| 00:00.00 | oKtosiTe | shad0wcat: we don't need that |
| 00:00.05 | gravity | lur: Did you check fresmeat and google? |
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| 00:00.09 | shad0wcat | lur: well in this case you may have to |
| 00:00.10 | lur | I googled |
| 00:00.20 | mhall | lur: try converting it with ultraiso run in wine |
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| 00:00.26 | deus_ | Shouldnt the new intrid.img replacce the old one? why do i have to change the location in lilo.conf |
| 00:00.39 | shad0wcat | deus_: upgrade to grub |
| 00:00.42 | shad0wcat | lilo is a pain |
| 00:00.45 | lur | but I doubt the converters will let it boot on the dreamcast |
| 00:00.54 | shad0wcat | dreamcast? |
| 00:01.00 | shad0wcat | you're asking how to burn warez in a linux channel? |
| 00:01.02 | lur | yup |
| 00:01.03 | shad0wcat | wonderful |
| 00:01.05 | lur | no |
| 00:01.08 | lur | not warez |
| 00:01.11 | lur | homebrew |
| 00:01.17 | antgel | shad0wcat: read the channel in between your ranting :) |
| 00:01.18 | Mjelva | anyone here know what i need in order to extract a rar archive? |
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| 00:01.28 | shad0wcat | Mjelva: rar and unrar |
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| 00:01.30 | dondelelcaro | lur: *shrug*; ask for the image as an iso instead. |
| 00:01.33 | mhall | antgel: i'm not sure it's possible |
| 00:01.36 | shad0wcat | someone already posted that for you ages ago |
| 00:01.40 | mhall | antgel: he pretty much fills it with the ranting |
| 00:01.41 | Mjelva | shad0wcat- i searched for those using apt. no game. |
| 00:01.41 | lur | guess I'll have to do that |
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| 00:01.51 | bumpsh3r | Mjelva: rar for linux |
| 00:01.52 | shad0wcat | !tell Mjelva about rar |
| 00:01.58 | shad0wcat | !tell Mjelva about unrar |
| 00:02.06 | shad0wcat | read and follow those instructions |
| 00:02.08 | gravity | Mjelva: Do you have non-free in your sources.list? |
| 00:02.09 | mhall | antgel: i wish i knew why people used such proprietary disc formats when raw bin/cue works |
| 00:02.25 | Mjelva | gravity - might not. what do i add? |
| 00:02.30 | dondelelcaro | hell, an iso+md5sum works fine. |
| 00:02.31 | lur | shad0wcat, you really are not much of a help. I asked a legitimate question, and all you can do is misunderstand and insist I am brainless n00b here to annoy you? |
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| 00:02.37 | mebsd | what's a good irc proxy server |
| 00:02.37 | gravity | Mjelva: I think apt-setup will help you with it |
| 00:02.45 | gravity | Mjelva: If not, I'll put it in a pastebin for you |
| 00:02.48 | dondelelcaro | lur: that's not helpful either. |
| 00:02.53 | shad0wcat | lur: it's as simple as "you will probably need windows for this" |
| 00:02.56 | antgel | mhall: i wish i knew why people bothered to burn homebrew games when there are millions in the shops etc |
| 00:03.09 | gravity | lur shad0wcat Both of you please stop arguing. Ok? |
| 00:03.15 | gravity | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.17 | Tomze | gravity, i think unrar is from the nerim repos ? |
| 00:03.23 | shad0wcat | gravity: last line was just informative |
| 00:03.24 | gravity | Tomze: No, it's in non-free iirc |
| 00:03.29 | antgel | unrar is in non-free |
| 00:03.33 | oKtosiTe | shad0wcat: here's a nice joint, and some shiny marbles, go enjoy yourself and we'll see you again in about fifteen minutes? |
| 00:03.45 | lur | will alcohol 120% run under WINE? |
| 00:03.46 | antgel | *sigh* |
| 00:03.52 | gravity | lur: It's worth a try I suppose |
| 00:03.55 | dondelelcaro | lur: dunno; try it, or ask in #wine. |
| 00:03.57 | Mjelva | gravity - i just need the name of the source :( |
| 00:03.57 | antgel | lur: here's an idea. try it. |
| 00:03.58 | gravity | Weird-ass windows apps |
| 00:04.00 | shad0wcat | lur: you can try |
| 00:04.01 | lur | oh but it won't install... |
| 00:04.14 | lur | bah |
| 00:04.14 | shad0wcat | Alcohol 120% asks you for a serial |
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| 00:04.25 | shad0wcat | along with a shitload of other stuff |
| 00:04.25 | lur | trial |
| 00:04.32 | antgel | lur: perhaps you should install nethack |
| 00:04.34 | gravity | Mjelva: Just add "non-free" to your main Debian repo |
| 00:04.38 | lur | damned incompatibility |
| 00:04.46 | lur | what is nethack? |
| 00:04.48 | gravity | Mjelva: You should add "contrib" on there too if it's not there |
| 00:04.49 | deus_ | damn...what is 2.2.20-compact? |
| 00:04.51 | Mjelva | gravity - wot? don't i need an address to add to sources.list? |
| 00:04.54 | gravity | lur: A wonderful game |
| 00:05.08 | gravity | Mjelva: Nope, it's at the same location as your debian archive |
| 00:05.10 | dondelelcaro | deus_: that's ancient. There's no reason to be using that kernel at all. |
| 00:05.11 | gravity | Just a different dir |
| 00:05.20 | Mjelva | by the way, guys, The Smashing Pumpkins - The Everlasting Gaze pwns |
| 00:05.29 | Mjelva | if you're not already listening to this song, do so now. or ninjas will get you. |
| 00:05.35 | thingfish | smashing pumpkins were ok... |
| 00:05.37 | shad0wcat | dondelelcaro: he upgraded from woody to sarge |
| 00:05.37 | deus_ | dondelelcaro: i know, it just installed a newer version |
| 00:05.38 | gravity | I hate the pumpkins |
| 00:05.44 | shad0wcat | I think half his libraries are mangled |
| 00:05.44 | Guerin | bah, SP lost the plot in the mid-90s |
| 00:05.46 | deus_ | but according to uname -a its still there |
| 00:05.47 | simy | can sombody point me to an easy howto for bridging, i would just like an easy to read/understand howto/walkthrough |
| 00:05.58 | thingfish | I'll listen to their stuff but I wouldn't ever buy their albums. |
| 00:05.59 | antgel | Mjelva: 1. it's way ot. 2. they were a good band until they stopped being a band. :) |
| 00:06.00 | shad0wcat | simy: I would say google |
| 00:06.06 | shad0wcat | deus_: you have to reboot int oa new kernel |
| 00:06.11 | shad0wcat | into* |
| 00:06.14 | deus_ | shad0wcat: sokah |
| 00:06.15 | Mjelva | antgel - <3 |
| 00:06.16 | dondelelcaro | simy: the easy howto is on lartc; the even easier method is to apt-get install dnsmasq; |
| 00:06.22 | thingfish | my roommate is on a big emerson lake and palmer kick right now... |
| 00:06.23 | antgel | Guerin: you got that right |
| 00:06.37 | simy | shad0wcat: ok ill use apt-cache show |
| 00:06.40 | Mjelva | gravity - i ran apt-setup, and it just asked me which build to use (testing), and which country to grab files from. |
| 00:06.56 | shad0wcat | hmm |
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| 00:07.03 | Firestarter2 | what is a good cd burning software for debian? |
| 00:07.07 | gravity | Mjelva: Ok, just add contrib and non-free to the end of the debian repo line in your sources.list. Right after main. |
| 00:07.17 | simy | Firestarter2: cdrecord |
| 00:07.21 | shad0wcat | gravity: I doubt he understands what you're talking about |
| 00:07.21 | gravity | Firestarter2: I like graveman for gnome, and k3b is outstanding for KDE |
| 00:07.22 | thingfish | k3b, Firestarter2, or gnomebaker if you're on testing or above. |
| 00:07.23 | antgel | thingfish: ah, now ELP isn't OT imo. but they do suck considering how big their reputation is. i can listen to the title track of tarkus but not much else |
| 00:07.27 | dondelelcaro | Firestarter2: cdrecord+mkisofs; if you need it, there are a dozen frontends to them. |
| 00:07.33 | gravity | shad0wcat: If he doesn't then I'll clarify when he asks |
| 00:07.52 | shad0wcat | he's been asking for the last 30 min :/ |
| 00:07.53 | antgel | Firestarter2: cdrecord it you have half a clue |
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| 00:07.56 | gravity | I couldn't get gnomebaker to work right, but graveman worked well |
| 00:08.09 | shad0wcat | personally I use k3b |
| 00:08.14 | shad0wcat | but that's because I use kde |
| 00:08.16 | shad0wcat | exclusively |
| 00:08.17 | thingfish | hehe antgel I understand. I preferred Yes. But I still liked ELP for their massive moog. |
| 00:08.17 | gravity | k3b is excellent |
| 00:08.27 | gravity | arson used to be amazing but it fell behind |
| 00:08.40 | antgel | shad0wcat: kde? i thought you were an uber-geek |
| 00:08.49 | gravity | uber geeks can use KDE. Why not? |
| 00:08.54 | shad0wcat | antgel: I use fluxbox in school |
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| 00:09.03 | shad0wcat | but that's because our old solaris machines can't handle anything else |
| 00:09.03 | antgel | thingfish: i prefer yes too. only up until going for the one |
| 00:09.12 | deus_ | *wah* kernel panic! |
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| 00:09.26 | shad0wcat | deus_: I told you it wouldn't work |
| 00:09.29 | thingfish | oh definitely, antgel. After Relayer...meh. |
| 00:09.35 | shad0wcat | a clean install would have saved you a lot of trouble |
| 00:09.36 | antgel | shad0wcat: you're on irc during school? when i was at school i was getting blowjobs in my spare time |
| 00:09.42 | deus_ | :( |
| 00:09.51 | shad0wcat | antgel: it's 1 am here damnit |
| 00:09.56 | shad0wcat | you're in the wrong timezone |
| 00:10.07 | deus_ | *ANNOYED* bah, fuck it i can buy cd's tomorrow |
| 00:10.11 | deus_ | DAMN this is annoying |
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| 00:10.55 | deus_ | didnt the intrid.img get selected |
| 00:11.01 | shad0wcat | sigh |
| 00:11.02 | antgel | shad0wcat: don't worry. i'm just secretly bitter that i'm not still at school |
| 00:11.05 | Mjelva | gravity - thanks a bunch, gravity |
| 00:11.07 | deus_ | i thought the installation did that for me |
| 00:11.13 | gravity | Mjelva: It's working for you? Glad to hear it. |
| 00:11.26 | antgel | thingfish: you might like to check out spock's beard and especially transatlantic |
| 00:11.29 | shad0wcat | deus_: save yourself some brain cells and do a clean install of sarge |
| 00:11.40 | gravity | And as a side note, I'm running my very first build of libx11 from the modular X tree. |
| 00:11.48 | antgel | !beer gravity |
| 00:11.56 | gravity | Yay progress! |
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| 00:11.59 | thingfish | antgel: ok, will do. |
| 00:12.00 | cddesjar | !sid |
| 00:12.00 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 00:12.09 | cddesjar | sid is cool |
| 00:12.09 | thingfish | !bourbon and coke me |
| 00:12.21 | cddesjar | !whisky thingfish |
| 00:12.25 | cddesjar | !whiskey thingfish |
| 00:12.30 | thingfish | no it's not, nothing is cool 'sept for sarge. |
| 00:12.34 | antgel | !botabuse |
| 00:12.34 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
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| 00:12.42 | mama_soap | Hello :) I am wondering if someone could please help me with this Kile installation that I'm trying to get through... |
| 00:12.45 | shad0wcat | !factinfo botabuse |
| 00:12.45 | dpkg | botabuse -- last modified at Mon Aug 11 06:29:26 2003 by simonrvn!simon@nuit.ca; it has been requested 264 times, last by antgel, 11s ago. |
| 00:12.46 | cddesjar | i like the !!!!11!! |
| 00:12.47 | cddesjar | part |
| 00:12.48 | shad0wcat | hmm.... |
| 00:12.56 | deus_ | *uses the woody cd as a frisbee* |
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| 00:13.16 | Mjelva | exactly how big is the bot's dictionary? |
| 00:13.20 | Mjelva | it seems pretty extensive. |
| 00:13.23 | shad0wcat | !status |
| 00:13.23 | dpkg | Since Thu Nov 3 22:52:57 2005, there have been 2 modifications, 1259 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 377 commands. I have been awake for 3d 1h 20m 26s this session, and currently reference 26450 factoids. I'm using about 15524 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 536.78/28.08 child 0.01/0.03 |
| 00:13.24 | dondelelcaro | Mjelva: ~27k |
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| 00:13.25 | cddesjar | shad0wcat: can we tell who has requested botabuse the most? |
| 00:13.38 | Mjelva | !moron |
| 00:13.38 | dpkg | somebody said moron was someone that types long lines starting with "dpkg", or a person whose brain needs to be on more |
| 00:13.40 | shad0wcat | don't think so |
| 00:13.41 | antgel | when the apocalypse is nigh, can we release sid? |
| 00:13.45 | dondelelcaro | cddesjar: no, that information isn't stored. |
| 00:13.46 | Mjelva | !status |
| 00:13.46 | dpkg | Since Thu Nov 3 22:52:57 2005, there have been 2 modifications, 1260 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 377 commands. I have been awake for 3d 1h 20m 49s this session, and currently reference 26450 factoids. I'm using about 15524 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 536.9/28.09 child 0.01/0.03 |
| 00:13.52 | Mjelva | still no morons :( |
| 00:13.55 | shad0wcat | Mjelva: stop abusing the bot |
| 00:13.57 | antgel | Mjelva: please msg the bot |
| 00:14.02 | cddesjar | dpkg Mjelva |
| 00:14.02 | deus_ | antgel: it will be release the same time as duke nukem forever |
| 00:14.15 | gravity | We never release sid |
| 00:14.17 | deus_ | *well that was the oldest joke in the book* |
| 00:14.22 | antgel | deus_: dreamcast homebrew version |
| 00:14.23 | gravity | It doesn't make sense to do so |
| 00:14.31 | cddesjar | who said sid was being released |
| 00:14.32 | mama_soap | Doing ./configure gives me: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! Erm... I am sure my paths are okay, what am I doing wrong? |
| 00:14.47 | deus_ | probably made more sense with sarge then |
| 00:14.50 | antgel | this is how rumours start. slashdot is but a whisker away |
| 00:15.06 | antgel | gravity: i'm not expecting the apocalypse anytime soon |
| 00:15.10 | dondelelcaro | mama_soap: you probably don't have xlibs-dev installed; what exactly are you trying to build? |
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| 00:15.22 | trym | ive downloaded a module source using apt-get.. how do I compile the module ? |
| 00:15.24 | gravity | mama_soap: Try installing libx11-dev |
| 00:15.24 | sidiot | sid is definitely functional if you're willing to read, learn, and install apt-listbugs |
| 00:15.29 | mama_soap | I am trying to build a latex front-end called Kile. |
| 00:15.34 | gravity | God... not more of xlibs-dev |
| 00:15.35 | shad0wcat | sidiot: agreed |
| 00:15.36 | christia1 | has anyone gotten nvsound (nforce audio driver) running in Debian? |
| 00:15.37 | gravity | It's going away |
| 00:15.37 | gravity | Soon |
| 00:15.39 | shad0wcat | but otherwise, don't run it |
| 00:15.49 | gravity | The sooner people stop using the sooner I can kill it and save teh werld |
| 00:15.50 | mama_soap | libx11-dev? Right, I'll try that... thank you! :) |
| 00:15.51 | dondelelcaro | mama_soap: just apt-get install kile; |
| 00:15.54 | shad0wcat | christia1: yep |
| 00:15.55 | antgel | trym: you read the package docs |
| 00:16.00 | sidiot | sidiot: i run sid and i'm not too smart but i can read and am willing to listen to bug reports |
| 00:16.07 | trym | antgel: i skimmed through it.. nothing about compiling |
| 00:16.14 | mhall | sidiot: hehe |
| 00:16.21 | antgel | trym: nothing in /usr/share/doc? |
| 00:16.24 | chealer | christia1: why do you want nvsound? |
| 00:16.32 | christia1 | shad0wcat: did you have a howto or any docs? I can't get it working with the nvidia docs. I can get nvmixer to identify the device, but no apps do |
| 00:16.37 | dondelelcaro | gravity: but it's convenient when you're telling people to install all of the x headers... |
| 00:16.37 | sidiot | sid is the only thing that keeps me from going to ubuntu |
| 00:16.38 | christia1 | chealer: I want 5.1 etc. |
| 00:16.39 | Toolah | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.44 | mama_soap | Oh no... my Sarge DVD isn't working right, I've just downloaded the Kile tar.bz file from their official website. |
| 00:16.51 | shad0wcat | christia1: download the installer from nvidia.com |
| 00:16.53 | gravity | dondelelcaro: True, but it is going away so people shouldn't be relying on it |
| 00:16.53 | trym | antgel: dont think so.. |
| 00:16.56 | shad0wcat | follow the docs |
| 00:16.58 | gravity | dondelelcaro: It's already dead in experimental |
| 00:17.00 | shad0wcat | then run alsa-config |
| 00:17.05 | sidiot | alsaconf |
| 00:17.11 | shad0wcat | ya alsaconf |
| 00:17.12 | christia1 | shad0wcat: its an oss driver though |
| 00:17.19 | Subvertir | hey, those aren't marbles, they're taterhole beads |
| 00:17.25 | Subvertir | and this isn't weed, either! |
| 00:17.26 | dondelelcaro | gravity: packages shouldn't... but then again it's a pain to go through exactly which headers need to be installed for random people building stuff. |
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| 00:17.35 | shad0wcat | it works here |
| 00:17.38 | antgel | Toolah: do an aptitude dist-upgrade to make sure you're on sarge, then aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8<whatever your arch is> |
| 00:17.40 | shad0wcat | KDE picks it up just fine |
| 00:17.46 | dondelelcaro | mama_soap: I don't know if it's in sarge, but it is in unstable, and should be in testing. |
| 00:17.46 | gravity | dondelelcaro: True, but the problem is that for debian development it puts extra load on buildds |
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| 00:17.49 | shad0wcat | not sure about gnome |
| 00:17.49 | antgel | trym: so you didn't read the package docs then |
| 00:18.02 | dondelelcaro | gravity: right; I agree that packages that depend on them should be shot. |
| 00:18.07 | oKtosiTe | Subvertir: lol |
| 00:18.24 | Toolah | antgel, um, can't get eth0 to work, whole problem is I can't do any of that |
| 00:18.31 | dondelelcaro | this is like packages which depend on transitive dependencies... |
| 00:18.32 | gravity | dondelelcaro: Yeah, so the only way to get rid of that problem is to actually get rid of the package. There's like 500 packages that still build-dep on them. Well over 200 at least if the 500 figure is wrong. |
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| 00:18.36 | gravity | Yeah |
| 00:18.38 | antgel | Toolah: then reboot to your working kernel |
| 00:18.40 | mama_soap | Hmm... I'll try to get hold of the lib files from somewhere. Thanks a ton for the help :) |
| 00:18.43 | Andy837 | how can i set up debian to be a nameserver? |
| 00:18.44 | sidizen | is kde3.5 beta in experimental? |
| 00:18.53 | antgel | Andy837: install a nameserver |
| 00:19.04 | antgel | sidizen: p.d.i |
| 00:19.04 | sidizen | !kde3.5 |
| 00:19.06 | shad0wcat | antgel: that should be reboot and pray |
| 00:19.10 | antgel | sidizen: p.d.i |
| 00:19.11 | dondelelcaro | mama_soap: you don't need them; just install kile or get a backport of it. |
| 00:19.12 | sidizen | pdi? |
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| 00:19.14 | antgel | FFS |
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| 00:19.21 | Firestarter2 | I created a connection using pppconfig to connect to the internet with my cell phone. But it asks me for a username and password and I don't need one. Is there a way to tell it to not use a username and password. |
| 00:19.28 | antgel | sidizen: i meant p.d.o. packages.debian.org |
| 00:19.32 | Andy837 | antgel: how? |
| 00:19.37 | antgel | antgel> sidizen: i meant p.d.o. packages.debian.org |
| 00:19.42 | sidizen | ok |
| 00:19.42 | antgel | grr |
| 00:19.44 | mama_soap | Oh I see... so basically you're asking me to a apt-get, right? |
| 00:19.49 | antgel | sorry all am having a mare |
| 00:20.18 | antgel | Andy837: do you know what a nameserver is and why you need to install one? |
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| 00:20.33 | Andy837 | yeh cause my boss told me to! LOL |
| 00:20.57 | dos000 | anyone know where i can get .config file for kernel 2.6.14 |
| 00:21.04 | gravity | geez |
| 00:21.10 | bob2 | dos000: /boot |
| 00:21.11 | gravity | Andy837: I think you need to do some googling |
| 00:21.19 | Toolah | antgel, lilo does not come up with a menu at the beginning - how do I select? |
| 00:21.23 | antgel | Andy837: then i suggest you get a book on linux, a book on ip, and /msg dpkg unix lessons. you may wish to /msg dpkg lol as well |
| 00:21.40 | antgel | Toolah: it should have a menu if you installed both kernels. |
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| 00:21.44 | dos000 | bob2, /boot only has 2.4 . |
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| 00:22.48 | bob2 | dos000: then install a 2.6.14 Debian kernel |
| 00:23.06 | antgel | Toolah: do you see the lilo screen at all, even with just one kernel choice? |
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| 00:23.26 | trym | antel: sure did.. its a source as I said.. so everything is extracted to /usr/src/modules/ etc |
| 00:23.40 | sidizen | can you use knoppix to rescue lilo or just grub? |
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| 00:23.52 | Blissex | sidizen: both |
| 00:23.57 | antgel | unix lessons is still my favourite factoid. the new debian reference will just be that factoid, expanded on :) |
| 00:23.58 | dos000 | bob2, thanks |
| 00:23.59 | mhall | is there a command in gdb to reload the binary and restart debugging so you don't lose all your bp's |
| 00:24.00 | MrSeb | hi... someone can explain to me possibly solutions about ipsec and connection that work from A to B and not from B to A? |
| 00:24.10 | Firestarter2 | anyone here use ftape |
| 00:24.13 | sidizen | Toolah: use knoppix to rescue lilo |
| 00:24.24 | antgel | trym: make-kpkg --append-to-version=<whatever> modules_image |
| 00:24.32 | trym | just to give away a few more details.. Im trying to compile lufs |
| 00:24.41 | antgel | MrSeb: openswan? |
| 00:24.42 | trym | thanks Ill try |
| 00:24.52 | mhall | antgel: (9) is not true for X output |
| 00:25.05 | MrSeb | antgel: no, kernel 2.6.14 and setkey, only AH |
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| 00:25.27 | antgel | mhall: how so? |
| 00:25.32 | sidizen | anyone have a clue when gnome 2.12 might make it to sid? |
| 00:25.51 | Guerin | sidizen: sometime between now and 2006 |
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| 00:26.09 | sidizen | ok...well that's better than what i expected for an answer :) |
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| 00:26.11 | Wyzard | sidizen: After the transition of 2.10 to testing is complete |
| 00:26.11 | gravity | sidizen: It's fully installable in experimental apparently, so it seems to be waiting on the Ok from the release team |
| 00:26.15 | antgel | MrSeb: 2.6.14 isn't in debian. i refuse to use the 2.6 ipsec stack. hence i can't help, sorry |
| 00:26.16 | phiner | hello all |
| 00:26.24 | Wyzard | sidizen: which is mostly, but not entirely, done |
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| 00:26.30 | antgel | phiner: hello dr nick |
| 00:26.38 | phiner | :) |
| 00:26.39 | sidizen | 2.6.14 is in sid |
| 00:26.40 | Guerin | 2.6.14 is so too in debian |
| 00:26.41 | Wyzard | antgel: 2.6.14 is in unstable |
| 00:26.42 | MrSeb | thanks anyway antgel, i've compiled it from source |
| 00:27.02 | Epix | Hello. Im trying to get phpBB2 to work. I apt-got it and i apt-got phpbb2-conf-mysql and it made my conf file for phpBB. I can access my forum, but i dont have a user! There is no install folder, which is what the manual says to use. Help! |
| 00:27.07 | sidizen | i beat you guys to it |
| 00:27.09 | antgel | i tend to mean stable when i say debian at times. you all know what i meant ;) |
| 00:27.19 | sidizen | i am running 2.6.14 right now |
| 00:27.20 | MrSeb | Wyzard: it's new stable for kernel.org |
| 00:27.23 | Guerin | antgel: clearly not, since three of us corrected you |
| 00:27.29 | antgel | MrSeb> Wyzard: it's new stable for kernel.org |
| 00:27.33 | antgel | ffs |
| 00:27.36 | antgel | sorry again |
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| 00:27.43 | Wyzard | MrSeb: I know |
| 00:27.43 | Guerin | antgel: you're not sorry enough |
| 00:27.46 | Guerin | be sorrier! |
| 00:28.02 | sidizen | !hit antgel |
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| 00:28.14 | gravity | heh |
| 00:28.15 | Epix | Any help? :P |
| 00:28.28 | antgel | Guerin: clearly all three of you are pedants ;) |
| 00:28.29 | gravity | Epix: You may want to ask in #php |
| 00:28.39 | mhall | antgel: people always think it's no screens found |
| 00:28.46 | Epix | gravity: but, its the debian specific installer for phpBB |
| 00:28.51 | mhall | antgel: but the error is caused by stuff totally elsewhere in the output |
| 00:28.54 | Guerin | Epix: nothing in /etc/phpbb or /usr/share/phbb ? |
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| 00:29.00 | Joe7Dice | hi |
| 00:29.10 | antgel | mhall: things earlier in the output, no? |
| 00:29.14 | Epix | Guerin: yes, everything is in both of those! The thing is, i dont have a user to login with! |
| 00:29.19 | sidizen | !kick sidizen |
| 00:29.19 | jvw | Epix: /usr/share/doc/phpbb2 |
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| 00:29.29 | menace | if $(SOURCE) is "./foo1.c ./bar/foo2.c" shouldn't $($(SOURCE) %.c=%.o) convert the entries to "./foo1.o ./bar/foo2.o"? |
| 00:29.29 | Guerin | Epix: dpkg -L phpbb2|grep -i install |
| 00:29.40 | jvw | Epix: it's in the README.Debian |
| 00:29.49 | Guerin | that makes sense too |
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| 00:30.53 | Subvertir | http://images.themaxx.com/mirror.php/offensive/images/picpile/%5Btmbar%5D_cam-fu.jpg |
| 00:30.55 | Subvertir | I love this |
| 00:31.45 | Joe7Dice | is it normal to have 30/40% io-wait on cpusage diagram of Munin if the almost only usage is a 20mbit/sec transfer to a ide hdd which is other than the main system (root/var) one? |
| 00:31.48 | Subvertir | PREPARE FOR KODAKOH MOMMMMENT |
| 00:31.56 | sidizen | Subvertir: hmm... |
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| 00:32.17 | antgel | Subvertir: are you having a narcotic moment? |
| 00:32.40 | Epix | !hit Epix |
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| 00:33.25 | palmax | Hello! |
| 00:33.33 | Jamsi | How can I see how many files are in a folder |
| 00:33.39 | antgel | Joe7Dice: based on the infor given, i would have to say... maye |
| 00:33.49 | palmax | I want to reconfigure /etc/manpath.config, how can I do that? |
| 00:33.52 | Jamsi | Wyzard, found the prob with that sendmail prob. Thousands of files in the mqueue =\ |
| 00:33.54 | efaistos | Jamsi, ls | wc -l |
| 00:34.03 | Wyzard | Jamsi: aha |
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| 00:34.17 | thingfish | I would expect most narcotic moments to be in lower case. Probably meth instead. |
| 00:34.25 | Subvertir | yeah dawg |
| 00:34.28 | Subvertir | I gots dat ice |
| 00:34.34 | wuming | my computer takes a long time to looking up web addresses, but another computer access internet through my sarge has no problem |
| 00:34.36 | Subvertir | cept instead of smoking a foil I ate one |
| 00:34.39 | wuming | how come? |
| 00:34.40 | MrSeb | bye |
| 00:34.43 | Joe7Dice | antgel what else do you need to know? :) |
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| 00:34.49 | Jamsi | proxy:/var/spool/mqueue# ls | wc -l |
| 00:34.50 | Jamsi | 203535 |
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| 00:35.23 | Jamsi | proxy:/var/spool/mqueue# rm -rf * |
| 00:35.24 | Jamsi | -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long |
| 00:35.28 | shai | hi, i did 'mv *tar *t' by mistake and it's like everything disappeared.. do you know where it is? |
| 00:35.41 | Wyzard | Jamsi: find . -type f | xargs rm -f |
| 00:35.54 | antgel | Joe7Dice: oh, whatever you tell me, i don't have the system knowledge to give a more accurate answer. one thing i do know is don't worry about numbers |
| 00:36.07 | palmax | wuming, can you have a slow dns? |
| 00:36.11 | palmax | :D |
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| 00:36.32 | Joe7Dice | antgel anyway that slowed down the system a lot :/ |
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| 00:36.48 | sidizen | does anyone know that gentoo bug website? |
| 00:36.52 | MickLinux | hmmm... I've tried man, info, also looked unsuccessfully for a sword-users mailing list . Does anyone know much about sword, especially the group commentary? |
| 00:36.55 | shai | nevermind, found it |
| 00:37.03 | Wyzard | sidizen: Wouldn't #gentoo be the place to ask about that? |
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| 00:37.08 | sidizen | no |
| 00:37.16 | sidizen | because the bot makes fun of it |
| 00:37.28 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | hi guys, one small, stupid question :) how to start *.deb from konsole ?! |
| 00:37.33 | Wyzard | sidizen: Oh, you're not talking about the Gentoo BTS |
| 00:37.37 | sidizen | yes! |
| 00:37.40 | bob2 | AuReUs_ReCtoR: dpkg -i blah.deb |
| 00:37.47 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | bob2, tnx. |
| 00:37.49 | sidizen | the one where the guy is going f-ing fast |
| 00:37.52 | palmax | How can I regenerate /etc/manpath.config |
| 00:38.06 | Wyzard | sidizen: haven't heard of it, sorry |
| 00:38.20 | sidizen | hmm...i'll have to find it |
| 00:38.30 | wuming | palmax: but another winxp access internet through this sarge has no slow dns problem |
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| 00:38.52 | Wyzard | wuming: Maybe the Windows box is using a different DNS server |
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| 00:39.23 | ken | i just installed debian sarge on my laptop, but im not hearing any sound, can anyone help a noob out please? |
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| 00:39.33 | Jamsi | Wyzard, would you know why my mail queue has over 203 thousand emails? |
| 00:39.39 | sidizen | here's the bug report |
| 00:39.41 | sidizen | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072 |
| 00:39.42 | Wyzard | Jamsi: no idea, sorry |
| 00:39.44 | Jamsi | Wyzard, dating back 6months |
| 00:39.47 | sidizen | it's so funny |
| 00:39.48 | jbroome | spammer |
| 00:39.50 | Guerin | ken: what card, what kernel? |
| 00:39.53 | palmax | wuming, I dont know how can be the problem |
| 00:39.55 | Jamsi | Looks like its not removing them from the queue folder |
| 00:39.58 | sidizen | warp zero comments are great |
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| 00:40.19 | Wyzard | Jamsi: Take a look at their contents... are they real mail, or messages from some broken daemon or something? |
| 00:40.28 | ows | someone used looking glass? |
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| 00:40.48 | wuming | Wyzard:how can I tell sarge to use which DNS> |
| 00:40.58 | sidizen | i love that bug report...it's my favorite ever! |
| 00:41.07 | mama_soap | Hello - er... again :) I'm now trying to install .deb files, and I am following the official manual, but repeatedly get this error: unable to open files list file for package `psmisc': Input/output error - cany anyone help with this? |
| 00:41.17 | FuzzplugJones | what's the right way to tell debian i want apache2 to start on bootup? |
| 00:41.21 | bob2 | mama_soap: your hard disk is failing |
| 00:41.29 | bob2 | mama_soap: and has already suffered large amounts of corruption |
| 00:41.38 | The_Vulture | FuzzplugJones: Install apache2, done. |
| 00:41.40 | Wyzard | wuming: /etc/resolv.conf... but if your router is getting its IP via DHCP that normally sets the DNS servers for you |
| 00:41.53 | Jamsi | Wyzard, its all spam and virus |
| 00:42.02 | Jamsi | generated by Spamassasin or otherweise. |
| 00:42.03 | mama_soap | Phew... ok, now I at least know it's a hard disk problem... is there any 'standard' way to rectify this? |
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| 00:42.12 | Wyzard | Jamsi: Sounds like maybe you've been running an open relay... |
| 00:42.15 | bob2 | mama_soap: replace the disk |
| 00:42.24 | Wyzard | Jamsi: Your server shouldn't have even accepted those messages |
| 00:42.27 | bob2 | mama_soap: it's possibly but unlikely that powering down and replugging everything might fix it |
| 00:42.37 | palmax | wuming, do you kno how can I do for regen /etc/manpath.config |
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| 00:42.58 | mama_soap | Right... I think I will try replugging before I try replacing, because this is a relatively new hard disk... |
| 00:43.34 | Wyzard | mama_soap: If it's new, it's *more* likely to die than if it's been around for a while |
| 00:43.48 | mama_soap | I had FC on it earlier, and it gave all kinds of segmentation faults, now I've switched to Debian (clearly) and it was running fairly well till I couldn't install packages any more :( |
| 00:44.04 | sidizen | man debian is SO MUCH better than gentoo it's not quite funny |
| 00:44.08 | bob2 | mama_soap: segfaults can be a sign of disk corruption, too |
| 00:44.16 | dhuv | hello all, I need some bluetooth help, I am just starting out. I am running testing right now. |
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| 00:44.34 | mama_soap | Wyzard: Thanks... maybe I should get a replacement. I am sure even the warranty period isn't over ;) |
| 00:44.44 | Wyzard | sidizen: or something else, like bad RAM or a defective motherboard |
| 00:44.53 | wuming | palmax: i donot know |
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| 00:44.56 | tejing | mama_soap: what manufacturer is it? |
| 00:45.06 | Wyzard | mama_soap: Go to the manufacturer's website... they probably have a diagnostic tool you can download and run, which will do a thorough scan of the drive |
| 00:45.08 | wuming | Wyzard: is there any way to check the DNS currently used?> |
| 00:45.10 | mama_soap | bob2: Yes, I think I realized that segfaults can have a lot to do with the hard disk. |
| 00:45.14 | macadamia | Having trouble booting Debian. I am booting from floppies and then cd. The floppies recognize my old 2.6 debian cd but not 31r0a. It says that the disk is not a Debian disk. Can anyone help? |
| 00:45.37 | ken | can anyone help me with my sound, i keep trying to put the sound volume up but it goes right back down to zero :( |
| 00:45.38 | Wyzard | wuming: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:45.39 | bob2 | mama_soap: right |
| 00:46.02 | Wyzard | macadamia: Old floppies? |
| 00:46.07 | tejing | ken: when does it go back? all the time? when you reboot? |
| 00:46.13 | mama_soap | Wyzard: Right, I'll do that. Thanks for resolving this for me, I mean, I was thoroughly confused about what the problem is - this will really help. Thank you! |
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| 00:46.24 | wuming | Wyzard: i have serche and 192.168.0.1 it's my router's ip |
| 00:46.30 | Subvertir | http://70.85.26.55/pix/S/Smile4Massari.jpg <--- me and greycat |
| 00:46.41 | macadamia | Wyzard:No I downloaded all the floppies and the iso from Debian.org mirror yesterday |
| 00:46.55 | macadamia | Wyzard: They should be current |
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| 00:47.23 | Wyzard | macadamia: Are you installing on a system that doesn't support booting from CD? |
| 00:47.24 | Guerin | Subvertir: step away from the bong |
| 00:47.29 | Guerin | Subvertir: and the keyboard |
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| 00:47.53 | mama_soap | Cheers everyone, *rushes to get a new hard disk* thanks for the help and have a nice day :) |
| 00:48.17 | macadamia | Wyzard: It is a p3 800Mhz and it wont boot from cd but it will boot from floppy. I can read the old 26 cd but not the 31 |
| 00:48.18 | Subvertir | Guerin, you're gonna have to pick one man |
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| 00:48.40 | Guerin | Subvertir: keyboard |
| 00:48.47 | Wyzard | macadamia: A P3-era system should support CD booting just fine... I'm using an 800MHz Athlon system from around that same time |
| 00:48.58 | Wyzard | macadamia: You might need to enable it in the BIOS |
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| 00:49.31 | gravity | Wow, people still use chatzilla |
| 00:49.33 | gravity | That's cool I guess |
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| 00:49.42 | bob2 | hah |
| 00:49.44 | macadamia | Wyzard: Done the bios and disabled the hard drive but cannot disable the floppy and it tries to boot from floppy |
| 00:50.34 | Wyzard | macadamia: doesn't matter if it tries the floppy first if there's no floppy in the drive... as long as it tries the CD next |
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| 00:52.00 | macadamia | Wyzard: It wont boot from cd. I have to boot from floppy and use the cd-drivers boot img to load the cd. I am getting into the install up to load cd and it just wont go any further |
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| 00:52.28 | ken | i get the following error when i try to increase the volume "sorry no mixer/ and or deviices found" |
| 00:52.39 | Wyzard | macadamia: Well, it's been years since I've used a floppy to start an installation, but I'd be very surprised if the current Debian installation floppies were broken |
| 00:53.00 | Wyzard | macadamia: Maybe the CD was burned improperly or is defective? |
| 00:53.05 | ice_1963 | i get it to ken |
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| 00:53.43 | HEX_FALSE | whats up guys |
| 00:53.56 | macadamia | Wyzard: I burned cd using k3b in fedora and I have another cd from a friend who runs an ISP beihter will work |
| 00:54.02 | MickLinux | anyone know how to get help on my sword group-commentary? |
| 00:54.11 | macadamia | niether will work |
| 00:54.22 | Wyzard | macadamia: and you're sure it's install CD #1, and not one of the source CDs or something? |
| 00:54.33 | tejing | ken: that means the mixer program doesn't think you have a sound card |
| 00:54.46 | MickLinux | umm , up is generally considered to be the direction away from gravity, although within the computer sense it may refer to the directory in which the current directory is listed. |
| 00:54.47 | tejing | ken: are you using ALSA? |
| 00:55.02 | ice_1963 | need to know how to fix gnome volume in sid |
| 00:55.04 | MickLinux | Def of up to HEX_FALSE |
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| 00:55.36 | HEX_FALSE | sup mick |
| 00:55.43 | gravity | heh, that wasn't meant to trigger my nick highlite :-) |
| 00:55.43 | macadamia | Wyzard: Yes I'm sure. I got an error message that the driver disks were missing: ide-scsi ide-mod ide-probe-mod ide-generic |
| 00:56.02 | macadamia | Wyzard: Should I make custom boot disk? |
| 00:56.13 | tejing | ice_1963: are you using ALSA? |
| 00:56.17 | MickLinux | Hex_FALSE: Sup? Oh, nothing much. Why? (Except I'm looking for help with SWORD) |
| 00:56.26 | HEX_FALSE | what is sword? |
| 00:56.35 | gravity | bible program |
| 00:56.40 | HEX_FALSE | oh |
| 00:56.40 | ice_1963 | yes i am tejing |
| 00:56.42 | MickLinux | sword is the gnome version of Bible text/commentary. |
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| 00:56.45 | ken | a instrument of death |
| 00:56.49 | gravity | heh |
| 00:56.49 | HEX_FALSE | oh cool |
| 00:56.49 | Wyzard | macadamia: You mean the modules were missing, I assume... but if it eventually recognized one of the CDs, you know that they got loaded eventually |
| 00:57.21 | tejing | ice_1963: try running alsaconf to redetect your sound card. it looks like you have no alsa devices configured |
| 00:57.22 | MickLinux | My problem is that I want to add my own notes under the group commentary, but though I save them, they go into the ether. |
| 00:57.24 | HEX_FALSE | i guess i'm wondering what the difference is in the varieties of linux and the popularity of them and what freebsd has to do with all of that |
| 00:57.49 | HEX_FALSE | mick maybe check read only properties |
| 00:58.02 | gravity | Wow, that's a biiiig question |
| 00:58.08 | HEX_FALSE | i know |
| 00:58.12 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: The way to figure out the different distros is to try them. |
| 00:58.16 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: For a couple weeks each |
| 00:58.19 | HEX_FALSE | so which linux do i choose once i order my new hd? |
| 00:58.23 | MickLinux | FFFFFFFF: Thanks. Except that they should be filed into my home/MickLinux/.sword |
| 00:58.27 | macadamia | Wyzard: I will keep trying. Thanks for your help |
| 00:58.33 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: As for BSD, it's UNIX but not linux. Similar but different in some ways. |
| 00:58.42 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: Also worth trying if you're curious |
| 00:58.45 | HEX_FALSE | is it stronger? |
| 00:58.51 | gravity | "stronger"? |
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| 00:58.54 | gravity | What does that mean? |
| 00:58.56 | HEX_FALSE | better? |
| 00:59.06 | HEX_FALSE | i mean debian obviously has more users in this chat |
| 00:59.07 | Wyzard | macadamia: I'd try booting the CD on a different computer and going through the first few steps just to see whether it works |
| 00:59.08 | HEX_FALSE | why |
| 00:59.10 | HEX_FALSE | more popular? |
| 00:59.12 | HEX_FALSE | easier to use |
| 00:59.13 | MickLinux | It depends upon what you mean by better. For some apps, definitely. Like MacOS |
| 00:59.15 | HEX_FALSE | better software? |
| 00:59.16 | HEX_FALSE | what |
| 00:59.20 | gravity | Many reasons |
| 00:59.25 | Wyzard | macadamia: and if it does, try booting the floppies on that other computer |
| 00:59.26 | gravity | That's a big question but it comes down to personal preference |
| 00:59.31 | Yawgmoth | Well, I heard that BSD is not that good in multimedia stuff for instance. |
| 00:59.37 | gravity | And personal needs |
| 00:59.37 | MickLinux | It has a different licensing structure, which is important if you're a company. |
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| 00:59.43 | Yawgmoth | Well, just heard that. Dont know anything about it. =/ |
| 00:59.48 | gravity | For some people Debian fits their needs best. For others, they use other distros. |
| 00:59.51 | macadamia | Wyzard: Good call I have alaptop I want to do too. |
| 01:00.03 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: they all have strengths and weaknesses. debian, slackware, and I've heard gentoo also are a little less uyser-friendly, more power to your fingertips, redhat is pretty big on user-friendlyness... |
| 01:00.06 | HEX_FALSE | what is debian good for? |
| 01:00.06 | gravity | If you want some Debian strengths, /msg dpkg whydebian |
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| 01:00.09 | gravity | Or why debian |
| 01:00.12 | MickLinux | What I like about debian is the help structure... though that has gotten less effective in the last 5 years. |
| 01:00.13 | gravity | Don't remember which |
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| 01:00.39 | Wyzard | I like Debian for its infrastructure and long-term maintainability |
| 01:00.43 | MickLinux | No less fun, though. I still like the help structure. It just takes me longer to search out answers to my questions. |
| 01:00.57 | tejing | what I like best about debien is ap |
| 01:00.57 | Wyzard | I've had this system installed for five years, running unstable and dist-upgrading daily, and it's still running cleanly |
| 01:00.59 | tejing | apt* |
| 01:01.08 | Yawgmoth | I am running debian right now. Why? Because I liked the idea of being able to just do apt-cache search blabla and apt-get install blabla :D |
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| 01:01.20 | Yawgmoth | And it will download all dependencies and install them. |
| 01:01.29 | Yawgmoth | Thats the big part why I am running it at the moment. |
| 01:01.31 | tejing | yup :-) |
| 01:01.38 | MickLinux | If you want a real easy linux, I suggest knoppix-on-CD |
| 01:01.49 | Co3us | Is it possible to send an email from the command line? Or do you have to atleast connect to an SMTP server? |
| 01:01.50 | Wyzard | MickLinux: or the Ubuntu livecd |
| 01:01.56 | Tortel | or a real easy not-quite-linux, try ubuntu |
| 01:01.57 | Yawgmoth | I have Knoppix on HD in debian mode on another filesystem on that computer :o |
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| 01:02.00 | HEX_FALSE | does debian need to be compiled like gentoo and what is compilihng |
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| 01:02.08 | HEX_FALSE | is compiling the same as defragging in windows? |
| 01:02.09 | gravity | ubuntu is linux |
| 01:02.13 | Tortel | HEX_FALSE: no |
| 01:02.14 | tejing | ice_1963: any luck? |
| 01:02.16 | gravity | Why would it not be |
| 01:02.16 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: hehe, no |
| 01:02.20 | samuel | sup all |
| 01:02.21 | gravity | Oh man |
| 01:02.23 | Tortel | HEX_FALSE: Debian has an installer |
| 01:02.24 | MickLinux | Debian -- just buy a CD or DVD set, and install. That's easiest and best |
| 01:02.24 | HEX_FALSE | how come? |
| 01:02.37 | HEX_FALSE | cool mick |
| 01:02.45 | HEX_FALSE | does compusa have one, and how much? |
| 01:02.47 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: Compiling is the process of making an executable program out of the source code |
| 01:02.52 | Yawgmoth | HEX_FALSE: Compiling is the process of "converting" source code into binaries. |
| 01:02.53 | HEX_FALSE | oh wow |
| 01:02.56 | samuel | if i want a hostname instead of an ip address in my computer would i use the file /etc/hosts ? |
| 01:02.56 | MickLinux | For me, I don't like to download the CDs and then install, because my CD writer was a tad flakey |
| 01:03.03 | HEX_FALSE | gravity: it must run fast fully compiled |
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| 01:03.07 | tejing | Co3us: just type: mail foo@bar.com |
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| 01:03.10 | Yawgmoth | gravity's explanation is more elegant, take it. xD |
| 01:03.12 | gravity | ... |
| 01:03.15 | HEX_FALSE | gravity: what does one want to do then when changing the makeup of it? |
| 01:03.20 | Co3us | tejing: thanks |
| 01:03.21 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: What are you talking about? Any app you've ever run is compiled. |
| 01:03.21 | oKtosiTe | HEX_FALSE: compiling means translating from human-readable language to computer-readable language |
| 01:03.34 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: What do you mean? |
| 01:03.40 | gravity | And why do I feel like I'm being trolled? |
| 01:03.52 | Yawgmoth | Hehe. |
| 01:03.52 | Jamsi | lol |
| 01:03.52 | MickLinux | hmm... samuel: It looks to me like what you are talking about is having a host name for others across the internet. Is that what you want to do? |
| 01:04.09 | HEX_FALSE | oh so someone who does compiling is actually writing a program in the gentoo language? |
| 01:04.10 | MickLinux | samuel: or are you talking about having a hostname across an intranet (within your school)? |
| 01:04.13 | Tortel | HEX_FALSE: The process of makeing a program starts with caffiene, then programmer, then code, then compiling, then program |
| 01:04.19 | gravity | "gentoo language"? |
| 01:04.25 | HEX_FALSE | perl |
| 01:04.28 | gravity | wtf |
| 01:04.29 | HEX_FALSE | what is trolling |
| 01:04.36 | tejing | Tortel: lol |
| 01:04.38 | Tortel | :) |
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| 01:04.42 | gravity | Ok... I can't explain this |
| 01:04.44 | gravity | This is idiocy |
| 01:04.56 | samuel | MickLinux, no, i just want to type "server_one" on the address bar of firefox and have it go to 192.168.1.1 for example |
| 01:04.56 | mymayer | how to activete my build raid1 arrays after restart ? |
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| 01:05.00 | tejing | a programmer is a machine which turns caffiene into lines of code |
| 01:05.03 | Tortel | Welcome to the Earth gravity |
| 01:05.05 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: Short answer: if you're not a programmer, don't worry about it |
| 01:05.09 | Yawgmoth | Perl is not compiled. At least I have never heard of it ;P |
| 01:05.13 | asuffield | gravity: you're being nasty to users! |
| 01:05.21 | HEX_FALSE | Wyzard: hehe, thanks, i needed that |
| 01:05.24 | bd_ | Yawgmoth: Perl has a sort of bytecode-ish like system. |
| 01:05.31 | gravity | asuffield: Oh Gn03s! |
| 01:05.37 | bd_ | Somewhere between bytecode and a parse tree |
| 01:05.40 | HEX_FALSE | where can i buy debian? |
| 01:05.42 | tejing | Yawgmoth: there is actually a way to translate perl into C I think... |
| 01:05.50 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: Google will tell you |
| 01:05.54 | asuffield | Yawgmoth: perl has a 'compiler', but not in the traditional sense |
| 01:05.57 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: Google will tell you lots of these things |
| 01:06.03 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: I highly recommend using it |
| 01:06.05 | HEX_FALSE | what is the anti-virus program similar to norton for debian |
| 01:06.10 | MickLinux | samuel: you can do that just by saying "localhost" has your hostname. |
| 01:06.13 | Yawgmoth | Heh, I knew it ;) |
| 01:06.21 | ice_1963 | tejing i'm going to chang my sound card and see if that work's t/u |
| 01:06.22 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: you don't need one :-P |
| 01:06.22 | asuffield | you can't really translate perl into C or any other object code form |
| 01:06.39 | HEX_FALSE | tejing: what about hackers |
| 01:06.39 | asuffield | because the compile and execution process are interleaved - the compiler has to run while the program is running |
| 01:06.41 | [11aa] | are there viruses in debian? |
| 01:06.47 | HEX_FALSE | there are some viruses in debian |
| 01:06.49 | HEX_FALSE | there has to be |
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| 01:07.00 | MickLinux | samuel: But if you want more, especially across an intranet, you need a name server on your computer. Then for each computer in the intranet, select as the lowest level nameserver, your computer. |
| 01:07.04 | samuel | MickLinux, but for other computers? |
| 01:07.07 | Yawgmoth | asuffield: Well, theoretically one could do that. Just read it and think.. hmm.. how could this be translated to C? :D |
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| 01:07.25 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: hackers are stopped by firewalls, not anti-virus software |
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| 01:07.30 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: I can assure you the debian distribution does not contain viruses :P |
| 01:07.32 | [11aa] | well hackers is other thing |
| 01:07.34 | samuel | MickLinux, is there no way to make a local alias in my computer? |
| 01:07.35 | HEX_FALSE | and viruses or worms? |
| 01:07.44 | MickLinux | samuel: That's what the nameserver is for. I've installed one before, too. But that only works for intranet. |
| 01:07.53 | HEX_FALSE | there jsut aren't any? |
| 01:08.01 | Tortel | HEX_FALSE: Unless you install them |
| 01:08.09 | HEX_FALSE | haha |
| 01:08.12 | [11aa] | in debian you can log to other systems |
| 01:08.13 | HEX_FALSE | see thats what i mean |
| 01:08.17 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: A few exist, but they're extremely rare |
| 01:08.17 | MickLinux | samuel: Maybe there is: you could investigate it, but that's outside my realm. You might try setting a localhost name "myhost" in /etc/hosts. |
| 01:08.20 | HEX_FALSE | what if i accidentally intal a virus |
| 01:08.20 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: and since debian (along with most types of unix) have real permissions issues, viruses are a lot harder to make work |
| 01:08.22 | [11aa] | but viruses? |
| 01:08.23 | HEX_FALSE | or someone sends me one |
| 01:08.30 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: I've never heard of anyone actually encountering a Linux virus |
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| 01:08.40 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: they won't |
| 01:08.43 | HEX_FALSE | last guestion |
| 01:08.44 | gravity | They exist, but the holes that exploit them are generally patched fairly fast |
| 01:08.45 | HEX_FALSE | question |
| 01:08.45 | [11aa] | do you know the basics of the debian linux fs |
| 01:08.46 | HEX_FALSE | oops |
| 01:08.47 | mymayer | how to activete my build raid1 arrays after restart ? |
| 01:08.49 | HEX_FALSE | last question... |
| 01:08.50 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: linux viruses are very rare. There are a few but they haven't spread very well and you're very unlikely to actually see them. |
| 01:08.52 | samuel | MickLinux, thanks, ill look into it |
| 01:08.55 | MickLinux | samuel: if you want your computer accessible by hostname across the internet, you have to buy an appropriate fixed line from your ISP, and then also an official name. |
| 01:09.06 | HEX_FALSE | bd_: and if i do get one |
| 01:09.07 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: there are so close to none that it's not worth your time to worry |
| 01:09.12 | gravity | er... holes that are exploited by them |
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| 01:09.17 | HEX_FALSE | there isnt a norton-type program i can be runing to protect against them? |
| 01:09.23 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: You don't have to worry as much about someone "sending you" a virus because the software in Debian (and other Linux distributions) tends to be a bit more secure than programs like Outlook |
| 01:09.24 | MickLinux | samuel: If you're thinking of going public at some point, I'd go that route second, first trying it across intranet with nameserver. |
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| 01:09.28 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: clamav for linux if you really want to |
| 01:09.32 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: It's in Debian |
| 01:09.34 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: The tradeoff of performance for security is not worth it. |
| 01:09.36 | Heart_ | hi |
| 01:09.37 | MickLinux | That way you're not open to hackers before you're good and ready. |
| 01:09.39 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: yes, there is I think, forget what it's called tho |
| 01:09.40 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: All the email viruses you hear about are taking advantage of specific security flaws in Microsoft Outlook |
| 01:10.02 | HEX_FALSE | thank you gravity |
| 01:10.04 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: oh, yea. gravity has it. clamav |
| 01:10.04 | samuel | MickLinux, no, no public, just for me to save me remembering ip addresses, thanks! |
| 01:10.09 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: There are other things which take advantage of holes in Internet Explorer |
| 01:10.13 | bd_ | clamav isn't a live scanner note |
| 01:10.18 | bd_ | |
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| 01:10.38 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: You've probably heard of alternate software like Firefox and Thunderbird which doesn't have those flaws |
| 01:10.46 | HEX_FALSE | yes |
| 01:10.51 | [11aa] | a question where can i find the jigdo files for woody? i cant finb them |
| 01:10.57 | HEX_FALSE | clamav isn't a live scanner |
| 01:11.02 | HEX_FALSE | i want a live scanner |
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| 01:11.18 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: the only thing you should spend any time worrying about in linux is real live hackers spending time trying to get into your system, which they likely enough won't do cause it's so much easier to hack someone's windows pc |
| 01:11.31 | MickLinux | samuel: Then I'd still go with the nameserver, and the intranet, at best. But if you don't like that (it's a lot of work, perhaps) then try the etc/hosts bit. |
| 01:11.33 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: How about you google about linux security so you learn why people don't run such things |
| 01:11.34 | HEX_FALSE | sweet |
| 01:11.38 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: Those are open-source programs just like all the software in Debian, and it's generally much more secure |
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| 01:11.40 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: Nobody has seen the need to make one yet. Linux viruses are so rare in the real world you'd be wasting CPU to run a live scanner. |
| 01:11.49 | HEX_FALSE | but like tejing: its something i should worry about, it happens in windows all the time |
| 01:11.51 | samuel | MickLinux, thanks |
| 01:11.58 | HEX_FALSE | norton stops some crazy virus i download |
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| 01:12.11 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: That virus will do a whole lot of nothing on linux :P |
| 01:12.13 | MickLinux | So does anybody have info about SWORD / user group commentary? |
| 01:12.17 | delire | anyone here poked around with Beagle in a non-Gnome environment? |
| 01:12.25 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: it happens in windows all the time cause windows is about the most terribly put together program on the face of the earth |
| 01:12.30 | HEX_FALSE | bd_: unless its a linux virus |
| 01:12.54 | HEX_FALSE | tejing: you're saying the way debian and linux is built is so that a virus won't effect it? |
| 01:12.58 | bbrazil | HEX_FALSE: that would imply its in the kernel, at which point it too late |
| 01:13.11 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: Not entirely |
| 01:13.18 | mymayer | Wyzard : are you still stere ? Iam having big problems starting the device after restart |
| 01:13.22 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: In which case you just ran a random program off the internet and let it have the run of your system. Who is to say if a scannar will detect it? |
| 01:13.26 | Yawgmoth | Heh, imagine someone hacking Kernel.org and putting some virus kernel on it for some hours. |
| 01:13.34 | bd_ | Anyway, fact is, linux viruses are extremely rare. |
| 01:13.39 | HEX_FALSE | bd_ most scanners do |
| 01:13.43 | HEX_FALSE | it jsut be nicer |
| 01:13.44 | bd_ | And if you just get software off APT you'll be fine. |
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| 01:13.49 | HEX_FALSE | than loosing a whole system |
| 01:14.02 | HEX_FALSE | okay i'lll stop worrying about it |
| 01:14.04 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: Linux and open-source software in general is not fundamentally *immune* to viruses, but it isn't written with the "user convenience at the expense of security" attitude that much Windows software is |
| 01:14.04 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: I can make a malicious program in three minutes that no scanner will detect, because nobody has seen it before. |
| 01:14.16 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: basically, any windows virus (which is like 99.99% of them) will just die, cause it's not windows and the security holes it uses aren't there, and a virus specifically for linux (which I've never actually heard of) would have to be installed by someone, so protect against hackers, and you have no viruses |
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| 01:14.24 | Yawgmoth | You most likely wont lose a whole system to a virus, since on linux youre not going to use root for a casual user, are you?! |
| 01:14.36 | HEX_FALSE | bd_: but like windows, linux viruses will start to collect |
| 01:14.43 | HEX_FALSE | its better to have something than nothing |
| 01:14.48 | HEX_FALSE | there has to be something out there fo rit |
| 01:14.51 | HEX_FALSE | for it* |
| 01:14.54 | delire | at worst consuming everything in your ~/ |
| 01:14.54 | Yawgmoth | Well, if linux verusses would become a threat |
| 01:14.56 | Yawgmoth | Solutions will pop out. |
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| 01:14.59 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: if linux viruses start to show up in signifigant numbers I'm sure someone would write a scanner |
| 01:15.06 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: but really a scanner is a last line of defense |
| 01:15.08 | ApEtc | HEX_FALSE: smart users are the best defense |
| 01:15.15 | HEX_FALSE | yawgmoth: thanks |
| 01:15.17 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: The main thing is to not run random programs off the internet |
| 01:15.24 | bd_ | becuase it's so easy to write an evil program |
| 01:15.28 | Wyzard | mymayer: It should be getting started automatically at boot time, by the /etc/init.d/mdadm-raid script |
| 01:15.32 | bd_ | in any OS |
| 01:15.37 | [11aa] | the way linux is spreading somebody will create something someday |
| 01:15.45 | gravity | Linux viruses already exist |
| 01:15.46 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: they won't start to collect, for one reason: it's thousands of ytimes harder (at least) to write a linux virus, for the same reason it's a lot harder to attack a marines installment than it is to attack a tar-paper shack |
| 01:15.54 | HEX_FALSE | bd_: thanks, but it's gunna suck if my hd ever gets fully formatted by some unix program that i run |
| 01:15.55 | gravity | As do firefox exploits, and other fun itmes |
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| 01:16.01 | oKtosiTe | [11aa]: Linux is spreading? |
| 01:16.08 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: There are some protections - like, a program can't be run accidentally, you have to say "Yes, I want to make this executable" |
| 01:16.21 | mymayer | !tell mymayer about paste |
| 01:16.31 | HEX_FALSE | bd_: okay cool |
| 01:16.32 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: but mainly, if you run a random program off the net, scanner or no, you're giving that the run of your system, and it can do whatever it wants. |
| 01:16.33 | [11aa] | for example the study plans for universities in Mexico have linux as THE OS |
| 01:16.39 | HEX_FALSE | i'll jsut have to be extremely carefull |
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| 01:16.50 | phogg | HEX_FALSE: in that case never su root -c 'rm -rf /' |
| 01:16.51 | gravity | mymayer: /msg dpkg foo if you want to talk to the bot |
| 01:16.52 | mymayer | Wyzard : glad you are still there : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste check this |
| 01:16.56 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: Just don't run programs off random geocities sites and IM links ;) |
| 01:17.04 | HEX_FALSE | how do i add and remove programs in debian, or collect a list of installed programs? |
| 01:17.04 | [11aa] | Because it carries the development apps etc free |
| 01:17.05 | bd_ | Most of the stuff you'll need is in APT anyway |
| 01:17.12 | mymayer | gravity why you care ? thanks |
| 01:17.18 | Wyzard | mymayer: That link takes me to a submission page with a big empty text box |
| 01:17.23 | gravity | mymayer: It's a helpful hint to help keep channel noise down |
| 01:17.29 | Frankablu | Where can I put startup commands without using init scripts e.g. "echo 1 > /proc/sys/ip/ip_forward"? |
| 01:17.34 | phogg | HEX_FALSE: dpkg, various apt front ends |
| 01:17.38 | mymayer | Wyzard : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1050 |
| 01:17.38 | bd_ | HEX_FALSE: APT has a lot of programs you can install and remove easily. I use the `aptitude' console-based UI, there are some graphical versions available if you want to use those instead |
| 01:17.41 | mymayer | Wyzard sorry |
| 01:17.45 | HEX_FALSE | what is apt? |
| 01:17.49 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: Google. |
| 01:17.52 | HEX_FALSE | k |
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| 01:17.54 | gravity | HEX_FALSE: Google is your friend. |
| 01:18.00 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: that's all handled by a program called apt. but if you want a more user-friendly interface, use aptitude |
| 01:18.03 | Frankablu | HEX_FALSE: The debian package manager |
| 01:18.26 | Wyzard | mymayer: "/etc/init.d/mdadm-raid start" -- does that report any problems? |
| 01:18.38 | HEX_FALSE | apt = abstract package manager |
| 01:18.44 | oKtosiTe | HEX_FALSE: Sybaptic is nice too. |
| 01:18.47 | Wyzard | advanced, not abstract |
| 01:18.56 | Wyzard | Advanced Package Tool |
| 01:18.59 | HEX_FALSE | okay cool |
| 01:19.00 | mymayer | Wyzard it doenst report anything Wyzard |
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| 01:19.08 | HEX_FALSE | does debian auto-update? |
| 01:19.12 | oKtosiTe | HEX_FALSE: Synaptic even. |
| 01:19.16 | mymayer | Wyzard no error, no condirmation |
| 01:19.18 | Wyzard | mymayer: And does /proc/mdstat show your array now? |
| 01:19.22 | phogg | HEX_FALSE: you need to read some basic docs |
| 01:19.25 | oKtosiTe | HEX_FALSE: if you make it... |
| 01:19.29 | mymayer | Wyzard no |
| 01:19.40 | tejing | HEX_FALSE: it can, just add a cron job to be run every night to update it |
| 01:19.45 | HEX_FALSE | i'll make it because ill have a laptop connected to this chat room next to me |
| 01:19.51 | [11aa] | whats the debian help for mac? |
| 01:19.54 | bob2 | HEX_FALSE: no |
| 01:20.00 | bob2 | [11aa]: #debianppc? |
| 01:20.06 | bob2 | HEX_FALSE: (it does not autoupdate) |
| 01:20.12 | gravity | God, we must be being trolled |
| 01:20.31 | asuffield | I don't really care any more |
| 01:20.32 | HEX_FALSE | okay cool |
| 01:20.33 | HEX_FALSE | thanks |
| 01:20.33 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: Debian issues releases (roughly) every 18 months or so... each release has frequent updates to fix security issues as they're discovered, but new versions of programs aren't added to a release |
| 01:20.51 | Heart_ | where can i find a howto how to install spamassassin (postfix)? |
| 01:20.57 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: Updates aren't automatically installed by default, but it's not hard to configure your system to do that |
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| 01:21.00 | HEX_FALSE | Wyzard: so it needs to be re-installed everytime? |
| 01:21.02 | mymayer | Wyzard : after the restart i could mount md1 anymore, i tryied to start it, but it wont happen, so i try to -zero-superblock and create a new array on md0. he created it, i stopped it with : mdadm --stop /dev/md0 and tried to start it with : mdadm --run /dev/md0 but he brings me an error |
| 01:21.12 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: No, when a new release is made, you can upgrade without reinstalling |
| 01:21.23 | [11aa] | bob2: just asking cause they are all silent |
| 01:21.24 | HEX_FALSE | Wyzard: okay cool. |
| 01:21.29 | jablko | how to refresh the groups to which a user belongs, after updating /etc/group, without loging off & on again? |
| 01:21.33 | HEX_FALSE | now to pick which hard drive to install it on |
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| 01:21.41 | mymayer | Wyzard should i rebould them again ?= |
| 01:21.50 | dondelelcaro | jablko: you don't, basically. The method is to start another login shell, and use that. |
| 01:21.53 | bob2 | [11aa]: the debian-ppc@lists.d.o list might be a better try |
| 01:21.57 | HEX_FALSE | which is better a Sata-II drive with 8mb cache, or a Sata1 drive with 16mb cache? |
| 01:22.00 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: Debian's release policy is aimed at server-type systems where frequent releases and automatic updates are undesirable |
| 01:22.03 | bob2 | jablko: 'newgrp' claims to do that, but I've never seen it work |
| 01:22.03 | [11aa] | ok |
| 01:22.10 | phogg | HEX_FALSE: read a damn review |
| 01:22.12 | bob2 | jablko: another hacky option is to ssh to localhost |
| 01:22.20 | HEX_FALSE | phogg: where |
| 01:22.22 | bbrazil | bob2: I can verify newgrp |
| 01:22.26 | HEX_FALSE | phogg: what to google |
| 01:22.27 | phogg | HEX_FALSE: ask google |
| 01:22.30 | Subvertir | bob2, buy me a Z06 |
| 01:22.33 | HEX_FALSE | phogg: ask what |
| 01:22.42 | jablko | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 01:22.43 | dondelelcaro | HEX_FALSE: there were a bunch of harddrives reviewed recently; /. even covered it. |
| 01:22.43 | Wyzard | mymayer: Does /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf exist? |
| 01:22.47 | phogg | HEX_FALSE: paste your exact question into google. I'm sure it'll help. |
| 01:22.55 | jablko | bob2: k - i'll check it out - thanks |
| 01:22.58 | HEX_FALSE | phogg: cool |
| 01:23.13 | bob2 | Subvertir: buy me dinner |
| 01:23.16 | mymayer | Snake-Eyes: Wyzard : i just cleared the line : there was the old "md1" array listed |
| 01:23.39 | Wyzard | mymayer: Delete /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf if it exists |
| 01:23.40 | Subvertir | bob2, arby's good? |
| 01:23.47 | HEX_FALSE | nothing relevant came up |
| 01:23.59 | bob2 | Subvertir: do they make milkshakes with tequila? |
| 01:24.02 | mymayer | ok |
| 01:24.06 | Wyzard | mymayer: If it exists, the startup script will attempt to start any arrays it specifies... if it doesn't exist, it'll scan for the arrays instead, and find them automatically |
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| 01:24.11 | gravity | I could go for a milkshake with tequila |
| 01:24.13 | HEX_FALSE | phogg which is better? |
| 01:24.24 | HEX_FALSE | nothign right came up |
| 01:24.24 | phogg | HEX_FALSE: It really depends on you. |
| 01:24.32 | mymayer | sweethome:~# mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/hde12 |
| 01:24.32 | mymayer | sweethome:~# mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/hdg1 |
| 01:24.34 | Subvertir | Gentlemen, uncensored family guy at 8pm CST on Fox |
| 01:24.41 | HEX_FALSE | phogg: how? |
| 01:24.42 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: I would guess probably the drive with the bigger cache... SATA2's faster transfer rate isn't likely to make a big difference for most drives |
| 01:24.46 | mymayer | With that two lines i cleared the array Wyzard, or ? |
| 01:24.58 | FarrisG | Is ReiserFS worth the fuss? |
| 01:25.03 | mymayer | Wyzard so i can craete it form new ? |
| 01:25.06 | bob2 | Subvertir: new episode? |
| 01:25.12 | HEX_FALSE | Wyzard: it's all dependant on the cache isn't it? |
| 01:25.13 | Subvertir | I think so bob2 |
| 01:25.18 | bob2 | yay |
| 01:25.20 | Wyzard | mymayer: yes |
| 01:25.30 | FarrisG | That is, I've seen the benchmarks, what are the pros/cons of actually using it? Anyone here use it on a large, very-active RAID partition? |
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| 01:26.10 | Wyzard | FarrisG: I'd prefer to use XFS, but there's no way to shrink an XFS filesystem and that negates half the benefit of using LVM, so I use reiser instead |
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| 01:26.23 | Wyzard | FarrisG: It works fine for me though |
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| 01:26.43 | HEX_FALSE | dang come on guys |
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| 01:26.58 | HEX_FALSE | sata2 8mb cache or sata1 16mb cache |
| 01:27.11 | Tortel | for what? |
| 01:27.13 | Tortel | a HDD? |
| 01:27.14 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: You can try out a Debian-based Linux system without having to install anything on your hard drive... get the Ubuntu liveCD |
| 01:27.21 | HEX_FALSE | tortel: yes |
| 01:27.22 | RichiH | HEX_FALSE: does the 16 mb have NTQ? |
| 01:27.23 | Tortel | Or knoppix |
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| 01:27.57 | tejing | knoppix is great for un-scaring people |
| 01:27.59 | Wyzard | HEX_FALSE: (but please ignore Ubuntu's ugly brown visual theme... there's much better available) |
| 01:28.03 | RichiH | HEX_FALSE: if the sata1 has NTQ, i would definately go for sata1 |
| 01:28.45 | mymayer | mdadm: /dev/hde12 appears to contain an ext2fs file system |
| 01:28.46 | mymayer | size=3421812K mtime=Mon Nov 7 02:09:26 2005 |
| 01:28.48 | mymayer | mdadm: /dev/hdg1 appears to contain an ext2fs file system |
| 01:28.48 | Phoebe | I have a problem with ssh'ing into a system, $TERM=linux, and as a user I get a blank terminal when I issue commands like 'ps aux' or visudo. Any clues? |
| 01:28.49 | HEX_FALSE | RichiH: it has NCQ |
| 01:28.49 | mymayer | size=3421812K mtime=Mon Nov 7 02:09:26 2005 |
| 01:28.51 | mymayer | mdadm: largest drive (/dev/hdg1) exceed size (3421696K) by more than 1% |
