big deal to leave that file as it is for now, new place for this is /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 23:05.31 | lost626 | hey I had a quick question about (x)terms |
| 23:05.38 | antgel | lightbright: rsync is only useful in sync situations. otherwise cp is fine |
| 23:05.59 | lightbright | antgel: ok, next time ill use the command "cp -ax / /mnt" |
| 23:06.10 | AtnNn | antgel: yeah, your right. it just loaded e, which is really slow on this old box |
| 23:06.15 | valdyn | doublehp: sysctly.conf should have equivalent options commented out... NOT literally the same stuff |
| 23:06.23 | Pooky__ | I've installed libavc1394-0 which controlls IEEE1394 audio/video devices and seems to be the only relevant thing i can find on synaptic but I'm still having problems accessing my external dvd burner, is there anything you can suggest please? |
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| 23:06.32 | lost626 | I am running debian sid and for some reason, no matter whether I start up twm or xfce the background and text of the window is blacked out |
| 23:06.33 | Wyzard | antgel: Well, it does have the advantage of letting you exclude specific directories (such as /mnt) while still copying others (such as /usr, if your destination doesn't use a separate partition for that) |
| 23:06.41 | antgel | Pooky__: yes, be less vague |
| 23:06.58 | antgel | Wyzard: *nod* |
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| 23:07.04 | lightbright | antgel: but it seems to working perfectly now anyway after using rsync. So no need to recopy using cp -ax |
| 23:07.06 | Pooky__ | sorry, hold on ill write it a little better :S |
| 23:07.07 | Mjelva | valdyn - it says the files are identical |
| 23:07.38 | antgel | Pooky__: you aren't telling us what you are trying to do and what errors you get |
| 23:07.41 | palppp | what file stores the IRQ of my network card? |
| 23:07.50 | Wyzard | lightbright: rsync works fine... but you started out by asking whether it was the right thing to do, and ended up *telling* me that it's the right thing to do and that using "cp" is wrong |
| 23:08.04 | Wyzard | palppp: It's not stored in a file |
| 23:08.09 | lightbright | Wyzard: no i didnt mean that, sorry for the confusion, my mistake |
| 23:08.17 | Pooky__ | antgel: I'm trying to access my external dvd burner which is connected to my laptop using a IEEE1394 PCMCIA card |
| 23:08.27 | lightbright | Wyzard: in fact, next time I ever want to copy entire hard drive to another, ill be using cp -ax |
| 23:08.36 | lightbright | Wyzard: so I valued your input |
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| 23:08.45 | Barnes | whats is the name to apt-get the disc manager in debian? |
| 23:08.59 | Wyzard | disc manager? |
| 23:09.07 | douglas | is there a way to get the kde file manager to tell me the size of the contents of a dir and its subdirs? another manager perhaps? |
| 23:09.10 | Andy837 | is it possible for someone to allow me to add them to MSN who is able to advise me on debian and help me out a little please? |
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| 23:09.24 | lightbright | Wyzard: all I meant was that it seems to be running perfectly, no problems with my new hard drive after using rsync, thats all I was saying. So it seems its copied everytyhing ok |
| 23:09.36 | Wyzard | douglas: It doesn't do what when you right-click on the directory and open its properties page? |
| 23:09.58 | lightbright | Wyzard: im guessing that rsync command and cp would have succesful eiter way |
| 23:10.21 | palppp | When I removed the graphics card from the PCI bus to replace it with another, after rebooting my network wouldn't work. Why's that? |
| 23:10.28 | Pooky__ | antgel: I've looked on the internet for any relevant information for doing this but I haven't been able to find any information. I don't know what directory it would be in or if i need to mount the device |
| 23:10.31 | lightbright | Wyzard: if its running alright now, I dont need to recopy using cp, do i? |
| 23:10.39 | douglas | hey wyzard |
| 23:10.40 | douglas | you good |
| 23:10.42 | douglas | thanks |
| 23:10.42 | Wyzard | lightbright: no, you don't |
| 23:10.52 | lightbright | Wyzard: great |
| 23:11.23 | SerajewelKS | can anyone recommend a good NES emulator that works on debian? fceu and nestra suck. |
| 23:11.47 | SerajewelKS | and anyone who does "!anyone" gets my foot in their balls |
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| 23:12.07 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: snes9x ? |
| 23:12.18 | Wyzard | valdyn: That's SNES, not NES |
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| 23:12.44 | valdyn | Wyzard: ah right. |
| 23:12.51 | cheal | Andy837: no |