| 01:28.51 | mymayer | !stop |
| 01:28.51 | dpkg | PLEASE STOP! |
| 01:28.52 | mymayer | Continue creating array? y |
| 01:28.53 | RichiH | HEX_FALSE: if it does not have it, i would probably still go for that. unless you will be accessing many files simultaniously and/or many small files which are distributed around the disk |
| 01:28.54 | mymayer | SRY |
| 01:28.56 | mymayer | damit |
| 01:29.09 | mymayer | iam sorry guys |
| 01:29.10 | RichiH | HEX_FALSE: /me would go for the 16 mb, then |
| 01:29.15 | mymayer | i wanted to post the pastebin URL |
| 01:29.17 | samuel | anyone know why this may be: i have a bluetooth connection set up and my bluetooth device can connect to this computer on PAN networking, but it seems as if there is no internet access on this computer... the device does state that the bluetooth service is available, the network over bluetooth, but im not sure where the problem may be, any ideas please? |
| 01:29.19 | RichiH | assuming the other specs are similar/the same |
| 01:29.22 | [11aa] | why do it report 2 processors on a pentium 4? |
| 01:29.30 | mymayer | Wyzard : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste is that ok |
| 01:29.36 | Wyzard | [11aa]: Hyperthreading, most likely |
| 01:29.45 | Subvertir | Hey guys, what TERM settings do you use with Putty to achieve sanity (del/backspace working properly, F1 etc working) |
| 01:29.46 | HEX_FALSE | The specs are exactly the same |
| 01:29.48 | bd_ | Is anyone else having problems with post-install of udev 0.072-2? |
| 01:29.53 | HEX_FALSE | one is sata1 with 16mb cache |
| 01:29.53 | RichiH | HEX_FALSE: well, then.. |
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| 01:29.56 | Wyzard | mymayer: wrong URL again... |
| 01:30.00 | HEX_FALSE | one is sata2 8mb |
| 01:30.10 | HEX_FALSE | sata1 16mb it is then... |
| 01:30.12 | HEX_FALSE | thank you. |
| 01:30.15 | mymayer | Wyzard : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1051 sorry iam getting tired... |
| 01:30.24 | RichiH | HEX_FALSE: unless your disk is about four times faster than anyhting on the market today, you will not be able to use up sata1 data rates, anyway ;) |
| 01:30.30 | loca|host | am a computer reseller, i provide debian sarge preinstalled computers, am seeking where to get a donation (free) stickers to put on my computers |
| 01:30.31 | mymayer | Wyzard : is the disk full ? |
| 01:30.55 | RichiH | HEX_FALSE: np |
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| 01:31.44 | Wyzard | mymayer: That's just telling you that /dev/hdg1 is a bit larger than /dev/hde12 |
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| 01:32.16 | mymayer | Wyzard : ok the raid has build as mdstat has said it |
| 01:32.24 | mymayer | Wyzard so now how to simi |
| 01:32.36 | mymayer | Wyzard simulate a system restart ? Stop the service ? |
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| 01:32.48 | Wyzard | mymayer: /etc/init.d/mdadm-raid stop; /etc/init.d/mdadm-raid start |
| 01:33.19 | mymayer | seems to work |
| 01:33.28 | loca|host | no one ? |
| 01:33.33 | mymayer | how can i automount this now, Wyzard |
| 01:33.45 | Wyzard | mymayer: You might want to stop it and check /proc/mdstat to make sure it's not listed there, and then start it again and check that it's back |
| 01:33.56 | Wyzard | mymayer: Just add a line for /dev/md0 to your /etc/fstab |
| 01:34.24 | mymayer | Wyzard : thats what i have done, if i stop the service, the devie still listed as active in the mdstat |
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| 01:35.16 | Wyzard | mymayer: aha... "/etc/init.d/mdadm-raid stop" actually doesn't do anything |
| 01:35.24 | Wyzard | mymayer: Use "mdadm --stop /dev/md0" |
| 01:35.26 | mymayer | Wyzard : should i "mdadm --stop /dev/md0" ? |
| 01:35.29 | mymayer | ok :) |
| 01:35.40 | samuel | anyone know why this may be: i have a bluetooth connection set up and my bluetooth device can connect to this computer on PAN networking, but it seems as if there is no internet access on this computer... the device does state that the bluetooth service is available, the network over bluetooth, but im not sure where the problem may be, any ideas please? |
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| 01:36.09 | mymayer | ok now its down, Wyzard |
| 01:36.15 | mymayer | what to do now ? |
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| 01:36.41 | Wyzard | mymayer: Start it again and see if it comes back |
| 01:36.58 | mymayer | so etc/mdadm-raid restart ?` |
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| 01:37.02 | mymayer | i mean start |
| 01:37.16 | Wyzard | mymayer: yes |
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| 01:37.30 | mymayer | sinope: still down |
| 01:37.42 | mymayer | ah! |
| 01:37.50 | mymayer | mrun /dev/md0 starts it |
| 01:37.56 | mymayer | mdrun |
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| 01:38.16 | Wyzard | mymayer: "/etc/init.d/mdadm start" runs mdrun for you |
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| 01:38.21 | mymayer | so the deamon start scripts are wrong / buggy ? |
| 01:38.40 | Wyzard | mymayer: Most likely, /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf exists |
| 01:38.48 | [11aa] | why will a system stop after making /dev/hda2 the root filesystem this is my first install on a mac oldworld |
| 01:39.06 | Wyzard | mymayer: If it exists, the initscript runs mdadm with options telling it to start the arrays named in that file |
| 01:39.27 | Wyzard | mymayer: If it doesn't exist, the initscript runs mdadm without any options, which makes it scan for available arrays |
| 01:39.31 | mymayer | ok so if i stop the array and run /etc/initd/mdamd start, its still down |
| 01:39.41 | mymayer | And this scan fails ? |
| 01:39.56 | Wyzard | mymayer: No, the scan isn't happening, because /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf exists |
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| 01:40.04 | Wyzard | mymayer: (Does it exist?) |
| 01:40.16 | mymayer | no |
| 01:40.26 | mymayer | only /etc/mdadm.conf |
| 01:40.40 | mymayer | and that one is empty |
| 01:40.50 | Wyzard | mymayer: That shouldn't exist either... delete that |
| 01:40.56 | mymayer | ok |
| 01:41.15 | Gnea | hrm |
| 01:41.23 | Gnea | [11aa]: it shouldn't |
| 01:41.23 | samuel | i think the problem has to do with no bluetooth network interface being created - bnep0 or the like, but how do i create it? |
| 01:41.39 | Gnea | samuel: load the right driver |
| 01:41.41 | nixuser | ok to ask a apache question in here? |
| 01:41.42 | mymayer | Wyzard : still both start scripts arent working |
| 01:41.49 | Gnea | !ask |
| 01:41.49 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 01:42.32 | Wyzard | mymayer: Does running "mdrun" by itself (no options) work? |
| 01:42.40 | mymayer | yes |
| 01:42.41 | mymayer | ah |
| 01:42.44 | mymayer | without option |
| 01:42.49 | samuel | Gnea, ??? |
| 01:42.51 | mymayer | one second (sorry for flood) |
| 01:43.04 | mymayer | Wyzard yes |
| 01:43.07 | [11aa] | Gnea i know that |
| 01:43.15 | mymayer | Wyzard it works without parameter |
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| 01:43.28 | Gnea | [11aa]: ah |
| 01:43.29 | [11aa] | I have debian on many pcs not on a mac |
| 01:43.42 | Wyzard | mymayer: "dpkg-reconfigure mdadm" and make sure you say yes when it asks whether you want to automatically start RAID devices |
| 01:43.46 | Gnea | i haven't installed on a mac |
| 01:43.52 | Wyzard | mymayer: otherwise the initscript does nothing |
| 01:43.55 | [11aa] | its hard |
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| 01:45.18 | [11aa] | the rom thing is different, on 5400 systems the debian cant boot from cd |
| 01:45.23 | mymayer | Wyzard : you were right, this was the problem |
| 01:45.57 | mymayer | so adding an : "/dev/md0 /mnt/dest" should do it in fstab ? |
| 01:46.12 | Wyzard | mymayer: What I did, btw, was read the initscript and notice that it only does anything if a variable called "AUTOSTART" is set |
| 01:46.20 | samuel | Gnea, what driver please? bluetooth connection works fine, there is a problem somewhere else |
| 01:46.27 | Wyzard | mymayer: and AUTOSTART is set in the file /etc/default/mdadm, which the initscript loads |
| 01:46.35 | mymayer | :) |
| 01:46.48 | Wyzard | mymayer: You could just edit that file directly, but I remembered (from using it on my own system) that debconf asks about that, so I recommeded using dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:47.08 | Wyzard | mymayer: (just to give you an example of an approach to troubleshooting this sort of problem) |
| 01:47.33 | mymayer | Wyzard : good procedure :) Iam just not used to shell script. Tought i should after 5 years cpp, but it isnt |
| 01:48.04 | Wyzard | mymayer: if [ "x$AUTOSTART" = "xtrue" ] ; then |
| 01:48.18 | dannyr | I have bee following a hotdo on install of postfix - I am at the stage on "Setting up Your TLS certificates" and after running "sudo ./CA.pl -newca" I get an error "10710:error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line:pem_lib.c:637:Expecting: TRUSTED CERTIFICATE" - I have searched the web and can not come up with an answer - if possible, please help! |
| 01:48.19 | Wyzard | mymayer: If you have programming experience in any language, I'm sure you can guess what that line does |
| 01:48.23 | mymayer | Wyzard : The problem in my case is a bit difficult : I dont now if i have a configuration or an installation error, so iam not able to get the error |
| 01:48.32 | mymayer | Sure, i just dont look there |
| 01:48.53 | sophacles | hi all. im using xcdroast to burn backups to a dvd, and after i do write-on-the-fly the files get put on the DVD as a giant audio track. what am i doing wrong? |
| 01:48.54 | Wyzard | mymayer: (except possibly for the reason why 'x' is used -- that's to avoid an error if $AUTOSTART is unset, since there'd be nothing on the left side) |
| 01:48.56 | mymayer | I just didnt suggested, that the startscript is the source |
| 01:49.39 | Wyzard | mymayer: Anyway, adding a line to /etc/fstab should be all you need now |
| 01:49.43 | mymayer | Wyzard : Thank you a lot, really. I hope i get into linux/debian deeper and deeper |
| 01:49.56 | Wyzard | mymayer: You're welcome |
| 01:50.14 | mymayer | Wyzard have a good night, iam leaving for bed now |
| 01:50.22 | sidizen | sophacles: are you burning it as an image? i.e. iso? |
| 01:50.24 | [11aa] | it hangs mounting the partition i did something wrong |
| 01:50.25 | Gnea | samuel: i'm not sure - might wanna check out a bluetooth howto |
| 01:50.37 | meff | whats the correct way to launch kde from .xinitrc, 'exec startkde' ? |
| 01:50.45 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: which version of openssl do you have installed? what CA.pl are you using? |
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| 01:52.14 | samuel | Gnea, thx - i have and im stumped - ill send something to the mailing lists when i figure out exactly what the problem is, that is my problem really |
| 01:52.15 | mymayer | Wyzard : Last thing. If i stop the array, then iam able to mount both partitions as normal ? Just if iam going to test it |
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| 01:52.36 | sophacles | sidizen, i belive so.when i click on the master and write on the fly button the tooltip says its making an iso9660 |
| 01:52.45 | Wyzard | mymayer: Don't do that |
| 01:53.02 | Wyzard | mymayer: You can if you absolutely need to, but it'll put the array out of sync |
| 01:53.03 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: dpkg -l openssl; I want to know which of the CA.pl's is being excuted; is it your own? or the copy in openssl? |
| 01:53.12 | mymayer | Wyzard : Just to "simulate" a crash |
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| 01:53.33 | Wyzard | mymayer: and when it resyncs, make sure you're absolutely sure which drive is going to be copied *from* and which is going to be copied *to*, or you could end up losing your changes |
| 01:53.33 | mymayer | Wyzard iam not going to change something, just look wheater data is "mirrored" on the partitions |
| 01:53.54 | Wyzard | mymayer: If you want to mount them for testing purposes, use "-o ro" when mounting |
| 01:54.08 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: ii openssl 0.9.7e-3 Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools |
| 01:54.13 | mymayer | Wyzard : just like one HDD crashed |
| 01:54.17 | mymayer | mount as readonly, ok |
| 01:54.29 | mymayer | ok, thank you for the advice. Have a nice day. Bye |
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| 01:59.39 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: Hope this helps for localtion of CA.pl "ns1:/usr/lib/ssl/misc# ls" |
| 01:59.42 | dannyr | CA.pl CA.sh c_hash c_info c_issuer c_name demoCA der_chop |
| 01:59.54 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: right, you're using openssl's CA.pl |
| 02:00.34 | gato | blz??? |
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| 02:01.11 | gato | alguem (de preverencia menina) para converssar? |
| 02:01.27 | Lanix | how do i reconfigure xzorg ? |
| 02:02.02 | gravity | !drxx |
| 02:02.02 | dpkg | drxx is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:02.21 | gato | porque? |
| 02:02.28 | gravity | !es |
| 02:02.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 02:03.25 | Lanix | thx |
| 02:03.54 | dannyr | dondelelcaro:How can this information help me find out why the CA.pl gives an error? |
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| 02:04.36 | chealer | !br |
| 02:04.36 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:04.45 | chealer | doh |
| 02:04.49 | gravity | dondelelcaro: How do I do a text substitution on a dpkg factoid? |
| 02:05.00 | gravity | I need to correct that drxx one |
| 02:05.20 | chealer | gravity: foo =~ s/bar/baz/ |
| 02:05.26 | gravity | Cool, thanks |
| 02:05.33 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: no, the purpose was so I could replicate what you were seeing. |
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| 02:05.55 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: thank you! |
| 02:06.05 | shai | whenever i tar up a directory that only has owner readability and then i give that tar to someone, will they be able to open it (since the permissions were only for me?) |
| 02:06.09 | gravity | !drxx |
| 02:06.09 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:06.11 | gravity | Much better |
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| 02:06.19 | ambrose | loca|host, see the third paragraph under "Donations of Money" |
| 02:06.59 | ambrose | loca|host, the only way for you to get what you want (free stickers) is to find some organization with money and a desire to help Debian and ask them to pay |
| 02:07.09 | Lanix | do i have to use xorg ?? |
| 02:07.13 | gravity | Lanix: No |
| 02:07.21 | gravity | Lanix: Unless you're running etch or sid |
| 02:07.25 | chealer | gravity: what about xorgconfig? |
| 02:07.26 | gravity | In which case, pretty much yeah |
| 02:07.36 | Lanix | why ? |
| 02:07.37 | ambrose | loca|host, but debian organization would probably prefer that organization gives Debian the money |
| 02:07.39 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: hrm... I'm not seeing that at all here; your best bet is probably to skip over that step for now and then create the ca and server key manually. |
| 02:08.02 | gravity | chealer: What about it? |
| 02:08.16 | gravity | Lanix: That's what is being shipped in etch and sid |
| 02:08.19 | ambrose | loca|host, rather than help you with your business expenses |
| 02:08.21 | chealer | gravity: the end of the factoid doesn't apply to X.org? |
| 02:08.23 | gravity | Lanix: Do you have a problem with Xorg? |
| 02:08.25 | gravity | chealer: No |
| 02:08.33 | gravity | chealer: That got disabled by Ubuntu and I kept it |
| 02:08.42 | gravity | The " |
| 02:08.44 | gravity | bleh |
| 02:08.45 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: this will make the CA cert for you: openssl req -new -nodes -x509 -keyout $CAKEY -out $CACERT -days 9000 |
| 02:08.47 | Lanix | no am just confy with the other one |
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| 02:09.05 | gravity | The "I refuse to change this config file if you altered it!" is crap. It just notifies you now that you have local changes and it's backing it up. |
| 02:09.16 | gravity | Lanix: "the other one"? XFree86? |
| 02:09.17 | ambrose | loca|host, here's that url: http://www.debian.org/donations |
| 02:09.22 | gravity | Lanix: They're very close to the same thing. |
| 02:09.23 | chealer | gravity: I didn't know that, sounds good |
| 02:09.24 | Lanix | yes |
| 02:09.51 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: you can then sign the different keys that you are using with that... |
| 02:09.55 | gravity | Lanix: I don't think you'll notice a difference between xorg and xfree86, except for the config file name |
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| 02:09.59 | gravity | Yet |
| 02:10.05 | Lanix | ok |
| 02:10.07 | Lanix | :-) |
| 02:10.09 | Lanix | thx |
| 02:10.12 | gravity | No problem |
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| 02:10.18 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 02:10.19 | chealer | !xmd5 |
| 02:10.19 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
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| 02:10.36 | gravity | chealer: Keep it around. It still applies to sarge. |
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| 02:11.16 | chealer | dpkg: xmd5 =~ s#X#XFree86# |
| 02:11.17 | dpkg | chealer: OK |
| 02:11.24 | chealer | gravity: that's OK? |
| 02:11.29 | gravity | No it's fine |
| 02:11.31 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: I did this some time ago in my initial Debian install. |
| 02:11.36 | gravity | Unless you really want to. |
| 02:11.42 | gravity | I guess that'd be more accurate |
| 02:11.58 | gravity | Actually, yeah. Go for it. |
| 02:12.47 | chealer | gravity: is there still something I should go for? |
| 02:12.51 | gravity | Just call me Mr. Indecisive :-) |
| 02:12.54 | gravity | chealer: Not that I'm aware of |
| 02:13.10 | chealer | ok, just wasn't sure about you said |
| 02:13.14 | chealer | waht you said |
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| 02:13.30 | gravity | Yeah, your s/X/XFree86/ thing is fine |
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| 02:14.03 | chealer | gravity: oh... # isn't a simulated/commented replacement :) |
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| 02:14.08 | gravity | Ah :-) |
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| 02:15.08 | chealer | it's to avoid the slashes in the factoid to confuse blootbot |
| 02:15.52 | gravity | gotcha |
| 02:16.32 | sandman | I'm looking for someone particularly savvy with dchroot please |
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| 02:17.39 | cheal | sandman: just go for your question |
| 02:17.46 | sandman | cheal: I'll get banned |
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| 02:17.52 | gravity | uh |
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| 02:18.09 | Jacky | Morning,every one |
| 02:18.23 | ambrose | sandman, paste to rafb.net (or whatever it is) and refer to it in your question |
| 02:18.28 | sandman | It involves dchrooting to a gentoo chroot. I was threatened last time |
| 02:18.34 | cheal | sandman: you weren't banned the last time you mentionned gentoo chroots, were you? |
| 02:18.35 | sandman | By some ops |
| 02:18.55 | gravity | Not this shit again |
| 02:19.05 | sandman | Forget it |
| 02:19.09 | gravity | Setting up a chroot in debian is within bounds. Setting up gentoo within the chroot is out of bounds |
| 02:19.13 | gravity | Is that ok? |
| 02:19.17 | cheal | and you don't have to suggest someone to use a gentoo chroot on this channel to ask a question about a gentoo chroot on this channel |
| 02:19.19 | gravity | So if you just want to set up the chroot, you can ask about that |
| 02:19.52 | sandman | I just want to setup the chroot |
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| 02:20.25 | sandman | It works with chroot, but not dchroot -d |
| 02:20.33 | gravity | Setting up a chroot should be pretty simple. You can use debootstrap to set up a basic one with debian |
| 02:20.34 | sandman | dchroot -d is what I need to work |
| 02:20.42 | gravity | I assume you could overwrite it with whatever gentoo stuff you want |
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| 02:21.06 | kb1_kanobe | g'day all. |
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| 02:21.58 | kb1_kanobe | Is there an easy way to Marvell Hercules-II SATA driver support in Sarge, or do I need to patch&build? |
| 02:22.35 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: the next instructions are to create the "server cert" with ./CA.pl -newreq-nodes / this works ok |
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| 02:22.51 | sandman | I'm aware of how to setup chroots. But dchroot -d -c gentoo gives this error: /bin/bash: <user running dchroot>: No such file or directory |
| 02:23.09 | sandman | Replace <> with root, any of my nonroot users.. it's weird |
| 02:23.22 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: next instruction is to "sudo ./CA.pl -sign" - this fails? |
| 02:25.00 | dannyr | I am then instructed to copy the newcert.pem and the newreq.pem into /etc/postfix/ssl - there is no newcert.pem and I cannot locate one - do I need this file or can it be created with the openssl command? |
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| 02:26.29 | Wyzard | yum is packaged in Debian now? |
| 02:26.31 | Wyzard | interesting |
| 02:26.34 | roral | openssl can be used to make certificates, yes |
| 02:26.38 | gravity | Wyzard: I was wondering that too |
| 02:27.48 | FarrisG | Are there any decent F/OSS alternatives to NFS? Not that NFS isn't f/oss, but I'm looking for something a bit more robust, stable, secure. |
| 02:28.17 | roral | dannyr: You may find http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/req.html#EXAMPLES useful if you want to make your own certificates. |
| 02:28.47 | dannyr | roral: Thank you |
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| 02:30.47 | resiak | FarrisG: smb, shfs? |
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| 02:34.27 | dshot | Hmm, here's something I'm having trouble with: You know the tree style that regedit has and a lot of web menus, etc.. + for collapsed, - for expanded... are there any tools for generating an textual representation of that ( looks like the Perl module Text::Tree might not be quite it ). |
| 02:34.42 | dshot | just having trouble defining what it is to search correctly for what I need |
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| 02:38.29 | dli | openpbs is not not debian? what are the alternatives? |
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| 02:43.09 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: the newcert.pem and crt files should have been created by the key creation step |
| 02:43.31 | dondelelcaro | openssl req -nodes -new -keyout newkey.pem -out newkey.req -days 9000; should create the .req and .pem |
| 02:43.45 | Sebo | tar x <<EOF |
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| 02:44.05 | Sebo | sory :/ |
| 02:44.13 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: the next bit is slightly more complex; let me stick on on the paste bot |
| 02:44.40 | ryanium | we need sex bot :| |
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| 02:45.08 | ke6isf | ryanium: WHy? Debian is better than sex! |
| 02:45.11 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1052 |
| 02:45.41 | ryanium | damn man, who are you having sex with? lol |
| 02:45.47 | ryanium | they are doing something wrong |
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| 02:46.07 | dondelelcaro | please take that conversation elsewhere... |
| 02:46.53 | fbi | i just noticed my woody install is pulling security packages from the stable branch, is this bad? it's hanging up at: Replacing available packages info, using var/cache/apt//available. |
| 02:47.29 | dondelelcaro | fbi: yes, that would be a problem. You probably want to upgrade to stable, or change your sources.list to woody instead of stable. |
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| 02:48.07 | fbi | sarge won't install, and this is happening during woody base-config |
| 02:48.15 | fbi | this box has extremely old hardware |
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| 02:48.34 | loca|host | is everybody getting this : semaphore is not ready [0x1][0x700300] repeated lines when viewing dmesg ? cause i've got sarge on my laptop and workstation and it's the same |
| 02:48.36 | fbi | should i rerun base-config and skip security packages? |
| 02:48.50 | sidiot | you can still get woody to install? |
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| 02:49.20 | fbi | yes, on a pentium 166 with 12mb ram heh |
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| 02:49.25 | dvs | doh! |
| 02:49.47 | fbi | i'm building this piece of crap so i can admin my sarge server while in the garage |
| 02:49.49 | sidiot | what's up dvs? |
| 02:50.00 | dvs | nuthin much |
| 02:50.41 | lealgus | whats the newbie channel please?? |
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| 02:50.50 | ke6isf | lealgus: Right here. |
| 02:50.53 | gravity | lealgus: This would more or less be it |
| 02:50.55 | lealgus | well |
| 02:51.18 | lealgus-newbie | ok |
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| 02:51.41 | lealgus-newbie | i dunno anythin about networkin sorry but i wanna know |
| 02:51.56 | lealgus-newbie | in a transparent proxy config |
| 02:52.23 | lealgus-newbie | must the proxy be the gateway too? |
| 02:52.36 | ke6isf | !tell lealgus-newbie -about enter |
| 02:52.44 | dannyr | dondelelcaro: Thank you - I pasted the script into a su terminal - I don't really know what it did, but there were no errors! |
| 02:52.46 | gravity | Dude, leave him be |
| 02:53.17 | sidiot | !punch ke6isf |
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| 02:53.24 | lealgus-newbie | its ok |
| 02:54.14 | dondelelcaro | dannyr: you needed to change some bits of it... |
| 02:54.52 | Bac9 | what is available to replace gstreamer0.8-jack? I just noticed it got dropped from debian |
| 02:55.16 | maniaco | hi guys, someone speak spanish? |
| 02:55.24 | ke6isf | !tell maniaco -about es |
| 02:55.34 | lealgus-newbie | maniaco, yo |
| 02:55.48 | [11aa] | !es |
| 02:55.48 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 02:55.52 | maniaco | ok thx ke6isf |
| 02:56.06 | ke6isf | maniaco: No problemo. =^^= |
| 02:56.15 | dannyr | Is that in the first line " openssl req -nodes -new -keyout newkey.pem -out newkey.req -days 9000 " ? or in the past/1052? |
| 02:56.17 | dannyr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:57.52 | Jacky | How can I configure my Debian's net card? |
| 02:58.01 | lealgus-newbie | bye ppl |
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| 02:58.12 | dvs | Jacky: How do you want it configured? |
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| 02:58.37 | Jacky | In my /dev, no eth0, How to deal with it? |
| 02:58.54 | dvs | Jacky: It's not suppose to be there |
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| 02:59.34 | dvs | Jacky: You have to load the kernel module for your specific network card. |
| 02:59.37 | Jacky | dvs: When I install the debian, I choose configure net card later. |
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| 03:00.02 | dvs | Phew! |
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| 03:00.32 | Jacky | dvs: all my debian run norally, but no network |
| 03:00.44 | dli | jackcharkas, lspci | grep Network |
| 03:00.58 | dli | Jacky: lspci | grep Network |
| 03:01.00 | dvs | Jacky: lspci | grep Eth |
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| 03:01.16 | dvs | oh? I guess network would work too. ;-) |
| 03:01.29 | dli | dvs: hehe, try both |
| 03:01.51 | Jacky | Ok, Thanks, I'll try. |
| 03:02.04 | dvs | Network didn't work for me. |
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| 03:04.32 | dli | dvs: I think "Network" works for wireless only |
| 03:04.40 | dvs | Ah! I see |
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| 03:05.56 | enveezee | grep -i net |
| 03:06.26 | enveezee | would do both |
| 03:06.35 | dvs | !beer enveezee |
| 03:06.50 | Jamsi | Is it safe to delete the contents of /var/spool/squid/* ? |
| 03:06.55 | itp560 | is there pf like firewall thingy in Linux ? |
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| 03:08.02 | Loof | What would cause IDE DMA to be disabled: "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted"? |
| 03:08.16 | bob2 | Loof: did you just boot 2.6.4? |
| 03:08.20 | enveezee | itp560: iptables |
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| 03:09.15 | itp560 | but I can't do openup a perticular ip address by just ssh in to the fiewall |
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| 03:09.57 | Loof | bob2: 2.6.14 |
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| 03:10.18 | bob2 | Loof: saw someone else complain about that the other day |
| 03:10.23 | Loof | I'm pretty sure it was working before... It's just odd |
| 03:10.28 | Loof | Any idea what caused it? |
| 03:10.31 | bob2 | Loof: (I think) it means the kernel no longer supports dma on your chipset |
| 03:10.32 | Loof | Or fixed it :) |
| 03:10.45 | bob2 | Loof: filing a bug and using 2.6.13 until it's fixed is all I can suggest |
| 03:10.53 | Loof | piix4 |
| 03:10.56 | Loof | unlikely |
| 03:11.04 | Loof | .13 doesn't work well for me |
| 03:11.07 | Loof | I was on .11 until .14 cameout |
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| 03:11.35 | enveezee | I'm still on a patched 2.6.8 |
| 03:11.44 | bob2 | ouchy |
| 03:11.59 | enveezee | ? |
| 03:12.00 | bob2 | tho, 2.6.8 had more reliable suspend than anything later |
| 03:12.01 | Loof | cat /proc/ide/ide0/model says generic |
| 03:12.15 | bob2 | hmmm |
| 03:12.20 | enveezee | 2.6.8 is still current in sarge afaik |
| 03:12.27 | bob2 | maybe it's as simple as piix not being in the initrd |
| 03:12.27 | Loof | anything before .11 didn't support my SCSI card |
| 03:12.27 | astronut | gwhat's a yellow highlight mean in netwatch? |
| 03:12.40 | bob2 | Loof: can you check that? |
| 03:12.47 | Loof | astronut: You have to wind your netwatch |
| 03:12.56 | astronut | Loof: funny |
| 03:12.57 | enveezee | astronut: never heard of netwatch, but everyone knows yellow highlight is universal for RTFM |
| 03:13.00 | Loof | bob2: Can I check what? |
| 03:13.07 | Loof | ooh ok ok |
| 03:13.10 | Loof | I missed it :) |
| 03:13.10 | bob2 | Loof: if it's in the initrd/initramfs |
| 03:13.21 | bob2 | Loof: tho, I' not exactly sure how to do that |
| 03:13.29 | bob2 | I think the initrd is a gzip's filesystem, tho |
| 03:14.05 | astronut | enveezee: Pattern not found (press RETURN) |
| 03:14.21 | enveezee | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:15.29 | Loof | PIIX is there. |
| 03:15.38 | Loof | gzip isn't a filesystem :) |
| 03:15.51 | Loof | older initrd is cramfs |
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| 03:16.06 | bob2 | oh, I mean, I thought it gzip'd a filesystem image |
| 03:16.07 | Loof | mount -o loop -t cramfs <initrd_filename> <path> |
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| 03:16.18 | Loof | the new ones are cpio |
| 03:16.21 | Gokee2 | O great! "Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVDIE X driver not found)"... |
| 03:16.29 | Loof | gunzip -dc <initrd_filename> | cpio -i |
| 03:16.30 | bob2 | oh, dang |
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| 03:16.47 | Gokee2 | dpkg, nvidia |
| 03:16.48 | dpkg | well, nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 03:16.52 | Loof | piix is also loaded |
| 03:17.15 | bob2 | loaded or in the initrd? if it's loaded after ide_generic, then it'd not get used, right? |
| 03:17.52 | m4lu7 | hmm i come in late to conversation... i'm guessing kernel panic. vfs unable to mount foot fs, right? |
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| 03:18.28 | Loof | Well, it's in initrd... dunno if it was loaded then |
| 03:18.45 | Loof | m4lu7: Me? No, unable to turn on DMA... |
| 03:19.00 | Loof | It is loaded now, but I'm not sure... |
| 03:19.13 | Loof | IDE isn't my boot... so I could unload ide and try again |
| 03:19.13 | Loof | heh |
| 03:19.14 | bob2 | Loof: does dmesg show anything about the generic module loading early on? |
| 03:19.48 | m4lu7 | Ahh |
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| 03:21.06 | Loof | In both is shows the same thing |
| 03:21.23 | Loof | (my prior boot, which was fine I'm %100 sure... under .11 and the current under .14) |
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| 03:23.25 | Loof | ICH4: port 0x01f0 already claimed by ide0 |
| 03:23.25 | Loof | ICH4: port 0x0170 already claimed by ide1 |
| 03:23.26 | Loof | ICH4: neither IDE port enabled (BIOS) |
| 03:23.28 | Loof | That's different |
| 03:23.35 | FuzzplugJones | what's the proper Debian way (if any) to install rules du jour for SpamAssassin? It's not in apt, and I understand it's just a script, but i'd rather do stuff with real debian packages than make a bunch of changes by hand. |
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| 03:24.21 | kenboo | uh ICH4.. |
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| 03:24.46 | kenboo | i had problem with ICH6 |
| 03:25.15 | Loof | It won't let it be removed. |
| 03:25.22 | Loof | kenboo: Which were? |
| 03:25.37 | kenboo | couldn't get dma working |
| 03:25.39 | secher | Having a problem. HD decided to go haywire, and after the fsck, several of the programs don't work properly. is there a way to check the validity and correctness of all packages and reinstall those which are corrupt? |
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| 03:26.40 | Loof | kenboo: How'd you resolve it? |
| 03:27.12 | kenboo | i think i removed some drivers from initrd, and loaded them later. my primary drive is SATA, so i didn't need ide at boot time. (tho i think ide still works in PIO mode) |
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| 03:31.16 | ambroseL | what program can I call from the command line to display a text message? |
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| 03:31.32 | kenboo | write? |
| 03:31.38 | ambroseL | in a gui window |
| 03:31.40 | Phated | cat? |
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| 03:31.43 | Phated | xmessage. |
| 03:31.45 | dvs | ambrose: more or less |
| 03:31.50 | ambroseL | thanks phated |
| 03:31.54 | Phated | No problem. |
| 03:31.55 | paroneayea | ambrose: echo? :) |
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| 03:32.03 | enveezee | prrrs |
| 03:32.19 | paroneayea | exit |
| 03:32.22 | paroneayea | dazmit :( |
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| 03:32.45 | ambroseL | ug... xmessage did what I wanted... but ... it wasn't pretty: xmessage `cowsay 'hi'` :-) |
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| 03:33.00 | enveezee | ambroseL: zenity |
| 03:33.01 | dvs | !exit |
| 03:33.01 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
| 03:33.14 | dvs | I love that one too |
| 03:33.17 | ambroseL | then again, maybe "cowsay" and "pretty" don't go together :-)... will try zenity |
| 03:33.26 | enveezee | ~person |
| 03:33.27 | apt | [person] like a bot, but squishier, or a meat popscicle |
| 03:33.37 | dos000 | are there procedure to folow to upgarde to kernel 2.6.14 from the default sarge 2.4 install ? i tried doing it manul kernel compile and i got a kernel panic |
| 03:34.00 | bob2 | are you using sarge? |
| 03:34.33 | dvs | dos000: You either didn't make an initrd or didn't remove initrd from lilo.conf or menu.lst |
| 03:34.34 | dos000 | bob2, yes ??? i did a netinstall . this is for the server box in frnt of me |
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| 03:35.04 | dos000 | dvs, i did make initrd after the compile |
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| 03:35.15 | bob2 | don't make an initrd |
| 03:35.26 | bob2 | dos000: have you ever successfully compiled a kernel before? |
| 03:35.33 | dvs | dos000: Did it include the file system and your IDE controller? |
| 03:35.35 | dos000 | bob2, yes . |
| 03:36.15 | dos000 | dvs, i think the file system was there as a module |
| 03:36.56 | dvs | dos000: It should be in the kernel itself or in the initrd |
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| 03:38.15 | dos000 | dvs, for the initrd i did mkinitrd -o <mykernel>.img /lib/modules/<mynewlymodules> |
| 03:39.03 | dos000 | thats is all i used to do before to upgrade to manual kernels. |
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| 03:39.20 | dvs | dos000: according to the man page, the directory has to be proceeded by -d |
| 03:39.39 | bob2 | don't use an initrd |
| 03:39.43 | bob2 | it's so much less hassle |
| 03:39.43 | dvs | I agree |
| 03:39.57 | dvs | Especially if the kernel is only for your machine |
| 03:40.27 | Bac9 | what is available to replace gstreamer0.8-jack? I just noticed it got dropped from debian |
| 03:40.35 | ambroseL | Thanks enveezee zenity works pretty well... is there a way to make it use a fixed font? It doesn't mention X resource names in the man page (or such an option) |
| 03:41.03 | dos000 | bob2, ok ... the bad thing is i have to figure which modules to compile in. also i am planning to do raid1 so ... |
| 03:41.45 | dos000 | i will have to figure to compile it in i guess |
| 03:42.06 | dvs | software raid? |
| 03:42.11 | dos000 | dvs, yes |
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| 03:42.45 | wiesel | why not use initrd? |
| 03:43.06 | dos000 | i did .. just no success so far |
| 03:43.12 | dvs | wiesel: Because it's only useful if you do NOT know what modules you need exactly. |
| 03:43.21 | enveezee | initrd is extra work and really only needed if the kernel is for more than one different system or a cd or flash boot |
| 03:43.39 | bob2 | dos000: the kernel doesn't know or care about hardware raid |
| 03:43.49 | enveezee | software |
| 03:43.52 | bob2 | if it's root-on-software-raid-1, you lose, more or less |
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| 03:44.22 | wiesel | so than it should work without initrd if i compiled in the right drivers? |
| 03:44.52 | enveezee | wiesel: only the drivers required for booting have to be compiled in |
| 03:44.52 | dvs | wiesel: yup |
| 03:45.10 | enveezee | wiesel: root filesystem, drive controller.. etc |
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| 03:45.40 | wiesel | ok. thanks a lot! :) |
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| 03:47.26 | FrdFlint | i just reinstalled debian ,how can i set grub up to recognise my ntfs on the other drive? |
| 03:47.41 | m4lu7 | man grub? |
| 03:47.44 | sidiot | you can't do apt-get <package> --force -downgrade can you? |
| 03:47.57 | sidiot | someone just posted that on linuxquestions.org |
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| 03:48.00 | FrdFlint | thanks |
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| 03:48.54 | Timrza | hi ~ has linux got a solution to get windows ad users information ? as nickname . loginname ,or other properties ... |
| 03:49.08 | hackerkill | 0 |
| 03:49.58 | m4lu7 | Timrza, yeah. |
| 03:50.00 | m4lu7 | samba. |
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| 03:50.08 | sidiot | how can i view my vfat parition from linux? |
| 03:50.15 | internat | so is there an easy way to disable tcpv6 support? |
| 03:50.20 | enveezee | sidiot: man mount |
| 03:50.24 | sidiot | ok |
| 03:51.06 | dos000 | ouch, lose meaning no way ? |
| 03:51.09 | Timrza | i know samba ~ but how ? i write WMI in windows ~ but don't know what to do in linux ~ |
| 03:51.21 | dos000 | it looks like the kernel is not finding my devices wich was listed as /dev/hdd. |
| 03:51.27 | dos000 | also since i have mdadm already configured i am guessing the module is tryng to find the drives |
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| 03:52.18 | dos000 | sidiot, mount -t msdos <dev> <mpoint> |
| 03:52.34 | dos000 | or vfat .. cant remember |
| 03:52.41 | Timrza | m4lu7, u mean it can done in linux ? i need the AD user's Login name for example... |
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| 03:53.44 | m4lu7 | Timrza, #samba |
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| 03:54.59 | Timrza | m4lu7, thanks~ |
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| 03:55.47 | astroman | I INSTALL DEBAIN AND IT DO NOT HAVE WINDOW. NOW I INSTALL 95 WINDOW, PLZ HELP |
| 03:56.03 | tictac | lol |
| 03:56.32 | sidiot | what's mpoint? |
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| 04:00.54 | Guerin | astroman: are you serious? |
| 04:01.10 | dos000 | which mkinitrd command does the installer use when i install kernel-image.deb ? |
| 04:01.20 | Metrics | Guerin: I was wondering the same thing. |
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| 04:02.48 | zzer | anybody had ever use htshd?? and had problems with common.inc (.php include file) ?? |
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| 04:03.20 | Guerin | !anyone use htshd |
| 04:03.20 | dpkg | No, no one uses htshd, not even the people who use it. |
| 04:03.38 | Bac9 | what is available to replace gstreamer0.8-jack? I just noticed it got dropped from debian |
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| 04:03.43 | tree | Hi. |
| 04:03.46 | bob2 | it's so much easier to not use an initrd |
| 04:03.47 | zzer | *anybody |
| 04:03.53 | bob2 | you could be doing bongs by the river by now |
| 04:03.59 | liable | hah |
| 04:04.02 | Guerin | Bac9: what branch? |
| 04:04.04 | tree | I am confused about mtab and fstab.. What's the difference between those two tabs? |
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| 04:04.18 | Guerin | tree: man mount; man fstab |
| 04:04.34 | Bac9 | Guerin: both testing and unstable, it's not only in stable, and I am on etch |
| 04:04.49 | dos000 | bob2, i always tried and i always had to come back to initrd ;-( |
| 04:04.52 | tree | Guerin: my man isn't working.. |
| 04:04.54 | Guerin | Bac9: hrm. Is there still stuff which depends on that version? |
| 04:04.59 | klync | tree: fstab is a file you create, mtab is generated by the system |
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| 04:05.13 | Guerin | tree: then you have bigger problems than not knowing what mtab and fstab are |
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| 04:05.16 | zzer | ok,linuxers, where is *bsd cjannel? |
| 04:05.17 | tree | klync: thanks |
| 04:05.30 | Guerin | zzer: #*bsd |
| 04:05.38 | zzer | thanks |
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| 04:05.58 | Bac9 | Guerin: s/not/now |
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| 04:06.04 | tree | Guerin: man: command exited with status 256: /usr/bin/zsoelim /tmp/zmansbBFP0 | /usr/bin/tbl | /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc -rLL=206n -rLT=206n -Tascii8 | iconv -c -f ISO-8859-1 -t EUC-JP | less |
| 04:06.07 | Yarou | jajaja |
| 04:06.33 | tree | Guerin: thats what it said after i ran it |
| 04:06.46 | Phoenix1701 | Hey guys; I think apt-get/dpkg just broke my Debian installation something fierce. I can't startx now; when I try, I get an error saying: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such device). lsmod lists agpgart as installed, and modprobing it doesn't help. Any suggestions? Please? |
| 04:06.47 | Bac9 | Guerin: donno, but I don't want to loose any functionality |
| 04:07.00 | bob2 | Phoenix1701: what did it install? |
| 04:07.04 | bob2 | Phoenix1701: did you touch your kernel? |
| 04:07.10 | Phoenix1701 | (Incidentally, I believe things are configured to use xorg rather than XFree86) |
| 04:07.14 | Guerin | Bac9: well, there's a jackd v1 now |
| 04:07.17 | Bac9 | Guerin: as I understand it nothing depends on specific plugins, they are just available for install to use with the framework |
| 04:07.35 | Phoenix1701 | bob2: Not manually, no, though one of the many, many, MANY things it installed was kernel-image-$VERSION |
| 04:07.38 | Bac9 | Guerin: yeah, but no jack plugin for gstreamer |
| 04:07.53 | Guerin | Bac9: oh, with you now. No idea about that. |
| 04:07.56 | Bac9 | Guerin: hence my question, is there anything I can replace that package with? |
| 04:08.01 | Phoenix1701 | It must have installed at least sixty or seventy things, of which a couple had errors or suspicious behavior. :/ |
| 04:08.09 | Guerin | Bac9: depends what specific functionality of jack you need |
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| 04:08.17 | Bac9 | Guerin: jack output |
| 04:08.26 | Guerin | Bac9: or whether you can just not use gstreamer, like a sane per\son |
| 04:08.49 | Bac9 | Guerin: elaborate please on why using gstreamer is bad |
| 04:09.00 | Phoenix1701 | I am not sufficiently adept at wrangling apt-get to get it to undo whatever horrible damage it did, so at this point I'd be happy just to get X up and limping. |
| 04:09.03 | Guerin | Bac9: partly for the reasons you're discovering |
| 04:09.12 | Guerin | Bac9: it complicates an already complicated system |
| 04:09.35 | Bac9 | Guerin: oh, I thought certain players were moving to gstreamer as the backend, e.g. bmp |
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| 04:09.47 | Guerin | Bac9: yeah, that don't make it a good idea. |
| 04:09.58 | Bac9 | Guerin: I've only heard of gstreamer being the future, can you elaborate on the counter points? |
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| 04:10.15 | Phoenix1701 | So, anyone have any clue what might be going on or how to fix it? |
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| 04:10.20 | Guerin | Bac9: i've heard that too, but the fact is that it ain't ready for prime time |
| 04:10.27 | gravity | Phoenix1701: What's wrong with X for you? |
| 04:10.34 | dos000 | where in the kernel config does raid stuff live ? |
| 04:10.36 | sandman | Should firefox really take up 140m of memory? |
| 04:10.37 | Metrics | Phoenix1701: What sort of error messages are you getting? |
| 04:10.43 | Guerin | Bac9: things with a plain alsa output work fine; use them instead |
| 04:10.44 | Bac9 | Guerin: do take into account that I am just a user that wants all apps to work, that's really the only reason why I install all possible plugins |
| 04:11.02 | Phoenix1701 | gravity: It simply won't start. The error message I get is "Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such device)" |
| 04:11.08 | Guerin | Bac9: do you actually use jackd? |
| 04:11.15 | Bac9 | Guerin: so you're saying just pipe to jack through alsa? possible |
| 04:11.17 | Metrics | sandman: How long has it been running for? It's known to have some memory leaks. |
| 04:11.18 | gravity | Phoenix1701: modprobe agpgart |
| 04:11.26 | astroman | WHY ARE DEBAIN NOT RUN ON COMPUTER?? |
| 04:11.27 | sandman | Metrics: About 5 days |
| 04:11.28 | Phoenix1701 | Did so; no evident effect. |
| 04:11.40 | Guerin | Bac9: i'm saying, unless you need somethign specifically provided by jack, don't use it. |
| 04:11.42 | Phoenix1701 | I'm not quite sure what it should have done though, so I might have done something incorrectly. |
| 04:11.43 | Metrics | sandman: That might explain it |
| 04:11.46 | Bac9 | Guerin: truth be told I use nas, I was looking at jack but it doesn't have network capability the last I looked |
| 04:11.49 | gravity | Phoenix1701: Go to /dev and run MAKEDEV agpgart |
| 04:11.58 | Guerin | astroman: STUPID YOU ARE TOO |
| 04:12.03 | Bac9 | Guerin: so which is specifically bad, gstreamer or jack? |
| 04:12.09 | astroman | Guerin: YOU ARE FAT |
| 04:12.14 | gravity | Phoenix1701: Unless you have udev. If you have udev then you should have agpgart when you modprobe that |
| 04:12.15 | sandman | Metrics: That's disappointing. |
| 04:12.15 | Phoenix1701 | gravity: It's not in my path... where does MAKEDEV live? |
| 04:12.18 | Guerin | haha |
| 04:12.28 | sandman | Metrics: I'd think a piece of OSS like firefox wouldn't have leaks |
| 04:12.35 | gravity | Phoenix1701: You have to be root. It's in sbin |
| 04:12.39 | bob2 | astroman: uh, enough |
| 04:12.47 | Guerin | sandman: you'd think wrong. firefox has at leas one well-known memory leak |
| 04:12.48 | Phoenix1701 | gravity: Well, the thing is, I think udev might have been one of the things in my last apt-get session that was complaining about dependencies... |
| 04:12.49 | Metrics | sandman: Check the BTS...I'm sure there's some stuff in there about it. |
| 04:12.56 | gravity | oy |
| 04:13.13 | gravity | Phoenix1701: If you don't have a functional udev then just get rid of it |
| 04:13.16 | sidiot | !bit astroman |
| 04:13.19 | gravity | It won't do you any good broken |
| 04:13.22 | sidiot | !bite astroman |
| 04:13.28 | Phoenix1701 | I just tried MAKEDEV, and it gave no error but a subsequent startx did nothing new. |
| 04:13.30 | Gnea | Phoenix1701: udev requires 2.6.12 in unstable |
| 04:13.33 | Phoenix1701 | So, apt-get remove udev? |
| 04:13.44 | gravity | Phoenix1701: Do you have the /dev/agpgart file now? |
| 04:13.47 | Phoenix1701 | Gnea: Yeah, I'm only running 2.6.7... |
| 04:13.52 | Guerin | Bac9: gstreamer is still flakey as hell, and under such rapid development that it's basically impossible to pin down. Jack isn't such a problem, but since it seems to be the less-critical link in your sound chain, I suggest removing it. |
| 04:13.57 | Gnea | Phoenix1701: ... upgrade :) |
| 04:13.58 | Phoenix1701 | gravity: Yes. |
| 04:14.04 | gravity | And X still complains? |
| 04:14.06 | gravity | wtf... |
| 04:14.11 | Phoenix1701 | startx still gives the same error, yeah. |
| 04:14.17 | Phoenix1701 | Note that it says no such device, not no such file/directory. |
| 04:14.28 | gravity | And you have the agpgart module modprobe'd |
| 04:14.29 | Phoenix1701 | Which I think means there's no kernel support, rather than that the actual device entry doesn't exist. |
| 04:14.34 | Phoenix1701 | Yeah... |
| 04:14.43 | Phoenix1701 | I can keep modprobing it if you think that'd help. ;) |
| 04:14.44 | gravity | You've got me stumped |
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| 04:14.57 | Bac9 | Guerin: oh, k, thanx for the advice, the reason I was looking at jack was that I wanted an alsa based networkable solution (playing sound from one box to another), but I guess jack can't do that yet |
| 04:15.11 | Bac9 | Guerin: unless you can attest to the contrary |
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| 04:15.26 | Guerin | Bac9: i thought it could, but i haven't actually used it. Nas can; esd and arts both can. |
| 04:15.42 | Bac9 | Guerin: nas/esd/arts are oss based |
| 04:15.59 | Guerin | Bac9: that's ok, because alsa has a transparent oss emulation layer. |
| 04:16.02 | Phoenix1701 | gravity: modprobe udev complains that there's no such module.. |
| 04:16.16 | Phoenix1701 | But apt-get seems to think udev is installed, and I'm not sure how to uninstall it. |
| 04:16.18 | Guerin | Bac9: as long as you have snd-pcm-oss loaded, your oss apps will work fine under alsa |
| 04:16.22 | Bac9 | Guerin: and in general esd looses quality if playing long streams, that's why I switched to nas (which tends to be good, but doesn't seem to be owfully popular) |
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| 04:16.44 | gravity | Phoenix1701: udev isn't a module |
| 04:16.48 | Guerin | Bac9: esd and arts are both evil as sin, i don't blame you. |
| 04:17.11 | Phoenix1701 | Ah, sorry, I took "If you have udev then you should have agpgart when you modprobe that" to mean "when you modprobe udev" |
| 04:17.18 | Bac9 | Guerin: arts I stay away from because of kde, as for esd, used it, met shortcomings, moved on |
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| 04:17.47 | Guerin | Bac9: is nas doing the trick, despite ossness? |
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| 04:18.21 | poo | does anyone know where to get ant wars full version for free? |
| 04:18.24 | Phoenix1701 | So no guess as to how I might check whether apt-get thinks udev is installed, and possibly uninstall it if so? |
| 04:18.29 | Bac9 | Guerin: so what do you recomend as a sound server? I know dmix in alsa, but I've no clue how to set it to be used globally by all users simultaneously (so I can have both root daemons and myself be able to play sound) |
| 04:18.48 | Guerin | poo: this is not a warez channel |
| 04:18.52 | wireddd | is there a *good* bittorent client that is written in c? |
| 04:18.58 | Guerin | Bac9: dmix should work. |
| 04:19.02 | Bac9 | Guerin: nas is doing the trick but debian is dropping nas support for a lot of apps, e.g. xmms-nas has disapeared a while back |
| 04:19.07 | sandman | Isn't there a free version of unrar somewhere? |
| 04:19.09 | poo | hello? |
| 04:19.10 | Guerin | wireddd: rtorrent is written in c++, and is excellent |
| 04:19.23 | poo | help me! :( |
| 04:19.25 | Bac9 | Guerin: dmix works on a per-user bases, I've not the slightest clue how to set it up globally |
| 04:19.29 | wuming | my sarge seems have DNS problem. it takes a long time to looking up web addresses~,in winxp, dns works no problem |
| 04:19.49 | Guerin | Bac9: put a sample .asoundrc in /etc/skel/ |
| 04:19.55 | Metrics | wuming: What's in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 04:19.56 | nix | hmm, why do I have DRI on as root but off as a normal user according to glxinfo? DRI device is read and writeable by all =/ |
| 04:20.04 | widrone-away | poo: You have a debian question? |
| 04:20.12 | Phoenix1701 | Ah, so here's the original problem. |
| 04:20.18 | wuming | Metrics: search and nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 04:20.20 | Bac9 | Guerin: isn't that for all new users? |
| 04:20.24 | poo | how do u get ant wars full version for free |
| 04:20.37 | Metrics | wuming: Is there a DNS server or router at 192.168.0.1? |
| 04:20.40 | Phoenix1701 | It can't setup linux-image-2.6.14-1-686... |
| 04:20.40 | ke6isf | poo: You're not here for Debian help, are you? |
| 04:20.45 | wuming | Metrics: it is the router |
| 04:20.50 | Phoenix1701 | (Where by "it" I mean apt-get) |
| 04:20.51 | Guerin | Bac9: yeah. For existing users, you can put it in their dirs with a simple for loop |
| 04:21.01 | Guerin | poo: piss off |
| 04:21.05 | widrone | poo: apt-get install ant-wars ? |
| 04:21.08 | Guerin | poo: this is not a warez channel |
| 04:21.09 | wuming | Metrics: there is a DSL modem before the router has ip 192.168.1.254 |
| 04:21.20 | poo | oh lol |
| 04:21.22 | Bac9 | Guerin: basically the thing I've encountered is starting mpd daemon and not being able to play sounds as user simultaneously |
| 04:21.26 | Phoenix1701 | "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" (whatever the heck 2 is) |
| 04:21.34 | poo | didnt really read the name |
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| 04:21.41 | ke6isf | Guerin: That was curt yet terse. =^^= |
| 04:21.50 | Guerin | Bac9: right. you're talking about a thick client situation, right? |
| 04:21.56 | Metrics | wuming: I've heard of some problems with simple routers that don't do DNS very well. Try putting your ISP DNS servers in as nameservers, or try the modem's IP. |
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| 04:22.04 | Phoenix1701 | "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool"...? |
| 04:22.04 | Bac9 | Guerin: "thick client situation"? |
| 04:22.07 | Guerin | ke6isf: is that like small yet compact? |
| 04:22.18 | Guerin | Bac9: one big computer serving a bunch of little computers |
| 04:22.21 | ke6isf | Guerin: Yeah. Or short yet brief. =^_^= |
| 04:22.25 | Phoenix1701 | Has anyone seen anything like *that* before? |
| 04:22.29 | Guerin | Bac9: not that your clients are stupid, though they [rpbably are. |
| 04:22.36 | Bac9 | Guerin: naa, one computer serving me, and a few daemons |
| 04:22.43 | wuming | Metrics: let me try |
| 04:22.58 | Bac9 | Guerin: I wana get along with daemons, but am not sure how to tell that to alsa |
| 04:23.00 | ke6isf | Hmm, fire trucks outside. |
| 04:23.01 | Guerin | Bac9: i'm not wildly familiar with mpd, so I can't say whether that's impacting it. |
| 04:23.48 | Bac9 | Guerin: is there a global asoundrc that I could modify? /etc/ doesn't seem to contain anything, some file that all users source and learn about dmix |
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| 04:24.12 | Guerin | Bac9: i think it's per-user. |
| 04:24.24 | Bac9 | Guerin: mpd is basically a sound player daemon, imagine a sound player as a system daemon and you pretty much got the general idea |
| 04:24.48 | wuming | Metrics: Do I need reboot or anything after change? |
| 04:24.56 | Bac9 | Guerin: darn, it'd be so much easier if there was a global alsa config... oh well, maybe in a couple of years |
| 04:25.13 | Metrics | wuming: I think a /etc/init.d/networking restart should be enough. |
| 04:25.23 | Guerin | Bac9: yeah, i know what it is. Does it run as its own user, or as root? |
| 04:25.54 | Bac9 | Guerin: as its own user "mpd" |
| 04:27.01 | dos000 | bob2, i am still getting the same error at boot with initrd. it is saying that the device /dev/hdc1 cannot be found ! |
| 04:27.06 | wuming | Metrics: it does not work, It still takes a while to get the website |
| 04:27.15 | sidiot | dos000: are you running 2.6.14? |
| 04:27.15 | Bac9 | Guerin: so basically when it plays it doesn't use dmix and I can't use the soundcard for anything else |
| 04:27.26 | dos000 | sidiot, i just compiled it |
| 04:27.31 | bob2 | dos000: ...and why is it using that device? |
| 04:27.32 | Metrics | wuming: What did you try? Did you use the modem or ISP nameservers? |
| 04:27.37 | sidiot | dos000: then does it spit you out to a shell? an ash shell? |
| 04:28.02 | dos000 | bob2, i have 2 drives hdc and hdd |
| 04:28.15 | wuming | Metrics: both |
| 04:28.16 | bonz | dos000: disk plugged in & turned on? |
| 04:28.18 | sidiot | dos000: i had this same error with 2.6.14...i reinstalled it and it seems to be working fine so far |
| 04:28.19 | Guerin | Bac9: make the user mpd source asoundrc |
| 04:28.19 | bob2 | dos000: ... |
| 04:28.27 | bob2 | dos000: is the problem that hdc1 is the root filesyste,? |
| 04:28.31 | Guerin | Bac9: you may have to make mpd a homedir and put the file there |
| 04:28.34 | Metrics | wuming: In addition, make sure that the /etc/resolv.conf still says what you set it to. If you get your IP by DHCP, then it will be set by dhclient. |
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| 04:28.44 | Guerin | Bac9: i'm guessing, but that MIGHT work |
| 04:28.56 | dos000 | bob2, both are mirrored and work fine under stock sarge 2.4 |
| 04:28.57 | Bac9 | Guerin: that's kinda anoying, that's why I was hoping there was a system wide config |
| 04:29.03 | Guerin | Bac9: yeah. |
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| 04:29.19 | Guerin | Bac9: there might be; i just don't think there is. #alsa would know forsure. |
| 04:29.32 | Bac9 | Guerin: so you think this whole mess with alsa and jack will sort itself out in a few years? |
| 04:29.33 | wuming | Metrics: yes I get the ip via dhcp |
| 04:29.38 | Loof | Ok, this is odd... I switched to initramfs-tools for 2.6.14 |
| 04:29.47 | Loof | Now, I figured out why IDE dma wasn't enabled |
| 04:29.53 | Guerin | Bac9: the cream will eventually rise of the top, and the curds will fall to the bottom. |
| 04:30.03 | Loof | I had to manually select my chipset in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules |
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| 04:30.11 | Loof | However, it seems to not boot every other time |
| 04:30.14 | Loof | it's totally inconsistent |
| 04:30.15 | Bac9 | Guerin: hope it happends soon |
| 04:30.21 | dos000 | bob2, i created a raid1 using mdadm --create .. and i was able to reboot using /dev/md0 as root under 2.4 |
| 04:30.25 | Loof | the really odd part is that AFTER it fails to boot |
| 04:30.27 | Bac9 | Guerin: thanx for your help |
| 04:30.28 | Loof | while at the commandline |
| 04:30.32 | Loof | it keeps detecting devices |
| 04:30.37 | Guerin | Bac9: welcome |
| 04:30.40 | Loof | almost like it is trying to use the HD before it is detected |
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| 04:31.41 | bob2 | oh man |
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| 04:32.49 | wuming | Metrics: I'm using a wireless card, will this be the problem? |
| 04:33.01 | Metrics | wuming: Shouldn't be. I do too. |
| 04:33.12 | BhaalWK | Anyone know how I kill a process which has a status of 'DL' ?? 'Uninterruptable Sleep' and 'Has Pages Locked in Memory' |
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| 04:33.29 | Metrics | wuming: After you get the IP via DHCP, does resolv.conf get reset to 192.168.0.1 |
| 04:33.30 | Metrics | ? |
| 04:33.45 | wuming | yes |
| 04:33.51 | wuming | with a search in line 1 |
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| 04:35.01 | Metrics | wuming: Try changing resolv.conf to have your ISP DNS servers, and don't network restart. |
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| 04:35.37 | wuming | ok |
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| 04:36.43 | Guerin | !zombie |
| 04:36.44 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
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| 04:37.06 | Guerin | BhaalWK: ^ |
| 04:37.30 | nimak | synergy is offically awesome |
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| 04:38.04 | nimak | anyone who has two computer near each other needs to install it |
| 04:38.12 | BhaalWK | Guerin: Im trying to kill the processes which are causing the others to be zombied |
| 04:38.28 | BhaalWK | nimak: synergy? |
| 04:38.36 | Guerin | BhaalWK: if they, too, are in D, they, too are zombies. |
| 04:38.50 | nimak | http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:38.57 | bjoly | hi |
| 04:38.59 | BhaalWK | Guerin: Hrm... |
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| 04:39.53 | Stalione | Hello, does anyone here have experience with using OpenLDAP as auth. backend for Linux? I have it working just find but for some reason I just can get it to list users secondary groups. Any takers? |
| 04:39.54 | wuming | Metrics: I think I cannot find my ISP's dns server, |
| 04:40.05 | BhaalWK | nimak: I tried synergy, I have 2 machines with dual monitors, but I wanted one machines monitors ontop of the others, synergy doesnt seem to like doing this... |
| 04:40.06 | wuming | Metrics: Is there any tools I can use to find out it? |
| 04:40.25 | BhaalWK | nimak: And I found it to be buggy and crash easily... |
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| 04:41.25 | Metrics | wuming: If you check your router it might have info as to what it is using as it's name servers. Or you can check with your ISP (on their site). |
| 04:41.25 | BhaalWK | Guerin: Any way to quickly find parent processes? |
| 04:41.27 | Guerin | BhaalWK: man ps |
| 04:41.29 | sidiot | !sony |
| 04:41.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sony is a very screwed up company, or someday you will drive your sony to the sony to pick up some more sony |
| 04:41.34 | Metrics | wuming: Try playing with whois as well. |
| 04:42.17 | wuming | Metrics: host661461496c.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com |
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| 04:42.59 | nimak | BhaalWK: weird, it works perfectly for me, but i only have 2 computers, with 1 monitor each |
| 04:43.19 | BhaalWK | nimak: Im sure that in that situation it would work... |
| 04:43.42 | BhaalWK | Guerin: Okey, found, killed the parents... But I still have processes which are listed as 'DL' |
| 04:43.51 | wuming | Metrics: btw, I have another winxp access internet through my sarge, which has no looking up problems |
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| 04:45.30 | BhaalWK | Guerin: Anything else I can do? |
| 04:45.39 | beata | Hola tacos. Hey, my digital camera appears to be able to stick wav audio into jpeg files. I'm just wondering where in the camera toolchain would be the best place to deal with that. |
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| 04:46.00 | Metrics | Do you mean you are using the Sarge box as a router and Win XP works fine through it? |
| 04:46.04 | Metrics | wuming: |
| 04:46.24 | jing | how to config sound on debian? |
| 04:46.32 | jing | dpkg-reconfig ?? |
| 04:46.57 | Gnea | alsaconf |
| 04:47.01 | Guerin | BhaalWK: if you killed the ppids of those, they should be dead |
| 04:47.08 | Guerin | jing: /msg dpkg sound |
| 04:48.46 | wuming | Metrics:yes |
| 04:49.12 | BhaalWK | Guerin: Hrm, thats not happened, its cdrecord... Got a bunch of them... |
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| 04:49.12 | Metrics | wuming: But DNS from the same box doesn't work? |
| 04:49.21 | wuming | yes |
| 04:49.28 | bjoly | anyone succeeded to install the package kernel-image-2.6.14-* on sid. I always get the |
| 04:49.37 | bjoly | error: Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-1-k7 |
| 04:49.47 | Metrics | wuming: What is the Win XP box using as DNS? Should be under network status. |
| 04:50.04 | jing | Guerin: dpkg sound, sound is not a package. |
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| 04:50.21 | wuming | Metrics, the DNS is the sarge box's internel NIC IP |
| 04:50.40 | liable | haha |
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| 04:50.47 | beata | The ramdisk thingy is being bad lately. |
| 04:50.58 | liable | jing: in your irc client.. |
| 04:51.11 | liable | jing: dpkg is a bot.. |
| 04:51.18 | Metrics | wuming: Are you running bind or anything on the sarge box? |
| 04:51.25 | bleck | anyone know of a sequencer that you can automate ladspa plugins? |
| 04:51.36 | bleck | baegle: anyone know if rosegarden can? |
| 04:51.38 | beata | Anyone here ever see a jpeg with embedded audio? |
| 04:51.45 | nimak | erm |
| 04:51.45 | bleck | err eg, not baegle. |
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| 04:51.47 | nimak | no |
| 04:52.21 | bleck | beata: don't you mean hear :) |
| 04:52.49 | beata | No, bleck. I haven't gotten the audio extracted yet. |
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| 04:53.01 | SlayerXP | morning kids |
| 04:53.03 | bleck | beata: just a bad joke. |
| 04:53.15 | beata | Oh, haw haw. =) |
| 04:53.24 | bob2 | I'm pretty sure the jfif format doesn't allow audio |
| 04:53.28 | Guerin | !tell jing about sound |
| 04:53.35 | SlayerXP | I just had a worrying experience |
| 04:53.45 | wuming | Metrics:I do not think I have, but How can I double check if I have it? |
| 04:53.49 | nimak | i have a joke for all of you |
| 04:53.52 | beata | So I've been told. I'm also pretty sure that's what my camera did. |
| 04:53.55 | SlayerXP | I took a machine that had not been switched on for months, hooked it up to my KVM, and switched it on |
| 04:54.00 | Metrics | wuming: You would know if you set it up. |
| 04:54.04 | Guerin | SlayerXP: boomy? |
| 04:54.11 | SlayerXP | something horrible, vile, unexpected and unwanted happened |
| 04:54.12 | nimak | why do chicken coops have 2 doors? |
| 04:54.19 | Guerin | SlayerXP: oh, it had windows installed |
| 04:54.22 | jbroome | SlayerXP: windows booted? |
| 04:54.23 | bleck | nimak: they do? |
| 04:54.26 | bob2 | SlayerXP: php/ |
| 04:54.29 | nimak | if they had 4, then they'de by chicken sedans! |
| 04:54.31 | SlayerXP | worse, gentoo |
| 04:54.38 | Guerin | heh |
| 04:54.57 | SlayerXP | 13 seconds away from having the current d-i image downloaded |
| 04:55.00 | Metrics | wuming: Do something like whois google.com and put the output in #paste |
| 04:55.17 | Gnea | !beer nimak |
| 04:55.29 | Gnea | nimak: drink some more of that, you need to improve... |
| 04:55.43 | bleck | !hehstat bleck |
| 04:56.00 | SlayerXP | brrr |
| 04:56.20 | SlayerXP | my workstation overheated earlier, I have the window wide open to get some cold air in |
| 04:56.27 | SlayerXP | it's 3.7c outside |
| 04:56.39 | nimak | fans? |
| 04:56.39 | beata | Anyone mind if I say that oldworld macs suck to install on? |
| 04:56.53 | jbroome | beata: nope, go right ahead |
| 04:56.58 | Gnea | SlayerXP: canned air? |
| 04:57.00 | nimak | old macs suck in general |
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| 04:57.11 | bleck | SlayerXP: a true computer person, sacrificing human warmth for cpu cycles. |
| 04:57.15 | beata | Okay. *grin* At least the installer gets some workout. |
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| 04:57.28 | jbroome | i have one sitting in the closet, but it's too much of a PITA to install on |
| 04:57.53 | dos000 | is there a way i can see how drives are mapped in a 2.6 kernel ? i amtrying to see if the drives become /dev/hd? or /sd? |
| 04:58.19 | wuming | Metrics: posted |
| 04:58.19 | Guerin | SlayerXP: put your computer outsde |
| 04:58.22 | SlayerXP | it's a dual opty 242, with 4 hard disks and a radeon 9800xt gfx card, plus I've been playing amercias army most of the night |
| 04:58.42 | Gnea | dos000: are you familiar with "open source"? |
| 04:58.51 | dos000 | prefernce in the debian sarge 2.6 installer |
| 04:59.13 | Gnea | ... |
| 04:59.23 | wuming | Metrics: posted |
| 04:59.29 | Gnea | dos000: what about the installer? |
| 04:59.31 | Metrics | wuming: Yeah, I see. |
| 04:59.31 | dos000 | Gnea, ??? i am just trying to see how the kernel sees my drives .. they are reported as missing |
| 04:59.43 | bleck | how do you do a search for channels in irc? |
| 04:59.44 | Gnea | dos000: what kind of drives are they? |
| 05:00.04 | nimak | cfdisk might give you a hint as to the number, dos000 |
| 05:00.06 | Metrics | wuming: Are you from Oz? |
| 05:00.23 | wuming | Metrics: from canada |
| 05:00.31 | dos000 | Gnea, i cant see ... the box is a dell poweredge under a pile of rack :-( |
| 05:00.31 | nimak | worse |
| 05:01.01 | Gnea | dos000: so you dont' even know if they're ide, scsi or sata? |
| 05:01.07 | dos000 | nimak, under 2.4 they were reported as hdc and hdd |
| 05:01.08 | windowlicker | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.18 | dos000 | definitely not scsi |
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| 05:01.51 | Gnea | and dmesg doesn't report them? |
| 05:01.58 | bleck | whoa. |
| 05:02.08 | wuming | Metrics:got to go, will talk to you later |
| 05:02.11 | wuming | thx for hel |
| 05:02.13 | wuming | help |
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| 05:02.17 | nimak | what determines where a drive goes? |
| 05:02.22 | Metrics | wuming: Sorry I couldn't help. Try debian-user |
| 05:02.24 | dos000 | 2.6 dies gets into a panic ! so no i cannot see dmesg |
| 05:02.25 | nimak | in /dev |
| 05:02.40 | wuming|away | Metrics: OK! :) |
| 05:02.59 | Gnea | dos000: maybe the acpi or apm is buggy |
| 05:03.44 | dos000 | Gnea, it stops at the mdadm config trying to find a deveice labeled /dev/hdc1 |
| 05:04.31 | dos000 | Gnea, also in the mdadm.conf i only put the uuid of the raid. i have soft raid1 btw. |
| 05:05.00 | uknow | mkdir -p /var/home/nuevo_usuario |
| 05:05.01 | uknow | cp /etc/skel/.b* /var/home/nuevo_usuario |
| 05:05.01 | uknow | ls -a /var/home/nuevo_usuario |
| 05:05.01 | uknow | vi /etc/passwd |
| 05:05.01 | uknow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.01 | uknow | tail -1 /etc/passwd |
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| 05:05.04 | Gnea | dos000: oh ok... i don't know much about that |
| 05:05.34 | Gnea | o/~ break on through to the other side o/~ |
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| 05:05.40 | dos000 | but isnt there a utitlity to see how the drives are seen in the installer ? |
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| 05:05.48 | gravity | fdisk? |
| 05:06.00 | dos000 | lemme try |
| 05:06.02 | Gnea | well you're talking about reinstalling onto a software raid |
| 05:06.08 | Gnea | that's tricky |
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| 05:06.33 | not_benh | this is OT but I didnt really know where else to ask. On one of my shared hosting accts I have access to gcc and make and I want to install screen. but because it's a shared acct I know I need to specify a prefix at some point... doesn any one know if it's make prefix=~ or if there is a good doc that I can read to explain all this for me? |
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| 05:06.38 | bleck | does anyone else find it frustrating trying to use alsa, oss, esd, jack and arts based applications all at the same time? |
| 05:06.38 | Gnea | typically i would imagine you'd want to install to a smaller hd, then raid the rest together, but maybe i'm wrong |
| 05:06.47 | sidiot | uknow: don't paste here! |
| 05:06.52 | sidiot | uknow: read the tops |
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| 05:06.57 | uknow | scuse me |
| 05:07.02 | Gnea | !tell uknow about paste |
| 05:07.06 | dos000 | gravity, you tha man .. fdisk reported seing sda and and sdb ! |
| 05:07.10 | uknow | hello and pardon somebody can correct or add something to me that lacks |
| 05:07.28 | ke6isf | uknow: eh? |
| 05:07.30 | gravity | Cool |
| 05:07.45 | jair_11 | Ungy, hello? |
| 05:08.02 | sidiot | uknow: engrish, prease |
| 05:08.04 | jair_11 | anyone here has been use rsync and cron to create automated backups? |
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| 05:08.18 | Gnea | jair_11: sometimes |
| 05:08.29 | sidiot | !engrish |
| 05:08.30 | dpkg | [engrish] at http://www.engrish.com |
| 05:08.34 | jair_11 | Gnea, hello how are you? |
| 05:08.39 | uknow | excuse my lack for knowledge |
| 05:08.42 | sandman | How to allow or disallow net connections to my X session? |
| 05:08.43 | itp560 | I use the an image to install new machines. when I the SATA/IDE changes kernel panic. This comes from inird image. How can I create a generic initrd file? |
| 05:08.54 | sidiot | uknow: what's your question? |
| 05:08.57 | ke6isf | jair: I use cron and ncftp, and an array of scripts. |
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| 05:09.20 | jair_11 | Gnea, I am trying to really understand how the two tools works together for example I am reading about "dirvish" |
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| 05:09.37 | orangey | hey all! |
| 05:09.37 | gravity | sandman: -nolisten tcp |
| 05:09.42 | orangey | can somebody recommend an web host? |
| 05:09.46 | sidiot | uknow: what's your question? |
| 05:09.47 | jair_11 | ke6isf, I am trying to understand exacly the basics |
| 05:09.51 | orangey | preferably one that gives me a virual machine? : ) |
| 05:10.04 | gravity | sandman: Although iirc that's automatically enabled |
| 05:10.05 | sidiot | vmware? |
| 05:10.12 | encompass | I have installed Enlightenment but can't see it in my session chosser in gdm? |
| 05:10.12 | zu22 | How would you answer someone who asks you "What's so great about Linux?" - someone who is a lifelong Windoze user. I showed one of my friends Debian and he thought it was cool but he seems off-put by the relatively higher initial learning curve (compared with Windoze) and I think he's wondering what Linux offers that will be worth the effort to learn it. Wonder if anyone has articulated this in a guide or has some cogent talking points. |
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| 05:10.18 | sandman | gravity: It's not. How to enable it while the session is running? |
| 05:10.19 | bleck | trying to run a dvd player, xmms, a sequencer, then a gnome app, then a kde app, requires stopping and starting three different sound servers, jack, esd and arts, then for programs that want to write directly to the audio driver, you need to stop all sound servers. then if you need an oss application to run, and you only have alsa, you need oss emulation, which.. seems to work quite well. |
| 05:10.21 | sandman | There's a command I can run |
| 05:10.27 | orangey | I want to run a bunch of apaches (virtual hosts), mailman, and an email server. |
| 05:10.30 | gravity | sandman: That I don't recall |
| 05:10.32 | liable | jair_11: theres a couple of good howto's out there for this. |
| 05:10.32 | sandman | One where I enter + or - to enable/disable it as an argument |
| 05:10.42 | sidiot | zu22: have you googled this topic? |
| 05:10.50 | uknow | correct me , the paste |
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| 05:10.52 | SlayerXP | orangey: okay, you have our permission to do so. |
| 05:10.52 | sidiot | zu22: i bet someone has articulated it for sure |
| 05:10.57 | uknow | please |
| 05:11.04 | Guerin | orangey: you mean a band of apaches |
| 05:11.12 | gravity | sandman: In Debian the nolisten tcp is enabled by default |
| 05:11.13 | Guerin | orangey: the bunches were wild |
| 05:11.13 | sidiot | uknow: if you're going to paste large amounts of text, use www.pastebin.com and paste the url here |
| 05:11.17 | SlayerXP | Guerin: a tribe itym |
| 05:11.30 | Guerin | SlayerXP: well... a tribe might be a few more than he needs |
| 05:11.33 | orangey | SlayerXP: I'm asking if there's a web host where I could have this. |
| 05:12.02 | jair_11 | liable, I need as an emergency have a back up utility |
| 05:12.03 | sidiot | zu22: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/ch01_03.html |
| 05:12.03 | SlayerXP | orangey: could have what? |
| 05:12.08 | zu22 | sidiot: cool |
| 05:12.10 | jair_11 | liable, have you ever used them? |
| 05:12.10 | sandman | _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6000: Name or service not known |
| 05:12.11 | hxh | is there a way I can find out which motherboard a PC is using ? |
| 05:12.13 | bleck | don't get me wrong, they are all for different applications and have different ideas behind them, I just wish there was a way to use esd with jack. then you could run alsa, with jack connected, and arts and esd connected to that, and old legacy apps can use alsa's oss emu (or even better, if there were an oss emu for jack) |
| 05:12.21 | sandman | I can't run anything from chroots.. :/ |
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| 05:12.24 | jair_11 | liable, do you have some understanding of dirvish? |
| 05:12.28 | SlayerXP | hxh: open the case and look for clues in the forms of writing on it |
| 05:12.30 | windowlicker | yes get a screwdriver |
| 05:12.31 | orangey | SlayerXP: I see I have to put everything in one sentence.. |
| 05:12.37 | bleck | I know no-one is listening, just need to vent my frustration. |
| 05:12.42 | klync | hxh: reboot, hit pause on the bios screen, and copy down the model number |
| 05:12.48 | liable | jair_11: I looked into it, but complete automated backups, are more than I require. |
| 05:12.56 | orangey | SlayerXP: I want a webhost where I can have a shell account, apache server, mailman, email server. |
| 05:12.58 | liable | jair_11: no, sorry. |
| 05:13.07 | hxh | nothing in syslog that I can use ? |
| 05:13.12 | orangey | SlayerXP: could you suggest one? |
| 05:13.14 | Guerin | orangey: i use rimuhosting.com for this |
| 05:13.22 | Guerin | others use other things |
| 05:13.26 | dos000 | one more .. in grub is the sata/scsi still listed as (hd?,0) ? |
| 05:13.31 | orangey | Guerin: what do you think of rimuhosting? |
| 05:13.38 | SlayerXP | orangey: oh. I see. you need to install apache, then read the docs on doing vhosts. then you need to choose and MTA, install it and configure it to do what you need. |
| 05:13.47 | Guerin | orangey: i still pay them money every month; that means they're bloody good |
| 05:13.53 | orangey | SlayerXP: perhaps I should use phrases instead of sentences. |
| 05:13.54 | jbroome | orangey: i think they have an unfortunate name. :) |
| 05:13.56 | jair_11 | liable, ok thanks |
| 05:14.02 | sidiot | zu22: google seems to be giving me hits more aimed at businesses but linux is just plain old fun |
| 05:14.12 | orangey | SlayerXP: or monkey sounds.. ooh.. oooh.. aaaaaah.. aaaaaah |
| 05:14.49 | orangey | jbroome: hehe : ) |
| 05:15.00 | orangey | Guerin: well, inertia keeps me going on some things : ) |
| 05:15.15 | sidiot | http://cgi.ebay.com/Progeny-DEBIAN-LINUX-DISTRIBUTION-4-CDs-400-Page-Book_W0QQitemZ5825896178QQcategoryZ11227QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 05:15.22 | sidiot | holy shit...i hope no one buys this |
| 05:15.54 | gravity | Oh wow. Collector's item. |
| 05:15.57 | sidiot | i don't know why anyone would buy debian off ebay |
| 05:16.00 | sidiot | isn't it? |
| 05:16.05 | bleck | could someone give me a rundown on portaudio or coreaudio? |
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| 05:17.24 | sidiot | i want to write a book on debian...Debian: The Wrong Way by Sidiot |
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| 05:17.42 | sidiot | How to best F-up your computer in under an hour |
| 05:17.55 | Subvertir | I will co-author |
| 05:18.00 | orangey | Guerin: Am I going to hate you for life if I commit here? : ) |
| 05:18.03 | sandman | Can I run an Xnest of a chroot'd X session? |
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| 05:18.04 | jbroome | Think it'll take an hour? |
| 05:18.19 | supayoland | irc.voila.fr |
| 05:18.19 | wireddd | sidiot I can give plenty of practical examples! |
| 05:18.20 | Subvertir | "Chapter 14: Heterogenous networks (cluster of FUCK) |
| 05:18.30 | sidiot | ok let's write it |
| 05:19.04 | SlayerXP | and lo! and new debian server was brought forth into the light, and gentoo foulness was overwritten for great justice. |
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| 05:19.19 | orangey | Guerin: dare I ask what distro you have running on yours? : ) |
| 05:19.33 | sidiot | i am running sid |
| 05:19.35 | Subvertir | hhaha |
| 05:19.39 | Subvertir | For great justice! |
| 05:19.41 | sidiot | sid isn't too scary if you use apt-listbugs |
| 05:19.54 | orangey | I basically want a very secure server. |
| 05:20.01 | sidiot | orangey: run sarge! |
| 05:20.15 | orangey | sidiot: sarge = stable? |
| 05:20.16 | jbroome | SlayerXP: HUZZAH! |
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| 05:20.29 | sidiot | yup! |
| 05:20.31 | SlayerXP | it's very easy to secure debian against everything but local physical attacks |
| 05:20.34 | bleck | "find /dev | xargs cat /dev/urandom > " might work |
| 05:20.37 | SlayerXP | /etc/init.d/networking stop |
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| 05:20.48 | Metrics | SlayerXP: lol |
| 05:20.51 | orangey | SlayerXP: but is that different from other distros? |
| 05:21.02 | sidiot | orangey: sarge = so stable it will never have a nervous breakdown or cry on your shoulder after a few drinks |
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| 05:21.25 | orangey | sidiot: hahaha : ) |
| 05:21.30 | cakoose | When I do an apt-get install, I get "The following packages cannot be authenticated." |
| 05:21.36 | orangey | sidiot: the tradeoff of course being that the software is years old : ) |
| 05:21.40 | cakoose | Is authentication something new that was added? |
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| 05:22.04 | TwistedEmotions | cakoose: ... ignore it.. |
| 05:22.21 | TwistedEmotions | cakoose: it's okay as long as you trust the new source that you added... |
| 05:22.31 | cakoose | TwistedEmotions: It's a source I've always used. |
| 05:22.32 | sidiot | orangey: no 6 months old |
| 05:22.46 | sidiot | orangey: you could run testing |
| 05:22.48 | cakoose | TwistedEmotions: Did they change their public key or something? |
| 05:22.54 | bleck | ok, slater people |
| 05:22.56 | sidiot | orangey: it's pretty stable |
| 05:23.06 | w3rdn4 | is there a .deb or .deb source for hydrogen - 0.9.2 |
| 05:23.09 | TwistedEmotions | cakoose: Either they changes something on the site.. auth key or you might wonder.. |
| 05:23.25 | sidiot | !hydrogen |
| 05:23.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, hydrogen is ...that other bot. |
| 05:23.33 | TwistedEmotions | cakoose: check the website.. nromally they post new public keys or whatever... they give you info on how to fix it. |
| 05:23.40 | TwistedEmotions | cakoose: what source? |
| 05:23.55 | cakoose | TwistedEmotions: mirrors.xmission.com |
| 05:23.58 | sidiot | orangey: you could run ubuntu if you want newer software and decent stability |
| 05:24.07 | SlayerXP | grr |
| 05:24.08 | cakoose | TwistedEmotions: I just installed gnupg, did apt-get update, and now it works. |
| 05:24.23 | cakoose | TwistedEmotions: I really hope I didn't just get pwned |
| 05:24.23 | orangey | sidiot: is it safe for a production server? |
| 05:24.27 | SlayerXP | I wish my KVM didn't nake a cheerful BEEP! everytime I flick consoles |
| 05:24.31 | SlayerXP | make |
| 05:24.38 | nimak | how differant is ubuntu from debian |
| 05:24.43 | sidiot | orangey: testing? or ubuntu? ha ha ha |
| 05:24.49 | orangey | sidiot: ubuntu. |
| 05:24.51 | TwistedEmotions | cakoose: uhhh.. if it's a mirror then I think it would not be able to have a key that you can trust be definition.. |
| 05:25.00 | sidiot | orangey: i think ubuntu is pretty stable |
| 05:25.06 | SimonRaven | SlayerXP: pull speaker plug? :) |
| 05:25.07 | SlayerXP | nimak: echo debian > 1; echo ubuntu > 2; diff 1 2 |
| 05:25.14 | sidiot | orangey: you can specifiy "server" when you install it |
| 05:25.26 | sidiot | orangey: but this question is better addressed at #ubuntu |
| 05:25.30 | hxh | /// mnb6j0-8grfvhn09,86gj kkklkj hgfsHi, I've a Debian 3.1 system with a customer compile 2.6.14 kernel and ivtv0.4 with mythtv 0.18.1 and 2 PVR 500 cards. The system reboots whenever I schedule a recording and there is no message in the syslog . Any idea as to how to debug the issue ?a\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ |
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| 05:25.52 | SimonRaven | and a problem with your kbd |
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| 05:26.01 | SimonRaven | and 'net connection |
| 05:26.04 | w3rdn4 | Hydrogen 0.9.2lets you import midi correct? If this program does not allow this, how do I code something to allow it to import midi files? |
| 05:26.07 | SlayerXP | iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's Rob |
| 05:26.17 | nimak | SlayerXP: theyre quite differant! |
| 05:26.19 | orangey | sidiot: Well, since this distro will be just for a server (which is far away), I don't mind if it gains stability in exchange for age.. |
| 05:26.35 | sidiot | orangey: sarge it is! |
| 05:26.50 | orangey | sidiot : ) |
| 05:26.52 | sidiot | orangey: sarge is good...and you can always use backports to stay up to date if you wish |
| 05:27.05 | orangey | sidiot: How old does sarge get? |
| 05:27.12 | orangey | sidiot: And does it keep up with security updates? |
| 05:27.26 | SimonRaven | orangey: duh |
| 05:27.34 | sidiot | orangey: sarge always keeps up with security updates...i think for 5 years? |
| 05:27.37 | SimonRaven | it's current stable... |
| 05:27.46 | SimonRaven | sidiot: what? |
| 05:27.50 | sidiot | orangey: sarge will be stable until etch is released |
| 05:28.03 | sidiot | simonraven: don't they release security updates for 5 years? |
| 05:28.07 | sidiot | or am i lying |
| 05:28.17 | sidiot | maybe 3? |
| 05:28.20 | SimonRaven | until it's not supported anymore. |
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| 05:28.30 | SimonRaven | which for oldstable is 12-18 months |
| 05:28.43 | Gnea | or until etch becomes stable |
| 05:28.45 | SimonRaven | after new stable is released |
| 05:28.46 | sidiot | but woody still gets updates? |
| 05:28.53 | nimak | how old does sarge get = how old is software in sarge? |
| 05:28.55 | SimonRaven | for 12-18 months |
| 05:28.59 | orangey | so I have to upgrade every 12-18 months? |
| 05:29.00 | sidiot | ok |
| 05:29.01 | orangey | fair enough.. |
| 05:29.04 | Gnea | sidiot: until it gets rolled back |
| 05:29.07 | sidiot | orangey: not necessarily |
| 05:29.08 | xuniluser | help: How do I restore the MBR after install windows in another partition? |
| 05:29.14 | SimonRaven | you're expected to upgrade to current stable, or you're on your own |
| 05:29.19 | sidiot | orangey: sarge but still be around for another year...who knows? |
| 05:29.29 | dvsdude | xuniluser, are u using grub or lilo |
| 05:29.32 | orangey | sidiot: if it's only supported / updated for that long.. |
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| 05:29.36 | SimonRaven | dec 2006 is expected release date for etch |
| 05:29.37 | Gnea | orangey: if you leave the 'stable' line in your sources.list, and you fail to keep up, then yes. |
| 05:29.43 | sidiot | really? |
| 05:29.47 | sidiot | holy shit...that's crazy! |
| 05:29.48 | wireddd | etch is already pretty stable |
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| 05:29.58 | sidiot | 2006? or 2005? |
| 05:30.01 | orangey | gnea: so if I keep he "stable", it automatically moves onto 'etch'? |
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| 05:30.08 | wireddd | yes |
| 05:30.11 | sidiot | orangey: yup |
| 05:30.11 | Gnea | pretty sure he said 2006 |
| 05:30.15 | SimonRaven | Gnea: uh, what? the stable symlinks get changed at release... |
| 05:30.21 | SimonRaven | oh ok, nm |
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| 05:30.26 | SlayerXP | brrrr |
| 05:30.29 | xuniluser | dvsdude: grub |
| 05:30.38 | Gnea | SimonRaven: it's okay, go back to smoking your crack ;) |
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| 05:30.52 | SimonRaven | ;p. nah, just lit a smoke ;) |
| 05:30.57 | orangey | well, what I want is simple: I want a great system with no intervention.. is that so much to ask? : ) |
| 05:30.57 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 05:31.12 | Gnea | orangey: 'intervention'? |
| 05:31.40 | SimonRaven | orangey: no. track stable, and you're ok. usual maintainance should keep the thing happy |
| 05:31.52 | dvsdude | xuniluser, ok i would boot of live cd say knopppix then chroot into linux install and mount proc then run grub-update |
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| 05:32.19 | sidiot | hmm...why would anyone use staroffice instead of openoffice? |
| 05:32.23 | Gnea | orangey: that's simply not the way it works, and is thus not real, and is thus not simple and further, yes, it is too much to ask. :) |
| 05:32.57 | Gnea | orangey: but it's your choice if you want to keep up or not |
| 05:33.13 | SimonRaven | it's not hard keeping a stable machine up to date, checking up on it, reading logs, keeping up on its security, and so on |
| 05:33.41 | Subvertir | yeah |
| 05:33.46 | Subvertir | when I start sweating security |
| 05:33.52 | Subvertir | i smoke a bowl and then play cs:s |
| 05:33.56 | Subvertir | problem solved! |
| 05:34.08 | SimonRaven | orangey: you can't however expect a server to be kept safe, and up to date, by doing nothing. that's just irresponsible |
| 05:34.16 | xuniluser | dvsdude: can i backup my MBR to somewhere before i install windows? how |
| 05:34.28 | SlayerXP | SimonRaven: s/irresponsible/gentoo/ |
| 05:34.57 | SimonRaven | heheh |
| 05:35.03 | dvsdude | xuniluser, not that i know off. i would normally install windows first then linux after as grub will pick up windows install and adjust grub accordingly |
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| 05:35.34 | SlayerXP | gentoo: making sure your computer is immune to attacks by chewing up 100% cpu |
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| 05:36.40 | psycodad | anybody using vservers on sarge ? I don't know where to follow/read after apt-get install vserver-kernelpatch... |
| 05:37.02 | w3rdn4 | why does my general midi device in debian not play and cool midi like grand piano |
| 05:37.03 | xuniluser | dvsdude: is there a way where i can boot from floppy? |
| 05:37.09 | SlayerXP | psycodad: less /usr/share/doc/vserver*/README* |
| 05:37.11 | w3rdn4 | or play my midi in grand piano sound |
| 05:37.18 | dvsdude | xuniluser, check this out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=428 |
| 05:37.22 | psycodad | SlayerXP: thx! |
| 05:38.38 | SlayerXP | trooper thx-1138? |
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| 05:38.58 | psycodad | /usr/share/doc/vserver-debiantools/README contains only license blurb, except a gz'ed changelog and a copyright there is nothing... |
| 05:39.24 | SlayerXP | perhaps there are some other files to read in that directory... |
| 05:39.26 | dvsdude | xuniluser, the link i gave u will help u |
| 05:39.58 | ke6isf | !u |
| 05:39.59 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 05:40.20 | cmug | !wud |
| 05:40.20 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 05:40.32 | cmug | oh would |
| 05:41.06 | psycodad | SlayerXP: there are only the files mentioned, the README, copyright and changelog.gz and the README only contains license blurb. |
| 05:41.54 | orangey | gnea: too bad.. Oh well.. I'm just hoping that rimuhosting will be less trouble than my current arrangement.. |
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| 05:41.58 | ke6isf | !prize cmug |
| 05:42.20 | orangey | anybody have anything to say about rimuhosting? |
| 05:42.27 | orangey | or has anybody heard anything about them? |
| 05:42.36 | SlayerXP | psycodad: there are two vserver packages, did you install just the kernel patch? |
| 05:42.37 | ke6isf | orangey: Nope, not even those who have. |
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| 05:42.56 | orangey | ke6isf: huh? |
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| 05:43.07 | ke6isf | !tell orangey -about anybody |
| 05:43.26 | ke6isf | orangey: No, this isn't software. Yes, it still applies. |
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| 05:43.36 | orangey | ke6isf: ok. but I'm asking about gossip. |
| 05:43.55 | ke6isf | orangey: Tried Google? |
| 05:44.00 | orangey | ke6isf: OK, let's rephrase. "does anybody have good or bad experiences to report about rimuhosting"? |
| 05:44.03 | orangey | ke6isf: yep. |
| 05:44.18 | psycodad | SlayerXP: No, I have installed kernel-patch-vserver, util-vserver and vserver-debiantools |
| 05:44.33 | SlayerXP | orangey: "yes, someone has good or bad experiences to report about rimuhosting" |
| 05:44.47 | ke6isf | !beer SlayerXP |
| 05:45.28 | SlayerXP | psycodad: check the doc directories for each of those packages then. |
| 05:45.35 | orangey | SlayerXP: that's clever. |
| 05:46.02 | SlayerXP | i thought so too. |
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| 05:48.21 | orangey | last question.. |
| 05:48.30 | orangey | why did TBS play Matrix: Reloaded twice? |
| 05:48.33 | orangey | in a row.. |
| 05:48.41 | jbroome | it was reloaded |
| 05:49.01 | orangey | hehehe : ) |
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| 05:50.45 | guk | TBS does that |
| 05:50.49 | guk | if you miss the movie one time |
| 05:50.53 | guk | you can always watch it again |
| 05:51.03 | guk | I kinda find it convienent if you forget to set your pvr or don't have one ;-) |
| 05:51.21 | SlayerXP | i love that phrase |
| 05:51.32 | spdf | They like the get the most out of a movie. Show it twice in the afternoon, in the evening, and in the early morning.. |
| 05:51.41 | guk | oh yeah |
| 05:51.44 | guk | they don't joke around |
| 05:51.50 | SlayerXP | Personal Video Recorder, not to be confused with the Shared Video Recorder that all the people in the pub use as well as you. |
| 05:52.06 | guk | pvr is a fine word ? |
| 05:52.18 | guk | not even a word really |
| 05:52.21 | guk | but fine at that |
| 05:53.41 | orangey | well, it looks like they're playing the whole trilogy |
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| 05:53.57 | noobE | another dumb question department: how do I actually open a dial-up connection in woody using laptop pc modem or serial port modem? I've installed ppxp and ppp, went thru menu in base-config, but where's the button to start the connection? |
| 05:53.58 | orangey | and that's why it doesn't make sense.. they played the first one once, the second one twice.. will they play the third one thrice? |
| 05:54.21 | SlayerXP | noobE: apt-get install wvdial |
| 05:54.40 | spdf | Weird.. Especialy since tape switches and all that are mostly automated/digital now.. |
| 05:54.45 | noobE | SlayerXP: and then run it? |
| 05:54.59 | SlayerXP | noobE: yup, it's a swiss army knife dialing utility |
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| 05:55.17 | spdf | noobE, avoid the -knife switch.. it cuts people.. |
| 05:55.55 | SlayerXP | spdf: you are literally more funny than some people I know. |
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| 05:56.20 | orangey | man. the jokes around here.. |
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| 05:56.41 | orangey | "jokes" |
| 05:56.50 | spdf | They're pretty rough.. |
| 05:56.54 | jair_11 | guys, I am trying to find a good web site, magazine to subscribe, or anything like that where they provide info, and news about conferences, workshops, training and Linux and other opensource info??? |
| 05:57.23 | SlayerXP | jair_11: I'm guessing "Google" isn't exactly the answer you're after. |
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| 05:57.36 | noobE | jair_11:I always thought the "Zap your PRAM" one was interesting, www.archive.org |
| 05:58.03 | lo_tek | jair_11: http://www.lpi.org/en/home.html |
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| 06:00.06 | jair_11 | I has been cheking the www.osdir.com and also distrowatch. but I have to continue checking if is a good magazine with how-tos tutorials, info about courses :0 |
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| 06:01.03 | uknow | who is a external program for rastrear |
| 06:01.23 | jair_11 | lo_tek, nice I have been there before sounds cool |
| 06:01.59 | jair_11 | is because I am traveling to Italy and Germany this christmas and I want to be able of assist to any event about any open source technology :) |
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| 06:09.03 | Jacky | How do I know whether my wireless is working? |
| 06:09.38 | wireddd | try and ping your router |
| 06:09.55 | Jacky | I can't |
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| 06:10.06 | Guerin | Jacky: then it ain't |
| 06:10.10 | Guerin | HTH |
| 06:10.37 | Jacky | How do I know the wireless' driver is installed? |
| 06:10.46 | Guerin | Jacky: did you install it? |
| 06:10.58 | Jacky | I just install the Debian |
| 06:11.01 | Guerin | then it probably isn't |
| 06:11.36 | Jacky | I don't know whether the Debian has install the wireless driver for me. |
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| 06:12.21 | Skrotto | Jacky: iwconfig |
| 06:12.55 | Jacky | what is iwconfig |
| 06:13.01 | Jacky | no this command |
| 06:13.40 | Jacky | What is the wireless device's name? |
| 06:13.45 | Guerin | !wireless |
| 06:13.45 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux |
| 06:13.55 | Guerin | Jacky: start reading |
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| 06:15.39 | Jacky | OK,thanks,I read i first. |
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| 06:17.39 | uknow | me voy a dormir byeeeeee |
| 06:17.51 | Roxport | zzzzz |
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| 06:19.05 | psycodad | SlayerXP: hmm...thnx, learned my lesson, ./kernel-patch-vserver/README contained the desperatly searched for instructions to patch the kernel ;-) Kernel is compiling .. |
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| 06:19.54 | SlayerXP | psycodad: excellent. |
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| 06:21.51 | TwistedEmotions | What is pdflush? |
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| 06:22.02 | psycodad | I am BSD'ish by nature and just finding the places to be for a BSD guy (used to excellent and superior man stuff) in a Debian system, /usr/share/doc seems to be one of the places, the man pages definitely are as weak and lousy as everywhere in Unix/Linux world.. |
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| 06:22.32 | xbmodder | how do I install a package using dpkg? |
| 06:22.43 | jm_ | xbmodder: read the FAQ |
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| 06:23.10 | afabian | psychonate, lot of GNU stuff keeps bigger, better, beefier documentation in the info tree. |
| 06:23.36 | xbmodder | how do I submit a package into the apt repository? |
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| 06:23.59 | Guerin | xbmodder: read the NM guide |
| 06:24.08 | Guerin | !nm guide |
| 06:24.08 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ There is also an additional guide that the Debian Women subproject has put together which may be useful: http://women.alioth.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 06:24.28 | w3rdn4 | how do I update to gtk2? |
| 06:24.31 | w3rdn4 | !gtk2 |
| 06:24.31 | dpkg | from memory, gtk2 is the next generation of gtk, the best gui toolkit available. it features antialiased text, bidirectional text and better i18n font support, a much more intuitive developer interface, etc. go to http://www.gtk.org for more info. even the nice people from SUN are lending an hand. |
| 06:24.36 | Guerin | w3rdn4: context |
| 06:24.41 | afabian | Oh, that's not opinionated. |
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| 06:25.40 | Guerin | afabian: but ... but ... everything starting with g must be the best there is! |
| 06:26.14 | Roxport | gvim |
| 06:26.20 | Roxport | google |
| 06:26.38 | afabian | Gentoo? Why are we here in #debian? ;) |
| 06:26.46 | Guerin | heh |
| 06:26.48 | Roxport | gnu |
| 06:27.01 | lethias | how do you change the gtk theme gnome under debian 3.1 |
| 06:27.11 | Guerin | lethias: gnome-control-center |
| 06:27.24 | Guerin | if the Gnome Lords haven't diabled it |
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| 06:30.16 | [HeMp] | is there anyone that can help me ?? |
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| 06:30.37 | Guerin | [HeMp]: not until you ask a meaningful question. |
| 06:30.48 | [HeMp] | lol |
| 06:30.54 | [HeMp] | i am using knoppix |
| 06:31.05 | Guerin | [HeMp]: in that case, the people in #knoppix can help you |
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| 06:31.12 | SlayerXP | [HeMp]: type '/part #debian; /join #knoppix' |
| 06:31.16 | [HeMp] | i fucked everything |
| 06:31.20 | jbroome | strike 2 |
| 06:31.23 | siimo | Anyone know what package i need? im trying to compile something from source and i get these errors like undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' 'XGetWindowProperty' `XFree' |
| 06:31.31 | jbroome | how can you break stuff in knoppix. |
| 06:31.32 | [HeMp] | i was installing xp pro but no product key available |
| 06:31.40 | Guerin | siimo: you need auto-apt |
| 06:31.47 | Guerin | [HeMp]: we don't care. |
| 06:32.01 | [HeMp] | i am using 3.9 |
| 06:32.05 | Guerin | [HeMp]: we don't care. |
| 06:32.06 | siimo | Guerin, whats auto-apt |
| 06:32.15 | Guerin | siimo: it's the thing you need |
| 06:32.17 | [HeMp] | but i dont know who to wek wwith qtparted |
| 06:32.42 | lethias | guerin: I think they took it out. |
| 06:32.44 | [HeMp] | how to work with ptparted |
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| 06:32.53 | lethias | guerin: right now I can't even find it. |
| 06:32.57 | Guerin | lethias: switch2 might still let you |
| 06:33.02 | jm_ | lethias: not from stable |
| 06:33.03 | Guerin | lethias: in gnome-theme-switvh |
| 06:33.39 | jm_ | ohh that was about GNOME |
| 06:33.45 | SlayerXP | [HeMp]: this is #debian not #knoppix. you are using knoppix. people who want help with knoppix need to ask in #knoppix and not #debian. the clue is in the name. |
| 06:34.06 | [HeMp] | ah ok |
| 06:34.45 | tarzeau | the weekend is over! |
| 06:34.53 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:34.53 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 06:35.46 | Guerin | SlayerXP: it actually worked! |
| 06:36.01 | siimo | Guerin, so i install auto-apt and try again? do i need to configure it? add myself to the sudoers? |
| 06:36.10 | SlayerXP | Guerin: it's not often you find the right shaped clue |
| 06:36.15 | Guerin | siimo: first you read about auto-apt |
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| 06:38.32 | Turicas | i want a command to copy some text to Gnome clipboard...does it exists? |
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| 06:38.52 | tarzeau | Turicas: hehe. Mac OS X has that |
| 06:39.05 | Turicas | tarzeau, but i use ubuntu :/ |
| 06:39.39 | Guerin | Turicas: so ask #ubuntu |
| 06:39.48 | Guerin | Turicas: or #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 06:39.55 | xbmodder | http://circe.nick125.com/ < test it please |
| 06:40.06 | Turicas | :P |
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| 06:43.17 | w3rdn4 | !fusion |
| 06:45.01 | w3rdn4 | how do I find out a users access to the /tyy |
| 06:45.08 | w3rdn4 | and what is a tty? |
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| 06:45.16 | dondelelcaro | teletype device. |
| 06:45.31 | dondelelcaro | w will tell you which users are on which tty. |
| 06:48.33 | w3rdn4 | how do I get CVS sources for Fusion? |
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| 06:49.17 | SlayerXP | w3rdn4: where's the debian link to your question? |
| 06:50.45 | w3rdn4 | whoops I ment http://www.directfb.org/downloads/Core/README |
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| 06:51.15 | [HeMp] | hey help |
| 06:51.20 | Guerin | w3rdn4: to build non-debian source on debian, use checkinstall |
| 06:51.26 | Guerin | [HeMp]: no. You |
| 06:51.32 | Guerin | re not using debian. piss off. |
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| 06:51.59 | noobE | does wvdial work with a pcmcia-card modem, or do you use setserial to point to ttyS1 or whatever? |
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| 06:52.50 | erihwe | anyone know of a window manager for console - similar to screen, but not |
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| 06:53.19 | w3rdn4 | where is the universal area to unzip files/? |
| 06:53.26 | Coke | erihwe: why not screen? :) |
| 06:54.02 | erihwe | well, screen will not run as anything but the superuser |
| 06:54.14 | erihwe | it hangs if i use any other account |
| 06:54.18 | jm_ | what did you do to your Debian install to fuck it like that? |
| 06:54.26 | dondelelcaro | erihwe: that sounds like you've got a permissions problem. |
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| 06:54.46 | erihwe | it is like that no matter the operating system i use as well |
| 06:54.48 | w3rdn4 | Guerin, should I create my own .deb file? |
| 06:55.31 | dondelelcaro | erihwe: eh? it shouldn't be. screen should be setgid utmp, and /var/run/screen should be root.utemp 775 |
| 06:55.35 | dondelelcaro | s/temp/tmp |
| 06:55.47 | dondelelcaro | erihwe: since it works fine here, the problem is quite clearly with your setup. |
| 06:56.15 | erihwe | it would ahve to be a hardware problem then |
| 06:56.26 | erihwe | which makes no sense to me |
| 06:56.41 | w3rdn4 | http://www.directfb.org/index.php/viewcvs.cgi/linux-fusion/linux/include/linux/fusion.h |
| 06:56.44 | w3rdn4 | that is what I was looking for |
| 06:56.49 | dondelelcaro | erihwe: no, it woudln't; what does ls -ld /var/run/screen; ls -l /usr/bin/screen; and mount; for /var/run and /usr/bin output? |
| 06:57.13 | noobE | erihwe: for X there's ratpoison window manager |
| 06:57.17 | erihwe | dondelelcaro: screen hangs on every OS i've tried on this machine |
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| 06:57.24 | erihwe | NetBSD kirkut 2.1 NetBSD 2.1 (KIRKUT) #0: Sun Nov 6 13:11:43 EST 2005 root@kirkut:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/KIRKUT amd64 |
| 06:57.40 | dondelelcaro | erihwe: uh... this is #debian; we don't have anything to do with netbsd. |
| 06:57.48 | w3rdn4 | where do I put .h files? |
| 06:57.52 | erihwe | i am aware of that |
| 06:57.53 | liable | or 64's |
| 06:57.57 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: in your include path |
| 06:58.05 | erihwe | i am looking for something like screen, but not screen |
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| 06:58.26 | dondelelcaro | erihwe: just fix your issue with screen; use strace to figure out where it's stoping, and fix the problem. |
| 06:58.43 | erihwe | is there no alternative to screen then? |
| 06:58.50 | dondelelcaro | erihwe: there isn't really an alternative, because in comparison to gnu screen, everything else is garbage. |
| 06:59.01 | jbroome | screen uber alles |
| 06:59.27 | w3rdn4 | dondelelcaro, is there a folder on my system that stores these? |
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| 06:59.45 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: usually they're kept in /usr/include, possibly /usr/local/include. What .h files are these that you're playing with? |
| 07:00.16 | karjala | Hi... Why doesn't apache2 have 2 versions (-perl and normal) to make it easier to set up front-end & backend servers, like apache1 has? |
| 07:00.50 | karjala | Is it because apache2 threads have a smaller memory footprint and so you don't need a lightweight frontend for it? |
| 07:00.53 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: what are the "$ Id: foobar.c $date $revision $user Exp $" headers in various files called? |
| 07:01.20 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: that's a cvs or svn revision control variable... dunno if they actually have a name. |
| 07:01.24 | w3rdn4 | I posted the link look back up |
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| 07:02.01 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: that either in your linux-headers or linux-kernel-headers package. |
| 07:02.41 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: yeh, i figured it was keeping track of revisions. how do they get put in, is there some command to do it, or do cvs/svn/other-rcs-that-does-that keep track of that once you add an initial tag? |
| 07:02.45 | SlayerXP | <jbroome> i've never advised someone to actually go back to windows, but [HeMp] you're the first |
| 07:02.56 | SlayerXP | from our colleagues over in #knoppix :) |
| 07:03.08 | jbroome | SlayerXP: i'm in here too. :P |
| 07:03.13 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: they're done at commit time in cvs and svn; in CVS they're always on, in subversion you have to enable them per-file. |
| 07:03.13 | w3rdn4 | so is the /usr/include what the root uses as well? |
| 07:03.15 | SlayerXP | oh yes, so you are :) |
| 07:03.30 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: for what? it's only used by a compiler. |
| 07:03.45 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: ok. some --tag option i suppose |
| 07:03.56 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: nah, it's a property, svn:keywords |
| 07:03.59 | SimonRaven | i'll check it out (pardon the pun). thanks dondelelcaro |
| 07:04.04 | SimonRaven | oh, i see |
| 07:04.05 | w3rdn4 | ahhh so the compiler searches in the /usr/include for all .h files? |
| 07:04.18 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 07:04.28 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: by default, yes. it'll search other places if you give it -I options. |
| 07:04.33 | SimonRaven | so svn propedit or such |
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| 07:04.42 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: right |
| 07:04.56 | dondelelcaro | the svn book has a chapter on them |
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| 07:05.14 | SimonRaven | ok |
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| 07:05.43 | w3rdn4 | what does ./configure do then? Does that automatically tell the compiler to run a file in the current unzipped dir? |
| 07:05.43 | SimonRaven | ding, first hit :) : http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch07s02.html |
| 07:05.51 | ordinary | ok, so when I install a package using apt-get, it always gives me a little message saying that it recommends installing the documentation, so I have to go back and do that. Can I tell apt, somehow, to always get the documentation? |
| 07:06.59 | w3rdn4 | ./configure -I /usr/include/fusion.h --enable-multi |
| 07:06.59 | w3rdn4 | configure: error: unrecognized option: -I |
| 07:07.48 | spdf | w3rdn4, What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 07:08.22 | w3rdn4 | getting my ./configure to include the fusion.h(eader) |
| 07:08.32 | SimonRaven | awesome |
| 07:08.32 | zinx | w3rdn4: what are you trying to compile? |
| 07:08.55 | zinx | (or install, or whatever it is you think you're doing) |
| 07:08.57 | w3rdn4 | xdirectfb |
| 07:09.06 | spdf | w3rdn4, Include it in what? Headers are referenced in the source itself... |
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| 07:09.35 | w3rdn4 | checking linux/fusion.h presence... no |
| 07:09.35 | w3rdn4 | checking for linux/fusion.h... no |
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| 07:09.56 | w3rdn4 | for some reason it does not find my fusion.h file in /usr/include |
| 07:10.21 | ordinary | w3rdn4: maybe it thinks it is in /usr/include/linux/fusion.h |
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| 07:10.42 | amahbod | i need help: i am trying to mount an SATA drive that was working (brand new drive) but after i restarted, whenever i try to mount it it saysfsck.ext2: No such device or address while trying to open /dev/sda1 |
| 07:10.42 | amahbod | Possibly non-existent or swap device? |
| 07:10.42 | amahbod | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.59 | decklin | "your" fusion.h? |
| 07:11.24 | w3rdn4 | ordinary, Why does /usr/include have less headers than /usr/include/linux |
| 07:11.30 | amahbod | TriKster-Abacus, yt? |
| 07:12.16 | ordinary | w3rdn4: it just does. they're not having a contest :) |
| 07:12.29 | w3rdn4 | well thank you that solved the problem |
| 07:13.03 | w3rdn4 | I wish the out put was more specific like saying /usr/include/linux instead of just checking/linux/fusion.h presence . . . no |
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| 07:13.48 | spdf | w3rdn4, different systems have different places for holding things.. /usr/include is just the prefix.. allows for portability.. |
| 07:14.00 | ordinary | w3rdn4: yeah. configure is pretty cool, but it is annoying when something fails and then you have to debug why |
| 07:14.09 | amahbod | can anyone help me? |
| 07:14.11 | amahbod | please :( |
| 07:14.25 | spdf | amahbod, Do you see anything in dmesg? |
| 07:14.34 | gpm | hi guys. i have just ripped a dvd, and i have a .avi file (audio in russian) and a .sub file...how do i use the two to view the movie with subtitles? |
| 07:14.50 | spdf | gpm, name the two files the same (with different extensions) |
| 07:14.51 | amahbod | spdf, what should i look for exactly? |
| 07:14.58 | amahbod | spdf, "sata"? |
| 07:15.07 | w3rdn4 | hmmm how do I configure and include support like Png jpeg and Freetype2? |
| 07:15.20 | gpm | spdf: then just play the avi? |
| 07:15.33 | spdf | amahbod, anything drive specific. They'll be lumped together.. |
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| 07:15.53 | spdf | gpm, yep. 'should' work.. |
| 07:15.59 | spdf | gpm, What are you using to play it? |
| 07:16.12 | gpm | spdf: mplayer |
| 07:16.19 | gpm | it says "Cannot load subtitles" |
| 07:16.30 | gpm | and then it shows the file |
| 07:16.33 | amahbod | spdf, its alot of lines, but i dont really see anything about the sata drive |
| 07:16.37 | gpm | no subtitles |
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| 07:16.52 | spdf | gpm, They're named correctly? |
| 07:17.02 | xbmodder | hey+ |
| 07:17.21 | gpm | spdf: yeah. before they weren't named correctly, and it wouldn't even give an error...no mention of subtitles and no subtitles |
| 07:17.37 | gpm | spdf: now it just shows the error. in other movie players the player crashes |
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| 07:17.46 | spdf | gpm, subs are in the correct format? |
| 07:18.12 | gpm | spdf: i dunno...i created a vobsub with dvd::rip |
| 07:18.28 | w3rdn4 | what happens if you enable X11 support for XdirectFB |
| 07:18.48 | amahbod | spdf, what does this mean / is it related? EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended |
| 07:18.53 | ordinary | Has anyone else had this problem: Whenever I install a package with apt-get, I find out after the fact that there is a separate documentation package that did not get installed. Then I have to go back and install it, because I almost always want the documentation. Is there a way to set my debian preferences so that documentation is installed by default along with new debs? |
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| 07:19.35 | jm_ | ordinary: no, but check if the packages in question have recommends or suggests field |
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| 07:20.35 | spdf | ordinary, before you press Y, look. And then change the command accordingly.. |
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| 07:21.17 | ordinary | spdf: I was hoping that in the 21st century we had something slicker than that. |
| 07:22.10 | spdf | ordinary, dselect/aptitude/synaptic... can't think of anything apt specific though.. |
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| 07:22.32 | w3rdn4 | when I am running a ./configure I get some errors like *** JPEG library not found. JPEG image provider will not be built. configure: WARNING: *** libz not found. PNG image provider will not be built. |
| 07:22.46 | spdf | w3rdn4, it means you're missing dev packages.. |
| 07:22.47 | w3rdn4 | some of these are auto enabled as yes and it still does not find them |
| 07:22.49 | gpm | spdf: can i use vobsub's on avi rips of dvds? or do they, as the name implies, only work with vobs? |
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| 07:23.18 | w3rdn4 | what are dev packages? |
| 07:23.20 | w3rdn4 | !dev packages |
| 07:23.28 | ordinary | Also, wouldn't it be cool if, when you typed "man xxx" for a command that was installed, but didn't have the documentation package installed, it would print a message saying that the documentation was not installed and give the name of a package that provides it? |
| 07:23.43 | gpm | transcode |
| 07:23.44 | amahbod | i really need help, why is it that i get two different output results when i run these commands: |
| 07:23.52 | amahbod | # mount /dev/sda1 /crap/ |
| 07:23.52 | amahbod | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 07:23.56 | amahbod | # mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /crap/ |
| 07:23.56 | amahbod | mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 07:24.19 | w3rdn4 | amahbod, what type of file system are you trying to mount? |
| 07:24.26 | amahbod | w3rdn4, ext3 |
| 07:24.46 | amahbod | w3rdn4, for some reason, the drive just doesnt exist on my system anymore |
| 07:24.54 | spdf | w3rdn4, for example, apt-get install libjpeg62-dev |
| 07:25.19 | ordinary | amahbod: can your bios see the drive? |
| 07:25.22 | w3rdn4 | amahbod, I would recommend looking in the /var/log/system to find out if it recognized it on boot up. |
| 07:25.29 | ordinary | amahbod: do you know what I mean? |
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| 07:25.37 | spdf | amahbod, Which kernel version? |
| 07:25.43 | liable | amahbod: have you been fiddling inside the box? check cables, cards etc. is the module for the controller loaded? |
| 07:25.48 | amahbod | 2.6.11 |
| 07:26.01 | amahbod | liable, i installed it like 2 hours ago |
| 07:26.07 | amahbod | liable, and then power outage |
| 07:26.14 | amahbod | and when i booted up, it wasnt there |
| 07:27.05 | spdf | amahbod, Sounds like a module isn't loaded.. run lsmod, and paste that into #flood if possible |
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| 07:28.02 | amahbod | spdf, pasting into flood |
| 07:28.02 | amahbod | sec |
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| 07:28.17 | liable | amahbod: installed the drive? or debian? |
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| 07:28.38 | liable | ah, drive.. |
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| 07:29.15 | w3rdn4 | what are librarys for? |
| 07:29.42 | w3rdn4 | !nvidia_agp |
| 07:31.53 | amahbod | liable, drive |
| 07:31.57 | amahbod | pasted into flood |
| 07:31.59 | amahbod | no idea |
| 07:32.01 | amahbod | -_- |
| 07:32.03 | amahbod | lol |
| 07:32.05 | amahbod | jk |
| 07:32.07 | amahbod | ? |
| 07:32.09 | amahbod | spdf, any idea? |
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| 07:32.27 | spdf | amahbod, I have an idea that you have a ton of modules loaded.. christ :) |
| 07:32.33 | amahbod | spdf, :( |
| 07:32.42 | lethias | real quick question, how do you add more sources to pull from when you use apt |
| 07:32.50 | liable | recheck cables, those sata connections suck. |
| 07:32.50 | amahbod | you modify |
| 07:33.04 | amahbod | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:33.07 | lethias | i dont' know how to get the list back in the setup to add more sources. |
| 07:33.19 | spdf | lethias, apt-setup |
| 07:34.33 | lethias | ah thats it, couldn't remember how i did it before. Thanx spdf |
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| 07:35.38 | spdf | amahbod, Do you see anything with 'dmesg | grep ata' |
| 07:35.46 | w3rdn4 | why would my usb hdd show up under /dev/sda1 ?? |
| 07:35.56 | spdf | w3rdn4, because. |
| 07:37.01 | amahbod | spdf, i see a few things |
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| 07:37.06 | amahbod | ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE0A20080 ctl 0xE0A2008A bmdma 0xE0A20000 irq 177 |
| 07:37.06 | amahbod | ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE0A200C0 ctl 0xE0A200CA bmdma 0xE0A20008 irq 177 |
| 07:37.06 | amahbod | ata1: no device found (phy stat 00000000) |
| 07:37.13 | amahbod | scsi0 : sata_sil |
| 07:37.13 | amahbod | ata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000) |
| 07:37.13 | amahbod | scsi1 : sata_sil |
| 07:37.31 | spdf | amahbod, don't paste in here.. |
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| 07:37.42 | w3rdn4 | so amahbod was mounting the wrong device? |
| 07:38.41 | amahbod | spdf, sorryt |
| 07:38.47 | amahbod | w3rdn4, no i am mounting the right device |
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| 07:39.31 | amahbod | are sata drives hot swap? |
| 07:39.35 | liable | amahbod: check cables.. looks like no device found on the controller.. |
| 07:39.38 | amahbod | ie can i unplug it while the computer is on? |
| 07:39.57 | liable | amahbod: depends on the controller, i would shut it down.. |
| 07:40.04 | deeLer | is there a netinstall cd image available with a more recent kernel ? |
| 07:40.06 | amahbod | k |
| 07:40.07 | amahbod | brb then. |
| 07:40.27 | w3rdn4 | when a package is built where is the source location of the building site after checkinstall construction is complete? |
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| 07:40.56 | liable | deeLer: the etch installer, but it may be broken. |
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| 07:41.24 | AqXP | Question. I'm noticing that E-mails are appearing in /var/mail instead of being emailed to the proper destination.. |
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| 07:41.42 | AqXP | Am I missing something to have them actually sent? |
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| 07:41.53 | deeLer | liable, how do i check if it's broken or not ? |
| 07:41.59 | w3rdn4 | Done. The new package has been installed and saved to |
| 07:41.59 | w3rdn4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.01 | w3rdn4 | WEOOT! |
| 07:42.07 | liable | deeLer: bug tracking for it. |
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| 07:42.49 | AqXP | can someone atleast point me in the right direction? |
| 07:42.56 | liable | deeLer: read somewhere today that it was recently broken, but is prolly fixed by now.. |
| 07:43.42 | liable | AqXP: what mails? system mail? what mta? do you have your mua set to get them? |
| 07:44.24 | deeLer | okay, got an url to download perhaps ? |
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| 07:44.43 | AqXP | I have no idea. i found both system mail and mail sent form PHP scripts in the directory |
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| 07:45.11 | AqXP | I'm wondering why they are in /var/mail instead of being mailed out |
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| 07:45.57 | liable | deeLer: not at hand. |
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| 07:46.23 | mama_soap | Hello :) I was here earlier today, discussing a problem I had with the psmisc file. I was wondering if anyone here can help me out with the problems that I'm having. |
| 07:46.41 | Beleys | Yop |
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| 07:47.26 | mama_soap | I was told that this is certainly a problem with the hard disk - but I am still curious to know how this stuff works - even when I run a 'apt-get remove <package>', I end up with unable to open files list file for package `psmisc': Input/output error - what does this mean? |
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| 07:49.01 | liable | mama_soap: bad blocks on the disk or something, and it cant be read. |
| 07:49.15 | liable | mama_soap: have you tried fsck or badblocks? |
| 07:49.16 | jm_ | it might mean fs problems, or hard disk problems - try to read the file manually and observe kernel logs |
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| 07:50.00 | AqXP | so has anyone had issues trying to send mail..? |
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| 07:50.29 | torc | is ipv6 hardware-dependant? in particular checksum offloading for TCP (?) depends on ipv4 somehow? |
| 07:50.36 | mama_soap | Most people earlier told me to replace my hard disk. I'm quite prepared to do that, but while I am at it, I want to know what's going on. What is the psmisc file? Why does a psmisc install attempt give me an error with nxml-mode? You could say I'm very, very puzzled :( |
| 07:51.14 | mama_soap | liable: I haven't tried fsck yet. Do you think it's okay to go to recovery mode, unmount all file systems and say 'fsck'? Is that safe? |
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| 07:51.35 | jm_ | no, don't run fsck if you have bad sectors on disk, run badblocks first |
| 07:51.53 | jm_ | psmisc is a package - apt-cache show psmisc |
| 07:52.22 | mama_soap | jm_: Exactly - and I tried installing that package... |
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| 07:53.10 | mama_soap | dpkg: error processing nxml-mode (--configure): |
| 07:53.12 | mama_soap | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:53.13 | mama_soap | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:53.15 | mama_soap | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:53.22 | mama_soap | That's what I get when I try apt-get install pcmisc |
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| 07:53.43 | ariston | how can i make mplayer streach the video to the size of the window |
| 07:53.48 | jm_ | mama_soap: yes, it tries to configure package nxml-mode, which has a problem in its postinst script, quite obvious |
| 07:54.02 | bibe | ariston : press F |
| 07:54.44 | ariston | bibe: F doesn't do anything, f make it full screen |
| 07:54.57 | mama_soap | Right, so I try removing nxml-mode, which in turn tells me that there's a problem with the psmisc file. I feel like I'm going in circles and I want the reinstall on a new disk to be absolutely a last-resort thing... |
| 07:55.31 | mama_soap | Is it okay to do badblocks without unmounting filesystems? |
| 07:56.02 | jm_ | yes, just use read only mode |
| 07:56.19 | bibe | ariston : ah yes |
| 07:56.46 | w3rdn4 | hmm I install the .deb package of xdirectfb but I cannot find the /etc/directfbrc. how do I make sure the .deb works correctly? |
| 07:56.47 | bibe | ariston : but isn't it what you want |
| 07:57.06 | mama_soap | Oh good. :) I think I should try doing that. I am still wondering what psmisc has got to do with the hard disk...? (<-- newbie alert, sorry) |
| 07:57.18 | ariston | bibe: nah, i just want to be able to resize the window, and for the video to stretch with the window |
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| 07:58.05 | AqXP | can someone please help me? |
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| 07:58.32 | w3rdn4 | hmm |
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| 07:59.39 | bibe | ariston : I use mplayer-nogui, when launching mplayer <video> from command line I get a window that I can resize with the mouse, and the video area follows on |
| 08:00.04 | w3rdn4 | how do you get ride of X? |
| 08:00.07 | jm_ | it's got nothing to do with hard disk, but if you want to remove psmisc package, then dpkg will access its files and that's where hard disk comes into play - if there's an error on hard disk where the files are stored, you'll see weird results |
| 08:00.27 | w3rdn4 | I want to go abck to console mode so I can manually write my config for directfb |
| 08:00.44 | liable | w3rdn4: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 08:01.05 | liable | ? being x,g,k,w, etc |
| 08:01.20 | ariston | w3rdn4: CTRL+ALT+backspace |
| 08:01.25 | w3rdn4 | ahh gdm |
| 08:01.36 | liable | will restart it.. |
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| 08:01.50 | AqXP | wow come on.. |
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| 08:02.22 | johnny_nubie | i'm trying to get blockhosts to work in debian sarge |
| 08:02.24 | liable | AqXP: that is where exim puts mails, you need to tell your mua to get them from there.. |
| 08:02.47 | xelam | yeah, /var/mail IS the proper destination :) |
| 08:03.05 | johnny_nubie | and when I manually run the script it works, but it doesn't seem to get spawned by the sshd requests automatically like it's supposed to |
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| 08:04.03 | AqXP | ok so what is my mua and how do I do that? |
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| 08:04.41 | dondelelcaro | !mua |
| 08:04.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, mua is a mail user agent, in other words mutt, balsa, pine, elm or any other mail client program. |
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| 08:05.27 | liable | whats that factoid that has greycats mail howto, may be helpfull.. |
| 08:05.37 | Subvertir | <pbqd> "Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals." -Warning label on a swedish chain saw |
| 08:05.42 | AqXP | Does everyone with apache and PHP have to go through this? |
| 08:05.46 | paras | hi all: any one getting "Segmenttion fault" when using synaptic? |
| 08:06.05 | liable | hahaha |
| 08:06.23 | chealer | paras: quite possibly |
| 08:06.33 | johnny_nubie | blockhosts? anyone? |
| 08:06.36 | nkuttler | liable: /msg dpkg listvals wooledge.org |
| 08:06.38 | liable | !segfault |
| 08:06.38 | dpkg | i guess segfault is Core dumped or see Netscape, or ask me about sig11, or the program tried to access memory that it didn't own |
| 08:06.39 | AqXP | I thought PHP had mail sending features built in, so why aren't they sending? |
| 08:06.45 | dondelelcaro | AqXP: just install an MTA like esmtp or nullmailer; it's fairly simple. |
| 08:06.53 | liable | nkuttler: ah, didnt think of that one. |
| 08:06.54 | dondelelcaro | AqXP: what exactly is the problem? |
| 08:06.57 | paras | chealer, i have donwlioad synaptic from deb-src rebuild and again same probelm.. what might be the solution |
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| 08:07.13 | AqXP | k and then what? just install esmtp and then meil will be sent out automatically? |
| 08:07.39 | dondelelcaro | AqXP: if you configure nullmailer properly, messages will be sent out to your upstream's MTA. |
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| 08:07.50 | jolly- | is it possbile to install rpm package on debian? |
| 08:07.56 | liable | !mail tutorial |
| 08:07.56 | dpkg | well, mail tutorial is at http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
| 08:07.59 | dondelelcaro | jolly-: yes, but it's not recommended. |
| 08:08.04 | liable | AqXP: read that^^ |
| 08:08.08 | chealer | paras: rebuilding is unlikely to help you. which version is it? |
| 08:08.15 | chealer | !rpm |
| 08:08.15 | dpkg | well, rpm is revolutions per minute, or Red Hat package manager;; "rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -ivdum" to extract the beasties, or a programming language according to LinuxOne, or convert them to .deb's with 'alien'. Relaxing Porn Movie, or random package mangling, or an inferior package type when compared to deb. Rubbish Package Management. Retards pathetic Moaning, or roothats pathalogical muckfuck, or rat-poison method, or robot power ... |
| 08:08.19 | jolly- | I want to install novell client for linux and its for red hat and suse :/ |
| 08:08.22 | jolly- | any suggestions? |
| 08:08.31 | paras | chealer, synaptic-0.57.5.1 got it from debian etch |
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| 08:09.08 | chealer | paras: when does it segfault? |
| 08:09.10 | johnny_nubie | it's a busy night in here |
| 08:09.20 | dondelelcaro | jolly-: far better to build a .deb yourself; if you're lazy, try using alien. |
| 08:09.25 | paras | chealer, after doing ./synaptic |
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| 08:10.29 | paras | chealer, nothing comes expetc Segmantation Fault |
| 08:10.40 | jolly- | dondelelcaro I dont have enoug skills to make novell linux for debian:) |
| 08:10.53 | chealer | paras: ./synaptic ? do you run X as root? |
| 08:11.01 | chealer | paras: did you check the BTS? |
| 08:11.01 | paras | chealer, yes |
| 08:11.14 | chealer | paras: bad idea |
| 08:11.25 | chealer | (running X as root) |
| 08:11.25 | paras | chealer, what is BTS? |
| 08:11.34 | chealer | Tell paras about bts |
| 08:11.37 | johnny_nubie | how do i make blockhosts script get executed on each sshd request? |
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| 08:11.41 | chealer | !tell paras about bts |
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| 08:12.01 | paras | chealer, when run as normal user... it asks for password and then segmentaion fault |
| 08:12.14 | AqXP | that site doesn't tell me how to make the mail send |
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| 08:12.20 | AqXP | instead of sititng in /var/mail |
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| 08:13.00 | chealer | paras: ok...check the BTS if you didn't do it already |
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| 08:13.27 | dondelelcaro | jolly-: you may also consider filing an RFP to request that someone package it |
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| 08:14.10 | jolly- | dondelelcaro I see, do you have any sugggetions how to install novell client for linux on debian? |
| 08:14.16 | liable | AqXP: you are being extremely vague and not showing any effort to actually try and understand how email actually works. I suggest you hit google and try learn a bit about it. Email is actually more complicated than most people think. |
| 08:14.42 | paras | chealer, i will check it |
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| 08:16.20 | AqXP | Sorry, my messages have been very fragmented...I have Apache2 and PHP4 and scripts that send E-mails. Those Emails do no send, they just go to /var/mail, I want them to send to people's mailboxes..sop that people can see the mial my scripts are trying to send them...does that make sence?? |
| 08:17.38 | AqXP | I read those links you guys sent me, a great lesson and all but it doesn't help me solve my problem. I tried google and I'm not finding any sites that are helpful |
| 08:17.53 | DarKnesS_WolF | AqXP: |
| 08:18.02 | AqXP | I don't just come in here if I haven't put forth effort myself to figure something out, I was hoping someone could help. |
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| 08:18.18 | DarKnesS_WolF | AqXP: let me c an example .. ur trying to send for someone@localhost ? |
| 08:18.26 | DarKnesS_WolF | and u find the mail @ /var/mail/someone ? |
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| 08:19.25 | AqXP | yup |
| 08:19.41 | AqXP | there is aquillar, mail, and www-data, I'm trying to find a pattern in those files |
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| 08:20.17 | AqXP | www-data has the mail that should go out to other users |
| 08:20.41 | AqXP | aquillar has mail that should go to me |
| 08:20.51 | AqXP | everything is coming form php scripts |
| 08:21.16 | paras | chealer, found the problem at BTS |
| 08:21.31 | paras | chealer, removed scim input and synaptic working now... |
| 08:21.36 | chealer | paras: nice :) |
| 08:21.41 | paras | chealer, but i need scim... problem :) |
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| 08:22.43 | w3rdn4 | why do I get open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory |
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| 08:24.08 | streuner | w3rdn4: your floopy, right? |
| 08:24.10 | AqXP | w3rdn4: you need to mount it first |
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| 08:24.21 | hcy | hi, can someone give me a hand setting up a new printer? it's a usb printer, i've always only used parallel printers in the past. the printer works in windows, but now i'd like to get it to work in linux (debian). It comes with a linux driver on CD, but when I try installing it in cups I get an error "add-printer failed: client-error-not-possible" |
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| 08:24.46 | streuner | hcy: hp inkjet? |
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| 08:24.57 | hcy | streuner: it's a xerox phaser 3116 laser printer |
| 08:24.57 | liable | hcy: are there native drivers available? linuxprinting.org |
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| 08:25.09 | AqXP | DarKnesS_WolF: any ideas? |
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| 08:25.48 | hcy | one thing at a time, though... how can i just echo some plain text to the printer? i don't know what the device would be called under linux... echo 'hello' > /dev/lp0 probably won't do it right? |
| 08:25.51 | chealer | w3rdn4: because you don't have a framebuffer? |
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| 08:27.04 | roLadn | hi all |
| 08:27.05 | AqXP | well thanks for the help guys...I've been up very late trying to solve this one and I better get to bed |
| 08:27.06 | hcy | no, i take that back. echo 'hello' > /dev/usb/lp0 *does* do something... though i probably need to also echo a pagefeed or something |
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| 08:27.20 | hcy | the machine made some noise but no page came out |
| 08:27.27 | w3rdn4 | how do I remove a package i installed with dpkg -i ? |
| 08:27.38 | dondelelcaro | w3rdn4: with dpkg -r foopkg |
| 08:27.48 | valdyn | hcy: if you hit the page forward button on that printer it should print too |
| 08:27.54 | w3rdn4 | where are all the packages? |
| 08:28.10 | bibe | w3rdn4 : dpkg -r <package> |
| 08:28.15 | hcy | valdyn: i don't think it has such a button :P |
| 08:28.26 | roLadn | help needed - my xserver suddenly crashed and had this message: cant open input device /dev/input/mice device not found |
| 08:28.31 | hcy | valdyn: never mind |
| 08:28.45 | roLadn | the perms are crw-rw---- |
| 08:28.50 | roLadn | any idea? |
| 08:28.51 | hcy | valdyn: actually, mind... pressing the button just printed the test page |
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| 08:29.27 | hcy | ok who knows how to echo a pagefeed to a printer? what's the escape code? |
| 08:29.29 | valdyn | hcy: hmm, i dont know your printer, mine will do just that only if i hold down that button for a few secs |
| 08:29.44 | hcy | valdyn: just pressing it briefly did absolutely nothign |
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| 08:30.38 | w3rdn4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.38 | w3rdn4 | dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in |
| 08:30.42 | roLadn | xserver denies to run any more :( |
| 08:30.54 | windowlicker | roLadn does cat /dev/input/mice give anything when you move the mouse? |
| 08:31.08 | liable | hehe, i thought that response was removed from dpkg. :) |
| 08:31.15 | valdyn | roLadn: did you unplug your mouse by mistake? |
| 08:31.18 | roLadn | windowlicker, just a minute... |
| 08:31.21 | hcy | can someone please tell me how to get the printer to spit out a 'hello', please, without any special formatting? |
| 08:31.25 | roLadn | valdyn, no |
| 08:32.12 | liable | w3rdn4: you need to remove the package, not the deb. dpkg -r directfb-0.9.24 |
| 08:32.24 | liable | w3rdn4: or just directfb |
| 08:32.25 | Gathond | hcy: depends alot on the actual printer |
| 08:32.54 | w3rdn4 | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove directfb which isn't installed. |
| 08:33.03 | hcy | Gathond: ok how do i get this printer to work then |
| 08:33.21 | Gathond | hcy: most laser printers or expensive inkjets probably support you just sending text data directly to the printer device with echo "text here" > /dev/lp0 (or whatever device) |
| 08:33.33 | roLadn | windowlicker, it says: no device found |
| 08:33.44 | liable | hcy: lpr -P <printer> /etc/fstab |
| 08:33.46 | windowlicker | try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 08:33.49 | Gathond | ahhh, you already tried that :) |
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| 08:33.56 | valdyn | !setup cups |
| 08:34.02 | roLadn | windowlicker, i did already: the effort was void |
| 08:34.04 | valdyn | !cups setup |
| 08:34.04 | dpkg | cups setup is, like, Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy! |
| 08:34.12 | valdyn | hcy: + gs-esp |
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| 08:34.59 | hcy | liable: the printer isn't installed yet, that's the problem i'm having |
| 08:35.00 | Gathond | hcy: try the same with a PS file if you have one in stock |
| 08:35.14 | hcy | and valdyn the cups setup isn't working, like i said |
| 08:35.25 | roLadn | windowlicker, i try once more... |
| 08:36.45 | roLadn | windowlicker, it did not do any good :(( |
| 08:37.15 | windowlicker | ok i dont know so sorry |
| 08:37.20 | hcy | Gathond: catting the ps file to the dev does the same thing - blinks the light for a second but then nothing |
| 08:37.27 | roLadn | hm. thanks a lot anyway |
| 08:38.19 | liable | hcy: if you cant see it in cups admin page, then the driver aint right or something. |
| 08:38.28 | roLadn | valdyn, maybe u do have an idea? |
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| 08:39.04 | valdyn | roLadn: what kind of mouse do you have? |
| 08:39.05 | hcy | liable: i don't see it in the cups admin page. haven't gotten that far - it won't let me install it. it says "add-printer failed: client-error-not-possible" |
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| 08:39.09 | Gathond | hcy: the device might be a so called "windows" printer which in basically incapable of doing anything without its driver then. so your only hope would be to install the driver in cups. unfortunately for you I dont have much experience trouble shooting cups |
| 08:39.22 | roLadn | valdyn, usb, it worked great until the crash |
| 08:39.43 | valdyn | roLadn: 'cat /dev/input/mice' ( type that in a shell and move your mouse around ) |
| 08:40.08 | roLadn | it says: no appropriate device |
| 08:40.15 | valdyn | !usbmouse |
| 08:40.16 | dpkg | i guess usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
| 08:40.17 | liable | roLadn: try another mouse, it may have gone to mouse heaven.. :) |
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| 08:40.31 | Gathond | hcy: you are logged into cups as root? |
| 08:40.34 | hcy | i found this on linuxprinting: "I have a printing Xerox Phaser 3116, it have a Driver for Linux, but this no run under Mandrake Linux 10.0. then I find that Driver of Samsumg ML-1710 it´s same for two types of printig.Well this is all." |
| 08:40.45 | roLadn | the lights do work, okay, i try another mouse |
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| 08:41.09 | hcy | Gathond: the cups browser admin thingy asked me for my root password, which i gave it |
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| 08:41.25 | roLadn | valdyn, thanks a lot, i go and buy a new one :) |
| 08:41.30 | roLadn | bye all! |