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| 23:15.21 | SerajewelKS | fceu wouldn't be half bad if it didn't choke on super mario bros. and if the keymappings in the manpage were actually correct |
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| 23:15.34 | SerajewelKS | and if the website was still around |
| 23:15.44 | Tagory | Is there also a way like in Windows to give a linux pc a name? Like \\mycomputer ? |
| 23:15.55 | SerajewelKS | Tagory: /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 23:16.01 | roler | when debian upgraded me to xorg instead of xfree86 my laptops touchpad doesn't accept tap-clicking anymore |
| 23:16.03 | roler | what options is that? |
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| 23:16.47 | gino | bonsoir |
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| 23:17.21 | hawking | has anyone ever used scilab? I have downloaded it and when I run it all I see is weird symbols(none related with maths or smth) on the window..) I think it needs a package or smth.. how can i fix this? Can anyone help? |
| 23:17.43 | gino | with kpackages , i can update packages one by one ? |
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| 23:18.51 | Mjelva | valdyn - i tried dpkg-reconfigure again, but XF86Config-4 still says the same :( |
| 23:19.15 | valdyn | Mjelva: you can change vesa to i810 manually |
| 23:19.38 | Wyzard | hawking: I don't know what scilab is, but if you're having strange symbols appear on an X display, it sounds like maybe a font problem |
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| 23:20.12 | hawking | Wyzard: it probably is... so should I download some fonts from repos? |
| 23:20.38 | Mjelva | valdyn - ok. how? |
| 23:20.48 | Wyzard | hawking: Well, don't just go downloading fonts at random |
| 23:20.59 | valdyn | Mjelva: with a text editor |
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| 23:21.21 | row | anyone know if BeWAN's ADSL PCI modem can do line bonding in debian? |
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| 23:22.23 | Wyzard | hawking: The scilab package apparently contains some fonts, actually -- they're the last three in the listing at http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=scilab&version=unstable&arch=all |
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| 23:22.53 | Wyzard | hawking: Those are presumably the specialized fonts it needs, so the question is why it's failing to use them |
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| 23:25.30 | SerajewelKS | does debian have a package for the 'compress' executable? |
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| 23:25.51 | valdyn | !find bin/compress |
| 23:26.10 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/compress' (1): (/usr/bin/compress) in utils/ncompress. |
| 23:26.15 | SerajewelKS | aha |
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| 23:28.11 | mentor | !hi |
| 23:28.11 | dpkg | hello, mentor |
| 23:28.12 | Tagory | SerajewelKS >> I am using cups |
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| 23:28.23 | Tagory | Is there also a way to configure that in cups/ |
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| 23:29.12 | valdyn | Tagory: to 'clone' the behaviour you are seeing in windows network neighbourhood with linux you need to use samba |
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| 23:29.16 | Wyzard | Tagory: Add your print server to the hosts file on the Windows machine, or set up DNS on your network |
| 23:29.23 | Wyzard | Tagory: or just use the IP address |
| 23:29.24 | soyuz | Hi people, I did a fresh install the other night, installed squirrelmail and mailutils-imap4d, but I am having grief (UID SEARCH Bogus number set (near end) |
| 23:29.45 | valdyn | Tagory: but that is not really very useful, what wyzard sais is probably easier and good enough |
| 23:29.45 | Mjelva | valdyn - tried the manual change. i810 and i740 don't work at all. from the name of my video device, i'd say i need something like i910 or i915 |
| 23:29.46 | Silent_al | how do i change m sreen's refresh rate ? ( using xorg) |
| 23:29.57 | Silent_al | my screen's* |
| 23:29.58 | Mjelva | that's not in the list, tho. is there some place i can download it on the internets? |
| 23:30.00 | soyuz | so, the mail looks ok... but I'm crapping out |
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| 23:30.18 | Wyzard | Tagory: or look into WINS |
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| 23:30.40 | valdyn | Mjelva: i dont think a driver named like that exists, but newer i810 might support your chip |
| 23:31.02 | Mjelva | valdyn - newer than what i have presently, you mean? where can i get a newer driver? |
| 23:31.05 | soyuz | that is, there doesn't appear to be anything bogus in the /var/mail/username files... |