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| 08:50.40 | w3rdn4 | Does anyone know of a good free game out there to waste some time with? |
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| 08:51.46 | SlayerXP | w3rdn4: frozen bubble |
| 08:52.14 | liable | tuxracer, neverball, supertux, (basic but ok) |
| 08:52.33 | SlayerXP | neverball is fun |
| 08:52.34 | w3rdn4 | any first person shooters, or stuff like contra? |
| 08:52.46 | jm_ | w3rdn4: Free tennis |
| 08:53.06 | sep | w3rdn4, wolfenstein enemy territory |
| 08:53.34 | sep | w3rdn4, free game. online multiplayer FPS, |
| 08:54.23 | sep | w3rdn4, both linux and windows client, but the linux one feels/acts better, i displed the gamebrowser tho so i use the x?? what's it called again gamebrowser |
| 08:54.50 | sep | s/displed/disliked/ |
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| 08:57.54 | w3rdn4 | you use x instead? |
| 08:57.56 | w3rdn4 | what do you mean/ |
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| 08:58.07 | xunken | does debian have a virus scanner..? |
| 08:58.11 | deeLer | i've downloaded that netinstall liable , now i'm trying to install an X server , i've apt-get installed all the X packages .... startx now gives: xinit: server error , any ideas ? |
| 08:58.21 | SlayerXP | xunken: no, it has several. |
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| 08:59.41 | deeLer | does anyone know how to solve this (when doing an startx) xinit: server error |
| 09:00.03 | The_Vulture | perhaps the logs might tell you something.. |
| 09:00.47 | deeLer | no , nothing there |
| 09:00.48 | liable | deeLer: what did you install exactly? just the xserver? |
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| 09:00.59 | crowd | xunken : clamscan |
| 09:01.02 | lethias | where do you put true type fonts at ? |
| 09:01.09 | deeLer | x-server, x-common, xutils, xdm, xfs |
| 09:01.28 | deeLer | and xbase |
| 09:01.31 | xelam | -at |
| 09:01.32 | lethias | I'm not sure if its /usr/share/fonts/truetype or just in the fonts folder |
| 09:01.35 | liable | deeLer: why didnt you just install x-window-system? |
| 09:01.48 | liable | or -core. |
| 09:01.50 | deeLer | liable, i didn't know |
| 09:01.53 | DarKnesS_WolF | how can i burn data dvds in debian ? xcdroast asking for scsi-emulater... should i enable scsi emulation in debian ? |
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| 09:02.08 | xelam | not in 2.6 |
| 09:02.17 | liable | deeLer: try it, see if it picks up more packages. |
| 09:02.56 | deeLer | liable, it has picked up some libraries and fonts, but still xinit: server error |
| 09:03.15 | xunken | what are debians advantages, say, over gentoo..? |
| 09:03.28 | liable | deeLer: check the bts for etch i guess. |
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| 09:03.42 | xelam | xunken: you don't waste weeks compiling/manually configuring everything |
| 09:04.01 | liable | you help reduce greenhouse emmisions? |
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| 09:05.19 | dvsdude | xunken, i liked my gentoo install untill i found it painfull to configure media players but all in all its alright but i'd say im a debian dude it has super cow powers |
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| 09:06.15 | liable | deeLer: plenty of hits for that error. |
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| 09:07.09 | liable | you can still waste weeks configuring debian, which is actually a good thing if you like tinkering. :) |
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| 09:07.33 | liable | the compiling is the complete waste of time. |
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| 09:07.50 | Kovecses | anyone use that new graphical install? |
| 09:07.53 | dorto | anyone has successfully used debian to build a simple gnu/linux distro as described by 'Linux From Scratch'? |
| 09:07.58 | fpitt | hi. anyone can help me about installing debian sid into a chroot environment? |
| 09:08.19 | dorto | is debian sufficient for the job or should i download the Linux FRom Scratch LiveCD? |
| 09:08.28 | Kovecses | dorto, if you want to do that just use lfs |
| 09:08.42 | liable | !dfs |
| 09:08.43 | dpkg | it has been said that dfs is Debian From Scratch, is a new unofficial installer for Debian with software raid support and other goodies. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/05/msg01431.html for details. |
| 09:09.06 | dorto | Kovecses: ' lfs' means lfs live cd? |
| 09:09.18 | dvsdude | fpitt, for help with chroot check out knoppix remaster its very helpfull |
| 09:09.32 | dorto | liable: Debian From Scratch allows to create a small gnu/linux system based on debian? |
| 09:09.43 | Kovecses | dorto, no i meant linux from scratch .... debian is way different |
| 09:09.43 | liable | dorto: dunno, read the link. |
| 09:09.53 | DarKnesS_WolF | xelam: xcdroast gave me lots of wrrors .. |
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| 09:10.14 | xelam | ah well I've never used it |
| 09:10.20 | dorto | Kovecses: i meant can debian be used as the host system to follow the guidelines of Linux From Scratch book? |
| 09:10.26 | DarKnesS_WolF | xelam: writing will be slow if i didn't scsi emulation . and i can't burn dvds cuz i don't have cdrecord.prodvd or ProDVD tool. |
| 09:10.39 | DarKnesS_WolF | xelam: even cdrecord -scanbus show nothing. |
| 09:12.00 | fpitt | dvsdude, my problem is that when I add the tty8 to /etc/inittab, like it is described in the debian documentation, ctrl-alt-f8 doens't work.. |
| 09:13.28 | FarrisG | where in the world in /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template do you specify the path to the maildirs? |
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| 09:15.20 | dvsdude | fpitt, im not sure but from what i have done with knoppix remaster i have been able to chroot in then mount the proc adjust the resolv.conf file and from there been able to apt-get install and remove packages to produce a remastered knoppix distro, i also made other system changes i created the www.cheapestpc.com.au knoppix remaster with additions for the company to have there name and other info and scripts inluded |
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| 09:16.43 | SerajewelKS | does anyone know of any cross-platform program that will tunnel a TCP connection inside UDP datagrams? |
| 09:17.03 | dvsdude | fpitt, i know this doesnt really help your situation but i just worked of a knoppix install and a konsole for my chroot enviro soz cant be of more help |
| 09:17.07 | SerajewelKS | e.g. set up endpoints on a debian and windows box, and tunnel a connection |
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| 09:17.28 | FarrisG | SerajewelKS: OpenVPN ? |
| 09:17.41 | liable | FarrisG: in update.con.conf dc_localdelivery=maildir_home ( i think thats what you're after) |
| 09:17.52 | w3rdn4 | is there a way to monitor all the computers I am connected to through WAN? |
| 09:17.56 | SerajewelKS | FarrisG: is there a windows client for that? |
| 09:18.15 | fpitt | dvsdude, thx |
| 09:18.35 | SerajewelKS | FarrisG: and does it require root privileges (e.g. for tun/tap) or will it operate in userspace like ssh -L/-R? |
| 09:18.56 | dvsdude | fpitt, np do you have a link for the debian doc. wouldnt mind checking it out |
| 09:18.57 | Kovecses | is k3b in testing yet?? |
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| 09:19.32 | liable | !info k3b etch |
| 09:20.16 | liable | no.. |
| 09:20.43 | liable | !info k3b |
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| 09:21.43 | SerajewelKS | FarrisG: openvpn looks like a partial solution, but it's too involved. i'm looking for something similar to ssh connection tunneling: tunnel a single connection, so no need for installing network adapters (windows) or setting up tun/tap devices (linux) |
| 09:21.52 | fpitt | dvsdude, apt-get install debian-reference |
| 09:21.52 | liable | hmm, why didnt dpkg give info for sid?.. |
| 09:22.10 | dvsdude | fpitt, cheers |
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| 09:22.31 | SimonRaven | dpkg ping |
| 09:22.31 | dpkg | pong |
| 09:22.37 | SimonRaven | dpkg foo |
| 09:22.37 | dpkg | somebody said foo was the first metasyntactic variable, it's a placeholder for some other term. See <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/foo.html> and <bar> |
| 09:22.38 | liable | meh, i seem to be having dns lookup problems today. |
| 09:22.46 | SimonRaven | it's alive... |
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| 09:23.17 | SimonRaven | when i have dns problems the only person i can blame is me ;) |
| 09:23.17 | liable | FarrisG: http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/exim4_courier/exim4.html#maildir |
| 09:23.59 | liable | heh |
| 09:27.23 | liable | !hi |
| 09:27.23 | dpkg | hello, liable |
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| 09:28.29 | w3rdn4 | et-linux-2.60.x86.run |
| 09:28.29 | w3rdn4 | bash: et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found |
| 09:29.32 | liable | supply the full path.. |
| 09:30.04 | blame | ;) |
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| 09:30.37 | saloxin | w3rdn4: is et in your path or do you have to ./et ? |
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| 09:32.34 | zOrK | adsl-dhcp ? |
| 09:32.37 | zOrK | thats sound great :P |
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| 09:33.41 | SerajewelKS | this is more of a network question than a debian question, but is it possible to set up any kind of tunnel (TCP or UDP) between two hosts sitting behind different gateways? |
| 09:34.08 | SerajewelKS | assuming the gateways are doing outbound NAT but not inbound |
| 09:34.37 | petemc | SerajewelKS: at least one of them would need to be doing inbound forwarding |
| 09:34.46 | sep | SerajewelKS, yes if one of the gateways portforward in to the inside host. otherways you have to do it via a third open host on the net |
| 09:35.12 | w3rdn4 | what are some skills a computer company mightlook for? |
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| 09:35.42 | SerajewelKS | petemc, sep: not even for UDP? |
| 09:35.46 | Assassin5 | is there a command to watch the command prompt of another user that's logged on? |
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| 09:35.55 | sep | SerajewelKS, ofcouse. |
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| 09:36.41 | liable | Assassin5: look at ttysnoop if you must. |
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| 09:37.22 | petemc | Assassin5: if that person is using screen its easy |
| 09:37.59 | Jacky | My bule-tooth wireless card still can't work |
| 09:38.07 | Jacky | please Help me |
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| 09:38.31 | Assassin5 | okay. thanks |
| 09:38.35 | SerajewelKS | sep: i'm reading a paper that suggests that it's possible with a middle-man to only relay the first few packets.. but i'm not sure how accurate this is since i only have a basic understanding of NAT |
| 09:38.43 | liable | petemc: how is that out of interest? |
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| 09:38.46 | xelam | Assassin5: no, that's very rude |
| 09:38.46 | KurtKraut | I was trying to install NVIDIA driver following the instructions provided on http://www.debianguide.org/wiki/moin.cgi/NvidiaHowTo bu the 'nvidia-kernel-common' is not found. How should I proceed to install NVIDIA driver on sarge ? |
| 09:39.25 | SerajewelKS | sep: do you happen to have a link handy that describes UDP NAT in detail? |
| 09:39.31 | pacroon | I'm trying to help a Friend who has recently installed Debian. He says that when he logs in with a normal user, he has two mouse pointers, one "X" frozen in the middle and one regular. When he logs in as root there is no problem. I don't really know what to say, can you guys help? |
| 09:39.55 | dvsdude | KurtKraut, download from nvidia the driver then apt-get install kernel-headers to match your running kernel kill x and run nvidia installer |
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| 09:40.20 | liable | dont use the nvidia ones.. |
| 09:40.30 | dvsdude | liable, what?? |
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| 09:40.37 | pacroon | liable: Nice nifty pointer-shadows :)~~ |
| 09:40.37 | dvsdude | liable, why?? |
| 09:40.46 | liable | KurtKraut: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 09:41.02 | KurtKraut | liable, thanks |
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| 09:41.17 | SerajewelKS | sep: the assumption i'm going off of is that when computer A sends a UDP packet out to computer B from port PA to port PB, the gateway opens up a hole in the firewall that redirects traffic from B port PB back to A port PA |
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| 09:41.38 | SerajewelKS | sep: however, will it also redirect traffic from another computer C to port PB to A port PA? |
| 09:41.51 | SerajewelKS | assuming no |
| 09:41.53 | petemc | liable: sorry, was catching up on mail. You su - to the user and run screen -x, if that fails you may need to run chown user `tty` |
| 09:41.55 | liable | KurtKraut: or /msg dpkg nvidia howto |
| 09:42.24 | liable | petemc: oh, thanks. |
| 09:42.34 | liable | sneaky :) |
| 09:42.41 | KurtKraut | liable, how can I add non-free repositories ? Where can I find the addresses ? |
| 09:42.57 | liable | petemc: can you then input? |
| 09:42.59 | wombachi | why is k3b only in stable/unstable, not in testing ? (cfr bug 337755)? |
| 09:43.05 | petemc | liable: yeah, you share the screen |
| 09:43.05 | liable | !non free |
| 09:43.53 | liable | KurtKraut: you just append it to the end of your sources. ie deb blah.debian.org main contrib non-free |
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| 09:44.14 | sep | SerajewelKS, assuming correct |
| 09:44.14 | Kovecses | !k3b |
| 09:44.14 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, k3b is A sophisticated KDE cd burning application, or k3b.sf.net, or 'teh uber'! |
| 09:44.23 | Kovecses | !k3b etch |
| 09:44.26 | w3rdn4 | is a RAID a type of file system? |
| 09:44.32 | liable | KurtKraut: then run update |
| 09:44.34 | w3rdn4 | !RAID |
| 09:44.34 | dpkg | raid is, like, Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks, the opposite of SLED, or what master.debian.org doesn't have See also: raid {0-5}, or http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/, or see http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/markeditorial.html?prodkey=quick_explanation_of_raid, or see <software raid> |
| 09:44.36 | sep | w3rdn4, no |
| 09:44.47 | Rydekull | !teh uber |
| 09:44.57 | liable | petemc: cool. :) |
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| 09:45.38 | SerajewelKS | sep: so in order for the gateway to forward UDP traffic from the public to the private side, the host and port must match -- and this info is stored in a table for the router to decide where it goes |
| 09:45.51 | dvsdude | liable, so why not use nvidia driver ??? |
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| 09:46.01 | SerajewelKS | sep: but the port alone is not enough for it to locate the destination |
| 09:46.15 | sep | SerajewelKS, for a gateway to forward traffic from a host on the net to a host inside you must configure a portforwarding rule |
| 09:46.16 | liable | dvsdude: because of the amount of people who come here complaining about it. |
| 09:46.30 | liable | dvsdude: how it breaks shit. |
| 09:46.54 | sep | SerajewelKS, yes a port can be enough. eg from all hosts on the net on port 80 forward to internal host 192.168.1.10 |
| 09:46.57 | dvsdude | liable, far enough ive been using it for over 18 months run ut2003 et no probs but fair enough |
| 09:47.33 | SerajewelKS | sep: but for simple outbound NAT |
| 09:47.43 | bibe | hi all. I am looking for a xen tutorial for debian, possibly involving kernel compilation with make-kpkg. Any hint? |
| 09:48.13 | dvsdude | liable, ut2004 sorry havent had any probs and every one i know use it but hay i dont know many people lol |
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| 09:48.33 | SerajewelKS | sep: i.e. we're assuming when i start talking to someone on skype, my computer sends out a UDP packet to the other computer. the gateway sees this and makes a note in its routing table that inbound UDP packets from that host on that port should come to my computer, right? |
| 09:48.53 | SerajewelKS | sep: at least until no packets have been exchanged for a while |
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| 09:49.36 | FarrisG | is there an easy way to merge two maildirs? |
| 09:49.40 | wombachi | Rydekull what did you mean about k3b not in etch ? Is it because of grave bugs (k3b is in unstable)? |
| 09:50.03 | sep | SerajewelKS, that's a nat table not a routing table. it's can be thought of as a very spesific host/port redirect yes, but have nothing to do with connection inititated from outside |
| 09:50.03 | Rydekull | wombachi: excuse me? |
| 09:50.19 | SerajewelKS | sep: right |
| 09:51.07 | wombachi | Rydekull you wrote "!teh uber" but I didnt understand |
| 09:51.11 | SerajewelKS | sep: so my question is if i "punch a hole" in the firewall by sending a UDP packet out to host A on port A, host B can't reach me simply by sending a UDP packet to the gateway on port A |
| 09:51.21 | sep | SerajewelKS, correct |
| 09:51.28 | SerajewelKS | sep: okay, so that sucks |
| 09:51.38 | sep | SerajewelKS, no that do not suck |
| 09:52.04 | sep | SerajewelKS, it would have been a enormus sercurity hole :) |
| 09:52.13 | wombachi | FarrisG use a mail client and simply move mails ? |
| 09:52.14 | SerajewelKS | sep: well the gateway wouldn't be rewriting the "from" IP |
| 09:52.22 | SerajewelKS | sep: so my computer could tell it's not from A, but from B |
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| 09:52.56 | sep | SerajewelKS, would still forward it. and that's not how a gateway should act. get official ip's if you must. or just setup a simple portforward if you must. |
| 09:52.57 | FarrisG | wombachi: Will mutt do that? I have to automate it, as I need to do this for all of my users |
| 09:53.26 | liable | merge maildir with mbox? |
| 09:53.29 | SerajewelKS | sep: i've been pondering the idea of figuring out how different NAT software packages number the "from" ports of outgoing UDP traffic |
| 09:53.30 | wombachi | FarrisG afaik mutt supports maildir and mbox formats |
| 09:53.31 | w3rdn4 | w3rdn4:/home/w3rdn4/Desktop# /home/w3rdn4/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run |
| 09:53.32 | w3rdn4 | bash: /home/w3rdn4/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run: Permission denied |
| 09:53.32 | Rydekull | wombachi: and what does that have to do with k3b not being in testing? |
| 09:53.38 | sep | SerajewelKS, even the cheapes broadband router can do portforwarding so yours can too i bet |
| 09:54.01 | sep | SerajewelKS, different vendors probably have different aproches |
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| 09:54.27 | SerajewelKS | sep: if i can figure out how two different gateways do that, it should be enough to send a UDP packet to both gateways from corresponding computers in the other gateway to fool both gateways into forwarding UDP traffic through each other |
| 09:54.28 | pacroon | I'm trying to help a friend who has recently installed Debian. He says that when he logs in with a normal user, he has two mouse pointers, one "X" frozen in the middle and one regular. When he logs in as root there is no problem. I don't really know what to say, can you guys help? |
| 09:54.52 | SerajewelKS | sep: problem is i'm on a university network, so is my brother |
| 09:54.59 | sep | w3rdn4, you can't ask a permision denied question that's illegal .. google for it |
| 09:55.00 | wombachi | Rydekull that was the question I asked first. I thought it was some kind of answer |
| 09:55.04 | liable | pacroon: check xsession-errors i guess, sounds unusual though. |
| 09:55.07 | SerajewelKS | sep: trying to figure out a crafty way of setting up a VPN between us over UDP |
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| 09:55.21 | fsancho | hi all |
| 09:55.22 | SerajewelKS | sep: UDP should be easier since i can send a lot of packets and not have to worry about SYN and FIN crap |
| 09:55.25 | fsancho | hi all |
| 09:55.34 | pacroon | liable: Yeah, really odd |
| 09:55.38 | fsancho | i have a problem with xterm |
| 09:55.50 | wombachi | FarrisG if you have to automate it, try to write a little Perl script (I'm sure there are mail modules on CPAN) |
| 09:55.52 | fsancho | i need to read a magnetic card reader |
| 09:55.58 | Rydekull | wombachi: no, I have nothing at all to do with yourquestion |
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| 09:56.06 | Rydekull | wombachi: or discussion for that matter |
| 09:56.10 | fsancho | the code i have to read is between ^ character |
| 09:56.10 | sep | SerajewelKS, circumventing your campus firewall is probably not allowed, but why dont just use ssh ? |
| 09:56.13 | SerajewelKS | sep: i need to write a paper on this or something.. i don't think i'm explaining it very well |
| 09:56.23 | SerajewelKS | sep: it's not circumventing |
| 09:56.26 | fsancho | but xterm doesn't print the sequence ^ followed by any character |
| 09:56.32 | wombachi | Rydekull ok, sorry |
| 09:56.37 | fsancho | in a text console it works |
| 09:56.50 | fsancho | i have readed stty man page |
| 09:57.03 | SerajewelKS | sep: my brother and i *want* to establish a connection. it's only coincidence that we're both firewalled. i'm just figuring out if i can use the firewall's UDP NAT rules to do this. |
| 09:57.23 | SerajewelKS | sep: and this technique would only work if there were willing participants on both ends |
| 09:57.23 | fsancho | but i cant reproduce the settings of a text console in a xterm console |
| 09:57.39 | sep | SerajewelKS, even if you and your brother wants to, dosnt mean that your firewall admins want you to do so |
| 09:58.10 | SerajewelKS | sep: as far as the firewall admins would care, i'm just connecting to another host online |
| 09:58.21 | SerajewelKS | sep: just that host happens to be a gateway to my brother's university |
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| 09:59.17 | sep | SerajewelKS, ask them then. |
| 09:59.32 | sep | SerajewelKS, besides ssh sounds to me like a much easier solution |
| 09:59.59 | SerajewelKS | sep: except that you can't use ssh between two firewalled hosts... which is what this idea solves |
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| 10:00.36 | SerajewelKS | sep: afaik the people at my college and my bro's college don't want us to connect directly. it would just be too much trouble to give me a public IP, or him a public IP, or set up forwarding rules. |
| 10:00.46 | SerajewelKS | don't care if we connect directly* |
| 10:00.51 | wombachi | FarrisG If you know Perl, try the Mail::Box::* modules : http://search.cpan.org/~markov/Mail-Box-2.063/lib/Mail/Box-Overview.pod |
| 10:01.02 | SerajewelKS | sep: yeah that came out the opposite of what i meant =) |
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| 10:01.44 | loca|host | re all |
| 10:03.14 | SerajewelKS | sep: this is more of a technical interest to me than a "let's break the rules" thing |
| 10:03.19 | SerajewelKS | sep: i like trying things =) |
| 10:03.35 | kevix | SerajewelKS, would this help? http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/21/tunneling_ssh_over_d.html |
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| 10:04.14 | SerajewelKS | kevix: holy CRAP... that would let me bypass the #$%& cisco crap here |
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| 10:04.30 | sep | SerajewelKS, you can ssh from both sites to a third host and create a tunnel that goes thru the thirs one |
| 10:04.31 | SerajewelKS | kevix: doesn't help with this problem, but i'll file that away for future use =) |
| 10:04.43 | SerajewelKS | sep: right but that would assume that i have a willing middle-man |
| 10:04.49 | sep | SerajewelKS, naturally |
| 10:04.56 | sep | SerajewelKS, or any free shell or whatever |
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| 10:05.10 | SerajewelKS | sep: and if this technique can be implemented, it allows the traffic to go from computer A, out through its gateway, right into B's gateway, and to B |
| 10:05.15 | SerajewelKS | sep: no middle man required |
| 10:05.43 | c_k | Hi all, what is the package called that you can use to bouce a port to another IP , i.e. I want to bounce ftp to another server totally but users not to know the difference |
| 10:05.56 | c_k | sure it was called tcpbounce or something similar |
| 10:06.25 | SerajewelKS | sep: this assumes that computer A and B are willing to talk to each other, and required active participation from both computers |
| 10:06.31 | SerajewelKS | requires* |
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| 10:06.47 | sep | SerajewelKS, but you probably need to time this acuratly and craft fake packages that your firewall probably should block if it is any good |
| 10:06.54 | SimonRaven | feck, that sucks, instead of ignoring files that aren't under VC, it pukes... must be some config setting to turn that off |
| 10:07.09 | SerajewelKS | sep: time accurately, yes, very much so. but the "fake packages" are simply UDP packets |
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| 10:08.00 | SerajewelKS | sep: if both NAT tables can be "punched" through simultaneously, and the NAT'd port on both sides be guessed beforehand, then the initial UDP packets will open the hole for packets from the other gateway |
| 10:08.06 | sep | SerajewelKS, well try it then i guess it's easy to test it with nc |
| 10:08.30 | SerajewelKS | sep: first i write the paper so i clarify the details to myself |
| 10:09.08 | w3rdn4 | hmmm |
| 10:09.33 | w3rdn4 | for some reason I cannot get ET to work with my display, I use a Geforce 2 nvidia |
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| 10:11.24 | w3rdn4 | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 10:11.24 | w3rdn4 | GL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect |
| 10:11.28 | HolyGoat | Anyone happen to know in which package tc resides? |
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| 10:12.14 | hackeron_ | hey, I'm trying to create a software raid out of a couple of new disks, but it says 'mdadm: error opening /dev/md1: No such file or directory' - and naturally /dev/md1 isnt there as it doesnt exist yet, any suggestions? |
| 10:12.24 | HolyGoat | oh wait, got it, iproute |
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| 10:12.47 | sep | hackeron_, youv loaded the kernel modules ?` |
| 10:13.05 | hackeron_ | sep: yes, of course -- my / is on raid1 |
| 10:13.17 | hackeron_ | sep: I have /dev/md0 |
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| 10:14.31 | sep | hackeron_, then you are typing your mdadm command wrongly |
| 10:14.43 | hackeron_ | sep: nope, I'm using a tested example |
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| 10:15.45 | hackeron_ | sep: found this: http://www.issociate.de/board/goto/515877/error_opening_/dev/md2:_No_such_file_or_directory.html#msg_515877 - seems to be a bug in mdadm not working with udev |
| 10:16.46 | sep | hackeron_, good :) why did you ask then :) |
| 10:17.34 | jolly- | any idea how i can get my alt gr butt working again? when iam trying to get a @ iam getting " instead |
| 10:18.25 | TheCount | jolly-: what keys are you using? |
| 10:18.26 | hackeron_ | sep: I found that page after I asked |
| 10:18.47 | w3rdn4 | how do I find out if my kernel works with nvidia? |
| 10:19.10 | jolly- | alt gr + 2 |
| 10:19.14 | jolly- | norwegian keyboard |
| 10:19.15 | liable | yay, udev strikes again. |
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| 10:19.49 | enveezee | liable: did you say doughnuts? |
| 10:19.55 | ziad | hi all |
| 10:20.01 | ziad | i need help |
| 10:20.10 | enveezee | me too I need sugar |
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| 10:20.22 | liable | mmmm, doughnuts. |
| 10:20.32 | ziad | i need to know how i can block msn messanger on squid |
| 10:20.34 | enveezee | not sure when the store opens though |
| 10:20.59 | enveezee | corporate website doesnt even put this town on the map |
| 10:21.01 | poncha|work | i have an eth controller which identifies as "Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11)". using tg3 (Tigon3) module for it... but it stays 100mbit.. how can i switch the card to gigabit ? (switch is in auto mode) |
| 10:21.11 | SerajewelKS | sep: looks like someone else had my idea already: http://linide.sourceforge.net/nat-traverse/ |
| 10:21.48 | poncha|work | btw how can i see what mode the card is in on the machine itself ? (i see that link is 100mbit only on switch) |
| 10:22.19 | SerajewelKS | sep: damn i wasted the last 10 minutes writing this paper =) |
| 10:22.19 | enveezee | yee haw they open in 35 minutes I am gonna storm the bakery |
| 10:22.31 | enveezee | and get some chocolate milk |
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| 10:23.49 | enveezee | I wasted the last 10 minutes not understanding how to do cookies in javascript |
| 10:24.04 | taoub | Hi i have a problem, i couldn't solve by myself. Troubles with Cyrus/TLS. Could anyone help me? |
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| 10:24.12 | enveezee | then I just said fuck it, doughnuts |
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| 10:24.45 | enveezee | doughnuts are better than cookies anyhow |
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| 10:25.01 | gino | hello |
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| 10:25.31 | G2 | what tool can I use to list and set system startup services? Thanks |
| 10:25.36 | kevix | enveezee, I just consumed my morining supply of sugar, creamcheese/jelly sandwitch (almost like a jelly doughnut) |
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| 10:26.07 | enveezee | G2: update-rc.d, rcconf, ls, ln, rm |
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| 10:26.15 | gino | do you know how to stop NIS services YP bind to serveur at the boot ? |
| 10:26.31 | enveezee | kevix: was better than a cookie though right? |
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| 10:27.00 | G2 | enveezee: ta ;-) |
| 10:27.05 | liable | G2: sysvinit sysv-config and as enveezee said update-rc.d |
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| 10:27.34 | djp | i'm using evolution to collect my email. is a log kept of all messages retrieved via pop? |
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| 10:27.44 | kevix | enveezee, sugary sweet, yea! |
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| 10:28.23 | enveezee | wang: ever hang out with your wang out? |
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| 10:29.07 | enveezee | sometimes I rock out with my cock out |
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| 10:29.26 | kevix | djp, not the last I heard. |
| 10:29.38 | enveezee | once I did it so long, I thought I'd pass out with my ass out. |
| 10:29.47 | poncha|work | guys.. how can i force eth card act gigabit? |
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| 10:30.15 | djp | kevix, ok. thanks. |
| 10:30.19 | kevix | mii-tools ? |
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| 10:31.23 | kevix | poncha|work, usually kernel modules have option to set. |
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| 10:31.59 | poncha|work | kevix, it's the tg3 (tigon3 - broadcom chipset card) ... but i fail to find tg3's docs |
| 10:32.25 | petemc | poncha|work: ethtool should work |
| 10:32.39 | liable | G2: why ask here if you use ubuntu? |
| 10:32.51 | poncha|work | petemc, checking, thanks |
| 10:33.03 | G2 | liable: I don't just use ubuntu server. we have both |
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| 10:35.16 | SerajewelKS | sep: do you know if UDP NAT will modify the source port? |
| 10:35.37 | poncha|work | petemc, once it (ethtool) changes card settings, it will persist (in case machine is rebooted) ? |
| 10:35.54 | SerajewelKS | e.g. if I send a packet to A:B from port C, through gateway D, will A see the packet as coming from D:B, or will it assign a random source port? |
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| 10:36.46 | Noid_ | I have a 10 GB partition upon which I restore a 4 GB ext3 fs. I try to expand it with resize2fs and it tells me it's already the biggest size it can be, am I doing something wrong? |
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| 10:37.57 | Noid | I have a 10 GB partition upon which I restore a 4 GB ext3 fs. I try to expand it with resize2fs and it tells me it's already the biggest size it can be, am I doing something wrong? |
| 10:38.25 | TheCount | Noid: hm. what inode size does the ext3fs have right now? |
| 10:40.03 | pzn | Hi! is there any target in iptables (nat table) which I can use to skip nat? |
| 10:40.04 | Noid | TheCount: how do I look it? resize2fs only asked about block sizes |
| 10:40.23 | TheCount | Noid: tune2fs |
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| 10:40.51 | Noid | TheCount: nevermind, I found the problem, stupid error I made, thanks for the help though |
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| 10:41.26 | Makro | hello guys |
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| 10:41.58 | Zagor | does anyone know why apt-get dist-upgrade wants to install apache2 on my 'testing' machine? I have apache 1 and do not want to upgrade. |
| 10:42.16 | fatal_ | pzn: the default is to not do NAT, so don't add any rules unless you want to do NAT. |
| 10:42.23 | Makro | i got a crashed hard disk, the system can recognize it but it says "unable to read partition table" sector 0, any tool for fix o data recovery? |
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| 10:43.21 | chealer | Zagor: probably just an unoptimal resolution |
| 10:43.56 | jm_ | Makro: you'll have lots of problems if sector is hosed |
| 10:44.25 | fatal_ | pzn: if you want to do NAT for some hosts, and matching only the ones you *do* want to do nat for is to much hassle... create a custom chain, use -j RETURN for any host you *don't* want to nat, and then have the nat rule last in the custom chain.... then call the custom chain from the nat tables builtin chains. |
| 10:44.46 | Makro | jm_: yeah, i know, but i need to try something |
| 10:45.04 | kevix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:45.42 | jm_ | Makro: use dd_rescue to make an image and then toy with the image |
| 10:45.45 | jm_ | ddrescue |
| 10:46.09 | liable | Makro: or gpart |
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| 10:46.16 | Makro | jm_:ok, it has to be dd_rescue or i can use dd anyway? |
| 10:46.19 | pzn | fatal_, I want to NAT to all hosts, except my ISP authenticator host (one IP address) |
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| 10:47.04 | lundse | How do I reconfigure my network setup? (I need to go from a DHCP setup to a static IP setup) |
| 10:47.15 | jm_ | Makro: you can use dd, but ddrescue is more suitable for reading from problematic devices |
| 10:47.18 | pzn | fatal_, do you think creating a custom chain just for that is the only way? |
| 10:47.28 | jm_ | lundse: man interfaces, read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/* |
| 10:47.36 | liable | lundse: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/interfaces.gz |
| 10:47.43 | Makro | jm_: ok |
| 10:47.45 | lundse | jm_, thanks |
| 10:48.04 | Makro | jm_: thanks |
| 10:48.18 | jm_ | Makro: gpart can be used to search for lost partitions |
| 10:48.27 | fatal_ | pzn: you can use ! in your rules to match "anything except ...". |
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| 10:48.58 | Zagor | chealer, kevix: thanks. when I upgraded everything except imagemagick (!) it went ok. |
| 10:49.09 | fatal_ | pzn: like "-d ! 1.2.3.4" is "any destination address except 1.2.3.4". |
| 10:49.16 | Makro | jm_: gpart...ok...i will search for it |
| 10:49.22 | kevix | Makro, are you looking for picture files? |
| 10:49.41 | Makro | kevix: nope, i need some text data |
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| 10:50.32 | saloxin | Makro: you might be able to grep for it :-) |
| 10:50.37 | kevix | Makro, just found this 'apt-cache show testdisk' |
| 10:51.49 | munofiratt | Q. (hello everyone) I want to be able to print to a network printer... the printer has an LAN interface and therefore it is not connected to any PC box, it has a static IP (which I am aware of) and I could not locate any specific instructions as it's an Epson EPL-N2700 |
| 10:52.24 | saloxin | munofiratt: nmap it, so you see which ports are available on it |
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| 10:52.42 | munofiratt | saloxin: please be more specific =/ |
| 10:53.03 | TheCount | munofiratt: use it like an IPP or LP printer |
| 10:53.15 | kevix | munofiratt, have you installed cups? |
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| 10:53.30 | munofiratt | saloxin: ok I'm apt-getting nmap right now |
| 10:53.46 | saloxin | "nmap printer ip" - so you see if it has ipp/lp/whatever open |
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| 10:54.24 | bumpsh3r | i bet it has a nice little web interface for configuration |
| 10:54.33 | bumpsh3r | just try to browse to it through the web |
| 10:54.57 | pzn | fatal_, ok, I can do it this way (-d ! 1.2.3.4), but I really want to know if I can do with (-d 1.2.3.4) and (-j something), and something tells it do to nothing. or this is only possible with a custom chain? |
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| 10:56.09 | dli | checking Tk version... notfound |
| 10:56.22 | bumpsh3r | what're u trying to do pzn? |
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| 10:56.43 | Shadur | dli: Call me batshit crazy, but I think you might need to install Tk. |
| 10:56.55 | bumpsh3r | iptables? |
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| 10:56.56 | liable | dli: thats a useless bit of info. |
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| 10:57.00 | Rocc | hello |
| 10:57.03 | dli | Shadur, yes, which package? |
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| 10:57.12 | Rocc | I'm using cups. how do I know which PPD file I am using ? |
| 10:57.13 | munofiratt | saloxin: check out the nmap output here --> http://pastebin.ca/27866 |
| 10:57.15 | Shadur | Then again, you might not. Hard to tell if you won't tell us what you're trying to do and won't tell us what's going wrong besides one very pithy error message. |
| 10:57.23 | dli | Shadur, I tried "tk8.4 tk8.4-dev" |
| 10:57.34 | dli | Shadur, still not found |
| 10:57.35 | liable | how about saying what the hell you are trying to compile/install/run? |
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| 10:57.49 | w3rdn4 | XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480 |
| 10:57.51 | w3rdn4 | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 10:57.53 | Rocc | and how do I tell the system to use a specific PPD file ? |
| 10:57.53 | dli | liable openpbs |
| 10:58.08 | munofiratt | kevix: what's a quick way to see if I have cups installed? I can tell for sure that there is something named foomatic installed here =/ |
| 10:58.12 | w3rdn4 | Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem |
| 10:58.22 | pureone | dpkg -l | grep cups |
| 10:58.26 | dpkg | ii |
| 10:58.30 | Shadur | Rocc: lpadmin |
| 10:58.37 | saloxin | munofiratt: nice. webinterface, lp and jetdirect support. install cupsys, set it up for jetdirect and away you go :-) |
| 10:58.38 | pureone | dpkg welldone |
| 10:58.41 | liable | dli: compile? |
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| 10:58.47 | dli | liable, right |
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| 10:59.16 | liable | dli: the install/readme doesnt say what version of tk8 you need? |
| 10:59.25 | munofiratt | saloxin: also there is no info for my printer on linuxprinting.org... how I can I fill that info for anyone who might be interested in the future? |
| 10:59.28 | dli | liable, no :( |
| 10:59.33 | kevix | munofiratt, go to http://localhost:631 if you see something, you have cups. |
| 10:59.43 | dli | liable, openpbs is not open at all |
| 10:59.50 | saloxin | munofiratt: 1st, make it print, 2nd post documentation :-) |
| 11:00.04 | saloxin | munofiratt: take kevins advice ^ |
| 11:00.42 | munofiratt | kevix: ok I have cupsys installed and the latest version as I was informed by the apt-get utility |
| 11:00.43 | liable | dli: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=openpbs+tk8+not+found&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 11:00.56 | munofiratt | now... how do I set it up? |
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| 11:01.11 | Rocc | Shadur, how do I show which ppd file it is using, with lpadmin ? |
| 11:01.16 | pzn | bumpsh3r, I'd like to know if I can put in iptables NAT table a -j "something" to skip DNAT,SNAT,... like the "accept" target in input/forward/... is this possible? (i know that creating a custom chain is possible) |
| 11:01.19 | saloxin | munofiratt: point a webbrowser at http://localhost:631 |
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| 11:01.40 | dli | liable, thanks |
| 11:02.05 | liable | np |
| 11:02.12 | munofiratt | wow! an interactive menu =) |
| 11:02.20 | bumpsh3r | pzn: sorry, someone else in here will have to help you, I haven't gotten that advanced into iptables yet |
| 11:02.39 | kevix | munofiratt, what paper size does this use? a3? |
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| 11:02.56 | munofiratt | kevix it has A4 and A3 and many more sizes |
| 11:03.18 | munofiratt | kevix: would the full paper sizes list be of use to you? |
| 11:03.33 | kevix | munofiratt, this may help: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-EPL-N2750 |
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| 11:04.19 | scanwinder | what do i need to put in my .xinitrc file to get blackbox to open when i go "startx" |
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| 11:04.23 | davis | is there a channel for getting help with vncserver running on linux and vnc client running on windows? |
| 11:04.36 | kevix | munofiratt, no I just wanted to know if it was a european or US model. |
| 11:05.22 | munofiratt | kevix: seems to be korean |
| 11:05.47 | kevix | scanwinder, IIRC you put what you want to run first (like xterm) and then the last command is 'exec blackbox' |
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| 11:06.15 | xst | I have reason to belive that my host is listed as a spam-relay somewhere out there, cause some mailservers will not receive mails from my host. (my host was hacked for 2 months ago but it has been reinstalled and the flaw has been fixed). How can I find out why some servers will still not receive mail from my host? |
| 11:06.19 | pzn | bumpsh3r, ok. thanks. |
| 11:06.34 | petemc | xst: google for rbl check |
| 11:06.42 | munofiratt | Q. what's a 'Device URI'? what should I set this to? |
| 11:06.57 | kevix | munofiratt, well, all I know is the us system (letter,legal) and european(a3,a4) not sure what korean is. |
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| 11:07.03 | liable | xst: mail there admins. |
| 11:07.14 | saloxin | xst: send a mail to the mailserver rejecting you, and read the reject for rbl info |
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| 11:07.37 | phil- | how can i let root connect to my local x server? |
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| 11:07.58 | phil- | when running an application. |
| 11:08.01 | liable | phil-: gksu |
| 11:08.04 | saloxin | phil-: use sux instead of su |
| 11:08.10 | phil- | ahh :D |
| 11:08.22 | Shadur | phil-: Or use sudo. |
| 11:08.30 | Makro | apt-cache show testdisk |
| 11:08.35 | scanwinder | kevix: exec blackbox didnt do it |
| 11:08.48 | munofiratt | kevix: in that case it's european |
| 11:08.56 | xst | petemc: I have just made a rbl check at rbls.org. It is apparently NOT listed. Strange. Since the host was hacked it got a new IP as well. Can this new IP have something to do with the rejections? |
| 11:08.57 | munofiratt | kevix: I reside in Greece |
| 11:08.59 | scanwinder | kevix: isnt it like exec /sumthin/blackbox? |
| 11:09.56 | liable | scanwinder: 'which blackbox' then put the full path in. |
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| 11:10.45 | petemc | xst: did you check the ip that is being refused? |
| 11:11.18 | kevix | scanwinder, yea . 'which blackbox' (the full path) |
| 11:11.43 | xst | petemc: Yes |
| 11:11.56 | kevix | scanwinder, make sure to put '&' in from of the other commands so they do not wait forever. |
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| 11:12.15 | paddyez | hi |
| 11:12.33 | munofiratt | I set the 'Device URI' to: ipp://EPL_2700:9100... how's that? |
| 11:12.49 | scanwinder | kevix: its still not working....it just has that.. x window grey and white background and a terminal taking up a quater of the screen |
| 11:12.53 | munofiratt | scanwinder: also consider appening them with the nice command |
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| 11:14.18 | paddyez | when installing tetex bin unstable I get a "update-updmap: cannot read /etc/texmf/updmap.d/00updmap.cfg" And yes the file does not exist. has anyone a clue what to do? |
| 11:14.55 | saloxin | munofiratt: the proof of the pudding lies in the eating.. try printing? |
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| 11:16.08 | liable | paddyez: yes, check bts. |
| 11:16.08 | jm_ | 9100 sounds more like jetdirect than IPP |
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| 11:19.43 | Makro | awww, tik-tok-tik-tok-tik-tok...it seems is not my lucky day |
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| 11:21.10 | w3rdn4 | anyone know why when I try to run et it says Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 11:22.46 | NoobieDoobieDo | w3rdn4: GLX sounds like a video driver issue. I think NVIDIA uses things related to GLX. |
| 11:22.51 | NoobieDoobieDo | Such as GLX Gears, etc. |
| 11:22.51 | enyc | w3rdn4: that means GL Extensions (i.e. OpenGl) are not supported on that X11 dioplay |
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| 11:23.55 | jm_ | makaze: loud noises from the disk? |
| 11:23.58 | jm_ | Makro ^^^^^ |
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| 11:24.11 | enveezee | I wish I could find some sort of simple Graphical Database frontent. to enter and pull up data like access or somthing. so I dont have to sit here trying to make custom websites to organize data |
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| 11:24.40 | w3rdn4 | how do I make sure XFree86-Mesa-libGL is uninstalled? |
| 11:24.58 | paddyez | liable: have not found anything in bts and with google I have not found anything either |
| 11:25.00 | omis | dpkg -l :] |
| 11:25.01 | dpkg | ii :] 3.5-5 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 11:25.42 | Makro | jm_: gpart gives me a fatal error, unable to get sector size...i think this thing is dead..i `m gonna try to use dd with noerror, sync to fill with zeros the bad sectors |
| 11:26.24 | w3rdn4 | enyc, this happens when I run et enemy territory any idea why?? |
| 11:26.28 | Makro | jm: yeah TiK-ToK noises from the disk...it has some rythm |
| 11:26.42 | liable | paddyez: file one then. |
| 11:26.48 | jm_ | Makro: last step is to find partitions manually |
| 11:27.16 | w3rdn4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:27.16 | w3rdn4 | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 11:27.16 | w3rdn4 | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
| 11:27.20 | Makro | jm_: huh..how can i do that |
| 11:27.47 | munofiratt | it seems that the parameter 'Device URI' is the most important parameter... where should I look for help? documenation... |
| 11:27.51 | enyc | w3rdn4: because there is no GL Acceleratoin runnung |
| 11:28.08 | ipixnic | what does the load average syntax stand for? for example 0.93, 0.33, 0.12. |
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| 11:29.00 | bibe_ | ipixnic : it's the processor load in the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes |
| 11:29.12 | jm_ | Makro: ohh just a regular disk editor and lots of time |
| 11:29.12 | ipixnic | oh |
| 11:29.15 | ipixnic | ThankS |
| 11:29.20 | enyc | ipxnic: load over 3 timescales -- load averages for the past 1, 5, |
| 11:29.21 | enyc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.49 | Makro | jm_: that sounds like some days of inmersion |
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| 11:29.52 | ipixnic | : D im having load average: 1.17, 0.65, 0.26 on a 300mhz |
| 11:30.06 | phil- | erm |
| 11:30.07 | jm_ | Makro: well or hours, depending on how skilled/experienced you are with it |
| 11:30.09 | enyc | ipixnic: depends what you running ;-) |
| 11:30.16 | phil- | how can load be over 1? |
| 11:30.25 | ipixnic | i had 7 once ;PP;P |
| 11:30.26 | jm_ | philips: do you know what load means? |
| 11:30.31 | jm_ | phil- ^^^ |
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| 11:30.41 | phil- | i thought it was a decimal percentile |
| 11:30.41 | wombachi | ipixnic load average = avg process number in kernel wait queue iirc |
| 11:30.41 | ipixnic | i ran a homemade overload script |
| 11:30.44 | Oddmonger | hello |
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| 11:30.48 | rapsys | Hy |
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| 11:30.49 | enyc | ipixnic: also' there have been different unix systems with different ways of working out what the 'load average' is anyway! |
| 11:30.56 | rapsys | I have problem with apt |
| 11:30.59 | Oddmonger | is there any known problems with sata and kernel 2.6.8 ? |
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| 11:31.19 | SimonRaven | ipixnic: and you had a load avg. of 7? try 120 |
| 11:31.20 | Makro | jm_: at least dd is getting some zeros (0+19 records in 19+0 records out /dev/hdb input/output error) |
| 11:31.26 | Oddmonger | i had a server which ran pretty well, and today, the sata disk seems dead |
| 11:31.32 | ipixnic | i have 300mhz ;<< |
| 11:31.34 | rapsys | I try to do apt-get install -kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 and it say me it's in the base, but not avaible |
| 11:31.36 | SimonRaven | ipixnic: kernel.org at one point was at ~400 |
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| 11:31.45 | SimonRaven | 7 is nothing |
| 11:31.55 | w3rdn4 | how do I see all the packages I installed within the past hour/? |
| 11:31.58 | phil- | what is 'load' ? |
| 11:31.58 | ipixnic | for my computer it was |
| 11:32.06 | SimonRaven | @load |
| 11:32.07 | Makro | jm: i think i will get a great image full of zeros |
| 11:32.10 | enyc | phil-: depends on context ;p |
| 11:32.11 | Oddmonger | i only get "current sda: sense key medium error" |
| 11:32.13 | wombachi | phil- # of process in kernel wait queue. |
| 11:32.17 | rapsys | hey |
| 11:32.19 | SimonRaven | ravenbird: ping |
| 11:32.19 | ravenbird | pong |
| 11:32.24 | enveezee | w3rdn4: close your eyes and imagine what you've installed in the past hour |
| 11:32.26 | phil- | ah. |
| 11:32.29 | SimonRaven | @wake up |
| 11:32.29 | ravenbird | simonraven: I'm already awake! :) |
| 11:32.30 | rapsys | how could I do to install back a kernel ? |
| 11:32.32 | w3rdn4 | sucks |
| 11:32.44 | w3rdn4 | !nvidia one liner |
| 11:32.44 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 11:32.54 | liable | w3rdn4: bash_history |
| 11:32.55 | bibe_ | w3rdn4 : history? |
| 11:32.58 | wombachi | phil- I got loads of 5 or 6 during backups (processes waiting in IO) |
| 11:32.59 | dli | a quick question, can I use sed to add '#' to the last line of a file, like the vim cmd $s/^/#/g ? |
| 11:33.05 | jm_ | Makro: it stopped so fast? |
| 11:33.27 | enveezee | wombachi: you could look in /root/.bash_history though its not timestamped |
| 11:33.28 | jm_ | dli: you have my permission |
| 11:33.31 | Makro | jm_: nope it still working..now is 0+26 |
| 11:33.46 | ipixnic | i had 0.07 0.07 0.07 in load avg one time ;P; |
| 11:33.47 | wombachi | dli what about echo '#' >> file ? |
| 11:33.52 | ipixnic | i think I took a screenshot |
| 11:33.59 | dli | jm_: belief doesn't matter, what matters is a line of code :( |
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| 11:34.17 | jm_ | dli: but yes, it supports the same style of addresses as vi |
| 11:34.17 | N0S3 | hello ! |
| 11:34.21 | N0S3 | :) |
| 11:34.36 | dli | jm_: great |
| 11:35.05 | Makro | jm_:this noise is starting to dislike me |
| 11:35.16 | enyc | Makro: ?noise? |
| 11:35.29 | wombachi | enveezee: I'm not w3rdn4 |
| 11:36.48 | c_k | so anyone here know about boucing a port to another IP then at all |
| 11:36.51 | dli | jm_: doesn't work, set -i -e '$s/^/#/g' tmem1.txt |
| 11:36.59 | jm_ | dli: set? |
| 11:37.02 | bibe_ | sed |
| 11:37.08 | tarzeau | haha my quadra boots EMILE FLOPPIES!. it's got 9gigs of harddisk, a cd-rom and 10mbit networks! |
| 11:37.32 | dli | jm_: sorry, my typo :( works now |
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| 11:37.49 | jm_ | dli: /g is sort of useless in this case |
| 11:38.19 | enveezee | wombachi: oh, is that why your nicks are different? :P |
| 11:38.27 | dli | jm_: /g is affirmative? right, I always put it there, never thought about it |
| 11:39.05 | jm_ | dli: no, 'g' flag means apply replacement to all matches |
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| 11:39.29 | dli | jm_: see |
| 11:39.37 | munofiratt | well I'm still not having results with the printer |
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| 11:39.49 | kevix | tarzeau, yikes! a quadra? 700? 68040! |
| 11:40.01 | tarzeau | kevix: 650, 68040/33 |
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| 11:40.23 | tarzeau | kevix: i put some memory from one centris into it, just wrote the 2nd floppy. i have another centris i can steal more memory from. hehe |
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| 11:40.27 | tarzeau | kevix: LOL |
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| 11:40.44 | kevix | tarzeau, I just did an upgrade from woody to breezy on my powercomputing 601/300 ! |
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| 11:40.46 | tarzeau | and they wanted to throw it away. heartless peopele |
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| 11:41.04 | coywolf | how to let xmms to play like in hall, in room etc? |
| 11:41.22 | xelam | coywolf: what? |
| 11:41.23 | kevix | tarzeau, do you know what boot loader works with that? I'm using bootx! |
| 11:41.24 | wombachi | enveezee. yes, at least until I stay outside the twighlight zone ;) |
| 11:41.29 | enveezee | whats the simplest way to make a database of information I can browse though graphically? mostly text but if it can support images too that would be nice. best I can come up with is html and I am too lazy to make a template :P |
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| 11:41.37 | tarzeau | kevix: i'm using EMILE from floppy now. |
| 11:41.40 | coywolf | xelam, understand? |
| 11:41.46 | tarzeau | kevix: yoe gave me the tip about EMILE |
| 11:41.49 | dannyr | .I am having trouble getting mail in/out of my router ( using postfix with ssl ) - Does anyone know which ports I should have open? |
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| 11:41.58 | coywolf | xelam, like equalizer |
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| 11:42.04 | munofiratt | Q. how can I redirect the output to an IP address? |
| 11:42.14 | tarzeau | kevix: http://emile.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:42.19 | kevix | tarzeau, moi! that would make wouter happy! |
| 11:42.21 | munofiratt | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.22 | munofiratt | ? |
| 11:42.26 | bbrazil | munofiratt: netcat |
| 11:42.28 | enveezee | I need to index parts/objects I have photos for most of them, some I do not.. even if it were just a really good image database I can use a generic image for things I dont have one for.. I tried kimdaba and hated it :P |
| 11:42.35 | dli | jm_: how do I make the sed cmd via ssh, ssh node001 sed -i -e '$s/^/#/' /etc/fstab |
| 11:42.36 | coywolf | how to let xmms to play like in hall, in room etc? like equalizer |
| 11:42.53 | bbrazil | dli: bit of quoting and that'll work |
| 11:42.54 | enveezee | I just need to easily take and pull up relational information |
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| 11:43.02 | xelam | coywolf: no I don't |
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| 11:43.39 | wombachi | enveezee use a db like mysql (then php and gd)? |
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| 11:43.59 | atp | hey, just tried this on #gaim, but no one seemed to know: anyone know how to change the font in the chat window portion of gaim? |
| 11:44.12 | coywolf | how to let xmms to play like in hall, in room etc? like equalizer xelam |
| 11:44.12 | w3rdn4 | I have two different version of nvidia drivers one is 1.0 and the other is 0.9 and it will not allow me to boot up with nvidia drivers but it allows nv drivers. Any idea why this is happening? I need nvidia for GLX support |
| 11:44.17 | enveezee | I am looking for a lazy solution just to try for now I didnt want to go all out setting up a webserver |
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| 11:44.33 | Coweater | atp: it's controlled by your gtk settings, check the gaim faq |
| 11:44.39 | chealer | w3rdn4: nvidia graphics drivers 0.9? |
| 11:44.56 | atp | Coweater: thanks. |
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| 11:45.52 | enveezee | I could just use dynamic html pages to make it I would have to do changes with an editor though and I would have to design a html template and css style sheet and maybe some javascript |
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| 11:45.56 | w3rdn4 | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! |
| 11:45.56 | w3rdn4 | (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** |
| 11:45.58 | enveezee | I just dont feel like coding :P |
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| 11:46.33 | wombachi | enveezee mm ok, then I wont talk you about quick perl/tk script then |
| 11:46.34 | xunken | i'll code it for you.. for $50/hour.. |
| 11:46.52 | w3rdn4 | chealer, that is a rouge estimate but something like that |
| 11:46.55 | enveezee | only server side scripting I've done is in python and I dont feel like setting up apache either.. |
| 11:47.07 | Makro | it`s a wonderful , wonderful live... |
| 11:47.09 | Makro | shit |
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| 11:48.04 | wombachi | enveezee how about client side scripting (python+gtk)? |
| 11:48.18 | wombachi | enveezee I mean, a local app (not web related) |
| 11:48.22 | enveezee | if I even found some decent free web templates that may help.. I have little creative ability for designing interfaces.. I can dwell on that a long time |
| 11:49.04 | w3rdn4 | how do i back up a config file? |
| 11:49.24 | enveezee | I really dont want to have to script anything. I just want to say Part 40025, Wgt 10.25.. blah photo, next.. and then be able to pull it up later :P |
| 11:49.24 | wombachi | w3rdn4 cp -p /etc/file /etc/file.orig ? |
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| 11:50.07 | enveezee | I would use a spreadsheet but images dont fit nicely in there and I dont really want to see all data at once, want to be able to pull up entried individually |
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| 11:51.03 | w3rdn4 | rename XF86Config.sample XF86Config-4 |
| 11:51.04 | w3rdn4 | Bareword "XF86Config" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. |
| 11:51.04 | w3rdn4 | Bareword "sample" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. |
| 11:51.07 | wombachi | enveezee Hope you wont end up using M$ acce$$ |
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| 11:51.12 | enveezee | if I had an html template I could probably just punch in the data and link all the pages together but I really would like something already made |
| 11:51.14 | xunken | !channels |
| 11:51.19 | jm_ | w3rdn4: man mv |
| 11:52.14 | enveezee | kimdaba is close, but the user interface sucks as do most all QT/KDE apps its too oriented around images and not the data :P |
| 11:52.17 | wombachi | w3rdn4 dont use 'rename' but 'mv' to rename files |
| 11:52.46 | stylish | anyone know how to add more tty consoles on debian. i tried /etc/inittab without any luck is there a special debian config file |
| 11:53.01 | liable | or better still cp |
| 11:53.09 | liable | oh he's gone.. |
| 11:53.12 | wombachi | enveezee OpenOffice.org 2.0 has an access-like app, perhaps it's what you're looking for |
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| 11:53.42 | enveezee | wombachi: I read about that last night.. but OO.o is in unstable :P |
| 11:53.43 | stylish | in the init it configures the terminals does anyone know the config file it uses |
| 11:54.30 | deeLer | i've installed debian via netinstall cd image, and i need X , what packages should i intall to make icewm running ? (not gnome, harddiskspace is limited) |
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| 11:54.54 | w3rdn4 | mind check out my error in Flood? |
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| 11:55.14 | dli | deeLer: apt-get install x-window-system-core icewm |
| 11:55.24 | |dennis| | help: our system seems to be unresponsive at this moment. All teerminals are unaccessible accept the one i am on obviously. two messages keep going across the screen>> printk: 18 messages suppressed and >> dsk cache overflow . any ideas? |
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| 11:55.32 | deeLer | dli .. okay thx |
| 11:55.48 | azreal | can someone help me install debian on my atari 2600? |
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| 11:56.01 | dli | |dennis|, disk full? df -h |
| 11:56.23 | w3rdn4 | never mind this is what it says My kernel module for Nvidia does not match the driver version. the module version is 0.7471.0 and the driver version is 1.0XXX |
| 11:56.32 | deeLer | dli , i forgot to say: i also need grpahical login .... can you advice me what packages to install ? |
| 11:56.35 | |dennis| | dli > shall reboot and check...wont let me do anything......just a sec.. |
| 11:56.48 | wombachi | deeLer xdm |
| 11:57.07 | enveezee | I may just code a script in $FOO language to make data files and use css, javascript, and html to display it |
| 11:57.52 | enveezee | I will look around for some kind of web template.. page layout and gui layout isnt my thing.. I do the math and stuff. I cant decide if a button should be on the left or right, or what color the bg should be |
| 11:57.55 | wombachi | enveezee If your datas are mainly txt, then FOO=Perl seems a good choice, if you know it |
| 11:58.00 | dli | deeLer, I use gdm myself |
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| 11:58.20 | deeLer | do i have to install xdm first ? prior to icewm ? |
| 11:58.28 | dli | deeLer, for limited diskspace, use xdm :) |
| 11:58.51 | enveezee | wombachi: my strengths are sadly bash and python |
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| 11:59.18 | wombachi | deeLer you can use a wm without a dm (with startx by example) |
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| 12:00.03 | deeLer | i know, but i'd preferer graphical login |
| 12:00.15 | munofiratt | "Connected to host, sending print job..." - Device URI: socket://192.168.10.80:9100 |
| 12:00.21 | munofiratt | and no print comes out... |
| 12:00.22 | deeLer | do i have to install xdm first ? prior to icewm ? |
| 12:00.31 | azreal | deeLer: no |
| 12:00.32 | enveezee | I've experience with cgi in python, I may use a light cgi server locally and make the data entry an html form too |
| 12:00.33 | stylish | anyone know how to add more tty consoles on debian. i tried /etc/inittab without any luck is there a special debian config file |
| 12:00.39 | stylish | in the init it configures the terminals does anyone know the config file it uses |
| 12:00.40 | wombachi | deeLer so xdm is a good choice (not big, good old app) |
| 12:00.51 | deeLer | okay |
| 12:01.14 | |dennis| | dLi> nope. not a disk space problem. plenty of space available... |
| 12:01.20 | enveezee | the OO.o Html editor I was trying to use earlier doesnt do embedded tables :P I am gonna have to write the code by hand :P |
| 12:01.38 | munofiratt | and the documentation does not make clear what does it mean with the term 'name': the Print Server name? the Printer Name? the NetBIOS name? the Device Name?... I'm lost |
| 12:01.42 | enveezee | I thought if I used a WYSIWYG editor I could decide on the look and feel better |
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| 12:02.20 | enveezee | I just need to study my web devolpment languages and make something I guess |
| 12:02.33 | N0S3 | holas |
| 12:02.37 | azreal | deeLer: allthough, icewm will most likely sugest *dm, which probably will depend on something else. |
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| 12:02.40 | enveezee | in this age if I am nesting tables I need to learn new methods anyhow |
| 12:03.00 | stylish | anyone know how to add more tty consoles on debian. i tried /etc/inittab without any luck is there a special debian config file |
| 12:03.02 | stylish | in the init it configures the terminals does anyone know the config file it uses |
| 12:03.26 | dli | |dennis|, then, it's a serious problem :( |
| 12:03.28 | enveezee | stylish: /etc/inittab |
| 12:03.33 | surfdue | does anyone know how to fix this since #apache is dead? >> my website hosted on a new install of apache, redirects to the folder apache2-default/ ? why is this? |
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| 12:04.00 | dli | surfdue, upgrading from apache v1 to v2? |
| 12:04.02 | stylish | enveezee : the Xserver locks when i add with that file |
| 12:04.13 | N0S3 | do I have centericq, and in the file config they are the centericq in plane text, can I encrypt that file that solution gives me? |
| 12:04.14 | enveezee | stylish: add what? |
| 12:04.15 | surfdue | you can visit the page at http://svn.hpanel.org/ and yes there is index.html page and no it dosnt redirect |
| 12:04.25 | enveezee | stylish: are you trying to start a tty on the tty X is running? |
| 12:04.29 | stylish | enveezee : tty devices |
| 12:04.35 | surfdue | dli: no just downloaded apache2 via deb apt get |
| 12:04.39 | enveezee | stylish: I mean a console on the tty X is running |
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| 12:05.18 | N0S3 | i can encrypt this? |
| 12:05.18 | w3rdn4 | how do I remove my old nvidia kernel modules? |
| 12:05.23 | enveezee | stylish: I used to use a lot of them before I learned about screen |
| 12:05.37 | enveezee | stylish: I learned to skip tty7 some apps are badly programmed |
| 12:05.57 | enveezee | stylish: kdm had a bug in it a few years ago where even if ran on another tty would send its input to tty7 |
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| 12:06.37 | enveezee | screen is way way more effecient |
| 12:06.59 | enveezee | allocates ptys on the fly and allows them to be detached, multiattached..etc |
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| 12:07.23 | zu22 | is there a good firewall i can use for ppp dialup? and one that will automatically detect web, licq, ftp, network games and allow the traffic? |
| 12:07.26 | surfdue | im sorry |
| 12:07.33 | surfdue | dli, do you know what is wrong?> |
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| 12:08.16 | |dennis| | dLi> thanks..shall look into it... |
| 12:08.27 | liable | zu22: automatically detect? try guarddog/firestarter |
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| 12:10.08 | zu22 | liable: thanks |
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| 12:10.50 | dli | surfdue, I think nothing wrong, that's apache v2 |
| 12:11.12 | surfdue | that sucks? |
| 12:11.14 | surfdue | really. |
| 12:11.24 | surfdue | even a user i host on my control panel it redirects to apache2-default... |
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| 12:12.14 | sep | surfdue, why dont you just comment out the redirect in the sitefile then ? it's even commented heavily ? |
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| 12:13.29 | surfdue | /etc/apache2/sites-available/default: # in /apache2-default/, but still have / go to the right place |
| 12:13.29 | surfdue | /etc/apache2/sites-available/default: RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/ |
| 12:13.46 | surfdue | this is the answer, this found it find / | egrep -R apache2-default thanks :) |
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| 12:14.55 | faber2 | good morning everybody |
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| 12:15.15 | faber2 | if there a way to tell how many CPUs are installed on a system (without smp support) ? |
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| 12:16.20 | zu22 | doh got bounced |
| 12:17.20 | saloxin | faber2: try dmidecode |
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| 12:18.34 | GNU_ | i unknowingly installed nvidia ( non-free ) drivers. i want to install free nv drivers now.How can i? |
| 12:19.10 | possie | there was this topographical image, on which distrobution where most populare all of the world, can't find it, anyone know what i meaN? |
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| 12:19.20 | jm_ | you already have nv driver installed, it's part of XFree86/X.org |
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| 12:19.43 | sep | GNU_, the free drivers are there. just use nv instead of nvidia in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. |
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| 12:20.07 | snadge | what does "candycruncher: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference" this error mean? :) |
| 12:20.11 | GNU_ | sep, haaa there i remember it now |
| 12:20.20 | GNU_ | sep, thanx a lot |
| 12:22.07 | faber2 | saloxin: it says there is a second xeon cpu, but no information is available. the status says "populated, enabled", but the family says "Unknown". any ideas? |
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| 12:22.33 | surfdue | hello can anyone provide a good sources.list |
| 12:22.45 | streuner | surfdue: run 'apt-setup' as root |
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| 12:22.51 | surfdue | my current one freezes on: 66% [Connecting to security.debian.org (128.101.80.133)] |
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| 12:23.07 | saloxin | faber2: yup, try an smp enabled kernel. |
| 12:23.14 | brrrt | hello all |
| 12:23.20 | streuner | surfdue: just abort the process and try again |
| 12:23.34 | surfdue | dont use us right? |
| 12:23.43 | surfdue | what contry to you suggest? |
| 12:24.03 | w3rdn4 | ok my nvidia kernel modules is 0.7174.0 and it does not match up with the currently installed nvidia driver which is 1.xxx the drive I downloaded from the nvidia website after I tried to install the nvidia modules from apt-get. Any help here?? |
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| 12:24.18 | brrrt | i installed sarge, now there are many accounts with /bin/sh as shell like www-data, list, bin, nobody and so on... |
| 12:24.23 | streuner | surfdue: do what i told you |
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| 12:24.34 | surfdue | streuner, i did 5 times |
| 12:24.34 | brrrt | but i dont use a webserver or mailoinglist at all |
| 12:24.36 | surfdue | still froze |
| 12:24.36 | deeLer | now busy installing xserver : use kernel framebuffer device interface ?????????? |
| 12:24.43 | brrrt | is it safe to remove some of them? |
| 12:24.44 | faber2 | saloxin: thx! |
| 12:24.46 | streuner | surfdue: security.debian.org is a central server, it works here like a charm |
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| 12:27.38 | surfdue | cya guys |
| 12:28.02 | brrrt | do any daemons need a shell ? |
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| 12:28.51 | w3rdn4 | does anyone know how to match the Nvidia kernel module version to the Nvidia driver verison |