| 23:31.13 | valdyn | Mjelva: try googling if xorg supports it, xorg can be installed in sarge relatively easily via backports.org |
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| 23:32.16 | Mjelva | i don't get it, valdyn |
| 23:32.19 | valdyn | Mjelva: try to google for the lspci output for your gfx card |
| 23:32.37 | valdyn | Mjelva: newer driver is in xorg |
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| 23:33.13 | cheal | I also think you want an up-to-date i810 driver |
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| 23:33.26 | valdyn | Mjelva: i have NO idea if the driver from xorg supports your card though.. so there's no point in blindly installing it |
| 23:33.34 | soyuz | so I am thinking I should remove mailutils-imap4d and use a different package, courier or whatever. |
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| 23:33.56 | klync | soyuz: i'm a huge fan of cyrus imapd, but don't know how current the debian pkg is |
| 23:34.31 | soyuz | klync it's actually got two there, one for backward compatibility and the other is at 21 |
| 23:34.45 | Mjelva | valdyn - what's the difference between xserver-xfree86 and xorg? |
| 23:35.04 | valdyn | Mjelva: for you just that xorg has newer drivers |
| 23:35.13 | valdyn | !xorg |
| 23:35.13 | dpkg | rumour has it, xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R6.8.2. ask me about <get xorg> |
| 23:35.15 | Eulex | Mjelva, name, pronounciation, and upstream developers |
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| 23:35.24 | Mjelva | valdyn - should i remove xfree86 and install xorg? |
| 23:35.40 | valdyn | Mjelva: hmm? i already told you.. ) |
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| 23:35.43 | soyuz | klync so why are you are big fan, just that it works? or what... |
| 23:36.00 | Wyzard | Mjelva: The XFree86 project made a license change that Linux distributions don't like; xorg is a fork of the codebase from the point right before the license change, and pretty much everyone has moved over to that |
| 23:36.05 | klync | soyuz: well, for one, it supports folders that can contain messages and subfolders |
| 23:36.29 | klync | soyuz: also, you can use pam or sasl for authentication, so your email users aren't tied to system accounts unless you want |
| 23:36.32 | soyuz | :) ... |
| 23:36.34 | klync | soyuz: it's super fast |
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| 23:36.57 | klync | soyuz: it includes a server side filtering sytem using "sieve" (see the rfc) |
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| 23:37.22 | soyuz | I see something about not getting the mail from the standard spool dir... |
| 23:37.44 | klync | soyuz: ya, it used db4 as its backing store... |
| 23:38.01 | klync | soyuz: iirc, you can also use postgres as a backing store, but i've never gotten into that |
| 23:38.36 | soyuz | no mention of that, I thought I read mysql, but that may have been another package |
| 23:39.02 | klync | soyuz: i could be wrong... like i said, i've never needed to replace the db4 method |
| 23:39.03 | soyuz | I've got aptitude open at the moment, pondering choices... |
| 23:39.16 | SerajewelKS | !find liballeg.so.4.0 |
| 23:39.18 | klync | soyuz: it's not the most simple to configure tho, be warned |
| 23:39.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'liballeg.so.4.0' (1): (/usr/lib/liballeg.so.4.0) in libs/liballegro4a. |
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| 23:39.34 | klync | soyuz: i use sendmail as my mta, so i can't advise you if you're using exim or something |
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| 23:39.58 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 23:40.04 | SerajewelKS | dpkg sucks balls |
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| 23:40.30 | soyuz | heh, here I am taking the word of someone I met on irc... fcuk it. I may as well try it |
| 23:40.36 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: How so? |
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| 23:40.50 | klync | i'm doing a bit of googling, but does anyone know an msn messenger client that supports video? my gf won't let me run linux otherwise :-/ |
| 23:41.00 | klync | soyuz: lol |
| 23:41.11 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard: !find is giving me incorrect results? |
| 23:41.15 | useruser | klync: no, but let me know if you find one... |
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| 23:41.38 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: The web search on http://packages.debian.org/ gives the same answer |
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| 23:41.42 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: its searching sid by default |