| 12:29.12 | phil- | brrrt, do you think people know about every daemon? |
| 12:29.12 | chealer | w3rdn4: yes. which versions do you have |
| 12:29.14 | azreal | brrrt: why wouldnt they, does not most shit require /bin/sh for something or other? |
| 12:29.30 | w3rdn4 | kernel module version 0.7174.0 |
| 12:29.31 | SerajewelKS | arg.. any reason why both of my debian boxes will not allow UDP sockets to bind? |
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| 12:29.41 | w3rdn4 | nvidia driver is 1.7xx |
| 12:29.42 | SerajewelKS | i've tried a C app and a Perl app on both boxen |
| 12:29.56 | SerajewelKS | the socket binds to the point where UDP datagrams can be sent, but not received |
| 12:30.22 | azreal | brrrt: considering the fact that alot of daemons are ran from crontabs, i would say yes. |
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| 12:30.59 | takatumi | !greetings |
| 12:30.59 | dpkg | hello, takatumi |
| 12:31.17 | chealer | w3rdn4: 0.7174.0? I don't think such a version of the nvidia graphics driver exists |
| 12:31.18 | w3rdn4 | driver version 1.0.7174.0 |
| 12:31.44 | Buz_ | hello, is it possible to configure sshd to allow logins only from a specific user? |
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| 12:31.48 | takatumi | w3rdn4: tried? /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 12:31.49 | azreal | dpkg: your an asshole, ive been gone a while, and i never got a greeting. |
| 12:31.49 | deeLer | okay, xserver works fine (startx) , but how do i make it appear after a reboot on CRTL-ALT-F7 ??????? |
| 12:31.55 | jm_ | buz: yes, man sshd_config |
| 12:31.59 | jm_ | Buz_ ^^^^^^^ |
| 12:32.03 | w3rdn4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.06 | chealer | w3rdn4: and there's no such version as 1.7xx neither |
| 12:32.23 | neonman | hola |
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| 12:33.12 | brrrt | azreal: mhm, ah i c, so i will try to remove the shell from users i am sure they dont need a shell |
| 12:33.36 | azreal | deeLer: uhh... install a *dm, or use startx after every reboot. |
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| 12:33.53 | deeLer | azreal; okay , now installing xdm |
| 12:33.54 | deeLer | :) |
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| 12:34.17 | w3rdn4 | chealer, what should I do if I install the .run file that nvidia gives you?? |
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| 12:34.50 | takatumi | w3rdn4: you shouldn't according to a few here. |
| 12:34.58 | chealer | w3rdn4: go request support somewhere else. nobody on this channel will help you if you don't install the drivers the debian way |
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| 12:35.18 | m4lu7 | nice. |
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| 12:35.25 | azreal | brrrt: users suck anyways, if your daemons are running with the correct privelages, it should not be an issue anyways. |
| 12:35.26 | w3rdn4 | then back to GNU_ 's question how do you remove the drives installed by the.run? |
| 12:35.56 | chealer | w3rdn4: the files? by uninstalling it, presumably |
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| 12:36.45 | brrrt | azreal: i am just wondering on my plain sarge-install i have www-data with a shell configured, but i didnt install an apache either... |
| 12:37.11 | brrrt | azreal: afaik apache doesnt need a shell too... |
| 12:38.05 | GNU_ | w3rdn4, why arent the default free nv dirvers work? |
| 12:38.41 | wang | gmornin |
| 12:38.44 | azreal | brrrt: if you look at /etc/passwd, you can see that www-data uses the shell, so delete www-data, if you do not want access to /bin/sh |
| 12:39.14 | w3rdn4 | how do I remove the package in dselect? |
| 12:39.19 | takatumi | GNU_: it probably does, it might fuck your system up as well. |
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| 12:39.57 | GNU_ | takatumi, i think i better not buy a box that has nvidia stuff on it ;) |
| 12:40.14 | GNU_ | takatumi, coz it is a serious shit to have one |
| 12:40.22 | takatumi | GNU_: they all suck. |
| 12:40.30 | The_Vulture | Mine works just dandy with the closed drivers *shrugs* |
| 12:40.56 | GNU_ | takatumi, why only nvidia and Ati has this problems, and why not others? |
| 12:41.24 | takatumi | GNU_: The_Vulture gave you the reason above. |
| 12:42.07 | azreal | GNU_: NV is better than ATI |
| 12:42.29 | azreal | GNU_: i gave up on ATI, NV works, that all i care about. |
| 12:42.34 | brrrt | azreal: now i changed all /bin/sh to /bin/false exept for: bin, sys, mail, fetchmail |
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| 12:42.46 | bob2 | someone should start a graphics chip company called ANTIV |
| 12:43.07 | GNU_ | azreal, can you start gdm with default nv drivers? |
| 12:43.15 | azreal | brrrt: should not have any prblems then to my knowledge. |
| 12:43.24 | takatumi | TANDIV? |
| 12:43.28 | wuming | how can I set /etc/resolv.conf to use specific dns, it changes each time computer restart, that nic is using dhcp |
| 12:43.33 | GNU_ | azreal, atleat i cant get gdm running on my Box |
| 12:43.33 | brrrt | azreal: nice, thx alot :D |
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| 12:44.02 | bob2 | wuming: configure your dhcp client to not overwrite it |
| 12:44.29 | azreal | GNU_: umm, i have not had any troubles with my config, of course i am useing the closed source NV driver, it just works. |
| 12:44.42 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, They work but I want GLX support |
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| 12:45.22 | wuming | bob2: ok, |
| 12:45.33 | GNU_ | w3rdn4, mine is a Nvidia GeForce 4 MX 440 video Card, my Deb Sarge 3.1 nv driver cant start X |
| 12:45.37 | GNU_ | :( |
| 12:46.23 | chealer | NVIDIA's 3D drivers aren't particularly stable |
| 12:46.23 | w3rdn4 | older card that I know works |
| 12:46.23 | GNU_ | chealer, i am talking about the 2D nv driver :) |
| 12:46.28 | bob2 | wuming: if you're using dhcp3-client, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 12:46.58 | azreal | GNU_: just get the drivers from nv, and run the installer, of course you will get pummled by fascist debianites, but it will most likely end up working. |
| 12:47.14 | wuming | bob2:i am using dhclient |
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| 12:47.50 | takatumi | wuming: man 5 dhclient.conf look at prepend. |
| 12:48.09 | w3rdn4 | bbl |
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| 12:49.07 | m0rbid | how do I see which drive letters certain drives were assign during boot? |
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| 12:49.18 | m0rbid | I know i have to grep dmsg somehow, but dont remmeber howto. |
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| 12:49.30 | w3rdn4 | wewt!!! my new nvidia drivers work!! |
| 12:49.33 | bob2 | m0rbid: dmesg | grep hd |
| 12:49.36 | bob2 | or whatever |
| 12:49.36 | Eclipser | m0rbid, linux does not have 'drive letters' |
| 12:49.38 | Anthro | m0rbid: dmesg|grep |
| 12:49.54 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, maybe I can help you out with what I learned |
| 12:50.10 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, do you still have that .run driver installed? |
| 12:50.45 | wuming | takatumi: use the prepend works, thanls |
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| 12:52.56 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, I would recommend uninstalling removing all the drivers through deselect |
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| 12:53.05 | w3rdn4 | then doing |
| 12:53.09 | w3rdn4 | !nvidia one liner |
| 12:53.09 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 12:53.55 | GNU_ | w3rdn4, just a sec,brb |
| 12:54.02 | w3rdn4 | ok |
| 12:54.41 | chealer | w3rdn4: dselect won't be able to clean nvidia-installer's job... |
| 12:54.50 | w3rdn4 | it did for me |
| 12:55.13 | chealer | you probably have some files remaining, but it may still work |
| 12:55.13 | Anthro | I have powerfully fucked up my system. I seem to have had major filesystem corruption. / wound up mounted read-only, so I did an fsck. Now dpkg is gone. It's a PPC system, so I can't just boot with Knoppix to fix things (also I'm on remotely). Any suggestions? |
| 12:55.34 | w3rdn4 | glxgears works |
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| 12:57.34 | takatumi | Anthro: you need a vacation. |
| 12:57.54 | Anthro | takatumi: Just took one this weekend. It may have been the cause :) |
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| 12:59.26 | gst | is there any apt-get mirror which still has the potato stuff available? |
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| 12:59.53 | stylish | gst : i eat potatos |
| 12:59.54 | bob2 | gst: archive.debian.org |
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| 13:00.48 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, brb gotta change a setting |
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| 13:00.54 | riemensc | hello i´ve got a problem with grub |
| 13:00.59 | Sirius_Black | hi guys - any idea what is happening with ftp://ftp.debian.org |
| 13:01.07 | riemensc | i´ve got restore my debian linux with partimage |
| 13:01.12 | Sirius_Black | when apt-get update, o get n |
| 13:01.13 | Sirius_Black | Ig |
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| 13:01.22 | bob2 | Sirius_Black: for security? |
| 13:01.22 | gst | bob2: tnx |
| 13:01.23 | riemensc | i starting my computer and grub write grub grub grub grub grub up to end of line |
| 13:01.30 | riemensc | what is the problem |
| 13:01.34 | Sirius_Black | bob2: i dont know |
| 13:01.43 | riemensc | í´ve restore with partimage the mbr |
| 13:01.52 | bob2 | Sirius_Black: people are looking at it |
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| 13:01.57 | Sirius_Black | bob2: i just wanted to install a few things |
| 13:02.01 | riemensc | and the hda1 |
| 13:02.02 | Sirius_Black | bob2: cheers |
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| 13:02.29 | bob2 | Sirius_Black: try http.us.debian.org in your sources.list instead |
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| 13:04.26 | Anthro | .debs are cpio archives, right? |
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| 13:04.34 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, back |
| 13:04.58 | GNU_ | w3rdn4, i dont have a .run file |
| 13:05.11 | GNU_ | i havent downloaded any from nvidia |
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| 13:05.26 | saloxin | Anthro: .ar /me thinks. dpkg -X |
| 13:05.31 | GNU_ | instead i have done, this apt-get nvidia-kernel-common and stuff |
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| 13:05.42 | bob2 | Anthro: ar archives |
| 13:05.48 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, just do the /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
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| 13:05.51 | bob2 | oh, too slow |
| 13:05.52 | Beik | Anthro, wrong, man deb |
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| 13:06.09 | Anthro | saloxin: I am trying to bootstrap this. I have a .deb for dpkg, but dpkg itself is gone due to filesystem corruption. I'm trying to install it manually. |
| 13:06.20 | stylish | anyone know of a colorfull debian init |
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| 13:06.48 | GNU_ | w3rdn4, my box has a working "nvidia" driver now.But i need "nv" driver to be running |
| 13:07.00 | bob2 | Anthro: there's a dpkg tarball on ftp.d.o for that very purpose |
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| 13:07.23 | Anthro | bob2: URL? For PPC? |
| 13:07.54 | mixter | hi! i just managed to overwrite a file in debian, could i get aptitude or dpkg to unpack just that file for me from the original package? |
| 13:08.21 | bob2 | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/project/dpkg/ |
| 13:08.27 | bob2 | mixter: no |
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| 13:08.36 | bob2 | mixter: but, dpkg-deb -x /var/cache/apt/archives/whatever.deb /tmp/ |
| 13:08.39 | Anthro | mixter: Possibly, but you're better off just doing apt-get install --reinstall. |
| 13:09.09 | mixter | Anthro: will, i've done some changes in other files that is owned by the package |
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| 13:09.17 | phil- | "Warning, /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source!" <-- how do i "configure" kernel souce? |
| 13:09.20 | mixter | bob2: : that sounds fine! |
| 13:09.26 | phil- | souce = source. |
| 13:09.27 | mixter | bob2: thanks! |
| 13:09.28 | bob2 | phil-: what are you trying to do? |
| 13:09.31 | bob2 | mixter: np |
| 13:09.33 | phil- | bob2, install nvidia drivers. |
| 13:09.42 | bob2 | phil-: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 13:09.50 | Anthro | bob2: What is nondebbin supposed to mean? |
| 13:09.54 | phil- | yeah - exactly what i'm following. |
| 13:10.09 | bob2 | hm? |
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| 13:10.18 | gigabytes | hi |
| 13:10.22 | bob2 | it should tell you to 'sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)' |
| 13:10.31 | takatumi | phil-: with m-a? |
| 13:10.35 | w3rdn4 | GNU_, Go into the xf86config file and change nvidia to nv |
| 13:10.36 | gigabytes | has kde 3.4 been transferred to testing? |
| 13:10.39 | mixter | bob2: worked just fine! thanks again! :-) |
| 13:10.40 | bob2 | Anthro: for non-debian systems, I assume |
| 13:10.43 | bob2 | mixter: np |
| 13:10.51 | phil- | takatumi, yeah. |
| 13:10.53 | newsbunny | hi all: any way to reattach a disowned process to the terminal without screen? |
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| 13:11.30 | bob2 | I've heard it's theoretically possible |
| 13:11.32 | takatumi | phil-: the headers should do. |
| 13:11.36 | bob2 | but I don't know of any software that does it |
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| 13:12.17 | GNU_ | w3rdn4, trying ;) |
| 13:12.21 | phil- | "Sorry, kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686 is already the newest version." |
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| 13:12.41 | w3rdn4 | I found out that my config file that I need to edit is xf86config-4 |
| 13:12.42 | chealer | !tell gigabytes about kde3.4 |
| 13:13.03 | bob2 | phil-: should be fine then |
| 13:13.18 | w3rdn4 | is there a way to watch the output of enemy territory when it starts up? |
| 13:13.21 | bob2 | phil-: /usr/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build will point at the headers, which is fine |
| 13:13.26 | w3rdn4 | it always boots up into a black screen |
| 13:13.59 | Anthro | bob2: I unpacked it, but dpkg won't do anything. It complains: dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success |
| 13:14.01 | takatumi | andrew |
| 13:14.02 | phil- | hrm. /usr/lib/modules/ doesnt exist. |
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| 13:14.22 | Anthro | bob2: I suspect that the version available is too old. |
| 13:14.28 | gigabytes | thanks chealer |
| 13:14.30 | bob2 | phil-: er, /lib/ |
| 13:14.42 | N0S3 | hello |
| 13:15.11 | gigabytes | but excuse me, why can't I upgrade kde 3.3 to 3.4 in etch without remove k3b and other packages? |
| 13:15.28 | bob2 | gigabytes: presumably the transition is not complete yet |
| 13:15.32 | gigabytes | have I to wait another bit before I can do a full upgrade? |
| 13:15.37 | phil- | bob2, yes, it points at /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 13:15.46 | bob2 | phil-: which has a .config file in it? |
| 13:15.54 | chealer | gigabytes: because k3b was removed from etch. the version you have is uninstallable in etch |
| 13:15.57 | phil- | bob2, yes |
| 13:16.41 | chealer | gigabytes: if by full upgrade you mean having extra KDE packages upgraded such as k3b, then yes |
| 13:16.43 | bob2 | phil-: how odd |
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| 13:16.58 | gigabytes | chealer, really? but has it been removed definitely, or only for the transition? |
| 13:17.09 | phil- | bob2, ooooo.. perhaps its because 'sux' doesnt give you real root? |
| 13:17.24 | chealer | gigabytes: only temporarily. ask #debian-kde for details about transition issues |
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| 13:17.29 | gigabytes | ok |
| 13:17.31 | gigabytes | thanks |
| 13:17.36 | bob2 | phil-: shouldn't matter |
| 13:17.52 | phil- | nope, no difference. |
| 13:18.22 | phil- | :\ |
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| 13:19.44 | nlight | hya |
| 13:19.46 | bobslaede | where does it say where to mount my external usb hdd? |
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| 13:20.49 | nkuttler | bobslaede: what do you mean? mkdir /mnt/foobar? |
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| 13:21.02 | bobslaede | and can i make a rule, so that only a specific drive is mounted where i want it too, and any other usb disc device is mounted as nomal |
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| 13:21.17 | jm_ | newsb;something like dtach? |
| 13:21.19 | nkuttler | bobslaede: man fstab? |
| 13:21.19 | jm_ | ahh gone |
| 13:21.20 | bobslaede | nkuttler: well, my usb harddrive is automaticly mounted at /media/usb* |
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| 13:21.42 | takatumi | jm_: hmm, that's the one I was trying to remember. :) |
| 13:21.44 | bobslaede | nkuttler: its not in fstab, well, it is now, i put it there, but when i plug it in, it mounts in /media/usb0 |
| 13:22.01 | bobslaede | and, this specific is to be mounted elsewhere |
| 13:22.10 | fatal_ | bobslaede: udev can which one of your usb sticks you're inserting.... although I can't tell you exactly how to configure udev to do it. :/ |
| 13:22.17 | yang | I am having problems setting up connection over dhcp. The only package I have is dhclient, it asks and gets the ip, but then I cant ping the gateway. |
| 13:22.39 | jm_ | bobslaede: sounds like you're using usbmount, read its docs maybe |
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| 13:22.43 | bobslaede | fatal_: allright. But i should be able to give a label right |
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| 13:22.51 | bobslaede | jm_: i will do that |
| 13:23.05 | bobslaede | jm_: nope, not usbmount |
| 13:23.10 | lazzer | How can i do a spindown on a SATA-harddrive in debian stable |
| 13:23.21 | jm_ | bobslaede: might be something more insane then, like GNOME :) |
| 13:23.27 | takatumi | bob2: 16:12:21 bob2 | but I don't know of any software that does it -> dtach, part from screen though. |
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| 13:23.48 | bobslaede | jm_: not gnome, no such thing on the system ;) |
| 13:23.56 | bobslaede | probly hotplug then? |
| 13:24.04 | jm_ | bobslaede: hotplug doesn't mount it by default |
| 13:24.17 | bobslaede | hmm... weird... |
| 13:24.24 | tarzeau | !seen kevix |
| 13:24.25 | dpkg | kevix <n=kevix@user-2ive6hl.dialup.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1h 42m 6s ago, saying: 'tarzeau, moi! that would make wouter happy!'. |
| 13:24.29 | jm_ | bobslaede: hotplug should call usb-storage script if it exists, or something similar, maybe investigate in that direction |
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| 13:24.35 | tarzeau | someone got a m68k mac and the screen is green? |
| 13:24.49 | bobslaede | aight |
| 13:24.57 | jm_ | that's how I mount my USB drives |
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| 13:25.12 | takatumi | jm_: new udev, no more hotplug. |
| 13:25.23 | jm_ | takatumi: it mounts devices now? |
| 13:25.52 | takatumi | jm_: coldplug afaik. |
| 13:26.50 | jm_ | bah I need to replace CPU scheduler in my 2.6, it really blows when some process is using a lot of CPU |
| 13:28.03 | fatal_ | lazzer: spindown of SATA drives requires "S.M.A.R.T" AFAIK, and that hasn't yet been merged in linux (or was just recently)... anyway... 2.6.8 which Sarge/stable has doesn't have SMART support. |
| 13:29.46 | yang | What can I use in dhclient.conf to get the correct query? http://www.bind9.net/dhclient.conf |
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| 13:32.31 | saloxin | yang: does the dhcp server provide a gw address? # cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases |
| 13:33.05 | fatal_ | jm_: you can choose cpu scheduler via the "elevator" boot parameter... the "as" scheduler is the default, try "cfq" (previous default). |
| 13:33.24 | yang | I cant check now...but it gives response from DHCP Query with IP 10.10.x.x and sets my IP |
| 13:33.28 | jm_ | fatal_: that's I/O scheduler |
| 13:33.34 | lazzer | fatal_: what can i do to get it working? |
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| 13:33.46 | fatal_ | jm_: ahh... right. |
| 13:33.47 | node3667 | is is security.debian.org down ? 128.101.80.133 |
| 13:33.49 | yang | saloxin: but then when i type arp it says (incomplete) doesnt show address |
| 13:33.55 | jm_ | fatal_: you can also change it on a per-device basis in /sys/block |
| 13:34.21 | saloxin | yang: weird |
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| 13:35.16 | yang | saloxin: i have set /etc/network/interfaces to auto eth0 dhcp |
| 13:35.24 | bobslaede | jm_: my usb ide drive, shows up as a scsi drive, but mounts as a usb stick in /media/usb0 is that nomal? |
| 13:35.28 | bobslaede | normal* |
| 13:35.32 | yang | saloxin: so when i restart it queries dhcp |
| 13:35.43 | jm_ | bobslaede: yes |
| 13:35.44 | saloxin | yang: dhclient.conf is commented out here - works |
| 13:35.48 | bobslaede | ok |
| 13:36.01 | fatal_ | lazzer: if you are a kernel hacker, you can try out the development libata tree.... see http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/jgarzik/libata-dev.git;a=summary ... but since you're asking you probably aren't and should just wait until the feature becomes stable before trying to use it. |
| 13:36.03 | streuner | node3667: try it again, it work like a charm here |
| 13:36.05 | yang | saloxin: oh, you have an empty dhclient.conf ? |
| 13:36.17 | saloxin | yang: yup - all lines are preceeded with a # |
| 13:36.25 | yang | saloxin: i may try that |
| 13:36.43 | bobslaede | jm_: i believe it is usbmount that does, thanks |
| 13:36.47 | saloxin | yang: i mean, you don't have interfaces called ep0 etc |
| 13:36.51 | node3667 | streuner: did you try security.debian.org or 128.101.80.133 ? |
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| 13:36.55 | charolastra | hi people |
| 13:36.58 | jm_ | bobslaede: right ;) |
| 13:37.21 | streuner | node3667: ping -c1 128.101.80.133 and apt-get update (security.debian.org) |
| 13:37.31 | lazzer | fatal_: i will test and recompile a custom kernel then... 2.6 should have some support for this? |
| 13:37.46 | yang | saloxin: no, i have eth0 |
| 13:38.02 | yang | saloxin: that is a config from dhcp pages |
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| 13:39.05 | node3667 | streuner: telnet 128.101.80.133 80 is not working.. |
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| 13:39.17 | fsancho | hi all |
| 13:39.27 | jm_ | node3667: security.debian.org is not a single machine anymore |
| 13:39.36 | nlight | hy fsancho |
| 13:39.44 | node3667 | jm_: indeed |
| 13:39.48 | yang | saloxin: i can ping 127.0.0.1 and 123.123.123.123 my IP |
| 13:39.54 | yang | saloxin: but not the gateway |
| 13:40.01 | node3667 | jm_: and what i beleave is that 128.101.80.133 is down |
| 13:40.12 | node3667 | at least the apache part |
| 13:40.19 | fsancho | but xterm doesn't print them. |
| 13:40.19 | fsancho | i have a problem with xterm. I need to read a code from a barcode reader. That code is between ^ symbols |
| 13:40.19 | jm_ | node3667: ahh I see, well just use another one if it works |
| 13:40.29 | streuner | zerberus:/home/streuner# ping -c1 128.101.80.133 |
| 13:40.41 | streuner | 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss |
| 13:40.43 | jm_ | ftp is down too |
| 13:40.51 | node3667 | streuner: it pings, but http/ftp is down |
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| 13:41.08 | node3667 | jm_: my dns server is keeping giving me the same record again :-/ |
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| 13:41.18 | w3rdn4 | how do you generate a log file of the program et once I enter it into console? |
| 13:41.18 | fsancho | if i dump the cardcode in a text mode console, i can see the code between ^ symbols |
| 13:41.20 | charolastra | gcc-4.0 got installed through apt-get on my system and now it seems to be the deffault now; how can i tell it to use gcc-3.3 again? |
| 13:41.33 | jm_ | node3667: it returns all three addresses to me each time, in RR fashion |
| 13:41.44 | jm_ | charolastra: tell who? |
| 13:41.53 | jm_ | w3rdn4: man script |
| 13:42.00 | fsancho | but the same carcode in a xterm lost the ^ symbols, and the letters next to them |
| 13:42.03 | charolastra | jm_: excuse me? |
| 13:42.04 | yang | saloxin: i dont need dhcpd server running for my dhclient to obtain the IP address do I ? |
| 13:42.06 | node3667 | jm_: sure, with dig, yes, but i don't control the ip which is returned to apt-get |
| 13:42.14 | jm_ | node3667: how can i tell it - what's it? |
| 13:42.29 | charolastra | jm_: debian of course |
| 13:42.42 | jm_ | node3667: it should still get another one on next attempt |
| 13:43.02 | jm_ | charolastra: the easiest is by just using gcc-3.3 command instead of just gcc |
| 13:43.14 | charolastra | ic |
| 13:43.17 | fsancho | anybody knows how put a xterm in some kind of raw mode that i can type ^ followed by any letter and i can obtain a ^S not a beep |
| 13:43.21 | fsancho | ? |
| 13:44.01 | saloxin | yang: right, do not run dhcpd locally if you answer from another one |
| 13:44.01 | jm_ | fsancho: I don't understand your request |
| 13:44.16 | nlight | fsancho, put it in "" ? |
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| 13:44.27 | saloxin | yang: sounds like your dhcp server is giving your wrong answers, do you have login to it? |
| 13:45.12 | yang | saloxin: my address is static when delivered with dhcp...so i could set it also to "static" in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 13:45.19 | w3rdn4 | ------- sound initialization ------- |
| 13:45.20 | w3rdn4 | DOUBLE SIGNAL FAULT: Received signal 15, exiting... |
| 13:45.27 | yang | saloxin: no i adont have the login to ISP dhcpd |
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| 13:45.50 | fsancho | jm_: sorry about my broken english. I wan to put a xterm in some kind of raw mode that permits to type ^ character followed by any letter, S for example, and get printed ^S instead a beep from the speaker |
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| 13:46.11 | jm_ | fsancho: but what's the point of doing that? |
| 13:46.16 | fsancho | actually it only works in a text console, but my app needs X to work |
| 13:46.19 | node3667 | jm_: i guess so. still too bad to have one in 3 down. still, it's better that the old way :-) |
| 13:46.25 | saloxin | yang: if you know the info the dhcp server is supposed to give you there's nothing wrong with setting it up staticly |
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| 13:46.32 | black_ | hello |
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| 13:46.44 | black_ | i am having a problem with my nvidia geforce 4 |
| 13:46.46 | Wropeller | hi |
| 13:46.52 | fsancho | jm_: i have an app that reads a magnetic card code, and the code that i have to parse is between ^ characters |
| 13:46.52 | black_ | I can't start the x |
| 13:46.53 | nlight | black_, hello |
| 13:46.54 | Wropeller | nice chann!!!!!! |
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| 13:47.04 | black_ | I am running a debian sarge |
| 13:47.19 | black_ | somebody can help me? |
| 13:47.25 | xelam | a Sargeant Debian |
| 13:47.57 | fsancho | jm_: in order that xterm doesn't print ^[\alpha]+ sequences, i can't parse the code |
| 13:48.41 | yang | saloxin: i will ask at my ISP |
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| 13:49.28 | neiljp | last weekend I installed woody then upgraded to sarge (eventually) on an old sparc, mostly the upgrade went ok but for some reason it did not set up /etc/hosts, and some packages will not upgrade or configure properly because of that - is there a package which should be responsible? |
| 13:49.37 | fsancho | jm_: argh, again my broken english. because xterm doesn't print ^\alpha sequences, i can't parse the code |
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| 13:49.40 | stylish | can i have your soul |
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| 13:50.10 | saloxin | yang: address, broadcast, netmask, gateway |
| 13:50.43 | saloxin | yang: dhcp should just work with a fresh debian install thtough |
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| 13:51.27 | yang | saloxin: i asked and the ISP dude told me, if i set the IP statically it will drop out after 12h |
| 13:51.49 | jm_ | fsancho: why the hell do you rely on xterm for this? |
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| 13:52.32 | saloxin | yang: blergh. but still, if you set it staticly now you know that networking works, and isolate the problem |
| 13:52.45 | jm_ | neiljp: you should have /etc/hosts with Woody already |
| 13:52.53 | black_ | somebody can help me to configure my geforce 4? |
| 13:53.17 | neiljp | jm_: yes, I know! |
| 13:53.22 | guiss | hi, i have set up a debian iptables firewall at home and the console ttys are flooded by kernel messages of iptables, syslog and klog are started and running, how can i avoid this? |
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| 13:53.26 | neiljp | jm_: but where would it come from? |
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| 13:53.56 | jm_ | neiljp: probably created when it asks for networking, maybe localhost entries are part of base.tgz, not sure |
| 13:54.12 | neiljp | veeeery weird |
| 13:54.23 | yang | saloxin: you know that "help windows support" they know shit |
| 13:54.43 | saloxin | yang: true. set it staticly and see if isp's claim holds :-) |
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| 13:55.14 | stylish | debian needs a colorfull init system |
| 13:55.24 | node3667 | noooo |
| 13:55.35 | node3667 | it needs to be clean |
| 13:55.35 | saloxin | noooo |
| 13:55.45 | node3667 | it's clean already |
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| 13:55.55 | node3667 | no need for crappy initscritps |
| 13:55.58 | takatumi | stylish: there used to be debblue. |
| 13:55.59 | saloxin | kiss |
| 13:56.07 | gigabytes | it should be like the gentoo one to me |
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| 13:56.27 | yang | saloxin: thanks for helping |
| 13:56.39 | stylish | they need color for apt-get too |
| 13:56.46 | fireba11 | how about a color option for init ? :-) |
| 13:56.52 | jm_ | feel free to use generic colourizer apps |
| 13:57.02 | Holborn | :) |
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| 13:58.03 | takatumi | stylish: aptitude |
| 13:58.31 | saloxin | yang: :-) |
| 13:59.03 | Nurbs | mhm, aren't there plans to replace the standard debian init system by a dependency based one anyway? |
| 13:59.23 | resiak | !init-ng |
| 13:59.27 | resiak | :( |
| 13:59.33 | sebi__ | hi |
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| 14:00.00 | stylish | anyone here use a 1024x768 vesa console |
| 14:00.09 | gigabytes | stylish, me |
| 14:00.13 | stylish | same |
| 14:00.28 | tarzeau | stylish: any smart people don't use vesa |
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| 14:00.45 | takatumi | tarzeau: only vesa works here. |
| 14:00.45 | tarzeau | !vesa |
| 14:00.46 | dpkg | VESA, arguable at least, stands for "video electronics standards association" and is a mode that can be used on vid cards for the framebuffer xserver and other neat stuff. |
| 14:00.49 | black_ | somebody can help me to configure my geforce 4? |
| 14:00.52 | stylish | gigabytes : i have 10 ttys with X on tty11 and syslog on tty12 |
| 14:01.03 | tarzeau | takatumi: where? what graphics card is that? i haven't seen a vga card that can't do textmode |
| 14:01.04 | jm_ | BlackJudas: /msg dpkg nvidia oneliner |
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| 14:01.09 | jm_ | black_ ^^^^^^^ |
| 14:01.15 | takatumi | tarzeau: ati radeon340 |
| 14:01.26 | jm_ | black_: actually /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 14:01.50 | Nurbs | tarzeau: how many do a 1600x1200 text mode? |
| 14:02.10 | takatumi | tarzeau: blank screen without fb. |
| 14:02.15 | Nurbs | if you're using the console at all anyway :) |
| 14:02.30 | tarzeau | Nurbs: have you tried SVGATextMode yet? |
| 14:02.44 | node3667 | tarzeau: is the bot dpkg down ? |
| 14:02.47 | tarzeau | takatumi: ok that video card must suck if it can't do textmode |
| 14:02.51 | jm_ | lots of video cards have limited bandwith available for text mode so you end up with low refresh rates in high resolution modes |
| 14:02.52 | tarzeau | dpkg ping |
| 14:02.52 | dpkg | pong |
| 14:02.59 | tarzeau | node3667: it looks pretty alive and fresh |
| 14:03.16 | Nurbs | tarzeau: no |
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| 14:03.34 | tarzeau | jm_: i've never seen fb be faster than textmode |
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| 14:03.51 | umbop | hey guys, does anyone know of a driver for ODBC to MS-SQL |
| 14:03.53 | jm_ | tarzeau: well it should be almost as fast if acceleration is used |
| 14:03.56 | takatumi | tarzeau: either way I can watch movies with fb, so can't complain. |
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| 14:03.59 | umbop | preferably free |
| 14:04.09 | tarzeau | jm_: linux fb modes use acceleration, ever? |
| 14:04.26 | tarzeau | takatumi: yeah that's a different thing. i can watch tv in fb too |
| 14:04.37 | jm_ | tarzeau: no idea, VESA definitely doesn't |
| 14:04.51 | tarzeau | takatumi: tried kfreebsd yet? |
| 14:05.06 | takatumi | tarzeau: not yet, should I? |
| 14:05.10 | sebi__ | anyone knows about dualhead x servers? my problem is, that the mouse is stuck in in one of the two screens and not moving into the other one. i use woody (skoolelinux) |
| 14:05.18 | tarzeau | takatumi: yes definitely. it's fantastic |
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| 14:05.35 | tarzeau | sebi__: does it move to the other over the other border? |
| 14:05.39 | node3667 | tarzeau: thx |
| 14:05.40 | lazzer | is there any good comandlineftpclient that supports ssl? |
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| 14:05.48 | node3667 | msg dpkg apt secure |
| 14:05.50 | tarzeau | lazzer: lftp? |
| 14:05.52 | node3667 | oups. sorry. |
| 14:05.58 | takatumi | tarzeau: wireless and graphics cards would work without pain? |
| 14:06.14 | tarzeau | takatumi: wireless not yet, but graphics cards are fine. you've got xorg |
| 14:06.23 | tarzeau | takatumi: wireless is being worked on. #gnu-kbsd |
| 14:06.39 | takatumi | tarzeau: cool. |
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| 14:06.49 | omry|work | can anyone please do "tcptraceroute firefang.net 80" and send me the output on private? thanks. |
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| 14:07.04 | takatumi | tarzeau: acpi or equivalent? |
| 14:07.32 | tarzeau | takatumi: no idea |
| 14:07.48 | tarzeau | takatumi: whatever freebsd 5.4 has. there's even 6 kernels available i think |
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| 14:08.31 | toad_ | why does famd listen on all interfaces by default? isn't this a security risk? |
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| 14:08.35 | tarzeau | omry|work: http://gnu.ethz.ch/tcptrace.txt |
| 14:08.37 | toad_ | (using sarge) |
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| 14:08.50 | tarzeau | toad_: no it's probably not. becuase you didn't tell it to do otherwise? |
| 14:09.23 | omry|work | tarzeau, thanks. |
| 14:09.35 | toad_ | tarzeau: some package needed it... i don't see why remote access would be necessary _by default_ |
| 14:09.44 | steigweis | can you recommend a wlan pcmcia card with prism2 chipset and 54mbit, please? |
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| 14:10.18 | hackeron_ | can you recommend a benchmarking tool that benchmarks the random access time? |
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| 14:10.22 | gypsymauro | hello |
| 14:10.27 | toad_ | gnome-desktop-environment depends on fam or gamin |
| 14:10.38 | tarzeau | hackeron_: to what? memory? disk? |
| 14:10.49 | hackeron_ | tarzeau: oh sorry, disk |
| 14:10.56 | toad_ | obscure, insecure features shouldn't be on by default... |
| 14:10.59 | shad0wcat | bah |
| 14:10.59 | tarzeau | hackeron_: scsi or ide? |
| 14:11.09 | tarzeau | hackeron_: i think hdparm has some stuff for ide |
| 14:11.11 | shad0wcat | what factoid describes how to configure X |
| 14:11.11 | toad_ | should i file a bug against fam? |
| 14:11.11 | gypsymauro | I'm usin apt-proxy to download my packages..now I've an archive in debian format..there is a way to burn a cd with that packages in a way that I can do apt-cdrom add? |
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| 14:11.19 | hackeron_ | tarzeau: sata, but why does it matter? |
| 14:11.20 | ciphergoth | I have a spare hard drive installed in a running Debian system. I'd like to install Debian on that hard drive so the system can boot from it. Is there a way of doing it using the running Debian system? Using a boot CD would be inconvenient - no keyboard |
| 14:11.25 | tarzeau | toad_: against gnome or that particular package probably |
| 14:11.33 | shad0wcat | ciphergoth: chroot |
| 14:11.36 | hackeron_ | tarzeau: I want to benchmark the random access time, i.e. access random data on a file system |
| 14:11.37 | shad0wcat | aka the manual way |
| 14:11.41 | tarzeau | hackeron_: because some tool only work on ide devices, and others only on scsi devs |
| 14:11.43 | hackeron_ | tarzeau: not print the specs |
| 14:11.43 | jm_ | ciphergoth: yes, read installation manualk |
| 14:11.47 | takatumi | shad0wcat: /msg dpkg set up x |
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| 14:11.49 | toad_ | tarzeau: well, it seems reasonable for gnome to use fam |
| 14:11.55 | tarzeau | hackeron_: yes, you want to read the fucking manual of hdparm also |
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| 14:11.59 | jah | hi |
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| 14:12.13 | toad_ | tarzeau: what isn't reasonable is fam by default allowing remote hosts to monitor files... even if it *is* authenticated |
| 14:12.15 | hackeron_ | tarzeau: I did, its incompatible with sata and doesnt benchmark random access time |
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| 14:12.36 | tarzeau | hackeron_: then use apt-cache search |
| 14:12.53 | hackeron_ | tarzeau: E: You must give exactly one pattern |
| 14:13.04 | tarzeau | hackeron_: what did you type? |
| 14:13.05 | EmleyMoor | I have horde2 installed on my testing box, but it's gone wrong recently - error messages are displaying instead of the pages. (can send them to someone on request) |
| 14:13.14 | hackeron_ | tarzeau: what you said to type |
| 14:13.17 | EmleyMoor | Is this a known issue in testing and is there a way to fix it? |
| 14:13.17 | bakr | Hello, is it possible to acces a FAT32 disk in debian? I just put a 'new' harddisk in my computer.. |
| 14:13.21 | tarzeau | toad_: no idea i use gdomap, not fma |
| 14:13.28 | jm_ | bakr: of course it is |
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| 14:13.43 | bakr | jm_: And how do we do that? :) |
| 14:13.45 | toad_ | tarzeau: what's gdomap? there is no such package... |
| 14:13.46 | tarzeau | hackeron_: try apt-cache search disk benchmark |
| 14:13.47 | jm_ | bakr: mount it |
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| 14:13.53 | tarzeau | toad_: it's part of gnustep |
| 14:13.55 | toad_ | and there is no such package as gamin either |
| 14:13.56 | nbb | hello I try to remove postfix on a debian sarge system with "apt-get remove postfix" but apt wants to remove also the mysql-server. Why and how can I remove postfix only? |
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| 14:14.05 | toad_ | tarzeau: ok, so you don't use gnome |
| 14:14.12 | tarzeau | toad_: some people don't like gnome. |
| 14:14.13 | shad0wcat | takatumi: thanks |
| 14:14.14 | jm_ | nbb: you can't, you need MTA for some base packages |
| 14:14.17 | ciphergoth | aha: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en |
| 14:14.18 | bakr | jm_: How? :) very very new to linux and new disks :) |
| 14:14.19 | tarzeau | toad_: no way i will ever use gnome |
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| 14:14.47 | EmleyMoor | bakr: Why do you particularly want it FAT32? |
| 14:14.49 | bonz_ | tarzeau: shure :P |
| 14:14.54 | chris_ | Hi there! How can I install mozilla-xft? apt-get install mozilla-xft tells me there's no installation candidate. |
| 14:14.58 | tarzeau | bonz_: very damn shure. just like kde |
| 14:14.59 | jm_ | bakr: mount <devicename> <mount_point> - try some newbie guides, i.e. dos to linxu howto and so on |
| 14:15.06 | sebi__ | tarzeau: no, the mouse pointer just stays on one screen |
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| 14:15.20 | nksen | hm. why is there a need for debootstrap? isn't there a ready-to-go tarball with all the sufficient files? problem is, that I cannot install debootstrap on my rescue system |
| 14:15.23 | bakr | Emleymoor: The new drive comes win98... cause i wanna play some games. |
| 14:15.23 | tarzeau | sebi__: then something is wrong. you said it's not debian, right? |
| 14:15.24 | bonz_ | tarzeau: hehe resistance is futile |
| 14:15.36 | tarzeau | bonz_: crap. gnome is utter , oh well don't get me started |
| 14:15.44 | sebi__ | it's debian, woody, but skoolelinux distro |
| 14:15.52 | tarzeau | sebi__: so it's not debian |
| 14:15.58 | tarzeau | sebi__: and it's old |
| 14:15.58 | sebi__ | debian-edu |
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| 14:16.20 | bonz_ | tarzeau: I agree with you, Iavoid it if possible |
| 14:16.38 | tarzeau | sebi__: then try their channel, i don't remember the name of it though |
| 14:16.44 | nbb | jm_: but it is possible to use another MTA without removing postfix? e.g. exim |
| 14:16.46 | sebi__ | they sent me here |
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| 14:16.52 | tarzeau | !they don't know |
| 14:16.52 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 14:16.53 | sebi__ | tarzeau: they sent me here |
| 14:16.54 | tarzeau | sebi__: read that |
| 14:17.05 | tarzeau | !repeat sebi__ |
| 14:17.06 | bonz_ | remindsme toomuch of that commercial software thats suppossed too be "User Friendly" |
| 14:17.13 | KurtKraut | I'm trying to install NVIDIA driver and I found in apt-get.org a huge list of repositories with different versions of NVIDIA driver. I don't know which one I should pick up. How can I choose one ? What is the best option ? |
| 14:17.17 | toad_ | hmmm odd |
| 14:17.17 | sebi__ | yea.. ic |
| 14:17.26 | toad_ | the config file does have local_only = true in ... now |
| 14:17.29 | toad_ | but it didn't |
| 14:17.35 | toad_ | i reinstalled it, and now it did |
| 14:17.39 | bibe_ | hi all. I need to add "-dpi 75" switch to the X server (xfree86) command line. Where is the most appropriate file to add it? |
| 14:17.40 | toad_ | maybe a very recently fixed bug? |
| 14:17.48 | coywolf | I wonder if I can open a bussiness to recover data for people. I'm familar with FAT, ext2. I lost my MBR, still I recovered my partitions. I wrote a program to scan the disk. I believe that we shouldn't lose the whole disk, while only some sectors lost . With some hints, i can recover the whole data. Is this service badly needed? |
| 14:17.49 | toad_ | i updated a week or two ago... |
| 14:17.51 | toad_ | strange |
| 14:17.52 | chris_ | Can anybody tell me how tp install mozilla-xft? apt-get install mozilla-xft tells me there's no installation candidate. Isn't there a mozilla-xft on Sarge? |
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| 14:18.00 | sebi__ | tarzeau: thanks |
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| 14:18.27 | tarzeau | coywolf: i've run mkfs.ext2 on a ext2 partition. you can recover stuff? |
| 14:18.32 | takatumi | coywolf: some of the data recovery co.s charge in the $1000s I hear. |
| 14:18.35 | tarzeau | coywolf: can i try your software? |
| 14:18.38 | jm_ | nbb: sure, install exim instead of postfix |
| 14:18.45 | tarzeau | takatumi: damn you. and i was looking for cheap recovery |
| 14:18.49 | chris_ | :-( |
| 14:19.07 | coywolf | tarzeau, well, pretty hard |
| 14:19.16 | jm_ | chriswk: you don't need mozilla-xft any more |
| 14:19.17 | charolastra | where is the definition for make which gcc gets used? |
| 14:19.20 | jm_ | chris_ ^^^^ |
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| 14:19.31 | jm_ | charolastra: tried make CC=gcc-3.3? |
| 14:19.47 | chris_ | jm_: Really? Why? |
| 14:19.52 | coywolf | takatumi, i recover manually |
| 14:19.54 | node3667 | tarzeau: try reiserfs next time. i did a mkreiserfs on /, then reiserfsck , it's all there ! |
| 14:20.04 | coywolf | tarzeau, i recover manually |
| 14:20.04 | jm_ | chris_: because the main package provides the functionality? |
| 14:20.05 | node3667 | tarzeau: strings /dev/hda1 |
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| 14:20.06 | charolastra | jm_: the thing is that make gets called out of a makefile |
| 14:20.12 | nbb | jm_: thanks; how come that there's no postfix process in pstree but smtp port is open? |
| 14:20.15 | tarzeau | node3667: well it's too late now. i've got ufs2 for the moment |
| 14:20.25 | jm_ | charolastra: it will pass top level variables to sub-make-s if it's anywhere near sane |
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| 14:20.29 | tarzeau | node3667: i recovered my private gpg key using lde |
| 14:20.33 | jm_ | nbb: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 14:20.35 | tarzeau | coywolf: 20 gb? |
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| 14:21.29 | coywolf | tarzeau, with some hints of the old system, and my own tools |
| 14:21.43 | coywolf | tarzeau, I do it half manully |
| 14:21.46 | chris_ | jm_: But why is there a virtual package "mozilla-xft"? aptitude also tells me that "mozilla-browser" collides with "mozilla-xft". |
| 14:22.00 | charolastra | jm_: thanks |
| 14:22.08 | tarzeau | coywolf: your tools are not free? |
| 14:22.09 | jm_ | chris_: because once such package existed, i.e. for upgraded purposes |
| 14:22.16 | ciphergoth | If dmesg is full of messages like "hdc: task_in_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }", does that mean the disk is bad, or the controller, or...? |
| 14:22.27 | tarzeau | ciphergoth: more likely the disk |
| 14:22.33 | chris_ | jm_: ok, jm_! Thank you for your response! :-) |
| 14:22.33 | jm_ | ciphergoth: what's the status= code? |
| 14:22.38 | jm_ | chris_: no worries |
| 14:22.42 | tarzeau | ciphergoth: what's the manufacturer of the disk? |
| 14:22.47 | ciphergoth | status=0x59 |
| 14:22.51 | ciphergoth | IBM DesksTar |
| 14:23.01 | ciphergoth | "Buffer I/O error on device" |
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| 14:23.03 | coywolf | tarzeau, it's simple, just scan the disk and search some pattern |
| 14:23.09 | tarzeau | ciphergoth: bad luck for you |
| 14:23.25 | ciphergoth | tarzeau: not all that bad fortunately |
| 14:23.32 | tarzeau | coywolf: not automatically detect known patterns and extract those to another directorye/disk? |
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| 14:23.50 | tarzeau | coywolf: what about files > inodesize cluttered over the whole disk? |
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| 14:24.18 | jm_ | 59? |
| 14:24.18 | bakr | jm_: What should be the 'mount point' for my new disk? ( in /etc/fstab |
| 14:24.19 | ciphergoth | it's a work machine, not a personal one, it's got one disk that works, it's not my main machine, and I'm sure work can rustle me up an extra disk |
| 14:24.24 | EmleyMoor | Since a recent php upgrade, my horde2 framework has stopped working on etch - is there an easy fix? |
| 14:24.34 | jm_ | bakr: whatever you want - it can be say /myporn |
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| 14:24.59 | bakr | jm_: :) but should i create a folder of that then? |
| 14:25.25 | bonz_ | folder ey? |
| 14:25.41 | nbb | jm_: how do you mean that? /msg dpkg open ports? I mean pstree does not show any mta like processes but nmap localhost shows smtp port being open |
| 14:25.57 | bakr | jm_: mount point '/hd2 |
| 14:26.02 | bakr | ' does not exist |
| 14:26.26 | jm_ | bakr: directory, not folder - and yes |
| 14:26.44 | ciphergoth | nbb: lsof can tell you what process has the port open |
| 14:26.50 | jm_ | nbb: type that in your IRC client and the command dpkg will mention will tell you which process is listening on the port |
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| 14:27.31 | ciphergoth | ah, dpkg knows better than I! |
| 14:27.36 | bakr | jm_: unknown filesystem type 'fat32' :S |
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| 14:28.29 | guiss | hi, i have set up a debian iptables firewall at home and the console ttys are flooded by kernel messages of iptables, syslog and klog are started and running, how can i avoid this? |
| 14:29.04 | jm_ | bakr: no, fs type is vfat |
| 14:29.14 | jm_ | guiss: /msg dpkg printk console |
| 14:29.45 | bakr | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, |
| 14:29.45 | bakr | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.46 | bakr | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.46 | bakr | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.46 | bakr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:30.47 | chris_ | nbb: here's a nice script showing you all open ports on your machine: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/host_security/securing-debian-howto/apA.en.html |
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| 14:31.26 | chris_ | nbb: ... and which package provides the service. |
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| 14:34.33 | sandman | I cannot spawn any applications out of a chroot |
| 14:34.35 | spdf | Hmm.. Someone have a quick suggestion for a telnet like client for dialing up remote systems? |
| 14:34.46 | sandman | I run dchroot -d and everything, and mount -o bind home directories |
| 14:34.49 | sandman | still doesn't work |
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| 14:35.02 | jm_ | spdf: ehh? |
| 14:35.15 | abrotman | minicom |
| 14:35.16 | abrotman | ? |
| 14:35.18 | abrotman | kermit ? |
| 14:35.46 | spdf | Its been so long since I've dialed into a system, I couldn't remember a single peice of software to do it.. |
| 14:36.09 | valdyn_ | sandman: what doesnt work? |
| 14:36.29 | spdf | Minicom'll get the job done, thanks abrotman.. |
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| 14:37.54 | EmleyMoor | Is security playing up again |
| 14:38.41 | macsim | hi, am I the only one who have problems with udev and debian sid ? |
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| 14:40.07 | kampasky | Hello, is it possible to protect certain directory _including its contents_ from tmpreaper? |
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| 14:40.28 | kampasky | Googling it came up with nothing, and just protecting that directory will protect it alone, but tmpreaper will still happily annihilate its contents. |
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| 14:42.11 | takatumi | macsim: checked bts? |
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| 14:43.12 | sandman | valdyn_: dchroot -d -c etch civclient, for example |
| 14:43.35 | jm_ | kampasky: description says you can protect files using given shell pattern |
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| 14:43.55 | valdyn_ | sandman: and the error message is ? |
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| 14:44.05 | macsim | takatumi: I can't find the url |
| 14:44.22 | sandman | valdyn_: I'll get it for you |
| 14:44.32 | kampasky | jm_: yes, but I need to protect an entire tree inside of the directory |
| 14:44.44 | rikclark | How do I launch a command from the command line so tat when it completes it launches itself again please? |
| 14:44.45 | takatumi | macsim: install reportbug; querybts udev |
| 14:44.46 | kampasky | jm_: how would I match that with a shell pattern? |
| 14:44.47 | jm_ | kampasky: doesn't the same pattern work for directories? |
| 14:45.03 | macsim | takatumi: ok thx |
| 14:45.08 | kampasky | jm_: what pattern do you mean? |
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| 14:45.23 | licued | Hey, if you guys where to have a website , and you wanted to intergrate a chat function into it, how would you go about doing so? Would you use IRC and setup RatBox and then just make a little modulae like script/program that accessed it, or is there a better method; in other words; how do most proessfinal companies do it like earthlink, progressive insurance, ect.. |
| 14:45.23 | jm_ | kampasky: You can specify a set of files to protect from deletion with a shell pattern. |
| 14:45.32 | kampasky | jm_: you already said that |
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| 14:45.47 | jm_ | kampasky: yes, but you asked me which patter I meant - so here you go |
| 14:45.56 | jm_ | I mean no need to tell me I said it already |
| 14:46.02 | kampasky | yes, but what pattern in particular? |
| 14:46.16 | jm_ | *that* pattern, used to defined exclusions |
| 14:46.18 | kampasky | if I do a/*, that'll protect files a/b, a/c, etc., but not e.g. a/d/e |
| 14:46.31 | kampasky | jm_: can you spell it out for me, please? |
| 14:46.32 | jm_ | I was hoping a will do - doesn't it work? |
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| 14:46.52 | kampasky | jm_: as I already said, just protecting that directory will protect it alone, but tmpreaper will still happily annihilate its contents. |
| 14:47.03 | kampasky | so I'll end up with empty 'a' directory |
| 14:47.18 | jm_ | kampasky: ok I misunderstood that - maybe you should enhance it |
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| 14:47.25 | kampasky | I'm considering that |
| 14:47.34 | kampasky | currently my problem is that packages.debian.org seems to be down :) |
| 14:47.38 | jm_ | yeah ;( |
| 14:47.49 | quittt | how do I make XMMS ignore false mpeg layers? |
| 14:49.43 | sandman | _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6000: Name or service not known |
| 14:49.47 | sandman | That's the error |
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| 14:50.48 | quittt | sandman, hey |
| 14:50.52 | sandman | quittt: hi |
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| 14:51.30 | valdyn_ | sandman: mount --bind /tmp/ /mnt/chroot/ |
| 14:51.34 | valdyn_ | sandman: mount --bind /tmp/ /mnt/chroot/tmp |
| 14:52.28 | sandman | valdyn_: mount --bind is the same as mount -o bind, yes? |
| 14:52.38 | valdyn_ | sandman: probably |
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| 14:53.10 | valdyn_ | sandman: Xs unix sockets are on /tmp/ anyway, you need those |
| 14:53.32 | sandman | Okay. So basically I need to bind tmp _and_ home directories |
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| 14:53.48 | valdyn_ | sandman: thats one way yea |
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| 14:53.54 | yomguy | Hi ! I've a problem with sftp, ftp, etc on Konqueror 3.4.2-4 (unstable)... 'ps aux' says the connexion is ok, but no files or folders in the window... Does anybody have the same pb ? Thx ! |
| 14:54.09 | valdyn_ | sandman: unix sockets wouldnt be required if you permitted tcp connections to your X server, but i wouldnt do that |
| 14:54.17 | sandman | how to carry over EVs into a chroot with the chroot command like dchroot -d does? |
| 14:54.23 | takatumi | yomguy: checked bts? |
| 14:54.27 | sandman | valdyn_: I tried that, there was still the problem |
| 14:54.31 | rikclark | http://www.ss64.com/bash/while.html had my answer - while /bin/true;do obexserver;done Thanks for making me learn ;) |
| 14:54.36 | sandman | xauth - or whtever the command was |
| 14:54.58 | sandman | But thanks, that works |
| 14:54.59 | yomguy | takatumi, nothing there ! :-$ |
| 14:55.07 | abrotman | !sux |
| 14:55.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root: http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about.", or apt-get install sux, or something that anyone who spells "sucks" as "sux" does. |
| 14:55.10 | valdyn_ | sandman: uh, xauth is the issue that is solved by bind mounting /home, those 2 things arent directly related |
| 14:55.13 | quittt | sandman, do you how can I make XMMS ignore illegal mpeg layers from mp3? |
| 14:55.18 | takatumi | yomguy: file one. |
| 14:55.18 | quittt | or a program that can remove that |
| 14:55.52 | EmleyMoor | Under mysql-4.1, what's the default database admin username and password, or how do I set them? |
| 14:56.17 | quittt | sandman, any idea? |
| 14:56.20 | valdyn_ | rikclark: you sure that isnt better solved via /etc/inetd.conf ? |
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| 14:57.06 | fatal_ | EmleyMoor: root, no password. |
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| 14:57.49 | fatal_ | EmleyMoor: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/default-privileges.html |
| 14:58.11 | fatal_ | EmleyMoor: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/resetting-permissions.html |
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| 14:58.20 | yomguy | takatumi, yeah, i'll do that, thanks ! |
| 14:58.24 | rikclark | valdyn_: that does seem like a better solution. I will implement that when I get round to a more permanent solution. Thanks for the advice. |
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| 14:59.39 | sandman | quittt: Sorry no |
| 14:59.42 | sandman | quittt: I'm actually @ work |
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| 15:02.33 | Khiraly | cat /mnt/rip/DeadLine.iso >/dev/dvd |
| 15:02.35 | Khiraly | hmm |
| 15:02.47 | Khiraly | it seems to work. LoL |
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| 15:03.25 | sandman | Why must /home and /chroot/home be bound? |
| 15:03.39 | sandman | Because of .Xauthority? |
| 15:04.13 | abrotman | quittt: ask #xmms |
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| 15:04.48 | sandman | Doesn't running multiple versions of something on the same system have the potential of mucking up /home/.* stuff? |
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| 15:04.54 | sandman | Like lets say running multiple versions of gimp |
| 15:05.09 | dac_adc | q |
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| 15:05.50 | kioto | hi all |
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| 15:06.05 | nazcafan | hi |
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| 15:06.16 | abrotman | sandman: and how/why would it do that ? |
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| 15:07.47 | kioto | i have problem with apt-get because the last time i have used a unofficial package |
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| 15:08.22 | kioto | that i have downloaded manually to install a p2p client and now, when i try to launch |
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| 15:08.41 | sandman | abrotman: Well, I recall that back in the day, sometimes one would have to rm -rf ~/.mozilla for mozilla to run properly if you upgraded |
| 15:08.44 | kioto | apt-get install software i get the same error-message |
| 15:08.48 | Ungy | is the ftp.debian.org down? |
| 15:08.49 | sandman | And the ~/.mozilla was from an older version |
| 15:08.59 | abrotman | sandman: that doesn't even come close to being the same as you suggested |
| 15:09.18 | sandman | Why do I keep getting so many errors and apt-get updating, even after getting apt/experimental? |
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| 15:09.24 | abrotman | Ungy: apparnetly .. as is www.d.o |
| 15:09.27 | abrotman | oh .. nm |
| 15:09.34 | kioto | http://phpfi.com/85824 |
| 15:09.34 | IknowedD | xfree86 on etch is a CPU hog in idle...why? |
| 15:09.36 | Ungy | abrotman, ahh well that makes sense |
| 15:09.43 | kioto | this is the output message |
| 15:09.49 | abrotman | Ungy: www works .. |
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| 15:09.58 | abrotman | Ungy: though .. looks like packages.d.o doesn't |
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| 15:10.26 | gypsymauro | hello |
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| 15:11.22 | Ungy | thanks abrotman just wanted to make sure that it isn't just my connection |
| 15:11.29 | EmleyMoor | After installing horde2, what do I have to do to make it accessible? |
| 15:11.41 | abrotman | Ungy: nah .. and when i see an op .. i'll have them add it to the topic |
| 15:11.43 | |dennis| | Please Help!!! > http://pastebin.ca/27881 |
| 15:11.49 | abrotman | !irritate |dennis| |
| 15:11.52 | dpkg | |dennis|: hi every1 where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol lol |
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| 15:11.57 | gypsymauro | I'm trying to import some packages into apt-proxy archive I run apt-proxy-import --import-dir=mydebs but I get this error: 2005/11/07 15:27 CET [-] [import] fp-compiler_2.0.0-1_i386.deb skipped - no suitable backend found |
| 15:12.02 | gypsymauro | any hint? |
| 15:12.39 | abrotman | |dennis|: maybe your raid array is failing ? |
| 15:12.41 | IknowedD | why is xfree86 on etch sucking cycles like there was oxygen in my bus ? |
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| 15:13.03 | abrotman | IknowedD: because you're running KDE ? |
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| 15:13.09 | Ungy | heh |
| 15:13.12 | godambi | I have two machines on a netwrok with 172 series IP address and a device with 192 series IP connceted to one of the 172 series machines... |
| 15:13.13 | |dennis| | abrotman: the adaptech after-post utility says everything if fine.....raidutils says everything is fine |
| 15:13.29 | abrotman | |dennis|: did you try to fsck the drives ? |
| 15:13.36 | |dennis| | abrotman: yes |
| 15:13.42 | michael_ | I have configured my 3c59x module (3com nic) with a certain line with modconf. is it possible to remotely see the options, I have added at configuration? |
| 15:13.45 | abrotman | |dennis|: and no errors ? |
| 15:14.02 | abrotman | michael_: at boot time? |
| 15:14.02 | godambi | now the 172 series IP machine has been SNATed to 192 IP device |
| 15:14.04 | |dennis| | nope |
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| 15:14.12 | abrotman | |dennis|: you can try debsums |
| 15:14.20 | Shauny | Hi people. |
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| 15:14.28 | godambi | so the other 172 seriesed IP machine is able to send packets to 192 IPed device |
| 15:14.29 | |dennis| | abrotman: let me check..thanks... |
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| 15:14.44 | michael_ | abrotman: no while I am logged in from remote as su ... |
| 15:14.51 | abrotman | michael_: dmesg ? |
| 15:14.51 | |dennis| | abrotman: debsums to verify which package?? |
| 15:14.56 | abrotman | |dennis|: all? |
| 15:15.07 | godambi | but 192 seriesed device is not able to send back the packets to 172 machine in the middle ...? |
| 15:15.23 | EdibleText | gypsymauro, missing depends perhaps? |
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| 15:15.37 | fatal_ | godambi: using NAT between two unroutable ip-ranges (which I guess is what you are doing) is never a good solution.... try to avoid NAt and set up proper routing instead... |
| 15:15.40 | godambi | How to DNAT them, the ip address of the device can't be changed... |
| 15:15.53 | Shauny | I need to keep passwords in synchronisation between two samba boxes... is NIS the only method of sharing the password file, or are there alternatives. Also I heard it once said that NIS is a horrible beast and should be avoided. Not least for security reasons. |
| 15:15.58 | abrotman | godambi: ask #iptables ? |
| 15:16.08 | michael_ | abrotman: hm nah, I'd like to get the output of my 3c59x configuration (like "3c59x debug=1 options=4 full_duplex=1) ... I did that on that machine already, I just like to see, what I had entered exactly at that time... |
| 15:16.09 | |dennis| | abrotman: all?? all was working well...for a month now.....and all of a sudden oevr the weekend stopped...do you still think its a question of the integrity of the packages?? |
| 15:16.10 | EdibleText | Shauny, ldap |
| 15:16.10 | abrotman | Shauny: rsync ? |
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| 15:16.32 | Shauny | abrotman : hmmm... yes perhaps rsync! |
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| 15:16.35 | planadecu | hi |
| 15:16.38 | abrotman | |dennis|: it's possible .. it's a public machine ? .. you're running sarge ? |
| 15:16.41 | ecc | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.43 | planadecu | whats the module of the usb core ?? |
| 15:16.45 | gypsymauro | EdibleText: no I don't think that I can install them if I run dpkg -i *.deb |
| 15:16.49 | Shauny | is NIS still percieved as being a crock of shit ? |
| 15:16.51 | planadecu | i need to modprobe it |
| 15:17.00 | godambi | fatal_; 192 series IP is a device not a computer |
| 15:17.05 | asuffield | Shauny: yup |
| 15:17.07 | abrotman | Shauny: useful for some things |
| 15:17.13 | Kian|worK | hi |
| 15:17.18 | saloxin | michael_: it probably says in /etc/modules.conf |
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| 15:17.27 | |dennis| | abrotman: it does have sarge installed....and public as in in production to run mail serverices, web server, ftp, nis, ssh and so on..yes... |
| 15:17.28 | Shauny | ok kewlio, I shall try and use rsync. I already use it for backups so.... :) |
| 15:17.38 | fatal_ | godambi: well, do the routing in the _router_. :) |
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| 15:17.52 | Kian|worK | i'd like to know how to change debian's console logon text, do you know how to do that please ? |
| 15:17.54 | abrotman | |dennis|: could have been cracked .. i suppose .. |
| 15:18.04 | EmleyMoor | I have just installed horde2 on a sarge box but attempting to access it tries to download an unnamed application/x-httpd-php. What do I need to do to fix it? |
| 15:18.04 | godambi | fatal_: forget it |
| 15:18.06 | saloxin | Kian|worK: edit /etc/motd |
| 15:18.06 | Kian|worK | i mean the text saying "blablabla Debian .. No warranty .. blabla" |
| 15:18.11 | Kian|worK | ok thanks ! |
| 15:18.29 | michael_ | saloxin: unfortunatelty not. it's the eth0 device I am looking for ... |
| 15:18.33 | abrotman | Kian|worK: /etc/issue ? |
| 15:18.46 | |dennis| | abrotman: thanks..shall look into it.....thanks a bunch... |
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| 15:18.51 | Shauny | abrotman: one question. how would i get new user name/password pairs updated via rsync instantaneously rather than running rsync trough cron once a minute ? |
| 15:19.10 | Shauny | s/trough/through |
| 15:19.14 | Kian|worK | abrotman: motd actually :) |
| 15:19.20 | abrotman | Shauny: i'm not sure you can .. but why doesn't one samba machine auth off the other one ? |
| 15:19.24 | abrotman | Kian|worK: i was close :) |
| 15:19.31 | saloxin | michael_: /etc/modules? /etc/modutils/ ? might even be /etc/modprobe.d/ - start grepping for 3c59x |
| 15:19.44 | Shauny | abrotman: oh... can that be done ? |
| 15:19.53 | abrotman | Shauny: i would hope so |
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| 15:20.10 | Shauny | abrotman: also.. its possible i want to share user names and passwords from NON samba hosts too. i have quite a few boxes. |
| 15:20.11 | abrotman | Shauny: ask #samba or see samba.org .. maybe they have some stuff to help you |
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| 15:20.37 | abrotman | Shauny: i'm sure that's also possible .. you could for instance use LDAP and have all your linux boxen auth from a single LDAP server |
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| 15:20.55 | Shauny | abrotman: interesting. thanks for the ideas I'll go read. |
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| 15:21.40 | chbug | hi! recently my box started randomly mixing eth0 and eth1 at boot. they are provided by different modules. what's the cleanest way to ensure that they will refer to a given hw device consistently? |
| 15:21.50 | EdibleText | Shauny, it sounds like you want to set up samba as a PDC, perhaps using ldap |
| 15:21.54 | mama_soap | Hello, everyone :) I'm sorry that this is the third time I'm bothering everyone with my package problems, but I have not been successful at installing any package after my base system was installed, and I am still looking for help... |
| 15:21.55 | abrotman | chbug: ifrename is one way |
| 15:22.15 | saloxin | chbug: or just list the modules in the order you want them in /etc/modules |
| 15:22.17 | abrotman | mama_soap: you could be more vague ? |
| 15:22.31 | abrotman | mama_soap: wait .. why not ? |
| 15:22.37 | abrotman | error messages are helpful |
| 15:22.46 | mama_soap | I still get the "unable to open files list file for package `psmisc': Input/output error" |
| 15:22.46 | EmleyMoor | mama_soap: What kind of unsuccess are you having? |
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| 15:23.00 | abrotman | mama_soap: did you do an `apt-get update` ? |
| 15:23.13 | mama_soap | and I am fairly sure that my hard disk is all right, mainly because badblocks doesn't return anything. |
| 15:23.18 | chbug | saloxin, in terms of best practice, should I put lots of stuff in /etc/modules or let the system do the work itself? |
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| 15:24.05 | EdibleText | mama_soap, It wouldnt hurt to fsck |
| 15:24.10 | mama_soap | abrotman: Yes, I did. That works fine, the problem is with the apt-get install <package> |
| 15:24.12 | saloxin | chbug: i like stuff in /etc/modules, so I don't have to trust hotplug magic. for crucial modules needed to boot+network i'd say /etc/modules is the way |
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| 15:24.31 | Shauny | edibletext: I already have it setup as a PDC. But i now have another samba box and want the passwords to be in sync with each other. Unfortunately I have an old samba book so I'll have to read up on some of the new samba stuff. |
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| 15:24.53 | chbug | saloxin: tx, I was also a bit worried by hotplug magic, but so far it worked :-) |
| 15:24.55 | Shauny | EdibleText: but it seems LDAP and a PDC will indeed solve my woes. |
| 15:24.56 | mama_soap | Edible Text: Are you sure I can safely fsck on the device where root is mounted? |
| 15:25.04 | deeLer | is there a way to resize patritions (ext3) without loss of data ? |
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| 15:25.15 | EdibleText | mama_soap, mount / -o remount,ro |
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| 15:25.34 | guillaume-fr | Hello, do you know where i can find some help for the setup of exim4 transport and router for mailman ? I use this doc http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman21.html but i still get this error :"R=system_aliases defer (-30): pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router |
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| 15:26.00 | EdibleText | Shauny, you can add the other samba box to the domain. then it behaves like a winders box |
| 15:26.02 | Shauny | deeler: back it up, recreate it, copy it back. many tools for doing this exist (for instance tar) |
| 15:26.05 | mama_soap | Edible Text: Thank you, I'll try that, and I guess I'll be back if/when I have further doubts. Thank you! |
| 15:26.21 | pabs3 | guillaume-fr: read README.Exim from the mailman package |
| 15:26.26 | EdibleText | Shauny, in regards to athenticating from the PDFC that is |
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| 15:26.30 | EdibleText | er PDC |
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| 15:26.48 | Shauny | edibletext: to be honest I dont really know about the windows side of things, I setup the PDC two years ago it's only now that I've needed to bring another one online. I want them to share the account details. |