| 23:41.43 | klync | useruser: google says gaim-vv ... which gaim's site suggests is buggy... haven't looked whether there's a .deb for it |
| 23:41.50 | SerajewelKS | the HELL |
| 23:41.58 | SerajewelKS | why is the SAME package in stable and unstable but NOT TESTING |
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| 23:42.11 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: nothing unusual |
| 23:42.16 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: Removed due to RC bugs, probably |
| 23:42.18 | Schiz0 | I'm trying to ./config some software, and I'm getting the error: "Checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" Anyone know why, or how I can fix it? |
| 23:42.42 | SerajewelKS | it's f**king TESTING. remove it from STABLE if it has bugs. |
| 23:42.49 | Eulex | Schiz0, install build-essential? |
| 23:42.54 | Wyzard | Schiz0: Maybe you don't have a compiler installed? |
| 23:43.08 | Mjelva | thanks valdyn. i'll get right to installing xorg |
| 23:43.22 | Schiz0 | Eulex- I tried that, still does it, Wyzard It finds the compiler in the step before it: checking for gcc... gcc |
| 23:43.23 | Wyzard | Schiz0: build-essential will pull in GCC and libc6-dev and other related things |
| 23:43.24 | klync | SerajewelKS: think you could just scream into your pillow instead? i don't have scrollback on this term, and your rants are eating up my screen real estate |
| 23:43.53 | soyuz | people always told me, don't screw with the production machine until you screwed the dev machine. oh well.. it's broken and got to fix it. thanks klync |
| 23:44.06 | valdyn | !info liballegro4a sarge |
| 23:44.07 | soyuz | I'll let you know... gulp |
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| 23:44.19 | valdyn | !info liballegro4a sid |
| 23:44.24 | klync | soyuz: ok, one word: backups! |
| 23:44.28 | dpkg | liballegro4a: (portable library for cross-platform game and multimedia development), section libs, is optional. Version: 2:4.0.3-14 (sid), Packaged size: 409 kB, Installed size: 1048 kB |
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| 23:45.18 | dpkg | liballegro4a: (portable library for cross-platform game and multimedia development), section libs, is optional. Version: 2:4.0.3-14 (sarge), Packaged size: 409 kB, Installed size: 1048 kB |
| 23:45.27 | lokko | alguem brasilero ae? |
| 23:45.47 | Eulex | !br |
| 23:45.47 | thingfish | lokko: estao no #debian-br |
| 23:45.47 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:45.51 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: this does not necessarily have anything to do at all with that package itself being broken |
| 23:45.58 | SerajewelKS | klync: i don't suppose i need to tell you that this is #debian |
| 23:46.07 | lokko | thingfish tanks :D |
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| 23:46.21 | thingfish | lokko: ;) |
| 23:46.35 | SerajewelKS | klync: nor is it my problem if you can't install a decent irc client |
| 23:46.41 | klync | SerajewelKS: well, supposing you did need to tell me, what would you hope is the effect? |
| 23:46.42 | dubid | hi all!!! |
| 23:47.03 | dubid | anyone here is using kernel 2.6.14 and ATI vga? |
| 23:47.14 | fbi | !anyone use |
| 23:47.15 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 23:47.21 | klync | SerajewelKS: #debian is one of the least likely to stray OT channels i've ever been in |
| 23:47.30 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: still the fact that the same package version is in both stable and unstable is a little... well, wtf |
| 23:47.30 | valdyn | dubid: you found the patch required to compile already? |
| 23:47.33 | thingfish | hah |
| 23:47.39 | Eulex | dubid, umh, ati vga?? |
| 23:47.43 | dubid | no!there is a patch??? |
| 23:47.49 | SerajewelKS | klync: yeah and i'm on topic |
| 23:48.09 | dubid | yes, ati video card |
| 23:48.13 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: maybe its abandoned upstream, maybe the debian maintainer is hibernating ) |
| 23:48.36 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: still doesn't explain how it got *removed* from testing |
| 23:48.50 | dubid | there is a patch that enable to compile the kernel module for ati graphic card? |
| 23:49.12 | klync | anybody ever see this bug.. i've got a pretty new sarge install, where i just did base system, then added gdm and xfree after, and when i login, i get an oldskool X mouse pointer in the centre of my desktop after login, that won't go away (except randomly) |
| 23:49.19 | Wyzard | dubid: You mean the framebuffer module? Or the DRM module? |
| 23:49.33 | klync | (in addition to a normal gnome pointer) |
| 23:49.34 | dubid | i mean the 3d accelleration module |
| 23:49.37 | Wyzard | dubid: Debian's precompiled kernels have most things included already |