| 15:26.57 | michael_ | I have set my NIC to full duplex but when trying to load something through ftp from this machine, I only get ~170kb/s though I am on a switched 100mbit network? why is that? |
| 15:27.08 | meursault | hi guys! does anybody know if the trident microsystem cyberblade/i7 is a VESA 2.0 card or a VESA 1.2 card? |
| 15:27.27 | EdibleText | Shauny, you want that users can access shares from the other (non PDC) box? |
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| 15:27.30 | Shauny | michael: is it a 100mbit switch? what colour is the light. does it say full or half duplex? |
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| 15:27.35 | guillaume-fr | pabs3: it's better than the exim source ? |
| 15:27.35 | RelAj0 | how can i make a list of all hosts on samba? |
| 15:27.39 | Shauny | edibletext: yes |
| 15:27.51 | EdibleText | Shauny, add the other samba box to the domain |
| 15:27.56 | Shauny | relaj0: smbstatus |
| 15:27.56 | abrotman | michael_: kb or KB ? |
| 15:28.05 | Shauny | edibletext: okies. |
| 15:28.22 | RelAj0 | Shauny, thanks let me read the man |
| 15:28.24 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | how to add in /etc/apt/sources.list folder where i copy all package of debian, and he toread from that (sorry for bad english) ?! |
| 15:28.28 | pabs3 | guillaume-fr: um, after reading that, probably not, sorry |
| 15:28.32 | michael_ | Shauny: well, there are no light indicators but my NIC is configured to be forced to FullDuplex. and I have the same NIC on a diff machine here and on that one it works fine (running both deb3.0) |
| 15:28.48 | abrotman | AuReUs_ReCtoR: what is your native language ? |
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| 15:28.59 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | Serbian :) |
| 15:29.00 | michael_ | abrotman: think it's KB then ... |
| 15:29.02 | abrotman | oh |
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| 15:29.14 | abrotman | michael_: if it's KB .. that's not a bad speed at all |
| 15:29.19 | abrotman | wait . is it ? |
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| 15:29.34 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | hmmm, i try yo write in file: deb file://dir1/pool/ contrib main |
| 15:29.39 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | and he don`t won`t read |
| 15:30.01 | guillaume-fr | pabs3: i'll look at it as i found a readme exim, may be it could help me :) |
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| 15:30.11 | michael_ | abrotman: uhhm on a 100mbit with ~170 kilibyte/s ? I usually get ~6MegaByte/s .... |
| 15:30.15 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | say that no such file or directory |
| 15:30.22 | EdibleText | abrotman, you should be able to count to 1024 then ;) |
| 15:31.00 | RelAj0 | Shauny, that didnt help i want to make a list of the entire network netbios names and ips |
| 15:31.29 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | soo, which line to add in sources.list to read apt-get from that dir. ?! :))) |
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| 15:31.50 | michael_ | abrotman: the weird thing is, recieving is fine - full speed all the time. but when this machine "sends" it's so damn slow! |
| 15:31.57 | EdibleText | RelAj0, smbclient -L <master broswer> |
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| 15:32.18 | Shauny | relaj0: smbclient -L \\localhost, hit return twice. ;) |
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| 15:32.21 | relajo__ | Shauny, that didnt help i want to make a list of the entire network netbios names and ips |
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| 15:32.36 | Shauny | rlajo_ read what EdibleText said! |
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| 15:32.54 | abrotman | michael_: 100 Megabit .. 170 KiloByte .. 170 * 8 |
| 15:32.59 | relajo__ | i dindt see it i felt |
| 15:33.05 | EdibleText | RelAj0, nbtscan |
| 15:33.19 | EdibleText | RelAj0, eg nbtscan 192.168.100.1-254 |
| 15:33.20 | relajo__ | thanks |
| 15:33.31 | fbi | i really hate when you upgrade to testing and find out that a very useful feature has been removed from an app that got upgraded. |
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| 15:34.01 | EmleyMoor | My apache is persuading browsers to download php files instead of rendering them. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix it? |
| 15:34.07 | michael_1 | abrotman: sry... just please give me some hints where to start? sending through eth0 is TOO slow! way too slow, though it's configured correctly |
| 15:34.44 | thingfish | I messed with things from etch and sid, but as of yesterday, I'm back to pure sarge. |
| 15:34.48 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: search the config file for php |
| 15:35.01 | quiet | are there net-inst ISO's for SID? every time I try to dist-upgrade from etch it errors out with the e2fsprogs thing... |
| 15:35.08 | fbi | i wish i could run sarge, but new hardware forced an upgrade |
| 15:35.10 | Shauny | EmleyMoor: you need to add the php processor to the apache.conf file. On sarge that's done using some module util. |
| 15:35.20 | pabs3 | fbi: which package? |
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| 15:35.25 | syntaxis | quiet: what error message do you get? |
| 15:35.27 | TheCount | fbi: who? that should only have been the kernel |
| 15:35.31 | EmleyMoor | nkuttler: And do what with it? |
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| 15:35.35 | TheCount | s/who/huh/ |
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| 15:35.42 | EmleyMoor | Shauny: Can you guide me as to what? |
| 15:35.42 | EdibleText | fbi, you had to dist upgrade for hardware.. not just the kernel? |
| 15:35.50 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: um, the apache config file i mean, read it |
| 15:35.51 | Shauny | EmleyMoor: let me look at mine. wait. |
| 15:35.57 | fbi | pabs3: for one, etch's galeon doesn't have a debian packages search field in the toolbar |
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| 15:36.15 | EmleyMoor | nkuttler: Have already tried the only relevant piece of advice, I think - still no go |
| 15:36.17 | thingfish | fbi: yeah, that's unfortunate. |
| 15:36.25 | quiet | syntaxis, something about how it can't do it because of some dangers or something... tells me to enable APT::force-loop or something like that (I don't have it in front of me ATM) |
| 15:36.28 | fbi | EdibleText: no, i alsao needed newer versions of a few apps that are now in etch |
| 15:36.34 | pabs3 | fbi: you mean one of those smart bookmarks? |
| 15:36.37 | fbi | s/alsao/also/ |
| 15:36.43 | thingfish | new hardware can be an ordeal in any distro. |
| 15:36.53 | fbi | pabs3: yeah, after upgrade it seems to have disappeared |
| 15:36.55 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: apt-cache search lib apache php, you need one of them |
| 15:37.02 | fbi | i used that a lot |
| 15:37.02 | syntaxis | quiet: you're dist-upgrading using aptitude, not apt-get, right? |
| 15:37.13 | pabs3 | fbi: have one with this smart url: http://packages.debian.org/%s |
| 15:37.21 | pabs3 | its custom tho |
| 15:37.25 | fbi | cheers |
| 15:37.30 | deeLer | the "configure" command in debian, in what package is it ? |
| 15:37.32 | quiet | syntaxis, :\ no.. i've only ever known apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 15:37.52 | syntaxis | quiet: apt-get dist-upgrade is no longer supported... use aptitude |
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| 15:38.02 | syntaxis | quiet: this is mentioned in the sarge release notes, fwiw |
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| 15:38.12 | EmleyMoor | Got one - what do I do with it? |
| 15:38.42 | syntaxis | quiet: not a great hardship... just type "aptitude dist-upgrade" instead |
| 15:38.44 | michael_1 | anybody able to tell me, why my 3com nic (3c59x module - full duplex forced) sends with only ~170 KiloByte/s, though the same card on another Debian3.0 machine with the exact same configuration is able to send at 100mbit speeds!? |
| 15:38.51 | quiet | syntaxis, ok |
| 15:38.53 | quiet | thanks |
| 15:38.58 | abrotman | michael_1: i'm saying that 170KB and 100Megabit .. aren't that far apart |
| 15:39.00 | syntaxis | quiet: no worries :-) |
| 15:39.01 | abrotman | !170 * 8 |
| 15:39.02 | dpkg | 1360 |
| 15:39.05 | redguy | michael_1: maybe the NIC is broken |
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| 15:39.23 | Shauny | EmleyMor: YOu need to read the top of the tile /etc/apache2/httpd.conf it tells you the command |
| 15:39.44 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: or /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian |
| 15:39.45 | michael_1 | abrotman: are you kidding me? it's worlds! |
| 15:39.52 | Shauny | emleymor: this file should no longer be edited by hand. just add the AddType directives using this |
| 15:40.12 | abrotman | nearly a plonk! |
| 15:40.17 | michael_1 | redguy: could be broken cable, too? |
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| 15:40.43 | redguy | michael_1: might be, the switch might be broken as well |
| 15:41.08 | michael_1 | redguy: but all my boxes are on the same switch. and the other one works great! |
| 15:41.19 | abrotman | michael_1: double check all your NIC settings .. on both machines .. check the switch .. try mii-tool or etherconf |
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| 15:42.06 | EmleyMoor | I'm not using apache2 |
| 15:42.09 | abrotman | see .. i told you i can't do math |
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| 15:44.23 | Shauny | EmleyMoor: just AddType application/x-httpd-php .php, in your http.conf then /etc/init.d/apache reload |
| 15:44.25 | redguy | !100 / 8 |
| 15:44.25 | dpkg | 12.5 |
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| 15:44.38 | redguy | so it's like 2 orders of magnitude :-) |
| 15:44.42 | EmleyMoor | Shauny: Tried that already... no difference |
| 15:44.52 | Shauny | EmleyMoor: you have installed php ? |
| 15:45.02 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
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| 15:45.16 | redguy | erm, one order of magnitude of course |
| 15:45.19 | Shauny | emleymoor : dpkg -l php4 ? |
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| 15:45.59 | EmleyMoor | ii |
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| 15:46.56 | theD3viL | My sound is broken, i made new user and if i login as root sound works, if i am user sound doesnt work! |
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| 15:47.04 | Xenguy | back |
| 15:47.11 | Xenguy | ww |
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| 15:47.49 | EmleyMoor | Any further suggestions? |
| 15:48.16 | abrotman | theD3viL: are you in the audio group ? |
| 15:48.31 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: what'd you break ? |
| 15:49.16 | EmleyMoor | I am unable to get php working in apache - it persuades my browser to download the files instead of render them |
| 15:49.26 | macsim | I'm unable to use udev with gnome with a sid, may I have help ? |
| 15:50.00 | deeLer | i need to do a configure, make , make install, but "configure " is not a knwon command, what package should i download ???????? |
| 15:50.03 | syntaxis | macsim: please post the exact error(s) you are having |
| 15:50.32 | redguy | deeLer: try ./configure |
| 15:50.48 | deeLer | redguy, doesn't work |
| 15:50.51 | redguy | deeLer: in the source directory |
| 15:50.51 | deeLer | no such command |
| 15:51.13 | kavorka | ++EYUI[ |
| 15:51.15 | kavorka | '/YHUI |
| 15:51.29 | macsim | syntaxis: I have install gnome and gnome-volume-manager, udev, and when I add a usb key the key is not automounted, the key is reconized, I can see it in syslog |
| 15:52.01 | redguy | deeLer: configure is usually a script provided by the author. it is included in the sources. Also read the INSTALL file before... |
| 15:52.03 | EmleyMoor | My /etc/apache/modules.conf lacks a line for php4_module. The file is maintained by the apache package. How do I fix it? |
| 15:52.15 | redguy | ah |
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| 15:52.27 | redguy | deeLer: configure is usually a script provided by the author. it is included in the sources. Also read the INSTALL file before... |
| 15:52.34 | deeler | okay |
| 15:52.47 | redguy | deeler: which is also supposed to be included |
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| 15:53.43 | deeler | checking whether gcc works : no ... ? what to do now ? |
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| 15:54.00 | jbroome | install gcc |
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| 15:54.18 | laurens_ | hi. is mounting /tmp noexec a Good Thing (TM)? |
| 15:54.35 | redguy | deeler: as for 'make install' it is recommended to use checkinstall; aptitude install checkinstall, man checkinstall |
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| 15:55.09 | deeler | check install is an alternative then to make install ? |
| 15:55.31 | daxStryFe | not exactly, checkinstall makes a log of where things got installed |
| 15:55.40 | laurens_ | deeler: checkinstall |
| 15:55.43 | laurens_ | not check install |
| 15:55.44 | deeler | i did apt-get install gcc-3.4 ... still the same error .... wierd |
| 15:55.46 | deeler | checking whether gcc works : no ... ? what to do now ? |
| 15:55.53 | laurens_ | deeler: gcc -v |
| 15:56.04 | laurens_ | and please COPY the line |
| 15:56.07 | laurens_ | dont type it yourself |
| 15:56.10 | sandman | What locales should I select if I'm an english speaker? |
| 15:56.15 | deeler | gcc version 4.02 (debian 4.02-2) |
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| 15:56.19 | laurens_ | sandman: en-UTF8 |
| 15:56.25 | laurens_ | or en-us-UTF8 |
| 15:56.28 | laurens_ | something like that :P |
| 15:56.35 | laurens_ | en-us with utf-8. the rest sucks ;-) |
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| 15:56.44 | laurens_ | deeler: paste the exact line |
| 15:56.46 | sandman | The two en-USs? |
| 15:56.54 | laurens_ | sandman: I prefer to pick only one. |
| 15:57.01 | laurens_ | sandman: you can add locales later if you need it |
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| 15:57.15 | laurens_ | sandman: but nowadays anything other than utf-8 is useless ;-) |
| 15:57.20 | deeler | gcc version 4.0.2 (debian 4.0.2-2) |
| 15:57.24 | sandman | These two?: [*] en_US ISO-8859-1 . |
| 15:57.26 | EmleyMoor | If I read this correctly, I need some kind of .info file in /usr/lib/apache/1.3 for apache-modconf apache enable mod php4 to make the change to the file. I am lacking such file, it seems |
| 15:57.26 | laurens_ | deeler: not that |
| 15:57.27 | sandman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.36 | laurens_ | sandman: the second. not the iso but utf-8 |
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| 15:57.45 | laurens_ | deeler: the line where make tells you that gcc is broken |
| 15:57.51 | sandman | Which should I select as the default? |
| 15:57.55 | deeler | okay: |
| 15:57.57 | sandman | UTF-8 one? |
| 15:57.59 | laurens_ | sandman: UTF-8 |
| 15:58.05 | deeler | checking for gcc... gcc |
| 15:58.05 | laurens_ | sandman: ISO ONLY works for english and similar |
| 15:58.13 | EmleyMoor | Um... hold on , it is there |
| 15:58.21 | laurens_ | UTF-8 also works for other stuff like japanese |
| 15:58.22 | sandman | Can the system only use one locale at a time? I don't totally understand locales |
| 15:58.28 | deeler | checking wheter the C compiler (gcc ) works... no |
| 15:58.43 | laurens_ | sandman: You can have several installed. You can only use one at a time per program. |
| 15:58.57 | laurens_ | sandman: suppose you start a program and get an error message in japanese |
| 15:59.13 | laurens_ | you can still run it like so: LOCALE="C" broken-program |
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| 16:00.07 | laurens_ | sandman: Need more explaining? |
| 16:00.27 | sandman | laurens_: No thank you |
| 16:00.38 | laurens_ | sandman: no problem |
| 16:00.41 | laurens_ | sandman: anyway, use utf-8 |
| 16:00.57 | laurens_ | sandman: since you speak english, your files should barely get bigger, if they get bigger at all. |
| 16:01.19 | laurens_ | sandman: if you use a LOT of japanese, consider another character set |
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| 16:02.10 | disposable | does anyone have a working cinelerra .deb for debian stable? |
| 16:02.10 | EmleyMoor | Found error - was lacking an underscore, but STILL no difference |
| 16:03.14 | tarzeau | takatumi: yes sysctl shows alot about hw.acpi so i think it's in |
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| 16:04.12 | macsim | (bad net.agent invocation: $INTERFACE is not set ) where can I fix it ? |
| 16:04.18 | macsim | about udev |
| 16:04.55 | pookey | hey all. can anyone tell me if the debian 2.4 kernel has HIGHMEM4G support in the kernel? a client of ours server isn't reporting more then 1gig of ram - I find it hard to beleive that hte default debian kernel wouldn't be supporting high memory though |
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| 16:05.25 | EmleyMoor | I am unable to get php to work in apache - it makes browsers download files instead of rendering - everything appears to chedck out though - anything I specifically should check for? |
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| 16:05.47 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: you did actually double check for the AddType line .. right ? |
| 16:05.51 | guillaume-fr | pabs3: i found the mistake for mailman setup, the doc of exim doesn't put the router config at the right place in the exim config file. Thank you very much for your help :o)))) |
| 16:06.04 | sandman | how to unbind a mount -o bind'd directory? |
| 16:06.06 | EmleyMoor | abrotman: Quadruple checked, to be precise |
| 16:06.17 | pabs3 | guillaume-fr: no probs :) |
| 16:06.24 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: and restarted apache .. and you have libapache-mod-php4 installed ? |
| 16:06.26 | flammifer | my network suddenly stops working, and I have to reboot the machine before it comes back. That's the kind of behaviour I expect from windows, not Linux :P |
| 16:06.27 | macsim | sander: umount /bind'd dir |
| 16:06.34 | macsim | sandman: umount /bind'd dir |
| 16:06.40 | EmleyMoor | Yes and yes - just trying another combination now |
| 16:06.56 | sandman | macsim: It keeps telling me it's busy |
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| 16:07.07 | flammifer | where should I look to find the root of spontaneous network death problems ? |
| 16:07.21 | EmleyMoor | Still no go |
| 16:07.23 | mplex | what kind of death problem? |
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| 16:07.31 | abrotman | flammifer: power company ? |
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| 16:07.58 | EmleyMoor | Internal network or external? |
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| 16:08.11 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: i don't remember .. is there a way to see which apache modules are loaded ? |
| 16:08.12 | flammifer | abrotman, no, because the network works again as soon as I reboot. So, the problem is local (and normally, you never have to reboot on debian) |
| 16:08.26 | mplex | I had a problem with a network monitoring server recently dropping a couple packets once a week or so, turned out to be the kernel |
| 16:08.42 | mplex | I just dont trust 2.6 |
| 16:08.51 | Morydd | I just upgraded, using apt, kernel to 2.6.12 and am getting kernel panic. "VFS: Cannot open root device "1603" or unknown-block(22,3)" |
| 16:08.58 | flammifer | (I'm not running a server or anything by the way ...) |
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| 16:09.07 | stew | Morydd: you didn't tell you bootloader about the initrd |
| 16:09.47 | Morydd | stew: how do I do that? |
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| 16:10.04 | stew | Morydd: you use lilo or grub? |
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| 16:10.12 | Morydd | stew: lilo |
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| 16:11.07 | stew | Morydd: you need a "initrd=/initrd.img " or "initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-1-386" or whatever the path is in the stanza for the new kernel, then rerun lilo |
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| 16:11.24 | stew | Morydd: the package warned you about this when you were installing it |
| 16:11.30 | chris_ | Anybody knows how to install the flash plugin for Mozilla? apt-get doesn't find any package. |
| 16:11.53 | Oceanborn | I can't switch to TTY from Xorg by CTRL_ALT_Fx. Should I install something extra or it's a bug? |
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| 16:12.41 | disposable | how do i find out which package a particular file belongs to? ie libGL.so.1.2 |
| 16:12.58 | enveezee | chris_: flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:12.59 | stew | disposable: if its installed "dpkg -S filename" if its not installed "apt-file search filename" |
| 16:13.04 | enveezee | chris_: you need non-free sources |
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| 16:13.10 | Oceanborn | disposable, iirc dpkg -S file |
| 16:13.15 | stew | Oceanborn: does running "chvt 1" as root work? |
| 16:13.22 | thingfish | I always just get flash from macromedia and install it "their" way. There's a flashplayer-mozilla though... |
| 16:13.23 | disposable | Oceanborn: tnx |
| 16:13.31 | takatumi | tarzeau: I'll wait for the wireless as well. :) |
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| 16:13.45 | chris_ | enveezee: I tried "apt-get -t unstable install flashplugin-nonfree" but it still won't be found. |
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| 16:13.59 | enveezee | chris_: you need non-free sources |
| 16:14.04 | Oceanborn | stew, I am windows now ) Can't try |
| 16:14.08 | chris_ | thingfish: Thanks, I know about this way. But isn't it better to install it the "Debian way"? |
| 16:14.10 | craig | Hello everyone. libmimelib1c2 is proving impossible to install onto the system.. complains about trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmimelib.so.1.0.1' which is also in package libmimelib1 |
| 16:14.11 | tarzeau | takatumi: ok but you'll be the first to try/test it out. agree? |
| 16:14.17 | craig | anyone got a quick solution? :/ |
| 16:14.23 | chris_ | enveezee: How do I get these? |
| 16:14.28 | astroman | WHY ARE DEBIAN NOT RUN ON COMPUTER? |
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| 16:14.42 | takatumi | tarzeau: do I have to whack my existing kernel and installation? |
| 16:14.43 | tarzeau | craig: sid? |
| 16:14.47 | enveezee | chris_: add non-free to your sources.list |
| 16:14.52 | tarzeau | takatumi: you need a different partition for it |
| 16:14.57 | enveezee | dpkg, tell chris_ about non-free |
| 16:15.02 | takatumi | tarzeau: yeah, I have a spare one. |
| 16:15.02 | thingfish | chris_: I suppose it is better to do it the Debian way. Installing flash is the only non-debian thing like that I do. |
| 16:15.07 | craig | tarzeau: uh.... if that is unstable, then yes. |
| 16:15.09 | tarzeau | takatumi: size? |
| 16:15.17 | takatumi | tarzeau: 8GB or so. |
| 16:15.17 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 16:15.18 | dpkg | hmm... sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 16:15.21 | craig | (been out of the entire debian's naming) |
| 16:15.22 | chris_ | enveezee: ok, thanks, will check this. |
| 16:15.25 | Lee__ | how does Debian maintain group membership? I juse added myself to a group and it isn't appearing in /etc/group |
| 16:15.29 | chris_ | thingfish: ok. :-) |
| 16:15.32 | tarzeau | craig: remove the old one first? |
| 16:15.46 | tarzeau | lehow did you add yourself to it? |
| 16:15.53 | tarzeau | Lee__: that was for you |
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| 16:15.55 | Lee__ | tarzeau, usermod -G group lee |
| 16:16.03 | [aJ] | is there a way to get apt-get to resolve dependencies? |
| 16:16.06 | craig | tarzeau: still complains |
| 16:16.09 | bgat | anyone having a problem with i2o on 2.6.12? |
| 16:16.15 | tarzeau | Lee__: adduser lee group always worked for me |
| 16:16.19 | craig | tarzeau: it's like watching tennis without the ball.. |
| 16:16.27 | Lee__ | okay. I'll try that. |
| 16:16.31 | sandman | I cannot umount bound directories because it keeps telling me the dirs are busy. |
| 16:16.33 | possie | does debian also have xdmcp?? |
| 16:16.34 | tarzeau | craig: same message? you didn't remove that package did you? |
| 16:16.40 | sandman | Sure, the /home it's bound to is busy, but hte bound dir itself isn't.. |
| 16:16.42 | astroman | can debian be installed on a computer? |
| 16:16.44 | tarzeau | sandman: fuser -k /the/dir |
| 16:16.48 | bgat | I'm using an adaptec 3410s, and 2.6.12 hangs a boot with "i2o controller probe failed err = -110" any ideas? |
| 16:16.54 | bgat | 2.6.8 works fine |
| 16:16.57 | tarzeau | possie: any *dm has |
| 16:17.03 | craig | tarzeau: I just did apt-get -f install and it still complains |
| 16:17.03 | takatumi | astroman: no you need a kiosk. |
| 16:17.08 | tarzeau | [aJ]: like what? |
| 16:17.12 | craig | tarzeau: tried to put it on hold, no go. |
| 16:17.15 | possie | tarzeau, okee, i'm using gdm, so it should |
| 16:17.17 | tarzeau | craig: read the sid faq? |
| 16:17.21 | pookey | Is anyone here running debians default 2.4 kernel? |
| 16:17.25 | Lee__ | oh, this is strange. if I type 'id' it shows me a lot more groups than if I type 'id lee' although I'm already loged in as that user. |
| 16:17.30 | craig | tarzeau: starting :) |
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| 16:17.37 | spike | hi |
| 16:17.44 | sandman | tarzeau: Tells me this: No automatic removal. Please use umount /home/etch/home |
| 16:18.01 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 16:18.02 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 16:18.02 | sandman | And just fuser /home/etch/home gives this: /home/etch/home/: |
| 16:18.06 | tarzeau | pookey: check the popcon |
| 16:18.07 | astroman | does debian support keyboards? I want to input text into my computer with a keyboard. is that possible using debian system? |
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| 16:18.12 | sandman | So nothing is using it. The list of processes using that dir is blank |
| 16:18.19 | sandman | But it still tells me its busy. |
| 16:18.23 | tarzeau | astroman: yes much better than with freebsd on a sparc |
| 16:18.27 | spike | I needed to do a woody netinstall, so I downloaded a woody netinst image I found. the thing is, once I got to the screen where it asks me for the install medium, network option wasnt there |
| 16:18.28 | pabs3 | anyone here have a camera that works with gphoto2? can you tell me what permissions you have on your usb devices? |
| 16:18.42 | tarzeau | pabs3: i'm root. works fine |
| 16:18.44 | Lee__ | pabs3, try installing pmount |
| 16:18.52 | spike | then I found a full woody cd1, and that had the option. I was wondering if anybody could point me to a netinstall woody image that actually has the network option |
| 16:18.59 | tarzeau | sandman: try with -k |
| 16:19.04 | pabs3 | Lee__: usb camera, not usb-storage |
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| 16:19.15 | craig | tarzeau: hmm looked in the tracking system.. nothing there. |
| 16:19.23 | Lee__ | you mean realtime video camera? |
| 16:19.27 | c_k | hi guys , running proftpd how can I allow files to be resumed if the connection drops at the moment they have to restart the upload/download and I cant find the setting to change this |
| 16:19.29 | enveezee | I watch tennis for the boobs and skirts, I couldnt care less about the ones with the balls :P |
| 16:19.32 | possie | tarzeau, cause my thin client doesn't find my server running X |
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| 16:19.56 | pookey | tarzeau: that doesn't help, becasue I need to know the kernel config used for the default 2.4 kernel ;) |
| 16:19.57 | craig | tarzeau: this is quite an odd problem because another linux box was built the same way never ran into this problem |
| 16:20.02 | sandman | tarzeau: I did that, too. |
| 16:20.05 | shauny | abrotman: you still there ? |
| 16:20.06 | pabs3 | Lee__: still digital camera. I think its udev's fault |
| 16:20.12 | craig | tarzeau: anyway, thanks for your help :) |
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| 16:20.20 | tarzeau | sandman: oh if nothing is using it, you can't kill it |
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| 16:20.23 | astroman | i am curious if it is possible to display text to a user using a monitor in debian. does debian support display devices? |
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| 16:20.42 | thingfish | is this guy for real... |
| 16:21.05 | Nackox | afternoon ya' all |
| 16:21.08 | shauny | EdibleText: i have a question about the PDC thing. |
| 16:21.17 | takatumi | astroman: you need 3D goggles. |
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| 16:21.17 | tarzeau | pookey: you can find it in /boot/config* |
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| 16:21.42 | pookey | tarzeau: yes, I don't use debian. hence asking in here |
| 16:21.46 | EmleyMoor | I have just checked every configuration file that I have - all seems to check out but still no luck |
| 16:21.51 | afabian | astroman, yeah, it's one of Debian's best features. Debian has supported monitors as display devices from the very beginning. It's a widely used feature, very stable and developed. |
| 16:21.55 | sandman | tarzeau: Why |
| 16:22.00 | tarzeau | pookey: there is not one debian kernel. there is one for each arch at least, and more for different ttypes of that arch |
| 16:22.05 | tarzeau | sandman: sorry dunno |
| 16:22.24 | tarzeau | takatumi: i think it's just a troll. i'd ban him |
| 16:22.24 | afabian | astroman, Debian can even use your monitor in graphical mode, if the hardware supports it. |
| 16:22.30 | astroman | my goal is to set up a system in which a user can type text into the computer using a computer and the text will be displayed on the monitor for the user to see |
| 16:22.43 | takatumi | tarzeau: I know so. |
| 16:22.43 | thingfish | *plonk* |
| 16:22.54 | pookey | tarzeau: hence asking for 2.4 default one, perhaps I should have specified I mean for x86. |
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| 16:23.17 | Strider | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.20 | Lee__ | pabs3, aren't digital camera's USB storage devices? |
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| 16:23.27 | tarzeau | pookey: and also if you have smp or not, how much memory and if it's k6, k7, p3 or 486... |
| 16:23.43 | tarzeau | pookey: and soon you'll also have to say, linux, mach, l4 or kfreebsd |
| 16:24.00 | tarzeau | pookey: and who knows, solaris, minix and whatnot |
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| 16:24.01 | takatumi | pabs3: I just mount mine similar to a usb key, works fine. |
| 16:24.19 | tarzeau | Lee__: not all can be accessed like that |
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| 16:24.22 | pabs3 | Lee__: not this one, it only supports that PTPP protocol |
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| 16:25.13 | Lee__ | !? PPTP !? |
| 16:25.20 | astroman | suppose i was typing some text into my computer, and i want to turn my computer off for a while and come back to it later. is it possible to have the computer remember what you were typing? like a "save" feature? |
| 16:25.32 | abrotman | shauny: kind of |
| 16:26.01 | afabian | astroman, these are very basic questions. I would recommend any introductory book on computers. It's quite a wonder that you've gotten on IRC! |
| 16:26.02 | pabs3 | Lee__: I probly got the acronym wrong, but it only has the letters P and T in it |
| 16:26.25 | cahoot | pabl0: ptp IIRC |
| 16:26.28 | chris_ | Lee: "Picture Transfer Protocol", PTP |
| 16:26.29 | mick_home | i'd like to do something similar to http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc for my project - could someone push me in the right direction :-D |
| 16:27.01 | pookey | tarzeau: are you trying to be pedantic for a reason? when you install debian on a non-smp x86 machine and chose to install a 2.4 kernel... it doens't ask you all the questions you're asking me does it? |
| 16:27.06 | cahoot | pabl0: a canon device? |
| 16:27.21 | cahoot | pabs3: : a canon device? |
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| 16:28.10 | takatumi | pookey: those are in the works. |
| 16:28.19 | Strider | Lee: there is a usb camera memory card reader for $25 -no sony or fuji cards |
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| 16:28.47 | pabs3 | cahoot: kodak LS753 - worked fine the other day, after todays sid upgrade gphoto2 gives permission denied |
| 16:28.57 | Strider | Do I have to tell KDE I changed my hostname? |
| 16:29.11 | pookey | takatumi: you're deliberatly making this hard for me aren't you? are you able to answer my question or are you just winding me up for fun? |
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| 16:30.27 | takatumi | pookey: I don't have the stock 2.4 .config, can't tell for sure, but afaik, highmem4g is disabled. |
| 16:30.36 | pookey | takatumi: thank you :) |
| 16:30.38 | tarzeau | pookey: i'm not trying to be pedantic |
| 16:30.54 | tarzeau | pookey: but then the debian kernels are not good for alot of hardware |
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| 16:31.08 | abrotman | ask gphoto about pptp |
| 16:31.11 | thingfish | pookey: you know you could get the headers for your target kernel, and inside there should be a .config. |
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| 16:31.49 | tarzeau | pookey: we have machines with 4+ gb memory, and smp (which kerdebian never installs), nor does debian support a few new network drivers |
| 16:31.50 | jhonny | hello |
| 16:31.51 | abrotman | did pookey look in /boot/ ? |
| 16:31.52 | pookey | tarzeau: it would seem so, a client cna't see half of his memory :) is there are kernel-image-2.4-something with HIGHMEM4G support that you're aware of? |
| 16:31.56 | pookey | abrotman: I don't run debian. |
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| 16:32.04 | abrotman | /proc/config ? |
| 16:32.11 | pookey | abrotman: I still dont' run debian ;) |
| 16:32.16 | abrotman | that's a kernel thing |
| 16:32.20 | takatumi | pookey: roll your own. |
| 16:32.37 | abrotman | pookey: gentoo has a /proc/config.gz .. |
| 16:32.54 | abrotman | pookey: 2.4 doesn't have HIGHMEM enabled .. but 2.6 does |
| 16:32.58 | takatumi | abrotman: if enabled in the kernel, you can have that on debian too, I do. |
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| 16:33.08 | pookey | I'm asking because a client of ours is having problems seeing memory after having upgraded his hardware last night |
| 16:33.16 | pookey | abrotman: 2.4 does support 2 gig of RAM though doens't it > |
| 16:33.20 | abrotman | yes |
| 16:33.20 | Bartolero | hi there, is there some non-interactive sound editor ? I want to apply some basic effects like fade-in/out from a command line |
| 16:33.24 | abrotman | it supports 64GB |
| 16:33.25 | jhonny | how to put minimal desktop shortcut in openbox |
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| 16:33.44 | cahoot | Bartolero: ecasound might be worth a look |
| 16:33.51 | pookey | abrotman: what's the kenel config option in 2.4 then ? |
| 16:34.12 | Bartolero | Thanx cahoot |
| 16:34.23 | jhonny | i mean how to create a desktop shortcut |
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| 16:34.48 | takatumi | pookey: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G or CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G |
| 16:35.03 | Frankablu | Where is the order my init scripts start in listed? |
| 16:35.28 | tarzeau | pookey: yes but i need highmem64g |
| 16:35.29 | abrotman | pookey: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4GB or something like that . |
| 16:35.32 | pookey | takatumi: thanks. do you happen to know of a debian kenrel image with either of those options enabled for x86 ? |
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| 16:35.49 | abrotman | pookey: the 2.6 kernels |
| 16:35.50 | takatumi | pookey: I don't use debian kernels. |
| 16:35.59 | abrotman | well .. not 64GB .. just 4GB |
| 16:36.09 | tarzeau | pookey: and i need yukon new drivers, and new tg3, and scsi raid drivers and more... nvidia, unichrom, ati fglrx |
| 16:36.13 | afabian | Frankablu, /etc/rc.? Debian uses System-V style init... the Debian Reference manual will probably tell you how the scripts are executed. |
| 16:36.15 | pookey | the client apparently triedu pgrading to 2.6 last night, but couldn't get it working. IU don't think he's capable of rolling his own kernel either. |
| 16:36.18 | abrotman | enabling 64G would be a waste for most people |
| 16:36.34 | tarzeau | abrotman: not so, here |
| 16:36.38 | abrotman | if he's your client .. why is he upgrading his own kernel |
| 16:36.46 | pookey | abrotman: it's a colocated server. |
| 16:36.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: yes .. i know .. but in most x86 machines .. enabling 64G would be a mistake |
| 16:36.57 | abrotman | by default anyways |
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| 16:37.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: i agree |
| 16:37.14 | pookey | I think I'm going to have to get him to give me root and do this myself then. |
| 16:37.15 | abrotman | now . for SPARC/MIPS/Alpha .. maybe not |
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| 16:37.31 | iceman | Question, how easy is themes in debian? gnome |
| 16:37.36 | Frankablu | afabian: Well after cron it freezes |
| 16:37.53 | tarzeau | iceman: irc.gnome.org #gnome |
| 16:38.11 | afabian | Frankablu, you can check the system logs... start the system up in single user mode, and then run your initscripts by hand. |
| 16:38.25 | afabian | You'll know when you hit the problem. :x |
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| 16:39.17 | iceman | tarzeau this is a debian question, not gnome specific, how well of a install process does debian include ? |
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| 16:39.38 | takatumi | iceman: try irc.gnome.org #debian-gnome then. |
| 16:39.49 | takatumi | or gnome-debian, I forget |
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| 16:39.59 | tarzeau | iceman: it's not specific to debian. it's like on every system with gnome |
| 16:40.11 | tarzeau | iceman: and gnome is only a little bit of what you get with debian |
| 16:40.22 | valdyn_ | iceman: apt-cache search gtk2-engines.. pick some, install some |
| 16:40.22 | tarzeau | iceman: install process? of what? who cares? |
| 16:40.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: #gnome-debian |
| 16:40.28 | valdyn_ | iceman: apt-cache search gtk2-engines pick some, install some |
| 16:40.38 | iceman | Well, let see, Ubuntu install for themes sucks, why i ask about debain |
| 16:40.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: i don't care. |
| 16:40.44 | tarzeau | abstop telling me things about gnome, that i never asked for |
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| 16:40.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm gonna make you care! |
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| 16:40.54 | abrotman | <tarzeau> iceman: irc.gnome.org #gnome |
| 16:41.01 | abrotman | tarzeau: i was telling you that it's #gnome-debian |
| 16:41.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm going to ignore you. i just wanted to shut him off |
| 16:41.12 | iceman | of course, cant get a streight answer .. |
| 16:41.13 | abrotman | tarzeau: you bastard .. i will eat your dragon! |
| 16:41.25 | tarzeau | tell him, i'll notice it |
| 16:41.31 | takatumi | quick bubbles? |
| 16:41.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'll steal your bubbles. and fruits. and bonus items! |
| 16:41.49 | jbroome | freaks |
| 16:41.55 | tarzeau | takatumi: in an hour? dreamland? |
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| 16:42.13 | sandman | Nothing seems to work out of chroots |
| 16:42.18 | takatumi | tarzeau: should be fine. |
| 16:42.21 | sandman | civclient, namely |
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| 16:42.34 | tarzeau | jbroome: you join? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 16:42.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: you always steal my fruit! |
| 16:42.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: and DIAMONDS, LOL |
| 16:42.57 | papito | im triyng to install a wireless card but i cant. my card is a RTL8180L. can anyone help me? |
| 16:42.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: and you're always the yellow dragon! |
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| 16:43.10 | takatumi | papito: which chipset, which driver? |
| 16:43.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's GOLDEN, not yellow |
| 16:43.29 | papito | the chipset is a rtl8180l |
| 16:43.31 | tarzeau | abrotman: or sunny, but not yellow |
| 16:43.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're a banana |
| 16:43.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: aren't you the pink dragon? |
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| 16:44.04 | abrotman | the best part of BnB .. is that tarzeau always gets the sheep! |
| 16:44.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: usually white/silver |
| 16:44.17 | [aJ] | I'm trying to upgrade libc6 from 2.3.2 to 2.3.5. the package is available at http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.3.5-7_i386.deb but for some reason I can't use apt-get to upgrade do I have to add a unstable apt repos for this to work? |
| 16:44.47 | abrotman | [aJ]: testing has that |
| 16:44.53 | abrotman | !info libc6 testing |
| 16:44.57 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.5-6 (etch), Packaged size: 4815 kB, Installed size: 16356 kB |
| 16:45.22 | abrotman | nevermind that doing what you're doing will probably screw up your box .. but oh well |
| 16:45.52 | [aJ] | abrotman: how so? I'm trying to upgrade Trac which requires an upgrade of libc6 |
| 16:46.08 | abrotman | [aJ]: because other stuff probably depends on a certain version of libc6 |
| 16:46.29 | [aJ] | abrotman: only like 6 other packages |
| 16:46.35 | abrotman | only ... |
| 16:46.58 | [aJ] | abrotman: am I wrong about this? |
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| 16:47.11 | abrotman | [aJ]: i'm not going to stop you |
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| 16:47.56 | [aJ] | abrotman: Well if it's going to break my box I don't want to upgrade. |
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| 16:48.07 | pookey | right, thanks everyone - I'm out of here |
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| 16:48.16 | abrotman | [aJ]: you can certainly upgrade .. but doing it the way you're trying .. probably will come out badly |
| 16:48.31 | guiss | anyone knows what kernel version does the daily unstable netinstall comes with? |
| 16:48.35 | abrotman | !rdepends libc6 |
| 16:48.50 | abrotman | guiss: ask #debian-boot |
| 16:48.53 | [aJ] | !depends libc6 |
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| 16:49.30 | [aJ] | !rdepends libc6 |
| 16:49.31 | abrotman | either dpkg is napping .. |
| 16:49.31 | hebfftijd | is it possible to only change a loginname without losing its file in its home directory |
| 16:49.31 | EmleyMoor | Is apache-common safe to install on a system with apache2? |
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| 16:49.31 | abrotman | yes |
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| 16:49.31 | abrotman | rather .. should be |
| 16:49.31 | [aJ] | abrotman: what would be the safe way to upgrade? |
| 16:49.32 | [aJ] | abrotman: install the packages manually? |
| 16:49.36 | abrotman | [aJ]: probably move the whole box to testing or unstable |
| 16:49.40 | abrotman | [aJ]: is it a server though ? |
| 16:49.44 | [aJ] | abrotman: yes |
| 16:49.55 | abrotman | !tell [aJ] about simple sid backport |
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| 16:50.03 | hebfftijd | is it possible to only change a loginname without losing its file in its home directory |
| 16:50.09 | abrotman | [aJ]: at your own risk of course .. and you will have to monitor security issues |
| 16:50.16 | [aJ] | abrotman: ok |
| 16:50.22 | valdyn_ | hebfftijd: home directories do not get deleted if you change a login name |
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| 16:50.31 | Balu | 'llo everyone |
| 16:50.45 | hebfftijd | valdyn_ how do i manage that |
| 16:50.57 | [aJ] | abrotman: how do I tell what I'm currently using. It's not my box I was just asked to do the upgrade. |
| 16:50.57 | chris_ | enveezee: apt-get still does not find "flashplugin-nonfree". I added "non-free" to my sources.list. I have no idea what's wrong. |
| 16:51.17 | Balu | Just a short question - are the current debian install cds pooched? I'm having problems with the integrity check of Release, Packages |
| 16:51.24 | stew | chris_: its in contrib, not non-free |
| 16:51.45 | chris_ | stew: contrib? Thanks, will look. |
| 16:51.51 | valdyn_ | hebfftijd: man usermod |
| 16:51.52 | stew | chris_: /msg dpkg conrib |
| 16:51.56 | stew | err contrib |
| 16:51.58 | abrotman | [aJ]: look in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:51.59 | hebfftijd | thx valdyn_ |
| 16:52.03 | chris_ | ok |
| 16:52.15 | abrotman | [aJ]: it will either point at stable or sarge probably |
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| 16:52.59 | stew | my bet is unstable |
| 16:53.06 | [aJ] | abrotman: ok thanks, it points to stable. |
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| 16:53.20 | HackerboyZ | Selam.. |
| 16:53.22 | HackerboyZ | hi |
| 16:53.24 | HackerboyZ | :):):):):):):) |
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| 16:53.53 | HackerboyZ | benim dilimden anlayan varmý acaba |
| 16:53.58 | fbi | corned beef hash n eggs == mmm mm good |
| 16:54.09 | fbi | wtf language are you talking, dude |
| 16:54.30 | abrotman | HackerboyZ: what is your native language? |
| 16:54.46 | HackerboyZ | turkish |
| 16:54.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: ! |
| 16:54.56 | stew | !tr |
| 16:54.56 | dpkg | i heard tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 16:55.02 | HackerboyZ | yes sor |
| 16:55.06 | HackerboyZ | :)) |
| 16:55.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: do you actually know any turkish ? |
| 16:55.14 | stew | what happened to that factoid? |
| 16:55.17 | HackerboyZ | sýkýþtýrmayýn beni caným |
| 16:55.17 | [aJ] | abrotman: btw thanks for you help. I really appreciate it. |
| 16:55.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes i know some |
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| 16:55.23 | HackerboyZ | pek bilmem ben ole ingilizce |
| 16:55.30 | stew | hmm, maybe the question is what happened to my locales |
| 16:55.32 | HackerboyZ | No Language English |
| 16:55.38 | HackerboyZ | Yes Language Turkish |
| 16:55.41 | stew | HackerboyZ: /j #debian.tr |
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| 16:56.00 | abrotman | [aJ]: no problem |
| 16:56.07 | HackerboyZ | mersi |
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| 16:56.32 | HackerboyZ | ne var ne yok |
| 16:56.35 | HackerboyZ | hey millet |
| 16:56.41 | HackerboyZ | benim dilimden anlayan |
| 16:56.43 | HackerboyZ | cevaplasýn |
| 16:57.04 | HackerboyZ | thanks |
| 16:57.04 | dimir | Isn't it time for an action? |
| 16:57.07 | stew | HackerboyZ: stop. english only here. for turkish: /join #debian.tr |
| 16:57.21 | dimir | hackeron_: we do not need your turkish lessons. |
| 16:57.26 | dimir | HackerboyZ too |
| 16:57.35 | fbi | lessons? i wasn't learning anything from that |
| 16:57.37 | HackerboyZ | Ok.. |
| 16:58.04 | dimir | OR ELSE! |
| 16:58.05 | dimir | :-P |
| 16:58.09 | thingfish | I plonked him after the row of smileys. |
| 16:58.11 | fbi | good to see mixxx is finally in etch |
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| 16:58.20 | fbi | that shit was being held up by like 400 other packages |
| 16:58.32 | HackerboyZ | Ok.. |
| 16:58.37 | abrotman | fbi: or holding up ? |
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| 16:58.43 | fbi | abrotman: yeah, that |
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| 16:59.17 | fbi | actually, when i checked to see why it didn't move into etch, it said mixxx makes 400 other packages not upgradable? |
| 16:59.22 | fbi | something to that effect |
| 16:59.31 | abrotman | !why is mixxx not in testing |
| 16:59.32 | dpkg | mixxx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=mixxx |
| 16:59.56 | Ungy | ok I got a stupid question when it tells me to purge hotplug and hotplug is no longer installed shoudl I remove /etc/hotpug and /etc/hotplug.d ? |
| 17:00.07 | abrotman | Ungy: dpkg -P hotplug |
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| 17:00.45 | chris_ | stew: that flashplugin thing works, thank you! |
| 17:00.54 | Ungy | abrotman, thanks but that doesn't remove the hotplug files |
| 17:01.01 | [aJ] | !tell [aJ] about sid backport |
| 17:01.07 | abrotman | Ungy: shouldn't matter .. |
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| 17:01.32 | kioto | hi all |
| 17:01.52 | Ungy | abrotman, ok I am nto completely sure as to what hotplug does as compared to udev so I just don't want anything borked |
| 17:02.05 | kioto | what is good way to change permanently an environment $PATH variable ?! |
| 17:02.17 | abrotman | Ungy: doesn't matter .. Md will remove hotplug |
| 17:02.20 | [aJ] | kioto: edit /etc/profile |
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| 17:02.35 | fbi | kioto: for system wide, use /etc/profile, otherwise use ~/.bash_profile |
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| 17:03.14 | kioto | hey fbi ^^ |
| 17:03.24 | fbi | kioto: hi |
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| 17:04.31 | Ungy | abrotman ok well dunno what Md is but I take your word for it ;-) |
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| 17:05.46 | abrotman | !md |
| 17:05.47 | dpkg | i guess md is software raid in Linux. Moldova. Medical Doctor |
| 17:05.51 | abrotman | :) |
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| 17:08.34 | sussudio | spam in 3,2,1... |
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| 17:10.53 | davor | hey, guys |
| 17:10.56 | davor | anyone here? |
| 17:11.03 | sussudio | ... |
| 17:11.08 | beyza | hi |
| 17:11.09 | beyza | ço |
| 17:11.10 | beyza | ki |
| 17:11.13 | beyza | min |
| 17:11.14 | sussudio | here we go |
| 17:11.15 | beyza | kire |
| 17:11.15 | beyza | te |
| 17:11.29 | davor | you guys think you could help me with one thing? im having a small kde-related services problem |
| 17:11.51 | fbi | davor: no one can read your mind, you don't have to ask if it's ok to ask |
| 17:12.15 | TheCount | fbi: what, you can't read minds?!? |
| 17:12.17 | davor | heh, okay. we'll, im going to go on then. |
| 17:12.29 | fbi | TheCount: fortunately, no. |
| 17:12.32 | abrotman | i can read a dog's mind ... |
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| 17:12.38 | fbi | and i don't think i would like that skill. |
| 17:12.40 | dimir | wow, seems it will be a long story.. |
| 17:12.50 | abrotman | "Food , sleep, water , shit/piss, warm spot on the floor, eat your pillow" |
| 17:13.02 | fbi | i can read abrotman's mind, and i see a big greasy grinder |
| 17:13.09 | abrotman | not today |
| 17:13.14 | fbi | lies! |
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| 17:13.21 | abrotman | !cheesesteaksmite fbi |
| 17:13.21 | dimir | !lies |
| 17:13.21 | dpkg | lies are evil, or as some would put it: "There are three types of lies; lies, damned lies, and statistics." |
| 17:13.23 | davor | basically the problem is that ever since i apt-get updated my kde to 3.4, the load window starts and halts at "loading services". so basically kde is broken for me. diffirent kde apps take a VERY long time to load, and some fail to do it at all. |
| 17:13.23 | ChristianP | hi all |
| 17:13.33 | davor | hello ChristianP |
| 17:13.41 | another | I'm on etch, trying to install my 2.6 kernel headers. I can't find the relevant kernel-image-2.6 packages. There are only kernel-image-2.4-.. packages. What package should I install? |
| 17:13.50 | ChristianP | can anyone help me in mounting a windows domain share? |
| 17:13.53 | abrotman | !cheesesteak fbi |
| 17:13.57 | fbi | another: linux-image |
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| 17:14.20 | davor | does anyone have any idea what package i might try to reinstall, to get my "kde services" back? |
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| 17:14.27 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
| 17:14.31 | zinox | how make benchmark of my video card |
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| 17:14.55 | pabs3 | zinox: glxgears |
| 17:15.07 | zinox | bash: glxgears: command not found |
| 17:15.17 | another | fbi: thanks, i think linux-headers has the headers i'm looking for |
| 17:15.19 | ApEtc | Install it |
| 17:15.25 | OENEUS | at perl.. how do i configure @INC variable? |
| 17:15.31 | abrotman | #perl ? |
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| 17:15.39 | fbi | another: no problem |
| 17:15.44 | OENEUS | ok |
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| 17:15.51 | pabs3 | zinox: install xbase-clients |
| 17:16.03 | zinox | ok thanks |
| 17:16.31 | ChristianP | using mount -t smbfs -o username=xxx,password=yyy //mywindows_share /my destination give me this error: 5001: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRinvgroup (Invalid workgroup (try the -W option) but it doesn't work with -W option |
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| 17:17.45 | GNUdist | I did the xserver-Xfree86 to configure in my 21" Multigraph monitor with up to 1800 x 1440 resolution. |
| 17:18.11 | TheCount | don't use smbfs. use cifs. |
| 17:18.15 | GNUdist | No workie... it lists the top resolution as 1024 x 768. |
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| 17:18.45 | fbi | GNUdist: check to see that monitor even supports such a high res. |
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| 17:18.56 | fbi | that's an old monitor, yes? |
| 17:19.03 | fbi | i think that was one if the first 21 inchers |
| 17:19.12 | GNUdist | So, I then tried the NEXT choice, as listed on the Knoppix wiki (this is a Deb UPGRADE from Knoppix 4.0.2 |
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| 17:19.43 | GNUdist | Yep, 1997, BUT, it runs GREAT! and was only $5 at the garage sale... |
| 17:19.45 | GNUdist | ! |
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| 17:19.54 | smagy2 | hello folks can some one help me with problem of ffmpeg unable to load a lib even though it is there. http://rafb.net/paste/results/Lf8PSz66.html |
| 17:19.55 | Mardus | Hi. |
| 17:19.55 | codin | /usr/X11R6/includ/X11/Intrinsic.h what is the packet containing this file ? |
| 17:20.00 | fbi | yeah, you better check to see what that monitor's native res, is |
| 17:20.02 | fbi | Google it |
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| 17:20.09 | Mardus | Does dpkg have any information on how to setup printers in woody? |
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| 17:20.24 | GNUdist | I then did the That IS the native res!!! 1900 x 1440! |
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| 17:20.49 | kryglik | hello all good folks ... one little question -- am I able to make a list of files being downloaded by aptitude upgrade ? like emerge -pf .... in gentoo |
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| 17:20.51 | Morydd | is there a known reason that after upgrading to 2.6.12 starting X.org would totally lock my machine? |
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| 17:21.04 | GNUdist | So, I then went and did xfconfig, but, though the file took, no joy in the running! |
| 17:21.05 | dsfsd | italiani? |
| 17:21.06 | fbi | Morydd: opengl apps? or all the time |
| 17:21.22 | Morydd | as soon I as issue startx |
| 17:21.32 | thingfish | dsfsd: in #debian-it |
| 17:21.34 | fbi | Morydd: do you have a force a reboot? |
| 17:21.35 | Gnea | okay |
| 17:21.46 | dsfsd | italian? |
| 17:21.49 | Morydd | every time. I have to power down with the switch. |
| 17:21.50 | Gnea | it's time for suse to die a nasty, horrible death. |
| 17:21.51 | dsfsd | help desk for me..? |
| 17:21.53 | thingfish | !it |
| 17:21.54 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 17:21.57 | codin | anyone with X11/Intrinsic.h ? |
| 17:22.17 | fbi | Morydd: set up serial console, file a bug or tell gravity about it when he's about |
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| 17:22.34 | dsfsd | for mount one hd lacie usb ?what command? mount dev/****??? |
| 17:22.38 | GNUdist | fbi: U ever run a large Monitor? |
| 17:22.54 | fbi | GNUdist: nothing larger than 19" as far as lcds |
| 17:22.55 | Morydd | fbi: can you explain "set up serial console" for me, or point me to info? |
| 17:23.15 | fbi | one sec |
| 17:23.17 | takatumi | kryglik: /var/log/aptitude may have what you want. |
| 17:23.19 | GNUdist | Not an LCD, it is a 21" NOKIA Xpro 445 |
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| 17:23.39 | valdyn_ | kryglik: aptitude -s upgrade |
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| 17:24.19 | NOthsouth | hwllo, how can I add more system languages on my debian ? |
| 17:24.20 | NOthsouth | sarge |
| 17:24.42 | fbi | Morydd: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/ |
| 17:24.47 | kryglik | takatumi, thanx ... but i need more like ftp://xxxx/file.deb list ... is it possible? i want to download debs elsewhere :) |
| 17:24.53 | GNUdist | Gnea: Why? (hehe, I have every Suse here, and don't run anything but Debian based distros...) |
| 17:24.58 | TheCount | NOthsouth: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 17:25.31 | valdyn_ | kryglik: you want to download the debs on a different computer? or just use a different repository? |
| 17:25.38 | dsfsd | tu sei di firenze? |
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| 17:25.48 | dsfsd | o che tu mi dici bischero? |
| 17:25.51 | fbi | !it |
| 17:25.51 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 17:25.57 | dsfsd | la torta coi bischeri? |
| 17:26.00 | blaamann | I need some advice. I installed OpenOffice2 to my Debian Etch system using the instructions on this site, http://guide.debianizzati.org/index.php/Installare_OpenOffice2_su_Debian_Etch I don't read itallian, but still it is easy to see what they mean, but how wise/stupied was this to do ? How well does the Pin-Priority work ? |
| 17:26.00 | kryglik | valdyn_, just different computer ... |
| 17:26.07 | kryglik | valdyn_, with faster connection :) |
| 17:26.08 | Mardus | How to set up a printer in woody? |
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| 17:26.09 | valdyn_ | kryglik: apt-cache show apt-zip |
| 17:26.21 | NOthsouth | TheCount, thx dude |
| 17:26.38 | GNUdist | It's lunch, so will be back after a couple hours... Yeah, you'll all be around... |
| 17:26.45 | Morydd | fbi: it locks to the point that it no longer responds to the network. |
| 17:27.05 | kryglik | valdyn_, ok i see a filename there ... so i can parse aptitude upgrade with that ... or is there any better solution ? |
| 17:27.12 | fbi | Morydd: if you have a serial cable attached to another box, you'll be able to see what is happening |
| 17:27.26 | valdyn_ | kryglik: no, just use apt-zip |
| 17:27.35 | fbi | then you can either file a bug, or tell gravity |
| 17:27.51 | Morydd | ah... to see the messages? Makes sense. Thanks. |
| 17:27.56 | fbi | exactly |
| 17:28.06 | Morydd | a little slow today. |
| 17:28.07 | smagy2 | hi can some one please help me with problem i have this error fmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, but lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Nov 7 11:54 /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 -> libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 is there and -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 358340 Nov 7 11:54 /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 is also there |
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| 17:28.24 | fbi | etch was doing that to me, only when running opengl apps though |
| 17:28.32 | syntaxis | smagy2: paste error messages in #flood, not here |
| 17:28.37 | fbi | i had to power down at the power supply as the power button became useless |
| 17:28.54 | kryglik | valdyn_, oh :) got it! thanks a lot |
| 17:29.10 | blaamann | smagy2: ldconfig perhaps ? |
| 17:29.18 | WoodsDog | i'm trying to get system trays icons to work...I enabled notification area to my panel in gnome...but now when i try to dock gaim, it creates it's own tiny floating icon..i don't think it's sending it to the sys tray like it should...any suggestions? |
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| 17:29.37 | smagy2 | blaamann: err meaning, i am a novice |
| 17:30.25 | smagy2 | blaamann: would i just need to run ldconfig ? |
| 17:30.33 | hid3 | Evening everyone. I run quite large mailserver, it has two disks: main and backup one. Main disk has got such structure: / 2000 MB partition and /data, the rest of space. /home and /var are symlinks to /data/home and /data/var. Question: what command should I use to copy info from one disk to another so if the 1st disk dies, I can boot from the backup one withou any problems? |
| 17:30.53 | smagy2 | blaamann: it worked thanks |
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| 17:31.12 | blaamann | smagy2: It did ? |
| 17:31.15 | hid3 | I used cp -aux / /backup1 and cp -aux /data /backup2, however, when booting from backup disk, it hangs on syslogd (it can't find /var/ partition or something like that) |
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| 17:31.52 | blaamann | smagy2: What is the content of your /etc/ld.so.conf file ? |
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| 17:33.11 | smagy2 | blaaman: /usr/local/lib /usr/X11R6/lib |
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| 17:33.41 | smagy2 | blamman: yes it did. i ran a strace on ffmpeg and it was looking for libs in /usr/lib and not in /usr/local/lib |
| 17:33.49 | smagy2 | so i guess running ldconfig updated the lib path |
| 17:33.52 | blaamann | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.18 | smagy2 | it works now , thanks a bunch ! :) |
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| 17:36.08 | penguin__ | Is there chat for postgresql? |
| 17:36.41 | another | penguin__: #postgresql ? |
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| 17:36.47 | DarKnesS_WolF | penguin__: ? j#postgresql ? |
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| 17:49.38 | Miesco | In K3B, if I close the project view, then go to settings>show project view, the project view shows, but in a seperate dialog window, how do I get the project window to be like it was? |
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| 17:50.09 | eze | daxStryFe you're around dude ? |
| 17:50.27 | Miesco | Is there a config file for k3b? |
| 17:50.30 | asg | Miesco: #debian-kde might know |
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| 17:50.57 | happy_br1ccoli | anyone know how to get full ftp logs from vsftpd |
| 17:51.02 | pabs3 | Miesco: look under ~/.kde |
| 17:51.25 | Gnea | !anyone |
| 17:51.25 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:51.31 | mtnman | miesco: the manpage will probably list all config files. |
| 17:51.41 | Gnea | happy_br1ccoli: i imagine the manpage details that method. |
| 17:52.02 | happy_br1ccoli | Gnea: i imagine you imagine too much |
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| 17:52.23 | Gnea | happy_br1ccoli: your propensity toward hostility is disturbing. |
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| 17:53.26 | penguin__ | Whenever I open root terminal with Xchat open, Gnome freezes |
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| 17:53.38 | penguin__ | Anybody else have that problem? |
| 17:53.42 | Miesco | mtnman: No it doesn't |
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| 17:53.49 | penguin__ | I am using testing. |
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| 17:54.00 | mtnman | miesco: /usr/share/doc/k3b |
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| 17:55.08 | hcy | hi, i'm trying to install a new printer in cups. I opened my browser and went to localhost:631, and the cups thing came on. I clicked on add a printer. a popup asked for my username and password -- i gave it root. It asked for the printer's name location and description. I filled that in and pressed continue. Then it goes to a screen labeled 'device' with a dropdown list for me to choose a device on, only not a single device is listed there. |
| 17:55.08 | hcy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.19 | DarKnesS_WolF | what shall i do if i don't want to use kde applications and i want to burn dvds ? |
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| 17:55.41 | Gnea | hcy: utilize footmatic-gui to install the printer |
| 17:56.03 | Zitter2 | hi, I have a prb with readline-common on my sid http://pastebin.com/420763 |
| 17:56.03 | Gnea | DarKnesS_WolF: use the command line |
| 17:56.14 | Zitter2 | also if I try to using -f, it's the same |
| 17:56.22 | hcy | Gnea: ok, i'll have to install that. does that work with cups or should i remove cups? |
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| 17:56.42 | asg | Zitter2: and you tried 'apt-get -f install' ? |
| 17:56.52 | Gnea | Zitter2: apt-get -f install |
| 17:56.52 | Zitter2 | asg, yes, it doesn't work |
| 17:57.04 | Zitter2 | yes, i've tried that too |
| 17:57.05 | Gnea | Zitter2: try to remove the package in question |
| 17:57.13 | Zitter2 | tried too :) |
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| 17:57.19 | Gnea | hcy: it works with cups |
| 17:57.21 | asg | Zitter2: then you'll have to wait for sid to either get the dependancy or install the previous version |
| 17:57.24 | DarKnesS_WolF | Gnea: which is ? |
| 17:57.27 | asg | Zitter2: check the bts for more info |
| 17:57.33 | Gnea | DarKnesS_WolF: /bin/bash |
| 17:57.34 | hcy | Gnea: ok i'm apt-getting it |
| 17:57.35 | DarKnesS_WolF | Gnea: even cdrecord -scanbus don't detect nothing. |
| 17:57.48 | Zitter2 | asg, sorry what's bts? |
| 17:58.01 | asg | Zitter2: /msg dpkg bts ; /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 17:58.02 | Gnea | DarKnesS_WolF: it's an ide drive, right? -scanbus only detects scsi, so you probably haven't read the cd burning howto at www.tldp.org |
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| 17:58.09 | Zitter2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.16 | Zitter2 | ops sorry |
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| 17:58.23 | DarKnesS_WolF | Gnea: okay thx ;) |
| 17:58.40 | Gnea | np |
| 17:58.45 | Lee__ | how do I free up a loopback device after unmounting it? lsof still shows it has open files in /proc |
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| 17:59.04 | Gnea | Lee__: losetup -d /dev/loopX |
| 17:59.22 | eiojf | HI I need to install Linux on this Dell but the NTFS partition is taking up all of the space. How do I fix this? I have the netinst for Sarge i386, can I run ntfsresize from this? :) |
| 17:59.25 | r3tex | what would i script to make a shellscript that can click on a button on a webpage |
| 17:59.40 | Gnea | eiojf: you can, but you should backup what's on there first |
| 18:00.02 | eiojf | Well it's brand new so there's barely anything on it. How do I use ntfsresize? |
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| 18:00.05 | Gnea | r3tex: blasphemy! |
| 18:00.22 | Gnea | eiojf: there's a manpage... www.tldp.org might know too |
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| 18:00.50 | Miesco | How do I use cdrecord to burn something to a cd, cdrecord /dev/hdc /home/shawn/music /home/shawn/moremusic |
| 18:00.51 | eiojf | it's on the netinst cd? I can run it without using a Live CD, right? |
| 18:00.52 | Miesco | Like that? |
| 18:01.03 | r3tex | Gnea: =P my friend is asking for some "haxxor" advice. He wants to apply for some WoW tournament, and asked me to make him a script |
| 18:01.05 | Gnea | Miesco: man cdrecord |
| 18:01.10 | asg | Miesco: read the cd-recording howto at tldp.org |
| 18:01.10 | Miesco | Gnea: I did |
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| 18:01.19 | Miesco | asg: Okay |
| 18:01.25 | DarKnesS_WolF | Gnea: u mean cd-writing how to ? or there is another docs? |
| 18:01.28 | Gnea | r3tex: your 'friend' is an idiot and will be caught and prosecuted if he proceeds in that fashion. |
| 18:01.34 | w3rdn4 | how do I open http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/audio/play.php?aid=3&book=50&chapter=1 in linux? |
| 18:01.36 | asg | Miesco: or CD-Writing HOWTO (that's what it's called iirc) |
| 18:01.55 | Lee__ | Gnea, thanks |
| 18:02.14 | r3tex | Gnea: not here in Sweden |
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| 18:02.31 | r3tex | Gnea: since when is it illegal to use a script to check a website a few times a day? |
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| 18:02.46 | hcy | Gnea: it ALMOST worked... it tried... but the terminal shows "lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible" and the printer is configured with "Device URI: file:/dev/null" |
| 18:03.10 | eiojf | it's on the netinst cd? I can run it without using a Live CD, right? |
| 18:03.12 | hackeron_ | dimir: excuse me? |
| 18:03.22 | Gnea | hcy: i would remove all printers from the configuration - you may need to install some other foomatic-* packages as well |
| 18:04.06 | Gnea | r3tex: international boundaries do not effect WoW prosecutors. |
| 18:04.06 | hcy | Gnea: apt-get got me a whole bunch of foomatic packages with it. and there are no other printers currently installed. |
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| 18:04.36 | Gnea | hcy: what printer is it? |
| 18:04.36 | hcy | Gnea: i got the same error 'client error not possible' trying to use the cups installation wizard that came with the printer |
| 18:04.56 | hcy | Gnea: it's a xerox phaser 3116, came with a cd with cups ppd driver |
| 18:05.12 | hcy | Gnea: but i don't think it has to do with the printer -- the device isn't even recognized |
| 18:05.21 | samuel | in /etc/network/interfaces how can i define an interface i only want brought up when i use the ifup command? allow-ifup ? or something like that? instead of auto? |
| 18:05.36 | r3tex | Gnea: 1 - It's not illegal 2 - The prosecutors have to work within the boundaries of the countries legal system. Therefore, no prosecution here... |
| 18:06.09 | r3tex | I don't think the officials in North Korea will cooperate with WoW people in the US if you catch my drift ;P |
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| 18:06.34 | sward | samuel: Don't specify the interface in an 'auto' line. You should still be able to manually ifup $interface |
| 18:07.40 | dimir | hackeron_: auto-complete error!!!! :-P |
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| 18:08.30 | hcy | Gnea: this is the first time i'm using a usb printer, though i use other usb devices successfully... is there a mod that needs to be modprobed specifically for usb printers? |
| 18:08.38 | samuel | sward, so just ommit the outo line? thanks! |
| 18:08.45 | sward | aye |
| 18:08.52 | Gnea | hcy: what kernel? |
| 18:09.16 | Gnea | hcy: oh, a phaser - so it's got a network socket? |
| 18:09.45 | hcy | Gnea: no, usb |
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| 18:10.12 | macsim | I want to use udev, the documentation found here http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html says I need hotplug for use it, but when I try to install hotplug, apt says it needs to remove hal udev. Who can I fix it ? |
| 18:10.12 | Gnea | oic |
| 18:10.19 | hcy | Gnea: no network socket, just usb |
| 18:10.40 | Gnea | hcy: you'll need the ppd for it then from the website |
| 18:10.46 | hcy | i keep getting "lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible. Could not set up/change the queue "phaser_3116"!" |
| 18:10.47 | pabs3 | macsim: are you running testing/etch or unstable/sid? |
| 18:10.53 | Gnea | hcy: if it's not on the cd (website might have a newer one) |
| 18:10.54 | macsim | pabs3: yes sid |
| 18:11.03 | Gnea | hcy: and make sure your user is in the lp group |
| 18:11.06 | hcy | Gnea: the cd came with a ppd for this exact module |
| 18:11.17 | Gnea | hcy: what's the timestamp on it? |
| 18:11.17 | hcy | Gnea: so far i've just been doing it as root |
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| 18:11.29 | pabs3 | macsim: versions of udev in sid replace the functionality in hotplug (and coldplug) |
| 18:11.47 | hcy | Gnea: on the ppd file? Jul 12 2004 |
| 18:11.49 | pabs3 | macsim: therefore you don't need hotplug any more, just udev |
| 18:11.55 | macsim | pabs3 may I talk a bit with you in private ? |
| 18:12.29 | hcy | Gnea: but does this error sound like a ppd problem? |
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| 18:13.43 | Gnea | hcy: http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/xerox-list/2005q1/000402.html |
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| 18:16.04 | hcy | Gnea: yes i actually saw that yesterday. but he says "I've no errors during the installation"... I haven't been that lucky |
| 18:16.26 | hcy | Gnea: but anyway, where can i find a driver for a samsung? i looked through linuxprinting and didn't find it |
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| 18:17.03 | andy_br | msg Nick_Hill hello |
| 18:17.49 | hcy | msg andy_br you forgot the / |
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| 18:18.03 | kalve | I installed debian, apache2, mysql-server, mysql-client, libapache2-php4 and phpmyadmin, and using mysql-client works just fine - but I can't log in using phpymadmin I just get error "#1045 - Access denied for user: 'www-data@localhost' (Using password: YES)" |
| 18:18.10 | kalve | i'm using MySQL version 4.0.24_Debian-10sarge1-log and phpMyAdmin 2.6.2-Debian-3sarge1 |
| 18:18.13 | kalve | any ideas? |
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| 18:18.49 | asg | kalve: www-data@localhost doesn't have the correct credentials for mysql |
| 18:19.13 | kalve | asg: i'm logging in as 'thomas' |
| 18:19.25 | kalve | asg: not as 'www-data' |
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| 18:19.36 | elirips | hello people. i try to print on my hp laserjet1200 connected via usb, using cups. base-system is a debian sarge. if i print a pfd from within kpdf, the printer only prints the first 3 pages, then the led at the printer wont stop blinking, but nothing else happens. it's quite annoying.. what goes wrong? |
| 18:19.41 | asg | kalve: yes but the error is 'www-data@localhost' |
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| 18:19.46 | kalve | asg: i know |
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| 18:20.44 | omry | all the sudden (maybe after an update), thunderbird does not respond to the enter key while editing email. did anyone encounter it? |
| 18:21.01 | elirips | hm, not it has printed the page. is it normal that it takes up to 5 minutes to send one (!) page of a pdf file to the printer?? |
| 18:21.03 | asg | !tell omry about smart questions |
| 18:21.07 | asg | !tell omry about bts |
| 18:21.12 | elirips | sorry, i mean "now" it has printed |
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| 18:21.30 | hcy | Gnea: I got the samsung driver and tried using that (through foomatic-gui) and still got "client-error-not-possible" and "could not set up/change the queue" |
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| 18:21.53 | omry | asg, despite what you may think, anyone is still a valid word. |
| 18:22.02 | cahoot | elirips: the error log is of no help? |
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| 18:22.10 | hcy | Gnea: it somehow isn't connecting to the usb port |
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| 18:22.43 | Khiraly | er |
| 18:22.44 | another | kalve: did you configure phpmyadmin? Maybe you need to edit the config.inc.php file? |
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| 18:23.35 | elirips | cahoot: no, in /var/log/cups/error-log i only see the "normal" things, like "added banner none, job xx queued, started filter, started backend", etc. |
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| 18:23.39 | Khiraly | I plug in my usb pen, and the /dev/sda device are not created. In dmesg I see, that usb-storage: device scan complete. Any ideas? |
| 18:23.55 | andy_br | I am using etch with xorg, but my monitor will not go into standby. It did with Sarge, has anyone else had a similar problem? |
| 18:23.57 | Khiraly | It worked yesterday ... I cant find any error |
| 18:24.21 | hcy | Gnea: you don't think i need to log into gnome as root for it to work, do i? |
| 18:24.55 | Nick_Hill | andy_br, Does xset work? |
| 18:26.01 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: xset dpms force standby has no effect |
| 18:26.26 | Gnea | hcy: sorry, had to afk - i'd hit up google |
| 18:26.26 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: it works ok in sarge but not etch |
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| 18:27.34 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: is it the xorg setting or another driver that is not loaded? |
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| 18:28.26 | kalve | got it working now.. changed from auth_type config to cookie |
| 18:28.41 | Nick_Hill | andy_br, Do you have the "option dpms" int he monitor section of xorg.conf? |
| 18:28.52 | Nick_Hill | andy_br, or !option" "dpms" |
| 18:29.23 | Nick_Hill | s/!/"/ |
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| 18:29.54 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: yes I do have Option "DPMS" in section "Monitor" |
| 18:30.19 | tarzeau | takatumi, abrotman. BUBBLE? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 18:30.20 | SEJeff_work | I ran set -x to do some debugging on one of my systems and would like to turn it off without closing the shell |
| 18:30.47 | abrotman | tarzeau: workie! |
| 18:31.05 | SEJeff_work | Does anyone know how to do that? |
| 18:31.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: too much work and no play... |
| 18:31.15 | linux_manju | thoughtbomb : no wonder u don know how to use *nix |
| 18:31.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: don't tell me .. tell my bosses :) |
| 18:31.19 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:31.19 | Nick_Hill | I haven't got etch running here, so can someone who has xorg and etch try xset dpms force standby. |
| 18:31.19 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 18:31.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: what's their email address? |
| 18:31.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: erm .. no :) |
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| 18:31.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: maybe they join us play? |
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| 18:32.02 | abrotman | tarzeau: doubtful |
| 18:32.04 | enveezee | !qotd139 |
| 18:32.05 | dpkg | [qotd139] <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
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| 18:32.17 | abrotman | !flw |
| 18:32.17 | dpkg | i heard flw6 is <coredmp> umm...latest is always bettter when it comes to functionality |
| 18:32.36 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 18:32.36 | dpkg | <felix_187> abrotman: presuming everything worked correctly, how could i get my wireless working? |
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| 18:33.43 | Khiraly | any hint? |
| 18:33.45 | abrotman | enveezee: did you like that news article ? |
| 18:33.55 | abrotman | !usb-storage |
| 18:33.55 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 18:34.02 | enveezee | abrotman: what are you talking about? |
| 18:34.22 | abrotman | enveezee: i sent you a link for a news item |
| 18:34.37 | enveezee | abrotman: in the past 2 hours? |
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| 18:34.50 | abrotman | enveezee: yesterday! |
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| 18:35.25 | abrotman | enveezee: http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2005/11/03/man_sues_ex_girlfriend_over_glue_attack/ |
| 18:35.28 | Khiraly | abrotman: thx |
| 18:35.44 | asg | abrotman: does it indicate what she wrote on his back with nail polish? |
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| 18:36.42 | Gnea | hcy: erk - ok what kernel is it again? and is udev running? |
| 18:36.48 | Nick_Hill | andy_br, Maybe the dpms problem is down to a broken graphics driver in xorg. Are you using vesa, or the proper driver? |
| 18:36.53 | abrotman | asg: not that i've seen |
| 18:37.02 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: vesa |
| 18:37.30 | shad0wcat | another bug in X? |
| 18:37.34 | asg | abrotman: damn |
| 18:37.39 | Nick_Hill | andy_br, do lspci to find out what graphics chip set you are using, then put the proper driver into xorg.conf |
| 18:38.00 | shad0wcat | you know |
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| 18:38.18 | iLLf8d | lo all, can anyone whose got an intel gma 900 laptops vid chip tell me how the drivers work in linux (any 3d yet)? |
| 18:38.31 | shad0wcat | i915 I believe |
| 18:38.34 | abrotman | asg: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/5242347/detail.html |
| 18:39.45 | asg | abrotman: gotta love people |
| 18:39.45 | iLLf8d | shad0wcat: yeah I think so, I've been finding alot of complaints in my google searches tho most of the threads are a few months old |
| 18:39.45 | enveezee | abrotman: gah, f'in yinzers |
| 18:40.06 | abrotman | asg: tbh .. i'm trying to imagine walking .. balls glued to legs .. penis glue to stomach .. |
| 18:40.22 | asg | abrotman: and thumbing a lift no less. |
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| 18:40.57 | enveezee | !yinzersmite Kenneth Slaby |
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| 18:41.02 | shad0wcat | iLLf8d: they've upgraded XOrg 12031237 times in the past week alone |
| 18:41.03 | abrotman | and of course .. how did she get into his pants ? |
| 18:41.14 | asg | abrotman: presumably, he didn't have them on at the time |
| 18:41.44 | abrotman | "O'Toole's attorney said this was part of routine sexual activity between the couple -- acts that he agreed to -- incidents that should have stayed in the bedroom." |
| 18:41.49 | abrotman | nope .. sorry .. just wrong |
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| 18:42.12 | asg | abrotman: tasty |
| 18:42.20 | beleys | POY |
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| 18:42.27 | abrotman | ok .. enough of that |
| 18:42.40 | iLLf8d | shad0wcat: yeah I was hoping with the almost 800 ppls in here I'd hit someone actively using it |
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| 18:42.57 | enveezee | ~ppl |
| 18:42.58 | apt | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.] |
| 18:43.03 | encarnif | hello |
| 18:43.23 | Khiraly | bye |
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| 18:43.59 | asg | was that the non-amazing Kreskin? |
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| 18:45.35 | hcy | Gnea: i'm not finding anything... if i do 'echo hello > /dev/usb/lp0', though, the printer light flashes, the printer makes some noise (rolls the rollers) for a few seconds, but nothing comes out |
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| 18:45.56 | enveezee | o_O |
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| 18:48.14 | asg | enveezee: avian spliff? |
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| 18:48.45 | asg | andy_b: figure it out or piss off |
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| 18:51.33 | enveezee | asg: little one |
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| 18:53.09 | fbi | yay for full screen putty |
| 18:53.19 | fbi | i can't believe win98 doesn't come with a ssh client |
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| 18:53.32 | vortek | Any one know how to add book marks to xmms ? Ican't seem to find a method,, If not does debian package another good mp3 player that supports bookmarks ? |
| 18:53.36 | bvs | i can't belive people still run win98 |
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| 18:53.40 | asg | fbi: that would make it useful which, by definition, it isn't |
| 18:53.43 | fbi | bvs: this is an old ass laptop |
| 18:53.49 | fbi | asg: word. |
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| 18:54.22 | mmealling | I'm installing postfix with sasl and I can't find any of the debian packages that contains pwcheck. Has it been deprecated or something? |
| 18:54.28 | dylanre | Is there a PPC specific debian channel? |
| 18:54.32 | fbi | vortek: you mean you want to keep the stream urls? |
| 18:54.34 | asg | mmealling: /msg dpkg search |
| 18:54.36 | abrotman | andy_br: are you being annoying on purpose ? |
| 18:54.36 | fbi | xmms already does that |
| 18:54.37 | bbrazil | bvs: there are still a few of us ;) |
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| 18:55.22 | asg | mmealling: also, /usr/share/doc/<pkg>/README.Debian{.gz} |
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| 18:55.26 | vortek | fbi: yes |
| 18:55.28 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: I managed to get the screen blanking working in etch by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg by selecting the correct driver and not vesa |
| 18:55.33 | vortek | fbi: I cant seem to figure out it |
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| 18:55.45 | fbi | vortek: when you pull down the 'Play location' field, it keeps all urls cached |
| 18:55.46 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: Thanks for your help |
| 18:55.57 | Nick_Hill | andy_br, What is your graphics card which wouldn't give screen blankign with vesa? |
| 18:56.04 | Nick_Hill | andy_br, np |
| 18:56.12 | OldakQuill | Hey, I've set up apt to get testing. However, something I want to download doesn't have a version in testing - how can I get this one application from the stable? |
| 18:56.41 | andy_br | Nick_Hill: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC 215IIC [Mach64 GT IIC] (rev 3a) |
| 18:57.05 | thingfish | OldakQuill: packages.debian.org maybe |
| 18:57.11 | asg | OldakQuill: install it from stable (hint add stable sources) |
| 18:57.32 | vortek | fbi: not for me :P |
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| 18:58.07 | fbi | vortek: it should, unless you removed your ~/.xmms directory |
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| 18:58.21 | OldakQuill | So have both stable and testing sources? |
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| 18:58.48 | asg | OldakQuill: sure, if the system is all testing, adding stable sources for the one package will not be a problem. |
| 18:58.56 | abrotman | asg: i can't believe you had to give a hint! |
| 18:59.03 | Nick_Hill | abrotman, andy_br is a n00b to IRC and has been trying to sort out the nickserv authentication |
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| 18:59.14 | asg | abrotman: pre-emptive strike |
| 18:59.24 | rikva | Hi, when I use SSL with Apache2, using the ssl module and "SSLEngine on", ssl works fine but then my server only accepts HTTPS requests... Any idea how to fix this? |
| 18:59.25 | abrotman | Nick_Hill: ah .. ok .. but he doesn't have to join the channel to do that :) |
| 18:59.35 | Lee__ | where would look to find a program that can automaticaly perform an action upon inserting removable media? specificly, mount and run a script when a USB key is inserted. |
| 18:59.38 | OldakQuill | If I leave it there will it always prioritise testing? |
| 18:59.44 | asg | rikva: configure port 80 also |
| 19:00.01 | asg | OldakQuill: yes |
| 19:00.01 | rikva | asg: how can I do that? |
| 19:00.25 | asg | rikva: it should already be configured (/etc/apache2/ports.conf) |
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| 19:00.38 | asg | rikva: if this was done in a virtual host, make sure the virtual host also has a setting for 80 as well as 443 |
| 19:00.49 | vortek | fbi: hrm let me check :) |
| 19:00.57 | AtApi | Hi |
| 19:00.58 | rikva | asg: ports.conf says: lissen on 80 and 443. |
| 19:01.09 | rikva | asg: I'm going to try that. |
| 19:01.11 | asg | rikva: what does netstat -ntl say? is port 80 listening? |
| 19:01.17 | AtApi | i have a problem,can someone please help me? |
| 19:01.26 | asg | !tell AtApi about ask |
| 19:01.37 | Ronin | AtApi: we cant help till you tell us the problem |
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| 19:02.14 | rikva | asg: yes it does listen on 80 and 443 |
| 19:02.45 | AtApi | Hi i have a problem: I have installed Debian sarge on my laptop ( IBM ThinkPad a31) my kernel is 2.6.8-2-686, lspci | grep audio giveme this: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC97 Audio Controller (rev 02), |
| 19:02.49 | asg | rikva: what happens when you connect to port 80. |
| 19:02.54 | AtApi | im using GNOME and i have problem with the sound: when i load GNOME i can hear the system sound but no multimedia sound like mp3 or avi etc.. |
| 19:03.01 | AtApi | ve tryed to install ALSA driver and when i launch the command alsaconf he configure the sound card and i can hear the multimedia but no system sound. |
| 19:03.06 | AtApi | when i reboot everythings turn back like no alsa was istalled...can someone help me please? |
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| 19:03.20 | rikva | asg: 400 bad request. speaking plain http to https server. |
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| 19:03.41 | abrotman | asg: you did what ? |
| 19:03.53 | asg | rikva: oh, then you probably have _default_* virtual host with SSL On |
| 19:03.55 | Petaris | I'm having an issue with SetEnv in the apache debian package |
| 19:03.58 | fbi | ehm. how do you install 'ALSA driver' when the 2.6 kernel ships with alsa drivers |
| 19:04.06 | asg | rikva: setup one for 443 with SSL and one for 80 without. |
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| 19:04.10 | rikva | asg: that is correct |
| 19:04.13 | AtApi | with apt-get |
| 19:04.13 | vortek | bbl |
| 19:04.17 | hkais | hello |
| 19:04.20 | Petaris | It keeps saying invalid command |
| 19:04.28 | rikva | asg: can i do that in the default file, or should i create a copy of that? |
| 19:04.31 | asg | Petaris: make sure mod_env is configured |
| 19:04.36 | asg | rikva: you can do either |
| 19:04.43 | vortek | I have to reinstall wintendo on some of the other partitions and other computers because Other peoplpe in the house got nasty worms that hijacked all the system commands in xp |
| 19:04.44 | vortek | lol |
| 19:04.45 | hkais | maybe here is someone wh could help. |
| 19:04.46 | hkais | i have a chroot but i cannot access my /dev/pts/* |
| 19:04.48 | hkais | any hints? |
| 19:04.49 | rikva | asg: ok, going to try. thanks. |
| 19:04.54 | hkais | i need it for screen |
| 19:04.56 | asg | rikva: you're welcome |
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| 19:05.14 | Petaris | asg: mod_setenvif.so is loaded |
| 19:05.55 | asg | Petaris: and you restarted apache after configuring it? |
| 19:05.55 | AtApi | can someone with a little patience query me? please |
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| 19:06.12 | Petaris | asg: it was in there by default |
| 19:06.14 | abrotman | AtApi: ask in the channel |
| 19:06.23 | Petaris | and yess I restarted several times |
| 19:06.42 | AtApi | i asked but seems everybody is busy..right now |
| 19:07.03 | hebfftijd | is there another option then using bind for dns |
| 19:07.05 | Ronin | patience AtApi |
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| 19:07.25 | asg | hebfftijd: /etc/hosts |
| 19:07.32 | asg | hebfftijd: or djbdns |
| 19:07.33 | fbi | AtApi: you didn't even make sense, which is why no one answered. how can you install alsa drivers when you are running a kernel that already has them? |
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| 19:08.15 | Gnea | !ask |
| 19:08.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 19:08.19 | asg | Petaris: well, that should work just fine. In what container are you using SetEnv? |
| 19:08.19 | AtApi | so why sound dont work propely? |
| 19:08.40 | fbi | !tell AtApi about it |
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| 19:08.55 | doug_ | I just deleted all my pr0n .. 15 gigs worth |
| 19:09.03 | doug_ | in an effort to better myself |
| 19:09.08 | doug_ | and i just wanted to share that with you all |
| 19:09.15 | enveezee | heh |
| 19:09.16 | Petaris | asg: inside <Directory> |
| 19:09.16 | AtApi | thanx fbi |
| 19:09.24 | fbi | no problem |
| 19:09.31 | doug_ | 15 gigs damnit! |
| 19:09.40 | abrotman | doug_: was it on debian ? |
| 19:09.59 | doug_ | it was accessible on my debian box... |
| 19:09.59 | fbi | why do people even bother downloading porn, when there are six million porn sites |
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| 19:10.15 | fbi | do you really need to wank to the same porn over and over? |
| 19:10.17 | Petaris | asg: http://phpfi.com/85876 |
| 19:10.17 | abrotman | fbi: what if your intarweb is down!?!? |
| 19:10.20 | enveezee | booble.com |
| 19:10.21 | fbi | haha |
| 19:10.29 | asg | Petaris: hmm odd. Maybe #apache knows if there is some issue with it being in <Directory> containers. |
| 19:10.29 | |dennis| | abrotman: remeemebr me. well ehre is what i managed to get from the kern.log. this happenes just before the system freezes.. anyone any help?? http://200.32.215.82/boot.log |
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| 19:11.00 | Petaris | asg: ok thanks |
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| 19:11.06 | doug_ | fbi, i had more pr0n than i can remember.. but i guess i developed a pavlovian attachment to certain videos. Hard to explain. But I need to get on the wagon |
| 19:11.26 | abrotman | really .. don't .. care |
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| 19:11.35 | doug_ | ok i'm done |
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| 19:11.49 | abrotman | |dennis|: looking |
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| 19:12.18 | abrotman | |dennis|: did you try a different kernel ? |
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| 19:12.46 | mymayer | i have a debian samba server runing and trying to "mount" some share in the WinXP OS for using them as "extern HDDS". On this share are programms, i wnat to run on the windows system, but anytime i want to start them, he asks me, wheather i really want to start them. He somehow detects it as "internet file" |
| 19:12.47 | |dennis| | abrotman: we have been using this kernel for the past month without any probs. tried the rescue or single user mode and all is well and hunky.. |
| 19:12.48 | Lee__ | how would I automaticaly run a script when a USB key is inserted? |
| 19:12.52 | |dennis| | am about to try the 2.4 non-smp.. |
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| 19:13.00 | abrotman | |dennis|: so just that kernel barfs ? |
| 19:13.16 | asg | Lee__: hotplug or udev |
| 19:13.22 | |dennis| | we would think so..yes.....after five mins after completely booting up..yes... |
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| 19:13.32 | Lee__ | asg, thanks |
| 19:13.47 | asg | Lee__: have sec or logwatch tail /var/log/syslog looking for useful info and then perform an action. |
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| 19:16.44 | dpower | How can i have a script run automatically when a user logs into theyre shell |
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| 19:16.56 | nlight | dpower, something with .bashrc ? |
| 19:17.08 | dpower | k |
| 19:17.10 | hcy | i removed cups completely, then reinstalled it using the default cupsd.conf that apt-get got me, restarted it, and i still get lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible |
| 19:17.17 | asg | nlight: man bash /INVOCATION |
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| 19:17.42 | hcy | could i have to modprobe something for usb printer support? or chmod something? |
| 19:17.48 | rikva | asg: Do you have any idea -- when I specify ports in the default virtual server configuration, should I also specify those ports in ports.conf? |
| 19:18.19 | asg | rikva: well, ports.conf should include all specified in your virtual server definitions. |
| 19:18.20 | hkais | help please, |
| 19:18.20 | hkais | i need a running config for my screen in chroot, but i get Cannot access '/dev/pts/0': No such file or directory |
| 19:18.31 | rikva | asg: ah :) |
| 19:18.33 | hcy | lsmod | grep usb shows me: usblp, usbkbd, usb_storage, usbcore, scsi_mod |
| 19:18.36 | asg | hkais: does /dev/pts/0 exist in your chroot? |
| 19:19.18 | asg | hcy: first, check if dmesg doesn't already show some information about the device when you plug it in (or tail -f /var/log/syslog) |
| 19:19.32 | hkais | asg: i tried to mount it outside my chroot |
| 19:19.40 | OleMoudi | do you guys know which channel may I go to ask a question about QoS ? |
| 19:19.46 | asg | OleMoudi: #lartc |
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| 19:19.54 | asg | OleMoudi: and the FAQ at lartc.org |
| 19:20.03 | OleMoudi | ok thanks |
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| 19:20.12 | a1fa | i am looking for font package that has "Fixed" larger than 17pt? |
| 19:20.13 | OleMoudi | great, it's empty |
| 19:20.17 | asg | hkais: right but does your chroot contain /dev/pts/* |
| 19:20.34 | macsim | I'm able to mount usb mass storage with pmount, but udev doesn't work by itself |
| 19:20.34 | asg | OleMoudi: the FAQ is pretty comprehensive. Try ##lartc also (freenode's odd naming scheme may have put it there) |
| 19:20.49 | OleMoudi | empty too |
| 19:20.54 | asg | ah well |
| 19:20.58 | macsim | anyone ? |
| 19:21.08 | asg | OleMoudi: #iptables may also be useful (or ##iptables) |
| 19:21.08 | a1fa | or console greater than 12pt? |
| 19:21.17 | hkais | asg: no, i already tried it to mount the devpts in the /home/chroot/dev/pts but now i get no other pty found... |
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| 19:21.40 | OleMoudi | empty both... |
| 19:21.43 | OleMoudi | hehe just kidding |
| 19:21.43 | hkais | asg: what is the right handling for screen in chroot? |
| 19:21.47 | OleMoudi | thanks asg |
| 19:21.48 | asg | OleMoudi: hah |
| 19:21.51 | cappuchino | hi |
| 19:22.39 | SimonRaven | hkais: same as in no chroot... |
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| 19:23.04 | SimonRaven | there is no such thing as no chroot anyway, it seems that way though |
| 19:23.13 | OldakQuill | Is it possible to install BSD kernels on the same drive as Linux? Choose which to do when it begins to boot up |
| 19:23.24 | cappuchino | join |
| 19:23.28 | fbi | OldakQuill: yes |
| 19:23.28 | asg | OldakQuill: yes, grub can boot BSD |
| 19:23.36 | SimonRaven | OldakQuill: in different partitions |
| 19:23.38 | asg | OldakQuill: that's how I do it anyway |
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| 19:23.43 | hcy | asg: i see the following in dmesg: "usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 // hw_random: RNG not detected // drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04E8 pid 0x3265 // drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usblp // drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver" |
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| 19:24.01 | asg | hcy: so the system found it |
| 19:24.03 | Arthemis | hi! |
| 19:24.09 | hcy | asg: yes |
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| 19:24.13 | cappuchino | what freks |
| 19:24.17 | hkais | hmm okay, i do not understand the chroot concept. i thought i have to share the devices by mounting them in the folder outside the chroot, and then to jail them |
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| 19:24.19 | nlight | I have a question.. wtf is hw_random?? |
| 19:24.20 | Arthemis | can anyone help me!? |
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| 19:24.27 | cappuchino | i mean freaks |
| 19:24.27 | asg | !tell Arthemis about ask |
| 19:24.27 | nlight | Arthemis, go on |
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| 19:24.41 | Arthemis | thank you |
| 19:24.43 | Arthemis | than... |
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| 19:24.49 | Arthemis | i've a sound card |
| 19:24.55 | Arthemis | integred in motherboard |
| 19:24.56 | SimonRaven | *plonk* |
| 19:24.57 | Arthemis | so |
| 19:25.00 | hkais | asg: hmm okay, i do not understand the chroot concept. i thought i have to share the devices by mounting them in the folder outside the chroot, and then to jail them |
| 19:25.00 | hcy | asg: however if i point my browser at localhost:631 and do the 'add printer' thing, no devices are listed in the dropdown list |
| 19:25.07 | Arthemis | i don't know why linux |
| 19:25.10 | fbi | !tell Arthemis about enter |
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| 19:25.20 | Arthemis | enter? |
| 19:25.29 | Ronin | Arthemis: type more hit enter less |
| 19:25.32 | OldakQuill | Why aren't the BSD/Hurd ports official yet? |
| 19:25.37 | asg | hcy: well, that list will only contain known devices. Did you install foomatic* and gimp-print-* packages? |
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| 19:25.44 | asg | OldakQuill: not as stable or complete |
| 19:25.57 | OldakQuill | Ah, I suppose it would take some work |
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| 19:26.14 | Arthemis | ? |
| 19:26.23 | asg | OldakQuill: people are known to be running both GNU/kFreeBSD and GNU/Hurd here though (notably tarzeau) |
| 19:26.23 | Arthemis | what can i do? |
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| 19:26.32 | fbi | OldakQuill: check out kfreebsd if you want to run a bsd kernel with GNU userland |
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| 19:26.46 | asg | fbi: why anyone would want to do that, however... |
| 19:26.59 | fbi | asg: i run it! just for the hell of it though |
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| 19:27.22 | fbi | the new kfreebsd installer is frickin' awesome |
| 19:27.22 | Arthemis | nobody help me? |
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| 19:27.23 | cappuchino | people............................................... |
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| 19:27.28 | asg | fbi: yeah. If I'm running a BSD kernel, I really want the BSD userland as well though |
| 19:27.33 | OldakQuill | I understand kFreeBSD is on a LiveCD also? |
| 19:27.33 | asg | cappuchino: what is your problem? |
| 19:27.34 | hcy | asg: yes i did |
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| 19:27.46 | asg | hcy: hmmmm |
| 19:28.05 | hcy | asg: using foomatic-gui i get that same error 'client-error-not-possible', and the printer gets installed as file:/dev/null |
| 19:28.17 | asg | eek. odd |
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| 19:28.31 | cappuchino | where the hell do you come from |
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| 19:28.48 | Ronin | Arthemis: nothing as we still dont know what your problem is |
| 19:28.49 | lazzer | I am trying to compile the 2.6 kernel, now i am using 2.4 from apt. When i reboot i get VFS: cannot open root device.. is there something i have missed? i suspect there is something about devfs or something like that |
| 19:28.50 | cappuchino | imean asg |
| 19:28.50 | hkais | asg: have you an good chroot howto? i get crazy, i thought i have only to mount devpts into /home/chroot/dev/pts but that seems not to be enought |
| 19:28.54 | fbi | cappuchino: start talking Debian or get out |
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| 19:29.20 | cappuchino | is that a threat |
| 19:29.28 | fbi | indeed. |
| 19:29.37 | |dennis| | abrotman: it appears that the kernel got mucked up...2.6 smp got screwed some how..shall look for a new version of the kernel..could be a messed up cpu as well true??? |
| 19:29.38 | enveezee | Amerika, fuck yeah! |
| 19:29.52 | Ronin | enveezee: heh a classic :) |
| 19:29.53 | enveezee | heh, the fbi, telling people to get the fuck out of #debian |
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| 19:29.56 | |dennis| | abrotman: thanks a bunch anyways... :) |
| 19:29.58 | nlight | enveezee, ..coming again to save the motherfucking day, yeah |
| 19:30.02 | fbi | !beer enveezee |
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| 19:30.32 | cappuchino | am going nowhere |
| 19:30.46 | djp | should i worry about a usb timeout on boot? it doesn't seem to happen on every boot although sometimes it repeats the warning over and over between 4 to 8 times, then x boot fine... |
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| 19:31.35 | cappuchino | hi |
| 19:31.45 | cappuchino | hi |
| 19:31.47 | cappuchino | hi |
| 19:31.48 | Ronin | yes cappuchino we saw you the last 3 times |
| 19:31.56 | Gnea | !tell cappuchino about flood |
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| 19:32.01 | Ronin | what is it with #debian and attracting morons heh |
| 19:32.05 | Petaris | Arthemis: What are you asking? |
| 19:32.09 | cappuchino | okay whts flood |
| 19:32.09 | SimonRaven | that's who i plonked |
| 19:32.13 | aarkerio | Hi! since when PHP5 is on testing? |
| 19:32.22 | nlight | !tell nlight about flood |
| 19:32.37 | nlight | õìì |
| 19:32.40 | nlight | hmm |
| 19:32.44 | nlight | nothing happened (: |
| 19:32.48 | SimonRaven | !info php5 |
| 19:32.52 | Gnea | !tell nlight about flood |
| 19:33.00 | SimonRaven | !info php5-cli |
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| 19:33.06 | Gnea | must not know how to read |
| 19:33.09 | cappuchino | please tell me about flood |
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| 19:33.27 | SimonRaven | !find bin/php5 etch |
| 19:33.30 | Gnea | i already did. if you are incapable of reading the information then you have no need to be here. |
| 19:33.37 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/php5' (2): (/usr/bin/php5) in web/php5-cli ;; (/usr/bin/php5-cgi, /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5) in web/php5-cgi. |
| 19:33.48 | SimonRaven | aarkerio: ^^^ |
| 19:34.23 | abrotman | |dennis|: could be .. but doubtful if other kernels work |
| 19:34.25 | SimonRaven | afk |
| 19:34.32 | cappuchino | sorry everybody |
| 19:35.11 | |dennis| | abrotman: we have two cpus..right..the first one might be good and hence the non-smp kernel seems to work fine..but with smp kernel..the second one kicks in and messes things up...??maybe..maybe not..thanks a bunch anyways... :) |
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| 19:35.39 | abrotman | |dennis|: even with a different kernel ? |
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| 19:36.19 | fbi | ok how the hell do i get out of full screen putty now |
| 19:36.27 | hebfftijd | what could be the advantage of having to static ip to one eth |
| 19:36.45 | Gnea | alt-tab |
| 19:36.47 | hkais | maybe someone else can help: |
| 19:36.47 | hkais | i#ve tried to mount /dev to /home/chroot/dev as bind => now i get Cannot access '/dev/pts/0': No such file or directory |
| 19:36.47 | hkais | i also tried to mount devpts /home/chroot/dev/pts => now i get no more PTYs, Sorry could not find a PTY and screen closes |
| 19:36.50 | asg | hebfftijd: you always know it's address irrespective on dns |
| 19:36.51 | |dennis| | by default we had 2.6 smp. this is where is would messup. i tried 2.6 -rescue/single user mode..seemed to work fine..so yeah might not be cpu. right now running 2.4 non-smp. seems to be ok. |
| 19:37.02 | fbi | Gnea: not working |
| 19:37.02 | |dennis| | abrotman: ^ |
| 19:37.12 | Gnea | fbi: alt-enter? |
| 19:37.12 | abrotman | |dennis|: what about 2.4-smp ? |
| 19:37.16 | Tortel | !smite abrotman |
| 19:37.21 | Gnea | ctrl-esc? |
| 19:37.23 | fbi | Alt+Escape brings up the taskbar though |
| 19:37.26 | abrotman | !kill Tortel |
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| 19:37.30 | |dennis| | abrotman: shall do the right now..... ;) |
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| 19:37.36 | Tortel | !kill everyone |
| 19:37.36 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 19:37.36 | fbi | Alt+Enter not doing anything either |
| 19:37.37 | Gnea | !beer #debian |
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| 19:38.09 | hcy | i think something must be devastatingly wrong either in my /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file, or else i'm missing a module for usb printers |
| 19:38.09 | abrotman | |dennis|: i love the message .. Nov 7 10:10:26 heart kernel: bad: scheduling while atomic! |
| 19:38.14 | Gnea | * everyone - no such nick or channel |
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| 19:38.25 | bernie_ | hi |
| 19:38.28 | bernie_ | hello |
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| 19:38.37 | hcy | if anyone knows about that please help me |
| 19:38.40 | Gnea | hcy: what kernel was it again? (sorry i keep asking that, but i don't see a response) |
| 19:38.42 | asg | abrotman: RK_Init: idt=0xc0326000, FUCK: Can't find sys_call_table[] (spoopin had that one this morning) |
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| 19:38.56 | hcy | Gnea: oh i didn't notice that question. it's 2.6.3 |
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| 19:39.10 | Gnea | hcy: running sarge? |
| 19:39.14 | hcy | Gnea: sid |
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| 19:39.23 | cappuchino | ape |
| 19:39.24 | |dennis| | abrotman: :) lol |
| 19:39.26 | Gnea | hcy: egads - upgrade to 2.6.12! that's the problem |
| 19:39.34 | hcy | is it? |
| 19:39.35 | SlayerXP | Gnea: 2.6.12 ? |
| 19:39.37 | Gnea | yes! |
| 19:39.38 | cappuchino | zoo |
| 19:39.42 | Gnea | SlayerXP: 2.6.12 |
| 19:39.45 | SlayerXP | not 2.6.14 ? |
| 19:39.49 | Gnea | hrm |
| 19:39.53 | cappuchino | ape |
| 19:39.54 | fbi | !ops cappuchino extreme idiocy |
| 19:39.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: cappuchino extreme idiocy |
| 19:39.55 | Gnea | heard too many bugs about 2.6.14 so far |
| 19:39.56 | asg | !ops cappuchino. Random stupidity; something in the water I expect |
| 19:39.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: cappuchino. Random stupidity; something in the water I expect |
| 19:39.59 | Gnea | i wouldn't recommend it yet |
| 19:40.01 | Tenkawa | Whats the most efficient way to get apt to update a new machine with the same package list as another machine? |
| 19:40.03 | fbi | asg: high five |
| 19:40.05 | asg | fbi: :) |
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| 19:40.12 | asg | Tenkawa: /msg dpkg clone |
| 19:40.15 | Gnea | 2.6.12 will *work* |
| 19:40.17 | hcy | damn i hate fooling around with the kernel, ok gnea where do i get that and how do i install it? |
| 19:40.18 | asg | bah |
| 19:40.21 | asg | Tenkawa: /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 19:40.21 | Tenkawa | asg: thanks |
| 19:40.29 | mmealling | hah! got it..... |
| 19:40.32 | Gnea | hcy: it's in apt - apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.12 |
| 19:40.33 | cappuchino | what in the world did you just say |
| 19:40.36 | Tenkawa | nice |
| 19:40.43 | Tenkawa | exactly what I needed thanks much |
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| 19:41.11 | asg | cappuchino: we are asking the channel ops to kick you because your contribution to #debian has been zero. |
| 19:41.14 | mmealling | I gave up on using pwcheck and just went with saslauthd, but then since the postfix debian package runs jailed I had to tell saslauthd to run inside postfix's /var/spool/postfix dir |
| 19:41.17 | Ronin | SimonRaven: havent missed anything remotely interesting |
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| 19:41.36 | jessicaNZ | hi, I want to upgrade a woddy system to etch, can I just change the sources.lst and do a dist upgrade or do I have to upgrade to sarge first? |
| 19:41.43 | hcy | Gnea: would i want the 386 or 686 one? |
| 19:41.47 | cappuchino | hello |
| 19:41.51 | asg | jessicaNZ: you should go to sarge first |
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| 19:42.16 | hcy | Gnea: (this is a dell latitude laptop , cellron 1.7) |
| 19:42.16 | aarkerio | jessicaNZ, the process take a couple of days |
| 19:42.36 | fbi | couple of days? /me checks to see if this is #gentoo |
| 19:42.36 | aarkerio | many /etc/*.conf changes |
| 19:42.40 | SimonRaven | aarkerio: only if you're on dialup |
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| 19:42.48 | Gnea | hcy: uname -m |
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| 19:43.02 | hcy | i686 |
| 19:43.14 | hcy | it'll work right out of the box? i don't need to compile a kernel myself? |
| 19:43.14 | jessicaNZ | asg: thanks I will |
| 19:43.26 | aarkerio | I don't speak about the download speed rather config changes: dovecot and postfix changes |
| 19:43.27 | Gnea | jessicaNZ: you've just been lied to. the upgrade process takes less than 2 hours if you're on a fast connection. |
| 19:43.45 | aarkerio | (at least the last time when I did the dist-upgrade) |
| 19:43.46 | Ronin | jessicaNZ: how good are on on debian and linux? |
| 19:43.49 | Gnea | jessicaNZ: if you're on dialup, then yes, maybe it will take a couple days |
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| 19:44.02 | SimonRaven | Ronin: i saw that when s/he/it was going on about us being freaks.... *i'll* say if *i'm* a freak, thankyouverymuch |
| 19:44.06 | asg | aarkerio: you must have a painfully slow internet connection then. |
| 19:44.08 | aarkerio | I don't speak about the download speed |
| 19:44.14 | cappuchino | i love Puebla! |
| 19:44.20 | asg | we don't fucking care |
| 19:44.23 | aarkerio | Me too! |
| 19:44.27 | Gnea | shut up |
| 19:44.34 | SimonRaven | aarkerio: hint: diff -uN old.file new.file |
| 19:44.46 | jessicaNZ | Gnea: I know, I am on dial up but it's just a server install no X etc, so I can possibly do it overnight |
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| 19:45.05 | asg | jessicaNZ: it should be easily doable overnight in that case then |
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| 19:45.46 | p3rti | hi |
| 19:45.49 | SimonRaven | Ronin: which i am, but i don't like unknown people calling me one. i don't mind if people who know me, do :) |
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| 19:46.31 | p3rti | i cant remember where i can comment the modules that i dont want to be loaded.. where its the file please? |
| 19:46.32 | elSinuX | hello, does any body know the server for debian ppc ? |
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| 19:46.44 | abrotman | cappuchino: want a cookie ? |
| 19:46.45 | asg | p3rti: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 19:46.55 | p3rti | ahh |
| 19:46.56 | asg | abrotman: s/cookie/biscotti |
| 19:46.56 | p3rti | thanks |
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| 19:47.03 | SimonRaven | elSinuX: what? |
| 19:47.04 | cappuchino | yes, please |
| 19:47.05 | abrotman | asg: whichever |
| 19:47.20 | mick_home | ok, this is really OT, but is anyone in here Polish? I'm supposed to make a vcard of an address, but I have no idea what is what |
| 19:47.23 | cappuchino | the best one |
| 19:47.32 | asg | !pl |
| 19:47.33 | dpkg | pl is probably sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 19:47.41 | mick_home | ty |
| 19:47.43 | elSinuX | the name of the room for ppc users |
| 19:47.48 | asg | elSinuX: #debianppc |
| 19:47.50 | TheCount | !ppc |
| 19:47.50 | dpkg | [ppc] short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc, or not going to be used by Apple much longer |
| 19:47.50 | fbi | #debianppc |
| 19:47.57 | SimonRaven | !room |
| 19:47.57 | SimonRaven | #debianppc |
| 19:47.57 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 19:48.01 | elSinuX | thks |
| 19:48.07 | fbi | elSinuX: /list #debian* |
| 19:48.25 | asg | fbi: better to /msg chanserv help (better filtering) |
| 19:48.25 | SimonRaven | or /msg chanserv list #debian* |
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| 19:48.40 | fbi | indeed |
| 19:48.45 | elSinuX | thks you are the best :D |
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| 19:49.18 | SimonRaven | might as well add in that missing 'a' |
| 19:49.25 | mick_home | ok, pl has 2 people in there |
| 19:49.28 | mick_home | me and ChanServ |
| 19:49.31 | mick_home | lol |
| 19:49.35 | SimonRaven | oh, no |
| 19:49.40 | SimonRaven | oh, nm |
| 19:49.44 | mick_home | guess there aren't a lot of polish people |
| 19:49.56 | asg | mick_home: probably down the boozer at this time of night |
| 19:49.56 | abrotman | there were .. but that was before the germans went to work :) |
| 19:50.01 | fbi | haha |
| 19:50.21 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.27 | SimonRaven | / \ |
| 19:50.35 | asg | SimonRaven: you lost your head there |
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| 19:50.51 | asg | SimonRaven: you've done a decent Flux Capacitor though |
| 19:50.53 | SimonRaven | belated loldude |
| 19:50.58 | fbi | 1.21 jigawatts! |
| 19:51.02 | SimonRaven | *grin* |
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| 19:51.18 | SimonRaven | jizzawatts |
| 19:51.23 | hcy | Gnea: you still here? i installed the new kernel, followed the instructions adding 'initrd=/initrd.img' to my lilo.conf file and ran lilo, but got 'Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory' |
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| 19:51.48 | Zwartetoorts | hello? |
| 19:51.49 | asg | SimonRaven: don't remember that being in Orgasmo |
| 19:52.03 | asg | ardapfelsnacks? |
| 19:52.11 | Tenkawa | hmm |
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| 19:52.19 | SimonRaven | nah, just made it up |
| 19:52.26 | hcy | Gnea: do i need to apt-get that too? |
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| 19:52.34 | asg | SimonRaven: ah, it would have been a good fit for the early scenes |
| 19:52.41 | Zwartetoorts | Can I ask something about compiling apps from source? |
| 19:52.45 | SimonRaven | hehe |
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| 19:52.50 | asg | !tell Zwartetoorts about ask |
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| 19:53.14 | SimonRaven | Zwartetoorts: you mat not ask meta-questions. however, you may ask questions, no need for permission |
| 19:53.24 | nlight | SimonRaven, wtf is a meta-question? |
| 19:53.40 | asg | nlight: wtf is a meta-question is a meta-question |
| 19:53.42 | SimonRaven | kind of question Zwartetoorts just asked |
| 19:53.47 | hcy | Gnea: ? |
| 19:53.49 | pmdboi | hey, all... is there any version of gcc-2.95 in debian stable with -m64 support compiled in? the package here doesn't seem to support it |
| 19:53.52 | SimonRaven | nlight: /msg dpkg ask |
| 19:53.56 | SimonRaven | nlight: /msg dpkg ask-to-ask |
| 19:53.57 | nlight | asg, yeah, ok (; |
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| 19:54.12 | pmdboi | asg: more like a meta-meta-question |
| 19:54.28 | asg | pmdboi: *nod* |
| 19:54.32 | hcy | in the past when i installed new images it symlinked /initrd.img to something in /boot but this time there's no img file in boot for me to symlink to |
| 19:54.47 | SimonRaven | that was more question about a meta-question, that was really a meta-question, while trying to pose as a question |
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| 19:54.58 | SimonRaven | questions? |
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| 19:55.07 | nlight | SimonRaven, have you been drinking.. lately? (: |
| 19:55.07 | asg | SimonRaven: sneaking bastardry more like |
| 19:55.16 | asg | !pubtime |
| 19:55.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 19:55.23 | SimonRaven | nlight: not for about a moon |
| 19:55.24 | asg | eta for drinking, 3 minutes and counting |
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| 19:55.29 | SimonRaven | asg: hehe |
| 19:55.35 | fbi | pub time pfffffft |
| 19:55.36 | Zwartetoorts | Ok, I'm trying to build ffmpeg. I want to compile ogg, theora and vorbis into it. But linking failes on non findable methods in ogg, needed by both theora and vorbis |
| 19:55.40 | fbi | you're in the states now |
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| 19:55.44 | fbi | it's !bartime |
| 19:55.55 | SimonRaven | Zwartetoorts: need dev packages i bet |
| 19:56.04 | asg | fbi: ther are pubs but they are hard to find and don't smell right due to lack of age and buildup. |
| 19:56.06 | Zwartetoorts | Question: when I make install libraries |
| 19:56.08 | asg | s/ther/there/ |
| 19:56.09 | fbi | haha |
| 19:56.18 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 19:56.18 | fbi | also, they don't close at 11:00 |
| 19:56.32 | Zwartetoorts | it puts everythinh under /usr/local/lib |
| 19:56.34 | fbi | that's one of the things that blew my mind about brighton, all the pubs closed at 11:00 |
| 19:56.37 | SimonRaven | that can be overlooked ;) |
| 19:56.38 | asg | fbi: no, but since I'm up at 5am every day, making 11pm is difficult |
| 19:56.40 | Zwartetoorts | does gcc look there by default? |
| 19:56.41 | fbi | unless you know the bartenders of course |
| 19:56.48 | fbi | asg: word. |
| 19:56.57 | SimonRaven | Zwartetoorts: doesn't it already come with that support anyway? |
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| 19:57.13 | Zwartetoorts | What? |
| 19:57.16 | asg | fbi: a decent curry place would be nice though; we don't have one |
| 19:57.20 | SimonRaven | ffmpeg |
| 19:57.33 | fbi | oh man, i haven't had a good curry or kebab since i got back |
| 19:57.37 | Zwartetoorts | It needs those libs doesn't it? |
| 19:58.03 | SimonRaven | uh |
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| 19:58.09 | asg | fbi: there is a decent Thai that does a passible curry but it isn't the same. |
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| 19:58.30 | fbi | word, thai food makes my gassy |
| 19:58.38 | asg | it's worth it though |
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| 19:58.41 | fbi | which is great when you're out on a date |
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| 19:59.00 | asg | fbi: it adds an interesting dimension, that's for sure |
| 19:59.07 | Zwartetoorts | But still, my question is: does gcc look in /usr/local/lib by default? |
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| 19:59.11 | SimonRaven | Zwartetoorts: um, it does already have that support... |
| 19:59.20 | fbi | well, if you can find a chick who doesn't mind the smell of your farts, that's a keeper. |
| 19:59.25 | SimonRaven | so why are you bothering to compile it... |
| 19:59.44 | Zwartetoorts | You want the long awnser, simon? |
| 20:00.03 | fbi | i'm guessing he doesn't |
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| 20:00.10 | SimonRaven | Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 3:20051101-0.0), libavutilcvs0 (>= 3:20051101-0.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libfaac0 (>= 1.24-0.4), libfaad2-0 (>= 2.0.0-0.7), liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1), libogg0 (>= 1.1.2), libsdl1.2debian (>> 1.2.7+1.2.8), libtheora0, libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0), libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.0), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxvidcore4 (>= 1:1.0.0-0.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) |
| 20:00.15 | SimonRaven | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libdc1394-13, libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgsm1 (>= 1.0.10), libimlib2, libogg0 (>= 1.1.2), libraw1394-5, libsdl1.2debian (>> 1.2.7+1.2.8), libtheora0, libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0), libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.0), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) |
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| 20:00.44 | SimonRaven | you want build-deps too? |
| 20:01.10 | Zwartetoorts | I think i already know the build debs.... |
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| 20:01.52 | hcy | someone please help me with this initrd business, i did apt-get install linux-image.2.61.2-blah , then edited and ran lilo, and it's complaining that /initrd isn't found |
| 20:02.05 | SimonRaven | and why aren't you apt-get source-ing it ? |
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| 20:02.27 | Ronin | cmd |
| 20:02.29 | SimonRaven | if you do need to build it locally |
| 20:02.30 | Ronin | damn it |
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| 20:02.35 | solinux | Hi :) |
| 20:02.35 | Ronin | wrong bloody keyboard heh |
| 20:02.47 | hcy | SimonRaven: that wasn't directed at me right? |
| 20:02.58 | SimonRaven | no |
| 20:03.04 | Zwartetoorts | Because i need it to build videolan, which runs out of memory in the dist version, so i want to build the latest videolan version |
| 20:03.10 | Zwartetoorts | and hope it was fixed |
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| 20:03.40 | valdyn | hcy: you set up your lilo to use /initrd, but installing linux-image... does not set up /initrd |
| 20:03.56 | hcy | valdyn: ok so how do i set that up? |
| 20:03.59 | valdyn | hcy: now if that is the case, why dont you set lilo to use /boot/initrd... |
| 20:04.07 | SimonRaven | Zwartetoorts: /msg dpkg simple sid backport - tells you how to build your own quickie .deb. ignore the bits about editing sources.list |
| 20:04.17 | hcy | valdyn: because /boot/initrd... doesn't exist either |
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| 20:04.49 | dpower | what exactly do i have to do to .bashrc to start a script when logging in, i open the file and i see some code, not to sure to do from there |
| 20:05.17 | Zwartetoorts | Well ffmpeg links right agains libmp3lame and flac now, I just don't understand why it failes to link again ogg... |
| 20:05.27 | valdyn | hcy: dpkg -l linux-image | grep initrd |
| 20:05.59 | valdyn | hcy: naturally replace "linux-image" with whatever your package really is called |
| 20:06.23 | dpower | anyone? |
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| 20:06.28 | valdyn | hcy: ops, that got to be a capital L ( -L ) |
| 20:06.36 | abrotman | !.bashrc |
| 20:06.39 | abrotman | !bashrc |
| 20:06.39 | dpkg | well, ~/.bashrc is where you put all your aliases and functions. It's read at start-up time by all interactive non-login shells. To make sure it's read by a login shell, put "source ~/.bashrc" at the end of ~/.bash_profile |
| 20:06.55 | abrotman | oh ffs .. someone kill him |
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| 20:07.23 | valdyn | dpkg: ~/.bashrc isnt specifically just executed when logging in |
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| 20:07.33 | hcy | valdyn: ok, "/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/initrd /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/initrd/vesafb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/initrd/capability.ko", what do i do with that? |
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| 20:07.43 | TGoC|BRB | How can i use TOP to order the processes on CPU load? |
| 20:07.46 | Fackamato | hi, are there any amiga users in here? |
| 20:07.56 | abrotman | s/in here// |
| 20:07.57 | TGoC|BRB | cause i got a little screen and i wanna see what's making my cpu load 30% |
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| 20:08.09 | Fackamato | I'd like to try linux on my amiga 1200, but I can't find any up2date docs |
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| 20:08.22 | abrotman | TGoC|BRB: the man page shuld tell you how |
| 20:08.24 | abrotman | . |
| 20:08.27 | Fackamato | only ones concerning kernel 0.9 and 1.1, but I can see that there's a 2.4.27 for amiga 68k on the debian sites |
| 20:08.33 | hcy | valdyn: do i just copy /lib/modules/blah/initrd into /boot and make a simlink to / ? |
| 20:08.51 | abrotman | Fackamato: m68k ? |
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| 20:08.54 | hcy | valdyn: no wait, that's a directory, not an img. ok i'm lost |
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| 20:09.18 | Fackamato | abrotman yes |
| 20:09.28 | TGoC|BRB | abrotman i am trying to read it |
| 20:09.36 | abrotman | !m68k |
| 20:09.36 | dpkg | methinks m68k is Motorola 680x0 CPU family, used in Macs, Ataris, Amigas, Palm machines, older Sun workstations, and various VME bus systems. linux m68k runs on some of these, ucLinux should run on the less powerful models, or http://www.linux-m68k.org/faq/faq.html |
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| 20:09.37 | TGoC|BRB | but my screen is so small |
| 20:09.44 | TGoC|BRB | it like prints |
| 20:09.46 | TGoC|BRB | 5 lines |
| 20:09.48 | valdyn | hcy: hold on, im checking this.. meanwhile you could just look in /boot what there is on initrd* |
| 20:09.49 | TGoC|BRB | and my screen is full |
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| 20:10.10 | Flendor | I try to install KDE, but package kdeaddons is not available; is this known? I hope it will be fixed.. |
| 20:10.18 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
| 20:10.44 | Flendor | Sorry, going there.. |
| 20:10.50 | hcy | valdyn: thanks... it has some old img's from previous deb images i've tried |
| 20:11.44 | TGoC|BRB | abrotman... I can't read man page properly... |
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| 20:12.01 | abrotman | dude |
| 20:12.11 | valdyn | hcy: looks to me like the initrds are generated when installing a linux-image |
| 20:12.21 | valdyn | hcy: ..which probably went wrong for you for whatever reason |
| 20:12.29 | hcy | :( |
| 20:12.36 | abrotman | TGoC|BRB: you realize that the default display in top is sorted by CPU usage .. right ? |
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| 20:12.43 | tasladsd | how can you display the contents of all the files in a dir one screen at a time |
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| 20:12.50 | shival | how do I send mail from the command line? I've tried looking at docs on sendmail but they al lseem to be on complex administration issues. I just want a simple one shot email message sent. |
| 20:12.53 | hcy | i'll try removing and then reinstalling |
| 20:13.08 | mick_home | tasladsd: ls -las | less ? |
| 20:13.18 | bbrazil | shival: echo message | mail person@address -s 'subject' |
| 20:13.28 | shival | THANK YOU. |
| 20:13.36 | TGoC|BRB | abrotman it only pops up 1.5% |
| 20:13.42 | TGoC|BRB | and my server load is 30% |
| 20:13.48 | TGoC|BRB | and i don't know whats causing it |
| 20:13.49 | abrotman | so? |
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| 20:13.58 | abrotman | 30%? that's fine |
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| 20:14.07 | TGoC|BRB | now it is |
| 20:14.09 | TGoC|BRB | but it sometimes |
| 20:14.10 | tasladsd | thanks |
| 20:14.14 | TGoC|BRB | jumps up to 100 / 125 |
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| 20:14.46 | valdyn | TGoC|BRB: if you measure load in percentage it can hardly be 125 |
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| 20:15.18 | tasladsd | and one last question, how would you chmod something read and write for you your group and everyone else? |
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| 20:15.50 | abrotman | valdyn: overclocked! |
| 20:15.51 | hcy | so something's wrong with the installation script i guess, it doesn't finish |
| 20:16.14 | chuck_ | chmod 666? |
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| 20:16.52 | dondelelcaro | hcy: the kernel postinst? which kernel? |
| 20:17.03 | hcy | 2.6.12 |
| 20:17.08 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ^ |
| 20:17.15 | tasladsd | thanks chuck_ |
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| 20:17.32 | dondelelcaro | hcy: yes, but which of the 30 2.6.12 images are we talking about? |
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| 20:18.02 | vekpos | where can i get some drivers for a voodoo1-card? |
| 20:18.07 | hcy | dondelelcaro: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 20:18.10 | black | hello everybody |
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| 20:18.37 | black_ | does somebody can help me with and usb pen drive in a debian sarge? |
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| 20:18.57 | lrodri | hello |
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| 20:19.40 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 20:19.46 | shival | bbrazil: sendmail is trying to use a remote SMTP server which my ISP blocks, is there a way i can specify this manually? |
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| 20:20.28 | shival | hello |
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| 20:20.50 | valdyn | shival: are you sure it isnt blocking all but one specific SMTP server? |
| 20:20.54 | lrodri | i nedd help whit bleutooth |
| 20:20.56 | TGoC|BRB | Can i limit it |
| 20:21.04 | vekpos | has no one an idea how i can get linux drivers for a voodoo1-card? |
| 20:21.04 | TGoC|BRB | that if my server goes over 50% cpu load |
| 20:21.09 | TGoC|BRB | that it denies connections? |
| 20:21.18 | abrotman | what kind of connections? |
| 20:21.21 | abrotman | and 50% load is fine |
| 20:21.28 | valdyn | vekpos: have you run 'apt-cache search voodoo' ? |
| 20:21.34 | abrotman | you do mean .. ".5" .. right ? |
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| 20:21.38 | vekpos | no.... |
| 20:21.44 | licued | yes... |
| 20:21.46 | shival | valdyn: yeah, its a spam prevention measure enacted by my ISP. I use SSL in my mail clients, or just use the mail server they give me. in this case, sendmail is picking it automatically, i think. |
| 20:21.47 | bbrazil | shival: try #sendmail |
| 20:21.52 | shival | thanks |
| 20:21.57 | vekpos | i didnt expect to find them there, ill do it |
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| 20:23.21 | hcy | valdyn: any other ideas? or Gnea? |
| 20:23.24 | TGoC|BRB | abauer? |
| 20:23.26 | TGoC|BRB | abrotman |
| 20:23.30 | TGoC|BRB | can i pm you? |
| 20:23.32 | TGoC|BRB | 1 message |
| 20:23.32 | abrotman | no |
| 20:23.35 | abrotman | talk in here |
| 20:23.37 | abrotman | !paste |
| 20:23.37 | dpkg | paste is probably Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 20:23.39 | valdyn | hcy: try a different linux-image? |
| 20:23.50 | hcy | valdyn: where would i get one? |
| 20:23.54 | TGoC|BRB | Cpu(s): 37.7% us, 8.3% sy, |
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| 20:24.14 | abrotman | TGoC|BRB: and ? .. seems fine |
| 20:24.19 | abrotman | at least your machine is doing something |
| 20:24.21 | _Nazcafan | hello |
| 20:24.22 | TGoC|BRB | Cpu(s): 37.7% us, 8.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 53.3% id, 0.3% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si |
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| 20:24.37 | valdyn | hcy: same place you got yours, just try the -386 one for instance |
| 20:24.45 | abrotman | TGoC|BRB: and the load(from `uptime` |
| 20:24.46 | abrotman | ) |
| 20:24.51 | TGoC|BRB | where can i see that? |
| 20:24.55 | hcy | valdyn: ok |
| 20:24.57 | abrotman | the command `uptime` |
| 20:25.03 | _Nazcafan | Iam having trouble in setting up mi airport connexion could anyone give me a hand with it please ? |
| 20:25.14 | abrotman | for your mac ? |
| 20:25.40 | _Nazcafan | no x86 with sarge |
| 20:25.42 | TGoC|BRB | 21:27:05 up 18 days, 16:16, 1 user, load average: 0.83, 0.91, 0.80 |
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| 20:26.28 | valdyn | TGoC|BRB: that is really low load |
| 20:26.41 | abrotman | not really low .. but certainly acceptable |
| 20:27.36 | abrotman | really low looks like "load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00" |
| 20:27.41 | hcy | valdyn: the 386 one had the same problem :( |
| 20:27.42 | TGoC|BRB | but it's caused by 1 site |
| 20:27.59 | TGoC|BRB | 1 site causes this |
| 20:28.12 | _Nazcafan | I can see the wi fi router through iwlist scan but I get no dhcp response after ifup ra0 |
| 20:28.17 | abrotman | 1 site of what? .. a website ? |
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| 20:28.20 | valdyn | hcy: something is broken on your system i guess, since whatever is making the initrd doesnt work and doesnt throw an error appearantly |
| 20:28.24 | landstalker | hi guys |
| 20:28.28 | TGoC|BRB | yeah |
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| 20:28.32 | TGoC|BRB | a rpggame |
| 20:28.33 | hcy | valdyn: :'( |
| 20:28.34 | fas3r | hi all |
| 20:28.38 | landstalker | do I get knoppix advice in ehre? |
| 20:28.43 | abrotman | no .. #knoppix |
| 20:28.51 | fas3r | anybody use phpslash? |
| 20:28.57 | abrotman | TGoC|BRB: then stop hosting the game .. that load is perfectly fine |
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| 20:30.03 | Fackamato | bah |
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| 20:30.15 | Fackamato | the debian installer howto for amiga doesn't mention anything on how to install it |
| 20:30.27 | Fackamato | it expects you to be in linux while installing linux |
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| 20:30.40 | valdyn | Fackamato: link it |
| 20:30.45 | nykheyn | hola, I've downloaded the j2se+jdk file from sun's site, but is a ".bin" file, how to install that? |
| 20:31.15 | enveezee | nykheyn: apt-get install java-package |
| 20:31.21 | valdyn | nykheyn: you dont "install" it, you install java-package and run "make-jpkg" on that .bin file |
| 20:31.42 | enveezee | then you install the resulting package |
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| 20:32.57 | websdale | nykheyn: do '/msg dpkg java-package' |
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| 20:34.11 | nykheyn | E: Impossibile trovare java-package |
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| 20:34.26 | nykheyn | it means= impossible to find java-package |
| 20:34.31 | abrotman | nykheyn: it's in contrib iirc |
| 20:34.35 | abrotman | !info java-package sarge |
| 20:34.45 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.24 (sarge), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 20:34.46 | Morydd | how can I re-run the xorg configuration that ran when I first installed it? |
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| 20:34.55 | abrotman | !tell nykheyn about contrib |
| 20:35.00 | valdyn | !drxx Morydd |
| 20:35.01 | dpkg | Morydd: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:35.31 | nykheyn | ok, still to come. thanks |
| 20:35.34 | Morydd | thank you. For some reason I always try dpkg --reconfigure. |
| 20:35.39 | Fackamato | valdyn nevermind |
| 20:36.07 | TGoC|BRB | but abrotman the site is being a little slow |
| 20:36.43 | abrotman | TGoC|BRB: get a faster server ? .. if the main application you're serviing is causing your server to be slow .. not much you can do about it .. except throw hardware at it i suppose |
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| 20:36.58 | abrotman | TGoC|BRB: or stop running X on your server |
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| 20:37.19 | resiak | TGoC|BRB: Or maybe the code that runs the site is badly written? |
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| 20:42.02 | black_ | people |
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| 20:42.17 | Tortel | !people |
| 20:42.17 | dpkg | people are stupid |
| 20:42.19 | black_ | who can I mount a pendrive to my debian sarge? |
| 20:42.23 | enveezee | ~person |
| 20:42.24 | apt | well, person is like a bot, but squishier, or a meat popscicle |
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| 20:42.32 | mirak | is there java for 64 bits ? |
| 20:42.39 | Tortel | !bits |
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| 20:42.47 | Tortel | !64 bit |
| 20:42.55 | Tortel | :( |
| 20:42.58 | Tortel | !kill everyone |
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| 20:43.09 | resiak | mirak: If Sun don't supply 64-bit binaries, then you can ask them why not. You could always use gcj and gij |
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| 20:43.22 | abrotman | !usb-storage |
| 20:43.22 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 20:43.24 | Puiu | I have my debian laptop hooked up to a windows XP laptop that is connected to the internet via wireless...I have my debian laptop connected to the windows xp laptop via cat5e/pcmcia...how can I have the windows box start a dhcp server so I can dhclient eth0 on the debian laptop? |
| 20:43.25 | mirak | resiak: they don't do 64 bit ? |
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| 20:43.45 | resiak | mirak: htfsik? |
| 20:43.50 | abrotman | Puiu: wrong channel ? |
| 20:43.55 | jax_ | hey, have a question. I'm pretty used to postfix and qmail. Never have tried exim, but it's what comes with debian by default so why not? Okay, I know how to setup qmail and postfix with web-gui for clients, but no idea if there is even a web-gui for exim. Someone point me in the right direction? |
| 20:43.56 | fbi | ehm, what the hell does this mean: keyboard: unknown scancode e0 59 |
| 20:44.02 | Puiu | abrotman: I have the debian laptop |
| 20:44.04 | Puiu | I don't know windows |
| 20:44.05 | Puiu | lol |
| 20:44.08 | Puiu | help me |
| 20:44.12 | abrotman | Puiu: but yo're asking how to start a DHCP server on windows |
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| 20:44.33 | enveezee | using ICS |
| 20:44.38 | fbi | i don't think woody likes my wireless keyboard |
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| 20:45.18 | nykheyn | abrotman, i've done "fakeroot make-jpkg j2.....bin" , but -> No matching plugin was found. |
| 20:45.19 | mirak | huh there is the source for the JDK on sun web site ? |
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| 20:45.42 | Morydd | hmmm... something definately wrong with my second video card setup. |
| 20:45.43 | abrotman | nykheyn: for what ? |
| 20:45.55 | enveezee | yeah you sell them your optic nerves and they give you source |
| 20:45.55 | abrotman | mirak: no |
| 20:46.13 | nykheyn | nykheyn@debian:~$ fakeroot make-jpkg j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux-ml.bin |
| 20:46.13 | nykheyn | Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXXM5bkDl |
| 20:46.13 | nykheyn | Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh |
| 20:46.13 | nykheyn | No matching plugin was found. |
| 20:46.13 | nykheyn | Removing temporary directory: done |
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| 20:46.19 | valdyn | nykheyn: dpkg -l java-package |
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| 20:46.31 | nykheyn | sorry :( |
| 20:46.55 | mirak | abrotman: JDK 5.0 Source Code |
| 20:46.56 | mirak | JDK 5.0 source code is available for researchers and others interested in exploring the details of the JDK. |
| 20:47.06 | mirak | abrotman: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp |
| 20:47.13 | mirak | that's maybe not what I think it is |
| 20:47.18 | abrotman | mirak: oh .. dunon .. |
| 20:47.24 | abrotman | mirak: i thought you meant a debian source ;) |
| 20:47.29 | mirak | :D |
| 20:47.30 | mirak | no |
| 20:47.36 | valdyn | nykheyn: where did you get that .bin? |
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| 20:47.54 | nykheyn | valdyn: sun's site |
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| 20:48.41 | nykheyn | valdyn: it's the j2se+jdk |
| 20:48.41 | ciscooo | hello, Whats the command to reconfigure the parameters? i remember something like base-config but doesnt work |
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| 20:48.41 | rygg | anyone knows how to route multicast on an extreme alpine ? |
| 20:48.42 | valdyn | nykheyn: looks more like the EE to me |
| 20:49.12 | nykheyn | valdyn: not understood |
| 20:49.32 | valdyn | nykheyn: enterprise edition ( whatever that means ) |
| 20:50.09 | nykheyn | do you want to know the exact url? |