| 23:49.38 | Eulex | dubid, I heard something about that the latest version of fglrx should fix problems with 2.6.14, though I haven't tried myself |
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| 23:50.18 | dubid | you mean the latest ati dirvers, doqnloadable in ati site? |
| 23:50.25 | cheal | SerajewelKS: probably because it had RC bug(s) in testing |
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| 23:50.42 | Wyzard | klync: That happens when your video card (or driver) doesn't correctly support using a hardware cursor |
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| 23:51.10 | Wyzard | klync: Put the option "SWCursor" "on" or "HWCursor" "off" in the card's section in your X config |
| 23:51.10 | klync | Wyzard: i see... so, presumably i can turn of hw cursor in my x config? |
| 23:51.14 | klync | ah, ty |
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| 23:51.45 | Eulex | dubid, yes. dunno if it was fixed in 8.18.6 or 8.18.8, but it was in one of them. 8.18.8 is unfortunably not available as packages yet :( |
| 23:52.01 | SerajewelKS | cheal: and it was left in stable? forgive me for being ignorant, but i thought testing was supposed to have some bugs, and stable was not. |
| 23:52.16 | Wyzard | klync: and be aware that if you use a cursor with blended transparency (such as a soft shadow) it'll appear as a blue halo when the cursor is in a video-player window, due to the way overlay works... not a big problem, but something to be aware of |
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| 23:52.30 | dubid | with packages you mean deb packages??? |
| 23:52.37 | klync | Wyzard: thx again, i can live with that |
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| 23:52.50 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: bugs being EXPOSED by a package can mean that it gets remoed, that doesnt mean that the SAME package will expose the same bug in stable |
| 23:52.55 | SimonRaven | dubid: this *is* debian... |
| 23:53.06 | Eulex | dubid, yes, Flavio Stanchina's |
| 23:53.11 | klync | Wyzard: out of curiosity, when you say driver, you mean the kernel driver or the X driver? |
| 23:53.21 | dubid | aaa... |
| 23:53.27 | dubid | o yes,right |
| 23:53.27 | Wyzard | klync: X |
| 23:53.32 | dubid | :) |
| 23:53.47 | dubid | stanchina..italian just like me:) |
| 23:53.53 | valdyn | !why is liballegro4a not in testing |
| 23:53.56 | dpkg | liballegro4a is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=liballegro4a |
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| 23:54.18 | Eulex | dubid, http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 23:54.35 | eliteforce | how can i unlock a port for incoming connections? |
| 23:54.51 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: aha... a gcc4 FTBFS |
| 23:55.00 | dubid | yes yes i know... i just use that great guide to install 8.16 in my 2.6.13 |
| 23:55.03 | TwistedEmotions | Trying to install xserver on my lappy and I keep getting the errors... (EE) Failed to load module "synaptics" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 23:55.03 | TwistedEmotions | (EE) RADEON(0): MergedFB does not work with Option UseFBDev, MergedFB mode is disabled Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found (EE) No Input driver matching `synaptics' |
| 23:55.03 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=285086 |
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| 23:55.07 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: and sarge doesn't have gcc4 (as its default compiler, at least) so it doesn't have the problem |
| 23:55.25 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: and sarge alsa does not support amd64 |
| 23:55.33 | valdyn | s/alsa/also |
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| 23:56.41 | klync | eliteforce: you need to have a daemon bound to the port *listening* for an incoming connection, and nothing blocking in iptables, /etc/hosts.deny, or any other firewalling system.... and your user needs privileges to bind to a port <1024... other than that, they're not locked in any way |
| 23:56.46 | Lanix | can somne one tell me the comand for seen the partitions ? |
| 23:57.06 | valdyn | Lanix: df -a or cat /proc/partitions |
| 23:58.06 | Lanix | thx |
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| 23:58.54 | xelam | fdisk -l |
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| 23:59.00 | xelam | (doesn't always work) |
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| 23:59.20 | lolhun | hi |
| 23:59.21 | Abysmal | eveing all.. could someone help me getting swat installed?? |
| 23:59.22 | lolhun | plz |
| 23:59.24 | lolhun | help me |
| 23:59.30 | lolhun | i have a knoppix linnux |
| 23:59.33 | lolhun | linux |
| 23:59.36 | Wyzard | lolhun: #knoppix |
| 23:59.42 | fbi | lolhun: /part; /j #knoppix |