| 20:50.09 | valdyn | nykheyn: grab j2se, not j2ee |
| 20:50.35 | nykheyn | ah, sorry :( |
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| 20:50.43 | ciscooo | anybody could help me pls? |
| 20:50.50 | nykheyn | what a stupid :( |
| 20:51.17 | valdyn | nykheyn: i guess you already saw it the link to j2se sdk is just below j2ee sdk |
| 20:52.07 | yang | I have 2 NICs , I would like to confiigure the second to act as a local router, can someone paste me the examples |
| 20:52.13 | nykheyn | valdyn, tonight i'm not perfectly connected :) |
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| 20:53.17 | valdyn | yang: ask for what you really want to achieve, a NIC is a NIC, not a router |
| 20:53.42 | yang | valdyn: I want the other machines from LAN to get access on the internet |
| 20:53.51 | valdyn | !masq |
| 20:53.52 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, masq is See: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L |
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| 20:54.33 | yang | i have to setup masquerading? |
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| 20:55.07 | ciscooo | i need help pls... i need the command which allow me to reconfigure my network settings such as domain name ips...etc |
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| 20:55.35 | SlayerXP | ciscooo: "vi /etc/network/interfaces" for a start |
| 20:55.38 | valdyn | yang: unless you have a device doing masquerading already or all your lan computers have real internet IPs , yes |
| 20:55.49 | black_ | I am having this problem with my usb -> after $mount /mnt/usb I get this error-> mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 20:55.57 | abrotman | well .. is it ? |
| 20:56.04 | abrotman | fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 20:56.14 | abrotman | !tell ciscooo about interfaces |
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| 20:56.43 | yang | valdyn: i cannot browse for masquerade info - manual now, since only my Xless gateway is online |
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| 20:57.06 | ramzez | hello people |
| 20:57.19 | black_ | fdisk -l /dev/sda doesn't show anything |
| 20:57.24 | ramzez | Is there a way to set a background image in a framebuffer console ? |
| 20:57.25 | TiMiDo | hello ramanujan |
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| 20:58.34 | black_ | I have to install some package |
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| 20:58.44 | black_ | I don't know which? |
| 20:58.53 | abrotman | black_: are you sure the device is /dev/sda ? ... did you check dmesg ? |
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| 20:59.39 | ciscooo | yes but theres a command that u type and a blue screen appears and you can configure many things |
| 20:59.45 | ciscooo | i cant remember it |
| 20:59.49 | black_ | abrotman, no, I didn't check it |
| 20:59.51 | ciscooo | base-configure |
| 20:59.57 | ciscooo | something like that |
| 20:59.58 | black_ | how I check it? |
| 21:00.20 | thingfish | base-config maybe |
| 21:00.32 | black_ | I plug the pendrive but it doesn't turn on the ligth |
| 21:00.32 | s4m | confirm base-config |
| 21:01.08 | ciscooo | doesnt work also :S |
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| 21:01.25 | gxl | #debian |
| 21:01.37 | _SerhaT_ | dpkg-reconfigure base-config ? just a guess can't test it |
| 21:01.59 | thingfish | no, I guarantee you it's base-config. |
| 21:02.13 | thingfish | if that returns nothing, well, there's a problem. |
| 21:02.49 | black_ | abrotman, are you there? |
| 21:02.54 | thingfish | I mean, I don't know that base-config is actually what you're wanting. |
| 21:03.16 | s4m | you can also try the "configure-debian"package |
| 21:03.20 | nykheyn | ok, valdyn, you're right, now with SE it works ;) |
| 21:03.38 | nykheyn | thanks ! |
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| 21:04.06 | ciscooo | ok thanks u guys will try it maybe i should pass as root |
| 21:04.08 | ciscooo | i forgot |
| 21:04.09 | ciscooo | :D |
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| 21:04.24 | thingfish | I was wondering, but thought it too obvious to ask about. |
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| 21:06.49 | ciscooo | yeah actually i am not a pro just a beginner |
| 21:06.55 | ciscooo | well ciao guys thanks again |
| 21:07.06 | thingfish | ;) |
| 21:07.44 | lightbright | ciscooo: the real "pro's" know they are also 'beginners', thats why and how they can keep growing and learning |
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| 21:11.01 | veleno | hello. the dns at my university is down. where could i retrive the IP of the server ? |
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| 21:11.13 | abrotman | black_: well .. kind of |
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| 21:11.38 | Yarou | veleno: gl with that. |
| 21:12.03 | black_ | abrotman: I can't mount the pen drive, can you explain me how to do it? |
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| 21:12.17 | abrotman | black_: what device is it in dmesg ? |
| 21:12.20 | veleno | Yarou, gl ? |
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| 21:12.30 | stew | black_: do you use udev? |
| 21:12.33 | Yarou | good luck |
| 21:12.35 | Yarou | lol |
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| 21:12.48 | black_ | I install usbmount |
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| 21:13.10 | abrotman | usbmgr ? |
| 21:13.15 | black_ | know the pen drive have the green ligth turned on, so I think that the os recognize it |
| 21:13.21 | black_ | know I want to mount it |
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| 21:14.22 | Mr-R | msg veleno try a root dns-server like 198.41.0.4. but do not use it on a regular basis. |
| 21:14.24 | Yarou | hmm |
| 21:14.25 | Mr-R | argh |
| 21:14.27 | Mr-R | sorry |
| 21:14.27 | enveezee | lightbright: I've always noticed its the stupids that always think they know it all. the genius are those who realize they have no idea |
| 21:15.23 | lightbright | enveezee: exactly my point., I agree, well said |
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| 21:16.11 | enveezee | I get that a lot when working with stupids. "Well you think you know it all" |
| 21:16.19 | veleno | i found a web page with a map of names and mapped IP... |
| 21:16.20 | Vilerage | anyone know of a good way to define one's 4th and 5th mouse buttons in gnome? |
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| 21:17.03 | astroman | PLZ HELP ME INSTALL MY UBUNTU FUXORS |
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| 21:17.08 | Vilerage | lol |
| 21:17.12 | Daveman | HAHAHA |
| 21:17.36 | enveezee | astroman: gnaa send you? |
| 21:17.37 | Vilerage | astroman, go get the CD, and, with a hammer, drive it into your CD-ROM as hard as you possibly can.... |
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| 21:17.55 | vekpos | hello! how can i get the pci bus of a pci card? it should be in the format PCI:X:Y:Z |
| 21:18.03 | Vilerage | that should just about get it, if it doesen't, then the drive needs fragmented, use a sledge for that.... |
| 21:18.06 | The_Vulture | vekpos: lspci perhaps |
| 21:18.10 | vekpos | ok |
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| 21:19.27 | Vilerage | heh |
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| 21:20.23 | abrotman | oh .. astroman is pder .. that explains it |
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| 21:20.41 | nykheyn | my java virtual machine start in 7 minutes... too slow :( |
| 21:20.43 | abrotman | and pder is banned |
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| 21:21.29 | remyforbes777 | hello everyone, having problems downloading a new kernel , apt is saying it cant find the package |
| 21:21.32 | enveezee | vekpos: man lspci |
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| 21:21.52 | remyforbes777 | my command is apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 |
| 21:21.53 | vekpos | i already got it! thats all i needet :) |
| 21:21.56 | theD3viL | I read on distrowatch “etch” will come stable - come out? Wtf? is it true? |
| 21:22.00 | enveezee | abrotman: are you still at work? |
| 21:22.02 | sandman | chroots sure just don't seem to ever work well for me |
| 21:22.03 | abrotman | remyforbes777: are you on debian ? |
| 21:22.05 | abrotman | enveezee: yes .. |
| 21:22.07 | remyforbes777 | yep |
| 21:22.17 | sandman | Now I got dchroot -d civclient to work, but when I hit start game it just sits there. |
| 21:22.19 | enveezee | abrotman: do you irc from home? |
| 21:22.28 | abrotman | remyforbes777: sarge ? |
| 21:22.43 | abrotman | enveezee: ? .. you mean to i ssh to home .. and the irc ? .. |
| 21:22.47 | abrotman | err then irc |
| 21:22.49 | sandman | Unlike if I run the non-chroot'd version of it. /home is mount -o bound to /chroot/home, so is tmp |
| 21:22.52 | remyforbes777 | no, i dont think so |
| 21:22.57 | enveezee | abrotman: or something ... |
| 21:23.08 | abrotman | !version |
| 21:23.08 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:23.12 | remyforbes777 | my kernel version is 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 21:23.21 | abrotman | remyforbes777: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 21:23.36 | abrotman | enveezee: no .. i don't have anything open at home |
| 21:23.47 | OleMoudi | My apt is missing a lot of packages in testing, why? should I upgrade to unstable? |
| 21:23.49 | remyforbes777 | testing/unstable |
| 21:23.52 | remyforbes777 | thats what i |
| 21:23.57 | remyforbes777 | thats what it says |
| 21:24.07 | enveezee | abrotman: you seem to be here constantly and have a decent session log |
| 21:24.10 | abrotman | remyforbes777: what kind of CPU ? |
| 21:24.19 | abrotman | enveezee: i have no logs .. why do you say that ? |
| 21:24.22 | remyforbes777 | amd 64 turion |
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| 21:24.35 | remyforbes777 | its on a laptop |
| 21:24.38 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-k8 |
| 21:24.43 | enveezee | abrotman: recalling what you said to me yesturday, or that two nicks are the same person. |
| 21:24.56 | enveezee | I do have logs and I dont recall these things |
| 21:25.16 | remyforbes777 | says it couldnt find package |
| 21:25.32 | remyforbes777 | repositories must not be good |
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| 21:25.39 | abrotman | enveezee: my RAM is non-volatile |
| 21:25.43 | fbi | yo, what's up with this: eth0: ERROR while getting interfaces flags: No such device | Bind socket to interface: No such device |
| 21:25.47 | enveezee | heh |
| 21:25.47 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-get update;apt-get install linux-image-2.6-k8 |
| 21:26.03 | fbi | i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and nothing in my interfaces file changed |
| 21:26.03 | abrotman | oh wait .. that's not it |
| 21:26.29 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-get update;apt-get install linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 |
| 21:26.41 | abrotman | fbi: the driver changed ? |
| 21:26.43 | remyforbes777 | ok, still not working |
| 21:26.49 | enveezee | fbi: what does that have to do with anything :P |
| 21:26.55 | fbi | meh? |
| 21:27.02 | abrotman | !info linux-image-amd64-k8 testing |
| 21:27.04 | fbi | why are you all picking on me |
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| 21:27.10 | abrotman | you're the fbi ? |
| 21:27.15 | Subvertir | hey guys |
| 21:27.18 | fbi | oh. i forgot. |
| 21:27.19 | enveezee | fbi: your interfaces file couldnt change without your permission its a config. other things did though when you told it to dist-upgrade |
| 21:27.20 | abrotman | !info linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 testing |
| 21:27.20 | Subvertir | Finnland is a -real place- |
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| 21:27.23 | Subvertir | people actually live there! |
| 21:27.27 | Subvertir | fwiw |
| 21:27.29 | remyforbes777 | where can i get the latest repositories |
| 21:27.36 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 21:27.44 | fbi | enveezee: so what should i be looking at, never done an upgrade like this |
| 21:27.47 | nykheyn | uhm, how to install video codecs? |
| 21:27.51 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 21:27.51 | dpkg | marillat is probably an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 21:27.52 | enveezee | fbi: now is when you say you are all under arrest, I'm taking all the pr0n on your hard drives |
| 21:27.58 | fbi | haha |
| 21:28.23 | abrotman | !info linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 unstable |
| 21:28.25 | fbi | i'm about ready to throw this box in the garbage, it's not even worth the hassle anymore |
| 21:28.36 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 |
| 21:28.40 | abrotman | wtf is that then .. stupid bot |
| 21:28.43 | fbi | all i wanted to do was be able to listen to some tunes and ssh into my server while i am in my garage |
| 21:28.50 | enveezee | fbi: your kernel was probably changed from 2.2.20 or 2.4.18 to 2.4.27 or 2.5.8 IIRC |
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| 21:29.01 | enveezee | er 2.6.8 |
| 21:29.01 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: is that for me abrotman |
| 21:29.05 | enveezee | -2 |
| 21:29.27 | fbi | enveezee: i upgraded to the sarge 2.6 kernel, the bf24 didn't have a driver for whatever on board sound this piece of crap is using |
| 21:29.29 | Mr-R | enveezee: 0.6.8? :-) |
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| 21:29.49 | astroman | is it safe to replace the ntfsresize binary in debian-installer with the latest statically linked version? |
| 21:29.52 | enveezee | fbi: your interface file not being touched is normal. debian packages cant override configs without being told to. |
| 21:30.16 | enveezee | Mr-R: jyo alo jo mo ma? |
| 21:30.37 | fbi | alright i'll check it out |
| 21:30.43 | Mr-R | enveezee: i just added 2.6.8 and -2 |
| 21:30.51 | enveezee | heh |
| 21:31.41 | Mr-R | enveezee: sorry. its in the evening here right now... no offence |
| 21:32.00 | enveezee | its evening here too |
| 21:32.16 | enveezee | place called earth |
| 21:32.45 | Mr-R | hmpf. 22:32 met |
| 21:32.58 | enveezee | 16:32 |
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| 21:33.15 | enveezee | yay my ntp must be working now on all machines |
| 21:33.31 | astroman | WHY ARE DEBAIN NOT HAVE GRAPHIC? |
| 21:33.40 | enveezee | heh |
| 21:33.44 | The_Vulture | ha. |
| 21:33.50 | resiak | Oh, shut up. |
| 21:33.57 | abrotman | !ops astroman is pder who was banned |
| 21:34.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: astroman is pder who was banned |
| 21:34.01 | sparr | when using alien to convert a rpm, is it generally a good or bad idea to use --scripts ? |
| 21:34.04 | Mr-R | astroman: it does. and quite shiny ones. :) |
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| 21:34.24 | astroman | abrotman: YOU ARE FAT |
| 21:34.28 | lightbright | if anyone wants to copy from one hard drive to another and boot Debian from the new hard drive, use Rsync, not cp, as cp doesnt copy everything properly such as /dev/ and the new hard drive wont boot, give a kernel panick! But with rsync, it copies everything and the new hard drive boots perfect :) |
| 21:34.31 | enveezee | hah |
| 21:34.48 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 21:34.48 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@cpe-65-29-121-33.twmi.res.rr.com] by helix |
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| 21:34.48 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
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| 21:34.53 | abrotman | helix: thank you |
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| 21:35.03 | helix | I actually find pder terribly amusing |
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| 21:35.09 | helix | but I know others do not :) |
| 21:35.17 | enveezee | I can't stop laughing |
| 21:35.40 | enveezee | its so subtle. cant be any worse than that nvz |
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| 21:36.00 | abrotman | i doin't mind .. but he's been banned by some other op |
| 21:36.36 | wireddd | I can't believe that sco's lawyers asked ibm for documents on alinux 2.7 kernel |
| 21:37.01 | enveezee | I can't believe people who arent corporate GNAA read slashdot |
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| 21:37.35 | debian5 | what does this mean?: 64 bytes from www2.vip.ukl.yahoo.com (217.12.3.11): icmp_seq=2 ttl=245 time=29.3 ms (DUP!) |
| 21:37.50 | wireddd | I don't read slashdot |
| 21:38.03 | The_Vulture | debian5: sounds like you got a duplicated response.. |
| 21:38.21 | abrotman | enveezee: that means you ? |
| 21:38.22 | debian5 | how can i fix that? |
| 21:38.48 | psychonate | Can one use replay gain options with vorbis? |
| 21:38.48 | abrotman | ignore it |
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| 21:38.53 | ciscooo | excuse me guys, i have a WiFi connection with a WEP key so while connecting to download pkg it fails what s the solution? |
| 21:38.57 | enveezee | abrotman: .. |
| 21:39.08 | nykheyn | nite all |
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| 21:39.51 | Bedad | hey guys, i was wondering what i should have down as the sources.list for sarge |
| 21:40.16 | enveezee | Bedad: are you upgrading to sarge? |
| 21:40.16 | beardy | Bedad: Aren't you already running sarge? |
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| 21:40.40 | abrotman | arg .. hard questions! |
| 21:40.42 | Bedad | yeh i'm running sarge, but some of the servers aren't working |
| 21:40.46 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 21:41.19 | enveezee | apt-spy |
| 21:41.26 | abrotman | apt-cdrom |
| 21:41.33 | beardy | apt-zip |
| 21:41.42 | beardy | now, is there anyone else? |
| 21:41.42 | enveezee | apt hurt abrotman and beardy |
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| 21:42.15 | Bedad | cool thanks |
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| 21:42.35 | ciscooo | any help pls?!?!? |
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| 21:42.46 | Rawplayer | re |
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| 21:43.19 | beardy | !tell ciscooo about ask |
| 21:43.22 | abrotman | he did |
| 21:43.33 | enveezee | he did ask a question that hurts me to think about |
| 21:43.49 | enveezee | then asked another with lamespeak and ep |
| 21:45.00 | ciscooo | i am installing debian on my laptop. using a wifi connection with WEP key it s failing to connect in order to dl pkgs |
| 21:45.00 | abrotman | !moo |
| 21:45.00 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 21:45.02 | beardy | so he did.. |
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| 21:45.09 | ciscooo | how can i set the wep key in linux? |
| 21:45.18 | un1v4c | Hi! |
| 21:45.19 | un1v4c | what's better - mepis or Debian 3.1 Sarge? |
| 21:45.27 | beardy | !wep |
| 21:45.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, wep is the utterly useless level of encryption that 802.11b uses. it claims to provide 'wired equivalent privacy', but it's as secure as rot13. |
| 21:45.38 | enveezee | un1v4c: its a matter of your own personal opinion |
| 21:45.42 | beardy | un1v4c: Take a guess, or the door. |
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| 21:45.59 | un1v4c | i want better hardware support |
| 21:46.06 | un1v4c | better linux :) |
| 21:46.10 | un1v4c | more programs |
| 21:46.11 | beardy | un1v4c: improve it then |
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| 21:46.21 | un1v4c | beardy: what? |
| 21:46.23 | enveezee | un1v4c: http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://www.debian.org/social_contract http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
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| 21:47.05 | enveezee | un1v4c: this isnt one of those AOL commercials where we keep you from tripping over your shoe laces or walking into a wall. |
| 21:47.20 | enveezee | un1v4c: get debian, try it. when you have a problem, ask a question |
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| 21:47.39 | licued | I have a very simply question that I've yet to have to deal with since I'm using debian |
| 21:47.44 | licued | ...when you download the source of a file... and then you untar it...you have to then install it right? |
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| 21:47.57 | licued | I downloaded via wget btw, not apt |
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| 21:48.14 | beardy | !wayc licued |
| 21:48.15 | dpkg | licued: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 21:48.29 | licued | apt dosen't have a program I need |
| 21:48.32 | licued | vnc2swf |
| 21:48.34 | remyforbes777 | everytime i run an apt-get update i get errors : unable to fetch file cant open debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-i386 |
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| 21:49.19 | licued | so how do I manually install it after download and untaring it? |
| 21:49.20 | beardy | licued: vnc, the protocol? to Shockwave flash? Please explain. |
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| 21:49.22 | aksn | hi |
| 21:49.27 | licued | lol |
| 21:49.33 | licued | I'll explain after I install it :) |
| 21:49.36 | licued | I'm in a rush here |
| 21:49.48 | Bedad | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 21:49.48 | Bedad | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 21:49.57 | aksn | anybody has problems upgrading dictionaries-common (so openoffice also) in debian sid? |
| 21:49.58 | licued | just need to know what to do after you untar it |
| 21:49.59 | beardy | licued: Your choice. |
| 21:50.05 | addNtoX | hi folks |
| 21:50.12 | licued | I'm in the folder, there's a Makefile |
| 21:50.18 | Bedad | APT::Force-LoopBreak option, is that some perl module ? |
| 21:50.20 | apt | okay, Bedad |
| 21:50.20 | licued | and a bunch of .py files |
| 21:50.20 | azeem | beardy: it makes a flash movie out of your actions on the desktop |
| 21:50.28 | beardy | !folder |
| 21:50.29 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
| 21:50.31 | azeem | nice to demonstrate how to do things with a GUI |
| 21:50.34 | abrotman | apt forget ::Force-LoopBreak option, |
| 21:50.35 | apt | i didn't have anything called '::force-loopbreak option,' to forget, abrotman |
| 21:50.37 | beardy | azeem: ok, now why couldn't he said that? |
| 21:50.39 | abrotman | bah .. fuck |
| 21:50.44 | abrotman | apt forget :Force-LoopBreak option, |
| 21:50.44 | apt | i didn't have anything called ':force-loopbreak option,' to forget, abrotman |
| 21:50.47 | azeem | beardy: he is in a rush :) |
| 21:50.48 | abrotman | apt forget Force-LoopBreak option, |
| 21:50.48 | apt | i forgot force-loopbreak option,, abrotman |
| 21:50.52 | beardy | !hurry |
| 21:50.52 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 21:51.18 | Bedad | what is the solution? |
| 21:51.22 | licued | okay |
| 21:51.29 | licued | this is very stupid and imature comments |
| 21:51.31 | Hermann | when making a computer network with windows clients and linux server, it's obvious to use samba, but what do people use in systems with linux clients? |
| 21:51.36 | licued | can someone please help me out with this very quickly? |
| 21:51.38 | aksn | Bedad, apt-get ....... -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 |
| 21:51.50 | beardy | licued: There should be a README, or INSTALL file, read it. |
| 21:51.57 | azeem | licued: is there a setup.py? |
| 21:52.06 | Bedad | thanks aksn |
| 21:52.14 | aksn | Bedad, :-) |
| 21:52.20 | licued | azeem: no there is not |
| 21:52.34 | bucky | Hermann, apt-cache show smbclient |
| 21:52.38 | ciscooo | how can i install the wifi interface including the web key? |
| 21:52.44 | aksn | anybody has problems upgrading dictionaries-common (so openoffice also) in debian sid? |
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| 21:52.47 | licued | maybe it is installed... and this is just where it resides |
| 21:52.51 | azeem | ciscooo: man iwconfig |
| 21:52.51 | licued | but I get the following error: |
| 21:53.02 | beardy | licued: Also, make sure you are either in your users homedirectory, or /usr/local, if you are installing for everyone, as root. |
| 21:53.03 | azeem | ciscooo: or put it into /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:53.06 | licued | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.06 | licued | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.06 | licued | ImportError: No module named Tkinter |
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| 21:53.15 | ciscooo | oki |
| 21:53.16 | azeem | licued: python*-tk |
| 21:53.23 | aksn | anybody has problems upgrading dictionaries-common (so openoffice also) in debian sid? or anybody has upgraded, and didnt get this error? |
| 21:53.37 | licued | but I have python2.4 installed |
| 21:53.47 | Hermann | bucky: I've been thinking samba too, but then there is the problem of different people logging in to the client. NFS can handle permissions, but it feels a bit unsafe |
| 21:53.48 | azeem | licued: and python2.4-tk? |
| 21:53.58 | licued | installing now |
| 21:53.58 | beardy | Hermann: samba |
| 21:54.05 | licued | what's the difference? |
| 21:54.09 | beardy | Hermann: I'd guess. |
| 21:54.12 | azeem | licued: eh? |
| 21:54.17 | azeem | licued: Tk is a python module |
| 21:54.20 | licued | ah |
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| 21:54.27 | azeem | licued: there are dozens of them, they are not all installed by default |
| 21:54.40 | licued | gotchya |
| 21:54.42 | abrotman | !kill kenny |
| 21:54.44 | azeem | licued: moreover, python*-tk is the de facto standard python GUI |
| 21:54.47 | abrotman | sorry .. i couldn't resist |
| 21:54.55 | azeem | at least it was, until pythong-gtk2 became popular, I guess |
| 21:55.06 | enveezee | abrotman: you killed kenny, bastard |
| 21:55.07 | licued | gotchya |
| 21:55.17 | abrotman | wasn't me .. it was dpkg |
| 21:55.43 | kenny | hi, how can i restart(test) fstab without system restart ? |
| 21:55.59 | azeem | kenny: mount -a |
| 21:56.07 | kenny | azeem thank u |
| 21:56.07 | azeem | if I understand you correctly |
| 21:56.11 | enveezee | kenny: /etc/init.d/mountall.sh or mount -a |
| 21:57.24 | enveezee | I put a copy of Supaplex speedfix on a floppy in case I get really bored at work :P |
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| 21:58.05 | enveezee | works good in dosbox |
| 21:58.41 | bucky | Hermann, apt-cache show sfs-server i have it in etch.. haven't used it but there is this and other secure versions of nfs |
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| 21:58.46 | Daveman | heh |
| 21:58.49 | Daveman | hey abrotman |
| 21:59.04 | abrotman | hi |
| 21:59.32 | RvGaTe | Does debian have a limitation on hdd space? becouse it just formatted/partitioned my 260gb drive in 135 gb and 557mb swap... |
| 21:59.42 | enveezee | its not been updated in years but its a freeware download |
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| 22:00.38 | enveezee | I dont think the source was ever open, but there are other supaplex engines out there that work good if not better than the speedfix |
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| 22:05.11 | andreiutz | re all |
| 22:05.34 | evan_d | Is there any way to apt-get source a package from an older release? |
| 22:05.47 | Hermann | bucky: oki thanks |
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| 22:09.03 | abrotman | !moo |
| 22:09.03 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 22:09.25 | dondelelcaro | evan_d: yes; add a deb-src line from that release, and apt-get source it; probably easier just to use wget and dpkg-source -x, though. |
| 22:09.45 | evan_d | ahhh, how did I miss that, thanks! |
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| 22:12.40 | gsnedders | i've got a HD showing up in the BIOS as 73GB, when the real capacity is 82.8GB, when trying to partian it in the installer, it gives me an error. Any chance it's not the actual HD that's dead? |
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| 22:13.41 | mesfet | Hi. I'm installing sarge on a computer with promise SATA300 TX4 card: I have the module sources, but how can I compile the module for the same kernel configuration of the sarge installer? |
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| 22:14.09 | ocelado | kk |
| 22:14.14 | mesfet | I get lots of unresolved symbols, compiling that module for the same kernel version but not same configuration. |
| 22:15.03 | lightbright | does dd work if the destination hard drive is smaller than the source hard drive? |
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| 22:16.30 | samuel | sup all |
| 22:16.45 | samuel | anyone know what file it is to put new window managers in please? |
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| 22:17.48 | mesfet | samuel: you can use .xinitrc on your homedir, or changing it using xdm, gdm or kdm. |
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| 22:18.08 | gsnedders | i've got a HD showing up in the BIOS as 73GB, when the real capacity is 82.8GB, when trying to partian it in the installer, it gives me an error. Any chance it's not the actual HD that's dead? |
| 22:18.45 | samuel | mesfet, yes, thanks, but i want to add it to the list of window managers in gdm |
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| 22:19.45 | pryzbyj | anyone know why debtags in apt is broken? |
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| 22:21.14 | mesfet | samuel: you need to look at /etc/X11, though |
| 22:21.15 | Quistis | ellow |
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| 22:21.51 | Quistis | how can i make a file from /dev/cdrom avalible for samba from /home/public? |
| 22:21.52 | XOrg666 | Samuel, apt-get install gnome-art |
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| 22:22.34 | Kovecses | is there a gnome 2.10 sarge backport? |
| 22:22.44 | lightbright | when I boot, i get this: can't load shpchp FATAL ERROR. WHats that mean? |
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| 22:22.58 | lightbright | Kovecses: you Hungarian? |
| 22:23.03 | Kovecses | lightbright, yes |
| 22:23.19 | lightbright | Kovecses: my mother is also |
| 22:23.24 | Kovecses | lightbright, really? |
| 22:23.30 | lightbright | yes really |
| 22:23.38 | thingfish | Kovecses: not yet...did you check backports.org? That'd be the place to look. |
| 22:23.50 | Quistis | how can i make a file from /dev/cdrom avalible for samba from /home/public? |
| 22:23.51 | justStormY | does anybody know the apt-get pkg name of opera - apt-cache search doens't match |
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| 22:24.05 | lightbright | justStormY: why not use firefox? |
| 22:24.07 | Kovecses | thingfish, yeah...... i'll stick with the older version |
| 22:24.28 | thingfish | justStormY: there is no opera in debian. Opera's website has .debs, though. |
| 22:24.30 | lightbright | justStormY: opera is not there, you would have to dl and compile your own |
| 22:24.44 | XOrg666 | When i boot i get the message: unable to open logs failed! How can i solve that? |
| 22:24.48 | lightbright | justStormY: or get the deb file |
| 22:24.56 | Kovecses | lightbright, whats your moms maiden name? |
| 22:24.59 | lightbright | why use Opera over firefox? |
| 22:25.03 | justStormY | lightbright: im creating a live debian cd and firefox does bring an error on this cd - xml parsing error or something like that |
| 22:25.03 | lightbright | Kovecses: Kosa |
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| 22:25.25 | lightbright | justStormY: you are creating your own live Debin CD? really? |
| 22:25.28 | RvGaTe | Does debian have a limitation on hdd space? becouse it just formatted/partitioned my 260gb drive in 135 gb and 557mb swap... tho in windows it gave me the full 260gb... but in debian it says its only 136gb... |
| 22:25.34 | lightbright | Kovecses: you know about Kosa? |
| 22:25.36 | justStormY | lightbright: yes |
| 22:25.48 | lightbright | justStormY: how do you do that? |
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| 22:26.12 | pjota | hi there, folks |
| 22:26.16 | justStormY | with tool bootcd it is easy - that can do every children ;) |
| 22:26.18 | Kovecses | lightbright, my parents might...... i was born and raised in the states so i dont know alot about hungry |
| 22:26.27 | The_Vulture | RvGaTe: no, perhaps it put the rest of it in other partitions? |
| 22:26.31 | Quistis | how do i make a symlink? |
| 22:26.32 | Kovecses | brb |
| 22:26.35 | Kovecses | ln -s |
| 22:26.39 | lightbright | justStormY: where can I read about and learn bootcd? |
| 22:26.40 | XOrg666 | When i boot i get the message: unable to open logs failed! How can i solve that? |
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| 22:26.48 | lightbright | Kovecses: ok |
| 22:26.52 | pjota | i installed Gnome 2.112, now i can't see the desktop, only the silver screen and cursor after i log in |
| 22:26.59 | justStormY | mh what browsers are also small and good for an debian system - with cookies plz |
| 22:27.08 | lightbright | pjota: was your gnome working before? |
| 22:27.10 | RvGaTe | The_Vulture: its displayes 136gb at the debian installation, the drive is new... and hasn't been used.. yet.. |
| 22:27.29 | Kovecses | pjota, how did you install? |
| 22:27.32 | pjota | my last goodworkin ver. was 2.10 |
| 22:27.35 | The_Vulture | RvGaTe: I haven't done the installer for a while - but where exactly? It might just be showing you the size of some partition[s].. |
| 22:27.37 | Quistis | thx, bye |
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| 22:27.51 | justStormY | lightbright: there is only a small one on the wikipedia page - other docus i doesnt found - but when you've got questions ask me or etorix on kanotix channel |
| 22:27.54 | pjota | i install a precompiled package from linex guys |
| 22:28.05 | thingfish | tsk tsk |
| 22:28.06 | lightbright | justStormY: is bootcd hard to learn for a newbie? |
| 22:28.12 | Kovecses | really they exist for sarge pjota |
| 22:28.20 | XOrg666 | When i boot i get the message: unable to open logs failed! How can i solve that? |
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| 22:28.36 | Deb0r | i just upgraded my kernel and get that error |
| 22:28.38 | justStormY | you should have good linux experience - but than it is no problem |
| 22:28.42 | lightbright | justStormY: so how do you fit whole Debian on one 700mb CD? |
| 22:28.47 | pjota | it's a question, Kovecses? |
| 22:28.55 | Kovecses | pjota, yes |
| 22:28.57 | Deb0r | VFS: cannot open root device "hda1" |
| 22:28.57 | Deb0r | Kernel panic - not syncing VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) |
| 22:29.07 | Kovecses | pjota, could you send me a link |
| 22:29.11 | thingfish | Kovecses: what exists for sarge? |
| 22:29.16 | XOrg666 | When i boot i get the message: unable to open logs failed! How can i solve that? |
| 22:29.17 | abrotman | Deb0r: why did you compile your own kernel ? |
| 22:29.23 | justStormY | my live cd is at the moment 370 mb with xfce,webmin and serval servers (dchp,samba,...) |
| 22:29.26 | abrotman | !bootcd |
| 22:29.30 | lightbright | Deb0r: was your system working before you updated the kernel? |
| 22:29.41 | Deb0r | yeah but i was 2.4 kernel |
| 22:29.44 | pjota | hre is -> http://www.esdebian.org/article.php?story=20051008112717797&mode=print |
| 22:29.44 | Deb0r | need 2.6.14 |
| 22:29.54 | Deb0r | got sata + raid and such thingsa |
| 22:29.55 | lightbright | pjota: so why did you upgrade something that was worjking? if its not broken, dont fix it :) |
| 22:29.59 | pjota | if you know some spanish... |
| 22:30.00 | XxX | hello, as he is the user and as the group? |
| 22:30.03 | Kovecses | pjota, ty |
| 22:30.04 | lightbright | Deb0r: so why did you upgrade something that was working? if its not broken, dont fix it :) |
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| 22:30.10 | RvGaTe | The_Vulture: i cant really tell where... its at the place where you choose how to partition your drive, it says the drive has a total space of 136 gb |
| 22:30.15 | XxX | chown ffff:lll /home/nuevo_usuario |
| 22:30.18 | thingfish | como se dice "roof" en espanol... |
| 22:30.18 | abrotman | justStormY: if you're using xfce .. epiphany? .. galeon? (maybe static opera?) |
| 22:30.19 | Deb0r | lol comon |
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| 22:30.23 | lightbright | pjota: hola |
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| 22:30.31 | abrotman | Deb0r: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6 |
| 22:30.37 | aksn | thingfish, tejado? |
| 22:30.39 | The_Vulture | RvGaTe: odd.. not sure what to suggest to explain/rectify that.. |
| 22:30.45 | thingfish | thank you aksn |
| 22:30.49 | abrotman | !es |
| 22:30.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:30.49 | pjota | hola lightbright, alguna idea sobre mi problema con Gnome 2.12 en Sarge? |
| 22:31.04 | aksn | thingfish, ;-) |
| 22:31.05 | RvGaTe | The_Vulture: to double check it, i partitioned it, removed the disk, putted it inside the windows machine, and it gave me 2 partitions on that drive, 135gb and 556mb |
| 22:31.10 | lightbright | pjota: thats all I know |
| 22:31.11 | abrotman | pjota: english aqui .. /join #debian-es |
| 22:31.31 | justStormY | abrotman: i will see, thx |
| 22:31.47 | abrotman | justStormY: or check at packages.debian.org |
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| 22:32.00 | thingfish | pjota: I think you're screwed. |
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| 22:32.09 | lightbright | justStormY: so how do you fit whole Debian on one 700mb CD? |
| 22:32.20 | rr72 | how can i use apt-get to get a new kernel? i forgot |
| 22:32.28 | pjota | Kovecses, you saw something interesant in the link i pasted? |
| 22:32.32 | TiMiDo | rr72 apt-get install kernel-image |
| 22:32.40 | Kovecses | pjota, yes |
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| 22:32.51 | lightbright | justStormY: have you got a step by step guide so I can create a Debian liveCD with xfce etc like you? |
| 22:32.54 | Kovecses | im trying to decide on sarge or etch |
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| 22:33.00 | rr72 | than the number right TiMiDo? |
| 22:33.07 | TiMiDo | yes |
| 22:33.19 | lightbright | Kovecses: are you very experienced in Debian and Linux? if not, go for Sarge |
| 22:33.20 | pjota | etch is for test? |
| 22:33.36 | Kovecses | im experienced |
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| 22:33.52 | thingfish | I played with things from etch and unstable, although mostly from etch - and I won't again, went back to pure sarge yesterday after having a hard lockup. |
| 22:33.56 | Kovecses | ive used etch |
| 22:34.11 | ecobit | why is ~/.mailcap being ignored? |
| 22:34.14 | lightbright | justStormY: how can I create a basic debian with xfce? |
| 22:34.17 | rr72 | can i get 2.6.14 for sarg or no TiMiDo? |
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| 22:34.30 | justStormY | lightbright: not yet - that is a project - till january i will have one ;) |
| 22:34.33 | TiMiDo | rr72 apt-cache search kernel-image and picked the kernel |
| 22:34.38 | Kovecses | !k3b ethc |
| 22:34.39 | lightbright | thingfish: yeah, no need for a heartattack :) stick with Sarge :) |
| 22:34.42 | Kovecses | !k3b etch |
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| 22:34.48 | TiMiDo | !info k3b etch |
| 22:34.57 | rr72 | its not there |
| 22:34.59 | TiMiDo | *dpkg* Package 'k3b' does not exist. |
| 22:35.05 | Kovecses | damn |
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| 22:35.14 | lightbright | justStormY: I created a perfect copy too unto another hard drive, and if anythning breaks, I boot into the other hard drive and copy everything across again and boot |
| 22:35.18 | justStormY | lightbright: download debian netinst, install it, than load with apt-get the x-packages and xfce |
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| 22:35.22 | rr72 | and i need .14 for a module |
| 22:35.35 | lightbright | justStormY: whats netinst? |
| 22:35.38 | beardy | ~tell MatiasM -about root |
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| 22:36.19 | lightbright | thingfish: for safety reasons and so I dont have to reinstall Debian, I created a perfect copy too unto another hard drive, and if anythning breaks, I boot into the other hard drive and copy everything across again and boot |
| 22:36.25 | ecobit | dpkg -S /etc/mailcap "dpkg: /etc/mailcap not found." && ~/.mailcap is being ignored by mutt at least. |
| 22:36.26 | dpkg | You Fool! /etc/mailcap "dpkg: /etc/mailcap not found." && ~/.mailcap is being ignored by mutt at least. is installed! |
| 22:36.38 | justStormY | lightbright:http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 22:36.43 | samuel | anyone recommend a light/fast window manager? |
| 22:36.47 | Kovecses | fluxbox |
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| 22:36.55 | rr72 | iceWM |
| 22:37.00 | dondelelcaro | openbox, ratpoison... |
| 22:37.04 | thingfish | lightbright: nice. I have a separate hard drive that I keep everything backed up to, so a reinstall is really not that much of an ordeal. |
| 22:37.08 | Kovecses | yeah .......... fluxbox or icewm |
| 22:37.14 | Phated | Openbox. |
| 22:37.20 | rr72 | just plain x wont do it samuel? |
| 22:37.34 | rr72 | TiMiDo~ i can still do it by hand par say right? |
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| 22:37.49 | deadcat | openbox eh |
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| 22:37.59 | samuel | thanks |
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| 22:38.09 | deadcat | !start a holy war |
| 22:38.09 | dpkg | Balrogs have wings! |
| 22:38.13 | lightbright | thingfish: yeah, it my Debian breaks, I simply boot into my other backed up hard drive, and then copy everything over again using rsync,. and im up and running again in 10mins as if Debian never broke :) |
| 22:38.19 | lightbright | it = if |
| 22:38.31 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | heh :) how to unlock dselect ?!? |
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| 22:38.50 | beardy | AuReUs_ReCtoR: unlock? |
| 22:38.52 | doug_ | is afterstep the wm with the most eye candy |
| 22:38.56 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: hello, good to see you again |
| 22:39.23 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | yeah, i try to access and he tell me: dselect: the access method area is already locked |
| 22:39.37 | ecobit | oh this is great. i fire up lynx and get "desc=microsoft D)ownload, or C)ancel" |
| 22:39.49 | rr72 | hehe |
| 22:39.53 | rr72 | hm |
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| 22:40.42 | rr72 | why wouldnt sarge have the new kernels available |
| 22:40.46 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | and? :) |
| 22:40.49 | lightbright | dondelelcaro: whenever I load Debian, I get this: Fatal errror: can't load shpchp! Can I safely ignore this, as Debian then seems to boot normally anyway? |
| 22:40.50 | doug_ | do it by hand par say right? |
| 22:40.50 | doug_ | -:- wetlettuce [n=mark@tigger.wetlettuce.com] has left #debian [] |
| 22:40.50 | doug_ | -:- SignOff jor: #debian ("quit") |
| 22:40.50 | doug_ | <deadcat> openbox eh |
| 22:40.51 | doug_ | -:- SignOff SlayerXP: #debian (Success) |
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| 22:41.39 | lightbright | justStormY: may I pm you and ask you something about Debian liveCD? |
| 22:41.39 | ecobit | i wonder if something is totally screwed up with the latest lynx in sid. does anyone else have this problem? |
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| 22:41.58 | doug_ | sorry about that |
| 22:42.01 | deadcat | no |
| 22:42.23 | Geekbr | sameone from brasil ?? |
| 22:42.30 | deadcat | no |
| 22:42.31 | pjota | !bra |
| 22:42.31 | justStormY | lightbright: no prob - but soon i will go to bed |
| 22:42.34 | rr72 | so just DL it and read the README? |
| 22:42.34 | thingfish | Geekbr: try #debian-br |
| 22:42.39 | Geekbr | nops |
| 22:42.43 | pjota | no !bra chanel XD |
| 22:42.45 | ecobit | any sid users out there, could you fire up lynx and tell me if it says "desc=microsoft D)ownload, or C)ancel" ? |
| 22:42.47 | Geekbr | just to show same pics |
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| 22:43.00 | Geekbr | a linux fest |
| 22:43.06 | Geekbr | www.geekbr.com.br |
| 22:43.07 | Daveman | heh |
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| 22:43.33 | thingfish | <sigh> |
| 22:43.35 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | pls. help me ;)) |
| 22:44.14 | beardy | !pls |
| 22:44.14 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
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| 22:44.31 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | :))) |
| 22:44.37 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | sorry ;))) |
| 22:44.43 | ecobit | man, where are all the helpful people on this #chan? |
| 22:44.57 | beardy | ecobit: In #chan, join it. |
| 22:45.02 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ;)) |
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| 22:45.56 | ecobit | maybe its the downturn in the economy |
| 22:46.29 | ecobit | AuReUs_ReCtoR: i /ignore people with long, pretentious nicks |
| 22:46.49 | deadcat | ecobit: agreed. long as in more than 8? (= |
| 22:46.51 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | why? |
| 22:46.58 | rector | hm |
| 22:47.00 | stew | ecobit: what command line did you use for lynx? |
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| 22:47.26 | stew | ecobit: it looks to me like you gave it something that it did a google "i'm feeling lucky" search for and you ended up on microsoft.com |
| 22:47.28 | adioe3 | does anybody know any good graphing programs (I need it for my math project)??? |
| 22:47.29 | deadcat | ecobit: just the ones the []` thing |
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| 22:48.13 | ecobit | stew: lynx |
| 22:48.16 | stew | ecobit: for instace, if you fire up firefox, and just put "http" in the location bar and hit enter, you end up on microsoft.com |
| 22:48.30 | beardy | stew: what the hell for? |
| 22:48.48 | stew | beardy: they are the top result on google for "http" |
| 22:48.59 | beardy | stew: fuck.. |
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| 22:49.31 | stew | ecobit: and lynx isn't aliased? |
| 22:49.32 | ecobit | stew: i just type "lynx" in a console. i deleted ~/lynxrc |
| 22:49.47 | psychonate | Damn, I can't get vorbisgain to work within grip. It doesn't seem to run as a filter command. |
| 22:49.59 | ecobit | stew: yes via alternatives to /usr/bin/lynx.stable |
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| 22:51.56 | beardy | Google say "Do no evil" don't they? Having microsoft.com as top result for "http" is pure evil.. or just plain stupid, depending on how you look at things. |
| 22:52.08 | stew | ecobit: anyway it doesn't happen on any of my machines here. tcpdump it or something and see if its coming up with microsoft is the result of a web search |
| 22:52.09 | ecobit | aha |
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| 22:52.16 | ecobit | i commented out startfile in lynx.cfg |
| 22:52.55 | ecobit | now it starts |
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| 22:56.04 | ratonn | If binary file apache is already running and I execute ps ax | grep httpd | apache accidentally, am I in trouble? |
| 22:56.32 | ratonn | I'm using a shell ot connect to my server and an immediate reboot after that command has left me with no access. |
| 22:56.40 | ratonn | Could it be checking the FS? |
| 22:57.24 | dondelelcaro | ratonn: first off, why would you reboot after that? the apache there won't even start. |
| 22:57.25 | thingfish | I don't see how ps or your command could've caused any harm. |
| 22:57.38 | virgomoon | I have what might be a silly question ... I use dselect to install new packages .. I went to select something (I forget what) and it came back with a LOT of other things it wanted to install .. how do I clear this "flagged to install" list? |
| 22:57.46 | dondelelcaro | ratonn: secondly, it depends on what is going on with the machine; check the console. |
| 22:58.00 | pjota | "Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init" at last, i crash it all? |
| 22:58.38 | dondelelcaro | pjota: uh... you've killed off init. |
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| 22:59.05 | jbroome | you bastard! |
| 22:59.05 | pjota | i only delete some packages from dselect |
| 22:59.07 | beardy | virgomoon: Unselect the thing that depends on all those packages. Have a look at aptitude, if you are not familiar with it, or aren't aware of it's existence. Much nicer that dselect. |
| 22:59.16 | beardy | than |
| 22:59.18 | ratonn | dondelcaro: it said it failed to load a Module though, not that it failed to load apache |
| 22:59.30 | dondelelcaro | ratonn: which it will... |
| 22:59.43 | virgomoon | beardy: damn, now I gotta remember what that was .. I'll look at aptitude as well |
| 22:59.51 | virgomoon | beardy: thanks |
| 22:59.57 | pjota | what can i do to recover init? |
| 22:59.58 | ratonn | dondelelcaro: when i panic i always reboot |
| 23:00.03 | Rawplayer | fp |
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| 23:00.09 | dondelelcaro | ratonn: you shouldn't ever reboot. This isn't windows. |
| 23:00.17 | beardy | Rawplayer: Don't panic. |
| 23:00.32 | lightbright | is xfce4 woth looking at? atm, im using KDE |
| 23:00.36 | liable | hard habit to get people out of :) |
| 23:00.39 | beardy | ratonn: Don't panic. |
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| 23:00.46 | liable | lightbright: yeah its ok. |
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| 23:00.56 | lightbright | liable: ok, ill try it |
| 23:01.03 | lightbright | keikoz: night |
| 23:01.07 | deadcat | anyone know if its ok to upgrade osx from 10.2 to 10.4 without delete data? |
| 23:01.14 | ratonn | I started this reboot thing when I modified httpd.conf |
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| 23:01.36 | streuner | deadcat: there is a channel here in freenode |
| 23:01.38 | beardy | deadcat: The people in #osx perhaps? |
| 23:01.41 | ratonn | For some reason debian would override ulimit if it started the daemon at boot but would obey it if i started it i nshell |
| 23:01.42 | lightbright | liable: if i type "apt-get install xfce4" will it then be an option to boot into xfce at the gnome menu I get at boot time? |
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| 23:01.48 | pjota | "Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init" at last, i crash it all? Some solution to recover init? |
| 23:01.56 | deadcat | beardy: thanks |
| 23:02.03 | dondelelcaro | pjota: at that point you need to reboot. |
| 23:02.06 | deadcat | beardy: aint nobody there. |
| 23:02.14 | deadcat | streuner: whats the channel? |
| 23:02.17 | liable | lightbright: yep, you might want some extra packages though. |
| 23:02.27 | streuner | deadcat: beardy already told you |
| 23:02.28 | pjota | i reboot it twice... the same error |
| 23:02.35 | liable | pjota: you compile a kernel? |
| 23:02.40 | beardy | deadcat: Ok, I just guessed. #macosx perhaps then? |
| 23:02.45 | lightbright | liable: ok |
| 23:02.57 | deadcat | beardy: there (= |
| 23:03.03 | ratonn | Any reason for that? |
| 23:03.03 | pjota | no, i deleted some packages from dselect after the Kernel panic |
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| 23:04.22 | streuner | deadcat: #macosx - 165 users |
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| 23:06.57 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | dselect: the access method area is already locked |
| 23:07.01 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | Press <enter> to continue. |
| 23:07.05 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | how to unlock this? :) |
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| 23:08.26 | jeff___ | anyone framiliar with the vlc plugin for firefox? |
| 23:09.53 | ecobit | what package provides /etc/mailcap ? |
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| 23:11.08 | corp-mule | how do I stop the box from booting up to the X login thing? |
| 23:11.17 | corp-mule | I just wanna boot to comand line and run X from there. |
| 23:11.24 | adioe3 | Q: How do I install a Fortran compiler? |
| 23:11.24 | liable | remove the dm |
| 23:11.25 | OleMoudi | what's with missing packages in apt testing ? |
| 23:11.29 | jeff___ | remove /etc/rc2.d/s**xdm |
| 23:11.44 | OleMoudi | what happened? |
| 23:11.48 | corp-mule | thx |
| 23:11.59 | jeff___ | corp-mule: well, most likely rc2.d |
| 23:12.00 | liable | ecobit: /msg dpkg search |
| 23:12.09 | jeff___ | corp-mule: depending on what runlevel you are on |
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| 23:12.38 | corp-mule | I'll do a find ... |
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| 23:13.26 | corp-mule | heheh, it's in all of 2,3.4 and 5 |
| 23:13.31 | corp-mule | 3 is mulit user right? |
| 23:13.45 | jeff___ | corp-mule: 2 is default |
| 23:14.09 | corp-mule | if I change them all to K that should do eh? |
| 23:14.23 | jeff___ | corp-mule: dont unless you have to |
| 23:14.57 | corp-mule | just rc2? |
| 23:15.07 | jeff___ | corp-mule: one sec |
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| 23:15.59 | corp-mule | the strangest thing happened just a minute ago. |
| 23:16.13 | corp-mule | the box was locked up (xscreensaver I guess). |
| 23:16.19 | corp-mule | had to reset it |
| 23:16.34 | corp-mule | when it came back up ... it was acting all goofy |
| 23:16.35 | gravity | woo xscreensaver |
| 23:16.41 | corp-mule | some apps wouldn't run |
| 23:16.54 | corp-mule | some crashed saying it was a segmentation fault |
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| 23:17.08 | Strogg | oops. |
| 23:17.11 | corp-mule | so I used shutdwon -r now to reboot and now it seems to be okay |
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| 23:17.23 | jeff___ | corp-mule: boot to the command line? |
| 23:17.30 | corp-mule | no |
| 23:17.37 | gravity | Well, it's working now or else I would have suggested fsck |
| 23:17.39 | corp-mule | it still wants to do the X login |
| 23:17.46 | corp-mule | but I want to do command line |
| 23:17.48 | zufar | could have just restarted x |
| 23:17.49 | jeff___ | corp-mule: what is your x server |
| 23:17.55 | corp-mule | I can't remember how to do that. |
| 23:18.06 | ruied | how can I see what groups does a user belongs? (without going to /etc/group) |
| 23:18.07 | corp-mule | uh .... |
| 23:18.08 | beardy | Cope: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F6 |
| 23:18.25 | jeff___ | corp-mule: go to /etc/rc2.d |
| 23:18.26 | liable | ruied: groups |
| 23:18.30 | gravity | !nodm |
| 23:18.30 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 23:18.34 | corp-mule | how can I tell what my xserver is? |
| 23:18.40 | corp-mule | I'm in rc2 |
| 23:19.00 | jeff___ | corp-mule: whatever you installed |
| 23:19.01 | ruied | liable: thanks |
| 23:19.02 | streuner | corp-mule: dpkg -l xserver-xorg |
| 23:19.04 | gravity | corp-mule: Just do what dpkg said above. You can just do the echo "false" bit |
| 23:19.09 | gravity | X -version is faster |
| 23:19.12 | gravity | But that doesn't matter |
| 23:19.18 | beardy | "temporary solution"? It's the real and sane solution. |
| 23:19.27 | corp-mule | okay thx |
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| 23:20.19 | corp-mule | XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 20050601051219 fabbione@fabbione.net) |
| 23:20.21 | corp-mule | ? |
| 23:20.29 | streuner | xfree |
| 23:20.37 | streuner | 6.8.x would be xorg |
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| 23:20.43 | gravity | What does that matter? He just needs to get rid of his *dm |
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| 23:20.50 | streuner | heh :-) |
| 23:21.02 | jeff___ | whats wrong with removing the symlink |
| 23:21.04 | streuner | you just told him, don't you? :-) |
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| 23:21.22 | ruied | how can I set a user, so when it creates a file, that file belongs to the group "XPTO" ? |
| 23:21.23 | gsnedders | does netatalk use the system users? |
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| 23:21.31 | ruied | by default |
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| 23:21.44 | corp-mule | aight, so I'll just use aptitude to remove xdm. |
| 23:22.50 | gravity | It would make life so much easier |
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| 23:23.03 | mtnman | jeff___: if you just remove the symlink, then next time the package is upgraded, the symlink is recreated. |
| 23:23.07 | corp-mule | uh ... aptitude says x-window-system depends on xdm! |
| 23:23.19 | gravity | corp-mule: Just do the echo false thingy |
| 23:23.19 | streuner | hm |
| 23:23.20 | liable | thats a meta package |
| 23:23.28 | gsnedders | whenever I try to use locate I get "locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory" |
| 23:23.38 | corp-mule | echo false thingy ... lemme scroll up a bit :) |
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| 23:23.54 | mtnman | gsnedders: try running updatedb |
| 23:23.58 | gravity | corp-mule: echo "false" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 23:24.18 | Cope | beardy: :) |
| 23:24.52 | gsnedders | mtnman: thanks :) |
| 23:24.56 | jeff___ | mtnman: touche |
| 23:25.10 | corp-mule | I got it from above, but thanks for re pasting. |
| 23:25.22 | mtnman | corp-mule: once you have X installed, you can safely remove the dummy package x-window-system. then the dependency on xdm will go away. |
| 23:25.29 | gravity | Not for aptitude |
| 23:25.38 | gravity | aptitude will remove the rest of X |
| 23:25.48 | corp-mule | ah, okay. |
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| 23:25.50 | gravity | So it's better just to do the echo "false" thing |
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| 23:26.08 | mtnman | gravity: i would recommend getting rid of xdm, esp if you don't want to use it. |
| 23:26.09 | jeff___ | anyone framiliar with vlc? |
| 23:26.19 | gravity | mtnman: It doesn't really matter |
| 23:26.29 | dylanre | Will debian run on 64 bit ppc machines? |
| 23:26.37 | mtnman | gravity: if you say so. |
| 23:26.40 | streuner | jeff___: what's hard to install a vlc plugin? |
| 23:27.09 | jeff___ | streuner: nothing, but the sound doesnt stream correctly/at all |
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| 23:27.36 | gravity | mtnman: The manual cost of removing the metapackage outweighs the risk of having it but not running it |
| 23:27.45 | corp-mule | okay I did the echo thingy. I'm leaving to try it out. brb. ... and thx again. |
| 23:27.50 | streuner | jeff___: debian package? what version of debian are you running? |
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| 23:27.58 | gsnedders | how do you get the CPU tempreture in debian? |
| 23:27.59 | jeff___ | streuner: sarge |
| 23:28.05 | streuner | oh |
| 23:28.22 | streuner | gsnedders: apt-get install mbmon |
| 23:28.24 | stew | gsnedders: if you mb supports acpi: apt-get install acpid acpi ; modprobe thermal ; acpi -V |
| 23:28.25 | mtnman | gravity: that is a decision you have made based on your own preferences. mine is to not install stuff i don't want to use. |
| 23:28.39 | gravity | He can change things later |
| 23:28.53 | mtnman | gravity: that is obvious. |
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| 23:29.02 | gravity | mtnman: And also critical |
| 23:29.04 | gsnedders | ouch.... getting hot |
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| 23:29.14 | gsnedders | thanks |
| 23:29.34 | YGingras_ | hi, is there a way to tell find to do the command passed to -exec in the background? |
| 23:29.53 | jeff___ | streuner: any ideas? |
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| 23:30.28 | jeff___ | streuner: i also dloaded the alsa lib for it seperately |
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| 23:31.11 | streuner | jeff___: mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC ? |
| 23:31.19 | jeff___ | streuner: mhmm |
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| 23:31.51 | samy | salve a tutti |
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| 23:32.32 | streuner | jeff___: give us more infos about, we can't help if you saying almost nothing... |
| 23:32.41 | samy | volevo farvi una domanda (visto che in rete non ho trovato informazioni) ma per il sempron il kernel migliore qual'è? il k7? |
| 23:32.46 | streuner | !it |
| 23:32.46 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 23:32.50 | iLLf8d | anyone how the intel ipw2200 or ipw2915 work in linux? |
| 23:33.08 | jeff___ | streuner: see, i really dont have that much info...ive stuck with dillo and konqueror prior to this |
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| 23:33.30 | jeff___ | streuner: vls plays video fine, but when run as a plugin, the sound doesnt work properl;y |
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| 23:34.53 | streuner | jeff___: http://www.videolan.org/support/ |
| 23:35.04 | streuner | jeff___: subsribe to their ML |
| 23:35.04 | sparr | i want to find *.txt under the current directory and zip each file into *.txt.zip. i cant figure out how to do it with find -exec, find | args, or a sh for loop. how should i do it? |
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| 23:35.19 | streuner | jeff___: for users - they should be know it better |
| 23:35.21 | corp-mule | that worked. |
| 23:35.29 | jeff___ | streuner: thanks |
| 23:35.45 | streuner | jeff___: or /j #videolan |
| 23:35.53 | stew | sparr: each .txt goes into its own *.txt.zip? |
| 23:36.05 | jeff___ | streuner: wasnt aware that they had a channel, thanks |
| 23:37.00 | sparr | stew: yes |
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| 23:37.19 | Guerin | stew: for file in *.txt; do zip $file.zip $file; done |
| 23:37.23 | Guerin | sparr: |
| 23:37.44 | sparr | Guerin: subdirectories |
| 23:38.01 | Guerin | sparr: easily enough done with find; the same principles apply directly |
| 23:38.43 | ruied | how to add user "bot-backup" to group "backups" ? |
| 23:39.00 | Guerin | ruied: adduser bot-backup backups |
| 23:39.24 | ruied | ok, I was trying with -g, it didn't work out.... thanks |
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| 23:39.48 | liable | ruied: if you had removed 4 words out of that sentence, you had your command ;0 |
| 23:40.04 | corp-mule | is xscreensaver known to cause crashes? |
| 23:40.13 | corp-mule | or system lockups? |
| 23:40.14 | sparr | nm, got it, thanks |
| 23:40.21 | gravity | corp-mule: Yes |
| 23:40.27 | corp-mule | hmm |
| 23:40.30 | gravity | corp-mule: If you get rid of the gl screensavers, it's far more sturdy |
| 23:40.39 | corp-mule | I have a 3dfx pci (16MB) video card |
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| 23:40.48 | adioe3 | Q: How do I install the g77 compiler? |
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| 23:41.54 | corp-mule | you'd think that with 2Ghz proc and 1G of RAM and a 16MB video card .... you wouldn't have that trouble. (with xscreensaver.) |
| 23:42.05 | gravity | Don't ask |
| 23:42.09 | corp-mule | :) |
| 23:42.17 | streuner | hehe |
| 23:42.38 | corp-mule | is there an alternative screen saver proggy? |
| 23:42.43 | gravity | Just don't use the GL ones |
| 23:42.44 | gravity | Geez |
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| 23:42.52 | corp-mule | well okay then |
| 23:42.55 | corp-mule | :) |
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| 23:43.16 | corp-mule | I guess I'll look at it to see which ones are GL |
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| 23:43.39 | streuner | its usually in the package name itself, IIRC |
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| 23:44.18 | gravity | corp-mule: Try finding the package named "xscreensaver-gl". Then try removing that package. |
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| 23:45.04 | corp-mule | thx |
| 23:45.46 | nceterval | Hello, I'm thinking of installing Debian from one of the daily built Testing branch netinst CDs. Once installed, can I safely dist-upgrade to unstable? Also, will I have x.org or XF86 with that? |
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| 23:46.09 | thingfish | just don't even mess with anything but sarge. |
| 23:46.16 | streuner | nceterval: for your first question /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 23:46.45 | streuner | nceterval: for your second one, you can use both, xfree or xorg |
| 23:46.47 | thingfish | I mean, the other stuff is attractive because it's newer versions, but it'll break on you and you'll have to chase down bugs and that gets old unless you're young. |
| 23:47.12 | gravity | Er... |
| 23:47.24 | YGingras_ | do I need to open any ports on the nfs clients ? |
| 23:47.24 | gravity | You definitely can't use both |
| 23:47.34 | streuner | as backport! |
| 23:47.36 | thingfish | I've learned that. |
| 23:47.43 | gravity | Ah, right |
| 23:47.51 | Guerin | streuner: by that logic you can use 3.3 |
| 23:48.03 | nceterval | thingfish: I used unstable in the past and found it to be quite... stable. Is it in a state of disrepair at the moment due to the release of Sarge, or something? |
| 23:48.11 | thingfish | I tried using gnome and a kernel and xorg from etch with sarge, and it was just not to my liking. I want something that works. |
| 23:48.22 | streuner | Guerin: 3.3 as debian version? :-) |
| 23:48.24 | Guerin | nceterval: it's back to normal since the sarge release |
| 23:48.33 | Guerin | streuner: xfree86 version, yo. |
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| 23:48.48 | thingfish | nceterval: I don't know, I don't care - unstable is fine for the adventuresome, but I'm perfectly happy with sarge. |
| 23:48.56 | nceterval | Guerin: So would you disagree with thingfish? |
| 23:49.16 | thingfish | I'd used unstable fine in the past too - sure, it works fine, until one day - kaboom! |
| 23:49.21 | Guerin | nceterval: my statement doesn't disagree with his. |
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| 23:50.42 | eeyore- | quick question about sata-ii ... can i plug sata drive into sata-ii headers on, say, nforce4 motherboard? is the cable/connector compatible? on a related note, how's nforce4 support under linux anyway? stable? |
| 23:50.43 | klync | hey all.... /dev/input/mice has perms 0660 and group root, but i checked /etc/udev/permissions.rules, which seems to me should assign it 664 and group video... any ideas? |
| 23:50.44 | streuner | If you find someone who recommend unstable for someone who asking like "Also, will I have x.org or XF86 with that?" - let us know ... :-) |
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| 23:50.56 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:50.59 | streuner | in #debian* |
| 23:51.05 | nceterval | Alright. Thanks for the help, guys. |
| 23:51.13 | remyforbes777 | whats a good dvd player software |
| 23:51.20 | thingfish | totem! |
| 23:51.27 | gravity | totem rocks |
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| 23:51.31 | thingfish | it does |
| 23:51.34 | remyforbes777 | you talking to me thingfish? |
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| 23:51.37 | thingfish | sure |
| 23:51.37 | remyforbes777 | totem? |
| 23:51.41 | remyforbes777 | ok |
| 23:51.43 | thingfish | yes, remyforbes777 |
| 23:51.47 | remyforbes777 | thingfish: thanks |
| 23:51.50 | BucWheat | hello all i can't resolve dns names i.e. www.yahoo.com what did i miss in my dhcpd.conf file? |
| 23:51.59 | BucWheat | when i ping www.yahoo.com i get unreachable |
| 23:52.04 | thingfish | it's pretty much good for all your multimedia needs. |
| 23:52.17 | BucWheat | i know my internet connection works because i'm using it from another machine to be on irc |
| 23:52.18 | BucWheat | :) |
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| 23:52.24 | klync | BucWheat: so when it says "pinging..." it gives a number back? |
| 23:52.26 | BucWheat | what other conf file do i need to check? |
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| 23:52.30 | BucWheat | klync no |
| 23:52.58 | BucWheat | ping www.yahoo.com |
| 23:52.58 | BucWheat | ping: unknown host www.yahoo.com |
| 23:53.09 | klync | BucWheat: oh, that's not "unreachable" :-/ |
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| 23:53.19 | Squarepants | how can i set the pc to shutdown when the power button is pressed? |
| 23:53.45 | klync | BucWheat: does your /etc/resolv.conf have a nameserver line? dhcpcd should've wrote one |
| 23:53.59 | BucWheat | search |
| 23:53.59 | BucWheat | nameserver 192.168.2.1 |
| 23:54.08 | BucWheat | klync that is my router |
| 23:54.10 | klync | BucWheat: oh, are you setting up a dhcp server? |
| 23:54.13 | gsnedders | anybody able to help me out with netatalk? |
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| 23:55.05 | klync | BucWheat: dhcpd.conf would be for the server daemon, by default, debian clients use /etc/dhclient.conf and /sbin/dhclient |
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| 23:55.25 | liable | Squarepants: you need a script in /etc/acpi |
| 23:55.45 | BucWheat | klync k looking there now |
| 23:55.54 | Deb0r | can anybody takes a litle bit of his time to check whats wrong with my kernel settings? |
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| 23:56.25 | streuner | Deb0r: what's wrong with an official debian kernel? |
| 23:56.25 | klync | BucWheat: if you've got your router in as a nameserver, most are able to proxy the dns requests just fine.... |
| 23:56.42 | remyforbes777 | totem not working right getting libdvdnav: unable to find map file '/home/remyforbes777/.dvdnav |
| 23:56.44 | klync | but if you can ping your router by ip, try looking up a hostname using host or dig |
| 23:56.48 | klync | BucWheat: ^^ |
| 23:56.48 | remyforbes777 | any suggestions |
| 23:56.50 | BucWheat | klync that is what i thought but for some reason i can't get out of LAN from debian box |
| 23:56.50 | oKtosiTe | I have just acquired a 200GB harddisk, and want to move my system from my old 20 GB disk to this new one. What would be the best way to go at this? |
| 23:56.55 | gravity | I really should build a custom kernel one of these days. I haven't done it since 2.4 |
| 23:57.36 | klync | oKtosiTe: boot from a cd, copy, unplug the old drive (but don't erase!), fix your mbr, and reboot from the new disk |
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| 23:57.57 | citral | no, 2.6.12 debian kernel has a bug with initrd |
| 23:58.04 | Squarepants | liable> what script? |
| 23:58.20 | peng | hi there ... anybody knows why mp3 encoded with lame on linx play slowly on windows? |
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| 23:58.28 | klync | can someone explain what i'm missing with udev where my devices in /dev/input/ don't get the mode specified in /etc/udev/permissions.rules? |
| 23:58.30 | stew | citral: what bug? |
| 23:58.35 | oKtosiTe | klync: copy as in "cat /dev/hdX > /dev/hdY"? |
| 23:58.39 | streuner | Linux version 2.6.9-1-k7 (dilinger@toaster.hq.voxel.net) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2)) #1 Thu Nov 25 03:20:07 EST 2004 |
| 23:58.45 | corp-mule | well, well. It must be something else. xscreensaver-gl isn't installed on my system. I've got some detective work to do :) |
| 23:58.51 | klync | oKtosiTe: no... |
| 23:59.25 | streuner | citral: :-P |
| 23:59.28 | citral | stew: loads every ide module at boot time |
| 23:59.41 | klync | oKtosiTe: partition your new drive using fdisk, then, what i do is mkdir /mnt/newsys; mkdir /mnt/oldsys; then mount each new / old partition, and do `cp -a /mnt/oldsys/* /mnt/newsys/` |
| 23:59.43 | citral | annoying... big memory footprint :) |
| 23:59.55 | peng | I need to pitch the mp3 of 12 semitones to make them play correctly any clue? |
| 23:59.56 | corp-mule | dude. Verizon is installing fiber to my apartment! |
